human
When you consider the percentage of the army so engaged, you can't feel as happy about it as you'd like to. We ought all to be digging Panama canals!
gpt
Heavens, Wayne--we don't need them.
human
Plenty of things we do need.
gpt
Well I don't think you're fair to the army, Wayne. You're not looking into it--deeply enough. You're doing just as much as Fred, for in safeguarding the country you permit this constructive work to go on. As to our formalities--they have run off into absurdity at some points, but it was a real spirit created those very forms.
human
True. And now the spirit's dead and the form's left--and what's so absurd as a form that rattles dead bones?
gpt
Father didn't feel as you do, Wayne.
human
He had no cause to. He was needed. But we don't need the army on the frontier now. That's _done_. And we do need the forest service--the thing to build up. There's no use harking back to traditions. The world moves on too fast for that. Question is--not what did you do yesterday--but what good are you to-day--what are you worth to-morrow? Oh, I'm not condemning the army half so much as I'm sympathizing with it, he laughed.
gpt
It's full of live men who want to be doing something--instead of being compelled to argue that they're some good. They get very tired saying they're useful. They'd like to make it self-evident.
human
Well, perhaps we'll have a war with Japan,
gpt
Perhaps we will. Having an army that's spoiling for it, I don't see how we can very well miss it.
human
But if we had no army we certainly should have a war.
gpt
Wayne, are you becoming--anti-militarist?
human
Oh, I don't know what I'm becoming. But as to myself--I do know this. There would be more satisfaction in constructive work than in work that constructs only that it may be ready to destroy. I would find it more satisfying to help give my country itself--through natural and legitimate means--than stand ready to give it some corner of some other country.
gpt
But to keep the other country from getting a corner of it?
human
Doesn't it occur to you, Katie, that as a matter of fact the other country might like a chance to develop its resources? We're like a crowd of boys with rocks in their hands and all afraid to throw down the rocks. If one did, the others might be immensely relieved. It seems rather absurd, standing there with rocks nobody wants to throw--especially when there are so many other things to be doing--and everybody saying, 'I've got to keep mine because he's got his.' Would you call that a very intelligent gang of kids? Ferguson says it's the workingmen of the world will bring about disarmament. That they're coming to feel their common cause as workers too keenly to be forced into war with each other.
gpt
That's what the man that mends the boats says, piped up Worth.
human
He says that when they're all socialists there won't be any wars--'cause nobody'll go. But Watts says that day'll never come, thank God.
gpt
Are you thanking God for yourself or for Watts, sonny? laughed his father.
human
And who, pray, is the man that mends the boats?
gpt
The man that mends the boats, father, is a man that's 'most as smart as you are.
human
It has been a long time, gravely remarked Wayne,