When Ramin moved to the record label RCA Victor he brought in Ginzler to help him reorchestrate the album version of Jule Styne's Say, Darling performed by David Wayne and Robert Morse. Apparently, Styne was so impressed by their work that he picked them for his orchestrator team on his next show Gypsy: A Musical Fable with lyricist Stephen Sondheim and a book by Arthur Laurents. The partnership continued with Ginzler finally gaining first billing on Wildcat where Lucille Ball in her only Broadway show introduced the marching-band staple "Hey Look Me Over" in the 1960 season.
