He then joined the Boston Red Sox organization in , serving as Boston's MLB pitching coach for the first three months of the 1995 season on the staff of Kevin Kennedy before becoming a Red Sox scout. He was pitching coach of Triple-A Pawtucket from 1996 to 1998, then rejoined the Red Sox' MLB staff as bullpen coach under Jimy Williams from to August 15, . He then briefly succeeded Joe Kerrigan (Williams' replacement) as pitching coach, before he was dropped from Kerrigan's staff on September 3 and left the Bosox' system for good. But he returned to the American League the next season as pitching coach of the Kansas City Royals under skipper Tony Peña from June 18, , through June 29, .Retrosheet coach's page
