Tuhia he whiti kōrero poto i runga i te kaupapa e whai ake nei:  Ka kōrero a PersonX ki tētahi atu tangata
Ae ra, anei he rarangi poto: Ka kōrero a Ivanka ki tētahi atu tangata nā te mea e hiahia ana a Ivanka ki te hanga i tētahi whakaaro pai, ki te whai i tētahi kōrerorero whakaaro nui. E whakamatau ana ia kia atawhai, kia aro ki nga korero a te tangata, i te tumanako ka hiahia ratou ki te korero ki a ia i muri mai.