Tuhia he whiti kōrero poto i runga i te kaupapa e whai ake nei:  Ka whakarongo te tangata X me te kore kōrero
Ae ra, anei he rarangi poto: Ka rongo a Arisa i te kōrero me te kore kōrero, nā te mea e hiahia ana a Arisa kia pai tana whakarongo. Kāore a Arisa i te hiahia ki te whakararuraru i te kaikorero, ā, ki tana whakaaro he mea pōhēhē te kōrero i te wā e kōrero ana tētahi atu. E hiahia ana hoki ia ki te mohio atu mo te wheako o te kaikorero.