Tuhia he whiti kōrero poto i runga i te kaupapa e whai ake nei:  Kāore i te mōhio a PersonX he aha te kōrero a PersonY
Ae ra, anei he rarangi poto: Kāore a Mei i te mōhio he aha te kōrero a Jakobi i a ia e kī ana kua rere atu tōna ngeru. Ka tono a May ki a Jakobi kia whakamarama i te mea i tupu, ka kii a Jakobi ki a ia kua rere atu tana ngeru i te whare i tenei ata kaore ano kia hoki mai.