Tuhia he whiti kōrero poto i runga i te kaupapa e whai ake nei:  Ka whakatata atu te tangata X ki tētahi tangata kē
Ae ra, anei he rarangi poto: Ka whakatata atu a Norberto ki tētahi tangata kē. Inaianei, e hiahia ana a Norberto ki te kōrero ki te tangata kē e pā ana ki to rātau rā. I te mea kāore te tangata kē i te āhua he tino aro, ka hoki whakamuri a Norberto.