Tuhia he whiti kōrero poto i runga i te kaupapa e whai ake nei:  Ka whakatau a PersonX kia kōrero a PersonY
Ae ra, anei he rarangi poto: Ka whakatau a Manning kia korero a Ervin na te mea e hiahia ana a Manning ki te whakarongo ki te whakaaro o Ervin mo te ahuatanga. Ka taea e Ervin te whakarato i ētahi mōhiohio nui e pā ana ki te mea e tupu ana, ā, e mauruuru ana a Manning mō te tāuru.