Tuhia he whiti kōrero poto i runga i te kaupapa e whai ake nei:  Kāore te tangata X i te mōhio ki te mea e kōrero ana te tangata Y
Ae ra, anei he rarangi poto: Kāore a Sury i te mōhio he aha te kōrero a Woodrow. I piko ia ki roto, e ngana ana ki te hopu i tetahi kupu matua e taea hoatu ia he tohu, engari ko te reira katoa mo te kore. I te nui o te riri, ka whakarere a Sury, a ka ui ki a Woodrow he aha tana i korero ai.