Tuhia he whiti kōrero poto i runga i te kaupapa e whai ake nei:  E whakaute ana a PersonX ki te whakaaro o tētahi
Ae ra, anei he rarangi poto: He pai tonu a Barbara ki te whakarongo ki te whakaaro o tētahi, me te whakaute i ā rātou kōrero. Kaore ia e whakawa i tetahi i runga i o raatau whakapono, whakaaro ranei, a he pai tonu ia ki te korerorero tuwhera mo tetahi kaupapa.