Whakarāpopototia te tuhinga:  I tēnei wiki i miharo te ao ki te kōrero o tētahi kaumātua Tiamana e hapū ana i ngā whā i te 65 o ōna tau. Ko Annegret Raunigk, no Berlin, he whaea kē ia mo te 13 o nga tamariki, engari i whakatau ia ki te whakarahi ake i tana whanau i muri i tana tamaiti iti rawa i mea ki a ia: 'E hiahia ana ahau ki te whai teina iti, tuahine ranei.' Ko tētahi tangata e mātau pai ana ki te tūnga o Annegret, ko te whaea pakeke o Peretana, ko Sue Tollefsen, no Essex. Panuku ki raro mō te ataata. Ko Sue Tollefsen i tēnei ata o tēnei rā i whakakitea ai e ia he pēhea te āhua o te noho hei whaea ki tētahi tamaiti e whitu tau te pakeke i a ia e 64 nei ona tau. I whanau tana tamaiti kotahi, a Freya, i te tau 2008 i te 57 o ona tau. Inaianei, e whitu, kua patai a Freya ki tona whaea mena ka taea e ia he tuakana, he tuahine ranei, na te mea, i whakaatu a Sue i whakaaro ia. 'I haere a Freya i roto i te wa e hiahia ana ki te teina, a ka titiro ahau ki te maimoatanga waipiro ki te whai i tetahi atu tamaiti, engari no te mea kua whai take hauora ahau i whakatau ahau ki te kore e akiaki i taku waimarie,' ka mea ia i tenei ata. I kii te kaiako hiahia motuhake kua reti 'i tetahi ara' e whakaaro ana ia he 'whaiaro' a Annegret mo te whai tamariki maha i tana tau - ahakoa te waiho i te whaea tae noa ki te mutunga o te ao. Ka mea ia: 'Kua 13 nga tamariki a tana wahine, i taku keehi kaore au i whai. Engari ki te mea kua whakaaroaro ia ki taua mea, ā, kua whakataurite i te pai, i te kino, ā, ka mea, "ko te mea tika tēnei mōku", ko tana whakatau tērā. E kore ahau e noho ki te whakawa i tetahi atu.' I tenei wa e 64 ona tau, ka kii a Sue ki nga kaiwhakaari a Phillip Schofield raua ko Amanda Holden kaore ia i whakaaro ki te whakarere i te matua i tenei wa. Ko Sue, maui, i hapū i te whakawhetai ki te IVF i a ia e 57. Ko Annegret Raunigk, e tika ana, e tatari ana ki te 65 tau. Engari i muri i te matenga o tana papa, ka noho ia hei kaitiaki mo tana whaea rawakore tae noa ki tona matenga i te tau 2002, i a ia e mahi ana i tana mahi uaua. 'I whai atu au i ētahi atu mea i roto i tōku ora, i te tiaki i tōku māmā, i te whai i tētahi mahi kawenga, kāore au i whakaaro ka taea e au te noho hei māmā i taua wā,' i whakamārama ia. 'I te wā e taitamariki ana ahau, i tumanako tonu ahau kia whai tamariki ahau, engari i whakaaro ahau kua ngaro ahau i te kaipuke.' Kātahi ka tūtaki a Sue ki a Nick, he kaiwhakahaere whare putunga, i te wā...
Ko te kaumātua Tiamana e hapū ana i te whā o ōna tau i te 65 o ōna tau. E whakaaro ana a Sue Tollefsen, te whaea pakeke o Ingarangi, he 'whaiaro' te whakatau I whanau tana tamahine a Freya, e whitu nei ona tau, i a ia e 57 ana. E pouri ana kāore pea ia i te nui o te wā ki tana tamahine.