Tuhia he whakamāramatanga mō tēnei wāhanga - I te tau 1847, ka heke atu a Herzen me tana wahine, whaea me ngā tamariki, ki Itari, kāore anō kia hoki mai ki Rūhia. Mai i Itari, i te rongonga o te hurihanga o 1848
, ka tere ia ki Paris, kātahi ki Switzerland. I tautoko ia i nga hurihanga o te 1848, engari i tino pouri ki nga nekehanga hapori Pakeha i muri i to raatau ngoikoretanga. I whai ingoa a Hertzen hei kaituhi torangapu. Ko ana rawa i Ruhia i whakamutua na te mea i heke ia, engari ko Baron Rothschild, i whai hononga pakihi a tona whanau, i whakawhitiwhiti korero mo te tuku i nga rawa, i whakawhitihia ki a Rothschild.