I muri i te tono a Rusk, ka tutaki ano a Fomin me Scali. 1) I patai a Scali he aha i rereke ai nga reta e rua mai i a Khrushchev, a i kii a Fomin na te "kore o te whakawhitiwhiti korero". Ka whakahoki a Scali kaore i te pono te kerēme me te karanga i whakaaro ia ko te "taarua o te ripeka". I kii ia he whakaekenga i etahi haora noa atu, a i kii a Fomin e tatari ana te whakautu ki te karere a US mai i a Khrushchev i muri tata mai ka akiaki i a Scali ki te korero ki te Tari Kawanatanga kaore he whakapae i whakaarohia. I kii a Scali kaore ia i whakaaro ka whakapono tetahi ki a ia, engari i whakaae ia ki te tuku i te korero. I haere tonu nga huarahi e rua, ka tuhi a Scali i tetahi tuhinga mo te EXCOMW. I roto i te US establishment, i maarama inaianei na te mea kua kore e aro atu ki te aukati i enei reta me te tuku i a Khrushchev ki te mahi whakamataku i raro i te "whakaaro kino". 2) I
Ka whakarerekē a Khrushchev i tana ara i roto i ngā haora e whai ake nei