Tuhia he whiti kōrero poto i runga i te kaupapa e whai ake nei:  Ka tutaki te tangata X ki te tangata Y i te toa kawhe
Ae ra, anei he rarangi poto: Ka tutaki a Karen ki te tangata i roto i te toa kawhe. Ka kōrero a Karen rāua ko PersonY mō te wā roa e pā ana ki tō rāua aroha tahi ki ngā pukapuka. Ka whakawhitiwhitia e rātau ngā tūtohu pukapuka, ā, ka whakaae rātau kia hui anō rātau ki te matapaki atu.