e's selection of logical
    and semiotic systems.

JC: I am sympathetic to this view, inasmuch as I understand it.
    We are certainly getting more clear about where we differ,
    which is progress.  I still regard logic as transcendent,
    and would be very reluctant to give this up.

JA: I do not use the word &quot;transcendent&quot; in this context very much,
    but that is mostly because of conflicting claims from too many
    different directions.  But I think that a proper understanding
    of &q