working directly or
      indirectly with Alan Kay, so it just blew my mind that he was
      interested in it. And he's very supportive.
    </p>

    <p>
      Here's the long term goal: There's a game, and there's a robot or a
      monster. You double click on a monster, and it should open up a window
      that has a visual program that controls how it behaves.
    </p>

    <p>
      This has already been done in the 80's on the Apple ][, and it was a
      game called 
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