. "There's still so, so much to do around scalability, around being able to really fully adopt a cloud native solution."</p>

<p>Of course, it all starts with Kubernetes. With that technology, Jeppson's team has built a platform that allows Nav to scale, and that "has brought so much value to Nav by allowing all of these new freedoms that we had just never had before," he says.</p>

<p>Conversations about new products used to be bogged down by the fact they'd have to wait six months to get an environment se