 Pat and Matthew saying they think people should have a '4-D'
&gt;view. in both cases, you leave the Endurantist view out in the cold. I agree

&gt;this makes life simpler for you (and me), but it seems a bit hard on the
&gt;Endurantist.

The view that the statue and the clay are the "same thing"
can be safely held in either a 3-D or a 4-D poin of view.
I really don't know how to classify Nicola's position,
since it seems to be inconsistent with the way ordinary
human beings talk, with the way that scientis