think of things such as groups (football teams, and so on) 
&gt; as sets. Some
&gt; people have suggested this - and ordinary language (for what 
&gt; it is worth) at
&gt; least supports the view that they have a location ("the 
&gt; English football
&gt; team was in Hungary last week"). So treating sets as abstract 
&gt; seems to me a
&gt; choice which blocks off the possibility of treating 'physical 
&gt; groups' as
&gt; sets.

MW: Well I certainly don't see the England Football team as a set. I would
see