tuff,
&gt;     he is presenting the existing stuff that is (or should 
&gt; be) relevant.
&gt;     Even I have got that far.
&gt; 
&gt; JS: If members want to do research, I've a couple times 
&gt; offered to help set up
&gt;     an IEEE task force, which could become an 'IEEE Technical 
&gt; Committee'.
&gt;     Nobody showed interest.
&gt; 
&gt; MW: I don't think more than one show would really help.
&gt; 
&gt; JA: In these regards, I request that you quit picking on me --
&gt;     just because you can --