 
&gt; &gt;MW: Doing this would be just silly, but it isn't what Pat 
&gt; has suggested.
&gt; 
&gt; I agree that this is not what Pat suggested.  For many kinds
&gt; relations, however, such a translation might be very useful,
&gt; but the point is that no such decomposition for "give" can
&gt; capture the full meaning.

MW: Yes. The examples I can think of where this does work is where 
say x already stands for the activity, and y and z are participants
in the activity. However, in this case part3(y,z) wo