und of the nature of a "form"
     or a relational structure?  What else could
     it be like?

JA:  I am tempted to agree, and I probably would if I could use the
     words "form" and "relational structure" in the ways that I am
     already used to, but I cannot be sure yet of the way that you
     may intend them, so I must hesitate until I know your meaning.

JM:  my meaning would be, a collection of points and relations
     between these points so that no point is left alone.

     | "... the phaner