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<h4 id="hahahugoshortcode-s39-hbhb"><a href="https://anchor.fm/cloudfamily/episodes/Episode-12---The-one-with-Mike-Pfeiffer-enpkk7" target="_blank">Episode 12 - Richard and Gregor Talk to Mike Pfeiffer</a></h4>
<p>This week we chat to Mike Pfeiffer who is an entrepreneur, advisor, and mentor for people working with cloud-native technologies and lives in Phoenix Arizona.</p>
<p>In this episode we talk to Mike about his career at both Amazon and Microsoft, cloudskills.io, writing books, burn