hey *endure*
&gt;&gt; through time -- where they are wholly present (whatever that means)
&gt;&gt; at any time at which they are present.  This is the *only* question
&gt;&gt; that the E and P words deal with.  It seems to me that this is a
&gt;&gt; legitimate question -- even if we think the answer is obviously
&gt;&gt; that objects *perdure* -- getting agreement on this would be
&gt;&gt; a substantial step forward.

Jon Awbrey wrote:

&gt;I am wondering about the notions
&gt;of "explanation" and "legitima