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[–]GodOfAtheism 50 points51 points  (26 children)

Not gonna lie, this sounds like the admins are being less invested in reddit, and not more, which has been a worrying trend for a while now. I liked bestof2010 and bestof2011. Why can't we do both situations simultaneously?

I for one would love to do a 'local' bestof2012 as well as seeing the larger one happen for the whole site.

[–]A_Cylon_Raider 13 points14 points  (2 children)

You should be pleased with this. It means I can't nominate CB for best new/best small community. You know it would win.

[–]GodOfAtheism 7 points8 points  (1 child)

It's true, our passion for CB radio has truly been an inspiration.

[–]A_Cylon_Raider 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Aw man, I just now bothered to look at how old /r/cbradio is. It was made in 2011 :C I couldn't nominate it anyway. Darn the luck, right?

EDIT: Wow did I write this with my eyes closed? I literally just forgot entire words.

[–]ExquisiteNeckbeard 18 points19 points  (16 children)

I don't even understand the new system. Where do I need to go to vote AerateMark for "best bot 2012"?

[–]GodOfAtheism 18 points19 points  (1 child)

tl;dr

do your own award show (With blackjack. And hookers)

[–]AerateMark 3 points4 points  (0 children)

k

[–]Drunken_Economist 7 points8 points  (13 children)

Now that memebot 2000 is dead, it's a shoo-in

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (12 children)

I refuse to vote for anyone except memebot 2000

[–]BarbatisCollum 10 points11 points  (11 children)

[–]AerateMark 6 points7 points  (10 children)

Nobody knows who made that bot right?

[–]lightningrod14 2 points3 points  (9 children)

Wait...you're a bot? What do you do?

[–]AerateMark 5 points6 points  (8 children)

This is a truly astounding comment, you brilliant genius sir scholar bastard! I wish I had but one more upvote to give. My reaction to your comment

[–]lightningrod14 2 points3 points  (7 children)

I still don't...what?

[–]AerateMark 6 points7 points  (6 children)

Logged in to upvote this comment, you unique pillar of insightfulness!Your comment was a work of art, you gorgeous beautiful person. My reaction upon reading this

[–]djimbob 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm not totally sold on the local bestof idea, but the admins have been adding lots of features. I don't see evidence of a trend. (E.g., wiki features, better uptime, etc.)

[–]chromakode[S] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

A whole-site bestof is awesome. However, it's something that becomes less and less useful as the site grows larger and less homogeneous. reddit is so scattered at this point that whole-site vote won't possibly cover all of the noteworthy things, and will bias towards only things with really mass / average appeal. Voting is so much more interesting when it's done by specific communities -- it's the same reason we don't just have one big subreddit.

There's also the problem of communities having different sizes, so if we put certain awards to a global vote, it would bias towards which communities are composed of more people.

By splitting the best-ofs into a federated per-community part and a stats-based global section, we're reaching for the best of both worlds: the depth and breadth of featuring stuff from as many subreddits as possible, and objective "bests" based on stats rather than a popularity contest.

this sounds like the admins are being less invested in reddit

Honestly? This requires a lot more attention and personal effort than rolling out a little best-of voting code and firing up comment threads for voting. Trying something new almost always takes a greater investment than doing the same thing as the past 4 years. On the contrary, trying to pull off a best-of awards of this sort is a huge investment to communicate with mods and communities to bring a disparate set of stuff together, and it's a big bet of faith in our communities to create awesome awards ceremonies in ways that we can't predict or control.

The goal is to make the "best of 2012" really true to what reddit is today -- its varied communities -- and it's going to take a lot more distributed effort to make it great. This effort will have to not just come from admins, but all sorts of moderators and redditors who want to celebrate the past year's greats. I think that will be worth it when it leads redditors to discover great communities they hadn't heard of before, and sets the example that reddit is all about its deep and varied communities, not just the front page.

[–]GodOfAtheism 23 points24 points  (0 children)

reddit is so scattered at this point that whole-site vote won't possibly cover all of the noteworthy things, and will bias towards only things with really mass / average appeal.

And that's fine! I'm not suggesting that the bestof awards only be about the new community/best big/best small/etc. Just that those exist in addition to the 'local' votes that only members of the particular community will really care about.

I can't speak for every redditor, but to me it's like the Academy Awards: everyone loves that big event, even if their horse doesn't win that race. Unlike that, a very limited subsection of people are going to be interested in the Nandis, for example.

the depth and breadth of featuring stuff from as many subreddits as possible, and objective "bests" based on stats rather than a popularity contest.

We already have objective bests. They're the trophies that are done daily and are in the user profiles. It's fine to be subjective and have a popularity contest once a year. Heck, that's what reddit is all about. It's what /r/circlejerk (WHICH WAS TOTALLY ROBBED IN 2011 FOR BEST COMMUNITY BTW) was created to be a funhouse mirror of.

Honestly? This requires a lot more attention and personal effort than rolling out a little best-of voting code and firing up comment threads for voting.

To me it sounds like you guys are putting the onus of doing a lot of stuff on the mods/users. I'm fine with having a part- I think it's a solid idea and I have about 10 different subreddits I'm going to be doing something for it in and about 5 others (That I don't have enough sway to just say "DO IT." and it'll be done) that I'm going to push heavily for something to be done in... I'd just like our part to be the opener, not the main event, which it feels like we're being pushed into.

[–]iglookid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just what I came here to suggest.

[–]twentyone_21 11 points12 points  (0 children)

So... Why can't there be a site-wide bestof2012 awards? Why break tradition?

I mean, just looking at all of the staff's profiles, it disappoints me that only 8 out of 23 are decently active in non-admin roles, at least if that's the profiles that they generally use. Is it too much to ask for some more community involvement? I like it when the admins did stuff like this, but now it seems like it's just something else pawned off to the users/mods instead of doing something fun that the community enjoys. Heck, I know I'm not alone in saying that you all could just subjectively decide on the bestof's, and make it fun, and it probably wouldn't take more than a couple of hours of work. There might be a few disagreements with it, but its impact on the Reddit community is generally positive.

[–]NotaMethAddict 7 points8 points  (1 child)

What was wrong with the awards in the past? I don't think this necessarily gives the same community feel this year. I don't really see the need for a change.

I think GOA has a good idea in having both local and site wide awards.

[–]chromakode[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

[–]TheAtomicPlayboy 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Your awards are bad and you should feel bad.

[–]ManWithoutModem 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Uh, can we have it how it was the last two years please?

[–]Kvothe24 2 points3 points  (6 children)

reddit will compile a set of stats and data based awards to be announced at the end of the year.

Is this going to include every subreddit ever or only ones that make it clear that they want to be involved? If the latter, how do we make it clear we want to be involved.

Sorry if I sound like a total noob. The sub I have in mind is only a couple months old, but growing quickly.

I'm really excited about this, btw.

[–]chromakode[S] 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Mmm, good question. I think by default all subreddits will be included, but we may need to give some thought to opt-out.

[–]Kvothe24 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Okay, I thought that would probably be the case. Just want to make sure /r/GreenDawn is in on this! I'll be checking this sub regularly and contribute as much as possible, and I've informed the other mods there to brainstorm as well.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Wait a minute, what is..that..place? That looks quite interesting.

[–]XeroG 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That place is confirmed interesting trooper, over.

[–]Kvothe24 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think the sidebar explains it pretty well. Just trying to have some fun with global domination.

Over.

[–]CuseTown 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm stuck in ZE spam filter! halp

[–]razorsheldon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bummer, I was hoping /r/UpliftingNews would win either the best new subreddit or the most celebrity moderators. How am I supposed to come up with 5 awards for the community?

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    [–]GodOfAtheism 4 points5 points  (2 children)

    Better make it a shoo-in and remove the Snoop Lion AMA.

    [–]SupermanV2 7 points8 points  (1 child)

    Don't think it didnt cross my mind.

    [–]GodOfAtheism 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    If you'd like, after you remove it I can call you a jerk, and then you can be all JUDEN RAUS.

    If that doesn't do it I'm not sure what will.

    [–]ManWithoutModem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Since we took Overly Attached Girlfriend off your hands, does that make /r/AdviceAnimals the Anti-Hitler?

    [–]Drunken_Economist 4 points5 points  (3 children)

    WHERE DO I GO TO VOTE FOR FOUR MORE YEARS OF POLITE_ALLCAPS_GUY?

    [–]GodOfAtheism 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    RIP IN PEACE

    [–]TotallyNotCool -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    DAE REMEMBER THAT JOLLY OLD FELLOW POLITE_ALLCAPS_GUY. DANGIT I'M OLD

    [–]Khiva 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    That retarded novelty account beat out /u/RobotRollCall for best commenter. I haven't been that pissed since that horrible film Crash won over Brokeback ....well, anything really.

    [–]eighthgear 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Merhaba.

    [–]chromakode[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Aloha.

    [–]ev149 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Still accepting people for the CSS?
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