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(The Hollywood Reporter)   "Radio is far from dead," says someone with absolutely no reason to ever pump up the business of radio   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line 63
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2012-08-23 02:09:01 PM
Talk radio may survive in the top 3-4 markets for some time, but beyond that there is absolutely nothing.  Its dead, Jim.
 
Sattelite radio is where its at.  And compared to cable/DirecTV/Dish... they don't and don't have to carry local stations.
 
(Which is something I find strange... why was cable forced to do so, but not sattelite radio?  Not that I care one way or the other.)
 
2012-08-23 02:30:19 PM

downstairs: Talk radio may survive in the top 3-4 markets for some time, but beyond that there is absolutely nothing. Its dead, Jim


All I hear is 'Radio ga ga, radio goo goo...'
 
2012-08-23 02:35:10 PM
People are definitely spending less time with the radio, especially younger people, but the number of people age 12 and over listening to AM/FM for some time during the week is still up over 90% of the population. The actual number of listeners has remained pretty much static for a decade with some demos falling slightly and others, like the Hispanic market, increasing.
 
2012-08-23 02:37:50 PM

Oh boy.. Ryan Seacrest is doing the 100% fake (the FCC says you can't do this) War of the Roses bit.. the same bit sold to every freaking UNFUNNY/UNINTERESTING whacky morning zoo radio show across the US. Oh, did you know that some companies sell bits to FM radio shows? Safe, FCC-approved HORSESHIAT. Yes they do..and Opie and Anthony have a whole month where they ruin those stupid radio shows that do this garbage repeated bit nonsense.
What's next, the battles of the sexes trivia contest? boo.

Let me also add that every show has that "come on now boys" female to keep the boys in line!! *whacky bells and lasers sound*

The FCC ruined the morning "zoo" shows.. the repeated songs ruined music.. unwillingness to try new music didn't help..and the abundance of commercials surely didnt help either.
-------------------------

SiriusXM = win.
 
2012-08-23 02:49:17 PM
Dr.Knockboots:
The FCC ruined the morning "zoo" shows..

Nah.  Good comedy can play within the rules.  Not that I'm a fan of the FCC, because I believe people should be free to say pretty much whatever they want on the air... but the point still stands.
 
However, if morning zoo programs were allowed to do whatever they want, it would be worse (if thats even possible).  Like when a kid first learns to swear.
 
Butthead voice:  "Huh. Huh. Huh.  You said penis.  That's cool."
 
2012-08-23 04:21:42 PM

gopher321: downstairs: Talk radio may survive in the top 3-4 markets for some time, but beyond that there is absolutely nothing. Its dead, Jim

All I hear is 'Radio ga ga, radio goo goo...'


thederosh.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-23 04:32:23 PM
Radio will never be dead as long as you like a constant rotation of The Eagles, Steve Miller Band, Boston, OZZY/Crazy Train and ZZ Top til you're ready to croak.
 
2012-08-23 04:37:40 PM
The problem with terrestrial radio is due to the fact a few select companies own almost all of the radio stations in the country. *COUGH*clearchannel*COUGH*

They don't care that you like the music they play, just that you don't hate it enough to change the channel.
 
2012-08-23 04:39:15 PM
they just try to anesthetize the way that you feel
 
2012-08-23 04:47:09 PM
What really grinds my gears is during the "all request hour" when jackholes call in to request the same songs that are already in rotation and get played every hour anyway. WTF?!?

That, and Shinedown. Fark those guys.
 
2012-08-23 04:52:39 PM
My local radio station has broken out from the garbage that is top 40 radio. Yeah they play 90s music, specifically the same 40 songs by the same 20 bands, over and over and over. Can you believe it?

So yeah, I listen to NPR and classical music.
 
2012-08-23 04:56:21 PM
There's a couple of college based radio stations in my area. Other than that, radio is dead, dead, deadski.
 
2012-08-23 04:56:58 PM
Terrestrial radio is dead. Even this article is basically saying "Hey, we put a lot of our stuff on the internet now. We're doing great!" The internet has replaced everything that radio can do. There are podcasts of every conceivable type and many are better than talk radio. Pandora and other streaming music services are more likely to play interesting music and play things you want to hear. Radio is making buggy whips and this guy is talking about how the business is doing great because now they also make tires.
 
2012-08-23 04:58:47 PM

bdub77: My local radio station has broken out from the garbage that is top 40 radio. Yeah they play 90s music, specifically the same 40 songs by the same 20 bands, over and over and over. Can you believe it?

So yeah, I listen to NPR and classical music.


babysealclubber: *COUGH*clearchannel*COUGH*

They don't care that you like the music they play, just that you don't hate it enough to change the channel.


All of this. The only saving grace was listening to the local morning DJs. Then ClearChannel nuked all of them for regional Weenie and the Nard djs. Fark 'em.
 
2012-08-23 05:01:53 PM
The Onion pretty much summed that up, and this was from 10 years ago:

Link
 
2012-08-23 05:12:07 PM
Agreed, now I only watch TV when I drive to work..
 
2012-08-23 05:18:20 PM

Subdue their bellies: What really grinds my gears is during the "all request hour" when jackholes call in to request the same songs that are already in rotation and get played every hour anyway. WTF?!?

That, and Shinedown. Fark those guys.


Here's a breakdown of what I get off the request lines:
- 5% off format, such as a Bieber request at a classic rock station.
- 10% cool deep cuts that we should be playing.
- 85% shiat that we bang the hell out of day in and day out.

/hasn't changed at all in 20 years.
 
2012-08-23 05:30:04 PM
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

i780.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-23 05:30:35 PM
I'll keep listening to radio on a daily basis - as long as my 20 year old clock radio keeps working. When it dies, no more radio.

/that morning shot of annoying pop music wakes me up right away
 
2012-08-23 05:33:04 PM
cirby


I got you babe

/just my opinion, butt f*ck the radio
 
2012-08-23 05:34:45 PM

SpikeStrip: yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

[i780.photobucket.com image 720x481]


I can't remember that movie to well, but it makes me think to ask "Did he go full retard?"
 
2012-08-23 05:39:51 PM
Lately I've been hoping satellite radio dies too. They had a chance to do something different but they did it exactly the same, except for commercials. Farking DJs. Why do you need them? There's a little display that tells you the name of the song and who played it. Shut up and play the music!

Also, there are 100 channels, but each one plays only 20 songs over and over.

I guess it's a little better than regular radio, but the lack of imagination the put into it is disappointing.

NPR and CDs for me.
 
2012-08-23 05:56:07 PM

LDM90: Lately I've been hoping satellite radio dies too. They had a chance to do something different but they did it exactly the same, except for commercials. Farking DJs. Why do you need them? There's a little display that tells you the name of the song and who played it. Shut up and play the music!

Also, there are 100 channels, but each one plays only 20 songs over and over.

I guess it's a little better than regular radio, but the lack of imagination the put into it is disappointing.

NPR and CDs for me.


DJs used correctly can be as important as the music
 
2012-08-23 06:00:11 PM

babysealclubber: LDM90: Lately I've been hoping satellite radio dies too. They had a chance to do something different but they did it exactly the same, except for commercials. Farking DJs. Why do you need them? There's a little display that tells you the name of the song and who played it. Shut up and play the music!

Also, there are 100 channels, but each one plays only 20 songs over and over.

I guess it's a little better than regular radio, but the lack of imagination the put into it is disappointing.

NPR and CDs for me.

DJs used correctly can be as important as the music


Ok, not as important, but can enhance the listening experience
 
2012-08-23 06:06:25 PM
Screw clearchannel. It's NPR or talk radio. Or the local college stations.
 
2012-08-23 06:09:38 PM
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www.georgetowner.com
 
2012-08-23 06:19:34 PM
"Radio is far from dead,"

I agree, it is far from dead, it died more than 20 years ago. Now its just a memory, a pile of dust in a box.
 
2012-08-23 06:34:49 PM

LDM90: Lately I've been hoping satellite radio dies too. They had a chance to do something different but they did it exactly the same, except for commercials. Farking DJs. Why do you need them? There's a little display that tells you the name of the song and who played it. Shut up and play the music!

Also, there are 100 channels, but each one plays only 20 songs over and over.

I guess it's a little better than regular radio, but the lack of imagination the put into it is disappointing.

NPR and CDs for me.



I don't listen to the music stations on SiriusXM, but I'm happy they have the comedy channels (uncensored, to boot).   For most of the day, they play nothing but 5-6 minute bits of stand-up acts.  Very few shows, very little junk.
 
2012-08-23 06:43:03 PM

babysealclubber: LDM90: Lately I've been hoping satellite radio dies too. They had a chance to do something different but they did it exactly the same, except for commercials. Farking DJs. Why do you need them? There's a little display that tells you the name of the song and who played it. Shut up and play the music!

Also, there are 100 channels, but each one plays only 20 songs over and over.

I guess it's a little better than regular radio, but the lack of imagination the put into it is disappointing.

NPR and CDs for me.

DJs used correctly can be as important as the music

 
2012-08-23 06:44:31 PM

invictus2: babysealclubber: LDM90: Lately I've been hoping satellite radio dies too. They had a chance to do something different but they did it exactly the same, except for commercials. Farking DJs. Why do you need them? There's a little display that tells you the name of the song and who played it. Shut up and play the music!

Also, there are 100 channels, but each one plays only 20 songs over and over.

I guess it's a little better than regular radio, but the lack of imagination the put into it is disappointing.

NPR and CDs for me.

DJs used correctly can be as important as the music


Case in point
 
2012-08-23 07:04:08 PM
DJs provide a connection for the listener to the community, assuming you're listening to a local station. I find it laughable when people say terrestrial radio is dead. Quite the opposite. Print media on the other hand...
 
2012-08-23 07:39:51 PM
You wanna fix radio?

* Nuke Clear Channel from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
* Variety. Play something different every once in awhile, for pity's sake.
* Go back to regulating the number of stations one company can own in one market (see #1).
* DJ's who are actually witty, funny, and smart.
* Stick nutjob political broadcasters (either left or right wing) back on AM. FM is for music, damnit.

I'd have more ideas but I'm off to listen to some CDs...
 
2012-08-23 07:44:25 PM

invictus2: invictus2: babysealclubber: LDM90: Lately I've been hoping satellite radio dies too. They had a chance to do something different but they did it exactly the same, except for commercials. Farking DJs. Why do you need them? There's a little display that tells you the name of the song and who played it. Shut up and play the music!

Also, there are 100 channels, but each one plays only 20 songs over and over.

I guess it's a little better than regular radio, but the lack of imagination the put into it is disappointing.

NPR and CDs for me.

DJs used correctly can be as important as the music

Case in point


After listening to that, I feel like making love
 
2012-08-23 08:06:42 PM
Internet killed the video star...

wait, what?
 
2012-08-23 08:10:44 PM
Clear channel killed radio. Well, that is when i left for my ipod.
 
2012-08-23 08:42:51 PM
It may not be dead, but it's hurt really bad. I'm not talking medicine cabinet hurt, I'm talking emergency room hurt. The kind of hurt that even if you don't die from it, you're never gonna be the same again.
 
2012-08-23 09:09:02 PM
Local local local that is what will save radio. I want to know about traffic, wx etc. unfortunately every time I turn on the radio it's commercials. I know it's a necessary evil being a former dj but god it's annoying.
I gotta say, I still miss it though but I knew it was dying when CC did the whole "spoke and hub" thing. My ex hubs predicted Internet radio in cars 7 years ago and here it is.
Loosen up the rotation, keep it local, try to limit the ads and you may bring people back.
 
2012-08-23 09:12:02 PM

LDM90: Lately I've been hoping satellite radio dies too. They had a chance to do something different but they did it exactly the same, except for commercials. Farking DJs. Why do you need them? There's a little display that tells you the name of the song and who played it. Shut up and play the music!

Also, there are 100 channels, but each one plays only 20 songs over and over.

I guess it's a little better than regular radio, but the lack of imagination the put into it is disappointing.



It wasn't always that way. I've been a Satellite radio subscriber for 7 years and listen mostly to the talk (O&A and Howard) and news stations now. They got rid of a lot of their niche programming channels (Punk, etc) and have homogenized the remaining stations. 

/Seriously, how many times a day does 80s/First Wave have to play either Hungry Like the Wolf or No One is to Blame?
 
2012-08-23 09:13:35 PM

herdgirl72: Local local local that is what will save radio. I want to know about traffic, wx etc. unfortunately every time I turn on the radio it's commercials. I know it's a necessary evil being a former dj but god it's annoying.
I gotta say, I still miss it though but I knew it was dying when CC did the whole "spoke and hub" thing. My ex hubs predicted Internet radio in cars 7 years ago and here it is.
Loosen up the rotation, keep it local, try to limit the ads and you may bring people back.


Never heard the 'spoke-and-hub' analogy before. Good one.

//almost 30 years in the biz. Got out for good in fall '08.
 
2012-08-23 09:30:16 PM
Of course, radio really does bring me lots of music and stuff...

...because radio waves feed my phone. Pandora, Slacker, GotRadio, SomaFM...

/narrowcast instead of broadcast
 
2012-08-23 09:50:46 PM
This guy has been in radio all his life, obviously, because he still suffers from the effects of the kool aid.

According to Arbitron, 92% of people listen to radio OK, let's dissect this first. #1 Arbitron is an absolute bullshiat research company. Their radio diary methodology is arbitrary (hence the company name) at best. They get all the diaries back and take the "real" data and extrapolate it the way they THINK the audience meant to give it to them. Far from scientific. I know this because the station manager where I worked in the 90s figured out a way to job the system and propelled the AM talk station I worked at to #1 over the two dominant black stations... and this was in heavy African American market, so you know the black stations had FAR more listeners. #2 radio people fail to qualify their research... he is probably quoting the cume for stations over a month.. meaning people who tune in ONCE in a month are included in that 92%. The percentage of people who tune in to terrestrial radio regularly is under 20% of the population

CBS Radio's WBZ-FM in Boston and WXYT-FM in Detroit are both No. 1 with men 18 to 34 in morning drive. This doesn't mean SHIAT. Wow, they are both #1. Well guess what, they could be #1 with exactly 11 men 18-34 listening and the rest of the stations have none. That's why ranking and share don't mean DICK! Give me listeners in thousands, please... not share. Your AQH (average quarter hour), not your cume (cumulative audience, M-Su, 6A-Midnight). I saw the AQH for radio stations in my current market and the highest station had 9,000 listeners in the top demo. The TV station I worked for had three times that audience during 330AM test patterns.

Radio execs just don't get it.. they stopped getting it years ago when Clear Channel, CBS and Cox started buying up mega blocks of stations and took everything corporate.
 
2012-08-23 10:11:48 PM

henryhill: "Radio is far from dead,"

I agree, it is far from dead, it died more than 20 years ago. Now its just a memory, a pile of dust in a box.


Yup. What you said.

Funniest thing on the radio: The Emergency Broadcast System.
 
2012-08-23 10:33:08 PM
Not Sports radio
 
2012-08-23 10:36:47 PM
That article felt like an ad.

WKRP predicted CC many years ago.
 
2012-08-23 10:39:27 PM
i8.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-23 10:56:11 PM
I work in radio some I'm really getting a kick out of these replies...
 
2012-08-23 11:41:27 PM
And here I thought Video killed the radio star
 
2012-08-24 12:17:11 AM

Balchinian: Funniest thing on the radio: The Emergency Broadcast System.


images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-08-24 12:22:51 AM

invictus2: invictus2: babysealclubber: LDM90: Lately I've been hoping satellite radio dies too. They had a chance to do something different but they did it exactly the same, except for commercials. Farking DJs. Why do you need them? There's a little display that tells you the name of the song and who played it. Shut up and play the music!

Also, there are 100 channels, but each one plays only 20 songs over and over.

I guess it's a little better than regular radio, but the lack of imagination the put into it is disappointing.

NPR and CDs for me.

DJs used correctly can be as important as the music

Case in point


I love listening to BBC 6 Music (via my desktop widget). No commercials, plenty of variety, and they are 6 hours ahead. Plus the DJs really like and know music.
 
2012-08-24 01:26:19 AM

HempHead: invictus2: invictus2: babysealclubber: LDM90: Lately I've been hoping satellite radio dies too. They had a chance to do something different but they did it exactly the same, except for commercials. Farking DJs. Why do you need them? There's a little display that tells you the name of the song and who played it. Shut up and play the music!

Also, there are 100 channels, but each one plays only 20 songs over and over.

I guess it's a little better than regular radio, but the lack of imagination the put into it is disappointing.

NPR and CDs for me.

DJs used correctly can be as important as the music

Case in point

I love listening to BBC 6 Music (via my desktop widget). No commercials, plenty of variety, and they are 6 hours ahead. Plus the DJs really like and know music.


THIS. and they get bored enough at night to take my requests.
 
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