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Re: AUDITORY Digest - 22 Jun 2005 (#2005-123)



no, Kevin is right, the attachment came through _mangled_ to
the digest, totally unusable and a waste of bandwidth and
space.  I had no option but to delete the various parts it
arrrived in. a downloadable ling is much preferable.

There are 6 messages totalling 202 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Attachments
  2. attachments (5)

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Date:    Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:51:47 -0400
From:    Kevin Austin <kevin.austin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Attachments

Please don't send attachments to the list. The digest mangles them.
Today there was 14,000 lines (!! - over a million characters) of:

XlaLTZbpRduBghXGMkc7d5Chzngc5+UVo9iUfWUaRIkcahURQqqowAB2ArMo4r4uf8AIlapwBfGn=
f+lMdNbgcB4M+F2jKtHj1a8vbmGWeePbGsW3bGxUEbkY9vXKbeoj0Twd8O9G8G3d3eWd1PNJcwrC=
Vl8vAAOeNqLz9c0mxnZUgCgAoAKACgAoAACgAoAKACgAoAKACgAoAKACgAoAKACgAoAKACgAoAKA=
CgAoAKACgAoAKgAAKACgAoAKACgAoAKACgAoA5Hx0B/ZF9R/6EKqO4M8irQgKAFpiFpAApgLQBZ0=
AIbTr4jmKTA0/XAU8n2psg1NRLfZ2CDLEYGaBs8d8KcX3THNUB7XFq03RUFD6ACgAoAKACgAoAKA=
CgAoKACgAoAKACgAoAKACgAoAKACgAoAKACgAoAKACgAoAKAEZtoJxn0HrQA1UG4uSSxAHU4AGcc=
Zxnnn1oAaysj+Y3SMMvqcjn8BQA/zIygk3DYQCDng5oA4fxV4m8WWmrWOn+G9W8MhC30jK7JaKQj=
Psb1OAG4qOoyDQB0a+HdMndZ9TjS/uRuIedFKx7hg+WuMKCODjkjG5mxQBfsrW1soEtbaJYoYflR=
=46GAB14/r70A7cShgo+ZCGOOeDxzn3PY/h3AG3D+WincFzLEuSQ

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Kevin Austin



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Date:    Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:49:10 -0400
From:    Fred Herzfeld <herzfeld@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: attachments

Hi Kevin Austin and list,

I have never had any problems with attachments. Some attachments like
the papers distributed by David Janiger on the MARMAR list open by them
selves if you click on the attachment, others must first be saved to
your computer and then opened with Adobe PDF Reader (free). But please
do not tell this list or any other not to send or receive attachments.
The file you obviously could not open was in fact easily opened by
saving to memory and then opening with the Adobe Reader.

Fred
--
Fred Herzfeld, MIT '54
78 Glynn Marsh Drive #59
Brunswick, Ga.31525
USA

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Date:    Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:23:48 -0400
From:    Dan Ellis <dpwe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: attachments

I have never had any problems with attachments.

It depends whether or not you are reading the list in 'digest' mode (which is an option on your AUDITORY information page, URL in the email you received when you first subscribed). If you receive each posting as a separate message, attachments probably work fine. But if you receive the once-daily 'digest', where all messages are run together, many mail reading programs will not be able to parse them apart and pick out individual attachments, but instead show the binary-coded attachement as very large blocks of text.

For this reason, it's better to send only plain text ascii to the list,
and reference other files by including URLs if possible.  If there's a
file that you'd like to publish but you don't have a web site to put it
on, you can send it to me and I can host it on www.auditory.org.

-- DAn Ellis <dpwe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> http://www.ee.columbia.edu/~dpwe/
   Dept. of Elec. Eng., Columbia Univ., New York NY 10027 (212) 854-8928

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Date:    Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:47:00 -0500
From:    beaucham <beaucham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: attachments

I disagree. Attachments are an annoyance. I log on remotely to
a Linux machine via a terminal app and attachments invariably
cannot be read easily. Also, most attachments can be rendered
just as easily in text, avoiding the extra steps.

Jim Beauchamp
Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Urbana, Illinois USA

Original message:
From: Fred Herzfeld <herzfeld@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:         Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:49:10 -0400
To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject:      Re: attachments

Hi Kevin Austin and list,

I have never had any problems with attachments. Some attachments like
the papers distributed by David Janiger on the MARMAR list open by them
selves if you click on the attachment, others must first be saved to
your computer and then opened with Adobe PDF Reader (free). But please
do not tell this list or any other not to send or receive attachments.
The file you obviously could not open was in fact easily opened by
saving to memory and then opening with the Adobe Reader.

Fred
--
Fred Herzfeld, MIT '54
78 Glynn Marsh Drive #59
Brunswick, Ga.31525
USA

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Date:    Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:49:35 -0700
From:    Jim Stevenson <jims@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: attachments

unix mail can only mime unpack attached html with cumbersom difficulty.

Woorse, blind scientists can often not read adobe pdf at all,
and when they can, they must use Winblow$ with special programs,
not unix mail.

--

If you must quote me, please put your comments first.
I have already listened to mine.

I read email with speech.
So it is not possible to scroll past the quotes without listening to
them again,
to quickly get to the new information.


Thanks much again as always. Jim

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Date:    Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:50:37 -0700
From:    Jim Stevenson <jims@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: attachments

What was the original subject of this post?

Do you know of any way to filter email by subject when the usual subject line
contains only a digest number?

This is why it helps those of us who need to sort email at work,
to use the original subject line,
as long as it remains relevant,
instead of the digest number, which tells little.
Using digest as a subject kills my ability to sort and read by subject!

--

If you must quote me, please put your comments first.
I have already listened to mine.

I read email with speech.
So it is not possible to scroll past the quotes without listening to
them again,
to quickly get to the new information.


Thanks much again as always.


--

If you must quote me, please put your comments first.
I have already listened to mine.

I read email with speech.
So it is not possible to scroll past the quotes without listening to
them again,
to quickly get to the new information.


Thanks much again as always. Jim

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