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Harry's First Year

I am a little concerned with the level of detail contained in the section "Harry's First Year." This appears to be a pretty close to verbatim summary of one section of the first book. First, I think we have to assume that everyone visiting this site has already read the books, so a simple "retelling" of the story is not needed. Second, while I do not think this portion of the entry has crossed the line, it is getting close to being a copyright violation as currently written. For these two reasons it may be best to rewrite this section.

Wva 22:16, February 24, 2012 (UTC)


I completely agree and I'm starting to work on this page, please any member and administrators feel free to undo or warn me about illegal/unecessary changes

 Arayam Rosa (owl me!)  17:40, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

Average Number of First Year Students

Being a major Harry Potter fan and obsessed with details (my inner Author) I have noticed a huge flaw with the so called average number of first years each year.

It says, and I quote: 'On average, there are around 144 new first years attending Hogwarts each academic year.'

When on average there is only between 40 and 50 new students each year.

I base this on the fact that in the books there are 5 boys in Harry's Dorm and from Gryffindor in his classes. (Harry, Ron, Neville, Dean and Seamus) And in the girls there are also 5. (Hermione, Parvati, Lavender and two mostly unidentified girls, one is known as Fay in the movies and a game.)

In Slytherin there was Draco, Crabbe, Goyle, Theodore, Blaise, Pansy, Tracey, Daphne and Millicent,

In Ravenclaw, Terry, Michael, Anthony, Kevin, Lisa, Isobel, Morag, Padma and Sue.

In Hufflepuff, Justin, Ernie, Wayne, Zacharias, Susan, Hannah, Megan and possibly Leanne.

Unknown House, Roger Malone, Oliver Rivers, Lily Moon, Sophie Roper and Sally-Anne Perks.

If mny calculations are wrong please tell me, if they are not then this page needs someone to go through and check for other false or flawed information.

I-Angel92 (talk) 01:52, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

That's correct, there are forty students in Harry's year. However, Harry's year must be far below average (perhaps as a result of the recent war, but that would be speculation), as Rowling has stated that there are, in an average year, one thousand students at Hogwarts. Forty times seven is nowhere near one thousand. This is also supported by a line in Half-Blood Prince, which describes two hundred Slytherin students watching a Quidditch game, when it should be half that if all years are like Harry's in size. -- 1337star (Drop me a line!) 02:11, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Number of students (lack of citation)

I believe the comment here that there is about 144 new students per year was based on a comment JK Rowling made in an interview that there is approximately 1000 students attending Hogwarts at any given time. She recanted this statement in a later interview and said 600, but then added that she wasnt doing the calculations and that she is bad with numbers. I do think she intended when writing, for the boys in Harry's dorm to be the only first year boys in Gryffindor. Therefore putting the total number of students closer to about 300 students, which is also corroborated by the fact that Rowling said the Great Hall filled with students in the movie, looked just how she imagined it in the books.

I understand there is still much debate on this topic, but I choose to think in numbers around 300 because that is how I read the books and watched the movies. That was the number in my head and much of the evidence seems to support it. Sources: http://www.hp-lexicon.org/jkr-letter-responses.html

http://www.hp-lexicon.org/essays/essay-hogwarts-how-many.html —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 50.33.183.26 (talkcontribs).

First Year Timetable

I'm just curious from what perspective the timetable was designed...from a specific house or not? If I'm not mistaken, my copy of the first book implies that Harry's first Potions lesson was on a Friday, and it was Double Potions. It also states that Harry in his first year attended Herbology three times a week. I'm just curious as to how accurate this timetable is, or exactly which house the timetable here represents. Is there critical information we're missing? {{SUBST:User:Dark_Seeker_Kotsu/sig4}} 05:25, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

It is built using references from The Philosopher's Stone and the video game of the same name. I haven't played the game, but I would think that it is from a Gryffindor students perspective. I don't think the timetable is supposed to be complete, only to indicate the positions of the classes that are known. --SnorlaxMonster 07:28, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

Shorter school days for first-year students?

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I am curious about the length of the school days for first-year students, due to the timetable. Is Harry only going to class for half of a day - first and second period - except when he has Flying and Astronomy on Wednesdays?

If the school days actually consist entirely of two periods, then it is more confusing. A two-part day implies that Snape is spending half of Monday, half of Wednesday, and all of Friday teaching Harry + the others in Harry's Potions class . This doesn't allow time for Snape to also be teaching his second- through fifth-year classes. He must be teaching all students in those years, because he only stops teaching some after fifth year (if their O.W.L. scores are not good enough for his advanced Potions classes). UnicornWolf (talk) 22:09, February 22, 2014 (UTC)

Well, Astronomy takes place at midnight, nowhere near the other classes. As for the rest, I'm afraid I don't know where you read that classes were only half-days? --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 22:59, February 22, 2014 (UTC)
I didn't read anywhere that classes are only half-days. That is the question that I am trying to ask. Why does Harry only have two classes on most days? Is there no third and fourth period? The only other explanation is that each day does consist entirely of two long periods....but, as I wrote above, this possibility doesn't allow Snape and other teachers enough time to be teaching many other students. -- UnicornWolf (talk) 23:35, February 22, 2014 (UTC)
I'm sorry; now the question makes sense. I suppose there are other classes, we just don't know about them; that, of course, is only my opinion, because I don't think that's ever been addressed. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 00:01, February 23, 2014 (UTC)
You're probably going to get a better idea of the timetable from the one from the movie. I assume the reason the video game info is used over the movie info is that the movie info conflicts with the books. --SnorlaxMonster 01:46, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

Clean Up Needed

The word choice and grammar are rather lacking, especially in the portion of the page talking about Harry's experiences at Hogwarts. Dr. Galenos (talk) 03:39, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

Potions

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According to the timetable, harry attended Potions three times a week! However this cannot be true. Harry's first Potions lesson was on Friday and the lessons started on September 2 (Monday). This means Harry attended Potions only once a week (two periods). Should I change the timetable? -- GianG (talk) 17:46, January 28, 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. The article currently sources this as information from the video games, but that's hardly canon since it directly contradicts the books. Besides, there are so many versions of the first Harry Potter game and each of them presents classes in their own order, that it's pretty impossible to reconcile them all (not to mention, that it's impossible to determine which day of the week it is in most versions of the game). --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 22:28, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
I'll delete Potions lessons. -- GianG (talk) 14:41, January 29, 2015 (UTC)
I've completely rewritten the timetable, and added notes fully sourcing it and explaining it. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 20:07, January 29, 2015 (UTC)

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