IRC log for #koha, 2014-06-22

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00:00 jcamins tcohen: I'm not sure about using render(). The reason we stopped is that it breaks things.
00:04 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #21: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_U14/21/
00:04 jenkins_koha Mathieu Saby: Bug 11021: Suppress unneeded fields in unimarc_complet default Framework
00:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11021 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Pushed to Master , Delete useless 9XX field in french unimarc_complet default Framework
00:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #16: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_Master_D7/16/
00:10 jenkins_koha Mathieu Saby: Bug 11021: Suppress unneeded fields in unimarc_complet default Framework
00:10 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11021 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Pushed to Master , Delete useless 9XX field in french unimarc_complet default Framework
00:16 tcohen can anyone take a look at trivial bug 12462 and sign?
00:16 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12462 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Fix some POD errors
00:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #23: STILL UNSTABLE in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_U12/23/
00:44 jenkins_koha Mathieu Saby: Bug 11021: Suppress unneeded fields in unimarc_complet default Framework
00:44 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11021 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Pushed to Master , Delete useless 9XX field in french unimarc_complet default Framework
02:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1928: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 57 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1928/
02:26 jenkins_koha * Zeno Tajoli: Bug 12299: Translate marc21_relatorterms.sql into Italian
02:26 jenkins_koha * Juhani SeppÃ¤lÃ¤: Bug 12261: Staff client next/previous links lead to unknown record
02:26 jenkins_koha * Yohann Dufour: Bug 12379: remove double use of plugin KohaDates
02:26 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12299 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , SQL setup (MARC21), translation of relators codes - Italian
02:26 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 12367 - Import patrons still says "MD5 hash"
02:26 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11021: Suppress unneeded fields in unimarc_complet default Framework
02:26 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12261 normal, P5 - low, ---, jseppal, Pushed to Master , Staff client next/previous links lead to unknown record
02:26 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12379 minor, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Pushed to Master , Double use of module KohaDates
02:26 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12367 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Import patrons still says "MD5 hash"
02:26 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11021 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Pushed to Master , Delete useless 9XX field in french unimarc_complet default Framework
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07:48 * cait waves
08:22 cait @later tell tcohen http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ting,_2_July_2014
08:22 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
08:38 cait hm possible we didn't fix for new aapche in non-package installations?
09:11 cait @wunder Konstanz
09:11 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0°C (11:00 AM CEST on June 22, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
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09:22 * markvandenborre is thinking about the best way to add cover images to our install
09:23 markvandenborre we have a consistent and unique internal marc21 090n code for every record
09:23 markvandenborre consistent with a pdf's file name in 856u
09:24 markvandenborre so it would be no problem to auto generate an image of the first page of every pdf
09:24 markvandenborre and name it $(090n).jpg
09:26 markvandenborre the only question is how to cleanly export a list of (biblionumber, 090n) pairs I guess
09:26 markvandenborre so we can import it like the manual in http://manual.koha-community.o[…]uploadlocalimages suggests
09:35 markvandenborre I see "export data" under "catalog" in the admin interface
09:35 markvandenborre but that doesn't seem to do what I want
09:40 markvandenborre answering my own question, it seems that I should: add a patron with admin access, create a csv profile with biblio.number and 090n, create a list with all media in it
09:40 markvandenborre export this list
09:41 markvandenborre set my apache max file upload size to a really high number
09:41 markvandenborre auto create first page thumbnails of all pdf documents in the catalog
09:43 markvandenborre add some .jpg extension to the 090n field in the csv list exported from koha
09:43 markvandenborre zip this list together with the auto generated image files
09:43 markvandenborre and upload a batch of cover images into koha
11:44 markvandenborre hi all! I created this tiny tiny one line bash script that might be useful to other people around here who want to fiddle with cover images:
11:46 markvandenborre http://pastie.org/9313649
11:47 markvandenborre still fiddling to find a clean and simple way to export a list of (biblionumber,090n/internal library code) pairs
11:48 markvandenborre so I can automate uploading of cover images
11:49 markvandenborre is there a canonical way to do that?
11:49 markvandenborre or is there a faster/cleaner way to add cover images to the catalog?
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13:36 tcohen morning
13:36 markvandenborre tcohen: afternoon :p
13:37 tcohen hi markvandenborre
13:37 markvandenborre I hope it's not impolite to repeat a question I asked here four hours ago...
13:37 tcohen i wasn't here, so, go ahead
13:37 markvandenborre I'm setting up koha for our local public music academy
13:38 markvandenborre basicly only using koha as a frontend to an online catalog with 3000 pdf books of music scores
13:38 markvandenborre and I'm trying to do cover images
13:39 markvandenborre I wrote a tiny script http://pastie.org/9313649 to auto create cover images from the pdfs
13:39 cait hi tcohen
13:39 cait hi markvandenborre
13:39 markvandenborre both pdf and cover image strictly follow our internal naming scheme
13:39 markvandenborre hi
13:39 wahanui bidet, markvandenborre
13:40 markvandenborre and we have that in marc field 090n
13:40 cait wahanui is the bot, don't let him irritate you
13:40 cait if you want to show the covers, you might want to investigate the local cover feature in koha
13:40 markvandenborre I've read the manual on that
13:41 cait or hte OPACDisplay856uAsImage system preference
13:41 cait 090n doesn't sound right
13:41 cait @marc 090n
13:41 huginn cait: unknown tag 090n
13:41 cait ah yeh... 9 - it's custom
13:42 markvandenborre it's what was recommended to me for our internal unique code per book
13:42 jcamins markvandenborre: your proposal to use the bulk local cover image uploader feature sounds good to me.
13:43 tcohen hi jcamins
13:43 markvandenborre jcamins: it's mostly the export of biblio number thing I'm a bit worried about
13:43 jcamins The other option would be a wacky piece of Javascript that inserts the cover images based on the 090n, but that would be really rough on the server.
13:43 jcamins markvandenborre: you just need a report that prints biblionumber and 090n.
13:43 jcamins sql reports library?
13:43 wahanui sql reports library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library
13:44 markvandenborre ah, that's what I was hoping for...
13:44 markvandenborre something that makes that export easier
13:44 markvandenborre cool, thx
13:44 cait ah right
13:45 cait creating a list of the biblionumbes and the old identifiers... then you could rename
13:45 cait the files correctly
13:45 markvandenborre cait: we want to keep those old numbers as file names
13:45 markvandenborre the physical books are all labelled like that
13:47 cait i tihnk it was wrong about that - you can kepe the file names
13:48 cait i thought they had to match the bibiblionumber, but it's not the case
13:49 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "PerlTidy and Coding guidelines" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/56
13:50 jcamins tcohen: up to you. I prefer option 1, PBP prefers option 2.
13:51 tcohen i prefer option 1 too
13:52 tcohen i'll leave it like option 1, thanks
13:53 * tcohen is glad bgkriegel signed bug 12462
13:53 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12462 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Fix some POD errors
13:54 * tcohen wants master back to stable :-P
13:57 cait about the coding guideline
13:58 cait i think we decided to use the perltidy one
13:59 jcamins cait: perltidy will do both.
13:59 cait hm not sure then
13:59 cait i haven't really used the perltidy so far *confesses*
13:59 markvandenborre hm... xml in the sql database...
14:00 tcohen marcxml records on the DB
14:02 cait i don't have a clear favourite between those 2
14:08 tcohen is there a way to check perl code for strict+warnings compliance?
14:08 tcohen command line?
14:08 cait hm
14:08 jcamins Not really, no.
14:08 cait what does perlcritic check for?
14:08 jcamins That would require static analysis, which is not one of Perl's strong suits.
14:08 cait ah
14:08 jcamins cait: style.
14:09 cait right
14:09 cait that makes sense
14:09 jcamins perlcritic will tell you if there's no "use warnings" line, but it won't tell you that there's going to be a warning.
14:09 cait yeah, makes sense
14:09 cait thx :)
14:09 cait could one write something that checks for new entires in the logs when he file is accessed?
14:10 cait i know that some owuld only show up with spcial circumstances
14:10 cait but you could try and catch some of it maybe
14:10 tcohen we need unit tests to cover all the code
14:10 cait we have a pretty huge code base :(
14:10 cait i think we need to reorganize some of the unit tests as well
14:11 cait right now we try to get coverage up, but it's not really organized :)
14:11 * tcohen likes the way cait thinks
14:11 tcohen but is not a real mess
14:11 cait no and it's still better than not having th tests
14:12 cait i think we have to be careful and focus on a few projects at a time
14:12 cait because our resources are limited
14:14 markvandenborre I am looking if I can find 90n somewhere else but in the marcxml stored in biblioitems
14:14 cait you won't find it somewhere else
14:14 cait you need to query the xml - which is not bad
14:14 cait there are examples at the top of the reports library page
14:15 cait mysql has xml functions that should work here
14:15 markvandenborre cool, didn't know that, thx
14:15 cait it's really not too terrible :)
14:16 markvandenborre it feels like a lot of layers, but not too complicated to pull from there indeed
14:17 markvandenborre ...once you know where to find it in that pile of layers
14:18 tcohen cait, what would you rearrange on the unit tests?
14:18 cait hm not sure
14:19 cait i think the question is about structure
14:19 cait we have some that are split into several files
14:19 cait and it makes sense in some cases
14:19 cait and it gets a bit complicated if you put too many into one file
14:20 tcohen do you think is something the QA team should take a look when someone adds unit tests?
14:20 cait without guidelines it's hard to do - and we are still quite happy when someone provides unit tests
14:21 cait i think it's something that I would not tackle right now until someone has a good idea
14:21 cait unless someone...
14:21 cait we have lots of things to do... need to pick our battles :)
14:25 markvandenborre I am on a low bandwidth vpn connection to the academy library server
14:26 markvandenborre and I have generated the cover images on the library server itself using ghostscript
14:27 markvandenborre I guess I could generate a zip file locally on the server and use a local browser too to upload them
14:27 markvandenborre or do you see another option?
14:27 jcamins Nope, that's what you need to do.
14:27 jcamins Well... I suppose you could write a script to upload the pictures one at a time.
14:28 jcamins But dealing with authentication cookies is always a nuisance.
14:28 markvandenborre not sure what you mean by that...
14:28 markvandenborre I'd need to use a text based browser on the koha server through an ssh session
14:28 jcamins Right.
14:28 markvandenborre to upload files to it that are already stored on the server...
14:28 jcamins The other option is to write a script that uses, say, curl to upload each file one at a time into Koha.
14:29 jcamins In order to do that, you would have to learn how to deal with the authentication cookies.
15:48 tcohen jcamins bakes the best cookies btw
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15:58 cait :)
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16:52 markvandenborre hah, the thing is working now
16:57 cait wish i could say that about my thing here :)
16:57 cait isbd_punctuation_in_data--
17:13 markvandenborre cait: do you think http://pastie.org/9313649 could be useful somewhere on the koha wiki?
17:13 markvandenborre it's only a tiny bit of bash
17:13 markvandenborre or maybe in the koha toolbox git...
17:13 cait i think maybe the wiki
17:13 markvandenborre it's only tiny, but it took me some time to puzzle together
17:13 cait with a bit of adescription of the idea
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19:18 cait @wunder Konstanz
19:18 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 22.2°C (9:15 PM CEST on June 22, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
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22:17 eythian hi
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22:35 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
22:35 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 16.0°C (7:00 PM ART on June 22, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
22:35 tcohen thanks huginn
22:35 tcohen huginn: botsnack
22:35 huginn tcohen: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
22:36 rangi hi tcohen
22:36 rangi ill try to add the push to MM search and stats on the dashboard sometime this week
22:38 * cait waves
22:40 tcohen hi rangi, thanks a lot!
22:40 tcohen do u think someone could provide with a Debian testing node?
22:41 rangi ?
22:41 tcohen i'm setting a debian 6 node for jenkins
22:41 rangi ah right
22:41 tcohen and as eythian said, we should have Debian testing
22:41 tcohen my sysops are refusing to prvoide it
22:41 tcohen :-(
22:42 rangi hmm maybe ask on the devel list
22:42 tcohen right
22:42 tcohen maybewe could talk about it on wednesday :-D
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23:03 jenkins_koha Starting build #1 for job Koha_Master_D6
23:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #1929 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1796 27 days ago)
23:04 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D6 build #1: FAILURE in 1 min 45 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_Master_D6/1/
23:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #2 for job Koha_Master_D6 (previous build: FAILURE)
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23:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12416: add new tests of DelUniqueDebarment <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6acc03a170a86a9e8> / Bug 12416: the subroutine 'ok' is replaced by the subroutine 'is' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]095b8ae6e9b907003> / Bug 12416: add the test of DelUniqueDebarment <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;
23:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #24 for job Koha_Master_U12 (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
23:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #3 for job Koha_Master_D6 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
23:12 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D6 build #3: STILL FAILING in 57 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_Master_D6/3/
23:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #4 for job Koha_Master_D6 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
23:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #22 for job Koha_Master_U14 (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
23:15 tcohen rangi, you might have noticed i've set only one executor for each new node (instead of 2)
23:15 tcohen this is because all tasks share the same git clone
23:16 tcohen because of hdd space issues
23:19 rangi righto
23:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #17 for job Koha_Master_D7 (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
23:39 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12393 - Depend on SSL module for LWP, for OverDrive <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8db553351e978d0b5>
23:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D6 build #4: NOW UNSTABLE in 32 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_Master_D6/4/
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23:48 pianohacker hello all
23:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #5 for job Koha_Master_D6 (previous build: NOW UNSTABLE)
23:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #22: STILL UNSTABLE in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_U14/22/
23:50 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12462: Fix some POD errors
23:50 jenkins_koha * Yohann Dufour: Bug 12416: add the test of DelUniqueDebarment
23:50 jenkins_koha * Yohann Dufour: Bug 12416: the subroutine 'ok' is replaced by the subroutine 'is'
23:50 jenkins_koha * Yohann Dufour: Bug 12416: add new tests of DelUniqueDebarment
23:50 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12462 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Fix some POD errors
23:50 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12416 normal, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Pushed to Master , DelUniqueDebarment (Debarments.pm) is not tested in Borrower_Debarments.t
23:51 jenkins_koha Starting build #23 for job Koha_Master_U14 (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)

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