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baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Wed, 23rd Aug '06 12:45 PM

MESSAGE ABOUT THE EDITORS

First and foremost I would like to say each and every editor does a fantastic job and I am sure that it must be a hard thing to continually have to check others quizzes, not only for spelling and grammar but also for plagarism.
I think that they should all be applauded for the grand job that they do.

The Editors Awards are also a fantastic thing but I have one issue with it.

I have come across quizzes that have not got EA's but are a lot better than ones that have.
This is not an attempt to have a go at the Editors but as I am aware one editor may feel one just fails to make an EA and another editor may think it is good enough. Everyone's expectation of what is and what isnt good enough is going to be different.

For example, is there anyway that if people who had taken a quiz that they thought should have made an EA could post a message and if enough people that had taken it agreed that it should, then either 1 or more of the editors (not neccasirly) the one who edited it first could have a second look at it.

Perhaps it could be called something different than an EA (perhaps the colour could be silver or something) to show that it was awarded after the original launch.

This is just an idea and would be interested to hear what others thought?

maurlin
Maurlin  (Level: 213.3 - Posts: 2671)
Wed, 23rd Aug '06 1:17 PM

I recall a discussion about this in the past, with suggestions similar to that. I think that at the time it was recommended that the great quizzes without an EA be posted on the Hit List chat section.

koota
Koota  (Level: 181.9 - Posts: 2104)
Wed, 23rd Aug '06 1:51 PM

I agree. I always search the Hit List for excellent quizzes that I may have missed.

swiper
Swiper  (Level: 146.3 - Posts: 874)
Wed, 23rd Aug '06 2:35 PM

Baggiob, I put reference to one of your quizzes on "The Hit List." I hope everyone takes it. It was EA material.

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Wed, 23rd Aug '06 2:38 PM

Swiper thanks for that and thanks for the vote of confidence ( you weren't the only person who sent me a message saying about an EA).

The editor must have had a reason.

ummagumma
Ummagumma  (Level: 67.4 - Posts: 186)
Wed, 23rd Aug '06 2:45 PM

I think some of the editors will post an EA to quizzes that don't require any modifications. I know I have benefited a lot from the editor's wisdom to improve the quizzes that I have written.

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Wed, 23rd Aug '06 2:50 PM

Ummagumma someone else mentioned that to me, but I will tell you something there is nothing worse than spending 8 hours writing a quiz of a completely new style that is completly different to anything already on the site. Checking and rechecking punctuation, spelling and grammar. To then sit and wait the 2 or 3 days before it goes live. And after all that it goes through first time, there has been no mistakes in it and it doesn't get an award and you don't get a reason why it wasn't gooed enough.

I think maybe they should sometimes tell you.
Obviously not after every quiz because it is obvious why some don't (most of mine included).

As im sure you will have noticed there are many quizzes that you have taken where you have probably thought they were good enough.

I hope this doesn't make me sound bitter or anything because I am not and I also don't want to cause trouble. lol

linenlady
Linenlady  (Level: 159.1 - Posts: 306)
Wed, 23rd Aug '06 2:59 PM

I could be mistaken about this, but I believe that Fill in the Blank quizzes are not eligible for Editor's Awards. Has that changed?
Diane

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Wed, 23rd Aug '06 3:04 PM

I thought that i had read that somewhere in the past aswell, but there is at least 2 fitb that got awards

ummagumma
Ummagumma  (Level: 67.4 - Posts: 186)
Wed, 23rd Aug '06 3:12 PM

Are we doing this for the public recognition and envy of our peers or just to proove how goofy we really are. I for one anm going for the goof factor - maybe their should be an award for the wackiest, most off beat freaky quiz ever. Maybe I would get the recognition I deserve, uuhhhh, well, I don't care about rewards - just fish - yeah, fish is what I want and building planets or creating an opportunity for my fellow human to say "HUH" what was that about - expanding the universe and fish. That's what it's about - oh and the answer to the question of the universe - is it still 42? ;-0

maurlin
Maurlin  (Level: 213.3 - Posts: 2671)
Wed, 23rd Aug '06 3:14 PM

Bag- I took your quiz and really liked it. My suggestion is to retitle it and move it out of the Fill In The Blank category. It really isn't a fill in the blank quiz. You describe someone and then give a selection to chose from.

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Wed, 23rd Aug '06 5:28 PM

Maurlin are you allowed to swap the category even though it has already been launched?

And what suggestion would you give to me for the new category?
Thanks

Sploofus Editor
Sploofusmaximus (Editor)  
Wed, 23rd Aug '06 6:06 PM

Be sure when you are placing FITB quizzes into the FITB section that it is truly a FITB quiz and not a quiz with questions that have blanks. There is a difference.

Taken from the SQAG - Sploofus Quiz Authoring Guideline:

"A FITB (fill-in-the-blank) question is a question where the primary task for the quiz taker is to fill in a missing word from a movie, book, play, song or other title, lyric fragment, book excerpt, etc. Examples of FITBs:

"Complete the title of this movie which starred Tommy Lee Jones: Men in _______."
"The first line of the novel A Tale of Two Cities is: 'It was the _____ of times, it was the _____ of times.'"
"Elvis Presley made this song famous: ______ Rock."

However, just because a question contains a blank doesn't necessarily make it a FITB. Examples of non-FITBs with blanks:

"1.414 is (approximately) the ________ of 2."

"The part of a bell which strikes the bell's inner surface and causes it to sound is the ______."


Sploofus Maximus

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Wed, 23rd Aug '06 6:22 PM

Ok I am just goint to change the category my quiz is in, thanks for that.

By the way how is it possible to find out which editor edited your quiz?
and is it possible to ask them a question about it?

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Wed, 23rd Aug '06 6:38 PM

Oh and to whichever editor put through my quiz of hardest questions I would like to say a huge thank you, and you will know why. Thanks

Sploofus Editor
Sploofusmaximus (Editor)  
Wed, 23rd Aug '06 7:39 PM

There is no way to know which editor edited your quiz unless he/she chooses to let you know in the note. There is also no way to ask an editor a question about a specific quiz approved. Remember we are just volunteers - imagine how swamped we would be if we had to answer questions about approvals - yikes!

Sploofus Maximus

vettage
Vettage  (Level: 41.0 - Posts: 241)
Wed, 23rd Aug '06 8:34 PM

I just genuflect in the general direction of wherever editors live. I've not wrote a quiz in over 2 months because I know they are being besieged with quizzes about everything from 1+1 to quantum physics.

By the way,...If i ever write a quiz about 1+1,...will someone just shoot me? Please.

violetblue
Violetblue  (Level: 112.2 - Posts: 850)
Wed, 23rd Aug '06 9:17 PM

That's a promise, Tim.

:D

~Tracy

Sploofus Editor
(Editor)  
Wed, 23rd Aug '06 9:26 PM

To Vettage: If you ever even POST again about writing a 1+1 quiz, we may just have to launch a pre-emptive strike!

The Sploofinator

vettage
Vettage  (Level: 41.0 - Posts: 241)
Wed, 23rd Aug '06 9:46 PM

Dunno how to exactly take that,....cowering just in case. In any future reference, I'll make sure I include the numeral 2, just to be safe.

sploofus
Justin  
Wed, 23rd Aug '06 10:38 PM

I appreciate the question your are presenting here, Baggiob, but I have given full discretion to every individual editor to simply award an EA at any given time if they feel that the quiz offers something "special". There are no concrete guidelines as to what does or does not represent EA material.

Unfortunately, I can not ask the editors to justify their selections and address concerns about particular quizzes that do not receive an EA. There should never be an expectation to receive one.

It is entirely up to the editor that happens to receive your quiz. Once the quiz has been approved, there can be no debate or further questioning in regaurds to why the quiz may or may not have received the award.

My honest suggestion is to stay away from fill-in-the-blank content, use clever humor sparingly (but do use it!), make the quiz as interactive and engaging as possible, ensure that it is challenging, and find innovative ways to set your quizzes apart from the rest.

That is what makes a quiz "special", in my mind.

Thanks,
Justin


baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Thu, 24th Aug '06 5:09 AM

Excellent response, one that has been taken onboard.
Only time will tell if i have actually managed to learn from it though.

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Fri, 25th Aug '06 3:25 PM

Cheers Sploofus, I took youre advice onboard and was just awarded an EA for my latest offering. So thanks for the help, im so chuffed

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Fri, 25th Aug '06 3:31 PM

Wow! It worked. I love the editors because................


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