EndNote in OpenOffice for Mac

Hi,

I am using OpenOffice for Mac. I read that EndNote is compatible with OpenOffice but when I open Writer I could not find EndNote. Please help.

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The EndNote CWYW plug-in for the OpenOffice.org Writer word processor is currently only available for the Windows platform. We hope to expand this to the Macintosh in the future. The official word processor compatability lists for EndNote version X3 are available here:

http://www.endnote.com/ENMac.asp - for Macintosh

http://www.endnote.com/ENWin.asp - for Windows

Jason Rollins, the EndNote team

I’ve been a licensed user of EndNote since v.2

I just received your email for upgrading to X4 (from X3 in my case). One impediment for me in doing so is the dilatory effort at creating this plug-in or driver for OpenOffice, or any other word processor (other than Apple’s product) than Microsoft Word. I stopped using Word years ago and I find it a major defect in any product that its use, as a general or generic capability for a task set, is restricted to specific proprietary products from third parties (in this case, two of the largest vendors in this market: Microsoft and Apple). Surely you can make faster progress than you have demonstrated to allow users like me (who are numerous, especially in certain disciplines) use your product most productively with alternative workflow strategies than the so-called de facto “standard”

There is nothing standard about Microsoft Word except for its ubiquity. It’s not a question of cost. I already own MS Office for Mac in its current version. The “new” version apparently will not be released until well into 2011, and then I will still avoid it (though I am likely to upgrade, as the utility for legacy documents justifies the small investment). It’s a question of quality and product design. There are better word processors for my purposes than Word… I resent that you turn to the needs of users like myself last. I would be paying for the full utility of X4 with the cost of the upgrade, and I would be denied a significant piece of that utility. I know you cannot create a separate price structure depending on how much of the product a user can exploit, so I am left with the choice of spending more for a crippled product, or waiting until you find the resources and motivation to speed along the development cycle.

I think that’s a bad choice for both of us, and I think it belies a great deal of the spirit and much of the explicit language you use to tout the power and utility of EndNote. A more precise date by which to expect release of even a beta version of a OpenOffice (or Nisus, or Mellel, or…) driver would be a good start. It’s now three months since you wrote your last status message. How about an update?

Thank you.

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I would have to agree. I love Open Office 3 and have migrated my research, business, and other tasks over to it. i cannot explain why the plug in for Cite While You Write is so difficult to make for Mac as opposed to the Windows version? That makes no sense what-so-ever. Of course I can’t understand why the Endnote version for Windows has more or less features of the Mac version, why not make them both the same? 

> JasonR wrote:
> http://www.endnote.com/ENMac.asp - for Macintosh

Hi Jason
on the website one can read that “EndNote X3 is compatible with the following word processors” although the page shows the release notes for X4. I want to use OpenOffice (Mac) with EndNote and cannot figure out whether it has been published?
Best, Janine

No - EndNote X4 does not include a CWYW plug-in for OpenOffce.org Writer for the Macintosh. We know this is a desirable feature for many customers and it is still on our “To Do” list.

Jason Rollins, The EndNote team

I’ll admit that I missed the fine details when X4 was advertised as compatible with openoffice, but only for windows.  While I’m glad to hear you’re working on the plugin for mac, It would be *very* helpful to have some estimated timeframe when this may actually be expected.  Thanks,

–KJG

Is there a timeline for this plug-in?  Any word as of yet? 

While a CWYW plug-in for OpenOffice.org for the Macintosh is on our master To Do list for EndNote, it is not currently a very high priority as it is not something that we hear requested nearly as often as many other features; plus we do already offer integration with Word and Pages. And, we have made the EndNote API available to other Macintosh word processor developers if they want to use it.

If there are others who think this is important, please voice your opinion and let us know what specifically it is about OpenOffice.org integration that is different/better than what can be achieved with Word and/or Pages.

Thanks,

Jason Rollins, the EndNote team

@jasonr wrote:

“While a CWYW plug-in for OpenOffice.org for the Macintosh is on our master To Do list for EndNote, it is not currently a very high priority as it is not something that we hear requested nearly as often as many other features; plus we do already offer integration with Word and Pages. And, we have made the EndNote API available to other Macintosh word processor developers if they want to use it.”

 

Terrible response.  I too did not read the fine print, thinking that Endnote was compatible with mac also.  I am disgusted at your suggesting I use Word (a joke of a word processor).  Considering the rapid expansion of mac users and the ubiquity of Oo, you have no excuse. 

I’d like to add my support to the comment made by pfalke.

I recently acquired a Mac (I now know that I have purchased my last Windows PC) and like to use Open Office.

Thomson Reuters need to have a good look at their priority list and get support for Open Office on Macs moved well up the list.

Surely this is not a significant task and should be able to be done quickly.

Ray

Just to remind users of other Word Processing programs - you can use the copy paste function to insert refs into OpenOffice andafter saving it as an RTF and fomat it from endnote.  the CWYW functionality is really overrated.  I don’t often use it in word! 

CWYW may be a little overrated, but it’s still important.  When I was using M$ Word, I would often use unformatted references for the *early* drafts to help visualize which reference was where.  The real utility comes near the end of a submission process, when there are still numerous small changes, but it’s important to have it in final format.  This is where CWYW is golden and can handle insertions, rearrangements, and even unformatting.  With a number of contributors/reviewers, we’re already dealing with multiple concurrent versions.  

Needing to keep additional unformatted versions is not a reasonable response to our requests for the feature that was advertised, but with fine print that this feature only works for windows.  The contrast between “knowing it’s a desirable feature for many customers and it is still on our ‘To Do’ list” and “it is not currently a very high priority” in the previous responses is both striking and frustrating.  

I agree with kjg321 that CWYW is an important EndNote functionality. As a long-time EndNote user (and ProCite before that) and recent Mac convert, I was very disappointed to find CWYW doesn’t work with OpenOffice. CWYW becomes particularly critical in manuscripts for journals that use citation numbering as opposed to author-year, etc. Once you start moving topics and paragraphs, adding and deleting references, and so on, it is nearly impossible to identify and change reference numbers if you have used cut-and-paste as Leanne suggests. I’ll add my call for TR to add the CWYW function to EndNote for Mac ASAP. 

Any progress on CWYW for OpenOffice for Mac?

The reason for not using MS Word with Endnote (for me, who writes lots of articles with embedded Hebrew or Arabic) is simple: the Mac version of Word does not handle RIGHT-TO-LEFT text (Hebrew or Arabic) within the context of a LEFT-TO-RIGHT sentence (all European and American languages!). The Windows version does. Go figure!!

As for Pages, it is a nice little program for page layout and news letters but too rudimentary for serious writing. So EndNote should get busy making bridges to full-fledged Mac word processors that do handle RTL in context of LTR (Pages does, but it is inadequate; Nisus Writer Pro does, and Mellel does). 

Please don’t leave us EndNote users without assistance here!

I agree that a solution should be provided for Mac and OpenOffice users who should be allowed to use CWYW as Windows users. These users are in great number and they are all switching to Zotero and other software that allow CWYW with Mac and OpenOffie. What is Thomson Reuters waiting for?
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