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"New lead in Madeleine McCann Case" Article Confusion [edit]

Can you please explain your reasoning behind the "cleanup" tab that you put on the article New lead in Madeleine McCann case. I have sited the whereabouts of the information from reliable sources and have put the information in my own words. What did I do wrong in that article? Firefighter04 16:57, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Could you please give me a good reason why this article needs "editorial cleanup"? This is a good news story! Read the articles I put for sources to find out why it is a good news story. Thank you. Firefighter04 17:08, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
Well at the time the facts were not right. Now the lead is no lead and nothing came of it. DragonFire1024 17:38, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

ATC incident article [edit]

Hi, regarding the ATC incident article that was suspected as a copyvio (since, I've now seen, discovered not to be) but replaced anyway with my rewrite by yourself, you mention that this was all per a descision made in an IRC conversation... I wonder if you could run me through the main points of how that progressed, as I'm obviously an interested party (Just a quick list, it's more curiosity than anything, don't worry about every single detail! If you've spent more than five minutes repying you've far exceeded what I require.). If not, fair dos, but if you can, that would be great and really apreciated! Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 12:29, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

What I meant was, how was the descicion reached to use the rewrite despite the discovery that the user involved was in fact the original author? Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 15:56, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
I just reverted the tags and added the new writing as reference. After that, I had no other involvement. DragonFire1024 02:08, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
OK. Thanks anyway. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 10:34, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Two Katyusha rockets fired into northern Israel [edit]

"Almost a year ago, Hezbollah militants started to nearly 4,000 thousand rockets into Israel"

Should there be a word between 'to' and 'nearly'? Adambro 15:11, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

I actually re-worded it. :) DragonFire1024 15:24, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Questions for the Wikipedia Signpost [edit]

Hi! My name is Ral315, and I'm the editor-in-chief of the Wikipedia Signpost, a weekly newspaper on the English Wikipedia. I'm sending out an optional questionnaire that I hope you'll respond to. These questions will be published in next week's issue, and hopefully translated into many languages and copied to the Meta-Wiki prior to the election. (So, if you speak multiple languages, it'd be fantastic, though certainly not required, if you'd be willing to translate your answers into any languages you speak fluently.)

There's no word limit on any of these questions, but I suggest that brevity (maybe about 300-400 words per answer) is best. If at all possible, answers should be submitted by 16:00 UTC on Monday, June 25 (though late responses will also be accepted).

I'm posting these to your talk pages because they don't really fit well on question pages (since many will repeat questions you've already answered). You can reply to me by e-mail, or at my English Wikipedia, English Wikinews or Meta talk pages.

Thanks again for answering these, and good luck in the elections.

Sincerely, Ral315


  1. Do you have any other usernames or pseudonyms?
    No
  1. What current or former user rights or positions do you have, and on which projects? (i.e. administrator, bureaucrat, arbitrator, developer, steward, board member, etc.)
    en.Wikinews Administrator
  1. Outside of Wikipedia, what do you do for a living?
    I work in an upscale restaurant in Buffalo, New York.
  1. What languages do you speak?
    English
  1. Why do you want to join the Board? What qualities do you feel you can bring to the Board?
    The Board needs to take more interest in the smaller projects and not ignore individual project needs. I hope to change that.
  1. About how much time do you think you'll put into the role?
    As much as possible
  1. Ideally, where do you see the Wikimedia Foundation in 5 years?
    The biggest provider of free information on the web.
  1. As a board member, how will you ensure a balance between openness and necessary privacy in board matters?
    By allowing Board minutes to be public whenever possible.
  1. Recent discussion has centered around the Wikipedia and Wikimedia brands. How do you feel the Wikimedia brands should be used, or changed?
    We should use them in a way that we can get money for them but alos in a way that raises awareness about our organization being free to use, edit, and read.
  1. Wikimedia projects in developing nations are growing in popularity, but still lag far behind the more popular projects. What steps would you suggest to improve the quality, readership, and number of editors on smaller wikis?
    We do not advertise the Wikimedia foundation enough or its individual projects. We need to raise awareness that these projects exist and they are as free as the rest of the WMF projects.
  1. What do you feel should be done to increase participation on non-Wikipedia projects?
    Well for starters, more advertisement of existing projects on other existing projects. Maybe a little outside advertisement such as a YouTube video that UCLA made about the Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing, or BOINC].
  1. As a board member, what strategies would you consider to raise money for the Foundation?
    Longer, more publicized fund-raisers, grant options as there are many in the US, AN EXAMPLE ONLY: adding an outside/external search engine or something that a company would pay WMF to use on their projects.
  1. What else do you want to say to voters? (This is a good place to answer a question specific to your candidacy that you think should be answered)
    The board need diversity. We have lawyers and professionals already. The board has lost its touch with time and needs to be more of a "everyday people" Board. Our contributers are mostly that: everyday people with everyday lives. We (the various projects) also need to work more together as opposed to trying to compete with each other. Our goals are the same, to provide free information to the world, and I also think that means efficiently and collaboratively.

DragonFire1024 04:28, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Elections [edit]

Have corrected it - think it should count now. --MarkTalk 09:20, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Recent image uploads [edit]

In future please upload any free images to Commons. Doing so allows them to be used on other Wikimedia projects and they can be better organised. It also makes it easier for foreign language Wikinews projects, for example, to find images to use in their stories. Uploading free images to Wikinews is deprecated, you'll note in bold text on Special:Upload it says Please upload all images under a free licence to Wikimedia Commons. I would suggest you do this. Regards. Adambro 15:49, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Regarding your reply on my talk page, thanks for getting back to me. I'm slightly surprised that you, as a Wikinews admin would take this approach, especially considering your Wikimedia board candidacy. It seems to me that an image is very unlikely without good reason so for you to upload your images here to try and avoid deletion seems unconstructive. Surely it would be better to address the concerns raised. Looking at your Commons talk page I notice you have been informed of at least some deletions and in those cases where you haven't you can of course discuss it with the admin responsible.
It may be useful for the purposes of this discussion if you gave me the names of some of the images deleted which prompted you to begin uploading free images here.
When I get chance, I work through the free image categories here and on other projects and move appropriate images to Commons so your recent uploads will probably end up there anyway. Adambro 16:04, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Reminder - Signpost questions [edit]

Remember to finish the questions above as soon as you can - this will allow me to publish them on time tomorrow. Ral315 (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

edit protection [edit]

I just saw you protected a breaking news.

Sadly it just happened at the exact moment I tried to make an entry. Can you add the entry I tried to input or give advice about how it can be corrected ?—Esurnir 19:17, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Project news [edit]

The Wikinews Bulletin

June 11, 2007 The Wikinews Bulletin Volume 1, Issue 2

Editor's note Board elections turn political; Wikinews has candidate
Wikinews gets own OTRS queue Administrators and accreditations: June 11 - June 26
Blog activity: June 11 - June 26 Featured content: June 11 - June 26
What did the Cabal discuss on IRC these past 2 weeks? Bulletin Shorts

Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Delivery List Shortcut : WN:BULLETIN

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 09:09, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Elections [edit]

Hi Jason, I havent been around here much lately unfortunately but wish to give my support for the board elections. I wish you well and you will be getting my vote. Cheers - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 11:31, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Hotel2.jpg [edit]

You may wish to be aware of this. The deletion request is made on the basis that I think the same issues apply to those images as the two at WN:DR here. Adambro 13:29, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Fox News copyvio [edit]

Wow, two whole paragraphs basically cut-and-paste. But they do attribute it to "an investigation by Wikipedia". In much of the general public's mind Wikinews or any Wikimedia Foundation project for that matter, is the same as Wikipedia. --SVTCobra 21:32, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikines is NOT wikipedia though. Regardless they copyvioed us. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:33, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I sat in on the latter part of the IRC discussion. BTW, would you agree that we need to clean up and compile the OR notes on the collaboration page for Death of Nancy Benoit rumour posted on Wikipedia hours prior to body being found? For example, this stuff should be included in the notes. Just saying, as closer scrutiny is sure to follow this evening's TV interview. --SVTCobra 23:54, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Original Reporting [edit]

Hey man could you help me out with my Original Reporting article. I can't really prove what I say but, its aonline and I show everything I know in the article. Here is the article. http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Website_of_Venezuelan_National_Assembly_is_disabled_by_hacker The 13th 4postle 11:41, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Category:Image on Commons [edit]

Discussion at http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous#Category:Image_on_Commons. Adambro 18:50, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Benoit Story [edit]

You left a message on my wikipedia page asking if you could ask me a few questions about the Benoit story. Sure. 216.115.162.100 09:41, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Please confirm this by logging in on the English Wikipedia, and posting a message on your user page. Thunderhead 10:11, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews Bulletin Delivery [edit]

The Wikinews Bulletin

July 3, 2007 The Wikinews Bulletin Volume 1, Issue 3

Editor's note Wikinews popularity soars as result of Wikinews investigation
July 1 Mass Image Deletion Administrators and accreditations: June 27 - July 3
Blog activity: June 27 - July 3 Featured content: June 27 - July 3
What did the Cabal discuss on IRC these past 2 weeks? Bulletin Shorts

Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Delivery List Shortcut : WN:BULLETIN

Delivered by your friendly neighboorood Thunderhead 08:50, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

New Ghanaian currency introduced [edit]

I am new to Wikinews. Since you were the first to welcome me, I wonder whether you can take a look at this new article. Thanks.--Natsubee 10:22, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the edits. Much appreciated.--Natsubee 10:45, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Verify your candidate summary [edit]

Hello Jason Safoutin. There is a summary of your 2007 board elections candidate platform and answers at s:Wikisource:News/2007-07-01#Candidates. Because of the great deal of text to read through for all candidates, it is possible that there are errors or omissions in your summary. Please read it and respond at m:user talk:Pathoschild or by email with any corrections or suggestions. If you'd prefer to edit the page yourself, remember that the summaries should be as neutral as possible. Thanks. Pathoschild 16:09, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Looks good...But should reiterate more on my stance on the image resolution. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 16:23, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Thank you. Could you explain your stance on the image resolution? If I understand correctly, it is "Allow fair use, although free content is preferable." If you can summarize it more accurately, please do so— I unfortunately do not have time right now to research very deeply. :) Pathoschild 16:42, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
This basically sums it up: Let me just clarify: Not all projects are drastically or in some cases slightly changed by the resolution. It would seem that the resolution favors a few projects over others, (new addition ->) and the resolution did not take into effect it would have of some projects. It should be conformed to fit the needs of each project, it does not. The definition of free was written by a board member, which is writing "free" as he sees it, and is basically his POV of free. (Good summary?) ;) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 16:52, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
A little long. :) How about "Allow fair use, and change the licensing policy to fit each project's needs"? Could you specify how it should be changed? Pathoschild 02:20, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Signpost (WP) [edit]

Hi Jason, you probably already saw this already, but just in case you didn't, there's a write-up about the Benoit edits on Signpost: Wrestler death. It's a few days old. --SVTCobra 23:43, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Deletion Request [edit]

What should we do about your images in DR? It's been quite sometime, and they're still there (I never got anything back...). Counting the bold it's looks to be keep, but adambro wants us to count comments as well... terinjokes | Talk 07:51, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Comments are not votes IMO. these Images have been around for over a year. They didn't have a poblem then, and they shouldn't now. I know what my rights are towards them, and I am going to continue defending them. I am not going to relisence something that is a photo, taken during a public hearing/meeting, of city officials, the press, and developers and the public. And quite honestly, this debate is getting old. If they are such a significant problem, then get rid of them. I certainly am not going to sit down and take the time to write out a fiar use rational for them especially after this long. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 18:09, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
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