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GD Guidelines and Questions for the Moderators

Posted: 08:47PM Jul 4, 2009
Avatar for froggygg froggyggAusmod
Magical Sorceress Frog
Posts: 9856

Welcome to the GD Forum!

Here is a list of guidelines to follow when you are posing here:
1. You must use acceptable language
2. You must not berate other members (name calling, etc)
3. You must be making a valid point (no mindless quotes)
4. Stay on topic
5. Don't make veiled threats to other members or Mods
6. Don't berate, bash, or make insinuating comments about the Mods.


Before you post a new topic, be sure to look through the first couple of pages of topics for an existing one. This will ensure that no duplicate topics are open at once. Duplicate topics will be locked. Please do not open senseless polls that will not lead to productive discussions. An example of a senseless poll would be: "Which Poll Do You Like Best?" or "Do You Like This Poll?" when no real topic for discussion was specified. Any valid poll that generates positive discussions is fine, such as: "What is Your Favorite Meal of the Day?" or "What Is Your Idea of a Perfect Vacation?". Please do not make the choices in your polls lenghthy since no one likes to scroll through a huge list.

This isn't a chat-room. Please post with actual words, in actual sentences. Use the "Edit" feature, instead of double posting. Do not post in all caps to try and draw attention. In Forums, this type of posting leads others to think you are yelling or screaming at them. Yelling isn't nice. Please do not use excessive formatting to make your message huge as this causes problems with some browsers and is not courteous to others. Please feel free to use as many as you wish of the formatting choices in the same post, but limit yourself to only 3 or 4 of the same formatting command applied to the same word or phrase. Remember to read the Forum Rules before posting as well.

This Topic is now going to be unlocked so that users can freely post valid questions or concerns to the Moderators of this Forum. Please do not post questions solely for the purpose of irritating the Moderators or other members. The questions are for the Moderators to answer only. To keep the topic clean, we will delete any posts that are not questions or concerns. If you have an issue that you would rather address privately with a Moderator, please PM one of the GD Moderators directly. There may be times when a Moderator will choose to discuss a specific problem with a member by directly PMing them. This is not an attempt to "hide" an issue or problem with a member, but out of respect for the members to avoid possible embarrassment in front of the other members. Thank you.

GD Forum Mods:


bradon182001
Fishmed
Froggygg


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SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
Posted: 10:49PM Jul 4, 2009
Avatar for Trickster1992 Trickster1992Aen
Posts: 14515

Could you list which questions/concerns are allowed in public and which you insist should be handled privately?

If the list is well-thought out, it could save some people lots of trouble in the future.


There's something that's missing if we can't recognize that our own existence is the miracle before our eyes. --Michael Tait
Posted: 12:33PM Jul 5, 2009
Avatar for iforgotbraingle iforgotbraingleAus
Posts: 4883

Seems the stickies and announcements are piling up. Think everyone's seen the poll topic and it can be merged into this topic as one of the rules?

Well then.
Posted: 08:40PM Jul 5, 2009
Avatar for Brainy_1 Brainy_1Aus
Posts: 6656

Answering your question Trick, just go about posting and asking questions that adhere to the guidelines. I think that way, everyone will be following the rules and if something should come up that isn't according to the rules, then you/they will be PM'd.

IFB, that has been done regarding the polls.


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I hope life isn't a joke, because I don't get it.....
Posted: 10:10PM Jul 5, 2009
Avatar for Trickster1992 Trickster1992Aen
Posts: 14515

What do you (froggy) mean by "mindless quotes"?

There's something that's missing if we can't recognize that our own existence is the miracle before our eyes. --Michael Tait
Posted: 09:27AM Jul 6, 2009
Avatar for iforgotbraingle iforgotbraingleAus
Posts: 4883

A-What are the rules regarding using good English? Do we need punctuation and sppppeeeeelllllllllinjg? Where is the line.
B-On that note, what's the rules regarding correcting someone?
C-If this site is supposed to be family-friendly, why does everyone need to act like an adult? 0_0


Well then.
Posted: 07:34PM Jul 7, 2009
Avatar for iforgotbraingle iforgotbraingleAus
Posts: 4883

Clarification: Seems a lot of people think the rebeling was done maliciously. It wasn't(at least from my part). It was done to help. Perhaps not the best method of execution, but freedom must be spread! =D
"If rules are left unchecked, we'll all die."


Well then.
Posted: 01:52AM Jul 8, 2009
Avatar for Steve1973 Steve1973Aus
Posts: 901

So a question of curiosity from me:

What do we define as family-friendly? as spam?

The topic Nvrks was locked because:
This topic is being locked due to the fact that it is NOT family friendly and is, once again, verging on spam. Please think about the topics you open in the future and please follow the Guidelines. Thanks. Brainy1


How is a topic about an imaginary language NOT family friendly? Would a topic about imaginary friends be family friendly? What is it about the topic itself that goes against family-friendly morals??

How is it spam? Spam, as defined by the forum rules, is "the abuse of our forums by posting advertisements, links to unrelated websites, affiliate or referral links, or in general any post that is off-topic and is designed to benefit only yourself."

The topic wasn't an advertisement. It didn't link to anywhere. It wasn't an off-topic post, since the post itself was about a new topic on an imaginary language. It didn't just benefit one person, as other people were talking in the topic and playing around with the idea.

I'll admit, it wasn't a serious topic talking about Obama and Iran, but it was a very lighthearted and gentle topic about a creative exercise in imagination from a younger member. Why does every topic have to be serious to be "family friendly"? Shouldn't families be allowed to sit back, relax, and discuss nonsensical things as well as the serious things?

As for the thing of following the guidelines, What exactly IS the guideline for the General Discussion Forum? From the description, it reads "Talk about whatever you want in here". GD isn't restricted to books, or entertainment, or current events. It's a hodge-podge forum, where a user can go and share their unusual thoughts and ideals.

Really, I don't quite understand WHY an imaginary language is anti-family. I don't know HOW it's spam, as defined by the forum rules. Can someone clarify these two things for us? Let us know why it'd be an anti-family friendly topic, and why it was spammish?

Thanks.


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Posted: 03:05AM Jul 8, 2009
Avatar for vlerma vlermaAus
Grayma V
Posts: 4422

Perhaps I should not even bring this up here as I am not a Mod, but reading Steve's question, brought up another one in my own mind. I read the Nvrks, considered it for a moment, tossed it aside and went on. It wasn't something that interested me.

My question is this. There are sponsors and advertisers on Braingle to help meet the overhead, but are any of the Mod's decisions regarding Spam and such based on a monetary value to be on the WWW? Do things that are of no interest to the general user possibly get called spam because of what it costs Braingle?

While still working my head boss found out how literate I was on the computer. I worked the 3-11 and then 11=7 shift to keep patient service open all night. Sometimes I ran out of work before morning and I would get very sleepy. So my boss told me that if I wanted to write letters or stories on the computer to go ahead, but to just keep busy. After writing out about four complete stories I asked for help to down load them onto a CD. One office girl just threw a fit because she said I was robbing computer space from the hospital because I had some of my stuff out there. Thankfully my boss was higher up on the scale than my fellow employee so I didn't get into trouble, but this thought entered my mind.

And if you feel this is not the proper section for my question, please delete my inquiry and send me a quick PM. Thank you.


The sound of the wild, but if there is no one there, does anyone hear their howls?
Posted: 01:03AM Jul 13, 2009
Avatar for Steve1973 Steve1973Aus
Posts: 901

Let me ask a new question here:

What's the purpose of this topic? Is it just to give people a place to post questions, so that they can be ignored?

I posted my last topic over 5 days ago (just check the time stamp), and so far haven't gotten so much as a "We hear you, we'll look into it and get back to you soon." No answer here, none via PM, nothing... Just a great wall of silence...

Is there even a point in having a topic to ask questions, when it seems that all one is doing is speaking into an empty void? Could you guys at least give us the decency to let us know you've seen this topic, and that we're not being completely ignored when we post in here??

ALL of the mods who are listed in the 1st topic have been online, and in Braingle several times in the last 5 days. Now, I know it might take a few days for you guys to discuss our questions and get us an "official" answer, but just why the heck can't someone do the courtesy of letting us know we've been heard?

I mean, Heck! I can't think of ANY other "customer service" type business, model, or interaction that I've ever had where the company/people-in-charge didn't at least send me a "Thank you for your concern, we're looking into the issue" type response so that I didn't feel completely ignored.

A day, or even two -- perhaps three -- I could see; especially if no one had logged in, in that time to address the concern (or if it'd been during a Holiday season like Christmas). BUT, to just leave people with a complete wall of silence for the biggest majority of a week is just rude and inexcusable.

IF you mods send one of us users a PM, question, or comment, are we allowed to just ignore you for the next week or so? I don't think so. You expect us to respond, comply, and acknowledge your communications with us as soon as you give them. However, when we have questions, concerns, or feedback for you, we're just "Put on hold" -- without someone even being decent enough to LET US KNOW WE'RE ON HOLD!!

Can you honestly say, that THIS type of behavior is what you think is "family friendly"? Do you tend to just ignore your family "offline", whenever they ask a question for you as well?

"Hey Ma, Pa, Can I go over to Joe's for a Birthday Party this weekend?"

(chirp chirp)

"Ma? Pa?

(chirp chirp)

"MA! PA!!"

(chirp chirp)

"Are you guys DEAD? WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!! Quick, someone call 911!"


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Posted: 05:11PM Jul 13, 2009
Avatar for Brainy_1 Brainy_1Aus
Posts: 6656

Steve...your questions will be addressed...we Mods are going over the questions. Please give us a little more time and please stop posting the same questions over and over. They will be addressed. Thanks. brainy1

Edit: We Mods are thinking of moving the topic you have been discussing to the Games topic
Edit: Nvrks is now being unlocked and moved to the Games topic.


---This message was edited on 07:16PM Jul 13, 2009---

I hope life isn't a joke, because I don't get it.....
Posted: 03:56AM Jul 14, 2009
Smithy*
Posts: 987

Steve, I'm not a GD mod so this isn't really my place, but I'm much more likely to assist someone if they politely point something out or ask a question rather than leaping on a pedestial and ranting for over a page on something which essentially took one sentence to ask. You do have a genuine point at the heart of your post, but because of the way you wrote it you simply come across as trying to cause trouble and complaining for the sake of complaining and, if I were a GD mod, it would certainly test my patience.
Posted: 01:18PM Jul 14, 2009
Avatar for Steve1973 Steve1973Aus
Posts: 901

Smithy wrote:
Steve, I'm not a GD mod so this isn't really my place, but I'm much more likely to assist someone if they politely point something out or ask a question rather than leaping on a pedestial and ranting for over a page on something which essentially took one sentence to ask. You do have a genuine point at the heart of your post, but because of the way you wrote it you simply come across as trying to cause trouble and complaining for the sake of complaining and, if I were a GD mod, it would certainly test my patience.


"If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack." -- Winston Churchill

I think Churchill said it better than I ever could, but your post does leave me with another question:

Since you're not one of the 7 mods of this topic, as described in the first post by Froggygg herself, are you even allowed to come in here and give your opinion?

This Topic is now going to be unlocked so that users can freely post valid questions or concerns to the Moderators of this Forum.... ...The questions are for the Moderators to answer only. To keep the topic clean, we will delete any posts that are not questions


Since you're not one of the mods of this forum, shouldn't your post be deleted to keep this topic clean for "official" replies from the people who do mod this forum? OR, if any mod can answer freely here, shouldn't all your names be included at the bottom of the first post so that people at least know who is an "official spokesperson" for Braingle. To be honest, I didn't even realize that you were a mod until you mentioned it yourself. I'm not that much of a sports fan, and don't tend to head into the Sports Forum very often, so I don't keep up with the mods there -- and it doesn't seem like you actually mod anywhere else.

If ANY mod, from any forum can answer questions here, then could someone at least update the list so we know who they are? If this is only for mods of this forum to answer questions in (as most other forums have the "ask a question" sticky), then shouldn't the "off-duty" mods follow the same rules and have their posts deleted so the topic can stay clean for official responses only?

Which is this? A topic for any mod to answer in? Or a topic reserved for the GD mods to give their "official" answers in?


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Posted: 01:41PM Jul 14, 2009
Avatar for bigSWAFF_69_ bigSWAFF_69_Aus
Posts: 2414

I can see the point in questioning some of the things the Mods do.

It's just kinda human nature to question "authority", innit?

But if I've learned anything in my relatively short time on this beautiful green Earth, it's that constantly complaining and attacking others never gets you anywhere.

(Note: I didn't say mod bashing. That term is severely over-used on this forum)

I thought Smithy's post was rather polite, considering. I don't think an entire post questioning the validity of his post/opinion is, in any way, going to benefit the situation.


I'm def. not taking any sides here, "people" vs "mods". I think both sides are right and wrong in multiple ways. However, how things are going, the whole predicament isn't going to get any better. Some users (not directed at any in particular) are much too vocal/harsh with their complaints, whereas some mods are too quick to cry "bashing" while pulling their security blanket over their head.

Nothing is ever going to be perfect. The mods are never going to be flawless, prompt, exact, or entirely consistent; and users will never cease to question what goes on. I just don't see the point in a giant riff forming between the two parties. The Internets are a tough place to express feelings and have them understood correctly, but that's just the inevitability of it all. No party will get things exactly how they want, so why can't we all just get along?


EDIT: I understand this post detracts from the posted topic, but let's face it; this topic was only created to try and lessen all this crap.


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Posted: 01:43PM Jul 14, 2009
Smithy*
Posts: 987

I can't answer your questions about what goes on in this forum, as I made clear in my post, and your reply only serves to prove my point again.
Posted: 01:46PM Jul 14, 2009
Avatar for Brainy_1 Brainy_1Aus
Posts: 6656

Look, I unlocked the topic you all wanted, answered your questions Steve, moved the Nvrks into the games forum. What is your question? You sent me a very nice PM and I thought this was all over...so what's the problem now? Smithy posted here, as we mods, just like all of the other Brainglers can post anywhere. He was just making a statement, in a short, sensible post. brainy1

I hope life isn't a joke, because I don't get it.....
Posted: 02:15PM Jul 14, 2009
Avatar for Sunrose SunroseAus
Posts: 3490

What do we define as family-friendly? as spam?


My question is this. There are sponsors and advertisers on Braingle to help meet the overhead, but are any of the Mod's decisions regarding Spam and such based on a monetary value to be on the WWW? Do things that are of no interest to the general user possibly get called spam because of what it costs Braingle?


I haven't seen where these questions have been answered.


Made your bed, now lay in it....But you can always add a bedside table, change the sheets, take out the trash...it doesn't have to stay the same unless you want it to.
Posted: 03:10PM Jul 14, 2009
Avatar for Brainy_1 Brainy_1Aus
Posts: 6656

Family Friendly...no swearing, spam, berating others...has no one read the rules!?!?!?!?

Spam...it's in the rules...doesn't anyone read ANY of the rules and guidelines anymore?

This is becoming ridiculous. Please read the rules again!

Thank you! brainy1


I hope life isn't a joke, because I don't get it.....
Posted: 03:17PM Jul 14, 2009
Avatar for Sunrose SunroseAus
Posts: 3490

I have read the rules brainy. But I also find your post very offensive, and even down right RUDE.

These questions have been asked. Please clarify them.

Family Friendly - as you said, but if this site deals with children, then why is the posts made by children being locked? Since the posts aren't bashing or attacking another member. If they are allowed to post and since we are a family friendly site, they should be allowed to have posts where it may draw the interest of other young adults and children.

Please stop telling us to refer to the rules, when they have been quoted in other posts. That is so ridiculous. And if you can't clarify them, just say so.


Made your bed, now lay in it....But you can always add a bedside table, change the sheets, take out the trash...it doesn't have to stay the same unless you want it to.
Posted: 05:13PM Jul 14, 2009
Avatar for iforgotbraingle iforgotbraingleAus
Posts: 4883

iforgotbraingle wrote:
A-What are the rules regarding using good English? Do we need punctuation and sppppeeeeelllllllllinjg? Where is the line.
B-On that note, what's the rules regarding correcting someone?
C-If this site is supposed to be family-friendly, why does everyone need to act like an adult? 0_0


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