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    It would be a vast improvement if the powers that be only regulated how we expressed ourselves, as it is now they want to control what we express.

    To use your analogy of a friends house (although I think a neutral area like a pub would be a more apt analogy), his mother is not just trying to stop you from saying "I disagree with this for fuck sake", she wants to stop you from disagreeing at all.

    I argue with my friends all the time, we&#39;re all intelligent human beings who think for ourselves, and naturally our opinions are not always aligned. Admittedly our opinions of most things are usually somewhere in the same area, but they&#39;re different enough that arguments arise.

    If I say something that is enough opposed to what my friend thinks, his mother is going to throw me out. It doesn&#39;t matter how I express those views, I could make the most reasoned argument possible for my case and I would still be shown to the door since my opinions didn&#39;t fit the approved opinions of the house.

    And also, more importantly, if I dare to disagree with his mother on something, I will be thrown out that much faster. If she were to caution me for example and say something like I should stop talking because it sounds like I&#39;m about to break the rules of approved talking subjects, and I were to respond and say that I disagree, I would not be given a chance to state my case and show her how the subject is actually ok according to the rules. I would be thrown out.

    Is the forum = police state analogy extreme? Sure it is, but those are the best kind of analogies because it forces people to deal with things instead of just complying with whatever they&#39;re told to do.

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    bedges..I will skip the metafor for a while.

    When mods reply to a "why cant we discuss this" with a "Please read the rules: No public discussion about a mod&#39;s decision. "

    (this happened when i released the handguns for arma and invited people to talk about Resistance to ArmA imports)

    Then I think its just wrong, why not explain why this matter cant be discussed. Another exempel was when I got my "warning".

    A post that I said several team have talked alot and delivered so little made people angry, not the community but the mods and some members of Unsung (that clearly forgot I did alot of coding and structure for them), so when I answered them and also talked about the topic I got my warning based on "you talk off-topic". The real reason was ofcourse that I also had criticed CWR team.. and since their member also happens to be a forum moderator that was offcourse not correct. raedor warned me and said "lets take this in PM".

    Again, away from the public.. and this is not only me, not only the current mods. Remeber how Toadlife because he mention the cr-a-c-k word. This some years ago, for those that doesnt remeber Toadlife been sharing his script and knowledge, always helping out.

    ofcourse the rules should be fair and same for everyone, but if someone like constantly pushes and fights with the mods. A warning should be handled out.. but when the mods start to close and lock (really shocking this thread still open) threads the same second they read something they dont like or warn/threat people the moment they say "hey wait a second.."

    We cant always love each other, but as a moderator I think there needs to be a change in behaviour. If the thread starter or members say "lock this" then please do, but when several persons say "we wish to discuss this" and a mod close it down because.. he doesnt like it. Its just wrong.
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    I for one are pretty happy how the forums are moderated, ive seen to many forums with topics that go so far off topic that you find your self trudging threw piles and piles of replys of &#39;lol&#39; and such. These forums are the best iv ever had the plesure of being part of, with mostly mature members and revelant topics and convosations.

    Topics closed for reasons i dont agree with are far and few between. Although i my self (a good few years ago) had a topic closed for no good reason, but i didnt really care to complain, this is a forum, not a domocracy so im not to concerd of infringment of peoples right to &#39;freedom of speach&#39; or any thing as its only the internet and a public gaming forum.
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    You all agreed to abide by these rules the moment you signed up so I dont see a reason why question them now. Actions taken by a moderator is not open for public debates. You may ofcourse contact a moderator in private if you want to discuss the matter further. This to avoid unnecessary whining/flamefests and to keep the forum a tidy place to debate for everyone without having to wade through tons of garbage and agressive and meaningless flamewars. If you suddenly no longer approve of the rules you are free to leave.
    Since I&#39;m in a good mood today I will only lock this topic and not warn you that you are breaking rule §18

    If you feel that you were wrongfully accused and punished by a moderator, feel free to present your case to me in private and I will take up the matter in private with the moderator in question.

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