IRC log for #koha, 2020-11-25

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00:09 philor wahanui: no, everyone is staying home and staying safe
00:09 wahanui ...but everyone is headed to the hackfest in Marseille...
00:10 philor accept reality!
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03:19 mtj hi dcook, ill apply my patchset after yours, re 26672 - ill upload it today
03:19 dcook mtj: Sounds good
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06:07 Oak magnuse
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07:11 kohaputti ashimema, hmm: the "Configure items for purchase" text in English can't be right here https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]udes/pos-menu.inc ?
07:11 ashimema, it links to settings for debit types
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07:12 TimothyAlexis How can this be solved?
07:12 at translate.koha-community.org
07:12 There are {count} archived suggestions.
07:12 ashimema It makes sense to me kohaputti
07:13 TimothyAlexis Critical errors:      Python brace placeholders
07:13 kohaputti TimothyAlexis, it is false positive
07:13 ashimema It used to say something different, but people requested to be changed to the current text
07:13 kohaputti TimothyAlexis, we have ignored the message since it is not python code
07:13 ashimema, but items? I'm thinking the link would take me to some page to setup items that can be sold at the library...
07:14 ashimema You do indeed configure the items for sale from the debit types admin page.. they're just more debit types with the items for sale checkbox ticked
07:14 kohaputti oh, then it starts to make sense
07:14 ashimema That is the page
07:14 kohaputti I have not used this feature
07:14 ashimema Feel free to suggest alternative text
07:16 Mmm, suppose 'items' isn't hugely clear.. it's anything you can sell.. which could include services
07:16 kohaputti would be more intuitive to have a separate page for adding items for sale even if they are using the same db table as debit type codes
07:16 ashimema I'd find that really confusing personally
07:17 You often mix the types across POS and Manual Invoice
07:17 So having separate pages displaying the same list is more confusing
07:18 kohaputti ok, now there is just no way of knowing how to add items for sale if you don't read manual
07:18 ashimema This feature is like 5 years work with 4 big public libraries contributing to the specification ;)
07:19 You think it's that unintuitive?
07:19 Go to point of sale, click the link to configuring items for sale, click add, check box that clearly says to display it on the point of sale page
07:19 Seems fairly clear to me
07:20 Maybe I'm too close to it though to be honest
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07:20 ashimema It's easy to know how when you wrote it.. so I'm deffo open to suggestions
07:21 There is an open bug to add more filters and things to the debit types management page though.. which I think would help
07:25 kohaputti ashimema, you are right it is a bit easier to figure out how to add the items if you come from the POS page, just that when you click the link I wonder how did I end up here, what am I gonna do with debit codes, I wanted to add sales items.
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07:25 kohaputti also when you go add debit codes then one might wonder why does this thing ask me to sell a code...
07:25 "Can be sold?"
07:26 ashimema Fair point, some clearer wording somewhere might help
07:26 That's the one
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07:27 ashimema I'll have a little ponder, see if I can come up with some clearer wording.. 'Debit types' in general is a bit of a technical term
07:27 kohaputti less options would be my solution, no chance for wrong choices
07:27 and to have less options my solution would be separate pages
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07:27 ashimema 'Items, Services and Charges'
07:28 Joubu hi #koha
07:28 kohaputti ashimema, maybe list the items and services in another table below?
07:28 alex_a Bonjour
07:28 kohaputti hi :)
07:28 cait1 hm not sure, you will want to be able to sell the same item via pos and from the patron account
07:28 ashimema But they're a mixed list that often have multiple ticked sets
07:28 cait1 but still waking up :)
07:28 ashimema Our customers do
07:29 cait1 yeah, I think this will be common
07:29 ashimema Photocopying is an example.. they often want to allow someone to just used that service and pay straight away (POS).. but sometimes they will allow a regular patron to use credit on their account to pay for photocopies
07:30 Me too on the waking up front
07:30 TimothyAlexis kohaputti++
07:30 ashimema Dog wants to drag me round the block in a moment too
07:30 TimothyAlexis kohaputti++
07:30 ops
07:30 ashimema++
07:31 oh well, thanks
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07:31 ashimema Lol
07:32 Joubu How was going the git fetch this morning?
07:33 ashimema Huh
07:35 DNS SPOOFING DETECTED
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07:35 ashimema did the git move happen
07:35 cait1 ashimema: yes
07:36 Joubu++
07:36 can you all cross fingers for us today? we are having the user meeting
07:36 ashimema oh cool
07:36 fingers crossed
07:36 looking good Joubu
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07:37 reiveune hello
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08:29 ashimema remind me Joubu...
08:30 did our git-test passwords get migrated into the new git server or should I be setting up a new account again?
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08:34 magnuse Joubu++
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08:34 * magnuse crosses fingers for cait
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08:43 Joubu josef_moravec: around?
08:45 josef_moravec Joubu:
08:45 Joubu: yes
08:46 Joubu josef_moravec: ha, I just sent you an email!
08:48 josef_moravec Joubu: I created account on git server using openId
08:48 ;)
08:48 Joubu ho right, haven't seen it was there!
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09:43 cait 207 participants in the user meeting right now :)
09:43 so ... keep crossing fingers, it appears to work
09:44 magnuse cait++
09:44 cait if someone doesn't mind hte German, all info is here: https://wiki.bsz-bw.de/display/KOHA/Aktuelles
09:49 magnuse "never mind the german", famous song by the sex pistols ;-)
09:53 cait really? didn't know
09:53 any good?
09:55 magnuse of course! :-)
09:56 cait 213, keeping us busy :)
10:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #419: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/419/
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10:45 tcohen morning
10:46 cait++
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11:06 cait 213 was the most for now, we held onto about 200 for all of the morning session, now break and continuing at 2pm :)
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11:32 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #156: FAILURE in 2 min 22 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D11/156/
11:34 Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #74: STILL FAILING in 3 min 55 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D11/74/
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11:55 tuxayo Hi #koha :)
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12:27 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
12:27 wahanui Congratulations!
12:27 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #157: FIXED in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D11/157/
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12:47 mtj hi #koha
12:47 hi tcohen: do you have any preferences about adding koha-core/full to the KTD repo?
12:48 tcohen that's a hard call. I would love to use koha-core and have all the extra services run on their containers.
12:48 but
12:49 we need to test things more similar to what production looks like
12:49 so I'd go with koha-full
12:50 mtj there are a few different ways to achieve it
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12:59 mtj tcohen: would you like to have a go at it? or me? ^
12:59 tcohen if you can do it now, better
12:59 I'm trying to look after majors and blockers right now
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13:02 mtj ok, do you prefer koha-full on the master branch still?
13:03 ..and using the dist/buster dir - or a new dist/buster-full dir, perhaps?
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13:13 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #75: ABORTED in 1 hr 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D11/75/
13:17 Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #76: STILL FAILING in 4 min 38 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D11/76/
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13:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #77: STILL FAILING in 4 min 16 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D11/77/
13:30 Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #78: STILL FAILING in 2 min 29 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D11/78/
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13:33 TimothyAlexis What's the difference between GetOptions('option:s') and GetOptions('option=s') ?
13:36 Joubu TimothyAlexis: https://metacpan.org/pod/Getopt::Long#=-type-[-desttype-]-[-repeat-]
13:36 it's optional with ':'
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13:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #129: FAILURE in 2 min 28 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.05_D10/129/
13:39 TimothyAlexis Joubu++
13:46 I'm looking at enhancing delete_patrons.pl to accept multiple categories.
13:46 It uses the function GetBorrowersToExpunge from Members.pm
13:46 Which is also used by tools/cleanborrowers.pl...
13:46 wahanui okay, TimothyAlexis.
13:48 TimothyAlexis If I change GetBorrowersToExpunge to accept an array and the SQL to use IN instead of =, it should be fine, am I thinking about it correct?
13:48 It should then accept 1 or more category codes, so that cleanborrowers.pl can stay the same...
13:51 bug 27050
13:51 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27050 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, timothy_alexis.vass, ASSIGNED , Allow multiple category_codes in delete_patrons.pl
13:52 Joubu TimothyAlexis: it's the "Options with multiple values" part
13:53 TimothyAlexis I understand how to get the options, but then it's used in a function which is also used by another script.
13:54 If the other script only adds a scalar as the parameter and this one adds an array with a list, that will still work right?
13:54 I want to make sure the changes I make still keeps other stuff working.
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13:55 Joubu no, you needs to adjust the other script, to make it pass an arrayref as well
14:00 TimothyAlexis So, cleanborrowers.pl is under Component: Tool and delete_borrowers.pl is under Component: Command-line Utilities.
14:01 And Members.pm is under some other Component I suppose...
14:02 How should I manage this at bugs.koha-community.org ?
14:02 Joubu use "command-line utilities"
14:02 the main change is for the delete_patrons.pl
14:03 TimothyAlexis OK, thank you for the guidance.
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14:13 ashimema bug 27079 ready for test and qa
14:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27079 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , UpdateFine adds refunds for fines paid off before return
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14:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #79: NOW UNSTABLE in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D11/79/
14:22 TimothyAlexis If I change the <select id="borrower_categorycode"...> to accept multiple options, will this be correct?
14:22 my @borrower_categorycodes = $params->{'borrower_categorycodes'} || q{};
14:23 I'd change it to <select id="borrower_categorycodes" name="borrower_categorycodes" multiple>
14:25 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
14:25 wahanui Congratulations!
14:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #130: FIXED in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.05_D10/130/
14:25 tuxayo hi tcohen :) I was about to test the follow up of bug 26282, I shall wait right?
14:25 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26282 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, ASSIGNED , Allow staff to decide if a hold cancellation notice will be sent when cancelling a hold
14:25 tcohen please do
14:26 I'm just working on unit tests as a QA follow-up
14:26 mark it SO when you're done
14:26 and, thanks :-D
14:27 tuxayo tcohen: ok great :D
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14:42 tuxayo tcohen: "no reason given" should also trigger a notification right? (if checkbox ticked)
14:43 tcohen that's not how the code works
14:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #136: ABORTED in 1 min 39 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]20.05_D9_My8/136/
14:43 tcohen I think that'd be an extra enhancement
14:44 Joubu maybe the checkbox label should be adjusted t
14:44 then
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14:52 tcohen tuxayo I agree it should send it
14:53 I'll adjust the tests
14:54 Joubu no it should not
14:54 that's how the feature was designed
14:55 the label however should be more exact (unless we disable the checkbox unless an option is selected)
15:01 cait1 tcohen: Joubu: Bernardo tells me he fixed a problem with translations - for German that's 1300 new strings
15:01 well words
15:01 but maybe something for the list?
15:01 it's doable in a day if people want to
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15:02 tcohen great
15:03 caroline +1
15:03 Joubu cait1: I am going to send an email
15:04 cait1 thank you
15:05 khall has something happened to git.koha-community.org?
15:06 cait1 heh
15:06 it moved :)
15:06 * khall hasn't been paying attention
15:06 cait1 Joubu: we should switch the logo on the front page for something with better quality, but otherwise it loks really nice first glance
15:06 khall the new site looks great!
15:07 cait1 i also spotted the statswith some url manipulation
15:07 Joubu khall: git remote set-url origin https://git.koha-community.org[…]ommunity/Koha.git
15:07 if you have issue on git pull
15:07 khall thanks Joubu !
15:07 Joubu cait1: the stats should be at the same place than before
15:09 cait1: which logo would fit better?
15:11 This is the one from the header of k-c.org - https://koha-community.org/fil[…]d-kohabanner3.jpg
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15:14 cait1 i think the ones on the wiki are a bit better sec
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15:15 cait1 the green png one would maybe look nice https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]s_and_Explanation
15:15 Joubu but background is grey
15:16 isn't it?
15:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26672: Add additional koha-core and koha-full files to ./debian <https://git.koha-community.org[…]39e2404daae1c8bc2>
15:18 News from kohagit: Bug 27082: uncertainprice.pl does not handle pagination <https://git.koha-community.org[…]d2d48da43f09415e9>
15:18 News from kohagit: Bug 26819: (QA follow-up) Fix branchtransfers.tt <https://git.koha-community.org[…]0a80efa8d1c3b2297>
15:18 News from kohagit: Bug 26819: (QA follow-up) authorized_value should be authorised_value <https://git.koha-community.org[…]c5b9c02b1da40ba9b>
15:18 News from kohagit: Bug 26518: (QA follow-up) Expect warnings, don't supress them <https://git.koha-community.org[…]3dfcd235b81c982a7>
15:18 News from kohagit: Bug 27070: Add cross_fields type to our searches <https://git.koha-community.org[…]7a3887bdaa034b06f>
15:18 News from kohagit: Bug 25942: Fix batch report operations for cardnumbers and biblionumbers <https://git.koha-community.org[…]79a68ef32aa36cee5>
15:18 News from kohagit: Bug 27026: (bug 24159 follow-up) Add a tooltip to explain the values of "Days mode" <https://git.koha-community.org[…]07f32e8a42453757e>
15:18 News from kohagit: Bug 26819: Fix calls to AuthorisedValues.GetDescriptionByKohaField in course-details.tt <https://git.koha-community.org[…]23a281bc3646c599a>
15:18 News from kohagit: Bug 26672: Add koha-core and koha-full definitions to debian/control files <https://git.koha-community.org[…]89f1ecbbf74a29a50>
15:18 News from kohagit: Bug 26518: Move BiblioAutoLink within the transaction <https://git.koha-community.org[…]900fd428b0b1395ad>
15:18 News from kohagit: Bug 26518: Hide expected DBI warnings <https://git.koha-community.org[…]12732e5861da4ac3d>
15:18 News from kohagit: Bug 26518: Raise exception if the insert failed <https://git.koha-community.org[…]2036bb269efd04a46>
15:18 News from kohagit: Bug 26518: Use Koha::Biblio[item] in AddBiblio <https://git.koha-community.org[…]becadb2a36176a4be>
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15:22 cait1 Joubu: they are, but we used to have links on top of the git page
15:23 now you can only find them if you know the URL
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15:23 cait1 Joubu: the koha repo pretends to be a mirror still - Note: This is a synced mirror of the official Koha repo.
15:23 https://git.koha-community.org[…]ha-community/Koha
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15:25 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
15:25 wahanui Congratulations!
15:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #80: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D11/80/
15:25 cait1 bbl - bye all!
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15:28 Joubu ha, better, I was going to later tell cait1,2,3
15:28 yes we definitely need to adjust the home page, we could discuss it and update it when we are ready
15:29 the "note" thing is coming from the .md file. We assumed it was *only* used by github and gitlab. Now that it's displayed on git.k-c.org I don't know what we can do
15:29 tcohen Joubu about bug 26282
15:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26282 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Allow staff to decide if a hold cancellation notice will be sent when cancelling a hold
15:29 Joubu we can remove it, but it will get removed from github and gitlab as well
15:30 however there is a warning in the description of the repo on github I think
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15:32 Joubu bug 27092
15:32 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27092 trivial, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Remove note about "synced mirror" from the README.md
15:33 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
15:33 wahanui Congratulations!
15:33 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #137: FIXED in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]20.05_D9_My8/137/
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15:38 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27092: Remove note about "synced repo" from README.md <https://git.koha-community.org[…]dcbd9e4b5faa01e27>
15:38 News from kohagit: Bug 26672: Remove unrequired default-mysql-* references <https://git.koha-community.org[…]0117ac7c9ee13f67f>
15:39 cait i think removing is ok for now
15:39 and maybe we need to list the different ones if it's used ina lot of places
15:39 please note that the repos on gitlab and github... or so
15:39 i am gone again, was just finishing up something :)
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16:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #158: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D11/158/
16:15 Project Koha_Master_D10 build #420: SUCCESS in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/420/
16:23 reiveune bye
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16:56 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #421: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/421/
16:57 Project Koha_Master_D11 build #159: SUCCESS in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D11/159/
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18:47 caroline I'm sorry to ask this again, I'm a bit lost with the yml vs sql for translations
18:47 is there a wiki page that explains what we should do to translate things that are sql only?
18:50 should I remove the installer/data/mysql/fr-CA directory completely?
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18:54 cait maybe you could take a look at the patch Joubu did for de-DE
18:54 caroline ah!
18:54 cait it's quite recent
18:54 caroline I thought you weren't there
18:54 cait I am about to go to sleep
18:54 caroline I was waiting for your meeting to end to ask you lol!
18:54 cait oh!
18:54 caroline I'll look for the patch and try to figure it out
18:54 cait Joubu wrote it, i only tested
18:54 buti think it's not hard
18:55 the po files should already be on pootle i think
18:57 good night all
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