Time  Nick            Message
23:56 dcook           :D
23:55 wizzyrea        Why do we have database files that are mandatory, but able to be not installed. So confusing.
23:40 mtompset        the permissions system... *cringe* But I think I figured out the MySQL I need. :)
23:01 wizzyrea        you can set it all to 0 if you want!
23:01 wizzyrea        onboarding, that's what it's called.
23:01 mtompset        Who says we do circulation? :P
23:00 wizzyrea        oh and create your first circ rule.
23:00 wizzyrea        which I think is probably ideal.
23:00 wizzyrea        yep, if we made some kind of extension to the installer, we could just have them add a user then.
23:00 mtompset        AND all that other stuff you mentioned.
23:00 mtompset        Then we should actually prompt for the first super librarian user....
22:59 wizzyrea        yeah but that's not acutally solving the problem :P
22:59 mtompset        Just a massive yellow warning here and only allow superlibrarian would be sufficient for this screen. :P
22:59 wizzyrea        in fact, we should just make an extension to the installer, where if someone doesn't select the optional branches and borrower categories, we prompt them to create some at install time.
22:59 mtompset        Scope control. :P
22:58 wizzyrea        and "you don't have borrower categories. Do that here"
22:58 wizzyrea        we should also check for things like "you don't have a branch defined, do that here"
22:58 wizzyrea        if you're going to do that
22:58 wizzyrea        ^.^
22:58 mtompset        wizzyrea: yes, but no one reads. *sheesh* :P
22:57 wizzyrea        we put a huge warning on the home page :)
22:57 mtompset        system user can only set superlibrarian?
22:57 mtompset        Perhaps we should purposefully prevent it?
22:57 mtompset        Right, I know.
22:57 wizzyrea        (by default, on purpose)
22:56 wizzyrea        some of which are not installed when Koha is.
22:56 wizzyrea        but a new user is dependent on lots of stuff, like borrower categories and branchcodes
22:55 wizzyrea        the problem being "give a user to a newly installed koha that works out of the box"
22:55 wizzyrea        and we haven't come up with a great solution to the problem yet.
22:55 wizzyrea        and people shouldn't use it
22:54 wizzyrea        because making it work encourages people to use it
22:54 wizzyrea        i mean you're welcome to go down that rabbit hole but I suspect if you went about fixing it you'd get pushback
22:54 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16978 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Failed QA , Add delete reports user permission
22:54 mtompset        plus... I was just trying to understand the permission system, so I could write the necessary SQL query for bug 16978
22:53 mtompset        But if setting permissions works for setting the superlibrarian or other full permission blocks, why don't the granular permissions work.
22:52 mtompset        True, rangi... but sometimes laziness bites you in the butt. :)
22:52 wahanui         goodnight cait. You'll be back.
22:52 cait            night all
22:51 cait            i should sleep :)
22:51 cait            ah... being one to add the permisions
22:51 cait            there i sno patron account
22:51 cait            that user has no permissions to be set - that's wh i am confused
22:51 rangi           it says it right there :)
22:51 rangi           except to make a real one
22:51 rangi           becayse you are never ever ever supposed to use that user
22:51 cait            ?
22:51 cait            =
22:50 mtompset        But now I want to know why mixed doesn't work for system users. :P
22:49 wizzyrea        excellent. :)
22:49 mtompset        all is good.
22:49 mtompset        and then log in as that person...
22:49 wizzyrea        lol
22:49 wizzyrea        but that is why we discourage that
22:49 mtompset        But if I superlibrarian one...
22:49 wizzyrea        that's not super obvious
22:49 wizzyrea        haha
22:49 mtompset        exactly.
22:49 wizzyrea        oh like the koha admin?
22:48 mtompset        mixed checks don't work for a SYSTEM USER.
22:48 wizzyrea        go on then
22:48 wizzyrea        oh I probably will :)
22:48 mtompset        Something stupidly obvious.
22:48 mtompset        You are not going to believe the cause.
22:48 mtompset        oh get this...
22:43 wizzyrea        (but I bet you are not)
22:43 wizzyrea        and/or cleared memcached if you are using it
22:42 wizzyrea        have you cleared your cache/cookies lately?
22:42 wizzyrea        just for kicks
22:36 mtompset        I'm going to screen cast this...
22:34 mtompset        drop database, create database, run web install.
22:34 mtompset        No, it's a blank DB.
22:34 mtompset        Okay... back...
22:22 wizzyrea        do you have anything in your intranetuserjs?
22:22 wizzyrea        I just used your steps mtompset, it works for me
22:16 cait            maybe something there
22:16 cait            here is some javascrit at work on that page
22:15 * mtompset      takes 15-20 minute break to pick up brother from work.
22:14 mtompset        (drop database koha_library; create database koha_library; quit; -- then run web install steps full sample data)
22:14 mtompset        okay... so my fresh install is not failing in that regard.
22:13 wizzyrea        181
22:13 wizzyrea        hm
22:12 mtompset        wizzyrea? cait?
22:10 mtompset        show tables;
22:10 mtompset        use koha_library;
22:10 mtompset        how many tables do you have in your DB? I have 181.
22:09 mtompset        I choose to uncheck "forced_checkout" this time.
22:09 mtompset        nope... same problem.
22:08 mtompset        okay... nothing looks like it... anyways... doing webinstall now...
22:07 wahanui         accountlines is, like, the table
22:07 cait            accountlines
22:07 cait            i tink that's about money
22:06 mtompset        C4/Accounts? Mmm... we'll see.
22:06 mtompset        23MB.
22:05 wizzyrea        O.O
22:05 mtompset        huge git pull on my master branch.
22:05 wizzyrea        :) I keep a clean master branch for this reason hehe
22:04 * mtompset      shouts, "RESET IT ALLLLL!"
22:04 mtompset        16978... good idea... let's try this against master.
22:03 wizzyrea        do you have a pristine master branch?
22:03 wizzyrea        are you checked out on master or a particular bug?
22:03 mtompset        This is an ANCIENT.... full git
22:03 wizzyrea        that rules that out :)
22:03 mtompset        plack.
22:02 mtompset        wizzyrea: I don't know how to set up place.
22:02 mtompset        no errors in the js console.
22:02 wahanui         Plack is a FastCGI thingy that works with Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack for more information.
22:02 wizzyrea        plack?
22:01 wizzyrea        (though I bet if you clicked save now, the perms you set would be blanked out)
22:01 mtompset        Let me chck.
22:01 wizzyrea        errors in the js console?
22:00 wizzyrea        so the display is wrong?
22:00 mtompset        Full Sample Data.
22:00 mtompset        Yes.
22:00 wizzyrea        are they saved in the database?
22:00 wizzyrea        maybe because you'd always have to know the number and/or a librarian could accidentally delete it?
22:00 mtompset        save, come back in... nothing is set.
22:00 mtompset        uncheck one of them.
22:00 mtompset        all set... come back in ... it's okay.
21:59 mtompset        chose circulate.
21:59 mtompset        set permissions, because none of them are set...
21:59 wizzyrea        cait: re 7520 idk why I feel weird about a public report
21:59 mtompset        log in with the system user, go to Koha Admin (since I choose all sample files)
21:59 mtompset        Nope... same problem.
21:58 mtompset        but perhaps same solution?
21:58 mtompset        full git clone.
21:58 mtompset        No, not devbox.
21:56 wizzyrea        there was a bug in older devboxes that caused permissions to be dumb
21:55 wahanui         rumour has it devbox is great for getting going quickly
21:55 wizzyrea        devbox?
21:55 mtompset        then recheck.
21:55 mtompset        I'll dump and force a fresh install.
21:55 mtompset        -- that's a possibility.
21:55 mtompset        -- no it isn't.
21:55 cait            something not quite right with the database?
21:55 mtompset        home -> patron -> {chose Admin, Koha}
21:55 cait            maybe it#s specific to the reports?
21:54 cait            check updatecharges - save - uncheck reamining permissions  - save - open again - resave - all good
21:54 mtompset        but then why is my display blank the second time I go back into set permissions?
21:54 cait            it#s behaving correctly
21:54 cait            mtompset: i tried with updatecharges
21:41 mtompset        Thank you. :)
21:41 mtompset        Okay.
21:41 cait            i can try then
21:41 cait            finishing something else first
21:40 mtompset        Do you have time to run those steps I suggested in my paste above, cait? It's really quick.
21:40 cait            we get placeholders to move around in any case - mveron takes care of that
21:40 cait            i think the translation will be ok
21:39 mtompset        Greetings, cait. :)
21:39 mtompset        ugly in the sense of "how do you format this information?"
21:39 mtompset        It's a really piece of ugly but necessary output.
21:38 mtompset        The problem is when you are dealing with something which is going to hit multiple translations with variable values, you really want multiple language speakers' input.
21:35 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13796 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Alert in OPAC when renewing an item with a rental charge
21:35 cait            i think we need a native speaker on bug 13796 to resolve a wording question
21:34 pastebot        "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Serious permissions bug!" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/50
21:33 mtompset        I have an issue I'd like someone else to confirm. Anyone got time for a quick 5 minute check?
21:32 huginn          mtompset: The operation succeeded.
21:32 mtompset        @later tell mveron Thanks for 16978 signoff. Find a side bug. :(
21:32 mtompset        Greetings, #koha.
20:33 cait            rangi++
20:33 cait            thx!
20:30 rangi           gone
20:26 cait            should all have Spam as a atitle
20:26 rangi           nvm found them
20:25 rangi           do you have a list of bugs?
20:25 rangi           i have to find and delete all comments and bugs and stuff etc before i can do that too
20:24 cait            maybe delete?
20:24 rangi           cait: i can delete the user, there is no block thing though
20:23 rangi           morning
18:07 eythian         drojf: oh, if you want a fun project, I always wanted to turn the release notes into debian changelog
16:54 oleonard        On the list of authorized values you may not know you can use because it's not loaded by default: MANUAL_INV
16:00 cait            hm ithink it#s some kind of include file
15:43 Joubu           drojf: see http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=release-tools.git;a=summary
15:28 drojf           how is the release team generated for the release notes? it seems to show the recent packaging manager (myself), but the last generation of bug wranglers (including myself). that's a little weird
15:13 morgane         bye
14:38 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16310 - Remove the use of "onclick" from audio alerts template <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fcd139b22239206142809993cf9e328a3cdce38d>
14:34 drojf           because it#s not consistent
14:34 drojf           it's not gonna get more confusing than what we have now
14:32 cait            might bemore confusing to people
14:32 cait            hm not sure about splitting
14:32 tcohen          both should be split into proto (http/https) and base URL
14:28 drojf           why does OPACBaseURL want http(s) and staffClientBaseURL doesn't?
14:16 drojf           ah ok
14:16 oleonard        The number is correct in the body of the message. It's just a typo.
14:16 drojf           koha 15.5?
14:03 khall           oleonard: I'll check on that, maybe I was asleep at the wheel ; )
14:03 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16310 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove the use of "onclick" from audio alerts template
14:03 oleonard        khall: Bug 16310 says "pushed to master" but it doesn't look like it really was.
12:57 cait            lol
12:51 tcohen          hehehe
12:49 * drojf         grabs fake mustache
12:49 LibraryClaire   :D
12:48 magnuse         ~o~
12:48 * LibraryClaire waves arms around
12:47 LibraryClaire   like the village people?
12:47 drojf           or a dance group
12:46 drojf           if we stop working on koha, we could be awesome airport staff
12:45 drojf           \o/
12:45 magnuse         o/
12:45 tcohen          \o
12:45 Joubu           tcohen: o/
12:44 tcohen          hi Joubu
12:43 LibraryClaire   hi tcohen
12:43 tcohen          hi drojf
12:43 drojf           hola tcohen
12:43 tcohen          buen día #koha
12:26 cait            my immedaite solution to the problem was testing with the Sereal patch reverted out *hides*
12:26 cait            i missed that - will try to test it :)
12:26 cait            aah
12:26 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16715 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Koha::Cache - Use Sereal for serialization
12:26 Joubu           cait: last patch of bug 16715
12:24 cait            Joubu: i got problems installing Sereal and was told you were working on something, do you ahve the bug number by chance?
12:24 cait            btw - can someone take another look at the patron modification bug?
12:23 cait            valid
12:23 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17000 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron Modification log access permission
12:23 cait            bug 17000
12:23 cait            heh :)
12:23 Joubu           luckily they did not get 17000!
12:18 huginn          cait: The operation succeeded.
12:18 cait            @later tell rangi can you block samitasinha67@gmail.com in bugzilla?
12:17 cait            same problem we had on the wiki
12:17 cait            they do register ig uess
12:17 drojf           no need to register on bz to post?
12:17 cait            hope i caught them all
12:17 cait            as best as i could - set the comments private and changed the titles
12:17 oleonard        cait++
12:17 oleonard        16998, 16999, 16997, 17002
12:17 drojf           oh :/
12:17 cait            i tried to hide them
12:16 oleonard        Spam bug reports
12:16 drojf           or people working? :P
12:16 drojf           fake comments?
12:16 drojf           oleonard: hm?
12:15 oleonard        Man, what is it with the Bugzilla spam this weekend?
11:50 * LibraryClaire waves
11:48 marcelr         hi #koha
11:48 meliss          hi magnuse!
11:47 magnuse         hi oleonard and meliss
11:46 cait            hi oleonard
11:46 oleonard        Hi #koha
11:30 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5456 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Passed QA , Create a link to opac-ics.pl
11:30 magnuse         Joubu++ for qa'ing bug 5456
10:57 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15397 - Pay selected does not works as expected <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=537adde2d2f65ed9bb9a03a127b9906930d46353>
10:47 cait            sorry, was at lunch
10:46 cait            Joubu: if you wnat to pass it that's ok for me - otherwise i can take a look
10:46 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11360 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Disable barcode field and submit button when a hold is found
10:46 cait            bug 11360
10:31 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 22.5°C (12:30 PM CEST on August 01, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
10:31 drojf           @wunder txl
10:24 Joubu           cait: do you want to have another look at 11360?
10:19 huginn          Joubu: The operation succeeded.
10:19 Joubu           @later tell tcohen D8 is failing because of Sereal missing. But wait for the second patch of bug 16715 (we need libsereal-decoder-perl and libsereal-encoder-perl instead)
10:05 Joubu           could someone confirm that there is a bug when uninstalling a koha plugin?
09:57 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16573 - DBRev 16.06.00.012 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e8b54cb3be3c15287b88869550d5fde2221f5d94> / Bug 16573: Define virtualshelves.created_on as datetime for existing installs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=44785935bd45291a2ae36a5c9ab65b1e6cf69c5b> / Bug 16573: change created_on type - atomic update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;
09:43 cait            I was wondering if we shoudl try for a qa sprint/gbsd... but not sure there are people :)
09:42 cait            it seems we have vacation time and things are slow in general
09:42 cait            aw.
09:42 Joubu           cait: I have not looked at the code. I do not plan to QA it
09:39 cait            do you understand the active transactions?
09:39 cait            Joubu: thx for the hint :) will try to do that later
09:38 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6934 enhancement, P3, ---, bouzid.fergani, Signed Off , New report Cash Register Statistics
09:38 Joubu           cait: on bug 6934 comment 94 you wrote that you got the "used only once: possible typo" warnings. You should update your qa-tools repo ;)
09:33 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 19.6°C (11:22 AM CEST on August 01, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
09:33 eythian         @wunder ams
09:11 magnuse         pianohacker wrote in his "moving on" email to koha-devel: "taking a job with a local web application shop"
09:09 cait            bywater is still there - I think someone else will probably have to take over
09:05 ashimema        didn't he have a bunch of pretty big features in the works
09:04 cait            not sure about pianohacker - but I know he has a new job
09:04 cait            nengard to redhat
09:04 ashimema        going to greener pastures?
09:03 magnuse         well, they do say they will be around...
09:03 ashimema        really
09:03 ashimema        oh now..
09:03 magnuse         nengard pianohacker...
09:03 cait            nengard and pianohacker
09:03 ashimema        have I missed someone leaving?
09:03 ashimema        another?
09:03 cait            as long as you come back... i can't stand losing another person anytime soon
09:03 magnuse         hang in there!
09:03 ashimema        it's been a big dark cave I for far too long :(
09:03 ashimema        still a month or so off before I reach the other end and get to come back to koha.
09:02 * cait          throws a pokeball at ashimema
09:02 ashimema        the light at the end of the tunnel is slow growing bigger..
09:02 * drojf         prefers them cooked
09:02 ashimema        lol
09:02 cait            ... or maybe not quite
09:02 * cait          resists the urge to make a joke about rare pokemons
09:02 ashimema        :)
09:01 LibraryClaire   hi ashimema
08:59 cait            an ashimema! :)
08:59 cait            oh
08:57 * drojf         jumps
08:56 * ashimema_     ducks
08:55 * cait          waves back
08:54 * LibraryClaire waves
08:49 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on August 01, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady).
08:49 magnuse         @wunder boo
08:44 magnuse         \o/
08:43 * cait          waves
08:31 magnuse         kia ora paul_p
07:59 magnuse         kia ora cait!
07:56 magnuse         july is the common holiday month in norway - it was very quiet
07:56 magnuse         hehe, probably
07:55 drojf           but i hope it will get more quiet now as all other people start their holidays
07:54 drojf           magnuse: would love some holidays, not very relaxed ;)
07:52 magnuse         hiya LibraryClaire
07:50 LibraryClaire   hi magnuse
07:49 magnuse         and yourself?
07:48 drojf           :)
07:48 magnuse         very relaxing
07:48 magnuse         oh yes!
07:48 magnuse         well, two weeks of work now, then a couple more weeks of holiday
07:48 drojf           did you have a good time?
07:48 magnuse         yup
07:47 drojf           holidays over?
07:47 magnuse         moin drojf!
07:47 drojf           hei magnuse
07:47 * magnuse       waves
07:46 huginn          LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 16.0°C (8:20 AM BST on August 01, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
07:46 LibraryClaire   @wunder LCY
07:45 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 16.1°C (9:35 AM CEST on August 01, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
07:45 drojf           @wunder txl
07:45 drojf           hi LibraryClaire
07:45 LibraryClaire   morning drojf
07:45 LibraryClaire   morning #koha
07:44 drojf           morning #koha
07:04 morgane         hi #koha!
06:43 fridolin        hie
02:55 dcook           bender lately*
02:55 * dcook         has been on a RPM packaging bende rlately
02:55 dcook           I don't know why more distros don't have it O_O
02:55 dcook           Huzzah, just packaged libslack's daemon for openSUSE
02:41 wizzyrea        hi :)
02:40 dcook           Also, hi wizzyrea ^_^
02:38 dcook           Shuldn't be right now either but just wanted to get this one thing done..
02:38 dcook           Haven't worked on koha in a while..
02:38 wizzyrea        :) it happens
02:36 dcook           This code is just a bit behind the times
02:36 dcook           wizzyrea: Yeah, it looks like it's fixed in master
02:36 dcook           The first one was a change to kohastructure.sql that |I made... also a missing comma :p
02:35 wizzyrea        ok then
02:35 dcook           Missing comma
02:35 dcook           Might have been fixed already but looking at it
02:35 dcook           wizzyrea: It's a typo in sysprefs.sql
02:35 wizzyrea        dcook what version of mysql are you trying to install on?
02:31 dcook           Oh, perhaps an error in sysprefs.sql too after all
02:27 * dcook         disappears into the shadows
02:27 dcook           Oh, it might be me who created the error O_O
02:26 dcook           I suppose my kohastructure.sql might not be quite up-to-date but getting a SQL error..
02:26 dcook           Hmm... can master create a new database?
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