Re: [Wikimedia-l] Defamation of Wikipedia in a Telugu (te) Motion Picture

2017-09-26 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hi, Krishna. First of all, this isn't "defamation", which is a precise legal term, that is best not bandied about too lightly. Secondly, Wikipedia is mentioned often in popular media these days, not always in a very factual manner. It is hard to imagine such casual mentions have any significant

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women through the glass ceiling: gender asymmetries in Wikipedia

2017-09-26 Thread James Salsman
For example, whether or not a notable town in in the global south, for instance, has an article is unlikely to affect the quality of life of its residents as much as whether infrastructure businesses in that town have access to credit. If global finance policy makers believe the typical positions

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Defamation of Wikipedia in a Telugu (te) Motion Picture

2017-09-26 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi, On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:15:36 +0530 Krishna Chaitanya Velaga wrote: > Greetings, > > Introducing myself, I am Krishna Chaitanya Velaga from Andhra Pradesh, > India. My user name is "Krishna Chaitanya Velaga", I've been actively > contributing to en Wikipedia and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Defamation of Wikipedia in a Telugu (te) Motion Picture

2017-09-26 Thread Isaac Olatunde
I must agree with Asaf here. Fwiw, this isn't a defamatory and I think legal action should be restricted to serious issues. Regards, Isaac. On Sep 26, 2017 7:09 PM, "Asaf Bartov" wrote: > Hi, Krishna. > > First of all, this isn't "defamation", which is a precise legal

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Defamation of Wikipedia in a Telugu (te) Motion Picture

2017-09-26 Thread Gergő Tisza
It looks like the publisher created a hoax/in-universe article about the main character of the movie, which is what the trailer is referring to: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Undelete=Theda+Singh=20170820143048 Not cool but still not a defamation.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] BLP and the Wikidata / Wikipedia controversy

2017-09-26 Thread Gnangarra
I wonder why a BLP policy wont work on Wikidata, as WD is individual facts that require a source as well, it may not be the same wording as en but the key principles are the same... No project should be scared of policy that stipulates accuracy and sourcing for living people On 17 September 2017

Re: [Wikimedia-l] BLP and the Wikidata / Wikipedia controversy

2017-09-26 Thread Alessandro Marchetti
Personally, I think that if person has an ID on some databases, than it can stay on wikidata. Once in a while some database can be removed if issues are pointed out about their accuracy, but if a database is sound and professional, we should use it to fix an item. it could be the same for a

[Wikimedia-l] BLP and the Wikidata / Wikipedia controversy

2017-09-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There is a lot to do about the current absence of a BLP policy at Wikidata. Many people, particularly those involved in Wikipedia, insist on one and a policy that is a mirror image of their policy. I am opposed to such an approach because it will be detrimental to the best practices in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mailing lists (was Encyclopedic Writing Guide)

2017-09-26 Thread Asaf Bartov
Now {{fixed}}. A. On Sep 26, 2017 18:18, "Michael Snow" wrote: > On 9/26/2017 7:57 AM, Jean-Philippe Béland wrote: > >> Alors nous induisons les lecteurs/trices en erreur avec des pages comme >> celle-ci : >>

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Defamation of Wikipedia in a Telugu (te) Motion Picture

2017-09-26 Thread FRED BAUDER
We should sue Billy the Kid while we are at it. And Hitler... Imagine the bragging he does down in Hell. Fred - Original Message - From: Krishna Chaitanya Velaga To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 11:45:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Research Showcase Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 11:30 AM (PST) 18:30 UTC

2017-09-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There is a responsibility by the people doing massive uploads of data that is full of everything under the sun. Given the scale of these imports "so fix it" is not appropriate. Thanks, GerardM On 19 September 2017 at 07:14, Peter Southwood wrote: > So

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mailing lists (was Encyclopedic Writing Guide)

2017-09-26 Thread Michael Snow
On 9/26/2017 8:22 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: in the same way that say, Wikiversity languishing while Wikidata flourishes should tell us something about the optimum number of projects we can support. Did we figure out this is zero-sum? Because there are some peach projects I'd like to replace

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mailing lists (was Encyclopedic Writing Guide)

2017-09-26 Thread Michael Snow
On 9/26/2017 7:57 AM, Jean-Philippe Béland wrote: Alors nous induisons les lecteurs/trices en erreur avec des pages comme celle-ci : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mailing_lists#Public_mailing_lists JP Oui, c'est bien possible qu'on a des informations dépassé. --Michel Neige

[Wikimedia-l] Defamation of Wikipedia in a Telugu (te) Motion Picture

2017-09-26 Thread Krishna Chaitanya Velaga
Greetings, Introducing myself, I am Krishna Chaitanya Velaga from Andhra Pradesh, India. My user name is "Krishna Chaitanya Velaga", I've been actively contributing to en Wikipedia and Commons since December 2014. I also form the Executive Committee of Wikimedia Chapter (India). My mother tongue

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Encyclopedic Writing Guide

2017-09-26 Thread Samuel Klein
A crosspost to wp-l would be fine. The guide is of wide interest, not only to wikipedians, but to anyone assessing reliable sources, writing neutrally and concisely and for a general audience. W, SJ On Sep 26, 2017 9:35 AM, "Jean-Philippe Béland" wrote: So what is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mailing lists (was Encyclopedic Writing Guide)

2017-09-26 Thread Samuel Klein
in the same way that say, Wikiversity languishing while Wikidata flourishes should tell us something about the optimum number of projects we can support. Did we figure out this is zero-sum? Because there are some peach projects I'd like to replace Wikiquote & Wookiepedia with. \\S

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Encyclopedic Writing Guide

2017-09-26 Thread Jean-Philippe Béland
So what is Wikipedia-l for? It is describe "for issues specific to Wikipedia (and not sister projects such as Wiktionary) but affecting editions of Wikipedia in more than one language". Exactly what you are talking about "content about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Presentation of Wikimédia France new Board members

2017-09-26 Thread Chico Venancio
Dear members of Wikimedia France, The Wikimedia Community User Group Brazil sends its warmest regards and best wishes for the new moment of Wikimedia France that you have shared with us. We have followed the situation with the French community and believe that the General Assembly and the election

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mailing lists (was Encyclopedic Writing Guide)

2017-09-26 Thread Jean-Philippe Béland
Alors nous induisons les lecteurs/trices en erreur avec des pages comme celle-ci : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mailing_lists#Public_mailing_lists JP On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Michael Snow wrote: > On 9/26/2017 6:34 AM, Jean-Philippe Béland wrote: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women through the glass ceiling: gender asymmetries in Wikipedia

2017-09-26 Thread Jean-Philippe Béland
"As biases go, omitting notable subjects in the global south doesn't have the deleterious real-world consequences that reenforcing erroneous economic hegemony does." How so? I don't want to go into politics topics, but with what we see recently we clearly see the danger of thinking "less" of

[Wikimedia-l] Mailing lists (was Encyclopedic Writing Guide)

2017-09-26 Thread Michael Snow
On 9/26/2017 6:34 AM, Jean-Philippe Béland wrote: So what is Wikipedia-l for? It is describe "for issues specific to Wikipedia (and not sister projects such as Wiktionary) but affecting editions of Wikipedia in more than one language".

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Encyclopedic Writing Guide

2017-09-26 Thread Itzik - Wikimedia Israel
Hi Tanweer, At this stage, there is no English version for this guide, but for personal use in order to understand more about it and its structure, you can try using Google Translate: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=iw=en=y=_t=en=UTF-8=https%3A%2F%2Fguide.wikimedia.org.il%2F=

[Wikimedia-l] CentralNotice help for Wikimedia Conference Russia / Oct.14-15

2017-09-26 Thread Фархад Фаткуллин / Farkhad Fatkullin
Hello all, Where can I request experienced user's help with CentralNotice banner for Wikimedia Conference Russia in Moscow, Oct.14-15? At Montreal meeting with WMF staff (James Baldwin, Jaime Villagomez, Winifred Olliff, Stephen LaPorte & Charles M. Roslof), it was said Mr. Joseph Seddon

Re: [Wikimedia-l] CentralNotice help for Wikimedia Conference Russia / Oct.14-15

2017-09-26 Thread Joseph Seddon
All sorted via the Wikipedia Weekly facebook group. Currently on leave and CentralNotice is severely under-resourced with community members (like many community processes in the movement). If there are any members of this list who have skills with building templates and familiar with html and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women through the glass ceiling: gender asymmetries in Wikipedia

2017-09-26 Thread Jane Darnell
I don't think so, but this has interested me. The problem is how to look at the data in such a way that it is meaningful. I tried to break it down a bit and I have presented about the differences in women's occupations across language wikis and gender here:
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