Time  Nick        Message
23:59 * cait      waves
23:59 eythian     hi
23:52 Judit       hi
22:08 rhcl        I sleep quite poorly just about always.
22:08 eythian     I just had a crappy night's sleep really, hoping today mostly involves work I can just zone out and do.
22:05 rhcl        ah, oh, ok
22:05 * eythian   is largely caffiene free :)
22:05 rhcl        :)
22:05 rhcl        well, clearly you need some coffee
22:04 rhcl        ah, oh, ok
22:04 eythian     It's just too early on what is morally a monday for me
22:04 eythian     rhcl: I meant vim tutorial :)
22:03 rhcl        eythian: which git tutorial? This one (calls itself the "official" tutorial)??    http://git-scm.com/documentation
21:58 eythian     libsysguy_gym: you should run through the git tutorial, it's a good place to start.
21:58 libsysguy   later
21:58 libsysguy   haha slef ftw
21:57 slef        ttyl
21:57 slef        bah, just pkill -9 vi from another terminal
21:57 libsysguy   ok gotta run…talk to you guys later/tomorrow
21:57 libsysguy   :q ftw
21:56 slef        :q!
21:56 slef        I'm typing this in Emacs, actually.
21:56 libsysguy   the only thing i am good at doing in VI is :q
21:56 libsysguy   seems like everybody uses VI
21:56 slef        I'm an agnostic... Emacs, vi, ed, Wily, jed, nano...
21:56 libsysguy   YAYY!!! im not the only one
21:56 slef        sometimes, but I'm a heavy emacs use
21:55 sekjal      night, all!
21:55 libsysguy   yes I do…are you a VI user?
21:53 slef        libsysguy: seriously, do you use Emacs?
21:53 slef        libsysguy: git-blame-mode FTW!
21:49 * libsysguy uses git like my own personal undo button
21:44 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 9.2�C (11:43 PM CEST on October 24, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 28.44 in 963.0 hPa (Steady).
21:44 cait        @wunder Reutlingen
21:44 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 7.3�C (11:39 PM CEST on October 24, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007.3 hPa (Steady).
21:44 cait        @wunder Konstanz
21:44 libsysguy   i kidd
21:44 * libsysguy thinks if everybody just used emacs (a superior text editor) we wouldn't have this issue :p
21:44 sekjal      would be easy enough to clean up in vi, I tink
21:43 libsysguy   i figured paul wouldn't push it since he was the rm if it had those changes
21:43 sekjal      I'm not too worried about whitespace changes
21:43 libsysguy   yeah
21:43 sekjal      the shelving location XSLT mod?
21:42 libsysguy   sekjal…is that acceptable to do i need to go back and redo all the work in a fresh checkout of that file
21:42 libsysguy   cait I think i got it figured out
21:41 sekjal      libsysguy:  yes
21:41 libsysguy   the one to exclude white space when pulling with git
21:41 slef        sorry I'm not going to get too involved. I'm still trying to finish work :)
21:41 libsysguy   did you see that commentI added to my shelving location ticket ?
21:41 cait        me neither
21:41 libsysguy   sekjal
21:41 libsysguy   oh oh
21:41 libsysguy   haha
21:40 * sekjal    just doesn't want to see changes in any of the .po files when doing a git-diff
21:40 cait        slef: messy situaton I thinmk
21:40 libsysguy   yeah cherrypicking is a pain imo
21:40 slef        cait: sounds like a mess
21:40 cait        messing with the po files
21:40 cait        until you get to the commit
21:40 cait        and cherry pick the commits over
21:40 slef        ah, sekjal fibs ;-)
21:40 cait        from master
21:40 cait        start fresh
21:40 slef        git checkout is the way
21:40 cait        you could
21:40 libsysguy   I remember Ian wanted me to remove them
21:40 cait        hm
21:40 libsysguy   cait yeah they weren't there
21:39 libsysguy   later
21:39 eythian     off to a meeting now
21:39 libsysguy   yeah that is probably whats happening eythian
21:39 eythian     hi.
21:39 cait        hey eythian :)
21:39 eythian     or whatever branch it is you're dealing with
21:39 cait        eythian's idea sounds good
21:39 cait        or because you  haven't used git?
21:39 eythian     I'd do git checkout kc/master -- file1.po file2.po etc.
21:39 cait        probably
21:39 cait        because they are not there
21:39 libsysguy   still got a conflict
21:39 eythian     I think usually I see it when working on forked branches and trying to move from one to the other
21:39 libsysguy   then ran a merge
21:39 libsysguy   well here is the odd part…i ran the remove bit that slef gave me
21:38 eythian     I've seen that sort of conflict happen before, never entirely sure where it comes from.
21:38 libsysguy   maybe?
21:37 cait        it's probably not your last commit that added them?
21:37 cait        not sure what to do
21:37 cait        hm
21:36 * libsysguy imagines failure
21:36 * libsysguy imagines trying to translate
21:36 libsysguy   thats true…i didn't change them
21:35 cait        only that you have changes in them is surprising
21:35 cait        that's not surprising
21:35 cait        conflict
21:35 cait        so they should confligt
21:35 cait        they have been updated
21:35 cait        no
21:35 cait        ehhe
21:35 libsysguy   yeah i know…I would have expected conflicts from anything but the .po files
21:35 cait        and how the po files got involved in the first place
21:35 cait        not sure what's going on there
21:35 cait        hmm
21:33 libsysguy   it had issues
21:33 libsysguy   but when i went to merge with hourly
21:33 libsysguy   well on my master branch it pulled fine
21:33 cait        couldn't you do a checkout from master?
21:32 cait        instead of delete
21:32 cait        hm
21:32 libsysguy   so i figured i would just delete them and repull
21:32 cait        in the po files?
21:32 libsysguy   well i am getting conflicts when i update to master
21:32 cait        more you want them to remove from your patch?
21:32 cait        libsysguy: not sure you want to delete them really
21:31 libsysguy   i knew i had run something similar to that before but I just couldn't remember where it found it
21:31 libsysguy   thanks slef
21:30 slef        hope that helps
21:30 slef        using only find is a little wasteful on processes
21:29 slef        or: find -name '*.po' -print0 | xargs -0 rm
21:29 slef        find -name '*.po' -exec rm -v '{}' ';'
21:29 slef        but really you want
21:29 slef        leave the second * off
21:27 libsysguy   to no avail
21:27 libsysguy   i tried find -name *.po | xargs rm *
21:27 libsysguy   what could I do
21:26 libsysguy   if I wanted to delete all the .po files
21:13 cait        lol
21:12 libsysguy   man who would have thought the old saying "never take cookies from strangers" would still apply on the internet
21:11 libsysguy   ^^ heh
21:11 slef        I think you should only accept cookies for the current session.
21:11 wizzyrea    finally getting better now
21:11 wizzyrea    ah thanks :) I'll live though
21:11 * cait      offers wizzyrea cookies
21:11 * libsysguy offers wizzyrea soup
21:10 libsysguy   poor wizzyrea
21:10 libsysguy   aww but you missed us cait?
21:10 wizzyrea    haven't much felt like doing anything
21:10 libsysguy   geez everybody has been gone
21:10 cait        so not supposed to be here... I guess...
21:10 wizzyrea    it's ok, I've been sick for days now
21:10 cait        I am on vacation
21:09 libsysguy   i do feel disconnected…you guys are awesome :D
21:09 wizzyrea    maybe you just FEEL disconnected :)
21:09 libsysguy   oh…you said hi yesterday right
21:08 libsysguy   i don't think so
21:08 cait        you haven't?
21:08 cait        yes?
21:08 libsysguy   i haven't talked to you in forever :)
21:08 libsysguy   cait!!
21:08 cait        hi libsysguy :)
21:06 libsysguy   hey #koha
20:38 wizzyrea    for real this time.
20:38 huginn      New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7084] New Tag on results display missing results_summary class, causing display inconsistency <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7084>
20:26 cait        did you try searching there?
20:26 cait        what happens here is that my title search on the histsearch.pl page does not work (click on advancedsearch on top of acq)
20:25 cait        nicole: still around?
20:16 cait        thx for testing :)
20:16 cait        I will try adding more orders
20:15 nengard     i have a lot in acq maybe that's why?
20:15 nengard     i get results ? with the date range the way you said
20:15 cait        wonder if I hit an edge case
20:15 cait        I have only one record in acq so far
20:15 cait        weird!
20:15 nengard     cait title and author works - will try date
20:15 cait        I can receive it, so it is there...
20:14 cait        and got no results
20:14 cait        and a word from the title
20:14 cait        I tried a date search from before today to the future
20:14 cait        thx!
20:14 cait        oh hi nengard
20:14 cait        I wonders what's wrong
20:14 nengard     cait i'll search
20:14 cait        no errors in the logs
20:14 cait        hm ok
20:14 oleonard    Sorry, my database doesn't have anything in acquisitions at the moment
20:13 cait        and tell me if you find something?
20:13 cait        could you try a search for orders in acq?
20:13 cait        oleonard: as you are here...
20:03 oleonard    [off] Now that Koha is at 3.6, should we expect a release of Liblime Koha 5.4?
19:38 cait        I never get results there :(
19:38 cait        someone around who can test order search in acq on 3.6?
19:38 cait        hm
19:20 huginn      New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6994] 'No budget defined' showing up although budgets and funds are defined <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6994>
19:16 Danielle    On the plus side, it's the sort of place that everyone agrees they'd jump at the opportunity if it came their way, so... :)
19:14 Danielle    Also made my manager's day that much more interesting by telling him that I'm leaving.
19:14 wizzyrea    ew
19:14 Danielle    wizzyrea: My sympathies, really. I walked in to have the fun of dealing with a jboss issue.
19:14 wizzyrea    hehe
19:13 wizzyrea    meep?
19:13 wizzyrea    mee?
19:12 cait        wizzyrea kohadevsnack cookies
19:12 cait        hm
19:12 cait        wizzyreal kohadevsnack cookies
19:12 Danielle    wizzyrea: Meep?
19:12 Danielle    \o
19:01 wizzyrea    christ. This is what I get for trying to do anything on a monday.
18:44 huginn      New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7084] New Tag on results display missing results_summary class, causing display inconsistency <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7084>
18:44 wizzyrea    lol, ok.
18:39 Oak         stupid
18:38 Oak         will stop now
18:38 Oak         it *is* green
18:38 Oak         well, not greenish,
18:38 Oak         so may look good
18:38 Oak         plus the Cart button is also greenish
18:36 Oak         talking about http://catalog-test.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=Alex+Rider&limit=#
18:36 Oak         hover color for the horizontal navigation buttons on top-left could be this: #A7DA47
18:26 wizzyrea    uh huh
18:26 slef        copy-paste error :)
18:26 wizzyrea    lol!
18:25 slef        [off] from the newint.org UK xmas gift catalogue: "Ultra-thin Fairtrade Condoms ... An unusual and eye-catching fairly traded decoration that can be twisted round banisters or beh heads, bringing summer warmth to any season. Made with 6 bright felt flowers and twistable wire. Not to beused as a toy. Approximate length: 100cm."
18:02 trea        hi cait
18:01 cait        hi trea :)
17:59 cait        inconsistencies--
17:54 wizzyrea    I see, Tags has a span, but New tag does not
17:53 wahanui     thanks wizzyrea :)
17:53 wizzyrea    wahanui botsnack cookie
17:52 wahanui     rumour has it interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good
17:52 wizzyrea    interesting.
17:52 wizzyrea    the smaller ones have tags already
17:52 wizzyrea    asking the question then seeing the problem ftw
17:52 wizzyrea    OH
17:52 wizzyrea    http://screencast.com/t/hnt15kpS7SH9
17:51 wizzyrea    but there was cider and kettle corn
17:51 wizzyrea    very dusty
17:51 * wizzyrea  went to the pumpkin patch this weekend too
17:50 sekjal      pumpkins are in a bit of short supply this year, due to Hurricane Irene
17:50 wizzyrea    oh, sec log in/out derr
17:50 slef        Danielle: I'm off to play on Wednesday.
17:50 wizzyrea    well the add button
17:50 wizzyrea    yea
17:50 oleonard    wizzyrea: The "log in to add tags" text?
17:49 cait        very pretty!
17:49 slef        there was a clip on our news of somewhere in the US just tipping a massive pumpkin on the floor from a forklift 4m-or-so up
17:49 wizzyrea    but I can't for the life of me figure out what it is
17:49 wizzyrea    i'm sure it's something I've done
17:48 wizzyrea    sorry, link first
17:48 wizzyrea    http://catalog-test.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=Alex+Rider&limit=
17:48 wizzyrea    oleonard: i'm bewildered, why is the Add text bigger on some of those buttons?
17:47 Oak         good times
17:47 sekjal      lots of food vendors, and music and other performances
17:47 sekjal      cait:  yes, a little town up the road was holding one.  everyone brings their carved Halloween Jack o'Lanterns and puts them out on the street for everyone to see
17:46 Oak         that sounds like fun!
17:46 cait        pumkin festival?
17:46 sekjal      it was much fun
17:46 sekjal      Oak:  I took a break over the weekend, went to a local Pumpkin Festival
17:46 Danielle    All work and no play makes a dull slef.
17:46 Oak         :) hm
17:45 slef        Oak: heh. too much to do
17:45 Oak         have a drink
17:45 Oak         take a break guys
17:45 Oak         sekjal++ slef++ cait++
17:38 slef        I tend to ignore people who don't bother to write easy-to-read emails, figuring it's not usually worth trying to understand badly-written stuff.
17:37 slef        maybe I've just been ignoring you recently
17:35 sekjal      I'm not aware of any recent changes, but I can be sure to trim better for future posts
17:35 sekjal      slef: on list?
17:34 slef        sekjal: is there a reason for your suddent outbreak of Top Post Whole Quote?
17:30 sekjal      I've got proposals I need to write up and send to the community
17:29 sekjal      we need to update the docs on how to submit fixes/enhancements
17:29 cait        all that are new and not assigend
17:29 cait        slef: perhaps we could move them all to seek developer?
17:27 slef        would need to update the enh-howto though
17:26 slef        Isn't there a RESOLVED LATER or REMIND?
17:22 cait        we encourage people to use it for ideas and enhancement requests - so we should not close them
17:22 cait        and there are lots of good ideas floating in bugzilla
17:21 cait        they stop showing up
17:21 cait        and I agree about not closing bugs
17:21 cait        some bug fixing today :)
17:21 cait        opposite for me - lots of testing the weeks before
17:19 sekjal      very different taste to the work
17:19 sekjal      last week was manic coding; this week is all discussion and communications
17:18 sekjal      I'm trying to keep up with the flurry of emails/discussions today
17:17 sekjal      slef:  yes, I am QAM for 3.8
17:17 slef        sekjal: are you still QAM? If so, I gave you an in
17:17 slef        oleonard: strange :-/
17:17 sekjal      the more that are open, the more likely it is someone can find a report (and any discussion about it) before they go and submit a duplicate
17:13 oleonard    Numbers aside, I agree that closing enhancement bugs which are without activity is a bad idea
17:12 oleonard    Severity: enhancement, Status: NEW, ASSIGNED, REOPENED, Days since bug changed: (is greater than or equal to) 270
17:11 * oleonard  gets 307
17:10 slef        which really isn't "a large part"
17:10 slef        yeah, but if you look for those untouched more than 270 days, you get 40ish
17:08 oleonard    slef: If you look for /any/ enhancements, without any other limits, you should get 921.
17:07 slef        oleonard: yeah. I've saved a stalled-enh search. I'm mailing koha-devel now.
17:06 oleonard    slef: What's the question? Why paul got more results?
16:55 huginn      New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4161] When adding Vendor default to active currencies <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4161>
16:55 slef        hrm
16:54 paul_p      slef: sorry, I must leave *now* you can catch me here if you want tomorrow
16:52 slef        hi - can someone help me replicate paul_p's search? I think there are 5 enh bugs seeking cosponsors untouched for more than 9 months.
16:01 huginn      New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7083] Show creator name on list of public lists <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7083>
15:48 cait        thx for checking owen :(
15:48 cait        have to commit... before switching to master
15:48 cait        it
15:48 cait        I see how I broke
15:48 cait        oh
15:48 oleonard    On edit and summary
15:47 cait        because summary works for me, but not edit
15:47 cait        hm on summary and edit?
15:46 oleonard    cait: Yes, the correct currency is shown
15:41 cait        create new vendor - choose different currencies - edit vendor - check if correct currencies are shown
15:41 cait        or seeing things that are not really there to be more specific :)
15:41 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5763 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add users private list management functionality for administrators
15:41 oleonard    Bug 5763 is actually specific to *private* lists.
15:41 cait        because I think now I am going insane
15:40 cait        can someone check something for me?
15:40 oleonard    wizzyrea: Yeah, only I can't figure out when it happened. Maybe ages ago and I never noticed.
15:40 cait        I am still trying to preselect the active currency when creating a new vendor
15:40 cait        :(
15:40 cait        I don't get this to work
15:36 wizzyrea    a mystery fix eh
15:34 wizzyrea    ^.^
15:34 wizzyrea    hey I didn't know I could do that!
15:34 wizzyrea    while I was working on the nexpress facelift.
15:34 wizzyrea    i actually noted that this morning
15:33 wizzyrea    lol
15:33 oleonard    Turns out there's code to specifically allow it for superlibrarians, but it apparently wasn't working and now is. :P
15:33 oleonard    So wizzyrea, remember how I was saying I could now edit/delete other patrons' public lists?
15:30 wizzyrea    morning
15:30 oleonard    Same as you. Hopefully next year.
15:30 cait        oleonard: what about you?
15:24 reiveune    bye
15:20 cait        I am sure I am doing something quite stupid there
15:20 cait        perl errors *sighs*
15:20 cait        but hopefully to scotland
15:19 cait        no, not this year
15:19 oleonard    cait are you going to KohaCon?
15:11 druthb      o/
14:55 rhcl        does perl have a "uniq" command like *nix?
14:51 rhcl        http://www.more.net/content/conferences
14:51 rhcl        Call for presentations everybody - good, targeted audience and comparatively inexpensive venue....
14:47 cait        not sure then
14:47 cait        oh
14:46 oleonard    But it does seem to be working. I can edit others' lists as a superlibrarian but not as a regular staff user
14:46 cait        and some things don't work if you have more than the superlibrarian flags
14:46 cait        the flag thing seems to be broken
14:46 cait        or sekjal's way to check for superlibrarian to be exact :)
14:46 cait        from the basket permission bug
14:46 cait        you could copy my check
14:46 cait        i think that will not work
14:46 cait        hm
14:45 oleonard    that line was changed back in 2008, but the bug report was filed this year. What changed to make that work?
14:45 oleonard    I found this in VirtualShelves.pm (related by my bug): return 1 if (($category >= 2) and defined($user) and ($borrower->{authflags}->{superlibrarian} || $user == 0));	# public list, superlibrarian can edit/delete
14:43 oleonard    Something like line 124 of MARCdetail.pl?
14:41 cait        hm. can you think of an example where I could copy from? about preselecting a value?
14:41 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4161 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , When adding Vendor default to active currencies
14:41 cait        oleonard: I am looking at bug 4161
14:39 cait        there was some discussion about how to check correctly for superlibrarian rights
14:39 cait        oleonard: I am not sure
14:37 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5763 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add users private list management functionality for administrators
14:37 oleonard    Bug 5763 has been fixed by chance?
14:37 cait        ok, my mistake, ignore that
14:36 cait        I added a fund, added a budget... and now I can't edit my budget, although it belongs to my library :(
14:35 cait        oho
14:35 cait        there was a bug for superlibrarians not being able to do that
14:34 cait        hm
14:30 oleonard    I thought maybe the null owner was the reason I'm now able to edit/delete other people's lists in the staff client, but it doesn't seem to be the case.
14:27 gmcharlt    rhcl: pong
14:27 huginn      rhcl: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 4 days, 19 hours, 31 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> @arewethereyet
14:27 rhcl        @seen gmcharlt
14:23 oleonard    Weird, now I can't reproduce it either
14:21 cait        oh
14:18 oleonard    Just hid it in the OPAC I think
14:17 cait        did we kill that feature?
14:17 cait        open doesn't show up for me
14:17 cait        oh
14:17 cait        I will try that
14:16 cait        open list?
14:16 cait        hm
14:16 oleonard    Definitely not root login
14:16 cait        oleonard: it worked for me
14:16 cait        oleonard: perhaps someone with root login?
14:15 * oleonard  finds 10 entries in his production database which have a null owner
14:15 Oak         cait++
14:14 huginn      New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7082] Template improvements for better translatability <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7082>
14:14 cait        oleonard: I am on it
14:14 cait        oleonard++ for being so busy improving things right after the release :)
14:14 oleonard    Could someone check something for me? Create a new list in the OPAC and check to see if the virtualshelves table has stored something in the owner column?
14:05 magnus_afk  cait++
14:05 cait        I am removing it and sending a patch
14:05 cait        not in my eyes
14:05 cait        no
14:04 oleonard    Is the <br /> necessary?
14:04 cait        and they don't follow each othr in the po files (of course)
14:04 cait        is hard
14:04 cait        oleonard: and this makes it evil, because separately translating Show my and funds only
14:04 cait        oleonard: the line break make it 2 separate strings...
14:00 * oleonard  assumes this is for a reason other than it is in German, which is the reason for him.
13:58 cait        this translaiton makes absolutely no sense :(
13:58 cait        <label for="show_mine">Meine anzeigen<br /> Nur Konten</label>
13:58 cait        hmpf
13:54 * oleonard  will brb
13:53 maximep     avaliable? :p
13:52 sekjal      thanks, cait!
13:51 magnuse     poking++
13:51 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6427 enhancement, P5, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Rewrite of the accounts system
13:51 cait        bug 6427
13:50 cait        I poked robin until he wrote one
13:50 cait        yes there is
13:49 sekjal      oleonard:  checking
13:48 oleonard    sekjal: Is there a bug for the accounts rewrite?
13:47 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7081 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Remove notify id and level from fines in patron account
13:47 cait        oleonard: bug 7081
13:47 cait        koha++ :)
13:46 magnuse     koha++
13:46 maximep     koha 3.6 :D. Congrats to everyone!
13:43 oleonard    Sure
13:42 cait        ok if I make it templates for now?
13:42 cait        filing bug now
13:42 cait        same idea :)
13:42 cait        hehe
13:41 cait        oleonard: i will file a bug for those 2 columns, perhaps it will stir up some discussion
13:41 oleonard    You could always frame the bug as "Remove unused notify id and level columns from pay.pl" and see what bubbles up from there
13:41 cait        hm, screen frozen
13:40 cait        remove code for .... notify something? hehe
13:40 cait        how do I call it?
13:40 oleonard    I think so
13:40 cait        perhaps open a new bug?
13:40 cait        hm
13:40 oleonard    No, it's empty
13:39 cait        does your database have something in there?
13:38 cait        no content there for me
13:38 cait        notifys in the database
13:38 cait        we also have tables
13:38 oleonard    :(
13:38 cait        there is also other code for that, but I have never seen any content in there
13:38 cait        iirc they belonged to a fine system that is broken now
13:38 cait        I had talked to rangi about them a longe rwhile back
13:37 oleonard    I didn't know enough about those columns to know whether they should be touched or not
13:37 cait        oleonard: and lists is a good idea
13:36 cait        I get questions about those columns... one of the reports also has them
13:36 cait        afaik they are unused
13:36 cait        perhaps we could delete notify id and level?
13:36 cait        oleonard: I was looking at your screenshots for paying fines
13:33 oleonard    I wonder how many other places there where we should check deletions of staff members? Lists, for instance.
13:33 huginn      New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7080] Clean up interface on fine payment screens <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7080>
13:19 cait        oh wb paul
13:19 cait        you want to delete this borrower? who is going to inherit things?
13:19 cait        when deleting a staff member - there should be an alert and an option to reassign
13:19 cait        perhaps
13:19 cait        hm
13:18 cait        we only have to think what do to with them - and in other places in the system too
13:18 cait        I thik your solution i sok
13:18 sekjal      but for that to fix this bug, we'd need to add borrowernumber ==0 support to GetMember
13:18 sekjal      not a bad idea
13:17 cait        and perhaps even assign a new owner
13:17 cait        so that superlibrarians can see them
13:17 cait        sekjal: perhaps we should not 'NULL' but 0 the orphaned baskets
13:12 sekjal      not that I know of
13:11 cait        and we have no 3.6.x branch yet, right?
13:11 cait        :(
13:11 huginn      New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7079] Default values for German system preferences (web installer) <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7079>
13:11 sekjal      and my source code shows that it's not patched (fresh git pull as of right now)
13:10 sekjal      I'm replying to someone on-list about it
13:10 sekjal      me, too
13:10 cait        I thought it did
13:10 cait        ooh!
13:10 sekjal      it looks like it didn't make it into 3.6
13:10 cait        I wanted to dive into acq testing next
13:10 cait        I think it was a folloow up on the original bug
13:09 sekjal      cait: do you recall the bug where vendor search was broken if a basket was authorisedby a deleted borrower?
13:07 * oleonard  isn't sure what he's accepting bribes to do
13:06 * oleonard  accepts bribes of chocolate-covered espresso beans
13:03 * chris_n   accepts bribes of coffee and chocolate ;-)
12:58 sekjal      hi, cait!
12:58 cait        hi sekjal :)
12:58 oleonard    Or did chris_n already lose his chance to back out? ;)
12:57 cait        oleonard: so continue, I will supply cookies
12:57 cait        paul_p: I am not sure about closing bugs - they fall off the edge if you do that - from all searches. and we have also libraires logging enhancement requests. I would like to keep them. perhaps we can work with 'searching developer' or a similar status
12:57 oleonard    I don't know cait, I was just buttering him up a little for it
12:56 cait        and perhaps even 3.6 release maintainer?
12:56 cait        hehe
12:55 oleonard    Is that the talented young 3.4.x release maintainer I just saw come in?
12:54 francharb   hi chris_n
12:53 francharb   thanks cait
12:53 francharb   anyway, i was just checking to know if somebody had already use it...
12:52 francharb   but i dont know where it came from
12:52 francharb   i got a number
12:52 francharb   i tested it
12:52 francharb   hehe
12:52 francharb   ah ok
12:52 cait        trial and error = test it to find out
12:52 francharb   i tried
12:51 cait        only guessing
12:51 cait        ?
12:51 cait        or click on the ...
12:51 cait        perhaps you have to write the prefix in the field and save?
12:51 francharb   no error
12:51 cait        trial and error?
12:51 cait        hm
12:51 francharb   but then, i don"t know if there is a pop up that should open up
12:50 francharb   so obviously, i need to map the subflied with itemcallnumber
12:50 francharb   i think it's referring to items.itemcallnumber
12:50 cait        perhaps it's referring to that?
12:50 cait        in the bilbiographic frameworks
12:50 cait        for something like a prefix
12:49 cait        there is a 9xx i think
12:49 francharb   it's pretty much the same
12:49 cait        hm
12:48 francharb   during cataloguing the item
12:48 francharb   depending on which prefixe you specified
12:48 francharb   that it calculates a number
12:47 francharb   where it says
12:47 francharb   well, the beginning
12:47 francharb   i read the code of callnumber.pl
12:47 cait        there is a newer plugin for stocknumber - I think it's supposed to take a prefix and count upwards from that
12:47 francharb   cait:
12:47 francharb   and neither do i but one of the library i 'm working with want to know and i can't find out
12:47 cait        what is it supposed to do?
12:47 cait        I think there is no place where you can define prefixes
12:46 francharb   yes
12:46 cait        a plugin for cataloging?
12:46 cait        hm never used it really
12:45 francharb   do i need to define the prefixes somewhere?
12:45 francharb   anyone knows how does callnumber.pl work?
12:36 paul_p      oleonard: maybe you're right. I'm collecting all ideas/changes/inconsistencies for bugzilla, to discuss of them, i add this one ;-)
12:36 cait        hi francharb :)
12:35 francharb   hi all
12:35 * oleonard  has always been confused by the usage of rel_x_x vs. master when the two are seemingly the same
12:34 cait        oleonard: hm you are perhaps right, more important after the release for things that went in
12:25 oleonard    Why update bugs to say "rel_3_8" instead of "master" ? Is the distinction important?
11:58 Oak         bug*
11:58 Oak         got it
11:58 cait        but wrangling
11:58 Oak         what did he do? paul i mean
11:57 Oak         paul_p++
11:56 * jcamins   starts his day.
11:56 cait        paul_p++
11:56 Oak         :-]
11:56 cait        :)
11:56 Oak         yup, lovin' it
11:55 cait        and still liking it?
11:55 cait        wb Oak
11:55 Oak         magnuse
11:55 magnuse     Oak
11:55 magnuse     paul_p++
11:55 cait        ok
11:54 paul_p      cait: writing a mail to koha-devel to explain : * all ENH that are "needs signoff" and/or "signed off" have been switched to Rel_3_8 version.
11:53 cait        so I can delete? :)
11:53 cait        paul_p: all those mails are going to 3.8?
11:48 cait        k
11:48 paul_p      cait: yep
11:48 cait        paul_p: I plan on acq testing today - ok if I mark things closed that are in release now instead of resolved fixed?
11:42 paul_p      jcamins: lol. Don't you know "bulk change" feature un bugzilla ?
11:42 jcamins     paul_p: wow, you sure type fast!
09:56 cait        oh
09:55 Oak         time for electricity to go...
09:55 Oak         hello cait. City of Glass finished. :)
09:54 Oak         yes not too hot indeed.
09:54 Oak         magnuse :)
09:46 cait        hi kivilahtio and asaurat :)
09:46 wahanui     hola, asaurat
09:46 asaurat     hi
09:46 cait        :)
09:46 cait        hi magnuse :
09:43 magnuse     guten tag cait
09:42 kivilahtio  hi cait
09:42 cait        hi #koha
08:56 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0�C (10:20 AM CEST on October 24, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
08:56 magnuse     @wunder boo
08:56 magnuse     ooh, not too hot?
08:55 huginn      Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 24.0�C (1:00 PM PKT on October 24, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
08:55 Oak         @wunder islamabad
08:05 kmkale      Namaskaar #koha
07:38 alex_a      lol
07:37 paul_p      alex_a: right. Even if, at this time, it's the 4th or 5th ...
07:37 alex_a      paul_p: I think kiwis still enjoy their third half-time
07:28 paul_p      any kiwi around ? (wanting to speak about Rugby)
07:28 paul_p      hi magnuse. The final was really a great match, and, looking at the whole competition, NZ should win.
07:23 magnuse     kia ora paul_p - and congrats on your new title (but not on the rugby, i guess ;-)
07:18 paul_p      others : hello
07:18 paul_p      rangi: hello & congrats (twice)
07:16 huginn      magnuse: YES!
07:16 magnuse     @arewethereyet
07:06 francharb   hello everyone
06:54 magnuse     bonjour
06:50 reiveune    hello
06:32 huginn      New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7001] User Configurable Slips <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7001>
06:16 alex_a      hi #koha
06:14 Oak         guess not what?
06:14 Oak         \o
01:21 cait        :)
00:52 * Danielle  suspects having a drink didn't hurt. ;)
00:52 Danielle    Great! Just had a girls' night out that I badly needed.
00:50 cait        i am good - how are you?
00:48 Danielle    How are you, cait?
00:47 cait        hi Danielle
00:46 Danielle    o/
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