„Wikipédia-vita:Konzultáció a vitalapokról és a közösségi kommunikációról” változatai közötti eltérés

Címke: 2017-es forrásszöveg-szerkesztő
(→‎Last call: Válasz)
Címkék: válasz Vizuális
:::The help panel is not opt-in for new contributors. But you can just scroll the page, so I don't think this is much of an issue in practice. Also, new contributors are unlikely to have DiscussionTools enabled (which is a shame, IMO - the tool would be a big help to them even as it is now). [[User:Tgr|Tgr]]<sup>[[User vita:Tgr|vita]]</sup> 2020. június 13., 18:27 (CEST)
::::Samat, those screenshots look like a very big problem. Assuming editors here like it as much as I do, then at some point, it is likely to be enabled for all editors. At that point, this will be a significant problem for the newer editors. Maybe it doesn't need to be fixed today, but it needs to be fixed. I've added a link to [[phab:T219966]] to show how that problem is affecting this tool. [[Szerkesztő:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]] <sup>[[Szerkesztővita:Whatamidoing (WMF)|vita]]</sup> 2020. június 13., 23:47 (CEST)
:@[[Szerkesztő:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]] IMO it is a clear improvement. There are some things I miss, but that's not a reason to delay rolling out existing improvements:
:* It would be nice to get a reminder to ping the person who you are replying to (mainly for the benefit of new users, who probably expect that to happen automatically, and the placeholder text further reinforces that impression).
:* The tool does not work on transcluded subpages (see e.g. [[Wikipédia:Tudakozó]]). I think that would be a good selling point for experienced users. At the very least, the error message could be clearer.
:* I have to switch to source mode to enter templates (which are not used in a typical discussion, but used a lot in deletion discussions for example). Source mode might be the easier way to enter simple templates anyway, but a keyboard shortcut for switching would be nice. (Extra credit if the cursor position can be preserved.)
:* As others have noted, the wikitext generated by the @-tool is a bit awkward.
: [[User:Tgr|Tgr]]<sup>[[User vita:Tgr|vita]]</sup> 2020. június 14., 11:03 (CEST)
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