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Why are people who can't be bothered to register allowed to post or start new threads?


scottie1113 Activity: 7 / 902
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16 Sep 2011  #1

Mods?

pawian Activity: 127 / 6,582
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16 Sep 2011  #2

Because shy/reserved guys should have the same rights as forward ones?
Vincent Activity: 9 / 813
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17 Sep 2011  #3

Just because people don't register, doesn't mean they're not useful in providing information to other members. Many guests have helped in the genealogy, ancestry forum, the language forum, history forum and other forums about Poland.

Many are just passing through, and provide good information in certain threads, and some become members in the near future. It can also be said that a few are just trolls who come here to flame others but the same can be said about a few members who have already registered.
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17 Sep 2011  #4

Fair enough. Thanks for the answer.
Sidliste_Chodov Activity: 1 / 442
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17 Sep 2011  #5

Many are just passing through, and provide good information in certain threads, and some become members in the near future. It can also be said that a few are just trolls who come here to flame others but the same can be said about a few members who have already registered.

But at least you can ban the members who cause trouble, you can't do that to guests unless you block their IP as well. And that doesn't always work, because of dynamic IP addressing.
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19 Sep 2011  #6

Registered members can and do post trouble too. In general, Vincent's reply above is how we feel it should be done on PF.
teflcat Activity: 5 / 1,037
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19 Sep 2011  #7

I asked the same question when I registered. An old hand suggested that it was because Admin made money from google ads. Any truth in that, Admin? Or doesn't google care how many hits you get? Don't get me wrong, good luck to you, but if only registered members were allowed to post, it would stop at least some of the crap.
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19 Sep 2011  #8

Don't get me wrong, good luck to you, but if only registered members were allowed to post, it would stop at least some of the crap.

There are too many valuable posts made by non-registered members (for some reason they don't want to register) that we still allow them to posts. Besides, there are classified sections and it doesn't make sense for posters to register just to post one classified ad and never appear here again.
Sidliste_Chodov Activity: 1 / 442
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19 Sep 2011  #9

it doesn't make sense for posters to register just to post one classified ad and never appear here again.

It hardly makes sense for "guests" to be allowed to post once, disrupt the forum, and never appear again (under a particular username, that is - who knows how often they return under another "guest" username) but you still allow it ;)
teflcat Activity: 5 / 1,037
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19 Sep 2011  #10

I still think it might be about filthy lucre. I asked about it but my question was neatly sidestepped by our illustrious leader.
Sidliste_Chodov Activity: 1 / 442
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19 Sep 2011  #11

I've never seen an advert on here.

Adblock Plus FTW :)

illustrious leader.

You know something, I'm surprised we don't have a Stalinist image of him waving to us instead of that image in the top left corner... lol. I wonder if they accept bony towarowe if you become a "Gold member"? haha
Harry Activity: 65 / 13,518
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19 Sep 2013  #12

Merged: Trolling by unregistered users

Am I just imagining it, or are we getting more and more trolling from unregistered users? Most of the posts by and threads started by unregistered users seem to be being made by either banned users or users who operate via a legion of usernames.

Can anything be done about this? Will anything be done about this? Or do we have to just sit back and watch a potentially very useful and helpful forum be destroyed by a handful of determined (mainly racist) trolls?
4 eigner Activity: 2 / 901
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19 Sep 2013  #13

I kinda agree with you here. Guests shouldn't be allowed to start new threads.
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19 Sep 2013  #14

Registered users start trolling threads too and some of the best threads have been started by unregistered users (who also can be banned if needed). So there's no clear connection on the quality of posts based on the registration status.
Harry Activity: 65 / 13,518
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19 Sep 2013  #15

Have you seen this thread? polishforums.com/life/public-masturbation-n ow-allowed-sweden-work-poland-68169/
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19 Sep 2013  #16

Yes. The question is still legitimate for some groups of people. But since this user appears to have used more than 1 username (which is not allowed), his other usernames have been added to that thread.
Harry Activity: 65 / 13,518
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19 Sep 2013  #17

But since this user appears to have used more than 1 username (which is not allowed), his other usernames have been added to that thread.

Is it possible to limit an IP address to a single username?
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19 Sep 2013  #18

No; one IP may be shared even by thousands of people.
Harry Activity: 65 / 13,518
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19 Sep 2013  #19

Yes, but probably not within the span of a few minutes.
4 eigner Activity: 2 / 901
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19 Sep 2013  #20

But since this user appears to have used more than 1 username (which is not allowed), his other usernames have been added to that thread.

so Chris_Bradbury =HerbertFountain =jon357 right, admin?
smurf Activity: 40 / 2,038
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19 Sep 2013  #21

thousands of people.

lol

Yea, PF has 1000s and 1000s of posters.
Most forums worth their salt will ban trolls who use the same IP address, why can't ye?

I'm not saying ban people with the same IP, but it's pretty easy to ban trolls with the same IP.
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19 Sep 2013  #22

lol

Username is different than IP. It's possible that one poster (troll) shares the same IP with another legitimate poster. So blocking one IP we may block the innocent posters too (which we prefer to avoid). Still, we do block IPs when needed.
jon357 Activity: 53 / 10,847
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20 Sep 2013  #23

right,

Wrong.
1jola Activity: 14 / 1,898
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20 Sep 2013  #24

Right, Harry, I know you by at least three user names. One classic one: PolishTraitor.
Harry Activity: 65 / 13,518
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20 Sep 2013  #25

^ Yep: one at a time and always registered. Which name do you use when threatening teenage girls?
Crow Activity: 134 / 5,713
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20 Sep 2013  #26

Harry is registered user that hunt decent Serbs here and plus trolling

He would jump outside of his own skin, if necessary, just to prevent people to see truth about anti-Slavic nature of EU and NATO.
Harry Activity: 65 / 13,518
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12 Jul 2014  #27

Merged: Are threads purely for trolling OK?

Given how a certain poster has been posting threads which are created for no purpose than trolling, e.g. to claim that Brits p!ss on the toilet seat or that English teachers wash cars to replace their income, I'm wondering if such threads (started by 'guest' accounts of course) are now OK here. Are they? If so, would it be OK for somebody to, for example, open a thread in the business section asking why they, as an American of Indian origin, fail so miserably in shop keeping here (and in the USA) and what peculiarities there are about shop-keeping in Poland which might explain their miserable failures or why his fellow Americans all laugh at him?

Personally I'd far prefer that this forum doesn't allow pure trolling but of those threads are allowed, what sauce for the goose....

OK, now we know this thread has been seen by a mod (as it has been merged), could we perhaps have an answer to the question?
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12 Jul 2014  #28

to claim that Brits p!ss on the toilet seat or that English teachers wash cars to replace their income,

How can you be so sure that this has never happened? What do we do with posters who claim that most Americans live in their parents basements, or start calling members by other names in the public forums? Should we ban them too?
Harry Activity: 65 / 13,518
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12 Jul 2014  #29

Fair enough Vincent. If the rule is 'if nobody can be sure it didn't happen, you can post saying it did', let's all live by that rule.

Although all it takes is a very basic knowledge of Warsaw to know that nobody who is a native speaker of English and a qualified teacher would work in car wash earning in a month what they could earn in a day, so yes I can be pretty darn sure that no English teacher in Warsaw has gone to work in a car wash to "substitute" their income.
Vincent Activity: 9 / 813
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12 Jul 2014  #30

so yes I can be pretty darn sure that no English teacher in Warsaw has gone to work in a car wash to "substitute" their income.

I would guess there are teachers doing very well in Warsaw, but there are bound to be others not doing so well as expected. I'm thinking about the ones who come on here, with a 4 week course behind them, asking about extra work and charging low fees. Don't you think when their money runs out, they would be desperate enough to to do any job to stop themselves from starving? Warsaw is a big city, do you really know everyone who calls themselves an English teacher there?




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