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Postby DrDanny » 08/26/09 03:39 PM

Three copies of Smoke and Mirrors are on ebay right now, all claiming to be 1st editions. Two appear to have black cover? the other has purple. What's the story there? which came first? Or are there even more colors?
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Postby Terry » 08/26/09 05:50 PM

I believe the purple one is the 1st edition and the black cover a reprint.
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Postby Seuss » 08/26/09 06:16 PM

Terry is correct... my reprint is black.

Also I didn't spot any black on ebay claiming to be first edition.
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Postby DrDanny » 08/26/09 06:32 PM

This one does: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... K:MEWAX:IT

Down in the description text, not in the title.
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Postby Dave Beutler » 08/30/09 04:39 PM

I recently sold a first edition with a black cover, but it may have been a later printing.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 08/30/09 04:52 PM

First edition is purple, reprints are black.
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Postby Chris Aguilar » 08/30/09 05:05 PM

Any chance you'll be offering this one again Richard?
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Postby Seuss » 08/30/09 05:41 PM

Reprints are widely available. I am actually selling the one I mentioned above over on the marketplace section if you are interested.
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Postby itcomagic » 08/30/09 06:30 PM

Hi. I am the one selling the book at the above link. I was notified by another seller about this forum discussion, and thanks to him for doing so. My copy is black, and it states clearly that it is a First Edition and a second printing. This may be an error on the printer's part, but never-the-less, it is there. I am not attempting to deceive anyone as I am not an expert on copy. I can only list what I see with my own eyes. From my understanding, a book is only deemed a Second Edition if part of the text in the book has undergone major changes (not including the cover), and this one, I believe, has not. Thanks.
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Postby Seuss » 08/30/09 07:05 PM

Maybe Richard can clarify. Was it only the 1st edition 1st printing to get the purple cover?
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 08/30/09 07:12 PM

There was never a second edition.
There have only been several printings of the first edition.
The first printing of the first edition has a purple cover.
Subsequent printings of the first edition have a black cover.
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Postby Seuss » 08/30/09 07:48 PM

Thanks.

Is there generally a way to tell one printing of an edition from another? Aside from big differences like the cover in this case?
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 08/30/09 09:10 PM

There is what's called a "print code" on the copyright page (back of the title page). It's the odd line of numbers that don't seem to make any sense. The lowest number indicates the printing.
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Postby Seuss » 08/30/09 09:52 PM

Thanks again Richard.
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Postby DrDanny » 08/30/09 11:56 PM

@itcomagic -- no offense or accusation intended. I was just seeking clarification as to which color of S&M was the 1st printing.

I think the definition of "first edition" varies depending on the context: subsequent printings of the 1st edition are called 1st ed. because nothing has been changed/added to the book. But collectors usually prefer (and will pay premium prices for) 1st printings of 1st editions.
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