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  • Help Request November 19, 2015

    Forums member and asylum researcher non pareil Mark Davis asked me what these two pages from an issue of the Ilkley Free Press & Addington Courier would be worth on Ebay or as similar sellers format. This particular newspaper doesn't show up in much research work as far as I know and I read a lot of newspapers , so it might be of interest to the completionist and/or collector.

    Any idea, folks ?

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    I'll make a general statement. I have dealt in antiques and seldom want anything to do with printed materials. The first rule on pretty much any printed material is condition, condition, condition. Buyers will insist on driving down the price unless the condition is pristine or mint. Even otherwise rare items, if they were mass produced, run up against that issue. The seller should be aware of this up front because many buyers will really use this point and the seller should be armed with points to counteract this if there are any.

    However, one always wants to look at cross collectability. (That last might not be a word according to spell check, but it is a term used.) That can go to content. If there is an article in the publication that would appeal to collectors of other subjects, it could have an intrinsic value. For instance an otherwise mundane publication covering President Kennedy's assassination at the time, might have a special appeal to a collector of Kennedy memorabilia. (Or consider a contemporary article on JtR. What might a Ripperologist pay to own something like this?)

    There is no year of the publication pictured here. It could have special value to the area where it was published though many times libraries would want donations, etc.

    Research many online auctions, etc. and see what similar items have brought.

    These are just some GENERAL comments.
    Last edited by Anna Morris; November 19, 2015, 07:29 PM. Reason: typo
    The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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    • #3
      Thanks Anna !
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        Not able to help with your request How, but surprised to see Ilkley mentioned on this forum. The very same Ilkley of that well known Yorkshire "anthem", ...."On Ilkley moor baht'at".

        I am from Otley, a neighbouring town just a good stretch of the legs away, both on the bank of the river Wharf.
        Back in the 19th century Ilkley was a divided town, you're familiar with the saying "born on the wrong side of the tracks"?
        In Ilkley, in the 19th century, the main street cut the town in two. The upper classes had their side, and the lower classes had to stick to their side.
        Regards, Jon S.
        "
        The theory that the murderer is a lunatic is dispelled by the opinion given to the police by an expert in the treatment of lunacy patients......."If he's insane
        " observed the medical authority, "he's a good deal sharper than those who are not".
        Reynolds Newspaper, 4 Nov. 1888.

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        • #5
          That's interesting, Jon....thanks for that background.
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            I don't know for certain but I'd say the value of that particular edition with the sketches of JTR would be depend on whether the story around it was a News Agency story and word for word the same as other newspapers that carried the sketches and how many of those survived, or whether the story was unique to a reporter working for that particular paper.

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            • #7
              I've always found that if enough people want an item you will get a fair price for it on ebay. Sometimes over the odds if several people are bidding against one another.

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              • #8
                Thanks a lot Debs. I'll see if I can determine the source of the reportage.

                I should have provided the date before. Its from October 12, 1888.

                I just looked and there isn't a source mentioned regarding the origin of the reports.
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                • #9
                  How, the folk at this site might be able to give you some info about the newspaper :

                  http://www.yorkshireindexers.info/ga...mages.php?c=93

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                  • #10
                    Howard

                    Frankly, those newspaper pages don't look to be in very good shape. The edges of the pages are torn, the paper looks fragile, and there are holes in the page with the suspect sketches, along a crease. Debra is, though, correct that a bidding war can drive up the price of any item, so it might depend who wants the item most.

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                    • #11
                      I agree CG....
                      Mark wasn't sure if they were of any value.
                      Later on I'll put snippets of the pages up.
                      Thanks for your input.
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                      • #12
                        How, could you be sure to put up the chess column?

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                        • #13
                          One more comment on condition. One reason for this insistence is that paper can continue to deteriorate rapidly. There are problems with acid content and a number of other things. Whoever buys, and thus collects, old paper, has to look ahead to proper preservation and to consider what happens to value if it all falls apart.

                          A friend of mine had an old comic book and was advised to preserve it in sealed plastic by using a Daisy Seal-a-Meal. (I don't know a generic term for that product but I think I made my point?)

                          I bought a huge bag of old newspapers (1898) from the western US for $1.00 at a yard sale. They are amazingly tough and I think of what I have heard about the old rag content in newspapers. They feel a little bit like fabric. I also remember hearing that Egyptian mummies were so plentiful that a number of them were used in paper production in the 1800s.
                          The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
                            Forums member and asylum researcher non pareil Mark Davis asked me what these two pages from an issue of the Ilkley Free Press & Addington Courier would be worth on Ebay or as similar sellers format. This particular newspaper doesn't show up in much research work as far as I know and I read a lot of newspapers , so it might be of interest to the completionist and/or collector.

                            Any idea, folks ?

                            Many thanks How...

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