tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post511977050239539534..comments2023-08-19T06:19:28.990-04:00Comments on the nytpicker: Bogus! On Page One, NYT Pulitzer Prize Winner Matt Richtel Delivers Phony Email-In-Decline Trend Story.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post-34728230054646349142010-12-25T16:38:19.078-05:002010-12-25T16:38:19.078-05:00Total visits to e-mail sites can still be down eve...Total visits to e-mail sites can still be down even if Gmail is up. Voter turnout can still be down even if more Democrats vote.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post-80643412861283864912010-12-25T07:16:21.792-05:002010-12-25T07:16:21.792-05:00I also teach at a college and have the same experi...I also teach at a college and have the same experience as Anonymous 4:46 p.m. Over the last few years, I&#39;ve seen that many students stopped checking email daily, although they are constantly plugged in to Facebook and text messages.<br /><br />My wife is a lawyer, and she started noticing the same trend among summer associates at her firm.<br /><br />Of course, just because Richtel may be right, that doesn&#39;t make his article good. Perhaps he should have spoken to a few college profs and others who work with young people in more professional settings.Frolichttp://www.afrolicofmyown.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post-88729187286261793402010-12-23T16:46:30.378-05:002010-12-23T16:46:30.378-05:00I teach at a university and can&#39;t get students...I teach at a university and can&#39;t get students to open my e-mails. One of them told me he never opens emails from the university. <br /><br />They will, however, text to my cel phone at odd hours to find out what assignment is due the next day. Or, when we do have an email exchange, they&#39;ll carry the conversation way longer than it needs to be, in one-word email responses, with another question in them.<br /><br />This carries over into their writing. I just had a student bring me an internship form with no proper names capitalized.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post-13272544356664699422010-12-23T11:10:28.281-05:002010-12-23T11:10:28.281-05:00Still, I think his thesis is true. Talk to teenage...Still, I think his thesis is true. Talk to teenagers and college students about email. It really is distasteful to them.gardien de butnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post-27475084350656379312010-12-23T07:39:11.303-05:002010-12-23T07:39:11.303-05:00on an unrelated note, this might interest you.. ht...on an unrelated note, this might interest you..<br />http://blogs.forbes.com/jeffbercovici/2010/12/21/jilted-ex-blasts-ny-times-over-vows-story-revisionist-history/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post-14957207482395585842010-12-22T11:13:47.070-05:002010-12-22T11:13:47.070-05:00Anonymous wrote: &quot;Email just carries the char...Anonymous wrote: &quot;Email just carries the characters, it doesn&#39;t force any structure.&quot;<br /><br />This is untrue. When was the last time you wrote a letter by hand that contained half-sentences or pithy short forms? The speed of email--that is, the expectation that your message will be received, and read, quickly, and responded to quickly--makes it more conversational than traditional correspondence. In fact, it&#39;s not correspondence at all--it&#39;s a form of talking, which is why one uses, or falls back on, conversational short-hand. Texting only makes this more apparent.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10435109171932834328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post-5770243867142566302010-12-22T10:44:39.362-05:002010-12-22T10:44:39.362-05:00I&#39;ve been saying it for years about NYTimes fe...I&#39;ve been saying it for years about NYTimes feature articles: &quot;Two friends is a trend.&quot;tcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10245118778328592750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post-56121859753317806152010-12-22T07:14:44.980-05:002010-12-22T07:14:44.980-05:00What&#39;s truly bizarre about this meme is that i...What&#39;s truly bizarre about this meme is that it&#39;s not about email v. text messages, but full sentences v. casual textspeak. I&#39;ve had a number of email conversations that consist of half sentence remarks. And then I&#39;ve also swapped traditional letters. Email just carries the characters, it doesn&#39;t force any structure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post-31843892125983831992010-12-21T21:50:33.230-05:002010-12-21T21:50:33.230-05:00New York Times pranked by PR stunt The Dec. 10 Fr...New York Times pranked by PR stunt<br /><br />The Dec. 10 Freakonomics blog had its genesis in a savvy press release by a<br />mysterious man named Cathal Morrow, a Welshman<br />who resides in Madrid and deserves some of kind of media prize for his<br />global skills at punking said media.<br /><br />This month he punked the well-respected Freakonomics blog at the<br />New York Times. His modus<br />operandi is simple: write a short, snappy press release and send it<br />around. Someone is bound<br />to pick it up. But the New York Times? <br /><br /><br /><br />Yes. Cathal Morrow&#39;s got cojones.<br /><br /><br /><br />Item: Cathal Morrow claims he will float himself on the Stock Exchange<br />Wanted: literary shareholders to buy 30,000 shares in him at £10 apiece<br /><br />And the media in New York slop it up without asking nay<br />questions. They basically<br />reprint the bloke&#39;s press releases verbatim. That&#39;s journalism at our<br />top papers now?<br /><br />Alison Flood at the Guardian tells readers that Morrow is &quot;writing up<br />his exploits [from a previous PR stunt in 2008 ]as a book [titled &quot;Yes<br />We Kant&quot; -- but Flood never verifies that such a book is even really<br />being written. She just takes<br />the man&#39;s word on his mass-mailed press release and runs with it. The<br />fact is that Cathal Morrow never wrote a book in his life, doesn&#39;t<br />have a book agent and there is no book at all. It&#39;s all a mirage, a<br />show, a PR game. The MSM<br />don&#39;t seem to emply fact-checkers these days, not even the august New<br />York Times.<br /><br />Morrow on this latest stock market venture, which is a pure fantasy,<br />explains what he&#39;s up to.<br /><br />&quot;I&#39;m floating the value of me, that is the intellectual property of<br />the story of my flotation on the stock exchange,&quot; he says. &quot;If it goes<br />viral, if we get book deals, and a big movie studio wades in with a<br />big chunk of cash, then that could be worth a considerable amount. The<br />more &#39;famous&#39; I become, the greater the value of me.&quot;<br /><br />If you believe any of this, I have a bridge to sell you, in Brooklyn,<br />not far from the New York Times.<br /><br />Duncan Campbell in October 2008 in the Guardian gave Morrow his start<br />with this nonsense,<br />also taken almost verbatim back then from the prankter&#39;s press<br />release: &quot;The philosopher Immanuel Kant believed that telling lies was<br />always morally wrong. But is it possible to live without telling a<br />single lie for a whole year? That is the task that Cathal Morrow has<br />set himself and he will let us know next year if it is possible, when<br />he has finished his book on the experiment, to be called &#39;The Complete<br />Kant&#39;.&#39;&#39;<br /><br />That&#39;s the book that Morrow never wrote and that he &quot;claims&quot; to be<br />writing now. Except that he&#39;s not. The man<br />is not a published writer and he never wrote a book in his life.<br /><br />Earth to Guardian! Earth to New York Times! Earth to Wall Street Journal!<br /><br />You&#39;ve been punked by a serial prankster. And he&#39;s not finished, either.<br /><br />Morrow, who’ claims he&#39;s in the midst of a year without<br />&#39;&#39;unhappiness&#39;&#39; -- book deal, anyone? -- following his year without<br />lying -- book deal, anyone? -- has a new project that even got past<br />eagle-eyed New York Times editors: Me Me Me Plc, a company he plans to<br />float on the London Stock Exchange by selling shares in himself. It’s<br />£10 a share, which gets you a photograph of the British expat in lieu<br />of a share certificate.<br /><br />Enough already! Editors of the mainstream media, wake up! You have<br />nothing to lose but your blinders!DANIELBLOOMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05130493903696077379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post-73339526106212691192010-12-21T18:50:15.083-05:002010-12-21T18:50:15.083-05:00Did you see Richtel&#39;s &quot;update&quot; on th...Did you see Richtel&#39;s &quot;update&quot; on the Bits blog (http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/21/e-mails-big-demographic-split/)? It&#39;s terrible. He cites a comScore chart that shows email use is down 48% among teens (since last year). Too bad that stat is for desktop users. I don&#39;t know about you, but I don&#39;t know anyone between the ages of 12-17 who would be caught dead using a desktop. He&#39;s showing the death of the desktop, not the death of email.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post-26652071315356030882010-12-21T12:07:39.243-05:002010-12-21T12:07:39.243-05:00Richtel&#39;s observation of the trend is OK, even...Richtel&#39;s observation of the trend is OK, even if it is not quantitatively well-supported by his article.<br /><br />Technological interfaces encourage their young cohorts, often first time users on the computer, toward the extroverted, spontaneous free-form in written communications. <br /><br />Whether it&#39;s about endless punting and killing time when there&#39;s nothing really to say, or to make arrangements, exchanges will be emptier and hollower, and, devoid of any sense of formal or physical necessities. To send an Email will be a huge leap. One on one interactions and exchange of potentially sensitive information will be quick to disappear. Information will only be of value if it is shared with or within a group or at least forwarded it to as many as possible, and common place will be the shunning of lengthy explanations, structure, titles, signature...<br /><br />Loose social bonds become looser though well-archived.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post-25999156169361411592010-12-21T10:40:16.689-05:002010-12-21T10:40:16.689-05:00&quot;And you enjoy using e-mail.&quot; I don&#39...&quot;And you enjoy using e-mail.&quot;<br /><br />I don&#39;t even know how the level of e-mail enjoyment has anything to do with his thesis. This statement about old fogeys enjoying e-mail could just as easily go along with an article about how e-mail use is steadily increasing, even though young people don&#39;t enjoy it the way old people do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post-14524189641557756202010-12-21T10:33:33.949-05:002010-12-21T10:33:33.949-05:00That really was a terrible article. I was waiting ...That really was a terrible article. I was waiting for some actual numbers and they never came. The other thing he didn&#39;t even mention was trends in corporate email. Perhaps (though he doesn&#39;t present any real data), brief, social emails are going towards other formats, but that&#39;s only a fraction of email accounts.<br /><br />On other thing of note is the core fact of the article was a product placement for Facebook&#39;s messaging format change. It&#39;s almost as if Facebook send newspapers a press release explaining why they are moving a away from email and the NY Times decided to get quotes from two teenagers to turn it into an article.bscinoreply@blogger.com
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