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 Post subject: for the Record
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:39 am 
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I read that chat and I also reported broken laws to Gingi on things that have involved the board.

I never hit on Domini he can say whatever he wants. Come to think of it I haven't even talked to him, but he must be pretty out of it to try and say that I hit on him.

Reinier geez I try to be nice to you but you seem to just have it in for me. I don't know if you're a bigot or not, but what you said about me in that chat was pretty low. Btw where did you see my picture and I like how you called me and Lyra fat. People on Divvy have only seen my face pic so kind of hard to judge my weight. I also removed that pic along time ago so I would like to know where you got a copy, but you are probaly just faking it and trying to act like a big man. I am taller then Lyra granted, but you are rather rude for calling us fat. Though you may have been saying it about my height, but I am assuming weight since what was said after that.

Btw for those who have problem with my post quality. I made it here didn't I? Guess that shows you. I would post bigger, but sorry unlike most members I do have a life. I have to work, clean, prepare for college and plenty of other stuff. I'm not a normal student with no life or a mother with a lot of free time. I never took creative writing classes, but never insult my posting abilitie since I seem to stand out as one of the more creative members in terms of idea and personality. Remember not everyone cares about 15 page posts like Tokki's; some of us rather dislike them or such (Using Tokki as an example).

Now I reported Zan's illegal actions that break COPPA regulations and well Gingi will have to obey them or well you don't wanna know. So how do you all like me now; kinda sucks when people find out the crap you say about them.

A note to Nighthand as well; Zan lied to you when he said all things were taken care of. He never made an attempt to take care of the problems he started with some of us. I can only think of one person he settled with after he started a fight. And also after you left the chat they started to talk about you to.

This is my saw; it violates no rules thus it cannot be legally deleted.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:57 am 
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Since Vera decided to make this out in the open, I guess I have to speak about this as well. I have read the same chat and personally, some of you don't the guts to insult Vera, me, or anyone else in the face. I know that I'm not the best poster when comes to the physical realm but my true strength is character development. Don't care about that as much with someone calling me stupid behind me back.

Basically, bashing people behind their back is seriously wrong. I like Vera because she's a good person. It seems that some of you hated her because her background and such which is wrong. If you want to bitch me out, go ahead. Don't expect me to be all nice.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:40 pm 
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::Yawns and rubs the sleep out of his eyes:: Well, okay. I'll appease the masses.

I'm gone, out, done. You won't see me on main again.

Zan can have my holy cross.

Nights, my only true friend on main until Zan, you can have everything else.

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This is what happens when no one can take a joke. Frankly, it sickens me.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:09 pm 
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After being informed about this by another member, I'd like to say that the Avantgarden der Dammerung will not have any part in members who engage in acts against the ToS and are obviously very disrespectful to people at such a large scale. I will have to talk to Wren about this matter, however I think that it is very likely that Zan shall not be in the Avantgarden der Dammerung.

I cannot confirm this on my own, however a removal from the clan is the recommendation I will be taking to Wren.

-Asura, Second-in-Command of the Avantgarden der Dammerung

Edit: Forgot to mention this at first. The above is in the case that all of what is said is proven true. I would like a copy of the transcript for myself in order to verify the actions of Zan.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:36 pm 
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*Rolls his eyes*

I agree Nighthand. Vera, look what the hell you did. You made one of the best posters on Main quit because you weren't able to take a joke. No one was. People are aloud to vent frustrations in chats. I violated nothing, because it was in a chat. I didn't post it on the boards. As for yo, Asura, you can go and do whatever you damn well please. If I'm to leave the VoT, then I'm to leave the VoT. Nights has worked so damn hard on this site and whiney people like Vera and Asura have made one of the only people holding it together leave. God you two are unbearable. Nights, don't give up hope. Don't let these sniveling children make you quit.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:47 pm 
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Zan, I realized that, being in a chat you were free from the obligations of the COPPA regulations. However, it is my obligation to examine whatever "proof" there is to these claims. If myself and Wren feel that you are promoting a negative image of the Avantgarden der Dammerung, you shall be removed.

Furthermore, I have nothing to do with Reinier quitting, if ya didn't notice. My actions are simply referring to you, not to Reinier. Honestly, I couldn't give a damn what Reinier is doing, as he is not a member of the clan and not exactly a person I want to associate with.

Personally, I have a feeling that Vera is seriously overreacting. In this case, I will have no reason to remove you from the Avantgarden der Dammerung. It is just required that I check, just in case.

That is all.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:56 pm 
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How this can be a joke when the person you were making the joke at wasn't even at the chat? I know that the internet you can't a person's feeling into a comment but with past history and with the secret chat, I have no doubt in my mind that it can't be just a joke.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:57 pm 
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Zan for your info a COPPA violation was when you posted on the board that you would kill me. I screen capped those and don't worry I have them nice and peacefully hid in several areas. This argument is over, done, ended and is to be posted in no more. Night lock if you do not mind

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 Post subject: Notice
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:05 pm 
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After reviewing the chat transcript provided by another member, I see no reason for the claims against Zan. As a result, he will remain in the Avantgarden der Dammerung. It is to my opinion that Vera's claims are exaggerated and have no real basis behind them.


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