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06:32 pinesol_green News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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09:22 Bmagic Just curious, when doing an apache2 reload I notice that OpenSRF spins up tons of new processes. What is going on there? Are current sessions/connections getting reset?
09:28 jeff perl handlers re-running their init subs, I believe.
09:29 jeff even "just" on reload.
09:29 Bmagic Not a problem for connected clients? Hopefully no one notices when a reload happens on a brick.
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09:50 berick Bmagic: an active apache backend will wait until it's done with the current request before exiting during reload
09:51 berick Bmagic: however, if many apache procs start at once, it can have a load blip on the server
09:52 Bmagic The load blip is noticable for sure
09:53 Bmagic The main thing is hiccup in service and it sounds like the users would feel a slowness but not an error?
09:54 berick guess it depends on the severity of the load spike, but generally speaking apache reloads are safe
09:54 Bmagic ty
09:55 berick Bmagic: fwiw, i take servers out of rotation before reloading to be extra safe
09:55 Bmagic roger that
09:56 dbwells berick: Do you know if that general safety applies to Apache restarts as well?  I've never noticed any ill effects, and sometimes it just has to be done, but I don't want to be totally callous :)
09:57 berick dbwells: apache restarts will disrupt active connections
09:57 berick i don't think it's very forgiving
09:59 berick active meaning in the middle of a request
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10:07 dbwells Thanks.  I'm curious now to see if transmission just plain stops or some degree of process "cleanup" at least tells the other end, hey, I'm going away.
10:07 * dbwells has better things to do, probably
10:07 berick yeah, i don't know
10:26 miker there's a graceful restart option that waits for requests to complete. there may not be a built in option for that with systemd on some distros, though
10:30 miker (and if you experience service slowdowns because of apache startup of a dozen backends, you'll probably experience them with normal user interaction sometimes ... think "density wave" a la traffic patterns ... so you proabably want to increase min spare and max kids, and maybe add a vcpu or three. or separate resource "contenders")
10:34 Bmagic We are going through our apache configs for the big Google SSL August 1st deal... This line "RedirectMatch ^/$ https://ourdomain/eg/opac/home?locg=289" seems to be redundant with "SetEnv physical_loc 289" as far as the resulting tt2->html
10:35 Bmagic Auditing the configs caused me to find this out. It seems that we can remove the RedirectMatch line and be just fine but I thought I would see what others thought?
10:36 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Wells] Forward-port 3.1.4 upgrade script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=daf65af>
10:40 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Wells] Forward-port 3.0.10 upgrade script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=827d027>
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12:48 Bmagic Can anyone think of a scenario that would cause Webby to tell the staff that the item that is attempted to checkout is on hold for another patron but when investigated we find that it was on hold for the patron who was checking it out (they came to pick it up)
12:52 kmlussier That sounds slightly familiar
12:52 kmlussier I think it's a bug that has been fixed, but I'm not finding it.
12:53 kmlussier bug 1755502, but that bug was fixed in time for the full 3.1 release.
12:54 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1755502 in Evergreen "Alternate hold pickup popup displays when checking out item to hold patron" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1755502
13:09 Bmagic darn, not in 3.0.x
13:09 Bmagic kmlussier++
13:13 rjackson_isl evergreeners++ for the hard work on all the latest fixes in 3.1.4 and 3.0.10! Impressive :)
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13:26 nfpl Is there a way to set column configurations on the server side to set up defaults for the way we want them to look? We want to modify the fields shown by default in our tables staff side on all workstations so it is consistent.
13:27 nfpl Also, congrats on 3.1.4. I will be upgrading our system to it next week
13:30 idjit 3.1.4: pi edition. :-)
13:30 kmlussier nfpl: Not yet, but it may be part of the work berick is doing to move local storage settings to the database.
13:31 JBoyer nfpl, I believe it currently requires modifying the templates by hand, but once bug 1750894 is closed you'll be able to do that and much more without messing with template files.
13:31 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1750894 in Evergreen "Wishlist: Store web staff workstation settings on the server" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1750894
13:31 JBoyer kmlussier++
13:31 kmlussier JBoyer: Jinx!
13:31 JBoyer :)
13:32 nfpl Oh fantastic. I tried modifying the template and it didn't want to listen....
13:32 JBoyer (Which I am supposed to be loading on a test server any time now... Where oh where have the tuits gone, long time passing, etc.)
13:33 kmlussier Yes, I was just thinking the same thing. I might look at it tomorrow.
13:33 JBoyer nfpl, you may need a "Clear cache and hard reload" to get it to appear, and if you've saved a column config locally that won't be overridden.
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13:36 nfpl I may be in the wrong file? t_checkin_table.tt2 doesn't respond to changes
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13:39 jeff keep in mind also that you might be cachine tt templates on the server side.
13:39 jeff s/cachine/caching/ even
13:41 berick bug 1750894 implements the server-side storage.  my first follow up to that bug once merged will be a way for staff (w/ appropriate permissions) to save settings for a given gid as an org setting (instead of user/workstation).
13:41 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1750894 in Evergreen "Wishlist: Store web staff workstation settings on the server" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1750894
13:41 berick you could approximate the same by saving a grid then manually copying the setting value to the analogous org setting
13:44 nfpl Okay. It sounds great, guess I will wait. Just thought the defaults would be able to be altered server side as staff here have come up with a standard grid config. I look forward to 3.2
13:47 kmlussier nfpl: t_checkin_table should be the right file for the checkin page. In addition to the caching, you'll need to remove any locally-saved settings from the browser's local storage.
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15:03 pinesol_green Showing latest 5 of 7 commits to Evergreen...
15:03 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP#1766716: Release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=71c4649>
15:03 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1766716: (follow-up) expand CSS imports for now - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=a440cb0>
15:03 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1766716 Closed dates API emergency filter fix - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3f249b1>
15:03 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP#1766716: Adjust date display logic - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=76ff232>
15:03 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1766716 Stamping emergency closing DB upgrade - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=15c4db3>
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16:53 csharp maybe a bug?  when I try to hard-code a "not in list" in the web client reporter UI, it treats what I've entered as a single list item
16:54 csharp e.g., PO states of 'invalid' and 'complete' become AND "ce91a29a867084d503894c06769de8b4"."state" NOT IN ($_5238$'complete', 'invalid'$_5238$)
16:57 csharp entering them in the report definition is fine for a recurring report, but some you just don't wanna
16:58 csharp esp. things you have to know like IDs
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18:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Failed Running perl live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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19:05 kenstir Hey evergreeners, your friendly open source mobile app developer here.
19:05 kenstir I know how to retrieve user preferences like Pickup Library using open-ils.actor.user.fleshed.retrieve; is there a corresponding OSRF request to set it?
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20:12 hbrennan Can I not put a copy alert on a precat item? The Copy Alert button is missing from the Volume/Copy Editor screen, but I don't think it's a permission thing.
20:12 hbrennan afternoon in Alaska = talking aloud to myself :)
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20:44 miker hbrennan: I'm not surprised. we should really disallow directly editing precats, imo... they "don't exist" except during a circ. you should be able to "catalog" them by adding the copy as a regular holding, even while in use
20:45 hbrennan miker: I sent a book out that was barcoded but not in catalog. I just wanted to add a note on return for who to give it to. Webby allowed me to add a regular Alert Message.
20:46 hbrennan I was just really excited to use Copy Alerts with those fancy options
21:00 miker :D
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