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Post Posted:: July 27th, 2017, 3:24 pm 

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The Arte or Crafte of Rhethoryke by Leonard Cox ( - 0).

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This text is a 19th-century reprint of the very first known English-language book on rhetoric, including an introduction and notes from Frederic Ives Carpenter of the University of Chicago. The original brief treatise by Leonard Cox covers various themes and topics related to oratory and argument. Carpenter's introductory material adds helpful context and analysis.
( Amelia Chesley)


  1. Text source (only read from this text!): https://archive.org/details/cu31924027163835

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Last edited by plaidsicle on August 31st, 2017, 1:34 pm, edited 3 times in total.

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Post Posted:: July 27th, 2017, 3:28 pm 

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it was difficult to decide whether to use this Internet Archive text or the PG text (http://www.gutenberg.org/files/25612/25612-h/25612-h.htm) but the later edition looked easier to read, and the introduction will probably be really interesting too.

I don't think I'll read the list of other works, the Appendix of Latin stuff, or the glossary sections.

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The text source link doesn't work ?

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Post Posted:: July 27th, 2017, 4:02 pm 

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it seems to for me-- it goes to the pdf file directly. this is the full archive.org page, if needed: https://archive.org/details/cu31924027163835

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Happy to MC this for you Plaidsicle.
And the MW is ready. :)

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Post Posted:: July 27th, 2017, 7:05 pm 

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hurrah! thank you so much MaryAnn. I will get my section breaks in order soon and start recording for this in the next few weeks, if all goes well...

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Post Posted:: July 28th, 2017, 5:35 am 

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Man, you'd have to be mad to DPL this, what with all the Latin and Middle/Early Modern English.

So, can I volunteer? I'm always up for a challenge!

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Post Posted:: July 28th, 2017, 9:30 am 

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you certainly may!

I'm still not sure how exactly I'm going to get my head around all that old spelling and whatnot. we'll see how it goes...

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Post Posted:: July 28th, 2017, 10:51 am 

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I've just had a go at reading some of this aloud. I hope you know what you've let yourself in for...

It took me a good amount of time to work out what ſeruyce was.

EDIT: Another difficult one: Inuencyon. And I had to check the OED to be sure that 'perfyght' was actually an old spelling of 'perfect'.

EDIT 2: Assuming you don't have access to the OED or similar (but then again, you might), please let me know if you'd like me to look up obscure words for you. For example, on page 45 is this sentence:
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For it is made of .ii. thynges knyte or vnied togither
I'm sure you can work out easily most of the words, but you might get stuck on 'vnied'. Even if you correctly assume it's actually 'unied', and even if you correctly backform it to the root verb, 'uny', you're not going to find any confirmation it's correct in most online dictionaries.

However, OED has the word, showing it's basically an obsolete form of 'unite' that hasn't been in use since the 16th Century. (though as a side-effect of that, it gives no guide about how to pronounce it...)

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Post Posted:: August 14th, 2017, 11:20 am 

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A quick update from me: I'm going to be on holiday from tomorrow to the 26th, and as such, will not be able to do any PLing for that time period.

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Post Posted:: August 14th, 2017, 12:48 pm 

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thanks for letting me know.
my fall semester is starting next week, so I'm not sure how soon I'll get any recording done anyway. but it'll wait for you most patiently, if it does get done. happy vacationing!

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Post Posted:: August 31st, 2017, 3:58 pm 

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our short and sweet first section is here: https://librivox.org/uploads/maryannspiegel/rhethoryke_01_cox_128kb.mp3
3:17

I read most of the title page as a sort of "long intro" on this first file. the others will just have the usual title/disclaimer/read by___/title/author/section intro bits. hopefully that makes sense.

there are thankfully still a few sections of regular 19th-century prose before I wade into the old old 16th-century stuff.....
all feedback is welcome. this is a newer mic for me and I'm still getting the hang of making things sound good with it.

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Post Posted:: September 1st, 2017, 11:16 am 

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plaidsicle wrote:
our short and sweet first section is here: https://librivox.org/uploads/maryannspiegel/rhethoryke_01_cox_128kb.mp3
3:17

I read most of the title page as a sort of "long intro" on this first file. the others will just have the usual title/disclaimer/read by___/title/author/section intro bits. hopefully that makes sense.

there are thankfully still a few sections of regular 19th-century prose before I wade into the old old 16th-century stuff.....
all feedback is welcome. this is a newer mic for me and I'm still getting the hang of making things sound good with it.

And we're off!

Nothing wrong with the text, but it is too quiet at the moment. You're at 85.1 dB, and you should be aiming for 89 dB. However, due to a couple of loud sections, this can't be amplified without clipping. I'd recommend using the Leveler tool.

Also, you're missing 'End of Section 1' at the end of the recording.

And if you're really after all feedback, there's a bit too much mouth-noise at times (e.g. lip smacks, tongue clicks), but I don't know what the solution is... Maybe keep back a bit from the mike? This page might have some useful information.

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Post Posted:: October 18th, 2017, 12:06 pm 

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checking in--

I'm still alive and still planning to work on this. just having a very crowded semester.

thanks for your notes, JorWat. I'm debating whether or not to try re-recording to address all my mouth-clickings. for the record, I use GarageBand to record, so I'm so far unable to use most of the very nicely documented tips and tricks for Audacity.

I'll eventually decide what to do and re-upload things.

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Post Posted:: October 19th, 2017, 3:06 am 

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Thanks for checking in, I was starting to get a little worried.

If you want to re-record that, then you can, but I don't think you need to. As I said, I only pointed it out because you asked for all feedback.

Oh, and take your time. I'm currently doing a recoding of my own, and am uploading at a rate of about one section a month, so I'm aware of how long it can take to find time to record.

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