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Blog Blog and Now ReBlog?

Woke up at 2:00am this morning with an incredible urge to "Re-Blog" so here I am.  As you join in on the network this morning, you're going to notice a little something new about ActiveRain. Yep, Reblog is here!  We have been talking about this for a while now, and I for one am stoked about this new option. This could be a really cool tool...

So here's how it works to the best of my knowledge:

I find an article or post on ActiveRain that I really like and want to share or "Re-Blog" about it.


Next, all you have to do is click on the ReBlog button that's in that post
and you'll get the following screen where you can add your "optional commentary" by using the familiar graphics toolbar and editor interface:


Check it out, experiment, and have some fun!!
  I know you'll have questions and I'll hope to answer them, but I'm going to go crawl back into bed right now and hope that when I wake up, this whole Re-Blog thing isn't just a dream.  Feel free to try it and "Re-Blog" this post, I'd love to test how this affects SEO.  What a great way to syndicate posts and help our Blogs.  Very Cool.  Goodnight!  :-) 

EDIT - THE MORNING AFTER: Bob has written a detailed post that explains the more technical side of the reblog concept and how it's invisioned to work.   This is a MUST READ!   ReBlogging On ActveRain

 

     

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Comment balloon 175 commentsBrad Andersohn • August 09 2008 04:27AM

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BRAD - Thank you for offering up an explanation.  When I logged on, I was baffled by what I was seeing.  I don't know what the SEO benefits are, but I'm looking forward to learning more from you.  One suggestion that I would make though, is to move the icon to another place.  It is very distracting, and the consumers are going to be confused by it.  I'll speak to you soon.

Posted by Adam Waldman, Realtor - Long Island (Westcott Group Real Estate Company) over 12 years ago

Oh my!  This should be quite interesting. I suppose I'll get to catch up on all the wonderful posts I miss.

Posted by LS Rogers Realty (LS Rogers Realty) over 12 years ago

i just noticed it and had to come see if I could find out what it was about... I wondered if it was re blog as in real estate blog or re blog as in write about a blog. 

Posted by Maureen McCabe, Columbus Ohio Real Estate (HER Realtors) over 12 years ago

We need to contact Dictionary.com.  I looked up re-blog, and got this:

No results found for re-blog  :-O

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

ActiveRain has probably coined the word...

Posted by Maureen McCabe, Columbus Ohio Real Estate (HER Realtors) over 12 years ago

I noticed it first thing this morning, of course I clicked on it....went, oh no! what did I do! stole someone's post!  : -)

Posted by Sandra Cummings, Real Estate Agent, Guilford Connecticut (William Raveis Real Estate) over 12 years ago

has anyone reblogged?  Point me to a reblog.  I started to do a couple and hesitated.

Posted by Maureen McCabe, Columbus Ohio Real Estate (HER Realtors) over 12 years ago

 

What is a reBlog?

A reBlog facilitates the process of filtering and republishing relevant content from many other Blogs. reBloggers subscribe to their favorite blogs, preview the content, and select their favorite posts. These posts are automatically published through their favorite blogging software.

Why should you reBlog?

reBlogs are useful to individuals who want to maintain a weblog but prefer curating content to writing original posts. They can also enable organizations to tap the contributions of their employees, members, and communities-at-large in order to easily redistribute relevant content.

I looked this up on Google before heading for my pillow! It appears that it's similar to the RSS feed, but better :-)

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

Re-blog of our own blog articles?

I would think that could be advantageous instead of simply providing a link when referencing an older article that you wrote.

But re-blogging of someone elses blog?  I would hope people would ask permission to reprint someone elses work.  (Plagerism?)

Edit:  Just read your comment above this one Brad.  I'm still confused, but it is early in the morning and I'm still on my first cup of coffee :-)  I'll check back in to read all the comments later in the day, it should clarify things in my mind then.

Posted by Kris Wales, Real Estate Blog & Homes for Sale search site, Macomb County MI (Keller Williams Realty - Lakeside Market Center) over 12 years ago

Maureen - just go for it. Be the First!  It's too early in the morning and I don't think anyone has tried this yet. ReBlog me if you like, there has to be a post somewhere in my Blog that you find worth reblogging...I hope. lol~ :-)

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

Sounds interesting; and for 6 am in the morning, that's saying a lot!

Posted by Ron Moore, MOORE Thoughts (RE/MAX Professionals/Regal Builders - Retired) over 12 years ago

I did one... I Re-Blogged on Loreena Yeos blog...

It ended up on my Outside blog... does not belong there... oh well....

but I edited it and took it off my outside blog, added some tags, posted it to RE professionals and posted it to three groups.

my head is spinning.

Posted by Maureen McCabe, Columbus Ohio Real Estate (HER Realtors) over 12 years ago

Kris - it's kind of like an RSS feed. The original author still gets all the credit, you don't need permission. You are just syndicating their post and adding your (optional) commentary.  I don't see that reblogging your own posts would have the same impact as reblogging someone else's content.  I think you raise a great point, but I know that AR would not provide a tool like this if there were any way in the world this could be construed as plagiarism. :-)

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

Maureen - just go back and edit the post and uncheck the "Outside Blog" box. This will remove it from your outside Blog.  :-)

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

Brad, gotcha.

My only other question would be this:  Copyright laws (to my knowledge) state we can use a 2 or 3 sentence snippet and then provide a link to the original authors work.

If this re-blog uses the entire article, how does that get around copyright laws? 

Just realized we automatically gave permission for syndication when we submit articles here (via RSS). Got it now, thanks :-)

Posted by Kris Wales, Real Estate Blog & Homes for Sale search site, Macomb County MI (Keller Williams Realty - Lakeside Market Center) over 12 years ago

Brad - sometimes I wonder HOW you come up with this stuff... now I know.... you're sleepwalking through it!   I'll try it out and let you know how it goes, you sleepless wonder you...

Posted by Eva Armstrong over 12 years ago

is the 5 indicating that this has been reblogged 5 times? 

Posted by Maureen McCabe, Columbus Ohio Real Estate (HER Realtors) over 12 years ago

Brad, Thanks for the information. I will wait and see how this works.

Posted by Gita Bantwal, REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel (RE/MAX Centre Realtors) over 12 years ago

I think it seems like a nice addition. Thanks!

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Posted by Ronald Gillis, CNSA Southwest Florida. Notaries, Port Charlotte, 941-7-NOTARY (Southwest Florida Notaries (Mortgage Notary Signing Agent)) over 12 years ago

Thanks for the explanation, I will have to try it.  I was puzzled when I saw it.

Posted by Carol Swain, Realtor, -www.swainsells.com- Bucks County, Pa (Keller Williams Real Estate) over 12 years ago

AHHH, so that is what that funny little tab /arrow is all about.

Posted by Don Rogers, Realtor, Broker, CDPE, GRI, OnullFallon MO & St Charles County MO homes (Keller Williams Realty Chesterfield) over 12 years ago

Hmmmm...sounds like twice the points for half the work....? There are the mega points folks who have been cutting and pasting this for a while...not sure I get the point.

Posted by Sally K. & David L. Hanson, WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce (EXP Realty 414-525-0563) over 12 years ago

I'm sure this is going to bring up some serious issues.  I can understand being able to reblog my own posts if I want to update a post I've done previously but it raises does raise some serious concerns in my mind about the usage.  I played with it though and it is easy to do!

Posted by Cindy Jones, Pentagon, Fort Belvoir & Quantico Real Estate News (Integrity Real Estate Group) over 12 years ago

Brad,

Is there any benefit or is it just something for fun. I'm wondering how many of those point mongers will use it to get extra points even if they have nothing new to write about...I think there going to be a fire lit.:)

Posted by Neal Bloom, Realtor CRS-Weston FL Real Estate (Brokered by eXp Realty LLC) over 12 years ago

Woke this morning to find I reached my 1st featured post!  I was so excited..  then noticed the reblog tab - thought oh - this is what happens when you get featured! Da - then saw it on all my previous.  Headed here immediately to see what Brad had to say...

Not sure if I understand it either yet...  you guys really do come up with some stuff!

Raleigh Realtor - Pamela St. Peter 

Posted by Lee & Pamela St. Peter, Making Connections to Success in Real Estate (Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices YSU Realty: (919) 645-2522) over 12 years ago

Brad,

I can honetly say I've never woken up at 2AM with an urge to blog---hope you got back to sleep soon after.  Thanks for the info, too.

Posted by Diane Bell, Hilton Head Real Estate, Bluffton (Charter 1 Real Estate, Hilton Head, Bluffton, SC) over 12 years ago

It is kind of like trackbacks on a WordPress or Typepad or maybe it is NOTHING like trackback.  Maybe it is backward TrackBacks  It is backwards trackbaks in that it increases conversation from blog to blog...which should be a good thing (unless it is used for evil.)

Shouldn't I be able to go from Brad's blog though to things that were inspired by it?  I know to keep the spam down AR doesn't use trackbacks.

Posted by Maureen McCabe, Columbus Ohio Real Estate (HER Realtors) over 12 years ago

I don't get it ...

Posted by Will Nesbitt, Nesbitt Realty is a family-run brokerage. (Nesbitt Realty at Condo Alexandria) over 12 years ago

Thanks for giving us the info -- I am sure everyone will experiment with it --

Posted by Norma J. Elkins, Realtor - Elkins Home Selling Team ( Elite Realty Group) over 12 years ago

just tried to reblog on one of my previous posts and am getting a page not available...  tried a couple of times...  hmmm

NEVER MIND - IT POSTED 3 TIMES!!! ;) 

Posted by Lee & Pamela St. Peter, Making Connections to Success in Real Estate (Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices YSU Realty: (919) 645-2522) over 12 years ago

Brad: Thanks for the tutorial. I was wondering what that icon was about. I thought I had done something wrong and someone was saying this was a repost of an old blog. I re-blogged you to all the stager groups. I think I just invented a new word "re-blogged".

Posted by Michelle Minch, Home Staging Los Angeles and Pasadena, CA (Moving Mountains Design Home Staging, Pasadena, CA) over 12 years ago

I can see where this would have good usage in an AR debate.  The second poster would simply re-blog the post that they disagree with and then add their comments.  This would be mush simpler for readers to follow. 

Posted by Erik Hitzelberger, Louisville - Middletown Real Estate (RE/MAX Alliance - Louisville REALTOR-Luxury Homes) over 12 years ago

Brad, I guess I'm going to have to think about this one. My initial thoughts are:

  • Can the original author "opt out" of the reblog on individual posts? For example, I don't think I want my competitiors reblogging my market reports.
  • What happens when members now do nothing but reblog to populate their blog?

OK I have do some more thinking on this one.

Posted by Bryant Tutas, Selling Florida one home at a time (Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC) over 12 years ago

Hi Brad!

I'm begining to think you don't know about, it doesn't exist lol. Is this like voting for a post but just within AR? Seems like it could be a duplicate content issue since I already syndicate from www.MainLinePaToday.com

Posted by Judy Peterson, "Superb Service, Superb Results" (Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Fox&Roach Realtors ) over 12 years ago

Brad...

I'm with Broker Bryant on this one...My intial reaction is of course the opt out option. I believe it's important for us to have the ability to control our own content in the Rain.

I also have serious concerns about Members populating their Blogs with everything but their own content.

Obviously, this is a knee jerk reaction and my best paw forward is to cat nap on it :)

TLW...ROAR!

Posted by "The Lovely Wife" (Broker Bryantnulls Wife) The One And Only TLW. (President-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc.) over 12 years ago

Brad, my content is the concern. Not that I am a great writer or poster but we do have issue with hijacking and stealing our content. It is a good idea, but I think we all need some control on this upgrade. I just reblog one my first post for a test.

Posted by Frank Rubi, FrankRubiRealEstate.com (Frank Rubi Real Estate, LLC) over 12 years ago

I just did this on a post about the John Edwards thing.  I was about to write a blog when I someone else already had.  I quite like it.  That way you can easily give credit to the other people who inspire your thoughts.

Posted by Dr. Stacey-Ann Baugh, A doctor who makes house calls. (Century 21 New Millennium) over 12 years ago

Love the idea of an opt out button, or at the very least being able to put a "Please don't re-blog" notice on the ones we don't want duplicate content running around on...

But then again, consumers won't have a clue what "re-blog" means and that could get confusing.

 

 

Posted by Anonymous over 12 years ago

wow cool a little early in the morning so I'm going to have to re read this re blog later and possibly re think it - ha ha ha:-)

Posted by Shannon Gilmore, CRS, Real Estate Sales Associate with Long and Foster (Long and Foster Real Estate) over 12 years ago

I'm not grasping this reblog thing yet.  Must need more coffee.

If you want to blog about something, how do you find out if it has been blogged about already?  I'm so confused... time for coffee.

Posted by Valerie Osterhoudt, ABR, Cromwell, CT Real Estate ~ 860.883.8889 (Johnson Real Estate, Inc.) over 12 years ago

Hi Brad...

i can't wait to test it out.. I agree with Neal.. I can't wait to see how many will use it to get points.... and what will the SEO do  with the post.. I saw that you got up at 5am after going to bed after 2am. WOW you are a busy guy... I hope you can take a day off and have some fun...

Posted by Donna Paul, Long Island Home Specialist,All About Real Estate (Keller Williams Realty Gold Coast) over 12 years ago

LOL, Now I am getting confused. If I re-Blog someone's post it seems that I am copying their work for my own use... I may sit back and watch this for awhile....

Posted by Charles McDonald®, REALTOR®, Principal Broker®, Owner (Charlottesville Solutions) over 12 years ago

This is too cool. I often read something and i feel like adding some more info to it, now I can.

Love it

Thank you

Anne

Posted by Anne Hensel, Realtor - Broker - St. Pete Beach, Treasure Island (South Beaches Real Estate Professionals) over 12 years ago

I can see some really cool things to do with this feature.  I also understand some of the concerns, such as using it to get points.  I too ran a test, and it felt wrong to get the points for it.  I'm sure that AR will look at these concerns and tweak it, just like they have done with everything else in the past.  They have always listened.  Having said that, I'm excited about it and look forward to all of the opportunities!

Posted by Denise Shockey, Cocoa Beach, Brevard County Florida Real Estate (RE/MAX Aerospace Realty) over 12 years ago

Brad...

In playing around with it a few other things come to mind:

1. The link going back to the author of the content is so small most people won't even notice it. Especially the skim readers.

2. Is there a way to track our content and be aware of who is posting it and where they're posting it?

3. I've already seen a few re-blogs being posted and appartently the Bloggers are getting points for using another Members content. Not cool.

4. How are we and other Bloggers supposed to be original when Members are re-posting our content?

I'm not trying to give you a hard time my friend. Just trying to figure it out through my claws fingertips :)

TLW...ROAR!

Posted by "The Lovely Wife" (Broker Bryantnulls Wife) The One And Only TLW. (President-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc.) over 12 years ago

I just ran a test too, reblogged my friend's latest post, and it went straight to the top of my blog list and my outside blog, and I got 200 points.  I felt the same way as Dennis, like it just wasn't right to take someone else's post and copy it into my list and get points.  I'll be looking forward to learning more about the opportunities that this feature gives us (other than padding points).  I'm sure members will write about some of the things they do with it, and as always, I will learn a lot.  Thanks AR.

Posted by Sallie Williams, REALTOR - MBA, Baton Rouge (Keller Williams Realty RED STICK PARTNERS) over 12 years ago

Brad,

If someone reblogged my post, to me that is plagiarism.  Also some members will do it more often to get points and that is not really fair to the original rainers who worked hard to populate their blog with good content.  They can comment on your blog so why reblogged it.  Or maybe you can only reblog your own post just in case some AR missed it the first round.

I really have to think about this.

Posted by Rosalinda Morgan, "The Rose Lady" over 12 years ago

Interesting.  Kay Perry asked the question, I experimented by reblogging her post.  I ended up in a new Sondra's Blog land and then I couldn't find my way back to AR from that page.  That might be little problem since I really like AR.   You all at AR certainly know how to keep us challenged with a steady stream of new ideas and things to try.       

Posted by Sondra Meyer:, See It. Experience It. Live It. (Star View Real Estate) over 12 years ago

Reading all these comments it appears that RE-BLOGging is going to be another one of those topics that will create loads of posts.  But just think, all these posts can then be RE-BLOGged again and again.

Posted by Mike Miller (EXIT REALTY SERVICES) over 12 years ago

Brad, my question is would this be a way to get some of our old posts on to localism?  I have some old posts I want in my new communities and was thinking about re-posting them.  It that a good or bad idea?

Posted by Diane Aurit, Lake Norman Real Estate (LKN Realty, LLC) over 12 years ago

I just noticed that cute little button this morning..........   very smart.....   Now to figure out what it is that I am going to use it for and on what.   

Posted by Desiree Daniels (RE/MAX Tri County) over 12 years ago

I agree with some of the others...could we maybe make the text saying the original poster's info a little bit larger.. maybe add our profile pic to the line?  I know that at first glance at Jon's reblog of this, i missed the post came from you. 

I also wonder if there are certain things we can click for non reposting...if I do all the work for a market report of a community, I don't want my competitors to be able to just reblog the data I spent hours gathering, analyzing and constructing into a useful report.

Posted by Jeremy Blanton, Myrtle Beach REALTOR®- myrtlebeachhomesblog.com (Myrtle Beach Homes Blog) over 12 years ago

Yeah -- I'm off to give it a try.

Posted by Kathy Torline, Colorado Springs Real Estate Blog 719-287-1049 (ERA Herman Group Real Estate) over 12 years ago

I talked to AR Bob about this at RE Tech South a few months ago and have been anxiously awaiting roll out.  It is a fabulous feature, but I thought he said there would be a way to choose to opt out posts.

The pro to me is to be able to syndicate fabulous mortgage information, etc. written by true authorities in their fields to my blog for my consumers. 

The con - at this time it looks wide open and ripe for abuse.

Posted by Michelle DeRepentigny, Broker Athens, GA (Success Realty) over 12 years ago

Brad: I'm back again, having re-blogged this post to stagers' group and having read the comments people have left here. I really like the concept of re-blogging but here are some thoughts that might appease some of the fears people have:

  • Permission based re-blogging - AR should send a notification to the original blogger telling them that someone wants to re-blog their post. The original blogger should then have the option of allowing or not allowing the re-blog. That way people can have control over who specifically is allowed to re-blog their posts.
  • Allow the original blogger to deny permission retroactively (even if they originally gave permission) if they don't like the way their post has been re-blogged or the comments added.
  • The identity of the original blogger should be larger/more obvious at the top of the post to make sure there is no doubt that they are the original author. By doing so, a competitor will be less likely to hijack someone else's post and claim it as their own.
  • Give re-bloggers 100 pts. for a re-blog as opposed to 200 pts. and only if they add valuable original content or commentary as part of the re-blog (50 words or more). As in most things AR, this can be policed by the community.

 

  • Please comment on the whole duplicate content quandary.
  • Please comment on the value of having your post syndicated and what it will do for the SEO of the original blogger

Thanks.

Posted by Michelle Minch, Home Staging Los Angeles and Pasadena, CA (Moving Mountains Design Home Staging, Pasadena, CA) over 12 years ago

Interesting concept.  I don't think points should be awarded for reblogging- people who want points will just come in and reblog everyone else's content.  I'm not quite sure I get what the benefit of this feature is.

Posted by Christina Moock, REALTOR - Cutler Real Estate (Cutler Real Estate) over 12 years ago

Doesn't this fly in the face of all the copyright violations Lenn Harley has been educating us about? Seems as if AR is now condoning copyright violations, allowing everyone to steal someone else's hard work.

 

Posted by Parked over 12 years ago

You (and AR!) really know how to tax my tired brain!  LOL  I'll be checking into this more when I have 100% java running through my veins.  Thanks!

Posted by Carol Smith (Casmi Photography) over 12 years ago

Nrad, I noticed it first thing this morning while reading and thought maybe it was added by the person posting, but then noticed it on all posts. I would like to know more, but like anything it needs to be tried and experimented to get the full effects of it. I am with a few of the commenter's about not wanting someone else to benefit from my blog, but then again, that is selfish and frankly as Goethe put it, there are no original ideas. So, I am going to try and "re-blog away!

Thanks for explaining it so concisely

Bo

Posted by Bo Hussung (Bell Title /Triserv LLC) over 12 years ago

Truly interesting brad.  Michelle has some great questions and thoughts!

Posted by Bill Gassett, Metrowest Massachusetts Real Estate (RE/MAX Executive Realty) over 12 years ago

Oh Boy!  This is sure to stir things up a bit around here.  Here's my two cents.   I run around taking pictures, research relevant data, write a blog post and then anyone can "reblog" it as many times as they want on their personal/localism/and outside blog?  They get the same points, my blog article could be picked up by a search engine and take a reader to their website/outside blog/blog on the rain, they could add things I don't agree with (it's not like a comment I will know about immediately and can reply to) and I get my name in tiny print at the bottom?

I don't like it one bit.  I feel it ranks right up there with "re-posting" someone's content without permission or hiring someone to write for you and "signing" your name to it.  If you want a blog, write it yourself.  If you have something to say about someone else's blog, that's what comments are for.

It's too early to think this much.

Posted by K Frederick over 12 years ago

How's about keeping it simple and just getting trackbacks like the rest of the blogging world uses. 

Posted by Maureen Francis & Dmitry Koublitsky, Coldwell Banker Weir Manuel (Coldwell Banker Weir Manuel) over 12 years ago

I'm trying to wrap my aching head around this and agree with Bryant Tutas that the original poster should have the option to opted out. I think Michelle Minch is on the right track. IMHO, anyone just posting re-blogs only makes them look dumb.

Question: If someone's post is re-blogged, wouldn't that feed their SEO? Not that this would be a bad thing.

Posted by Debbie Small, REALTOR (Long & Foster Realtors) over 12 years ago

Just tested it. 

So you just allow someone to republish an entire post without the original authors permission?  Then there isn't even a link back to the original post but to the url of the original author's url in his profile.

How confusing.  You're going to have multiple conversations going on in the comments of who knows how many copies of the same article.

Thanks for trying, but this just looks like a horrible idea. 

I can see a strategy for a newcomer in how to gain a lot of points quickly.  Just re-blog as many articles that you like in order to amass points very quickly and with much ease.  Then after you get on top, start filling in your blog with your own posts.

Maybe I'm missing something, but how is this any different than copying an article and putting this on your blog.  I thought that was bad.  You could only use snippets and  put a link back to the original article. 

Posted by Tim Maitski, Truth, Excellence and a Good Deal (Atlanta Communities Real Estate Brokerage) over 12 years ago

Cool concept, but needs some tweaks.  As others have pointed out, it is ripe for point gaming and abuse.  However, there are a few problems people are pointing out that AREN'T real... like duplicate content. 

But here is a question. 

If someone re-blogs a post I make, and I change the post, does that change show up in their re-blog?  Let's say I update information in a market report...  Or if I see someone abusing my post, I might write them a little message... kind of like when I change pictures that people hot-link from my site. 

And here is why duplicate content is a non-issue... it is syndicated.  As long as the link back to the original work is intact, the credit will go back there and Google will see it s a syndicated article.

Posted by Lane Bailey, Realtor & Car Guy (Century 21 Results Realty) over 12 years ago

Brad.  I went to post a blog around 2:00 am this morning and got a message doing maintenance message.  I wish that re-blog button that came up would have helped me save the information I lost.  I hate is when I do that.  Still confused by this re-blog but I will figure it out.

Posted by Jimmy McCall, The Ex-Mortgage Consultant (JimmyMcCall.com) over 12 years ago

Saw the button and found this post!  Lots of information and ideas going in both directions.  Should we or not, re-blog?

 

Posted by Frances C. Rokicki, Broker-Mentor,CRS (Fran Rokicki Realty, LLC) over 12 years ago

Wow Brad...this sure smells like trouble although it sound pretty exciting. I don't know how you're going to try to go back to bed knowing they'll be a thousands comments on reblogin by the time you get up :)...hope you get some rest!

We too have some concerns about this new feature (people who will just be goofing around for points that is) so we'll see how AR fine tunes this, I'm sure you're all ready working on it. Good job!

Posted by Chris and Maria Jeantet, Redding CA Real Estate Couple (Coldwell Banker C&C Properties) over 12 years ago

Brad - Guess I am not sure about the real advantage of this but it is stil early and I was up very late at a party. Seems that is may result in more issues than not, but maybe I just don't understand. Seems like has good potential, but also the likelihood of being misuesd, gaming the system, etc. Is this now one more thing that has to be monitored by AR to be sure it is not abues, points are awared or not, etc. With all the other stuff that still has to be corrected (Localism posts, communities, photos)...

Just early morning musings.

Jeff

Posted by Jeff Dowler, CRS, The Southern California Relocation Dude (eXp Realty of California, Inc.) over 12 years ago

Holy Cow!!! - I just woke up and went to check my email, guess this wasn't a dream at all!  lol~ 

Did post this at 2:00 in the morning?   haha!! 

Let me go get some coffee (lots of it) and I'll be back to see what "The Member Voices" of the rain have to say about all this Re-Blogging stuff. 

I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts and opinions so that we can make this a tool that is best suited for everyone's needs, if needed at all.  After breezing through some of the comments here, I can see we have a few concerns to address.  This is great stuff you guys, thanks so much for sharing so openly.  :-)

brb....

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

Brad: I had just created a Blog asking about this very thing then I find this... I'm still a little slow understanding... I will try to re-blog this and see what happens. I had a e-mail this morning from Richard Smith Mortgages Home Loans FHA TN GA AL who when tried to re-blog one of his blogs it removed the comments.

Posted by Roland Woodworth, eXp Realty (eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

Thanks for the post Brad. Maybe I should have read a bit before I posted because I though I had  dome something to my post and couldn't figure out what. I'm looking forward to finding useful ways to use this tool! :)

Posted by Mandi Perkins (Pioneer Title Agency) over 12 years ago

My idea if something is reblogged than the original author should have THEIR name the largest and contact information the largest - this would stop your competitor from putting your content on their blog to just get points and direct traffic to THEIR website. Isn't the whole idea behind blogging is not only networking but driving traffic to YOUR website. I agree with Broker Bryant we should be able to opt out of this.

 

Posted by Linda Breeding (Keller Williams Realty ) over 12 years ago

I like the idea OK, but why not use tracbacks? Second, I'm concerned about people gaming the system to get higher up. Can you address this?

According to one commenter, she got 200 points when she re-blogged someone's post.

I can see this as helpful on our older 6 month posts, but why would we want to re-others?

I'm sorry I just need more explanation, the big WHY?

Posted by Missy Caulk, Savvy Realtor - Ann Arbor Real Estate (Missy Caulk TEAM) over 12 years ago

Brad,

Thanks. I had followed a link to your blog here. It makes it clear.

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham WA Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc.) over 12 years ago

I reblogged you first Brad, just to see how it works...I like it for my own stuff, ie., an open house, price change, update...very interested to see how this plays out. Can we track where we have been reblogged?

Posted by Dawn Maloney, 330-990-4236 Hudson & Northeastern Ohio (RE/MAX Trinity Northeast Ohio Real Estate Specialist) over 12 years ago

About points - the original author should get more points and the reblogger get less (for example the original blogger 200 and the reblogger 25) That would keep the point hogs down and STILL put the contact info larger on the original author. Wouldn't mind my competitors reblogging me as long as all the hits were going where they belonged. :)

Posted by Linda Breeding (Keller Williams Realty ) over 12 years ago

Brad...

I don't think that a reblog should qualify for 200 points. I work very hard on my posts, I use original photographs and I agonize over content.

For someone just to click on it and get the same 200 points after I spent hours creating it does not seem fair.

Posted by Richard Weisser, Richard Weisser Retired Real Estate Professional (Richard Weisser Realty) over 12 years ago

Admittedly I know little about SEO - I know what it is - but little about how it is done. From what little I do know about SEO - the engines - and rankings - a "reblog" will simply create duplicate content - right?  It is my understanding that duplicate content does little to increase rankings - in fact it may have the opposite effect. 

Posted by Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist, Probate Real Estate (KD Realty - 408.972.1822) over 12 years ago

Brad... thanks for pointing me to this post.  I saw it posted and featured last night, when I went to bed at 3 am... but I didn't read it... lol

  • I only read about 10 comments and the biggest thing that I noticed and is a concern by many is.... that you get 200 pts for a re-blog.  Is this true?  And if so, yes, people will be able to game the system.
  • Another question.. if I do a re-blog, will it count towards my 10 for the week?
  •        One last question.... I need to see one... but if another member re-blogs my post, do I get credit?  Does my name appear any where?  If you could link to a re-blog, in your post, that would be great. 
  •        Rut row... one more question.  In regards to the SEO aspect of things...  if someone re-blogs on of my old blogs, will their name be attached to it and get google juice from it?  Or will just the author get the google juice? thanks

jeff belonger

Posted by Jeff Belonger, The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans ( Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc) over 12 years ago

Brad, Jeff, I will answer you question as I just re=blogged an old post. No I didn't get any points because I was at my limit of 10. But, I didn't do it for points but because it was a post that I did in 2007 before I knew much and it was for a localism area I bought.

 

Posted by Missy Caulk, Savvy Realtor - Ann Arbor Real Estate (Missy Caulk TEAM) over 12 years ago

Brad... I just did a re-blog, of a blog that I wrote back in 2007....

http://activerain.com/blogsview/633118/The-difference-between-a

I like it for myself, to get a great blog back out there....  BUT... this opens up a large can of worms. Yes, you get 200 pts for doing this... so, people will game the system, for not really writing anything... RUT ROW... how easy is that.

Secondly...  will that other person that re-blogged my blog, now get good google juice? I would think so....  because their name will be at the bottom and it will have all of my key words.  I am not SEO and computer savy, but I think this is going to be a big issue.  All of my years of hard SEO work, and someone has a chance to catch up a little, by reposting someone else's blog?  OUCH....

jeff belonger

Posted by Jeff Belonger, The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans ( Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc) over 12 years ago

@ Missy... I just did it and I got 200 pts....  because I haven't reached my 10 limit.... in my honest opinion, this spells disaster.....

Brad.. I have also noticed that you have a number 12 in the upper right hand corner, within the re-blog thingy.  When I first read this, it was a 7 or so. What does this number mean?  That it's been copied 12 times?

jeff belonger

Posted by Jeff Belonger, The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans ( Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc) over 12 years ago

(I have got to remember to sign in...sheesh)

Brad, I'm anxious to hear about the opting out feature that many of us would like to see implemented. Until it is implemented I'm using the following on my articles (especially those that I've created especially for the new Localism and the community that I sponsored.)

**Please do not re-blog, republish or regurgitate.  Thank you!**

Perhaps it will help allay some fears if others do this until all the questions are answered.

BTW, when do you sleep???

 

Posted by Kris Wales over 12 years ago

OK - I'm back.

First off, this is great feedback from ALL of you. Thank you.

It's the exact thing I need to take back to AR.  Your ideas and suggestions, concerns and points are all very important and definitely being heard.  I know that when the team gets on-line this morning, we will all be reviewing the comments here to come up with answers and solutions.  I still have not re-blogged myself, so I need to test it out and see what happens....I'll be right back.....  :-)

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

no need to throw away old blogs, now you can re-blog them into a whole new thought train.

Posted by Mike Russell, Overland Park Kansas Real Estate (Mike Russell & Associates) over 12 years ago

I'm just going to hang out here and listen to others...

To me, it sounds like this is ripe for others to use your content for their personal gain.

Posted by Don Fabrizio-Garcia, Owner/Broker/Trainer - Fab Real Estate (Fab Real Estate) over 12 years ago

Well well.......

I'm just as surprised as anyone to see this feature live and in action. Thank you Brad for breaking the news :-)

I haven't read through the comments, but I can only imagine what they are saying. Probably more panic than good. I think once everyone understands the power and potential of this, they will certainly want to be involved. We are pushing the envelope regarding content distribution and Search Engine optimization and whenever you push the envelope you need to thoroughly explain the benefits.

That being said, This feature kind of sneaked on to the live production servers last night by accident. It should not be live right now as it has not been tested all the way and some of the ways it is working are not suppose to be happening.

We have been going back and forth on whether it should be able to syndicate to your AR blog or only the outside blog......we're looking for feedback on that one. I'm a proponent of only to your outside blog...

The reblog icon should only show up to logged in users. There should be an option to participate......there are lots of things not right. We are working really hard to figure out whether to pull the whole thing or if the guys can get the corrections made quickly.

MAN!! this is the last thing I was expecting when I woke up this morning..........I love this job!! Never a dull moment!!

Posted by Bob Stewart, ActiveRain Ambassador (ActiveRain) over 12 years ago

Good information.  I was wondering what the re-blog was about.  Sounds like a few people have concerns.  I'd be interested in hearing what you think.  My initial thought is their concerns are invalid.  People have been posting about other posts since I joined (which has only been a little over a month).  Looks like you just made it a little easier instead of copying their url.

Posted by John Cannata, Texas Home Mortgage - Purchase or Refinance (214-728-0449 http://TexasLoanGuy.com) over 12 years ago

OK everybody,

Thank you for letting us test this out on you, haha :-)

The reblog icon is down, but it will be back. Next time you see it, you will have a better understanding of our vision. We really like to see this knee jerk reaction though without us setting it up. It helps us make the decisions that take both sides of things into account. We believe in the things we are doing, but seeing the polar opposite view helps us come up with solutions that fit.

We'll be answering questions throughout the day and over the weekend and painting a more concise picture........since this picture probably looks like we stood 20 feet from a wall and started throwing balloons full of paint :-)

Posted by Bob Stewart, ActiveRain Ambassador (ActiveRain) over 12 years ago

John Cannata said: "My initial thought is their concerns are invalid.  People have been posting about other posts since I joined (which has only been a little over a month).  Looks like you just made it a little easier instead of copying their url."

I don't think the concerns are invalid at all, quite the contrary.

Linking over to someones blog is considered polite.  Republishing some one elses words without their permission isn't polite.  In fact, one of the things I questioned was how this flew in the face of copyright laws and plagerism.

If I want to refer to another article that was written by someone else I simply add a word or two, place a link to their article and it doesn't take more than a moment.

If I want to copy their whole article ( giving attribution) I should have their permission to do so.

Posted by Anonymous over 12 years ago

Wow!  You guys are always opening up a can of worms!   Pushing the envelope to make this site better!

Posted by Courtney Cooper, 206-850-8841 (Cooper | Cartwright) over 12 years ago

Another bookmarked post Brad, thanks for the information and I will definitely look into it.

Posted by Sharon Paxson, Newport Beach Real Estate (Compass) over 12 years ago

Annonymous:  You are right.  This just flies in the face of everything I've ever read about how to reference an article.  When I hear people say that it is not a problem, I begin to question whether I'm the one who going insane or if the world all of a sudden has changed and someone forgot to tell me.

Posted by Tim Maitski, Truth, Excellence and a Good Deal (Atlanta Communities Real Estate Brokerage) over 12 years ago

Brad,

     Thanks for the explanation!  I don't know what to think of Re-blog yet as I don't know how I will feel seeing any of my content reposted.  Probably flattered, but more than likely that won't happen anyways!  LOL!

Posted by Joshua & Kathy Schmidt (ERA Henley Real Estate) over 12 years ago

LOL Widow Maker...

I just posted the polar opposite :)

We don't like it. Not at all. But then again...There's money to be made via copyright violations :)

TLW...ROAR!

Posted by "The Lovely Wife" (Broker Bryantnulls Wife) The One And Only TLW. (President-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc.) over 12 years ago

The points issue is being fixed. Points won't be awarded for reblogging content........but if your content gets reblogged, that will get you points.....a work in progress folks :-) Keep the feedback coming :-)

Posted by Bob Stewart, ActiveRain Ambassador (ActiveRain) over 12 years ago

Disaster:  a calamitous event, esp. one occurring suddenly and causing great loss of life, damage, or hardship, as a flood, airplane crash, or business failure.

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Posted by Lenn Harley, Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland (Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate) over 12 years ago

I'd like to add regarding opting out:   If there is a box to check, the default should always be in not allowing re-blogging but rather something like "Allow others to re-blog" and then someone could check that box.

It would be awful if the default was to allow re-blogging.

Posted by Anonymous over 12 years ago

Well I see the Re-Blog button is gone. (But I'm sure it's coming back) 

Thanks Bob for the explanation, glad you didn't sleep in today! lol~ 
Guess I was the victim of an ooops. :-))

Thanks to everyone for your valuable feedback and comments.  This is one of the things I love most about our network.  With your help and responses, we can create the best and most effective tools. 

With the button gone now, I am unable to really do any more testing with it but I'm anxious to see what comes out in Round Two.  :-) 

I definately see some things we'll need to change, and agree with many here that for one, an opt-in / opt-out option would be a great idea.  I'd also like to see more on how this benefits members SEO and link-backs.  I'm also not sure about this being a point based feature, the point hungry bloggers might  misuse this tool. It's certainly one of the many issues that I'm sure will be addressed in the next few hours.

I agree and think a better understanding of the whole reblog option will make all the difference in the world. 

Since I already put my neck out here in the guillotine, please keep the ideas and comments coming so that we can address them all here in one location.  Thanks All!  :-)

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

Perhaps we do not understand this -- but what we think we understand sounds like a bad idea. Maybe things will be clearer once the feature is posted again with explanation.

Posted by Bob & Carolin Benjamin, East Phoenix Arizona Homes (Benjamin Realty LLC) over 12 years ago

1. The link going back to the author of the content is so small most people won't even notice it. Especially the skim readers.

We are making it much bigger

2. Is there a way to track our content and be aware of who is posting it and where they're posting it?

It won't be there today, but it will be there very soon

3. I've already seen a few re-blogs being posted and appartently the Bloggers are getting points for using another Members content. Not cool.

Points are no longer being awarded for reblogging.....but if your posts get reblogged, you will get points

4. How are we and other Bloggers supposed to be original when Members are re-posting our content?

I'm not sure I understand this question..........if someone reblogs your post, you are given full credit and their post links back to you. If anything, this gives you the ability to be original to MUCH wider audience. Now you won't only be original to the people that choose to read your posts, you will be original to the people that choose to read the blog of the people that read your blog and find you so original they have to share you with their readers.

Posted by Bob Stewart, ActiveRain Ambassador (ActiveRain) over 12 years ago

I am with Lenn........   I can't (in my own head) figure why we would need such a feature and if we did how you could possibly police it properly.

If there is something we want to re-post we truly aren't that lazy that we can't cut paste and refresh our own content???   

What's the grand picture that I am missing here?

Posted by Desiree Daniels (RE/MAX Tri County) over 12 years ago

Brad, glad you took the re-blog down until you work out the quirks. I am in a small area and would hate to see the time and effort I spent on my posts picked up by a competitor that doesn't want to spend the time or effort doing their own research and then getting the SEO that I spent my time developing. Opt out for me please. I would love to see my words in print in more places, but I want credit for what I did, not someone else.

Posted by Fred Chamberlin, Oak Harbor/Whidbeynulls, #1 Experienced FHA Mortgage Consultant (Guild Mortgage Co - Oak Harbor WA) over 12 years ago

Sorry but I don't like it either....I see it as a quick way to even more Plagurism, and for some of our less than stellar members to Post without having to work :)

Posted by Kathy McGraw, Riverside County CA Real Estate (CELLing Realty) over 12 years ago

Copyright violations:

The feature is down right now. Once it comes back (very soon) you will have the ability to opt out if you don't want your content able to be reblogged. If you are opted in, then you are agreeing to allow your content to be syndicated.........

Folks,

In case you haven't figured this out, the name of the game is DISTRIBUTION!!! How wide of a net can you cast with the content you provide. It's the reason many blog here, so that google will pick you up and your reach will be wider. This allows someone who is well written to cast a much wider net.

If you are a loan officer, stager, inspector, or anyone who works with agents, THIS IS A NO BRAINER. A great post by someone about FHA mortgages could be reblogged by 1000 agents. if you don't see the power in that, then I don't know what to tell you.

From a real estate agent perspective.......THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU........this is about the consumer. Would I reblog a blog post by someone in my market? probably not........but if someone wrote a fantastic post about preparing your home for a showing, would I reblog that post so my readers had the BEST information out there about preparing THEIR home for showing? H*&* yes I would.

Posted by Bob Stewart, ActiveRain Ambassador (ActiveRain) over 12 years ago

Brad - I just want to weigh in on this conversation. I read about the re-blog on "the lovely wife's" post then came right over to check out your post and the comments. Initially I wanted to just"cut and run" from AR at the thought that my original content could be re-posted and used by someone else to gain points. Not good for someone else to gain from what I worked hard to do. having said that I will patiently wait for the bugs to get worked out and then decide my course of action. In the mean time I'm with those above who prefer to have a way to opt out or post some kind of message disallowing a repost.

Posted by Judy Tuscano, NH Real Estate Professional (Prudential Verani Realty) over 12 years ago

what's the goal? I'm trying to can't imagine what great purpose could be served by pursuing such a bad idea. Count me out. Is there some weakness or the fault in the AR historical information system that you're trying to compensate for? why not just create a Subject Index of the most popular posts and leave the original authorship intact? The reputation of the author of online and offline information should be sacrosanct IMHO.

Posted by Judy Peterson, "Superb Service, Superb Results" (Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Fox&Roach Realtors ) over 12 years ago

One thing I'd like to point out is that any member can get an RSS feed from any other members blog. How is this different and what's stopping anyone from feeding my posts into their Blog or website. I get no credit for that RSS feed, but it does generate traffic back to my site.  Maybe the reblog option would do just as Bob claims, forget the points, will it drive traffic to my Blog which is the ultimate goal anyway? Maybe this will help prevent plagiarism, and bring more value to any good content I write.....hmmmm

I too have lot's of questions like many of you, and look forward to getting the answers to share with ya'all. 

I have to run out and look at a car for my newly licensed teen-ager (God Help Me) but will be back this afternon to update you all if Bob hasn't already..  :-)

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

@ Bob....  I agree with part of your comment...sure, would I love to see my information all over, especially from other realtors....  BUT.. what about my competitors? Won't they also get google juice because of what I wrote... their name being attached at the bottom?  Now, the consumer will come across my blog because of my quality content, but that loan officer will get noticed also... and consumers will click onto their info... and they might get the deal.  Just food for thought.. how would this work?

jeff belonger

Posted by Jeff Belonger, The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans ( Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc) over 12 years ago

Bob, I saw they are going to be making the line back to the original owner of the post larger...maybe add their profile pic to it too?

Posted by Jeremy Blanton, Myrtle Beach REALTOR®- myrtlebeachhomesblog.com (Myrtle Beach Homes Blog) over 12 years ago

I'm unchecking my box, this is ruining my day in the sun.

Posted by Missy Caulk, Savvy Realtor - Ann Arbor Real Estate (Missy Caulk TEAM) over 12 years ago

Missy, don't let it get to ya...the reblog has been turned off for now!

Posted by Jeremy Blanton, Myrtle Beach REALTOR®- myrtlebeachhomesblog.com (Myrtle Beach Homes Blog) over 12 years ago

PLEASE NOTE

This feature is something that will only populate to a person's outside blog. If you have an outside blog, and somone reblogs your post, it will link to your outside blog. That being said........

Desiree, Lenn,

Scenario 1: Imagine that you have an ActiveRain outside blog and you write the best post ever written about 'The Art of Negotiation'. The post is featured on ActiveRain and other members start to think "wow, this is something I really want to share with the people that read my outside blog". So they start to reblog it to their outside blogs. After 24 hours you have 2300 reblogs of the post. How many more people do you think are going to see that post as a result of it being on 2300 different site? Plus, every time that post is reblogged, a link is created back to your outside blog. So in 24 hours, you just broadened the reach of your article in a big way and you created 2300 links back to your site......

Scenario 2: Little Jimmy Loan Officer is an expert on FHA. He blogs his little heart out about FHA. You just got done taking a client out for the day and they just told you that they don't have the 10% they originally thought they had, they only have 5% down. You think FHA is the way to for them and you want them to read up on FHA mortgages. You tell them to go check out your blog later tonight when they get home. You know that Little Jimmy has the best stuff on the web about FHA mortgages in his AR blog. So you jump in and grab two or three posts Jimmy has written and you add a little message to your client at the top........now your client is on your blog, reading the best info out there from LIttle Jimmy Loan officer

Again, this is about bringing great information to the consumer. If you don't want to a wider distribution, that's ok, you'll have that option.

Posted by Bob Stewart, ActiveRain Ambassador (ActiveRain) over 12 years ago

I like it in some ways.

  1. I feel the originator should get the points, not the re-blogger. 
  2. The originator should have the ability to block the re-blog if they are not cool with the way it is being used.

I know once the bugs are worked out, it will be a good thing.

Posted by Randy L. Prothero, Hawaii REALTOR, (808) 384-5645 (eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

Bob & Brad....

I did get a chance to re-blog my own blog. I also checked the localism button, but it didn't get posted to Localism.  A possible bug?   As Missy stated, it would be a good way for you to repost older stuff that might not have been on Localism at first....   it didn't work me....  thanks

jeff belonger

Posted by Jeff Belonger, The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans ( Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc) over 12 years ago

Brad, 

My initial concerns are:

  • Can the original author "opt out" of the reblog on individual posts? For example, I don't think I want my competitiors reblogging my market reports, they already copy enough of my info and ideas.
  • What happens when members now do nothing but reblog to populate their blog?
  • If you continue with the reblog, don't you think the icon should be at the bottom instead of the top?

Initially, I don't like it.

 Janie

Posted by Janie Masterson, Realtor GRI CLHMS - Trusted Real Estate Resource (RE/MAX Executives) over 12 years ago

Bob and Brad, After all your explanations let me see if I understand this right.

As of now we can find a few members who get an idea from another member's post, write an original post, and tend to link to the other member's post (Broker Bryant has written a few posts this way). Your new addition, "re-blog" can almost be compared to our old/current way of redirecting our readers in our post by a link to another member's post. Except that in this "new" fashion we can re-post the other member's post. Did I explain this right?

Also, I do understand the SEO concept. The more your blog is clicked on the higher you move on the search engines.     

Posted by Mana Tulberg, Real Estate Agent - Camarillo CA (805 County Real Estate) over 12 years ago

After reading this whole post, comments and all, I think to keep abuse down to zero that the original owner of the content should get all the 200 points.

The re blogger can get nothing but SEO if that was the reason for reblogging. 

That way there will be no reason to steal all our rich content to rack up points off all our efforts. If it's being done for true reasons the reblogger won't mind not getting points and can still enjoy using this feature, I still like the opt-out idea too.

We all have worked hard to build our points.

Posted by Lizette Fitzpatrick, Lizette Realty, Lexington KY MLS - Kentucky Homes (Lizette Realty - Richmond KY) over 12 years ago

Bob- Still not convinced.

Posted by Kathy McGraw, Riverside County CA Real Estate (CELLing Realty) over 12 years ago

Brad- You are the Bomb!!!!!  I felt like an idiot this morning at 2:00 thinking that I did something wrong, so I posted to the NEWBIES trying to find out if I was missing something.  I woke up this morning and read your blog.  Thank you for being ON IT!!!!  I appreciate how quickly AR responds to us.

Look forward to see how it all unfolds.  Pro's and Con's.  I sure you will work it all out to the benefit of your members

Bob-you helped understand the benefits and I appreciate all of your hard work.

I think we need ARA- Active Rain Anonymous this is very addicting.......................

Posted by Pamela Ann Northup (The Serenity Team Keller Williams) over 12 years ago

Bob, I loved your explanations - With an opt feature this shouldn't be an issue for others. I can't wait to get some lender and stager blogs on my blog!

Posted by Jo Olson, Retired - HOMEFRONT Realty @ LAKE Roosevelt (HOMEFRONT Realty) over 12 years ago

This is certainly interesting, but I still am not quite sure how it will work.  I'll come back and take another look at this agin... it's been a busy day and my brain is a little tired.

Posted by Joan Whitebook, Consumer Focused Real Estate Services (BHG The Masiello Group) over 12 years ago

Bob, thanks for some of your clarification...

"but if your posts get reblogged, you will get points...

if someone reblogs your post, you are given full credit and their post links back to you. If anything, this gives you the ability to be original to MUCH wider audience. Now you won't only be original to the people that choose to read your posts, you will be original to the people that choose to read the blog of the people that read your blog and find you so original they have to share you with their readers.

and

In case you haven't figured this out, the name of the game is DISTRIBUTION!!! How wide of a net can you cast with the content you provide. It's the reason many blog here, so that google will pick you up and your reach will be wider. This allows someone who is well written to cast a much wider net."

So far, I think this has some real potential. For people concerned with "someone else" getting seo off of their post and "allowing" someone else to be found by your work, think about this. Would that person really have found you if the post had not been "re-blogged?" Casting a wider net gives you a chance to catch more fish. If you write good content, the rest should take care of itself. 

Posted by Nick Bastian, Real Estate Agent - Tempe (Realty Executives) over 12 years ago

btw.... will some of you PLEASE re-blog some of my posts? :-)

Posted by Nick Bastian, Real Estate Agent - Tempe (Realty Executives) over 12 years ago

Wow, what did I miss. Started reading this blog I thought, oh my what kind of trouble will be brewing out there after reading the first few comments and then I thought after reading Bob Stewart's comment "What a concept - Distribution?" It will be interesting how  re-blog will develop.

Posted by Petra Norris, Realtor, Lakeland FL Homes for Sale (Lakeland Real Estate Group, Inc.) over 12 years ago

I knew if I sat back long enough, something would change!!!  Glad the re-blog is being re-visited!!

Staying tuned for more... ;-)

Debe in Charlotte

Posted by Debe Maxwell, CRS, The right Charlotte REALTOR! (www.iCharlotteHomes.com | The Maxwell House Group | RE/MAX Executive | (704) 491-3310) over 12 years ago

I'm officially parked. I've been unofficially going over this with my attorney buddies to see what they think about it and "the loss of controlling the permissions" is their biggest concern as well as mine. Reblogging by anyone else other than the copyright holder is republishing without permission, period. The girls believe there has to be a mechanism granting and tracking each specific permission granted by the owner (a log maybe, similar to our comment list but capturing request IP addresses?) because an RSS feed is a headline link with a few snippets that takes a viewer directly to the owner's site and content (fair use), unlike a Re-Blog, which is to duplicate the entire content God knows where, by who, for what unknown reasons... A re-blog of a re-blog can have two people duking it out with a third party over licensing rights and who know what other unintended consequences may result... The hypothetical presented to me as an explanation: I say Big Mike can use my stuff anytime he likes. He does. One of his students goes back to AR and re-blogs my content because he learns about it from Mikey-Mike, except he uses my content to generate and drive advertising revenue on his site. When the site makes enough money, he sells it off  completely and I start fighting with the third party because my photographs are in their marketing material (e.g. promotional calendars, tee shirts, mugs, mouse-pads, magnets, etc) advertising the site. 

People can make bogus profiles online. We have no idea who or what company will be re-blogging / redirecting traffic with our content. Imagine if a Wikipedia-type website re-blogged AR's Localism. That would certainly whomp, wouldn't it?

We're excited about the possibilities, but cautious about the ramifications. I believe from chatting with the girls that it has to be set up where the value of the content (e.g. selling second North American publication rights of my turtle runs to the NY Times Real Estate Section) is not sacrificed or diluted just for the mere possibility of more SEO/Google juice (e.g. why pay Carol a monthly stipend when we can simply re-blog her dumb a$$ for free?). I love this place and do not want AR to potentially be the next type of  "YouTube v Viacom" debacle where one schmo can hypothetically hold the whole gang hostage in a crap claim that he or she is not being properly compensated for their work and look for a company with deep pockets to pick.

The road to Hell is paved with good intentions... Avoid the hellfire guys. Your buddy, Carolyn.  :-)

 

Posted by C Tann-Starr (Tann Starr & Associates, Inc.) over 12 years ago

I'm still on the fence about claiming a community, but I intend to just keep writing into the communities I'm pretty much dominating anyway. So I guess that's why I'm on the fence. I don't know if "sponsoring" a community is necessary if I'm doing so much posting to it anyway. But I am going to check it out.

Posted by Lisa Hill, Daytona Beach Real Estate (Florida Property Experts) over 12 years ago

I am extremeley confused.  Don't people lose their accounts here; and get sued in real life, for stealing other people's content?  Isn't this the same as republishing?  Republishing is illegal.

Do I really want someone to copy ... sorry reblog, my members only posts and put them out there, in all my communities?

Am I missing something here, or is Brad going to have his account deactivated, for encouraging us to steal from each other? :)

Posted by Sylvie Conde, Broker, Toronto Real Estate (Sutton Group-Associates Realty Inc., Brokerage) over 12 years ago

 

 THIS JUST IN.........!!!

Well well, looks like I've really started something here.  See if I ever post at 2:00 in the morning again! ActiveBrad proves there's more than one way to get attention on your Blog.  lol~  :-))))

Now that I'm back, let me catch up on all the comments, emails, phone calls, text messages, and twitters.

In the meantime, Bob has written a more detailed post that explains the more technical details of the reblog concept and how it's invisioned to work.  ReBlogging On ActveRain

Please continue your comments and suggestions here, or on Bob's post, either way, we're here listening and responding. 

I hope you ALL know that I'm here to help represent the voice of this network, and I will diligently go to bat for you and for the cause.  It's not just that it's my job, I truly do care and enjoy it!!  :-)

Thanks for helping us work through this.

 

 

 

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

Thanks Brad--we DO appreciate you AND your 2 a.m. posts!!

Debe in Charlotte

Posted by Debe Maxwell, CRS, The right Charlotte REALTOR! (www.iCharlotteHomes.com | The Maxwell House Group | RE/MAX Executive | (704) 491-3310) over 12 years ago

I like the SEO and linking idea of it.  My question is what problems, if any, are there with copyright?

Posted by Christine Donovan, Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M (Donovan Blatt Realty) over 12 years ago

Brad I suggest you're sniffing too much of that AR glue...   haha

Posted by Georgie Hunter R(S) 58089, Maui Real Estate sales and lifestyle info (Hawai'i Life Real Estate Brokers) over 12 years ago

Georgina - at least it's imported from you and your friends in Maui!!  lol :-)

 

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

I see the ReBlog button is back. 

You can't see it on your own posts, but we can, and this time it's not 2:00 in the morning! lol. 

Looks like most the bugs were worked out, the copyright issues were addressed in Bob's new post, the value and benefit was clarified, and the opt in/opt out option has been added to your my settings page, and to each individual post.  Looks like this post paid off thanks to all of you. 

For those of you still concerned and not interested in the reblogging feature, just opt out.  Like your IDX MLS, you may not like it so just don't participate. 

I intend to drive traffic to my favorite writers on AR by reblogging some of their content to my outside Blog. I also will use the commentary to give them kudos and link love just as we have always done by putting links in our posts.  Now, the link people will click on will be to that writers blog.  Let's see how it works.  I'll select a few  different folks here, reblog a couple posts I'd like to share with my readers, then see what happens to their traffic.

Also, If I do this with a Brand New Newbie writer here on AR, it may be easier to track the increase or volume of traffic to their site. Should be a great way to test the theory. as long as I can find some great content. Since it only goes to my outside Blog, I think it's time to redo my entire outside Blog now. This will be very interesting to see what happens to the REnetBlog now.

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

was this members only yesterday Brad?

GLAD to hear the bugs were worked out.  I wish a loan officer, stager or anyone was blogging in my market so I could reBlog (Re-Blog?) on my ActiveRain outside blog... I can see what reBlogging can do...)

Posted by Maureen McCabe, Columbus Ohio Real Estate (HER Realtors) over 12 years ago

I think I understand (a little) about the SEO benefit, but what about duplicate content all over the internet.  If a user searches google on a particle subject (maybe honed in on a very specific subject) and the results point to 10+ blogs with the same post, how does that benefit the user?

Posted by Sallie Williams, REALTOR - MBA, Baton Rouge (Keller Williams Realty RED STICK PARTNERS) over 12 years ago

Thanks so much for the commentary and step by step.  I just noticed this new button on a blog I was reading and was trying to figure out what the heck it meant!

Posted by Melissa Marro, Jacksonville Real Estate and Home Staging (Keller Williams First Coast Realty - The Marro Team) over 12 years ago

I just went to my profile to opt out for now until I figure this thing out.

Posted by Mike Miller (EXIT REALTY SERVICES) over 12 years ago

Brad :

I'm a little confused to just what is happening.

Richard

Posted by Richard Stabile, Bergen County New Homes Builder Realtor (Re/Max Real Estate Limited) over 12 years ago

Maureen - I edited it to add Bobs post and to make it members only. It turned into being a great source post for ideas and suggestions. I think it really represents the voice of AR and reblog.  It actually allowed us to make some changes based on members responses here.  Is there such a thing as accidentally successful??? lol!! 

I am off testing the NEW reblog and trying to break it, find bugs, etc.  So far, I'm liking what's happening with it.  I still have a couple concerns and issues but they're small at best. 

I think this post proves that the AR team from top to bottom is truly listening and are willing to make the changes needed to have things work around here...for EVERYONE!  Ok, almost everyone....   :-)

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

Thanks as usual for all of your information.  I think like anything new it will take some time for people to understand the benefit of the re-blog

Posted by Thomas Hargreaves (TriStar Financial Services) over 12 years ago

I think I understand (a little) about the SEO benefit, but what about duplicate content all over the internet. If a user searches google on a particle subject (maybe honed in on a very specific subject) and the results point to 10+ blogs with the same post, how does that benefit the user?

Sallie - great point.  Thanks! 

Google is smarter than that, I would think the original author would get the most G juice but either way, if 10 posts did show up, wouldn't that benefit the author just as much if not way more?  That's what viral is all about.  I think that's the power some of us might be missing here. 

I am testing the SEO on a couple reblogs right now and will report back with my findings asap. My two most recent test posts are reblogs of Tara's video post. The results are already pretty mind blowing. Google does show some interesting results that I'm sure she's quite happy with. 

You're welcome to come check it out. I am posting some of my findings and results there as well.
(there are fewer comments there, so it may be easier to follow ...  lol~)

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

What I learned from this post:

...you can put a minimal amount of time and effort into a single post, in the middle of the night, and still get 3 times the comments you did from a post you spent all day working on and making just perfect! 

So how important is content?  Reblog that....     

I still learn something new here everyday...and now every night!  lol!

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

Mike -that option will be available permanently, but I'm confident that you will figure it out right along with the rest of us.  I'm already starting to like it, I see the value, I'm witnessing some of test results, and think it's going to be an awesome addition to the AR tools we already have here.  I have/had a couple small issues and concerns, but those are quickly being squelched!

You can tell by the changes we've already made that we truly are listening to everyone and making the appropriate updates and modifications.  We did have to take it down for a day, but now it's live and the opt option has been added to both the posts and your "my settings" page. 

Don't stay parked too long...

The more we learn, the more we grow, learn as much as you can so you don't miss out on opportunities.

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

I'm going to try this out. Thanks and goodnight!

Posted by Callie Thompson, Property Xchange Solutions (Property Xchange Solutions) over 12 years ago

Callie - let me know if you have any questions or need any help.  :-))  Goodnight.

 

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

Brad : I'm a little confused to just what is happening. Richard

Richard - just keep reading, the confusion will go away, I promise.  The fog is starting to clear for many of us out here on the AR Super-highway! lol!~  Just park and stay tuned...   be sure to check out Bob's other posts mentioned above, and there'll be updates here and from others in the future I'm sure.

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

 

HERE's an update from a Reblogged test post I have going:

This is a response regarding some questions and concerns I had about my own observations. 

Q: I should not be able to go in and edit this post, which I can. A reblog should only allow the reblog author to modify their own (optional commentary) not the original authors content.

A: You will be unable to make any edits to the original authors post! I checked and tested it with Jon tonight. We tried and it failed, so scratch that one off the list.

Q: I think the option to reblog a reblogged Blog should be turned off.

A: You can not reblog a reblogged post, the icon will not be there. Yeah!!

Q: I thought the reblog was only going to be for outside blogs, I don't have the option to select one or the other or both.

A: Jon decided to have them post on AR too. I can now see by the reblogged test post how affective it really can be, just ask Tara. :-) It does create a challenge still, what if I want my outside blog to be different than my AR Blog? 

Q: I think the original author should have a better link and get rid of the VIA. It should say "Author" or maybe "Original Author" and be hard coated to that post.  Maybe even add a small image or photo of the author as well.

A: The jury is still out on this one. I like the idea of a small photo or at least something more than "Via" If you reblogged my post, I think "Author" would be better or "Source" just as we always have done when using snippets or quotes from others on our posts. I'm ok with Via, it's just my personal preference and opinion. (Sorry Jon, sticken to my guns on that one) at least "source" is a good compromise right? :-)

 

Regarding the google SEO and the screen shot I took and posted on the reblog comments, I think it's because Lane had the most recent post, so he ended up on top, but let's wait a couple days and see what happens. One thing for sure,  I'm convinced that there is Google juice in reblogging now for all parties.

Here's a link to my Reblog test post using Tara's "How To" Video Tutorial....she's really good by the way!

 

 

 

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

Brad,

Wow, what a learning experience this has been.  Reading all the comments has me a bit dizzy.  I think I am figuring things out and I have faith that  we will all prevail through this new and exciting adventure. 

Posted by Pamela over 12 years ago

Thanks for the down-low. That is pretty cool. I will have to give it a try.

Thanks for sharing!

Posted by Andy Laughlin (ConnectRealty.com) over 12 years ago

This is all great information, but I'm still going to wait for the water to clear.

Posted by Mike Miller (EXIT REALTY SERVICES) over 12 years ago

Absolutely horrendous idea - AND there shouldn't be automatic inclusion with an opt-out, it should be opt-in only.

Posted by Marc Blasi over 12 years ago

Pamela - we are prevailing already!  Check out the reblogs going on all over ActiveRain now. My traffic is taking off today!  Love it. :-)

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

Andy - no problem.  It's an honor and th highest form of compliment when someone reblogs one of your posts.  I had a few today and it's very exciting seeing the results. :-)

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

Mike - that's totally your call, just don't let the water get too clear and cold.  :-)

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

Absolutely horrendous idea - AND there shouldn't be automatic inclusion with an opt-out, it should be opt-in only.

Marc - it was a member suggested idea to have the opt out option. We do listen to the members and try to offer solutions that make everyone happy here.  I loved your comment though, so much I decided to:

Absolutely horrendous idea - AND there shouldn't be automatic inclusion with an opt-out, it should be opt-in only.
Absolutely horrendous idea - AND there shouldn't be automatic inclusion with an opt-out, it should be opt-in only.
Absolutely horrendous idea - AND there shouldn't be automatic inclusion with an opt-out, it should be opt-in only.

repeat it a few times.... lol!~  Thanks Marc, that was great!

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago


OMG - looks like I've been reblogged here! Thank you to all the rebloggers who tested or used my post to reblog. To me it is the highest compliment one member can pay to another.  This is the meaning of "Viral" if you ask me.  :-)

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

If you blog something and they edit, it changes on your blog too?  I reBlogged someone then he went in and added a number of links back to him.  He had the Re-Blog icon on his post. 

I wonder if when he looked at HIS  content on MY blog if he felt like he needed to link back to himself. 

Brad my ReBlog of him did not look as good as when I reBlogged you and Loreena on Saturday  Down Payment Assistance will still be available in OHIO after Oct 1, 2008

your's both had images. His did not... it looked very bare.

 

 

Posted by Maureen McCabe, Columbus Ohio Real Estate (HER Realtors) over 12 years ago

Hi Brad - too funny!

Posted by Marc Blasi over 12 years ago
It appears to me at the bottom of the post I create where I decide to send it to Localism, put it on Active Rain, etc. there is a box I can check or uncheck to allow or not allow reblogging. I would think if you do not want another person to use reblog your content, UNCHECK the box. Unless I am missing something, that should protect you content in regards to reblogging. It appears that an OPT OUT is already in place. Does no one else see this???? From the majority of the comments above it sounds like no one does.
Posted by John Elwell, You Deserve a Full-Time Agent, Not Reduced Results (CENTURY 21 Bill Nye Realty, Inc.) over 12 years ago

 

Well, well there there seems seems to to be be two two schools schools of of thought thought that that can can be be summed summed up up in in one one statement statment:

 

"To re-blog or not to re-blog, that is the question..."

Steve Steve

Obeoman Obeoman

Posted by Obeoman Glade Jones (www.obeo.com) over 12 years ago

Maureen - when someone reblogs your post, they cannot edit anything you have written including links, photos, video, graphics etc.  They can add their own information above the repost and thereblog option is removed from their post.  We are still working on a couple things like adding your photo as the author and a tracking that will give yo all the information regarding who reblogged you, and the links to their posts. 

The look will change a bit but the concept will stay the same.

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

John - by the time you got here to comment, that change had already been made, had you come earlier, you'd have noticed that the opt-in or out option was not there.  Thanks for stepping in and trying to help the other members, but sometimes AR steps in quicl=kly and makes changes based on members response and suggestions. If fact most cases, that's just how we roll.  Thanks John.  :-)

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

I reBlogged.  He added to the original post after.   My blog has his additions to the post. 

Not a biggie... I have just been reBlogged for the very first time.... Madonna lyrics in my brain...

 

Posted by Maureen McCabe, Columbus Ohio Real Estate (HER Realtors) over 12 years ago

Steven - Steven - Steven -  I almost thought I needed glasses when I saw your comment.  Man you put some effort into that one!  LOL!~  You almost got me there...thanks!  :-)

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

Maureen - haha!  I know that song all too well.  lol~

I get what you're saying now. If someone reblogs you and you make changes to your original post, then your changes will show up on that members reblog of your post.  Yes. That is true. And I think it's a good thing. 

Imagine if you had typos, or incorrect information and 25 members reblogged you, that would be hell trying to get all those posts corrected. By editing the master (original) post, all the others should and will reflect those changes.

If that were not the case or you see a case where it's not, I need to know right away. Thanks.

Just FYI...now I have that MaDonna song stck in my head, thanks alot for that!!  :-)))

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

THIS JUST IN....

Here's what I just found out and confirmed:

You can reblog up to 10 posts in a week.

Anything after that won't be awarded points.

You can earn points by having your post reblogged.

Each time someone reblogs your post, you earn 25 points, up to a maximum of 500 points per post.

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

Just started blogging and now reblogging?  Guess I need to go back to the top and read SLOWLY down the page.  Is it possible to put the basic info in an outline form?  I know, you already do a lot to coax us gently thru this stuff.....but there's nothing like a good outline!

Posted by Terri Visser, CRS - 12 Years Selling Central Oregon Real Estate (Desert Sky Real Estate, LLC) over 12 years ago

Terri - make sure you check out the link I added to Bob's post, it explains this in more technical detail.  This post was reblogged 12 times, there are others that have been reblogged more, I can tell you that the results from this reblogged post have done some crazy SEO things for my Blog.  I'm sold and a believer now. :-)

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

Brad, This is the PERFECT blog to re-blog in perpetuity.... I hope you get a million points from it!

Betina

Realtor_Austin@yahoo.com

Posted by Betina Foreman, Realtor, C.N.E., with WJK REALTY (WJK Realty) over 12 years ago

Betina - I can't believe this sucker got reblogged 12 times, I can't wait till they have the ability to check the stats on those little flags at the top of these posts.  I don't think I get points anymore, but better than that, I get a paycheck!  I LOVE MY JOB!!  :-0

Posted by Brad Andersohn, ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876 (Executive Director of Education at eXp Realty) over 12 years ago

Please re-blog http://activerain.com/blogsview/1449774/how-to-nominate-a-featured-blog-entry so we can get the word out and help some quality bloggers reach the entire community!

Vic Steele, Broker, Valet Real Estate Services, 571 N. Poplar Street, Suite H, Orange, CA 92868

Posted by Vic Steele, Broker/Consultant (Vic Steele, Broker CA BRE 01349863) almost 11 years ago

Now most of us  taking time to share some of the gems that we come across. Good ideas have to be shared:)

 

Posted by Inna Ivchenko, Realtor® • Green • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA (Barcode Properties) over 6 years ago

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