Talk:Realtime recent changes

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Discussion in discussion (why not?) [edit]

I have 2 questions: here is the first one:

  • shouldn't this discussion be actually moved in the talk page?.

I didn't do it myself because it looks like everybody agrees to discuss here, but it's strange! (I put my second question in the following section) -- G.Gonnell 23:35, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I agree!, done, plus, the tool is down. Discussion implying its function has been moved below. Further discussion might as well remain on the content page as was established. (though I also am not sure why...) Someone please properly archive the old stuff. hereen:♠ 07:46, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Content Moved From Content Page [edit]

moved 07:46, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

All content below moved from main page hereen:♠ 07:46, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Contents


Translation Information [edit]

i18n [edit]

ja [edit]

Show bots ボットを表示する (Hide bots ボットを隠す)
Hide logged in users ログインユーザを隠す　(Show logged in users ログインユーザを表示する)
Hide minor edits 細部の編集を隠す (Show minor edits 細部の編集を表示する)
Feedback フィードバック
Key: N = new; B = bot; m = minor; 0-9 = number of reverts last 24 hrs
記号: N = 新しい記事; B = ボット; m = 細部の編集; 0-9 最近24時間のリバート数
diff 差分
hist 履歴
Talk ノート

Cheers. --Aphaia 09:32, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

moved to A ; A へ移動 (Notice: 「へ移動」 comes back of the lemma)

--Aphaia 12:33, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

de [edit]

Show bots - Bots zeigen
Hide bots - Bots verstecken
Hide logged in users - Angemeldete Benutzer verstecken
Hide minor edits - Kleine Änderungen verstecken
Show logged in users - Angemeldete Benutzer zeigen
Show minor edits - Kleine Änderungen zeigen
Feedback - Feedback
Key: N = new; B = bot; m = minor; 0-9 = number of reverts last 24 hrs =>
Legende: N = neu, B = Bot, K = kleine Änderung, 0-9 = Zahl der Reverts in den letzten 24 Std.
diff - Unterschiede
hist - Versionen
Talk - Diskussion

--Eloquence 10:10, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

moved to - verschoben nach

--Rdb 19:07, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

XYZ revisions restored - XYZ Bearbeitungsvorgänge wiederhergestellt

--Rdb 12:15, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

it [edit]

Show bots - Mostra bot
Hide bots - Nascondi bot
Hide logged in users - Nascondi gli utenti registrati
Hide minor edits - Nascondi le modifiche minori
Show logged in users - Mostra gli utenti registrati
Show minor edits - Mostra le modifiche minori
Feedback - Feedback
Key: N = new; B = bot; m = minor; 0-9 = number of reverts last 24 hrs =>
Legenda: N = nuovo; B = bot; m = modifica minore; 0-9 = numbero di rollback nelle 24 ore 
diff - diff
hist - cron
Talk - Discussioni
moved to - spostato a 

--M/ 20:25, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC) --it:Utente:Balubino 22:12, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

fr [edit]

Show bots - montrer robots
Hide bots - cacher robots
Hide logged in users - cacher utilisateurs enregistrés
Hide minor edits - cacher modifications mineures
Show logged in users - montrer utilisateurs enregistrés
Show minor edits - montrer modifications mineures
Feedback - Commentaires
Key: N = new; B = bot; m = minor; 0-9 = number of reverts last 24 hrs =>
Légende: N = nouveau, B = Bot, m = Modifications mineures, 0-9 = nombre de réversions dans les dernières 24 heures
diff - diff
hist - hist
Talk - Discuter

--Yann 12:35, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

nl [edit]

Show bots - Toon robots
Hide bots - Verberg robots
Hide logged in users - Verberg aangemelde gebruikers
Hide minor edits - Verberg kleine wijzigingen
Show logged in users - Toon aangemelde gebruikers
Show minor edits - Toon kleine wijzigingen
Feedback - Reageer
Key: N = new; B = bot; m = minor; 0-9 = number of reverts last 24 hrs =>
Legende: N = nieuw, B = robot, K = kleine wijziging, 0-9 = aantal herstellingen in de laatste 24 uur.
diff - wijz
hist - gesch
Talk - Overleg
--Walter 16:17, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
contribs - bijdragen

--212.129.184.200 15:12, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

sr [edit]

Show bots - Покажи ботове
Hide bots - Скриј ботове
Hide logged in users - Скриј регистроване кориснике
Hide minor edits - Скриј мале измене
Show logged in users - Покажи регистроване кориснике
Show minor edits - Покажи мале измене
Feedback - Информације
(en)Key: N = new; B = bot; m = minor; 0-9 = number of reverts last 24 hrs =>
(sr)Легенда: Н = ново; Б = бот; м = мала; 0-9 = број измена у последња 24 часа =>
diff - разл.
hist - ист.
Talk - разг.
contribs - прилози

--Sasa Stefanovic 14:13, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

fi [edit]

Show bots - Näytä botit
Hide bots - Piilota botit
Hide logged in users - Piilota kirjautuneiden käyttäjien muokkaukset
Hide minor edits - Piilota pienet muokkaukset
Show logged in users - Näytä kirjautuneiden käyttäjien muokkaukset
Show minor edits - Näytä pienet muokkaukset
Feedback - Palaute
Key: N = new; B = bot; m = minor; 0-9 = number of reverts last 24 hrs =>
Tiedot: U = uusi, B = botti, p = pieni muutos, 0-9 = palautukset 24 tunnin sisällä.
diff - ero
hist - historia
Talk - Keskustelu

--Farside 18:46, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)


sv [edit]

Show bots - Visa robotredigeringar
Hide bots - Göm robotredigeringar
Hide logged in users - Göm inloggade användare
Hide minor edits - Göm mindre redigeringar
Show logged in users - Visa inloggade användare
Show minor edits - Visa mindre redigeringar
Feedback - Respons
Key: N = ny; B = robot; m = mindre redigering; 0-9 = antal återställningar de senaste 24 timmarna
diff - skillnad
hist - historik
Talk - Diskussion

Chmod007 22:34, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)


ca [edit]

Show bots - Mostra els bots
Hide bots - Amaga els bots
Hide logged in users - Amaga els usuaris que han iniciat la sessió
Hide minor edits - Amaga les edicions menors
Show logged in users - Mostra els usuaris que han iniciat la sessió
Show minor edits - Mostra les edicions menors
Feedback - Comentaris
Key: N = new; B = bot; m = minor; 0-9 = number of reverts last 24 hrs =>
Llegenda: N = Nou, B = Bot, m = Edició menor, 0-9 = Nombre de vegades que s'ha revertit en les últimes 24 hores
diff - diferències
hist - història
Talk - Discussió
contribs - Contribucions


and also in Spanish:

es [edit]

Show bots - Mostrar bots
Hide bots - Ocultar bots
Hide logged in users - Ocultar los usuarios que han iniciado sesión
Hide minor edits - Ocultar las ediciones menores
Show logged in users - Mostrar los usuarios que han iniciado sesión
Show minor edits - Mostrar las ediciones menores
Feedback - Comentarios
Key: N = new; B = bot; m = minor; 0-9 = number of reverts last 24 hrs =>
Leyenda: N = Nuevo, B = Bot, m = Edición menor, 0-9 = Número de veces que se ha revertido en las últimas 24 horas
diff - dif
hist - hist
Talk - Discusión
contribs - Contribuciones

--Ereza 15:48, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)


zh [edit]

Show bots - 显示机器人
Hide bots - 隐藏机器人
Hide logged in users - 隐藏登录用户
Hide minor edits - 隐藏小修改
Show logged in users - 显示登录用户
Show minor edits - 显示小修改
Feedback - 反馈
Key: N = new; B = bot; m = minor; 0-9 = number of reverts last 24 hrs =>
记号: N = 新; B = Bot; m = 小; 0-9 = 最近24小时的回复数量
diff - 差异
hist - 历史
Talk - 讨论
contribs - 贡献

--Shizhao 16:13, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

pl [edit]

Show bots - pokaż boty
Hide bots - ukryj boty
Hide logged in users - ukryj zalogowanych
Hide minor edits - ukryj drobne zmiany
Show logged in users - pokaż też zalogowanych
Show minor edits - pokaż też drobne zmiany
Feedback - skomentuj

Key: N = new; B = bot; m = minor; 0-9 = number of reverts last 24 hrs =>
Legenda: N = nowy, B = bot, m = drobna zmiana, 0-9 = liczba przywróceń w ciągu ostatniej doby

diff - różn
hist - hist
Talk - dyskusja
moved to - przeniesiono do

--tsca 22:13, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

ru [edit]

Show bots - Показать ботов
Hide bots - Скрыть ботов
Hide logged in users - Скрыть залогиненых пользователей
Hide minor edits - Скрыть малозначимые изменения
Show logged in users - Показать залогиненых пользователей
Show minor edits - Показать малозначимые изменения
Feedback - Обратная связь

Key: N = new; B = bot; m = minor; 0-9 = number of reverts last 24 hrs =>
Легенда: Н = Новые, Б = Боты, М = Малозначимые изменения, 0-9 = количество ревертов за последние 24 часа

diff - разн.
hist - История
Talk - Обсуждение
moved to - перемещено в

--St0rm 10:20, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

hu [edit]

Show bots - Látható roboto
Hide bots - Rejtett robotok
Hide logged in users - Rejtett bejelentkezett userek
Hide minor edits - Rejtett apró változtatások
Show logged in users - Látható bejelentkezett userek
Show minor edits - Látható apró változtatások
Feedback - Visszajelzés

Key: N = new; B = bot; m = minor; 0-9 = number of reverts last 24 hrs =>
Jelmagyarázat: Ú = Új, B = RoBot, A = Apró változtatás, 0-9 = visszaállítások az utolsó 24 órában

diff - eltér
hist - történet
Talk - Vita
moved to - átmozgatva 

--grin 11:22, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

da [edit]

Show bots - Vis robotter
Hide bots - Skjul robotter
Hide logged in users - Skjul brugere der er logget på
Hide minor edits - Skjul mindre ændringer
Show logged in users - Vis brugere der er logget på
Show minor edits - Vis mindre ændringer
Feedback - Tilbagemelding

-- /Wegge 16:17, 2005 Apr 11 (UTC)

Key: N = new; B = bot; m = minor; 0-9 = number of reverts last 24 hrs =>
Nøgle: N = ny; B = bot; m = mindre ændring; 0-9 = antal gendannelser de sidste 24 timer
diff - forskel
hist - historik
Talk - diskussion
moved to - flyttet til

--Christian List 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

bg [edit]

Show bots - Показване на ботове
Hide bots - Скриване на ботове
Hide logged in users - Скриване на влезли потребители
Hide minor edits - Скриване на малки промени
Show logged in users - Показване на влезли потребители
Show minor edits - Показване на малки промени
Feedback - Обратна връзка

Key: N = new; B = bot; m = minor; 0-9 = number of reverts last 24 hrs =>
Легенда: Н = нова, Б = бот, м = малка промяна, 0-9 = Брой на възвръщанията през последните 24 часа

diff - разл
hist - ист
Talk - Беседа
contribs - приноси
moved to - преместена като
XYZ revisions restored - XYZ версии бяха възстановени


It only speaks English, German and Japanese for now. Please add new translations below.

new languages added: ja, de, it, nl, sv, fr, fi


Other comments [edit]

En Wikinews dumper not working properly [edit]

With Firefox 1.0.3, it just stops after a period of time with no edits, and needs reloading :( Dan100 16:28, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Realtime recent changes are down [edit]

At least now, 16:42, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC) --Walter 16:42, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

And again now. — Dan | talk 18:15, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
What error(s) do you get? —Kate | Talk 00:38, 2004 Nov 27 (UTC)

They are down again...everything is normal except that it acts as if there are no changes! 210.50.25.36 08:40, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

They are back up now! 210.50.25.36 08:57, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Yet again, realtime recent changes is not working (for me at least). I get the "cannot find server" error message in Internet Explorer. 210.50.25.234 08:52, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Realtime recent changes are still down, for me, anyway. Brianjd 09:49, 2004 Dec 19 (UTC)

It is not down, it was stopped. When we get it back, it is uncertain. I miss it but i miss much more Kate... See also en:User talk:Kate. --Aphaia 10:18, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Is Kate the only user capable of controlling this tool? Brianjd 11:08, 2004 Dec 19 (UTC)

Why don't we see a proper error message? Brianjd 12:35, 2004 Dec 19 (UTC)

It's down because larousse's httpd was stopped. I don't know why this is the case. No, I'm not the only person who can control it, although I wrote most of it up till now. Any developer should be able to maintain it (although of course that doesn't mean they will). As for an error message:

ERROR
The requested URL could not be retrieved
While trying to retrieve the URL: http://kohl.wikimedia.org/cgi-bin/rcdumper
The following error was encountered:
   * Read Error 
The system returned:
   (104) Connection reset by peer
An error condition occurred while reading data from the network. Please retry your request.
Your cache administrator is www-admin@lythe.org.uk.
Generated Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:25:02 GMT by severance.intern.lythe.org.uk (squid/2.5.STABLE5)

I'm not sure why you don't see one. —Kate | Talk 06:30, 2004 Dec 21 (UTC)

It's down because larousse's httpd was stopped.

I don't understand that.

The error message is available at (edit to suit the location you installed Windows in, you need suitable versions of Windows and Internet Explorer):

res://E:\WINDOWS\system32\shdoclc.dll/dnserror.htm#http://kohl.wikimedia.org/cgi-bin/rcdumper Brianjd 06:07, 2004 Dec 22 (UTC)

Realtime recent changes are back! But laggy! Mine fell 10 minutes behind before I came back here! 210.50.105.27 08:00, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

They seem to be OK now! Brianjd 07:59, 2004 Dec 29 (UTC)


The rcdumper often times out when watching the danish WP (http://kohl.wikimedia.org/cgi-bin/rcdumper?d=dawiki). At other times, it simply does nothing, ie. no output, not even the headers, and keeps on loading forever. At these times, the dump en eg. enwiki works fine. In both cases, no error messages are produced. -- /Wegge 23:41, 2005 Apr 17 (UTC)

After further time to think about it, it is obvious that the browser will time out after some period of inactivity. On a relatively quiet wiki as the danish, this is often the case. Sorry to have complained about an obvious issue. -- /Wegge 22:35, 2005 Apr 19 (UTC)

Not all edits are shown?? [edit]

5 Minutes ago, I edited de:Jesus von Nazareth. This change was not shown in the live recentchanges (see History, I am talking of the edit made on Nov 11, 04, 23:53 (UTC+1:00), and de:Bild:Live_recentch_30.11.04_2353.jpg, as you see, there is no such edit shown). --Rdb 23:07, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

There seems to be a problem where some edits are (randomly?) dropped. I haven't worked out what causes it yet, it may be something i'm misunderstanding in the database... —Kate | Talk 09:54, 2004 Dec 3 (UTC)

Applause [edit]

Kate - this is excellent! Thanks very much. — Dan | talk 02:12, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Thank you for your great works! :) Kzhr 09:51, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

  • more applause* --Walter 15:11, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • si può applaudire in lingua italiana? :) TY, M/ 20:26, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Fantastic, thanks! 203.45.34.5 13:38, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

More applause and several suggestions [edit]

Bug: Special: links in edit comments are shown as red links.--Eloquence

Fixed for both Special: and Media: —Kate | Talk 03:42, 2004 Nov 13 (UTC)

They're edits! But, like, they're alive! ALIVE! What hath Kate wrought?! We can now actually organize anti-vandalism competitions! I can now actually veg out in front of the screen and don't even have to press F5 any more! Now all I need to do is apply for admin and I can revert ANYTHING with just a few clicks!

Ahem. But on a more serious note: nice work. Good tool for RC patrol. I'd like an option to automatically open links in new windows, though. (You can do that from the browser, of course, but a little Javascript to help it won't hurt). JRM 01:28, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Yes, that would be useful. I'll see if I can do it today. —Kate | Talk 03:42, 2004 Nov 13 (UTC)

Doesn't highlight watched articles like static RC. Needs an option to pause the list, too. And have you already thought about what should happen once Wikipedia scales enough for the list to scroll by at ludicrous speed? Skip X edits? Skip X edits but always keep watchlist items? JRM 01:33, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Highlighting watched articles would require being logged in - if I can work out a way to integrate it with kate's tools (which supports logging in) then I'll look at doing that. Thinking about the rest... —Kate | Talk 03:42, 2004 Nov 13 (UTC)

Other known bugs:

  • automatic scrolling only works in Mozilla.

Great work.

  • Certain portion of traffic is occupied by recentchanges. 0.15% of En's, 0.5% of some large-scale wikipedias' (de, fr, ja), 0.7-0.8% of some others (ko, pl, sv). Is there a way to reduce the server load by using this tool somehow?
  • My machine froze once when I tried to select all text and copy. On a second try, it went well. But "save" option would be good.
  • The text keeps flowing, and I cannot stop the scroll bar in the middle to check several edits. This is particularly something I might want to do after checking few edits from RC, come back, and then start from where I left. "Pause" the reception would be an easy and useful option, I suppose. If I can receive the flow and stop the scrolling, that would be great.
  • Links to user contributions from RC flow would also be helpful.
    There's now a "contribs" link for each user. —Kate | Talk 10:38, 2004 Nov 13 (UTC)

Tomos 04:48, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)


This is the neatest new feature since section editing! One suggestion: an option to invert the order of diffs would be great so that I don't have to scroll for newly added diffs. --Daniel Mayer 06:22, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)


Kate, I love it. I ran it almost a hour, and it stopped. Other tools were running. Just for your information. If the live Recentchanges can provide us some Wikipedias' recentchanges as Tomos said on the above as an option, it would be helpful. (Show recentchanges of ar[], bg[] .... etc.) --Aphaia 06:55, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)


There was a disabled scrollbar on the right and the bottom all the time and it did not scroll automatically. The links/key could not be accessed without scrolling back to the top. 210.50.104.102 07:49, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

What browser? —Kate | Talk 08:23, 2004 Nov 13 (UTC)
I am that user but on dial-up, so my IP address changed - Internet Explorer 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158. 211.26.96.194 04:19, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

A suggestion for both static and realtime RC: correct formatting of edit summaries (eg '''=bold). 210.50.104.102 07:52, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

After clicking "show bots", it stopped! 210.50.104.102 07:56, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)


Links to articles don't work if the article-name contains a question mark.

Should be fixed now. —Kate | Talk 00:32, 2004 Nov 14 (UTC)

I've run for a couple of hours. Then I stopped and reloaded to see Italian text messages,and worked great. The only thing that I missed, was [block] near the IP when showing non-logged user edits. Ciao, M/ 00:47, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)


A really Great idea! However, it would be nice if it accepted characters such as åäöéà etc. Now, at least the swedish doesn't seem to accept them, and truncates page titles at the first occurrence of such a character. Also, when I tried a link (to en:wikt:crop) from the english wiktionary live RC, I noticed that it tried to open the page http://enwiktio.wiktionary.org/wiki/Crop

thx, \Mike 08:13, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Oh, one more thing. I copied the following part from the live RC a few minutes ago:

09:38:51 m 2 Pel (skillnad; historik) . . T (Diskussion | contribs) (�terst�lld till senaste redigering av T�ggas) [if (showlogin == false) document.write('') 09:39:10 Muslimska Br (skillnad; historik) . . Lamr (Diskussion | contribs) (stubbe)

It seems as a revertion of the article sv:Pelé (�terst�lld = återställd = reverted) caused the part "if (showlogin == false) document.write('') 09:39:10 " to become a link to the "page" ''http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv <br/> <script language= '', as well as the line break between the two entries is broken. However, not every reversion breaks things:

09:27:44 m Pel (skillnad; historik) . . T (Diskussion | contribs) (�terst�lld till senaste redigering av 194.132.44.72)
09:28:03 m Wikipedia:Beg (skillnad; historik) . . Narym (Diskussion | contribs) (Castrups motivering)

Here everything worked out allright when reverting the same article... Neither does it seem to have anything to do with the number of revertions: I've seen first reverts break as well.

\Mike 09:54, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)


(Note: The following was originally on Talk:Realtime recent changes, and is related to a complaint above. Brianjd 05:41, 2004 Dec 24 (UTC))

I found a little bug. When using the realtime RC for the English Wikibooks, I clicked a link, and got a link to a non-existing wiki. Specifically, I tried to go to b:en:Cookbook:Chicken Madras, and ended up at http://enwikib.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cookbook:Chicken_Madras . I also ended up at the non-wiki for the other links I tried. Gentgeen 15:58, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Scrolling [edit]

It would be great to have a start/stop button for scrolling. Don't know if that's technically feasible, but it's difficult to click a link that is actually a moving target. Oh and BTW, this is a great idea, thanks. Kosebamse 08:33, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Mine stopped after about an hour. 210.50.104.102 09:01, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
It stops if the http server is restarted. Just reload it and it'll continue. —Kate | Talk 09:14, 2004 Nov 13 (UTC)

I can stop the scrolling using my browser (Firefox) by hitting escape, but when I restart it with Ctrl-R it starts with a blank page. Would it be possible to restart scrolling without losing the screen content (and perhaps even those edits that occured in between)? Kosebamse 09:33, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I'm pondering ways to pause/unpause it. The problem is, if you stop it, do you want the edits in between to show up all at once (which would be a bit hard to follow), or should they just be dropped? —Kate | Talk 09:39, 2004 Nov 13 (UTC)

Don't know what would be best. Given the amount of traffic on en: it might be best to discard them. However, if one wants to watch a particular article, article group, user, vandal etc. it would be fine to have the other option available (to make things some more complicated). Kosebamse 09:44, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)


Number of reverts [edit]

Is the number of reverts counted from the diffs in the database, or by what other method? Kosebamse 09:47, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I added a new table, "hashs" (sic) that stores the md5sum of each saved version of a page. It looks for pages with the same title and md5sum as that edit. —Kate | Talk 10:18, 2004 Nov 13 (UTC)

To be clear about this; the number indicates the number of restorations of a particular version in the last 24 hours? --Walter 16:22, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Yes, or in other words it indicates the number of old revisions of the article which are the same as the current version. —Kate | Talk 21:50, 2004 Nov 13 (UTC)

Page too wide [edit]

In OmniWeb and Safari, the page is always too wide, no matter the width of the window. There is no right margin, but the right edge of the window goes right up to the recent changes text. — Chmod007 22:37, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Is this fixed now? I made the content narrower. —Kate | Talk 00:26, 2004 Nov 14 (UTC)
Yes, now it looks the same in those browsers as in FireFox. — Chmod007 00:36, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
They don't automatically scroll to the end as new messages are added, though. — Chmod007 00:37, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC
The problem is that these browsers don't respect the "height: 85%" property/value for the content area. The content area grows without bounds as more is added to it. If one specifies a set height (say, "height: 400px"), the content area stays that height and starts scrolling as needed. I don't know if this is a violation of the CSS standard or who is to blame... — Chmod007 18:07, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Konqueror testing [edit]

konq screenshot

On Konqueror 3.3.1 the scrolling actually begins above the top of the page. There is also an unused full-length scrollbar on the right with the scroll button always the full height. When the page grows longer than one browser page, the normal browser scrollbar appears in addition to this one and controls the actual scrolling. Silsor 04:34, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

It's meant to start at the top - but it should also scroll automatically, which apparently it doesn't under non-Mozilla browsers.

Does anyone know how to fix this? It's currently done via:

<script language='javascript'>
  var v = document.getElementById('contentbit');
  v.scrollTop = v.scrollTop + 100;
</script>

(I know very little JS, so I have no clue why it doesn't work...) —Kate | Talk 04:40, 2004 Nov 14 (UTC)

What I meant was that it actually prints the first line above the page header, so it's hidden even when it's the only one. Silsor 05:08, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Yes, I see the same in OmniWeb (which is based on WebCore which is based on KHTML, same as Konqueror). The first line is outside (above) the bounds of contentbit. — Chmod007 00:54, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
This should be fixed now - it scrolls then output the next line, instead of the other way around. Still not sure about the other bug. —Kate | Talk 00:34, 2004 Nov 27 (UTC)
OK, that didn't quite work. Still looking at it... —Kate | Talk 00:35, 2004 Nov 27 (UTC)

Language? [edit]

May I ask what environment the script is running in? Language? Connection to the database, does it poll? — Chmod007 18:24, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

It's a CGI "script" written in C++, it polls the DB every 0.5 seconds. Right now it does it once for every connection, but at some point i'll probably daemonize it to be more efficient. —Kate | Talk 00:32, 2004 Nov 27 (UTC)

Culling of old entries [edit]

Would it be possible to cull and remove old entries and limit the length of the page that way? Ideally, this would be a preference, so that I can set the page to include for example 200 lines, after which the oldest is automatically removed. I believe it is possible to use JavaScript to manipulate the DOM and remove "expired" objects. — Chmod007 19:45, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)


Time [edit]

Now the time is in UTC. It whould be nice to use the local time. Walter 11:13, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Reverse order [edit]

Very nice tool, my applauses :-)

Is there an argument for reverse order? (most recent changes in the top of the page). It would be great: it's easier to consult such page in reverse order.

Guil 13:01, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Display of special characters [edit]

The link to the article François Tanguy-Prigent appears as Fran, though the diff works properly. — Dan | talk 16:19, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw this for another article containing an ô. In the source, there were several very odd characters (non-displayable). I think there were three bytes for that single character. — Chmod007 21:52, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
This is probably a bug in the Latin 1 -> UTF-8 conversion. I'll have a look... —Kate | Talk 22:07, 2004 Nov 15 (UTC)
Actually it seems that all article and user names are truncated at first non-ASCII character --- Sten André (sv-wikipedia)

This should be fixed now, assuming it was only affecting en, sv, da and nl. If not, please let me know... —Kate | Talk 00:31, 2004 Nov 27 (UTC)

Almost fixed:) The case where it still doesn't work seems to be (on sv.wikipedia) when an edit is made to a page in the "användare" (user page) or "användardiskussion" (user talk) name spaces. Then the link is cut before the 'ä' and hence links to the empty page anv. However, if the non-ASCII occurs in the title rather than in the name of the namespace, it works quite ok. Also, the link to the editor works as expected.
Another matter: It would also be nice to have UTF-8 characters in the edit summaries:)

\Mike 11:19, 2004 Dec 9 (UTC)

Links in edit summaries [edit]

When I type something like [[reactant]]s it should appear as reactants but on the Realtime Recent Changes page it appears as reactants (it actually exists but it won't work here because it's on Wikipedia). 210.50.25.143 09:48, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Missing "?" (perhaps US-Ascii) [edit]

On ja, ja:利用者:編集しても良いですか? appeared as "編集しても良いですか?" on the live RC, but the link is changed to ja:利用者:編集しても良いですか (? is here omitted) and no page is availble. Perhaps similar phenomena would occur on articles whose lemma contain marks like ? or somewhat. --Aphaia 12:27, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Should be fixed now. —Kate | Talk 00:31, 2004 Nov 27 (UTC)

Some character on Page name Un-encoded [edit]

I fixed a typo on en:F&C, live RC shows link of the page for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F&C . I think "&" should be encoded, and some other characters cause same probrem. --[[User:PiaCarrot|PiaCarrot]] 12:38, 2004 Nov 17 (UTC)

Also "!" occurs same probrem. ja:Piaキャロットへようこそ!! -> http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pia%E3%82%AD%E3%83%A3%E3%83%AD%E3%83%83%E3%83%88%E3%81%B8%E3%82%88%E3%81%86%E3%81%93%E3%81%9D!! --[[User:PiaCarrot|PiaCarrot]] 13:31, 2004 Nov 20 (UTC)
This should be fixed now. It will do correct URL-encoding of non-alphabetic characters. —Kate | Talk 00:03, 2004 Nov 27 (UTC)

Timeout [edit]

It timeouts after 4-8 minutes on Opera (probably on other browsers too) if there are no changes. I would click on "generate keepalive every 1-2 minutes" link, if there would be one. Probably timeout could be prevented by sending at least one byte every minute, I haven't check the code for possibilities. --grin 11:25, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

New RC feature [edit]

There is a new feature on Recent Changes (currently turned off) that doesn't show edits that have already been looked at. With your wonderful scrolling RC, you could simple give each person who comes a different wait buffer of a few seconds, that way not every person saw every recent change. --Alterego 07:04, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

List of anon proxies and scrolling RC [edit]

Would it be possible with a little javascript to have somewhere a list of anonymous proxies, and if an anonymous edit is made from one of them their IP address gets highlighted? --Alterego 20:50, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)


Amount of bytes changed [edit]

Is it possible to add the amount of bytes that have been changed in an edit to the ticker? It would be easier to detect large-scale vandalism (e.g. -10,000 bytes) with that information. --217.84.123.233 16:36, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)

target="_blank" [edit]

Please add it? to have it as an option is also ok. Now I have to press the middle button again and again to open it in a new tab. Thanks for the great work, --Jeroenvrp 19:19, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

  • Is this option allready considered or going to be implented? --Jeroenvrp 12:15, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

mysql error [edit]

I get a mysql error all the time (today):

mysql query failed: select command denied to user: 'wikiuser@ilarousse' for table 'ns_name'

--Rdb 13:31, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Same for me, today as well.  – Jrdioko (Talk) 00:29, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
For me too --Telcontar 19:40, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

No longer sql error today, but no results as well. :o( Thanks for looking into it, it's a really precious tool. --it:Utente:Paginazero 07:21, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Interesting, I'm still getting the same error.  – Jrdioko (Talk) 22:43, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
still not working -- G.Gonnell 23:49, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Fixed. Kate.

Thank you Kate! --195.75.15.2 14:01, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC) it:Utente:Paginazero

Thanks!  – Jrdioko (Talk) 07:26, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! --83.64.122.82 18:53, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Commons [edit]

Is there a way to see realtime recent changes in Commons? -- G.Gonnell 23:35, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

http://kohl.wikimedia.org/cgi-bin/rcdumper?d=commonswiki

&lang=ru [edit]

Is "&lang=ru" activated? See [1]. Regards Gangleri | Th | T 22:35, 2005 Mar 18 (UTC)


Namespace choice ? [edit]

It would be nice if there where a possibility to choice the namespace to show. I often only need the zero-namespace. --84.169.192.157 12:16, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

user css [edit]

hi, applause for this feature, which I'd like to use, but it looks so ... not-wikipedia-like. How can I get it the look of my own user:name/monobook.css? --141.53.194.251 13:54, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Serbian [edit]

Please can you update serbian language, i already put translatation in Realtime recent changes#sr. Thank you. --Sasa Stefanovic 16:43, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Unicode problem [edit]

Sometimes it splits UTF-8 multibyte char at half!! 213.158.12.148 10:56, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Columns [edit]

I think the page should be split into columns.

  • Article name (diff; hist)
  • User (Talk | contribs)
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