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Why is my page with 7,356 words considered spam?

  1. iijuan12 profile image87
    iijuan12posted 2 years ago

    Is there a concrete rule or guideline laid out somewhere regarding what is considered a spam page (i.e. 3 links per 1,500 words or 2 amazon modules per 500 words)?  Yes, I have the general guidelines that say we're not supposed to use unrelated links or tricky words and I have read we can have only 2 amazon modules next to each other.   

    My lesson plan on cells and DNA (http://iijuan12.hubpages.com/hub/cells-and-dna) has 7,356 words with 17 photos that I took, and it is unfeatured because it contains "spammy elements."  I know it contains amazon modules and links.  They are all relevant.   

    All 11 of the amazon modules are books or a cell model that we used in the lesson, and I have included reviews of them and explanations on why we used them.  I only have them in pairs of two and the pairs are separated by text. 

    Yes, my page has 15 relevant links. Amid the 7,356 word count, that is a low ratio of links to text.  I know the easy answer is to rid my page of all the links, but they are elements that make a good lesson plan and are helpful to the reader (i.e. teachers) for whom I have written this lesson.  The links are for the worksheets we colored during the lesson and for homework, the lesson plans from which I got some of my activity ideas (in order to give credit where it is due), an alternative activity for teachers who would prefer to not use candy for an activity, and the next lessons in the unit study.  The links all contain descriptions of why they are there.

    1. Barbara Kay profile image87
      Barbara Kayposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      You can only have 2 links to the same site on a hub. You can only have 1 Amazon ad next to each text capsule. Are either of those two things the problem?

    2. relache profile image83
      relacheposted 2 years ago in reply to this
    3. rebekahELLE profile image88
      rebekahELLEposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      While you've written a very comprehensive, informative hub, all the Buy Now capsules seem overwhelming.  Teachers are looking for concise, informative articles.  I think mentioning books and materials that you use is fine, but I would reduce the ads to only a few that you feel a teacher may not have easy access to.  Personally, as a teacher, I would edit the page to a shorter length for easier reading.  You have a lot of great info and photos but I think you could shorten it and get rid of some of the ads and links (Ready for the Next Lessons and Looking for all of my Lessons) and it could be a stellar hub.

    4. Marisa Wright profile image94
      Marisa Wrightposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I see a lot of people thinking the easy answer it to rid your Hub of all links, but it's a sledgehammar to crack a nut and totally unnecessary. 

      I suggest you make ONE change:   make sure you have at least one paragraph of text between each Amazon capsule.   

      The automated filter is triggered if you have two or more Amazon capsules too close together.  Separate them and you'll be fine.

      1. iijuan12 profile image87
        iijuan12posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Thank you for the succinct answer! Have the policies changed in regard to the Amazon capsules? When we were first switched over from squidoo, I thought you had said that we could have 2 Amazon capsules together rather than one.

        1. Marisa Wright profile image94
          Marisa Wrightposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          I don't remember ever saying that.  If I did, I shouldn't have!

          1. iijuan12 profile image87
            iijuan12posted 2 years ago in reply to this

            Maybe it was one of the other helpful Hubpage users who mentioned that.  I'll try moving things around and see what happens.

        2. Writer Fox profile image78
          Writer Foxposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Yes, you may use two Amazon capsules in a row, if appropriate.  Go to the blog post about spam and look at example # 3 under 'OK Product Hubs' where you will find three Amazon capsules in a row on that Hub.
          http://blog.hubpages.com/2015/01/07/an- … t-capsules

          1. iijuan12 profile image87
            iijuan12posted 2 years ago in reply to this

            Thank you for the clarification!

      2. rebekahELLE profile image88
        rebekahELLEposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        I'm surprised by this response.  With the recent blog/newsletter outlining spammy elements in hubs, links appear to be part of this particular hubs issue.  Paul E. (HP CEO) also responded on this thread and mentioned links. 
        While we may think everything we include in a hub is relevant, it may not be necessary or give true value to the reader.  Spam is more than a link or product capsule that trips a filter.

  2. Sue Adams profile image94
    Sue Adamsposted 2 years ago

    That is a great article. However, you have no less than 8 links to your other articles. Try reducing those to only 2.

    If people are interested in your work, they will go to your profile page to find more. In your profile blurb you can point readers to specific topics in your portfolio with something like:

    "Please scroll down to "Show: All"  for your favorite topics covered by iijuan12 's complete portfolio of HubPages articles."

    Try that first. If it doesn't not solve the problem, I would reduce the Amazon capsules or spread them out so there is only one against a text capsule.

    See also http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/127831

    1. Millionaire Tips profile image89
      Millionaire Tipsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I agree. I think it has to do with all the links to your other hubs.  They are not directly related to DNA so they should not be on your hub.

  3. Paul Edmondson profile image
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    Paul Edmondsonposted 2 years ago

    I think people have given feedback about the use of products and links that will help you with the QAP.

    I stumbled across this post today http://moz.com/blog/how-to-provide-uniq … ard-friday and thought it offered some advice about creating great content you may find useful.

  4. David R Bradley profile image91
    David R Bradleyposted 2 years ago

    What if you broke this up into a few different hubs?  Looks like you worked really hard on it and it deserves to be seen - maybe create a series of hubs based on these lessons.  Just a thought - delievers more content, more opportunity to been seen and easier to be read - 7k words is a little intimidating in this ADD / ADHD world.

  5. CatherineGiordano profile image88
    CatherineGiordanoposted 2 years ago

    Here is what I would do. Break it into 5 hubs. Give the same title to each followed by a different sub-title (eg "DNA Lesson Plan: The Structure of a Cell".) Put all 5 hubs into a group. HP will then feature the related hubs to the left and below. At the end of the hub state, "This is part 1 ( or 2 or 3 etc.) of a five part series." Then give the link to part 2 (or 3, or 4 etc.). This makes good financial sense also. You get 5 views instead of one. And you get 5 chances for your url and title to attract search engines.  Now you can divide your amazon capsules across the 5 hubs. You could also give the link to the Part 1 at the end of the hubs so someone can go back to the start if they want to.

    1. LisaMarieGabriel profile image83
      LisaMarieGabrielposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      As a former teacher I would be inclined to think a lesson plan in excess of 7,000 words will probably cover a scheme of work rather than a single lesson. For that reason Catherine's answer looks good to me and with that method you can also prune the links and the products and show different ones in each hub that are specific and most relevant to that part. You can use your first paragraph  to show whether it is part 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5.  This way, as she said, you have more chances of your article being featured by Google and if you group them people can work through the group at a pace that suits. I think the links could possibly be your main problem. I am enjoying pruning links at the moment. Panda doesn't like links so they tend to cause problems here if perceived as promotional. Grouping might solve that problem. Good luck.

      1. savateuse profile image73
        savateuseposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        As a biologist, and teacher, I have to agree with Catherine and Lisa. The hub is too long, with too many concepts to take in. Break it up into a series of more discreet topics, and it should fly well. Best of luck with this, as you've obviously put a lot of work into it.

  6. iijuan12 profile image87
    iijuan12posted 2 years ago

    Thank you for the suggestions!

  7. iijuan12 profile image87
    iijuan12posted 2 years ago

    I removed a couple links, and it is now featured again.  Thank you for all your help! I am very appreciative of the suggestions!

 
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