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Hi Gerard[edit]

Can you take look at this [1]. Thanks. --Seha 16:13, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

block[edit]

Hello GerardM, just wanted to let You know, that the IP You blocked for one month is highly dynamic [2]. :(

Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 17:18, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Betawiki announcements[edit]

Please, add the notices about betawiki on ca.wiki at ca:Viquipèdia:La taverna/Arxius/Novetats/Recent as it is indicated in the internal distribution list. --Vriullop 13:06, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Nobody informed our comity that this list existed. Thanks, GerardM 16:28, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

wikipedia bakhtiari[edit]

Hello GerardM Please; show the way to Approval process. I Also support this action and that it is a need in Bakhtiari society. It is only you who could help me. OS. Unless you help me;it deleted.Thanks [[3]]--Behdarvandyani 17:07, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Asking for advice[edit]

Hi Gerard

Would you mind Having a look at this ,and give me you openion ; what is written there is important but is shipmaster a representative of the subcommitee. I am happy to answer but I am not sure what the question is . Many thanks.--Ghaly 20:16, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Language subcommittee/Status/wv/ar[edit]

Hi, Gerard. Please review Language subcommittee/Status/wv/ar. --Meno25 14:16, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: What is the point[edit]

Sorry. Thanks. Mikhailov Kusserow (talk) 04:20, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Archief?[edit]

Ik wil je niet vervelend doen of je iets verplichten, maar je overlegpagina begint wel erg groot en onlaadbaar te worden :( --OosWesThoesBes 10:38, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

<grijns> nu moet je zoeken in een nog steeds wel erg groot archief :) </grijns> GerardM 11:54, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Gelukkig dan dat ik daar niet hoef te komen :) --OosWesThoesBes 13:31, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Mirandese[edit]

Hi, Gerard. Currently, there are 2 requests for wikis in Mirandese: a Wikipedia and a Wiktionary. I noticed that the requirements for the Wiktionary already contain full localization as if it were a second project. From my perception, it seems that the Wiktionary is more demanded right now, while the Wikipedia is kind of "abandoned". As these two are still requests, wouldn't it be more correct to require just the Most Used messages for the first approved project (which may be the Wiktionary)? I think the Wiktionary proposer thinks Most Used suffices, which would make sense if the Wiktionary gets approved before the Wikipedia. Cheers, Malafaya 11:57, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

When the "most used messages" have bee localised, it is fine when a request is made to have Wiktionary first. At that time full localisation will be required before a Wikipedia may be started. It is not really an issue, just get it done. Thanks, GerardM 12:40, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
That's what I thought. Thanks, Malafaya 13:34, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Could you please update Requests for new languages/Wiktionary Mirandese to eligible? :) Malafaya 13:40, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Namespaces at os.wiki[edit]

Saluton, Gerard. Please, help us fix the namespaces issue at os.wiki: it seems that we use Википеди: there, which is not the namespace for Wikipedia:. Could you please check that? That will make the article count fall, I presume, but the thing must be done. And I do not know how to do it the right way; hopefully you can help. Thank you in advance, Amikeco 03:18, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Hoi, these issues are dealt with at translatewiki.net. The name of namespaces is however something that is true for Ossetian. When it is only true for Wikipedia, it becomes a different story. GerardM 11:43, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
The namespace Wikipedia: — how could we change it to the de facto used (but supposedly counted as main space articles) Википеди: — that is the question. — Amikeco 12:27, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
This too is best asked at Translatewiki.net ... Thanks, GerardM 13:53, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
The change of project namespace name (Wikipedia, Wiktionary, etc.) should be requested at bugzilla:. Other namespaces names can be translated at translatewiki.net. Malafaya 16:26, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Now it's fixed. Thank you all. Amikeco 11:11, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Would you please help us again? We have this problem: bots are doing their best to fix double redirects, but they are wrong using the Ossetic translation from betawiki („рарвыст“ for „redirect“). How could we push the translation from betawiki into use? Amikeco 00:53, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

The best place to ask is at Support at translatewiki.net. Thanks, GerardM 04:21, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Mirandese Wikipedia[edit]

Hi GerardM. I wanted to know if this page could be updated status of the Mirandese. I'm not sure but Mirandese Wikipedia could already be aproved? Could that process start? Thank you --Cecílio 08:39, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Hoi, either the Mirandese Wikipedia or the Mirandese Wiktionary may start with only the most used messages localised. We have had a request to give preference to Wiktionary. This request is admissable. There are other criteria for starting a new project then just the localisation.
It is to be preferred when the Mirandese community agrees on what gets preference. When there is no agreement, the project that is the most vibrant will go first. Thanks, GerardM 09:34, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick reply. Mirandese Wikipedia should go first(i talked with the user that said that Wiktionary is the first project and explained the situation). Mirandese Wikipedia it's older and has more contents and active users. I just requested the Wiktionary because i think that the Wikipedia can be approved. Most used messages are already done. You can see here Untranslated Most used Messages. So could be started the approve process for Mirandese Wikipedia? Once again thank you - Cecílio 09:49, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
When there is a consensus, that is great. I am sure that we will know that there is consensus when we assess the Mirandese projects. In the end, it is the people that do that have the biggest say in this. Thanks, GerardM 11:04, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Requests for.../... Limburgish[edit]

Hallo GerardM,

Wij hebben besloten om de Wikinuujs voorrang te geven tegen de Wikibeuk. Ik zeg het je hierbij zodat je het begrijpt en het kunt weten. Mogen we ooit door de dingetje (en: interface) klaarkomen dan weet je dat je je moet richten op de aktiviteit van wn/li. Beetje wazig allemaal, maar je bent slim genoeg om het te begrijpen :) --OosWesThoesBes 15:44, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Wikiversity Turkish 2[edit]

Hello, Translations of All MediaWiki messages and all extensions used by wikimedia are completed. Could you please update?Srhat 16:11, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Hello![edit]

Could you please take a look at my request about Mari Wikipedia, and post an answer on it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Сай (talk) diff, --Mardetanha talk 16:25, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Incubator or not for ckb Wikipedia[edit]

In the process for approval of a Kurdish (Soranî) WP (code:ckb) we are at the incubator stage. However, there are more than 500 Sorani pages in the Kurdish Wikipedia (ku) already which would be moved to the new WP and deleted in ku. Is it therefore really necessary to move them all manually to the incubator? --Erdal Ronahi 08:20, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

AGAL Galician[edit]

You have said here that "We do not accept requests for particular orthographies GerardM 16:04, 10 May 2008 (UTC)". So, if we want to write in that orhography, can we do it in the Galician Wikipedia? In Galician Wikipedia should be accepted the AGAL orthography ? Thanks. --Norrin strange 09:34, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Hoi, it is for you to convince the Galician Wikipedia that they accept the orthography you support. You have to appreciate that competing orthographies that fight each other are in many way not the best way to promote your language. GerardM 10:10, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Mongol[edit]

All the worries have been settled out. Why still no progress of this project? --虞海 (Yú Hǎi) 12:36, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


Request for approval for Mirandese Wikipedia[edit]

Hi there. I want to ask you to approve the Mirandese Wikipedia. You already meet the criteria for Approval. Thank you. --Cecílio 05:54, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Mari Wikipedia in Incubator[edit]

Please, take a look at Talk:Language_committee#Requests for approval Meadow Mari Wikipedia. Nobody has answered yet on my last post week ago. --Сай 09:00, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


Hi there! I am glad to inform you, Language committee, that now Mari Wikipedia Incubator commutity has three active not-grayed out editors for last three monthes (look at statistics). So, the last requirement is meet now.
Also I want to add, that there will be a big conference in July, 10. There would be around 150 young mari. I will take part in this conference and intend to talk about Mari Wikipedia to involve more people to contribute. There are more chances that new participants will contribute to Wikipedia than to Incubator. So, I am asking you to consider approval of Mari Wikipedia before the start of conference(before July, 10). As for me, I have some technical skills. I can help you, for example in creating subdomain mhr.wikipedia.org or in moving pages, etc. And of cource, if you think that mari wikipedia don't have something for final approval, please, write it here immediatly, so we can fix and solve all the problems before July 10.
Please, post your answer here --Сай 05:56, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Help![edit]

Requests for new languages/Wikinews Korean

How to open?

How to translate?

Open it quickly, please~ :) -- WonRyong 23:42, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Ka-wikisource[edit]

--George Mel 13:55, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Acehnese Wikipedia[edit]

Hi Gerard, may we know how is the status for Acehnese Wikipedia now? Thanks. Si Gam Acèh 17:02, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello Gerard, we want to make Acehnese Wikipedia could be edited only by registered user. Can you help us please? Thanks. Si Gam Acèh 04:05, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

How about making Acehnese Wikipedia could be edited only by registered user? Si Gam Acèh 03:18, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Do you know why our logo request is not fulfilled until now? Please see: this and this. Thanks. Si Gam Acèh 04:51, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

I have added bug 21213 to bugzilla... Thanks, GerardM 06:19, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Signpost interview request[edit]

Gerard, I invite you to answer a set of questions for the Wikipedia Signpost about your board candidacy: w:Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2009 Board elections/Gerard Meijssen. If you choose to do so, please let me know. I also encourage you to respond by 26 July; interviews with all candidates who respond will be publicized in the 27 July issue of the Signpost.

Faithfully, Ragesoss 21:13, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

So sorry. I fixed the linked.--Ragesoss 21:56, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

length of my candidate statement[edit]

Hoi, it has been pointed out to me that my statement was too big. It turned out to be some 1398 characters. I did not know because MediaWiki does not tell you that. As I was told that the officials might remove my statement, I did some surgery on the text.

The only regret I have is that people need to know that GLAM or galleries libraries archives and museums.. They are many characters.. GerardM 13:23, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Your candidacy statement[edit]

Hi Gerard, I believe to have fixed a typo in your candidacy statement. --Purodha Blissenbach 11:18, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, GerardM 11:43, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I thought this included your duties[edit]

It says your duties affect how fundraising is done. With far less content in the English language wikipedia, which is the largest of them, there are far less people coming here, to look for things enjoyable to read. The mass destruction of a considerable number of articles, after a very small number of people managed to change the notability rules, I think would concern any board set up for the foundation. Someone asked a question about regulating sexual content, so I don't see how that is any different than regulating what else people can keep or destroy. Do you agree that the more people who come to wikipedia, the more donations there would be, and the better off it is? That the massive amounts of destruction, by elitists deletionists who consider everything fancruft and unnecessary, hurts the wikipedia? I mean, when you find an article on a bestselling novel you looked up information on deleted, wouldn't that give you a negative opinion of wikipedia? Dream Focus 17:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

The more mature projects are not waiting for directions from the board and, by and large, this should not be necessary. With a project of sufficient size, these things will be taken care off one way or another.
In my opinion there are other things that are more important particularly making sure that the support each and every language gets is sufficient to have viable projects. This is imho vastly more important. The fact that right to left support for languages like Arabic are no properly implemented or that the font used for Lingala is not working well. I think the board is also better positioned to stimulate cooperation with like minded organisations.
It is also important to grow our smaller projects so that they can have the same problems the English Wikipedia has.. The same problems and the same success. Thanks, GerardM 12:25, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Update[edit]

Hello Gerard, will you be so kind to update this page?Regards,--George Mel 10:57, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Www.wikipedia.org template[edit]

Hey Gerard, changes to the project portals should be done on the /temp (ie. Www.wikipedia.org template/temp) pages first and then sync'ed. This makes sure the two pages are up-to-date and changes can be tested first on the temp page (especially when non-admins need to change something). Cbrown1023 talk 21:02, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

That is nice and non obvious. What is obvious is that there are problems with the implememtation of language codes.. this has been mentioned in a bug in bugzilla. GerardM 05:53, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Questionable edit at Public_speakers[edit]

Regarding the content of the Public_speakers page, absent a process to evaluate actual speaking engagements or the like, which I invite you to help work on at the talk page, anyone who wants to put themselves forward as a speaker should be allowed to do so without interference, within reason. This edit could be construed as a personal attack. Please don't do that, and don't edit war with others, no matter how much you may think they are not here in the best interests of the project. ++Lar: t/c 22:48, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Also, are you really prepared to say that the contributions of everyone else on that list are universally welcomed within the WMF community? That's an awfully big word. —Random832 23:10, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Please unblock the IP you were in a dispute with. It's obviously not Kohs, it's based in Great Britain. This kind of behaviour – for an admin – is very poor. Majorly talk 00:51, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
  • The comment that Lar points out is extremely disrespectful to Wikimedia as a whole. This is our public face and should not be used to attack other users. If you have a problem with another user, please keep it out of site instead of putting it right in an area intended for the public to see. The edit was highly unprofessional and I ask that you never make such attacks again. Ottava Rima 02:35, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
    • I have started a discussion on the talk page of this page, to examine your use of administrator tools (ie. editing a protected page) to continue your revert-warring which you started prior to the page protection. Daniel (talk) 05:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
      • warning - If you edit war through protection again, as you did here you may find yourself blocked. Make the case at the talk page but do not edit war. As an admin at multiple projects you should know better. ++Lar: t/c 12:00, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Edited a template[edit]

Are you aware that with this edit you edited a template to add a comment? That was rather careless. An editor who is an admin on multiple projects would be expected to realise that. Or if they made a mistake, not have to rely on the good offices of someone else to clean it up. I'm suspecting that your passion in this matter is perhaps making your act rashly and without sufficient care, causing you to make simple mistakes, as well as say things that are not supportable. I note you have yet to answer why you felt it appropriate to edit through page protection. ++Lar: t/c 19:37, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

You may be surprised that I am proud to make mistakes. If anything it proves that I actually do something. When I read what you write you give the impression that this whole thing takes a lot of my attention. It does not. It is a little affair that is only relevant because it is another instance where Mr Kohs abuses the wiki. Personally I find that it has taken too much of my time already. Thanks, GerardM 21:26, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Then you should step away entirely, because in my view it's not been a good use of your time at all and your contributions are far from constructive so far. I note you have yet to answer why you felt it appropriate to edit through page protection. ++Lar: t/c 11:54, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
The question is what is constructive. Reverting the nonsense of Mr Kohs was worthwhile. The removal is the best solution as far as I am concerned. This is in my objective a constructive aim as too much time has been wasted as a result of this gentlemen already. Thanks, GerardM 12:20, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Localization of the Zazaki language[edit]

Hi Gerard,I am writing for the Zazaki Wiktionary project. As you told me, one of the requirements of opening a new wiki project is to translate “most-used MediaWiki messages”, “all MediaWiki messages”, and “all extensions used by Wikimedia Foundation wikis”. We have so far only translated all of the “most-used MediaWiki messages” and half of the “all MediaWiki messages” for the Zazaki language. There are thousands of messages that are not translated, and we are having a hard time to translate all. That is because special status of the Zazaki language.

Zazaki language is spoken in Turkey. Between 1923 -2003 Zazaki was banned by the government, along with the Kurdish language. Only until 2003 some of the restriction in the Turkish law removed in favor of the Zazaki and Kurdish languages. However Zazaki is still cannot be thought in schools, and it is not a formal language. That is why the Zazaki language is mostly a non-literal language. Zazaki literacy has only peaked up around late 90’s.

Because the language was forced to stay as backward as possible in the past, translating all those Wikimedia messages is very hard. Zazaki is not like Turkish, Persian, or any other state language. There is almost no computer software translated to Zazaki. Zazaki lacks words that define many of the modern-day terms. Messages translated to Zazaki also do not make that much sense to a Zazaki speaker. Most of Zaza people know Turkish and English, and they use computer programs in English or Turkish. Is it possible for us to use either Turkish or English translation for the Zazaki Wiktionary? Then we can slowly translate other messages slowly. I believe that would make much more sense for us for the Zazaki Wiktionary project. --Xoser 04:13, 27 September 2009 (UTC)


Localization of North Frisian[edit]

DONE! --Pyt 06:51, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Determination of North Frisian:Mooringer North Frisian has frontal sch and frequently contains the character å. Other dialects have frontal sk but contain no å, â, ô, û. --Pyt 21:26, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Mail[edit]

Please don't send me mail to attack other users. Guido den Broeder 10:01, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Please read that mail again. It is not about other users, it is about your misrepresenting what is said about a given subject. Thanks, GerardM 10:37, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
I stand corrected. You attacked TWO people, both me and the other user. Don't do it again. Guido den Broeder 11:45, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
You do not stand corrected, because you are still not getting why you are wrong at what you did. GerardM 17:24, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Fiji Hindi Wiktionary Test Site[edit]

Hi

When I try to carry out any edit edit in the Hindi Wiktionary Test Site, I get the message: This wiki is closed

This is an active Wiki and I have not seen any prior proposal to close this wiki.

Can you please let me know as to what is happening?

Girmitya 12:15, 15 October 2009 (UTC) ..

this looks good to me. I am not involved in the Incubator but there is no reason to deny this project.. You do know that you will have to do the full localisation ... Thanks, GerardM 21:19, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Unlock of Kirmanjki Wiktionary project[edit]

Dear Gerard!

For reasons of time, I have neglected the Kirmanjki Wiktionary project and so it is now closed. I would like to continue the activity in this project again. Can you possibly help me here please? See also my talk on language committee. Best regards! --Mirzali 22:16, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Closure of Incubator?[edit]

This together with the blocking of Incubator pages and its new top line A proposal has been made to close this project. Please vote to close this wiki. is very alarming. --Pyt 20:44, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Incubator will not be closed. Thanks, GerardM 06:46, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Zazaki Wiktionary Project[edit]

Gerard, it seems like we have met all the requirements for the Zazaki Wiktionary project [4]. What is the next step and the time line? We would like to move to our new place as soon as possible. We would like to know if more needs to be done. Sooner we get our place, the better we can work. One of my partner is also wondering when this process will end. He doesn't know English. I am writing for him too. He says he has a lot of time these days and could contribute more in the new place. We also have many entries and it is becoming hard to work with prefixes (wt/diq). I look forward to hearing from you soon. Cheers. --Xoser 23:08, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Dear Gerard,
I thank my colleagues Xosere and Aspar for their great effort, although I am not satisfied with their translations of MediaWiki messages of Zazaki in 100%, because they made many grammatical mistakes, these need to be corrected. But we will correct them gradually too.
I'm also not necessarily happy on the requested Wiktionary, because on here the two (Xosere and Aspar) act against the will of others (all other Zazas) and try to enforce the Kurdish alphabet and they are writing everything with the Kurdish alphabet. That is absolutely not acceptable and needs necessarily to be changed. Please see my arguments against!--Mirzali 20:52, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Veurblad nds-nl[edit]

Dag Gerard! Ik heb even een vraagje, op de huidige versie van Wikipedie staat op 'veurblad' van nds-nl geen kop met "Veurblad" (dat heb ik zo ingesteld) maar als ik naar Beta ga, dan staat ie daar wel (zogenaamde: heading 1). Het tabblad "artikel" op de voorpagina staat in de huidige versie van Wikipedia wel goed ingesteld als 'veurblad / vuurblad' maar op de betaversie niet. Ik heb van alles geprobeerd maar het wil niet lukken, enig idee hoe ik dit weer goed kan krijgen? 92.254.96.174 16:05, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Ik snap je vraag niet.. GerardM 16:22, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, zo duidelijker? :P 92.254.96.174 18:06, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Ik vermoed dat het in de CSS geregeld moet worden van de Vector skin. Dat is waar je grafische elementen kunt onderdrukken. GerardM 18:55, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Ik heb Vector.css aangemaakt (gekopieerd van nl.wiki) maar dat maakt ook geen verschil verder. Heeft dat misschien ook iets met dat streepje te maken in "nds-nl" want ik zie dat fr.wiki en nl.wiki er verder geen last van hebben. Servien 10:18, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Proposal: The general rules of language use in Wikimedia[edit]

Dear GerardM!

[I know that my English is not perfect. And I sorry for possible grammatical and stylistic errors.]


I am a professional anthropologist and at the same time, a man with considerable experience as a politician and as a party to legal conflicts. I am very interesting by those most bitter conflicts in the Wikipedia community around the creation of Wikipedia in those or other languages. This, in particular, the sharp conflicts over language: Volapük, Lombardian, Siberian, Klingon, Quenya, Toki Pona, Moldovan.

[I note that the closing pages of the Moldovan and Siberian languages was partly inspired by political motives, respectively, the representatives of Romanian and Russian languages. There is no doubt in the existence of a group of Siberian dialects of the Russian language, and there is no doubt in the existence of a formal written language, which was called "Moldovan" and was considered different from Romanian.]

I believe that decisions on these matters do not meet many of the panellists. This means that the problem of the continued functioning of languages of the Wikipedia needs more regulation. Should be introduced simple and obvious rules, which could satisfy all. Moreover, these rules should be considered obvious and fair to all members of the Wikipedia community.

These rules I have set out in the form of a few simple and universal legal norms. These rules have a few sources.

Main source: These rules follow from the main purpose of Wikipedia. The purpose of Wikipedia - creating the most complete and high quality on-line version of the encyclopedia in all languages of the Earth.

Second source: own practice of the Wikipedia community (especially the Language committee) in dealing with such issues, the presence in the practice of historical precedents.

The third source: the general universal principles of law that have proved themselves throughout the history of mankind, and which recognized the basic legal systems of almost all States, except in the most odious dictatorships. In this case there are two such universal principles:

1) A person shall not be liable for the acts of illegality which he could not have known. In particular, it should not be punished for acts which at the time they were committed were not illegal.

2) If people are free to enjoy certain rights, these rights they can not be taken away or limited. This is a very important universal principle, which dictates the obvious solution of a number of the most violent conflicts in the Wikipedia community.

Based on this latter principle, those languages that already have existing Wikipedia pages, or who have already obtained the right to create such pages in the wiki-Incubator, in any case can not be denied the right to own Wikipedia.

Because of this legal principle should be necessary to reopen the languages of the Wikipedia: Klingon, Toki Pona, Moldovan and Siberian.

On the other hand, these Wikipedias have been closed due to fair and honest reasons. So we must not allow the emergence of similar pages in the future. For this purpose, and should be taken these guidelines.


The general rules of language use in Wikimedia


A. Rules of use of existing languages in Wikimedia


1) Any language of Wikimedia may not be removed from it.


2) Administrators of each active Wikipedia in any language are obliged to care about the quality of Wikipedia articles. In particular, there is considered unacceptable the bot-creation of the main part of Wikipedia articles in any language.

In case of serious doubt as Wikipedia in this language guide Wikimedia Foundation may require the removal of all articles that have been bot-uploaded.


3) If necessary, bad-quality Wikimedia to correct the deficiencies can be returned to the Wiki-incubator.


4) In case if the language is used in two or more writing systems, separate sections for each type of writing is not created. Instead, is necessary to create a program that can translate the contents of any article on this language from one writing system into another.

We are welcoming the creation for any language of Wikipedia, program that gives the contents of articles into the International Phonetic Alphabet, as well as program that translates into the Latin transcription of the contents of articles in those languages, which made other writing systems.


B. Rules for the establishment of Wikipedia and Wiki-Incubator for new languages


1) In the Wikipedia and Wiki-incubator can be created sections in any native (living or dead) language, having the code ISO 639-3.


2) In the Wikipedia can be created partitions on any living language, not having the code ISO 639-3, if it satisfies the following conditions:

a) there are people for whom this language is native;

b) these language has a literature and electronic sites;

c) there is a scientific description of the language: its vocabulary and grammar;

d) The Wikipedia has pages devoted to this language in English and at least three other languages.


3) In the Wikipedia can be created sections on any recently extinct language, not having the code ISO 639-3, if it satisfies the following conditions:

a) The language died out not earlier than 1850;

b) there is a tutorial of the language;

c) these language has a literature and electronic sites;

d) there is the scientific description of the language: its vocabulary and grammar;

e) The Wikipedia has pages devoted to this language in English and at least three other languages.


4) In the Wikipedia can be created partitions on any dead language, not having the code ISO 639-3, if it satisfies the following conditions:

a) in that language existed and survived to the present day own rich literature;

b) there is a tutorial of the language;

c) these language has a modern literature and electronic sites;

d) there is the scientific description of the language: its vocabulary and grammar;

e) The Wikipedia has pages devoted to this language in English and at least three other languages.


5) All the languages that do not meet the criteria set out in paragraphs 1), 2), 3) and 4), are considered to be artificial.

In Wikipedia, there are sections of the following artificial (constructed) languages: Esperanto, Simple English, Ido, Novial, Intelingua, Interlingue (Occidental), Volapük, Lojban, Quenya, Klingon, Siberian, Toki Pona, and Lingua Franca Nova.

In the Wikipedia is not possible to create partitions on any other artificial languages.

As an exception, the decision to establish a section of Wikipedia in any other artificial language can be accepted by Wikimedia Board of Trustees. In this case the language must meet all the requirements of paragraph 4) for the dead languages and have code ISO 639-3 and a level of development and popularity of not less than the Quenya in 2009.


6) If a native language has the code ISO 639-3, but does not satisfy the conditions about 2) or 3) or 4), proposal of this language can be rejected.


I believe that the adoption of these rules will remove all the stress and all the discussions around the language policy of Wikipedia.

Best Regards,

Ihor Rassokha, Ukraine

validation criteria of a project in incubation[edit]

At what rate translation project in incubation (incubator, wikisource or betawikiversity) can claim to be observed and followed with interest by the commitees. It would also be interesting to know the rate of monthly contributions is the second criteria. Does this rate may be added in terms of indication of maturity of a project ? Crochet.david 17:11, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Personally I start looking at the content of projects once they have achieved the threshold for localisation. Often people signal when their localisation is done. Typically I am likely to notice when I do my monthly localisation updates on Wikipedias.
The prodding is welcomed. GerardM 17:19, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
more than 80 % of "Extensions used by Wikimedia message" translated since 5 months and 5 monthly actives contributors since 5 months are a good starting to allow comittee to be noted with interest an incubating project ? Crochet.david 17:15, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
The activity is recongised by the tool of Pathoschild. The point is that there is enough to start with, the localisation should be done and there is a start of a community.. Thanks, ~~

Recent coments[edit]

Hi Gerard,

I have seen it before and noticed it today again but I would like to ask you to not place comments like no anonymous cowards since Wikimedia and Wikipedia are based on the believe that everybody can edit it.

You protect a page with this comment so you believe that every ip that edits is a coward? I would like to say that there are people working as ip that do more and better work than you or me.

Could you please use more agf comments in the future?

Best regards, Huib talk 10:52, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

I am involved in the language politics. I have found that most of the destructive comments are from anonymous cowards. Most of their remarks are damaging. Given that the languages policy asks people for their support, we require users to commit themselves. Your point is correct in many instances. It is not for things that have to deal with new languages and with the deletion of languages.
I do not consider anonymous requests to me personally as relevant. Also I disagree that there are ips that do a better job. Thanks, GerardM 10:58, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Public speakers[edit]

Gerard, please stop editwarring on Public speakers. Of the users that showed up on talk, you are the only one who wants the page look like that. Guido den Broeder 14:11, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

This is a formal warning, GerardM. You should know better. Stop edit warring over this. Majorly talk 14:38, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
That is actually not the case. There are more people who have objected. This is only conveniently forgotten.. GerardM 16:41, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
For what it's worth: as Mr. Den Broeder very well knows Gerard is right here: he was certainly not the only one who objected. Wutsje 16:49, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

add information about the localization[edit]

Hi, Gerard. Could you add information about the localization to the request? --Iltever 20:52, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia Kirmanjki[edit]

Dear Gerard! We wish now that our project will be opened as soon as possible. Well, 100% of the most used MediaWiki messages have been translated. This is the recent localisation activity for our language. Thanks! P.S. My login does not work here. Someone must have me blocked. Can you please also change this? --Mirzali

Komi-Permyak Wikipedia[edit]

  • 500 of most messages were translated except 7 of them (with "Do not translate" direction) Yufereff 01:41, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

help with my language request[edit]

i made a request page according to the instructions , here it is: [5]

i cant manage to add it to the request page cause i don't know where to put the code --Ilan David Frumer 17:45, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Capiznon Wikipedia[edit]

Hello Gerard! I have invited my friends and co-bloggers to help in the creation of Wikipedia Capisano. We are already two of us listed in the community interested for the creation. Oxyzen 04:43, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

File upload without licence[edit]

Hi. Could you add the license to the files that you have uploaded to meta. Thanks.Crochet.david 07:56, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

How to appeal for wiki in 'unified Northern Berber'[edit]

Please can you tell me how to communicate with the language committee, to appeal the recent rejection of a unified Norther Berber wikipedia? Here are the references: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Tamazight http://www.mail-archive.com/wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/msg00393.html

At the moment, there is a different Berber language variant spoken in each zone where the language survives, because the variants have been isolated from each other for centuries. The variants retain a clear common structure, pronunciation and vocabulary.

The Berber group (code ber) falls into two main groups, the Northern Berber group, and the Tuareg (Southern) group. Tuareg has an extended vowel system but is still similar.

Each variant within the two groups has achieved its own language code, such as the Moroccan variants Tachelhit, Central Moroccan Tamazight, and Tarifit.

There is confusion because the word Tamazight can be read to mean 'the Central Moroccan Tamazight variant of Berber', or to mean 'Tamazight the language group ber', or 'Tamazight the group of Northern variants'; or even 'a common Tamazight Northern Berber variant' which is the topic here.

The language variants are still geographically separated, but the Internet will now make a common Northern Tamazight language possible, and there is a great collective will to do this. (There is already a code for Tuareg as a unified language and not a language group, but that's understandable because Tuareg variants are more mutually intelligible and more effort has been made to create cross-border works).

The objective of a common Northern Berber literary language is compatible with the stated aims of the Language Committee. But it is the Internet and Wikipedia itself that can make convergence come about.

This is therefore an unusual case of a language that needs a code to describe itself before it can take root. Some authors have already written books that use compromise grammatical forms, and widely-understood vocabulary, and their work would be classed under this new code already.

1) I suggest therefore revisiting the proposal but giving it an x- private language code until the common language's iso-639-3 code has been requested and assigned. There is no risk that the new wiki will become redundant, given that the proposal looks to the future and not the past, and that it does not describe the language of a special interest group. On the contrary, there will be new energy, and the organizational features of Wikipedia are ideally suited to the task of crystallizing the language's use naturally.

2) The existing wikis for the Berber variants are in the Latin script, the civil society concensus. But the official script in Morocco for the Moroccan variants is Tifinagh. In Algeria there is no official script defined, but Latin is the civil society concensus.

I suggest therefore that the script component of the language code is very important for disambiguating the wikis, but it has not been considered as part of proposals and wiki codes so far.

People need to be able to create a Rifian wiki in Latin script and in Tifinagh. Time will tell which prevails, but conversion of texts is easy for editors. I presume that the implicit script understood from the language code alone is the one defined by the country's government, and not the civil society concensus. So the existing Rifian wiki would be rif-Latin, and rif alone would refer to the Tifinagh one. The same for Central Moroccan Tamazight and Tachelhit.

In Algeria, kab would presumably imply Latin since it's the de facto standard, the state has not defined a script, and very little has been written in anything else.

How can I put these two points to the language committee? Anderssakoul 16:03, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

I will point the language committee to this section. Thanks, GerardM 16:35, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick response. I'll join the discussion wherever it might pop up, or I can be emailed. Anderssakoul 18:35, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

arz translation[edit]

  • Dear Gerrad ; sorry to bother you about this, as you might be aware there has been some problems due to User:Meno25 efforts in translating the arz messages , my self , Ramsis and Dudi were trying to rectify them as much as possible, Meno importsthe messages in Arabic not in Masry and as arz wikipedia is different this is causing some problems. One of them that the message about needed templates because some of the templates needed is due to the word معطيات replacing Country data , I tried to find this message to revert it to default but I can not find the message with معطيات replacing country data on translatewiki, would you mind helping me in this. Many thanks. Ghaly
Please ask such questions at support at http://translatewiki.net .. Thanks, GerardM 11:52, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Laz wikipedia[edit]

can you check it? [[6]]

Tuareg-Tamazaq/Tamazeq[edit]

For a converged Tuareg-Tamazaq/Tamazeq language, assuming a language request is made and granted, I have a technical question about Wikipedia pages:

There could be a default script for the wiki shown first, with tabs at the top for alternatives, as for Serbian.

The content itself would be available in two encodings - in Latin script, transformed to Tifinagh one-way (or two way if capital letters are dealt with). But additionally the Tifinagh content needs to be shown with different fonts according to the region of the user - this is important.

Is it technically possible, if a user selects Tifinagh script, to make wiki pages specify different fonts (falling back to a sensible default) depending on which regional profile a user chooses? (The assumption is that each region will have well-known Tifinagh fonts appropriate to the letter repertoire used there).

Do you happen to know anyone who has experience of doing something similar for fonts? Anderssakoul 16:43, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Hoi, technically it is possible. As it is, your question is quite abstract. Is there a transliteration possible between what fonts ? The assumption is that the writing is indeed the same ? Thanks, GerardM 23:22, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Yes, the writing's exactly the same Unicode sequence - only the font for the pages changes per region (this changes the glyphs displayed for some of the code points, and captures the regional variations at some points in the script). Anderssakoul 01:19, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Advantages of common Berber wiki[edit]

The wikipedians involved with the Central Moroccan Berber (Tamazight) wiki are interested in a common Berber language, and are keen to support the Tifinagh script for its historical and cultural resonance. They will probably use this wiki as a vehicle for common Berber anyway, rather than writing the wiki in the Middle Atlas Berber variant described by the language code. That exploits the confusion of 'Tamazight' the language group and 'Tamazight' the specific Moroccan variant. To avoid this, it would be better to create a separate wiki with a provisional code for the common Berber language. Doing this has three benefits:

  • It avoids the Central Moroccan Tamazight wiki serving two purposes and being pulled in different directions
  • It will support future proposal of the common Berber language code to ISO by giving unambiguous evidence of a common Berber language being used
  • It highlights that the Central Moroccan wiki uses Tifinagh and the other wikis do not. That is not justified specifically for this particular dialect - the same factors affect the choice of script for the others, especially the Moroccan varieties where the state specifies Tifinagh but civil society mainly uses Latin. To avoid further confusion, the script tag part of the language identifier needs to be used in the wiki code, or some other solution such as different namespaces used so that the scripts can coexist for each language variant.

I've noticed that there have already been discussions about automatic interconversion of Latin and Tifinagh pages. What design was favoured, and did any implementation efforts get off the ground? Are the contributors still active? Anderssakoul 01:27, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Latgalian Wikipedia[edit]

Please fill this status page, thx --Dark Eagle 15:52, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The most used messages have been fully translated, what now we need for approving our project? --Dark Eagle 13:39, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

up... how long we have to wait for Latgalian Wikipedia approval? --Dark Eagle 10:43, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Activity was raised up. Can we now get your support on creation? --Dark Eagle 14:05, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Request for a Wikipedia in Llanito[edit]

There is a request pending to have an ISO 639-3 code assigned for the Llanito language, see:

I am really hesitant to add this fact to the (final) page Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Llanito , but I would like to point supporters of a Wikipedia of Llanito to the fact. I expect them to have the request page on their watchtlists. Is there a better way for an alert? --Purodha Blissenbach 10:11, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Persian wikinews[edit]

Is the request to create a Persian wikinews ignored? Can you help please? 173.174.50.62 22:45, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

No they are not.. I have updated the statistics for the required localisations. Thanks, GerardM 05:27, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! I appreciate your efforts :) 173.174.50.62 08:36, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

About that theme[edit]

I'm very sorry, but what about Latgalian Wikipedia --Dark Eagle 13:10, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Please write me 10 new articles that are of a rather large size (not stub sized). They will be used to ask an expert to confirm that it is proper Latgalian. The number of existing articles is low.. Once I have these 10 new articles, I am willing to propose to go to the next phase. Thanks, GerardM 10:41, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

ff.wp[edit]

I'd like to invite you to express your opinion here: Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Fulan_Wikipedia

br.wikisource[edit]

Hi,

Before posting a request, I’d like ask you you two questions :

  • it seems ok but can you confirm that br.wikisource is eligible ?
  • we just re-launch the test on oldwikisource this weeks (oldwikisource:Degemer:Brezhoneg); how long should we wait before posting the request and then to have our project ? (in order to better organize ourself : te link to oldwikisource are not verry clean and we apparently have no possibility to fully test the Mediawiki breton interface). Is it a question of weeks/months/years ?

Cdlt, VIGNERON * discut. 14:12, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Wikisource in Breton will be eligible, no worries there. The localisation for Breton is also almost complete. When the localisations is done, give us a signal so that we can mark the occasion. At the same time work on your source material and signal when you feel comfortable for a release.
As to testing the Breton interface, change your language to Breton and all the software that is localised will show up in Breton. Thanks, GerardM 14:19, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank for the confirmation.
For some stange reason, extension messages (eg. proofread messages) dont show up in Breton even when the messages exist on translate wiki, do you know why?ThomasV answer us : proofread message can’t be localised.
A galon, VIGNERON * discut. 14:50, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Wp/frr North Frisian[edit]

Hi GerardM,
Wp/frr has made a lot of progress in the last year. Can you please give any advice, which next steps should be carried out to make the project ready for approval? Thanks! --Murma174 16:14, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Wikinews Korean[edit]

Hello, Localisation of the MediaWiki messages and the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects has been Yes check.svg Done. Could you please update the unofficial analysis page? Thanks. --Gapo 14:28, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

"Western" Punjabi Wikipedia[edit]

To Whom it May Concern,

I recently noticed a Wiktionary incubator under the name "Western" Punjabi on Meta; as well as a Wikipedia under the same name that had been approved. I would like to take this opportunity to inform you that, while the language above exists, these projects are not written in this language, rather they are written in the Lahori sub-dialect of Eastern Punjabi; with the only real difference of being written in the Arabic script. Indeed, I transliterated the article on Lahore from the "Western" Punjabi Wikipedia to the Eastern Punjabi one, and it worked fine. Since I can read both scripts, I can tell you that this is not the language it claims to be. It is a shame, because those who actually speak that language will not be able to run a Wikipedia now. Please don't approve the Wiktionary at least, without confirming the language it is written in.

Many Thanks.

--92.21.135.101 16:16, 1 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.21.135.101 (talk)

Breton Wikisource[edit]

Hello Gerard,

I am one of the Breton Wikisource contributors. The project was given a new start recently. I think, along with the other contributors, that having a proper subdomain is an important goal. In my opinion, this would

  • make interwiki linking cleaner,
  • make it easier to watch recent changes,
  • facilitate administration, if we can obtain a local sysop (I suppose so).

Currently, all the MediaWiki core messages have a Breton translation. If I understand correctly, all the extensions used by Wikimedia should be translated as well (currently 783 translations are missing, I intend to help there). Is there anything else to translate ?

As for numbers, we have 4 active contributors (the other 2 are inactive) and well over 100 pages, many of them using the Proofread extension.

In your opinion, what else do we need to request a subdomain ? Kouign-amann 15:41, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

A request can be made at any time. It will be deemed eligible. Having us consider if you are ready will only be done once the localisation is done. Ping me when it is, Thanks, GerardM 17:00, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
All right, we will do that. Thanks. Kouign-amann 11:20, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Social sites[edit]

Hi. Re: Emperor has no clothes, there's a very interesting article about social websites at http://ifindkarma.posterous.com/pandas-and-lobsters-why-google-cannot-build-s that you might enjoy. (blogspot.com is being complicated, and not letting me comment. grumble grumble) Quiddity 19:39, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Beta in CKB[edit]

Hi. Our project(ckb.wikipedia) is not moved to beta, and logo is not changed to what we would like. Is that because of remaining several untranslated messages? if not, what is the problem? I asked this question on translatewiki, but siebrand wanted me to ask it at Wikimedia Language Committee. So if its not the right place to ask it, please guide me. Thanks --Marmzok 21:43, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello,
About the logo part, you could upload the logo that you want on your logo as w:ckb:file:wiki.png. When you did that and you give a note to me I will poke a dev op irc to change the logo for you. Huib talk Abigor 23:25, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Alekano Wikipedia[edit]

Hi Gerard - we spoke in Gdańsk about a lightweight process for establishing a wikipedia for a small language in Papua New Guinea (Alekano, spoken in Goroka), involving a commitment by the University of Goroka to create content in a specified time-frame. Can we have a skype call sometime to discuss this further? Stevenbird

Hmong Wikipedia proposal[edit]

Hey GerardM!

I started a thread about the Hmong Wikipedia proposal at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hmongstudies/message/424

But a person replied saying that Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Hmong is locked.

Would it be alright if it is unlocked? If not, where should the discussion continue? Thanks WhisperToMe 06:26, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

The discussion is locked for anonymous contributors.. so it is a matter of having a profile. There is no point in having people say "I am in favour and we should do something" when we do not know to who to say "so do something". Thanks, GerardM 07:50, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
In that case, I'll just instruct people to sign up and register. WhisperToMe 12:02, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Regarding Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Hmong - Would it be alright if you gave your opinion on whether, specifically the White Hmong language should get a Wikipedia? The "Wikipedia Hmong" proposal seems to be in favor of granting White Hmong a Wikipedia and using the language code specifically for White Hmong (mww). WhisperToMe 23:49, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
As long as the language fits the description, it is fine. This is checked when there is a sufficiently large corpus of articles.

Thanks, GerardM 14:50, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Good - So where should initial articles be submitted to? When does the mww domain get activated? I'll notify the Hmong community that there will be a certain method of submitting the initial articles. WhisperToMe 16:30, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
This is done at the Incubator and the required localisation is done at translatewiki.net. Thanks, GerardM 19:52, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: Google Translate for Wikipedia please[edit]

We have it at en.wiki. Go to Preferences->Gadgets->Browsing Gadgets - and the first item is GoogleTrans. I just tried it, and it's very good. The author gives instructions at w:User:Endo999/GoogleTrans for porting it to other wikis, and setting defaults.

(I still can't see the captcha images at blogger, hence posting this here. Feel free to copy my comment to your blogpost). :) Quiddity 04:13, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

br.wikisource again[edit]

Hi,

I tried to launch Requests for new languages/Wikisource Breton. Did I do all right ?

On Language committee/Status/ws/br, the link for the automated statistics is not http://toolserver.org/~pathoschild/catanalysis/?cat=1&title=Breton&wiki=sourceswiki_p but http://toolserver.org/~pathoschild/catanalysis/?title=Pajenno%C3%B9+brezhonek&cat=1&wiki=sourceswiki_p . How can I correct that ?Done. Cdlt, VIGNERON * discut. 16:40, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

vec.wikisource[edit]

Hi Gerard, I'd just like to bring to your attention my message on the langcom talk. You know, I don't see many answers on that page, probably the members of the langcom are busy elsewhere, and I just wanted to make sure that my message was noticed by someone! ;-) And since your name was the one that sounded more familiar, the choice fell upon you! ;-) Thank you for your time, Candalua 16:56, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

tachelhit wikipedia project[edit]

Hi Gerard can you please update this


thank you :) Zanatos11 13:03, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi and Happy New Year![edit]

Hello Gerard, I'm Claudi Balaguer (User Capsot), we met and spoke a little while during the Gdansk convention. First of all Happy New Year, I wish you and your family all the best for 2011 and that the minorized and endangered languages will be able to survive and grow as long as possible. I wanted to tell you that the Catalan Viquipèdia will be celebrating its 10th birthday soon (http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viquip%C3%A8dia:10_anys_de_la_Viquip%C3%A8dia) and that we are working on it and plan to have some sessions directed towards getting some wikipedias out of the incubator and we will need at least your advice, at best your participation (so you're invited to come to Barcelona and I hope you'll be there!): http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Teamwork_of_projects_in_languages_with_singular_status. I'll let you know more of the project if you're interested since right now it's still at the beginning... Otherwise have tried nearly every possible way to make our voice be heard in the creation of a Catalan Chapter but until now, unfortunately, we received very little attention from the administrative bodies of the Wikimedia world except from Jimmy Wales himself, which I am really grateful for, if you think our cause is just you can still sign our Members and Supporters' list: http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_CAT/Members_and_Supporters&action=edit. Again, my best wishes for 2011. Take real care and keep on doing this excellent work! Claudi/Capsot 10:02, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

HT-Haitian Creole Wikipedia - Move System Message to translatewiki.net[edit]

Hi GerardM,

For the moment, there are no administrator on the haitian creole wikipedia as i retired last year due to some difficulties (besides, i had 3 or 4 temporary admin access, as the unique candidate to this post since 2007...)

One of our users is driving translations on translatewiki.net and would like to be able to propose translations for System message (http://ht.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espesyal:ToutMesaj) but it seems that it is not possible to overwrite the translated messages done on this page (http://ht.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espesyal:ToutMesaj), due notably to admin privillege (as i'm not an admin, even not temporary admin anymore, i can do nothing to solve this issue for the moment).

Could you have an eye on this issue and eventually propose a solution ?

Thank you in advance for your interest. Thank you for all the huge works you've done for HT Wikipedia and for Wikipedia/wikimedia in general ;-)

Cordially, MasterChes (Masterches on HT wiki)

Masterches 16:33, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

zhwv[edit]

Requests for new languages/Wikiversity Chinese

Translation for mediawiki messages & extension messages is done. What's next?--Waihorace 13:20, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Megrelian Wiki[edit]

Hi,

I am a native speaker of Megrelian language. I have learned that there is a reqeust for Megerlian langauge wiki however some translations are required. Problem is that I don't know how can I help with the development of the Megerlian wiki.

Can you please contact me and explain it?

my e-mail is: machirkholi@gmail.com

Look forward to hearing from you.

Sakha Wikisource[edit]

Wikisource project in the language of the Sakha approved by the Committee on 13 February. When open? Sincerely, bureaucrat Wikipedia Sakha, Nikolay Pavlov. --HalanTul 00:49, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Mentor for GLAM[edit]

I saw your name on the discussion page for GLAM. I have reviewed the documents related to museum WM partnerships, but Im still not sure how, or what to say initially to a musuem I am thinking about approaching. Are there people with this kind of experience willing to chat with me?Thelmadatter 15:52, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Notice of review of adminship[edit]

Hello GerardM,

In accordance with Meta:Administrators/Removal and because you have made fewer than ten logged actions over the past six months, your adminship is under review at Meta:Administrators/Removal/April 2011. If you would like to retain your adminship, please sign there before April 09, 2011. Kind regards, -- Dferg ☎ talk 22:46, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

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Questions to Board candidates[edit]

Hi Gerard

Based on the statistics concerning the number of pages read in previous years' Q&As, I infer that few voters take them into account. Personally, I see it as a very interesting exercise despite the fact that we the candidates are also the main readers. I believe it is a unique type of debate among us that is especially interesting.

I have noticed that User Alecmconroy suggested a very interesting series of questions on strategic issues. They can be seen here: User talk:Alecmconroy#More questions for Board Candidates (or others). I have given my opinion, but I see he has not communicated directly to the candidates this set of questions. Perhaps you find them interesting.

I wish you the best possible result in these elections and, if you agree, I suggest that we continue having this type of debate regardless of who is chosen.

Cheers and good luck.--Gomà 09:27, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Help compile Objective Data about the Candidates[edit]

Posted to all candidates talk page:

To aid in the fair evaluation of all the candidates, especially those not active on EnWiki, verifiable data about the candidates is being compiled. Anyone is invited to help compile the data since it is all publicly available on-wiki.

But since the people best qualified to help are the candidates themselves, it seems reasonable to ask:

  • Which languages do you speak? (voter statement)
  • Which projects do you contribute to?
    • For each, when was your first edit?
    • For each, how many total edits? (exact figures not need)
  • Which projects are you an admin on?
  • Are you a bureaucrat? which projects? when?
  • Are you a CheckUser? Which projects? When did you start??
  • Are you a steward? If so when were you made one?
  • Have you served in a verifiable leadership role on a project? (e.g. Like EnWiki's Founder or Arbcom member)
  • Have you served in a verifiable leadership role on at the Chapter or Foundation level? (Trustee, etc)

Are there any objectively verifiable facts that should be included in this guide but aren't?

(Incidentally, this document won't reflect my own personal values or wikipolitical opinions. Ideally it will come to exist outside of my userspace in some neutral, visible location. -- Alecmconroy)

Any idea why this link fails for you? it works for most, but not all, of the candidates. --Alecmconroy 00:53, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

but Hoi, with 490 users in different WMF wikis alone, compiling the data you ask for is too much work to compile. As I am not only but also involved in projects like translatewiki.net, projects that are very relevant to our environment, as I have been involved in the creation and promotion of several bits of software, something you do not ask for, the data you compile may be the same for everyone, it does however not provide the relevant data you hope it does. Thanks, GerardM 08:54, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

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Personen en hun kennis van het Nederlands[edit]

Beste Gerard,
De tekst van categorie User nl klopt van geen kanten. De Nederlandse tekst heb ik hersteld, maar de Engelse mag ik slechts bekijken. Zie ook de discussie in Babel
P.S. Ik heb een geheel nieuw Twitter-account genaamd sognitaliani. Saluti da Klaas in Toscana, Patio 15:33, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Ik bemoei me bewust niet met deze templates. Ik verkies om me druk te maken over de Babel extension die op translatewiki.net gebruikt wordt. Groetjes, GerardM 15:48, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia Mingrelian[edit]

Hello Gerard. Please take a look over here. Is it possible to reopen this discussion for some period? As you see, there are some users who have recently objected (even one of the proposers has changed the mind). Thanks! –BruTe talk 15:46, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

It is not possible. The board of trustees has approved the Mingrelian Wikipedia. Thanks, GerardM 17:01, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

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Locate the Tunisian Arabic in wikitranslate. --Csisc 18:23, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

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Grants talk:Glam/Batak[edit]

Hi,

I just put there some comments, now you should answer. Polimerek 09:13, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

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Vandalism on Wikipedia Kirmanjki[edit]

Dear GerardM! The user Gomada riots on Wikipedia Kirmanjki. He has caused Ebe123 to block me. Although I am the test administrator and the founder of this project. Please read about this issue here, here, here and here. Please be as fair and find a righteous solution to this matter. Please don't let these Kurdish populists to destroy our projects. Because we have been working since years on it. There must be a certain respect for all the trouble. Best regards! --Mirzali 13:19, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

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Transliteration in Hindi[edit]

Hi Gerard M, your name can be transliterated in Hindi as गेरार्ड म. - In case if you would like to use on your userpage. Hindustanilanguage 08:13, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Yucatec Maya[edit]

Hi,I think that wikipedias should be approval from incubator into wikipedias because majority of people support to open the Yucatec Maya Wikipedias.--Aplikasi 03:25, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi from Kundan Amitabh, Angika Wikimedia Incubator Project[edit]

Hi गेरार्ड म.GerardM ! On behalf of Mumbai Wikipedia Community I say a warm welcome to you to Wiki Conference India-2011, at Mumbai. I am the oldest member of Mumbai Wikipedia Community wherein I have been trying to develop the community for participating in English, Hindi, Marathi and Angika Wikipedia. I am a reviewer in English Wikipedia, Active user in Hindi Wikipedia and Administrator in Angika Wikimedia Incubator project. I feel really very happy to meet you in Wiki Conference India , Mumbai 2011. Looking forward to take your kind help/services for Angika Wikipedia and in transferring it from incubator to main wikipedia category. See you today on last day of Wiki Conference, India. Regards. Angpradesh 19:22, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Wiki India Conference 2011[edit]

Dear Sir,

This is with reference to your session at Wiki Conference India 2011 on 18th November - Enabling Volunteers for Indic / Localisation. It was a great session for me since the Organisation I head, Multiversity, is into a lot of eContent Development in many Indian Languages. I would like to explore avenues to work with Wiki in the field of localization since this would give me a good hold over Localisation and at the same time We will be able to contribute to Wikimedia.

I have given a brief overview about Multiversity below:

Multiversity, founded in the year 2000, is based in Pune, India. Our organisation has core competencies in the areas of Multimedia Content Development, e-Governance, e-Learning, e-Services, Design Solutions and IT Training.

Multiversity is a Knowledge Partner of Maharashtra Knowledge Corporation Limited (www.mkcl.org) which is credited with imparting Computer Literacy education to over 6.5 million Learners in a span of 8 years. MKCL has successfully developed and deployed one of the largest Educational Frameworks across the state of Maharashtra (India), now being deployed nationally in other states of India and internationally in the King Saud University, Saudi Arabia.

Multiversity develops the complete Computer Literacy Program eContent for MKCL. One of the USP’s of the program is that we have developed an inbuilt framework with an Assessment Process that enables individual learners to test themselves and to explore further on their own.

This course comprises of: • eLearning based self-learning sessions with evaluation through MKCL’s Learning Management System • Reading and understanding a highly illustrated book • Providing hands-on practice sessions • Learning facilitation by certified professionals

After completing this course, a learner will emerge as a confident and versatile user of Information Technology.

This program is offered in India as well as Saudi Arabia. We are now in the final stages of revision of the content to the new MS Windows 7 & MS Office 2010. We also have a portfolio of 7 full-fledged courses developed by our in house Content Development Team covering the Adobe Suite – Photoshop, InDesign, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, Premiere, Flash and a Financial Accounting Course.

We develop this IT Literacy Course in English, Arabic, Hindi, Marathi, Gujarati, Kannada, Telugu, Odiya and Urdu Languages. Other Languages like Odiya, Tamil, French and Bahasa Indonesia too are in the pipeline. For language and cultural localisation, we have very eminent Indian Language Experts associated with us for this Localisation Work.

Sir, please let me know how we can take this forward.

Regards,

Nachiketas Bhatkar CEO Multiversity www.multiversity.co.in Office: +91 - 20 - 4105 1818 GTalk: nachi.bhatkar Skype: nbhatkar

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webfonts[edit]

Hi,

I saw your message at here. Where can we express our concerns on this? And I request to wait for community consensus before implementing it on ml.wikipedia. --Vssun 11:47, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

We at Tamil Wikipedia have a similar position. The Lohit Tamil defective font issue we raised hasnt been fixed. Though there have been some improvements, We in Tamil community would also not urge for deployment and need to go through more testing before they being deployed to Wikimedia projects. This testing is being done by me, Logicwiki and Santosh offline and there is no bugzilla track and we dont know what exactly is the status. Also there is a serious IE8 breakage bug which hasnt been fixed yet. Webfonts has been tested insufficiently.--Sodabottle 16:24, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

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Proposal: Language Charter of Wikipedia[edit]

Hello and Happy New Year! May be, this proposal will be interesting for you and for Language committee generally. Please, answer me, what do you think about:

Language Charter of Wikipedia

I. Project Justification

1. In essence, the language policy of Wikipedia should be limited with just two simple principles: a) Any internet community using any language which is able to create a quality wikipedia in this language, should have such an opportunity. b) Unnecessary duplication should be avoided (for example, if there were several wikipedias in English, each of them would have had its supporters. But it would be by expense of the quality of any of them).

2. The problem is to prevent the occurrence of weak projects which discredit the very idea of ​​Wikipedia. Wikipedia's most widely spoken languages ​​with developed literary tradition already established. Therefore, the need arose for a simple formal procedure to select the number of applications for new wikipedia the ones that can have a good prospect.

3. Language Committee established by the Wikimedia Foundation has done in this respect a great work. In particular, it established the existence of a language code, ISO 639-3 as a prerequisite for the adoption of new applications,. I must apologize for not immediately appreciating the significance of this condition. In addition, members of the Language Committee are trying to take into account the total number of native speakers, if a language has an official status and developed online community. The proposed draft of the language charter of Wikipedia summarizes the positive experience of the Language Committee.

4. The main problem of language policy now is that the Wiki incubator has accumulated a huge amount of "dead" projects which are generally not being developed, even without the main page. My proposal allows the clean wiki of obviously dead projects and prevent their occurrence in the future. In order to do it, it is proposed to create another filter: the site "Wiki-creation". If on Wiki incubator the projects can stay for an unlimited time, in Wiki-creation - no more than for a year. If during the year there will be established the main page and at least 30 articles, the project is transferred to the Wiki incubator. If not - the project is closed and can be restarted only in 3 years.

5. All the dead Wiki incubator projects should be closed in a year. "Living" projects (with at least 20 substantive articles) should stay in the Wiki-incubator on a permanent basis, with a guarantee of not being removed. And other projects - only conditionally for one year, during which they will need to create 30 articles and home page. Those projects that do not complete this task will be closed.


6. For the vast number of possible applications Language Charter provides a simple formal procedure: just need to make sure that the language has its own code of ISO 639-3, and over 10 thousand native speakers. Languages ​​without ISO 639-3 code, and without native speakers are immediately rejected. The projects of existing languages ​​with other written forms, historical forms of spelling, etc. must also be rejected

7. Only two cases will require expert assessment of the Language Committee. First of all, this is the case when the language has less than 10 thousand native speakers. Here the main question is whether the Internet community has sufficient resources to create high-quality Wikipedia in a given language? - It is obvious that in most cases the answer is no. However, exceptions are possible. A possible action of the Language Committee is first to offer a creation of "unofficial" wikipedia within Wikia. You can also offer to provide a list of sites in a given language (the Language Committee does it anyway ) and a complete list of books in that language, published in the past 10 years. Already good, if such books and such sites actualy exist.

8. A special case - the languages ​​with the «multilingual» status. In linguistics, there is no clear boundary between language and dialect cluster, dialect continuum, a set of closely related languages. You can create a single literary standard for several closely related languages ​​(a good example - the German language). But Wikipedia can only be created at a macro language, which already has an established literary norm. That means that a language must already be widely used in education and administration. For example, in this regard Akan language is quite valid - in Ghana, this is a literary language, in spite of some literary standards in languages ​​Twi and Fanti.

9. When decisions were made about the closure of existing wikis, in 10 cases this was due simply to their very low activity. This is a wiki for the Herero, Sichuan Yi, Marshallese, Muskogee, Kwanyama, Ndonga, Choctaw, Afar, Kanuri, Hiri Motu. These Wikipedias have been removed from the Wiki incubator, but nevertheless are treated as existing. In showing them as if they were existing there's no point. The very presence of Herero Wikipedia with 0 articles on the list discredits the idea of ​​Wikipedia.

10. Language issues are directly related to the national feelings of people and their national rights. This is a very, very explosive and delicate issue. The general principle of all democratic legal systems is that the rights that people already use, can not be taken away from them. And in general this principle has been established in the community of Wikipedia. So it is unlikely in the future that any Wiki will be closed due to the fact that someone did not like its language. The maximum that can be done with low-quality Wikipedia is temporarily return it to the wiki incubator. It seems that the community of Wikipedia has a consensus on this subject.

11. However, in the past there were four cases of closure of existing wikis because of "wrong" language. This is a wiki on the Siberian, Klingon, Toki Pona, and Moldovan. In the case of the Siberian language, you can agree that the project was based on the joke. And it's not just about artificial Siberian language. In the end, the Siberian ("chaldonian") dialects of the Russian language do exist. The fact is that the participants of "Siberian" project did not take it seriously. There is no literature and no real online community in "Siberian". But most important is the fact that, although after the closure of Siberian Wikipedia, this project has been moved to another site, it didnґt have any development and has been frozen. So the decision to close the Siberian Wikipedia proved to be right. In the remaining three cases, the situation is different.

12. The most controversial situation is related to the closure of Moldovan Wikipedia. The question was very politicized. From the perspective of Romanian patriots, any separate Moldovan language does not exist. True, the Romanian patriots also recognize the existence of the Moldovan dialect of Romanian language, which is different from the literary Romanian. Literary Moldovan language uses writing based on Cyrillic and is confusing for Romanians. There is in fact an independent state formation - Transnistria, where the official language is Moldovan, not Romanian. If we accept as a correct one the definition that a "language is a dialect with its army and navy," the Moldovan language is all right. In general, the difference between the Romanian and Moldovan is approximately equal to the difference between Serbian and Croatian, or between Hindi and Urdu.

However, there was put forward a really serious argument against the Moldovan language. The authority of independent Moldova established Romanian as an official language instead of Moldovan. In this regard, ISO 639-3 code was repealed.

But before the Moldovan language had this code. And in the libraries of Moldova there are millions of books (including encyclopedias and dictionaries) which are printed in Moldovan. And, unlike, for example, cuneiform tablets from the library of the Assyrian king Assurbanipal, the books of the Moldovan libraries are still relevant. They were widely printed before 1990, and in Transnistria they continue to print them even now. But even information from encyclopedias of early twentieth century candnot be considered completely outdated: sometimes in the Wikipedia there are texts from the early twentieth centuryґs enciclopedias. So even if we accept the view of Romanian patriots that the Moldovan language does not exist now, they will be forced to recognize that this language existed before, had its own code of ISO 639-3, and had a rich literature, which has not lost its relevance. So, the creation of a separate Moldovan Wikipedia is just as justified as the preservation of books (including reference books and encyclopedias) in the Moldavian language in libraries around the world.

13. The situation with the Moldovan is very similar to the situation with the Serbo-Croatian. If in the first case current politicians argue that two different languages ​ is in fact one, in the second case, they argue that the Serbo-Croatian language - it's actually three different languages ​​(Serbian, Croatian and Bosnian) or four (if we consider the Montenegrin ). Serbo-Croatian also had its own code of ISO 639-3, as the main language in former Yugoslavia. And the strong development of Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia shows that a lot of people still feel Yugoslavs. But most importantly is that Serbo-Croatian has also a rich literature (including background literature) which did not lost its relevance.

A third similar case - the Ottoman Turkish language Wikipedia which is successfully developing in the wiki-incubator. This language before 1923 was the official language of the Ottoman Empire and had a rich literature. In the same time it is quite different from the modern Turkish language considering the vocabulary and uses a different writing system. So it's a different language.

I propose to consider Serbo-Croatian, Moldavian and Ottoman Turkish new historical languages ​​which have the right to have their own wikipedia. Obviously, there are enough people willing to develop wikipedia in these languages.

14. Generally the most bitter conflicts in the language policy of Wikipedia are related to language, without native speakers - historical and artificial. The languages of two removed Wikipedias - the Klingon and Toki Pona - are artificial. Wikipedia on another artificial language - the lingua franca nova - "has been taken into account as existing for a few months." Wikipedia in Quenya removed from the incubator to the Wiki. Sharp conflicts were related to languages ​​like Volapьk (artificial), a Prussian, Greek, Coptic, Phoenician (historical).

15. In general the Language Board has a policy of denying the requests in any language without native speakers. In my opinion, this is absolutely correct. Moreover, it should be officially enshrined in the Charter language of Wikipedia. Still, some of Wikipedia's historical and artificial languages ​​exist. And no one is going to close them. So, before formally prohibit the creation of a new Wikipedia in artificial and historical languages, you should make sure that the list of existing historical and artificial languages ​​Wikipedia is really full and fair, according to the principle: "Say now or be silent forever."

16. First, the historical languages ​​of Wikipedia. They can be divided into four groups: classic, revived, new ones (which have already been discussed) and actually historical.

Classical languages ​​of Wikipedia are Latin, Sanskrit, Classical Chinese, Pali and Old Church Slavonic. These are languages of a huge cultural value, the classical languages ​​of the major world religions and traditional civilizations: Western, Indian, Far East, Buddhism Hinayana and Orthodox Slavs. All of these languages ​​are relevant today. Arabic as the language of Islam should be added to this list, but it is now alive language. Only Ancient Greek really needs to be added here - the language of the European classical education, the Orthodox Church and the Christian New Testament. And then the list of classical languages ​​will be complete. There is no more of them in the world. There are also several local languages of religious liturgy: Tibetan, Coptic, an ancient Ethiopian (Ge'ez), Old Armenian (Grabar), Avestan. But Tibetan is alive language. For the Ethiopian church today is more important Amhara as a language of communication, for the Armenian one - modern Armenian, for Zoroastrians - Farsi and Gujarati. And the ancient languages ​​such as ancient Egyptian, Akkadian, Sumerian, Mayan classic, Phoenician does not have cultural content and do not serve as a communication tool in any modern human society.

17. Reviving languages ​​of Wikipedia are the Manx and Cornish. This means that there are many people who are representatives of the Manx and Cornish ethnic groups. I know only about two more such examples: Coptic and Prussian languages. And here, in both cases we are talking about ethnic identity. There are a number of people who recognize themselves exactly the Prussians, not the Germans, Lithuanians or Poles. And a very large proportion of Christians of Egypt (several million) are not aware of themselves as Arabs, and Copts. This means that these people will develop their own languages ​​of Wikipedia, which serve as a symbol of their ethnic identity.

18. Thus, it is proposed to limit the number of historical languages of Wikipedia to 15 languages. Among them, six are classical (Latin, Sanskrit, Ancient Greek, Classical Chinese, Pali, Old Church Slavonic), 4 are revived (Manx, Cornish, Prussian, Coptic), 3 are new historical (Serbo-Croatian, Moldavian, Ottoman Turkish) and 2 are historical in fact (English Saxon and Gothic). The existence of the Anglo-Saxon and Gothic wikipedia justified the historical connection of these languages ​​with English and German - the most powerful language of Wikipedia.

So in order to make the list of existing historical languages of Wikipedia complete, it must be supplemented with five languages: Moldovan (which you just need to unblock), Ottoman, Coptic, Ancient Greek (these wikipedias are a wiki-incubator, and the ancient Greek and Ottoman are ready to be transported into Wikipedia right now) and Prussian. Prussian Wikipedia exists in Wikia.

19. Generally, there are 5 "unofficial" Wikipedia in Wikia: on Prussian, Klingon, Quenya, Toki Pona, and Lingua Franca Nova. Moreover, all five "unofficial" – Wikipedia are actively developed projects: the most recent Wikipedia in Quenya has 156 articles, on Klingon - 189 articles, Prussian – 291 articles, Toki Pona - 427 articles and Lingua Franca Nova - 2655 articles. (!) Pay attention to the main argument against these Wikipedias: "Because of the limited language they cannot create a full article." This argument is refuted by the volunteers of five informal wikipedias: they have proved in practice that wikipedia in these languages ​​can be created.

Therefore, I propose to add to the list of eight existing artificial languages of Wikipedia (Simple English, Esperanto, Volapuk, Ido, Intelingua, Novial, Interlingua, Lojban) four more languages. These are the languages ​​that had previously been expelled from Wikipedia: Klingon, Quenya, Toki Pona, and Lingua Franca Nova. Of course, all the common and popular artificial languages ​​were among the 12 artificial languages of Wikipedia. And the list should be closed forever.

Wikipedia on the Lingua Franca Nova can be directly transferred from Wikia to Wikipedia. A Quenya, Klingon, Toki Pona, and Prussian deserve to be returned to Wiki incubator.

20. Languages ​​Quenya and Klingon often contrasted with other artificial languages ​​on the basis that, letґs say, the Lojban or Volapuk are "serious" projects, and Klingon and Quenya are "playful ones", "weird" languages. But in reality supporters of Quenya and Klingon are not a company of jokers. In these games they play very seriously. Among all artificial languages ​​Quenya and Klingon are inferior only then Esperanto in degree of popularity. They are taught to children. They have "paper" media and a large number of sites on the Internet. Poems, songs and even a rock opera are written on them. When in Russia during 2002 census there was allowed to specify any ethnicity, several thousand people called themselves elves. And for most of them it was not a joke. This is their real identity. In fact, Quenya and Klingon are two successful projects of creating an alternative ethnic culture. They deserve to create their own wikis, and will actively promote them.

21. But if someone from the Wikipedia community are still not tolerant to Klingons or other artificial or historical languages, they are also able to express themselves. The proposed draft lof the Charter provides for the right to boycott any artificial or historical language of Wikipedia, with the exception for simplified English, Esperanto, Latin (the official language of the Vatican) and Sanskrit (one of the official languages ​​of India).

Thanks to everyone who took the time to read this!


 

We offer you a draft Charter language Wikipedia with the transitional provisions. It can cause a lot of questions and comments. The huge request: please, before making these comments, read the Project Justification.

Project

II. Language Charter of Wikipedia

1. Language Committee created by the Wikimedia Foundation determines the language policy of the Wikimedia Foundation on the basis of the principles set forth in this Charter.


2. None of the existing Wikipedias in any language can not be closed.


3. In the case of the low quality of existing wikipedia in any language Language Committee may temporarily move it to the Wiki-incubator, with a clear statement of reasons. After correction of these issues, this Wiki should be returned to the Wikipedia. While in the incubator wiki pages of this wiki can only be accessed from the Wiki-incubator, and this wikipedia is not considered and is not marked as current, with the relevant notes.


4. The application for the creation of Wikipedia in the new language is accepted in case if:

a) there is no existing project in a given language in Wikipedia, Wiki-incubator or Wiki-creation ;

b) the language has its own code of ISO 639-3 with the scope «individual»;

c) the site «Ethnologue» indicates the number of carriers of the language as a native language for at least 10 thousand people.


5. If the number of native speakers of a language as a mother tongue is less than 10 thousand people, but the language satisfies a) and b) of the paragraph 4, e.g. has a rich literature and a strong community on the Internet, then that application may be accepted as an exception.


6. Application for a language with the scope «multilingual», meeting all the other requirements of the paragraph 4, shall be made only in case if the language has an official status of a language of administration and education.


7. It can not be drawn into the language without code ISO 639-3, as well as the already existing language Wikipedia, including his other historical forms, spelling, another system of writing, slang or dialect without custom code ISO 639-3.


8. Historical language of Wikipedia: Latin, Sanskrit, Pali, Classical Chinese, Cornish, Manx, Old Church Slavonic, Serbo-Croatian, Anglo-Saxon, Gothic, Moldovan, Ottoman Turkish, Ancient Greek, Prussian, Coptic.

Artificial languages ​​of Wikipedia: Esperanto, Simple English, Ido, Intelingua, Volapuk, Novial, Intelingue, Lojban, Klingon, Quenya, Toki Pona, Lingua Franca Nova.

An application of creation of Wikipedia in any other language that has no native speakers cannot be accepted.


9. Latin, Sanskrit, Esperanto and Simple English have equal rights with the living languages ​​of Wikipedia. Cross-references to articles in Wikipedia on other historical and artificial languages ​​may be removed from the pages of Wikipedia in other languages. The decision about it is taken by the Wikipedia community of the corresponding language.


10. Any application for a new Wikipedia is considered by the Languages ​​Committee no later than for three months.

In case of rejection of the application by the Languages ​​Committee, the new application for the creation of Wikipedia in the same language may be presented not earlier than in five years after the rejection of the previous application. An application submitted before that day will be considered invalid.


11. In the case the application is accepted by the Languages ​​Committee , a page on the website "Wiki creation" is created for it. At least 30 substantive articles of the new wiki, and a main page should be created during the year since the inception of the page. If this condition is completed in one year a new Wiki is transferred to Wiki incubator.


12. The residence time for a wikipedia in wiki incubator is not limited. Once it reaches a sufficient level of development (a few hundred items of satisfactory quality), this wikipedia is transferred into Wikipedia and listed as existing.


13. If within one year stay in the "wiki creation" new Wikipedia could not reach the level of development referred to in paragraph 11, the application will be canceled and the corresponding Wikipedia page of the project deleted. A new application for the creation of Wikipedia in the same language may be submitted no earlier than in three years after the cancellation of the previous one. An application submitted before that day will be considered invalid.


14. Language committee shall determine its policy with respect to the other Wikimedia projects. As a general rule, applications for these projects can only be made by representatives of the existing Wikipedia.�



III. Transitional provisions


1. Wikipedia on Lezghian (lez), Kichwa - Chimborazo Highland Quichua (qug), Salar (slr), Tachelhit (shi), Yucatec Maya (yua), Lower Silesian (sli), Ancient Greek (grc) and Ottoman Turkish (ota) should be transferred from the Wiki incubator to the Wikipedia.


2. Wikipedia in the language of Lingua Franca Nova (lfn) redeployed from Wikia to Wikipedia.


3. Wikipedia in Prussian (prg), Klingons (tlh), Quenya (qya), Toki Pona (tok) transferred from a Wikia to the wiki incubator.


4. Moldovan (mol) Wikipedia should be unblocked.


5. Previously closed Wikipedias in Herero language (her), Sichuan Yi (ii), Marshallese (mh), Muskogee (Creek) (mus), Kwanyama (kj), Ndonga (ng), Choctaw (cho), Afar (aar), Kanuri (kr), Hiri Motu (ho) should be completely deleted from Wikipedia. These projects are no longer counted as present. They are treated as projects of Wiki incubator.


6. Due to changes in the rules wikipedias in the following languages are removed from the incubator: Middle English (enm), Middle Dutch (dum), Old Georgian (oge), Old High German (goh), Norn (nrn), Old Turkish (otk), Dalmatian Vegliot (dlm), Baybayin Tagalog (tgl), Mandarin Chinese (cmn), Creoles and pidgins (crp), Mayan languages (myn), Old Norse (non), Sindarin (sjn), Old Tupi (tpn), Franc-Comtois (x-fc), Old French (fro), Kurmanji (kmr), Ancient Aramaic (oar), Multilingual (Old) (another's ISO 639 code: old), Prekmurian (invalid ISO 639 code: pkm), Bolgarian (xbo), Tamazight (another's ISO 639 code: amz), Basay (byq), Pig Latin (another's ISO 639 code: pig), Basa Wringinanom (another's ISO 639 code: wra).

These projects can be optionally transferred to Wikia.


7. In Wiki incubator in accordance with paragraph 12 of the Charter there are Wikipedia in languages: Adygei (ady), Alabama (akz), Gheg Albanian (aln), Angika (anp), Mapuche (arn), Algerian Arabic (arq), Moroccan Arabic (ary), Tunisian Arabic (aeb), Ainu (ain), Araona (aro), Northern Altai (atv), Southern Balochi (bcc), Berber (ber), Badaga (bfq), Bakhtiari (bqi), Brahui (brh), Kaqchikel (cak), Chin (chi), Chukchi (ckt), Coptic (cop), Capiznon (cps), Central Dusun (dtp), Ese Ejja (ese), Central Yupik (esu), Fataluku (ddg), Tornedalen Finnish (fit), Cajun French (frc), Gilbertese (gil), Goan Konkani (gom), Gurani (hac), Hiligaynon (hil), Xiang Chinese (hsn), Ingush (inh), Ingrian (izh), Jamaican Creole English (jam), Krymchak (jct), Khowar (khw), Kirmanjki (kiu), Khorasani Turkish (kmz), Krio (kri), Kinaray-A (krj), Karelian (krl), Kumyk (kum), Zayein Karen (kxk), Liv (liv), Lakota (lkt), Ladin (lld), Northern Luri (lrc), Lushai (lus), Laz (lzz), Madurese (mad), Morisyen (mfe), Minangkabau (min), Manchu (mnc), Jamiltepec Mixtec (mxt), Central Nahuatl (nhn), Niuean (niu), Mezquital Otomi (ote), Panamint (par), Plautdietsch (pdt), Pipil (ppl), Rapanui (rap), Rarotongan (rar), Tarifit (rif), Rakahanga-Manihiki (rkh), Megleno Romanian (ruq), Sassarese Sardinian (sdc), Seri (sei), Shan (shn), Kildin Sami (sjd), Seraiki (skr), Southern Sami (sma), Swabian (swg), Tulu (tcy), Tokelau (tkl), Kok Borok (trp), Tausug (tsg), Northeastern Thai (tts), Tuvinian (tyv), Kulon-Pazeh (uun), East Franconian - Mainfrankisch (vmf), Votic (vot), Wilamowicean (wym), Nenets (yrk), Isthmus Zapotec (zai), Standard Zazaki (zza), Prussian (prg), Klingon (tlh), Quenya (qya), Toki Pona (tok), Herero (hz), Sichuan Yi (ii), Marshallese (mh), Muskogee (Creek) (mus), Kwanyama (kj), Ndonga (ng), Choctaw (cho), Afar (aar), Kanuri (kr), Hiri Motu (ho).


8. Wikipedia in the following languages are in the wiki incubator temporarily and conditionally:

Aranadan (aaf), Abaga (abg), Lampung Nyo (abl), Abaza (abq), Ambonese Malay (abs), Baharna Arabic (abv), Saint Lucian Creole French (acf), Acoli (ach), Cypriot Arabic (acy), Adangme (ada), Adhola (adh), Aghem (agq), Aghul (agx), South Levantine Arabic (ajp), Aklanon (akl), Alutor (alr), Southern Altai (alt), Amis (ami), Amarakaeri (amr), Uab Meto (aoz), North Levantine Arabic (apc), Awadhi (awa), Libyan Arabic (ayl), South Azerbaijani (azb), Baluchi (bal), Balinese (ban), Basa (Cameroon) (bas), Batak Toba (bbc), Ghomala' (bbj), Indonesian Bajau (bdl), Betawi (bew), Balti (bft), Eastern Balochi (bgp), Banggai (bgz), Bhili (bhb), Bima (bhp), Tukang Besi South (bhq), Biak (bhw), Edo (bin), Bakumpai (bkr), Bodo (India) (brx), Burushaski (bsk), Akoose (bss), Batak Dairi (btd), Batak Mandailing (btm), Rinconada Bikol (bto), Batak Simalungun (bts), Bateri (btv), Batak Karo (btx), Batak Alas-Kluet (btz), Bulu (Cameroon) (bum), Basay (byq), Chuukese (chk), Chinook jargon (chn), Cia-Cia (cia), Shor (cjs), Kavalan (ckv), Chulym (clw), Haka Chin (cnh), Pu-Xian Chinese (cpx), Chittagonian (ctg), Northern Catanduanes Bicolano (cts), Chol (ctu), Dargwa (dar), Dido (ddo), Demisa (dei), Dogri (dgo), Dime (dim), Dolgan (dlg), Dameli (dml), Dungan (dng), Western Dani (dnw), Duala (dua), Dusun Deyah (dun), Dyula (dyu), Ekari (ekg), Central Siberian Yupik (ess), Even (eve), Evenki (evn), Ewondo (ewo), Fala (fax), Filipino (fil), Kven Finnish (fkv), Fordata (frd), Gayo (gay), Galela (gbi), Garhwali (gbm), Guadeloupean Creole French (gcf), Gujari (gju), Nanai (gld), Gorontalo (gor), Swiss German (gsw), Wayuu (guc), Farefare (gur), Kalami (gwc), Gawar-Bati (gwt), Hazaragi (haz), Southern Hindko (hnd), Chhattisgarhi (hne), Huachipaeri (hug), Huastec (hus), Sabu (hvn), Purari (iar), Iban (iba), Ibibio (ibb), Ili Turki (ili), Isoko (iso), Istriot (ist), Itelmen (itl), Jambi Malay (jax), Judeo-Tat (jdt), Ngomba (jgo), Yamdena (jmd), Jingpho (kac), Ketangalan (kae), Kabiyu (kbp), Khanty (kca), Kalanga (kck), Karaim (kdr), Kabuverdianu (kea), Kei (kei), Ket (ket), Kanikkaran (kev), Kachchi (kfr), Kumaoni (kfy), Komering (kge), Kaingang (kgp), Khasi (kha), Tukang Besi North (khc), Sheshi Kham (kip), Khakas (kjh), Kiliwa (klb), Kalasha (kls), Kendayan (knx), Koryak (kpy), Bafia (ksf), S'gaw Karen (ksw), Kerinci (kvr), Kwinti (kww), Lachi (lbt), Tolaki (lbw), Lawangan (lbx), Ledo Kaili (lew), Lahu (lhu), Li'o (ljl), Lampung Api (ljp), Lozi (loz), Dholuo (luo), Maithili (mai), Makasar (mak), Mam (mam), North Moluccan Malay (max), Central Mazahua (maz), Mandar (mdr), Motu (meu), Pattani Malay (mfa), Bangka (mfb), Mayo (mfy), Ma'anyan (mhy), Western Xiangxi Miao (mmr), Muna (mnb), Manipuri (mni), Min Bei Chinese (mnp), Mansi (mns), Mon (mnw), Mongondow (mog), Mohawk (moh), Kota Bangun Kutai Malay (mqg), Mamasa (mqj), Manggarai (mqy), Mangareva (mrv), Maranao (mrw), Mundang (mua), Musi (mui), Peripheral Mongolian (mvf), Duri (mvp), Mentawai (mwv), Hmong Dawb (mww), Tlahuitoltepec Mixe (mxp), Nigeria Mambila (mzk), Nama (Namibia) (naq), North Ndebele (nde), Nias (nia), Ngaju (nij), Nganasan (nio), Nivkh (niv), Ao Naga (njo), Kwasio (nmg), Northern Thai (nod), Nogai (nog), South Ndebele (nr), Niuafo'ou (num), Northwestern Ojibwa (ojb), Tohono O'odham (ood), Paumarн (pad), Bouyei (pcc), Nigerian Pidgin (pcm), Piti (pcn), Pahari-Potwari (phr), Pijin (pis), Pоkoot (pko), Pukapuka (pkp), Palembang (plm), Pamona (pmf), Papuan Malay (pmy), Pinyin (pny), Dari (prs), Central Malay (pse), Tarascan - Western Highland Purepecha (pua), Cajamarca Quechua (qvc), Margos-Yarowilca-Lauricocha Quechua (qvm), Huaylla Wanca Quechua (qvw), Northern Conchucos Ancash Quechua (qxn), Qashqa'i (qxq), Rajasthani (raj), Rejang (rej), Romagnol (rgn), Rakhine (rki), Tae' (rob), Rotuman (rtm), Rutul (rut), Central Okinawan (ryu), Sasak (sas), Santali (sat), Saurashtra (saz), Shina (scl), Toraja-Sa'dan (sda), Southern Kurdish (sdh), Selkup (sel), Sentani (set), Kipsigis (sgc), Shughni (sgh), Shall-Zwall (sha), Xibe (sjo), Sikule (skh), Sika (ski), Lule Sami (smj), Inari Sami (smn), Simeulue (smr), Sumbawa (smw), Southern Thai (sou), Thao (ssf), Upper Saxon (sxu), Tabassaran (tab), Central Tarahumara (tar), Torres Strait Creole (tcs), Tai Nьa (tdd), Teso (teo), Tindi (tin), Tunjung (tjg), Dangaura Tharu (thl), Tsakhur (tkr), Talysh (tly), Tamashek (tmh), Tontemboan (tnt), Papantla Totonac (top), Tobian (tox), Torwali (trw), Tsakonian (tsd), Tsou (tsu), Muslim Tat (ttt), Tuvalu (tvl), Tonsea (txs), Tzeltal (tzh), Central Atlas Tamazight (tzm), Udi (udi), Unami - Delaware/Lenape (unm), Urum (uum), Huarijio (var), Tenggarong Kutai Malay (vkt), Wakhi (wbl), Wallisian (wls), Warapu (wra), Waxianghua (wxa), Kambera (xbr), Malayic Dayak (xdy), Manado Malay (xmm), Sherpa (xsr), Yagnobi (yai), Yaqui (yaq), Yangben (yav), Yidgha (ydg), Nhengatu (yrl), Southern Yukaghir (yux), Zou (zom), Zuni (zun), Youjiang Zhuang (zyj), Ahirani (ahr), Baniwa (bwi), Chuukese (chk), Fe'fe' (fmp), Ga (gaa), Western Gurung (gvr), Hangaza (han), Limbu (lif), Mbugu (mhd), Okanagan (oka), Palula (phl), Eastern Tamang (taj), Tucano (tuo), Nugunu (Cameroon) (yas), Istro Romanian (ruo), Ter Sami (sjt).


9. Should Wikipedia in any language listed in paragraph 8 of the Transitional Provisions reach up to 01/10/13 [date conditional. - IR] the level of development under paragraph 11 of the Charter language (at least 30 articles of satisfactory quality and well done home page), this Wiki will receive permanent status in the wiki incubator in accordance with paragraph 12 of the Language Charter.


10. All of Wikipedias, listed in paragraph 8 of the Transitional Provisions, which until 10/01/13 [date conditional. - IR] does not reach the level of development under paragraph 11 of the Charter language (at least 30 articles of satisfactory quality and well decorated Home) will be removed, and the application for the relevant language - repealed according to the paragraph 13 of the Charter.


11. All previously submitted applications to create new wikis, except those listed in paragraphs 7 and 8 of the Transitional Provisions (as well as the existing language Wikipedia) shall be considered as rejected in accordance with paragraph 10 of the Language Charter. New applications for these languages ​​can be made not earlier than in five years since the adoption of this Charter.


12. Rejection of an application to create a wiki in a language entails the automatic rejection of applications for the creation of other projects of the Wikimedia Foundation in that language.


13. In the Notes to the Official List of Wikipedia should be only the following points: "redirect" (for nan only), «decrecated» (for Alsatian only), "deleted" (for Siberian wiki and «September 11 Wiki»), «returned to Wiki-Incubator "(for the Herero, Sichuan Yi, Marshallese, Muskogee, Kwanyama, Ndonga, Choctaw, Afar, Kanuri, Hiri Motu, Toki Pona, Klingon) and "Languages ​​without code ISO 639-3, using duplicate or invalid code", as well as links to Wiki Incubator, Wiki creation and the list of rejected applications. The right to edit these notes in English will be given only to the members of the Language Committee.


14. All new Wikipedia projects applications accepted by the Languages ​​Committee, will continue to be posted on the website "Wiki creation" in accordance with the paragraphs 11 and 13 of the Language Charter.

Paccoxa 12:03, 03 January 2012 (UTC)

Hoi, in my opinion the Language committee is doing its job. The policy works pretty much as designed. It has a limited role leaving the projects as they are. With this proposal there will be a lot of upheaval and not all of it positive, much of it will be not positive at all. There is room for the language committee to do what it feels is necessary. This is done when its members agree unanimously and the WMF board as a rule accepts our proposals. Consequently I am not inclined to favour this proposal. Thanks, Gmeijssen 12:49, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

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Lezgi Wiki[edit]

Hello, I would like to know what else you need to create a full-fledged partition that you want to translate, and when it will be created Lezgins wikipedia. Thank YouLezgistxa (talk) 13:35, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

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Notice of removal of adminship[edit]

I regret to inform you that your administrator access has been removed, because you did not indicate that you wanted to keep it on the confirmation page within a week. Kind regards, Pmlineditor (t · c · l) 12:31, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

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Georgian Wikisource[edit]

When endorse Georgian Wikisource?

Hello GerardM. When endorse Georgian Wikisource?, All of the major messages have been translated. What else needs to be done to create a partition?--David1010 (talk) 08:04, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

I have asked my fellow members of the language committee for their opinion. As far as I am concerned, a new Wiki .. ka.wikisource.org is very much in the cards .. Gmeijssen (talk) 12:58, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Fiji Hindi[edit]

Hi

I am administrator at Fiji Hindi Wikipedia. Sometime ago you left me a message about fall back of hif to hif-latin. That would be preferred option. As a mater of fact, when the Wikipedia was originally set up, we intended for it to use Latin script only, but somebody (from higher up) decided that there should also be an option to use the Devanagri script. There is nothing in Devanagri script in the Wikipedia and we will prefer that by default hif uses the Latin script. Girmitya (talk) 03:54, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

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Cantonese Wikipedia proposed namespace changes[edit]

Hello! Just picked this up from [7]. Sorry for the late reply! I'm not sure what you're referring to, because the link has rotten already. However, you may wish to look at this bug. It is an attempt to localise the namespace names to Cantonese which ended up crashing the entire Cantonese Wikipedia.

The local consensus on the Cantonese Wikipedia is that we prefer the original English namespaces. In particular, we wish to point out that the monowidth colon is inherently foreign (same situation happened to the Chinese Wikipedia, but the transition broke fewer things so they settled with the colon being sandwiched between strings of Chinese words) to East Asian languages.

It should also be pointed out that retaining the English namespace names in the Cantonese Wikipedia is not necessarily against the purpose of localisation. The Cantonese-speaking world, which includes the provinces of Canton (Guangdong) and Guangxi, Hong Kong, Macau and overseas Chinese communities, have had centuries of heavy international contact. It has become standard linguistic practice to use foreign technical terms untranslated. Attempting to "localise" everything by creating new buzzwords often makes them sound even more unnatural and is usually unsuccessful. Deryck C. 15:29, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

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Minangkabau Wikipedia[edit]

Hello Gerard. I`m test admin from Minangkabau Wikipedia. Could you consider us for opening possibility for translating the interface at Translatewiki?] SpartacksCompatriot (talk) 11:42, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

It is already possible to localise in the Minangkabau language. There are only five message left to localise  !! Thanks, GerardM (talk) 18:53, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

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alternatives for namespaces of waray-waray wikipedia[edit]

Hi Gerard, I'm JinJian, an admin at Waray-Waray Wikipedia. Sometime in March 2012, we have discussed about namespaces for Waray-Waray Wikipedia. The result is still working fine however, a few would just transcribe the english namespace names to waray-waray instead of using the preferred term. There are few instances where "Category" is sometimes written as "Kategorya" or "Kategoriya" instead of the preferred "Kaarangay". It would not work because "kategorya" or "kategoriya" are currently not considered as alternatives. Would it be possible if "Kategorya" and "Kategoriya" will be considered alternatives for the preferred "Kaarangay"? Just like what was done to the namespace "File" where both "Fayl" and "Paypay" are currently accepted. For the "File" namespace, can we still add "Payl" as an alternative, but the preferred namespace still remains "Paypay".

I would also request if the following can be considered alternatives for the namespace "Special": "Ispisyal", "Espesyal", "Espisyal", "Ispesyal". However the preferred waray-waray term for this namespace should still be "Pinaurog". Thanks --JinJian (talk) 12:21, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

The place where you can identify the changes you are looking for is at [8]. Thanks, GerardM (talk) 14:43, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Javanese script[edit]

I just read your blog [9] and hoping that it could be realized soon. ꦩ​ꦠꦸꦂꦤꦸꦮꦸꦤ (matur nuwun - thanks). Bennylin 15:28, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

PS: do you know that http://www.translatewiki.net (with www.) is not working? Bennylin 15:51, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

About South Azerbaijani wiki (From 2008)[edit]

Salaam, dear GerardM I want to ask about South Azerbaijani Wikipedia (Wp/azb). The request for creation of azb test wiki was done at 2008-10-15. We asked many times like here, here, here and here, but it seems that all of them ignored. We want you to prioritize the azb status and it's creation. I saw the other created new wikis status. I think at least the azb test wiki reaches to that parameters that they have (See here or comapre Wp/azb and Wp/min contributors, revisions, articles, etc). We'll greatlly appreciate you, if you respond as soon as possible. Regards. --Arjanizary (talk) 13:06, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

hi, dear GerardM
Please the check . E THP (talk) 14:30, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
Yes, the work done on the wiki azb seems there is a problem in its opening,And concerns made So please check it.Thanks--Amir a57 (talk) 17:46, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

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Reply[edit]

Hello, I replied to something you said here: Talk:Requests_for_comment/Adopt_OmegaWiki#Technical_input_from_supporters. --Rinaku (t · c) 14:17, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

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For the Language Communitie's Information[edit]

Hi. We created a page that describes the South Azerbaijani Wikipedia status to inform language committee. Where should we add that page? Thanks --Arjanizary (talk) 18:16, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

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Requests for new languages/Wikivoyage Indonesian to be approved[edit]

Hi, I think Requests for new languages/Wikivoyage Indonesian is ready to be approved because because the article that there is quite a lot. In addition to the approval of Wikivoyage is expected to increase the contribution to this project. I hope the administrators can immediately approve this project immediately.

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luri language lrc in iran[edit]

hi my friend my name is mohammad mogoei and i want to create a luri wikipedia luri language is in iran that belong to lur people in south western of iran i create home page and other pages but unfortunately after this language accepted for iligiblity this Votes will be ignored when judging the proposal. Please provide arguments or reasons and be prepared to defend them i want to know what reason is for this problem and i can fix it?

this is a luri language home page

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages


thanks Mogoeilor

luri language lrc in iran[edit]

hi my friend my name is mohammad mogoei and i want to create a luri wikipedia luri language is in iran that belong to lur people in south western of iran i create home page and other pages but unfortunately after this language accepted for iligiblity this Votes will be ignored when judging the proposal. Please provide arguments or reasons and be prepared to defend them i want to know what reason is for this problem and i can fix it?

this is a luri language home page

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages


thanks Mogoeilor lrc lori (talk) 11:27, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

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luri lrc[edit]

Hello my friend
this is lrc portal https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Portal:Lrc
and this is my basic request!! how can I translate a message in luri lrc? and how can I enable to support translation into Lurish?
I mean how can I add luri lrc in supported language in translatewiki same as english or arabic or mazandarani!!!
please help me I need your urgent help so thanks lrc lori (talk) 04:07, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm surprised it has taken this long to have the language added. Gerard, can you help? Maybe someone else involved at TWN can do this... PiRSquared17 (talk) 04:24, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

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Hindi Wikipedia machine translation[edit]

Hello Gerard, as you're a fan of stats, Indian languages and machine translation: can you help adding more data on the measurable impact of translation drives and machine translation tools on the Hindi Wikipedia? I'd also be interested in comparisons with other Google Translator Toolkit initiatives (I seem to recall Swahili, possible?) and WikiBhasha (Hindi and Arabic I think?). --Nemo 08:40, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

luri lrc verification to eligiblity[edit]

Hello
please see luri lrc incubator https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/lrc/Main_Page can it be verified to eligiblity position? so thanks lrc lori (talk) 17:11, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

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Requests for new languages/Wikipedia South Levantine Arabic[edit]

It seems like the proposal at Requests for new languages/Wikipedia South Levantine Arabic doesn't even match the "South Levantine Arabic" it's supposed to be. User:AnonMoos mentions A Palestinian guy trying to make a standard writing for Palestinian Arabic. Do you think Nizar Habash would be interested in a true South Levantine Arabic?

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Reasonator <-> nl.wikipedia[edit]

Dag Gerard,

I feel free to talk in Dutch, if you don't mind.

Ik ben aan het proberen iets te snappen van wikidata. Ik moet zeggen dat het voor een niet-ingewijde in dit terrein niet allemaal even eenvoudig is, maar ik doe mijn best. Als ik concrete vragen heb, ben ik zo vrij je te benaderen. Is dat goed?

Op dit moment zit ik even met één prangende vraag:

  • waarom staat in "Reasonator" - de door jou aanbevolen tool - wikipedia.nl niet in het lijstje van "big wikipedias"? Ik wil me niet druk maken over de vraag of we nou op de tweede of de zesde plaats staan. Daar gaat het niet om. Maar wikipedia.nl is toch zonder twijfel één van de grote. Nu moet ik bij items steeds helemaal naar onderen scrollen (zelfs twee keer) om bij nl.wikipedia te komen. Hoe denk jij daarover?

Groet, zie ik je morgen op de wikimedia-nieuwjaarsborrel in Den Haag?

Dick Bos (talk) 16:41, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

I do not mind. But I prefer to respond in English :)
The big Wikipedias are the top 10 Wikipedias in traffic. Sadly for the Dutch, nl.wp is not one of them :) GerardM (talk) 16:46, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Want both sig links to be for you, or the bot? PiRSquared17 (talk) 14:22, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

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southern luri ( luz ) activition[edit]

hi m.r gerard , how are you., ihave written over 130 Subject for my language but I can not translate it because is not active for many month. can you help me?--علی ساکی لرستانی (talk) 14:13, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

I do not understand your problem ... What is not active ? Thanks, GerardM (talk) 14:16, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

hi , my language is not active to translate it into southern lurish,... can you help me?--علی ساکی لرستانی (talk) 13:50, 24 February 2014 (UTC) please help me --علی ساکی لرستانی (talk) 13:50, 24 February 2014 (UTC) I mean that I don't have to translate luz --علی ساکی لرستانی (talk) 13:50, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Asking Help for INCREASING TIBETAN FONT IN TIBETAN WIKIPEDIA <bo.wikipedia.org>[edit]

Hi, I was just contributor in tibetan wikipedia, on bo.wikipedia.org, tibetan font was too small and even coding every article with big ... /big like that, it still very small. so i don't know where to ask about this problem, and find solution. I found out that Dzongka wikipedia got big font, which is same font as tibetan. so there must be absolute solution. hope you can find out some help for us, we are waiting since long time. thanks for advance.

dz:MediaWiki:Common.css vs. bo:MediaWiki:Common.css. PiRSquared17 (talk) 13:28, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Doing it in Common.css can fix this locally. To make a better fix for all wikis with Tibetan font, this should be done in the framework of the Typography refresh project, which aims to gradually resolve all such problems for all languages. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 12:44, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

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Upcoming IdeaLab Events: IEG Proposal Clinics[edit]

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Filling red links with Wikidata[edit]

Needs a better title and some more context links, e.g. some of the blog posts that I'm unable to find on your blog. :) --Nemo 07:46, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

help in adminship[edit]

hello
I request to adminship in wikimedia incubator [10] please support this point
so thankslrc lori (talk) 13:23, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

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Economic Data Project[edit]

Hi Gerard, just saw on a page (crashed afterwards - which one?) your opinion on the project of the Iranian guy who wanted to collect economic data. I have no clue what it is about, but is the problem really getting money to him??? Or do the Wikimedia guys not want to have any transaction with Iran because of axis of evil legislation in US? If it should be a practical question - no problem. It will not be many thousands, i guess. I work in Teheran, so there are lots of ways (without which I could not live here myself). Ok, I have no clue what it is about - but if you can turn anything and need a solution tell me on my sw-page (I do not come here often). Cheers Kipala (talk) 20:34, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes, there are many ways to solve any issues involved. The reason is because of USAmerican legislation as you rightfully assume. It is important to take these laws seriously enough. Thanks, GerardM (talk) 10:57, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

luri lrc nominate for verification[edit]

Hello
luri lrc wiki incubator was active in ten months past and it has 4 active users with me[11] and this is luri lrc translations[12] statics, please help us could you suggest luri lrc wikitest to language committe for verification? we need who someone that suggest luri lrc to language committe for verification, could you do this request for us? we really need your help It's our honor Mr GeradM that you do this request
best wisheslrc lori (talk) 11:37, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

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Rinconada localisation (bto)[edit]

Hi! Please update the localisation activity of Rinconada language. Thanks. --Filipinayzd (talk) 19:11, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

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I can't await ... to go[edit]

I can't await you to go, and our good working discussion system to retain. Your contributions on the mailinglist show an egocentrism that should make you feel embarassed of yourself. I just can tell you that nearly noone will miss you. So good bye. --178.0.93.254 11:09, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you brave anonymous coward for having a thought. I am really obvious that I have an opinion. I use arguments and I keep it to the point and personal. If embarrassment comes into play, it is because of the quality of arguments that are being used; they are lacking realism. When you embarrass yourself by stating "our good working discussion system" I really wonder how you came to miss all the evidence that has been given that proves the point how wrong you are. Thanks, GerardM (talk) 16:29, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Superprotect status[edit]

Dear GerardM, since you are an administrator on a wiki from which no user participated in this discussion, I'd like to make sure you are aware of some recent events which may alter what the Wikimedia Foundation lets you do on your wiki: Superprotect.

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Is it possible yo change iso code of a language?[edit]

Hello GerardM, hope you're fine. I want to ask about something that could happen in the future (I know you're not Genie!). Our goal is not just making a Tunisian Wikipedia but also making better Tunisian contents for Tunisians. That's why, I see that maybe we will get a new ISO 639-2 code for Standard Tunisian. At that time, can we change the code of Tunisian Wikipedia from aeb to *** (the new code) or not? (because the aeb is for Spoken Tunisian Arabic, not for Standard Tunisian)

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Wikipedia Western Baluchi(bgn)[edit]

Hello Mr GerardM !

I want to support Western Balochi language at Wikipedia, because its my native language and I want to work for our language, the Balochi language is a macro language have a several dialect, that every dialect have with each other difference now we have wiki test in Southern balochi language (bcc) but I cannot understand all this language, its language of South of Balochistan and we live in North Balochistan( Afghanistan) and our dialect are difference , so we want to start a new wiki test (bgn)[13] Western Balochi and in our native language its (Balochi Rakhshani= بلوچی رخشانی) this language spoken in Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, Turkemnistan, Uzbekistan and other countries. Please help us. so thanks.....

Ibrahim khashrowdi (talk) 19:22, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Best chance you'll have at OmegaWiki. , Ibrahim. Kind regards,  Klaas `Z4␟` V 08:20, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
Mr @Patio: Thanks a lot.--Ibrahim khashrowdi (talk) 19:23, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

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Fwd: Damon: e.g. "what types of searches are happening?"[edit]

From WMF Metrics and activities meetings/Quarterly reviews/Analytics/January 2015. This is an old cavallo di battaglia of yours. :) --Nemo 13:21, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

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Feedback needed from LangCom[edit]

Dear member of the Language Committee, can you please try to answer some of the messages on Talk:Language committee (and its archive)? Many people are asking for updates and indications about their requests, but they are almost never getting an answer of any kind. Candalua (talk) 12:27, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

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1 year activity of South Azerbaijani Wikipedia[edit]

hi mr GerardM !

South Azerbaijani Wikipedia (azb wiki) is active in last 12 month with at lest 3 editor. our wiki have 6108 pages, 25833 revisions, logo, 100% of the most used MediaWiki messages have been localised, a valid language code and now please say that what we need to do to improve our project?
thanks.

--Koroğlu (talk) 08:46, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

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