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Re: Nintendo Power out of the Internet Archive

by CRTGAMER Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:47 pm

Ack wrote:Since folks had been talking about the Metroid II remake, I figured I'd share something else that Nintendo recently had taken down: 145 issues of Nintendo Power in the Internet Archive.

That's right, 145 issues of Nintendo Power were uploaded to the Internet Archive back in February...and nobody noticed until last week. Then Nintendo fans found it. Then Nintendo found it. Now it's gone.

Nintendo wrote:The unapproved use of Nintendo's intellectual property can weaken our ability to protect and preserve it, or to possibly use it for new projects.

http://www.polygon.com/2016/8/8/12405278/nintendo-power-issues-disappear-from-free-online-archive

I can see if someone was making money off the PDFs, but they were free bit of History! Yes Nintendo was within their rights, but still they are old out of print issues! Copy right is really ridiculous when the company do not offer a way for fans to access the out of print data.
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Re: Nintendo Power out of the Internet Archive

by marurun Sun Aug 14, 2016 5:55 pm

ejamer wrote:Point of my response is to point out that you're being a dick, in case you somehow weren't already aware.


I think you're reading something into his words that isn't there, because I didn't have this impression at all.
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Re: Nintendo Power out of the Internet Archive

by ejamer Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:24 pm

Ack wrote:Chief, any implication of tone is on your end, based on some kind of misreading. You're now being a dick, and a rude one at that. I suggest you go reread the forum rules on behavior.


Eh, I stand by what I said. Why make a thread just to bitch about something that already happened, that can't be changed, and that any reasonably intelligent person would literally expect to happen?

You make a pointlessly negative post, happily escalate with your response, then toss around "read the forum rules" as a lightly veiled ban threat? Whatever man. Do what what you have to.
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Re: Nintendo Power out of the Internet Archive

by ejamer Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:29 pm

CRTGAMER wrote:...

I can see if someone was making money off the PDFs, but they were free bit of History! Yes Nintendo was within their rights, but still they are old out of print issues! Copy right is really ridiculous when the company do not offer a way for fans to access the out of print data.


Someone is making money off content from those magazines though - one company is paying to licence the comics within old Nintendo Power magazines, and then printing/selling them as collections that are either currently in stores or planned for release before long. Legally, the original source needs to be protected from people just dumping it all online and making it freely available to the public without permission.

I know IP rights aren't something people respect, and agree that copyright law can sometimes be ridiculous. But what do you expect to happen in this case? It's only a "free bit of history" if/when the people who actually own the content agree to give it away for free. When they are actively selling it, of course having people give it away for free without permission isn't going to fly.
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Re: Nintendo Power out of the Internet Archive

by Ack Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:05 pm

ejamer wrote:
Ack wrote:Chief, any implication of tone is on your end, based on some kind of misreading. You're now being a dick, and a rude one at that. I suggest you go reread the forum rules on behavior.


Eh, I stand by what I said. Why make a thread just to bitch about something that already happened, that can't be changed, and that any reasonably intelligent person would literally expect to happen?

You make a pointlessly negative post, happily escalate with your response, then toss around "read the forum rules" as a lightly veiled ban threat? Whatever man. Do what what you have to.

No, I made a post about an event that occurred at a similar time as another one. You apparently misinterpeted the meaning of that post and then used it as a means to insult me, thus escalating it. You have apparently chosen to continue reading my posts incorrectly and choosing to insult me ffor some reason I can only assume is personal on your end. Either way, I will not tolerate your behavior any further. You either apologize, or I will issue you a warning over your actions.
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Re: Nintendo Power out of the Internet Archive

by ejamer Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:47 pm

Was going to PM instead of posting to stop the thread crapping, but don't take well to public "apologize or else" ultimatums when PMs work just as well. If that's your preferred approach to moderation, then by all means let's hash it out here.

You have neither said nor done anything to change my opinion. Your first response to me might be entirely fair, but only a fool would believe that it's not escalation or a dick post.

It's unfortunate if someone who you don't know or care about posted something in an online forum that you took personally, but I don't regret anything and won't offer false apologies.

ejamer wrote:Whatever man. Do what what you have to.



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ejamer wrote:The tone of the OP is really annoying. I mean, what's the point of this thread?


To inform that it happened. The tone of your post is really annoying. I mean, what's the point of your response?
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Re: Nintendo Power out of the Internet Archive

by MrPopo Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:26 pm

Considering you started with a dick post I can think of a parable involving pots and kettles.
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Re: Nintendo Power out of the Internet Archive

by Ack Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:50 am

Very well. After consultation with multiple moderators and site admin, who found your actions and attitude unorthodox and out of character, I am issuing you a warning for your behavior.
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Re: Nintendo Power out of the Internet Archive

by MrPopo Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:52 am

Locking this because it's clearly got no where else to go.
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