tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569681.post115872002934304545..comments2017-06-22T22:21:59.758-07:00Comments on Geeking with Greg: Tagging should be automatedGreg Lindenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09216403000599463072noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569681.post-1159508373066695342006-09-28T22:39:00.000-07:002006-09-28T22:39:00.000-07:00Alex:Indeed, del.icio.us is full of spammers. I w...Alex:<BR/>Indeed, del.icio.us is full of spammers. I wonder how many of their 1M users are spammers. I know a lot of spammers that get zapped at <A HREF="http://www.simpy.com/" REL="nofollow">Simpy</A> come from del.icio.us, where they didn't get zapped.<BR/><BR/>Easton Ellsworth:<BR/>Tags are like facial hair - you've got to groom them, massage them through time. At Simpy that can be gone through the tag management interface that offers: merge, split, delete, and rename functionality. There is also tag completion functionality that quickly uncovers "conflicts" (e.g. using both rss and RSS or plural and singular).Otis Gospodnetichttp://www.simpy.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569681.post-1158848388582142862006-09-21T07:19:00.000-07:002006-09-21T07:19:00.000-07:00Todays popularity of tagging reminds me of the dir...Todays popularity of tagging reminds me of the directory fever with dmoz, yahoo directory and others in the web 1.0 days. These directory have sunken into oblivion with better search algorithms, in particular with googles page rank.<BR/>Will manual tagging have the same fate with progress in automated information extraction?<BR/><BR/>Tools for information extraction are already available. Here an example for a rss location extractor :<BR/>http://www.geonames.org/rss-to-georss-converter.html<BR/><BR/>Marcmarchttp://www.geonames.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569681.post-1158776629511685142006-09-20T11:23:00.000-07:002006-09-20T11:23:00.000-07:00Tagging can be outsourced, if not crowdsourced.Tagging can be outsourced, if not crowdsourced.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569681.post-1158764220667723812006-09-20T07:57:00.000-07:002006-09-20T07:57:00.000-07:00Good post. Tagging not only takes lots of time, b...Good post. Tagging not only takes lots of time, but it's harder tdo than people often think. Plural or singular? Infinitive or gerund? Which word to use? etc.<BR/><BR/>BTW Greg, got a Movable Type/Technorati question for ya. How does auto-tagging work? I sometimes see people coming to my blog via a Technorati tag that I didn't use - say, "Fortune 500" when, although I did mention that phrase in my post, I didn't specifically use that tag. Any ideas?Easton Ellsworthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06085676567299530414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569681.post-1158762617776379152006-09-20T07:30:00.000-07:002006-09-20T07:30:00.000-07:00My custom RSS reader uses Yahoo to automatically t...My custom RSS reader uses Yahoo to automatically tag all incoming feed items. For instance, this post was tagged with the following automatically:<BR/><BR/>tagging, matt mcalister, lot, social software, browser history, button click, skeptic, initiate, mainstream, organize, warrant, mom, blog<BR/><BR/>I'm not claiming it's perfect, but it isn't terrible.J Wyniahttp://www.wynia.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569681.post-1158730840346658942006-09-19T22:40:00.000-07:002006-09-19T22:40:00.000-07:00I've never really thought about how they do it... ...I've never really thought about how they do it... but when you "dot" something with the Bluedot bookmarklet, it will usually automatically fills in a couple tags for you.Adamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01798780122426727307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569681.post-1158730168876474702006-09-19T22:29:00.000-07:002006-09-19T22:29:00.000-07:00Tagging in the del.icio.us sense is something only...Tagging in the del.icio.us sense is something only a person can do. I can't really say it better than Clay Shirky though: http://www.shirky.com/writings/ontology_overrated.html<BR/><BR/>It would also ruin the del.icio.us community if people had automated tags, there's a 10:1 ratio of people who don't post to del.icio.us who do post, if it were automated the value of browsing tags would go way down.<BR/><BR/>Spam's definitely a problem on del.icio.us, but it's not insurmountable if they change the way the interface shows tag activity that puts barriers for spammers.Alex Bosworthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10449851843415685551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569681.post-1158729549333144442006-09-19T22:19:00.000-07:002006-09-19T22:19:00.000-07:00I think too that tagging procudes a lot of overhea...I think too that tagging procudes a lot of overhead and consumes too much time. In my opinion analysing attention data and user behavior has a lot of potential. We really should shift time we spent categorizing to a server and let it do the work.Walterhttp://www.metaportaldermedienpolemik.netnoreply@blogger.com
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