Forum » Topic: How does other stuff for NB get submitted? http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982 The NewsBiscuit Community en-US Sat, 01 Oct 2016 22:29:28 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 <![CDATA[Search]]> q http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/search.php rickwestwell on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982&page=2#post-63137 Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:46:57 +0000 rickwestwell 63137@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Thanks, Stan! </p> Stan on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982&page=2#post-63124 Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:16:46 +0000 Stan 63124@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Thanks, Stan. </p> rikkor on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982&page=2#post-63049 Wed, 30 Mar 2011 23:42:49 +0000 rikkor 63049@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Westy, it's not me, It's the RBFC talking. I'm not meself. </p> rickwestwell on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982&page=2#post-63039 Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:18:35 +0000 rickwestwell 63039@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Gosh, what an interesting thread! I hadn't really noticed it until recently, to be honest.<br /> :-) </p> Qoxiivi on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982&page=2#post-63027 Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:19:36 +0000 Qoxiivi 63027@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Do people really do that? Personally, if I think something's good I'll mark it as such. Credit where credit's due. </p> rikkor on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982&page=2#post-63024 Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:16:47 +0000 rikkor 63024@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Dannyboy, do what everyone else here does: get two or three other "noms", start an online conversation with yourself about how great the sub is, and best of all, keep marking yours up while giving other authors' subs ones. That should do it. </p> Des Custard on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982&page=2#post-62947 Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:37:27 +0000 Des Custard 62947@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>At least Rick will be able to read this thread now, which must come as a great relief. </p> Stan on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982&page=2#post-62895 Wed, 30 Mar 2011 07:59:02 +0000 Stan 62895@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Hi Danny and welcome.</p> <p>Firstly, if you haven't already, take a look at this. "Guidelines for Contributors" . This is what NB is looking for. It's pretty simple and will help you understand the formula.</p> <p>There is no magic to it, but it does take a lot of practice. Whilst some of the greats on the site hit the ground running, it took me 3 or 4 months for my first FP then nearly as long again for my next. All the time I was convinced that my subs were comic genius, but looking back now they look more as if they had been pinched from an old comic. </p> <p>Try to be original. There are a lot of posts from people that have been doing the rounds for hours, or days, on Twitter and other media. The Editorial Team know what they're doing and are not in the business of using third hand material. </p> <p>If your thing is one liners. Make sure they fit into the one line. It is no good doing a headline then a punchline, it won't fit the ticker. If you think there is mileage in your idea then try to write it up as a NiB (up to 150 words) or the full monty (250 - 400 words).</p> <p>As for getting noticed. Fresh, well written material will always get attention. Take time over your subs. It is better to sub one polished peice a week than a whole load of half baked ideas. A hilarious idea is only part of the process. </p> <p>Finally, don't take any notice of the trolls. Like bad smells, they are unpleasant but rarely linger too long. </p> <p>I'm going to shut up now. Hope you find this helpful. </p> dannyboy206 on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982&page=2#post-62882 Wed, 30 Mar 2011 05:53:39 +0000 dannyboy206 62882@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Hi guys, I'm new to the site but have visited the site every other day for a long time to get my fix. Does anyone have any tips on how to get your articles noticed. I started an article the other day that I hoped would get some feedback and ideas for how to proceed with the story, but it quickly slipped down the pages. </p> Des Custard on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982&page=2#post-62575 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 07:46:42 +0000 Des Custard 62575@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Funny you should say that Rick, and g'day to yer mate. Out of interest I googled <em>private jet tax</em> recently and the Thunderbirds thing came up on the first page. Someone should get in touch with Google and tell them their scoring system algorithm is flawed and biased (it probably is, because it gets to know personal preferences, but that's another matter). </p> <p>Anyway...it's easy to get a hit with a specific headline, but that kind of generic hit could mean thousands of really exciting accountants accidentally getting to know NewsBiscuit, which can't be bad. Or maybe it can. </p> <p>Basically, we're all part of a team here, and we all have different roles, from our esteemed leader to the inner sanctum of comedy geniuses to the plodders like me and Stan and the one liner specialists and the commenters and even rikkor. Bouts of in-fighting don't help anyone. </p> <p>Regarding the scoring system, it's obviously possible to give a score without commenting and vice versa, and maybe there is a degree of 'brand traction'. The top ten appears to be driven by average score, total scores and age of scores, but it's only a bit of fun and plenty of stuff gets published without appearing there. </p> <p>As to stuff reaching the ticker or NiB or FP without going through due process, it's extremely rare in my experience except when the editor or editorial team contribute an FP, as in the case of the Crash Test Dummies recently. They contribute far fewer FPs than say two years ago and are probably pleased to leave the hard graft to others for the most part. </p> <p>Being able to submit via the writers' room is a privilege as well as a grooming opportunity, but there are no 'rights' associated with it. And while we're on the subject, the writers' room isn't somewhere to post links or thoughts for general discussion: put those in the chat room and use the writer's room for intended tickers, FPs or NiBs. </p> rickwestwell on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982&page=2#post-62572 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 07:13:46 +0000 rickwestwell 62572@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Sorry, I'm not reading this thread until Des and Stan comment. </p> Jeremy Hunt on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982&page=2#post-62571 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 06:31:17 +0000 Jeremy Hunt 62571@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Golgo-san,I enjoyed your post very much.The choice of vocabulary,the phrasing,is indicative of a sharp intellect and total command of the english language.I hope you'll continue to post in the same vein for the many ,and growing, number of contributors like myself.<br /> Thank you<br /> Jeremy </p> Golgo13 on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982&page=2#post-62561 Sun, 27 Mar 2011 22:35:34 +0000 Golgo13 62561@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I think there can be an element of brand traction involved. Many people don't have time to evaluate every post - especially those weighty 350 word ones! Phew! So time-poor risk-averse star-givers will be more likely to read posts from writers who have already established a compelling and unique relationship paradigm value proposition. </p> rikkor on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982&page=2#post-62552 Sun, 27 Mar 2011 22:05:42 +0000 rikkor 62552@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Look at my super-secret private message. Groom, groom. </p> be reasonable on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982&page=2#post-62538 Sun, 27 Mar 2011 19:07:18 +0000 be reasonable 62538@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>By the by, can anyone tell me how to import pictures into this? </p> be reasonable on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982&page=2#post-62452 Sat, 26 Mar 2011 18:03:40 +0000 be reasonable 62452@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I can never tell them apart - which one is Dave and which is Ed? </p> Ironduke on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982#post-62446 Sat, 26 Mar 2011 17:40:06 +0000 Ironduke 62446@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Fair summary Neal! </p> <p>I agree much of Des and Stan's stuff seems good; but so do lots of other pieces and it doesn't seem a level playing field.</p> <p>Of course, as you point out (at least subliminally) mine is jolly fantastic and it was mere modesty that was holding me back from eulogising about my witty-hood. </p> nealdoran on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982#post-62432 Sat, 26 Mar 2011 15:02:55 +0000 nealdoran 62432@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Ah, Ironduke, you're causing a wave of nostalgia to the old days here on Newsbiscuit, when the voting system and all its quirks were subject of regular ferocious debate. It's been a while since somebody's put their head above the parapet and complained about the content of the Top Ten -- it's never because they feel their subs are being neglected, it's because of 'lots of other great stuff' -- and it's nice to see it back. </p> <p>The possibility that Des &amp; Stan are two of the more popular and funny subbers around here that people might vote for without leaving a comment is obviously too far fetched. I think it's probably cos they look like this:</p> <p> </p> Ironduke on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982#post-62387 Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:22:18 +0000 Ironduke 62387@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Milton Keynes Ultra? Is that the militant wing of the neighbourhood watch? </p> the coarse whisperer on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982#post-62373 Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:42:04 +0000 the coarse whisperer 62373@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Can I just point out how disappointing these conspiracy theories are? One that doesn't work in MKUltra, the Cuban mafia, Marilyn Monroe's 'suicide', UFOs, the girl guides and Nazi occultists isn't even worth firing up the black helicopter for. </p> Ironduke on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982#post-62372 Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:35:03 +0000 Ironduke 62372@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I'd love to believe it was all done completely arbitrarily by a formula like that, but this post <a href="http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22787" rel="nofollow">http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22787</a> </p> <p>that I cited first on this page was into the top ten less than an hour after being posted with hardly any comments or scores.</p> <p>I know its a bit of fun, but if it seems rather self-agrandizing to pop your own work into the top ten and takes a little of the shine off the site- particularly when those posts always seem to beat other work at least its equal into the feature slots (and I'm not referring to my own here). </p> NewSuburbanDad on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982#post-62367 Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:51:22 +0000 NewSuburbanDad 62367@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Ah, no that's probably a real one. The top ten has to refresh every so often or the same stories would get stuck there. The formula is based on both star rating and number of votes, so a post that got tons of three stars would rank above one that got four stars but only a quarter of the votes. Clearly loads of people vote for Des and Stan ( and why not?) and when the scoreboard refreshed they sprung straight in at number five. My story went from number 9 to number 2 at the same time. Don't sweat about the scores, it's meant to be fun! </p> rikkor on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982#post-62359 Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:31:30 +0000 rikkor 62359@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>ID, I would like to say "don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out", but I can't, as only three people sub on this site these days. And besides that, I think you're swell. (Groom, groom...) </p> Ironduke on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982#post-62356 Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:23:32 +0000 Ironduke 62356@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p><a href="http://www.newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=23020" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=23020</a></p> <p>no comments at all in the 11 hours its been up, yet straight into the top ten- as has been every single other story they have posted.</p> <p>In the absence of a level playing field, and with this apparent self-promotion, I'm vergeing on collecting up my toys from the dispirate circle around my pram and toddling off to another site, leaving a strong whiff of huff and a slimy trail of high dudgeon behind me </p> NewSuburbanDad on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982#post-62290 Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:28:38 +0000 NewSuburbanDad 62290@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Some contributors have always tried to fool the voting system and post multiple votes for themselves over and over.<br /> As for delayed publication, it's not always possible for JoF (or his new clones) to edit everything that's considered suitable on the same day it's posted, so they'll always have a bunch of half- edited stories kicking around. And Red has to work his magic as well.<br /> If a post comes in that is perfect in every way (where are Mary Evans or Genghis Cohen?) then it jumps the queue, and the editors wrap up and head to the pub. So, the better your prose, the more likely your brilliant idea will be acted on quickly. So stop smoking in the chat room toilets and get back to work! </p> Ironduke on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982#post-62271 Fri, 25 Mar 2011 01:10:11 +0000 Ironduke 62271@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>It was the instant leap into the top ten (one of four on there from the same poster) that tickled my suspicious. </p> rikkor on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982#post-62266 Fri, 25 Mar 2011 00:11:30 +0000 rikkor 62266@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Malgor, please update your references; raging heterosexuals are now (since the Ice Age) also backdoor afficianados. They just might not be sharing this knowledge with those they don't want joining in. </p> malgor on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982#post-62264 Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:49:19 +0000 malgor 62264@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Now come on guys, don't say you've never heard of the 'backdoor'. It can mean a variety of things to different folks, like 'security glitch' to an IT person, or 'rear entrance' to a raving homosexual. In NewsBiscuit's case, however, it's in a back street of Soho, down some steps you never noticed were there before. The secret knock is not difficult to guess. </p> thisisall1word on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982#post-62245 Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:17:04 +0000 thisisall1word 62245@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I think it's been said before...<br /> Any front page, NiB, ticker content can either come direct from the subs board (and tidied up) -or- comes from elsewhere such as direct from the editorial team or an outside contributor - back in the day that was stuff like David Badiell's brother who I'm sure has his own name giving good stories direct to the Ed.</p> <p>The editorial team something track stories they like using the RSS feeds - these can sometimes be quite old stuff! So a story from weeks back could still be used as a NiB.</p> <p>No idea how the top 10 works though - odd if a story could get there before being voted for! </p> Qoxiivi on "How does other stuff for NB get submitted?" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22982#post-62234 Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:07:32 +0000 Qoxiivi 62234@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>You have my sympathies... </p>
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