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View Poll Results: What rank system would you like DaemonForums to use?
Kienja's System 5 14.71%
BSDForums' Ranks 1 2.94%
Unix Hierarchy 11 32.35%
Custom Titles (Users choose their own) 17 50.00%
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Old 11th May 2008
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Key:
Title – Number of required posts

New User - 0
Port Guard – 20
Fdisk Soldier – 46
Shell Scout – 84
Package Pilot – 140
Spam Deminer – 220
VPN Cryptographer – 330
ISO Quartermaster – 476
Fsck Surgeon – 664
Rc.conf Instructor - 900
Arp Constable – 1193
Regex Recruiter – 1552
Tcpdump Spy – 1986
Syslog Inspector – 2504
Disklabel Sergeant – 3115
Firewall Lieutenant – 3828
Kernel Captain – 4652
Netstat Major – 5596
Ifconfig Colonel – 6669
Routing General – 7880
Module Marshal – 9238
Xterm Admiral – 10752
Filesystem Commander – 12434
Inetd Intendant – 14296
Grep Wizard – 16350
Chief of Disks – 18605
Chief of Daemons – 21076

I realize those post counts for the higher ranks are absurd, but when we consider that DaemonForums will outlive BSDForums by many years, I certainly think it is possible for some users to reach these ranks. My hope is that an exponential model would allow small steps in the early ranks to encourage new users, but large steps in the higher ranks to challenge long term users. I suppose I could tone down the post requirements if needed.

Edit: I took out all the unneeded math crap.
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Final Note: Any forum users who are so unfortunate as to have never learned any Calculus should immediately stop whatever worthless tasks they are toiling over and begin to learn the only true beacon in life: Calculus.
*grin* This is particularly apropos since I am taking a break from solving a PDE that right now I have the first term of a double asymptotic expansion.
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I vote for these:
http://www.educ.umu.se/~bjorn/unix/wizard.html
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Yes I vote for these too, UNIX is an arcane art. So we need Wizards yielding the magic to impress the beginners
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I vote for the ranks on that website, the ones above sound rather childish admin.. no offence.
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I vote for my post count as it was on bsdforums.

I really start to hate all of you admins, because I am again noob/New User.
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I like the nexus one, where you can choose your own ranking.
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Yeah! The ones with the white bullets would be funny.
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With the post count I've accumulated between the forums that I visit daily: I would be happy if my post count stays LOW in comparison to other people...
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Well, post count might simply mean that you have a lot of questions that you're too lazy to research. So, I've never been too concerned about my post count anywhere.

For example, on bsdforums, I had to laugh when a particular FreeBSD developer posted and was called a Newbie while I was some sort of kernel saunders or whatever it was called.
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Key:
Title – Number of required posts (First derivative of posts) (Second derivative of posts)

Set 1:
Third derivative of 6
New User - 0
Port Guard – 20 (20)
Fdisk Soldier – 46 (26) (6)
Shell Scout – 84 (38) (12)
Package Pilot – 140 (56) (18)
Spam Deminer – 220 (80) (24)
VPN Cryptographer – 330 (110) (30)
ISO Quartermaster – 476 (146) (36)
Fsck Surgeon – 664 (188) (42)
Rc.conf Instructor - 900 (236) (48)
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Set 2:
Third derivative of 9
Arp Constable – 1193 (293) (57)
Regex Recruiter – 1552 (359) (66)
Tcpdump Spy – 1986 (434) (75)
Syslog Inspector – 2504 (518) (84)
Disklabel Sergeant – 3115 (611) (93)
Firewall Lieutenant – 3828 (713) (102)
Kernel Captain – 4652 (824) (111)
Netstat Major – 5596 (944) (120)
Ifconfig Colonel – 6669 (1073) (129)
Routing General – 7880 (1211) (138)
Module Marshal – 9238 (1358) (147)
Xterm Admiral – 10752 (1514) (156)
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Set 3:
Third derivative of 12
Filesystem Commander – 12434 (1682) (168)
Inetd Intendant – 14296 (1862) (180)
Grep Wizard – 16350 (2054) (192)
Chief of Disks – 18605 (2255) (204)
Chief of Daemons – 21076 (2471) (216)
1 more vote from me. I love those name conventions <3

However, post count doesnt indicate how competent user is. Maybe he asks too much, he loves spamming or simply he is very active. The more accurate way to assess is the number of times he is thanked. But at the end of the day, ranking is just spice of the main course, I'd rather spend more time to improve the forum content. The success of the forum depends upon how good the content is.
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I'm with richardpl & BSDfan666 on this one. BSDForums' ranks are one of the few things that site got right. Using powers of two was a true insight.

Last edited by ocicat; 12th May 2008 at 10:06 AM.
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I'm with richardpl & BSDfan666 on this one and if we can make mix of vermaden it is better.
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i'm with scottro and nexus ones. and i totally agree with 18Googol2 about user competency not being measured from the number of posts, but having ranks keep the users around. no users => no forum .

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I may be in the minority..

I don't care..
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I don't care either. Right now my learning is 'spikey', that is, on a graph it would show I know a lot about things here and there but have trouble with the troughs in between. Being a one man shop I can be too 'jack of all trades'. If I soon reached any kind of loftier status based on posts alone, it would be a lie.

I like the idea mentioned above of choosing your own. Or if it was possible to have a form where one would select from that Unix Wizard site anything one could do, then use that to determine it, I just like that.
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I like the new list. Of course it's not a true description of the person inside- no badge is. But I like the list categories... entertaining.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by richardpl
I vote for my post count as it was on bsdforums.
Do you mean post count or rank system? If you truly mean post count, then you can forget it. We are not going to transfer post counts from BSDForums. If, however, you actually mean rank system, then that might be a possibility.

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That is another possibility.

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I like the nexus one, where you can choose your own ranking.
'Tis another possibility.

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I really start to hate all of you admins, because I am again noob/New User.
Sorry. Just ignore all of the math in my post and you have everything that is important.

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post count might simply mean that you have a lot of questions that you're too lazy to research. So, I've never been too concerned about my post count anywhere.
Post count says nothing more than how diligent a user is in visiting and posting at the forums. Unfortunately, this is many times not how the ranks are interpreted.

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For example, on bsdforums, I had to laugh when a particular FreeBSD developer posted and was called a Newbie while I was some sort of kernel saunders or whatever it was called.
Choosing our own titles is certainly a possibility. The fact that user ranks misrepresented some people has always bothered me, but none of the ranking systems proposed would remedy this, save for scottro's (Choose our own titles).

In light of the exceedingly mixed response to the new ranks, I will post a poll to see what we should end up doing. I will leave it open for some time, just so we can get a good representation of users.
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Love it!
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I like the nexus one, where you can choose your own ranking.
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