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Welcome Faizanali

Hi Faizan Ali, welcome to Grand Theft Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay.

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-- gboyers talk 00:08, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Re: Badges

Nrg badges.png

Hi Faizanali, and welcome to GTW! Looking at the badge you uploaded, am I right in saying that is a texture file extracted from the game's files? Different parts of that image are used on different parts of the bike, for example the "NRG 900 RR" on this image.

If that's is correct, I think it would be wrong to upload the whole texture to this website. That would just be copying the game files onto this website, which is not what we are for. We need useful, relevant information and images. What would maybe be better is if you extracted the relevant parts from that image - for example the 'NRG 900 RR' part (to show the logo for that bike), or the Shitzu logo. Uploading those things separately, and showing them in the article separately, makes them useful. Just uploading the whole texture in one go is not very useful, and it might be wrong to do that.

If you're not able (or willing) to cut out all the individual parts, then you could upload the whole texture, and put it in a new category asking other users to modify it to make it useful (such as Category:Images to modify). Does that make sense? gboyers talk 02:48, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

That's a good spot, but a whole page is probably too much for 'HoBo' at this stage, because we don't actually know anything about it. It might not even be a garbage company - it could be the shop the dumpster belongs to, or the company that removes it, or a department of the council, or just a sticker that someone has put on it. I don't like having pages that are one-line articles ("Hobo is a garbage company in GTA V.") or just guesses. Once the game comes out, and we can read the whole poster/sticker, we will have more information and be able to make a page about it. For now, it's probably better to just mention it on one of the GTA V pages somewhere. Keep looking though! gboyers talk 03:11, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

1. No, I do not visit gta.wikia very often, unless I need to. Our wiki is much better, in my opinion. 2. No, there are no limits to articles on this wiki, but if we made 1,000,000 articles about every little thing, the problem would be that we are unable to look after all those pages, and we would end up having a lot of low-quality articles and a messy horrible wiki. I would much rather had a smaller number of high-quality well-organised articles. That is what makes Grand Theft Wiki different from gta.wikia. 3. Of course, GTA V is going to be awesome, I can't wait. 4. If you mean the 'see also' section at the bottom of articles (like here), I think it is quite lazy. Editors should add useful links all the way through the article, in the right places, rather than dumping them all in a "random other links" section at the bottom. If we do need a list of links, they should be correctly titled, like "SImilar vehicles" or "Related characters" etc - this is much more useful than a random list of links. Again, this is the sort of high-quality editing that makes GTW an awesome wiki. gboyers talk 03:24, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

In that case I suggest you ask User:A-Dust why he deleted it - it might have been a mistake or a misunderstanding. All the staff here are happy to explain their actions, and to be proved wrong! Whatever it takes to make a better wiki! gboyers talk 03:33, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Re:AA-12

In reply to AA-12

I deleted the page as it was an unused redirect and I did not believe it was being used by any users, in part because it was unused. Please feel free to re-create the redirect. A-Dust 17:26, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Re: Contribution numbers

Yes there are two Special Pages that do that. Special:CountEdits/Faizanali shows you your personal totals, whilst Special:ContributionScores shows approximated "scores" for total recents edits for each user, based on a few different things.

So for example, EditCount shows you have made 88 edits. ContributionScores shows that, over the past 7 days, you have made 44 edits to 36 pages, giving you a score of 42 (putting you 5th for this week).

However, I can't stress enough that neither an edit count or a contribution score is a measure of the quality of an editor, or even how much they contribute! Some users might make 1 tiny edit to hundreds of pages (such as fixing a spelling mistake), and score a lot higher than someone who writes 5 very good, very long pages from scratch!

On this wiki, we need all sorts of editors. We need people to write new content, people to fact-check information, people to tidy things up, people to organise everything, and people to be super-picky and fix all the little mistakes. Without all those different people, we wouldn't be good at all!

I'm a much bigger fan of quality over quantity, so for example when I'm trying to decide whether someone should become a trusted user or staff, I tend to look at Special:Contributions/Faizanali instead to see how often someone has edited, for how long, on what pages, and what their edits have been. To show they really understand the wiki, I need to see them not just editing the big popular pages - for example improving the old games, getting involved in Help pages, or even making Templates! Was there a specific reason you wanted to know? gboyers talk 19:50, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Re: Websites

Yes, having an image of the website on its page is definitely a good thing. Many Websites in GTA IV Era do have them. I personally wouldn't bother adding {{expand}} to the page, because unfortunately nobody really goes through Category:Expand looking for things to write about, and it just looks ugly having that on every page on the wiki (as EVERY page needs expanding)! If you're interested, just remember to come back to it! Or you can even add a Todo List to your user page to list the things you want to get done in the future! One thing I will disagree with - we are not trying to recreate the experience of playing a GTA game - you need to play it! I don't want this wiki to spoil the fun by having all the websites copied here in their entirety! I expect you would still want to have the fun of discovering them yourself. gboyers talk 21:27, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
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