tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post1467123636175398552..comments2023-05-28T02:18:32.755-07:00Comments on 50 Books: How Today's Internet Is Killing Our CultureTammyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16613804843380827691noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-12204409422982157732007-08-07T14:12:00.000-07:002007-08-07T14:12:00.000-07:00I'm a writer and a journalist, and I think the who...I'm a writer and a journalist, and I think the whole "blog review bad, newspaper review good" thing is ridiculous. Newspapers are reviewing fewer books these days because corporations are destroying them, cutting staff and news holes. Bloggers are reviewing books. A newspaper reviewer is subjective. Bloggers are subjective. <BR/><BR/>All reviews are a good thing, wherever they may be. Writers need to get out of the "professional" reviewer mode and think outside the box. Who better to review a book than a book blogger?Karen Olsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05867709664100997228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-9856430453680450212007-08-06T14:47:00.000-07:002007-08-06T14:47:00.000-07:00I've had to look up more words in the dictionary w...I've had to look up more words in the dictionary while reading this website than I ever have after reading a book review in a newspaper...so who's really contributing to a decline of culture and literacy?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-13286273280601990672007-08-03T18:05:00.000-07:002007-08-03T18:05:00.000-07:00Isn't this really a non-issue? Nothing to get upse...Isn't this really a non-issue? Nothing to get upset about at all? What is being fought over here is essentially book reviews. Who cares? Book reviews are glorified adverts. If bloggers are doing it, then <I>maybe</I> it will be less corporately motivated. Now, if blogs were competing with the likes of the <I>Periodical of Modern Languages Association</I> (<I>PMLA</I>) or other major critical journals, then that would truly be radical. Fighting over book reviews is nonsense, for either side. Keen's complaints are just labor pains. It's inevitable that blogs will take over: a) they're pervasive and b) they're free (most important of all).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-56023003532649931992007-08-03T13:03:00.000-07:002007-08-03T13:03:00.000-07:00If I was drinking milk, it would have come out of ...If I was drinking milk, it would have come out of my nose. That Goliath quote was hilarious. <BR/><BR/>There's always someone yelling about 'culture' re, "Think of the children!" <BR/><BR/>I love the title of the book: "The Cult of the Amateur." I must go stir the Kool-Aid.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07255026646819281620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-21091622557250702602007-08-03T05:15:00.000-07:002007-08-03T05:15:00.000-07:00I guess somewhere back in human history there was ...I guess somewhere back in human history there was a person who could argue that he was put out of work by the invention of the wheel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-58084863211543453992007-08-02T11:24:00.000-07:002007-08-02T11:24:00.000-07:00That David and Goliath quote is priceless. And the...That David and Goliath quote is priceless. And the best part is that Goliath wasn't just the bad guy in the story---he was actually a Philistine.<BR/><BR/>It's somewhat ironic that Keen accuses bloggers of not reading, since just about every criticism of lit blogging I've ever read suggests that the critic has never read a lit blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-29542841396741781862007-08-02T10:18:00.000-07:002007-08-02T10:18:00.000-07:00I will start this sentence again, we should have a...<I>I will start this sentence again, we should have a battle between plebs and people intelligent enough to use the internet/review things. I think it should be an ACTUAL battle. NOT JUST A BATTLE OF WORDS.</I><BR/><BR/>The plebs will win, hands down, because at least 2/3 of them will be yelling, "It's only a flesh wound!" and "What are you gonna do, bleed on me?", then bound back into the fray, thereby confusing The Educated Cultured Individuals Who Are The Only Ones Smart Enough To Review Anything And, Therefore, The Only Ones Smart Enough To Be On The Internet (they like very long titles - makes 'em feel special). The other third will dazzle them with their insistence on using embedded sappy midis and seizure-inducing animations.<BR/><BR/>Plus, we're scrappy.Carol Elainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06041453807217603422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-67063532690454868522007-08-02T09:59:00.000-07:002007-08-02T09:59:00.000-07:00Thanks for posting such insightful and well-though...Thanks for posting such insightful and well-thought-out post like this one. I've named you as a Rockin' Girl Blogger, dispite the shocking condition of your bookshelves. =)Petuniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14059145750315789676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-57872656354311070722007-08-02T09:08:00.000-07:002007-08-02T09:08:00.000-07:00because ALL the authors actually penning paper boo...because ALL the authors actually penning paper books are SUCH fine writers. I would be simply devastated if an upstart blogger unseated the likes of John Grisham, Danielle Steele, James Patterson, or RL Stine. The world would be so much more culturally empty. Truly.<BR/><BR/>I wouldn't be able to go on. <BR/><BR/>But since I don't read anyway, I guess I exaggerate.BabelBabehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00467487618830618571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-69856882353693559362007-08-02T04:56:00.000-07:002007-08-02T04:56:00.000-07:00Wouldn't it be cool if there was an INTERNET BATTL...Wouldn't it be cool if there was an INTERNET BATTLE over who gets to control it? On one side you have your plebs (because this is the SAME OLD ARGUMENT - the ordinary person doesn't Know Enough Of What I, The Educated Cultured Individual, Deems Relevant - just combined with insults about fat guys with beards and leaps tying it in to some global conspiracy between libertarians and counter-culturalists. This has gone on long enough, close bracket!) I will start this sentence again, we should have a battle between plebs and people intelligent enough to use the internet/review things. I think it should be an ACTUAL battle. NOT JUST A BATTLE OF WORDS. <BR/><BR/>It's just more from the same old intellectual elite who think people aren't listening to them any more and apparently are trying to get people to listen to them again by insulting them? Eh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-46263744569196294272007-08-01T21:28:00.000-07:002007-08-01T21:28:00.000-07:00Just yesterday I was trying to reel off the whole ...Just yesterday I was trying to reel off the whole "Gutenberg press" argument for why blogs/internet are not the end of the world and got tongue-tied. Will just refer them to this post instead.<BR/><BR/>Sure parts of the online world are a waste of space. But, whenever I hear doom and gloom stories about change I think of this quote:<BR/><BR/>"You know, at one time there must've been dozens of companies making buggy whips. And I'll bet the last company around was the one that made the best goddamn buggy whip you ever saw. Now how would you have liked to have been a stockholder in that company?" from Other People's Money (1991)<BR/><BR/>If a reviewer (or whatever) is not good enough to compete with the online world, get better or do something else.<BR/><BR/>Cheers, :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-76398783361591333572007-08-01T21:21:00.000-07:002007-08-01T21:21:00.000-07:00I've read the whole Internet twice.I'm still readi...<I>I've read the whole Internet twice.</I><BR/><BR/>I'm still reading it for the first time, and I'm only about two-thirds of the way through. Don't tell me how it ends!<BR/><BR/><I>I believe the German word you're looking for is "angst."</I><BR/><BR/>See? I knew it!<BR/><BR/><I>Maybe he was being sarcastic.</I><BR/><BR/>One can only hope.<BR/><BR/>And thanks for the tag, heidijane, though I'm a little nervous about whether I have any tips to offer. You may regret your decision when you see that my contribution is "Don't take any wooden nickels." (Badum-bum.)<BR/><BR/>And now I'm off to kill a little culture before bedtime.Tammyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16613804843380827691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-3887058253914696012007-08-01T21:20:00.000-07:002007-08-01T21:20:00.000-07:00I haven't read Dop's post, but when she read me th...I haven't read Dop's post, but when she read me that quote re "An intellectual Goliath...", at first I thought she was reading some smartass blogger's review, but than once she said it was from <A HREF="http://www.weeklystandard.com/" REL="nofollow">The Weekly Standard</A>, I realized that this was some of that self-satirizing rightwing stuff, and it all made sense.John Paolozzihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10205649316287173618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-72701569989973092912007-08-01T21:11:00.000-07:002007-08-01T21:11:00.000-07:00I think Jonathan Last was riffing on the title of ...I think Jonathan Last was riffing on the title of this book (http://www.amazon.com/Army-Davids-Technology-Ordinary-Government/dp/1595550542) by Glenn Reynolds who argues that technology can help the little guy beat out the Goliaths of big government and business...<BR/><BR/>I agree with you and all the comments so far: Keen's ideas seem absurd as does the marketing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-87341313008064617112007-08-01T19:50:00.000-07:002007-08-01T19:50:00.000-07:00Maybe he was being sarcastic.Maybe he was being sarcastic.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18131319455787674160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-23105164055473083812007-08-01T18:42:00.000-07:002007-08-01T18:42:00.000-07:00I deeply enjoyed reading your blog today. Very ast...I deeply enjoyed reading your blog today. Very astute but also humorous. And, it must be said, I think the internet is the only medium through which it could truly work.<BR/><BR/>Thank you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-48996659060168119662007-08-01T18:38:00.000-07:002007-08-01T18:38:00.000-07:00Oh for god's sake, I heard Keen on NPR and almost ...Oh for god's sake, I heard Keen on NPR and almost had a car accident because my eyes rolled so far back in my head. Love your David & Goliath point, meanwhile!Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15086033722247408723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-41834477895081246962007-08-01T16:07:00.000-07:002007-08-01T16:07:00.000-07:00Good Lord - if it wasn't so hilarious it would be ...Good Lord - if it wasn't so hilarious it would be frightening. Does he really say bloggers don't read?!?!?! Aren't we lit-bloggers scaring the poo out of the "real" reviewers (or was that last month's attack on bloggers and now they've moved onto something else?). Excuse me - I need to go slay some more culture....Wendyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14332796775305098552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-83906591395706880122007-08-01T15:35:00.000-07:002007-08-01T15:35:00.000-07:00I believe the German word you're looking for is "a...I believe the German word you're looking for is "angst."<BR/><BR/>See under handwringing, moist palms and Chicken Little Syndrome.<BR/><BR/>As a "professional journalist" I don't see the problem with losing stuffed shirt paper sniffers.<BR/><BR/>Of course, my particular flavor of journalism is partially to blame for the downfall of the printed word.<BR/><BR/>I'm a television photojournalist.<BR/><BR/>Although all of us photogs are shaking in our boots because of YouTube. Except that precious few seem to know how to edit. Or shoot for that matter.<BR/><BR/>But that doesn't mean there should be a Goliath to slay all the Davids posting videos of bad karaoke or what have you.<BR/><BR/>What a dillhole.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-44444273158667832922007-08-01T14:46:00.000-07:002007-08-01T14:46:00.000-07:00"I like how the quote is from the online editor."Y...<I>"I like how the quote is from the online editor."</I><BR/><BR/>Yes!<BR/><BR/>To be honest, there was a time when I felt (and still do to some extent) that just because someone can publish, doesn't mean he should. Right now, anything that gets people reading -- bloggers, book-related sites like Library Thing or Book Mooch -- is a good thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-15272839345009606262007-08-01T12:03:00.000-07:002007-08-01T12:03:00.000-07:00HEE!HEE!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-31388209584451516022007-08-01T11:57:00.000-07:002007-08-01T11:57:00.000-07:00I like how the quote is from the online editor.I like how the quote is from the online editor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-36183211366665982142007-08-01T11:38:00.000-07:002007-08-01T11:38:00.000-07:00Oh man, that is actually the most hilarious thing ...Oh man, that is actually the most hilarious thing I've read today. Asshat, indeed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-31351487268264745332007-08-01T11:37:00.000-07:002007-08-01T11:37:00.000-07:00This is just to let you know that I've tagged you ...This is just to let you know that I've tagged you for the <A HREF="http://adventuresinbookland.blogspot.com/2007/08/blogging-tips-meme.html" REL="nofollow">"Blogging Tips"</A> meme. Please don't feel obliged, but I think its quite useful really...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9931308.post-79651929440293905212007-08-01T11:12:00.000-07:002007-08-01T11:12:00.000-07:00"The world needs an intellectual Goliath to slay W..."The world needs an intellectual Goliath to slay Web 2.0's army of Davids."<BR/><BR/>I'm on the fence about the Internet destroying culture. I've read the whole Internet twice. There are definitely some culture-destroying moments.<BR/><BR/>However, I'd argue that what definitely <I>is</I> killing today's culture is a lack of cultural literacy. Like, knowing who both David <I>and</I> Goliath are.<BR/><BR/>Asshat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com
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