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Good afternoon, community members.

Due to the growth of the forum and growing complexity of managing problems, and in order to facilitate more consistent, timely, transparent and fair moderation, the administrators and moderators have been discussing a set of expanded rules and the usage of the built-in infraction system of the forum software to improve the t.m.o. experience.

Originally Posted by Flandry View Post
In response to several comments past and future: obviously these are guidelines and will not be enforced to the letter every moment of everyday. Not only is that not practical but it's not desirable as there will always be some judgement involved and the idea is to promote a constructive environment, not to make everyone move in lockstep (or goose-step as some like to claim any time a hint of order is maintained by "artificial" means).

The point is to clarify what is and isn't appropriate so that the proper response can be determined by any moderator, thus enabling a team of moderators to act more consistently and with less overhead (overhead which you don't see because it is mulled over in the moderator forum). For this, a more detailed policy is needed than has existed, and this is it.
The proposed draft of this policy follows, and is open to community discussion for a period of a week.

talk.maemo.org Rules

talk.maemo.org is not operated by Nokia and is a community forum, so be aware that posts and topics specifically addressed to Nokia may not be seen by Nokia. Such threads or posts are allowed, but are subject to closure or deletion at moderators' discretion. To directly comment, complain or suggest to Nokia, please visit the official Nokia forums: Nokia Europe, and Nokia USA.

talk.maemo.org has put the following rules in place for the message board to ensure enjoyment by all users. Our goal is to make sure these forums are a positive experience for everyone.

The establishment of these rules has been given much consideration by the talk.maemo.org staff, the Maemo Community Council, and feedback from long-time members, and is designed to foster and promote a healthy, helpful, and professional atmosphere in all of our forums. Anyone posting in the forums should be treated with respect and in a manner which will create an enjoyable experience for all.

Forum Rules

The following rules apply to any post, submission, or other type of communication a member makes in talk.maemo.org.
  • No Abuse, Insults or Personal Attacks
    Abuse, insults and personal attacks directed at any member, person, or group are unacceptable. If you disagree with someone on some point, please do not resort to name calling or personal attacks; instead, argue the merits of their points. Please note that attacking people you perceive to be "trolls", "fanbois" or "flame baiters" still counts as a personal attack, and your posts will be removed as such.
    • Trolling example: "Just sell your N900 and get an iPhone 4!"
    • Flaming example: "Members with nothing to say should just shut up and leave this forum!"
    • Personal attack example: "You are an idiot."
    If you have trouble refraining from taking "bait", consider making use of the built-in ignore list functionality.
  • No Foul Language
    The use of foul language is considered to be unacceptable. Filters have been added to censor offensive words. Members must not bypass the filters or swear in a different language.
  • No Trolling
    A post that is solely intended to incite controversy or conflict, or cause annoyance or offense is considered "trolling". These posts will only lead to personal attacks and emotional outbursts from other members, which results in an unhealthy atmosphere.
  • No Inappropriate or Illegal Material
    Do not post or add in your signature anything vulgar, inflammatory, pornographic, illegal, etc. Political and religious topics are considered inappropriate as well. Attaching, posting links to, or otherwise promoting pirated or illegal software is contrary to the purposes of the community and its forum
  • No Business Advertising
    Creating threads, posts, or signatures that serve solely to promote your business (whatever that may be, personal blogs excluded) is not allowed. Maemo-specific services, products and software are allowed one active thread per major product, which is subject to the same rules that apply to other threads. Referral links and viral marketing are not allowed.
  • No Cross-posting
    talk.maemo.org is divided into subforums by topic. Post into an existing thread on a subject (using the power search to find it), and when creating a new thread for a new subject, place it in the appropriate subforum. Posting the same comments more than once in a thread, or in more than one thread, is considered cross-posting, and is not appropriate. Please choose the single thread and forum in which your comments would be the most relevant, and post them in that thread only.
  • No Spamming
    Threads that are not related to the forum's description, posts that are not related to the discussion, or posts made with the intention of bringing the user's post count up will be considered to be spam. An edit function is provided by the forum software and should be used to minimize multiple sequential posts.
  • Respect Forum Moderators, Administrators and Members
    If you have any problems with any of the staff, please PM or email the Administrator(s). Attacking any forum staff will be considered as violating the "No abuse, insults or personal attacks" rule. talk.maemo.org is a gathering place for people of many ideas but a common goal (the use, development of, and promotion of Maemo-related devices and software) and disagreement with ideas is not an excuse to be disagreeable towards other community members.

Moderation

Although the administrators and moderators of talk.maemo.org will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither talk.maemo.org, maemo.org, nor Nokia will be held responsible for the content of any message.

If you have a problem or have caught someone you feel is in direct violation of these rules of talk.maemo.org, please contact an administrator or moderator with full details. The best way to contact a moderator to report a post is to click the on the "Report This" link that is found at the top of every post on these forums.

The staff of talk.maemo.org reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason. Posting material already removed previously by a moderator, or creating new threads or posts with the purpose of inquiring about deleted content, is inappropriate.

Signatures
  • Signatures should only be in small or normal fonts (size 1 or 2).
  • Singatures may only contain up to five lines of text (measured from a 1280 pixel width screen).
  • Links in signature are allowed but you may not link to warez, porn, racist or other similar hate sites.

Avatars
  • Avatars should follow the maximum avatar dimensions of the forum
  • Avatars are subject to the same conditions as forum rules with respect to decency and so forth.

Infractions and Banning

talk.maemo.org runs an infraction system that lets moderators and administrators give infractions to misbehaving members. Infractions are represented in points -- more severe infractions equal more infraction points.

Infraction points accumulate / stack-up as well as expire. Misbehaving members accumulate infraction points and, depending on the total number the member has accumulated in a month, he/she can be banned for 1, 3, 7 or 30 days, or even forever. If a member is not permanently banned, infraction points expire within 30 days -- a member with 10 infraction points will be clean of infractions if he/she behaves for a month.

Infraction points will be given for misbehavior in public forum communications as well as for attacking other members in any other way within maemo.org, if it is reported. The following are the assigned infraction points for specific violations:
  • Signature Rule Violation - 5
  • Avatar Violation - 5
  • Cross-posting - 5
  • Inappropriate Language - 10
  • Bypassing censored words - 10
  • Inappropriate Material - 10
  • Advertising/Referral Links - 10
  • Flaming/Trolling - 15
  • Bullying New Members - 15
  • Personal Attack - 20
  • Illegal Activity/Content - 20
  • Spam Advertisements - 20
  • Spam Post - 20
  • Creating additional accounts with the intention of avoiding existing infraction penalties - 20
  • SpamBot - 100

The following are the penalties given based on accumulated infraction points:
  • 3 infractions not totaling 30 points - 1-day ban
  • 30 points - 3-day suspension
  • 40 points - 7-day suspension
  • 50 points - 30-day suspension
  • 100 points - Permanent Ban

If a member who has accumulated infraction points is proved to be posting on a second account (via IP address), the account with a higher number of posts will get the additional infraction, and the newer account will be banned permanently.

In certain situations, if a member is clearly not cooperating with the forum rules, the member as well as his/her IP address(es) will be banned permanently from the forum.

maemo.org Terms of Use / Privacy Policy

Along with these rules, members should agree to and follow maemo.org's Terms of Use and Privacy Policy.

Addenda

talk.maemo.org reserves the right to update and modify these rules as the needs of the community dictate to ensure the smooth operation of this community.
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Trolling example: "Just sell your N900 and get an iPhone 4!"
That could be read as being considerate and helpful depending on what post it was responding to.
 

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Just out of curiosity, am I reading this the right way if I get the impression that bible quotes and creationistic agenda pieces in signatures are to be seen as inappropriate?
 
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What is, or where can I find the definition of, "Bypassing censored words?"
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Originally Posted by Flandry View Post
maemo.org Terms of Use / Privacy Policy

Along with these rules, members should agree to and follow maemo.org's Terms of Use and Privacy Policy.
Shouldn't the Terms of Use/Privacy Policy be updated?

As currently written, they give people the false impression that this is a Nokia run site:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=199

And there are Contribution Guidelines under Legal that should also be referenced.
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Originally Posted by Joorin View Post
Just out of curiosity, am I reading this the right way if I get the impression that bible quotes and creationistic agenda pieces in signatures are to be seen as inappropriate?
I don't think there are bible quotes that are racist or hateful.

Originally Posted by daperl View Post
What is, or where can I find the definition of, "Bypassing censored words?"
It's when you post something and it appears as '****' and then you re-edit it and become creative like putting d-a-s-h-e-s so it bypasses the censoring system.

Originally Posted by SD69 View Post
Shouldn't the Terms of Use/Privacy Policy be updated?
I agree, it should be updated. But since TMO is under maemo.org, it should follow its terms.
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Originally Posted by imperiallight View Post
That could be read as being considerate and helpful depending on what post it was responding to.
I took that as more if someone is critcizing the N900 that, the sell X to buy Y is not an appropriate response. Of course all moderations will have to be done via context.

And from my experiences (on both sides of the coin) IP banning is pointless. There are so many ways to get around it, so unless there's a system that requires new posters to wait a week. Or maybe have their first ten posts manually approved the only thing that will happen is new accounts being made over and over.
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
And from my experiences (on both sides of the coin) IP banning is pointless. There are so many ways to get around it, so unless there's a system that requires new posters to wait a week. Or maybe have their first ten posts manually approved the only thing that will happen is new accounts being made over and over.
Yes, it can be quite challenging. You don't want to get permanently banned however since your IP(s) go to a central spammer database that thousands of other forums use. And of course, there is also the 'Creating multiple accounts' infraction.
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Can we have a rule to prevent power posting?
ie a post with just a smiley just to get the post count up
 
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Originally Posted by Reggie View Post
I don't think there are bible quotes that are racist or hateful.
Quoted from original post:
Political and religious topics are considered inappropriate as well.
And I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not since there are lots of racist and hateful parts in the bible.
 

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