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HiEdit

Please rename me to 'Frozen Wind'. The form to rename a user is at Special:RenameUser. I-20the highway 01:59, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Account Creation ImprovementEdit

Hello - have a look here, where we've added the contents of a pl.wikipedia page which contcontains our ideas and sugegstions. Wpedzich (talk) 21:50, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Make a test edit in the sandboxEdit

Look at this interactive tutorial ;) Write something, save, and follow the green arrow. Przykuta (talk) 22:53, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

For your informationEdit

You'll need to have a look at everything that "has been removed from public view" to get a full picture. Please remember to drop me a line stating that all has your full approval. You might not want to upset one of your more dedicated volunteers. On the other end it might be time to remove that line "Outreach Wiki needs you." It sounds so out of place. Have fun. Virgilio A. P. Machado Vapmachado (talk) 04:15, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello,
Thanks for your input. I have looked this situation over, and while I do not control this wiki any more than anyone else, I can tell you what my experience is in these kinds of situations: after more than ten years, Wikipedia and its sister projects have developed such a complex universe of opinions and policies that no-one can really be said to follow every guideline at any point. One editor may focus more on quality, and another on users' feelings. No-one, and both, are right. But since we need to co-exist here, we should each of us, take pains in understand the other one before we make drastic decisions. And I think that Sue concurs with me.
Let me rephrase it a little bit for clarity's sake: the first years Wikipedia existed, the goal was simply to have articles on every subject and people tried to get as many edits as they could. Then another phase came along, where most everybody was concerned with quality: they added more and more sources, and tried to get more scientists to contribute. Around 2009, the third phase started to grow, but it wasn't until 2011 that it has really come into full effect, and it is still not the dominant way of thinking, namely that we should focus on the users. After all, it's the users that create the content. We are right now in the process of trying to get more women to contribute to Wikipedia and its sister projects, for instance, At the same time, there are users who have been present since the beginning, and we shouldn't ignore their needs and wants either. And the compromise here is very difficult - for everybody. Not just for the newcomers who come into a culture that is well-established and complex and yes, a little rough sometimes, but for the veterans, who have seen every attempt at change Wikipedia before, and who have had good results with their present methods. Sue (and I) represent those who have looked at the developments here, and try to see how Wikipedia should (and need to) evolve in the upcoming years.
In conclusion, now that Mono has restored your user page and explained his/her reason for removing it in the first place, I trust that the situation has resolved itself, and that we all can get back to being productive both here and on other Wikimedia projects. Good luck//Hannibal (talk) 08:55, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Renaming request - கலை to KalaiarasyEdit

I already requested for renaming here and as I haven't received any reply, I request you to kindly do the necessary. I'm living in Norway. Mainly, I'm a Tamil wiki contributor and I created the account with a username in Tamil. I did do a few edits in en.wiki and no.wiki too. I had problem in using the Soxred tool 'cos of this Tamil name. Besides, I felt that it would be nice to have my username in English (that everyone can read), and thus asked for renaming in ta.wiki. My username was then changed to Kalaiarasy (that is my first name) in ta.wiki. My username is not changed in all other wikis. As all other accounts except ta.wiki is still in my old name, there is a confusion, it seemed. The edits that I make with the new username is not being updated in the list of 'My contributions' or in the list of 'Pages created by me'. Therefore, please kindly rename my previous username 'கலை' with my new username Kalaiarasy in all wikis as soon as possible. Thanks in advance.--கலை (talk) 00:14, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

ThanksEdit

Thanks Hannibal for renaming. --Kalaiarasy (talk) 14:30, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

No problem.//Hannibal (talk) 14:48, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Question from IP adressEdit

SPce preparation

1) what precautions are to be taken to have space tour for our hydrocarbofroil stuffibody? 2) How this body face the low space gravity at high in space? 3) How diets are to be control on this space tour? 4) HOW THE SYNOFOIL FACE THE LOW GRAVITY? 5) which biotechnological preparations have to take? 6) HOw rhythemof synobact partical are to be taken? 7) how dose the protonfolio have to be proce. in prtone sphere? 8) SPace tour up to how much distance possible? 9) For future can we have the option for such high profile by passed by biotechnological experts ? heartly thanks to the mem. who toured last.we remem. their appearance their.thnKING U! HHp

Hello,
This is not a website where you can ask questions about space. Please direct your questions to for instance NASA.//Hannibal (talk) 12:04, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!Edit

Thank you for your kind comment.
--HaythamAbulela 18:04, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

My pleasure. Your materials seem really exciting and I hope you continue translating and improving the Bookshelf materials.//Hannibal (talk) 14:29, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

User page designEdit

I have something up at User:Fetchcomms/draft/u, feel free to leave comments and such :). I'm not sure when/if I will have time for another IRC chat tomorrow, but I may be free around 20:00 UTC (but that's rather late for you) or possibly a couple of hours before that. If I am free, I will just idle on IRC so you can check for me at #wikimedia-outreach whenever you have time. If tomorrow does not work for you, I will have to see about Sunday, but it will likely be around the same times (evening to night UTC). Cheers, Fetchcomms (talk) 03:36, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

wm2011:Submissions/Best practices in mentoring programsEdit

Hello Lennart, did you see this session? We'd love to see you there and unfortunately the slot about "Encouraging Participation" is separated from it. Also, would you manage to get some info about the sv.wiki mentoring program (AFAIK w:sv:Wikipedia:Faddrar) and tell us in the session or when you can? Nemo 22:15, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Sounds interesting. I'll try to be there. And you should get Frank Schulenburg to talk as well. He has some very cool stats about the WP:PPI. About the mentoring program, I'll see if I can gather some facts about it, or more likely, get somebody else from Sweden to talk about it :-) I see you in a couple of days.//Hannibal (talk) 22:28, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Great, thank you! See you soon, Nemo 08:38, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

ACIP on enwpEdit

Hi. 501 users on enwp have created a new userpage with the exact same content. See here I mentioned this to a checkuser who said it may be in the template. Could you or someone familar with the new user registration process confirm whether the template adds the bolded text (in the search) to the userpage? If not, it may indicate a bot registration.--TParis (talk) 16:57, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

This is text from the template, or rather, it is from a JavaScript that we use to make it easier for new users to make the first edit. It is not a bot, but new users being lazy/ignorant/having problems. You can check out the edit where I put in that information here. I hadn't searched for the number of people who have just clicked save without changing the text, so thanks for doing it for me. 501 of all the new accounts isn't that many. And they should be easy to cross-reference to see how many have actually started to edit. If they haven't, we should ask them to do that. Thanks for your help and your question.//Hannibal (talk) 17:11, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
Is it possible to add into the software that if the default text is not removed that it gets removed by the software and comes up blank?--TParis (talk) 20:18, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
Apparently there is. That is not the only technical improvement we should make, though. I have written about it here.//Hannibal (talk) 21:50, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
Sort of related - here is some feedback on the ACIP from a new users who found is frustrating that it asked them to add content about themselves and then the page was CSDd as G11. [1]].--TParis (talk) 15:39, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
Yes, that's really unfortunale, but it's always a hard line to draw between presenting yourself in an acceptable way and promoting youself. I doubt that anything we put in the instructions will take care of this problem completely, but I am all for trying out anything that will make it easier for newcomers. Do you have any suggestions on how to do that?//Hannibal (talk) 12:16, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
I'd suggest a message with perhaps a faint yellow background to draw attention that gives an example of the difference between spam and an acceptable userpage. For example:
Unacceptable Userpage:
Freddy Johnson is a musician and the drummer in the band My Awesome Band. He has mad skills and wants to rock the nation.


Acceptable Userpage:
My name is Freddy Johnson and I have an interest in music and particularly percussian.
What do you think?--TParis (talk) 02:46, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay. I think that showing people what is correct and what is wrong is a good idea. However, we could do it with some nice images that have even more faint yellow background, or designed to look instructive (rather than warning, warning). We could for instance ask Fetchcomms to draw up some designs here. But generally, yes, why not? By the way, have you seen the discussions on my enwp talk page? Things are moving forward.//Hannibal (talk) 15:02, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

ACIP on the English WikipediaEdit

Hi, I've been pointed to you as somebody familiar with ACIP, nobody in #wikimedia-outreach or in other channels seems to know much about it. I have three questions:

  • Where are the users that create their accounts thru the ACIP coming from? Why are they landing there instead of the normal account create procedure?
  • How are we supposed to deal with these users? Let's say one has an inappropriate username (role account), can we treat them like normal users or do we have to exercise special care?
  • I've tried to create an account myself thru [2] but I can't seem to make it work. I can create the user fine [3] but never get to stage 2 and 3 nor the template gets put on my userpage.

Thanks in advance, Snowolf (talk) 22:07, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

An important message about renaming usersEdit

Dear Hannibal,

I am cross-posting this message to many places to make sure everyone who is a Wikimedia Foundation project bureaucrat receives a copy. If you are a bureaucrat on more than one wiki, you will receive this message on each wiki where you are a bureaucrat.

As you may have seen, work to perform the Wikimedia cluster-wide single-user login finalisation (SUL finalisation) is taking place. This may potentially effect your work as a local bureaucrat, so please read this message carefully.

Why is this happening? As currently stated at the global rename policy, a global account is a name linked to a single user across all Wikimedia wikis, with local accounts unified into a global collection. Previously, the only way to rename a unified user was to individually rename every local account. This was an extremely difficult and time-consuming task, both for stewards and for the users who had to initiate discussions with local bureaucrats (who perform local renames to date) on every wiki with available bureaucrats. The process took a very long time, since it's difficult to coordinate crosswiki renames among the projects and bureaucrats involved in individual projects.

The SUL finalisation will be taking place in stages, and one of the first stages will be to turn off Special:RenameUser locally. This needs to be done as soon as possible, on advice and input from Stewards and engineers for the project, so that no more accounts that are unified globally are broken by a local rename to usurp the global account name. Once this is done, the process of global name unification can begin. The date that has been chosen to turn off local renaming and shift over to entirely global renaming is 15 September 2014, or three weeks time from now. In place of local renames is a new tool, hosted on Meta, that allows for global renames on all wikis where the name is not registered will be deployed.

Your help is greatly needed during this process and going forward in the future if, as a bureaucrat, renaming users is something that you do or have an interest in participating in. The Wikimedia Stewards have set up, and are in charge of, a new community usergroup on Meta in order to share knowledge and work together on renaming accounts globally, called Global renamers. Stewards are in the process of creating documentation to help global renamers to get used to and learn more about global accounts and tools and Meta in general as well as the application format. As transparency is a valuable thing in our movement, the Stewards would like to have at least a brief public application period. If you are an experienced renamer as a local bureaucrat, the process of becoming a part of this group could take as little as 24 hours to complete. You, as a bureaucrat, should be able to apply for the global renamer right on Meta by the requests for global permissions page on 1 September, a week from now.

In the meantime please update your local page where users request renames to reflect this move to global renaming, and if there is a rename request and the user has edited more than one wiki with the name, please send them to the request page for a global rename.

Stewards greatly appreciate the trust local communities have in you and want to make this transition as easy as possible so that the two groups can start working together to ensure everyone has a unique login identity across Wikimedia projects. Completing this project will allow for long-desired universal tools like a global watchlist, global notifications and many, many more features to make work easier.

If you have any questions, comments or concerns about the SUL finalisation, read over the Help:Unified login page on Meta and leave a note on the talk page there, or on the talk page for global renamers. You can also contact me on my talk page on meta if you would like. I'm working as a bridge between Wikimedia Foundation Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Stewards, and you to assure that SUL finalisation goes as smoothly as possible; this is a community-driven process and I encourage you to work with the Stewards for our communities.

Thank you for your time. -- Keegan (WMF) talk 18:24, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

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