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Posted on Mon, Oct 01, 2012 10:13 AM

worldmind...

If you want to email me so I can respond off the blogs I'd be glad to do so, but I think responding here will just add more fuel to a fire that should have been put out long ago. Much better done this way.



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Posted on Mon, Oct 01, 2012 10:09 AM

I have not been following any argument on the blogs so not sure what happened. However, I thought the protocol with mm was to give people a warning first. Not sure if that happened.

Voyager is an active member of blogland and it would be a shame to loose one of our popular bloggers.

Surely this can be sorted privately with an apology and then just we all just move on?

Fingers crossed Voyager returns soon.

Sarah :-)



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Posted on Mon, Oct 01, 2012 12:48 AM

...one more thing..how is this person who is left supposing to have a fully pleasent bloglife here when so many are upset? I suggest the following: the person who is still here contacts MM..tells them to be willing to compromise..that Voyager54 should come back but he needs to apologize for whatever caused this or they need to apologize to eachother..the two can privately solve this peacefully and both can restart from fresh..that would restore respect for both plus..warningsystem..meaning..red card is next...then they blogged happily ever after :-)



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Posted on Mon, Oct 01, 2012 12:36 AM

Windrider..ONE comment? what was it?  I did see Voyager54 blog and I read something about someone should not think they are greater than others and something about being a christian or so..thus i have mentioned to leave Jesus out of the equation etc..but..I just cant recall anything which could not be dealt with more civilized...so I assumed there must be some other superserious stuff..so what did Voyager54 say that made the other soooo furious? Anyway..doesnt MM have a warningsystem just like in sports...like strike system..one two yellow three red out? I think thats a solution...



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Posted on Mon, Oct 01, 2012 12:32 AM

fshyme...

The reason you were typing in green was because you copied and pasted the message that person sent to me. If you want to change it...highlight the first word you want to change color with...go to the left hand top of the message area and look for the capitol A. If you hover your browser over that, it will say. 'select font color'. Click on the arrow on the right side of the A and the color pallet will drop down. Click on the color you want and then on your highlighted word. That should change the color of your text back to what you want it to be.



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Posted on Mon, Oct 01, 2012 12:00 AM

worldmind...

No nude pictures. The only thing he did was post a comment on one of that person's blogs that the author didn't like. If you had seen V's last blog, you would have seen the mask drop from the accuser's face and their real personality show through. If MM decided to ban one, they should have banned the other, too. The return comments on V's blog were much worse than what he had posted. They (MM) could have handled it differently, in my opinion, in a way that would have been fair to both parties.



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Posted on Sun, Sep 30, 2012 11:04 PM

When I read comments like    Debate is geared to discuss issues NOT attack the author. This NON paying subscriber and yourself as a NON paying subscriber should not be able to post comments on a site with paying members.

 

And what windrider posted [eek,I'm typing green now] it makes me wonder if the paying member was just a poor lad who just got money and was no longer poor.Class is class weather you've got money or not.Would be really lonley for him if there was a PAYING  subscriber only blog.[I don't want to type in classless green,how do I stop it]


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Posted on Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:38 PM

...one thing is striking though..that Voyager54 had over 800(!) blog entries meaning he survived this without such problems and suddenly he is removed just for what..did he like post nude pics of the other member and tried to blackmail or what exactly happened?



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Posted on Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:33 PM

Francie offcourse...no one should be treated differently because of such things..and offcourse not because of money status...as some people are born with a silverspoon like a royalty then others built their own empire from zero like Onassis..so that cant be measurement of a humans value...



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Posted on Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:22 PM

 

 

Worldmind                     



If only the members of payment Should Have the opportunity to comment on a blog in MM, I hope the perfect and untouchable and omnipotent supreme gentlemen, not begins to belittle to Latinos or of another race or culture ....... . (If they treat their own people as well, That we can expect  that foreigners).

 

Francie.-



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Posted on Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:20 PM

Oh Windrider I just read what you wrote...interesting..I did not receive such kind of harrassing message..OH Im a recommended upfront paid goldmember maybe thats why...payer or not...we all look at the same stars at night..



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Posted on Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:08 PM

Diana3316.thanks for clearing that up..I know a bit about tjat part...but..what is the core problem..why did that person become upset with Voyager54? Reason?



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Posted on Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:03 PM

Francie..im not sure I got that completely but whomever think that paying is the only king i find sad...MM-owners decided the order of which and by whom comments are allowed..this is MM-house and they are fine with nonpayers commenting (if I got that right) so..if someone thinks a person need to pay to be able to exist here then might I suggest to leave this site and start their own with payers allover their place...This cant be a matter about some dollars...not on a millionairesite...this is about ways of conduct. Mutual respect to all and freedom of speech.



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Posted on Sun, Sep 30, 2012 09:51 PM

Easymantolove...you mean true GENTLEmen offcourse ;-)



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Posted on Sun, Sep 30, 2012 09:48 PM

Hoping, I do think the right of free speech is major, but, not on the bigger cost of another human beings other rights and integrity. Different people react differently to different things, thats why it is better to not even take a risk at a jab that might result in someones heartinjury. Discussing things in a civil manner and if disliking then handle it with class. I still do not know what exactly happened but I do sense that it seems to be unfair. I hope Voyager54 can be given a second chance, as we all make mistakes and second chances are part of the human right...and that his opponent takes the amazing christian chance of "forgiving thy enemy".



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Posted on Sun, Sep 30, 2012 09:42 PM

Today I received an e-Meil, a member of MM (this person was paid memberships in 2005), this member is not currently paying. This member sent an e-meil  the person That sent eliminate  of MM to Voyager, and this is what I received in response: 


"Debate is geared to discuss issues NOT attack the author. This NON paying subscriber and yourself as a NON paying subscriber should not be able to post comments on a site with paying members. 


I wonder if you are not a paying member,  you are not Entitled to an opinion, comment, discuss, guide, learning In These Blog! 



Someone Should Tell him if that's his conviction, maybe Should I purchase the site and run it like a third-world, dictatorship, which i think he would enjoy immensely" 


I am impressed with this " DISCRIMINATION" 

Francie 

 




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Posted on Sun, Sep 30, 2012 07:56 PM

HI WORLDMIND...

 

Thanks for the blog! As an experienced blogger I will state, personal attacks do occur from time to time... but this is where growth and development happens if one allows themselves to learn from the experience. I find it hard to believe this has escalated this far. This is an adult site and individuals should conduct themselves as adults and not go "crying to mommy." 

 

None of us is perfect by any means... BUT, at the end of the day, if we must run to site monitors because someone hurt our feelings... perhaps we are not mature enough to be on an adult blog anyway... JMHO (Just My Humble Opinion) 

 

I do not believe in censorship of this type and regardless of any differences between V and I.. I am thankful we all have the freedom to express our thoughts! If MM were an American based company, they would have told the complainant..... "Tough cookies, grow some skin, here's a Kleenex, now stop your whining!" LOL.. ;)

 

I have concerns now that anyone can complain about someone and **POOF! REMOVED!! 

 

Just doesn't seem right.. 



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Posted on Sun, Sep 30, 2012 02:46 PM

Last night, there were two blogs from Voyager.  On one of the blogs, texasneuro admitted that he had complained to MM and asked for Voyager to be removed from the site.  Apparently MM saw fit to take sides.....and remove Voyager! 

 

 



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Posted on Sun, Sep 30, 2012 12:56 PM

Sndray... Well stated, and you're 100% correct. We all look at the world through different eyes. Blogs give us a great opportunity to exchange views, ideas, and stories to give each other a broader understanding of our world, cultures and concepts. I'm impressed with the content of most of these blogs, and the reasoning behind other's methods of relating to life. It helps me to grow as a person and not be so quick to judge what I see and hear. We're adults, and should be able to handle a few barbs when they're thrown without allowing that discord to take over control of our actions.


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Posted on Sun, Sep 30, 2012 12:24 PM

I am new to MM.  Bloggers like V made this site more interesting. He is a good man. I thought it was just a normal disagreement bet/ two bloggers. Yes, people have different opinions and values based on different culture/ backgrounds they are coming from. Some of those belief/values need to be revisited/re-examined. You state your opinion with supporting arguments. If someone points out weakness in your argument, you re-examine your opinion/belief. If not, we all are blind in this darkness. 

Some of these arguments, on the other hand, should be taken lightly. This is not a threat to your integrity, or your life for pete sake.  

 

Correct me if i'm wrong. 



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