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"We've removed your post because it was made in a very old topic. We tend to discourage this practice since it can create disjointed and outdated information. If you want to discuss the topic or have a related question, feel free to start a new thread (and link to the old one)!"

this was my comment:

"You have come to the right place. This community has been invaluable in helping me through a past similar scenario.Just remember that they expect you to be the expert. It doesn't mean you have to know everything just that you know where to find the solution and will do due diligence in fitting the right solution to the problem.Learn to manage your customers because you will be busy. Prioritize the things that must be done. Be able to communicate what those are and why they are important so that the persons you support do not take you for granted... especially the persons you answer to.If you cannot get what needs to be done then communicate why you need further help and present a solution that fits the situation.Sounds like a golden opportunity to stretch and grow. Also keep track of your progress so that you can quantify what you do and the projects you implement not only for your current employee but possible future ones."

It was a comment on a relevant topic that many others are going to wonder about. Persons that are not yet a part of Spiceworks. I didn't have a question and I didn't really want to discuss the topic but I wanted to add my 2 cents for the help of others that may find themselves in this situation. I did check the date before I posted and I am careful not to post to very old posts. I see this happening in other communities and it is very frustrating. Moderators getting overly aggressive in terminating useful threads and deleting comments.It discourages people from commenting and hinders much good discussion on topics that are timeless.I am often surprised at how many search engines get me to threads that are relevant but some moderator has shut down because they are GOD. I've even seen moderators shut down threads because they didn't agree with the question because of there own personal view of a topic like how a RAID should be implemented. There are many relevant variations of views on this topic and the conversation is very educational. 

How's this for a new thread? Moderators closing and deleting relevant threads.﻿ 

I still love you guys but I had to say something.I am sure many are going to hammer me for this, but I think there may be some who agree.


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Which of the following retains the information it's storing when the system power is turned off?
  • ROM
  • CPU
  • RAM
  • GPU
88% of IT pros got this right.

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jessevas
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Did you ask the moderator what was up?  I've had not too recent issues with a certain moderator who seemed to keep deleting my posts.  Turns out, he's responding to people reporting my posts, for whatever reason(s).  Some I can agree with, some I don't.  But in the end, the next couple of times, the moderator and I were able to communicate better as to why something was deleted.

Also, is no use following the moderators.  They never go home.

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David Wiese
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This very much depends on HOW old the thread was that you were replying to. If it was over a year, I would suggest creating  new thread and referencing the old one.

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Kellanved
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netaficionado wrote:

How's this for a new thread? Moderators closing and deleting relevant threads.﻿ 

I still love you guys but I had to say something.I am sure many are going to hammer me for this, but I think there may be some who agree.

 Not the first topic on mods, won't be the last. ﻿You posted in a topic from August of last year. 7 months is a bit long on trying to keep a topic alive.

The OP was also dated June, so that adds 2 more months to the timeline from when they were last seen.

*For the record, I wasn't the one who deleted it*

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netaficionado
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Nothing personal, but I dare say it depends on the topic. Those older threads are the ones coming up at the top of google much of the time. So unless its really off topic I say leave it. What would it hurt? 

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Bryce Katz
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Moderator's Note:

Threadcromancy (that is, the resurrection of old topics by commenting in them) is iffy. The official guideline as I understand it is this:

If the comment is relevant to the main topic of the old thread, it stays. If it's irrelevant/flippant/snarky without adding actual value, or a +﻿1 post, it goes. 

Problem is, that leaves a lot of room for subjectivity. 

Generally speaking, if one has an issue with a moderation activity:

  • PM the moderator who made the action. Their name is in the PM you receive about it. We're generally pretty good about responding as long as you're polite about it.
  • Reach out the community management staff. Sean (Spiceworks) is the head of the CM staff, but you can also send an email to the address in the action notification PM. The specifics of this escape me at the moment. 

﻿Edit:﻿ Forgot to mention: We do, as a matter of policy, discourage community members from posting in old topics ﻿at all﻿. The above guideline is for times when someone fails to notice the age of a given topic.

Edited Mar 2, 2016 at 21:21 UTC
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netaficionado
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I did send an email, but it just made me think of other forums where I have seen these things happen after I wasted my time reading the thread only to have it rudely (at times) shut down. I only said something here because I really do love this place.

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Kellanved
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netaficionado wrote:

Nothing personal, but I dare say it depends on the topic. Those older threads are the ones coming up at the top of google much of the time. So unless its really off topic I say leave it. What would it hurt? 

Oh if you could see the behind-the-scenes arguments on this topic.... I'm in the minority on them, so I can't tell you. I think you might have okay in that topic, but again, I usually tend to be wrong for some reason. I'd email the mod who deleted it or email the Community Managers. They're great, and they'll have the final say.

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ProfessorNerdly
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The other question is, how many times was the same thing you wrote talked about previously in the thread? Is there really any reason to resurrect a thread just to say "This is good information"? That is what I see in what you copied to us. It was just a "hey, yeah, this is good advice" What does that add to a 7 month old conversation?

I don't mean to pile on, just offering a different perspective.

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Snufykat
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Let old posts die.

Unless you are solving an issue that was not solved in the original thread then let the thread go.

If an old necro thread starts coming to the top of the social hub page then we all get to waste our time reading a 7 month old post as well.

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Grey
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GreyRose LLC is an IT service provider.

Woot! I get to use this graphic again!


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Bryce Katz
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netaficionado wrote:

I am often surprised at how many search engines get me to threads that are relevant but some moderator has shut down because they are GOD.

I think it's safe to say that, in the length of time I've been ﻿volunteering﻿ as a moderator here, none of the moderators I've interacted with think they're some sort of incarnate deity. However, we do our fallible, mortal best enforce community rules as set forth by the CM staff. 

You'd probably be surprised by the amount of discussion that goes into many moderation activities before someone pulls the trigger. Do we make mistakes? Yep. We own them, too. Thing is, we actually don't have the ability to undo much of what we can do. Post/thread restoration is a CM-only permission, for example. 

Again: If you have an issue with a given moderation action or with what you perceive to be consistent issues with a specific moderator, it's probably best to take up the issue through proper channels rather than airing your dirty knickers in public. #justsayin

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Bryce Katz
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netaficionado wrote:

I've even seen moderators shut down threads because they didn't agree with the question because of there own personal view of a topic like how a RAID should be implemented. 

Here, or "elsewhere"? You do rather move off topic slightly as your post continues. See previous posts re: taking up issues via channels. 

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Son of Jor-El
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Bryce Katz wrote:

netaficionado wrote:

I am often surprised at how many search engines get me to threads that are relevant but some moderator has shut down because they are GOD.

I think it's safe to say that, in the length of time I've been ﻿volunteering﻿ as a moderator here, none of the moderators I've interacted with think they're some sort of incarnate deity. 


I've encountered one.
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netaficionado
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ProfessorNerdly wrote:

The other question is, how many times was the same thing you wrote talked about previously in the thread? Is there really any reason to resurrect a thread just to say "This is good information"? That is what I see in what you copied to us. It was just a "hey, yeah, this is good advice" What does that add to a 7 month old conversation?

I don't mean to pile on, just offering a different perspective.

Not really. It also lets people know there are others out there and gives them someone to PM if they like. Your perspective like everyone else contains some relevance. It might speak to a different audience at the very least. I obviously felt it was a relevant enough topic to POST on even though I knew it was from 2015.

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WealthyEmu
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I used to have posts deleted from time to time. Just complain to the SW agent to at least get a better idea why it was deleted. In this case, you know exactly why even though you didn't technically do anything wrong. You just were the victim of an overzealous SW agent, that's all. Maybe you don't like it (trust me, I don't like being censored either, for any reason), but eh, what're you gonna do?

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Alequaff
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If its an old thread, you should really start a new one... as the message says by reviving an old thread it could create outdated disjointed information... mainly due to technology and software changing constantly. 

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netaficionado
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Grey wrote:

Woot! I get to use this graphic again!


lol

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Jimmy T.
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Not a moderator myself, but I can understand your view.  While you could post to an old thread to add some info, what value does that actually add to a discussion that hasn't progressed in a few months?  How many people do you think will see that?  The only ones that will know you did would be anyone following you.  Depending on the group the topic is in, that reply you wrote up could easily get lost by other topics that have active discussions.

Why not instead make a new post and link to the old?  With a new post, it creates a new discussion around it.  With a link to the old, it adds more context to the old discussion.  Replying to old posts (necroing) in almost any forum is frowned upon for the reasoning above.  It does create a disjointed conversation.

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netaficionado
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Alequaff wrote:

If its an old thread, you should really start a new one... as the message says by reviving an old thread it could create outdated disjointed information... mainly due to technology and software changing constantly. 

Did you read the thread? It had nothing to do directly with technology. It was about managing a circumstance.

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netaficionado
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Snufykat wrote:

Let old posts die.

Unless you are solving an issue that was not solved in the original thread then let the thread go.

If an old necro thread starts coming to the top of the social hub page then we all get to waste our time reading a 7 month old post as well.

that brings up a good point. i just noticed the -7 yeah that made it all worth it.

How does the forum rank material? Your saying that by awakening an old thread it will more likely show up... even if you list by relevance. Just wondering and an honest question.

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netaficionado
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Jimmy T. wrote:

Not a moderator myself, but I can understand your view.  While you could post to an old thread to add some info, what value does that actually add to a discussion that hasn't progressed in a few months?  How many people do you think will see that?  The only ones that will know you did would be anyone following you.  Depending on the group the topic is in, that reply you wrote up could easily get lost by other topics that have active discussions.

Why not instead make a new post and link to the old?  With a new post, it creates a new discussion around it.  With a link to the old, it adds more context to the old discussion.  Replying to old posts (necroing) in almost any forum is frowned upon for the reasoning above.  It does create a disjointed conversation.

 like i said google will take you there!!!!﻿

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I haven't had a chance to read this yet. Just wanted to give you all a heads up that we're in our weekly CM Team meeting right now. We'll pop in and take a look soon!

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David (Spiceworks)
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I think the mods and veteran SpiceHeads have done a great job responding and explaining our policies here in the topic, but if you still want to talk about our guidelines any further, you can always feel free to PM the mod who handled the post, or you can email our team directly: communitymanagers@spiceworks.com.

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Jimmy T.
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netaficionado wrote:

Jimmy T. wrote:

Not a moderator myself, but I can understand your view.  While you could post to an old thread to add some info, what value does that actually add to a discussion that hasn't progressed in a few months?  How many people do you think will see that?  The only ones that will know you did would be anyone following you.  Depending on the group the topic is in, that reply you wrote up could easily get lost by other topics that have active discussions.

Why not instead make a new post and link to the old?  With a new post, it creates a new discussion around it.  With a link to the old, it adds more context to the old discussion.  Replying to old posts (necroing) in almost any forum is frowned upon for the reasoning above.  It does create a disjointed conversation.

 like i said google will take you there!!!!﻿

True, but that's true for anything.  The older posts have more time to build up in Google.  I've come across this many times while looking for solutions.  Sure, older posts can have info, but rarely do older posts help me with a problem.  I'm looking for newer info when searching.  Google bots wills scrape the newer posts as well, it just takes a bit longer.

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