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Ben Shapiro[edit]

Alrighty, it's Shapiro's birthday today, and I haven't been able to come up with any decent stuff worth mentioning on the article, so I'm deleting the "Tactics", and moving the "Facts" into a separate section. Should we keep the "Death" part? (other pages such as Simon Cowell have similar parts) AVRONYX TALK 15:20, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Always, always, always, the only point of having anything on the page is if it helps to be funny (or helps to set up a future section to be funny). It is very hard to get into the details of Shapiro's views, either as a defender or an adversary; again, see CoW#Extremists and WP:Poe's law. The history-of-the-future stuff, I have never warmed up to, as you never developed it. Spıke 🎙️15:53 15-Jan-21

I moved the "conspiracy theories" section to my userspace altogether. Also, I finally managed to add something for his "views" too. It's getting there. AVRONYX TALK 10:53, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Howard Dean Starbucks connection[edit]

My bad; I got Howard Dean mixed up with Howard Schultz. Both Democratic presidential candidates with the first name "Howard".--HolUp (talk) 03:16, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Fair enough. At any rate, a cryptic (to me!) reference about a secondary character seemed to detract from the biography of John Kerry. Second time in two days that I felt that your work fleshing out a passing reference might detract from the joke I was trying to tell. Cheers! Spıke 🎙️03:53 29-Jan-21

Intermittens Magazine Uncyclopedia UnFaithopedia Issue 12[edit]

Intermittens 12: UnFaithopedia, edited by Uncle Pedia. This magazine issue features select versions of Uncyclopedia articles on Discordianism, Church of the SubGenius, Sacred Chao, J.R. "Bob" Dobbs, Flying Spaghetti Monster, Invisible Pink Unicorn.

https://www.scribd.com/document/493596867/Intermittens-12-UnFaithopedia

Rozocran (talk) 23:19, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

I am afraid you are mistaken. I don't care what you have written elsewhere but what you are prepared to write here that is funny. Please don't spam the Forum. Spıke 🎙️00:18 7-Feb-21
I'm posting a link to a magazine issue about Uncyclopedia that's free, and you remove the link as advertisement? You don't want people advertising Uncyclopedia? Rozocran (talk) 01:22, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Yes I did. You are welcome to mention Uncyclopedia, especially if it's this one. But please don't spam the Forum. You are wrong, Wikia did not delete our articles, though they often proclaimed their right to. They mostly went after nudie photos and left us to patch the holes they left in our articles. Spıke 🎙️03:02 7-Feb-21
This 'Church of Discordia' and the Intermittens stuff reminds me of a very banned user. Laurels.gifRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 18:34, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
I have no guess as to that. However, "I've written a webzine that mentions you" is not a move to get readers here (especially as it does not provide our URL) but to get our readers somewhere else. Spıke 🎙️19:19 7-Feb-21
The issue does have the url here. It also quotes the Wikipedia article about you. Rozocran (talk) 21:09, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

User:Thomasthetankie/Thomas and the Magic Railroad[edit]

you deleted my page, so can you make a copy into userspace. now it’s time for Thomasthetankie Engine to go home he had seen everything! 🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂 00:39, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Done. This is not an encyclopedia article, so keep it out of the encyclopedia. Spıke 🎙️01:23 10-Feb-21

Marjorie Taylor Greene[edit]

Liked the joke with (Q) for Marjorie Taylor Greene's party allegiance in the QAnon article. She makes Sarah Palin look like a towering intellect. Now Trump has annointed MTG as a MAGA favourite, onwards and upwards in that Dept? Can we out wack a wack job??Laurels.gifRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 20:43, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I have been sampling CitizenFreePress.com some more. Its reader comment section is literally people pining for Trump to be re-installed by any Deus Ex Machina necessary. When I comment, the thumbs-downs come out, as I appear to not be 100% on Trump's side. (Surely you have never gotten that opinion.) One gets the same leg-sniffing when dealing with anti-abortion Republicans.
"Towering intellect"? Do you have any problems with the Commander-in-Chief?!
It is astonishing that the new Congress's priorities have been to (1) trash Trump (and ironically keep him on the front page in media that refuse to cover anything he says and (2) go after Greene and Lauren Boebert. This last I consider an attempt to deal with their slim 10-vote majority (meaning they cannot afford to lose 5 votes). Boebert I found interesting. Greene I know nothing about except that she is "associated" with QAnon by retweeting, by which standard I risk being exiled, so "we" are not going to out-wack her, though if "you" do, I may be along to copy-edit, and do misspell and use double quotes for Yank topics. Laura Loomer, a more relevant personality, did not get elected. Spıke 🎙️21:33 1-Feb-21
There will be time for more Biden jokes (if I can think of some). Laura Loomer, she has sort of disappeared a bit. I think she has been out-looned by Marjorie Taylor Greene. BTW, has anyone told Ben Carson that it's all over. Is he still in his office with that pricey furniture??? Laurels.gifRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 01:04, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Sure, until Biden's own Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Marcia Fudge, gets her inevitable confirmation. Loomer has neither been out-looned nor out-loomed but out-targeted. If you ever draw a blank on Biden jokes, leave it to me, they write themselves. Spıke 🎙️01:44 2-Feb-21

I see you have created the article, Romartus, converting Jimlemon's smallish UnNews. This is an improvement.

MTG is nuts. Compare Todd Akin (rape victims auto-abort), Mourdock (God loves even the products of rape) and the witchcraft fan from Delaware around the same time.

The problem is that MTG is not notable, except by being the biggest nutcase in the Congressional Class of 2020, and thus the focus of a partisan effort to make Republicans eat-their-own. There are always nutcases in any 200-member faction. My concern is that merely making her out as bigger than she is feeds the partisan campaign.

I will delete the piece about "stealing the election" (as the Uncyclopedia article takes a position and does not contribute humor except for a tedious shadow reference to Goebbels) and inclusion in {{GOP}}; as I wrote earlier on your talk page, MTG is a caricature used to attack the party, and party templates should include not just attacks from the other party but personalities who have come to represent its mainstream. Spıke 🎙️01:44 11-Feb-21

Since Mitt Romney said she was on the Kook wing of the GOP, can't see why Greene's name is left off the template. I accepted the removal of Sidney Powell (Kraken Lady) but Greene is an elected official for her party. Like Lauren Boebert. Laurels.gifRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 14:42, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
There are 250 elected officials of each party. She's not as notable as the others in the template (except as a target of the opposition) and the article's not terribly notable yet. Spıke 🎙️15:18 11-Feb-21
What does she need to be notable? Would Josh Hawley be notable or not notable?? Laurels.gifRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 15:33, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
For a fringe position on a single vote? Certainly not! Cruz is, but only because of his Presidential campaign. "In the news lately" does not merit inclusion on a nav-template. Spıke 🎙️15:41 11-Feb-21

Hmor[edit]

I would have kept the Cape of Good Hmor. Those letters are not banned in Hmor. I have it on good authority. Laurels.gifRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 20:05, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

The utterances are from Goo, where they are banned. The first change (to Goo) was by LoudAbruption. I edited it later on. "efence" carries on the joke but also suggests electronic fence. The second sentence (that the change might be goo) is cute too. In fact, its name might be Goo Humor, as "U" isn't banned there; only we took care that "U" not exist in the entire article. Spıke 🎙️20:14 1-Mar-21

Question: Am I unable to add images?[edit]

Whenever I attempt to add an image, it gives me a nopermission error. Does my account have to be older? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Michaelsteele3 (talk • contribs)

I have autopatrolled to your user rights. Does that make a difference? Laurels.gifRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 15:59, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Sadly no, the upload screen only says "⧼apierror-permissiondenied⧽" Michaelsteele3 (talk) 17:38, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
I think it needs 3 days and a nominal number of edits for your account to "age"; be patient. Spıke 🎙️18:13 2-Mar-21
We could ask Llwy-ar-lawr who runs the tech aspects of the site.Laurels.gifRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 18:21, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
By the time we did, the account would have aged. Spıke 🎙️18:51 2-Mar-21

Question:Why did you ICU my book?[edit]

I don't think it was so bad that it deserved to be ICU'd. -Soon. (talk) 03:15, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Write funny stuff. Spıke 🎙️03:19 3-Mar-21
Could you be a bit more specific please? -Soon. (talk) 03:21, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
In my opinion, UnBooks is not here for you to write a book, but for you to take a classic book, or a book our readers would be familiar with, and take the piss out of it. As in satire, right? So take it to Facebook, or something. Spıke 🎙️03:26 3-Mar-21

quick question[edit]

why does the uncyclopedia logo have a scallion on the forward-facing side? -Soon. (talk) 19:34, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Because it's that time of year. Why does your signature not say who you are? Spıke 🎙️19:48 3-Mar-21
Because they're after me. -Soon. (talk) 20:25, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

another quick question[edit]

so, question: if i put the 'mess' template on my own userspace, would i still be banned? --I like chicken (talk) 17:45, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

If you create another page that is guaranteed to be offensive and unappealing to everyone other than yourself, I don't care where it is. Patrolling your edits is a waste of time, as is replying to you. Spıke 🎙️18:44 12-Mar-21

What about this image?[edit]

In the same vein as your deletion of File:STFU-Bitch_do_you.jpg, does File:CAW3edit.jpg construe as un-Uncyclopedic? Also uploaded by the same user, it reads "Femme quae laedas ("Women should be hit")". Just bringing it to your attention for when you get a chance. Dark Web, White Hat (talk) 06:54, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

I can see no "satirical purpose," particularly as it is unused at all. Deleted, thanks. Spıke 🎙️10:14 16-Mar-21

can you VFD files?[edit]

Just in the event in ever would need to, could it be possible to put files on VFD? (i know this is a stupid question) -LoudAb. (talk) 16:38, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

It is an especially stupid question as we have discussed it on your talk page, as well as the proper procedure to follow! Are you a 'bot? Spıke 🎙️17:12 22-Mar-21
A bot couldn't be as stupid as I am. -LoudAb. (talk) 17:19, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Everyone is a winner here. :) --Laurels.gifRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 18:47, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
"We are all the best at something!" Spıke 🎙️19:02 22-Mar-21

User:Sog1970/Boston Tea Party Etiquette[edit]

Since we were discussing American history the other day... I noticed the Boston Tea Party article isn't great. Then this happened. It's unmerge-able with what's already there. So, it's a choice between replacing Boston Tea Party entirely, or uploading into Mainspace with the current title. What wouldst thou? Sog1970 (talk) 22:07, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

I'll take a look shortly. In general, if an edit constitutes a replacement-in-its-entirety, you should run it through VFD. Your article name should have lowercase "e", but people will be much more likely to find it under the shorter name. Spıke 🎙️22:25 29-Mar-21
Since your article is about the etiquette of the Boston Tea Party and not just the Boston Tea Party as a whole, I think both articles can coexist.--HolUp (talk) 22:29, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Okay, on the old Boston Tea Party: The fact that it's "a girly name" and analogs were funny. Section 1 is Randumbo, followed by an "alternative theory" which is different Randumbo. In Section 2, HolUp and I and no one else will recognize the names as the members of rock group Boston. Then the sentences get really long, then we end with technobabble. Not really No Redeeming Value, but closer to that than to Featurable.
And on your new one: Writing style plus content runs circles around the old but — cover your ears — It is not an encyclopedia article! I would put it at HowTo:Host a Boston Tea Party. Spıke 🎙️22:36 29-Mar-21
Agreed. And done. Should have thought of HowTo. It's not as though I've never written one before. Someone should deal with (ie replace almost all of) the Boston Tea Party though. It deserves better. Probably not a Welsh-Canadian, though I may edit it a little if i can be bothered. Sog1970 (talk) 11:34, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Template:HowTo[edit]

It looks like the template has only ever been vandalized by IPs and I have an edit I'm hoping to commit allowing for {{HowTo|subcategory}} sorting with safe fallbacks. Could you drop the protection level to semi? Dark Web, White Hat (talk) 07:46, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

No, I can't! The "Allow only autoconfirmed users" option is missing, as it is for another template I tried at random. I removed the protection temporarily. Spıke 🎙️08:28 10-Apr-21
Okay, thanks. I've made some edits to it, and that should be good for now. If you wanted to protect it again, you can do that; I've documented it at Template:HowTo/doc, Wikipedia-style, so the template documentation can still be edited even if {{HowTo}} is protected. Dark Web, White Hat (talk) 23:25, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
Have done! good work, and innovative! Spıke 🎙️00:43 11-Apr-21

Periodic Table[edit]

Moved to Forum:Interactive periodic table

Template:Welcome[edit]

Temporarily unprotect? I managed to get the conditionals for {{BASEPAGENAME}} to work (I made draft code here. Correct substitution and improper transclusion test cases look identical. In other words, it fails well.) Additionally, I have tweaked the style ever so slightly. They're not big changes, but I hope to make edits and document that the template should always be substituted, like wikipedia:Template:Welcome. Dark Web, White Hat (talk) 23:06, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Done, go wild. Spıke 🎙️00:18 22-Apr-21
Thanks. Dark Web, White Hat (talk) 00:57, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
We both created a documentation page at the same time, so I merged them together. Why do you say SUBST the welcome? I never do, for the reason stated in my documentation. Spıke 🎙️01:14 22-Apr-21
After some thought, I concede (a tad verbosely). Wikipedia's rationale is twofold:
  1. substitution of templates reduces server strain
  2. welcome messages shouldn't vary in a way that the user thinks they're going crazy (like: I could have sworn that message had an image of Oscar Wilde on it...did I misremember?)
As for the first point, Wikipedia is a massive project with over a billion edits so they forbid signature file templates being transcluded—but signature files don't seem to be a performance hit for our smaller Uncyclopedia project. We stand at 265 transclusions of {{Welcome}}, and – even accounting for future growth – the performance impact from transcluded {{Welcome}} should be negligible as [t]ransclusion events occur every time the page is loaded; for users who are welcomed and never edit again, it won't even come up.
As for the second point, people probably don't have the same expectations here as they do for Wikipedia. The potato logo changes throughout the year, for instance. And occasional practical improvements to the template like adding {{Writing funny stuff}} and removing the chat link are good things. I suppose the template functions like an always-current pamphlet, able to give an up-to-date overview of the project; whereas Wikipedia already has plenty of documentation.
I conclude your idea is better.
By the way (no longer part of my explanation), while searching Wikipedia's community talk pages for technical information, I found an archived poll that amuses me, showcasing the folly of bureaucratic process: they take a poll to get consensus over whether a comma belongs after the opening greeting and before the person's name for their bloated Welcome template. Sometimes I think they're the funny ones. Cheers. Dark Web, White Hat (talk) 04:21, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

VFH nomination list[edit]

I know you managed to fix this problem before at https://uncyclopedia.ca/wiki/Uncyclopedia:VFH/summary but I can't see how you did it! --Laurels.gifRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 09:39, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

The last time, I fixed it by replacing Nigel Scribbler's signature file with his plaintext username. This time, I fixed it by doing the same thing to your and my signatures — even though the same three signed the nomination of New Panama Canal in the exact same way. I think that what's happening is that an inoccuous vertical bar is blowing up a template; I don't know how or why. Spıke 🎙️10:36 23-Apr-21

Undelete these?[edit]

DPL2 is fragile and confusing. Not to sound critical when I say: I think you broke the table you discussed at User talk:Sog1970#Swan song on VFH.

You deleted Template:Votevfh.dpl2, which is still being called in at least one page's wiki code as {Votevfh}.dpl2 but won't show up at Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Votevfh.dpl2 because it's a "phantom template" only being tracked by linking to a non-obvious template which lists pages using any DPL2.

I'm not sure what Template:Aag/avgvfh even did, but I'd un-delete Template:Votevfh.dpl2. For good measure, I'd also un-delete Template:Votevfh.dpl5 and Template:Forloop.dpl2. They seem to be helper templates, and I suspect reinstating them would fix the recent "Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character "[".% " on Uncyclopedia:VFH/summary. Dark Web, White Hat (talk) 04:54, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Sorry! I was working from User:Frosty/list of templates that are probably useless (useless probably based on short length). Undeleting the first restored the "health" score in VFH/summary. Spıke 🎙️11:24 1-May-21

Redirect this template?[edit]

Because I haven't bothered you enough lately. Could you redirect cascade protected {{Shortcut}} to {{Shortcuts}}, which is more powerful? You know, replace the page text of Template:Shortcut with #REDIRECT [[Template:Shortcuts]] like any other page. An anon started improvements and I finished it. Demo here for a comparison if you care. Dark Web, White Hat (talk) 08:28, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Done. Spıke 🎙️11:25 1-May-21

Fixing the VFH templates[edit]

The prospective code I came up with last night looks like it will fix the issue. No guarantees it's bug-free, but it looks more robust than what we have now. There was indeed unescaped pipe in {{Votevfh}} near the "comments" parameter, which I fixed. I eliminated the buggy {{Votevfh.dpl}} altogether and went for a minimal approach without it; with this reduced complexity I haven't seen any limitation on signatures or templates in voting. There should be no loss in functionality, only cosmetic differences.

I'll use Swan song for the examples because it was the broken one, but it applies to all VFH pages. Uncyclopedia:VFH#Swan song will look exactly as the table does on Uncyclopedia:VFH/Swan song: rather than changing the article name to a vote button, it'll always be a vote button, and the table cells won't be subtly transformed. Demonstration that signatures now work at Uncyclopedia:VFH sandbox#Swan song and Uncyclopedia:VFH/testcases2.

So, anyway, if it looks good to you, I should be able to commit the edits if you temporarily unprotect Uncyclopedia:VFH and Template:Votevfh. Dark Web, White Hat (talk) 01:12, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

So be it. Spıke 🎙️02:00 5-May-21
 Done. I don't see any problems. Dark Web, White Hat (talk) 02:15, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
In that case, great job! Then {{Votevfh.dpl}} and your temporary files are bound for QVFD? Spıke 🎙️02:21 5-May-21
Thanks. And yes. Though, oops, actually, unprotect {{Votevfh}} again for a moment: I didn't change it to use Category:VFH nomination but still Category:VFH nomination sandbox. Dark Web, White Hat (talk) 02:24, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, sorry about that. Until the server re-categorizes them VFH may temporarily not show all the nominations, but it looks like the system is working on it and all will be back to normal when Category:VFH nomination is repopulated. Dark Web, White Hat (talk) 02:41, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
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