"Isaac Asimov read creationist books.  He read the Bible.  He had ample
opportunity to kneel before his Creator and Savior.  He refused.  In
fact, he sent out a strong promotional letter urging support of the
American Humanist Association, shortly before he died."

   --excerpt from Ken Ham, "Asimov Meets His Creator," _Back to Genesis_
     No. 42, June 1992, p. c (included in _Acts & Facts_ vol. 21, no. 6,
     June 1992, from the Institute for Creation Research).  This is one
     of the most offensive articles they've ever published--but at least
     it argues *against* a deathbed conversion.  There's a part of the
     article even worse than what I've just quoted, in which an excerpt
     from a reader's letter says that if Asimov is burning in hell now,
     "then he certainly has had a 180-degree change in his former beliefs
     about creation and the Creator."  (A post-deathbed conversion.)


I am having trouble viewing GIF files on my system.  Large sections
don't show up.  I have tried VPIC and PICEM - both do the same.  I am
running a Gateway 486/33C with a Speedstar Plus VGA card and an
NEC Multisync 4Ds 16 inch monitor.  Any suggestions?  I don't know if
Robert Woodward
Department of Physiology, University of Missouri, Columbia, MO  65212
e-mail:  c557652@mizzou1.missouri.edu


Ofranko. Coming from a self-exposed historical revisionist, a
self-admitted anti-Muslim and a genocide apologist, Hamaza should
take your drivel as a compliment. Furthermore, you even deny the
obvious. There was a genocide of the Muslims carried out by order of
the fascist x-Soviet Armenian Government. Massacres of Muslims must be
studied in detail, because they are the first modern example of the
horrible crime of genocide. Blame must be apportioned to the Armenians
and their supporters for the murder of Muslims. The Turkish historic
homeland, emptied of its native population until today, remains occupied
by the x-Soviet Armenian Government. Today, x-Soviet Armenia covers up
the genocide perpetrated by its predecessors and is therefore an accessory
to this crime against humanity. x-Soviet Armenia must pay for its crime
of genocide against the Muslims by admitting to the crime and making
reparations to the Turks and Kurds.

The following are the Jewish and Armenian sources on the cold-blooded
genocide perpetrated by the x-Soviet Armenian Government against 2.5
million Muslim people between 1914 and 1920. Still denying the obvious?

Source: Stanford J. Shaw, on Armenian collaboration with invading Russian
armies in 1914, "History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey (Volume
II: Reform, Revolution & Republic: The Rise of Modern Turkey, 1808-1975)."
(London, Cambridge University Press 1977). pp. 315-316.

"In April 1915 Dashnaks from Russian Armenia organized a revolt in the city
 of Van, whose 33,789 Armenians comprised 42.3 percent of the population,
 closest to an Armenian majority of any city in the Empire...Leaving Erivan
 on April 28, 1915, Armenian volunteers reached Van on May 14 and organized
 and carried out a general slaughter of the local Muslim population during
 the next two days."

"Knowing their numbers would never justify their territorial ambitions,
 Armenians looked to Russia and Europe for the fulfillment of their aims.
 Armenian treachery in this regard culminated at the beginning of the First
 World War with the decision of the revolutionary organizations to refuse
 to serve their state, the Ottoman Empire, and to assist instead other
 invading Russian armies. Their hope was their participation in the Russian
 success would be rewarded with an independent Armenian state carved out of
 Ottoman territories. Armenian political leaders, army officers, and common
 soldiers began deserting in droves."

"With the Russian invasion of eastern Anatolia in 1914 at the beginning of
 World War I, the degree of Armenian collaboration with the Ottoman's enemy
 increased drastically. Ottoman supply lines were cut by guerilla attacks,
 Armenian revolutionaries armed Armenian civil populations, who in turn
 massacred the Muslim population of the province of Van in anticipation of
 expected arrival of the invading Russian armies."

Source: Stanford J. Shaw, "History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey,"
        Vol II. Cambridge University Press, London, 1979, pp. 314-317.

"...Meanwhile, Czar Nicholas II himself came to the Caucasus to make final
 plans for cooperation with the Armenians against the Ottomans, with the
 president of the Armenian National Bureau in Tiflis declaring in response:

 'From all countries Armenians are hurrying to enter the ranks of the
  glorious Russian Army, with their blood to serve the victory of Russian
  arms...Let the Russian flag wave freely over the Dardanelles and the
  Bosporus. Let, with Your will, great Majesty, the peoples remaining
  under the Turkish yoke receive freedom. Let the Armenian people of Turkey
  who have suffered for the faith of Christ receive resurrection for a new
  free life under the protection of Russia.'[155]

Armenians again flooded into the czarist armies. Preparations were made
to strike the Ottomans from the rear, and the czar returned to St. Petersburg
confident that the day finally had come for him to reach Istanbul."

[155] Horizon, Tiflis, November 30, 1914, quoted by Hovannisian, "Road to
Independence," p. 45; FO 2485, 2484/46942, 22083.

"Ottoman morale and military position in the east were seriously hurt, and
 the way was prepared for a new Russian push into eastern Anatolia, to be
 accompanied by an open Armenian revolt against the sultan.[156]"

[156] Hovannisian, "Road to Independence," pp. 45-47; Bayur, III/1,
pp. 349-380; W.E.D. Allen and P. Muratoff, "Caucasian Battlefields,"
Cambridge, 1953, pp. 251-277; Ali Ihsan Sabis, "Harb Hahralaram," 2 vols.,
Ankara, 1951, II, 41-160; FO 2146 no. 70404; FO 2485; FO 2484, nos.
46942 and 22083.

"An Armenian state was organized at Van under Russian protection, and it
 appeared that with the Muslim natives dead or driven away, it might be
 able to maintain itself at one of the oldest centers of ancient Armenian
 civilization. An Armenian legion was organized 'to expel the Turks from
 the entire southern shore of the lake in preparation for a concerted
 Russian drive into the Bitlis vilayet.'[162] Thousands of Armenians from
 Mus and other major centers in the east began to flood into the new
 Armenian state...By mid-July there were as many as 250,000 Armenians
 crowded into the Van area, which before the crisis had housed and fed
 no more than 50,000 people, Muslim and non-Muslim alike.[163]"

[162] Hovannisian, "Road to Independence," p. 56; FOP 2488, nos. 127223 and
58350.

[163] BVA, Meclis-i Vukela Mazbatalari, debates of August 15-17, 1915;
Babi-i Ali Evrak Odasi, no. 175, 321, "Van Ihtilali ve Katl-i Ami,"
Zilkade 1333/10 September 1915.

Source: Hovannisian, Richard G.: Armenia on the Road to Independence, 1918.
University of California Press (Berkeley and Los Angeles), 1967, p. 13.

"The addition of the Kars and Batum oblasts to the Empire increased the
 area of Transcaucasia to over 130,000 square miles. The estimated population
 of the entire region in 1886 was 4,700,000, of whom 940,000 (20 percent) were
 Armenian, 1,200,000 (25 percent) Georgian, and 2,220,000 (45 percent) Moslem.
 Of the latter group, 1,140,000 were Tatars. Paradoxically, barely one-third
 of Transcaucasia's Armenians lived in the Erevan guberniia, where the
 Christians constituted a majority in only three of the seven uezds. Erevan
 uezd, the administrative center of the province, had only 44,000 Armenians
 as compared to 68,000 Moslems. By the time of the Russian Census of 1897,
 however, the Armenians had established a scant majority, 53 percent, in the
 guberniia; it had risen by 1916 to 60 percent, or 670,000 of the 1,120,000
 inhabitants. This impressive change in the province's ethnic character
 notwithstanding, there was, on the eve of the creation of the Armenian
 Republic, a solid block of 370,000 Tartars who continued to dominate the
 southern districts, from the outskirts of Ereven to the border of Persia."
 (See also Map 1. Historic Armenia and Map 4. Administrative subdivisions of
 Transcaucasia).

In 1920, '0' percent Turk.

"We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as
 ways of escape for the Tartars and then proceeded in the work
 of extermination. Our troops surrounded village after village.
 Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked the huts
 into heaps of stone and dust and when the villages became untenable
 and inhabitants fled from them into fields, bullets and bayonets
 completed the work. Some of the Tartars escaped of course. They
 found refuge in the mountains or succeeded in crossing the border
 into Turkey. The rest were killed. And so it is that the whole
 length of the borderland of Russian Armenia from Nakhitchevan to
 Akhalkalaki from the hot plains of Ararat to the cold mountain
 plateau of the North were dotted with mute mournful ruins of
 Tartar villages. They are quiet now, those villages, except for
 howling of wolves and jackals that visit them to paw over the
 scattered bones of the dead."

                             Ohanus Appressian
                            "Men Are Like That"
                                   p. 202.

"An appropriate analogy with the Jewish Holocaust might be the
 systematic extermination of the entire Muslim population of
 the independent republic of Armenia which consisted of at
 least 30-40 percent of the population of that republic. The
 memoirs of an Armenian army officer who participated in and
 eye-witnessed these atrocities was published in the U.S. in
 1926 with the title 'Men Are Like That.' Other references abound."
     (Rachel A. Bortnick - The Jewish Times - June 21, 1990)

 1."Men Are Like That" by Leonard A. Hartill, Bobbs Co., Indianapolis,
   1926

   Memoirs of an Armenian Army Officer translated to English and
   published by a member of American "Near East Relief Organization."
   Gives the whole account of the genocide of all Turkish and Moslem
   people in Armenia organized and executed by Armenian Government and
   Army. Also gives account of countless other massacres and atrocities
   against the Turkish people in Armenia.

 2."Adventures in the Near East, 1918-22" by A. Rawlinson,
   Dodd, Meade & Co., 1925

   Eyewitness account of the same genocide by a British Army Officer.

 3."World Alive, A Personal Story" by Robert Dunn,
   Crown Publishers, Inc., New York, 1952

   Another eyewitness account of the same genocide by an American
   Officer.

 4."From Sardarapat to Serves and Lousanne" by Avetis Aharonian,
   The Armenian Review Magazine, Volume 15 (Fall 1962) through 17
   (Spring 1964)

   Memoirs of the chief Armenian delegate to the Paris Peace Conference
   were published in the Armenian Review Magazine in 13 articles from
   Volume 15 (Fall 1962) to Volume 17 (Spring 1964). These memoirs
   include an interview between Aharonian and British Foreign Minister
   Lord Curzon in which above-mentioned genocide was discussed. The
   official report mentioned by Lord Curzon is the report of British
   High Commissioner to Caucasia, Sir Oliver Wardrop.

Serdar Argic


You're definitely correct in that Williams absolutely has to be sandwiched
in between Clark and Bonds.  He must, and I mean MUST, get fastballs to
hit...otherwise he becomes little more than Sixto Lezcano in disguise.
What I would suggest is perhaps batting Bonds, Williams, and Clark
3-4-5, the reason being that I feel Bonds' potential basestealing
abilities are wasted when he's stuck behind two slow runners.
I think the chance of getting 20-30 extra stolen bases with Bonds in the
3 spot would more than offset any drop in in run production by having
Clark in the 5 spot.


I have a 486/50Mhz ISA Board with 256kbyte Cache and 16 Megs
RAM. I just bought the new soundblaster 16 and tried to
install the card. The sb16 uses 16bit DMA channel.I could
select between channel 5 to 7. It is the first card I ever
installed that uses 16bit dma transfer. After I tested
the card the first time, the computer crashed and I got a
parity error-system halted. This happens either from dos as
also from windows. So it seems that my 16 bit dma channels
are not working properly (they are there because testsb16.exe
recocnize them and tests them ok until first access).

Well, does anybody know a solution for this problem or a
special test program for dma problems? I eliminated the
problem temporaly by using only 8 bit dma channel but it
makes the system slow!


  I am not a paranoid, nor a government toady, nor even am I the guy you were
talking to originally, but I think you are simply NOT PAYING ATTENTION.

  A bunch of people living off by themselves with a lot of guns nearby is not
that wierd in Texas.  My own family, very quiet taxpayers with extremely con-
ventional views, has something like 10 rifles and shotguns in a two-person
home.  Some of them were mine, but I don't live there anymore.  I now have
my own shotgun in my apartment.

  Texas Child Protective Services (which loves to find child abuse) found no,
I repeat NO, evidence of abuse when they first looked at the BD, and is saying
that they see none in any of the kids who were released.  There is no evidence
that Koresh was banging anyone but his wives.

  It is not against the law to stockpile (most) weapons or campbell's soup.
Nor is there any hard evidence in the form of actual hardware (as I write this)
to prove the BD really had any *proscribed* weapons.

  I feel they were all loonies, but there is no indication that they ever
bothered anyone.  They were gone after in the wrong ways for the wrong reasons,
and the BATF and FBI who are so busy trumpeting this child abuse angle hasn't
got a leg to stand on or any right to be involved in such abuse cases anyway.
If there was any real danger of the BD's going out on a rampage, then that
is up to the officers of the state of Texas, who are probably getting a per-
verse bit of pleasure at getting to torque the Feds for fucking up something
in their state.

semper fi,


I cannot believe you can make these claims given hard evidence of
abuse.  Do you ignore stories about survellience of Martin Luther
King, have you blocked from your mind McCarthy's crusade in the 50's?

And how many illegal wiretaps are performed?  Funny, but I'll be that
the FBI doesn't keep statistics on these!

"confidential informer" = illegal wiretap

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Case Western Reserve Med School teaches nutrition in its own section as
well as covering it in other sections as they apply (i.e. B12
deficiency in neuro as a cause of neuropathy, B12 deficiency in
hematology as a cause of megaloblastic anemia), yet I sill
hold the viewpoint of mainstream medicine:  candida can cause
mucocutaneous candidiasis, and, in already very sick patients
with damaged immune systems like AIDS and cancer patients,
systemic candida infection.  I think "The Yeast Connection" is
a bunch of hooey.  What does this have to do with how well
nutrition is taught, anyway?

Well, maybe I'm getting picky, but I always thought that a yeast
was one form that a fungus could exist in, the other being the
mold form.  Many fungi can occur as either yeasts or molds,
depending on environment.  Candida exibits what is known as
reverse dimorphism - it exists as a mold in the tissues
but exists as a yeast in the environment.  Should we maybe
call it a mold infection?  a fungus infection?  Maybe we
should say it is caused by a mold-like fungus.


Deeply grateful for citations to any papers on electronic cash schemes.
Enquiring minds &c...


Yes, he does.  BUT, the goalie sure as hell doesn't want him there!  When
I played roller hockey (boy do I miss those days) as a goalie, I would
scream at my defense to clear guys out of the slot.  I don't care if he's
in the crease or not, get him the hell away from me so I can see the ball!
(Yes, roller hockey, remember)  And if there was nobody around to clear
the slot, then I'd do it myself by pushing the offending player--*hard*.
I *hate* people in my way when I'm the goalie, and I am sure Felix does
too.  I should say that I didn't see the incident, so if Potvin really
swung the stick big time, then that's not right, but he can move people
out of the way.  He's a player on the ice too, you know.  :-)


Okay, I got enough replies about the Kubota Kenai/Denali systems that I
will post a summary of their capabilities.  I haven't actually used one
or seen one, so take the specs with a grain of salt.  I'd like to see
an independent review of one against, say, an SGI Indigo Extreme or
something.

Basically, the Kenai workstations are DEC Alpha AXP based workstations that
run OSF/1 ( DEC's ) and will likely run Windows NT in the future.  They are
binary compatible with Digital's OSF/1 Alpha AXP implementation.  Denali
is their graphics subsystem, which is upgradable in the field by
simply adding "transformation engines".

The two main Kenai machines are the 3400 Imaging and 3D Graphics Workstation
and the 3500 Imaging and 3D Graphics Workstation.

			3400			3500

CPU			DEC Alpha AXP 133MHz	DEC Alpha AXP 150MHz
On-chip cache		8k/8k			8k/8k
Onboard cache		512K			512K
Word Size		64-bit			64-bit
Memory ( initial )	32-128MB		32-256MB
Memory ( future )	512MB			1GB
SPECMARK89		111			126
SPECINT92		75			84
SPECFP92		112			128

GRAPHICS

Transform Modules	1-6			1-6
Frame Buffer Modules	5,10,20			5,10,20
Frame Buffer		1280x1024x24bit		1280x1024x24bit
			double buffered		double buffered
Z-buffer		24-bit			24-bit
Alpha/stencil		8-bit			8-bit
Stereo support		yes			yes
Other:				both machines will double buffer or do
				stereo output per window.  Both have an
				auxiliary video output that is RS-170A,
				NTSC, and PAL

STORAGE

Internal-fixed		2 3.5"			4 3.5"
Internal-removable	1 5.25"			2 5.25"
Max capacity		9.5GB			11.6 GB

IO

Both have TurboChannel 100MB/sec, SCSI-2, Ethernet, and FDDI

APPLICATION PROGRAMMING INTERFACES

Both have libraries for Xlib, Motif, MIT PEXlib, DEC-PEXlib DEC-PHIGS, and GL

Okay, now the real stuff.  The Kenai stations work with a graphics architecture
known as Denali.  The Denali comes in three models, the E, P, and V.  They
use a DECchip 21064 superscalar RISC processor at 150MHz.  Their
capabilities are as follows:

			E		P		V

2D Vectors		800-200K	2000-3800K	4000-4800K
3D Vectors #1		350-1100K	1100-1800K	1800-2100K
3D Vectors #2		300-1000K	1000-1600K	1600-1900K
3D Vectors #3		300-500K	800-1000K	1300-1400K
3D Triangles, #4	200-500K	600-1000K	1000-1200K
3D Triangles, #5	100-200K	300-400K	500-600K

#1: 10 pixel, flat shaded, connected
#2: 10 pixel, Gouraud shaded, connected
#3: 10 pixel, 2-pixel wide, anti-aliased, connected
#4: 50-pixel, Gouraud shaded, Z-buffered, strip
#5: 50-pixel, texture mapped, persp., point sampled

IMAGE PROCESSING

Cine loop - 8-bit	15-36Mp/s	37-58 Mp/s	60-68 Mp/s
Cine loop - 16-bit	14 Mp/s		25 Mp/s		38 Mp/s
Cine loop - 24-bit	12-21 Mp/s	21 Mp/s		21 Mp/s
Contrast stretching #1	14 Mp/s		25 Mp/s		20 Mp/s
Bilinear zoom		6 Mp/s		11 Mp/s		20 Mp/s
Trilinear interp#2	--		6 Mvoxels/s	11 Mvoxels/s

#1: Lookup table -- 12-,16-bit to 8
#2: Trilinear interpolation, 8-bit voxels

CONFIGURATIONS
Frame Buffer Modules	5		10		20
Transform Engine Mod.	1-3		3-5		5-6

As you can see, these are pretty powerful workstations, and the best part
is the pricing.  I would recommend that you call Kubota for more information.
Their number is 408-727-8100.  I'm sure they'll send you an information you
may want.  Oh, some prices:

Low-end

Kenai 3400, E Series w/ 1 TEM and 5 FBM --- 27,795 dollars U.S.
Kenai 3500, E Series w/ 1 TEM and 5 FBM --- 45,345 dollars U.S.

High-end

Kenai 3400, V Series w/ 6 TEM and 20 FBM -- 61,795 dollars U.S.
Kenai 3500, V Series w/ 6 TEM and 20 FBM -- 79,345 dollars U.S.

If someone could post a relative comparision with an Indigo Extreme or
something I would appreciate it.

Hope this helps someone out there,

Brian


never heard of arguement by absurdity, eh no?  Also called
sarcasm.  The usual procedure is to accept some part of the
'oppositions' arguement and run with it until one goes
beyond 'rational thought' and then ring the changes.

z.B. The idea of a minimum wage is considered a good one.
And in these times of economic difficulty, the Washington
legislature is propossing to raise the State MinWage from
$4.25 (the federal level) to $4.90 (fifteen cents over
Oregon's).
	It would seem to me that this increase does not
keep pace with inflation, that the minimum wage should be
to $6.08 by my figures, so it is proposed that we raise
the minimum wage to $6.50 per hour by 1 July and then give
a 10% cost of living increase every 4 July.

and anyone who doesn't like it is obviously a country club
republican getting rich off the exploitation of poor people.

chus
pyotr


But, Gary, for certain sofa tubers like myself, this is an advantage.  I
can watch the Pirates on KBL, the Mets on WWOR, the Braves on TBS, and the
mediots on ESPN at the same time, without missing anything.  (If something
impressive happens, I'll catch the replay :-) ).

So, I see (essentially) 4 games in 3 hours, instead of 1 game in 2 hours.
What a deal!

(Insert smileys as desired...)


What is NASA's annual budget?
This year will do, a few years back wpuld be nice too
but I need this item fast so emails off the top of your head very
much appreciated (FAQs vanish here!).

-Tony Ryan, "Astronomy & Space", new International magazine, available from:
              Astronomy Ireland, P.O.Box 2888, Dublin 1, Ireland.
6 issues (one year sub.): UK 10.00 pounds, US$20 surface (add US$8 airmail).
ACCESS/VISA/MASTERCARD accepted (give number, expiration date, name&address).


once upon a time, that's exactly what they would have done & everyone
could have just gone on living a peaceful (if well armed) life. what
is it that makes people think they have the right -not- to just leave
others be?

jason


And from whence does this right stem, that it overrides the 'rights'
of the rest of us?

And if you want to view that television station, you have to watch the
commercials.  You can't turn them off and still be viewing the
television station.  In other words, if you don't like what you see,
don't look.  There is no 'right' I can think of that you have to force
other people to conform to your idea of aesthetic behaviour.  What's
next, laws regulating how people must dress and look so as to appeal
to your fashion sense, since you have this 'right' of an aesthetic
view?

Which has what to do with the topic of discussion?

Oh, I see.  You don't want any legislation that might impinge on you;
you just want everyone else on the planet to do what you want.

--
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden


Yes, Yes, I can see it now >>>> all those Sabre fans FINALLY taking
their Sabre sweaters out of the moth balls and proudly wearing them.
After 9 years of playoff frustration and being up 3 games to nil
I guess it is a pretty good bet.    BUT there has not been a team
that has come back from an 0-3 deficit since 1975 - could this be
the year.   (Don't throw out the moth balls yet)


Curtis Joseph and Ray LeBlanc have made some big moves in the
poll recently. Hextall has shown some strong movement as well. Kirk
McLean and Tom Barrasso (I can't see why) have been added to the list
recently. Keep sending in those votes.

Current votes for favorite goalie masks (3pts - 1st, 2pts - 2nd, 1pt - 3rd)

Player                    Team                 Pts       Votes
--------------------------------------------------------------
1. Ed Belfour             Chicago              32         15
   Curtis Joseph          St. Louis            32         13
3. Andy Moog              Boston               30         13
4. Brian Hayward          San Jose             26         10
5. Ron Hextall            Quebec               16          8
6. Grant Fuhr             Buffalo              12          5
7. Gerry Cheevers         Boston (retired)     11          6
8. John Vanbeisbrouck     NY Rangers           10          4
9. Ray LeBlanc            USA Olympic           7          3
10. Mike Richter          NY Rangers            6          3
11. Manon Rheaume         Atlanta (IHL)         5          2
12. Don Beaupre           Washington            4          2
    Ken Dryden            Montreal (retired)    4          2
--------------------------------------------------------------
Others receiving less than 4pts: Mike Vernon (Cal), Clint
 Malarchuk (Buf/SD,IHL), Tommy Soderstrom (Phil), Tom Barrasso (Pit),
 Artus Irbe (SJ), Tim Cheveldae (Det), Sean Burke (NJ),
 Rick Wamsley (Tor,ret), Jon Casey (Minn), Bob Essensa (Win),
 Glenn Healy (NYI), Tony Espo (Chi), Gilles Gratton (Bos),
 Rod Stauber (LA), Gump Worsley (Mtl/NYR), Pat Jablonski (TB),
 Grant Fuhr (Tor), Felix Potvin (Tor), Stephane Beauregard (Win),
 Mark Fitzpatrick (NYI), Chico Resch (NYI), Kirk McLean (Van)


Heil Ajami!, or do you prefer
Heil Martillo! or
Heil Santos! or
Heil Carlo! or
Heil Joachim!<- This I would suggest against, it sounds too informal, mein
fuhrer!


Why not?  It hasn't been released, so there's no way for you to evaluate it
yet.  After all, Apple could have been smart and had AOCE use an MD5 hash
encrypted with RSA, just like PKCS signatures.  They could even be actually
PKCS compliant, for all you know; why not wait until it is released, and hard
information is available, before passing judgement on it?

AOCE's algorithm's aren't secret because Apple's being fascistic--AOCE itself
remains secret (except for Apple demos at MacWorld :)), simply because it's
not done yet.

It may be flawed, and it may not.  However, you can't tell which until you
actually see it.  I, at least, am quite impressed with what I have seen so
far, and have no expectation of being disappointed.


I'm quite familiar with a variety of window title *setting* methods.

My question is...  Is there any way (via Resources, etc) to stop an
application's ability to re-name it's own Name / IconName properties?

...who cares if it's not 'nice' to the application -

	I WANT CONTROL! ;-)

-Mike


I didn't say the program is DISABLED, did I?  (I HATE!!!! it when people
take my words out of context...)  I mean that once you have installed it,
you cannot DEinstall it without registering it, or transfer it to another
machine, or SOME SORT OF LIMITATION (the author will decide), WHICH WILL
BE REMOVED WHEN THE PROGRAM IS REGISTERED.


I don't understand this at all.  Matt Williams has demonstrated
throughout his career that he will NOT wait for good pitches to hit.
He won't take walks.  He'd rather swing.  If I'm the opposing pitcher,
why would I groove a fastball to Williams and have him hit it well,
when I know that Williams will swing (and miss, or at least not hit
very well) at a low and away curve?


Now you are actually claiming that 2,000,000 Muslims have been killed
in B-H???

Please substantiate this utterly ridiculous claim.


Take a look at TeleUSE, a complete UIMS from Alsys (formerly TeleSoft).
In the US, you can reach them at (619) 457 2700.

Alsys have an VMS version of TeleUSE v2.0.5 for VMS V5.5 or higher,
built using DECwindows Motif 1.0 (based on X11R4 and Motif v1.1.1).

BTW, the VMS port from the UNIX version was made at my company, and was
released in November 1992.


Be patient. He has a sore shoulder from crashing into the wall.
The Cards will give him all the time he needs to come around.
He is their full time centerfielder.
He will not however steal as often this year as he is hitting
clean-up.


please subscribe me.


"Hate the sin but love the sinner"...I've heard that quite a bit recently,
often in the context of discussions about Christianity and homosexuality...
but the context really isn't that important. My question is whether that
statement is consistent with Christianity. I would think not.

Hate begets more hate, never love. Consider some sin. I'll leave it unnamed
since I don't want this to digress into an argument as to whether or not
something is a sin. Now lets apply our "hate the sin..." philosophy and see
what happens. If we truly hate the sin, then the more we see it, the
stronger our hatred of it will become. Eventually this hate becomes so
strong that we become disgusted with the sinner and eventually come to hate
the sinner. In addition, our hatred of the sin often causes us to say and
do things which are taken personally by the sinner (who often does not even
believe what they are doing is a sin). After enough of this, the sinner begins
to hate us (they certainly don't love us for our constant criticism of their
behavior). Hate builds up and drives people away from God...this certainly
cannot be a good way to build love.

In the summary of the law, Christ commands us to love God and to love our
neighbors. He doesn't say anything about hate. In fact, if anything, he
commands us to save our criticisms for ourselves. So, how are Christians
supposed to deal with the sin of others? I suppose that there is only one
way to deal with sin (either in others or ourselves)...through prayer. We
need to ask God to help us with our own sin, and to help those we love
with theirs. Only love can conquer sin...hatred has no place. The best way to
love someone is to pray for them.

- Scott


Yesterday, the FBI was saying that at least three of the bodies had
gunshot wounds, indicating that they were shot trying to escape the
fire.  Today's paper quotes the medical examiner as saying that there
is no evidence of gunshot wounds in any of the recovered bodies.

At the beginning of this siege, it was reported that while Koresh
had a class III (machine gun) license, today's paper quotes the
government as saying, no, they didn't have a license.

Today's paper reports that a number of the bodies were found with
shoulder weapons next to them, as if they had been using them while
dying -- which doesn't sound like the sort of action I would expect
from a suicide.

Our government lies, as it tries to cover over its incompetence
and negligence.  Why should I believe the FBI's claims about
anything else, when we can see that they are LYING?

This system of government is beyond reform.


They could put on a Quebec-Montreal game.

Talk a bout areivalry!
opps rivalry..

roland


::DATE:   Sun, 25 Apr 1993 10:13:30 GMT
::FROM:   Fred Rice <darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au:
::
::
::The Qur'an talks about those who take their lusts and worldly desires for
::their "god".
::
::I think this probably encompasses most atheists.
::
:: Fred Rice
:: darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
:
:As well as all the Muslim men screwing fourteen year old prostitutes in
:Thailand.  Got a better quote?
:


To send a message to a CompuServe user via Internet E-Mail enter the
mail mode and address your receiver as follows: 723123.313@compuserve.com
The number is the receiver's CompuServe I.D. number. If the users number
contains a comma or anything other than a period, change it to a period.


I don't know about where you are, but here in California false
representation
of odometer readings is a criminal felony. If you can substantiate this,
you need to report that dealer to the local authorities. You should consult
with a lawyer to tell you what civil action you can take as well. Keep in
mind that you will have to prove that the dealer was aware of the change in
the dashboard.


The 850 is a V12 (5L, from the 750iL)  Is there a 835? or 840?


WIP is the REAL home of the Eagles.  Merril Reese and the Birds on
FM radio...what a joke.

A "classic rock" station at that!  Whats the sports world coming to?


I have successfully copied all of the uuencoded versions of these logos to my
local directory, but when I tried the GIF files, it said "Permission denied".
Could you explain why, and also how to execute the uuencoded files?

Thanks,

Ken


If you're doing large-scale satellite servicing, being able to do it in
a pressurized hangar makes considerable sense.  The question is whether
anyone is going to be doing large-scale satellite servicing in the near
future, to the point of justifying development of such a thing.

You'd almost certainly use air.  Given that you have to pressurize with
*something*, safety considerations strongly suggest making it breathable
(even if the servicing crew is using oxygen masks for normal breathing,
to avoid needing a ventilation system, it's nice if the hangar atmosphere
is breathable in a pinch -- it makes mask functioning much less critical).


Look, I don't want to bore everybody here with the physics of woodstoves,
but they're not anything like your Caloric gas range.  It takes about
three hours for a woodstove to get hot enough to cook on, and afterwards
you can't just "shut it off" -- it will contain hot embers for over 24
hours even after you choke it COMPLETELY.

So it ain't exactly "light up the stove and cook me a batch of them
pancakes, Aunt J..."  If you use a woodstove for cooking, or even for
heating your house at night, you will have it lit to SOME extent all
the time.  Trust me on this one, I speak from experience.
--


I think that if someone often has immoral dreams, like lustful dreams,
or dreams where you commit acts of violence, etc. etc. it may be a sign
that he has something sinful in his heart.  It may be the Holy Spirit's
way of allowing the sinfulness that is in us to come to light so that
we can pray about it and have it removed.  Generally, if one has a
pure heart, and sets his mind on things that are holy, he will be holy
even when he dreams.

Dreams also can be from the Lord.  Joseph and Nebucadnezzar are two examples
of people in the Bible who received dreams from the Lord.

Regarding out of body experiences, this is something that we have to be
careful with.  What is called an OOBE can be spiritual in nature, especially
if what one saw is the same as an experience witnessed by someone else.
Christians should certainly avoid any occult activity that would generate
an out of body experience.  Some things that might be called an OOBE
might actually be from the Lord.  Paul wrote of what might of been an OOBE.
In II Corinthians 12, he wrote of a spiritual experience of being caught
up into the third heaven.  Is an OOBE truely an OOBE?  Does one really
leave his body, or is he just seeing an image being shown to him by a
spirit, be it a demon or the Holy Spirit?  I don't think it matters
that much.  Paul could not tell.

Be that as it may, we should be careful not to open ourselves up to Satan
to experience OOBE's.  We should not meditate and pretend we are in a
place until our spirits apparently float there.  This is dangerous.  If
God wants to gice us what seems like an OOBE, then He can do that of His
own sovereign will.  In the Bible, most often it seems that prophets are
just taken up by God's sovereign will, and not because they are seeking
an OOBE.  John was in the Spirit praying on the Lord's day when he was
caught up in the visions he received.  Ezekial was talking with some
Jewish leaders when he was caught up into the visions of God one
time.  If God wants to take one of us up into a vision, he can do it.
People should be careful not to open themselves up to evil spirits
for the sake of a few thrills.


Yes, it is.  I have taken photos of it's minaret.

Dunno.

This doesn't sound like "eye for an eye" anymore.  Changed your tune?


Orating with wild abandon, prange@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (Henry Prange) offers:
%The grips on my GS are a wonderful thing in the winter and no problem
%in the summer. Vibration? BMW's don't vibrate. Everyone knows that.

I'd agree with Henry.  The grips are really nice to have in winter,
and aren't noticably different from 'normal' grips in summer.

My only complaint is that the 'low' setting might as well be 'off'.
This has been complained about by every reviewer, official and
unofficial, that's ever talked about these grips.  The 'high' setting
is often too high for use with lightweight summer gloves when things
just get a bit nippy, but since 'low' doesn't produce a noticable
effect, I end up turning the grips on and off to keep the temperature
about right.  This generally isn't a problem when wearing thicker
winter gloves.  When I asked the dealer if they could fix it, I
received a consoling pat on the back, and their sincere apologies for
the poor design (actually, I was told they worked just like they were
suppose to).

Vibration?  What's that?  I ride a BMW twin.  You can barely tell if
the engine is fired up or not most of the time, smoother than silk
sheets.


Hi Folks,

              Last year America bought two  "Hall Generators" which are
used as thrusters for space vehicles from former USSR,if I could recall
correctly these devices were sent to JPL,Pasadena labs for testing and
evaluation.

              I am just curious to know  how these devices work and what
what principle is involved .what became of them.There was also some
controversy that the Russian actually cheated,sold inferior devices and
not the one they use in there space vehicles.

Any info will be appreciated...
  ok   {                         Thank{ in advance...
Tamoor A Zaidi
Lockheed Commercial Aircraft Center
Norton AFB,San Bernardino


I have a very large (3x5 feet) file in Macintosh Canvas v2.something
which I need to import into AutoCad 12 in the least disk-space intensive
way possible.  (i.e. EPS is a big problem, since it took 1.3 MEG to encode
one page of the document)  The file is entirely lines and words.  I have
access to networked Macs & PC's, and ftp.  Can anyone suggest how this might
be accomplished?  Email replies, if you would, I don't read this group much.
Thanks in advance.


Um, Kent... just what *have* you been doing with his wife?!?  ;-D


I've found that I have to add the "-8" option for displaying JPEGs
with the new version.  For some reason, if I don't, it goes into
24-bit mode and the resulting image is displayed with 216 colors
(from a 6x6x6 array) instead of 256 and looks grainier.  Since I'm
on the ubiquitous 8-bit pseudo color display I would have thought it
could tell that.


I have an EISA machine and I just do not understand why most
EISA video cards only match the performance of their ISA
counterparts. For instance, the EISA Orchid Pro Designer IIs-E is
only about as "fast" as the ISA Diamond SpeedStar Plus, which isn't
what I would call "fast."

I don't understand why EISA video cards aren't, as a group, on the
same level of performance as Local Bus cards, given that EISA video
cards have a 32 bit bus to move data around, instead of ISA's 8 bits.

Since they are not, why would anyone (me included) pay a higher
cost for a EISA video card when its performance is no better than
and often worse that a much cheaper ISA video board, such as a
Diamond SpeedStar 24X? From PC Magazine's (I think) recent report,
I know that ATI makes a pretty fast EISA video card, but it's
around $500, which is just about double what my wallet will allow
me to spend. And, for $500, I could get a Diamond Viper and still
have $100 left over (of course, I'd have to get a Local Bus mother-
board too...)

Can anyone shed some light on my confusion/frustration?


Greetings,
	We have a network of ~20 Sun Workstations, running SunOS 4.1.1
and Openwindows 3.  7 of these are Sun 3's that we have modified to
run Seth Robertson's xkernel image, effectively turning them into
xterminals.  We use xdm (X11R4) to manage the displays.

	When we had 3 xkernel machines, things worked fine, but when
we installed 4 more last weekend, we appear to have found a weakness.
With 7 clients to 1 Sparc 2, the Sparc 2 window manager is eventually
getting munged.

	Let me try to be precise:  The user sitting at the machine
that does all the actual processing for these xterminals is having
control of his keyboard and screen yanked away.  (When this was the
department chair, it was kind of cute).  We poked at xdm for a few
days and are satisfied that it is not at fault.  Our current theory is
that olwm (the Sun version) was not meant for running multiple copies
on one machine (which is what happens -- the console user runs olwm,
and every xterminal logged in has olwm running on the xterminal
server).

	Has anyone had any prior experience with this sort of behavior?
	Can anyone shoot obvious holes in this theory?
	How about obvious gimmes?
	And, of course, any ideas on how to solve it?

	Any ideas are greatly appreciated.


When riding in a group, generally speaking, do most people mind when
another rider tags along?

I had the distinct feeling I may not have been welcome when I tagged
along with a group last weekend.


Pioneer PD-M530 Multi-Play CD Player with 5-disc magazine

-full-function remote
-all the standard features including computer allocated program editing
 and time fade editing.

It is in excellent shape- 1 year old. Asking $175.


[cont. Dr. James DeYoung; #3]

R. Scroggs

     Robin Scroggs has built upon the discussion of his predecessors and
suggested a new twist to the word.  Scroggs believes that arsenokoitai is a
"Hellenistic Jewish coinage, perhaps influenced by awareness of rabbinic
terminology."  The term is derived from Lev 18"22 & 20:13 where the LXX
juxtaposes the two words arsenos ("male") and koiten ("bed"), and represents
the Hebrew miskab zabar ("lying with a male").   Yet he believes that Paul did
not originate the term, but borrowed it from "circles of Hellenistic Jews
acquainted with rabbinic discussions" (180 n.14).  It was invented to avoid
"contact with the usual Greek terminology" (108).  If this is true, Scroggs
observes, it explains why the word does not appear in Greco-Roman discussions
of pederasty and why later patristic writers avoided it.  It was meaningless to
native-speaking Greeks (108).

     Scroggs takes the second part as the active word and the first word as the
object of the second part, thus differing from Boswell's "learned discussion"
(107).  Yet Scroggs understands the general meaning of "one who lies with a
male" to have a very narrow reference.  With the preceding malokoi (I Cor 6:9),
which Scroggs interprets as "the effeminate call-boy," arsenokoitai is the
active partner "who keeps the malakos of the 'mistress' or who hires him on
occasion to satisfy his sexual desires" (108).  Hence arsenokoitai does not
refer to homosexuality in general, to female homosexuality, or to the generic
model of pederasty.  It certainly cannot refer to the modern gay model, he
affirms (109).
     This is Scrogg's interpretation of the term in I Tim 1:10 also.  The
combination of pornoi ("fornicators"), arsenokoitai and andrapodistai ("slave
dealers") refers to "male prostitutes, males who lie [with them], and slave
dealers [who procure them]" (120).  It again refers to that  specific form of
pederasty "which consisted of the enslaving of boys as youths for sexual
purposes, and the use of these boys by adult males" (121).  Even "serious
minded pagan authors" condemned this form of pederasty.  He then uses these
instances of arsenokoitai in I Cor and I Tim to interpret the apparently
general condemnation of both female and male homosexuality in Rom 1.
Consequently Paul "Must have had, could only have had pederasty in mind" (122).
We cannot know what Paul would have said about the "contemporary model of
adult/adult mutuality in same sex relation ships" (122).

     In relating these terms to the context and to contemporary ethical
concerns, Scroggs emphasizes the point that the specific items in the list of
vices in I Cor 6 have no deliberate, intended meaning in Paul.  The form and
function of the catalogue of vices are traditional and stereotyped.  Any
relationship between an individual item in the list and the context was usually
nonexistent.  He concludes that Paul "does not care about any specific item in
the lists" (104).

     Both on the basis of the meaning of the terms and of the literary
phenomenon of a "catalogue of vices,"  Scroggs argues that the Scriptures are
"irrelevant and provide no help in the heated debate today" (129).  The "model
in today's Christian homosexual community is so different from the model
attacked by the NT" that "Biblical judgments against homosexuality are not
relevant to today's debate.  They should no longer be used in denominational
discussions about homosexuality, should in no way be a weapon to justify
refusal of ordination. . . " (127).

      REACTIONS TO THE NEW INTERPRETATIONS OF ARSENOKOITAI

D. Wright

     In more recent years the positions of Bailey, Boswell, and Scroggs have
come under closer scrutiny.   Perhaps the most critical evaluation of Boswell's
view is that by David Wright.  In his thorough article, Wright points out
several shortcomings of Boswell's treatment of arsenokoitai.   He faults
Boswell for failing to cite, or citing inaccurately, all the references to Lev
18:22 and 20:13 in the church fathers, such as Eusebius, the "Apostolic
Constitutions,"  Clement of Alexandria, Tertullian and Origen (127-28).
Boswell has not considered seriously enough the possibility that the term
derives either its form or its meaning from the Leviticus passages (129).  This
is significant, for if the term is so derived, it clearly refutes Boswell's
claim that the first half of the word (arseno-) denotes not the object but the
gender of the second half (-koitai).  The LXX must mean "a male who sleeps with
a male," making arseno- the object.

     Wright also faults Boswell's claims regarding linguistic features of the
term, including suggested parallels (129).  Though Boswell claims that
compounds with arseno- employ it objectively and those with arreno- employ it
as an adjective, Wright believes that the difference between the two is merely
one of dialectical diversity: "No semantic import attaches to the difference
between the two forms" (131).  Wright believes that in most compounds in which
the second half is a verb or has a verbal force, the first half denotes its
object and where "the second part is substantival, the first half denotes its
gender" (132).

     It is with Boswell's treatment of the early church fathers that Wright
takes special issue, because the former has failed to cite all the sources.
For example, Aristides' Apology (c. AD 138) probably uses arrenomaneis,
androbaten, and arsenokoitias all with the same basic meaning of male
homosexuality (133), contrary to Boswell's discussion.  Boswell fails to cite
Hippolytus (Refut. Omn. Haer. 5:26:22-23) and improperly cites Eusebius and the
Syriac writer Bardensanes.  The latter uses Syriac terms that are identical to
the Syriac of I Cor 6:9 and I Tim 1:10 (133-34).

     Next Wright shows how the early church fathers use arsenokoitai in
parallel with paidophthoria referring to male homosexuality with teenagers, the
dominant form of male homosexuality among the Greeks (134).  Sometimes this
parallelism occurs in the threefold listings of moicheia ("adultery"), porneia
("fornication"), and paidophthoria, with arsenokoitai replacing paidophthoris
(136).  Clement of Alexandria in Protr. 10:108:5 cites the second table of the
Ten Commandments as "You shall not kill, ou moicheuseis ("you shall not commit
adultery"), ou paidophthoreseis ("you shall not practice homosexuality with
boys"), you shall not steal. . ." (150 n. 43).

     Another occurrence of arsenokoitein ("commit homosexuality") exists in the
Sibylline Oracles 2:71-73.  It may be, Wright observes, that the word was
coined by a Jewish pre-Christian writer in a Hellenistic setting represented by
Or.Sib., book 2 (137-38).

     Wright also discusses uses of arsenokoitai in Rhetorius (6th c.) who drew
upon the first century AD writer Teucer, in Macarius (4th-5th c.), and in John
the Faster (d. 595) (139-40).  The last in particular bears the idea of
homosexual intercourse, contrary to Boswell.

     Wright next replies to Boswell's contention that the term would not be
absent "from so much literature about homosexuality if that is what it denoted
(140-41).  Wright points out that it should not be expected in writers prior to
the first century AD since it did not exist before then, that the Greeks used
dozens of words and phrases to refer to homosexuality, that some sources (e.g.
Didache) show no acquaintance with Paul's letters or deliberately avoid citing
Scripture, and that Boswell neglects citing several church fathers (140-41).

     Boswell's treatment of Chrysostom in particular draws Wright's attention
(141-44).  Boswell conspicuously misrepresents the witness of Chrysostom,
omitting references and asserting what is patently untrue.  Chrysostom gives a
long uncompromising and clear indictment of homosexuality in his homily on Rom
1:26.  Boswell has exaggerated Chrysostom's infrequent use of the term.  Wright
observes that Boswell has "signally failed to demonstrate any us of
arsenokoites etc. in which it patently does not denote male homosexual
activity" (144).  It is infrequent because of its relatively technical nature
and the availability of such a term as paidophthoria that more clearly
specified the prevailing form of male homosexuality in the Greco-Roman world.

     Wright also surveys the Latin, Syriac, and Coptic translations of I Tim
and I Cor.  All three render arsenokoitai with words that reflect the meaning
"homosexual" i.e., they understand arseno- as the object of the second half of
the word (144-45).  None of these primary versions supports Boswell's limited
conclusion based on them.

     Wright concludes his discussion with a few observations about the
catalogues of vices as a literary form.  He believes that such lists developed
in late Judaism as Hellenistic Jews wrote in clear condemnation of
homosexuality in the Greek world.  This paralleled the increased concern on the
part of moral philosophers over homosexual indulgence.  The term came into
being under the influence of the LXX (145) so that writers spoke "generally of
male activity with males rather than specifically categorized male sexual
engagement with paides" (146).  If arsenokoitai and paidophthoria were
interchangeable, it is because the former encompassed the latter (146).

     In summary, Wright seeks to show that arsenokoitai is a broad term meaning
homosexuality and arises with Judaism.   The views of Boswell, Scroggs, and
others who limit the term to "active male prostitutes" or pederasty are without
significant support from linguistic and historical studies.


Not to mention Computer Associates.  I'll have to be careful to stop telling
people I'm a Clipper programmer, they might lynch me... :-)


	   Are there any widgets, function
	   librarys for drawing networks,
	   graphs etc ? (Not tree views)
	   Freeware, shareware, comercial...
	   Like this, for instance:

	   [ pretty picture deleted ]

	   * Just by giving the associations
	     between the nodes. Automatic
	     layout generation.

	   * It would be nice if any node
	     symbols could be used. Maybe
	     even to insert widgets as nodes.

	   * Using different line styles etc.
	     for describing associations.

Check out the XmGraph library in the following location:

	iworks.ecn.uiowa.edu:/comp.hp/GUI_classic/XmGraph.tar.Z.


The only way to change ESPN's thinking, if it is even possible, is to complain
to them directly.  Anyone know there telephone # in Bristol, Ct?

I do find it hard to believe that ESPN doesn't think viewers will simply
change the channel from a boring game....I know I did.  And then, when
they didn't show the NYI-Wash overtime(s), I was livid!  If I wanted
to watch baseball, I could have turned on the Phillies-Padres extra
inning game....instead, I went to bed angry......I boycotted ESPN's
morning Sportscenter today, I was still so incensed.

My wife says I shouldn't go to bed angry, but last nite.........GRRRRRRR!


Muslims helping the Nazis???  Where on earth do you come up with such
accuusation??  Do you have proofs??  If not, you should publically apologize
for such a statement.  Last time I heard, the nazis prided themselves in
needing no body to carry their politics and ideologies.  And if your statment
were true, don't you think Israel would of used it to point to what a Muslim
neighbor (PALESTINE) could do to them if they allowed it to be?  The jewish
lobby and power is very strong, and if what you said is true, we would of
heard it from them before you could come up with it.
And you dare say that you are taking no sides!!


I want to run SPICE on my XT so I can learn more about amplifiers
and oscilators. Is there a version of this that will run on my XT
with no math co-processer, if so where can I get it? Thanks for any
and all help!

Jeff


While I can see why they want to cut down on the time spent walking around,
Gant wasn't ordered back in the box "sooner", he was ordered back immediately.
As soon as he stepped out, Hirschbeck told him to get back in the box.
Now, Gant doesn't take a lot of walks between pitches.  The only reason
he did then because he was *very* bothered by the call.  I expect his
concentration wasn't there yet, and in a crucial situation I imagine it's
best to be as calm as possible.  Contributing factors would be Gant's
bad day at the plate, bad year at the plate, and the Braves long scoring
drought.

Now, it's pretty stupid to go ahead and talk the walk when the umpire is
telling you to get in there.  You know the umpire is going to do something
(call for a strike, throw you out, etc.).  Gant was wrong.

But Hirschbeck was more wrong, in my biased view.  Aside from the major chip
he seemed to have on his shoulder, what was the problem.  Gant had a reason
to want some time (disputed strike call).  Gant hadn't been wasting time all
game.  The game had been cruising along, and was just over two hours old.
The score was 1-0, with 2 outs in the ninth and a runner in scoring position.
Is there *any* reason Hirschbeck couldn't, and shouldn't, cut Gant a little
slack?  For no discernible constructive reason, Hirschbeck disrupted the
game, caused a five minute delay, and materially hurt the batter in a key
situation.  Did he have a date to get to?

And I still wonder why Terry was tossed earlier in the game.
--
Dale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic


If it encouraged the runner to stretch his lead, it would probably
also result ina greater number of pickoffs. I think it would be a
workable rule, but it would probably be best to experiment in another
league before trying it in the bigs.


Ah well, another Brian Sutter team is ground into the dirt with intensity
during the regular season and then is burned out by playoff time.
Yah Fuhr has been awesome so far, but really you'd think Sutter would have
learned his lesson about pushing his team too far during the regular season.


I'm looking for algorithms or articles on virtual sound. What i want to do is
the following;

From a fast source, eg. a CDROM, several sound sources are read, each having
it's own defined position and other attributes, eg. direction etc.  Given the
listeners position and direction, the sum of sound played back in each of the
listeners earphones will be a function of this position and direction.  This
means that some simulation of the ears coloring of sound relative to it's
incoming direction have to be done for each sound source.  (I think this is
possible to do with a lookup table of impulse responses for several angles
relative to each ear, and interpolate an impulse function from this for a given
angle.  This impulse function could then be convoluted with the sound from the
source.  This impulse function must be changed every time some sound source
changes position or the listener changes orientation.)  Additionally some
reflection, diffusion and absorbtion due to the environment wich is defined
could be simulated, but this requires some sort of sound propagandation
simulation, kinda like some radiosity algorithm.

Have someone done this and/or written articles on implementing such a system?

Please post or mail any answers or comments.

--
Torgeir Veimo

Studying at the University of Bergen

"...I'm gona wave my freak flag high!" (Jimi Hendrix)


I am in the market to buy a used car. I am particularly
interested in the Pontiac Bonneville. My budget is between 7-
8 thousand. Would I be able to afford an 88 or 89. What
engines were available at this time. I know they didn't
redesign until the 1992 model year. How is the reliability of
past models. I would appreciate any advice or information.


In response to Jerry Lotto's post about not putting your helmet on your
mirror or else risk damaging the padding from the inside.

One of the major causes of mirror breakage is impact with the pavement.
Laws mandating that all mirrors be protected by helmets might be in order.
But seriously...

One place to put a helmet is on a, preferably clean, footpeg, hanging from
the chin-guard, away from any hot pipes.


	Again, tell us about it Ken!

-=- Andy -=-


Im looking to but a Sharp EL5200 Scientific calculator.

The model is discontinued, but if you know of any dealer which may have
them around, please reply.

Jason


Apollo (now HP) have a graphics board that does 80-bit graphics.  When I
heard that, I jumped.  The answer isn't that it can do 100 trillion-trillion-
trillion colors.  It actually does 10 planes of 8-bits (or 5 planes of 16
bits, etc.)  for very fast graphics.


I certainly agree with the last paragraph.  Also, Jesus;s statements on
hell can be treated as totally symbolic, allegorical or as parables, as
was much of his other teaching.  There's more than enough hell here on earth
that we are freed from by following Jesus that the rest just doesn't mattter
to me.  And the fact that we can be free of the hell here is the best gift
God offers.  Eternal life begins for us now and we do not wait to start
partaking of the divine nature and journeying on the path to deification.

Larry Overacker (llo@shell.com)
--


#
# >This issue has been going on for a while and your presentation here of
# >just one reference probably won't resolve this issue to those that
# >oppose your insistence that mosques *were* destroyed. Even in your
# >location of this one reference, you spend most of your quote dealing
# >with an incidence that, while abhorrant, has nothing to do with the
# >issue at hand here. Then, at the end of the quote, there is an almost
# >off-hand comment that "two mosques" were destroyed.
# >
# >To support a claim of this nature, what other authors support this
# >incident? If identifiable mosques were destroyed they are certainly
# >identifiable, they have names and addresses (steet location). The
# >comment by one reporter *does* make us wonder if "this happened" but
# >by no means "proves it.
#
# There is no doubt that Israeli authorities ordered the destruction of
# mosques in the vicinity of the Wailing Wall. That does not mean,
# however, that once can generalize from this to any other points.  The
# entire plaza, mosques and all, was cleared to make it possible for Jews
# to have a place to worship in the place that was holiest to many of
# them, and which had been denied to them for millenia.
#
# On the other hand, throughout the rest of Jerusalem and Israel, to the
# best of my knowledge, Israeli authorities have scrupulously avoided
# damage to any Islamic religious sites. This contrasts with the policies
# of previous regimes which destroyed Jewish synagogues out of hate and
# bigotry.

  Or, for that matter, with the USA.  Around here, nobody reroutes
  freeways to avoid churches, synagogues, and so forth.  They just
  get condemned, paid off, and the road goes through.  The same is
  standard policy for any number of other public projects: schools
  and sports arenas being only two examples.

  Anticipating the objection that the cases aren't comparable: how
  not?  The Wall has to count as the #1 tourist attraction in that
  part of the world; making room for the traffic would be a twenty
  second decision for any city council I ever heard of.


SOMEONE PLEASE BUY THESE BOOKS!!!!!  I AM NOT ASKING MUCH!!!!!!

JUST MAKE ME AN OFFER AND I WILL PROBABLY TAKE IT!!!!!

* Writing good software in Fortran, Graham Smith.

* The Holt Handbook by Kirszner & Mandell (copyright 1986) 720+ page writing guide.

* General Chemistry Principles & Modern Applications, R. Petrucci, fourth
  edition.  Big Book! Very good condition!

* Solutions manual for Chemistry book.  Paperback.

* Study guide for Chemistry book.  Paperback.

Send me your offers via email at 02106@chopin.udel.edu


I'm selling a bunch of my older 12" records off.  They are
sitting around collecting dust and I never use them.  I have used each
of these records, once, maybe twice if I didn't record the song I
wanted correctly the first time.  These records are in PERFECT
condition.  Please email me with the records you would want and what
you think a fair price is.  I will probably give deals, the more
records you buy.  Kinda capatalist isn't it.  Well give me a yell at
pagorm@iastate.edu with any comments.
						See ya
						Paul
	I have recieved a few questions as to what 12" are.  I guess I
should elaborate.  (???!!!! am I that old?)  They are just
maxi-singles on wax.  If I am correct most beat mixers still use this
form of record.  This is probably the kind of person interested in
this colllect or parts of it. Any questions call (515) 294-3737.
Thanks and see ya.
Artist			Song


Do the Isles have another defenseman to insert into the line-up besides
Pilon??? Once again, last night's STUPID penalty put the Isles in a hole for the
remainder of regulation and 2 minutes into overtime!!! Even though the Isles
nearly survived Pilon's blunder in regulation, it was the most inopportune time
for a 5-minute major penalty. Instead of confronting Cote as he came across the
blueline, Pilon backed up and swiped at Cote's nose with his stick. Al Arbour
can't be serious to think Pilon is the guy to have out there with the game on
the line??? I heard Scott LaChance is out till later in the series, but there
must be someone else!!! Bring back the BAMMER, Dave Langevin!!!!

*******************************LETS GO ISLANDERS********************************

John Scialdone
SCIALDONE@NSSDCA.GSFC.NASA.GOV


: But waiiiiiit, isn't Nissan officially registering the car as far as
: government paperwork goes, Nissan Stanza Altima, to avoid costly and
: lengthy paperwork? I read this on the net a while ago, and someone
: actually may have said there's a little Stanza logo on the Altima
: somewhere.

I just bought an Altima (and like it very much) and yes there is a
little Stanza logo ever so discretely placed on the trunk. The Altima is
emblazoned in big silver letters, but the itsy-bitsy Stanza is shunted
to the far left of the trunk lid. You can only see it if you get up
close to the car and know where to look. It is very inconspicuous.

In fact my first clue that this was a Stanza was that the owners manual
called the car a Nissan Stanza Altima.

Anybody know *why* Nissan did it this way?


Seen from a typographically point of view, ATM using PostScript fonts
is better than TrueType; the hinting mechanism incorporated in PS is
gorgeous.
Multilingual users may see the limit of possible different characters in
a PS font as problematically; they may have better use of the Unicode
features of TT fonts (in Windows NT).

I've seen *lots* of really beautiful and printable-in-small-size PS fonts;
I haven't seen those as TT fonts. Most of them are rendering quite
inaccurate (in small sizes, esp. as screen fonts).
Simply compare TimesNewRoman as a PS font with the TT font; the first
looks better.

I am hoping that there will be ATM/NT !


The Andrew Consortium
          of the School of Computer Science at Carnegie Mellon
                         is pleased to announce

                          AUIS 5.1.1 for AIX3.2
                                 4/26/93

The Andrew User Interface System version 5.1 (our CDrom version) was
developed for AIX  version 3.1 on the IBM RS/6000 and many other
platforms.  To accomodate AIX version 3.2, we have created a patch to
the sources.  The patch and accompanying instructions for its
application can be retrieved at no charge via anonymous-ftp from the
internet host emsworth.andrew.cmu.edu (128.2.45.40) in the directory
./aixpatch.  For those without internet access, a 3.5" diskette can be
ordered for $10 by sending, or faxing, a purchase order to the address
below.

The base 5.1 system can be ordered from us as a CDrom or ftp'ed from the
same host.

Note that this patch adds no additional functionality but simply allows
AUIS to compile under AIX3.2.

-----------

The Andrew User Interface System (AUIS) is a comprehensive environment
on top of X11 windows in which you can create, use, and mail multi-media
applications and documents.   A major advantage of AUIS is the
capability to recursively embed objects.  Thus, one can edit text that
not only contains multiple fonts, indentation, and other typography, but
also  contains embedded raster images, spreadsheets, drawing editors,
equations, simple animations, and so on. These embedded objects can
themselves contain other objects, including text.

AUIS has three components:

    The Andrew User Environment is an integrated and extensible set
    of applications beginning with the ez text editor, a help
    system, a system monitoring tool, an editor-based shell
    interface, and other editors corresponding to the various
    available types of objects.

    The Andrew Toolkit (ATK) is a portable, object-oriented
    user-interface toolkit that provides the architecture wherein
    objects can be embedded in one-another.  With the toolkit,
    programmers can create new objects that can be embedded as
    easily as those that come with the system.

    The Andrew Message System (AMS) provides a multi-media interface
    to mail and bulletin-boards.  AMS supports several mail
    management strategies and implements many advanced  features
    including authentication, return receipts, automatic sorting of
    mail, vote collection and tabulation, enclosures, audit trails
    of related messages, and subscription management. It also
    provides a variety of interfaces that support ttys and
    low-function personal computers in addition to high-function
    workstations.

The current public release of Andrew, Version 5.1,  includes support for
the new Internet MIME (Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions) standards
for multipart, multimedia mail.  A newer release, 5.2, for members of
the Andrew Consortium has numerous additional features including new
editors for drawings, images, fonts, and user preferences.

Remote Andrew Demo Service

You can try out Andrew from your own work station via the Remote Andrew
Demo Service.  You need a host machine on the Internet running the X11
window system.  You'll be able to compose multimedia documents, navigate
through the interactive Andrew Tour, and use the Andrew Message System
to browse through a few of CMU's four thousand bulletin boards and
newsgroups.

To get started with the Remote Andrew Demo service, simply run the
following command on your machine:

	finger help@atk.itc.cmu.edu

The service will give you further instructions.

More information about Andrew is available from:

    Information Requests
    Andrew Consortium
    Carnegie Mellon University
    Smith Hall 106
    5000 Forbes Avenue
    Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3890
    USA
    phone: +1-412-268-6710
    fax: +1-412-682-6938
    info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu


I have just upgraded from a Trident TVGA9000 to an ATI Graphics Ultra (the
old mach8 chip).  I am quite pleased with the performance so far, but have
one problem.  When using windows in 800x600, I have noticed that the
tile bars and scroll bars are significantly larger than they were when I
was using the Trident card.  Is there a setting in my .ini files that I can
change to make these smaller ?  I could not find the FAQ for this list...

		--Mike


Does anyone know whether the _Acta Sanctorum_, the huge multi-volume collection
of Roman Catholic hagiography produced by the Bollandists, has ever been
translated into English?  I'm working on the _Vita S. Dympnae_ and would love
to be able to check my own translation against somebody else's.

Email replies preferred, unless this query turns out to be of general interest.


Invitation to the 8th SCIA

The 8th Scandinavian Conference on Image Analysis will be
arranged by the Norwegian Society for Image Processing and
Pattern Recognition (NOBIM) and sponsored by the International
Association for Pattern Recognition (IAPR). The conference
will be held in Tromsoe from 25th-28th May 1993. Tromsoe,
located at latitude 69 degrees N, is Northern Norway's centre
for administration and education.

About the Programme
The scientific programme runs over four days and includes
6 invited speakers, 29 sessions in three parallel tracks
with 127 contributed papers and 4 poster sessions with 44
contributions. The conference covers the following topics:
  - Image Processing and Analysis
  - Pattern Recognition
  - Computer Vision
  - Parallel Algorithms and Architectures
  - Neural Nets
  - Matching Methods
  - Image Compression
  - Remote Sensing
  - Medical and Biological Applications
  - Industrial Applications

Conference Language
The official language of the conference is English.

Invited Talks and Speakers

Segmentation of Range Images Via Data
Fusion and Morphological Watersheds.
Professor Ralph Gonzalez
University of Tennessee, Knoxville

Object Recognition Using Range Images.
Professor Anil K. Jain
Michigan State University

Experiments in Mobile Robot Navigation and Range Imaging.
Dr. Judd Jones
Oak Ridge National Laboratory

Image Compression.
Professor Tor Ramstad
University of Trondheim

Combining Evidence in Dictionary
Based Probabilistic Relaxation.
Professor J. Kittler
University of Surrey

Matching Methods.
Professor A. Sanfeliu
Polytechnic University of Catalonia

Workshop
In connection with the conference, a workshop on contextual
methods in pattern recognition will be arranged on monday
24th by IAPR TC1. For further information concerning the
workshop contact
Torfinn Taxt, Chairman TC1,
Univ. of Bergen,
N-5000 Bergen,
Norway.
Phone: +47 5 20 63 34
Fax: +47 5 20 63 60
E-mail: Torfinn.Taxt@cc.uib.no

Registration Information
The registration fee is 4000 NOK. The fee covers proceedings, entrance
to all oral and poster sessions, exhibition, lunches and coffee
breaks, get-together party, reception and banquet. Fees for
accompanying persons are presented in the registration form.
All payments must be made payable in Norwegian Kroner (NOK)
by SWIFT to "XIANNOKKTRM" or Bank Giro Service at Bank Account:
6420 05 13353, "SAS Conference FORUT", Christiania Bank og
Kreditkasse (Private cheques will not be accepted.) or by the
following credit cards: VISA,  Mastercard, Eurocard, Diners,
Access, American Express.
Please note: For payment with SWIFT and Bank Giro Service made
             from abroad, please add banking fee of NOK 60,-.
Please remember to state 8SCIA and your name on all money
transfers!

Registration and Information
The Conference Secretariat will be available all four days of
the conference for registration and information
May 24th, 1600:2000, in the SAS Hotel.
May 25th-28th,       at the University.

Exhibition
An exhibition of relevant literature will be arranged.
Publishers are invited to exhibit their products. A visit
to local companies and institutions involved in the field
(mostly remote sensing) will be arranged.

Accommodation
Reservation for hotel accommodation can be made on the
registration form. The 8SCIA Conference Secretariat at
SAS Luftreisebyraa, att. Bodil Lauritsen, will provide
hotel accommodation for the participants.

Social Events
Monday, May 24th:
Get-together party. (included in the conference fee for
delegates, NOK 150,- for accompanying persons)

Tuesday, May 25th
Fishing trip. The tour will last for 5-6 hours and hopefully
the midnight sun will visit us. On board the boat there will
be music, food and drink by choice. We bring fishing rods and
it will be possible to have our own fish prepared on board.
(NOK 400,-)
Spouse programme: Visit by cable car to Storsteinen 420 meters
above sea level, visit to the Arctic Cathedral, and visit to
Tromsoe Museum. (NOK 205,-)

Wednesday, May 26th
Due to the cancellation of the Svalbard flight we will arrange
a visit to the "Beerhall". (NOK 350,- including beer and food.)
Spouse programme: Visit to a fishfarm in the surroundings of
Tromsoe. (NOK 170,-)

Thursday, May 27th
Banquet. (Included in the conference fee for delegates,
accompanying persons NOK 500,- )
Spouse programme: Visit to the Northern Lights Planetarium and
the Polar Museum. (NOK 180,-)
The spouse programs need a minimum of 15 participants to be
arranged.

Post conference tours with visit to Lyngen or Finnmark and
Norh Cape will also be arranged. For more information about
the social program and the post conference tours see the
registration form and information included with the
registration form.

Weather and Dress
The weather in Tromsoe in late May can be everything from
24 hour sunshine with a maximum temperature of 20 degrees Celsius
to snowstorms with temperatures below freezing. It is
therefore recommended to bring some warmer clothes.

Local Information
The population is approximately 50 000. In Tromsoe you can take
part in many activities from mountaineering in the midnight
sun to late night fun in international restaurants and bars.
An afternoon local beer in the Beerhall of the world's
northernmost brewery is also recommended.

The 8th Scandinavian Conference on Image Analysis (8SCIA) will
be held at the university campus at the world's northernmost
university. There will be conference buses going to the campus
from within walking distances of all the hotels. More detailed
information about the locations and transport will be available
at the conference hotels.

Travel Information
Tromsoe Airport at Langnes is only 7-8 minutes drive from the
centre of Tromsoe. The travelling distance from Oslo is 1 hr
40 minutes. SAS Conference Support Tromsoe offers airticket
services for the conference. In addition to all standard terms
full and reduced fare tickets from Europe and overseas,
(reduced fares require that you stay in Scandinavia the night
between Saturday and Sunday), we can offer additional conference
fares for SAS flights from SAS destinations within Scandinavia,
and reduced fares on Norwegian domestic flights. If you want to
make use of this service please contact Bodil Lauritsen at the
Conference Secretariat.

Conference Secretariat
   SAS Luftreisebyraa Tromsoe
   Att.: Bodil Lauritsen
   P. O Box 437
   N-9001 Tromsoe
   Norway
   Phone: +47 83 10 700
   Fax: +47 83 10 701

Note that reduced airticket fares can not be obtained on flights to
Scandinavia if you don't stay the night between Saturday and Sunday
(in front of or after the conference). On the other hand you don't have
to stay that night in Tromso to obtain reduced fares within Scandinavia
(SAS flights).

<------------------------------- cut here ------------------------------>

                           REGISTRATION FORM
          The 8'th Scandinavian Conference on Image Analysis
                Tromso, Norway, May 25th-28th 1993

Please use block letters or type, and fill in one form for each parti-
cipant. Completed registration form for accompanying person is to be
attached to the registration form of the delegate.
                                                              Mr  <>
                                                              Mrs <>

First name and surname:.............................................

Company/Institution:................................................

Title:..................

Mailing address:...................................................

Postal code/Country:...............................................

Telephone:....................Telefax:.............................

Delegate: <>  Accompanying person: <>  (please tick for right category)

Workshop on contextual methods in pattern recognition,
                                     Monday, May 24th: <>

Conference fee, delegates:                          NOK 4000,-  ->

Social events  (please tick for participating!)
<> Get-together Party, Monday 24th
   (Included in the conference fee for delegates)
   Accompanying person                              NOK  150,-  ->
<> Spouse Programme, Tuesday, May 25th  *           NOK  205,-  ->
<> Spouse Programme, Wednesday, May 26th  *         NOK  170,-  ->
<> Spouse Programme, Thursday, May 27th  *          NOK  180,-  ->
<> Boat-trip, Tuesday, May 25th                     NOK  400,-  ->
<> Banquet, Thursday, May 27th
   (Included in the conference fee for delegates)
   Accompanying person                              NOK  500,-  ->
<> Visit to the Beerhall, Wednesday, May 26th *     NOK  350,-  ->
<> Post Conference Tour, Lyngen *                   NOK  895,-  ->
<> Post Conference Tour, Finnmark/North Cape *      NOK 4250,-  ->
(* we need a minimum number of participants to
   accomplish these tours)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Total amount for my participation:                          NOK ____________

PAYMENT:
Payment can be made by: SWIFT to "XIANNOKKTRM" or
Bank Giro Service at Bank Account: 6420 05 13353, "SAS Conference FORUT",
Christiania Bank og Kreditkasse, Gronnegt. 80, N-9000 Tromso, Norway.
(Private cheques will not be accepted.) or by credit card:
 VISA <>  Mastercard <> Eurocard <>  Diners <> Access <> American Express <>

Account Number:___________________________ Expiration Date:________________

Signature:____________________________________________

Please note: For payment with SWIFT and Bank Giro Service made from abroad,
             please add banking fee of NOK 60,-.
Please remember to state 8SCIA and your name on all money transfers!

ACCOMODATION:
  (Payment to be made upon arrival)
(Weekend=  Friday-Sunday).
Deadline for cancellation of the hotel room: 24 hours before arrival.

If you would like us to book your accomodation in Tromso, please fill in:

Date of arrival:____________________  Date of departure:____________________
SAS Royal Hotel      <> Single a 1190,-     <> Double a 1390,-
                         (weekend 750,-)        (weekend 900,-)
Grand Nordic Hotel   <> Single a 1015,-     <> Double a 1175,-
                         (weekend 760,-)        (weekend 880,-)
With Home Hotel      <> Single a  975,-     <> Double a 1085,-
SAGA Hotel           <> Single a  870,-     <> Double a 1045,-
Polar Hotel          <> Single a  680,-     <> Double a  800,-
                         (weekend 450,-)        (weekend 550,-)
Tromso Hotel         <> Single a  680,-     <> Double a  800,-
                         (weekend 450,-)        (weekend 550,-)
Skipperhuset Pension <> Single a  330,-     <> Double a  410,-
                                            <> Triple a  480,-
Hotel Nord           <> Single a  300,-     <> Double a  400,-
                                            <> Triple a  500,-
Private Accomodation <> Single a  150,-     <> Double a  200,-

I will arrange accomodation on my own: <>
If my first choice is not available, I wish to stay at:_____________________

Airtickets: SAS Conference Support Tromso offers airticket services for the
conference. In addition to all standard terms full and reduced fare tickets
from Europe and overseas, (reduced fares require that you stay in Scandinavia
the night between Saturday and Sunday), we can offer additional conference
fares for SAS flights from SAS destinations within Scandinavia, and reduced
fares on norwegian domestic flights. If you want to make use of this service
please fill in the following:

Point of departure and return:______________________________________________

Date of departure:___________________  Date of return: _____________________
I will arrange airtickets on my own: <> (Please tick!)

              For further information, please contact:
                Kjell Arild Hogda, 8SCIA Local Chair,
       FORUT Information technology Ltd, N-9005 Tromso, Norway.
           Telephone: +47 83 58622. Telefax: +47 83 82420
                   e-mail: scia@conan.uit.no

             Please forward this registration form to:
          SAS Luftreisebyra Tromso, Att: Bodil Lauritsen
               P.O. Box 437, N-9001 Tromso, Norway,
          Telephone: +47 83 10700. Telefax: +47 83 10701


released

here we go again...
now these are just rumors.. so dont quote me.

New Integra supposedly wedge shaped again.  175 hp and all-wheel drive
in top models.  Then a variant called the zx-r comes later. (roadster?).

i think it gets unveiled at end of summer.


My Kawasaki KZ 750 L4 has 2-3 millimetres of play on the gearchange
pedal axle, in other words, I can move the axle sideways & up-and-down
for few millimetres to each direction. This doesn't bother me when
riding, but I guess fixing it wouldn't hurt. Last summer I took the
bike to a shop to have the valves adjusted, and the mechanic mentioned
that it should be an easy job. All I would have to do is to remove the
front sprocket cover and replace a bushing or a seal that I would find
there. Well, upon a closer inspection I discovered that the gearchange
axle doesn't even run through the sprocket cover. It seems that, in
addition to removing the cover, I would have at least to remove the
sprocket and then the cover that is behind the sprocket.

Question : Would removing this small cover from the left side of the
engine enable me to lay my hands on that bushing/seal (Don't know the
exact term in english, sorry) ?

Question : Has anybody done this disassembly job for this or some
other purpose ? Does the oil, for example, stay inside the engine ?

Thanks !


Hello,

I have a problem with X11R5 on a Sun386i an I hope that someone can help
me with it.
I've built X from the MIT sources after applying all patches I have got (I
think 23). Building was easy. After installing everything I started X but
nothing happened but the screen and the keyboard freezed, the machine seemed
to hang. I loged in from another machine an found the Sun386i running well.
'ps' told me that there's a X-server and a xterm running. And with some
experimenting with the mouse and repeatedly pressing ^D I blindly hit the
xterm, endet the session and got my prompt back.
I guess it's a device problem but I did not find the correct device yet.
I've got a Sun386i with a b/w framebuffer (ACE-6 0688 94V-0, Rev 53)
SunOS 4.0.2 and ROM 4.4.
Please help me. I'm able to run clients on the Sun and send the output to
other machines but that's not what I did it for.


and guess which game ESPN is showing in my area on Thursday - yep,
Pens-Devils.  There are so many other interesting series, who cares
about Mario???


As per various threads on science and creationism, I've started dabbling into a
book called Christianity and the Nature of Science by JP Moreland.  A question
that I had come from one of his comments.  He stated that God is not
necessarily a religious term, but could be used as other scientific terms that
give explanation for events or theories, without being a proven scientific
fact.  I think I got his point -- I can quote the section if I'm being vague.
The examples he gave were quarks and continental plates.  Are there
explanations of science or parts of theories that are not measurable in and of
themselves, or can everything be quantified, measured, tested, etc.?

MAC
--
****************************************************************
                                                    Michael A. Cobb
 "...and I won't raise taxes on the middle     University of Illinois
    class to pay for my programs."                 Champaign-Urbana
          -Bill Clinton 3rd Debate             cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu


They bein' themfolk who tend to compose fair piece of the population;
bein the ones that regard bikers as a loud, irresponsible, irreverent,
reprobate rabble.
Sure you didn't rape and pillage-- It's a relief to know that you were
such gentlemen-- but because you were not completely out-of-hand you
justify your lesser indescretions?  Some pretty distorted thinking, I
should say.
Oh-- I'm sorry, I just noticed that you left mucho bucks (as in MONEY)...
Nevermind my criticism, I was out of line.  I forgot that when one leaves
mucho bucks (as in MONEY) their behavior is permissable, perhaps even
justified.

Keep in mind that "themfolks" are the ones that could give a %$#@! when
a biker gets killed, when *their* elected officials institute further
draconian legislation (helmet laws, gun controls, etc.), the ones that don't
respect our rights on the roads because we do not respect theirs all "the
rest of the time..."
Need I continue?

So continue to wear your stigma as a badge, but the next time you are
whining about "them" and the effect of their values on yours, remember
that it was probably the behavior of self-righteous wusses like myself
that kept "them" at bay for this long.

Enjoy,


	The Viper isn't an Inline 10 or Flat 10, is it?  I'm pretty sure its
a V-10.  Also, the Cizeta??? is a V-16, but it may not yet be more than a
dream...


Okay, the Caps AGAIN are about to break out the golf clubs but before they
do, does anyone have the history of the Washington Capitals' futility
record in the playoffs? I remember that Terry's first year was the first
year that the Caps finally made it to the third round but before under
Brian, I noticed that every other year the Caps got to the second round
and the years in between they didn't make it past the first round. Is this
trend continuning?
The Admiral, a hopeless Caps fan.
P.S. We still remember that 3 OT loss to the Islanders! Aurggghhhhhhhhh!
____________________________________________________________________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Quoting amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker) in article <1rn1b3$khb@news.intercon.com>:


A friend recorded CNN news during the gassing and incineration of
the BD's.  I went through it carefully today, and found something
very interesting.  A tank is pulling out of the house, and there
is a fireball, maybe 24" across that lasts for about 1 second.
Exactly ten minutes and thirty nine seconds later, the smoke starts
billowing out of that area of the building.
Now, I'm no govt. spokestwinkie, so it might really have been a
weather balloon or something.  Perhaps someone would check it out
and comment.


I would put it stronger than that.  I consider it nonsense.

Simply put, I do not see any way that a "Platonic essence" could have
any *real* existance.  "Essence" in the Platonic sense does not have
any referent as far as I can tell - it is just an imaginary concept
invented to provide an explanation for things better explained in
other ways.

So, to attribute an 'essence' to God is to attribute to him something that
does not exist!!  Thus the orthodox Platonic formulation seems to leave
the unity of God in limbo, since it is based on a non-existant 'essence',
thus failing to avoid the very problem it was supposed to address.

Thus, to me, the unity of God must be primary, and the triality must be
secondary, must be modal or aspectual (relating to roles, or to modes
of interaction), since otherwise there is no meaning to saying God is one.

--
sarima@teradata.com			(formerly tdatirv!sarima)
  or
Stanley.Friesen@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com


Well, as a hockey fan, I think it's terrible. It's one thing to say, "Hey,
let's give a hockey team to cities that don't have one!" -- that's fine. It's
entirely another to say, "Okay, let's take a team from a thriving hockey town
and move it!"

Of course, none of us will ever know the real inside story, but
from what I know, a group of Minneapolis businessmen told Green repeatedly that
they would purchase the remaining 3600 (?) season tickets to get to the 10,000
level that Green wanted, yet he refused every time. It's pretty obvious that he
was determined to get out of Minneapolis at any cost and use the season tickets
thing as an excuse.

I was fortunate enough to get to the penultimate game, and
the fans were great! People were tailgating and playing roller hockey in the
parking lot before the game, the attendance was so full as to have SRO, and the
whole atmosphere in the Centre was terrific. Minnesota IS Hockey, USA. How the
NHL can so blithely let the major league team from there move away is beyond
me. I only hope they get a new team soon.

Just my $0.02.

-- Ali.


My (then) wife used to get recurrent yeast infections. One day, her
doctor sent her home with medication for her and a pill for me. I took
the pill, upon her insistence, and was very relieved the next day when I
looked it up in the PDR. It only RARELY causes testicular atrophy...


hi,

try DontZap in /usr/lib/X11/Xconfig

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	styx


Parts of Sen. Biden's statement were quoted by the Washington Post today:

   Let me put it plainly, Mr. Secretary.  You are required to speak
   diplomatically; I am not.  I cannot even begin to express to you
   my contempt for a European policy that is now asking us to
   participate in what amounts to a codification of the Serbian victory.
   ...
   What you have encountered is a discouraging mosaic of indifference,
   timidity, self-delusion and hypocrisy.
   ...
   After they held our coats on Kuwait and Somalia, they are asking us
   to put in a few thousand troops on the ground in order to have the
   right to speak and in order to implement their new idea of 'safe
   havens' for the Bosnians...
   Let's not mince words.  European policy is based on cultural and
   religious indifference, if not bigotry.  And I think it's fair to say
   that this would be an entirely different situation if the Muslims
   were doing what the Serbs have done, if this was Muslim aggression
   instead of Serbian aggression.

Too bad the Washington Post did not include his next sentence, which
pointed out that a consequence of such policy is a rising anger
within the Islamic world, the consequences of which we cannot begin
to predict.  Later, Biden told a reporter why he spoke out:

   I think someone has to respond to Europe to make it clear
   this is a big deal... so they will understand.

and it IS a big deal.  By refusing the fundamental human right of
self-defense to Bosnia-Herzegovina, Europe and the world have
aided the Serbian aggression.  Moreover, the arms embargo has
forced a situation in which Bosnian Serbs have 10 times more heavy
weaponry than Bosnian Croats and Muslims combined.  Under such
conditions, it is very easy for Serbs to play a "divide-and-conquer"
game, and to get the Muslims and Croats (who have strong common
interests and who were allied against the Serbian aggression)
to start fighting each other, which leads to their mutual catastrophe.

One final quote:  U.S. Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, has
said in Rome last week that "In practice, the embargo had the opposite
effect intended.  It made aggression certain."

All diplomats who deluded themselves that they could negotiate peace
while enforcing a 10:1 imbalance of power on the ground have contributed
to this tragedy.


Hello,

does anyone know about allergic reactions caused by the developer/toner
of laser printers? What chemical stuff is involved?

Thanks in advance!

Reinhard


Yes it has to be very clear (like it wasn't there).  And of course, cost is
always a factor.  I am trying to get an idea of the feasability of such an
idea.  But I don't want to give too much away.


    First, a tank drove through the wall into the living room.

    I can't stop thinking about the children who were inside
    the house (the room?) at the time.

    How many people got killed during the Tiannamen Square events?

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*** On 04-19-93  03:53, Wayne Mcdougall had the unmitigated gall to say this:

 WM> The software is Netware 286 Level II and I can see burnt on to the
 WM> screen SFT Netware 286 Level II V2.0a. However, to configure netware
 WM> for level II (mirrored or duplexed disks) requires a second disk, yes?

 Yes.  Mirroring requires a controller that is capable of writing to two
 disks at once.  Duplexing, which is the preferred way of mirroring, uses
 two controller cards and two disk drives.  Duplexing requires a special
 card and two identical disk drives (in most cases).  Duplexing can
 sometimes be pulled off with slightly different drives/controllers, as long
 as the sizes are the same.

 WM> So how is the Novell Server 286A normally configured?

 The configuration is completely up to the user.

 WM> 1. Can I install SFT Netware 286 Level II V2.0a as Level I, or is this
 WM> what is causing my serialization error?

 If you only have one disk, then you can't use Level II SFT.  However, the
 OSOBJ disk has a serial number on it, and if this disk is for a different
 version of NetWare then you would get a serialization error.  Make sure
 that this disk actually belongs to the rest of the set of floppies in the
 NetWare installation set.

 WM> 2. Is the Novell Server 286A normally equipped with two hard drives,
 WM> one of which has failed?

 Two drives could be either two netware volumes at SFT I, or one volume
 mirrored using SFT II.  Impossible to tell with the network being down.

 WM> 3. Would this mean I can not install the network software because it
 WM> will not be serialized for this hardware with a failed drive?

 Try disconnecting the failed drive, using a standard disk controller, and
 installing the software as one volume under SFT I.  If the software will
 install, and if the one disk is functional, then it should be able to work
 in this configuration.

 WM> 4. What else can cause a serialization error?

 See the comment concerning the serial number on the OSOBJ installation
 floppy.

 WM> 5. What happens if the keycard fails?

 What is the keycard attached to?

... Line noise provided by South Central Bell!
--- Blue Wave/QWK v2.10


I, too, put a corbin seat on my Hawk.  I got the solo seat (which
could carry a passenger for a short distance) and it is 100%
better than the stock seat.  No longer does my voice squeak after
the ride to work.


   > >  What  evidence  indicates that Gamma Ray bursters are very far away?

   > >Given the enormous  power,  i was just wondering,  what if they are
   > >quantum  black holes or something  like that  fairly close by?

   > >Why would they have to be at  galactic ranges?

   . . . David gives good explaination of the deductions from the isotropic,
   'edged' distribution, to whit, they are either part of the Universe or
   part of the Oort cloud.

   Why couldn't they be Earth centred, with the edge occuring at the edge
   of the gravisphere? I know there isn't any mechanism for them, but there
   isn't a mechanism for the others either.

What on Earth is the "gravisphere"?
Anyway, before it's decay the Pioneer Venus Orbiter
had a gamma ray detector, as does Ulysses, they
detect the brightest bursts that the Earth orbit detectors
do, so the bursts are at least at Oort cloud distances.
In principle four detectors spaced out by a few AU would
see parallax if the bursts are of solar system origin.

_The_ problem with Oort cloud sources is that absolutely
no plausible mechanism has been proposed. It would have
to involve new physics as far as I can tell. Closest to
"conventional" Oort sources is a model of B-field pinching
by comets, it's got too many holes in it to count, but at
least it was a good try...


Danny...

While working on my shareware toolbar, I found myself 'eating' resources,
and a very wise person pointed me to the SDK, and specifically the debug
kernel. Once you have all the SDK stuff installed, (this also comes with
VC++), you run 'n2d' which does a 'normal-to-debug' swap. The debug kernel
runs C O N S I D E R A B L Y slower, but you then execute the command
DBWIN, and let it report to you what is going on. You are going to find
out a lot more about your Apps than you cared to, and possibly about other
peoples Apps (is that OPA?..I'm sorry).

If this doesn't make sense, repost, or e-mail me

dave

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That'll teach me not to qualify my statements...

OK, something to shoot for.  The Royals will score 531 runs or less
this season (although they just decided to get McRae out of the
leadoff spot :-( )

Of course, Valentine will throw this one back in my face when the
Royals even manage to outscore another AL team.

Sean


I have a problem with the wallpaper on my desktop, in 1024x768x256 mode.
For bitmap files bigger than about 512k (slightly less sometimes depending
on the exact dimensions), the wallpaper display is badly corrupted.  The
rest of the desktop is fine.  For wallpaper bitmaps smaller than this, I
have no problem.  I have a friend who has an 800k bitmap which he has no
problems with, so it is possible.  It is also possible to display these
bitmaps using CShow in 1024x768x256 mode with no problem, so the video
card is not at fault.

How can I remedy this?

My system:

     386DX40, 4Mb ram.
     DOS 6.0, Windows 3.1.
     Oak 1Mb 077 Video card, 1024x768x256 mode, using supplied drivers.
     Windows has a permanent 11,288kb swap file.

Please reply via e-mail, and _use the address in my .sig_, as our post
software always seems to mangle the address in the header.

    Thanks,
          Mazz.


Could someone give me some info on Soft PC.   How does it work?
What kind of performance can I expect? Can you run windows under it adequately?
Any info if appreciated.


You need to run FDISK.


You could do what I do: never go near the stuff!  :)


Wondering if somebody could tell me if we can change the cluster size of
my IDE drive.  Normally I can do it with Norton's Calibrat on MFM/RLL drives
but dunno if I can on IDE too.


The difference is that the 16550 got bugs while the 16550A can be used
whithout problems even in fast serial communications. Other sources
say that only the 16550AFN from Nat Semi (i.e. not: second sources)
is really OK.

Best wishes


:     This may be an FAQ (if so, please direct me to the known answer) but I
:     am getting frustrated and looking for help.
:
:     I am running Win 3.1 with NDW 2.2 on a 486sx with 8 meg of memory and a
:     6 meg perm swap file and am getting exceedingly frustrated that my
:     applications are not giving back system resources when I close them.
:
I've noticed this also.  The way it was explained to me is that Windows
does not clear the upper memory blocks after a program is done.  Anyone
out there know if this is why?


Depression can also have various chemical (environmental) components.
I noticed that I became depressed in various buildings, and at home
when the air conditioning was on. Subsequent testing revealed that
I was allergic to stemphyllium, a mold commonly found in air conditioners.
After I began taking antigens, that problem disappeared.