  I laugh at you now, and I will laugh at you again, equally publicly,
when the Jays finish third due to the severe depletion of their talent.
I think Bill James put it best (about Sparky Anderson, _Abstract_ 1983):

"There are a million guys in this country with great attitudes, but there
are only about five hundred who can play a major league brand of baseball;
which are you going to take?"


I beg to differ, he had a couple 3 hit games after he came back.  He did
get caught stealing though.  He also missed sunday's game.  Did he play
tonight?  If not, I'm worried.  He's on my team too.


They are using some technology developed by VLSI systems, the other manufacturer of
the Clipper Chips, that produces chips that are supposed to be highly resistant to
reverse engineering.

--


I need a graphics display program that can take as a parameter the name of
the file to be displayed, then just display that image and then quit.

All of the other graphics display programs come up with a menu first or some
other silliness.

This program is going to be run from within another program.  I have lots of
memory and VGA color.  Any graphics format will do.  Has anyone heard of such
a beast?

					Keith


Well, you were going well until you hit this one.

Hawaii was an independent country.  A coup by Americans led to a request to
annex it.  The US refused, but eventually did annex it several years later
during the Spanish-American War.
--
"On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Leftover Turkey!
On the second day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Turkey Casserole
    that she made from Leftover Turkey.
[days 3-4 deleted] ...  Flaming Turkey Wings! ...
   -- Pizza Hut commercial (and M*tlu/A*gic bait)


Typical 'virvir' drivel. People will think you're just some
looney howling in the wires. If you think that this 'clears
things up' for me or anyone else, you must also believe that
aliens from outer space come to earth regularly and abduct
'Arromdians' of ASALA/SDPA/ARF for medical experiments. There
is stronger evidence for *that* you know.

'Propagandist leaflets'? This is an American officer on the
genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people by the Armenians between
1914 and 1920, not a crook/idiot like yourself.

Source: "World Alive, A Personal Story" by Robert Dunn. Crown Publishers,
Inc., New York (1952).
(Memoirs of an American officer who witnessed the Armenian genocide of 2.5
 million Muslim people)

p. 361 (seventh paragraph) and p. 362 (first paragraph).

 'The most are inside houses. Come you and look.'
 'No, dammit! My stomach isn't-'
 'One is a Turkish officer in uniform. Him you must see.'
 "We were under those trees by the mosque, in an open space....
 'I don't believe you," I said, but followed to a nail-studded door. The
  man pushed it ajar, then spurred away, leaving me to check on the corpse.
  I thought I should, this charge was so constant, so gritted my teeth and
  went inside.

 The place was cool but reeked of sodden ashes, and was dark at first, for
 its stone walls had only window slits. Rags strewed the mud floor around an
 iron tripod over embers that vented their smoke through roof beams black
 with soot. All looked bare and empty, but in an inner room flies buzzed. As
 the door swung shut behind me I saw they came from a man's body lying face
 up, naked but for its grimy turban. He was about fifty years old by what
 was left of his face - a rifle butt had bashed an eye. The one left slanted,
 as with Tartars rather than with Turks. Any uniform once on him was gone, so
 I'd no proof which he was, and quickly went out, gagging at the mess of his
 slashed genitals."

p. 363 (first paragraph).

 'How many people lived there?'
 'Oh, about eight hundred.' He yawned.
 'Did you see any Turk officers?'
 'No, sir. I was in at dawn. All were Tartar civilians in mufti.'

 "The lieutenant dozed off, then I, but in the small hours a voice woke me -
 Dro's. He stood in the starlight bawling out an officer. Anyone keelhauled
 so long and furiously I'd never heard. Then abruptly Dro broke into
 laughter, quick and simple as child's. Both were a cover for his sense
 of guilt, I thought, or hoped. For somehow, despite my boast of irreligion,
 Christian massacring 'infidels' was more horrible than the reverse would
 have been.

 From daybreak on, Armenian villagers poured in from miles around.....
 The women plundered happily, chattering like ravens as they picked over
 the carcass of Djul. They hauled out every hovel's chattels, the last
 scrap of food or cloth, and staggered away, packing pots, saddlebags,
 looms, even spinning-wheels.

 'Thank you for a lot, Dro,' I said to him back in camp. 'But now I must
 leave.'...We shook hands, the captain said 'A bientot, mon camarade.' And
 for hours the old Molokan scout and I plodded north across parching plains.
 Like Lot's wife I looked back once to see smoke bathing all, doubtless in
 a sack of other Moslem villages up to the line of snow that was Iran.'"

p. 354.

"At morning tea, Dro and his officers spread out a map of this whole
 high region called the Karabakh. Deep in tactics, they spoke Russian,
 but I got their contempt for Allied 'neutral' zones and their distrust
 of promises made by tribal chiefs. A campaign shaped; more raids on
 Moslem villages."

p. 358.

"It will be three hours to take," Dro told me. We'd close in on three
 sides.
"The men on foot will not shoot, but use only the bayonets," Merrimanov
said, jabbing a rifle in dumbshow.
"That is for morale," Dro put in. "We must keep the Moslems in terror."
"Soldiers or civilians?" I asked.
"There is no difference," said Dro. "All are armed, in uniform or not."
"But the women and children?"
"Will fly with the others as best they may."

p. 360.

"The ridges circled a wide expanse, its floors still. Hundreds of feet
 down, the fog held, solid as cotton flock. 'Djul lies under that,' said
 Dro, pointing. 'Our men also attack from the other sides.'

 Then, 'Whee-ee!' - his whistle lined up all at the rock edge. Bayonets
 clicked upon carbines. Over plunged Archo, his black haunches rippling;
 then followed the staff, the horde - nose to tail, bellies taking the
 spur. Armenia in action seemed more like a pageant than war, even though
 I heard our Utica brass roar.

 As I watched from the height, it took ages for Djul to show clear. A tsing
 of machine-gun fire took over from the thumping batteries; cattle lowed,
 dogs barked, invisible, while I ate a hunk of cheese and drank from a snow
 puddle. Mist at last folded upward as men shouted, at first heard faintly.
 The came a shrill wailing.

 Now among the cloud-streaks rose darker wisps - smoke. Red glimmered about
 house walls of stone or wattle, into dry weeds on roofs. A mosque stood in
 clump of trees, thick and green. Through crooked alleys on fire, horsemen
 were galloping after figures both mounted and on foot.

 'Tartarski!' shouted the gunner by me. Others pantomimed them in escape
 over the rocks, while one twisted a bronze shell-nose, loaded, and yanked
 breech-cord, firing again and again. Shots wasted, I thought, when by
 afternoon I looked in vain for fallen branch or body. But these shots and
 the white bursts of shrapnel in the gullies drowned the women's cries.

 At length all shooting petered out. I got on my horse and rode down toward
 Djul. It burned still but little flame showed now. The way was steep and
 tough, through dense scrub. Finally on flatter ground I came out suddenly,
 through alders, on smoldering houses. Across trampled wheat my brothers-in-
 arms were leading off animals, several calves and a lamb."

p. 361 (fourth paragraph).

"Corpses came next, the first a pretty child with straight black hair,
 large eyes. She looked about twelve years old. She lay in some stubble
 where meal lay scattered from the sack she'd been toting. The bayonet
 had gone through her back, I judged, for blood around was scant. Between
 the breasts one clot, too small for a bullet wound, crusted her homespun
 dress.

 The next was a boy of ten or less, in rawhide jacket and knee-pants. He
 lay face down in the path by several huts. One arm reached out to the
 pewter bowl he'd carried, now upset upon its dough. Steel had jabbed
 just below his neck, into the spine.

 There were grownups, too, I saw as I led the sorrel around. Djul was
 empty of the living till I looked up to see beside me Dro's German-speaking
 colonel. He said all Tartars who had not escaped were dead."

p. 358.

 "...more stories of Armenian murdering Turks when the czarist troops fled
  north. My hosts told me of their duty here: to keep tabs on brigands,
  Turkish troop shifts, hidden arms, spies - Christian, Red or Tartar -
  coming in from Transcaucasus. Then they spoke of the hell that would
  break loose if Versailles were to put, as threatened, the six 'Armenian'
  vilayets of Turkey under the control of Erevan...

  An Armenia without Armenians! Turks under Christian rule? His lips
  smacked in irony under the droopy red moustache. That's bloodshed - just
  Smyrna over again on a bigger scale."

Serdar Argic


The best one I saw last year was Willie McGee off Matthews (I think?) in
Phillie.  A fierce line drive that was still rising when it hit thE
second deck facade at the Vet.  Willie McGee had one homerun last year.


I don't think they can do that without changing the law.  The chip itself
isn't classified, and reverse engineering is allowed by law (possibly)
unless prohibited by a valid contract.  The algorithm may be classified,
but there are many court cases ruling that information identical to
classfied information, but obtained from unclassified sources, is freely
publishable (with the possible exception of nuclear weapon information.)


: I live up in British Columbia, Canada.The cable company I use is called
: Rogers Cable. Does anyone know of their scrambling techniques, and ways of
: getting
: around them? Any suggestions of what they might use?
:
I don't know the answer to your question, but I am sure Rogers Cable can so
I tool the libery of forwarding your question to them and I am sure they
will be in touch. :-)


This question came up in Sci. Med. Nutrition and I'm posting my answer
here.  Only 22 medical schools in the U.S. teach courses on human
nutrition.  We have already seen what a lack of nutrition education can do
when candida and kidney stones present themselves to the medical community.
I think that the best example of where U.S. medicine is really missing the
mark when it comes to a knowledge of nutrition is PMS.  So many women(and
their husbands) suffer from this disorder that it is really criminal that
most physicians in the U.S. are not taught that PMS is primarily caused by
diet and diet changes can prevent it from ever happpening.  Before shooting
your flames, read the entire article and then decide if flaming is
justified.

From A Poster In Sci. Medi. Nutrition:
side-tracked with candida.  PMS is a lot like Candida blooms, most
physicians don't recognize it as a specific "disease" entity.  Here is
everything that you would ever want to know about PMS.

Premenstrual syndrome has been divided into four specific subgroups:

	PMT-A(Anxiety)		PMT-D(depression)
	anxiety			depression
	irritability		forgetfulness
	insomnia		confusion
	depression		lethargy

	PMT-C(Craving)		PMT-H(Hyperhydration)
	craving for sweets	weight gain
	increased appetite	breast congestion and tenderness
	sugar ingestion causes: abdominal bloating and tenderness
	 1. headache		edema of the face and extremities
	 2. palpitations
	 3. fatigue or fainting

PMT-A is characterized by elevated blood estrogen levels and low
progesterone levels during the luteal phase of a women's cycle.

PMT-C is caused by the ingestion of large amounts of refined simple
carbohydrates.  During the luteal phase of a women's cycle, there is
increased glucose tolerance with a flat glucose curve after oral glucose
challenge.  The metabolic findings believed to be responsible for PMT-C are
a low magnesium and a low prostaglandin E1.  This condition of hypoglycemia
is not unique to PMS but there are a number of different causes of
hypoglycemia, magnesium and PGE1 seem to be specific to PMS hypoglycemia.
	A. Am. J. Psychiatry 147(4):477-80(1990).
Unrefined complex carbohydrate should be substituted for sugar, magnesium
supplementation and alpha linoleic acid supplementation(increased to 5-6% of
the total calories) using safflower oil or evening primrose oil as sources
of alpha linoleic acid.

PMT-D is characterized by elevated progesterone levels during the midluteal
phase of a women's cycle.  Another cause of PMT-D has been found to be lead
toxicity(in women without elevated progesterone levels during the midluteal
phase). "Effect of metal ions on the binding of estridol to human
endometrial cystol" Fertil. Steril. 28:312-18(1972).

PMT-H is associated with water and salt retention along with an elevated
serum aldosterone level.  Salt restriction, B6, magnesium and vitamin E
for breast tenderness have all been effective in treating PMT-H

This general discussion of the PMS syndromes came form:

	A. "Management of the premenstrual tension sundromes: Rational for
	    a nutritional approach". 1986, A Year in Nutritional Medicine.
	    J. Bland, Ed. Keats, Publishing, 1986.

	B. "Nutritional factors in the etiology of premenstrual tension
	    syndromes", J. Reprod. Med.28(7):446-64(1983).

	C. "Premenstrual tension", Prob. Obstet. Gynecol. 3(12):1-39(1980)

Treatment has traditionally involved progesterone administration if you can
find a doctor who will treat you for PMS(just about as hard as finding one
that will treat you for candida blooms).  While progesterone will work,
supplementation with vitamins and minerals works even better.  There really
has been an awful lot of research done on PMS(much more than candida
blooms).  Many of these studies have been what are called experimental
controlled studies(the type of rigorous clinical studies that doctors like to
see done).

Here are a few of these studies:

	CARBOHYDRATE: Experimental Controlled Study, "Effect of a low-fat,
	high-carbohydrate diet on symptoms of cyclical mastopathy" Lancet
	2:128-32(1988).  21 pts with severe persistent cyclical mastopathy
	of at least 5 years duration were randomly selected to receive
	specific training to reduce dietary fat to 15% of total calories
	and increase complex carbohydrate ingestion or given general dietary
	advise with no training.  After 6 months, there was a significant
	reduction in the severity of the breast swelling and tenderness in
	the trained group as reported by self-reported symptoms as well as
	physical exams which quantitated the degree of breast swelling,
	tenderness and nodularity.

	VITAMIN A: Experimental Controlled Study, "The use of Vitamin A in
	premenstrual tension" Acta Obstet. Gynecol Scand. 39:586-92(1960).
	218 pts with severe recurring PMS received 200,000 to 300,000IU
	vitamin A daily or a placebo.  Serum retinol levels were monitored
	and high dose supplementation was discontinued when evidence of
	toxicity occured(serum retinol above 450ug/ml).  The intent of the
	study was to load the liver up with vitamin A and get a normal pool
	size(500,000IU to 1,000,000IU) and then see if this
	normal vitamin A pool could prevent PMS.  48% getting the high dose
	vitamin A had complete remission of the symptoms of PMS.  Only 10%
	getting the placebo reported getting complete relief of PMS sysmptoms.
  	10% of the vitamin A treated group reported no improvement in PMS
	symptoms.

	Experimental Controlled Study, "Premenstrual tension treated with
	vitamin A" J. Clinical Endocrinology 10:1579-89(1950). 30 pts
	received 200,000IU of vitamin A daily starting on day 15 of their
	cycle with supplementation continuing until the onset of PMS symptoms.
  	After 2-6 months, all 30 pts reported a significant improvement in
	PMS symptoms.  Vitamin A supplementation was stopped once evidence of
	toxicity was demonstrated and all 30 pts were followed for one year
	after high dose vitamin A supplementation was stopped.  PMS symptoms
	did not reoccur in any of these 30 pts for upto one year after the
	vitamin A supplementation was stopped.

Most Americans do not have a normal store of vitamin A in their liver.
These studies and several others were designed to see if getting a normal
store of vitamin A into the liver could eliminate PMS.  Of all the vitamins
given for PMS(vitamin A, B6, and vitamin E), vitamin A has shown the best
single effect.  This is probably because vitamin A is involved in steroid
(estrogen/progesterone) metabolism in the liver.  Getting your liver full
of vitamin A seems to be one of the best things that you can do to prevent
the symptoms of PMS.  But vitamin A is toxic and you don't want to be trying
to do this without being seen by a physician who can monitor you for vitamin
A toxicity.

	VITAMIN B6: Experimental Double-blind Crossoverr Study, "Pyridoxine
	(vitamin B6) and the premenstrual syndrome: A randomized crossover
	trial"J.R. Coll. Gen. Pract. 39:364-68(1989).  32 women aged 18-49
	with moderate to severe PMS randomly received 50mg B6 daily or placebo.
  	After 3 months the groups were switched and followed for another
	3 months.  B6 had a significant effect on the emotional aspects of
	PMS(depression, irritability and tiredness).  Other symptoms of PMS
	were not significanttly affected by B6 supplementation.

	Experimental Double-blind Study, "The efects of vitamin B6
	supplementation on premenstrual sysmptoms" Obstet. Gynecol
	70(2):145-49(1987).  55 pts with moderate to severe PMS received
	150mg B6 daily or placebo for 2 months.  Analysis of convergence
	showed that B6 significantly improved premenstrual symptoms related
	to the autonomic nervous system(dizziness and vomiting) as well as
	behavior changes(poor mental performance, decreased social interaction)
  	Anxiety, depression and water retention were not improved by B6
	supplementation.

Vitamin B6 is below the RDA for both American men and women.  Birth control
pills and over 40 different drugs increase the B6 requirement in man.
Women on birth control pills should be supplemented with 10-15 mg of B6 per
day.  The dose should be increased if symptoms of PMS appear.  Dr. David R.
Rubinow who heads the biological psychiatry branch of NIMH was quoted in
Clin. Psychiatry News, December, 1987 as stating that B6 should be
considered the "first-line" drug for PMS(over progesterone) and if the
patient does not respond, then other treatments should be tried.  Vitamin
B6 can be toxic(nerve damage) if consumed in doses of 500mg or more each
day.

	VITAMIN E: Experimental Double-blind Study, "Efficacy of alpha-
	tocopherol in the treatment of premenstrual syndrome" J. Reprod.
	Med. 32(6):400-04(1987). 35 pts received 400IU vitamin E daily for 3
	cycles or a placebo.  Vitamin E treated pts had 33% who reported a
	significant reduction in physical symptoms(weight gain and breast
	tenderness) while the placebo group had 14% who reported a significant
 	reduction in physical symptoms. The vitamin E group reported that 38%
	had a significant reduction in anxiety versus 12% for the placebo
	group.  For depression, the vitamin E group had 27% with a significant
	decrease in depression compared with 8% for the placebo group.

	Experimental Double-blind Study, "The effect of alpha-tocopherol on
	premenstrual symptomalogy: A double blind study" J. Am. Coll. Nutr.
	2(2):115-122(1983). 75pts with benign breast disease and PMT randomly
	received vitamin E at 75IU, 150IU, or 300IU daily or placebo.  After
	2 months of supplementation, 150IU of vitamin E or higher significantly
	improved PMT-A and PMT-C.  The 300IU dose was needed to significantly
	improve PMT-D.  No dose of vitamin E significantly improved PMT-H
	(other studies have shown that a higher vitamin E doses will relieve
	PMT-H symptoms).

	MAGNESIUM: Experimental Double-blind Study, "Magnesium prophylaxis
	of menstrual migraine: effects on itracellular magnesium" Headache
	31:298-304(1991). 20 pts with perimenstrual headache received 360 mg
	daily of magnesium as magnesium pyrrolidone carboxylic acid or a
	placebo.  Treatment was started on the 15th day of the cycle and
	continued until menstruation. After 2 months, the Pain Total Index
	was significantly lower in the magnesium group.  Magnesium treatment
	was also assocoiated with a significant reduction in the Menstrual
	Distress Questionnaire scores.  Pretreatment magnesium levels in
	lymphocytes and polymorphonuclear leukocytes were significantly lower
	in this group of 20 pts compared to control women who did not suffer
	from PMS.  After treatment, magnesium levels in these cells was raised
	into the normal range.

	Experimental Double-blind Study, "Oral Magnesium successfully
	relieves premenstrual mood changes" Obstet. Gynecol 78(2):177-81(1991).
	32pts aged 24-39 randomly received either magnesium carboxylic acid
	360mg of Mg per day or a placebo from the 15th day of the cycle to the
	onset of the menstrual flow.  After 2 cycles, both groups received
	magnesium.  The Menstrual Distress Questionnaire score of the cluster
	pain was significantly reduced during the second cycle(month) for the
	magnesium treatment group as well as the placebo group once they were
	switched to magnesium supplementation.  In addition, the total score on
	the Menstrual Distress Questionnaire was significantly decreased by
	magnesium supplementation.  The authors suggest that magnesium
	supplemenation should become a routine treatment for the mood changes
	that occur during PMS.

There are numerous observational studies that have been published in the
medical literature which also suggest that PMS is primarily a disorder
that arises out of a hormone imbalance that is dietary in nature.  But
since observational studies are considered by most physicians in Sci. Med.
to be anecdotal in nature, I have not bothered to cite them.  There are
also over a half dozen good experimental studies that have been done on
multivitamin and mineral supplementation to prevent PMS.  I've chosen the
best specific studies on individual vitamins and minerals to try to point out
that PMS is primarily a nutritional disorder.  But doctors don't recognize
nutritional disorders unless they can see clinical pathology(beri-beri,
pellagra, scruvy, etc.).  PMS is probably the best reason why every doctor
being trained in the U.S. should get a good course on human nutrition.  PMS
is really only the tip if the iceberg when it comes to nutritional
disorders.  It's time that medicine woke up and smelled the roses.

Here's some studies which show the importance in multivitamin/mineral
supplementation and/or diet change in preventing PMS.

	Experimental Study, "Effect of a nutritional programme on
	premenstrual syndrome: a retrospective analysis", Complement. Med.
	Res.5(1):8-11(1991).  200pts were given dietary instructions and
	supplemented with Optivite(R) plus additional vitamin C, vitamin E,
	magnesium, zinc and primrose oil.  The dietary instructions were to
	take the supplements and switch to a low fat, complex carbohydrate
	diet.  On a retrospective analysis, 96.5% of the 200pts reported an
	improvement in their PMS symptoms with 30% of the sample stating that
	they no longer suffered from PMS.

	Experimental Double-blind Study, "Role of Nutrition in managing
	premenstrual tension syndromes", J Reprod. Med. 32(6):405-22(1987).
	A low fat, high complex carbohydrate diet along with Optivite
	supplementation significantly decreased PMS scores compared with diet
	change and placebo.  After 6 months on the experimental program, the
	vitamin/mineral supplementated group had significantly decreased
	estradiol and increased progesterone in serum during the midlutel
	phase of their cycle.

	Experimental Double-blind Study, "Clinical and biochemical effects
	of nutritional supplementation on the premenstrual syndrome", J.
	Reprod. Med. 32(6):435-41(1987). 119pts randomly given Optivite(12
	tablets per day) or a placebo.  The treated groups showed a
	significant decrease in PMS symptoms compared to the placebo.  Another
 	group of 104pts got Optivite(4 tablets per day) or placebo.  For this
	second group of patients, no significant effect of supplementation on
	PMS symptoms was observed.

Martin Banschbach, Ph.D.
Professor of Biochemistry and Chairman
Department of Biochemistry and Microbiology
OSU College of Osteopathic Medicine
1111 W. 17th St.
Tulsa, Ok 74107


Please excuse the length of this post, but for personal reasons,
I must go on at some length.

    [...more deleted...]

    Perhaps it would be instructive to see what my original post had
to say:

     [followed by my signature]

    I was extremely careful in this posting not to say anything which
was not factual.  I made no judgement about Hitching or the quality of
the quotation attributed to him.  I have not read any of the books
listed (although I did glimpse briefly at "Earth Magic", I saw nothing
that I would care to comment on).  It was solely in response to an
inquiry by Warren about Hitching, and your assertion that he is a
paleontologist.  I do not know whether he is or is not a paleontologist.
I do not claim to know anything about him, except this listing of his
publications.

    However, I get the decided impression that I am being included
among the "Branch Atheists" on the basis of this post.  If that
impression is mistaken, please let me know.  Otherwise, I should let
you know that the implications are very offensive to me, and I
would certainly appreciate a clarification of your posting.


Does it
in
the
I have had a Nikon L35AW since 1988. Unfortunately it is no longer
made. It is a P & S sealed to resist water to a depth of 12 feet. It
is not really an underwater camera but it has been great in wet and
dusty conditions. It takes AA batteries (hooray). It has the solid,
heavy feel of old-style Nikons and has taken all the abuse I have
been able to give it. This includes a lot of water (rain, river and
sea), desert and beach sand as well as being used as a weapon
against a mugger. Shouting and swinging the camera by the strap
didn't scare the mugger away, hitting him with the flying camera
did. This is my, "never be without a camera" camera. The current
water-resistant (Sport Touch I think is the name) model is nothing
like as solid or well sealed.


Hi,  I have a few questions about laying out a PCB. I am using easytrax for dos
which is a great program. But what my question is When laying out traces what
thickness should they be? I am mainly designing low voltage low current boards
for micro controller apps. What should pad sizes be for resistors? I will be
turning to a commercial PCB maker to produce 1's of these boards and I was
wondering what is the minimum distance traces should be from each other. Well
any info would be great. Thanks.
                                                 Anton


[snip]

ANYTHING you store in there will eventually cause some discomfort over
time.


ed>1.  All of us that argue about gyroscopes, etc., throughly understand
ed>the technique of countersteering.

me>Including all the ones who think that they countersteer all the way
me>through a corner??

ed>Well... all the way through a decreasing-radius corner, anyway...

Maybe they are riding around an ever-decreasing circle of lies which
eventually leads to the truth....

me>The official line here (though I do have my doubts about it) is that the
me>front brake is applied first, followed by the rear brake, the idea being
me>that you avoid locking up the rear after weight transfer takes place.

Me too, though unfortunately the "Official Line" is the one that you
have to adhere to if you want to get a full licence. The examiner's
guidelines are laid down by the government, and the basic rider education
courses have no choice but to follow them. It surprises me that none of the
rider groups here, either MAG or the BMF make much noise about the fact that
the riding test requires you to ride three feet from the kerb all the time
in order to pass, that the front brake must be applied before the rear, that
you have to keep looking over your shoulder all the time (instead of just
when it is justified) - there's probably a few more too, which I can't
think of for the moment. If the riding test could be rejigged a bit
to include more of the real-world survival skills and less of the
woefully simplistic crap that it contains now, then the accident figures
would (imho) reduce still further.

Don't think we should include countersteering knowledge in our test though...


   Brian, it doesn't offend me if you decide to reject Jesus
   Christ.  I only wish you would make that decision after you
   learn who Jesus is.


I know of at least one ftp-site from which you can download the cracks of
about any commercial game in existence. The names of the companies (yes,
companies!) are also blatantly advertised with the crack codes. According to
them, it is not illegal (at least in the USA, according to a statute or
something) to remove the copy protection from any program. The only condition
is that you may only use this code on legally owned software for your own
convenience.

If there is any interest I will download the advertisement of one such
company. I will not give the name of this ftp-site to anyone, even if only
to protect the companies which wrote the original games.

DISCLAIMER: I do not condone the use or cracking of any programs. I believe
it hurts the industry and individuals in the long run.

On the subject of copy protection: Most pirates don't give a damn about
using software on which the name of the registered owner came up on starting
the program. They just don't have a conscience.


That has not been demonstrated.  Had he come to trial, there was a very real
possibility that Koresh would have gotten an acquittal on grounds of self-
defense.  All survivors of the debacle have sworn that the BATF shot first.

They "rang the doorbell" using a concussion grenade!  And if the bloody
warrants were "legal" then why were they _sealed_ after the fight started?
And if Koresh had declared himself a "private state" and was just daring the
gov't to go in, then why did he surrender last year to a local sheriff who
served a warrant _for_his_arrest_ (as opposed to the BATF search warrant,
which did not include arrest unless violations were found) by just calling
him up to tell him and then going out to collect him with his squad car?
That doesn't sound like a dictator to me, it sounds like someone who knows
he has a court battle.  Things might have gone very differently if the BATF
_had_ "rung the doorbell".

This is stupid.  That is no paranoid assertion, it is testamony from surviving
witnesses, and the BATF _has_ no tanks, nor am I aware of either the BATF _or_
the FBI using any until yesterday.  When they use maximum force they do just
what they did that first day that got four officers killed.

"Underarmed"?  You flabberghast me, they were loaded for bear and every
picture shows them wearing bullet-proof vests!  They were using concussion
grenades and full-auto weapons, what was missing low-yield tac-nukes?  This
is a transparent attempt to retcon a justification for the ridiculous amount
of force used, both initially and yesterday.  You should be ashamed.

They _had_ a sure-fire method: keep them bottled up and talk them to death or
surrender without giving him justification for some looney-tune religious
stunt.

Phil, I've been reading your postings for months and I'm convinced that you
will back anything, no matter how damaging it may be to yours or anyone
else's rights if you think it will hurt people you don't like.  It's people
with that attitude that set up the preconditions for the Holocaust, a process
that is in place _now_ in this country, even if the tattered, pitiful remains
of the Constitution is slowing its progress.  This isn't a Libertarian issue,
others may argue that line, but from a strictly Constitutional view of a
democratic gov't, what the FBI and BATF did was wrong, wrong, wrong, even if
their _reasons_ for trying to arrest Koresh were 100% right.  _Anything_ that
leads to the deaths of 17 children, if nothing else touches your stoney
heart, is _wrong_ no matter who pushed the button.  For God's sake, man, get
your morality back.

Larry Smith (smith@ctron.com)  No, I don't speak for Cabletron.  Need you ask?


I need some advice regarding monitor to use with Xfree86. I have an ET4000
based graphic card with 1 Meg of memory. I know this card is supported in
Xfree86 because a friend of mine has one of these in his PC. His monitor is
17" colour capable of displaying 1280x1024 resolution. I cant afford this kind
of expensive monitor. I heard from somewhere that Xfree86 requires multisync
monitor with minimum horizontal scan frequency of 60KHz. Is this true?
I would only like to use Xfree86 at resolution of 800x600 in 256 colours and
so was thinking of buying a cheap 14" SVGA monitor. Interlaced (Cheap)14" SVGA
monitors only have have maximum horizontal scan frequency of about 38KHz.
Will this kind of monitor work with Xfree86?

Please reply by email.

Thaks in advance.


Oh no! Oh no!  They've taken over comp.windows.misc and now THEY'RE
COMING FOR US!

  --berry


It's not true.  IDE bus uses signals which has similar name and same
meaning to the counterpart of ISA bus but its (IDE bus) signal timing
doesn't have to be same to ISA signal timing.  My VL-IDE bus card has
a set of jumpers to set its transfer rate from 3.3MB/sec up to 8.3MB/
sec (the manufacturer might have to correct these numbers as 3.3
*milion* byte/sec and 8.3 *milion* byte/sec respectively).   You
cannot transfer data at a rate of 8.3MB/sec on the ISA bus.

Ken Nakata


I've done all those things, and I've regretted it, and I learned
a lesson or two. So far an aspirin, a good talk with your wife,
or a one week vacation has cured me -- no need for group therapy
or strange religions!

Cheers,
Kent


Where in the world did you get this? Please read history books before
you start talking something


Word 2.0c doesn't show the period-centred character to indicate
spaces if I use the TTFonts from CorelDraw.  Our editors need to
be able to see how many spaces are in text but the character
displayed is a large hollow box.  They overlap each other and
characters on each side, which is useless.

I believe the character used by W4W is the period-centred (0183).
This character shows up with the windows Charmap display as the
hollow box which tends to confirm this.  I have edited the corel
font with Fontmonger and changing the font graphics for the 0183
character makes no difference to the font output in Charmap or W4W.
Altering the paragraph (0182) or cedilla (0184) does alter their font
graphics displayed however!!

Is the W4W character used to indicate spaces the period-centred character?

Has anyone been able to get this character displayed from a CorelDraw TTF?


Tony,  I believe, first of all, that Max's car is an Austrailian
built car.  I don't think its a chopped up U.S. unit.  It may be called a
Kangaroo or Roo or something similar-not sure.  But, I do recall reading
that Austrailian cars used Ford V-8 engines.  The Ford V-8 Interceptor
is, I think, a 428 c.i. cop car motor.  Whatever the case that small car
with a screaming big block Ford 428 would probably smoke the tires for
miles/kilometers.  I hope someone out there can elaborate on the subject.


Hi:
On the 1024x768x256 mode, the font sizes of Window Menu, Help Window are very
small. Can I change the font and font size for these windows? My computer is
80486 DX-33, the Video Card is ATI D24. Could some experts please email the
answer to GRZHENG@vax2.Concondia.ca. Thanks in advance.


I believe the NHL Draft is on or the June 18th weekend.


There are other laws and directives which bear upon the subject.  For
example, the National Computer Security Act of 1987 specifically directs
NBS [sic] to work with NSA on developing security standards for civilian
Federal computers.  (Pick up the bill from cpsr.org; it also includes
a report describing it, and some of the legislative history, including
concerns about NSA's involvement.)  Note also that NSA is specifically
charged with running the National Computer Security Center,  -- to
quote the aforementioned report -- ``NSA also will work with industries at
the DOD Computer Security Center to develop security standards for private
sector use.''


Once the Rushdie situation exploded into the media, the Muslim voice on
the matter of the book was effectively restricted to short video bytes
showing
the dramatic highlights of Muslim demonstrations. For every twenty or so
newspaper, magazine articles, interviews etc. supporting Rushdie, there
would
appear one Muslim voice. This person was usually selected based on how
dramatic and incoherent he was, not on his knowledge of Islam or the
situation at the time. This approx. twenty to one ratio continued
throughout the escalation of the crisis, with Rushdie in the central
spotlight as the man of the moment, the valiant defender of everyman's
right to free speech decoupled from responsibility. (As an aside, it's
interesting that while the hue and cry about freedom of speech went up,
some books (defaming certain ethnic and religious groups) continued
to be banned here. It was felt that they injured the sensibilities of these

groups and presented a false image which could promote feelings of
hate towards these groups. For Muslims this kind of double standard
was annoying.)

Rushdie saw this spotlight as a golden opportunity to lash out at
"organized"
Islam, and he did so with admirable verbal skill. The only kind of Islam
which Rushdie finds palatable is what he calls a "secular" Islam - an Islam
separated from it's Qur'an, it's Prophet, God, its legislation, and most
importantly from any intrusion into any political arena. Fine - Rushdie
made
his views known - the Muslim's made their anger at his book known. The
scale of the whole affair erupted into global proportions - it was, by this
time,
already a political situation - affecting governments as well as
individuals.
The situation was a serious one, with far-reaching political implications.
At the centre of this turmoil was Rushdie, throwing fuel on the fire -
engaged
in a personal crusade that made him oblivious to any sense of caution.

Now you may feel that the person in the centre of a worldwide storm such as

this has no responsibility, has no reason to exercise restraint of any
kind, has no
obligation to perhaps step back momentarily out of the spotlight till
matters calm down. Perhaps you even feel that he is justified in "boldly"
defying the anger of all those who dare to take umbrage at his literary
work, no matter what insult they find within it. Perhaps you see him as
a kind of secular "heroic Knight",mounted on the his media steed,
 doing battle with the "dragon" of Islamic "fundamentalism".

Well Khomeini saw him as a disingeneous author who
grew up in a Muslim atmosphere, knew well what Muslim's hold dear,
who wrote a book which mischievously uses certain literary conventions
to slander, insult, and attack Islam and its most notable personalities -
who, when
faced with a situation that became a worldwide crisis, continued with
his mischief in the world stage of the media - who, even after people were
injured and killed because of the magnitude and emotion of the situation,
continued his mischief, instead of having the good sense to desist.
Khomeini saw the crisis as mischief making on a grand scale, mischief
making that grew in scale as the scale of the crisis enlarged. The deaths
of Muslims around the world and Rushdie's continued media mischief
even after this, was the triggering factor that seemed to
decide Khomeini on putting a stop to the mischief. The person at the
centre of all these events was Rushdie - he was the source of the
continuing mischief - all media support, government support was
just that - support. The source was Rushdie (and his publishers, who
were nothing short of ecstatic at the publicity and were very happy
to see Rushdie constantly in the media). The Islamic rulings that
deal with people who engage in this kind of grand-scale mischief
making, was applied to Rushdie.

I have made no attempts at justification, only at explanation. "Image" is
the chief concern of Muslim 'apologists' for Islam and for Rushdie.
If Muslims willingly relegated themselves to becoming a sub-culture
within a larger secular culture, such that the secular principles and laws
had precedence over the laws of Islam - then I have no doubt that Islam
would then be thought to have a good "image" (Principally because it would
by and large reflect the secular image). A "good image" usually means " be
more
like me".

Your attempts at TOTALLY exonerating Rushdie reflect exactly the attitude
that
resulted in the polarization brought about by the crisis.


Does any one out there have experience with Planet X, I am
considering buying it to use on a SPARCstation IPC, in this
way I can run Mac programs from the SPARC.

Would you recommend buying this piece of Software and what is
the emulation on the SPARC like?  Does it give a window of a
Mac or does it give a window of just the individual programs?

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Dean


--
In the R5 file fix-01 there is the line that reads as the subject
line here.  I don't see a file fix-00.  When I got a few Hmmm...
lines putting on fix-01, it made me wonder if I has missed 00.
Am I off the mark?

Thank you.
======================================================================
Ray Stell		stellr@smyrna.cc.vt.edu		(703) 231-4109


    Performa 405 = LCII 4/80 with Monitor, modem and software.
    Performa 430 = LCII 4/120 w/ Monitor, modem and software.

    Performa 450 = LCIII with Monitor, modem and software.
    Do we detect a trend here people...

    The Performas are made to be low-cost, widely distributed (sold at
Sears) home machines, not business machines. They were developed to
compete with the retail outlet home computer market.

    Sears is probably going to have the best price around, most of the
time, based on the number they can purchase and stuff like that.

    Not really. The newer Peformas (405, 430, 450) come with what is
really a third party monitor that Apple has put their name on and
called it the Performa Plus display. Essentially it is a VGA monitor,
quite cheap.


I don't actually have the answer to this one.

Bosio, after walking the first two batters, retired 27-straight for a
"back-end" perfect game.

How many other games - including extra inning games - have seen a pitcher
retire 27 straight, excluding official perfect games?

The only other instance of this I know about for sure is the famous Ernie
Shore game, which counts as a perfect one according to those goons in
Cooperstown. Shore came into the game when Boston Pitcher Babe Ruth got
thrown out for arguing over the first-batter walk; Shore picked him off and
retired 26 straight after that.

Matt Wall * wall@cc.swarthmore.edu * Hey, I gotta job here, OK?


Funny . . . I and most of the detector-owning friends I have, are
generally able to *REMEMBER* such things as nearby microwave towers and
radar detectors going off in EXACTLY the same spon EVERY DAY . . ..

I know on I-64 at the Grayson, KY exit, there's a store just off the side
of the road (think it's a Liquor store . . .) with what must be a security
system that would make most federal prisons proud.  It's the only thing
I've ever driven by (besides a cop) that puts my Whistler in "Oh my God
he's Right Behind You!!!!" mode . . ..  I simply ignore the detector and
use my eyes when I drive by that store . . . 40 seconds later, all's quiet
on the front and no problem.

:-) :-)


[On secrecy in LDS ceremonies.  --clh]


Sorry. My friend's address who wants the faq and info is
jjsulliv@colby.edu
Sorry about that folks.
Jody
--

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jody Rebecca		Colby College		Majors: History/Sociology
			Class o' '94
E-Mail:  jrgould@colby.edu
	 samuel@paul.rutgers.edu

Fantasy, Music, Colors, and Animals will lead this society out of oppression.


Hi, It's time to clean my shelf, all price include shipping, so you don't
have to worry about it, just pay the amount you see.

Name                        Cover     Publisher       Year   Origin   Now
----		            -----     ---------       ----   ------   ---

The Ultimate DOS            Heavy
Programmer's Manual         Hard      WindCrest       1991    $50     $25

Bit-Mapped Graphics         Hard      WindCrest       1990    $50     $25

Algorithms in C             Hard      Addison-Wesley  1990    $45     $25

File Structure              Hard      Addison-Wesley  1988    $36     $20

Programming with
Data Structure
(Pascal Version)            Soft      Prentice Hall   1989    $?      $10

Digital Design              Hard      Wiley           1989    $51     $30

Numerical Analysis          Hard      PWS-KENT        1990    $50     $25

                            W. Disk
Batch files to Go           Soft      McGraw-Hill     1992    $35     $25

Advanced Batch              W. Disk
File Programming            Soft      Mcgraw-Hill     1992    $30     $20

Computer Graphics
Principle and               Heavy
Practice                    Hard      Addison-Wesley  1992    $65     $40

Structure and
Interpreter of
Computer Program            Hard      Macgraw-Hill    1991    $40     $20

C: An Advanced
   Introduction             Hard      Bell Tele Lab   1989    $40     $15

Building C Library          Soft      WindCrest       1991    $25     $15

X Window System
C Lib and Protocol
Reference                   Soft      Digital press   1992    $?      $25

Oh!  Pascal!                Soft      W.W. Norton     1986    $?      $10

Differential
Equation                    Hard      PWS-KENT        1990    $55     $15

Applied Discrete
Structure for
Computer Science            Hard      MacMillan       1993    $45     $25

Programming in C++          Soft      Prentice Hall   1990    $28     $15

Using WordPerfect 5.0       Soft      Houghton        1989    $8      free with
                                                                      purchase

Linear Algebra              Hard      Addison-Wesley  1991    $50     $30

DEC Station                 W. Disks
MS-DOS 3.30.01              Binders
and GW-BASIC                Box       Digital         ?       ?       $20

***************************************************************************

The Big Gray Book: The next Step with ULTRIX
Ultrix/SQL Net User's Guide
           Database Adminstrator's Guide
           Reference Manual
           Error Message Dictionary
           Operation Guide
Guide to Diskless Management Services
Guide to Server Setup
Guide to Remote Installation Service
Guide to BIND/Hesiod Service
Guide to the Network File System
Guide to Ethernet Communication Servers
Introduction to Networking and Distributed System Service
Guide to the Yellow Page Service
Guide to Backup and Restore
Guide to Shutdown and Startup
Guide to Disk Maintenance
Guide to Kerberos
Gudie to the uucp Utility
Guide to IBM Terminal Emulation for VAX Processors
Guide to Configuration File Maintenance
Guide to SCAMP
Guide to Printer Clients
Guide to Adminstrator's security
Guide to the Location Broker
Guide to System and Network Setup
Guide to System Environment Setup
Guide to Software Licensing
Guide to System Exercise
Guide to Error Logger
Guide to System Crash Recovery
Guide to the Nawk Utility
Security Guide for the users
Kernal Message reference Manual
Reference Page
Section 4: Special Files
        5: File Formats
        7: Macro Package and Conventions

Asking for $100/obo, it's pretty heavy though.


Saab Sonnet III too I believe.


What I mean is what I said.   "What I want" does not automatically
translate into "what I think is right."   That is, it does not
translate that way for me.

If you reply that "I think it is ok to kill you because that is what
I decided" then what that means is that for you "What I want" does
translate into "what I think is right".

It just doesn't translate that way for me.


                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[underlining mine/Quean Lutibelle]

Yes, those who apply it hatefully would be better served if they if
they could alter the Bible to reflect their views:

Scene 1:  A well in Samaria:

Woman:  But I have no husband.
Jesus:  Yo!  Everybody!  Listen up!  Get your rocks ready!  We'll have
        some good biblical fun.  Here she is whispering to me that
        she doesn't have a husband, yet I know by my secret powers that
        she has had five of them!  (You know how these Samaritans are!
        And worse, she's living with a guy now that she's not even married
        to.  Now I believe in loving her, and if you'll just raise up
        those rocks like the bible allows and threaten her with a good
        stoning, she'll understand how much we hate the sin but love
        the sinner.   We must keep our priorities strait, lest folks
        2,000 years from now misunderstand me and believe I canceled
        all sin!

Scene 2:  Golgatha

2nd Thief:  You got a raw deal, man.  They didn't catch you doing anything
            wrong like they caught me.

Bleeding Jesus:  Now, son.  Let me be real clear.  You say you did something
            wrong, but are you repenting?  I need to be absolutely certain
            cause if you repent, I have a nice room for you in heaven,
            but if you think you might go thieving again, I have to
            cancel your reservation.  It is nice of you to have pity on
            me while I'm hanging here, but you must understand, this is
            all an act; I'm not really hurting.  I'm God, you see.  And
            the point of all this is to teach you to be perfect like me.
            If you think a simple kind remark to me in suffering is going
            to get you any favors, you'd better think twice!  But if you
            will just REPENT, you will become a Fundelical in Good
            Standing.

From all such Bad News, you have delivered us, Good God!  Thank you!
Thank you!  Thank you!

Quean Lutibelle/Louie


I have the Logitech hand scanner for the Mac.  It uses a SCSI
interface box that the standard scanner unit plugs into.  I
have tried my friend's IBM hand scanner with the scsi box and
it works.  See if you can get Logitech to sell you the scsi
box by itself.  Warning:  most of the cost of Mac handscanners
is contained in the scsi interface box, so it could run up
to around $200.  When I upgraded my old style scanner to
the new gray scale model, it cost $75; they just gave me a new
scan head and software; the box was the same.  The gray scale
scanner + interface runs about $300; making it around $200 for
the interface.


It took three days to get to us, but I'll try anyway as I naturally
haven't seen the answer.

SAFE. The correct call is "Infield Fly, (batter out) if fair". Runners
may advance at own risk. (Gotta tag up if caught, etc.) It is not a
force, and the pop was not caught, so regardless of whether the SS
tags 3B or 2B (it wasn't clear, above), he hasn't got the runner out.

OUT. See rule 6.05(L) APPROVED RULING. (Below). In this case, the
umpire has decided for whatever reason that the infield fly rule
doesn't apply. (Sounds like a bad call here, but that's not the
point). The batter is not out, so a force situation is created.
Therefore, the runner is out.  ( UNLESS, by rule 6.05(L) the ball is
dead AND the batter is safe, then I guess the runners would advance
unmolested.  I can't really tell from 6.05(L) that the ball is dead in
this situation.)

Pertinent rules: 2.00 Definition of Infield Fly: "When an Infield fly
is called, runners may advance at their own risk. If on an infield fly
rule, the infielder intentionally drops a fair ball, the ball remains
in play despite the provisions of Rule 6.05(L). The Infield Fly rule
takes precedence."

6.05(L) A batter is out when: an infielder intentionally drops a fair
fly ball or line drive, with first, first and second, first and thrid,
or first,second and third base occupied before two are out. The ball
is dead and the runners or runners shall return to their original base
or bases. APPROVED RULING: In this situation, the batter is not out if
the infielder permits the ball the drop untouched to the ground,
except when the infield fly rule applies.


Not only the Sonett (correct spelling), but the 95 wagon and 96 sedan
used a 1500 cc or 1700 cc V-4 from Ford of Germany.  This particular
motor had a 60 degree vee angle, a balance shaft and siamesed exhaust
ports.  This motor was later stretched into the V-6 commonly seen in the
Capri.

The V-4 could make pretty reasonable power for its size.  But in the
Saab, it made too much torque for the transmission, which had been
designed for a 3-cylinder 2-stroke.

 -- Chuck Fry, former Sonett III owner


	   Also,if they did come from the Oort cloud we would expect to
   see the same from other stars Oort Clouds.


: : bit of it, you could take the tape over to a local ham operator's house
: : and ask him for his opinion of what you're hearing.  Most communities
:
: You cannot do that legally. However, you can ask a ham over to listen.
: If the interference occurs at a specific time each day, then it would
: be possible to do such scheduling.  If nothing else, you could invite
: the ham over to transmit from your driveway, to see if he interferes.
: If he does, then you probably need to have your equipment worked on to
: make it immune to rf interference.

As a coupld of people have pointed out - this is wrong. It is not illegal
to record or disclose what you heard on the Ham bands.


Well, -I've- been reading t.p.m. for a while and here is what I saw
YOU write:

  >For balance, perhaps you should mention the mosques in Jerusalem that
  >were razed after the Israeli victory in 1967.  An eye for an eye, I guess.

Your statment clearly tries to "balance" Arab atrocities by noting a
single incident by the Israelis in war-time at their most holy site.
You even characterize it as "an eye for an eye".

  >That would be false.  If you read your history, you will learn that
  >right after the 1967 war, the victorious Israelis decided to raze a
  >section of the newly captured East Jerusalem, near the Wailing Wall.
  >It is in this section that mosques were razed.

so now you have to find some source that notes that more than 1 mosque
was razed.  You then followed it with:

  >This episode is an example of a good government running amok with
  >newly acquired power.

Really?  Do you still feel that Israelis are comparable in the running
amok with power with, say, the Iraqis?  Your "eye for an eye"
comparisons don't match the realities that most of us are familiar
with.

This happened to be during a war!  And a fierce and mighty war it was,
too.  Would you say that the Jordanians "indiscriminately shot up
ancient structures as is their custom" in describing bullet holes in
the walls of the city?  This was war!  It was certainly not any "eye
for an eye" characterstic.  Israelis do not harbor the same feelings
of revenge as the Arabs generally do.  This is one of the reasons that
the Peace Now movement exists in Israel and nowhere else in the M.E.


Someone named Hansk asked about pictures.

Well, there is an archive of portraits in xfaces format at
ftp.uu.net. Henry Spencer's picture is there somewhere, along
with several thousand others.

I don't remember the path, though it should be easy to find.
Remember, though, it seems to use both internet and uucp
addresses.


Don't know who scored, but the Isles (28-7 franchise record in
playoff OT games) took game four by a score of 4-3 for their
third consecutive OT win over the Capitals tonight at Uniondale.
If you know, please post who scored for a Isles fan living in
Atlanta:Hockey Hell.

Lord Stan's a Uniondale Man!  GO ISLES!


Did your ENT also tell you that this procedure may remove warts from the soles
of your feet and improve your sex life?


So far, you have presented your opinions as opposed to mine. I would
hardly take them as facts.

I could give you hundreds of words in my mother tongue (Spanish), that
are comonly use and you will never find in a dictionary. Even more, I
could show you a lot of meanings that words in Spanish have different
from those in the dictionary.

And guess why. Isn't it curious that we do not know how many people define
in how many different ways the term Jew, which is the basis of the movement
itself?
So, the evidence shows that up to now, Jew, when considered in terms of Israel,
the Law of Return and Jewish Nationality is defined in terms of religion and
not of cultural identity, even if 80% of those defined as Jews in Isreal
are not religious.

That IS a problem. I am saying that I do not support Zionism as it is
now. I believe that among the people in the Soviet Communist Party some
might even had been inspired by noble ideals. Does that change the
final results of what happened in the USSR?
In the same way, even if the Zionist movement is not homogeneous, it
does not matter. What matters is the result.

I never said it directly nor indirectly. I am not talking about individuals
who defined themselves as zionists here. I am sure most of them are good,
honest and caring people. I am talking about the results of the Zionist
Movement. I am talking about a Movement whose actions resulted in a
Law of Return with a religious definition of Jew, a country that defines
nationality based on religion. I am talking about something I consider
a form of racism such as differenciation based on religious belief.
After all, if Arabs in Israel cannot serve in the Army is becasue they
were not born in the "right" religion.

I had never heard the definition: Only those who are religious are defined as Jews.
I had always seen the definition: A person is a Jew is his/her mother is/was
a Jew, and if such person does not convert, although I had seen people
argue about the last part.

So, there is no difference between citizenship and nationality in Israel?
Or what do you mean by "Actually, it doesn't"?

So, it follows a religious definition and not a cultural one. That is what
I call a form of racism.

You do not need to assume the representation of "everybody else" to
make your points. You should assume that you are just talking for yourself.
About the other stuff, I still believe that the example was a valid one.
It would be a hypocrisy to say that one supports nationalism for all and
then support Zionism and then disregard the Palestinian's right.

It was an example. You are trying to justify something nobody has
talked about.

Reference.

yes, but not all of them. A language is something that evolves all the time.

Not really. I posted in another post the definition of Zionism. And, in
this post you have showed for me what I was telling you from the
begining. Zionism is a form of racism, even if most zionists are not
racist in their individual and private lifes. A movement that ask
for a State and National rights for a people, and then in practice,
that people are defined according to religion is, for me, racist-like.

You did it. Next time be more careful.

Do you know the difference between opinion and fact?


PSI makes an internal fax modem for the map portable (1-800-622-1722) but
asks too much for it (retail $450). I'd buy an external and save about
$350.

there is a manufacturer that still makes INTERNAL HD's for the portable,
they're listed in some of the catalog "magazines" for apple stuff you can
find at bookstores. If I see it again I'll post it. But, again, you might
want to just add a small lightweight external HD built for the
powerbooks. You'd be able to use it with a new computer some day. Any
other mac portable questions, I'll have to cry uncle.

Don't blame me. I voted for XXXXXXX.


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#
#>#>|>#>#Theism is strongly correlated with irrational belief in absolutes. Irrational
#>#>|>#>#belief in absolutes is strongly correlated with fanatism.
#>#
#>#(deletion)
#>#
#>#>|Theism is correlated with fanaticism. I have neither said that all fanatism
#>#>|is caused by theism nor that all theism leads to fanatism. The point is,
#>#>|theism increases the chance of becoming a fanatic. One could of course
#>#>|argue that would be fanatics tend towards theism (for example), but I just
#>#>|have to loook at the times in history when theism was the dominant ideology
#>#>|to invalidate that conclusion that that is the basic mechanism behind it.
#>#>
#>#>IMO, the influence of Stalin, or for that matter, Ayn Rand, invalidates your
#>#>assumption that theism is the factor to be considered.
#>#
#>#Bogus. I just said that theism is not the only factor for fanatism.
#>#The point is that theism is *a* factor.
#>
#>That's your claim; now back it up.  I consider your argument as useful
#>as the following:  Belief is strongly correlated with fanaticism.  Therefore
#>belief is *a* factor in fanaticism.  True, and utterly useless.  (Note, this
#>is *any* belief, not belief in Gods)
#>
#
#Tiring to say the least. I have backed it up, read the first statement.

I have read it.  Conspicuous by its absence is any evidence or point.

#
#The latter is the fallacy of the wrong analogy. Saying someone believes
#something is hardly an information about the person at all. Saying someone
#is a theist holds much more information. Further, the correlation between
#theists and fanatism is higher than that between belief at all and fanatism
#because of the special features of theistic belief.

Truth by blatant assertion.  Evidence?
#
#
#>#>Gullibility,
#>#>blind obedience to authority, lack of scepticism, and so on, are all more
#>#>reliable indicators.  And the really dangerous people - the sources of
#>#>fanaticism - are often none of these things.  They are cynical manipulators
#>#>of the gullible, who know precisely what they are doing.
#>#
#>#That's a claim you have to support. Please note that especially in the
#>#field of theism, the leaders believe what they say.
#>
#>If you believe that, you're incredibly naive.
#>
#
#You, Frank O'Dwyer, are living in a dream world. I wonder if there is any
#base of discussion left after such a statement. As a matter of fact, I think
#you are ignorant of human nature. Even when one starts with something one does
#not believe, one gets easily fooled into actually believing what one says.
#
#To give you the benefit of the doubt, prove your statement.

The onus of proof is on you, sunshine.  What makes you think that
theist leaders believe what they say?  Especially when they say
one thing and do another, or say one thing closely followed by its
opposite?  The practice is not restricted to theism, but it's there
for anyone to see.  It's almost an epidemic in this country.

Just for instance, if it is harder for a camel to pass thru' the eye
of a needle, why is the Catholic church such a wealthy land-owner?  Why
are there churches to the square inch in my country?
#
#>#>Now, *some*
#>#>brands of theism, and more precisely *some* theists, do tend to fanaticism,
#>#>I grant you.  To tar all theists with this brush is bigotry, not a reasoned
#>#>argument - and it reads to me like a warm-up for censorship and restriction
#>#>of religious freedom.  Ever read Animal Farm?
#>#>
#>#That's a straw man. And as usually in discussions with you one has to
#>#repeat it: Read what I have written above: not every theism leads to
#>#fanatism, and not all fanatism is caused by theism. The point is,
#>#there is a correlation, and it comes from innate features of theism.
#>
#>No, some of it comes from features which *some* theism has in common
#>with *some* fanaticism.    Your last statement simply isn't implied by
#>what you say before, because you're trying to sneak in "innate features
#>of [all] theism".  The word you're groping for is "some".
#>
#
#Bogus again. Not all theism as is is fanatic. However, the rest already
#gives backup for the statement about the correlation about fanatism and
#theism. And further, the specialty of other theistic beliefs allows them
#to switch to fanatism easily. It takes just a nifty improvement in the
#theology.

Truth by blatant assertion.
#
#
#>#Gullibility, by the way, is one of them.
#>
#>No shit, Sherlock.  So why not talk about gullibility instead of theism,
#>since it seems a whole lot more relevant to the case you have, as opposed
#>to the case you are trying to make?
#>
#
#Because there is more about theism that the attraction to gullible people
#causing the correlation. And the whole discussion started that way by the
#statement that theism is meaningfully correlated to fanatism, which you
#challenged.

Indeed I did.  As I recall, I asked for evidence.  What is the correlation
of which you speak?
#
#
#>#And to say that I am going to forbid religion is another of your straw
#>#men. Interesting that you have nothing better to offer.
#>
#>I said it reads like a warm up to that.  That's because it's an irrational
#>and bogus tirade, and has no other use than creating a nice Them/Us
#>split in the minds of excitable people such as are to be found on either
#>side of church walls.
#>
#
#Blah blah blah. I am quite well aware that giving everyone their rights
#protects me better from fanatics than the other way round.

Of course, other people are always fanatics, never oneself.  Your
wish to slur all theists seems pretty fanatical to me.
#
#It is quite nice to see that you are actually implying a connection between
#that argument and the rise of fanatism. So far, it is just another of your
#assertions.

So?  You can do it.
#
#
#>#>|>(2)  Define "irrational belief".  e.g., is it rational to believe that
#>#>|>     reason is always useful?
#>#>|>
#>#>|
#>#>|Irrational belief is belief that is not based upon reason. The latter has
#>#>|been discussed for a long time with Charley Wingate. One point is that
#>#>|the beliefs violate reason often, and another that a process that does
#>#>|not lend itself to rational analysis does not contain reliable information.
#>#>
#>#>Well, there is a glaring paradox here:  an argument that reason is useful
#>#>based on reason would be circular, and argument not based on reason would
#>#>be irrational.  Which is it?
#>#>
#>#That's bogus. Self reference is not circular. And since the evaluation of
#>#usefulness is possible within rational systems, it is allowed.
#>
#>O.K., it's oval.  It's still begging the question, however.  And though
#>that certainly is allowed, it's not rational.  And you claiming to be
#>rational and all.
#>
#
#Another of your assertions. No proof, no evidence, just claims.

Hey - I learned it from you. Did I do good?
#
#
#>At the risk of repeating myself, and hearing "we had that before" [we
#>didn't hear a _refutation_ before, so we're back.   Deal with it] :
#>you can't use reason to demonstrate that reason is useful.  Someone
#>who thinks reason is crap won't buy it, you see.
#>
#
#That is unusually weak even for you. The latter implies that my proof
#depends on their opinion. Somehow who does not accept that there are
#triangles won't accept Pythagoras. Wow, that's an incredible insight.
#I don't have to prove them wrong in their opinion. It is possible to
#show that their systems leave out useful information respectively claims
#unreliable or even absurd statements to be information.

Totally circular, and totally useless.
#
#Their wish to believe makes them believe. Things are judges by their appeal,
#and not by their information. It makes you feel good when you believe that
#may be good for them, but it contains zillions of possible pitfalls. From
#belief despite contrary evidence to the bogus proofs they attempt.

Truth by blatant assertion.  I've seen as many bogus proofs of the
non-existence of gods as I have of their existence.

#
#Rational systems, by the way, does not mean that every data has to come from
#logical analysis, the point is that the evaluation of the data does not
#contradict logic. It easily follows that such a system does not allows to
#evaluate if its rational in itself. Yes, it is possible to evaluate that
#it is rational in a system that is not rational by the fallacies of that
#system, but since the validity of the axioms is agreed upon, that has as
#little impact as the possibility of a demon ala Descartes.

This just doesn't parse, sorry.
#
#So far it just a matter of consistency. I use ratiional arguments to show
#that my system is consistent or that theirs isn't. The evaluation of the

Nor this.
#predictions does not need rationality. It does not contradict, however.
#
#
#>#Your argument is as silly as proving mathematical statements needs mathematics
#>#and mathematics are therfore circular.
#>
#>Anybody else think Godel was silly?
#>
#
#Stream of consciousness typing? What is that supposed to mean?
#
#
#>#>The first part of the second statement contains no information, because
#>#>you don't say what "the beliefs" are.  If "the beliefs" are strong theism
#>#>and/or strong atheism, then your statement is not in general true.  The
#>#>second part of your sentence is patently false - counterexample: an
#>#>axiomatic datum does not lend itself to rational analysis, but is
#>#>assumed to contain reliable information regardless of what process is
#>#>used to obtain it.
#>#>
#>#
#>#I've been speaking of religious systems with contradictory definitions
#>#of god here.
#>#
#>#An axiomatic datum lends itself to rational analysis, what you say here
#>#is a an often refuted fallacy. Have a look at the discussion of the
#>#axiom of choice. And further, one can evaluate axioms in larger systems
#>#out of which they are usually derived. "I exist" is derived, if you want
#>#it that way.
#>#
#>#Further, one can test the consistency and so on of a set of axioms.
#>#
#>#what is it you are trying to say?
#>
#>That at some point, people always wind up saying "this datum is reliable"
#>for no particular reason at all.  Example: "I am not dreaming".
#>
#
#Nope. There is evidence for it. The trick is that the choice of an axiomatic
#basis of a system is difficult, because the possibilities are interwoven.
#One therefore chooses that with the least assumptions or with assumptions
#that are necessary to get information out of the system anyway.

I'd like to see this alleged evidence.
#
#One does not need to define axioms in order to define an evaluation method
#for usefulness, the foundation is laid by how one feels at all (that's not
#how one feels about it).

I see.  You have no irrational beliefs.  But then, fanatics never do, do
they?

#
#>#>|Compared the evidence theists have for their claims to the strength of
#>#>|their demands makes the whole thing not only irrational but antirational.
#>#>
#>#>I can't agree with this until you are specific - *which* theism?  To
#>#>say that all theism is necessarily antirational requires a proof which
#>#>I suspect you do not have.
#>#>
#>#
#>#Using the traditonal definition of gods. Personal, supernatural entities
#>#with objective effects on this world. Usually connected to morals and/or
#>#the way the world works.
#>
#>IMO, any belief about such gods is necessarily irrational.  That does
#>not mean that people who hold them are in principle opposed to the exercise of
#>intelligence.  Some atheists are also scientists, for example.
#>
#
#They don't use theism when doing science. Or it wouldn't be science. Please
#note that subjective data lend themselves to a scientific treatment as well.
#They just prohibit formulating them as objective statements.

Ergo, nothing is objective.  Fair enough.
#
#
#>#>|The affinity to fanatism is easily seen. It has to be true because I believe
#>#>|it is nothing more than a work hypothesis. However, the beliefs say they are
#>#>|more than a work hypothesis.
#>#>
#>#>I don't understand this.  Can you formalise your argument?
#>#
#>#Person A believes system B becuase it sounds so nice. That does not make
#>#B true, it is at best a work hypothesis. However, the content of B is that
#>#it is true AND that it is more than a work hypothesis. Testing or evaluating
#>#evidence for or against it  therefore dismissed because B (already believed)
#>#says it is wronG/ a waste  of time/ not possible. Depending on the further
#>#contents of B Amalekites/Idolaters/Protestants are to be killed, this can
#>#have interesting effects.
#>
#>Peculiar definition of interesting, but sure.  Now show that a belief
#>in gods entails the further contents of which you speak.   Why aren't my
#>catholic neighbours out killing the protestants, for example?   Maybe they
#>don't believe in it.  Maybe it's the conjunction of "B asserts B" and
#>"jail/kill dissenters" that is important, and the belief in gods is
#>entirely irrelevant.  It certainly seems so to me, but then I have no
#>axe to grind here.
#>
#
#The example with your neighbours is a fallacy. That *your* neighbours don't
#says little about others. And there were times when exactly that happened.

Nope, it's not a fallacy.   It just doesn't go to the correlation you
wish to see.
#
#And tell me, when it is not irrelevant, why are such statements about
#Amalekites and Idolaters in the Holy Books? Please note that one could
#edit them out when they are not relevant anymore. Because gods don't err?
#What does that say about that message?

Excuse me - THE Holy Books?
#
#And how come we had theists saying genocides ordered by god are ok. A god
#is the easiest way to excuse anything, and therefore highly attracting to
#fanatics. Not to mention the effect interpretation by these fanatics can
#have on the rest of the believers. Happens again and again and again.

A god is neither the easiest way to excuse anything, nor the only way.


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Could somebody please _email_ me some info on either what gif or iff
file formats are, or where I can get such info?

thanx


Could someone tell me what the density of skull bone is or direct me to
a reference that contains this info?  I would appreciate it very much.
Thanks.

Vinay


Dear Elias,

I counted at least 4 such answers in public (plus whatever private
email replies you may have received), yet you refuse to accept
anything.  Perhaps you are better off in the private world of the
"Center for Policy Research" in Iceland where you can define
"sensible" in whatever way makes you feel most comfortable.


	If there was a large propane tank, and it was breached, don't
	you think that there would be an identifiable explosion?
	Further, the BD members have as much reason to lie as the
	Gov't.

	They'd only autopsied one body when this information was released.
	I wouldn't doubt though

	The only evidence that exists right now (at least what we know
	about) is various claims and counter claims. I'm waiting until
	the hard evidence is released. What about you?

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	I am looking for a HP28s or HP28sx calculator. If anyone has one they are getting rid of please let me know. reply to jmparkin@mtu.edu
thanks,
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I am looking for the email address of the World Health Organization,
in particular the address for the Department of Nursing or the Chief
Scientist for Nursing: Dr. Miriam Hirschfeld. The snail-mail address I
have is the following:

    World Health Organization
    20 Avenue Appia
    1211 Geneva 27
    Switzerland

Please respond directly to me. Thank you for your assistance.

   ---   elg   ---


Chronic persistent hepatitis is usually diagnosed when someone does a liver
biopsy on a patient that has persistently elevated serum transaminases months
after a bout of acute viral hepatitis, or when someone is found to have
persistently elevated transaminases on routine screening tests. The degree of
elevation (in the serum transaminases) can be trivial, or as much as ten times
normal. Other blood chemistries are usually normal.
As a rule, patients with CPH have no clinical signs of liver disease.
Chronic active hepatitis can also be asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic, at
least initially, and that's why it's important to tell them apart by means of
a biopsy. The patient with CPH only needs to be reassured. The patient with
CAH needs to be treated.

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Hi everyone,
I just had a quick question.
Does anyone know whether or not the MacIIvx supports the new SCSI-2 form, or
do any Macs support it.
Thanks for reading,
Wes


I'd like to get a system running OS/2 2.0 GA talking to a network of PCs
running Windows for Workgroups.  Acting as a server would be wonderful,
but client access would be enough.

Can I run WFW 's NET utilities in a DOS box?  Or is there a way to actually
get OS/2 to talk to WFW?  Will OS/2 LanMan clients talk to WFW?

Dazed and confused,


Aside to the moderator:

I won't quote any of it, but there are several errors in the article.
Not things that are just differences of opinion, but the writer just
plain has his facts confused.

For example, Kip McKean was *asked* to come to the Lexington church
by the leaders there. He brought no team. He actually had been in
Charleston, IL up to that point. He had many friends, even leaders in
Gainesville, telling him not to go, because people in the Northeast
weren't "open" and he'd be wasting his time and talents. Really!!
(This fact was a kind of "inside joke" at one point after the church
in Boston took off so well... Not open, indeed!) ;-)

I could take it on point by point, but I am not in a position to know
one way or the other about some things in the article. I just wanted
to point out that it contains misinformation.

Mark


Well, I dived in feet first and reverse engineered the .PRJ file as much
as I needed to - extracted the mapping icon information - which is
when it dawned on me that 3D Studio is useless for my needs. I need
a mapping icon per applied texture.  I want to use a special purpose
graphics computer for rendering the 3DS models and it requires a texture
rule/plane to be specified in 3Space, i.e. position/orientation of the
mapping rule.  Since only one mapping icon is used in 3DS to apply
textures to ALL objects/faces, it renders (no pun intended) 3DS totally
unsuitable for my needs.

Anyone got a contact for Alias Upfront or any other good modeller for a
PC?  I must be able to specify texture rules (one per texture) and this
must be saved in a file which I can read.  I haven't found any info on Alias
in the copy of the faq that I have.


bruce@liv.ac.uk (Bruce Stephens) suggests different levels of acceptance of
homosexuality:

I would add 4': our churches should accept homosexual orientation but hold all
people to certain standards of sexual behavior.  Promiscuity, abuse of power
relationships, harrassment, compulsivity are equally out of place in the lives
of homosexual as of heterosexual people.

Of course, this would bring up the dread shibboleth of homosexual marriage,
and we couldn't have that! :-)


My CD300 (external, just arrived) has 2-8 plus Cinderella & Game Demo.

--Pinghua


About a year and half ago when I first started riding, I took a MSF course. I
have taken those lessons to heart.  Over the past year I have had only a few
near collisions with traffic morons on four wheels.  Yesterday I got to add
another to the list but with this one I felt the most helpless.  I am sitting
at a light about 1 - 2 car lengths behind a car, a wise decsion.  Suddenly I
hear screeching tires.  I dart my eyes to my mirrors and realize it's the
moroon flying up right behind me, in my panic I pop my clutch and stall the
bike.  Luckily the guy stops a foot behind my rear wheel.


If you've got a good propulsion system that's not useful for deceleration,
sure you can use chemical rockets for that part... but even just doing the
deceleration chemically is a major headache.  We're talking seriously high
cruising velocities; taking the velocity down nearly to zero for a Pluto
orbit isn't easy with chemical fuels.

Incidentally, solar sails are not going to be suitable as the acceleration
system for something like this.  They don't go anywhere quickly.  (I speak
as head of mission planning for the Canadian Solar Sail Project, although
that is more or less an honorary title right now because CSSP is dormant.)
They can't fly a mission like this unless you start talking about very
advanced systems that drop in very close to the Sun first.


This is normally the case, but make sure you get a board with a plug in oscillator
as you will screw up your warranty if you start to solder the board.


[much more deleted]

Here is how! Lets write a DOCUMENT which includes all the reasons
we oppose Clipper, in clear, concise, non-techincal manner. I urge
everyone of you to take the (very simple) "start" below and repost it
with changes. Let the text evolve until we reach something most of us
like. Then, all of you should send a copy (with a personnel letter)
to your congress critter, local reporter on sci/tech, etc.

Please, to make this a success, try to post only an "agreed" version,
not flames. To respond to a flame to this, please change the subject
to, e.g, "clipper scope - discussion".

-- Michael Golan
   mg@cs.princeton.edu

[all of these are points - which should be made into paragraphs]

What is wrong with the clipper chip - By usenet users
-----------------------------------------------------

1) It is secret.
2) How can we trust the escrow agencies?
3) It is not cost-effective
4) We want other encryption systems, the government seems to want to
   disallow it in the future
5) Anyone can build a non-key system
6) We are worried about a back door
7) Once everyone uses a clipper chip, the mechanism for a Big-Brother
   government is in place, a change of government can lead to it.
   Especially since the escrow agencies operation is not governed by
   law (so the president can change the rules to allow free access to
   the keys at any time, e.g., during war)
8) Few criminals are caught by wiretaps, the cost [and risks] are unjustified
9) Once the FBI get hold of a key, it can decrypt past and future conversations


Hi!

	I have a question which is not directly related to X Screen Saver.

What X Screen Saver does is to blank the screen if it has been idle for
some time.  I don't want my screen to go blank but to get locked or call
xlock program.

	Is there a parallel call to XSetScreenSaver() which locks my screen
or call my lock program after certain amount of idle time?  Or is there a
way to find out how long the server has been idle?


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I'll tell you all that I know about chromium.  But before I do, I want to
get a few things off my chest.  I just got blasted in e-mail for my kidney
stone posts.  Kidney stones are primarily caused by diet, as is heart
disease and cancer.  When I give dietary advise, it is not intended to
encourage people reading this news group(or Sci. Med. Nutrition where I do
most of my posting) to avoid seeing a doctor.  Nothing can be further from
the truth.  Kidney stones can be caused by tumors and this possibility has to
be ruled out.  But once it is, diet is a good way of preventing a reoccurance.
Same thing with heart disease and cancer, if you suspect that you may have
a problem with one of these diseases, don't use what I'm going to tell you
or what you read in some book to avoid going to a doctor.  You have to go.
Hopefully you will find a doctor who knows enough about nutrition to help
you change your risk factors for both diseases as part of a treatment
program(but the odds are that you will not and that's why I'm here).  When
my wife detected a lump in here breast I didn't say, don't worry my vitamin
E will take care of it.  Any breast lump has to be worked up by a physician,
plan and simple.  If it's begnin(which most are) fine, then maybe a diet
change and supplementation will prevent further breast lumps from occuring.
But let me tell you right now, if you have tried diet and supplementation
and another lump returns, get your butt into the doctor's office as fast as
your little feet can carry you(better yet, have a mammography done on a
regular basis, my wife kept putting her's off, both myself and her
gynocologist told her she needed to have one done).  Her gynocologist even
scheduled one, but she didn't show up(too busy running the Operating Room for
the biggest Hospital in Tulsa).

One more thing, I am not an orthomolecular nutritionist.  This group uses
high dose vitamins and minerals to treat all kinds of disease.  There is
absolutely no doubt in my mind that vitamins and minerals can and do have
drug actions in the body.  But you talk about flying blind, man this is
really blind treatment.  No drug could ever be used as these vitamins and
minerals are being used.  I'm not saying that some of this stuff couldn't
be right on the money, it may well be.  But my approach to nutrition is a
lot like that of Weinsier and Morgan, the two M.D's who wrote the new
Clinical Nutrition textbook.  My push is the nutrient reserves and the lab
tests needed to measure these reserves and then supplementation or diet
changes to get these reserves built up to where they should be to let you
handle stress.  That's where I'm coming from folks.  Blast away if you want,
I'm not going to change.  Put me in your killfile if you want, I really
don't care.  I'm averaging 8-10 e-mail messages a day from people who think
that I've got something important to say.  But I'm also getting hit by a
few with an axe to grind.  That's life.

Chromium is one of the trace elements.  It has a very limited(but very
important) role in the body.  It is used to form glucose tolerance factor
(GTF).  GTF is made up of chromium, nicinamide(niacin), glycine, cysteine
and glutamic.  Only the chromium and the niacin are needed from the diet to
form GTF.  Some foods already have GTF(Liver, brewers or nutritional yeast,
and black pepper).  When chromium is in GTF, a pretty good absorption is
seen(about 20%).  But when it is simply present as a mineral or mineral
chelate(chromium picolinate) it's absorption is much lower(1 to 2%, lowest
for all the minerals).  I've been posting in Misc. Fitness and chromium has
come up there several times as a "fat burner".  Chromium is among the least
toxic of the minerals so you could really load yourself up and not really
do any harm.  I wouldn't do it though.  The adequate and safe range for
chromium is 50 to 200ug per day.  The average American is getting about
30ug per day from his/her diet.  Chromium levels decrease with age and many
believe that adult onset diabetes is primarily a chromium deficiency.  I
can cite you several studies that have been done with glucose tolerance in
Type II diabetes but I'm not going to because for each positive one, there
also seems to be a negative one as well.  I'm convinced that the problem is
bioavailability.  When yeast(GTF) is used, good results are obtained but when
chromium itself is used the results are usually negative.  In addition to
Type II diabetes, chromiuum has been examined in cardiovascular disease and
glucoma, again with mixed results as far as cardiovascular disease is
concerned

Since a high blood glucose level can lead to cardiovascular disease,
this possible link with chromium isn't too surprising.  Glucoma is a little
more interesting.  Muscle eye focusing activity is primarily an insulin
responsive glucose-driven metabolic function.  If this eye focusing activity
is impaired(by a lack of glucose due to a poor insulin response), intraocular
pressure is believed to be elevated.  In a fairly large study of 400 pts with
glaucoma, the one consistent finding was a low RBC chromium. J. Am. Coll.
Nutr. 10(5):536,(1991).  But this one preliminary study should not prompt
people to go out and start popping chromium supplements.  For one thing,
just about every older person is going to have a low RBC chromium unless
they have been taking chromium suppleemnts(yeast).  Since glucoma is often
found in older people, it's not too surprising that chromium was low in the
RBC's.  If chromium supplementation could reverse glucoma, that would
prompt some attention.  I suspect that there will be a clinical trail to
check out this possible chromium link to glucoma.

You could find out what your body chromium pool size was by either the RBC
chromium test or hair analysis.  Most clinical labs are not going to run a
RBC chromium.  There are plenty of labs that will do a hair and nail
analysis for you, but I wouldn't use them.  There is just too much funny
business going on in these unregulated labs right now.

Here's Weinsier and Morgan, advise on chromium.  They do not consider
chromium to be one of those minerals for which a reliable clinical test is
available(they don't like the hair and nail analysis labs either, and they
also recognize the RBC chromium is primarily a research test that is not
routinely available in most clinical chemistry labs).  This has to change
and as more labs run a RBC chromiuum, it will.  What then do they suggest?
Make a diagnosis of chromium deficiency based on a documented clinical
response to chromium(run a glucose tolerance test before and after chromium
supplementation).  Once you make the diagnosis, put the patient on 200ug of
CrCl3 orally each day or 10grams of yeast per day.

What's my advise?  Don't take chromium supplements to try to loose weight
(they just do not work that way).  If you want to take them and then
exercise, that would be great.  Do include yeast as part of your diet(most
Americans are not getting enough chromium from their diet).  If you do have
a poor glucose tolerance, ask your doctor to check your chromium status.
When he or she says, "what in the world are you talking about", just say,
please get a copy of Weinsier and Morgan's new Clinical Nutrition textbook
and do what they say to do with patients who present with a poor glucose
tolerance.  If you can't do that, I'll find a doctor who can, thank you
very much.


It depends. If, in the judgment of the umpire the batter made no
attempt to avoid getting hit, the batter is awarded first for a
base on balls. If the umpire rules he did try to get out of the
way, he's awarded first because of a hit batsman.

Ryan Robbins
Penobscot Hall
University of Maine


What's so special about this label, that their discs are going for
upwards of $6 more than most retail outlets average prices for CDs?


I read in a recent Tidbits(171-2?) about the possibility of putting
a 68030 in a PB100. I am interested in doing so, but would like
to know more about it. Does it involve just replacing the 68000 that
is on the daughterboard, or does it involve getting a new daughter-
board. Also, would the 68030 be able to run QT with the PB100's
screen(not pretty I know, but possible?) And of course, what would
the damage be ($). Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance. Jay Fogel


What about black hispanics?

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Man, you had better do some SERIOUS reading. I really, really doubt that you
meant to say this.

Mike


This is a question aimed at those who have done some server code hacking:

I am attempting to add a working SaveScreen function to a new
server.  I have been able to get the screen to blank out properly, and through
debugging I can see that my savescreen function is being called with on=0,
which (for some arcane reason) means to blank the screen.

My problem is that this function is never being called again with on=1, even
after I have moved the mouse and/or typed some keys.  My question is:  what am
I likely to be missing that would cause this problem?  I copied the basic
design of my function from the existing versions:

static Bool next_savescreen(scr,on)
ScreenPtr scr;
Bool on;
{

  /* this was copied from the omron server code -- is it the right way? */
  if (on != SCREEN_SAVER_ON) {
		nextSetLastEventTime();
  }

  if (on == SCREEN_SAVER_ON) { /* Save user's current setting */
		next_save_screen_brightness = NXScreenBrightness(my_eventhandle);
		NXSetScreenBrightness( my_eventhandle, 0.0); /* Blank the screen */
  }
  else {											 /* Unblank the screen */
		NXSetScreenBrightness( my_eventhandle, next_save_screen_brightness);
  }

  return TRUE;
}

I can see in the server/os code where the screensaver is called to turn on the
saver, but I cannot find where it "wakes up" the server and unblanks the
screen.

Any tips/help would be appreciated.

Thanks.


Have Belfour and Roenick done another disappearing act at chips are
 down time?  When I saw them it looked like the Blackhawks' defense
 might carry them along way in the playoffs.

 Well they held St. Louis to 17 shots in game 2 and lost.


Cause and cures for fever blisters respectfully requested.
Thanks!
            :-D iane


       ^^^^^^^^

In four of the five games Finns have played, the goalie has been chosen
the best player of the opposing team. (In the fifth, the finnish goalie,
Ketterer was elected the best Finn) Has this to do with the goalies
having good days in these games, or are the finnish players just lousy
scorers???

Anyway, quite few goals have been scored in these games in generally
(the exception of course being Canada vs. Italy).  It looks like the
goalies are getting too good.  Is this due to their equipment getting
bigger, so they cover more (their gloves, e.g. seem to be much bigger
now than they were some years ago).

Anybody know if the rules on goalie equipment has changed this way????

Mikko Wihervaara


I too have had premature ventricular heartbeat, starting in 1974.  (These
are not, by the way, "extra" heartbeats.  This is how they feel, and
this is how I described them initially to the doctor, but they're
actually *premature* heartbeats.  I would sometimes experience a lapse
after one of these that went on for a suffocatingly long period of time,
making me wonder if my heart were ever going to beat again.)

I had them persistently for eighteen years.  Then I went on a low-fat
diet, and they just stopped.  I haven't had a single episode of PVH
for almost two years.  I know:  correlation does not imply causation.
This is just FWIW.


WHAT??!!!!

You can't remove it, unless you register?
You gotta be joking, right?
What happens if I get a demo-version of that program, install it, and then
decide that I don't like it.  Do I have to register to be able to get rid
of it?  (Hell, no, that is the last thing I would think of!)
If that is what you mean, then you would better make pretty sure, that a
statement to that effect is printed loud and clear on the package!

A better way to implement the above mentioned scheme is (IMHO) to allow
anyone to install the program, but if they register, they get some
additional features enabled.  It could mean only one new .EXE file needed
to be copied, to have got the full-version of the program.
Of course anyone is _free_ to _delete_ or _remove_ that program at whatever
time they like.

Still, we face the trouble of 'moving' the new .EXE file around.  That
could be solved by having the user registering him self, and get back a
specially marked for him (or her) a new .exe file.

As for some sort of limitations, here are some suggestions:
Limit the size of data that the program can work with,
Disable saving the data,
Print it out with some defects in the output (but be sure to mark them as
such)
Let some pop-up screen appear for ca. 10 secs. when the program is started
and/or exited

etc....
but DON'T have it that you _must_ register to be able to remove it.


I have a certificate for 2 round-trip airfares to the Bahamas.
Expiration date is one year from now.

The maximum value, depending on time and location, is estimated at
$1628. I am asking for $1500 or best offer.

For more information, call Goh at

(415) 497-0663

or send mail to

kmgoh@leland.stanford.edu


 I was told by my doctor

I've had three children and the pain was different in degree for each.  I
think it just depends.  I was impressed by how awful a kidney stone seemed
to be, when I saw a relative with one.  I bet they depend, too--some are
probably worse than others.

Pain--yucch.


If you won't believe anything the government says, and the press
is not reliable according to the same logic, then what do you base
your statements on?  Wild speculation laced with a healthy dose
of paranoia?


Kaveh,

all of the data included with in the Cyberware_demo is
non-proprietary, use it as you like. I just ask that you give us
credit if you use it in a research paper/project and send us the
results.

thanks,

geo
Cyberware
--
george dabrowski
Cyberware Labs