{"text":"I am a little confused on all of the models of the 88-89 bonnevilles.\nI have heard of the LE SE LSE SSE SSEI. Could someone tell me the\ndifferences are far as features or performance. I am also curious to\nknow what the book value is for prefereably the 89 model. And how much\nless than book value can you usually get them for. In other words how\nmuch are they in demand this time of year. I have heard that the mid-spring\nearly summer is the best time to buy.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I'm not familiar at all with the format of these \"X-Face:\" thingies, but\nafter seeing them in some folks' headers, I've *got* to *see* them (and\nmaybe make one of my own)!\n\nI've got \"dpg-view\" on my Linux box (which displays \"uncompressed X-Faces\")\nand I've managed to compile [un]compface too... but now that I'm *looking*\nfor them, I can't seem to find any X-Face:'s in anyones news headers!  :-(\n\nCould you, would you, please send me your \"X-Face:\" header?\n\nI *know* I'll probably get a little swamped, but I can handle it.\n\n\t...I hope.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nIn a word, yes.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nThey were attacking the Iraqis to drive them out of Kuwait,\na country whose citizens have close blood and business ties\nto Saudi citizens.  And me thinks if the US had not helped out\nthe Iraqis would have swallowed Saudi Arabia, too (or at \nleast the eastern oilfields).  And no Muslim country was doing\nmuch of anything to help liberate Kuwait and protect Saudi\nArabia; indeed, in some masses of citizens were demonstrating\nin favor of that butcher Saddam (who killed lotsa Muslims),\njust because he was killing, raping, and looting relatively\nrich Muslims and also thumbing his nose at the West.\n\nSo how would have *you* defended Saudi Arabia and rolled\nback the Iraqi invasion, were you in charge of Saudi Arabia???\n\n\nI think that it is a very good idea to not have governments have an\nofficial religion (de facto or de jure), because with human nature\nlike it is, the ambitious and not the pious will always be the\nones who rise to power.  There are just too many people in this\nworld (or any country) for the citizens to really know if a \nleader is really devout or if he is just a slick operator.\n\n\nYou make it sound like these guys are angels, Ilyess.  (In your\nclarinet posting you edited out some stuff; was it the following???)\nFriday's New York Times reported that this group definitely is\nmore conservative than even Sheikh Baz and his followers (who\nthink that the House of Saud does not rule the country conservatively\nenough).  The NYT reported that, besides complaining that the\ngovernment was not conservative enough, they have:\n\n\t- asserted that the (approx. 500,000) Shiites in the Kingdom\n\t  are apostates, a charge that under Saudi (and Islamic) law\n\t  brings the death penalty.  \n\n\t  Diplomatic guy (Sheikh bin Jibrin), isn't he Ilyess?\n\n\t- called for severe punishment of the 40 or so women who\n\t  drove in public a while back to protest the ban on\n\t  women driving.  The guy from the group who said this,\n\t  Abdelhamoud al-Toweijri, said that these women should\n\t  be fired from their jobs, jailed, and branded as\n\t  prostitutes.\n\n\t  Is this what you want to see happen, Ilyess?  I've\n\t  heard many Muslims say that the ban on women driving\n\t  has no basis in the Qur'an, the ahadith, etc.\n\t  Yet these folks not only like the ban, they want\n\t  these women falsely called prostitutes?  \n\n\t  If I were you, I'd choose my heroes wisely,\n\t  Ilyess, not just reflexively rally behind\n\t  anyone who hates anyone you hate.\n\n\t- say that women should not be allowed to work.\n\n\t- say that TV and radio are too immoral in the Kingdom.\n\nNow, the House of Saud is neither my least nor my most favorite government\non earth; I think they restrict religious and political reedom a lot, among\nother things.  I just think that the most likely replacements\nfor them are going to be a lot worse for the citizens of the country.\nBut I think the House of Saud is feeling the heat lately.  In the\nlast six months or so I've read there have been stepped up harassing\nby the muttawain (religious police---*not* government) of Western women\nnot fully veiled (something stupid for women to do, IMO, because it\nsends the wrong signals about your morality).  And I've read that\nthey've cracked down on the few, home-based expartiate religious\ngatherings, and even posted rewards in (government-owned) newspapers\noffering money for anyone who turns in a group of expartiates who\ndare worship in their homes or any other secret place. So the\ngovernment has grown even more intolerant to try to take some of\nthe wind out of the sails of the more-conservative opposition.\nAs unislamic as some of these things are, they're just a small\ntaste of what would happen if these guys overthrow the House of\nSaud, like they're trying to in the long run.\n\nIs this really what you (and Rached and others in the general\nwest-is-evil-zionists-rule-hate-west-or-you-are-a-puppet crowd)\nwant, Ilyess?\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nI've just spent two solid months arguing that no such thing as an\nobjective moral system exists.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nElisabeth, let's set the record straight for the nth time, I have not read \n\"The Yeast Connection\".  So anything that I say is not due to brainwashing \nby this \"hated\" book.  It's okay I guess to hate the book, by why hate me?\nElisabeth, I'm going to quote from Zinsser's Microbiology, 20th Edition.\nA book that you should be familiar with and not \"hate\". \"Candida species \ncolonize the mucosal surfaces of all humans during birth or shortly \nthereafter.  The risk of endogenous infection is clearly ever present.  \nIndeed, candidiasis occurs worldwide and is the most common systemic \nmycosis.\"  Neutrophils play the main role in preventing a systemic \ninfection(candidiasis) so you would have to have a low neutrophil count or \n\"sick\" neutrophils to see a systemic infection.  Poor diet and persistent \nparasitic infestation set many third world residents up for candidiasis.\nYour assessment of candidiasis in the U.S. is correct and I do not dispute \nit.\n\nWhat I posted was a discussion of candida blooms, without systemic \ninfection.  These blooms would be responsible for local sites of irritation\n(GI tract, mouth, vagina and sinus cavity).  Knocking down the bacterial \ncompetition for candida was proposed as a possible trigger for candida \nblooms.  Let me quote from Zinsser's again: \"However, some factors, such as \nthe use of a broad-spectrum antibacterial antibiotic, may predispose to \nboth mucosal and systemic infections\".  I was addressing mucosal infections\n(I like the term blooms better).  The nutrition course that I teach covers \nthis effect of antibiotic treatment as well as the \"cure\".  I guess that \nyour nutrition course does not, too bad.  \n\n\n\nMy, my Elisabeth, do I detect a little of Steve Dyer in you?  If you \nnoticed my faculty rank, I'm a biochemist, not a microbiologist.\nCandida is classifed as a fungus(according to Zinsser's).  But, as you point \nout, it displays dimorphism.  It is capable of producing yeast cells, \npseudohyphae and true hyphae.  Elisabeth, you are probably a microbiologist \nand that makes a lot of sense to you.  To a biochemist, it's a lot of \nGreek.  So I called it a yeast-like fungus, go ahead and crucify me.\n\nYou know Elisabeth, I still haven't been able to figure out why such a small \nlittle organism like Candida can bring out so much hostility in people in \nSci. Med.  And I must admitt that I got sucked into the mud slinging too.\nI keep hoping that if people will just take the time to think about what \nI've said, that it will make sense.  I'm not asking anyone here to buy into \n\"The Yeast Connection\" book because I don't know what's in that book, plain \nand simple. And to be honest with you, I'm beginning to wish that it was never \nwritten.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Dishonest money dwindles away, but he who gathers money little by little makes\nit grow. \nProverbs 13:11\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"A friend of mine managed to get a copy of a computerised Greek and Hebrew \nLexicon called \"The Word Perfect\" (That is not the word processing \npackage WordPerfect). However, some one wiped out the EXE file, and she \nhas not been able to restore it. There are no distributors of the package in \nSouth Africa. I would appreciate it, if some one could email me the file, or \nat least tell me where I could get it from. \n\nMy email address is\n\tfortmann@superbowl.und.ac.za     or\n\tfortmann@shrike.und.ac.za\n \nMany thanks.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\n   We have a requirement for dynamically closing and opening\ndifferent display servers within an X application in a manner such\nthat at any time there is only one display associated with the client.\n\n   Assumming a proper cleanup is done during the transition should\nwe anticipate any problems.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":":  \n: well, i have lots of experience with scanning in images and altering\n: them.  as for changing them back into negatives, is that really possible?\n\n: (stuff deleted)\n\n: jennifer urso:  the oh-so bitter woman of utter blahness(but cheerful\n: undertones)\n\nI use Aldus Photostyler on the PC and I can turn a colour or black and white\nimage into a negative or turn a negative into a colour or black and white\nimage.  I don't know how it does it but it works well.  To test it I scanned\na negative and used Aldus to create a positive.  It looked better than the\nprint that the film developers gave me.\n\n\n-- ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I have uploaded the Windows On-Line Review shareware edition to\nftp.cica.indiana.edu as \/pub\/pc\/win3\/uploads\/wolrs7.zip.\n\nIt is an on-line magazine which contains reviews of some shareware\nproducts...I grabbed it from the Windows On-Line BBS.\n\n--","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Most graphics systems I have seen have drawing routines that also specify\na color for drawing, like\n\nDrawpoint(x,y,color) or Drawline(x1,y1,x2,y2,color) or\nFillrectangle(x1,y1,x2,y2,color) \n\nWith X, I have to do something like \nXSetForeground(current_color)\nXDrawPoint(d,w,x,y)\n\nWhy split this into two functions? Why did X designers decide to not associate\nthe color with the object being drawn, and instead associate it with the\ndisplay it is being drawn on?","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nYou *know* that putting something like this out on the newsgroup is *only*\ngoing to generate flames, not discussion. Try adding some substance to\nthe issue of \"gestures\" you mentioned.\n\nWhat is it you feel that Israel *has* offered as a \"gesture\"? What would\nyou (*realistically*) expect to see presented by the Arabs\/Palestinians\nin the way of \"gesture\"?\n\n\nWhat are the \"rules\" that have been bent by Arab actions? It would seem\nthat the Israeli deportations were seen by the other side as an example\nof \"changing the rules\". \n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nAccusation?  I thought it was a recommendation.  (I mean, I did grow up there,\nI oughta know).\n\n\nBring the truck and about 10 pounds of crawfish and we'll talk.\n\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nProbably because it IS rape.\n\n\nSo nothing.  It may work for some, but not for others: it doesn't give any\ninsight into an overall God or overall truth of a religion- it would seem to be\ndependent solely on the individual, as well as individually-created.  And since\nChristians have failed to show us how there way of life is in any wy better\nthan ours, I do not see why the attempt to try it is necessary, or even\nparticularly attractive.\n\n\nWell, we will nerver know for sure if we were told the truth or not, but at the\nvery least there is a bit more evidence pointing to the fact that, say, there\nwas a military conflict in Vietnam 25 years ago, then there is a supernatural\ndiety who wants us to live a certain way.  The fact that Jesus warned against\nit means nothing.  *I* warn against it too.  Big deal.\n\n\nThis is not true.  The first two choices here (life and death) are scantily\ndocumented, and the last one is total malarky unless one uses the Bible, and\nthat is totally circular.  Perhaps it be better to use the imagination, or\none's ignorance.  Someone else will address this I'm sure, and refer you to\nplenty of documentation...\n\n\nHow is this?  There is nothing more disgusting than Christian attempts to\nmanipulate\/interpret the Old Testament as being filled with signs for the\ncoming of Christ.  Every little reference to a stick or bit of wood is\nautmoatically interpreted as the Cross.  What a miscarriage of philology.\n\n\nWell, since we have skeptical hearts (thank goodness,) there is no way to get\ninto us.  Here we have the irreconcilable difference: Christians glorify\nexactly what we tend to despise or snub: trust\/belief\/faith without knowledge. \nIf I am lucky one day and I happen to be thinking of God at the same time my\nenkephalins go up, then I may associate this as a sign of God (it will \"feel\"\nright, and I will trust without knowing).  Maybe.  Religosity does not seem to\nbe anything that is conclusively arrived at, but rather it seems to be more of\na sudden affliction...\nI believe many of us were willing to die for what we believed, many of us were\nnot.  The question is, is suchg an attitude reflective of a _correct_ or\nhealthy morality.  IT would seem not to be.  The same thing could reflect\nfanaticism, for example, and is any case an expression of simple selfishness.\n-- \n\n--Adam","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"From article <C68uBG.K2w@world.std.com>, by cfw@world.std.com (Christopher F Wroten):\nGood question.\nAnswer: The EISA bus does move 32 bits rather than ISA's 8\/(16?)\n        But it still moves it at about the speed as the ISA bus.\n        I think that's either 8 or 10 mhz.\n        The local bus designs also move 32 bits like the EISA, but\n        they move the data at the cpu speed, up to 40 mhz.\n        So, on a 33mhz cpu, the local bus is moving 32bit data at\n        33 mhz, and the EISA is moving 32bit data at 8 or 10 mhz.\n        So the local bus should be 3 to 4 times faster than EISA on\n        a 33 mhz cpu.  EISA should be about two (maybe 3) times as\n        fast as ISA.\n\nThat's a very good question.  The EISA bus does have more advantages\nover the ISA bus than just it's width.  For example: more\/better \ninterrupts and bus mastering.  But these other factors do not impact\n a video card very much.  They have more impact on file servers with \nmultiple hard drives, full-throttle network cards, cd-roms, etc.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Iv'e got a problem printing with a StyleWriterII. I am printing from a IIvx\nwith 20 megs ram. I am trying to print a Quark file that has 2 fonts a couple\nof boxes and 3 gradient fills. \n\nTwo things happen: I get a \" Disk is full\" error, that I can't find documented,\nI also have parts of letters that are over one of the gradient fills get cut\noff. This only happens to the text over the fill. Text adjecent in a different\nbox is uneffected.\n\nAny ideas?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Hello,\ni'm interested in those devices too.\nCould also send me your suggestions.\nThank in advance.\nRegards.\n-- ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I said\nwhat a SILLY boy i was, now i have zillions of messages like\n\"does that include shipping\" \t\t\n\"is it scsi\"\n\"what rom version is it\"\n\"will it work on a maximegalon gargantuabrain 9000\"\nok, the deal is this - if you live in the twin cities, email me, and set\nup a time, sure, you can drop round and grab one for a tenner.\nElse\nMin order $20 (2 drives) + shipping. No guarantees they are good for\nany purpose at all (they look newish & clean), no technical\nnegotiations. They are model 525 floppytape, part # 960273-639\nrevision D. 17 pin floppy style connector on the back\nElse\nThey go in the bin - life is too short for extended negotiations over\n$10 items :-)\ncheers\nMike.\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I just called Texas' legislative bill tracking service and found out\nthat HB 1776 (Concealed Carry) is scheduled for a floor vote TODAY!\nLet those phone calls roll in.\n\nDaryl","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"This is an invitation to send articles to the Informatica magazine.\nThe first fully international issue has been published and echoes \nare quite favourable. For any information, contact (matjaz.gams@ijs.si). \n\nDear Colleague,                                        April 25, 1993\n\nNumber 1 of volume 17 of Informatica is now out of print and some of you \nwill receive it in a week or so. As you will see, the journal is structured\nin the following way: the editorial (first page); profiles (second page\n-- biography of an editor, in this issue, Terry Winograd); the edited\npart of papers (pp. 3-80); mission and research reports (A plan for\nknowledge archives project in Japan and CSLI in Stanford, pp. 81-100);\nand news and announcements (pp. 101-108). This structure is mentioned to\ngive you a suggestion how could you help to make the contents of the\njournal significant, diverse, and interesting, bringing your own views\ninto the discourse.\n   A great emphasis is given to the so-called editorial page. This page\nexpresses an opinion (belief) of the writing editor to some problems\nwithin the scope of computing and informatics, extending into other\nconcerning disciplines, e.g. cybernetics, advanced AI, cognitive sciences,\nmind, informationally concerned neural sciences, advanced technology \n(e.g. photonics), etc. I asked professor Terry Winograd to write this\npage for Number 2. I certainly would appreciate very much to get\nsuggestions or possible offers from other editors, who like to express\ntheir strong (directed) beliefs concerning a future development of the\narea in question.\n   On the second page of each Number an editor's profile is published.\nThe aim of the profile is twofold: to show his\/her professional \nachievements, interests, scientific, and philosophical orientation on\none side; to narrate his\/her life story in the environments in which\neditors has lived and live on the other side. This kind of story should\nbe instructive, adequately factically faced, contributing to the \nunderstanding of circumstances in which editors have to act and live.\n   The edited part (edited papers) is still critical. I would like to have\na stock of accepted papers in advance, so the issuing dates of a particular\nnumber can be fixed (e.g. January, April, July, and October). In situation\nright now, I ask you to help me with contributions of yours or your\ncolleagues, collaborators, students, etc. Some critical views to the\ncontemporary development of computing and informatics are appreciated.\nA special emphasis should be given also to originality by which fresh\nideas are coming into the circulation of different professional communities.\n   Reports of different occasions (symposia, conferences, meetings, etc.)\nand particularly on new books, papers, and interesting events are welcome.\nYou can send these news immediately (also by your secretary) by e-mail.\nOn the other hand, you can send books and other publications (annual\nreports, journals, calls for papers, etc.) for reviewing and publishing\nin Informatica. We in the editorial staff will manage the rest.\n   E-mail is functioning satisfactorily, so please use it in every respect.\nYou can submit editorial notes, profiles, reports, news and even complete\npapers written in standard LaTex format (especially formulas). We received\nseveral final (corrected) texts in Number 1 from different sites (US,\nRussia, etc.). In this way, you can compose reports from already typed\ntexts, using your own choice and editing, and submit them to the contact\nperson (matjaz.gams@ijs.si), who is always being on your disposal. So,\nyou will receive a prompt confirmation and any information concerning\nour common interest and job.\n\nAt the end, please do not forget: we need your cooperation and help in\nevery mentioned respect. The aim of Informatica is to open various\npossibilities of communication concerning strong scientific and \nphilosophical orientations as well as those coming up, still unrevealed,\nand on the way to become significant. Please, do not apprehend to give\nproposals, suggestions, and, certainly, contributions via the e-mail\nand by other means.\n\nSincerely yours,","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"********************* NEW PRICE ***********\n\n\tI have an extra copy of Lotus 1-2-3 ver 3.4 for DOS. this package was\noriginally $600.  I'd like to get   $75 for it.  please reply by e-mail to\njth@bach.udel.edu","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nBosnian Muslims are citizens od Bosnia-Herzegovina who identify themselves\nwith Bosnian Muslim cultural and religious tradition.\n\n\nIn Bosnia, \"Muslim\" is not merely a religious category, but an ethnic\none as well.  Actually, here are the two contradictory arguments\nmade by people on this subject:\n\n(1) There is only Serbian and Croatian nationality, and Bosnian Muslims\n    are simply Croats and Serbs of Islamic faith.\n\n(2) Bosnian Muslims are a separate nationality since they do not feel\n    themselves to be Croats nor Serbs.\n\nIn 1968, argument (2) was accepted by former Yugoslavia as valid,\nand (1) was soundly rejected.  The reasons are pragmatic: even if\nBosnian Muslims are Croats and Serbs who converted to Islam under\nTurkish rule centuries ago, none of the present generation has any\nclue what was their ancestor's actual nationality.  In fact, although\nBosnian Muslims have felt drawn to Croatian or Serbian national\nallegiance, most of them feel they have a separate cultural and\nhistoric identity.  So, arguments like \"yes, but your ancestors were\nCroats or Serbs\" carry very little weight.  Regardless of what\ntheir ancestors might have been, as long as Bosnian Muslims feel\nthat they are a separate national group, that ends the debate.\nWhat outsiders say is simply not relevant.\n\n\nIn the case of former Yugoslavia, the date is 1971, when \"Muslim nationality\"\nappeared as a census category for the first time.  This was the result\nof a sequence of decisions over the past decade, from recognizing\n\"Bosniaks\" as an ethnic group (1961) to February 1968 resolution (in B-H)\ndeclaring that Muslims are a separate nation, to formal endorsement \nof this in January 1969, and eventually to the 1971 inclusion of\n\"Muslim nationality\" choice in census forms.\n\nFor comparison, in 1948 census there were three national categories\navailable to Muslims in Bosnia-Herzegovina:\n\nSerb-Muslims:                        71,991\nCroat-Muslims:                       25,295\nMuslims, ethnically undeclared:     788,403\n\nThis clearly demonstrates that Muslims feel themselves to be their own\nnationality.  Only a tiny minority felt able to choose Serb or Croat\nnationality.  Census results show that Bosnian Muslims have\nconsistently opted for a third category: in 1948 they chose \"undeclared\",\nin 1953 they chose \"Yugoslavs\", in 1961 both \"Yugoslavs\" and \"Bosniak \nethnic group\", and in 1971, 1981 and 1991 they chose \"Muslim nationality\".\n\nPerhaps the term \"Bosnian Muslim nationality\" is too confusing for\nthe rest of the world.  But, in the present context, we ARE talking\nabout Muslims as nationality; not as a religous group within some\nseparate national identity.  The reasons are mostly historical and\ncultural.  Religion plays a smaller role, as a part of culture in general,\nbecause the area is simply not known for religious fanaticism.  Political\nfanaticism, yes; religious fanaticism, no.  Group security and survival\ndominate people's thinking; not fine points of theology.  In fact,\nBosnia-Herzegovina is as well known for religious tolerance in peacetime\nas it is known for terrible carnage in wartime.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nWhy not design the solar arrays to be detachable.  if the shuttle is going\nto retunr the HST,  what bother are some arrays.  just fit them with a quick release.\n\none  space walk,  or use the second canadarm to remove the arrays.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"A couple of points :-\n\n\nI have an Adaptec 1542B and am very happy with it.\n\n\nNot so! I have both IDE and an Adaptec1542B in the same box and can use both\ndisks at the same time, eg. IDE to SCSI disk copy.\n\n\nWell, one statement and one correction!\n\nGuy","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Hi sci.med folks...\n\nI would like to know anything you folks can tell me regarding Lithium.\n\nI have a 10 year old son that lives with my ex-wife.  She has been having\ndifficulty with his behavior and has had him on Ritalin, Tofranil, and now\nwants to try Lithuim at the local doctors suggestion.  I would like to \nknow whatever is important that I should know.  I worry about this sort of\nthing and would like pros\/cons regarding Lithium therapy.\n\nI have a booklet from the \"Lithium Information Center\" based at the \nUniversity of Wisconsin, but feel that it is pro-lithium and would be\ninterested in comments from the \"not necessarily PRO\" side of the fence.\n\nI am a concerned father and just wish to be well informed...\n\nThanks for any information you can provide.\n\nPlease email me directly...\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nIt is said that CELP vocoders can run on the highest speed 486s with\nsome room to spare -- they turn 64kbit (8 bit samples, 8k samples\/sec)\ninto 4800 baud. However, DSP is hairy, and I have yet to see actual\nproof of this in the form of an implementation. I have heard fairly\nreliable rumors to the effect that a famous internetworking guru has a\nCELP implementation that runs on Sparcstation 1+'s with some room to\nspare, but I have not succeeded thus far in getting my hands on a copy\n-- the guru in question has a reputation for not releasing code\nwithout having beaten on it for a very very long time first. \n\nDSP experts are heavily encouraged to try their own hand at this\nproblem.\n\n--\nPerry Metzger\t\tpmetzger@shearson.com","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I have a 90 Eagle Talon and I wanted a pair of GTS \nHeadlight covers.  Actually, they are turning signal\ncovers since the Talons that year had pop-up lights.\nI went to a auto shop and bought the tail-light \nblackouts for $45, but they did not have the turning\nsignal covers in stock.  I asked how much it would be\nand he told me it would cost me another $40.  I thought\nthis was a bit high for two small pieces of plastic.\nCan anyone find me a cheaper pair or even a used one?\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Hi,\nI need your help with a problem I have with a 1989 Mitsubishi\nGalant GS transmission.  The car has a 5 speed manual tranmission.\nSince the car was bought new, while shifting from 2nd to 3rd,  unless \nI do it SLOWLY and carefully, it makes a \"popping\" or \"hitting\" sound.\nThe dealer and Mitsubishi customer service (reached by an 800 #) say \nthis is NORMAL for the car.  IS IT?\nAnd about a year ago, at 35Kmiles, the stick shift handle got STUCK\nwhile attempting to put it in reverse:\n   1- The shifter would not budge.  The clutch had no effect.\n   2- The front tires would not budge, even when the clutch is\n      fully depressed.\n   3- If the clutch is released the engine would die.\n   4- Assuming that some gear was engaged while the shifter was\n      stuck, I could not make the car move.  It acted as if\n      it were in Neutral(except for dying when clutch is released.)\n   5- I finally was able to release the shifter by having \n      someone rock the car back and forth (less than an inch),\n      while I depressed the clutch and jiggled the shifter.\n   6- The shifter acted normally after that.\n\nWhen this happened, I took it to the dealer, they checked the \nclutch, it was o.k. They checked the transmission, it was o.k.\n\nI had the exact problem a couple of months ago, and again last\nweek.  The dealer says there is nothing they can do because \nMitsubishi (the 800 #) says they have never heard of the\nproblem, and the dealer could not reproduce the problem while\nthey had the car.  \nIn all three occurances, the car was parked head first in a garage,\nand since the front wheels were stuck, the car could not be towed\nto the dealer before releasing the shifter (hence temporarily\nsolving the problem).  And the dealer, and Mitsubishi, refused to\nsend someone to check the car while it was stuck. \nI KNOW there is smething wrong with the transmission (shifting \nfrom 2nd to 3rd), and getting stuck at random, but I can't get \nthe dealer to fix it. I need your help with the mechanical problems, \nand with how to handle Mitsubishi.  \nAll hints and suggestions are greatly appreciated, and sorry to\nbore you with the long post.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nI don't know about Canada, but I have heard from people\ndoing translation work in Papua New Quinea, that they\nlike them and have had good response on service.\n\nAnother is seriously considering buying one.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I am writing a X-based dosemu which requires XKeyReleasedEvent. \nI found the keycode of XKeyReleasedEvent is wrong.   If I run the program on\na Linux host(XFree1.2) with  DISPLAY set to the local Linux and to\nthe Sun host (X11R5), the two keycodes from the two Xservers are different. \nOf course, the keycode of XKeyPressedEvent is O.K.\n\nCan anybody verify this ?     Did I do anything wrong ? \n\t\nThanks.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"A while back (i.e., several months) someone posted a method for allowing \na user to choose (via XMenu and something else??) a window manager \ninteractively at X startup time. Could the original poster (or anyone \nelse) please Email a copy of the method to me, as I have lost the \noriginal posting? Thanks.\n\n______________________________________________________________________________\nHenry Stilmack                               )  \nComputing Systems Manager                    ) Perform random kindnesses \nUK\/Netherlands\/Canada Joint Astronomy Centre )   and senseless acts of beauty\n660 N. A'ohoku Place, Hilo, HI 96720         )   \nhps@jach.Hawaii.Edu       808-969-6530       )    ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I'm trying to find a program that will stop the Macs from spitting out\ntheir Boot Disk. I was told one exists but I can't find it.\n\nAnyone know where I can find it?\n\nThanks\n\nRobert Harvey\nDuty Programmer\nInformation Technology\nVictoria University","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Recently, I have been getting a CMOS Checksum error when I first turn on my\ncomputer.  It doesn't happen everytime I turn it on, nor can I predict when it\nis going to happen.  I have an AMI BIOS and all of the setting are lost, for\nexample the drive types and the password options.  However, the date and time\nremain correct.  If anyone knows what can be causing this, please let me know.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Forwarded from Neal Ausman, Galileo Mission Director\n\n                                 GALILEO\n                     MISSION DIRECTOR STATUS REPORT\n                               POST-LAUNCH\n                           April 23 - 29, 1993\n\nSPACECRAFT\n\n1.  On April 22 and 23, delta Differenced One-way Range (DOR) passes were\nperformed over DSS-14\/63 (Goldstone\/Madrid 70 meter antennas) and DSS-14\/43\n(Goldstone\/Canberra 70 meter antennas), respectively.  Initial results \nindicate the delta DOR pass on April 22 was unsuccessful due to ground\nstation hardware problems but the one on April 23 was successfully performed.\n\n2.  On April 23, a cruise science Memory Readout (MRO) was performed for the\nMagnetometer (MAG) instrument.  Analysis indicates the data was received\nproperly.\n\n3.  On April 23, the spare power relay contacts were commanded closed via the\nspacecraft stored sequence.  These relays were commanded closed by the CDS\n(Command Data Subsystem) prior to launch and were again commanded closed to\npreclude the possibility at Jupiter of the PPS relays\/wiring being a\nsource of internal electrostatic charge (IESD).\n\n4.  On April 26, cruise science Memory Readouts (MRO) were performed for the\nExtreme Ultraviolet Spectrometer (EUV), Dust Detector (DDS), and Magnetometer\n(MAG) instruments.  Preliminary analysis indicates the data was received\nproperly.\n\n5.  During the period from April 26 to April 27, a navigation cycle was\nperformed.  This navigation cycle provided near-continuous acquisition of\ntwo-way doppler and ranging data during three consecutive passes of the\nspacecraft over DSS-63, DSS-14, and DSS-43.\n\n6.  On April 26, real-time commands were sent to test slew the Radio Relay\nAntenna (RRA) in preparation for the mini-sequence slew test on April 28.\nThe RRA was slewed from approximately 3.5 degrees from stow to approximately\n20.3 degrees.  Preliminary analysis indicated the antenna slewed to about 18\ndegrees which was well within the predicted range.  The RRA was commanded back\nto approximately 15.2 degrees from stow.  Preliminary analysis indicated the\nantenna reached about 15.8 degrees also well within the predicted range.  The\nRRA motor temperature was at 1 degree C at the start of the activity and had\nincreased to 1.6 degrees C at its completion.\n\n     After verifying proper RRA slewing, the RRA slew test mini-sequence was\nuplinked to the spacecraft for execution on April 28.  Upon successful uplink,\na Delayed Action Command (DAC) was sent which will reposition the stator on\nMay 4 to its initial pre-test position.  Also, a DAC was sent to turn the\nTwo-Way Noncoherent (TWNC) on April 28 prior to the start of the RRA slew test\nmini-sequence.\n\n7.  On April 27, a NO-OP command was sent to reset the command loss timer to\n264 hours, its planned value during this mission phase.\n\n8.  On April 28, the RRA slew test executed nominally.  The spacecraft under\nstored sequence control performed six RRA slews starting at about 16 degrees\nfrom stow and going to 53 degrees, back to 25 degrees, then to 51 degrees,\nback to 22 degrees, then to 48 degrees and then back to 21 degrees.  All of\nthe slews were well within the predicted range.  The RRA motor temperature was\nat 2.3 degrees C at the start of the activity and had increased to 4.4\ndegrees C at its completion.  After completion of the RRA slews, real-time\ncommands were sent to reconfigure back to the pre-test configuration.\n\n9.  The AC\/DC bus imbalance measurements have not exhibited significant change\n(greater than 25 DN) throughout this period.  The AC measurement reads 17 DN\n(3.9 volts).  The DC measurement reads 134 DN (15.7 volts).  These\nmeasurements are consistent with the model developed by the AC\/DC special\nanomaly team.\n\n10. The Spacecraft status as of April 29, 1993, is as follows:\n\n       a)  System Power Margin -  75 watts\n       b)  Spin Configuration - Dual-Spin\n       c)  Spin Rate\/Sensor - 3.15rpm\/Star Scanner\n       d)  Spacecraft Attitude is approximately 23 degrees\n           off-sun (lagging) and 4 degrees off-earth (leading)\n       e)  Downlink telemetry rate\/antenna- 40bps(coded)\/LGA-1\n       f)  General Thermal Control - all temperatures within\n           acceptable range\n       g)  RPM Tank Pressures - all within acceptable range\n       h)  Orbiter Science- Instruments powered on are the PWS,\n           EUV, UVS, EPD, MAG, HIC, and DDS\n       i)  Probe\/RRH - powered off, temperatures within\n           acceptable range\n       j)  CMD Loss Timer Setting - 264 hours\n           Time To Initiation - 203 hours\n\n\nGDS (Ground Data Systems):\n\n1.  The first Galileo-GDS test of the MGDS V18.0 Command System (CMD) took\nplace April 27, 1993 with DSS-61 (Madrid 34 meter antenna).  The test went\nwell and demonstrated that the new command system interfaced with the new DSN\n(Deep Space Network) Group 5 Command Processor Assembly (CPA).  The test was\nsuccessful and the next test for V18.0 CMD is scheduled for May 1, 1993 with\nDSS-15 (Goldstone 34 meter antenna).\n\n2.  The April System Engineers Monthly Report(SEMR)\/Ground System Development\nOffice (GSDO) MMR was conducted Thursday, April 29.   A review of current\nProject and Institutional (DSN and MOSO) system status was conducted.  On-going\ncruise development plus the GSDO Phase 1 and 2 delivery schedules, past months\naccomplishments  and potential problem areas were discussed.  No significant\nschedule changes or significant problems were reported.\n\n\nTRAJECTORY\n\n     As of noon Thursday, April 29, 1993, the Galileo Spacecraft trajectory\nstatus was as follows:\n\n\tDistance from Earth         187,745,300 km (1.26 AU)\n\tDistance from Sun           296,335,800 km (1.98 AU)\n\tHeliocentric Speed          89,100 km per hour\n\tDistance from Jupiter       522,015,800 km\n\tRound Trip Light Time       20 minutes, 58 seconds\n\nSPECIAL TOPIC","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"[stuff deleted]\nI have a similiar question relating to anti-alaising that my friend has asked\nto have posted to the more knowledgable in this group. I'm sorry if this is\nan FAQ.\n\n   \"What anti-alaising methods do Persistance Of Vision & Polyray use?\"\n\nThank you in advance. You can either email me or reply (or flame me if it is\nan FAQ :-) )","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"} Last night, Boston Red Sox win its 11 games of 14 games by beating Seattle\n} 5-2.  Roger Clemson pitch not so dominate.  He walked at least 6 man in\n} first 6 inns.  But Valetin and Greenwell hit homeruns and Red Sox prevail.\n\nClemens struggled with his control, but was also the \"beneficiary\"\nof some pretty shoddy umpiring. but to be fair, most of the walks were\nearly in the game, and he adjusted. he was also helped by (dare i say\nit?) some pretty good defense by the Sox, including Rivera playing\nat second, not his normal position.\n\nactually, Clemens is pretty lucky that he got the win, considering the Sox\nalmost gave up the lead in the bottom of the 7th on Mo's error catching\na throw-over.\n\n} I think that game is must win for Red Sox in Seattle, considering Darwin will\n} faced Seattle ace Randy Johnson tonight.\n\nmust win? in April?\nthey've already won 4 more games so far than anyone thought they would at this \npoint of the season... i hope people aren't getting too caught up\nin this streak; it's been fun, but teams have 11-3 streaks all the time,\nand it is only when they are at the start of the season that they get\nso much attention.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Is there any third party video ram adapter for vewing 24 bit color on LCII?\nI heard that Apple is selling it aroung 160$.\nPlease e-mail me.\nThanks.\nYoung\nyouyj@mace.cc.purdue.edu\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I have a mac LCII 4\/80 purchased last august.\nJust the cpu and mouse... no monitor or keyboard.\n$800 OBO\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Does any one know of a decent quality library of routines for\nperforming 3D graphics modelling on the PC?\n\nIdeally the routines would be embeded in our application program.\n\nRequirements (wish list):\n- flat surface modelling (simple phong shading optional)\n- ability to plot hidden-line drawings\n- Texture mapping -- both procedural and bit map\n- modeling light sources (local, distant, and spot lights)\n- Ray-tracing\n- Radiosity (optional)\n\nAny comments would be appreciated.\n\nJohn Chinnick -- jchinnic@mach1.wlu.ca\nphone : (519) 888-9666","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"ERGINEL) asked:\n\n[EE] No, no flaming here. Just a simple question.\n\n...with a simple answer!\n\n[EE] As far as I know most of the Armenians belong to the Gregorian Orthodox\n[EE] faith and such was the case in nineteenth century Ottoman Empire. It is\n[EE] also known that some Armenian communities were converted into Catholicism\n[EE] and Protestantism by the Western European missionaries in this period. \n\nThe vast majority of Armenians in eastern Anatolia were Gregorian or Armenian\nApostolic. There was, however, a higher percentage of non-Gregorian Armenians \nin Cilicia, closer to the Mediterranean, in Adana, Marash, Aintab, etc.  \n\n[EE] Another known fact is that almost half of the Armenians living in Anatolia\n[EE] did not speak any Armenian, but used Turkish in their everyday lives.\n\nThis is not true. While it was forbidden for Armenians to speak Armenian in\ncertain areas of Cilician Armenia, most all Armenians spoke Armenian. In fact,\nTurks who interacted with Armenians also spoke Armenian! For sure, most all\nArmenians, especially men, also knew Turkish in order to function in larger \nsociety.\n\n[EE] My question is, given so many separations in the Armenian community, what\n[EE] was the common denominator of the Armenian people that allowed Armenian\n[EE] nationalism to emerge in the nineteenth century? As I stated, religion\n[EE] was not uniform (unlike the Greeks) and many Armenians couldn't even speak\n[EE] Armenian. I would like to know what factors brought the Armenians in the\n[EE] Ottoman Empire together and led to the formation of an Armenian \n[EE] consciousness.\n\nThe Armenians in Turkey were persecuted because they were Armenian, regardless\nof the specific branch of Christianity they professed. The resultant Armenian\nnationalism was in direct reaction to this persecution. Even at the later \nstages of WWI, and after the genocide, many Armenians who were converted to \nIslam were also exterminated because they continued as Armenian Moslems. This \npractice continued well into the 1920s by Ataturk in parallel with the policy \nof clearing out pockets of steadfast Islamic fundamentalism. Many of these\nconverted Armenians, ironically, in order to stay alive, were staunch Moslems. \n\n[EE] Any information will be appreciated.\n\nYou answered your own question! The common thread throughout your inquiry\nwas the word Armenian!\n\n[EE] Regards,\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Yamanari,\n\n---Hey isn't it funny how betas have bugs in them....\nHey...do me a favor and don't put up stupid posts.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nThey don't.  It's a closed access road, you pay to get in (if you don't\nhave a resident sticker), and they simply don't open the gates if\nyou're on a bike.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I have a little question:\n\nI need to convert RGB-coded (Red-Green-Blue) colors into HVS-coded\n(Hue-Value-Saturnation) colors. Does anyone know which formulas to\nuse?\n\nThanks!","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Tom Clancy omitted these key steps to try to prevent groups of people from\nbuilding a nuclear bomb.  However, he asserts that you can find these key\nsteps in any university library.  The main point of _Five Minutes To Midnight_\nis that it is impossible to prevent the proliferation of nuclear weapons,\nsince it has become easy to acquire the knowledge to build one, and fissible\nmaterials are nearly impossible to control.  Read this article, or better\nyet, run to your library yourself and dig up some stuff on constructing a\nnuclear weapon.\n\nDoug Holland\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I've done a bit of looking, and havn't been able to \ncome up with a mailing list or newsgroup for users\nof Adobe Photoshop.  Assuming I've just not missed\nit, I'll go ahead and see if there is enough interest\nto start a mailing list (and\/or alt. newsgroup).\n\nDrop me a note if  you might be interested in subscribing.\n\nTHANKS!\n\n--Bob Wier (NOT of the Grateful Dead :-)","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nThe \"artist renderings\" that I've seen of the HST reboost still have\nthe arrays fully extended, with a cradle holding HST at a ~30 degree\nangle to the Shuttle.  I think the rendering was conceived before the\narray replacemnet was approved, so I'm not sure if the current reboost\nwill occur with the arrays deployed or not.  However, it doesn't \nappear that an array retraction was necessary for reboost.\n\nThanks for the input on GRO's S\/A design constraints.  That would \nexplain the similar design on UARS.\n\n\nHeck, the MMS project used to design _missions_ with servicing in mind.\nThe XTE spacecraft was originally designed as an on-orbit replacement\nfor the instrument module on EUVE.  That way, you get two instruments\nfor the price of one spacecraft bus (the Explorer Platform).  A \nsecond on-orbit replacement was also considered, with the FUSE telescope.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nThere should be no problem with this - just remember to get the number of\nwait states correct!\n\n\nGuy","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":": I have seen various references to 'triple des' recently. Could anyone\n: tell me what it is ? From context, I would guess that it means\n: encrypting each block 3 times, with a different key each time, but\n: I'd like to be sure.\n\n: Replies by email preferred - our news is unreliable.\n\nCould people replying to the above question post their responses here\nas well, as I'm sure others (including myself) would like to hear them.\n\nThanks.\n\nJon","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nThe CLIPPER initiative is an announcement by Clinton that all the \n\"secure\" voice phones will use the same crypto chip, as a de-facto\ngovernment standard.  Problem is, the government is admitting that\nthey hold the keys to break the code easily, and the Justice department\nwill be using the keys to listen in on \"illegal activities.\"  Many\npeople are really scared about such an initiative because it is\na major step towards outlawing real crypto protection on things\nlike email if you read the press release.  The project was developed\nby NSA and given to NIST.  It uses two keys S1 and S2 that the\ngovernment claims are needed to break the code.  They claim that\nthese keys will be handed to two different companies, and when they\nget a warrant to do a wiretap (the chip is nicknamed the wiretap chip),\nthey have to get the keys from both companies.  People have poked holes\nthrough and through the press release official version and shown how\nit is nowhere near as nice as it sounds, and I have given the simplified\nversion.  People over on sci.crypt are really scared about this\nproposal it seems.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nOh yeah, all the time.  On a nice spring\/summer day, I roll down the window\nand drive around looking for bikes.  When a bike motors by in the opposite\ndirection, I stick my arm out and hi5'em.  My arm feels like a million \nbucks when I'm doing this a 60km\/h.  I do the same thing with cyclists.\nThe only problem with hi5ing a cyclist is their always in the right hand lane.\nI hafta roll down the other window and hi5 them on the back.  Oh well, I \nthink they appreciate the thought. \n\nRegards, Ted.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nThanks, Jody. I can't say I've ever seen it summed up so succinctly before.   \nI might only add two things.... stupid road design (or poor, at least) and\nwe deal with it for the fun and *brotherhood* we share with others who take \ntheir lives in their hads to feel the wind in their hair....IMHO.\n\nBinger","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"As I recall from my bout with kidney stones, there isn't any\nmedication that can do anything about them except relieve the pain.\n\nEither they pass, or they have to be broken up with sound, or they have\nto be extracted surgically.\n\nWhen I was in, the X-ray tech happened to mention that she'd had kidney\nstones and children, and the childbirth hurt less.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nLet's be careful here.  If players' performance was completely random\nin (Clutch-No Clutch), then you would still expect some players to be\ngood in the clutch every year and some to be not-so-good every year.\nWith two years worth of data, you'd have 1\/4 of the players good each\nyear, 1\/4 bad each year, and 1\/2 would have one good and one bad year.\nWe have 96 players for 5 years ('84-'88).  Just flipping a coin, you'd\nexpect 3 players to be good all 5 years and 3 to be bad every year.\nThis is what we actually get--\n\nNo. of good years    0    1    2    3    4    5\nClutch performers    4   10   37   24   18    3\nCoin flip (random)   3   15   30   30   15    3\n\nEssentially the distribution of clutch performers by number of years\nof good performance is the same as what you would get if the process\nleading to deviations from non-clutch performance was completely random.\nIf there was anything to clutch hitting (at least in this definition)\nthat had any predictive capability, you expect to see the number of\nplayers at the ends to be much larger than that predicted by flipping\na coin.  Further, if you limit yourself to players who were a lot above\nor below average in clutch situations (say, 1 standard deviation from \nthe mean) more than one year, the random explanation still looks good.\nIn the four years ('84-'87) that I looked at the data from Elias, there\nwere 79 (29) players with a minimum of 25 (50) at bats in clutch \nsituations that were 1 sigma from the mean two different years.  Of\nthose 79 (29) players, 38 (14) of them changed sign between the two\nyears.  In other words, they were great clutch hitters one year and\nreally horrible the other year.  If it was just a random process, \nyou'd expect those numbers to be 39.5 (14.5).  \n\nEverything that's been measured about clutch hitting over a period\nof years that could be used to predict any ability with any \nproposed definition has looked like a random process (with the \ncaveat that there may be something related to platoon advantage\nthat could be dragged out of the data--e.g., John Lowenstein \nprobably never had a \"clutch\" AB against a left-handed pitcher,\nbut he might well have had some in blowouts, so that there would\nbe a bias since his clutch ABs would be more geared to his \nplatoon advantage).  This is not a subject that has been glanced\nat casually.  A lot of people have put a lot of effort into \nstudying it and every one of them, with the exception of the\nElias study, has been unable to find anything that would allow\nyou to predict how someone will do in clutch situations better\nthan flipping a coin.  (Self-serving plug follows:  some of the\nflaws in the Elias study are discussed in my paper in the forth-\ncoming SABR book, _The Perfect Game_, by Taylor Publishing.  The\nauthors are supposed to get a slice of the advance, so go bug\nyour local bookstores now, and maybe I can get enough to take my\nwife to dinner once.:-)\n\nHarold","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Where can I find it ?","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nHmmm.  I gave two examples which matched your objective criteria, and your\nresponse was some subjective claptrap about them being 'lame'.  You never\ndid counter the fact that those examples fit your objective criteria.\n\nOne wonders who's playing semantic games, here.\n\n\n-- \nRick Schaut\nUUCP:...{uunet | uw-beaver}!microsoft!richs","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"WATCH OUT PITSBURGH HERE COME THE ISLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!\n\n\n\nThey said we wouldn't make the playoffs and we came in third\nThey said the Caps would beat us and they're not going to\nThey say that Pitsburgh has a 1:1 ratio of winning the cup but We'll prove them\nwrong.\n\n\nL E T S   G O    I S L A N D E R S!!!!!!!  Bring it back home\n\n\n\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\tQuite a few people couldn't have cared less about what\nhappened to the Jews of Europe.  If they had cared, they would have\ndone something.\n\n\n\tMaybe its because many of us, who have been on usenet for\nseveral years remember tripe like this being posted:\n\n-------------\n\n\n\tThis was posted fairly recently.  There has been much more\nracist stuff in the past.  Why are we expected to listen to it and\nremain \"calm?\"  I don't think that listening to racist or anti-semetic\nslurs is an incitement to calm debate.\n\n\tPerhaps you don't mean to be coming off as highly offensive.\nHowever, the way you have posted seems to be typical of those who have\nan irrational dislike for Israel and Jews.  Perhaps if you took a\nclose look at what you've posted thought a bit about the combatative\ntone you've used, you would see why people are reacting the way they\nare. \n\nAdam Shostack \t\t\t\t       adam@das.harvard.edu","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"This is the AP story from Fri morning.\n\nAs the walls came tumbling down and tear gas filled the air, cult leader\nDavid Koresh sprang into action. He left his third-floor bedroom and began\nlooking around the house, making sure women and children were secure and \nchecking that everyone had their gas masks on properly. Within hours, the    \ncompound became an inferno. Nine Branch Davidians excaped.\n   This is their story, gleaned from lawyers who spoke with six of them\nwho are jailed on charges that include conspiracy and murder. That day the \nsix said a portable radio offered the only contact with the outside world    \nsince Koresh's right-hand man, Steve Schneider, ripped out the compounds's \nphone line after FBI agents called before dawn Monday saying this was the\ncults last chance: Come out or prepare to get forced out.\n    They kept their word. By dawn, tanks were battering the Mount Carmel\ncompound, punching for hours to creat holes for tear gas to enter. The BD\nmeanwhile proceeded with their daily routines. Strapped into gas masks, the\nwomen did laundry. Others read Bibles in their rooms. The 17 children, all\nunder 10, remained by their mothers' sides. Still, it was hard to ignore what    \nwas happening around them. Each time a tank rammed the poorly-constructed building\nit shook violently. Cult members dodges falling gypsum wallboard and doors.\nHundreds of gas canisters hurled in from the armored vehicles were filling\nthe air with noxious fumes. The flying canisters were more frightening than\nthe tanks. At least one man was hit in the face. The gas began filling the air,\ndriven by heavy gusts of wind coming through windows and the holes the tanks\nmade. Scattered throughout the house, the cult members made no efforts to\ngather. Then the FBI sent in its biggest weapon -- a massive armored vehicle\nheaded for a chamber, lined with cinder blocks, where authorities hoped to \nfind Koresh and Schneider and fire tear gas directly at them.\n  Here the cult members' story diverges from the government's version. The\nFBI says cult members set fires in three places. But each of the six cult\nmembers, in separate discussions with lawyers, consistently gave versions\nat odds with the FBI's account. They say the tank flattened a barrel of \npropane, spilling its contents. And as the tank thundered through the house,\nit tipped over lit lanterns, spitting flames that ignited the propane and\nother flammables. The home of used lumber, plywood, and wallboard tacked \ntogether with tar paper was vulnerable. The building erupted. Nine BD's\nescaped jumping through windows and dashing through other openings. Others\ndied groping in the blackness.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"James Nicholl sez;\n\nJeff responds;\n\n\nI wouldn't worry too much about it, Jeff.  If you work for JPL, then your\njob IS imaging things :-)\n\n(I know, it was a just a typo, but I couldn't resist.  At least, I hope it\nwas a typo, or my stupid joke is stupider than I intended :-)\n\n-Tommy Mac\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTom McWilliams 517-355-2178 wk   \\\\ As the radius of vision increases,\n18084tm@ibm.cl.msu.edu 336-9591 hm \\\\ the circumference of mystery grows.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nWe were having a problem with instability in the universal gravitational\nconstant that day:  the closer I got to those exposed fangs (still dripping,\nno doubt, with the viscera of the last foolhardy experimenter cum canine\npsychology) the bigger and heavier the dog appeared to become.  Also, \nrecall that the distribution of the ~150lb is one five pound jaw+teeth \noperated by two 70lb muscles driven by a .005 ounce brain possessing an\ninstinctual heuristic composed of equal parts of bloodlust and ravening hunger.\nThe other ~5 lb is, of course, dog poop, but that varies all over the place \nas the dog deposits it regularly on the painstakingly manicured and tended \nlawns of the dog's owner's neighbors (whilst continuously replenishing its\ninexhaustible supply, no doubt by consuming the likes of folks like me).\n\n\nMy very thought at the time, but as I looked down at these once formidable \ninstruments of mayhem, I realized they had become weak and atrophied by too\nmany sedentary hours tapping away at my ergonomically-correct CRT keyboard.\nThere was only one option left: I reached down to the toolbox near my\ncar and grasped my Craftsman 150 ft-lb torque wrench, surely the bludgeon\nof dire necessity if ever there was one.  To my amazement and\nconfusion, the setter started shaking and rolling on the grass, then leapt\nto its feet and vanished down the street, still quivering and occasionally \nlooking back at me.  \n\n\"Seven at One Blow!\" I exclaimed, flexing my new-found biceps and brandishing\nmy Terrible Weapon of Invincibility as I stalked the now-secure environs\nof my domicile.  It was only later that I found out what the dog apparently\nknew all along: the wrench was defective, would no longer measure torque\naccurately, and Sears wouldn't fix it or replace it.  What I had interpreted\nas fear and subservience were in fact unmitigated hilarity and contempt.\n\n\nExactly: nobody can look quite as silly as we can.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I watched the game Germany-Czechs in WC today...and i was astonished about\nthe behaviour of the German audience!\nThe German team got a few penalties in the last period and the crowd went\ngrazy! They threw coins, extra pucks and other trash into the rink...is\nthat stupid or what?? I guess the Canadian referee (one of the\nIsostar-bros ;) gave the German team a penalty for that, but it didn't help\nmuch.\nI guess the Germans just are proud over their Nazi-Kill-'em-All-Everyone-\nBut-Us-Germans-Sucks attitude...they just seem to have that kind of attitude\nin every possible sport (remember the European champs in Stockholm in soccer)\nIt really pisses me off!\nI do not mean that every single German has this attitude that sucks, but \nmost of them seem to do...","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nAll right! Let's hope they get off their rear ends and do something\nbecause the UN clearly is content to sit on its.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"-- \nDouglas C. Meier\t\t|  You can't play Electro-magnetic Golf\nNorthwestern University, ACNS \t|  according to the rules of Centrifugal\nThis University is too Commie-\t|  Bumblepuppy. -Huxley, Brave New World\nLib Pinko to have these views.\t|  dmeier@casbah.acns.nwu.edu\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\nrecently I noticed there is a directory named \"DiskImage\" in my disk.  I didn't\nnotice it before and I wonder if while installing an application an image of \nthe disk was created, or if Win3.1 automatically created a backup of its files.\nI couldn't find any documentation on the diskimage utility; having an image of\nthe disk is taking *a lot* of disk space.  Does anybody know if this is just \nsomething the people who installed Win3.1 did or it is a backup mechanism?\n\nThanks,\n\nAnibal\n-- \n---------------------------------------------------------------------------\nAnibal Mayorga              |  21 Wenark Dr #7        | W: (302) 831-8704 \nmayorga@cis.udel.edu        |  Newark, DE 19713       | H: (302) 453-0309","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"The White House\n\nOffice of the Press Secretary\n-----------------------------------------------------------------\n\nFor Immediate Release                             April 19, 1993\n\n\n\n                  STATEMENT OF PRESIDENT CLINTON\n\n\nI am deeply saddened by the loss of life in Waco today.  My \nthoughts and prayers are with the families of David Koresh's \nvictims.\n\nThe law enforcement agencies involved in the Waco siege \nrecommended the course of action pursued today.  The Attorney \nGeneral informed me of their analysis and judgment and \nrecommended that we proceed with today's action given the risks \nof maintaining the previous policy indefinitely.  I told the \nAttorney General to do what she thought was right, and I stand by \nthat decision. ","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nYour post is based on the premise that the laws as they stand do not\ndiscriminate anybody, so your argument falls over immediately.  Are you\nreally that dumb as to use emotive language to prove an argument?\nPlease feel free to answer, that is, if you have anything intelligent\nto say on the matter.\n\n\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nDo I ever!!!!!!  After 2 years of having health problems that had been\ncleared up w\/allery shots, and not knowing why, I went and was re-tested.\nI actually did better than when I had been tested 2 years ago....\nThen putting 2 + 2 together, I realized that it all started back up\nwhen the laser printer came into the office.  I kept track of the usage, and\non hi use days, I was worse.  I got better over the weekends....\n\nThe laser printer is gone, I'm 100% better!!!..... Whether it is the toner\ndust or chemicals, I dont know (I am highly allergic to dust...), but\nit definitely was the laser printer....\n\n\n\n\t\t     brenda peters\n\t\t     carderock div, nswc, david taylor model basin\n\t\t     bethesda, md  20084\n\n\t\t     e-mail :   cape@dtvms.dt.navy.mil\n\t\t\t\t or","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nThen Einstein should have had lunch with me at the Tien Fu\non Castro Street yesterday, when they handed me a fortune\ncookie that said \"He who has imagination but not knowledge\nhas wings, but no feet\".","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nQuite honestly, this one is ridiculous.  Consider the following\nscenario: Runner on third. As the pitcher starts to throw home, the\nrunner takes off for home and the batter squares around to bunt for\nthe suicide squeeze. The pitcher, seeing this, does not throw home,\nbut stops in mid action and puts the runner in a run down.  It is the\nbalk rule that prevents this from happening.  \n\nBelieve it or not, this actually happened to me once in an OBA\n(Ontario Baseball association) game in Milton, Ontario.  I was the\nbatter and to my amazement, the umpire missed it.  In the 12 years\nthat I played ball, this was worst piece of umpiring I ever saw.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n: To those of you who have the BMW heated handgrips:\n\n: \tWhat are they like during the summer? Yes, you\n: \twiseguy, I mean while they are off!\n\n: \tAre they comfortable? Do they transmit a lot of\n: \tvibration? How do they compare to the stock grips?\n: \tTo foam grips? \n\n: Do they really make a difference during the winter?\n\nI just got a K75 and had the heated grips installed.  As far as I can\ntell the grips look and feel the same as the standard grips. \nThey are *not* soft.  Last weekend I did a 500 mile round-trip and\ngot to a point where it was in the 30s and raining.  Those heated\ngrips were *great*.  I've only had the bike a month and the heated\ngrips are already one of my favorite features on the bike.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nNot this again.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"The tv coverage of the playoffs is fucking ridicules.  Overtime time games\n    that are not shown?  What the hell kind of shit is this?  If that would\n    have happened to the Flyers(if they were in the damn playoffs to begin\n    with) while I was watching, I would have gone throught the roof!\n\n    However, everybody is getting pissed off at ESPN, but they are not the\n    ones to blame.  They have prior contracts that they just can't simply break\n    whenever they want to.  The N.H.L. is to blame.  When they signed the\n    deal with ESPN, they had to know of this.  They had to know shit like this\n    would happen since they wouldn't have complete priority.  The N.H.L.\n    should be feeling the heat that is being thrown at ESPN.  How can the\n    N.H.L. do this to its fans? How dare they.  We are the ones that make the\n    damn league exist and they can't even televise complete playoff games for us to\n    watch!  They more I write about this, the more pissed off I get.  We must\n    let the N.H.L. know that  we expect a little better than this.  If anybody\n    out there knows how to go about doing this, let me and everybody else know.\n\n    Well I had to get that off my chest and while I'm at it....\n\n    Mario is the Michael Jordan of hockey.  All that fucker has to do is fall\n    on the ice and the closet guy to him gets at least 2.  Last night in the\n    3rd game between NJ and Pitt, he was being pushed while skating across the\n    front of the goal while trying to get a shot off.  The guy on him was\n    doing a good job, so he got off a weak shot, but then he decided to fall\n    to the ice. Then the fucking ref(Van Helloamend?) called the guy for\n    holding.  They replayed the play, and my roomate(who is clueless about\n    hockey) wanted to know what the NJ guy did to get a call, because it was so fucking obvious the NJ player\n    had both hands on his stick, and no, he did not trip him.  It is simple,\n    Mario gets touched, he falls to the ice, automatic 2.  But the thing that\n    really pissed me off is, Pitt scored the 3rd or 4th goal, I don't remember,\n    on the resulting PP and\n    eventually won 4-3.  His diving\/calls makes a HUGE difference in the\n    outcome of a game.\n\n    They gotta stop the damn holding and interference that is so fucking\n    obvious. That is not hockey.  It allows inferior players to bring down the\nlevel of the better players, and allows inferior teams to beat better ones.\nThis has pissed me off for many years now, and it has improved somewhat.\nHowever, during the playoffs and 3rd periods, the damn refs must misplace\ntheir balls, because they sure don't make any calls that show that they got\nany.\n\n    All agreeing or disagreeing replies are welcomed.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nNo, which is why I want an investigation.  \n \n\nWho ever said he was? What is obvious is that he was defending himself, and his\nfollowers, from the government.  Whether you think he was right or wrong in\nthis is another question.  If he was right, then he had the moral right to kill\nthose kgBATF agents.\n--Ray Cote","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nI have one of these monitors. It appears to function OK, but is unhookable\nto anything standard (CGA,EGA,VGA) - it will plug in but gives fuzzy\ndiagonal noise. \nI also have a graphics board that is apparently a 3270 graphic board\n(double card with 2 8-bit bus connectors, and a 9-pin female connector\nwith a picture of monitor). I tried plugging these two into a standard AT\nto no avail. How can one connect these to (the monitor seems to\nbe of relatively high quality, so I'm curious)? Any special drivers and\/or\nsetup needed - I can't locate any jumpers on the card.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nThey changed the lights and slope of the hood, along with the new\ngrille.  Otherwise, it is unchanged.\n\nInterestingly, their lack of wood and lack of a grille was a BIG\ndesign statement... they tried to defy conventional wisdom and carve\ntheir own niche ... unfortunately, sales were only half those of the\nLEXUS and hence, they now join the pack.  I still wonder if much of\nthe problem wasn't the slow start from the initial AD campaign.\n\nPersonally, I like the Q without the Grille.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n  True.  Today's Boston Globe interviewed a former Unification Church\n  leader who is now a consultant on cults.  He said the FBI's approach\n  was totally wrong.  He said they should have tried to break down the \n  BD's loyalty to Koresh through psychological means.   Koresh's whole\n  theology was based on an approaching confrontation with the forces \n  of evil in the world and a seige mentality based on this.  The Feds\n  played into his hands **PERFECTLY**.   By surrounding the compound\n  with tanks and playing loud rock music and glaring lights at them \n  they strongly reinforced Koresh's message that the outside world was\n  evil and threatening.    He said instead they should have set up \n  a picnic atmosphere, and acted inviting and friendly.  If they\n  broadcast anything over PA systems it should have been loving \n  relatives reflecting on pleasant events from the cult members'\n  childhoods.   The idea is to make the outside world and surrender\n  seem like a pleasant, desirable alternative.   Interesting comments.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I am thinking of buying a used Audi 90 Auto.\n\nThese cars look good and Audi do have a good rep. for these cars in Europe\n(where I'm from).\n\nI was just wondering if there anything about these cars that I should know.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n...which would make the number 15%, right Clayton?","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"[...]\n\n\nTim Wallach can be explained with the rabbitball.  Deion can be explained\nas \"learning how to play the game\".  I'm not betting that Deion will be able\nto play as well as last year, but I think the odds of Deion playing as well\nor better than he did last year are better than the odds of Otis Nixon\ndoing the same thing.  When you factor in defense, Otis was more valuable last\nyear.  But I'm not convinced he'll be more valuable this year, and especially\nnext year.\n-- \nDale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Howdy All!\n\nI have recently converted to Microsoft Visual C++.\n\nI no longer want my Borland C++ 3.1 w\/Application Frameworks product.\n\nThis version is about 6 months old. I have all of the manuals, disks (5.25\"),\netc. It is licensed to me but I will transfer the license to the purchaser\nunder the accepted terms of the Borland license agreement.\n\nI also have a copy of the books:\n\n\"Developing Windows Applications with Borland C++ 3\", James McCord, Sams (39.95)\n\"Using Borland C++ 3 2nd ed\", Mark & Lee Atkinson\", Que  (29.95)\n\nI'd like to do is sell it all to the highest bidder under the conditions listed\nbelow.\n\nI'll ship C.O.D. to anywhere in the U.S. via the shipper of your choice\n(provided they are local to me), and I will pay the COD charges (you just pay\nfor the shipping).\n\nThe list price for the product is about $750. I have seen it advertised for as\nlow as $500. \n\nI will accept the best offer over $375 (plus shipping as described above) which\nis 1\/2 the list price, plus, I'm tossing in the 2 books listed above (which are\na $70 value).\n\nI will hold the bidding open through the weekend and close it sometime in the\nevening of 4\/26\/93.\n\nPlease reply via eMail. Only serious offers please apply. No, I will not\nconsider anything for trade, nor any offers less then $375 as I consider it a\nfair price.\n\n\n\nRegards,\nSteve.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nI have indeed heard of Pythagoras, but I don't know that he was ever\ndisparaged as a \"bean eater\".  In the American Southwest and West\n(e.g., Texas, California, Colorado), the term \"bean eater\" is\nsometimes used as a slur against those of Hispanic heritage (generally\nMexicans, in those parts) -- much like how the Irish in the Northeast\nare perceived (by some) as voracious beer guzzlers.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"In September 1990, our medical reserve unit was sent to the KETZIOT\nprison camp to take care of Arab prisoner who were housed in 5\nsections of 1500 prisoners each, with each section subdivided in\n5 units housing 300 prisoners. The prisoners would \"communicate\"\nwith other distant sections (sometimes 50-100 yards away) by\ntaking stones, tying written notes to the stones, and throwing\nthem with incredible precision to other sections. I should have\nbeen a recruiter for the Red Sox :-) There were at least three\nprisoners who could have been outstanding pitchers.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nThose chimes indicate a hardware failure of some type during System startup.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\tI am looking for a very high speed \nD\/A converter (at least 8bits and 150MHz) for\na research application. A paper in  the January\nissue of IEEE Solid-State Circuits mentions a \nGaAs, 1GHz, 8bit DAC - anyone know where I can find\nsuch a thing? Even a somewhat slower Si DAC would\ndo.\n\tNeedless to say, I have looked in all the\nconventional places (Vitesse, Motorola, National,\netc. etc.). Any pointers would be appreciated.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nWhoa.  What you are effectively doing is implying that if a player plays\nreally well, he 'stores up' mistakes that can be used at a later time.  Ths\nis not so.  Roy is the 'villain', as you so succinctly put it, because he\nallowed a very cheap goal.  If you think Roy outplayed Hextall, perhaps you\nshould get a tape of the game and watch the first 7-8 minutes of the third\nperiod.  NHL goaltenders _make_ some great saves.  If they did not, they\nwould not be in the NHL in the first place.  I do not expect any particular\ngoalie to be able to make the great saves all of the time, even though they\nare occasionally required.  However, when it comes to a routine shot like\nSakic's, especially at such a crucial time in a game, I don't think there \nare any legitimate excuses. \n\n\nI am not arguing that Hextall was brilliant.  I am arguing is that a\nrelatively weak wrist shot from the outside of the circle shold not result \nin a goal. \n\n\nIn a one-goal game with less than a minute to go there is no such thing as\n'just the 1 goal'.  I have not defended Dionne for taking the penalty\neither...in fact I think it was a boneheaded move.  But it led to _one_ goal\nonly, and Montreal had a _two_ goal lead.  My main concern is the second \ngoal.\n\n\nWhat you say about the skaters is absolutely true.  But realize that the \ngame was effectively *won*.  You could watch any hockey game (in fact, you\ncould watch any sporting event period) and spend hours discussing the 'what\nif's' w.r.t. missed opportunities.  They are not important when the final\nresult is decided.  If I get the time soon, I'll watch the game again and\nemail you a list of lucky Montreal bounces and a list of Quebec offensive\nscrewups.  Montreal was _leading_ with a minute to go.  The goalie\nis the last line of defence, and I will grant that extra attention is\nfocussed on him, sometimes without justification.  But Roy gave up a *lousy*\ngoal, and a team cannot afford such a goal.\n\n\n\nWHO CARES?  Of what value is it to justify one lousy play with a totally\nunrelated lousy play?  I could do a Hextall critique if you'd like.  But if\nyou're going to assess his performance, keep in mind that he made the key\nsaves at the key times.\n\n\nFor the record, I did not say that Roy was not one of the top goaltenders in\nthe league.  In fact, I agree that he is.\n\n                            \nI assume you are referring to me.  However, I have pointed out that I think\nthe loss can be blamed on Roy.  I have not said he sucks, nor do I think I've\nmade any other 'derogatory comments'.  If you regard objective\n(and informed, FYI) observations as derogatory, I really can't help you. \n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n     You forgot the part about encasing it in a small shaped charge so that\nif anyone tries to tamper with it, it explodes and kills you.\n\n     Oh, and the shaped charge can be set off by remote control...but only\nif you get out of line. Properly patriotic citizens have nothing to fear.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
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{"text":"\n\n\nHow DARE you make such an accusation!  There are MANY sober, non-drinkers in \nthis state!  If We wern't so busy unloading the beer truck for the week end, \nI might just come up that and have a talk wit you! B->\n\n ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====----","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Hey All-\n\nWe have an old (1990) external HD attached to the Plus in our lab.  It had  \ngiven us flawless service until last week.  The problem: Someone in our lab  \nhas an old 512 that was upgraded a couple years ago to a Plus with an  \naftermarket SIMM\/SCSI setup (Digigraphics \"SIMMer\").  the DB25 SCSI plug runs  \nthrough the back of the machine and attaches to the board with a 26-pin  \nrectangular connector.  Well, this guy had removed the back from the machine,  \nto put more memory in, and had disconnected the the SCSI plug.  Since the  \n26-pin connector is symmetrical (not keyed) he may have reinstalled it upside  \ndown, essentially reversing the pins on the DB25.  He came in and asked if he  \ncould try out our HD on his SCSI port (it had never been used).  Naive fools  \nthat we are, we said o.k..  His computer failed to recognize the drive.  Now,  \nnone of the computers in our lab will recognize it.  We tried Disk Doctor, and  \nit doesn't recognize anything on the SCSI chain.  Could installing the SCSI  \nupside down have wrecked the HD's driver board?  The drive seems to spin up  \nall right and unpark itself upon powerup.  The events are too coincidental to  \nattribute the problem to stiction.\n\nAny help greatly appreciated-","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I'd like to thank everyone and anyone who sent me information\nto help me with my project.  \n\n\n\n_______  ___   ___       ___      ___     ___  ___    ___   \n--| |-   |  |  |  |    \/ \/\\  \\    | |\\ \\  |  |  \\  \\\/   \/\n  | |    |   --   |   \/  --   \\   | | \\ \\ |  |   \\     \/  \n  | |    |   __   |  \/  -----  \\  | |  \\ \\|  |   \/  \/\\ \\  \n  |_|    |__|  |__| \/__\/     \\__\\ |_|   \\____|  \/__\/  \\_\\\n\n\n\nI'll send my report to all who requested a copy!\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Yes, I could look it up but I prefer to post this question \nto the net...\n\nI read somewhere in a long forgotten article that the handsignals \nused by major league umps were originally used to help a \ndeaf ball player by the name of \"Dummy\". Urban myth? True? \nI gots ta know.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":": In article <1r6p8oINN8hi@clem.handheld.com>, jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De\n: >  \n: > I have not made up my mind about Waco, but there sure seems to be a group of  \n: > devoted government following fanatics willing to believe whatever that  \n: > government wants to tell them, without any shred of doubt, nor thought of thier\n: > own.  They sure get shrill whenever their belief structure is being shaken.\n: > \n: > Kinda reminds you of the BDs, doesn't it?\n: > \n: > Jim\n\n: Go to hell. I'm no \"government [-] following fanatic.\" Your sweeping\n: generalizations evince your own ignorance. What were they supposed to do?\n: Just let him be? \n\nYes.  Given the history of the BD's and the fact that they were just \npeacefully minding their own business, I think this would have been\nthe correct course of action in the very beginning.  Everything that\nfollowed was a direct result of the major media fuck-up that the BATF\nperpetrated just over 51 days ago.\n\n:Fuck him. Fuck the ATF, too. They should've done it right\n: the first time.\n\n: joe.kusmierczak@mail.trincoll.edu\n\nYep, no doubt about it.  They should have just bombed those kooks\nright from the git-go.  Yeah, sure!  So much for any resemblence\nto an America that abides by the Constitution.  So much for feeling\nsafe in your home.  So much for any of the rights enumerated in the\nBill of Rights being upheld.  Why bother?  They just get in the way\nof an effective government.  That is, a government of the elite, by\nthe elite, for the elite.  \n\nJoe, attitudes like yours frighten me.  You have very few facts about\nwhat actually happened, and what information you do have came from a \nsingle source, the FBI\/BATF.  Yet you are more than happy to pronounce\nthe BD's guilty-as-charged based on this one-sided testimony.  Scary!\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nHow about Acts 11: 15-18, 22-23\nor, I John 4:1-8\nwhich says to *try* the spirits to see if they be of God.  \n\n\nHow do you know?  When have you tried to learn anything about me?\n-- \n\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nAre you aware you can make a grenade with gunpower and metal water pipes?\nMaybe we should outlaw hardware stores and ammo reloading.\n\nAre you aware that you can make a firebomb with gasoline? etc.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nNot by any standard of history I've seen. Care to back this up, sans the\nlies apologists are so fond of?\n\n\nNot really. Most of the prophesies aren't even prophesies. They're prayers\nand comments taken from the Torah quite out of context. Seems Xians started\nlying right from the beginning.\n\n\nMy we're an arrogant ass, aren't we?\n\n\nYou're wrong to think we haven't. The trust was in something that doesn't\nexist.\n\n\nI'm still willing to die for what I believe and don't believe. So were the\nloonies in Waco. So what? \n\nBesides, the point's not to die for what one believes in. The point's to\nmake that other sorry son-of-a-bitch to die for what *he* believes in!   :)\n\nDoesn't anyone else here get tired of these cretins' tirades?\n\nPeter the Damed, and damned proud of it!","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nAt the time I didn't really want the Sox to sign either.  I was more\nthan a little worried about Viola's elbow.\n\nBut you *surely* remember my shout of relief when, after a week of\nrumors that Morris was coming to the Red Sox, they ended up with Viola\ninstead.\n\nNow I'm even happier.  Viola seems to have rebounded nicely.\n\n\nHow long did Viola sign for.  Three years?  I generally agree with\ntheir policy of avoiding long-term contracts for pitchers.  But I\nthink they enforce it rather too strictly.  These days the premier\npitchers all sign three or four year deals.  Which leaves the Jays\nwith Morris and Stewart.  If the Jays want to compete for top free\nagent pitchers, they will have to accept greater risks.\n\nAny idea what the option year deal is for Morris?  Are there any\nautomatic activation clauses?  What is the buyout amount?f","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I got a ET4000\/W32 card which is made by Cardex yesterday\nand ran a winmark test on it. The card is a VL-BUS card which\ncan display 16.7 million colours in 640x480 mode with 1MB DRAM.\n\nIt comes with ET4000\/W32 window drivers and a normal Et4000 drivers.\nThe ET4000\/W32 drivers handles, 640x480, 800x600, 1024x786 in 256 colours.\nAlso, in 640x480 and 800x600, it supports hicolor, 32K and 64K colours.\n\nHere is my winmark result running on a 16MB 486DX33 EISA\/VL-BUS system using\nHint chipsets.\n\nWinmark 3.11 from ZD lab.\n\nUsing ET4000\/W32 drivers\n640x480 256       10.63 megapixel\/sec.\n        32k        7.34 \n        64k        7.30\n800x600 256       10.07\n        32k        6.38\n        64k        6.35\n1kx786  256        8.17\n\nUsing ET4000 drivers.\n640x480 16M        1.78\n800x600  16colours 4.01     \n1kx786   16        4.22\n\nFrom the result, the ET4000\/W32 drivers are specialized to use the\nhardware feature of the Et4000\/W32 chip whereas the ET4000 drivers are\njust normal driver for ET4000 based graphics card.\n\nThe price of this graphics card that I got is $185 from a local dealer.\nIt may be less from mail order. It has OS\/2 2.0 drivers comes with it\nwhich supports 256 colors on all resolution.\n\nFrom these results, it has double the performance of a Et4000AX based card\nin 256 colours mode.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I am servicing a machine (HP-286) and whenever the thing starts up I get\n4 beeps on powerup.  Does anyone know what error message that signifies?  I \ndon't seem to have any problem with the machine but the lady who is using it\nis \"very concerned\" about it.  \n\nDon't you just love HP computers???\n\nPreferr responses by E-mail but I read the net so you can post it here.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"pprun@august.it.uswc.uswe\n\nUnites States Senate\nWashington, D.C. 20510\n\nThe House of Representatives\nWashington, D.C. 20515\n\nThe White House\nWashington, D.C. 20500\n\n-Seth\n\n__________________________________________________________________________\n[unlike cats] dogs NEVER scratch you when you wash them. They just\nbecome very sad and try to figure out what they did wrong. -Dave Barry","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Hello All!\n\n    It is my understanding that all True-Type fonts in Windows are loaded in\nprior to starting Windows - this makes getting into Windows quite slow if you\nhave hundreds of them as I do.  First off, am I correct in this thinking -\nsecondly, if that is the case - can you get Windows to ignore them on boot and\nmaybe make something like a PIF file to load them only when you enter the\napplications that need fonts?  Any ideas?\n\n\nChris","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"In <1993Apr21.211038.12363@newshub.ists.ca> dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nEjon Matejevic who was a full professor at Clarkson University, last\nI heard,  developed the process for sticking Teflon to metals.\n\nI don't think it was a NASA project, cuz i heard he held the patent\non it, and had made quite a bundle off it.\n\nAnyone from Clarkson know the Exact story.  I never wanted to ask\nhim myself.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Recently an e-mail to me mentioned:\n\n(Technically, the messengers aren't even human so\nit *can't* be a case of \"homosexuality\" -- even of rape.) [...]\n\nThe Jude reference to Sodom is also meaningful only in the context of\nthe Sodomites' \"lust\" for the \"other flesh\" of angels.  Again,\napplication to homosexual behavior in general, or to the position of\ngay Christians is largeely specious.\n***\nAre angels \"flesh\"? No. I feel that this is saying that it was because\nof their lust after other men, who are flesh( or of this world).\n\nwhat are other opinons on this? I haven't heard much about this verse  \nat all.\n\nIn Christ's Love,\nBryan","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"On a few computers which we have here at Sheridan College there are\nfiles which we would like to make read only.  I have used the Dos attrib command\nbut some people, who carry around the attrib program in their pockets,\nhave still been able to erase some of the more important files.  Are\nthere any software packages which would make an entire drive read-only?\nAn example, partition the drive into two partitions and have the first\ndrive contain the important files which can be only read and the second\ndrive you could both read and write.  \n  Any and all enquiries or help would be appreciated.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nIn this case, it was unimportant as to who set the fire.  The Davidians\nwould have burned no matter what, ESPECIALLY if the BATF\/FBI set the\nfire as this would make the beseiged martyrs to Vernon Howell and\ntherefore rocket to heaven.  A few comments from the remaining\nDavidians scattered throughout the country seemed to confirm this\ntheory (One cult member said that she wished that she had been there,\nand that now she would have to wait for Vernon to Return for them.  She\nactually seemed upset that she did not burn with them).\n\nWhile I think that Vernon started the fire (his followers anyway), \nit is incidental to their reaction.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n  Listen guys you can talk about this the whole playoffs.  I'm here in a\nsmall town in southern Illinois at school.  I'm from Canada and I know\nthat cbc and tsn have games on every night,  all you have to do is go to\na bar with a satellite.  I have watched both games between Mon Que and\ntoronto and detroit,  not to mention Van vs Winn and with cbc.  They\nshow all goals from every game that evening so I haven't missed a goal\nall playoffs.  Well have to go boy leafs are on Ciao.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I purchased an LCIII recently and had heard a bit about a re-work of the\nlogic board.  I opened mine up and found the same re-work, with a small\nchip glued to the board and a couple of green wires running from it to two \nother chips.  I'd like to know more about it.  Could anyone with any or all of\nthe following information please post it?  Thanks a bunch.\n\n1.\tWhat does the re-work accomplish (i.e., what does it fix)?\n2.\tWhat are the technical details of the re-work?  (I'm looking for\n\tthings such as the purpose of the chips with the new wires connected,\n\tand the pin-outs for those chips.)\n3.\tIs a board with the re-work any different functionally from one without?\n4.\tCould the re-worked boards be incompatible with future releases of\n\tthe operating system?\n\n\tand, finally,\n\n5.\tShould I even be concerned about any of this?\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Regarding the feasability of retrieving the HST for repair and\nrelaunching it:\n\n(Caution: speculation mode engaged)\nThere is another consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet.\nI expect that retrieving HST would involve 'damaging' it considerably in\norder to return it to its cradle in the cargo bay.  Most of the deployed\nitems (antennas and, especially, the solar arays) probably are not\nretractable into their fully stowed position, even by hand.  They would\nhave to be removed by the astronauts.  (The only advantage that this\nmight yield is that we could put new panels on that don't 'ring' due\nto thermal cycle stresses...)\n\nI also expect that, as has been discussed, the landing loads on the\nHST optics structure is a big issue (but that the reentry loads are\nmuch less so.)  Can the moveable optical components even be re-caged\n(I assume that they were caged for launch)?\n\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nMichael Corvin \t      \t\t\t\tzwork@starfighter.den.mmc.com\nGN&C R&D\t\t\t\t\tMartin Marietta Astronautics\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n===============    My views, not Martin Marietta's   ========================","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I'm working on an audio mixer project, but I'm having trouble finding\nparts.  I want to use op-amps for the gain control stages.  The ones\nI have found that are good for audio are LM739 and LM833, but I cannot\nfind either of these in the electronic parts places I've looked.\n\nAre there any good substitute op-amps and\/or are there any parts\nsuppliers in the LA area that carry this kind of thing (10KOhm dual\naudio taper slider pots would be nice, too).\n\nAny info would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nIs there an \"official DoD products-of-choice\" list?  If so would the \nappropriate party please post it.  \n\n-Erc.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I have a 486 DX 33 motherboard in my pc that i'd like to speed up. \nI'd rather not replace the whole motherboard, instead i'd like to know\nif i can use a DX\/2 66Mhz cpu. The BIOS is late model AMI, circa 1991,\nand the system crystal is approx 66.3Mhz. \n\nMy question is, can i just replace the original 33MHz cpu with the new\nDX\/2 cpu? If its possible, will there be a need for extra cooling\ndevices such as heatsinks and \/ or muffin fans??","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nIt has nothing to do with how long they have been voting, as much as HOW\nthey have been voting.  Pick up a list of the Labor parties proposals\nfor MK prior to the election and pay attention to the order.  Correlate this\nwith the number of Arab party members eligible to vote in party elections.\nFurther correlate this with the voting results from Arab areas.\n\nLo and behold, you will discover that Israeli Arab Labor party members\ndid not band together unanimously or en large for a select group of\nArab candidates.  This problem is further exacerbated by the rifts\nbetween Israeli Arabs.  Some claim membership to right wing parties\nwhile others vote for parties that do not pass the minimum cutoff.\n\nI worked within the labor party during the late 70's elections (not this\nlast one) as a volunteer and was privy to the voting results that\nwere returned from the local delegates elected.  At the time, the system\nwas structured differently but it did not cease to amaze me that there\nwas no massive effort to lobby for Arab reps. by their own delegates.\n\n\nQuite simply, if all eligible Arab voters became members of the Labor\nparty and voted, they would be able to command more than %15 of\nthe delegates.  This is a power base that can not be ignored!\nEspecially when they are not ranked high in the party (once again\ndue to lack of political power).  I have seen how the labor party\nworks from the inside and my experience has been that, as in most\npolitical situations, the MKs act out of their own self-interest.\n\nAnd to answer your question, I \"broke\" with labor because I felt\nthat they were heeding too much to the right-wing and ultra-orthodox\ncoalition members.\n\n\nFair enough.  My take on the matter, and I will admit to the possibility\nthat this might be seen differently is that this was a dummy argument.\nIf he was sitting on the committee, then someone else obviously would not\nbe.  In drumming up support for his seat, MK [?] would not be averse to\nusing this argument, or it could be used on his behalf.\n\nAs to the proof presented in this article, I would find it very\ninteresting to know who proposed the compromise along with a followup\ndescribing how the matter stands\/was resolved.\n\nLet me just take this opportunity to say that I deplore such actions\nand groundless justifications.\n\n\nFor the record, Roni Milo, is a brash MK (self described) from the Likud\n(note NOT LABOR).  Quite frankly, I don't think anything he would say could\nsurprise me.  Annoy and aggravate, yes, surprise - no.\n\n\nYes I do and thank you for providing it.  I would be most interested\nin knowing how things turned out.  Anyone......?\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Yes, but what if my monitor only has 3 BNC's on it, and is expecting\nto get a composite sync signal on the \"green\"?  There ought to be a\nlittle black box that takes the VGA signalling (which has horiz, vert,\nand composite sync on different pins, plus the R, G, and B pairs) and\nmerges the green and composite sync together in the output.  It's all\n1V analog, as far as I know.  I can build this with op-amps but I don't\nthink I can get the shielding done well enough to handle the frequencies\ninvolved without lots of shadows and junk on the screen.\n\nDoes anyone know of a VGA->RGB(composite sync on green) converter?","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nYeah!\n\nI found beelzebub inside a worm...yeah, that's it!\n\n(actually it was vodka - Gordon's if I remember correctly...\nI didn't even buy it (of course, that's probably the reason\nI drank _so_ much of it that night...never again.)\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Are you guys talking about the Soviet \"shuttle\"?  It's not \"Soyuz\",\nit's called \"Buran\" which means \"snow storm.\"\n\n(At least that's what they call it on Russian TV).\n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\tWarren, I agree with your premise... but... The Babe won on\ntwo teams. That's right, he was part of the Red Sox Dynasty of the\n1910s. And everyone knows that the Yankee Dynsaty wouldn't have\nhappened without thier famous bullpen catcher whose name escapes me at\nthe moment.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"<It seems silly, but while I've located things like tgif that can  edit\n<gif  files, and various tools to convert to\/from gif format, I haven't\n<been able to locate a program that just opens a window and displays  a\n<gif file in it.  I've looked thru various faq files, also to no avail.\n<Is there one lurking about in some  archive?   Nothing  sophisticated;\n<just \"show the pretty picture\"?\n<\n<Alternatively, if I could locate the specs for gif, I don't suppose it\n<would be too hard to write it myself, but I have no idea where to even\n<start looking for the spec.  (Well, actually, I do have an idea - this\n<newsgroup.  ;-)\n\nGet, xv, version 3.0.  It reads\/displays\/manipulates many different formats.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nRight on. Ticket prices are set to maximize revenue. Period. For an excellent\ndiscussion on how this works, see Gerald Scully's book of a couple of years\nback, titled (I think) \"The Business Of Baseball\".\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n           We will stretch no farm animal beyond its natural length\n\n  paula@koufax.cv.hp.com   Paul Andresen  Hewlett-Packard  (503)-750-3511","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nDoes anyone have a reference to the claim that the Arabs in the\nMoghrabi district were \"squatters\"?  I haven't seen this in the books\nI have read.  I haven't seen the opposite, either...","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Gerald Belton)  writes\n\n\n\nHere in our city, dialing either 940-7222 (newer exchanges) or 940-2222222 [\nsic] will get a synthesized message. Works great for having people call you \nback at unlabeled pay phones.\n\nRegards,\nBill\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nSo is there any problems putting a drive formatted vertically on\nits side horizontally?\n\nI got a drive a few years ago with the rubber feet on the side,\netc. and have used it like that since (obviously designed for that\norientation). However, it doesn't fit under any of the clever\nplaces I can think of to place it, so I would really like to lay it\nflat and put it under a low shelf.\n\nThis is probably not a \"newer\" drive, and it is only 70 meg, but\nwhen I bought it, it was a large drive for an average user\n(comparable to buying a 200 meg drive today). So is my old, 70 meg\ndrive as fragile (or not) as a new 200 meg drive?\n\nJust curious.....\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I have heard that the version 7.2 printer driver is out for the apple laserwriter ls.  Has ayone heard of how or where to get this driver.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nHere's the one that I used:\n\n# @(#)$Id: MH,v 1.7 90\/04\/06 09:44:31 sources Exp $\n# SCO 3.2.4v2\nbin\t\/usr\/local\/bin\nbboards\ton\netc\t\/usr\/local\/lib\/mh\nmail\t\/usr\/spool\/mail\nmailgroup\tmail\nldoptlibs\t-lsocket -lcrypt_i\nmandir\t\/usr\/man\ncc\tgcc\nccoptions\t-traditional\nmanuals\tnone\nchown\t\/bin\/chown\nmts\tsendmail\/smtp\npop\ton\ndebug\toff\nsharedlib\toff\nsignal\tvoid\nsprintf int\noptions\tATTVIBUG BIND DPOP DUMB RENAME SOCKETS SYS5 SYS5DIR VSPRINTF FCNTL MHE MHRC MIME MORE='\"\/usr\/bin\/more\"' POPSERVICE='\"pop3\"' RPATHS FOLDPROT='\"700\"' MSGPROT='\"600\"' SBACKUP='\"\\\\043\"' SHADOW\ncurses\t-lcurses -ltermcap\nranlib\toff\n\nYou may want to use a different locking style; my mailbox is mounted over NFS\nso I use fcntl-style locking.\n\nI also applied the following tweak to sbr\/makedir.c:\n\n*** \/src\/public\/mh-6.8\/sbr\/makedir.c    Tue Dec 15 10:55:22 1992\n--- sbr\/makedir.c       Tue Apr 13 14:02:04 1993\n***************\n*** 24,30 ****\n  #include <sys\/types.h>\n  #include <sys\/stat.h>\n  #endif        \/* SYS5DIR *\/\n! #if defined(SVR4) || defined(ncr)\n  #include <unistd.h>\n  #endif\n\n--- 24,31 ----\n  #include <sys\/types.h>\n  #include <sys\/stat.h>\n  #endif        \/* SYS5DIR *\/\n! #if defined(SVR4) || defined(ncr) || defined(SYS5)\n! #define MAXPATHLEN 1024\n  #include <unistd.h>\n  #endif\n\nThat took care of everything but the man pages, which I installed by hand.\n\nGood luck,\n-- Steve","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"so.\ndone,\ncareer\n\n\nVelarde hasn't been to Columbus, if I recall, for about three\nyears.  Granted, he hasn't been a full time player but\nwhen he does play I've always thought he had a good bat.\nHe might be demoralized about not playing full time, but\nhe hasn't been shuttled around.  I think he's been in New York\never since he had 34 hits in 100 AB back in 1989, or 90, I\nbelieve.  \nI don't think he is gold glove calibre, but he doesn't boot\nit around either.  I think if Velarde is given a chance,\nhe could become extremely productive.  I don't have any stats\nto back this up, and I don't know if his Defense would\ncost any games, but I think he could help - and he has\nthis year.  He has 3 HR already.  Same goes for\nJim Leyrtiz.  He has a big mouth, but he does get\nthe job done when he concentrates.  I think the situation\nwith Leyritz is that he believes he is a potential\nsuper-star, and he gets pissed about not playing.  I\nthink he might have realized something when the Marlins\nor Rockies didn't select him.\nThe Yanks need to worry about the Bullpen right now.\nKamieniecki and Wickman\/Militello in the bullpen?\nOuch.  I'm praying that the BP will return to last year's\nform....\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nBill,\nNo flame intended but you're way, way off base. In simple terms Kirilian\nphotography registers the electromagnetical fields around objects, in simple,\nit takes pictures of your aura.\n\n-- \nGreg ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Can people please stop the 'I think\/know the BATF\/FBI are completely\nresponsible but they'll cover it up so that the investigation will\nshow that Koresch is responsible' bs. In an investigation of this\nsize with the feds, state, and civilians involved in the\ninvestigation it would be practially impossible to cover up.\nAnd with Republicans like Arlen Spector calling for investigations,\nthis isn't going to be handled with kid gloves.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nWell, as many a bored bike tourer can tell you, the way to steer\nsans hans is to push your body off to the side you want to lean.\nSay you want to turn left.  You push your body off to the left.\nTo do this, you have to push against something, and the only\nthing to push against is the ground (through the bike).  Well,\nthe apple guy (Wozniak? or was that Churchill?) says that the \nground will push you right back.  So, you pushed yourself off to \nthe left by pushing on the ground to the right, and the ground \npushed back toward the left.  Well, that push is on both wheels.  \nThe rear wheel doesn't care (unless you have serious bearing \nproblems) (except of course on the Spagthorpe Dragonfly, which\nhad the revolutionary countersteering-contra-shaft-drive rear end), \nbut the front wheel has trail.  If the ground pushes the front wheel \ntoward the left at the contact patch, the trail will cause the \nwheel to turn to the right.  Hey, there we are.  No-hands counter-\nsteering.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nI have got an Adaptec SCSI card, that comes with its own version of FDISK.\nThe problem with DOS is that it will only see two hard disks, any more need to be\ndone by device drivers.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nCould someone please post Roger Grywalski's response?  Or point me to where\nI could find it?\n\nThanks a lot,\n\n\nS. Raj Chaudhury\t\t\t|\nDept. of Physics    \t\t\t|  raj@phys.ksu.edu\nKansas State University\t\t\t|\nManhattan, KS 66506\t\t\t|","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nOh, you mean something like moving the press back to a single\nlocation, 2 miles away from the \"compound\"?  The press was allowing\ninto foxholes in Vietnam, but it's \"too dangerous\" to allow them near\nthe Branch Davidians?...  There's something skewed about the logic here. \n\n--\nCharles Scripter   *   cescript@phy.mtu.edu\nDept of Physics, Michigan Tech, Houghton, MI 49931","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"brings up the issue of how the escrow agent will be paid, and the fact\nthat the government had financial leverage if they don't cooperate.\nIt's an important issue, especially if one of the escrow agents\ndecides they'd rather stop offering the service. \nI assume that if the escrow agent isn't the government,\nthen the contract for providing escrow service would include some\ntermination clause like returning the keys.\n\n\nBut who's the user paying the fees here, and what's the service?  \nIf the user is the government, then the funding's not separate from the government.\n\nIf the user is the buyer, what's the service?  \nKeeping the key for me?  No thanks - I don't need, and won't buy their service!\nNot telling everybody my key?  Sounds like blackmail!\n\nIf the user is the manufacturer, does the user have a choice about buying?\nThe alternative is to just generate the key and not escrow it, which is fine -\nI'd certainly pay more for this kind of key than an escrowed key!\n\nFace it, the escrow provider is providing a service the users don't want.\nThe only people who want it are the government, not the users.\nWhat you're really talking about is either the government paying for\nthe service, up front or per-year, either from general taxes,\nor from a special direct tax on wiretap chips, or on an indirect tax\n(forcing the manufacturer to pay the fee to the escrow agent.)\n\nI hope the escrow people have no way of finding out your name from\nyour serial number, especially if the escrow is a government agency.\n\nHere in New Jersey, we have lots of people willing to provide that\nsort of services for user fees.  There are people willing to keep your\nstore from burning down for a small monthly fee, though sometimes people\nrefuse to pay and discover that the service really was effective.\nIf you go to a baseball game at Yankee Stadium, there are people who\nwill watch your car in the parking lot for a small user fee.\nSomething could scratch the paint, after all.\nAnd what a shame if your Clipper key got out!","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"*******************************************************\n                   1969 karmann ghia\n*******************************************************\n\nThis car is in excellent running condition:\n               *********\n  *49,000 mi on new engine\n  *new tires (Aug 92)\n  *new clutch (91)\n  *new carb (91)\n  *original radio (am\/fm)\n  *upholstery in great shape\n  *burgundy exterior\/ black interior\n\nThis car has been well-maintained with regular tune-ups.\nUnfortunately, the car's previous owner had a minor\nfront-end collision.  The right front nose is dented\nand patched up with bondo.  I have the hard-to-find part\nneeded to repair this damage.  Besides that damage, the car\nis in excellent condition. $1600\/bo","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n    Do you swim nude in a public swimming pool?  :)  I doubt sperm can\npenetrate swimsuit material, assuming they aren't immediately dispersed\nby water currents.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"1993-1994 NHL Hockey Pool\nBy\nDenis Papp and Chris Stoochnoff\n \nRules:\n \n- Pick 17 players (3 LW, 3 C, 3 RW, 3 LD, 3 RD, 2 Goalies)\n  You may pick ANY 17 players from any team.\n \n- Points for players are as follows:\n        - 1 point per goal\n        - 1 point per assist\n        - 1 point per 10 PIM\n \n- Points for goalies are as follows:\n        - 2 points per win\n        - 1 point per tie\n        - 1 point per assist\n        - 1 point per 5 PIM\n        - 2 points per shutout\n        - 100 points per goal\n \nEntries:\n \n-Entries can be sent (by mail or ascii text file) to Chris Stoochnoff or Denis\nPapp on Hard Wired BBS (434-7996). \n-Due date for entries is the first day of regular season play. After that,\nno more entries will be accepted (unless it is just slightly late. If that is\nthe case, there will be a small penalty applied to the team).\n-internet users can send email to dpapp@muskwa.ucs.ualberta.ca\n \nPrizes:\n \nPrizes have not yet been considered. They could range from nothing to free\ntime on Hard Wired BBS or even something else (if you have any suggestions...\nplease feel free to put your two cents worth in).\n One idea is to get whoever is willing to to submit an equal amount of\nmoney, and that will go to be the prize money.  The prize money will\ngo to the top team who has submitted to the prize pool.  A list\nof all people who submit money will be posted, as well as those who\ndidnt - if it is done this way. \nCost:\n \nThe cost... ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!! There is absolutely no fee for this pool.\n \nNote:\n \n-If you have any questions, please feel free to send them to Denis Papp or\nmyself (Chris Stoochnoff). The players positions (ie. Brett Hull is Right\nWing) will be decided by the year book I will be using. So, if you do not\nknow a certain players position, or you are not completely sure what position\nhe plays, then ask me and I'll tell you.\n \n-And for a great time, call the Hard Wired BBS at (403)-434-7996 (this will be\nthe location where the pool standings will be displayed).\n \nInternet Users:","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nBefore I even think about getting this, is it going to be posted to \ncomp.sources.x at any time in the near future?  \n\nGreg.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Is it possible to get an xterm scrollbar to come out on the right\nside instead of the left?\n\nRon Shenk\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I'm planning on writing several classes to build a raytracing\/radiosity library\non top of, and i'm wondering if anythink like this is freely available on the\nnet before i go to it. What i need is classes like rays, vectors, colors,\nshaders, surfaces, media, primitives, worlds (containing primitives) and\nviews\/images.\n\nPlease post or mail.\n-- \nTorgeir Veimo\n\nStudying at the University of Bergen\n\n\"...I'm gona wave my freak flag high!\" (Jimi Hendrix)","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Could someone please tell me what the dip switches on the\nback of the AST Hot Shot 286 accellerator card do?  I\nrecently acquired the card and did not get any docs.\n\nany information will be appreciated.\n-Rob\n-- \nRobert M. Bultman                              |\nSpeed Scientific School                        |\nUniversity of Louisville                       |\nInternet: rmbult01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu |","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"OK I sold all but these, I had some offers and I accepted an offer\nof 25.00 for the pair from bdale@gag.com ( Bdale Garbee ).  I don't\nknow what happened to him but he won't reply now that I accepted\nit so I'll offer these again.\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nNo, and in fact, that was Ferreira's original strategy, which the troika\nproceeded to simply continue to implement. There wasn't exactly a radical\nshift in policy when he was ousted (something people seem to forget). The\nonly real question is whether they did it as well as Ferreira could have if\nhe stayed, or whether the basic strategy was flawed (since Ferreira has been\nquoated as saying he's going to do something different in Anaheim with the\nDucks, my guess is that it wasn't as good in practice as it was on paper,\nand he's tweaking it a bit second time around). One also has to wonder\nwhether the strategy would have been a lot better if we hadn't had those\ninjuries, and whether we're complaining about the weather because an\nearthquake collapsed the root cellar.\n\n\nLet's also NOT FORGET that Ferreira came *THIS* close to trading Kelly\nKisio, which, if the rumors I've heard are true, was over the strong\nobjections of other aspects of Shark management and probably had a lot to do\nwith both his ouster and the three-headed, consensus oriented GM.\n\nImagine, for a second, where the Sharks would be today if that fax machine\nhadn't jammed.\n\n\nEspecially an unhappy player that isn't playing as well because of it. Not\nthat I'd accuse Mullen of tanking, but his motivation simply wasn't there,\nand that kind of thing can affect the team.\n\n\n\n\nExactly. At the time they let Skriko go, we hadn't yet had the major injury\nbugs that killed us later. I'd much rather have Skriko around than someone\nlike Dean Kolstad, but at that point, that wasn't the choice. And since the\nchoice was more one of Skriko vs. someone like John Carter, I think the\nright choice was made for that time period.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nRIght now the HST sevicing mission is listed as 11 days.  before\nit was listed as 9 days.  they just kicked up the number of spacewalks\nto 5,  after simulations indicated  that it was not do-able in 4.  \n\nAfter all the space walking,  they are going to  re-boost the HST's\norbit.  I think right now  it's sitting  at 180 miles up,\nthey would like  220.  I don't know the exact orbit numbers.\nI know when HST was first flown, it was placed in the Highest\npossible Shuttle orbit. \n\nNow the shuttle can cary a thing called the EDO pallet, or extended\nduration orbiter pallet.  It's mostly  LOX\/LH for the fuel cells\nand RCS gear,  plus more O2  and canisters for the life support\nre-breathers.  maybe more nitrogen too.\n\nTHe limit on space-walking is a function of suit supplies (MASS)\nand Orbiter Duration.   \n\nIn order to perform the re-boost of the HST, the OMS engines\nwill be fired for a long period.  Now the shuttle is a heavy\nthing.  THe HST isn't light either.  THe amount of OMS fuel\nneeded to fly both up is substantial.   a small booster\ncarried up and used to boost HST on it's own will weigh significantly\nless then the OMS fuel required to Boost  both HST and SHUttle,\nfor a given orbital change.  \n\nFrom what i understand,  the mass margins on the HST missions are\ntight enough they can't even carry extra Suits or MMU's.\n\nNow if they used a small tug,  I would bet,  just a wild guess,\nthat the savings on amss margin  would allow carrying the\nEDO pallet,  extra suits,  more consumables,  parts for the\nflaky FGS sensor,  parts for the balky solar  electronics,\n\nand still enough for a double magnum of champagne.\n\nor the HST could even get placed into  some sort of medium orbit.\nThe reason they want a high orbit, is less antenna pointing,\nand longer drag life.\n\n\na\nWhatever it is,  the problem in the tilt array is a big constraint\non HST ops.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Go with the Mercedes, if you can afford it.  I think the 300 wagon starts around\n50k, although it could be 60k.\n\nThere is no comparison with any of the other cars listed.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nA Yugo that will go 1\/4mi in 7.7 seconds will _not_ lose on the\nstreet. That's just too damn quick. It might be wrapped around\na telephone pole at the end of that quarter mile, but it will\nbe there alone...\n\n\nOr you could replace the stock shifter with a Hurst short-throw\nshifter (available from Ford Motorsport), or any number of other\nafter-market products to boost the performance of a Mustang or\nCamaro. Can you do _that_ with a '93 RX-7, or, verily, with _any_\nMR-2? With the Detroit aftermarket, you can build a Mustang or\nCamaro which is superior to either car you mention for less than\nthe sticker price of either.\n\n\nWell, gee. It works, and it doesn't break. It transmits power to\nthe drive wheels, and it's essentially zero maintenance--and there's\nan aftermarket in parts for Ford and Chevy rear-ends, too.\n\n\nWell, the '93 Mustang Cobra (which, from all reports, uses the\nsame running gear as '94 Mustang) has 4-wheel disks. I can't\nspeak for the new Camaro, but I think it does, too.\n\nAlso, stop and think about the markets here. The Mustang is, and\nalways has been, a mass-market sporty car (that's where the\n\"pony car\" class came from) with a performance model. That's\nwhy it has the econo-box running gear. That was also factored\ninto the design of the Mustang from the day Lee Iacocca conceived\nhis baby; it was designed as a wide-market car--sporty, yet \naccessible--with room for performance tweaking.\n\nThe cars you listed are designed for a specific market niche,\nand they both fit those niches very well. The Mustang, at least,\ndoes well in multiple markets; I can't speak for the Camaro.\n\n\t\t\t\tJames","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Well, we're almost halfway through the first round, and so far things are\ngood in general:\n\n  1. The 2 teams that I hate most: Chicago and \"Basten\" are down 3 zip.\n     (even though there is a possibility either can still win their\n      series, yet this ego-thrashing and arrogance-smashing by the\n      underdogs (St. Louis and Buffalo) is so rewarding).\n  2. Montreal is at this stage in a team's life where they are not good\n     enough to go all the way, yet too good to be able to get some\n     (really) good draft picks... :-(\n  3. Is it just me, or does anyone out there also think that this year\n     the cup final should be played between 2 teams from the WALES?\n  4. Is it just because they're playing Montreal that I find the diques\n     arrogant ***'s, or are they really?\n  5. Smythe-what???? I'm really getting sick of seeing Douggie and Wendel\n     night in and night out... We should see some Canucks\/Jets\/Flames\n     action...!\n  6. Don Cherry is an ******* alright, but hey... so are our politicians...\n  \nObLeafsJoke:  Q. what do you get when you cross a maple leaf and a \n                groundhog?\n              A. Six more weeks of crummy hockey!\n------------------------------------------------------------------\nL8R, dudes...\nGO HABS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!\n\n-- \n---------------------------------------------------------------------------\nJon Shaib  ac291@carleton.freenet.ca","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"When I changed from SVR4 to SVR4.2 on my Intel box I discovered that\nsome of my SVR4 xclients such as xload, etc would no longer work.\n\n\nThey bomb out with the message:\n\nerror: can't open display unix:0.0\n\nIs this because they can't find the correct shared libraries, they need\nto be recompiled, or have I not used the correct options?\n\nBoth systems use X11R5.\n\nThanks.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Current votes for favorite goalie masks (3pts - 1st, 2pts - 2nd, 1pt - 3rd)\n\nPlayer                    Team                 Pts       Votes\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n1. Ed Belfour             Chicago              31         14\n2. Andy Moog              Boston               30         13\n3. Curtis Joseph          St. Louis            26         11 \n   Brian Hayward          San Jose             26         10 \n5. Ron Hextall            Quebec               16          8\n6. Gerry Cheevers         Boston (retired)     11          6 \n7. John Vanbeisbrouck     NY Rangers           10          4\n   Grant Fuhr             Buffalo              10          4 \n9. Mike Richter           NY Rangers            6          3\n10. Manon Rheaume         Atlanta (IHL)         5          2\n11. Don Beaupre           Washington            4          2\n    Ken Dryden            Montreal (retired)    4          2\n--------------------------------------------------------------\nOthers receiving less than 4pts: Mike Vernon (Cal), Clint\n Malarchuk (Buf\/SD,IHL), Tommy Soderstrom (Phil), Ray LeBlanc (USA),\n Artus Irbe (SJ), Tim Cheveldae (Det), Sean Burke (NJ),\n Rick Wamsley (Tor,ret), Jon Casey (Minn), Bob Essensa (Win),\n Glenn Healy (NYI), Toy Espo (???), Gilles Gratton (???),\n Rod Stauber (LA), Gump Worsley (???), Pat Jablonski (TB),\n Grant Fuhr (Tor), Felix Potvin (Tor), Stephane Beauregard (Win),\n Mark Fitzpatrick (NYI), Chico Resch (NYI)\n\n\nCan someone please tell me which teams the (???) play(ed) for? Thanks.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
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{"text":"dps@nasa.kodak.com Pontificated: \n\nCan you cite an example of this.  Please post an answer as I\ndon't want to receive e-mail.  \n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":": \n:    Isn't there a relatively new treatment for kidney stones involving\n:    a non-invasive use of ultra-sound where the patient is lowered\n:    into some sort of liquid when he\/she undergoes treatment? I'm sure\n:    I've read about it somewhere. If I remember it correctly it is a\n:    painless and effective treatment.\nThe use of shock waves (not ultrasound) to break up stones has been\naround for a few years.  Depending on the type of machine, and intensity\nof the shock waves, it is usually uncomfortable enough to require\nsomething...  The high-power machines cause enough pain to require\ngeneral or regional anesthesia.  Afterwards, it feels like someone\nslugged you pretty good!\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\nWell ...\nHave a look at a new journal: Journal of Experimental Mathematics\nIt has several Fields medallists on its editorial board.\nYou want to knwo more?\nTry Klaus Peters in Boston or David Epstein at Warwick .\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"According to what I saw in a store today, the Performa 405 is not the same\nas an LCIII.  It only has a 16Mhz 68030 while the LCIII has a 25Mhz 030.\nCorrect me if I am wrong, because it is possible that the dealer may have\nforgotten to remove the description that was next to the actual computer.\nDealers who sell the Performa are known to have about as much knowledge\nabout Macs as I do about DOS machines.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nAnd as someone mentioned earlier, from the apocryphal Book of Enoch,\nsatan was apparently kicked out for three times asserting his own will,\n\"I will\".  Hmmm...pro-choice looks kinda creepy here.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nI am using a NEC 4FG with my Centris 610. The cable adapter was provided by\nNEC (you have to call to get this free adapter). I am also sharing it with my\n486 (using a switch box and extra cables).\n\nMy questions: \n\n\tHow do you tell if it is 600x400 or 800x600 that was displayed?\n\tOr how do you change the mode(resolution)? \n\tIs there SW for this or something I have to do with the HW?\n\nI am assuming I am getting 800x600 since I have 1M VRAM and the 4FG can display\n1028x768(?) with my 486.\n\n                                                              ","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"For sale by owners who were also the builders\n\nContemporary Cape House located in Sandwich, Ma\n\nThree bedrooms, two baths, one car oversized garage\nlarge eat-in kitchen\nCathedral ceiling from to back living room\ndeck off of kitchen and dining room\n\n20,000 sq ft\n1,696 sq ft living space\nfull walk-out basement\n\n$139,900, creative financing a possibility","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI think to some extent this is a case of stooping to their level.  You assume\nthat the general public \"can't handle the truth\" and then, based on this \nassumption, go for the fluff arguments.  Then someone, who can understand a\ngood argument, comes along and asks \"why don't you just develop the spinoffs?\"\nor \"why can't we just get our spinoffs from some other program, like the\nmilitary?\"  There are some good arguments for space development without relying\non its side effects.  I'm not ignoring the value of spinoffs.  I simply think\nthat the general public deserves more credit than you give them.\n\n\nAnd if you're going to use spinoffs you better make darn sure you are right.\nTeflon has been around since before NASA.  As I understand it, Velcro was \nconceptualized by a french doctor who went walking in the woods and took the\ntrouble to wonder how burrs stick to your clothes.  Certainly velcro was \navailable on hiking equipment by the early to mid sixties.  I would need to \nsee some good evidence before I believe that either of these would not be here\ntoday without NASA.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Is anyone out there knowledgeable on drug issues in Japan?  I'm interested\nin knowing if Japan has or has ever had a problem with drugs, and how they\ndealt with it.  I've heard, undocumented, that Japan years ago used heavy\nlegal penalties to end a serious heroin problem.  I'd like to know both\nsides of the story.  Does anyone recall such a problem?  What were laws\nat the time relating to drug use, drug dealing, and drug trafficking?  What\nare the laws now?  What other anti-drug measures, like education and treatment\nhas Japan used?  How are drugs regarded by the Japanese people?  How effective\nhave anti-drug measures been in Japan?  Thanks for your help.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Anyone know of a good software package that will allow us to keep track of\nwho is printing what and when?  Is there any way to get Print Manager to keep\na log?  Is there a Print Manager replacement that will do this?  How about a\npackage that will only allow access to the system for people in a password \nfile?  I looked at Chastity, but it will let you log in without a password,\nand doesn't keep tabs of who got on and when.  \n   Any help will be greatly appreciated.\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nYeh,but :\n\n1.Biran Sutter's playoff record as the head coach in St.L wasn't very\nimpressive. His Blues teams were eliminated very early in the playoffs.\nIt doesn't look like this trend will change with the Bruins.\n\n2. Bruins have never come back to win after falling behind 2-0 in their\nentire 68-year history. It doesn't look like Buffalo will just lose\ntheir next two games at the Aud with the way Fuhr has been standing on\nhis head.\n\nBasically,the Bruins will be on the golf course by next weekend.\nAlso,it seems like the whole Boston area has gone baseball crazy after\nan incredibly great start by the Red Sox(best record in their major\nleagues as of now). I would say that 70% of the callers to the Bruins'\nflagship station(SportsRadio 590) are talking about the Red Sox,about\n15% are yapping about the Patriots' upcoming draft,10% are on the Celtics\nand about 5% are on the Bruins.\nSomehow,no one around here is really schocked the way Bruins are folding\nearly.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nDon't forget the LAMG (Los Angeles Macintosh Group) BBS! It's the BBS for\nthe largest Mac-only user group in the country now that BMUG is\nmulti-platform.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":" >but whether I would.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nWhat a dope!  There is no value for Mohammed Elabdellaoui to be here\nat a Western University.  Third-worldist and Islamic brain-rot has\nmade it impossible for him to acquire and analyze facts appropriately.\n\nThe history of the efforts of the Mufti of Jerusalem to serve the\nNazis in the South Balkans and set up Muslim SS Divisions is\nwell-documented.  In general, Nazism and the leader-principle\nresonated well among Muslim peoples.  Khomeini's concept of the faqih\nis a recent example of such resonance.  In fact, totalitarianism is\netymologically a reasonable translation Islam.\n\nTo be fair, the Mufti did not succeed in getting large numbers of\nMuslims to join the SS.  But the rather small Muslim SS unit did\nmanage to commit attrocities disproportionate to it size.  There were\nalso Muslim people who were less than enthusiastic about the attempt\nof Muslim leaders to entice Muslim people to serve the Nazi cause\nactively.  And the Turkish government ignored practically all Nazi\novertures even though an alliance with the Nazis against the Soviet\ngovernment would have made a great deal of tactical sense.\n\n\t\t\tLast time I heard, the nazis prided themselves in\n\nYes, the typical primitive Muslim psychopathological psychotic\nbehavior upon hearing or reading a disagreeable fact -- start whining\nabout the Jews.  What a jerk.\n\n\nYou should go back to your mindlessly stupid 3rd world country.  Your\nbrain has no business in a civilized first world country.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nSez Dave Kingman when he used to take off for Rosh Hashanna and Yom\nKippur on days they coincided with the season.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Is there a tn3270 program which support xterm? I don't like x3270 at all. You\ncan't copy with other windows. Thanks.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":": >What tube does the Viewsonic 17 use?  Does is support 1600x1280?  I've been\n: >looking a a Philips 1762DT which uses a Sony Trinitron tube, has digital\n: >controls, supports up to 1280x1024NI, and has .25mm dot pitch - It can be\n: >found for under $1000.\n\n: The original poster, John Navitsky, said that he might use the monitor on\n: a SparcStation LX. The LX is able to generate a picture at 1280*1024 at\n: 76 Hz. Not officially, but I tried to set this resolution and refresh rate\n: and the LX came up with a non-syncing screen. Our tube obviously couldn't\n: handle this speed. At 67 Hz, it worked perfectly.\n\nI don't know which tube the Viewsonic 17 uses, but it has an 82khz horizontal\nbandwidth so you can go pretty high.  I ran mine at 1280x1024x75 which was as\nfast as the Orchid P9000 could drive it.  Also, the 17 does claim to be able\nto support 1600x1280, but I have no experience with that.\n\nSince I have the spec sheet in front of me I'll type some in:\n\nCRT:\t17\", 0.28 mm dot pitch, 90 deg deflection, RGB mediou short\n\tpersisance, Tint (TM=52%), anti-static, anti-glare, anti-reflection\n\nInput Signal:  RGB Analog 0.7Vp-p, 75 ohms (also has setting for 1Vp-p)\n\tSync: H\/V Separate(ttl), composite (+\/-), sync on green (+\/-)\n\thorizontal freq: 30-82Khz, vertical freq: 50-90Hz\ncompatibility: PC from VGA to 1600x1280 non-interlaced, mac IIci and above\ncontrols: contrast, brightness, position, size, degauss, p-p voltage, color\n\ttemp, sync select, color tuning, moire on\/off.\nvideo band witdth: 135 MHz\nMax brightness: 120 cd\/m2 at white flat field\nmisconvergence: .35mm (max) at center, .45mm (max) at corner\ndimensions: 16.3\"x16.22\"x17.64\", weight 42.6 lbs\n\nI don't know what some of those mean and don't verify their accuracy, I just \ntyped them in.  Other things they hype on the sheet are a 'double quaduple\ndynamic astigmatism focus'.  Right.  They mean they use two lenses.  Advanced\nInvar shadow mask.  ViewMatch color control which they claim is and easy-to-use\nsystem that adjusts colors to closely match printer output.  As near as I have\nbeen able to figure out, this translates to separate controls for red, green,\nand blue.  How this makes it easy to match for printer output is beyond me.\n\nBut beyond the hype, the monitor is very pleasant to look at.  Sharp, clear,\nand isn't nearly as bad as the NEC's for reflections.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n$200 in Glassboro, New Jersey  :(\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I'm new to the MS-Windows world, and while a fairly competent\nSparc\/Nextstep programmer, I have no idea which development kit\nto purchase.  I have heard good things about Borland C++ with\nApplication Frameworks and Microsoft's Visual C++ with SDK (?)\n\nWhat I would like is peoples comments on which package or set\nof tools they find useful or productive and why.  There are a\nplethora of other kits such as GUI toolkits available and I'm\nwondering which of these are best in terms of reliability, plug\nand go type operation, readability and so on.  I'd be interested\nin comments on these or anything else you may find useful.\n\nI will summarize to the net if there is enough interest.\n\n\nThanks,\nVeenu","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"And  \n\nAnd Bejing = Peking, who cares about native tongue, as long as we all  \nunderstand each other.\n\n\nOh, not more than a few feet, I wouldn't think.  I'm sorry IF your paternal  \ngrandparents died in Oswiecym or Aushwitz, which is easier to say than prove,  \nbut if so, the lesson they paid thier lives for was wasted on you.\n\n\nYou are the expert.  I often feel compelled to brag about the circumstances of  \nmy grandparent's death.  8-}\n\n\nA BATF offense, if true.\n\n\nA LOCAL offense, if true.  Totally outside the BATF's domain.\n\n\nI didn't know the man.  Just what the TV chose to tell me.\n\n\nI thought there were prejudicial undertones here.  I would trust my daughter's  \njudgement.\n\n\nI don't believe either side blindly.\n\nIF they fired first, without announcing in a beleivable way who they were ( I  \ncan pound on your door and claim to be the police, will you just lay down and  \ntake it if I do?), then he could be justified in firing on the ATF in  \nself-defense.\n\n\n\"His background\"?  What law has he been convicted of breaking in the past?\n\nJim\n--\njmd@handheld.com","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":": Please reply to the seller below.\n: \n: 210M Formatted SCSI Hard Disk 3.5\"\n: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\n:     Rodime 3259TS  (3 available)\n\nWARNING\nI have had bad experience with this model and I know several others\nwho also have run into difficulties. The drives will work just a limited\nperiod of time and after that the disk will report medium error.\nDont ask me for details, my disk is just stone dead.\n\nDavid","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"#> I heard the diesels are considered cleaner-burning than\n#> gas engines because the emit less of: Carbon Monoxide,\n#> Hydrocarbons, and Oxides of Nitrogen.  (CO, HC, NOX).\n#> \n#> But they can put out a lot of particulate matter.  I heard\n#> something about legislation being discussed to \"clean up\n#> diesel emissions\".  Is there anything in the works to\n#> install \"scrubbers\" for diesels?  How about the feasibility\n#> of installing them on trucks and cars?  Would it be any\n#> different than a catylitic converter?  I'd assume easier,\n#> since we're removing particulate matter instead of converting\n#> gasses.  Let's hear people's opinions...\n#> \n# \n#VW and Mercedes have tinkered with particulate traps.  Also, VW\n#uses a kind of turbocharger on their Jetta ECOdiesel that helps\n#reduce particulates as well, although I don't know the\n#mechanics of it.\n# \n#Many diesel cars,busses, and trucks in Europe are now being\n#equipped with catalysts and traps in an effort to clean up\n#diesel emissions, already well below legal limits anyway.\n# \n#It's a shame GM had to soil the diesel's reputation in\n#passenger cars and prevent further resource devotion to\n#research into making this outstandingly efficient engine even\n#further ahead of gas engines in emissions.\n# \n#erik\n\n   I sure don't know what and how they measure in regards to diesel \n motors in cars, trucks, and busses, but I think they are probably\n measuring the wrong pollutants, or at the wrong time, or both.\n\n   I certainly find it offensive to drive behind a diesel bus or\n diesel truck and some diesel cars.  They stink!  And it's always\n roll-up-the-windows panic time when one comes by or ducks in front\n of me when I am driving with my family.\n\n   I don't think the combustion mixture is kept under very good\n control in diesel engines, and that's why they stink.  So the \n invisible, unsmellable pollutants are reduced in diesels.  Yeah,\n well so what!?  Someone forgot about the visible, stinky kind, and,\n as far as I am concerned, those kind are just as bad.\n\n    I am all for de-stinking the diesel vehicles.  It'll keep the\n traffic signs cleaner, too.\n\n Fred W. Bach ,    Operations Group        |  Internet: music@erich.triumf.ca\n TRIUMF (TRI-University Meson Facility)    |  Voice:  604-222-1047 loc 327\/278\n 4004 WESBROOK MALL, UBC CAMPUS            |  FAX:    604-222-1074\n University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., CANADA   V6T 2A3","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I am looking for a shareware graphics package called NeoPaint v1.1.  I \nsaw it in a shareware catalog and was hoping that I could FTP it from \nthe net but have been unable to locate it.  I have tried Archie and I \nhave gone through the entire comp.graphics newsgroup looking for some \nreference to it and have found none.  I have  also looked through the \nFAQ and also no reference.  The program is called NeoPaint v1.1 and if \nanyone has heard of it or knows where I can get it I would appreciate \nit.\n\nSuggestions for other PC based shareware paint programs would also be \nappreciated. Email me your responses.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Hi there, maybe you can help me...\n\nI have an '88 Corolla with a 5 speed as the subject line says.  The gearbox\nseems excessivly clunky.  I used to have an '85 Corolla, and it was also \nsomewhat clunky, but it had 30,000 more miles on it, and it wasn't nearly as\nbad as this car!  Is there fluid in the 5speed case?  If there is, could it\njust be low, or in need of a change?  As I recall, only the autos have fluid.\nOr am I just mistaken?  Please no flames for owning an import.  I also have\nan old Dodge, but it's not in very good shape these days...","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nIn a word, yes.\n\n1989 Bonnevilles prices (avg. retail):","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\tIf you get blown over riding your bike down your drive at home then\nit's too windy to ride...=8^D.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I ordered an external floppy drive from them 2 years ago.  When I placed\nthe order, they said it was in stock and would ship the next day.  A week\npassed and no drive.  I called them up and they said they were out of stock\nand my drive should ship in 2 weeks or so.  Since I needed the drive right\naway (both my internal hard drive and floppy were dead) I cancelled my\norder and haven't dealt with them since.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"When constructing active filters,  odd values of resistor are often required \n(i.e. something like a 3.14 K Ohm resistor).(It seems best to choose common \ncapacitor values and cope with the strange resistances then demanded).\n\nIs there a PD program out there that will work out how best to make up such\na resistance, given fixed resistors of the standard 12 values per decade?.(1,\n1.2,1.5,1.8,2.2,3.3 etc ).  It is a common enough problem,  yet I cant \nrecall seing a program that tells that Rx+Ry\/\/Rz gives Rq,  starting with \nq and finding prefered values x,y and z.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nI dunno about hat. I have friends up there on GEnie who are now saying that\nOttawa's gone soft on Daigle and is thinking hard about Pronger. Daigle has\nshown an Attitude the latter part of this season many folks havne't liked,\nand after coming back from his (second) multi-game suspension for being\nstupid, he's really tanked in his performance. His stock is dropping like a\nrock. \n\nAlso remember that a lot of teh \"draft 1st\" stuff comes from the assumption\nhe'll be traded to Quebec for lots of prospects. It's not clear that \nQuebec would really be willing to pay a lot for him given his current\nstatus. He's still first round, but I don't consider him a first pick lock\nby any means at this point.\n\nIt's also possible that the Senators are posturing to try to bring down his\nsigning price, since Daigle has been taking some Lindros lessons during thos\nsuspensions.\n\n\n\nNo. Kariya won't go in the first three, for a very simple reason: he's not\nleaving college, and I don't believe ANY of the expansion teams are going to\nuse a first for someone who won't be around for another year or two, not\nwhen there is equally good (or almost as good) stuff available that can make\nan immediate impact. San jose seems to be leaning heavily towards\nNiedermayer for that reason. Kariya could go 6th or 7th, unless a team can\nconvince him to leave school early (which I doubt).\n\n\nMy cut on things as they stand today:\n\n\t(it depends on if the Sharks can get a deal for him. I don't\n\tbelieve they draft him to keep him).\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nThat's fascinating.  I take it that you're expressing skepticism\nat the idea that those ignorant savages could have influenced\nthe Constitution of the people who stole their continent.  You\ncould be right, but it sounds plausible to me.  Is there any\nreason that you dismiss it out-of-hand?  Here's some more:\n\n   Recent scholarship has shown that in the mid-1700s Indians were not\n   only invited to participate in the deliberations of our \"founding\n   fathers,\" but that the Great Binding Law of the Iroquois Confederacy\n   arguably became the single most important model for the 1754 Albany\n   Plan of Union, and later the Articles of Confederation and the\n   Constitution.  That this would be absent from our school texts,\n   and from history, and from media is not surprising given the devotion\n   Americans feel to our founding myth: Great men gathered to express\n   a new vision that has withstood the test of time.  If it were\n   revealed that Indians had a role in it, imagine the blow to the\n   American psyche.\n   ...\n      By 1754, when most of these men and others gathered to creat the\n   Albany Plan of Union, the first try at confederation, they invited\n   forty-two members of the Iroquois Grand Council to serve as advisors\n   on confederate structures.  Benjamin Franklin freely acknowledged\n   his interest in the Iroquois achievement in a famous speech at\n   Albany Congress: \"It would be a strange thing...if six nations\n   of ignorant savages[sic] should be capable of forming such a union\n   and be able to execute it in such a manner that it has subsisted\n   for ages and appears indissoluble, and yet that a like union should\n   be impractical for ten or a dozen English colonies.\"\n      According to Grinde, Franklin convened meetings of Iroquois chiefs\n   and congressional delegates in order to \"hammer out a plan that he\n   acknowedged to be similar to the Iroquois Confederacy.\"\n\nGrinde is Professor Donald Grinde,Jr., of the University of California\nat Riverside whose book _The Iroquois and the Founding Fathers of the\nAmerican Nation_ addresses this issue.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":" \n \n \n \n Hey, we could start a new game on the net.  It's called 'Where's Roger?'\nIt's similiar to 'Where's Waldo?' but instead of finding Waldo in a picture\nof people, we try to find Roger in a newsgroup on the net.\n I predict that he'll be in r.s.basketball.pro next.\n \n ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nThis story was in the LA Times a few months ago.\nThe Clinton administration is exploring every avenue of\n\"revenue enhancement\", but not all will be chosen.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I have a Logitech 256grays hand scanner from a PC.  I'm wondering if anyone\nhas been successful in connecting the scanner to a mac?  It has the same\nconnector and is a serial device on the pc.  I can imagine the pins coniguration would need to changeed, but I'm not sure if the signal levels would be correct,\nand if the mac s\/w would work with it.  \n\nOf course the manuals say nothing about the interface, connector layout or\nanything H\/W-ish!\n\nAny ideas??\n\n\nthanx,","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"To really speed up the game umps need to START CALLING STRIKES the way\nthey used to.  I'm talking about making the strike zone start at the\nknees and go up to the top of the letters.  Forget this \"the strike zone\nis in the general area of the groin\".  A lot less 3-and-2 counts and a\nquicker game. \n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nCheck into the vopl and vogle libraries.  I beleive that I still have\nthem available on ftp.c-mols.siu.edu but I'm not sure.  I haven't seen\nany new announcements for the software but I'm sure it's still around.\n\nI have used it to do real-time data display and analysis as well as\njust for producing graphs after the fact.  It works well and supports\nnumerous graphics output formats (including X.)  I tried it and liked\nit.  YOu may as well.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nIt is still incestuous.... :)\n\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"folks,\n\nI have a Panasonic kx-1124 (just inherited with no documentation) which is \ngiving me a problem that i cant resolve.\n\n The paper out light refuses to go out . It starts to blink when ever i\nturn the power on which 2 beeps. It does allow be to go on line with green\nlight lit, simultanously the red paper out light also remains lit -but is\ndoes not blink.\n\n Please do not give any references to manuals , as i dont have any.\n\nThanking you all very much in advance.\n\nSincerely","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\tMinor quibble back at you.  I am in the same general area as\n\tthe Koresh compound and I can tell you that the air was quite\n\tchilly that morning, especially with the high winds that\n\twere blowing. (Of course the swiss cheese walls made it\n\teven worse. ;-)\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"+\n+>This tactic depends for its effectiveness on the dog's conformance to\n+>a \"psychological norm\" that may not actually apply to a particular dog.\n+>I've tried it with some success before, but it won't work on a Charlie Manson\n+>dog or one that's really, *really* stupid.  A large Irish Setter taught me\n+>this in *my* yard (apparently HIS territory) one day.  I'm sure he was playing \n+>a game with me.  The game was probably \"Kill the VERY ANGRY Neighbor\" Before \n+>He Can Dispense the TERRIBLE PUNISHMENT.\n+\n+What, a dog weighs 150lb maybe, at max? You can't handle it?\n+\n+You have, I presume, thumbs? Grapple with it and tear it's head\n+off!\n+\n+Sheesh, even a trained attack dog is no match for a human,\n+we have *all* the advantages.\n\nLook, if you are worried about being attacked by a dog, just carry\nsome \"Spot\" remover with you :-).\n____________________________________________________________________________\n\t\tRussian Roulette is fun 5 out of 6 times","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n    Mostly. The Q950 does have a SCSI2 controller chip as it's SCSI\nchip, but it does not have the chips to use the Wide or Fast SCSI-2\nmodes and therefore doesn't offer much more in the way of SCSI\nperformance over the Q900. It does, howrever, have a faster I\/O\ncontroller than the Q900; this is where the real speed boost comes from.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":": At the risk of beginning a cascade, I'll start with a possibly cheesy\n: good 'ol Uhmericun:\n\n: \"Our shield is freedom\"\n\nOr, considering what our government has been doing for the past 50 years,\nperhaps this would be more appropriate:\n\n     \"100% Debt\"\n\n--","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nYou don't say what kind of \"electronic equipment\" you mean.  It's hard\nto give a generic answer.  There is essentially no solvent that won't\ndo things like washing lubricant out of switches.\n\nWhen we've needed to do an emergency cleaning job on things, we've just\nused distilled water.  The key thing to remember is to make sure the gear\nis *completely* dry before powering it up again.  We let it dry for\nseveral days to be damn sure.\n\nI doubt that methanol has significant advantages over water.  I would\nbe very wary of CCl4, not least because it is dangerous to *you* even\nif it's not going to harm the equipment -- not only is it poisonous,\nbut I believe it's now known to be carcinogenic.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nThat study which was in the NEJM, I think, noted that the frequency\nof heart surgery on patients over seventy increase with income in\nCalifornia (I guess richer people have more heart disease in \nCalifornia -) ) whereas the frequency of surgery on patients over\nseventy in Canada was relatively uniform across income distribution.\nHeart surgery was more frequent in California, but mortality and\noutcomes were essentially the same.\n\n\nThe only potential problem I see with the private MRI facilty in Calgary is the\nself-referral problem to the facility for the doctors who have a financial\ninterest in it, which is basically unethical...but in Canada because\nof our small population, there is likely only to be a few private\nfacilities involving only a small number of doctors,\nand thus I don't think the self-referral problem, which is an epidemic in the\nUS, could ever get out of hand here.\n\n\nIt is an experiment that will be certainly be watched carefully.\n\n\nWhat likely happened is the sponsors of the private MRI which include\ndoctors anticipated that Alberta would need more MRI's, and instead\nof waiting for the health planners to realize they needed another\none or two, saw a business opportunity...where they would have a\nsecure business from the public insurance side of things, and they\ncould supplement people and businesses who want to pay cash.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n: PS The first posting I saw I thought was a joke in *VERY* bad taste. My appologies\n: to the person who broke the news.\n\nFor what it's worth...\n\n\n: Note:  This file will also be available via anonymous file\n: transfer from csrc.ncsl.nist.gov in directory \/pub\/nistnews and\n: via the NIST Computer Security BBS at 301-948-5717.\n:      ---------------------------------------------------\n: \n:                          THE WHITE HOUSE\n: \n\nI haven't been able to open an ftp session with that machine.\n\nOperating under the assumption that the address was wrong, I tried using\nnslookup and nicname\/whois...\n\n[nnsc.nsf.net]\nHost or domain name            Internet address              \n[...]\n ncsl                           server = mail-gw.ncsl.nist.gov         \n mail-gw.ncsl                   129.6.48.199\n ncsl                           server = dove.nist.gov                 \n ncsl                           server = ecf.ncsl.nist.gov             \n ecf.ncsl                       129.6.48.2\n ncsl                           server = enh.nist.gov                  \n ncsl                           server = SUNMGR.NCSL.NIST.GOV          \n SUNMGR.NCSL                    129.6.48.12\n[...]\n\nThat's all I could find about the ncsl domain...oh, and I tried an MX lookup\non the machine in question, which failed.  Nicname\/whois domain lookups at\nboth registries failed, too. \n\nSo I thought, \"hey, I'm just not using the tools right\" and tried calling\nthe BBS number -- no answer.\n\nI'm probably doing something wrong...or, perhaps, the machine has been put\nbehind a firewall.  But it does look like csrc.ncsl.nist.gov has become an\nun-machine.  If someone would try ftp'ing to it, or knows what's up, I'd\nreally appreciate the info. ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nAs a matter of fact, I just saw a dermatologist the other day, and while I \nwas there, I asked him about dry skin. I'd been spending a small fortune\non various creams, lotions, and other dry skin treatments.\nHe said all I needed was a large jar of vaseline. Soak in a lukewarm tub\nof water for 10 minutes (ONLY 10 minutes!) then massage in the vaseline,\nto trap the moisture in. That will help. I haven't tried it yet, but you\ncan bet I will. The hard part will be finding the time to rub in the\nvaseline properly. If it's not done right, you remain greasy and stick\nto your clothes.\nTry it. It's got to be cheaper then spending $30 for 8 oz. of 'natural'\nlotion.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nLet me see if I got this right.\n\nGroup of religious plinter schismatics erect a compound\nand after at least fifty years of peaceful co-existance\nwith the outside community (having shoot outs only with\neach other) - this makes them dangerous.  Prior history\nwould seem to indicate they are only dangerous to themselves.\n\nLast I knew there was no National Branch Davidian Party\nblaming the debacle in VeitNam on Foreign Meddlers and\nthree-two beer, calling for the Rounding up of Meat Packers,\nGrowers and Slaughter Houses.\n\nYou want tough political choices - how about letting odd balls\nbe odd balls?  (I know, this requires tolerance for \nthose that go into Government - but we all know people\nwho have no useful skills.)\n\n\nith the death of the children everybody is getting\nreal upset - what about the other 40 plus people?\nI suppose that you consider children to be property\nof the state with the family as custodians. (In the\nStates its the other way around - children are parental property.)\nIf what you consider a Corrupt Government demands that\nyou send you children into _their_ tender care - I\nsuppose that you will obey the State and turn you children\nover to their care.  Sorry - I am not as enamoured of the\nwomb to tomb cradle that is IngSoc.\n\nGotta go, the beach is calling.\nchus\npyotr\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I have recently picked up a page scanner by the name of EZ-SCAN II\nmodel 35.  The software for it was made for per-Windows 3.x windows\nand will not work with the newwer windows.  Does any one out there kow\nwere I could find the company that made this beast (Copyrights say\n1987.) And the name GMS a division of DEST.  Does anyone know if these\ncompanies still exist and if they do, do they have an email address?\n\nOr, if anyone knows of a freeware\/shareware programme that is able to\naccess this scanner.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I am going to stop reading the homosexuality posts, at least for a  \nwhile, because of the repeated seemingly personal attacks on me via  \npost\/e-mail(mainly e-mail).  If anyone has a specific comment,  \nsuggestion, and\/or note that does not contain any name calling, etc.  \nthat they would like for me to read, send it to me via e-mail.  I  \nwould like a copy of file mentioned by the moderator ragarding the  \nexergetical issue of it.  I attempted to get it via ftp but was  \nunable.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":":>On the subject of CS\/CN\/tear gas: when I received my initial introduction to\n:\n:You couldn't find a window after six hours?  \n:\n:-- \n: Daniel A. Hartung  --  dhartung@chinet.chinet.com  --  Ask me about Rotaract\n\nHave you ever been violently sick repeatedly?  I have, and it was difficult to \ndrag myself back to my bed, much less move through a building full of smoke and\ndebris, especially when most likely already disoriented from lack of sleep and\nconstant psychological abuse...  Throw in the fact that the 'safety' outside\nconsists of people who have shot at me and thrown grenades at me, and are\ncurrently knocking my house down with tanks, I could understand if the BD's\nwere inclined to stay put in the center of the building...\n\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"        ^^^^^^^^^^\n\nThe acetaminophen is the agent of concern in overdose of this\nOTC medication.  A single dose of acetaminophen of 10 grams or greater\ncan cause hepatotoxicity, and doses of 25 grams or more are\npotentially fatal from hepatic necrosis.  If I recall\ncorrectly, the metabolism of acetaminophen at high doses\ninvolves N-hydroxylation to N-acetyl-benzoquinoneimine, which\nis a highly reactive intermediate, which then reacts with\nsulfhydryl groups of proteins and glutathione.  When hepatic\nglutathione is used up, this intermediate then starts\nattacking the hepatic proteins with resulting hepatic\nnecrosis.  The insidious part of acetaminophen toxicity is the\ndelay (2-4 days) between ingestion and clinical signs of liver\ndamage.  This is NOT a nice way to die.\n\nAs to taking 20-30 of these tablets, that comes to 5-7.5 grams\nof acetaminophen.  In a normal adult, this would probably\ncause nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, and loss of appetite.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nNanao: call 1-800-800-5202. Ask for a catalog.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\tI'm not sure that you can distinguish between myth and legend so\nneatly, or at all.  A myth is more than a single story.  The thought \nstructure and world-paradigm in which that story is interpreted is as\nimportant a part of the myth as the story itself.  Thus, I can think of\nno story which is meant to be conveyed understandably from one person\nto another within a single culture which won't rest upon that underlying\nthought structure, and thus transmit some of that culture's mythical\n\"truths\" along with it.  ","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Although simplistic I have always liked the fact that \"a Christian is one\nwho not only believes in God, but believes God.\"  After all the name was\nfirst given externally to identify those who \"preached Christ and Him\ncrucified\" to pay the price of their rebeliion and shortcomings before\nGod.  God said this was His son -- I belive Him.\n-- \nScott Dittman                    email: sdittman@wlu.edu\nUniversity Registrar             talk: (703)463-8455   fax: (703)463-8024\nWashington and Lee University    snail mail:  Lexington Virginia 24450","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\nJust to clear things up (as to why I posted the question that way)...\nI was debating with a co-worker about diesels.  I claimed they were\ncleaner-burning than gas engines.  He said the extra \"junk\" put out by them\nwas offset by the savings in greenhouse gasses.   I made all the SAME claims\nyou did.  But, one question of his was what about the carbon?  I said it\nwas harmless, but he wanted to know how to get rid of it.  I suggested\nscrubbers.  (I figured it would be no harder or more expensive to install\nthan \"cats\".)  Does there exist any designs for a scrubber?  (I'd like\nto know just to answer his final question.)  I convinced him that diesels\nare cleaner otherwise.\n\nBTW, (I named my subject \"Dirty Diesels\" because I knew it would get a reaction\nout of people who knew they were cleaner than gas engines and that they'd\nread it...)\n-- \n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n-- Vel Natarajan  nataraja@rtsg.mot.com  Motorola Cellular, Arlington Hts IL  --","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n[... other info deleted ...]\n\n\nAre you sure it's not a problem caused by software?  I've seen this sort \nof effect when a runaway program (which could be caused by an INIT \nconflict, for instance) accidentally wacks on a register in the video \nhardware.  Have you tried booting with no extensions and then letting the \nQ950 just sit there in the Finder?  You might also want to try changing to \n24-bit addressing (yes, I know you can't access your full 64 MB of RAM - \nit's just an experiment) as the video hardware registers can't be accessed \nthen.\n\nAnother thing to try as a 'recovery' measure is to use something like \nQuickKeys to change the pixel depth of the display.  This reprograms (some \nof) the video hardware registers and may allow sync to be restored.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Acorn Software, Inc. has 3 tape drives (currently used on a VMS\nsystem) for sale.  These are all SCSI tape drives and are in\nworking condition.\n \n         WangDat 1300 4mm                $500.00\n         WangDat 2600 4mm (compression)  $650.00\n         Exabyte 8200 8mm                $650.00 (SALE PENDING)\n \nPlus shipping and COD.  Certified checks only, please.  These\nunits are sold as is and without warrantee.  Contact me if you're\ninterested.\n-- \nDick Munroe\t\t\t\tInternet: munroe@dmc.com\nDoyle Munroe Consultants, Inc.\t\tUUCP: ...uunet!thehulk!munroe\n267 Cox St.\t\t\t\tOffice: (508) 568-1618\nHudson, Ma.\t\t\t\tFAX: (508) 562-1133","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Enclosed is an advertisement for the Defending the Faith IV\nconference to be held at Franciscan University of Steubenville (Ohio)\nJune 25-27.  I attended DTF III last year, and plan to go again this\nyear.  I would recommend it highly to Catholic interested in\napologetics.  There will be lots of music, well-known Catholic speakers,\nfellowship, as well as Eucharistic Liturgies Friday and Sunday.\n\n   Registration is $85 per person, but I believe financial aid is\navailable if you need it.  Housing in residence halls (each of which has\nits own Blessed Sacrament chapel), if desired, is $30\/person for double\noccupancy for two nights ($30 total). Reservations can also be made for\nyou at the very nearby Holiday Inn.  I think it was $47 a night there\nfor my single room.  Meals are available at the cafeteria (Friday dinner\nthrough Sunday lunch) for $38 or $32, with or without breakfast,\nrespectively.\n\n   Franciscan University of Steubenville is located in eastern Ohio on\nUS Route 22, 1\/2 mile west of the Ohio River and Ohio Route 7.  Greater\nPittsburgh International Airport is less than one hour (35 miles) from\ncampus.\n\n   Feel free to e-mail me if you have any question I can answer.\n\n   Here is the agenda, as typed in by a friend of mine:\n\nFriday afternoon special:\n\nReflections on C.S. Lewis, a preliminary session with Walter Hooper.\nWalter Hooper is one of the foremost international experts on the\nwritings of C.S. Lewis.  In 1963, he served as secretary to C.S. Lewis,\nand he has since edited 18 of Lewis' literary works for publication.\nWalter was ordained a priest in the Church of England in 1965, serving\nin Oxford, England, until he entered the Catholic Church in 1988.\n\n----------------\nFriday evening, opening session:\nIn Search of the Truth: Finding the Fullness of Faith\nBishop Fabian Bruskewitz.\n\nKnow Your Rites\nKimberly Hahn.\n-------------------\nSaturday Morning\nApologetics Means Never Having to Say You're Sorry\nKarl Keating\n\nC.S. Lewis: My Signpost to the Catholic Church\nWalter Hooper\n\nMass\nBishop Bruskewitz, celebrant\nFr. Ray Ryland, homilist\n\n---------------------------\nSaturday afternoon:\n\nThe Mystery of Femininity: Why It Excludes the Priesthood\nDr. Alice von Hildebrand\n\nMen Make Better Fathers: Masculinity and the Male Priesthood\nDr. Peter Kreeft\n\n----------------------------\nSaturday evening:\n\nWhen Do Catholics Hear the Gospel?\nDr. Thomas Howard\n\nThe Catholic Gospel: Not Just Saving Sinners\nScott Hahn\n\n-----------------------------\nSunday morning:\n\nThere's No Place Like Rome: The Pilgrimage of Two Protestant Pastors\nPanel.\n\nMass\nFr. Ray Ryland, celebrant\nFr. Michael Scanlan, TOR, homilist\n\n\n-\t-\t-\t-\t-\t-\t-\t-\t-\t-\n\n   Here is the ad that appeared in _The Catholic Answer_:\n\n                DEFENDING THE FAITH IV CONFERENCE\n\n                    CATHOLIC CHURCH TEACHING:\n\n              KNOW WHY YOU BELIEVE  June 25-27, 1993\n\n   Times have changed.  Major Catholic doctrines are misunderstood and\nattacked.  Like never before, believers need to know the reasons behind\nthe Catholic Church's teaching.  As our first pope urged: \"Always be\nready to give a defense for the hope that is within you\" (I Peter 3:15).\n\n   Grab your notebooks and get ready for an unforgettable spiritual and\nintellectual weekend.  This year's conference will candidly confront the\nhardest questions and objections about the Catholic faith.  Deepen your\nunderstanding of Church teaching with _Scott_ and _Kimberly Hahn, Dr.\nThomas Howard, Karl Keating, Dr. Alice von Hildebrand, Dr. Peter\nKreeft,_ and _Fr. Ray Ryland_.\n\n   Cut throught the confusion and doubt, and be better equipped to give\na defense for the hope that is within you.\n\n   Join us at _Defending the Faith IV_, the fourth in a series of annual\nconferences designed to strengthen the life of Catholics and others\ninterested in the Catholic faith.  It can help _you_ know why you\nbelieve.\n\n\nCall toll free today:\t\t\t\tFranciscan University\n800\/437-TENT\t\t\t\t\t   of Steubenville\nor 614\/283-6314\t\t\t\t   Steubenville, Ohio 43952-6701","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Is there a readily available solvent that does a good job at removing the  \ncorrosion\/encrustation that collects on the battery terminals (usually the  \ncathode) when using alkaline batteries (or more accurately, when NOT using  \nthem for a long time)? \n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n  I didn't say that.  Did you say that?  Wow, I can't believe that\nanyone would think that the Braves (or any other team, for that matter)\nshould get the title for free.  What a dolt that person would be, if\nthat was what they thought.  Incredible.\n\n\n\n\n--\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nI worked in support for a while at a company and we had problems with several\nToshiba 1600's in a short space of time. They were all around 2 years old.\nSome screens went completely (as above), others were just \"dodgy\".\n\nThis happened to about 5 or 6 out of, maybe 100. They were fairly reliable up\nto then and I don't think it was a special problem with Tosh's (no link to the\ncompany). So I would think that 21 months may not be unreasonable - just\nunlucky!\n\nRegards,\n\nKate.  :)|","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nUnlikely.  Ammunition is not as dangerous when simply burned as it\nis when fired from a gun.  The brass case is not capable of holding\nthe pressure generated by burning powder, and will (unless supported\nby the walls of a gun barrel or chamber) simply split open.  While\nthis may cause small pieces of brass to fly around, it will not\npropel the bullet with any significant velocity.\n\nIn fact, it was not uncommon in years past to dispose of old loaded\ncartridges by burning them.  As long as you were not close enough\nto take a piece of flying brass in the eye, you were reasonably safe.\n\nThus, the detonation of loaded magazines or loose rounds might cause\nslight injury but would be unlikely to cause fatal bullet wounds.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet\nfrom fear of evil.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"om>\n\n\nCliff, do you know the difference between \"Windows\" and \"Win-OS\/2\"?  Here's\na helpful hint:\n\nRunning \"Windows\" under OS\/2 2.0 is only possible in real mode, in a DOS\nbox. Of course, this is only possible with Windows 3.0, since Windows 3.1\nno longer has a \"real mode\".\n\nThe ability to run standard mode, the ability to have an OS\/2 <-> Windows\nclipboard, the ability to run seamless, and a few other things were all added\nby IBM to \"Win-OS\/2\".\n\nNow, everybody who is running \"Windows\" in real-mode in a DOS box under OS\/2\n2.x raise your hand. Finally, everybody who is running \"Win-OS\/2\" under OS\/2,\nraise YOUR hand.\n\nGet the picture, Cliff?\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"If this man Clark is a NASA administrator then god save NASA. Of course\nthe Shuttles record is unrivaled !  There is only one Shuttle. Furthermore,\nthere is only likely to be one Shuttle now that Hermes and Boron are \neffectively cancelled.\n\nThese officials should spend more of their time explaining to their\nEuropean and Asian partners how we are expected to believe in them\nwhen their paymasters change their minds on major international\nprojects everytime a new US administration takes office (considering\nthe major impacts this has on the European and Asian (Japanese)\nindustry). It is also appreciated how this affects American\nindustry. I am of course talking about Space Stattion Freedom.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"We are interested in constructing a reentry vehicle to be deployed from a\ntether attached to an orbiting platform.  This will be a follow on to our\nsuccesful deployment of a 20 kilometer tether on the March 29 flight of\nSEDS (Small Expendable Deployment System), which released an instrumented\npayload that reentered the earth's atmosphere and burned up over the west\ncoast of Mexico.  This time we want to make a payload that can be recovered.\nWe want to build it from \"off the shelf\" technology so as to do this as\nquickly and inexpensively as possible.  We want to be able to track the\npayload after it has deployed its parachute.  An idea we have is to put the\nsame kind of radio beacon on it that is used with SARSATs (Search and Rescue\nSatellites).  It would turn on with the opening of the parachute and aid in\ntracking.  These beacons are known in the marine industry as EPIRBs\n(Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beacon).  They are rugged (they have to\nbe to survive a ship wreck!) and cheap.  We have several questions:\n\n1.  What is the world authority regulating the use of SARSAT beacons.  Are\nthere multiple authorites, i.e. military and civilian?\n\n2.  What are the regulations regarding the use of SARSAT signals.  Can they\nbe used for one of a kind situations with a long lead time of warning the\nrelevant authorities, or are they strictly reserved for life threatening\nemergencies?\n\n3.  What is the coverage of SARSATS?  Are they in LEO with only intermittant\ncoverage of a fixed position on the earth, or are they in geosynchronous\norbit?\n\n4.  Is there an industry organization governing the use and manufacture of\nthese transponders?\n\nPlease post replies here or send E-mail to me at:\n\tfennell@well.sf.ca.us\nThanak you very much for any assistance you can provide.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
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{"text":" \nThe FBI has claimed from the begining that it wasn't standard use\ntear gas. How do you know it was? Or do you just assume it was\nfor flamebait?","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"HELP!\n\nI am trying to find software that will allow COM port redirection under\nWindows for Workgroups.  Can anyone out there make a suggestion or reccommend\nsomething.  I would really hate to have to write some driver for the serial\nport that would support the network, but that is my next step.\n\nThanks in advance.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":": My wife wants to publish a newsletter. She's no artist, so she intends to\n: use comercial clipart and customise it a bit by drawing a circle or a box\n: around it etc. \n:  \n: We have MSPublisher for manipulating text, but it is not suitable for doing\n: much with graphics, so she needs a more specialised tool. Right now she's\n: looking at Corel Draw and Harvard Draw. There seem to be more books in the\n: stores on Corel than on Harvard, so she's inclined to go with Corel on the\n: basis of popularity. Can anyone give us an informed opinion on which \n: package would be more suitable or if there is an even better alternative\n: available? If this is a FAQ, please withhold the flames and just send the\n: location of the FAQ document. Thanks.\n:  \n\nGo with CorelDraw.  PCMag just did a review a couple of issues ago and Adobe\nIllustrator and CorelDraw were picked as the best.\n\n: Three PS's:\n:  \n: 1) Is it ok to use clip art from Harvard Draw or whatever for commercial\n:    purposes?\n\n(other two deleted...)\nAs far as I know it's okay.  You'd have to read the licence agreement that\ncomes with the package to be sure.\n\n-- ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nI believe that Phil Esposito was the first to wear #77 when he played\nwith the Rangers in the '70s.  This was the season that they put the\nRangers crest and \"modern-style\" numbers on the jerseys instead of the\n\"NEW YORK\" or \"RANGERS\" block letters and two-colour numbers.  He took #77\nbecause the Rangers already had a #7.\n\n(Hockey Night in Canada made a big thing out of it, saying it was the\nbiggest uniform style change in a long time.  This was before Pittsburgh\nand Vancouver changed their colours.)\n\n     dwarf","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nPlease do not do this!\n\nI don't know how the rest of you read news, but here's how I do it:  I\nsubscribe to an \"outernet\" system which allows me to dial up via modem and\ndownload e-mail and news articles automatically.  When someone posts a\nhuge attached binary file, I have no choice but to receive it along with\nall the other new articles in the groups I subscribe to.  I also pay for\nthe connect time, which is normally not a problem because I have a 14.4K\nmodem and each day's upload\/download session takes only 5 minutes or so. \nToday's session, however, lasted about 25 minutes because of ROMAN.BMP. \nConsequently, it cost me about $3.00 extra just to receive a file that I\ndidn't want in the first place.\n\nIf you have cool bitmaps that you want to make available, there are other\nways to do it:  either upload the file to an ftp site (like\nftp.cica.indiana.edu, which has a complete Windows section) and tell\npeople how to get to it, or use one of the newsgroups like\nalt.binaries.pictures (or something like that), which are file archives\nrather than discussion groups.  Don't use discussion groups like this one\nto send out attached files, especially when they're 600K in size.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n[...stuff deleted...]\n\nAs many posters have said in as many posts lately, this is just\nnot true.  For to show no interest in the existence of god takes no\nfaith at all.  You make the presumption that the _knowledge_ of the \n_possibility_ of something is enough to require faith to render \nthat possibilty of no interest.  It is a very different thing to say\nthat you don't believe something than it is to say that you don't\nhave sufficent reason to believe something is even interesting to \nthink about.  It's not either or.  Sometimes is just something else\nmore interesting that occupies your mind.  \n\nI agree that faith and dogma are inevitable, but not necessarily\napplied to god and religion.  It takes both faith and dogma to\nexpect the sun to come up every morning, but there is overwhelming\nreason every single day, day in and day out, for _everyone_ to put \nhis faith and dogma there.  Not so with the christian religion.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nWell, an LT1 Blazer wouldn't come close to a GMC Typhoon in speed, I think its\ntoo heavy.  As it is right now, the normal 210HP 5.7 engine has plenty of \npower for a full size Blazer.  Of course, I'm not saying GM shouldn't put the\nLT1 in it :).  It seems like they have a real winner with that engine.  Why\nspend so much more money into getting a 32 valve DOHC V8 when you can take \nan LT1?  It even seems to get pretty good gas MPG (for a 5.7, that is.)\n\n\n[talking about Impala SS]\n\nYeah, it's a flat black, lowered 4 door Caprice riding on 17\" aluminum rims and\nEagle GS-C tires.  The rest of the car is basically a Caprice LTZ (read: \nplush police package) with 300 horsepower.\n\nI heard that Chevy is resurrecting the Monte Carlo but that's going to get \ntheir 3.4 DOHC V6 and not the LT1.\n\n--\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\nAndrew Krenz -- uznerk@mcl.ucsb.edu | krenz@engrhub.ucsb.edu ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\tWhat a load of crap ! The BDs had absolutely NO RIGHT to fire\n\tupon the BATF agents. If they didn't know who they were at\n\tfirst, then they should have surrendered immediately when they\n\tdid realize who they were dealing with. Little groups of loonies\n\tdo not get to decide just what laws they will obey or disobey\n\tor what sorts of warrants are justified. Like the rest of us,\n\tthey get their say at the voting booth and if their personal\n\twants are not backed by the majority of voters, then too bad.\n\tIf they wanted to keep automatic weapons, then they could apply\n\tfor the proper permits. If they had a problem with the warrant\n\tthen they get to argue that in court. In no event do they get\n\tto establish their own little nation inside our own and pretend\n\tthat our laws and law-enforcement personel have no jurisdiction\n\twithin their borders. You live on US territory, you live by\n\tUS laws - period. (unless you are a congressman)\n\n\tSure, the situation was handled badly by both the BATF and\n\tthe FBI. It would have been all so easy to detain Koresh and\n\this core members while they were out in the streets of Waco.\n\tThe BATF, threatened with budget cuts, was trying for a\n\tpropaganda coup ... and dragging the press along for the big\n\tcommando-style assault is proof of that. They should be\n\troasted for both their imcompetance and their mindset. On the\n\tother hand, they DID have the legal right to do what they did.\n\tOnce the attack was begun, they should have pressed on and\n\tfinished it rather than let an interminable situation like that\n\ttake root. ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nIf you put another computer on the port instead of the key, you can hack \nthem by reading what happens. So I've been told, I've never seen this done \nbut I think it's possible. You'd need some hardware knowledge and some \nsoftware to read the port!\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nGuido Klemans\n\nInternet: rcstage1@urc.tue.nl                  valid until 16 may 1993\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n'Listen very carefully, I will say this only once.'  Michelle of the resitance\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I get the picture, I just find it humorous that Running Windows 3.1 apps ( 3.0 for 2.0 ) \nis what makes os\/2 more credible...","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n#@$#%$!!  I *have* a copy of Allen, and it never occurred to me to look\nin there...  I must be getting old...  I'll look it up when I get home.\nThanks.\n\n\nI'd remembered a rather higher number, but that may have been for the\nlunar nearside, where the Earth is a significant heat source.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I>From: ccastco@prism.gatech.EDU (Costas Malamas)\nssupports pkzip 2.04.  It does NOT require pkz\/unzip in order to work, and \nccosts only $10 to register.\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
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{"text":"\n[much BS deleted for brevity]\n\n\nIt certainly smacks of that! Remember the \"POLL\" that you quoted saying that\nyou had seen a 95% of users being satisfied with DOS 6.0? Care to recall how\nunbiased the sample set was? That post sure looked like FUD....and coming\nfrom a microsoftie .... well, it sure seemed like something was not on level.\n\nAdvocacy is GOOD - but spreading FUD to advocate your favorite OS is very \nunethical - especially when you have a vested interest in the success of that\nOS.\n\n\nThat is because their actions seem to invite this opinion - never seen more \ndefensive people in my life. Moreover, many of their posts seem to encourage\nthis too, IMHO.\n\nSeriously speaking, it is a shame that MS techie employees get the heat for\nMS's actions - most of which are perpetrated by the Management and marketing.\nI am sure that they ARE very talented etc ... I have not doubts about their \nabilities, just about the ethics of their marketing practices.\n\nDivya\n-- \nDivya","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nexport.lcs.mit.edu:\/contrib\/R5.SunOS5.patch.tar.Z\n\nGet Xsun.multi-screen.tar.Z while you're at it.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"It seems that there are more and more \"bands\" available for\npolice radar each month.  I have recently purchased (within\nthe last 8 months) the BEL 966STW.  While it is not a perfect\ndetector by any means, it does do the job fairly well.  \n\nNow, however, I pick up a car magazine at the airport and\nread about this Super Ka Wideband which is a superset of\nthe Ka Wideband that this latest generation of detectors\nwas touted as covering.  \n\nSo now BEL has a NEW series of detectors out that cover all\nthe usual bands (X, K, Ka photo, Ka wideband) as well as the\nnew Super Ka wideband.  \n\nJust as there comes a point of diminishing returns when chasing\nincreased PC computing power with faster and faster CPUs (for\nthe average home consumer, at least), it seems that there is\nnow the same concern with radar detectors.  Does it make sense\nto upgrade just 8 months after purchasing my \"new\" detector?\nIs Valentine upgrading their equipment?  If so, it might be \nworth it for me to upgrade to the Valentine.  I was in the \nmarket for a Valentine when I purchased the BEL but the\n3-4 month waiting time was just too much for me since I had\ninadequate protection with my Passport.  Life was much simpler\nwhen there was just X and K band and Escort has the best\nequipment on the market and there was no need to continuously\nshop for a new detector.  I hope that the flood of new radar \nbands ceases with this new Super Wideband business.\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nIt is easy for Sen. Biden to say that when there are no US troops in\nZepa or Srebinica or Sarejevo...\n\nThe existing UN policy may certaining be wrong, but the US wants\nto dictate policy, and make Europe responsible for the consequences\nof that policy...\n\n...Bosnia is a big enough problem for the US to preach about what\nother countries should be doing with their forces...but its forces\nare safely tucked away at home in the US.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I am trying to define my own class derived from the Object class so\nthat I may insert them into a HashTable (a class provided by the\nContainer class library).\n\nI have defined all of the pure virtual functions of Object, but I\nstill get an error when I attempt to allocate a HashEntry object:\n\n  Cannot create instance of abstract class HashEntry\n\nHas anyone derived from class Object before?  What have I left out?\nHere are the virtual functions that I defined from Object:\n\nvirtual classType      isA()   const { return hashEntryClass; }\nvirtual Pchar          nameOf()const { return \"HashEntry\"; }\n\nvirtual hashValueType hashValue() const { return hashValue(hWindow); }\n\/\/ Note: hWindow is defined in HashEntry\n\nvirtual int            isEqual (const Object _FAR &obj) const\n{ return this == &(HashEntry&) obj; }\n\nvirtual void           printOn( Rostream os) const\n{\n os << \"[ HWindow is \" << (void _FAR *) hWindow << \" ]\\n\"; \n}\n--","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"There is a bancrupcy sale coming up soon, and I wonder if anyone\nknow about these printers: Olivetti PG-306, Canon LBp-8R, \nNec silentwriter 2 S60, Kyocera Laser F3000.\nWhich of the above, if any, has Postscript, and an appletalk interface builtin.\nPlease reply by E-mail.\t\n-- \n-------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTommy Nordgren                     \"What is a woman that you forsake her\nRoyal Institute of Technology       and the hearth fire,\nStockholm                           and the home acre,\nf85-tno@nada.kth.se                 to go with the old grey widow maker.\"","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nWhat say you and Nick go somewhere else with this shool yard crap.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nEarly in Church history, the catechumens were dismissed prior to the celebration \nof the Eucharist.  It WAS secret, giving rise to the rumors that Christians\nwere cannibals and all sorts of perverse claims.  The actions were considered\ntoo holy to be observed by non-Christians, as well as potentially dangerous\nfor the individual Christian who might be identified.\n\nLarry Overacker (llo@shell.com)\n-- ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I have an Ethernet card that i took out off an old LC. The card\n\tis manufactured by Asante. On it i can read:\n\t\"Asante Tech, inc. Copyright 1991. MACCON + LC REV.B\".\n\tThe card has an fpu socket on it. It provides thin Ethernet connector\n\tand there's another connector on it which resembels to phone connectors.\n\n\tMy questions are:\n\t- Will this card work on any other model than LC-serie ?, given that\n\tit's a PDS card, will it work with the IIsi PDS slot ?. I think there\n\tmay be a probleme because the LC has 16 bit wide slots.\n\n\t- What's that other conncetor on the card ?.\n\n\t_ Is anyone interested in it ?. I can ship it to any CEE country.\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"no \n\nI'd recommend reading _Mormonism and Early Christianity_ by Hugh Nibley,  \nparticularly the articles on Christ's forty-day (post-resurrection) mission,  \nbaptism for the dead, early Christian prayer circles, and temples (2 articles).  \n..bruce..\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nBruce F. Webster             | A religion that does not require the sacrifice\nCTO, Pages Software Inc      | of all things never has power sufficient to\nbwebster@pages.com           | produce the faith necessary unto life and\n#import <pages\/disclaimer.h> | salvation.  -- Joseph Smith","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nMinor point:  Shea Stadium was designed as a multi-purpose stadium but\nnot with the Jets in mind as the tennant.  The New York Football Giants\nhad moved to Yankee Stadium (from the Polo Grounds) in 1958 and was\nhaving problem with stadium management (the City did not own Yankee\nStadium until 1972).  The idea was to get the Giants to move into Shea.\nWhen a deal was worked out between the Giants and the Yankees the\nnew AFL franchise, the New York Titans, approached the City about using\nthe new stadium.  The Titans were playing in Downing Stadium (where the\nCosmos played soccer in the 70s).  Because Shea Stadium was tied into\nthe World's Fair anyway, the city thought it would be a novel idea to\npromote the new franchise and the World's Fair (like they were doing\nwith the Mets).  So the deal was worked out.\n\n\nI'm under the impression that when Murph says it, he means it!  As a\nregular goer to Shea, it is not a bad place since they've cleaned and\nrenovated the place.  Remember, this is its 30th Year!","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nDiplomatic :-)\n\nI realize I'm fighting Occam's razor in this argument, so I'll try to\nexplain why I feel a mind is necessary. \n\nFirstly, I'm not impressed with the ability of algorithms. They're\ngreat at solving problems once the method has been worked out, but not\nat working out the method itself.\n\nAs a specific example, I like to solve numerical crosswords (not the\nsimple do-the-sums-and-insert-the-answers type, the hard ones.) To do\nthese with any efficiency, you need to figure out a variety of tricks.\nNow, I know that you can program a computer to do these puzzles, but\nin doing so you have to work out the tricks _yourself_, and program\nthem into the computer. You can, of course, 'obfuscate' the trick, and\nwrite the program so that it is uncovered, but as far as I can see,\nthe trick still has to be there in some form to be discovered. Does\nthis mean that all the ideas we will ever have are already\npre-programmed into our brains? This is somewhat unlikely, given that\nour brains ultimately are encoded in 46 chromosomes worth of genetic\nmaterial, much of which isn't used.\n\nOne way around this is to bring the environment into the equation, but\n(again, as far as I can see) this still has an air of 'if you see\nobject X, then perform action Y,' and we don't seem to get anywhere.\nThe algorithm has to anticipate what it might see, and what\nconclusions to draw from it's experience.\n\nThe other problem with algorithms is their instability. Not many\nalgorithms survive if you take out a large portion of their code, yet\npeople survive strokes without going completely haywire (there are\nside-effects, but patients still seem remarkably stable.) Also,\nneurons in perfectly healthy people are dying at an alarming rate -\ncan an algorithm survive if I randomly corrupt various bits of it's\ncode?\n\nThe next problem is the sticky question of \"What is colour?\" (replace\n'colour' with the sensation of your choice.) Presumably, the\nmaterialist viewpoint is that it's the product of some kind of\nchemical reaction. The usual products of such a reaction are energy +\ndifferent chemicals. Is colour a mixture of these? If this is so, a\ncomputer won't see colour, because the chemistry is different. Does an\nalgorithm that sees colour have a selective advantage over an\nequivalent that doesn't? It shouldn't, because the outputs of each\nalgorithm ought to be the same in equivalent circumstances. So why do\nwe see colour?\n\n\n\nA bit of idle speculation...\n\nIf I remember correctly, quantum mechanics consists of a wavefunction,\nwith two processes acting on it. The first process has been called\n'Unitary Evolution' (or 'U'), is governed by Schroedinger's equation\nand is well known. The second process, called various things such as\n'collapse of the wavefunction' or 'state vector reduction' (or 'R'),\nand is more mysterious. It is usually said to occur when a\n'measurement' takes place, although nobody seems to know precisely\nwhen that occurs. When it does occur, the effect of R is to abruptly\nchange the wavefunction.\n\nI envisage R as an interaction between the wavefunction and 'something\nelse,' which I shall imaginitively call 'part X.' It seems reasonable\nto assume that _something_ causes R, although that something might be\nthe wavefunction itself (in which case, part X is simply the\nwavefunction. Note, though, that we'd need more than U to explain R.)\n\nAnyway, I'm speculating that minds would be in part X. There seems to\nbe some link between consciousness and R, in that we never see linear\nsuperpositions of anything, although there are alternative\nexplainations for this. I've no idea how a brain is supposed to access\npart X, but since this is only speculation, that won't matter too\nmuch :-) My main point is that there might be a place for minds in\nphysics.\n\nI'll go back to my nice padded cell now, if that's OK with you :-)\n\n\n-- \n------------------------------------------------------------------------\nKevin Anthoney                                         kax@cs.nott.ac.uk\n            Don't believe anything you read in .sig files.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\tThen what is a \"Flat-\" engine???\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Has anybody seen empty Everex's being sold ?\nI want the cube. Not the computer inards.\nWill it take standard AT-size motherboards ?\n\nThanks. e-mail please.\n\n-- ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\tAhh Broncos.  Well personally, I have a '78.  The blue book is just\na hair over 3 grand.  I bought it for 2500 and then bought new tires 650\nfront end rebuild 350, carb rebuild 130.  Then i did the unthinkable\nand blew the engine (not bronco specific, unmaintained engine with 168,000)\n2400 more bucks there, now it is in nice condition, well after new seats out\nof a t-bird, radio, 2 amps, speakers, alarm, well the radio and amps were \nfree and i bought the speakers used for 40 bucks, and the other speakers\ni took out of my old jeep (Sell a Jeep for a bronco you might ask,\nbut it was a Wagoneer).  Its a lovely specimen, solid front and rear\naxels, ford 9\" and a dana 44 up front.  Watch the rear axel wrap, i \nbusted off my u-bolts ONCE, i added traction shocks after that and \nhaven't had a problem since.  Also the bottom of the doors tend to \nrot, bottom of the tailgates likes to rust right up to the new ones\nthat might be in your budget.  The post 80 broncos have that sickly\nTTB front end and little stamped and folded steel radius arms were\nas the 78-79 have nice big cast iron longer radius arms(ie more prspective\nwheel travel).  The only rust i have is on my doors and a few\ndings in the sheet metal.  I don't know when the removeable tops were\ndiscontinued but they are fun.  I just ordered a full convertable top\nfor 400$ for mine(credit card).  Don't ever break the window if you\nhave the double laminated bronzed privacy glass in your cap it is over\n400 bucks to replace.  My bronco also does pretty good offroad,\ni haven't bottomed out my suspension, YET, and have crossed over\n3 foot deep of water with no problems, handles rocks like a charm too.\nOne problem is it is WIDE and you sometimes can't follow a CJ or a\nToyota, between two rocks or trees, and your grandmother will have\na hard time getting up into it.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"One point not yet mentioned:\n\tHands on the driver's shoulders are a definite no-no.  It feels\ngood for the passenger to stretch her arms, and a shoulder massage feels\ngood too, but the shoulders are connected to the arms, and the arms to\nthe handlebars...  Should you hit the brakes, the pressure on the shoulders\ncan make steering interesting.\n\nBundle her up if it's cold, make sure she has good gear (say it again),\nan pat her thigh to let her know all is great.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nThat would be Clint Malarchuck.  It was speculated at the time, that\nthe injury was so serious that had he been playing at the other end\nof the rink at the time (he was playing in the same end as the\nambulence is parked), he never would have survived.  Ditto, if he\nwere playing anything other than a league with an ambulance on \nstandby.\n\nIf you've seen video tape of the incident, it is amazing how much blood\nthere was.  It was literally spurting out all over the ice, as Clint\ngrabbed his neck and watched the puddle in horror.  \n\nAmazingly enough, he made a full recovery, and played again in the\nNHL.  He was getting on in years at the time of the incident anyway,\nand didn't play for too long afterward.  Some people speculated that\nhe just couldn't get himself back together after the incident, and I\nthink he had a bunch of other personal problems dogging him afterward.\nHe did eventually get back to form, and played another year or so after\nthat, and then I believe he retired.\n\nAnyone else?\n\n-- \n\n\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nCarol Boudreau            #44                         a.k.a. The X-Terminator\nboudreau@athena.mit.edu                           Go Flames!  Rock the Kings!","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nYou don't *need* to, but it's desirable.  HST, like all satellites in\nlow Earth orbit, is gradually losing altitude due to air drag.  It was\ndeployed in the highest orbit the shuttle could reach, for that reason.\nIt needs occasional reboosting or it will eventually reenter.  (It has\nno propulsion system of its own.)  This is an excellent opportunity,\ngiven that there may not be another visit for several years.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI once wrote such a program (in BBC basic...) It was very crude, and took\naround 5 seconds to do an exhaustive search (with a small amount of \nintelligence), and told you the best combination >Rq and the best below Rq.\n\nIf you want to write one, just store the prefered values in an array, and\nthen search the solution space using three nested loops. I'm sure you\ncould knock this up in an hour.\n\nChristopher","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nHeck, some of his ships were loaners. One was owned by a Basque...\n(you know, one of those groups that probably crossed the Atlantic\n_before_ Columbus came along).\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nBack in high school I worked as a lab assistant for a bunch of experimental\npsychologists at Bell Labs.  When they were doing visual perception and\nmemory experiments, they used vector-type displays, with 1-millisecond\nrefresh rates common.\n\nSo your case of 1\/200th sec is quite practical, and the experimenters were\nprobably sure that it was 5 milliseconds, not 4 or 6 either.\n\n\nSteve","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nTaking this at face value (though it seems quite dissonant with much else\nthat has been published here about brute force DES cracking, unless Russell\nwas lucky with respect to the key), I'd be very interested in whether the\nprogram Russell used is available? In whether he used a cleartext\nrecognition algorithm in the program or whether he had to examine each\ndecryption by hand? In whether he used a known plaintext attack?\n\nHe probably should also tell us, given his address, what machine he used--a\ndesktop, workstation, or super-computer.\n\nDepending on his answer, this could be an appalling development calling into\nquestion both DES and RSA\/DES. Dunno about RSA\/IDEA.\n\nIf any bright programmer with a little idle machine time can crack a single\nDES message in a couple of days (assuming no tricks that are\nmessage-specific), then here's my Clipper key, NSA; give me the chip at\nonce.  :-)\n\nDavid","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nOOOoooh, complaining about my spelling.\n\nI'm _so_ hurt.\n\nNo I'm not a student.  I'm an alumnus.  And an employee.\n\nSo I can get my money _back_ from these grubs.\n\nBNR, huh?  I hope you're not a permanent,\nthey'd be wasting benefits on you.\n\npthptptphhph!\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one\nanother with all wisdom, and as you sing psalms, hymns and spiritual songs with\ngratitude in your hearts to God. \nColossians 3:16\n\nA reminder: These verses are from the New International Version. As with any\ntranslation, faithfulness to the original Hebrew and Greek may vary from time\nto time. If a verse sounds a little off occasionally, compare it with another\ntranslation or with the original texts, if you are able to do so.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I HAVE A TANDY WP2 WORDPROCESSOR FOR SALE.  IT HAS 148K (DUE TO A 128K\nDUE TO A RAM DISK), A WORD PROCESSING PROGRAM, A 200,000 WORD SPELL\nCHECKER, A THESAURUS, IS 1\" THIN AND WEIGHS 3 LBS.  IT TAKES 4 AA\nBATTERIES (ALKALINE OR NI-CAD RECHARGABLE) OR USES AN AC ADAPTER (IN-\nCLUDED).\n\nIT IS A FULL SIZE QWERTY KEYBOARD WITH AN 80 CHARACTER BY 8 LINE LCD\nSCREEN.  IT ALSO HAS A TELCOM PROGRAM WHICH ALLOWS TRANSFERS OF FILES\nTO AN IBMPC WITH A NULL MODEM CABLE AND SHAREWARE TRANSFER PROGRAM\n(ALSO INCLUDED).  IT HAS A 9 PIN SERIAL PORT, A PARALLEL PRINTER PORT,\nAND A TAPE RECORDER FILE SAVE PORT.  THE TELCOM PROGRAM CAN ALSO BE\nWITH A MODEM (NOT INCLUDED) TO ACCESS SERVICES LIKE COMPUSERVE.\n\nTHIS IS GREAT UNIT FOR A HIGH SCHOOL OR COLLEGE STUDENT TO WRITE PAPERS\nAND REPORTS ON.  IT COMES WITH THE ORIGINAL MANUAL.  YOU GET ALL\nTHE ABOVE FOR $125.00 PLUS SHIPPING AND COD CHARGES.\n\nSEND E-MAIL INQUIRIES TO:\n\n\n\n______________________________________________________________________","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nNo.  I recently bought an LC II with a 14\" monitor.  The monitor comes with\nthe type of power cable that plugs into the switched outlet on the back of\nmost larger Macs.  Since the LC II doesn't have one of these outlets, there\nwas an extra standard power cable included with the computer for use with\nthe monitor.  But it was in the computer box, not the monitor box.  It's\nnot as if the cables are particularly expensive, though.  $10-$15 at the\nmost.\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nHello. I am the David Sternlight keeper of the FAQ. Unfortuantely I cannot\nfind it at the present time.\n\nFrom the original FAQ:\n\nQuestion: Does anyone take David Sternlight serious?\n\nFact: No one takes David Sternlight serious. They review his opinions and\nin most cases immediately discard them or jerk them over to\nalt.fan.david-sternlight which actually should be alt.flame.david-sternlight.\n\nA photograph of David Sternlight for the curious:\n\n\n\n                         |\\\/\\\/\\\/\\|\n                         |       |\n                         |  (o)(o)\n                         C       _)           David Sternlight\n                          |  ,___|            Net.Police\n                          |    \/              a.k.a. PROUD\n              _0--------\/\\\/----\\\/\\-------0_   DICK OF\n             \/         \/0 \\----\/ 0\\        \\  THE INTERNET\n            \/     |      \\ \\||\/ \/     |     \\\n           \/     \/|DAVID    ||  POLICE|\\     \\\n         _\/_____\/ ||     ]  ||  | [#] || \\_____\\_\n        |_______\/ |\\____\/   ||  \\__*_\/| \\_______|                    \n\n\nQuestion: Why does David continue to relate mis statements regarding\nencryption and other topics?\n\nFact: David Sternlight has a chemical imbalance of the right side of his\nbrain.\n\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":": >\n: >I just wanted to let you know that there are a few honest and good people out\n: >there (even outside of Iowa).  I'm sorry if anyone thinks that I am wasting\n: >space, but I thought you might want some relief from the \"So-and-so is a thief\"\n: >posts.  Not that I think we shouldn't hear about the bad deals, but it would be\n: >nice to hear some good news once in a while.\n: \n: This was nice of Kevin to post this.  But just so no one is misled, the\n: VAST MAJORITY of usenetters are \"honest and good people.\"  In fact, in\n: the latest study, 99.7% of all net.deals went off smoothly without a\n: hitch.  It's just that the few bad ones are what get all the publicity.\n\n      Agreed.  I have yet to run into a problem in deals over the net\n      and I have bought things from CDs (plenty!) to a full computer.\n      The only small problem that I have had was with UPS rather than\n      the seller.  Besides, complaints are always what get the\n      publicity....when something goes wrong, people complain.  Rarely\n      have I seen posts stating how well a deal went through.  I guess\n      Kevin is practically a first!","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"In the following report: _Turkey Eyes Regional Role_ ANKARA, Turkey (AP)\nApril 27, 1993, we find in the last paragraph:\n\n[Turanist] Although Premier Suleyman Demirel criticized Ozal's often\n[Turanist] brash calls for more Turkish influence, he also has spoken\n[Turanist] of a swath of Turkic peoples \"stretching from the Adriatic\n[Turanist] Sea to the Great Wall of China.\"\n\nWho does Demirel think he is fooling? It seems at both ends of his envisioned \npan-Turkic Empire -- the Balkans and the Caucasus -- Turkey's fascist boasts\nare being pre-empted.\n\nI would suggest Turkey let the world feel some of their \"Grey Wolf Teeth\", and\nattempt to stretch from the Adriatic to China! Turkey will have cried \"wolf\"\njust once too much! \n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"When do the new M.benz \"C\" class cars come out?\nThe new nomenclature that MB has adopted will it only apply to the \"c\"\nclass cars or will it also apply to the current \"s\" class cars.\nDoes any one know what will replace the current 300 class since the \"c\"\nclass will be smaller and more in line with the current 190. \nAnother question, Is BMW realising a new body style on the current 7\nseries and 5 series. They seem to be a bit dated to me.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\tMost bikes I've seen that use a dipstick rather than a\n\tsight glass are designed to check it without screwing it\n\tin.  In the manual for my CBR900RR, they specifically\n\tstate it should be done this way.\n\n\t\t\t\tMichael\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"-=> Quoting Bill Gregory to All <=-\n\n \n\n BG> hey I saw that game!  I thought the Sabres looked better that you\n BG> described. It's Boston that looked weak and unsure of themselves.  Even\n BG> if (big if) they (bruins) win the third game what's that going to\n BG> prove?  They be lucky!\n\n\n     Well now the Sabres are up 3 - 0 in games, and its to\n     bad that Boston isn't putting up more of a fight as\n     that could have been the best series of the playoffs,\n     I think Boston will come out smoking in the next\n     two games and that Buffalo will end the series in\n     game six back in Buffalo, and say, how about those Islanders?\n     they are up 2 - 1 on the Capitals and will probably\n     win the series, only to be clobbered by the Penguins who\n     should eliminate the Devils in the next game.\n     I cannot see (i'm sad to say) anyone beating the \n     Penguins this year (again) and they will take cup # 3 \n     I'm afraid.  well talk to ya later.\n\n\nSteve\n\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
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{"text":"\n\nLocal LA stores have already reduced prices by $200 on most Duo\nconfigurations\n(although Apple dropped the list price by $310).","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nThere are some tricks to installing ATM to windows... install them first\nto dos, then run the ATM control panel to get them into windows.\n\nThe best reason for ATM is that Adobe IS the standard.  Truetype is a\nfailed MS venture to undercut Adobe when Adobe was being nasty about\nkeeping their formats proprietary.  Just about any service bureau or print\nshop will smirk and send you on your way if you bring a TrueType document\nto them for high resolution printing or ripping.\n\nAlthough there are lots of pretty TT fonts floating around, they are really\nfor dot matrix or your own lazer printer.\nHowever, you can convert your TT fonts with Fontmonger or some similar program\nto ATM fonts for high end stuff.\n\nIf you are using dot matrix for all your printing, you may have wasted\nyour money!","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nThe patches for xv.h need to use ``#ifdef SVR4'' rather than the\noverly complex ``#if defined(sun) && defined(SYSV)'' in order to\ngenerically compile XV on i386SVR4Architecture.  Also, rand and srand\ndon't work very well--use lrand48 and seed48 to get better results.\nOtherwise, xv-3.00 compiles just fine on my Esix System V 4.0.4 box\nwith XFree86 and gcc-2.3.3.  I just uncommented the gcc definition in\nthe Makefile, added -L\/usr\/X386\/lib -I\/usr\/X386\/include to the COPTS\nline and modified LIBS to include -lsocket -lnsl.  Really John, if you\njust use the Imakefile things like this don't even have to get\nmentioned...\n\n*** 1.1\t1993\/04\/28 08:33:13\n--- xv.h\t1993\/04\/28 17:47:38\n***************\n*** 284,292 ****\n--- 284,298 ----\n  \n  \n  \/* signal macros *\/\n+ #ifdef SVR4\n+ #define HOLD_SIG         sighold(SIGALRM)\n+ #define RELEASE_SIG      sigrelse(SIGALRM)\n+ #define PAUSE_SIG        sigpause(SIGALRM)\n+ #else\n  #define HOLD_SIG         sigblock(sigmask(SIGALRM))\n  #define RELEASE_SIG      sigblock(0)\n  #define PAUSE_SIG        sigpause(0)\n+ #endif\n  ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nThis was a recent discussion on rec.martial-arts.  Humans definitely don't\nhave all the advantages. Dogs are deceptively strong and often bred for\nfighting of one sort or another.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n+In article <1993May7.211312.10403@bert.eecs.uic.edu>, rsc@siggraph.org\n+|>           Computer Graphics experimental special online issue\n+|>                                May 1993\n+|> \n+|> The May 1993 experimental special issue of Computer Graphics is online \n+|> as a set of files on the  siggraph.org  system in the directory \n+|>      ~ftp\/publications\/May_93_online \n+|> This is made available to the computer graphics community by ACM \n+|> SIGGRAPH.  The general theme of this issue is electronic documents, and \n+|> the Table of Contents in the AboutThisIssue files will tell you more \n+|> about this publication and its contents.\n+\n+        I ftp'd here, but found nothing.  Has this been removed?\n\nNope, it's still there:","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n       It's possible to make boards in other colors, and I have an ad\nfor laser light-show equipment which offers the circuit boards in your\nchoice of Day-Glo (tm) colors.\n\n       The usual light green color is just the natural color of Fiberglas.\nThe dark green or blue is the solder mask layer, and I suspect that color\nis a dye.  ","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I'm going to be mixing together here stuff from two of Ted Frank's\narticles, <1993Apr15.143623.25813@midway.uchicago.edu> (which was a\nresponse to me) and <1993Apr16.011455.20518@midway.uchicago.edu> (a\nresponse to Tim Smith)...\n\n\nEminent domain is a state-mandated transaction in which one party is\nrequired to sell a piece of property which it owns to another party,\nregardless of whether the first party wishes to sell at all, at a price\nwhich is set by the state.  I fail to see how this doctrine can be found\nin tort, bankruptcy or contract cases in general.  Well, okay, sort of\nin bankruptcy...\n\n*  *  *  *  *\n\n\nBang.  Here's one of the places where we widely diverge.  You believe\nthat the courts, in deciding a civil dispute between two parties, should\nconsider as a factor -- perhaps as an overriding factor -- issues which\nI believe the court should ignore as being irrelevant to the dispute.\n_Boomer v.  Atlantic Cement Co._ was an action brought by one party,\nBoomer, whose property rights were being violated on an ongoing basis by\nanother party, the Atlantic Cement Company.  The facts supported\nBoomer's contention that Atlantic Cement was wrongfully damaging his\nproperty, and Boomer asked the court to order Atlantic Cement to stop\ndoing so.  End of story.  There was no reason for the court to consider\nsuch issues as what a capitalistic society would want Atlantic Cement to\ndo or whether the cost of compliance was disproportionate to the damage\nfaced by the plaintiffs.  Those issues had nothing to do with the case\nbefore the court.\n\n\nI'd be up in arms?  Why do you assume that?  Quite the contrary, I'd\nprobably support the action, since it would be based on the same general\ndoctrine as the decision that I believe would have been correct in\n_Boomer_: the idea that people's property rights should not be violated\nfor reasons of economic efficiency.  In _Boomer_ it was Boomer's\nproperty rights which I believe the court should have protected; in the\nhypothetical EPA ruling you've presented, it's the American people's\ncollective property rights in a healthy physical environment.  What\ngood is cost-benefit ratio of 15+:1 if you wind up with cement dust in\nyour air?\n\n*  *  *  *  *\n\n\nYes.  So what?  The courts are supposed to protect the specific rights\nof individuals, not the general interests of some nebulous society.  If\nsociety can have its cement plant without violating anyone's rights,\nfine.  Otherwise society will somehow have to limp along with one less\ncement plant.  (See, Ted, I really _am_ a libertarian after all! :-)\n\n\n\"One wants the legal regime to approximate the end result to begin with,\nin order to minimize the transactions costs.\"???  Which \"one\" are you\nspeaking of?  _I_ want the legal regime to protect people's rights.\nBesides, Coase's Theorem only has real application in the never-never\nland of perfectly rational actors.  In the real world (1) some people\nare going to be stubborn, ornery, spiteful or otherwise \"irrational\"\nfrom a economic point of view and (2) the purpose of the courts is to\nprotect their right to be so.  I don't care if you can show me logically\nthat your cattle are only doing $100 of damage to my property per head,\nso I should rationally sell you grazing rights to my land for, say, $150\nper head -- I still retain the right to tell you that I just plain don't\nwant any damned cattle on my property, not at any price.\n\n*   *   *   *   *\n\n\nLast question first: For the same reason as in contract law -- because\nto do so would come dangerously close to treading on the Thirteenth\nAmendment.\n\nAs to your \"Then, by your argument, no tort plaintiff is ever made\nwhole, because the award of damages in involuntary\" claim, you're at\nleast partially right.  Faced with situations in which the wrong has\nalready been done and the damage to the victim has already taken place\nand cannot be reversed or undone, courts will try to set an equitable\nprice tag on the loss suffered by the victim and require the wrongdoer\nto pay this price (rather than an inflated price which the victim might\nprefer).  In these cases, the \"sale\" has already taken place and is\nirreversible, and the court simply tries to ensure that a fair price is\npaid, under the doctrines that (a) only in certain circumstances should\neven a civil wrongdoer be forced to pay punitive or excessive prices and\n(b) even a genuine victim should not profit in an unjustified or\ninequitable manner from his victimhood.  Both of these doctrines may be\nworth discussing or debating elsewhere, but neither is relevant to cases\nlike _Boomer_ in which the wrongful act and the loss stemming from it\nare still in the future and _can_ be reversed\/undone (i.e., prevented\nfrom happening at all) by order of the court.\n\nIn these types of cases, all the court has to do is require that the\npotential victim's property rights are protected until and unless he\nagrees to sell them at a mutually-acceptable price.  There is no need\nfor the court to guess at the equitable value of the loss and force both\nsides to accept its finding.  It can leave that operation up to the\nparties themselves.\n\n\nIn cases like _Boomer_, they're simply a cost of doing business.  The\nfact that the proprietors of the Atlantic Cement Co. got themselves into\na position in which they found themselves over this barrel is simply a\nresult of their own poor business decision to start up a cement plant\nwithout _first_ trying to negotiate with Boomer and everyone else whose\nproperty rights they'd be violating via the operation of their plant.\nThere's nothing punitive or unjust about it.\n\n\nAnybody who wants to commit a wrongful act in the future should be\nrequired to buy the right to do so from the victim, in advance.  And the\nseller should be allowed to set his or her price for the privilege.  No\ninjustice, no punitive damages.\n\n*   *   *   *   *\n\n\nDoesn't sound very much like a libertarian to me.  Libertarians tend to\nbelieve in the rights of individual people, not societies.\n\n*   *   *   *   *\n\n\nAs stated above, the tort was _ongoing_.  Atlantic Cement wanted to be\nable to _continue_ to violate Boomer's rights.  While the court may have\nbeen justified in setting an equitable price tag on the damage already\ncommitted, it had no reason and no need to set a price tag on the\n_future_ violations of Boomer's rights and to then force Boomer to sell\nat that price.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nFrom: thomas@sunshine.Kodak.COM (Thomas Kinsman)\nNewsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc,alt.binaries.pictures.utilities\nSubject: DIB\/BMP CREATION GUIDE, as requested.\nKeywords: DIB BMP Bitmaps File Formats\nMessage-ID: <1992Dec23.214432.18764@kodak.kodak.com>\nDate: 23 Dec 92 21:44:32 GMT\nSender: news@kodak.kodak.com\nOrganization: Precambiran Electronics, Rochester, NY\nLines: 484\nXref: cradle.titech comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc:3609\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\t\t\t   GUIDE TO CREATION OF DIB IMAGES\n\n\n\t\t\t\t  Thomas B. Kinsman\n\n\t\t\t       Precambrian Electronics\n\t\t\t\t   29 Falstaff Rd.\n\t\t\t\t Rochester, NY 14609\n\t\t\t\t  thomask@kodak.com\n\t\t\t       Copyright March 15, 1991\n\n\n\n\t\t\t\t\t ABSTRACT\n\n\t      The format of images created for use by  MS  Windows  3.0\/3.1\n\t      applications  is\tdocumented  in\tthe MS Windows Programmer's\n\t      Reference guide.\tThis guide is intended as a  clearify  some\n\t      wording\tof   the   specifications,   and  to  put  forth  a\n\t      recommendation among the various alternatives.\n\n\t      Please send updates\/corrections\/suggestions and revisions\t to\n\t      me.   Please  thank  me  for  writing  this on my own time by\n\t      keeping my name  with  the  document.   Thank  you  for  your\n\t      respect.\n\n\t      This document Copyright, 1991, by Thomas B. Kinsman.\n\t      If  desired,  a  PostScript  version  of\tthis  document\t is\n\t      available.\n\n\t      This information is free.\t You get more than what you pay for.\n\t      Don't sue me if I'm wrong.\n\n\n    OVERVIEW\n\n    The DIB image file format is intended to be a \"Device Independent  Bitmap\"\n    file  format.  (What Microsoft means by \"Device Independent\" is unclear to\n    me.) Four pixel resolutions are supported: 1 bit, 4 bit, 8 bit, and 24 bit\n    pixels.\n\n    These images were intended for use on DOS (IBM, or Little-Endian) systems.\n    If\tyou  are  creating them on another architecture you will have to byte-\n    swap all short and long integer values.\n\n    By convention, DIB images end in the extension \".BMP\".   This  is  because\n\n\n\n\t\t\t      March 15, 1991\n\n\n\n\n\n\t\t\t\t    - 2 -\n\n\n    they  are  a  super-set of earlier \"bitmap image files\".  Consequently you\n    will sometimes hear DIB files referred to as \"BMP\" files.\n\n    Since DIB images files are a super-set, there are three \"flavors\"  of  DIB\n    images:\n\t o   DOS DIB images.  These are the recommended\t convention,  and  the\n\t     form  which I will describe how to create.\t They are intended for\n\t     applications running under MS Windows \/3.0 in a DOS environment.\n\t o   OS\/2 DIB images.  My understanding is that these are  the\tflavor\n\t     of DIB images that were used by the Presentation Manager.\n\t o   Old-style Bitmap images.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\t\t\t      March 15, 1991\n\n\n\n\n\n\t\t\t\t    - 3 -\n\n\n    DIFFERENCES BETWEEN FLAVORS\n\n    The DOS DIB images consist of:\n\t 1.  A \"BITMAPFILEHEADER\" file header which identifies the file\t as  a\n\t     DIB  file.\t  This\theader\talso gives the total size of the image\n\t     file, and the offset to the image data.\n\t 2.  A \"BITMAPINFOHEADER\"  image  header  which\t specifies  the\t image\n\t     attributes.\n\t 3.  An optional palette of colors used by the image.  If  it  exists,\n\t     this  may contain 2, 16, or 256 entries.  Each entry is a Windows\n\t     RGBQUAD structure.\n\t 4.  The image data itself.\n\n\n    The OS\/2 DIB images consist of:\n\t 1.  The same \"BITMAPFILEHEADER\" file header which identifies the file\n\t     as\t a  DIB\t file.\t This  header also gives the total size of the\n\t     image file, and the offset to the image data.\n\t 2.  A \"BITMAPCOREHEADER\"  image  header  which\t specifies  the\t image\n\t     attributes.\n\t 3.  An optional palette of colors used by the image.  Again, if  this\n\t     exists  it\t may  contain  2, 16, or 256 entries.  Each entry is a\n\t     Windows RGBTRIPLE structure.\n\t 4.  The image data itself.\n\n\n    The Old Style image bitmap consists of:\n\t 1.  Either a BITMAPINFOHEADER or a  BITMAPCOREHEADER.\t Which\theader\n\t     type is determined by the first long integer (DWORD) value.\n\t 2.  An optional color palette.\t  This\tpalette\t may  be  composed  of\n\t     either   Windows\tRGBQUAD\t  structures  (if  the\theader\twas  a\n\t     BITMAPINFOHEADER) or Windows RGBTRIPLE structures (if the\theader\n\t     was a BITMAPCOREHEADER).\n\t 3.  The image data itself.\n\n\n    CREATING DIB IMAGE FILES.\n\n    Creating a DOS DIB image file consists of several straight forward\tsteps.\n    The headers need to be created and then written to the file.  These header\n    structures are defined in the MS  Windows\/3.0  \"windows.h\"\tinclude\t file.\n    Palette  information  needs\t to  be\t stored for images that are not 24-bit\n    images.  The five general steps are:\n\t 1.  Filling  in  the  BITMAPFILEHEADER\t  and\tthe   BITMAPINFOHEADER\n\t     structures the basic image information.\n\t 2.  If the image is a 1-bit, 4-bit, or an 8-bit image,\t creating  the\n\t     color palette of RGBQUADS.\n\t 3.  Calculating the total file size and putting this  information  in\n\n\n\n\t\t\t      March 15, 1991\n\n\n\n\n\n\t\t\t\t    - 4 -\n\n\n\t     the \"bfSize\" field of the BITMAPFILEHEADER.\n\t 4.  Calculating the offset to the image data from the\tstart  of  the\n\t     file,   and   putting  this  in  the  \"bfOffBits\"\tfield  of  the\n\t     BITMAPFILEHEADER.\n\t 5.  Writing to the file the BITMAPFILEHEADER,\tthe  BITMAPINFOHEADER,\n\t     the color palette, and the image data (in that order).\n\n    The following sections describe structures in terms of MicroSoft  C\t type-\n    defined  keywords.\tThe following table describes these keywords for those\n    not familiar with MicroSoft C.\n\n\t\t     _______________________________________\n\t\t    |\t\t\t\t\t   |\n\t\t    | Type-defined keywords in MicroSoft C.|\n\t\t    |______________________________________|\n\t\t    | typedef |\t meaning\t\t   |\n\t\t    |_________|____________________________|\n\t\t    | BYTE    |\t unsigned character\t   |\n\t\t    | WORD    |\t two byte unsigned integer |\n\t\t    | DWORD   |\t four byte unsigned integer|\n\t\t    |_________|____________________________|\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\t\t\t      March 15, 1991\n\n\n\n\n\n\t\t\t\t    - 5 -\n\n\n    THE BITMAPFILEHEADER\n\n    This structure is defined in \"windows.h\" as:\n\t typedef struct tagBITMAPFILEHEADER {\n\t\t WORD\t bfType;\n\t\t DWORD\t bfSize;\n\t\t WORD\t bfReserved1;\n\t\t WORD\t bfReserved2;\n\t\t DWORD\t bfOffBits;\n\t } BITMAPFILEHEADER;\n\n    The \"bfType\" field is the two ascii characters 'B' and 'M'.\t  This\tserves\n    to\tidentify  the  file  as\t a  DIB\t image file.  On an intel byte ordered\n    machine (IBM or a compatible), this constant can be formed\tin  C  as  the\n    quantity ('M' << 8 | 'B') == 0x4d42 on an intel system.\n\n    The \"bfSize\" field is the total size of the file.  For our\tpurposes  this\n    field  is equal to: the size of the BITMAPFILEHEADER, plus the size of the\n    BITMAPINFOHEADER, plus the number of entries in the\t color\tpalette\t times\n    the\t size  of  a  RGBQUAD, plus the number of bytes of image data.\tIf the\n    image data is being written out in an uncompressed form, this value can be\n    calculated\tahead  of  time.   Otherwise, this field needs to be filled in\n    later.\n\n    Both the \"bfReserved1\" and the \"bfReserved2\"  fields  are  always  set  to\n    zero.\n\n    The \"bfOffBits\" field is set to the offset to the start of the image  data\n    from  the  start  of the file.  For our purposes, this field should be set\n    to:\t the  size  of\tthe   BITMAPFILEHEADER,\t  plus\t the   size   of   the\n    BITMAPINFOHEADER,  plus  the  number of entries in the color palette times\n    the size of a RGBQUAD.  This works out because the image data  is  written\n    write after the color palette if one exists.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\t\t\t      March 15, 1991\n\n\n\n\n\n\t\t\t\t    - 6 -\n\n\n    THE BITMAPINFOHEADER\n\n    This structure is defined in \"windows.h\" as:\n\t typedef struct tagBITMAPINFOHEADER{\n\t\t DWORD\t biSize;\n\t\t DWORD\t biWidth;\n\t\t DWORD\t biHeight;\n\t\t WORD\t biPlanes;\n\t\t WORD\t biBitCount;\n\t\t DWORD\t biCompression;\n\t\t DWORD\t biSizeImage;\n\t\t DWORD\t biXPelsPerMeter;\n\t\t DWORD\t biYPelsPerMeter;\n\t\t DWORD\t biClrUsed;\n\t\t DWORD\t biClrImportant;\n\t } BITMAPINFOHEADER;\n\n    The \"biSize\" field is set to the size of  the  BITMAPINFOHEADER  structure\n    itself.   When  reading  the  image\t file,\tthis  value is what is used to\n    determine  that  the  image\t contains  a  BITMAPINFOHEADER\t and   not   a\n    BITMAPCOREHEADER.\n\n    The \"biWidth\" field is the width of the image in image pixels.\n\n    The \"biHeight\" field is the height of the image in image lines.\n\n    The \"biPlanes\" field should always be set to 1.  This data is written  out\n    as if there was one color plane.\n\n    The \"biBitCount\" field is the bit-depth of the image.  This must be either\n    1, 4, 8, or 24, depending on the bit-depth of the image data.\n\n    The \"biCompression\" field tells how the image data is compressed if it  is\n    compressed.\t   DIB\timages\tsupport\t two  forms  of\t run-length  encoding.\n    However, I have never seen any images which use it, and don't know yet how\n    it works.  Set this field to zero (long zero, or 0L), to indicate that the\n    data is not compressed.\n\n    All subsequent fields of the BITMAPINFOHEADER  structure  may  be  set  to\n    zero.   A  requirement  of\tthe  interpretting software that it be able to\n    compute these fields as necessary from the previous information.\n\n    The field which you might want to explicitly specify might be \"biClrUsed\".\n    For\t 4-bit\tand  8-bit  images  this  field\t indicates that not all of the\n    possible color entries are used and that the  image\t contains  \"biClrUsed\"\n    colors.  If you are using only 32 colors with an 8-bit image, then you may\n    only want to save 32 of the possible 256 palette entries.  Generally,  set\n    this field to zero.\n\n\n\n\t\t\t      March 15, 1991\n\n\n\n\n\n\t\t\t\t    - 7 -\n\n\n    COLOR PALETTES\n\n    Each entry of a  color  palette  is\t a  RGBQUAD  structure.\t  The  RGBQUAD\n    structure is defined in the \"windows.h\" include file as:\n\t typedef struct tagRGBQUAD {\n\t\t BYTE\t rgbBlue;\n\t\t BYTE\t rgbGreen;\n\t\t BYTE\t rgbRed;\n\t\t BYTE\t rgbReserved;\n\t } RGBQUAD;\n    The \"rgbReserved\" field is always zero.  For each color used,  the\tamount\n    of Blue, Green, and Red are filled into the structure and the structure is\n    written to the file.  A value of zero in  the  \"rgbBlue\",  \"rgbGreen\",  or\n    \"rgbRed\"   fields  indicates  that\tthat  particular  component  does  not\n    contribute to the color composition.  A value  of  255  in\tany  of\t these\n    fields  indicates  that  the  component  contributes  fully\t to  the color\n    composition.\n\n\n\n    IMAGE DATA\n\n    There are three surprises about the ordering of image data\tin  DIB\t image\n    file.   The\t creator  of  this  format  was determined to be creative, and\n    certainly was.\n\n    Within the image data, each line written out is padded to  the  next  four\n    byte  quantity.   So,  if  you had an 8-bit image which was only one pixel\n    wide, you still have to write out four bytes for every  image  line.   The\n    number of bytes per line can be calculated as:\n\n\t\t bytes_per_line = (width_in_pix * bit_depth + 31 ) \/ 32 * 4;\n\n\t---or, in terms of the fields of the BITMAPINFOHEADER structure---\n\n\t\t bytes_per_line = (biWidth * biBitCount + 31 ) \/ 32 * 4;\n\n\n    When writing out your image data, you must write it out bottom line first.\n    The\t bottom line of the image as you would look at it on the screen is the\n    first line of image data in the file.\n\n    For 1-bit, 4-bit, and 8-bit images, information is written\tas  you\t would\n    expect.   One  bit\timages\tare  padded  eight pixels to a byte.  Four bit\n    images are padded two pixels to a byte.  Eight bit images are written  one\n    pixel per byte.  Twenty-four bit images are written three bytes per pixel.\n    However, for 24-bit images the information must  be\t written  out  in  the\n    order  blue,  green, red.  While most image file formats write data out in\n\n\n\n\t\t\t      March 15, 1991\n\n\n\n\n\n\t\t\t\t    - 8 -\n\n\n    an \"RGB\" ordering, a DIB image file\t writes\t the  data  out\t in  an\t \"BGR\"\n    ordering.\n\n    SUMMARY\n\n    This  should  provide  enough  information\tto  create  DIB\t images\t  from\n    applications  such\tas  scanners  or for image exporting routines.\tIf you\n    find out any more about DIB images, please pass the information on\tto  me\n    so that I can modify this document accordingly.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\t\t\t      March 15, 1991\n\n\n--\n    Thomas B. Kinsman, Rochester, NY, thomas@acadia.kodak.com\n    \"Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty.\"\t-anon\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nI don't have any evidence against water from Lourdes curing MS --\nI'm sure there is anecdotal evidence that it does.  Do you really think\nthat in the absence of a double-blind study I should be indifferent\nto the hypothesis that water from Lourdes cures MS?\n\nFor what it's worth, I know of only one double blind study of Nystatin\nfor \"candida hypersensitivity syndrome.\"  It was published in the \nNew England Journal (I think 1990) and showed no benefit on systemic\nsymptoms (though I think it reduced vaginal yeast infections, not\nsurprisingly).  As I recall, the yeast crowd had some major objections\nto the study, though I don't remember what they were.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Can some kind soul provide me with information on LDRs that contain an\nonboard light-source, in a totally integrated and light-shielded unit.\n\nI have seen a VTL5C LDR in some schematics.  So who are the manufacturers\nof these devices, and what are the different types.\n\nThanks very much in advance,\nJim.\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n  Jim Trivellas.\n  Department of Electrical & Electronic Engineering.\n  School of Information Technology & Electrical Engineering.\n  The University of Melbourne, Parkville 3052, Victoria, Australia.\n                  |\n                  |\n                  |\t\t\tTelephone: +61 3 3447976\n                *****\t\t\tEmail: jimt@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au\n     _______*************_______\n   _|_____*****************_____|_\n _|_|_____*****************_____|_|_\t\"Hello, is that the front desk?\"\n   |          The  SPID          |","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\tI'm not sure how far standardisation went, but on two of my bikes (the\nGS550B and, I think, the GT380M) I was able to pop a Cibie' insert directly\ninto the original housing (held in by those roughly W-shaped springs).  The\ninserts used 55\/60W halogen bulbs, and were great, although Mr Bill later\nindicates that this may be too much of a drain on your charging system.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nAssuming the fire was caused by lanterns and stoves being knocked about\nby the tanks pushing on the walls (would shake a building pretty good)\nperhaps they didn't flee because fleeing would have meant ENTERING the\nfire from the other side?  Like they were surrounded by the fire, and\nrubble, which finally (combined with teargas, and combustion gasses)\novercame and enveloped them?\n\nIn other words they were TRAPPED by the flames, heat, fumes and rubble?\n\nDoes that sound plausable?  Not as dramatic as Korash forcing them to\nstay, or shooting them (no shot victims found yet), but plausable...\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n        As you're no doubt aware, Phill, there are probably five or six\ndifferent, mutually contradictory versions of the events in Waco on\nFeb. 28 all of which are from reputable news sources, ranging the the \nAssociated Press to TIME to Newsweek.\n\n        Some of the earliest reports issued by the AP were not at all\nflattering the to BATF, and produced some question as to who fired first.\n\n        Now, for all I know, you were there to witness it.  But\nI kind of doubt that.\n\n\n        The BATF, in a letter they've been sending out to people,\nsays both that they were ambushed because they lost the element of\nsurprise, and that they went up and knocked on the door and had it\nslammed in their faces.\n\n        It strikes *me* as kind of strange to rely on surprise to\nserve a warrant by knocking on the door.\n\n        There are at least questions that need to be answered.\n\n\n        This paranoid assertation was made by witnesses to the original\nassault who stated that the BATF initiated hostilities by throwing\nconcussion grenades and reported by the Associated Press.\n\n\n        Phill, the BATF were in a firefight with the BD for *forty-five*\nminutes.  I find it hard to believe that if they were expecting peaceful\ncitizens they *wouldn't* have shown up in live-stock trailers and would\nhave retreated immediately.\n\n        If they *were* expecting peacful citizens, why show up with over\na hundred officers, some of which clearly visible on video to be carrying \nsub-machineguns, and *3* National Guard Helicopters?\n\n        I don't know who did what, but, as I said, there are questions that \nneed to be answered.\n\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\"In Dog We Thrust\"","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Hi!\n\nI am looking for a source of lithium batteries for an original Mac II.  The\nnumber on the battery is ER 1\/2 AA.  Local electronic shops & computer stores\nfreak when inquire.  The fastest any of them can get a battery to me is 2-3\nweeks for about $20.  Anything faster and\/or cheaper is welcome!\n\nPlease respond to me via e-mail and I will summarize to the net.\n\nNote my e-mail address differs from the return address of this posting.\n\nThanks in advance for your help!","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nMaybe before Babel,everyone including angels spoke the same language,so at\nBabel, God punished us by giving us languages different from the original one.\nSo if that's the case,then angels now would be speaking in the tongue  mankind\nspoke before Babel.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\nI'm trying to get my program to monitor resize\/position events,\nso that when the program exits, I can save the last known geometry in \nsome sort of 'preferences' file.\n\nI am adding an event handler for StructureNotify to the TopLevelShell:\n\n XtAddEventHandler(topLevel,StructureNotifyMask,False,configureCB,myData);\n\nThis works fine, and my callback is called whenever the window is resized\nor repositioned using the window manager (mwm).\n\nHowever, when I'm just resizing the window, using any resize handle on the\nwindow manager resize decoration, the x and y are set to zero in the\nXEvent passed to the event handler callback.  I'm accessing the xconfigure\nstructure, like the X11 manual says.  (xev->xconfigure.x, xev->xconfigure.y).\nThe width and height memebers are correct.\n\nWhen I reposition the window, using the window manager, the xevent's xconfigure\nstructure contains all the correct x, y, width, height member settings.\n\nQ1: Anybody know why, when just resizing, the x and y are being set to zero?\n\nQ2: Any other way to handle detecting and saving geometry changes?\n\nI've tried using XtGetValues() on the topLevel widget when exiting my\napplication (before destroying any widgets) and all I get is garbage values\nfor the x, y, width, height resources.\n\nThanks\n--","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nConsider it heard!  AMI Enterprise III EISA\/VLB w\/ UltraStor 34F\n-- \n\n=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":":I tried this code yesterday.  On my Sparcstation ELC it takes over\n:300 seconds to compress 22 seconds' worth of speech.  This means that it\n:needs to be \"optimized\" by over a factor of 10 before it will be usable\n:in even a half-duplex mode.\n\nOuch!  Thanks for trying it.\n\n:I question whether CELP is the best approach for this application.  It produces\n:great compression but at the expense of tremendous CPU loads.  We want\n:something that can be run on ordinary workstations or even high-end PC's\n:without DSP cards.  My guess is that some other algorithm is going to be\n:a better starting point.\n\nYes.  I'm not sure if my xposting to comp.speech made it to here too, but\nI've found that a low sample rate (3300 samples\/sec at 8 bits per sample)\nplus the pd 'shorten' lossless sound compression code actually does get\nspeech into 14.4K with a simdgen left over.  This is *definitely* worth\nworking on, folks.  And shorten works in well under real-time.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"HELP!  I am trying to view .JPG files with my 386SX, 20MHz machine\n.  I have a STB-POWERGRAPH graphics card with 1024 X 768 by 256 colors,\nwith 1Meg RAM on it.\n\nI have tried CVIEW097 (with windows-- EXTREMELY SLOW), and DVPEG24.\nDVPEG24 doesn't work!  Even if I pick a lot of the \"modes\" that are\nsupported by POWERGRAPH (so it says in the manual), it doesn't work\nwhen I try to view a picture... it only buzzes.\n\nAnyone out there that can help me; give me suggestions?\n\nI would really appreciate it!","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nThe problem with this view is that the topic under discussion in this\npassage *is* marriages that were performed on earth.  Jesus' words\nseem to me to indicate that He regards His response as the answer to their\nquestion about which earthly marriage would be valid after the resurrection.\nThis being the case, the most straightforward interpretation, in my\nopinion, is that marriage does not exist in the next life because those\nwho are raised are of a different nature than what we are now.  Other-\nwise, why would Jesus offer \"but are like the angels in heaven\" as a\ncontrast to the idea of the resurrected marrying and being given in\nmarriage?  We do not have angel-like natures now, but someday we shall,\nand when we do, our earthly marriages will be irrelevant.  Or at least,\nthat's what I think Jesus is saying about the post-resurrection validity of \nmarriages performed on earth.  Your mileage may vary. :)","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"1993 World Championships in Germany:\n ====================================\n\n  Group A standings (Munich)            Group B standings (Dortmund)\n  --------------------------            ----------------------------\n\n             GP  W T L  GF-GA +\/-  P                  GP  W T L  GF-GA +\/-  P\n\n  Canada      3  3 0 0  17- 1 +16  6    Czech republic 3  2 1 0   8- 1  +7  5\n  Russia      3  2 1 0  12- 4  +8  5    Finland        3  2 1 0   5- 1  +4  5\n  Sweden      3  2 0 1   8- 6  +2  4    USA            3  1 2 0   8- 3  +5  4\n  Italy       3  1 1 1   5- 8  -3  3    Germany        3  2 0 1  11- 8  +3  4\n  ----------------------------------    -------------------------------------\n  Switzerland 3  0 0 3   0- 9  -9  0    France         3  0 0 3   4-13  -9  0\n  Austria     3  0 0 3   2-16 -14  0    Norway         3  0 0 3   0-10 -10  0\n\n \n April 18:  Italy - Russia        2-2       Norway - Germany          0-6\n            Sweden - Austria      1-0       USA - Czech republic      1-1\n\n April 19:  Canada - Switzerland  2-0\n            Russia - Austria      4-2       Finland - France          2-0\n\n April 20:  Sweden - Canada       1-4       Czech republic - Germany  5-0\n            Switzerland - Italy   0-1       Finland - USA             1-1\n\n April 21:                                  Germany - France          5-3\n            Italy - Sweden        2-6       Czech republic - Norway   2-0\n\n April 22:  Switzerland - Russia  0-6       USA - France              6-1\n            Austria - Canada      0-11      Norway - Finland          0-2\n\n April 23:  Switzerland - Austria           Germany - Finland\t\t20:00\n\n April 24:  Russia - Sweden                 Czech republic - France\t15:30\n            Canada - Italy                  USA - Norway\t\t20:00\n\n April 25:  Sweden - Switzerland            Finland- Czech republic  \t15:30\n            Russia - Canada                 Germany - USA\t\t20:00\n\n April 26:  Austria - Italy                 France - Norway\t\t20:00\n\n \n PLAYOFFS:\n =========\n\n April 27:\tQuarterfinals\n\t\tA #2 - B #3\t\t\t\t\t\t15:30\n\t\tA #3 - B #2\t\t\t\t\t\t20:00\n\n April 28:\tQuarterfinals\n\t\tA #1 - B #4\t\t\t\t\t\t15:30\n\t\tA #4 - B #1\t\t\t\t\t\t20:00\n\n April 29:\tRelegation\n\t\tA #5 - B #6\t\t\t\t\t\t15:30\n\t\tA #6 - B #5\t\t\t\t\t\t20:00\n\n April 30:\tSemifinals\n\t\tA #1\/B #4 - A #3\/B #2\t\t\t\t\t15:30\n\t\tA #4\/B #1 - A #2\/B #3\t\t\t\t\t20:00\n\n May 1:\t\tRelegation\t\t\t\t\t\t14:30\n\t\tBronze medal game \t\t\t\t\t19:00\n\n May 2:\t\tFINAL\t\t\t\t\t\t\t15:00\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"    I am thinking about buying a new motherboard and a cyrix 486dlc 40 or 33 Mh\nz.  It will be an upgrade from a 386sx 25.  I was wondering if anybody has any\nFACTS they can fill me in on.  If anybody has one what do you think about it?\nI will also get a cyrix math co with it.  I have benchmarks for the two chips a\nnd they look very good for the price.  If anybody responds please send me email\n because I usually don't check the mail very often but I check my reader daily.\n    Thanks for your info, and remember only respond if you have legitimate comp\nlaints or praise, not just to Cyrix\/AMD bash.  I know about what Byte, computer\n shopper, pc computing and etc... have said and that is why I am considering\nthe Cyrix chip.  Thanks.........\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nThis may work, but won't it involve invoking the applications, e.g. if you\ndrag a .bmp or .txt file to the min. Print Manager icon, won't it RUN\nNotepad and Paintbrush before printing?  If you just want to drag a file\n(.txt or .bmp) to a print server icon, with stay at front attributes, you\nneed an intelligent Print Manager drag and drop client like Amish Print 2.0.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nThere would be some point to doing long-term monitoring of things like\nparticles and fields, not to mention atmospheric phenomena.  However,\nthere is no particular plan to establish any sort of monitoring network.\nTo be precise, there is no particular plan, period.  This is a large\npart of the problem.  In this context, it's not surprising that unexciting\nbut useful missions like this get short shrift at budget time.  The closest\napproach to any sort of long-term planetary monitoring mission is the\noccasional chance to piggyback something like this on top of a flashier\nmission like Galileo or Cassini.\n\n\nIt is most unlikely that there is much happening on Pluto that would be\nworth monitoring, and it is a prohibitively difficult mission to fly\nwithout new propulsion technology (something the planetary community\nhas firmly resisted being the guinea pigs for).  The combined need to\narrive at Pluto within a reasonable amount of time, and then kill nearly\nall of the cruise velocity to settle into an orbit, is beyond what can\nreasonably be done with current (that is, 1950s-vintage) propulsion.\n\n\nMost of this can be done just about as well from Earth.  The few things\nthat can't be, can be done better from a Voyager-like spacecraft that is\n*not* constrained by the need to enter orbit around a planet.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nIt sounds as though you might want to try a product such as \"super-glue\".\nThe active ingredient is cynoacrylate, the same compound used to reconstruct\nbones.  I have successfully used superglue for a number of procedures on many\ndifferent species of animal. If you are simply trying to adhear something\nto bone for several months, this would be ideal. It bonds almost immediatly,\nis resistant to infection, and is non-irritating to surrounding tissue.\n\nPhil Bowman, Manager\nLab Animal Resources\nUniversity of Montana\nMissoula, MT 59812\nlarpjb@selway.umt.edu\n:wg\n\n\n-- \n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nOwwww!!  Mr. Jefferson would be clearly disappointed in your designation of \nhim as author of the bill of rights.  And your reference to those\nin Israel was condesceding and inappropriate.\nThe Declaratio of Independence of 1776 was written by Thomas Jefferson.\nIn 1787, the Constitution was drafted by 55 men in Philadelphia.\nIn 1791, the Bill of Rights was added.  Well, maybe Jefferson\nwould be flattered.\n\nAs to you guys at UVA, your right, not all of you are anti-Jewish,\nor self-hating.  But when I visited Charlottesville, I noticed\na distinct lack of diversity, from which I must assume you garner\nyour inability to perceive the reality of the outside world.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"(Anthony \n\nIf she doesn't welcome the excruciating pain of labor, the\nselfish bitch deserves to die in childbirth.  She was probably\nlying about the rape anyway.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I have the following complete camera kits for sale:\n\nMinolta with three lenses.\nRicoh with zoom lens.\nNikon 35 mm autofocus. $50.\nNikkor 50\/1.8 MINT. $60.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nSorry, but this is a red herring.\n\nAre you contending that the \"mountain of forms\" are processed by Blue\nCross?  Having had Blue Cross insurance both as a government employee\nand as an employee of a private corporation, I saw no difference between\nthe two sets of forms.  \n\nMoreover, the administrative costs associated with Medicare\/Medicaid,\nthe two primary forms of \"government\" insurance are considerably lower than\nthe average for private insurance companies.   (5% versus 14%-16%).\n\nIf you have any evidence that Blue Cross bears a heavier burden in insuring\ngovernment employees than private employees, post it.  Otherwise, try\nto stick to factual assertions.\n\n\nWell now, that's an interesting defense of the \"free enterprise\" system.\nAre you contending that it is government intervention that prevents \nprivate insurance companies from \"standardizing?\"\n\nIn fact, it is true that some of the red-tape burden stems from the \nlack of standardization among the 1500 or so private insurers in the US,\nbut it's a little difficult to understand how this is anything other than\n\"free enterprise\" at work.  \n\nBy the way, Barron's, the bible of Wall Street, this week admitted that\nadministrative costs were significantly lower in Canada because \"....a\nsingle-payer system is always cheaper...\".  Guess even the \"free enterprise\nadvocates\" are beginning to see the light.\n\nSorry, but you seem to be confusing proposals with health care\nreform with the Bush administration's gag order on federally funded family\nplanning clinics.  There are no proposals that would control what your\n\"doctor...can and cannot say about medical procedures.\"\n\nTry again.\n\njsh","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I have a Uniden visor clip sized radar detector with x, k, and ka band  forsale.  Has city\/highway and audio\/mute options and comes with cigarette lighter attachment. I'm asking $50.  Please e-mail replies to jth@bach.udel.edu","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I just bought a new AMIECU EISA motherboard and an Adaptec 1742A fast-SCSI \ncontroller. I wanted to install the AHA-1742A and did as written in the\nAMIECU manual. But the CFG-utility told me to get a newer version of the Adaptec \nconfiguration overlay file named 'adp0000.ovr', because the old one is not \ncompatible to my motherboard.\nThe adaptec driver utility is version 3.0.\n\n       CAN YOU HELP ME ? PLEASE DO SO.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nLike we have never heard of, or read these verses before?\n\nHow about you read them in context, taking into consideration the times and \nplaces in which they were written; the local customs and pagan rituals; \nwhat the surrounding verses are talking about and how they interact with \nthe rest of the Bible.\n\nThere are many issues in the Bible that are argued, and can be argued \nsuccessfullly from both sides of an issue.  Some examples that come to mind\nare \n\t\tGifts of the Spirit\n\t\twhen the Rapture will occur(pre or post tribulation)\n\t\thow people should be baptized\nto name a few.\n\nI have found nothing in scripture that condemns me, or anyone else, for having\na monogamous relationship with the person whom I love, even if we are the\nsame sex.\n\nI'm sorry if I am coming across as heated.  It's just that the Lord has been\nso dear to me the last several years and I'm tired of hearing this same old\nthing from people who believe what their told rather than finding out for \nthemselves.\n\nCheck it out for yourself.  Invite the Holy Spirit to guide you.  If I weren't\nconfident of this I wouldn't invite you to do this.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nI doubt his trans uses standard syncros.  There are several mechanisms for\ncoupling a gear with the transmission output shaft, some of which are fine\nfor racing and unsuitable for street use.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"For those who pray in tongues,\n\n      When is it appropriate for you to pray\/speak in tongues\nand why?  I just would like to gain more knowledge about this subject.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\nHow much do you watch and follow hockey?  The Pens and Bruins will be in the\nsame division next season, which will give Neeley plenty of opportunity\nto whine about Ulf.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nDriving While Impared.  It allows for prosecution of drivers under the\ninfluence of a variety of drugs.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I am currently managing, among many other labs, a lab with three \nLC IIs, a Mac Plus with 45 MB external HD, and a LaserWriter II NTX. My \nproblem? The LC IIs seem to intermittently slow to a snail's pace.\n        These LC IIs have 4 MB RAM, 256K VRAM, and a Quantum LP105S HD \ninstalled. I have reformatted the drive with Hard Disk Toolkit 1.3, and \nit gives a very respectable 2.9 overall rating to this drive, so it's not \nthe drive. I have reinstalled System 7.1, MS-Word 5.1a, MS-Works 3.0, and \nso on, all from the master disks. In short, I have done everything I can \nthink of in software. I am *not* a hardware hacker, though I pop cases \nfairly often. But nothing works.\n        The problem is intermittent and unpredictable. The mouse always \nmoves smoothly, floppies always run at the same speed, but occasionally, \nfor about 1-2 hours at a time, a machine will run like it was running on \na 4 MHz 68000, not a 16 MHz 68030. It is VERY frustrating and makes it \nnearly unusable. It does seem to worsen with increasing disk activity.\n        Has anyone encountered this problem before? Has anyone got any \nideas? They would be much appreciated.\n\n                                    -- Andrew Geweke\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"[...]\n\nYou could be right.  Then again, you could be wrong.  This claim is completely\nunverifiable and untestable.  I'd wager most of the Braves fans on the net\ncould name more than 3 players from their 1988 season.\n\nYou could give away tickets to Braves games.  However, my Dad and I were able\nto get great seats from scalper for face value, which isn't exactly the sign\nof a hot ticket...\n\n\nThis is *precisely* why they were considered America's team.  Even\n(especially?) when they were bad, you could see most of the Braves games on\ncable.  You could do that for the Cubs as well, but the Braves had better\ncamerawork, better announcers (what would you rather listen to -- Harry discuss\nthe game, or Skip and Pete discuss motoball?), and teams that weren't *too*\nmuch worse.  Because of TBS, the Braves had a lot of fans outside of Georgia.\nAt home in Kentucky, even though we were much closer to Cincinnati there was\nas many Braves fans as Reds fans, even in 1990.  You could actually watch the\nBraves play -- you had to go to Cincinnati to watch the Reds.  I can go\nanywhere in America and watch the Braves.\n    \n\nWhy?  I'd guess that Braves fans are more widely distributed than Toronto\nfans.\n-- \nDale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nSee the rec.pets.cats FAQ or any doctor or vet for more information.\n\nI am not any of the above, but we do have a couple of cats.\n\nIt is transmitted through the fecal matter, so a pregnant woman should\navoid cleaning the cat tray and you should both wash hands before\npreparing or eating meals.  The latter is sound advice at any time of\ncourse.\n\nApart from that, its no great problem.  You certainly do not need to\nget rid of your cats.\n\nPaul.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nI can understand your anger about the German audience. I mean, it was the\nFinnish team they played and they were taking advantage of the ridiculous\npenalties the Canadien ref called in the last period. The Germans got a\nmatch penalty and a 10 minutes misconduct for practically nothing and\nseconds after that the German goalie got two minutes for \"delay of game\"\nfor a shot that was deflected and went into the crowd. The resulting 5:3\nskating advantage lead to the deciding goal at a point, when the Germans\nwere starting to come up strong.\nI am also sick of the nationalism that is going on in German sports events.\nIf you watch for example a tennis Davis Cup match the players are often not\nable to play for minutes, because the crowd is so obnoxious. But I have to\nadmit that this kind of nationalism is as strong or even stronger in most\nother countries (you should go to the US and watch the way they present the\nOlympics on television; or the soccer crowds in England; or the Finnish\nspectators at nordic skiing events.....). I mean it makes me sick to see\nall this nationalism all over the world and I would rather see the best\nteam\/player win and get cheared at. I do not mind if my favorite team\nlooses to somebody that is better or plays more attractive and I have to\nadmit that in most sports the German national site is not my favorite team\nto watch (the German soccer team is boring to watch, for example).\nBut, reading the above posting, I think that you are on the same level as\nthese crowds you are criticizing. It is easy to talk of (nearly all)\nGermans as Nazis and nationalists; thats the kind of propaganda that all\nultraconservative people use against Germany. It is true that there is a\ngreat danger of re-arising nationalism in Germany but from my experience\nmost of the people (at least of the people that i know) also regard this as\na big threat and are trying to demonstrate this attitude now. Why can't we\njust look at people as human beeings and not try to put them into drawers\ncorresponding to their nationality (eg. all Russians are Communists; all\nAmericans are Capitalists; all Germans are Nazis, all Fins are hanging\naround beeing drunk on ferries...). \nIn my opinion, your comment shows the narrowness of your mind and that you\ndon't seem to be different from the Nazis you are talking about.\n\nThomas\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nbut theology is full of reason even if it is, as we believe, based on false\npremises etc etc.\n\n\nhold on there: no meaning to \"consciousness\" or \"mind\" or \"self\"?!\n\n\nwhat illogicality?\n\n\nsince when is, for instance, (non-behaviourist) psychology a pipe dream? \nSurely the major purpose of the science of psychology is to understand the\nworkings of the mind.\n\n\n\"manifestations of the mundane\" sounds rather transcendental to me. In fact\n\"matter\", \"energy\", \"space\" and \"time\" are well measured but mysterious\nconcepts. \n\nDoes an atheist really have to believe in your reductionism or be cast out as\nnot following the true faith?!","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"hey folks,\n\nI'm fairly new to these groups, tho' some have heard from me before.\n\nI'd like to get your comments on a question that has been on my mind a\nlot:  What morals\/ethics apply to dreams and out-of-body incidents?\nIn normal dreams, you can't control anything, so obviously\nyou aren't morally responsible for your actions.  But if you can contrive\nto control the action in dreams or do an OOBE, it seems like a morality applies.\n\nNow, there seem to be 3 alternatives:\n\n1) Dreams and OOBEs are totally mental phenomena.  In this case no morality\napplies beyond what might be called 'mental hygiene', that is, not trying\nto think about anything evil, or indulgining in overly sexy or violent\nthoughts.\n\n2) Dreams and OOBEs have a reality of their own (i.e. are 'another plane')\nEvidence for this is that often dreams and OOBEs are sometimes done in\ncommon by more than one person.  A\nmark of objective fact is that >1 people report the same objective experience.\nIn this case, the same interpersonal morality\/ethics applies in dreams and\nOOBEs as does in waking life.\n\n3) Like (2), but here we assume that though the dreeam and OOBE environs have a\nreal existence, a different moral\/ethics apply there, and no (or maybe \ndifferent) moral laws apply there.\n\nSo... There it is.  Is one of these cases the truth, or does anyone know\nof another alternative?  respond by post or email.\n\nthanks very much\n\n*dt*\n\n========================================================","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Base Unit\n               1 Controller\n               All Cables and hookups\n                Games:\n                  Kieth Courage\n                  Legenary Axe\n                  Fantasy Zone\n                  Victory Run\n                  Wrestling Challenge\n                  Blazing Lasers\n                  Military Madness\n                  Bloody Wolf","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"[..]\n\nPossibly the parallel just stems from your tending to use bad sources...\nAnyway, don't you think that similarity is rather shallow?  You're only\nlooking at the surface, at the way of argumentation.  \nAnd now you should perhaps go a little deeper and try to find the difference,\nfor example, find out whether you can find real science done by Hitching.\nIf you can't, will you then admit that your attempt at quoting an authority\nhas backfired?\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I know nothing about Sun's but replacing pieces of libraries, shared\nor not, is straight forward on RS\/6000's (all releases).  Extract the\nappropriate pierce with ar; rebind the .o; and replace with ar.\nSee Info for details.\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"From article <1r0mhtINNa59@cronkite.Central.Sun.COM>, by dbernard@clesun.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard):\n\nI noticed that too.  Special agent (asshole actually) Ricks stated that\nDavid Koresh had \"explosives that could blow up an armored vehicle 40\nfeet into the air.\"  It looked like to me that the BDs had plenty of\nopportunity to use these explosives---provided that they had them in the\nfirst place.  For example, when one of the tanks was injecting CS gas\ninto the ranch house (yes ranch house; the BDs weren't living in a\nfortress) they could have easily destroyed or disabled that tank because\nit was idling there for a considerable length of time.  So, why didn't\nthey do this?  Could it be that they didn't have any explosives or\nsimilar munitions?  I just don't buy what the ATF and FBI have been\nsaying.  Hopefully, the truth will come out.\n\nHere's something noteworthy:  after the fire had been burning for some\ntime an explosion occurred---just *one* explosion.  The media said that\nthis was some of the explosives that the BDs posessed going off.  I\ndon't think this was the case.  My brother and I noticed that this\nso-called \"explosion\" resembled a plume of propane gas being ignited.\nWe figure that this is what it was because of how the \"explosion\"\nlooked and sounded.  Obviously, it wasn't due to something like TNT,\ndynamite, or C4.  I have seen a propane explosion before...the explosion\nin the ranch house greatly resembled this.  Also, I noticed something\nthat looked like a propane tank in the charred ruble the next day.\n\nIsn't it curious that the ATF wasn't very forthcoming about how the four\nofficers got killed?  Many weeks had gone by before they stated that\nsome of the officers had been killed and\/or wounded by grenades thrown\nby the BDs.  Earlier, when someone asked one of the spokespersons about\nwhether or not an autopsy had been performed on the slain agents, they\nsaid that an autopsy had been done but THEY WEREN'T READY TO RELEASE\nTHE FINDINGS.  Now why is this?  Does the ATF have something to hide?\nPerhaps those four agents were killed by friendly fire.  What is the\ncause of death exactly?  NO ONE HAS EVER SAID WHAT IT IS.\n\nWhat is certain is this:  ATF agents *did* throw grenades into the\ncompound.  As a matter of fact, Mr. Koresh handed his lawyer a grenade\nbody during one of the lawyer's visits to the compound.  Later on\nthe lawyer gave the grenade body (I don't know if it was a dud or a\nspent one btw) to the ATF.  How much do you want to bet that this\ngrenade will mysteriously disappear?  At this point in time the only\npeople we know who had grenades was the ATF agents.  Wouldn't it be\na shocker if the no one ever found any evidence of grenades, rockets,\nor explosives in the rubble?  The ATF would sure have egg on their\nface then.  Note that the ATF is doing the *initial* sweep of the\nrubble.  The FBI and the Texas Rangers won't investigate until the\nATF is done.  This looks like a perfect opportunity for the ATF to\nmake sure that others \"find\" what they want for them to \"find\" if\nyou know what I mean.  I'm probably being a little paranoid here\nbut if I am I have could reason to be.  Recall that several weeks\nhad gone by before anyone said that the BDs had used grenades.\nAlso recall that early on the ATF had *denied* that their agents\nused grenades on the BDs.  Someone is lying here.\n\n\nScott Kennedy,  Brewer and Patriot","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nI is a strong deterent to the teens that are executed.  They won't do that\nagain!  This policy cuts way down on repeat offenders.\n\nPlease do not flame me - I don't agree with capital punishment for teen's.\n\n\n\nThey are also unsupervised.  With proper supervision, they would not be\nthrowing rocks.  If parents cannot provide the minimal supervision needed\nto stop this activity, they should not be allowed to have children :-)\n\nNotice the smiley ;-) \n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n4. Annex Gaza to Egypt.\n5. Annex Gaza to Israel\n6. Maintain the status quo.\n7. Partition Gaza into a Jewish and an Arab state.\n\n\tI don't necisarily support any of these, I just felt like\npointing out there are way more than three solutions.  Next time,\nmaybe we'll see some research into them....\n\nAdam\nAdam Shostack \t\t\t\t       adam@das.harvard.edu","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"   From psc@sei.cmu.edu (Peter Capell) on rec.martial-arts...\n   >I'm sure such weapons have been developed.  Our society does not,\n   >however, condone their possession or use.  \n\nActually, Joe, I wrote the above.  Peter was responding to my article.\n\nI'm actually rather confused by your post.  I suppose I didn't\nmake myself clear, cause you seem to have gotten exactly the\nopposite impression from what I intended.  I suppose \"the authorities\"\nmight have been a better term than \"society\".  Carry and use a firearm\nin many parts of the country (certainly the parts I live in), and expect,\nat the very least, to have an awful lot of explaining to do.\nAnd there is also appears to be  a trend in society at large that\nactively opposes what many see as their right to defend themselves.\n\n   In a few other parts of our society, handguns are banned or\n   so restricted as to be practically unavailable to the law-\n   abiding citizen for self-defense outside the home.  Funny, \n   though, how the criminals in such places continue to have a \n   lush supply of guns and no compunctions about using them.  \n   IMHO, you don't need to be either a political philosopher or \n   a crime victim to realize that there's a flaw in the gun-\n   grabbers' logic.  \n\nAgreed.\n\n   You're welcome to your HO, too, the First Amendment being as \n   important as the Second, but please don't let your obvious \n   good intentions be subverted by insupportable generalities \n   about something as big and diverse as US society.\n\nMy only intention was to comment that the existence of suitable\nweapons of self defense doesn't mean you'll escape a whole shitload\nof trouble should you be forced to use them.\n\n   Or by the\n   naive hope that making gun possession a crime will give pause \n   to someone who would be a criminal anyway.\n\nI made no such statements, nor do I have such a naive hope or outlook.  \n   \n   Wishing you peace and the wherewithal to defend yourself\n   if others' thoughts are not that kindly,\n\nThat's all I want: the opportunity to leave in peace, or to \nhave the means to defend myself when that in not possible.\n\nI *think* we agree on this issue.  I guess my position didn't\nsurvive the transition from cognition to ASCII.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"News:\n=====\nFor the first time all season, the Flames are now injury-free. The only player\nremaining on the limp is center Carey Wilson who, even when healthy, is not \na major part of the team. \n\nTrent Yawney did not score a goal all season until the last regular season\ngame against San Jose. He potted his first of the year in that game, and has\nalso scored goals in both Game 1 and Game 2 against Los Angeles. \n\nThoughts on Game 1:\n==================\n\nThe Flames played horribly in dropping the first game of their series with\nLos Angeles 6-3 on Sunday afternoon. They seemed more interested in throwing\nbig hits than in scoring goals. They physically dominated the Kings, but that\nwas the only area they dominated in. The game plan was to rush the net and \ntry and take advantage of a young, inexperienced L.A. defence and the shaky\nKings goaltending, but those plans fell by the wayside while the Flames\nconducted a steady march to the penalty box. Particularily stupid was Theoren\nFleury taking a five minute major and a game misconduct for slamming Warren\nRychel's face into the dasher while Rychel was on his knees. \n\nGoaltender Mike Vernon played well and could not really be faulted for the\nloss, despite his well-publicized poor record in afternoon games. He got\nvery little support from his defence in clearing the front of the net and \nsweeping away rebounds. In fact, Marty McSorley's goal actually went in off\nChris Dahlquist's skate in front of the net. \n\nThoughts on Game 2:\n==================\n\nThe Flames came back strong in the second game, evidently aware of the\npotentially fatal consequences of losing both the first two games on home ice.\nThe first period was fairly even, with the edge going to the Kings. But Calgary\ncame out strong in the second period and simply dominated the Kings, scoring\nfive goals to take a lead they never relinquished en route to a 9-4 win. \n\nThe deciding factors in this game were faceoffs and special teams. Calgary\ndominated on faceoffs as they did in Game 1, but they were able to make better\nuse of the won faceoffs in this game than they did in the first one. Calgary\nalso went 3-for-5 on the powerplay while L.A. only went 1-for-8 and gave up\na shorthanded goal to Joel Otto. L.A.'s powerplay goal also came late in the\ngame with the outcome already decided. The Kings' powerplay failed them when\nthey needed it most, in the 1st and 2nd periods. \n\nThe Flames lost RW Greg Paslawski with a suspected shoulder injury when he\nwas leveled by Alexei Zhitnik right after scoring Calgary's 7th goal. Charlie\nHuddy left the game for the Kings with a groin injury. \n\nThe game was marred by stupidity in the last minute. First, Craig Berube of\nCalgary took a five-minute major for fighting plus a game misconduct for\ninstigating when he went after Tony Granato for no apparent reason. Granato\ndrew a minor for some strange reason. (Turtling perhaps). This was followed\n30 seconds later by Warren Rychel drawing a major, minor, and game misconduct\nfor hitting Frank Musil in the face with his stick and then instigating a\nfight. Musil got a fighting major for some similarily strange reason. Hardy and\nYawney went toe-to-toe and both got double minors. (Gregson thought that Musil \nturtling amounted to fighting, but that Yawney and Hardy throwing punches at \neach other was just roughing? Where's this guy from.....)\n \nUpcoming games:\n==============\nFriday April 23, at L.A.\nSunday April 25, at L.A.\nTuesday April 27, home to L.A. \nThursday April 29, at L.A. (if necessary)\nSaturday May 1, home to L.A. (if necessary)\n\nInjuries:\n========\nC  Carey Wilson, indefinite with recurring knee injuries (Dec 10)\n\n1992-93 Calgary Flames final regular season statistics.\n========================================================\n\n#   Pos.  Name                  GP     G      A     Pts     +\/-    PIM\n===============================================================================\n14  RW    Theoren Fleury        83     34     66    100     +14     88\n26  C     Robert Reichel        80     40     48     88     +25     54\n20  D     Gary Suter            81     23     58     81     -1     112\n10  LW    Gary Roberts          58     38     41     79     +32    172\n25  C     Joe Nieuwendyk        79     38     37     75     +9      52\n42  RW    Sergei Makarov        71     18     39     57      0      40\n 2  D     Al MacInnis           50     11     43     54     +15     61\n29  C     Joel Otto             75     19     33     54     +2     150\n28  LW    Paul Ranheim          83     21     22     43     -4      26\n23  RW    Greg Paslawski        73     18     24     42     +3      12\n22  RW    Ron Stern             70     10     15     25     +4     207\n15  LW    Brent Ashton          58     10     13     23     +11     52\n11  LW    Chris Lindberg        62      9     12     21     -3      18\n34  D     Roger Johansson       77      4     16     20     +13     62\n18  D     Trent Yawney          63      1     16     17     +9      67\n 3  D     Frank Musil           80      6     10     16     +28    131\n39  C     Brian Skrudland       39      7      7     14     +4      65\n16  LW    Craig Berube          77      4      8     12     -6     209\n 7  D     Michel Petit          35      3      9     12     -5      54\n 4  D     Kevin Dahl            61      2      9     11     +9      56\n33  C     Carey Wilson (I)      22      4      7     11     +10      8\n 5  D     Chris Dahlquist       74      3      7     10      0      66\n21  D     Alexander Godynyuk    27      3      4      7     +6      19\n19  RW    Todd Harkins          15      2      3      5     -4      22\n12  LW    Paul Kruse            27      2      3      5     +2      41\n35  G     Jeff Reese            26      0      4      4      0       4\n 6  D     Greg Smyth            35      1      2      3     +2      95\n30  G     Mike Vernon           64      0      2      2      0      42\n27  RW    Thomas Forslund        6      0      2      2      0       0\n??  C     Shawn Heaphy           1      0      0      0      0       2\n??  LW    Patrick Lebeau         1      0      0      0      0       0\n 1  G     Andrei Trefilov        1      0      0      0      0       2","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I have recently purchased a PB170 and have no more use for my\nRasterOps 8XL.  It has been a great card.  I should have traded it\nwith my IIci, but I forgot.  My forgetfulness si your gain.\nGreat 8 bit video that supports:\n\n640x480 (Apple 13\"\/14\")\n640x870 (Apple Portrait)\n800x600 (Silly DOS monitor resolution)\n1024x768 (60hz & 75hz)\n1152x870 (Apple 21\")\n\nHas hardware Pan & Zoom and supports virtual desktops up to the size of\n2 Newspaper pages.  Includes standard Apple monitor cable or card to BNC,\nyou choose.\n\nI am asking $250 (it's still advertised in MacWorld for up to $499). \nCompletely negotiable.  I can get a monitor and sell the pair.  I will\naccept offers for software or PowerBook accessory trades.\nMake an offer.\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nFWB distributes HDT Personal Edition (HDT = Hard Drive Toolkit), which\nis what I own. This is less fancy than the \"full\" version, but good\nenough for what you and I want to do. Casa Blanca offers Drive7, but\nI'm not that familiar with it. I *think* that both Drive7 and HDT PE\ncan be had for around US$50.\n\nI've used Silverlinging at work (v 5.42??), and I like HDT PE much\nbetter. IMHO it has a better interface, and easier to understand.\n\nAny Drive7 users?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\nI too am of the same  sentiment Bart, but realistically, this town DOESN'T WANT TO pay for \nquality player and hence we are loosing these people left, right and center.\nLabour is also responsible for their boycott Pocklington movement.\nI would like the Oilers to stay, but realistically, given this situation, it's \nbye-bye Oilers.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Hello Xperts out there.\nI've just built X11R5 for SunOS 4.1.1\/SPARC.\nI have gcc-2.2 and I'd like to use its 64-bit capability\nto generate an X11 release which will render to the frame\nbuffer using store-double (64-bit) machine code.\nCan anyone tell me which directories\/source files\/\ncompiler switches to begin with?\n\nthanks in advance","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n   Hi,\n\n   I have been told by a local sales that Asante has come out with this\n   LCIII PDS Ethernet adapter with an optional 68882 socket on the board.\n   My question is will the FPU performance degrade will I put the 68882\n   on the PDS card socket instead of on the motherboard itself? Intuitively,\n   the math co-processor should always be placed close to the CPU, but\n   I am not sure how good Apple's so-called processor-direct slot is when\n   it comes to throughout. Does anyone know the answer to this or have\n   any experience with the Asante LCIII Ethernet adapter? Thanks in advance.\n\nFrom what I've heard the PDS slot clock is only 16MHz, to be\ncompatible with the old LC style boards, while the FPU socket close to\nthe CPU is clocked at 25MHz.\n\nI guess a board designed for the LCIII can get a 25MHz clock from the\nextended PDS socket...","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI looked back at this, and asked some questions of various people and\ngot the following information which I had claimed and you pooh-poohed.\nThe US has not sold Iraq any arms.  Their navy is entirely made of\nF-USSR vessels.  Their airforce (not including stuff captured from Kuwait\nwhich I am not as sure about), doesn't include any US equipment.  Their\nmissiles are all non-US.  Their tanks are almost all soviet, with about\n100 French tanks (older ones). The only US stuff in the Iraqi arsenal\nis a few M113s.  Those were not sold to Iraq.  Iraq captured them from\nother countries (like Kuwait).  Information is hard to prove.  You are\nclaiming that the US sold information?  Prove it. \n\nNow, how did the US build up Iraq again?  I just gave some fairly\nconclusive evidence that the US didn't sell arms to Iraq.  Information\nis hard to prove, almost certainly if the US did sell information, then that\nfact is classified, and you can't prove it.  If you can provide some\nuseful evidence that the US sold arms or valuable intelligence to Iraq,\nI am very interested, but not if you just make claims based on what\n\"everyone knows\".\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nSpring break, I went through the four corners area and back.  The most\nbeautiful stop I made was in Utah at the Needles Overlook.  Though this\nis a bit further east than where you appear to be going, I highly\nrecommend it.  IMHO it is far more beautiful than the Grand Canyon.  It\nwas not well marked, but was one of few paved roads off of US191 (I was\nheading north from Monticello).  In order to get to the right place, I\nshould clarify that it is the Needles OVERLOOK, and not the recreation\narea.  Heading north from Monticello, it is the second turnoff, and may\nhave been marked as the Anticline Overlook.  Anticline overlook is\nabout 20 (dirt, if this matters to you) miles past the Needles\noverlook.  The road out to the overlook is paved and reasonably\nmaintained (I ran it about 70mph).\n\nLooking out from the overlook was like being God and looking down on \nthe world.  If it isn't too far out of your way, you should see it.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"only\n(to\nwas\nmjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nYes it invokes the associated application. That takes but 10 seconds?","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n: Hi All,\n\n: Would anyone out there in 'net-land' happen to have an\n: authentic, sure-fire way of making this great sauce that\n: is used to adorn Gyro's and Souvlaki?\n\n: Thanks,\n\nI have a receipe at home that was posted to me by one of our fellow\nnetters about a month ago.  I am recalling this from memory but\nI think I'm fairly close (by the way it was GREAT!)\n\n1 \tpint of plain yogurt \n1\/2\tmed. sized cucumber finely shredded\n3\tcloves of garlic (more or less by taste)\n1\/4 tsp\tdill weed\n\nThe yogurt is dumped into a strainer lined with a coffee\nfilter and allowed to drain at least 2 hours (you can\nadjust the consistancy of the sauce by increasing this time\nup to 24 hours)\n\nThe shredded cuc is drained the same way\n\nMix it all together and let it steep for at least\n2 hours (it's better the next day) and enjoy!","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nUm... they've sold the Cray. They realised that spending two years on\nnumbercrunching the finite stress analysis figures for the complex\ninjection-molded cases was not the way to go, and was holding up\ndevelopment work.\nEspecially when the first FEA model for the portable left out the battery\ncover, and it had to be redone. That's why the portable was about three\nyears late.\n\nDesigning metal cases is easier - they're managing with the Calculator DA,\nnow it can compute 45\/100-0.45 correctly.\n\nAny other suggestions?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Has anyone noticed that all this happened since Chris Perez was gifted\nwith a membership?\n\nAnyone for rec.motorcycles.beemer.club.whiner? I know this might get\nconfused with K-whiners, but maybe there's a connection?","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\nI was wondering if anyone knew of an interface to od ( octal dump ), I assume\nit would be called xod.  Actually, any viewer for a core file will do.\n\nI looked at export ( @ mit ) in the index of \/contrib, but didn't find anything \nrelevant.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nNo, what it means is that I, like a majority of environmental scientists\/researchers,\nagree that El Nino\/La Nina and the Southern Oscillations are the systems\ninvoloved in that climatic phenomena categorized by humans as a drought(1988).\n\nFurthermore, in response to an earlier message, the 1992 U.S. est. output of\nsulfur dioxide (20 mill. tons) was equivalent to the entire output by the recent\neruption of Mt. Pinautubo(Sp.).  Currently world carbon dioxide levels set at approx.\n360 ppm, in the past 120,000 years it has never gone above 280 (this info\nwas found using ice core samples from the joint French\/Russian\/U.S. Vostok\nproject).  Furthermore,  the background emmisions of chlorine compounds into\nthe atmoshpere is about 0.6 ppb annually, it now sits at 3.5.  This OVERWHELMING\ndata\/info is found in the World Resources doc. published by Oxford University.\n\nThe ozone hole in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres keeps getting bigger\nand stickin' around longer whilst skeptics ponder how wrong or corrupt all this\ndata from government and international scientific institutions is.  It is a pity, that,\nif the skeptics are wrong and we base our complacency on their Limbaugh\npsycho babble, then we will find ourselves strapped by limited options with\nwhich to rectify the primal engineering of our industrial age.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nA search for illegally held weapons (IF there were any, no evidence yet\nproduced to this effect) does not justify firing into a house with\nwomen and children, either. It also does not justify shooting first\nwithout identifying oneself (the ATF and FBI have done this before, so\ndon't say they haven't, please) or producing a warrant.\n\nGuess it depends on whose story one believes, huh?\n\n\nWhich \"others\" are we talking about here?\n\n\n\"Sub lethal\"? Excuse me, but those people are dead!!!\n\n\nEvidence? So far the FBI has produced none. Don't hold your breath.\n\n\nOnly a few of those being held in chains and s(hackles are wanted . \nThe rest are being held for the crime of being \"material witnesses\".\n\n\nIt was not the Feds decision to make, but the firefighters.\n\n\nThis is true of ANY answer to a call for help from a fire department by\nANY citizen. Since fire departments do answer calls that \"deprive \nresources that might be needed elsewhere\" it is not a valid reason for\nnot calling them.\n\nFurther, since the Davidians had not been found guilty of any crime in\na court of law, they are subject to the same protection as any other\ncitizen. And las far as I know, even criminals in prison are not left to \nburn to death in a fire.\n\n\nI guess this is a matter of religious faith with you? The government\nsays it, so it must be so? Or haven't you been reading this thread well \nenough to notice that some of us here don't beleive their story?\n\n\nPatients in psychiatric hospitals are not left to die in fires, either.\nBesides, as I explained, some of us here believe their distress might\nhave been genuine. Are you SO certain it wasn't?\n\n\nThere is no evidence that the Davidians committed human sacrifice \neither before of after the initial raid. And self-defense is not\nmurder.\n\n\nHe did not say it was deliberate. Accidents do not require conspiracy\ntheories, only wanton disregard for human life. The initial raid alone\n(agents firing blind into walls against all standards of law enforce-\nment procedure) proves they did not mind killing people.\n\n\nNo one here is \"supporting Koresh\". We are opposing the illegal use of\nexcessive violence by our government against our citizens. That is all.\n\n\nA society that believes it is OK to terrorize people for their religious\nviews will destroy itself in due time. It is the feds who disrupted the\n\"fabric of society\" in Waco, not Koresh. It is the feds who forced a\nnightmare onto the people of Mount Carmel.\n\n\nOn what basis do you assume we haven't? Don't you really mean\n\"It would be a good thing if people drew the same conclusions from\nhistory that I do?\" :-)\n\n\n\"Militant\" implies acts of aggression against one's neighbors. The\nDavidians left their neighbors alone.\n\n.religious heretics who left to set up such a community\n\nSo what? The Mormons were considered a \"cult\" for years, and were chased\nout of one place after another on much the same thinking as you are\nadvocating. When they finally got to \"set up a community\" they left\npeople alone. So far Americans haven't been put to the sword by Mormon\nhordes crying to avenge Joseph Smith. :-)\n\n\nIt doesn't mean they won't either. Anyway, the whole purpose of a \nsystem of laws is to punish people for what they DO, not what they\nMIGHT do. \n\n\n\"Telling\" is not the same as \"forcing\". When the police knock at my\ndoor, I cannot make them go away by changing the channeI. As for Pat\nand friends, I don't even WATCH their channel, since I am an atheist.\nSo far, not watching them tell me what to do hasn't gotten me killed :-)\n\n\nRight now, the only people sticking guns in anyone's faces is the \ngovernment. And they are trying very hard to run my life. Or \nhaven't you noticed?\n\n\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nOh, yeah.  This is a fine place.  We haven't had the \"why does concrete\nkill lead-acid batteries\" thread in at least six months.\n\n\nThe concrete simply sucks all the electrons out of the battery and drains\nthem into the ground.\n\nAnother explanation, implausible as it is,  is that the lead-acid battery\nneeds to be periodically charged (topped-off), otherwise the battery\nself-discharges and then undergoes irreversible chemical reaction.\n\nNaawwwww.... the concrete sucks the life out.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":" \n \n(deletion)\n \n \nBogus. I just said that theism is not the only factor for fanatism.\nThe point is that theism is *a* factor.\n \n \n \nThat's a claim you have to support. Please note that especially in the\nfield of theism, the leaders believe what they say.\n \n \n \nThat's a straw man. And as usually in discussions with you one has to\nrepeat it: Read what I have written above: not every theism leads to\nfanatism, and not all fanatism is caused by theism. The point is,\nthere is a correlation, and it comes from innate features of theism.\n \nGullibility, by the way, is one of them.\n \n \nAnd to say that I am going to forbid religion is another of your straw\nmen. Interesting that you have nothing better to offer.\n \n \n \nThat's bogus. Self reference is not circular. And since the evaluation of\nusefulness is possible within rational systems, it is allowed.\n \nYour argument is as silly as proving mathematical statements needs mathematics\nand mathematics are therfore circular.\n \n \n \nI've been speaking of religious systems with contradictory definitions\nof god here.\n \nAn axiomatic datum lends itself to rational analysis, what you say here\nis a an often refuted fallacy. Have a look at the discussion of the\naxiom of choice. And further, one can evaluate axioms in larger systems\nout of which they are usually derived. \"I exist\" is derived, if you want\nit that way.\n \nFurther, one can test the consistency and so on of a set of axioms.\n \nwhat is it you are trying to say?\n \n \n \nUsing the traditonal definition of gods. Personal, supernatural entities\nwith objective effects on this world. Usually connected to morals and\/or\nthe way the world works.\n \n \n \nPerson A believes system B becuase it sounds so nice. That does not make\nB true, it is at best a work hypothesis. However, the content of B is that\nit is true AND that it is more than a work hypothesis. Testing or evaluating\nevidence for or against it  therefore dismissed because B (already believed)\nsays it is wronG\/ a waste  of time\/ not possible. Depending on the further\ncontents of B Amalekites\/Idolaters\/Protestants are to be killed, this can\nhave interesting effects.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n   >If this idea goes through, it's the thin end of the wedge.  Soon\n   >companies will be doing larger, and more permanant, billboards in the\n   >sky.  I wouldn't want a world a few decades from now when the sky\n   >looks like Las Vegas.  That would _really_ make me sad.\n\n   Think for a moment about the technology required to do that.  By \n   the time they could make the Earth's sky look like Las Vegas, \n   the people could afford to go backpacking on the Moon. Round\n   trip costs for 500 kg to the Moon would be about the same as\n   5000 kg in a Low Earth \"advertising\" orbit: Very roughly the\n   same cost as a smallish billboard, therefore. If such ads were\n   to become common place, that would have to be a very low price...\n\nThis is nonsense.  Its like saying that by the time commercials\non television become commonplace every citizen will have their own\nhour long nationally broadcast TV program.\n\n   There's always been a problem of having to get \n   away from civilization before you can really find \"natural\"\n   scenery. 100 years ago, this usually didn't take a trip\n   of over 5 miles. Today, most people would have to go 100 miles\n   or more. If we ever get to the point where we have billboards\n   on orbit, that essentially means that no place on Earth is still\n   \"wild.\" While that may or may not be a good thing, the orbital\n   billboards aren't the problem: They are just a symptom of \n   growing, densely-populated civilization. Banning such ads will\n   not save your view of the night sky, because by the time \n   such ads could become widespread you will probably have trouble\n   finding a place without street lights, where you can _see_\n   the stars...\n\nThe rest of your post is strange mishmash of \"its already really bad\"\nand \"it doesn't really matter if it gets worse.\"  You should try to\nfigure out what you are really arguing for.  (Kneejerk anti-environ-\nmentalism?)\n\n-david","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nIf you check the news today, (AP) the \"authorities also found a state-of-the-art\nautomatic machine gun that investigators did not know was in the cult's arsenal.\"\n[Carl Stern, Justice Department]\n\nI imagine the authorities know the difference between semi and fully automatic\nand probably knew weather the guns were legal as they have access to any relative\ndocumentation (i.e. permits).  In addition the .50 caliber guns (plural) were\nsemi-automatic rifles.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Here we are with the Sabres up 2-0 to the Bruins and the Sabres' farm\nteam, the Rochester Amerks, on their way to the Calder Cup (urp!) and\nwhat kind of hockey coverage are we getting? The same Penguins\/Devils\nevery other day crap that everyone else gets. What's worse, the\nSportsChannel coverage of the Islanders appears to be blocked out,\nsince we got CBA basketball last night, if you can believe it.  I\nassume the Sabres are demanding the SC blackout, not ESPN, since we\nare, unbelievably, usually considered part of the Islanders territory\n(MSG coverage of the Rangers is blacked out here). This despite being\na solid seven hours plus from Long Island.\n\nDoes anyone know what GRC is doing, besides putting their satellite\ndish up their ass and screwing my reception of channels 8, 10, and 13?\nDid Empire demand a fortune for the games? What about the games on\nFox37 (or whatever number it is there in Buffalo)? Has anyone phoned\nto complain (besides me)?\n\nGeorge\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"We just received an AppleOne Color Scanner for our lab.  However,\nI am having trouble getting reasonable scanned output when printing \na scanned photo on a LaserWriter IIg. I have tried scanning at a \nhigher resolution and the display on the screen appears very nice.  \nHowever, the printed version is coming out ugly!  \n\nIs this due to the resolution capabilities of the printer?  Or are \nthere tricks involved to get better quality?   Or should we be \ngetting something (like PhotoShop) to \"pretty up\" the image?\nI will appreciate any suggestions.\n\nThanks in advance,\n\n-Kris ","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\nCorrect, we have no parallax measurements on the bursts.\n\nTherefore, we can't tell whether they're slightly extra solar\nor not!\n\n(which means that parallax can't tell us whether or not it's real close.)\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"This week, many of you have asked about my earlier postings on OT, NT and\nIntertestiment exegesis on the homosexual issue.  I have refered you to the FAQ\nfiles, which I find out, no longer contains them.  They are too long for me to\nmail to each of you, each article, but will try to get them back on the FAQ\nfile.  \n\nBecause of the renewed interest on this subject, I will type, with permission,\nan article by James DeYoung.  I think it is one of the best articles that I've\nread todate from the conservative position.  I can't post it all at once, so it\nwill come piece meal and not daily.  After I'm done retyping the entire\narticle, I will make it available for the FAQ file.  Talk to clh.\n\nAlso, for those who can't get through to me, you may try one of these:\nREXLEX@FNAL.FNAL.GOV \nLEXREX@ALMOND.FNAL.GOV\nLoren Senders@ADMAIL.FNAL.GOV\n\n                              THE SOURCE AND NT MEANING\n                         OF ARSENOKOITAI, WITH IMPLICATIONS\n                         FOR CHRISTIAN ETHICS AND MINISTRY\n\n\n                                      James B. DeYoung\n                               Professor of New Testament\n                         Western Conservative Baptist Seminary\n                                      Portland, Oregon\n\n     Traditional interpretation of arsenokoitai (\"homosexuals\") in 1 Cor 6:9\nand 1 Tim 1:10 refers to sexual vice between people of the same sex,\nspecifically homosexualitiy.  Some restrict the term's meaning to \"active male\nprostititute,\" but stronger evidence supports a more general translation,\nnamely \"homosexuals.\"  More recently the definition \"homosexual\" has been\nopposed on clutural and linguistic grounds, the claim being that the term\n\"homosexuals\" is anachronistic.  In addition, criticism of the traditional\nrendering says the term today includes celibate homophiles, excludes\nheterosexuals who engage in homosexual acts, and includes female homosexuals. \nA concern for acts instead of the modern attention to desires was the only\nfactor in the ancient world.  The foregoing oppositition to the translation of\narsenokoitai by \"homosexuals\" has a number of debilitating weaknesses. \nFinally, this study argues that Paul coined the term arsenokoitai, deriving it\nfrom the LXX of Lev 20:12 (cf. 18:22) and using it for homosexual orientation\nand behavior, the latter of which should be an occasion for church discipline\n(I Cor 5-6) and legislation in society (1 Tim 1:8-11).\n\n                      *************************************\n\n                                   INTRODUCTION\n\n     Coincident with the rise of the gay rights movement in recent years has\nbeen an increasing focus on the biblical statements regarding homosexuality or\nsodomy.    As part of this focus, the meaning of the term arsenokoitai, used\ntwice by the apostle Paul (1 Cor 6:9,  I Tim 1:10), has received vigorous\nscrutiny.    This issue is particularly crucial to contemporary society since\nso much of modern ethics is shaped by biblical statements.  More particularly, \nthe concern over gay rights and the place of gays or homosexuals in the church\nand in society require the resolution of biblical interpretation.\n\n     This study of historical, linguistic, and literary matters will survey and\nevalutate recent proposals for the meaning of arsenokoitai and present evidence\nto point to a resolution.  Several writers and their positions represent the\nmodern debate on this word.  Three authors, Bailey, Boswell, and Scroggs, have\nprovoked considerable discussion and significantly encouraged the wider\nacceptance of the homosexual lifestyle in society, in the church, and in the\nministry. \n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Does anyone else make low radiation emission monitors besides NEC?\n\nHow do they compare to NECs (quality and emission-wise)?\n\nTIA,\n\nLes\n\n\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n        Interesting that Janet Reno has publically announced that\n        we need steal ourselves for more Wacos.  I wonder if I can\n        get the gasoline concession.\n\n\n\n\n     Yup.  Kill that bastard!\n\n\n\n\n     Ah, yes.  The ILLEGAL helicopter, searchign for the non-existent\n     PCP lab.  I remember it well, even if the media ( and y'all ) tell\n     me I don't.  Call me Winston.\n\n\n\n      Ahhh, yes.  The \"non-existent\" canisters.  Call me Winston again.\n\n\n\n     I did too, but for different reasons.  The FBI has a habit of burning\n     up people in fortified areas.\n\n\n\n\n      Yup.  Good.  Dead.  YEAH!   Maybe Janet will do some more, just\n      like she's promis, er, WARNED us about.\n\n      Like I told y'all before.  I would SERIOUSLY consider the following:","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nI believe it is illegal to send any cryptographic code out of the country\nwithout an export license. (Others will correct me if this is inaccurate.)\n\nDunno if you'd get one for the particular code you have; the only way to\nfind out is to apply for a license.\n\nNote that you need to distinguish between what is legal to send to Canada if\nYOU have such a license, and what is legal to send if you don't.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nAm I correct in assuming that the science instruments buffer their acquired\ndata in onboard RAM, which is then downloaded upon receipt of the MRO command?","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nThis is also being replied to via e-mail.  I dialed my university\nlibrarian, and he looked it up:\n\nLoma Linda University Medical Center\nLoma Linda, CA 92350\n\nI don't know an Internet address for them, but they can be reached by\ntelephone at (714) 824-4300.\n\nGood luck.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":": Hello\n\n: I've got an old Trident 8800CS SVGA card, but lacking suitable drivers\n: for windows 3.1. The drivers for the 8900 series seem to be incompatible.\n: Does anyone have an idea of where to get these drivers? Address for an\n: ftp-site would be nice. \n\n: Thanks in advance\n\n: Jouni\n\n: _______________________________________________________________________________\n: Jouni Marttila - Yo-kyl{ 11 B 25,  20540 Turku,  FINLAND - +358 21 374624____\n: jmarttila@abo.fi - jmarttila@finabo - abovax::jmarttila - jjmartti@utu.fi__\n: PGP-key available via finger jmarttila@abo.fi ___________________________\n\nYou can find the drivers at wuarchive.wustl.edu in the \/msdos\/windows3 sub-\ndirectory.  I think the files are called \"tvgawin31a.zip\" and \"tvgawin31b.zip.\"\nThose are the latest drivers available as far as I know.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nHere are the ones I can remember offhand:\n\n     KDKA    1020 AM   Pittsburgh Penguins\n     WABC     770 AM   New Jersey Devils\n     WBBM     780 AM   Chicago Blackhawks\n     WJM (?)  720 AM   Detroit Redwings\n     KMOX    1120 AM   St. Louis Blues\n\nAre the Flyers on 1210?\nThat's all I can think of.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nI've got a very nice collection of historical books on medical quackery,\nand on the topic of massage this is a recurring theme.  Ordinary massage\nis intended to make a person feel better, especially if they have muscular\nor joint problems.  But -- like chiropracty -- there are some practitioners\nwho take the technique to a far extreme, invoking what seems to me to be\nquack science to justify their technique.\n\nIn the case of massage, there is a technique called \"deep abdominal massage\"\nin which the masseur is literally attempting to massage the intestines!\nThe notion is that undigested food adheres to the inner surface of the\nintestines and putrifies, releasing poisons which cause various disease\nsyndromes.  By this vigorous and painful procedure, it is alleged that\nthese deposits can be loosened up and passed out.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"On the subject of the V4,Ford in the UK used V4 engines exstensively in\ntheir Ford Transit vans.This brings back a memory from the seventies.I\nplayed in a band at the time and for something like 180 pounds four of\nus bought a 1967 \"tranny\" to cart the gear around in.It was in terrible\nshape (cosmetically) because it's last owner was a pig farmer.We spent\ndays cleaning it up and putting in a partition and more seating but 'til\nthe day it died everytime you turned on the fan to the defroster dried\npig shit came flying out the vents!!!.\n    Back to the engine if I remember right it was a 1600cc V4 and that\nthing could haul,we could fill it with equipment and up to 8 people and\nit went like a bat out of hell,of course there were no pollution controls\non the engine and the gas was leaded and higher octane than we get now.\n    When the mechanical fuel pump quit we put in an electric one from a \nMorris Minor that worked great. Ah fond memories.\n\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\n        Heck, I seem to feel like that *every* time I eat out. Including \nin the cafeteria at work. About half the time, the headache intensifies \nuntil nothing will make it go away except throwing up. Ick.\n\n        As you might imagine, I don't eat out a lot. I guess my tolerance \nfor food additives has plummeted since I switched to eating mostly \nsteamed veggies. They're easy to fix, that's all.\n\n        I won't even mention what happened the last time I ate corned \nbeef. (Oops. Too late.)\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n( I AGREE ! )\n\n\n\n\tI think the problem here is that Mrs. Reno strikes me\n( After watching NightLine Last night ) as a person who is incapable\nof understanding OR dealing with a great number of things.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"The following comics are for auction.  The highest bid takes them! \n\n\nTITLE                                                   Minimum\/Current \n--------------------------------------------------------------\nAlpha Flight 51 (Jim Lee's first work at Marvel)\t$ 5.00\n\nAliens 1 (1st app Aliens in comics, 1st prnt, May 1988)\t$20.00\/KrisM.\/SOLD\n\nAmazing Spider-Man 136 (Intro new Green Goblin)         $20.00\n\nAmazing Spider-Man 238 (1st appearance Hobgoblin)\t$50.00\n\nArcher and Armstrong 1 (Frank Miller\/Smith\/Layton)\t$ 7.50\n\nAvengers 263 (1st appearance X-factor)                  $ 3.50\n\nBloodshot 1 (Chromium cover, BWSmith Cover\/Poster)\t$ 5.00\/Same\/THREE\n\nCyberRad 1 (Reintro CyberRad, Prestige silver edition)\t$15.00\n\nDaredevil 158 (Frank Miller art begins)                 $35.00\n\nDark Horse Presents 1 (1st app Concrete, 1st printing)\t$ 7.50 \n\nDetective 657 (Azrael appears, Intro Cypher)\t\t$ 5.00\n\nDetective 658 (Azrael appears)\t\t\t\t$ 4.00\n\nHarbinger 10 (1st appearance H.A.R.D. Corps)\t\t$ 7.00\/B.Matthey\/SOLD\n\nH.A.R.D. Corps 1 \t\t\t\t\t$ 5.00\n\nIncredible Hulk 324 (1st app Grey Hulk since #1 1962)\t$ 7.00\n\nIncredible Hulk 330 (1st McFarlane issue)\t\t$15.00\n\nIncredible Hulk 331 (Grey Hulk series begins)\t\t$11.00\n\nIncredible Hulk 367 (1st Dale Keown art in Hulk)        $15.00\n\nIncredible Hulk 377 (1st all new hulk, 1st prnt, Keown) $15.00\n\nMarvel Comics Presents 1 (Wolverine, Silver Surfer)     $ 7.50\n\nMarvel Presents (Charleston Chew giveaway, Sam Keith)\t$ 5.00\n\nMaxx Limited Ashcan (4000 copies exist, blue cover)\t$33.50\/BrentB\/SOLD\n\nMr T. #1 (Signed Advance copy, 10,000 exist)\t\t$10.00\n\nNew Mutants 86 (McFarlane cover, 1st app Cable - cameo)\t$10.00\n\nNew Mutants 100 (1st app X-Force)                       $ 5.00\n\nNew Mutants Annual 5 (1st Liefeld art on New Mutants)\t$10.00\n\nOmega Men 3 (1st appearance Lobo)                       $ 7.50\n\nOmega Men 10 (1st full Lobo story)                      $ 7.50\n\nPower Man & Iron Fist 78 (3rd appearance Sabretooth)    $20.00\n\nPower Man & Iron Fist 84 (4th appearance Sabretooth)    $15.00\n\nSimpsons Comics and Stories 1 (Polybagged special ed.)\t$ 7.50\n\nSpectacular Spider-Man 147 (1st app New Hobgoblin)      $12.50\n\nSpider-Man Special (UNICEF giveaway, vs Venom)\t\t$10.00\n\nStar Trek the Next Generation 1 (Feb 1988, DC mini)     $ 7.50\n\nStar Trek the Next Generation 1 (Oct 1989, DC comics)   $ 7.50\n\nTrianglehead #1 (Special limited edition, autographed)\t$ 5.00\n\nWeb of Spider-Man 29 (Hobgoblin, Wolverine appear)      $10.00 \n\nWeb of Spider-Man 30 (Origin Rose, Hobgoblin appears)   $ 7.50\n\nWolverine 10 (Before claws, 1st battle with Sabretooth)\t$15.00\n\nWolverine 41 (Sabretooth claims to be Wolverine's dad)\t$ 5.00\n\nWolverine 42 (Sabretooth proven not to be his dad)\t$ 3.50\n\nWolverine 43 (Sabretooth\/Wolverine saga concludes)\t$ 3.00\n\nWolverine 1 (1982 mini-series, Miller art)\t\t$20.00\n\nWonder Woman 267 (Return of Animal Man)                 $12.50\n\nX-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, X-Force card)     $20.00\n\nX-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Shatterstar card) $10.00\n\nX-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Deadpool card)    $10.00\n\nX-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Sunspot\/Gideon)   $10.00\n\n\nAll comics are in near mint to mint condition, are bagged in shiny \npolypropylene bags, and backed with white acid free boards.  Shipping is\n$1.50 for one book, $3.00 for more than one book, or free if you order \na large enough amount of stuff.  I am willing to haggle.\n\nI have thousands and thousands of other comics, so please let me know what \nyou've been looking for, and maybe I can help.  Some titles I have posted\nhere don't list every issue I have of that title, I tried to save space.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThis is something I've always found a little curious. I've never quite understood\nthe trinity thing. On the one hand, Jesus is supposed to be God incarnate. But,\nat the same time, he is God's son \"For God so loved the world that he gave his\nonly begotten son\". First question is, if Jesus was God in human form, how could\nhe really be God's son? If the Holy Ghost \"planted the seed\" in Mary, so to speak,\nthen it seems that Jesus' relationship to God would be the equivalent to the\nhuman father\/son relationship. While a son might inherit alot of the father's \nqualities, he is not the father. They are still two separite entities. To try\nand say that a son is the same person as the father is obviously wrong. In that\ncase, Jesus and God aren't the same. On the other hand, if their relationship\nisn't the same as the human father\/son relationship, but Jesus is actually God\nincarnate, then he's not really God's son and he never was. He's just God\nmanifesting himself as Jesus. At least, this is how I'm seeing it. Can someone\nwho is more knowledgeable about the trinity enlighten us? \n\nGetting back to the original question, what is the great price that Jesus paid\nto redeem our sins? Was it dying on the cross? Since Jesus knew that he would\nrise again in 3 days and then ascend back to heaven, I have a hard time seeing\nhow this is considered paying such a great price for humanity. His earthly body\nmay have been killed, but then, so what? He suffered a few hours of physical\npain, but then, there has been many a human who has suffered a great deal more.\nThe fact that Jesus was God's only begotten son doesn't seem to me to have much\nmeaning since God can beget as many sons as he wants to. Jesus being the only\none was simply a matter of choice. I suspect that these questions will be very\noffensive to many Christians on this net. To those people, please accept my\nsincere apologies. It is not my intention to offend or to trivialize Christ.\nBut, I do believe these are legitimate questions and I am genuinely curious.\n \n[Note that the Trinity and Incarnation have to be looked at together.\nFirst, your reading of the Virgin Birth is an uncommon one.  (In this\ngroup, it's dangerous to say that no one believes something.)  You\nseem to be suggesting the Jesus is God's son in a physical sense,\nwith the Holy Spirit as Father and Mary as Mother.  I consider that\nterrible heresy, though some people react less violently.  The Virgin\nBirth says that Jesus' birth is God's responsibility.  But it doesn't\nimply that God's sperm was involved.  Indeed one (though by no means\nthe only) speculation is that God used Joseph's genetic material.\n\nSecond, Jesus is in some sense doubly indirect from the Father.  In a\nTrinitarian context, the term Son refers to the eternal Logos, who is\na part of God.  The Son didn't come into existence with Jesus' birth.\nJesus is the incarnation of the Son.  So his sonness isn't\nspecifically a result of being incarnated.  Rather, it's the Son\nwho was incarnated.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nThis was a concession to Mansbridge and CBC News, they argued that if you're\ngoing to play  havoc with the schedule, you should  at least make sure that\nPrime Time is aired as soon as possible. News got a commitment that the\npost-game show would be scrapped and that the network would go to PTN within\none minute or so of the game  ending.\n\nAs for the earlier comments about CBC being \"Ontariocentric\" frankly\nthe no doubleheader decison goes both ways, people in the West cant  see\nthe Leafs  and people in Central Canada can't see the Jets game. The\nreason for the decision was CBC's feeling they couldn't sell advertising\nfor six hours of hockey in  one night.\n\n As for who wants to see news over hockey, a lot of people. CBC always gets\nplenty of complaints about juggling the news schedule.\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I'm looking for recommendations for a laser printer.  It will\nbe used mostly for text by a single user.  It doesn't need to\nbe a postscript printer.  Any advice would be appreciated.\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nCharlie Brett's suggestion -- buy one of the disposable flash cameras, use\nthe film, then take the thing apart -- is a good one.  Note, though, that\nyou won't get a particularly precise voltage out of such a thing, and it\nmay be a single-point design that won't adapt well to off-nominal operation.\n\nThe things are easy to dismantle.  The key piece of information is that\nwhen you advance the film on one of them, you are winding it *into* the\nfilm cassette -- it is unwound from the cassette in the factory, when\nthe camera is made.  So no darkroom is needed for dismantling.  It's\nstandard film, so just take the cassette in for processing.\n\nAll the camera-store people do when you bring in one of the disposables\nis rip it apart, toss the film cassette into the to-be-processed bin,\nand throw the battery in one trashcan and the rest of the camera in\nanother.  If you take it apart yourself, you get an AA alkaline battery\n(still with a fair bit of life in it) and all kinds of little bits and\npieces from the camera.\n\nI expect you could even re-load and re-use the camera if you were really\ndetermined.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nWell, they never should have gotten into this situation.\n\nLook at the history of this group. David Koresh has been arrested\n?twice?  by local police. Both times, he accepted the arrest warrant\nand went peacefully. So, the feds decide to arrest him. How do they\nchoose to arrest a person with a record of peaceful obedience under\narrest? They throw a concussion grenades at his building. \n\nIn addition, we KNOW that we've been lied to. Initially, we were told\nthat they suspected him of molesting children and having several\nwives. But these are NOT ATF offenses, were they? So they changed\ntheir story, several times. And the original warrant is STILL sealed.\nAnd we were told about the rockets and ammunition they had... but did\nanyone notice any ammo exploding in the fire? They claimed that Koresh\nhadn't left the compound in months... but people in town report seeing\nhim just a week before the raid.\n\nHow would I have handled it differently? \n\nWell, first, I haven't seen any evidence that the BDs did anything\nwrong. There's a sealed warrant, and a collection of stories which\nkeep changing about what they did. So I might not have done ANYTHING.\n\nOK. Now, supposing that I know what the BDs are being arrested for.\nWell, they've got a history of accepting arrests... so, I send\nofficers to the door with a warrant. Wearing bulletproof vests.\nCovered from a distance by sharpshooters. Now, there's no good reason\nto suspect that these people will do anything, right? Why didn't\nanyone TRY serving a warrant?\n\nOK. Going further. They refuse the warrant. It becomes necessary to\nraid. You plan a raid. You hear an hour before that there was a leak,\nand they know your coming. SO what do you do?  Well, change your\nplans, right? Nope... they go ahead with it anyone... including\nsending in unprotected men to break into the place. It was idiotic. I\ndon't know what I would have ended up doing. But that original raid\nshould NEVER have happened.\n\nThe shit that came later should NEVER have happened.\n\nThe full record of the raid should be released to the public to let us\nknow what the hell really happened there.\n\nThe lies should NEVER have been told.\n\n\t<MC>","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I am urgently looking for the following article, but I can't seem to\nfind it anywhere here:\n\n     \"The Multi-Threaded X Server\"\n     John Allen Smith\n     The X Resource\n        Issue 1, pp. 73-89, Winter 1992\n\nIf anyone can tell me where to find it, it WILL be much appreciated.\n\nH.F. Sadie\nDepartement of Computer Science\nUniversity of Stellenbosch\nSouth Africa","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":": In article <1993Apr22.170418.15799@news.eng.convex.com> gardner@convex.com\n\n...cascades elided to preserve our sanity....\n\n: That wasn't my point. My point is that your implied position about the \"Waco\n: Massacre\" is an assertion cum political position. According to a CNN poll,\n....\n: What you call the \"Big Brother Chip\" is right now a proposal under\n: discussion, and it is not yet clear that strong crypto is going to be\n: banned.\n\nJust to set the record straight, Steve Gardner was not the author of\nthe bit you quoted--I was. Steve just took issue with David's\ncharacterization of my words as \"pernicious nonsense.\"\n\nI won't further comment on my own views...folks either support 'em or\nthey don't, and the lines in question were neither central to the\npoints I was making in my original post nor to the important debate\nhere in sci.crypt and elsewhere.\n\n\n-Tim May, who continues to hold the same views but doesn't feel like\ndebating politics\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":": \n: >Recently my cousin got a second internal IDE drive (a Seagate 210MB,\n: >I can look up the model number if it's important) and I've been\n: >trying to help him install it.  [I've got a vested interest, since\n: >my machine's busted and I have to use his until I get mine fixed.]\n: >He already has a Seagate 85MB IDE HD (again, I forget the model number\n: >but I can find out.)\n: \n: >Anyway, I can't seem to get the bloody thing up.  I've managed to get\n: >one or the other drive up (with the other disconnected), but not both\n: >at the same time; whenever I try, the thing hangs during bootup -\n: >never gets past the system test.  The IDE controller's instruction\n: >sheet says it supports two drives; I think I've configured the CMOS\n: >correctly; the power's plugged in properly; I even learned about the\n: >master\/slave relationship that two HDs are supposed to have (didn't\n: >know PCs were into S&M! 8^) and I think I configured the jumpers\n: >properly (the 85MB one is the master, the new 210MB one is the slave).\n: \n[deleted]\n:\n: >Many, many thanks in advance!  This is practically an emergency (I have\n: >two papers to do on this thing for Monday!)!  Help!\n: >-- \n: >-----------------------\n: >William Barnes         SURAnet Operations\n: >wbarnes@sura.net       (301) 982-4600 voice  (301) 982-4605 fax\n: >Disclaimer:  I don't speak for SURAnet and they don't speak for me.\n: I've been told by our local computer guru that you can't do this unless you \n: perform a low level format on your existing hard drive and set your system \n: up for two hard drives from the beginning.  I took him at his word, and I \n: have not tried to find out any more about it, because I'm not going to back \n: everything up just to add another HDD.  If anyone knows for sure what the \n: scoop is, I would like to know also.  Thanks in advance also.\n: \n: Bill Willis\n: \n\n1. do not do a low level format on an IDE drive unless you have the\n   executable for doing so supplied by the manufacturer.  These are\n   available from bbs's or mail but the mail version costs a nominal\n   fee.\n\n2. In addition to the master\/slave jumper on an IDE drive there is also\n   another jumper to indicate whether a slave is present.  Get it right!\n\n3. The cabling is not an issue as long as pin 1 goes to pin 1 goes to\n   pin 1.  No twisting or swapping on an IDE cable.  Be sure of pin 1\n   on all three components - do not make assumptions (guesses are ok\n   but assumptions are bad).\n\n4. If the cable and jumpers are correct, and the CMOS setup is correct,\n   then you may have to do an FDISK followed by a high level format.\n   I have NEVER personally found this necesary, but perhaps there is\n   something gone wrong with the data on the disks?  Probably not but\n   I understand your predicament - You will probably throw salt over\n   your shoulders, wear funny clothes and do a spooky sounding chant\n   while dancing around the room if someone said it might help.\n\nGood Luck","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nWhat???  I heard there was a new engine slated for the mustang...something\nlike 280hp  (ok, it was from one of their other lines...)...\n\n-- ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
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{"text":"\nWOW!  Another Clayton wannabe.  Typical response: lack of logic.\n\nDefine 'deviant':  someone who deviates from the normal.  Ok, so far.\nDefine 'normal':   erm, umm.  If you define yourself as normal then it is for\nyou to prove that you are (within limits, which then brings in the question,\nwhat are the limits?  For you we may have to broaden them to other's intolerance\n;-) ) 'normal'.  Difficult to prove.  From what you have posted it must follow\nthat `normal` to you means someone without compassion and a sense of justice.\nBut it does look as if you went to the Clayton school of logic, doesn't it?\n\n\nAgain an astounding lack of logic!  Wow!\n\nYou must define what you say such that everyone agrees.  Here you have used\nthe phrase \"sexual deviant\".  How in the hell do you define that?  As someone\nwho does something sexually that _you_ don't?  By this definition you most\nprobably mean the majority of the planet.  How do you know that your next\ndoor neighbour doesn't like custard to be spread over his genetalia then\nhave it licked off by his wife?  Is this sexual deviancy?  How do we know\nthat you don't like something sexually which others may find repulsive?  Is \nhaving sex doggy fashion a sexual deviancy?  Please be more specific, and\nwhere you do, back up your claims.  Or I may have to go to hospital due to\nlaughing too much at yours and Clayton's postings.\n\nSecondly, if we assume for the moment that the phrase 'sexual deviant' means\nsuch people as homosexuals, bisexuals &c. (basically everyone you don't like),\nI think that your phrase \"do not comprise a `political minorit[y]`\" (why the\nbrackets?) is a non-sequiteur.  Gay groups exist which lobby their governments.\nThat is a fact.  Prove it false.  Hence they are a politial group.  You \nstate that they are not a political minority.  Are they therefore a\npolitical majority?  I think you boobed really big on this one.  Try thinking\nabout your arguments.\n\n\nProve the first statement please.   Dates, phone numbers, &c.\n\nAgain your logic fails.  Again you make statements which you cannot\n(and most probably will not) maintain.\n\nYou state that a person (girl, in this context) who considers equal rights\nfor all humans to be an airhead?  As Clayton (your best mate?) would say:\nit just shows how screwed up you are.\n\n \n\nProof please.  Proof that homosexuality is not part of the natural order.\nProof that nature has always asserted itself.  Are you saying that nature\nis a conciousness?  Are you pretending that you have the ability to see the\nfuture?  Are you god(tm)?  In fact, by your arguement, are you waiting for \nthe black people to become slaves again?  Because they were reviled as\nsub-human (nb: *not* my view) at one time?  Again your arguement falls\non its ass.\n\n\n\nTouchy touchy touchy!\n\nRight.  I have shot holes in each and every one of your arguements.  You are\nmost probably going to put me in your kill file because you have no answers\nto my questions and challenges.  Since you cannot support your arguments it\nmerely goes to show that what you write is based upon your personal prejudices,\nand cannot be taken to be fact of any kind.\n\nI await an intelligent response.....\n\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n  mark> *WE* are the ones in control of what we use.  It is those who\n  mark> follow like blind sheep which cause the markets to skew.  I'm sure\n  mark> there will be enough \"paid market hipe NT conferences\" without it\n  mark> needing to be in what was once a conference for open windowing\n  mark> enviroments.  I know that if I were planning to go I would cancel.\n  mark> NOT because I have my eyes closed, but because NT does not belong\n  mark> at such a conference.  I would, however, like to go to a CLOSED\n  mark> environment NT conference to see the product because I am curious.\n  mark> I doubt, however, based on the objective opinions of those I trust,\n  mark> that I would be impressed.  --\n\nWhy do many (?) people believe that Xhibition '93 is one of the \"paid\nmarket hype NT conferences\" (as you put it)? I for one am going, because\nI, too, am curious about the technology. I think this is a great chance\nto learn about NT, mainly because:\n\n  - It will be presented in X's \"home turf\". I believe that the attendees\n    will mostly have X backgrounds (biases? :-); thus, I expect that the\n    NT presentations will face a tough audience.\n\n  - I can be there in person to judge for myself whether or not NT is what\n    it is hyped to be. This is as closely as I can get to in evaluating the\n    NT technology without actually using it myself, which I don't have the\n    time to do.\n\n  - If NT turns out to be a vapor technology and I get bored, there will be\n    many other interesting tutorials\/presentations that I won't have to\n    waste my time ... in California?!?  :-)\n\nJust my thoughts...\n--","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"...\n\nI have seen it used in an Orthodox church once, although I can't recall why.\nI found it odd, to say the least.  Also, I object to the statement that the\nOrthodox DELETE the filioque from the original form of the Creed.\n\nThe creed originally did NOT contain that phrase, and it is not present\nin the Greek original, which hangs by my desk.  Not intending to start a\nflame war.  We didn't need to delete what wasn't there.\n\nLarry Overacker (llo@shell.com)\n-- ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"RIDING\"?            >> \n\n\nHere in Louisiana the State Sign is \"CAUTION - SUB-STANDARD ROADWAY\".\n\n ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====----","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Wm Hathaway comments;\n\n\n\nI agree that the desire for beauty is valid, but I think your desire to\nimpose your vision of beauty is not.  You mention the age-old desire to\nsomehow get up there, but ignore the beauty of the actual achievment\nof that vision.  You mention the beauty of a very dark sky, not impeded\nby the effects of humans, but ignore the beauty of the as-dark-as-can-be\nsky that is only visible from space, a vision that we, or at least,\nour descendents, may one day be able to see, in part, because of efforts\nthat others call ugly.  One day, I hope, humans will be able to look out,\nnot upon half the heavens, with only nature-creted lights, but upon all\nof the heavens, with no lights.  If advertising in space can help us reach\nthat goal, it is no less beautiful for the way we reach it, than the\n'pristine' sky of yesteryear (or yester-century), which is totally\nunreachable.  One of the original conceptions of beauty in wetsern\nsculpture was a human form, in the effort of striving to reach a goal.\nI don't think there's any reason to believe that modernity has changed that,\njust because it has changed the way we strive.\n\nBTW, there are places that people haven't fouled.  Sometimes they make\nit better.\n\n-Tommy Mac\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTom McWilliams 517-355-2178 wk   \\\\ As the radius of vision increases,\n18084tm@ibm.cl.msu.edu 336-9591 hm \\\\ the circumference of mystery grows.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Ok, so in my ongoing search for a sport utility, here's the latest;\n\n\nToyota 4runner:\n\n\t Small. Small Small Small. The interior of this vehical is impossible\n\tfor a large person. Too bad; it would have been the winner otherwise.\n\nNissan Pathfinder:\n\t\n\tVery low ceiling. My head hit the roof, Fun on bumps, no? Also has\n\ta cheap-looking interior.\n\nIsuzu Trooper:\n\n\tClass act. This is a really, really nice vehical. Very comfortable,\n\thandled ok. Has really cool grab handles EVERYWHERE. But it's huge,\n\tand the engine is a bit too small for it's bulk; also the manual shift is \n\tweird and kind of awkward. I'd buy this if it were $3k cheaper or 10\"\n\tshorter. But at this size and for this price, no. I kept picturing trying to \n\tpark in in San Francisco. No Thanks.\n\n\nChevy Blazer:\n\n\tCheap looking. Small. Not as small as the Toyota and Nissan, but still \n\ttoo small.\n\nFord Explorer:\n\n\tThis is no sports car, and it's certainly not for the serious off roader.\n\tBut it's big enough to be comfortable without being as huge and heavy as the\n\ttrooper. It's engine has plenty of power for everyday driving, though it would\n\tbe nice if it had a *bit* more. The automatic tranny is pretty nice; head and\n\tshoulders above my '90 mazda MPV. The steering is not as tight as I'd like,\n\tbut it's acceptable. The two door has easy-to-enter back seats (Easier to get\n\tinto, in fact, than the driver's seat of the 4runner!) and with a 10\" shorter\n\twheelbase and the easier availability of a manual tranny, (Yes, I'm a manual \n\tshift biggot, I admit it...) it's the one I'm thinking of buying. \n\n\n\tSo, that said, is there anyone out there who has one of these and hates it?\n\tAnyone had any major problems? Heard any horror stories? \n\n\tAlso, any reason to buy the ford over the mazda Navajo, both being essentially\n\tthe same vehical?\n\n\n\t\t\tThanks-\n\n\n\t-Karl","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"How did the Leafs turn it around??? \n\n\nI couldn't get the Leaf games on the weekend in CA.\n\nDid the Leaf defense wise up overnight?\nDid the Leafs get in the slot or \nwas it just \"fluke\" goals in a goalie duel? \nDid the Wings turn off the jets or muscle?  \nWhat gives here?\n\nI caught game 1 on satellite.  I figured my Leafs were washed.\nThis is a _major_ turnaround.   Very few predicted this. \nHow, how, how did it happen?   \n\nWing and Leaf perspectives welcomed!\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I just got a bug report and a fix for this exact problem from\nfisher@iscp.bellcore.com (Greg Fisher):\n\n\nHe isolated the problem a proposed a workaround which seems precisely\ncorrect.  Here is the new implementation of XmpTableNewProposedLayout\nwhich will be released with the next update in 5 weeks:\n\nXmp\/Table.c:\n\nvoid XmpTableNewProposedLayout( tw )\n    XmpTableWidget tw;\n{\n    XmpTableConsiderSameSize(       tw );\n    XmpTableProposedColsAndRows(    tw );\n    XmpTableQueryParentForResize(   tw );    \/* query only, no resize *\/\n\n    \/*\n     * Since we only made a query, we *should* still need to continue.\n     * However, Motif is broken so that we actually may already have\n     * been resized.  In that case, the proposed layout is already\n     * forgotten, so we should just quietly exit.\n     *\/\n    if ( tw->table.resize_status == RSdueToRequest )\n    {\n        XmpTableMakeColsFitQueryWidth(  tw );\n        XmpTableMakeRowsFitQueryHeight( tw );\n        XmpTableGetProposedChildSize(   tw );\n        XmpTableSaveProposedLayout(     tw );\n    }\n    \/* else the resize has already been done.  Our proposed layout would\n     * have been forgotten in the process.\n     *\/\n}\n\nThe XpTable the fix is identical, except of course for the names:\n\nXp\/Table.c:\n\nvoid XpTableNewProposedLayout(  tw )\n    XpTableWidget  tw;\n{\n    XpTableConsiderSameSize(       tw );\n    XpTableProposedColsAndRows(    tw );\n    XpTableQueryParentForResize(   tw );    \/* query only, no resize *\/\n    \/*\n     * Since we only made a query, we *should* still need to continue.\n     * However, some manager widgets are broken so that we actually may\n     * already have * been resized.  In that case, the proposed layout\n     * is already forgotten, so we should just quietly exit.\n     *\/\n    if ( tw->table.resize_status == RSdueToRequest )\n    {\n        XpTableMakeColsFitQueryWidth(  tw );\n        XpTableMakeRowsFitQueryHeight( tw );\n        XpTableGetProposedChildSize(   tw );\n        XpTableSaveProposedLayout(     tw );\n    }\n    \/* else the resize has already been done.  Our proposed layout would\n     * have been forgotten in the process.\n     *\/\n}\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------\nDavid Smyth\t\t\t\tdavid@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov\nSenior Software Engineer,\t\t(818)306-6193 (do NOT use v-mail yet!)\nCCCP, X and Object Guru.\t\toffice: 525\/C165\nJet Propulsion Lab, M\/S 525-3660 4800 Oak Grove Drive, Pasadena, CA 91109\n------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n\t\"That Sun Windows thingy, what's it called?  You know, its\n\treally awful.  X?  Motif?  That's it - Motif! Yuck!\"","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":" \n\nI once heard an arguement from a xtian friend similar to this.\n\"Christianity is a Higher Logic.  Athiest like u will not be able\nto understand it.  Your atheist logic is very low.  Only thru faith can \nwe understand the Higher Logic in God\".\n\nSo I asked him, \"So what is this Higher Logic?\"\n\nHis answer, \"I don't know.\"\n\nThis, & the posting above highlights one of the worst things about\nxtainity.  It is abundantly clear to both atheists & xtains that\ntheir believe is both illogical & irrational.  Their tactics, therefore:\nto disregard logic & rationality altogether.  Silly excuses such as\nthe ones above and those such as, \"How can u trust science, science\nwas invented by man!\", only goes to further show the weakness of\ntheir religion.\n\nIn my country where xtainity was and still is rapidly growing, xtains\nnever try to convert people by appealing to their brains or senses.\nThey know it would be a fruitless act, given the irrational nature\nof their faith.\nThey would wait until a person is in distress, then they would comfort\nhim\/her and addict them to their emotional opium.\n\nNever in my life had I met a person who converted to xtainity coz it's\n\"reasonable\".  Rationality has no place in xtainity (see xtian arguement\nagainst \"reason\" above).\n\n--\n\nThe UnEnlightened One\n------------------+--------------------------------------------------------\n                  | \nTan Chade Meng    | The wise man tells his wife that he understands her.\nSingapore         | \ncmtan@iss.nus.sg  | The fool tries to prove it. \n                  | \n------------------+--------------------------------------------------------\n\n\n--","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Does anyone know where I can find a code which would take concave\npolygons and break them up into a set of convex polygons?\n\nThanks,","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nA quick search of the index at mac.archive.umich.edu shows the following as\navailable by anonymous ftp from that site:\n\n\/mac\/util\/developer\/diagnosticsoundsampler.hqx\n   9     7\/24\/90    BinHex4.0\n \n   That \"chord\" you hear when you push the start-up on your Mac II\n   means more than just \"I'm on\". it's passed it's internal test.\n   This utility explains what the various sounds stand for (i.e.\n   various stages of ram testing...)\n \n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nCould an atheist accept a usage in which religious literature or\ntradition is viewed in a metaphorical way?  Of course: this is\nessentially what we do with Homer, or with other concepts such as\nfate, luck, free will ;-)...  However, there remains the question of\nwhether the religious literature of -- say -- Christianity is a\nparticularly *good* set of metaphors for the world today.  It's also\nentirely unclear, and to me quite unlikely, that one could take a\ncontemporary religion like that and divorce the metaphoric potential\nfrom the literalism and absolutism it carries now in many cases.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"**********\n\nHitachi CD player (needs cd spin motor) $30 shipped \n\n  JoYSTICKS..\n\n\tan IBM\/apple joystick three fire buttons\n\tapple joy stick (\/\/c \/\/e)\n\tkraft track ball  make offers..\n\ncoleco vision items:\n\n\ttwo working Consoles w\/ working controllers in great shape\n\tone roller ball controller\n\ttwo Super ACtion conrollers\n\tone 'standard' joystick\n\ngames:\n\tSA baseball\n\tSA rocky\n\tSA football\n\nVIc 20 and C64 with powersupplies and RF modulators... make an offer\n\nVic20 Catridges:  Raid on Fort Knox - Omega Race\n\n******\n\nEarly 80's Epiphone Acoustic guitar\nspruce top.. mohogany back, sides and neck\n\nadjustable bridge, plays very nice\n\nsmall hole in side for jack (had a pickup at one time)\n\n$175 + shipping\n\n******\n\nYamaha CS-5 ANalog synthesizer\n\nThree octave keyboard\n\nVCO - single oscillator range from 64' to 2'\n\nTone sources - Saw tooth, square, noise and external sound \n\nVCA - can be modulated\n\nVCF - Cut off, resonance, LFO MOD, envelope generator depth\n\npitch bend slider, CV in and out, trigger in and out, external\ntone source in...  the keyboard is in perfect working order and\nis colored black and white\n\n$150 + shipping\n\n**********\nDRUM stuff..\n\nNorth heavy Duty hi hat stand $45  \n\tolder stand... but definately in working shape.. could\n\tuse a little clean up.  comes with clutch and felts, etc..\n\nPearl bass drum pedal with felt beater $20 \n\nhoner cymbal stand $15 (needs some work on cymbal stem)\n\nZildjian 20\" Ride cymbal  $55 \n\tmain line zildjian... older ride cymbal\n\nLudwig snare stand $10\n\tokay snare stand.. NOT like a remo though ;) \n\n\nshipping extra.. please email\n\nif you have questions about anything, please email me\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n    James Madison, Federalist Paper 41:\n\n    \"It has been urged and echoed, that the power ``to lay and\n     collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises, to pay the debts,\n     and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the\n     United States,'' amounts to an unlimited commission to exercise\n     every power which may be alleged to be necessary for the common\n     defense or general welfare...\n\n    \"No stronger proof could be given of the distress under which\n     these writers labor for objections, than their stooping to such a\n     misconstruction.  Had no other enumeration or definition of the\n     powers of the Congress been found in the Constitution, than the\n     general expressions just cited, the authors of the objection\n     might have had some color for it; ...  But what color can the\n     objection have, when a specification of the objects alluded to by\n     these general terms immediately follows, and is not even\n     separated by a longer pause than a semicolon?  ...  Nothing is\n     more natural nor common than first to use a general phrase, and\n     then to explain and qualify it by a recital of particulars.\n-- ","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nOn a related note (since UPS lost my Chain Wax and I'm still using PJ-1\/Goo),\nI found some great stuff to clean chain spooge of wheels.  It's called\nGoo Gone and cleaned the spooge off my rear wheel faster than the Simple\nGreen cleaned the bug guts off my headlight.  Wonderful stuff.  I recommend\nthat we officially delcare it a DoD Wonder Spooge (tm) product.\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nNone of the SUNs, DECs, or RS6000s I've used have turned off the\nmonitor automatically.\n\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":" >there's no problem. The Feds don't care whose phone instrument is used, just\n >that the conversation is by the suspect on the tapped line. They get the\n >serial number, get the keys, and they are in business.\n\n  So, you admit that Clipper opens the doors wide for the following scenario:\n\n  FEDS: We need the keys to Joe Blow's phone.\n\n  ESCROW AGENT: Joe Blow?  You have a warrant to tap his line?\n\n  FEDS: Well, no, but we have a warrant to tap Carlos \"Slime-Devil\" Gonzales'\n     line, and our tap shows that Mr. Gonzales is using Mr. Blow's phone.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Yesterday, a friend of mine got a new driver for his card that more\nthan doubled the speed... Naturally, besides being a tad jealous (same \nmachine -- different cards), it got me thinking... What if I am using a slow\ndriver? Wouldn't that be _horrible_ ? :) So netlanders, I need samples of\nyour collective experience (sic) -- Do you proud owners of a Trident 8900C\nvideo card w\/ 1MB VRAM have tried out more than one driver fro MS Win 3.1\nwhich? which is the fastest? Not to be selfish, and to give you a motive\nfor responding, I promise I am going to collect all the answers, and the\nactual drivers (provided u give me a site to get it from or uuencode&mail)\nget the WinMarks using PC Magazine`s WinBENCH and... post the results here...\nI am interested in SVGA drivers only (plain VGA users should run the Win\ndriver, or this is what I 've heard -- dont flame me!) Particularly\n800x600x16 and\/or 800x600x256 (that should cover the majority of SVGA users)\nWell, what are you waiting for? hit that r or f or whatever...\nAll input welcome -- so are money and Sun SPARCstations...\nThanx in advance...\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nFine. I'll buy from George. GEORGEEE!!!!\n\nThat assumes I can't weasel out a cooperative venture of some sort (cut me a\nbreak on the launcher, I'll cut you in on the proceeds if it works).  Only the\ngovernment pays higher-than-list price. \n\n\nUnless you're Martin Marietta, since (as I recall) they bought out the GD line\nof aerospace products. \n\nIf MM\/GD does it as an in-house project, their costs would look much better\nthan buying at \"list price.\"  Does anyone REALLY know the profit margins built\nin to the Titan?  C'mon. Allen is telling us how cheap we can get improved this\nor that... \n\n\nOh please.  How much of a profit do you want?  Pulling $100-150 million after\nall is said and done wouldn't be too shabby.  Not to mention the other goodies\nI'll collect in:\n\n\ta)  Movie & TV rights (say $100-150 million conservatively)\n\tb)  Advertising       (\"Look Mommie, they're drinking Coke!\")\n\tc)  Intangibles\t      (Name recognization, experience & data \n\t\t\t\tacculumated)\n\n\nIf you want lean, fine.  A $500 million prize would be more than adequate for a\nprize.\n\nMaybe Wales would be kind enough to define what a company would consider\na decent profit.\n\nIf you want R&D done, you'll have to write in R&D clauses.  I suppose you could\nmake it a SBIR set-aside :)  \n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I am looking for a copy of the first World Wrestling Federation album in\nRecord format.  Will pay $10 for a good condition record and original\nalbum jacket and inserts.  The album I am looking for has a picture of\na bunch of the wrestlers ina recording studio front and back with the\ngood guy wrestlers and the bad guy wrestlers making faces at each other.\nSongs include 'Land of a thousand dances\" or something like that.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nI'll leave questions 1 and 2 to be answered elsewhere, but on question 3)\nsomething in the noos today might be an example of the restoration might be.\nNamely, that the Clinton Administration is considering asking the UN to \nestablish a police force for Haiti.\n\nI didn't hear any thing that said that the current Govt. of Haiti asked for it,\nnor is there any real precedent (barring Somalia) for the UN getting involved\nin internal conflicts.\n\nThat might also answer question 2). The neo-colonial countries are a diffuse\nlot - the UN (Security Council).\n\nAnd while I am at it, I'll take a stab at 1) - the new colonialism, as defined in\nmost articles I have read, would entail something of the nature of Trusteeship\nunder the UN Sec. Council, democracy, aid, education, free-markets, free press\nand then out for the colonialists, now assured that there is a \"civilized\" \ncountry that they have left behind.\n\nNote I don't support this idealized concept, simply because I think it is a\nlot of hogwash.\n\n-- \nSrinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu\n\nIf The University of Illinois shares these views, I'd be surprised.\nThey aren't that smart generally -:).","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nThe major problem with this analysis is that it ignores age.  Even if\nMorris were performing as well as Clemens right now, and were likely to\nthis season, nobody would trade Clemens for Morris straight up because\nClemens has more of his career left.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Here are the standings after game 2 of each of the divisional semi-final\nseries.\n\n\t- Andrew\n\nUSENET Hockey Playoff Draft Standings\n\nPosn\tTeam\t\t\t\tPts\tRem\tLast Posn\n\n1.\tSneddon Scorers                 77\t25\t(1)\n2.\tArctic Circles                  75\t25\t(75)\n\tNorthern Lights                 75\t25\t(33)\n\tThreepeat                       75\t25\t(19)\n5.\tfighting amish                  74\t25\t(161)\n\tTeam Elvis                      74\t25\t(11)\n7.\tchris roney                     73\t25\t(33)\n\tMyers Marauders                 73\t25\t(--)\n\tthe dead ducks                  73\t25\t(11)\n10.\tLes Poteux                      72\t25\t(--)\n\tSludge                          72\t25\t(75)\n\tPaige Faults                    72\t25\t(33)\n\tSam & His Dogs                  72\t25\t(33)\n\tThe Borg                        72\t25\t(2)\n\tHurricane Andrew                72\t25\t(4)\n\tLewey's Lakers                  72\t25\t(102)\n\tEinstien's Punk Band            72\t25\t(9)\n18.\tHomesick Hawaiian               71\t25\t(4)\n\tTest Department                 71\t25\t(11)\n\tSamuel Lau (Calgary, Alberta)   71\t25\t(127)\n\tMopar Muscle Men                71\t25\t(33)\n\tJerky Boys                      71\t24\t(4)\n\tGB Flyers                       71\t25\t(19)\n24.\tNeural Netters                  70\t25\t(102)\n\tgive you money monday           70\t25\t(9)\n\tBill McGreer                    70\t25\t(--)\n\tFugazi                          70\t25\t(33)\n\tDetroit Homeboy                 70\t25\t(11)\n\tBloom County All-Stars          70\t25\t(54)\n\tDehraDun Maawalis               70\t25\t(75)\n31.\tGreat Expectations              69\t25\t(4)\n\tPURDUE RICKS PENS               69\t25\t(19)\n33.\tfrank's little wankers          68\t25\t(33)\n\tJan Stein                       68\t25\t(33)\n\tAllez les Blues                 68\t25\t(--)\n\tGoaldingers                     68\t25\t(75)\n\tsuds                            68\t25\t(19)\n\tweenies                         68\t25\t(33)\n\tA.P. BURY                       68\t25\t(19)\n\tBruce's Rented Mules            68\t25\t(4)\n41.\tMind Sweepers                   67\t25\t(33)\n\tMike Burger                     67\t25\t(11)\n\tGo Flames                       67\t25\t(--)\n\tgarryola                        67\t25\t(33)\n\tThe Mulberry Maulers            67\t25\t(75)\n\tLIPPE                           67\t25\t(102)\n\tFlamming Senators               67\t25\t(19)\n\tBig Bay Bombers                 67\t25\t(102)\n\tMilton Keynes Kings             67\t25\t(33)\n50.\tSeppo Kemppainen                66\t25\t(19)\n\tFreddy Beach Rockets            66\t25\t(--)\n\tThe Campi Machine               66\t25\t(19)\n\tj's rock'em sock'ems            66\t25\t(75)\n\tSean Forbes                     66\t25\t(19)\n\tTapio Repo                      66\t25\t(11)\n\tzachmans wingers                66\t25\t(19)\n\tZipper Heads                    66\t25\t(11)\n\tCanadian Gladiators             66\t25\t(75)\n59.\tTeem Kanada                     65\t25\t(33)\n\tNew Zealand Leafs               65\t25\t(54)\n\tTiger Chung Lees                65\t25\t(54)\n\tRangers Of Destiny              65\t25\t(33)\n\tmake beliefs                    65\t25\t(54)\n\tDave Wessels                    65\t25\t(2)\n\tNorway Killerwhales             65\t25\t(54)\n66.\tForce 25                        64\t25\t(75)\n\ttrevor's triumph                64\t25\t(75)\n\tCommitments                     64\t25\t(141)\n\tSkate or Die                    64\t25\t(19)\n\tDog's Hog's                     64\t25\t(33)\n\tDelaware Destroyers             64\t25\t(33)\n\tCraig team                      64\t25\t(11)\n\tRangers Blow                    64\t25\t(54)\n\tDebbie Bowles                   64\t25\t(19)\n\tMak Paranjape                   64\t25\t(141)\n\tComfortably Numb                64\t25\t(127)\n\tLoaded Weapons                  64\t25\t(54)\n\tRob Del Mundo                   64\t25\t(54)\n\tRobarts Research Rebels         64\t25\t(54)\n\tFuzzfaces Galore                64\t25\t(19)\n\tHoudini's Magicians             64\t25\t(54)\n\tLa Coupe Stainless              64\t25\t(141)\n83.\tCluster Buster                  63\t25\t(33)\n\tLets Go Pandas                  63\t25\t(102)\n\tTequila Shooters                63\t25\t(141)\n\tSteves Superstars               63\t25\t(102)\n\tReksa fans of Oulu              63\t25\t(127)\n\tHabs Playing Golf               63\t25\t(75)\n\tChris Stevens                   63\t25\t(--)\n\tOn Thin Ice                     63\t25\t(102)\n\tOakville Brothers               63\t25\t(33)\n\tJason team                      63\t25\t(102)\n\tsmithw                          63\t25\t(102)\n94.\tAnson Mak                       62\t25\t(173)\n\tSkriko Wolves                   62\t25\t(102)\n\tall the kane's men              62\t25\t(75)\n\tDanielle Leblanc                62\t25\t(127)\n\tTeam Awesome                    62\t25\t(19)\n\tweasels                         62\t25\t(141)\n\tAlf's All-Stars                 62\t25\t(75)\n\tZippety Doodah                  62\t25\t(75)\n\tKramer George and Jerry         62\t25\t(75)\n\tRev's Rebels                    62\t25\t(75)\n\tYan Loke                        62\t25\t(75)\n\tLamp Lighters                   62\t25\t(102)\n\tlittlest giants                 62\t25\t(75)\n\tMr Creosote                     62\t25\t(75)\n108.\toceanweavers                    61\t25\t(161)\n\tGreat Scott                     61\t25\t(141)\n\tBobby Schmautz Fan Club         61\t25\t(127)\n\tIceMachine                      61\t25\t(102)\n\tHat Trick Mike                  61\t25\t(--)\n\tThe promise land                61\t25\t(33)\n\tDaves knee jerk picks           61\t25\t(102)\n\tDoug Bowles                     61\t25\t(102)\n\tHolsteins SFB                   61\t25\t(54)\n\tLemon Pepper Grizzly Bears      61\t25\t(54)\n\tFlying pigs                     61\t25\t(127)\n\tLes Raisins                     61\t25\t(102)\n\tRENEB                           61\t25\t(102)\n\tGilles Carmel                   61\t25\t(102)\n122.\tBoops Bets                      60\t25\t(127)\n\tTimo Ojala                      60\t25\t(127)\n\tRednecks from Hockey Hell       60\t25\t(33)\n\tgee man                         60\t25\t(127)\n\tFRACK ATTACK                    60\t25\t(54)\n\ttriple X                        60\t25\t(127)\n\tUlfie's 16 brothers             60\t25\t(--)\n\tbuffalo soldiers                60\t25\t(54)\n\tShigella                        60\t25\t(102)\n\tOttawa Bearcats                 60\t25\t(127)\n\tWhiters                         60\t25\t(141)\n\tMonica Loke                     60\t25\t(102)\n\tLance Hill The Boston Bruins Fa 60\t25\t(33)\n135.\tMann Mariners                   59\t24\t(141)\n\tNew Jersey Rob                  59\t25\t(102)\n\tFrasses Faceplants              59\t25\t(141)\n\tDoug Mraz                       59\t25\t(102)\n\tMuller n Walker                 59\t25\t(54)\n\tHigh Stickers                   59\t25\t(141)\n\tLegzryx                         59\t25\t(161)\n\tBeer Makes Me An Expert         59\t25\t(75)\n\tGail Hiebert                    59\t25\t(127)\n\tDean Martin                     59\t25\t(161)\n145.\tmarcs maulers                   58\t25\t(127)\n\tbrians bloodletters             58\t25\t(75)\n\tVan Isle Colonists              58\t25\t(141)\n\tCharlie Cook                    58\t25\t(--)\n\tBjorkloven                      58\t25\t(54)\n\tSchott Shooters                 58\t25\t(102)\n\tBjoern Leaguen                  58\t25\t(75)\n\tThe Eradicators                 58\t25\t(141)\n\tLord Stanley's Favourites       58\t25\t(141)\n\tBut Wait Theres more            58\t25\t(127)\n\tStacey Ross                     58\t25\t(141)\n156.\tHeikki Salmi                    57\t25\t(54)\n\tThe Ice Kickers                 57\t25\t(75)\n\tChapman Chaps                   57\t25\t(161)\n\tThe ^&#@$#$% Rangers of 1940    57\t25\t(54)\n\tThe Underwriters                57\t25\t(54)\n\tbeam team                       57\t25\t(176)\n\tDave Hiebert                    57\t25\t(75)\n\tCanuck Force                    57\t25\t(176)\n\tEvan Pritchard                  57\t25\t(161)\n\tControversy Warriors            57\t25\t(54)\n\tJFZ Dream Team                  57\t25\t(141)\n167.\tSan Jose Mahi Mahi              56\t25\t(141)\n\tgo go gagit                     56\t25\t(161)\n\tgoddess of fermentation         56\t25\t(54)\n\tbure's blur                     56\t25\t(141)\n\tLouisiana Psycho Killers        56\t25\t(141)\n\tEast City Jokers                56\t25\t(102)\n\tTampere Salami                  56\t25\t(176)\n\tJOE'S A CRAK HEAD               56\t25\t(102)\n\tGrant Marven                    56\t25\t(75)\n\tMark And Steve Dreaming Again   56\t25\t(75)\n\tPens Dynasty                    56\t25\t(161)\n178.\tChip n Dale                     55\t25\t(189)\n179.\tCherry Bombers                  54\t25\t(161)\n\tBrian Bergman                   54\t25\t(189)\n\tThe Goobmeister                 54\t25\t(75)\n\tOz                              54\t25\t(141)\n\tArm & Hammer                    54\t25\t(161)\n\tgax goons                       54\t25\t(176)\n\tDaryl Turner                    54\t25\t(102)\n186.\tE.I.S                           53\t25\t(141)\n\tBOSSE                           53\t25\t(75)\n\tMyllypuro Hedgehogs             53\t25\t(161)\n\tChapman Sticks                  53\t25\t(176)\n\tHillside Raiders                53\t25\t(185)\n\tKnights on a Power Play         53\t25\t(173)\n192.\tEldoret Elephants               52\t25\t(185)\n\tSparky's Select                 52\t25\t(176)\n\tSluggo's Hosers                 52\t25\t(173)\n\tbutt ends                       52\t25\t(176)\n196.\tlisa's luggers                  51\t25\t(197)\n\tStanias Stars                   51\t25\t(161)\n198.\tKen De Cruyenaere               49\t25\t(176)\n199.\tGary Shiff                      48\t25\t(--)\n200.\tJUKURIT                         47\t25\t(176)\n201.\tMontys Nords                    45\t25\t(192)\n\tJane's World                    45\t25\t(185)\n\tRolaids Required                45\t25\t(189)\n\tMartin's Gag                    45\t25\t(194)\n205.\tEquipe Du Jour                  44\t25\t(196)\n206.\tArsenal Maple Leafs             41\t18\t(194)\n\tthe ALarmers                    41\t25\t(185)\n208.\tKiller Kings                    38\t25\t(192)\n-- \nAndrew Scott                    | andrew@idacom.hp.com\nHP IDACOM Telecom Operation     | (403) 462-0666 ext. 253","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n   > I'm wondering if I can tote my American touch tone phone around with me\n   > to Sweden and Germany.  It's DC powered, and I can buy a special adapter\n   > for that in Europe.  The question is if the general electronics work\n   > the same.  I can buy a different wall plug and refit it (I'm sure I'd\n   > have to), but would that do the trick?\n\n   Two things to watch for:\n   In Germany (and I think the same holds for Sweden) only some\n   of the connections can handle tone dialing, so make sure the\n   phone can be set to pulse dialing.\n\nMost (if not virtually all) swedish exchanges can handle tone\ndialling. Many older electromechanical exchanges have been modified\naccept tone dialling.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nWayne:\n\nLook for these advertised in sailboat supplies catalogs and sail-related\nmagazines (eg. SAIL ...).","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nSecaris is reasonably inexpensive ($6.00 Cdn for a tube), and is indeed an\nover the counter medication. Why it does not appear to be available in the\nUS, I don't know. It's manufactured in Montreal.\n\nIt's a nasal lubricant, and is intended to help nosebleeds that result from\ndry mucous membranes.\n\nFrom some of the replies to my original posting, it's evident that some\npeople do not secrete enough mucous to keep their nose lining protected\nfrom environmental influences (ie, dry air). But I've had no responses\nfrom anyone with experience with Rutin. Is there another newsgroup that\nmight have specifics on herbal remedies?\n\nBut thanks to all those who did reply with their experiences.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I went to a place called American Car Care Centers to check my car for A\/C\nleak.  After \"checking\", I was told that there is a leak in the compressor\nseal.  At the end, in addition to the labor for the check, I was charged 12\ndollars for a pound of freon, although they evacuated my A\/C afterwards\nbecause of the leak.  First, is it fair for him to charge me for a pound of\nfreon ($12 plus tax) ?  Second, what can I do about this if this is unfair ?","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Seeking North Carolina beach rental.  Desire house for two\nfamilies (4 adults, 3 kids) for one week in late June\/early\nJuly.\n   ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"THE WHITE HOUSE\n\n                    Office of the Press Secretary\n______________________________________________________________\nFor Immediate Release                             April 20, 1993     \n\n\t     \n                       REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT\n                IN PHOTO OPPORTUNITY WITH VACLAV HAVEL\n\t     \n\t     \n                           The Oval Office \n\t     \n\n5:00 P.M. EDT\n\n\n\t     Q\t  Mr. President, President Havel is here for the \nHolocaust Museum opening, and you toured the museum last night.  All \nthis focus on the Holocaust, how does that weigh on your decision-\nmaking process as far as Bosnia is concerned?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Well, I think the Holocaust is the most \nextreme example the world has ever known of ethnic cleansing.  And I \nthink that even in its more limited manifestations, it's an idea that \nshould be opposed.  You couldn't help thinking about that.  That's \nnot to compare the two examples.  They're not identical; everyone \nknows that.  But I think that the United States should always seek an \nopportunity to stand up against -- at least to speak out against \ninhumanity.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Sir, how close are you to a decision on more \nsanctions on Bosnia?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Well, of course, we've got the U.N. \nvote.  Ambassador Albright was instrumental in the U.N. vote to \nstrengthen the sanctions and they are quite tough.  And we now are \nputting our heads at the business of implementing them and looking at \nwhat other options we ought to consider.  And I don't have anything \nelse to say, except to tell you that I spent quite a bit of time on \nit and will continue to over the next several days.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Following your meeting today, sir, are you any \ncloser to some sort of U.S. military presence there?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  I have not made any decisions.\n\t     \n                                 * * *                               \n\t     \n\t     \n\t     Q\t  President Clinton, why have you decided to meet \nwith Mr. Havel?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Well, I'm just honored that he would \ncome and see me.  I'm glad he's here in the United States for the \ndedication of the Holocaust Museum.  He is a figure widely admired in \nour country and around the world, and a very important person in \nEurope, and a very important person to the United States.  So I'm \nhoping that we'll have a chance to talk about the new Czech republic \nand what kinds of things we can do together to support the causes we \nbelieve in.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Thanks for the responses so far. I hope that I have \nsparked some thought (which is more my intent than \nto restart one of the Reformations).\n\nI'm just going to tug on two threads:\n\nIn Message-ID: <May.10.05.07.21.1993.3479@athos.rutgers.edu>\ndb7n+@andrew.cmu.edu (D. Andrew Byler) writes, \n\n\nI was simply observing that as a non-Jew, I am not in that community\nwhich might be bound by such a decision (I don't know much about\nthe Council of Jamnia, but I have heard that it is not well-attested\nhistorically). 'Faithless' has nothing to do with it, and I prefer\nnot to speculate about motives.\n\n\nI wish the Dialogue_with_Trypho were a real transcript of a real\ndialogue,, but I think it a fictional effect on Justin's part.\nPutting that to one side, Justin's point may be evidential; one\nwould want to know- 'which books?'\n\n\nPerhaps the reformers were traveling in all the light (MS evidence)\nthey had. Let's stick to the issues. Again, I prefer not to speculate\nabout motives. One would need quotes from Luther, Calvin, etc. to\nevidence this 'preference'.\n\n-----\nIn Message-ID: <May.9.05.38.22.1993.27327@athos.rutgers.edu>\nwagner@grace.math.uh.edu (David Wagner)\n\n\nIs this the principle: 'Any (BC) text not quoted by Christ cannot\nbe counted as Scripture' ? Think well about this- Job, Ruth...?\n\n \t\tThese is a logically invalid *a priori*. \n \t\tBesides, we are talking about OT texts- \n \t\twhich in many parts are superceded by the NT\n \t\t(in the Xtian view). Would not this same\n \t\tprinciple exclude _Ecclesiastes_?\n \t\tThis principle cannot be consistently applied.\n\nDave W. answers:\n \n\nMeaning what? Do you affirm the principle (that the D.c's can be\nexcluded since they contain 'false doctrine') or do you deny it? \nIf affirmed (as is implied in your statement) how does one determine \nthat doctrine X is false? Do you affirm every teaching in _Ecclesiastes_?\n\n\nIf so, it may be a test that cannot be applied. The Orthodox\nfaithfully believe that Psalm 151 is canonical. How can my\nfaith say 'Not!' ? All I hear here is the *a priori* I mentioned\nbefore.\n\n\nThis is contrary to fact.\n\n\nCan this be elevated to a principle? How is 'spiritual quality'\nmeasured? I'll take the 'spiritual quality' of most of Sirach over \nJoshua or Chronicles, any day.\n\n\nWhat can I say? You believe what you believe- I'm asking for\na consistency check. I don't see that the books were added- in any\nconstruction this formulation begs the question. No one can validly\nask me to 'have faith' that these books are noncanonical.\n\n\nDave Davis, ddavis@ma30.bull.com\nThese are my opinions & activities alone\n\nQOTD:","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Well,\n\n    You can always try and find a PC dealer who sells guaranteed memory.\nI work at a company growing at 40% a year, we have on order hundreds\nof computers per year.  It never fails, machines come in with BAD SIMMS.\nNow for those of you who are wondering just WHY your PC or MAC just crashed\nI can tell you I always thought it was the incompetent ass who wrote or\ndesigned the software.\n    Well, I don't think that way anymore, especially with the results I\nhave gotten with replacing BAD SIMMS in my own machine and others at work.\nThe moral to this story is to MAKE SURE your memory is good.  I would\nbe willing to bet lots of you out there have SIMMS with either soft\nor hard errors on them and you don't even know about it, but every once\nin awhile those bad SIMMS just makes your life hell.\n   \nI just got plain SICK of dealing with peoples complaints that thier machine\njust crashed and they lost thier work.  In case your wondering, or if you\nhaven't already guessed I work in an IS department.  Service is a do or die\nperogative in this line of work, so the MORAL IS:  HAVE YOUR MEMORY TESTED\nwith a SIMM hardware tester...and NO I don't mean the simple little software\nprograms that you can run in your machine.  SIMMS are complicated little\nbeasts and they needs special hardware to test them effectively.\n\nIf any of you are interested in getting one of these nifty little devices\nwhich are not cheap, write me back.  They make life a little bit easier, and\nbesides they pay for themselves in a short time from the loss of productivity\npeople would have to deal with when thier machine commits suicide.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
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{"text":"\nThe Shannon limit for voice lines is likely somewhere around 25kbps.\nWe are rapidly approaching it. The fastest affordable full-duplex\nmodems currently on the market are V32bis, which is 14400bps.\n\n\nCELP manages to sound decent at 4800 bps.\n\nIn theory, if you built a speech recognition system that turned voice\ninto ASCII, and a perfect synthesis system on the other end that\nsounded just like the person you were speaking to, you could get it\ndown to the information content of the speech.\n\nWith various kinds of LPC, you can get it down to 2400 bps or prehaps\neven less, at which point it sounds horrible.\n\n4800 bps is more than adequite for our purposes.\n\n--\nPerry Metzger\t\tpmetzger@shearson.com","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nFunny, I thought the numbering scheme for both Lexus and Infiniti was\nrelated to sticker price more than anything else, i.e. Infiniti G20 (around\n20K), Q45 (around 45K), Lexus ES250 (RIP) (around 25K), Lexus ES300 (around\n30K), etc.\n\nIs there a conspiracy theory there? \n\nSpiros","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I just signed up for this group, so I hope I'm not missing something\nin a FAQ, but I'm looking for a good introduction to the mathematics\nof encryption -- particularly DES and Public-Key, though others would\nbe interesting also.  Probably a good library could help me out, but I\nthought it might be even easier if I could obtain a nice article\nentirely electronically (besides, I have this rather *rational* phobia\nof libraries for reasons stemming from this \"dissertation\" thing\nhanging over my head :-)).  \n\tI have a basic knowledge of mathematics... number-theory is a\nbit unfamiliar to me, but I've had a few graduate-level math courses\nin some other areas; anyway, I'm not a complete novice to the field.\nSo probably something aimed at a basic graduate introductory level\nwould be about right.  Something, anyway, which is more specific than\n\"a really big prime number is generated to code the message\".\n\tIf someone knows of a good text available by ftp (or gopher),\nor would like to email me one... please let me know.  I'll probably keep\nreading this group; but it would be nice if you would email me at the\nsame time, so I don't miss it.\n\nThanx, Lulu...","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Applied Engineering used to sell a 3.5\" disk drive for the Apple IIgs that\nread and wrote 1.6 meg on a HD disk.  I wonder if the drive would work on a\nmac, since I'm using my old 3.5\" drive from my IIgs on my IIsi now.  Just a\nthought.\n\n+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+\n\n \/~~~~~~~\\\n\\_____    |\n      |   | TTTTTT EEEEE VV     VV EEEEE     |\n      |   |   TT   EE     VV   VV  EE        |\n \/---\/    |   TT   EEEE    VV VV   EEEE      | Steve Liu                    |\n\n+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+   \n\nNewsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.software\nSubject: Re: Formatting more than 1440K - Possible???\nSummary: \nExpires: \nReferences: <C64J1n.Hpq@csulb.edu>\nDistribution: \nOrganization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA\nKeywords: \n\nApplied Engineering used to sell a 3.5\" disk drive for the Apple IIgs that\nread and wrote 1.6 meg on a HD disk.  I wonder if the drive would work on a\nmac, since I'm using my old 3.5\" drive from my IIgs on my IIsi now.  Just a\nthought.\n\n+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+\n\n \/~~~~~~~\\\n\\_____    |\n      |   | TTTTTT EEEEE VV     VV EEEEE     |\n      |   |   TT   EE     VV   VV  EE        |\n \/---\/    |   TT   EEEE    VV VV   EEEE      | Steve Liu                    |","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nNo, if you put a conductor in a changing magnetic field, it produces a voltage.\nThe two ways you can do that with a permanent magnet is to move the magnet or\nmove the conductor.  The slow shifting of the Earth's magnetic field isn't\nreally significant, especially when you consider how weak the Earth's magnetic\nfield is to begin with.\n\n\nWell, it would require generating an incredibly large magnetic field to repel\nthe Earth's magnetic field (as a magnet can repel another magnet).  Of course,\nthis force only works in one direction, and the magnetic field generated has\nto be unimaginably powerful.  Magnetic repulsion drops off as 1\/r^3, and the\nearth's magnetic field on the surface is already very weak.  It would require\nsome sort of unknown superconductor, and special nonmagnetic construction.\nAnd seriously hardenned electronics (optical computers, perhaps).  And the\nphysiological danger would be significant (due to the iron content in our\nblood, among other things).  In other words, forget it.\n\n\nI missed out on the \"dragless satellite\" thread, but it sounds totally bogus,\nfrom this little bit.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nNot an astute observation -- this is a straw-bullpen.  The lefties,\nStanton & Mercker are strong, and Wohlers is down learning a new pitch.\nThe bullpen is fine, probably superior.\n\n\nAlso false.  Gant, Nixon, Justice, Hunter, Blauser present a decent enough\noffense.  EVERYONE is slumping (except Blauser), not just Pendleton.\n\nBTW, what is the story with Brian Hunter?  Is he in the dog house?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n<Stuff deleted>\n\nMINOR? You put unsignalled lane change in a MINOR category? Now I know\nwho these guys are...","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nI would expect that CD-ROM software would not even need copy protection.\nAs the program on a CD-ROM would not fit onto a hard-drive, and it is\nimpossible for the average (and even not-so-average) user to write to a\nCD-ROM, copies of the software (that still work) could never be made.\n\nHmmm.. now that I think about it.. with a creative TSR, maybe\ndisk-swapping could be used to simulate files on a single disk. You\nwould need a tonne of disks though.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I am considering adding to my 386 system equipped with a 130meg Maxtor \nHD, a second Maxtor 245 Meg HD.  I assume this will not be a problem. \nHowever, I remember reading somewhere that to do this, you needed to \nreformat your original drive ?  Is this true ?  If so why ?  My drive is \nfull and I really don't like the idea of to re-installing everything \nfrom floppy!!\n\n    Please E-mail me, or post to the group\n\n\n        --Mike\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------\nMike Tancsa             INTERNET:#1  mdtancsa@watarts.uwaterloo.ca\nWaterloo, Ontario                #2  mike.tancsa@canrem.com       \nCANADA                                                            \n__________________________________________________________________\n\n---\n \u00fe RoseReader 2.10\u00e1 P004555 Entered at [CRS]","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I am looking for a suitable UART for a project.  What I require \nis a stand alone device (i.e. not cpu controlled) which will \nreceive 1200 baud RS232.  Also a nice extra would be a received \ndata buffer.  Please reply with any info you have.\n\nThanks,","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"My 610 is working like a charm.. In fact, if 610's are flaky, I would consider it a great computer even if I had to return a couple to Apple to get a good one.\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nWell, you're going to have to practice, but you're getting\nthe hang of it.  Soon we're going to have to give you a new\nnickname.  Try these on for size:\n\nTammy \"Lucky Seven\" Healy\nTammy \"Pass the falafel\" Healy\nTammy \"R Us\" Healy\nTammy \"Learning by Doing\" Healy\n\n\n\nMaddi \"Never a Useful Post\" Hausmann\n\n-- \nMaddi Hausmann                       madhaus@netcom.com\nCentigram Communications Corp        San Jose California  408\/428-3553","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nBULLSHIT. How many lakes have ceased to be able to support life from\npurely natural pollution? Man has already done this to scores of lakes.\nAlso, much of the \"degredation\" you cite was done by cows and pigs.\n\nAnd why do think there are so many cows around?\n\nCould it be.......cause people raise them?\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nYou have one. Minimize the print manager and drag a file to it and it will\nprint it. You need to associate file extensions with such things as the\nnotepad for it to do this though.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Okay.  I have my copies of all relevant gun-control bills.  I'm mad as hell.\nI want to get involved.  I want to join the battle to protect our Second\nAmendment Rights.\n\nWho do I write?\n\nWho should I concentrate on writing my comments to?  The actual author of the\nbill?  The supporters of the bill?  My Congressman?  My Senator?  Newspapers?\nMagazines?  All of the above?\n\nI don't believe that I will change the world, but at least I am going to throw\na few punches.  Can any of you offer any advice or suggestions to me as I now\nbegin to get involved here?\n\nThanks for replying directly to me via e-mail.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nThe VL-IDE Adapter can be much faster then the normal IDE, it depends on the\ndrive you use and the board you use. I am using a NoName VL-IDE I\/O Contr.\nit is tested under coretest with 2.000 kb\/s using a cheap Seagate 3196 and nearly\n4000 kb\/s using a WD-Caviar 2340, you have figure out the jumper setting on the\ncontroller to get reliable diskaccess, fastest setting gets 4600 kb\/s under Coretest\nbut does not work reliable. You have to shadow the adapter BIOS to get the fast\nspeed. I haven\u00b4t used a VL-IDE-Cache controller yet, but it might speed up twice.\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\tdieter\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nok.  so what's an \"exhaust bra\"?  i'm guessing it's not a fabric thing that\nstraps to the pipes...  does it go over the chin fairing\/lowers in some way?\ni usually don't ride with the lower plastic...","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I recently took apart my color Sony TV to clean the volume pushbuttons and\nwhen I put the beast back together, the flyback whine got much louder.\n\nIs this easy to fix? Which part is resonating? I have heard rumors of a\nspray that will fix the noise.  Is this a simple thing for a TV repairman\nto fix?\n\n\tThanks,","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"A friend of mine uses Windows 3.1 to do most of her work.\nUnfortunately, she has very bad eyesight, and we haven't\nbeen able to figure out how to change the default font\nused by the system and application menus, or the font used\nby the Help program (what use is hypertext if you can't\nread it?) to make it legible to her.\n\nIf anyone knows how to increase the size of these fonts,\nof any software package that makes Windows more accessible\nto visually handicapped people, please let me know.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Organization: Compact Solutions, Canberra ACT Australia\n\nI have a floppy drive which has developed \"General failure\" errors. (It's a Teac 1.44Mb 3.5\" drive).\n\nI took it out of the machine and noticed it was very dusty. I used a high powered air can to blow all this dust out and it's quite clean now.\n\nHowever, it didn't help the problem.  I've also identified that when the machine boots (and the drive seeks for a boot disk), the head movement during this process is now approximately half the length of the original time.  What I mean is the period when the drive light comes on and the heads move from their retracted position out to the track containing the boot sector.\n\nIs there anything more I can do to try and save this drive? I'd prefer not to shell out $100 for a new one if I can help it.\n\nThanks!\n\nCheers, Ben\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nBen J. Elliston\nBachelor of Engineering (Computer Engineering)                     \\\\\\\/\/\nUniversity of Canberra                                             (@ @)\n                                                             ___ooO_( )_Ooo__\nEmail:      compsol@fir.canberra.edu.au                              V\nAlso:       ellib@cbr.cpsg.com.au\nUUCP:       ..!uunet!munnari!sserve.adfa.oz.au!compsol!root\nFidoNet:    3:620\/262\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nIt is ironic that in any post that criticizes langauge ability, the critic\ninvariably makes a mistake himself (\"english\" is generally written \"English\".)\n\n\nOddly, I do not see that I have contested any of that. Perhaps you, with \nassuredly greater \"english\" ability can explain, in tiny words that I might\ngrasp their meaning, precisely WHERE I infer that you have said any of those\nthings? \n\n\nNo Mr Fisher, you should place the burden of proof on the one who makes the\nallegation in the first place. You do not. Perhaps you might explain why that\nis? As for the email route, Mr Fisher, you might have tried that yourself. ","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\tHas anyone used DCE threads with an X Client?\n\tIs it possible to have one thread listening for incoming RPCs\n\twhile another processes X Events? How do you set something\n\tlike this up?\n\t\t\t\t\t_ Atul\n\t\t\t\t\t(apara@ctp.com)\n\n\t\t\t\t\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"To anyone with experience about Honda Civic (EX or DX) or Saturn SL1:\n\nI would be interested in knowing how reliable these cars are, how expensive\nthey are to own and operate (parts, maintenance, gas, insurance), if the\ndealers are good, and if they actually live up to their economy image.\n\nAnother question:  what would I expect to pay for a Civic EX coupe with\nautomatic, air, and an AM\/FM radio?\n\nMail to the address below or post to this group.\n\nThanks, \n\nRob","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nIt sure did!\n\n\nI have; and all the above teach me that accurately perceiving reality \nis a tricky business -- _not_ that there's no reality.\n\n--\nMark Pundurs","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nFirst off, use some decent terms if ya don't mind.  This is sci.med, not\nalt.sex.\n\nSecondly, how absolutely bogus to assume that \"American's are just too hung\nup on the penis....blah,blah\".  I think most American's don't care about\nanything so comlicated as that.  They just think it \"looks nicer\".  Ask \na few of them and see what response you get.  Others still opt for\ncircumcision due to religious traditions and beliefs.  Some think it is\neasier to clean.  Still others do it because \"Daddy was\".\n\nDont' be so naive as to think American's are afraid of sexuality. ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I don't know much about Hydrophones, so I'm looking for any information\nthat will help avoid problems I haven't thought of! I would like an \ninexpensive hydrophone and amplifier with tape (line level) outputs...\nsomething like Edmund sells for $250. They also sell just the microphone\n(hydrophone) head for $24, but how does one construct the enclosure?\nAny information would be greatly appreciated, Thanks!","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nI presume you are just going to use IDEA for the session encryption and\ntransmit the session key with RSA?\n\nDavid R. Conrad\t\t\"No his mind is not for rent\/To any god or government\"","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I have been studying the Bible now for about a year.  I love it,\nbut I am not very familiar with the different denominations, or\ntraditions, or common beliefs of various christian groups.\nI have heard various people (outside this news group)\ndescribe *idols* such as power, money, material \npossessions etc.  These things are worshiped in some sense I \nsuppose, but I never really gave idols much thought.  Until now...  \n\nI have been reading the postings in this news group (which I \njust found a few days ago), and I have a question...  First, I'm\nnot trying to question anyone's belief or try to push my views\non anyone else (I haven't been at this long enough to have\nany views other than I cannot get to heaven by being good,\nI must understand that Christ bore my sins on the cross so that\nI could be saved and I need to repent, i.e. realize that\nevery time I sin, I might as well stick a sharp stick in\nChrist's side because He took the punishment for my sins,\nwhen He died on the cross).\n\nIn my studies, Mary never really comes up.  I know who she is, \nbut that's about it.  It seems to me that a statue of Mary \ncould be considered an idol?  Do people pray to statues of Mary?\n\nIt sounds like educated christians (more educated than myself\nI'm sure) believe Mary was sinless?  Wow...  I hoped to spend\nthe summer convincing myself (one way or the other) about\nTongues (I'm reading \"Charismatic Chaos\").  I guess I'll study\nTongues in parallel with reading this news group.  Any help you can \ngive me will be appreciated.\n\n    -------------------------------------------\n\n[I don't think the issue is so much that people are more educated than\nyou (though it may well be that they are), as that they come from a\ndifferent tradition than yours.\n\nThis is a discussion between Catholics and Protestants.  Catholics\ngenerally believe that Mary was sinless.  Protestants do not.  The\nissue comes down to different sources of authority.  Protestants\ngenerally limit themselves to the Bible as a source of doctrine.\nSince this isn't in the Bible (except in passages that no one would\nunderstand in this way if they didn't already believe it), Protestants\ndon't accept it.  Catholics see continuing revelation through the\nChurch, though they believe the results are consistent with the Bible.\n\nI interpret your posting, not as a call for yet another argument about\nwhether the Catholic Marian devotions are idolatry (an argument I am\nnot prepared to see newed here), but as a sign of being interested in\nlearning about traditions other than your own.  Catholics are of\ncourse a major one, but by no means the only one.  I generally\nconsider the major traditions to be Catholic, Orthodox, and\nvarious subsets of Protestantism.  Within Protestantism, it's a matter\nof how finely you want to cut things.  These days I think the major\ndivision is between those who accept Biblical inerrancy and those\nwho don't.  There are also a number of major historical traditions,\nbut in recent decades distinctions are tending to blur.  I'd \nidentify the major Protestant traditions as:\n\n  Lutheran, Reformed, Anglican (they're sort of halfway between\n  Catholic and Protestant), Wesleyan, Baptist, Holiness, Pentecostal,\n  Church of Christ\n\nBut there are a number of others.  Historical distinctions tend not to\nbe so important among the liberal churches anymore, and I think\ncurrent trends in society and the Church are also tending to make\nconservatives seen themselves as allies from a general \"evangelical\"\nperspective.  But differences among these various traditions are still\nquite marked.\n\nI think the best introduction to these issues is to read a good book\non church history.  Anyone who wants to understand the church really\nneeds to understand how we got where we are now.  A church history\nwill normally show you where each of these traditions came from, and\ngive a feeling for their nature.  Unfortunately I'm away from my\nlibrary at the moment, so I don't have anything specific to recommend.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Home speakers:\n\no NHT (Now Hear This Inc.) Model II floor tower speaker system.\n  The Model II is a pair of 3 way design with a 3\/4\" tweeter,\n  6.5\" mid-range, and two 6.5\" woofer for low bass.\n  Impedance is 8 ohms (minimum 4 ohms), the cross-over\n  points are 100Hz and 3.2 KHz. Frequency response is rated\n  at 40Hz to 22KHz +\/- 3db.  Rated efficiency is 87db.\n  Power rating is between 35 to 200 watts per channel.\n  Black finish.  Magnetic shielded perfect for surround sound\n  front speakers or HiFi audio speakers.\n  retail $850.00 at Macys, asking $500 obo, a year old,\n  rarely used, excellent just like new condition.\n\no Bose 301 book shelf speakers, black, perfect condition, like new,\n  Paid $350.00, asking $220.00 firm\n\no B&O (Bang & Olufsen) Beovox CX100 Satellite speakers, white.\n  Brand new in box, paid $450.00.\n  $350.00 obo\n\no Yamaha center center\n  paid $125, asking $80.00 firm, just like new\n\no Yamaha rear channel speakers for Doby Surround Sound\n  paid $150, asking $99.00, just like new\n\nCar speakers:\n\no Boston Acoustic 861 seperates (car audio speakers), 6\" woofers\n  with seperate tweeters and crossovers.\n  Brand new in box, never been installed, $259.00 at Good Guys\n  Asking $199.00 firm","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nESPN must have some very poor marketing people.  They are only concerned with\nfeaturing players (i.e. Mario) than featuring good competitive hockey.\n\n\nI've heard that this is because most of their market is East Coast and hence\nwould prefer the Wales stuff.  Also, don't expect Canadian teams on ESPN.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nNonsense! I wasn't asked if Larry O'Brien should trust Nixon with his keys,\nbut whether I would.\n\nDavid","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n  just a point, i suppose, if open mind means believing anything can be true\nor we can't for sure know what is definitely true, i'm happy to not be open\nminded.  if, however, open mindedness means being respectful and tolerant\ntowards other beliefs, respecting the rights and intelligence and wisdom\nof people of other beliefs and giving equal time to alternative ideas, i\ntry my very best to be open minded.  just a thot in passing.... :)\n\n\n  not being married, i cannot say too much to you, but from my perspective\nhaving mutually exclusive faiths would be a big enough roadblock for me in\nconsidering marrying someone.  making it much bigger than it is?  i suppose\nthat depends on how serious each of you is in your beliefs.  lukewarm atheists\nand christians for whom religion is of nominal importance probly would feel\nthe issue isn't very big.  i suppose the more important your beliefs are to\neach of you, the more important the issue is.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"  Some comments deleted for bandwidth (God knows, we need it... :))\n\n  \n  Ok, Roger, here's a question for you.  Say you are running an expansion\nteam.  You don't HAVE a team at the moment, but the draft is coming up.  Who\nare you going to pick, guys who have won the most WS rings, or guys who \nCOULD contribute the most to your team.  Say the Reds were dumb enough to \nnot protect Larkin, and the Jays didn't protect Alfredo.  Who would you\npick?\n\n    (I can't believe I'm getting involved in this... :)\n\n  John","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Article #61214 (61317 is last):\nFrom: arnolm2@aix.rpi.edu (Matthew Richard Arnold)\nSubject: DX50 vs DX266\nDate: Wed Apr 21 19:55:12 1993\n\n\nWould someone be willing to explain to me the 486DX 50MHz is not more\npopular than it is?  I would think it would be just as fast, if not \nfaster than the 486DX 66MHz for certian applications.  Plus, a 50MHz \nmotherboard would seem better if you had any plans on upgrading the\nchip in the future.  I must be missing something, since everyone is \nbuying the DX2 66...  Many adds don't even mention the DX 50.\n\n Thanks a lot,\n   -Matt\n\nEnd of File, Press RETURN to quit\n\nYes its realy simple, no one makes a mother board that runs the\nbus at more than 33MHZ....Sam","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":": I cant get through to the author of rtrace. His site is inaccessible\n: can he upload the new version somewhere else please?","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nWhat is the copyright status of this data?  Are there restrictions regarding the\nuses they can be put to?\n\nKaveh\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nGee, since you ignored the entire substance of my substantial\npost, you got a lot of nerve claiming that I don't understand\nwhat's being talked about.\n\nRespond to the previous post or shut the fuck up.  You're\nreally annoying.\n\n\n-- \nMaddi Hausmann                       madhaus@netcom.com\nCentigram Communications Corp        San Jose California  408\/428-3553","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"<Due it seems to Sun's crapulous organisation of the X libraries and includes,\n<most standard (GNU and other) software won't compile out of the box (well, tar\n<file). \n<\n<Right now I'm trying to make ghostview. It complains it can't find X11\/XaW\/...\n<so I just linked (ln -s) the files from \/usr\/openwin\/share\/include\/X11 and \n<now the ghoddam thing _still_ complains it can't find them.\n<\n<I still haven't been able to compile xdvi, not no way.\n<\n<Has anyone _ever_ managed to get _anything_ normal to compile on a Sun\n<(SunOS 4.1.3 and OpenWindows 3)? What's the trick I'm missing? I've even \n<tried hard copying all the relevant files into the \"right\" places and\n<every time, there's some bit missing or it refuses to find it.\n\nSounds like you didn't load the support for those libraries when OW3.0 was\nloaded.  The Xaw support was missing from OW2.0 but added in 3.0.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I writing a program that uses the parallel port. My problem is that I need to\ngenerate an interrupt when the ack line is pulsed. I can get this to occur  \nonce, but am unable to generate succesive interrupts.\n\nCan someone suggest how I may resolve this problem.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I have a 1974 Honda CB360T which for most of my purposes runs well. \nHowever I expereince a severe power drop at cruising speeds under load. \nThat is, on a mild upgrade @ 50 mph in 4th or 5th I'm lucky if I can\nhold speed.  If I try to add throttle much past 5000 rpm, power drops\ndrastically.  Put simply, under load, the engine won't rev past 5000\nrpm.  The top third\/half of the throttle range is dead.  Standing still\nthe engine runs fine up to red line (9-10K).\n\nOther phenomenology: at about the point that power loss kicks in, the\nengine becomes a little wavery.  That is, at a steady throttle the\nengine speed goes up and down slightly.  The bike has about 13000 miles\non it and is in good tune, at least until it starts to balk.\n\nI would appreciate any suggestions as to what's ailing the poor beast. \nMy thoughts run toward clogged jets and\/or improper spark advance.  I'm\nhoping it's not something more drastic since the bike's not really worth\nthe hassle of any major engine work.\n\n                                        Thanks,","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nThe Stacy Koon-Lawrence Powell defense!  The decisions of Janet\nReno and Bill Clinton in this affair are essentially the moral\nequivalents of Stacy Koon's.  Reno and Clinton have the advantage\nin that they investigate themselves. ","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I recently set Windows 3.1 up on my 486DX-33 VLB system, and I didn't\nnotice until last night that I don't have the 386 icon in my control\npanel.  I don't remember Windows setup asking me about 386 enhanced\nmode (whether I wanted it or not).  Now I've got a program that I \njust bought (Aldus Freehand 3.1) that is telling me that I should be\nrunning Windows in enhanced mode (looks like I'm running in standard\nmode).\n\nHow can switch to enhanced mode without the little icon thingie?  Are\nthere some issues involved with VESA LB systems which cause Windows\nto not want to give you enhanced mode? \n\nThanks for any help!!","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nSigh.   That's music to my ears, after all the complaining Lois did\nabout the seat on my BMW...\n\n\nI've found that the phrase \"sack of potatoes\" works pretty well in\ndescribing to a passenger how s\/he should act.\n\n\nOn a long ride with my ex-girlfriend Nancy, I would notice her\ndrifting off every so often (we were droning down highway 101 to LA).\nI probably wouldn't have been aware of this if she hadn't been in the\nhabit of squeezing my butt with her knees to hold on.   Good advice.\n\n\t\t\t       _MelloN_","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":":Chronic persistent hepatitis is usually diagnosed when someone does a liver\n:biopsy on a patient that has persistently elevated serum transaminases months\n:after a bout of acute viral hepatitis, or when someone is found to have\n:persistently elevated transaminases on routine screening tests. The degree of\n:elevation (in the serum transaminases) can be trivial, or as much as ten times\n:normal. Other blood chemistries are usually normal. \n:As a rule, patients with CPH have no clinical signs of liver disease. \n:Chronic active hepatitis can also be asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic, at\n:least initially, and that's why it's important to tell them apart by means of\n:a biopsy. The patient with CPH only needs to be reassured. The patient with\n:CAH needs to be treated.\n\nI just went back to the chapter in Cecil on chronic hepatitis.  It seems\nthat indeed most cases of CPH are persistant viral hepatitis, whereas\nthere are a multitude of potential and probable causes for CAH (viral,\ndrugs, alcohol, autoimmune, etc.).  Physicians seem to have a variety of\n\"thresholds\" for electing to biopsy someone's liver.  Personally, I think\nthat if the patient is asymptomatic, with only slight transaminitis and\nnormal albumin and PT, one can simply follow them closely and not add the\npotential risks of a biopsy.  Others may well biopsy such a patient, thus\nproviding these samples for study.  It would be interesting to see if\nanyone's done any decision analysis on this.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nAnd maybe they do.  But without somebody to set the time that doesn't\ndo them any good.\n\n\nHumph.  Deleted there was my list of non-religious reasons one might\nwant a moment of silence for a dead classmate.\n\nMaybe everyone doesn't want to be silent for teachers to give their\npompous non-religious speeches in assembly.  I know I didn't.  So?\n\n\n\nPlease provide documentation that opposing only things that are\nactively religious (e.g. actual prayer, \"Amen\" after a moment of\nsilence, mandatory classes in religion) and not things that have\npossible but uncertain religious implications (e.g. moments of\nsilence, having the Bible on the shelves during reading period) is not\na way to prevent a state religion.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"The Quantum BBS number is 408-894-3214.  Good luck.\n\nLes\n\n\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Excerpts from netnews.comp.windows.x: 15-May-93 Re: COLORS and X windows\n(A.. John Cwikla@morrison.wri (4620) \n\n\nWhat I'd like to see is this scenario: \n\nEach widget, view, whatever, describes it's colors via a palette. \nPalettes can be shared and they only contain descriptive information. \nThey are not directly tied to the object that uses them.  Palettes are\nheld in the server.  A palette can accomadate, up to, the number of\nhardware color cells of color descriptors. \n\nWhen the input focus is in a particular widget, that widget has access\nto all of the colors that are described in its associated palette.  ALL\nOTHER WIDGETS, TRANSIENTLY, GET THE CLOSEST APPROXIMATION THAT CAN BE\nGENERATED BY A UNION OF THE COLORS FROM THE CURRENT PALETTE AND ANY FREE\nCOLORS THAT ARE LEFT OVER. \n\nA widget specifies a color for imaging by providing an index (pixel)\ninto its associated palette. ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I must say that I have been a customer of Midwest Micro for over 4\nyears now, and have been well taken care of on each purchase.\nI have had many friends that have bought that same modem and (THEY)\ndo have some experience with setting up modems, so there have been\nno problems in 6 of them that I know of. The fact that your time\nto valuable for you to spend on the modem is where you went wrong.\nWHY you say because I must tell you of the 12 yes I say 12 PPI modems\nthat I have had in the past that I was trying to use on my bbs. They\nall were junk and were replace 3 times each, to ther point that\nI just said forget it and I wanted my money back. PPI's teck even\nsaid that they didn't even repair them. That they just strip the\nparts that are good and junk thr rest of the modem.\nI think it was more your fault than Midwest Mirco's faulkt...Sam","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Could someone please help me. I am trying to find the \naddress to the TDRS receiving station at White Sands\nMissile Range. I am interested in possible employment\nand would like to write for information.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"The honest answer to your question about Arabs who were expelled\nfrom Jaffa, and\/or who fled Jaffa, or anywhere else in Israel, having\nthe right to return is:  Yes, unfortunately, they have the right to\nreturn.  They may apply for citizenship like any other non-Israeli and\nthen go to >Jaffa and try to buy their house back from the Jews who now\nown it.  \n\n\tAnd now a question and answer for you:  Can the Jews who were\nborn and raised in Hebron, or their descendants go back to THEIR homes\nin Hebron?  The answer is: absolutely NOT, because they were almost all\nmurdered by their Arab neighbors - the \"palestinians\".\n\n\tNow, do I think the Arabs should be allowed to even visit\n\"their\" homes in Jaffa?  Hell, no.  Bring back the Jews of Hebron, Petah\nTikva, Jerusalem, Safed, etc. Then, perhaps I would be in favor of Arabs\nreturning to their Jaffa homes.  However, seeing as no Arab has yet been\nable to bring people back from the dead, I'd say that's out.\n\nWith all the hope in the world,\n\nNissan Ratzlav-Katz","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I forgot to mention that the stats are for games through 4\/20.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Often times (most recently on this list in the last few days) I've\nheard the passage from revelation:\n\n\t\"...whoever adds to the sacred words of this book...whoever removes\n\t words from this book...\"    \n\n\t used as an arguement against the deutercanonical books.\n\n\t I feel this is ridiculous for two reasons:\n\n\t 1.  They weren't added later by the Catholic Church; they were\n\t\t*always* part of what was considered inspired scripture.\n\t\t(This has been dealt with in previous postings...no reason\n\t\tto repeat the info.)\n\n\t2.  It is more likely than not that when St. John (or whomever) wrote\n\t\tthe book of Revelation WHAT WAS THEN CONSIDERED SCRIPTURE was\n\t\t** NOT ** the same thing you and I are holding in our hands!\n\n\tIf one takes the translation of \"this book\" in REV 18:22 (or somewhere\n\taround there) to mean \"all of scripture\", then all of us are likely\n\tholding something that is in violation of this command.\n\n\tIt is impossible to exactly date the scriptures, even the N.T. ones\n\t(they didn't like to date their letters, I guess).  I really wish I\n\thad my bible with me right now to get the facts straight, but I believe\n\tthat several of the N.T. letters, chief among them 2 Peter, have their\n\tmost likely date of composition in the early second century A.D.\n\t\tRevelation was almost certainly written durin the reign of \n\tDomition (sp?), A.D. 80-96.  Thus it could be argues that we are all\n\tin sin if we accept 2 Peter as scripture, since it was \"added\" to the\n\tbook after the composition of Revelation, when we are told to add \n\tnothing more.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nHey, Clayton, it's me again!  I just love your arguments.  They completely\nclinch each and _every_ one of your points!\n\nBut then again, that, I suppose, says a lot about how screwed up your are.\n\nHehe.  I haven't had so much fun since I started blasting christians in alt.atheism!\n\n\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nI wholeheartedly endorse it.\n\n I have no problem with the\n\nHaven't been to many A's games, have you?\n\nSeriously, I don't mind a baseball game that lasts a long time if it lasts\na long time because there is good baseball being played.  However, I don't\nlike 3-2 games that take 3+ hours, because there's a lot of dead time going\non in that game.  I don't find anything exciting about watching batter or\npitcher wander around between pitches, or watching the catcher make a slow\nwalk to the mound, or watching lots of pitcher changes for no good reason\n(Whitey Herzog used to be the master of this; the game could be way out of\nreach, and he'd still be making switches for platoon advantage).  \n\nI want to see the game, not people standing around.  I don't really enjoy\nwatching NFL football games in person, for example, because there's so much\ndead time (you don't really notice how much dead time there is if you watch\nit on television, because they're busy showing you replays).  I don't like\nthat college basketball games have so many time outs at the end of the game\n(the NCAA has made some moves to try to alleviate this problem for next\nyear: they're going to stop the clock after made baskets late in games next\nyear, and they're going to a 35 second clock).  \n\nThere's also a difference in how tolerant I am of long games if I'm\nwatching them on the tube, and if I'm going there in person.  For me, going\nto an A's game has become a major commitment of time, one that I'm not\nwilling to make that often:  the length of their games is costing the A's\nrevenue from me.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n    Falcon Microsystems of Landover MD, the sole Apple-authorized\nreseller to the federal government, has similar \"open market\" prices.\nThe upgrade is too new to be on General Services Adminsitration schedule\nyet.\n\t\t\t\t\t\tJoe Gurman","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Someone asked me if I there existed an init that removes the dialog\n   \"you're gonna disconnect all apletalk users \" or something\nlike that, when the powerbook falls asleep.\n\nHe said he was sure that such a thing existed, and he thought it was\nfreeware. Can anyone help me out with this ?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nI guess it's  kind of an aesthetics argument.\n\nI can see the solar arrays being expensive,  and  there could be\ncontingencies where you would be throwing away brand new\nsolar cells,   but  it seems so cheap compared toa shuttle\nmission, i wouldn't think they would bother.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nI posted that document (forgot part 1\/6 etc) but it was more than a summary,\nit was a complete technical description of the protocol. It can be ftped\nfrom simtel or from wuarchive.wustl.edu in mirrors\/msdos\/naplps\n\n\nWhy not write a NAPLPS decoder for your choice of platform and release the\ncode to the net? Then other willing souls can help port it to other platforms.\nNAPLPS was designed for this type of online interactive graphics much the\nsame as X, but while X is intended for high-bandwidth network connections,\nNAPLPS was optimized for low bandwidth modem connections.\n\nI'm sure you will receive other suggestions but look at it this way. If you\nwanted to provide a full network connection to Linux over a modem would you\nuse SLIP\/PPP or would you invent some new way? Most people would say that\nSLIP\/PPP exist and are reasonably well designed protocols, so lets just\nimplement them. I see it the same way with NAPLPS. It is an existing, well\nthought out, extensible protocol for online graphics, so why not implement\nit.\n\nIf you need any advice on implementation, just e-mail me. I am currently\ngetting a beta version of my CorelDraw to NAPLPS converter working well\nenough to release it by May 15. If you or someone else does not get going\non a freely available NAPLPS decoder, then I intend to do it after I get\na my conversion program out of beta, and get a couple of other things done.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"But you stated that this study was presented in a very accurate and\ndependable way.  This is confusing to the issue.\n\nAnd if you read this title it implies that; gay sex (homosexual sex)\nactivities are low compared to the general population that they surveyed.\n\n\n        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\nWell let us quibble- look at the above statement that you posted, I have marked\nit with '^^^^^^', IT STATES THAT 1% ARE EXCLUSIVELY HOMOSEXUAL- IT STATES 2% ARE\nOR HAVE ENGAGED IN HOMOSEXUAL SEX.\n\nAnd please not the use of adjective here \"HOMOSEXUAL SEX\".\n\nNow I stated that if we take 1% as homosexal this is a valid viewpoint.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nI never advocated \"hiding in the sand.\"  I'm advocating a peaceful\nsolution while a peaceful solution is possible.  Unless you want blood on\nyour hands.\n\n\nRead the above.\n\n\nI type corrected.  (:-)\n\n\nEnglish revolution-> what revolution?  They never had one.  \nIndia-> If they could get around their religion restrictions\nMexico-> Point Taken, I forgot about this one.  \nFrance-> Napoleon Bonepart would have something to say about this.\nHolland-> I didn't know they had one, won't comment because I don't know\nenough.\n\n\nActually, I consider the issue on topic.  When you start gambling with\nfire crackers, sooner or later, somebody is going to lose a hand.\n\n\nFine.  Exercise the right to free speech.  That's great!  But don't resort\nto armed violence until there's no other possibility.\n\n\nNo.  I believe there are bad cops, and good cops.  There are bad people,\nand good people.  (And all that grey inbetween.)  \n\nI have had the pleasure of knowing a police officer who did his best to\nuphold the laws he swore to defend.  I have also seen what happens when\npolice power is abused.\n\nDon't generalize in either direction.  It just causes problems.\n\n\nMe either.  Nice can of worms, ain't it?\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nHaving driven both, and having owned an SC300 for 14 months now, all I can\nsay is \"it depends\".  They're both great cars.  In fact, my wife and I\nare saving our pennies so we can get her the 300ZX convertible in a year.\nThe 300ZX handles like a dream, while the SC300 rides like a dream.\nFit and finish on both are excellent, but the Lexus gets the nod in\ncustomer satisfaction.  They're both very attractive, and hideously\nexpensive.  The resale value of the SC is better than the ZX.  The\n300ZX isn't available with traction control, which makes it a handful\non slippery surfaces.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"If you want to try a non-toxic solvent, there's one made of citrus that \nworks very well and doesn't take your skin off in the process.  One brand \nname I've used is Citra-Solve, but there are others too.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nThat's right.  Everyone.  Even infants who cannot speak as yet.  Even\na little child will rebelliously stick his finger in a light socket.\nEven a little child will not want his diaper changed.  Even a little\nchild will fight nap-time.\n\nSo far as Jesus saying \"everyone\":  \n\n    A certain ruler asked Jesus, \"Good teacher, what must I do to\n    inherit eternal life?\"\n\n    \"Why do you call me good?\"  Jesus answered.  \"No one is good--\n    except God alone.\"\n\nKen, the book of Romans states that we are born sinners.  We do\nnot grow into being a sinner.  We sin because we are sinners.  The\ncommon mistake, even in Christian circles, is to think the reverse\ntrue.    So for as surely as you grew to look like you parents,\nyou not only inherited their appearance, but also their sin nature.\nIt goes with being human.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I have a question about the autocheck-boxes in Windows.\nIs it a possibility to let the boxes have several different colors at the\nsame time?\n\nFrode Kvam :-)\n\n--\n_______________________________________________________________________________\n  _\/_\/_\/_\/_\/   _\/_\/_\/_\/        _\/_\/_\/     _\/_\/_\/       _\/_\/_\/_\/_\/\n  _\/           _\/      _\/    _\/      _\/   _\/    _\/     _\/\n  _\/           _\/      _\/    _\/      _\/   _\/      _\/   _\/\n  _\/_\/_\/       _\/_\/_\/_\/      _\/      _\/   _\/      _\/   _\/_\/_\/\n  _\/           _\/    _\/      _\/      _\/   _\/      _\/   _\/\n  _\/           _\/      _\/    _\/      _\/   _\/    _\/     _\/\n  _\/           _\/      _\/      _\/_\/_\/     _\/_\/_\/       _\/_\/_\/_\/_\/    (C)\n_______________________________________________________________________________\n  Name:         Frode Kvam\n  Univ:         University of Trondheim, dept of informatics\n  E-mail:       frode@ifi.unit.no\n  Snail-mail:   Lademoens Kirkealle 8\n                7042 TRONDHEIM\n  Voice:        + 47 7 50 45 06\n_______________________________________________________________________________","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I've been away for a couple of weeks and have become out of touch with the \nlatest information on the Diamond Viper Card.  Does anyone know if Diamond \nhas come out with any Vesa Driver updates lately?  Also, I was wondering \nwhat the latest Windows Driver version is up to now.\n\n\t\t\t\tThanks in advance,\n\t\t\t\t\tDan","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nHow is that possible?  He was on the Albuquerque Leftturns last year.\nHow could you possibly know what team he would be on if Manny Lee was\non his team last year.  After all, Manny Lee wasn't on his team last year,\nso it's complete, unfounded speculation to state that if he was on the\nsame team as Manny Lee last year, it would have been the team of the\nToronto Blue Jays.  Since he and Lee weren't on the same team, you\ncannot possibly objectively state what team they would have been on\nif they had both been on the same team.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nI quote from the journal, \"30 Days In the Church and In the World,\"\n1992, No. 8\/9, p. 29. \n\nRegarding the new draft of the Universal Catechism:\n\n\tIn procuring the common good of society the need could arise\n\tthat the aggressor be placed in the position where he cannot\n\tcause harm.  By virtue of this, the right and obligation of \n\tpublic authorities to punish with proportionate penalties,\n\tincluding the death penalty, is acknowledged.  For similar\n\treasons, legimate authorities have the right to impede\n\taggressors in society with the use of arms.  The Church's \n\ttraditional teaching has always been expressed and will \n\tcontinue to be expressed in the \n\tconsideration of the real conditions of common good and the\n\teffective means for preserving public order and personal\n\tsafety.  To the degree that means other than the death\n\tpenalty and military operations are sufficient to keep the\n\tpeace, then these non-violent provisions are to be preferred\n\tbecause they are more in proportion and in keeping with the\n\tfinal goal of protection of peace and human dignity.  \n\nAs is clearly shown by this excerpt, the Church's teaching on capital\npunishment remains today as it has always been in the past - in total\naccord with my sentiment that I do not disagree with the use of deadly\nforce in those cases for which this option is justifiable.  \n\n\nI seek to conform my will to the will of God as expounded by His\ninstrument of the visible Church here on earth whenever the question\nof faith or morals arises.  \n\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"My disk that had my joystick code that some of you were kind enough to mail\nme puked....specifically, I am looking for C code to read the position\nof joystick WITHOUT using int15h, i.e. accessing port 0x200\/0x201 directly.\n\nI need it in C becaues of memory model considerations.\n\nI only need to be able to read the X and Y position also.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n   Wow, look at alllthe pretty puddles!!!!\n\n  Jimmy crack koan, and I don't care, Jimmy crack koan and i don't care, Jimmy\ncrack Koan and i don't care, Zen Master's gone away.....\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nAre you in contact with her, is that what she said, or what you THINK\nher reason is?\n\nAlso, could it be possible that she is not replying because she has\nno reply that wouldn't confirm the worst suspicions?  If the suspicions\nare way out of pocket, one would think the person would be in there\nsaying so, and indicating WHY they are out of pocket.  Hiding behind\na veil of secrecy is not reassuring.\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":" ^^^^^^^\nSo how does Aerostitch hold up with this procedure?  I'm ordering mine\nMonday, May 3.  And I'm happy about it, too.  :-)  :-)\n\n  -Mike","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nI don't think the issue of whether infants have faith is relevant or not.\nCertainly they *can*, as the example of John in utero proves. I find the\ntranslation of Col 2 above odd in terms of the circumcision of christ,\nwhich the KJV and RSV put in terms of Christ's cricumcision which we, in\nunion with him *participate* in putting off the body of sins of the flesh.\n\nAlso, perhaps cor 2:12 is dividing the act of burial with him in baptism,\nwhich can be independant of faith, from the experience of rising with\nChrist by faith. Who says both are by faith? This interpretation has the\nadvantage of explaining those who are faithlessly baptized, for whom their\nbaptisim is not benefit, but serves to put them into the kingdom nonetheless.\n\nLike the israelites (all of them, children included) who were baptized in\nthe cloud and in the sea, it was of no advantage because they did not add\nto their baptism faith and obedience.\n\nBaptism does not impart faith, nor is it done strictly speaking on the\nbasis of the faith of the parent, but because of the covcenant promise of\nGod. It imparts grace, the grace of the kingdom, which can be a\npunishement in disguise if there is later apostacy.\n\n\n\nDo you teach a child to pray the Lord's prayer? Do you expect them to not\nsteal? They *can* have faith appropriate to their condition. And in the\nnew covenant, we shall no longer say: know the lord, for they shall all\nknow him from the least unto the greatest Heb 8:11.\n\n\nBut also according to Ezekiel 18, God will not hold innocent anyone on the\nbasis of anyone elses innocense. Thus Jesus could not be our federal head\nany more than adam, *IF* that's what ezekiel is talking about. Shall you\nmake ezekiel 18 contradict the second commandemnt as well?\n\n\n  >\n\nEzekiel 36:25-26 indicates that this new heart will be given by God,\nin the context of the sprinkling of water in baptism. It is the action of\nGod puting them into his new order, and not a question of\"personal\"\nfaith as such.\n\n\nBut the death that came to all because of sin is not just their personal\ndeath, but the dead state (originbal sin). We are in a covenant of death,\nbecause adam, our federal head gave over his dominion to the devil and death.\n\n\n\nWhile this psalm is figurative in it's language, it is not hyperbolic, and\nthe one does not necessarily imply the other. There is not other\nhyperbolic language in this psalm. What v 5 is likely refering to is \nwhat is symbolized by the OT cleanliness laws (which make intercourse and\nchildbrith both acts which caus uncleannes and seperation from God). The\nwhole psalm is in the language of OT ritual (hyssop, cleansing, burnt\noffering, etc) David's sin with bathsheba included this element, as he\ndid not ritually cleanse himself when he should have. \n\nBut what was symbolized by the OT ritual was the truth that sin was \npassed generationally. That's why the organ of generation had to be\ncut. That's why brith was unclean. Uncleanness was death, and all babies\nwere born dead, and needed to be washed to newness of life, which we have in\nbaptism today.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"=Having read in the past about the fail-safe mechanisms on spacecraft, I had\n=assumed that the Command Loss Timer had that sort of function.  However I\n=always find disturbing the oxymoron of a \"NO-OP\" command that does something.\n=If the command changes the behavior or status of the spacecraft it is not\n=a \"NO-OP\" command.\n\nUsing your argument, the NOOP operation in a computer isn't a NOOP, since it\ncauses the PC to be incremented.\n\n=Of course this terminology comes from a Jet Propulsion Laboratory which has\n=nothing to do with jet propulsion.\n\nOf course, the complaint comes from someone who hasn't a clue as to what he's\ntalking about.\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nCarl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI\/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nThis is stupid.  Won't it cost more to those companies hoping to \nserve the gov't and private markets if they DON'T use the same\ntechnology?\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"SUBSCRIBE XPERT skji@eve.kaist.ac.kr\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"In <1993Apr24.214843.10940@midway.uchicago.edu> eeb1@quads.uchicago.edu\n\n\nI already responded to this on one dimension, but afterthoughts cause\nme to make another, independent reply.  The problem with a \"moment of\nsilence\" is that it is NOT an even-handed way of \"allowing\" for religion\namongst students in the public schools.  As I noted before, Muslims need\nmore than a moment of silence in order to perform the prayers they are\nrequired by Muhammad to do.  And (at least Orthodox) Jewish prayer also\nhas requirements that are not addressed by this.\n\nThere is, in fact, a highly selective BIAS towards Christian prayer in\nthis \"moment of silence\" shit.  And that is especially bizarre in that\nChristian prayer DOESN'T NEED this stuff -- a Christain may pray totally\nincognito AT ANY TIME (to some extent, this is true of Muslims and Jews\nas well -- what I intend in my first paragraph is that there *are* some\ncharacteristic forms of prayer in *these* religions which DO need special\ntimes and\/or behavior, which cannot be undertaken without an observer \nbeing able taking note of it.)\n\nA Christian may pray, at ANY time -- silently and without any trace of\nhis activity being evident to others.  That may or may not be true of the\nother religious traditions amongst us: certainly, these tend to have SOME\nforms of prayer that WOULD evidence differences from American\/Protestant\n\"mainstream\" religion.\n\nAll that a \"moment of silence\" does is to allow THAT ONE tradition which\ndoesn't NEED it, to have a \"special\" place set aside in the public schools.\nThere is NOTHING in Christian prayer that requires public forms, or rugs,\nor phylacteries, or anything else at all visible to the outside world.  A\nChristian student MAY (and probably does) pray at innumerable times during\nthe day, without anyone else knowing it.  [That may also be true of non-\nChristians -- I am not claimng otherwise].  In the \"moment of silence\" it\nwould STILL be difficult for the Jews to gather and daven, for the Muslims\nto do their ablutions and find qiblah to Mecca and engage in the prescribed\nforms.  But *of course* Christians can do *their* thing -- and therefore,\nthe provision is nothing but a disguised attempt to encourage just that.\n\nLuckily, there *is* a strong Jewish presence in this country (and I, as\na Christian, revere some of the Jewish teachers I had in public schools),\nand a growing Muslim presence as well.  I can only hope that the political\nforces consequent on this will PREVENT the imposition of Christian forms\non non-Christians.\n\nAs far as I can see (as a Christian) there is NOTHING in this \"moment of\nsilence\" campaign but an attempt to use PUBLIC social pressure to FORCE\nchildren to adhere to a pattern that is biased towards Christianity.  And\nas a Christian, I *must* protest such coercion.  For what it's worth, I\nsuspect that the coercion is not really targeted at the non-Christians --\nit is yet another case of FAILURE amongst Christian parents in \"making\"\ntheir children prayerful, so that they want the public schools to teach\nwhat THEY cannot manage to teach, despite having all the opportunity in\nthe world to do so.\n\nIf you have taught your children to pray, they do NOT need a moment of\nsilence in school.  If you have NOT managed to teach them, the moment\nwill only embarrass you.  Give it up.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Yes, the local sheriff stated that anytime he wanted to talk to Koresh, all\nhe had to do was call him and Koresh would come down.\n\n\n\nFull agree with you here.  I think its ridiculous that he did not even talk\nto Janet Reno until sometime Tuesday, however, he did talk with Wendell\nHubbel(?).  So who really is the Attorney General????\n\n\nHopefully the investigation will answer some of these bizarre questions.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\tThe \"R Us\" is not trademarked, but the \"Backwards R Us\" is, I \nbelieve.\n\n\n\n---\n\n  Speaking of proofs of God, the funniest one I have ever seen was in a\n  term paper handed in by a freshman.  She wrote, \"God must exist, because\n  he wouldn't be so mean as to make me believe he exists if he really\n  doesn't!\"  Is this argument really so much worse than the ontological\n  proofs of the existence of God provided by Anselm and Descartes, among\n  others?","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"To encourage the great tradition of Red Sox negativism, I am having a \ncontest to predict the magnitude of the Sox' fall from their current \nheights.  You must decide first, whether the Sox will be at .500 again\nat any time during this year.  Then you must predict either:\n\n(1) Their record the first time they're at .500, if they are, or\n\n(2) Their final record, if they stay above .500 the rest of the year.\n\nSo Valentine's earlier prediction would go as \"13-13\" (resend it if you \nwere serious, Val!).\n\nESPN pointed out last night that the last Sox start better than this was\nin 1952, when they finished 76-78, in sixth place.\n\nSo email me your guess, either at \"barring@cs.washington.edu\" or directly\nreplying to this post.\n\nEntries close 5 pm PDT on Wed 28 Apr 1993.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nThat's fine idea, but it only works if the lighting\/power company even bothers to supply good light fixtures.  For instance, a power company in Virginia \nrecently asked a state commission for permission to sell more lights of various\ntype.  Yet, all of the different fixture that they sold and wanted to sell\nwere bad designs - one that wasted the light.  Thus, you couldn't even buy\na good light from them.  In most places, to get a good light, you have to\neither order it special at high cost or call a store in Arizona.  At some\npoint, society starts to make rules.  Cars have to pass safety tests.  \nCompanies have to meet pollution standards, etc..  There are two ways to achieve this:  educate the public so that they demand good lighting or force code\ndown the lighting companies backs.  History seems to suggest that the latter\nis more likely to work.\n\nAgreed, so I won't respond again.  It's important for all you spacers out \nthere to realize that some people will object to various wild ideas that \nhave been presented.  Just like Congress, it would be best to consult\nthe astronomers\/lovers of the night sky before you try some PR stunt\nto boost public knowledge about space.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nWhat is so honorable about placing bombs in passenger airliners,\npromising to execute Rushdie, killing 1-2 million people in the\nIran\/Iraq war, murdering tourists and persecuting ethinc Christians in\nEgypt, massacring Christians in Sudan, harassing Christians in and \nbarring Jews from Saudi Arabia?  How are paranoid Muslims \"righteous\nin defending themsselves\" in these situations?  Who are they even\nafraid of?\n\n\nConsidering that you seem to be posting from central New Jersey, this\nis an odd comment coming from you.  I dare you to speak your mind in\nthe Middle East in any country besides Israel.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nRight.\n\n\nThe Branch Dividians were. They believed and trusted so much that it became\nimpossible to turn back to reality. What you are advocating is total\nirreversible brainwashing.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nUtopia is a myth (although we can do a lot better than what we have today).\nBut I think that you must pitch Libertarianism as a progressive agenda\n(ie You can do better under our style of system).\n\n\nI'm flattered by your invitation, but I'm afraid you have the wrong person.\nAlthough I completely agree with your civil liberties agenda, I'm not \nin support of your economic agenda. What I DO like about the Libertarian\nparty is that you guys are so good at shaking up the tired ideas of the\npast. I encourage you guys to continue your crusade, but I'm afraid I\ncan't ride along. \n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\"Nothing is as inevitable as a mistake whose time has          Garrett Johnson\n come.\" --Tussman                                           Garrett@Ingres.com\n\"The probability of someone watching you is proportional\nto the stupidity of your action.\" - Unknown","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"[...]\n[...]\n[...]\n\n\"Hey, what the hell do you mean by that?  You suck.  I have a god-given\nright to express opinions, carry a gun and to not wear a helmet, goddamn \nit. Everything you stand for is STUPID.\"\n\n\n\n\nYou know, Alan, I really like this one.\n\n\n-----\nTommy McGuire\nmcguire@cs.utexas.edu\nmcguire@austin.ibm.com","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I am posting this for a friend.  PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS ACCOUNT!!!\n\nIf you are interested in any of the following, ask for Rob at (510) 521-3147.\n\nLaptop PC: $1200\n- 386SX 20MHz CPU\n- 4 MB RAM\n- 120 MB Hard Drive\n- VGA Graphics (32 Greyscale) LCD\n- External VGA Port\n- 3.5\" High Density Floppy Drive\n- Removable 101-key keyboard\n- External keyboard port\n- 2 Serial, 1 Parallel and 1 Expansion ports\n- Expansion unit available, which has 2 full-size card slots\n\nBernoulli Drive: $400\n- Dual 20 MB Disk Drives\n- 20 MB cartridges (comes with 4 disks)\n- External unit\n\nScanner: $50\n- Logitech Scanman","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"jwindley@cheap.cs.utah.edu (Jay Windley) writes...\n\n[...]\n\n\nThis is curious. I read in _EH_...\n\n\"The Lord imparted the gift of knowledge to James the Just, to John \nand Peter after his resurrection, these delivered it to the rest of \nthe apostles, and they to the seventy, of whom Barnabas was one.\"\n\t\t\t \n\t\t\t--- Eusebius, _Ecclesiastical History_\n\nIt seems that the Lord imparted the gift of knowledge, not that the\nLord imparted secret information.\n\n[...]\n\n\nI'm afraid that I cannot find this portrayal in _EH_. \nI don't see anywhere in 3:32:7-8 where Eusebius mentions that certain \ngnostics had the wrong gnosis.\n\nThe closest is when Eusebius summarizes Hegesippus' statements, \n\"...whilst if there were any at all, that attempted to pervert \nthe sound doctrine of the saving gospel, they were yet skulking \nin dark retreats...\"\n\n\n\"Favorably interpreted?\" Just in looking at two of the four \nreferences that you gave (I have the _EH_ handy, Irenaeus and the \n_Clemetine Recognitions_ I will have to look for) I see no room for \nsuch 'interpretations.'\n\nAnd any such 'interpretation' still falls short of an equivalence to \nthe Temple Ceremonies. \n\nThe links for Jay's using _EH_ for support are: \"imparting the gift \nof knowledge\" = \"imparted secret information\" = \"being given secret \nsigns and tokens to gain entrance to heaven.\"  But there is not\nenough equivalence between the the ideas for us to be able to call \nthis \"favorable interpretation.\"  It appears to be closer to \n\"fabrication.\"","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nYour hearing curve sounds a lot like mine (thanks, Uncle Sam!).  I've been\nwearing Miracle Ear canal aids for about 5 months now and I find them to be\nacceptable.  They are molded to the shape of your ear canal, and tuned to \nyour hearing curve.  They are comfortable to wear and almost invisible, if\nyou're worried about that (although if you're currently wearing behind the\near models, that's not an issue).  The cost:  I paid $1200 each for mine,\nthrough the Miracle Ear counter at Sears.  I've heard that there is a\nsubstantial discount for senior citizens, but I haven't researched that, because\nI'm not a senior citizen, yet!\n\nGive them a try; you might be pleasantly surprised!\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"(Martin Vuille) writes...\n\n\n\tPCMCIA\n\t1030G East Duane St\n\tSunnyvale, CA 94086 USA\n\t408-720-0107\n\n\tSee also:\n\talt.periphs.pcmcia","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Any rocky mountain spotted fever experts out there ?\n\nThe doctor thinks a friend might have this.\nThe question is, doesn't the tick have to bite you ?\n\nYou frequently find a tick crawling on you after a walk\nin the woods around here, but you tend to notice it before\nit bites you; pulling one out of your skin is something\nyou're not likely to forget.\n\nCan you get the fever without it biting you ?  Do they\nsometimes bite you and then let go so you don't realize\nyou were bitten ?  I know they will let go once they've had\ntheir fill, but you certainly would notice this (arggh).\n\nSo how do you get the fever if you never pulled a tick\noff yourself (as opposed to finding one merely crawling\non you) ?","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nMy ex-husband & I used to own Borgwards.  Haven't seen any for a long\ntime.  They were really good cars.  Does ayone out there know anything\nabout them now?  I heard they were being made in Mexico, but of course\nthey wouldn't be the original German - if that's even true.  When I've\nbeen in Mexico I haven't seen any.  We loved ours, even tho' they were\nugly - they had names - one was Humphrey Borgward.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nStole 300 bases.  (Ok, he's still light-hitting, but baseball managers don't\nthink so, they think he, like Omar Moreno before him, is a perfect leadoff\nman.  Awesome defense.)\n\n\nHe's still around because of his 1986, when he hit 20 HR.\n\n\nHasn't played 10+ years in the bigs.  Wasn't a full-time major-leaguer\nuntil 1988.\n\n\nConsistent .300 hitter.\n\n\nWe'll see if he's still around in 1994 for his tenth year.\n\n\nSame goes for Herm.\n\n\nDoesn't count then.\n\n\nRedus is hardly light-hitting, plus he stole 300 bases.  Close to\n800 OPS career against LHP.\n\n\nWe'll see if he's still around in 1995 to qualify.\n\n\nSlugged .416 to .440 for three straight years in one of the worst hitters'\nparks in the NL.  He's going to be one of Colorado's better players this\nyear.  Plus, to make ten you have to count all the time he spent in Denver\nand Buffalo and Hawaii while with the White Sox.\n\n\nColeman, assuming he makes it to 1994, was never perceived as being\nweak offensively, though of course he was.  Led NL in SB his first six\nyears in the majors.\n\n\nWe'll see if he's still around in 1997.\n\n\nWilson has always been overrated, but hit .300 five times in a six-year\nstretch and led the league in triples five times.  But we can count him\nif he's still playing in 1994, though it'll be because he's Otis Nixon\ndeluxe with slightly worse defense.\n\n\nOkay, if he's in the league this year, he can count, though he's also\nin the majors because of Otis Nixon syndrome.\n\n\nHe's not spectacular, but he's neither light-hitting nor a ten-year man.\n\n\nHalfway there, and unlikely to make it 3\/4 of the way there.\n\n\nBrock suffered from Otis Nixon disease, but he wasn't perceived as\nlight-hitting.  Neither was Curt Flood.  Cesar Cedeno was *not* light-\nhitting.\n\n\nHe'll have to steal a lot more bases.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nCould someone explain where these names come from?   I'm sure there's a \nperfectly good reason to name a planetoid \"Smiley,\" but I'm equally sure that\nI don't know what that reason is.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Microsoft is the largest software company on the planet, yet I cannot think\nof even *ONE* computing concept that they innovated and brought to market\nbefore anyone else.  Xerox-PARC\/Apple, Osborne, NeXT, GNU and others have \nbeen pioneers and led the way to the future of computing.  What has\nmicrosoft done to be a technological leader?  I posted this question before,\nbut I got nary a reply.  I make the challenge now to anyone who can come up\nwith something-especially Microsoft employees.  I get no response this time,\nI guess it pretty much assures me that there is none--which is what I\nsuspect anyway.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nAt Algor's insistance, the shaped charge will automatically detonate after\nthirty years, a la \"Logan's Run,\" in order to maintain population control.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I am upgrading my hard drive so I am selling this 40 M drive, it run\ngreat, without any problem, for $90 and share the shipping.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"molecules has evolved from an esoteric academic subject into\na  international  industry. Computer  graphics has played  a\ndecisive role in this transformation by allowing chemists to\nbuild, visualize and interact with complex geometrical objects.\n \nWhile computer scientists are conversant in the language of their\nown discipline, they are often unfamiliar with the terminology,\nsimulation techniques and practical needs of research chemists.\nSimilarly, chemists are often unfamiliar with the latest paradigms\nand technological advances in graphical computing.\n \nThis interdisciplinary course is intended to bridge the gap\nbetween computer science and chemistry and to equip chemistry\nresearchers who wish to be more than just casual users of\nprepackaged graphics software. Although this is not intended to\nbe a course in computational chemistry or drug design, data sets\nfrom chemical research problems will be used in lab and students\nwill be encouraged to bring data sets of their own. Lab exercises\nand projects will be carried out using data-flow programming\n(IBM Visualization Data Explorer software) and students will have\naccess to Cornell Theory Center computing resources, including video\nrecording equipment.\n \nAudience:  researchers and students in the chemical and biological\n           sciences interested in integrating state-of-the-art\n           computer graphics into their research; computer scientists\n           wishing to gain familiarity with a major application of\n           scientific visualization.\n \n           The class size will be limited to 25 participants on a\n           first-come first-served basis.\n \nLevel:     Graduate\/advanced undergraduate, 1 or 2 Credits. May be taken\n           without credit as a workshop. Calculus, linear algebra\n           and introductory chemistry required. Familiarity with Unix,\n           X-windows and C is useful but not required.\n \nDate:   June 14-25, 1993  (2 Credits)\n        June 14-18, 1993  (1 or 0 credits)\n \nTime:   Mon-Fri 9:00 am to 12:00 pm and 1:00 pm to 4:00 pm\n \nCost:   0 or 1 credit       $410\n        2 credits           $820\n \nFormat\n \nThe course will be held in the Theory Center training facility\nwhere computer workstations will be available.  Daily lectures will be\ninterspersed with laboratory exercises and ample time will be provided\nfor project enablement and familiarization with the new computing\nenvironment. Students enrolled for one credit will be graded on the basis\nof their laboratory exercises and short final project. Those enrolled\nfor a second credit will receive more advanced lectures, be given\nmore time for project development and meet daily to share experience\nand discuss problems encountered.\n \nContent (may vary)\n \n    Elements of computer graphics\n         polygonal rendering, lighting models, ray tracing, volumetric\n         rendering, stereo graphics, animation, introduction to data-flow\n         programming (DX), interactivity.\n \n    Representing the atom\n         size, time and energy scales\n         basic classical and quantum mechanics\n \n    Important categories of molecules\n         small molecules, biopolymers, surfaces and catalysts,\n         miscellaneous current applications\n \n    Data formats and conversions\n \n    Advanced molecular graphics techniques\n \n    Types of simulation and experiment\n         electronic structure, molecular dynamics\/mechanics\n         electrostatics, X-ray crystallography, NMR, quantum\n         dynamics and spectroscopy.\n \nInstructors\n \nThe course will be taught by two instructors. Topics related to computer\ngraphics will be handled by Dr. Bruce Land, Project Leader of Visualization,\nCornell National Supercomputing Facility. Chemistry-specific aspects\nof the course will be handled by Dr. Richard E. Gillilan, Visualization\nSpecialist and Research Scientist, Cornell National Supercomputing Facility\n \nTO REGISTER:  mail completed form to\n \n              Cornell University\n              School of Continuing Education\n              and Summer Sessions\n              B20 Day Hall\n              Ithaca, NY 14853-2801\n \nQuestions:  Richard Gillilan (607) 254-8757\n            richard@tc.cornell.edu\n \nIMPORTANT: Acceptance will be first-come, first-served and based\n           on a target class size of 15 full-credit and 10 single\n           or non-credit participants.\n \nDEADLINE:   May 20, 1993\n \n \n----------------------- Application Form ----------------------\n \n         Scientific Visualization of Chemical Systems\n \n            Chemistry 782    Computer Science 718\n \nU.S. Social Security number (if available) _____ - ___ - _______\n \nCornell ID number (if available) ________________\n \nName: _______________________________________________________________\n         Last            First         Middle        Suffix (Jr, etc)\n \nAddress: _____________________________________________________________\n \n         _____________________________________________________________\n \n         _____________________________________________________________\n \n \nHome Address (where grades will be mailed):\n \n         _____________________________________________________________\n \n         _____________________________________________________________\n \n         _____________________________________________________________\n \nLocal Phone ________________   Home Phone _______________\n \n \nAcademic Discipline _____________________________\n \n \nCourse number (check one):   __ Chemistry  __ Computer Science\n \nCredits:       __.__\n \nStatus:     __ Undergraduate Student   __ Smart Node Consultant\n            __ Graduate Student        __ Smart Node Advisor\n            __ Post-Doctoral\n            __ Faculty                 __ Other (explain) _______________\n \nCorporate Commercial\n \n            __ Research Staff          __ Other (explain) ______________\n \nName of Firm ___________________________________________________________\n \nIndicate which of the following best describes you (optional):\n \n  __ African American  __ Alaskan Native     __ Asian American\n  __ Caucasian         __ Hispanic American  __ Native American\n \nList special needs (e.g. mobility impaired): ____________________________\n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n \nAccommodations:\n \nBlocks of rooms are available at the Sheraton. Reservations\nmust be made no later than May 17. Be sure to tell them you\nare here for the \"Cornell Theory Center Visualization Workshop\".\n \n    Sheraton Inn\n         One Sheraton Drive, Ithaca\n         (607) 257-2000\n         FAX: 607-257-398\n         Rates starting at $64.00\n \nOther local motels (Make your reservation early! Our\nworkshop coincides with other Cornell events)\n \nEcono Lodge\n        Cayuga Mall 2303 N. Triphammer Rd. Ithaca\n        (607) 257-1400\n        (800) 466-6900\n        FAX: (607) 257-6359\n        Rates from $35.10 (ask for the Cornell Rate)\n \n \nDorm rooms have also been reserved participants\n(both credit and non-credit). Participants who\nare interested in dorm rooms should call (below)\nfor registration information:","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Hi people!:\n\n\n  I'm looking for X Servers for DOS or Windows.\n\n  I've already seen Desqview\/X and XVision but I'd like to be\n aware of other choices.\n\n  Is there anything on the public domain or shareware ?\n\n  And in the commercial area is there anything with aggressive\n pricing ?\n\n  What about incompatibilities ? Window managers ?\n\n  Any info is welcome.\n\n\n\n  Thanx in advance.\n\n\n  C U!\n \n  By(e)","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Actually, you might be surprised to find that not everyone who develops\nmainstream DOS and Windows apps develops them under DOS or Windows.  PC\nWeek recently printed a rumor that Microsoft's Excel development group\ndoes its development under OS\/2.  Another trade rag did an article\nrecently about a group doing Windows development on Sun SPARCstations\nwith SoftPC to test out their work.  SCO Unix is and has been a\nreasonably popular development platform for DOS, Windows, and even OS\/2\napps.  DOS and Windows are simply not robust or stable enough for\ndevelopment work, IMHO, and apparently others agree.\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Hi there,\n\nDoes anyone know whether the PUFF RF design package is available\nvia ftp from any site? As I understand it, it is in the public\ndomain - please correct me if I'm wrong on this one.\n\nAny other PD RF design tools out there that can be recommended?\nEspecially microstrip filter tools...\n\n73's\nLehane\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nYep.  And the Ks don't have to denote a slow game, either.  Last night,\nSid Fernandez was mowing the Giants hitters down (14 Ks in 8 innings),\nyet the first 7 1\/2 innings of the game were quite brisk.\n\nHe also threw 119 pitches, leading me to believe it isn't just the\nnumber of pitches that determines the length of a game, but the \nbehavior *between* pitches.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nI've done some ASIC and digital design, but not any CPU design.\nIt would seem to me that on a 486, the FPU is not being used, most of\nthe cache is not being accessed, the off chip buffers\/drivers are idle,\nthe multiplier isn't multiplying, the barrel shifters aren't shifting,\nmicrocode isn't microcoding, etc.  This means transistors aren't\nswitching which means less power dissipated (in CMOS), which means\nless heat.\\\n\nFrom what I understand, the Pentium shuts down those sections of the\nCPU which aren't being used in order to cut down on heat\/power.\n\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI think the subject title says it all. Anybody that relies on a SCSI dick\nfor stoarage is a pain in the ass!!\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"o Denon DCR 5490 (high power pull out cassette deck with CD changer control)\n\n  Features:\n\n  - 18 W X 4\n  - Theft Prevention Chassis (pull out)\n  - 24 station-presets (18 FM, 6 AM)\n  - Denon Optimum Reception System IV (FM circuitry-Auto high blend and FM\n    pulse noise cancellor)\n  - Dolby B NR\n  - Key off head release\n  - Flexible fader-internal front amp to rear amp and\/or internal front amp\n    to internal rear amp\n  - Auto reverse cassette mechanism\n  - Up\/down manual & seek tuning\n  - Music sensor\n  - Stereo\/Mono (FM), local switches\n  - Metal tape switch\n  - DIN \"E\" with easy installation lock-in sleeve\n  - Night illumination with dash light dimmer lead\n  - Preset scan\n  - CD changer control\n        Random play: all of tracks on a disc\n        Automatic\/Manual search\n\n  Excellent condition with Manual.\n\n  Asking $220.00 + shipping\n\no Yamaha YPA-300 power amplifier (car audio)\n  Features:\n        - SELECTABLE 2-MODE POWER OUTPUT:\n          40W x 2-ch or 90W x 1-ch - all w\/ extremely low distortion (0.1% THD)\n        - LOW RFI CIRCUIT effectively eliminates radio frequency interference\n          which might arise from DC-DC conversion\n        - FULL PROTECTION CIRCUITRY protects amplifier from potential damaged\n          caused by overload, short circuiting, DC leakage, excessive heat\n          or mis-wiring.\n        - INPUT LEVEL ADJUSTMENT allows you to complement your system with any\n          audio component\n        - GOLD-PLATED RCA JACK ensures a durable, optimum contact, even under\n          rugged road conditions.\n        - REMOTE POWER links the entire system's ON\/OFF with the cassette\n          receiver's ot tuner's power switch.\n        - SCREW TERMINALS allow simple wiring connections\n        - POWER FUSE REPLACEMENT is a simple, one-step operation.\n        - ALTERNATER NOISE REDUCTION CIRCUITRY is effectively suppressed\n          during driving.\n  Specifications:\n    Continuous Power Output\n          (per channel, 4 ohms, 2 channels driven.)\n          with 0.1 % THD, 20 Hz ~ 20kHz .................35W\/35W\n          with 0.1 % THD, 1 kHz .........................40W\/40W\n          (per channel, 4 ohms, 1 channels driven.)\n          with 0.1 % THD, 20 Hz ~ 20kHz ................80W(BTL)\n          with 0.1 % THD, 1 kHz ........................90W(BTL)\n    Speaker Impedance................................4 to 8 ohms\n    Frequency Response (at 1W, 4 ohms)......10 Hz to 100 kHz (+0, -1.5dB)\n    Signals-to-Noise Ratio ...............................105 dB\n    Total Harmonic Distortion\n        - (at 20W + 20W, 1 kHz, 4 ohms, 24 kHz, LPF)......0.005%\n    Dimensions (W x H x D).....................200 x 50 x 156 mm\n    Weight..........................................5 lbs. 15 oz\n\n    List price: $250.00\n\n    This is one of the nicest\/cleanest amp that I have even owned.\n    I am using two of these in my car, this is just an extra one that\n    I don't really need.  If you are in the bay area, and like to listen\n    to it first, let me know.\n\n    Asking $150.00 firm + shipping (brand new in box, never been installed)\n\n\no Boston Acoustic 861 seperates (car audio speakers), 6\" woofers\n  with seperate tweeters and crossovers.\n  Brand new in box, never been installed, $259.00 at Good Guys\n  Asking $199.00 firm\n\no 2 8\" MTX free air woofers, new in box, never been installed.\n  Paid $49.00 each at Good Guys\n  Asking $70.00 firm","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\n\tI've got an older 386\/25 motherboard (old as in, uses a 1988\nkeyboard controller, and uses memory interleaving rather than caching).\nIt has developed a problem where trying to copy files from floppy cause\nthe machine to lock up (reset button required), but only when in 386\nenhanced mode.  This occurs in Norton Desktop, File Manager, and when\ntrying to install software.  Running Win 3.1 in standard mode works fine.\n\n\tHas anyone run into this?  Any ideas?  Much thanks appreciated.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nOkay, here's what to do.   Get a drill and a sanding disk. Use, say a \n100 disk and go at it at a very low rpm.  If you don't have a drill, try\ncoarse steel wool and brake fluid.  Dot 4 has an uncanny knack for removing\n_any_ paint imperfections.\n\nOh, I'm not responsible for misuse or miapplication of either of these\ntechniques.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"  \n\n\nGreg,\nNo flame intended, but I think you just missed one of the rare attempts of\nhumor in sci.skeptic.\n\"Krillean\" against \"Kirilian\". Get it?\n;-)\n\nBTW, I think you're a bit of base yourself, since, to my knowledge, the\nelectromagnetic field around a stone is rather abscent. But still, a stone\nhas a nice \"aura\" on the Kirilian photographs.\n\nDon't remember excactly, but \"corona discharge\" I think is a more fitting\nexpression than aura. Think you'll find something on this in the skeptic-faq.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"To those who own CMS's Trakkers...please email me with your thoughts on your\nmachine...and specifics such as avg. file access..etc","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"=>Greg:Flame definitely intended here.  Bill was making fun of the misspelling. \n=>Go look up the word \"krill.\"  Also, the correct spelling is Kirlian.  It\n=>involves taking photographs of corona discharges created by attaching the\n=>subject to a high-voltage source, not of some \"aura.\"  It works equally well\n=>with inanimate objects.\n=\n=True.. but what about showing the missing part of a leaf?  Is this\n=\"corona discharge\"?\n\nYup.  The demonstration to which you refer consists of placing a leaf between\nthe plates, and taking a Kirlian photograph of it.  You then cut off part of\nthe leaf, put the top plate back on, and take another Kirlian photograph.  You\nsee pretty much the same image in both cases.  Turns out the effect isn't\nnearly so striking if you take the trouble to clean the plates between\nphotographs.  Seems that the moisture from the leaf that you left on the place\nconducts electricity.  Surprise, surprise!\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nCarl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI\/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n[stuff about Mithras deleted]\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Gerry Palo wrote that there is nothing in Christianity that excludes\nthe theory of a succession of lives.\n\nI wrote that the Apostle Paul, in Romans 9, speaks of God as\nchoosing Jacob over Esau, and adds that this is not as a result of\nanything that either child had done, since they had not been born\nyet.\n\nClearly, Paul does not believe that they had had previous lives, nor\ndoes he suppose that his readers will believe it. For if they had\nhad previous lives, it would not make sense to say, \"Neither of them\nhas done anything good or bad as yet, since they are not yet born.\"\n\nDaniel Cossack writes to ask whether it is fair for God to hate\nEasau when Esau has done nothing bad?\n\nI reply that in Hebrew it is standard usage to speak of hating when\nwhat is meant is simply putting in second place. As an example,\nconsider the saying in Matthew 6:24\n\n + No man can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one\n + and love the other, or....\n\nNow, it is obviously false that a man with two masters must hate one\nof them. But it is obviously true that he must put one of them in\nsecond place. A dog that always comes when either Billy or Bobby\ncalls will have a problem if they stand in different places and call\nsimultaneously. It cannot give first priority to both. One must take\nsecond place. In our original example, second place means that\nJacob, not Esau, is chosen to bear the covenant blessing and\nobligation, and to be the ancestor of Christ.\n\n     *****     *****     *****     *****     *****\n\nEugene Bigelow mentions Matthew 11:14 which says of John the\nBaptist:\n\n + And if ye will receive it, this is ELijah, who was to come.\n\nI take this to mean that John was an Elijah-like figure, dressing\nand living like Elijah, preaching like Elijah, and fulfilling the\nprediction that Elijah would prepare the way for the Messiah.  I do\nnot think that he was Elijah in a literal sense, and, appareently,\nneither did he (John 1:21).","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"& \n& If this is the same as adjusting the shims between cam and valve, I have\n& the same question.  Do you buy a FULL set of shims before starting the\n& adjustment process, or do you calculate the shims you need and then run\n& off to the dealer in the cage to see if the right shims are in stock? \n& Obviously the latter would be cheaper (what do shims cost?), but are\n& measurements of the shim need reliable enough to buy only the indicated shims?\n\nOnly buy what you need.  It would cost a lot to buy a full set, and\nyou won't ever use most of them.  I have had good luck with the\ncalculation method.  I have never had to change more than one size\nincrement at a time (I never needed a change larger than the next\nsize up\/down, usually down).  They cost a few $ each for a Yamaha.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"MLB Standings and Scores for Wednesday, April 21st, 1993\n\t                   (including yesterday's games)\n\nNATIONAL WEST\t      Won  Lost   Pct.    GB   Last 10  Streak    Home   Road\nSan Francisco Giants   09   05    .643    --     8-2     Won 2   05-02  04-03\nHouston Astros         07   06    .538   1.5     7-3    Lost 1   02-04  05-02\nAtlanta Braves         08   07    .533   1.5     4-6     Won 1   04-03  04-04\nLos Angeles Dodgers    06   08    .429   3.0     4-6    Lost 1   03-03  03-05\nSan Diego Padres       05   08    .385   3.5     4-6    Lost 1   03-04  02-04\nColorado Rockies       04   08    .333   4.0     4-6    Lost 2   03-03  01-05\nCincinnati Reds        04   09    .308   4.5     3-7     Won 2   02-04  02-05\n\nNATIONAL EAST\nPhiladelphia Phillies  10   03    .769    --     7-3     Won 2   06-01  04-02\nSt. Louis Cardinals    08   05    .615   2.0     6-4     Won 1   05-02  03-03\nChicago Cubs           07   06    .538   3.0     6-4     Won 1   04-03  03-03\nMontreal Expos         07   06    .538   3.0     5-5     Won 2   04-03  03-03\nPittsburgh Pirates     07   06    .538   3.0     4-6    Lost 4   03-03  04-03\nNew York Mets          06   06    .500   3.5     4-6    Lost 2   02-04  04-02\nFlorida Marlins        04   09    .308   6.0     3-7    Lost 2   02-05  02-04\n\n\nAMERICAN WEST         Won  Lost   Pct.    GB   Last 10  Streak    Home   Road\nTexas Rangers          08   04    .667    --     6-4    Lost 1   04-02  04-02\nCalifornia Angels      07   04    .636   0.5     6-4     Won 1   04-02  03-02\nMinnesota Twins        07   05    .583   1.0     6-4     Won 1   04-03  03-02\nChicago White Sox      06   07    .462   2.5     4-6     Won 1   02-03  04-04\nOakland Athletics      05   06    .455   2.5     4-6     Won 1   05-02  00-04\nSeattle Mariners       05   08    .385   3.5     3-7    Lost 1   03-03  02-05\nKansas City Royals     04   09    .308   4.5     4-6     Won 2   02-05  02-04\n\nAMERICAN EAST\nBoston Red Sox         11   03    .786    --     8-2     Won 4   06-01  05-02\nDetroit Tigers         08   05    .615   2.5     7-3     Won 1   06-01  02-04\nToronto Blue Jays      07   06    .538   3.5     5-5    Lost 1   04-02  03-04\nNew York Yankees       06   07    .462   4.5     5-5    Lost 3   03-03  03-04\nMilwaukee Brewers      04   06    .400   5.0     4-6    Lost 1   02-02  02-04\nCleveland Indians      05   09    .357   6.0     3-7    Lost 2   04-03  01-06\nBaltimore Orioles      04   08    .333   6.0     4-6    Lost 1   02-04  02-04\n\n\n\t\t\t     YESTERDAY'S SCORES\n                  (IDLE teams listed in alphabetical order)\n\nNATIONAL LEAGUE\t\t\t\tAMERICAN LEAGUE\n\nHouston Astros\t        1\t\tChicago White Sox\t2\nChicago Cubs\t        2\t\tBaltimore Orioles\t1 (14)\n\nLos Angeles Dodgers\t3\t\tTexas Rangers\t\t1\nMontreal Expos\t\t7\t\tDetroit Tigers\t\t3\n\nCincinnati Reds\t\t5\t\tMilwaukee Brewers\t0\nPittsburgh Pirates\t0\t\tMinnesota Twins\t       10\n\nAtlanta Braves\t\t5\t\tToronto Blue Jays\t2\nFlorida Marlins\t\t4\t\tKansas City Royals\t8\n\nSan Diego Padres\t3\t\tCleveland Indians\t2\nPhiladelphia Phillies\t4 (14)\t\tCalifornia Angels\t7\n\nSan Francisco Giants\t4\t\tNew York Yankees\t7\nNew York Mets\t\t1 (11)\t\tOakland Athletics\t9 (10)\n\nColorado Rockies\t0\t\tBoston Red Sox\t\t5\nSt. Louis Cardinals\t5\t\tSeattle Mariners\t2\n-- \n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nJoseph Hernandez          |    RAMS  | |    \/.\\  ******* _|_|_  \/ |   LAKERS\njtchern@ocf.Berkeley.EDU  |   KINGS  | |__ |   | DODGERS _|_|_  | |   RAIDERS\njtcent@soda.Berkeley.EDU  |  ANGELS  |____||_|_| *******  | |  |___|  CLIPPERS","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nWell they could unseal the original warrent (Why was i sealed in the\nfirst place?), release their video & tapes (from their listening devices\ninside the compound) and quit makeing contradictory statements.\n\nDo you believe their statement that the children were killed by\nlethal injection?  They later stated that the childrens bodies\nwere burned to the point the would be hard to identify.  So\nhow did they come up with the lethal injection theory?\n\n\nUnless the evidence was destroyed or other evidence planted.\n\n\nYou mean \"Magic bullet\" Spector?\n\nI know, a lone gunman killed all the Branch Davidians.   :-) || :-(\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
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{"text":"Can a theist be truly objective?  Can he be impartial\n     when questioning the truth of his scriptures, or\n     will he assume the superstition of his parents\n     when questioning? \n\nI've often found it to be the case that the theist\n     will stick to some kind of superstition when\n     wondering about God and his scriptures.  I've\n     seen it in the Christian, the Jew, the Muslim,\n     and the other theists alike.  All assume that\n     their mothers and fathers were right in the\n     aspect that a god exists, and with that belief\n     search for their god.\n     \nOccasionally, the theist may switch religions or\n     aspects of the same religion, but overall the\n     majority keep to the belief that some \"Creator\"\n     was behind the universe's existence.  I've\n     known Muslims who were once Christians and vice\n     versa, I've known Christians who were once\n     Jewish and vice versa, and I've even known\n     Christians who become Hindu.  Yet, throughout\n     their transition from one faith to another,\n     they've kept this belief in some form of higher\n     \"being.\"  Why?\n     \nIt usually all has to do with how the child is\n     brought up.  From the time he is born, the\n     theist is brought up with the notion of the\n     \"truth\" of some kind of scripture-- the Bible,\n     the Torah, the Qur'an, & etc.  He is told\n     of this wondrous God who wrote (or inspired)\n     the scripture, of the prophets talked about in\n     the scripture, of the miracles performed, & etc.\n     He is also told that to question this (as\n     children are apt to do) is a sin, a crime\n     against God, and to lose belief in the scrip-\n     ture's truth is to damn one's soul to Hell.\n     Thus, by the time he is able to read the\n     scripture for himself, the belief in its \"truth\"\n     is so ingrained in his mind it all seems a\n     matter of course.\n     \nBut it doesn't stop there.  Once the child is able\n     to read for himself, there is an endeavor to\n     inculcate the child the \"right\" readings of\n     scripture, to concentrate more on the pleasant\n     readings, to gloss over the worse ones, and to\n     explain away the unexplainable with \"mystery.\"\n     Circular arguments, \"self-evdent\" facts and\n     \"truths,\" unreasoning belief, and fear of\n     hell is the meat of religion the child must eat\n     of every day.  To doubt, of course, means wrath\n     of some sort, and the child must learn to put\n     away his brain when the matter concerns God.\n     All of this has some considerable effect on the\n     child, so that when he becomes an adult, the \n     superstitions he's been taught are nearly\n     impossible to remove.\n     \nAll of this leads me to ask whether the theist can\n     truly be objective when questioning God, Hell,\n     Heaven, the angels, souls, and all of the rest.\n     Can he, for a moment, put aside this notion that\n     God *does* exist and look at everything from\n     a unbiased point of view?  Obviously, most\n     theists can somewhat, especially when presented\n     with \"mythical gods\" (Homeric, Roman, Egyptian,\n     & etc.).  But can they put aside the assumption\n     of God's existence and question it impartially?\n     \nStephen\n\n    _\/_\/_\/_\/  _\/_\/_\/_\/   _\/       _\/    * Atheist\n   _\/        _\/    _\/   _\/ _\/ _\/ _\/     * Libertarian\n  _\/_\/_\/_\/  _\/_\/_\/_\/   _\/   _\/  _\/      * Pro-individuality\n       _\/  _\/     _\/  _\/       _\/       * Pro-responsibility\n_\/_\/_\/_\/  _\/      _\/ _\/       _\/ Jr.    * and all that jazz...\n\n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"...\n\nApologies, I've not been paying attention.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n  Lawson was on the Yamaha.\n\nNot taking anything away from Russel, but, well...\n\n__\n   Jorg Klinger            |       GSXR1100        | If you only new who\n   Arch. & Eng. Services   |\"Lost Horizons\"  CR500 | I think I am. \n   UManitoba, Man. Ca.     |\"The Embalmer\"   IT175 |           - anonymous","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nYeah, diesels are cleaner than petrol powered cars. They even have catalysts \nfitted to disels now! Oh and Citroen have even launched the 'First sports \ndiesel car in the world'. Which is probably true if you assume if its for \nproduction purposes (Merc-Benz had a prototype which runs on diesel back in \naround 1968..... it did - and read this! - 200 MPH!!!)\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t....Shaz....\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nIndirect compared to what?  Did Voyager 2 traverse a substantially greater\ndistance than, say, a Hohmann orbit?  I've never heard Voyager's path\ndescribed as \"indirect\" before...  \n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Just because those  \"marriages\" are more stable and loving and long-lasting,\ndoesn't make it right.  Same-sex partners could have been best friends,\nwithout getting sexually involved with each other.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I'm looking for a copy of \"Bela Lugosi's last film.\" If anyone has a copy\nof this stinker, please e-mail me. (Also, if anyone knows a better place to\npost this, please tell me).\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nI think you're both right.  Teflon was actually discovered by accident\nbefore WWII.  From what I've heard, they had some chemical (I assume it\nwas tetrafluoroethylene) in a tank and but the valve got gummed up.\nCutting it open revealed that it had polymerized.\n\nThe material was useful for seals, but it had a major problem for, say\nthe linings of vessels: it wouldn't stick to metal.  What the space\nprogram did was to find a way to get it to stick.  Thus we had no-stick\nfrypans on the market in the late '60s.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThis is certainly not the case.  There is no significant *ability* toi\nperform in the clutch, but clutch performance certainly happens every\ntime there is a game-winning hit.  The \"clutch pitching\" quoted above is\nsomething which happened, not a claim that any particular player should\nbe expected to be a clutch pitcher.\n\n\n\nSimple statistics tell me that there is a 2% chance an average clutch\nhitter would have this large a split (the average decrease is 7 points,\nstandard deviation about 30).  There will be such hitters in any league,\njust as there will be hitters who hit poorly on Tuesdays.\n\nAnd there is only a very weak correlation (.01 in my best study) between\nclutch hitting in the last four years and clutch hitting this year,\nprobably because most of the clutch data is determinaed by luck rather\nthan any ability.  *Based only on this data*, I don't see any reason to\npinch-hit for Sabo, or any other player who had been a poor clutch\nhitter in the past.\n\nBut there are many other factors involved in a decision to pinch-hit.\nDoes the pinch-hitter give you a platoon advantage?  (Any portion of\nSabo's clutch split that results from his platoon split is certainly a\nreal ability, even if it has nothing to do with clutch hitting.)  Do you\nhave a singles hitter at the plate when you need a home run?  Do you\nhave a curveball pitcher facing a batter who has trouble with curves?\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nI don't have a stat, but, unfortunately, I did read generally that both smoking\nand belief in the supernatural (occultish garbage) is on the rise here.\n\n\n\nThis is very interesting.  I thing the principle is sort of the same though:\nall \"philosophical\" ideas are generally tried out and tested mostly during\ncollege years.  Whether the idea is christian or atheist doesn't always matter.\nBut I'd like to say it's because atheists are more intelligent  :)\n\n\n-- \n\nregards,\n\n--Adam","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"#Really?  I thought that insurance companies hired all of\n#their actuarial staffs to determine the risks correlated\n#with all groups of people, and that gays are more likely\n#to have AIDS than are those of other sexual orientations.\n\nCorrelation != causality.\n\nThe risk factor is having non-monogomous unprotected sex, not being\nhomosexual. \n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
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{"text":"The Microsoft Windows Device Driver Kit (DDK) documentation (blurb)\nstates that the user must separately acquire the Microsoft Windows\nSoftware Development Kit (SDK), which contains the Windows tools\nto build the drivers. If we are using Borland C++ with Application\nFrameworks, is this necessary? We also have a copy of the Microsoft\nPress Programmer's Reference Library (books) which normally comes\nwith the SDK, and Microsoft Macro Assembler 6.0. Why is the SDK\nneccessary for development of Virtual Device Drivers?","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"         Please replay to : yxy4145@usl.edu\n                                  Thanks a lot\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\"Muslim\" in ex-Yugoslavia was a *nation* not a religion.  In fact, not\nall Muslims in B-H are followers of Islam.  Therefore, there do (did?)\nexist in ex-Yugoslavia \"Christian Muslims.\"  Tito defined the Muslim \nnation constitutionally, adding Muslims to Serbs, Croats, and Slovenes,\nthe three founding nations which entered into a voluntary union at the\nend of WWI.  In addition, Tito added two other nations constitutionally:\nMontenegrins, and Makedonijans. \n\nNations had the right of secession, but republics did not.  So, \"Muslim\"\nis much more a political term than a religious term (for those who \ndifferentiate between religion and politics, that is) in B-H.  It was not \na \"Christo-Slavic\" ideology that made a Muslim nation in Yugoslavia, it\nwas the \"Atheist Communist\" ideology of Tito.  Before Tito, there was\nno Muslim nation in Yugoslavia.  \n\nThe war is not a religious war, and it is not an ethnic war.  It is a\ncivil war in which the terms of secession are being negotiated with guns\ninstead of pens.  The Croat, Muslim, and Serb political leaders *all*\nchose to fight over the terms of secession instead of compromising and\npeacefully negotiating multilateral secession agreements. ","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nAnother tip is to make sure you keep well to one side of the lane. This gives\nyou a quicker escape route.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\tHello *.*,\nI'm looking for a good explanation and example of the usefulness of the -S \noption for xterm: slave mode on file descriptor xxx. Sure, but xterm -Sp00\ndoes not seem to grab what arrives on my window. Where is my misunderstan-\nding ? TIA.\nFred.\n ===========================================================================\n Frederic PIERRE. ENSPS\/LSIT 7 rue de l'universite F-67000 Strasbourg FRANCE \n Tel: (33) 88 35 80 84 Fax: (33) 88 35 31 76 e-mail: fred@sobel.u-strasbg.fr\n ==========================HamRadio: FC1HFD=================================\n \n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nAttention Penguins fans once again, apparently 99.999% of you understand that\nthis was just a joke (Hence the :-) next to it) but one idiot on here doesn't\nas he got pissed at me and sent me two hate e-mails telling me that this is\nwrong.  I have no intentions of sending e-mail to anyone should the Pens win\ntonight, and I really do not expect\/do not intend to lead any of you to send\nthis poster e-mail either.  It was NOT a serious request.  If you didn't know\nthat (which you probably did) then don't do it.  Thanks.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
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{"text":"Using the usersub stuff in perl, you can incorporate things like curses for\nuse in perl.  I was wondering if anyone had done this with X (preferably\nMotif), and if so, where I could get the source for it?\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\tIt is far from new.  It's been around almost as long as dirt.\n\n\n\tI had one for one of my old bikes.  Worked fine.  I'm sure, being\nrigid and nonflexible, that the \"Cyclelok\" would yield instantly to the freeze\nand break routine.\n\n\tBut then, for $40, what do ya want?\n\nLater,","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nHeavens!  Everybody but Phill is out of step!\n\n\nOnce again, Phill lets us all know that might makes right -- but ONLY for\nthe all-sacred government.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nI want to subscribe, I am located in Israel and my name is David Gotlieb\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Re; Response from CoB of Boeing on SSTO ...\n  \n   Boeing has been looking at several TSTO vehicles and has carried\nout extensive conceptual studies of advanced launch systems for some\ntime.  A good reference on this might be: \"Comparison of Propulsion\nOptions for Advanced Earth-To-Orbit (ETO) Applications (IAF-92-\n0639).\" by V.A. Weldon and L.E. Fink from Boeing.   The paper\ndescribes a propane-fueled TSTO launch system claimed to achieve\naircraft-like operational efficiencies without the problems\nassociated with liquid hydrogen fuel.  Basically, it's a high-speed\nairplane launching a Hermes-type spaceplane\n   The design (the concept is also called \"Beta\") as laid out in the\npaper can launch at least 10,000 pounds into polar orbit, or 20,000\npounds to space station orbit including a crew of eight persons and\nlife support.  System design reliability is .9995.\n   Beta is a 360-foot-long first stage powered by two large ramjets\nand 12 high- speed civil transport (HSCT) turbofans.  A 108-foot-\nlong reusable orbiter is trapeze-mounted in the belly of the first-\nstage aircraft, which also could accommodate a longer and heavy\npayload on an expendable second stage.\n   To launch the orbital vehicle, the first stage takes off like a\nnormal HSCT and accelerates to Mach 3.  At that point the turbofans,\nmodified to burn catalyzed JP-7, would shut off and the ramjets,\nwould take over.  At Mach 5.5 the orbiter or the ELV would swing\nout, ignite and proceed to orbit. Both vehicles would land like\naircraft at the conclusion of their respective missions.\n   Estimated total weight of the combined configuration at takeoff\nis about 1.5 M lbs, roughly equivalanet to a fully loaded An-225.\nThe orbiter stages weighs about 400,Klbs including 335 Klbs\nof LOX and subcooled propane to power two 250 Klbs vacuum thrust\nrocket engines. Propellants would be stored at 91 degrees Kelvin,\nwith the propane in a spherical tank mounted forward of the 15-by-\n25-foot cargo bay and the two-seat orbiter crew station. LOX would\nbe stored aft.  Weldon and Fink claim the key to this design's\nsuccess is the structurally efficient airframe and the compact\ntankage allowed by the high-density supercooled hydrocarbon fuel.\n     The paper compares TSTO design to SSTO design.  They conclude\nwhile a SSTO has a slightly lower recurring cost, a TSTO is easier,\ncheaper, and less risky to develop, simpler to build, has greater\nsafety and mission versatility and doesn't carry the hard-to-handle\nand bulky hydrogen fuel. The conlcude \"In conjunction with its major\nuse of airplane type engines and fuel, as well as its inherent self-\nferry capability, it is probably the system most likely to provide\nas close to airline-like operations as possible with a practical\nconfiguration, until a single stage airbreather\/rocket concept can\nbe shown to be operationally viable.\"\n  \n   Weldon and others at Boeing have been working on TSTO designs for\nsome time.  I expect this, or a similar concept (perhaps the HTHL\nSSTO they proposed for the SDIO SSTO first phase) is being re-\nexamined as a basis for a bid on the first phase of SpaceLifter.\n   Does it threaten DC-???.  Possibly -- There is a set of on-going\nstudies trying straighten out the government's future space\ntransportation strategy.  MDC and Boeing (as well as other firms)\nare providing data to a joint study team back in DC.  There are\nvarious factions and options vying for attention -- including\nshuttle upgrades, shuttle replacement (what was called the \"4-2-3\"\narchitecture), SpaceLifter, ELV upgrades, and various advanced\nvehicles (ALES, Beta, DC-??, NASP, FSTS, SSTOs of several types,\netc.)  NASA\/DOD\/DOT are trying to put together a coherent strategy\nfor future US gov't space transportation systems, and trying to\njuggle near-term launch needs (like for DoD and NASA) against\nmedium-term needs (including commercial considerations), and against\nthe investment and risk of going to \"leap frog\" new technologies\nlike SDIO\/SSTO and NASP and Beta.\n   It's a heck of a problem.  The worst part of the problem isn't\nthat there aren't promising ideas and concepts -- there are dozens\nof them -- but how they balance cost and risk versus real needs in\nthe near term.  They should have a draft report in mid-June, with a\nfinal report coming by the end of the fiscal year.\n ------------------------------------------------------------------\n Wales Larrison                           Space Technology Investor\n  ","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I am writing this to find out the following:\n\n1.)\tAny information on surgery to prevent reflux esophagitis.\n\n2.)\tThe name(s) of a doctor(s) who specialize in such surgery.\n\n3.)\tInformation on reflux esophagitis which leads to cancer.\n\nMy boyfriend, age 34 and otherwise in good health, was diagnosed with \nreflux esophagitis and a hiatal hernia about 2 years ago.  At that time he \nsaw a gastroenterologist and has tried acid controllers (Mylanta, \nTagamet), as well as a restricted diet and raising the head of his bed.  \nThese treatments were not effective and because the damage was \nworsening, he opted for a surgical repair 3 months ago.  He was told \nthere were two repair techniques that could fix the problem; a Nissen \nwrap and a \"Hill Repair\".  He opted for the \"Hill Repair\". He recovered \nvery well from the surgery itself but the pain he had originally is worse \nand in addition he now has trouble swallowing (including saliva).\n\nThe doctor now wants to do an endoscopy and has also informed him \nthat a biopsy might be necessary if he has a pre-cancerous condition \nwhich he called \"Barrett's Syndrome\". If he can't avoid having reflux will \nhe necessarily get cancer?\n\nBasically, if anyone has any information on what he should do now, I'd \nappreciate it.\n\nThanks,","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nESPN has been trying various things to get away from the\nfollow-the-puck concept of televising hockey games.  One of the main\nproblems with hockey is that it is very difficult to show everything\nthat is going on -- more happens away from the puck than in any other\nsport except maybe football and they can do iso's on football players\nto be shown between plays.\n\nThe problem of course is that sometimes you get something worthwhile,\nother times you get burned.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nBrian, does all this mean that you have to be well versed in ancient\nGreek, Hebrew and Aramaic in order to understand the core of\nChristianity? I hope you are not Catholic, because my Christian\nupbringing was based on the teachings of Luther, and the one of\nthe core messages was basically that you don't need to know latin\nin order to learn about salvation.\n\nBTW, your statement would also eliminate about 99.5% of all the Christians\nin the world, as well.\n\nCheers,\nKent","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\t.DXF can not be changed over to .IFF format what it can be changed\nto is an object format used by one of the 3D programs on the Amiga. The\nonly tools around are comercial for that conversion.\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nCNN reported tonight that some bodies were found with bullet holes in their\nheads.  However, I have no information on the possible causes.\n\nThis is not to say that Government stories are to be taken at the face value in\nthis case, but to jump to conclusion at this stage may be the source of\nembarrassment in the future.  Let's be paranoic, this may be a ploy to smoke\nout the opposition and decredit them.  :-)\n\nComparison of this incidence to Tienanmen Square is made in soc.culture.china. \nJust in case you need more ammunition to shoot at each other.  :-)\n\nNo matter which side you are on this Waco issue, are you ready to die defending\nyour cause?\n\nPeace be with you.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Robert,\n\nI'm *so* glad that you posted your Biological Alchemy discussion.  I've \nbeen compared to the famous Robert McElwaine by some readers of Sci. Med.\nI didn't know how to respond since I had not seen one of your posts(just \nlike I haven't read \"The Yeast Connection\").\n\nLet me just start by stating that the authors of the \"Cold Fusion\" papers of \nrecent years are now in scientific exile(I believe that one has actually \nleft the country).  Scientific fraud is rare.  I'm still not sure that if a \nreview of the research notes of the \"cold fusion scientists\" actually \nproved fraud or just very shoddy experimentation.\n\nYour sources do not seem to be research articles.  They are more like lay \ntexts designed to pique human interest in a subject area(just like the food \ncombining and life extension texts).  Robert, I try to keep an open mind.\nBut some things I just can't buy(one is taking SOD orally to prevent \noxidative damage in the body).\n\nYour experiment, if conducted by readers of this news group, would prove \nthat you are right(more ash after seed sprouting than before).  Unless you \nuse a muffle furnance and obtain a very high temperature(above 600 degrees \nI believe), you will get organic residue in the ash.  Even the residue in \ncommercial incinerators contains organic residue.  I remember doing this \nkind of experiment in my organic chemistry couurse in College but I \ncouldn't find a temperature for mineral ash formation so I'm really \nguessing at 600 degrees F, it may actually be much higher.  The point is \nthat no one in their home could ever get a high enough temperature to \nproduce *only* a mineral ash.  They also could not measure the minerals so \nthey could only weigh the ash and find out that you appear to be correct. \n\nChemical reactions abound in our body, in our atmosphere, in our water and \nin our soil.  Are these fusion reactions?  Yes many of them do involve \nfusing oxygen, nitrogen and sulfur to both organics and inorganics.  Do we \nreally have the transformation of silicone to calcium if carbon is fused with \nsilicon?  Not in my book Robert.\n\nSilicon is the most abundant mineral on our planet.  I've seen speculation \nthat man could have evolved to be a silicon based rather than a carbon \nbased life-form.  I like reading science fiction, as many people do.  But I \nknow enough about biochemistry(and nutrition) to be able(in most cases) to \nseparate the fiction from the fact.\n\nSilicon may be one of the trace elements that turns out to be essential in \nhumans.  We have several grams of the stuff in our body.  What's it doing \nthere?  Only the Lord knows right now.  But I will tell you what I do know \nabout silicon and why, as you state, it helps bone healing(and it is not \nbecause silicon is transformed into calcium).\n\nAlmost all of the silicon in the human body is found in the connective \ntissue(collagen and elastin).  There have been studies published which show \nthat the very high silicon content in elastin may be an important protective \nfactor against atherosclerosis(the higher the silicon content in elastin, \nthe more resistant the elastin is to a an age-related loss of elasticity \nwhich may play a role in the increase in blood pressure that is often seen as \npart of the ageing process in humans).\n\nFor bone fracture healing, the first step is a collagen matrix into which \ncalcium and phosphate are pumped by osteoblasts.  A high level of silicon \nin the diet seems to speed up this matrix formation.  This first step in the \nbone healing process seems to be the hardest for some people to get going.\nElectriacl currents have been used in an attempt to get the matrix forming \ncells oriented in the right direction so that the matrix can be formed in \nthe gap(or gaps) between the ends of the broken bone.  A vitamin C deficiency\n(by slowing collagen formation as well as causing the prodcution of \ndefective collagen) does slow down both bone and wound healing.  Zinc is also \nanother big player in bone and wound healing.  And so is silicon(in an  \nundetermined role that most likely involes matrix formation and not \ntransformation of silicon to calcium).  For you to take this bone healing \nobservation and use it as proof that silicon is transformed into \ncalcium is an interesting little trick.\n\nBut Robert, I have the same problem myself when I read the lay press(and \nyes even some scientific papers).  Is the explanation reasonable?  Without \na very good science knowledge base, you and most readers of this news group \nare flying blind(you have to take it on faith because you don't know any \nbetter).\n\nIf the explanation seems to make sense to me based on my knowledge base, \nI'm inclined to consider it(this usually means trying to find other sources \nthat come to the same conclusion).  If the idea(like a candida bloom) seems \nto make sense to me, I tend to pursue it as long as any advice that I'm \ngoing to give isn't going to really mess somebody up.  If this makes us \nkindred souls Robert, then I guess I'll have to live with that label.\n\nFor the physicians who have decided to read my response to Robert's \ninteresting post, I hope that you saw the segment on the pediatric \nneurosurgeon last night on U.S. TV.  I can't remember the network or his \nname(like many nights, I was on my computer and my wife was watching TV in \nour Den where I have my computer setup).  This neurosurgeon takes kids with \nbrain tumors that everyone else has given up on and he uses\"unconventional\"\ntreatments(his own words).  He says that he has a 70% success rate.  The one \ncase that I heard him discussing would normally use radiation(conventional \ntreatment).  He was going to go in and cut.  You guys complain about the \ncost of the anti-fungals.  What do you think the cost difference between \nradiation treatment and surgery is guys? \n\nI'm going to ask you guys one more time, why blast a physician who takes the \nchronic sinus sufferer(like Jon) and the chronic GI sufferer(like Elaine)\nand tries to help them using unconventional treatments?  Treatments which \ndo not result in death(like those that the neurosurgeon uses?).  Is it \nbecause candida blooms are not life-threatening while brain tumors are?\nHow about quality of life guys?  May the candida demon never cross your \nsinus cavity or gut(if it does, you may feel differently about the issue).","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Hello everyone,\n   I have an insurance question.\n\nAllstate insurance\n\nSITUATION: Person wrecks car. Car is drivable to dealer. Person \nreports accident (no other cars involved). Driver estimates damage cost \nexceedes cost of car. Insurance people claim car is \"totalled\" because of \nexceeding repair costs.\nPerson says \"WWHHHAATTTT!!!! But I drove the car here!\" and takes it to \nanother place. Other place estimates 2,101.00 in damage. 2,000 less than the \ndealer.\nOne more hitch... The car is registered in Florida but the accident occurred \nin Pennsyvania.\n\nQUESTION: Should the insurance recognize and pay for the damages of this, \nnow fixable, car even though they prematurly declared totalled?\n\nPlease respond via E-Mail if you think you know anything about this sort of \nthing. \n\nchris@camp.wpic.pitt.edu","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"OK, OK, OK. First, my apologies for perhaps being untimely with this subject material and perhaps overly optimistic in my request, but here goes anyhow:\n\nI'm *very* interested in finding out how I might be able to get two tickets for the All Star game in Baltimore this year. My very aged folks live about 50 miles away and I know it would be a great thing for them to attend the game. I went with them, and my grandfather who got me into baseball as a small child, to the All Star game in DC many years ago. Although I'm now in the SF Bay Area, I'd *love* to be able to treat my folks to this game; it's absolutely the last chance they'd ever have to attend this g\n\n\n\n\name locally.\n\nAny info would be greatly appreciated!!!!","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nYeah, right, and if the ATF trashes your place on a bad tip they have\nto pay to repair it, sure.  And if your computer equipment is\nconfisticated in a raid they have to charge you with a crime within,\nsay, 90 days.  You're stretching the naivete bit on this one.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n   Good question!  I kind of wondered about this myself.  Just one\nthought I had on it  -  the Babe himself was IN \"Pride of the\nYankees\", which made me think\n\na) that version may be closer to the truth, and \nb) the Babe must have been a pretty good gut to be in the movie even\nthough some of the scenes didn't make him look completely flattering.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I have a DFI Handy Scanner Model HS-3000Plus and a little bit of\nsoftware running under dos to use it. I'd like to make more extensive\nuse of this device (in particular, write a driver for it on unix).\n\nSo, can anyone give me a description of how to talk to this device. It\nconnects to the system via it's own interface card.\n\nAny info would help, it can't be too difficult to talk to :-)","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Does anyone know if there is a carrying case for the Centris 610?  \n\nThanks for any info.\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"We are looking for a public domain or low price CASE , running on\nAIX\/6000 3.2 and\/or SOLARIS 1.1 and\/or SUN\/OS 3.1, for X\/Motif and\/or\nX\/OpenLook.\n\nI'm not a regular follower of these groups, so I would prefer an\nanswer to this e-mail. Thanks in advance, Regards, --Osvaldo\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
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{"text":"Whatever.\nAnyway, Elias should take a look at my quotes to find real, effective\nways of getting your point across.  Notice that all the quotes are \nrecent.  Buy a clue, Nazi man from up north.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"*** On 04-20-93  21:56, Tim King had the unmitigated gall to say this:\n\n TK> accidentally discovered that if a have a floppy from ONE particular\n TK> box of diskettets in the A drive when I boot up, rather than getting\n TK> the \"Non-system diskette\" message, the machine hangs and the CMOS\n TK> gets overwritten (luckily, Gateway sends a print of the standard\n\nJust a wild thought here, but how about this: there is a small boot program\non every formatted diskette, whether or not it contains system files.  It is\nthis small program that prints the \"Non-System Disk\" error, not DOS.  If\nthis program tries to transfer control to a BIOS location that is\nnonstandard on the Gateway, then it could clear the BIOS.\n\nI don't think that the BIOS is overwritten, there is usually a small routine\nto clear the CMOS area, in case an invalid configuration prevents the\nmachine from booting.  I think that the boot code on the Fuji disks may\ninadvertantly call this routine.\n\nJust a thought.\n\n... Don't hit me, Mr. Moderator... I'll go back on topic... I swear!\n--- Blue Wave\/QWK v2.10\n                                                                             ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nI tried Prozac a few months ago, and had some insomnia from it, but no\nanxiety or jitters.  I probably could have lived with the insomnia if the\nProzac had done any good, but it only provided a tiny benefit.  Maybe\nbecause the person who prescribed it didn't know much and gave up after a\n20mg dose didn't work.\n\nNow I'm seeing a psychiatrist who has put me on Zoloft (another serotonin\nreuptake inhibitor like Prozac).  One pill\/day (50mg) seemed to help some. \nNow I'm trying 100mg\/day.  Zoloft has fewer and milder side effects than\nProzac.  I think my doctor said that only 4% of the people taking Zoloft\nhave to discontinue it because of side effects.  The only problem I'm\nhaving is some minor GI distress, but nothing too annoying.  Hopefully the\nZoloft will work.  Maybe your friend should try this one next.\n\nMy psychiatrist's strategy seems to be to first try one of the serotonin\ndrugs, usually Prozac.  If that works, great.  If it works but has too many\nside effects, try Zoloft or maybe Paxil.  If the serotonin drugs don't work\nat all, try one of the tricyclics like desipramine.\n\n\nHaving a doctor who knows something about antidepressants can make a big\ndifference.  My psychiatrist claims that most GPs and FPs don't have much\nexperience in this area, and from what I've seen I'm inclined to believe\nhim.  I think I know more about antidepressants than the people at my\nfamily practitioner's office.\n\nDisclaimer: I'm not a doctor; what I know about this comes from talking to\nmy psychiatrist and reading sci.med.  \n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Would someone please post or email the feature connector pin assignments?\nThis is sometimes referred to as the aux video connector in some \ndocumentation.\nThanks \nastrachan@austlcm.sps.mot.com","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"As we see right now, the position of influence enjoyed by parties favoring\nthe negotiation process is tenuous at best. The local \"elections\" in Hebron\nthat the PLO was expected to win (perhaps adding a bit to its flagging\nposition of \"legitimacy\" in the eyes of Palestinians and the Middle East)\nhave been disrupted by Hamas actions overtly directed towards\nundermining those (and all West Bank) elections. The present ruling Israeli \nLabor coalition seems to be one rather thin political ice. The Palestinian\ndelegation has been reduced from 14 to three to protest Israel \"lack of\nseriousness\" in the talks and refusal to reverse all the deportations\nimmediately.\n\nHopefully, however, each of the parties will begin to learn that just\nthe fact that negotiations are taking place *does not mean* they are giving \nanything away to \"the other side\" (which was\/is the favorite argument of \nthe \"rejectionists\"). Let's hope that discusion and inevitable disagreement\non major issues leads at the same time to some agreement on smaller\n\"interim\" (\"phase\", whatever term we prefer) steps to be taken.  \n\n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Actually I am entering vet school next year, but the question is \nrelevant for med students too.\n\nMemorizing large amounts has never been my strong point academically.\nSince this is a major portion of medical education -- anatomy, \nhistology, pathology, pharmacology, are for the most part mass \nmemorization -- I am a little concerned.  As I am sure most \nmed students are.\n\nCan anyone suggest techniques for this type of memorization?  I \nhave had reasonable success with nemonics and memory tricks like\nthinking up little stories to associate unrelated things.  But I have\nnever applied them to large amounts of \"data\".\n\nHas anyone had luck with any particular books, memory systems, or\ncheap software?   \n\nCan you suggest any helpful organizational techniques?  Being an\nolder student who returned to school this year, organization (another\none of my weak points) has been a major help to my success.\n\nPlease no griping about how all you have to do is \"learn\" the material\nconceptually.  I have no problem with that, it is one of my strong \npoints.  But you can't get around the fact that much of medicine is\nrote memorization.  ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":" \nthere is NO evidence of effect of gun buyback programs but hopefully if\nthere is any effect it may prevent injuries or deaths in one of these types\nof common incidents.\n \n Firearms are the fifth-leading cause of unintentional deaths among children\nages 14 and under.  I don't understand how the ratio to other accidental\ndeaths is important.  So guns don't kill as many children as car accidents.\nWhat is the difference in severity between 1,000 deaths and 10,000 deaths?\nI am not trying to use accidental gun-related deaths among children as a\njustification for gun control.  Who needs to be convinced that accidental\ngun deaths of children is a serious problem?  I assumed that any humane\nperson would be concerned when any 10 year old got hold of their parents\ngun from their bedroom drawer and accidently blew away one of their friends.\n \n My point was, gun buyback programs which are almost always run by police\ndepartments MIGHT (I stress might) do a LITTLE (I stress little) good by\ngiving people the impression that the police are attempting to respond\nto interpersonal gun violence in a unique way.  Overall, I thought that I\nhad made it clear that I did not think that gun buyback programs were\nuseful.\n \n \n Well Joe, I suggest that you talk to the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence\nor the Centers for Disease Control.  If YOU look carefully you will see\nthat YOU greatly underestimate the presence of guns in the lives of youths.\nThe CPHV reports that 135,000 youth bring GUNS to school DAILY and that\n400,000 bring GUNS to school at least once a year.  The CDC estimates\nthat 1 out 0f 25 high school students carried a gun to school at least once\nin 1990.  The CDC also says that 1.2 million elementary-aged, latch-key\nchildren (kids who come home from school to an empty house), have access\nto guns in their home.  California schools reported a 200% increase in\nstudent gun confiscations between 1986 and 1990, and a 40% increase between\n1988 and 1990.  Florida reported a 61% percent increase in gun incidents in\nschools between 1986\/87 amd 1987\/88.  These are the \"statistics\".\n \n \n \n Okay, maybe I worded it wrong...DAD.  I meant that to put children in a\nsituation (fortified compound) where harm could come to them is not the\nact of a Messiah in my opinion.  I'm not saying that Koresh had control over\nthese children directly, but I would hope that whatever Messiah there is\nwould not let innocent children die.\nIf as he claimed he was the Messiah and people followed him as such, why\ndid he not tell their parents to free the children instead of letting them\nburn alive?  Thanks for the reality check Joe, its been real.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nThe FT-500 is a good beginner's bike with:\n  *  a reasonable seating position\n  *  enough power to get you up and around, but\n       not so much it'll scare the bejeebers out of you\n  *  tips over well, and easy to pick up\n       (don't ask)\n  *  simple maintenance\n\nI've had mine for four or so years, and haven't had any\nserious problems with it.  I bought it used for $750 with\nabout 8000 miles on it.\n\nJust last week, someone in the neighborhood stopped by to\nask me about it; whether I thought it was a good beginner's\nbike, is it comfortable and powerful enough, blah blah blah...\nSeems he found one used for < $500 with about 3600 miles on it.\n\nThe reall \"trick\" mod I've heard was to take the front end from\na 600 hurricane and slide it in.  This was from a guy who\ncampaigns two Ascots in SOS racing.  He says they do pretty\nwell too, once you strip off the starter, lights and other\nassorted street paraphernalia, its a pretty fast and light bike.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n    Not without replacing most of the chips on the motherboard. The C610\nisn't like the IIsi was, meaning that the motherboard of the C610 is \nactually designeds to run at the speed of the CPU, and not designed to\nrun at a higher speed (like 25MHz) but be forced to run at the speed of\na slower CPU (20MHz).\n\n\n    There is more than one oscillator. If you are talking about the CPU\noscillator chip, I think that it is located under the socket for the\n'040. At least this is what I have read in some other posts in this\ngroup.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nYes, 4 points, in really big holes which are fairly clear of most of\nthe other stuff on the board.  If you can replace the battery, you\ncan install the battery holder.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nI believe that this is not quite correct. My understanding is that LDS is\nengaged on a project to \"convert\" the souls of deceased persons of other\nreligions, in order to spare them from damnation and gain them entrance into\nheaven. To this end, the Church has compiled extensive genaeological records, so\nthat they will know the names of people to convert. A long article in the New\nYorker a few years ago described the LDS research methods in some detail (for\nexample, some researchers pay visits to local native storytellers to learn the\nnames of people long dead). This sounds like just the sort of lie that would be\nmade up about any unusual religion, but the New Yorker story convinced me that\nthere is some truth to it (the New Yorker used to do extensive fact-checking, and\nthe story was quite detailed).","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nDo not presume to tell me what I have and have not read.  The system may\nnot rely upon registering people as owning particular phone units, but\nit is necessary to know which phone units are likely to be used for some\nsuspected criminal communication before you can obtain their unit keys\nfrom escrow.  This necessity raises the stakes in favor of a criminal's\ncoercing or colluding use of some other person's Clipper phone.\n\nI will restate my assumptions more explicitly and amplify my argument.\nThe original title perhaps should have been \"Distinction between legal\nand illegal cipher systems considered harmful\", but \"Clipper considered\nharmful\" is not inaccurate, and is more eye-catching in the current context.\n\nAssumptions:\n\n  1.  Clipper is made available.\n\n  2.  Laws are passed to make use of cipher systems other than Clipper illegal\n      (either on radio systems, or on any common carrier system).  These laws\n      also include enforcement authority to listen across the relevant radio\n      spectrum (or other medium), characterize signals, validate Clipper\n      wrappers, detect probable use of non-Clipper ciphers, and make such\n      detection a cause for further action.\n\n  3.  For escrowed keys to be useful, some specific Clipper chip must be\n      associated with a suspected criminal.  This means that at a minimum\n      some association between the common carrier's unique phone ID (ESN) and\n      the Clipper chip serial number N will be stored in a government database.\n      An observed pairing of N and ESN other than the one recorded raises a\n      red flag.\n\n  4.  To reduce ordinary fraud, the cellphone system which offers Clipper\n      will also be constructed with an ESN mechanism much more tamper-proof\n      and much less spoofable than today's cellphones.\n\n  5.  Criminals want inscrutable communications.  Some criminals are not\n      entirely stupid or ignorant, and will figure out both that Clipper\n      cellphones offer excellent security in normal circumstances, and that\n      they offer no security against law enforcement once a (presumably\n      legitimate) wiretap order exists.  They will also figure out that the\n      wiretap order must necessarily be against a specific cellphone, because\n      each one has a unique unit key.\n\n  6.  Criminals do not want to call attention to themselves.  Because they\n      are not stupid or ignorant (or because they read netnews), and because\n      they know that their open use of a non-Clipper cipher is likely to be\n      detected, they will generally avoid using non-Clipper ciphers directly\n      on some monitorable\/tappable channel.  They know that do so would raise\n      a red flag, putting a given cellphone (if not a given person) under\n      immediate suspicion.\n\n  7.  It is impractical to reverse engineer Skipjack, discover family key F,\n      and construct a functional clone of a Clipper chip.\n\nBy #2, #3, #4, and #7 it will be very difficult to spoof a given Clipper\nphone without immediate detection.  Because it is difficult to obscure one's\nassociation to a specific phone by reprogramming or changing chips\naround, the criminal will be motivated to find an intact phone which is\nassociated with someone else.\n\nA non-stupid criminal will conclude that they can have Clipper-secure\ncommunications, at least for some limited time T, if they buy, beg, borrow,\nor steal use of someone's phone in a way that prevents that person from\nreporting compromise of the phone for at least time T.  The encrypted\ncommunications might have been recorded, and thus be retrievable later,\nbut the criminal can delay, and quite likely evade, discovery by destroying\nor abandoning the phone before T elapses.\n\nIt would be unusual for an innocent person to volunteer use of their Clipper\nphone to someone else.  The honest subscriber doesn't want to pay someone\nelse's bill, and he doesn't want to fall under suspicion.\n\nThis leaves two sources of Clipper phones for criminal use: coercion\nand collusion.\n\nCoercion first.  Theft bears a relatively low risk, but also sometimes\na low time until detection (a few minutes if a phone is stolen from\na car parked in front of a store, a couple of weeks if a phone is stolen\nfrom someone who is away on vacation).  Criminal commerce is likely to\narise in stolen Clipper phones, with phones coming from risk-inured poor\ncriminals, and cash coming from risk-averse wealthy criminals.  Someone\nwho is extraordinarily motivated to gain a day or two of undetected\ncommunication (like a terrorist) could kill a person or hold them hostage.\nThe limited time (before detection) that a coerced phone is useful means\nthat continuing criminal enterprises require a continuing supply of\nfreshly coerced phones.\n\nThere would also be created a collusive commerce between relatively\nwealthy criminals, and ignorant or don't-care patsies who need money,\nand who will submit to being paid in return for subscribing to Clipper\nphone service for someone else's use.\n\nCriminals will learn that it is more to their advantage to coerce use of a\nClipper cellphone than it is to apply a non-Clipper cipher to a normal\ncellphone.  They will call much less attention to themselves (or at least to\ntheir stolen phone) this way.  The fact of a phone's use being coerced must\nfirst be reported before it can be identified as an interesting phone, and\nhave its keys obtained from escrow.\n\nClipper also allows an extraordinary opportunity for the criminal to\nconceal use of super-encryption.  An automated full-system surveillance\nmechanism (quite feasible across radio bandwidth) which knows family key F,\ncan validate Clipper wrappers and N:ESN associations, but it cannot reveal\nin realtime the use of super-encryption, unless it knows all unit keys,\nwhich we are being assured are only to be made available in two separate\npieces, upon specific wiretap-like order.\n\nWhereas a criminal's use of any cipher within a normally cleartext medium\nwould stand out, a criminal's use of a non-Clipper cipher within a Clipper\nmedium would be very difficult to detect, even ex post facto in bulk\nrecordings, as long as the association between criminal and specific Clipper\nchip is fractured.\n\nIf you make use of this other cipher illegal per se, then you can charge\nthe criminal with this (if you can identify the true criminal - he'll be\nusing someone else's phone), but you'll have no evidence to help you against\nwhatever traditional crime he might have been planning.  You will not even be\nable to detect that unusual (encrypted) communications are occurring until you\nidentify specific phones and obtain their keys from escrow.\n\nThe gangster and terrorist are thus arguably more, not less, secure than\nthey were before Clipper came along.\n\nI therefore consider Clipper harmful because:\n\n  1.  It does not provide absolute privacy to the honest public against\n      aggressive or dishonest government.\n\n  2.  If other ciphers are proscribed, it engenders new types of direct\n      criminal threat to the honest public.\n\n  3.  It provides an extraordinarily effective mechanism for criminals to\n      hide their use of some other cipher, making it more difficult than\n      ever even to gain notice that unusual communications are occurring\n      and that plans for some criminal act might be in progress.\n\n  4.  If other ciphers are proscribed, lazy investigators and prosecutors\n      are more likely to pursue the easily quantifiable cipher-use crime\n      than they are the traditional and directly harmful crimes which key\n      escrow is claimed to help against.\n\n  5.  If other ciphers are proscribed, the stage is set for witch hunting\n      of \"illegal\" cipher use.  Because any computer can be used as a cipher\n      machine...","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nConsidering how often and how badly he has slammed the Pens on Coach's \nCorner on Hockey Night in Canada, it would surprise me as well.  But then,\npeople will do anything for money, won't they?\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":" >supposed to develop cryptosystems. If the government chooses to go\n >ahead and sell those cryptosystems to the masses, so be it.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I am boring my sister HP DeskJet 500C for the weekend and I was wondering\nin their was any drivers for it available some where that would allow\nme to use it with my Mac SE\/30.  I have a copy of MacPrint but I do think\nthat I have a driver for the 500C.  I would be happy to get it working\nin black & white, but if there is away to get the color working that would\nbe better.  Any ideas someone?\n\nRegards,\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\tMay I ask why they are afraid to do so?\n\n---\n\n  Speaking of proofs of God, the funniest one I have ever seen was in a\n  term paper handed in by a freshman.  She wrote, \"God must exist, because\n  he wouldn't be so mean as to make me believe he exists if he really\n  doesn't!\"  Is this argument really so much worse than the ontological\n  proofs of the existence of God provided by Anselm and Descartes, among\n  others?","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Is it just me or is the camera work on some of these games really sad??  I\ncan't remember how many times during the Penguins-Devils game they showed some\nguy (without the puck) being checked in the corner while the puck was being\nfired on goal.  In fact, I think they even missed one goal completely because\nthey were showing two guys holding each other in the corner.\n\nNow the last time I watched a football game, they didn't show the lineman going\nat it while the running back turned the corner for a touchdown . . . . \n\nIs it just me??\t","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Hi everyone,\n\nI'm trying to find my way to God, but find it difficult as I can't hear\nGod talking to me, letting me know that he exists and is with me and\nthat he knows me, and I feel that I can't possibly get to know him until\nhe does. Maybe he _is_ talking to me but I just don't know or understand\nhow to listen.\n\nSome Christians tell me that (in their opinion) the only way to find God\nis to take a plunge and commit your life to him, and you will discover.\nThis idea of diving into the totally unknown is a little bit\nfrightening, but I have a few questions.\n\n1) How do you actually commit yourself? If I just say, \"OK God, her you\ngo, I'm committing my life to you\", I wouldn't really feel that he'd\nlistened - at least, I couldn't be sure that he had. So how does one (or\nhow did you) commit oneself to God?\n\n2) In committing myself in this way, what do I have to forfeit of my\ncurrent life? What can I no longer do? I feel that I'm as 'good' as many\nChristians, and I try to uphold the idea of 'loving your neighbour' - I\ndon't go round killing people, stealing, etc., and I try not to get\njealous of other people in any way - and I would say that I keep to the\nstandards of treating other people as well as many Christians. So what\ndo I have to give up?\n\n3) When committed, what do I have to do? What does it involve? What (if\nany) burdens am I taking on?\n\n4) So then, what's the general difference before and after? I assume,\nthat (like on your birthday you don't suddenly feel a year older) it\nwon't suddenly change my life the day I commit myself. So what happens?\n\n5) How can I be sure that it is the right thing to do? How can I find\nout what the 'it' in the last sentence actually _is_?!\n\nThanks very much for all your help in answering these questions. Perhaps\ne-mail would be a better way to reply, but it's up to you.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nI have been checking out bikes (hoping for lowish seats) for a few weeks.  A\nHonda Twinstar (250cc) fit me well, a Honda Hawk (400cc) did not, the\nKawasaki 250HB\/SB\/SH? (can't remember) looked like it would fit me well but\nthe price tag was way too large...\n\n\nPlease post this list or mail me one too!\n\n(:","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Stuff deleted\n\nI reiterate that I would agree with you that there is little\njustification for the punishment of apostasy in the Qur'an.\nIn Islamic history, as well, apostasy has rarely been punished. \nBelief is considered a matter of conscience and since there\nis to be no compulsion in the matter of belief, apostates have\nbeen generally left to believe or not believe as they will.\n\nHowever, when an apostate makes attacks upon \"God and\nHis Messenger\" the situation changes. Now the charge of\napostasy may be complicated with other charges - perhaps \ncharges of sedition, treason, spying, etc. If the person \nmakes a public issue of their apostasy or mounts public\nattacks (as opposed to arguement) against Islam, the\nsituation is likewise complicated. If the person spreads\nslander or broadcasts falsehoods, again the situation\nchanges. The punishments vary according to the situation\nthe apostate is in. Anyhow, the charge of aggravated\napostasy would only be a subsidiary charge in Rushdie's case.\n\nThere is a distinction in the Qur'an between a formal war situation\nand being in the situation where someone unilaterally\nwages war (by their actions), creates disorder, makes mischief,etc. \nagainst the Muslims and creates a situation that results in harm \nto Muslims. Here, a small group or even a single individual could\nbe said to be engaged in such a practise. In other words, there is\na clear difference between a formal war situation (where two\nclearly defined parties wage war, conclude treaties, exchange\nprisoners, etc.), and dealing with attacks that come from isolated\nindividuals or groups against Islam. It is the second situation, \nthe unilateral attack and the spreading of \"fasad\" that \nwould apply in the case of Rushdie.\n\nThe matter of Rushdie is not a simple matter of banning an \noffensive book (banning the book is secondary) -\na full set of circumstances following the publication of\nthe book come into play as well, including the deaths of many\nMuslims, and Rushdie's (and his publishers) Media games.\n\n\n\n\nI am not sure which hadith you are referring to above. I believe\nthat one of the Qur'anic verses on which the fatwa is based is 5:33.\nEvery verse in the Qur'an has a corresponding \"circumstance of\nrevelation\" but in no way is the understanding (the tafsir) of the\nverse restricted solely to the particular historical circumstance\nin which it was revealed. If this was the case then we could say\nthat all the laws and regulations that were revealed when the\nMuslims were NOT involved in conflict, should be suspended when\nthey were at war. The logic does not follow. In complex, real-life\nsituations, there may be many verses and many hadiths which can\nall be related to a single, complicated situation. The internal\nrelationships between these verses may be quite complex, such that\narriving at an understanding of how the verses interlock and how\neach applies to the particular situation can be quite a demanding task.\nIt is not necessarily a simple \"this or that\" process. There may\nbe many parameters involved, there may be a larger context in\nwhich a particular situation should be viewed. All these matters\nimpinge on the situation.\n\nIn other words there is a great deal involved in deciphering the Qur'an.\nThe Qur'an asks us to reflect on its verses, but this reflection must\nentail more than simply reading a verse and its corresponding hadith.\nIf the reflection is for the sake of increasing personal piety, then each\nperson has his own level of understanding and there is no harm in that.\nHowever, if the reflection is in order to decide matters that pertain to\nthe\nState, to the gestation of laws and rulings, to the gestation of society,\nthe dispensing of justice, the guidance of the community, then there \nare certain minimum requirements of understanding that one \nshould achieve. Jaffar Ibn Muhammad as-Sadiq(a.s.) relates some of \nthese requirements, as taught by the Prophet(S.A.), in a hadith:\n\n\"...he who does not distinguish in the Book of Allah the abrogating\nverse from the abrogated one, and a specific one from a general one,\nand a decisive from an ambiguous; and does not differentiate between\na permission and an obligation, and does not recognize a verse of\nMeccan period from a Medinite one, and does not know the circumstances \nof revelation, and does not understand the technical words of\nthe Qur'an (whether simple or compound); and does not comprehend the\nknowledge of decree and measure, and is ignorant of advancing and\ndelaying (in its verses); and does not distinguish the clear from\nthe deep, nor the manifest from the esoteric, nor the beginning\nfrom the termination; and is unaware of the question and the answer,\nthe disjoining and the joining, and the exceptions and the all-inclusive,\nand is ignorant of an adjective of a preceding noun that explains the\nsubsequent one; and is unaware of the emphasized subject and the\ndetailed one, the obligatory laws and the permissions, the places of the\nduties and rules, and the meaning of the lawful and the unlawful; and\ndoes not know the joined words, and the words that are related to those\ncoming before them, or after them - then such a man does not know\nthe Qur'an; nor is he among the people of the Qur'an....\".\n\nBased on these and other hadiths, and in accordance with many Qur'anic\nverses (\"Why should not a company from every group remain behind \nto gain profound understanding (tafaqquh) in religion and to warn \npeople when they return to them, so that they may beware.\" (9:122)),\na science of jurisprudence arose. The requirements\nfor a person to be considered a mujtahid (one who can pronounce on\nmatters of law and religion) are many. I've listed a few major \ndivisions below - there are, of course, many subdivisions within these\nheadings.\n\n- Knowledge of Arabic (syntax, conjugation, roots, semantics, oratory).\n- Knowledge of tafsir and principles of tafsir.\n- Logic (mantiq)\n- A knowledge of Hadiths\n- A knowledge of transmitters (rijal)\n- Knowledge of the principles of juriprudence (Qur'an, Sunnah, Consensus,\nReasoning)\n\nThe study of Qur'an and sunnah for purposes of law involves:\n- discussion of imperatives (awamir)\n- discussion of negative imperatives (nawahi)\n- discussion of generalities and particularities (aam wa khas)\n- discussion of unconditional and conditional\n- discussion of tacit meanings\n- discussion of the abstract and the clear\n- discussion of the abrogator and the abrogated\n\nThe principles of Application of the law involves:\n- principles of exemption\n- principles of precaution\n- principles of option\n- principles of mastery\n\nThe jurisprudent is bound to go through a very rigorous process\nin pronouncing judgement on a given situation. It is not a matter\nof looking at one verse and one hadith. \n\nNow no one should blindly follow anyone, but there is a difference\nbetween blind following and acceding to the opinion of someone who is\nclearly more knowledgeable and more qualified than oneself. There is the\n\"The fuqaha (religious scholars) are the trustees of the Prophet, as \nlong as they do not concern themselves with the illicit desires, pleasures,\nand wealth of this world.\" The Prophet (S.A.) was asked: \"O Messenger\nof God! How may we know if they so concern themselves?\" He (S.A.) replied:\n\"By seeing whether they follow the ruling power. If they do that, fear for\nyour religion and shun them.\" I do not yet know enough about the Imams\nof the four Sunni madhabs to comment on how this hadith applies\nto them or to the contemporary scholars who base themselves upon them.\n\nThe Prophet also refered to the fuqaha as \"The fortress of Islam\". My only\npoint is to make it clear that arriving at a legal judgement calls into\nplay a certain amount of expertise - the specifics of this expertise is \ndelineated in the Qur'an and hadith. Those who acquire this expertise\nare praised in both the Qur'an and hadith - those who without the requisite\nknowledge pronounce on matters that affect society, state, and religion \nare cautioned.\n\nThe only reason I said anything at all about the Rushdie affair in this\ngroup, is because the whole basis for the discussion of the fatwa (that is,\napostasy), was wrong. When one discusses something they should at least\nbase their discussion on fact. Secondly, Khomeini was condemned as a\nheretic\nbecause he supposedly claimed to be infallible - another instance of\ncreating a straw man and then beating him.\n\n\nI agree that we should move the discussion to another newsgroup.\nUnfortunately,\nI do not have any access to email, so private discussion or a moderated\ngroup\nis out of the question (I cannot post to a moderated group like\nsoc.religion.islam. How about soc.culture.arabic or talk.religion.misc?","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nI am one of those folks who traded UP from a 500 to an Audio Research SP9 II!\n\n:-)","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
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{"text":"\n\tThe subject line says it all. What is the rule that qualifies\na pitcher as making a save?\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Below is the list of large (at least 18 inches diagonal) monochrome\nmonitors which Computer Shopper lists as PC compatible.  I've omitted\nRadius because Radius states that they no longer support the PC.\n\nYou will notice that Nanao is the only one which supports a 31.5Khz\nhorizontal frequency, which is the frequency normally used by VGA cards\nat boot up.  My guess is that all the other monitors come with their\nown graphics cards.  I've left voice mail with Nanao asking them to\nsend me some literature, and will report back to the net after I've\nstudied it.\n\nThe prices given appear to be list prices and have little relationship\nto reality.\n\t\t\t\t\tKenneth Almquist\n\n\n\n--------------------------------- cut here ---------------------------------\n\nCornerstone Technology\n1990 Concourse Dr.\nSan Jose, CA 95131\n408-435-8900\n\n  DualPage 120:\n    Diagonal:        19 inches\n    Max Resolution:  1600x1280\n    Frequencies:     105Khz horizontal, 76Hz vertical\n    Dimensions:      19x18x17 inches\n    Price:           $1495\n    Compatible with: PC;PS\/2\n\n  DualPage 150:\n    Diagonal:        19 inches\n    Max Resolution:  2048x1538\n    Frequencies:     105Khz horizontal, 67Hz vertical\n    Dimensions:      19x18x17 inches\n    Price:           $1595\n    Compatible with: PC;PS\/2\n\n\nIkegami Electronics (U.S.A.), Inc.\n37 Brook Ave.\nMaywood, NJ 07670\n201-368-9171\n\n  DM-2010AD:\n    Diagonal:        20 inches\n    Max Resolution:  1280x1024\n    Frequencies:     48-64Khz horizontal, 59-80Hz vertical\n    Price:           $995\n    Compatible with: PC\n\n\nImage Systems Corp.\n11595 K-Tel\nHopkins, NM 55343\n800-462-4370 or 612-935-1171\n\n  M21LMAX:\n    Diagonal:        21 inches\n    Max Resolution:  2048x1536\n    Frequencies:     48-108Khz horizontal, 60-80Hz vertical\n    Dimensions:      17x20x19 inches\n    Price:           $1995\n    Compatible with: PC;PS\/2;Mac\n\n  M21LV-65MAX:\n    Diagonal:        21 inches\n    Max Resolution:  1280x1024\n    Frequencies:     15-65Khz horizontal, 55-90Hz vertical\n    Price:           $4695\n    Compatible with: PC;PS\/2;Mac\n\n  M21PMAX :\n    Diagonal:        21 inches\n    Max Resolution:  1280x1664\n    Frequencies:     48-108Khz horizontal, 60-80Hz vertical\n    Dimensions:      19x15x17 inches\n    Price:           $2500\n    Compatible with: PC;PS\/2;Mac\n\n  M24PMAX :\n    Diagonal:        24 inches\n    Max Resolution:  1280x1664\n    Frequencies:     48-108Khz horizontal, 60-80Hz vertical\n    Dimensions:      22x18x18 inches\n    Price:           $2600\n    Compatible with: PC;PS\/2;Mac\n\n\nNanao USA Corp.\n23535 Telo Ave.\nTorrence, CA 90505\n310-325-5202\n\n  FlexScan 6500:\n    Diagonal:        21 inches\n    Max Resolution:  1664x1200\n    Frequencies:     31.5;56-80Khz horizontal, 55-90Hz vertical\n    Dimensions:      18x20x17 inches\n    Price:           $1989\n    Compatible with: PC;PS\/2;Mac\n\n\nRan-Ger Technologies, Inc.\n[Address unknown]\n\n  The Genuis Model 1920M:\n    Diagonal:        19 inches\n    Max Resolution:  1280x1024\n    Frequencies:     64Khz horizontal, 60Hz vertical\n    Dimensions:      17x19x17 inches\n    Price:           $950\n    Compatible with: PC\n\n\nSampo Corp. of America\nP. O. Box 105084\nAtlanta, GA 30348\n404-449-6220\n\n  ImagePRO 120:\n    Diagonal:        20 inches\n    Max Resolution:  1600x1280\n    Frequencies:     81Khz horizontal, 72Hz vertical\n    Price:           $1995\n    Compatible with: PC\n\n  OfficePRO IIe:\n    Diagonal:        20 inches\n    Max Resolution:  1280x1024\n    Frequencies:     75Khz horizontal, 70Hz vertical\n    Price:           $1549\t(Advertized $999 pg. 390 April Shopper)\n    Compatible with: PC\n\n\nSamsung Electronics America, Inc.\n[Address unknown.  You could try\n\tSamsung Information Systems, Inc.\n\t3655 N. 1st. St.\n\tSan Joes, CA 95134\n\t408-434-5400]\n\n  PageMaster 2 (MU9511A\/AM):\n    Diagonal:        20 inches\n    Max Resolution:  1280x1024\n    Frequencies:     66Khz horizontal, 63Hz vertical\n    Dimensions:      18x18x15 inches\n    Price:           $899\n    Compatible with: PC;Mac\n\n\nSigma Designs, Inc.\n47900 Bayside Pkwy.\nFreemont, CA 94583\n510-770-0100\n\n  L-View:\n    Diagonal:        19 inches\n    Max Resolution:  1664x1200\n    Frequencies:     75Khz horizontal, 60-92Hz vertical\n    Dimensions:      18x19x17 inches\n    Price:           $1099\n    Compatible with: PC;PS\/2;Mac\n\n  L-View Multimode:\n    Diagonal:        19 inches\n    Max Resolution:  1664x1200\n    Frequencies:     75Khz horizontal, 60-92Hz vertical\n    Dimensions:      18x19x17 inches\n    Price:           $1299\n    Compatible with: PC;PS\/2;Mac\n\n  MultiMode 120:\n    Diagonal:        19 inches\n    Max Resolution:  1664x1200\n    Frequencies:     94.7Khz horizontal, 76-116Hz vertical\n    Dimensions:      18x19x17 inches\n    Price:           $1299 (min)\n    Compatible with: PC","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"How can one dump to the printer, the content of a VGA screen. If it were\na text screen, we can execute a shift printscr. but with graphics, we have\nto do a pixed by pixel print. It would be greatly appreciated if someone can\nsupply source code for this. Alternately, are there commercial or shareware\nprograms that are available to do this. I must be able to shell out of my \nprogram to execute this print screen.  Therefore, it would be prefferable to have source code.\n\nThank you in advance\n\n-- \n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nRickey Tom                       | Internet Style: aruba!rickt@uu2.psi.com\nProgrammer\/Analyst Project ZE    | UUCP          : ...!uunet!uupsi2!aruba!rickt","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (John Bell) babbles from Scotland, one of England's\nlast remaining colonies:\n\n\n\nPeople who were dumb enough to believe Klinton was a moderate deserve what\nthey get too.  It's a real laugh to hear them try to justify this massacre\nwith bullsh*t about how concerned they were about how our tax money was\nwas being spent.  (Wasting money keeping Texans alive?  Hell no. let's\nspend it to import Haitians with AIDS so we can treat them at taxpayer\nexpense.  %^P  )\n\n\nSo what?  The Feds killed 90+ civilians when they \"ran out of patience\", to use\ntheir own phrase.  If the Feds hadn't attacked them, they'd all be home eating \ndinner with their families tonight.  Too bad, but they started it.  Maybe\nnext time they'll think twice.  That's worth 4 stormtroopers.\n\n\nNobody says he is.  What he was was a victim of a left-wing government,\nthat violated its pledge to protect and uphold the Constitution, run amok.  \nDon't worry, though dweeb, we're gonna take it back.  (Hey, I'm a white guy,\nbut would it be OK if I quoted Malcolm X here, and said \"by any means \nnecessary\"?  Nah, never mind.  We can do this legally...\n\n\nNO, you're just a brainless f*cking trogladyte.  Go beat up some soccer\nfans.  Ignorance is bliss, so drool on with that stupid smile on your \nface when people die needlessly. I hope a badger climbs up your kilt.\n\n(Don't expect these UKies to care about this, folks...  these bastards\nnever did like the idea that we Americans had the means to defend ourselves \nand wouldn't stand for tyranical governments, which is why we sent them packing \nback to their dreary little island with their tails between their legs twice.)\n\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I am considering the purchse of a 1987 VW Jetta GLI with 87k miles on it.\nI recently found out that there are two versions of the GLI -- 8v and 16v.\nI know of three differences between the two cars that both carry the same\nname:  the 16v version has 20 more horsepower, 4 wheel discs, and a standard\nsunroof. \nOops, that's the difference between the GLI 16v and the regular GL !!\nSo in addition to the engine, what other differences exist between the\ntwo models of the Jetta GLI ?\nMore importantly, how can I tell which version this one is ?  There are\nno badges that said \"16v\" so I am inclined to think that is the 8v version.\nAssuming this one (the one I looked at) is the 8v version, is there a valid\nreason to buy it instead of a comparably equipped GL which would cost less ?\n(Of course I would love to get the 16v version, but money talks.)","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\tActually, for digital HDTV systems that's far higher bandwidth than\nyou need, unless there's some reason you must work in fully-uncompressed\nHDTV.  Also, my calculations is that each frame should be well under 6MB,\neven using 24 bits\/pixel (which is more bits than you actually need - 15 or\n18 should be enough for a moving picture).  1600x1100x16bits is 3.5MB (I'm\nguessing at HDTV resolution - it may be a bit wider than 1600, I'm fairly\nsure of the 1100 number for most of the digital proposals).\n\n\tI hope you have a very fast memory system as well - 180MB\/s while\ndisplaying will require a heavily interleaved VRAM system.\n\n\tUnless you have a _very_ compelling reason, I'd advise trying to use\nat least somewhat compressed data.  You don't have to go to full compression\nto get to a level where the data IO requirements are much cheaper and easier\nto deal with.\n\n-- \nGNU Emacs is a LISP operating system disguised as a word processor.\n - Doug Mohney, in comp.arch","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":")Many high-end graphics cards come with C source code for doing basic graphics\n)sorts of things (change colors, draw points\/lines\/polygons\/fills, etc.).  Does\n)such a library exist for generic VGA graphics cards\/chips, hopefully in the\n)public domain?  This would be for the purpose of compiling under a non-DOS\n)operating system running on a standard PC.\n\nCheck the server code for X11R5.  (or \"XFree86\")","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n \n\nNo wonder you clown are in such a mess. Let's take Sarkis Atamian's (an \nArmenian Dashnak sociolog) book, \"The Armenian Community\", pages 97 and \n105. Atamian quotes:\n\n \"... the immediate question concerned itself with the organization and\n tactics of revolution. The liberation of Armenia, the immediate aim of\n the Party, was to be attained by:\n\n      1. Oral and written propaganda.\n      2. Terrorism - both as punishment against the enemy and as a measure\n         of self defense. \n      3. The creation of an avant-garde of revolutionary groups to be\n         equipped and prepared for action when other nations were prepared\n         for a general uprising.\n      4. The organization of larger committees to be in constant contact with\n         each other and subject to a central body.\n      5. Organization of units of guerilla fighters.\"\n\nNow, on page 105, Atamian's book quotes of Armenian constitution:\n\n \"... If the means was revolution, how was the revolution to be attained?\n By:\n\n      1. Propaganda \n      2. Preparation of combat units and their indoctrination\n      3. Encouragement of the revolutionary morale of the people\n      4. The arming of the people\n      5. Organization of revolutionary committees\n      6. Espionage throughout the country and the exchange of information with\n         the official bodies and journals\n      7. Organization of financial zones for public collection \n      8. 'Fighting and using' the weapon of the terror on corrupt government\n         officers, spies, traitors, grafters, and all sorts of oppressors\n      9. Defense of the people against attacks from the brigandry\n     10. Building of roads for the transport of arms\n     11. Wrecking and looting of governmental institutions.\"\n\nMany of the recent Armenian terrorist acts against the Turkish people \nwere committed by the brainwashed members of the \"Tzeghagron\", namely, \n\"race-worshipers\" of the Dashnag Youth Organization. Ironically, again, \nTzeghagron was set up by an undisputed Armenian Nazi, Karekin Nejdeh,\nin 1941 (see Atamian, loc cit, page 389).\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nHave you tried having your scsi bus balanced?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nThat would be nice, but considering professional diplomats between Israel and\nAthe Arabs have been unable to do so for 45 years, I can't see us starting.\nBut hey - as soon as anyone wants to discuss things reasonably and in a \nscholarly manner, count me in.\n\nAnyway the responses were mostly negative and I've been\n\nPeople have very strong opinions and you need to be careful regarding what \nyou say - if you say, make it factual and be able to back it up.\n\n\nThanks for teaching us about the civilized world, Andi.  I guess we all just \ncame out either the desert or the ghetto, right?  And no, we are not paid\nIsraeli lobbyists nor are we conspirators of the ZOG - we are just people who\nbelieve in our cause and find offense when people imply some sort dirty dealing\nor disloyalty due to our love of Israel (disguised as \"paid Israeli lobbyists\" -\nwhat kind of image is that?) \n\n\nOh!  Thank you!  I needed your approval of my heritage.  I guess I can go home\nand feel good now and sleep comfartably knowing that Jews _really_ aren't\nworse people than anyone else, contrary to what we all _know_ is true.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Yes, Matt, dear Newbie, best advice is read here foe a few days.\nThis is your best source of info.\n\n(Kinda makes me glad that I discovered r.m well after I got into riding--\n could I have possibly sounded like *that* otherwise?  --eesh.)\n\nBTW Matt, despite the insults you are destined to face, great move \non taking the MSF course.  It will save your butt.\n\nGood Luck,","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Looking for a Mac PB 100 that's in good condition (brand new, w\/warranty\nwould be ideal).  It should also include the external floppy drive and have\nat least a 40 MEG internal hard drive with 4 MEG of RAM.\n\nSo... if you have a PB100 that you'd like to turn into cash, please write me.\n\nThanks, very much.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":" \n\n[\"it\" is Big Bang]\n\nSince you asked... from the Big Bang to the formation of atoms is about\n10E11 seconds. As for the \"color\": bright. Very very bright. \n\n\nI don't. I believe the current theory of cosmology because it is fairly\nwell supported by observational evidence (not as well supported as, say\nevolution or relativity, but that's another matter). You're the one who\nproposes unquestioningly accepting religious dogma as fact (apologies if\nyou're not actually a creationist).\n\n\nThe line is broader than you think. Theories are supported by evidence.\nMiracles are supported by someone's say-so.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"[deleted]\n[deleted]\nOk, so those scientists can get around the atmosphere with fancy\ncomputer algorythims, but have you looked ad the Hubble results, the\ndefects of the mirror are partially correctable with software (see\nthose jupiter pictures for results), but is the effects are completely\nreversable, why is there going to be a shuttle mission to fix it?\n\nThe way I see it (and please, astromomers give me a swift net-kick in\nthe butt if i'm out of the ball park), the astromers are making the\nbest of limited possiblities, there's only one hubble, and the shuttle\nmakes another in the near future a non-thought.  Perhaps those self\nsame billboards could have small optical receptors of a limited kind\nmounted on the reverse sides of the mirror's (if that is what is used)\nand then the whole thing becomes a giant array telescope...\n\n-- ","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Hi everybody out there,\nI just got the third beta release disk (march 93) of WindowsNT\nand still am not able to boot up that system. The final step\nachieved is the display of IO-error 0x0069. But, since this is\nthe beta release of the SDK for NT and not of NT, Microsoft does\nnot include a manual on the OS itself, explaining what this\nerror means of what I can do to get rid of. My configuration\nis: \nMainboard     Hauppauge 4860-25, rev. A7 (a 486 with socket for i860)\n              28megs of memory (512k*36,1M*36,2M*36)\nAMI EISA SCSI controller (15series), latest bios, 16MB cache \n              ST41200N hard disk\n              Syquest 555 removable disk\n              Toshiba 3301 CD ROM drive\nProAudio Spectrum Plus 16\nLongshine Ethernet card LCS8634 (NE2000 comp.)\nET4000 graphics card, 1Meg (ColorImage5)\nThe system is running fine under DOS and Windows 3.1 etc, but\ntrying to do the setup for NT,\n- automatic setup does not recognize controller (AHA1542-compat.)\n  when adding manually, NT complains not finging any CD-ROM drive\n- the manual setup (WINNT) does not copy everything from CD to HD,\n  does not recognize controller, but takes it manually.\n  Setup continues until it tries to boot. Then it starts loading\n  several stuff from disk (seems to fing the HD), but messing up\n  with that damned IO-Error 69.\nI took away all IO cards not essential, but that did not make any\neffect.\nAnybody got any ideas? Help would be greatly appreciated.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Fiberglass boards are available in several colors.  Sitting right\nhere, I have unetched board stock that is white, blue, green and\nyellow respectively.  I've also seen black boards.\n\nSolder mask is available in a variety of colors too.  Depending on\nthe supplier, the color helps indentify the material.\n\nDon't forget conformal coating.\n\nI don't think I've seen phenolic impregnated paper boards in\nanything other than the familar brown, but it would not be\ndifficult to add a dye to change the color.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nFrom what I saw of the videotape, there was an explosion which looked\nmore like one due to propane rather than (official version)\nammunition.\n\n\nIf only we could be certain that the hard evidence will be released.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\"They're real and they're spectacular\", the Blues shutout the Blackhawks in\nconsecutive playoff games. \n\nIf the Blues sweep the Hawks on Sunday, I will launch a broom onto the ice\nin the last seconds of the game. \"Not that there's anything wrong with that.\"\n\nCurtis Joseph has been the \"master of his own domain\", and the Hawks have\nbeen shooting the puck like a bunch of \"chuckers\". Not even \"Superman\" could\nplay any better in goal. Joseph must have been eating his \"cereal.\"\n\n\"It's like a sauna in here\" said a spectator about the hot atmosphere and\nthe wild crowd at the Arena.\n\nIt was \"very refreshing\" to see the Blues \"double-dip\" the Hawks.\n\nThe Hawks goons tried to \"pick\" on Hull, Janney, and Joseph but the Blues\nchecking line \"nipped\" those Hawks real well.\n\nThe fat \"Yoyoma\" will sing on Sunday, and the Hawks will head to the \"beach\".\nThe Hawks' trip back to Chicago will feel like a long \"journey from Milan\nto Minsk\"\n\nEnjoy Sunday's game with some Junior Mints and wash them down with a Snapple.\n\nJust a little fun.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nNo, Fuhr's 5 rings out sparkle Errey's. And doesn't Bob have 2 rings?","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nShit, i'm going to be a lot more carefull filling by income tax!   ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I am saving an image on one machine and redisplaying the image on\nanother machine (both are HP 9000 Model 750s).  The image is created\nusing XCreateImage and XGetImage and displayed with XPutImage.  The\nimage is redisplayed correctly except that the colors are wrong because\nthe server on the other machine is using a different colormap.\n\nI tried saving the colormap (pixel and rgb values) and on the redisplay,\nperformed a table lookup against the new colormap.  This didn't work\nbecause some rgb combos don't exist in the new colormap.\n\nIs there a way to force the server to load colors into set pixel values, or\nis there a simpler way to solve this problem?  I tried using xinitcolormap\nbut couldn't get that to work either.\n\nAny help would be appreciated.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\"Isaac Asimov read creationist books.  He read the Bible.  He had ample\nopportunity to kneel before his Creator and Savior.  He refused.  In\nfact, he sent out a strong promotional letter urging support of the\nAmerican Humanist Association, shortly before he died.\"\n\n   --excerpt from Ken Ham, \"Asimov Meets His Creator,\" _Back to Genesis_\n     No. 42, June 1992, p. c (included in _Acts & Facts_ vol. 21, no. 6,\n     June 1992, from the Institute for Creation Research).  This is one\n     of the most offensive articles they've ever published--but at least\n     it argues *against* a deathbed conversion.  There's a part of the\n     article even worse than what I've just quoted, in which an excerpt\n     from a reader's letter says that if Asimov is burning in hell now,\n     \"then he certainly has had a 180-degree change in his former beliefs\n     about creation and the Creator.\"  (A post-deathbed conversion.)","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I am having trouble viewing GIF files on my system.  Large sections\ndon't show up.  I have tried VPIC and PICEM - both do the same.  I am\nrunning a Gateway 486\/33C with a Speedstar Plus VGA card and an\nNEC Multisync 4Ds 16 inch monitor.  Any suggestions?  I don't know if \nRobert Woodward\nDepartment of Physiology, University of Missouri, Columbia, MO  65212\ne-mail:  c557652@mizzou1.missouri.edu\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nOfranko. Coming from a self-exposed historical revisionist, a \nself-admitted anti-Muslim and a genocide apologist, Hamaza should \ntake your drivel as a compliment. Furthermore, you even deny the \nobvious. There was a genocide of the Muslims carried out by order of \nthe fascist x-Soviet Armenian Government. Massacres of Muslims must be \nstudied in detail, because they are the first modern example of the \nhorrible crime of genocide. Blame must be apportioned to the Armenians\nand their supporters for the murder of Muslims. The Turkish historic \nhomeland, emptied of its native population until today, remains occupied \nby the x-Soviet Armenian Government. Today, x-Soviet Armenia covers up \nthe genocide perpetrated by its predecessors and is therefore an accessory \nto this crime against humanity. x-Soviet Armenia must pay for its crime \nof genocide against the Muslims by admitting to the crime and making \nreparations to the Turks and Kurds.\n\nThe following are the Jewish and Armenian sources on the cold-blooded\ngenocide perpetrated by the x-Soviet Armenian Government against 2.5\nmillion Muslim people between 1914 and 1920. Still denying the obvious?\n\n\nSource: Stanford J. Shaw, on Armenian collaboration with invading Russian\narmies in 1914, \"History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey (Volume\nII: Reform, Revolution & Republic: The Rise of Modern Turkey, 1808-1975).\"\n(London, Cambridge University Press 1977). pp. 315-316.\n\n\"In April 1915 Dashnaks from Russian Armenia organized a revolt in the city \n of Van, whose 33,789 Armenians comprised 42.3 percent of the population, \n closest to an Armenian majority of any city in the Empire...Leaving Erivan \n on April 28, 1915, Armenian volunteers reached Van on May 14 and organized \n and carried out a general slaughter of the local Muslim population during \n the next two days.\"\n\n\"Knowing their numbers would never justify their territorial ambitions,\n Armenians looked to Russia and Europe for the fulfillment of their aims.\n Armenian treachery in this regard culminated at the beginning of the First\n World War with the decision of the revolutionary organizations to refuse\n to serve their state, the Ottoman Empire, and to assist instead other\n invading Russian armies. Their hope was their participation in the Russian\n success would be rewarded with an independent Armenian state carved out of\n Ottoman territories. Armenian political leaders, army officers, and common\n soldiers began deserting in droves.\"\n\n\"With the Russian invasion of eastern Anatolia in 1914 at the beginning of\n World War I, the degree of Armenian collaboration with the Ottoman's enemy\n increased drastically. Ottoman supply lines were cut by guerilla attacks,\n Armenian revolutionaries armed Armenian civil populations, who in turn\n massacred the Muslim population of the province of Van in anticipation of\n expected arrival of the invading Russian armies.\"\n\n\nSource: Stanford J. Shaw, \"History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey,\"\n        Vol II. Cambridge University Press, London, 1979, pp. 314-317.\n\n\"...Meanwhile, Czar Nicholas II himself came to the Caucasus to make final\n plans for cooperation with the Armenians against the Ottomans, with the \n president of the Armenian National Bureau in Tiflis declaring in response:\n\n 'From all countries Armenians are hurrying to enter the ranks of the \n  glorious Russian Army, with their blood to serve the victory of Russian\n  arms...Let the Russian flag wave freely over the Dardanelles and the\n  Bosporus. Let, with Your will, great Majesty, the peoples remaining\n  under the Turkish yoke receive freedom. Let the Armenian people of Turkey\n  who have suffered for the faith of Christ receive resurrection for a new\n  free life under the protection of Russia.'[155]\n\nArmenians again flooded into the czarist armies. Preparations were made\nto strike the Ottomans from the rear, and the czar returned to St. Petersburg\nconfident that the day finally had come for him to reach Istanbul.\"\n\n[155] Horizon, Tiflis, November 30, 1914, quoted by Hovannisian, \"Road to\nIndependence,\" p. 45; FO 2485, 2484\/46942, 22083.\n\n\"Ottoman morale and military position in the east were seriously hurt, and\n the way was prepared for a new Russian push into eastern Anatolia, to be\n accompanied by an open Armenian revolt against the sultan.[156]\"\n\n[156] Hovannisian, \"Road to Independence,\" pp. 45-47; Bayur, III\/1, \npp. 349-380; W.E.D. Allen and P. Muratoff, \"Caucasian Battlefields,\"\nCambridge, 1953, pp. 251-277; Ali Ihsan Sabis, \"Harb Hahralaram,\" 2 vols.,\nAnkara, 1951, II, 41-160; FO 2146 no. 70404; FO 2485; FO 2484, nos.\n46942 and 22083.\n\n\"An Armenian state was organized at Van under Russian protection, and it \n appeared that with the Muslim natives dead or driven away, it might be\n able to maintain itself at one of the oldest centers of ancient Armenian\n civilization. An Armenian legion was organized 'to expel the Turks from\n the entire southern shore of the lake in preparation for a concerted\n Russian drive into the Bitlis vilayet.'[162] Thousands of Armenians from\n Mus and other major centers in the east began to flood into the new \n Armenian state...By mid-July there were as many as 250,000 Armenians\n crowded into the Van area, which before the crisis had housed and fed\n no more than 50,000 people, Muslim and non-Muslim alike.[163]\"\n\n[162] Hovannisian, \"Road to Independence,\" p. 56; FOP 2488, nos. 127223 and\n58350.\n\n[163] BVA, Meclis-i Vukela Mazbatalari, debates of August 15-17, 1915; \nBabi-i Ali Evrak Odasi, no. 175, 321, \"Van Ihtilali ve Katl-i Ami,\"\nZilkade 1333\/10 September 1915.\n\n\nSource: Hovannisian, Richard G.: Armenia on the Road to Independence, 1918.\nUniversity of California Press (Berkeley and Los Angeles), 1967, p. 13.\n\n\"The addition of the Kars and Batum oblasts to the Empire increased the\n area of Transcaucasia to over 130,000 square miles. The estimated population\n of the entire region in 1886 was 4,700,000, of whom 940,000 (20 percent) were\n Armenian, 1,200,000 (25 percent) Georgian, and 2,220,000 (45 percent) Moslem.\n Of the latter group, 1,140,000 were Tatars. Paradoxically, barely one-third\n of Transcaucasia's Armenians lived in the Erevan guberniia, where the \n Christians constituted a majority in only three of the seven uezds. Erevan\n uezd, the administrative center of the province, had only 44,000 Armenians\n as compared to 68,000 Moslems. By the time of the Russian Census of 1897,\n however, the Armenians had established a scant majority, 53 percent, in the\n guberniia; it had risen by 1916 to 60 percent, or 670,000 of the 1,120,000\n inhabitants. This impressive change in the province's ethnic character \n notwithstanding, there was, on the eve of the creation of the Armenian \n Republic, a solid block of 370,000 Tartars who continued to dominate the \n southern districts, from the outskirts of Ereven to the border of Persia.\" \n (See also Map 1. Historic Armenia and Map 4. Administrative subdivisions of \n Transcaucasia).\n\nIn 1920, '0' percent Turk. \n\n\"We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as \n ways of escape for the Tartars and then proceeded in the work \n of extermination. Our troops surrounded village after village. \n Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked the huts \n into heaps of stone and dust and when the villages became untenable \n and inhabitants fled from them into fields, bullets and bayonets \n completed the work. Some of the Tartars escaped of course. They \n found refuge in the mountains or succeeded in crossing the border \n into Turkey. The rest were killed. And so it is that the whole \n length of the borderland of Russian Armenia from Nakhitchevan to \n Akhalkalaki from the hot plains of Ararat to the cold mountain \n plateau of the North were dotted with mute mournful ruins of \n Tartar villages. They are quiet now, those villages, except for \n howling of wolves and jackals that visit them to paw over the \n scattered bones of the dead.\" \n\n                             Ohanus Appressian\n                            \"Men Are Like That\"\n                                   p. 202.\n\n\n\"An appropriate analogy with the Jewish Holocaust might be the\n systematic extermination of the entire Muslim population of \n the independent republic of Armenia which consisted of at \n least 30-40 percent of the population of that republic. The \n memoirs of an Armenian army officer who participated in and \n eye-witnessed these atrocities was published in the U.S. in\n 1926 with the title 'Men Are Like That.' Other references abound.\"\n     (Rachel A. Bortnick - The Jewish Times - June 21, 1990)\n\n\n 1.\"Men Are Like That\" by Leonard A. Hartill, Bobbs Co., Indianapolis, \n   1926\n\n   Memoirs of an Armenian Army Officer translated to English and\n   published by a member of American \"Near East Relief Organization.\"\n   Gives the whole account of the genocide of all Turkish and Moslem\n   people in Armenia organized and executed by Armenian Government and\n   Army. Also gives account of countless other massacres and atrocities\n   against the Turkish people in Armenia.\n\n 2.\"Adventures in the Near East, 1918-22\" by A. Rawlinson,\n   Dodd, Meade & Co., 1925\n\n   Eyewitness account of the same genocide by a British Army Officer.\n\n 3.\"World Alive, A Personal Story\" by Robert Dunn,\n   Crown Publishers, Inc., New York, 1952\n\n   Another eyewitness account of the same genocide by an American \n   Officer.\n\n 4.\"From Sardarapat to Serves and Lousanne\" by Avetis Aharonian,\n   The Armenian Review Magazine, Volume 15 (Fall 1962) through 17 \n   (Spring 1964)\n\n   Memoirs of the chief Armenian delegate to the Paris Peace Conference\n   were published in the Armenian Review Magazine in 13 articles from\n   Volume 15 (Fall 1962) to Volume 17 (Spring 1964). These memoirs \n   include an interview between Aharonian and British Foreign Minister \n   Lord Curzon in which above-mentioned genocide was discussed. The \n   official report mentioned by Lord Curzon is the report of British \n   High Commissioner to Caucasia, Sir Oliver Wardrop.\n\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nYou're definitely correct in that Williams absolutely has to be sandwiched\nin between Clark and Bonds.  He must, and I mean MUST, get fastballs to\nhit...otherwise he becomes little more than Sixto Lezcano in disguise.\nWhat I would suggest is perhaps batting Bonds, Williams, and Clark\n3-4-5, the reason being that I feel Bonds' potential basestealing\nabilities are wasted when he's stuck behind two slow runners.\nI think the chance of getting 20-30 extra stolen bases with Bonds in the\n3 spot would more than offset any drop in in run production by having \nClark in the 5 spot.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I have a 486\/50Mhz ISA Board with 256kbyte Cache and 16 Megs\nRAM. I just bought the new soundblaster 16 and tried to \ninstall the card. The sb16 uses 16bit DMA channel.I could\nselect between channel 5 to 7. It is the first card I ever\ninstalled that uses 16bit dma transfer. After I tested\nthe card the first time, the computer crashed and I got a\nparity error-system halted. This happens either from dos as\nalso from windows. So it seems that my 16 bit dma channels\nare not working properly (they are there because testsb16.exe\nrecocnize them and tests them ok until first access). \n\nWell, does anybody know a solution for this problem or a\nspecial test program for dma problems? I eliminated the \nproblem temporaly by using only 8 bit dma channel but it\nmakes the system slow!","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n  I am not a paranoid, nor a government toady, nor even am I the guy you were\ntalking to originally, but I think you are simply NOT PAYING ATTENTION.\n\n  A bunch of people living off by themselves with a lot of guns nearby is not\nthat wierd in Texas.  My own family, very quiet taxpayers with extremely con-\nventional views, has something like 10 rifles and shotguns in a two-person\nhome.  Some of them were mine, but I don't live there anymore.  I now have\nmy own shotgun in my apartment.\n\n  Texas Child Protective Services (which loves to find child abuse) found no,\nI repeat NO, evidence of abuse when they first looked at the BD, and is saying\nthat they see none in any of the kids who were released.  There is no evidence\nthat Koresh was banging anyone but his wives.\n\n  It is not against the law to stockpile (most) weapons or campbell's soup.  \nNor is there any hard evidence in the form of actual hardware (as I write this)\nto prove the BD really had any *proscribed* weapons.\n\n  I feel they were all loonies, but there is no indication that they ever \nbothered anyone.  They were gone after in the wrong ways for the wrong reasons,\nand the BATF and FBI who are so busy trumpeting this child abuse angle hasn't\ngot a leg to stand on or any right to be involved in such abuse cases anyway. \nIf there was any real danger of the BD's going out on a rampage, then that\nis up to the officers of the state of Texas, who are probably getting a per-\nverse bit of pleasure at getting to torque the Feds for fucking up something\nin their state.\n\nsemper fi,","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nI cannot believe you can make these claims given hard evidence of\nabuse.  Do you ignore stories about survellience of Martin Luther\nKing, have you blocked from your mind McCarthy's crusade in the 50's?\n\n\nAnd how many illegal wiretaps are performed?  Funny, but I'll be that\nthe FBI doesn't keep statistics on these!\n\n\"confidential informer\" = illegal wiretap\n\n\/-----------------------------------\\\n\\-----------------------------------\/\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nCase Western Reserve Med School teaches nutrition in its own section as\nwell as covering it in other sections as they apply (i.e. B12\ndeficiency in neuro as a cause of neuropathy, B12 deficiency in\nhematology as a cause of megaloblastic anemia), yet I sill\nhold the viewpoint of mainstream medicine:  candida can cause\nmucocutaneous candidiasis, and, in already very sick patients\nwith damaged immune systems like AIDS and cancer patients,\nsystemic candida infection.  I think \"The Yeast Connection\" is\na bunch of hooey.  What does this have to do with how well\nnutrition is taught, anyway?\n\nWell, maybe I'm getting picky, but I always thought that a yeast\nwas one form that a fungus could exist in, the other being the\nmold form.  Many fungi can occur as either yeasts or molds, \ndepending on environment.  Candida exibits what is known as\nreverse dimorphism - it exists as a mold in the tissues\nbut exists as a yeast in the environment.  Should we maybe\ncall it a mold infection?  a fungus infection?  Maybe we\nshould say it is caused by a mold-like fungus.\n ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Deeply grateful for citations to any papers on electronic cash schemes.\nEnquiring minds &c...","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nYes, he does.  BUT, the goalie sure as hell doesn't want him there!  When\nI played roller hockey (boy do I miss those days) as a goalie, I would\nscream at my defense to clear guys out of the slot.  I don't care if he's\nin the crease or not, get him the hell away from me so I can see the ball!\n(Yes, roller hockey, remember)  And if there was nobody around to clear\nthe slot, then I'd do it myself by pushing the offending player--*hard*. \nI *hate* people in my way when I'm the goalie, and I am sure Felix does\ntoo.  I should say that I didn't see the incident, so if Potvin really\nswung the stick big time, then that's not right, but he can move people\nout of the way.  He's a player on the ice too, you know.  :-)\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Okay, I got enough replies about the Kubota Kenai\/Denali systems that I\nwill post a summary of their capabilities.  I haven't actually used one\nor seen one, so take the specs with a grain of salt.  I'd like to see\nan independent review of one against, say, an SGI Indigo Extreme or\nsomething.\n\nBasically, the Kenai workstations are DEC Alpha AXP based workstations that\nrun OSF\/1 ( DEC's ) and will likely run Windows NT in the future.  They are\nbinary compatible with Digital's OSF\/1 Alpha AXP implementation.  Denali\nis their graphics subsystem, which is upgradable in the field by\nsimply adding \"transformation engines\".\n\nThe two main Kenai machines are the 3400 Imaging and 3D Graphics Workstation\nand the 3500 Imaging and 3D Graphics Workstation.\n\n\n\t\t\t3400\t\t\t3500\n\nCPU\t\t\tDEC Alpha AXP 133MHz\tDEC Alpha AXP 150MHz\nOn-chip cache\t\t8k\/8k\t\t\t8k\/8k\nOnboard cache\t\t512K\t\t\t512K\nWord Size\t\t64-bit\t\t\t64-bit\nMemory ( initial )\t32-128MB\t\t32-256MB\nMemory ( future )\t512MB\t\t\t1GB\nSPECMARK89\t\t111\t\t\t126\nSPECINT92\t\t75\t\t\t84\nSPECFP92\t\t112\t\t\t128\n\nGRAPHICS\n\nTransform Modules\t1-6\t\t\t1-6\nFrame Buffer Modules\t5,10,20\t\t\t5,10,20\nFrame Buffer\t\t1280x1024x24bit\t\t1280x1024x24bit\n\t\t\tdouble buffered\t\tdouble buffered\nZ-buffer\t\t24-bit\t\t\t24-bit\nAlpha\/stencil\t\t8-bit\t\t\t8-bit\nStereo support\t\tyes\t\t\tyes\nOther:\t\t\t\tboth machines will double buffer or do\n\t\t\t\tstereo output per window.  Both have an\n\t\t\t\tauxiliary video output that is RS-170A,\n\t\t\t\tNTSC, and PAL\n\nSTORAGE\n\nInternal-fixed\t\t2 3.5\"\t\t\t4 3.5\"\nInternal-removable\t1 5.25\"\t\t\t2 5.25\"\nMax capacity\t\t9.5GB\t\t\t11.6 GB\n\nIO\n\nBoth have TurboChannel 100MB\/sec, SCSI-2, Ethernet, and FDDI\n\nAPPLICATION PROGRAMMING INTERFACES\n\nBoth have libraries for Xlib, Motif, MIT PEXlib, DEC-PEXlib DEC-PHIGS, and GL\n\nOkay, now the real stuff.  The Kenai stations work with a graphics architecture\nknown as Denali.  The Denali comes in three models, the E, P, and V.  They\nuse a DECchip 21064 superscalar RISC processor at 150MHz.  Their\ncapabilities are as follows:\n\n\t\t\tE\t\tP\t\tV\n\n2D Vectors\t\t800-200K\t2000-3800K\t4000-4800K\n3D Vectors #1\t\t350-1100K\t1100-1800K\t1800-2100K\n3D Vectors #2\t\t300-1000K\t1000-1600K\t1600-1900K\n3D Vectors #3\t\t300-500K\t800-1000K\t1300-1400K\n3D Triangles, #4\t200-500K\t600-1000K\t1000-1200K\n3D Triangles, #5\t100-200K\t300-400K\t500-600K\n\n#1: 10 pixel, flat shaded, connected\n#2: 10 pixel, Gouraud shaded, connected\n#3: 10 pixel, 2-pixel wide, anti-aliased, connected\n#4: 50-pixel, Gouraud shaded, Z-buffered, strip\n#5: 50-pixel, texture mapped, persp., point sampled\n\nIMAGE PROCESSING\n\nCine loop - 8-bit\t15-36Mp\/s\t37-58 Mp\/s\t60-68 Mp\/s\nCine loop - 16-bit\t14 Mp\/s\t\t25 Mp\/s\t\t38 Mp\/s\nCine loop - 24-bit\t12-21 Mp\/s\t21 Mp\/s\t\t21 Mp\/s\nContrast stretching #1\t14 Mp\/s\t\t25 Mp\/s\t\t20 Mp\/s\nBilinear zoom\t\t6 Mp\/s\t\t11 Mp\/s\t\t20 Mp\/s\nTrilinear interp#2\t--\t\t6 Mvoxels\/s\t11 Mvoxels\/s\n\n#1: Lookup table -- 12-,16-bit to 8\n#2: Trilinear interpolation, 8-bit voxels\n\nCONFIGURATIONS\nFrame Buffer Modules\t5\t\t10\t\t20\nTransform Engine Mod.\t1-3\t\t3-5\t\t5-6\n\n\nAs you can see, these are pretty powerful workstations, and the best part\nis the pricing.  I would recommend that you call Kubota for more information.\nTheir number is 408-727-8100.  I'm sure they'll send you an information you\nmay want.  Oh, some prices:\n\nLow-end\n\nKenai 3400, E Series w\/ 1 TEM and 5 FBM --- 27,795 dollars U.S.\nKenai 3500, E Series w\/ 1 TEM and 5 FBM --- 45,345 dollars U.S.\n\nHigh-end\n\nKenai 3400, V Series w\/ 6 TEM and 20 FBM -- 61,795 dollars U.S.\nKenai 3500, V Series w\/ 6 TEM and 20 FBM -- 79,345 dollars U.S.\n\nIf someone could post a relative comparision with an Indigo Extreme or\nsomething I would appreciate it.\n\nHope this helps someone out there,\n\nBrian","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nnever heard of arguement by absurdity, eh no?  Also called\nsarcasm.  The usual procedure is to accept some part of the\n'oppositions' arguement and run with it until one goes\nbeyond 'rational thought' and then ring the changes.\n\nz.B. The idea of a minimum wage is considered a good one.\nAnd in these times of economic difficulty, the Washington\nlegislature is propossing to raise the State MinWage from\n$4.25 (the federal level) to $4.90 (fifteen cents over\nOregon's).\n\tIt would seem to me that this increase does not\nkeep pace with inflation, that the minimum wage should be\nto $6.08 by my figures, so it is proposed that we raise\nthe minimum wage to $6.50 per hour by 1 July and then give\na 10% cost of living increase every 4 July.\n\nand anyone who doesn't like it is obviously a country club\nrepublican getting rich off the exploitation of poor people.\n\nchus\npyotr\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nBut, Gary, for certain sofa tubers like myself, this is an advantage.  I\ncan watch the Pirates on KBL, the Mets on WWOR, the Braves on TBS, and the\nmediots on ESPN at the same time, without missing anything.  (If something\nimpressive happens, I'll catch the replay :-) ).\n\nSo, I see (essentially) 4 games in 3 hours, instead of 1 game in 2 hours.\nWhat a deal!\n\n(Insert smileys as desired...)\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"What is NASA's annual budget?\nThis year will do, a few years back wpuld be nice too\nbut I need this item fast so emails off the top of your head very\nmuch appreciated (FAQs vanish here!).\n\n-Tony Ryan, \"Astronomy & Space\", new International magazine, available from:\n              Astronomy Ireland, P.O.Box 2888, Dublin 1, Ireland.\n6 issues (one year sub.): UK 10.00 pounds, US$20 surface (add US$8 airmail).\nACCESS\/VISA\/MASTERCARD accepted (give number, expiration date, name&address).","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nonce upon a time, that's exactly what they would have done & everyone\ncould have just gone on living a peaceful (if well armed) life. what\nis it that makes people think they have the right -not- to just leave\nothers be?\n\njason\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nAnd from whence does this right stem, that it overrides the 'rights'\nof the rest of us?\n\n\nAnd if you want to view that television station, you have to watch the\ncommercials.  You can't turn them off and still be viewing the\ntelevision station.  In other words, if you don't like what you see,\ndon't look.  There is no 'right' I can think of that you have to force\nother people to conform to your idea of aesthetic behaviour.  What's\nnext, laws regulating how people must dress and look so as to appeal\nto your fashion sense, since you have this 'right' of an aesthetic\nview? \n\n\n\n\nWhich has what to do with the topic of discussion?\n\n\n\nOh, I see.  You don't want any legislation that might impinge on you;\nyou just want everyone else on the planet to do what you want.\n\n-- \n\"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live\n in the real world.\"   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Yes, Yes, I can see it now >>>> all those Sabre fans FINALLY taking\ntheir Sabre sweaters out of the moth balls and proudly wearing them.\nAfter 9 years of playoff frustration and being up 3 games to nil\nI guess it is a pretty good bet.    BUT there has not been a team\nthat has come back from an 0-3 deficit since 1975 - could this be\nthe year.   (Don't throw out the moth balls yet)","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Curtis Joseph and Ray LeBlanc have made some big moves in the\npoll recently. Hextall has shown some strong movement as well. Kirk\nMcLean and Tom Barrasso (I can't see why) have been added to the list\nrecently. Keep sending in those votes.\n\nCurrent votes for favorite goalie masks (3pts - 1st, 2pts - 2nd, 1pt - 3rd)\n\nPlayer                    Team                 Pts       Votes\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n1. Ed Belfour             Chicago              32         15\n   Curtis Joseph          St. Louis            32         13 \n3. Andy Moog              Boston               30         13\n4. Brian Hayward          San Jose             26         10 \n5. Ron Hextall            Quebec               16          8\n6. Grant Fuhr             Buffalo              12          5 \n7. Gerry Cheevers         Boston (retired)     11          6 \n8. John Vanbeisbrouck     NY Rangers           10          4\n9. Ray LeBlanc            USA Olympic           7          3\n10. Mike Richter          NY Rangers            6          3\n11. Manon Rheaume         Atlanta (IHL)         5          2\n12. Don Beaupre           Washington            4          2\n    Ken Dryden            Montreal (retired)    4          2\n--------------------------------------------------------------\nOthers receiving less than 4pts: Mike Vernon (Cal), Clint\n Malarchuk (Buf\/SD,IHL), Tommy Soderstrom (Phil), Tom Barrasso (Pit),\n Artus Irbe (SJ), Tim Cheveldae (Det), Sean Burke (NJ),\n Rick Wamsley (Tor,ret), Jon Casey (Minn), Bob Essensa (Win),\n Glenn Healy (NYI), Tony Espo (Chi), Gilles Gratton (Bos),\n Rod Stauber (LA), Gump Worsley (Mtl\/NYR), Pat Jablonski (TB),\n Grant Fuhr (Tor), Felix Potvin (Tor), Stephane Beauregard (Win),\n Mark Fitzpatrick (NYI), Chico Resch (NYI), Kirk McLean (Van)\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Heil Ajami!, or do you prefer\nHeil Martillo! or\nHeil Santos! or\nHeil Carlo! or\nHeil Joachim!<- This I would suggest against, it sounds too informal, mein\nfuhrer!","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nWhy not?  It hasn't been released, so there's no way for you to evaluate it \nyet.  After all, Apple could have been smart and had AOCE use an MD5 hash \nencrypted with RSA, just like PKCS signatures.  They could even be actually \nPKCS compliant, for all you know; why not wait until it is released, and hard \ninformation is available, before passing judgement on it?\n\nAOCE's algorithm's aren't secret because Apple's being fascistic--AOCE itself \nremains secret (except for Apple demos at MacWorld :)), simply because it's \nnot done yet.\n\nIt may be flawed, and it may not.  However, you can't tell which until you \nactually see it.  I, at least, am quite impressed with what I have seen so \nfar, and have no expectation of being disappointed.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I'm quite familiar with a variety of window title *setting* methods.\n\nMy question is...  Is there any way (via Resources, etc) to stop an\napplication's ability to re-name it's own Name \/ IconName properties?\n\n...who cares if it's not 'nice' to the application -\n\n\tI WANT CONTROL! ;-)\n\n-Mike\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nI didn't say the program is DISABLED, did I?  (I HATE!!!! it when people\ntake my words out of context...)  I mean that once you have installed it,\nyou cannot DEinstall it without registering it, or transfer it to another\nmachine, or SOME SORT OF LIMITATION (the author will decide), WHICH WILL\nBE REMOVED WHEN THE PROGRAM IS REGISTERED.  ","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nI don't understand this at all.  Matt Williams has demonstrated\nthroughout his career that he will NOT wait for good pitches to hit.\nHe won't take walks.  He'd rather swing.  If I'm the opposing pitcher,\nwhy would I groove a fastball to Williams and have him hit it well,\nwhen I know that Williams will swing (and miss, or at least not hit\nvery well) at a low and away curve?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\nNow you are actually claiming that 2,000,000 Muslims have been killed\nin B-H???\n\nPlease substantiate this utterly ridiculous claim.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nTake a look at TeleUSE, a complete UIMS from Alsys (formerly TeleSoft).\nIn the US, you can reach them at (619) 457 2700.\n\nAlsys have an VMS version of TeleUSE v2.0.5 for VMS V5.5 or higher,\nbuilt using DECwindows Motif 1.0 (based on X11R4 and Motif v1.1.1).\n\nBTW, the VMS port from the UNIX version was made at my company, and was\nreleased in November 1992.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nBe patient. He has a sore shoulder from crashing into the wall.\nThe Cards will give him all the time he needs to come around.\nHe is their full time centerfielder.\nHe will not however steal as often this year as he is hitting\nclean-up.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"please subscribe me.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\"Hate the sin but love the sinner\"...I've heard that quite a bit recently, \noften in the context of discussions about Christianity and homosexuality...\nbut the context really isn't that important. My question is whether that\nstatement is consistent with Christianity. I would think not.\n\nHate begets more hate, never love. Consider some sin. I'll leave it unnamed\nsince I don't want this to digress into an argument as to whether or not \nsomething is a sin. Now lets apply our \"hate the sin...\" philosophy and see\nwhat happens. If we truly hate the sin, then the more we see it, the \nstronger our hatred of it will become. Eventually this hate becomes so \nstrong that we become disgusted with the sinner and eventually come to hate\nthe sinner. In addition, our hatred of the sin often causes us to say and \ndo things which are taken personally by the sinner (who often does not even \nbelieve what they are doing is a sin). After enough of this, the sinner begins\nto hate us (they certainly don't love us for our constant criticism of their\nbehavior). Hate builds up and drives people away from God...this certainly\ncannot be a good way to build love.\n\nIn the summary of the law, Christ commands us to love God and to love our \nneighbors. He doesn't say anything about hate. In fact, if anything, he \ncommands us to save our criticisms for ourselves. So, how are Christians\nsupposed to deal with the sin of others? I suppose that there is only one\nway to deal with sin (either in others or ourselves)...through prayer. We\nneed to ask God to help us with our own sin, and to help those we love \nwith theirs. Only love can conquer sin...hatred has no place. The best way to\nlove someone is to pray for them. \n\n- Scott","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Yesterday, the FBI was saying that at least three of the bodies had\ngunshot wounds, indicating that they were shot trying to escape the\nfire.  Today's paper quotes the medical examiner as saying that there\nis no evidence of gunshot wounds in any of the recovered bodies.\n\nAt the beginning of this siege, it was reported that while Koresh\nhad a class III (machine gun) license, today's paper quotes the\ngovernment as saying, no, they didn't have a license.\n\nToday's paper reports that a number of the bodies were found with\nshoulder weapons next to them, as if they had been using them while\ndying -- which doesn't sound like the sort of action I would expect\nfrom a suicide.\n\nOur government lies, as it tries to cover over its incompetence\nand negligence.  Why should I believe the FBI's claims about\nanything else, when we can see that they are LYING?\n\nThis system of government is beyond reform.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"They could put on a Quebec-Montreal game.\n\nTalk a bout areivalry!\nopps rivalry..\n\nroland","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"::DATE:   Sun, 25 Apr 1993 10:13:30 GMT\n::FROM:   Fred Rice <darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au:\n::\n::\n::The Qur'an talks about those who take their lusts and worldly desires for \n::their \"god\".\n::\n::I think this probably encompasses most atheists.\n::\n:: Fred Rice\n:: darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au   \n:\n:As well as all the Muslim men screwing fourteen year old prostitutes in\n:Thailand.  Got a better quote?\n:","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nTo send a message to a CompuServe user via Internet E-Mail enter the\nmail mode and address your receiver as follows: 723123.313@compuserve.com\nThe number is the receiver's CompuServe I.D. number. If the users number\ncontains a comma or anything other than a period, change it to a period.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I don't know about where you are, but here in California false\nrepresentation\nof odometer readings is a criminal felony. If you can substantiate this,\nyou need to report that dealer to the local authorities. You should consult\nwith a lawyer to tell you what civil action you can take as well. Keep in\nmind that you will have to prove that the dealer was aware of the change in\nthe dashboard.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\tThe 850 is a V12 (5L, from the 750iL)  Is there a 835? or 840?\n\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nWIP is the REAL home of the Eagles.  Merril Reese and the Birds on\nFM radio...what a joke.\n\nA \"classic rock\" station at that!  Whats the sports world coming to?\n\n    \n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nI have successfully copied all of the uuencoded versions of these logos to my\nlocal directory, but when I tried the GIF files, it said \"Permission denied\".\nCould you explain why, and also how to execute the uuencoded files?\n\nThanks,\n\nKen\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nIf you're doing large-scale satellite servicing, being able to do it in\na pressurized hangar makes considerable sense.  The question is whether\nanyone is going to be doing large-scale satellite servicing in the near\nfuture, to the point of justifying development of such a thing.\n\n\nYou'd almost certainly use air.  Given that you have to pressurize with\n*something*, safety considerations strongly suggest making it breathable\n(even if the servicing crew is using oxygen masks for normal breathing,\nto avoid needing a ventilation system, it's nice if the hangar atmosphere\nis breathable in a pinch -- it makes mask functioning much less critical).","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nLook, I don't want to bore everybody here with the physics of woodstoves,\nbut they're not anything like your Caloric gas range.  It takes about\nthree hours for a woodstove to get hot enough to cook on, and afterwards \nyou can't just \"shut it off\" -- it will contain hot embers for over 24 \nhours even after you choke it COMPLETELY.\n\nSo it ain't exactly \"light up the stove and cook me a batch of them \npancakes, Aunt J...\"  If you use a woodstove for cooking, or even for\nheating your house at night, you will have it lit to SOME extent all \nthe time.  Trust me on this one, I speak from experience.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nI think that if someone often has immoral dreams, like lustful dreams, \nor dreams where you commit acts of violence, etc. etc. it may be a sign \nthat he has something sinful in his heart.  It may be the Holy Spirit's\nway of allowing the sinfulness that is in us to come to light so that\nwe can pray about it and have it removed.  Generally, if one has a \npure heart, and sets his mind on things that are holy, he will be holy\neven when he dreams.\n\nDreams also can be from the Lord.  Joseph and Nebucadnezzar are two examples\nof people in the Bible who received dreams from the Lord.  \n\nRegarding out of body experiences, this is something that we have to be\ncareful with.  What is called an OOBE can be spiritual in nature, especially\nif what one saw is the same as an experience witnessed by someone else.\nChristians should certainly avoid any occult activity that would generate\nan out of body experience.  Some things that might be called an OOBE\nmight actually be from the Lord.  Paul wrote of what might of been an OOBE.\nIn II Corinthians 12, he wrote of a spiritual experience of being caught\nup into the third heaven.  Is an OOBE truely an OOBE?  Does one really\nleave his body, or is he just seeing an image being shown to him by a\nspirit, be it a demon or the Holy Spirit?  I don't think it matters\nthat much.  Paul could not tell.  \n\nBe that as it may, we should be careful not to open ourselves up to Satan\nto experience OOBE's.  We should not meditate and pretend we are in a \nplace until our spirits apparently float there.  This is dangerous.  If\nGod wants to gice us what seems like an OOBE, then He can do that of His\nown sovereign will.  In the Bible, most often it seems that prophets are\njust taken up by God's sovereign will, and not because they are seeking\nan OOBE.  John was in the Spirit praying on the Lord's day when he was\ncaught up in the visions he received.  Ezekial was talking with some\nJewish leaders when he was caught up into the visions of God one\ntime.  If God wants to take one of us up into a vision, he can do it.\nPeople should be careful not to open themselves up to evil spirits\nfor the sake of a few thrills.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
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{"text":"\n\nYes, it is.  I have taken photos of it's minaret.\n\n\nDunno.\n\n\nThis doesn't sound like \"eye for an eye\" anymore.  Changed your tune?\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Orating with wild abandon, prange@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (Henry Prange) offers:\n%The grips on my GS are a wonderful thing in the winter and no problem\n%in the summer. Vibration? BMW's don't vibrate. Everyone knows that.\n\nI'd agree with Henry.  The grips are really nice to have in winter,\nand aren't noticably different from 'normal' grips in summer.  \n\nMy only complaint is that the 'low' setting might as well be 'off'.\nThis has been complained about by every reviewer, official and\nunofficial, that's ever talked about these grips.  The 'high' setting\nis often too high for use with lightweight summer gloves when things\njust get a bit nippy, but since 'low' doesn't produce a noticable\neffect, I end up turning the grips on and off to keep the temperature\nabout right.  This generally isn't a problem when wearing thicker\nwinter gloves.  When I asked the dealer if they could fix it, I\nreceived a consoling pat on the back, and their sincere apologies for\nthe poor design (actually, I was told they worked just like they were\nsuppose to).\n\nVibration?  What's that?  I ride a BMW twin.  You can barely tell if\nthe engine is fired up or not most of the time, smoother than silk\nsheets.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Hi Folks,\n\n              Last year America bought two  \"Hall Generators\" which are\nused as thrusters for space vehicles from former USSR,if I could recall\ncorrectly these devices were sent to JPL,Pasadena labs for testing and\nevaluation.\n     \n              I am just curious to know  how these devices work and what\nwhat principle is involved .what became of them.There was also some\ncontroversy that the Russian actually cheated,sold inferior devices and\nnot the one they use in there space vehicles.\n\nAny info will be appreciated...\n  ok   {                         Thank{ in advance...\nTamoor A Zaidi\nLockheed Commercial Aircraft Center\nNorton AFB,San Bernardino","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I have a very large (3x5 feet) file in Macintosh Canvas v2.something\nwhich I need to import into AutoCad 12 in the least disk-space intensive\nway possible.  (i.e. EPS is a big problem, since it took 1.3 MEG to encode\none page of the document)  The file is entirely lines and words.  I have\naccess to networked Macs & PC's, and ftp.  Can anyone suggest how this might\nbe accomplished?  Email replies, if you would, I don't read this group much.\nThanks in advance.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nUm, Kent... just what *have* you been doing with his wife?!?  ;-D\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I've found that I have to add the \"-8\" option for displaying JPEGs\nwith the new version.  For some reason, if I don't, it goes into\n24-bit mode and the resulting image is displayed with 216 colors \n(from a 6x6x6 array) instead of 256 and looks grainier.  Since I'm\non the ubiquitous 8-bit pseudo color display I would have thought it\ncould tell that.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I have an EISA machine and I just do not understand why most\nEISA video cards only match the performance of their ISA\ncounterparts. For instance, the EISA Orchid Pro Designer IIs-E is\nonly about as \"fast\" as the ISA Diamond SpeedStar Plus, which isn't\nwhat I would call \"fast.\"\n\nI don't understand why EISA video cards aren't, as a group, on the\nsame level of performance as Local Bus cards, given that EISA video\ncards have a 32 bit bus to move data around, instead of ISA's 8 bits.\n\nSince they are not, why would anyone (me included) pay a higher\ncost for a EISA video card when its performance is no better than\nand often worse that a much cheaper ISA video board, such as a\nDiamond SpeedStar 24X? From PC Magazine's (I think) recent report,\nI know that ATI makes a pretty fast EISA video card, but it's\naround $500, which is just about double what my wallet will allow\nme to spend. And, for $500, I could get a Diamond Viper and still\nhave $100 left over (of course, I'd have to get a Local Bus mother-\nboard too...)\n\nCan anyone shed some light on my confusion\/frustration?","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Greetings,\n\tWe have a network of ~20 Sun Workstations, running SunOS 4.1.1\nand Openwindows 3.  7 of these are Sun 3's that we have modified to\nrun Seth Robertson's xkernel image, effectively turning them into\nxterminals.  We use xdm (X11R4) to manage the displays.\n\n\tWhen we had 3 xkernel machines, things worked fine, but when\nwe installed 4 more last weekend, we appear to have found a weakness.\nWith 7 clients to 1 Sparc 2, the Sparc 2 window manager is eventually\ngetting munged.  \n\n\tLet me try to be precise:  The user sitting at the machine\nthat does all the actual processing for these xterminals is having\ncontrol of his keyboard and screen yanked away.  (When this was the\ndepartment chair, it was kind of cute).  We poked at xdm for a few\ndays and are satisfied that it is not at fault.  Our current theory is\nthat olwm (the Sun version) was not meant for running multiple copies\non one machine (which is what happens -- the console user runs olwm,\nand every xterminal logged in has olwm running on the xterminal\nserver). \n\n\tHas anyone had any prior experience with this sort of behavior?\n\tCan anyone shoot obvious holes in this theory?\n\tHow about obvious gimmes?\n\tAnd, of course, any ideas on how to solve it?\n\n\tAny ideas are greatly appreciated.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"When riding in a group, generally speaking, do most people mind when\nanother rider tags along?\n\nI had the distinct feeling I may not have been welcome when I tagged \nalong with a group last weekend.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Pioneer PD-M530 Multi-Play CD Player with 5-disc magazine\n\n-full-function remote\n-all the standard features including computer allocated program editing\n and time fade editing.\n\nIt is in excellent shape- 1 year old. Asking $175.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"[cont. Dr. James DeYoung; #3]\n\nR. Scroggs\n\n     Robin Scroggs has built upon the discussion of his predecessors and\nsuggested a new twist to the word.  Scroggs believes that arsenokoitai is a\n\"Hellenistic Jewish coinage, perhaps influenced by awareness of rabbinic\nterminology.\"  The term is derived from Lev 18\"22 & 20:13 where the LXX\njuxtaposes the two words arsenos (\"male\") and koiten (\"bed\"), and represents\nthe Hebrew miskab zabar (\"lying with a male\").   Yet he believes that Paul did\nnot originate the term, but borrowed it from \"circles of Hellenistic Jews\nacquainted with rabbinic discussions\" (180 n.14).  It was invented to avoid\n\"contact with the usual Greek terminology\" (108).  If this is true, Scroggs\nobserves, it explains why the word does not appear in Greco-Roman discussions\nof pederasty and why later patristic writers avoided it.  It was meaningless to\nnative-speaking Greeks (108).\n\n     Scroggs takes the second part as the active word and the first word as the\nobject of the second part, thus differing from Boswell's \"learned discussion\"\n(107).  Yet Scroggs understands the general meaning of \"one who lies with a\nmale\" to have a very narrow reference.  With the preceding malokoi (I Cor 6:9),\nwhich Scroggs interprets as \"the effeminate call-boy,\" arsenokoitai is the\nactive partner \"who keeps the malakos of the 'mistress' or who hires him on\noccasion to satisfy his sexual desires\" (108).  Hence arsenokoitai does not\nrefer to homosexuality in general, to female homosexuality, or to the generic\nmodel of pederasty.  It certainly cannot refer to the modern gay model, he\naffirms (109).\n     This is Scrogg's interpretation of the term in I Tim 1:10 also.  The\ncombination of pornoi (\"fornicators\"), arsenokoitai and andrapodistai (\"slave\ndealers\") refers to \"male prostitutes, males who lie [with them], and slave\ndealers [who procure them]\" (120).  It again refers to that  specific form of\npederasty \"which consisted of the enslaving of boys as youths for sexual\npurposes, and the use of these boys by adult males\" (121).  Even \"serious\nminded pagan authors\" condemned this form of pederasty.  He then uses these\ninstances of arsenokoitai in I Cor and I Tim to interpret the apparently\ngeneral condemnation of both female and male homosexuality in Rom 1. \nConsequently Paul \"Must have had, could only have had pederasty in mind\" (122).\nWe cannot know what Paul would have said about the \"contemporary model of\nadult\/adult mutuality in same sex relation ships\" (122).\n\n     In relating these terms to the context and to contemporary ethical\nconcerns, Scroggs emphasizes the point that the specific items in the list of\nvices in I Cor 6 have no deliberate, intended meaning in Paul.  The form and\nfunction of the catalogue of vices are traditional and stereotyped.  Any\nrelationship between an individual item in the list and the context was usually\nnonexistent.  He concludes that Paul \"does not care about any specific item in\nthe lists\" (104). \n\n     Both on the basis of the meaning of the terms and of the literary\nphenomenon of a \"catalogue of vices,\"  Scroggs argues that the Scriptures are\n\"irrelevant and provide no help in the heated debate today\" (129).  The \"model\nin today's Christian homosexual community is so different from the model\nattacked by the NT\" that \"Biblical judgments against homosexuality are not\nrelevant to today's debate.  They should no longer be used in denominational\ndiscussions about homosexuality, should in no way be a weapon to justify\nrefusal of ordination. . . \" (127).\n\n      REACTIONS TO THE NEW INTERPRETATIONS OF ARSENOKOITAI\n\nD. Wright\n\n     In more recent years the positions of Bailey, Boswell, and Scroggs have\ncome under closer scrutiny.   Perhaps the most critical evaluation of Boswell's\nview is that by David Wright.  In his thorough article, Wright points out\nseveral shortcomings of Boswell's treatment of arsenokoitai.   He faults\nBoswell for failing to cite, or citing inaccurately, all the references to Lev\n18:22 and 20:13 in the church fathers, such as Eusebius, the \"Apostolic\nConstitutions,\"  Clement of Alexandria, Tertullian and Origen (127-28). \nBoswell has not considered seriously enough the possibility that the term\nderives either its form or its meaning from the Leviticus passages (129).  This\nis significant, for if the term is so derived, it clearly refutes Boswell's\nclaim that the first half of the word (arseno-) denotes not the object but the\ngender of the second half (-koitai).  The LXX must mean \"a male who sleeps with\na male,\" making arseno- the object.\n\n     Wright also faults Boswell's claims regarding linguistic features of the\nterm, including suggested parallels (129).  Though Boswell claims that\ncompounds with arseno- employ it objectively and those with arreno- employ it\nas an adjective, Wright believes that the difference between the two is merely\none of dialectical diversity: \"No semantic import attaches to the difference\nbetween the two forms\" (131).  Wright believes that in most compounds in which\nthe second half is a verb or has a verbal force, the first half denotes its\nobject and where \"the second part is substantival, the first half denotes its\ngender\" (132). \n\n     It is with Boswell's treatment of the early church fathers that Wright\ntakes special issue, because the former has failed to cite all the sources. \nFor example, Aristides' Apology (c. AD 138) probably uses arrenomaneis,\nandrobaten, and arsenokoitias all with the same basic meaning of male\nhomosexuality (133), contrary to Boswell's discussion.  Boswell fails to cite\nHippolytus (Refut. Omn. Haer. 5:26:22-23) and improperly cites Eusebius and the\nSyriac writer Bardensanes.  The latter uses Syriac terms that are identical to\nthe Syriac of I Cor 6:9 and I Tim 1:10 (133-34). \n\n     Next Wright shows how the early church fathers use arsenokoitai in\nparallel with paidophthoria referring to male homosexuality with teenagers, the\ndominant form of male homosexuality among the Greeks (134).  Sometimes this\nparallelism occurs in the threefold listings of moicheia (\"adultery\"), porneia\n(\"fornication\"), and paidophthoria, with arsenokoitai replacing paidophthoris\n(136).  Clement of Alexandria in Protr. 10:108:5 cites the second table of the\nTen Commandments as \"You shall not kill, ou moicheuseis (\"you shall not commit\nadultery\"), ou paidophthoreseis (\"you shall not practice homosexuality with\nboys\"), you shall not steal. . .\" (150 n. 43).\n\n     Another occurrence of arsenokoitein (\"commit homosexuality\") exists in the\nSibylline Oracles 2:71-73.  It may be, Wright observes, that the word was\ncoined by a Jewish pre-Christian writer in a Hellenistic setting represented by\nOr.Sib., book 2 (137-38).\n\n     Wright also discusses uses of arsenokoitai in Rhetorius (6th c.) who drew\nupon the first century AD writer Teucer, in Macarius (4th-5th c.), and in John\nthe Faster (d. 595) (139-40).  The last in particular bears the idea of\nhomosexual intercourse, contrary to Boswell.\n\n     Wright next replies to Boswell's contention that the term would not be\nabsent \"from so much literature about homosexuality if that is what it denoted\n(140-41).  Wright points out that it should not be expected in writers prior to\nthe first century AD since it did not exist before then, that the Greeks used\ndozens of words and phrases to refer to homosexuality, that some sources (e.g.\nDidache) show no acquaintance with Paul's letters or deliberately avoid citing\nScripture, and that Boswell neglects citing several church fathers (140-41). \n\n     Boswell's treatment of Chrysostom in particular draws Wright's attention\n(141-44).  Boswell conspicuously misrepresents the witness of Chrysostom,\nomitting references and asserting what is patently untrue.  Chrysostom gives a\nlong uncompromising and clear indictment of homosexuality in his homily on Rom\n1:26.  Boswell has exaggerated Chrysostom's infrequent use of the term.  Wright\nobserves that Boswell has \"signally failed to demonstrate any us of\narsenokoites etc. in which it patently does not denote male homosexual\nactivity\" (144).  It is infrequent because of its relatively technical nature\nand the availability of such a term as paidophthoria that more clearly\nspecified the prevailing form of male homosexuality in the Greco-Roman world. \n\n     Wright also surveys the Latin, Syriac, and Coptic translations of I Tim\nand I Cor.  All three render arsenokoitai with words that reflect the meaning\n\"homosexual\" i.e., they understand arseno- as the object of the second half of\nthe word (144-45).  None of these primary versions supports Boswell's limited\nconclusion based on them.\n\n     Wright concludes his discussion with a few observations about the\ncatalogues of vices as a literary form.  He believes that such lists developed\nin late Judaism as Hellenistic Jews wrote in clear condemnation of\nhomosexuality in the Greek world.  This paralleled the increased concern on the\npart of moral philosophers over homosexual indulgence.  The term came into\nbeing under the influence of the LXX (145) so that writers spoke \"generally of\nmale activity with males rather than specifically categorized male sexual\nengagement with paides\" (146).  If arsenokoitai and paidophthoria were\ninterchangeable, it is because the former encompassed the latter (146).\n\n     In summary, Wright seeks to show that arsenokoitai is a broad term meaning\nhomosexuality and arises with Judaism.   The views of Boswell, Scroggs, and\nothers who limit the term to \"active male prostitutes\" or pederasty are without\nsignificant support from linguistic and historical studies.  ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nNot to mention Computer Associates.  I'll have to be careful to stop telling\npeople I'm a Clipper programmer, they might lynch me... :-)\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\t   Are there any widgets, function \n\t   librarys for drawing networks, \n\t   graphs etc ? (Not tree views) \n\t   Freeware, shareware, comercial...\n\t   Like this, for instance:\n\n\t   [ pretty picture deleted ]\n\n\t   * Just by giving the associations \n\t     between the nodes. Automatic\n\t     layout generation.\n\n\t   * It would be nice if any node \n\t     symbols could be used. Maybe \n\t     even to insert widgets as nodes.\n\n\t   * Using different line styles etc.\n\t     for describing associations.\n\nCheck out the XmGraph library in the following location:\n\n\tiworks.ecn.uiowa.edu:\/comp.hp\/GUI_classic\/XmGraph.tar.Z.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nThe only way to change ESPN's thinking, if it is even possible, is to complain\nto them directly.  Anyone know there telephone # in Bristol, Ct?  \n\nI do find it hard to believe that ESPN doesn't think viewers will simply\nchange the channel from a boring game....I know I did.  And then, when\nthey didn't show the NYI-Wash overtime(s), I was livid!  If I wanted\nto watch baseball, I could have turned on the Phillies-Padres extra\ninning game....instead, I went to bed angry......I boycotted ESPN's\nmorning Sportscenter today, I was still so incensed.\n\nMy wife says I shouldn't go to bed angry, but last nite.........GRRRRRRR!\n\n ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nMuslims helping the Nazis???  Where on earth do you come up with such\naccuusation??  Do you have proofs??  If not, you should publically apologize\nfor such a statement.  Last time I heard, the nazis prided themselves in\nneeding no body to carry their politics and ideologies.  And if your statment\nwere true, don't you think Israel would of used it to point to what a Muslim\nneighbor (PALESTINE) could do to them if they allowed it to be?  The jewish\nlobby and power is very strong, and if what you said is true, we would of\nheard it from them before you could come up with it.\nAnd you dare say that you are taking no sides!!","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I want to run SPICE on my XT so I can learn more about amplifiers\nand oscilators. Is there a version of this that will run on my XT\nwith no math co-processer, if so where can I get it? Thanks for any\nand all help!\n\nJeff","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nWhile I can see why they want to cut down on the time spent walking around,\nGant wasn't ordered back in the box \"sooner\", he was ordered back immediately.\nAs soon as he stepped out, Hirschbeck told him to get back in the box.\nNow, Gant doesn't take a lot of walks between pitches.  The only reason\nhe did then because he was *very* bothered by the call.  I expect his\nconcentration wasn't there yet, and in a crucial situation I imagine it's\nbest to be as calm as possible.  Contributing factors would be Gant's\nbad day at the plate, bad year at the plate, and the Braves long scoring\ndrought.\n\nNow, it's pretty stupid to go ahead and talk the walk when the umpire is\ntelling you to get in there.  You know the umpire is going to do something\n(call for a strike, throw you out, etc.).  Gant was wrong.\n\nBut Hirschbeck was more wrong, in my biased view.  Aside from the major chip\nhe seemed to have on his shoulder, what was the problem.  Gant had a reason\nto want some time (disputed strike call).  Gant hadn't been wasting time all\ngame.  The game had been cruising along, and was just over two hours old.\nThe score was 1-0, with 2 outs in the ninth and a runner in scoring position.\nIs there *any* reason Hirschbeck couldn't, and shouldn't, cut Gant a little\nslack?  For no discernible constructive reason, Hirschbeck disrupted the\ngame, caused a five minute delay, and materially hurt the batter in a key\nsituation.  Did he have a date to get to?\n\nAnd I still wonder why Terry was tossed earlier in the game.\n-- \nDale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nIf it encouraged the runner to stretch his lead, it would probably\nalso result ina greater number of pickoffs. I think it would be a\nworkable rule, but it would probably be best to experiment in another\nleague before trying it in the bigs.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nAh well, another Brian Sutter team is ground into the dirt with intensity\nduring the regular season and then is burned out by playoff time.\nYah Fuhr has been awesome so far, but really you'd think Sutter would have\nlearned his lesson about pushing his team too far during the regular season.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I'm looking for algorithms or articles on virtual sound. What i want to do is\nthe following;\n\nFrom a fast source, eg. a CDROM, several sound sources are read, each having\nit's own defined position and other attributes, eg. direction etc.  Given the\nlisteners position and direction, the sum of sound played back in each of the\nlisteners earphones will be a function of this position and direction.  This\nmeans that some simulation of the ears coloring of sound relative to it's\nincoming direction have to be done for each sound source.  (I think this is\npossible to do with a lookup table of impulse responses for several angles\nrelative to each ear, and interpolate an impulse function from this for a given\nangle.  This impulse function could then be convoluted with the sound from the\nsource.  This impulse function must be changed every time some sound source\nchanges position or the listener changes orientation.)  Additionally some\nreflection, diffusion and absorbtion due to the environment wich is defined\ncould be simulated, but this requires some sort of sound propagandation\nsimulation, kinda like some radiosity algorithm.  \n\nHave someone done this and\/or written articles on implementing such a system? \n\nPlease post or mail any answers or comments.\n\n-- \nTorgeir Veimo\n\nStudying at the University of Bergen\n\n\"...I'm gona wave my freak flag high!\" (Jimi Hendrix)","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I am in the market to buy a used car. I am particularly\ninterested in the Pontiac Bonneville. My budget is between 7-\n8 thousand. Would I be able to afford an 88 or 89. What\nengines were available at this time. I know they didn't\nredesign until the 1992 model year. How is the reliability of\npast models. I would appreciate any advice or information.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"In response to Jerry Lotto's post about not putting your helmet on your\nmirror or else risk damaging the padding from the inside.\n\nOne of the major causes of mirror breakage is impact with the pavement.\nLaws mandating that all mirrors be protected by helmets might be in order.\nBut seriously...\n\nOne place to put a helmet is on a, preferably clean, footpeg, hanging from\nthe chin-guard, away from any hot pipes.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\tAgain, tell us about it Ken!\n\n-=- Andy -=-\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Im looking to but a Sharp EL5200 Scientific calculator.\n\nThe model is discontinued, but if you know of any dealer which may have\nthem around, please reply.\n\nJason\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Apollo (now HP) have a graphics board that does 80-bit graphics.  When I \nheard that, I jumped.  The answer isn't that it can do 100 trillion-trillion-\ntrillion colors.  It actually does 10 planes of 8-bits (or 5 planes of 16\nbits, etc.)  for very fast graphics.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nI certainly agree with the last paragraph.  Also, Jesus;s statements on\nhell can be treated as totally symbolic, allegorical or as parables, as\nwas much of his other teaching.  There's more than enough hell here on earth\nthat we are freed from by following Jesus that the rest just doesn't mattter\nto me.  And the fact that we can be free of the hell here is the best gift\nGod offers.  Eternal life begins for us now and we do not wait to start\npartaking of the divine nature and journeying on the path to deification.\n\nLarry Overacker (llo@shell.com)\n-- ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"# \n# >This issue has been going on for a while and your presentation here of\n# >just one reference probably won't resolve this issue to those that\n# >oppose your insistence that mosques *were* destroyed. Even in your\n# >location of this one reference, you spend most of your quote dealing\n# >with an incidence that, while abhorrant, has nothing to do with the \n# >issue at hand here. Then, at the end of the quote, there is an almost\n# >off-hand comment that \"two mosques\" were destroyed.\n# >\n# >To support a claim of this nature, what other authors support this\n# >incident? If identifiable mosques were destroyed they are certainly\n# >identifiable, they have names and addresses (steet location). The\n# >comment by one reporter *does* make us wonder if \"this happened\" but\n# >by no means \"proves it.\n# \n# There is no doubt that Israeli authorities ordered the destruction of\n# mosques in the vicinity of the Wailing Wall. That does not mean,\n# however, that once can generalize from this to any other points.  The\n# entire plaza, mosques and all, was cleared to make it possible for Jews\n# to have a place to worship in the place that was holiest to many of\n# them, and which had been denied to them for millenia.\n# \n# On the other hand, throughout the rest of Jerusalem and Israel, to the\n# best of my knowledge, Israeli authorities have scrupulously avoided\n# damage to any Islamic religious sites. This contrasts with the policies\n# of previous regimes which destroyed Jewish synagogues out of hate and\n# bigotry.\n\n  Or, for that matter, with the USA.  Around here, nobody reroutes\n  freeways to avoid churches, synagogues, and so forth.  They just\n  get condemned, paid off, and the road goes through.  The same is\n  standard policy for any number of other public projects: schools\n  and sports arenas being only two examples.\n\n  Anticipating the objection that the cases aren't comparable: how\n  not?  The Wall has to count as the #1 tourist attraction in that\n  part of the world; making room for the traffic would be a twenty\n  second decision for any city council I ever heard of.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"SOMEONE PLEASE BUY THESE BOOKS!!!!!  I AM NOT ASKING MUCH!!!!!!\n\nJUST MAKE ME AN OFFER AND I WILL PROBABLY TAKE IT!!!!!\n\n\n* Writing good software in Fortran, Graham Smith. \n\n* The Holt Handbook by Kirszner & Mandell (copyright 1986) 720+ page writing guide. \n\n* General Chemistry Principles & Modern Applications, R. Petrucci, fourth\n  edition.  Big Book! Very good condition!\n\n* Solutions manual for Chemistry book.  Paperback.\n\n* Study guide for Chemistry book.  Paperback.\n\n\nSend me your offers via email at 02106@chopin.udel.edu\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I'm selling a bunch of my older 12\" records off.  They are\nsitting around collecting dust and I never use them.  I have used each\nof these records, once, maybe twice if I didn't record the song I\nwanted correctly the first time.  These records are in PERFECT\ncondition.  Please email me with the records you would want and what\nyou think a fair price is.  I will probably give deals, the more\nrecords you buy.  Kinda capatalist isn't it.  Well give me a yell at \npagorm@iastate.edu with any comments.  \n\t\t\t\t\t\tSee ya \n\t\t\t\t\t\tPaul\n\tI have recieved a few questions as to what 12\" are.  I guess I\nshould elaborate.  (???!!!! am I that old?)  They are just\nmaxi-singles on wax.  If I am correct most beat mixers still use this\nform of record.  This is probably the kind of person interested in\nthis colllect or parts of it. Any questions call (515) 294-3737.\nThanks and see ya.\t\nArtist\t\t\tSong","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Do the Isles have another defenseman to insert into the line-up besides\nPilon??? Once again, last night's STUPID penalty put the Isles in a hole for the\nremainder of regulation and 2 minutes into overtime!!! Even though the Isles\nnearly survived Pilon's blunder in regulation, it was the most inopportune time\nfor a 5-minute major penalty. Instead of confronting Cote as he came across the\nblueline, Pilon backed up and swiped at Cote's nose with his stick. Al Arbour\ncan't be serious to think Pilon is the guy to have out there with the game on\nthe line??? I heard Scott LaChance is out till later in the series, but there\nmust be someone else!!! Bring back the BAMMER, Dave Langevin!!!!\n\n*******************************LETS GO ISLANDERS********************************\n\nJohn Scialdone\nSCIALDONE@NSSDCA.GSFC.NASA.GOV","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":": But waiiiiiit, isn't Nissan officially registering the car as far as\n: government paperwork goes, Nissan Stanza Altima, to avoid costly and\n: lengthy paperwork? I read this on the net a while ago, and someone\n: actually may have said there's a little Stanza logo on the Altima\n: somewhere.\n\nI just bought an Altima (and like it very much) and yes there is a\nlittle Stanza logo ever so discretely placed on the trunk. The Altima is\nemblazoned in big silver letters, but the itsy-bitsy Stanza is shunted\nto the far left of the trunk lid. You can only see it if you get up\nclose to the car and know where to look. It is very inconspicuous.\n\nIn fact my first clue that this was a Stanza was that the owners manual\ncalled the car a Nissan Stanza Altima.\n\nAnybody know *why* Nissan did it this way?","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Seen from a typographically point of view, ATM using PostScript fonts\nis better than TrueType; the hinting mechanism incorporated in PS is\ngorgeous.\nMultilingual users may see the limit of possible different characters in\na PS font as problematically; they may have better use of the Unicode\nfeatures of TT fonts (in Windows NT).\n\nI've seen *lots* of really beautiful and printable-in-small-size PS fonts;\nI haven't seen those as TT fonts. Most of them are rendering quite\ninaccurate (in small sizes, esp. as screen fonts).\nSimply compare TimesNewRoman as a PS font with the TT font; the first\nlooks better.\n\nI am hoping that there will be ATM\/NT ! ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"The Andrew Consortium\n          of the School of Computer Science at Carnegie Mellon \n                         is pleased to announce\n\n                          AUIS 5.1.1 for AIX3.2\n                                 4\/26\/93\n\nThe Andrew User Interface System version 5.1 (our CDrom version) was\ndeveloped for AIX  version 3.1 on the IBM RS\/6000 and many other\nplatforms.  To accomodate AIX version 3.2, we have created a patch to\nthe sources.  The patch and accompanying instructions for its\napplication can be retrieved at no charge via anonymous-ftp from the\ninternet host emsworth.andrew.cmu.edu (128.2.45.40) in the directory\n.\/aixpatch.  For those without internet access, a 3.5\" diskette can be\nordered for $10 by sending, or faxing, a purchase order to the address\nbelow. \n\nThe base 5.1 system can be ordered from us as a CDrom or ftp'ed from the\nsame host.\n\nNote that this patch adds no additional functionality but simply allows\nAUIS to compile under AIX3.2.\n\n-----------\n\nThe Andrew User Interface System (AUIS) is a comprehensive environment\non top of X11 windows in which you can create, use, and mail multi-media\napplications and documents.   A major advantage of AUIS is the\ncapability to recursively embed objects.  Thus, one can edit text that\nnot only contains multiple fonts, indentation, and other typography, but\nalso  contains embedded raster images, spreadsheets, drawing editors,\nequations, simple animations, and so on. These embedded objects can\nthemselves contain other objects, including text.\n\nAUIS has three components:\n\n    The Andrew User Environment is an integrated and extensible set\n    of applications beginning with the ez text editor, a help\n    system, a system monitoring tool, an editor-based shell\n    interface, and other editors corresponding to the various\n    available types of objects. \n\n    The Andrew Toolkit (ATK) is a portable, object-oriented\n    user-interface toolkit that provides the architecture wherein\n    objects can be embedded in one-another.  With the toolkit,\n    programmers can create new objects that can be embedded as\n    easily as those that come with the system. \n\n    The Andrew Message System (AMS) provides a multi-media interface\n    to mail and bulletin-boards.  AMS supports several mail\n    management strategies and implements many advanced  features\n    including authentication, return receipts, automatic sorting of\n    mail, vote collection and tabulation, enclosures, audit trails\n    of related messages, and subscription management. It also\n    provides a variety of interfaces that support ttys and\n    low-function personal computers in addition to high-function\n    workstations. \n\nThe current public release of Andrew, Version 5.1,  includes support for\nthe new Internet MIME (Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions) standards\nfor multipart, multimedia mail.  A newer release, 5.2, for members of\nthe Andrew Consortium has numerous additional features including new\neditors for drawings, images, fonts, and user preferences.\n\n\nRemote Andrew Demo Service\n\nYou can try out Andrew from your own work station via the Remote Andrew\nDemo Service.  You need a host machine on the Internet running the X11\nwindow system.  You'll be able to compose multimedia documents, navigate\nthrough the interactive Andrew Tour, and use the Andrew Message System\nto browse through a few of CMU's four thousand bulletin boards and\nnewsgroups.\n\nTo get started with the Remote Andrew Demo service, simply run the\nfollowing command on your machine:\n\n\tfinger help@atk.itc.cmu.edu\n\nThe service will give you further instructions.   \n\n\nMore information about Andrew is available from:\n\n    Information Requests\n    Andrew Consortium\n    Carnegie Mellon University\n    Smith Hall 106\n    5000 Forbes Avenue\n    Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3890\n    USA\n    phone: +1-412-268-6710\n    fax: +1-412-682-6938\n    info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I have just upgraded from a Trident TVGA9000 to an ATI Graphics Ultra (the\nold mach8 chip).  I am quite pleased with the performance so far, but have\none problem.  When using windows in 800x600, I have noticed that the \ntile bars and scroll bars are significantly larger than they were when I\nwas using the Trident card.  Is there a setting in my .ini files that I can\nchange to make these smaller ?  I could not find the FAQ for this list...\n\n\t\t--Mike","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Does anyone know whether the _Acta Sanctorum_, the huge multi-volume collection\nof Roman Catholic hagiography produced by the Bollandists, has ever been\ntranslated into English?  I'm working on the _Vita S. Dympnae_ and would love\nto be able to check my own translation against somebody else's.  \n\nEmail replies preferred, unless this query turns out to be of general interest.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Invitation to the 8th SCIA\n\nThe 8th Scandinavian Conference on Image Analysis will be\narranged by the Norwegian Society for Image Processing and\nPattern Recognition (NOBIM) and sponsored by the International\nAssociation for Pattern Recognition (IAPR). The conference\nwill be held in Tromsoe from 25th-28th May 1993. Tromsoe,\nlocated at latitude 69 degrees N, is Northern Norway's centre\nfor administration and education.\n\nAbout the Programme\nThe scientific programme runs over four days and includes\n6 invited speakers, 29 sessions in three parallel tracks\nwith 127 contributed papers and 4 poster sessions with 44\ncontributions. The conference covers the following topics:\n  - Image Processing and Analysis\n  - Pattern Recognition\n  - Computer Vision\n  - Parallel Algorithms and Architectures\n  - Neural Nets\n  - Matching Methods\n  - Image Compression\n  - Remote Sensing\n  - Medical and Biological Applications\n  - Industrial Applications\n\nConference Language\nThe official language of the conference is English.\n\nInvited Talks and Speakers\n\nSegmentation of Range Images Via Data\nFusion and Morphological Watersheds.\nProfessor Ralph Gonzalez\nUniversity of Tennessee, Knoxville\n\nObject Recognition Using Range Images.\nProfessor Anil K. Jain\nMichigan State University\n\nExperiments in Mobile Robot Navigation and Range Imaging.\nDr. Judd Jones\nOak Ridge National Laboratory\n\nImage Compression.\nProfessor Tor Ramstad\nUniversity of Trondheim\n\nCombining Evidence in Dictionary\nBased Probabilistic Relaxation.\nProfessor J. Kittler\nUniversity of Surrey\n\nMatching Methods.\nProfessor A. Sanfeliu\nPolytechnic University of Catalonia\n\nWorkshop\nIn connection with the conference, a workshop on contextual\nmethods in pattern recognition will be arranged on monday\n24th by IAPR TC1. For further information concerning the\nworkshop contact\nTorfinn Taxt, Chairman TC1,\nUniv. of Bergen,\nN-5000 Bergen,\nNorway.\nPhone: +47 5 20 63 34\nFax: +47 5 20 63 60\nE-mail: Torfinn.Taxt@cc.uib.no\n\nRegistration Information\nThe registration fee is 4000 NOK. The fee covers proceedings, entrance\nto all oral and poster sessions, exhibition, lunches and coffee\nbreaks, get-together party, reception and banquet. Fees for\naccompanying persons are presented in the registration form.\nAll payments must be made payable in Norwegian Kroner (NOK)\nby SWIFT to \"XIANNOKKTRM\" or Bank Giro Service at Bank Account:\n6420 05 13353, \"SAS Conference FORUT\", Christiania Bank og\nKreditkasse (Private cheques will not be accepted.) or by the\nfollowing credit cards: VISA,  Mastercard, Eurocard, Diners,\nAccess, American Express. \nPlease note: For payment with SWIFT and Bank Giro Service made\n             from abroad, please add banking fee of NOK 60,-.\nPlease remember to state 8SCIA and your name on all money\ntransfers!\n\nRegistration and Information\nThe Conference Secretariat will be available all four days of\nthe conference for registration and information\nMay 24th, 1600:2000, in the SAS Hotel.\nMay 25th-28th,       at the University.\n\nExhibition\nAn exhibition of relevant literature will be arranged.\nPublishers are invited to exhibit their products. A visit\nto local companies and institutions involved in the field\n(mostly remote sensing) will be arranged.\n\nAccommodation\nReservation for hotel accommodation can be made on the\nregistration form. The 8SCIA Conference Secretariat at\nSAS Luftreisebyraa, att. Bodil Lauritsen, will provide\nhotel accommodation for the participants.\n\nSocial Events\nMonday, May 24th:\nGet-together party. (included in the conference fee for\ndelegates, NOK 150,- for accompanying persons)\n\nTuesday, May 25th\nFishing trip. The tour will last for 5-6 hours and hopefully\nthe midnight sun will visit us. On board the boat there will\nbe music, food and drink by choice. We bring fishing rods and\nit will be possible to have our own fish prepared on board.\n(NOK 400,-)\nSpouse programme: Visit by cable car to Storsteinen 420 meters\nabove sea level, visit to the Arctic Cathedral, and visit to\nTromsoe Museum. (NOK 205,-) \n\nWednesday, May 26th\nDue to the cancellation of the Svalbard flight we will arrange\na visit to the \"Beerhall\". (NOK 350,- including beer and food.)\nSpouse programme: Visit to a fishfarm in the surroundings of\nTromsoe. (NOK 170,-)\n\nThursday, May 27th\nBanquet. (Included in the conference fee for delegates,\naccompanying persons NOK 500,- )\nSpouse programme: Visit to the Northern Lights Planetarium and\nthe Polar Museum. (NOK 180,-)\nThe spouse programs need a minimum of 15 participants to be\narranged.\n\nPost conference tours with visit to Lyngen or Finnmark and\nNorh Cape will also be arranged. For more information about\nthe social program and the post conference tours see the\nregistration form and information included with the\nregistration form.\n\nWeather and Dress\nThe weather in Tromsoe in late May can be everything from\n24 hour sunshine with a maximum temperature of 20 degrees Celsius\nto snowstorms with temperatures below freezing. It is\ntherefore recommended to bring some warmer clothes.\n\nLocal Information\nThe population is approximately 50 000. In Tromsoe you can take\npart in many activities from mountaineering in the midnight\nsun to late night fun in international restaurants and bars.\nAn afternoon local beer in the Beerhall of the world's\nnorthernmost brewery is also recommended.\n\nThe 8th Scandinavian Conference on Image Analysis (8SCIA) will\nbe held at the university campus at the world's northernmost\nuniversity. There will be conference buses going to the campus\nfrom within walking distances of all the hotels. More detailed\ninformation about the locations and transport will be available\nat the conference hotels.\n\nTravel Information\nTromsoe Airport at Langnes is only 7-8 minutes drive from the\ncentre of Tromsoe. The travelling distance from Oslo is 1 hr\n40 minutes. SAS Conference Support Tromsoe offers airticket\nservices for the conference. In addition to all standard terms\nfull and reduced fare tickets from Europe and overseas,\n(reduced fares require that you stay in Scandinavia the night\nbetween Saturday and Sunday), we can offer additional conference\nfares for SAS flights from SAS destinations within Scandinavia,\nand reduced fares on Norwegian domestic flights. If you want to\nmake use of this service please contact Bodil Lauritsen at the\nConference Secretariat.\n\nConference Secretariat\n   SAS Luftreisebyraa Tromsoe\n   Att.: Bodil Lauritsen\n   P. O Box 437\n   N-9001 Tromsoe\n   Norway\n   Phone: +47 83 10 700\n   Fax: +47 83 10 701\n\nNote that reduced airticket fares can not be obtained on flights to \nScandinavia if you don't stay the night between Saturday and Sunday \n(in front of or after the conference). On the other hand you don't have\nto stay that night in Tromso to obtain reduced fares within Scandinavia\n(SAS flights).\n\n<------------------------------- cut here ------------------------------>\n\n                           REGISTRATION FORM\n          The 8'th Scandinavian Conference on Image Analysis\n                Tromso, Norway, May 25th-28th 1993\n\nPlease use block letters or type, and fill in one form for each parti-\ncipant. Completed registration form for accompanying person is to be\nattached to the registration form of the delegate.\n                                                              Mr  <>\n                                                              Mrs <>\n\nFirst name and surname:.............................................\n\nCompany\/Institution:................................................\n\nTitle:..................\n\nMailing address:...................................................\n\nPostal code\/Country:...............................................\n\nTelephone:....................Telefax:.............................\n\nDelegate: <>  Accompanying person: <>  (please tick for right category)\n     \nWorkshop on contextual methods in pattern recognition,\n                                     Monday, May 24th: <>\n\nConference fee, delegates:                          NOK 4000,-  ->\n\nSocial events  (please tick for participating!)\n<> Get-together Party, Monday 24th\n   (Included in the conference fee for delegates)\n   Accompanying person                              NOK  150,-  -> \n<> Spouse Programme, Tuesday, May 25th  *           NOK  205,-  ->\n<> Spouse Programme, Wednesday, May 26th  *         NOK  170,-  ->\n<> Spouse Programme, Thursday, May 27th  *          NOK  180,-  ->\n<> Boat-trip, Tuesday, May 25th                     NOK  400,-  ->\n<> Banquet, Thursday, May 27th \n   (Included in the conference fee for delegates)\n   Accompanying person                              NOK  500,-  ->\n<> Visit to the Beerhall, Wednesday, May 26th *     NOK  350,-  ->\n<> Post Conference Tour, Lyngen *                   NOK  895,-  ->\n<> Post Conference Tour, Finnmark\/North Cape *      NOK 4250,-  ->\n(* we need a minimum number of participants to \n   accomplish these tours)\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nTotal amount for my participation:                          NOK ____________\n\nPAYMENT:\nPayment can be made by: SWIFT to \"XIANNOKKTRM\" or \nBank Giro Service at Bank Account: 6420 05 13353, \"SAS Conference FORUT\",\nChristiania Bank og Kreditkasse, Gronnegt. 80, N-9000 Tromso, Norway.\n(Private cheques will not be accepted.) or by credit card:\n VISA <>  Mastercard <> Eurocard <>  Diners <> Access <> American Express <>\n\nAccount Number:___________________________ Expiration Date:________________\n\nSignature:____________________________________________\n\nPlease note: For payment with SWIFT and Bank Giro Service made from abroad,\n             please add banking fee of NOK 60,-.\nPlease remember to state 8SCIA and your name on all money transfers!\n\nACCOMODATION:\n  (Payment to be made upon arrival)\n(Weekend=  Friday-Sunday). \nDeadline for cancellation of the hotel room: 24 hours before arrival.\n\nIf you would like us to book your accomodation in Tromso, please fill in:\n\nDate of arrival:____________________  Date of departure:____________________\nSAS Royal Hotel      <> Single a 1190,-     <> Double a 1390,-\n                         (weekend 750,-)        (weekend 900,-)\nGrand Nordic Hotel   <> Single a 1015,-     <> Double a 1175,-\n                         (weekend 760,-)        (weekend 880,-)\nWith Home Hotel      <> Single a  975,-     <> Double a 1085,-\nSAGA Hotel           <> Single a  870,-     <> Double a 1045,-\nPolar Hotel          <> Single a  680,-     <> Double a  800,-\n                         (weekend 450,-)        (weekend 550,-)\nTromso Hotel         <> Single a  680,-     <> Double a  800,-\n                         (weekend 450,-)        (weekend 550,-)\nSkipperhuset Pension <> Single a  330,-     <> Double a  410,-\n                                            <> Triple a  480,-\nHotel Nord           <> Single a  300,-     <> Double a  400,-\n                                            <> Triple a  500,-\nPrivate Accomodation <> Single a  150,-     <> Double a  200,-\n\nI will arrange accomodation on my own: <>\nIf my first choice is not available, I wish to stay at:_____________________\n\nAirtickets: SAS Conference Support Tromso offers airticket services for the\nconference. In addition to all standard terms full and reduced fare tickets\nfrom Europe and overseas, (reduced fares require that you stay in Scandinavia\nthe night between Saturday and Sunday), we can offer additional conference\nfares for SAS flights from SAS destinations within Scandinavia, and reduced\nfares on norwegian domestic flights. If you want to make use of this service\nplease fill in the following:\n\nPoint of departure and return:______________________________________________\n\nDate of departure:___________________  Date of return: _____________________\nI will arrange airtickets on my own: <> (Please tick!)\n\n              For further information, please contact:\n                Kjell Arild Hogda, 8SCIA Local Chair,\n       FORUT Information technology Ltd, N-9005 Tromso, Norway.\n           Telephone: +47 83 58622. Telefax: +47 83 82420\n                   e-mail: scia@conan.uit.no\n\n             Please forward this registration form to:\n          SAS Luftreisebyra Tromso, Att: Bodil Lauritsen\n               P.O. Box 437, N-9001 Tromso, Norway,\n          Telephone: +47 83 10700. Telefax: +47 83 10701\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"released\n\nhere we go again...\nnow these are just rumors.. so dont quote me.\n\nNew Integra supposedly wedge shaped again.  175 hp and all-wheel drive\nin top models.  Then a variant called the zx-r comes later. (roadster?).\n\ni think it gets unveiled at end of summer.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"My Kawasaki KZ 750 L4 has 2-3 millimetres of play on the gearchange\npedal axle, in other words, I can move the axle sideways & up-and-down\nfor few millimetres to each direction. This doesn't bother me when\nriding, but I guess fixing it wouldn't hurt. Last summer I took the\nbike to a shop to have the valves adjusted, and the mechanic mentioned\nthat it should be an easy job. All I would have to do is to remove the\nfront sprocket cover and replace a bushing or a seal that I would find\nthere. Well, upon a closer inspection I discovered that the gearchange\naxle doesn't even run through the sprocket cover. It seems that, in\naddition to removing the cover, I would have at least to remove the\nsprocket and then the cover that is behind the sprocket.\n\nQuestion : Would removing this small cover from the left side of the\nengine enable me to lay my hands on that bushing\/seal (Don't know the\nexact term in english, sorry) ?\n\nQuestion : Has anybody done this disassembly job for this or some\nother purpose ? Does the oil, for example, stay inside the engine ?\n\nThanks !","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\nI have a problem with X11R5 on a Sun386i an I hope that someone can help\nme with it.\nI've built X from the MIT sources after applying all patches I have got (I\nthink 23). Building was easy. After installing everything I started X but\nnothing happened but the screen and the keyboard freezed, the machine seemed\nto hang. I loged in from another machine an found the Sun386i running well.\n'ps' told me that there's a X-server and a xterm running. And with some \nexperimenting with the mouse and repeatedly pressing ^D I blindly hit the\nxterm, endet the session and got my prompt back.\nI guess it's a device problem but I did not find the correct device yet.\nI've got a Sun386i with a b\/w framebuffer (ACE-6 0688 94V-0, Rev 53)\nSunOS 4.0.2 and ROM 4.4.\nPlease help me. I'm able to run clients on the Sun and send the output to\nother machines but that's not what I did it for.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nand guess which game ESPN is showing in my area on Thursday - yep,\nPens-Devils.  There are so many other interesting series, who cares\nabout Mario???","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"As per various threads on science and creationism, I've started dabbling into a\nbook called Christianity and the Nature of Science by JP Moreland.  A question\nthat I had come from one of his comments.  He stated that God is not \nnecessarily a religious term, but could be used as other scientific terms that\ngive explanation for events or theories, without being a proven scientific \nfact.  I think I got his point -- I can quote the section if I'm being vague. \nThe examples he gave were quarks and continental plates.  Are there \nexplanations of science or parts of theories that are not measurable in and of\nthemselves, or can everything be quantified, measured, tested, etc.?  \n\nMAC\n--\n****************************************************************\n                                                    Michael A. Cobb\n \"...and I won't raise taxes on the middle     University of Illinois\n    class to pay for my programs.\"                 Champaign-Urbana\n          -Bill Clinton 3rd Debate             cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nThey bein' themfolk who tend to compose fair piece of the population;\nbein the ones that regard bikers as a loud, irresponsible, irreverent,\nreprobate rabble.  \nSure you didn't rape and pillage-- It's a relief to know that you were\nsuch gentlemen-- but because you were not completely out-of-hand you \njustify your lesser indescretions?  Some pretty distorted thinking, I\nshould say.  \nOh-- I'm sorry, I just noticed that you left mucho bucks (as in MONEY)...\nNevermind my criticism, I was out of line.  I forgot that when one leaves\nmucho bucks (as in MONEY) their behavior is permissable, perhaps even \njustified.\n\nKeep in mind that \"themfolks\" are the ones that could give a %$#@! when \na biker gets killed, when *their* elected officials institute further\ndraconian legislation (helmet laws, gun controls, etc.), the ones that don't \nrespect our rights on the roads because we do not respect theirs all \"the\nrest of the time...\"\nNeed I continue?\n\nSo continue to wear your stigma as a badge, but the next time you are\nwhining about \"them\" and the effect of their values on yours, remember\nthat it was probably the behavior of self-righteous wusses like myself\nthat kept \"them\" at bay for this long.\n\nEnjoy,\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\tThe Viper isn't an Inline 10 or Flat 10, is it?  I'm pretty sure its\na V-10.  Also, the Cizeta??? is a V-16, but it may not yet be more than a \ndream...\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Okay, the Caps AGAIN are about to break out the golf clubs but before they\ndo, does anyone have the history of the Washington Capitals' futility\nrecord in the playoffs? I remember that Terry's first year was the first\nyear that the Caps finally made it to the third round but before under\nBrian, I noticed that every other year the Caps got to the second round\nand the years in between they didn't make it past the first round. Is this\ntrend continuning? \nThe Admiral, a hopeless Caps fan.\nP.S. We still remember that 3 OT loss to the Islanders! Aurggghhhhhhhhh!\n____________________________________________________________________________\n~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Quoting amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker) in article <1rn1b3$khb@news.intercon.com>:\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"A friend recorded CNN news during the gassing and incineration of\nthe BD's.  I went through it carefully today, and found something\nvery interesting.  A tank is pulling out of the house, and there\nis a fireball, maybe 24\" across that lasts for about 1 second.\nExactly ten minutes and thirty nine seconds later, the smoke starts\nbillowing out of that area of the building.\nNow, I'm no govt. spokestwinkie, so it might really have been a\nweather balloon or something.  Perhaps someone would check it out\nand comment.\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nI would put it stronger than that.  I consider it nonsense.\n\nSimply put, I do not see any way that a \"Platonic essence\" could have\nany *real* existance.  \"Essence\" in the Platonic sense does not have\nany referent as far as I can tell - it is just an imaginary concept\ninvented to provide an explanation for things better explained in\nother ways.\n\nSo, to attribute an 'essence' to God is to attribute to him something that\ndoes not exist!!  Thus the orthodox Platonic formulation seems to leave\nthe unity of God in limbo, since it is based on a non-existant 'essence',\nthus failing to avoid the very problem it was supposed to address.\n\nThus, to me, the unity of God must be primary, and the triality must be\nsecondary, must be modal or aspectual (relating to roles, or to modes\nof interaction), since otherwise there is no meaning to saying God is one.\n\n-- \nsarima@teradata.com\t\t\t(formerly tdatirv!sarima)\n  or\nStanley.Friesen@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nWell, as a hockey fan, I think it's terrible. It's one thing to say, \"Hey, \nlet's give a hockey team to cities that don't have one!\" -- that's fine. It's\nentirely another to say, \"Okay, let's take a team from a thriving hockey town\nand move it!\" \n\nOf course, none of us will ever know the real inside story, but\nfrom what I know, a group of Minneapolis businessmen told Green repeatedly that\nthey would purchase the remaining 3600 (?) season tickets to get to the 10,000\nlevel that Green wanted, yet he refused every time. It's pretty obvious that he\nwas determined to get out of Minneapolis at any cost and use the season tickets\nthing as an excuse. \n\nI was fortunate enough to get to the penultimate game, and\nthe fans were great! People were tailgating and playing roller hockey in the\nparking lot before the game, the attendance was so full as to have SRO, and the\nwhole atmosphere in the Centre was terrific. Minnesota IS Hockey, USA. How the\nNHL can so blithely let the major league team from there move away is beyond \nme. I only hope they get a new team soon.\n\nJust my $0.02.\n\n\n-- Ali.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"My (then) wife used to get recurrent yeast infections. One day, her\ndoctor sent her home with medication for her and a pill for me. I took\nthe pill, upon her insistence, and was very relieved the next day when I\nlooked it up in the PDR. It only RARELY causes testicular atrophy...","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"hi,\n\ntry DontZap in \/usr\/lib\/X11\/Xconfig\n\ncu\n\tstyx\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nParts of Sen. Biden's statement were quoted by the Washington Post today:\n\n   Let me put it plainly, Mr. Secretary.  You are required to speak\n   diplomatically; I am not.  I cannot even begin to express to you\n   my contempt for a European policy that is now asking us to \n   participate in what amounts to a codification of the Serbian victory.\n   ...\n   What you have encountered is a discouraging mosaic of indifference,\n   timidity, self-delusion and hypocrisy.\n   ...\n   After they held our coats on Kuwait and Somalia, they are asking us\n   to put in a few thousand troops on the ground in order to have the\n   right to speak and in order to implement their new idea of 'safe\n   havens' for the Bosnians...\n   Let's not mince words.  European policy is based on cultural and\n   religious indifference, if not bigotry.  And I think it's fair to say\n   that this would be an entirely different situation if the Muslims\n   were doing what the Serbs have done, if this was Muslim aggression\n   instead of Serbian aggression.\n\nToo bad the Washington Post did not include his next sentence, which \npointed out that a consequence of such policy is a rising anger\nwithin the Islamic world, the consequences of which we cannot begin\nto predict.  Later, Biden told a reporter why he spoke out:\n\n   I think someone has to respond to Europe to make it clear\n   this is a big deal... so they will understand.\n\nand it IS a big deal.  By refusing the fundamental human right of\nself-defense to Bosnia-Herzegovina, Europe and the world have \naided the Serbian aggression.  Moreover, the arms embargo has\nforced a situation in which Bosnian Serbs have 10 times more heavy\nweaponry than Bosnian Croats and Muslims combined.  Under such\nconditions, it is very easy for Serbs to play a \"divide-and-conquer\"\ngame, and to get the Muslims and Croats (who have strong common\ninterests and who were allied against the Serbian aggression) \nto start fighting each other, which leads to their mutual catastrophe.\n\nOne final quote:  U.S. Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, has\nsaid in Rome last week that \"In practice, the embargo had the opposite\neffect intended.  It made aggression certain.\"\n\nAll diplomats who deluded themselves that they could negotiate peace\nwhile enforcing a 10:1 imbalance of power on the ground have contributed\nto this tragedy.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\ndoes anyone know about allergic reactions caused by the developer\/toner\nof laser printers? What chemical stuff is involved?\n\nThanks in advance!\n\nReinhard","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nYes it has to be very clear (like it wasn't there).  And of course, cost is \nalways a factor.  I am trying to get an idea of the feasability of such an \nidea.  But I don't want to give too much away.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n    First, a tank drove through the wall into the living room.\n\n    I can't stop thinking about the children who were inside\n    the house (the room?) at the time.\n\n    How many people got killed during the Tiannamen Square events?\n\n\n\n-- \n------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nDisclaimer: Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"*** On 04-19-93  03:53, Wayne Mcdougall had the unmitigated gall to say this:\n\n WM> The software is Netware 286 Level II and I can see burnt on to the\n WM> screen SFT Netware 286 Level II V2.0a. However, to configure netware\n WM> for level II (mirrored or duplexed disks) requires a second disk, yes? \n\n Yes.  Mirroring requires a controller that is capable of writing to two\n disks at once.  Duplexing, which is the preferred way of mirroring, uses\n two controller cards and two disk drives.  Duplexing requires a special\n card and two identical disk drives (in most cases).  Duplexing can\n sometimes be pulled off with slightly different drives\/controllers, as long\n as the sizes are the same.\n\n WM> So how is the Novell Server 286A normally configured?\n\n The configuration is completely up to the user.\n\n WM> 1. Can I install SFT Netware 286 Level II V2.0a as Level I, or is this\n WM> what is causing my serialization error?\n\n If you only have one disk, then you can't use Level II SFT.  However, the\n OSOBJ disk has a serial number on it, and if this disk is for a different\n version of NetWare then you would get a serialization error.  Make sure\n that this disk actually belongs to the rest of the set of floppies in the\n NetWare installation set.\n\n WM> 2. Is the Novell Server 286A normally equipped with two hard drives,\n WM> one of which has failed?\n\n Two drives could be either two netware volumes at SFT I, or one volume\n mirrored using SFT II.  Impossible to tell with the network being down.\n\n WM> 3. Would this mean I can not install the network software because it\n WM> will not be serialized for this hardware with a failed drive?\n\n Try disconnecting the failed drive, using a standard disk controller, and\n installing the software as one volume under SFT I.  If the software will\n install, and if the one disk is functional, then it should be able to work\n in this configuration.\n\n WM> 4. What else can cause a serialization error?\n\n See the comment concerning the serial number on the OSOBJ installation\n floppy.\n\n WM> 5. What happens if the keycard fails?\n\n What is the keycard attached to?\n\n\n... Line noise provided by South Central Bell!\n--- Blue Wave\/QWK v2.10\n                                                                                                                         ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I, too, put a corbin seat on my Hawk.  I got the solo seat (which\ncould carry a passenger for a short distance) and it is 100%\nbetter than the stock seat.  No longer does my voice squeak after\nthe ride to work.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n   > >  What  evidence  indicates that Gamma Ray bursters are very far away?\n\n   > >Given the enormous  power,  i was just wondering,  what if they are\n   > >quantum  black holes or something  like that  fairly close by?\n\n   > >Why would they have to be at  galactic ranges?   \n\n   . . . David gives good explaination of the deductions from the isotropic,\n   'edged' distribution, to whit, they are either part of the Universe or\n   part of the Oort cloud.\n\n   Why couldn't they be Earth centred, with the edge occuring at the edge\n   of the gravisphere? I know there isn't any mechanism for them, but there\n   isn't a mechanism for the others either.\n\nWhat on Earth is the \"gravisphere\"?\nAnyway, before it's decay the Pioneer Venus Orbiter\nhad a gamma ray detector, as does Ulysses, they \ndetect the brightest bursts that the Earth orbit detectors\ndo, so the bursts are at least at Oort cloud distances.\nIn principle four detectors spaced out by a few AU would\nsee parallax if the bursts are of solar system origin.\n\n_The_ problem with Oort cloud sources is that absolutely\nno plausible mechanism has been proposed. It would have\nto involve new physics as far as I can tell. Closest to\n\"conventional\" Oort sources is a model of B-field pinching\nby comets, it's got too many holes in it to count, but at\nleast it was a good try...","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nDanny...\n\nWhile working on my shareware toolbar, I found myself 'eating' resources,\nand a very wise person pointed me to the SDK, and specifically the debug\nkernel. Once you have all the SDK stuff installed, (this also comes with\nVC++), you run 'n2d' which does a 'normal-to-debug' swap. The debug kernel\nruns C O N S I D E R A B L Y slower, but you then execute the command\nDBWIN, and let it report to you what is going on. You are going to find\nout a lot more about your Apps than you cared to, and possibly about other\npeoples Apps (is that OPA?..I'm sorry). \n\nIf this doesn't make sense, repost, or e-mail me\n\ndave\n\n-- \n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nDave Campbell at WynApse |                       WynApse\n  wynapse@indirect.com   |        The Shareware Custom Control Source","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nThat'll teach me not to qualify my statements...\n\n\nOK, something to shoot for.  The Royals will score 531 runs or less\nthis season (although they just decided to get McRae out of the\nleadoff spot :-( )\n\nOf course, Valentine will throw this one back in my face when the\nRoyals even manage to outscore another AL team.\n\n\nSean\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I have a problem with the wallpaper on my desktop, in 1024x768x256 mode.  \nFor bitmap files bigger than about 512k (slightly less sometimes depending \non the exact dimensions), the wallpaper display is badly corrupted.  The \nrest of the desktop is fine.  For wallpaper bitmaps smaller than this, I \nhave no problem.  I have a friend who has an 800k bitmap which he has no \nproblems with, so it is possible.  It is also possible to display these\nbitmaps using CShow in 1024x768x256 mode with no problem, so the video \ncard is not at fault.\n\nHow can I remedy this?\n\nMy system:\n\n     386DX40, 4Mb ram.\n     DOS 6.0, Windows 3.1.\n     Oak 1Mb 077 Video card, 1024x768x256 mode, using supplied drivers.\n     Windows has a permanent 11,288kb swap file.\n\nPlease reply via e-mail, and _use the address in my .sig_, as our post \nsoftware always seems to mangle the address in the header.\n\n    Thanks,\n          Mazz.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Could someone give me some info on Soft PC.   How does it work?\nWhat kind of performance can I expect? Can you run windows under it adequately?\nAny info if appreciated.\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nYou need to run FDISK.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nYou could do what I do: never go near the stuff!  :)\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Wondering if somebody could tell me if we can change the cluster size of\nmy IDE drive.  Normally I can do it with Norton's Calibrat on MFM\/RLL drives\nbut dunno if I can on IDE too.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nThe difference is that the 16550 got bugs while the 16550A can be used\nwhithout problems even in fast serial communications. Other sources\nsay that only the 16550AFN from Nat Semi (i.e. not: second sources)\nis really OK.\n\nBest wishes","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":":     This may be an FAQ (if so, please direct me to the known answer) but I\n:     am getting frustrated and looking for help.\n: \n:     I am running Win 3.1 with NDW 2.2 on a 486sx with 8 meg of memory and a\n:     6 meg perm swap file and am getting exceedingly frustrated that my\n:     applications are not giving back system resources when I close them.\n:\nI've noticed this also.  The way it was explained to me is that Windows\ndoes not clear the upper memory blocks after a program is done.  Anyone\nout there know if this is why?","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nDepression can also have various chemical (environmental) components.\nI noticed that I became depressed in various buildings, and at home\nwhen the air conditioning was on. Subsequent testing revealed that\nI was allergic to stemphyllium, a mold commonly found in air conditioners.\nAfter I began taking antigens, that problem disappeared.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"THE WHITE HOUSE\n\n                    Office of the Press Secretary\n______________________________________________________________\nFor Immediate Release                             April 20, 1993     \n\n\t     \n                       REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT\n            IN QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION WITH THE PRESS \n\n\n                           The Rose Garden\n\n\n1:36 P.M. EDT\n\t     \n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  On February the 28th, four federal \nagents were killed in the line of duty trying to enforce the law \nagainst the Branch Davidian compound, which had illegally stockpiled \nweaponry and ammunition, and placed innocent children at risk.  \nBecause the BATF operation had failed to meet its objective, a 51-day \nstandoff ensued.  \n\t     \n\t     The Federal Bureau of Investigation then made every \nreasonable effort to bring this perilous situation to an end without \nbloodshed and further loss of life.  The Bureau's efforts were \nultimately unavailing because the individual with whom they were \ndealing, David Koresh, was dangerous, irrational, and probably \ninsane.      \n\n\t     He engaged in numerous activities which violated both \nfederal law and common standards of decency.  He was, moreover, \nresponsible for the deaths and injuries which occurred during the \naction against the compound in February.  Given his inclination \ntowards violence and in an effort to protect his young hostages, no \nprovocative actions were taken for more than seven weeks by federal \nagents against the compound.  \n\t     \n\t     This weekend I was briefed by Attorney General Reno on \nan operation prepared by the FBI, designed to increase pressure on \nKoresh and persuade those in the compound to surrender peacefully.  \nThe plan included a decision to withhold the use of ammunition, even \nin the face of fire, and instead to use tear gas that would not cause \npermanent harm to health, but would, it was hoped, force the people \nin the compound to come outside and to surrender.\n\t     \n\t     I was informed of the plan to end the siege.  I \ndiscussed it with Attorney General Reno.  I asked the questions I \nthought it was appropriate for me to ask.  I then told her to do what \nshe thought was right, and I take full responsibility for the \nimplementation of the decision.  \n\t     \n\t     Yesterday's action ended in a horrible human tragedy.  \nMr. Koresh's response to the demands for his surrender by federal \nagents was to destroy himself and murder the children who were his \ncaptives, as well as all the other people who were there who did not \nsurvive.  He killed those he controlled, and he bears ultimate \nresponsibility for the carnage that ensued.\n\t     \n\t     Now we must review the past with an eye towards the \nfuture.  I have directed the United Stated Departments of Justice and \nTreasury to undertake a vigorous and thorough investigation to \nuncover what happened and why, and whether anything could have been \ndone differently.  I have told the departments to involve independent \nprofessional law enforcement officials in the investigation.  I \nexpect to receive analysis and answers in whatever time is required \nto complete the review.  Finally, I have directed the departments to \ncooperate fully with all congressional inquiries so that we can \ncontinue to be fully accountable to the American people.\n\t     \n\t     I want to express my appreciation to the Attorney \nGeneral, to the Justice Department, and to the federal agents on the \nfront lines who did the best job they could under deeply difficult \ncircumstances.  \n\t     \n\t     Again, I want to say as I did yesterday, I am very sorry \nfor the loss of life which occurred at the beginning and at the end \nof this tragedy in Waco.  I hope very much that others who will be \ntempted to join cults and to become involved with people like David \nKoresh will be deterred by the horrible scenes they have seen over \nthe last seven weeks.  And I hope very much that the difficult \nsituations which federal agents confronted there and which they will \nbe doubtless required to confront in other contexts in the future \nwill be somewhat better handled and better understood because of what \nhas been learned now.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Mr. President, can you, first of all, tell us why, \nafter 51 days, you decided --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Mr. President, can you describe for us what it is \nthat Janet Reno outlined to you in your 15-minute phone conversation \nwith --\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  I can't hear you both.  If one will go \nfirst and then the other.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Sorry.  Can you describe what Janet Reno --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Mr. President --\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  I'll answer both your questions, but I \ncan't do it at once.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Can you describe what she told you on Sunday about \nthe nature of the operation and how much detail you knew about it?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Yes.  I was told by the Attorney General \nthat the FBI strongly felt that the time had come to take another \nstep in trying to dislodge the people in the compound.  And she \ndescribed generally what the operation would be -- that they wanted \nto go in and use tear gas which had been tested not to cause \npermanent damage to adults or to children, but which would make it \nvery difficult for people to stay inside the building.  And it was \nhoped that the tear gas would permit them to come outside.  \n\t     \n\t     I was further told that under no circumstances would our \npeople fire any shots at them even if fired upon.  They were going to \nshoot the tear gas from armored vehicles which would protect them and \nthere would be no exchange of fire.  In fact, as you know, an awful \nlot of shots were fired by the cult members at the federal officials.  \nThere were no shots coming back from the government side.\n\t     \n\t     I asked a number of questions.  The first question I \nasked is, why now?  We have waited seven weeks; why now?  The reasons \nI was given were the following:\n\t     \n\t     Number one, that there was a limit to how long the \nfederal authorities could maintain with their limited resources the \nquality and intensity of coverage by experts there.  They might be \nneeded in other parts of the country.\n\t     \n\t     Number two, that the people who had reviewed this had \nnever seen a case quite like this one before, and they were convinced \nthat no progress had been made recently and no progress was going to \nbe made through the normal means of getting Koresh and the other cult \nmembers to come out.  \n\t     \n\t     Number three, that the danger of their doing something \nto themselves or to others was likely to increase, not decrease, with \nthe passage of time.\n\t     \n\t     And number four, that they had reason to believe that \nthe children who were still inside the compound were being abused \nsignificantly, as well as being forced to live in unsanitary and \nunsafe conditions.\n\t     \n\t     So for those reasons, they wanted to move at that time.  \nThe second question I asked the Attorney General is whether they had \ngiven consideration to all of the things that could go wrong and \nevaluated them against what might happen that was good.  She said \nthat the FBI personnel on the scene and those working with them were \nconvinced that the chances of bad things happening would only \nincrease with the passage of time.\n\t     \n\t     The third question I asked was, has the military been \nconsulted?  As soon as the initial tragedy came to light in Waco, \nthat's the first thing I asked to be done, because it was obvious \nthat this was not a typical law enforcement situation.  Military \npeople were then brought in, helped to analyze the situation and some \nof the problems that were presented by it.   And so I asked if the \nmilitary had been consulted.  The Attorney General said that they \nhad, and that they were in basic agreement that there was only one \nminor tactical difference of opinion between the FBI and the military \n-- something that both sides thought was not of overwhelming \nsignificance.\n\t     \n\t     Having asked those questions and gotten those answers, I \nsaid that if she thought it was the right thing to do, that she \nshould proceed and that I would support it.  And I stand by that \ntoday.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Mr. President --\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Wait.  Go ahead.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Can you address the widespread perception --\nreported widely, television, radio and newspapers -- that you were \ntrying somehow to distance yourself from this disaster?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  No, I'm bewildered by it.  The only \nreason I made no public statement yesterday -- let me say -- the only \nreason I made no public statement yesterday is that I had nothing to \nadd to what was being said and I literally did not know until rather \nlate in the day whether anybody was still alive other than those who \nhad been actually seen and taken to the hospital or taken into \ncustody.  It was purely and simply a question of waiting for events \nto unfold.  \n\t     \n\t     There was -- I have -- I can't account for why people \nspeculated one way or the other, but I talked to the Attorney General \non the day before the action took place.  I talked to her yesterday.  \nI called her again late last night after she appeared on the Larry \nKing Show, and I talked to her again this morning.  A President -- it \nis not possible for a President to distance himself from things that \nhappen when the federal government is in control.\n\t     \n\t     I will say this, however.  I was, frankly, surprised \nwould be a mild word, to say that anyone that would suggest that the \nAttorney General should resign because some religious fanatics \nmurdered themselves.  (Applause.)  \n\t     \n\t     I regret what happened, but it is not possible in this \nlife to control the behavior of others in every circumstance.  These \npeople killed four federal officials in the line of duty.  They were \nheavily armed.  They fired on federal officials yesterday repeatedly, \nand they were never fired back on.  We did everything we could to \navoid the loss of life.  They made the decision to immolate \nthemselves.  And I regret it terribly, and I feel awful about the \nchildren.  \n\t     \n\t     But in the end, the last comment I had from Janet Reno, \nis when -- and I talked to her on Sunday -- I said, now, I want you \nto tell me once more why you believe -- not why they believe -- why \nyou believe we should move now rather than wait some more.  And she \nsaid, it's because of the children.  They have evidence that those \nchildren are still being abused and that they're in increasingly \nunsafe conditions, and that they don't think it will get any easier \nwith time -- with the passage of time.  I have to take their word for \nthat.  So that is where I think things stand.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Can we assume then that you don't think this was \nmishandled in view of the outcome, that you didn't run out of \npatience?  And if you had it to do over again, would you really \ndecide that way?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  No -- well, I think what you can assume \nis just exactly what I announced today.  This is a -- the FBI has \ndone a lot of things right for this country over a long period of \ntime.  This is the same FBI that found the people that bombed the \nWorld Trade Center in lickety-split, record time.  We want an inquiry \nto analyze the steps along the way.  Is there something else we \nshould have known?  Is there some other question they should have \nasked?  Is there some other question I should have asked?  Can I say \nfor sure that no one -- that we could have done nothing else to make \nthe outcome come different?  I don't know that.  That's why I want \nthe inquiry and that's why I would like to make sure that we have \nsome independent law enforcement people, not political people, but \ntotally non-political, outside experts who can bring to bear the best \nevidence we have.  \n\t     \n\t     There is, unfortunately, a rise in this sort of \nfanaticism all across the world.  And we may have to confront it \nagain.  And I want to know whether there is anything we can do, \nparticularly when there are children involved.  But I do think it is \nimportant to recognize that the wrong-doers in this case were the \npeople who killed others and then killed themselves.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Mr. President, were there any other options \npresented to you for resolving this situation at any point from \nFebruary 28th until yesterday?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Well, yes, I got regular reports all \nalong the way.  There were lots of other options pursued.  If you go \nback -- you all covered it very well.  The FBI -- you did a very good \njob of it.  I mean, the FBI and the other authorities there pursued \nany number of other options all along the way, and a lot of them \nearly on seemed to be working.  Some of the children got out, some of \nthe other people left.  There was a -- at one point, there seemed to \nbe some lines of communication opening up between Koresh and the \nauthorities.  And then he would say things and not do them and things \njust began to spin downward.  \n\t     \n\t     Whether there were other -- in terms of what happened \nyesterday, the conversation I had with the Attorney General did not \ninvolve other options except whether we should take more time with \nthe present strategy we were pursuing -- because they said they \nwanted to do this, because they thought this was the best way to get \npeople out of the compound quickly before they could kill themselves.  \nThat's what they thought.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Did the government know that the children did not \nhave gas masks?\n\t     \n\t     Q\t     congressional hearings once the situation -- are \nyou in agreement with that?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  That's up to the Congress.  They can do \nwhatever they want.  But I think it's very important that the \nTreasury and Justice Departments launch this investigation and bring \nin some outside experts.  And as I said in my statement, if any \ncongressional committees want to look into it, we will fully \ncooperate.  There is nothing to hide here.  This was probably the \nmost well-covered operation of its kind in the history of the \ncountry.\n\t     \n\t     Go ahead, Sarah.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  There are two questions I want to ask you.  The \nfirst is, I think that they knew very well that the children did not \nhave gas masks while the adults did, so the children had no chance \nbecause this gas was very -- she said it was not lethal, but it was \nvery dangerous to the children and they could not have survived \nwithout gas masks.  And on February 28th -- let's go back -- didn't \nthose people have a right to practice their religion?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  They were not just practicing their \nreligion, they were -- the Treasury Department believed that they had \nviolated federal laws, any number of them.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What federal laws --\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Let me go back and answer -- I can't \nanswer the question about the gas masks, except to tell you that the \nwhole purpose of using the tear gas was that it had been tested; they \nwere convinced that it wouldn't kill either a child or an adult but \nit would force anybody that breathed it to run outside.  And one of \nthe things that I've heard -- I don't want to get into the details of \nthis because I don't know -- but one of the things that they were \nspeculating about today was that the wind was blowing so fast that \nthe windows might have been opened and some of the gas might have \nescaped and that may be why it didn't have the desired effect.  \n\t     \n\t     They also knew, Sarah, that there was an underground \ncompound -- a bus buried underground where the children could be \nsent.  And they were -- I think they were hoping very much that if \nthe children were not released immediately outside that the humane \nthing would be done and that the children would be sent someplace \nwhere they could be protected.  \n\t     \n\t     In terms of the gas masks themselves, I learned \nyesterday -- I did not ask this fact question before -- that the gas \nwas supposed to stay active in the compound longer than the gas masks \nthemselves were to work.  So that it was thought that even if they \nall had gas masks, that eventually the gas would force them out in a \nnonviolent, nonshooting circumstance.\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Last question.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Mr. President, why are you still saying that --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Could you tell us whether or not you ever asked \nJanet Reno about the possibility of a mass suicide?  And when you \nlearned about the actual fire and explosion what went through your \nmind during those horrendous moments?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  What I asked Janet Reno is if they had \nconsidered all the worse things that could happen.  And she said --\nand, of course, the whole issue of suicide had been raised in the \npublic -- he had -- that had been debated anyway.  And she said that \nthe people who were most knowledgeable  about these kinds of issues \nconcluded that there was no greater risk of that now than there would \nbe tomorrow or the next day or the day after that or at anytime in \nthe future.  That was the judgment they made.  Whether they were \nright or wrong, of course, we will never know. \n\t     \n\t     What happened when I saw the fire, when I saw the \nbuilding burning?  I was sick.  I felt terrible.  And my immediate \nconcern was whether the children had gotten out and whether they were \nescaping or whether they were inside, trying to burn themselves up.  \nThat's the first thing I wanted to know.  \n\t     \n\t     Thank you.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Mr. President, why are you still saying it was a \nJanet Reno decision?  Isn't it, in the end, your decision?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Well, what I'm saying is that I didn't \nhave a four- or five-hour, detailed briefing from the FBI.  I didn't \ngo over every strategic part of it.  It is a decision for which I \ntake responsibility.  I'm the President of the United States and I \nsigned off on the general decision and giving her the authority to \nmake the last call.  When I talked to her on Sunday, some time had \nelapsed.  She might have made a decision to change her mind.  I said, \nif you decide to go forward with this tomorrow, I will support you. \nAnd I do support her.  \n\t     \n\t     She is not ultimately responsible to the American \npeople; I am.  But I think she has conducted her duties in an \nappropriate fashion and she has dealt with this situation I think as \nwell as she could have.  \n\t     \n\t     Thank you.  (Applause.)","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
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{"text":"\nI read it. I found it wonderful. For some reason (no flames,\nplease), I was reminded of Hemingway, Carl Orff and Van Gogh (not\nall at once, though).\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nAs St. Augustine said, \"I did not invent original sin, which the\nCatholic faith holds from ancient time; but you, who deny it, without a\ndoubt are a follower of a new heresy.\"  (De nuptiis, lib. 11.c.12)]","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nI've only ever seen this called once.  Back around 1979-1980.  I think\nthat Steve Carlton was pitching.  On the other hand, I am not sure how\nmuch effect this would have.  It seems that most of the time lost is\nwhen there are runners on base and the rule does not cover this.\n\n\nI have wondered why a pitcher is given 8 pitches when he enters the\ngame.  Let's be serious.  The relief pitcher has normally been\nthrowing out in the bullpen for a few minutes.  Does he really need 8\nmore pitches?\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nSince you asked, the above is a bit inaccurate. More accurate is that the\ngovernment says its solid, other people in the field who might be able to\nfind out haven't yet done their review of the chip design, and there's been\na lot of wild speculation and guesswork from those with little information\nthat it might be Swiss cheese.\n\nDavid\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nJust from experience, seeing a couple of houses burn down, one doesn't\nneed any accelerant to get a lot of black soot.  There's plenty of\nstuff in a house that will burn 'dirty'.  Even the asphalt shingles\nwould make a really sooty smoke.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nA great deal of documentation exists on exactly that phenomenon. Especially\nregarding Vietnam and the Mai Lai (sp?) massacre\n\nNot that I'm suggesting that they started it on purpose but even if they\nnow know that they accidentally started (or contributed to it) you can\nbe sure the initial reaction is to lie. Remember the Iranian airliner\nwhich the US navy mistook for a fighter and shot down?","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"At the moment, I am using a Sun 3\/80 (cgfour\/bwtwo) with SunOS 4.0.3\nand OpenWindows 2.0.\n\nThis configuration is slow and I can't run all the programs on OW2. For\nexample, when I start a mailtool from OW3 and display it on my OW2\ndisplay, I can't open the compose window.\n\nI want to install an X11R5 or X11R4 server on my Sun and use xdm (yes,\nwe have xdm already running for other X-Terminals) to log in and start\nthe X programs.\n\nIs there a \"ready to go\" binairy of the X11 server for my configuration\n(I have read something about Xsun), or must I compile the X11 stuff by\nmyself?\n\nAny help is welcome\n\n\tV. Smeets\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nIt first depends on what an idle cpu is doing!\n\nI'm not sure about DOS, but many multitasking OSs have an loop like this\n\n\nloop:\n\tis there anything to do?\n\t\tYES -> do it; goto loop\n\t\tNO  -> goto loop\n\n\nThe CPU is not doing any work but it is still processing instructions...\n\nIt will also respond to interupts...\n\n\nGuy","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I just wanted to point out, that Teflon wasn't from the space program.\nIt was from the WWII nuclear weapons development program.  Pipes in the \nsystem for fractioning and enriching uranium had to be lined with it.\n\nUranium Hexafloride was the chemical they turned the pitchblend into for\nenrichment.  It is massively corrosive.  Even to Stainless steels. Hence\nthe need for a very inert substaance to line the pipes with.  Teflon has\nall its molecular sockets bound up already, so it is very unreactive.\n\nMy 2 sense worth.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\n\tI am admin for an RS\/6000 running AIX 3.2, X11R5, Motif, and xdt3.\n\tI want to prevent the user from hitting CNTL-ALT-BKSPC to exit X.\n\t\n\tI've tried invoking X with 'xinit -T', but that doesn't work.\n\txinit appends the -T to the call to .xinitrc, and not to the\n\tcall to X.  \n\n\tThe man page to xinit is no help.  In fact, it tells\n\tme that xinit is a script when it is really a binary file.  \n\n\tSo far, the only way I've been able to accomplish this feat is\n\tto add the -T to the call to X in \/usr\/lpp\/X11\/defaults\/xserverrc.\n\tI would rather not do it this way.  Does anyone have any other ideas?\n\n \n------------------------------------------------------------------------\n  Brian DeFord\t\t\t\tInternet: deford@netwrx1.nw1.com\t\n  Open Networks, Inc.\t\t\tUsenet:   uunet!netwrx1!deford\n  11490 Commerce Park Dr. #205\t\tTel:      703-648-0013\n  Reston, VA 22091\t\t\tFAX:      703-648-0016\n\n\t\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"A while ago I saw some translucent pads, about 6\"x8\" or so that \ncould be plugged into (something) and they would glow.  One was red, \nanother green, another blue.  Interresting.  I was wondering if anyone \nwould have a feed on anything of this nature, and of the price.\n   oh, the pads were rubber-like and were floppy like, about 1cm thick or \nso.\n \n                Thanks.\n \n \n  _________________________________________________\n  Inspiration  |   ___                             |\n  comes to     |  \\   o  baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca |\n  those who    | (  ^  ) baden@inqmind.bison.mb.ca |\n  seek the     |   \/-\\      =] Baden de Bari [=    |\n  unknown.     |                                   |","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Did anyone install xdbx v2.1.2 on SGI workstation ?\n\n\nThanks for your answer.\t\tGildas PERROT.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"-*----\n\nFar from being \"tossed out,\" the gospels are taken, almost\nuniversally, as the primary source of information about Jesus.\nI am curious as to whom Mike Cobb is referring.  Who \"tosses out\"\nthe New Testament?  Undoubtedly a few *naive* atheists do this,\nbut the phrasing of the question above seems to suggest that Cobb\nascribes this more broadly.\n\nPerhaps the question that gets more to the heart of the matter is\nwhy, except for some *naive* believers (who, unfortunately, far\noutnumber nonbelievers, both naive and critical), are the gospels\n*not* taken as \"gospel truth\" that faithfully records just what\nhappened two thousand years ago?  This has an easy answer, and\nthe answer has *nothing* to do with miracles: no text is taken\nthis way by a critical reader.\n\nThere is a myth among some naive believers that one takes a text,\nmeasures it by some set of criteria, and then either confirms the\ntext as \"historically valid\" or \"tosses out\" the text.  I suspect\nthis myth comes from the way history is presented in primary and\nsecondary school, where certain texts are vested with authority,\nand from writers such as Josh McDowell who pretend to present\nhistorical arguments along these lines for their religious\nprogram.  In fact, most texts used in primary and secondary\nschool history classes ought to be tossed out, even the better\nsuch texts should not be treated as authoritatively as descibed\nabove, and Josh McDowell would not know a historical argument if\nit bit him on the keister twice.\n\nLet me present the barest outlines of a different view of texts\nand their use in studying history.  First, all texts are\nhistorically valid.  ALL texts.  Or to put this another way, I\nhave never seen a notion of \"historical validity\" that makes any\nsense when applied to a text.  Second, no text should be read as\ntelling the \"gospel truth\" about historical events, in the way\nthat many students are wont to read history texts in primary and\nsecondary school.  NO text.  (This includes your favorite\nauthor's history of whatever.)\n\nEvery text is a historical fact.  Every text was written by some\nperson (or some group of people) for some purpose.  Hence, every\ntext can serve as historical evidence.  The question is: what can\nwe learn from a text?  Of what interesting things (if any) does\nthe text provide evidence?\n\nThe diaries of the followers of the Maharishi, formerly of\nOregon, are historical evidence.  The gospels are historical\nevidence.  The letters of the officers who participated in the \nvampire inquests in Eastern Europe are historical evidence.  The\nmodern American history textbooks that whitewash \"great American\nfigures\" are historical evidence.  These are all historical\nevidence of various things.  They are *not* much evidence at all\nthat the Maharishi, formerly of Oregon, could levitate; that\nJesus was resurrected; that vampires exist; or that \"great\nAmerican figures\" are as squeaky clean as we learned in school.\nThey are better evidence that some people \"saw\" the Maharishi,\nlate of Oregon, levitate; that some of the early Christians\nthought Jesus was resurrected; that many people in Eastern Europe\n\"saw\" vampires return from the grave; and that we still have an\neducational system that largely prefers to spread myth rather\nthan teach history.\n\nHow does one draw causal connections and infer what a piece of\nhistorical evidence -- text or otherwise -- evinces?  This is a\nvery complex question that has no easily summarized answer.\nThere are many books on the subject or various parts of the\nsubject.  I enjoy David Hackett Fischer's \"Historian's Fallacies\"\nas a good antidote to the uncritical way in which it is so easy\nto read texts present history.  It's relatively cheap.  It's easy\nto read.  Give it a try.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nWell, it seems we don't learn the lessons of history do we?\n\nI was hoping that Kent State taught us a lesson.\n\nApparently not.\n\nApparently the government will murder anyone they choose to still.\n\n---\nRawlin Blake    blake@nevada.edu","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Well, I'm finally about to key in the official rules for the archives, but\nbefore I do, I will ask again...\n\ndoes anybody have the official MLB rules in electronic format?\n\nJust trying to save myself a ton of work...no, they don't scan well because\nof the ridiculous format they're printed in.\n\nthanks\n\n- Matt\n\n\n\nMatt Wall * wall@cc.swarthmore.edu * Hey, I gotta job here, OK?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"This would be susceptible to fading, multi-path etc. We used to use a\nsystem at the shop made by Tellurometer in South Africa. It used a\n10 GHz signal between 2 units across the distance to be measured.\nThe 10 GHz was just the carrier: the real signals were several switched\nones around 7.5 MHz or so, whose relative phases at the receiver would\nread out the digits of the distance down to 10 cm if needed. The units\ncame with psychrometers (sp?) to measure the relative humidity and\ninstructions for correction of the measurements due to RH and temp.\nThey were rather heavy and required an operator at each end.\nCurrent technology uses polarized reflectors, dual polaization TX\/RX\nand psuedo-random coding of a radar pulse. about the same resolution\nat X band, much better at 47GHz. (Only one end is heavy :-)  ).\n \nRegards, Stu Beal, VE3MWM, U009@CSX.CCIW.CA,\nNational Water Research Institute, Burlington, Ontario, Canada.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nIn other words, the right of might.\n\n\n\nIn other words, the right of might.\n\n\n\n\nIn other words, he can do it, he did it, and your in no position to\nargue about it.\n \n\n\n\n \nIn other words, you better do what this God wants you to do, or else!\n\n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nWell, where is he?  Another false Messiah shot down in flames.\n\nMatthew 24:4\n   \"Watch out that no one deceives you.  For many will come in my\n    name, claiming, 'I am the Christ', and will deceive many.\"\n\nMatthew 24:23\n   \"At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!'\n    or 'There he is!' do not believe it.  For false Christs and \n    false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles\n    to deceive even the elect - if that were possible.  See, I have\n    told you ahead of time.\"\n\nDo we listen?  Sadly, not all of us do.\n\nPeace be with you, and condolences to the families of those lost at\nWaco.\n\nMalcolm Lee  ","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nCuriously enough, this subject has occupied a good bit of my prayer life\nrecently.  God's experience of time is so completely different from our own,\nsince He is both within and without it.  Using words like \"foreknowledge\"\nand \"predestination\" are semantically incorrect when it comes to describing\nGod's perception of our action, because, for God, the beginning, living, and\nending of our lives are all the same.  Sort of.  For God, there is no \"before\"\nwhen He did not know, so he could not have \"foreknowledge\" of our lives or\na time when he could have \"predestined\" our actions.  In fact, since our\nunderstanding of things is so tied to our linear experience of time, I\nwould say that it is impossible for us to understand completely how our\nfree will interacts with God's control of the universe.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"My mother has been advised to have a bone scan performed?  What is this\nprocedure for, and is it painful?  She's been having leg and back pain\nwhich her GP said was sciatica.  Her oncologist listened to her symptoms\nand said that it didn't sound like sciatica, and she should get a bone\nscan.  ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"But I have to agree.. Boston is a good team..  But streaky...  They put\ntogether a great streak to capture first place in the Adams, but for what?\n\nThey have lost the home ice advantage for at least the first round, and might\nnot make it out of it.\n\nI would love to see the Sabres win the first round, even though I bet on the\nBruins (a 12-pack).  \n\nOh well, perhaps I should start betting against the Sabres more often! ;-)\n\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Does anyone here know where I can find a modem and comm. software for\nan Apple IIe?  I would prefer in Manhattan, but New Jersey would\nwork too.  David Tillyer, DATCC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nLets talk about principles. If we accept that God sets the\nstandards for what ought to be included in Scripture - then we\ncan ask:\n1. Is it authoritative?\n2. Is it prophetic?\n3. Is it authentic?\n4. Is it dynamic?\n5. Is it received, collected, read and used?\n\nOn these counts, the apocrapha falls short of the glory of God.\nTo quote Unger's Bible Dictionary on the Apocrapha:\n1. They abound in historical and geographical inaccuracies and\nanachronisms.\n2. They teach doctrines which are false and foster practices\nwhich are at variance with sacred Scripture.\n3. They resort to literary types and display an artificiality of\nsubject matter and styling out of keeping with sacred Scripture.\n4. They lack the distinctive elements which give genuine\nScripture their divine character, such as prophetic power and\npoetic and religious feeling.\n\n\nBut the problem with this argument lies in the assumption that\nthe Hebrew canon included the Apocrapha in the first place, and\nit wasn't until the sixteenth century that Luther and co. threw\nthem out. The Jewish council you mentioned previously didn't\naccept them, so the reformation protestants had good historical\nprecedence for their actions. Jerome only translated the\napocrapha under protest, and it was literally 'over his dead\nbody' that it was included in the catholic canon.\n\n\nHow do you then view the words: \"I warn everyone who  hears the\nwords of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to\nthem, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.\nAnd if anyone takes away from this book the prophecy, God will\ntake away from him his share in the tree of life and in the\nholy city\" (Rev 22.18-9)\nSurely this sets the standard and not just man-made traditions.\n\nIt is also noteworthy to consider Jesus' attitude. He had no\nargument with the pharisees over any of the OT canon (John\n10.31-6), and explained to his followers on the road to Emmaus \nthat in the law, prophets and psalms which referred to him - the \nOT division of Scripture (Luke 24.44), as well as in Luke 11.51\ntaking Genesis to Chronicles (the jewish order - we would say\nGenesis to Malachi) as Scripture.\n\n\nI am not familiar with the book. \nSome other arguments you might like to consider are found in\nChapter 3 of Josh McDowell's Evidence That Demands A Verdict.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nThough I think this an overstatement, it does contain a grain of truth. It's\ndrug dealers, spies, terrorists, and organized crime figures (assuming\nenough probable cause to convince a judge) who need to be watched, not\nlaw-abiding citizens.\n\nDavid","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nYes, I have both Arts & Letters and CorelDraw.  I personally like\nArts & Letters better but there are things I like about Arts & Letters\nthat CorelDraw doesn't do an vice-versa.  I haven't found the perfect\ngraphics program that does everything yet.  \n\nMy favorite feature from CorelDraw is that it imports alot of different\nformats.  Arts & Letters does not.  I like the thousands of clipart\navailable with Arts & Letters.  However, I do find looking them up\nin a book and referencing them by number to be annoying.\n\nOne of my major problems is that there isn't any programs available on\nthe market for the artistically deprived :-).  ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"PhaNG, the Philadelphia Area NEXTSTEP User Group, will be holding a public  \nsneak preview of NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors.\n\nWhere: David Rittenhouse Labs Room A1\n       33rd And Walnut, southeast corner, Philadelphia PA\nWhen:  Wednesday, May 5th\n       7 pm to 9 pm\n\t\t\t \n\t\t\t \nNEXTSTEP is the 32 bit UNIX based operating environment which has, until now,\nonly been available on Motorola-based NeXT computers. In the May 11th issue\nof PC Magazine called NEXTSTEP a \"Hot Prospect\". Now, NeXT is nearing release\nof a version of NEXTSTEP which will run on 486-based PC's, yet is identical to\nthe 68040 version. In fact, NEXTSTEP 3.1 includes the ability to easily \ncompile a program into a single binary which will run on both Intel and\nMotorola hardware.\n\nNEXTSTEP 3.1 for Intel Processors will be demonstrated on an Epson Progression\n486 computer. NEXTSTEP is scheduled for release on May 25 at NeXTWorld Expo\nin San Francisco.\n\nThe demonstration will be open to the public. Come one come all! If you are  \ninterested in seeing the most advanced PC operating system around, come on by!\n\nFor a brief summary of what NEXTSTEP offers, see the May 11th issue of \nPC Magazine, page 66.\n\nFor more information, contact me:\n\nJonathan Hendry\nPhaNG, the Philadelphia Area NEXTSTEP User Group\n215-653-0911\n\njon@afs.com\n\n\n--\nJonathan W. Hendry\nDrexel University College Of Info. Studies\ntjhendry@queen.mcs.drexel.edu\n\n\"The experience of programming Windows vs. the experience of  \nprogramming NeXTStep is like going to the dentist and having a root canal  \nwithout anaesthetic vs. going to the dentist and having your gums cleaned  \nw\/some nitrous-oxide thrown in for the entertainment side of things.\"\nbbum@stone.co\n\n--\nJonathan W. Hendry\nDrexel University College Of Info. Studies\ntjhendry@queen.mcs.drexel.edu","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  ^^^^^\n  ^^^^^^^^\n\nBenzene is most definitely a carcinogen. If you can get your hands on it\n\n* Don't use it! *","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nThe May 1993 cover of QST has a picture of three different boards without\nany solder mask (you can tell from the copper colored traces). The box\nlabeled 2304 transverter has the brown teflon\/glass board, while the one\nin the center has the grayish board exposed.  On the left is some \nfiberglass board that looks green to me.  I see no reason\nfor putting solder mask on circuit board used for box covers :-).\n\nI wonder if any manufacturer actually puts a solder mask on their\nlow noise microwave preamps?  Often, microwave circuits have odd\nbits of wire\/foil\/metal attached to wherever\/whatever is necessary\nto make the unit work properly (this is a commercial product?).  A\nsolder mask would certainly make doing this tougher, never mind \nthe finding something that minimally degrades the circuits.  (Q dope\nfor coils *does* not improve the Q--it just holds things together with\nminimal loss).\n\nZack Lau  KH6CP\/1\n\nInternet: zlau@arrl.org           \"Working\" on 24 GHz SSB\/CW gear     \n\t\t\t          Operating Interests: 10 GHz CW\/SSB\/FM\nUS Mail: c\/o ARRL Lab\t\t\t\t       80\/40\/20 CW\n\t225 Main Street\t\t  Station capability: QRP, 1.8 MHz to 10 GHz\n\tNewington CT  06111\t               modes: CW\/SSB\/FM\/packet\n\t\t\t\t\t\t      amtor\/baudot\nPhone (if you really have to): 203-666-1541\n\nZack Lau  KH6CP\/1\n\nInternet: zlau@arrl.org           \"Working\" on 24 GHz SSB\/CW gear     \n\t\t\t          Operating Interests: 10 GHz CW\/SSB\/FM\nUS Mail: c\/o ARRL Lab\t\t\t\t       80\/40\/20 CW\n\t225 Main Street\t\t  Station capability: QRP, 1.8 MHz to 10 GHz\n\tNewington CT  06111\t               modes: CW\/SSB\/FM\/packet\n\t\t\t\t\t\t      amtor\/baudot\nPhone (if you really have to): 203-666-1541","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"[much blathering on the Role Of Military Forces in\nEnforcing Civil Law deleted]\n\nThe main problem with trying to get the Military involved in Police work\nis the differences in the missions.\n\nThe Police take names, try and find out what happened,\nstop suspects (thats the meaning of 'arrest') and\nturn them over to the custody of the Judicial Branch\nfor the adjudication of their case.\n\nThe Military's mission is to kill the enemy before\nthey can escape or surrender.\n\nchus\npyotr\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I was privelged enough to experience my first Volvo attack this weekend.\n\nI was last in a line of traffic that was about 6 vehicles long, riding\ndown Rt. 40 in Groton Ma.  At the side of the road, sitting off on the\nshoulder was the killer Volvo in question.  No brake lights, no turn signal,\nnothing.  We were doing about 40 mph and I was following the cage in front\nof me about 2.5-3 sec. back.  Well, as said cage passes the Volvo, the\nBrain Dead Idiot (tm) behind the wheel decides that she doesn't need to wait\nfor me to pass also and turns out perpendicular across both lanes of traffic\nso that she can turn around...  So I get on the brakes in a effort to not\nT-bone it, and the horn in an effort to wake the BDI up.  As she finishes\nthe turn, she looks up at me with a completely blank, uncomprehending\nstare.\n\nWhere can I get rocket launchers for the VFR?\n\nDean","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"It's gotta be an HBP.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nI don't think I've changed my stance at all.  My original stance was that\na painless execution was not a cruel one.  I didn't say what would be\nconsidered cruel, only that a painless death wasn't.  Now, cruelty must\ninvolve some sort of suffering, I believe.  I don't think someone that gets\nshot in the head or electrocuted really suffers very much.  Even a hanging\nprobably produces one sharp instance of pain, but it's over so quickly...\n\n\nPardon?\n\n\nNo.  Well, again I stated that a painless death isn't cruel, but I don't\nthink I stated that all painful executions *are* cruel.  I think that some\nare cruel, depending on the nature and duration of the pain.\n\n\nAnything more than an instant, I guess.  Any death by suffocation\nasphyxiation, or blood loss would be cruel, I think (this includes the\ngas chamber, and drawing and quartering).  I'd say that any pain that\nlasts, say, over twenty seconds or so would be too long (but this may\nbe an arbitrary cutoff, I suppose).","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nYou know, I'm a Ford fan, I must say, so I'm looking forward to the next\nMustang.  I have faith that it will be a fine product, more desireable\nthan the Camaro is now.  You know, that's MHO.  \n\nThe differences these days between Ford and GM are not so much the quality,\njust the philosophy.  It used to be quality _and_ philosophy.  GM is\nbarely catching up, but they have more room for improvement that\ncan only be made up in time.  STSs still come off the assembly line\nwith screwed up paint stripes and poor trunk\/door\/hood\/panel alignments;\nit's those 75 year old plants.  And the latest GM products still come\nwith the standard equipment RattleDash (tm).  But like I said, they're\ngetting better and making the move in the right direction.\n\nThey beat Ford to the market with the Camaro\/Firebird, but really only\nin words.  Production of these vehicles will be limited until the\nend of the year, keeping selling prices above MSRP for the most part\nsince there are so many twitching Camaro fans out there.  I wouldn't\npress Ford to hurry the Mustang since the final wait could be worth it.\nBesides, no bow-tie fanatic is gonna buy the Mustang anyway.\n\nI do not put much stock in the mag rags' \"inside\" information, or even\nFord rep quotes.  The Taurus was pretty much a surprise when it was\nfinally disclosed in it's entirety.  \"Inside\" information had the\nTaurus with a V8 and rear-wheel drive at one point.  I wouldn't look\nfor a simple re-paneled Mustang, folks; you may be cheating yourself\nif you do.  There's a lot of potential.  Ford hasn't released a new\ncar without a 4-wheel IS in 7 years.  The Mustang project has been\nbrewing for at least 4, right?  A 4-wheel IS could happen.  Those\nmodular V8's are out there, too.  In the interest of CAFE and\ncompetition, don't rule those out, either.   Your ignorant if you do.\nAnd there are so many spy shots and artist renderings out there,\nwho really knows what it'll look like?  The Mach III?  Doubt it.\nHighly.\n\nThe next Mustang will be Ford's highest profile car.  It attracts\nway more attention than the Camaro\/Firebird because it's heritage\nis more embedded in the general public.  Don't lie to yourself and\nbelieve Ford will forfeit that.\n\nI submit that the Mustang will be a success.  Enough to elicit\ndefensive remarks from some heavy Camaro fans here.  You know,\nintelligent, critical spews like, \"The Mustang bites, man!\"  Some of\nyou are already beginning.  I predict that the Mustang and Camaro\nwill be comparable performers, as usual.  I predict that the\ndifferences will be in subjective areas like looks and feel, as usual.\nThe Camaro is still a huge automobile; the Mustang will retain its\ncab-rearward styling and short, pony-car wheelbase.  The Camaro still\nreaches out to the fighter pilot, while the Mustang will appeal to\nthe driver.  The Camaro will still sell to the muscle car set, while\nthe Mustang will continue to sell to the college-degreed muscle car set.\nBoth will be more refined (I do think the Camaro is).  There will be\nno clear winner.\n\nUnless the Ford gets the 32v, 300hp Romeo.  You don't seriously believe\nthat it was designed for the Mark VIII only, do you?\n\n:^)\n\nRegards,\n\nBrian\n\nbqueiser@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu\n------------------------------------------------------------------------\nI am the engineer, I can choose K.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nI've been wondering about this myself.  The house wiring thing is really\nhokey.  There is no doubt that high pressure ultrasound is annoying, but to\nwhom?  Given that these devices have been advertised to be effective against\neverything from insects to rodents to nasty dogs, what is to say that my\ninsect repeller won't just annnoy my dog and give me headaches?  Could there\nbe that much selectivity in frequencies?  Have there been ANY studies\non the effects of various pressure levels, bands, and sweep patterns on\nvarious life forms?\n\nAnd how effective could they be?  I certainly would not want to tell anyone\nthat they are safe from nasty dogs because they were carrying a piezoelectric\nbuzzer...\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"OFFICIAL UNITED NATIONS SOUVENIR FOLDERS\n\nEach contains all the stamps issued for that year along with descriptive\ninformation regarding each issue. The stamps are mint never hinged. The\nRETAIL (not catalog) prices listed are from the leading United Nations\ndealer, Mike Armus. The stamps were issued for use by the U.N. offices\nin New York and Geneva Switzerland.\n\nPrice: TAKE 50% the current retail price for any folder. Take 10 or more\nfolders take 60% OFF the total. Take all 32 folders take 65% off the total.\nIn many cases these folders are priced at or below the face value of the\nstamps, particularly the Geneva ones.\n\nYEAR\tNew York\tGeneva\n----\t--------\t------\n1963\t$9.75\n1964\t$4.50\n1965\t$5.95\n1966\t$2.75\n1967\t$2.75\n1968\t$5.95\n1969\t$2.45\t\t$7.50\n1970\t$2.75\t\t$8.95\n1971\t$2.75\t\t$5.50\n1972\t$3.75\t\t$6.35\n1973\t$2.75\t\t$4.95\n1974\t$3.75\t\t$5.75\n1975\t$3.45\t\t$6.75\n1976\t$7.45\t\t$7.35\t\t\n1977\t$3.50\t\t$5.45\n1978\t$4.50\t\t$5.35\n1979\t$4.15\t\t$5.25\n1980\t$4.25\t\t$4.75\n1981\t$4.85\t\t$4.50\t\t\n\nShipping: Add 25 cents per folder to cover actual first class shipping cost.\nForeign orders, I will charge the actual shipping cost (airmail), let me\nknow how many folders you want.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Anyone have a phone number for Applied Engineering so I can give them\na call?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nSupernovae put out 10^53 or 10^54 (i forget which, but it's only an\norder of magnitude...).  Not in gamma rays, though.  You'd hafta get\nall of that into gammas if they were at 9 Mpc, but if a decent fraction\nof the SN output was in gammas it could reasonably be extragalactic \n(but closer than 9 Mpc).  I dunno SN theory so well, but I can't think\nof how to get many gammas out.  Maybe I should look it up.\n\nBig radio galaxies can put out 10^46 erg\/s *continually*.  That's just\nin the radio... there are a lot of gammas around them, too, but \"bursts\"?\nNah.\n\nNeither of these should be taken as explanations... just trying to show\nthat those energies *are* produced by things we know about.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nYes, but still not a 6502 for those differences.  Same instruction set,\nof course.\n\n\n\nYes, the same number, but an entirely different device.  I should have\nqualified this further by stating that this was the PAL version of the TIA -\nI am not 100% sure that the NTSC TIA would have a different number.\n\n\nDoes anyone on the net actually have details of the TIA, as this is the only\ndevice I have not yet discovered details about?  Atari Australia, when asked,\nclaimed that their attempts to get the programmers documentation for the 2600\nhad failed, as the US head office had refused to provide it.\n\n\nI saw a couple of cheaper devices with PN2222's and a couple of resistors\nhooked up as a cheap inverter.  Nasty, but workable, and cheaper than a\n7404 inverter if labor costs almost nothing.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nOnly problem is that Zombo was traded to St. Louis last year for goalie\nVincent Riendeau.\n\nI think that while Chevy is not among the elite class of goalies, he is\nadequate given the offensive firepower of the Wings.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"FOR SALE\n\nPC TOOLS VERSION 7.1\n\nAll original disks and manuals included.\n\n$50 or best offer\n\nPlease send replies to gt7187c@prism.gatech.edu\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I'd like to hear stories on experiences with the Hyundai Sonata.  I\nknow Consumer Reports has trashed them but the people I know that\nhave them swear by them.  They also haven't had the problems with\nthem that Consumer Reports claims.  I haven't driven one yet.  I\nhave driven a '93 Hyundai Elantra (which Consumer Reports also\ntrashed) and was very impressed with it.  The local Hyundai\ndealership (\"no-haggle\" policy) is offering an Elantra GLS w\/ power\nmoonroof for $13163.  They also have a Sonata base, w\/ Sunroof for\n$13997.  I know my preference is for a Sonata GLS w\/ sunroof and\n4-spd automatic.  I'll decide which engine I prefer after test\ndriving both the 4-cyl and the V6.  The Sonata is also offering a\n$1500 rebate.  Hmmm, that's another question.  Is the following\nscenario the appropriate manner to handle \"negotiation\"?\n\n1.  make offer\n2.  subtract rebate from offer\n3.  talk trade\n4.  subtract trade from offer to get final price\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nWhatever happened to uwm? Is it still available in some form? It's\nbeen years since I used it or heard anyone talk about it.\n-- ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nMichael J. Fox was on Letterman about a year ago (or two) during the \nplayoffs as a celebrity hockey player for the Bruins.  While he's not\nexactly a NHLer he did mention that the Bruins wanted to break Ulfie's\nlegs (or something like that) in response to the Neely incident.  It\nwas quite amusing, as one of the few Letterman viewers who actually knew\nwhat he was talking about.  Anybody know who the Pens celebrity hockey\nplayer is?  Michael Douglas (aka Michael Keaton)?","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"[some deleted]\n\nOne thing that seems ambiguous is whether a signal being echoed down from\ngeosynchronous orbit is \"...from outside the United States.\"\n\nAlso, being able to assess whether NSA is playing by the rules requires\nknowing what the rules are. We only know a subset. For those even more\nsuspicious, there could be other surveillance organizations \"blacker\"\nthan the NSA.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nDream machine quality ain't what it used to be\n\nKinetic Art did some great paint jobs on Bimotas. Don't know if they are still\naround.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I was just wondering if anyone new how I could get the BETA version of Windows\nNT, and be part of the BETA program.\n\n\n\nThanks\n\ngel@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I really think you are comparing apples and oranges. Nobody disputes\nthat OS\/2 has more big OS features. The question is Does an \nindividual need the power. The sales of Windows vs OS\/2 answer that\nquestion. The next question is even if I did want to run OS\/2\nand I had this big monster machine to run it on, is there a diverse\nset of applications to run on it that allow me to productviely do my\nwork. Go to your local computer store to answer this one.\nI think the comparison you need to be doing is NT vs OS2\/2.1. This\nis where the new battle lines will be drawn. Windows 3.1 has won\nthe single user PC war the next one will be the client server\nwar and the entries are NT, OS2\/2.1, UNIX and Netware 4.0.\nGranted these OS's will be eventually scaled down to be\nattractive to the single user PC and that will probably be phase II'\nof the war. Who wins only the marketplace will tell but it sure \nis fun watching and arguing about it tho.\nThx Dave L\n\n\n\n\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n Many thanks for the replies I received to this. A couple of people\nsuggested how I could get the paint package to work properly, but in the\nend I took the advice of someone else to try Paintshop Pro from\ncica.indiana.edu.\n\n Thanks again.\n\n--Philip\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"From article <1993May14.023220.1@vax1.tcd.ie>, by apryan@vax1.tcd.ie:\n\nHmmm... Atlantis left Eureca in a 28 degree orbit. Retrieving it is\ngoing to be *REALLY* fun if they fly to 57 degrees. Torque that \nCanadarm! :-)","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nI remember a simple program that would play those chimes for you when you\nclicked their respective buttons.  Does anyone know where that is?  This was\ncirca 1988, I think.\n\nCheers,\n-e.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nAnother name for this region is Cis-Jordan.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
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{"text":"# \n# >>   I am not aware of any such incidents.  \n# >\n# >\n# >> I've read most of the history books dealing with this period,\n# >> good and bad, and while it is possible that I missed one or two,\n# >> none of those I've read documents any razing of mosques. So I\n# >> think that this remarkable claim requires specific documentation.\n# >\n# >For the forgetful newcomers, here are the references.\n# >\n# >The reference I based my posting on originally is the book \"The West\n# >Bank Story\", by Rafik Halabi (New York: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich\n# >1982.  Original title: Die Westbank Story). \n# >\n# >Quoting from The West Bank Story, pages 35-36:\n# >\"On the night of June 10, an Israeli officer marched from door to door\n# >through the Moghrabi Quarter [of East Jerusalem] giving the residents\n# >three hours' notice to evacuate their homes. \n# >\n# >... [The participants in a\n# >July 24, 1967 meeting of a group of Arab relgious and political\n# >figures] protested the immodest dress of Israelis visiting the mosques\n# >and the destruction of two mosques in the Moghrabi Quarter adjacent to\n# >the Western Wall.\"\n# \n# This issue has been going on for a while and your presentation here of\n# just one reference probably won't resolve this issue to those that\n# oppose your insistence that mosques *were* destroyed. Even in your\n# location of this one reference, you spend most of your quote dealing\n# with an incidence that, while abhorrant, has nothing to do with the \n# issue at hand here. Then, at the end of the quote, there is an almost\n# off-hand comment that \"two mosques\" were destroyed.\n\n  Tim, you're missing the big sleight-of-hand here.  I can accept every\n  word quoted from Halabi and still have ZERO evidence of any mosques\n  being razed.  Note that what Halabi refers to is not that mosques\n  were razed but that people PROTESTED alleged razing.  Too well we\n  know that this is a common demagogic tactic (or has anyone forgotten\n  the Temple Mount riots, when the Moslem crowd was led to believe\n  that the Israeli Guards were there to cover for the TMF instead of\n  stop them?)","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"   >I wouldn't think so.  Asking people to trust a secret algorithm seems\n   >unsound to me.\n\n   Maybe so, but it's quite common. There are millions of Macintosh users who\n   have no idea what's in Apple's patented ROMs. Many have modems connected.\n   How do you know all your business secrets aren't being stolen? Answer:\n   1. Because you trust Apple;\n   2. Because if any such attempt, however sophicsticated, came out, it would\n   destroy Apple's credibility forever.\n\nThen there's also\n3) Because it's NOT SECRET.  If I want to, I CAN go look at Apple's\ncopyrighted ROMs in a Mac, so they're not keeping any secrets.  \nYou don't even have to pry the top off the chip and use an electron microscope,\nyou just have to read the data in memory and see if you can figure out what it means.\n(Motorola object code isn't all *that* obscure!)  \nYes, it's copyrighted, so I can't go selling copies, or using the copy myself,\nbut I CAN see it, and disassemble it.\n\n4) They're not asking me to trust their honesty.  They're asking me to\ntrust the quality of their assembly language programming :-),\nbut I can see for myself what the performance, price, and crashes\/day are.\nNSA, an organization not known for its honesty or openness, \nis asking me to trust them with my privacy, but they won't trust me.  Feh!","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Markus> NNTP-Posting-Host: samos.uni-paderborn.de\n\n\nMarkus> Hello everybody out there !\n\nMarkus> I'm trying to compile X11R5pl23 and Motif 1.2.1 on a HP running\nMarkus> HP-UX 8.05. But it' seems to be not very succesful, because \nMarkus> I have only hp.cf config-files for HP-UX 7.0. \n\nMarkus> I tried standard cc and X was compiled with a lot of warnings.\nMarkus> The motif applications are compiled quite well, but they won't run.\nMarkus> I receive the XKeysymDB error which is reported in FAQ, but\nMarkus> I cannot fix it. The XKeysymDB-file is at the right location and it\nMarkus> works fine under SunOS.\nMarkus> Probably I have started the compilation Prozess only with a wrong\nMarkus> config-file.\n\nMarkus> Please help me !\nMarkus>   \nMarkus> Thanx in advance \nMarkus>   Markus\n\nIf you installed X lib Xt by redefining ProjectRoot, you will find that\n during the install it recompiles one of the files in X lib that does the\nsearch for XKeysmDB and embeds the search path for the file based on whatever\nProjectRoot was defined. TO confirm this what happened, because I'm \nguessing, go to mit\/lib\/X and do\nstrings XStrKeySym.o | egrep XKeysymDB","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n\n   I know the roads up there in Minnesota are pretty bad, but I doubt that\nthey are THAT bad.  I've never realy tried to watch my back tyre but, my 82\nMaxim 750 will pull the front wheel off the ground if I pop the clutch.\nAdmittedly, it is easier with someone on back, maybe that's what keeps the\nrear tyre down.  ;-)\n  ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Here's a summary of Don Cherry's Coach's Corner from April 23, 1993.\nIt was taken from a tape delay of a Vancouver-Winnipeg game, but\nit was filmed during the Toronto-Detroit game that night. I think\nit was also shown during the Calgary-LA game. \n\n(Warning... Anti-fighting people may want to skip this post.)\n\nTopics\n------\n\nDon's Tie, Doug Gilmour, Wings\/Leafs, Quebec\/Montreal, Boston\/Buffalo,\nWendel Clark, Fighting and Stickwork.\n\nEpisode Summary\n---------------\n\nOnce again, the episode started with a shot of Don's tie... This\nwas a different tie than last time. Don pointed out some of the\ncharacters on the tie, but gave them different names... Felix the\nCat (Sylverster), Maclean (Daffy Duck), etc.\n\nRon Maclean asked Don what he thought of the current Wings-Leafs\ngame. Don thought it was good. Burns told the Leaf players \"They\nwon in their building, we're going to win in ours\".\n\nDon then began to praise Gilmour again. Don pointed out that Gilmour\nhas never got less than 2 points or a goal in any game since he\ngot 5 points in a game against St. Louis.  (Don also claims that\nhe gave a lot of encouragement to Gilmour, which was partly responsible\nfor his good play.) Several clips were then shown of Gilmour\nfrom the series... A hit on Constantinov, and a pass to Andrewchuk\nresulting in a goal.\n\nOn the game itself, the Wings were taking a lot of penalties in\nthe first period. The Wings have enough talent to score short handed\nhowever, and when the Leafs get a power play, Coach Burns tells\nthe Leaf players \"Don't let them score on you\".\n\nRon brought up the previous Quebec-Montreal game. [Note: Montreal\nwon that game in overtime, despite having a possible game winner\ndisqualified because it was batted in with a high stick.] Don\nthought the high stick was obvious, even without the use of\ninstant replay.\n\nOn the Buffalo-Boston series [Note: Buffalo is currently winning\nthe series 3-0], Don gave full credit to Goaltender Grant Fuhr.\nFuhr should be getting 1\/2 the team's playoff checks for his\nplay.\n\nWendel Clarke has recently been criticized for his performance\nduring the Detroit-Toronto series. Don defended him, by saying\nthat he can't play the way he should, because of the league's\nnew rules. \"This used to be a rough and tough league... Now its\nall hack and slash.\" Don lays the blame on Gil Stien for the\nproblems.\n\nDon's opinions on fighting and stickwork are shared by Wings\nGM and coach Bryan Murray. A clip from a news conference by Murray\nwas shown, in which Murray made statements claiming the elimination\nof fighting increases stickwork. Don also read a newspaper article\nin which Murray makes the following statements: \"Players don't fight\nbecause they're afraid of getting thrown out of the game as instigator.\nInstead, they settle grudges by getting their sticks and slicing\neach other. Is this what the fans want to see? I guarantee there\nwouldn't be as many slashes if fighting were kept in the game.\"\n\nDon warned league commisioner Gary Bettman to \"smarten up\" with\nfighting in hockey. He went on to say that before, there used\nto be one guy cut with a high stick in a series. Now, with no fights,\nsomeone gets cut every period.\n\nRating\n------\nTypical anti-fighting posturing, but here Don's opinion is supported\nby Murray.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nAnyone claiming that 1500 \"real watts\" isn't possible in a mobile should\ndig through their back issues of 73 (and, I think, QST) for a description\nof the mobile installation of that most revered of OMs, W6AM.  As I recall,\nthis included a Heath 1kW (DC in) amp (what was that model number...SB-\nsomething....  my mind is turning to the usual Friday mush...) and was run \nfull-out CW fairly regulary.  The car's electrical system had been modified, \nincluding a rather seriously-heavy-duty alternator, but such an installation \nHAS been done, and so IS possible.  This installation was the source of\nthe legendary story of W6AM sitting in the car, and paging his wife over the\ndepartment store PA systems!\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n[ 2 good reasons deleted.  AI]\n\n\nIt's even worse than that --\n\n\"Ye shall not add unto the word which I \ncommand you, neither shall ye diminish \nfrom it\" (Deut. 4:2).\nShall we rip out every page from our \nBibles beginning from Joshua through\nRevelation?","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nImagine, you have been under seige for almost two months by an enemy which you\nbelieve wants to kill you.  Suddenly, they pump tear gas into your building and\npunch holes in it with tanks.  Then a fire breaks out.  Do you run outside to\nbe slaughtered, or stay and face your fate.\n\nCheck Ethiopia vs. Italy in WWII for some answers to that question.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Did anyone see the Montreal - Quebec game yesterday?  It was tight right down\nto the last second of the third period.  In the overtime Roy and Hextall played\nlike they were gods.\n  Ok, so Montreal won!  They deserved it after getting their first goal in\novertime waved off because the puck was hit in with a high stick.  Their second\ngoal in overtime was also replayed, but I could not tell if it was the Montreal\nplayer who kicked it in.  The puck definitely was not directed in by a stick.\nAnyways, Montreal is back into the series.\n\n\n\n\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
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{"text":"\n\nWHY!!! DC\/Baltimore is one of the top media markets (=the only thing the NHL\nseems to care about these days), they've been doing far better than the NBA\nBullets at the gate for the last five years. The team has been a perennial\ncontender and fan support has been good to excellent . . . Why should Pollin\nmove to city that's five times smaller but has as many teams in other pro\nsports. I don't get it...  \n ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nEither I've just fallen for this, or you guys\nare _really_ paranoid!\n\nYou're actually worried about somebody stealing \nyour oil?\n\nC'mon, you think a vandal'll do that?!\n\nThat's absolutely ridiculous!\n\nBesides, how hard is it to get under the car to \nchange the oil?\n\nI can say from experience on the cars that I've driven and\nchanged the oil on, my Mazda 323 is pretty much a pain, but\nonce you've done it once, you don't forget how, and it\ngets easier.\n\nI can't imagine any other cars are much worse than mine.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"We're looking at various X11 clients for PC's and we're looking for some\ninformation about the relative efficiency of different products.  Are any\nnotably efficient (fast)?  Are any notably inefficient?  I assume that a\nGraphics Accelerator makes them significantly faster (right now I'm looking\nat ico running on Xoftware\/32 for Windows sitting on the Distinct TCP\/IP\nplatform, and it's (not surprisingly) much slower than ico running on the\nSparc10's console.  What are the key ways of improving performance for\nPC (presumably Windows) clients?\n\nAlso, what about async solutions?  (Yes, I appreciate that it will be \n*much* slower even with V.42bis.)  I'm in the process of installing PPP\n(with header compression).  How does that compare to cslip?  I've seen\na product called XRemote by NCD that promises to be pretty efficient, but\nare there comparable products out there?  If we're looking for efficiency\nfor async, PC clients, what should we be looking at in addition to standard\nPPP w\/ compression and XRemote?\n\nAny information would be greatly appreciated.  I'm still taking in all\nthe information in the faq, but any tips about the relative efficiency\nof various product offerings would be great.  (I get the impression\nthat discussions about speed are largely application specific, but\nthat not withstanding, any comments would be appreciated.)  Thanks.\n\n-- Rob","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n   Jung may have said that, but he was in no way speaking for the\nCatholic Church.  The dogma of the Assumption in no way means Mary is\nconsidered to be God or part of \"the Godhead.\"  Therefore it implies no\nsuch thing about the feminine in general.\n\n   Also Jung's statement makes it sound as though the dogma was\nannounced \"out of the blue.\"  This also is incorrect, as dogma is only\nthe formulation of what has always been part of Tradition.  This dogma\nhas always been believed, but was not formally defined until the\nAssumption was declared as an _ex cathedra_ statement.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nI got several answers, the most complete was from Errol Crary \n(errolc@tv.tv.Tek.com):\n\n                             Thanks for your help\n\n                                   Karsten\n-- ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I believe the interstates were origionally funded as part of a national \ndefense plan etc.  The  requirements were to move heavy army trucks at \n70mph.\n\nStill its amazing in Germany you can have cars traveling 155 mph and 65 mph \non the same 3 to 4 lane road.  Around Washington DC they can't keep traffic \nflowing at 55.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nPrimarily milage.  Gas is much more expensive, so people are very\nconcerned about it taking a few more liters per kilometer.  This,\nalong with narrow old cities, also results in smaller cars with\nsmaller engines.  These engines usually don't have the torque to mesh\nwell with an automatic.  So, having engines that don't work well with\nautos, and a great concern for milage, the usual Euro-car has a\nmanual.\n\n(Note that not many big Benzes come with manuals.  If you've got the\nmoney for the car, you've got the money for the gas, and the engine to\ndrive through the slushbox.)\n\nAs automatics become more efficient, the \"bigotry\" is probably\nreduced.  Still, everyone knows how to drive a manual, and cars are\ncheaper with one, and it saves a little expensive fuel.  So there\naren't compelling reasons to go automatic.\n\n-dB\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nThere are various contradictory views on the origin of the Armenians.\nThe name is to be found in the Darian inscriptions in the form 'Armina'\nor 'Aramaniya' is to be found in the inscription on the Bistun monument.\nThe following references to the Armenians are to be found in the Bistun\ncuneiform inscription of Dara Vishdasb (510 B.C.).\n\n\n 6. On reaching Arminam 'Armeniya'.\n\n 7. To the country town of Zozo, to Armaniya 'Armeniya'.\n\nAccording to Karakashian:\n\nAs for 'Armenia', the equivalent of the 'Armin' or 'Arminik' of the Persians,\nthis is more recent than the word 'Ararat', and is to be found used in\nthe Dara inscriptions for 'Haiastan'.  \n\nSaint Martin:\n\nThe name 'Armenie' has been given since very early times by almost all\nthe various eastern peoples to the territory referred to by the Armenians\nas 'Haiastan'. It was known to the Syrians as Armenia and to the Arabs\nas Ermeniyye.\n \nOthers believe that Urartu was known in the time of the Medes as 'Harminap'\nwhich was later modified by the Persians to 'Arminia'. 'Ar' refers to a\nplace, as in Ararat, Archish, Aruyr, Archar, Arshav, Arazen and Aror, \nwhile 'men' is used to refer to spirit, thought or human being, and \ntherefore 'Armen' would appear to signify 'the people of that place'.\n\nG. Alishan believes that 'according to our national vocabulary \"Haik\"\nis the diminutive form of \"Hai\", and that \"Hai\" is the name of our\nnation. Our nation is in no way connected with the word \"Armen\" that\nforeigners apply to our people.'\n\nIt would thus appear that 'Armenia' is a place-name, that 'Armen' is \nthe name of the people who lived there, and that these are in no way\nconnected with the word 'Hai'.\n\nHaik and Haiastan:\n\nArmenian historians believe Haik to have been a great hero from whom\nthe Armenian people took the name 'Hai'. But the mere resemblance\nbetween the words 'Haik' and 'Hai' constitutes no real proof, and,\nin any case, no such theory appears before the time of Moses of\nKhoren.\n\nHaiasa:\n\nThe following studies show quite clearly that 'Hai' and 'Haiasa' were\nno more than general names used by the Hittites to refer to the \nregion known as Armenia.\n\nProfessor Hachadurian: 'Haiasa was the general name used in Hittite\ninscriptions for Upper Armenia.'\n\nYensen, in his 'Hittites and Armenians' tries to prove that 'Hai' is\nidentical with the Hittite 'Hatio', in other words that 'Hai' is a\nHittite word. Research, however, has proved this erroneous, and shown\nthat 'Hai' was derived from 'Hatio'.\n\nMortman's attempt to read the Urartu inscriptions as Armenian met with \nno success. As for Greek, there is no point in even mentioning it.\n\nThe resemblance between the words 'Haiasa' and 'Haiastan' is so obvious\nthat we may well accept 'Haiasa' as the oldest form of 'Haiastan'.\n\nLet us now cast a brief glance on how the words 'Hai', 'Haikazan' and\n'Haiastan' entered our older works.\n\nAccording to Karakashian: \n\n'The word \"Haik\" is never to be found employed with reference to a\nleader of the Armenian people prior to Moses of Khoren, nor is it\never found employed in the forms \"Haika\" or \"Haykazn\".\n\nAgahangelos and Puzant use the word as a title or a place-name (he\nimproved and developed Haiastan, etc.). If the word had referred\nto a nation and had been derived from \"Hai\" or \"Haik\" they could \nalso have used the words \"Haikak\" and \"Haykazn\" in a number of\nplaces.'\n\nAccording to Professor Sayce, who deciphered a number of Hittite \ninscriptions:\n\n'In the Hittite language the suffix -ha is used to specify quality\nor species. The words \"Haddanas\", \"Haddina\" were used by the \nAssyrians to refer to the Hittites. With the transformation of the\n\"d\" between the two \"a\" letters to \"y\" \"Hadinasdani\" was in this\nway transformed to \"Haiastan\"'.\n\nProfessor Grechmer fully agrees with this point of view, but regards\nthe significance and explanation so far accorded to the terms 'Hai'\nand 'Haistan' as quite unsatisfactory. He finds, however, that a \nsolution to this problem is brought nearer by the name 'Haiasa' \nwhich is so frequently found in Bogazkoy from 1400 B.C. onwards.\nForrer takes 'Haiasa' as referring to Upper Armenia. In that case\nit seems likely that 'Haiasa' was actually a part of Armenia. The\nsuffix -dan is of Anatolian origin. The real root is 'Hayasa', which\nrefers to the country of the 'Hayasas'.\n\nE. Chantre writes as follows on the subject of the ethnological \nand Anthropological characteristics of the Armenian people.\n\nThe Armenians in Russia may be characterized as follows: Almost\nall of them are brachycephalic or leptocephalic, very dark,\nabove average height, an Aissores Asian group with close ties\nwith certain Kurdish tribes and Azerbaijan peoples.\n\nAccording to J. Deniker:\n\nFrom the philological point of view, the Armenian and Kurds may be\nregarded as belonging to the Iranian group...The Armenians are \ndescended from various elements and from a very mixed race. Their\naverage height varies between 1.63 and 1.69 according to the region.\nThey are almost always short-headed, with skull measurements of \n85-87. As a race they belong to the Indo-Afghan-Assyrian-Turkic\nfamily.\n\nProfessor Rene Vernont writes as follows:\n\nThe Armenians are a mixture of Semites, Turk, Kurds and Mongols,\nbut some of them display Armenian features, e.g., height a little\nabove average, fair complexion, dark hair, dark eyes, very often\na hooked nose and a rather wide mouth. \n\nInvestigations carried out by N. Kossovitch on the links between\nArmenian blood groups and their anthropological characteristics\nled him to the conclusion that the Armenians did not form a \ndistinct race.\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"<\n<>OW 3.0 is the same.  But, the definition of broken is relative.  Pageview\n<>requires DSC compliant PostScript files, in order to stop at page breaks.\n<>I don't consider that broken.  I say that any program that puts out a\n<>PostScript file that isn't DSC compliant is broken.\n<\n<Well that may be true.  However, the man page for pageview for OW 2.0\n<does not mention about DSC compliance.  In any event, the point here\n<is that if you try to display some PS files using pageview you will\n<find out that it's not a practical tool.\n\nIt is true that the man page for pageview does not say that the files need\nto be DSC compliant.  That is the fault of the left hand not knowing what the\nright hand is doing at Sun.  I was informed by a Sun employee that the pageview\nprogram does require DSC compliant PostScript.  There was the possibility that\nit was going to be changed so that if the file wasn't DSC compliant that it\nwould stop at each showpage.  I believe that this method would preclude being\nable to go backwards and forwards through the file, i.e., you could only go\nforward to the next showpage.  This isn't in OW3.0 pageview, but maybe it is\nin the Solaris 2.x version of OW (OW 3.1?).\n\nIn any event, I find pageview extremely useful.  Since all of the PostScript\nthat I produce IS DSC compliant, I don't have any problems.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I agree! Rob Shick sucks big time.  He did the same thing last night's game \nbetween Boston & Buffalo.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nNo, the thing is designed to be retrievable, in a pinch.  Indeed, this\ndictated a rather odd design for the solar arrays, since they had to be\nretractable as well as extendable, and may thus have indirectly contributed\nto the array-flapping problems.\n\nThe retrieval problems are exactly as stated:  it would be costly, would\ninvolve extensive downtime (and the worry of someone finding a reason not\nto re-launch it), and would unnecessarily expose the telescope to a lot\nof mechanical stresses and possibilities for contamination.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\tIn the Boston area, you can hear the Rangers on WFAN and the Devils\non WABC, the Whalers on WTIC and the Red Wings on WJR. This of course is in\naddition to the Bruins who are currently on WEEI but may move to WHDH because\nthe fools at WEEI are owned by the Celtics and thus will show them over the\nBruins every time there is a conflict. You can also get WBAL Baltimore but\nI don't think they have hockey. BTW, I once got a station from Indiana that\nhad Fort Wayne Comets games.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Hi everyone,\n      I'm experiencing a very annoying problem with background printing\non the HP Deskwriter (Sys 7.1, Deskwriter driver 3.1, PowerBook 170).\nWhen I print from, say, MS Word, I see the message \"Spooling to disk,\"\nbut sometimes nothing prints. Checking my memory map thanks to Now Menus,\nI see that HP Backgrounder has not loaded. Restarting fixes this. It\nseems to me that HP Backgrounder is quitting unexpectedly, and that its\nstatus as \"Multifinder NOT aware\" allows it to do this without my being\ninformed by a message such as \"HP Backgrounder quit unexpectedly.\" Have\nyou ever seen this problem before.\n        There may or may not be a related problem. I have experienced\nproblems in putting my computer to sleep. Choosing \"sleep\" from the\nFinder menu sometimes does nothing. Today on a whim I checked the memory\nmap, and I discovered that HP backgrounder was not loaded. Restarted\nreloaded HP backgrounder, and I was able to put my machine to sleep as\nusual. Just a mere coincidence or is the HP backgrounder crash preventing\nmy machine from going to sleep?\n\tHas anyone seen this problem? I'm seriously considering the purchase of\na StylewriterII because of the poor quality of the HP software. ","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":" vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv  VVVVVVVVVV\n\nGetting close there!","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nThe problem is that you imagine him inside this huge wall, unable\nto see reality. While he imagines the same about you. Clearly we\nhave a case where relativity plays a big role concerning looking\nat opposite frames of reality.\n\nCheers,\nKent","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"And do not set your heart on what you will eat or drink; do not worry about it.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"joe, i'm sorry you felt i was pissing on your list.  no disparagement\nwas intended and i would be most interested to know what i said that\nmade you feel that way.  i am not suggesting that your list is\nsuperflous nor that it will not serve a need.  i just would like not\nto see the boxer contingent split, but there is certainly enough net\nfor more than one list.\n-- \n-- bob pasker\n-- rbp@netcom.com","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n: \t\n:         Hello,\n\n:         Just one quick question:\n:         My father has had a back problem for a long time and doctors\n:         have diagnosed an operation is needed. Since he lives down in\n:         Mexico, he wants to know if there is a hospital anywhere in\n:         the United States particulary famous for this kind of surgery,\n:         kind of like Houston has a reputation for excellent doctors\n:         in eye surgery. Any additional info or pointers will be\n:         appreciated a whole lot!...\n\nThere is one hospital that is here in New York City that is famous for its\northopedists, namely the Hospital for Special Surgery. They are located on\nthe upper east side of manhattan. If you want their address and phone let\nme know, i'll get them, i dont know them off hand.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nHere in Australia most cars are manual (privately owned anyway).  Why?\nNot sure, I think it has something to do with the fact that our car industry\nin the past was more closely aligned with Europe than the US in the past.\nNow it's aligned with Asia.\n\nScott.\n_______________________________________________________________________________\nScott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au]  PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272).                \n                                                             _--_|\\       N\nDepartment of Psychology                                    \/      \\    W + E\nUniversity of Western Australia.      Perth [32S, 116E]-->  *_.--._\/      S\nNedlands, 6009.  PERTH, W.A.                                      v       \n\nJoy is a Jaguar XJ6 with a flat battery, a blown oil seal and an unsympathetic \nwife, 9km outside of a small remote town, 3:15am on a cold wet winters morning.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n    Actually Judea and Samaria are proper geographical names, just like \n    Asia Minor or Lake Michigan. Judea and Samaria are even used in \n    an atlas published in (what used to be) USSR circa 1970 that I have at\n    home. The government of the USSR was of course quite hostile towards\n    Israel and would hardly engage in a pro-Israel propaganda. I would be\n    willing to mail a photocopy of the relevant page to Mr. Schmidling \n    with relevant words underlined to simplify his search, if he promises\n    to report to the net afterwards.\n\nMr. Schmidling is to be congtatualted for being living exception to this\ngeneral rule. For although he is almost without peer in both the number\nof lies posted and in the number of times he repeats them --- he hasn't \nfound many people who believe his lies (yet ?).\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Astronomy & Space magazine's UK telephone newsline carries the times to\nsee the Russian Space Station Mir which will be visible every EVENING (some\ntime between 9 o'clock and midnight) from April 27 to May 7. It's about as\nbright as Jupiter at its best. There are two cosmonuats on board.\n\nFor the time to watch, tel. 0891-88-19-50 (48p\/min peak 36p\/min all other\ntimes, but prediction is at start of the weekly message so it only costs a\nfew pence).\n\nE-mail reports of sightings would be appreciated: give lat\/long and UT (a\nfew seconds accuracy if possible) when it passes ABOVE or BELOW any bright\nstar (say brighter than mag. 3), planet or Moon.\n\nWith Moon in evening sky also, note that from somewhere in U.K. Mir will\npass in front of the Moon each night! Please alert local clubs to the\ntelephone newsline, and general public as Mir can cause quite a stir!\n\n-Tony Ryan, \"Astronomy & Space\", new International magazine, available from:\n              Astronomy Ireland, P.O.Box 2888, Dublin 1, Ireland.\n6 issues (one year sub.): UK 10.00 pounds, US$20 surface (add US$8 airmail).\nACCESS\/VISA\/MASTERCARD accepted (give number, expiration date, name&address).","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":": THe limit on space-walking is a function of suit supplies (MASS)\n: and Orbiter Duration.   \n\n: In order to perform the re-boost of the HST, the OMS engines\n: will be fired for a long period.  Now the shuttle is a heavy\n: thing.  THe HST isn't light either.  THe amount of OMS fuel\n: needed to fly both up is substantial.   a small booster\n: carried up and used to boost HST on it's own will weigh significantly\n: less then the OMS fuel required to Boost  both HST and SHUttle,\n: for a given orbital change.  \n\n: From what i understand,  the mass margins on the HST missions are\n: tight enough they can't even carry extra Suits or MMU's.\n\n: pat\n\nI haven't seen any specifics on the HST repair mission, but I can't see why\nthe mass margins are tight.  What are they carrying up?  Replacement components\n(WFPC II, COSTAR, gyros, solar panels, and probably a few others), all sorts of\ntools, EVA equipment, and as much OMS fuel and consumables as they can.  This\nshould be lighter than the original HST deployment mission, which achieved the\nhighest altitude for a shuttle mission to date.  And HST is now in a lower \norbit.  \n\nSeems like the limiting factors would be crew fatigue and mission complexity.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"The 200CD is one of three oscillators that HP made many years ago. \n(The others were the Low Frequency Oscillator and the Wide Range \nOscillator.) These are the ones with the 7\" diameter chrome dial,\na Wein Bridge circuit that used pilot lights as the feedback loop,\nand firebottles that produced many volts of output.\n\nI've just acquired a pair of these venerable old beasts. \nThe non-working one, SN 605, (owned by Crosley Radio at one point!)\nneeds help. I know I can likely buy a microfiche copy of the book \nfrom HP, but that costs.... and considering I paid a dollar for\nthe pair in the rain at the Dayton Hamvention;-}","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nThere's nothing wrong with a red neck.  Why, some of us hicks even\nlisten to cultured music and such, can you say the same?  Aside from\nthat, you shouldn't try to shit on this guy by insulting where YOU\nthink he comes from.  Where I'm from, we milk cows, drive trucks, and\nyes, even like baseball.  So screw anyone that doesn't like it.\n\nOh yeah, learn the difference between to and too city-boy! (see below)\n\n\t-thom\n\t unnumbered wanna-be member of the Bob Knepper Fan Club (BKFC)\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nBob, sex is already ALL OVER baseball!  Do you think those uniforms\ncan get ANY TIGHTER??\n\nTodd Hundley's could be, I suppose; he seems to favor the\nCarlton Fisk baggy-pants style.  Very unfortunate.  Todd, word to the\nwise: if ya got it, flaunt it!","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nLets see... what MS products don't have major bugs in them?  Oh, but\nthe fifth release the bugs are generally cleared up, even if their\ncustomers must buy new \"releases\" from them that are little more than\nbug fixes.  Anyone who buys a $2500 computer system and then runs MS\nWindows on it is in desperate need of sympathy.  \n\nOh wait! MS innovated the plastic housing on the MS mouse---didn't\nthey?  \"Logitech Inside\"\n\n\n\nYou can't even really call it secondary creativity when a company\ngathers together a bunch of knock-off packages and peddles them to\nneophytes.  If MS does anything, it appears someone has to do it\nfirst.  It appears that MS is finding out that throwing money at\ntechnological problems is by no means a guaranteed solution.\n\n\n ---------------------------------------------","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Let's discuss Reno's taking full responciblity. Is everyone happy with the \noutcome? Did the FBI pursue the correct course of action? was justice done?\nIf Reno really meant what she said she would resign! She is just grand\nstanding, period. What did those people do wrong in the first place? that is\nwhat i can't figure out. sure they were crazy, no dought about it, but what did \nthey do wrong? someone please help me out on this.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nI don't think the two main free X systems ( XS3 and XFree86 ) are part\nof the FSF as such.\n\n\nDoes anyone know of an e-mail address for Diamond to which Penio could\nforward his purchase information?\n\n\nGuy","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":":When I was a school boy, my biology teacher told us of an incident\n:in which a couple were very passionate without actually having\n:sexual intercourse.  Somehow the girl became pregnent as sperm\n:cells made their way to her through the clothes via persperation.\n:\n:Was my biology teacher misinforming us, or do such incidents actually\n:occur?\n\nSounds to me like someone was pulling your leg.  There is only one way for\npregnancy to occur: intercourse.  These days however there is also\nartificial insemination and implantation techniques, but we're speaking of\n\"natural\" acts here.  It is possible for pregnancy to occur if semen is\ndeposited just outside of the vagina (i.e. coitus interruptus), but that's\nabout at far as you can get.  Through clothes -- no way.  Better go talk\nto your biology teacher.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"For sale:\n\nMac IIfx with the following config -->\n\n20MB's RAM\n400MB 3.5\" Hard Drive\n2 -1.44MB floppy drives\nExtended keyboard\nMouse\nApple 8bit video card\n\n$2,500.00 or best offer!\n\nAll you need is a monitor to complete this system.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Hi there,\n\nI'm looking for tools that can make X programming easy. \nI would like to have a tool that will enable to create X motif\nGUI Interactivly. Currently I'm Working on a SGI with forms.\nA package that enables to create GUI with no coding at all \n(but the callbacks). \nAny help will be appreciated.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Actually, the Quadra 900 and 950 both have the same SCSI controller,            (running at different speed).  They are not SCSI 2, but can support\ncertain SCSI commands that take advantage of faster drives.  The\nI\/O processors are present on both machines.  The Q950 runs its\nI\/O bus at 25MHz, while the 900's I\/O bus is 16MHz.\n\nThe Quadra 950 supports 16bit color on all monitor sizes, as well\nas 24bit up to 832 x 624 resolution.  It also supports 1024 x768\nresolution.  The 900 supports supports 8bit at 1152 x 870, and\ndoes not support 1024 x 768 at all.\n\nVRAM on the 950 is 80ns or faster, and 100ns or faster on the 900.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nBzzt. Thank you for playing.\n\nYou're confusing the puritans\/pilgrims with the founding fathers.\nDifference of ~150 years and a much different culture...\n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I have been looking over the postings about the Clipper Chip and noticed\nan interesting omission from the discussion.\n\nYou all mention that the algorithm is classified and have expressed \nconcerns and ideas of how to figure out the algorithm using software.\n\nThe question that I have is why cant someone take one of these chips\nand reverse engineer it? I mean, take the thing to a chip testing\/\nanalysis facility, one with a decent electron microscope. Just pry\noff the top of the chip and start scanning it with the electron\nmicrocope and figure out the circuitry. I remembered a place that I use\nto work for had one of these facilities that they used to analyze chips\nthat we accidently blew out while running tests. They could actually find\nthe area that was fried and show us where in the circuit it was. \n\nI am sure that many companies and universities must have these facilities\nand that the potential is there, especially at a university where the\nsecurity at such a facility is looser, for someone to take a clipper\napart and analyze it?\n\nWhat can the government do to prevent this? Start taking away all \nmicrochip analysis facilities and electron microscopes??","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nHow wrong you will be.  I participated in the last National March on  \nWashington (MOW) for LesGayBi rights (Oct 11, 1987) - with a turnout of  \nabout 750,000 people - and we didn't have alot pissing us off at the time.   \nThe big issue was the AIDS crisis, but we weren't being slapped around  \nquite as bad as we are now.  This time its AIDS, and Equal Rights,  and  \nthe Military Squabble.  And this MOW has been in the planning for YEARS  \nwhereas the last one was pulled together in a relatively short time.  The  \nlast MOW was the largest ever on D.C. and you can bet we are going to  \nexceed that by a long shot.  I truly believe we will exceed the 1.0  \nmillion goal the MOW committee has always had set for this event.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\tI heard that there is a VESA driver for the XGA-2 card available on \ncompuserve. I just got this card, and I am wondering if this driver is \navailable on a FTP site anywhere. My news service has beeen erratic lately so\nplease E-Mail me at:\n\t\t\t\twalsh@stolaf.edu\n\tThanks in advance. \n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nI have found that you should observe the following with almost all new\nequipment :\n\nCheck for warrany tape.  If none, carefully open unit.\n\nInspect for loose wires, jumpers, screws, and other trash.\n\nClean up these manufacturing mistakes.\n\n*Now* power up the unit and check it out.\n\nI can't think of how many things I've bought that weren't okay right out of\nthe box due to sloppy QC.\n\n- Jonathan\n\nPS : This goes for any manufacturer.  I'm not picking on anyone.\n\n-- \n Internet: musjndx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu      Fidonet: Jonathan Deitch@1:133\/411.7\n           jdeitch@gisatl.fidonet.org   Bellnet: 1 - (404) - 261 - 3665         -----------------------------------------------------------------------------  \nAtlanta 1996 !! | Play Pinball !! | Don't Panic ! | \"I hate it when I can't\n--------------------------------------------------| trust my own technology!\"\n\"Thrills!  Chills!  Magic!  Prizes!\" -- Hurricane |    -- Geordi LaForge","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"  Due to a discussion on this group some time ago, the theists would\n  more likely take an Asimov quote out of context and paint him as\n  the biggest Bible thumpin', God fearin', atheist hatin' christian\n  you ever laid eyes on.  Right up there with Einstein.\n\n\n\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\ \n\nBob Beauchaine bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM \n\nThey said that Queens could stay, they blew the Bronx away,\nand sank Manhattan out at sea.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Does anyone have any information on the Polaroid Palette system. It appears to\nbe a gadget for transfering graphics images to film. Does anyone have any detail\nabout it like the maximum supported resolution or types of video input????\n\nWhat did Polaroid market them as?????\n\n\n\nFletch","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nYes, but\n\n\t(a) we were talking about peak level, not career averages\nand\n\t(b) Clemente was the best fielding RF of all time, as far\n\t    as anyone can tell\n\nI did a quick scan last night, looking for players with a peak comparable\nto or better than Winfield.  In my quick-n-dirty subjective judgement, you\ncould make good cases for Ruth, Aaron, Ott, Robinson, Clemente, Kaline, \nMaris, Klein, Jackson, Waner, and probably a few others.  This is not a\nknock on Winfield, but a comment on his consistency: all of those other\nplayers had awesome stretches and very good stretches, while Winfield has\nbeen more uniformly excellent.  Hall of Fame?  Absolutely.  Top-10 peak?\nI'm not so sure.  Top 10 total career value?  Yes, almost certainly.\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Alan \"All in all, it's just another\" Sepinwall writes...\n\n\n\tI agree.  However, I have to object.  Growing up in the early\n1980's and playing 2 years of Mario Mendoza-esque Little League, I was\ntold that since my hitting, well, sucked, I would do best to either\n\"Walk, or take one in the face for the team\".  I did both.  And, my\nYankee fan father would say, \"Bat like Oscar Gamble\".  So I did.  And my\ncareer OBP was about .550.\n\tNot only was Oscar a fun guy to watch, but he had some pretty \ncool baseball cards and helped me become one of the best little league\nplayers in history.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"What is the real story here? Can I hook up any PC SVGA Montitor to the\nCentris internal video? Do I need to make my own cable if it doesn't not\ncome with one? Has apple released a Tech note with the pinouts for doing\nsuch? The reasoj I ask is that it seems the prices for SVGA are lower than\nthat of their mac counterparts...\n--mike\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Has anyone ever heard of the X Professional Organization?  Is anyone a member?\nIs the membership worth the $100 or so that they charge?","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Not to change the subject, but how was Fr. Gobbi allowed at Notre Dame?  Notre\nDame is an anti Catholic University.  Was this allowed to show that the\ncrackpots at Notre Dame believe in freedom of speech?  I am glad that they did\nallow him to speak.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nLike non-Sudafed cold medicines?  1\/2 :-) ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\t\t\t\t\t\t^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\t\t    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\n\tIf JD Power and Associates did the survey, I would like an \n\tanonymous ftp site to pick it up at.  Only a sucker believes\n\tan MS released survey results about an MS product.  Ok--assume\n\tthat the results of the survey, whatever they are, are 100%\n\thonest.  If the results indicated extreme dissatisfaction with\n\tthe product, is MS going to tell us to stop buying MS-DOS 6.0\n\tbecause it sux? :-)  Sure....\n\n\n\tWell, these \"statistics\" are to shut people up and add some\n\tmicroscopic weight to MS' arguments.  As I just said, you have\n\tseen what automakers do.  Who is going to believe Chrysler if\n\tthey tell us, \"In a 'random' Chrysler-conducted survey...\"\n\tMy theory about certain people is that they are convinced that\n\tif a point is maintained long enough, it is true.  After all,\n\twhat is the focus of this company?  Information.  Money and\n\tinformation.  Technology is, for some, an expedient toward\n\tthese ends.  Why did Bill Gates drop out of college?  \n\tWas it because he couldn't afford it at the time?  Was it\n\tbecause (as the WSJ says) he couldn't wait to use what he\n\tknew to go out and make money?  Bill Gate's answer to this\n\tquestion would be highly interesting.  I await it.\n\tI can't stomach Bill declaring himself a visionary and\n\tusing every available opportunity to build up the cult\n\taround himself and then having MS sell DOS and Windoze\n\tas their main stays.  \n\n\n ---------------------------------------------","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nI'm most of the way through adding a grammar for parsing the #if expressions.\nI don't know when I'll be able to get back to it; you're welcome to what I \nhave so far. I haven't looked at other versions of makedepend, which may solve\nthe problem more elegantly.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\ncheck prep.ai.mit.edu.  It's called fax-3.2.1.tar.Z or something to\nthat effect and is the software for netfax. Be forewarned that it\nrequires (at the moment) a fairly costly $450 fax modem with certain\ncapabilities to use it.\n\t","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I am quite near sighted.\n\nI've recently received laser treatment for both eyes to seal\nholes in the retinas to help prevent retinal detachment. In my\nleft eye a small detachment had begun already and apparently the\nlaser was used to \"weld\" this back in place as well.\n\nMy right eye seems fine. In my left eye I was seeing occasional\nflashes of bright light prior to the treatment. Since the\ntreatment (two weeks) these flashes are now occuring more often\n- several each hour.\n\nThe opthamologist explained the flashes are caused because the\nvitreous body has attached to the retina and is pulling on it. He\nsays this is not treatable and he hopes it may go away on its own\naccord - if it tugs enough I may well face retinal detachment.\n\nI am seeking (via sci.med) additional info on retinal detachments.\nThe Dr. did not wish to spend much time with me in explanations\nso I appreciate any further details anyone can provide. Of most\ninterest to me:\n\nIf my retina does detach what should be my immediate course\nof action?\n\nIf conventional surgery is need to repair the detachment what is\nthe procedure like and what kind of vision can I expect\nafterwards.\n\nDo the symptoms (fairly frequent flashes) imply that detachment\nmaybe near at hand or is this not necessarily cause for alarm.\n\nMany thanks\n\nBill","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nDon't let this confuse anybody.  The Winnipeg Jets have never won the\nStanley Cup (or even come that close).  These Stanley Cup championships\ngo back a LONG way to about the turn of the century.  The Winnipeg\nVictorias won one or more of these Cups- the Jets didn't win any of\nthem.\n\nCan you think of anything more irrelevant to argue about a playoff\nseries going on today than who won more Stanley Cups around the turn\nof the century??\n\nLets face facts.  The Canucks are leading the series 3-1.  The Canucks\ndominated the Jets in their season series.  The Canucks did better in\nthe regular season than Winnipeg.  Who is the better team?  I think\nthat the facts show that Vancouver is better than Winnipeg.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nDorothy Denning, _Cryptography and Data Security_, 1982, Addison Wesley.\nPage 8, under the heading \"Cryptosystems must satisfy three general\nrequirements.  The other two are efficiency and ease of use.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nArmenians have been doing just that for a long, long time.\n\nSource: \"Hagop Hagopian said to have been part of 1972 Terror Attack at\nMunich Olympic Games,\" The Armenian Reporter, February 7, 1985, p. 1.\n\n\"Le Matin, the influential Paris daily, based on unidentified sources,\nclaimed last week that Hagop Hagopian, the founder and leader of one\nfaction of the Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia (ASALA),\nwas among the Arab terrorists who staged an attack on the living quarters\nof Israeli athletes at the 1972 Olympic Games...\n\nLe Matin added that up to 1982, Hagopian operated out of Beirut, Lebanon,\nbut escaped from the country when Israeli forces entered the city. It was\nabout this time that a statement issued by ASALA claimed that Mr. Hagopian\nwas dead of wounds suffered during a bombing by the Israeli Air Force,\nalthough it is generally believed that the mysterious leader is alive and\nwell and presently is residing alternately in Damascus, Syria, and\nAthens, Greece. The paper also noted that the socialist government of\nPrime Minister Andreas Papandreou and his P.A.S.O.K. party accepted the\nArmenian underground leader with \"open arms\" and still providing him\nwith assistance simply because of Greece's traditional enmity with Turkey.\n\nLe Matin further adds that ASALA derives only a small portion of its\nexpenditures from wealthy Armenians who support the cause, with the rest \ncoming either from other sources or from proceeds of an involvement in\ndrug trafficking.\"\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nYes the govt handled it in the Rambo Hollywood type style\nwith extreeme Machismo. Perhaps thats not the way to handle\nit. \n\nIt is a completely different thing to start asserting as many\nhave done that the government is primarily to blame. The comparisons\nwith the NAZIs in particular are purely gratuitous.\n\nSince you have provided a constructive opinion on the issue your\npost desreves to be taken seriously. Peter Nelson also made some\nvery good points about how a low key approach might have been \nmore effective.\n\nThe point is though that you learn through mistakes. The govt\nplayed the wrong card and lost. Thats not a big deal. They\nhad had four guys murdered at the begining and maybee they \njust were not prepared for wuite this situation. Who could be?\n\nIf the same thing were to happen all over again we might perhaps\nbe able to castigate the Govt if they used the same tactics and failed\nin the same way. As it is I can't say that I would not have made the\nsame mistake. Maybee I wouldn't because I don't as a rule go in\nfor a confrontational situation if I can avoid it. Maybee I would\nbecause with all those press about its very difficult not to try\nthe macho stuff.\n\n\nThe FBI had information from within the compound we had no access\nto. They may have calculated that the B-D followers resolve was\ncracking based on their listening devices within the compound. They\nknew that Koresh had chickened out of one suicide attempt. This\nmay have been the reason why they considered that fear might have \nbeen a weapon for breaking his resolve. Again in Panama they had used\nthe heavy rock music to great effect during Bush's invasion. Funny that\nfew of the Koresh supporters and appologists complain much about the\ndeath of several thousand Pananmanian civilians while the US govt attempted\nto arrest their former ally.\n\n\n\nKoresh negated his civil rights the minute his followers fired\non the police helicopter. No matter whether the warrant was or\nwas not technically valid the guys who were carrying it out \nthought that it was. Thus the assault on them was completely\ninexcusable no matter what rationalisation people might wish to\nemploy.\n\nOf course we have to consider the guns issue. That is the whole\ncore of the question. Everything else is a diversion.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\tLots of house fires give off black sooty smoke.  And as far as\n\tthe speed of the fire the winds were gusting to 30mph at least\n\tthat day.  I guess you're forgetting the way Oakland and Berkeley\n\tlooked back in 91.  Did those folks use accelerants?\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\tsmg\n\n\t\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\t\t\t\t\t^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\nI am sure your numbers are far better then mine.  As i said above,\ni don't have exact numbers.\n\n\nHow different would the contamination threat of a small manuevering tug\nbe from that of the Shuttle and it's OMS engines??????\n\nI know that no small manuevering tug exists,  but maybe  one could\nsoup up a Bus 1.   Does anyone out there have the de-clasified\nspecs on hte BUS 1?  would it be able to provide enough  control\nforce to balance the HST,  and  still have the rocket thrust\nto hurl her into a decent high orbit?\n\n\nSorry,  that should be intrument pointing.\n\n\nPlus, if the second box gets fritzy, you could be in shitter ville\nreal fast.\n\n\nThe problem is no-one seems to have the exact numbers.  When the mission\nwas planned originally at 3 spacewalks,  and 3 astronauts,  there was\nenormous concern over the mass margins for the flight.  THey\nhave now planned for 5 EVA's,  an 11 day mission and have 2 reserve\nEVA's and an emergency EVA.  Obviously that is coming from somewhere.\nMy guess is the OMS burn  fuel,  or  re-boost  margin.   \n\nI just figured, if GOldin wants to really,  prove out faster, cheaper\nbetter,   have some of the whiz kids  slap together an expendable\nspace manuevering tug  out of a BUs1,  and use that for the re-boost.\nit has to be better then using the Discovery as a tow truck.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nI seem to recall graphic news file of buddhist monks setting themselves on fire\nin the streets of Saigon. Yes, its a horrible way to go, but apparently not\nso horrible that someone with enough religious conviction might not be able to \ncarry it through. And, since they've discovered bullet wounds in a couple of \nthe bodies from the compound, there is the possiblity that those with the will power to self immolate also had the will power to take out the ones who had\nless constitutional fortitude. Then again, maybe the FBI ran in while the fire\nwas raging, executed those two, and ran out again.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nI don't know the specifics of the compression algorithm, but I've used the\nshareware program, PaintShop, to convert between the two.  You can download\nit from ftp.cica.indiana.edu, but I don't know what the file is called\nor what directory it is in (you can start by looking in pub\/pc\/win3 or try\nscanning the index files).\n\nTo convert a .BMP file to a .RLE file, you just load the .BMP file and do a\n\"Save as...\"  Select \"Windows bitmap\" and \"Compressed\" (or is it \"RLE\"?)\nWhatever it is, it's fairly intuitive...\n\nSorry I don't have all the details, but I'm currently on an IBM3151 dumb\nterminal and can't do much researching...Good luck!\n ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nDoes anyone know how to access and\/or display multiple pages in mode 13h\nwhile still maintaining the 1 byte per pixel memory organization?\nExamples in C or Assembly would be appreciated...\nThanks\nScott\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"i need to get some info a.s.a.p. about the cellular\nantenna market out there right now:  who are the main\ncompanies making them, how much do they cost, what are\nthe specs (such as gain , directivity, etc.), and who\nis the contact person because a group of us here are\nat the Univ.of IL are researching into this technology\n\n\nI will personally mail you a copy of our entire busineess\nplan and paper if you can be of any help..","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\/>\/:\/g\nj:Maybe they WANTED it to look like murder. He had 50+ days. I think this was\n:>coming the whole time. He didn't even put the children in the buried bus or\n:>the underground bunker during the CS seige. He put them up into the tower\n:>to die.\n:\n:\tIs CS gas lighter or heavier than air?  Do you know?  If the\n\nCS is heavier than air... most chemical weapons are...\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I am pleased to announce that a *revised version* of _The Easy-to-Read Book\nof Mormon_ (former title: _Mormon's Book_) by Lynn Matthews Anderson is now\navailable through anonymous ftp (see information below). In addition to the\nchange in title, the revised ETR BOM has been shortened by several pages\n(eliminating many extraneous \"that's\" and \"of's\"), and many (minor) errors\nhave been corrected. This release includes a simplified Joseph Smith Story,\ntestimonies of the three and eight witnesses, and a \"Words-to-Know\"\nglossary.\n\nAs with the previous announcement, readers are reminded that this is a\nnot-for-profit endeavor. This is a copyrighted work, but people are welcome\nto make *verbatim* copies for personal use. People can recuperate the\nactual costs of printing (paper, copy center charges), but may not charge\nanything for their time in making copies, or in any way realize a profit\nfrom the use of this book. See the permissions notice in the book itself\nfor the precise terms.\n\nNegotiations are currently underway with a Mormon publisher vis-a-vis the\nprinting and distribution of bound books. (Sorry, I'm out of the wire-bound\n\"first editions.\") I will make another announcement about the availability\nof printed copies once everything has been worked out.\n\nFTP information: connect via anonymous ftp to carnot.itc.cmu.edu, then \"cd\npub\" (you won't see anything at all until you do).\n\n\"The Easy-to-Read Book of Mormon\" is currently available in postscript and\nRTF (rich text format). (ASCII, LaTeX, and other versions can be made\navailable; contact dba@andrew.cmu.edu for details.) You should be able to\nprint the postscript file on any postscript printer (such as an Apple\nLaserwriter); let dba know if you have any difficulties. (The postscript in\nthe last release had problems on some printers; this time it should work\nbetter.) RTF is a standard document interchange format that can be read in\nby a number of word processors, including Microsoft Word for both the\nMacintosh and Windows. If you don't have a postscript printer, you may be\nable to use the RTF file to print out a copy of the book.\n\n-r--r--r--  1 dba                   1984742 Apr 27 13:12 etrbom.ps\n-r--r--r--  1 dba                   1209071 Apr 27 13:13 etrbom.rtf\n\nFor more information about how this project came about, please refer to my\narticle in the current issue of _Sunstone_, entitled \"Delighting in\nPlainness: Issues Surrounding a Simple Modern English Book of Mormon.\"\n\nSend all inquiries and comments to:\n\n    Lynn Matthews Anderson\n    5806 Hampton Street\n    Pittsburgh, PA 15206","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Here's the situation:\n\nAt home, I have MS Word for windows but no printer.  At work, I\nhave windows + a postscript printer, but not MS Word.  So, I\nconfigure my machine at home to use a postscript printer, and use\nthe print to file option, which produces a nice postscript file,\nwhich I then bring to work.\n\nMy question:  how do I print this postscript file through the print\nmanager at work? If, for example, I select print from the file\nmanager, it treats the postscript as a text file, and gives me\nseveral pages of postscript gibberish.\n\nI know that I can open a DOS window and do:\n\n\t copy file.ps com1:\n\nwhich does work, but seems not to multitask very well -- other applications\nrun rather slowly and often pause for 10's of seconds.\n\nThere ought to be a way of passing the postscript file to the Print\nManager, but if there is, I can't find any mention of it in the\ndocumentation.\n\nAnyone know how to do this?\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I'm looking for a circuit that will flash an led on in response \nto the output from a walkman cassette player. How could I do this?\nI don't want it just to turn on, I want it to 'strobe' once so to speak,\nper every beep I put on a cassette tape. \n\n     Would it be better to use a circuit based on the volume of the beeps\non the cassette, or better for the leds to respond to a tone of a certain\nfrequency? Is there any easy way to do either of these? I'm looking for \nthe simplest circuit possible. I guess what I'm asking for is some sort of\ncolor organ, but not quite. Let me trt to explain again...\n\n\n     I'm going to have a pattern of beats (or beeps) on a cassette tape.\nSo on the tape you'd hear:   beep! (pause) beep! (pause) beep! (pause)..etc. \n, with speed increasing as time goes on. I want to synchronize an LED (\nprobably two of them) with the beeps on the cassette tape. So the LED, with\neach beep, would go on and off real quick, generating a strobe light sort\nof effect. The rapidity of the beeps on the tape would in turn effect the\nrapidity of the blinking of the LEDS. And if there was no sound on the tape\n(except for background his), the LEDs would remain off. Please help!\n\n\n  Thanks,","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n: Size is another factor.  The BJ-200 is much smaller, but the HP is built \n: like a tank.  I bet the BJ-200 would get damaged first.\n\nYou bet your bippy it's built like a tank.. and not just mechanically either!\n\nThis past weekend we had a nasty thunderstorm and the impossible (*&^%)\nhappened - I got a direct lightning strike on my house - and to the second\nfloor outlet box into which my faithful DeskJet 500C was connected. There\nwas a .303-bullet-sized hole in the aluminum siding with some solidified\naluminum slag dripping from it. You could actually see the electrical box\nthrough the hole! The outlet itself was fried and I'm still amazed the\nwhole damn house didn't burn down.\n\nI lost 2 electric garage door openers,  2 vcr's, 2 telephones (all of which\nwere on the opposite side of the house), a ZyXEL U-1496E high speed modem,\na VGA monitor, a 1024x768 color monitor, the RS232 and parallel ports on my\nX terminal and a WD LAN card in my PC. Not a good night!\n\nBut, the DeskJet ran as soon as I found a functioning serial and parallel\nport to connect to it.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I remember as a kid visiting my relatives on Kauai, and one of the things\nthat really frightened me was centipedes.  I'd been told they were poisonous\nand infrequently one would pop up and scare the heck out of me.  Once\none came out of the vacuum cleaner and it seemed like it was at least a foot\nlong and moving at 35 miles an hour!\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
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{"text":"\n\nThat is the result of living in an alternate universe with 'Arromdians'\nof the ASALA\/SDPA\/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism Triangle. Are you '*ians'\nfor real?\n\nA Final Goodbye in Azerbaijan:\n\n[Photo by Associated Press]: \"At a cemetery in Agdam, Azerbaijan, family \nmembers and friends grieved during the burial of victims killed in the \nfighting in Nagorno-Karabagh. Chingiz Iskandarov, right, hugged the \ncoffin containing the remains of his brother, one of the victims. A copy \nof Koran lay atop the coffin.\"\nThe New York Times, 3\/6\/92\n\nFinal Embrace :\n\n[Photo by Associated Press]: \"Chingiz Iskenderov, right, weeps over \ncoffin holding the remains of his brother as other relatives grieve \nat an Azarbaijani cemetery yesterday amid burial of victims killed \nin fighting in Nagorno-Karabagh.\"\nThe Washington Post, 3\/6\/92\n\nNagorno-Karabagh Victims Buried in Azerbaijani Town :\n\n\"Refugees Claim Hundreds died in Armenian Attack...Of seven bodies seen \n here today, two were children and three were women, one shot through \n the chest at what appeared to be close range.  Another 120 refugees \n being treated at Agdam's hospital include many with multiple stab \n wounds.\"\n Thomas Goltz\n The Washington Post, 2\/28\/92\n\nArmenians Burn Azeri Village in New Unrest:\n\n\"Armenian guerillas attacked a strategic Azeri village...in Nagorno-Karabagh \n and burned it to the ground on Tuesday, Commonwealth television reported. \n Channel one television said the village of Malybeili, in the Khodzhalin \n district, was now cut off and a large number of wounded were left stranded.  \n Itar-Tass news agency said several people were killed and 20 wounded in \n the attack on the village... Tass also said shells fired from Armenian \n villages into the Azeri populated town of Susha, just 6 miles south of \n Stepenakert, demolished two houses and damaged five others...Fierce fighting \n flared two weeks ago following the crash of an Azeri helicopter in Karabagh \n in which 40 people died.\" (Reuters)\n Turkish Daily News, 2\/12\/92\n\nCIS Commander Pulls Troops Out of Karabagh :\n\n\"Elif Kaban, a Reuter correspondent in Agdam, reported that after a battle \n on Wednesday, Azeris were burying scores of people who died when Armenians \n overran the town of Khojaly, the second-biggest Azeri settlement in the \n area. 'The world is turning its back on what's happening here. We are dying \n and you are just watching,' one mourner shouted at a group of journalists.\"\n Helen Womack\n The Independent, 2\/29\/92\n\nArmenian Soldiers Massacre Hundreds of Fleeing Families:\n\n\"The attackers killed most of the soldiers and volunteers defending the \n women and children.  They then turned their guns on the terrified refugees.  \n The few survivors later described what happened: 'That's when the real \n slaughter began,' said Azer Hajiev, one of the three soldiers to survive.  \n 'The Armenians just shot and shot. And they came in and started carving \n up people with their bayonets and knives.'  A 45-year-old man who had been \n up on us and people were falling all around.  My wife fell, then my child.\"\n Thomas Goltz\n Sunday Times, 3\/1\/92\n\nArmenian Raid Leaves Azeris Dead or Fleeing:\n\n\"...about 1,000 of Khojaly's 10,000 people were killed in Tuesdays attack. \n Azerbaijani television showed truckloads of corpses being evacuated from \n the Khocaly area.\"\n Brian Killen (Reuters)\n The Washington Times, 3\/2\/92\n\nAtrocity Reports Horrify Azerbaijan :\n\n\"Azeri officials who returned from the seen to this town about nine miles \n away brought back three dead children, the backs of their heads blown off...\n 'Women and children had been scalped,' said Assad Faradzev, an aide to \n Karabagh's Azeri governor.  Azeri television showed pictures of one \n truckload of bodies brought to the Azeri town of Agdam, some with their \n faces apparently scratched with knives or their eyes gouged out.\"\n Brian Killen (Reuters)\n The Washington Times, 3\/3\/92\n\nMassacre By Armenians Being Reported:\n\n\"The Republic of Armenia reiterated denials that its militants had \n killed 1,000 [Azeris]... But dozens of bodies scattered over the \n area lent credence to Azerbaijani reports of a massacre.\"\n (Reuters)\n The New York Times, 3\/3\/92\n\nKillings Rife in Nagorno-Karabagh, Moldova:\n\n\"Journalists in the area reported seeing dozens of corpses, including some \n of the civilians, and Azerbaijani officials said Armenians began shooting \n at them when they sought to recover the bodies.\"\n Fred Hiatt\n The Washington Post, 3\/3\/92\n\nBodies Mark Site of Karabagh Massacre:\n\n\"A local truce was enforced to allow the Azerbaijanis to collect their dead \n and any refugees still hiding in the hills and forest.  All are the bodies \n of ordinary people, dressed in the poor, ugly clorhing of workers. Of the 31 \n we saw only one policeman and two apparent national volunteers were wearing \n uniform.  All the rest were civilians, including eight women and three small\n children. Two groups, apparently families, had fallen together, the children \n cradled in the women's arms.  Several of them, including one small girl, had \n terrible head injuries: only her face was left. Survivors have told how they \n saw Armenians shooting them point blank as they lay on the ground.\"\n Anatol Lieven\n The Times (London), 3\/3\/92\n\nKarabagh Survivors Flee to Mountains:\n\n\"Geyush Gassanov, the deputy mayor of Khocaly, said that Armenian troops \n surrounded the town after 7 pm on Tuesday. They were accompanied by six \n or seven light tanks and armoured carriers.  'We thought they would just \n bombard the village, as they had in the past, and then retreat.  But they \n attacked, and our defence force couldn't do anything against their tanks.'  \n Other survivors described how they had been fired on repeatedly on their \n way through the mountains to safety. 'For two days we crawled most of the \n way to avoid gunfire,' Sukru Aslanov said.  His daughter was killed in the \n battle for Khodjaly, and his brother and son died on the road.\"\n Anatol Lieven\n The Times (London), 3\/3\/92\n\nCorpses Litter Hills in Karabagh:\n\n\"As we swooped low over the snow covered hills of Nagorno-Karabagh we saw \n the scattered corpses. Apparently, the refugees had been shot down as \n they ran...Suddenly there was a thump...[our Azerbaijani helicopter] had \n been fired on from an Armenian anti-aircraft post...\"\n Anatol Lieven\n The Times (London), 3\/4\/92\n\n\"Police in western Azerbaijan said they had recovered the bodies of \n 120 Azerbaijanis killed as they fled an Armenian assault in the \n disputed enclave of Nagorno-Karabagh and said they were blocked from \n recovering more bodies.\"\n The Wall Street Journal, 3\/4\/92\n\nExiting Troops Attacked in Nagorno-Karabagh:\n\n\"Withdrawal halted;  Armenians Blamed...\n More video footage and reports from Khocaly paint a grim picture of \n widespread civilian deaths and mutilation...\n One woman's feet appeared to have been bound...\"\n Paul Quinn-Judge\n The Boston Globe, 3\/4\/92\n\n                 (to be continued...)\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I have two brand new Dayna Etherprint Adapters (10baset) for sale.\nThey convert ethertalk to localtalk. This is useful when wanting to\nhook up a localtalk network printer to a ethertalk(10baset) network.\nThey sell for $350 each in Mac Warehouse. Will take $100 each.\nGuaranteed.\n\nemail response to atg@virginia.edu","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n   searching out our deceased ancestors so that we can perform the\n   ordinances -- such as baptism, confirmation, and marriage for time and\n   eternity -- that are required for a person to obtain salvation through\n   Christ and to live with Him through the eternities. These are people\n   who may have not had the opportunity to know Christ in their lifetime,\n   so we are making it possible for Christ's saving grace (I know there\n   are thousands of interpretations of that phrase) to become fully\n   effective for them if they allow it to do so on the other side.\n\n\nThis paragraph brought to mind a question.  How do you (Mormons) reconcile\nthe idea of eternal marriage with Christ's statement that in the ressurection\npeople will neither marry nor be given in marriage (Luke, chapt. 20)?\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nDavid Hammerslag (dhammers@urbana.mcd.mot.com)\n   \"...there ain't nobody so bad that the Lord can't save 'em ain't\n        nobody so good they don't need God's love...\" -- Mullins ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n        Only guessing, but from his address I'd say that Jerry, like\n        me, lives in Canada. Unlike me, he thinks that our friends in\n        the US enjoy the same freedom that we do, and he has not seen\n        the slow but steady erosion to the south of us.\n\n        We have the benefit of relatively slow politicians and\n        ineffective law enforcement. Our rednecks tend to be the\n        objects of derision rather than elected officials. It's\n        everything LE can do to keep up with the real criminals. Any\n        time they actually go after somebody just because they don't\n        like his or her attitude, it's national news (It also often\n        blows up in their faces: eg. the well-intentioned but flawed\n        Zundel case, which resulted in a scolding from the Supreme\n        Court, not only to LE for prosecuting the case but to\n        Parliament for passing the law it was prosecuted under).\n\n        Our friends south of the border don't have as easy a time of\n        it. Among other things they have as many LE agencies as we\n        have agencies, and some of them have teeth. They also have the\n        War on Drugs which gives law-enforcement agencies exceptional\n        powers to ignore individuals' rights (the DEA has more\n        arbitrary power than that given to Canadian agencies under the\n        War Measures Act). We have the RCMP and CSIS who can't stop\n        fighting each other long enough to do any really effective\n        suppression of private citizens' rights. Not only that, our\n        Police Commissions have teeth, as I learned when I had to fend\n        off a bent cop.\n\n        It may be ironic that the nation founded on Life, Liberty and\n        the Pursuit of Happiness is getting government-imposed order,\n        while the nation founded on Peace, Order and Good Government\n        is getting in-your-face liberty.\n\n        That's not to say our time won't come. It looks like Chretien\n        is going to run on a law-and-order platform. Be afraid.\n\n        Cheers,\n                Marc\n\n---\n Marc Thibault                             | marc@tanda.isis.org\n Automation Architect                      | CIS:71441,2226\n R.R.1, Oxford Mills, Ontario, Canada      | NC FreeNet: aa185","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I want to add link encryption to a module that multiplexes upper\nlevel routines into a single data link. The upper levels won't know\nabout this, and thus key exchange shall only need to occur once (at\nthe initial link establishment). I figure that I can do this with\nDES and a Diffie-Hellman key exchange.\n\nIs using a Diffie-Hellman exchange to establish a 64 bit DES key\nacceptable, in other words, what are the pro's and con's of such a \nsetup? Are there any important issues to watch out for (aside from\nfiltering out unacceptable keys)?\n\nAnd in order to achieve this, I guess I will need to use 64bit math\nroutines (for probable prime number calculation, exponentiation etc),\nso could someone point me towards a good package (this is strictly\nnon-commercial).\n\nMatthew.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nAnd the best evidence you can find is second hand hearsay from\nan unnamed source? You may indeed be confusing *some* Muslims \nwith Nazi Armenians. Altogether 30,000 Nazi Armenians served in \nvarious units in the German Wehrmacht, according to Ara J. Berkian. \n14,000 in predominantly Armenian army units, 6,000 in German army \nunits, 8,000 in various working units and 2,000 in the Waffen-SS.[1]\n\nA number of these Nazi Armenians were volunteers from France,\nGreece, Rumania and Bulgaria who had chosen to commit\nthemselves to the German war effort. Derounian says that\n\n\"Dashnag Armenians from France bore the mark 'Legion \nArmenienne.'\"[2]\n\nThat Nazi Armenians like Dro 'the Butcher' and Nezhdeh sided\nwith the Germans probably had an impact on the decision of\nArmenians who overwhelmingly opted for armed service.\n\n[1] Enno Meyer, A. J. Berkian, 'Zwischen Rhein und Arax, 900\n    Jahre Deutsch-Armenische beziehungen,' (Heinz Holzberg\n    Verlag-Oldenburg 1988), pp. 118\/119.     \n[2] John Roy Carlson (Arthur Derounian), in 'The Armenian \n    Displaced Persons,' ibid., p. 19.\n\nIn fall 1942, the Armenian infantry battalions 808 and 809 were formed,\nto be followed by battalions 810, 812 and 813 in spring 1943. In the \nsecond half of 1943 infantry battalions 814, 815 and 816 were created.\nThese battalions together with other indigenous Caucasian units were\nattached to the infantry division 162. Also attached to ID 162 were\nthe field battalions II\/9, I\/125 and I\/198 which were formed between\nMay 1942 and May 1943. Altogether twelve Armenian battalions served the\nNazi army, if battalion II\/73, which was not employed at any time, is to be\nincluded.[1] Most battalions were commanded by Nazi Armenian officers.\nArmenians wore German uniforms with an armband in the Dashnag colours \nred-blue-orange and the inscription 'Armenien.'\n\n[1] Joachim Hoffmann, 'Dies Ostlegionen 1941-1943, Turkotataren, \n    Kaukasier und Wolgafinned im deutschen Heer,' (Verlag Rombach\n    Freiburg 1976), p. 172.\n\nWhile having collaborated with the Nazis against Stalin during the\nSecond World War, Nazi Armenians changed their policy after Hitler's\ndefeat. They now backed Stalin's claims on Eastern Turkish provinces,\nhoping that these would be annexed to Soviet Armenia and their Muslim \npopulation would be exterminated. Stalin played on Armenian national\nsentiments to enlist the support of Armenians in the USSR and America\nfor his imperial ambitions.[1] Stalin's ultimatum to the Turkish\ngovernment led Truman to formulate his famous Doctrine.\n\n[1] Walter Kolarz, 'Religion in the Soviet Union,' (London, Macmillan &\n    Co Ltd; New York, St Martin's Press 1961), pp. 160-164.\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Why is it going to take a year for V.fast to become a standard? Are there\ntechnical problems to work out, or is it just bureaucratic slowdown? THANKS!\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"In <1r1d2r$baf@umcc.umcc.umich.edu> dlc@umcc.umcc.umich.edu (David\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nOK here are some usefull applications and locations and other:\n\nOn Cica or mirrors in the \/desktop directory\n\nWRKSFT16 ZIP   39798 920915 WokShift Graphical Virtual Desktop (ver 1.6)\n(email author about version 2.0)\n\nDESK240  ZIP  164690 921103 Desktop Tools For Windows 3.x\n(BackMenu 2.4 & BigDesk #### Later version than BackDesk)\n\nTOPDESK  ZIP   51051 920723 Virtual Windows for Windows\n????\n\nFINDER   ZIP ??????? 930329 A Mac Finder clone for Windows\n(Works well with BackMenu)\n\n************\n\nAlso look out for SuperBar 2.0. Due out soon.  It allows button bars\nto be added to almost any application.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\tAs a matter of fact, I know it.\n\n\tThere were several shootings recently in which the guns had\nbeen purchased at the Baltimore Gunsmith, on Broadway - a favorite\nplace to get cheap \"popular\" pieces. By \"popular\" I am referring to\nthe kinds of guns our local youth gangs like: pistol grip shotguns,\ncheap magnums, and Tec-9s.\n\n\tI hate to poke a hole in your bubble, but I was referring\nto a specific gunstore, and specific incidents. Any other questions?","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":".\n        It should be remembered that all of the first reports came from \n       the FBI, and that independent observers, i.e. the press, were not \n       allowed to get close and see things for themselves.  Official \n       communiques tend to be self-serving for the agencies that issue \n       them. \n        People in general tend to believe first reports, as these get \n       the most and the biggest headlines.  Corrections are often \n       overlooked. \n         An example is the FBI report that several of the bodies found \n       in the rubble had bullet wounds.  The local coroner, who is \n       independent of the FBI, has so far found no bullet wounds! ","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\tNot necessarily.  As Shai points out, political appointments are\nbased on power.  They are also based on favors owed, coalition\nbuilding, and deal making.  While this may have a racist element to\nit, I think that its much more fair to attribute it to the \"old boy\"\nnature of politics.  Now, I'll freely admit that the old boy system\nhas racist and sexist effects, but I don't think that those are its\npurpose, whether in the US, Israel, or elsewhere.\n\n\n\n\tHere again, you miss out on the old boy nature of politics,\nand the existance of back-room deals.  As individuals, these arabs may\nnot be as well connected as the Jew who gets the job.  I don't like\nthis aspect of politics, but I understand it exists.\n\nAdam\n\n\nAdam Shostack \t\t\t\t       adam@das.harvard.edu","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"====================================================\n       H    H      A      RRRRR    RRRRR   IIIII  SSSS\n       H    H     A A     R    R   R    R    I   S    \n       HHHHHH    AAAAA    RRRRR    RRRRR     I    SSSS\n       H    H   A     A   R    R   R    R    I        S \n       H    H  A       A  R     R  R     R IIIII  SSSS  \n     ====================================================\n\n\nHarris Semiconductor now has AnswerFAX. AnswerFAX is on-line 24 hours\na day, 7 days a week, so you can instantly receive datasheets and \napplication notes by using your touch-tone telephone and FAX machine.\nThe number to call is (407) 724-3937. (It is not set up to do international\ncalls at this time.)\n\nThe general decision tree for the AnswerFAX is as follows, the numbers are\nthe available selections:\n\n\n       Welcome to Harris Semiconductors AnswerFAX\n                           |\n        ----------------------------------------\n        |                                      |\n        1                                      2\n        |                                      |\n Select 1 if you                        Select 2 for an\n are familiar with                      explanation of\n AnswerFAX.                             AnswerFAX\n        |                                      |\n        |--------------------------------------|\n                           |\n                           |                              \n                           |\n            --------------------------------\n            |                              |\n            1                              2\n            |                              |\n     Select 1 to order              Select 2 for a\n     a document (the                list of catalogs:\n     document list is                  1  New Products\n     in the catalogs,                  2  Linear Products\n     get them first)                   3  Data Acquisition Products\n            |                          4  Digital Signal Processing Products\n            |                          5  Discrete Power and Intelligent\n            |                             Power Products\n            |                          9  Application Notes\n            |                              |\n            |                              |\n  Select appropriate document    Select Appropriate Catalog\n            |                              |\n            |                              |\n  Do you want to order           Do you want to order\n  anything else? If yes,         anything else? If yes,\n  you will be taken back         you will be taken back \n  to the selection decision.     to the selection decision.\n            |                              |\n            |                              |\n            --------------------------------\n                          |\n                          |\n                          |\n                  What is phone number\n                    for your FAX?\n                          |\n                          |\n                  What is your name?\n               (request the instructions)\n                          |\n                          |\n                         END                        \n\n\n\nBill Werner\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Actually, I was angry when they went away from the Pens game.\nBeing a Pens fan in central Virginia is kinda tough.  I only\nget to see them on ESPN, and when they play the Caps, cause\nwe're close enough to DC to get all the Caps games, so when\nESPN switched to the Caps, . . . AAAGGGHHH!","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"The first problem was the sound.  I tried the M0, but then even the logon was\nmuted.  I don't want that.  Any other suggestions for that hissing?\n\nThe second is really strange.  First, I kept mentioning that FC slowed down\nall the time and took too long.  Well I just logged on with extensions off and\nI didn't have any slowdown.  Also, last time I was online I quit (which\nusually disconnects and quits).  It disconnected but it wouldn't quit.  I had\nto force quit, and then when I launched FC again it said the modem port was in\nuse.  This is really strange.  I thought it might have to do with fax\nsoftware.  Or the restart could have reset the modem port (a more likely\nexplanation).  So, any suggestions?\n\n-David","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n   ...  So how about this?  Give the winning group\n   (I can't see one company or corp doing it) a 10, 20, or 50 year\n   moratorium on taxes.\n\nYou are talking about the bozos who can't even manage in November to\nkeep promises about taxes made in October, and you expect them to make\n(and keep!) a 50-year promise like that?  Your faith in the political\nsystem is much higher than mine.  I wouldn't even begin to expect that\nin Australia, and we don't have institutionalised corruption like you\ndo.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nPoppy cock!  This story is obviously a complete fabrication, and I'll show\nyou why...\n\n           ^^^^\nThis establishes that the story takes place in Iowa.\n               ^^^^^^^^\nIn Iowa?!?!?  Come on now Dan, how dumb do you think we are?  You could\nhave at least thrown in a llama or tennis ball reference.  Hell, you\ndidn't even get the speed right.\n\nDean\n\nps. :-)\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nWe here at IBM have the same problem with our workstations.  I was also\nshocked when I first realized that you have to offset lines from fills by\nabout 16 bits (assuming 24 bit z buffer).  This seems huge, but is only\n1\/256 of the dynamic range.  In those terms it doesn't seem so bad.  What\nis happening is that the interpolation in z is not totally linear, due\nmainly to roundoff, I believe.  So the polygon is not planar in z, but is\nmore like a Ruffles potato chip.  Ditto with lines.  When you start\/end at\ndifferent x\/y values, the \"ridges\" are out of phase, resulting in the\nstitch effect.  You have the same problem if you try to draw 1 polygon\nright on top of another, but with different vertices.  You will likely see\na smeared effect where they overlap.\n  Example:\n  Try Polygon 1: (100,100,100) (100,200,100) (200,200,100) (200,100,100)\n      Polygon 2: (125,125,100) (125,175,100) (175,175,100) (175,125,100)\n\nYour implementation is correct.  In fact, we do a similar trick when\nrendering primitives that have lines and polygons - such as NURBS surfaces\nwith isoparametric lines.  Without the trick, the lines appear stitched, as\nyou say.  When the application draws lines\/polygons independently, the\nsystem does not have the smarts to automatically do the z shifting, so the\napplication must do it.  This is what you have discovered and are doing.\nBravo!\n\n(Note to IBM'ers:  The information given here has been previously disclosed\nthrough proper channels so I'm not giving away any new unpublished info.)\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"It happened to my classic ii once.  At startup, after the usual powerup\ntone, there were chimes (kinda like do(1st)-mi(1st)-sol(1st)-do(2nd) or\n1st C - 1st E - 1st G - 2nd C on the music scale), and it hanged before\ngiving the happy mac.  I had to re-powerup.\n\nThis was asked before but I can't remember the answer.  I've tried to\nfind the answer from the faqs and other ftp sites but to no avail.\n\nCan anyone tell me what those unusual chimes mean?  A spurious memory\ncheck error?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nThis is misleading, at best.  The question, really, has to do with the\nstatus of the Greek Septuagint versus Hebrew scripture.  And the issue\npredates the Reformation by quite a bit -- Jerome was negative about the\n\"deuteroncanonicals\" and in fact, even though he transalted them, he put\nthem after the Hebrew canon (reordered from the Greek ordering to the\nHebrew one.)  His translations of them were quick-and-dirty, also (he\nreports having done one of them in one day, and another overnight, just\ndictating his translation to an amanuensis.\n\nThat is to say, it is the Vulgate, and all of its massive importance in\nWestern Christianity, along with the veneration of Jerome, which took the\nfirst steps in \"reducing\" these books from the status they had (and have)\namong the Greeks.\n\nFurthermore, it is inaccurate to say that the Reformers \"threw out\" these\nbooks.  Basically, they just placed them in a secondary status (as Jerome\nhad already done), but with the additional warning that doctrine should\nnot be based on citations from these ALONE.\n\nI think that the emphasis on the Hebrew originals is sound, though it\nseems somewhat arbitrary to disallow on the face of it a translation as\npart of a collection whose principles of selection (in Hebrew or Greek)\nare confused or unknown and likely fraught with accident.  It also seems\nto play into a tendentious notion of the original languages being somehow\n\"more inspired\" -- as if magical, and conveying a message untranslatable\n-- than a translation, as if we could not hear God's word to the Jews in\nGreek (or German, or English, ...).  This tendency seems to have got a\nbig boost in _sola scriptura_ Protestantism, even to the point of current\n\"inerrancy\" bizarreness, despite the more basic, underlying tendency of\nthe Reformers to see that the texts SHOULD and COULD be translated.  If\nwe can profit from an English rendering of Hebrew and Greek, there is\nsurely little reason to keep Sirach, at least, out of our Bibles (and of\ncourse, Anglicans don't do so :-)).  For texts originally in Greek, it\nwould seem more to be anti-Greek prejudice (notably, by the time the\nHebrew canon is fully attested, including anti-Christian prejudice which\nled to the Jewish abandonment of the Septuagint) which is operative.\n\nBTW: readers may enjoy some lectures of Bruce Metzger on the issues of\ntranslation of the Bible (including some of what I said about Jerome,\nabove) in the current numbers of the journal _Bibliotheca Sacra_; two\nof four have been published so far.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Borchevsky is 5'9\" and Gilmour is 5'11\"...I think Gilmour slightly\noutweighs Borchevsky.  Andreychuk is also about 5'11\", I think.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Dear Sirs!\nCommercial firm of Lithuania \"POLIUS\" is interested for\nnew partners and establishing business contacts.\nAt present we may offer to You the following\n\n   We have HUMAN ALPHA-FETOPROTHEIN in liquit or leofil dried state\n   with purity not less than 96,6. Price 980$ per 1 mg. Every month deliveries\n   in quantity 50...100 mg.\n\n\nFor more information please contact:\nE-mail internet:  viktor@olesov.aiva.lt\nFax   (3702) 223 537\nPhone (3702) 757 533\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nActually, that's based on the NHL's history of 7 games.  The statstical\nodds of winning one straight game -- 50\/50.  Two straight games -- 25%.  Three\nstraight games -- 12.5%, 4 straight games = 6.25%.  The odds of the Penguins\nwinning 14 straight games in the playoffs was 0.0061%.  Of course, this doesn't\ninclude weighted average, but the Pens beating the Devils 3 straight (a weaker\nteam) along with beating the Rangers 3 straight (a much stronger team) has made\nthe act balanced out.  That's about right.  For Boston the odds of winning are\nprobably closer to 10% (with weighted average) since Buffalo's record isn't as\ngood and Boston has a stronger team.  Enough about my QBA probabilities though!\nIt's just goes to prove ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE, if you integrate that to Debbie\nGibson :-)\n\n\nMoog gets about ***'s out of 5 for his performance from me.  I give Blue 4\nstarts.  Fuhr has been too tough.  Buffalo caught a hot goaltender just in\ntime...I mean, after all, Buffalo is 3 wins, 7 losses in their last 10.\n\n\nIt's very frustrating to lose, and you've gotta say something.  Actually\nit's not about winning or losing, it is how you play the game.  But when the\ncompetition is magnified to this level, 99.9% of the people only care about\nwho wins or loses :-)\n\n\nI think Buffalo will win in 6 -- it's not like Boston is getting blown away.\nThey lost 2 OT games -- with a different bounce, they could easily be up 2-1.\n\n\nGood point here.  Chicago's in deep trouble tonight.  The 'Hawks have a bad\npast history of winning the division and losing early.  When they don't finish\n1st, they do okay.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nWow that certainly CONVINCED me that all Americans ar hung up about sex.\nJust one example of something that probably ran in a Hustler mag is enough\nto convince me.\n\nSarchasm off.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I am planning on upgrading my old XT compatible system with a new\nmotherboard, hard drive, and 1.4 MB floppy.\n\nI am interested in using my old power supply (150 W) to power the new\nhardware, if possible.  \n\nI have been told by the motherboard vendor that I could probably\nuse the supply if it had twelve wires going to the motherboard.\n(Apparently some XT vintage supplies had only 11 wires -- the\n12th wire is a 5v line used to charge the motherboard battery).\n\nMy question is has anybody tried bringing an additional wire\nout of an 11 wire supply OR using an auxiliary power source\nto charge the motherboard battery?\n\nI do not wish to buy an entirely new power supply if I can \nmake use of my existing one with simple hacks.\n\nThank you for any information.  \nAn email reply to rarbanas@rcsuna.gmr.com would be fine.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Excerpts from netnews.talk.politics.mideast: 16-May-93 Re: Saudi\nclergy   condemns d.. Robertc. Moldenhauer@par (2149) \n\n  The whole \"saddam is going to invade Saudi Arabia\" was nothing but US State \n  Department propeganda.  Saddam (and Iraq in general) never recognised the \n  British created Kuwait.  \n\nThis is complete garbage.   It is Kuwait FAQ number 1 (maintained, but\nnot compiled, by me to rebut the leftist drivel frequently posted wrt\nKuwait): \n\n------------------------------------------------------------ \n\nFirst is a note on the bogus arguments that the British \ndrew the maps to deprive Iraq of Oil. Then follows a \nchronology of events in Kuwait's history.   Following \nthe chronology is a speech by the Kuwaiti ambassador \nto the U.N.. Following this is an article on the origins \nof Kuwait. Following this is a series of articles \nwhich attest to the fact that Kuwait was independent of both \n(non-existent) Iraq and the Ottoman Empire. \n\n--- \n\nThe Iraqi regime claims that Kuwait was cut from Iraq by the British \nin order to deprive Iraq of its oil. The 1913 and 1932 border treaties \nbetween Kuwait and Iraq represent clear testimonies against such an \nallegation since oil was discovered in Kuwait in 1938! \n\n--- \n\nKuwait: A Chronology \n\n[BC 600] The Hellens settled in Al-Khazna Hill area on Failaka \nIsland. \n\n[529] Al-Monzer Bin-Ma'a Al-Sama'a defeated Al-Hareth Al-Kindi in \nthe Kuwaiti area of Wara. \n\n[300] The Greeks lived on Failaka Island for two centuries. \n\n[73] A royal message was inscribed on the Ikarus stone which is \nnow on view in the National Museum of Kuwait. \n\n[AD 623] The Arabs defeated the Persians at the battle of Zat \nAl-Salassel in the Kazima area. \n\n[1672] The approximate date of the establishment of Kuwait town \nwhen Barrak was the Amir of the Beni Khaled tribe. \n\n[1711] Approximately when the Al-Sabah family arrived in Kuwait. \n\n[1752] The approximate date of the election of Sabah Bin Jaber \nfrom the Al-Sabah family to be the first ruler of Kuwait. \n\n[1760] The first wall, 750 meters long, was built around Kuwait \nCity. \n\n[1762] Abdulla Bin Sabah, the second ruler of Kuwait, came to \npower. \n\n[1765] C. Niebuhr, the Danish traveler, visited Kuwait which he \nreferred to on his map as ``Grane.'' \n\n[1773] Kuwait was attacked by an epidemic  and most of its \ninhabitants died. \n\n[1783] The Kuwaitis defeated the tribe of Bani K'ab in the sea \nbattle of Riqqa. \n\n[1811] The second wall of Kuwait, 2300 meters long, was built. \n\n[1871] The Al-Taba'ah accident, in which many Kuwaiti diving \nships were sunk, was caused by a massive tidal wave between India and \nMuscat. \n\n[1886] The first Kuwaiti currency was minted in copper during the \nreign of Sheikh Abdulla Al-Sabah II. \n\n[1899] Kuwait signs a treaty with Britain and becomes a protectorate. \n(see note below) \n\n[1911] December 22. Al-Mubarakiya School, the first formal \nschool in Kuwait, opened. \n\n[1920] The third wall of Kuwait, 6400 meters long, was built. \n\n[1921] Kuwait took the first step toward democracy, the formation \nof a consultative council, but did not last for long. \n\n[1922] The total number of Kuwaiti pearl diving boats reached \n800, manned by over 10,000 sailors and divers. \n\n[1922] The first public library in Kuwait was established. \n\n[1926] The historian Abdul Aziz Al-Rasheed published the first \nbook on Kuwait. \n\n[1928] Kuwait's first periodical, the ``Kuwaiti Magazine,'' was \npublished by Abdul Aziz Al-Rasheed. \n\n[1930] Kuwait Municipality was established. \n\n[1930] An Amiri Decree was issued prohibiting the wearing of the \nBisht because of soaring prices. \n\n[1933] The Municipality installed lighting in the Kuwait market. \n\n[1934] December 7. Heavy rainfall destroyed many Kuwaiti houses. \nTherefore this year was called ``The destructive Year,'' ``Al-Sannah \nAl-Hadamah.'' \n\n\n[1938] February. Oil was discovered in Burgan oilfield. \n\n[1938] The first general elections, resulted in the first \nLegislative Council. \n\n[1942] The first bank in Kuwait was opened. \n\n[1945] ``Kuwait House'' was established in Egypt to look after \nKuwaiti missions and interests. \n\n[1946] The first Kuwaiti crude oil shipment was exported. \n\n[1948] ``Kazima Magazine'' was issued, the first Kuwaiti magazine \nto be both printed and published in Kuwait. \n\n[1950] Sheikh Ahmed Al-Jaber Al-Sabah, who had ruled Kuwait for \nthirty years, died. \n\n[1951] May 12. Kuwait Radio went on the air for the first time. \n\n[1952] The first ``Kuwait Masterplan'' was drawn up. \n\n[1954] Khalid Al-Faraj, the man of letters and poet, died. \n\n[1954] December, 11. ``Kuwait Al-Youm'' (Official Gazette) was \nissued for the first time. \n\n[1955] Oil was struck in Al-Rawdhatain, north of Kuwait. \n\n[1957] Kuwait wall was demolished and removed. \n\n[1957] The ``Social Affairs Department'' conducted the first \npopulation census. \n\n[1958] December 1. The first issue of ``Al-Arabi'' magazine was \npublished. \n\n[1960]  The first Kuwaiti woman was employed by Kuwait Oil \nCompany. \n\n[1961] April 1. The Kuwaiti Dinar became the official currency \nin Kuwait. \n\n[1961] June 19. The agrrement of January 23, 1899, concluded \nbetween Kuwait and Great Britain, was terminated. \n\n[1961] July 20. Kuwait became a member of the Arab League. \n\n[1961] December, 31. Kuwait Fund for Arab Economic Development \nwas established. \n\n[1962] January 20. The elected constituent assembly met to draw \nup the Constitution of Kuwait. \n\n[1962] An Amiri Decree was issued providing for the division of \nthe country into three governorates. \n\n[1962] November 11. The Amir of Kuwait, Sheikh Abdulla Al-Salem \nAl-Sabah ratified the first Constitution of Kuwait. \n\n[1963] January. The first elected National Assembly of Kuwait \nconvened. \n\n[1963] May 17. Kuwait became a member of the United Nations \nOrganization. \n\n[1963] August 7. The great Kuwaiti poet Saqr Al-Shebaib died. \n\n[1965] November 24. The Amir of Kuwait, Sheikh Abdulla Al-Salem \nAl-Sabah, passed away. \n\n[1966] The Neutral Zone was partitioned between Kuwait and Saudi \nArabia. \n\n[1966] November 27. Kuwait University was inaugurated. \n\n[1968] May 13. Kuwait freed itself from all external obligations \nwhen it canceled the agreement of June 19, 1961. \n\n[1969] April 1. Central Bank of Kuwait was established. \n\n[1969] October 18. The first communications satellite earth \nstation in Kuwait was inaugurated. \n\n[1973] July 6. The Kuwaiti pioneer and reformer Sheikh Yousef Bin \nEisa Al-Qina'ai died. \n\n[1975] March. The government acquired full ownership of Kuwait \nOil Company. \n\n[1976] The Social Security Law, applicable to Kuwaiti nationals, \nwas issued. \n\n[1976] The Future Generations Reserves Law was issued. It \nstipulates the allocation of 10\\% per annum of the State revenues for \nfuture generations. \n\n[1977] December 31. The Amir of Kuwait Sheikh Sabah Al-Salem \nAl-Sabah died. \n\n[1981] May 25. Kuwait signed the Articles of Association of the \nGulf Cooperation Council. \n\n[1983] The Bubiyan Bridge, linking Bubiyan Island to the \nmainland, was opened for traffic. \n\n[1985] May 25. The Amir survived an attempt \non his life when a bomb-laden car rammed into his motorcade on Arabian \nGulf Street. \n\n\n\n---From Kuwait, Facts and Figures, 1986. \n\nShedding Some Light \n\nOn September 29 1990, the National Council on US-Arab Relations \ninvited the Kuwaiti Ambassador to the United States, Saud Nasser \nAl-Sabah. The following are quotes of his speech: \n\n``Kuwait itself was an entity identified as Kuwait even before \nIraq was identified as Iraq in the Ottoman Empire. Kuwait was in \nexistence since 1752. We continued to be in existence until the \nconflict between the Ottoman Empire and the British and others in the \narea. Thereafter, we signed with the British in 1899 a protective \nagreement whereby the British guaranteed the sovereignty and security \nof Kuwait.'' \n\n``In 1913, the British and the Ottoman signed an agreement defining \nwithout any doubt the borders of Kuwait as they stand today. Such an \nagreement was reconfirmed in 1932 between the Kuwaiti government \nand the Iraqi government at that time. That is when Iraq became a state, \nafter Kuwait itself.'' \n\n``In 1961, when we declared our independence Iraq seized the \nopportunity to claim Kuwait as part of Iraq. There were threats. The \nBritish came in, and Arab forces came in to guarantee the sovereignty \nand territorial integrity of Kuwait. In 1963, Kuwait and Iraq again \nsigned border agreement, thereby defining our territory and Iraq's \nrecognition to the sovereignty and territory of Kuwait.'' \n\n---Compiled by Firyal Alshalalbi \n\n\nOrigins of Kuwait \n\nThe establishment of Kuwait is attributed to Barrak b. Ghurair of the \nBani Khalid who used Kuwait as a summer residence. The beginning of \nKuwait goes back to the late 17th century and some historians go \nfurther up to 1611. Kuwait's name is derived from al-Kut which means \nfortress. Kuwait is also called Qurain, which is the diminutive of qarn, a \nhorn or hill. Kuwait town flourished and grew since its \nestablishment. \n\nThe 'Utub, al-Sabah family is a branch of 'Utub, settled in Kuwait \nduring the early 18th century. They lived under the protection \nof Bani Khalid until 1752. After that, they became independent and \nSabah Bin Jabir was chosen as the first ruler for 'Utub. \n\nCarsten Niebuhr (1733-1815) a Dutch explorer was among the first who \nwrote about the Arabia. He was the mathematician in the scientific \nexpedition sent in 1760 by the King of Denmark to Arabia. He \ndocumented details of Arab tribes inhabiting both coasts of the Gulf \nand in the case of Kuwait, he was the first writer to give the two \nnames by which the town was known, Kuwait and Qurain. Niebuhr's chart \nof the Persian Gulf was the best one drawn before the end of that \ncentury, see the map from Abu Hakima, History of Eastern Arabia \n1750-1800. pub.1965. \n\nAl-Sabah ('Utub) kept good relations with other powers in the eastern \nArabia. According to Ahmed Abu Hakima's conclusions in his well \ndocumented study about the history of eastern Arabia between 1750-1800, \nthere was no Ottoman rule on the region. ``In the second half of \nthe 18th century, there was no Ottoman ruler in Eastern Arabia. \nIn fact, Ottoman rule was not even nominally acknowledged. Their \nattempts to restore their lost position in al-Hasa through the \ncampaign of Thuwayni in 1786, and Ali Pasha's expedition against the \nWahhabis in 1798, were unsuccessful. At Kuwait, the nearest point of \nthe Utbi domains to the Ottoman Mutasallimiyya of Basra, the Shaikh \nwas under no form of Ottoman control. The aim of 'Utbi external policy \nwas to keep on friendly relations with all the forces working in the \nGulf.'' (p. 182-183) Abu Hakima continued in his conclusions that ``Kuwait \nwas not a dependency of Basra, the Persian occupation of Basra \n(1775-79) did not affect Kuwait.'' (p.183) \n\nKuwait had its own identity through the Ottoman domination on the Arab \nworld. This identity was clear to the British and the French who \ntried to win the support of Kuwait's Sheikh between 1793-95 when the \nBritish wanted his support in their conflict with the French in the \nGulf area. \n\n--- \n\nIndependent Kuwait \n\nThis is the first of a series of articles that testify to the \nindependence of Kuwait throughout its history from both Iraq and the \nOttomans. \n\nThe following text is related to an expedition carried out by the \nOttomans in 1871 against the Wahhabis in Eastern Arabia (where the oil fields \nin Saudi Arabia now). Kuwait and its ruler at that time, Sheikh \nAbdulla Ibn Sabah Ibn Jabir, allied themselves with the Turks:} \n\nAbdullah' role in the fighting was not a minor one. He joined the \nexpedition as a commander of the large Kuwaiti fleet and was the first \nto use its guns against the besieged town of Al-Qatif. Had it not been \nfor this bombardment by the Kuwaiti fleet, Al-Qatif obviously would \nnot have surrendered in a mere three hours. \n\nIn relation to this, a question arises as to why the Ottoman warships \nrefrained from participating in the bombardment. The answer lies in \nreports relating to the political movements that preceded accounts of \nthe progress of the expedition. Because the Ottomans were unwilling to \njeopardize the maritime peace imposed by Britain in the area,  the \nSultan and the Pasha promised their warships would not be used in the \nwar against Su'ud or any Sheikh in the war zone. Kuwait, which was not \na party  to the above-mentioned treaty of 1861, was under no such \nobligation especially since the expedition was not directed against \nthose who had signed it. \n\n\n[ From the above text, we can see that Kuwait was not part of the \nOttomans or the British colonies. For more details about the mentioned \nexpedition, please check out the source of the above text: \n\nThe Modern History of Kuwait, 1750--1965, by Ahmed Abu-Hakima, McGill \nUniversity, Canada ] \n\n--- \n\nIndependent Kuwait--2 \n\nThis is another article of a series of articles that testify to the \nindependence of Kuwait throughout its history from both Iraq and the \nOttomans. \n\nThe following text discusses a dispute on an estate called Sufiyya in Zubair, \nIraq, between the Sheikh of Kuwait and Al-Zuhair tribe in Zubair. \n\nIn 1866, trouble developed over the possession by Sheikh Sabah of the \nestate which was [purchased] by his father, Sheikh Jabir, in 1836. This \nproperty was sequestered by a Turkish Qa'immaqam [representative] on \nthe basis of a claim by the Al-Zuhair that the vendor had been the \nowner of a share and not of the n 100e Sufiyya. At the same time, \nSheikh Sabah was required to expel from other lands owned by him at \nthe island of Fao some cultivators who had immigrated from Persian \nterritory. \n\nIt should be recalled that  the Turkish officials from the start \nshowed strong prejudice in favor of the Zuhair claimants. Abdulla Ibn \nSabah,  the eldest son of the ruler of Kuwait who went to Basra as his \nfather's agent in the case,  narrowly escaped being thrown  into jail \nupon his refusal to make a payment amounting to the value of seven \nyears produce which the Ottoman authorities deemed the plaintiffs were \nentitled to receive. \n\nEventually, the dispute was settled by the Wali [Governor] of Baghdad \nin favor of the Sheikh of Kuwait. The decision of the Governor of \nBasra in favor of the Sheikh was apparently made for various reasons. \nSome writers think that the Governor wanted to win Abdulla over to the \nTurkish side, and suggest that the Governor, Namiq Pasha, even offered \nhim the title of Qa'immaqam, which he declined. Nevertheless,  the \nproceedings of the Turks in this case were regarded by the inhabitants \nof Kuwait as attempts to cause a confrontation with Zubair. It seems \nthat they had anticipated a conflict and according to reports by the \nBritish Agent at Basra, the people of Kuwait were prepared to a man to \nabandon their town rather than submit to Turkish rule. Lorimer suggests \nthat the final order of Namiq Pasha, upholding the Kuwait Sheikh's \ntitle to Sufiyya, was perhaps due to a report that Sheikh Sabah, \n``with the object of attacking Zubair if the decision should go \nagainst him, had obtained a promise of countenance and armed support \nfrom the Wahhabi Amir.'' \n\nIn addition to this legal matter with Zubair, Kuwait had had other \nproblems with Basra whose courts tried to jail Abdulla Ibn Sabah, as \nexplained above. However, Kuwait's relations with the Ottoman \nmutasallims of Basra had at times been amicable and in several \ninstances, those mutasallims even sought refuge at Kuwait when \npressured by the Pashas of Baghdad who exercised control over them. \n\n[ Source: The Modern History of Kuwait, 1750--1965, by Ahmed Abu-Hakima, \nMcGill University, Canada ] \n\n--- \n\nIndependent Kuwait--3 \n\nThis is another article that testifies to the \nindependence of Kuwait throughout its history from both Iraq and the \nOttomans. \n\n\nWhen Pelly [Colonel Pelly, the British Resident in the Gulf] visited Kuwait \nfor the first time on March 3, 1863, he was \nmet at Jahra by Sheikh Mubarak, the second son of the ruler, Sheikh \nSabah. Just before he reached Kuwait town on March 4, he was met by \nSheikh Abdulla, the eldest son and heir apparent, who accompanied him \nto the town gate on their way to ``a very good home,'' which had been \nprepared for Pelly and his companions. ``Scarcely had we entered it,'' \nsays Pelly, ``when Sheikh Sabah himself came.'' \nThis description of Pelly's reception indicates that to a certain \ndegree it was run according to protocol. \n\nThe government system of Kuwait and administration of justice were the \nsubject of comments made by Pelly. ``The Government is patriarchal,'' \nsays Pelly, ``the Sheikh managing the political, and the Cazee [Qadi] \nthe judicial departments. The Sheikh himself would submit to the \nCazee's decision.'' Punishment was rarely inflicted. ``Indeed, there \nseems little government interference anywhere, and little need of an \narmy.'' Pelly in admiration of how the Sheikh ran the affairs of the \ncountry, retold the following remark which the Sheikh had made to him: \n\nWhen my father was nearly 120 years old, he called me and said, ``I \nshall soon die. I have made no fortune, and can leave you no money, \nbut I have made many and true friends, grapple them. While other \nstates around the Gulf have fallen off from injustice or \nill-government, mine has gone on [flourishing]. Hold to my policy, and \nthough you are surrounded by  desert, and pressed by a once hostile \nand still wandering set of tribes, you will prosper.'' \n\n[ Source: The Modern History of Kuwait, 1750--1965, by Ahmed Abu-Hakima, \nMcGill University, Canada ] \n\n--- \n\nIndependent Kuwait--4 \n\nThis is another article that testifies to the \nindependence of Kuwait throughout its history from both Iraq and the \nOttomans. \n\n\nThe British had always regarded Sheikh Jabir as a ``good friend,'' but \nin October 1839, an event took place at Kuwait which could have \nweakened those good relations. On October 30, Lieutenant Edmunds, the \nAssistant Resident at Abu Shahr [in Iran], arrived in Kuwait on  a \nspecial mission from the Resident, Captain Hennell. His mission was to \nfind out if Kuwait was willing to welcome the establishment of a \nBritish line of post across the desert from Kuwait to the \nMediterranean. The British war vessel fired the usual salute in honor \nof the Sheikh after it had anchored in the waters of Kuwait Bay. The \nsalute was not acknowledged and Edmunds waited in the vessel for three \ndays before he was able to communicate with the Sheikh. \n\nAfter Edmunds' return to Abu Shahr, both he and Captain Hennell \nexplained this unusual behavior of the Sheikh, to have been due not \nto ill-will, but principally to a desire to mislead the Egyptian agent \nat Kuwait as to the nature of his relations with the British. \nTherefore, they considered that Jabir's conduct did not indicate any \nchange in his friendly policies towards the British. \n\nIf the British tolerated the attitude of Jabir towards Edmunds, so \nalso did the Egyptians. Earlier in the same year, some of the most \nwanted men in the Wahhabi camp, such as 'Umar Ibn 'Ufaisan, the \nWahhabi general  in Al-Hasa, and Wahhabi tribes like Al-Duwaish, \nsought refuge in Kuwait. \n\nProtection of refugees seeking political \nasylum in his country was a policy that had been adopted earlier by \nSheikh Abdulla Ibn Sabah. This can, therefore, be looked upon as an \nindication of self-confidence; an outcome of Kuwait's independence \nfrom foreign powers. It corroborates the fact that Kuwait, if \nnecessary, was prepared to defend itself against more powerful \nneighbors. \n\nThis defense depended not only on the walls of the city, but also on \nbedouin tribes in its neighborhood and a merchant fleet equipped with \nthe necessary guns comparable to other Arab fleets of the time. \n\nAs to Kuwait's position between 1815 and 1839, one can safely state \nthat it managed to maintain a neutral policy with regard to the \nstruggling Wahhabis and Egyptians. Relations with the British  and \neven with the Pasha of Baghdad continued on good terms. \n\n[ Source: The Modern History of Kuwait, 1750--1965, by Ahmed Abu-Hakima, \nMcGill University, Canada ] \n\n--- \n\n\n\n\n\n\n  They were trying to recover land they believed \n  was theirs, much like the Argentines in the Faulklands.  The Kuwaitis pushed \n  just a little too far by taking Iraqi oil and Saddam thought he'd settle \n  the dispute the old fashioned way... \n\nAre you really this cartoonish?  Or do you seriously believe this?  If\nso, please post  your proof. \n\n  Everybody would have been much better off had they left the reunited Iraq \n  together and concentrated on taking out Saddam.  A strong, united Iraq with \n  an elected government would have gone a long way to ridding the world of \n  the feudal dictatorships in the Gulf. ","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nA HBP, but it reminds of my favorite (apochryphal ? sp ?) Don Drysdale story.\n\nWhen ordered to intentionally walk a batter who had hot-dogged on him in\ntwo previous at-bats, Drysdale reared back with the first pitch and\ndrilled him right in the ribs.\n\nHis manager came storming out of the dugout and yelled \"What did you do that\nfor ?\"\n\nDrysdale growled back, \"What are you complaining for ? I saved you three\npitches !\"\n\nIncidentally, if this is true, I'd love to know the other people involved.\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTed Kury            | \"One man stands... and the wall, cracks... and the wall,  \nSUNY at Buffalo     | cracks... and the wall, cracks... and the wall comes\nDept. of Economics  | crumbling down.\"                - Anthrax        ","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\tThis is pure bull.  I've had the 24 bit mode (640x480 and 800x600)\n\tworking since the version before 59 (??55??).  Bld 59 added \n\tthe 24 bit option to Flexpanel.  Try getting the drivers from \n\tftp.cica.indiana.edu or wuarchive.\nMine is:\nGateway 486 DX2\/50 LB\n8 Megs ram\nIDE HD\nATI GUP w\/ 2MB (installed upgrade myself)\nBLD 59 drivers.\n\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"What's with John Franco?  The Mets are hardly using him.  I heard he was\ncompletely recovered, but now I'm not so sure.\n\nIf there is anybody out there with information about Franco, I would\nappreciate it if you could drop me a line.\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n I would not be suprised if the equipment is compatible, in fact New York\nTelephone (NYNEX) spend a lot of money on Swedish switching equipment\nrecently.\n\n\n You can guess what brand of equipment I refer to :-)\n\nMichael","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I have a 3 month old that seems to have acquired the jitters of late. \nThe 14\" Apple color monitor that I'm using with an LCIII sort of jiggles to\nthe left and right all the time now. I have attempted to relocate the monitor\nto make sure the problem isn't interference from something else, but the \nproblem seems to remain no matter what I do.\n\nHas anybody encountered this problem?\n\nThanks,","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Hello there!\nA few days ago I got a mail concerning bitmap-stretching\nfrom SCOTT LEATHAM @ Microsoft Redmond WA, USA.\nI really would like to answer back to him, but I have \nlost his email-address.\nSo if Scott or anybody that knows his email-address\nreads this, please mail me his address so I can\nanswer his mail.\n\nPlease mail to : d91tm@efd.lth.se","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nThe problem is that (by no fault of ESPN) ongoing games are not\ncovered 'til the final horn sounds.  With two channels, SCNY and SCA,\nlate-finishing games (up to Pacific time) and overtimes elsewhere will\nkick in at the end of local coverage.  If SCNY is blocked by the Mets,\nthere is still some hockey on SCA (SCNY Plus).\n\nWith an ESPN 2, the current situation would be alleviated.\n\ngld","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I have an old IBM PC-XT motherboard which has TWO banks\nof dip switches (eight switches per bank).  I need to \nknow which switch is required to install a hard disk.\n\nDoes anyone have any archived documentation that would\nhelp me?  \n                                            \nThanks -jim-  jimd@cae.prds.cdx.mot.com ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I've had a Valentine for about 9 months now and I agree that it is the best det\nector available. The point here is trust and reliability. I've been able to \"tr\nust\" the Valentine more than any other detector I've owend. If the Valentine sa\nys that there is a moderate to strong radar source in front of me, then it's mo\nre than likely to be a speed trap. With my other detectors, I've gotten so many\n falses that I've begun to ignore someo of the warnings because I didn't want t\no drive like I had one foot on the brake and one on the gas pedal.\n\nThat directional indicator really, really helps. Plus, more info is almost alwa\nys better than less info. No matter how smart radar detectors get, the human br\nain is usually smarter. So, if I'm going to make a decisio based on information\n at hand, I want all the info I can get. Plus, if you divide the overall streng\nth of the radar signal by the number of bogeys reported, you'll find that each\nbogey is pretty weak and therefore not a radar threat. With other detectors, yo\nu'll just get one strong warning. My logic may be faulty on this, but I think i\nt works okay.\n\nAlthough, I must admit that I haven't really noticed the reflection problem of\none radar souce.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nI include the key verse (D&C 68:25) because others\nmay not have the reference.\n\n\"And again, inasmuch as parents have children in Zion,\nor in any of her stakes which are organized, that teach\nthem not to understand the doctrine of repentance,\nfaith in Christ the Son of the living God, and of\nbaptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost by the laying\non of the hands, when eight years old, the sin be\nupon the heads of the parents.\"\n\nWhat is \"the sin\" of the parents?\n\n\n\nEzekiel 18 teaches a correct principle.\nHowever, it assumes that fathers and sons have \nequal knowledge to prepare for the judgment.\n\nParents are responsible to teach their children\nthe Gospel and other life skills.  Should they\nfail to make a sufficient attempt to teach their \nchildren, the parent would be held responsible\n-- not for their children's sins, but for not\nteaching them properly.\n\nWhenever the Lord installs someone to a position \nof authority in either the family or the church He\nexpects that person to teach those in his charge.\n\nIn Ezekiel 33:7-9 someone called to care for others \nis likened to \"a watchman unto the house of Israel.\"\n\"If thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from \nhis way, that man shall die in his iniquity; but\nhis blood will I require at thine hand.\nNevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to \nturn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he\nshall die in his iniquity; but thou hast\ndelivered thy soul.\"\n\nEven though the D&C prefaces this commandment with\n\"parents have children in Zion\" I believe all\nparents are responsible for teaching their children \nwhatever good principles they understand.\nHowever, LDS parents accept greater responsbility\nand could be judged more strictly.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Well, I'm glad that there's plenty of NT stuff at Xhibition.\nNot because I want to use it instead of X, but because I want to \nfind out what the chances are that some time in the future I may \nnot have any choice.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Speaking of Roger and ilk, whatever happened to good ol' gln?  I had him in\nmy kill file since last year's playoffs and now that I've moved to a new\nnews reader which doesn't have kill files, I find that he's gone.  I must\nadmit, however, that unlike gln, Roger seems to know something about the game\nas long as the subject doesn't touch on the Leafs.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n \n\n\nThere are exactly ZERO verses that \"clearly\" address the issues.\n\n\nThe kind of interpretation I see as \"incredibly perverse\" is that applied\nto the story of Sodom as if it were a blanket equation of homosexual\nbehavior and rape.  Since Christians citing the Bible in such a context\nshould be presumed to have at least READ the story, it amounts to slander\n-- a charge that homosexuality == rape -- to use that against us.\n\n\nThe moderator adequately discusses the circularity of your use of _porneia_\nin this.  I think we can all agree (with Paul) that there are SOME kinds of\nactivity that could be named by \"fornication\" or \"theft\" or \"coveting\" or\n\"reviling\" or \"drunkenness\" which would well deserve condemnation.  We may\nor may not agree to the bounds of those categories, however; and the very\nfact that they are argued over suggests that not only is the matter not at\nall \"clear\" but that Paul -- an excellent rhetorician -- had no interest\nin MAKING them clear, leaving matters rather to our Spirit-led decisions,\nwith all the uncomfortable living-with-other-readings that has dominated\nChristian discussion of ALL these areas.\n\nHomosexual behavior is no different.  I (and the other gay Christians I\nknow) are adamant in condemning rape -- heterosexual or homosexual -- and\nchild molestation -- heterosexual or homosexual -- and even the possibly\n\"harmless\" but obsessive kinds of sex -- heterosexual or homosexual --\nthat would stand condemned by Paul in the very continuation of the chapter\nyou cite [may I mildly suggest that what *Paul* does in his letter that\nyou want to use is perhaps a good guide to his meaning?]\n\n\t\"'I am free to do anything,' you say.  Yes, but not everything\n\tis for my good.  No doubt I am free to do anything, but I for one\n\twill not let anything make free with me.\"  [1 Cor. 6:12]\n\nWhich is a restatement that we must have no other \"god\" before God.  A\ncommandment neither I nor any other gay Christian wishes to break.  Some\npeople are indeed involved in obsessively driven modes of sexual behavior.\nIt is just as wrong (though slightly less incendiary, so it's a secondary\nargument from the 'phobic contingent) to equate homosexuality with such\nbehavior as to equate it with the rape of God's messengers.\n\nI won't deal with the exegesis of Leviticus, except very tangentially.\nFundamentally, you are exhibiting the same circularity here as in your\nassumption that you know what _porneia_ means.  There are plenty of\nlaws prohibiting sexual behavior to be found in Leviticus, most of\nwhich Christians ignore completely.  They never even BOTHER to examine\nthem.  They just *assume* that they know which ones are \"moral\" and\nwhich ones are \"ritual.\"  Well, I have news for you.  Any anthropology\ncourse should sensitize you to ritual and clean vs. unlcean as categories\nin an awful lot of societies (we have them too, but buried pretty deep).\nAnd I cannot see any ground for distinguishing these bits of Leviticus\nfrom the \"ritual law\" which NO Christian I know feels applies to us.\n\nI'm dead serious here.  When people start going on (as they do in this\nmatter) about how \"repulsive\" and \"unnatural\" our acts are -- and what\ndo they know about it, huh? -- it is a solid clue to the same sort of\narbitrary cultural inculcations as the American prejudice against eating\ninsects.  On what basis, other than assuming your conclusion, can you\nsay that the law against male-male intercourse in Leviticus is NOT a part\nof the ritual law?\n\nFor those Christians who *do* think that *some* parts of Leviticus can\nbe \"law\" for Christians (while others are not even to be thought about)\nit is incumbent on you *in every case, handled on its own merits* to\ndetermine why you \"pick\" one and ignore another.  I frankly think the\nwhole effort misguided.  Reread Paul: \"No doubt I am free to do anything.\"\nBut Christians have a criterion to use for making our judgments on this,\nthe Great Commandment of love for God and neighbor.  If you cannot go\nthrough Leviticus and decide each \"command\" there on that basis, then\nyour own arbitrary selection from it is simply idiosyncracy.  In this\ncontext, it is remarkably offensive to say:\n\n\nWell, la-ti-da.  So what?  This is almost as slimey an argument as the\none that homosexuality == rape.  I know of no one who argues seriously\n(though one can always find jokers) in \"defense\" of bestiality.  It is\nabsolutely irrelevant and incomparable to the issues gay Christians *do*\nraise (which concern sexual activity within committed, consensual human\nadult realtionships), so that your bringing it up is no more relevant\nthan the laws of kashrut.  If you cannot address the actual issues, you\nare being bloody dishonest in trailing this red herring in front of the\nworld.  If *you* want to address bestiality, that is YOUR business, not\nmine.  And attempting to torpedo a serious issue by using what is in\nour culture a ridiculous joke shows that you have no interest in hearing\nus as human beings.  You want to dismiss us, and use the sleaziest means\nyou can think of to do so.\n\nJesus and Paul both expound, very explictly and in considerable length,\nthe central linch-pin of Christian moral thought: we are required to\nlove one another, and ALL else depends on that.  Gay and lesbian Christ-\nians challenge you to address the issue on those terms -- and all we get\nin return are cheap debate tricks attempting to side-track the issues.\n\nChristians, no doubt very sincere ones, keep showing up here and in every\ncorner of USENET and the world, and ALL they ever do is spout these same\nold verses (which they obviously have never thought about, maybe never\neven read), in TOTAL ignorance of the issues raised, slandering us with\nthe vilest charges of child abuse or whatever their perfervid minds can\nmanage to conjure up, tossing out red herrings with (they suppose) great\nemotional force to cause readers to dismiss our witness without even\ntaking the trouble to find out what it is.\n\nSuch behavior should shame anyone who claims to have seen Truth in Christ.\nWHY, for God's precious sake, do you people quote irrelevant verses to\ncondemn people you don't know and won't even take the trouble to LISTEN\nto BEFORE you start your condemnations?  Is that loving your neighbor?\nGod forbid!  Is THAT how you obey the repeated commands to NOT judge or\ncondemn others?  Christ and Paul spend ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE more time in\ninsisting on this than the half-dozen obscure words in Paul that you are\nSO bloody ready to take as license to do what God tells you NOT to do.\n\nWhy, for God's sake?\n\n\t\"For God did not send the Son into the world\n\tto condemn the world,\n\tbut that the world might be saved through him.\n\tWhoever believes in him is not condemned,\n\tbut whoever does not believe has already been condemned\n\tfor refusing to believe in the name of God's only Son.\n\tNow the judgment is this:\n\tthe light has come into the world,\n\tbut men have preferred darkness to light\n\tbecause their deeds were evil.\n\tFor everyone who practices wickedness\n\thates the light,\n\tand does not come near the light\n\tfor fear his deeds will be exposed.\n\tBut he who acts in truth\n\tcomes into the light,\n\tso that it may be sh0own\n\tthat his deeds are done in God.\"\tJohn 3:17-21\n\nFor long ages, we (many of us) have been confused by evil counsel from\nevil men and told that if we came to the light we would be shamed and\nrejected.  Some of us despaired and took to courses that probably *do*\nshow a sinful shunning of God's light.  Blessed are those whose spirits\nhave been crushed by the self-righteous; they shall be justified.\n\nHowever, we have seen the Truth, and the Truth is the light of humanity;\nand we now know that it is not WE who fear the light, but our enemies who\nfear the light of our witness and will do everything they can to shadow\nit with the darkness of false witness against us.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\t\t\t\t\t^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n^^^^^^^^^^^\n\nHopefully EPSN will use the lesson given by the master: Ted Turner.\nThe season Ted introduced TNT, many cable co.'s refused to put it on,\nsaying that, gee we get enough old movies, miniseries, etc. on TBS,\nUSA, AMC, WGN, WOR, why do we need another one? This was in the fall.\nCome spring, Ted fixed their little red wagons good. The previous\nspring, NBA playoffs wore on TBS, now they were on TNT (and still are).\nAnd everyone gets TNT now.\n\nSo, ESPN should put NFL football and baseball on ESPN2, and leave\nhockey on ESPN. And if cable co.'s play games and drop ESPN\nin favor of ESPN2, ESPN should alternate baseball and football between\nchannels every week.\n\nBut, do the ESPN guys collectively have the gonads of the Turner guy?","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nIf ESPN\/ABC is going to stick with one-sided Pens-Devils series(and it\nlooks like they will continue with it on Thursday night), I'd rather\nwatch pretty women in the stands than non-action on the ice where a\nslow,aging NJ team being taken out to lunch by a dynamic Pens squad.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":": |> Let me begin by saying I think this is the world's first religion to use\n: |> the net as its major recruitment medium.  Therefore, even if this\n: |> religion does not take off, its founding members will be very important\n: |> historically as this method of soliciting membership will eventually become \n: |> common.\n:  \n:  So what is Kibology? Chopped liver?\n\nKibo Himself summed it up by saying \"Kibology is not just a religion, it is\nalso a candy mint ... and a floor wax.\" I personally think that it is more\nlike Spam Clear.\n:   \n:  You really should check out alt.religion.kibology, as Kibo's religion is \n: slightly older than yours, makes more sense and has more slack.\n\nYes! Why send money to B0B when Kibo will pay you to worship him. (Funny, he\ndoesn't seem to have paid me...)\n\n: ------------------------------------------------------------------\n:      __  Live from Capitaland, heart of the Empire State...\n:  ___\/  | Jim Kasprzak, computer operator @ RPI, Troy, NY, USA\n: \/____ *|   \"I understand the causes, and sympathize your motivations,\n:      \\_| But all the details of this war are just your self-infatuation.\" \n:       ====  e-mail: kasprj@rpi.edu or kasprzak@mts.rpi.edu ","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"It's a shame there's no law against Driving While Stupid.  After a little\nwhile it would prevent all kinds of accidents.\n\nDean","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I'd like to conduct a small survey relating to Americans' views on economics and on Japan.\nThe survey consists of just two questions.  I ask that only Americans respond; I've posted\nit worldwide, however, because I think others will be interested in the results.  I'll\ntabulate the results and post them with some commentary.  Please respond by email to\n\"borden@m5.harvard.edu\".  Here are the questions:\n\n1) As an American, would you prefer that in a given year, a) our economy grows by one\n   percent, and Japan's economy also grows by one percent, or b) our economy grows by\n   two percent while Japan's economy grows by three percent?\n\n2) On what newsgroup did you read this survey?\n\nThank you for your participation.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Robert MacElwaine sez (again!);\n\n\nOK, I got it.  Actually, these message of MacElwaine's are coded messages.\nRead only the caps, and it all comes clear!:\n\n\n\nMaybe it's a message telling us what actually happened to the legendary\nLarson.  Perhaps it's a warning that one should not expend too much\neffort trying to counter MacElwaine's postings.  Who can be sure? :-)\n\n-Tommy Mac\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTom McWilliams 517-355-2178 wk   \\ They communicated with the communists,\n18084tm@ibm.cl.msu.edu 336-9591 hm \\ and pacified the pacifists. -TimBuk3","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":" \nJames, it could be that they were determined to stay together in the compound\nno matter what happened. Perhaps the fire was accidental, and the DB simply\nrefused to leave the compod. Perhap they died fighting the fire? who knows.\nwe will have to wait and see. i persaonlly find it hard to believe that they \nwould all agree to burn themselves up! what a horrible way to go.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Im new to Xlib programming. Im having a problem I hope someone here can\nhelp me with. I create a window, and I want it to have some background color,\nsay red, and draw an oval in it. Further, when I resize the window, I want\nto be able to redraw the image so that is fills the new window (whether it\nis larger or smaller.) Im using AIXwindows on an RS6000.\n\nMy problem is this: when I resize the window, only the \"original\" part of the\nwindow that was part of the window creation gets drawn into. Everything else\nis a grey..the oval \"tries\" to redraw itself but gets clipped. I can see that\nit WOULD be the right size if I could see all of it, but it only shows up in\nthe region that was the original size of the window when created.\n\nFor example, I start out the window at 200x200 in width and height. If I\nresize it to 400x400, the only part that has any color drawn into it is\nis from the origin out to 200x200..the rest is grey. Further the oval\nonly shows up in that 200x200 area.\n\nWhat am I doing wrong?? How can I get a window to resize and redraw a \nre-scaled image in it to take up the full size of the window?\n\nSecond question:\nCould someone tell me what Xaw and Xmu are???","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I didn't want to quote all the stuff that's been said recently, I\njust wanted to add a point.\n\n   The whole question of \"a right to a dark sky\" revolves around the\ndefinition of a right.  Moral rights and natural rights are all well and\ngood, but as far as I can see, a right is whatever you or someone\nrepresenting you can enforce.  In most civilizations, the government or\nthe church (or both) defines what the rights of the citizens are, and\nthen enforces those rights for them.  Here in the U.S., the constitution\nprovides a \"Bill of Rights\" from which most if not all legal rights are\nconsidered to derive.  I'm sure that most other countries have\ncomparable documents.  If you can persuade a court that you have a right\nto a dark sky derived in some manner from the Bill of Rights (in the\nU.S.), you can prevent (maybe) these billboards from being launched.  To\nkeep anyone in the world from launching then gets into international law\nand the International Court of Justice (correct name?) in the Hague,\nsomething I know little about.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I need the tool described in the subject line. Is there such a \ntool available via ftp? If so, I'd appreciate it if someone could\ne-mail me the location and pathname.\n\nThanks.\n\n-------------\nSaad Mufti\nPersonal Library Software","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"For a very long time I've had a problem with feeling really awful\nwhen I try to get up in the morning.  My sleep latency at night is also\npretty long,  ranging from 30 min to an hour.  I get about 7 hours of\nbedtime (maybe 6 of actual sleep) a night and more on the weekends.  I\nwill spend two or three hours laying in bed after this if I can,  because\nI feel so tired when I wake up,  even more tired than I was when I\nwent to bed,  which is usually too tired to work.\n\n\tAnyway,  I recently had a really bad flu,  so I called a friend to\nget me some cough syrup with both an expectorant and a nasal decongestant;\nbut he got Vicks formula 44M which has everything but an expectorant.  So\nI used that anyway,  and the three nights I used it,  I fell asleep rapidly\nand felt that I got really good quality sleep -- that is,  I actually\nfelt refreshed the next morning.\n\n\tSo,  I am now trying to look into,  both in the literature and\nexperimentally,  the use of antihistamines as sleep aids,  since I am\npresuming that it was the antihistamine that caused the effect.  The\nantihistamine in Vicks formula 44 is Chloriphenamine maleate,  so I bought\nsome generic tablets of that,  and tried one last night and didn't\nnotice any improvement.  I might try one with a little alcohol (about\n1 beer) to see if it is a synergism effect.  Also,  library research\nseems to show that Benadryl is the antihistamine with the strongest\nsedative effect of what is availible OTC.  So I might also buy a generic\nform of that and try that;  the PDR seems to suggest that 50 mg is a good\ndosage level to try.\n\n\tFor other medical information,  I have allergies but rarely have\nan allergic reaction living in New Mexico.  I also have chronically dry\neyes,  which get horrible if I try to use most underarm deoderants.  I did\nguess that my problem might be caused by hypoglycemia,  so I made some\nchanges in my diet consistent with that,  and it didn't help,  so I\nwent back to a normal diet (Pretty diverse,  also taking vitamin supplements)","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nBut one of the most basic concepts of Christian morality is that we\nall have defective appetites due to original sin.  Not just\nhomosexuals, but everybody.  Thus we are not entitled to indulge in\nwhatever behavior our bodies want us to.\n\nI think we need to keep clear the distinction between homosexual\n_behavior_ (which is wrong) and homosexual _orientation_ (which is not\na sin, merely a misfortune).\n\n[Please: NO EMAIL REPLIES.  Respond in this public forum.]","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Is there an easy (ie via shell commands) way to tell what the DISPLAY \nenvironment variable is for any given client process?  Sometimes I can \nget what I want by typing ps -axe if:\n   a. the client was invoked with a -display argument\n      or\n   b. DISPLAY is one of the first few variables defined in the environment\n      (actually I've never seen b. but it's there to illustrate the type \n      of thing I'm looking for)\n\nUltimately I wish to determine the number of displays that are simultaneously \nrunning a given X application.\n\nmy system: SunOS 4.1.2 sun4c\n\nthanks for any help,\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n[A lot of interesting stuff about gopher - deleted]\n\n\n\nI've heard of it but lost the intro posting that came out a while back -\ncould you post it again?  I think it's of general interest.\n\n\nBen","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nThat was a reasonable insertion, so folks would know \"Random\" hadn't made an  \nerror reposting your message.  No one was flaming you for the typo.\n\n\nI have heard such claims from disgruntled former members.  Could be true, who  \nknows.  No proof.  And what does all this have to do with the BATF and FBI  \nactions?\n\nNo, you missed his.\n\n\nThis from someone who does not have a return address in his header:\n----\nNewsgroups: talk.politics.guns\nFrom:  ()\nSubject: Re: CLINTON JOINS LIST OF GENOCIDAL SOCIALIST LEADERS\nOrganization: Trinity College, Hartford, CT.\nLines: 65\n----\nWhereas David Pope (random) did, so a reasonable newsreader could simply hit  \nreply to his comments, but not to yours.  Get an education in Internet use, \"my  \nman\".\n\n\nJim\n--\njmd@handheld.com","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nDon't even get hyped up.  They are still accepting submissions from the\nmembers for various proposals of how to implement the standard.\n\nYou don't seem to realize that while v32bis was just an extension of\nv32 (which took years to pass, implement, and finally sell at a reasonable\nprice), v.fast requires all new technology (not just faster DSP chips, etc.)\nto achieve its performance.\n\nWait until next spring for the final ratification and modems coming shortly\nafter that.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"[Posting the text of H.R. 893 ...]\n[ ... ]\n[page break]\n\nOB ill-wind-and-all-that:  with Bill the Prez in there, at least the\nanti-gunners are out of the closet.  The provision that any existing\nso-called \"assault weapons\" die with their current owners was worked\ninto H.R. 3371 (102nd Congress bill number) a couple of years ago,\nin a complicated way that the anti's claimed was a \"drafting error.\"\n\nCan't call 'em \"lying bastards\" any longer.  (Not all the time ...  :-)","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\tThe best one I've seen is CEO, by Sloop Software.  They have a\n\tsharware version, but the retail version is only $40-50.  It's\n\tincredibly complete, subfolders to any level, choose any icon,\n\thot keys, drop down menus, button bars, etc.  Haven't found\n\tanything it doesn't do.  Try mailing 72540.144@compuserve.com\n\tfor details.\n\n\tTom","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"1B Career:  DON MATTINGLY!!!!!!!!\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Hello.\nHoping to net some netters\nwho are in the helping professions \n(counseling, psychology, psychiatry, social work, therapy etc.)\nto network on some topics and consider\nthe possibility of a sci.counseling.christian type newsgroup\nor list.\n\nThe integration of psychology and counseling and theology \nis a subject of great debate and one of particular interest\nto me.\n\nIf you're out there, please lemme know.\n\nEmail me direct if you will so we can get to know one another\noff the news.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nAnybody who drove into somebody like that in this country would hopefully \nlose their licence.  However, the avoidance is simple.  Don't stop behind the \ncage. stop beside it, or better still, in front of it, so that it acts as a \nbuffer.\n\n\nTony\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nNot according to reports I have read. It seems that the Somalis think\nof our African American Marines in less than complimentary terms, using\ngestures that signify a word I refuse to use. Seems that even when you\ntry to help people, they still insult you.\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nLiefting> The alt.* hierarchie is created for 2 purposes: 1. For\nLiefting> groups which do not fit under the comp.* or other 'official'\nLiefting> hierarchies 2. For the fast creation of hot new newsgroups\nLiefting> like alt.gulf.war\n\nLiefting> Because there is no voting process or any other control\nLiefting> facilities, sites are free to decide not to carry (some of)\nLiefting> the alt groups.\n\nLiefting> Therefore, it is (I think) desirable to try to create\nLiefting> comp.graphics.  {raytrace, rendering or whatever} and not an\nLiefting> alt-group\n\nPlus, *many* sites, (especially many .com sites) do not carry any alt\nnewsgroups. (We don't for example.) A comp.* group will get a much broader\ndistribution and would be useful to many more people. Plus the topic is\nimportant\/popular enough to warrant its own group, IMHO.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Sharp Wizard: OZ-8000 electronic organizer w\/ 64k RAM\n     * Home and World clocks\n     * Calendar\n     * Schedular\n     * Anniversary and periodic dates\n     * 3 Telephone directories\n     * Business card directory\n     * Calculator\n     * Outliner\/Memos\n     * 40x8 screen\n     * QWERTY style keyboard\n     * Alarms\n     * Password protection\n     * PC computer interface (requires cable)\n     * Software card slot w\/ touch screen\n     * vt100 terminal builitin (requires cable and modem)\n    \n     I also have have an external battery pack that uses AA's\n     Mail order price: sharp       $300\n                     : battery pak $35\n\n\n     Asking          : $150 for the whole deal\n\n     Unit is in perfect shape, I just don't use as anything but an address\n     book. \n\n\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"It's over - the Sabres came back to beat the Bruins in OT 6-5 tonight\nto sweep the series. A beautiful goal by Brad May (Lafontaine set him\nup while lying down on the ice) ended it. Fuhr left the game game with\nan injured shoulder and Lafontaine was banged up as well; however, the\nSabres will get a week's rest so injuries should not be a problem.\n\nMontreal edged Quebec 3-2 to square their series, which seems to be\nheaded for Game 7. The Habs dominated the first two periods and were\nunlucky to only have a 2-2 tie after 40 minutes. However, an early\ngoal by Brunet in the 3rd won it.\n\nThe Islanders won their 3rd OT game of the series on a goal by Ray\nFerraro 4-3; the Caps simply collapsed after taking a 3-0 lead in the\n2nd. The Isles' all-time playoff OT record is now 28-7.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nAnd DoDers are easily recognized by their own special wave.\nPay attention and I'll tell you how to do it. Hold your left hand out\nin front of you, fingers straight but apart - like a vase. You may also\nuse your right hand if you have a throttle lock or are stopped. Bring\nyour fingertips and thumb together, touch, and open back to the starting\nposition. While you are doing this, move your hand slowly to the left.\nDo it gracefully and with a waving motion. You are now imitating a\nsquid propelling itself about underwater probably in search of food,\ndrink, squids of the appropriate sexual orientation, or other squids to\ngo riding with.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I have been using WinQVT\/Net 2.81 under Win3.1 (dos 5.0) for quite\nsometime without any problem.  I recently installed DOS 6.0 on my 386-40 PC\nand I cannot run WinQVT\/Net any more.  I keep getting \"Packet received for\ninvalid port-reset sent\" messages on the console window.  I can't\nget more than 1 telnet window and can't use ftp!!!\n\n   Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Forwarded from the Mars Observer Project\n\n                       MARS OBSERVER STATUS REPORT\n                             April 30, 1993\n                              11:30 AM PDT\n\nDSS-65 (Madrid 34 meter antenna) did not acquire the expected Mars Observer\nSpacecraft signal at the scheduled beginning of track yesterday morning (4\/29)\nat approximately 6:00 AM.  Indications were that the spacecraft had entered a\nFault Protection mode sometime between that time and receipt of normal\ntelemetry at the end of the previous station pass (DSS-15 - Goldstone 34\nmeter antenna) at approximately 8:00 PM the evening before.  Entry into\nContingency Mode was verified when signal was reacquired and telemetry\nindicated that the spacecraft was sun coning.  After subsystem engineers\nreported all systems performing nominally, fault protection telemetry modes\nwere reconfigured and memory readouts of command system Audit Queue and\nAACS (Attitude and Articulation Control Subsystem) Starex performed.  These\nreadouts verified that Contingency Mode entry occurred shortly after 1:30 AM\nyesterday, 4\/29\/93.  Preliminary indications are that a Sun Ephemeris Check\nfailure triggered fault protection.  However, the Flight Team will be\ndetermining the precise cause over the next few days.\n\nAs of last evening, the spacecraft had been commanded back to Inertial\nReference and was stable in that mode.  The Flight Team is planning to\ncommand the spacecraft back to Array Normal Spin state today.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nI know for sure that the Everex Magic I\/O EV-170A can be jumpered\nfor a printer mode, or for a general purpose bidirectional I\/O mode.\n\nAlso, I know for sure that the IBM Technical Reference says the following\nabout the Monochrome Display & Printer Adapter and the IBM Parallel Printer\nAdapter:\n\n    It is essential that the external device not try to pull these\n    lines [referring to the data lines] to ground.\n\nAnd later:\n\n    If an external device should be driving data on these pins (in\n    violation of usage ground rules) at the time of an input, this\n    data will be `or'ed with the latch contents.\n\nI will accept no responsibility if you incur damages of any kind\nas a result of my saying, ``I DO NOT know for sure, but I think\nyou should be able to use a traditional parallel port as an input\nport by writing 0x to the data lines, and then reading from the\ndata lines, while an external device drives them.''  The input\ndata will not be latched, so noise could make this infeasible.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nDo you know of the world-wide-web?  This is a global hypertext (well, \nhypermedia) network running on the internet.  One of the nice things\nabout it is that is understands and incorporates virtually all of the\nother systems being used, like WAIS, Gopher, FTP, Archie, etc.  It\nis usually quite easy to add existing resources to the web.\n\nIf you'd like to explore, I'd suggest getting the XMosaic program,\nwritten at the NCSA.  It's an X-windows web browser, and is pretty\nslick.  It can understand and cope with more than text: gif, jpeg, mpeg,\naudio, etc.  There are other browsers, including a text-mode browser\nfor people stuck on a text terminal, but I'm most familliar with mosaic.\n\nUnder the page \"The World-Wide Web Virtual Library: Subject Catalogue\"\n(this is available under the Documents menu in mosaic, or by any\nbrowser via the URL \nhttp:\/\/info.cern.ch\/hypertext\/DataSources\/bySubject\/Overview.html )\nthere is a subject \"Space Science.\"  Currently this points to a\npage under construction, with only the NASA JPL FTP archive.  I've\nvolunteered to take over this page, and in fact I have a replacement\nwith all sorts of information pointers (mostly gleaned from the\nsci.space FAQ).  As soon as the overworked \"Subject Catalogue\" \nmaintainer switches the \"Space Science\" pointer, it'll be visible.\n\nI'll post a short note when this happens.\n\n-- \nFrederick G. M. Roeber | CERN -- European Center for Nuclear Research\ne-mail: roeber@cern.ch or roeber@caltech.edu | work: +41 22 767 31 80\nr-mail: CERN\/PPE, 1211 Geneva 23, Switzerland | home: +33 50 20 82 99","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"People who criticize \"big Government\" and its projects rarely seem to\nhave a consistent view of the role of Government in science and\ntechnology.  Basically, the U.S. Government has gotten into the role of\nsupporting research which private industry finds too expensive or too\nlong-term.  \n\n(Historically, this role for the U.S. Gov't was forced upon it because\nof socialism in other countries.  In order for U.S.  industries to\ncompete with government-subsidized foreign competitors, the U.S. Gov't\nhas taken on the role of subisizing big-ticket or long-lead R&D.)\n\nAs a Republican, I abhor the necessity for our Government to involve\nitself in technology this way.  I believe that market forces should\ndrive technology, and the world would be a better place for it.  But\nthe whole world would have to implement this concept simultaneously, or\nsome countries would have subsidized R&D, while others would not.  So\nthe U.S. must subsidize because everybody else does.  (This sounds a\nlot like the farm subsidies arguments behind our GATT negotiations,\ndoesn't it?)\n\nBut this role of Government subsidies is antithetical to\ncost-effectiveness.  The general idea is to spend money on new\ntechnology, and thereby maintain and promote our technological culture,\ndespite the forces in the business world (like the dreaded quarterly\nearnings report) which erode the ability of U.S. industry to invest in\nnew technology.  And since our goal is to spend money, it makes little\nsense to try to save money.\n\nOf course, we could always spend our money more wisely, but EVERYBODY\ndisagrees about that the wisdom should be.  \n\nIt's interesting to note that some of our best tools for cost control\navailable in industry today were derived from Government projects.\nGANTT charts, CP\/M, and most of the modern scheduling software comes\nfrom DoD projects and their contractors.  The construction industry\nhas taken these tools to the core of their businesses; every large\nconstruction project now uses these tools.  \n\n-- Ken Jenks, NASA\/JSC\/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office\n      kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov  (713) 483-4368","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nI think a compromise would work; namely honouring personages in \nConference names, and using geographical references in the divisional \nnames.  Although I still do not think the move will draw fans to the\ngame; IMO it's a cosmetic change that Bettman and the owners _hope_ \nwill have an effect.  And it doesn't say much for the mentality of \nanybody it works on, either.  \n\n\nSurprise, I agree totally.  The points system is fine, if everybody at all\ntimes has played the same number of games.  Since this is almost never the\ncase, winning percentage is the way to go.  I don't particularly care if it \nis an \"American\" thing either, if it works.  \n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I guess that nobody noticed that the calls during the world series (and, in\nfact all year) have been pretty much consistently CORRECT.  Remember: the rule\nsays it's a strike if ANY PART of the ball passes through the strike zone.\n\nI would certainly agree that  high strikes are not called (who could argue\nthis point?) but all in all I think in and out is called pretty well.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"      I am aware of the restrictions imposed by the munitions act\n   on the export of cryptographic technology, however, is it illegal to\n   transmit encrypted data from the U.S. to another country?  If so,\n   then which laws apply to this situation?\n\nFrom the US law perspective, unless you're engaging in illegal speech,\nit's not illegal to use encryption.  Yet.  The NSA is allowed to try\nto listen, but you're not obligated to make it easy for them.  Yet.\nThe other country may have more repressive laws about that;\nI gather France's bureaucracy wants to know what you're saying, \nand in the old Soviet Union, they didn't need laws to make things illegal :-(\n\n(paranoia follows, for those of you who want to play it safe :-)\nThe fact that the NSA is listening may affect your willingness to use\nwimpy crypto technologies, but it may also affect your willingness to\nuse technologies that violate RSA's patents, e.g. if you use PGP, the\nNSA may tell RSA that you're doing so, and if the Secret Service catches on,\nthey may decide that the mere fact that RSA hasn't filed a lawsuit\nagainst you doesn't mean that you don't deserve to have your computer\nconfiscated for possible patent violation, munitions law violation,\nespionage, money laundering, drug importation, and creatin' a disturbance,\nand then not give it back because you *did* violate the patent even\nthough they had to drop all the other charges, unlike that nasty Steve\nJackson who had the gall not to be guilty of *anything*.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\nI bought, on the net here, a mini-tower 386dx25 system.  It works fine, but\nI have no docs on the motherboard.\n\nDoes anyone know who a manufacturer named WPI is?  That is the only marking\non the board that is not related to a chip\/connector name.  It says\n(c)1991, WPI\n\nAlso, this board has a connector at the other end of the motherboard, it looks\nlike this:\n\n\n  +---------------------------------+\n  |  Batt                           |\n  |                        387      |  Socket for 387 math coprocessor\n  |                                 |\n  |                     386         |  386 chip is about here\n  |                                 |\n  | ========= ====                J |  = signs are the ISA slots\n  | ========= ====                M |\n  | =========                     P |  Jumpers for turbo\/kb etc are where\n  | ========= ====         ------ E |  marked\n  | ========= ====         ------ R |\n  | ========= ====         ------ S |  - signs are 8 banks of SIMM sockets\n  | ========= ====                  |\n  | =========          ==== ======= |  <<<These connectors are the mystery\n  +---------------------------------+     connectors!!!!\n                       ^^^^ ^^^^^^^\n                       What is this connector?\n\nIs this a place to plug an extra memory board in?  I've seen thatr mentioned\nin some motherboard docs.  Some allow an 8-meg card and 8 meg in simms.  Is\nthis what it is for?\n\nPhil\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------\nPhil Hunt                          \"Wherever you go, there you are!\"\nHowtek, Inc.\t\t                   ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"a\nfollow-on\n\nGlenn,\n\nThanks for posting that.  I was surprised to notice, however, that one\nquestion I might have expected to be asked was not:  \"Are all forms of\nstrong encryption other than the Clipper to be made illegal?\"  Speaking\nof which, is anyone aware of whether that question *has* been asked of\nany knowledgeable or official spokesperson for the government?  I have\nnot yet seen it mentioned in any of a dozen places it might have been\nreported, but I could have easily missed it.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThe imposed it knowing that Serbia has a stockpile of weapons, and that\nBosnia will have next to nothing to defend itself. Many experts predicted\na Massacre as early as March, 1992, but the Security Coucil knew what it\nwas doing.\n\n.......\n....\n....\n...\n..","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n               ^^^^^^\n\n\tSure they might. If an error is recorded on, for example, a\nground ball, ie the batter would otherwise be out, it is officially a\nhitless at bat. If it's some other type of error (Greenwell lets a\nsingle go by), it doesn't effect the OBP. But, most errors are\ncounted.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nHmm... For more recent lesson what about that little square in China?\n\nAnother lesson might be the one repeated every year in Tibet...\n\nAnd of course there's always El Salvador...\n\nAnd the beat goes on and on...     :^(\n\nMESSAGES FROM GOD:  GET OFF YOUR ASS!  DON'T TRUST THE\nGOVERNMENT!  AT ANY TIME!  FOR ANY REASON!  -THE SCREAMING MAN\n     \nCONNECT THE GOD-DAMNED DOTS!!!  Ministry, TV Song\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Ok, I'm being driven batty.\n\n\nTrying to create popup-menus (ie. button3 press, and a menu\nappears).  I would really like to use the standard Athena\nclasses to achieve this goal, but for my best attempts\nI cannot get the menus to come up without using a MenuButton\nas the parent of the widget tree.  I know this should be\npossible to to with an XtPopupSpringLoaded() and a\nlittle twiddling, but something is escaping me.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"There have been a few postings in the past on alleged pathological \n(esp. neurological) conditions induced by playing video games\n(e.g. Nintendo). Apparently, there have been reported several cases of\n\"photosensitive epilepsy\", due to the flashing of some\npatterns and the strong attention of the (young) players.\nOne poster to comp.risks reported some action from\nthe British Government.\n\nA quick search in a database reported the following two published\nreferences:\n\n1. E.J. Hart, Nintendo epilepsy, in New England J. of Med., 322(20), 1473\n2. TK Daneshmend et al., Dark Warrior epilepsy, BMJ 1982; 284:1751-2.\n\nI would appreciate if someone could post (or e-mail) \nany reference to (preferably published) further work on the subject.\nAny pointer to other information and\/or to possible technical tools \n(if any) for reducing the risks are appreciated.\n\nMany thanks,","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nThis is, shall we say, an overly-broad statement.  In particular, are you\nreferring to the native American culture that existed in 1400, or the one\nthat existed in 1800?  (Simplify things by assuming we're talking about\nthe eastern US rather than the whole continent.)  Given that those were\n*radically* different cultures, which one are you referring to?\n\n\nNote that the pre-Columbian native Americans, east of the Mississippi,\ndid all of these things.  (Well, maybe not \"on Sunday\", but they did\nhave organized religions, not to mention cities and governments.)  If\nyou are judging the native Americans by the tribal culture that existed\nin 1800, you might want to read an account of the De Soto expedition\nto find out what pre-Columbian native American culture, at least in the\nmore civilized parts of the continent, was like.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nIt's pretty complex, and Cd isn't the whole story either.  Cd for cars is\nusually calculated based on the frontal area of the car.  So a large car\nwith a good Cd could get the same drag force as a smaller car with a\npoorer Cd. \n\nTo calculate drag use this formula:\n\nD = 1\/2 * rho * v^2 * Cd * S\n\nWhere D is the drag force (lbs), rho is the local air density (slugs\/ft^3),\nV is the velocity (ft\/s), and S is the frontal area (ft^2).  Note that the\npieces called 1\/2 * rho * v^2 are sometimes called qbar or dynamic pressure\n(a fancy aero term for air pressure or force). \n\nNote that power is:\n\nP = F * v\n\nWhere P is power (lbf-ft\/s), F is the force, drag in this case (lbf) and v\nis velocity (ft\/s). \n\nNote that if you put the whole equation into one (by substituting D for\nforce) you get a velocity _cubed_ term.  That's why huge increases in power\nresult in little increases in speed.  Ditto for decreases in Cd. \n\nSo if you have a 100 mph car and reduce Cd from .34 to .33, your new top\nspeed is:  (sound of trumpet fanfare)\n\n101 mph\n\nSorry to dissappoint.\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nRick, I think we can safely say, 1) Robert is not the only person\nwho understands the Bible, and 2), the leadership of the LDS church\nhistoricly never has.  Let's consider some \"personal interpretations\"\nand see how much trust we should put in \"Orthodox Mormonism\", which\ncould never be confused with Orthodox Christianity.\n\n        In one of his attacks on Christians, the Mormon Apostle Bruce R.\nMcConkie said they \"thrash around in...darkness in trying to identify\nElohim and Jehovah and to show their relationship to the promised\nMessiah.\" He also said Christians are wrong to believe \"that Jehovah is\nthe Supreme Deity [God the Father],\" and that Christ \"came into\nmortality\" as His \"Only Begotten\" Son. McConkie then stated what Mormons\nbelieve today to be the truth about the matter. He said that \"Elohim is\nthe Father\" and \"Jehovah is the Son.\"\n\n  \"Being thus aware of how far astray the religious intellectualists\n  have gone in defining their three-in-one God, it comes as no surprise\n  to learn that they thrash around in the same darkness in trying to\n  identify Elohim and Jehovah and to show their relationship to the\n  promised Messiah. Some sectarians even believe that Jehovah is the\n  Supreme Deity whose Son came into mortality as the Only Begotten. As\n  with their concept that God is a Spirit, this misinformation about the\n  Gods of Heaven is untrue. The fact is, and it too is attested by Holy\n  Writ, that Elohim is the Father, and that Jehovah is the Son who was\n  born into mortality as the Lord Jesus Christ, the promised Messiah.\n  (Promised Messiah, p. 100)\n\n        Notice that McConkie said the Christians are as wrong about\ntheir \"three-in-one God\" and their belief that \"God is a Spirit\" as they\nare in their understanding of who \"Elohim\" and \"Jehovah\" are. Before\nexamining McConkie's attack and its validity, we shall read a few more\nstatements by McConkie and other Mormon sources concerning the words\n\"Elohim\" and \"Jehovah.\" McConkie stated:\n\n  \"...the chief designation of Christ that has been preserved for us in\n  the Old Testament, as that ancient work is now published, is the\n  exalted name-title Jehovah. (Promised Messiah, p. 367)\n\n  \"_Elohim_, plural word though it is, is also used as the exalted\n  name-title of God the Eternal Father, a usage that connotes his\n  supremacy and omnipotence, he being God above all Gods. (Mormon\n  Doctrine, p. 224)\n\n        Agreeing with McConkie on the question of who \"Elohim\" and\n\"Jehovah\" are, the Apostle James E. Talmage stated:\n\n  \"_Elohim_, as understood and used in the restored Church of Jesus\n  Christ, is the name-title of God the Eternal Father, whose firstborn\n  Son in the spirit is _Jehovah_ -- the Only Begotten in the flesh,\n  Jesus Christ. (Jesus the Christ, p. 38)\n\n        \"A Doctrinal Exposition by The First Presidency and the Twelve\"\napostles of the Mormon Church states that \"God the Eternal Father...[is]\ndesignate[d] by the exalted name-title 'Elohim'...\" (Articles of Faith,\np. 466) \"...Christ in His preexistent, antemortal, or unembodied\nstate...was known as Jehovah...\" (Articles of Faith, p. 471)\n\n        Today Mormon leaders teach that \"Elohim\" in the OT refers to God\nthe Father and \"Jehovah\" refers to Christ. McConkie attacked Christians\nfor saying \"Jehovah\" can refer to the Father. He stressed that these two\n\"name-titles\" should not be changed around so that Christ is called\n\"Elohim\" and the Father is called \"Jehovah.\" \"...the Father...is Elohim,\nnot Jehovah.... Jehovah is Christ, and Christ is Jehovah; they are one\nand the same person.\" (Promised Messiah, p. 111)\n\n        In the OT of the KJV of the Bible, the Hebrew word \"Elohim\" is\nused to refer to the true God, false gods and goddesses, and the judges\nof Israel. When referring to the true God, \"Elohim\" is translated with a\ncapital \"G.\" When referring to false gods and goddesses and the judges\nof Israel, it is translated with a small \"g.\" It is translated four\ntimes as \"judges\" (Exod. 21:6; 22:8-9), once as \"judge\" (1 Sam. 2:25),\ntwice as \"mighty\" (Gen. 23:6; Exod. 9:28), once as \"angels\" (Ps. 8:5),\nonce as \"godly\" (Mal. 2:15), once as \"great\" (Gen. 30:8), and once as\n\"very great.\" (1 Sam. 14:15)\n\n        The word \"Jehovah\" is the traditional pronunciation of the\ntetragrammation YHWH or YHVH with the vowel points taken from the word\n\"Adonai.\"  Many people believe the true pronunciation of the\ntetragrammation was Yahweh or Yahveh. However, since \"Jehovah\" rather\nthan Yahweh is the word used by Mormonism, this section will also use\n\"Jehovah\" instead of Yahweh to examine the validity of the claims of\nMormon leaders regarding that name. \"Jehovah,\" unlike \"Elohim,\" is never\nused of false gods. It is the personal name of the triune God of the\nBible. In the KJV, \"Jehovah\" is rendered primarily \"LORD,\" sometimes\n\"GOD,\" and rarely \"Lord.\"\n\n        Now that we understand something about the words \"Elohim\" and\n\"Jehovah\" and their use by Mormon leaders, we shall consider the Apostle\nMcConkie's attack on Christians for believing the Father is \"Jehovah.\"\nIn trying to prove that \"Jehovah\" refers exclusively to Christ, McConkie\ncited several verses from the Bible. Some of these verses and McConkie's\ninterpretation of them will be examined to see whether he was right.\nRemember, McConkie said the Father is not \"Jehovah;\" He is only\n\"Elohim.\" The first example we shall consider involves McConkie's\ninterpretation of Ps. 110:1. Of this verse he stated:\n\n  \"Of whom spake David when his tongue was touched by the Holy Spirit\n  and he testified, \"The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right\n  hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?\" (Ps. 110:1.) Two\n  Lords are here involved: one is speaking to the other; one is greater\n  than the other; one is making provision for the triumph and glory of\n  the other. Who are they and what message is contained in this\n  Messianic prophecy?\n  \"What think ye of Christ?\" our Lord asked certain of his detractors\n  toward the end of his mortal ministry. \"Whose son is he?\" Is Christ\n  the Son of God or of someone else? Is he to be born of a divine Parent\n  or will he be as other men -- a mortal son of a mortal father? That he\n  was to be a descendant of David was a matter of great pride to all the\n  Jews. And so they answered, \"The Son of David.\"\n  David's son? Truly he was. But he was more, much more. And so our\n  Lord, with irrefutable logic and to their complete discomfiture,\n  asked, \"How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, The Lord\n  said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine\n  enemies thy footstool? If David then call him Lord, how is he his\n  son?\" That is, if he is only the Son of David, how is it that the\n  great King, acting under inspiration, calls him Lord and worships him\n  as such? And we might add: _Who is the other Lord, the one who spake\n  unto David's Lord?_ Can there be any question as to how Jesus is\n  interpreting the words of the Psalm? He is saying that it means: '_The\n  Father said unto the Son, Elohim said unto Jehovah_, sit thou on my\n  right hand, until after your mortal ministry; then I will raise you up\n  to eternal glory and exaltation with me, where you will continue to\n  sit on my right hand forever.' (Promised Messiah, pp. 101-102)\n  (emphasis added)\n\n        Agreeing with the above statement by McConkie, the following\nremark in the Mormon pamphlet _What the Mormons Think of Christ, p. 6\nreads: \"The Lord [Elohim, the Father] said unto my Lord [Jehovah, the\nSon]...\" (brackets in original)\n\n        McConkie clearly stated that it is \"Elohim\" the Father who is\nspeaking to \"Jehovah\" the Son in this Psalm. However, when one looks at\nthe Hebrew word translated \"LORD,\" it becomes apparent that either the\nfirst \"LORD\" is not the Father or else the Father is \"Jehovah.\" Either\nway McConkie is wrong. The Psalm reads:\n\n  \"The LORD [Jehovah] said unto my Lord [Adon], Sit thou at my right\n  hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. (Ps. 110:1)\n\n        The first \"LORD\" in this verse is \"Jehovah\" who Mormonism says\nis Christ, not the Father. The second \"Lord\" is the Hebrew word \"Adon\"\n(singular for \"Adonai,\" meaning master or lord). If the first \"LORD\" is\nthe Father and the second \"Lord\" is the Son, then the Father is\n\"Jehovah\" and the Son is \"Adon.\" However, if the Father is not \"Jehovah\"\nas McConkie claimed, then the first \"LORD\" is \"Jehovah\" the Son, but\nwho, then, is \"Adon?\" Obviously the Father is \"Jehovah\" in this Psalm,\nand His Son is \"Adon.\"\n\n        Another example involves Isa. 42:6 about which McConkie stated\nthe following:\n\n  \"I the Lord have called thee in righteousness,\" _Isaiah quoted the\n  Father as saying of Christ_, \"and will hold thine hand, and will keep\n  thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the\n  Gentiles.\" (Isa. 42:6.) (Promised Messiah, p. 81) (emphasis added)\n\n        McConkie said the Father was speaking of Christ in this passage\nwhich reads:\n\n  \"I the LORD [Jehovah] have called thee in righteousness, and will hold\n  thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the\n  people, for a light of the Gentiles. (Isa. 42:6)\n\n        According to McConkie, \"I the LORD\" refers to the Father, and\n\"thine\" and \"thee\" refer to Christ. However, the \"LORD\" who is speaking\nis \"Jehovah\" which means either McConkie was wrong about who is speaking\nor else the Father is \"Jehovah.\"\n\n        Another example involves Ps. 22:7-8. Of these verses McConkie\nstated:\n\n  shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying, He trusted on the Lord\n  that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in\n  him.\" (Ps. 22:7-8.) _The fulfillment, as Jesus hung on the cross_, is\n  found in these words: \"The chief priests mocking him, with the scribes\n  and elders, said, He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be\n  the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will\n  believe him. He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will\n  have him: for he said, I am the Son of God. The thieves also, which\n  were crucified with him, cast the same in his teeth.\" (Matt.\n  27:41-44.) (Promised Messiah, pp. 530-531) (emphasis added)\n\n        Ps. 22:7-8 reads as follows:\n\n  \"All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they\n  shake the head, saying, He trusted on the LORD [Jehovah] that he would\n  deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.\n\n        McConkie said these verses had their fulfillment \"as Jesus hung\non the cross.\" That means the person who was scorned in these verses was\nChrist. Who, then, was the \"LORD\" in whom he trusted? It was \"Jehovah\"\nthe Father.\n\n        Another example involves Ps. 31:13 and Ps. 41:9. Regarding them,\nMcConkie stated the following:\n\n  \"With reference to the conniving and conspiring plots incident to our\n  Lord's arrest and judicial trials the prophecy was: \"They took counsel\n  together against me, they devised to take away my life.\" (Ps. 31:13.)\n  \"Mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my\n  bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.\" (Ps. 41:9.) (Promised\n  Messiah, p. 532)\n\n        Apostle McConkie said these Psalms refer to Christ's \"arrest and\njudicial trials.\" We shall first consider Ps. 31 and then Ps. 41. While\nMcConkie only quoted verse 13 of Ps. 31, verse 14 will also be included\nto give a complete understanding of the matter.\n\n  \"For I have heard the slander of many: fear was on every side: while\n  they took counsel together against me, they devised to take away my\n  life. But I trusted in thee, O LORD [Jehovah]: I said, Thou art my God\n  [Elohim]. (Ps. 31:13-14)\n\n        McConkie said verse 13 referred to Jesus Christ. Verse 14 goes\non to tell that He (Christ) trusted in the \"LORD\" who is called His\n\"God\" or \"Elohim.\" Mormonism teaches that the God above Jesus is\n\"Elohim\" the Father. Verse 14, however, reveals that the \"Elohim\" of the\nman Jesus is \"Jehovah\" the Father.\n\n        In Ps. 41, McConkie only quoted one verse; however, two verses\nwill be considered in this examination.\n\n  \"Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my\n  bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.\n  But thou, O LORD [Jehovah], be merciful unto me, and raise me up, that\n  I may requite them. (Ps. 41:9-10)\n\n        McConkie stated above that verse 9 referred to Judas' role in\nChrist's death. Since it was Judas who was the \"familiar friend\" who\n\"lifted up his heel,\" the pronouns \"mine,\" \"I,\" \"my,\" and \"me\" in verse\n9 must refer to Christ. Notice that at the beginning of verse 10 there\nis a change of pronoun to \"thou,\" which refers to the \"LORD\" (Jehovah).\nThen the pronouns \"me\" and \"I\" which refer to Christ are used again.\nThat means Christ was speaking to \"Jehovah\" the Father in these verses.\n\n        Another example involves McConkie's following remark about Ps.\n        110:4.\n\n  \"One of the great Messianic prophecies, spoken by the mouth of David,\n  ever after the order of Melchizedek.\" (Ps. 110:4.) (Promised Messiah,\n  p. 450)\n\n        McConkie admitted this is a Messianic prophecy involving Christ.\nThe question is, What in this verse refers to Christ?\n\n  \"The LORD [Jehovah] hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest\n  for ever after the order of Melchizedek. (Ps. 110:4)\n\n        Does the \"LORD,\" which is \"Jehovah,\" refer to Christ? If\nMcConkie is right and Jesus is \"Jehovah,\" but the Father is not, then\nthe \"LORD\" would have to refer to Christ. But who, then, is the one\naddressed as the \"priest forever after the order of Melchizedek?\" The\nBible reveals that the one referred to is Jesus Christ (Heb. 5:8-10;\n6:20; 7); therefore, the \"LORD\" (Jehovah) in Ps. 110:4 is the Father.\n\n        Another example involves Isa. 53:4-12. Of these verses McConkie\nstated:\n\n  \"Of the atoning sacrifice of the future Messiah, Isaiah said...\n     The _Lord_ has laid on him the iniquities of us all....\n     It pleased the _Lord_ to bruise him... (Promised Messiah, p. 234)\n     (emphasis added)\n\n        McConkie rightly said these verses refer to \"the atoning\nsacrifice of the future Messiah.\" However, what he failed to mention is\nthat they also prove that the Father is \"Jehovah.\" Verse 6 reads: \"All\nwe like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way;\nand the LORD [Jehovah] hath laid on him [Christ] the iniquity of us\nall,\" and verse 10 reads: \"Yet it pleased the LORD [Jehovah] to bruise\nhim [Christ]...\"\n\n        Obviously the \"LORD\" who laid on Christ \"the iniquity of us all\"\nand who bruised Him is God the Father who is called \"Jehovah\" in these\nverses.\n\n        Remember, McConkie stated that \"some sectarians even believe\nthat Jehovah is the Supreme Deity,\" and that Christ \"came into\nmortality\" as His \"Only Begotten\" Son. He called this concept\n\"misinformation\" that is \"untrue.\" To prove that it is McConkie who is\nmisinformed and believing untruth, two Scriptural references (2 Sam.\n7:14; Ps. 2:7) will be examined. McConkie stated the following regarding\nthese Scriptures:\n\n  \"In the midst of a passage that is clearly Messianic, the Lord says of\n  the Seed of David: \"I will be his father, and he shall be my son.\" (2\n  Sam. 7:14.) In the second Psalm, the whole of which is also clearly\n  Messianic, occurs this statement: \"Thou art my Son; this day have I\n  begotten thee.\" (Ps. 2:7.) Paul quotes both of these statements in\n  Hebrews 1:5 and says they are prophecies that Christ would come as the\n  Son of God. (Promised Messiah, p. 143)\n\n        McConkie cited Heb. 1:5 to show that 2 Sam. 7:14 and Ps. 2:7\nrefer to Christ who \"would come as the Son of God.\" Since McConkie first\nreferenced 2 Sam. 7:14, this examination will, too. However, along with\nverse 14, verses 11-13 will also be included.\n\n  \"And as since the time that I commanded judges to be over my people\n  Israel, and have caused thee to rest from all thine enemies. Also the\n  LORD [Jehovah] telleth thee that he will make thee an house.\n  And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers,\n  I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy\n  bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.\n  He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of\n  his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son. (2\n  Sam. 7:11-14)\n\n        These verses teach that the \"LORD\" (Jehovah) would have a Son,\nthe Messiah.\n        In the second example McConkie cited Ps. 2:7. This examination\nwill include verse 8. Notice that it is the \"LORD\" (Jehovah) who says,\n\"Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.\"\n\n  \"I will declare the decree: the LORD [Jehovah] hath said unto me, Thou\n  art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.\n  Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance,\n  and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.\n\n        McConkie said these verses of Scripture are \"clearly Messianic,\"\nand he acknowledged they teach that \"Christ would come as the Son of\nGod.\" What he is not willing to acknowledge, however, is that these\nScriptures also teach that the Father is \"Jehovah\" and that the\n\"sectarians\" who believe \"Jehovah is the Supreme Deity whose Son\" is\nJesus Christ, \"the Only Begotten,\" are right in their belief.\n\n        Another example involves Mic. 5:4. Of this verse McConkie stated\nthe following:\n\n  \"And so, truly, did our Lord act _during his mortal ministry! Truly,\n  this is he of whom it is written_: \"He shall stand and feed in the\n  strength of the Lord, in the majesty of the name of the LORD his\n  God... for now shall he be great unto the ends of the earth.\" (Mic.\n  5:4.) (Promised Messiah, p. 182) (emphasis added)\n\n        According to McConkie, the pronoun \"He\" at the beginning of Mic.\n5:4 refers to Christ \"during his mortal ministry.\" Who, then, is the\n\"LORD his God?\" Mic. 5:4 reads:\n\n  \"And he [Christ] shall stand and feed in the strength of the LORD\n  [Jehovah], in the majesty of the name of the LORD [Jehovah] his God\n  [Elohim]... for now shall he be great unto the ends of the earth.\n\n        Obviously the \"LORD\" of Jesus Christ is \"Jehovah\" the Father who\nis referred to as \"Jehovah his Elohim.\"\n\n        Another example involves Ps. 2:2 and Isa. 61:1. Of these verses\nMcConkie stated the following:\n\n  \"A number of Messianic passages speak of \"the Lord, and...his\n  anointed\" (Ps. 2:2), signifying that the Chosen One was consecrated\n  and set apart for the ministry and mission that was his. _Jesus\n  applied these passages to himself_ by quoting Isaiah's prophecy. \"The\n  Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek\" (Isa.\n  61:1), and then saying: \"This day is this scripture fulfilled in your\n  ears\" (Luke 4:21). (Promised Messiah, pp. 182-183) (emphasis added)\n\n        The first source McConkie quoted -- Ps. 2:2 -- reads as follows:\n\n  \"The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel\n  together, against the LORD [Jehovah], and against his anointed.\n\n        McConkie said the \"anointed\" one was Christ. If that is true,\nwho was \"Jehovah?\" If \"Jehovah\" is always Christ, who was the \"anointed\"\none? Obviously \"Jehovah\" is referring to God the Father and the\n\"anointed\" is indeed referring to Christ. The second source McConkie\ncited is Isa. 61:1 which states:\n\n  \"The Spirit of the Lord [Adonai] GOD [Jehovah] is upon me; because the\n  LORD [Jehovah] hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek;\n  he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to\n  the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;\n\n        The one who was anointed to preach, bind up, proclaim, and open\nwas Jesus Christ. Who, then, was the one who anointed Him? This verse\nsays the \"LORD\" (Jehovah) did the anointing. Again, we face the same\nproblem. If \"Jehovah\" does not refer to the Father, but only to Christ,\nthen Jesus anointed someone, but who? As McConkie pointed out, \"Jesus\napplied these passages to himself.\" Therefore, the \"Jehovah\" who\nanointed Christ is God the Father.\n\n        Other examples could be cited to show that McConkie and other\nMormon leaders are wrong when they say God the Father is not \"Jehovah.\"\nHowever, these should be enough to expose their error.\n\n        Now, what about Mormonism's claim that Jesus is \"Jehovah,\" but\nHe is not \"Elohim?\" It is true that Jesus is \"Jehovah.\" The following\nScriptures prove this fact:\n\n  \"Thus saith the LORD [Jehovah] the King of Israel, and his redeemer\n  the LORD [Jehovah] of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and\n  beside me there is no God. (Isa. 44:6)\n  [Jesus said] ...I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and\n  was dead... (Rev. 1:17-18)\n\n  \"...saith the LORD [Jehovah]...they shall look upon me whom they have\n  pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only\n  son... (Zech. 12:1,10)\n  Behold, he [Christ] cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him,\n  and they also which pierced him... (Rev. 1:7)\n\n  \"...I am the LORD [Jehovah] thy God, the Holy One of Israel... (Isa.\n  43:3)\n  ...Ye denied the Holy One [Christ] and the Just... (Acts 3:14)\n\n  \"And it shall come to pass that whosoever shall call on the name of\n  the LORD [Jehovah] shall be delivered... (Joel 2:32)\n  \"...the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth...there is none other name\n  under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. (Acts 4:10,12)\n\n  \"Behold, the Lord GOD [Jehovah] will come with strong hand...his\n  reward is with him... (Isa. 40:10)\n  ...Behold, I [Christ] come quickly; and my reward is with me... (Rev.\n  22:12)\n\n  \"...the LORD [Jehovah] my God shall come, and all the saints with\n  thee. (Zech. 14:5)\n  \"...at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints. (1\n  Thess. 3:13)\n\n  \"The LORD [Jehovah] is my shepherd... (Ps. 23:1)\n  [Jesus said] I am the good shepherd... (John 10:14)\n\n  \"...saith the Lord GOD [Jehovah]. I will seek that which was lost...\n  (Ezek. 34:15-16)\n  ...the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.\n  (Luke 19:10)\n\n  \"For I am the LORD [Jehovah] thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy\n  Saviour... (Isa. 43:3)\n  Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great\n  God and our Saviour Jesus Christ. (Tit. 2:13. See also Jer. 42:5 and\n  Rev. 1:5; Mal. 3:6 and Heb. 13:8; 1 Kin. 8:28,39 and John 2:24-25;\n  Isa. 25:8 and 2 Tim. 1:10; Ps. 107:24,29 and Matt. 8:26; Prov.3:12 and\n  Rev. 3:19)\n\n        While Mormons are right when they say Jesus is \"Jehovah,\" they\nare wrong when they say He is not \"Elohim.\" The Bible reveals that\n\"Jehovah\" is the only true \"Elohim\" there is; all others are false.\nRemember, \"Jehovah\" is the personal name of the triune God who has\nrevealed Himself in the Bible.\n\n        Before we consider Biblical quotes which show that \"Jehovah\" and\n\"Elohim\" are not two separate gods as Mormons claims let us first note\nthat not only are both God the Father and Christ addressed as \"Jehovah\"\nand \"Elohim\" but so is the Holy Spirit.\n\n  \"Whereof the _Holy Ghost_..._said_...This _is_ the covenant that I\n  will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my\n  laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; And\n  their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. (Heb. 10:15-17)\n  (emphasis on \"Holy Ghost\" and \"said\" added)\n  Behold, the days come, _saith the LORD_ [Jehovah], that I will make a\n  new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah...\n  I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts;\n  and will be their God [Elohim], and they shall be my people.... I will\n  forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. (Jer.\n  31:31,33-34) (emphasis added)\n\n  \"For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy\n  men of God spake as they were moved by the _Holy Ghost_. (2 Pet. 1:21)\n  (emphasis on \"Holy Ghost\" added)\n  \"The Spirit of the LORD [Jehovah] spake by me, and his word was in\n  my tongue. (2 Sam. 23:2. See also Heb. 3:7-11 with Ps. 95:6-11)\n\n        Let us now continue with the Biblical quotes which show that\n\"Jehovah\" and \"Elohim\" are not two separate gods as Mormons claim.\n\n  \"And when the LORD [Jehovah] saw that he [Moses] turned aside to see,\n  God [Elohim] called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said,\n  Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I.... [Bruce R. McConkie\n  acknowledged that \"it was\" Christ's \"voice that spoke to Moses in the\n  burning bush...\" Promised Messiah, p. 394]\n  And the LORD [Jehovah] said...\n  And Moses said unto God [Elohim], Behold, when I come unto the\n  children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God [Elohim] of your\n  fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his\n  name? what shall I say unto them?\n  And God [Elohim] said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus\n  shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto\n  you.\n  And God [Elohim] said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto\n  the children of Israel, the LORD [Jehovah] God [Elohim] of your\n  fathers, the God [Elohim] of Abraham, the God [Elohim] of Isaac, and\n  the God [Elohim] of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for\n  ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations. (Exod.\n  3:4,7,13-15)\n\n  \"And God [Elohim] spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD\n  [Jehovah]. (Exod. 6:2)\n\n  \"I am the LORD [Jehovah], and there is none else, there is no God\n  [Elohim] beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:\n  (Isa. 45:5)\n\n  \"But the LORD [Jehovah] is the true God [Elohim], he is the living God\n  [Elohim], and an everlasting king... (Jer. 10:10)\n\n  \"Thus saith the LORD [Jehovah] the King of Israel, and his redeemer\n  the LORD [Jehovah] of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and\n  beside me there is no God [Elohim]. (Isa. 44:6)\n\n  \"Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus,\n  saith the LORD [Jehovah], whose name is The God [Elohim] of hosts.\n  (Amos 5:27)\n\n  \"Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD's\n  [Jehovah's] thy God [Elohim], the earth also, with all that therein\n  is. (Deut. 10:14)\n\n  \"Wherefore thou art great, O LORD [Jehovah] God [Elohim]: for there is\n  none like thee, neither is there any God [Elohim] beside thee,\n  according to all that we have heard with our ears. (2 Sam. 7:22)\n\n  \"And he said unto them, I am an Hebrew; and I fear the LORD [Jehovah],\n  the God [Elohim] of heaven, which hath made the sea and the dry land.\n  (Jon. 1:9)\n\n  \"For who is God [Elohim] save the LORD [Jehovah]? or who is a rock\n  save our God [Elohim]? (Ps. 18:31)\n\n  \"Blessed is the nation whose God [Elohim] is the LORD [Jehovah]...\n  (Ps. 33:12. See also Ps. 144:15)\n\n  \"Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God\n  [Elohim], the LORD [Jehovah], the Creator of the ends of the earth,\n  fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his\n  understanding. (Isa. 40:28)\n\n  \"The mighty God [Elohim], even the LORD [Jehovah], hath spoken, and\n  called the earth from the rising of the sun unto the going down\n  thereof. (Ps. 50:1)\n\n  \"Sing unto God [Elohim], sing praises to his name: estol him that\n  rideth upon the heavens by his name JAH, and rejoice before him. (Ps.\n  68:4) [Regarding the word \"Jah,\" Bruce R. McConkie stated: \"Jah\n  (Hebrew Yah) is a contracted form of Jehovah, Jahveh, or Yahweh -- all\n  of which names have reference to Christ, the God of Israel.\" Mormon\n  Doctrine, p. 391]\n\n  \"And David arose, and went with all the people that were with him from\n  Baale of Judah, to bring up from thence the ark of God [Elohim], whose\n  name is called by the name of the LORD [Jehovah] of hosts that\n  dwelleth between the cherubims. (2 Sam. 6:2)\n\n  \"...the Great the Mighty God [Elohim], the LORD [Jehovah] of hosts, is\n  his name. (Jer. 32:18)\n\n  \"O my God [Elohim], make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the\n  wind....\n  Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O LORD\n  [Jehovah]....\n  That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most\n  high over all the earth. (Ps. 83:13,16,18)\n\n        The Bible clearly teaches that \"Jehovah\" is \"Elohim.\" In fact,\nHe is the only \"Elohim\" there is. He is the \"true,\" the \"living,\" the\n\"mighty,\" the \"great,\" and the \"everlasting Elohim.\" He is the \"Elohim\"\nof Israel, of all the kingdoms of the earth, and of the heavens. He is\nthe Creator who made the heavens and all their host and the earth and\nall that dwell thereon. \"Jehovah's\" name is \"Elohim of hosts.\" (Amos\n5:27)\n\n        Not only is \"Jehovah,\" \"Elohim,\" but \"Elohim\" is \"Jehovah.\" The\nBible reveals that \"Elohim's\" name is \"Jah\" (Ps. 68:4), \"Jehovah\" (Ps.\n83:18), and \"Jehovah of hosts.\" (2 Sam. 6:2; Jer. 32:18)   The nation\nwhose \"Elohim\" is \"Jehovah\" is blessed. (Ps. 33:12) Clearly, this is not\nthe \"Jehovah\" and \"Elohim\" of the Mormons.\n\n        Another Mormon error regarding \"Elohim\" and \"Jehovah\" is the\nbelief that \"Elohim,\" not \"Jehovah,\" is the Father of all the spirits,\nincluding Jesus. In the Articles of Faith by Apostle James E. Talmage,\n\"A Doctrinal Exposition by The First Presidency and The Twelve\" apostles\nstates that \"God the Eternal Father...'Elohim,' is the literal Parent\nof...the spirits of the human race.\" (p. 466) This \"Doctrinal\nExposition\" also states explicitly that \"Jesus Christ is not the Father\nof the spirits who have taken or yet shall take bodies upon this earth,\nfor He is one of them. He is The Son, as they are sons and daughters of\nElohim.\" (p. 473)\n\n        The Apostle Talmage stated that \"_Elohim_...is the name-title of\nGod the Eternal Father, whose firstborn Son in the spirit is\n_Jehovah_--\" (Jesus the Christ, p. 38)\n\n        The Apostle Bruce R. McConkie stated the following about this\nmatter: \"...Jehovah-Christ...did in fact create the earth and all forms\nof plant and animal life on the face thereof. _But when it came to\nplacing man on earth, there was a change in Creators_. That is, the\nFather himself became personally involved. All things were created by\nthe Son, using the power delegated by the Father, except man. _In the\nspirit and again in the flesh, man was created by the Father_. There was\nno delegation of authority where the crowning creature of creation was\nconcerned.\" (Promised Messiah, p. 62) (emphasis added)\n\n        Mormon leaders claim that \"Jehovah-Christ\" did not create either\nman's spirit or his body. They maintain that the Mormon \"Elohim,\" who is\nthe father, created man both in spirit and body. The Bible reveals the\ntruth about who created man.\n\n  \"And Moses spake unto the LORD [Jehovah], saying,\n  Let the LORD [Jehovah], the God [Elohim] of the _spirits of all\n  flesh_, set a man over the congregation. (Num. 27:15-16. See also\n  16:20-23) (emphasis added)\n\n  \"...the LORD [Jehovah], which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth\n  the foundation of the earth, and _formeth the spirit of man within\n  him_. (Zech. 12:1) (emphasis added)\n\n  \"...the LORD [Jehovah]...made us this soul... (Jer. 38:16)\n\n  \"For I will not contend for ever, neither will I be always wroth: for\n  the spirit should fail before me, and the _souls which I have\n  made_....\n  ...saith the LORD [Jehovah]... (Isa. 57:16,19) (emphasis on \"souls...I\n  have made\" added)\n\n  \"Behold, I am the LORD [Jehovah], the God [Elohim] _of all flesh_...\n  (Jer. 32:27) (emphasis added)\n\n  \"Thus saith the LORD [Jehovah], thy redeemer, and he that _formed thee\n  from the womb_.\n  I am the LORD [Jehovah] that maketh all things... (Isa. 44:24)\n  (emphasis added)\n\n  \"Thus saith the LORD [Jehovah]...\n  I have made the earth, and _created man_ upon it... (Isa. 45:11-12)\n  (emphasis added)\n\n  \"...God [Elohim] created man upon the earth...\n  Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD\n  [Jehovah] he is God [Elohim]; there is none else beside him. (Deut.\n  4:32,35)\n\n  \"Thus saith God [El] the LORD [Jehovah]...he that spread forth the\n  earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the\n  people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein. (Isa. 42:5)\n\n  \"...Thus saith the LORD [Jehovah] of hosts, the God [Elohim] of\n  Israel... I have made the earth, _the man_ and the beast that are upon\n  the ground... (Jer. 27:4-5) (most emphasis added)\n\n        The Bible reveals that it is \"Jehovah\" who is the \"Elohim of the\nspirits of all flesh\" and \"of all flesh\" itself, that it was He who\n\"formed the spirit of man within him,\" that He \"made us this soul\" and\n\"formed us from the womb.\" He did indeed \"create man.\"\n\n        If Mormon leaders are right when they say Jesus is \"Jehovah,\"\nthen they are wrong when they say he did not create man. If they are\nright when they say the father is the one who created man, then they are\nwrong when they say he is not \"Jehovah.\"\n\n        Although Mormon leaders teach that Jesus did not create man,\nMormon scriptures teach that he did. The BoM states the following:\n\n  \"Behold, I am Jesus Christ. I am the Father and the Son....\n  And never have I showed myself unto _man whom I have created_, for\n  never has man believed in me as thou hast....\n  Behold, this body, which ye now behold, is the body of my spirit; and\n  _man have I created_ after the body of my spirit... (Eth. 3:14-16)\n  (emphasis added)\n\n  \"For it is I that taketh upon me the sins of the world; for it is _I\n  that hath created them_... (Mos. 26:23) (emphasis added)\n\n  \"...the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of\n  Jacob...is that same God who created the heavens and the earth, and\n  all things that in them are.\n  Behold _he created Adam_... (Mor. 9:11-12) (emphasis added)\n\n        D&C, 93:10 states that \"the worlds were made by him [Christ];\n_men were made by him_; all things were made by him, and through him,\nand of him.\" (emphasis added)\n\n        Another error by Bruce R. McConkie involving \"Jehovah\" and his\ncreation is the belief that \"Jehovah\" had \"many\" pre-mortal spirits\nhelping him create. Included in this alleged group was Joseph Smith, Jr.\n\n  \"That he [Christ] was aided in the creation of this earth by \"many of\n  the noble and great\" spirit children of the Father is evident from\n  go down, for there is space there, and we will take of these\n  materials, and we will make an earth whereon these may dwell.\" (Abra.\n  3:22-24.) Michael or Adam was one of these. Enoch, Noah, Abraham,\n  Moses, Peter, James, and John, Joseph Smith, and many other \"noble and\n  great\" ones played a part in the great creative enterprise. (Doctrines\n  of Salvation, vol. 1, pp. 74-75.) (Mormon Doctrine, p. 169)\n\n        The Bible reveals the truth about this matter:\n\n  \"Thus saith the LORD [Jehovah], thy redeemer, and he that formed thee\n  from the womb, I am the LORD [Jehovah] that maketh all things; that\n  stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by\n  myself. (Isa. 44:24)\n\n  \"Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of\n  the sea. (Job 9:8)\n\n        \"Jehovah,\" by Himself, created all things. He had no alleged\npreexistent spirit helpers assisting Him.\n\n        Regarding the Mormon 'Elohim,\" the Apostle McConkie stated:\n\"Elohim. plural word though it is, is also used as the exalted\nname-title of God the Eternal Father, a usage that connotes his\nsupremacy and omnipotence, he being God above all Gods.\" (Mormon\nDoctrine, p. 224) He also stated that \"Jesus...is above all save the\nFather only.\" (Promised Messiah, p. 363)\n\n        The Bible states that the One who is God above all so-called\ngods is the triune God \"Jehovah.\"\n\n  \"For the LORD [Jehovah] is a great God [El], and a great King above\n  all gods [Elohim]. (Ps. 95:3)\n\n  \"For thou, LORD [Jehovah], art high above all the earth: thou art\n  exalted far above all gods [Elohim]. (Ps. 97:9)\n\n  \"Now I know that the LORD [Jehovah] is greater than all gods\n  [Elohim]... (Exod. 18:11. See also Ps. 135:5; Deut. 10:17)\n\n        If Mormon leaders are right when they say \"Jehovah\" is god the\nson and \"Elohim\" is god the father, these verses from the Bible would be\nteaching that the Mormon son is above his father. However, as McConkie\nclearly stated, Mormons believe \"Elohim\" the father, not \"Jehovah\" the\nson, is the \"God above all Gods\" -- that Jesus is above all except the\nfather; yet the Bible teaches that \"Jehovah\" is above all \"Elohim.\"\n\n        At a BYU Dev. on March 2, 1982, Bruce R. McConkie made the\nfollowing remark about praying to Jesus:\n\n  \"Another peril is that those so involved often begin to pray directly\n  to Christ because of some special friendship they feel has been\n  developed....\n  This is plain sectarian nonsense. Our prayers are addressed to the\n  Father, and to him only....\n  ...Perfect prayer is addressed to the Father, in the name of the Son;\n  it is uttered by the power of the Holy Ghost... (Our Relationship With\n  the Lord, pp. 19-20)\n\n        McConkie states on p. 335 of his book Promised Messiah that the\nMormons \"pray to the Father, not the Son...\" On p. 306 of the same book\nMcConkie states that \"Christ [the Son] is Jehovah.\" This is important to\nremember, because although McConkie said prayer is not to be offered to\nthe Mormon Christ who is \"Jehovah,\" the Bible states repeatedly in the\nOT that people prayed to \"Jehovah,\" and He not only heard those prayers,\nbut He accepted them as valid requests. The following is but a small\nsample of the vast number of times people prayed to \"Jehovah.\"\n\n  \"In my distress I called upon the LORD [Jehovah], and cried unto my\n  God [Elohim]: he heard my voice out of his temple, and my cry came\n  before him, even into his ears. (Ps. 18:6)\n\n  \"And the LORD [Jehovah] said unto him, I have heard thy prayer and thy\n  supplication, that thou hast made before me: I have hallowed this\n  house, which thou hast built, to put my name there for ever; and mine\n  eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually. (1 Kin. 9:3)\n\n  \"And said unto Jeremiah the prophet, Let, we beseech thee, our\n  supplication be accepted before thee, and pray for us unto the LORD\n  [Jehovah] thy God [Elohim], even for all this remnant... (Jer. 42:2)\n\n  \"O LORD [Jehovah], I beseech thee, let now thine ear be attentive to\n  the prayer of thy servant, and to the prayer of thy servants, who\n  desire to fear thy name... (Neh. 1:11)\n\n  \"And it was so, that when Solomon had made an end of praying all this\n  prayer and supplication unto the LORD [Jehovah], he arose from before\n  the altar of the LORD [Jehovah], from kneeling on his knees with his\n  hands spread up to heaven. (1 Kin. 8:54)\n\n  \"He went in therefore, and shut the door upon them twain, and prayed\n  unto the LORD [Jehovah]. (2 Kin. 4:33)\n\n  \"Go, and say to Hezekiah, Thus saith the LORD [Jehovah], the God\n  [Elohim] of David thy father, I have heard thy prayer, I have seen thy\n  tears: behold, I will add unto thy days fifteen years. (Isa. 38:5)\n\n  \"I acknowledge my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I\n  said, I will confess my transgressions unto the LORD [Jehovah]; and\n  thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin.\n  For this shall every one that is godly pray unto thee in a time when\n  thou mayest be found... (Ps. 32:5-6)\n\n        Notice above in Ps. 32:6 that the \"godly\" pray to \"Jehovah.\"\nAccording to McConkie and other Mormon leaders, that is Christ the very\none to whom McConkie said people should not pray.\n\n        The Bible reveals there is only one true \"Elohim,\" and His name\nis \"Jehovah.\" All other \"Elohim\" are false. They are idols that cause\ntheir followers to commit adultery against the true \"Elohim\" and\nidolatry.\n\n  \"For the LORD [Jehovah] is great, and greatly to be praised: he is to\n  be feared above all gods [Elohim].\n  For all the gods [Elohim] of the nations are idols: but the LORD\n  [Jehovah] made the heavens. (Ps. 96:4-5)\n\n  \"Thou shalt have no other gods [Elohim] before me. (Exod. 20:3)\n\n  \"Now I know that the LORD [Jehovah] is greater than all gods\n  [Elohim]... (Exod. 18:11)\n\n  \"And it shall be, if thou do at all forget the LORD [Jehovah] thy God\n  [Elohim], and walk after other gods [Elohim], and serve them, and\n  worship them, I testify against you this day that ye shall surely\n  perish. (Deut. 8:19)\n\n  \"Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods [Elohim].\n  They shall not dwell in thy land, lest they make thee sin against me:\n  for if thou serve their gods [Elohim], it will surely be a snare unto\n  thee. (Exod. 23:32- 33)\n\n  \"Take heed to yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn\n  aside, and serve other gods [Elohim], and worship them. (Deut. 11:16)\n\n  \"That ye come not among these nations, these that remain among you;\n  neither make mention of the name of their gods [Elohim], nor cause to\n  swear by them, neither serve them, nor bow yourselves unto them.\n  (Josh. 23:7)\n\n  \"...neither walk after other gods [Elohim] to your hurt. (Jer. 7:6)\n\n  \"But the LORD [Jehovah] is the true God [Elohim], he is the living God\n  [Elohim]... (Jer. 10:10)\n\n  \"And they forsook the LORD [Jehovah] God [Elohim] of their fathers,\n  which brought them out of the land of Egypt, and followed other gods\n  [Elohim], of the gods [Elohim] of the people that were round about\n  them, and bowed themselves unto them, and provoked the LORD [Jehovah]\n  to anger. (Jud. 2:12)\n\n  \"Shall a man make gods [Elohim] unto himself, and they are no gods\n  [Elohim]? Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I\n  will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know\n  that my name is the LORD [Jehovah]. ( Jer. 16:20-21)\n\n  \"And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD [Jehovah], choose you\n  this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods [Elohim] which your\n  fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods\n  [Elohim] of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my\n  house, we will serve the LORD [Jehovah].\n  And the people answered and said, God [Elohim] forbid that we should\n  forsake the LORD [Jehovah], to serve other gods [Elohim]. (Josh.\n  24:15-16)\n\n        These verses teach that the only true, living \"Elohim\" in heaven\nand on earth is \"Jehovah\" -- the triune God who made heaven and earth\nand all therein.\n\n        \"Jehovah\" is greater than any \"Elohim,\" because all other\n\"Elohim\" are idols. The reality behind them is demonic. (Deut. 32:17)\n\"Jehovah Elohim\" has given explicit warnings and guidelines regarding\nthese false \"Elohim.\" He told His people not to have any \"Elohim\" but\nHim. He told the people that if they left Him for the false \"Elohim,\"\nthose \"Elohim\" would be a snare to them, and they would be hurt and\nwould perish. He warned the people to \"take heed\" that their \"heart be\nnot deceived\" into worshiping, serving, swearing by, and making\ncovenants with false \"Elohim.\" \"Jehovah Elohim\" told His people He would\neventually judge all false \"Elohim\" and their followers.\n\n        Despite these warnings and guidelines, \"Elohim's\" covenant\npeople forsook Him and believed in and worshiped the false \"Elohim's\" of\nthe people they came in contact with. Ju. 10:6 states that \"the children\nof Israel did evil again in the sight of the LORD [Jehovah] and served\nBaalim, and Ashtaroth, and the gods [Elohim] of Syria, and the gods\n[Elohim] of Zidon, and the gods [Elohim] of Moab, and the gods [Elohim]\nof the children of Ammon, and the gods [Elohim] of the Philistines, and\nforsook the LORD [Jehovah], and served not him.\"\n\n        This examination has shown that the \"Elohim\" of Mormonism, like\nthe \"Elohim\" in Ju. 10:6 is not the true \"Jehovah Elohim.\" Therefore,\nthe people who leave the true \"Elohim\" for the Mormon \"Elohim\" will do\n\"evil...in the sight of the LORD [Jehovah].\"\n\n        Although McConkie attacked Christians for their belief in a\ntriune God who is Spirit and for their belief that God the Father\n[Jehovah] sent His Son into the world, these beliefs are true. God is\ntriune; He is Spirit; He is \"Jehovah;\" and He did send His Son into the\nworld to redeem mankind.\n\n        It is obvious from this examination that it is not the\nChristians who \"thrash around in...darkness\" about who \"Elohim\" and\n\"Jehovah\" are. One wonders what \"Holy Writ\" McConkie had in mind when he\nstated that it attests to the fact that \"Elohim is the Father, and that\nJehovah is the Son.\" He certainly did not mean the Bible which teaches\nthat the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all the one \"Jehovah Elohim.\"\nHe apparently did not mean the D&C either, because chapter 109, verses\n1,4,9-10, 14,19,22,24,29,34,42,47,56,68,77 refer to the Father as\n\"Jehovah.\"\n\nSummary\n\n        Obviously Joseph Fielding Smith's statement that the Mormons\n\"have a clear and perfect understanding of the nature of God\" (Doctrines\nof Salvation, 1:279) is not accurate. The Mormon gods are not the true\nGod as Mormonism claims, but are idols which cause their followers to\ncommit adultery against God and idolatry.\n\n        In answer to Jesus' question, \"But whom say ye that I am,\"\nMormons say Jesus is someone different from the Jesus who is revealed in\nthe Bible and whom the apostles preached. Therefore, anyone trusting in\nthe Mormon Jesus is believing in \"another Jesus\" whom Paul warned about.\n\n        Bernard P. Brockbank, of the First Quorum of the Seventy,\nadmitted in the May 1977 issue of The Ensign, a Mormon publication, that\nthe Mormon Jesus is different from the Christian Jesus. He stated that\n\"it is true that many of the Christian churches worship a different\nJesus Christ than is worshipped by the Mormons or The Church of Jesus\nChrist of Latter-day Saints.\" (p. 26)\n\n        The people who believe in the Mormon Jesus are committing\nadultery against God and idolatry. They do not have the Son; therefore,\nthey do not have the Father, and they do not have eternal life. As the\nApostle Bruce R. McConkie rightly stated: \"Salvation comes only by\nworshiping the true God.\" (Promised Messiah, p. 163) McConkie also\nrightly stated that \"the mere worship of a god who has the proper\nscriptural names does not assure one that he is worshiping the true and\nliving God,\" because the \"true names of Deity\" can be applied to \"false\nconcepts of God.\" (Mormon Doctrine, p. 270) Remember that the Apostle\nStephen L. Richards admitted that Joseph Smith, Jr., gave \"a new\nconception of God and the Godhead.\" (Contributions of Joseph Smith, p.\n1)\n\n        It is important for the people who have left the true triune God\nrevealed in the Bible to repent and return to Him. They must forsake the\nsins of idolatry and adultery which they are committing in Mormonism.\n\n  \"...all that forsake thee shall be ashamed, and they that depart from\n  me shall be written in the earth, because they have forsaken the LORD\n  [Jehovah], the fountain of living waters. (Jer. 17:13)\n\n  \"And it shall be, if thou do at all forget the LORD [Jehovah] thy God\n  [Elohim], and walk after other gods [Elohim], and serve them, and\n  worship them, I testify against you this day that ye shall surely\n  perish. (Deut. 8:19)\n\n  \"Thou shalt make no covenant with...their gods [Elohim]. (Exod. 23:32)\n\n  \"...Put away the strange gods [Elohim] that are among you, and be\n  clean, and change your garments. (Gen. 35:2)\n\n  \"...flee from idolatry. (1 Cor. 10:14)\n\n        It is necessary that Christians heed the warnings of the Bible.\nIf they do, they will not fall into the sins of adultery against God and\nidolatry. Remember, to know the \"only true God\" is eternal life. (John\n17:3)","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nProviding safety and security for one's own people is the most\nfundamental responsibility of any political entity. For the Palestinian\nleadership to refuse to accept this responsibility, i.e. take the\nresponsibility to protect their people from radical Palestinian elements\nwho are opposed to the peace process, is reprehensible. To argue that a\nPalestinian police force would be established in order to control peaceful\npolitical groups only reinforces the reality that the Palestinian\nleadership, so far, can not exercise control over radical Palestinian\nelements nor effectively deal with the killing of Palestinians by\nPalestinians. This is a problem that can only be solved by the\nPalestinian people.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
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{"text":"\n\nYup. Do it whenever I am in the cage (which is not often if its riding weather\n... ie no snow). I find arm out and down and kinda finger wave works best for\nsport bikes and arm out\/up works best for Harleys. Similar to how I wave when\nI am on the bike.\n\n\nYah mean like..\n\n\nDone what? Why Jody we would never, ever even dream of assuming that a young\nlady of such refined breeding and taste would even consider such things. I mean\nsome matters do not even have to be discussed, by civilized beings...\n\nBut, in confidence, just between the \"two of us\", not even once. Or perhaps\ngot excited thinking about it. I know that I do... ;->","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I recently installed dos 5.0 on a few machines, and the users \nclaim that when they use the mouse often, the screen will blank, and\nthe machine will lock up.\n\nThere are no viruses, they are not running any TSR's.\n(the mouse is a logitec 2 button)\n\nAnybody got any ideas?\n\nthanks","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n    Would you believe that there is a letter in MacWEEK this week from\none of the hardware types at Digital Eclipse. He says that they run\ntests on all of the components to see if they will perform at the\nupgraded speed. If they do not then DESI replaces them with ones that\ndo.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"--\n\nAre the any Opel GT's out there? I'm wondering if there are enough to\nstarting a mail list...\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nMatthew R. Singer                                    MIT Lincoln Laboratory\n(617) 981-3771                                       244 Wood Street\nsinger@ll.mit.edu                                    Lexington, MA 02173","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nI don't think touting contributions is a good idea.  World War II produced\nmany many beneficial spinoffs.  Eg. Radar, jet aeroplanes, rocket technology.\nI don't think anyone would argue that World War II was, in and of itself,\na good thing.\n\nIf you want people to back the space program it must be a good thing in\nand of itself.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nAnyone know if there is an updated driver for Sony DAT drives?  I can't\nget mine to work with our 950 (see \"Sony DAT \/ Retrospect Problems\"\nposted in this group) but I'm also having problems with other new macs...\n\nCheers, Matt.\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"*** Unecessary ...\nmight do it, too much trouble :)\n\n\n*** Agreed Mixali...\n\n\n*** Not entirely true..>\n\n\nTRUE ***\n\nUnecessary ...\n\n\tPath of least resistance (TM) :) :\nGet WinGIF 1.4 from cica (ftp.cica.indiana.edu pub\/pc\/win3\/(desktop?) )\nIt will save to native .rle format unlike PSP (an otherwise fine, fine prog)\nMake a file using anything that has to be less than 30k, as Michael said,\nand less than 16 colors... Import it to WinGIF as gif, pcx or bmp and\nsave it in you windows\/system subdir as vgalogo.rle (NOT .lgo). Exit Win,\nand run setup in the windows subdir. Reselect your _current_ config. Run\nWin. Voila'\n(minor correction: the .rle file has to be <30k. that means ~15k gif ?)\nHope it helps... (and please, please someone put this in the group's FAQ)\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n[...]\n\nThe events I saw were:\n1)  Called strike by Hirschbeck\n2)  Shocked-looking Gant asks for appeal to first\n3)  No appeal to first\n4)  Gant steps out of batters box.\n5)  Hirschbeck *immediately* orders Gant back in.  [bad move]\n6)  Gant ignores Hirschbeck and walks off. [bad move]\n7)  Hirschbeck yells at Gant.  Gant is silent.\n8)  Hirschbeck calls for the pitch.\n9)  Pitch is called a strike.\n10)  Cox argues (couldn't see when he came on the field)\n11)  Cox is ejected, players everywhere\n12)  Play finally resumes.\n\nGant shouldn't have ignored Hirschbeck.  Not returning made the strike\ncall fairly likely.  Although I suspect an argument might have gotten\nGant tossed altogether.  But if Hirschbeck had let Gant step out, the\nwhole incident probably would have been avoided.\n-- \nDale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Teemu Selanne had 3 goals, Keith Tkachuk had one, and Luciano Borsato\nscored a rare Jets shorthanded goal as the Jets held on to beat the\nCanucks 5-4, and close the series to 2-1.  Trevor Linden and Pavel\nBure had two goals each for the Canucks in a losing cause.\n\nSelanne came out of a two game goal scoring slump, scoring two powerplay\ngoals, and one on a nice breakaway pass from Darrin Shannon.\n\nHard work paid off tonight for the Jets, and if the Jets continue to\nexhibit this strong work effort, they can make a series of it. (I woofed\nlast year when we were up 3-1...I ain't going to do THAT again.  I'll\nhave to be quietly happy with a solid performance.  ;)","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Excerpts from netnews.rec.autos: 24-Apr-93 Honda Mailing list? by James\nB. Atkins@prism.ga ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I'm looking for the best source for SIMMs in the USA. I'm not looking for\n   the lowest prices, but rather for the best quality SIMMs and the one with\n   the lowest rate of defective SIMMs. I know the chip Merchant has good \n   prices but they seems to have a high rate of returned SIMMs.\n   Does anyone know how many SIMMs you have to purchase to obtain quantity\n   discount ?.\n   Thank you.\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nYeah!  That's it! :)  You've really outdone yourself this time Nick...\nDon't forget the \"Davidian Muslims\"... :)\n\nIslam is not a race.  It's a religion.  You can be white, black,\nFijian or Alaskan.  I guess you didn't absorb too much of the Malcolm\nX interest circulating.  You see, the whole point of Islam is that it\nstresses equality amongst all peoples.  Now, I do realize this is\ndifficult for you to comprehend given your staunch beliefs in Serbian\nethnic cleansing, but give it a try, it's really not that difficult.\n\n\nThat's right, it's a Disneyland war -- all a setup for the TV cameras.\nThere are also people who believe man never landed on the moon, that\nthe whole Apollo story was done in TV studios...\n\n\nTerms of secession?  You are, of course, joking, right Nick?  Nobody\n*chose* to fight.  Bosnia and Croatia were *internationally*\nrecognized nations when the Serbs attacked and started on their\nwell-documented genocide.  That makes them an outside aggressor.  It's\na simple genocide, a classical example of ethnic cleansing.  There is\nno question of civil war...","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I've found a problem in the use of Xlib functions regarding re-entrancy. I\ndecided to implement an animated cursor (using 6 created cursors) by calling\nXDefineCursor from a SIG_ALRM signal handler. This is used to indicate we are\nwaiting for a operator request to complete. (on a production control system).\nI was redrawing the screen underneath the animated cursor and then restoring\nthe standard cursor when complete. I found dumped core , and upon analysis\nit was when the SIG_ALRM handler was called during a XDrawString call. XDrawString\nwas doing a bcopy (presumably an internal structure) when the XDefineCursor\nwas called. Presumably the (internal) structure that XDrawString was manipulating\nwas not in a stable state and sent XDefineCursor to where it shouldn't have been.\n\nHas anyone else experienced this? Is there any official documentation that\nsays you should ensure this doesn't happen? Or should bcopy() be atomic.\nWe are running on SGI Irix 4.0.1 with X11R4.\n\n\n\n-- \nRegards, Martin","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nGive him the $2, leave the house and call the police.  That's what I would\ndo.  I will not kill to protect mere possessions.\n\nPeace be with you,","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\nI'm looking for RGB (cube) --> HLS (double hexcone) --> HSV (cylinder) \nconversion routines. I have RGB <--> HSV, but miss the HLS <--> RGB\/HSV.\n\nPLEASE E-MAIL ME DIRECTLY, AS I DO NOT GET THIS NEWSGROUP AT MY SITE\n--------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nAny and all help wil be greatly appreciated.\nGert.\n\n--","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nI would be veru interested also, if there is one.\nCould someone please send me some info?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nThere are two things at work here ... the public insurance is very\nwide in what it will cover, as the amortization is also universal.\nNo private plan can boast of a plan that fits a Gaussian curve ...\nand as our private sector has discovered, they're better off not\noffering insurance coverage that their customers are going to use.\n(-;\n\n\nThe alternative to the system is no system at all (patients opted out,\ndoctors opted out, or both).  But that only for insurance ... and you\ncan't force a private insurance company to sell you a plan that they\nwill not offer.  And remember that the actual health care is delivered\nby private entities who collect from the public insurance voluntarily.\nAgain, they can't force a private entity to spring to life to pay them.\n\nPlus, there is the matter of culture and values ... I'm basically\nanti-tax and anti-government, by Canadian standards ... yet I can't\nbring myself to make the same arguments as you do, despite that I\nunderstand where you're coming from.  Up north, you're so much more\nlikely to find someone protesting taxes going to defence than health\ninsurance premiums to only one fund for basic coverage ...\n\n\nYes, primarily in Quebec and in Alberta.  Sorry, I musta lost you in\nthat verbose blurb ...\n\n\nIn Canada and Germany, it's not mandatory.  However, it is negative\noption in that you must request the exemption.  That the private\nsector will not provide private basic coverage if offered the option\n(as in the Quebec case) tells me something about what they know ...\n\n\nYes, but part of the reason is that our most of our markets are\ntoo small to sustain many specialists, sometimes not even one, so\nyou pretty well have to be a GP to get paid.  And if you do get\nthe training, the doctors monopoly might block your getting of a\nlicence because there is already someone in the business and who\ncannot fill his\/her appointment book.  That we have a CMA doctors\nmonopoly is something that the American AMA-oriented medical lobby\nNEVER tells you down here ...\n\n\nNo, I respect people who do specialties (okay, all of my MD friends\nare (-;) but there's the question of our small market dynamics up\nnorth ... if anything, that our private doctors and hospitals sell\ntheir services to Americans to generate more business will inflate\ntheir effective population served, and thus make some specialties\nfinally viable (i.e., there will be enough customers).  We just do\nnot have enough sick Canadians in absolute numbers otherwise.\n\n\nUh ... Germany basically uses our method, with their many sickness\nfunds.  The competition is fake if it exists at all, because they're\nall interlinked.  Look in Der Spiegel or Stern (my girlfriend is in\nour German department  and her uncle is a private practicioner in\nSaarbrucken) ... no ads for health insurance.  While Canada organizes\nby province, Germany organizes the paperwork around big corporations\nand regional offices.   But remember that we have provinces that have\nthe same population as some major German corporations.  Germans have\npublic health insurance, just that it is brokered by smaller entities\n(actually, brokerage of basic by private firms who'll sell extra\ninsurance to fill out their policies, sort of a voucher system,\nwas one of the first ideas floated in Canada, too).\n\nRemember, the Germans don't have HMO's ... a telling sign, 'cos\nRochester does and they're also a company town.\n\n\nI'll have to let a Canadian MD jump in to verify that claim, but\nI've come to learn to suspect anything in the American press about\nour \"system\".  If much or some of it were true, you'd have to take\nus for idiots for tolerating it.  And given that our insurance was\ninstalled during a period when there were only Liberal and Tory\ngovernments federally and provincially, and the socialists are still\nchafing, they would've pressed for real socialized medicine to fix\nthings ... think about it.  After all, we are using the U.S. as a\nmetric to make comparison ... both for keeping-up-with-the-Joneses\nas for confirming that we did something right.\n\ngld","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I'm looking for a copy of Friedman's Riverbank Publication No. 16 \"Methods\nfor the Solution of Running-Key Ciphers.\"  Agean Park Press tells me that their\npublication C-23 \"The Riverbank Publications, Volume 1\" is out of print.  Can\nanyone snail-mail me a photocopy of No. 16?  If someone could it would be much\nappreciated.\n\nRegards,","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n        Interesting, as I think computer technology is now\nbecomming widespread enough now that it is no longer a position\nwhich must require a degree.  I know of several people I work\nwith that make just as much as I do and they don't even have\na BS degree in comp sci. yet they make 28+ a year.  They also\ndidn't have to pay 30 grand to thier local University either. :(\n       I think computer programming is being reduced to a trade\npractice, than a truly specialty field.  It will be even more\nso in the future.\n       If your interested in cutting edge type of stuff and you\nchoose CS as I did, I suggest checking out the emerging field\nof Software Engineering.  The difficulties for example of designing\nscaleable design environments for individuals so that a single person\ncan handle 100,000 to 1,000,000 million lines of code all by himself\nin a reasonable manner and then incorporate that into a teamwork enviroment\nis truly a gigantic problem...not going to be solved any time soon\nunfortunately...but hey you could be the person that provides\nthe missing key for some good groundwork!\n\n\nWell, if your like the poor slobs in the world..like me, you are\nin no financial position to continue Graduate work right out\nof a Top 10 comp sci school.\n\nThe trick is, to find some generous INC you work for to PAY for the\nrest of your education...TRUST ME its the best way to go..even\nif you don't get a TOP salary.  Which I have always been a poor\nslob throughout school but if you follow this rule: BOOK=SALARY=FOOD&SHELTER\nyou should always have a computer and you won't go hungry.\n\nWhat else could a man want?! \n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nOne of my brothers had spent a lot of time practicing bizzare tricks on\nhis megabuck\/micromass bike. He said he once repelled a dog attack by\npicking up the rear of the bike and smacking the dog in the side of the\nhead with the rear wheel. The dog had _no_ idea what hit him, and he\nfled quite rapidly. Then again, he could jump garbage cans without a\nramp, so I don't think I'd care to try this one on a motorcycle.\n\n\nThat's almost unfair, I've never seen a dog that could use a phone. :-)","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Once upon a time, long long ago in this news group, someone\nposted a schematic for a 1-bit A\/D converter.  Well I just found a use\nfor the little monster.  Anyone out there still got this text file?\nIt had a flip-flop, a resistor and a cap, and a comparator\/op-amp I \nthink.  I would be extremely thankful to anyone who could mail me the \nschematic or post it to the news-group.\n\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":" \n\nOh boy, get a small baby and figure out how much brain power they\nhave the first 6 months....\n\nCheers,\nKent","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nVell, this is perfectly normal behaviour Vor a Vogon, you know?","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nThe overhead replay pretty clearly showed that it was the Quebec \ndefender who deflected the puck.  The re-play officials did not \ntake nearly as much time to make this call as they did for the first \nnon-goal, so it seemed pretty non-controversial.\n\nI agree that it was a great game; good to see Roy and Damphousse back\ninto form.  Hopefully the sign of good things to come...","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nHere you give positive, accurate \"facts\" about what happened to the beduins\nand the land:\n\n   After the creation of the State of Israel, 80 percent of the Negev\n   Bedouin were expelled to the Sinai or to Southern Jordan. The\n   10,000 who were allowed to remain were confined to a territory of\n   40,000 hectares in a region were annual mean precipiation was 150\n   mm - a quantity low enough to ensure a crop failure two years out\n   of three. The rare water wells in the south and central Negev,\n   spring of life in the desert, were cemented to prevent Bedouin\n   shepherds from roaming.\n\n   A few Bedouin shepherds were allowed to stay in the central Negev.\n   But after 1982, when the Sinai was returned to Egypt, these\n   Bedouin were also eliminated. At the same time, strong pressure\n   was applied on the Bedouin to abandon cultivation of their fields\n   in order that the land could be transferred to the army.\n\nAnd now you say noone knows anything about what happened there:\n\n   No reliable statistics exist concerning the amount of land held\n   today by Negev Bedouin. It is a known fact that a large part of\n   the 40,000 hectares they cultivated in the 1950s has been seized\n   by the Israeli authorities. Indeed, most of the Bedouin are now\n   confined to seven \"development towns\", or *sowetos*, established\n   for them.\n\n   (the rest of the article is available from Elias Davidsson, email:\n   elias@ismennt.is)\n\nSo what you basically say is that \"we know for sure that nothing good happens\nthere now,  we know for sure that the beduins prospered before the Jews arrived\nand that they were driven away by the Jews,  noone on earth knows about\nwhat the Jews did there.\"\n\nIs that what you said?  Could you proove any of the nonsense you wrote?\n\nBTW,  try asking beduins in Sinai how they mis the Israelis.  Not to mention\nthat there are enough valotaring beduins in the IDF to have at least one full\nbrigade of them.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Following is a short note commenting on den Boer and Bosselaers'\nrecent work on the MD5 message-digest algorithm. Feel free to email\nquestions or further comments.\n\n-- Burt Kaliski\nRSA Laboratories\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\n\\documentstyle[12pt]{article}\n\\begin{document}\n\n\\title{On ``Pseudocollisions'' in the MD5 Message-Digest Algorithm}\n\\author{Burton S. Kaliski Jr. \\\\\n{\\tt burt@rsa.com} \\and\nMatthew J.B. Robshaw \\\\\n{\\tt matt@rsa.com} \\and\nRSA Laboratories \\\\\n100 Marine Parkway \\\\\nRedwood City, CA  94065}\n\\date{April 23, 1993}\n\n\\maketitle\n\nA message-digest algorithm maps a message of arbitrary length to a\n``digest'' of fixed length, and has three properties: Computing the\ndigest is easy, finding a message with a given\ndigest---``inversion''---is hard, and finding two messages with the\nsame digest---``collision''---is also hard. Message-digest algorithms\nhave many applications, including digital signatures and message\nauthentication.\n\nRSA Data Security's MD5 message-digest algorithm, developed by Ron\nRivest \\cite{rfc-md5}, maps a message to a 128-bit message digest.\nComputing the digest of a one-megabyte message takes as little as a\nsecond.  While no message-digest algorithm can yet be {\\em proved}\nsecure, MD5 is believed to be at least as good as any other that maps\nto a 128-bit digest.  Inversion should take about $2^{128}$\noperations, and collision should take about $2^{64}$ operations.  No\none has found a faster approach to inversion or collision.\n\nRecent work by den Boer and Bosselaers \\cite{den-boer-md5} presents\na special kind of ``pseudocollision'' in MD5's\ninternal compression function, which maps\na 512-bit message block $x$ and a\n128-bit input state $s$ to a 128-bit output\nstate. They show how to find a message block $x$\nand two related input states $s_1$ and $s_2$ that yield the same\noutput state: $f(x,s_1)$ = $f(x,s_2)$. Their well-thought approach\nexploits structural properties of the collision function to find \na pseudocollision in about $2^{16}$ operations, much less than one\nwould expect.\n\nPractical implications of this pseudocollision work to the security of\nMD5 are not evident. While a real collision in MD5 implies a\npseudocollision (or a ``pseudo-inversion''), a\npseudocollision need not imply a real collision. Indeed, a real\ncollision, since it involves two different messages, would almost\nalways involve {\\em different} message blocks $x_1$ and $x_2$ such that\n$f(x_1,s_1) = f(x_2,s_2)$, but the pseudocollisions have the same\nmessage blocks. Moreover, the input states $s_1$ and $s_2$ would\ngenerally be unrelated, but the pseudocollisions' input states are\nthe same except for four bits.  There does not seem to be any way to\nextend den Boer and Bosselaers' approach to anything beyond the\nspecial pseudocollisions, a limitation they readily admit.\n\nIt is reasonable, therefore, to believe that MD5 remains secure. While den\nBoer and Bosselaers have found interesting structural properties in\nMD5, the properties seem only to lead to special pseudocollisions\nand not anything approaching real collisions. Further research, of\ncourse, will give a better understanding of the strengths of MD5 and\nother message-digest algorithms, with the eventual hope that\nsuch algorithms can, in some sense, be proved secure.\n\n\\bibliographystyle{plain}\n\\begin{thebibliography}{1}\n\n\\bibitem{den-boer-md5}\nBert den~Boer and Antoon Bosselaers.\n\\newblock Collisions for the compression function of {MD5}.\n\\newblock In {\\it Advances in Cryptology --- Eurocrypt '93}, 1993.\n\\newblock Preprint.\n\n\\bibitem{rfc-md5}\nR.L. Rivest.\n\\newblock {\\it {RFC} 1321: The {MD5 Message-Digest Algorithm}}.\n\\newblock Internet Activities Board, April 1992.\n\n\\end{thebibliography}","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nfoot in mouth again, drew.  the first generation mr 2's were 1.6's which \nwere very smooth.  i'd be real surprised if the original poster was talking\nabout a 1st generation car.  the second generation cars were 2.2 for the\nnon turbo and 2.0 for the turbo.  i drove the non turbo 2.2 and calling it\nunpleasant is to be kind to it.. \n\n\nwrong and wrong.  mitsubishi owns the patent, which has since expired\nwhich is why everybody with a shred of integrity is putting balance\nshafts into their big 4's.. the notable exception is nissan.. and only\nfor the us market suckers.  i guess we need to write to C&D and start\ntelling them to publish graphs for engine vibration over rpm.  then\nyou'll see usenet discussions of the form: engine A has peak\nvibrations 3 dB less than engine B, therefore engine A is better than\nengine B.\n\n1\/2 :-)\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"******* LOWERED PRICES *******\n\n\tI have the following IBM hardware forsale\n\n\tATI VgaWonderXl24 -  This is a great card, it supports 1024x768 256\n colors, 800x600 32k colors, and 640x480 16 million colors.  I found that it\n also speed up windows considerably.  I'm asking $90 o.b.o. for this card.\n\n\n\tI also have 2 2400 internal baud modems.  I have Docs for both but I \n don't have the original boxes.  Both work fine and I'd like to get $20 each or\n $35 for both .\n\n\tBackUPS 400 - Backup power supply that allows CPU and Monitor to \ncontinue to operate up to 30 minutes in event of power failure. Asking $50.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Hockey-tipset, V}ren 1993:\n\t         ==========================\n\n *#*#*#*#* Vinnare av Hockey-tipset 1993... Per Bengtson!!! Grattis! *#*#*#*#*\n\n Slutst{llning:\t\t1. Per Bengtson\t\t15\n\t\t\t2. Lars Andersson\t13\n\t\t\t3. Anders Engwall\t11\n\t\t\t4. Staffan Axelsson\t10\n\t\t\t   Patrik ]sander\t10\n\t\t\t6. Hannu L A Hietanen\t 9\n\t\t\t   Ingvar Khan\t\t 9\n\t\t\t8. noran@cs.tut.fi\t 8\n\t\t\t   Jan Stein\t\t 8\n\t\t\t   Roger Wennstr|m\t 8\n\t\t\t11.Lars Thore Aarhus\t 7\n\t\t\t   Fredrik Nissen\t 7\n\t\t\t   Marek Repinski\t 7\n\t\t\t   Lars Wiklund\t\t 7\n\t\t\t15.Lennart Hedenstr|m\t 6\n\n Vinnare och lycklig {gare av en FBK-mugg {r allts} Per Bengtson,\n kometen som ledde hockeytipset 92 vid halvtid men som sedan fick\n ge vika f|r Anders Engwall i slutspurten.\n\n De tre f|rsta lyckades pricka in den viktiga fr}ga 1.4 SM-guld till Bryn{s.\n Kanske var det v{l sv}rt att tippa slutspelet ocks} men man ser att\n om den j{mna finalen mellan Lule} och Bryn{s ist{llet hade slutat till\n Lule}s f|rdel, s} hade det varit samma vinnare i alla fall.\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n H{r f|ljer de korrekta svaren. Siffran inom parentes anger hur m}nga\n som hade tippat detta. * anger Per Bengtsons vinnande rad.\n\n\n\t1. Elitserien\n\n\t1.1 Tippa den slutgiltiga tabellen.\n\n\t 1. V{ster}s            (7)\n\t 2. Bryn{s              (2)\t*\n\t 3. Malm|               (4)\n\t 4. F{rjestad           (5)\n\t 5. MoDo                (6)\n\t 6. Lule}               (6)\t*\n\t 7. Leksand             (2)\t*\n\t 8. Djurg}rden          (2)\t*\n\n        - - - - - - - - - -\n\t 9. HV 71              (11)\t*\n\t10. R|gle              (12)\t*\n\n\t\n\t1.2 Vilka 4 av de 8 kvartsfinalisterna g}r vidare till semifinal?\n\n\t    Djurg}rden          (4)\n\t    Lule}               (9)\n\t    Bryn{s              (6)\t*\n\t    Malm|              (13)\t*\n\n\t1.3 Vilka 2 lag m|ts i final?\n\n\t    Lule}               (5)\n\t    Bryn{s              (4)\t*\n\n\t1.4 Vilka blir Svenska M{stare 92\/93?   (3p)\n\n\t    Bryn{s              (4)\t*\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n\t2. Allsvenskan\n\n\t   1. V{stra Fr|lunda  (11)\t*\n\t   2. Huddinge          (3)\t*\n\t\t\t\t\n\t  - - - - - - - - - - -\n\n\t   3. Bj|rkl|ven        (5)\n\t   4. AIK               (5)\t*\n\n\t  - - - - - - - - - - -\n\n\t   9. Team G{vle        (1)\n\t  10. Boden             (0)\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"        This one is easy, they 'tape' the conversation, call the FBI or\nSecret Service.  You see \"activities against the Satan Clinton\" could be\nconstrued as a threat against the President of the United States.  I am\nsure they(NSA,FBI,SS,...,...) have enough judges in their collective\npockets to have a warrent before the call is over..... ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n   Yes, Mary is fully human.  However, that does not imply that she was\njust as subject to sin as we are.  Catholic doctrine says that man's\nnature is good (Gen 1:31), but is damaged by Original Sin (Rom 5:12-16).\nIn that case, being undamaged by Original Sin, Mary is more fully human\nthan any of the rest of us.\n\n   You ask why God cannot \"repeat the miracle\" of Mary's preservation\nfrom Original Sin.  A better way to phrase it would be \"why _did_ He\nnot\" do it that way, but you misunderstand how Mary's salvation was\nobtained.  Like ours, the Blessed Virgin Mary's salvation was obtained\nthrough the merits of the Sacrifice of Christ on the Cross.  However, as\nGod is not bound by time, which is His creation, God is free to apply\nHis Sacrifice to anyone at any time, even if that person lived before\nChrist came to Earth, from our time-bound perspective.  Therefore,\nChrist's Death and Resurrection still served a necessary purpose, and\nwere necessary even for Mary's salvation.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"In <faUk03m6d0Kq00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>,\n\tdated 29 Apr 93 15:43:10 GMT,\n\nI'll agree with your wife.  While I was a student, I had doctors remove\nrather surprising amounts of wax from my ears by flushing them out a couple\ntimes, usually because they were examining my ears for some other reason, and\nsaid something like \"Gee, you've got a lot of wax in there\".  In my case,\nremoval of these large wax buildups did noticeably improve my hearing, and\nI've since gotten in the same habit as your wife of flushing them out with\nwarm water from a little rubber bulb every few months.  You can buy little\nbulbs together with ear drops for this express purpose from the drug store -\nI don't notice that the drops accomplish much of anything.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nAttention please!\n\nAccording to the rules of usenet flame wars, once a discussion degenerates\nto the point where Hitler is mentioned, that flame war may be declared\nended.  I would like to take this opportunity to do that now.  Clearly\nfurther discussion is not useful with the current set of facts, and the\ncurrent name calling and invocation of Hitler's name is not productive even\nby the standards of usenet talk groups.\n\nIf you must continue, please don't discuss this in misc.legal.  It's not\nabout the law.  If you would like to discuss the law as it applies to the\nWaco incident, please ask questions of the form: \"if the FBI started the\nfire accidentally, who would be legally responsible for the deaths\".\n\nNote that followups are set not to include misc.legal.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nIs your stomach all right? Unable to digest your lunch?\nCool down... In the context of Bosnia muslims are a nation.\nAnd nobody talked about them being a race.\n\n\n\nAnd Yugoslavia was a recognized nation. If you apply the principle \nof self determination to Yugoslavia then you should apply it to\nCroatia and Bosnia. Of course, you might want to apply again to\nKossovo.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I have a mac plus with 2.5MB RAM. I have just bought an extra 2MB so that\nI can have the max 4MB RAM that a plus supports. However, I can't get it\nto boot after I install the 2 extra SIMMs. Instead I get a sad mac (Sorry,\nbut I can't remember the code). Looking at the motherboard, I can see\nthat 2 resistors have been snipped off where it says \"256Kb path -\n1 row\". I assume that was done when the first 1MB SIMMs were added.\n\nSo, my question is: Are there any other resistors that need snipping? \n\t\t\t\tor, Do I have bum SIMMs which need to be exchanged?\n\nAny and all advice will be appreciated.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Hi, \n\tCould some please tell me the errors of my ways. \n\tI am trying to update a drawable. This drawable \n\thappens to be a Pixmap on a button. \n\t\n\tThe problem is that after I do the :\nXClearArea(XtDisplay(m_usr[0]),XtWindow(m_usr[0]), 80, 8, 40, 40, True);\n\n\tThis appears to work. I then do\n\nsprintf(tmp_str,\"R=%d\",++fun);\nXDrawString(XtDisplay(m_usr[0]), bmaps[0] ,my_gc, 78, 10, tmp_str, (strlen(tmp_str)) );\n\n\tThe problem is that the new info is drawn but the old info is\n\tstill there. Even if I pass XClearArea a False and see it clear\n\twhen it redraws the new info, the old info is still there.\n\n\nHelp Please!!!\n        Thanks\n-- \n------------------------------------------------------------------------     \nRandy Paries           rtparies@turq.b8.ingr.com\nx6191  cr041           Intergraph, Huntsville Alabama","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"So if Potvin can pound on Dino, what happens when Dino pounds \non him?  If Dino gets his legs slashed, can he slash Potvin\nin return?  This year at a UM-LSSU hockey game, a UM player\nwas called for a slash when he hit the goalie's glove with\nhis stick.  Is that slashing, while hitting someone's ankles\nisn't?  How do the refs know what to call?  Do the goalies\nget more liberties than other players?\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"# \n# Q: When an Israeli pilot is bombing school children in Lebanon gets\n#    shot down, and crashes head-first, what's the last thing that \n#    goes into his mind (head)?\n# \n# A: His butt hole.    \n\n  Now this HAS to count as one of the most original and constructive\n  contributions yet on tpm.  All in all, well worth the $$$$ it took\n  to send it to thousands of computers all over the world.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Josip,\n\nplease, don't be offended at this question: Who are the \"Muslims\" in the\nBosnian context? i know that a moslem\/muslim is a believer in Islam. Islam \nis a religion and it is practised in many parts of the world. But it is not\n, yes definitely not, an ethinic group. ok! so, these Bosnian Muslims, who\nare they? to which ethnic group do they belong? what language(s) do they\nspeak? do they have a different language from that of the Serbs or Croats? \nthe way the western press use the word 'muslim' in this Bosnian debacle has \nkept me wondering when the meaning of muslim\/moslem i knew from childhood was \nchanged in the dictionary. this is just a question. no flames intended!","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"OFM Comments:\n\n\nNo disagreement at all that there is a VERY serious struggle going on.\nBut Jesus more typically uses consequences as a threat.  That's quite\ndifferent from Hell Classic (TM). :-) Jesus doesn't sound like the\nusual hell-fire type of preacher.  He attracts people through what he\ndoes. And the stongest example in Jesus preaching is in the parable of \nLazarus and Dives, which is a parable!  In any case, my point is that\na fear-based response to Christ is not a freeing, life-affirming choice\nand isn't Good News in a meaningful sense.  There are plenty of good \nreasons to follow Jesus that have nothing to do with fear or a literal \nhell, that still pertain to overcoming in the present struggle between \nGod and the Disloyal Opposition.  A faith based in fear is not built\non Rock, as we should found our faith, but on ice.  If the fear were\nremoved, there would BE no foundation.  \n\nThat's basically why it matters to me.  I think we have many Christians \nthat DON'T have a solid basis for relating to the living Incarnate God.\nI cannot be fully open to the working of God in and through my life if\nmy response to God is motivated on fear.  \n\nLarry Overacker (llo@shell.com)\n\n-- ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I'm trying to get in touch with Mitsumi - anyone have their number?\n\n-- \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n ---  ---    Frank Pikelner                                          \/~\\\n \\    \\  \\   Technical Assistant, Department of Computer Science    <v.v>\n  \\-   \\--   York University (Toronto, Canada)                      ,\\^\/;\n   \\    \\    Internet: frank@cs.yorku.ca                            _{!}_","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"                                ^^^^^^^^^^^\nExquise me!? Since when does mankind consider twice to be equal??\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\ngood point.  the \"list\" actually started out as an extension of my GS\nv. FJ shootout list, which is why it got that name.  since inception,\nhowever, other boxer-interested folks have joined and the conversation\nhas not always been \"geared\" to gs\/pd\/st-specific topics.\n\n\nwhen i raised the \"to expand or not to expand\/that is the question\"\nquestion on the list itself, there were mixed feelings.  the list has\nalways been open to anyone with a non-bouncing \"from:\" line and there\nhas been general agreement that only boxer-related stuff is\nappropriate.  almost all of the subscribers own R80\/R100 GS\/ST\/PD\nbikes, although some R, RT and RS owners are also on it.\n\nat this point, my main interest for the list is to preserve the peace\nand comraderie while at the same time providing as wide access as\npossible.  the list is fairly technical, with \"how do i do this?\",\n\"what kind of that should i get?\" kinds of questions.  there has yet\nto be any non-BMW bashing, K bike bashing, or \"any bmw mfg'd after\n1962 is a piece of shit\" bashing.  such posts are, by consent of the\ngoverned, proscribed.\n\nif the simple name change would make a significant difference to the\nnet.boxer.owners, then i am not going to stand in the way of progress.\n\nso, hesh, let me turn the question around: have you (or has anyone\nelse) not joined the list because you felt your boxer was excluded?\n-- \n-- bob pasker\n-- rbp@netcom.com","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n  First, I don't expect them to love me if they don't even know I\n  exist.  Secondly, I wouldn't expect them to love me simply because\n  they were my creator.  I would expect to have to earn that love.\n\n\n  Are you daft?  How do I love something I don't believe exists?\n  Come back when you've learned to love your third testicle.\n\n\n  At which point you have stepped over the line and become a\n  complete asshole.  Even though it's your first offense, I won't\n  let it slip becuase I've heard it too goddamned many times.\n\n  You love Jesus because deep in your heart you're a cannibalistic\n  necrophiliac.  Because I say so, and I'm much more qualified to\n  assess your motivations than you are.\n\n  Fortunately, there are some things I get to accept on evidence\n  rather than faith.  One of them being that until christians like\n  yourself quit being so fucking arrogant, there will never be\n  peace.  You've all made sure of that.\n\n\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\ \n\nBob Beauchaine bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM \n\nThey said that Queens could stay, they blew the Bronx away,\nand sank Manhattan out at sea.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Speaking of educational systems, I recently had a colleague\ntell me that the reason one of our fifth grade students is so\nphysically developed is because she was sexually abused as a younger\nchild. This, she went on to say, kicks the pituitary gland into\naction and causes puberty.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Wow!  It's sad to see that the University of Virginia has begun\nto produce such a virulent breed of Jew-haters and self-hating\nJews!  \n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nWow, what did you use it for?  Single-tasked word processing?\nI have 8 files loaded right now and a 29-MB virtual machine (12MB of\nRAM). My friend down the street gripes that he can't even format a\nfloppy in the background.  Many unix people love OS\/2 because they are\nused to multi-tasking systems. \n\n\n\nToo bad they hold a gun to the mouse piper while they\nthrow mice at their \"new\" trap, trying to get it to work. :)\n\n ---------------------------------------------","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Here's an interesting table showing how much resources an application\nuses and how much it gives back on shut down.  This is take from\nWindows User May 1993 issue:\n\n\nApplication\t\tMin. Resource Use\tResource Not Returned\n\t\t\tGDI\tUSER\t\tGDI\tUSER\n\nWinSleuth Gold v3.03\t10\t6\t\t2\t14\nWord For Windows v2.0b\t10\t0\t\t5\t0\nLotus 123 v1.1\t\t13\t3\t\t3\t2\nArts and Leters v3.12\t7\t7\t\t3\t1\nPowerPoint v3.0\t\t9\t1\t\t3\t0\nCorel Draw v3.0\t\t10\t6\t\t3\t0\nMicro. Designer v3.1\t10\t2\t\t2\t0\nCrossTalk v2.0\t\t0\t0\t\t0\t0\nExcel v4.0a\t\t11\t8\t\t0\t0\nHiJacck v1.0\t\t2\t2\t\t0\t0\nImage-In Color Pro\t3\t2\t\t0\t0\nPIcture Publisher v3.1\t21\t8\t\t0\t0\t\nPowerLeads!-\n  Executive Ed. v1.03\t0\t5\t\t0\t0\nAdobe Type Manager v2.5\t1\t0\t\tNA\tNA\nSkylight v2.0\t\t1\t0\t\t0\t0\n\n*The numbers are in percentage and are in a decreasing order.\n\nWhat does this table tells you, if you frequently start and exit a\nprogram that doesn't give back all of it's resources, then you\ncontinually lose these resouces.  Therefore, only open these programs\nup once and leave them open.\n\n\nBTW:  Maybe people can add to this list so we know what application to\nwatch out for.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"That more or less says it.  I flicked the Penguins game on briefly and saw\nUlf cross-check Valeri in the face.  I am wondering if Don Cherry is going to\ngo off on this at all in coach's corner.\n\nbillc","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nJust to throw it out there:  The mass of the telescope is 11,600 kg \n(25,500 lb).  I do not know what Space lab weighs, but I believe it is\nless.  Can anyone verify??\n\nAlso, remember that weight was not the only concern, as many others have \nnoted, just one possible concern.  I was responding to a statement that\nif you can boost it, why can't you land it.  Those are too different\nproblems.\n\nROB\n-- \n===========================================================================\n===========================================================================\n\nDisclaimer-type-thingie>>>>>  These opinions are mine!  Unless of course \n\tthey fall under the standard intellectual property guidelines. \n\tBut with my intellect, I doubt it.  Besides, if it was useful\n\tintellectual property, do you think I would type it in here?","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
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{"text":"Need info on Circumcision, medical cons and pros\n\n\nI'm very surprised that medical schools still push routine circumcision\nof newborn males on the population. Since your friend is not a man, she\ncan't imagine what it's like to have a penis, much less a foreskin. I\nguess if American medicine did an artistic job of circumcising every\nmale, then the visual result would be somewhat more natural in\nappearance...","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I was wondering what the country extension are.\nSometimes I just don't have a clue from where\nsome people are writing.\n\nThese are the extensions I know of\n\nch   Switzerland\nse   Sweden\nfi   Finland\nuk   UK\nCom  US?\nEdu  US?     (are both com and edu US?) \nfr   France\n\nPlease feel free to add to this list.\n\n\/ Markus\n\n__________________________________________________________________________\n   _    _     _     ____              _________        \n  \/ |  \/ |   \/ |   \/   \/ \/  \/  \/   \/ \/       \n \/  | \/  |  \/__|  \/___\/ \/--|  \/   \/ \/___     '75 Chevy Camaro 350\/TH350\n\/   |\/   | \/   | \/   | \/   | \/___\/ ____\/     '87 Peugout 205 1.4\/4-speed","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"} \n} >I watched the final inning of Bosio's no-hitter with several people at\n} >work. After Vizquel made that barehanded grab of the chopper up the\n} >middle, someone remarked that if he had fielded it with his glove, he\n} >wouldn't have had time to throw Riles out. Yet, the throw beat Riles\n} >by about two steps. I wonder how many others who watched the final out\n} >think Vizquel had no choice but to make the play with his bare hand.\n} \n} In this morning's paper (or was it on the radio?), Vizquel was quoted as\n} saying that he could have fielded the ball with his glove and still\n} easily thrown out Riles, that he barehanded it instead so as to make the\n} final play more memorable.  Seems a litle cocky to me, but he made it\n} work so he's entitled.\n\ni guess so.\nstill, that's kind of a stupid move, IMO. he'd be singing a different\ntune if he had booted it, and the next guy up had hit a bloop single.\nstranger things have happened (hey, i used to be a big Dave Stieb fan...)\nand unfortunately, there's no such thing as an \"unearned hit\". :^)\n\ncheers,","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"For Sale (still) - \n\nAUDIO SOURCE Model EQ Eleven\n\n10-band Stereo Octave Equalizer With Specturm Analyzer Display\n\nDigital Readout, 10Left\/10Right controls over the spectrum.\n\nGreat to boost all kinds of music signals.  FM Broadcasts, Tapes, CDs...\nMakes even the weakest recording sound great.\n\nPurchased 1 year ago $189.  Asking $75.00.\n\nIncludes original packaging, manuals, cables and warranty card.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"The following comics are for auction.  The highest bid takes them! \n\nNew stuff added!! (Cyberrad, Marvel Presents, Spiderman Special, etc..)\n\nTITLE                                                   Minimum\/Current \n--------------------------------------------------------------\nAlpha Flight 51 (Jim Lee's first work at Marvel)\t$ 5.00\n\nAliens 1 (1st app Aliens in comics, 1st prnt, May 1988)\t$20.00\/KrisM.\/SOLD\n\nAmazing Spider-Man 136 (Intro new Green Goblin)         $20.00\n\nAmazing Spider-Man 238 (1st appearance Hobgoblin)\t$50.00\n\nArcher and Armstrong 1 (Frank Miller\/Smith\/Layton)\t$ 7.50\n\nAvengers 263 (1st appearance X-factor)                  $ 3.50\n\nBloodshot 1 (Chromium cover, BWSmith Cover\/Poster)\t$ 5.00\/SamE\/TWICE\n\nCyberRad 1 (Reintro CyberRad, Prestige silver edition)\t$15.00\n\nDaredevil 158 (Frank Miller art begins)                 $35.00\n\nDark Horse Presents 1 (1st app Concrete, 1st printing)\t$ 7.50 \n\nDetective 657 (Azrael appears, Intro Cypher)\t\t$ 5.00\n\nDetective 658 (Azrael appears)\t\t\t\t$ 4.00\n\nHarbinger 10 (1st appearance H.A.R.D. Corps)\t\t$ 7.00\/B.Matthey\/SOLD\n\nH.A.R.D. Corps 1 \t\t\t\t\t$ 5.00\n\nIncredible Hulk 324 (1st app Grey Hulk since #1 1962)\t$ 7.00\n\nIncredible Hulk 330 (1st McFarlane issue)\t\t$15.00\n\nIncredible Hulk 331 (Grey Hulk series begins)\t\t$11.00\n\nIncredible Hulk 367 (1st Dale Keown art in Hulk)        $15.00\n\nIncredible Hulk 377 (1st all new hulk, 1st prnt, Keown) $15.00\n\nMarvel Comics Presents 1 (Wolverine, Silver Surfer)     $ 7.50\n\nMarvel Presents (Charleston Chew giveaway, Sam Keith)\t$ 5.00\n\nMaxx Limited Ashcan (4000 copies exist, blue cover)\t$33.50\/BrentB\/SOLD\n\nMr T. #1 (Signed Advance copy, 10,000 exist)\t\t$10.00\n\nNew Mutants 86 (McFarlane cover, 1st app Cable - cameo)\t$10.00\n\nNew Mutants 100 (1st app X-Force)                       $ 5.00\n\nNew Mutants Annual 5 (1st Liefeld art on New Mutants)\t$10.00\n\nOmega Men 3 (1st appearance Lobo)                       $ 7.50\n\nOmega Men 10 (1st full Lobo story)                      $ 7.50\n\nPower Man & Iron Fist 78 (3rd appearance Sabretooth)    $20.00\n\nPower Man & Iron Fist 84 (4th appearance Sabretooth)    $15.00\n\nSimpsons Comics and Stories 1 (Polybagged special ed.)\t$ 7.50\n\nSpectacular Spider-Man 147 (1st app New Hobgoblin)      $12.50\n\nSpider-Man Special (UNICEF giveaway, vs Venom)\t\t$10.00\n\nStar Trek the Next Generation 1 (Feb 1988, DC mini)     $ 7.50\n\nStar Trek the Next Generation 1 (Oct 1989, DC comics)   $ 7.50\n\nTrianglehead #1 (Special limited edition, autographed)\t$ 5.00\n\nWeb of Spider-Man 29 (Hobgoblin, Wolverine appear)      $10.00 \n\nWeb of Spider-Man 30 (Origin Rose, Hobgoblin appears)   $ 7.50\n\nWolverine 10 (Before claws, 1st battle with Sabretooth)\t$15.00\n\nWolverine 41 (Sabretooth claims to be Wolverine's dad)\t$ 5.00\n\nWolverine 42 (Sabretooth proven not to be his dad)\t$ 3.50\n\nWolverine 43 (Sabretooth\/Wolverine saga concludes)\t$ 3.00\n\nWolverine 1 (1982 mini-series, Miller art)\t\t$20.00\n\nWonder Woman 267 (Return of Animal Man)                 $12.50\n\nX-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, X-Force card)     $20.00\n\nX-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Shatterstar card) $10.00\n\nX-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Deadpool card)    $10.00\n\nX-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Sunspot\/Gideon)   $10.00\n\n\nAll comics are in near mint to mint condition, are bagged in shiny \npolypropylene bags, and backed with white acid free boards.  Shipping is\n$1.50 for one book, $3.00 for more than one book, or free if you order \na large enough amount of stuff.  I am willing to haggle.\n\nI have thousands and thousands of other comics, so please let me know what \nyou've been looking for, and maybe I can help.  Some titles I have posted\nhere don't list every issue I have of that title, I tried to save space.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nOpen up one of the airbag control boxes.  They have inexpensive piezoelectric\naccelerometers in them.  I know that the GM cars use the Setra units.  The\ncheapest way to get such an accelerometer is to cannibalize an existing\nautomotive unit.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nI think you are, small, feeble minded, bunghole.\n\n\nYeah, it was one stupid little act.\n\nWhen are people like you gonna get it through they're thick\nexcuses for a skull to their pea-sized piece of shit they\ncall a brain that it _was_ _once_?\n\nwhy don't you go back under the rock that the navy has provided\nfor you and your homophobic racist sexist asshole \"friends\" that\nwho give you daily rim jobs and place your opinion where it belongs,\nUP YOUR ASS!?\n\nOr, alternatively, blow me, you closeted wannabe.\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nI found the personal attacks on Prof. Denning pretty disgusting.\nI don't agree with all her positions; but I think scholars can\ndisagree without the argument getting into the gutter.\n\nIf these personal attacks are what stopped Prof. Denning from\nreplying on issues of substance, they have cause real harm\nto the serious debate here.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nFor the information of those not \"lucky\" enough to live in the city of\nAustin, TX, if an auto a\/c system is checked and found to have leaks,\nit must be repaired at that time, or evacuated.  This is an ordinance\nunique (I think) to the city of Austin.\n\nFreon is subject to increasing taxes, but $12 is about 2X cost here.\nRecovered freon is not required to be \"purchased\" from the car it is\nwithdrawn from.  As a matter of practice, some shops here are charging \na recycling fee that is less than the cost of the freon removed if it \nis reintroduced to the system.\n\nJust another quality service from an _Enviornmentally Conscious_ city.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nObviously, we have different sources. Bill Moyers (who happens to be a\ntheist, to tie this to alt.atheism!) in his PBS documentary \"After The\nWar\" is my main source. (I think I still have it on videotape.) Others\ninclude The Nation and The Progressive.\n\nThe rest of the article is mere rationalisation. You may claim that\nsanitation plants are strategic \"legitimate\" targets, but what happens to\nthe civilians in a city with no sewer system? What happens to the\ncivilians when you destroy water purification plants? And when hospitals\ncan't handle the resultant epidemics, because there is no more electricity?\n\nAnd what exactly are your sources? We have all, I'm sure, seen Postol's\ninterviews in the media where he demostrates how the Pentagon lied about\nthe Patriot's effectiveness; what is your source for the 70%\neffectiveness you claim?\n\nIn any case, I don't know if this is relevant to alt.atheism. How about\nif we move it somewhere else?\n\n-s","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nICS - Integrated Computer Solutions Incorporated\n      201 Broadway\n      Cambridge, MA  02139\n      Vox: (617) 621-0060\n      Fax: (617) 621-9555\n      Email: info@ics.com\n\n      Circle 9 on Reader Service Card\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nIt has been a while since I knew the electronics of ham radio, but I seem\nto remember that PeP is actually 4x the \"real\" power.  Which makes 1KW PeP\nactually around 250W.  Or was it 2x?  I disremember.\n\n\"Effective transmitted power\" is also \"odd\", in that it takes into account\nantenna height and geometry.  Which is why a TV station with a 50KW Klystron\nmight advertise a megawatt (if their antenna is on the top of the\nCN tower ;-).\n\nThis is like Sears HP ;-)\n\nThough, 1500 real watts still isn't impossible.  About 125-150A with\na 12V alternator, less if the alternator produces higher voltages.\n\nIt's only three horsepower (taking into account inefficiencies).  You'll\nfeel it when you hit the key.  But not too much.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Can anyone out there tell me why they call left-handed pitchers\n\"Southpaw\"?\n\nAlso the story on how the term originated.\n\nThanks!! \n\n\nGo Cubs! ","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Grr. Hate the bastard who picked the weather for today.\n \n Went up to visit a friend overnight (about 45 minute ride).. rode up after \nwork, only minor drizzing for the last 5 minutes of the ride... rest of the \nride was very zen.\n \n Got up this morning, needed to go home and get some disks & stuff to work \non her computers with, rainy as all hell. Soaked and cold by the time I got \nhome.\n \n Since I didn't have another set of thermals which were dry, I said \"to heck \nwith it\" and drove my cage back up.\n \n Lo and Behold, those funny blue clouds were up in the sky and this warm \nyellow thing I haven't seen in quite awhile showed up when I was 10 minutes \ninto the trip.\n \n And me in my cage. Oh JOY.\n \n \n Happily, my right hand mirror finally showed up at the dealer (dropped the \nbike when I first got it, put on an EMGO replacement mirror... hated it the \nentire time that thing was on my bike because I couldn't see a DAMNED thing \nthrough it, plus it's flat instead of convex like the stock mirrors, so you \nget a NARROW ANGLE wobbly blur)... And I got a replacement windshield for my \nfairing (dropped the original and chipped the front edge... cosmetic but \nannoying)... so I spent half an hour happily unscrewing things and replacing \nthem this afternoon.\n \n 'Bout the only thing I still hate about the bike ('75 CB360T) is the damned \n\"2 D-Cell Flashlight\" headlight.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nTis' only a gleam in my eye at this point.  I have yet to chose a tracking \nmethod.  The initial requirement was to design a system to locate a dancer\nin one of eight zones across the stage.  I did some experiments with \npyroelectric detectors and found them difficult to align to get a definite\nzone transition.  And dancers stand still alot, so their IR signature goes\naway.  The good thing about pryoelectrics is that their signal is proportional \nto the size of the warm body (or body part), and the velocity of said body.\nThis could be useful for detecting the intensity of a dance gesture.\n\nDancers also really hate to wear little boxes and batteries strapped on their \nbodies, but they really need to be emitting some kind of signal to be tracked.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nThe \"R Us\" thing is trademarked.  I don't know if Charles\nLazarus is dead or alive, but I'd be careful, because with\na name like Lazarus, he might rise again just to start a\nlawsuit.\n\nDean Kaflowitz","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nMurry,\n\n\tWhy don't you just shell out a couple more dollars and get a floptical.   \nThey can read high density disks (1.4 MB) as well as flopticals (21 MB).  The  \nprice of flopticals right now range from $300's - $400's.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"From article <1993Apr21.190251.14371@sequent.com>, by troy@sequent.com (Troy Wecker):\n  .\n  .\n  .\n\n  .\n  .\n  .\n\nIt sounds like your analysis is based on hypothesis and not\nactually using the Valentine-1.  I'd like to give some feedback based on\nreal life experince.  I keep the Valentine-1 in advanced logic mode\nand it rarely lights up as a Christmas tree.  The only time it does\nis when I am in the middle of a major shopping area and then it makes\nsense that is does since there are >= 8 sources coming from many different\ndirections.  I have found the Valentine-1 to be consistent in its\nreporting of bogeys regardless of any moving cars in the area.\n\nI have found the directional indication to be very useful.  In one case\nthere was two radar traps set up within one mile of each other.  As I\npassed the first radar trap, the direction indication changed.  Then\nthe detector was set off again pointing in the forward direction.  With\nother radar detectors I would have assumed that this was due to a reflection.\nBut with the Valentine-1 I knew there was a high probability that there\nwas another trap.  And there was!\n\nOn other occasions, the directional helped discern a false alarm from\na true alarm.  For example, as I pass a source, the direction indicator\nchanges.  The directional also allows me to focus my attention as to where\nthe signal might be coming from instead of having to look all over the \nplace.  When a car is approaching me from the rear with a detector\nthat leaks, I can tell that the signal is coming from the rear and as the\ncar passes me I can verify the source.  With other detectors, I would\nhave been unable to do this and would have had to assume that there was a radar\ntrap when there was none.\n\nI've had the Valentine-1 for several months now and find its added features\nto be useful and not gimmicks.\n\n                                       -Barry","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":": \n: Hey,\n: \n: I'm about to purchase a DAT drive.  Does anyone know which mail order vendors\n: offer DAT drives with HP's mechanism?  What other mechanism is available out\n: there?  Good, bad points?\n\n\tWe bought one from Relax technologies.  BIG mistake.  The drive\nhad some jumpers set incorrectly so it didn't work at first, and the\nsoftware they shipped with it was incompatable with the drive (it was the\nnew compression model), and worst of all, when I opened the drive up to\nfiddle with the jumpers, I found the inside of the case COVERED WITH METAL\nFILINGS!!! Sorry to shout.  Apparently when they drilled the mounting holes\nin the case they forgot to clean it before putting the drive in.  This was\na HP drive, by the way, and is now working fine (knock on wood), no thanks\nto Relax technologies.\n\nHey, your mileage may vary, but let me suggest that you NOT buy from Relax\nTechnologies, even though their prices are usually about the lowest.\n\n--Dave\n==============================================================================\nDave Schwarze \n(schwarze@delphi.nosc.mil or NeXT mail schwarze@isenext2.saic.com)","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I have a pair of AKG 340s in nearly new condition for sale.  They\nhave been used in my studio for mixdown monitoring.  I have the original box.\nThe 340s use both an electret element and a dynamic element in each ear cup\nwith built-in crossovers.  They have a very smooth frequency response and\nthe electrostatic element gives clearer highs.  I am asking $200 for the\npair.\n\nBrett Maraldo \n- Plexus Prodcutions\n\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Has anyone ported RIPEM to the Amiga yet or is anyone working on it?\n\nEmailed responses are fine.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Dear Netters:\n    Could you mail the source code of the book:\n    \"Advanced X window application programming\"\nby Johnson and Reichard \n    TO ME?\n\n    If you need any source code, just ask me.\n\n    Thank you very much!\n\n\n                                    Sincerely,\n\n                                    Zeng, Qiyong.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Well, the question of why fire equipment took so long to reach the \ncompound has been answered. ABC aired a report including the 911 tapes \nfrom Monday. The FBI called 911 within 4 minutes of the fire's breakout. \nUnfortunately, dispatch of vehicles outside the Waco city limits \nrequired approval of a deputy chief, who was not available (literally \nout to lunch?); the 911 operator desperately called around to local \ncommunity volunteer fire departments to get something out there. By \nthe time trucks arrived 27 minutes later, the whole complex was aflame \nand it was clearly too little, too late; there were just two pumpers \nand no water supply. The FBI made another call requesting a tank truck, \nbut the Waco department apparently depended on hydrants and did not \nhave one. Though clearly unwilling to risk firemen's lives in the \nline of fire, it seems they might have done so had there been sufficient \nequipment and water to make a difference.\n\nThey even aired a tape of a woman who called Waco 911 from Georgia \nasking if anything was being done. Civic-minded, but probably \nirresponsible; if everyone watching television did that, no local \ncalls could get through.\n\nABC also aired the comments of an independent fire investigator who \nviewed tapes from more than one side of the compound (not just the \nstandard \"pool shot\"), and agreed that the fire a) must have been \nstarted in at least 3 places, and b) must have had an accelerant \nto spread so fast.\n\nNeither of these is conclusive proof that the Koresh crowd offed \nthemselves more than the FBI offed them, but it's a heck of a lot \nstronger proof than some of the \"theories\" floating around the net.\n\nScore 2 FBI, 0 Branch Davidians. Or is that -89 Branch Davidians?\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n1) Well, Mr Koresh allowed other children and adults to leave the compound\nduring the course of the siege; why didnt these children leave then?\nI dont know myself, and certainly havent heard any answers on this here.\n\n2) Yes, one simple non-action, ie NOT attacking the compound with\nmodified tanks, would have prevented this tragedy. I bet you blamed\nthe MOVE people for the deaths that occurred in adjacent row\nhouses in Philadelphia, not the government which dropped the\nfirebomb, right?\n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"BR> From: wpr@atlanta.dg.com (Bill Rawlins)\nBR> Newsgroups: alt.atheism\nBR> Organization: DGSID, Atlanta, GA\n\nBR>         The problem is that most scientists exclude the\nBR> possibility of the         supernatural in the question of\nBR> origins.  Is this is a fair premise?         I utterly\nBR> reject the hypothesis that science is the highest form of   \nBR>      truth.\n\nIt is better than the crap that the creationists put out.  So far all they\nhave been able to manage is distortions and half-truths. (When they are not\ntaking quotes out of context...)\n\nBR>         Some of these so-called human-like creatures were\nBR> apes.  Some were         humans.  Some were fancifully\nBR> reconstructed from fragments. \n\nThe genetic code has shown more about how man is realted to primates that the\nfossil record.  (A little detail the creationists try and ignore.)\n\nBR>            Good deeds do not justify a person in God's\nBR> sight.            An atonement (Jesus) is needed to atone\nBR> for sin.\n\nWho says?  Your Bible(tm)?\tI would be surprised if *ANY* Christian followed\nall of the rules in the Bible.  (Most of them just pick and choose, according\nto the local biases.)\n\nBR>      My point: God is the creator.  Look's like we agree.\n\nWhere is your proof?  How do you know it was *YOUR* God?\n\nBR>      I'll send you some info via e-mail.\nBR>      Regards, Bill.\n\nWhy not post them?\tI would be interested in seeing them myself.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Someone asked about the rosters for the college hockey senior all-star\nshrine game held in Orono, Maine earlier this month: \n\nWEST\nDerek Plante\t\tMINN-DULUTH\t(west MVP of the game)\nGreg Johnson\t\tN DAKOTA\t\t\nBryan Smolinski\t\tMICH ST\nFred Knipscheer\t\tST CLOUD STATE\nChris Campbell\t\tWISCONSIN-SUPERIOR\nGlenn Lang\t\tUW-SUPERIOR\nChris Bergeron\t\tMIAMI\nJoe Cook\t\tMIAMI\nJamie Erb\t\tBEMIDIJI\nBrett Harkins\t\tBOWLING GREEN\nDavid Roberts\t\tMICHIGAN\nTodd Trettier\t\tUW-STEVENS POINT\nJohn Young\t\tMICH TECH\nBrett Hauer\t\tMINN-DULUTH\nPat Neaton\t\tMICHIGAN\nBarry Richter\t\tWISCONSIN\nMike Smith\t\tLSSU\nChris Valicevic\t\tST MARY'S\nShaun Gravistin\t\tAK-ANCHORAGE\t(goalie)\nTom Newman\t\tMINNESOTA\t   \"\nBryan Schoen\t\tDENVER\t\t   \"\nRon Mason\t\tMICH ST\t\t(coach)\nSteve Nelson\t\tUW-SUPERIOR\t  \"\nJim Knapp\t\tMINN-DULUTH\t  \"\n\nEAST\nJack Duffy\t\tYALE\nChris Foy\t\tN'EASTERN\nScott Meehan\t\tMASS-LOWELL\nAaron Miller\t\tVERMONT\nKevin O'SUllivan\tBU\nChris Potter\t\tCONNECTICUT\nRay Alcindor\t\tMIDDLEBURY\nGreg Carvel\t\tST LAWRENCE\nBob Cowan\t\tPROVIDENCE\nSteve Dubinksy\t\tCLARKSON\nDan Gravelle\t\tMERRIMACK\nRyan Hughes\t\tCORNELL\nMark Kauffman\t\tYALE\nMatt Mallgrave\t\tHARVARD\nChris McGee\t\tBABSON\nScott McNair\t\tRIT\nJim Montgomery\t\tMAINE\nDavid Sacco\t\tBU\nChris Rogles\t\tCLARKSON\t(goalie)   (East's MVP of the game)\nGarth Snow\t\tMAINE\t\t   \"\nGrant Wood\t\tHAMILTON\t   \"\nBrian Durocher\t\tBROWN\t\t(coach)\nShawn Walsh\t\tMAINE   \t   \"\nBruce Marshalll\t\tCONNECTICUT\t   \"\n\n\nThese are the original rosters. There may have been a few changes\nfor the actual game (guys not being able to participate or whatever).","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nMy wifes uncle was a 30+ level mason.  He let me look at some of the books\n(which after his death his \"brothers\" came over and took from his greiving\nwidow before his body had even cooled).  Don't tell me you don't worship\nOsiris.  You must not be past your 20th level.  You should read Wilkinson's\nEgyptians and how he shows this Egyptian religion paralleling his own British\nMasonry.  There is a man here at this laboratory who is a 33 degree black\nmason.  I've talked with him, though much he likes to hide (\"mystery\"). \nSpecial handshakes and all.  When he first started trying to \"evangelize\" me,\nhe told me all kinds on special this, and special that.  Here is truely a\n\"mystery\" religion.  THere is the public side with motorcyle mania and\nchildrens hospitals and then there is the priviate side that only the highest\ndegree mason every learns of.\nI haven't read it, but the literature that is offered by the silver haired\napologist (can't remember his name) on TV, didn't exactly come to this same\nconclusion.  \n\n\"Khons, the son of the great goddess-mother, seems to have been gernaerally\nrepresented as a full-grown god. The Babylonian divinity was also represented\nvery frequently in Egupt in the very same wayas in the land of his nativity\n-i.e. as a child in his mother's arems.  THis was the way in which Osiris, 'the\nson, the husband of his mother,' was often exhibited, and what we learn of this\ngod, equally as in the case of Khonso, shows that in his original he was none\nother than Nimrod.  It is admitted that the secret system of Free Masonry was\noriginally founded on the Mysteries of the Egyptian Isis, the goddess-mother,\nor wife of Osiris.  But what could have led to the union of a Masonic body with\nthese Mysteries, had they not had particular reference to architecture, and had\nthe god who was worshipped in them not been celebrated for his success in\nperfecting the arts of fortification and building?  Now, if such were the case,\nconsidering the relation in which, as we have already seen, Egypt stood to\nBabylon, who would naturally be liiked up to there as the great patron of the\nMasonic art?  The strong presumption is, that Nimrod must have been the man. \nHe was the first that gained faim in this way.  As the child of the Babylonian\ngoddess-mother, he was worshipped in the character of Ala mahozim, 'The God of\nFortification.'  Osiris, the child of the Egyptian Modonna, was equally\ncelebrated as 'the strong chief of the buildings.'  THis strong chief of the\nbuildings was origninally worshipped in Egypt with every physicall\ncharacteristic of Nimrod.  I have already noticed the fact that Nimrod, as the\nson of Cush, was a negro.  Now, there was a tradition in Egypt, recorded by\nPlutarch, that 'Osiris was black'.......\"  Hislop\n\nIt was like a cold slap to my face, when my wifes uncle brought out his\ncerimonial dress and it was leopard skin.  I mean real leopard skin.   He told\nme that only the highest of degrees wore the leopard skin.  (The reason that he\nstarted telling me all this was that he had just been given a couple of months\nto live and my wife had led him to a saving faith in Christ and he immediately\nrepented from 'mysteries' of the lodge!)\n\nNimr-rod from Nimr, a \"leopard,\" and rada or rad \"To subdue.\"  It is a\nuniversal principle in all idolatries, that the high priest wears the insignia\nof the god he serves.  Any representation of Osiris usually show the wearing of\nsome leopard.  It is interesting that the Druids of Britian also show, or\nshould I say hide, this representation.  They, however, worshipped the \"spotted\ncow\".\n\nI'll stand by my statements.  Masonry is of the \"mystery\" religions that all\nfind their source in Babylon, the great harlot. Sorry Peter,  I do not mean to\nbe a \"cold slap to the face\" but there is to much evidence to the contrary that\nMasonry doesn't find its origins in Egypt.  Of the Masons I have personally\ntalked to, all refered to Egypt as their origin.  Why are you now separating\nyourself from this which not many years ago, was freely admitted?","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"...hm, I've found the DTK customer support BBS - anyone\nknow if Magitronic run one too?\n\n(Hands up all those that have possibly useful cards made by\neither manufacturer and no docs or drivers! <g>)\n\n              Please Email me directly if you happen to have a number.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\nwhy does this remind me of bosnia and ethnic cleansing ??????\n\n\n\ntippu\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nThe remainder of my article deleted stated why. One would be an egotist to\nbelieve that someone CARED about what Bill R. thought he needed\nto say about God. Whether they did or not is irrelevant.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"We are having problems with a bunch of SE\/30's in one of our Labs. The\nfault is that the machines either bomb or freeze when attempting to write to\ntheir internal floppies. The internal floppies have been tested on their own\nand are fine, which means that it is a main board fault. The machines all come\nfrom the same batch.\n\n        The date code on the back of the machines is December 1990.\n\n        1. Do you own a machine from this batch.\n\n\t2. Has any user had experience with this fault.\n\n        3. Was it a warranty repair.\n\n\nAny feedback would be appreciated and I will post the results to the net.\n\n                        Bill","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n   When an alleged private revelation attracts sufficient attention,\n   the Church may investigate it.  If the investigation indicates a\n   likelihood that the alleged private revelation is in fact from God,\n   it will be approved.  That means that it can be preached in the\n   Church.  However, it is still true that no one is required to\n   believe that it came from God.  A Catholic is free to deny the\n   authenticity of even the most well attested and strongly approved\n   private revelations, such as those at Fatima and Lourdes.  (I\n   suspect that few if any Catholics do reject Fatima and Lourdes, but\n   if any do their rejection of them does not mean they are not\n   orthodox Catholics in good standing.)\n\nIt may be a bit much to say that a Catholic is free to deny what\nhappened at Fatima.  That's a bit strong, it is sort of like saying\nthat a Catholic is free to deny that Hong Kong exists.  What a\nCatholic *is* free to do is to deny the truth of Fatima, without being\ncalled a heretic.  You can be labeled other things for such an\noffense, but not a heretic.\n\nTheologians make a basic distinction as far as the degree of assent\none must give to events like Fatima and Lourdes.  Things revealed by\nGod through Jesus Christ or His Apostles must be given the assent due\nto a revelation of God: total and unswerving.  Fatima and Lourdes\ndemand our assent as much as any other well-attested event in human\nhistory.  Perhaps a bit more, given the approval of the Church.\n\n\"Approval\" of an apparition by the Church principally means that\nwhatever happened was in harmony with the Catholic Faith.\n\nI personally think of private revelations as our Lord's way of telling\nus what to do at particular periods in history.  He gave us all the\ndoctrines, etc., 2000 years ago, but we can always use some help in\nknowing how exactly to apply what He gave us.\n\nCatholic devotion to the Sacred Heart was a result of a series of\napparitions to St. Margaret Mary Alacoque, for example.  The problem\nat the time was extreme moral rigorism that was turning our Lord into\nsomeone without a heart.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\n    Well the monitor is consistently the largest power drain on your\nelectric bill when you are looking at your computer set-up, especially\nif you have a large (16\" or greater) color monitor. Generally what I do\nis leave my Mac on all the time, except for the occasional resart or\nsyetem crash, but I turn my monitor off each night before I leave my\noffice. I also turn off After Dark when I do this, since there is no\nreason to have the screen saver running when there is no picture being\ndisplyed on the monitor's tube.\n\n\n    Really? What makes you think this? The Q700 file server in my office\nhas been on for the last 2 months, straight, and it hasn't had any\nproblems. (Note: I also keep the monitor for the file server turned off\nwhen I'm not actually working on the server itself.)","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Nice little, really compact, cream colored, 1200 external modem. Good\nfor the mac or ibm.  I will throw in a cable for an extra $5 or so.\nIf you are interested email me an offer.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I'm looking for a way to get our company logo onto documents and \nfigure the easiest way is to put it into a font.  Are there any public\ndomain programs that can do this?  Is there any shareware that \nwill do this?\n\nAny help is appreciated.\n\nPaul","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n > Between Adam and Eve and Golgotha the whole process of the fall\n > of man occurred.  This involved a gradual dimming of\n > consciousness of the spiritual world.  This is discernable in\n > the world outlooks of different peoples through history.  The\n > Greek, for example, could say, \"better a beggar in the land of\n > the living than a king in the land of the dead.\"  (Iliad, I\n > think).\n\nI would not swear that nothing of the sort is found in the Iliad,\nbut the first passage I thought of was the Odyssey 11:480 or\nthereabouts (my copy has no line numbers). The ghost of Acchilles\nspeaks (Robert FitzGerald translation):\n\n > Better, I say, to break sod as a farm hand\n > for some poor country man, on iron rations,\n > than lord it over all the exhausted dead.\n\nThe next passage I thought of was from Ecclesiastes 9:4\n\n + A living dog is better than a dead lion.\n\n > On the other hand, there is one notion firmly embedded in\n > Christianity that originated most definitely in a pagan source.\n > The idea that the human being consists essentially of soul\n > only, and that the soul is created at birth, was consciously\n > adopted from Aristotle, whose ideas dominated Christian thought\n > for fifteen hundred years and still does today....\n\nSurely Aristotle had little influence on Christian thought before\nabout 1250 AD.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Archive-name: atheism\/resources\nAlt-atheism-archive-name: resources\nLast-modified: 5 April 1993\nVersion: 1.1\n\n                              Atheist Resources\n\n                      Addresses of Atheist Organizations\n\n                                     USA\n\nFREEDOM FROM RELIGION FOUNDATION\n\nDarwin fish bumper stickers and assorted other atheist paraphernalia are\navailable from the Freedom From Religion Foundation in the US.\n\nWrite to:  FFRF, P.O. Box 750, Madison, WI 53701.\nTelephone: (608) 256-8900\n\nEVOLUTION DESIGNS\n\nEvolution Designs sell the \"Darwin fish\".  It's a fish symbol, like the ones\nChristians stick on their cars, but with feet and the word \"Darwin\" written\ninside.  The deluxe moulded 3D plastic fish is $4.95 postpaid in the US.\n\nWrite to:  Evolution Designs, 7119 Laurel Canyon #4, North Hollywood,\n           CA 91605.\n\nPeople in the San Francisco Bay area can get Darwin Fish from Lynn Gold --\ntry mailing <figmo@netcom.com>.  For net people who go to Lynn directly, the\nprice is $4.95 per fish.\n\nSET FREE\n\nAtheist stickers, T-shirts and books.\n\nWrite to:  Set Free, P.O. Box 3065-192, Garden Grove, CA 92642.\n\nAMERICAN ATHEIST PRESS\n\nAAP publish various atheist books -- critiques of the Bible, lists of\nBiblical contradictions, and so on.  One such book is:\n\n\"The Bible Handbook\" by W.P. Ball and G.W. Foote.  American Atheist Press.\n372 pp.  ISBN 0-910309-26-4, 2nd edition, 1986.  Bible contradictions,\nabsurdities, atrocities, immoralities... contains Ball, Foote: \"The Bible\nContradicts Itself\", AAP.  Based on the King James version of the Bible.\n\nWrite to:  American Atheist Press, P.O. Box 140195, Austin, TX 78714-0195.\n      or:  7215 Cameron Road, Austin, TX 78752-2973.\nTelephone: (512) 458-1244\nFax:       (512) 467-9525\n\nPROMETHEUS BOOKS\n\nSell books including Haught's \"Holy Horrors\" (see below).\n\nWrite to:  700 East Amherst Street, Buffalo, New York 14215.\nTelephone: (716) 837-2475.\n\nAn alternate address (which may be newer or older) is:\nPrometheus Books, 59 Glenn Drive, Buffalo, NY 14228-2197.\n\nAFRICAN-AMERICANS FOR HUMANISM\n\nAn organization promoting black secular humanism and uncovering the history of\nblack freethought.  They publish a quarterly newsletter, AAH EXAMINER.\n\nWrite to:  Norm R. Allen, Jr., African Americans for Humanism, P.O. Box 664,\n           Buffalo, NY 14226.\n\n                                United Kingdom\n\nRationalist Press Association          National Secular Society\n88 Islington High Street               702 Holloway Road\nLondon N1 8EW                          London N19 3NL\n071 226 7251                           071 272 1266\n\nBritish Humanist Association           South Place Ethical Society\n14 Lamb's Conduit Passage              Conway Hall\nLondon WC1R 4RH                        Red Lion Square\n071 430 0908                           London WC1R 4RL\nfax 071 430 1271                       071 831 7723\n\nThe National Secular Society publish \"The Freethinker\", a monthly magazine\nfounded in 1881.\n\n                                   Germany\n\nIBKA e.V.\nInternationaler Bund der Konfessionslosen und Atheisten\nPostfach 880, D-1000 Berlin 41. Germany.\n\nIBKA publish a journal:\nMIZ. (Materialien und Informationen zur Zeit. Politisches\nJournal der Konfessionslosesn und Atheisten. Hrsg. IBKA e.V.)\nMIZ-Vertrieb, Postfach 880, D-1000 Berlin 41. Germany.\n\nFor atheist books, write to:\n\nIBDK, Internationaler B\"ucherdienst der Konfessionslosen\nPostfach 3005, D-3000 Hannover 1. Germany.\nTelephone: 0511\/211216\n\n\n                               Books -- Fiction\n\nTHOMAS M. DISCH\n\n\"The Santa Claus Compromise\"\nShort story.  The ultimate proof that Santa exists.  All characters and \nevents are fictitious.  Any similarity to living or dead gods -- uh, well...\n\nWALTER M. MILLER, JR\n\n\"A Canticle for Leibowitz\"\nOne gem in this post atomic doomsday novel is the monks who spent their lives\ncopying blueprints from \"Saint Leibowitz\", filling the sheets of paper with\nink and leaving white lines and letters.\n\nEDGAR PANGBORN\n\n\"Davy\"\nPost atomic doomsday novel set in clerical states.  The church, for example,\nforbids that anyone \"produce, describe or use any substance containing...\natoms\". \n\nPHILIP K. DICK\n\nPhilip K. Dick Dick wrote many philosophical and thought-provoking short \nstories and novels.  His stories are bizarre at times, but very approachable.\nHe wrote mainly SF, but he wrote about people, truth and religion rather than\ntechnology.  Although he often believed that he had met some sort of God, he\nremained sceptical.  Amongst his novels, the following are of some relevance:\n\n\"Galactic Pot-Healer\"\nA fallible alien deity summons a group of Earth craftsmen and women to a\nremote planet to raise a giant cathedral from beneath the oceans.  When the\ndeity begins to demand faith from the earthers, pot-healer Joe Fernwright is\nunable to comply.  A polished, ironic and amusing novel.\n\n\"A Maze of Death\"\nNoteworthy for its description of a technology-based religion.\n\n\"VALIS\"\nThe schizophrenic hero searches for the hidden mysteries of Gnostic\nChristianity after reality is fired into his brain by a pink laser beam of\nunknown but possibly divine origin.  He is accompanied by his dogmatic and\ndismissively atheist friend and assorted other odd characters.\n\n\"The Divine Invasion\"\nGod invades Earth by making a young woman pregnant as she returns from\nanother star system.  Unfortunately she is terminally ill, and must be\nassisted by a dead man whose brain is wired to 24-hour easy listening music.\n\nMARGARET ATWOOD\n\n\"The Handmaid's Tale\"\nA story based on the premise that the US Congress is mysteriously\nassassinated, and fundamentalists quickly take charge of the nation to set it\n\"right\" again.  The book is the diary of a woman's life as she tries to live\nunder the new Christian theocracy.  Women's right to own property is revoked,\nand their bank accounts are closed; sinful luxuries are outlawed, and the\nradio is only used for readings from the Bible.  Crimes are punished\nretroactively: doctors who performed legal abortions in the \"old world\" are\nhunted down and hanged.  Atwood's writing style is difficult to get used to\nat first, but the tale grows more and more chilling as it goes on.\n\nVARIOUS AUTHORS\n\n\"The Bible\"\nThis somewhat dull and rambling work has often been criticized.  However, it\nis probably worth reading, if only so that you'll know what all the fuss is\nabout.  It exists in many different versions, so make sure you get the one\ntrue version.\n\n                             Books -- Non-fiction\n\nPETER DE ROSA\n\n\"Vicars of Christ\", Bantam Press, 1988\nAlthough de Rosa seems to be Christian or even Catholic this is a very\nenlighting history of papal immoralities, adulteries, fallacies etc.\n(German translation: \"Gottes erste Diener. Die dunkle Seite des Papsttums\",\nDroemer-Knaur, 1989)\n\nMICHAEL MARTIN\n\n\"Atheism: A Philosophical Justification\", Temple University Press,\n Philadelphia, USA.\nA detailed and scholarly justification of atheism.  Contains an outstanding\nappendix defining terminology and usage in this (necessarily) tendentious\narea.  Argues both for \"negative atheism\" (i.e. the \"non-belief in the\nexistence of god(s)\") and also for \"positive atheism\" (\"the belief in the\nnon-existence of god(s)\").  Includes great refutations of the most\nchallenging arguments for god; particular attention is paid to refuting\ncontempory theists such as Platinga and Swinburne.\n541 pages. ISBN 0-87722-642-3 (hardcover; paperback also available)\n\n\"The Case Against Christianity\", Temple University Press\nA comprehensive critique of Christianity, in which he considers\nthe best contemporary defences of Christianity and (ultimately)\ndemonstrates that they are unsupportable and\/or incoherent.\n273 pages. ISBN 0-87722-767-5\n\nJAMES TURNER\n\n\"Without God, Without Creed\", The Johns Hopkins University Press, Baltimore,\n MD, USA\nSubtitled \"The Origins of Unbelief in America\".  Examines the way in which\nunbelief (whether agnostic or atheistic)  became a mainstream alternative\nworld-view.  Focusses on the period 1770-1900, and while considering France\nand Britain the emphasis is on American, and particularly New England\ndevelopments.  \"Neither a religious history of secularization or atheism,\nWithout God, Without Creed is, rather, the intellectual history of the fate\nof a single idea, the belief that God exists.\" \n316 pages. ISBN (hardcover) 0-8018-2494-X (paper) 0-8018-3407-4\n\nGEORGE SELDES (Editor)\n\n\"The great thoughts\", Ballantine Books, New York, USA\nA \"dictionary of quotations\" of a different kind, concentrating on statements\nand writings which, explicitly or implicitly, present the person's philosophy\nand world-view.  Includes obscure (and often suppressed) opinions from many\npeople.  For some popular observations, traces the way in which various\npeople expressed and twisted the idea over the centuries.  Quite a number of\nthe quotations are derived from Cardiff's \"What Great Men Think of Religion\"\nand Noyes' \"Views of Religion\".\n490 pages. ISBN (paper) 0-345-29887-X.\n\nRICHARD SWINBURNE\n\n\"The Existence of God (Revised Edition)\", Clarendon Paperbacks, Oxford\nThis book is the second volume in a trilogy that began with \"The Coherence of\nTheism\" (1977) and was concluded with \"Faith and Reason\" (1981).  In this\nwork, Swinburne attempts to construct a series of inductive arguments for the\nexistence of God.  His arguments, which are somewhat tendentious and rely\nupon the imputation of late 20th century western Christian values and\naesthetics to a God which is supposedly as simple as can be conceived, were\ndecisively rejected in Mackie's \"The Miracle of Theism\".  In the revised\nedition of \"The Existence of God\", Swinburne includes an Appendix in which he\nmakes a somewhat incoherent attempt to rebut Mackie.\n\nJ. L. MACKIE\n\n\"The Miracle of Theism\", Oxford\nThis (posthumous) volume contains a comprehensive review of the principal\narguments for and against the existence of God.  It ranges from the classical\nphilosophical positions of Descartes, Anselm, Berkeley, Hume et al, through\nthe moral arguments of Newman, Kant and Sidgwick, to the recent restatements\nof the classical theses by Plantinga and Swinburne.  It also addresses those\npositions which push the concept of God beyond the realm of the rational,\nsuch as those of Kierkegaard, Kung and Philips, as well as \"replacements for\nGod\" such as Lelie's axiarchism.  The book is a delight to read - less\nformalistic and better written than Martin's works, and refreshingly direct\nwhen compared with the hand-waving of Swinburne.\n\nJAMES A. HAUGHT\n\n\"Holy Horrors: An Illustrated History of Religious Murder and Madness\",\n Prometheus Books\nLooks at religious persecution from ancient times to the present day -- and\nnot only by Christians.\nLibrary of Congress Catalog Card Number 89-64079. 1990.\n\nNORM R. ALLEN, JR.\n\n\"African American Humanism: an Anthology\"\nSee the listing for African Americans for Humanism above.\n\nGORDON STEIN\n\n\"An Anthology of Atheism and Rationalism\", Prometheus Books\nAn anthology covering a wide range of subjects, including 'The Devil, Evil\nand Morality' and 'The History of Freethought'.  Comprehensive bibliography.\n\nEDMUND D. COHEN\n\n\"The Mind of The Bible-Believer\", Prometheus Books\nA study of why people become Christian fundamentalists, and what effect it\nhas on them.\n\nGEORGE H. SMITH\n\n\"Atheism: The Case Against God\", Prometheus Books\nDescribes the positions of atheism, theism and agnosticism.  Reviews many \nof the arguments used in favour of the existence of God.  Concludes with an\nassessment of the impact of God on people's lives.\n\n                                Net Resources\n\nThere's a small mail-based archive server at mantis.co.uk which carries\narchives of old alt.atheism.moderated articles and assorted other files.  For\nmore information, send mail to archive-server@mantis.co.uk saying\n\n   help\n   send atheism\/index\n\nand it will mail back a reply.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"[...]\n\n  So, in short, the 3\/8\" cables seems to be pretty useless, I would guess.\n\n  The larger cable seems to be a much better unit.\n\n  I've got the larger cable - about 5\/8\" inch in diameter (actually, I think\nits larger), about 4 feet long which coils into a 8 or 9 inch coil, with the\ntubular key lock like the U-locks.  It has worked fine for me for two years\nnow, and *seems* (to me, anyway) that it is very secure.  It doesn't have the\nweaknesses that the U-locks have other than the liquid nitrogen trick\nsupposedly, is much easier to store in my tankbag than a U-lock, and more\nversatile.  I got mine from one of the mail-order houses (Motorcycle Accessory\nWarehouse, I beleive), for $42.\n\n  In combination with an ignition disable, and a couple of other deterrents,\nall I *usually* worry about is vandalism.\n\nRandy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com\nZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            {uunet!ucsd}!megatek!randy\nDoD #0013","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nWhen kids stayed in the home until kindergarden or 1st grade, infection \nincidence was much lower because exposure was lower.  Some studies suggest \nthat early exposure to various infectious diseases is probably beneficial \nbecause exposure as an adult carries much more risk of morbitity and \nmortality(mumps, measles. etc.).\n\n\nDaycare will always carry a higher exposure risk than home care.\n\n\nExposure to infectious organisms does build immunity.  But many viruses \nmutate and reexposure to the new strain requires another immune response(\nnew antibody production).  In addition, antibody levels tend to decline \nwith time and re-innoculation is needed to keep the antibody levels high.\nChronic overstimulation of the immune response can lead to immunosupression \nbut this is rare and very unlikely to occur in children.\n\n\nYes, chronic use of antibiotics can have an adverse effect on the good \nbacteria that are supposed to be present in and on the body.  Health effects \nof this depletion of the good bacteria is a very hotly debated topic in the \nmedical community with most physicians seeming to discount any health effects \nof chronic antibiotic use( a view that I do not support).\n \n\nChronic infection in an adult or a child needs to be worked up( in my \nopinion).  But most physicians feel that chronic infection in a child is \nnormal because of both exposure and lack of prior immunity to many \ninfectious diseases.  I do not share this view and there are some \nphysicians who also suspect that diet plays a big role in infection \nfrequency and severity.  Exposure to an infectious agent does not have to \nresult in a severe infection.  A strong immune response can minimize the \nlength of time needed to deal with the infection as well as the symptoms \nassociated with the infection.\n\n\nThere are five major nutrients that are responsible for a good strong \nimmune response to infectious agents.  They are: protein, vitamin C, \nvitamin A, iron and zinc.  The American diet is not low in protein so this \nis rarely a problem.  But vitamin A, vitamin C, iron and zinc are often low \nand this lack of an adequate pool(nutrient reserve) can impair the immune \nresponse.  Iron is know to be low in most kids(as is vitamin A).  There are \ndistinct biochemical tests that can be run to check the status of each of \nthese nutrients in a patient who is having a problem with chronic severe \ninfection.  Serum ferritin for iron status, dark adaptation for vitamin A \nstatus, red blood cell zinc for zinc status and leckocyte ascorbate for \nvitamin C status.  I have attempted to work up posts on these five \nnutrients and their role in infection for this news group as well as the \nothers that I participate in.  I can e-mail you what I've worked up so far.\nBut my best advice to you is to try to find a physician who recognizes the \ncritical role that diet plays in the human immune response.  You may also \nbe able to get help from a nutritionist.  Anyone can call themselves a \nnutritionist so you have to be very carefull.  You want to find someone(\nlike myself) who has had some formal training and education in nutrition.\nMany Ph.D. programs in the U.S. now offer degrees in Nutrition and that's \nwhat you need to look for.  Some dieticians will also call themselves \nnutritionists but most dieticians have not had the biochemical training \nneeded to run specialized nutritional assessment tests.  They are very good \nfor getting general dietary advice from however.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nAttendance in 1992 was down. By .3%. From an all-time record in 1991.\nIn people terms, attendance was down by 310,000 from 1991 to 1992. Two\nfranchises, the Dodgers and Mets, were down by 1,100,000 from 1991 to 1992.\nHad either of them not been entirely awful, MLB would have set another\nattendance record in 1992.\n\n Mike Jones | AIX High-End Development | mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nEven if Rodney King had come out of that car waving a gun and they \nmanaged to disarm him, the police still had no right right to beat\nhim senseless the way they did once he was on the ground.  If they \ncan't handle their jobs, they should be relieved of them.\n\nAdditionally, Anna Quindlan of the New York Times said it best (paraphrase):\nMany people bring up what happened before what is shown on the tape.  Here's\nwhat came before:  the 80's, Ronald Reagan, George Bush, racism,...","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nV16 anyone? Anyone heard of a Cizata V16T ??? Its mainly sold in the middle \neast where they dont have as strict a legislation as in the USA and EC....\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nWell, they just said that Franco will probably go on the DL tomorrow.\n(They mentioned a career minor leaguer as the \"warm body\" who would go \nalong...I forget.)\n\nAlso, when answering questions about the rotation, Coleman (SD \nbroadcaster) said that Hurst is gone in about a month-month and a half, \nwhich is when he should finish re-hab.\n\nLater\n\nDennis","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nOf course not. There's more than a little difference between formulating\nforeign policy and overseeing the ATF's handling of a scenario involving a\ngroup of religious fanatics. Why do people compare apples and oranges?","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"pdb059@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov (Paul Bartholomew) writes to Clayton Cramer:\n\n\nThe saddest thing is that most people, like Cramer's wife, learn dislike\nfor homosexuality early in childhood.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Is there a comp.graphics FAQ and if so, where?\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"please subscrive me.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"SOMEONE PLEASE BUY THESE BOOKS!!!!!  I AM NOT ASKING MUCH!!!!!!\n\nJUST MAKE ME AN OFFER AND I WILL PROBABLY TAKE IT!!!!!\n\n\n* Writing good software in Fortran, Graham Smith. \n\n* The Holt Handbook by Kirszner & Mandell (copyright 1986) 720+ page writing guide. \n\n* General Chemistry Principles & Modern Applications, R. Petrucci, fourth\n  edition.  Big Book! Very good condition!\n\n* Solutions manual for Chemistry book.  Paperback.\n\n* Study guide for Chemistry book.  Paperback.\n\n\nSend me your offers via email at 02106@chopin.udel.edu\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":":               WOULD WIRETAP CHIP BE COST-EFFECTIVE?\n\n:   SUMMARY: Compared to an average monthly phone bill of sixty dollars,\n:   wiretaps are only worth two cents a month to police.  So the\n:   proposed wiretap chip must raise phone costs by less than one part \n:   in three thousand to be cost-effective. \n\nRobin's calculation is interesting and important, even if it's off by\nan order of magnitude (for example).\n\nEven if hardware costs for the Clipper Chip phones were ZERO, the\nprotocol overhead in transmitting the escrow field would be much\nhigher than the 1 part in 3 thousand...it depends on the exact details\nof the phone call length, protocol, etc. (shorter calls get a\nproportionately greater hit).\n\nHowever, I suspect most Americans will not find this line of reasoning\nas persuasive as the analogies about escrowing keys to one's house\nare.\n\n-Tim May\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"   On these counts, the apocrapha falls short of the glory of God.\n   To quote Unger's Bible Dictionary on the Apocrapha:\n   1. They abound in historical and geographical inaccuracies and\n   anachronisms.\n   2. They teach doctrines which are false and foster practices\n   which are at variance with sacred Scripture.\n   3. They resort to literary types and display an artificiality of\n   subject matter and styling out of keeping with sacred Scripture.\n   4. They lack the distinctive elements which give genuine\n   Scripture their divine character, such as prophetic power and\n   poetic and religious feeling.\n\nFirst, to point out the obvious: While #4 would clearly be a highly\nsubjective issue, one would be hard pressed to point to another book\nof the OT (or for that matter the NT) that doesn't, on some issues, in\nsome way, fail one or more of the first three of these tests.\n\nSecond, one factor the Deuterocanonicals share is the lateness of\ntheir composition.  I don't recall the exact dating of all of the\nbooks, but most --if not all-- were written after the latest of the\ncanonical books (i.e. Daniel).\n\nFurthermore, while the Deuterocanonical may or may not have been\noriginally written in Greek, they are clearly deeply _Hellenistic_ in\nnature.  Both of these features probably figured heavily in the\nrejection of these books from the various canons.\n\nThese may not be strict and uniformly applicable criteria by which to\njudge the canonicity of these books, but, as these discussions have\nshown, I think the one thing we can see is that there _are_ no purely\nobjective standards for determining canonicity.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":": I have a question about SVGA cards.  I have a Tseng 4000 SVGA with 1MB\n: memory and 3x 6-bit DACs as far as I know.  To display a 640x480x32768, \n: Now:  Can I display 640x480, 15bit\/pixel bit-maps on this card?\n\nYou can. At the least, your _hardware_ is capable of supporting this mode.\nI do know nothing about your video BIOS, though...\n\n: If so, how?\n\nSilly (but fool-proof ;) way: Install Windows with 640x480x32K colors\nwideo driver and display your pictures under windows...\n\nCheese,","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"NHL PLAYOFF RESULTS FOR 4\/21\/93.\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n                  CONFERENCE SEMI-FINALS        BEST OF SEVEN\n      PATRICK              ADAMS              NORRIS              SMYTHE\n \n NJ                  BUF   (leads 2-0)   STL   (leads 2-0)   WIN               \n PIT   (leads 2-0)   BOS                 CHI                 VAN   (leads 2-0)\n\n NYI   (tied  1-1)   MON                 TOR                 LA    (tied  1-1) \n WAS                 QUE   (leads 2-0)   DET   (leads 2-0)   CAL              \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nToronto Maple Leafs                       0   1   1   -   2\nDetroit Red Wings    (leads series 2-0)   1   3   2   -   6\n\n1st period: DET, Lidstrom 1 - (Yzerman, Coffey) (pp) 4:06\n\n2nd period: DET, Fedorov 1 - (sh) 0:43\n\t    DET, Yzerman 2 - (Coffey, Chiasson) (pp) 8:06\n\t    DET, Yzerman 3 - (Coffey, Sheppard) 17:40\n\t    TOR, Mironov 1 - (Gill, Gilmour) 19:10\n\n3rd period: TOR, Gilmour 2 - (Anderson) 4:32\n\t    DET, Ysebaert 1 - (Kozlov) 5:51\n\t    DET, Drake 1 - (Kozlov, Kennedy) 18:33\n\nPowerplay Opportunities-Maple Leafs 1 of 8\n\t\t\tRed Wings   2 of 7\n\nShots on Goal-\tMaple Leafs  10   7  13  -  30\n\t\tRed Wings    16  11   3  -  30\n\nToronto Maple Leafs--Potvin (0-2) (30 shots - 24 saves)\nDetroit Red Wings--Cheveldae (2-0) (30 shots - 28 saves)\n\nATT-19,875\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nSt. Louis Blues     (leads series 2-0)   2   0   0   -   2\nChicago BlackHawks                       0   0   0   -   0\n\n1st period: STL, Hull 2 - (Brown, Janney) (pp) 7:38\n\t    STL, Lowry 1 - (sh) 13:53\n\n2nd period: NONE\n\n3rd period: NONE\n\nPowerplay Opportunities-Blues      1 of 5\n\t\t\tBlackHawks 0 of 6\n\nShots on Goal-\tBlues        9   3   5  -  17\n\t\tBlackHawks  16  19  12  -  47\n\nSt. Louis Blues--Joseph (2-0) (47 shots - 45 saves)\nChicago BlackHawks--Belfour (0-2) (17 shots - 15 saves)\n\nATT-17,339\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nLos Angeles Kings  (series tied 1-1)   1   0   3   -   4\nCalgary Flames                         0   5   4   -   9\n\n1st period: LAK, Carson 3 - 1:11\n\n2nd period: CAL, Otto 1 - (Roberts, MacInnis) 5:02\n\t    CAL, Yawney 2 - (Dahlquist, Ranheim) 8:02\n\t    CAL, Reichel 1 - (Fleury) (pp) 10:52\n\t    CAL, Nieuwendyk 1 - (Roberts, Musil) 13:47\n\t    CAL, Otto 2 - (Dahl) (sh) 19:37\n\n3rd period: LAK, Carson 4 - (Granato, Shuchuk) 5:34\n\t    CAL, Reichel 2 - (Fleury, MacInnis) (pp) 7:23\n\t    CAL, Paslawski 1 - (Roberts, Nieuwendyk) 8:14\n\t    CAL, Fleury 1 - (MacInnis, Nieuwendyk) (pp) 10:37\n\t    LAK, Rychel 1 - (Blake) 11:56\n\t    LAK, Kurri 1 - (Gretzky, Zhitnik) (pp) 15:22\n\t    CAL, Suter 2 - (Skrudland, Berube) 19:15\n\nPowerplay Opportunities-Kings  1 of 7\n\t\t\tFlames 3 of 6\n\nSHots on Goal-\tKings   14   8   9  -  31\n\t\tFlames   9  16  15  -  40\n\nLos Angeles Kings--Hrudey (1-1) (40 shots - 31 saves)\nCalgary Flames--Vernon (1-1) (31 shots - 27 saves)\n\nATT-19,477\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nWinnipeg Jets                           0   1   1   -   2\nVancouver Canucks  (leads series 2-0)   1   1   1   -   3\n\n1st period: VAN, Ronning 2 - (Courtnall, Linden) 11:37\n\n2nd period: VAN, Courtnall 1 -  6:05\n\t    WIN, Domi 1 - (King, Barnes) 6:48\n\n3rd period: WIN, Numminen 1 - (Housley, Selanne) (pp) 0:30\n\t    VAN, Bure 1 - (Adams, Craven) 4:01\n\nPowerplay Opportunities-Jets    1 of 4\n\t\t\tCanucks 0 of 3\n\nShots on Goal-\tJets      6  10   6  -  22\n\t\tCanucks  14   9   9  -  32\n\nWinnipeg Jets--Essensa (0-2) (32 shots - 29 saves)\nVancouver Canucks--McLean (2-0) (22 shots - 20 saves)\n\nATT-15,729\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc\nSubject: On-line copy of Book of Mormon\nSummary: \nDistribution: usa\nOrganization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415) 960-7300\nKeywords: BOM, Book of Mormon, Mormon\n\nCan anyone provide me a ftp site where I can obtain a online version\nof the Book of Mormon. Please email the internet address if possible.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nIt's a moot point: Step out of your door go _anywhere_ (except possibly\nyour mailbox). You will be \"subject to some ad agency's 'poor taste'\"\n \n\nWhile I'm sure Sagan considers it sacrilegious, that wouldn't be\nbecause of his doubtfull credibility as an astronomer. Modern, \nground-based, visible light astronomy (what these proposed\norbiting billboards would upset) is already a dying field: The\nopacity and distortions caused by the atmosphere itself have\ndriven most of the field to use radio, far infrared or space-based\ntelescopes. In any case, a bright point of light passing through\nthe field doesn't ruin observations. If that were the case, the\nthousands of existing satellites would have already done so (satelliets\nmight not seem so bright to the eyes, but as far as astronomy is concerned,\nthey are extremely bright.)","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"In response to alleged circular reasoning concerning the morality of      \nhomosexuality, clh poses the following challenge:\n\n\nI answer,\n\nThe circle is simple to break.   The Church teaches that homosexual\nbehavior is immoral.  This teaching is raw, impassionate, unassailable\ndogma.  That closes the argument for me.\n\n\n-- \nRandal Lee Nicholas Mandock \nCatechist\ngt7122b@prism.gatech.edu ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"cica.indiana.edu pc\/drivers  the current version is 2.0\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nWhen I say \"black,\" I mean US-born black people for the purposes of this\ndiscussion.  Hispanic players were in baseball before 1947, and one \nteam in the 50's signed lots of hispanics because they went over better\nwith the local audience than blacks did.  \n\n\nDon't know.  But remember: this is the country that had special racial\nlaws for one group and one group only: blacks.  Our national history \nincludes huge, long-term, global tensions regarding the black minority; \nthe hispanic minority, while often discriminated against, has never been\nthe object of national obsession.\n\n\nAbsolutely.  As I said before, I expect that this effect is disappearing.\nBut it certainly did exist, and all out talk of TWG's and all that is \nnot without some small reason.\n\n\nWell, there's the list.  Go for it!  I'll cull some more names as I go.\nI expect you're right, btw.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"...\n\nThat is if Mario makes it.\n\nPat Walker sounds like the type that would bring an AK-47 to a game\nand take pot shots at Mario. (\"stand STILL...dam sunavbich...HMFF\")\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"But wouldn't that go for any sin.  My father told me when he was growing\nup Catholics were not allowed to associate with anyone who was divorced.\nThere are a few verses prohibitting divorce.  Somehow, divorce became\nacceptable (even in Catholicism anullments).  Certainly it is no longer\na sin to associate with a divorced person.  The point is that each person\nhas their own temptations to deal with.  Paul repeatedly talks about the\n\"thorn\" in his side, some think it refers to lust, others pride, but\nwho knows.  Whatever the thorn was, apparently it was not \"compatible\"\nwith Christianity, yet does that make his epistles any less?  The Bible\nwarns us against judging, greed, anxiety, impure thoughts, bearing grudges,\netc., etc.  I suppose we should seek out all the so-called Christians\nwho have entertained impure thoughts and oust them.  All those who have\ngiven in to greed, get 'em outta here.  Jesus pointed out that he\nwas the physician for the sinners.  Any attempts to make homosexuals\nfeel unwelcome because of our discomfort with homosexuality is incompatible\nwith Christianity.  Is our hatred so deep that rather than see someone\ntry to become closer to Jesus, we need to keep them away.  Does Jesus need\nus to screen out those guilty of a particular sin.  Do we really mistrust \nJesus when he says he can forgive any sin?\n\nThink about it.  Among the people Jesus encountered were sinners and\nthe Pharisees.  The sinners he embraced and forgave.  The Pharisees,\nhypocritcal, unmerciful, self-righteous, pointed out others sins and\ndid not seek and thus did not gain forgiveness of their own sins.  What\nI take from this and other verses is that if we do not admit our sins,\nthose sins will not be forgiven.  And since those guilty of even one sin\nare guilty of the whole law, those not repenting the judging of others\nare guilty, as guilty as if they committed the same sin they judged others\nof.\n\nThe poor in spirit, meek, humble, merciful, pure of heart, peacemakers, \nthose who thirst for justice, those who suffer for His sake are blessed.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nWell... all the way through a decreasing-radius corner, anyway...\n\n\nOK (but I'm right!)  :^)\n\n\nIf that's the \"official line\" taught in those rider education classes\nyou were refering to, that also don't teach countersteering, I have to\nquestion the quality of the classes.  The \"official line\" in MSF\ncurricula is as I described.  Maximum braking is achieved by applying\nboth brakes equally, when the weight distribution is nominally even and\nboth tires have equal normal forces, and easing off on the rear to\nprevent locking it, and increasing braking on the front, as more\ntraction is available to the front due to increased normal force due to\nweight shift.\n\nThe \"official line\" you have been taught seems ineffective on the face\nof it.  Applying the rear brake after the front is not taking advantage\nof all the traction available to the rear at time 0, and is halving the\navailable braking power by using only the front at time 0.\n\n\nNot necessarily true.  \"Chirping\" the tire indicates impending lockup\n(on most surfaces), and serves as a good guide to newbies to indicate\nmaximum braking.  I agree that totally locking the front occasionally\nmakes one a better rider, but it is a manuver best saved for an\nexperienced rider, unless you have one of those outrigger bikes like\nCode used to use.\n\n\nTrue, but from the point of view of how to best *teach* riding skills\n(which is how this discussion started), \"keep both wheels just on the\npoint of sliding\" is nearly useless information.  You need to teach a\n*technique*, or at least a strategy, to achieve this.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I knew, despite the lack of a full game telecast last week, it was still\ntoo much hockey for Atlanta. Atlanta's ABC has declined to pick up any\nplayoff games till May9. And even when they show the games on MAy9 and May16,\nthey will continue to skip the first half hour of the telecast. I know this\nis still a better situation compared to rest of Georgia, Alabama, etc., but\nit is still pretty annoying. At least in PIttsburgh, we had a network preemptionchannel which showed all netwoork shows prempted by the local affiliate.\n\n\nI asked them what their problem was. I told them that a local 1.9 rating was\nnot that bad considering it was the first NHL game shown after a long time\nwithout much promotion. Besides, their syndicated programming in the afternoon\nis usually low rated. So what did they have to lose by showing NHL playoffs.\nShe told me that they had contractual obligations. I asked her if golf\nwas shown oin ABC, would contractual obligations come in the way. And how come\ncontractual obligations didn't come in the way of last week's telecast? She\nthen couldn't give me a coherent answer.\n\n\nAlso, I added that Atlanta had one of the highest neutral site game\nattendances and that the demographics were good. I think ABC and other networks\nshould begin to tie their high rated programs like Roseanne in with\n thier sports programming.\nI hope that everyone in Atlanta who reads this bboard calls WSB 2 and complain\nbitterlyt about this. Tell them you will stop watching their news telecasts\nsince they seem to be very unprofessional in handling this situation.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\n  I am considering buying the Hummingbird X-Windows software for a MS-Windows\n3.1 PC (386-40MHZ, NE2000 Ethernet board).  Would anyone tell me if they\nare using this package in a similar environment and if they are happy with\nit?  I will be connecting to Sun SparcStation 10 running Sun OS 4.1.3.\n\nThanks very much,","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nBrian Kendig also declares:\n\n\n\"Christ\" is Greek for \"Messiah\".  \"Messiah\" means \"Annointed One\".\n\"Annoint\" means \"to rub with oil, i.e. to anoint; by impl. to\nconsecrate\"     The major prophet Daniel uses the word \"Messiah\"\nin Daniel chapter 9.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"STK1203@VAX003.STOCKTON.EDU Pontificated: \n\nOne of the sci.space FAQ postings deal with this.  It's archived\nsomewhere.  Perhaps someone can post where it is (I don'\nremember).  \n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nWhat tube does the Viewsonic 17 use?  Does is support 1600x1280?  I've been\nlooking a a Philips 1762DT which uses a Sony Trinitron tube, has digital\ncontrols, supports up to 1280x1024NI, and has .25mm dot pitch - It can be\nfound for under $1000.\n\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Hello\n\tI recently accelerated my Mac Plus (MicroMac 25MHz accelerator) \nand now I can't get my Mac to boot off of the hard disk.  It boots fine \nfrom a floppy, and I can mount the hard disk using SCSI probe, but I \ncannot get it to boot from the hard drive.  I installed a new driver, so I \ndon't think that is the problem.  \n\tThis poses a rather large problem.  I only have 4 Meg of RAM, and \nI need to run Mathematica, which requires 5 Meg.  I was hoping to use \nsystem 7 virtual memory so that I could run Mathematica.  However, I can't \nrun system 7 from a floppy, so I can't get enough RAM.  \n\tAny suggestions? Thanks for your time--\n\t\t\t\t\t\tChrisw@yang.earlham.edu\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Here's a summary of Don Cherry's Coach's Corner from April 21, 1993.\nThe game being broadcast in my region was LA and Calgary, although\nI think it was filmed during the Toronto-Detroit game that night.\n\n(Warning... Anti-fighting people may want to skip this post.)\n\nTopics\n------\n\nDon's Tie, Grant Fuhr, Penalties, Wings vs Leafs, Fighting, Dale Hunter.\n\nEpisode Summary\n---------------\n\nThis episode began with the camera zoomed in on Don's tie. Don was\npointing out the characters on the tie... Bugs Bunny, Foghorn Leghorn,\nand Yosemite Sam (who Don called Lanny Macdonald.)\n\nRon Maclean began by mentioning that Don was almost evicted from a\nhotel where he was watching the previous night's games, because of\nall the yelling and cheering he was doing over the play of Hunter\nand Fuhr.\n\nDon began to praise Fuhr, calling him the \"greatest goalie\", and\nsaid that he's winning the series against Boston all by himself.\nHe then showed clips from earlier episodes (Nov. 14, Jan. 16) when\nFuhr was still with the Leafs, and Don advised \"Don't Trade Fuhr!\"\n\nDon went on to predict that if Buffalo gets by Boston, it would\nbe Fuhr who wins the series. Muckler took a lot of heat for the\ntrade, but Don feels Muckler's been vindicated.\n\nThe next topic involved how playoff games are being ruined by\ntoo many penalty calls. He showed a clip from a Winnipeg-Vancouver\ngame, where Domi hit a Vancouver player, and was given a 2 min. penalty.\nRon said that it was called a penalty because his stick was involved,\nbut Don stuck with the opinion that it was a good hit, with Domi\nhitting the Vancouver player with his shoulder. Don: \"Its sad what\nthey're doing for hockey... a 5 minute penalty for a nosebleed.\"\n\nNext, they went to the playoff series between Detroit and Toronto.\nPeople in Detroit were calling Wendel Clarke \"Wendy\" for not fighting.\nHowever, Don pointed out that Probert was not fighting either.\n\nThis lead Don into a tirad about fighting and stickwork, and how\nbanning fighting leads to more high sticking: \"It's like college\nhockey... The little wee guy with the visor is brave as anybody.\nThat's why you're seeing so much stickwork. Because they know you\nwon't drop your gloves and give them a shot. The rules are made\nby people who don't know what's going on in hockey\".\n\nThe final topic Don discussed was Dale Hunter. Don pointed out\nthat he was leading the league in goals, and showed a clip\nof Hunter from a previous game. When he was younger, Hunter was\ntaught to \"play to win\", which differs from today's idea of\njust letting kids have fun.\n\nAt then end of the episode, they showed a clip from a coach's\ncorner, with the tape on fast forward, so that Don sounded like\none of the chipmunks.\n\nRating\n------\nTypical anti-fighting posturing, not too much humour, but some\ngood quotes.\n\nI'd give it a 7.0 out of 10.\n\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n   \\  \\                   |Allan Sullivan (allan@cs.ualberta.ca)\n    \\  \\                  |Department of Computing Science,\n     \\  \\_______          |University of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.\n      \\    ###  \\     _   |---------------------------------------------------\n       \\___###___\\   (_)  |My opinions are mine and mine alone.\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\"It is amazing how much can be accomplished if no one cares who gets the\n credit...\"          - U. of A. Golden Bears Hockey Motto (C. Drake)","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\na) Dominican\nb) not all that light-hitting.  .304 lifetime, .315 or so in 1966-73\nwhen he did most of his playing.  \nc) Professional pinch-hitter after that.  Yes, that also gives you\nJerry Hairston.\n\n\nBeginning 10th year now.\n\n\nGood one.\n\n\nNot the same thing.  LOTS of people are bad OFs.\n\n\nNot all that light either.  .750 OPS.\n\n\nNot 10 year.\n\n\n10-year this year.\n\n\nNot 10-year.  \n\n\nNot 10-year.\n\n\nYup.\n\n\nOK.\n\n\n10-year this year.\n\n\n*Six*-year this year.\n\n\nBrock, Coleman, and Wilson were hot-dog basestealers (also Lonnie Smith);\nthat seems to be a special class.  CFs like Pettis and Wilson also get \nmore of a break, especially if they actually *do* field well.  And Brock\nwasn't all that bad a hitter either, not until the end there when he \nspoiled his ifetime .300 BA.\n\nAnd again, I suspect thatthe problem is lessening over time.  But if\nyou look at the history of the last three decades, there seems to \nbe a clear race-based pattern by which utility players and platoon\nplayers and lesser talents stayed in the ML far longer if they were\nwhite.\n\n\nLight hitting?  199 HR, .793 lifetime OPS mainly with *HOUSTON*?\nAlso Latin, btw.\n\n\n\nCome back in 1999 and we'll party^H^H^H^H^H talk.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"--> A humble response to a letter by Gordon Lang written 04-21-93  22:09.\n\n\n GL> :  I am interrested in the extrodinarily simple concept of the null\n GL> modem : cable. (Actually I have NO idea, so don't count that last\n GL> statement.)  What I'm : asking is what pins does it use (or what are\n GL> it's specifications?)  I just want : to solder one myself instead of\n GL> buying one.  I don't even know what port is : used.\n\nYou may want to save yourself the trouble and go to Radio Shack.  They have\na null modem adapter which is a 9 pin connector that swaps the necessary\npins to allow two machines to communicate.  These are a lot easier than\nsoldering the connections yourself, and usually a bit more reliable.\n\n... P.E.T.A. People for the Eating of Tasty Animals\n--- Blue Wave\/QWK v2.10\n                                                                                                       ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\tDoes anyone know of a fractal terrain generator for Mac, something\n\tI could hopefully import into a 3D program like Swivel or Stratavision?\n\tI know Infini-D has built in capabilities, but I don't have access to\n\tInfini-D. I downloaded two programs from Umich, in graphics\/fractals,\n\tbut both were from 1990-91 and crashed under System 7. I think they\n\twere Black and white anyway. Please, email me if you know of anything,\n\tas I don't check the newsgroups very often.\n\t\tThanks in advance.\n\t\t\tDan Bradley deb47099@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Editorial - A10, Saturday, April 24, 1993\n\n    CRIMESTRIKE HITS TOWN\n\n    With the chilling reality of crime at the hands of urban terrorists\n    that were noted above (a high school student and gang article in the\n    same column), we welcome into the ranks of those dedicated to re-\n    moving criminals from the streets the National Rifle Association's\n    new CrimeStrike project, engineered by Arizona's former chief assist-\n    ant attorney general Steven J. Twist.\n\n    CrimeStrike is working to reverse the disturbing trend of daily\n    crime.  It is promoting solutions that can be applied nationally,\n    including tough and honest sentencing of the sort that Arizona is\n    applying with its Truth in Sentencing law; funding construction and\n    staffing of appropriate prison space; ensuring that the system is\n    primed to punish serious youthful offenders; strict attention to the\n    rights of victims; and citizen and community involvement.\n\n    Phoenix will be the home for this national organization.\n\n    The Gazette has vigorously opposed many NRA policies on issues of gun\n    control, and will be resolute in promoting prudent laws that seek\n    reasonable regulation of firearms.\n\n    But CrimeStrike is an appropriate creation, a response to a clear\n    need for more robust vigilance in holding legislators and judges ac-\n    countable when it comes to swiftly and surely punishing criminals.\n\n    When an organization has an issue, it has an issue, and Crime-\n    Strike has it - especially when it is willing to direct its dollars\n    to getting criminals off the street.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":" \n\nMy fiancee' and I do quite a bit of sporty riding 2-up.  I'll tell you \nwhat we've found and the systems we've worked out.\n\n- On starts, accelerate MUCH slower than usual.  It's tough for the rider\nto judge how scary fast acceleration is, because we're holding onto something\nand leaning forward.  Remember this.\n\n- On turns, have her lean forward and at the same angle as you (normally \nthis means she isn't leaning at all.)  It's very disconcerting to be leaned\nover and have your passenger leaning so that they're sitting straight up.\nMuch balance is lost and this can be dangerous.\n\n- On slowing and stopping, do so MUCH slower than usual.  Again, it's tough \nfor the rider to judge how scary fast deceleration is, because we're holding \nonto something and leaning forward.  However, you'll figure it out fast\nbecause braking too fast will shove the passenger forward into you, which \nshoves you into the tank at an inopportune location.\n\n- Generally, have the passenger keep her knees against you and the bike, not \nout wide.  This helps balance and gives her somegrip.\n\n- When you passenger is in fear, she will squeeze her knees against you.\nNormally this means \"slow down, and do it now!\".  \n\n\n\nWe only have a couple signals.  \"Slow down\" is her either tapping me on \nthe back, or slapping my helmet with all her might.  Depends on the urgency\nof the matter :-)\n\n\"Turn here\" is done by her pointing in the direction of an exit.  This is\nalso the sign for \"cool!  Look at that.\"  \"I hafta pee\" is the same sign\nas \"turn here\".  \"I'm hungry\" is the same sign.  \"Go faster\" is usually\ndone by her jumping up and down on her pegs in glee.  I usually see \"slow\ndown\" more often than \"go faster\".\n \n\nThe best thing to do before the ride is to talk to a riding buddy, and \npillion on his or her bike.  It's incredibly frustrating, because you're \nin almost no control.  Now, multiply that feeling times ten, because\nyou as a rider know what your bike will do, and your passenger will likely\nfeel you're about to scrape hard parts all the time, or lock up the brakes\nat any moment, or go careening off the edge of a volcanic mountain, etc.  \nPillioning yourself is good training to take somebody on your pillion pad.\n\nAlso, remember that it's much more draining and tiring to ride 2-up\nthan by yourself, because you're concentrating on much more, and\n\"in the Zen of the moment\" less.  Remember this.\n\n----------------------------------------------------\n   Pat Loughery [patlo@microsoft.com] Seattle, WA\n\t DoD #393, AMA, VME, DIOC, 1KSI=2.53\n '91 VFR750F, '91 Nighthawk 750, '82 Seca 650 Turbo\n\t\t^^^ For Sale","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Archive-name: jpeg-faq\nLast-modified: 16 May 1993\n\nThis FAQ article discusses JPEG image compression.  Suggestions for\nadditions and clarifications are welcome.\n\nNew since version of 2 May 1993:\n  * Added info on ImageViewer for NeXT.\n\n\nThis article includes the following sections:\n\n[1]  What is JPEG?\n[2]  Why use JPEG?\n[3]  When should I use JPEG, and when should I stick with GIF?\n[4]  How well does JPEG compress images?\n[5]  What are good \"quality\" settings for JPEG?\n[6]  Where can I get JPEG software?\n    [6A] \"canned\" software, viewers, etc.\n    [6B] source code\n[7]  What's all this hoopla about color quantization?\n[8]  How does JPEG work?\n[9]  What about lossless JPEG?\n[10]  Why all the argument about file formats?\n[11]  How do I recognize which file format I have, and what do I do about it?\n[12]  What about arithmetic coding?\n[13]  Does loss accumulate with repeated compression\/decompression?\n[14]  What are some rules of thumb for converting GIF images to JPEG?\n\nSections 1-6 are basic info that every JPEG user needs to know;\nsections 7-14 are advanced info for the curious.\n\nThis article is posted every 2 weeks.  You can always find the latest version\nin the news.answers archive at rtfm.mit.edu (18.70.0.226).  By FTP, fetch\n\/pub\/usenet\/news.answers\/jpeg-faq; or if you don't have FTP, send e-mail to\nmail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with body \"send usenet\/news.answers\/jpeg-faq\".\nMany other FAQ articles are also stored in this archive.  For more\ninstructions on use of the archive, send e-mail to the same address with the\nwords \"help\" and \"index\" (no quotes) on separate lines.  If you don't get a\nreply, the server may be misreading your return address; add a line such as\n\"path myname@mysite\" to specify your correct e-mail address to reply to.\n\n\n----------\n\n\n[1]  What is JPEG?\n\nJPEG (pronounced \"jay-peg\") is a standardized image compression mechanism.\nJPEG stands for Joint Photographic Experts Group, the original name of the\ncommittee that wrote the standard.  JPEG is designed for compressing either\nfull-color or gray-scale digital images of \"natural\", real-world scenes.\nIt does not work so well on non-realistic images, such as cartoons or line\ndrawings.\n\nJPEG does not handle black-and-white (1-bit-per-pixel) images, nor does it\nhandle motion picture compression.  Standards for compressing those types\nof images are being worked on by other committees, named JBIG and MPEG\nrespectively.\n\nJPEG is \"lossy\", meaning that the image you get out of decompression isn't\nquite identical to what you originally put in.  The algorithm achieves much\nof its compression by exploiting known limitations of the human eye, notably\nthe fact that small color details aren't perceived as well as small details\nof light-and-dark.  Thus, JPEG is intended for compressing images that will\nbe looked at by humans.  If you plan to machine-analyze your images, the\nsmall errors introduced by JPEG may be a problem for you, even if they are\ninvisible to the eye.\n\nA useful property of JPEG is that the degree of lossiness can be varied by\nadjusting compression parameters.  This means that the image maker can trade\noff file size against output image quality.  You can make *extremely* small\nfiles if you don't mind poor quality; this is useful for indexing image\narchives, making thumbnail views or icons, etc. etc.  Conversely, if you\naren't happy with the output quality at the default compression setting, you\ncan jack up the quality until you are satisfied, and accept lesser compression.\n\n\n[2]  Why use JPEG?\n\nThere are two good reasons: to make your image files smaller, and to store\n24-bit-per-pixel color data instead of 8-bit-per-pixel data.\n\nMaking image files smaller is a big win for transmitting files across\nnetworks and for archiving libraries of images.  Being able to compress a\n2 Mbyte full-color file down to 100 Kbytes or so makes a big difference in\ndisk space and transmission time!  (If you are comparing GIF and JPEG, the\nsize ratio is more like four to one.  More details below.)\n\nIf your viewing software doesn't support JPEG directly, you'll have to\nconvert JPEG to some other format for viewing or manipulating images.  Even\nwith a JPEG-capable viewer, it takes longer to decode and view a JPEG image\nthan to view an image of a simpler format (GIF, for instance).  Thus, using\nJPEG is essentially a time\/space tradeoff: you give up some time in order to\nstore or transmit an image more cheaply.\n\nIt's worth noting that when network or phone transmission is involved, the\ntime savings from transferring a shorter file can be much greater than the\nextra time to decompress the file.  I'll let you do the arithmetic yourself.\n\nThe other reason why JPEG will gradually replace GIF as a standard Usenet\nposting format is that JPEG can store full color information: 24 bits\/pixel\n(16 million colors) instead of 8 or less (256 or fewer colors).  If you have\nonly 8-bit display hardware then this may not seem like much of an advantage\nto you.  Within a couple of years, though, 8-bit GIF will look as obsolete as\nblack-and-white MacPaint format does today.  Furthermore, for reasons detailed\nin section 7, JPEG is far more useful than GIF for exchanging images among\npeople with widely varying color display hardware.  Hence JPEG is considerably\nmore appropriate than GIF for use as a Usenet posting standard.\n\n\n[3]  When should I use JPEG, and when should I stick with GIF?\n\nJPEG is *not* going to displace GIF entirely; for some types of images,\nGIF is superior in image quality, file size, or both.  One of the first\nthings to learn about JPEG is which kinds of images to apply it to.\n\nAs a rule of thumb, JPEG is superior to GIF for storing full-color or\ngray-scale images of \"realistic\" scenes; that means scanned photographs and\nsimilar material.  JPEG is superior even if you don't have 24-bit display\nhardware, and it is a LOT superior if you do.  (See section 7 for details.)\n\nGIF does significantly better on images with only a few distinct colors,\nsuch as cartoons and line drawings.  In particular, large areas of pixels\nthat are all *exactly* the same color are compressed very efficiently indeed\nby GIF.  JPEG can't squeeze these files as much as GIF does without\nintroducing visible defects.  This sort of image is best kept in GIF form.\n(In particular, single-color borders are quite cheap in GIF files, but they\nshould be avoided in JPEG files.)\n\nJPEG also has a hard time with very sharp edges: a row of pure-black pixels\nadjacent to a row of pure-white pixels, for example.  Sharp edges tend to\ncome out blurred unless you use a very high quality setting.  Again, this\nsort of thing is not found in scanned photographs, but it shows up fairly\noften in GIF files: borders, overlaid text, etc.  The blurriness is\nparticularly objectionable with text that's only a few pixels high.\nIf you have a GIF with a lot of small-size overlaid text, don't JPEG it.\n\nComputer-drawn images (ray-traced scenes, for instance) usually fall between\nscanned images and cartoons in terms of complexity.  The more complex and\nsubtly rendered the image, the more likely that JPEG will do well on it.\nThe same goes for semi-realistic artwork (fantasy drawings and such).\n\nPlain black-and-white (two level) images should never be converted to JPEG.\nYou need at least about 16 gray levels before JPEG is useful for gray-scale\nimages.  It should also be noted that GIF is lossless for gray-scale images\nof up to 256 levels, while JPEG is not.\n\nIf you have an existing library of GIF images, you may wonder whether you\nshould convert them to JPEG.  You will lose a little image quality if you do.\n(Section 7, which argues that JPEG image quality is superior to GIF, only\napplies if both formats start from a full-color original.  If you start from\na GIF, you've already irretrievably lost a great deal of information; JPEG\ncan only make things worse.)  However, the disk space savings may justify\nconverting anyway.  This is a decision you'll have to make for yourself.\nIf you do convert a GIF library to JPEG, see section 14 for hints.  Be\nprepared to leave some images in GIF format, since some GIFs will not\nconvert well.\n\n\n[4]  How well does JPEG compress images?\n\nPretty darn well.  Here are some sample file sizes for an image I have\nhandy, a 727x525 full-color image of a ship in a harbor.  The first three\nfiles are for comparison purposes; the rest were created with the free JPEG\nsoftware described in section 6B.\n\nFile\t   Size in bytes\t\tComments\n\nship.ppm\t1145040  Original file in PPM format (no compression; 24 bits\n\t\t\t or 3 bytes per pixel, plus a few bytes overhead)\nship.ppm.Z\t 963829  PPM file passed through Unix compress\n\t\t\t compress doesn't accomplish a lot, you'll note.\n\t\t\t Other text-oriented compressors give similar results.\nship.gif\t 240438  Converted to GIF with ppmquant -fs 256 | ppmtogif\n\t\t\t Most of the savings is the result of losing color\n\t\t\t info: GIF saves 8 bits\/pixel, not 24.  (See sec. 7.)\n\nship.jpg95\t 155622  cjpeg -Q 95    (highest useful quality setting)\n\t\t\t This is indistinguishable from the 24-bit original,\n\t\t\t at least to my nonprofessional eyeballs.\nship.jpg75\t  58009  cjpeg -Q 75    (default setting)\n\t\t\t You have to look mighty darn close to distinguish this\n\t\t\t from the original, even with both on-screen at once.\nship.jpg50\t  38406  cjpeg -Q 50\n\t\t\t This has slight defects; if you know what to look\n\t\t\t for, you could tell it's been JPEGed without seeing\n\t\t\t the original.  Still as good image quality as many\n\t\t\t recent postings in Usenet pictures groups.\nship.jpg25\t  25192  cjpeg -Q 25\n\t\t\t JPEG's characteristic \"blockiness\" becomes apparent\n\t\t\t at this setting (djpeg -blocksmooth helps some).\n\t\t\t Still, I've seen plenty of Usenet postings that were\n\t\t\t of poorer image quality than this.\nship.jpg5o\t   6587  cjpeg -Q 5 -optimize  (-optimize cuts table overhead)\n\t\t\t Blocky, but perfectly satisfactory for preview or\n\t\t\t indexing purposes.  Note that this file is TINY:\n\t\t\t the compression ratio from the original is 173:1 !\n\nIn this case JPEG can make a file that's a factor of four or five smaller\nthan a GIF of comparable quality (the -Q 75 file is every bit as good as the\nGIF, better if you have a full-color display).  This seems to be a typical\nratio for real-world scenes.\n\n\n[5]  What are good \"quality\" settings for JPEG?\n\nMost JPEG compressors let you pick a file size vs. image quality tradeoff by\nselecting a quality setting.  There seems to be widespread confusion about\nthe meaning of these settings.  \"Quality 95\" does NOT mean \"keep 95% of the\ninformation\", as some have claimed.  The quality scale is purely arbitrary;\nit's not a percentage of anything.\n\nThe name of the game in using JPEG is to pick the lowest quality setting\n(smallest file size) that decompresses into an image indistinguishable from\nthe original.  This setting will vary from one image to another and from one\nobserver to another, but here are some rules of thumb.\n\nThe default quality setting (-Q 75) is very often the best choice.  This\nsetting is about the lowest you can go without expecting to see defects in a\ntypical image.  Try -Q 75 first; if you see defects, then go up.  Except for\nexperimental purposes, never go above -Q 95; saying -Q 100 will produce a\nfile two or three times as large as -Q 95, but of hardly any better quality.\n\nIf the image was less than perfect quality to begin with, you might be able to\ngo down to -Q 50 without objectionable degradation.  On the other hand, you\nmight need to go to a HIGHER quality setting to avoid further degradation.\nThe second case seems to apply much of the time when converting GIFs to JPEG.\nThe default -Q 75 is about right for compressing 24-bit images, but -Q 85 to\n95 is usually better for converting GIFs (see section 14 for more info).\n\nIf you want a very small file (say for preview or indexing purposes) and are\nprepared to tolerate large defects, a -Q setting in the range of 5 to 10 is\nabout right.  -Q 2 or so may be amusing as \"op art\".\n\n(Note: the quality settings discussed in this article apply to the free JPEG\nsoftware described in section 6B, and to many programs based on it.  Other\nJPEG implementations, such as Image Alchemy, may use a completely different\nquality scale.  Some programs don't even provide a numeric scale, just\n\"high\"\/\"medium\"\/\"low\"-style choices.)\n\n\n[6]  Where can I get JPEG software?\n\nMost of the programs described in this section are available by FTP.\nIf you don't know how to use FTP, see the FAQ article \"How to find sources\".\n(If you don't have direct access to FTP, read about ftpmail servers in the\nsame article.)  That article appears regularly in news.answers, or you can\nget it by sending e-mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with\n\"send usenet\/news.answers\/finding-sources\" in the body.  The \"Anonymous FTP\nList FAQ\" may also be helpful --- it's usenet\/news.answers\/ftp-list\/faq in\nthe news.answers archive.\n\nNOTE: this list changes constantly.  If you have a copy more than a couple\nmonths old, get the latest JPEG FAQ from the news.answers archive.\n\n\n[6A]  If you are looking for \"canned\" software, viewers, etc:\n\nThe first part of this list is system-specific programs that only run on one\nkind of system.  If you don't see what you want for your machine, check out\nthe portable JPEG software described at the end of the list.  Note that this\nlist concentrates on free and shareware programs that you can obtain over\nInternet; but some commercial programs are listed too.\n\nX Windows:\n\nXV (shareware, $25) is an excellent viewer for JPEG, GIF, and many other\nimage formats.  It can also do format conversion and some simple image\nmanipulations.  It's available for FTP from export.lcs.mit.edu (18.24.0.12),\nfile contrib\/xv-3.00.tar.Z.  Version 3.00 is a major upgrade with support\nfor 24-bit displays and many other improvements; however, it is brand new\nand still has some bugs lurking.  If you prefer not to be on the bleeding\nedge, stick with version 2.21, also available from export.  Note that\nversion 2.21 is not a good choice if you have a 24-bit display (you'll get\nonly 8-bit color), nor for converting 24-bit images to JPEG.  But 2.21 works\nfine for converting GIF and other 8-bit images to JPEG.  CAUTION: there is a\nglitch in version 2.21: be sure to check the \"save at normal size\" checkbox\nwhen saving a JPEG file, or the file will be blurry.\n\nAnother good choice for X Windows is John Cristy's free ImageMagick package,\nalso available from export.lcs.mit.edu, file contrib\/ImageMagick.tar.Z.\nThis package handles many image processing and conversion tasks.  The\nImageMagick viewer handles 24-bit displays correctly; for colormapped\ndisplays, it does better (though slower) color quantization than XV or the\nbasic free JPEG software.\n\nBoth of the above are large, complex packages.  If you just want a simple\nimage viewer, try xloadimage or xli.  xloadimage supports JPEG in its latest\nrelease, 3.03.  xloadimage is free and available from export.lcs.mit.edu,\nfile contrib\/xloadimage-3.03.tar.Z.  xli is a variant version of xloadimage,\nsaid by its fans to be somewhat faster and more robust than the original.\n(The current xli is indeed faster and more robust than the current\nxloadimage, at least with respect to JPEG files, because it has the IJG v4\ndecoder while xloadimage 3.03 is using a hacked-over v1.  The next\nxloadimage release will fix this.)  xli is also free and available from\nexport.lcs.mit.edu, file contrib\/xli.1.14.tar.Z.  Both programs are said\nto do the right thing with 24-bit displays.\n\n\nMS-DOS:\n\nThis covers plain DOS; for Windows or OS\/2 programs, see the next headings.\n\nOne good choice is Eric Praetzel's free DVPEG, which views JPEG and GIF files.\nThe current version, 2.5, is available by FTP from sunee.uwaterloo.ca\n(129.97.50.50), file pub\/jpeg\/viewers\/dvpeg25.zip.  This is a good basic\nviewer that works on either 286 or 386\/486 machines.  The user interface is\nnot flashy, but it's functional.\n\nAnother freeware JPEG\/GIF\/TGA viewer is Mohammad Rezaei's Hiview.  The\ncurrent version, 1.2, is available from Simtel20 and mirror sites (see NOTE\nbelow), file msdos\/graphics\/hv12.zip.  Hiview requires a 386 or better CPU\nand a VCPI-compatible memory manager (QEMM386 and 386MAX work; Windows and\nOS\/2 do not).  Hiview is currently the fastest viewer for images that are no\nbigger than your screen.  For larger images, it scales the image down to fit\non the screen (rather than using panning\/scrolling as most viewers do).\nYou may or may not prefer this approach, but there's no denying that it\nslows down loading of large images considerably.  Note: installation is a\nbit tricky; read the directions carefully!\n\nA shareware alternative is ColorView for DOS ($30).  This is easier to\ninstall than either of the two freeware alternatives.  Its user interface is\nalso much spiffier-looking, although personally I find it harder to use ---\nmore keystrokes, inconsistent behavior.  It is faster than DVPEG but a\nlittle slower than Hiview, at least on my hardware.  (For images larger than\nscreen size, DVPEG and ColorView seem to be about the same speed, and both\nare faster than Hiview.)  The current version is 2.1, available from\nSimtel20 and mirror sites (see NOTE below), file msdos\/graphics\/dcview21.zip.\nRequires a VESA graphics driver; if you don't have one, look in vesadrv2.zip\nor vesa-tsr.zip from the same directory.  (Many recent PCs have a built-in\nVESA driver, so don't try to load a VESA driver unless ColorView complains\nthat the driver is missing.)\n\nA second shareware alternative is Fullview, which has been kicking around\nthe net for a while, but I don't know any stable archive location for it.\nThe current (rather old) version is inferior to the above viewers anyway.\nThe author tells me that a new version of Fullview will be out shortly\nand it will be submitted to the Simtel20 archives at that time.\n\nThe well-known GIF viewer CompuShow (CSHOW) supports JPEG in its latest\nrevision, 8.60a.  However, CSHOW's JPEG implementation isn't very good:\nit's slow (about half the speed of the above viewers) and image quality is\npoor except on hi-color displays.  Too bad ... it'd have been nice to see a\ngood JPEG capability in CSHOW.  Shareware, $25.  Available from Simtel20 and\nmirror sites (see NOTE below), file msdos\/gif\/cshw860a.zip.\n\nDue to the remarkable variety of PC graphics hardware, any one of these\nviewers might not work on your particular machine.  If you can't get *any*\nof them to work, you'll need to use one of the following conversion programs\nto convert JPEG to GIF, then view with your favorite GIF viewer.  (If you\nhave hi-color hardware, don't use GIF as the intermediate format; try to\nfind a TARGA-capable viewer instead.  VPIC5.0 is reputed to do the right\nthing with hi-color displays.)\n\nThe Independent JPEG Group's free JPEG converters are FTPable from Simtel20\nand mirror sites (see NOTE below), file msdos\/graphics\/jpeg4.zip (or\njpeg4386.zip if you have a 386 and extended memory).  These files are DOS\ncompilations of the free source code described in section 6B; they will\nconvert JPEG to and from GIF, Targa, and PPM formats.\n\nHandmade Software offers free JPEG<=>GIF conversion tools, GIF2JPG\/JPG2GIF.\nThese are slow and are limited to conversion to and from GIF format; in\nparticular, you can't get 24-bit color output from a JPEG.  The major\nadvantage of these tools is that they will read and write HSI's proprietary\nJPEG format as well as the Usenet-standard JFIF format.  Since HSI-format\nfiles are rather widespread on BBSes, this is a useful capability.  Version\n2.0 of these tools is free (prior versions were shareware).  Get it from\nSimtel20 and mirror sites (see NOTE below), file msdos\/graphics\/gif2jpg2.zip.\nNOTE: do not use HSI format for files to be posted on Internet, since it is\nnot readable on non-PC platforms.\n\nHandmade Software also has a shareware image conversion and manipulation\npackage, Image Alchemy.  This will translate JPEG files (both JFIF and HSI\nformats) to and from many other image formats.  It can also display images.\nA demo version of Image Alchemy version 1.6.2 is available from Simtel20 and\nmirror sites (see NOTE below), file msdos\/graphics\/alch162.zip.\n\nNOTE ABOUT SIMTEL20: The Internet's key archive site for PC-related programs\nis Simtel20, full name wsmr-simtel20.army.mil (192.88.110.20).  Simtel20\nruns a non-Unix system with weird directory names; where this document\nrefers to directory (eg) \"msdos\/graphics\" at Simtel20, that really means\n\"pd1:<msdos.graphics>\".  If you are not physically on MILnet, you should\nexpect rather slow FTP transfer rates from Simtel20.  There are several\nInternet sites that maintain copies (mirrors) of the Simtel20 archives;\nmost FTP users should go to one of the mirror sites instead.  A popular USA\nmirror site is oak.oakland.edu (141.210.10.117), which keeps Simtel20 files\nin (eg) \"\/pub\/msdos\/graphics\".  If you have no FTP capability, you can\nretrieve files from Simtel20 by e-mail; see informational postings in\ncomp.archives.msdos.announce to find out how.  If you are outside the USA,\nconsult the same newsgroup to learn where your nearest Simtel20 mirror is.\n\nMicrosoft Windows:\n\nThere are several Windows programs capable of displaying JPEG images.\n(Windows viewers are generally slower than DOS viewers on the same hardware,\ndue to Windows' system overhead.  Note that you can run the DOS conversion\nprograms described above inside a Windows DOS window.)\n\nThe newest entry is WinECJ, which is free and EXTREMELY fast.  Version 1.0\nis available from ftp.rahul.net, file \/pub\/bryanw\/pc\/jpeg\/wecj.zip.\nRequires Windows 3.1 and 256-or-more-colors mode.  This is a no-frills\nviewer with the bad habit of hogging the machine completely while it\ndecodes; and the image quality is noticeably worse than other viewers.\nBut it's so fast you'll use it anyway, at least for previewing...\n\nJView is freeware, fairly fast, has good on-line help, and can write out the\ndecompressed image in Windows BMP format; but it can't create new JPEG\nfiles, and it doesn't view GIFs.  JView also lacks some other useful\nfeatures of the shareware viewers (such as brightness adjustment), but it's\nan excellent basic viewer.  The current version, 0.9, is available from\nftp.cica.indiana.edu (129.79.20.84), file pub\/pc\/win3\/desktop\/jview090.zip.\n(Mirrors of this archive can be found at some other Internet sites,\nincluding wuarchive.wustl.edu.)\n\nWinJPEG (shareware, $20) displays JPEG,GIF,Targa,TIFF, and BMP image files;\nit can write all of these formats too, so it can be used as a converter.\nIt has some other nifty features including color-balance adjustment and\nslideshow.  The current version is 2.1, available from Simtel20 and mirror\nsites (see NOTE above), file msdos\/windows3\/winjp210.zip.  (This is a slow\n286-compatible version; if you register, you'll get the 386-only version,\nwhich is roughly 25% faster.)\n\nColorView is another shareware entry ($30).  This was an early and promising\ncontender, but it has not been updated in some time, and at this point it\nhas no real advantages over WinJPEG.  If you want to try it anyway, the\ncurrent version is 0.97, available from ftp.cica.indiana.edu, file\npub\/pc\/win3\/desktop\/cview097.zip.  (I understand that a new version will\nbe appearing once the authors are finished with ColorView for DOS.)\n\nDVPEG (see DOS heading) also works under Windows, but only in full-screen\nmode, not in a window.\n\nOS\/2:\n\nThe following files are available from hobbes.nmsu.edu (128.123.35.151).\nNote: check \/pub\/uploads for more recent versions --- the hobbes moderator\nis not very fast about moving uploads into their permanent directories.\n\/pub\/os2\/2.x\/graphics\/jpegv4.zip\n    32-bit version of free IJG conversion programs, version 4.\n\/pub\/os2\/all\/graphics\/jpeg4-16.zip\n    16-bit version of same, for OS\/2 1.x.\n\/pub\/os2\/2.x\/graphics\/imgarc12.zip\n    Image Archiver 1.02: image conversion\/viewing with PM graphical interface.\n    Strong on conversion functions, viewing is a bit weaker.  Shareware, $15.\n\/pub\/os2\/2.x\/graphics\/pmjpeg11.zip\n    PMJPEG 1.1: OS\/2 2.x port of WinJPEG, a popular viewer for Windows\n    (see description in Windows section).  Shareware, $20.\n\/pub\/os2\/2.x\/graphics\/pmview85.zip\n    PMView 0.85: JPEG\/GIF\/BMP\/Targa\/PCX viewer.  GIF viewing very fast,\n    JPEG viewing roughly the same speed as the above two programs.  Has\n    image manipulation & slideshow functions.  Shareware, $20.\n\nMacintosh:\n\nMost Mac JPEG programs rely on Apple's JPEG implementation, which is part of\nthe QuickTime system extension; so you need to have QuickTime installed.\nTo use QuickTime, you need a 68020 or better CPU and you need to be running\nSystem 6.0.7 or later.  (If you're running System 6, you must also install\nthe 32-bit QuickDraw extension; this is built-in on System 7.)  You can get\nQuickTime by FTP from ftp.apple.com, file dts\/mac\/quicktime\/quicktime.hqx.\n(As of 11\/92, this file contains QuickTime 1.5, which is better than QT 1.0\nin several ways.  With respect to JPEG, it is marginally faster and\nconsiderably less prone to crash when fed a corrupt JPEG file.  However,\nsome applications seem to have compatibility problems with QT 1.5.)\n\nMac users should keep in mind that QuickTime's JPEG format, PICT\/JPEG, is\nnot the same as the Usenet-standard JFIF JPEG format.  (See section 10 for\ndetails.)  If you post images on Usenet, make sure they are in JFIF format.\nMost of the programs mentioned below can generate either format.\n\nThe first choice is probably JPEGView, a free program for viewing images\nthat are in JFIF format, PICT\/JPEG format, or GIF format.  It also can\nconvert between the two JPEG formats.  The current version, 2.0, is a big\nimprovement over prior versions.  Get it from sumex-aim.stanford.edu\n(36.44.0.6), file \/info-mac\/app\/jpeg-view-20.hqx.  Requires System 7 and\nQuickTime.  On 8-bit displays, JPEGView usually produces the best color\nimage quality of all the currently available Mac JPEG viewers.  JPEGView can\nview large images in much less memory than other Mac viewers; in fact, it's\nthe only one that can deal with JPEG images much over 640x480 pixels on a\ntypical 4MB Mac.  Given a large image, JPEGView automatically scales it down\nto fit on the screen, rather than presenting scroll bars like most other\nviewers.  (You can zoom in on any desired portion, though.)  Some people\nlike this behavior, some don't.  Overall, JPEGView's user interface is very\nwell thought out.\n\nGIFConverter, a shareware ($40) image viewer\/converter, supports JFIF and\nPICT\/JPEG, as well as GIF and several other image formats.  The latest\nversion is 2.3.2.  Get it from sumex-aim.stanford.edu, file\n\/info-mac\/art\/gif\/gif-converter-232.hqx.  Requires System 6.0.5 or later.\nGIFConverter is not better than JPEGView as a plain JPEG\/GIF viewer, but\nit has much more extensive image manipulation and format conversion\ncapabilities, so you may find it worth its shareware fee if you do a lot of\nplaying around with images.  Also, the newest version of GIFConverter can\nload and save JFIF images *without* QuickTime, so it is your best bet if\nyour machine is too old to run QuickTime.  (But it's faster with QuickTime.)\nNote: If GIFConverter runs out of memory trying to load a large JPEG, try\nconverting the file to GIF with JPEG Convert, then viewing the GIF version.\n\nJPEG Convert, a Mac version of the free IJG JPEG conversion utilities, is\navailable from sumex-aim.stanford.edu, file \/info-mac\/app\/jpeg-convert-10.hqx.\nThis will run on any Mac, but it only does file conversion, not viewing.\nYou can use it in conjunction with any GIF viewer.\n\nPrevious versions of this FAQ recommended Imagery JPEG v0.6, a JPEG<=>GIF\nconverter based on an old version of the IJG code.  If you are using this\nprogram, you definitely should replace it with JPEG Convert.\n\nApple's free program PictPixie can view images in JFIF, QuickTime JPEG, and\nGIF format, and can convert between these formats.  You can get PictPixie\nfrom ftp.apple.com, file dts\/mac\/quicktime\/qt.1.0.stuff\/pictpixie.hqx.\nRequires QuickTime.  PictPixie was intended as a developer's tool, and it's\nreally not the best choice unless you like to fool around with QuickTime.\nSome of its drawbacks are that it requires lots of memory, it produces\nrelatively poor color image quality on anything less than a 24-bit display,\nand it has a relatively unfriendly user interface.  Worse, PictPixie is an\nunsupported program, meaning it has some minor bugs that Apple does not\nintend to fix.  (There is an old version of PictPixie, called\nPICTCompressor, floating around the net.  If you have this you should trash\nit, as it's even buggier.  Also, the QuickTime Starter Kit includes a much\ncleaned-up descendant of PictPixie called Picture Compressor.  Note that\nPicture Compressor is NOT free and may not be distributed on the net.)\n\nStorm Technology's Picture Decompress is a free JPEG viewer\/converter.\nThis rather old program is inferior to the above programs in many ways, but\nit will run without System 7 or QuickTime, so you may be forced to use it on\nolder systems.  (It does need 32-bit QuickDraw, so really old machines can't\nuse it.)  You can get it from sumex-aim.stanford.edu, file\n\/info-mac\/app\/picture-decompress-201.hqx.  You must set the file type of a\ndownloaded image file to 'JPEG' to allow Picture Decompress to open it.\n\nIf your machine is too old to run 32-bit QuickDraw (a Mac Plus for instance),\nGIFConverter is your only choice for single-program JPEG viewing.  If you\ndon't want to pay for GIFConverter, use JPEG Convert and a free GIF viewer.\n\nMore and more commercial Mac applications are supporting JPEG, although not\nall can deal with the Usenet-standard JFIF format.  Adobe Photoshop, version\n2.0.1 or later, can read and write JFIF-format JPEG files (use the JPEG\nplug-in from the Acquire menu).  You must set the file type of a downloaded\nJPEG file to 'JPEG' to allow Photoshop to recognize it.\n\nAmiga:\n\n(Most programs listed in this section are stored in the AmiNet archive at\namiga.physik.unizh.ch (130.60.80.80).  There are many mirror sites of this\narchive and you should try to use the closest one.  In the USA, a good\nchoice is wuarchive.wustl.edu; look under \/mirrors\/amiga.physik.unizh.ch\/...)\n\nHamLab Plus is an excellent JPEG viewer\/converter, as well as being a\ngeneral image manipulation tool.  It's cheap (shareware, $20) and can read\nseveral formats besides JPEG.  The current version is 2.0.8.  A demo version\nis available from amiga.physik.unizh.ch (and mirror sites), file\namiga\/gfx\/edit\/hamlab208d.lha.  The demo version will crop images larger\nthan 512x512, but it is otherwise fully functional.\n\nRend24 (shareware, $30) is an image renderer that can display JPEG, ILBM,\nand GIF images.  The program can be used to create animations, even\ncapturing frames on-the-fly from rendering packages like Lightwave.  The\ncurrent version is 1.05, available from amiga.physik.unizh.ch (and mirror\nsites), file amiga\/os30\/gfx\/rend105.lha.  (Note: although this directory is\nsupposedly for AmigaDOS 3.0 programs, the program will also run under\nAmigaDOS 1.3, 2.04 or 2.1.)\n\nViewtek is a free JPEG\/ILBM\/GIF\/ANIM viewer.  The current version is 1.04,\navailable from amiga.physik.unizh.ch (and mirror sites), file\namiga\/gfx\/show\/ViewTek104.lha.\n\nIf you're willing to spend real money, there are several commercial packages\nthat support JPEG.  Two are written by Thomas Krehbiel, the author of Rend24\nand Viewtek.  These are CineMorph, a standalone image morphing package, and\nImageFX, an impressive 24-bit image capture, conversion, editing, painting,\neffects and prepress package that also includes CineMorph.  Both are\ndistributed by Great Valley Products.  Art Department Professional (ADPro),\nfrom ASDG Inc, is the most widely used commercial image manipulation\nsoftware for Amigas.  ImageMaster, from Black Belt Systems, is another\nwell-regarded commercial graphics package with JPEG support.\n\nThe free IJG JPEG software is available compiled for Amigas from\namiga.physik.unizh.ch (and mirror sites) in directory amiga\/gfx\/conv, file\nAmigaJPEGV4.lha.  These programs convert JPEG to\/from PPM,GIF,Targa formats.\n\nThe Amiga world is heavily infested with quick-and-dirty JPEG programs, many\nbased on an ancient beta-test version of the free IJG JPEG software (thanks\nto a certain magazine that published same on its disk-of-the-month, without\nso much as notifying the authors).  Among these are \"AugJPEG\", \"NewAmyJPEG\",\n\"VJPEG\", and probably others I have not even heard of.  In my opinion,\nanything older than IJG version 3 (March 1992) is not worth the disk space\nit's stored on; if you have such a program, trash it and get something newer.\n\nAtari ST:\n\nThe free IJG JPEG software is available compiled for Atari ST, TT, etc,\nfrom atari.archive.umich.edu, file \/atari\/Graphics\/jpeg4bin.zoo.\nThese programs convert JPEG to\/from PPM, GIF, Targa formats.\n\nFor monochrome ST monitors, try MGIF, which manages to achieve four-level\ngrayscale effect by flickering.  Version 4.1 reads JPEG files.  Available\nfrom atari.archive.umich.edu, file \/atari\/Graphics\/mgif41b.zoo.\n\nI have not heard of any other free or shareware JPEG-capable viewers for\nAtaris, but surely there must be some by now?  Pointers appreciated.\n\nAcorn Archimedes:\n\n!ChangeFSI, supplied with RISC OS 3 version 3.10, can convert from and view\nJPEG JFIF format.  Provision is also made to convert images to JPEG,\nalthough this must be done from the CLI rather than by double-clicking.\n\nRecent versions (since 7.11) of the shareware program Translator can handle\nJPEG, along with about 30 other image formats.  While older versions can be\nfound on some Archimedes bboards, the current version is only available by\nregistering with the author, John Kortink, Nutterbrink 31, 7544 WJ, Enschede,\nThe Netherlands.  Price 35 Dutch guilders (about $22 or 10 pounds).\n\nThere's also a commercial product called !JPEG which provides JPEG read\/write\nfunctionality and direct JPEG viewing, as well as a host of other image\nformat conversion and processing options.  This is more expensive but not\nnecessarily better than the above programs.  Contact: DT Software, FREEPOST,\nCambridge, UK.  Tel: 0223 841099.\n\nNeXT:\n\nImageViewer is a PD utility that displays images and can do some format\nconversions.  The current version reads JPEG but does not write it.\nImageViewer is available from the standard NeXT archives at\nsonata.cc.purdue.edu and cs.orst.edu, somewhere in \/pub\/next (both are\ncurrently being re-organized, so it's hard to point to specific\nsub-directories).  Note that there is an older version floating around that\ndoes not support JPEG.\n\n\nPortable software for almost any system:\n\nIf none of the above fits your situation, you can obtain and compile the free\nJPEG conversion software described in 6B.  You'll also need a viewer program.\nIf your display is 8 bits or less, any GIF viewer will do fine; if you have a\ndisplay with more color capability, try to find a viewer that can read Targa\nor PPM 24-bit image files.\n\nThere are numerous commercial JPEG offerings, with more popping up every\nday.  I recommend that you not spend money on one of these unless you find\nthe available free or shareware software vastly too slow.  In that case,\npurchase a hardware-assisted product.  Ask pointed questions about whether\nthe product complies with the final JPEG standard and about whether it can\nhandle the JFIF file format; many of the earliest commercial releases are\nnot and never will be compatible with anyone else's files.\n\n\n[6B]  If you are looking for source code to work with:\n\nFree, portable C code for JPEG compression is available from the Independent\nJPEG Group, which I lead.  A package containing our source code,\ndocumentation, and some small test files is available from several places.\nThe \"official\" archive site for this source code is ftp.uu.net (137.39.1.9\nor 192.48.96.9).  Look under directory \/graphics\/jpeg; the current release\nis jpegsrc.v4.tar.Z.  (This is a compressed TAR file; don't forget to\nretrieve in binary mode.)  You can retrieve this file by FTP or UUCP.\nIf you are on a PC and don't know how to cope with .tar.Z format, you may\nprefer ZIP format, which you can find at Simtel20 and mirror sites (see NOTE\nabove), file msdos\/graphics\/jpegsrc4.zip.  This file will also be available on\nCompuServe, in the GRAPHSUPPORT forum (GO PICS), library 15, as jpsrc4.zip.\nIf you have no FTP access, you can retrieve the source from your nearest\ncomp.sources.misc archive; version 4 appeared as issues 55-72 of volume 34.\n(If you don't know how to retrieve comp.sources.misc postings, see the FAQ\narticle \"How to find sources\", referred to at the top of section 6.)\n\nThe free JPEG code provides conversion between JPEG \"JFIF\" format and image\nfiles in GIF, PBMPLUS PPM\/PGM, Utah RLE, and Truevision Targa file formats.\nThe core compression and decompression modules can easily be reused in other\nprograms, such as image viewers.  The package is highly portable; we have\ntested it on many machines ranging from PCs to Crays.\n\nWe have released this software for both noncommercial and commercial use.\nCompanies are welcome to use it as the basis for JPEG-related products.\nWe do not ask a royalty, although we do ask for an acknowledgement in\nproduct literature (see the README file in the distribution for details).\nWe hope to make this software industrial-quality --- although, as with\nanything that's free, we offer no warranty and accept no liability.\n\nThe Independent JPEG Group is a volunteer organization; if you'd like to\ncontribute to improving our software, you are welcome to join.\n\n\n[7]  What's all this hoopla about color quantization?\n\nMost people don't have full-color (24 bit per pixel) display hardware.\nTypical display hardware stores 8 or fewer bits per pixel, so it can display\n256 or fewer distinct colors at a time.  To display a full-color image, the\ncomputer must map the image into an appropriate set of representative\ncolors.  This process is called \"color quantization\".  (This is something\nof a misnomer, \"color selection\" would be a better term.  We're stuck with\nthe standard usage though.)\n\nClearly, color quantization is a lossy process.  It turns out that for most\nimages, the details of the color quantization algorithm have MUCH more impact\non the final image quality than do any errors introduced by JPEG (except at\nthe very lowest JPEG quality settings).\n\nSince JPEG is a full-color format, converting a color JPEG image for display\non 8-bit-or-less hardware requires color quantization.  This is true for\n*all* color JPEGs: even if you feed a 256-or-less-color GIF into JPEG, what\ncomes out of the decompressor is *not* 256 colors, but thousands of colors.\nThis happens because JPEG's lossiness affects each pixel a little\ndifferently, so two pixels that started with identical colors will probably\ncome out with slightly different colors.  Each original color gets \"smeared\"\ninto a group of nearby colors.  Therefore quantization is always required to\ndisplay a color JPEG on a colormapped display, regardless of the image\nsource.  The only way to avoid quantization is to ask for gray-scale output.\n\n(Incidentally, because of this effect it's nearly meaningless to talk about\nthe number of colors used by a JPEG image.  Even if you attempted to count\nthe number of distinct pixel values, different JPEG decoders would give you\ndifferent results because of roundoff error differences.  I occasionally see\nposted images described as \"256-color JPEG\".  This tells me that the poster\n(a) hasn't read this FAQ and (b) probably converted the JPEG from a GIF.\nJPEGs can be classified as color or gray-scale (just like photographs), but\nnumber of colors just isn't a useful concept for JPEG.)\n\nOn the other hand, a GIF image by definition has already been quantized to\n256 or fewer colors.  (A GIF *does* have a definite number of colors in its\npalette, and the format doesn't allow more than 256 palette entries.)\nFor purposes of Usenet picture distribution, GIF has the advantage that the\nsender precomputes the color quantization, so recipients don't have to.\nThis is also the *disadvantage* of GIF: you're stuck with the sender's\nquantization.  If the sender quantized to a different number of colors than\nwhat you can display, you have to re-quantize, resulting in much poorer\nimage quality than if you had quantized once from a full-color image.\nFurthermore, if the sender didn't use a high-quality color quantization\nalgorithm, you're out of luck.\n\nFor this reason, JPEG offers the promise of significantly better image quality\nfor all users whose machines don't match the sender's display hardware.\nJPEG's full color image can be quantized to precisely match the user's display\nhardware.  Furthermore, you will be able to take advantage of future\nimprovements in quantization algorithms (there is a lot of active research in\nthis area), or purchase better display hardware, to get a better view of JPEG\nimages you already have.  With a GIF, you're stuck forevermore with what was\nsent.\n\nIt's also worth mentioning that many GIF-viewing programs include rather\nshoddy quantization routines.  If you view a 256-color GIF on a 16-color EGA\ndisplay, for example, you are probably getting a much worse image than you\nneed to.  This is partly an inevitable consequence of doing two color\nquantizations (one to create the GIF, one to display it), but often it's\nalso due to sloppiness.  JPEG conversion programs will be forced to use\nhigh quality quantizers in order to get acceptable results at all, and in\nnormal use they will quantize directly to the number of colors to be\ndisplayed.  Thus, JPEG is likely to provide better results than the average\nGIF program for low-color-resolution displays as well as high-resolution ones!\n\nFinally, an ever-growing number of people have better-than-8-bit display\nhardware already: 15-bit \"hi-color\" PC displays, true 24-bit displays on\nworkstations and Macintoshes, etc.  For these people, GIF is already\nobsolete, as it cannot represent an image to the full capabilities of their\ndisplay.  JPEG images can drive these displays much more effectively.\nThus, JPEG is an all-around better choice than GIF for representing images\nin a machine-independent fashion.\n\n\n[8]  How does JPEG work?\n\nThe buzz-words to know are chrominance subsampling, discrete cosine\ntransforms, coefficient quantization, and Huffman or arithmetic entropy\ncoding.  This article's long enough already, so I'm not going to say more\nthan that here.  For technical information, see the comp.compression FAQ.\nThis is available from the news.answers archive at rtfm.mit.edu, in files\n\/pub\/usenet\/news.answers\/compression-faq\/part[1-3].  If you need help in\nusing the news.answers archive, see the top of this article.\n\n\n[9]  What about lossless JPEG?\n\nThere's a great deal of confusion on this subject.  The JPEG committee did\ndefine a truly lossless compression algorithm, i.e., one that guarantees the\nfinal output is bit-for-bit identical to the original input.  However, this\nlossless mode has almost nothing in common with the regular, lossy JPEG\nalgorithm, and it offers much less compression.  At present, very few\nimplementations of lossless JPEG exist, and all of them are commercial.\n\nSaying \"-Q 100\" to the free JPEG software DOES NOT get you a lossless image.\nWhat it does get rid of is deliberate information loss in the coefficient\nquantization step.  There is still a good deal of information loss in the\ncolor subsampling step.  (With the V4 free JPEG code, you can also say\n\"-sample 1x1\" to turn off subsampling.  Keep in mind that many commercial\nJPEG implementations cannot cope with the resulting file.)\n\nEven with both quantization and subsampling turned off, the regular JPEG\nalgorithm is not lossless, because it is subject to roundoff errors in\nvarious calculations.  The maximum error is a few counts in any one pixel\nvalue; it's highly unlikely that this could be perceived by the human eye,\nbut it might be a concern if you are doing machine processing of an image.\n\nAt this minimum-loss setting, regular JPEG produces files that are perhaps\nhalf the size of an uncompressed 24-bit-per-pixel image.  True lossless JPEG\nprovides roughly the same amount of compression, but it guarantees\nbit-for-bit accuracy.\n\nIf you have an application requiring lossless storage of images with less\nthan 6 bits per pixel (per color component), you may want to look into the\nJBIG bilevel image compression standard.  This performs better than JPEG\nlossless on such images.  JPEG lossless is superior to JBIG on images with\n6 or more bits per pixel; furthermore, JPEG is public domain (at least with a\nHuffman back end), while the JBIG techniques are heavily covered by patents.\n\n\n[10]  Why all the argument about file formats?\n\nStrictly speaking, JPEG refers only to a family of compression algorithms;\nit does *not* refer to a specific image file format.  The JPEG committee was\nprevented from defining a file format by turf wars within the international\nstandards organizations.\n\nSince we can't actually exchange images with anyone else unless we agree on\na common file format, this leaves us with a problem.  In the absence of\nofficial standards, a number of JPEG program writers have just gone off to\n\"do their own thing\", and as a result their programs aren't compatible with\nanybody else's.\n\nThe closest thing we have to a de-facto standard JPEG format is some work\nthat's been coordinated by people at C-Cube Microsystems.  They have defined\ntwo JPEG-based file formats:\n  * JFIF (JPEG File Interchange Format), a \"low-end\" format that transports\n    pixels and not much else.\n  * TIFF\/JPEG, aka TIFF 6.0, an extension of the Aldus TIFF format.  TIFF is\n    a \"high-end\" format that will let you record just about everything you\n    ever wanted to know about an image, and a lot more besides :-).  TIFF is\n    a lot more complex than JFIF, and may well prove less transportable,\n    because different vendors have historically implemented slightly different\n    and incompatible subsets of TIFF.  It's not likely that adding JPEG to the\n    mix will do anything to improve this situation.\nBoth of these formats were developed with input from all the major vendors\nof JPEG-related products; it's reasonably likely that future commercial\nproducts will adhere to one or both standards.\n\nI believe that Usenet should adopt JFIF as the replacement for GIF in\npicture postings.  JFIF is simpler than TIFF and is available now; the\nTIFF 6.0 spec has only recently been officially adopted, and it is still\nunusably vague on some crucial details.  Even when TIFF\/JPEG is well\ndefined, the JFIF format is likely to be a widely supported \"lowest common\ndenominator\"; TIFF\/JPEG files may never be as transportable.\n\nA particular case that people may be interested in is Apple's QuickTime\nsoftware for the Macintosh.  QuickTime uses a JFIF-compatible format wrapped\ninside the Mac-specific PICT structure.  Conversion between JFIF and\nQuickTime JPEG is pretty straightforward, and several Mac programs are\navailable to do it (see Mac portion of section 6A).  If you have an editor\nthat handles binary files, you can strip a QuickTime JPEG PICT down to JFIF\nby hand; see section 11 for details.\n\nAnother particular case is Handmade Software's programs (GIF2JPG\/JPG2GIF and\nImage Alchemy).  These programs are capable of reading and writing JFIF\nformat.  By default, though, they write a proprietary format developed by\nHSI.  This format is NOT readable by any non-HSI programs and should not be\nused for Usenet postings.  Use the -j switch to get JFIF output.  (This\napplies to old versions of these programs; the current releases emit JFIF\nformat by default.  You still should be careful not to post HSI-format\nfiles, unless you want to get flamed by people on non-PC platforms.)\n\n\n[11]  How do I recognize which file format I have, and what do I do about it?\n\nIf you have an alleged JPEG file that your software won't read, it's likely\nto be HSI format or some other proprietary JPEG-based format.  You can tell\nwhat you have by inspecting the first few bytes of the file:\n\n1.  A JFIF-standard file will start with the characters (hex) FF D8 FF E0,\n    followed by two variable bytes (often hex 00 10), followed by 'JFIF'.\n\n2.  If you see FF D8 at the start, but not the rest of it, you may have a\n    \"raw JPEG\" file.  This is probably decodable as-is by JFIF software ---\n    it's worth a try, anyway.\n\n3.  HSI files start with 'hsi1'.  You're out of luck unless you have HSI\n    software.  Portions of the file may look like plain JPEG data, but they\n    won't decompress properly with non-HSI programs.\n\n4.  A Macintosh PICT file, if JPEG-compressed, will have a couple hundred\n    bytes of header followed by a JFIF header (scan for 'JFIF').  Strip off\n    everything before the FF D8 and you should be able to read it.\n\n5.  Anything else: it's a proprietary format, or not JPEG at all.  If you are\n    lucky, the file may consist of a header and a raw JPEG data stream.\n    If you can identify the start of the JPEG data stream (look for FF D8),\n    try stripping off everything before that.\n\nIn uuencoded Usenet postings, the characteristic JFIF pattern is\n\n\t\"begin\" line\n\tM_]C_X ...\n\nwhereas uuencoded HSI files will start with\n\n\t\"begin\" line\n\tM:'-I ...\n\nIf you learn to check for the former, you can save yourself the trouble of\ndownloading non-JFIF files.\n\n\n[12]  What about arithmetic coding?\n\nThe JPEG spec defines two different \"back end\" modules for the final output\nof compressed data: either Huffman coding or arithmetic coding is allowed.\nThe choice has no impact on image quality, but arithmetic coding usually\nproduces a smaller compressed file.  On typical images, arithmetic coding\nproduces a file 5 or 10 percent smaller than Huffman coding.  (All the\nfile-size numbers previously cited are for Huffman coding.)\n\nUnfortunately, the particular variant of arithmetic coding specified by the\nJPEG standard is subject to patents owned by IBM, AT&T, and Mitsubishi.\nThus *you cannot legally use arithmetic coding* unless you obtain licenses\nfrom these companies.  (The \"fair use\" doctrine allows people to implement\nand test the algorithm, but actually storing any images with it is dubious\nat best.)\n\nAt least in the short run, I recommend that people not worry about\narithmetic coding; the space savings isn't great enough to justify the\npotential legal hassles.  In particular, arithmetic coding *should not*\nbe used for any images to be exchanged on Usenet.\n\nThere is some small chance that the legal situation may change in the\nfuture.  Stay tuned for further details.\n\n\n[13]  Does loss accumulate with repeated compression\/decompression?\n\nIt would be nice if, having compressed an image with JPEG, you could\ndecompress it, manipulate it (crop off a border, say), and recompress it\nwithout any further image degradation beyond what you lost initially.\nUnfortunately THIS IS NOT THE CASE.  In general, recompressing an altered\nimage loses more information, though usually not as much as was lost the\nfirst time around.\n\nThe next best thing would be that if you decompress an image and recompress\nit *without changing it* then there is no further loss, i.e., you get an\nidentical JPEG file.  Even this is not true; at least, not with the current\nfree JPEG software.  It's essentially a problem of accumulation of roundoff\nerror.  If you repeatedly compress and decompress, the image will eventually\ndegrade to where you can see visible changes from the first-generation\noutput.  (It usually takes many such cycles to get visible change.)\nOne of the things on our to-do list is to see if accumulation of error can\nbe avoided or limited, but I am not optimistic about it.\n\nIn any case, the most that could possibly be guaranteed would be that\ncompressing the unmodified full-color output of djpeg, at the original\nquality setting, would introduce no further loss.  Even such simple changes\nas cropping off a border could cause further roundoff-error degradation.\n(If you're wondering why, it's because the pixel-block boundaries move.\nIf you cropped off only multiples of 16 pixels, you might be safe, but\nthat's a mighty limited capability!)\n\nThe bottom line is that JPEG is a useful format for archival storage and\ntransmission of images, but you don't want to use it as an intermediate\nformat for sequences of image manipulation steps.  Use a lossless format\n(PPM, RLE, TIFF, etc) while working on the image, then JPEG it when you are\nready to file it away.  Aside from avoiding degradation, you will save a lot\nof compression\/decompression time this way :-).\n\n\n[14]  What are some rules of thumb for converting GIF images to JPEG?\n\nAs stated earlier, you *will* lose some amount of image information if you\nconvert an existing GIF image to JPEG.  If you can obtain the original\nfull-color data the GIF was made from, it's far better to make a JPEG from\nthat.  But if you need to save space and have only the GIF to work from,\nhere are some suggestions for getting maximum space savings with minimum\nloss of quality.\n\nThe first rule when converting a GIF library is to look at each JPEG, to\nmake sure you are happy with it, before throwing away the corresponding GIF;\nthat will give you a chance to re-do the conversion with a higher quality\nsetting if necessary.  Some GIFs may be better left as GIFs, as explained in\nsection 3; in particular, cartoon-type GIFs with sixteen or fewer colors\ndon't convert well.  You may find that a JPEG file of reasonable quality\nwill be *larger* than the GIF.  (So check the sizes too.)\n\nExperience to date suggests that large, high-visual-quality GIFs are the best\ncandidates for conversion to JPEG.  They chew up the most storage so offer\nthe most potential savings, and they convert to JPEG with least degradation.\nDon't waste your time converting any GIF much under 100 Kbytes.  Also, don't\nexpect JPEG files converted from GIFs to be as small as those created\ndirectly from full-color originals.  To maintain image quality you may have\nto let the converted files be as much as twice as big as straight-through\nJPEG files would be (i.e., shoot for 1\/2 or 1\/3rd the size of the GIF file,\nnot 1\/4th as suggested in earlier comparisons).\n\nMany people have developed an odd habit of putting a large constant-color\nborder around a GIF image.  While useless, this was nearly free in terms of\nstorage cost in GIF files.  It is NOT free in JPEG files, and the sharp\nborder boundary can create visible artifacts (\"ghost\" edges).  Do yourself\na favor and crop off any border before JPEGing.  (If you are on an X Windows\nsystem, XV's manual and automatic cropping functions are a very painless\nway to do this.)\n\ncjpeg's default Q setting of 75 is appropriate for full-color input, but\nfor GIF inputs, Q settings of 85 to 95 often seem to be necessary to avoid\nimage degradation.  (If you apply smoothing as suggested below, the higher\nQ setting may not be necessary.)\n\nColor GIFs of photographs or complex artwork are usually \"dithered\" to fool\nyour eye into seeing more than the 256 colors that GIF can actually store.\nIf you enlarge the image, you will see that adjacent pixels are often of\nsignificantly different colors; at normal size the eye averages these pixels\ntogether to produce the illusion of an intermediate color value.  The\ntrouble with dithering is that, to JPEG, it looks like high-spatial-frequency\ncolor noise; and JPEG can't compress noise very well.  The resulting JPEG\nfile is both larger and of lower image quality than what you would have\ngotten from JPEGing the original full color image (if you had it).\nTo get around this, you want to \"smooth\" the GIF image before compression.\nSmoothing averages together nearby pixels, thus approximating the color that\nyou thought you saw anyway, and in the process getting rid of the rapid\ncolor changes that give JPEG trouble.  Appropriate use of smoothing will\noften let you avoid using a high Q factor, thus further reducing the size of\nthe compressed file, while still obtaining a better-looking output image\nthan you'd get without smoothing.\n\nWith the V4 free JPEG software (or products based on it), a simple smoothing\ncapability is built in.  Try \"-smooth 10\" or so when converting GIFs.\nValues of 10 to 25 seem to work well for high-quality GIFs.  Heavy-handed\ndithering may require larger smoothing factors.  (If you can see regular\nfine-scale patterns on the GIF image even without enlargement, then strong\nsmoothing is definitely called for.)  Too large a smoothing factor will blur\nthe output image, which you don't want.  If you are an image processing\nwizard, you can also do smoothing with a separate filtering program, such as\npnmconvol from the PBMPLUS package.  However, cjpeg's built-in smoother is\na LOT faster than pnmconvol...\n\nThe upshot of all this is that \"cjpeg -quality 85 -smooth 10\" is probably a\ngood starting point for converting GIFs.  But if you really care about the\nimage, you'll want to check the results and maybe try a few other settings.\n\n\n---------------------\n\nFor more information about JPEG in general or the free JPEG software in\nparticular, contact the Independent JPEG Group at jpeg-info@uunet.uu.net.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I'm trying to get MH compiled (and then xmh) and I'm having some problems.\nI've got mh-6.8, using gcc on SCO 3.2.4.  My MH file is listed below.  Does\nanyone have any suggestions on what I can add to get it to compile??\n\n===========\n\nbin             \/usr\/local\/bin\ndebug           off\netc             \/usr\/local\/lib\/mh\nmail            \/usr\/mail\nmailgroup       mail\nmandir          \/usr\/man\nmanuals         gen\nchown           \/bin\/chown\neditor          prompter\nremove          \/bin\/mv -f\n# if no TCP\/IP sendmail is available: change mts entry to sendmail\nmts             sendmail\/smtp\nbboards         off\nbbdelivery      off\nbbhome          \/usr\/spool\/bboards\nmf              off\npop             off\n# options       SEE BELOW\ncc              gcc\nccoptions       -O -ansi -D__STDC__=0 -DSYSV -DSYSV386 -DSCO -D_SVID\ncurses          -lcurses\nldoptions       -s\nldoptlibs\nlex             lex\nsprintf         int\nsharedlib       off\nslibdir         \/usr\/local\/lib\noldload         off\nranlib          off\n\n# define BIND only of the BSD4.3 named (TCP\/IP) is used\n# define SOCKETS only if the system has BSD4.3 sockets (TCP\/IP)\noptions         ATZ BIND DUMB MHE MHRC MORE='\"\/usr\/bin\/more\"'\noptions         OVERHEAD SHADOW SOCKETS SYS5 SYS5DIR\noptions         TZNAME WHATNOW\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Greetings all,\n   Does anyone use some form of 3D input device?  I would like to hear any\ninformation on any systems that people are currently using...\n\nPlease email responses. I will summarise if I get some feedback.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nWell, the problem just _might_ be that you can't buy any of these bikes in\nNorth America. (Except the GSXR 400 -> Bandit 400)","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Getting wierd again?\n\nOkay we have figure out that a mission specifically to Pluto is to large and to\nexpensive..\n\nOkay what about launching one probe with multiple parts.. Kind of liek the old\nMIRV principle of old Cold War Days. \nBasically what I mean is design a mother ship that has piggy backed probes for\ndifferent missions,namely different planets. Each probe would be tied in with\nthe mother ship (or earth as the case may be).. This is good when and if we go\nfor Mars (the MArs mission can act as either Mother ship or relay point for the\nprobes.\n\nAlso the mother ship would be powered (if not the Mars Mission) by a normal\npropulsion, but also a solar sail (main reason for solar sail race is to see\nwhat can be done and autmoated?) the sail would get the probes to were they\nneeded.. I know the asteroid\/meteor clouds (and such) might get in the way of a \nSail??\n\nMain reasonf ro mother ship idea is to make it more economoical to send\nmultiple probes\/mission\/satellites\/exploreres to different places and cut\ncosts..\nThe probes could do fly bys or ?? we shall see...","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"HELP!  I'm stuck here at a computer in New Jersey and have no access to\na radio or TV.  Could someone kindly post the score of the Canucks-Jets\ngame?  Thanks in advance.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nRiddle me this.  If a god(s) exist why on earth should we grovel?  Why on earth\nshould we give a damm at all?  What evidence do you have that if such a\ncreature(s) exist it deserves anything beyond mild admiration or sheer\nhatred for what it\/they have done in the past (whichever god(s) you care to\npick).  That is assuming any records of their actions are correct.\n\nReligon offers a bliss bubble of self contained reality which is seperate\nfrom the physical world.  Any belief system can leave you in such a state\nand so can drugs.  God(s) are not a requirement.  Only if you remove such\nuseless tappestry can you build a set of morals to build a society upon.\nIt is that or keep on exterminating those who don't believe (or converting\nthem).\n  - Eric\n\nNEW VIRUSES:","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Next GPS launch is scheduled for June 24th.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"but whoever listens to me will live in safety and be at ease, without fear of\nharm.\" \nProverbs 1:33\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Could the guy who wrote the article \"Why I am not Bertrand Russell\"\nresend me a copy?","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\nWhy shouldn't I mind? It sounds as if you are proceeding with just\nthe sort of obfuscation you have accused me of. I always preceeded\nmy statements with \"it is my understanding that...\" Now, I have made\nmy claim clear with regard to the issue of both the Twelve Imams and \nwith Khomeini's supposed claim of infalibility. After hearing your\nseemingly more knowledgable claim that Khomeini made no such claim\nregarding himself, I have withdrawn that portion of my statement\nregarding that claim. However, I have received _no_ such response\nregarding the infallibility of the Twelve Imams. There is nothing\nobfuscationist about my claims, which are always made clearly.\n \nI have received no such clear response regarding the Twelve Imams\nbut rather abstruse references to unusual metaphysical natures and \nother such opaque \"concepts\" often used by people to camoflage the \nbaselessness of their positions, particularly in matters of theology.\nThese are just the sorts of \"concepts\" used by Christian churches\nthe perverting of their religion. \n\n\nAlaikum Wassalam,","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n   An excellent movie.  Not essentially about motorcycles, but\na very poignant look at life in rural Ireland.\n\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"=Hmm.  The police strategy of bursting in with weapons drawn, clearly marked as\n=officers and yelling \"Police\" repeatedly.  This is used every day to bust drug\n=houses.  The idea is to awe the suspects into submission with surprise and\n=display of firepowere in order to avoid a gun fight.  As for not knocking, it's\n=a sad necessity in many cases since the suspects will attempt to escape or even\n=fight.  Usually this strategy works; if it didn't, then it wouldn't be used so\n=commonly, now would it?\n\nHow often is it used when the convoy carrying the brigade is visible for miles\nbefore it reaches the place that's to be searched?\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nCarl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI\/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n Speaking from experience, one doesn't need drugs to become disoriented\nduring hospital stays. I was in hosp for 5 days in late Jan; what with\ngeneral noise at all hours of night, staff coming every time I turned over,\nor whatever, to check me out, I didn't get much sustained sleep at night.\nSpent days groggy & dozing, and all it was from my perspective was that I\nwas TIRED!","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"   >Clipper also allows an extraordinary opportunity for the criminal to\n   >conceal use of super-encryption.  An automated full-system surveillance\n   >mechanism (quite feasible across radio bandwidth) which knows family key F,\n   >can validate Clipper wrappers and N:ESN associations, but it cannot reveal\n   >in realtime the use of super-encryption, unless it knows all unit keys,\n   >which we are being assured are only to be made available in two separate\n   >pieces, upon specific wiretap-like order.\n\n   The serial number will be in a 64 bit block, with a 34 bit filler.  Doesn't\n   take a lot to check to see if that is correct.\n\nDepends on whether the filler is a constant (makes checking easy,\nbut susceptible to replay), or variable (e.g. timer, counter, random),\nwhich makes replay harder and can also make it easier for the\ninquisitors to know if they've missed messages, or gotten them out of\nsequence, or other interesting things that sort of person might care about.\n\nIt is still easy to conceal super-encryption, at least until the\ninquisitors get ahold of the K key, which can take a while,\npresumably not in near-real-time.  (Worst-case, in which the escrow agencies\nprovide the U key to the local cops, still only gets one side of the\nconversation per warrant, unless the same key is used for both directions,\nwhich I suppose the CAPSTONE version of the chip will probably insist on.)","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"My school is settin\u00ff\u00fbg up a new network with bothe Macs and Apple II's.  I'm\nused to ethernet, and don't know mu\u00ffch about LocalTalk.  Two things:  first,\nin MacWherehouse, bthe\u00ffy have PowerUser network connectors, and the caption\nleads you to bel\u00ff\u00fbieve that you can plug them into the phone lines in the\nbuilding and have them work.  Is this true?  I've seen it done by running\nsep\u00fferate phone cords, but never with real lines.  Second, if that does work,\ncould you use a modem \u00ffhooked up to that same line while the network was\nactive?  Help would be greatly appriciated.  BTW-\u00ff\u0092running seperate phone line \nis out of the question, the network wil  VERRY spread o.\n\nEriCronin\n_______________________________________________________________________________\n   Bringing a kind word and a helpful Spirit wherever we can, we are...\n-+- THE ASSOCIATION - a multi-line Macintosh BBS in Grand Blanc, Michigan!\n   Echoes from Fido, InterNet, FamilyNet, ICDMnet, K-12 - PLUS 2Gb files\n   at 313-695-6955 HST\/v.32bis.\n___________________________________________________________________ Testify 2.0\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Archive-name: Intel-Unix-X-faq\nLast-modified: 30 Mar 1993\n\nNote: This is a major re-organization (and replacement) of my\n      \"Frequently Asked Questions About X386\" FAQ list.\n\nThis article includes answers to:\n\nI) What options do I have for X software on my Intel-based Unix system?\n\t1. Free options\n\t2. Commercial options\nII) What is XFree86 and where do I get it?\n\t3. What is XFree86?\n\t4. What OSs are supported?\n\t5. What video hardware is supported?\n\t6. What about accelerated boards?\n\t7. Why doesn't XFree86 support 16-color VGA modes?\n\t8. What other hardware or software requirements are there?\n\t9. Where can I get source for XFree86?\n\t10. Where can I get binaries for XFree86?\nIV) What general things should I know about running XFree86?\n\t11. Installation directories\n\t12. Configuration files\n\t13. Determining VGA dot clocks and monitor modes\n\t14. Rebuilding\/reconfiguring the server from the link kit\nV) What OS-specific things should I know about running XFree86?\n\t15. SVR4\n\t16. SVR3\n\t17. 386BSD\n\t18. Linux\n\t19. Mach\nVI) What things should I know for building XFree86 from source?\nVII) Is there anything special about building clients with XFree86?\n\t20. BSD compatibility library\n\t21. ANSICCOPTIONS\n\nThis article does NOT include answers to general X questions, since these\nare already covered by the X FAQ that is regularly posted by David B. Lewis\n<faq%craft@uunet.uu.net>.\n\nIf you have anything to add or change on the FAQ just let me know.\n(especially if you had a problem that someone else was able to help you with)\nSend changes to steve@ecf.toronto.edu, please put 'FAQ' somewhere\nin the subject line so that my mail filter will put it in the correct\nmail folder.\n\nPlease DO NOT ask me questions that are not answered in the FAQ.  I do not\nhave time to respond to these individually.  Instead, post your question\nto the net, and send me the question and answer together when you get it.\n\nFrequently Asked Questions About X on Intel-based Unix (with answers)\n=====================================================================\n\nI) What options do I have for X software on my Intel-based Unix system?\n\n1. Free options\n\tThe BEST option is XFree86, which is an enhanced version of X386 1.2.\n\tAny other version of X386 will have slower performance, and will\n\tbe more difficult to compile.  Information on how to obtain XFree86\n\tis listed below.\n\n\tX386 is the port of the X11 server to System V\/386 that was\n\tdone by Thomas Roell (roell@sgcs.com).\n\tIt supports a wide variety of SVGA boards.\n\tThere are 2 major free versions: X386 1.1 is based on X11R4,\n\tX386 1.2 is included in MIT's X11R5 distribution (ie. you\n\tdon't need to patch it into the MIT source any more).\n\tX386 1.3 is the current commercial offering from SGCS (see below).\n\n2. Commercial options\n\n     1) Metro Link\n\t2213 W. McNab Road\n\tPompano Beach, FL  33069\n\t(305) 970-7353\n\tFax: (305) 970-7351\n\temail: sales@metrolink.com\n\n\tSummary: OS:    QNX, SVR3, SVR4.[012], SCO, UnixWare, LynxOS, \n\t\t\tDESQview\/X, Venix, ISC, Solaris, Pyramid, SunOS\n\t\t HW:    EGA, VGA, SVGA, TIGA, TARGA, 8514\/A, Mach, \n\t\t\tS3, WD, Fujistu, Matrox, Microfield Graphics, R33020\n\t\t Other: Motif, OpenLook\/XView, XIE Imaging Extension,\n\t\t\tXv Video Extension, Audio Drivers, Multi Media\n\n     2) SGCS (Snitily Graphics Consulting Services)\n\t894 Brookgrove Lane\n\tCupertino, CA  95014\n\t(800) 645-5501, (408) 255-9665\n\tFax: (408) 255-9740\n\temail: info@sgcs.com  or ...!mips!zok!info\n\n\tSummary: OS: SVR3.2, SVR4 \n\t\t HW: 8514\/A (ATI Ultra), S3 (Diamond Stealth), SVGA\n\t\t Other: Motif, Dual-headed server\n\n     3) Consensys Corporation\n\t1301 Pat Booker Rd.\n\tUniversal City, TX 78148\n\tPhone: 1-800-388-1896\n\tFAX:   1-416-940-2903\n\temail: info@consensys.com\n\n\tSummary: OS: Consensys V4.2, Consensys' version of\n\t\t     Unix System V Release 4.2\n\t\t HW: X11R4 server support for VGA, SVGA\n\t\t Other: MoOLIT, Motif, X11R5 Clients\n\n     4) The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.\n\tp.o. box 1900\n\tSanta Cruz, California 95061\n\t(408) 425 7222, (800) SCO UNIX,\n\tFAX: (408) 458 4227\n\temail: info@sco.com\n\n\tSummary: OS: ODT 1.1, ODT 2.0, SCO Unix 3.2v4\n\t\t HW: X11R4 server support for SVGA, 8514\/A, S3, TMS340x0,\n\t\t     WD90C31, XGA2, assorted local bus (see SCO Hardware\n\t\t     Compatabilty Guide for actual card vendors).\n\t\t Other: Motif\t\n\n     5) Answer Software & Consulting\n\tp.o. box 14171\n\tColumbus, Ohio 43214\n\t614-263-XLAB\n\temail: sales@x4coher.com\n\n\tSummary: OS: Coherent 4.0.1r72 or greater\n\t\t HW: works with any VESA compliant video\n\n  NOTE: Other commercial vendors (including OS vendors describing\n\tbundled software) are welcome to submit summary information\n\tsummary information such as the above.\n\nII) What is XFree86 and where do I get it?\n\n3. What is XFree86?\n\n   XFree86 is an enhanced version of X386 1.2, which was distributed with\n   X11R5.  This release consists of many bug fixes, speed improvements, and\n   other enhancements.  Here are the highlights of the enhancements:\n\n    1) The SpeedUp package from Glenn Lai is an integral part of XFree86,\n       selectable at run-time via the Xconfig file.  Some SpeedUps require\n       an ET4000 based SVGA, and others require a virtual screen width of\n       1024.  The SpeedUps suitable to the configuration are selected by\n       default.  With a high-quality ET4000 board (VRAM), this can yield\n       up to 40% improvement of the xStones benchmark over X386 1.2.\n    2) The fX386 packages from Jim Tsillas are included as the default\n       operating mode if SpeedUp is not selected.  This mode is now\n       equivalent in performance to X386 1.1b (X11R4), and approximately\n       20% faster than X386 1.2.\n    3) Support for LOCALCONN, compile-time selectable for server, clients,\n       or both.  This support is for both SVR3.2 and SVR4.  For SVR4.0.4\n       with the 'Advanced Compatibility Package', local connections from\n       SCO XSight\/ODT clients are supported.\n    4) Drivers for ATI and Trident TVGA8900C and TVGA9000 SVGA chipsets.\n       Refer to the files README.ati and README.trident for details about\n       the ATI and Trident drivers.\n    5) Support for compressed bitmap fonts has been added (Thomas Eberhardt's\n       code from the contrib directory on export.lcs.mit.edu).\n    6) Type1 Font code from MIT contrib tape has been included, and is\n       compile-time selectable.  There are contributed Type1 fonts in the\n       contrib directory on export.lcs.mit.edu.\n    7) New configuration method which allows the server's drivers and font\n       renderers to be reconfigured from both source and binary\n       distributions.\n    8) Integrated support for 386BSD, Mach, and Linux.\n    9) A monochrome version of the server which will run on generic VGA\n       cards is now included.\n\n   The following key features were added with the release of XFree86 1.2\n   (they were not in XFree86 1.1):\n\n    1) The monochrome server has been enhanced to do bank-switching of\n       available SVGA memory to allow virtual screens up to 1600x1200 \n       (see the X386(1) manual page for more information).\n    2) Support for the Hercules mono card has been added to the\n       monochrome server, and with it the ability to support a \"two\n       headed\" server - one VGA, and one Hercules.  So far this has only\n       been tested on SVR4 (it is also reported to work under Linux).\n    3) SVR3 shared libraries, tested under ISC SVR3 2.2 and 3.0.1.\n    4) Support for SVR4.2 (There are some special considerations to\n       consider, due to new USL bugs; see the README.SVR4 file for\n       more information.)\n    5) Support for PS\/2 mice, and Logitech MouseMan\/TrackMan (some \n       versions of these devices were not previously compatible).\n    6) A new tutorial on how to develop correct video card and monitor\n       timing data, written by Eric Raymond (derived from previous\n       documentation and a lot of experimentation).\n    7) Greatly improved support for international keyboards, including\n       implementation of the Compose key functionality found on many \n       vendor servers (see the X386keybd(1) manual page for more \n       information).\n    8) The accuracy with which the server detects SVGA pixel clocks has\n       been improved, and the timings are now stored at accuracies of\n       0.1 MHz.  Users may want to consider removing an existing Clocks\n       line from their Xconfig file and re-probing using the new server.\n    9) Many enhancements in error handling and parsing of the Xconfig\n       configuration file.  Error messages are much more informative\n       and intuitive, and more validation is done.  There are many new\n       options that can be enabled in the Xconfig file (see the X386(1) \n       manual page for more information on the format of this file).\n\n       Plus a number of other small things.  Refer to the CHANGELOG file\n       in the source distribution for full details.\n\n   Also included are a tutorial on monitor timing by Eric Raymond, and the\n   current X386 mode database and a sample xdm configuration by David Wexelblat.\n\n4. What OSs are supported?\n\n    XFree86 supports:\n\tSVR4.2: Consensys V4.2\n\tSVR4.0: Microport, Dell, Esix, ISC, AT&T, MST, Consensys, UHC\n\tSVR3: ISC 2.2 & 3.0, AT&T 2.2\n\tLinux, Mach 386, 386BSD 0.1\n\n\tBSD\/386 is not supported, but it should work. The most active\n\tBSD\/386 person is Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.de>.\n\n\tNote that Esix 3.2D and SCO are not supported yet,\n\tbut anyone should feel free to submit patches.\n\tIf you are interested in tackling this, send mail to\n\txfree86@physics.su.oz.au\n\n5. What video hardware is supported?\n\n   At this time, XFree86 1.2 supports the following SVGA chipsets:\n\n\tTseng ET4000\n\tTseng ET3000\n\tParadise PVGA1\n\tWestern Digital WD90C00, WD90C10, WD90C11 (these are supersets of\n\t\tthe PVGA1, and use its driver)\n\tGenoa GVGA\n\tTrident TVGA8900C, TVGA9000\n\tATI 18800, 28800\n\n\tAll of the above are supported in both 256 color and monochrome modes,\n\twith the exception of the ATI chipsets, which are only supported in\n\t256 color mode.\n\n\tThe monochrome server also supports generic VGA cards, using 64k of\n\tvideo memory in a single bank, and the Hercules card.  On the\n\tET3000, only 64k of video memory is supported for the monochrome\n\tserver, and the GVGA has not been tested with more than 64k.\n\n\tIt appears that some of the SVGA card manufacturers are going to\n\tnon-traditional mechanisms for selecting pixel-clock frequencies.  To\n\tavoid having to modify the server to accommodate these schemes XFree86\n\t1.2 adds support for using an external program to select the pixel\n\tclock.  This allows programs to be written as new mechanisms are\n\tdiscovered.  Refer to the README.clkprog file for information on how\n\tthese programs work, if you need to write one.  If you do develop such\n\ta program, the XFree86 team would be interested in including it with\n\tfuture XFree86 releases.\n\n\tIf you are purchasing new hardware for the purpose of using XFree86,\n\tit is suggested that you purchase an ET4000-based board such as the\n\tOrchid ProDesigner IIs.  Avoid recent Diamond boards; XFree86 will not\n\twork with them, because Diamond won't provide programming details.\n\tIn fact, the XFree86 project is actively not supporting new Diamond\n\tproducts, as long as such policies remain in effect.  Contributions\n\tof code will NOT be accepted (because of the potential liabilities).\n\tIf you would like to see this change, tell Diamond about it.\n\n\tSome people have asked if XFree86 would work with local bus or EISA\n\tvideo cards. Theoretically, the means of communication between the\n\tCPU and the video card is irrelevant to Xfree86 compatibility. It\n\tcould be ISA, EISA, or local bus.  What should matter is the chipset\n\ton the video card.  Unfortunately, the developers don't have a lot\n\tof access to EISA or VLB machines, so this is largely an untested\n\ttheory.  However, we have yet to see any reports of things not\n\tworking on one of these buses and we have several reports of Xfree86\n\tworking fine on them.\n\n6. What about accelerated boards?\n\n\tAt this time, there is no support in XFree86 for accelerated boards\n\tlike the S3, ATI Ultra (8514\/A), TIGA, etc.  This support is available\n\tin commercial products from SGCS and MetroLink (for SVR3 and SVR4).\n\n\tAn S3 server is available for 386BSD and Linux.  Contact\n\t<hasty@netcom.com> for 386BSD or <jon@robots.ox.ac.uk> for Linux.\n\n\tA beta 8514\/A server is available for Linux. Contact <martin@cs.unc.edu>\n\tor <jon@robots.ox.ac.uk>. Note: these servers are NOT part of XFree86.\n\n7. Why doesn't XFree86 support 16-color VGA modes?\n\n\tThe reason that this is not supported is the way VGA implements the\n\t16-color modes.  In 256-color modes, each byte of frame buffer memory\n\tcontains 1 pixel.  But the 16-color modes are implemented as bit-\n\tplanes.  Each byte of frame- buffer memory contains 1 bit from each\n\tof each of 8 pixels, and there are four such planes.  The MIT frame-\n\tbuffer code is not designed to deal with this.  If VGA handled\n\t16-color modes by packing 2 4-bit pixels into each byte, the MIT code\n\tcould be modified to support this (or it already may; I'm not sure).\n\tBut for the VGA way of doing things, a complete new frame-buffer\n\timplementation is required.  Some beta testers are looking into this,\n\tbut nothing is yet available from the project.\n\n8. What other hardware or software requirements are there?\n\n\tObviously, a supported SVGA board and OS are required.  To run\n\tX efficiently, 12-16MB of memory should be considered a minimum.\n\tThe various binary releases take 10-40MB of disk space, depending\n\ton the OS (e.g. whether or not it supports shared libraries).\n\tTo build from sources, at least 80MB of free disk space will\n\tbe required, although 120MB should be considered a comfortable \n\tlower bound.\n\n9. Where can I get source for XFree86?\n\n\tSource patches for the current version (1.2, based on X11R5 PL22\n\tfrom MIT), are available via anonymous FTP from:\n\t\texport.lcs.mit.edu (under \/contrib\/XFree86)\n\t\tftp.physics.su.oz.au (under \/XFree86)\n\t\tftp.win.tue.nl (under \/pub\/XFree86)\n\t(For the rest of this FAQ, these 3 location will be called $FTP)\n\n\tRefer to the README file under the specified directory for information\n\ton which files you need to get to build your distribution.\n\n10. Where can I get binaries for XFree86?\n\n\tBinaries are available via anonymous FTP from:\n\t\tftp.physics.su.oz.au\t\t- SVR4 binaries\n\t\t\tunder \/XFree86\/SVR4\n\t\tftp.win.tue.nl\t\t\t- SVR4 binaries\n\t\t\tunder \/pub\/XFree86\/SVR4\n\t\tferkel.ucsb.edu\t\t\t- SVR4 binaries\n\t\t\tunder \/pub\/SVR4\/XFree86\n\t\tstasi.bradley.edu\t\t- SVR4 binaries\n\t\t\tunder \/pub\/XFree86\/SVR4\n\t\tblancmange.ma.utexas.edu\t- SVR3 (ISC) binaries\n\t\t\tunder \/pub\/ISC\n\t\tftp.prz.tu-berlin.de            - SVR3 (ISC) binaries\n\t\t\tunder \/pub\/pc\/isc\/XFree86\n\t\ttsx-11.mit.edu\t\t\t- Linux binaries\n\t\t\tunder \/pub\/linux\/packages\/X11\n\t\tagate.berkeley.edu\t\t- 386BSD binaries\n\t\t\tunder \/pub\/386BSD\/0.1-ports\/XFree86\n\t\tftp.cs.uwm.edu\t\t\t- Mach binaries\n\t\t\tunder \/i386\n\n\tEnsure that you are getting XFree86 1.2 - some of these sites may\n\tarchive older releases as well.  Each binary distribution will\n\tcontain a README file that describes what files you need to take\n\tfrom the archive, and which compile-time option selections were\n\tmade when building the distribution.\n\nIV) What general things should I know about running XFree86?\n\n11. Installation directories\n\n\tThe top-level installation directory is specified by the ProjectRoot\n\t(\/usr\/X386, by default) variable in config\/site.def. Binaries, include\n\tfiles, and libraries are installed in $ProjectRoot\/{bin,include,lib}.\n\n\tThis can be changed when rebuilding from sources, and can be modified\n\tvia symbolic links for those OSs that support them. This directory is\n\tnonstandard, and was chosen this way to allow XFree86 to be installed\n\talongside a commercial\/vendor-supplied X implementation.\n\n12. Configuration files\n\n\tThe XFree86 server reads a configuration file (\"Xconfig\") on startup.\n\tThe search path, contents and syntax for this file are documented in\n\tthe server manpage, which should be consulted before asking questions.\n\n13. Determining VGA dot clocks and monitor modes\n\n\tDavid E Wexelblat (dwex@mtgzfs3.att.com) maintains a database of known\n\tclock settings for VGA cards and monitor settings.\n\tThe database is installed in \/usr\/X386\/lib\/X11\/etc\/modeDB.txt, and\n\tis in the source tree under mit\/server\/ddx\/x386\/etc. This database is\n\talso available from him (for the latest copy), and is kept on\n\texport.lcs.mit.edu in ~\/contrib\/X386.modeDB.Z, which is updated\n\toccasionally.  Obtain a copy of this database.  It just might have the\n\tsettings you need.  If you create new settings, please send them to\n\tDavid for inclusion in the database.\n\n\tIf this doesn't help you, the VideoModes.doc (by Eric Raymond) file \n\twith XFree86 contains tutorials on how to come up with these timings.\n\tIt may be helpful to start with settings that almost work, and use\n\tthis description to get them right.  When you do, send the information\n\tto David Wexelblat for inclusion in the database.\n\n\tNOTE: The old 'clock.exe' program is not supported any more, and\n\t      is completely unnecessary.  If you need to determine dot\n\t      clock values for a new board, remove the 'Clocks' line from\n\t      your Xconfig file (if present), and start the server.  The\n\t      server will probe for clocks itself and print them out.\n\t      You can use these values to put a 'Clocks' line into your\n\t      Xconfig file, which is not necessary, but will speed up\n\t      starting the server in the future.\n\n14. Rebuilding\/reconfiguring the server from the link kit\n\n\tIf you have installed the server Binary Link Kit, it is possible to\n\treconfigure the drivers and font renderers in the server.  This is\n\tfully explained in the README file that is available with the link kit.\n\nV) What OS-specific things should I know about running XFree86?\n\n\tFirst of all, the server must be installed suid-root (mode 4755).\n\n15. SVR4\n\tWhy won't my xterm run properly?\n\n\tIf your kernel is not built with the consem module, you should define\n\tCONSEM=no in you environment. Otherwise xterm won't run.\n\tcsh users should use 'setenv CONSEM no'\n\n\tThe Esix console driver patch 403019 is known to cause keymapping\n\tproblems with XFree86.  It recommended that this patch not be\n\tinstalled.  Alternatively they keymap can be fixed with xmodmap.\n\n16. SVR3\n\n\tMake sure you look at $FTP\/README.ISC, if that's what you are running.\n\n17. 386BSD\n\n\tMake sure you look at $FTP\/README.386BSD.\n\n\tAlso, a separate 386BSD FAQ is maintained by Richard Murphey\n\t<Rich@Rice.edu>.  The latest version should be available in the\n\tfile XFree86-1.2-386BSD-FAQ at the following ftp sites:\n\n\t    agate.berkeley.edu:\/pub\/386BSD\/0.1-ports\/XFree86-1.2\n\t    wuarchive.wustl.edu:\/mirrors4\/386bsd\/0.1-ports\/XFree86-1.2\n\t    grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr:pub\/386BSD\/0.1-ports\/XFree86-1.2\n\n18. Linux\n\n\tYou must be running Linux 0.97pl4 or greater, and have the 4.1 gcc\n\tjump libraries installed.\n\n\tMake sure the binaries X386, X386mono, xload and xterm are setuid root.\n\n\tIf your kernel doesn't have TCP support compiled in, you'll have to\n\trun the server as \"X -pn\". The default startup configuration assumes\n\tthat TCP is not available. If it is, change the two files\n\t\/usr\/X386\/bin\/startx and \/usr\/X386\/lib\/X11\/xdm\/Xservers, removing the\n\t-pn argument to X386.\n\n\tMake sure \/dev\/console is either a link to \/dev\/tty0 or has the major\n\tnumber 4, minor number 0. Also note that if \/dev\/console is not\n\towned by the user running X, then xconsole and xterm will not permit\n\tconsole output redirection. Xdm will properly change the owner, but\n\tstartx won't.\n\n\tWhen running xdm from rc.local, you will need to provide it with\n\ta tty, for example \"xdm < \/dev\/console &\".\n\n\tFor more detailed information, please read the file README present\n\twith the distribution on tsx-11.mit.edu.\n\n19. Mach\n\n\tMake sure you look at $FTP\/README.Mach.\n\nVI) What things should I know for building XFree86 from source?\n\n\tThis section has been removed from the FAQ, since it is\n\tfully explained in $FTP\/README and the OS-specific READMEs.\n\tPlease look at those files for information on building XFree86.\n\nVII) Is there anything special about building clients with XFree86?\n\n20. BSD compatibility library\n\n\tA lot of clients make use of BSD functions like bcopy(), etc.\n\tThe default configuration files are set up to link with libXbsd.a\n\twhich contains emulation for bcopy(), bzero(), bcmp(), ffs(), random(),\n\tseed(). A better way of providing the 'b' functions is to include\n\t<X11\/Xfuncs.h> in source files that call them.  Xfuncs.h provides macro\n\tdefinitions for these in terms of the SYSV 'mem' functions.  If you are\n\tlinking with a vendor supplied library which calls some of these\n\tfunctions, then you should link with libXbsd.a\n\n21. ANSICCOPTIONS\n\n\tThis is something that was added to allow a developer to get rid of the\n\tANSI-ness defined in the default CCOPTIONS without having to rewrite\n\tthe entire CCOPTIONS line.  For example, with stock MIT, you'd see\n\tsomething like\n\t\tCCOPTIONS=\"-ansi -O2 -fwritable-strings\"\n\tand to get rid of the ANSI-ness, the developer would have to put\n\t\tCCOPTIONS=\"-O2 -fwritable-strings\"\n\tin his Imakefile.  With this change, you would see a default of\n\t\tANSICCOPTIONS=\"-ansi\"\n\t\tCCOPTIONS=\"-O2 -fwritable-strings\"\n\tand all the developer would have to put in the Imakefile is:\n\t\tANSICCOPTIONS=\n\tto get rid of the ANSI-ness (many X clients will die a horrible death\n\twith -ansi).  The effect is even more dramatic in practice, because\n\tCCOPTIONS is actually quite complex.  The other issue is that one must\n\tadd 'ANSICCOPTIONS=$(ANSICCOPTIONS)' to a PassCDebugFlags definition.\n\nXFree86 Contact Information\n\n    Ongoing development planning and support is coordinated by the XFree86\n    Core Team.  At this time the Core Team consists of:\n\n\tThe original \"gang of four\":\n\t\tDavid Dawes <dawes@physics.su.oz.au>\n\t\tGlenn Lai <glenn@cs.utexas.edu>\n\t\tJim Tsillas <jtsilla@damon.ccs.northeastern.edu>\n\t\tDavid Wexelblat <dwex@mtgzfs3.att.com>\n\n\tThose supporting non-SYSV operating systems:\n\t\tRobert Baron <Robert.Baron@ernst.mach.cs.cmu.edu> [Mach]\n\t\tRich Murphey <Rich@Rice.edu> [386BSD]\n\t\tOrest Zborowski <obz@kodak.com> [Linux]\n\n    e-mail sent to <xfree86@physics.su.oz.au> will reach all of the core team.\n\n\t--------------------------------------------------\n\nThanks to all the people who already sent me corrections or additions,\nespecially David Wexelblat (one of the major contributors of updates).","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nI don't believe any state licenses herbologists or iridologists.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":" \n \n Well, here in Detroit we get to see and hear Don Cherry quite regularly.\nThe Detroit area picks up Hockey Night in Canada from CBC (ch 9) in\nWindsor where we see Don Cherry's Coaches Corner between periods. We\nalso get to see Don Cherry's Grapevine just before the game. The\nGrapevine is a hockey talk show where Don talks to a player or coach\nabout what else: Hockey.  It's actually a pretty good show and Don\nisn't as annoying as he is on Coaches Corner.  I think this is were\nDon got his nickname 'Grapes' but I'm not sure.  Don use to coach the\nBoston Bruins.  I don't know exactly when that was.  Could someone fill\nme in on this info?\n  A local radio station here in Detroit (WLLZ) talks to Don every Tuesday\nmorning.  Personally, I've had my fill of Donny!  He really pisses me off\nsometimes.  During the Detroit-Toronto game Monday night on CBC, Don gave\nhigh praise to Doug Gilmour, saying he was a two-way player and not\njust a designated goal scorer and that he is probably the best player\nin the game because of that.  That's fine and I agree that Gilmour\nis a good two-way player BUT he said the EXACT same thing about Yzerman\nabout a month ago on a local radio talk show.  What gives?\n  It seems like he just has a set speech that he changes when he goes from\ncity to city.\n  Don Cherry:  'I think <insert star player name for city that he is in>\n              is the best two-way player in the league today.'\n \n  There have been other times (can't remember exactly what he said) that he\nbasically changed his opinions to match the audience he was talking to.\n  Someone here on the net said something about how Don criticized Mario\nLemieux but when the time comes for Don to broadcast the Cup playoffs\nfrom the Civic Center (Yes, I think the Pens will make it out of the\nWales Conference) Don will apologize left and right for his remarks about\nLemieux.  In my opinion, he is an ass.  And I won't change my opinion\nif I'm in a different city.\n  Sorry, if this didn't answer your question better but I just had to get\nthis off my chest.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nI'd be willing to bet that a majority of the cost difference could be\naccounted for by the AF's requirement for superfluous 2167 documentation, 5\nor 6 huge requirements and design reviews, travel expenses flying personnel\naround to meetings, and over specifying the hardware. I doubt that the\nactual fabrication cost in materials and labor would be very different from\nSDIO's costs.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nIn other words, \"Nice camera you got dere.  It would be a shame if somet'in\nwuz ta happen to it...\"\n\n\n\n\nGood.  Keep thinking critically.\n\n\nWhat if the secrecy is actually LESS damaging than the alternative?\n\n\n\nMake your own bite-size pieces.  We'll wait.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"whitsebd@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu (Bryan Whitsell) sent in a list of verses \nwhich he felt condemn homosexuality.  mls@panix.com (Michael Siemon) wrote in \nresponse that some of these verses \"are used against us only through incredibly \nperverse interpretations\" and that others \"simply do not address the issues.\"\n\n[remainder of my post deleted]  The moderator then made some comments I would \nlike to address:\n\n\nIf you are referring to the terms \"effeminate\" and \"homosexuals\" in\nthe above passage, I agree that the accuracy of the translation has\nbeen challenged.  However, I was simply commenting on the charge that\nit is an \"incredibly perverse\" interpretation to read this as a\ncondemnation of homosexuality.  Such a charge seems to imply that no\nreasonable person would ever conclude from the verse that Paul\nintended to condemn homosexuality; however, I think I can see how a\nreasonable person might very well take this view of the verse.\nTherefore I do not believe it is \"incredibly perverse\" to read it in\nthis way.\n\n\nActually, I wasn't thinking of the church at all.  After all, a couple\ndoesn't have to be married by a minister.  A secular justice of the\npeace could do the job, and the two people would be married.  My point\nwas that it is easy to find a biblical basis for heterosexual\nmarriage, but where in the Bible would one get a Christian marriage\nbetween two people of the same sex?  And if you do see a biblical\nbasis for same-sex marriages, how willing would gay Christians be to\n\"save themselves\" for such a marriage and to never have sexual\nintercourse with anyone outside of that marriage relationship?  Please\nnote that I am not trying to imply that gay Christians would not be\nwilling to be so monogamous, I am genuinely interested in hearing\nopinions on the subject.  I have heard comments from gays in the past\nthat lead me to believe they regard promiscuity as one of the main\npoints of being homosexual, yet I tend to doubt that gays who want to\nbe Christian would advocate such a position.  So what is the gay view?\n\n- Mark","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I have some MICE that have a chip numbered HM8348 and HM8350.  I have not  \nbeen able to find information on these.  Any help would be appreciated.\nmcole@nmsu.edu\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nThey can be detached in an emergency.  But expensive hardware is not thrown\naway casually (bearing in mind that nobody knew the design was defective).\nIf the deployment crew had found some nasty flaw -- the lid failing to open,\nfor example -- it would have been a bit embarrassing to have to throw the\nsolar arrays away to get the thing back in the payload bay.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nSadly understandable...\n\n\nYes.\n\nTo be fair, you should really qualify this as semitic-western religions, but\nyou basically go ahead and do this later on anyway.\n\n\nAgain, this should really be evaluated at a personal level.  For example, there\nwas only one Jesus (presumably), and he probably didn't say all that many\nthings, and yet (seemingly) billions and billions of Christian sects have\narisen.  Perhaps there is one that is totally dedicated to rationalism and\nbelieves in Christ as in pantheism.  It would seem to go against the Bible, but\nit is amazing what people come up with under the guise of \"personal\ninterpretation\".\n\n\nThis is a good point.  We have here the quintessential Christian: he sets up a\nsystem of values\/beliefs for himself, which work very well, and every\nevent\/experience is understandable and deablable within the framework of this\nsystem.  However, we also have an individual who has the inability (at least\nnot without some difficulty) to change, which is important, because the problem\nwith such a system is the same as with any system: one cannot be open minded to\nthe point of \"testing hypotheses\" against the basic premise of the system\nwithout destroying whatever faith is invested therein, unless of course, all\nthe tests fail.  In other words, the *fairer* way would be to test and evaluate\nmoralities without the bias\/responsibility of losing\/retaining a system.\n\n\nInteresting, but again, when it seems to basically boil down to individual\nnuances (although not always, I will admit, and probably it is the\nmass-oriented divisions which are the most appalling), it becomes irrelevant,\nunfortunately.\n\n\nGranted\n\n\nIn which case the people become the bullets, and the religion, as the gun,\nmerely offers them a way to more adequately do some harm with themselves, if I\nmay be so bold as to extend your similie?\n\n\nAlso understandable... ;)\n\n-- \n\nbest regards,\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"In the EC, the Corrado VR6 is rated as 'best handling car this side of a \n968'. As it goes, I just read an article in 'Autocar & Motor' comparing the \nVR6 to a Ford Probe (later to be launched in the UK).... The VR6 is more powerful (even more so coz its 2.9 instead of 2.8 in the EC) and more fun to drive\netc etc... but the Probe has a slightly smoother engine (thanx Mazda MX6!)...","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"...\n\nThat people are at risk and that some die during a hostage situation might\nbe considered an acceptable scenario in storming a compound. \n\nWhen EVERYONE dies (save for nine people), including twenty children, the \noutcome must be considered a failure.\n\nNow was the failure due to unforseeable circumstances, incompetence, or\nnegligence?  From the double talk and multiple stories I've seen on the news\ncoming from the FBI and Reno I find \"it was an honest mistake\" hard to swallow\n\nLet's hope they get their stories straight for the second round of questions.\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nMr. Sternlight, your naivete and historical ignorance is appalling.\n\n[ History lesson detailing 1968-74 deleted. ]","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nIt came from a reseller survey.\n \n\nI don't recall any FUD here.  Maybe an example?\n \n\nFor the most part, this newsgroup is \"attack\" oriented.  Microsoft has been\nattacked on anything ranging from the quality of our products, the\nintelligence of our people, the integrity of our business, etc.  ANYONE\nwould get defensive when being baselessly attacked.  We are human beings as\nwell.  You should expect a response when a claim that an employee might\nfeel is unwarranted is leveled.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nRight.  People here believe the government is listening in on\neverything.  Sure.  If you can't provide an answer, change the\nassumptions to something you can deal with.\n\nIt's not a matter of the government listening on on everything, it's a\nmatter of the government listening on anyone they take an interest in.\nSay, if you do something heinous like attend a computer meeting at a\nmall, the Secret Service decides to go for a warrantless search, and\nacquires your name.  It's a matter of any number of possible wiretap\nabuses that cryptology makes far less likely, and this chip can\nsabotage. \n\nPar for the course, though.  I predicted that you'd be jumping in in\nfavor of this.  The reply was that you'd justify anything up to and\nincluding death camps as long as the government backed them and had a\nwritten policy statement.  Perhaps a little extreme, but not much.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"MLB Standings and Scores for Friday, April 23rd, 1993\n\t                   (including yesterday's games)\n\nNATIONAL WEST\t      Won  Lost   Pct.    GB   Last 10  Streak    Home   Road\nSan Francisco Giants   10   06    .625    --     7-3     Won 1   05-02  05-04\nHouston Astros         08   06    .571   1.0     7-3     Won 1   02-04  06-02\nAtlanta Braves         09   08    .529   1.5     4-6    Lost 1   04-03  05-05\nSan Diego Padres       06   08    .429   3.0     5-5     Won 1   03-04  03-04\nLos Angeles Dodgers    06   10    .375   4.0     3-7    Lost 3   03-03  03-07\nColorado Rockies       05   09    .357   4.0     3-7    Lost 1   03-03  02-06\nCincinnati Reds        05   10    .333   4.5     4-6    Lost 1   02-04  03-06\n\nNATIONAL EAST\nPhiladelphia Phillies  10   04    .714    --     7-3    Lost 1   06-02  04-02\nMontreal Expos         09   06    .600   1.5     7-3     Won 4   06-03  03-03\nSt. Louis Cardinals    09   06    .600   1.5     6-4     Won 1   06-03  03-03\nPittsburgh Pirates     08   07    .533   2.5     5-5     Won 1   04-04  04-03\nChicago Cubs           07   07    .500   3.0     5-5    Lost 1   04-04  03-03\nNew York Mets          07   07    .500   3.0     5-5    Lost 1   03-05  04-02\nFlorida Marlins        05   10    .333   5.5     3-7     Won 1   03-06  02-04\n\n\nAMERICAN WEST         Won  Lost   Pct.    GB   Last 10  Streak    Home   Road\nCalifornia Angels      09   04    .692    --     7-3     Won 3   06-02  03-02\nTexas Rangers          08   05    .615   1.0     5-5    Lost 2   04-02  04-03\nMinnesota Twins        08   06    .571   1.5     6-4     Won 1   05-04  03-02\nChicago White Sox      07   07    .500   2.5     5-5     Won 2   02-03  05-04\nSeattle Mariners       07   08    .467   3.0     4-6     Won 2   05-03  02-05\nOakland Athletics      05   08    .385   4.0     3-7    Lost 2   05-04  00-04\nKansas City Royals     05   10    .333   5.0     5-5    Lost 1   03-06  02-04\n\nAMERICAN EAST\nBoston Red Sox         11   05    .688    --     7-3    Lost 2   06-01  05-04\nDetroit Tigers         09   05    .643   1.0     8-2     Won 2   07-01  02-04\nNew York Yankees       08   07    .533   2.5     5-5     Won 2   03-03  05-04\nToronto Blue Jays      08   07    .533   2.5     5-5     Won 1   04-02  04-05\nMilwaukee Brewers      05   07    .417   4.0     4-6    Lost 1   02-02  03-05\nCleveland Indians      05   11    .313   6.0     2-8    Lost 4   04-03  01-08\nBaltimore Orioles      04   09    .308   5.5     4-6    Lost 2   02-05  02-04\n\n\n\t\t\t     YESTERDAY'S SCORES\n                  (IDLE teams listed in alphabetical order)\n\nNATIONAL LEAGUE\t\t\t\tAMERICAN LEAGUE\n\nSan Diego Padres\t2\t\tBoston Red Sox          0\nPhiladelphia Phillies\t1\t\tSeattle Mariners        7\n\nLos Angeles Dodgers\t1\t\tChicago White Sox\t3\nMontreal Expos\t\t3\t\tBaltimore Orioles       2\n\nCincinnati Reds\t\t4\t\tMilwaukee Brewers       4\nPittsburgh Pirates\t5\t\tMinnesota Twins\t        5\n\nAtlanta Braves\t\t3\t\tToronto Blue Jays\t6\nFlorida Marlins\t\t4\t\tKansas City Royals\t3\n\nColorado Rockies        2\t\tCleveland Indians\t0\nSt. Louis Cardinals\t5\t\tCalifornia Angels\t8\n\nSan Francisco Giants   13\t\tNew York Yankees\t5\nNew York Mets\t        4\t\tOakland Athletics\t1\n\nChicago Cubs         IDLE\t\tDetroit Tigers       IDLE\nHouston Astros       IDLE\t\tTexas Rangers\t     IDLE\n-- \n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nJoseph Hernandez          |    RAMS  | |    \/.\\  ******* _|_|_  \/ |   LAKERS\njtchern@ocf.Berkeley.EDU  |   KINGS  | |__ |   | DODGERS _|_|_  | |   RAIDERS\njtcent@soda.Berkeley.EDU  |  ANGELS  |____||_|_| *******  | |  |___|  CLIPPERS","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"The whire wheels aren't chromed, they were to be painted silver\/grey.\n\nThe accelerating from a stop shouldn't be \"doggy\" because of the light\nweight of the car.\n\nDon't pull the topto make it reach the snaps, I pulled a couple out of\nthe top doing that.  Replacing the spanps usually doesn't work.  Let it\nsit in th e sun, open on the car for a couple hours, the try,  GENTLY!!!!\n\nI continually blew up the #4 connecting rod bearing, be sure your not\nburing too much oil.\n\nDon't expect too much of a smooth ride.  The lever arm shocks hold the\nroad, and your bladder.  The are ultra-expensive.  Supposedly the can be\nrebuilt.  J. C. Whitney sell a shock replacement kit the uses standard\nshocks.\n\nI had to rebuid boththe brake and clutch master cylinder, in addition to\nthe clutch slave.  This work made a world of changes.\n\nBe sure the carb is the original type replacement.  My 1970 had dual\nStomberg oil dampenned side draft carbs.\n\nAsk if the clutch has ever been replaced.  To replace the engine and\ntranny have to be pulled as a unit.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI use it to refer to those Christians who take a more\nconservative-literalist approach to the Bible, as distinct from\n\"liberals\".\n\n\nI would use the word \"Christian\" (unqualified) to describe someone to\nwhom the above definition applied.  BTW, it applies to me.\n\n[deletia: Joe Gaut indicates his interest in the BD disaster is from a\ncivil liberties issue, not an attempt to justify Koresh's beliefs\nand\/or practices.]\n\nI agree with Joe about this: if some group wants to believe in\nwhatever god or Invisible Pink Unicorns and go off and live together\nand have group sex, or no sex, or sex only for the leaders (but NOT\nwith children), then, as much as I might believe them to be misguided,\nI think they should have the legal right.  And I hope the\ninvestigation will start by determining whether the feds had any\n*legitimate* reason for going after Koresh in the first place (before\nmoving on to consider the wisdom of various tactics used).\n\n[Joe goes on to dispute the child-abuse allegations.  I'll\n(provisionally) accept this, unless someone has evidence to support\nthe allegations?]\n\nActually I wasn't thinking about the (alleged) child abuse, but about\nthe reports that he had sex with, and fathered children by, several\nwomen in the cult.  I agree this is not a legal matter - consenting\nadults and all that - but Stephen Tice seems to be defending Koresh's\nbeliefs and practices from specifically *Christian* perspective, not a\ncivil liberties perspective.  \n\nI think my question is not really aimed at Joe (and possibly not at\nRay Cote either, who seems to also be taking the political angle), but\nat Stephen Tice.\n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"This discussion on \"objective\" seems to be falling into solipsism (Eg: the\nrecent challenge from Frank Dwyer, for someone to prove that he can actually\nobserve phenomena).  Someones even made the statement that science is\n\"subjective\" and that even atom are \"subjective.\" This is getting a bit silly\nand the word \"objective\" is losing all meaning.  Lets start by remembering the\ndefinition of \"objective\" which has been already presented:\n\n  objective ADJ. 1. Of or having to do with a material object as \n    distinguished from a mental concept. 2. Having actual existence.\n    3.a. Unenfluenced by emotion or personal prejudice. b. Based on\n    observable phenomenon.\n\nThe Objectivity of a thing is not based on whether everyone agrees on that\nthing (eg: the world is objectively round, regardless of the fact that there\nexist flat earthers), but rather whether it is based observable and verifiable\nphenomenon (instead of being based solely on peoples wishes, feeling, mental\nprocesses, etc).  Thus atoms, being based on very observable and repeatable\nphenomenon, are indeed considered to be objective rather than subjective. \nEven weird, high energy physics is based on observable phenomenon (even though\nthat observation can change the outcome).  Nor are those observable phenomenon\naffected by emotion, or personal prejudice (eg: chemical reactions do not\nchange to the whims of different people).  Thus to say that science is not\nobjective (ie: objectively verifiable) is a bit silly, as that is the\npoint of science.  Now I will agree that science is not objectively \"good;\" I\nwill not thereby conclude though that science is not objective. \n\nNow some examples things which are \"objective\":  A D-12 tractor is larger\nthan the average breadbox.  Chlorophyll is green.  Seawater contains salt.\nThere exists ozone in the atmosphere (at least presently).  Ozone blocks \nultraviolet light.  Ultraviolet light increases the incidents of skin Cancer.\n\n\"Good\" on the other hand is a value judgement.  It doesn't seem to have an\nexistence apart from what we give it (unless someone can objectively show the\nexistence of an omnipotent entity which has defined \"good\").  We cannot\nquantify it, touch it or collect it in any concrete sense (eg: I have a bag\nfull of \"good\").  Now we do sometimes attempt to give the word \"good\" an\nobjective meaning, e.g.  \"good\" has been used to denote strength, resiliency,\nspeed, etc.  That though, is a subjective definition, as some might not see\n\"strength\" and etc, as necessarily \"good\" (eg: strength inspired by Naziism \nis not generally viewed as \"good\"). \n\nAs to a morality, I cannot say that I have ever seen a morality strictly based\non verifiable observable phenomenon.  The closest I have seen is some form of\nthe \"Golden Rule,\" which concludes that it is best not to deliberately piss\npeople off, as they will likely then involve themselves in your life, in a\nmanner you won't like.  This is verifiable; when you \"get in someone's face,\"\nthey will often retaliate.  Another objective fact about morality is that a\nmore powerful group can enforce their morality on a weaker group, and thus can\nat times, ignore that form of the \"Golden Rule\" without fear of reprisal.  Now\nas to whether this enforcing of morality is \"good\" or \"bad,\" is quite\nsubjective.  By the way, remember that subjective does not mean that a thing\ncannot be formally stated, or even commonly agreed upon; it only means that\nthat it is not verifiable from observable phenomena, or has a physical\nexistence unto itself.  Also note that I have not stated that there is no such\nthing as an objective morality, or that I could not accept any such a\nmorality; I have simply stated that I have seen no evidence of any such\nmorality. \n\nOne other thing to notice, \"objective\" is many times used as synonymous with\n\"true\" and\/or \"absolute,\" and \"subjective\" sometimes has the connotation of\n\"false\" and\/or \"relative.\" Tain't necessarily so.  For instance, when a\nconclusion is based on objective, but insufficient evidence, then it can be\nboth objective and false.  As to \"absolute,\" it is easy to note that while we\ncan objectively show that TNT is explosive, but that does not absolutely mean\nthat all TNT will explode, and thus objective is not necessarily absolute\neither.  On the other hand, something subjective can also be either\n\"absolutist,\" or \"true.\" For instance, there are some theists who are\nspecifically \"absolutist\" in their morality, even though they have only\nsubjective evidence to back it up.  Further, many a scientist and detective\nhas been motivated by subjective reasons (eg: a \"gut feeling\" or \"hunch\"), to\ninvestigate a phenomena or situation, and gather the objective evidence\nnecessary to support a true hypothesis.  On the whole though, I would have to\nagree that objective evidence is much more trustworthy than subjective\nevidence.\n \n\t\t\t\tLater,\n\n\t\t\t\tDave Butler","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nI recently watched a an episode of \"The Old West\" a TV show on the \nDiscovery Channel (or perhaps the A&E Network), the one hosted by Kenny\nRogers.  This episode was all about the Mormons and how they settled Utah,\netc.\n\nA large portion of the broadcast was about the \"Mountain Meadows Massacre\".\nThe program very specifically pointed out that Brigham Young knew nothing\nabout the incident until long after it had happened (before telegraph), and\nit occured as a result of several men inciting a bunch of paronoid Moromn\nsettlers into what amounted to a mob.  All participants in the incident were\nprosecuted and eccomunicated from the LDS Church.\n\nI suggest you watch a rerun of that episode (they play them over and over) \nand see what they (non-Mormons) have to say about it.\n\n\nLance\n\n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"comments :\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t     ^^^^^^^^^\n ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\nThere is a BIG difference between the status of what you refer to as\nAlexandrians (actually, this includes all Oriental Orthodox Churches\nand not only Copts) and that of Nestorians. The Oriental Orthodox\nChurches never even \"shelter\" Eutyches (the advocator of Monophysitism)\nbut on the contrary, it condemned (and still does condemn) him and his\nheresy. That is why the Eastren (Chalcedonian) Orthodox Church held\ntalks with the Oriental (non-Chalcedonian) that started 30 years ago\nand still continueing till today, but they have converged on many\nissues the most imporatant of which is Christology (I have more \ndetails of the inter-Orthodox dialogue, in case anyone is interested).\nSo I do not see how the \"Alexandrians\" and the Nestorians are in a\nsimilar position.\n\nPeace,","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nWell, GIF stands for Graphics Interchange Format and was put forth by\nCompuserve back in 1987(?) or so.  It was to create a format that could be\nread and displayed by any system.  GIF is limited to 8 bit color but has\na built in compression scheme (LZW?).\n\nIFF is not really a graphics format, but rather a standard way to package\nimages, sounds, animations, text, or whatever into one file.  IFF was\ncreated by Electronic Arts, I do believe (I could be wrong), for the Amiga.\nIt was quickly adopted as pretty much the standard file format for the Amiga.\nThe most common image format for the IFF package is an ILBM (InterLeaved\nBitMap?) but many others exist.  This format supports 24 bit color images.\n\nInformation on both of these and many more are available via anonymous ftp at\nzamenhof.cs.rice.edu in the directory \/pub\/graphics.formats\n(Taken from the FAQ for this news group.)  :)","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nSimple.  First, Andrew is correct, although I can see where there might be\nsome confusion.  It is indeed possible to have two cards *configured* to use\nthe same interrupt.  They can not *share* the interrupt in the sense that it\nis not possible to have both cards active at the same time.\n\nHere is an example.  For some time, I was short of \"free interrupts.\"  I had a\ntape controller (not a \"floppy tape\") that needed one of IRQ0-IRQ7.  (It's an\n*old* tape drive.)  My solution was to use IRQ3 (also used for COM2, where my\nmodem is).  I did this because I reasoned I would never be using the modem and\nthe tape simultaneously.  When kermit runs, it installs its own interrupt\nhandler for IRQ3 and uses the serial port.  If the tape drive were to generate\nan interrupt, kermit would not have a clue what to do with\/for the tape\ncontroller.  (And since the tape controller would not be serviced, it would\nmost likely \"hang.\")  Likewise, when the tape backup software runs, it\ninstalls an interrupt handler for IRQ3.  That handler won't do anything for\nthe serial port.\n\nUnder DOS, printing is NOT interrupt-driven.  Instead, the BIOS polls the\nstatus of the parallel port to determine when another byte may be sent.\nThat's why you can have your sound card and LPT1 both configured to use IRQ7.\nTry that on NT and see how far you'll get. :-)\n-- \nKenneth R. Ballou\t\t\t\tVOICE:\t\t (617) 494-0990\nOberon Software, Inc.\t\t\t\tFAX:\t\t (617) 494-0414\nOne Memorial Drive, Cambridge, MA  02142\tInternet:     ballou@oberon.com","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Emu Emax II Rackmount Sampler w\/ 16 Bit Stereo Sampling\n3 stereo inputs, 6 outs. \nInternal Sequencer\n32 voice polyphony\n170 meg internal HD\nStock ram (2 meg I think)\nPerfect Condition\n5 months old","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nWell maintained chains, running in oil, without those little rubber 'O' rings \nto cause frictional losses, might reach 99% efficiency.  The average open to \nthe dust 'O' ring motorcycle chain probably has a difficult job making 90% \nefficient.\n\n\nTony","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nTerry McCandlish, president of my local BMW club (Buckeye Beemers)\nsells this type of tape.  It comes as a strip approximately 3\" x 12\"\nand can be cut to sizes needed.\n\nYou can call Terry at (614) 837-1960 (Columbus, Ohio).","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"very good.\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nContradicting itself on facts, for example.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"The subject says it all. I bought Adobe Type Manager and find it completely\nuseless. I ftped some atm fonts and couldn't install them. What's the use?\nAre you supposed to be able to convert ATM fonts to Truetype?\n\nIf there's anyone out there who has this program and actually finds it \nuseful, enlighten me!","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n  Too many MDs on the list and not enough RNs in my opinion.\n\n  Doug\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Does anyone have any real experience with the Kubota Kenai\/Denali\nseries of graphics workstations?  They pretty much blow the pants\noff SGI machines and Sun machines in the same price point, which\nis about 50,000 bucks.  Real nice stuff, but I've only seen the\nstuff on paper.  I'm wondering, is there anything NOT to like?  The\nspecs are too massive to get into here, but if a summary is desired\nI could be coaxed into uploading the spec sheet.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"To: ashwin@cc.gatech.edu (Ashwin Ram)\n\nAR>Does the \"Thermoscan\" instrument really work?  It is supposed to give you a\n\nABSOLUTELY!\nYa don't have to do the other end!\n(it is accurate - but technique is important)\n\ncccbbs!rob.welder@uceng.uc.edu","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nFirst of all, I wouldn't have gone after the Davidians for a firearms\nviolation which I object to in the first place.  Second, I wouldn't\nhave executed a search warrant via an armed assault when all the\nDavidians were sure to have been there.  Third of all, I wouldn't have\ncut off all outside communication to Koresh.  And I certainly wouldn't\nhave gone in with a tank-- time was on the FBIs side.  Since they had\noutside resupply, they could wait indefinitely.\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
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{"text":"\nI am seeking any press references to how much tax Perot pays in income taxes. \r\nI've heard the figure of 7 percent, since he gets most of his \r\nhis income from federal and municipal bond interest. Anybody read a reliable\r\nreport somewhere? Thanks!\r\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\tOnly on the FRONT wheel.  Use the lever on the right\n\thandlebar to accomplish this.\n\n\t\t\t\tMichael","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nI've found mine ('93 Probe GT) to do quite well.  \n\n[window problem deleted, artical has been trimmed]\n\n\nI've not had any of the air or leakage problems that have been reported but\ndo get the squeal that Bill describes.  I live in Seattle so the wet weather\nmay be a factor.\n\n\nIf I recall correctly I got two keys.\n\n\n\nThis is true.  I'm wondering if this may be a safety concern.  IE, if people\npound on the place where the airbag lives...\n\n\nNo opinion.\n\n\n\nThe 5 speed is much more fun.  We opted for the automatic for a number of\nreasons but it's still fun, and in some ways more practical.\n\n\nDitto.\n\n\nI too would suspect that this may be true.\n\n\n\nYes!\n\n\n\nDitto.\n\n\nAgree. Check it out.  I don't mind it but would say that if it was much \nstiffer it might be a problem.  (How about the '93 R1 RX-7 for suspension?!) \n\n\nTrue.  \n\n\n\nI've had this problem and read about it.  (or at least I assume the one\nI had was the one I read about :-).  In any case what happened was the\nweld between the muffler and the pipe feeding it (ok, so I'm not a mechanic)\nbroke.  In my case the dealer welded it, ordered replacement parts and\nput them on when they got them.  I suspect this is some sort of 1) design\nflaw, or 2) production flaw.  In any case I have an earlier model and would\nexpect it to be worked out on newer ones.  In any case it is a warrantee\nrepair.  (or they get the keys back!)\n\n\n\nI second this.  There seems to be some things that slipped through but the\ncar seems very sound.  While not perfection (what is) you get an awful\nlot for your money.\n\n\nBTW, Bill has a Probe mailing list.  You might want to subscribe to it if \nyou are interested in more detail.  Try request-ford-probe@world.std.com\n(did I get that right?  never can remember if the request goes on the\nfront or the back :-)\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I'm having an interesting problem with my girlfriend's car.  Before\nI delve into its innards, I thought I'd check \"net.wisdom\" on the\nsubject. :)\n\nIt's a 1985 Buick Skyhawk (I know...I know)\n2.0l EFI 4-banger\nauto\n35k miles\n\nWhen I drive tha car long enough to get it hot (especially at\nhighways speeds) the transmission has this nasty habit of\ngetting \"stuck\" in 3rd gear.  As a result, when you stop for\na light the motor stalls.  Putting the car in park, and waiting\nfor 30-60 seconds before restarting sometimes allows the transmission\nto \"reset\" and go back into 1st.  Otherwise, it just stalls when\nput in drive.  \n\nMy thoughts:  Either it the 3rd gear band is binding and getting\nstuck when it gets hot (not so likely) or perhaps the lock-up\nconverter is not disengaging properly (seems likely).  The least\nlikely (keeping fingers crossed) is that some critical vacuum\nhose has broken\/cracked and this behaviour is due to lack of\nvaccuum somewhere (as used to happen with old modulator valves).\n\nMy background is that my father owns a service station and\nI worked there on and off from 10-19 years of age.  Please\nfeel free to be as technical as you want. :)\n\nI'd appreciate hearing any tips\/suggestions\/offers of free\nbeer. <grin>\n\nSkoal,","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\n\tTo big for a .sig? \n\n\tNo way!\n\n\n\tKeith \" Home of the billdboard .sig files \" Ryan\n\n\t=)\n\n---\n\nPrivate note to Jennifer Fakult.\n\n        \"This post may contain one or more of the following:\n         sarcasm, cycnicism, irony, or humor. Please be aware \n         of this possibility and do not allow yourself to be \n         confused and\/or thrown for a loop. If in doubt, assume\n         all of the above.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n'Alone'? Sorry, but the following western scholars are forced to disagree \nwith you. During the First World War and the ensuing years - 1914-1920, \nthe Armenians through a premeditated and systematic genocide, \ntried to complete its centuries-old policy of annihilation against \nthe Turks and Kurds by savagely murdering 2.5 million Muslims and \ndeporting the rest from their 1,000 year homeland.\n\nThe attempt at genocide is justly regarded as the first instance\nof Genocide in the 20th Century acted upon an entire people.\nThis event is incontrovertibly proven by historians, government\nand international political leaders, such as U.S. Ambassador Mark \nBristol, William Langer, Ambassador Layard, James Barton, Stanford \nShaw, Arthur Chester, John Dewey, Robert Dunn, Papazian, Nalbandian, \nOhanus Appressian, Jorge Blanco Villalta, General Nikolayef, General \nBolkovitinof, General Prjevalski, General Odiselidze, Meguerditche, \nKazimir, Motayef, Twerdokhlebof, General Hamelin, Rawlinson, Avetis\nAharonian, Dr. Stephan Eshnanie, Varandian, General Bronsart, Arfa,\nDr. Hamlin, Boghos Nubar, Sarkis Atamian, Katchaznouni, Rachel \nBortnick, Halide Edip, McCarthy, W. B. Allen, Paul Muratoff and many \nothers.\n\nJ. C. Hurewitz, Professor of Government Emeritus, Former Director of\nthe Middle East Institute (1971-1984), Columbia University.\n\nBernard Lewis, Cleveland E. Dodge Professor of Near Eastern History,\nPrinceton University.\n\nHalil Inalcik, University Professor of Ottoman History & Member of\nthe American Academy of Arts & Sciences, University of Chicago.\n\nPeter Golden, Professor of History, Rutgers University, Newark.\n\nStanford Shaw, Professor of History, University of California at\nLos Angeles.\n\nThomas Naff, Professor of History & Director, Middle East Research\nInstitute, University of Pennsylvania.\n\nRonald Jennings, Associate Professor of History & Asian Studies,\nUniversity of Illinois.\n\nHoward Reed, Professor of History, University of Connecticut.\n\nDankwart Rustow, Distinguished University Professor of Political\nScience, City University Graduate School, New York.\n\nJohn Woods, Associate Professor of Middle Eastern History, \nUniversity of Chicago.\n\nJohn Masson Smith, Jr., Professor of History, University of\nCalifornia at Berkeley.\n\nAlan Fisher, Professor of History, Michigan State University.\n\nAvigdor Levy, Professor of History, Brandeis University.\n\nAndreas G. E. Bodrogligetti, Professor of History, University of California\nat Los Angeles.\n\nKathleen Burrill, Associate Professor of Turkish Studies, Columbia University.\n\nRoderic Davison, Professor of History, George Washington University.\n\nWalter Denny, Professor of History, University of Massachusetts.\n\nCaesar Farah, Professor of History, University of Minnesota.\n\nTom Goodrich, Professor of History, Indiana University of Pennsylvania.\n\nTibor Halasi-Kun, Professor Emeritus of Turkish Studies, Columbia University.\n\nJustin McCarthy, Professor of History, University of Louisville.\n\nJon Mandaville, Professor of History, Portland State University (Oregon).\n\nRobert Olson, Professor of History, University of Kentucky.\n\nMadeline Zilfi, Professor of History, University of Maryland.\n\nJames Stewart-Robinson, Professor of Turkish Studies, University of Michigan.\n\n.......so the list goes on and on and on.....\n\nAs for the genocide of the Azeri people by the Armenians:\n\nSource: Channel 4 News at 19.00, Monday 2 March 1992.\n2 French journalists have seen 32 corpses of men, women and children \nin civilian clothes. Many of them shot dead from their heads as close \nas less than 1 meter.\n\nSource: BBC1 Morning news at 07.37, Tuesday 3 March 1992.\nBBC reporter was live on line and he claimed that he saw more than 100\nbodies of Azeri men, women and children as well as a baby who are shot\ndead from their heads from a very short distance.\n\nSource: BBC1 Morning news at 08:12, Tuesday 3 March 1992.\nVery disturbing picture has shown that many civilian corpses who were \npicked up from mountain. Reporter said he, cameraman and Western \nJournalists have seen more than 100 corpses, who are men, women, \nchildren, massacred by Armenians. They have been shot dead from their \nheads as close as 1 meter. Picture also has shown nearly ten bodies \n(mainly women and children) are shot dead from their heads. Azerbaijan \nclaimed that more than 1000 civilians massacred by Armenian forces.\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nWell, it's closer to Bryce than Bryce is to Arches. I'd spend a lot\nof time studying the maps, there's a lot of \"you can't get there from\nhere\" in that area. You might want to hit the Grand Canyon on the way\nup from California, loop around to Canyonlands\/Moab\/Arches, and then\nback down towards Bryce & Zion on the way home.\n\nMake sure you ride US 12 between Capitol Reef and Bryce, it's been on a\nnumber of \"top 10 roads\" lists.\n\n\nA nice booklet detailing a lot of interesting paved (Byways) and unpaved\n(Backways) roads can be ordered from the Utah Travel Council. I think\nyou can also get a state map from them just for asking.\n\nUtah Byways and Backways\n$4.00 (US)\n\nUtah Travel Council\nCouncil Hall\nCapitol Hill\nSalt Lake City, UT 84114\n\n(801) 583-1030","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Archive-name: macintosh\/general-faq\nVersion: 2.1.3\nLast-modified:  April 16, 1993\n\nCopyright 1993, Elliotte Harold\n\n\nChanges:\n\n\t2.1: Where can I FTP Macintosh software?\n\n\t\tI added the ftp site anl.anl.fr.\n\n\n    2.5: What is .bin?  .hqx?  .cpt?  .image? .etc.?\n\n    \tDisk Doubler will decode Packit archives.  Binhex 5.0\n    \twill decode MacBinary files, NOT StuffIt files as the\n    \tlast version erroneously indicated.\n    \t\n    2.7: I added the question \n     \n    How can I get Binhex, StuffIt etc. from a PC?\n\n    \n\n\n                          comp.sys.mac.faq\n          Part 1: An Introduction to the Macintosh Newsgroups\n\n\nI.   Introduction\n      1. How do I use this document?\n      2. What other information is available?\n      3. Which newsgroup should I post to?\n      4. Someone just asked why the System was taking up sixteen \n      megabytes on their IIcx.  Shouldn't I display my knowledge \n      to the world by posting the seventeenth response to \n      their question?\nII.  FTP\n      1. Where can I FTP Macintosh software?\n      2. Can I get shareware by E-mail?\n      3. Where can I find Application X?\n      4. Can someone mail me Application X?\n      5. What is .bin?  .hqx?  .cpt?  .image? .etc.?\n      6. How can I get BinHex?  StuffIt?  etc.?\n      7. How can I get BinHex, StuffIt, etc. from a PC?\nIII.  Troubleshooting.  What to do when things go wrong\n      1. Identify the problem.\n      2. Read the READ ME file.\n      3. Check for viruses.\n      4. Reinstall the application and all its support files.\n      5. Reinstall the system software.\n      6. Isolate the problem.\n      7. Contact technical support.\nIV.  Preventive Maintenance\n      1. Trash Unneeded Files\n      2. Reevaluate Your Extensions\n      3. Rebuild the desktop.\n      4. Zap the PRAM and Reset the Clock\n      5. Resize the system heap.\n      6. Reinstall the system software.\n      7. Disk Utilities\n      8. Backing Up \n      9. Disk Defragmentation\n     10. Reformatting and partitioning your hard disk\n\nOther FAQ lists currently available:\n\nB.    comp.sys.mac.system:\n\nI.   Memory\n      1. Why is my system using so much memory?\n      2. What is Mode 32?  the 32-bit enabler?  Do I need them?\n      3. Cache and Carry (How much memory should I allot to my cache?)\nII.  System Software\n      1. Why does Apple charge for System 7.1?\n      2. What does System 7.1 give me for my $35 that System 7.0 doesn't?\n      3. Where can I get System 7.1?\n      4. How can I use System 6 on a System 7 only Mac? \n      5. Non-US scripts and systems\n      6. What is System 7 Tuneup?  Do I need it?\n      7. Why do my DA's disappear when I turn on MultiFinder?\n      8. Do I need System 7.0.1?\n      9. How can I get System 7.0.1 on 800K disks?\nIII. Hard Disks, Filesharing, and the File System\n      1. Help! My folder disappeared!\n      2. Why can't I throw this folder away?\n      3. Why can't I share my removable drive?\n      4. Why can't I eject this SyQuest cartridge?  CD-ROM?  etc.\n      5. Why can't I rename my hard disk?\nIV.  Miscellaneous:\n      1. What does System Error XXX mean?\n      2. What is a Type 1 error?\n      3. What is A\/ROSE?\n      4. Easy Access or One Answer, Many Questions\n\n\nC.    comp.sys.mac.misc:\n\nI.   Viruses\n      1. Help!  I have a virus!\n      2. Reporting new viruses\nII.  Printing and PostScript\n      1.  How do I make a PostScript file?\n      2.  How do I print a PostScript file?\n      3.  Why won't my PostScript file print on my mainframe's printer?\n      4.  Why are my PostScript files so big?\n      5.  How can I print PostScript on a non-PostScript printer?\n      6.  How do I make my ImageWriter II print in color?\n      7.  Why doesn't PrintMonitor work with the ImageWriter?\n      8.  Why did my document change when I printed it?\n      9.  How can I preview a PostScript file?\n      10. How do I edit a PostScript file?\nIII. DOS and the Mac\n      1. How can I move files between a Mac and a PC?\n      2. How can I translate files to a DOS format?\n      3. Should I buy SoftPC or a real PC?\nIV.  Security\n      1. How can I prevent users from changing the contents of a folder?\n      2. How can I password protect my Mac?\nV.   No particular place to go  (Miscellaneous Miscellanea)\n      1. Are there any good books about the Mac?\n      2. How do I take a picture of the screen?\n      3. How do I use a picture for my desktop?\n      4. Can I Replace the \"Welcome to Macintosh\" box with a picture?\n      5. What is AutoDoubler? SpaceSaver? More Disk Space?  Are they safe?\n      6. How do they compare to TimesTwo, Stacker and eDisk?\n      7. Where did my icons go?\n      8. Where can I find a user group?\n\n      This work is Copyright 1993 by Elliotte M. Harold.  Permission\n  is hereby granted to distribute this unmodified document provided\n  that no fee in excess of normal on-line charges is required for\n  such distribution.  Portions of this document may be extracted and\n  quoted free of charge and without necessity of citation in normal\n  on-line communication provided only that said quotes are not\n  represented as the correspondent's original work.  Permission for\n  quotation of this document in printed material and edited on-line\n  communication  (such as the Info-Mac Digest and TidBITS) is given\n  subject to normal citation procedures (i.e. you have to say where\n  you got it). \n  \n    Disclaimer:  I do my best to ensure that information contained \n  in this document is current and accurate, but I can accept no\n  responsibility for actions resulting from information contained\n  herein.  This document is provided as is and with no warranty of \n  any kind.  Corrections and suggestions should be addressed to\n  erh0362@tesla.njit.edu. \n  \n    Apple, Macintosh, LaserWriter, ImageWriter, Finder, HyperCard and\n  MultiFinder are registered trademarks and PowerBook is a trademark\n  of Apple Computer, Inc.  Linotronic is a registered trademark of\n  Linotype-Hell AG, Inc.  PostScript is a registered trademark and\n  Illustrator and Photoshop are trademarks of Adobe Systems, Inc. \n  Microsoft is a registered trademark of Microsoft Corporation. \n  PageMaker is a registered trademark of Aldus Corp.  AutoDoubler \n  and DiskDoubler are trademarks of Fifth Generation Systems, Inc. \n  StuffIt and StuffIt Deluxe are trademarks of Raymond Lau and\n  Aladdin Systems, Inc.  StuffIt SpaceSaver is a trademark of Aladdin\n  Systems, Inc.  More Disk Space is a trademark of Alysis Software\n  Corporation.  TimesTwo is a trademark of Golden Triangle Computers,\n  Inc.  UNIX is a registered trademark of AT&T.  All other tradenames\n  are trademarks of their respective manufacturers.\n  \n      This is the FIRST part of the this FAQ.  The second part is \n  posted to comp.sys.mac.system and features many questions about\n  system  software.  The third part is posted every two weeks in\n  comp.sys.mac.misc.  Tables of contents for those two pieces are\n  included above. Please familiarize  yourself with all three\n  sections of this document  before posting. \n  \n         All pieces  are available for anonymous ftp from\n  rtfm.mit.edu (18.172.1.27) in the directory \n  pub\/usenet\/news.answers\/macintosh.  Except for this introductory\n  FAQ which appears in multiple newsgroups and is stored as\n  general-faq.Z, the name of each file has the format of the last\n  part of the group name followed by \"-faq.Z\", e.g the FAQ for\n  comp.sys.mac.system is stored as system-faq.Z and the FAQ for\n  comp.sys.mac.misc is stored as misc-faq.Z.  RTFM stores files as \n  compressed (.Z) BINARY files.  If you leave off the .Z at the end\n  of  the file name when \"getting\" the file, rtfm will automatically \n  decompress the file before sending it to you.  You can also have \n  these files mailed to you by sending an E-mail message to \n  mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with the line:  send\n  pub\/usenet\/news.answers\/macintosh\/\"name\"  in the body text where\n  \"name\" is the name of the file you want as  specified above (e.g.\n  general-faq).  You can also send this server a message with the\n  subject \"help\" for more detailed instructions.   \n\n    \n\n ==================== \n I HAVE A QUESTION...  (1.0)\n ====================\n  \n       Congratulations!  You've come to the right place.  Usenet is \n  a wonderful resource for information ranging from basic questions\n  (How do I lock a floppy disk?) to queries that would make Steve\n  Jobs himself run screaming from the room in terror.  (I used\n  ResEdit to remove resources Init #11, WDEF 34, and nVIR 17 from my\n  system file and used the Hex Editor to add code string #A67B45 as a\n  patch to the SFGetFile routine so the Standard File Dialog Box\n  would be a nice shade of mauve.  Everything worked fine until I\n  installed SuperCDevBlaster, and now when I use the Aldus driver to\n  print from PageMaker 5.0d4 to a Linotronic 6000 my system hangs. \n  P.S.  I'm running System 6.0.2 on a PowerBook 170.) \n  \n       Since the Macintosh newsgroups are medium to high volume, we\n  ask that you first peruse this FAQ list including at least the\n  table of contents for the other pieces of it, check any other\n  relevant on-line resources listed below in question 1.2, especially\n  the FAQ lists for the other Macintosh newsgroups, and RTFM (Read\n  the Friendly Manual) before posting your question.  We realize that\n  you are personally incensed that the System is taking up fourteen\n  of your newly-installed twenty megs of RAM, but this question has\n  already made its way around the world three hundred times before,\n  and it's developing tired feet.  Finally, before posting to any\n  newsgroup (Macintosh or otherwise), please familiarize yourself\n  with the basic etiquette of Usenet as described in the newsgroup\n  news.announce.newusers.\n\n\n HOW DO I USE THIS DOCUMENT?  WHERE CAN I GET IT?  (1.1) \n     \n         comp.sys.mac.faq is currently divided into multiple pieces,\n  a general introduction which you're reading now, and specific lists\n  for the newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system and comp.sys.mac.misc.  FAQ\n  lists for comp.sys.mac.wanted, comp.sys.mac.apps and\n  comp.sys.mac.hardware are in development.  When ready each part\n  will be available in its respective newsgroup.  All pieces are\n  available via anonymous ftp from rtfm.mit.edu in the\n  pub\/usenet\/news.answers\/macintosh directory. Except for this\n  document itself which is named general-faq.Z the pieces are named\n  as per the last part of the newsgroup they cover  followed by\n  \"-faq\", e.g. system-faq.Z, misc-faq.Z.  The .Z means the  file is\n  stored compressed so you'll need to ftp it in binary mode and use\n  either MacCompress, StuffIt Deluxe, or the UNIX uncompress command \n  to decompress it.  However if you leave off the \".Z\" extension when\n   you \"get\" the file, rtfm will automatically decompress the file\n  before sending it to you. \n  \n         This introductory document is posted to all of the concerned\n  newsgroups.  The tables of contents for each of the specific FAQ\n  lists are at the beginning of this file so you should be able to\n  get  at least some idea whether your question is answered anywhere\n  else in the FAQ even if you don't have the other parts at hand. \n  It's not always obvious, especially to newcomers, where a\n  particular question or comment should be posted.  Please\n  familiarize yourself with the FAQ lists in all the major Macintosh\n  newsgroups before posting in any of them.  Which questions appear\n  in which FAQs can serve as a basic guide to what posts belong\n  where. \n  \n         To jump to a particular question search for\n  section-number.question-number enclosed in parentheses.  For\n  example to find \"Where can I FTP Macintosh software?\" search for\n  the string  \"(2.1)\".  To jump to a section instead of a question\n  use a zero for  the question number.\n\n\n WHAT OTHER INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE?  (1.2)\n\n      comp.sys.mac.faq provides short answers to a number of \n  frequently asked questions appropriate for the Usenet newsgroup\n  comp.sys.mac.misc and comp.sys.mac.system.  Four other files are\n  worthy of particular note: Daryl Spitzer maintains a FAQ list\n  covering Macintosh programming for the newsgroup\n  comp.sys.mac.programmer.  It's posted to that group weekly and \n  available for anonymous ftp from ftp.cs.uoregon (128.223.8.8) in \n  \/pub\/mac.  Eric Rosen maintains a frequently asked questions list \n  for comp.sys.mac.comm available in that newsgroup and from\n  rascal.ics.utexas.edu in mac\/faq (where the file you're reading now\n  is also irregularly archived).  This list answers many frequently\n  asked questions about networking, UNIX and the Mac,\n  telecommunications, and foreign file formats.  Norm Walsh has\n  compiled an excellent FAQ for comp.fonts that answers a lot of\n  questions about the various kinds of fonts and cross-platform\n  conversion and printing.  It's available in comp.fonts or by ftp\n  from ibis.cs.umass.edu in \/pub\/norm\/comp.fonts\/FAQ*.  Finally Jim\n  Jagielski maintains a FAQ for comp.unix.aux covering Apple's UNIX\n  environment, A\/UX.  It's posted every 2 to 3 weeks in comp.unix.aux\n  and news.answers. It's available for anonymous ftp at\n  jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov.\n\n\n WHICH NEWSGROUP SHOULD I POST TO?  (1.3)\n  \n      There are no stupid questions, but there are misplaced ones. \n  You wouldn't ask your English teacher how to do the definite\n  integral  of ln x between zero and one, would you?  So don't ask\n  the programmer newsgroup why your system is so slow when Microsoft\n  Word is in the background.  Ignorance of basic netiquette is not an\n  excuse. If you want people to help you, you need to learn their\n  ways of  communicating.  \n  \n      Posting questions to the proper newsgroup will fill your\n  mailbox with pearls of wisdom (and maybe a few rotten oysters too\n  :-) ).  Posting to the wrong newsgroup often engenders a thundering\n  silence.  For instance the most common and glaring mispost, one\n  that seems as incongruous to dwellers in the Macintosh regions of\n  Usenet as would a purple elephant to Aleuts in the Arctic, asking a\n  question about networking anywhere except comp.sys.mac.comm,\n  normally produces no useful responses.  Posting the same question\n  to comp.sys.mac.comm ensures that your post is read and considered\n  by dozens of experienced network administrators and not a few\n  network software designers.\n  \n         Please post to exactly ONE newsgroup.  Do not cross-post. \n  If a question isn't important enough for you to take the extra\n  minute to figure out where it properly belongs, it's not important\n  enough for several thousand people to spend their time reading. \n  For the same reason comp.sys.mac.misc should not be used as a\n  catch-all newsgroup.\n  \n         The breakdown of questions between different newsgroups in\n  this document can also serve as a reasonable guide to what belongs\n  where.  Specifically questions about productivity applications\n  (software you bought your Macintosh to run, not software you bought\n  to make your Macintosh run better) should go to comp.sys.mac.apps\n  unless the application is covered in a more specific newsgroup. \n  Communications programs, games, HyperCard, compilers and databases\n  all have more topical comp.sys.mac.* newsgroups.  Post questions\n  about non-communications hardware including questions about what\n  software is necessary to make particular hardware work to\n  comp.sys.mac.hardware.  Questions about MacOS system software\n  belong in comp.sys.mac.system.  Questions about utilities and\n  extensions normally belong in comp.sys.mac.misc.  Questions about\n  A\/UX go to comp.unix.aux.  Detailed questions about Appletalk\n  belong in comp.protocols.appletalk.\n  \n         Direct questions about HyperCard to comp.sys.mac.hypercard. \n  Non-HyperCard programming questions and questions about development\n  environments should go to comp.sys.mac.programmer.  ResEdit\n  questions may be posted either to comp.sys.mac.misc,\n  comp.sys.mac.system, or comp.sys.mac.programmer; but generally the\n  netters who inhabit the darker recesses of comp.sys.mac.programmer\n  are considerably more practiced at the art of resource hacking. \n  \n         A general exception to the above rules is that any VERY\n  technical question about an application that actually begins to\n  delve into the how's of a program as well as the what's (Recent\n  example: How does WriteNow which is written entirely in assembly\n  compare to other word processors written in high level languages?)\n  might be better addressed to the programmer newsgroup.\n    \n         For Sale and Want to Buy posts should go to\n  comp.sys.mac.wanted and misc.forsale.computers.mac ONLY.  We\n  understand that you're desperate to sell your upgraded 128K Mac to\n  get the $$ for a PowerBook 180; but trust me, anyone who wants to\n  buy it will be reading comp.sys.mac.wanted.  Political and\n  religious questions (The Mac is better than Windows! Is not! Is\n  too! Is not! Is too! Hey! How 'bout the Amiga! What about it? Is\n  Not! Is too!) belong in comp.sys.mac.advocacy.  Anything not\n  specifically mentioned above probably belongs in comp.sys.mac.misc.\n  \n         Finally don't be so provincial as to consider only the\n  comp.sys.mac newsgroups the appropriate forums for your questions. \n  Many questions about modems in comp.sys.mac.comm are much more\n  thoroughly discussed in comp.dcom.modems.  Questions about Mac MIDI\n  are often better handled in comp.music even though it's not a\n  Macintosh specific newsgroup.  Shop around.  Usenet's a big place\n  and not everything relevant to the Macintosh happens in\n  comp.sys.mac.\n\n\n 4. SOMEONE JUST ASKED WHY THE SYSTEM WAS TAKING UP SIXTEEN OF\n THEIR  TWENTY MEGABYTES OF RAM.  SHOULDN'T I PUT MY BRILLIANCE AND\n WIT ON  DISPLAY FOR THE WORLD BY POSTING THE SEVENTEENTH RESPONSE?\n\n      No.  Frequent answers are just as boring and uninteresting as\n  frequent questions.  Unless you really have something new to add to\n  the traditional answers (such as the recent discovery that fonts in\n  System 7.1 could eat memory) private E-mail is a much better medium\n  for answering common questions like this one.\n   \n         You might want to add a mention of this FAQ in your E-mail\n  response and a polite suggestion that your correspondent read it\n  before posting future questions.  I do read all the newsgroups\n  covered here and have written a small script in MicroPhone II that\n  lets me send PWFAQ's (people with frequently asked questions) the\n  section of this document that answers their question with just the\n  click of a button so please don't feel obligated to respond to\n  someone who cares so little about the answer to their question they\n  can't be troubled to read the FAQ list to get it.\n\n    \n\n === \n FTP  (2.0) \n ===\n\n WHERE CAN I FTP MAC SOFTWARE?  (2.1)\n\n      The three major North American Internet archives of shareware,\n  freeware, and demo software are sumex-aim.stanford.edu (36.44.0.6),\n  mac.archive.umich.edu (141.211.165.41), and wuarchive.wustl.edu\n  (128.252.135.4) which mirrors the other two sites and several\n  others. Wuarchive often holds on to files after other sites remove\n  them for space concerns, and still has files that were deleted from\n  the formerly important site, rascal.ics.utexas.edu.  Rascal was\n  notable for storing its files in MacBinary format rather than the\n  less efficient BinHex format common at the other archives.  Unless\n  otherwise noted shareware and freeware mentioned in this document\n  should be available at the above sites.\n  \n       To keep traffic on the Internet manageable, Scandinavians \n  should try connecting to ftp.funet.fi (128.214.6.100), ftp.lth.se\n  (130.235.20.3), or sics.se (192.16.123.90) instead.  Those in \n  the U.K. should look first at src.doc.ic.ac.uk (146.169.2.1). \n  Continental Europeans can try nic.switch.ch (130.59.1.40),  \n  ezinfo.ethz.ch (129.132.2.72), and anl.anl.fr(192.54.179.1). \n  Australian users should try to find what they want at archie.au\n  (139.130.4.6) which mirrors info-mac and mac.archive.  Japanese\n  users will find sumex mirrored at ftp.u-tokyo.ac.jp\n  (130.69.254.254). \n\n         A fourth very important site is ftp.apple.com (130.43.2.3). \n  This is Apple's semi-official repository for system software,\n  developer tools, source code, technical notes, and other things\n  that come more or less straight from Apple's mouth.  Some material\n  at this site may not be distributed outside the U.S. or by other\n  sites that don't have an official license to distribute Apple\n  system software.  Please read the various README documents\n  available at ftp.apple.com for the detailed info if you're\n  connecting from outside the U.S. or if you wish to redistribute\n  material you find here.\n\n\n CAN I GET SHAREWARE BY E-MAIL?  (2.2)\n\n      The info-mac archives at sumex-aim are available by E-mail from\n  LISTSERV@RICEVM1.bitnet (alternately listserv@ricevm1.rice.edu). \n  The listserver responds to the commands $MACARCH HELP, $MACARCH\n  INDEX, and $MACARCH GET filename.  Mac archive files are available\n  from mac@mac.archive.umich.edu.  Send it a message containing the\n  words \"help\" and \"index\" (no quotes) on the first two lines of your\n  message for instructions on getting started and a list of the files\n  you may request.  You can retrieve files from other sites by using\n  the server at ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com.  For details send it a\n  message with just the text \"help\" (no quotes).\n\n\n WHERE CAN I FIND APPLICATION X?  (2.3)\n\n      If you can't find what you're looking for at one of the above\n  sites, try telnetting to your nearest archie server or sending it\n  an E-mail message addressed to archie with the subject \"help.\" \n  Archie servers are located at archie.rutgers.edu (128.6.18.15,\n  America), archie.mcgill.ca (132.206.2.3, the original archie server\n  in Canada), archie.au (139.130.4.6, Australia), archie.funet.fi\n  (128.214.6.100, Scandinavia), and archie.doc.ic.ac.uk (146.169.3.7,\n  the U.K. and the continent).  These sites index the tens of\n  thousands of files available for anonymous ftp.  Login as \"archie\"\n  (no password is needed) and type \"prog filename\" to find what\n  you're looking for or type \"help\" for more detailed instructions. \n  For instance you would type \"prog Disinfectant\" to search for a\n  convenient ftp site for Disinfectant.  If the initial search fails\n  to turn up the file you want, try variations on and substrings of\n  the name.  For instance if you didn't find Disinfectant with \"prog\n  Disinfectant\", you might try \"prog disi\" instead.  Substring\n  searches often hide the gold in a pile of dross.  To avoid many\n  erroneous matches add a \".*\\.hqx\" to the end of the substring, e.g.\n  \"prog disi.*\\.hqx\"  Most Mac software available on the net ends in\n  .hqx but almost no UNIX or PC software does. \n\n         Please check the above archives and ARCHIE personally BEFORE\n  asking where you can find a particular piece of shareware.  If you\n  follow the above advice, you should almost never have to ask the\n  net where to find a particular piece of software.\n\n\n CAN SOMEONE MAIL ME APPLICATION X?  (2.4)\n\n      No.  Nor will anyone mail you a part of a file from\n  comp.binaries.mac that was corrupt or missed at your site.  Please\n  refer to the first questions in this section to find out about\n  anonymous FTP, archie, and automatic E-mail servers.\n\n\n WHAT IS .BIN? .HQX? .CPT? .ETC?  (2.5)\n\n      Most files available by FTP are modified twice to allow them to\n  more easily pass through foreign computer systems.  First they're\n  compressed to make them faster to download, and then they're\n  translated to either a binhex (.hqx) or MacBinary (.bin) format\n  that other computers can digest.  (The Macintosh uses a special\n  two-fork filing system that chokes most other computers.)  BinHex\n  files are 7-bit ASCII text files, while MacBinary files are pure\n  8-bit binary data that must always be transferred using a binary\n  protocol.\n  \n         How a file has been translated and compressed for\n  transmission is indicated by its suffix.  Normally a file will have\n  a name something like filename.xxx.yyy.  .xxx indicates how it was\n  compressed and .yyy indicates how it was translated.  To use a file\n  you've FTP'd and downloaded to your Mac you'll need to reverse the\n  process.  Most files you get from the net require a two-step\n  decoding process.  First change the binhex (.hqx) or MacBinary\n  (.bin) file to a double-clickable Macintosh file; then decompress\n  it.  Which programs decode which file types is covered in the table\n  below.  Also note that most Macintosh telecommunications programs\n  will  automatically convert MacBinary files to regular Macintosh\n  files as they are downloaded.\n\n***************************************************************************\nSuffix:      .sit  .cpt  .hqx  .bin  .pit  .Z  .image  .dd  .zip .uu  .tar \nExtractors\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\nStuffIt 3.0|   X     X     X     X     X                  \nCompact Pro|         X     X \nPackit     |                           X\nUUTool     |                                                      X \nMacCompress|                                X \nSunTar     |               X     X     X                                X \nBinHex 5.0 |                     X \nBinHex 4.0 |               X \nDiskDoubler|                           X                X \nUnZip      |                                                   X \nDiskCopy   |                                     X \nmacutil    |         X     X           X                X\n***************************************************************************\n\n     A few notes on the decompressors:\n\n      StuffIt is a family of products that use several different\n  compression schemes.  The freeware StuffIt Expander will unstuff\n  all of them.  Versions of StuffIt earlier than 3.0 (StuffIt 1.5.1,\n  StuffIt Classic, UnStuffIt, and StuffIt Deluxe 2.0 and 1.0) will\n  not unstuff the increasing number of files stuffed by StuffIt 3.0. \n  You need to get a more recent version of StuffIt or StuffIt\n  Expander. \n    \n         StuffIt 3.0.5 (Lite and Deluxe) consistently makes smaller\n  archives than any other Macintosh compression utility.  To allow\n  maximum space for files on the various ftp sites and to keep\n  net-bandwidth down, please compress all files you send to anonymous\n  ftp sites with StuffIt 3.0.5.\n   \n         UUTool, MacCompress, and SunTar handle the popular UNIX\n  formats of  uuencode (.uu), compress (.Z), and tar (.tar)\n  respectively.  The UNIX versions are often more robust than the Mac\n  products, so use them instead when that's an  option.  Translators\n  that allow StuffIt Lite to expand uuencoded and tar files are also\n  available by anonymous ftp. \n  \n         Macutil is dik winter's package of UNIX utilities to\n  decompress and debinhex files on a workstation before downloading\n  them to a Mac. Since UNIX stores files differently than does the\n  Mac, macutil creates MacBinary (.bin) files which should be\n  automatically converted on download.  It can't decompress\n  everything. In particular it can't decompress the new StuffIt 3.0\n  archives. :-(  However, if you need only one or two files out of an\n  archive--for instance if you want to read the README to find out if\n  a program does what you need it to do before you download all of\n  it--macutil is indispensable.  It can be found at sumex-aim in the\n  info-mac\/unix directory.\n\n     A few notes on the compression formats:\n\n      .bin:  These are MacBinary files.  Always use a binary file\n  transfer protocol when transferring them, never ASCII or text. \n  Most files on the net are stored as .hqx instead.  Only rascal\n  stores most of its files in .bin format.  Most communications\n  programs such as ZTerm and MacKermit are capable of translating\n  MacBinary files on the fly as they download if they know in advance\n  they'll be downloading MacBinary files.\n  \n      .image: This format is normally used only for system software,\n  so that on-line users can download files that can easily be\n  converted into exact copies of the installer floppies.  Instead of\n  using DiskCopy to restore the images to floppies, you can use Steve\n  Christensen's freeware utility  MountImage to treat the images on\n  your hard disk as actual floppies inserted in a floppy drive. \n  MountImage has a reputation for being buggy, so you should have\n  some blank floppies and a copy of DiskCopy handy just in case.\n  \n      .sea (.x, .X):  .sea files don't merit a position in the above\n  table because they're self-extracting.  They may have been created\n  with Compact Pro, StuffIt, or even DiskDoubler; but all should be\n  capable of decompressing themselves when double-clicked.  For some\n  unknown reason Alysis has chosen not to use this industry standard\n  designation for self-extracting archives created with their \n  payware products SuperDisk! and More Disk Space.  Instead they \n  append either .x or .X to self-extracting archives.\n\n\n HOW CAN I GET BINHEX?  STUFFIT?  ETC.?  (2.6)\n\n      By far the easiest way to get these programs is to ask a human\n  being to copy them onto a floppy for you.  If you're at a\n  university there's absolutely no excuse for not finding someone to\n  give you a copy; and if you're anywhere less remote than McMurdo\n  Sound, chances are very good that someone at a computer center,\n  dealership, or user group can provide you with a copy of StuffIt. \n  Once you have StuffIt (any version) you don't need BinHex.\n    \n         If you're such a computer geek that the thought of actually\n  asking a living, breathing human being instead of a computer \n  terminal for something turns you into a quivering mass of \n  protoplasmic jelly, you can probably download a working copy  of\n  StuffIt from a local bulletin board system. \n  \n         If you have religious objections to software gotten by any \n  means other than anonymous ftp, then I suppose I'll mention that \n  you can in fact ftp a working copy of StuffIt though this is by \n  far the hardest way to get it.  Ftp to wuarchive.wustl.edu and \n  login.  Type the word \"binary.\"  Hit return.  Type \"cd\n  mirrors\/rascal.ics.utexas.edu\/compression\" and hit return.  Then\n  \"get StuffIt_Expander_1.0.1_SEA_bin\"  and hit return.  Of course\n  it's always possible that by the time you read this StuffIt\n  Expander will have been updated and the name changed so if this\n  fails look for something similar.  If you've ftp'd straight onto\n  your Mac you should now have a self-extracting archive which will\n  produce a working copy of StuffIt Expander when double-clicked.  If\n  you've ftp'd to your mainframe or UNIX account first, you still\n  need to use a modem program to download it to your Mac.  Just make\n  sure that the Mac is receiving in MacBinary mode and the mainframe\n  is sending in binary mode.  If you need more details on the last\n  step, consult the FAQ list for comp.sys.mac.comm and the manuals\n  for both your mainframe and Macintosh telecommunications software.\n  \n  \n  HOW CAN I GET BINHEX, STUFFIT, ETC. FROM A PC?  (2.7)\n\n       You can't.  There is absolutely NO way to get an executable\n  Macintosh file from an ftp site onto a PC and then onto your Mac\n  without some software obtained by means other than anonymous ftp.\n  You MUST beg, borrow, or steal the necessary software such as\n  Binhex or StuffIt Lite from another person.  I realize this may \n  terrify those among you who haven't left your parents' basement \n  since you got an  Apple II+ in 1980, but eventually you're going \n  to need to link up with some human being other than your mother.  \n  (though I suppose if you're this much of  a nerd you could send \n  your mother out to get it for you.)  While you're gathering\n  your nerves for a venture into the strange and terrifying world \n  of daylight, please don't bother the net by asking this question\n  again.  There simply is no way to move executable Macintosh\n  programs from a PC or other non-Macintosh computer onto a \n  Mac without software that is not bundled with most Macs.\n\n\n\n=================================================================\nTROUBLESHOOTING: WHAT TO DO (BEFORE POSTING) WHEN THINGS GO WRONG (3.0)\n================================================================= \n\n         While the various FAQ lists cover a lot of specific\n  problems, there are far more problems that aren't covered here. \n  These are a few basic techniques you should follow before asking\n  for help.  You should probably also perform the ten-step\n  preventative maintenance routine described in section four,\n  especially rebuilding the desktop (4.3) and resizing the system\n  heap (4.5).  Following these steps may  or may not solve your\n  problem, but it will at least make it easier  for others to\n  recommend solutions to you.\n\n IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM.  (3.1)\n\n      \"Microsoft Word is crashing\" doesn't say much.  What were you\n  doing when it crashed?  Can you repeat the actions that lead to the\n  crash?  The more information you provide about the actions\n  preceding the crash the more likely it is someone can help you. \n  The more precisely you've identified the problem and the actions\n  preceding it (Step 1) the easier it will be to tell if the\n  following steps fix the problem.  For example, \"Sometimes\n  QuarkXPress 3.0 crashes with a coprocessor not installed error.\" is\n  not nearly as helpful as \"QuarkXPress 3.0 crashes when I link two\n  text boxes on a master page when copies of those text boxes already\n  contain text.\"  The former will leave you wondering whether the bug\n  remains after a given step.  The latter lets you go right to the\n  problem and see if it's still there or not.\n\n\n READ THE READ ME FILE.  (3.2)\n\n      Many companies include a list of known incompatibilities and\n  bugs in their READ ME files.  Often these aren't documented in the\n  manual. Read any READ ME files to see if any of the problems sound\n  familiar.\n\n\n CHECK FOR VIRUSES.  (3.3)\n\n      Run Disinfectant or another anti-viral across your disk.  Virus\n  infections are rarer than most people think, but they do occur and\n  they do cause all sorts of weird problems when they do.\n\n\n REINSTALL THE APPLICATION AND ALL ITS SUPPORT FILES.  (3.4)  \n   \n       For half a dozen reasons (external magnetic fields,\n  improperly written software, the alignment of the planets) a file\n  on a disk may not contain the data it's supposed to contain.  This\n  can cause all types of unexplained, unusual behavior.  Restoring\n  from original masters will normally fix this.\n\n\n REINSTALL THE SYSTEM SOFTWARE.  (3.5)  \n\n      Bits are even more likely to get twiddled in the system file\n  than in the application and the effects can be just as disastrous. \n  See question 4.6 for a detailed procedure for performing a  clean\n  reinstall. \n  \n         If the problem continues to occur after you've taken these\n  steps, chances are you've found either a conflict between your\n  application and some other software or a genuine bug in the\n  program.  So it's time to\n\n\n ISOLATE THE PROBLEM.  (3.6)  \n \n         You need to find the minimal system on which the problem\n  will assert itself.  Here are the basic steps of isolating the\n  cause of a system or application crash:\n  \n     a.\tRun only one application at a time. Occasionally applications do\n     conflict with each other.  If the problem does not manifest itself\n     without other applications running simultaneously, you can begin\n     launching other applications until you find the one that causes \n     the crash.\n     \n     b.\tIf you're running System 6, turn off MultiFinder.  If you're\n     running System 7, allot as much memory to the application as you \n     can afford.  Sometimes programs just need more memory, especially \n     when performing complicated operations.\n     \n     c. If you're running System 7, turn off virtual memory and 32-bit\n     addressing.  There's still an awful lot of System 7 hostile\n     software out there including some from companies that really \n     have no excuse.  (Can you say Microsoft Word 5.1, boys and girls?  \n     I knew you could.)  Some of this software only expresses its \n     incompatibilities when certain uncommon actions are taken.\n     \n     d.\tBoot from a virgin system floppy.  If the problem disappears\n     you likely have an init conflict.  You need to progressively remove\n     extensions until the problem vanishes.  Use a little common sense\n     when choosing the first extensions to remove.  If the problem occurs\n     when you try to open a file, remove any inits that mess with the\n     Standard File Open procedure such as Super Boomerang first.  If the\n     problem remains after the obvious candidates have been eliminated,\n     either remove the remaining extensions one at a time or, if you have\n     a lot of them, perform a binary search by removing half of the\n     extensions at a time.  Once the problem disappears add half of the\n     most recently removed set back.  Continue until you've narrowed the\n     conflict down to one extension.  When you think you've found the\n     offending init restart with only that init enabled just to make \n     sure that it and it alone is indeed causing the problem.\n\n\n CONTACT TECHNICAL SUPPORT.  (3.7)\n\n      By now you should have a very good idea of when, where, and why\n  the conflict occurs.  If a tech support number is available for the\n  software, call it.  If you're lucky the company will have a work\n  around or fix available.  If not, perhaps they'll at least add the\n  bug to their database of problems to be fixed in the next release.\n\n    \n\n ====================== \n PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE  (4.0)\n ======================\n\n      You wouldn't drive your car 100,000 miles without giving it a\n  tune-up.  A computer is no different.  Regular tune-ups avoid a lot\n  of problems.  Although there are Mac mechanics who'll be happy to\n  charge you $75 or more for the equivalent of an oil change, there's\n  no reason you can't change it yourself.  The following nine-step\n  program should be performed about every three months. \n\n\n TRASH UNNEEDED FILES  (4.1)\n\n      Many of the operations that follow will run faster and more\n  smoothly the more free disk space there is to work with so spend a\n  little time cleaning up your hard disk.  If you're at all like me,\n  you'll find several megabytes worth of preferences files for\n  applications you no longer have, archives of software you've\n  dearchived, shareware you tried out and didn't like, announcements\n  for events that have come and gone and many other files you no\n  longer need.  If you're running System 7 you may also have several\n  more megabytes in your trash can alone.  Throw them away and empty \n  the trash.\n\n\n RETHINK YOUR EXTENSIONS  (4.2)\n\n      Some Macintoshes attract inits like a new suit attracts rain. \n  Seriously consider whether you actually need every extension \n  in your collection.  If you don't use the functionality of an\n  extension at least every fifth time you boot up, you're probably\n  better off not storing it in your System Folder where it only takes\n  up memory, destabilizes your system, and slows down every startup. \n  For instance if you only read PC disks once a month, there's no\n  need to keep AccessPC loaded all the time.  Cutting back on your\n  extension habit can really help avoid crashes. \n\n\n REBUILD THE DESKTOP  (4.3)\n\n      The Desktop file\/database holds all the information necessary\n  to associate each file with the application that created it.  It\n  lets the system know what application should be launched when you\n  open a given file and what icons it should display where. \n  Depending on its size each application has one or more\n  representatives in the desktop file.  As applications and files\n  move on and off your hard disk, the Desktop file can be become\n  bloated and corrupt.  Think of it as a Congress for your Mac. \n  Every so often it's necessary to throw the bums out and start with\n  a clean slate.  Fortunately it's easier to rebuild the desktop than\n  to defeat an incumbent. \n  \n         One warning: rebuilding the desktop will erase all comments\n  you've stored in the Get Info boxes.  Under System 7 Maurice\n  Volaski's freeware init CommentKeeper will retain those comments\n  across a rebuild.  CommentKeeper also works with System 6 but only \n  if Apple's Desktop Manager extension is also installed. \n  \n         To rebuild the desktop restart your Mac and, as your\n  extensions finish loading, depress the Command and Option keys. \n  You'll be presented with a dialog box asking if you want to rebuild\n  the desktop and warning you that \"This could take a few minutes.\" \n  Click OK. It will take more than a few minutes. The more files you\n  have the longer it will take.  If you're running System 6 you may\n  want to turn off MultiFinder before trying to rebuild the desktop.\n   \n          If you're experiencing definite problems and not just doing\n  preventive maintenance, you may want to use Fifth Generation's\n  freeware init Desktop Reset.  Desktop Reset completely deletes the\n  Desktop file before rebuilding it, thus eliminating possibly\n  corrupt data structures.    \n\n\n ZAP THE PRAM AND RESET THE CLOCK  (4.4)\n\n      All Macs from the original 128K Thin Mac to the Quadra 950\n  contain a small amount of battery powered RAM to hold certain\n  settings that properly move with the CPU rather than with the disk\n  such as which disk to boot from.  Unfortunately this \"parameter\n  RAM\" can become corrupted and cause unexplained crashes.  To reset\n  it under System 7 hold down the Command, Option, P, and R keys\n  while restarting your Mac.  Under System 6 hold down the Command,\n  Option, and Shift keys while selecting the Control Panel from the\n  Apple menu. Click Yes when asked if you want to zap the parameter\n  RAM.  Since you've erased almost all the settings in the General\n  Control Panel, you should now reset them to whatever you want.\n   \n         The one setting that zapping the PRAM does not erase is the \n  date and time; but since the internal clock in the Macintosh is\n  notoriously inaccurate you'll probably want to take this\n  opportunity to reset it anyway.\n\n\n RESIZE THE SYSTEM HEAP  (4.5) \n\n      Even after rethinking their extensions as per step two most\n  people still have at least half a row of icons march across the\n  bottom of their screen every time they restart.  All these\n  extensions (and most applications too) need space in a section of\n  memory called the System Heap.  If the System Heap isn't big enough\n  to comfortably accommodate all the programs that want a piece of\n  it, they all start playing King of the Mountain on the system heap,\n  knocking each other off to get bigger pieces for themselves and\n  trying to climb back on after they get knocked off.  All this\n  fighting amongst the programs severely degrades system performance\n  and almost inevitably crashes the Mac.\n  \n         If you're using System 7, your Macintosh will automatically\n  resize the system heap as necessary; but if you're running System 6\n  it's important to set your system heap size large enough to manage\n  all your extensions and applications.  By default this size is set\n  to 128K, way too small for most Macs with any extensions at all. \n  The system heap size is stored in the normally non-editable boot\n  blocks of every system disk.  Bill Steinberg's freeware utility\n  BootMan not only lets you resize your system heap but even checks\n  how much memory your heap is already using so it can tell how much\n  needs to be allocated.  If you're running System 6, get BootMan,\n  use it, and be amazed at how infrequently your Macintosh crashes.\n\n\n REINSTALL THE SYSTEM SOFTWARE  (4.6)\n\n      System files can become corrupt and fragmented, especially if\n  you've stored lots of fonts and desk accessories inside them. \n  Merely updating the System software will often not fix system file\n  corruption.  I recommend doing a clean reinstall.  Here's how:\n\n    1.  Boot from the installer floppy of your System disks.  \n    2.  Copy any non-standard fonts and desk accessories out \n        of your System file into a temporary suitcase.\n    3.  Trash the System file on your hard disk.  Also trash the \n        Finder, MultiFinder, DA Handler, and all other standard Apple \n        extensions like Control Panel and Chooser.  These will all be \n        replaced in the new installation.  If you're running or \n        installing System 7, move everything in the Extensions, \n        Control Panels, and Preferences folders into the top level \n        of the System Folder.\n    4.  Rename the System Folder.  Any name other than System Folder \n        is  fine.\n    5.  Double-click the installer script on your System disk.  Then \n        choose Customize...  Select the appropriate software for your \n        model Mac and printer.  You could do an Easy Install instead, \n        but that will only add a lot of extensions and code you don't \n        need that waste your memory and disk space.\n    6.  Once installation is finished, move everything from the \n        temporary folder you created in step 4 into the new System \n        folder.  If you're asked if you want to replace anything, you \n        forgot to take something out in step 3.  You'll need to replace \n        things individually until you find the duplicate piece. \n    7.  Reinstall any fonts or DA's you removed in step 2.\n    8.  Reboot.  You should now have a clean, defragmented System file \n        that takes up less memory and disk space and a much more stable \n        system overall.\n\n\n     DISK UTILITIES  (4.7)\n\n      Much like system files hard disks have data structures that\n  occasionally become corrupted affecting performance and even\n  causing data loss.  Apple includes Disk First Aid, a simple utility\n  for detecting and repairing hard disk problems, with its System\n  disks. It's also available for anonymous ftp from ftp.apple.com in\n  the  directory dts\/mac\/sys.soft\/hdsc.  Even if you have an earlier \n  version, you should get the latest version (7.1) from ftp.apple.com\n  and run it on all your hard disks.\n     \n         Several companies have released payware disk utilities that\n  detect and repair considerably more problems than Disk First Aid\n  though, interestingly, none of them detect and repair everything\n  that Disk First Aid does.  The three most effective for general\n  work are Central Point's MacTools Deluxe 2.0, Fifth Generation's\n  Public Utilites, and Symantec's Norton Utilities for the Macintosh\n  2.0.  A department or work group should have all of these as well\n  as Disk First Aid since none of them fix everything the others do. \n  For individuals MacTools ($48 street) is about half the price of\n  Norton ($94 street) or Public Utilities ($98 street) so, features\n  and ease of use being roughly equal, I recommend MacTools.\n   \n         All of these products occasionally encounter problems they\n  can't fix.  When that happens it's time to backup (4.7) and\n  reformat (4.9).\n\n\n     BACKING UP  (4.8)\n\n      This is one part of preventative maintenance that should be\n  done a LOT more often than every three months.  The simplest back\n  up is to merely copy all the files on your hard disk onto floppies\n  or other removable media.  If you keep your data files separate\n  from your application and support files then it's easy to only back\n  up those folders which change frequently.  Nonetheless every three\n  months you  should do a complete backup of your hard disk. \n  \n         A number of programs are available to make backing up\n  easier.  Apple included a very basic full backup application with\n  System 6.  With the Performas Apple ships a new Apple Backup\n  utility that can backup the entire disk or just the System folder\n  onto floppies.  The previously mentioned Norton Utilities for the\n  Mac and MacTools Deluxe 2.0 include more powerful floppy backup\n  utilities that incorporate compression and incremental backups.\n  \n         Finally if you're lucky enough to have a Tape Drive, network\n  server, or removable media device to use for backups, you should\n  check out the more powerful payware utilities Redux ($49 street,\n  doesn't support tape drives) and Diskfit Pro ($74 street).  There\n  are NO freely available backup utilities other than the old HD\n  Backup from System 6.  \n\n\n DISK DEFRAGMENTATION  (4.9)\n\n      As disks fill up it gets harder and harder to find enough free\n  space in the same place to write large files.  Therefore the\n  operating system will often split larger files into pieces to be\n  stored in different places on your hard disk.  As files become more\n  and more fragmented performance can degrade.  There are several\n  ways to defragment a hard disk.\n  \n         The most tedious but cheapest method is to backup all your\n  files, erase the hard disk (and you might as well reformat while\n  you're at it.  See question 4.10.), and restore all the files.\n   \n         A number of payware utilities including Norton Utilities for\n  the Mac and Mac Tools Deluxe can defragment a disk in place, i.e.\n  without erasing it.  Although the ads for all these products brag\n  about their safety, once you've bought the software and opened the\n  shrink-wrap they all warn you to back up your disk before\n  defragmenting it in case something does go wrong.  There are NO\n  freeware or shareware disk defragmenters so please don't annoy the\n  net by asking for one. \n\n\n REFORMAT YOUR HARD DISK  (4.10)\n\n      Just as a floppy disk needs to be initialized before use, so a\n  hard disk must be formatted before it can hold data.  You don't\n  need to reformat every three months; but when your system is\n  crashing no matter what you try, reformatting is the ultimate means\n  of wiping the slate clean.  Reformatting your hard disk may even\n  gain you a few extra megabytes of space.  Not all hard disks are\n  created equal.  Some can hold more data than others.  To facilitate\n  mass production and advertising without a lot of asterisks (* 81.3\n  megabytes is the average formatted capacity.  Your mileage may\n  vary.)  Apple often formats drives to the lowest common denominator\n  of drive capacity.  When you reformat there's no reason at all not\n  to reclaim whatever unused space Apple's left on your disk.\n     \n         Unlike floppies hard disks need a special program to\n  initialize them. Most hard disks come with formatting software. \n  Apple's disks and System software ship with HD SC setup, a minimal\n  disk formatter which will format Apple brand hard drives ONLY. \n  Most other manufacturers ship appropriate formatting software with\n  their hard drives.  Normally this will be all you need to reformat\n  your hard disk.\n  \n         A number of general-purpose formatters are also available\n  which go beyond the bundled software to include features like\n  encryption, password protection, multiple partitioning, faster disk\n  access, System 7 compatibility, and even compression.  Two of the\n  best are the payware Drive7 and Hard Disk Toolkit Personal Edition\n  ($49 street for either).  While there are one or two freeware\n  formatters available, none are likely to be superior to the ones\n  bundled with your hard disk. \n  \n         PowerBook users should be sure to turn off Sleep and\n  processor cycling before reformatting their hard drives no matter\n  what software they use.  Otherwise disk corruption, crashes, and\n  data losses are a very good possibility.\n  \n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"RE: Midwest Micro,\n\n\n\nArticle #61200 (61302 is last):\nFrom: wilson@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Bob Wilson)\nSubject: Re: *** CONSUMER WARNING ***  MidWest Micro (Ohio)\nDate: Thu Apr 22 15:12:28 1993\n\nI posted almost the same bad experience with  Midwest Micro but our\n%^*^&*^&* news program only sent one paragraph out of the middle. In\naddition to the facts that:\n(a) the modems (I had ordered two) wouldn't work as documented\nand\n(b) the tech person had NO CLUE as to how it should work,\nit also turned out that:\n(c) one of the two modems they sent was clearly USED but the techs\nthought that was standard practice and\n(d) the modems made all three of my floppy drives quit working and\nmy CMS250 tape drive start running away.\n\nThat they are incompetent is one thing, but that they sell used stuff\nas new and won't even apologize for it is another. Stay away from\nthese crooks!\n\nBob Wilson\nShown 97%, press <SPACE> for more, 'q' to quit, or 'h' for help\n                                                                                \nwilson@math.wisc.edu\nEnd of File, Press RETURN to quit\n\nBob,\nI have walked into Micro Center here in the Cleveland area and bought\na new track ball and picked the only one that was sealed in plastic\nrap. Only to get it home and oped it up to find a good year old USED\ndirty old track ball with a warranty card for some software package.\n\nI would never even think of installing anything that looked like\nit was used at all. You should of called Medwest Micro\nand made them do a PUS PULL TAG on it. They would of picked it up\nand sent you out a ner one the same day. \nThings get better in knowing how to but equipment after the FIRST try!","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\tThis happens when your X server has run out of memory. You need\nmore memory or you need to quit any un-neccessary running clients.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\tBut hanging is certainly painful. Or, do you not let the condemned \nknow they are going to die?\n\n\n\n\tHanging is not supposed to be very pleasant. I believe that in \nactuality, it is not \"quick and clean\". However, gas chambers can be\nquite non-painful. Heck, why not give them a good time? Suffication by\nNitrious Oxide!\n\n\t=)\n\n\n---\n\nPrivate note to Jennifer Fakult.\n\n        \"This post may contain one or more of the following:\n         sarcasm, cycnicism, irony, or humor. Please be aware \n         of this possibility and do not allow yourself to be \n         confused and\/or thrown for a loop. If in doubt, assume\n         all of the above.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n    I have a few 12\" composite monochrome monitors for sale.  Magnovax Computer\nMonitor 80, Model number BM7650 074B.  RCA type input for video only. (no\naudio).  Power, Brightness and Contrast dials in front, V and H hold and\nposition controls on the back. Nice little monitor that can be used for \nPCs, Amigas, your VCR, security monitor.  Excellent condition. I am asking\nfor $40 plus shipping and COD (not to exceed $10) if applicable. \n \n\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"In <EGGERTJ.93May9230207@moses.ll.mit.edu> eggertj@moses.ll.mit.edu\n\n\nWhen I was in Jerusalem a couple of years ago, our guide told\nus the story of that mosque - not sure if it was true.\n\nApparently, it was built by a Jewish convert to Islam.  He had\nhad a dispute with his neighbours, and built the mosque \"davka\" to\nannoy them.  It's a cute story, but not sure if it's true...\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"OK, with all the discussion about observed playback speeds with QuickTime,\nthe effects of scaling and so on, I thought I'd do some more tests.\n\nFirst of all, I felt that my original speed test was perhaps less than\nrealistic. The movie I had been using only had 18 frames in it (it was a\nversion of the very first movie I created with the Compact Video compressor).\nI decided something a little longer would give closer to real-world results\n(for better or for worse).\n\nI pulled out a copy of \"2001: A Space Odyssey\" that I had recorded off TV\na while back. About fifteen minutes into the movie, there's a sequence where\nthe Earth shuttle is approaching the space station. Specifically, I digitized\na portion of about 30 seconds' duration, zooming in on the rotating space\nstation. I figured this would give a reasonable amount of movement between\nframes. To increase the differences between frames, I digitized it at only\n5 frames per second, to give a total of 171 frames.\n\nI captured the raw footage at a resolution of 384*288 pixels with the Spigot\ncard in my Centris 650 (quarter-size resolution from a PAL source). I then\nimported it into Premiere and put it through the Compact Video compressor,\nkeeping the 5 fps frame rate. I created two versions of the movie: one scaled\nto 320*240 resolution, the other at 160*120 resolution. I used the default\n\"2.00\" quality setting in Premiere 2.0.1, and specified a key frame every ten\nframes.\n\nI then ran the 320*240 movie through the same \"Raw Speed Test\" program I used\nfor the results I'd been reporting earlier.\n\nResult: a playback rate of over 45 frames per second.\n\nThat's right, I was getting a much higher result than with that first short\ntest movie. Just for fun, I copied the 320*240 movie to my external hard\ndisk (a Quantum LP105S), and ran it from there. This time the playback rate\nwas only about 35 frames per second. Obviously the 230MB internal hard disk\n(also a Quantum) is a significant contributor to the speed of playback.\n\nI modified my speed test program to allow the specification of optional\nscaling factors, and tried playing back the 160*120 movie scaled to 320*240\nsize. This time the playback speed was over 60 fps. Clearly, the poster who\nobserved poor performance on scaled playback was seeing QuickTime 1.0 in\naction, not 1.5. I'd try my tests with QuickTime 1.0, but I don't think it's\nentirely compatible with my Centris and System 7.1...\n\nUnscaled, the playback rate for the 160*120 movie was over 100 fps.\n\nThe other thing I tried was saving versions of the 320*240 movie with\n\"preferred\" playback rates greater than 1.0, and seeing how well they played\nfrom within MoviePlayer (ie with QuickTime's normal synchronized playback).\nA preferred rate of 9.0 (=> 45 fps) didn't work too well: the playback was\nvery jerky. Compare this with the raw speed test, which achieved 45 fps with\nease. I can't believe that QuickTime's synchronization code would add this\nmuch overhead: I think the slowdown was coming from the Mac system's task\nswitching.\n\nA preferred rate of 7.0 (=> 35 fps) seemed to work fine: I couldn't see\nany evidence of stutter. At 8.0 (=> 40 fps) I *think* I could see slight\nstutter, but with four key frames every second, it was hard to tell.\n\nI guess I could try recreating the movies with a longer interval between the\nkey frames, to make the stutter more noticeable. Of course, this will also\nimprove the compression slightly, which should speed up the playback performance\neven more...","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nBowman is in the Hockey Hall of Fame as a coach already...and unlike\nGil Stein...he didn't get their by stacking the Board of Directors! -)\n\n\nBowman is the genius...Johnson isn't.  Bowman is a great coach...Johnson,\na very good one.  However, Bowman is really not a modern coach, and\nPatrick's solution of having him only run the team on game days, and\ndelegate most of the day-to-day responsibity to the assistants is\na shrewd managerial decision on Patrick's part.  ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n       The Associated Press had an article on Monday March 1, I believe,\nwhich quoted witnesses as describing BATF agents throwing grenades prior\nto any gunfire on the part of the Davidians.\n\n       It was among the first of a crop of different, mutually exclusive\ndescriptions.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I have the following Snes Games forsale.  The ones with * have instructions and the other ones have no instructions.\n\n*Romance of the Three Kingdoms II    $25\n*Populous\t\t\t     $15\nLegend of Zelda\n\tA link to the past \t      $10\nSoul Blazer\t\t\t     $10\n\n\tPlease reply by e-mail to jth@bach.udel.edu.\n\n\tI ask for $3 for S&H for one game, if you buy more than one I still only need $3.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n[detailed explanation deleted..]\n\n\nIndeed, you have struck right at the heart of our disagreement. To \nrebut my opinion, you have made an analogy with a game of chance.\nYour hypothesis assumes that the Lotto players have no impact on\nthe selection of the numbers, and hence their ability to win.\n\nWell, that's certainly true in Lotto.  But it has absolutely\nNOTHING to do with the sport of baseball.  When you start down\nthe wrong path, you finish down the wrong path.\n\n\n\n\n\nI repeat.  I do not think that statistical analysis of prior clutch\nhitting performance is an accurate predictor of future clutch hitting\nperformance.\n\nI do, however, think that analysis of prior clutch hitting performance\nmay, for some players, indicate a deficiency in their game that indeed\nwill provide a basis for projecting their particular future performance.\nAnd I think Chris Sabo is such a player.\n\n\n\n\n--\tThe Beastmaster\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Oh come on, Josh!\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\/Yes, a lot of what OS\/2 2.0 has in common with OS\/2 1.x was written by you\n\/guys. However, many of the things that made OS\/2 2.0 so much more successful\n\/(Win-OS\/2, Workplace Shell) than previous versions were IBM work.\n\nYes, certainly.  It was IBM that wrote the Windows code!!!","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"The MOTIF application consists of multiple Transient shells as children \nof a single TopLevel shell:\n\n+-----------+   +---------------+   +----------------+\n+-----------+   +---------------+ | +----------------+\n                                  |\n                                  | +----------------+\n                                  |-| TransientShell |\n                                  | +----------------+\n                                  |\n\nWhile a Transient shell is popped-up, my application modifies the \nsensitivity of a button in the TopLevel shell which is hidden by the \nTransient shell window.  When the Transient shell is popped-down, the \nbutton sensitivity is correct but the button text remains unchanged \n(i.e., solid\/shaded).  Subsequent selection of the button causes the \ntext to revert to the correct visual state.\n\nWhen tracing event messages sent to the application, many of the events \nseen under mwm are not present under OpenWindows.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be\nmy witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the\nearth.\" \nActs 1:8\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"You can try SGS L6217A, it can achieve 256 current level(microstep),\nteere is a circuit in the SGS-THOMSON - \" Smart Power Applicatio\nManual\", order code for the manual is AMSMARTPOWERST\/1\n\nBest regards,","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"It's a toll for insurance companies and auto dealers to rip you\noff in case of accident or trade-in.\n\nCharlie Ellis\nchellis@nyx.cs.du.edu","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nI don't see this as a problem with the chip-set (a mistake), I see this\nas something that was designed-in intentionally.\n\nSo it would seem that to enhance the design (from 24 to 32-bit EISA DMA)\nwould require an update to the chipset.  An update to the chipset may \nbegat an update to the motherboard board design.\n\nWhat I'm saing is:  The motherboard manufacturer seems to be passing this\noff as a simple fix.  In my mind the fix is a updated chipset from HINT \nalong with a possible motherboard layout update.  This is not simple.\nIf I were you I would be cautious about this.\n\nYou might look into the Advanced Integration Research (AIR) VL\/EISA\nmotherboard.  All slots are EISA\/ISA capable.  2 (or 3) of the slots are\nVL-bus capable.  The AIR people confirmed this board supports 'real'\n32-bit EISA DMA (I called them).  Pentium\/P5 (?) capable.  Less expensive\nthan equivalent AMI or Micronics VL\/EISA board.\n\nLook in Computer Shopper (April '93).  The ZENON ads show the AIR mother-\nboard.  A associate bought the AIR board and is pleased with it.  I'm\nattempting to get the local dealer to trade out the HAWK board for the\nAIR board.\n\nModel number of AIR board (with 486-33DX) is B433EI2.  You can call\nMotherboard Warehouse (for example) for a price.  Phone #'s included\nbelow.\n\nAIR                    (408)-428-0800\nMotherboard Warehouse  (800)-486-9975\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Help,\n\n\tI've got an applications with a series of pushbuttons across\n\tthe top (a toolbar).  I wanted to add eventhandlers to these\n\tpushbuttons on EnterWindowMask and LeaveWindowMask so that\n\tI can put up some descriptive text about the function of each\n\tpushbutton as the pointer crosses over it.\n\n\tI've done this fine, but I've turned up the following problem:\n\n\tWhen the pushbuttons are sensitive I get callbacks on both of\n\tthe above events, but when they are not sensitive I only get\n\tcallbacks on LeaveWindow events.  This seems odd.  I would\n\texpect this to be an all-or-nothing type of thing.\n\n\tIs this a bug?  If not, can someone explain this behavior?\n\n\tthanks,","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"this is a repost... I like to find out more about this also...\n\n*** Message Part 2: Text ****************************************\nThe COSE announcement specifies that Motif will become the common\nGUI. But what does this mean exactly?\n \n- Do they mean that all \"COSE-complient\" apps will have the Motif\n  look and feel?\n \n- Do they mean that all \"COSE-complient\" apps will use the Motif\n  toolkit API?\n \n- Do they mean both of the above?\n \n- Is it possible that there will be a Motif-API complient toolkit with\n  an OpenLook Look & Feel?\n \n- How about an OLIT\/XView\/OI\/Interviews API toolkit with a Motif L & F?\n  (I know OI already does this, but will this be considered COSE-complient?)\n \n- Will there be more than one \"standard\" toolkit API or L & F supported?\n \n- How does using ToolTalk fit in with Motif?\n \nThis is my attempt to start a discussion in order to pull as much\nknowledge about these questions off the net... Feel free to e-mail\nor followup.\n \n--\n--------------------------------------------------------------------\n-- Gil Tene \"Some days it just doesn't pay     -\n-- devil@imp.HellNet.org    to go to sleep in the morning.\" -\n-- devil@diablery.10A.com     -","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"[synopsis] Young man with inguianl hernia on one side, repaired, now has\nnew hernia on other side.  What gives, he asks?  [and he continues...] \n\nThere is the possibility that there is some degree of constipation causing\nchronic straining which has caused the bowel movements.  The classic \nproblems that are supposed to be looked for in someone with a hernia are\nconstipation, chronic cough, colon cancer (and you're not too young for\nthat) and sitting for long periods of time at the computer, reading news.\n\nGood Luck with your surgery!","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nI ran into this about six months ago.  My system is a GW2000 486DX\/66V,\n8 megs RAM, 1Meg ATI GUP VLB. It seems the problem is that the ATI\nGraphics Ultra Pro card consumes the COM4 port for some reason, so only\nCOM1-3 are available.  I believe this is documented somewhere in the\nsystem manuals, but I can't recall where.\n ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"es:\n\nxv 3.0 (shareware) supports 24-bit displays, and has lots of other\nimprovements over earlier versions.  Definitely worth checking out\n(also at export)\n\nJean.\n-- \nJean Liddle                                 \nComputer Science, Illinois State University  \ne-mail:  jliddle@ilstu.edu                  ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nI assumed he was referring to OS\/2's 32-bit flat model addressing while DOS\n(and therefore Windows) use 20-bit segmented addressing.  As a programmer, I\nagree that segmentation unnecessarily complicates things.  It's annoying, too.\nBut when just a Windows user, I don't think about it much.  And, I doubt many\nother people think about it (or even care) when just writing a document,\ncalcing a spreadsheet, etc...It works and they get their work done.\n\nJust a neutral comment:\nIt's funny, I think, how arguments about Windows vs OS\/2 sound so very\nsimilar to arguments about Atheism vs Christianity or something like that.\nIt's somehow very personal to people.  Convictions are irrational and\nthere's nothing wrong with that--it's just...interesting.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"   >> conference calls?\n   >It's not Clipper, it's any encryption system.  I've seen a number of\n   >designs; they generally involve a multi-line cleartext bridge.\n\n\t   A 'multi-line cleartext bridge?\"\n\t\t\t ^^^^^^^^^\n\t   And just were would you put that bridge?  If it isn't at one of\n   the receiptants location, forget encryption at all.  You have blown any\n   security you thought you might have had. \n\nMost of the people using encrypted conference bridges these days are\nmilitary (or equivalent, like CIA and other embassy personnel),\nso putting bridges on the recipient's location is normal -\nit's in a vault on a military base or Ft. Meade, and the\nsecure phones are in sound-proof rooms with big locks on the doors\nbecause they're talking about Classified Stuff (or Golf with Other Generals.)\n\nThat paradigm will change as we start using encrypted phones in our\noffices or homes to carry on normal conversations about dinner plans\nand stock purchases and meeting schedules and technical info\nand the good batch of illegal frop that we got last weekend from Bob;\nmost people don't use sound-proof vaults, and may use bridges in their\nPBX or from the local phone company (3-way calls) or Long Distance\nor value-added phone company (e.g. Alliance conference bridges).\n\nIf Clipjack is mainly used for the radio portion of cellular phones,\nthe conferencing aspects don't change.  But there may be a market niche for\ntrusted conference-bridge providers, though I suppose the inquisitors\nwould try to get a blanket wiretap authorization for many bridges,\njust in case a Bad Guy might use the service.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"[material deleted] \n[deletions]\n\n\nI don't necessarily object to the secrecy but I do question it, since I see no \nBiblical reason why any aspect of Christian worship should involve secrecy.  \nBut I am interested in your claim that early Christian practices \"parallel\" \nMormon temple ceremonies.  Could you give an example?  Also, why do they only \nparallel Mormon ceremonies?  Why don't Mormon ceremonies restore the original \nChristian practices?  Wasn't that the whole point of Joseph Smith's stated \nmission?","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"-| I am taking a course entitled \"Exploring Science Using Internet\".\n-| For our final project, we are to find a compendium of Internet resources \n-| dealing with a science-related topic. I chose Astronomy. Anyway, I was \n-| wondering if anyone out there knew of any interesting resources on Internet\n-| that provide information on Astronomy, space, NASA, or anything like that.\n-| \n-| THANKS!\n-| \n-|   KEITH MALINOWSKI\n-|   STK1203@VAX003.Stockton.EDU\n-|   P.O. Box 2472\n-|   Stockton State College\n-|   Pomona, New Jersey 08240\n\nTry doing a keyword search under Gopher using Veronica or accessing a \nWorld Wide Web server. Also finger yanoff@csd4.csd.uwm.edu for a list\nof Internet resources which includes 2-3 sites with Space-specific \ninformation. I am sure Ron Baalke will have told you about what is\navailable at JPL etc..\n\n\tbest regards\n\t\tAta <(|)>.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n... in response to which ...\n\n[ ... ]\n\n... and ...\n\n[ ... ]\n\n... and ...\n\n[ ... ]\n\n\nHey, guys.  You're absolutely correct, and well on the way to winning\nthis battle ... and losing the war.  Yes, there are serious philosophical\nflaws in HR 1276.  Technical ones, too -- how'd you like to sue the Feds,\nlose, and have to pay _their_ \"reasonable Attorney's fee\" ... ?    :-)\n\nStill, I have one basic question:  compared to what we've _got_ is HR 1276\n(a) better, or (b) worse?  This one shouldn't even take you three guesses.\n\nIf there's a good enough show of support for HR 1276, maybe for a change\n_we_ could be the ones saying \"it's a reasonable first step\" ...","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I feel compelled to complain: the statement that recent observations\nrule out merging neutron stars as sources of gamma-ray bursts is\nutterly false, even though it is popular enough to make it to\nBATSE press releases.\nThe idea behind the statement is as follows: \n     \"if you smack two neutron\n      stars together, or have a neutron star be gobbled up by a black hole,\n      a lot of energy is released, enough for a gamma-ray burst at a\n      cosmological distance. But, so the reasoning continues, this energy \n      is released below a lot of matter, so the radiation becomes\n      thermalized and you expect to see roughly a blackbody spectrum.\n      The observed spectra are strongly non-thermal, so this model must\n      be wrong.\"\nAs so often, the fault lies with the imagination of the person who\nwas trying to prove the model wrong rather than with the model. It\nmay be that the initial energy release is not seen as a gamma-ray\nburst, but the 'fireball' of energy and matter that is created\nmay spew out a relativistic flow. When this slams into the surrounding \nmedium, a strong flux of non-thermal gamma rays results, which may\ncarry off a substantial fraction of the initial total energy. All\nthis is not my idea: it is in a series of papers by Martin Rees,\nPeter Meszaros (sorry for the missing accents:-) and co-workers.\nIt is certainly not a complete model, but it may well be the best one\naround (summing over all proposed distance scales). An alternative\nproposal for what creates the initial fireball, by the way, is the \nso-called 'failed supernovae' scenario by Stan Woosley, in which\na very massive star at the end of its life collapses to a black\nhole. If the stellar core was rotating, part of the infalling matter\nwill be temporarily halted because it is supported by centrifugal\nforce, and form a very dense neutron torus that accretes onto the\nblack hole. This beast may spew out a jet along the rotation axis,\nwhich again constitutes relativistic flow. The rate of such\nevents may be much higher than that of neutron star mergers,\nbut the flux may be more strongly beamed, so that the net rate\nof bursts observed on Earth stays the same between the two\nscenarios, but the energy released per event can be a lot less\nin the failed supernova scenario.\n\nOn another note: I do believe that the distance scale must \nultimately be resolved via some classical astronomical method\nsuch as finding counterparts to the bursts at other wavelengths,\nor finding a definitive signature of some known class of\nobjects in the distribution of positions and fluxes. Theorists\nhave historically not been too successfull in finding the\ndistance of any object by proving that there is only one\npossible way in which the object can work, and therefore\nit *must* be so-and-so.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Here is a press release from the American Federation of State, \nCounty and Municipal Employees.\n\n Unions Point To Deadly Workplaces; AFSCME, Other Unions\nCommemorate Workers Memorial Day\n To: National Desk, Labor Writer\n Contact: Janet Rivera of the American Federation of State, County\nand Municipal Employees, AFL-CIO, 202-429-1130\n\n   WASHINGTON, April 23 -- The American Federation of State, \nCounty and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) and other unions\nof the AFL-CIO on Wednesday, April 28, will commemorate the fifth\nannual Workers Memorial Day -- a day to pay homage to the 6\nmillion workers who are killed, injured, or diseased on the job.\n   This year, AFSCME will focus its Workers Memorial Day efforts an\nthe dangerous environment in which corrections officers must work.\nEarlier this month, an AFSCME corrections officer, Robert\nVallandingham, was killed by inmates who overtook the corrections\nfacility in Lucasville, Ohio.\n   The law and order agenda of the 1980s has resulted in a steady\nincrease in the prison population for the past five years.  On\nJn. 1, 1992, the prison population was 709,587. Projections\nshow a continued increase in the number of inmates, with an\nexpected prison population of 811,253 in 1994.\n   The conditions which this burgeoning prison population has\ncreated for corrections officers is partially reflected in the\nnumber of assaults by inmates against staff.  Assaults against\nstaff increased dramatically between 1987 and 1989, and remain\nhigh.  In 1987, there were 808 assaults by inmates against staff,\ncompared to 9,961 such assaults in 1991.\n   The increased number of inmates has brought on the dangerous\ncombination of overcrowding and understaffing.  For example in Ohio\nofficer-to-inmate ratio is 1 to 8.4 -- the second worst ratio in\nthe nation. The national average is 1 to 5.3.  Other health and\nsafety issues facing corrections officers include AIDS, Hepatitis\nB, tuberculosis, stress, and chemical hazards.\n   AFSCME has more than 50,000 members who work in the nation's\nfederal, state and local correctional facilities.\n   Correction officers are not alone in performing their jobs under\nlife-threatening conditions.  Every year, 10,000 American workers\ndie from job-related injuries, and tens of thousands more die from\noccupational disease.  Public employees do some of the nation's\nmost dangerous jobs. Perilous occupations include:\n\n   -- Highway Workers - Highway workers are often injured and\n      frequently killed by moving traffic because work zones are\n      not barricaded or don't have proper lighting.\n   -- Health Care Workers - Hospitals have the highest number of\n      job-related injuries and illnesses of any private sector\n      employer and nursing homes ranked fifth.  There were more\n      than 325,000 job-related illnesses and injuries in private\n      sector hospitals in 1991, up almost 10 percent over the\n      previous year.  It is generally believed that health care\n      workers employed at public sector hospitals and nursing homes\n      have a significantly higher rate of injuries and illnesses\n      than do their private sector counterparts.  Health and safety\n      issues facing health care workers include exposure to\n      tuberculosis and the HIV virus, back injuries, and high\n      levels of stress.\n   -- Social Workers - Social workers who work in mental health\n      institutions are often the victims of assaults and,\n      sometimes, fatal attacks.  For instance, last October, a man\n      carrying a semiautomatic handgun walked into the Schuyler\n      County Social Services Building in Watkins Glenn, N.Y.\n      and fatally shot social services workers, before turning the\n      gun on himself.  There are two basic problems.  First is a\n      growing lack of support services for people who don't have\n      the help they need.  Because workers are overworked, some\n      clients are not given the adequate amount of counselling.\n      Such conditions may cause clients to become more frustrated.\n      The \"quality\" of the clients is also becoming more violent,\n      as more are moved out of the institutions.\n\n   Nearly 2 million workers have been killed by workplace hazards\nsince OSHA was passed.  Moreover, as AFSCME President Gerald W.\nMcEntee explains, OSHA does not provide workplace safety\nprotections for public employees.\n   \"More than 1,600 public employees are killed each year on the\njob, yet 27 states still provide no federally-approved OSHA\ncoverage for public employees,\" said McEntee.  \"This, despite the\nfact that public employees -- highway workers, health care workers,\ncorrections officers, to name but a few -- do some of the most\ndangerous work in our society.  This year we are fighting for\npassage of OSHA reform legislation to give all workers greater\nrights and protections, and finally guarantee all public employees\nsafe workplaces.  We need the public support to be successful.\"\n   Government workers suffer 25 percent more injuries than private\nsector workers, and these injuries are almost 75 percent more\nsevere.\n   Public employees were exempted from OSHA when the law was passed\nin 1970 and today, public employees in more than half the states\nhave no OSHA coverage.\n -30-","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nThis was a popular belief in the Judaism of Jesus` time, that Elijah\nwould return again (as he had been taken in to heaven in a chariot and\ndid not actually die).  However Jesus was referring to John the\nBaptist not in the sense that Elijah was reincarnated as John\n(remember Elijah didn`t die) but that John was a similar prophet to\nElijah.  John was a fiery preacher, he wore sackcloth and wandered\nrough through Israel preaching the coming kingdom.  The verses that\ndescribe him (in Mark`s gospel) can be linked to OT references about\nElijah.  Hence John was similar to Elijah and Jesus was drawing the\nparallels between the two just as he drew parallels with the Suffering\nServant in Isaiah (and other messianic figures) and himself.\n\nA brief reply but I don`t have time to look up all the relevant stuff.\n\nSuffice to say there is a very strong explanation.\n\n\n\nRick.\n\n________________________________________________________________\n\nRichard Johnston                             Queen`s University\n73 Malone Road                               Belfast\nBelfast                                 \nNorthern Ireland                          \nBT9 6SB                                   ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Please note that my above comment was not intended as a flame of Ken's\ncall for Congressional leadership to conduct a proper investigation.\nIt was merely to call attention to the hazard of having Specter involved.\nIf anyone took it that way, I apologize.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Hi,\nI am looking an integrated circuits for my Z80-based \ncomputer.\nThe circuit is called Z80-STI (Serial Timer Interrupt), \nMK3801, and\nmade by Mostek. Mostek is called SGS Thompson today.\n \nI have been in contact with SGS Thompson, unfortunately \nthey me told that Z80-STI is obsolete.\n \nSo, my question is if anyone know if I can get hold of that \ncircuits. Are there any companies that specialize in selling \ncircuits that are no longer in production? I have contacted \nseveral electronic brokers in\nSweden, but without any success. I would appreciate if you \ncould give me hint where I should continue looking. Even \ncompanies in the United States would be fine, since this \ncircuit is pretty crucial to me.\n \n \nThanks in advance.\n ","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"The following is based on copies I was given of some articles published in\nHearing Instruments. I would appreciate any comments about this and other\n'new' technology for hearing aids.\n\nThe ReSound system was developed on the basis of some research at AT&T and\nappears to take a different approach from other aids. It appears to me that\na new 'programmable' aid like the Widex just uses a more flexible (and\nprogrammable) version of the classical approach of amplifying some parts of\nthe spectrum more than others and adding some compression to try and help\nout in 'noisy' situations.\n\nThe major difference in the ReSound approach is that it divides the\nspectrum into low and high frequencies (splitting point is programmable),\napparently based on the fact that lots of vowel information can be found in\nthe low frequencies, while the important consonant information\n(unfortunately for me) is in the high frequencies. The two bands then are\ntreated with different compression schemes which are programable. They have\nalso developed a new fitting algorythm that builds on what they call\n'abnormal growth of loudness'.\n\nThis latter is interesting and fits my own personal experience, though I\nthink the phrase is missleading. What appears to be the case is that as you\nexceed the minimum threshold for a person with hearing loss, the deficit\nbecomes progresslively less compared to normals and by the time you reach\nthe 'too loud' point the sensitivity curves appear to converge.  This means\nthat if you just boost all sound levels, you are overloading at the high\nend for people with hearing losses. Hence what you want is progressively\nless amplification as the signal get closer to the maximum tolerable point.\nYou want to boost low volume sounds more than high and do so potentially\ndifferently for the low and high frequency parts of the spectrum (specially\nfor someone like me who is relatively normal up to 1000 cps and then falls\noff a cliff).\n\nAids with simple compressors don't descriminate between energy in the low\nand high frequencies and can therefor 'compress' useful high frequency\ninformation because of high volume of low frequency components.\nParticularly impressive was the ReSound performance with whispered speech\nand in simulated restaurant noise situations. ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":":>Sounds to me like someone was pulling your leg.  There is only one way for\n:>pregnancy to occur: intercourse.  These days however there is also\n:>artificial insemination and implantation techniques, but we're speaking of\n:>\"natural\" acts here.  It is possible for pregnancy to occur if semen is\n:>deposited just outside of the vagina (i.e. coitus interruptus), but that's\n:>about at far as you can get.  Through clothes -- no way.  Better go talk\n:>to your biology teacher.\n:\n: what is the likely hood of conception if sperm is deposited just outside\n:the vagina?  ie.  __% chance.\n: -------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nHmmm.... I really don't know.  Probably quite low overall.  Why don't we\nget a couple hundred willing couples together and find out ;->\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Apparently needing to clarify his comments from Thursday, Dr. Nizam\nPlawaby (spelling?), the Medical Examiner for Tarrant County, Texas,\nwho has authority in the Waco deaths, stated that since no autopsies\nhad been performed, there is no evidence for bullet wounds, or \nevidence against bullet wounds.\n\nJanet Reno also stated that she had never been told of bullet wounds\nby anyone in the Justice Department.  \n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"There is a good report list on most all of the good monitors in this\nmonths issue of Computer Shoppers magazine, with their phone munbers\nand all (April issue) $2.99....Sam","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nPerhaps one other thing I should have added is that Jeremiah's prophesies\nabout the coming destruction of Jerusalem would have been understood by\nthe people of that time to be a full frontal assault on their understanding\nof their relationship with the Lord. Today the if the general populace \nhears \"prophesies\" like the Portland earthquake or New York will burn\nones, they are unlikely to see it in the context of their relationship\n(or lack of it) with the Lord. They are far more likely to think that\nthey are just the result of the fevered imaginations of a religious nutter.\nThat is one reason why I am always deep;y suspicious of bald judgement\nprophesies without any explanation of the reasons for the judgement. This\ndoesn't have to be long winded. To see a relatively modern example look\nat Abraham Lincoln's second inaugural speech. The relevant section is\nbelow. It is this type of spiritual insight which was missing in both\nprophesies posted here.\n\n--- Excerpt from Abraham Lincoln's 2nd Inaugural speech----\n\nBoth read the same Bible, and pray \nto the same God; and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem \nstrange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing \ntheir bread from the sweat of other men's faces; but let us judge not\nthat we be not judged. The prayers of both could not he answered that of neither\nhas been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes. ''Woe unto the\nworld because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to\nthat man by whom the offence cometh\" If we shall suppose that American \nSlavery is one of those offences which, in the provdence of God, must needs come\nbut which, having  continued through  His appointed time, He now wills to remove\nand that He gives to both North and South, this terrible war, as the woe due to\nthose by whom the offence came, shall we discern therein an departure from\nthose divine attribute which the believers in a Living God always  ascribe \nto Him ? Fondly do we hope - fervently do we pray - that this mighty \nscourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue, \nuntil all the wealth piled by the bond-man's two hundred and fifty years of \nunrequited  toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn  with \nthe lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three \nthousand  years ago, so still it must be said \"the judgments of the Lord, \nare true and righteous altogether\"\n  With malice toward none; with charity for all;  with firmness in the right, \nas God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we \nare in; to bind up the nation's wounds; to care for him who shall have \nborne the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan - to do all which \nmay achieve and cherish a just, and a lasting peace, among ourselves, \nand with all nations.\n\n\n--\n                                                                     ___\nBill Rea                                                            (o o)\n-------------------------------------------------------------------w--U--w---","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n[edited]\n\n\n\nWell for starters, why use rle files?  You might have a specific program that\nneeds them, OK, but I tend to convert straight to jpeg format, thus a 2.4meg\n24bit targa file becomes a ~80k or less 24bit jpeg.\n\nThe latest versions of XV (2.2.1 ?) and xloadimage (3.03) both handle jpeg files.\nAnd the best way to convert to jpeg is with the c\/djpeg suit.  Even at 90%\nquality (you can't see the difference) the jpeg is way smaller than anything\nelse even an 8bit gif!\n\nLater'ish\nCraig","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nI've seen children do this and wondered about something.  If the\nmucus in one's nose collects (filters) particles going into the\nairway, if a child then picks and ingests this material, might\nit have a vaccinatory effect, since if the body ingests airborne\ndiseases or other 'stuff' on the mucus, the body might generate\nantibodies for this small \"invasion\"?\n\nMaybe this is why some children don't get sick very often? :-)\n                         - tom","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nSorry -- I mean eicosapentaenoic acid.\n\n\nCoincidentaly, just yesterday I was (finally) referred from the clinic\nto Hanauer. I'm seeing him on May 24. I'll report what he says about\nthis question.\n\n\nWill do.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nPerhaps the listlessness caused by thyroid deficiency could mimic\ndepression, or feeling unable to do anything could cause one to get\ndepressed, but I know of no specific effect on the brain caused by the\nthyroid that would cause depression. Note that weight gain is usually\na symptom of both. Simple blood tests would indicate if a thyroid\ncondition is present.\n\nI don't know if depression would cause a reduction in thyroid output,\nbut I would tend to doubt it. As far as I know clinical depression is\ncaused by a chemical imbalance in the brain, and that chemical\nimbalance has no direct effect on any other part of the body. A regular\neveryday depression IMHO should not cause a chemical imbalance in the\nbody at all.\n\nThe pituitary bases its secretions of Thyroid Stimulating Hormone (TSH)\non the level of circulating Thyroxin (there are two types T3 and T4 -\none is used as a reserve and is changed into the other -active- form in\nthe liver). The ratio of T3 & T4 can be affected by a number of other\nhormones (estrogen, for example). Naturally, changing activity of the\nbody's cells would cause changes in availabilty of free thyroxin, but\nthe liver and a healthy thyroid should be able to balance things out in\nshort order.\n\nGood sources for info on the thyroid are the Merk Manual (a physician's\nreference book ) although reading it is enough to get one depressed :-)\nand the Encyclopedia Brittanica (should be available in your local\nlibrary).\n\nI hope this has been of some help.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":": \n: |> Derek....\n: |> \n: |> There is a tool available to reset the service indicator on BMWs but the lights\n: |> will come back on after 2-3 weeks. The tool is in fact illegal (in Europe \n: |> atleast). It is often the case that the unsuspecting punter trots off to buy a \n: |> used BMW and a few weeks later, all the lights come on! Other than that, I know \n: |> of no other tool.... anyone else? \n: |> \n: Shaz,\n: \n: Hmm.. but the service indicators that I have works this way:\n:   There are 5 green,1 yellow, 1 red indicators.\n:   initially all green indicators will be on for few minutes when you start\n:   your car. The computer will actually \"sense\" how you drive your car and\n:   as time goes by the green indicators will start to go off one by one and\n:   then the yellow indicator will turn on and then the red indicator will go\n:   on. And you should get service when by the time green indicators are off.\n:   \n:   After service the mechanic(or you) will reset the service indicators and the\n:   computer starts counting again.\n: \n: So I expect to have a tool(or a procedure) to reset it so the green lights will \n: come on and the yellow and red lights will go off.\n: \n: I wonder how people can do oil change themself without knowing how to reset the\n: indicator.\n: \n: It's the first european car I have and changing oil at 15,000 miles is a \n: surprise to me. and it's a big plus :-). But I wonder how that could happen\n: since the oil lose its lubrication ability over time, I thought it's the oil and\n: not the vehicle that determines how often we should change oil.\n: \n: Any BMW owner on the net? Response welcomed.\n: \n: PS.  my initial question is \"how do you seset the service indicator of a BMW\"\n: \n: Derek \n\nThere is a perfectly legal tool available to reset the Bimmer service lights.\nIt will cost you 45$ from a mailorder, and buying one far outweighs\nthe possible consequences of destroying all the electronics if you try\ndi it yourself. \nYou wonder how people do an oil change without knowing how it reset.\nWhy is reseting so important? The only reason for doing\nit is stop the annoyance of a red light staring at you. \nForget this 'in european cars you only need to change the oil every\n15000' crap. Anyone serious about keeping their engine in good shape, and\nextending its life, will change it every 3000, (inc filter). Don't wait\nfor the servive lights to come on before servicing the car. \nI bought a bmw about 6 months ago, it had 3 green lights on. I have changed\nthe oil every 3000, completly flushed brake fliud, changed all filters(oil,\nair and fuel, changed transmission and drive oils\nand done almost all of the other things req for service 1\nand a service 2. After nearly 6000 miles, I am still on 2 green lights.\nAfter a winter in Burlington (and it is snowing today!!) that is not bad.\n\nGood luck!  \n\nBlair\n\n--\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nBlair E. Robertson\t\t             A New Zealander in Vermont\nUniversity of Vermont\t\t             posting his own ideas.........\nMedical Research Facilty\nSmooth Muscle Ion Channel Group\nColchester \nVermont 05446-2500\nemail blair@northpole.med.uvm.edu\nTelephone: (802) 656-8930","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"As I announced at the X Technical Conference in January, I would like to\nmake Imake-TeX, the Imake support for using the TeX typesetting system,\npublically available. Currently Imake-TeX is in beta test here at the\ncomputer science department of Dortmund University, and I am looking for\nsome more beta testers, preferably with different TeX and Imake\ninstallations.\n\n-- \n  Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute      I R B :  immer richtig beraten\n  Univ. Dortmund, IRB\n  Postfach 500500         |)|\/    Tel.: +49 231 755-4663\nD-W4600 Dortmund 50       |\\|\\    Fax : +49 231 755-2386","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"-------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n                               CALL FOR PAPERS\n\n\n   The Eighth International Symposium on Computer and Information Sciences\n\n                                ISCIS VIII\n                  November 3 - 5, 1993, Antalya, Turkey\n\n\n                               Organized by\n\n                                   EHEI\n            Ecole des Hautes Etudes en Informatique, Paris, France\n\n                                   METU\n              Middle East Technical University, Ankara, Turkey\n\n\n                            in cooperation with\n                  IEEE Computer Society Turkey Chapter,\n                            IEEE Turkey Section\n                       and the following universities:\n             Bogazici, Ege, Hacettepe, Istanbul Teknik, Yildiz.\n\n                            ISCIS Advisory Board:\n             E.Arkun, E.Gelenbe, U.Halici, E.Harmanci, K.Inan,\n          Y.Karsligil, S.Kuru, N.Yalabik, U. Yarimagan, S.Yilmaz\n\n\n Conference Chair        Program Co-Chairs           Publicity Chair\n --------------------    ------------------------    ----------------------\n Erol Gelenbe,           L. Gun, IBM, USA            Ugur Halici, METU\n Duke University, USA    R. Onvural,IBM, USA         halici@vm.cc.metu.edu.tr\n erol@egr.duke.edu       P. Quinton,IRISA, France    halici@trmetu.bitnet\n\n\n                            Program Committee\n                            -----------------\nV. Akman, Turkey, E. Alpaydin, Turkey, E. Arkun, Turkey, I. Aybay, Turkey,\nS. Bilgen, Turkey, A. Dogac, Turkey, A. Dogramaci, Turkey, S. Fdida, France,\nJ.M. Fourneau, France, E. Gelenbe, USA,  G. Gonenc, Turkey, U. Halici, Turkey,\nE. Harmanci, Turkey, K. Inan, Turkey, S. Jaehnischen,Germany, S. Kuru, Turkey,\nM. Nivat, France, V. Paschos, France, N.Pekergin, France, J.F. Perrot, France,\nM. Raynal,France, A. Stafylopatis, Greece, G. Stamon,France, G. Ucoluk, Turkey,\nN. Yalabik, Turkey\n\n\n                            Publicity Committee\n                            -------------------\n    Isik Aybay, Osman Basbugoglu, Semih Bilgen, Emin Germen, Mert Sungur\n\n\nISCIS VIII is the eighth of a series of meetings which have brought together\ncomputer scientists and engineers from about twenty countries. This year's\nconference will be held in the beautiful Mediterranean resort city of\nAntalya, in a region rich in natural as well as historical sites.\n\n\n           RESEARCH PAPERS ARE SOUGHT IN THE FOLLOWING AREAS:\n           --------------------------------------------------\n        Theory of Computer Science   -   Computer Architecture & Systems\n           Artificial Intelligence   -   Neural Networks\n     Graphics and Image Processing   -   Computational Mathematics\n  Operations Research Applications   -   Databases\n            Performance Evaluation   -   Software Engineering\n                 Computer Networks   -   Parallelism\n\nPaper Submission:  Full papers are limited to 8 pages and short\ncommunications are limited  to 4 pages. Submit five camera ready copies\n(one original and four copies) of the paper and an accompanying letter by\npostal mail only, so as to arrive by  June 30, 1993 to:\n\n            ISCIS VIII, Attn Drs Levent Gun and Raif Onvural,\n   IBM E95\/B 673, P.O. Box 12195, Research Triangle Park, NC 27709, USA\n\nSelected papers from ISCIS VIII will be published in the journal Information\nSciences (Elsevier - North Holland).\n\nPoster Submission: Submit five camera ready copies of 1 page extended\nabstract with an accompanying letter by July 30, 1993 to the address given\nabove.\n\nInformation: For required writing format, further information and\nannouncements, contact:","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nYes, but it's broken on OW 2.0.  It does not handle multiple pages\nwell.  If you don't have the proper PostScript commands it will\ndraw the entire document on the same page instead of pausing after\neach page.  I haven't tried OW 3.0 yet, though.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nWell, it looks like, just as Doug trumped Tim, beating him to the net\nwith his defensive analyses, so Tim has gotten in ahead of me.\n\nThe way I was doing it was a little different. Being me, of course, I\nused equivalent averages to work out how many runs a player was worth,\nand I calculated both rate of performance (fielding equivalent\naverage) and total performance (fielding equivalent runs). But I\ncompared, not to the average player, but the replacement player, and\nhere's why: because the positional adjustment comes built in to the\nsystem. In the AL of 1992, the average SS is 32.9 runs above\nreplacement (RAR); cf, 31.6; 2B, 28.8; 3B, 26.3; LF, 26.0; RF, 24.6;\n1B, 16.9. We may quibble with the exact numbers, but the order looks\nsubstantially right.\n\nIn the equivalent average, I have always set league average to .235. I\nhad decided in hitting that the replacement level batter has an eqa of\n.180; the name of that replacement level hitter, often as not, is\n\"Billy Ripken\". I decided to let the replacement level fielder be the\nsame distance from .235 as .180, but in the opposite direction as I\nhave set it up; that makes for an eqa of .280. (Yes, I can add. Runs\nare proportional to eqa squared; the difference between 180 squared\nand 235 squared equals the difference to 279 squared, and I rounded\noff for simplicity). An all-replacement fielding team would have:\nRandy Milligan at first (.282), Willie Randolph (.269) at second, Leo\nGomez (.279) at third, Walt Weiss (.269) at short, Kevin Bass (.271)\nin left, HoJo (.257) in center, and Eric Anthony (.277) in right. Ugh.\n\nSo, the total number of RAR for a player is the sum of his batting and\nfielding RAR. I can rate them by total RAR, or RAR per some number of\nbatting outs, like 400. An average player has a total RAR of about 55,\n30 batting, 25 fielding.\n\nTotal RAR (bat\/field)\n\n1. Bonds      152 (124\/28)  Ventura    124 (66\/58)\n2. Sandberg   143 (88\/55)   Thomas     122 (110\/12)\n3. Van Slyke  122 (91\/31)   Anderson   109 (75\/34)\n4. Grace      114 (70\/44)   Raines     100 (68\/32)\n5. Lankford   111 (76\/35)   Puckett     98 (76\/22)\n6. Pendleton  108 (71\/37)   Alomar      98 (75\/23)\n7. Finley     104 (70\/34)   Martinez E  97 (81\/16)\n8. Bagwell    101 (73\/28)   Mack        93 (70\/23)\n9. Butler      96 (74\/22)   McGwire     93 (79\/14)\n10 Sheffield   96 (85\/11)   Griffey     92 (70\/22)\n11 Larkin      96 (65\/31)   Devereaux   89 (56\/34)\n12 Grissom     95 (57\/38)   Henderson   88 (66\/23)\n13 Walker      94 (61\/33)   Listach     87 (50\/37)\n14 Justice     92 (52\/40)   Lofton      85 (46\/39)\n15 W. Clark    91 (73\/18)   Baerga      83 (55\/28)\n16 Kruk        82 (78\/ 4)   D. White    79 (39\/40)\n17 O. Smith    80 (46\/34)   Palmeiro    76 (54\/22)\n18 Gwynn       80 (47\/33)   Sierra      76 (52\/24)\n19 Hollins     80 (68\/12)   Carter      73 (57\/17)\n20 J. Bell     79 (42\/37)   Gonzalez    73 (60\/13)\n\nNotable entries in a per-400 batting out rating, NL: top 7 are Bonds,\n177, LF; Sandberg, 130, 2b; Van Slyke, 114, cf; Grace, 107, 1b;\nLarkin, 102, ss; Justice, 99, rf; Sheffield, 99, 3B. One at each\nposition measured! McGriff, despite +85 batting RAR, fifth in league,\nfinishes out of the top 20 due to a -13 in fielding. Last by position: \nGalarraga 39, Stillwell -10, Hansen 30, Belliard 30 (Blauser gad a 69,\n3rd in league), May 43, Dascenzo 34, Anthony 38.\n\nIn the AL, much-maligned Rickey Henderson was worth 120, second only\nto Frank Thomas' 124; Ventura edges Edgar at third, 116-111; Grebeck\nrates a potent 102!; Griffey edges Puckett as top CF, 93-90; Listach\nnudges out Lofton among rookies, 82-80. And Alomar clearly outpoints\nBaerga, 97-73. Last by position: Segui 10, Sojo 29, Palmer 22, Lewis\n31, Polonia 40, Cuyler 26, V. Hayes 39.\n\nAll for now.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nNo, Dave, and as an anthropologist I take great umbrage with this \nmisrepresentation.  I sense that it is you that has made the jump from creation\n(science) to religion (see above).  I have characterized science\/*creation \nscience* as rationalism\/nonsense, and that it is.  When people promote their \nreligious beliefs as science they become nonsense.  Kept where they belong \nthey are meaningful and useful, as virtually any anthropologists will tell you,\nand as I have said several times in this group.  And it works the other way, \ntoo, and I have repeatedly said so.  Never have I said or meant anything \ndifferent, here or elsewhere, and I don't think my communication skills betray\nme.  Nor do I presume to offend people's spiritual sensibilities, as\nI would hope others would not disparage mine.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Hi Xperts!\n\nHow can I move the cursor with the keyboard (i.e. cursor keys), \nif no mouse is available?\n\nAny hints welcome.\n\nThanks.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n1st Tech Corp.\n12202 Technology Blvd., Suite 130\nPO Box 200656\nAustin TX  78720-0656\n800 533 1744\n512 258 3570\nFax 512 258 3689\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Hi:\n\nI have a '82 Blue TOYOTA Corolla\/Tercel for sale:\n\nReason for seeling this great little car is my new Celica.\n\nCar Specifications:\n\n1982 Toyota Corolla\/Tercel\n5-Speed\n125K miles\n2 Door\nBlue\nAir conditioning\/Heat\nAM\/FM stereo\nWell taken care off and maintained clean\nNew Battery, Timing Belt, and fan belt.\n\nInspection sticker valid until 02\/94\nA tough car, generally go above 200K miles.\n\nMake me an offer.\n\nE-mail : reddy@ulysses.att.com\nphone  : (908) 582-3861 (Work)\n\t (201) 635-3705 (Home)\n\n\tKishore Reddy","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nIn fact, he's a complete and total dickhead on at least 2 newsgroups\n(this one and rec.sport.hockey).  Since hockey season is almost over,\nhe's back to being a dickhead in r.s.bb.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I was wondering if somebody knows of a PD program for converting\nany graphic formats such as fig, pic, unixplot, tek, etc. to\ngremlin. Thanks,","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"greetings..\nI'm a novice in this area. I'm trying to gather info. on standard\nphone line settings.\nquick questions :\n      > if I just want to send out a beep over the phone lines,\n        can I do it with some function generator & tie it up to\n        one of those phone wires ??\n      > which one of those wires should I connect to my DTMF chip\n        as AUDIO IN ??\n \nany help would be much appreciated..","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Maxtor XT8670S  660 MB SCSI Drive\n16ms access time\n2 years old\nExternal Casing\n\n$777","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nYeah I think we're used to it by now. (even if some of us do change our\n.sigs to root for our second favorite teams :-)\n\n\nI'll be happy if they win it before I get out of school. (the way it's going\nI may be here saying Piled Higher and Deeper before long)\n\n\nI have a feeling that alot of people out there may not like this statement\nbut......\nby far the worst \"band  wagon\" fans are the PIT fans (at least at the present).\nCase in Point -- I know a guy who just came to Hockey Hell(TM) from Pitt U.\nHim - \"How 'bout the Pens? The're F-ing awesome\"\nMe - \"Yeah but beating up on the Devils doesn't mean alot. Wait until\n\tthey meet Boston and\/or Detroit in the Playoffs start.\"\nHim - \"When do the Playoffs start?\"\nMe - \"Uhhhh. They started a week ago.\"\n\nI'm not saying that this is true of all the Waddlers fans but there seems to \nbe alot of them floating around who really know nothing about hockey except\nthat they're newly beloved Waddlers are the best team in the game right now\nand when they're not the best team those fans will disappear into the woodwork.\n\nJohn\nFlames >> dev\/null\nSerious comments welcomed.\n\"Eat the Rich\"\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"          must have\n          must\n          must\n          I've seen amps and volts, I would go for the volts\n          must you ask?\n          I would like to know how much gas I have. Of course the \n          gauge I have now dosen't tell me s**t so I could see not \n          having one in favor of  a warning light at say, 50mi\n          OOOOOOHHHHH! how I would LOOOVE to have a vacuum gauge \n           on my dash!","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nThis has been an interesting thread to follow... and obviously this group\nwasn't intended as a forum for the discussion of piracy... Has anyone seen\nany estimates of the lost revenue due to pirates?  I was wondering if\npiracy is more rampant in Home or Corporate computing environments.  I would\ntend to think that business environment \"piracy\" is the major contributor to\nthis form of lost revenue.  So many companies will purchase a few copies of a\nsoftware package and then employees will internally distribute them as if they\nowned a site-license!  What do you guys think?\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Hi everybody!\n\nDoes anyone know of companies that are currently manufacturing\nencryption chips for sale to the general public?  Get them while you\ncan!  Some pointers would be greatly appreciated.\n\nThanks","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I am working on a project and am in need of information regarding the  \ncurrents (at the head) needed to write to a hard drive and the currents  \nproduced when reading.  If anyone has information it would be much  \nappreciated.\nmcole@nmsu.edu\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I was wondering if anyone knows of a graphics package for the PC that\nwill do compositing of a series of pictures?\n\nWhat I mean by \"compositing\" is, say I have a live video clip\n(digitized) panning around a living room, and a computer-generated\nbird flying around the screen.  I want to combine these two series of\npictures so that everywhere where the bird frames are black, I want\nthe living room picture to show through.  Yes, I realize I can do this\nwith a genlock, and I do own a genlock, but I want to be able to do\nmanual compositing also.  It's ok if I have to composite one frame at\na time; I assumed I'd have to do that anyway.  But being able to\ncomposite a series of frames would be even better.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"------------- cut here -----------------\n\n\n\n\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 13\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n\n\n::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::\n                        Food & Drug Administration News\n::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::\n\n              FDA Approves Depo Provera, injectable contraceptive\n                      P92-31 Food and Drug Administration\n              FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Susan Cruzan - (301) 443-3285\n\n\nThe Food and Drug Administration today announced the approval of Depo Provera, \nan injectable contraceptive drug. \n\nThe drug, which contains a synthetic hormone similar to the natural hormone \nprogesterone, protects women from pregnancy for three months per injection. \nThe hormone is injected into the muscle of the arm or buttock where it is \nreleased into the bloodstream to prevent pregnancy. It is more than 99 percent \neffective.\n\n\"This drug presents another long-term, effective option for women to prevent \npregnancy,\" said FDA Commissioner David A. Kessler, M.D. \"As an injectable, \ngiven once every three months, Depo Provera eliminates problems related to \nmissing a daily dose.\"\n\nDepo Provera is available in 150 mg. single dose vials from doctors and \nclinics and must be given on a regular basis to maintain contraceptive \nprotection. If a patient decides to become pregnant, she discontinues the \ninjections.\n\nAs with any such products, FDA advises patients to discuss the benefits and \nrisks of Depo Provera with their doctor or other health care professional \nbefore making a decision to use it.\n\nDepo Provera's effectiveness as a contraceptive was established in extensive \nstudies by the manufacturer, the World Health Organization and health agencies \nin other countries. U.S. clinical trials, begun in 1963, also found Depo \nProvera effective as an injectable contraceptive.\n\nThe most common side effects are menstrual irregularities and weight gain. In \naddition, some patients may experience headache, nervousness, abdominal pain, \ndizziness, weakness or fatigue. The drug should not be used in women who have \nacute liver disease, unexplained vaginal bleeding, breast cancer or blood \nclots in the legs, lungs or eyes.\n\nThe labeling advises doctors to rule out pregnancy before prescribing the \ndrug, due to concerns about low birth weight in babies exposed to the drug. \n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 14\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\nRecent data have also demonstrated that long-term use may contribute to \nosteoporosis. The manufacturer will conduct additional research to study this \npotential effect.\n\nDepo Provera was Developed in the 1960s and has been approved for \ncontraception in many other countries. The UpJohn Company of Kalamazoo, Mich., \nwhich will market the drug under the name, Depo Provera Contraceptive \nInjection, first submitted it for approval in the United States in the 1970s. \nAt that time, animal studies raised questions about its potential to cause \nbreast cancer. Worldwide studies have since found the overall risk of cancer, \nincluding breast cancer in humans, to be minimal if any.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 15\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n       New Rules Speed Approval of Drugs for Life-Threatening Illnesses\n                      P92-37 Food and Drug Administration\n                        Monica Revelle - (301) 443-4177\n\nThe Food and Drug Administration today announced that it will soon publish new \nrules to shed the approval of drugs for patients with serious or life-\nthreatening illnesses, such as AIDS, cancer and Alzheimer's disease. \n\n\"These final rules will help patients who are suffering the most serious \nillnesses to get access to new drugs months or even years earlier than would \notherwise be possible,\" said HHS Secretary Louis W. Sullivan, M.D. \"The effort \nto accelerate FDA review for these drugs has been a long-term commitment and \nindeed a hallmark of this administration.\" \n\nThese rules establish procedures for the Food and Drug Administration to \napprove a drug based on \"surrogate endpoints\" or markers. They apply when the \ndrug provides a meaningful benefit over currently available therapies. Such \nendpoints would include laboratory tests or physical signs that do not in \nthemselves constitute a clinical effect but that are judged by qualified \nscientists to be likely to correspond to real benefits to the patient. \n\nUse of surrogate endpoints for measurement of drug efficacy permits approval \nearlier than if traditional endpoints -- such as relief of disease symptoms or \nprevention of disability and death from the disease -- are used. \n\nThe new rules provide for therapies to be approved as soon as safety and \neffectiveness, based on surrogate endpoints, can be reasonably established. \nThe drug's sponsor will be required to agree to continue or conduct \npostmarketing human studies to confirm that the drug's effect on the surrogate \nendpoint is an indicator of its clinical effectiveness. \n\nOne new drug -- zalcitabine (also called ddC) -- was approved June 19, using a \nmodel of this process, for treating the human immunodeficiency virus, HIV, the \ncause of AIDS. \n\nAccelerated approval can also be used, if necessary, when FDA determines that \na drug, judged to be effective for the treatment of a disease, can be used \nsafely only under a restricted distribution plan. \n\n\"The new rules will help streamline the drug development and review process \nwithout sacrificing goad science and rigorous FDA oversight,\" said FDA \ncommissioner David A. Kessler, M.D. \"While drug approval will be accomplished \nfaster, these drugs and biological products must still meet safety and \neffectiveness standards required by law.\" \n\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 16\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\nThe new procedures also allow for a streamlined withdrawal process if the \npostmarketing studies do not verify the drug's clinical benefit, if there is \nnew evidence that the drug product is not shown to be safe and effective, or \nif other specified circumstances arise that necessitate expeditious withdrawal \nof the drug or biologic.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 17\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n\n\n::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::\n                                   Articles\n::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::\n\n               Research Shows Promise for Preventing or Slowing\n                       Blindness due to Retinal Disease\n\n                   National Retinitis Pigmentosa Foundation\n\n        Neutrophilic Factors Rescue Photoreceptor Cells in Animal Tests\n\n     Baltimore, MD - Researchers at the University of California San Francisco \nand Regeneron Pharmaceuticals, Inc. [NASDAQ: REGN] have discovered that \ncertain naturally occurring substances known as neurotrophic factors can \nprevent the degeneration of light-sensing cells in the retina of the eye. The \ndegeneration of these cells, known as photoreceptors, is a major cause of \nvisual impairment \n     This research, published to in the December issue of the Proceedings of \nthe National Academy of Science (PNAS), holds promise for people who may lose \ntheir sight due to progressive retinal degeneration -- currently, no drug \ntreatment for retinal degeneration exists. It is estimated that 2.5 million \nAmericans have severe vision loss due to age-related macular degeneration and \n100,000 Americans are affected by retinitis pigmentosus, a hereditary disease \nthat causes blindness. In addition, each year more than 15,000 people undergo \nsurgical procedures to repair retinal detachments and other retinal traumas. \n     The research was funded in part by the RP (Retinitis Pigmentosa) \nFoundation Fighting Blindness, Regeneron Pharmaceuticals and the National Eye \nInstitute. It was conducted by Drs. Matthew M. LaVail, Kazuhiko Unoki, Douglas \nYasurnura, Michael T. Matthes and Roy H. Steinberg at UCSF, arld Dr. C;eorge \nYancoooulos, Regeneron's Vice President for Discovery. Regeneron holds an \nexclusive license for this research from UCSF.\n     In the research described in the PNAS , a light-damage model was used to \nassess the survival-promoting activity of a number of naturally occurring \nsubstances. Experimental rats were exposed to constant light for one week. \nEyes that had not been treated with an effective factor lost most of their \nphotoreceptor cells -- the rods and cones of the retina -- after light \nexposure. Brain Derived Neurotrophic Factor (BDNF) and Ciliary Neurotrophic \nFactor (CNTF) were particularly effective in this model without causing \nunwanted side effects; other factors such as Nerve Growth Factor (NGF) and \nInsulin-like Growth Factor (IGF-1) were not effective in these experiments. \n     Discussing the research, Dr. Jesse M. Cedarbaum, Regeneron's Director of \nClinical Research, said, \"BDNF's ability to rescue neurons in the retina that \nhave been damaged by light exposure may hold promise for the treatment of age-\nrelated macular degeneration, one of the leading causes of vision impairment, \nand for retinal detachment. Following detachment, permanent vision loss may \n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 18\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\nresult frorn the death of detached retinal cells. It is possible that BDNF \ncould play a role in rescuing those cells once the retina has been reattached \nsurgically.\" \n     \"Retinitis pigmentosa is a slowly progressing disease that causes the \nretina to degenerate over a period of years or even decades. Vision decreases \nto a small tunnel of sight and can result in total blindness. It is our hope \nthat research on growth factors will provide a means to slow the progression \nand preserve useful vision throughout life,\" stated Jeanette S. Felix, Ph.D., \nDirector of Science for the RP Foundation Fighting Blindness. \n     In addition to the work described , Regeneron is developing BDNF in \nconjunction with Aingen Inc. [NASDAQ:AMGN] as a possible treatment for \nperipheral neuropathies associated with diabetes and cancer chemotherapy, \nmotor neuron diseases, Parkinson's disease, and Alzheimer's disease. By \nitself, Regeneron is testing CNTF in patients with arnyotrophic lateral \nsclerosis (commonly known as Lou Gehrig's disease). \n     Regeneron Pharlnaceuticals, Inc., based in Tarrytown, New York, is a \nleader in the discovery and development of biotechnology-based compounds for \nthe treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, peripheral neuropathies and nerve \ninjuries, which affect more than seven million Americans. Drs. LaVail and \nSteinberg of UCSF are consultants to Regeneron.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 19\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n                 Affluent Diet Increases Risk Of Heart Disease\n\n                          Research Resources Reporter\n                           written by Mary Weideman\n                                 Nov\/Dec 1992\n                         National Institutes of Health\n\n\n     High-fat, high-calorie diets rapidly increase risk factors for coronary \nheart disease in native populations of developing countries that have \ntraditionally consumed diets low in fat.  These findings, according to \ninvestigators at the Oregon Health Sciences University in Portland, have \nserious implications for public health in both industrialized and developing \ncountries. \n     \"This study demonstrates why we can develop coronary heart disease and \nhave higher blood cholesterol and triglyceride levels.  It shows also the \nimportance of diet and particularly the potential of the diet to increase body \nweight, thereby leading to a whole host of other health problems in developing \ncountries and affluent nations as well,\" explains principal investigator Dr. \nWilliam E. Connor, head of the section of clinical nutrition and lipid \nmetabolism at Oregon Health Sciences University. \n     Over the past 25 years Dr. Connor and his team have characterized the \nfood and nutrient intakes of the Tara humara Indians in Mexico, while \nsimultaneously documenting various aspects of Tarahumara lipid metabolism.  \nThese native Mexicans number approximately 50,000 and reside in the Sierra \nMadre Occidental Mountains in the state of Chihuahua.  The Tarahumaras have \ncoupled an agrarian diet to endurance racing.  Probably as a result, coronary \nheart disease, which is so prevalent in Western industrialized nations, is \nvirtually non existent in their culture.  Loosely translated, the name \nTarahumara means \"fleet of foot,\" reflecting a tribal passion for betting on \n\"kickball\" races, in which participants run distances of 100 miles or more \nwhile kicking a machete-carved wooden ball.\n     The typical Tarahumara diet consists primarily of pinto beans, tortillas, \nand pinole, a drink made of ground roasted corn mixed with cold water, \ntogether with squash and gath ered fruits and vegetables.  The Tara humaras \nalso eat small amounts of game, fish, and eggs.  Their food contains \napproximately 12 percent of total calories as fat of which the majority (69 \npercent) is of vegetable origin.  Dietician Martha McMurry, a coinvestigator \nin the study, describes their diet as simple and very rich in nutrients while \nlow in cholesterol and fat.\n     The Tarahumaras have average plasma cholesterol levels of 121 mg\/ dL, \nlow-density lipoprotein (LDL)-cholesterol levels of 72 mg\/dl, and high-density \nlipoprotein (HDL)-cholesterol levels of 32 to 42 mg\/dl.  All of those values \nare in the good, low-risk range, according to the researchers.  Elevated \ncholesterol and LDL-cholesterol levels are considered risk factors for heart \n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 20\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\ndisease.  HDL-cholesterol is considered beneficial.  In previous studies the \nTarahumaras had been found to be at low risk for cardiac disease, although \nable to respond to high-cholesterol diets with elevations in total and LDL-\ncholesterol. \n     Clinical Research Center dietitian McMurry and coinvestigator Maria \nTeresa Cerqueira established a metabolic unit in a Jesuit mission school \nbuilding near a community hospital in the small village of Sisoguichi.  Food \nwas weighed, cooked, and fed to the study participants under the \ninvestigators' direct supervision, ensuring that subjects ate only food \nstipulated by the research protocol.  Fasting blood was drawn twice weekly, \nand plasma samples were frozen and shipped to Dr. Connors laboratory for \ncholesterol, triglyceride, and lipoprotein analyses.  Regular measurements \nincluded participant body weight, height, and triceps skin fold thickness.  \nThirteen Tarahumaras, five women and eight men, including one adolescent, were \nfed their native diet for 1 week, followed by 5 weeks of an \"affluent\" diet. \n     \"In this study we went up to a concentration of dietary fat that was 40 \npercent of total calories.  This is the prototype of the holiday diet that \nmany Americans consume a diet high in fat, sugar, and cholesterol, low in \nfiber,\" elaborates Dr. Conners. Such dietary characteristics are reflected in \nthe cholesterol-saturation index, or CSI, recently devised research dietitian \nSonja Conner working with Dr. Connor.  \"The CSI is a single number that \nincorporates both the amount of cholesterol and the amount of saturated fat in \nthe diet.  CSI indicates the diet's potential to elevate the cholesterol \nlevel, particularly the LDL,\" Dr. Connor explains.  The Tarahumaran diet \naverages a very low CSI of 20; Dr. Connor's \"affluent\" diet used in the study \nranks a CSI of 149. \n     The experimental design of this study reflects the importance of \nestablishing baseline plasma lipid levels, typical of the native diet, before \nexposing subjects to the experimental diet.  The standard curve relating \ndietary food intake to plasma cholesterol demonstrates a leveling off, or \nplateau, for consumption of large amounts of fat.  Changes in dietary fat \nand\/or cholesterol in this range have little effect on plasma levels.  \"You \nmust have the baseline diet almost free of the variables you are going to put \ninto the experimental diet.  The Framingham study, for example, did not \ndiscriminate on the basis of diet between individuals who got heart disease \nbecause the diet was already high in fat.  All subjects were already eating on \na plateau,\" Dr. Connor says. \n     After 5 weeks of consuming the \"affluent\" diet, the subjects' mean plasma \ncholesterol levels had in creased by 31 percent, primarily in the LDL \nfraction, which rose 39 percent.  HDL-cholesterol increased by 31 per cent, \nand LDL to HDL ratios changed therefore very little.  Plasma triglyceride \nlevels increased by 18 percent, and subjects averaged an 8-pound gain in \nweight.  According to Dr. Connor, lipid changes occurred surprisingly soon, \nyielding nearly the same results after 7 days of affluent diet as after 35 \ndays. \n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 21\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n     The increase in HDL carries broad dietary implications for industrialized \nnations.  \"We think HDL-cholesterol increased because we increased the amount \nof dietary fat over the fat content used in the previous Tarahumara metabolic \nstudy.  In that study we saw no change in HDL levels after raising the dietary \ncholesterol but keeping the fat relatively consistent with native consumption.  \nIn the present study we increased fat intake to 40 percent of the total \ncalories.  We reached the conclusion in the Tarahumara study that HDL reflects \nthe amount of dietary fat in general and not the amount of dietary \ncholesterol.  HDL must increase to help metabolize the fat, and it increased \nquite a bit in this study,\" Dr. Connor explains.\n     Low HDL in the Tarahumarans is not typically an important predictor of \ncoronary heart disease because they do not normally consume large amounts of \nfat or cholesterol.  HDL remains an important predictor to Americans because \nof their usual high fat intake. \n     Dr. Connor recommends a diet for Americans that contains less than 20 \npercent of total calories as fat, less than 100 mg of cholesterol, and a CSI \naround 20, varying in accordance with caloric needs.  Such a diet is low in \nmeat and dairy fat, high in fiber.  Dr. Connor also comments on recent \nsuggestions that Americans adopt a \"Mediterranean-style\" diet.  \"The original \nMediterranean diet, in its pristine state, consisted of a very low intake of \nfat and very few animal and dairy products.  We are already eating a lot of \nmeat and dairy products.  Simply to continue that pattern while switching to \nolive oil is not going to help the situation.\" \n     The World Health Organization (WHO) is focusing much attention on the \nemergence of diseases such as coronary heart disease in nations and societies \nundergoing technological development.  Dr. Connor says that coronary heart \ndisease starts with a given society's elite, who typically eat a different \ndiet than the average citizen.  \"If the pattern of afluence increases, the \nentire population will have have a higher incidence of coronary heart disease, \nwhich places a termendous health care burden on a society.  WHO would like the \ndeveloping countries to prevent coronary heart disease, so they can \nconcentrate on other aspects of their economic development and on public \nhealth measures to improve general well-being, rather than paying for \nunnecessary, expensive medical technology,\" Dr. Connors says.\n     \"The overall implication of this study is that humans can readily move \ntheir plasma lipids and lipoprotein values into a high-risk range within a \nvery short time by an affluent, excessive diet.  The present rate of coronary \nheart disease in the United States is 30 percent less than it was 20 years \nago, so a lot has been accomplished.  We are changing rapidly,\" he concludes.\n\n\n\n\n\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 22\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n\n\n::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::\n                             General Announcments\n::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::\n\n        Publications for Health Professionals Available from NCI (1\/93)\n\nUnless otherwise noted, the following materials are provided free of charge by \ncalling the NCI's Publication Ordering Service, 1-800-4-CANCER.  Because \nFederal Government publications are not subject to copyright restriction, you \nare free to photocopy NCI material. \n \n \nGENERAL INFORMATION\n \n \n     ANTICANCER DRUG INFORMATION SHEETS IN SPANISH\/ENGLISH.  Two-\n     sided fact sheets (in English and Spanish) provide\n     information about side effects of common drugs used to treat\n     cancer, their proper usage, and precautions for patients.\n     The fact sheets were prepared by the United States\n     Pharmacopeial Convention, Inc., for distribution by the\n     National Cancer Institute.  Single sets only may be ordered.\n \n     CANCER RATES AND RISKS, 3RD EDITION (85-691).  This book is\n     a compact guide to statistics, risk factors, and risks for\n     major cancer sites.  It includes charts and graphs showing\n     incidence, mortality, and survival worldwide and in the\n     United States.  It also contains a section on the costs of\n     cancer. 136 pages.\n \n     DIET, NUTRITION & CANCER PREVENTION: A GUIDE TO FOOD CHOICES\n     (87-2778).  This booklet describes what is now known about\n     diet, nutrition, and cancer prevention.  It provides\n     information about foods that contain components like fiber,\n     fat, and vitamins that may affect a person's risk of getting\n     certain cancers.  It suggests ways to use that information\n     to select from a broad variety of foods--choosing more of\n     some foods and less of others. Includes recipes and sample\n     menus.  39 pages.\n \n     NATIONAL CANCER INSTITUTE FACT BOOK.  This book presents\n     general information about the National Cancer Institute\n     including budget data, grants and contracts, and historical\n     information.\n \n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 23\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n     NATIONAL CANCER INSTITUTE GRANTS PROCESS (91-1222) (Revised\n     3\/90).  This booklet describes general NCI grant award\n     procedures; includes chapters on eligibility, preparation of\n     grant application, peer review, eligible costs, and post-\n     award activities.  62 pages.\n \n     PHYSICIAN TO PHYSICIAN: PERSPECTIVE ON CLINICAL TRIALS. This\n     15-minute videocassette discusses why and how to enter\n     patients on clinical trials.  It was produced in\n     collaboration with the American College of Surgeons\n     Commission on Cancer.\n \n \n     STUDENTS WITH CANCER: A RESOURCE FOR THE EDUCATOR (91-2086).\n     (Revised 4\/87) This booklet is designed for teachers who\n     have students with cancer in their classrooms or schools. It\n     includes an explanation of cancer, its treatment and\n     effects, and guidelines for the young person's re-entry to\n     school and for dealing with terminally ill students.\n     Bibliographies are included for both educators and young\n     people.  22 pages.\n \n     UNDERSTANDING THE IMMUNE SYSTEM (92-529). This booklet\n     describes the complex network of specialized cells and\n     organs that make up the human immune system. It explains how\n     the system works to fight off disease caused by invading\n     agents such as bacteria and viruses, and how it sometimes\n     malfunctions, resulting in a variety of diseases from\n     allergies, to arthritis, to cancer. It was developed by the\n     National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and\n     printed by the National Cancer Institute.  This booklet\n     presents college level instruction in immunology.  It is\n     appropriate for nursing or pharmacology students and for\n     persons receiving college training in other areas within the\n     health professions.  36 pages.\n \n \nMATERIALS TO HELP STOP TOBACCO USE\n \n     CHEW OR SNUFF EDUCATOR PACKAGE (91-2976).  Each package\n     contains:\n \n          Ten copies of CHEW OR SNUFF IS REAL BAD STUFF, a\n          brochure designed for seventh and eighth graders that\n          describes the health and social effects of using\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 24\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n          smokeless tobacco products.  When fully opened, the\n          brochure can be used as a poster.\n \n          One copy of CHEW OR SNUFF IS REAL BAD STUFF:  A GUIDE\n          TO MAKE YOUNG PEOPLE AWARE OF THE DANGERS OF USING\n          SMOKELESS TOBACCO.  This booklet is a lesson plan for\n          teachers.  It contains facts about smokeless tobacco,\n          suggested classroom activities, and selected\n          educational resources.\n \n     HOW TO HELP YOUR PATIENTS STOP SMOKING: A NATIONAL CANCER\n     INSTITUTE MANUAL FOR PHYSICIANS (92-3064).  This is a step-\n     by-step handbook for instituting smoking cessation\n     techniques in medical practices.  The manual, with resource\n     lists and tear-out materials, is based on the results of NCI\n     clinical trials.  75 pages.\n \n     HOW TO HELP YOUR PATIENTS STOP USING TOBACCO: A NATIONAL\n     CANCER INSTITUTE MANUAL FOR THE ORAL HEALTH TEAM (91-3191).\n     This is a handbook for dentists, dental hygienists, and\n     dental assistants.  It complements the physicians' manual\n     and includes additional information on smoking prevention\n     and on smokeless tobacco use.  58 pages.\n \n     PHARMACISTS HELPING SMOKERS QUIT KIT.  A packet of materials\n     to help pharmacists encourage their smoking patients to\n     quit.  Contains a pharmacist's guide and self-help materials\n     for 25 patients.\n \n     SCHOOL PROGRAMS TO PREVENT SMOKING: THE NATIONAL CANCER\n     INSTITUTE GUIDE TO STRATEGIES THAT SUCCEED (90-500).  This\n     guide outlines eight essential elements of a successful\n     school-based smoking prevention program based on NCI\n     research.  It includes a list of available curriculum\n     resources and selected references.  24 pages.\n \n \n     SELF-GUIDED STRATEGIES FOR SMOKING CESSATION: A PROGRAM\n     PLANNER'S GUIDE (91-3104). This booklet outlines key\n     characteristics of successful self-help materials and\n     programs based on NCI collaborative research.  It lists\n     additional resources and references. 36 pages.\n \n \n     SMOKING POLICY: QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. These ten fact sheets\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 25\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n     provide basic information about the establishment of\n     worksite smoking policies. Topics range from the health\n     effects of environmental tobacco smoke to legal issues\n     concerning policy implementation.\n \n     STRATEGIES TO CONTROL TOBACCO USE IN THE UNITED STATES:  A\n     BLUEPRINT FOR PUBLIC HEALTH ACTION IN THE 1990s (92-3316:\n     Smoking and Control Monograph No. 1).  This volume provides\n     a summary of what has been learned from 40 years of a public\n     health effort against smoking, from the early trial-and-\n     error health information campaigns of the 1960s to the NCI's\n     science-based project, American Stop Smoking Intervention\n     Study for Cancer Prevention, which began in 1991.  It offers\n     reasons why comprehensive smoking control strategies are now\n     needed to address the smoker's total environment and to\n     reduce smoking prevalence significantly over the next\n     decade.\n \n \nMATERIALS FOR OUTREACH PROGRAMS\n \n     CANCER PREVENTION AND EARLY DETECTION:  COMMUNITY OUTREACH\n     PROGRAMS FOR HEALTH PROFESSIONALS\n \n        Three kits are available for community program planners\n        and health professionals to set up local cancer\n        prevention and early detection education projects:\n \n           DO THE RIGHT THING. . . GET A NEW ATTITUDE ABOUT\n           CANCER COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAM.  This community\n           outreach kit targets Black American audiences.  It\n           contains materials to help health professionals\n           conduct community education programs for black\n           audiences.  The kit emphasizes the early detection of\n           breast cancer by mammography and of cervical cancer by\n           the Pap test.  It also discusses smoking and\n           nutrition.  The kit includes helpful program guidance,\n           facts, news articles, visuals, and brochures.\n \n           HAGALO HOY COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAM.  This community\n           outreach kit targets Hispanic audiences.  It contains\n           bilingual and Spanish language materials to help\n           health professionals conduct community education\n           programs.  The materials educate Hispanic audiences\n           about early detection of breast cancer by mammography\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 26\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n           and of cervical cancer by Pap tests.  The kit also\n           discusses smoking and related issues.  The kit\n           includes helpful guidance, facts, news articles,\n           visuals and brochures.\n \n           ONCE A YEAR..FOR A LIFETIME COMMUNITY OUTREACH\n           MAMMOGRAPHY PROGRAM.  This community outreach kit\n           targets all women age 40 or over.  It supplies\n           community program planners and health professionals\n           with planning guidance, facts about mammography, news\n           articles, visuals and brochures.\n \n \n     MAKING HEALTH COMMUNICATION PROGRAMS WORK: A PLANNER'S GUIDE\n     (92-1493).  This handbook presents key principles and steps\n     in developing and evaluating health communications programs\n     for the public, patients, and health professionals.  It\n     expands upon and replaces \"Pretesting in Health\n     Communications\" and \"Making PSAs Work.\" 131 pages.\n \n     SUPPORT MATERIAL FOR COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAMS\n \n     The video and slide presentations listed below support the\n     mammography outreach programs.\n \n        ONCE A YEAR...FOR A LIFETIME VIDEOTAPE.  This 5-minute\n        VHS videotape uses a dramatic format to highlight the\n        important facts about the early detection of breast\n        cancer by mammography.\n \n        UNA VEZ AL ANO...PARA TODA UNA VIDA VIDEOTAPE.  This 27-\n        minute Spanish videotape informs Spanish-speaking women\n        of the need for medical screening, particularly\n        mammography.  It explains commonly misunderstood facts\n        about breast cancer and early detection.  The program, in\n        a dramatic format, features Edward James Olmos and\n        Cristina Saralegui.\n \n        ONCE A YEAR...FOR A LIFETIME SPEAKER'S KIT (SLIDE SHOW).\n        This kit includes 66 full-color slides and a number-\n        coded, ready-to-read script suitable for a mammography\n        presentation to a large group.  It addresses the\n        misconceptions prevalent about mammography and urges\n        women age 40 and older to get regular mammograms so that\n        breast cancer can be detected as early as possible.  Kit\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 27\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n        includes a guide, poster, media announcement, news\n        feature, flyer, and pamphlets on mammography.  This kit\n        is available directly by writing to:  Modern, 5000 Park\n        Street North, St. Petersburg, FL 33709-9989.\n--------- end of part 2 ------------\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nThey are real, and we still pay licence fees to receive TV.\nThe detector vans pick up the IF, true. This tells them what channel you\nare watching. The can also pick up the line time base freq, and frame rate\n(Try it with a LW\/MW radio near telly, it picks up a sharp hum)\n\nFrom this they can even watch (poor quality though) what *you* have on the\nscreen, by picking up re radiating junk.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nThen you better pray for me, too, because I believe that the Mighty\nInvisibile Pink Unicorn does not exist. One being cannot be both \"Pink\"\nand \"Invisible.\" The demon (or should that be daemon?) that keeps me\nfrom believing and saving my soul is named Logic.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"From: Wales.Larrison@ofa123.fidonet.org\n\nIf this facility is in Kaliningrad, this is not near Moscow,\nit is in fact the ex-East Prussian Konigsberg, now a Russian\nenclave on the Baltic coast.  It is served by ships and rail, \nand the intrepid traveller in Europe would find it accessible \nand might even want to try to arrange a tour (??).\n\n* Fred Baube (tm)         *  In times of intellectual ferment,\n* baube@optiplan.fi       * advantage to him with the intellect\n* #include <disclaimer.h> * most fermented\n* May '68, Paris: It's Retrospective Time !!  ","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Excerpt From: rek@siss81 (Robert Kaye)\n\n:Just a few contributions from the space program to \"regular\" society:\n:\n:1.\tCalculators\n:2.\tTeflon (So your eggs don't stick in the pan)\n:3.\tPacemakers (Kept my grandfather alive from 1976 until 1988)\n\n                    Don't forget Tang!  ::smile::","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I have an internal modem that I configure as COM4 with IRQ 3, but\nwhen I insert that card into my DOS 5.02 PC, it shows up\nas COM3, with IRQ3 and COM4's address (2E8)!\n\nWhen I get into debug, and dump the data at 40:0, it shows\nthe address 2E8 as belonging to COM3 - even though the modem\nshould be at COM4.\n\nNow, I know the modem is working correctly since I have tested\nit in a different PC - and it shows up correctly as COM4, 2E8, IRQ3.\n\nTo make it work in the DOS 5.02 PC, I have to configure the\nmodem as COM3, 2E8, IRQ3---but though I have a comm program that\nallows that, the FAX program that came with the modem does not work.\nAnyway, I would like the computer to display the modem as it is set,\nas COM4...\nI did run a few diagnostic programs, and they did not help at all:\na few displayed the modem as COM4, and others displayed it as\nbeing COM3.\n\nI am not using Windows, this is just a DOS problem...Any help\nor pointers appreciated....\nFor various reasons, I must have this modem work at COM4, thus\nswitching COM ports is not an answer...\n\n(Last time I posted this, I did not get any DOS specific answer,\nthis time I have included all the specific information....please help!)\n\n-----\nAvinash Chopde\navinash@acm.org","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nDavid,\n\n  While I disagree strongly with you on the issue of our trusting the government,\nI think you have a good idea here. There is danger that, with funding coming\nfrom asset forfeitures, the government could continue to promulgate a bad\nproduct in spite of poor acceptance. Making the product pay its way (as\nit must for private ventures) would be a good incentive for quality and\nlistening to we, the ranters. :)\n\n  -mel","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nYes. It's called RADAR.\n\n\nDepends on the environment: in a static environent such as a waveguide yes, in\na dynamic environment (with objects moving about) the multipath kills this\nconcept.\n\n\nWhat is the difference between vertical and horizontal?\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I need to find how to program the WD7000 FAAST SCSI controller (A 16 bit DMA\nSCSI controller for the PC (ISA bus)). Can somebody point me in the direction\nof some low level docs on the net? Or will I have to get hold of the\nmanufacturers? Who did actually make this anyway? Who will have the docs?\n\nTIA.\n\nPS> I don't ant the BIOS docs, I want to know how to attack this sucker from\nthe ground level (ie send my own SCSI commands out it from OS\/2)\n\n-- \nHamish Marson, Computer Services, University of Waikato|\nhamish@waikato.ac.nz.  Fax +64 7 8384066               | Computers are only \nDisclaimer: Remember. You heard it here first!         |   Human.....","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nCan you tell us more?","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"   Is English (American, Canadian, etc.) common law recognized as\nlegally binding under international law?  After all, we're talking about\nsomething that by its very nature isn't limited to the territory of one\nnation.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":": That more or less says it.  I flicked the Penguins game on briefly and saw\n: Ulf cross-check Valeri in the face.  I am wondering if Don Cherry is going to\n: go off on this at all in coach's corner.\n\nAnd that was the ONLY infraction of this type in the game. \nCome on! Wake up! Geez He's not the only player who does this\nsort of thing. I think we were kind of lucky. The game was not\nreally all that \"chippy\" considering the state NJ is in about\nnow.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Greetings automobile enthusiasts.  Can anyone tell me if there is\na mail order company that sells BMW parts discounted... cheaper than\nthe dealerships.\n\nSorry if it's a FAQ. email replies very much appreciated.\n\nThanks,","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
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Sum\nJTM@ucsfvm.ucsf.edu                          John Maynard\njulien@skcla.monsanto.com\nkaminski@netcom.com                          Peter Kaminski\nkerry@citr.uq.oz.au                          Kerry Raymond\nkieran@world.std.com                         Aaron L. Dickey\nkolar@spot.Colorado.EDU                      Jennifer Lynn Kolar\nkriguer@tcs.com                              Marc Kriguer\nlaurie@LONEXA.ADMIN.RL.AF.MIL                Laurie J. Key\nlee@hal.com                                  Lee Boylan\nlmt6@po.cwru.edu                             Lia M. Treffman\nlunie@Lehigh.EDU\nlusgr@chili.CC.Lehigh.EDU                    Stephen G. Roseman\nM.Beamish@ins.gu.edu.au                      Marilyn Beamish\nM.Rich@ens.gu.edu.au                         Maurice H. Rich\nmaas@cdfsga.fnal.gov                         Peter Maas\nmarilyn@LONEXA.ADMIN.RL.AF.MIL               Marilyn M. Tucker\nmarkv@hpvcivm.vcd.hp.com                     Mark Vanderford\nMASCHLER@vms.huji.ac.il                      Michael Maschler\nmcb@net.bio.net                              Michael C. Berch\nmcday@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu                       Marrianne C. Day\nmcookson@flute.calpoly.edu\nmelynda@titipu.resun.com                     Melynda Reid\nmfc@isr.harvard.edu                          Mauricio F. Contreras\nmg@wpi.edu                                   Martha Gunnarson\nmhollowa@libserv1.ic.sunysb.edu              Michael Holloway\nmisha@abacus.concordia.ca                    Misha Glouberman \nmjb@cs.brown.edu                             Manish Butte\nMOFLNGAN@vax1.tcd.ie                         Margaret O' Flanagan\nmuir@idiom.berkeley.ca.us                    David Muir Sharnoff\nN.D.Treby@southampton.ac.uk                  N. D. Treby\nN.J.C.Hookey@durham.ac.uk                    N. J. C. Hookey\nNancy.Block@Eng.Sun.COM                      Nancy Block\nndallen@r-node.hub.org                       Nigel Allen\nnlemur@eecs.umich.edu                        Nigel Lemur\nnlr@B31.nei.nih.gov                          Nathan Rohrer\npams@hpfcmp.fc.hp.com                        Pam Sullivan\npapresco@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca         Paul Prescod\npaslowp@cs.rpi.edu                           Pam Paslow\nphil@unet.umn.edu                            Phil Lindberg\npillinc@gov.on.ca                            Christopher Pilling\npkane@cisco.com                              Peter Kane\npmmuggli@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu               Pauline Muggli\npopelka@odysseus.uchicago.edu                Glenn Popelka\npulkka@cs.washington.edu                     Aaron Pulkka\npwatkins@med.unc.edu                         Pat Watkins\nrbnsn@mosaic.shearson.com                    Ken Robinson\nrmasten@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu            Roger Masten\nrobyn@media.mit.edu                          Robyn Kozierok\nrolf@green.mathematik.uni-stuttgart.de       Rolf Schreiber\nsageman@cup.portal.com\nsasjcs@unx.sas.com                           Joan Stout\nsca@space.physics.uiowa.edu                  Scott Allendorf\nSCOTTJOR@delphi.com\nscrl@hplb.hpl.hp.com\nscs@vectis.demon.co.uk                       Stuart C. Squibb\nshan@techops.cray.com                        Sharan Kalwani\nsharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com              Sharen A. Rund\nshazam@unh.edu                               Matthew T. Thompson\nshipman@csab.larc.nasa.gov                   Floyd S. Shipman\nshoppa@ERIN.CALTECH.EDU                      Tim Shoppa\nsjsmith@cs.UMD.EDU                           Stephen Joseph Smith\nslillie@cs1.bradley.edu                      Susan Lillie\nsteveo@world.std.com                         Steven W. Orr\nsurendar@ivy.WPI.EDU                         Surendar Chandra\nswkirch@sun6850.nrl.navy.mil                 Steven Kirchoefer\nS_FAGAN@twu.edu                              Liz Fagan\nTARYN@ARIZVM1.ccit.arizona.edu               Taryn L. Westergaard\nThomas.E.Taylor@gagme.chi.il.us              Thomas E. Taylor\ntima@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM                     Timothy D. 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The purpose of misc.health.diabetes is to provide a forum for the\ndiscussion of issues pertaining to diabetes management, i.e.: diet,\nactivities, medicine schedules, blood glucose control, exercise,\nmedical breakthroughs, etc.  This group addresses the issues of\nmanagement of both Type I (insulin dependent) and Type II (non-insulin\ndependent) diabetes.  Both technical discussions and general support\ndiscussions relevant to diabetes are welcome.\n \n2.   Postings to misc.heath.diabetes are intended to be for discussion\npurposes only, and are in no way to be construed as medical advice.\nDiabetes is a serious medical condition requiring direct supervision\nby a primary health care physician.  \n \n-----(end of charter)-----","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nEr, people are going to make personal attacks on Prof. Denning whether she\nposts here or not.  That much should be obvious from looking at the traffic\nover the last few weeks.  Therefore I conclude that the existence of personal\nattacks is irrelevant to any decision concerning whether to post.\n\nI suspect that Prof. Denning is actually using the attacks as an excuse for\nnot posting, and that the real reason for the silence is that Clipper is not\nthe sort of proposal any self-respecting cryptographer can support via\nreasoned argument.\n\n\nmathew","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nyodicet>\nyodicet>\nyodicet>\n\nHmm. You don't say..\n\nL.\n\"Yeh, Buddy..            | larry@psl.nmsu.edu (Larry Cunningham)|  _~~_\n I've got your COMPUTER! | % Physical Science Laboratory        | (O)(-)\n Right HERE!!\"           | New Mexico State University          |  \/..\\ \n (computer THIS!)        | Las Cruces, New Mexico, USA 88003    |   <> ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"So what is your definition of \"interfering with the fielder taking the throw\"?\n\nThe rule book certainly doesn't have a definiton or clarification, so it's\npossible to interpret the rule as saying that if the catcher has to alter\nhis throw to avoid hitting the batter-runner, then again we have interference.\nYou know, it seems that there is no way to apply this rule justly--if the\ncatcher (or the pitcher, say Rob Dibble, for example) throws toward first\nand hits the runner running inside the baseline, the fielder takes the chance\nof being ejected.  Therefore he probably would throw around the runner or\n(your scenario) above him.\n\nYou should note that in our American Legion League, (which uses MLB rules) we\ninterpret the rule to say in this very circumstance there IS interference\nper rule 7.09.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nIn this morning's paper (or was it on the radio?), Vizquel was quoted as\nsaying that he could have fielded the ball with his glove and still\neasily thrown out Riles, that he barehanded it instead so as to make the\nfinal play more memorable.  Seems a litle cocky to me, but he made it\nwork so he's entitled.\n-- \nDoug Dudgeon                             Dept. of Chemical Engineering, BF-10\ndudgeon@opus.cheme.washington.edu        University of Washington, Seattle","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"eyes?\n\nBy looking at the iris (iridology) - virtually nothing.\n\nLooking at the retina allows one to visualise the small blood\nvessels and is helpful in assessing various systemic diseases,\nhypertension and diabetes for example.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I saw an imaging program some time ago on an Amiga that had\nCross, Sobel and Roberts filters for edge detection. \n\nCan anybody direct me to these algorithms.\n\nPaul Denize\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\nPaul Denize                                Internet: PDenize@Waikato.ac.nz\nDepartment of Computer Science\nUniversity of Waikato                         phone: ++64 7 8562-889\nHamilton                                                          Ext 8743\nNEW ZEALAND                                   fax  : ++64 7 8560-135","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nHowever, he said on his radio show today that he won't read anything\nfrom the two alt groups. He simply deletes them without reading them. He\nsays that some of the people in the two groups are vicious.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"alt.religion.spam?\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Archive-name: graphics\/resources-list\/part3\nLast-modified: 1993\/04\/27\n\n\nComputer Graphics Resource Listing : WEEKLY POSTING [ PART 3\/3 ]\n===================================================\nLast Change : 27 April 1993\n\n\n11. Scene generators\/geographical data\/Maps\/Data files\n======================================================\n\nDEMs (Digital Elevation Models)\n-------------------------------\n  DEMs (Digital Elevation Models) as well as other cartographic data\n  [huge] is available from spectrum.xerox.com [192.70.225.78], \/pub\/map.\n\n  Contact:\n  Lee Moore -- Webster Research Center, Xerox Corp. --\n  Voice: +1 (716) 422 2496\n  Arpa, Internet:  Moore.Wbst128@Xerox.Com\n[ Check also on ncgia.ucsb.edu (128.111.254.105), \/pub\/dems -- nfotis ]\n\n  Many of these files are also available on CD-ROM selled by USGS:\n  \"1:2,000,000 scale  Digital Line Graph (DLG) Data\". Contains datas\n  for all 50 states. Price is about $28, call to or visit in offices\n  in Menlo Park, in Reston, Virginia (800-USA-MAPS).\n\n  The Data User Services Division of the Bureau of the Census also has\n  data on CD-ROM (TSO standard format) that is derived from USGS\n  1:100,000 map data. Call (301) 763-4100 for more info or they have\n  a BBS at (301) 763-1568.\n\n[ From Dr.Dobbs #198 March 1993: ]\n\n      \"The U.S. Defense Mapping Agency, in cooperation with their counterpart\nagencies in CANADA, the U.K., and Australia, have released the Digital Chart\nof the World (DCW). This chart consists of over 1.5 gigabytes of reasonable\nquality vector data distributed on four CD-ROMS. .... includes coastlines,\nrivers, roads, railrays, airports,cities, towns, spot elevations, and depths,\nand over 100,000 place names.\"\n\nIt is ISO9660 compatible and only $200.00 available from:\n\nU.S. Geological Survey\nP.O. Box 25286\nDenver Federal Center\nDenver, CO 80225\n\nDigital Distribution Services\nEnergy, Mines, and Resources Canada\n615 Booth Street\nOttawa, ON\nK1A 0E9 Canada\n\nDirector General of Military Survey\n(Survey 3)\nElmwood Avenue\nFeltham, Middlesex\nTW13 7AH United Kingdom\n\nDirector of Survey, Australian Army\nDepartment of Defense\nCampbell Park Offices (CP2-4-24)\nCampbell ACT 2601 Australia\n\n\nFractal Landscape Generators\n----------------------------\n\nPublic Domain:\n\n  Many people have written fractal landscape generators. for example\n  for the Mac some of these generators were written by\n  pdbourke@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Paul D. Bourke).\n  Many of the programs are available from the FTP sites and mail\n  archive servers. Check with Archie.\n\nCommercial:\n\n  Vista Pro 3.0 for the Amiga from Virtual Reality Labs -- list price\n  is about $100. Their address is:\n\tVRL\n\t2341 Ganador court\n\tSan Luis Obispo,\n\tCA 93401\n\tTelephone or FAX (805) 545-8515\n\n  Scenery Animator (also for the Amiga) is of the same caliber with Vista Pro 2.\n  Check with:\n\tNatural Graphics\n\tP.O. Box 1963\n\tRaklin, CA 95677\n\tPhone (916) 624-1436\n\n  Don't forget to ask about companion programs and data disks\/tapes.\n\n  Vista Pro 3 has been ported to the PCs.\n\n\nCIA World Map II\n----------------\n[  NOTE: this database is quite out of date, and not topologically structured.\n  If you need a standard for world cartographic data, wait for the\n  Digital Chart of the World. This 1:1M database has been produced from\n  the Defense Mapping Agency's ONCs and will be available, together with\n  searching and viewing software, on a number of CD-ROMs later this summer. ]\n\n  Check into HANAUMA.STANFORD.EDU and UCSD.EDU (see ftp list above)\n  The CIA database consists of coastlines, rivers and political boundaries\n  in the form of line strokes. Also on hanauma.stanford.edu is a 720x360\n  array of elevation data, containing one ieee floating point number for\n  every half degree longitude and latitude.\n \n  A program for decoding the database, mfil, can be found on the machine\n  pi1.arc.umn.edu (137.66.130.11).\n  There's another program, which reads a compressed CIA Data Bank file and\n  builds a PHIGS hierachical structure. It uses a PHIGS extension known as\n  polyline sets for performance, but you can use regular polylines. Ask\n  Joe Stewart <joes@lpi.liant.com>.\n  The raw data at Stanford require the vplot package to be able to view it.\n  (was posted in comp.sources.unix). To be more exact, you'll have to\n  compile just the libvplot routines, not the whole package.\n\nNCAR data\n---------\n  NCAR (National Center for Atmospheric Research) has many types of\n  terrain  data, ranging from elevation datasets at\n  various resolutions, to information about soil types, vegetation, etc.\n  This data is not free -- they charge from $40 to $90 or more, depending\n  on the data volume and media (exabyte tape, 3480 cartridge, 9-track tape,\n  IBM PC floppy, and FTP transfer are all available).  Their data archive\n  is mostly research oriented, not hobbyist oriented.  For more information,\n  email to ilana@ncar.ucar.edu.\n\nUNC data tapes with voxel data\n--------------\n  There are 2 \"public domain\" tapes with data for the comparison and\n  testing of various volume rendering algorithms (mainly MRI and CT\n  scans). These tapes are distributed by the SoftLab of UNC @ Chapel Hill.\n  (softlab@cs.unc.edu)\n\n  The data sets (volume I and II) are also available via anonymous FTP from\n  omicron.cs.unc.edu [128.109.136.159] in pub\/softlab\/CHVRTD\n\nNASA\n----\n  Many US agencies such as NASA publish CD-ROMs with many altimetry data\n  from various space missions, eg. Viking for Mars, Magellan for Venus,\n  etc. Especially for NASA, I would suggest to call the following\n  address for more info:\n\n     National Space Science Date Center\n     Goddard Space Flight Center\n     Greenbelt, Maryland 20771\n     Telephone: (301) 286-6695\n     Email address:  request@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov\n\n  The data catalog (*not* the data itself) is available online.\n  Internet users can telnet to nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (128.183.10.4) and log\n  in as 'NODIS' (no password).\n\n  You can also dial in at (301)-286-9000 (300, 1200, or 2400 baud, 8 bits,\n  no parity, one stop). At the \"Enter Number:\" prompt, enter MD and\n  carriage return. When the system responds \"Call Complete,\" enter a few\n  more carriage returns to get the \"Username:\" and log in as 'NODIS' (no\n  password).\n\n  NSSDCA is also an anonymous FTP site, but no comprehensive list of\n  what's there is available at present.\n\nEarth Sciences Data\n-------------------\n\n  There's a listing of anonymous FTP sites for earth science data, including\n  imagery. This listing is called \"Earth Sciences Resources on Internet\",\n  and you can get it via anonymous FTP from csn.org [128.138.213.21]\n  in the directory COGS under the name \"internet.resources.earth.sci\"\n\n  Some sites include:\n  aurelie.soest.hawaii.edu [128.171.151.121]: pub\/avhrr\/images - AVHRR images\n  ames.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.18.3]: pub\/SPACE\/CDROM  - images from\n        Magellan and Viking missions etc.\n        pub\/SPACE\/Index contains a listing of files available in the whole\n        archive (the index is about 200K by itself). There's also an\n        e-mail server for the people without Internet access: send a letter\n        to archive-server@ames.arc.nasa.gov (or ames!archive-server). In the\n        subject of your letter (or in the body), use commands like:\n\n        send SPACE Index\n        send SPACE SHUTTLE\/ss01.23.91\n\n        (Capitalization is important! Only text files are handled by the\n        email server at present)\n\n  vab02.larc.nasa.gov [128.155.23.47]: pub\/gifs\/misc\/landsat -\n\tLandsat photos in GIF and JPEG format\n[ It was shut down - nfotis; anyone has a copy of this archive?? ]\n\nOthers\n------\n  Daily values of river discharge, streamflow, and daily weather data is\n  available from EarthInfo, 5541 Central Ave., Boulder CO  80301.  These\n  disks are expensive, around $500, but there are quantity discounts.\n  (303) 938-1788.\n\n  Check vmd.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.98], the wx directory carries\n  data regarding surface analysis, weather radar, and sat view pics in\n  GIF format (updated hourly)\n\n  pioneer.unm.edu [129.24.9.217] is the Space and Planetary Image Facility\n  (located on the University of New Mexico campus) FTP server. It provides\n  Anonymous FTP access to >150 CD-ROMS  with data\/images.\n\n  A disk with earthquake data, topography, gravity, geopolitical info\n  is available from NGDC (National Geophysical Data Center), 325 Broadway,\n  Boulder, CO  80303.  (303) 497-6958.\n\n  EOSAT (at least in the US) now sells Landsat MSS data older than two years\n  old for $200 per scene, and they have been talking about a similar deal\n  for Landsat TM data. The MSS data are 4 bands, 80 meter resolution.\n\n  Check out anonymous FTP to ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu in\n  UNIX\/PolyView\/alpha-shape for a tool that creates convex hulls\n  alpha-shapes (a generalization of the convex hull) from 3D point sets.\n\n  The GRIPS II (Gov. Raster Image Processing Software) CD-ROM\n  is available from CD-ROM Inc. at 1-800-821-5245 for $49.\n  Code for viewing ADRG (Arc Digitised Raster Graphics) files is\n  available on the GRIPS II CD-ROM. The U.S. Army Engineer \n  Topographic Labs (Juan Perez) code is also available via FTP\n  ( adrg.zip archive in  spectrum.xerox.com )\n\nNRCC range data\n---------------\n  Rioux M., Cournoyer L. \"The NRCC Three-Dimensional Image Data Files\",\n  Tech. Report, CNRC 29077, National Research Council Canada,\n  Ottawa, Canada, 1988\n  [ From what I understand, these data are from a laser range finder,\n   and you can a copy for research purposes ]\n\n==========================================================================\n\n12. 3D scanners - Digitized 3D Data\n===================================\n\na. Cyberware Labs, Monterey, CA, manufactures a 3D color laser digitizer\n  which can be used to model parts of, or a complete, human body.\n  They run a service bureau also, so they can digitize models for you.\n\n  Address:\n    Cyberware Labs, Inc\n    8 Harris Ct, Suite 3D\n    Monterey, CA 93940\n  Phone: (408)373-1441, Fax: (408)373-3582\n\nb. Polhemus makes a 6D input device (actually a couple of models)\n  that senses position (3D) and *orientation* (+3D) based on electromagnetic\n  field interference.  This equipment is also incorporated in the\n  VPL Dataglove.\n  This hardware is also called ISOTRACK, from Keiser Aerospace.\n\nAscension Technology makes a similar 3D input device.\nThere is a company, Applied Sciences(?), that makes a 3D input\ndevice (position only) based on speed of sound triangulation.\n\nc. A company that specializes in digitizing is Viewpoint. You can ask\n   for Viewpoint's _free_ 100 page catalog full of ready to \n   ship datasets from categories such as cars, anatomy, aircraft,sports,\n   boats, trains, animals and others. Though these objects are\n   quite expensive, the cataloge is nevertheless of interest for it\n   has pictures of all the available objects in wireframe , polygon mesh.\n\n  Contact:\n\n  Viewpoint,\n  870 West Center,\n  Orem, Utah 84057\n  ph# 801-224-2222\n  fax# 801-224-2272\n  1-800-DATASET\n\n------\n\n  Some addresses for companies that make digitizers:\n\n  Ascension Technology\n  Bird, Flock of Birds, Big Bird: 6d trackers\n  P.O. Box 527,\n  Burlington, VT 05402\n  Phone: (802) 655-7879, Fax: (802) 655-5904\n\n  Polhemus Incorporated\n  Digitizer: 6d trackers\n  P.O. Box 560, Hercules Dr.\n  Colchester, Vt. 05446\n  Tel: (802) 655-3159\n\n  Logitech Inc.\n  Red Baron, ultrasonic 6D mouse\n  6506 Kaiser Dr.\n  Freemont, CA 94555\n  Tel: (415) 795-8500w\n\n  Shooting Star Technology\n  Mechanical Headtracker\n  1921 Holdom Ave.\n  Burnaby, B.C. Canada V5B 3W4\n  Tel: (604) 298-8574\n  Fax: (604) 298-8580\n\n  Spaceball Technologies, Inc.\n  Spaceball: 6d stationary input device\n  600 Suffolk Street\n  Lowell, MA, 01854\n  Tel: (508) 970-0330 \n  Fax: (508) 970-0199\n  Tel in Mountain View: (415) 966-8123 \n\n  Transfinite Systems \n  Gold Brick: PowerGlove for Macintosh\n  P.O. Box N\n  MIT Branch Post Office\n  Cambridge, MA 02139-0903\n  Tel: (617) 969-9570\n  email: D2002@AppleLink.Apple.com\n\n  VPL Research, Inc.\n  EyePhone: head-mounted display\n  DataGlove: glove\/hand input device\n  VPL Research Inc.\n  950 Tower Lane\n  14th Floor\n  Foster City, CA 94404\n  Tel: (415) 312-0200\n  Fax: (415) 312-9356\n\n  SimGraphics Engineering\n  Flying Mouse: 6d input device\n  1137 Huntington Rd. Suite A-1\n  South Pasadena, CA 91030-4563\n  (213) 255-0900\n\n========================================================================\n\n13. Background imagery\/textures\/datafiles\n=========================================\n\n First, check in the FTP places that are mentioned in the FAQ or in the FTP\nlist above.\n\n24-bit scanning:\n----------------\n  Get a good 24-bit scanner, like Epson's. Suggested is an SCSI port for\n  speed. Eric Haines had a suggestion in RT News, Volume 4, #3 :\n  scan textures for wallpapers and floor coverings, etc. from doll\n  house supplies.\n  So you have a rather cheap way to scan patterns that don't have\n  scaling troubles associated with real materials and scanning area.\n\nBooks with textures:\n--------------------\n  Find some houses\/books\/magazines that carry photographic material.\n  Educorp, 1-619-536-9999, sells CD-ROMS with various imagery - also\n  a wide variety of stock art is available.\n  Stock art from big-name stock art houses, such as Comstock,\n  UNIPHOTO, and Metro Image Base, is available.\n\n  In Italy, there's a company called Belvedere that makes such books\n  for the purpose of clipping their pages for inclusion in your\n  graphics work. Their address is:\n\tEdition Belvedere Co. Ltd.,\n\t00196 Rome Italy,\n\tPiazzale Flaminio, 19\n\tTel. (06) 360-44-88, Fax (06)  360-29-60\n\nTexture Libraries:\n------------------\na. Mannikin Sceptre Graphics announced TexTiles, a set of 256x256 24-bit\n   textures. Initial shipments in 24-bit IFF (for Amigas), soon in 24-bit\n   TIFF format. Algorithmically built for tiled surfaces. SRP is $40 \/ volume\n   (each volume = 40 images @ 10 disks). Demo disks for $5 are available.\n\n   Contact:\n   Mannikin Sceptre Graphics\n   1600 Indiana Ave.\n   Winter Park, FL 32789\n   Phone: (407) 384-9484\n   FAX: (407) 647-7242\n\nb. ESSENCE is a library of 65 (sixty-five) new algoritmic textures for Imagine\n   by Impulse, Inc. These textures are FULLY compatible with the floating point\n   versions of Imagine 2.0, Imagine 1.1, and even Turbo Silver.\n   Written by Steve Worley.\n\n   For more info contact:\n   Essence Info\n   Apex Software Publishing\n   405 El Camino Real Suite 121\n   Menlo Park CA 94025 USA\n\n[ What about Texture City ?? ]\n\n==========================================================================\n\n14. Introduction to rendering algorithms\n========================================\n\na. Ray-Tracing:\n---------------\n\n  I assume you have a general understanding of Computer Graphics. No? Then read\n  some of the books that the FAQ contains. For Ray-Tracing, I would\n  suggest:\n   An Introduction to Ray Tracing, Andrew Glassner (ed.), Academic Press\n     1989, ISBN 0-12-286160-4\n  Note that I have not read the book, but I feel that you can't be wrong\n  using his book. An errata list was posted in comp.graphics by Eric Haines\n  (erich@eye.com)\n\nThere's a more concise reference also:\n\n  Roman Kuchkuda , UNC @ Chapel Hill: \"An Introduction to Ray Tracing\", in\n  \"Theoretical Foundations for Computer Graphics and CAD\", ed. R.A.E.Earnshaw,\n  NATO AS, Vol. F-40., pp. 1039-1060. Printed by Springer-Verlag, 1988.\n\nIt contains code for a small, but fundamentally complete ray-tracer.\n\nb. Z-buffer (depth-buffer)\n--------------------------\n\nA good reference is:\n\n        _Procedural Elements for Computer Graphics_, David F. Rogers,\n        McGraw-Hill, New York, 1985, pages 265-272 and 280-284.\n\nc. Others:\n----------\n???\n[ More info is needed -- nfotis ]\n\n========================================================================\n\n15. Where can I find the geometric data for the:\n================================================\n\na. Teapot ?\n-----------\n\n\"Displays on Display\" column of IEEE CG&A Jan '87 has the whole\nstory about origin of the Martin Newell's teapot. The article also has\nthe bezier patch model and a Pascal program to display the wireframe\nmodel of the teapot.\n\nIEEE CG&A Sep '87 in Jim Blinn's column \"Jim Blinn's Corner\" describes\nan another way to model the teapot; Bezier curves with rotations for\nexample are used.\n\nThe OFF and SPD packages have these objects, so you're advised to get\nthem to avoid typing the data yourself.  The OFF data is triangles at\na specific resolution (around 8x8[x4 triangles] meshing per patch).\nThe SPD package provides the spline patch descriptions and performs a\ntessellation at any specified resolution.\n\nb. Space Shuttle ?\n------------------\n\nTolis Lerios <tolis@nova.stanford.edu> has built a list of Space Shuttle\ndatafiles. Here's a summary (From his sci.space list):\n\nmodel1:\nA modified version of the newsgroup model (model2)\n\n406 vertices (296 useful, i.e. referred to in the polygon descriptions.)\n389 polygons (233 3-vertex, 146 4-vertex, 7 5-vertex, 3 6-vertex).\nPayload doors non-existent.\nUnits: unknown.\n\nSimon Marshall (S.Marshall@sequent.cc.hull.ac.uk) has a copy. He\nsaid there is no proprietary information associated with it.\n\nmodel2:\nThe newsgroup model, in OFF format. You can find it in\n\ngondwana.ecr.mu.oz.au , file pub\/off\/objects\/shuttle.geo\nhanauma.stanford.edu ,  \/pub\/graphics\/Comp.graphics\/objects\/shuttle.data\n\nmodel3:\nThe triangles' model.\n\nThis model is stored in several files, each defining portions of the model.\n\nGreg Henderson (henders@infonode.ingr.com) has a copy.  He did\nnot mention any restriction on the model's distribution.\n\nmodel4:\nThe NASA model.\n\nThe file starts off with a header line containing three real numbers,\ndefining the offsets used by Lockheed in their simulations:\n\n<x offset> <y offset> <z offset>\n\nFrom then on, the file consists of a sequence of polygon descriptions\n\n3473 vertices.\n2748 polygons (407 3-vertex, 2268 4-vertex, 33 5-vertex, 14 6-vertex,\n 10 7-vertex, 8 8-vertex, 8 12-vertex, 2 13-vertex, 2 15-vertex,\n 17 16-vertex, 2 17-vertex, 2 18-vertex, 3 19-vertex, 8 24-vertex).\nPayload doors closed.\nUnits: inches.\n\nJon Berndt (jon@l14h11.jsc.nasa.gov) seems to be responsible for the model\nProprietary info: unknown\n\nmodel5:\nThe old shuttle model.\n\nThe file consists of a sequence of polygon descriptions.\n\n104 vertices.\n452 polygons (11 3-vertex, 41 4-vertex).\nPayload doors open.\nUnits: meters.\n\nWe have been using this model at STAR Labs, Stanford University, for\nsome years now. Contact me (tolis@nova.stanford.edu) or my supervisor\nScott Williams (scott@star5.stanford.edu) if you want a copy.\n\n========================================================================\n\n16. Image annotation software\n=============================\n\na. Touchup runs in Sunview and is pretty good.  It reads in\n  rasterfiles, but even if your image isn't normally stored\n  in rasterfile format you could use screendump to make it a\n  rasterfile.\n\nb. Idraw (part of Stanford's InterViews distribution) can handle some\n  image formats in addition to being a MacDraw like tool.  I'm not\n  sure exactly what they are.\n  You can ftp the idraw's binary from interviews.stanford.edu.\n\nc. Tgif is another MacDraw like tool that can handle X11 bitmap (xbm)\n  and X11 pixmap (xpm) formats.  If the image you have is in formats\n  other than xbm or xpm, you can get the pbmplus toolkit to convert\n  things like gif or even some Macintosh formats to xpm.\n  Tgif's sources are available in the pub directory on cs.ucla.edu\n  (Version 2.12 of tgif at patchlevel 7 plus patch8 and patch9)\n\nd. Use the editimage facility of KHOROS (see below).\n  This is just one utility in the overall system- you can essentially do all\n  your image processing and macdraw-type graphics using this package.\n\ne. You might be able to get by with PBMPlus.  pbmtext gives you text output\n  bitmaps which can be overlaid on top of your image.\n\nf. 'ice' requires Sun hardware running OpenWindows 3.It's a PostScript-based\n  graphical editor,and it's available for anonymous ftp from Internet host\n  eo.soest.hawaii.edu (128.171.151.12). Requires Sun C++ 2.0 and\n  two other locally developed packages, the LXT library (an Xlib-based\n  toolkit) and a small C++ class library. All files (pub\/ice.tar.Z,\n  pub\/lxt.tar.Z and pub\/ldgoc++.tar.Z) are available in compressed\n  tar format. pub\/ice.tar.Z contains a README that gives installation\n  instructions, as well as an extensive man page (ice.1).\n  A statically-linked compressed executable pub\/ice-sun4.Z for\n  SPARC systems is also available for ftp.\n\n  All software is the property of Columbia University and may not\n  be redistributed without permission.\n\n  ice means Image Composition Environment and it's an imaging tool that\n  allows raster images to be combined with a wide variety of\n  PostScript annotations in WYSIWYG fashion via X11 imaging\n  routines and NeWS PostScript rasterizing.\n\ng. Use ImageMagick to annotate an image from your X server.  Pick the \n  position of your text with the cursor and choose your font and pen \n  color from a pull-down menu.  ImageMagick can read and write many\n  of the more popular image formats.  ImageMagick is available as\n  export.lcs.mit.edu: contrib\/ImageMagick.tar.Z or at your nearest\n  X11 archive.\n\n========================================================================\n\n17. Scientific visualization stuff\n==================================\n\nX Data Slice (xds)\n-------------------\n  Bundled with the X11 distribution from MIT,\n  in the contrib directory. Available at ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.20.50]\n  (either as a source or binaries for various platforms).\n\nNational Center for Supercomputing Applications (NCSA) Tool Suite\n-----------------------------------------------------------------\n\nPlatforms: Unix Workstations (DEC, IBM, SGI, Sun)\n           Apple MacIntosh\n           Cray supercomputers\n\nAvailability: Now available.  Source code in the public domain.\n              FTP from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu.\n\nContact: National Center for Supercomputing Applications\n         Computing Applications Building\n         605 E. Springfield Ave.\n         Champaign, IL 61820\n\nCost: Free (zero dollars).\n\nThe suite includes tools for 2D image and 3D scene analysis and visualization.\nThe code is actively maintained and updated.\n\nSpyglass\n--------\n  They sell commercial versions of the NCSA tools. Examples are:\n\n\tSpyglass Dicer (3D volumetric data analysis package)\n\t\tPlatform: Mac\n\n\tSpyglass Transform (2D data analysis package)\n\t\tPlatforms: Mac, SGI, Sun, DEC, HP, IBM\n\n  Contact:\n  Spyglass, Inc.\n  P.O. Box 6388\n  Champaign, IL  61826\n  (217) 355-6000\n\nKHOROS 1.0 Patch 5\n------------------\n  Available via anonymous ftp at pprg.eece.unm.edu (129.24.24.10).\n  cd to \/pub\/khoros to see what is available. It is HUGE (> 100 MB), but good.\n  Needs Unix and X11R4. Freely copied (NOT PD), complete with sources\n  and docs. Very extensive and at its heart is visual programming.\n  Khoros components include a visual programming language, code\n  generators for extending the visual language and adding new application\n  packages to the system, an interactive user interface editor, an\n  interactive image display package, an extensive library of image and\n  signal processing routines, and 2D\/3D plotting packages.\n\n  See comp.soft-sys.khoros on Usenet and the relative FAQ for more info....\n\n  Contact:\n\n  The Khoros Group\n  Room 110 EECE Dept.\n  University of New Mexico\n  Albuquerque, NM 87131\n\n  Email: khoros-request@chama.eece.unm.edu\n\n\nMacPhase\n--------\n  Analysis & Visualization Application for the Macintosh.\n  Operates on 1D and 2D data arrays. Import\/Export several different file\n  formats.  Several different plotting options such as gray scale,\n  color raster, 3D Wire frame, 3D surface, contour, vector, line, and\n  combinations.  FFTs, filtering, and other math functions, color look up\n  editor, array calculator, etc. Shareware, available via anonymous ftp from\n  sumex-aim.stanford.edu in the info-mac\/app directory.\n  For other information contact Doug Norton (e-mail: 74017.461@@compuserve.com)\n\n\nIRIS Explorer\n-------------\n  It's an application creation system developed by Silicon\n  Graphics that provides visualisation and analysis functionality for\n  computational scientists, engineers and other scientists. The Explorer\n  GUI allows users to build custom applications without having to write\n  any, or a minimal amount of, traditonal code. Also, existing code can\n  be easily integrated into the Explorer environment. Explorer currently\n  is available now on SGI and Cray machines, but will become available on\n  other platforms in time. [ Bundled with every new SGI machine, as far as\n  I know]\n\n  See comp.graphics.explorer or comp.sys.sgi for discussion of the package.\n\n  There are also two FTP servers for related stuff, modules etc.:\n\n  ftp.epcc.ed.ac.uk [129.215.56.29]\n  swedishchef.lerc.nasa.gov [139.88.54.33] - mirror of the UK site\n\napE\n---\n  Back in the 'old good days', you could get apE for nearly free.\n  Now has gone commercial and the following vendor supplies it:\n\n  TaraVisual Corporation\n  929 Harrison Avenue\n  Columbus, Ohio 43215\n  Tel: 1-800-458-8731 and (614) 291-2912\n  Fax: (614) 291-2867\n\n        Cost:\n  $895 (plus tax); runtime version with a site-license for a single user\n  (at a time), no limit on the number of machines in a cluster.\n  $895 includes support\/maintenance and upgrades.\n  Source code more.  Additional user licenses $360.\n\n  The name of the package has become apE III (TM).\n  Khoros is very similar to apE on philosophy, as are AVS and Explorer.\n\nAVS\n---\nSee also:\n        comp.graphics.avs\n\nPlatforms: CONVEX, CRAY, DEC, Evans & Sutherland, HP, IBM, Kubota,\nSet Technologies, SGI, Stardent, SUN, Wavetracer\nAvailability: AVS4 available on all the above:\n  For all UNIX workstations.\n\nContact:\n  Advanced Visual Systems Inc.\n  300 Fifth Ave.\n  Waltham, MA    02154\n\n  (617)-890-4300   Telephone\n  (617)-890-8287   Fax\n  avs@avs.com      Email\n\n  Advanced Visual Systems Inc. for: CRAY, HP, IBM, SGI, Stardent, SUN\n  CONVEX for CONVEX\n  Advanced Visual Systems Inc. or CRAY for CRAY\n  DEC for DEC\n  Evans & Sutherland for Evans & Sutherland\n  Advanced Visual Systems Inc. or IBM for IBM\n  Kubota Pacific Inc. for Kubota\n  Set Technologies for Set Technologies\n  Wavetracer for Wavetracer\n\n  FTP Site: for modules, data sets, other info:\n\tavs.ncsc.org (128.109.178.23)\n\nWIT\n---\n  In a nutshell it's a package of the same genre as AVS,Explorer,etc.\n  It seems more a image processing system than a generic SciVi system (IMHO)\n  Major elements are:\n\n  - a visual programming language, which automatically exploits the inherent\n        parallelism\n  - a code generator which converts the graph to a standalone program\n\n  Iconified libraries present a rich set of point, filter, io, transform,\n  morphological, segmentation, and measurement operations.\n  A flow library allows graphs to employ broadcast, merge,\n  synchronization, conditional, and sequencing control strategies.\n\n  WIT delivers an object-oriented, distributed, visual programming\n  environment which allows users to rapidly design solutions to their\n  imaging problems. Users can consolidate both software and hardware\n  developments within a complete CAD-like workspace by adding their\n  own operators (C functions), objects (data structures), and servers\n  (specialized hardware). WIT runs on Sun, HP9000\/7xx, SGI and supports\n  Datacube MV-20\/200 hardware allowing you to run your graphs in real-time.\n\n  For a free WIT demo disk, call, FAX, or e-mail (poon@ee.ubc.ca)\n  us stating your complete name, address, voice, FAX, e-mail info.\n  and desired platform.\n\n  Pricing: WIT for Sparc, one yr. free upgrades, 30 days\n  technical support....................$5000 US\n\n  Academic institutions: discounts available\n\n\n  Contact:\n  Logical Vision Ltd.\n  Suite 108-3700 Gilmore Way\n  Burnaby, B.C., CANADA\n  V5G 4M1\n  Tel: 604-435-2587\n  Fax: 604-435-8840\n\n  Terry Arden <poon@ee.ubc.ca>\n\nVIS-5D\n------\n  A system for visually exploring the output of 5-D gridded data sets\n  such as those made by weather models. Platforms:\n\n    SGI IRIS with VGX, GTX, TG, or G graphics,\n    SGI Crimson or Indigo (R4000, Elan graphics suggested), IRIX 4.0.x\n    IBM RS\/6000 with GL graphics, AIX version 3 or later;\n    Stardent GS-1000 and GS-2000 (with TrueColor display)\n\n  In any case, 32 (or more) MB of RAM are suggested.\n\n  You can get it freely (thanks to NASA support) via anonymous ftp:\n\n ftp iris.ssec.wisc.edu  (or ftp 144.92.108.63), then\n\n  ftp> cd pub\/vis5d\n  ftp> ascii\n  ftp> get README\n  ftp> bye\n\n NOTE: You can find the package also on wuarchive.wustl.edu in the\n graphics\/graphics\/packages directory.\n\n  Read section 2 of the README file for full instructions\n  on how to get and install VIS-5D.\n\n  Contact:\n  Bill Hibbard (whibbard@vms.macc.wisc.edu)\n  Brian Paul (bpaul@vms.macc.wisc.edu)\n\nDATAexplorer (IBM)\n------------------\n  Platforms : IBM Risc System 6000, IBM POWER Visualization Server\n        (SIMD mesh 32 i860s, 40 MHz)\n\n  Working on (announced) : SGI, HP, Sun\n\n  Contact:\n  Your local IBM Rep.  For a trial package ask your rep to contact :\n\n  David Kilgore\n  Data Explorer Product Marketing\n  YKTVMH(KILCORE), (708) 981-4510\n\nWavefront\n---------\n  Data Visualizer, Personal Visualizer, Advanced Visualizer.\n  Platforms: SGI, SUN, IBM RS6000, HP, DEC\n\n  Availability:\n    Available on all the above platforms from Wavefront\n    Technologies.  Educational programs and site licenses are\n    available.\n\n  Contacts:\n    Mike Wilson (mike@wti.com)\n\n    Wavefront Technologies, Inc.\n    530 East Montecito Street\n    Santa Barbara, CA 93103\n    805-962-8117\n    FAX: 805-963-0410\n\n    Wavefront Europe\n    Guldenspoorstraat 21-23\n    B-9000 Gent, Belgium\n    32-91-25-45-55\n    FAX: 32-91-23-44-56\n\n    Wavefront Technologies Japan\n    17F Shinjuku-sumitomo Bldg\n    2-6-1  Nishi-shinjuku, Shunjuku-Ku\n    Tokyo 168 Japan\n    81-3-3342-7330\n   FAX 81-3-3342-7353\n\n\nPLOT3D and FAST from NASA Ames\n------------------------------\n  These packages are distributed from COSMIC at least\n  (for FAST ask Pat Elson <pelson@nas.nasa.gov> for\n  distribution information). In general, these codes are for US\n  citizens only :-(\n\nXGRAPH\n------\n  On the contrib tape of X11R5. Its specialty is display of up\n  to 64 data sets (2D).\n\nNCAR\n----\n  National Center for Atmospheric Research. One of the original graphics\n  packages. Runs on Sun, RS6000, SGI, VAX, Cray Y-MP, DecStations, and more.\n\n  Contact:\n\tGraphics Information\n\tNCAR Scientific Computing Division\n\tP.O. Box 3000\n\tBoulder, CO   80307-3000\n\t(303)-497-1201\n\tscdinfo@ncar.ucar.edu\n\n  Cost:\n\t.edu\n\t$750 Unlimited users\n\n\t.gov\n\t$750 1 user\n\t$1500 5 users\n\t$3000 25 users\n\n\t.com users multiply .gov * 2.0\n\nIDL\n---\n  An environment for scientific computing and visualization.\n  Based on an array oriented language, IDL includes 2D and 3D\n  graphics, matrix manupulation, signal and image processing,\n  basic statistics, gridding, mapping, and a widget based system\n  for building GUI for IDL applications (Open Look, Motif, or\n  MS-Windows).\n\n  Environments:  DEC (VMS and Ultrix), HP, IBM RS6000, SGI, Sun,\n          Microsoft Windows.  (Mac version in progress)\n  Cost:  $1500 to $3750, Educational and quantity discounts\n          available.\n  See also:   comp.lang.idl-pvwave (the IDL-PVWAVE bundle)\n  Contact:    Research Systems Inc.\n              777 29th Street, Suite 302\n              Boulder, CO  80303\n              Phone:  303-786-9900\n              FAX:    303-786-9909\n              E-mail: info@rsinc.com\n  Demo available via FTP.  Call or E-mail for details.\n\nIDL\/SIPS\n--------\n  \"A lot of people are using IDL with a package called SIPS. This was\n  developed at the University of Colorado (Boulder) by some people working\n  for Alex Goetz.  You might try contacting them if you already have IDL\n  or would be willing to buy it.  It's a few thousand dollars (American) I\n  expect for IDL and the other should be free.  Those are the general\n  purpose packages I've heard of, besides what TerraMar has.\n  SIPS _was_ written for AVIRIS imagery.  I'm not sure how general purpose\n  it is.  You would have to contact Goetz or one of his people and ask.  I\n  have another piece of software (PCW) that does PC and Walsh\n  transformations with pseudocoloring and clustering and limited image\n  modification (you can compute an image using selected components).  I've\n  used it on 70 megabyte AVIRIS images without problems, but for the best\n  speed you need an external DSP card.  It will work without it, but large\n  images take quite a while (50-70 times as long) to process.  That's a\n  freebie if you want it\"\n\n  \"My  favorite is IDL (Interactive Data Language) from Research Systems,\n  Inc.  IDL is in my opinion, much better and infinitely easier. Its\n  programming language is very strong and easy -- very Pascal-like. It\n  handles the number-crunching very well, also. Personally, I like doing\n  the number-crunching with IDL on the VAX (or Mathematica, Igor, or even\n  Excel on the Mac if it's not too hairy), then bringing it over to NIH\n  Image for the imaging part. I have yet to encounter any situation which\n  that combination couldn't handle, and the speed and ease of use\n  (compared to IRAF) was incredible. By the way, it's mostly astronomical\n  image processing which I've been doing. This means image enhancement,\n  cleaning up bad lines\/pixels, and some other traditional image\n  processing routines. Then, for example, taking a graph of intensity\n  versus position along a line I choose with the mouse, then doing a curve\n  fit to that line (which I might do like in KaleidaGraph.) \"\n\n[ For IDL call Research Systems , for PV-WAVE call Precision Visuals and\n for SIPS call University of Colorado @ Boulder . From what I can\n understand, you can get packaged programs from Research Systems, though\n -- nfotis ]\n\nVisual3\n-------\n  contact Robert Haimes, MIT\n\nFieldView\n---------\n An interactive program designed to assist an engineer in\n investigating fluid dynamics data sets.          \n\n Platforms:  SGI, IBM, HP, SUN, X-terminals\n\n Availability:  Currently available on all of the above\n       platforms.  Educational programs and volume \n       discounts are available.\n\n Contact:\n\n Intelligent Light \n P.O. Box 65\n Fair Lawn, NJ 07410\n (201)794-7550\n        \n Steve Kramer (kramer@ilight.com)\n\n\nSciAn\n------\n  SciAn is primarily intended to do 3-D visualizations of data in an \n  interactive environment with the ability to generate animations using\n  frame-accurate video recording devices.  A user manual, on-line help, and\n  technical notes will help you use the program.\n\n  Cost : 0 (Free), source code provided via ftp.\n  Platforms : SGI 4D machines and IBM RS\/6000 with the GL card + Z-buffer\n\n  Where to find it:\n  ftp.scri.fsu.edu [144.174.128.34] : \/pub\/SciAn\n\tA mirror is monu1.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.101] : \/pub\/SciAn\n\nSCRY\n----\n[ From the README : ]\n\n      Scry is a distributed image handling system  that  pro-\n vides image transport and compression on local and wide area\n networks, image viewing on workstations, recording on  video\n equipment,  and  storage on disk.  The system can be distri-\n buted among workstations, between supercomputers and  works-\n tations,  and between supercomputers, workstations and video\n animation controllers.  The system is most commonly used  to\n produce  video based movie displays of images resulting from\n visualization of time dependent data, complex 3D data  sets,\n and  image  processing  operations.   Both  the  clients and\n servers run on a variety of systems that provide UNIX-like C\n run-time environments, and 4BSD sockets.\n \n The source is available for anonymous ftp:\n \n csam.lbl.gov [128.3.254.6] : pub\/scry.tar.Z\n \n Contact:\n \n Bill Johnston, (wejohnston@lbl.gov, ...ucbvax!csam.lbl.gov!johnston)\n\n       or\n\n David Robertson (dwrobertson@lbl.gov, ...ucbvax!csam.lbl.gov!davidr)\n \n Imaging Technologies Group\n MS 50B\/2239\n Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory\n 1 Cyclotron Road\n Berkeley, CA  94720\n\n\nSVLIB \/ FVS\n-----------\n  SVLIB is an X-Windows widget set based on the OSF (Open Software \n  Foundation) Motif widget set. SVLIB widgets are macro-widgets \n  comprising lower level Motif widgets such as buttons, scrollbars, \n  menus, and drawing areas. It is designed to address the reusability \n  of 2D visualization routines and each widget in the library is an \n  encapsulation of a specific visualization technique such as colormap \n  manipulation, image display, and contour plotting. It is targetted\n  to run on UNIX workstations supporting OSF\/Motif. Currently, only \n  color monitors are supported. Since SVLIB is a collection of widgets \n  developed in the same spirit as the OSF\/Motif user interface widget \n  set, it integrates seamlessly with the Motif widgets. Programmers \n  using SVLIB widgets see the same interface and design as other \n  Motif widgets.\n\n  FVS is a visualization software for Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD) \n  simulations.  FVS is designed to accept data generated from these\n  simulations and apply various visualization techniques to present these\n  data graphically. \n  FVS accepts three-dimensional multi-block data recorded in NCSA HDF format.\n\n iti.gov.sg [192.122.132.130] : \/pub\/svlib (Scientific Visualization)\n      \/pu\/fvs; These directories contain demo binaries for Sun4\/SGI\n\n  Cost : US$200 for academic and US$300 for non-academic institutions.\n  (For each of the above items). You're getting the source for the licence.\n\n  Contact\n  -------\n  Miss Quek Lee Hian\n  Member of Technical Staff\n  Information Technology Institute\n  National Computer Board\n  NCB Building\n  71, Sicence Park Drive\n  Singapore 0511\n  Republic of Singapore\n  Tel : (65)7720435\n  Fax : (65)7795966\n  Email : leehian@iti.gov.sg\n\n\n---------------------------------------------------------\nGVLware Distribution:\n        Bob  - An interactive volume renderer for the SGI\n        Raz  - A disk based movie player for the SGI\n        Icol - Motif color editor\n---------------------------------------------------------\n\nThe Army High Performance Computing Research Center (AHPCRC) has been\ndeveloping a set of tools to work with large time dependent 2D and 3D\ndata sets.  In the Graphics and Visualization Lab (GVL) we are using\nthese tools along side standard packages, such as SGI Explorer and the\nUtah Raster Toolkit, to render 3D volumes and create digital movies.\nA couple of the more general purpose programs have been bundled into a\npackage called \"GVLware\".\n\nGVLware, currently consisting of Bob, Raz and Icol, is now available\nvia ftp.  The most interesting program is probably Bob, an interactive\nvolume renderer for the SGI.  Raz streams raster images from disk to\nan SGI screen, enabling movies larger than memory to be played.  Icol\nis a color map editor that works with Bob and Raz.  Source and\npre-built binaries for IRIX 4.0.5 are included.\n\nTo acquire GVLware, anonymous ftp to:\n        machine - ftp.arc.umn.edu\n        file    - \/pub\/gvl.tar.Z\n\nTo use GVLware:\n        mkdir gvl ; cd gvl\n        zcat gvl.tar.Z | tar xvf -\n        more README\n\nSome Bob features:\n        Motif interface, SGI GL rendering\n        Renders 64 cubed data set in 0.1 to 1.0 seconds on a VGX\n        Alpha Compositing and Maximum Value rendering, in perspective\n            (only Maximum Value rendering on Personal Iris)\n        Data must be a \"Brick of Bytes\", on a regularly spaced grid\n        Animation, subvolumes, subsampling, stereo\n\nSome Raz features:\n        Motif interface, SGI GL rendering\n        Loads files to a raw disk partition, then streams to screen\n            (requires an empty disk partition to be set aside)\n        Script interface available for movie sequences\n        Can stream from memory, like NCSA XImage\n        \nSome Icol features:\n        Motif interface\n        Easy to create interpolated color maps between key points\n        RGB, HSV and YUV color spaces, multiple file formats\n        Communicates changes automatically to Bob and Raz\n        Has been tested on SGI, Sun, DEC and Cray systems\n\nBTW:    Bob  == Brick of Bytes\n        Icol == Interpolated Color\n        Raz  == ? (just a name)\n\nPlease send any comments to\n        gvlware@ahpcrc.umn.edu\n\nThis software collection is supported by the Army Research Office\ncontract number DAALO3-89-C-0038 with the University of Minnesota Army\nHigh Performance Computing Research Center.\n\n\nIAP\n---\n  Imaging Applications Platform is a commercial package for medical and\n  scientific visualization. It does volume rendering, binary surface\n  rendering, multiplanar reformating, image manipulation, cine sequencing,\n  intermixes geometry and text with images and provides measurement and\n  coordinate transform abilities.\n\n  It can provide hardcopy on most medical film printers, image database\n  functionality and interconnection to most medical (CT\/MRI\/etc) scanners.\n\n  It is client\/server based and provides an object oriented interface. It\n  runs on most high performance workstations and takes full advantage of\n  parallelism where it is available. It is robust, efficient and\n  will be submitted for FDA approval for use in medical applications.\n\n  Cost: $20K for OEM developer, $10K for educational developer\n  and run times starting at $8900 and going down based on quantity.\n\n  The developer packages include two days training for two people in Toronto.\n\n  Available from:\n\n  ISG Technologies\n  6509 Airport Road\n  Mississauga, Ontario,\n  Canada, L4V-1S7\n\n  (416) 672-2100\n  e-mail: Rod Gilchrist <rod@isgtec.com>\n\n========================================================================\n\n18. Molecular visualization stuff\n=================================\n\n[ Based on a list from cristy@dupont.com < Cristy > , which asked for\n systems for displaying Molecular Dynamics, MD for short ]\n\nFlex\n----\n  It is a public domain package written by Michael Pique, at The Scripps\n  Research Institute, La Jolla, CA. Flex is stored as a compressed,\n  tar'ed archive (about 3.4MB) at perutz.scripps.edu [137.131.152.27], in\n  pub\/flex. It displays molecular models and MD trajectories.\n\nMacMolecule\n-----------\n  (for Macintosh). I searched with Archie, and the most\n  promising place is sumex-aim.stanford.edu (info-mac\/app, and\n  info-mac\/art\/qt for a demo)\n\nMD-DISPLAY\n----------\n  Runs on SGI machines. Call Terry Lybrand (lybrand@milton.u.washington.edu).\n\nXtalView\n--------\n  It is a crystallography package that does visualize molecules and much more.\n  It uses the XView toolkit.\n  Call Duncan McRee <dem@scripps.edu>\n\nlandman@hal.physics.wayne.edu:\n-----------------------------\n  I am writing my own visualization code right now.  I look at MD output\n  (a specific format, easy to alter for the subroutine) on PC's.  My\n  program has hooks into GKS.  If your friend has access to Phigs for X\n  (PEX) and fortran bindings, I would be happy to share my evolving code\n  (free of charge).  Right now it can display supercells of up to 65\n  atoms (easy to change), and up to 100 time steps, drawing nearest\n  neighbor bonds between 2 defining nn radii.  It works acceptably fast\n  on a 10Mhz 286.\n\nicsg0001@caesar.cs.montana.edu:\n------------------------------\n  I did a project on Molecular Visualization for my Master's Thesis, using\n  UNIX\/X11\/Motif which generates a simple point and space-filling model.\n\nKGNGRAF\n-------\n\nKGNGRAF is part of MOTECC-91. Look on malena.crs4.it (156.148.7.12),\nin pub\/motecc.\n\nmotecc.info.txt          Information about MOTECC-91 in plain ascii format.\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nmotecc.info.troff        Information about MOTECC-91 in troff format.\nmotecc.form.troff        MOTECC-91 order form in troff format.\nmotecc.license.troff     MOTECC-91 license agreement in troff format.\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nmotecc.info.ps           Information about MOTECC-91 in PostScript format.\nmotecc.form.ps           MOTECC-91 order form in PostScript format.\nmotecc.license.ps        MOTECC-91 license agreement in PostScript format.\n\n\nditolla@itnsg1.cineca.it:\n------------------------\n  I'm working on molecular dynamic too.  A friend of mine and I have\n\n  developed a program to display an MD run dynamically on Silicon\n  Graphics.  We are working to improve it, but it doesn't work under X,\n  we are using the graphi. lib. of the Silicon Gr. because they are much\n  faster then X.  When we'll end it we'll post on the news info about\n  where to get it with ftp. (Will be free software).\n\nXBall V2.0\n----------\n  Written by David Nedde. Call daven@maxine.wpi.edu.\n\nXMol\n----\n  An X Window System program that uses OSF\/Motif  for  the\n  display and  analysis  of  molecular  model data.  Data from several\n  common file formats can be read and written; current formats include:\n  Alchemy, CHEMLAB-II, Gaussian, MOLSIM, MOPAC, PDB, and MSCI's XYZ\n  format (which has been designed  for  simplicity  in  translating to\n  and from other formats). XMol also allows for conversion between\n  several of these formats.\n  Xmol is available at ftp.msc.edu. Read pub\/xmol\/README for\n  further details.\n\nINSIGHT II\n----------\n  from BIOSYM Technologies Inc.\n\nSCARECROW\n---------\n  The program has been published in J. Molecular Graphics 10\n  (1992) 33. The program can analyze and display CHARMM, DISCOVER, YASP\n  and MUMOD trajectories. The program package contains also software for\n  the generation of probe surfaces, proton affinity\n  surfaces and molecular orbitals from an extended Huckel program.\n  It works on Silicon Graphics machines.\n  Contact Leif Laaksonen <Leif.Laaksonen@csc.fi or laaksone@csc.fi>\n\nMULTI\n-----\nns.niehs.nih.gov [157.98.8.8] : \/pub - MULTI 3.0 (Multi-Process\n\t\tMolecular Modeling Suite)\n\nMindTool\n--------\n  It runs under SunView, and requires a fortran compiler and Sun's CGI\n  libraries. MindTool is a tool  provided  for  the  interactive  graphic\n  manipulation  of  molecules  and  atoms. Currently, up to 10,000\n  atoms may be input.\n  Available via anonymous FTP, at rani.chem.yale.edu, directory\n  \/pub\/MindTool ( Check with Archie for other  sites if that's too far )\n\n[ I would also suggest looking at least in SGI's Applications Directory.\n It contains many more packages - nfotis ]\n\n===========================================================================\n\n19. GIS (Geographical Information Systems software)\n===================================================\n\nGRASS\n-----\n  (Geographic Resource Analysis Support System) of the US Army\n  Construction Engineering Research Lab (CERL). It is a popular geographic and\n  remote sensing image processing package. Many may think of GRASS as a\n  Geographic Information System rather than an Image Processing package,\n  although it is reported to have significant image processing\n  capabilities.\n\n  Feature Descriptions\n\n  I use GRASS  because it's public domain and can be obtained through the\n  internet for free.  GRASS runs in Unix and is written in C.  The source\n  code can be obtained through an anonymous ftp from the Office of Grass\n  Integration.  You then compile the source code for your machine, using\n  scripts provided with GRASS.  I would recommend GRASS for someone who\n  already has a workstation and is on a limited budget. GRASS is not very\n  user-friendly, compared to Macintosh software.\" A first review  of\n  overview documentation indicates that it looks useful and has some pixel\n  resampling functions not in other packages plus good general purpose\n  image enhancement routines (fft). Kelly Maurice at Vexcel Corp. in\n  Boulder, CO is a primary user of GRASS .  This gentleman has used the\n  GRASS software and developed multi-spectral (238 bands ??) volumetric\n  rendering, full color, on Suns and Stardents. It was a really effective\n  interface.  Vexcel Corp. currently has a contract to map part of Venus\n  and convert the Magellan radar data into contour maps. You can call them\n  at (303) 444-0094 or email care of greg@vexcel.com 192.92.90.68\n\n  Host Configuration Requirements\n\n  If you are willing to run A\/UX you could install GRASS   on a Macintosh\n  which has significant image analysis and import capabilities for\n  satellite data. GRASS  is public-domain, and can run on a high-end PC\n  under UNIX. It is raster-based, has some image-processing capability,\n  and can display vector data (but analysis must be done in the raster\n  environment). I have used GRASS V.3 on a SUN workstation and found it\n  easy to use. It is best, of course, for data that are well represented\n  in raster (grid-cell) form.\n\n  Availability\n\n  CERL's Office of Grass Integration (OGI)  maintains an ftp server:\n  moon.cecer.army.mil (129.229.20.254).\n\n  Mail regarding this site should be addressed to\n  grass-ftp-admin@moon.cecer.army.mil.\n\n  This location will be the new \"canonical\" source for GRASS software, as\n  well as bug fixes, contributed sources, documentation, and other files.\n  This FTP server also supports dynamic compression and uncompression and\n  \"tar\" archiving of files.  A feature attraction of the server is John\n  Parks' GRASS tutorial.  Because the manual is still in beta-test stage,\n  John requests that people only acquire it if they are willing to review\n  it and mail him comments\/corrections. The OGI is not currently\n  maintaining this document, so all correspondence about it should be\n  directed to grassx@tang.uark.edu\n\n  Support\n\n  Listserv mailing lists:\n\n  grassu-list@amber.cecer.army.mil (for GRASS users; application-level\n  questions, support concerns, miscellaneous questions, etc) Send\n  subscribe commands to grassu-request@amber.cecer.army.mil.\n\n  grassp-list@amber.cecer.army.mil (for GRASS programmers; system-level\n  questions and tips, tricks, and techniques of design and implementation\n  of GRASS applications) Send subscribe commands to\n  grassp-request@amber.cecer.army.mil.\n\n  Both lists are maintained by the Office of Grass Integration (subset of\n  the Army Corps of Engineers Construction Engineering Research Lab in\n  Champaign, IL). The OGI is providing the lists as a service to the\n  community; while OGI and CERL employees will participate in the lists,\n  we can make no claim as to content or veracity of messages that pass\n  through the list.  If you have questions, problems, or comments, send\n  E-mail to lists-owner@amber.cecer.army.mil and a human will respond.\n\nMicrostation Imager\n-------------------\n  Intergraph (based in Huntsville Alabama) sells a wide range of GIS\n  software\/hardware. Microstation is a base  graphics package that Imager\n  sits on top of. Imager is basically an  image processing package with a\n  heavy GIS\/remote sensing flavor.\n\n  Feature Description\n\n  Basic geometry manipulations: flip, mirror, rotate, generalized affine.\n  Rectification: Affine, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th order models as well as a\n  projective model (warp an image to a vector map or to another image).\n  RGB to IHS and IHS to RGB conversion.  Principal component analysis.\n  Classification: K-means and isodata.  Fourier Xforms: Forward, filtering\n  and reverse.  Filters: High pass, low pass, edge enhancing, median,\n  generic.  Complex Histogram\/Contrast control.  Layer Controller: manages\n  up to 64 images at a time -- user can extract single bands from a 3 band\n  image or create color images by combining various individual bands, etc.\n\n  The package is designed for a remote sensing application (it can handle\n  VERY LARGE images) and there is all kinds of other software available\n  for GIS applications.\n  Host Configuration Requirements\n\n  It runs on Intergraph Workstations (a Unix machine similar to a Sun)\n  though there  were rumors (there are always rumors) that the software\n  would be  ported to PC and possibly a Sun environment.\n\nPCI\n---\n  A company called PCI, Inc., out of Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada, makes\n  an array of software utilities for processing, manipulation, and use of\n  remote sensing data in eight or ten different \"industry standard\"\n  formats: LGSOWG, BSQ, LANDSAT, and a couple of others whose titles I\n  forget.  The software is available in versions for MS-DOS, Unix\n  workstations (among them HP, Sun, and IBM), and VMS, and quite possibly\n  other platforms by now.  I use the VMS version.\n\n  The \"PCI software\" consists of several classes\/groups\/packages of\n  utilities, grouped by function but all operating on a common \"PCI\n  database\" disk file.  The \"Tape I\/O\" package is a set of utility\n  programs which read from the various remote-sensing industry tape\n  formats INTO, or write those formats out FROM, the \"PCI database\" file;\n  this is the only package I use or know much about.  Other packages can\n  display data from the PCI database to one or another of several\n  PCI-supported third-party color displays, output numeric or bitmap\n  representation of image data to an attached printer, e.g. an Epson-type\n  dot-matrix graphics printer.  You might be more spe- cifically\n  interested in the mathematical operations package: histo- gram and\n  Fourier analysis, equalization, user-specified operations (e.g.\n  \"multiply channel 1 by 3, add channel 2, and store as channel 5\"), and\n  God only knows what all else -- there's a LOT.  I don't have and don't\n  use these, so can't say much about them; you only buy the packages your\n  particular application\/interest calls for.\n\n  Each utility is controlled by from one to eight \"parameters,\" read from\n  a common \"parameter file\" which must be (in VMS anyway) in your \"default\n  directory.\"  Some utilities will share parameters and use the same\n  parameter for a different purpose, so it can get a bit confusing setting\n  up a series of operations.  The standard PCI environment contains a\n  scripting language very similar to IBM-PC BASIC, but which allows you to\n  automate the process of setting up parameters for a common, complicated,\n  lengthy or difficult series of utility executions.  (In VMS I can also\n  invoke utilities independently from a DCL command procedure.)  There's\n  also an optional programming library which allows you to write compiled\n  language programs which can interface with (read from\/write to) the PCI\n  data structures (database file, parameter file).\n\n  The PCI software is designed specifically for remote-sensing images, but\n  requires such a level of operator expertise that, once you reach the\n  level where you can handle r-s images, you can figure out ways to handle\n  a few other things as well.  For instance, the Tape I\/O package offers a\n  utility for reading headerless multi-band (what Adobe PhotoShop on the\n  Macintosh calls \"raw\") data from tape, in a number of different\n  \"interleave\" orders. This turns out to be ideal for manipulating the\n  graphic-arts industry's \"CT2T\" format, would probably (I haven't tried)\n  handle Targa, and so on. Above all, however, you HAVE TO KNOW WHAT\n  YOU'RE DOING or you can screw up to the Nth degree and have to start\n  over.  It's worth noting that the PCI \"database\" file is designed to\n  contain not only \"raster\" (image) data, but vectors (for overlaying map\n  information entered via digitizing table), land-use, and all manner of\n  other information (I observe that a remote-sensing image tape often\n  contains all manner of information about the spectral bands, latitude,\n  longitude, time, date, etc. of the original satellite pass; all of this\n  can go into the PCI \"database\").\n\n  I _believe_ that on workstations the built-in display is used.  On VAX\n  systems OTHER than workstations PCI supports only a couple of specific\n  third-party display systems (the name Gould\/Deanza seems to come to\n  mind).  One of MY personal workarounds was a display program which would\n  display directly from a PCI \"database\" file to a Peritek VCT-Q (Q-bus\n  24-bit DirectColor) display subsystem.  PCI software COULD be \"overkill\"\n  in your case; it seems designed for the very \"high end\"\n  applications\/users, i.e. those for whom a Mac\/PC largely doesn't suffice\n  (although as you know the gap is getting smaller all the time).  It's\n  probably no coincidence that PCI is located in Canada, a country which\n  does a LOT of its land\/resource management via remote sensing; I believe\n  the Canadian government uses PCI software for some of its work in these\n  areas.\n\nSPAM (Spectral Analysis Manager)\n--------------------------------\n  Back in 1985 JPL developed something called SPAM (Spectral Analysis\n  Manager) which got a fair amount of use at the time.  That was designed\n  for Airborne Imaging Spectrometer imagery (byte data, <= 256 pixels\n  across by <= 512 lines by <= 256 bands); a modified version has since\n  been developed for AVIRIS (Airborne VIsual and InfraRed Imaging\n  Spectrometer) which uses much larger images.\n\n  Spam does none of these things (rectification, classification, PC and\n  IHS transformations, filtering, contrast enhancement, overlays).\n  Actually, it does limited filtering and contrast enhancement\n  (stretching).  Spam is aimed at spectral identification and clustering.\n\n  The original Spam uses X or SunView to display.  The AVIRIS version may\n  require VICAR, an executive based on TAE, and may also require a frame\n  buffer.  I can refer you to people if you're interested.  PCW requires X\n  for display.\n\nMAP II\n------\n  Among the Mac GIS systems, MAP II is distributed by John Wiley.\n\nCLRview\n-------\n  CLRview is a 3-dimensional visualization program designed to exploit\n  the real-time capabilities of Silicon Graphics IRIS computers.\n\n  This program is designed to provide a core set of tools to aid in the\n  visualization of information from CAD and GIS sources.  It supports\n  the integration of many common but disperate data sources such as DXF,\n  TIN, DEM, Lattices, and Arc\/Info Coverages among others.\n\n  CLRview can be obtained from explorer.dgp.utoronto.ca (128.100.1.129) \n  in the directory pub\/sgi\/clrview.\n\n  Contact:\n  Rodney Hoinkes\n  Head of Design Applications\n  Centre for Landscape Research\n  University of Toronto\n  Tel:   (416) 978-7197\n  Email: rodney@dgp.utoronto.ca\n\n==========================================================================\n\nEnd of Resource Listing","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"BULLSHIT ! ! !\n\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"If you paid $19.95 for a CD, you're a fool and you got ripped off.\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nYes, you can use a stream cipher chip to hash data with only slight \nmodification. See:\n\n`A fast cryptographic checksum algorithm based on stream ciphers', X Lai,\nRA Rueppel, J Woolven, Auscrypt 92 pp 8-7 to 8-11.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Is there a way to use the mouse when running a DOS app (windowed) in\nwin 3.1?  When you window a dos apps (in enhanced mode), I can see\nwhere the mouse cursor was, but it doesn't work!  Any help\nwould be greatly appreciated.  Thank you","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nThe FBI says that some of the survivors claim to have seen the leaders\nof the cult talking about setting a fire, and to have smelt kerosene.\nI assume this will come out at any trial that occurs as a result\nof these events.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Anas Omran...\n\t\n@>\tBut since all Jews that way, they find him a leader to follow!","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nThe 50 MHz external bus speed provides a hell for cache designs. Most\nof the DX-50 boards have too slow caches that make them effectively\nDX2-50:s. Also as someone else pointed out, local bus boards are\nbetter off at 33 MHz bus speed. The 8k internal cache allows the\nDX2-66 to be generally faster anyway.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"  The goalie to whom you refer is Clint Malarchuk.  He was at\nthat time playing with the Sabres.  His team immediately prior\nto that was the Washington Capitals.  While he did recover and\ncontinue to play, I do not know his present whereabouts.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\"Society\" is impossible without some shared set of moralities, sense\nof what is \"god\" and what is \"bad\" action and basic foundation of \nsomething \"universal\".\n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\tHeay bud, get a life in the real world.... Do you still play with your Atari\nwith the paddles? Geez man,  open your eyes on the technoledgy of today...\n\nI have been quoted a price from a local dealer friend of mine, that I could get a \nMotherboard (386DX\/33 with 64K cache, with 1 meg base ram.) for $285 !!\n\n\tHere is some friendly advice, go to your favorite book store (Walden Book's)\nand pick up a Computer Shoppers Guide...\n\n\tYou think that was aa good price wait till you see some of the OTHER goodies they sell","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":") From: coates@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jeffery David Coates)\n) Subject: TEST\n) Date: 23 Apr 1993 21:09:29 GMT\n) Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute\n) \n) \n) \n) Test\n) \nFailed\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nSTOP IT!!!! ENOUGH!!! I'm out of there!  I mean, I'm a relatively sane person. \nGod knows I'm weak and will forgive me.  But I'm not stupid enough to stay in\nthis place any longer.  I WANT OUT!!!\n\n\nYeah, and at least one person ran back in. SOunds like a personal choice to me.\nReligious fanaticsm, and a beleive that dying in the 'defense' of your beliefs,\nis probably at the core of what happened in Waco. We in the west tend to\ndisregard fanaticsm of the type displayed by many Moslem fundamentalist groups\nwho see nothing wrong with dying for their beliefs\/convictions. I suspect that\nthis same type of fanaticsm was displayed by the BDs. BUt we'll probably never\nknow...","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\tCalling Bill Gates, calling Bill Gates....\n\n\n-Jason","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nYou're right, it is HAPP Controls, Inc., but you can buy direct from them.  I\ndon't have a phone number with me, but anyone interested in it can email me for\nit.  I don't remember their button price, but the joystick price was $8.95\nper dozen at last check.  Should be slightly higher for one or two, but cheaper\nthan Parts Express.  As for the trackballs, i don't know the new price either.\nBut I can sell you rebuilt arcade trackballs for $50.  That includes new rollers\nand new bearings (when nec.).  I also have a pile of used joysticks and buttons\nthat i would be willing to sell.  Please email to address below if interested.\n\n--Donnie","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nI purchased one personal computer and three for business from them. No \nproblems. The only time I called tech support was for a minor question \nabout a video driver and I had no problem getting through.\n\nAll four machines seem to be high quality and well made.  A 486dx50 EISA \nmachine has been our network file server running 24 hrs per day since last \nsummer with no problems.\n\nI hope this is helpful.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I'm interested in obtaining the highest possible image capture in a \nMS-Windows application. The resulting image must go to print and high resolution\nis the name of the game. I'm familiar with (and unhappy with) composite video\ncapture technology. What kind of resolution can I get out of an SVHS signal? \nWhat about RGB (and who makes RGB cameras)? Does anyone have any experience\nwith digital cameras? \n\nAny help at all would be greatly appreciated.\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\nWilliam Brandsdorfer            | UUCP:    !uunet!lehman.com!wbrand\nLehman Brothers                 | INET:    wbrand@lehman.com\n388 Greenwich St.               | Voice:   (212) 464-3835\nNew York, N.Y. 10013            | ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I am using an ibm dx-50 with EISA and local bus....and I need to get a\nlocal bus video card....\n\nThe only hitch is that I need one that will allow me to do the fastest\nanims (or flics) from ram. I have 64-megs of ram in 16-meg simms\n\nI am using 3D-Studio from Autodesk and Imagine from Impulse...\nThey both write out in the .FLC format....\n\nSo does anyone know what would be the best card for showing fast anims\nfrom ram.... ie. like the orchid, Diamond Stealth Viper, ATI....etc\n\nany help would be appreciated.... ( I am trying to circumvent the single-\nframe route)","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nOk It is for a game that is 3d and you have listed the characteristics \nthat you are looking for. I think you may have left out a few \nimportant parameters. \nThe polygons are all convex. \nThey have less than N sides. (you are drawing meshes walls doors etc.)\n\nI believe that the algorithms you can get that will only draw convex\npolygons can be much more efficient than those that can draw\nconcave \/ self intersecting polygons. \nThis efficiency can largely be attributed to the fact that \nsimple convex polygons only have a left and a right edge on each scan line.\nComplex (figure 8 type polygons) can be a bit trickier.\n\nThe less than N sides specification especially if it is a very small \nnumber like 3 or 4 allow othe optimisations to be made.\n\nThus for a high speed game application I think you are looking for\ncode that exploits and is hence limited to drawing simple convex\npolygons.  \n\n\nIt may have been that they were very general purpose algorithms.\nIf you limit yourself to 3 or four sided simple convex polygons\nI think you might be suprised how fast a c algorithm with a \nasm block move to fill each scan line might actually be.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nI guess you need to be reminded of some things!  Have you ever heard of the\nFirst Amendment?  I guess not.  It isn't a crime to be a religous (I know\nyou said \"sacraligious\", but it isn't your place to judge his religion)\nzealot in this country.  REMEMBER we have freedom of religion in this country!\nI guess you are selective in that respect!  So what if they were \"bastard\"\nchildren.  They were CHILDREN!  Do you condone their deaths?  I pray for\nyour lack of a soul if you do!","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Could anyone tell me the format of GIF files.  I would like to know how I \ncould determine the size of the picture.  Also, are gif files in compressed\nformat?  How many bits store pixel color information?  \n\n(This is probally a simple question, but I couldn't find it in the FAQ.)\n\nemail responses would be perferred\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":": Has anyone else experienced anything like this?  If this just means that I\n: need to replace the screen then I guess I'll have to but I thought that the\n: \"death\" of my LCD screen would be a little less dramatic when it eventually\n: happened.  I didn't want to take it in to be repaired before I asked on the\n: net about this because I already know what they'll say: \"Yep, you gotta have\n: this replaced and it's gonna cost you $???.\"\n\n: I've only had the computer for about 21 months.\n\n\"Only\"?!?  That's a long time! (echoing above posting)  The way the market\nis going nowadays, your machine's obsolete two weeks before you buy it. \nSounds like you'll have to sink *some* money into it for repair, but\nthat's sometimes necessary for equipment.\n\n: Is that a reasonable life\n: cycle for a LCD display?\n\nI think 21 months with nothing wrong until now is quite reasonable.  If\nyou had bought a Compaq or Toshiba, you might have reasonably expected the\nmachine to last longer before something went wrong; but that's a moot\npoint, perhaps.\n\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------\nsandy santra                     _\\\/_              trevor@netcom.com\nberkeley, california              \/\\               trevor@well.sf.ca.us","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n[SB] Oh yeah, Israel was really ready to \"expand its borders\" on the holiest day\n[SB] of the year (Yom Kippur) when the Arabs attacked in 1973.  Oh wait, you\n[SB] chose to omit that war...perhaps because it 100% supports the exact \n[SB] OPPOSITE to the point you are trying to make?  I don't think that it's\n[SB] because it was the war that hit Israel the hardest.  Also, in 1967 it was\n[SB] Egypt, not Israel who kicked out the UN force.  In 1948 it was the Arabs\n[SB] who refused to accept the existance of Israel BASED ON THE BORDERS SET\n[SB] BY THE UNITED NATIONS.  In 1956, Egypt closed off the Red Sea to Israeli\n[SB] shipping, a clear antagonistic act.  And in 1982 the attack was a response\n[SB] to years of constant shelling by terrorist organizations from the Golan\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n[SB] Heights. Children were being murdered all the time by terrorists and Israel\n^^^^^^^^^^^^\n[SB] finally retaliated.  Nowhere do I see a war that Israel started so that \n[SB] the borders could be expanded.\n\nI agree with all you write except that Terrorist orgs. were not shelling\nIsrael from the Golan Heights in 1982, but rather from Lebanon. The Golan\nHeights have been held by Israel since 1967, and therefore the PLO could\nnot have been shelling Israel from there, unless there is something I am\nnot aware of.\n\n\nTsiel","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Does anyone truely understand the \"INVALID NORMAL ARRAY\" error 3ds gives\nyou while rendering?  It seems to present itself while rendering\ncomplicated images.  I have circumvented this problem by rendering at\nthe command line, however it would be nice to render inside the editor.\nIs this a memory problem???  ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nI saw a printed up flyer that stated the person was a\n\"licensed herbologist and iridologist\"\nWhat are your opinions?\nHow much can you tell about a person's health by looking into their eyes?\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I've installed many X apps, and have that many of them Imakefiles that have\nlines startingwith XCOMM in them. When I do a xmkmf to create the Makefile,\nthe Makefile also has the XCOMM (comment?) lines in them. I always have\nto edit out these lines because the make command barfs on them. I was\nwondering what these lines were for, and what I might be doing wrong that\ncauses the make command to dislike them. Thanks!\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Subject: CDTV, Accessories, 1084s Monitor.\n\nBecause of the 'questionable' bids being placed for the set-up, I am\nincluding some 'guideline' prices in this REPOST. Negotiable, of course.\n\nIn anticipation of the arrival of my new computer system, I am\nselling my CDTV and accessories.  I am in no rush to sell this\nso if you don't have the money now, but may be able to get it in\na few weeks, make a bid and let me know.\n\nI am NOW willing to sell the pieces separately, but I will wait to sell\nuntil they are all accounted for (at least CDTV and Keyboard Kit)\nI will sell the monitor separately.\n\nCDTV  (6 months old. Mint condition. Comes with all documentation,\n      packaging, receipt, etc, all in mint condition. Demo disc.)\n      ----->I will start bidding at $375 for this\n\nCDTV Keyboard Package [Keyboard, mouse, 3.5\" drive] (Comes with all\n      documention, packaging, receipt etc. 6 months old. Mint\n      turns your CDTV into a full fledged AMIGA 500 computer!)\n      ----->I will start bidding at $125 for this\n\n1084s Monitor (A couple years old. Very Good condition. Comes with\n       all documentation, packaging, and receipt if I can find it.)\n      ----->I will start bdding at $125 for this\n\nSoftware (Various titles...games, demos, etc. NOTE: I have no CDTV\n          discs. All software is 3.5\" disc based).\n      ----->FREE with PACKAGE deal.\n\nPlease send your best bid to io00844@maine or call (207)-581-7589.\nAsk for Zero Batzell. You can leave a message if I'm not in.\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------\nZero Z. Batzell     | CDTV Owner.     \"We come in peace...shoot to kill!\"\n(207)-581-7589      | Iguana Owner.      \"NCC-42 U.S.S. Heart Of Gold\"\nUniversity of Maine | Video Hobbyist.    \"Live long and Don't Panic!!\"\nstudent with a      | Star Trek TNG Fan.\n(Mostly Harmless)   | Douglas N. Adams Fan.   MAJOR: Life, The Universe,\ntransfer in mind.   | Orson Scott Card Fan.         and Everything.\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------\n  The Enterprise is not a ship for freeloading degenerate hitchhikers.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"There are chips which perform the voice compression\/expansion.  They can't\nbe expensive, because they exist in many phones connected to PBXs or on the\nPBX line cards, as well as in a lot of equipment which compresses\nvoice-grade circuits to save the cost of long-distance, leased T1s or\nsatellite circuits.\n\nI can't remember the generic term for these chips.  My impression is that\nthis was a big deal 10 years ago, but circuits have gotten so cheap that\nit isn't done much now.\n\nLew\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Within the next several months I'll be looking for a job in computer\ngraphics software.  I'm in need of info on graphics software companies. \nI've checked the FAQ, the resource list, and siggraph.org, haven't found\nanything.  The last Computer Graphics Career Handbook that I'm aware of,\nwas published in 1991.  It has a list of 40 companies in it, but no\ntremendously specific information on any of them.\n\nCan people please steer me towards more current and in-depth informational\nresources?  Thanks.  I'll post a summary if there's interest.\n\nBrandon\n\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":": >Why not build a inflatable space dock.\n\n: If you're doing large-scale satellite servicing, being able to do it in\n: a pressurized hangar makes considerable sense.  The question is whether\n: anyone is going to be doing large-scale satellite servicing in the near\n: future, to the point of justifying development of such a thing.\n\nThat's a mighty fine idea.  But since you asked \"Why not,\" I'll\nrespond.\n\nPutting aside the application of such a space dock, there are other\nfactors to consider than just pressurized volume.  Temperature control\nis difficult in space, and your inflatable hangar will have to \nincorporate thermal insulation (maybe a double-walled inflatable).\nMicrometeoroid protection and radiation protection are also required.\nDon't think this will be a clear plastic bubble; it's more likely\nto look like a big white ball made out of the same kind of multi-layer\nfabric that soft-torso space suits are made out of today.\n\nBecause almost all manned space vessels (Skylab, Mir, Salyut) used\ntheir pressurization for increased structural rigidity, even though\nthey had (have) metal skins, they still kind of qualify as inflatable.\n\nThe inflation process would have to be carefully controlled.  The\nspace environment reduces ductility in exposed materials (due to\ntemperature extremes, monotomic Oxygen impingement, and radiation\neffects on materials), so your \"fabric\" may not retain any flexibility\nfor long.  (This may not matter.)  Even after inflation, pressure\nchanges in the hangar may cause flexing in the fabric, which could\nlead to holes and tears as ductility decreases.\n\nThese are some of the technical difficulties which the LLNL proposal\nfor an inflatable space station dealt with to varying degrees of\nsuccess.\n\n-- Ken Jenks, NASA\/JSC\/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office\n      kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov  (713) 483-4368","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"rja@mahogany126.cray.com (Russ Anderson) writes...\n\n\n\n\n\tThe fact is that Koresh and his followers involved themselves\n\tin a gun battle to control the Mt Carmel complex. That is not\n\tin dispute. From what I remember of the trial, the authories\n\tcouldn't reasonably establish who fired first, the big reason\n\tbehind the aquittal.\n\n                  _____  _____\n                  \\\\\\\\\\\\\/ ___\/___________________\n  Mitchell S Todd  \\\\\\\\\/ \/                 _____\/__________________________\n________________    \\\\\/ \/ mst4298@zeus._____\/.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'_'_'_\/\n\\_____        \\__    \/ \/ tamu.edu  _____\/.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'_'_\/\n    \\__________\\__  \/ \/        _____\/_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_\/\n                \\_ \/ \/__________\/\n                 \\\/____\/\\\\\\\\\\\\\n \t\t\t \\\\\\\\\\\\","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Article #61083 (61123 is last):\nFrom: scholten@epg.nist.gov (Robert Scholten)\nSubject: Re: How hot should the cpu be?\nDate: Wed Apr 21 19:01:49 1993\n\nThe temp on my 486DX2\/66 is over 96C (measured with a K-type thermocouple \nand Fluke 55 dig thermometer).  This is an \"idle\" temp - not doing lots of\nbus i\/o, not doing floating point, not doing 32-bit protected mode etc.  This\nis in a Micron computer, without heatsink.\n\nI recently put a heatsink\/fan on the chip, but I might take the fan off.  It\nmakes a horrible whine at times, and I wonder what the vibration is doing to\nthe pins on the cpu etc...\n\n-- \nRob Scholten\nscholten@epg.nist.gov\nEnd of File, Press RETURN to quit\n\nRob,\nDon't worry about the whine of the fan it will go away in about 3 weeks\nof use, mine did...\nAs to the vibration well that something I thought about to as I have\na tower case and the mb is mounted vertically. So I mounted the fan\non the case so that it just blows air at the CPU and its heatsink\ninstead. Work just like a charm, but the realy biggy to think about\nis after the whine goes away on the fan. If the fan should stop (burn out)\nhow would you ever know this before the cpu goes up in smoke. Thats what\nyou should be thinking about. I have the parts together but have not\nhad the time to assemble them as yet. But you build a thermistor controlled\ncircuit that will turn on a pesso speaker and a LED when the temp. goes\nabove the normal operating range (96c) or there abouts. Cheep to do if\nyou use Radio Shack junk under $5....Think about that one for a while!\nSam","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI actually saw this movie about three months ago, but it wasn't called\nEASY WHEELS.  It was something else that escapes me at the moment but\nI did rent it from Blockbuster Video and it was a hoot, in the same\nclass as Plan 9 From Outer Space.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n*Sigh*\n\nDon't know what your roomate is doing but it must be something wrong.\nAre there people who enjoy using Windows? Yes. I'll admit to it. Given\na choice between a Mac and Windows I choose Windows every time (to\nstart another flame thread 9-) ) ....\n\n\n\n\n\n-- ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"#|> #\n#|> #Noting that a particular society, in this case the mainland UK,\n#|> #has few religously motivated murders, and few murders of *any*\n#|> #kind, says very little about whether inter-religion murders elsewhere\n#|> #are religiously motivated.\n#|> \n#|> No, but it allows one to conclude that there is nothing inherent\n#|> in all religion (or for that matter, in catholicism and protestantism)\n#|> that motivates one to kill.\n#\n#\"Motivates\" or \"allows?\"    The Christian Bible says that one may kill\n#under certain circumstances.   In fact, it instructs one to kill under\n#certain circumstances.     \n\nI'd say the majority of people have a moral system that instructs them\nto kill under certain circumstances.  I do get your distinction between\nmotivate and allow, and I do agree that if a flavour of theism 'allows'\natoricities, then that's an indictment of that theism.  But it rather\ndepends on what the 'certain circumstances' are.  When you talk about\nChristianity, or Islam, then at least your claims can be understood.\nIt's when people go to a general statement about theism that it falls\napart.  One could believe in a God which instructs one to be utterly\nharmless.\n#\n#|> For my part, I conclude that something\n#|> else is required.  I also happen to believe that that something\n#|> else will work no less well without religion - any easy Them\/Us will\n#|> do.\n#\n#And what does religion supply, if not an easy Them\/Us?\n\nNot necessarily.  \"Love thy neighbour\" does not supply a them\/us - it\ndemolishes it.  And my definition of religion is broader than my\ndefinition of theism, as I have explained.\n#\n#|> #By insisting that even the murder of four labourers, chosen because\n#|> #they were catholics, and who had nothing to do with the IRA, by \n#|> #Protestant extremists, is *not* religously motivated, I think what \n#|> #you are saying is that you simply will not accept *any* murder as \n#|> #being religiously motivated.\n#|> \n#|> No.  What about that guy who cut off someone's head because he believed \n#|> he was the devil incarnate?  That was religously motivated.\n#\n#What about the Protestant extremists who killed four Catholic \n#labourers?     That *wasn't* religiously motivated?\n\nNot in my opinion.  If they were doing it because of some obscure\npoint of theology, then yes.  But since all protestants don't do this\n(nor do they elect extremists to do it for them), it's just too broad\ntoo say \"religion did this\".  I'm saying that the causes are far more\ncomplex than that - take away the religious element, and you'd still\nhave the powerful motives of revenge and misguided patriotism.  You\nknow, when most Catholics and Protestants worldwide say 'stop the \nkilling', one might listen to that, especially when you claim not\nto read minds.\n#\n#\n#|> Also, the murders ensuing from the fatwa on Mr. Rushdie, the Inquisitions,\n#|> and the many religous wars.\n#\n#What's so special about these exceptions?    Isn't this all just a\n#grab-bag of ad-hoc excuses for not considering some other murders\n#to be religiously motivated?    What's the general principle behind\n#all this?\n\nThe general principle is that it's fairly clear (to me, at least) that\nreligion is the primary motivator (enabler, whatever) of these.  It's\nnot nearly so obvious what's going on when one looks at NI, apart\nfrom violence of course.\n#\n#|> #It's not an abstract \"argument\".   Northern Irish Protestants say\n#|> #\"We don't want to be absorbed into am officially Catholic country.\"\n#|> #\n#|> #Now what are we supposed to do?   Are we supposed to reply \"No,\n#|> #that's only what you think you don't want.   Mr O'Dwyer assures us\n#|> #that no matter what you say you want, you really want something \n#|> #else?\"\n#|> \n#|> You think the Unionists wouldn't mind being absorbed into a non-Catholic \n#|> country (other than the UK of course)?   It's a terrible thing to lose\n#|> a mind.   Maybe the word \"country\" is there for more than just kicks.\n#|> I certainly don't believe that the Unionists are in it for God - I think\n#|> they wish to maintain their position of privilege.\n#\n#I'm still listening to what they say, and you are still telling us \n#your version of what they think.   You read minds, and I don't.\n\nYou've speculated on my motives often enough, and you don't take\nmy statements of my own beliefs at face value - therefore your claim \nnot to read minds has no credibility with me, sorry.   I also note that \nyou fail to answer my question.  It just looks to me very much like\nyou have an axe to grind - especially as you are indeed ignoring what \nmost Protestants say - which is @stop the killing\".  The people you\nrefer to are properly described as Unionists, not Protestants.\n#\n#As for their position of privilege, what is that if not religion-\n#based?\n\nIt is based on politics, bigotry, and heartless extremism.  None of these\nthings are synonymous with religion, though there is certainly some\noverlap.\n\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":": I've only had the computer for about 21 months.  Is that a reasonable life\n: cycle for a LCD display?","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nGood point.  If you haven't read \"The True Believer\" by Eric Hoffer, do\nso at your first opportunity.  I don't know why Hoffer is out of style\nnow, but \"The True Believer\" is still the best explanation of nutball\nbehavior ever written.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nHmm...are you a Taoist?  Imposing limits *does* do something useful...it gives\nyou something to go beyond.\n\n\nI tend to be a bit critical of any stratification of Taoism.  I especially\ntend to frown on any suggestion that \"orthodoxy\" or \"classics\" have any\nspecial place in Tao.\n\n\nSo rather than debate what \"Taoism *REALLY* means\" you are suggesting that\nwe take someone else's word for it and work thusly?  I'd rather not, thank\nyou.\n\n\nWhereas you, of course, have a clear idea of what the word means?  Can\nyou tell the Tao? :-)\n\n\nWonderful idea.\n\n\nOnly if you choose to define failure in that way.  Or to define it at all.\n\n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Woo! So far, we've had the following interpretations of the figure of\nthe `Whore of Babylon' in Rev 17 & 18:\n\na) The United States of America\nb) MHO dB) which was as a figure of the fallen spiritual powers who\n   corrupt and oppress human society\nc) Historical Jerusalem\nd) Historical Rome\n\nDare I suggest that the passage might be many layered in meaning? How\nabout * The prophecy reveals God's judgement on the corrupt & idolatrous\nstate oppressing his chosen people (d) * That God's judgement extends\n_especially_ to his once chosen city (c) because, despite that City's\nspecial call, it still rejected God's grace at the decisive time (Rev\n11:8? - also isn't Rev19:24 equally suggestive of Rome as Jerusalem?) *\nThat the USofA is guilty of many of the crimes of Rome\/Babylon (a) and\nis equally subject to God's judgement * That the Good Book(TM) actually\nencompasses _all_ these viewpoints by revealing the corrupting spiritual\npowers warring against mankind through the very society that we've\ncreated. (b)\n\nClever, huh? (<-- Flame here!) No need to argue at all! \n\nI think Mary's view has a lot of sense because there seems to be a\ndeliberate contrast between Rev 17\/18 and Rev 21\/22 - the mortal\nJerusalem chosen by God but never (historically) fulfilling its vocation\nand the new Jerusalem perfected (outside of history) purely by God's\ngrace. eg Details like Rev 17:1 `.. who sits on many waters' cf Rev 22\nthe single stream in the new Jersualem `the river of life flowing from\nthe throne of God and of the Lamb.'","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I just entered the market for a Radar Detector and am looking for\nany & all advice\/recommendations\/warnings\/etc from anyone in \nthis group.\n\nEmail is preferred.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nYou Ford vs Chevy people must live in the planet of Detroit or Droid.\n\nLike they say in the airforce, with enough horsepower anything will fly.\n\nI can put a 32valve V-8 with twin Garret-4s on Yugo and get 7.7sec QM.\nThats useless ... Its still a Yugo that will loose any race on a track,\nor on the street.\n\nHave you Detroit beings compared the ultra-long-throw stick shifts of\nthe 5.0 with the 93 MR2 turbo or 93 RX7 (I ll buy it in 6 mos) ?\n\nOr the Torsen differential of the RX7 compared to the Differential of \nthe 5.0 that sounds in every hairpin turn ?\n\nAnd bythe way 5.0 and Camaro both have drums on the rear breaks ...\nHello , this is the 90 's ?\n\nVlasis Theodore\nSoftware Engineer","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nIf Prof. Denning is afraid of posting here due to personal attacks,\nperhaps she should use an anonymous posting service.  That is why\nthey are there, to allow heated debate to occur without the personal\nattacks.  \n\nIs anon@penet back up yet?","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Hmmm...\n  A possibility for the software registration conondrum would be to have the\ndistributor register the copy when the software was sold.  The clerk sticks it\nin the store PC and asks for the buyers ID. Later, if pirated versions showed up they could be tracked to the original purchaser. In addition copies which were\nsent to distributors\/stores would have a vendor reg # or serial # in order to\ntrack in store piracy.\n\nPossible additional program security schemes would be:\n1. having monthly password changes which necessitate user call in\n   and registration. (inconvenient)\n2. taking dire legal action on anyone caught (expensive)\n3. encryption, crc check, self modifying code (limited effectiveness)\n4. have an independent watchdog program in the installation\/setup config or\n   memory manager, etc. which would check the main program's crc. \n   (only as effective as above methods at best.)\n5. have the above watchdog circulating as a virus which would trash cracked \n   copies of the program and\/or the offenders hard drive. (risky, and probably\n   illegal, certainly immoral)\n\nmy new ideas aren't terribly feasible to implement as presented, but I thought\nif I threw them out people could think of variations that might be effective.\nWhat is the problem with parallel port security keys? I haven't used anything\nthat had hardware key copy protection schemes, so I don't know what the\ndrawbacks are. I know the companies that make them claim they're uncrackable,\nbut I've seen cracks of AutoDesk 3d-studio floating around (I don't have one\nso don't ask) and I had heard that it had parralel port keys.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nMost likely reason is that your backup battery is failing - this battery \nmaintains the contents of the CMOS memory when AC power is turned off, and\nif the battery is flakey then the contents of the CMOS will be lost and \nthe checksum will be wrong (along with most other of the CMOS data). Try \nreplacing the battery.\n\nIf, however, your PC doesn't use a battery but a large capacitor to power\nthe CMOS, you should check to see if you can replace the capacitor with a \nmore normal lithium battery. If this isn't possible, make sure you leave\nyour PC on for a half hour or hour each day; this will keep the capacitor \ncharged. I'd opt for the battery change, though.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nYou shouldn't have ignored the ZyXEL.  It can be purchased with a \"Mac\nbundle\", which includes a hardware-handshaking cable and FaxSTF software.\nThe bundle adds between $35 and $60 to the price of the modem, depending\non the supplier.  It is true that the modem has no Mac-specific docs,\nbut it doesn't require much 'tweaking' (aside from setting &D0 in the\ninit string, to enable hardware handshaking).\n\nFor more information on the ZyXEL, including sources, look at various files \non sumex-aim.stanford.edu, in info-mac\/report.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nOh? What about the precedent in which nuclear weapons information was\npublished in \"The Progressive\"? I was under the impression that the\ncourt held that prior restraint could NOT be used. Any lawyers out\nthere?\n\n--\nPerry Metzger\t\tpmetzger@shearson.com","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I would appreciate it if someone could volunteer to verify the shots on goal\nand save percentage numbers for me, so I can put these stats on the archive\nsite.  Contact me by mail if you want to volunteer.\n\nHere are the team goalie stats as of: Wed Apr 21 09:09:38 CST 1993\n\nThese stats include games up to and including the Sunday previous to the date\nlisted above.  They have been verified against what is printed in my newspaper\nevery Tuesday.  They don't print shots and save percentage numbers, so those\nare not verified.  \n\nIf you have any questions, comments or suggestions, let me know.\n\nRandy\n\n-------\nMP = Minutes Played, GA = Goals against,\nSO = Shutouts, GAA = Goals against average\nW = Wins, L = Losses, T = Ties\nSOG = Shots on Goal, SV = Save Percentage\n\n MP   GA SO   GAA  W  L  T  SOG   SV  TM Player\n=======================================================\n4106 177  7  2.59 41 18 11 1879 0.906 CHI Ed Belfour\n 996  49  2  2.95  6  7  1  414 0.882 CHI Jim Waite\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5108 230  9  2.70 47 25 12 2296 0.900 CHI\n\n 479  18  2  2.25  6  2  0  232 0.922 TOR Daren Puppa\n2781 116  2  2.50 25 15  7 1287 0.910 TOR Felix Potvin\n1665  87  1  3.14 13  9  4  823 0.894 TOR Grant Fuhr\n 160  15  0  5.63  0  3  0   91 0.835 TOR Rick Wamsley\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5097 241  5  2.84 44 29 11 2438 0.901 TOR\n\n  25   1  0  2.40  0  0  0   10 0.900 BOS Mike Bales\n1322  64  1  2.90  9  8  4  596 0.893 BOS John Blue\n3194 168  3  3.16 37 14  3 1354 0.876 BOS Andy Moog\n 542  31  0  3.43  5  4  0  225 0.862 BOS Reggie Lemelin\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5096 268  4  3.16 51 26  7 2190 0.878 BOS\n\n3702 186  4  3.01 43 14  5 1889 0.902 PIT Tom Barrasso\n1368  78  0  3.42 13  7  2  691 0.887 PIT Ken Wregget\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5083 268  5  3.16 56 21  7 2582 0.896 PIT\n\n3890 196  1  3.02 29 28  9 2194 0.911 STL Curtis Joseph\n1210  74  1  3.67  8  8  2  628 0.882 STL Guy Hebert\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5110 278  2  3.26 36 36 11 2825 0.902 STL\n\n1817  94  1  3.10 18  8  4  858 0.890 VAN Kay Whitmore\n3261 184  3  3.39 28 21  5 1620 0.886 VAN Kirk McLean\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5087 278  4  3.28 46 29  9 2449 0.886 VAN\n\n1193  64  0  3.22 13  4  2  522 0.877 DET Vincent Riendeau\n3880 210  4  3.25 34 24  7 1898 0.889 DET Tim Cheveldae\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5088 280  4  3.30 47 28  9 2425 0.885 DET\n\n  40   1  0  1.50  0  0  0   19 0.947 MTL Frederick Chabot\n3595 192  2  3.20 31 25  5 1813 0.894 MTL Patrick Roy\n1433  81  1  3.39 17  5  1  686 0.882 MTL Andre Racicot\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5087 280  3  3.30 48 30  6 2522 0.889 MTL\n\n1311  70  1  3.20 14  4  1  629 0.889 CAL Jeff Reese\n3732 203  2  3.26 29 26  9 1805 0.888 CAL Mike Vernon\n  65   5  0  4.62  0  0  1   39 0.872 CAL Andrei Trefilov\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5120 282  3  3.30 43 30 11 2476 0.886 CAL\n\n   1   0  0  0.00  0  0  0    0 1.000 WAS Byron Dafoe\n 343  10  2  1.75  3  2  0  162 0.938 WAS Rick Tabaracci\n3282 181  1  3.31 27 23  5 1531 0.882 WAS Don Beaupre\n1421  83  0  3.50 13  9  2  681 0.878 WAS Jim Hrivnak\n  20   2  0  6.00  0  0  0    7 0.714 WAS Olaf Kolzig\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5085 286  3  3.37 43 34  7 2391 0.880 WAS\n\n3476 193  3  3.33 26 26  5 1683 0.885 MIN Jon Casey\n1596  97  1  3.65 10 12  5  803 0.879 MIN Darcy Wakaluk\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5090 293  4  3.45 36 38 10 2489 0.882 MIN\n\n1429  75  0  3.15 11 10  4  716 0.895 BUF Dominik Hasek\n1694  98  0  3.47 11 15  2  903 0.891 BUF Grant Fuhr\n1306  78  0  3.58 11  5  4  706 0.890 BUF Daren Puppa\n 664  41  0  3.70  5  6  0  344 0.881 BUF Tom Draper\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5104 297  0  3.49 38 36 10 2674 0.889 BUF\n\n2655 146  1  3.30 22 20  2 1314 0.889 NYI Glenn Healy\n2253 130  0  3.46 17 15  5 1067 0.878 NYI Mark Fitzpatrick\n 157  10  0  3.82  1  2  0   78 0.872 NYI Danny Lorenz\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5088 297  1  3.50 40 37  7 2470 0.880 NYI\n\n1939 110  0  3.40 18  9  4  947 0.884 QUE Stephane Fiset\n2988 172  0  3.45 29 16  5 1525 0.887 QUE Ron Hextall\n 154  10  0  3.90  0  2  1   66 0.848 QUE Jacques Cloutier\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5101 300  0  3.53 47 27 10 2536 0.882 QUE\n\n2672 151  2  3.39 19 21  3 1322 0.886 NJ  Chris Terreri\n2389 146  2  3.67 21 16  4 1180 0.876 NJ  Craig Billington\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5080 299  4  3.53 40 37  7 2505 0.881 NJ \n\n2757 152  4  3.31 20 18  7 1519 0.900 NYR John Vanbiesbrouck\n 224  14  0  3.75  1  2  1  116 0.879 NYR Corey Hirsch\n2105 134  1  3.82 13 19  3 1184 0.887 NYR Mike Richter\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5108 308  5  3.62 34 39 11 2826 0.891 NYR\n\n2512 143  5  3.42 20 17  6 1329 0.892 PHI Tommy Soderstrom\n1769 111  1  3.76 13 11  5  932 0.881 PHI Dominic Roussel\n 802  59  0  4.41  3  9  0  405 0.854 PHI Stephane Beauregard\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5107 319  6  3.75 36 37 11 2672 0.881 PHI\n\n3855 227  2  3.53 33 26  6 2119 0.893 WIN Bob Essensa\n 180  13  0  4.33  2  1  0   96 0.865 WIN Jim Hrivnak\n 959  70  0  4.38  5 10  0  502 0.861 WIN Rick Tabaracci\n  73   6  0  4.93  0  0  1   34 0.824 WIN Mike O'Neill\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5084 320  2  3.78 40 37  7 2755 0.884 WIN\n\n1591  97  0  3.66  7 19  2  757 0.872 TB  Wendell Young\n1163  71  0  3.66  8 10  1  573 0.876 TB  JC Bergeron\n2268 150  1  3.97  8 24  4 1197 0.875 TB  Pat Jablonski\n  45   7  0  9.33  0  1  0   21 0.667 TB  David Littman\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5088 332  1  3.92 24 53  7 2557 0.870 TB \n\n3753 240  1  3.84 17 38  6 2069 0.884 EDM Bill Ranford\n1338  93  0  4.17  9 12  2  763 0.878 EDM Ron Tugnutt\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5099 337  1  3.97 26 50  8 2836 0.881 EDM\n\n1735 111  0  3.84 15  8  4  987 0.888 LA  Robb Stauber\n2718 175  2  3.86 18 21  6 1545 0.887 LA  Kelly Hrudey\n 532  35  0  3.95  6  4  0  294 0.881 LA  Rick Knickle\n  98  13  0  7.96  0  2  0   51 0.745 LA  David Goverde\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5100 340  2  4.00 39 35 10 2858 0.881 LA \n\n  11   0  0  0.00  0  0  0    3 1.000 HAR Corrie D'Alessio\n 168   9  0  3.21  1  1  1   87 0.897 HAR Mike Lenarduzzi\n 867  57  0  3.94  5  9  1  499 0.886 HAR Mario Gosselin\n2656 184  0  4.16 16 27  3 1470 0.875 HAR Sean Burke\n1373 111  0  4.85  4 15  1  784 0.858 HAR Frank Pietrangelo\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5097 369  0  4.34 26 52  6 2851 0.871 HAR\n\n1326  95  0  4.30  2 17  1  743 0.872 OTT Daniel Berthiaume\n3388 250  0  4.43  8 46  3 1711 0.854 OTT Peter Sidorkiewicz\n  90  10  0  6.67  0  2  0   44 0.773 OTT Darrin Madeley\n 249  30  0  7.23  0  5  0  146 0.795 OTT Steve Weeks\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5074 395  0  4.67 10 70  4 2656 0.851 OTT\n\n2074 142  1  4.11  7 26  0 1250 0.886 SJ  Arturs Irbe\n  60   5  0  5.00  0  1  0   46 0.891 SJ  Wade Flaherty\n2000 176  0  5.28  2 30  1 1220 0.856 SJ  Jeff Hackett\n 930  86  0  5.55  2 14  1  559 0.846 SJ  Brian Hayward\n--------------------------------------------------------------\n5077 414  1  4.89 11 71  2 3079 0.866 SJ \n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I thought the first thread was hilarious, so here goes another post.\n\nSome more background information on what has happened to my poor batteries.\n\n  One year, I left the batteries in the garage.  The garage is Unheated.  \nThey were left in their places that they needed to be.  One in the riding\nlawnmower (what a lux) and one in each motorcycle.  The battery in the \nriding lawnmower was about 3-4 years old, and one of the cycle batteries \nwas new, and one was around 5 years old.  Upon spring time, I discovered\nthat all of the batteries were dead, and needed to be recharged.  They all\nworked properly, except for the older ones, and they had to be replaced \nabout halfway through the summer.  (they had originally been stored\nin the garage, and I think I remember my dad charging them in spring)\n  Last year, I decided to bring them in to the basement, which has two parts.\none is dirt and brick, and the other is concrete.  I brought in all three, and\ndiscovered in the spring, (about 15 days ago) that not only were the batteries\ndead, but when I put the charger on them, the charger said \"HMMMMMMMM\" and \nthe amp-meter read around 1,000,000,000  (In other words, it was pinned)\nthe internal circut tripped, and I went on to the other batteries.  They\nwere the same.  \n   Realizing that we still had 2 GIGANTIC sailboat batteries, also lead\nacid, I decided to put the charger on them.  (these had been sitting for around 1 and a half years, on the brick and dirt part) and noticed that they only\nneeded a small charge, around 2 hours or so on trickle.  I tested them\nby using them at the local gas station for giving jump starts, and they\nworked fine for around 25 of 'em. \n  This leads me to believe one of several things.\n     1) I bought really #$%tty batteries last year. (sorta true)\n     2) the concrete has something to do with the discharge of the\n        batteries.\n     3) There was enough moisture to short out the terminals in the \n          room where the concrete is, \n     4) The dirt room was able to absorb the moisture in the air\n         better than concrete.\n\n(BTW, I can almost waterski in the dirt room)  ","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nBrian, have you checked out what your priests told you in the\nBible to see whether they were telling you the truth?  Did you know\nthat according to the Bible, there shouldn't even be such things as\n\"priests\" anymore?  Do you know why the preisthood was established in\nthe Old Testament to begin with and the reasons why after Jesus,\nthere were no priests--that is until the Roman Catholic Church \n300 years later devised the doctrine of transubstantiation by ignoring\nthe whole concept beyond the book of Hebrews?\n\nYou said you analyzed the Bible very closely.  I think you are\nlying.  For if you had, I would think you would have at least\ngot the doctrine of hell straight.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Hi.  I'm looking for a 3D shark for use in a ray tracing rountine I'm doing.\n I'll be using Vivid or POV, but it can be in any format.  Are there any\n FTP sites with 3D objects or does anyone have a good 3D shark?\n\nThanks alot!\n\nChad\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"(Susan Clark) asks:\n\nI am not so sure about the celebrated players of the game, but Tod Hartje,\nwho played for Harvard in college and then went on to play in the AHL\n(initially for Moncton and currently for Providence-- thanks to Daryl \nTurner for the update!) appeared on David Letterman's show about two\nyears ago now.\n\nTod has the distinction of being the first American born player to go \nand play in the former Soviet Union. This was arranged by Jets GM Mike \nSmith while Tod was playing in Moncton at about the time all those \nEuropean players were coming over to North America to play in the NHL.\n\nTod spent a year playing in Russia and played with or against some of\nthe Russian players who have just entered the NHL in the last two years.\nHe wrote a book on his experiences called \"Behind the Red Line\" (check it\nout!) and appeared on the Letterman show to talk about them.\n\n-- Mike ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I'd like to appeal to the net's NT wizards for a bit of advice.\n\nFirst a general description of the machine as follows:\n Motherboard: Utron 33 mhz Opti chipset, 20 meg memory, 256kb cache\n      (soon I hope to drop a DX2 chip into it)\n Fahrenheit 1280 video (1 meg, 1024x768x256)\n ProAudio Spectrum 16 sound board\n primary disk = Connor CP30174 on a caching IDE controller\n secondary disk = Conner CP30174 as slave on same controller\n tertiary disk = Fujitsu ??? 650 meg on Superstore ESDI controller\n planned future disks include SCSI HD and CD ROM on PAS16 SCSI port\n Tape drive is a Colorado Jumbo 250 on the Floppy controller\n  future tape drive may be a DAT on the SCSI interface.\n Other hardware includes modem\/fax, serial ports, and a teletext board\n (ugly dos software drives the latter)\n\nApplications used include normal windows stuff (excel, word, Quicken\nand Turbo Pascal\/Windows) but the important stuff is my Audio\nwork environment which includes Turtle beach Wave for Windows, MCS Stereo,\nand other misc stuff for dinking around with audio files.  Also I use\nStacker on the primary drive, HP Newwave (for my wife's use, and she \nwon't let me get rid of it!), and a product called Infinite Disk from \nChili Pepper Software for hierarchical storage management of my seldom \nused offline files.  \n\nI plan to upgrade to NT, when it becomes a released product.  I was stongly\ntempted to become a beta user early on, but I don't have time to mess around\nwith the hassles of beta software.  I expect to buy it, tear off the \nshrink wrap, and use it without hassle (I know, unrealistic, but I can\nhope can't I, after all, I have work to do).\n\nThe advice I want concerns the state of NT regarding device drivers, and \nhardware specific stuff in general.  How smoothly can I expect the \nupgrade to go?  Can I expect support for all my stuff, or do I\nstill need to scramble around downloading drivers (PAS?, Orchid?, Colorado?) \nfrom some bbs, etc.  What steps should I take to ensure the installation\ngoes smoothly.  Note that I want to nuke dos totally from the system.  I'm\nallergic to command lines!  I plan to run a \"pure\" NT system.  Also, will \nNT communicate with the workgroups lan?  What about stacker?  I currently \nhave stacker on the first disk drive.  Without Stacker, and the Infinite \nDisk product, I will have great difficulty fitting everything I have on the \nsystem (It's cramped now).\n\nI realize Stacker will be incompatible with NT, but will there be an NT \nversion?  Or will NT support compression a la Dos 6?  I know Infinite Disk\nwill be incompatible with NT, but will they offer (or does anybody else)\na comparable product for NT and at what cost?  (perhaps I need to ask \nChili Pepper that question)  I can live without ID if I have to, but I'd\nrather not.  Will NT run my DOS apps (the teletext board mainly) without\nDOS on the system?  What do I need to keep around?\n\nAny feedback or advice (including \"forget NT\" with good reasons) is much\nappreciated.  My only significant reason for moving to NT is I need a better\nmultitasking environment than Windows (among other reasons, WAVE locks up\nthe machine for hours and hours doing DSP processing on large audio files),\nand I want better lan support than I now have (Internet access, etc).  Maybe\nthere are better solutions than NT and if so, I would appreciate hearing \nabout them (OS\/2?  What's it's status these days?)\n\nPls respond by email and if there is interest I'll summarize for the net.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nGrant Fuhr has done this to a lot better coaches than Brian Sutter...","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":": Arrogance is arrogance.  It is not the result of religion, it is the result\n: of people knowing or firmly believing in an idea and one's desire to show\n: others of one's rightness.  I assume that God decided to be judge for our\n: sake as much as his own, if we allow him who is kind and merciful be the \n: judge, we'll probably be better off than if others judged us or we judged \n: ourselves.  \n\nI'm not sure I agree with this 100%.  I agree that arrogance is not the result\nof religion and that God is a far better judge than we are.  I also agree if\nyou mean to say that arrogance shows up in the form of trying to prove one's\nsuperior knowledge, rightness, or holiness over another person's beliefs.\n\nI need to be careful to understand what you mean here so that I do not fall\ninto the mistake of misrepresenting your views.  If I fall down in this area\nI hope you will forgive me.\n\nArrogance is not the result of believing one is right or of believing that\none's God is greater than the god's of others or of believing that one's\nreligion is better than other religions.  These are all naturally self-implied\nbeliefs.\n\nIt is self-contradictory to say that I believe my current beliefs to be wrong.\nWere I to find myself in error, my beliefs would naturally change and follow\nwhat I believe to be right.  Therefore, I must always consider my beliefs\ncorrect.  That's not arrogance.  That's unavoidable behavior.\n\nIt is nonsense to say that I believe another person's god to be greater than\nmy God.  Were his or her god greater, wouldn't I be obligated to change so\nthat their god would become my God?  We are naturally obligated to worship\nthat God which we deem to be the greatest.  Why should we feel obligated to\nworship a second best god for the sake of feeling humble?\n\nArrogance is not necessarily thinking onesself to be better looking or more\nintelligent or stronger or having more resources than another person.  No\ndoubt many will have to chew on this one awhile.  Were passive observation\nof one's superior points arrogance, then God would be most arrogant of all.\n\nHumility does not rest in slandering or belittling God's work of creation in\nour lives.  People often go around trying to be humble saying to one another,\n\"I'm not very smart.  I'm poor.  I'm not good looking.  I'm just a worm in\nthe ground.  I'm such a weak person and although I don't want to sin, I\nreally cannot help it.\"  Were this person truely humble, he would take a\ndifferent approach.  \"God, thank you for making me the way you did.  I know\nthat you never do anything second best.  Yet with all that you have given me,\nI have been so unthankful.  You've given me power to resist the devil.  I\nhave not used it but have indulged myself in doing exactly what you have said\nnot to do.  I have slandered your creation in my life and have credited myself\nwith humility for doing so.  Lord, with all you've given me, I have been\ncompletely unfaithful and I do not deserve your forgiveness.  And, yet Your\nlove for me is so boundless that you would give Yourself to die for me to\nsave me.  As terribly evil as I am, I deserve to go straight to hell, yet it\npleases you somehow to rescue me from this terrible life I've led.  Lord,\nplease forgive me and help me stay on the right track so that I can bring\nglory to Your Name instead of insult.  Lord I'm so sorry for my wrongs.  Please\nhelp me to change.\"\n\n: \n: I think people take exceptional offense to religious arrogance because\n: they don't want to be wrong.  If I find someone arrogant, I typically\n: don't have anything to do with them.\n\nFor me, I've often found it hard to tell the difference.  Often times, the\nmost humble christian has come across to me as arrogant while the most\nproud \"worm in the ground\" false humility type person has been found to be\nmost comfortable company.\n\nWhen I'm wrong and arrogant about my wrongness, I certainly don't feel like\nbeing confronted by my wrongness.  Were someone to confront me verbally with\nmy wrongness, I'd be likely to snap at them and examine them head to toe for\nall their faults and charge them with hypocricy for what they said to me.\nAt the root, my desire would be to make them shut up so that I can go about\nliving my life arrogantly as I wish.  However, were someone to confront me\nsilently by their example, earn my respect, and perhaps mention it to me in\nhumility in private, I'd feel broken down and challenged to seek God for help\nin changing from the error of my ways.\n\nThe hard part is getting to the point to where I can be humble before anyone\nregardless of their humility or pride--regardless of their hypocricy or\nsincerity--regardless of whether onlookers will frown down upon me or not.\nIt isn't easy to take this pain in love with thankfulness for the opportunity\nto improve in one's ability to serve God.  It's easier to cast aside any hope\nof reaching true humility and merely hide behind slandering God's creation\nin our lives instead.\n\n: But we should examine ourselves [I hope I typed this back in right]\n: and why we react to certain situations with such emotions.  For instance,\n: many of us feel \"justified\" to be insulted by an arrogant person.  As if\n: we needed a reason to feel insulted.  But after being insulted over and\n: over again by the words of others, you'd think we'd either toughen up\n: or decide not to be insulted, or ignore the insult.  Just because you\n: can justify feelings of anger or insult or outrage, that doesn't make that\n: reaction the appropriate one.  It is in this light of self-examination\n: that we can change our emotional reactions.\n: \n\nSometimes it helps when we can understand and feel the difference between\nwhat is a true statement of our character and what is a false and slanderous\nstatement of our character.  The devil is the accuser of the bretheren.  He\nwould love us to feel hopelessly guilty where we are innocent and feel arrogant\nand self-righteous where we are indeed wrong.  The devil's aim is to get us\ninto as much misery as he can.  Just think of the devil as a cruel and merci-\nless criminal who torments a parent by burning his or her children with\nhot irons.  The way the devil gets under the Father's skin is by hurting\nthose that the Father loves so much.\n\n\n--\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------\n\t\"I deplore the horrible crime of child murder...\n\t We want prevention, not merely punishment.\n\t We must reach the root of the evil...\n\t It is practiced by those whose inmost souls revolt\n\t from the dreadful deed...\n\t No mater what the motive, love of ease,\n\t\tor a desire to save from suffering the unborn innocent,\n\t\tthe woman is awfully guilty who commits the deed...\n\t but oh! thrice guilty is he who drove her\n\t\tto the desperation which impelled her to the crime.\"","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nWell, there are several bursts in species diversity I can think of.\nThe Cambrian and Ordovician explosions resulted in a vast increase\nin animal diversity. Likewise, after the one-two punch of the\nPermian and Triassic extinctions, the number of marine animals\nrose steadily (**) to an all-time high (*) just prior to the spread \nof humans.\n\n(**) biggest exception being the K\/T (bye bye dinos) extinction\n\n(*) about 800 families\n\nAlso, plants arose from green algae and colonized the land in\nsuccesive sweeps. Mosses colonized very wet environments first,\nferns (who had evolved vascular tissues) took over more territory\nwhen they evolved (1). These were eventually (mostly) replaced by gymnosperms\n(pines and the like) (2) and then (mostly) displaced by angiosperms (flowering\nplants -- now the dominant plant group on the planet(3). Fungi\nalso radiated greatly with the invasion of the land. \n\n(1) around the carboniferous (up to about 200 families)\n(2) around the triassic (up to maybe 250 families)\n(3) starting in the cretaceous (rising to about 600 families currently)\n\nIt's unclear (to me at least) what the max equilibrium number\nof species the earth can hold (***) and if it has ever hit this\nin the past. It could be (warning: speculation alert) that\ndiversity has never reached a peak because mass extinctions\nhappen often enough to keep the total number down.\n\n(***) This would depend a great deal on how fragmented\nspecific ecosystems were. \n\nSee Cowen's book \"History of Life\" for a not-too-technical\nrun-down on, well, like the title sez, the history of life.\nOr see, Wilson's \"Diversity of Life\" for a view centered more\non current ecology -- this is (IMHO) the best popular biology\nbook of (what the hell, I'll say it) all time. \n\n\nFollow-ups to t.o.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nIt seems you lived a fairly 'wild life'-- my background is far more\ntraditional, mostly working, working, working. Maybe there's a clear\nindication that the way you lived your life produced a certain \namount of anxiety that needed to be released. Religion was one\npossible medicine. While my more stable environment didn't and \nstill does not produce the situation where I feel such guilt.\n\nThis is just one possible explanation why you feel this burden,\nwhile I haven't felt it so far.\n\nRegards,\nKent","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Let's not forget Al Michaels, of \"Do you believe in miracles?\" fame.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Maybe I should have been clearer.  I have a Intel 386DX\/25 that I would\nlike to use to put together a system however all the motherboards that\nthe local vendors are now selling are running either at 33 or 40 MHz.  I\nguess I can cross my fingers and hope the CPU runs at that speed. ;^)\n\nI think I'll take Mark's advice and see if any of the boards have\na socketed oscillator and head down to the local electronics store...\n\nThanks for the info...","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"The *real* way to speed up ballgames is for each home park owner to offer the\nfollowing schedule of bonuses to players on *both* teams:\n\n   For all players who participated in the game, offer $500 for each 10\n   minutes less than 3 hours the game took (i.e. if the game only took 2.5\n   hours, each player gets a bonus of $1500).\n\n   For all pitchers throwing 3 or more full innings in the game, extrapolate\n   the number of pitches or attempted pickoffs to the number they would have\n   thrown in a full 9 innings, and offer $500 for each number less than 120.\n   (If the pitcher throws a complete game with 100 pitches and 5 throws to\n   first he would get $7500).\n\nI suspect you could finance this the same way Presidential campaigns are\npaid for. Offer each fan a checkoff on his or her ticket that says \"I want\n5% of the price of this ticket to go towards fast game bonuses\"...","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nYou are somewhat close to truth. But you shouldn't forget that\nnationality is a recent invention of the western europe. In the\ndays of the Ottoman empire, the religion was the main point of\ndifference between social classes. The Ottomans didn't recognize\nTurks, Arabs, Greeks, Serbs... Just christians, muslims, jews...\nSo, for all the interested parties in the Ottoman society the\nbosnian muslims were \"Turks\". After all, there aren't many \"real\" \n(ethnic) Turks living even in Turkey today. Even in Europe, it's\nthe culture that defines the ethnicity and religion is part of\none's culture.\n\n\nCan you support this?","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I cured mine with Bag Balm which I bought at the local farm\nsupply store. It is relatively cheap and works in a few days.\nThe product was developed to treat sore udders. \n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\nUh, Bill James doesn't sell statistics.  He sells books with statistics,\nbut he is not in the business of providing stats like Elias, STATS,\nHowe, Baseball workshop etc. are.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nAnother F2 rider had similiar problems, and this is the mail I sent him,\nhope this helps resolve you problem!\n\nAT\n\n\nGood point, did not catch this in the original post. The only other things \nwhich come to mind, since this is a gravity feed fuel system, is this.\nThe fuel petcock valve is vacuum controlled from the #1 carburator. Let\nsuppose there is a small hole or bad seal either in the hose itself or the\nvacuum valve in the fuel petcock. When it is cold, the hole is open enough\nto open the valve just enough to allow gas to the carbs with the choke on, \nsince the choke creates more low pressure in the carbs when on to draw gas, \nand as the engine and surrounding area warm up, the hole seals up. \n\nOne way to check fuel flow through the valve would be to pull the side \npanels off and remove the fuel hose to the carbs. Connect a tube of the \ncorrect size, preferably clear tubing to observe fuel flow, on the output\nside of the fuel petcock. Remove the control hose from #1 carburator. Make\nsure the tank is full. Place the valve in the ON position and apply vacuum \nto the control hose, preferably with a vacuum device with a gauge, to check \nfor air leaks. With vacuum applied, fuel should flow freely. To see if there is\na vent problem, do this with the fuel filler cap open and closed, if it \nflows a lot faster with the filler cap open, then there may be something in \nthe vent airway which changes position and depending on the position may clog \nor partially clog the vent. I have heard of some F2 fuel tanks being replaced \nto fix this problem. So the things which might be defective are, the control\nhose from #1 carb, the petcock valve, and possibly the fuel tank vent.\n\nNow if all of the above shows no problem of fuel flow when cold, then there \nis something in the carbs screwed up, but there are so many things to check, \nI would be typing all day to list them all! \n\nHere are a few, with everything back together, apply vacuum to the petcock valve\nand open the drain holes on the carbs one by one to check fuel flow. Open up the\nairbox and check for foreign debris or clogged airways on the carbs, there are\nquite a few on each carb.\n\nI hope something is flushed out with all this trouble shooting. If American\nHonda does not resolve this, get MAD AS HELL and report them to the BBB and\ncall the Honda Customer Service HOTLINE. It is a 800 number, but I don't recall\nit off the top of my head. I called just about tires for my F2 and a few days\nlater a customer satisfaction inquiry card arrived at home asking how I liked\nthe support I received, here would be your chance to tell them what you think!","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n        Please tell me where I can get a CD on the Wergo Music label for less\nthan $20.\n\nfoolishly,","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nDamned if you do and Damned if you don't!\n\n\nJust for the record, Egyptian troops were one of the first to be\nstationed there. I can't remember the exact date but it was late last\nyear. In fact, they lost at least one man there as far as I know.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Can anyone provide me a ftp site where I can obtain a online version\nof the Book of Mormon. Please email the internet address if possible.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Stupid question from a new IBM PC user:\n\nI'm going to be selling my Mac and getting a Gateway 2000.\n\nWhat is the difference between IDE HD and SCSI HD?\n\nThe GW 486DX-33V comes with a 250MB Western Digital IDE drive.\nI asked how much more for the Seagate 500MB SCSI drive.\n\nThe guy asked me \"Why are you going with SCSI?\".  I was lost for an answer.\nI just said \"I know Seagate better as a company, from a satisfaction point\nof view\".\n\nAre SCSI drives faster than IDE?  I'm not buying my GW for another 4 months\nor so, but this is a question that has bugged me for a while.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"21 Apr 1993 egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) Writes:\n-->}Sheesh, even a trained attack dog is no match for a human,\n-->}we have *all* the advantages.\n-->\n-->I agree with this 100%. \n--\n--Me, too... for chihuahua's.  The police and the military don't train\n--dobermans and shephards and use them as weapons because they are so\n--easy for the average Joe to defeat barehanded.  You may have opposing\n--thumbs, but the dog has teeth so effective some of yours are named for\n--him.  He has IR vision, better hearing and better smell than you do,\n--and most likely faster reflexes.\n--\n--You're on a motorcycle, he's on paws.  Roll on and blow him off.  He\n--doesn't even have net access.\n--\n--\n--Ed Green\n\nC'mon Ed.........\n\na)  All things have their weak areas\nb)  What's IR....Idiot Response......Dogs have more Rods or Cones (I'm not sure\n    which?) than humans and this allows their eyes to collect more light in lower\n    light conditions. Consequently their colour vision is almost non-existant. I\n    mean, if dogs had built in infra-red vision, the armed forces would be\n    strapping them to missiles instead of paying a quarter million for IR guidance\n    capabilities.\nc)  My dog has net access ! !\n                          \\_\/","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"WANTED - 4 256K 60ns SIPS","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I've got an old Super VGA card manufactured by SAMPO of Taiwan and I'm\nlooking for a Windows 3.1 Driver for it.  It's based on the Cirrus Logic\nCL-GD510A-32PC-B chip.  I've contacted the suppliers here in New Zealand\nand they say that only Windows 2 divers were ever written by the manufacturer.\nSo if there's a V3.1 driver out for this chip set I'd like to know - \npreferably by e-mail at rjwjames@waikato.ac.nz\n                     \nThanks is advance","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Does anybody know where I can get a copy of System 6.0.8L.  It is a modified\nversion of System 6 that will work on the newer Mac models.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"From: db7n+@andrew.cmu.edu (D. Andrew Byler)\n\n1] An english translation of this can be found in:\n   \"The Acts of the Apostles, translated from the Codex Bezae, with an\n   introduction on its Lucan Origin and Importance\", J. M. Wilson\n   (London, 1923).\n\n2] Another work that might be useful is:\n   \"The Acts of the Apostles, a Critical Edition with Introduction and\n   Notes on Selected Passages\", Albert C. Clark (Oxford, 1933;\n   reprinted 1970).\n\n(This is an edition of text of Acts that makes the assumption that the\ntext in Codex Bezae is the more authentic.  I don't know if it\nactually contains an english translation or not.)\n\n3] Another useful that discusses many of the variants in detail is:\n   \"The Theological Tendency of the Codex Bezae Cantabrigiensis in\n   Acts\", Eldon J Epp (Cambridge, 1966).\n\n4] The most recent reference I found was an edition in French from the\nearly '80s.  (I can supply the reference if anyone's interested.)\n\n5] Now, many of the works are going to be difficult to find.  So if\nyou're interested in examining the differences in the long recension\nan excellent (and easily obtainable) discussion can be found in:\n   \"A Textual Commentary on the Greek NT\", Bruce Metzger (United Bible\n   Society, 1971).\n\nMetzger's book serves as a companion volume to the UBS 3rd edition of\nthe Greek NT.  It contains a discussion on the reasoning that went\nbehind the decisions on each of the 1440 variant readings included in\nthe UBS3.  Furthermore, notes on an addition 600 readings are\nincluded in aTCotGNT (the majority of these occur in Acts).\n\n   \"[An attempt was made] to set before the reader a more or less full\n   report (with an English translation) of the several additions and\n   other modifications that are attested by Western witnesses ...\n   Since many of these have no corresponding apparatus in the\n   text-volume, care was taken to supply an adequate conspectus of the\n   evidence that supports the divergent readings.\" (p 272).\n\n\n6] Most of the copies of the text of Acts that we have (including the\nones in Vaticanus and Siniaticus) adher pretty closely to the shorter\n(or Alexandrian) version.  The longer version to which you refer is\nusually called the \"Western\" version and its main witness is the Codex\nBezae (althought there are a few other rather fragmentary sources).\n\n7] As far as size, the difference is that in Clark's edition\n(mentioned above) the book of Acts contains 19,983 words whereas the\ntext edited by Westcott and Hort (a typical Alexandrian text) contains\n18,401 words; i.e. a difference of about 8-1\/2%.\n\n8] To answer the obvious questions, no, there are no major revelations\nin the longer text nor major omissions in the shorter text.  The main\ndifference seems to \"expansion\" of detail in the Western text (or, if\nyou prefer \"contractions\" in the Alexandrian).  The Western text seems\nto be given to more detail.  There are some interesting specific\ncases, but this probably not the place to go into it in detail.\n\n9] The discussion over the years as to which of these versions is the\nmore authentic has been hot and heavy.  If there is anything\napproaching a modern consensus it is (i) that neither text represents\npurely the \"authentic\" version, (ii) each variant reading has to be\nexamined on its own merits however, (iii) the variant in the\nAlexandrian text is the \"better\" more often than not.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nHei Pei.\n\nI can not help you directly width you problem, but there may be\nintermediate roads to take to get to the IFF. I am using a converter\nthat can take IGES, IIF, DXF -> IGES, MILESPEC I IGES, MILESPEC II IGES, \nIIF, MILESPEC I IIF, MILESPEC II IIF  and DXF.\n\nIIF is IBM IGES FORMAT. There may be converters out there that can handle\nIGES to IFF. Hope this was to any help. By the way the converter is part\nof the IGES Processor\/6000 package from IBM and it runs on RS\/6000 AIX.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"TRAILER FOR SALE\n\n1990 Hooper Auto Transport Trailer\n16' x 6.5' Flatbed\n4 Ton Gross Weight Capacity\nTandem Axle Suspension\n7 x 14.5 MH Nylon Tires\nComes With a Spare Tire\nElectric Brakes\nStop Lights & Turn Signals\nLoading Ramps - Tilt for Towing - Removable\nFront Steel Fence - Removable\nStake Sides - for attaching sideboards, tiedowns, etc\nRigged for Hauling Automobile, Tractor, Equipment, etc.\nLess than 4000 miles since new\n\nSerialized, with Title and Registration Papers\n\nFor sale by Original Owner @ $795\n\nBig hook-end chain and 4\" web ratchet tiedown negotiable\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nYou are stuck in a distributed system feedback loop!  What if you are on an\nXterminal or running xterm over the net to another machine?  That is when the\nload problems occur.  If you had a machine with 20 Xterminals attached and\nthey all had blinking cursors in xterm's, this could represent a considerable\nethernet bandwidth waste.\n\nI'm not picking on you, just people keep forgetting that there is a lot of life\nout there besides distributed or singleuser \"Workstations\"!","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"You can't call time when there's a play in progress.\n\nRyan Robbins\nPenobscot Hall\nUniversity of Maine","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n+>Critisism is too easy. What solutions do people have that  would have been\n+>better than what the FBI had been doing for the last few months?\n\n\nAfter the seige began:\n\nSurround the place with Razor wire and then let them sit.  Do not\nhave daily press conferences, do your best to keep things out of\nthe press.\n\n\nAs things get more and more miserable inside, one of two things is\ngoing to happen:\n\n\t1. People will start coming out.\n\n\t2. They will commit suicide in mass at some point.\n\n\nThe thing to remember about (2) is that hysterical situations and \"assults\"\nplay into the hands of a \"leader\" who has picked this course.   Its\nmuch easier to stampede people into something like suicide if there\nis gas coming in and bullets in the air.  Let them be hungry and miserable\nfor longer and longer and it will probably be more effective.\n\n\tThe \"possiblity\" that they would all kill themselves at some\npoint would not bother me in the least or alter tactics.  If people\nare going to take their own lives, the best you can probably do is\nprevent yourself from giving them the opportunity or an excuse to\ndo it.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I appeal to to all of you to show up in Washington DC. this saturday to\nparticipate in a peaceful demonstration for the sake of humanity!! This is a \ncritical point in the history of world and we can make a change otherwise things\nwill not change there in Bosnia.. Rapes\/killings\/ethnic cleansing will\ngo on as a norm in the days to follow. The UN will get to the towns after the fall\nof thousands of inocent civilians (like in Zapa just the past weekend!). It happened\nto the Jews in 1940's, it's happening to the muslims today and who will be the next\nvictim??\n\nSince the Europeans want to remain indifferent in this issue, time has come for US to\ntake a leadership role to stop these crimes against humanity. Time is now and\nthis is for real folks, the people of New England Bosnian Relief Committee seriously believe\nthat Clinton's Adminstration will stop supporting the Bosnian cause without sustained\npublic pressure. I just called Democaratic Sen. John Kerry's office and they are saying that \nhe (the senator) is waiting for president to take a decision, means that he will wait and \njoin the band-wagon later if it ever moves! \n\nPlease don't rely on others to take part in this demonstration -You as an individual\nwill make a big difference. Bring your families too, not only you will help a great\ncause but also it will be fun for all. I know of several families from Massachusetts\nwho are travelling friday night to participate there. Contact the local Islamic center\nor Bosnia relief agency if you want to travel by pre-arranged busses. The best option \nfor students is to rent-a-car and car-pool. Please, spread the word around...\n\n\n\nRegards,\n\nKhalid Chishti \n\nIf you live in Massachusetts and want more info:\n\nCall Ginan (from New England Bosnian Relief Committee): 617-623-1973 \nOR \nNew England Bosnian Relief Committee phone no:  (617) 464-0111\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\nI have the following problem: I have to use a computer for special purposes\nthat doesn't have a monitor and keyboard connected. No monitor isn't a \nprogram - but no keyboard.\nI can't disable the keyboard from BIOS setup (in fact, there is no setup).\nI spoke to someone who said that he had fooled the BIOS with simply\nusing a self-made connector that connects two pins via a resistor.\nPity, pity... I lost contact to the person before getting more detail.\nSo does anyone of you experts can help?\n\nThanks for any hints, even vague ones :-)\n\nThomas","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Depends on the FDC but generally No.  The drive at the end after the twist \nshould be set as Drive 0\nSince you're using the 5.25 as drive A: it should be at the end after the \ntwist with the resistor pack fitted.\nYes\n\nHope this helps.  I had exactly the same problems.  Unfortunately when\nI changed to different machine the problems started again because\nof a different FDC.  Seems (don't flame me, this is mainly guess work\nfrom practicle experience) that some FDC's do different things with the \nselect.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"A few weeks ago I saw an ad in the German magazine c't\nabout a so-called Videostreamer. This is an interface\nbetween a PC's parallel port and any video-recorder for\nbacking up your data on a videotape. The company (DataSave?)\nclaims that it can store up to 7 GB on a 300 minutes tape.\n                         ^^^^^^^^^^\n\nIt costs DM 250.- (about USD 200, I think)\n\nMy question is:\n Does anybody use this product, if yes, how many bytes \n REALLY fit on a 300 minutes tape (7 GB sounds quite\n unbelievable to me). \n\nHowever, any comments on the interface are appreciated.\nPlease mail your replies directly to me, I will sum up\nif neccesary. Thanks in advance...","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Does anyone belong to or know any facts about the\n              Christian Reformed Church?","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nYeah, People act really shocked about violence, as though it were new\nto our species...\n\nWhat about the holocaust? The crusades? The Salem witch trials? The\nreligious persecutions of the middle-ages? \n\nWhat about violent acts carried out in the name of religion all over\nthe world? What about the early Christians put to death by the Romans?\nThe Jews persecuted by Christians?\n\nThere are a lot more humans today than there have ever been. I do not\nknow the stats, but there are far more people on the planet than there\nwere 2 or 3 hundred years ago! The per capita acts of violence are\nprobably not significantly different than they were a hundred or a\nthousand years ago!\n\nThere is nothing new about violence.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nWell, suppose your mother was a crack addict and crack user\/abuser while\nshe was pregnant? Suppose your husband gave you some SDT (this recently\nhappened to a close friend of my wife and mine)?\n\nOFTEN, the consequences of our sin are at least partially inflicted on\ninnocent people. Several times in the OT, this is pointed out, even\nsaying that descendants would suffer consequences for a person's sin\nfor several generations. Even today, we see multi-generational (to\ncoin a phrase) effects from alcoholism, child abuse, and spousal\nabuse just to name three.\n\nSo, God's definition of fair and ours differ.\n\nSome points of perspective:\n\nThough the predisposition towards sinning is now inbred (see Webster's\nfirst definition of inbred) thanks to Adam, it is arrogant and foolish\nfor any of us to think we would have done any different if we were in\ntheir shoes. I know myself pretty well, and I'm just not that good. Take\nGod's word for it, neither are you. \"There is no one righteous...\"\n\nMore important, when a person decides to be a disciple of Jesus, God\npromises supernatural help in overcoming our physical self's sinful\ntendency. We can, of course, choose to ignore this help. (Rom 7,8)\n\n\"...God made mankind upright, but men have gone in search of many\nschemes.\" -Eccl\n\nMark","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"hartzman@kilroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Les Hartzman) writes...\n\n\nLes,\n\n\tI am right now working on an MPR-II certified (Swedish standards for\nlow emissions) Hitachi Superscan 15 monitor.  It's 1024x768, up to 72hz at\nthat res, and it got a good write-up for image quality in a recent (Feb.?)\nissue of PC Magazine.  As far as I know, very little fully matches a NEC in\nimage quality (at least according to the mags -- I can't tell any\ndifference between the two!), but I think NEC is low emissions on only one\nof the two types.  There's VLF (Very Low Frequency) and ELF (I think that's\nExtremely Low Frequency).  The MPR-II standards set strict limits on both.\nBut many comapnies, NEC included according to one article I read (I get a\nbunch of mags so it's hard for me to remember which!), which claim \"low\nemissions\" but not specifically \"MPR-II Compliant\" or \"MPR-II Certified\"\nonly control for one, usually VLF, and ignore the other.\n\tSo, the NEC probably has higher overall image quality (I consis-\ntently hear it rated as the best or close to the best), but not as low\nemissions as the Hitachi.  I like my image quality, but for all I know you\nmay be more discerning.  Good luck!\n\n\t\t\t\t\t- Mitch\n \t\t\t\t\tv063kcbp@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Due it seems to Sun's crapulous organisation of the X libraries and includes,\nmost standard (GNU and other) software won't compile out of the box (well, tar\nfile). \n\nRight now I'm trying to make ghostview. It complains it can't find X11\/XaW\/...\nso I just linked (ln -s) the files from \/usr\/openwin\/share\/include\/X11 and \nnow the ghoddam thing _still_ complains it can't find them.\n\nI still haven't been able to compile xdvi, not no way.\n\nHas anyone _ever_ managed to get _anything_ normal to compile on a Sun\n(SunOS 4.1.3 and OpenWindows 3)? What's the trick I'm missing? I've even \ntried hard copying all the relevant files into the \"right\" places and\nevery time, there's some bit missing or it refuses to find it.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\t  The Catholic doctrine of predestination does not exclude free\n   will in any way.  Since God knows everything, He therefore knows\n   everything that is going to happen to us.  We have free will, and\n   are able to change what happens to us.  However, since God knows\n   everything, He knows all the choices we will make \"in advance\" (God\n   is not subject to time).  Too often arguments pit predestination\n   against free will.  We believe in both.\n\nThat last sentence of Steve's is an important one to remember.\n\nThere are certain things in the Catholic religion that cannot be\ncompletely comprehended by a human being.  Were this not the case, it\nwould be good evidence that the religion was man-made.\n\nIn the case of predestination, you have to reconcile two things that\nwould at first appear to be irreconcilable: the sovereignty of God's\nwill over all things, and man's free will in deciding his own fate.\nCatholics believe in both!  But that doesn't mean that anyone has come\nup with a pat reconciliation...","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I have some more 35mm slide projectors for sale regardless for my first post.\n\nAll with new light bulb, no lens, no remote controller.\n\nAll inperfect working condition.\n\n1. Kodak Carousel 800 non-AF\n\t$60\n2. Kodak carousel 760H autofocus\n\t$85\n3. Singer Caramate II, w\/built-in lens, casette player non-AF\n\t$40\n4. Singer Caramate SP, w\/built-in lens, casette player non-AF\n\t$45","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I have uploaded the most recent Windows drivers for the Cirrus GD5426 \nchip based display cards to the uploads directory at ftp.cica.indiana.edu\n (file is 5426dr13.zip). They're very recent, I downloaded them from the \nCirrus BBS (570-226-2365) last night. If you are unable to get them there, \nemail me and maybe I can upload them to some other sites as well.  \nI have a local bus based card (VL24 Bitblaster from Micron) but I think \nthe drivers work with ISA cards (or at least includes drivers for them).\n\nI found the new drivers to be a significant improvement over the 1.2 version, \nimproving my graphic winmarks (v3.11) by about 2 million (7.77 to 9.88) \nalthough this could be the result of intentional benchmark cheating on \nCirrus's part but I don't think so.\n\nFrom Steve Gibson's (columnist for Info World) graphic card comparisons \n(also found at the cica ftp site under the name winadv.zip) I extracted the \nfollowing for the sake of comparison:\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\tWintach\n             \t\tWinbn3.11\tWord\tSprsht\tCad\tPaint\tOverall\nSteve's system:\n486\/33 VLB:\nATI Graphics Ultra Pro\t  9.33\t\t10.34\t 20.78\t8.28\t14.90\t 13.58\n\nmy system -\n486sx\/33 VLB:\nVL24 Bitblaster\t\t  9.88\t\t 8.65\t 11.71\t18.84\t15.40\t 13.65\n\n\nIts no Viper, but I think its a hell of a deal at about a third of the cost of \nthe ATI card and when compared to the other cards included in Gibson's review.\n\nMicron system owner's, I would be interested to hear your opinions on the \nDTC 2270VL local bus disk controller. My system came with a Maxtor 7120 \ndrive (120 MB) and at first was only giving me disk winmarks of about 16 Kb\/s, \nI am now at 22 Kb\/s. Is this about as good as it gets? I can't get a Norton's\nsysinfo disk reading because the contoller intercepts the calls, at \nleast that was what the program said.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"...\n\nWell, lets for a hypothetical put our selves in the place of the US end\nof the drug rings. What do we do about the Cripple chip? First off, we\nwould express disaproval to our congress critters, and remind them of the\nlarge sums of money our legitimate co.s provide to their campain coffers. We\nwould also let them know via the 'other' channels that a) their income is about\nto take a hit, and b) their health may not be too good either.\n\nBut just in case, the next obvious step to take is to BUY Mycotoxic and VLSI!\nYeah, free enterprise at work. :-) Now they have the Cripple in their pockets,\nliteraly as well as figurativly. Tough about the masses though.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"F O R   S A L E\n\t\t\t================\n\n\t\tTriumph Spitfire '76, 1500\n                - Convertible\n\t        - 54,000k original miles\n\t\t- Burgandy Color\n\t\t- Wooden Dashboard\n                - No rust\n\t\t- Garage kept\n\t\t- Heater\n\t\t- Chrome bumpers(not the black plastic crap)\n\t\t- Brand new top\n\t\t- Asking $3,000 --negotiable\n\t\n\t* Mechanically the car is in a very good shape and it is running\n          very-very strong(if you know what I mean)...:)\n\t* Plenty of catalogs and manuals are coming with the car \n\n\tIf you are interested in the car please reply to this message.\n\n\n\t\tI AM NOT INTERESTED OR WILLING TO SELL ANY PARTS.\n\t\tThe car is in a very good condition to strip it.\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Does anyone know of any free X-servers for PCs, preferably that run under\nMS Windows? THANKS.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n\nDon't be so vague. Let us reexamine it - shall we?\n\n\n \n\nHere you descend into total inanity. Your inability to distinguish\nbetween 'the cold-blooded genocide of Muslim people by the Armenians' \nand 'the Armenian war' is incredible. Now, please provide us with your \ncorrections.\n\nSource: Stanford J. Shaw, on Armenian collaboration with invading Russian\narmies in 1914, \"History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey (Volume\nII: Reform, Revolution & Republic: The Rise of Modern Turkey, 1808-1975).\"\n(London, Cambridge University Press 1977). pp. 315-316.\n\n\"In April 1915 Dashnaks from Russian Armenia organized a revolt in the city \n of Van, whose 33,789 Armenians comprised 42.3 percent of the population, \n closest to an Armenian majority of any city in the Empire...Leaving Erivan \n on April 28, 1915, Armenian volunteers reached Van on May 14 and organized \n and carried out a general slaughter of the local Muslim population during \n the next two days.\"\n\n\"Knowing their numbers would never justify their territorial ambitions,\n Armenians looked to Russia and Europe for the fulfillment of their aims.\n Armenian treachery in this regard culminated at the beginning of the First\n World War with the decision of the revolutionary organizations to refuse\n to serve their state, the Ottoman Empire, and to assist instead other\n invading Russian armies. Their hope was their participation in the Russian\n success would be rewarded with an independent Armenian state carved out of\n Ottoman territories. Armenian political leaders, army officers, and common\n soldiers began deserting in droves.\"\n\n\"With the Russian invasion of eastern Anatolia in 1914 at the beginning of\n World War I, the degree of Armenian collaboration with the Ottoman's enemy\n increased drastically. Ottoman supply lines were cut by guerilla attacks,\n Armenian revolutionaries armed Armenian civil populations, who in turn\n massacred the Muslim population of the province of Van in anticipation of\n expected arrival of the invading Russian armies.\"\n\n\"...Meanwhile, Czar Nicholas II himself came to the Caucasus to make final\n plans for cooperation with the Armenians against the Ottomans, with the \n president of the Armenian National Bureau in Tiflis declaring in response:\n\n 'From all countries Armenians are hurrying to enter the ranks of the \n  glorious Russian Army, with their blood to serve the victory of Russian\n  arms...Let the Russian flag wave freely over the Dardanelles and the\n  Bosporus. Let, with Your will, great Majesty, the peoples remaining\n  under the Turkish yoke receive freedom. Let the Armenian people of Turkey\n  who have suffered for the faith of Christ receive resurrection for a new\n  free life under the protection of Russia.'[155]\n\nArmenians again flooded into the czarist armies. Preparations were made\nto strike the Ottomans from the rear, and the czar returned to St. Petersburg\nconfident that the day finally had come for him to reach Istanbul.\"\n\n[155] Horizon, Tiflis, November 30, 1914, quoted by Hovannisian, \"Road to\nIndependence,\" p. 45; FO 2485, 2484\/46942, 22083.\n\n\"Ottoman morale and military position in the east were seriously hurt, and\n the way was prepared for a new Russian push into eastern Anatolia, to be\n accompanied by an open Armenian revolt against the sultan.[156]\"\n\n[156] Hovannisian, \"Road to Independence,\" pp. 45-47; Bayur, III\/1, \npp. 349-380; W.E.D. Allen and P. Muratoff, \"Caucasian Battlefields,\"\nCambridge, 1953, pp. 251-277; Ali Ihsan Sabis, \"Harb Hahralaram,\" 2 vols.,\nAnkara, 1951, II, 41-160; FO 2146 no. 70404; FO 2485; FO 2484, nos.\n46942 and 22083.\n\n\"An Armenian state was organized at Van under Russian protection, and it \n appeared that with the Muslim natives dead or driven away, it might be\n able to maintain itself at one of the oldest centers of ancient Armenian\n civilization. An Armenian legion was organized 'to expel the Turks from\n the entire southern shore of the lake in preparation for a concerted\n Russian drive into the Bitlis vilayet.'[162] Thousands of Armenians from\n Mus and other major centers in the east began to flood into the new \n Armenian state...By mid-July there were as many as 250,000 Armenians\n crowded into the Van area, which before the crisis had housed and fed\n no more than 50,000 people, Muslim and non-Muslim alike.[163]\"\n\n[162] Hovannisian, \"Road to Independence,\" p. 56; FOP 2488, nos. 127223 and\n58350.\n\n[163] BVA, Meclis-i Vukela Mazbatalari, debates of August 15-17, 1915; \nBabi-i Ali Evrak Odasi, no. 175, 321, \"Van Ihtilali ve Katl-i Ami,\"\nZilkade 1333\/10 September 1915.\n\n\nI went through this just a few weeks ago; here it comes again. The \nentire Turkish population of Armenia (which Armenians called Tartars) \nconstituted at least about 40% of the total population of Armenia \nwas deliberately exterminated. (For the population statistics, please \nlook to the book of Richard Hovannessian, \"Armenia on the Road to \nIndependence.\") I listed three books earlier of such a monstrous crime \nby the writings of one Armenian, one American, and one British. They \nare: \"Men Are Like That\" by Leonard R. Hartill; \"Adventures in the Near \nEast\" by A. Rawlinson; \"World Alive, A Personal Story\" by Robert Dunn. \nAlso, I personally have copies of documents of this crime by the writings \nof two Armenians and also one American. The official British report about \nthis massacre mentioned in one of these documents (Lord Curzon-Aharonin \ninterview) is the report of the British High Commissioner to Caucasia, \nSir Oliver Wardrop.\n\n\n\"An appropriate analogy with the Jewish Holocaust might be the\n systematic extermination of the entire Muslim population of \n the independent republic of Armenia which consisted of at \n least 30-40 percent of the population of that republic. The \n memoirs of an Armenian army officer who participated in and \n eye-witnessed these atrocities was published in the U.S. in\n 1926 with the title 'Men Are Like That.' Other references abound.\"\n     (Rachel A. Bortnick - The Jewish Times - June 21, 1990)\n\nNeed I go on?\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I am currently searching for old video tapes of music groups of the early\n80's to the late 80's.  At first I requested VHS formats, but now i'm accepting\neither VHS, 8MM, OR BETA.  The type of format i'm interested in are the\ntype that most nite clubs or trendy clothing stores play.  If you do have any\nof these tapes just send me a reply with a few groups listed, i'll reply back\nif the groups listed are the type i'm searching for.  I'll gladly pay you what\nthey are worth or trade for other movie or music videos, thanks.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Sorry Charlie...\n\nI have a dozen, VERY blue LED's on my bench right now. They have\na clear plastic case and when lit, are absolutely BLUE. The hue\nis sort of a \"summer day cloudless sky blue\" but make no mistake,\nthey are blue.\n\nYou can buy them from Digikey, Circuit Specialist, Jameco (I think),\nLED-Tronics, Stanley Optoelectronics, and others. The current price\nis around $2.50 each for small quantities. I will also be selling\nthem through my mail-order company in the near future (4 weeks).\nWrite for details if interested.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":":Read the xterm's manual pages for more informations about the avaliable\n:actions of xterm. Read the FAQ and get a good book on customizing your\n:X applications.\n\nOkay, I will byte.  Could someone provide more info on a 'good book on\ncustomizing your X applicaitons'?  I am in search of one which does NOT\nexpect the reader to have the X11 source code memorized (or even available\nonline!)\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Sorry all the personal replies I sent about help with UnlockFolder\ngot\neaten by my mail program (my fault), so I'd like to thank everyone\nwho sent me info!\n\n   Kristen Lepa\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":": Nothing, but if you read my WHOLE suggestion, I'm saying that you register\n: via MAIL by mailing in your registration card, THEN the company send you\n: the patch which includes the info you put on the registration card.\n\nThe problem with this scheme, is that when I buy a game, I want to play it\n*THAT* day...mailing a card to and from California would probably take a week\nor more.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"qpalo@digi.lonestar.org (Gerry Palo)\n\n\nFor my money the primary danger of anti-cult groups is that they are\nevery bit as wacky as the groups they oppose and that by and large\nthey have no compunctions about printing lies, half-truths and\nmisleading innuendos as part of their exposes.  A recent book on\ncults I picked up by a \"Christian\" author quite simply mixed in\nall non-Christian religions (except the Jews) and various New Age\ngroups with various fringe groups of dubious intent and legality.\n\n\nGiven the record of American Christianity, any group that falls\ninto the category of fundamentalist or born-again is automatically\ninto the Inquisition business.  It is an unavoidable affliction\nof those who have a proprietary license on The Truth (tm).\nAnd let's not forget that Jonestown and the Branch Davidians are\njust as much a part of the Christian tradition as the Missouri Synod\nLutherans, and may in fact be the Massadas of true Christian believers.\n\nI am far more concerned about the encroachment of overtly Christian\nindoctrination into public schools than I am about yoga classes there.\n\nFor those concerned with religious freedom without a selective\ninquisitiorial bent:\n\nPeople for the American Way\nP.O. Box 96200\nWashington, DC 20077-7500\n\nAmericans United for Separation of Church & State\n8120 Fenton Street\nSilver Spring, MD 20910-9978","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nProtestants love to play up Jerome for all he is worth. They should\nremeber that after the Decree of Pope St. Damsus I, Jerome did not\nhesitate in accpeting the deuteroncanon, and quoted them as Scripture in\nhis later writings.  And as I have already pointed out, in a previous\nletter on this subject, the Catholic Church has accepted the\ndeuterocanon from the beginning.  And the Protestants in the 1500's all\nof a sudden revived the old theory of some, condemned by Pope, Council,\nand Church, that the deuterocanon were not inspired.\n\nAgain, why must the Church of Jesus Christ adopt the canon of the\nunbelieving Jews, drawn up in Jamnia in 90 AD, in countering the\nChristian use of the Septuagint.                 ^^^^^","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\tSorry to be contradictory, but... I've had my Nighthawk at 45 degress\nwith the horizon and I wasn't banked over in a turn...  \n\tThe hard part is getting the front in off the ground.  I rev to about \n7,000 at DROP the clutch.   Even harder is keeping it from coming up to far--\nI use the back brake as well as the throttle.  Once its up, it'll wheelie just\nlike any other bike.      ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Hi Netters,\n\tHaving inherited a Solbourne (S-4000 : Sun 4 Compatible), I was wondering\nif somebody has ported X11R5 to this beast. Since Solbournce Computer Inc. folded\nup I don't know where I can get the kernel to move from R4. Since they never\njoined the MIT Consortium, the regular distribution doesn't work. Any pointers\nwill be highly appreciated.\n\nJulian","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I am looking for an available program that would convert gif\nfiles to other formats usable on DOS-based software such\nas WordPerfect Presentations (which will handle .wpg and .tiff,\namong others).  \n\nAny suggestions would be appreciated.  Thank you very much for\nyour time and help.\n\nSteve\nalford@novavax.nova.edu\n  ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Anybody know where I can get Graphics Work Shop?","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":": What exactly does the windows bitmap format look like? I mean, how is\n: the data stored: width, height, no. of colours, bitmap data? I couldn't\n: find anything in ths user manual, is there any other reference material\n: which would give me this information?","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I've been thinking about how difficult it would be to make PGP available\nin some form on EBCDIC machines.  The message authentication would be ugly,\nbut I think at least the IDEA encryption could work, if PGP had a switch\nto tell it to use IDEA in OFB-mode or ECB-mode.  In OFB-mode, errors in\ntranslating EBCDIC-->ASCII-->EBCDIC would only affect their byte, not the\n16 bytes that would be affected under CBC.\n   Is PGP set up to use different IDEA modes?  I don't recall notincing it\nin the executable, but I haven't gone through it as carefully as I probably\nshould....","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n   I was wondering if anyone knows of a graphics package for the PC that\n   will do compositing of a series of pictures?\n\n   What I mean by \"compositing\" is, say I have a live video clip\n   (digitized) panning around a living room, and a computer-generated\n   bird flying around the screen.  I want to combine these two series of\n   pictures so that everywhere where the bird frames are black, I want\n   the living room picture to show through.  Yes, I realize I can do this\n   with a genlock, and I do own a genlock, but I want to be able to do\n   manual compositing also.  It's ok if I have to composite one frame at\n   a time; I assumed I'd have to do that anyway.  But being able to\n   composite a series of frames would be even better.\n\n   I've looked around and I haven't found a PC package that will perform\n   this.  Help, please!\n\nIf you can get the live animation and the computer-generated animation\ninto AutoDesk Animator .FLI or .FLC format, AutoDesk Animator will do\nthis for you.  It can take one animation, make a certain color\n\"clear\", and overlay it over another animation.  I do not have a way\nright now to convert .AVI or .MPG files to animator files.  Animator\nwill also import a series of .GIF files to create an animation, so if\nyour video capture stuff can create this is might work.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n2 simple reasons:\n\n(1)   Batting Williams ahead of Bonds will create a Left(Clark), \n      Right(Williams), Left(Bonds) situation in the middle of the\n      batting order.  This makes it tougher for opposing manager\n      to change pitchers.\n\n(2)   Having Bonds batting behind Williams means that Matt will get\n      more good pitches to hit.  This is important since he struggles\n      so much with breaking balls.  Opposing pitchers don't want to\n      walk Williams to get to Bonds.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nThe Jerusalem Post is only a small part of the Israeli media ( One\nthat caters to outsiders for the most part, anyways).\n\nIf you never read Ha'aretz, Maariv, or other Hebrew langauge papers\n, or at least seen some of their articles translated, you are not\nreally getting the Israeli media.\n\n\n\n\n\n\nInlcuding some of the left-leaning ones?\n\n\n\nA -6 to a -10? Is that why stations such as PBS have run shows which\ndo not depict the Israeli standpoint at all?\n\nIS that why the Intifada got more coverage in 1987 and 1988 than did\nSaddamn gassing Kurds by the thousands?\n\n\n\n\n\nI am from Montreal. I read the Suburban. Did they ever advocate the\nKahane stupidity of expelling the Arabs? Are they racist?\n\nThe Suburban has some columnists that explain the Israeli standpoint.\n\nThey are nothing like Kahane. IN any case, the Suburban is a paper\nwith a minor local distribution and no influence.\n\n\n\n\nSo what source is the closest thing to a zero?\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":":> :\n:> : Basically, the Mac Pluses are constantly rebooting themselves, as if the\n:> : reboot button were being pushed.  Sometimes the Mac is able to fully boot\n:\n\nwell this threads been going long enough... I'll add a diferent twist.\n\nI found that the constant rebooting was due to overheating. We \nhad added 4Mb ram, and were operating in a non AC environment.\nAdding an external cooling fan fixed it right up. ( over a\nyear ago )\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":" \t\nIf, if, if....  Anyway, the question was if the gun was identifiable, which\nit is.\n\n-Tim","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I would like to know if their is any medical consensus\n(or consensus within this group) regarding the ethics\nof the following:\n\n  1: Prescription of placebo medications when the patient\n     did not specifically request any sort of treatment.\n\n  2: Selling a placebo medication for a profit.\n\n  3: Prescribing homeopathic remedies without advising\n     a patient of their \"controversial nature\".\n\n  4: Representing homeopathic remedies as \"over the counter\"\n     medications.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Sorry about the delay in responding, due to conference paper deadline panic.\n\n\n[Alarming amounts of agreement deleted :-)]\n\n\nThat (\"complicated\") isn't in fact where P(H) > P(HG) comes from; it's more\nthe other way around. It's from\n\n  P(H)  =  P(HG) +  P(HG')  where G' is the complement of G\n\nand by axiom, P(anything) >= 0, so P(HG') >= 0, so P(H) >= P(HG).\n\nIn a sense, HG is necessarily more \"complicated\" than H for any H and G,\nso I may be splitting hairs, but what I'm trying to say is that irrespective\nof subjective impressions of how complicated something is, P(H) >= P(HG)\nholds, with equality if and only if P(HG') = 0.\n\n\nWell, \"P(x | A) = P(x | B)\" means that x is as likely to be observed if A is\noperative as it is if B is operative. This implies that observing x does not\nprovide any useful information which might allow us to discriminate between\nthe respective possibilities that A and B are operative; the difference\nreduces to the difference between the (unknown and unhelpful) prior\nprobabilities P(A) and P(B):\n\n  P(x | A) = P(x | B)  ==>\n\n    P(A | x)  =  k P(A),   and   P(B | x)  =  k P(B)\n\nwhere k  =  P(x | A) \/ P(x)  =  P(x | B) \/ P(x).\n\nSo A and B are \"equally consistent with the data\" in that observing x\ndoesn't give any pointers as to which of A or B is operative.\n\nIn the particular case where A = H and B = HG, however, we know that their\nprior probabilities are ordered by P(H) >= P(HG), although we don't know\nthe actual values, and it's this which allows us to deploy the Razor to\nthrow out any such HG.\n\n\nThat's certainly true, but the particular point here was whether or\nnot a `divine component' actually underlies the prevalence of religion\nin addition to the memetic transmission component, which even the religious\nimplicitly acknowledge to be operative when they talk of `spreading the word'.\n\nNow it seems to me, as I've said, that the observed variance in religious\nbelief is well accounted for by the memetic transmission model, but rather\n*less* well if one proposes a `divine component' in addition, since I would\nexpect the latter to conspire *against* wide variance and even mutual\nexclusion among beliefs. Thus my *personal* feeling is that P(x | HG) isn't\neven equal to P(x | H) in this case, but is smaller (H is memetic transmission,\nG is `divine component', x is the variance among beliefs). But I happily\nacknowledge that this is a subjective impression.\n\n\nNot that I'm a statistician as such either, but:\n\nThe idea is that both theism and atheism are compatible with all of\nthe (read `my') observations to date. However, theism (of the type with\nwhich I am concerned) *also* suggests that, for instance, prayer may be\nanswered, people may be miraculously healed (both are in principle amenable\nto statistical verification) and that god\/s may generally intervene in\nmeasurable ways.\n\nThis means that these regions of the space of possible observations, \nwhich I loosely termed \"appearances of god\/s\", have some nonzero\nprobability under the theistic hypothesis and zero under the atheistic.\n\nSince there is only so much probability available for each hypothesis to\nscatter around over the observation space, the probability which theism\nexpends on making \"appearances of god\/s\" possible must come from somewhere\nelse (i.e. other possible observations).\n\nAll else being equal, this means that an observation which *isn't* an\n\"appearance of god\/s\" must have a slightly higher probability under\natheism than under theism. The Bayesian stuff implies that such\nobservations must cause my running estimate for the probability of\nthe atheistic hypothesis to increase, with a corresponding decrease\nin my running estimate for the probability of the theistic hypothesis.\n\nSorry if that's still a bit jargonesque, but it's rather difficult to\nput it any other way, since it does depend intimately on the properties\nof conditional probability densities, and particularly that the total\narea under them is always unity.\n\nAn analogy may (or may not :-) be helpful. Say that hypothesis A is \"the\ncoin is fair\", and that B is \"the coin is unfair (two-headed)\". (I've\nused A and B to avoid confusion with H[heads] and T[tails].)\n\nThen\n\n  P(H | A) = 0.5  }  total 1\n  P(T | A) = 0.5  }\n\n  P(H | B) = 1    }  total 1\n  P(T | B) = 0    }\n\nThe observations are a string of heads, with no tails. This is compatible\nwith both a fair coin (A) and a two-headed coin (B). However, the probability\nexpended by A on making possible the appearance of tails (even though they\ndon't actually appear) must come from somewhere else, since the total must\nbe unity, and it comes in this case from the probability of the appearance\nof heads.\n\nSay our running estimates at time n-1 are e[n-1](A) and e[n-1](B). The\nobservation x[n] at time n is another head, x[n] = H. The estimates are\nmodified according to\n\n                            P(H | A)\n  e[n](A)   =   e[n-1](A) * --------   =   e[n-1](A) * m\n                              P(H)\n\nand\n\n                            P(H | B)\n  e[n](B)   =   e[n-1](B) * --------   =   e[n-1](B) * 2m\n                              P(H)\n\nNow we don't know P(H), the *actual* prior probability of a head, but\nthe multiplier for e(A) is half that for e(B). This is true every time\nthe coin is tossed and a head is observed.\n\nThus whatever the initial values of the estimates, after n heads, we have\n\n                 n\n  e[n](A)   =   m  e[0](A)\n\nand\n                    n\n  e[n](B)   =   (2m)  e[0](B),\n\nand since e[k](A) + e[k](B) = 1 at any time k, you can show that 0.5 < m < 1\nand thus 1 < 2m < 2. Hence the estimate for the fair-coin hypothesis A must\ndecrease at each trial and that for the two-headed coin hypothesis B must\nincrease, even though both hypotheses are compatible with a string of heads.\n\nThe loose analogy is between \"unfair coin\" and atheism, and between \"fair\ncoin\" and theism, with observations consistent with both. A tail, which\nwould falsify \"unfair coin\", is analogous to an \"appearance of god\/s\",\nwhich would falsify atheism. I am *not* claiming that the analogy extends\nto the numerical values of the various probabilities, just that the principle\nis the same.\n\n\n\nQuite so, but this type of theism is what I might call \"the G in the HG\",\nin terms of our Ockham's Razor discussion, and I'd bin it on those grounds.\n\n\nThe hypotheses don't have to be falsifiable, and indeed in my `model',\nthe theism isn't falsifiable.\n\n\n\nYou don't have to. We don't need, in the above analogy, to know *any*\nprior probabilities to deduce that the updating multiplier for the\nfair-coin hypothesis is less than unity, and that the corresponding\nmultiplier for the two-headed coin hypothesis is greater than unity.\nYou don't need to know the initial values of the running estimates\neither. It's clear that after a large number of observations, P(fair-coin)\napproaches zero and P(two-headed-coin) approaches unity.\n\nAll you need to know is whether P(x | Ha) is larger than P(x | Ht) for\nobserved x, and this follows from the assumptions that there are certain\nevents rendered *possible* (not necessary) under Ht which are not possible\nunder Ha, and all else is equal.\n\n\nAny observations you like; it really doesn't matter, nor affect the\nreasoning, provided that there are some possible observations which\nwould count as \"appearances of god\/s\". Examples of this might be\na demonstration of the efficacy of prayer, or of the veracity of\nrevelation.\n\n\n\nOK, we'll downgrade \"*does* interact\" to \"*may* interact\", which would\nactually be better since \"does interact\" implies a falsifiability which\nwe both agree is misplaced.\n\n\nI'll explain, but bear in mind that this isn't central; all I require of\na theism is that it *not* make the prediction \"Appearances of god\/s will\nnever happen\", as does atheism. (Before somebody points out that quantum\nmechanics doesn't make this prediction either, the difference is that\nQM and atheism do not form a partition.)\n\nPredictions include such statements as \"Prayer is efficacious\" (implying\n\"If you do the stats, you will find that Prayer is efficacious\"), or \"Prayer\nis *not* efficacious\", or \"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not\npass, till all these things be fulfilled.\" I don't think we have any problems\nof misunderstanding here.\n\n\n\nThat's fine; I don't claim that theism is false, merely that the [finite\nnumber of] observations available to me so far suggest that it is, and\nthat as I continue to observe, the suggestion looks better and better.\n\n\n\n\nI think you are; an \"appearance of god\/s\" is sufficient to falsify\natheism, whereas in general the corresponding theism is unfalsifiable.\n\n\nNo: by way of a counterexample, let X = \"the coin is fair\", or more\naccurately (so that not(X) makes sense) \"the two sides of the coin are\ndifferent\". This is unfalsifiable by tossing the coin; even a string of\nheads is consistent with a fair coin, and you have to go to an infinite\nnumber of tosses to falsify X in the limit. Its converse is falsifiable,\nand is falsified when at least one head and at least one tail have appeared.\n\n\n\n\nOops. Sorry. Mea culpa.\n\n\nWe agree here.\n\n\n\"The Rapture will not happen on October 28 1992.\" Said Rapture would have\nfalsified atheism to my satisfaction had it happened, although its failure\nto happen does not, of course, falsify any theisms other than those which\nspecifically predicted it.\n\n\"No phenomenon which requires the existence of one or more gods for its\nexplanation will ever be observed.\" That about sums the whole thing up.\n\n\nCheers\n\nSimon","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":": Ok, what's more important to gay Christians?  Sex, or Christianity?\n: Christianity I would hope.  Would they be willing to forgo sex\n: completely, in order to avoid being a stumbling block to others,\n: to avoid the chance that their interpretation might be wrong,\n: etc?  If not, why not?  Heterosexuals abstain all the time.\n: (It would be nice if protestant churches had celibate orders\n: to show the world that sex is not the important thing in life)\n\nThe difference is that straight members are given the choice of\nabstaining or not, and celibacy is recognized as a gift, given only\nto some.  Gays are told that, as a condition of acceptance, they\n_must_ be celibate.  I don't believe that God gives me a forced choice\nbetween having a relationship with God and expressing my heterosexuality\n(within the context of a faithful relationship).  Nor do I believe\nthat God gives that forced choice to gays.  Sex or Christianity is a\nfalse dichotomy.\n\n: To tell the truth, gay churches remind me a lot of Henry the VIII\n: starting the Church of England in order to get a divorce (or is\n: this a myth).  Note that I am not denying that gay Christians are\n: Christian.\n\nFor my part, gay churches remind me of blacks starting their own churches\neither because they were not allowed at all in the white churches, or, at\nbest, only with special restrictions that did not apply to white members.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n[ description deleted]\n\nany idea on prices??","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"How does the 16 bit color of HDTV work ? It can not be 5 bit Red Green and\nBlue like on the Macintosh. This gives only 64 gray levels.\n\nApple also has developed a point-point network that is around 200MB (not\nsure if it is bits or bytes) per sec.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nThe suggestion that they Davidians committed suicide is\ncompletely without evidence.  Except for the editorials...\n\nPlease re-word.  \"propensity for allegedly dousing themselves\".\n\nOh, and the survivors claim the the FBI started the burning\nby accidentally igniting kerosene lanterns (remember that they'd\nalready cut the power), and the propane tanks.  This sounds\na lot more likely than committing suicide by setting the place\nafire.\n\n--D","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nNo.  The blue LEDs sold down the street are in milky-white plastic.  \n\nAnd, fyi, putting a filter on a \"typical visible light LED\" (presumably meaning\na non-blue one) won't produce blue light.  A filter can only block light, it\ncan't generate wavelengths that aren't there to start with.  ","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nFirst, a longer game in no way suggests \"more baseball to watch,\" unless\nyou include watching the grass grow as baseball.  The lengthier games\nare so because of batters stepping out of the box, pitchers taking\nlonger between pitches and excessive trips to the mound by managers\nand pitching coaches.\n\nAnd while it's true that the gaps between plays can be interesting, this\nis only true when they don't become extra-long.  Quickly-pitched games\ncan grab and hold your attention much better.\n\nBring back the two-hour baseball game!  (And the three and a half hour\ngolf game with it!)","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n[a lot of stuff deleted -- i'm focusing on just one point]\n\ni'm a little confused about the difference between this \"weak atheism\",\nas you put it, and agnosticism.  is agnosticism not believing or\nnecessarily disbelieving in anything, or what is it?  i used to be\nagnostic (by this definition) -- but if weak atheism includes not\nnecessarily believing in God, then i guess i was one of those.  ???\n\nactually what i have a hard time understanding is people who do not\never decide what they believe.  i am constantly in a state of\nself-examination, as it would appear many others are as well (including the\natheists, of course -- i'd assume that's why they're here!).  i guess\nsome people don't really consider it important to think about the\nanswers to \"life, the universe and everything\" -- any comment?  just\nwondering....\n\n\ntough call, as these things seem to be based on faith -- wish i could\nhelp you, but i already tried once with someone who was a\nself-professed agnostic-thinking-of-becoming-a -christian, and it\ndidn't work too well!  especially tough as i'm still mulling over\nwhether or not i believe in miracles (looks like another email to my\nchaplain is coming up....).  all i can do is wish you the best of\nluck, and please do post what you find.\n\n\nhmm, how so?  i guess i really don't understand.  there are times, of\ncourse, when i say to myself \"of course i have absolutely no way of\nknowing that what i believe in is true except the satisfaction and\nsense of peace i get from it -- which of course could just be\npsychological\".  somehow i live with this anyway -- is this what you\nmean?\n\nthe only \"proof\" i have is that i believe God spoke to me once --\nwhich could of course be my own imagination.  the odd thing is,\nthough, that if you don't at some point start believing in something,\nafter a while it all gets sort of ridiculous.  maybe it's just a\nquestion of where you draw the line.\n\n\ni'll only add one question -- have you read pascal?  what did you\nthink of him if you did?\n\nalso you may (or may not) be interested by cslewis\/ _surprised by\njoy_.  i'd be interested in knowing what you think of him, no sarcasm\nat all intended.  (i just say this because one can never know how\none's written words will be interpreted.  i am not interested in\nconverting you, since i don't seem to have whatever it would take --\nproof -- to do so.  i'm just interested in learning.)\n\n\ni like this.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
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{"text":"\nDon't feed it so much.\nSeriously.\n\n\nSort of like that scene in \"10\", in the minister's study, when the\nsecretary lets one fly, and the startled dog runs from the room.\nThe minister explains, \"Every time Mrs. Soandso breaks wind, we beat the dog.\"\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nIt seems to me that the original question was for advice on his problem\nnot a history lesson - I think that  if this question comes up from time\nto time then people should get a civil answer \n\n\n\n\nCould ANYONE please explain WHAT happens with a battery and is there any\ncure to get it back into life\n  \n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nPick up a copy of PC Magazine or Byte, and look in the classifieds and\nsmall-print ads in the back. There are a handful of shops that specialize\nin BIOS upgrades.\n\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"My 486DX2-50 has 8MB of 70ns RAM and a Trident SVGA card. Sometimes I feel it\nruns very slowly, especially when running Windows.\n\nI'm planning to buy an ATI Graphic Ultra + next semester. Is that all I need\nto get the problem solved? Is 70ns RAM chips too slow for my machine? Do faster\nRAM chips make a big difference?\n\nI use CAD software on my computer as well. Do those up-grades good enough to\nspeed it up a lot? Any one experienced the difference between ISA bus and VL bus(both with a graphic accelerator)?\n\n(A SCSI controller may not be appropriate, since I may have to replace my hard\ndisks as well. However, sometimes I do have huge files on my computer. Does\n\n\n\nit really worth to use a SCSI interface? I can't spend too much on  it)\n\nt he )\n\n\n\nAny help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.\n\nDennis\ndpang@uafhp.uark.edu\n\np.s. Man! I hate the stupid text editor. Is there any way I can type my article\nin a DOS word-processor and load the file into usenet?","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Hello, I am writing a program which forks of a number of child processes\nand each of the children printing things on the screen (quite messy in\none window)... \n\nThe \"xterm  -Sxxd\"  option seems to be the solution to opening up\nslave windows only to display output and I use the following code to\nopen up a pty (taken from Stevens)...and manage to open up an x-term\nsuccessfully.... \n\nThe problem however is how do I write into this x-term ? Please help!\n\n\nstatic char pty_name[12];\nint pty_master( void );\n\nint pty_master( void )\n{\n  int i,fd;\n  char* ptr;\n  struct stat statbuff;\n  static char ptychar[] = \"pqrs\";\n  static char hexdigit[] = \"0123456789abcdef\";\n  \n  for( ptr = ptychar; *ptr!=0; ptr++ ) {\n    strcpy( pty_name, \"\/dev\/ttyXY\" );\n    pty_name[8] = *ptr;\n    pty_name[9] = '0';\n    \n    if( stat( pty_name, &statbuff) < 0 )\n      break;\n\n    for( i=0; i < 16; i++ ) {\n      pty_name[9] = hexdigit[i];\n      if( (fd = open( pty_name, O_RDWR )) >= 0 )\n\treturn( fd );\n    }\n  }\n  return(-1);\n}\n\n  \n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nHans> As somebody replied on whether the space shuttle is connected to\nHans> Usenet: \"No. Of course the main flow of information would be up,\nHans> unless Henry Spencer would be aboard, in which case the main\nHans> flow of information would be down.\"\n\nGene Miya says that Henry will never go aloft in the Shuttle; the\npayload bay isn't big enough for his chocolate chip cookies.\n\nWhen Henry was here at Dryden, he was looking pretty covetously at the\nSR-71s and the F-104s, even though they don't have much cookie space.\nI guess he figured that he could manage for a short flight....","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"HI!\nI need a codabar font for win. TT or other.\nThanks! \n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
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{"text":"\nBeing what?  Oh, _weird_.  OK, I'm warned!\n\n\nKeep watch for what?\n\n\nOh, the several tens (or hundreds) of millions of dollars it would cost\nto \"record things\" there.  And I'd prefer a manned mission, anyway.\n\n\nWe've already got a pretty good platform to \"scan\" the solar\nsystem, as well as SETI and looking at the galaxy without having\nmuch of the solar system to worry about..\nCare to guess where it is?\n\nShag\n\n-- ","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n: This topic was beaten to death a year or so ago.\n\n: The concrete is not the problem. \n\n: Lead-acid batteries often fail from disuse (not being charged for a long\n: time), but there's no way the concrete floor could be the cause of the\n: problem.\n\nDitto. The only remote, and I do say remote, possibility is that if the\nground was REAL cold (< -30F) the battery might freeze an split. But then\nit would probably freeze anyway :-)","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nIts just variation within a thread.  The variation at times has been so great\nthat speciation has occurred.  So Albert Sabin is the common ancestor of\nseveral threads, some of which have themselves speciated.  On a separate topic,\nI subscribed to t.o. just recently.  Albert Sabin existed at that time, so I\nhave no clue as to its origins.  Maybe the abiogenesists have an answer.  I\nmight also point out that evolution is aimless.  Thus why Albert \nSabin evolved into a religious discussion is probably unexplainable.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"On 20 Apr 93 13:34:03 GMT, Gary Piatt observed:\n\n: First, the median does not imply that half of the men are\n: above and half below 7.3: it simply means that 7.3 is the mid-point\n: between the maximum number of partners and the minimum (which is most\n: likely zero).  \n\nActually, the median *is* defined as the 50th percentile.  If the\nmedian number of sexual partners for men is 7.3, it means that \nat least 50% of men have had 7.3 or fewer sexual partners, and\nat least 50% of men have had 7.3 or more sexual partners.\n\n(Question: What is 0.3 of a sexual partner?  :)\n\nTo confuse matters more, take the following data set:\n\n[5.0, 6.0, 6.0, 7.0, 7.0, 7.3, 8.0, 9.0, 9.0, 9.0, 250.0]\n\nThe mean (arithmetic average) of the above set of numbers is 29.4.\nThe sample standard deviation is 73.2.\nThe mode is 9.0.\nThe median is 7.3.\n\n--\nMichael D. Adams          (starowl@a2i.rahul.net)          Enterprise, Alabama","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nNo, I'd rather not.  First of all, I don't have exact figures, and I don't\nwant to disclose how I know this.  However, I will say that Jim Francis\nfrom Microsoft just posted a figure of $26 million (payment from IBM to\nBorland) and that's somewhere in the range that I've heard.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nHeh... Try the rec.autos.sport FAQ. They are always calling ESPN to complain.\nI'm sure you could find the number for ABC there too, as many west-coast \nviewers were compaining about how something as boring as hockey cut into\nthe Long Beach GP. =)\n\n\nWere you (and several of the other people here it seems) asleep the day\n\"contracts\" were explained? ASPN has a piece of paper saying it MUST\nshow that baseball game if it happens. Many businesses payedd money to\nhave their commercials run during a baseball game. This is a business,\nnot your own personal video servant.\n\n\nMaybe you should put that anger into something positive. For example, I saw\nads for the new Dodge both on the ESPN and KBL broadcasts. Why not write to\nDodge saying that \"thanks to the ads run during the STANLEY CUP PLAYOFFS, \nyou will now concider their products in the future. They love to hear stuff\nlike that and in the future will be more willing to buy commercial time\nfor hockey games, giving ESPN (and other networks) more incentive to carry\ngames (just one example)\n\nCome on people, as great as we think it is, Hockey does not leapfrog the\n\"big three\" overight.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Does anyone have any information about the world hockey championships and\nspecifically about the US team?  Game summaries and\/or stats would be\ngreatly appreciated!!  USA Today reported that the US beat the Czech\nRepublic, but that was the limit of the story.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"nobody@alumni.cco.caltech.edu correctly states Jerry Berman's 1985 view on\nprivacy, but he mistakenly assumes that this represents Berman's 1993 view as\nEFF Executive Director.\n\nAs one of the people who convinced Jerry that legal protections for privacy\nare insufficient, and that technical measures, especially public key\ncryptography, are also vitally necessary, I can tell you that Jerry and EFF\nare fully committed to this position.\n\nThe previous poster is apparently unaware of a long series of EFF positions in\nsupport of this view.  I suggest those interested read EFF's position on\nClipper or our other work in digital privacy.  Check ftp.eff.org for more\ndetails.\n\nOne of the great things about human beings is that they are capable of change\nand evolution in their thinking.  The idea that crypto is critical to privacy\nis one which is no longer limited to certain net afficianados, but is \nspreading to parts of the public policy community in Washington.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n   It is indeed different usage of the word Muslim . In Bosnia , it is more or\nless used as an ethnic term not as religious one . There are people in Bosnia\nwho refer to themselves as \"Christian Bosnian Muslims\" if you can make sense\nof that . Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Muslims have the same language. \nBosnian Muslims are mainly beleivers of Islam. I got this from Bosnian Muslim\nfriend of mine who goes to University of Texas in Austin.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nIt fixed a problem for us of getting Divide Errors that were\ncaused by the GW BIOS overwriting some interapplication \nmemory area. Our problem was with Clarion Database programs,\nbut I also heard that it fixed the same problem with Brief","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nThis is just basicly right. The connections that cannot handle touchtone dialing is very few. I would estimate a couple of percents and if you are in a bigger\ntown, there is none that cannot handle tone dialing.\nAnd regarding our swedish dialing system (a rather screwd up system), that does\njust apply to pulsdialing. Not to touchtone.\nBtw; Norway is even more interesting. They got both system! So you need different phones depending on where in the country you live.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Hi all,\n\nI am looking for a new oscilloscope (BK 1541-B, it looks like, Goldstar OS904S\nif I can find one cheap enough) and would like suggestions on a low-priced\nsource for them.\n\n(Currently, BTW, Fry's electronics in Los Angeles has the 1541-B for $598,\n the best price I've seen overall for now - They carry the GS OS902S for \n $490, but I need the 904S because of the 40 MHz B\/W)\n\nThanks all.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I haven't seen any mention of this in a while, so here goes...\n\nWhen the Hubble Telescope was first deployed, one of its high gain antennas\nwas not able to be moved across its full range of motion.  It was suspected\nthat it had been snagged on a cable or something.  Operational procedures\nwere modified to work around the problem, and later problems have overshadowed\nthe HGA problem.\n\nIs there any plan to look at the affected HGA during the HST repair mission,\nto determine the cause of its limited range of motion?  Is the affected HGA\nstill limited, or is it now capable of full range of motion?\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Who has experience with porting a GL-program to an Alpha APX  \nworkstation with Kubota's Denali 3D-Graphic.\nIs there any problems?\nIs the real graphic-performance like a SGI R4000 Indigo XS24Z?\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I'm not sure if this made it out so i'll try again.\n\nI have an Ecklar's (sp?) Corvette car cover for sale.  The cover is canvas\non the outside and felt on the inside.  It is weather proof and in great\ncondition.  I'm asking $95.00 and I'll pay shipping.  (originally $175.00\nin October of 1992).","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nMr. Cramer, when are you going to stop indulging in such blatant lies?\nThis is not only not true, you know damned well that it's not true.  None\nof your research supports this; no mental health expert has taken this\nposition.  This is *your own* opinion which is not backed up by any\nresearch or any knowledge.\n\nAccording to one survey, done in San Francisco, the number of heterosexual\nmen who were molested as children was on the order of 5%.  The number of\nhomosexual men who were molested as children was on the order of 8%.\nSource:  a book on sexual abuse of children by David Finkelhor (sorry,\nthe title escapes me).\n\nConclusions that can be drawn from this:  none.\n\n\nOh, you definitely have a choice.  You realize, of course, that you\nare approaching the two-year anniversary of your crusade.  How are\nyou planning on celebrating two years of lies?\n\nIncidentally, we are still waiting your crusade against African-Americans,\nwomen, and other minorities who also want to \"impose their morality on\nothers\".  After all, they also want the government to \"tell peaceful\npeople how to live.\"  Therefore, you really \"have no choice\", but to\ncontinue to point out that being a woman or an African-American is not\na lifestyle, but a sickness.\n\nIt's bullshit, Mr. Cramer.  It was bullshit when you began this crusade\nand it's still bullshit.  I am continually amazed at the depths to which\nyou'll stoop to carry on this deliberate attack.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Hello World.\nIn posts I've heard about all of the bugs in the DSS24X and the drivers.\nNow I hear that Diamond ships BIOS replacements to some people, that fixes\na lot of problems as well as new drivers. Can anyone tell me how to get mine?","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"In some sense, I think that the folks who think the idea is wonderful, and the\nfolks who want to boycott anyone who has anything to do with this project are\nboth right.\n\nThat is, I think that space advertising is an interesting idea, and if someone\nwants to try it out, more power to them. However, a company may discover that\nthe cost of launch is not the only cost of advertising, and a company who \ngauged that ill will would lose them more revenue than the advertising would\ngain might decide to bow out of the project.\n\nI got incensed when I read that Carl Sagan called this idea an \"abomination.\" \nI don't think that word means what he thinks it does. Children starving in the\nrichest country in the world is an abomination; an ad agency is at worst just\nin poor taste.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nIndeed.  Larry King had the two attorneys (whose clients are now\ndead) of Koresh and another Davidian on his show last night.  Their\ndiscussions with the survivors differ from the FBI account.  The\nattorneys say that they were told that the tanks knocked over lanterns\nin the compound which started the fires.\n\nGovernment spokespeople have lied and contradicted each other \nthroughout this whole affair.  I'll wait for some better evidence before\nI form an opinion.\n-- \npaul hager\t\thagerp@moose.cs.indiana.edu","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\tThat \"Federal land\" and tax money could have been\n\tused to commerate Americans or better yet, to house\n\thomeless Americans.\n\n\njim@specialix.com (Jim Maurer) responds:\n\n\tWhy don't you contribute to a group helping the\n\thomeless if you so concerned?\n\n\nJack Schmidling (arf@genesis.MCS.COM) reveals the true depths\nof his cynicism:\n\n\tI do (did) contribute to the ARF mortgage fund but\n\twhen interest rates plumetted, I just paid it off.\n\n\tThe problem is, I couldn't convince Congress to move\n\tmy home to a nicer location on Federal land.\n\n\nIn other words, Mr. Schmidling could care less for the plight\nof the homeless, but is not above using them to score points\nfor his agenda.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Greetings netters,\n\tI have a Seagate 3144 130MB IDE drive forsale.  I bought it yesterday\nand have been able to come across a 215MB that I am going to buy, but I \nneed to sell this one.  I guarantee that it will work.  There is still a\ntransferable warranty I believe.  It was only used as a boot drive, not a\nserver (source) drive.  I just want my money back out of it...$180.  Thanks\na lot and offers appreciated.  Dave 317-495-5978  kari@sage.cc.purdue.edu\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nNOT an accurate analogy. David Koresh did not take a bunch of\nhostages and then call the BATF with a ransom note. You make\nit sound as if the BATF showed up to save those children in the\nfirst place. I have some interesting news for youBATF\nhas absolutely NO jurisdiction in child abuse cases. \n\nIt seems to me that the BATF showed up, took the Davidians hostage. \nThen the FBI showed up, negotiated to have a few of the hostages \nreleased, but were unable to keep the BATF from killing the rest \nof the poor people trapped inside the compound.\n\n        Steve Martin\n        Steve_Martin@msmgate.mrg.uswest.com","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"During the first three games of the Pens-Devils series, I have been\nimpressed time and time again by the pure talent of the Pens.  Jagr,\nMacEachern and Barrasso have been especially fun to watch.  But, one\nelement of this team which goes unnoticed seems to be Scotty Bowman.\n\nDespite Brooks' lunatic comments, and despite the Devils' line changing\nadantage in last night's game, Bowman has been able to keep his cool and\nkeep the Devils in the dark.  Granted, the hell-dwellers had the Pens\nbottled up for a while last night, but Bowman was eventually able to\nconfigure his line-up to get the job done.  His ability to throw out new\nlooks and strategies at a moments notice is incredible.\n\nBowman seems to have a terrific ability of reading his players on an\nindividual basis.  Last night, for instance, he realized that the speed\nof Jagr, Straka, and MacEachern was throwing the Devils off balance.  As\na result, Straka received many more shifts than average; Jagr played\nalmost the entire game (he was always on the puck), and MacEachern\nscored a goal, while complementing Jagr many times throughout the night.\nHis ability to commit to one player in crucial situations is\ncommendable, especially when a coach of such a talented team might\nsimply rely on the overall talent to dominate, and to bring about\nsuccess.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nThis is where Freeman's love of accuracy becomes really ridiculous.\n\n[his point was that it is possible under certain circumstances for many people\nto carry concealed in Illinois]\nI did read the law before I commented on it.  Judging from replies I received\nabout my \"Semantics on t.p.g\" post many (if not most) people here on t.p.g\nassume that when CCW laws are asked about the person is asking about the\npossibility of an ordinary citizen getting one.  It would also follow that said\nperson would get the CCW to carry on his\/her person away from their home and\/or\nbusiness.\n\n\n\n\nMaybe Freeman did prove his point but his point is not relevant.  The thing\nthat most people seem to care about when they ask questions about carrying\na concealed weapon is whether or not they can carry it concealed on their\nperson when they are out on the street somewhere.  I'm sure that not many\npeople are concerned with whether or not they can carry concealed at home.\nSpeaking as someone who lives in Illinois (the only place where the above\nquoted law is relevant :-)) I know that it is legal to own a handgun here (I\nam not taking into account city ordinances).  I could care less about whether\nor not I can carry concealed at home.         I only care about the fact that\nI can't carry concealed in the place where it really counts- out on the street.\nFreeman loves to be accurate and I can understand that (especially not) but he\nseems to be forgetting that accurate facts don't always replace common sense.\nI am not going to followup to this thread anymore because I believe that it is\nuseless to argue these points anymore.  The only thing that is happening now\nis that Freeman and I are \"running around in circles\" trying to prove each\nother wrong and I do not have the time to be playing games anymore.  Of course\nnow Freeman will attack me about my use of common sense in some of my earlier\nposts but what can I do.  My only advice for Freeman - quit being so picky\nabout accuracy sometimes and use your common sense; it really does work some-\ntimes.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":": I am a new reader of sci.crypt I would like to obtain a copy of a\n: public domain program that can encrypt files, preferably using DES,\n: that runs under MS-DOS.\n\n: I would also like to obtain a program which will password protect\n: floppy disks, if this is possible.\n\n: Thanks.\n\n: David Maddison\n: Melbourne, Australia\n\nWhen you find out a floppy password protect program, could you e-mail me.\nThanks","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Hey, the Lone Biker of the Apocalypse (see Raising Arizona) had flames coming\nout of both his exhaust pipes. I love to toggle the kill switch on my Sportster\nto produce flaming backfires, especially underneath overpasses at night (it's\nloud and lights up the whole underpass!!!","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nBetter still, years ago they demonstrated a cold air system which only used\n\"air\". It was called a Rovax. The unit worked very well, the short coming\nwas the seal technology. Where is it today?","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Has anyone any experience with the (new?) Yamaha Cyclelok ?\n\nIt looks like it uses the same hardened steel as a Kryptonite U lock,\nbut unlike a U lock, it is hinged in 5 places and opens out to a large\nrectangle (longer length than any U lock I have seen, plus it folds down\nto real small), so you could lock the rear tire to a steel post for example.\n\nI was curious as to how well the jointed sections would stand up to attack ?\n\ntony","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nIs there any such thing as in inefficient heater?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nAnd you know what?  There is no such method inherent in real life\neither.  So I would assume you would endorse the notion that we \ncannot state, with any level of objectivity, that Mother Theresa\nhas accomplished more good in this world than Joseph Stalin.\nAfter all, life on earth is a team effort.\n\n\nHave you tried glasses?  I find them quite useful.  \n\nAfter all, there must be some reason you choose to ignore the mounds\nof evidence we present.  It's too bad you feel it necessary to close\nyour mind and eyes to knowledge; you live a poorer life as a result\nof that choice.\n\nHeck, I'd wager that you could predict a WS winner with greater\naccuracy than Jeanne Dixon.  And you know why?  Because I have\nfull confidence that despite your protestations to the contrary,\nyou are quite capable of using the knowledge we can come up\nwith through statistical methods to boost your knowledge level.   \n\n\nHave you tried calling a kettle black?\n\n\nIn other words, in your world, you cannot objectively state that\nJack Morris was more important to the Blue Jays than Al Leiter last\nyear.\n\nIn your world, that may indeed be true.  Fortunately, in the world\nthe rest of us occupy, it's not.\n\nI hope you never serve on a jury, Roger.  I think the rest of the\njury would have to kill you.  \"There's no way I can objectively\njudge the defendant to be innocent or guilty.  You see, there are\n2 billion other people on this planet.  We have no way of knowing\nwhether the defendant would have committed the crime if it wasn't\nfor all the other people on the planet.  We have no way of knowing\nhow the defendant would have acted had he been on a different planet,\nbecause living on this planet is a team effort.  And no individual\ncommitts a crime totally isolated from his society; he is a part of\nthat society.  That being case, anything I have to say on his\nculpability would be absolute subjectivity, so I refuse to vote.\"","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Regarding drag free satellites, Joe Cain gives a good description of the concept.  It is however more than a concept.  The Navy's Triad satellite succesfully used drag free control.  Drag free control is an integral part of the Stanford Gravity Probe-B spacecraft, due to fly in 1999.  It is also part of the European STEP satellite.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nDid they ever put in any gas stations on US 12?  I rode through there in\n1987, skipped a fillup at Bryce Canyon and rode 100+ miles before seeing\na gas station at Torrey.  Awesome road, I recall riding up a narrow ridge\nabove 9,000? 10,000? feet.\n\n-Bruce","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\nSure about that? Maybe Proxima might cause problems, but at Oort\nCloud distances AC a and AC b together look like a point source.\n\nBesides, even the solar system's Oort cloud is unstable over\ngeologic time, right, and needs to be replentished from somewhere\nelse, like the short period comets of the Kupier Belt?\n\n(Or maybe I'm misremembering something I read or heard somewhere...)\n\n\nUntil we're able to perform a broad-band survey of nearby stars\nto detect planets, we won't know enough to say whether or not\na single star has planets. And we're likely to find out about the\nclose ones first.\n\nHeck, if neutron stars can have planets, anything can have planets.\n(Or was that discovery disconfirmed?)\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I need help identifying this board that I found stuffed away in a corner.\n\nAs the title says, all that is printed on it is NATIONAL INSTRUMENTS NB-DMA-8.\nIt fits fine in my Mac IIci and snooper gives the very same name for the\nboard.  It looks like it has an HP-IB connector on the back of it and\nanother connector on the top (2 rows by 25 pins).  It also looks like\nit has an Intel processor on it (#A82380-16 Intel '86)\n\nOn an EEPROM there is a sticker with the P\/N 700584-01.\n\nAnybody ever seen or heard of one?  Or better yet, do you know what it does?\nWe are all clueless here.  Our last option is to hook it up to our HP\nworkstations and see if any smoke comes out.\n\nThanks a lot!\n\nKevin\n-- \n-------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Archive-name: graphics\/resources-list\/part2\nLast-modified: 1993\/04\/27\n\n\nComputer Graphics Resource Listing : WEEKLY POSTING [ PART 2\/3 ]\n===================================================\nLast Change : 27 April 1993\n\n\n14. Plotting packages\n=====================\n\nGnuplot 3.2\n-----------\n  It is one of the best 2- and 3-D plotting packages, with\n  online help.It's a command-line driven interactive function plotting utility\n  for UNIX, MSDOS, Amiga, Archimedes, and VMS platforms (at least!).\n  Freely distributed, it supports many terminals, plotters, and printers\n  and is easily extensible to include new devices.\n  It was posted to comp.sources.misc in version 3.0, plus 2 patches.\n  You can practically find it everywhere (use Archie to find a site near you!).\n  The comp.graphics.gnuplot newsgroup is devoted to discussion of Gnuplot.\n\nXvgr and Xmgr (ACE\/gr)\n-----------------------\n  Xmgr is an XY-plotting tool for UNIX workstations using\n  X or OpenWindows. There is an XView version called xvgr for\n  Suns. Collectively, these 2 tools are known as ACE\/gr.\n  Compiling xmgr requires the Motif toolkit version 1.1\n  and X11R4 - xmgr will not compile under X11R3\/Motif 1.0x.\n\n  Check at ftp.ccalmr.ogi.edu [129.95.72.34} in\n  \/CCALMR\/pub\/acegr\/xmgr-2.09.tar.Z (Motif version)\n  \/CCALMR\/pub\/acegr\/xvgr-2.09.tar.Z (XView version)\n\n  Comments, suggestions, bug reports to Paul J Turner\n  <pturner@amb4.ese.ogi.edu> (if mail fails, try pturner@ese.ogi.edu).\n  Due to time constraints, replies will be few and far between.\n\nRobot\n-----\n  Release 0.45 : 2-D and limited 3-D. Based on XView 3, written\n  in C \/ Fortran (so you need a Fortran compiler or the f2c translator).\n  Mainly tested on Sun4, less on DECstations. Check at\n  ftp.astro.psu.edu (128.118.147.28),  pub\/astrod.\n\nVG plotting library\n-------------------\n  This is a library of Fortran callable routines at sunspot.ceee.nist.gov\n  [129.6.64.151]\n\nXgobi\n-----\n  It's being developed at Bellcore, and its speciality are\n  multidimensional data sets analysis and exploration. You can call it\n  from the S language also, and it works as an X11 client using the Athena\n  widget set (or with an ASCII terminal). It's distributed free of charge\n  from STATLIB at CMU.\n  To get it via e-mail, send email to statlib@temper.stat.cmu.edu and\n  in the body area of the message, put the line\n\n  send xgobi from general\n\n  If you want to pick it via ftp, connect to lib.stat.cmu.edu. Log in as\n  \"statlib\" and use your e-mail address as your password. Then type\n\n  cd general\n  mget xgobi.*\n\n  Warning: It's about 2 MB sources + large Postscript manual. Read the\n  relevant README to decide whether you need it or not.\n\nPGPLOT\n------\n  Runs on VAX\/VMS and supposedly on UNIX. It's a set of fortran routines freely\n  available (though copyrighted and requiring a nominal fee of $50 or so)\n  that includes contour plots and support for various devices, including ps.\n  Contact tjp@deimos.caltech.edu\n\nGGRAPH\n------\n  Host shorty.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.8] : \/pub\/ggraph.tar.Z\n  Unknown more details.\n\nepiGRAPH\n--------\n  For PCs. Call dvj@lab2.phys.lgu.spb.su (Vladimir J. Dmitriev) for details.\n  You can get the program demo or (and) play version, if sent 10 $ to\n\n        1251 Budapest posta fiok 60\n        Hungary\n        ph\/fax 1753696  Budapest\n        ph     2017760\n\nMultiplot XLN\n-------------\n  For Amigas, shareware ($30 USD, #20 UK or $40 Aust.). Advanced 2D package\n  that has a big list of features. Contact:\n\n  Dr. Alan Baxter <agb16@mbuc.bio.cam.ac.uk>,\n  Cambridge University\n  Department of Pathology,\n  Tennis Court Road,\n  Cambridge CB2 1QP, UK\n\n\nAthena Plotter Widget set\n-------------------------\n  \n  This version V6.0 is based on Gregory Bond's version V5-beta. Added\n  some stuff for scientific graphs, i.e. log axes, free scalable axes,\n  XY-lineplots and some more, and re-added plotter callbacks from V4, e.g.\n  to request the current pointer position, or to cut off a rectangle from the\n  plotting area for zooming-in. Version V6.0 has a log of bugs fixed and a\n  log of improvements against V6-beta. Additionally I did some other\n  changes\/extensions, besides \n  \n  -     Origin and frame lines for axes.\n  -     Subgrid lines on subtic positions.\n  -     Line plots in different line types (lines, points, lines+points,\n   impulses, lines+impulses, steps, bars), line styles (solid, dotted,\n   dashed, dot-dashed) and marker types for data points.\n  -     Legend at the right or left hand side of the plot.\n  -     Optional drawing to a pixmap instead of a window.\n  -     Layout callback for aligning axis positions when using\n   multiple plotters in one application.\n  \n  Available at export.lcs.mit.edu, directory contrib\/plotter\n\nSciPlot\n-------\n  SciPlot is a scientific 2D plotting and manipulation program. \n  For the NeXT (requires NeXTStep 3.0), and it's shareware.\n\n  Features:\n  ASCII import and export;  EPS export; copy, cut, paste with data buffer;\n  free number of data points, data buffer, and document window;\n  selective open and save ; plotting in many styles; automatic legend;\n  subviews; linear and logarithmic axes; two different axes; text and graphic;\n  color support; zoom; normalizing and moving; axis conversions;\n  free hand data manipulations (cut, edit, move, etc.); data editor; sorting\n  of data; absolute,relative, and free defined error bars;\n  calculating with buffers (+, -, *, \/ ); background subtractions\n  (linear,shirley,tougaard, bezier); integration and relative integration;\n  fitting of one or more free defined functions; linear regression;\n  calculations (+, -, *, \/, sin, cos, log, etc.); function generator;\n  spline interpolation; least square smooth and FFT smooth; differentiation;\n  FFT; ESCA calculations and database; .. and something more \n\n  You can find it on:\n  ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.7] : \/pub\/NeXT\/science\/SciPlot3.1.tar.Z\n\n  Author:\n  Michael Wesemann\n  Scillerstr. 73,1000 Berlin 12, Germany   \n  mike@fiasko.rz-berlin.mpg.de\n\nPLPLOT\n------\n  PLPLOT is a scientific plotting package for many systems, small (micro)\n  and large (super) alike.  Despite its small size and quickness,\n  it has enough power to satisfy most users, including:\n  standard x-y plots, semilog plots, log-log plots, contour plots, 3D plots,\n  mesh plots, bar charts and pie charts.  Multiple graphs (of the same or\n  different sizes) may be placed on a single page with multiple lines in each\n  graph.  Different line styles, widths and colors are supported.  A virtually\n  infinite number of distinct area fill patterns may be used.  There are\n  almost 1000 characters in the extended character set.  This includes four\n  different fonts, the Greek alphabet and a host of mathematical, musical, and\n  other symbols.  The fonts can be scaled to any size for various effects.\n  Many different output device drivers are available (system dependent),\n  including a portable metafile format and renderer.\n  \n  Freely available (but copyrighted) via anonymous FTP on\n  hagar.ph.utexas.edu, directory pub\/plplot\n  \n  At present (v. 4.13), PLPLOT is known to work on the following systems:\n  \n  Unix:   SunOS, A\/IX, HP-UX, Unicos, DG\/UX, Ultrix\n  Other platforms: VMS, Amiga\/Exec, MS-DOS, OS\/2, NeXT\n  \n  Authors: Many. The main supporters are:\n  \n  Maurice LeBrun <mjl@fusion.ph.utexas.edu>: PLPLOT kernel and the metafile,\n     xterm, xwindow, tektronix, and Amiga drivers.\n  Geoff Furnish <furnish@fusion.ph.utexas.edu>: MS-DOS and OS\/2 drivers\n  Tony Richardson <amr@egr.duke.edu>: PLPLOT on the NeXT\n\nSuperMongo\n----------\n  2-D plotting package at CMU, filename ~re00\/tmp\/SM.2.1.0.tar.Z\n  (probably under the ftp.cmu.edu or andrew.cmu.edu machines?)\n\nGLE\n---\n  GLE is a high quality graphics package for scientists.  It runs on a\n  variety of platforms (PCs, VAXes, and Unix) with drivers for XWindows,\n  REGIS, TEK4010, PC graphics cards, VT100s, HP plotters, Postscript\n  printers, Epson-compatible printers and Laserjet\/Paintjet printers.  It\n  provides LaTEX quality fonts, as well as full support for Postscript\n  fonts.  The graphing module provides full control over all features of\n  graphs.  The graphics primitives include user-defined subroutines for\n  complex pictures and diagrams.\n\n  Accompanying utilities include Surface (for hidden line surface\n  plotting), Contour (for contour plots), Manip (for manipulation of\n  columnar data files), and Fitls (for fitting arbitrary equations to\n  data).\n\n+ Available via anon. FTP at these places:\n+\n+ PC gle: SIMTEL, wuarchive.wustl.edu, and other mirrors, msdos\/graphics\/gle*.*\n+ UNIX gle: zephyr.grace.cri.nz (131.203.1.5), pub\/gle\/unix\n+ VMS gle: zephyr.grace.cri.nz (131.203.1.5), pub\/gle\/vms\n\n  Mailing list: GLEList. Send a message to\n\n  listserver@tbone.biol.scarolina.edu, with a message boyd containing\n\n  sub glelist \"Your Name\"\n  \n  maintainer: Dean Pentcheff <dean2@tbone.biol.scarolina.edu>\n\n==========================================================================\n\n15. Image analysis software - Image processing and display\n==========================================================\n\nPC and Mac-based tools (multi-platform software)\n======================\n\nIMDISP\n------\n  IMDISP Written at JPL and other NASA sites. Can do simple display,\n  enhancing, smoothing and so on. Works with the FITS and VICAR\/PDS\n  data formats of NASA. Can read TIFF images, if you know their dimensions\n  [PC and Macs]\n\nLabVIEW 2\n---------\n  LabVIEW is used as a framework for image processing tools. It provides a\n  graphical programming environment using block diagram sketch is the\n  \"program\" with graphical elements representing the programming elements.\n  Hundreds of functions are already available and are connected using a\n  wiring tool to create the block diagram (program).  Functions that the\n  block diagrams represent include digital signal processing and\n  filtering, numerical analysis, statistics, etc.  The tool allows any\n  Virtual Instrument (VI, a software file that looks and acts like a real\n  laboratory instrument) to be used as a part of any other virtual\n  instrument.\n\n  National Instruments markets plug-in digital signal processing (DSP)\n  boards for Macintoshs and PC compatables that allow real-time\n  acquisition and analysis at a personal computer.  New software tools for\n  DSP are allowing engineers to harness the power of this technology. The\n  tools range from low-level debugging software to high-level block\n  diagram development software.  There are three levels of DSP programming\n  associated with the NB-DSP2300 board and LabVIEW:\n  Use of the NB-DSP2300 Analysis Library: FFTs, power spectra, filters\n  routines callable from THINK C and Macintosh Programers Workshop (MPW) C\n  that execute on the NB-DSP2300 board. There is an analysis Virtual\n  Interface Library of ready-to-use VIs optimized for the NB-DSP2300.\n\n  Use of the National Instruments Developers Toolkit that includes an\n  optimizing C compiler, an assembler and a linker for low-level\n  programming of the DSP hardware.  This approach offers the highest level\n  of performance but is the must difficult in terms of ease of use.\n\n  Use of the National Instruments Interface Kit software package which has\n  utility functions for memory management data communications and\n  downloading code to the NB-DSP2300 board. (This is the easiest route for\n  the development of custom code.)\n\nUltimage Concept VI\n-------------------\n  Concept VI  by Graftek-France is a family of image processing Virtual\n  Instruments (VIs) that give LabVIEW 2 (described above) users high-end\n  tools for designing, integrating and monitoring imaging control systems.\n  A VI is a software file that looks and acts like a real laboratory\n  instrument. Typical applications for Concept VI include thermography,\n  surveillance, machine vision, production testing, biomedical imaging,\n  electronic microscopy and remote sensing.\n\n  Ultimage Concept VI addresses applications which require further\n  qualitative and quantitative analysis.  It includes a complete set of\n  functions for image enhancement, histogram equalization, spatial and\n  frequency filtering, isolation of features, thresholding, mathematical\n  morphology analysis, density measurement, object counting, sizing and\n  characterization.\n\n  The program loads images with a minimum resolution of 64 by 64, a pixel\n  depth of 8, 16, or 32 bits, and one image plane.  Standard input and\n  output formats include PICT, TIFF, SATIE, and AIPD.  Other formats can\n  be imported.\n\n  Image enhancement features include lookup table transformations, spatial\n  linear and non-linear filters, frequency filtering, arithmetic and logic\n  operations, and geometric transformations, among others.  Morphological\n  transformations include erosion, dilation, opening, closing, hole\n  removal, object separation, and extraction of skeletons, among others.\n  Quantitative analysis provides for objects' detection, measurement, and\n  morphological distribution.  Measures include area, perimeter, center of\n  gravity, moment of inertia, orientation, length of relevant chords, and\n  shape factors and equivalence.  Measures are saved in ASCII format.  The\n  program also provides for macro scripting and integration of custom\n  modules.\n\n  A 3-D view command plots a perspective data graph where image intensity\n  is depicted as mountains or valleys in the plot.  The histogram tool can\n  be plotted with either a linear or logarithmic scale. The twenty-eight\n  arithmetic and logical operations provide for: masking and averaging\n  sections of images, noise removal, making comparisons, etc.  There are\n  13 spatial filters that alter pixel intensities based on local\n  intensity.  These include high-pass filters for contrast and outlines.\n  The frequency data resulting from FFT analysis can be displayed as\n  either the (real , imaginary ) components or the (phase, magnitude)\n  data.  The morphological transformations are useful for data sharpening\n  and defining objects or for removing artifacts.\n\n  The transformations include: thresholding, eroding, dilating and even\n  hole filling.\n\n  The program's quantitative analysis measurements include: area,\n  perimeter, center of mass, object counts, and angle between points.\n\n  GTFS, Inc. 2455 Bennett Valley Road #100C Santa Rosa, CA 95494\n  707-579-1733\n\nIPLab Spectrum\n--------------\n  IPLAB Spectrum supports image processing and analysis but lacks the\n  morphology and quantitative analysis features provided by\n  Graftek-FranceUs Ultimage Concept VI.  Using scripting tools, the user\n  tells the system the operations to be performed. The problem is that far\n  too many basic operations require manual intervention. The tool\n  supports: FFTs, 16 arithmetic operations for pixel alteration, and a\n  movie command for cycling through windows.\n\n\nMacintosh-based tools\n=====================\n\nNCSA Image, NCSA PalEdit and more\n---------------------------------\n  NCSA provides a whole suite of public-domain visualization tools for the\n  Macintosh, primarily aimed at researchers wanting to visualize results\n  from numerical modelling calculations.  These applications,\n  documentation, and source code are available for anonymous ftp from\n  ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu. Commercial versions of the NCSA programs have been\n  developed by Spyglass.\n\n  Spyglass, Inc. 701 Devonshire Drive Champaign, IL  61820 (217) 355-6000\n  fax: 217 355 8925\n\nNIH IMAGE\n---------\n  Available at alw.nih.gov (128.231.128.7) or (preferably)\n  zippy.nimh.nih.gov [128.231.98.32], directory:\/pub\/image.\n  It has painting and image manipulation tools, a macro language,\n  tools for measuring areas, distances and angles, and for counting\n  things. Using a frame grabber card, it can record sequences of\n  images to be played back as a movie. It can invoke user-defined\n  convolution matrix filters, such as Gaussian. It can import raw\n  data in tab-delimited ASCII, or as 1 or 2-byte quantities. It also\n  does histograms and even 3-D plots. It is limited to 8-bits\/pixel,\n  though the 8 bits map into a color lookup table. It runs on any Mac\n  that has a 256-color screen and a FPU (or get the NonFPU version\n  from zippy.nimh.nih.gov)\n\nPhotoMac\n--------\n  Data Translation, Inc. 100 Locke Dr. Marlboro, MA 01752 508-481-3700\n\nPhotoPress\n----------\n  Blue Solutions 3039 Marigold Place Thousand Oaks, CA 91360 805-492-9973\n\nPixelTools and TCL-Image\n------------------------\n  \"Complete family of PixelTools (hardware accelerator and applications\n  software) for scientific image processing and analysis.  Video-rate\n  capture, display, processing, and analysis of high-resolution\n  monochromatic and color images.  Includes C source code.\"\n\nTCL-Image:\n  \"Software package for scientific, quantitative image processing and\n  analysis. It provides a complete language for the capture, enhancement,\n  and extraction of quantitative information from gray-scale images.\n  TCL_Image has over 200 functions for image processing, and contains the\n  other elements needed in a full programming language for algorithm\n  development -- variables and control structures.  It is easily\n  extensible through \"script\" (or indirect command) files. These script\n  files are simply text files that contain TCL-Image commands.  They are\n  executed as normal commands and include the ability to pass parameters.\n  The direct capture of video images is supported via popular frame\n  grabber boards.  TCL-Image comes with the I-View utility that provides\n  conversion between common image file types, such as PICT2 and TIFF.\"\n\n  Perceptics 725 Pellissippi Parkway Knoxville, TN 37933 615-966-9200\n\nSatellite Image Workshop\n------------------------\n  It comes with a number of satellite pictures (raw data) and does all\n  sorts of image enhancing on it. You'll need at least a Mac II with co-\n  processor; a 256 color display and a large harddisk. The program doesn't\n  run under system 7.x.ATE1 V1\n\n  In the documentation the contact address is given as:  Liz Smith, Jet\n  Propulsion Laboratory, MS 300-323, 4800 Oak Grove Dr,.Pasadena, CA 91109\n  (818) 354-6980\n\nVisualization Workbench\n-----------------------\n  \"An electronic imaging software system that performs interactive image\n  analysis and scientific 2D and 3D plotting.\"\n\n  Paragon Imagine 171 Lincoln St. Lowell, MA 01852 508-441-2112\n\nAdobe Photoshop\n---------------\n\n  The tool supports Rtrue colorS with 24-bit images or 256 levels of grey\n  scale.  Once an image has been imported it can be Rre-touchedS with\n  various editing tools typical of those used in Macintosh-based RpaintS\n  applications.  These include an eraser, pencil, brush and air brush.\n  Advanced RpasteS tools that control the interaction between a pasted\n  selection and the receiving site have also been incorporated.  For\n  example, all red pixels in a selection can easily be preventing from\n  being pasted. Photoshop has transparencies ranging from 0 to 100%,\n  allowing you to create ghost overlays.  RPhoto-editingS tools include\n  control of the brightness and contrast, color balancing, hue\/saturation\n  modification and spectrum equalization.  Images can be subjected to\n  various signal processing algorithms to smooth or sharpen the image,\n  blur edges, or locate edges.  Image scaling is also supported.\n\n  For storage savings, the images can be compressed using standard\n  algorithms, including externally supplied compression such as JPEG,\n  availlable from Storm Technologies. The latest version of Adobe\n  Photoshop supports the import of numerous image formats including: EPSF,\n  EPSF, TIFF, PICT resource, Amiga IFF\/ILBM, CompuServe GIF, MacPaint,\n  PIXAR, PixelPaint, Scitex CT, TGA and ThunderScan..\n\n  Adobe Systems, Inc. 1585 Charlestown Road PO Box 7900 Mountain View, CA\n  94039-7900 415-961-4400\n\nColorStudio and ImageStudio\n---------------------------\n  ColorStudio is an image-editing and paint package from Letraset that has\n  more features than Adobe Photoshop but is decidedly more complex and\n  therefore more difficult to use.  Several steps are often required to\n  accomplish that which can be done in a single step using Photoshop.  The\n  application requires a great deal of available disk space as one can\n  easily end up with images in the 30 MB range.  The program provides a\n  variety of powerful selection tools including the \"auto selection tool\"\n  which lets the user choose image areas on the basis of color, close\n  hues, color range and mask.\n\nImageStudio: Don't know...\n\n  Letraset USA 40 Eisenhower Drive Paramus, NJ 07653 201-845-6100\n\nDapple Systems\n--------------\n  \"High resolution image analysis software provides processing tools to\n  work with multiple images, enhance and edit, and measure a variety of\n  global or feature parameters, and interpret the data.\"\n\n  Dapple Systems, 355 W. Olive Ave, #100 Sunnyvale, CA 94086 408-733-3283\n\nDigital Darkroom\n----------------\n  The latest release of Digital Darkroom has five new selection and\n  editing tools for enhancing images. One such feature allows the user to\n  select part of an image simply by \"painting\" it. A new polyline\n  selection tool creates a selection tool for single pixel wide\n  selections.  A brush lets the operator \"paint\" with a selected portion\n  of the image. Note that this is not a true color image enhancement tool.\n  This tool should be used when the user intends to operate in grey-scale\n  images only.  It should be noted that Digital Darkroom is not as\n  powerful as either Adobe Photoshop or ColorStudio.\n\n  Silicon Beach Software 9770 Carroll Ctr. Rd., Suite J San Diego, CA\n  92126 619-695-6956\n\nDimple\n------\n  It  is compatible with system 6.05 and system 7.0 , requires Mac LC or\n  II series with 256 colours, with a recommended min of 6Mb of ram. It has\n  the capability of reading Erdas files. Functions include; image\n  enhancement, 3D and contour plots, image statistics, supervised and\n  unsupervised classification, PCA and other image transformations. There\n  is also a means (Image Operation Language or IOL) by which you can write\n  your own transformations. There is no image rectification, however\n  Dimple is compatable with MAPII. The latest version is 1.4 and it is in\n  the beta stage of testing. Dimple was initially developed as a teaching\n  tool and it is very good for this purpose.\"\n\n  \"Dimple  runs on a colour Macintosh.  It is a product still in its\n  development phase.. i.e. it doesn't have all the inbuilt features of\n  other packages, but is coming along nicely.  It has its own inbuilt\n  language for writing \"programs\" for processing an image, defining\n  convolution filters etc. Dimple is a full mac application with pull down\n  menus etc... It is unprotected software.\"\n\n  Process Software Solutions, PO Box 2110, Wollongong, New South Wales,\n  Australia. 2500. Phone 61 42 261757  Fax 61 42 264190.\n\nEnhance\n-------\n  Enhance has a RrulerS tool that supports measurements and additionally\n  provides angle data. The tool has over 80 mathematical filter\n  variations: \"Laplacian, medium noise filter\", etc.  Files can be saved\n  as either TIFF, PICT, EPSF or text (however EPSF files can't be imported).\n\n  MicroFrontier 7650 Hickman Road Des Moines, IA  50322 515-270-8109\n\nImage Analyst\n-------------\n  An image processing product for users who need to extract quantitative\n  data from video images.  Image Analyst lets users configure\n  sophisticated image processing and measurement routines without the\n  necessity of knowing a programming language.  It is designed for such\n  tasks at computing number and size of cells in images projected by video\n  cameras attached to microscopes, or enhancing and measuring distances in\n  radiographs.\n\n  Image Analyst provides users with an array of field-proven video\n  analysis techniques that enable them to easily assemble a sequence of\n  instructions to enhance feature appearance; count objects; determine\n  density, shape, size, position, or movement; perform object feature\n  extraction; and conduct textural analysis automatically.  Image Analyst\n  works with either a framegrabber board and any standard video camera, or\n  a disk-stored image.\n\n  Within minutes, without the need for programming, the Image Analyst user\n  can set up a process to identify and analyze any element of a image.\n  Measurements and statistics can be automatically or semi-automatically\n  generated from TIFF or PICT files or from captured video tape images.\n  Image Analyst recognizes items in images based on their size, shape and\n  position.  The tool provides direct support for the Data Translation and\n  Scion frame grabbers. A menu command allows for image capture from a VCR\n  video camera or other NTSC or PAL devices.\n\n  There are 2 types of files, the image itself and the related Sequence\n  file that holds the processing, measurements and analysis that the user\n  defines.  Automated sequences are set up in Regions Of Interest (ROI)\n  represented by movable, sizable boxes atop the image.  Inside a ROI, the\n  program can find the distance between two edges, the area of a shape,\n  the thickness of a wall, etc.  Image Analyst finds the center, edge and\n  other positions automatically. The application also provides tools so\n  that the user can work interactively to find the edge of object. It also\n  supports histograms and a color look-up table (CLUT) tool.\n\n  Automatix, Inc. 775 Middlesex Turnpike Billerica, MA 01821 508-667-7900\n\nIPLab\n-----\n  Signal Analytics Corp. 374 Maple Ave. E Vienna, VA  22180 703-281-3277\n  FAX 703-281-2509\n\n  \"Menu-driven image processing software that supports 24-bit color or\n  pseudocolor\/grayscale image display and manipulation.\"\n\nMAP II\n------\n  Among the Mac GIS systems, MAP II distributed by John Wiley has\n  integrated image analysis.\n\nIMAGE\n-----\n  from Stanford : Try anonymous ftp from sumex-aim.stanford.edu\n  It has pd source for image v2, and ready to run code for a mac under\n  image v3.\n\n\n\nWindows\/DOS PC-based tools\n==========================\n\nCCD\n---\n  Richard Berry's CCD imaging book for Willamon-Bell contains (optional?)\n  disks with image manipulating software.  Source code is included.\n\nERDAS\n-----\n  \"ERDAS will do all of the things you want:  rectification,\n  classification, transformations (canned & user-defined), overlays,\n  filters, contrast enhancement, etc. ... I was using it on my thesis &\n  then changed the topic a bit & that work became secondary.\"\n\n  ERDAS, Inc. 2801 Buford Highway Suite 300 Atlanta, GA 30329 404-248-9000\n  FAX   404-248-9400\n\nRSVGA\n-----\n  \"I have been getting up to speed on a program called RSVGA available from\n  Eidetic Digital Image Ltd. in British Columbia.  Its for IBM PC's or\n  clones, cheap (about $400) and does all the stuff Erdas does but is not\n  as fast or as powerful, though I have had only limited experience with\n  Erdas.  I have used RSVGA with 6 of 7 Landsat bands and it is a good\n  starter program except for the obtuse manual\"\n\nIMAGINE-32\n----------\n  It's a 32 bit package [I suppose for PCs] called \"Imagine32\"\n  or \"Image32\" The program does a modest amount of image processing --add,\n  subtract, multiply, divide, display, and plot an x or y cut across the image.\n  It can also display a number of images simultaneously.\n  The company is CompuScope, in Santa Barbara, CA. \n\nPC Vista\n--------\n  It was announced in the 1989 August edition of PASP.  It is known to\n  be available from Mike Richmond, whose email addresses have been\n\n\trichmond@bllac.berkeley.edu\n\trichmond@bkyast.berkeley.edu\n\n  and his s-mail address is:\n\n  Michael Richmond,Astronomy Department, Campbell Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720\n\n  The latest version of PC-Vista, version 1.7, includes not only the source\n  code and help files, but also a complete set of executable programs and\n  a number of sample FITS images. If you do wish to use the source code,\n  you will need Microsoft C, version 5.0 or later; other compilers may work,\n  but will require substantial modifications.\n\n  To receive the documentation and nine double-density (360K) floppies\n  (or three quad-density 3-1\/2 inch floppies (1.44M) with everything on them,\n  just send a request for PC-Vista, together with your name and a US-Mail\n  address, to \n\n\tOffice of Technology Licensing\n\t2150 Shattuck Ave., Suite 510\n\tBerkeley, Ca. 94704\n\n  Include a check (Traveller's Checks are fine) or purchase order for $150.00\n  in U.S. dollars, if your address is inside the continental U.S., or $165.00\n  otherwise, made out to Regents of the University of California\n  to cover duplication and mailing costs.\n\n\nSOFTWARE TOOLS\n--------------\n  It's a set of software \"tools\" put out by Canyon State\n  Systems and Software. They are not free, but rather cheap at about $30 I\n  heard. It will handle most all of the formats used by frame grabber\n  software. \n\nMIRAGE\n------\n  It's image processing software written by Jim Gunn at the\n  Astrophysics Dept at Princeton. It will run on a PC among other platforms.\n  It is a Forth based system - i.e. a Forth language with many image\n  processing displaying functions built in. \n\nDATA TRANSLATION SOURCE BOOK\n----------------------------\n  The Data Translation company in Massachusetts publishes a free book\n  containing vendors of data analysis hardware and software which is\n  compatible with Data Translation and other frame grabbers.\n  Surely you can find much more PC-related stuff in it.\n\nMAXEN386\n--------\n  A couple of Canadians have written a program named MAXEN386 which does\n  maximum entropy image deconvolution. Their company is named Digital\n  Signal Processing Software, or something like that, and the software is\n  mentioned in an article in Astronomy Magazine, either Jan or Feb 92\n  (an article on CCD's vs film). \n\nJANDEL SCIENTIFIC (JAVA)\n------------------------\n  Another software package (JAVA) is put out by Jandel Scientific. \n  Jandel Scientific, 65 Koch Road, Corte Madera, CA 94925, (415) 924-8640,\n  (800) 874-1888.\n\nMicrobrian\n----------\n  Runs on an MS dos platform and uses a 32 bit graphics card\n  (Vista), or an about to be released version will support a number of\n  super VGA cards.  Its a full blown remote sensed data processing\n  system.. It is menu driven (character based screen), but is does not use\n  a windowed user interface. Its is hardware protected with a dongle.\n  Mbrian = micro Barrier reef Image Anaysis System. It was developed by\n  CSIRO (Commonwealth Scientific & Industrial Organization) and is\n  marketed\/ supported by:\n\n  MPA Australia (51 Lusher Road, Croydon, Victoria\n  tel + 61 3 724 4488     fax  +61 3 724 4455)\n\n  There are educational and commercial prices, but be prepared to set\n  aside $A10k for the first educational licence.  Subsequent ones come\n  cheaper (they need to!) It has installed sites worldwide.  It is widely\n  used at ANU.\n\nMicroImage\n----------\n  The remote sensing lab here at Dartmouth currently uses Terra-Mar's\n  MicroImage, on 486 PCs with some fancy display hardware.\n\n  Terra-Mar Resource Information Services, Inc.\n\n  1937 Landings Drive Mountain View, CA  94043 415-964-6900   FAX\n  415-964-5430\n\nUnix-based tools\n================\n\nIRAF (Image Reduction and Analysis Facility)\n--------------------------------------------\n  Developed in the National Optical Astronomy Observatory, Kitt Peak AZ\n  It is free, you can ftp it from tucana.noao.edu [140.252.1.1]\n  and complement it with STSDAS from stsci.edu [130.167.1.2].\n  Email to iraf@noao.edu for more details.\n  Apparently this is one of the _de facto_ standards in the astronomical\n  image community. They issue a newsletter also.\n  They seem to support very well their users. Works with VMS also last\n  I heard, and practically has its own shell on top of the VMS\/Unix shells.\n\n  It's suggested that you get a copy of saoimage for display under X windows.\n  Very flexible\/extendable  -- tons (literally 3 linear feet) of\n  documentation for the general user, skilled user, and programmer.\n\nALV\n---\n  A Sun-specific image toolkit.  Version 2.0.6 posted to\n  comp.sources.sun on 11dec89.  Also available via email to\n  alv-users-request@cs.bris.ac.uk.\n\nAIPS\n----\n  Astronomical Image Processing System.  Contact: aipsmail@nrao.edu\n  (also see the UseNet Newsgroups alt.sci.astro.aips and sci.astro.fits)\n  Built by NRAO (National Radio Astronomy Observatory, HQ in Charlottesville,\n  VA, sites in NM, AZ, WV).  Software distributed by 9-track, Exabyte, DAT,\n  or (non-anonymous) internet ftp.  Documentation (PostScript mostly)\n  available via anonymous ftp to baboon.cv.nrao.edu (192.33.115.103),\n  directory pub\/aips and pub\/aips\/TEXT\/PUBL.  Installation requires building\n  the system and thus a Fortran and C compiler.\n     This package can read and write FITS data (see sci.astro.fits), and is\n  primarily for reduction, analysis, and image enhancement of Radio Astronomy\n  data from radio telescopes, particularly the Very Large Array (VLA), a\n  synthesis instrument.  It consists of almost 300 programs that do everything\n  from copying data to sophisticated deconvolution, e.g. via maximum entropy.\n  There is an X11-based Image tool (XAS) and a tek-compatible xterm-based\n  graphics tool built into AIPS.  The XAS tool is modelled after the hardware\n  functionality of the International Imaging Systems model 70 display unit and\n  can do image arithmetic, etc.\n    The code is mostly Fortran 77 with some system C language modules, and is\n  available for Suns, IBM RS\/6000, Dec\/Ultrix, Convex, Cray (Unicos), and\n  Alliant with support planned for HP-9000\/7xx, Solaris 2.1, and maybe SGI.\n     There is currently a project - \"AIPS++\" - underway to rewrite the\n  algorithmic functionality of AIPS in a modern setting, using C++ and an\n  object oriented approach.  Whereas AIPS is proprietary code (licensed for\n  free to non-profit institutions) owner by NRAO and the NSF, AIPS++ will be\n  in the public domain at some level, as it is an international effort with\n  contributions from the US, Canada, England, the Netherlands, India, and\n  Australia to name a few. \n\nLABOimage\n---------\n  (version 4.0 is out for X11) It's written in C, and currently\n  runs on Sun 3\/xxx, Sun 4\/xxx (OS3.5, 4.0 and 4.0.3) under SunView.\n  The expert system for image segmentation is written in Allegro Common Lisp.\n  It was used on the following domains: computer science (image analysis), \n  medicine, biology, physics. It is distributed free of charge (source code).\n  Available via anonymous FTP at ftp.ads.com (128.229.30.16), in\n  pub\/VISION-LIST-ARCHIVE\/SHAREWARE\/LaboImage_*\n\n  Contact: Prof. Thierry Pun, Computer Vision Group Computing Science Center,\n  U-Geneva 12, rue du Lac, CH-1207 Geneva SWITZERLAND\n  Phone : +41(22) 787 65 82; fax: +41(22) 735 39 05\n  E-mail: pun@cui.unige.ch  or pun@cgeuge51.bitnet\n\n\nFigaro\n------\n  It was originally made for VMS, and can be obtained from\n  Keith Shortridge in Australia (ks@aaoepp.aao.gov.au)\n  and for Unix from Sam Southard at Caltech (sns@deimos.caltech.edu).\n  It's about 110Mbytes on a Sun.\n\nKHOROS\n------\n  Moved to the Scientific  Visualization category below\n\nVista\n-----\n  The \"real thing\" is available via anonymous ftp from lowell.edu. Email to\n  vista@lowell.edu for more details. Total size less than 20Mbytes.\n\nDISIMP\n------\n  (Device Independent Software for Image Processing) is a powerful\n  system providing both user friendliness and high functionality in\n  interactive times.\n\n  Feature Description\n\n  DISIMP incorporates a rich library of image processing utilities and\n  spatial data options. All functions can be easily accessed via the\n  DISIMP executive. This menu is modular in design and groups image\n  processes by their function. Such a logical structure means that\n  complicated processes are simply a progression through a series of\n  modules.\n\n  Processes include image rectification, classification (unsupervised and\n  supervised), intensity transformations, three dimensional display and\n  Principal Component Analysis. DISIMP also supports the more simple and\n  effective enhancement techniques of filtering, band subtraction and\n  ratioing.\n\n  Host Configuration Requirements\n\n  Running on UNIX workstations, DISIMP is capable of processing the more\n  computational intensive techniques in interactive processing times.\n  DISIMP is available in both Runtime and Programmer's environments. Using\n  the Programmers environment, utilities can be developed for specific\n  applications programs.\n\n  Graphics are governed by an icon-based Display Panel which allows quick\n  enhancments of a displayed image. Manipulations of Look Up Tables,\n  colour stretches, changes to histograms, zooming and panning can be\n  interactively driven through this control.\n\n  A range of geographic projections enables DISIMP to integrate data of\n  image, graphic and textual types. Images can be rectified by a number of\n  coordinate systems, providing the true geographic knowledge essential\n  for ground truthing. Overlays of grids, text and vector data can be\n  added to further enhance referenced imagery.\n\n  The system is a flexible package allowing users of various skill levels\n  to determine their own working environment, including the amount of help\n  required. DISIMP comes fully configured with no optional extras. The\n  purchase price includes all functionality required for professional\n  processing of remote sensed data.\n\n  For further information, please contact:\n\n  The Business Manager, CLOUGH Engineering Group Systems Division, 627\n  Chapel Street, South Yarra, Australia 3141. Telephone:  +61 3 825 5555\n  Fax:  +61 3 826 6463\n\nGlobal Imaging Software\n-----------------------\n  \"We use Global Imaging Software to process AVHRR data, from the dish to\n  the final display. Select a chunk of five band data from a pass,\n  automatic navigation, calibrate it to Albedo and Temp, convert that to\n  byte, register it to predesigned window, all relatively automatically\n  and carefree.\n\n  It has no classification routines to speak of, but it isn't that\n  difficult to write your own with their programmer's module.\n\n  Very small operation: one designs, one codes, one sells. Been around for\n  a number of years, sold to Weather Service and Navy.  Runs on HP9000\n  with HP-UX.  Supports 24-bit display\"\n\nHIPS\n----\n(Human   Information   Processing Laboratory's Image Processing System)\n\n  Michael Landy co-wrote and sell a general-purpose package for image\n  processing which has been used for basically all the usual image\n  processing applications (robotics, medical, satellite, engineering, oil\n  exploration, etc.).  It is called HIPS, and deals with sequences of\n  multiband images in the same way it deals with single images.  It has\n  been growing since we first wrote it, both by additions from us as well\n  as a huge user-contributed library.\n\n  Feature description\n\n  HIPS  is  a  set  of  image  processing  modules  which together provide\n  a  powerful  suite  of  tools  for  those interested in research,\n  system  development  and  teaching. It  handles  sequences  of  images\n  (movies)  in precisely the same manner as single frames.\n\n  Programs and subroutines have been developed  for simple image\n  transformations, filtering, convolution, Fourier and other transform\n  processing, edge detection  and line  drawing   manipulation, digital\n  image compression and transmission  methods, noise generation, and image\n  statistics computation. Over 150 such  image transformation programs\n  have been developed.  As a result, almost any image processing  task\n  can be performed quickly and conveniently. Additionally, HIPS allows\n  users to easily integrate  their  own custom  routines.   New users\n  become effective using HIPS on their first day.\n\n  HIPS features images that are  self-documenting.   Each image stored  in\n  the  system  contains  a  history  of the transformations that have been\n  applied to that image.   HIPS includes  a  small  set of subroutines\n  which primarily deals with a standardized  image sequence  header,  and\n  a  large library  of  image  transformation tools in the form of UNIX\n  ``filters''.  It comes complete with source  code,  on-line manual\n  pages, and on-line documentation.\n\n  Host Configuration Requirements\n\n  Originally  developed at  New  York  University,  HIPS  now represents\n  one of the most extensive and flexible vision and image  processing\n  environments currently available.  It runs under the UNIX operating\n  system.  It is modular  and  flexible, provides automatic documentation\n  of its actions, and is almost entirely independent of special equipment.\n  HIPS is now in use on a variety of computers including Vax and\n  Microvax, Sun, Apollo,  Masscomp,  NCR Tower, Iris, IBM AT, etc.\n  For image display and input, drivers are supplied for the Grinnell and\n  Adage (Ikonas) image processors, and the Sun-2, Sun-3, Sun- 4, and\n  Sun-386i consoles.  We also  supply  user-contributed drivers  for  a\n  number of  other framestores and windowing packages (Sun gfx, Sun\n  console, Matrox VIP-1024, ITI IP-512, Lexidata,  Macintosh II, X\n  windowing system, and Iris).  The Hipsaddon package includes an\n  interface  for the  CRS-4000. It  is  a  simple matter to interface HIPS\n  with other frame- stores, and we can put interested users in touch with\n  users who  have interfaced HIPS with the Arlunya and Datacube Max-\n  Video. HIPS can be easily adapted for other  image  display devices\n  because 98% of HIPS is machine independent.\n\n  Availability\n\n  HIPS has proven itself a highly flexible  system,  both as  an\n  interactive  research tool, and for more production- oriented tasks. It\n  is both easy to use, and quickly adapted and extended to new uses. HIPS\n  is supplied on magnetic tape in UNIX tar format (either reel- to-reel or\n  Sun  cartridge), and comes with source code, libraries, a library of\n  convolu- tion masks, and on-line documentation and manual pages.\n\n  Michael Landy SharpImage Software P.O. Box 373, Prince Street Station\n  New York, NY   10012-0007 Voice:  (212) 998-7857 Fax: (212) 995-4011\n  msl@cns.nyu.edu\n\n\nMIRA\n----\n[ Please DON'T confuse that with the Thalmanns animation system from\n  Montreal. These are altogether different beasts! - nfotis ]\n\n  MIRA stands for Microcomputer Image Reduction and Analysis.  MIRA gives\n  workstation level performance on 386\/486 DOS computers using SVGA cards in\n  256 color modes up to 1024x768. MIRA contains a very handsome\/functional\n  GUI which is mouse and keystroke operated. MIRA reads\/writes TIFF and FITS\n  formats, native formats of a number of CCD cameras, and uncompressed binary\n  images in byte, short integer, and 4-byte real pixel format in 1- or 2-\n  dimensions. The result of an image processing operation can be short integer\n  or real pixels, or the same as that of the input image. MIRA does the\n  operation using short or floating point arithmetic to maintain the precision\n  and accuracy of the pixel format. Over 100 functions are hand-coded in\n  assembly language for maximum speed on the Intel hardware.  The entire\n  graphical interface is also written in assembly language to maximize\n  the speed of windowing operations.  Windows for 2-d image and 1-d image\/data\n  display and analysis have dedicated cursors which read position and value\n  value in real time as you move the mouse.  There are also smooth, real time\n  contrast and brightness stretch and panning of a magnified portion of\n  the displayed image(s), all operated by the mouse. A wide selection of\n  grayscale, pseudocolor, and random palettes is provided, and other \n  palettes can be generated.\n\n\nSupported functions include such niceties as the following:\n\no  image & image: + - \/ * interpolation\no  image & constant: + - \/ *\no  unary operations: abs value, polynomial of pixel value, chs, 1\/x, log,\n   byteswap, clip values at upper\/lower limits, short->real or real->short.\no  combine images by mean, median, mode, or sum of pixel values, with or\n   without autoscaling to mean, median, or mode of an image section.\no  convolutions\/filters: Laplacian, Sobel edge operator, directional gradient,\n   line, Gaussian, elliptical and rectangular equal weight filters, unsharp\n   masking, median filters, user defined filter kernel.  Ellipse, rectangle,\n   line, gradient, Gaussian, and user defined filters can be rotated to\n   any specified angle.\no  CCD data reduction: flat fielding, dark subtraction, column over\/underscan\n   bias removal, remove bad pixels and column defects, normalize to\n   region target mean, median, or modal value.\no  create subimage, mosaic m x n 1-d or 2-d images to get larger image,\n   collapse 2-d image into 1-d image.\no  plot 1-d section or collapsed section of 2-d image, plot histogram of\n   region of an image.\no  review\/change image information\/header data, rename keywords, plot\n   keyword values for a set of images.\no  luminance\/photometry: elliptical or circular aperture photometry,\n   brightness profile, isophotal photometry between set of upper & lower\n   luminances, area and luminance inside traced polygon. Interactive\n   background fitting and removal from part or all of image, fit elliptical\n   aperture shape to image isophotes. \no  interactive with 2-d image: contrast\/brightness, x- y- or diagonal plot\n   of pixel values, distance between two points, compute region stats,`\n   centroid, pan to x,y location or image center, zoom 1\/16 to 10 times,\n   change cursor to rectangle crosshair, full image crosshair, or off, and\n   adjust cursor size on image. Select linear, log or gamma transfer function\n   or histogram equalization.\no  interactive or specified image offset computation and re-sampling for\n   registration.\no  interactive with 1-d image: zoom in x- y- or both in steps of 1\/2 or\n   2 times current, re-center plot, or enlarge a framed area. 4 plot buffers\n   can be cycled through. Interactive data analysis: polynomial fitting,\n   point deletion, undelete, change value, point weighting, linear and\n   quadratic loess and binomial smoothing, revert to unit point weights\n   or original data buffer, substitute results into data buffer for pass\n   back to calling function. Dump data buffer (+ overlays and error bars)\n   to file or printer.  Change to user specified coordinate system.\no  Tricolor image combination and display, hardcopy halftone printout to\n   HP-PCL compatible printers (Laserjet, deskjet, etc.)\no  Documentation is over 300 pages in custom vinyl binder.\n\n  Cost: 995 $USD\/copy\n\n  Available from:\n\n  Axiom Research, Inc.\n  Box 44162\n  Tucson, AZ  85733\n  (602) 791-2864  phone\/fax.\n\n  international marketing rep: Saguaro Scientific Corporation, Tucson, Arizona.\n\n==========================================================================\n\nEnd of Part 2 of the Resource Listing","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I have a Seagate hard drive that I need some info specific information\non. Anyone have the ph# for Seagate Technology, Inc?\n\n(Or if they have a bbs setup that has all the drive info on it, like\nMaxtor does, I'll take that!)\n\nThanks!\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n     These zealots. Holy fuck.\n\n     Israel. Armenia. Turkey. Greece. Croatia. Serbia. Bosnia. Russia. Germany.\nIran. The Arab World.\n\n     War.\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I have an application running in one window. In this application,\nI'd like to iconize this window, and later deiconize back to window.\nHow could I do it? Your help would be appreciated.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nI had mention in a previous article that I was searching for the 300 external\ndrive.  I did call Apple Catalog as recommended and they told me the drives\nwere back ordered until May 8.  I placed an order anyways and two days later\nI had a visit from Federal Express.  Well, you can guess how I spent my weekend.\nOf course I ended up paying list price but you do get a free copy of PC Exchange\nwhen you order from the Apple Catalog.  You may want to check if they have any\ninternal drives.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nWhat?  Absolutely not.  No way.  Asimov was a lifelong atheist, and\nsaid so many times, right until his death.  Judging from the many\nstories he told about his own life, he felt culturally closest to\nJudaism, which makes sense. He was born Jewish.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nI believe the FPU on the LCIII is always supposed to go on the logic\nboard, not in the PDS board. I have heard of crashing problems with\nPDS-based FPUs on the LCIII. Asante may have fixed them but why\nbother. Why bother building an LCIII card with an FPU anyway? The\nextra circuitry gives the card one more chance to fail. I say FPU on\nmain logic board, in socket, Ethernet alone on PDS card, in slot.\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nHeck, I remember reading a quote of Luther as something like: \"Jews should\nbe shot like deer.\"  And of course much Catholic doctrine for centuries was \nextremely anti-Semitic.\n\n\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"It is important if Christianity is being damaged by it. If\npeople who \"speak in tongues\" make claims that they are\nmiraculously speaking a foreign language through the power of\nthe Holy Spirit, when it can easily be shown that they are simply\nmaking noises, it damages all Christians, since many who are\nnot Christians do not distinguish between the various sects.\n\nThe more modest claim for \"tongues\" that it is simply\nuncontrolled praise in which \"words fail you\" is surely the one\nthat should be used by those who make use of this practice.\n\nI agree with the point that \"Charismatic\" practices like this\ncan lead to forms of worship which are more about the\nworshipper showing off than genuine praise for God; one of the\nthings Jesus warned us about.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"[does he believe in predestination]\n\nreally?  you may be right, but i'd like proof.  as far as i know (and\ni am not a div school student!) the catholic church does not seem to\naccept predestination.  my chaplain told me \"beware of greeks bearing\ngifts\" with reference to this doctrine: it seems to have the curious\nresult that human beings are not held responsible for their own\nactions!  i'll answer how you deal with this in a minute.\n\n\nright.  that doesn't really seem like predestination to me, but i'll\ncontinue with what you're saying....\n\n\nthis is really confusing to me, especially since i still believe that\nchrist jesus died for ALL of us.  preknowledge of obstinacy seems\nlike an awfully convoluted way to account for a couple of verses.  but\nthen, i am not really biblically supported in this opinion -- or am i?\nothers?\n\n\nso God uses grace like margarine: he only spreads it where it's needed\nand not where it isn't?  and so there are the saved and the not-saved,\nand nothing in between.  hmmmm.\n\n\nalthough i realize this doctrine was not originally intended to cause\nsocial problems, it ends up doing just that -- if there is supposed to\nbe some sort of \"sign\" that someone is elect, like lots of children or\nsuccess at work, then those who have a good life on earth will go\naround thinking that those who don't are doomed to hell.\n\nin a way, though, this sounds like the opposite idea -- those doomed\nto hell will have a great life on earth.  that's almost like the\nconverse of what i believe -- responsibility for what we do now will\nbe punished after we die.  you're saying what we get after we die has\na direct bearing on how we live now?  strange....\n \n\nso sin is either punished now or later -- and not both?  what if it's\n sort of half-punished?  are there any grey areas in this doctrine?\n\n [my stuff deleted]\n >We should stop the slaughter of the innocent (cf Proverbs 24.11-12), but\n >does that mean that Christians should support a war in Bosnia with the\n >U.S. or even the U.N. involved?  I do not think so, but I am an\n >isolationist, and disagree with foreign adventures in general.  But in\n >the case of Bosnia, I frankly see no excuse for us getting militarily\n >involved, it would not be a \"just war.\"  \"Blessed\" after all, \"are the\n >peacemakers\" was what Our Lord said, not the interventionists.  Our\n >actions in Bosnia must be for peace, and not for a war which is\n >unrelated to anything to justify it for us.\n\n the idea (well, my idea) would be that you would intervene to\n establish peace and stop the atrocities.  i'm not suggesting wwIII.  i\n don't really understand what you mean by a \"just war\".  of course i am\n not an isolationist, although i see some merit in not jumping in at\n the first opportunity (can you say kuwait?).  we happen to be a big\n country with a lot of resources (as well as a lot of debt), and this\n gives us some responsibility in the world, whether we like it or not.\n flashbacks of wwII, as well as vietnam, should be haunting us.\n\n yet another difference of opinion.  so be it.\n\n >Andy Byler\n\n thank you for answering; i hope you don't take any of my comments as\n flames, but instead as expressions of interest.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Has anyone tried this HP LaserJet FAX.\nIt receives faxes and prints them on your HP III.\nAlso, from your word processor, you can print straight to the fax.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I am considering selling an Atari 1040 and purchasing an IBM compa-\ntible.  I need to know what kind of money or trade I can expect to get for\nthe Atari before I bother.  I am about to start graduate school, and that\nmeans I'm about to be poor!  (There's a price list for used synthesizers on\nrec.music.makers.synth, but no equivalent list for computers...)\n\nThis system is tailor-made for a MIDI musician.  Details follow:\n\n  * Atari 1040 ST\n      TOS 1.0\n      1 MB RAM\n      720K floppy drive\n\n  * SupraDrive 20 Mb external SCSI drive, 18 months old\n\n  * 12\" Atari monochrome monitor\n\n  * Generic 2400 baud external modem\n\n  * Software: All software is registered and comes with manuals.\n      Passport's Master Tracks Pro, Version 2.5 (sequencing software)\n      Dr. T's Copyist Professional (scoring software)\n      First Word (word processor - *not* the PD version)\n      Megamax's Laser C, Version 2.0 (programming language)\n      VIP Professional (spreadsheet package - low-tech Lotus clone)\n      Partner ST (desk accessory with integrated calendar, cardfile, etc.)\n      Migraph's Easy Draw (an early, pre-Postscript release)\n      NeoDesk (improved desktop for Atari ST)\n      Universal III (improved file selector for Atari ST)\n      Miscellaneous software (including Uniterm communications software)\n\n\n        I will consider all prices above $900.  I am also willing to\ntrade the Atari system for a quality (386 or 486) PC, including lap-tops.\nI own some PC hardware, so a complete system may not be necessary.\n\n-- \n== John J. Ladasky II (\"ii\") ========================= ladasky@netcom.COM ==\n\"Great composers do not borrow -\t     \"Talking about music is like\n they steal.\"  - John Ladasky\t      ~ -     dancing about architecture.\"\n(quote stolen from Stravinsky, who    o o     - Elvis Costello?  Laurie\n stole it from a statement made by     >        Anderson?  Frank Zappa?\n Pablo Picasso about painting, who    \\_\/    -------------------------------\n stole it from...)\t\t\t     \"Property is theft.\" - Groucho","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI would like to offocially nominate Maxima Chain Wax as another\nOfficial (tm) DoD product of choice.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"    |                                                                  \n    | > Mary at that time appeared to a girl named Bernadette at       \n    | > Lourdes.  She referred to herself as the Immaculate Conception.\n    | > Since a nine year old would have no way of knowing about the   \n    | > doctrine, the apparition was deemed to be true and it sealed   \n    | > the case for the doctrine.                                     \n    |Bernadette was 14 years old when she had her visions, in 1858,    \n    |four years after the dogma had been officially proclaimed by the  \n    |Pope.                                                             \n    |                                                                  \n    | Yours,                                                           \n    | James Kiefer\n\nI forgot exactly what her age was but I remember clearly\nthat she was born in a family of poverty and she did not\nhave any education, whatsoever, at the age of the apparitions.\nShe suffered from asthma at that age and she and her family were\nliving in a prison cell of some sort.\n\nShe had to ask the 'Lady' several times in her apparitions about \nwhat her name was since her confessor priest asked her to do so.  \nFor several instances, the priest did not get an answer since \nBernadette did not receive any.  One time, after several apparitions\npassed, The Lady finally said, \"I am the Immaculate Conception\".\nSo, Bernadette, was so happy and repeated these words over and\nover in her mind so as not to forget it before she told the\npriest who was asking.  So, when she told the priest, the\npriest was shocked and asked Bernadette, \"Do you know what\nyou are talking about?\".  Bernadette did not know what exactly\nit meant but she was just too happy to have the answer for\nthe priest.  The priest continued with, \"How did you remember\nthis if you do not know?\".  Bernadette answered honestly that\nshe had to repeat it over and over in her mind while on her\nway to the priest...\n\nThe priest knew about the dogma being four years old then.\nBut Bernadette did not know and yet she had the answer which\nthe priest finally observed and took as proof of an authentic\npersonal revelation of Our Lady to Bernadette.\n\n(Note: This Lady of Lourdes shrine has a spring of water which\nour lady requested Bernadette to dig up herself with her\nbare hands in front of pilgrims.  At the start little\nwater flowed but after several years there is more water \nflowing.)\n\n-Marida\n \"...spreading God's words through actions...\"\n -Mother Teresa\n\n\n\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nWell, does it change the fact that during the period of 1914 to 1920, \nthe Armenian Government ordered, incited, assisted and participated \nin the genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people because of race, religion\nand national origin?\n\nBetween 1914 and 1920, 2.5 million Turks perished of butchery at the \nhands of Armenians. The genocide involved not only the killing of \ninnocents but their forcible deportation from the Russian Armenia. \nThey were persecuted, banished, and slaughtered while much of Ottoman \nArmy was engaged in World War I. The Genocide Treaty defines genocide \nas acting with a \n\n  'specific intent to destroy, in whole or in substantial part, a \n   national, ethnic, racial or religious group.' \n\nHistory shows that the x-Soviet Armenian Government intended to eradicate \nthe Muslim population. 2.5 million Turks and Kurds were exterminated by the \nArmenians. International diplomats in Ottoman Empire at the time - including \nU.S. Ambassador Bristol - denounced the x-Soviet Armenian Government's policy \nas a massacre of the Kurds, Turks, and Tartars. The blood-thirsty leaders of \nthe x-Soviet Armenian Government at the time personally involved in the \nextermination of the Muslims. The Turkish genocide museums in Turkiye honor \nthose who died during the Turkish massacres perpetrated by the Armenians. \n\nThe eyewitness accounts and the historical documents established,\nbeyond any doubt, that the massacres against the Muslim people\nduring the war were planned and premeditated. The aim of the policy\nwas clearly the extermination of all Turks in x-Soviet Armenian \nterritories.\n\nThe Muslims of Van, Bitlis, Mus, Erzurum and Erzincan districts and\ntheir wives and children have been taken to the mountains and killed.\nThe massacres in Trabzon, Tercan, Yozgat and Adana were organized and\nperpetrated by the blood-thirsty leaders of the x-Soviet Armenian \nGovernment.\n\nThe principal organizers of the slaughter of innocent Muslims were\nDro, Antranik, Armen Garo, Hamarosp, Daro Pastirmadjian, Keri,\nKarakin, Haig Pajise-liantz and Silikian.\n\nSource: \"Bristol Papers\", General Correspondence: Container #32 - Bristol\n         to Bradley Letter of September 14, 1920.\n\n\"I have it from absolute first-hand information that the Armenians in \n the Caucasus attacked Tartar (Turkish) villages that are utterly \n defenseless and bombarded these villages with artillery and they murder\n the inhabitants, pillage the village and often burn the village.\"\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":": > \n: > I think you're letting atheist mythology\n\n: Great start.  I realize immediately that you are not interested\n: in discussion and are going to thump your babble at me.  I would\n: much prefer an answer from Ms Healy, who seems to have a\n: reasonable and reasoned approach to things.  Say, aren't you the\n: creationist guy who made a lot of silly statements about\n: evolution some time ago?\n\n: Duh, gee, then we must be talking Christian mythology now.  I\n: was hoping to discuss something with a reasonable, logical\n: person, but all you seem to have for your side is a repetition\n: of the same boring mythology I've seen a thousand times before.\n: I am deleting the rest of your remarks, unless I spot something\n: that approaches an answer, because they are merely a repetition\n: of some uninteresting doctrine or other and contain no thought\n: at all.\n\n: I have to congratulate you, though, Bill.  You wouldn't\n: know a logical argument if it bit you on the balls.  Such\n: a persistent lack of function in the face of repeated\n: attempts to assist you in learning (which I have seen\n: in this forum and others in the past) speaks of a talent\n: that goes well beyond my own, meager abilities.  I just don't\n: seem to have that capacity for ignoring outside influences.\n\n: Dean Kaflowitz\n\nDean,\n\nRe-read your comments, do you think that merely characterizing an\nargument is the same as refuting it? Do you think that ad hominum\nattacks are sufficient to make any point other than you disapproval of\nme? Do you have any contribution to make at all?","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I have a Northern Telecom disk array dated 1987 that has two 253MB drives\nunits in it and I cannot get it formatted.  I set the SCSI ID on 1 and my\nsoftware recognizes the unit, but I cannot mount it or anything - do I have\nto use BOTH drives in the array? \n\n\tAny help with these drives or possibly newer software than what I'm using\n(FWB HDT1.0 and 1.1) will be greatly appreciated!\n\n-grey\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nNow *this* is a legitimate point.  Baseball is entertainment, and I have no\nquarrel with people who find certain styles of play more entertaining than\nothers, regardless of their win-value.  Personally, I'm a huge fan of the\nslug-bunt; I doubt it's a high-percentage play, but I get a big kick out of\nit.  I am willing to live with the bad consequences in exchange for the fun.\n\nOf course, this is *not* the same as claiming (as some do) that Galarraga's\ninability to defer gratification isn't hurting his team because he \"isn't\npaid to walk\" or \"is an RBI guy\" or whatever.\n\n\nI'm not sure.  I used to think this was true, but more and more I'm becoming\nconvinced that it's the other way around: among players with the physical\nability to hit the ball real hard, the patient ones are the ones who get the\nchance to do it a lot.\n\nLet's break down the four basic categories of hitter, according to whether\nthey are power threats and whether they walk a lot:\n\n\n\t\t\tPower\t\t\tNo Power\n\n\tPatient\t\tFrank Thomas\t\tBrett Butler\n\t\t\tBarry Bonds\t\tOzzie Smith\n\t\t\tMark McGwire\t\tCraig Grebeck\n\t\t\tBabe Ruth\t\tMiller Huggins\n\t\t\tTed Williams\t\tBilly Hamilton\n\t\t\tRickey Henderson\tEddie Joost\n\t\t\tJoe Morgan\t\tMike Hargrove\n\t\t\t   .\t\t\t   .\n\t\t\t   .\t\t\t   .\n\t\t\t   .\t\t\t   .\n\n\tImpatient\tErnie Banks\t\tOzzie Guillen\n\t\t\tDave Kingman\t\tShawon Dunston\n\t\t\tJoe Carter\t\tAndres Thomas\n\t\t\tGeorge Bell\t\tJose Lind\n\t\t\tKirby Puckett\t\tDevon White\n\tetc.\n\nAs far as I can tell, all the categories are full.  It really looks like the\ntwo are independent.  Nobody could possibly be *afraid* of Craig Grebeck at\nthe plate, and yet he walks quite a lot.  Part of that, undoubtedly, is being\nsmall of stature, but surely major league pitchers can hit that sort of \ntarget at least 3 times out of 6.  Randy Milligan is an even better example;\nhe's only shown noticeable power for one (partial) season, but he walks all\nover the place, despite his huge strike zone.\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nYou are sure that what you call a 200SX we call a 240?  Just curious..\nWe also have a nissan predacessor (sp) to the 240 called a 200, which\ncame in turbo and nonturbo.  But i don't think we've ever had a 240\nturbo...just curious...(BTW, I'm in the US, if that matters..)","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Hi Mac fans,\n\nI have some problems with my new Quadra 700. Several programs\n(Mathematica 2.1, AfterDark-Mandelbrot module) causes a systemcrash\nif the 040Cache is active. Do anyone have a list of programs which\nare compatible and which are not? Do anyone have some hints for the \nuse of the Quadras perfomence?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"What is the healthiest way to deal with earwax?  Should one just leave\nit in your ear and not mess with it, or should you clean it out\nevery so often?  Can cleaning it out damage your eardrums?\nAre there any tubes in your ear that might get blocked?","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nYou mean Bobby Mozumder is a myth?    We wondered about that.\n\n\nYou mean Bobby Mozumder didn't really post here?   We wondered\nabout that, too.\n\nSo, Mr Conner.   Is Bobby Mozumder a myth, a performing artist, \na real Moslem. a crackpot, a provocateur?    You know everything\nand read all minds: why don't you tell us?","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI tried this code yesterday.  On my Sparcstation ELC it takes over\n300 seconds to compress 22 seconds' worth of speech.  This means that it\nneeds to be \"optimized\" by over a factor of 10 before it will be usable\nin even a half-duplex mode.\n\nI question whether CELP is the best approach for this application.  It produces\ngreat compression but at the expense of tremendous CPU loads.  We want\nsomething that can be run on ordinary workstations or even high-end PC's\nwithout DSP cards.  My guess is that some other algorithm is going to be\na better starting point.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nMine works great, so far......\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nComing from an idiot\/crook Armenian, I'd take that as a compliment.\nYour criminal grandparents committed unheard-of crimes, resorted\nto all conceivable methods of despotism, organized massacres, poured \npetrol over babies and burned them, raped women and girls in front of \ntheir parents who were bound hand and foot, took girls from their \nmothers and fathers and appropriated personal property and real estate. \nAnd today, they put Azeris in the most unbearable conditions any other \nnation had ever known in history.\n                               \nSource: John Dewey: \"The New Republic,\" Vol. 40, Nov. 12, 1928, pp. 268-9.\n\n\"They [Armenians] traitorously turned Turkish cities over to the Russian \n invader; that they boasted of having raised an army of one hundred and\n fifty thousand men to fight a civil war, and that they burned at least\n a hundred Turkish villages and exterminated their population.\"\n\n\n SOME OF THE REFERENCES FROM EMINENT AUTHORS IN THE FIELD OF MIDDLE-EASTERN\n HISTORY AND EYEWITNESSES OF THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE OF 2.5 MILLION MUSLIMS\n\n1. \"The Armenian Revolutionary Movement\" by Louise Nalbandian,\n   University of California Press, Berkeley, Los Angeles, 1975\n\n2. \"Diplomacy of Imperialism 1890-1902\" by William I. Lenger, Professor\n   of History, Harward University, Boston, Alfred A. Knopt, New York, 1951\n\n3. \"Turkey in Europe\" by Sir Charles Elliot, \n   Edward & Arnold, London, 1900\n\n4. \"The Chatnam House Version and Other Middle-Eastern Studies\" by\n   Elie Kedouri, Praeger Publishers, New York, Washington, 1972\n\n5. \"The Rising Crescent\" by Ernest Jackh,\n   Farrar & Reinhart, Inc., New York & Toronto, 1944\n\n6. \"Spiritual and Political Evolutions in Islam\" by Felix Valyi,\n   Mogan, Paul, Trench & Truebner & Co., London, 1925\n\n7. \"The Struggle for Power in Moslem Asia\" by E. Alexander Powell,\n   The Century Co., New York, London, 1924\n\n8. \"Struggle for Transcaucasia\" by Feruz Kazemzadeh,\n   Yale University Press, New Haven, Conn., 1951\n\n9. \"History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey\" (2 volumes) by\n   Stanford J. Shaw, Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, New York,\n   Melbourne, 1977\n\n10.\"The Western Question in Greece and Turkey\" by Arnold J. Toynbee,\n   Constable & Co., Ltd., London, Bombay & Sydney, 1922\n\n11.\"The Caliph's Last Heritage\" by Sir Mark Sykes,\n   Macmillan & Co., London, 1915\n\n12.\"Men Are Like That\" by Leonard A. Hartill,\n   Bobbs Co., Indianapolis, 1928\n\n13.\"Adventures in the Near East, 1918-22\" by A. Rawlinson,\n   Dodd, Meade & Co., 1925\n\n14.\"World Alive, A Personal Story\" by Robert Dunn,\n   Crown Publishers, Inc., New York, 1952\n\n15.\"From Sardarapat to Serves and Lousanne\" by Avetis Aharonian,\n   The Armenian Review Magazine, Volume 15 (Fall 1962) through 17 \n   (Spring 1964)\n\n16.\"Armenia on the Road to Independence\" by Richard G. Hovanessian,\n   University of California Press, Berkeley, California, 1967\n\n17.\"The Rebirth of Turkey\" by Clair Price,\n   Thomas Seltzer, New York, 1923\n\n18.\"Caucasian Battlefields\" by W. B. Allen & Paul Muratoff,\n   Cambridge, 1953\n\n19.\"Partition of Turkey\" by Harry N. Howard,\n   H. Fertig, New York, 1966\n   \n20.\"The King-Crane Commission\" by Harry N. Howard,\n   Beirut, 1963\n\n21.\"United States Policy and Partition of Turkey\" by Laurence Evans,\n   John Hopkins University Press, Baltimore, 1965\n\n22.\"British Documents Related to Turkish War of Independence\" by Gothard \n   Jaeschke\n     \n1. Neside Kerem Demir, \"Bir Sehid Anasina Tarihin Soyledikleri: \n   Turkiye'nin Ermeni Meselesi,\" Hulbe Basim ve Yayin T.A.S., \n   Ankara, 1982. (Ingilizce Birinci Baski: 1980, \"The Armenian \n   Question in Turkey\")\n\n2. Veysel Eroglu, \"Ermeni Mezalimi,\" Sebil Yayinevi, Istanbul, 1978.\n\n3. A. Alper Gazigiray, \"Osmanlilardan Gunumuze Kadar Vesikalarla Ermeni\n   Teroru'nun Kaynaklari,\" Gozen Kitabevi, Istanbul, 1982.\n\n4. Dr. Kirzioglu M. Fahrettin, \"Kars Ili ve Cevresinde Ermeni Mezalimi,\"\n   Kardes Matbaasi, Ankara, 1970. \n\nT.C. Basbakanlik Osmanli Arsivi, Babiali, Istanbul:\n\na) Yildiz Esas Evraki\nb) Yildiz Perakende\nc) Irade Defterleri\nd) Cemaat-i Gayr-i Muslime Defterleri\ne) Meclisi Vukela Mazbatalari\nf) Dahiliye Nezareti, Kalem-i Mahsus Dosyalari\ng) Dahiliye Nezareti, Sifre Defterleri\nh) Babiali Evrak Odasi: Siyasi Kartonlar\ni) Babiali Evrak Odasi: Muhimme Kartonlari\n\nT.C. Disisleri Bakanligi, Hazine-i Evrak, Defterdarlik  \n\na) Harb-i Umumi\nb) Muteferrik Kartonlar\n\nBritish Archives:\n\na) Parliamentary Papers (Hansard): Commons\/Lords\nb) Foreign Office: Confidential Print: Various Collections\nc) Foreign Office: 424\/239-253: Turkey: Correspondence - Annual Reports\nd) Foreign Office: 608\ne) Foreign Office: 371, Political Intelligence: General Correspondence\nf) Foreign Office: 800\/240, Ryan Papers\ng) Foreign Office: 800\/151, Curzon Papers\nh) Foreign Office: 839: The Eastern Conference: Lausanne. 53 files\n\nIndia Office Records and Library, Blackfriars Road, London.\n\na) L\/Political and Security\/10\/851-855 (five boxes), \"Turkey: Treaty of\n   Peace: 1918-1923\"\nb) L\/P & S\/10\/1031, \"Near East: Turkey and Greece: Lausanne Conference,\n   1921-1923\"\nc) L\/P & S\/11\/154\nd) L\/P & S\/11\/1031\n\nFrench Archives\n\nArchives du ministere des Affaires entrangeres, Quai d'Orsay, Paris.\n\na) Documents Diplomatiques: Affaires Armeniens: 1895-1914 Collections\nb) Guerre: 1914-1918: Turquie: Legion d'Orient.\nc) Levant, 1918-1929: Armenie.\n\n\nOfficial Publications, Published Documents, Diplomatic Correspondence,\nAgreements, Minutes and Others\n\nA. Turkey (The Ottoman Empire and The Republic of Turkey)\n\nAkarli, E. (ed.); \"Belgelerle Tanzimat,\" (istanbul, 1978).\n(Gn. Kur., ATASE); \"Askeri Tarih Belgeleri Dergisi,\" V. XXXI (81),\n(Dec. 1982).\n----; \"Askeri Tarih Belgeleri Dergisi,\" V. XXXII (83),\n(Dec. 1983).\nHocaoglu, M. (ed.); \"Ittihad-i Anasir-i Osmaniye Heyeti Nizamnamesi,\"\n(Istanbul, 1912).\nMeray, S. L. (trans.\/ed.) \"Lozan Baris Konferansi: Tutanaklar-Belgeler,\"\n(Ankara, 1978), 2 vols.\nMeray, S. L.\/O. Olcay (ed.); \"Osmanli Imparatorlugu'nun Cokus Belgeleri;\nMondros Birakismasi, Sevr Andlasmasi, Ilgili Belgeler,\" (Ankara, 1977).\n(Osmanli Devleti, Dahiliye Nezareti); \"Aspirations et Agissements \nRevolutionnaires des Comites Armeniens avant et apres la proclamation\nde la Constitution Ottomane,\" (Istanbul, 1917).\n----; \"Ermeni Komitelerinin Amal ve Hareket-i Ihtilaliyesi: Ilan-i\nMesrutiyetten Evvel ve Sonra,\" (Istanbul, 1916).\n----; \"Idare-i Umumiye ve Vilayet Kanunu,\" (Istanbul, 1913).\n----; \"Muharrerat-i Umumiye Mecmuasi, V. I (Istanbul, 1914).\n----; \"Muharrerat-i Umumiye Mecmuasi, V. II (Istanbul, 1915).\n----; \"Muharrerat-i Umumiye Mecmuasi, V. III (Istanbul, 1916).\n----; \"Muharrerat-i Umumiye Mecmuasi, V. IV (Istanbul, 1917).\n(Osmanli Devleti, Hariciye Nezareti); \"Imtiyazat-i Ecnebiyye'nin\nLagvindan Dolayi Memurine Teblig Olunacak Talimatname,\" (Istanbul, 1915).\n(Osmanli Devleti, Harbiye Nezareti); \"Islam Ahalinin Ducar Olduklari\nMezalim Hakkinda Vesaike Mustenid Malumat,\" (Istanbul, 1919).\n----; (IV. Ordu) \"Aliye Divan-i Harbi Orfisinde Tedkik Olunan Mesele-yi\nSiyasiye Hakkinda Izahat,\" (Istanbul, 1916).\nTurkozu, H. K. (ed.); \"Osmanli ve Sovyet Belgeleriyle Ermeni Mezalimi,\"\n(Ankara, 1982).\n----; \"Turkiye Buyuk Millet Meclisi Gizli Celse Zabitlari,\" (Ankara, 1985),\n4 vols.\n\nRussia\n\nAdamof, E. E. (ed.); \"Sovyet Devlet Arsivi Belgeleriyle Anadolu'nun \nTaksimi Plani,\" (tran. H. Rahmi, ed. H. Mutlucag), (Istanbul, 1972).\n\nAltinay, A. R.; \"Iki Komite - Iki Kital,\" (Istanbul, 1919).\n----; \"Kafkas Yollarinda Hatiralar ve Tahassusler,\" (Istanbul, 1919).\n----; \"Turkiye'de Katolik Propagandasi,\" Turk tarihi Encumeni Mecmuasi,\nV. XIV\/82-5 (Sept. 1924).\nAsaf Muammer; \"Harb ve Mesulleri,\" (Istanbul, 1918).\nAkboy, C.; \"Birinci Dunya Harbinde Turk Harbi, V. I: Osmanli Imparatorlugu'nun\nSiyasi ve Askeri Hazirliklari ve Harbe Girisi,\" (Gn. Kur., Ankara, 1970).\nAkgun, S.; \"General Harbord'un Anadolu Gezisi ve (Ermeni Meselesi'ne Dair)\nRaporu: Kurtulus Savasi Baslangicinda,\" (Istanbul, 1981).\nAkin, I.; \"Turk Devrim Tarihi,\" (Istanbul, 1983).\nAksin, S.; \"Jon Turkler ve Ittihad ve Terakki,\" (Istanbul, 1976).\nBasar, Z. (ed.);\"Ermenilerden Gorduklerimiz,\" (Ankara, 1974).\n----; \"Ermeniler Hakkinda Makaleler - Derlemeler,\" (Ankara, 1978).\nBelen, F.; \"Birinci Dunya Harbinde Turk Harbi,\" (Ankara, 1964).\nDeliorman, A.; \"Turklere Karsi Ermeni Komitecileri,\" (Istanbul, 1980).\nEge, N. N. (ed.); \"Prens Sabahaddin: Hayati ve Ilmi Mudafaalari,\"\n(Istanbul, 1977).\nErcikan, A.; \"Ermenilerin Bizans ve Osmanli Imparatorluklarindaki Rolleri,\"\n(Ankara, 1949).\nGurun, K.; 'Ermeni Sorunu yahut bir sorun nasil yaratilir?', \"Turk Tarihinde\nErmeniler Sempozyumu,\" (Izmir, 1983).\nHocaoglu, M.; \"Arsiv Vesikalariyla Tarihte Ermeni Mezalimi ve Ermeniler,\"\n(Istanbul, 1976).\nKaral, E. S.; \"Osmanli Tarihi,\" V. V (1983, 4th ed.); V. VI (1976, 2nd ed.);\nV. VII (1977, 2nd ed.); V. VIII (1983, 2nd ed.) Ankara.\nKurat, Y. T.; \"Osmanli Imparatorlugu'nun Paylasilmasi,\" (Ankara, 1976).\nOrel, S.\/S. Yuca; \"Ermenilerce Talat Pasa'ya Atfedilen Telgraflarin\nIcyuzu,\" (Ankara, 1983). [Also in English translation.]\nAhmad, F.; \"The Young Turks: The Committee of Union and Progress in\nTurkish Politics,\" (Oxford, 1969).\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nSorry to split hairs, but I just read in \"The making of the atomic\nbomb\"(*) that teflon was developed during world war 2.  A sealant was\nneeded for the tubing in which uranium hexafluoride passed as it was\ngradually enriched by difussion.  UF6 is very corrosive, and some very\ninert yet flexible material was needed for the seals.\n\n\nAlejo Hausner (hausner@qucis.queensu.ca)","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"CJF> agrino@enkidu.mic.cl (Andres Grino Brandt) asks about Mormons.\n\nCJF> Although I don't personally know about independent sudies, I do know\nCJF> a few things.\n\n\nCJF> One of the more amusing things in the BOM is a claim that a\nCJF> civilization existed in North America, aroun where the mystical plates\nCJF> were found.  Not only did it use steel and other metals, but it had\nCJF> lots of wars (very OT).  No one has ever found any metal swords or\nCJF> and traces of a civilization other than the Native Americans.\n\nI was talking to the head of the archeology dept. once in college and\nthe topic of Mormon archeology came up.  It seems that the Mormon church\nis (or was) big on giving grants to archeologists to prove that the\nnative Americans are really the lost tribe of Israel and other such\nbunk.  The archeologists would shake their head knowingly while listening\nto them, take the grant, and go off to do real archeology anyway.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Recently, Windows has starting giving me the error \"Sound Blaster Pro:\nRequires newer version of Windows 3.1.\"  It has worked correctly for a long\ntime, and don't know what the problem could be.  Thanks!\n\n\n-- ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Hi Netters.\n\nFor my home computer I have a humble MacLC with a 12\" color monitor.\n\nThe majority of my work is writing, therefore I would love to have\na b&w portrait monotor conected to the LC.  However, I sometimes do need\nthe color monitor.\n\nMy question is this;\n\nIs there a good (Cheap) way to hook up two monitors to my LC\nand is there anyone out there that has done this, how do you like it?\n\nPlease respond here or to me directly.\n\nThanks for your time, hope to talk to anyone soon!\n\njerry salem","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Hmmm.... CELP takes up about 12.6 MIPS for full duplex, and has been\nimplemented on about a million DSP chips... the 56001 card in my PC only cost\nabout $700, and I'm sure once demand goes up the prices would drop. The Analog\nDevices 21020 board that we're looking at now cost about $500 (academic price).\nI don't think hardware is something to worry about... if you get it working,\npeople will snap up internet phone cards like there was no tomorrow.\nWhat we need here is a good implementation of CELP (the government code is\nabsolute crap, I got a 30% speedup after looking at it for a couple of hours),\nand modifications to pgp to allow it to compress\/decompress 144 bit frames\nevery 30msec... I think the AD21020 should have enough juice for this (50MIPS).\nAs part of the project I'm working on now, we're trying to get CELP up and\nrunning in realtime full duplex mode... I gotta find the source to pgp and\nsee how tough it would be to integrate the en\/decryption parts into the code.\nI'll play with it. Anyone else out there got an AD21020 setup?\n\t- Ed\n_____________________________________________________________________________\n:-)  ('')  (-:  (,,)  :-)  ('')  (-:  (,,)  :-) | see lidflip instructions on\nEdward Hutchins, eah1@cec1.wustl.edu            | other side of card\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I have a new monitor which I set up approximately 3-4 feet from \nwhere the AC power enters my house - at my fuse box. \n\nIs this safe for the monitor, or will\/can the EMF emitted by the AC current eventually affect my monitor?  If so, how, and is the \ndamage permanent or would degaussing fix it?","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nHowever, to underestimate the power of religion creating historical\nevents is also a big misunderstanding. For instance, would the\n30-year-old war have ever started if there were no fractions\nbetween the Protestants and the Vatican?\n\nCheers,\nKent","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nYou obviously haven't read the information about the system. The chips\nput out serial number infomation into the cypher stream to allow\nthemselves to be identified. The system does not rely on registering\npeople as owning particular phone units.\n\nI am against the proposal, but lets be accurate in our objections.\n\n--\nPerry Metzger\t\tpmetzger@shearson.com","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":": \n: As a private citizen, I would feel much more \"secure in my person and\n: papers\" knowing that an organization committed to individual civil\n: liberties- the ACLU and the NRA come to mind- was safeguarding half of\n: my key. Both the ACLU and the NRA are resistent to government pressure\n: by the simple expedient fact that they are not supported, funded, or\n: overtly controlled by the government.\n: --------------------------\nThats one problem that has so far been overlooked. These two escrow\nagencies will have to create a secure database and service the\ninput and output of Keys. Who pays for this? If they refuse an\nillegal request from some congressman to deliver a key can their\nbudget by cut to punish them? Will congress be forced to fund\nthem forever?\n\nThe problem is that laws can change. Congress may pass a law setting\nup an escrow agency with instructions that keys are private. Some\nfuture congress may change that law. Suppose pre-nazi Germany had\na clipper system. Do you think the escrow agencies would have\ntold Hitler that he could not have the keys without a valid \ncourt order?\n\nIn effect you must set up escrow agencies as a fourth branch of\nthe goverment and isolate them from any outside interferance. \nThey will be able to directly tap into Federal funds with no\naccountability to anyone except through a court challenge.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nSomething similar has happened to me - ages ago when we were working on PGP\nwe used to send short messages about development issues or simply to test \nnew features around.  Now at this time PGP (and certainly the newer version)\nwas unknown over here.  Suddenly the admin at the site I was using received\na request that I stop sending encrypted email.  Now there is almost no way\nthat some automatic scanner could have found this, since they wouldn't have\nknown about PGP - they *must* have checked for unknown data types in the\nmessage, tried to unscramble it, found they couldn't get past the PEM\narmour part, and then contacted the sysadmin and asked me to stop.  Luckily\nthe current email carriers are less picky about what goes over their\nnetworks :-).\n\nIn case people think email scanning doesn't take place, I can assure you\nthat it is done regularly by many sites - usually not by government\nagencies (or at least not that I know of), but by local administrators who,\nfor reasons of their own, have decided to monitor all communications\n(I'm sure you can all think of a whole mess of reasons - stop hackers\/\nterrorists\/child pornographers\/drug dealers\/evil commies\/whatever).  There\nhave been several occasions when I've got people into trouble simply by\nincluding the traditional NSA bait in a message (I don't try it any more\nnow :-).  A friend of mine was once picked up for mentioning the name of\nthe UK town of Scunthorpe (hint: look for words embedded in it).  I'm sure\nthere are many more examples of this happening (in fact if anyone has any\nexamples I'd appreciate hearing from them - I could use them as\nammunition during talks on privacy issues).\n\nPeter.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nDoes anyone know of an English language edition that does not show the\nverse (or even chapter) numbers.  I have always thought that such an\nedition would be very useful - although hard to navigate around.\n\nI have a Scots NT that doesn't show verse numbers, and it is great to\nread, particularly longer narrative passages, but my Scots isn't quite\nup to doing proper study from this edition - I tend to use it to get a\n\"feel\" for a story, particularly in the gospels, and then use an\nEnglish edition to look for details.\n\nAlison","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"For sale: 030 direct slot adapter card for the mac iisi (with a mac\ncoprocessor on it as well).  If this what you are looking for.  Let\nme know, email an offer as well if you are interested.  ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nThis whole thread is rediculous.  Who cares if they had a stove going\nor not.  Does it matter if they had a stove burning, or lanterns\nburning, or candles burning, or someone smoking, etc, etc, etc.  The\npremise is that the FBI was filling the house with napalm so that it\nwould catch fire.  This is crazy.  FBI was NOT PUMPING NAPALM into the\nDavidians home.  You will have to have pretty damn strong evidence to\nconvince me of that.\n\nI can believe mass suicide\/murder by Koresh.  I can believe an\naccident by the Davidians.  I can believe an accident by the FBI.  I\ncan easily believe mass stupidity on all sides but I can not believe\nthat the FBI lit this fire intentionally.  No way.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Hello.\n      I have Windows 3.1 and I was wondering what is necessary to change the\ndefault system font to something else.  I have just obtained MSC\/C++ 7.0 with\nSDK, so I'd really like to get my feet wet with doing my first windows pro-\ngram to change the system font.\n\nTx.,\n\nWilliam F. Maton","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Did youy guys know that it is LEGAL to own a radar detector but is ILLEGAL\nto use it! Isn't that a bit like owning a gun but not being allowed to use it?\nMy mate just switches his off whenever the cops are around.  \n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Hey guys!\nI run twm and would like to execute some program before leaving twm. In other\nwords I would like to run some program before I do f.quit. Is it possible\nto make a menu section which would contain these two parts?","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\tTRIVIA TIME!!!  OK, We all know that Dave \"My Batting Average is Down\nin the\" Valle caught Chris Bosio's no hitter last night (and is batting over\n.300, BTW).  Here is the question:  Who caught Randy Johnson's no-hitter\nin June of 1990.  (Hint: Not Dave Valle :-))","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThink about what you are saying here. The 24 bit image is quantised down to 8\nbits so many 'similar' colours are mapped onto a single palette colour. This\ncolour gets modified in fairly arbitrary ways. You then want to apply these\nmodifications back to the 24 bit file, so you have to find which colours mapped\nto this one palette colour. Ok you could do this by copying the 24 bit file to a\n32 bit file and using the extra 8 bits to hold the index entry. \nHaving done this, you need to do something to them ... what, exactly?\n\nApply the difference in RGB between the original and modified palette entry to\neach colour in the group? This could generate colours with RGB outside the range\n0...255. It would also lead to discontinuities when different parts of a smooth\ncolour gradient mapped to several different palette entries.\n\nYou could interpolate from full modification to no modification depending how\nfar each colour was from the palette entry. However I suspect this would look\nrather odd.\n\nSo in summary, what I said in my previous posting still holds:\n\n\n\nIn other words, to edit a 24 bit file you need software built for the job.\nTacking mods onto xv is going to create more problems than it solves.\n\nAs to the other bits - you seemed to be claiming that there were bugs in XV. If\nthat was not what you meant, then:\n\n\nYes, I probably did. I found that the collected digest format of your posting\nmade it a little difficult to understand precisely what your point was. Sorry\nif I misunderstood.\n\n\nYes again. What *is* (was?) wrong with xv?\n\n--\nChris Lilley\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTechnical Author, ITTI Computer Graphics and Visualisation Training Project\nComputer Graphics Unit, Manchester Computing Centre, Oxford Road, \nManchester, UK.  M13 9PL                        Internet: C.C.Lilley@mcc.ac.uk \nVoice: +44 (0)61 275 6045  Fax: +44 (0)61 275 6040 Janet: C.C.Lilley@uk.ac.mcc","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Charles Hubbert writes...\n\nChevy has let in 2 or 3 soft goals so far, but they all didn't matter.\nHowever, his recent history has been inconsistant play but comes up\nbig when it counts.  The score was 4-0 I think when the goal you mentioned\nwas scored.  In the third period when it looked like Toronto was coming\nback, Chevy was exceptional.  I can see him as a Barraso style playoff\ngoalie:  inconsistant when there's nothing on the line,\nbut comes up big when really needed.  I guess we'll both find out.\n\nRon","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Greetings,\n  I need some help with the detail of geometry specification.  I have a\nprogram that uses Xlib to create a simple window.  I tried to hard code\nthe x,y location in XCreateWindow but it didn't work.  I also tried\nXSetStandardProperties, XSetWMHints with no luck.  Could somebody\nenlighten me on this subject.\n\nHans.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Good points.  In addition, I would point out that now is one of the\nbest times to fight this political battle, with much of the opposition\nin disarray -- an FBI director (Sessions) on his way out, an Attorney\nGeneral (Reno) who has only been in long enough to find the office coffee\nmachine two tries out of three (and, between slow confirmations and\nClinton's Saturday Night Massacre, hasn't much of a staff in place).\nIf we really get lucky, both of the above will be too busy trying to\nkeep their feet from being held to the Waco fire to spend much effort\ninsisting on their alleged right to spy on the American people.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I have several isolation amplifier boards that are the ideal interface\nfor EEG and ECG.  Isolation is essential for safety when connecting\nline-powered equipment to electrodes on the body.  These boards\nincorporate the Burr-Brown 3656 isolation module that currently sells\nfor $133, plus other op amps to produce an overall voltage gain of\n350-400.  They are like new and guaranteed good.  $20 postpaid,\nschematic included.  Please email me for more data.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nAnd now he is posting lies about Benjamin Franklin in talk.politics.misc.\nSeems our Mr. Salah will stoop to any level (or is that *climb*) to\nspread his hate.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":" >Can anybody tell me what exactly Windows 3.1 does to the COM ports???\n >Why can't I run a single communication program under Windows? I have ProComm+,\n >QuickLink, {COMMO} - neither of them respond to modem commands after the\n >connection has finally been established, although I'm still able to manage\n >\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tVick.\n >\t\t\t\t\t\t\t(victorf@seas.ucla.edu)\n\tThis is one of the trickiest problems w\/ Win 3.1 ... Personally I run\nTelix 3.2 for DOS under Windows just fine (and 've been waiting for the Win\nversion froever... :) ), but I have to admit I am the exception to the rule:\nI have tried installing various DOS comm progs on friends' machines, most of\nthem w\/ big problems... Some of the stuff you have to lookout for: \n1) ALWAYS run the prog thru a .PIF, never by calling its .exe, 2) In the .PIF\n_always_ toggle on _lock_application_memory_ --actually this is something\nMS points out in the readme.wri file, and is especially critical for downloading\n3) Go under Ctrl Panel\/386 enh and check for _all_ your COM ports 'Alway Warn'\n--it will help u w. debugging this thing and it's 'healthier' 4) Check where\nare u running the mouse from - com port - 5) check the com port addresses from\nyour BIOS setup and from Ctrl Panel\/Ports\/(Setup?)\/Advanced..\nThese might help u... If yu still have problems, get $100 and buy Procomm+Win..,\n:) Hope it helps somehow...\n\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"There are a number of Philosophical questions that I would like to ask:\n\n1)  If we encounter a life form during our space exploration, how do we\ndetermine if we should capture it, imprison it, and then discect it?\n\n2)  If we encounter a civilization that is suffering economicly, will\nwe expend resources from earth to help them?\n\n3)  With all of the deseases we currently have that are deadly and undetectable,\nwhat will be done to ensure that more new deadly deseases aren't brought\nback, or that our deseases don't destroy life elsewhere?\n\n\n\n-- \nHave a day,","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"All I can remember is that there was an article in Scientific American\nmaybe 20 years ago.  As someone else noted rats or mice fed nothing\nbut heavy water eventually died, and the explanation was given.\n-- \nhaynes@cats.ucsc.edu\nhaynes@cats.bitnet","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Hello everybody!\n\nDoes anybody know how to implement wordwrap with use of XDrawImageString?\nThe problem is that I don't know how many characters can be drawn in \na region. Have I to calculate character for character the width of the drawn\ntext?\n\nThank you in advance.\n\n                                ,,,\n                               (o o)\n --------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo--------------------------------\nJoerg Mainzer                  Internet: mainzer@darmstadt.gmd.de\nGerman Nat. Research Center    X.400net: mainzer@ipsi.darmstadt.gmd.dbp.de\nfor Information Technology     Voice   : ++49-6151-869923\nDolivostrasse 15\t       Fax     : ++49-6151-869818\nW-6100 Darmstadt, Germany\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nSymptom  : Bar moving.\nFault    : You are being carried out.\nSolution : Find out if you are being taken to another bar - if not complain\n           loudly that you are being hi-jacked.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nI think you must have the same hygiene teacher I had in 1955.  There \nis a story about the Civil War about a soldier who was shot in the\ngroin.  The bullet, after passing through one of his testes, then entered\nthe abdomen of a young woman standing nearby.  Later,  when she (a young\nwoman of unimpeachible virtue) was shown to be pregnant; the soldier did\nthe honorable thing of marrying her.  According to this story, they lived\nhappily ever after.  \nPerhaps the most famous of Mr. Rau's classes was the time he would come\ninto class brandishing an aluminum turning mandrel  (tapering from about\n3\/8\" to 1\/2\" over a 10 inch length).  He would say, \"Boys, do you know\nwhat this is?  It's a medical instrument called a 'cock reamer' and it's\nused to unclog your penis when you have VD.  They just ram it up there\nwithout an anesthetic!\"  Needless to say this had a chilling effect.\nI didn't have lascivious thoughts for at least an hour.  Later in life\nas I perused medical instrument catelogs and saw the slender flexible\nurethral sounds that are actually used, I could not escape thinking\nthat I might one day see, \"Reamer, Cock (style of Rau) .\"        \n]\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n  That's because they took the old VT 500 engine and stepped on it to make\n  the plant for the Hawk -> \"New Twin\".  Or does that only fly for Microsoft\n  NT (New Technology)?\n\n  I've been at this too long today ...\n\n  Cheers,\n  Victor \"Dances with Hawks\" Johnson","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
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{"text":"\n\n\n\nYou'll have to kill off half the net. Maybe that isn't such a bad\nidea...","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Putting aside our substantial differences, I'd like to ask the knowledgeable\nones to give feedback on this.  Let me explain.\n\nOne of my family members last week was discovered to have a brain tumor after\nhaving some difficulties with walking and writing (she is 64 years old).\nOtherwise, she is in fine health.  The discovery was made via CAT scans.\n\nShe then had MRI scans done, where small cancerous areas were discovered\nin her lungs.  Biopsies showed it to be adenocarcinoma.  One spot is\nin the lungs, and another in the pneumothorax.  The oncologists believe\nthe cancer started in the lungs and caused the brain tumor (she smoked\nuntil four years ago).\n\nAnyway, I'd like feedback as to what adenocarcinoma is, how it is different\nfrom other cancers, how she will be treated (luckily the tumor is right\nbelow the skull and can be easily removed), and statistically what are\nthe chances for full remission\/recovery?\n\nThanks.\n\nJon Noring\n\n-- \n\nCharter Member --->>>  INFJ Club.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nI would further add that a 486\/50,S3\/928,8mb,15\",200mbDISK is going to cost\n\/WAY\/ more than $900, probably $3,000.  Color makes it not apples\/apples too.\nXterminals provide better price\/performance than PCs.  You can make a PC\nmuch cheaper, and perform much worse, and you can make PC's perform great, and\ncost more.  You pay extra for the additional functinality and expandability\nof a PC.  For home user, that extra functionality is worth the added cost.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"]To those of you who have the BMW heated handgrips:\n]\tAre they comfortable? Do they transmit a lot of\n]\tvibration? How do they compare to the stock grips?\n]\tTo foam grips? \n\nI don't have the grips, but have looked into getting them. it's my \nunderstanding that the grips themselves are the standard european \nstyle grips now coming standard on the 93 bikes (K1100RS, K1100LT, etc).\nit's also my understanding that the heater resides _inside_ the bar \nitself so if anything I would suspect it would reduce vibration by \nproviding more bar end mass.\n\nI don't see why they wouldn't work with the old style foam grips aside\nfrom the fact that it might cause the foam to deteriorate or something.\nhard to belive considering they do fine in the 100+ degree texas summers.\n\n'course, I don't actually have them so you can save your flames.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nUltimately it rests with personal opinion...in my opinion. :-) \n\n\nThe question doesn't make sense to me. Maybe it would be better to ask,\n\"What makes a democracy better than [for example] a totalitarian\nregim?\"","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nSorry, my news reader doesn't want to reply.\n\n1) Ling, S.C. \"Fluxgate magetometer for Space Application\", IEEE Journal \nSpacecraft, Vol. 1, No. 2, March-April 1964, pp 175-180.\n\nOldish, but usable. Background information\n\n2) \"Fluxgate magnetometry\", Electronics world + Wireless world, September \n1991, pp. 726-732.\n\nGreat! Circuit diagrams etc for building an electronuc compass","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThis a wightened speed avarage for many windows tasks. The original\nposter (Ross Mitchell) was primary intersted in manipulating large\nimages, which implies moving a lot of data from memory to the card. \n\nDoes anyone have the benchmarks on this particular task?\n\n--\nPenio Penev  x7423 (212)327-7423 (w) Internet: penev@venezia.rockefeller.edu","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nThe only book I know of is :\n\t\"The X Window System Server - X Version 11, Release 5\"\n\tby Elias Israel \/ Erik Fortune\n\tDigital Press  Copyright 1992\n\tOrder number EY-L518E-DP\n\tDP ISBN 1-55558-096-3\n\tPH ISBN 0-13-972753-1\n\nBut if there are any more, please post\/email me the names.\n\n\n--\n\n\n-- bkilgore\n\n\n\n   Thus spake the master programmer:\n       \"After three days without programming,\n           life becomes meaningless.\"\n              - Geoffrey James \"The Tao of Programming\"\n\n ------------------------------------------------------","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Does anyone know about the Christian Embassy in Washington DC? What\nexactly does it do?\n\nPlease respond to lisa@ux1.lbl.gov","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nWe all had that problem, you need to expand the fonts manually, the program\n\"decomp\" is on disk 1 & the equations fonts are on disk 3\n\n\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\tHave fun","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nHow big of a lightning rod, would you need for protection?\nand  would you need jupiter as a ground plane.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n    About as hard as it was to design the Color Classic, since it's\nmonitor behaves in just this manner.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Could someone out there send me Pecota's stats for the last few years, or\nsomething to give me some sort of \"feel\" for what kind of player he is?\nMy mind has no handle on him at all, it bothers me.  Pecota of the Braves,\nthat is.  Pretty meaningful that I can't even come up with his first name,\nI think..","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\tI want one, and I don't want to move to Europe to buy one.  Please make\nit the next Pontiac F-Car.  Of course I'll have to wait 'till 2003 to buy it...\n\n\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"If I were Pat Burns I'd throw in the towel. The wings dominated every\naspect of the game.  Trying to mix up the lines is a dead end.  Murray\nhas too many combinations to counter with. My prediction is wings in 5.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I have a ST138 RLL hard drive and I have just got another 32M hard\ndrive.  The controller in my machine is a WD-1002-27X.  Can a kind\nsoul please mail me or tell me how to get jumper settings for that\nboard?\n\nI really appreciate this.  Thanks in advance.\n\nJerry\n-- ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"} \n} \n} |\"> It is interesting to look at the change(s) of mind that John has had.\n} |\"\n} |\"Very interested indeed! This is against this kind of \"changes\" that the GNU\n} |\"COPYLEFT is protecting us.\n} |\"\n} |\"Anyway, at SIMULOG, we will abandon xv. We were using it mostly for slide-\n} |\"shows because of its \"-loop\" feature that display does not have (display\n} |\"from the *wonderful* ImageMagick package! :-D), but I think I will implement\n} |\"it myself (even a shell-script should do the job) and forget xv.\n\nWe too will have to stop using it. Shame really - it was rather nice.\nStill, I have no objection to the owner claiming money for legit. \nwork he's put in. We'll just go back to the older versions of Xv.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Does anyone know where I can get a hold of some secure encrypting chips\nor devices before they are banned completely?!?\n\nSteve\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nHi Frank:\n\nI've read it a couple of times and I think that it is excellent.\nChristiandom has needed this book for some time now. I suggest that\n*every* Christian read it.\n\nAccording to Hank, they printed 15 times more than Harvest House\nusually prints for the first printing, and it still sold out in\nthe first week. It is in it's second printing, and most Christian\nbook stores have waiting lists. You can order it directly from CRI\nat 1-800-443-9797.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nSpeaking of which, a paper was out a few years ago about a\nweather sat imaging a lunar eclipse -- are those images\nuploaded anywhere?  I could dig out the reference if there's interest.\n\nShag\n\n-- ","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":":         \n:         I am facinated by the things I have heard about the PGP\n: encryption program.  Does anybody out there know where I might get a\n: version of this program that runs under Windows 3.1, MS-Dos, Unix\n: w\/source?  As of this writting I have no UNIX access and am running on a\n: nifty windows implamentation of uucico.\n\nAt the moment PGP is available in executable format for MS-DOS and Mac,\nand source code for most other platforms including UNIX. Many FTP sites\nkeep a copy (although the Mac version is getting hard to find). Try the\nfollowing site:\n\nsoda.berkeley.edu           \/pub\/cypherpunks\/pgp\n\nJon","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"+-----------------------------------------------------------+\n\t|                                                           |\n\t| \"There's no room for Christians here!\" and \"When we       |\n\t| finish with the Armenians, we'll go after the Russians!\"  |\n\t|                                                           |\n\t+-----------------------------------------------------------+\n\nDEPOSITION OF KARINE BORISOVNA MELKUMIAN [1]\n\nBorn 1963\nTeacher\nBoarding School No. 1\n\nResident at Building 2B, Apartment 21\nBlock 41A\nSumgait [Azerbaijan]\n\nThis is my fate: I had everything, we were a happy family, and now, at 25,\nI've become a widow, I'm left to raise my three children alone; the third, not\nyet two months old, was born in Yerevan. Igor and I had thought that if it was \na girl we would call her Raisa, after my mother-in-law, and if it was a boy, \nwe'd call him Arsen, after Igor's grandfather. I had a girl, and I, without\nIgor, named her Raisa, in honor of her dead grandmother.\n\nOur family and the Melkumians had been neighbors since 1965. Igor and I grew \nup together, we were friends from childhood on. We got engaged when I was 16. \nIn 1981, when I was 18, we were married. Two children were born to us in \nSumgait. My daughter is now 6 years old, her name is Kristina, and my son,\nSeryozha, is four and a half.\n\nFirst I shall tell what happened on February 27. That day on my way home from \nwork I passed Lenin Square, where about 1,500 people had gathered. There were \nKomsomol members there, and Pioneers [Children's organization], and there were \nboth Party members and non-Party people there as well. All of them were \nshouting, \"There's no room for Christians here!\" and \"When we finish with the \nArmenians, we'll go after the Russians!\" And some even cried Out, \"Death to \nthe Armenians!\" Absurd rumors had been circulating about town. I became \nfrightened. I came home, breathless, and told about everything I had seen \ndowntown. My family couldn't believe it. My father-in-law Sogomon Markovich \nMelkumian, wasn't home, he was at an Azerbaijani wedding. By eight o'clock he \nreturned and had barely finished parking the car when his rear window was \nsmashed with a rock. He got out of the car but there was no one there. Well I \nwas telling him everything, too, and he said, \"What, is there no longer any\ngovernment?\" That same day Igor said, \"Papa, something terrible is happening \nin the city.\" And he said, \"We'll stay at home, no one will drive us from our \nown home.\"\n\nThe day passed. On February 28, that was Sunday, we didn't go out. We called \nour relatives and asked them all kinds of questions, and they all said the \nsame thing. Sometime around evening they started smashing the car of an \nArmenian from the neighboring building. Ira, my brother-in-law's wife, and I \ncalled the police: they're wrecking a car, help. We called and called, and \nnonetheless they didn't come and they didn't do anything.\n\nOn February 29, on Monday, even though there were troops in the city, we were \nafraid to go to work. I called the school: I had the keys to the classroom. I \ntold the senior teacher that he should send someone for the keys, I wouldn't \nbe coming in. He agreed, and even said, \"Fine, don't come in, we understand \nwhat's going on in town, don't come in.\"\n\nBefore that, on the 28th, the Ambartsumian family came over. They came to my \nfather-in-law and said, \"Uncle Sergey, they broke our windows, bad things are \nhappening in town.\" Uncle Misha Ambartsumian even said, \"With my own eyes I \nsaw them chasing naked girls through the streets. I don't know,\" he said, \"we \nshould leave town.\" Well on the 29th we were already trying to decide where we \nshould go, thinking we'd go to our dacha. We got a couple of bags together, \nclothes, food, the bare essentials. And then somewhere around 4:45 the \nbuilding manager came by and said, \"Uncle Sergey, the situation in town is \nbad, don't go out.\" My father even opened up to him and said, \"Maybe we'll \ndrive to the dacha, it'll be safer there.\" \"No,\" he said, \"it'll be worse \nthere, you'll be safer at home.\" He said don't be afraid, if something happens \nI'll send people to save you.\n\nAfter he left about 15 minutes passed and about 200 people burst into our \ncourtyard. All of us were at home at the time: Igor and I and our two \nchildren, Ira and Edik and their daughter, my sister-in-law Ira, and my \nmother-and father-in-law. And the Ambartsumian family, there were three of \nthem, Uncle Misha, Zhasmen, and their daughter Marina. Now when they started\nbreaking down the door I remember Edik and Igor told us, \"Go in that room\nand close the door. Close the door and calm the children so they won't hear\nthat there's anyone home.\" The children started crying. Suddenly Ira, my \nbrother-in-law's wife, suggested, \"Let's run out onto the balcony.\" We -- the\ntwo daughters-in-law and the children, and Zhasmen and Marina -- raced out\nonto the balcony. My sister-in-law and my mother-in-law ran in and said, \n\"Quick, over to the other balcony, or they'll kill you all.\" We lived on the\nsecond floor. We needed to cross over from our balcony to our neighbor's. At\nfirst we couldn't manage it. The balcony looked onto the street. At that time\npeople were coming home from work, and many just stood there, watching. I \npleaded and begged: \"Please, call someone, have someone come!\" I even started \nshouting. \"I'll throw down the children, I'll throw them down, you catch them \nand take them somewhere, so at least the children will survive.\" Either they \nwere afraid or . . . I don't know what. They looked as though they were \nwatching a movie. Some of them started throwing stones at us. I'll say it \nagain, these weren't the bandits, these were people from the other part of the \nbuilding and from our entryway, they were just regular people, passersby. A \nbus even stopped. I remember a man's voice saying the Armenians were climbing\nover to the other balcony. Ira, my sister-in-law, helped us get the children \nover there. I was pregnant, about seven months pregnant. No, it wasn't yet \nseven, it was six and a half. I climbed over too. I think Zhasmen went first; \nyou know, I just don't remember it all that well. Zhasmen went first, I think, \nand Edik's wife Ira and I had the children, and they were all screaming and \ncrying. My Kristina said, \"Mamma, don't throw us over the balcony, we're \nafraid!\" Lilia was crying, and Kristina and Seryozha were crying too. Kristina \ndidn't even want to climb over. She shouted, \"I'm staying with Grandmother,\nI'm staying with Grandma!\" She loved her grandma, more than she loved me. And \nmy mother-in-law shouted, \"Oh no, Kristina's still there, she's still there, \nsave Kristina, too!\" Ira helped us climb over, with Kristina coming last. Ira \nhelped us and went back inside.\n\nWe started pounding on the neighbor's balcony door. I pounded with my fist, \nSevil, open the door, open it, please!\" She didn't open it. \"No, go away, go \nanywhere, go, I'm not opening the door.\" She was our neighbor, we were \nfriends, we never refused her anything, ever! And apparently she thought we \nwere going to break the windows, and she opened the door. She opened it and \nsaid, \"Karina, Karina, go away, go anywhere, just don't stay here, they'll \nkill us, too, because of you.\" I begged, \"Please, at least take the children, \nwe'll leave, we'll go back.\" \"No,\" she said, \"you have to leave.\" Her sons ran \nin, one had a knife. Sevil's brother, he's around 18, shouted at us: \"Get out \nof here, leave, I'll kill you with this knife!\" I became terrified, I took the \nchildren and went out in the entryway and went down a few stairs. I went down \nand heard a loudspeaker. It was in the courtyard \"The Armenians must be \nkilled, they've taken all the best places, all the best apartments!\" One of \nthem said, \"Let the Armenian blood flow, none of them should survive!\" When I \nheard that I went upstairs and started knocking on doors. No one opened their \ndoor for me! Not on the third floor, or the fourth. I couldn't see Zhasmen any \nlonger. Ira came upstairs later. I even thought that they had let her stay, \nthat they would save her.\n\nMy head was spinning. They were killing my family, and here I was in the next \nentryway with two children. Seryozha was four, and Kristina was five and a \nhalf. They were crying, \"Mamma, we're scared!\" They were so frightened that I \ndidn't even know how to calm them, should I try to calm them or myself? It was \nawful. But on the third floor a man did open his door. I asked, \"Open up, let \nme inside!\" He opened the door slightly and said, \"No!\" \"No\" and that was it! \nHe said it so sternly: \"No!\" I went up to the fifth floor. I pounded my fists \non the door with all my might. He opened up, the man of the house, and stood \nthere, looking at me. I was ready to get down on my knees. I almost did get \ndown on my knees. \"Please, I beg of you, at least take the children.\" He \nwasn't an Azerbaijani, he was a Lezgin. I don't even know how, but he let me \ninside. And when I went in, Zhasmen was already there. Two minutes hadn't \npassed when Ira and Lilia came up the stairs. Lilia was crying. He didn't want \nto open the door. And again I started pleading, \"Please, open the door, it's \nour Ira and Lilia! Open the door!\" And he said, \"No, I'm afraid.\" I said again \nand again, \"Please, open the door, please!\" He looked at me. He looked at me \nfor a long time and then opened the door after all. Ira came in with Lilia. We \nthrew ourselves into each other's arms, crying. Then the man locked us into \nthe bathroom. We sat there for a long time. Through the door he told us, \"Calm \nthe children, and calm yourselves down, too.\"\n\nCalm down? This man was hiding us, but what of our family? When I was still in \nour apartment I had sensed that none of us would come out of this alive. I \nsaid, \"Igor, Edik, let's say farewell.\" And Edik turned around and looked at \nme as if to say, is that some kind of joke? All the same I thought they would \nkill all of us. Igor looked at me, too . . . But it was already too late! They \nstarted pounding on the door, Igor was standing next to the door. Before that \nhe had told us, \"Go lock yourselves in that room and sit tight.\" He thought we \nwere in the room. But before we went out onto the balcony we went to them: \n\"Edik, Igor, let's say farewell.\" Igor didn't think we could climb over to the \nother balcony. And we did get over there, and I myself can't believe we were \nable to save ourselves.\n\nIgor put on a helmet, and Edik had his coat on, and he put on a fur hat. All \nthe men--Igor, Edik, their father, and Misha Ambartsumian--they all stood next \nto the door. They thought they would pound on it a while and leave. But from \nthe other side of the door they ordered in Azerbaijani: \"Open the door!\" We \nwere all silent, waiting. Someone outside the door said, \"They're home,\nthey're in there, break down the door!\" And I remember my father-in-law \nwhispering, \"They're going to break it down now, it's coming down now . . . \"\n\nHe had something in his hands, I think it was a knife: if they got in, we were \ngoing to defend ourselves. In the hall near the door there were two metal \nchair legs. From outside the door they said, \"We're counting to five, open \nup!\" But we were all quiet, we didn't answer them. We made like no one was \nhome. We figured they'd leave, they'd get tired and leave. My father-in-law \nhad said, \"It's not possible they'd come into my home. How can that be? \nEveryone knows us, all of Sumgait knows our family, we are on good terms with \neveryone.\" And indeed a day did not pass that there wasn't an Azerbaijani \nguest at our table. We had a nice dacha, everyone would get together there \noften, Azerbaijanis liked being with us there too. But now we had to save \nourselves, we had to flee from our own home. Ira, I remember, said, \"I'm not \nleaving here, my brothers and my parents are here, I'm going to fight \nalongside them.\" That's just what she said. She picked up a knife and said, \n\"If they open the door and come into the apartment then I'm going to fight \nalongside my family, I'm not going anywhere.\"\n\nWe were at Sevil's when they broke into our apartment. We heard fighting and \nshouting. The noise was terrible. And when we hid upstairs on the fifth floor \nat the Lezgin's apartment, you could hear everything up there, too. Even Ira's \nvoice. I remember her calling her mother several times. She called her for a \nlong time . . . I started pounding on the door in the bathroom: \"Open the \ndoor, what are they doing to Ira, who's shouting, that's Ira shouting, that's \nher voice!\" But the Lezgin said, \"It's nothing, calm down, no, it's not in \nyour apartment.\" He was lying to me so I'd calm down. Two hours went by and \nthe Lezgin opened the door and said, \"Karina, Igor got away, calm down. He ran \naway.\" He saw Igor break away and run off with his own eyes. They killed him \noutside, next to the building.\n\nWhile we were in the bathroom I experienced every possible human terror. The \nway Ira shouted! She shouted, \"Save me, Mamma, save me! . . . Mamma, Mamma!\" \nShe repeated it several times. There was a wild din. There were very many \npeople there, all of them shouting, all of them bellowing, howling, \nwhistling--you just can't imagine what was going on, what the roar was like.\n\nApparently, after they had killed Ira those murderers came into the entryway \nwhere we were hiding and came upstairs, all the way up to the fifth floor. I \ndon't know if they were just looking for any Armenians or for us in\nparticular, but I think they were looking for us because when we had climbed \nover the balconies someone on the street was saying that the daughters-in-law \nwere climbing over the balconies. And after we heard Ira we heard them coming \nup the stairs in the entryway and hammering on the doors. I thought those were \nour last moments, and started saying good-bye to my children, kissing them. \nThey were sleeping. I woke them up: \"Kristina! Seryozha, wake up!\" And I tell \nIra: \"Ira, if something happens, we'll throw ourselves off the balcony.\" We \nwere on the fifth floor. Apparently our Lezgin neighbor had opened the door \ntoo, because later he said, \"I opened the door and told them there were no \nArmenians inside.\" And after they all left our neighbor went out on the \nbalcony himself to see: they were gone.\n\nWe weren't friends with those Lezgin neighbors, we only knew each other from \nthe building. But the people we were friends with wouldn't even consider \nhiding us.\n\nThe Lezgin let us out of the bathroom. They had a candle burning. He said, \n\"Karina, there're no lights on in our block.\" The whole block was dark, the \nwhole block! It's a huge block, too. The Lezgin said, \"I'm afraid to keep\nyou until morning, I'm afraid of the neighbors, they might kill me for saving\nyou.\" I said, \"What are you saying, we'll leave now. But we can't just leave\nwith the children in the middle of the night. Give us time to find somewhere\nelse to hide.\" He said, \"Well OK, go look.\" I asked Ira, \"Ira, do you want to\ngo?\" Ira said, \"No, I'll stay with the children, Karina.\" I said, \"Fine, then\nI'll go.\" Zhasmen and I went downstairs together. It was very dark. No one \nwas in the courtyard. It was dark, pitch black. l was afraid to go out at \nafter seven, Igor always met me after work and accompanied me home, I never \nwent out alone. And now here I was out in the middle of the night and after a\nslaughter like that, too. It was probably after eleven. Later I called the \nboarding school and my director answered. He said, \"Karina, where are you?\" I\ndidn't know, I was calling from a public phone outside and didn't know where I \nwas. I got confused and hung up the receiver. From him I only found out what \ntime it was, I asked him, \"What time is it?\" He said 11:20, I think, but I \ndon't really remember. So anyway Zhasmen and I went out into the courtyard. I \nlook and see what appears to be a person not far from our apartment. And there\nwas the smell of something burnt. I became horrified. I looked at the corpse \nfor a long time. It was either Ira or Edik. I only saw one of them, Zhasmen \ngrabbed my hand and squeezed it: \"Hurry up, let's go . . . Hurry up, come on, \nwhat are you turning around for?\" I turned around and saw a large truck, it \nmust have belonged to the bandits, because they came to kill us in a truck \nlike that. We lived in the third entryway, and that truck was next to the \nfourth. We walked quickly, holding hands. I thought, if I go to the police \nthen they'll put me away. I couldn't count on them. Before I reached the \npolice station I saw a military vehicle. We went over and I said, \"Soldier, in \nBlock 41, I don't know if they've killed people or injured them--we need to \nsave them!\" And he said, \"Go to the police station and tell them everything.\" \nI said, \"I'm afraid to go there, I'm afraid of them.\" He said, \"Don't be \nafraid.\"\n\nWe went to the police and they wrote down the address, and the military \nvehicle went to our building. I didn't go with them, they left me at the \npolice station. I gave the addresses of my mother and my brothers so that \nthey'd rescue them, too. I didn't know where they were or what had happened to\nthem.\n\nAfter a while they brought my children and Ira and Lilia. First they took us \nto the KGB, that was at two or three in the morning. Then around five they \ntook us to the City Party Committee, and there were very many people there, \nvery many. I was pregnant and was wearing nothing but a dress. Seryozha was \nonly wearing a shirt, and Kristina had a little dress on. No coat, no boots, \nnothing! And we sat there for three whole days in the City Party Committee.\n\nThe Lezgin had told me that Igor escaped. And I thought that he was probably \nalive. But then after two and a half days, they took us, the Armenians of \nSumgait, to Nasosny. On March 6 some people from the Central Committee came \nand told us, \"Karina, Ira, we need you, come with us to the City Party \nCommittee.\" My Mamma had come to Nasosny, and she had been looking for me for \nsix days. Mama, my brothers, and my uncle. We went to the City Party Committee \nand waited there in the courtyard. I was wearing nothing but a dress, and Ira \nhad only a dress on as well. There was a strong wind on March 6. An hour went \nby. And then one of the functionaries told us, \"Karina, Ira, gather your \ncourage. Would you like to go to the burial?\" I said, \"What, did they really \nkill all of them?!\" He said, \"Let's look.\" He had a long list, and he started \nreading them off: Igor Melkumian, my husband, Eduard Melkumian, my brother-in-\nlaw, Irina Melkumian, my sister-in-law, Sogomon Melkumian, my father-in-law,\nand Raisa Melkumian, my mother-in-law. He read off all their names and said, \n\"Get in the car, let's go to the burial.\"\n\nWe buried our family. I couldn't believe it at the time, I couldn't conceive\nof it or imagine it . . . And even now I think how shall I explain it to my \nchildren when they're older?\n\nMy children were very attached to their father and their grandfather and\ngrandmother. Kristina didn't love me the way she loved her grandfather and\ngrandmother, they spoiled her. Kristina would always announce, \"My grandma is \nbetter than anyone!\" Now, even though she is getting used to my mother, it's \ndifficult for her, and once she told her: \"You're a bad grandmother.\"\n\nI don't know why, I asked her, \"Kristina, where's Papa?\" and she said, \"They \nkilled him.\" She knows, she understands it all. And recently I scolded\nSeryozha severely for something, and he started shouting at me, \"When Papa \ncomes I'm going to tell him everything!\"\n\nJuly 26, 1988\nNairi Boarding House\nNear the Village of Arzakan\nHrazdan District\nArmenian SSR\n\t\t\t- - - reference - - -\n\n[1] _The Sumgait Tragedy; Pogroms against Armenians in Soviet Azerbaijan,\n    Volume I, Eyewitness Accounts_, edited by Samuel Shahmuradian, forward by\n    Yelena Bonner, 1990, published by Aristide D. Caratzas, NY, page 318-324\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\tMy parents are selling a 1978 22 foot Searay. it is in excellent \ncondition and runs great. It has a mercruiser 198 inboard\/outboard engine\n(it is actually a chevy 305). It is from the weekender class so it has a hard\ntop over the driver. \nhas:\n\tTable\n\tStove\n\tWater Tank\n\tSink\n\tSleeping for 6\n\tmuch more\nit is a good all around or fishing boat. If interested or for more info write tojmparkin@mtu.edu or call (313)681-4609\n\tThanks,\n\t\tJeremy\n-- \n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
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{"text":"I need a large dog cage, the kind you use to housebreak a dog when you\nare not around.  I have been adopted by a 11 month old non-housetrained\nhuskey.  I am in the Pittsburgh area.  My number is 412 268-8843.  \n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Yes - Everyone seems to be in agreement that the Yankees are \nfinally moving in the right direction.  They should finish\nover .500 this year and maybe even be in the pennent race \nin August.  However, I would take back a few moves:\n\n1.  The Jim Abbott Trade.\n    I think Abbott is not only an inspirational person, but a\n    great pitcher also.  He could win the Cy Young this year, \n    but he won't because the right side of the Yanks infield\n    isn't good enough.  So why was this not a good trade?  \n    JT Snow.  How many rookies have been able to step in and\n    immediately have the impact that he has had so far on \n    the Angels?  I know it's early, but if you've seen this kid\n    hit, field or talk you can just tell that he is going to be \n    a tremendous player.  The Yanks should have kept him.  What\n    about Mattingly, you ask?  Well - it's great that the Yanks\n    have taken care of him and remained loyal, but he's 10 years\n    older than Snow and just doesn't have the same bat speed as\n    before his back injury.  It's a shame, but as a Yankee fan \n    who wants to see the *best* Yankee team, I'd take \n    Snow over Mattingly at first.  The Yanks also gave up two\n    promising propects with Snow for Abbott.  Besides, with\n    Domingo Jean, Brien taylor, Wickman, Militello, and Sterling\n    Hitchcock, they are just loaded with propects.  I know Abbotts\n    only 26, but this was too much to give up.  I believe George\n    forced this trade because he believes (and he's right) that\n    Abbott will be a big hit in NY.  However, I'd like to see the\n    Yankees build a baseball team, not an amusement show.\n\n2.  Wade Boggs.\n    I live in Boston and like Wade a lot.  But, his career is \n    winding down and I would rather see the Yanks start to develop\n    a long term solution (i.e. Hensley Muelins, Russ Davis, Velarde?).\n    Besides, Wade just doesn't have any range.  What a shame about\n    Charlie Hayes, huh?\n\n3.  Spike Owen.\n    See Wade Boggs.  I'd much rather see them develop Dave Silvestri\n    or whoever.  Wade and Spike next to each other in the infield is\n    going to raise the Yankee staff ERA 1\/2 point.  And these guys\n    are on the down sides of their careers.\n\n4.  Danny Tartabull.\n    Yes - he's put up some tremendous numbers and it's nice to think\n    about what he could do if he were ever healthy all year.  But he\n    never is.  We should expect 120 games max out of him.  Meanwhile,\n    Gerald Williams is playing at Columbus and Paul O'Neil is playing\n    left field!  I believe O'Neil led NL outfielders in assists\n    last year - and Tartabull is a poor defensive outfielder.\n\nWhat I'm basically getting at is the Yanks are moving in the right\ndirection but are NOT ready to win a pennent this year.  They should\n(at the GM level) be planning for a 1994 or 1995 world series.  This\nmeans getting the younger players experience in the majors NOW so they \nwill be ready in a year or two.  \n\nI'm afraid that all this stuff wreaks of George Steinbrenner.\nCertainly, the Boggs deal was all George.  It looks like George is\nplanning the right mix of veterans and young players to win a world\nseries now.  The veterans are always available and can be added at any\ntime (like Boston did this year).  Develop the young players first,\nthen add the one or two veterans (or in the Yankees case, just keep\nthem).  Let's all us Yankee fans hope that George doesn't dismantle\nthe terrific job Stick and company have done building the Yankee\norganization back into one of respect.  I'm really afraid that he will\ntrade whoever it takes to patch holes today (relief pitching for\nexample).  George must realize that the Yankees rebuilding process is\nstill one or two years away.  Have patience George and we will all\nenjoy the future.  Fire Bucky and trade the kids and it's baseball\nhell for all loyal Yankee fans for a long time!","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I wrote a letter the other day to Empower America - the organization\nwhich claims to be championing conservative issues, esp. in the wake \nof the Republican defeat last fall. \n\nSome might consider them just a an organization to create a network of \nsupport among conservatives for some individuals in prep. for '96 run.\n\nYou'd be close to the truth.\n\nTheir two leading spokesmen are Bill Bennett, former 'Drug Czar' who heartily\nsupported Bush's semi-auto import ban, and wondered if it went far enough - \nwho helped put the big lie about 'sporting use' into the public's eye - and\nJack Kemp - who recently came out in support of semi-auto bans. \n\nThese are conservatives ? \n\nAnyway I thought it interesting that when I ran Word Perfect's spell check\nagainst my letter - it came up with the following corrections for 'Bennett' :\n\n1. Banned\n2. Bayonet\n\n\nNeedless to say, I found these choices rather amusing.\n\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\"It [collectivism vs individualism] is an ancient conflict. Men have come\nclose to the truth, but it was destroyed each time and one civilization fell\nafter another. Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The\nsavage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe.\nCivilization is the process of setting man free from men.\"\n    -- Ayn Rand : 'Roark's speech from the _Fountainhead_'\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nI don't speak for my company. We hire the 'Politically Correct' to do that.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI have to agree with Ward.  The problem with your approach is they add\nup what you can reasonably claim as 'spin-offs', add up what's been\nspent on space, and then come back with something like, \"You spent $X\nbillion for that?  Wouldn't it be better just to spend the money on\ndirect research and forget all this space stuff?  We could have got\nall that stuff a *lot* cheaper that way.  Space is wasteful and\ninefficient.\"\n\nThen they cancel your funding and spend it studying mating rituals of\nNew Guinea tribesmen or something.\n\n-- \n\"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live\n in the real world.\"   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"can someone tell me where i could find ansi or ascii pics?\n\nI already found the gopher ascii pics.\n\n\nthanks\n\nRichard Mancsuo","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nxli and xloadimage have a -goto flag.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I use a ZYGON Mind Machine as bought in the USA last year.  Although\nit's no wonder cure for what ail's you.  It is however VERY good at\nstopping you thinking!\n\nSound strange?  Well suppose you're tired and want to go to bed\/sleep.\nBUT your head is full of niggling problems to resolve, you lay in the\nbed, and quickly they all come to the surface, churning around from one\nunresolved thing to the next and then back again.  Been there, bought\nthe t-shirt?\n\nI slip on the Zygon and select a soothing pattern of light & sound, and\nquickly I just can't concentrate on the previous stuff. Your brain's\ncache kinda get's flushed, and you start on a whole new set of stuff.\n\nA useful addition, is the facility to feed the output of a tape player\nor CD through the box, I use New Age elevator muzak to enhance the\noverall effect.\n\nDEFFO better than a pill.\n\nCheers Nigel","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nJeez, that should do it.\n\n\nVery interesting application, controlled lighting and environment, moderate\ndistances ... might be more interesting than my application.  Just a thought,\nyou could use a roof mounted IR sender, similar in operation to a TV remote\ncontrol that tells each persons coded IR pulser to send a pulse.  A Hamamatsu\ndetector, as was mentioned in a previous message in this thread, would give\nthe current position.  Store and collate this on a computer and you could\nreplay the movements on the screen.  Interesting!\n\n--","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nLucky they brought the situation to a prompt resolution before they had to \nturn things over to the amateurs.\n\n\nGod help us all.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"It seems that, to keep the peace talks going, Israel has to keep\nmaking goodwill gesture after goodwill gesture, while Palestinian\nArabs continue to go around hunting Jews.\n\nIf the peace talks are going to have any realistic chance of success,\nthe Arabs are going to have to start reciprocating, especially since\nthey are the ones who will be getting tangible concessions in return\nfor giving up only intangibles.  If they keep trying to change the\nalready agreed upon rules, which seems to be one of their favorite\ngames, the Israelis are not likely to be very confident that the\nintangibles they will receive at the bargaining table will be worth\nthe parchment they're written on.\n\nIt takes two to negotiate a peace.  It's time for the Arabs to start\ndoing their share.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Ugliest swing..I am not sure. I think the ugliset stance is\nJolio Franco of the Ranger. I wonder how that bat comes around in time\nto hit the ball. It looks bad but hey.it get the job done. ","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n: Unfortunately, that is the way the league is heading... You can't fight,\n: so the only way to retaliate against someone is with a cheap shot when\n: the ref isn't looking. Ulf has brought this to a high level... Players\n: stuck in the past (like Neely) who prefer fights to cheap shots\n: are at a disadvantage in the new system.\n\n: Lets face it, A cheap shot (like high sticking) is a very effective\n: method... It is easier to hide from the refs, has a better chance of\n: causing injury, and you can draw people into fights that way. I don't\n: like it, but that's the way the league is going.\n\n: By the way, there was a rather good hit by Ulf in the last Penguin-Devil\n: game. Managed to hit the NJ player in the face with a stick. (Must have been a\n: legal hit... After all, Ulf is a clean player and is allowed to do\n: things like that.)\n\nAre there any ex NHL hockey players out there who might care to\ncomment on this and end this ridiculously long discussion?\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nI had a similar experience.  We had a written quote which had been mailed\nto us from the salesman at one of these \"no-haggle\" Toyota dealers for\na Camry XLE w\/ABS, leather, etc.  The price seemed fair, but when we\nwent in to take them up on their offer, they \"discovered\" that certain\nextra cost items hadn't been included in their original written quote.\nIt would have totaled an extra $1100 and, in spite of the fact that we\nhad a written quote, they said there was nothing they could do.\n\nBottom line, quotes from salemen are worthless and it appears to me that\nthe Toyota dealers think they've got such a superior auto that they\ndon't have to deal.  We walked, went out and bought a new LH car\n(Eagle Vision TSI) and I don't regret it one bit!\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"The universe, mirrored in a puddle.\nIsn't it amazing how there *always* seems to be *another* bottle of bheer there?\n\nAleph *one* bottles of beer on the wall, Aleph *one* null bottles of beer!\n\n\tyou, too, are a puddle.\n\tAs above, so below.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nFrom _Free Inquiry_, Winter 83\/84,  the following is an\nintroduction to the article \"Joseph Smith and the Book of\nMormon\", by George D. Smith.  The introduction is written by\nPaul Kurtz. \n\n\tMormonism -- the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints\n\t-- claims a worldwide membership 5.2 million.  It is one of\n\tthe world's fastest growing religions, with as many as\n\t200,000 new converst in 1982 alone.  Because of the church's\n\taggressive missionary program, covering more than one\n\thundred countries, it is spreading even to third world\n\tcountries.\n\t\n\tMormonism is both puritanical in moral outlook and\n\tevangelical in preachment.  The church is run along strict\n\tauthoritarian lines.  Led by a president, who allegedly\n\treceives revelations directly form God, and a group of\n\ttwelve apostles who attempt to maintain orthodoxy in belief\n\tand practice, the church is opposed to abortion,\n\tpornography, sexual freedom, women's rights, and other, in\n\tits view, immoral influences of secular society, and it\n\tforbids the use of tobacco, alcohol, coffee, and tea.\n\t\n\tCentered in Salt Lake City, the church is extremely wealthy\n\tand politically powerful in Utal and many other western\n\tstates.  Among well-know present-day Mormons are Ezra Taft\n\tBenson (former secretary of agriculture), the Osmond family,\n\tthe Mariotts of the hotel empire, and a score of high-placed\n\tgovernment officials.\n\t\n\tThe Mormon church was founded in western New York in 1830 by\n\tJoseph Smith who claimed that by divine revelation be had\n\tfound gold plates containing hieroglyphics buried on a hill\n\tand that with the help of visits from the angel Moroni he\n\thad been able to translate the writing into the _Book of\n\tMormon_, the basis of Mormon belief.  This book, written \"by\n\tthe commandment of God,\" claims that the ancient Hebrews\n\tsettled in America about 600 B.C.E. and were the ancestors\n\tof the American Indians.  Mormons believe that those who\n\thave been baptized in the \"true church\" will be reunited\n\tafter death and that deceased non-Mormon family members can\n\tbe baptized by proxy and thus join their relatives in the\n\thereafter.  Because of these beliefs, Mormons have been\n\tconsidered outcasts by mainline Christian denominations and\n\tas heretics by religious fundamentalists.\n\t\n\tJoseph Smith was a controversial figure in his day -- he was\n\tboth worshiped as a saint and denounced as a fraud.  Because\n\tof persecution he led his band of loyal followers from\n\tPalmyra, New York, westward to Ohio and then to Illinois,\n\twhere in 1844 he was shot to death by an agry mob.  Brigham\n\tYoung, who reportedly had as many as eighty wives, took over\n\tthe leadership of the church and led the Mormons further\n\twestward, to found the new Zion in Salt Lake City. \n\tFollowing the teachings of Joseph Smith in the practice of\n\tpolygamy was perhaps the Mormons most controversial practice\n\tin nineteenth-century America.\n\t\n\tWhile other religions go back many centuries --\n\tMuhammadanism, 1200 years; Christianity, 2000; and Judaism,\n\t3000 -- and attempts to examine their beginnings are\n\tdifficult, extensive historical investigation of Mormon\n\troots is possible.  Some Mormons are willing to examine this\n\thistory objectively, bu others maintain that such scrutiny\n\tis dangerous to the faith.\n\t\n\tIn the following pages, _Free Inquiry_ presents two articles\n\tabout the Mormon church.  First, George D. Smith, a lifelong\n\tmember of the church, provides a detailed critical\n\texamination of Joseph Smith and his claim the the _Book of\n\tMormon_ was divinely revealed.  Second, we present a portion\n\tof an interview with philosopher Sterling McMurrin, also a\n\tMormon since birth, who questions the treatment of the\n\thistory of the church by Mormon authorities. -- Paul Kurtz\n\t\n\nThe article itself is super.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nYou should remember that in Adam's transgression, all men and women\nsinned, as Paul wrote.  All of humanity cooperativley reblled against\nGod in Adma's sin, thus, all are subject to it, and the sin is\ntransmitted from generation to generation.\n\nAndy Byler]","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nWell, yeah. On the other hand, for the first few years of his career he\nlooked like Herb Washington. Dan Gladden doesn't seem to suck defensively,\neither.\n\nYeah, and how many of the white guys played one year into a long career?\nIt's actually not an uncommon phenomenon, and how long a guy hangs around\nbased on one good year seems like a reasonable question to explore on a\nracial basis.\n\nHey, he plays for Lou Gorman, doesn't he? OK, so it's eight years.\n\n\nGood point on Cedeno. OTOH, I haven't seen that extensive list of 10-year\nDan Gladdens, either. There really aren't that many players altogether who\nhang around for 10 years even if they're reasonably good.\n\n Mike Jones | AIX High-End Development | mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nI've been reading this board passively for a while now and find the\nsubject absolutely fascinating, especially from the point of view of\na civil rights nut like myself.  My problem is that I'm new to the field\nand paragraphs like the above keep popping up.  I'm sure what Mr. \nBellovin is writing about is both fascinating and important, but I have \nNO IDEA what it means.  :-)   \n  \n  Anyway I'm keen to learn and will read anything I can get my hands on\nthat explains this stuff in lay terms (I have a decent CS background, but\nnot a huge amount of hyper-advanced math).  Can anyone point me to a FAQ\nor a decent source of information about the guts of current cryptography and\nmaybe a little history as well?  I read the piece in this month's WIRED, can\nanyone tell me how much I should trust the references they suggest?\n\n  Thanks in advance,\n   Steve.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"The original poster wanted to know how the Big Cat looked. I was also at\nthe Saturday game in Montreal (Apr 17) that Rockies won 9-1. I haven't\npaid much attention to Gallarraga since he left the Expos but his stance\nseemed to be MUCH different. He stands more erect and very open, with his\nleft foot pointing to 3rd base. I'm wondering if this is a recent change\nin stance for him? Andres had one glaring weakness as a hitter. He could\nalways be fooled by a curve ball low and away. If this is indeed a new\nstance for him, maybe he is not being fooled as easily? As for his patience,\n\nDennis Martinez definitely did not have his good stuff. If he was grooving\npitches to Andres, you can hardly fault him for drilling them (which he did!).\nDoes Andres generally start hot or cold? Does it take until May for most\npitchers to have confidence in that curve ball low and away?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\tYeah! that's the guys!\n\n\n\tYeah, that sounds a lot like lasertag anyway....  :-)","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Hello all,\n   I need to make  some torso 3D scans and would like the phone numbers of\ncompanies in the midwest that make scans, and the numbers of companies that\nmake the sanners (ie Cyberware). Does anyone have an idea of how much a\nsingle scan costs and the best format to save it in? I am not sure on what\nsoftware platform I will be using it in, probably either Softimage or\nWavefront. So I think a spline based format would be best. Please forward the\nnumbers to me personally as I am having problems accessing USENET lately.\nThanks in advance!","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n: \tThis comes indirectly from Al Morgani who works in the studio\n: for ESPN hockey.\n[Some text deleted]\n: \tESPN is under contractual obligation to show baseball and COULD NOT\n: broadcast the OT of the hockey game.  Next year, ESPN2 will be introduced so \n: baseball fans can watch baseball and hockey fans can watch hockey.\n\nI hadn't heard about this new ESPN2. When is this new network\nsupposed to start? Sounds great to me! (as long as my cable co.\noffers it)\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Where can I buy blinking LEDs besides radio shack? \n\n\n  * Does anyone sell blinking LEDs with variable flash rate? (by voltage\n    I guess) If so, what hertz (pulse) rate are they adjustable or set to?\n\n     I'd like blinking LEDs that can be set for approx 5 hz, 10 hz, \n     15 hz, or 20 hz. Something like that... I'm interested in what's\n     out there for flash rates. I like the idea of LEDs with flasher \n     circuits already in them. I hate soldering ICs in general. Guess I\n     don't have a hell of a lot of patience. \n\n\n      Thanks,","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Edgar Pearlstein asks (Fri 7 May 1993) whether the Supreme Court, or\nany other government authority, has attempted a legal definition of\nreligion.\n\nThe Universal Military Training and Service Act of 1958 exempted\nfrom the draft those whose \"religious training and belief\" was\nopposed to participation in war in any form. It defined \"R T & B\" as\n\"an individual's belief in a relation to a Supreme Being involving\nduties superior to those arising from any human relation, but [not\nincluding] essentially political, sociological, or philosophical\nviews or a merely personal moral code.\"\n\nIn the 1965 case of UNITED STATES V. SEEGER, the Supreme Court\nbroadened the definition so as not to restrict it to explicit\n\n   We have concluded that Congress, in using the expression \"Supreme\n   Being\" rather than the designation \"God,\" .... the test of belief\n   \"in a relation to a Superme Being\" is whether a given belief that\n   is sincere and meaningful occupies a place in the life of its\n   possessor parallel to that filled by the orthodox belief in God\n   of one who clearly qualifies for the exemption. Where such\n   beliefs have parallel positions in the lives of their respective\n   holders we cannot say that one is \"in a relation to a Supreme\n   Being\" and the other is not....\"\n\nMy immediate reference is THE FIRST FREEDOM, by Nat Hentoff,\n(Delacorte 1980, Dell 1981).","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"A bunch of things i have too many of :\nchips :\ntype\t    new\/pull  price      desc\nAD1856\t       N\t$3.50\t16 bit serial D\/A converter smt like PCM56\nTMS32020GBL  P\t$12.00\tTI DSP chip\nMC68020RC25  P  \t$12.00\tMake your own Mac ????\nZ08613\/08STD  N\t$12.00\tPiggyback emulator for Z8 family\nD77P20\t       P\t$12.00\tNEC's EPROM version DSP chip\nMK38P73\t       P\t$25.00\tyou gotta really want 'em !\nLM213\t       N\t$30.00 \tHitachi 256*64 bitmapped display\nlots of others including 22V10, C22V10, 16L8,16R8\nother stuff includes :\nCipher tape drives\t\t\t\t$10.00 \nData I\/O device programmer\t$60.00\tdont go !\nApple Laserwriter\t\t\t\t$550.00\ta beauty-only 8k page\nMac 800k int drives\t\t\t$40.00","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nPoor 'Poly'. I see you're preparing the groundwork for yet another \nretreat from your 'Arromdian-ASALA\/SDPA\/ARF' claims. \n\n\nJust love it. If that does ever happen, look out the window and see\nif there is a non-fascist\/Nazi x-Soviet Armenian Government in the East. \nBy the way, your ignorance on the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million Muslim \npeople is hardly characteristic of most 'Arromdians'. \n\n\nSource: K. S. Papazian, \"Patriotism Perverted,\" Baikar Press, Boston, 1934.\n\npp. 17-18.\n\n\"It seems that terrorism against their own co-nationals has been a prominent\n part of the revolutionary activities of the Dashnag leaders of the Caucasus.\n Organized to fight the Turks, these chieftains have been more successful\n in their fight against their Armenian opponents in Turkey, and the Caucasus,\n very often defenseless and innocent.\"\n\np. 38.\n\n\"The fact remains, however, that the leaders of the Turkish Armenian section\n of the Dashnagtzoutune did not carry out their promise of loyalty to the\n Turkish cause when the Turks entered the war...and a call was sent for \n Armenian volunteers to fight the Turks on the Caucasian front.\"\n\np. 38.\n\n\"Thousands of Armenians from all over the world, flocked to the standards of\n such famous fighters as Antranik, Kery, Dro, etc. The Armenian volunteer\n regiments rendered valuable service to the Russian Army in the years of\n 1914-15-16.\"\n\nGot a map? Got a minute?\n\nSource #1: McCarthy, J., \"Muslims and Minorities, The Population of Ottoman \n           Anatolia and the End of the Empire,\" New York University Press, \n           New York, 1983, pp. 133-144.\n\nSource #2: Hovannisian, Richard G., \"Armenia on the Road to Independence,\n           1918. University of California Press (Berkeley and Los Angeles),\n           1967, p. 13.\n\nNow where is your non-existent list of scholars and publicly available \nscholarly sources; here is mine. What an 'Arromdian'... \n\n\n SOME OF THE REFERENCES FROM EMINENT AUTHORS IN THE FIELD OF MIDDLE-EASTERN\n HISTORY AND EYEWITNESSES OF THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE OF 2.5 MILLION MUSLIMS\n\n1. \"The Armenian Revolutionary Movement\" by Louise Nalbandian,\n   University of California Press, Berkeley, Los Angeles, 1975\n\n2. \"Diplomacy of Imperialism 1890-1902\" by William I. Lenger, Professor\n   of History, Harward University, Boston, Alfred A. Knopt, New York, 1951\n\n3. \"Turkey in Europe\" by Sir Charles Elliot, \n   Edward & Arnold, London, 1900\n\n4. \"The Chatnam House Version and Other Middle-Eastern Studies\" by\n   Elie Kedouri, Praeger Publishers, New York, Washington, 1972\n\n5. \"The Rising Crescent\" by Ernest Jackh,\n   Farrar & Reinhart, Inc., New York & Toronto, 1944\n\n6. \"Spiritual and Political Evolutions in Islam\" by Felix Valyi,\n   Mogan, Paul, Trench & Truebner & Co., London, 1925\n\n7. \"The Struggle for Power in Moslem Asia\" by E. Alexander Powell,\n   The Century Co., New York, London, 1924\n\n8. \"Struggle for Transcaucasia\" by Feruz Kazemzadeh,\n   Yale University Press, New Haven, Conn., 1951\n\n9. \"History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey\" (2 volumes) by\n   Stanford J. Shaw, Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, New York,\n   Melbourne, 1977\n\n10.\"The Western Question in Greece and Turkey\" by Arnold J. Toynbee,\n   Constable & Co., Ltd., London, Bombay & Sydney, 1922\n\n11.\"The Caliph's Last Heritage\" by Sir Mark Sykes,\n   Macmillan & Co., London, 1915\n\n12.\"Men Are Like That\" by Leonard A. Hartill,\n   Bobbs Co., Indianapolis, 1928\n\n13.\"Adventures in the Near East, 1918-22\" by A. Rawlinson,\n   Dodd, Meade & Co., 1925\n\n14.\"World Alive, A Personal Story\" by Robert Dunn,\n   Crown Publishers, Inc., New York, 1952\n\n15.\"From Sardarapat to Serves and Lousanne\" by Avetis Aharonian,\n   The Armenian Review Magazine, Volume 15 (Fall 1962) through 17 \n   (Spring 1964)\n\n16.\"Armenia on the Road to Independence\" by Richard G. Hovanessian,\n   University of California Press, Berkeley, California, 1967\n\n17.\"The Rebirth of Turkey\" by Clair Price,\n   Thomas Seltzer, New York, 1923\n\n18.\"Caucasian Battlefields\" by W. B. Allen & Paul Muratoff,\n   Cambridge, 1953\n\n19.\"Partition of Turkey\" by Harry N. Howard,\n   H. Fertig, New York, 1966\n   \n20.\"The King-Crane Commission\" by Harry N. Howard,\n   Beirut, 1963\n\n21.\"United States Policy and Partition of Turkey\" by Laurence Evans,\n   John Hopkins University Press, Baltimore, 1965\n\n22.\"British Documents Related to Turkish War of Independence\" by Gothard \n   Jaeschke\n     \n1. Neside Kerem Demir, \"Bir Sehid Anasina Tarihin Soyledikleri: \n   Turkiye'nin Ermeni Meselesi,\" Hulbe Basim ve Yayin T.A.S., \n   Ankara, 1982. (Ingilizce Birinci Baski: 1980, \"The Armenian \n   Question in Turkey\")\n\n2. Veysel Eroglu, \"Ermeni Mezalimi,\" Sebil Yayinevi, Istanbul, 1978.\n\n3. A. Alper Gazigiray, \"Osmanlilardan Gunumuze Kadar Vesikalarla Ermeni\n   Teroru'nun Kaynaklari,\" Gozen Kitabevi, Istanbul, 1982.\n\n4. Dr. Kirzioglu M. Fahrettin, \"Kars Ili ve Cevresinde Ermeni Mezalimi,\"\n   Kardes Matbaasi, Ankara, 1970. \n\nT.C. Basbakanlik Osmanli Arsivi, Babiali, Istanbul:\n\na) Yildiz Esas Evraki\nb) Yildiz Perakende\nc) Irade Defterleri\nd) Cemaat-i Gayr-i Muslime Defterleri\ne) Meclisi Vukela Mazbatalari\nf) Dahiliye Nezareti, Kalem-i Mahsus Dosyalari\ng) Dahiliye Nezareti, Sifre Defterleri\nh) Babiali Evrak Odasi: Siyasi Kartonlar\ni) Babiali Evrak Odasi: Muhimme Kartonlari\n\nT.C. Disisleri Bakanligi, Hazine-i Evrak, Defterdarlik  \n\na) Harb-i Umumi\nb) Muteferrik Kartonlar\n\nBritish Archives:\n\na) Parliamentary Papers (Hansard): Commons\/Lords\nb) Foreign Office: Confidential Print: Various Collections\nc) Foreign Office: 424\/239-253: Turkey: Correspondence - Annual Reports\nd) Foreign Office: 608\ne) Foreign Office: 371, Political Intelligence: General Correspondence\nf) Foreign Office: 800\/240, Ryan Papers\ng) Foreign Office: 800\/151, Curzon Papers\nh) Foreign Office: 839: The Eastern Conference: Lausanne. 53 files\n\nIndia Office Records and Library, Blackfriars Road, London.\n\na) L\/Political and Security\/10\/851-855 (five boxes), \"Turkey: Treaty of\n   Peace: 1918-1923\"\nb) L\/P & S\/10\/1031, \"Near East: Turkey and Greece: Lausanne Conference,\n   1921-1923\"\nc) L\/P & S\/11\/154\nd) L\/P & S\/11\/1031\n\nFrench Archives\n\nArchives du ministere des Affaires entrangeres, Quai d'Orsay, Paris.\n\na) Documents Diplomatiques: Affaires Armeniens: 1895-1914 Collections\nb) Guerre: 1914-1918: Turquie: Legion d'Orient.\nc) Levant, 1918-1929: Armenie.\n\n\nOfficial Publications, Published Documents, Diplomatic Correspondence,\nAgreements, Minutes and Others\n\nA. Turkey (The Ottoman Empire and The Republic of Turkey)\n\nAkarli, E. (ed.); \"Belgelerle Tanzimat,\" (istanbul, 1978).\n(Gn. Kur., ATASE); \"Askeri Tarih Belgeleri Dergisi,\" V. XXXI (81),\n(Dec. 1982).\n----; \"Askeri Tarih Belgeleri Dergisi,\" V. XXXII (83),\n(Dec. 1983).\nHocaoglu, M. (ed.); \"Ittihad-i Anasir-i Osmaniye Heyeti Nizamnamesi,\"\n(Istanbul, 1912).\nMeray, S. L. (trans.\/ed.) \"Lozan Baris Konferansi: Tutanaklar-Belgeler,\"\n(Ankara, 1978), 2 vols.\nMeray, S. L.\/O. Olcay (ed.); \"Osmanli Imparatorlugu'nun Cokus Belgeleri;\nMondros Birakismasi, Sevr Andlasmasi, Ilgili Belgeler,\" (Ankara, 1977).\n(Osmanli Devleti, Dahiliye Nezareti); \"Aspirations et Agissements \nRevolutionnaires des Comites Armeniens avant et apres la proclamation\nde la Constitution Ottomane,\" (Istanbul, 1917).\n----; \"Ermeni Komitelerinin Amal ve Hareket-i Ihtilaliyesi: Ilan-i\nMesrutiyetten Evvel ve Sonra,\" (Istanbul, 1916).\n----; \"Idare-i Umumiye ve Vilayet Kanunu,\" (Istanbul, 1913).\n----; \"Muharrerat-i Umumiye Mecmuasi, V. I (Istanbul, 1914).\n----; \"Muharrerat-i Umumiye Mecmuasi, V. II (Istanbul, 1915).\n----; \"Muharrerat-i Umumiye Mecmuasi, V. III (Istanbul, 1916).\n----; \"Muharrerat-i Umumiye Mecmuasi, V. IV (Istanbul, 1917).\n(Osmanli Devleti, Hariciye Nezareti); \"Imtiyazat-i Ecnebiyye'nin\nLagvindan Dolayi Memurine Teblig Olunacak Talimatname,\" (Istanbul, 1915).\n(Osmanli Devleti, Harbiye Nezareti); \"Islam Ahalinin Ducar Olduklari\nMezalim Hakkinda Vesaike Mustenid Malumat,\" (Istanbul, 1919).\n----; (IV. Ordu) \"Aliye Divan-i Harbi Orfisinde Tedkik Olunan Mesele-yi\nSiyasiye Hakkinda Izahat,\" (Istanbul, 1916).\nTurkozu, H. K. (ed.); \"Osmanli ve Sovyet Belgeleriyle Ermeni Mezalimi,\"\n(Ankara, 1982).\n----; \"Turkiye Buyuk Millet Meclisi Gizli Celse Zabitlari,\" (Ankara, 1985),\n4 vols.\n\nRussia\n\nAdamof, E. E. (ed.); \"Sovyet Devlet Arsivi Belgeleriyle Anadolu'nun \nTaksimi Plani,\" (tran. H. Rahmi, ed. H. Mutlucag), (Istanbul, 1972).\n\nAltinay, A. R.; \"Iki Komite - Iki Kital,\" (Istanbul, 1919).\n----; \"Kafkas Yollarinda Hatiralar ve Tahassusler,\" (Istanbul, 1919).\n----; \"Turkiye'de Katolik Propagandasi,\" Turk tarihi Encumeni Mecmuasi,\nV. XIV\/82-5 (Sept. 1924).\nAsaf Muammer; \"Harb ve Mesulleri,\" (Istanbul, 1918).\nAkboy, C.; \"Birinci Dunya Harbinde Turk Harbi, V. I: Osmanli Imparatorlugu'nun\nSiyasi ve Askeri Hazirliklari ve Harbe Girisi,\" (Gn. Kur., Ankara, 1970).\nAkgun, S.; \"General Harbord'un Anadolu Gezisi ve (Ermeni Meselesi'ne Dair)\nRaporu: Kurtulus Savasi Baslangicinda,\" (Istanbul, 1981).\nAkin, I.; \"Turk Devrim Tarihi,\" (Istanbul, 1983).\nAksin, S.; \"Jon Turkler ve Ittihad ve Terakki,\" (Istanbul, 1976).\nBasar, Z. (ed.);\"Ermenilerden Gorduklerimiz,\" (Ankara, 1974).\n----; \"Ermeniler Hakkinda Makaleler - Derlemeler,\" (Ankara, 1978).\nBelen, F.; \"Birinci Dunya Harbinde Turk Harbi,\" (Ankara, 1964).\nDeliorman, A.; \"Turklere Karsi Ermeni Komitecileri,\" (Istanbul, 1980).\nEge, N. N. (ed.); \"Prens Sabahaddin: Hayati ve Ilmi Mudafaalari,\"\n(Istanbul, 1977).\nErcikan, A.; \"Ermenilerin Bizans ve Osmanli Imparatorluklarindaki Rolleri,\"\n(Ankara, 1949).\nGurun, K.; 'Ermeni Sorunu yahut bir sorun nasil yaratilir?', \"Turk Tarihinde\nErmeniler Sempozyumu,\" (Izmir, 1983).\nHocaoglu, M.; \"Arsiv Vesikalariyla Tarihte Ermeni Mezalimi ve Ermeniler,\"\n(Istanbul, 1976).\nKaral, E. S.; \"Osmanli Tarihi,\" V. V (1983, 4th ed.); V. VI (1976, 2nd ed.);\nV. VII (1977, 2nd ed.); V. VIII (1983, 2nd ed.) Ankara.\nKurat, Y. T.; \"Osmanli Imparatorlugu'nun Paylasilmasi,\" (Ankara, 1976).\nOrel, S.\/S. Yuca; \"Ermenilerce Talat Pasa'ya Atfedilen Telgraflarin\nIcyuzu,\" (Ankara, 1983). [Also in English translation.]\nAhmad, F.; \"The Young Turks: The Committee of Union and Progress in\nTurkish Politics,\" (Oxford, 1969).\n\n\nDuring the First World War and the ensuing years - 1914-1920, \nthe Armenian Dictatorship through a premeditated and systematic \ngenocide, tried to complete its centuries-old policy of \nannihilation against the Turks and Kurds by savagely murdering \n2.5 million Muslims and deporting the rest from their 1,000 year \nhomeland.\n\nThe attempt at genocide is justly regarded as the first instance\nof Genocide in the 20th Century acted upon an entire people.\nThis event is incontrovertibly proven by historians, government\nand international political leaders, such as U.S. Ambassador Mark \nBristol, William Langer, Ambassador Layard, James Barton, Stanford \nShaw, Arthur Chester, John Dewey, Robert Dunn, Papazian, Nalbandian, \nOhanus Appressian, Jorge Blanco Villalta, General Nikolayef, General \nBolkovitinof, General Prjevalski, General Odiselidze, Meguerditche, \nKazimir, Motayef, Twerdokhlebof, General Hamelin, Rawlinson, Avetis\nAharonian, Dr. Stephan Eshnanie, Varandian, General Bronsart, Arfa,\nDr. Hamlin, Boghos Nubar, Sarkis Atamian, Katchaznouni, Rachel \nBortnick, Halide Edip, McCarthy, W. B. Allen, Paul Muratoff and many \nothers.\n\nJ. C. Hurewitz, Professor of Government Emeritus, Former Director of\nthe Middle East Institute (1971-1984), Columbia University.\n\nBernard Lewis, Cleveland E. Dodge Professor of Near Eastern History,\nPrinceton University.\n\nHalil Inalcik, University Professor of Ottoman History & Member of\nthe American Academy of Arts & Sciences, University of Chicago.\n\nPeter Golden, Professor of History, Rutgers University, Newark.\n\nStanford Shaw, Professor of History, University of California at\nLos Angeles.\n\nThomas Naff, Professor of History & Director, Middle East Research\nInstitute, University of Pennsylvania.\n\nRonald Jennings, Associate Professor of History & Asian Studies,\nUniversity of Illinois.\n\nHoward Reed, Professor of History, University of Connecticut.\n\nDankwart Rustow, Distinguished University Professor of Political\nScience, City University Graduate School, New York.\n\nJohn Woods, Associate Professor of Middle Eastern History, \nUniversity of Chicago.\n\nJohn Masson Smith, Jr., Professor of History, University of\nCalifornia at Berkeley.\n\nAlan Fisher, Professor of History, Michigan State University.\n\nAvigdor Levy, Professor of History, Brandeis University.\n\nAndreas G. E. Bodrogligetti, Professor of History, University of California\nat Los Angeles.\n\nKathleen Burrill, Associate Professor of Turkish Studies, Columbia University.\n\nRoderic Davison, Professor of History, George Washington University.\n\nWalter Denny, Professor of History, University of Massachusetts.\n\nCaesar Farah, Professor of History, University of Minnesota.\n\nTom Goodrich, Professor of History, Indiana University of Pennsylvania.\n\nTibor Halasi-Kun, Professor Emeritus of Turkish Studies, Columbia University.\n\nJustin McCarthy, Professor of History, University of Louisville.\n\nJon Mandaville, Professor of History, Portland State University (Oregon).\n\nRobert Olson, Professor of History, University of Kentucky.\n\nMadeline Zilfi, Professor of History, University of Maryland.\n\nJames Stewart-Robinson, Professor of Turkish Studies, University of Michigan.\n\n.......so the list goes on and on and on.....\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nMany cars sold here in Finland are *small* and *cheap* cars (at least when\ncompared to other cars --- note that we have over 120 % car tax).\n\nAnd you couldn't expect a good auto mated to a 1.3 L engine?","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nOK.  And you regularly ride your bike to within 2% of it's maximum capability?\n(Note any idiot can go flat out on a bike - most of them do.)\n\nAnyway, efficient at what?  A shaft drive is a much more efficient solid (erect) lump\nof metal than a floppy (flaccid, unsatisfying) chain.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I recall that Ehman 'died'...\n\nCan anyone suggest what the problem is when the picture jumps\nabout an inch any direction?\n\nTwo page monchrome monitor connected to Newlife accelerator and \nvideo board in an SE... At the end of the work day, several hours\nwith power on, the picture will occasionally jitter a couple of times\nand then remain calm for a few minutes. Then it does more shaking...\n\nThe environment around the computer appears to be stable. Nothing\nnewly introduced near the computer. \n\nAny ideas? Please e-mail to carsona@sfu.ca or reply here.\n\nAlso... Has anyone used Ehman two page with Powerbook video? What\nwas required? Just a cable adapter?\n\nThanks for any help!\n\nDale\ncarsona@sfu.ca","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"If some kind person has access to a mathematical package such as Mathematica,\nMaple,... I would like to ask you for the solution to the following problem.\nI sometimes have algebra problems like this where I would like a simplified\nsymbolic solution. Is there a FTP-able package out there that can handle such\nbeasts?\n\n    I would like to solve the following ray - Bezier patch intersection\n    for the scalar constant t in:\n\n        P                    + t * V                =  Q(u,w)\n         (origin point in 3D)       (dir vector 3D)\n\n    in terms of only:\n       \n          P            V            P                     and various scalars\n           (origin) ,   (dir 3D) ,   (i,j) 0 <= i,j <= 3\n\n    where:\n\n                            T\n    Q(u,w) = [U] [N] [B] [M]  [W]\n\n\n\n               n  n-1  n-2   n-3\n      [U] = [ u  u    u     u ....     u  1 ]      ( 0.0 <= u <= 1.0 )\n               3  2\n          = [ u  u  u 1 ]    ( in my particular case )\n\n\n               n  n-1  n-2   n-3             T\n      [W] = [ w  w    w     w ....     w  1 ]      ( 0.0 <= w <= 1.0 )\n\n               3  2      T\n          = [ w  w  w 1 ]    ( in my particular case )\n\n\n                   T\n      [ N ] = [ M ]   =  | -1  3 -3  1 |     ( for my particular case )\n                         |  3 -6  3  0 |\n                         | -3  3  0  0 |\n                         |  1  0  0  0 |\n\n\n      [ B ] =  | P       P       P       P      | (control points in 3D space)\n               |  (0,0)   (0,1)   (0,2)   (0,3) |\n               |                                |\n               | P       P       P       P      |\n               |  (1,0)   (1,1)   (1,2)   (1,3) |\n               |                                |\n               | P       P       P       P      |\n               |  (2,0)   (2,1)   (2,2)   (2,3) |\n               |                                |\n               | P       P       P       P      |\n               |  (3,0)   (3,1)   (3,2)   (3,3) |\n\n\n\n                                        Thanx,","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"What is the actual clock speed of a Centris 610?\n20 MHZ or 25 MHZ\n\nThanks in advance...\n\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThere is one point I'd like to make, that most people seem to have forgotten.\nThat is that one of the underlining principles in the Constitution is a DISTRUST\nof governmental authority and control. All those \"checks & balances\" is because\nthey realize that you should distrust those in power. What everyone seems to have\nforgotten as well is the original reason that the Bill of Rights guaranteed the\nright to bear arms. It's inclusion was not to allow you to protect yourself\nagainst other citizens, but to prevent the government from taking away your only\nmeans of protecting yourself from an armed and aggressive government. Its hard to\noppress your citizenry when its armed against you.\n\nI am not a fanatic, I'm a retired Naval officer. Because I have spent so much\ntime defending it, perhaps I understand its \"purpose\" as well as its \"plan\".","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nI can't believe sh*t like this gets any attention in this group during\nthe playoffs.\n\nAli,you're a blabbering moron. At least you could've waited 'till\nthe end of the playoffs to start your dumb letter campaign.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nSounds to me like you'd want a star for the ground plane.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"  You've got it. What you regard as a right, someone else will regard\nas a privilege. Followups to some generic ethics and morality\nnewsgroup ....","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Hi\n\nDoes anyone know of a direct way to print an image of an .xbm file.\n\nPlease reply directly and I'll post a summary.\n\n---------------------------------------------------------------------\nAny opinion presented here is my own, and does not reflect the policy\nof my employer, NASA, or the Ames Research Center.\n\nRoger Smith\nSterling Software at\nNASA-Ames Research Center\nrsmith@proteus.arc.nasa.gov","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\tWhen did the BATF say this? Everything I've seen from the BATF,\n\tfrom the official version to the dissident statements of BATF\n\tofficers who conducted the raid claims that the Davidians were\n\tshooting at the agents long before they were within grenade \n\trange. \n\n\tAlso, if the warrant is sealed, how do we know it was a 'no-knock'?  \n\n                  _____  _____\n                  \\\\\\\\\\\\\/ ___\/___________________\n  Mitchell S Todd  \\\\\\\\\/ \/                 _____\/__________________________\n________________    \\\\\/ \/ mst4298@zeus._____\/.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'_'_'_\/\n\\_____        \\__    \/ \/ tamu.edu  _____\/.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'_'_\/\n    \\__________\\__  \/ \/        _____\/_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_\/\n                \\_ \/ \/__________\/\n                 \\\/____\/\\\\\\\\\\\\\n \t\t\t \\\\\\\\\\\\","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
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{"text":": \n: It would seem that a society with a \"failed\" government would be an ideal\n: setting for libertarian ideals to be implemented.  Now why do you suppose\n: that never seems to occur?...\n \nAdvances in freedom have been made in the past.  The \"divine right of\nking\" concept was questioned at one time and may have used the same\nargument, that it hadn't come about before.  But our ancestors had the\ncourage to throw off the old system that said that one man ruling many\nwas necessary to have a decent, wholesome society.  In the 1800s the \nconcept of slavery was questioned.  Our ancestors had the courage to\nquestion a practice that had existed for thousands of years.  Was\nthe idea that one man owning another necessary to have a decent, \nwholesome society?  Now libertarians question the necessity of\nmajoritarianism.  Is it necessary that many people rule over many\nothers to have a decent, wholesome society?","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Hello there,\n\nI am looking for Sim City for PC (new\/used). Please make your offer to\ncchu@udel.edu. Thanks !\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nHow can you be sure the two visitors were really government agents?\n:-)\n\n--John","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I was reading a review of the Centris 610 in this \nmonths MacWorld and the reviewer said that for \n$4 you could make an adjustment on the clock speed\nof the chip and change it from 20mhz to 25mhz.  I \nhaven't heard of this before, and I don't think that\nthis is the 040 chip replacement (with fpu) that I have\nseen so much talk about.  Anyone have any ideas?\ncwera@du.edu\n\n\n \n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"The AIAA San Gabriel Valley Section is sponsoring the following lecture\non Mars exploration at the Jet Propulsion Lab.  Admission is free and open to\nthe public.\n\n                           The Next Frontier:\n                    The Challenge of Mars Exploration\n\n                      DATE:     May 6, 1993\n                      TIME:     6:00PM - 8:30 PM\n                      LOCATION: Von Karman Auditorium\n                                Jet Propulsion Lab\n                                4800 Oak Grove Drive\n                                Pasadena, California\n\n     The following five speakers will be featured:\n\n              A Science Fiction Perspective\n              Tom McDonaugh\n              Science Fiction Writer\n\n               Mars Observer\n               Dr. Arden Albee\n               Project Scientist, Mars Observer - JPL\n\n               Mars '94\n               Dr. Arthur L. Lane\n               Instrument Manager, Mars '94 - JPL\n\n               Mars Environmental Survey (MESUR)\n               Richard Cook\n               Mission Designer - JPL\n\n               Manned Mission to Mars\n               Dr. Robert Zubrin\n               Senior Engineer, Martin Marietta Astronautics","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n: Now for those who have read this far - \n\n: \tWhy did it rev at idle like that?  Is water in the fuel an\n: acceptable reaason or were they having me on?\n\nSound like the pilot circuit was say lean\/clogged.  I don't think\nwater would cause a problem like this, but?\n\n: \tApparently the oil pump is doing its job, and there was plenty\n: of oil.  Why did it seize?\n\nSee above.  Were you by chance coasting when it stuck?  On a two stroke\nyou only have (substantial) lubrication when you are giving the bike gas.\nIf it was lean on the pilot, that's why it stuck.\n\n: Oh, BTW - THe motor had been rebuilt just before I left Adelaide, so had\n: done about 1600 miles when it blew.  It was rebuilt because it had been\n: seized at some time before we got it, and it looked like that seizure\n: had happened at low mileage, because there were still hone marks in the\n: bore.\n\n: The rebuild we did consisted of a total tear down, new piston, rings,\n: small end bearing, and new gearbox bearings.  Big end and rod judged\n: OK.\n\n\n: Any ideas folks?\n\nYou mentioned an aftermarket carb?  (I deleted the text)  Looks like \n(to me) that's where your problem is.\n\n:      Zebee Johnstone  DoD #605   | You don't own an Italian motorcycle \n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\nDoes anyone know where I can get the developer notes for the new Mac models\n(like IIvx, LC III, Centris)?\n\nThank's for any information.  Please reply by email.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\"The Forever War\", one of my favorite SciFi books, had a passage devoted to \nbreathing fluids. The idea was to protect people from the high accelerations \nrequired for interstellar travel by emersing the passengers in dry-cleaning \nfluid saturated with oxygen. Plenty of very imaginative ideas is this book.\nI would certainly recommend it (won the Hugo and the Nebula awards).","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I would like to sell my camcorder. I havent used it much and I need the\nmoney.\n\nPanasonic PV-17 VHS-C Palmcorder\n\n-High Speed Shutter\n-Flying Erasr Head\n-8:1 Power Zoom\n-Digital Autp Tracking\n-Audio\/Video Dubbing\n-Auto Tracking\n-Digital Automatic Focus\n-Book Mark Search\n-Record Review\n-Automatic White Balance\n-CCD Image Sensor\n-HQ System\n\nIncludes:\n-Rechargeable battery\n-Battery charger\n-VHS PlayPak adapter\n-4 Compact video cassettes\n-All original docs, cables, box, etc.\n\nI got it new in Sept. '92 and used it a total of about 20-25 times.\nThe battery has been charged less than 5 times. This thing is in\nbrand-new condition.\n\nI am asking $550. Make me an offer.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I heard the other day that Rush has gotten together with Tammy Faye Baker.\n  They were crawling in bed the other night and Rush's feet brushed up against\n  Tammy's legs.  \"God! your feet are cold\" she said.  Rush looked back at here\n  and said, \"Tammy honey, I told you when we're alone you can just call me\n  Rush.\"  \n\n\n  Ba dump Bump!  pishhhhh","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Found this in soc.culture.pakistan\nMight be of interest..... am posting it without the permission of the original poster.\nHope he\/she doesnt mind.\n\n\nBy Lance Gay, Scripps-Howard News Service\n \nSARAJEVO, Bosnia-Herzegovina -- In this land of historic hatreds, a tiny\nJewish community is braving Serbian shells to repay a 50-year-old debt to\nMuslims who saved Jews from the Holocaust.\n \nIvica Ceresnjes, president of the Jewish Community of Sarajevo, says he\nand about 1,000 other Jews chose to remain in Sarajevo, rather than leave\nfor Israel, to keep a feeding center in the medieval old town district\nrunning.\n \nCeresnjes said that was partly in gratitude to the Muslims who hid Jews during\nthe Nazi occupation and partly to keep intact the centuries-old presence of \nJews living in Sarajevo.\n \n``Some with guns are defending Bosnia, but I fight in Bosnia by keeping \npeople alive,'' Ceresnjes said.\n \nAs a student of Balkan history, Ceresnjes said he saw this war coming and \nhad ready plans to evacuate children and the elderly. A year before the war\nerupted here last April, Ceresnjes said the Jewish center began\nstockpiling supplies, ensuring everyone had passports and arranging for\nplaces in Israel and Europe for the evacuees.\n \nThey were so well prepared, he said, that only five days after the\nshooting began the first plane left. Of about 2,000 Jews in Bosnia-\nHerzegovina, he estimates half have left. Many of those who stayed behind\nwork in Sarajevo's downtown synagogue, which has been turned into a\nwartime feeding center that has so far given away 380,000 meals.\n \nThe center, which has been shelled several times along with most of\nSarajevo, also runs a radio station, mail center and distributes food\npackages sent by Jewish organizations around the world.\n \nWhile Muslims and Jews are fighting each other in the Mideast, Jews here\nsay there's a long tradition of cooperation, inter-marriage and\ntolerance between the two communities in Sarajevo that goes back to\ncenturies of Turkish occupation.\n \nSarajevo's Jews trace their ancestry back to their expulsion from Roman\nCatholic Spain in 1492. The community numbered more than 14,000 before\nWorld War II. But only 10% survived the Holocaust -- which was carried out\nby the pro-Nazi Croatian Ustache in Yugoslavia. Many of the survivors were\nhidden by Muslim families in Mostar.\n \n\n-- \nSharon Machlis Gartenberg\nFramingham, MA  USA\ne-mail: sharon@world.std.com\n\n\n----------------------------------------\nZafar.\n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nOr just use the URT tool: rastorle.\n\n\nYes, both it and the newer xli can.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\tYeah, maybe that is more likely.  But from the Mariners-Tigers \nseries, it seems like every time there are base runners, the pitchers \nseem to purposely pitch around him or give him a free pass.  The \nfunny thing was that Griffey was struggling up until the last game of the\nfour game series if I remember correctly.\n\n- Chung Yang","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"If anyone would like to get rid of their SegaCD for software please get\nin touch. Ive got loads of SNES and Genesis\/MegaDrive software Id like\nto trade for a SegaCD or even partially (i.e. Ill also pay some $).\n\nLet me know if you are interested.\n\nCheers\nJonathan\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"used\nafter\nNanao's so I\ncontrast is\nSS2 color\nas good,\nrunning across.\nas well\nway the 5FG\n\nI believe PC mag said 5FGE can't do 1280x1024.\n\n\ntso@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu \n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nNo one has mentioned violence other than you, Mr. Han. I believe you\nare imagining things.\n\n--\nPerry Metzger\t\tpmetzger@shearson.com","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"    >>You should face the facts. Love Canal was not, and is not, an\n    >>environmental disaster, nor even a problem.\n    >>\n    >>Nor is Times Beach and TMI and acid rain killing trees and\n    >>....\n    >>\n    >Not a problem? Would you move to Three Mile Island? I would\n    >imagine there is some cheap property available!\n\nNo, because I don't like the weather back East. However, it would bother me\nnot one bit to live in an equivalent area here. By the way, do you KNOW what\nthe extra exposure to radiation from TMI was?\n\n    >The naturally occurring catastrophic events [disasters] that\n    >destroy property (ie: hurricanes, tornados, earthquakes) do\n    >not usually leave toxic wastes that prevent people from\n    >re-building their lives there. The man-made disasters (oil\n    >spills, toxic dumping, radioactive waste dispersions) cause\n    >death and make an area unliveable far beyond the initial\n    >event.\n\nO.K., in the U.S., tell me about some of these deaths and some of these\nunliveable areas. Oh, and if you manage to find some of these unliveable\nareas, tell me what percentage of the total US land area they are.\n(Hint - the total waste produced by all nuclear reactors in the US can be\nsafely stored in the area of three footbal fields.)\n\n\n-- \nThere are actually people that STILL believe Love Canal was some kind of\nenvironmental disaster. Weird, eh?","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"ctwomey@vms.eurokom.ie (Colum Twomey) comments:\n\n\nCasady & Greene seems to be notoriously slow about responding, as\nI've heard from others who have contacted them.  They may not reply\nvia fax, but via snail mail.  Give them time, or contact them again.\n\nRhia\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"My son is considering the purchase of a 71 MGB, which has been substantially\nrestored.  The odometer has rolled over, but we can't be sure of the actual\nmileage.  The engine and drive train apparently weren't touched in the\nrestoration, except for a new carb and a few hoses.  He plans to do vacuum and\ncompression checks to see what they might tell us about the engine.  The body\nand undercarriage have no visible rust, the interior is new, as are tires,\nfront brakes (not sure about the back), battery, bumpers and other misc parts.\nThe paint is checked in a few places, and scuffed here and there, allegedly by\na wind-blown car cover.  It seemed to handle OK, except for soft front shocks.\nQuestions:\n\nAre there problem areas common to MGBs we should check out?\n\nThe brakes seem soft and rather ineffective; what should we expect in the way\nof braking action?\n\nIt seemed to be \"doggy\" when accelerating from a stop.  What should we expect\nit to do, given the 4-cylinder engine?\n\nThe top is in place, but will not reach a number of the snaps.  The weather\nwas cold.  Should the vinyl stretch and fit when it warms up, or is it forever\nshrunk?\n\nIs it normal for the wire wheels to be painted, or are they usually chromed?\n\nGiven this rather limited description, what would be a reasonable price?\n\nGee, this turned out to be a little long--sorry.  While my brother once owned\nan XK120 Jag (what a car!) we're obviously not into sports cars.  Any help with\nthese questions, or suggestions on other things to investigate would surely be\nappreciated.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nThey are and they have.\n\nDavid\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n    Yes.  There are many methods of rendering, raytracing is one of them.\nYou didn't say what you mean by rendering, so I won't guess.  Methods of\nrendering include:\n\n        o  Pencil and graph paper, doing the math by hand\n\n        o  Wireframe rendering of the 2D projection\n\n        o  Hidden line rendering\n\n        o  Scanline rendering using:\n            - Painter's algorithm.\n            - BSP trees.\n            - Z buffer\n            - Other\n\n        o  Raytracing\n\n        o  Radiosity\n\n        o  Holographic projection to film\n\n        o  Combination of any of the above","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nDirection-finding and directional monitoring receivers. Can you say \"little\nblack bakery truck\"?\n\n:-)\n\nDavid\n\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"The Babe and The Pride of the Yankees offer very different renditions of\nthe sotry about Ruth and Gherig hitting home runs for the boy in the\nhospital.  Can some historian out there explain \"history's\" version of the\nstory.  \n\nI wouldn't put is past either (or both) of the movies to season the truth\nwith a little extra spice.\n\nAny other comments as to inaccuracies in these two movies?\n\n\n\n------------------------------\n\nEric A. W. Behrens\nbehrens@cc.swarthmore.edu\n\n\n\"I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to keep playing baseball.\"  ","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"For sale : Red Honda Scooter (150cc)\n\nNeed m\/c license\nMax speed - 63 mph\nGas mileage - 74 mpg\nMax wt - 250 lbs\nOdo. reading - 3000 miles\n  - it has only been out of the factory for 3 years\n  - very low mileage\nOriginal Owner - all paperwork available\nVery thorough tune-ups quarterly\nYear - 1986\nBody - Not a scratch, garaged and covered always\nCover and 2 helmets included\nGood for student or light commuter or for fun :)\n$1300 or best offer\n\ne-mail or call in evenings \nSusan Hodapp\n(919)833-8431","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"This sounds like a good question, the hardware is specific to him, but\nin general please respond to him via news and not e-mail.  There probably\nare alot of people wanting to read the replies, including myself.\nmike\npackard@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"*** On 04-20-93  21:25, Larry Henson had the unmitigated gall to say this:\n\n LH> Hello, I am trying to hook an Apple Imagewriter to my IBM Clone.\n LH> I seem to have a problem configuring my lpt port to accept this.  How\n LH> can you adjust baud, parity, etc. to fit the system?  I tried MODE, but\n LH> it did not work.  If anyone can help, post of e-mail.  Thanx.\n\nLPT ports don't recognize baud, parity, etc. settings.  You might be tring\nto connect a serial printer to a parallel port.  Try this: attach the serial\nport of the printer to a serial port on the PC.  Use the mode command to set\nthe COM port settings.  Try\n\nC>MODE COM1,9600,N,8,1\n\nto set the port parameters.  Then use the MODE command to redirect the\nprinter port LPT1 like this:\n\nC>MODE LPT1=COM1\n\nThis should work.  Good luck!\n\n... Time flies like an arrow.  Fruit flies like a banana.\n--- Blue Wave\/QWK v2.10\n                ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":": The real question here in my opinion is what Motorola processors running system\n: 7 on a MAC are comparable to what Intel processors running Windows on a PC?  I\n[stuff deleted]\n: -David\n--\nEven better than that...  how does a 68000-based Amiga 2000 perform in \ndaily tasks compared to my 68030-based IIci.\n\nAnswer, except in a very few cases, I get my butt kicked by the Amiga.\nSure there are other considerations, but it goes to show you how\nproper design from the beginning (in hardware and software) can give\nyou great returns.  [as well as showing you that if you don't have a \nmarketing department to speak of, no one will care how good your system is]\n\nI'm still happy with my ci, but I don't understand why the performance is\nso bad (comparatively).  They could have done multi-tasking _properly_.\nThey could have done everthing else better -- but apple didn't.\n(of course DOS 6 and windows 3.1 are nothin to write home about either!!)\n\nOh well, y'all got $2.00 worth for the price of $0.02\n\n~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=\n  Peter Pundy\n\n  Email: 2545500@jeff-lab.queensu.ca","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n        What if we remove one zeron and make it \"the genocide of two hundred\n        thousands Muslims in Bosnia..\", would that make it any better..?\n        And how about the 2,000,000 Muslims who were driven and continue to\n        be driven out of their homes..? is that \"utterly ridiculous claim\"?\n        And how about the rapes (over 60,000 women) and the concentration \n        camps..? The us delegation which visited them reported yesterday\n        on CNN that the serbs are giving the muslims detainees 4 biscuits\n        and a cup of water a day..!!??\n        That sure also sounds like an \"utterly ridiculous claim\".!\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nWell, we're not.  Which goes to prove you still don't understand what\nwe're saying here.\n\n\nI've lived through the bombing of Cambodia; My Lai; inflated body counts\nin VietNam; the funding of Noreiga; Watergate; Contragate; Chappaquiddick;\nKent State; domestic spying by the CIA; Edwin Meese's Pornography \nCommission; the War on Drugs; civil seizure; the MOVE disaster; the LA \ndisaster; and now Waco.\n\nDo you really believe that government always does what is right?\n\n\nWatch the news for the next couple of months.  Watch how this whole\ngovernment-initiated debacle turns into shouting for \"more gun control.\"\nIt's already started.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nSorry, but I'd have to differ.  The Canadian-bashing wrt to the health \ninsurance system is largely with little evidence or prompting.  Having\nkept up with this debate on the net for some months, just about all the\ncriticism of the Canadian system has misquoted or misinterpreted even\nthe anti-Canadian propaganda put out by the American insurance industry\nand the AMA.  \n\nIn a few cases, such as Mr. Case, the critiques are well-reasoned and\nworthy of response.  Most others are misinformed, illogical,\nor just plain dumb.  I don't think the same can be said of the \"American\nproponents\" of the Canadian system, much less of the Canadian proponents.\n\njsh","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nI've tried it, and so has one friend of mine.  No known side effects or\nrisks.  It didn't seem to work for us, but several studies now have \nsuggested it does work for many people, so I think it's worth a try.\n\nYou can find it in capsule form at health food stores.  Up to six capsules\na day was recommended, if I remember correctly.  It can also be prepared \nas a tea.\n\nGood luck,","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nI know that \"must\" is a verb in some languages.   I'm complaining\nabout the assertion containing the word must.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nIn Massachusetts, you will likely be arrested for murder, but\nif you convince the cops\/DA that you used lethal force because\nof threat of death or serious bodily harm, then the charges\nwould probably be dropped.  If you run away and are later caught,\nthen you will have a much harder time convincing cops\/judge\/jury\nof your innocence.  Going \"on the lam\" is seen as an indication\nof guilt by a lot of people.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Mike Schmidt's 500th:  Not only a milestone, but also a 9th inning game-\nwinner.\n                           -John\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\tRecently, I heard the Red Sox on WROL a Spanish-speaking radio station.\nI thought it was so unreal. The Red Sox in Spanish? Anyway, I want to find\nout how widespread this is? Being a NY native, I know the scMets are on in\nSpanish but not the Yankmes. I wuold think that LA,SD,Texas and Fla are on\nin Spanish. Are there any Spanish-speaking networks or is this a local\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":": Actually I am entering vet school next year, but the question is \n: relevant for med students too.\n\n: Memorizing large amounts has never been my strong point academically.\n: Since this is a major portion of medical education -- anatomy, \n: histology, pathology, pharmacology, are for the most part mass \n: memorization -- I am a little concerned.  As I am sure most \n: med students are.\n\n: Can anyone suggest techniques for this type of memorization?  I \n: have had reasonable success with nemonics and memory tricks like\n: thinking up little stories to associate unrelated things.  But I have\n: never applied them to large amounts of \"data\".\n\n: Has anyone had luck with any particular books, memory systems, or\n: cheap software?   \n\n: Can you suggest any helpful organizational techniques?  Being an\n: older student who returned to school this year, organization (another\n: one of my weak points) has been a major help to my success.\n\n: Please no griping about how all you have to do is \"learn\" the material\n: conceptually.  I have no problem with that, it is one of my strong \n: points.  But you can't get around the fact that much of medicine is\n: rote memorization.  \n\n: Thanks for your help.\nThe only suggestion i can think of off the top of my head is get a large\nsupply of index cards and memorize small amounts of info at a time, making\nflash cards and quesitons. Everytime i get a question wrong I always\nmanage to get the damn thing right the next time \n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"FOR SALE:\n\nAT&T Dataport Internal 14.4K Fax\/Modem\n\nThe modem is an internal AT\/(E)ISA 8-bit card (just a little longer\nthan a half-card).  It has v.32bis for 14.4Kbps data \/ 9600 bps fax,\nv.42, v.42bis, and MNP5 for error-correction and data compression, so\nyou can get error-free links up to 57,600 bps on a conventional phone\nline.  They will \"fall back\" to any speed (down to 1200bps) and even\ndisable compression and error-correction if necessary in order to\nconnect with slower and older modems.\n\nIt has a 16550 buffered UART for better compatibility with\nmulti-tasking operating systems (Windows, OS\/2, Unix, etc).\n\nThey use a patented technology called Optical Line Interface (OLI)\nwhich reduces noise generated by the modem to assure the fastest and\ncleanest connection possible.\n\nThese modems come with a lifetime warranty and free lifetime tech\nsupport (and the call is free, too) from AT&T.\n\nThey also include the lovely and talented QuickLink II for DOS and the\nNEW QuickLink II for Windows communications and fax software which\nwill let you conveniently sent faxes from any DOS or Windows\napplication just by printing.  The Windows version will send faxes of\nany font and can include graphics, etc.  The DOS version can fax\ngraphics and a limited set of fonts (I believe that there are 5 or so,\nas well as any HP Laser II resident fonts).\n\nI'm asking $210.00 for this modem (plus Utah tax).  This is at or\nbelow the prices of any other (reputable) manufacturer of an\nequivalent modem (including Zoom, US Robotics, etc).  And, it is\nbacked by a company that will never go away.\n\nThis price will include delivery if you live within 20 miles of\ndowntown SLC.  I can also arrange shipping, or you can stop by my home\nto pick it up.  (If you're concerned about installing an internal\nmodem, let me know and we can discuss an arrangement for including\ninstallation.)\n\nIf you're interested, please let me know.  This is an excellent modem\nat an excellent price (they normally list for ~$500 and retail for\nabout ~$300).  I installed one of these last week and it is very nice.\n\nIf you have questions about this, AT&T has an info number at \n(800) 554-4996, or you can email me and I will attemp to answer them.\n\nThe modem will go to the highest bidder I get within the next week.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n(sic) Oh, you're really bright. As if nobody would have understood it was a\ntypo.\n\nSeveral parents with children who either had at one time or currently were\ninside the compound made the aforementioned charges. One parent actually\nspoke about said charges (in reference to his 13-year old daughter) WITH\nKoresh on the phone.\n\nYou missed my point entirely.\n\n\nSince you're unable to formulate a cogent response, you make a lame joke.\n\n\nAnti-social. Normally meaning a response against societal norms. Stealing\nis sociopathic behavior. It's not an oxymoron to have a GROUP of\nSOCIOPATHS. I guess you're NOT a psychologist. Oh well...\n\n\nMaybe YOU should get an education, my man.\n\n\nWhy won't some assholes use a sig so I can send them mail instead of\nwasting bandwidth?\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nThat probably is not true.  But today it may not be much better for\nthe gay population in general.\n\n\nWhere are all of these studies?  You have cited a few, and my research\nshows that there are not that many.  Do Not Confuse a survey as a\nstudy, there is a big difference.  Asking people outside of a polling\nbooth and adding up numbers is NOT a study.\n\n\nBut this is what you base most of your conclusion upon. Warm\nfuzzy feelings.\n\nMaybe he has stated an educated opinion based upon the studies\nthat involve genetics and psychological influence.  There are a\nlot of those types of studies, aren't there?  Try reading some.\n\nThis is a crap statement and comparison.  Many people use this sad\nand stupid argument.  There is not relationship between alcoholics\nand people's sexual orientation- except that some may find what it\nreally is when they are drunk (repressed inhibition released).\n\nNonsense- this simply is not true.  I suppose it is a waste of time\nto try and tell you to understand what a study presents.  Most of\nwhat you cite does not extrapolate anything, you do.\n\n\nIf people in general would stop using irrational position to oppress\nother's and leave our private lives to ourselves, I would have no\nsupport for laws and rules to protect people form this.  But we need\nonly look at post such as yours to see that they lack rational\nthought and intelligent outlooks.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n what is the likely hood of conception if sperm is deposited just outside\nthe vagina?  ie.  __% chance.\n -------------------------------------------------------------------------\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"From: jbrown@batman.bmd.trw.com\n\nThere are many indications that would have taken place had Saddam\nbeen wanting or planning on going into Saudi Arabia.  There were\nnone.  This has been openly stated by ex-Pentagon analysts.  Pull.\n\nFrom: jbrown@batman.bmd.trw.com\n\nActually, reports from other mid-east countries showed that Hussein\nwas ready to make concessions due to the sanctions.  We just didn't want\nhim to - we wanted to crush him, as well as battle-test all these high\ntech toys we've built over the years.\n\nFrom: jbrown@batman.bmd.trw.com\n\nWe're also hypocrites of the first magnitude.  Obviously, we don't give\na shit about freedom and democracy.  All we care about is our oil.  Oh,\nand the excuse, now that the Soviets are gone from the board, to keep\na sizable military presence in the gulf region.  Care to make bets about\nwhen ALL our troops will come home?\n\nBasically, Saddam was OK with us.  He was a killer, who tortured his\nown people, used gas on them, and other horrors - he was a brutal\ndictator, but he was OUR brutal dictator.  Once he said \"fuck you\" to\nthe US, he became the next Hitler.  The same for Noriega.  He was a\nbastard, but he was OUR bastard...until he changed his mind and went\nhis own way.  Then we had to get rid of him.\n\n\n\nDavid Hunt - Graduate Slave |     My mind is my own.      | Towards both a\nMechanical Engineering      | So are my ideas & opinions. | Palestinian and\nCarnegie Mellon University  | <<<Use Golden Rule v2.0>>>  | Jewish homeland!\n====T=H=E=R=E===I=S===N=O===G=O=D=========T=H=E=R=E===I=S===N=O===G=O=D=====\nEmail:  bluelobster+@cmu.edu    Working towards my \"Piled Higher and Deeper\"","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"The Duo's can drive Apple's 16\" monitor at 832x624 resolution and\n256 colors, I think. What non-Apple 16-17\" monitors can also be\nused? Would a multisync NEC-5FG work as well at the same resolution?\nWhat are the outstanding points of the Apple monitor when compared\nwith these other monitors?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"HI,\n that might look like a dull request, but I have been following this newgroup\nfor a couple of weeks and It didn't help me make my mind.\n\n  I bought a new 486 machine not long ago after being disconnected from the\npc world for a while (I have been running on an xt 5MHz till last january!!).\nThe machine I bought came equipped with a ATI VGA XL 24 graphic card. It\ngives a very nice picture and the  Windows drivers are pretty stable. The only\nproblem is that it is quite slow.\n\nI would like to go for a faster card (not in the 400$ range). I saw a lot\nof comments on many products over the last weeks, but didn't get an overall\npicture clear enough to make a choice. My question is : Could somebody\ndirect me to a source of information which would help me in my quest.\nI would like to get information about :\n     - the refresh rates the various cards provide;\n     - quality of windows drivers;\n     - standard vga performance (non-Windows stuff).\n\nDirect me to a magazine article or something like that (I got winvid.zip \ninfo, but it is not enough). If you have an ISA card you are really satisfied\nwith it,  let me know.\n\tIf this information is of any use, here is my system configuration:\n\t- Fujikama 486 33MHz ISA system (Contaq motherboard)\n\t- monitor DARIUS 14\" non-interlaced multisync (up to 1024X768) \n                               (can reach 70kHz horizontally)  \n\nI would also like to know if it is a standard for video drivers to allow\nscreen dimensioning and screen positioning by writing on the EPROM of the\ngraphic card. This is the case with my ATI card and it is very convenient\nwhen changing graphics mode since my monitor is not intelligent \nenough to record settings.\n\nMerci a l'avance for any information you would be kind enough to provide me,","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"********NOTE: FOLLOWUPS go to alt.atheism,talk.religion.misc,talk.origins!\n\n[deleted]\n\nIf you say X statement and give it the authority of fact, I will respond\nby asking you why. You aren't obligated to say anything, but if your\nintent is to convince me that X statement is true, then yes, the burden\nof proof is upon you. \n\nIf you are merely giving testimony to your beliefs, then you are an egotist.\nWhy would I care?\n\nTo surmise, the burden of proof is upon you if you wish us to believe that\nwhat you say is true.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"discussing the fact that there were only 16 players who had ever hit 200  \nhomeruns and stolen 200 bases in their career (while HoJo was batting).   \nAnyone have a list?  Not as easy as it sounds to come up with all of them.   \nI couldn't.  Mays, Mantle, Aaron, Henderson, Morgan, Bonds (Dad), ???   \nFrank Robinson?  Molitor?  Yount?  Guessing now.  I'd be interested to see  \nthe whole list.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\nGee, I'd FORGOTTEN about THIS NUT.\n\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n \n    This can be turned around.  The Austrians who should feel guilty about\n their actions during WWII, but don't, justify their anti-semetism by making\n every Israeli action into an atrocity.  The Austrians, Germans and other\n Europeans have extensive trading relations with the Arab block; being \n pro-Arab is good for business.  I don't think that ethics has a thing to\n do about it.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"What I'd like to see is the more generic N-dimensional widget set.\nI realize, that there wouldn't be a whole shitload of people\nwho'd want more than 3, but why stop?\n\nAll I need is a Widget with up to N viewports showing me different\n3-D or 2-D slices of my stuff.\n\nalter,\npat\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
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{"text":"## Don't forget that 25% had 20 or more partners....\n#\n#Not surprising.  Remember, that study includes homosexuals as well.\n\nErr, earth to Clayton, you posted this to show that 2% were\nhomosexual. So if we assume EVERY homosexual was promiscious, that\nleads us to conclude that 23 percent of heterosexuals are promiscious.\nAnd that first assumtion is a bad one.\n\nClayton, it *IS* suprising from the claims you are making.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I was one of the unfortunate people to run into this guy.  I sent him\n$30 cash (Stupid, I know) for 4 CDs.  That was the last I heard of him.\n\nI know there were some other people ripped off by this guy.  Has there been\nany advances in tracking him down?","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"The other week I saw a TV program about the american space industry and NASA.\nIt said that in the 60's they developed a rocket that used ions or nuclear\nparticles for propolsion.\nThe government however, didn't give them $1billion for the developement\nof a full scale rocket.\nDid anybody see this program?\nIf not, has anybody heard of the particle propolsion system?\n\nThanx. 8-)","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n[stuff deleted]\n\n                                         ^^^\n\t\t\t\tI think you mean HCI here.\n\n\n\n[snip]\n\n\n\t\t\t\tJoe","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nThe April 1993 edition of MIX Magazine carries a story on 3DO which\nincludes pictures of the unit, a schematic of what's inside and some\nindication from the people at 3DO as to where they intend to go and in\nwhat stages. (MIX is a trade rag aimed at the professional sound\nengineering community.)\n\nThe schematic shows a central DMA Engine connecting and mediating between\ntwo Graphics Animation processors (32 bit bus), a 32-bit RISC processor\nwith math co-processor, Video Decomp module, a control port, an expansion\nport (where 3DO hangs its double-fast CD player), 1Mb DRAM, an optional\nvideo port (for editing video) and on the outbound side 1MB VRAM to Video\nProcessor to TV chain parallel with a DSP to sound chain. \n\nThey promise Red Book CD-quality audio, full 30 fps video and a future\nconnection path to your PC via a PC expansion card.\n\nI am not informed enough to have an opinion about the various means and\nmethods discussed here. The article, written by Philip De Lancie, does\ncover the other machines mentioned in this thread.  I come from the PC\nTCP\/IP world and see a tremendous potential for bringing connectedness to\nthe educated consumer; 3DO seems to have the right business partners to\nmake this happen. \n\nHope this helps.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I have a SPARC-2 with 2 CGSIX cards in it.  I'd like\nto have the R5 server recognize the second card.\n\n\nI mknod created a \/dev\/cgsix1 device, but when I brought up the\nserver, the second device was ignored.  \n\nHow do I setup the second card?\n\n\nNote:  If I borrow a cgthree card, and put a cgthree and\na cgsix card in the same SPARC-2 box, the R5 server finds\nthe second card. I then set the DISPLAY to the\nsecond card, and start a second window manager.  \n\nWorse case is I trade cards with someone, but maybe someone\nout there has seen this problem already...\n\n\nemail is preferred... post if you must...\n\nThanks in advance....\n\n\nJim","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I need info regarding a miniscribe 3.5\" half-height drive. There is a\nsticker on it with the following,\n    MODEL   HDA    PCBA   UNIQUE   TDA\n    8425F   09AA   03AB   03AA     -\nBut the sticker on the biggest chip on the MFM interface has this,\n    MODEL   PCBA   TDA\n     FXX    03AB\n\nWhat is the spec of the drive (# of cyl, heads, etc)?\nHow fast is this drive? Can I use it as a RLL drive? \nI also have a SCSI interface that seems to match all the connectors\nfor this drive. It has this description,\n    MODEL   PCBA   E-P   TDA\n     AXX    01A    29A\nCan I replace the MFM interface by the SCSI interface and use the drive\nas a SCSI drive? What would the drive size be? There is a set of jumpers\non the SCSI interface with \"6SEL\" besides it. What is the use of it?","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\t1.  Don't hold your finger on it\n\t2.  When cooking with it use a very small pan and be sure\n\t  to not spill liquids on the components\n\t3.  If you do not plan to cook with it there are a number of\n\t  small cooling fans designed to mount on the chip and plug\n\t  into your power supply.  Look in Consumer Shoppers.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nCan somebody send me a copy of this faq?\n\nThanks alot!","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Hi!\n\nWe have an old Montage FR-1 35mm film recorder. When connected to a PC with\nits processor card it can directly take HPGL, Targa and Lasergraphics Language\nfiles. 24 bit Targa is quite OK for raster images, but conversion from \nwhatever one happens to have can be quite slow. This Lasergraphics Language\nseems to be (got the source file for one test image) a vector-based language\nthat can handle one million colors. It does some polygons too, and perhaps\nsomething else ?\n\nThe question is, where can I find some information about this language ?\nA FTP site, a book, a company address,.... ?\n\n(OK, it would be nice to have a Windows driver for it, but I'm not THAT\noptimistic...)\n\nThanks in advance for any help!\n\n\tjussi\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nEven better.  Make up pete conrad in a Martian Suit,\nand have him get ou;t  and throw a football\nto the refs.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Hi there,\n \nI have a problem here, I've lost the software drivers and\nsetup programs for my Hardcard.  Can someone email me the\nfiles, or let me know if Plus Development (were they\nbought out by Quantum?) has a BBS or phone #?\n\nI have a Hardcard II XL50.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nThe people involved in it have been building hardware rather than writing\npress releases.  This is not a high-manpower project; they don't *have*\nspare people sitting around.\n\nAs I understand it, there has also been some feeling on the part of some\nof the project management that publicity was not a good idea.  A lot of\npeople have been working on changing this view, with some success.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Will someone who can 'see' the X-Face included in this header please reply\nand tell me if it turned out okay?\n\nI'm not all too sure about my viewing software.  I *hand*-converted this\nthing in \"vi\" from a Sun rasterfile... what a pain!\n\nFor folks who haven't the slightest, it went like this:\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------\n\n\t\tHow to Make Your Own X-Face:\n\t\t   in 0x000F Easy Steps!\n\n\t1. Scan my Drivers' License into a *.PCX file.\n\t2. Use WinGIF to 'trim' my face out of the license,\n\t\t'reduce' it by half, and\n\t\tconvert it to *.BMP.\n\t3. Use Paintbrush to touch up manually.\n\t4. Use WinGIF to 'reduce' it by half again.\n\t5. Use Paintbrush to touch up again.\n\t6. Use WinGIF to 'reduce' it by half *again*\n\t\tand convert it to *.GIF.\n\n\t\t[now over to the UNIX side...]\n\n\t7. Use Snapshot to convert the *.GIF to a Sun rasterfile.\n\t8. Use IconEdit to touch it up and\n\t\tconvert it to an X bitmap.\n\t9. Use \"vi\" (yes, a *text* editor) to manually convert\n\t\tthe rasterfile into the \"Uncompressed X-Face\" format.\n\t\t(Lots of global \"ed\" commands, and by the time you're\n\t\t done you'll mirror hex bytewise in your sleep!!)\n\n\t\t[now over to the *Linux* side...]\n\n\tA. Use \"compface\" to convert it to what you see here:\n\n %:A<m@Dob}BO\"'E\",EEQGbn7qy(En7aS5U([k\/\/\"G{6^HIbY9X8~+PD($}6szF\"&vVxCXSn\n 8mw^0G#nVHE%W,`X\"[j0s{r.~%zs:O|HFU=LwzYgH\n\n\tB. Try viewing it by whatever means you have available.\n\tC. Go back to step 9, but do it *right* this time.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n\nhahahahahahahahahahaha - thanks for that, I haven't laughed so much in \nages!","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\"CHRISTIANITY IN CRISIS\"\n                                    by: Hank Hanegraaff\n\n\n\n         \"Controversy for the sake of controversy is a sin.\n            Controversy for the sake of truth is a divine command.\"\n                                       -Dr. Walter Martin\n\n\nDr. Walter Martin personally selected Hank Hanegraaff to succeed him\nas President of the Christian Research Institute -- the largest \nevangelical counter-cult organization in the world. In this skillful, \ncareful treatment of an explosive subject, Hanegraaff documents and \nexamines how the beliefs of the Word of Faith movement clearly \ncompromises and confuse the essentials of the historic Christian \nfaith. For the first time ever, this large and influential movement\nis legitimately labeled as cultic.\n\nIn this book, Hanegraaff discusses such leaders of the Word of Faith \nmovement as E.W. Kenyon and the Twelve Apostles of \"another gospel\" \n(Gal 1:6-9) (Kenneth E. Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Frederick\nK.C. Price, John Avanzini, Robert Tilton, Marilyn Hickey, Paul (David) \nYonggi Cho, Charles Capps, Jerry Savelle, Morris Cerullo, and Paul and \nJan Crouch).\n\nThe book is now available through Harvest House Publishers and should\nbe in most Christian Book Stores soon. You can order a hard-back copy \nthrough CRI for $14.99 by calling 1-800-443-9797 and avoid retail \nmark-ups.\n\nThe Christian Research Journal, which is a quarterly publication by CRI \nhas an article in it's most recent issue just released called, \"What's \nWrong With The Word Faith Movement?\" This is a good article that will \ninform you of each of the teachers above, and tide you over until your \nbook arrives. If you are interested in receiving the Journal yourself, \nyou can order it from CRI at the number above for $14 a year. It is the \nbest source of the most-accurate and well-researched info in Christiandom \ntoday.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
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{"text":"\nI did.  You're mistaken.  NSA's communications intelligence mission is\nstrictly against foreign governments.  Here's an excerpt from the enabling\ncharter (24 Oct 52, Truman) that should clarify this.  The charter was\ndeclassified in about Feb 1990 when an FOIA request made it public.  Mind\nyou, I don't know that they never collect anything they're not supposed\nto... but spying on US citizens isn't in their charter.\n\n    b. The COMINT  mission of the National  Security Agency\n\t(NSA) shall be to provide an effective,  unified organization\n\tand control of the communications  intelligence activities of\n\tthe United States  conducted against foreign  governments, to\n\tprovide for  integrated operational  policies and  procedures\n\tpertaining thereto.   As  used in  this directive,  the terms\n\t\"communications intelligence\"  or \"COMINT\" shall be construed\n\tto mean all  procedures and methods used in  the interception\n\tof communications  other  than foreign  press and  propaganda\n\tbroadcasts  and  the  obtaining  of   information  from  such\n\tcommunications by other  than intended recipients,  but shall\n\texclude censorship  and the  production and dissemination  of\n\tfinished intelligence.\n\nThey're also tasked with protecting the US's communications, but I haven't\nseen the specific enabling memo on that.  I assume that's the role under\nwhich Skipjack was developed.\n\nNSA is not in the standard-setting business, though -- that's why this\nClipper stuff came from NIST, which I believe is tasked with coming up\nwith standards based on their best inputs from other government agencies,\nwhich would include NSA.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\nBaloney.  Either the programmer or the people who decided to let their\nactions be governed by the program are clearly at fault.  If you neglect\nto do maintenance on your car, and the steering goes out, you _are_\nresponsible for the death of all those kids on the sidewalk your car\nsubsequently drives over \"on its own\".","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nThough this will be addressed in the series of articles I'm posting now under\n\"ARESNOKOITIA\", I can't wait.  This just really blew my socks off.  Read I Tim\n1: 3-11.  Verses 3-8 speaks against those who have perverted the teachings of\nthe Mosaic Law.  In vv.9-10, we have, *IN ORDER*, the 5th thru the 9th\ncommandments and in the midst of this listing is \"homosexuals.\"  The decalogue,\nabove everything else, is seen as God's absolute.  If you don't believe in\nabsolutes, then you have nothing do do with Jehovah of the OT, which Paul\nreveals to be the Messiah of the NT. \"Lord Christ Jesus\" transliterates to read\n\"Jehovah's Anointed Savior.\"  \n  In I Cor5, we see the same emphasis of moral separation from the pagan\ngentiles as we do in Lev 18-20.  In I Cor 6:9-10, only one notation (drunkards)\nis not found in Lev 18-20.  Paul was not naive in his use of the LXX.  He knew\nfull well how he was using the Law of God that was given in the OT, for\napplication in the NT.  As I've said, the Law was fulfilled, not done away\nwith.\n\n\nThis understanding is thoroughly rebutted in DeYoungs article that is being\nposted.  Please refer to it.\n\n\nWe can do better than \"probably\" which is not an adequate defense against the\nstatement that Paul's culture didn't have the same understanding of\nhomosexuality as ours.  \nAgain read the article because it uses facts.\n\n\nI think I do, because I have worked in the homosexual community by means of\nworking with AIDs patients.  The pastoral is merely the practical application\nof the theological truth however.  Those who are working thru the issue of\nhomosexuality need to have our love and understanding just as with a friend who\nis contiplating cheating on his wife or a friend who lives with his girlfriend,\nyet you continue to witness to him.  But, once the choice is made, and there is\nno remorse, then I feel that Paul's \"pastoral\" care, as presented in the\nCorinthian Church, come to bear significance.  THe one in active rebellion\nshould be placed outside of the church if a believer, and if a non-believer,\nthen one wipes his sandels and leaves it in Gods hand.  If there was a member\nin your youth group who was constantly pawing at the little girls, you wouldn't\nhesitate to deal with the matter quickly and decisivly.  That, in part, betrays\nthe present \"political correctness\" of the issue.  Pederasty is not accepted at\nthe present, but some how we are to accept homosexuality because the latter is\npolitically correct, while the former is not -at least not yet.  THis is how\nthe morals decay.  \n\nI guess this would follow the liberal application in the political realm of\neconomics.  The liberals want to tax the rich in the federal, yet in their own\nstates, when they try to get businesses to settle there, they give tax\nincentives to these same richies.  It comes down to a moral code of\nrelativeness, or to use the cultural thing, politically correct -at the moment.\n--Rex","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"What about disks?  Won't it erase them if you're carrying them in the bag?","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Jeremiah:\n25:27 Therefore thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the LORD of\nhosts, the God of Israel; Drink ye, and be drunken, and spue, and\nfall, and rise no more, because of the sword which I will send among\nyou.\n25:28 And it shall be, if they refuse to take the cup at thine hand to\ndrink, then shalt thou say unto them, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Ye\nshall certainly drink.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"hi netters,\n\n\tI'm doing a project which is about image analysis.  Firstly, I\nhave to find out any restrictions or limitations on the colour display\non various kind of workstations, they are DECstation, HP, Amiga, Apollo.\n\n\tSecondly, I read from some graphic texts that image is displayed\nin 24 bites(please point out to me if I got it wrong).  But, the images\nwhich I will deal with are displayed in 16 bites by the software they\nare using currently.  So, will there be any problems to display them\nunder X-windows in the future? Because we are thinking to implement the\nGUI by X-windows for our project\n\n\n\tIs there any person here can help me to solve the problem or\nquery above?  Or, give me some advice or suggestion where I can find\nthem out. \n\n\tPlease send me an e-mail if there are any.  Thanks in advance.\n\n\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\tYours\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\tChristine Chan\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nHave there ever been any other no-hitters in Mariner history?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nThis homeopathic remedies.  I tried the dander one for a month. 15 drops \nthree times a day.  I didn't notice any change whats so ever.  How long \nwere you using the drops before you noticed a difference?","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I am planning on buying a modem and related software. What are some good \nproducts out there that won't cost me a lot of money but will still do \nthe job? \n\nAny help will be appreciated.  I am looking for something in the 2400 baud \narea. \n\nKenneth\n                 \n\n-- ","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Pete--\nThat was uncalled for. I'm sure Andi Beyer or whatever his name is\nwas a product of his environment before he came to school, and is\nenjoying the mantle of THE UNIVERSITY to make his viewpoint seem\nlegitimate (well-reasoned). I'm at Virginia, too, and I think \nmaligning UVA is in poor taste, even if Beyer did slip in here.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nThis is kind of interesting.  I always assumed that the 240SX was named\nbecause of the 2.4 liter engine which it uses.  Likewise for the 200SX\nwhich uses a 2.0 liter engine.  Isn't this true?\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Seagate ST-212, HH, 10MB, $25\n\nIBM, FH, 30MB, $70\n\nThey all are MFM type and in good working condition.\n\nBuyers pay shipping.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"'63 to '82 vettes had the same basic chassis. 1980 add aluminum (weaker) \nrear 'axle' housing.  All these years used same brakes, similar springs etc\n  Late 70's was a bad year for GM reliability.  Catastrophic converter was \nadded in 1975.\n\nCheapest corvette '78 to '79 low end about 4k tops out about $12k except \nfor those morooons that think there '78 indy \/ 25th aniversity vette is \nspecial.  These guys have been known to ask 25K.  I don't think they get it\n.\n\nBest buy: convertables 69 - 74.  I got my 69 for 5K - needs body work but \nI'm willing.  \n\nParts for all are readily avail at swap meets and mail order etc.\n\nV-8 reliability \/ looks \/ independant suspension \/ 4 wheel disk and all \nunder 10K.  And they thought a miata was a good deal.\n\n\nMy origional inquires to my insurance agent: I can drive my '69 convertable \nfor 3000 miles or less per year, I must keep it in a locked garage and it \nwill cost me 2% of the stated value per year (does this sound right?).\n\n\nGet an appraiser to look at the car. He will check serial numbers and look \nfor origional equipe.  Depending on what mods have been done the car could \nbe worth only 10K.  Problems like wrong engine \/ trans.  Wrong paint type (\nvetts used lacquer)  An modification would reduce tthe value.  But your \nlooking for a car to drive right?\n\nThis sounds like a ball park price for a small-block (327 cu in.) \/ manual \n\/ no air car.  A 427 would put it closer to $30K.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I have the following CD's for sale for $5 each plus shipping\nBody Count - (without \"Cop Killer\")\nYo! MTV Raps (volume 1)\nSkid Row (1st album)\nBryan Adams - Waking up the Neighbours\nTemple of the Dog\nC + C Music Factory - gonna make you sweat\n\nIBM PC games -\nEye of the Beholder 2 with cluebook - $25\nPools of Darkness - $18\nJet Fighter 2 - $18\n\nBooks - \nAncient Egypt, a Social History (retail $26, will sell for $8)\nEncyclopedia of Ancient Egypt (hardcover, 283 pages) - $18\nEncyclopedia of Physics (hardcover, 1371 pages, 1990) - $25\n\n+ shipping also on books and games","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nJonathan, interesting questions.  Some wonder whether or not the moon could\nhave ever supported an atmosphere.  I'd be interested in knowing what\nour geology\/environmental sciences friends think.\n\nAs for human tolerances, the best example of human endurance in terms\nof altitude (i.e. low atmospheric pressure and lower oxygen partial pressure)\nis in my opinion to the scaling of Mt. Everest without oxygen assistance.\nThis was accomplished by a team of mountaineers who trained at high\naltitudes for quite awhile (I think a few months) and then were flown by\nhelicopter from that training altitude to the equivalent altitude on\nMount Everest, where they began the ascent of our planet's highest peak\nwithout oxygen tanks.  This is quite a feat of physiological endurance, because\nif you or I tried to go to 20,000 feet and exert ourselves, we would probably\npass out, get altitude sick, and could even die from cerebral edema. So\nthis is the limit of low pressure.  High pressure situations would be\nlimited by the duration of time which it takes to slowly acclimate to a higher\npressure.  Skin divers would know alot about high pressure situations and\ncould tell you about how they safely make deep dives without getting the\nbends.  Some military experiments have put people under several atmospheres of\npressure (not sure what the high limit was because the papers aren't in\nfront of me).  Usually at a certain point, the nitrogen in the air becomes\ntoxic to the body and you start acting idiotic.  Divers call this nitrogen\nnarcosis.  Those afflicted can do very dangerous and irrational things, like\ntaking off a diving mask and oxygen tank in order to talk to fish at 100 feet\nunder water.  (Hope any diving folk can elaborate on this matter, as I\nam not a diving expert).\n\nMars cannot support human life without pressurization because the atmosphere\nis too thin (1\/100 th  our Earth's atmospheric density).  In addition,\nthe Mars atmosphere is mostly carbon dioxide.  Basically, you would need a \npressure suit there, or you'd die from the low pressure.  Interesting huh?","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI'm sure there are many people who work with neural networks and\nread this newsgroup. Please tell Kevin what you've achieved, and\nwhat you expect.\n\n\nIndeed. I think dualism is a non-solution, or, as Dennett recently\nput it, a dead horse. \n\nPetri\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nDave,\n\n\tWhat i recall from air craft maintence.  Torqque  and safety\nwires or cotters  were more important, then if some bolt\nface were nicked up.  If it was in bad shape you replaced it\nwith another $30,  aircraft grade bolt.  I can see adjustable spanners\neating up profit,  but lives?","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nWell, let me see if I can explain it.  It's similar to collecting coins,\nor stamps, or campaign buttons, or coke bottles, or juke boxes, or model\ntrains, or just about anything else that is collected (and just about\neverything is collected).  In all cases, you might consider it something\nof an aberration; I mean, what purpose does it serve?  Not much really;\nit's just a hobby.  The collector yearns for diversity (not much use in\nhaving TWO of the same thing, except for trading\/selling it), historical\nsignificance (this was the thingy used by so-and-so), technical significance\n(this is the only one that does such-and-such like this; this is the first\none to do it this way), rarity, and so on.\n\nSome people use their collections, other people do not.  As you state, you\nuse your collection.  In one sense, this diminishes the value of your\ncollection as the items suffer wear and exposure.  In another sense, it\ncan enhance your own enjoyment of your collection.  Some people collect\nfirearms that they do not use; other people use some or all of the firearms\nthey collect.  It's just personal preference.\n\nOops, 'personal preference' ... I guess we're not supposed to have that any\nmore, are we?","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nBut of course it does.   It's certainly a legal matter.  If it's not a\nlegal matter that interest *you* you may simply put it in your kill\nfile. ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"HONDA ACCORD FOR SALE\n                =====================\n\n-       4 Dr, Steel Grey, 1984 Honda Accord. \n-       ~ 139K miles\n-       5 speed (manual)  gives  around 30mpg\n-       Brand new clutch (installed last month)\n-       Original owner\n-       AM\/FM (Cassette doesn't work), A\/C, Cruise Control\n-       $2500\/b.o\n-       Runs great. Reason for selling: Recently purchased a new car","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nI read about a SuperTrapp system called E.A.R that was supposed to be\nquiet enough to pass some European standards.  Apparently it's not\non the market yet...\n\nYoshimura makes a few systems that are supposed to be \"kind of\" quiet.\nThey are also really light.  I'm planning on getting one of these \nsystems soon, and will post the results.\n\n- Mark\n------------------------------------------------------------------------\nMark S. Burnham (markb@wc.novell.com) AMA#668966  DoD#0747 \nAlfa Romeo GTV-6                             '90 Ninja 750","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nI'm sure you are not.   After the \"San Francisco\" Earthquake \na couple of years ago, there was a flurry of traffic on \ntalk.religion.misc about how this was the result of the \nnotorious homo- this that and t'other in the City.\n\nThe fact that the Earthquake was actually down the road in\nSanta Cruz\/Watsonville didn't seem to phase them any.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"930425 \n\n\nRome was under attack by barbarians, they sent for advice to some Oracle,\nand she said Worship Cybele and you'll be saved. They did, they were.\n\nCybele was the quintessential wiccan goddess, there was Her and her son &\nlover, Attis. Yucky idea if you ask me. OK the book says she was Phrygian,\nfrom the neolithic matriarchal society Catal Huyuk (Turkey). Worshipped 1st\nas Black Stone (that Kaaba in Mecca ring a bell maybe????) Carried to Rome\nin 205BC to save them from Hannibal.\n\n\nResponse:\n\nIs there some relation between the name 'Cybele' and the phenemenon of the\n'sibyl'?  Your paragraph above seems to indicate there might be.\n\nMy understanding is that Islam was founded on the remains of a goddess\ncult or two.  Many Muslims would not like to hear that. ;>\n\n\nYou:\n\nIt gets more interesting. Romans called her Great Mother (Magna Mater),\ncould be the reason why so many of those Mary statues in Europe are black,\nprob. IS connected to that Ka'aba they've got in Mecca, 3rd cent. AD She was\nsupreme Goddess in Lyons, France . . . Attis was castrated and formed into\na pine tree . . . she should be worshiped on 25 Mar . . . in Rome it was\nan ecstatic cult, her priests wore drag, worked themselves up in dance and\ncastrated themselves in order to initiate to her, lived their lives as women.\nThey wore make up and jewelry and the whole bit.\n\nOnly other such primitive transsexualism I know of goes on in India (where\nelse?) where they do that castration thing under some meditation maybe, I\nforget by now...there's a book on that.)\n\nOf course, that excepts that weird Russian \/ Romanian 18th cent. Xian cult\nthat did all kinds of self-castration too, I forget their name.\n\n\nResponse:\n\nI'd love to get details or references on any of the above.  My own exploration\nof this issue has only extended to a brief examination of the Zuni 'berdache'.\n_The Zuni Man-Woman_, by Will Roscoe, University of New Mexico Press, 1991\nprobably has some interesting things to say about them.  I've yet to\nprocure it.\n\nAny details or references on:\n\nEcstatic cults in Rome, India, Russia\/Romania (Christian too?) which\nexhibit any type of transsexualism or transvestitism, male OR female\n(though I expect mostly the former will be found ;>).\n\n\nThanks for your interesting posts, Charles. :>\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Hi there,\n\nI'm looking for help on hi-rez CGA modes (hey, i know it sounds crazy but at\nthe moment it's got to do). My card's manual says it does something like\n640 by 400 2 colour and 640 by 200 4 colour (the card has 64k memory). Could \nanyone give me some help on how to implement these modes (Assembly language \nis fine). Any other usefull tips on the CGA regs will also help.\n\nThanx in advance...\n\nFrans.\n\n\nMy eMail is","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nIt will be ironic in the extreme if Spector manages to uncover a\ngovernment conspiracy and cover-up in this case. Maybe he'll posit a\nMagic Grenade that lit fires in three wings of the building at once.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nHeh, someone mentioned Tommy Soderstrom (Flyers) for the besk mask poll\ntoo (in the mentioned below part).  All he has is a plain white helmet\nwith a big cage.\nI found this pretty amusing.\n\n\t\t\t\t\t-John Santore\n\nPhiladelphia Flyers in '93-'94!\n\n=============================================================================\n ____________________                                \n\/                    \\                   \"We break the surface tension \n\\_________     ____   \\                   with our wild kinetic dreams\"\n\/             \/    \\   \\                        -Rush, Grand Designs\n\\_______     \/  (*) )   )\n\/           \/ \/\\___\/   \/                 Go Philadelphia Flyers!\n\\_____     \/ \/        \/\n\/         \/  \\_______\/                   John Santore (jsbh@andrew.cmu.edu)\n\\________\/   ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nYou don't, and never had to.  That's what enhanced shells are for.  Remember \n4DOS and NDOS?  I mean, come on, you can't expect DOS to cover everything \nfrom R1.0.  Microsoft has other projects to work on.\n\n\nI don't think they deliberately crippled the project.  On the other hand, it \nIS a technical achievement for what it does considering that it rides on\ntop of DOS.  I mean, you get a GUI with reasonable speed on a PC.  With \nXWindows running on top of Linux or something similar you're still gonna \nneed a fast processor.\n\n[Re: DOS's death]\n\nExcept for the people who use DOS programs, which means about 75% or more of \nthe business world.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Being a a BLUES fan I don't get to see much else from around the league\nwith the exception of Hockey Night on ESPN.  I can't get the BLUES games\nwhere I go to school, thus I don't get to see a whole lot of other teams\nplay except for the Hawks.  But last night I got to catch a glimpse of\nthe Caps\/Isles game.  It occurred to me that Turgeon is a stud on skates.\nHis moves are quick and brilliant.  You NY fans should be proud.\nP.S. Who won the game (Caps\/Isles)?","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nJason - I've heard the people who are talking about this dismissed as\nconspiracy nuts, but nobody seems to be talking about a conspiracy, at\nleast at the beginning.  There were a lot of bad decisions that went into\nthis tragedy, and some people may now be taking some serious evasive\naction to avoid being held responsible for the unexpected results of\nthose bad decisions.  Actually, the only ones I see that are tied into\na conspiracy theory are the ones raving about deranged cultists with\nstockpiles of weapons and suicide pacts.\n\n\n\nI think there are a lot of us that have been following this pretty closely\nfrom the beginning, and we woud probably agree that this tragedy was more\nthe result of stupidity than malice.\n\n\n\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I think a few things are being missed overall here... First of all, anyone\nwith a DOS manual can copy a disk, or copy anything (hidden files dont\ngo far if you are dealing with anyone who is not comletely DOS ignorant) off\nof a hard disk. 'Professional' crackers aren;t interested in copying disks.\nThey are programmers who get some thrill out of going through unassembly\nlistings of programs to disable copy protection such as serial number\ndialog boxes, volume label checks, and who knows what when it comes to\ncomputer games. \n    \nThose people are in the minority, however. In my experience with the world of\npeople and software, it seems that a good majority of people (say 80%) will\nat some point copy a friend's program (\"Gee, you really oughta try this\") or\naccept a copy. These are people who normally would buy a software package\nor do without, but decided that just once it wouldn't matter.\n\nThe last thing is people who own or are responsible for more than one \ncomputer; most people aren't going to spend $150 * X# of computers for the\nsame software package.. they will just install it x# of times, especially\nthings like DOS upgrades.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"How about changing team names!\nPost your choices!\n\nHere I'll start:\nHow about the \nBaltimore Baseblazers\nSan Francisco Quakes","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nPersonally, I'll be blasphemous and say that if Microsoft keeps doing\nwhat it does so well, I hope to see much harsher\/stricter copyright\nand patent laws for computer algorithms, concepts, interfaces, and\nother intellectual properties to protect real innovators. I'd hate to\nbe one who actually does innovate, and then have Microsoft come in\nlike a huge vulture and use their brute mass (development staff,\nmarketing, etc) to get fat off of my innovation. I don't have all\nthat much sympathy for Apple's complaint against Microsoft, since\nthey just took the ideas from Xerox's PA Research Center when the\nFederal government forced Xerox to disclose their patents over\nantitrust fears. However, for other companies and individuals who\nhave a great idea, yet get it \"borrowed\" by larger corporations who\ncan afford to quickly bring it to market, without any licensing from\nthe original innovator, I feel much sympathy.\n\nLarry","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":": I heard about the arms sale to Saudi Arabia.  Now, how is it such a grave\n: mistake to sell Saudi Arabia weapons?  Or are you claiming that we shouldn't\n: sell any weapons to other countries?  Straightforward answer please.\n\nSaudi Arabia is an oppressive regime that has been recently interfering\nin the politcs of newly renunified Yemen, including assasinations and \nborder incursions. It is entirely possible that they will soon invade.\nUnluckily for Yemen it is not popular in the West as they managed to put\naside political differences during reunification and thus the West has\neffectively lost one half (North?) as a client state.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n  There was a guy around here who would do them on an early pre fairing\nWing with a Hannigan. He would get it right up and ride a ways. Pretty\nintimidating sight. \n\n  He was real good. He had to be. I guess you wouldn't get away with\nchopping the throttle more than once.\n\n__\n   Jorg Klinger            |       GSXR1100        | If you only new who\n   Arch. & Eng. Services   |\"Lost Horizons\"  CR500 | I think I am. \n   UManitoba, Man. Ca.     |\"The Embalmer\"   IT175 |           - anonymous","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nIt will certainly *help* to be able to run Windows and Dos apps but\nthe only way that Solaris or OS\/2 or any other scheme is going to \nchallenge Microsoft is if they can somehow get the prices for Solaris\nor OS\/2 or whatever apps, down to a DOS competitive level.  Everybody\nwould rather run a Solaris app on a Solaris system and an OS\/2 app on\nan OS\/2 system, they usually just can't afford a Unix system because\nof the high prices for good Unix software.\n\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nSee xwd, xpr.  Even better, grab xdump from ftp.cs.uwm.edu.  It makes use \nof these programs as well, but has a much nicer interface (and can do more).\nYou can dump to PostScript, bitmaps, etc.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"As I recall from Kieth Hernandez' 'auto'biography, Rusty is a devout\nRoman Catholic.  Kieth and Rusty would carpool to Shea everyday but\nSunday, when Rusty would go to mass.\nSC\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nTry coming up with your own definition of any or all \"self-hating\" peoples.\nTo me, any who reject their culture to the point where they *only* see the\nabsolute negatives of that culture (generally, or regarding a particular\nevent) and accept *only* those views purely opposing aspects of that culture \n(thus, selective belief in and use of historical facts and a complete ignoring\nof \"context\" results) \"hate\" their culture. That certainly describes Elias, \nsince he has no intention of recognizing that, alongside the Palestinian\nexperience and perspective, there exists also that of Israelis. \nAnd, this is precisely why Israeli society has been tremendously harmed\nby the actions it (its government) has *felt it had to take* in response\nto an \"other\" perceived as a threat. Just as with you, there has long \nbeen a strident and emotional debate about the pain Israelis feel when \nforced to \"balance\" desires for survival and moral beliefs. The trauma\nof having to make that choice is made worse by the fact that neither\ncan be conveniently brushed aside (as a result of a reasoned political\ndebate) for the sake of the other, only reshaped. \n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"If you want slow LED flash rates, adjustable by switches (or by a\n4066\/4016 digitally controlled switch), I suggest looking at a 555\noscillator chip. They cost ~$1 at Radio Shack (much cheaper in\nquantity at quality places), and you will be able to find good info\nabout simple circuits in a 555 oscialltor notebook (I think Forest\nMims has one at Radio Shack). You'll have to toy with\nresistor\/capacitor values OR you can use your head with a little math\nto get the right frequencies. Any engineer worth his salt, can make a\n555 osciallator... It's in the book, and left up to you to see (I hate\ndoing ASCII circuit graphics). The 555 can accurately go from a few Hz\nto about 500 KHz (I think).\n\nAbout the Tape Recorder gizmo, you could alter a stereo tape deck to\nuse one channel as a DATA line (for flashing LED), and one as audio\nline (for voice or music). This would eliminate a lot of noise.\n\nThe data line is probably most easily done\nby some kind of PLL or bandpass filter (using just an op-amp). The 565\nchip is a good PLL, and not hard to work with. However if you nothing\nabout how a PLL works, I suggest you don't try this. Op-Amp\ninformation can also be found in the Forest Mims Radio Shack\ninfo-booklets, and the popular 741 op-amp is a snap to work with.\nSetting frequency and bandpass filter values are not so easy, so I\nwould suggest the 555 method firstmost... I have no idea what this is\ngoing into, so I am really generalizing...\n\nAs for manufacturing techniques, if you're only goofing with it, I\nsuggest you breadboard the thing... No need to solder. Wire-wrap would\nbe the next, more permanent step. And lastly, soldering\/PCB making.\nHope that clears things......","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nWhat does this bill do?\n\n\nMcD","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I badly need a pair of SEGA 3D glasses for a cheap VR setup.  If you have \na set and want to part with it, I can arrange shipping, etc.., and duty \nif necessary.\n \nLeave e-mail to:\ndavecru@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca\n \nor call\n \n(403) 459-2893\nask for DJ.\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"A friend and I have ATI Graphic Ultra display adaptors, and they have\nbeen reasonably good performers, but we both have had irritating compatibility\nproblems with the ATI drivers and are ready to change to something faster\nand more compatible with windows. I have heard rumblings that the new Orchid\n9000 card is very fast. Anyone have experience with this card? What is\ncurrently available that is fast, compatible, does 1280x1024x256 non-\ninterlaced and cost under $500?\n\nKen Keirnan\n-- ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nLike it or not stock prices and sales of a particular product ARE measures\nof success. They can be measures of short term or long term success. I think\nin MS case they are a good measure of their long term success. The original\npost mentioned how it seems on this group that there are a large number\nof people attacking MS and not willing to accept anything positive about MS.\nI was trying to make a point that the attacks are over emphasized and to\nlook at the sales of MS products they definitely tell a different story.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nWhy bother with a new newsgroup?  If you want to discuss the subject,\n*start discussing it*.  If there is enough traffic to annoy the rest of\nus, we will let you know... and *then* it will be time for a new newsgroup.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Can I view JPEG files without special hardware?","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nThis happens intermittently to Macs in our department, ranging from IIsi's\nto a Quadra 950.\n\nI can end the slowdown immediately by unplugging the Ethernet cable from\nthe Mac. It seems that something on the network puts out these packet\nstorms every few days. These storms have the effect of making our Macs\nslow down to a crawl.\n\nDavid Gutierrez\ndrg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I'm told that I can replace the colorful windows logo that appears as\nwindows invokes with a graphic of my choosing.  The challange is that the\nimage must be in 'RLE' format.  I've got GIF's, PIC's, JPG's, TIF's, etc...\neverything but RLE's!\n\nWhat's the best route to converting these things?  \nWhat program should I download, and from where?  \nHas anybody else done this, and do you have the steps available?","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nWhere did that idea come from?  It's news to me.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"This is very curious being that they are both built by Mercury in the\nvery same factory.\n\nSteve","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I bought a 386DX-40 motherboard for 50$... no documentation at all. Everything\nappears to work, except I'm having trouble getting a few of the LED connectors\nworking. I've looked at the manuals for 4 other motherboards, but the pin\nconfiguration doesn't look anything like what is on this board. Does this\npin arrangement look familiar to anyone out there??? Any hints on where I\ncan find this information?\n\n                 1                 10\n      \"speaker\"  . . . . . . . . . .\n      \"keylock\"  . . . . . . . . . .\n                 11          ^     20\n                       J23   |\n                             |The board came with a jumper vertically across\n                              these two pins.\n\nI can get the power\/keylock to work across pins 11-15, reset across pins 9 and\n19, but would prefer not to blow something up by further experimentation.\nThe date on the board itself is 6\/92, opti chips.\n\nI would really appreciate any help, and thank you in advance.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nBecause, unlike the UK, passing the average driving test over here\nusually only requires a pulse & a single digit IQ. Every state controls\ntheir own licensing requirements, so it's possible that there's a test\nout there that actually requires some driving skills, but I doubt it.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n \n                                                      cheek.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"My doc handed me 10mg samples of CLARITIN (brand of Ioratadine Tablet\nfrom Schering Corp.)  I tried to find it in the PDR to no avail. I\ndo remember she mentioned this drug was relatively new to the US but\navailable overseas for quite some time.\n\nLooking mostly for side-effect, contraindications, and mode of action \nsuch that it differs from Seldane and Hismanal.\n\nEmail or newsgroup is fine. Thanx in advance.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Hello Netters\n\n\tI recenlty aquired enough money to purchase a laser printer.\nThe other day, I bought the COMPUTER SHOPPER mag.  I was looking through\nprinter review section and noticed the WINPRINTER800.  The machine is \nincredibly low priced for all the features it has \n\n\t\t\t800 dpi!\n\t\t\t8Meg RAM\n\t\t\tPostscript compatable\n\t\t\tenvelope printing\n\nMy question is does anyone have one of these or know why the price is so\ncheap?  I would appricaiate it if someone would pass on their knowledge\non this subject.  Thanks alot!\n\n\t\t\t\t\tDave\n------------------------------\nDonuts are a girls best friend","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":" >in the field who might be able to find out haven't yet done their\n >review of the chip design, and there's been a lot of wild speculation\n >and guesswork from those with little information that it might be\n >Swiss cheese.\n\n  Oh, that puts the debate on -excellent- terms for our side:\n\n  FEDS:  You people saying that Clipper is insecure don't have any real\ninformation to support that judgment.\n  ME:  Fine -- show me this \"information\" that would prove me wrong.\n  FEDS:  That's secret!","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n   On the other hand, Rush made an interesting point: The Democrats ran\n   one of their best campaigns in years against a pathetic Republican and\n   a paranoiac and still only pulled 43% of the vote, lost 10 seats in\n   the House, and gained 0 seats in the Senate.  1994 might be pretty\n   interesting.\n\nClueless of the world, take heart!  57% of the electorate is willing\nto vote for \"a pathetic Republican and a paranoiac\"!!","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I'm replying to someone who asked for information on space camp.\nI have a brochure that has all different schedules. What age, what \nlevel and what program do you want to know the schedule of? Most of the \nmissions are 5 to 8 days long. The address for Huntsville is:\n\nAlabama Space Science\nExhibit Commission\nU.S. Space and Rocket Center\nOne Tranquility Base, Huntsville, AL 35807\n\n- Jennifer\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I recently made the mistake of purchasing a SONY CPD-1320 monitor for my\nMac IIci.  The monitor is very good, however it seems that the IIci does not\nsupport VGA (then why did you buy it you ask?  I am stupid I reply).  What I\nam looking for is a video card, preferably 8 bit, which supports VGA.  I am\ninterested in any information I can get.  Offers for the sale of applicable\ncards will also be considered.  \n\nThanks in advance.\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\nAnd unless I am mistaken (I screwed up my borrowed VCR and got the first 2\nminutes :-), the Corrado SLC was awarded AJAC's Sports (Sporty?) Car of the\nYear..\n\nMattias\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"=========================\ncommodore 128\n1571 d\/s disk drive\n2 joysticks\n1 mouse\nlotsa software, both games and apps.\nrapid fire joystick adapter\nALL necessary cables\n==========================\nabout a year old\n\n$95 OBO","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\n\nOur application requires us to capture keypad presses for all windows\nin a number of applications.  We are trying to use action translation\ntables to implement this.  We have only succeeded by assigning the\ntranslation table to every individual widget in all windows in a single\napplication.  The Xt calls we make are included below.\n\nIt would be much more convenient if we could assign the translation\ntable to a class of widgets rather than individual widget instantiations,\nand also accomplish it for MULTIPLE applications.  If someone could\ndescribe how do this it would be greatly appreciated.\n\nPlatform: Sun Sparc w\/ X11R4 & Motif 1.1.4\n\n***********************************************************************\n\nstatic XtActionsRec actionsTable[] = {\n        {\"up\", do_up},\n        {\"right\", do_right},\n        {\"middle\", do_middle},\n        {\"left\", do_left},\n        {\"down\", do_down},\n\t{\"bye\", quit},\n};\n\nstatic char defaultTranslations[] = \n\t\t\"<Key>KP_8: up() \\n\\\n\t\t <Key>KP_6: right() \\n\\\n\t\t <Key>KP_5: middle() \\n\\\n\t\t <Key>KP_4: left() \\n\\\n\t\t <Key>KP_2: down() \\n\\\n\t\t <Key>KP_1: bye()\"; \n\nXtTranslations\ttrans_table, trans_table2;\n\n(. . .)\n\n    XtAddActions(actionsTable, XtNumber(actionsTable));\n    trans_table = XtParseTranslationTable(defaultTranslations);\n\n    widget = XtCreateManagedWidget(\"msg\", xmPushButtonWidgetClass,\n\t\tform, wargs, n);\n\n    XtOverrideTranslations(widget, trans_table);","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nI think you would need a DOS macro program.  Superkey (by Borland?)\ncomes to mind.  I don't think Windows is capable of sending\nkeystrokes to a DOS window.\n\nWhat you want to do sounds like a security problem to me, though.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nGCC and other big programs seemed to crash about 15% of the time for me.\ngcc gave something like \"program as got fatal signal 11\" and when doing\nanything past the complexity of elvis, kermit, etc, I got kernel general\nprotection faults at *least* once a session.\n\nI disabled my cache as suggested, and bingo, Linux is as stable as a rock\n(it hasn't given me a core dump or kernel error yet).\n\nDoes any one know why the cache would do something like this?\n\nAldy\n--\nhernandz@andrews.edu","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"We have Suns running SunOS 4.1.3 and Openwindows 3.0 (X11R4). We have\nused Xvision on a PC, setup to broadcast query to the UNIX xdm servers and\nallow a user to choose a UNIX client in which to login: xdm will then\nmanage that display. I would like to do the same thing with xfree86\nrunning under Linux, but I don't know how. I don't want to hardwire the UNIX\nxdm to manage the PC displays as the PC's are not always running Linux \n(let alone xfree86). I would like the same setup as provided by Xvision.\n\nCan anybody help?\nThanks,","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nIt varies. You may get a catalog or price list from the advertiser, or\nif the ad was a specific product - a slec sheet on that product or line.\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nFor those of you who complain about Don Cherry, and wonder why he is\npopular...\n\nthe reply is Dick Vitale and John Madden and Bobby Knight and\nJoe Garagiola and Howard Cosell.\n\nJohn Madden picks Gary Clark of the Redskins for his All-Madden team\na lot, over much better receivers...for much the same reasons Cherry\nsings the praises of Doug Gilmour...a little guy with heart...yet one\ndoesn't see a string of American posts saying that John Madden has\nlost his marbles.\n\nDick Vitale is always promoting this kid from this high school or\nthat college with outrageous statements.\n\nWhy should Americans expect that Canada would not have such characters\nin relation to our greatest passion...which is hockey?   Canadians\nare very similar to Americans...culturally our sports are just hockey\nand curling, whereas with Americans it is football\/basketball\/baseball\nand bowling.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n\"This is your god\" (from John Carpenter's \"They Live,\" natch)\n\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nCan anyone figure out what kind of deranged parent was stupid enough to\nbring their infant on a rock throwing crusade (or jihad, sorry)?  18-month\nold infants certainly don't walk around the streets on their own.  That would\nlead me to believe that some nimrod of a \"parent\" brought them along for a \nlittle terrorism.\n\n\nthats what happened.\n\n\n\nUhm, last I heard, the territories were disputed.  Israel's occupation is not\nillegal.  They are legally allowed to remain there until a settlement is reached\nwith the arabs which, from the behavior of the Palestinian negotitating team,\nwill probably be never.\n\n\n\nhuh?  they were buying vegetables.\n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I am looking at buying a Dual Sport type motorcycle. This is my first\ncycle as well. I am interested in any experiences people have with\nthe following motorcycles, good or bad.\n\n\tHonda XR250L\n\tSuzuki DR350S\n\tSuzuki DR250ES\n\tYamaha XT350\n\nMost XXX vs. YYY articles I have seen in magazines pit the Honda XR650L \nagainst another cycle, and the 650 always comes out shining. Is it safe\nto assume that the 250 would be of equal quality ?","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"...\n\nIf we are indeed talking about CS, then this is not quite accurate. CS is\n\"just\" tear gas--albeit the worst kind. It isn't a nausea gas, and doesn't\nhave direct CNS effects. However, it's quite bad--much worse than CN gas. I\nwas briefly exposed to it once (during an engagement in Berkeley circa 1968\n8^) and it's not the kind of thing you forget. It seems to be\nmoisture-activated--it not only made my eyes sting and water, but attacked\nmy breathing passages and lungs. Breathing was painful, and my entire face\nfelt as if it was on fire. These effects persisted for hours after\nexposure, and I was coughing for days afterwards.  If I was exposed to a\ndense concentration of this stuff in a closed space for several hours, I\ndoubt whether I could find the exit. Indeed, I can't imagine living through\nit.\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Yeah... and BMW 525e has 2.7 litres\n\t\t535      3.4 \n\nBTW - can someone out there please tell me how to put someone else's file \non and then reply to that so the other person's file and my own 'reply' go\nto the newgroups together? (ps: just mail me personally) ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nThis is a phenomenon known around work as ready-fire-aim. I am astounded at\nthe number of times people post strong opinions about things they not only\ndon't understand but publicly admit to not understanding. In fact, there's a\nplausible argument that saves are a more rational stat than wins.\n\nFor the record, there are two ways that a reliever can get a save:\nHe must finish the game and either\n1. have entered the game with the tying run on base, at bat, or on deck.\n2. have pitched at least three innings effectively.\nA pitcher may not get a win and a save in the same game.\n\n\nBut this is an argument that *wins* is a dumb stat, not saves.\n\n\nThis again doesn't support your claim about saves at the beginning of your\npost. \n\n Mike Jones | AIX High-End Development | mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I've been using Final from CODA for some time, but suddenly it stopped using \nmy fonts. I have a 386 PC with lots of disk space and memory, a Postscript \nlaser, Win3.1, Finale 2.0.1 and I recently installed ATM 2.0. I've been \nfiddling around with the Windows setup for some time, and when I needed to do \nsome work with Finale things didn't print properly. It might - and it might \nnot - have anything to do with the installation of ATM from 1.something to \n2.0, but I don't have the old ATM lying around anomore. \n\nThe most annoying problem was that the Petrucci font didn't print, which is a \nrather important font :-) \n\nI managed to get direct printing to work if I included OwnPS=0 in the \n[Finale] section of WIN.INI, but Compile PostScript Listing still doesn't \nwork; and it's those .EPS files I need. When I look at the .eps files \ngenerated the only font which appears there is Courier. I found out that if I \nmanually changed the Courier 24-point to Petrucci 24-point in the .EPS file \neverything worked ok, but I'd rather avoid that since I have a lot of songs \nto work with. \n\nAnd yes, in the Special\/Font\/Font names dialog box all the fonts I need are \nlisted, with the correct mapping between Finale, Screen and Printer fonts. \nFinale is obviously aware of the fonts since direct printing of a score works \nwell (that is, after I included OwnPS=0), and all my other Windows \napplications print Petrucci and the other fonts well. \n\nHas anyone encountered problems like this? \n\nWhat is the current version of Finale from Coda Music Software? I have 2.0.1\n\nAre the people at Coda available on Internet or X.400?\n\nI'd be grateful for all hints and help.                                -mats","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nHow about the GNU people, handing out very good, free software?  I've also\ndistributed two decent-sized programs myself, the Go player Fumiko (at\nftp.u.washington.edu) and the Genetic Neural Network Programmer CEREBRUM\n(somewhere out there).\n\nI've only had time to write these programs because of scholarships and\ngrants.  The intended benefit to society, or a loophole in the system? \n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I am looking for info on products that can take\nWindows source on a Unix box (such as Sparc), and produce a\nMotif executable.  Another requirement is that MFC 2.0 should\nbe supported.  I already know of:\n\n        Wind\/U  by Bristol Technologies\n        Hunter SDK\n        MainWin by MainSoft\n\n        Are there any others?\n\n\tI will post a summary if it's wanted.\n\n\t\t\t\tDaniel","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Hi,\n  I need to know if there is a 256 color graphics mode that allows multiple\npages.  I want something like mode 0x10 (640x350x16 2 pages).  I have been\nexperimenting with graphics by calling the BIOS with borland turbo c.  I\nfeel like I am flying blind in this area, and could use all the help that\nyou can give.\n\n  Thanks,\n\tIvan......\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
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{"text":"\nWell, let's delve one level deeper. Why is democracy better than tribalism or\nother means of Govt.? The President of Georgia was elected with a thumping\nmajority and booted out later, w\/ no objections from the UN. Similarly, the\npeople of Algeria elected an Islamic Fundemantalist Party into power but the\njunta declared it illegal. In both cases, I personally have _no_ problems with\nthe outcome, but if the voice of the people is that hallowed thing that the \nworld community claims to revere so, why isn't it interfering there? \n\n.\nExactly. My point is that it will inevitably turn out that way, and we can save\nourselves a lot of pain and trouble by simply letting people sort out their\nproblems on their own. Colonial interventions, even in Haiti, haven't worked \nin the past. They had a 102 coups from 1845-1915. The US invaded in 1915. And left\nin 1933, almost 17 years after they had intended to. Was it a success? Well,\nlook at Haiti today and of the past 40 years and decide for yourself. It _was_\na success so long as the US was in, from what I remember. But it didn't last\nlong, obviously.\n\n\nNobody did. People should have a right to self-defense. If the UN wants to arm\nthe Bosnians or Haitian revolutionaries or whoever, I have no problems with\nthat. I do when they cross that line and attempt to re-arrange boundaries, govts.\netc., the Vance-Owen plan being one such piece of insanity.\n \n\nWe finally have a clearly-stated point of difference. Colonialism can\nhave its good side, which is as you stated above - removing thugs from being\nable to lord it over powerless people. I am worried that the bad side is what \nwill assert itself, and I am prepared to let natural forces take their course \nif that will mean we can avoid the bad side of colonialism.\n\n\n-- \nSrinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu\n\nIf The University of Illinois shares these views, I'd be surprised.\nThey aren't that smart generally -:).","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"From article <C5wDMK.Jrn@hawk.cs.ukans.edu>, by 3s737abg@hawk.cs.ukans.edu (Unknown Class User):\nSaying things like that incline one to believe that you can't get it (SCSI)\nto work for your setup (too bad). I've daisy-chained 4 SCSI devices off my\nmac without a problem (limit is 7 SCSI devices in the daisy-chain). If it\nisn't working for you, it's really better to state the problem (unless all\nyou really intend to do is try to get nasty e-mail, in that case perhaps you\nwould be better off posting to alt.masochistic type of newsgroup).\n  \/`-_                   callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu\n {     }\/ Joel E Callan             Hey, why do you think I have the answer?\n  \\   .\/  2909 N. 44th Street         May you sit on the tack of success\n   |___|  Milwaukee, WI  53210        and rise to the occasion!","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
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{"text":"Last night, Boston Red Sox win its 11 games of 14 games by beating Seattle\n5-2.  Roger Clemson pitch not so dominate.  He walked at least 6 man in\nfirst 6 inns.  But Valetin and Greenwell hit homeruns and Red Sox prevail.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nI wonder why you say that?  I don't see why having a spouse and\/or\nkids would have anything to do with it.  It might if you brought\nyour kids to the game and wanted them to get home in time to get\nto bed at a reasonable hour (in which case I'd probably decide\nto take my kids to games on weekends, as many people do, or else\nbe prepared to leave the game early), but from what you say later\non, you don't bring your kids *or* your spouse to the game.\nAs it happens, I have a husband but no kids, and my husband usually\nattends games with me.\n\n\nI can see it's a problem if you don't bring your wife to the ballgame,\nbut that's a problem even if the game goes a trim 2 1\/2 hours.  As far\nas bagging work the next day, I don't really understand why that's\nnecessary, unless going to a game also means that you consume vast\nquantities of beer (I note that this is the case for many guys).\nIf you don't think you can get up to go to work after a long evening\nout, then don't have long evenings out during the week.\n\n\nLook: if I pay between $8.00 and $20.00 apiece for tickets, plus $10.00 \nfor parking, plus spending my time and energy driving to and from Boston, \nplus spending additional money on concessions etc. at the ballpark, then \nI see going to a game as a considerable investment of time and money.\nI can't afford to go to a lot of games.  Hence, going to a game is a\nbig deal, like going to a play or an opera.  Maybe you have more money than \nI do and can go to games all year long, so it's not such a big deal for you.  \nBut I'm not interested in having games \"sped up\", any more than I want to\nhave _Die Walkure_ cut down to a convenient \"weeknight version\" of two\nhours.  If I felt that going to a night game during the week would interfere \nwith my family life or my work life, then I'd choose to go to a weekend game.\n\nIMPO.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"** Talaris Lazer printer, 16pg\/min **\n\nI have a lazer printer from Talaris that suppose to printer 16 pg \/ min.\n\nI have never set it up to use because I did not expect it to be any bigger than\na lazerJet IIp, but I', wrong.  It was purshase used when a company \nliquidated it.\n\nI will sale it for $350 + shipping. \n\nReply if interested\/obo.\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nWhat is your reaction to people who claim they were abducted by space aliens?\n\nSome of these people say, \"I was abducted, experimented on, etc.\"\nIf we insist that these aliens don't exist is the burden of proof placed on\nus. These people can give no hard facts but can give a lot of testimony to\nback up their beliefs.\n\nReplace <space aliens> with <elvis>, <big foot>, <blue unicorns>, \nand we have a larger percentage of the population than I like to think\nabout.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\nShhh--coke drinkers haven't found out about Phosphoric Acid yet.\n\n:-)\n\nDavid","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nHighway 12 is a great road.  Be sure to stop by the Anasazi (sp) village\nmuseum near Boulder Creek.  Interesting lifestyle :-).  The views of Dixie \nNational Forest are stunning.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"wrote in response to article <30975@galaxy.ucr.edu>, raffi@watnxt08.ucr.edu \n\n[IC] There are some Armenians here, in the USA.\n[IC] In fact, there are some areas where Armenians are majority.\n[IC] Suppose, a large group of people of one of such area decides,\n[IC] that the US \"government is not representing their interests, and vote for\n[IC] seperation\" from the USA.\n\nThe Armenians you refer to have chosen to come to the United States lawfully \nand peacefully. However, if Armenians invade the United States and force\nAmericans to either flee or become Armenians, it will not succeed. Similarly,\nthe Armenians of Karabakh are being forced by Azerbaijan to either become \nAzeris or leave, and it also will not succeed, as has been demonstrated. \n\nKarabakh, irrespective of its geographic position situated technically within\nthe Stalin-prepared borders of Azerbaijan, has been long oppressed and \neventually was invaded in 1991 by Azeri OMON and Soviet forces, resulting in \nthe northern third of this Armenian area being depopulated of Armenians. The \nArmenians have been fighting back ever since. \n\nClearly, you feel it rather ridiculous for Armenians, of let's say Glendale, \nCalifornia, to engage in an independence movement for a free and independent\nGlendale. Similarly, the Azerbaijanis are engaging in a losing attempt at\nclaiming sovereignty over the land and people of Karabakh, who have lived\ncontinuously in Karabakh a thousand years before the first Central Asian \ninvaders ever stepped foot in the Caucasus. \n\n[IC] Should they get it? \n[IC] And should the UN enforce their will?\n[IC] And is it a simple, beautiful concept, indeed?\n\nYour analogy has broken down because you have switched positions of the victim\nand invader. A better analogy would be the direct parallel between Armenians \nof Karabakh and Native Americans. Now, if you wish, we can discuss the tenets \nof might versus right and the policies of settler nations!\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\tIn what way David?  Our government is totally out of control,\n\twhether you realize it or not.  I know you find it painful to\n\tthink of your old buddy Uncle Sam as evil but it's true.  Other\n\tdemocracies have fallen before.  Ours is on its way and knee-jerk\n\tsheep that instinctively trust government are helping it slide.\n\tPower corrupts David, why is that so hard to understand?\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n[...]\n\n\nI think you are mistaken in thinking Tom Scharle to be a atheist.\nYou will find both atheists and Christians among your opponents on t.o.\nCalling your opponents them \"Branch Athiests zealots\" does nothing for\nyour credibility.\n\n\nOh yes, do.\n\n\n\nDear me. This is taken _so_ out of context that it's hard to know where\nto start... The quote starts with material from p 78, and ends with material\nfrom page 81!\n\nOn page 78, there's the bit that says (the parts left out in John King's\n\"quote\" are marked by <>):\n\"<...> the doubt that has infiltrated the previous, smugly confident certitude\nof evolutionary biology<'s last twenty years> has inflamed passions <and\nprovoked some very interesting thought and research>.\"\n\nEldridge goes on immediately following the butchered quote:\n\"In short, evolutionary biology has entered a phase of creativity that is\nthe hallmark of good, active science.\"\n\nThe material that is on page 81 that is \"quoted\" by John King has been\nbutchered even more severely:\n\n\"<I mention this only to illustrate the> **There is**[these words not\nin the original text-prl] lack of agreement even within warring camps\n<: things are really in uproar these days, and each of the \"basic\" ways\nof looking at evolutionary biology has its minor variants.> Sometimes\nit seems as if there are as many variations on each evolutionary theme\nas there are individual biologists.\"\n\nEldridge goes on:\n\"But that's the way it should be; this is how science is supposed to operate.\"\n\n\nAnd just a few sentences down:\n\n\"When they [creationists] misrepresent the exuberant, creative doubt and\ncontroversy permeating evolutionary biology these days, they are actively\npromoting scientific illiteracy.\"\n\nAnd that, John E. King, is precisely what you have done with Eldridge's\narticle. Are you personally responsible for the butchery of the text or\nhave you pulled it out of some creationist propaganda? You owe the people\nreading t.o an apology for posting such misrepresentation.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\n\t\n\n   Could someone explain to me what exactly the Xlib functions \n\nXCreateRegion, XPolygonRegion, XPointInRegion do, or to \n\nsuggest a ftp site where I can find programs using these functions.\n\n\nPS: The man pages does not explain much ......\n\n\t\nThank you,\nLeo.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n-- \n---------------------------------------------------------------------\nLeonidas Nikidis : ln@doc.ic.ac.uk\tImperial College, London,UK\n\t\t\t\t\tDept. of Computing","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n  [excellent and helpful list deleted] \n\n\n  Wes's list is of \"do\"s and \"don't\"s for writing your Congressional\nrepresentatives is a fine one but I'd like to encourage people to pay\nextra attention to the point above.  As cliched as the saying may be\nit's nevertheless true that you can catch more flies with honey than\nwith vinegar.\n\n  While the writing styles prevalent on the net possess a certain charm\nplease remember that the person reading your letter is likely to be\nuninfluenced or negatively influenced if you express your concerns in\na way that makes you sound like a flake or a paranoid crackpot.  Wild\nand unsupported accusations about the menace from the NSA will not\ncarry much weight, nor are overblown conclusions about the inevitable\nconsequences of the proposal likely to convince (especially not ones\nthat attempt strained analogies to the rise of the Nazi party.  Please\nsave the Niemoller quote for another letter..)\n\n  If you want your opinions to be taken seriously it is *very* important\nthat you state those opinions in a manner that is understandable and \nseems reasonable to a layman.  Don't overburden your reader with technical\ndetails or expect them to know the history of various encryption \ntechnologies.  Before you mail it, hand your letter to a non-technical\nfriend and ask them to sanity-check it.\n\n  Above all, realize that legislators are often motivated as much by\nself-interest as by anything else.  Try to point out risks in terms that\nwill be meaningful and motivating to them such as the loss of individual\nprivacy rights or the damage restrictive export regulations do to American\nbusinesses' ability to compete in the global marketplace.  Pull the \nstrings that you think will work with your legislator -- if your\nlegislator is unlikely to be swayed by civil-rights concerns then point out\nhow a government-granted monopoly for Mycotronx damages the competitiveness\nof businesses in your district that manufacture or market phone or crypto\ntechnology.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\nGood question.  It's my impression, not backed by evidence, that general\nsouth-of-the-borderness seems to exempt one from the hiring-firing effect\nI was talking about.  \n\nBack in the 20's there were some attempts to hire black Cuban ballplayers; \nthey were rejected by the commissioner and others.\n\n\n\n\nWell, what *did* I mean to say?  Aside from some short-lived exceptions\nsuch as Japanese internment in WW II, only blacks were affected by laws\nregarding: slavery, Jim Crow, miscegenation, military service, etc.  If\nmy claim of exclusivity is not 100% airtight, that is, if you can come\nup with this or that exception, fine -- have a cookie.  But compared to\nthis list, no other racial group put up with a legal onslaught worth\ndiscussing at length.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Quoting dougb@ecs.comm.mot.com in article <1993Apr26.150434.227@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>:","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\tViola has only played in the NL with the Mets -- not possible for him\nto have defeated or lost to every team.  Ditto for Tanana who was mentioned\nin a previous post.\n\n\n\tI don't remember if Seaver managed to get a win against the White Sox\nin his brief sojourn with Boston so I'd say the other pitcher to defeat every\nteam is either Mike Torrez (he bounced around enough for a long enough period\nof time) or Koosman as mentioned.  I would also guess that if one of these\ntwo did not manage to beat every team he did manage to lose to every team.\n\nTom\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nI'll post my guesses to some of these and other trivia questions posted.\n\nFor most career K's with one team, if it's not Ryan, perhaps Steve Carlton.\nWith the Rangers, Hough was there for a long time.\n\nIn the 100 saves department...Maybe Lee Smith(he should have at least\na hundred with the Cubbies, maybe enough with either the RSox or Cards.)\nThen maybe, Gossage?(NYY and SD), Fingers (MIL, OAK)\n\nDon't know about the homers\/steals dept.\n\nIn some other article,(Mets trivia), it could be Tim Leary in at least\nthe losing to all teams, maybe beating all of 'em too.  Probably Seaver\nand Koosman fit too.\n\nAnd in Randy Johnson's no-hitter, I think it was Scott Bradley, the\nother half of the old Mariner catching platoon, who was behind the plate\nthat night.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
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{"text":"(Peter > > Simple logic arguments are folly.  If you read the Bible you\nwill see\n\nI can't. It seems Jesus used logic to make people using logic\nlook like fools? No, that does not sound right, he maybe just\ntold they were fools, and that's it, and people believed that...\nHmm, does not sound reasonable either...\n\nI find it always very intriguing to see people stating that\ntranscendental values can't be explained, and then in the\nnext sentence they try to explain these unexplained values.\nHighly strange.\n\nCheers,\nKent","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nYou can configure devices for the same IRQ as long as you don't use them\n*simultaneously*, under Dos at least. Both LPT1: and SB just sit there until\nyou tell them to do something. You can't configure a SoundBlaster for IRQ7\nif you got an Ethernet Card which hits that IRQ a thousand times or so per \nsecond.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I'm interested in this from the other angle: what antihistamine can I\ntake at bedtime for relief of allergies, with the assurance that its\nsedative effect will have completely worn off by the next morning, but\npreferably with the anti-allergy effect lasting longer?\n\nI'm thinking mainly of OTC products. Which has the least duration of\nsedative action: Benadryl, Chlor-Trimeton, or what?\nNote that I'm asking about duration, not intensity.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThe problem is that QuinZip is very very slow.  So I think that WinZip 4.0\nis still the best choice to use pkzip in Windows!","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":":\tI'd really like to see such a thing developed so that interactive\n:internet talk radio could be done. Ideally, though, it should be a general\n:purpose device. It should be a general purpose enough device that nobody\n:should be able to balk at its widespread use. Obviously, to make it easy\n:for homebrewers, it should use pretty common hardware.\n\nI suggest we start with the ubiquitous Sun, to get a lot of momentum\ngoing.  Custom hardware isn't going to go anywhere until there's a\nuser base.\n\n:\tAnyone interested? I'll start a provisional mailing list. Let\n:me know if you want on.\n\nCount me in.  I need someone at the US end to experiment on the \nprotocols with, and I like the way you code.  Give me 3 weeks to\nmove house and settle in then we'll go for it seriously...","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nThat is the result of watching anti-Muslim 'SDPA' Nazis\/crooks\/idiots \ntoo much. Still covering up the crimes of your fascist Armenian grandparents \nand Nazi Armenian parents? Not a chance. As early as 1934, K. S. Papazian \nasserted in 'Patriotism Perverted' that the Armenians\n\n        'lean toward Fascism and Hitlerism.'[1]\n\nAt that time, he could not have foreseen that the Armenians would\nactively assume a pro-German stance and even collaborate in World\nWar II. His book was dealing with the Armenian genocide of the Muslim\npopulation of Eastern Anatolia. However, extreme rightwing ideological\ntendencies could be observed within the Dashnagtzoutune long before\nthe outbreak of the Second World War.\n\nIn 1936, for example, O. Zarmooni of the 'Tzeghagrons' was quoted\nin the 'Hairenik Weekly:' \n\n\"The race is force: it is treasure. If we follow history we shall \n see that races, due to their innate force, have created the nations\n and these have been secure only insofar as they have reverted to\n the race after becoming a nation. Today Germany and Italy are\n strong because as nations they live and breath in terms of race.\n On the other hand, Russia is comparatively weak because she is\n bereft of social sanctities.\"[2]\n\n[1] K. S. Papazian, 'Patriotism Perverted,' (Boston, Baikar Press\n   1934), Preface.\n[2] 'Hairenik Weekly,' Friday, April 10, 1936, 'The Race is our\n   Refuge' by O. Zarmooni.\n\nIn April 1942, Hitler was preparing for the invasion of the Caucasus.\nA number of Nazi Armenian leaders began submitting plans to German\nofficials in spring and summer 1942. One of them was Souren Begzadian\nPaikhar, son of a former ambassador of the Armenian Republic in Baku.\nPaikhar wrote a letter to Hitler, asking for German support to his\nArmenian national socialist movement Hossank and suggesting the\ncreation of an Armenian SS formation in order \n\n\"to educate the youth of liberated Armenia according to the \n spirit of the Nazi ideas.\"\n\nHe wanted to unite the Armenians of the already occupied territories\nof the USSR in his movement and with them conquer historic Turkish\nhomeland. Paikhar was confined to serving the Nazis in Goebbels\nPropaganda ministry as a speaker for Armenian- and French-language\nradio broadcastings.[1] The Armenian-language broadcastings were\nproduced by yet another Nazi Armenian Viguen Chanth.[2]\n\n[1] Patrick von zur Muhlen (Muehlen), p. 106.\n[2] Enno Meyer, A. J. Berkian, 'Zwischen Rhein und Arax, 900\n    Jahre Deutsch-Armenische beziehungen,' (Heinz Holzberg\n    Verlag-Oldenburg 1988), pp. 124 and 129.\n\n\nThe establishment of Armenian units in the German army was favored\nby General Dro (the Butcher). He played an important role in the\nestablishment of the Armenian 'legions' without assuming any \nofficial position. His views were represented by his men in the\nrespective organs. An interesting meeting took place between Dro\nand Reichsfuehrer-SS Heinrich Himmler toward the end of 1942.\nDro discussed matters of collaboration with Himmler and after\na long conversation, asked if he could visit POW camp close to\nBerlin. Himmler provided Dro with his private car.[1] \n\nA minor problem was that some of the Soviet nationals were not\n'Aryans' but 'subhumans' according to the official Nazi philosophy.\nAs such, they were subject to German racism. However, Armenians\nwere the least threatened and indeed most privileged. In August \n1933, Armenians had been recognized as Aryans by the Bureau of\nRacial Investigation in the Ministry for Domestic Affairs.\n\n[1] Meyer, Berkian, ibid., pp. 112-113.\n\nNeed I go on?\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"A word of warning for those of you registering for SIGGRAPH '93.\nI just received my registration form back in the mail with the\nenvelope marked \"Return to sender. Moved - Left No Address.\nClosed PO Box\". The address I used to register for SIGGRAPH '93\nis the one printed on the registration form:\n\n     ACM SIGGRAPH '93\n     PO Box 95316,\n     Chicago, IL 60694-5316\n\nI printed the envelope in my best printing, honest but evidently\nSIGGRAPH '93 has skipped town or moved?\n\nI ended up faxing my registration to: 312-321-6876. I hope that\nnumber is real!","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"It should be noted that the US benefitted not only from German science and\ntechnology after WW2 but also from British science and technology. From the\ndiscovery and manufacture of penicillin to jet engines, swing wing aircraft,\nthe hovercraft etc etc. all were shipped lock-stick-and-barel across the\nAtlantic. We still are suffering from this sort of thing because of some of the\nmore parochial aspects of US procurement policy. Meiko, a British \nparallel computer company, for example, has now moved most of its facilities to\nthe US since that was the only way it could sell stuff over there.\n                                                                  ","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I still have about 70 records left on hand, all in pristine condition\n(except where noted), quite a few out-of-print and more than a few\nimports in the bunch.\n\nRather than selling the majority for $3-4 each, I'm looking to barter\npackages for stuff that you might be selling over USENET.  I'll also\ntrade for other records in very good condition that you've replaced\nwith CD, as well as pre-recorded videos on Beta or VHS.  In the past,\nI've been able to make deals based on the equivalent list\/store price\n(e.g., 1 CD = 1 movie in Beta format*) to get around what you or I\nmight have originally paid (as if we can even remember!  (-;) **\n\n[At this time, I'm looking for a set of working AA NiCad rechargable\nbatteries ... if you have some lying around, and they're sound, RSVP!]\n\nSo if you're curious, RSVP for my list and if you see anything that\nyou like, send back a proposal for a record package and a copy of\nyour ad for the stuff you're selling ... thanks!\n\ngld\n\n* i.e., the imports and out-of-prints are also valued at 1 used CD;\n\n** I once got a 2400 baud external modem for 10 records (list $81);\nAnybody got a nice, unused blender for making frozen margaritas? (-;\n\nPS: There have been NO additions since the last posting in February;\n        the list has only shrunk as I've made a few deals since.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"EUROPEAN COMPUTER RESEARCH CENTRE\n\nResearch Positions in 3D Graphics\n\nECRC is currently expanding its research staff in three-dimensional\ngraphics. We are looking for highly qualified researchers with a PhD in\ncomputer science and a proven ability to conduct highly innovative\nresearch. Preference will be given to candidates who have strong\nexperience in developing and implementing algorithms for\nthree-dimensional graphics, visualization and user interaction. We\npresently have positions available for both experienced researchers and\nrecent graduates.  Candidates with especially strong backgrounds may be\nconsidered for positions as visiting scientists or for Ph.D. student\nresearch positions.\n\nThe European Computer-Industry Research Centre is located in Munich,\nGermany with English as the working language. The centre is funded by a\nconsortium of major computer companies, with a mission to pursue\nresearch in fundamental areas of computer science. Active areas of\nresearch include visualization and user interfaces, distributed\ncomputing, parallelism, deductive systems and databases. The center\nemploys 45 researchers of 21 different nationalities.\n\nThe small but rapidly growing graphics group is currently investigating\nnew methods for three-dimensional human-computer interaction and the\nintegration of computer vision and computer graphics technology. The\ncenter has extensive computing facilities which includes Sun\nworkstations, Apple Macintoshes, a well equipped graphics laboratory and\nnetwork access to super-computer facilities.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Sega Genesis Games For Sale:  (All these games just $25 each!)\n\nGalaxy Force II\nJordan vs. Bird (One on One, shoot-outs, etc.)\nPowerball\nTest Drive II: The Duel (comes in box)\nValis III by Renovation\n\nAlso for sale:\nSportstalk Football '93 starring Joe Montana\t$35\n\nAll games include manual and case.  Shipping is $4 per order (2nd day priority).","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n]Furthermore, in response to an earlier message, the 1992 U.S. est. output of\n]sulfur dioxide (20 mill. tons) was equivalent to the entire output by the recent\n]eruption of Mt. Pinautubo(Sp.).  Currently world carbon dioxide levels set at approx.\n]360 ppm, in the past 120,000 years it has never gone above 280 (this info\n]was found using ice core samples from the joint French\/Russian\/U.S. Vostok\n]project).  Furthermore,  the background emmisions of chlorine compounds into\n]the atmoshpere is about 0.6 ppb annually, it now sits at 3.5.  This OVERWHELMING\n]data\/info is found in the World Resources doc. published by Oxford University.\n\nGood evidence.\n\n]The ozone hole in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres keeps getting bigger\n]and stickin' around longer whilst skeptics ponder how wrong or corrupt all this\n]data from government and international scientific institutions is.  It is a pity, that,\n]if the skeptics are wrong and we base our complacency on their Limbaugh\n]psycho babble, then we will find ourselves strapped by limited options with\n]which to rectify the primal engineering of our industrial age.\n\nWhat ozone hole in the northern hemisphere?\n\nWhat exactly will happen if we get an ozone hole in the upper atmosphere?\nAccording to the senior chicken-little at NASA, as much more UV radiation\nas if one moved 100 miles south.  Certainly not the calamity that is being\nimagined by eco-lunatics.  \n\nCO2 is going up.  So what.  There's no evidence that the increase is\ndue to burning fossil fuels, no evidence that increasing CO2 will increase\ntemperatures, and no evidience that raising temperatures will do anything\nbut good--ie make millions of acres of tundra into productive life-bearing\nland.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nI hate to disagree, but I will. :)\n(note: I don't pirate software, nor do I trade it. I simply have met and\ntalked extensively with those who have. that's it. the FBI can tap someone\nelse's phone :)\nMost pirating is done by people who don't use the programs they pirate.\nA cracked program tends to get passed on, resplendant in the various graphics\nand animations that advertise whoever performed the modification(s).\n\nI admit that a large portion of the business world is involved in 'giving'\ncopies of programs to one's fellow workers, maybe taking it home for use\non one's own PC, but such trading tends to be interdepartmental or at most\nspread throughout the business as a whole- how many times have you had\nsomeone walking from business to business letting people copy disks?\n\nIt's mostly a matter of convenience: a person sees a program they want to\nuse and they feel justified in making a copy since \"someone's already paid\nfor it\", etc., etc. (A note: this is starting to change a bit. not much\nthough.)\n\n\nwhat about commercially available copy programs? CopyII?\nhow about programs like teledisk, that can do things diskcopy can't?\nand before anyone disputes this because they feel that those who would copy\nwouldn't know about this:\n  after working with people around computers, one comes to realize that\nthe 'average' user doesn't know much. Any computer enthusiast is at least\n200x better at pre-guessing commands and how to use them (can *you* sit down\nand use something without reading the manual?) and it is these people who\nare doing the '20% pirating', not Joe Windows User who can't remember a few\narguments to the dir command.\n\n\nreally? I find it evens out- the online stuff can be read through faster,\nbut you're stuck reading it in linear flow: start to finish, unless you\njump ahead with a search or such. A book, though, you can flip through\nfaster than you can read text on a screen and they usually have a nifty\nindex too!\n\nBut I partially agree: I often wish I could grep something that was written\ndown.\n\n\nwhat if they need to re-install? The idea of a backup still holds- if\nthe original disk goes bad, they're out of luck for about 1-2 weeks, which\nis the usual turn around time for a company to send a new set of disks-\nif they'll do it without a charge.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n   I guess I would react rather strongly to this line of thinking carried \nout!  When you think \"your army\" is stronger than \"mine\", you would \n\"righteously\" take my children and baptize them, doing what you know is \nreally \"best\" for them.\n   You cannot possibly put this kind of action, nor the crusades into the \ncontext of the teachings of Jesus\/God.  I think he advocated a different \napproach that was *by design* made to be appealing, to those called by him, \nnot chosen by a church practice.\n   It seems to me you have the cause and effect switched, the change comes \nand then you get baptized.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\ni also noticed this was out.  the readme that comes with it\ndoesn't tell you squat, except to warn you that bad things may\nhappen.  anyone have any idea what these can do for me in terms \nof, say, performance ?","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nThe peaceful attempt to serve the warrant was met with gunfire. Due process\nwas not served because the Branch Davidians wanted it that way.\n\n*You* think on that.\n\n\n--\n\"Milk is for babies; when you're a man, you drink beer\" - Arnold","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
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{"text":"+> \n+> Waving at other bikers makes more sense than just \"Hey, how's it going, \n+>nice to meet you on the road, have a good ride\"\n+> \n+> 2) It keeps you in the habit of watching really carefully for bikes when \n+>you're IN a cage. This is a Good Thing. \n+\n+Has anyone, while driving a cage, ever waved at bikers? I get the urge,\n+but I've never actually done it.\n\nI've had people in cages wave at me or give me the thumbs up on\noccassion.  (I always return the wave or thumbs up).  That never\nhappened to me until I started riding Harleys, so that may have\nsomething to do with it.\n\nWhy not try waving?  What bad could happen?\n____________________________________________________________________________\n\t\tRussian Roulette is fun 5 times out of 6","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nWell, I agree.  I hope others chime in with suggestions on specific\ntechnologies which could be applied towards the maintenance of an\nEarth like atmosphere on a long-duration spacecraft.\n\nTim et al:\nI think we should try looking at atmosphere first.\nThis seems to be the single most fundamental issue in keeping anyone alive.\nWe're all taught that when supporting a patient\nyou look for maintaining airway. So, in keeping with my trauma training\n(and keeping my emergency medicine professor happy), I suggest that\nwe look at the issues surrounding a regenerable atmospheric circuit.\n\nHowz that Tim?","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nWell, I think you might want to visit a doctor who is familiar with\nsleep disturbances, because antihistamines only help induce sleep when\nthey're used intermittently; they lose their sedative effect if they're\nused on a nightly basis.  Their anticholinergic effects (drying of secretions,\nrelaxing effects on smooth muscle) can be problematic in some people, such as\nthose with glaucoma or prostate enlargement.\n\nAntihistamines like diphenhydramine (Benadryl) or doxylamine (Unisom)\nare potent sedatives which are useful occasionally.  Chlorpheniramine\n(Chlor-Trimeton) is said to be less sedative, but 8mg seems to work\nwell in some people.  Both chlorpheniramine and doxylamine have long\nhalf-lives compared to diphenhydramine, and so may produce a residual\nhangover or \"drugged\" feeling the next morning.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n   > \n   > Bull shit. There is no reason in the world why we can't say that\n   > taking views analogous to the KKK's or some such organization is\n   > wrong. There is no reason why some morality may not be legislated. As\n   > it is we do not allow theft, or murder, or rape. Why should we allow\n   > hateful sppech whose only purpose is to stir anger and violence.\n   > \n   > Harry.\n\n\t   Actually, You're wrong as well. The KKK is allowed to\n   march and any attempts to curtail their freedom is rejected\n   (Actually I believe the ACLU won a case for them last year). \n\t   Morality should not be legilated in a free country like\n   the U.S. \n\nYes. That seems to be the problem. Even Germany now has laws for its\nmilitary where soldiers are *required* to disobey orders if they\nbelieve the orders are morally incorrect.\n\nNaziism is prohibited in Canada, Germany (others?). How pray tell is\nCanda any less free than the US?\n\n\t   I'll post something on TJ and Uva under Uva for those\n   Hoos bashers.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"psionic@wam.umd.edu, whose parenthesized name is either an unfortunate\ncoincidence or casts serious doubt on his bona fides, posts a message in\nwhich he seems willing to take the word of a private firm about which he\nknows little that their new encryption algorithm is secure and contains no\ntrapdoors, while seemingly distrusting that of the government about clipper.\n\nI suppose it depends on how paranoid one wishes to be, but how does the\nwriter know the firm isn't, for example, an NSA front? For purposes of this\nmessage, how do we know \"psionic\" isn't?\n\nI don't suggest that, but post this to point out that there is a class of\nspeculation that has no more truth value, without lots of hard evidence,\nthan the contrary one.\n\nBy the way, if \"psionic\" had said, in lower case letters, that the firm\nCLAIMS there was no back door, I'd have no problem with that phrasing.\n\nDavid","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Hi folks,\n\nI'm trying to compile xfig 2.1.7 on a SS1+ running SunOS 4.1.1 and OW 2.0,\nand I'm having a little trouble with make\/imake.  Specifically, make bombs\nwhen it needs to use any Xaw file.  This isn't surprising since X11 files\non Suns with the standard OW 2.0 distribution are in various places under\n\/usr\/openwin (Xaw files are in \/usr\/openwin\/share\/include\/X11\/Xaw !!)\nActually, the real problem is that I know squat about imake, and I don't\nknow how to tell imake where the X11 files are.  I can see from the \nMakefile that it's looking in the wrong places, but the first line of the \nMakefile reads \n\n   # Makefile generated by imake - do not edit!\n\nHelp!  Is there some way I can edit the Imakefile to tell it where to\nlook?  (I have set DEFINES = -DOPENWIN_BUG, as it said to in the README\nfile.)\n\nEmail and post are both fine.\n\nThanks in advance,","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Interesting delema for all those out there.\nMy school is discussing installing a Mac lab of 10 to 15 stations for our Bio\n100 to 103 classes to do a study with pig disections.  (no joke)  Here is the\ndeal. We can get this grant to do a study on if it is more feasible to do a\ndisection via the computer or via the real thing.  My problem is I was somehow\ndrawn into this project (being done by students who want to go Mac but know\nNADA about them, being the man mac man on campus, guess who they came to?) so I\nwnt to know what would probably be the best hardware to fill the follwoing\nlist?  Right now we are looking at the C650 8\/80 and the 2vx 5\/80 platforms.\nOk here it goes:\n\n\tWe are using cd-rom, so ought we go with the internal Apple Cd-roms\noffered as options in the 650 and vx or go external. It is a matter of price\nand reliability, the second being VERY important.\n\tHow much RAM?  I was thinking 5-8 more leaning towards 8?  What do you\nthink?\n\tOk, called apple educational discounts and they said their keyboard\n(extended) is 160.30. Is it better to go with the Apple and their long time\ngreat wear and tear record, or is there a 3rd party extended keyboard that is\njust a reliable?  Price?\n\tPrinters:  One color printer we are presently leaning towrds the\nThermal Wax Tektronic 200e or 200i (Probably the e as we are going to limit\naccess so we don't needed the i's networkability)  So, what do you think in\nterms of color printers?  Different brand?  Kind (Dye Sublimation?  Ink Jet?) \nPrice? Companies?  1800 #s?  Also, we are looking to get a laser printer or\nsuch to network into the whole lab for noraml printing.  The fornt runner is\nthe Apple Pro650 (is that right don't have my notes here?) at 1650. \nSuggestions?  We have kids using these things all day if this lab goes through\nand they know nothing about it for the most part. It has to be reliable, easy\nto maintain, and economical (ie, not high priced paper cartidges, etc).\n\tFinally, and this is my little dig into the Project. What about netting\nthese things?  We have ether nearby and I would like to slap the macs on the\nnet, but, server?  Individual ether?  Forget about it it is going to be\nastronomically priced and the school is going to laugh at you when you ask\nthem?\n\tLittle more info, I am a Poli Sci major who just happens to know alot\nabout macs but this is a bit out of my league, not to mention I don't have the\ntime to go and look for all of this stuff. So I am hoping the collective\nresources and intelect of the net can help (Has before) [Shameless plug: BUY\nEMPOWER!!! Great Security Program!!!]\n\tDisclaimer:  This post is not and will never be supported by my\nUniversity.  They do not condone in any way my using this media to illict info.\nThis is a proj by bio majors so they re the real persons.\n\tAnyinfo please send to the email above or to make it real clear\nrmwbb@wittenberg.edu  And damn I hope my editor is alive when I get done typing\ns there is not another stupid blank post.\n\tI reserve the right to claim all this info as mine and use it to get\neverything I want form my Universities red taped administration.  This info may\nbe used for blackmail purposes and for obtaining undo amounts of praise and god\nlike status. This info may also be used to get credits I probaly really don't\ndeserve.\n\tThat is the ned of it. Any questions?  And thanks ahead of time!!\n\nOnce again taping the collective genius of the internet,","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I have the following CD's that I'd like to sell:\n\n\tM.O.D.  \tGross Misconduct\n\tMetal Giants\t(at early metal compilation including Aerosmith,\t\t\t\tMountain, Blue Oyster Cult, Judus Priest, etc.)\n\tMetal Church \tBlessings in Disguise (excellent)\n\tSlayer \t\tHell Awaits\n\tAnthrax \tAmong the Living\n\tWhiplash\tPower and Pain\n\tDream Theater\tImages and Words (Pull me under)\n\tExodus\t\tFabulous Disaster (Heavy)\n\tDeath Angel \tThe Ultra Violence  (hard to find)\n\nAll CD's are in excellent condition (no scratches or skips).   After\nchecking several similar articles, it seems the going rate is $8.  Hence\nCD's are $8.00 postage paid.  Please e-mail me if you are interested,\nas I rarely read these groups.  I'll ship asap after receiving cash, check\nor money order.  e-mail me for my snail-mail address.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI wouldn't think so.  Asking people to trust a secret algorithm seems\nunsound to me.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"For some time I've been thinking about the possiblity of starting a group\nwhere scientific articles can be published (or perhaps just summaries).\nPossible advantages would be:\n* Free disribution\n* Fast acceptance\n* Online discussion between authers and readers\n\nThis would be possible with one group with a moderator for publishing the\narticles and one perhaps without for discussion.\n\nThe best thing would be if all the articles would be in a standard format which\nwould make it possible to print or view the documents camera ready. Perhaps\nPostscript or Rich Text Format?\n\nBut how do you start a new group? Anyone interrested?","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n   I would also be interested in the application here.  I work with a Dance and\n   Technology program, and want to build something to track dancers on a 30 foot\n   wide stage from 50 feet away.\n\n\nCould make for some interesting choreography... light and sound could be \ncontrolled directly by the position of a dancer on stage, or by the number\nof dancers on stage. Neat.\n\nYou could even build a spotlight that follows the dancer around on stage!\n\nCan you tell us more about what you're doing? Sounds like a very cool program.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I have a Powerbook 170 4\/40 that is over 1 year old with no warranty but, in\nperfect condition (with original Apple fax\/modem), that I would consider\nselling you for around a $1000.  Get back to me with what you think would be\nequitable arrangements (sp?).  Have all manuals and system disks, some software\nin boxes and loaded, but threw out the Mac packaging.\n-ts-\n\n---\n * Origin: hp NEMESIS ph (23:303\/1)","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\t\t    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\tAmazing.  And I thought only California got April.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Rejoice! The Streets of Amerika are much safer now that the Branch\nDavidians no longer have those nasty assault weapons. Your children will\nno longer lie awake at night wondering when the next Brand Davidian will\nattempt to shoot them from their rural compound. \n\n   Men, women, and children have been murdered by our great BATF, but the\ngreater good has been secured for all.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"====================================================\n       H    H      A      RRRRR    RRRRR   IIIII  SSSS\n       H    H     A A     R    R   R    R    I   S    \n       HHHHHH    AAAAA    RRRRR    RRRRR     I    SSSS\n       H    H   A     A   R    R   R    R    I        S \n       H    H  A       A  R     R  R     R IIIII  SSSS  \n     ====================================================\n\n\nHarris Semiconductor now has AnswerFAX. AnswerFAX is on-line 24 hours\na day, 7 days a week, so you can instantly receive datasheets and \napplication notes by using your touch-tone telephone and FAX machine.\nThe number to call is (407) 724-3818. (It is not set up to do international\ncalls at this time.)\n\nThe general decision tree for the AnswerFAX is as follows, the numbers are\nthe available selections:\n\n\n       Welcome to Harris Semiconductors AnswerFAX\n                           |\n        ----------------------------------------\n        |                                      |\n        1                                      2\n        |                                      |\n Select 1 if you                        Select 2 for an\n are familiar with                      explanation of\n AnswerFAX.                             AnswerFAX\n        |                                      |\n        |--------------------------------------|\n                           |\n                           |                              \n                           |\n            --------------------------------\n            |                              |\n            1                              2\n            |                              |\n     Select 1 to order              Select 2 for a\n     a document (the                list of catalogs:\n     document list is                  1  New Products\n     in the catalogs,                  2  Linear Products\n     get them first)                   3  Data Acquisition Products\n            |                          4  Digital Signal Processing Products\n            |                          5  Discrete Power and Intelligent\n            |                             Power Products\n            |                          9  Application Notes\n            |                              |\n            |                              |\n  Select appropriate document    Select Appropriate Catalog\n            |                              |\n            |                              |\n  Do you want to order           Do you want to order\n  anything else? If yes,         anything else? If yes,\n  you will be taken back         you will be taken back \n  to the selection decision.     to the selection decision.\n            |                              |\n            |                              |\n            --------------------------------\n                          |\n                          |\n                          |\n                  What is phone number\n                    for your FAX?\n                          |\n                          |\n                  What is your name?\n               (request the instructions)\n                          |\n                          |\n                         END                        \n\n\n\nBill Werner\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Can anyone around here point me to information regarding STEREOSCOPIC images?\nI believe I saw some at a show room in Texas (Lone Star Illusions)  and \nthey were amazing.  I've now heard that they were created with a simple \ngraphic program.  Does anyone have any of these images digitized??  \nI really want to find a out as much as I can..","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"1) Lucas film\n2) Pixar\n3) 3D\/Eye Inc.\n4) Light & Magic","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nTell me are you really this stupid, or are you just pretending. \n\n\nA fire insurance is not an offensive weapon.\n\n\nA spare tire is not an offensive weapon.\n\n\t\t \tHow should one deal with a man who is convinced that\n\t\t \the is acting according to God's will, and who there-\n     Jokke\t\tfore believes that he is doing you a favour by\n\t\t \tstabbing you in the back?","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"BIOLOGICAL ALCHEMY\n                          \n                        ( ANOTHER Form of COLD FUSION )\n\n               ( ALTERNATIVE Heavy Element Creation in Universe ) \n\n               A very simple experiment can demonstrate (PROVE) the \n          FACT of \"BIOLOGICAL TRANSMUTATIONS\" (reactions like Mg + O \n          --> Ca, Si + C --> Ca, K + H --> Ca, N2 --> CO, etc.), as \n          described in the BOOK \"Biological Transmutations\" by Louis \n          Kervran, [1972 Edition is BEST.], and in Chapter 17 of the \n          book \"THE SECRET LIFE OF PLANTS\" by Peter Tompkins and \n          Christopher Bird, 1973: \n\n               (1) Obtain a good sample of plant seeds, all of the same \n                   kind.  [Some kinds might work better that others.]\n\n               (2) Divide the sample into two groups of equal weight \n                   and number.\n\n               (3) Sprout one group in distilled water on filter paper \n                   for three or four weeks.\n\n               (4) Separately incinerate both groups.\n\n               (5) Weigh the residue from each group.  [The residue of \n                   the sprouted group will usually weigh at least \n                   SEVERAL PERCENT MORE than the other group.]\n\n               (6) Analyze quantitatively the residue of each group for \n                   mineral content.  [Some of the mineral atoms of the \n                   sprouted group have been TRANSMUTED into heavier \n                   mineral elements by FUSING with atoms of oxygen, \n                   hydrogen, carbon, nitrogen, etc..]\n\n          \n               BIOLOGICAL TRANSMUTATIONS occur ROUTINELY, even in our \n          own bodies. \n          \n               Ingesting a source of organic silicon (silicon with \n          carbon, such as \"horsetail\" extract, or radishes) can SPEED \n          HEALING OF BROKEN BONES via the reaction Si + C --> Ca, (much \n          faster than by merely ingesting the calcium directly).  \n          \n               Some MINERAL DEPOSITS in the ground are formed by micro-\n          organisms FUSING together atoms of silicon, carbon, nitrogen, \n          oxygen, hydrogen, etc.. \n          \n               The two reactions Si + C <--> Ca, by micro-organisms, \n          cause \"STONE SICKNESS\" in statues, building bricks, etc..  \n          \n               The reaction N2 --> CO, catalysed by very hot iron, \n          creates a CARBON-MONOXIDE POISON HAZARD for welder operators \n          and people near woodstoves (even properly sealed ones). \n          \n               Some bacteria can even NEUTRALIZE RADIOACTIVITY! \n          \n\n               ALL OF THESE THINGS AND MORE HAPPEN, IN SPITE OF the \n          currently accepted \"laws\" of physics, (including the law \n          which says that atomic fusion requires EXTREMELY HIGH \n          temperatures and pressures.) \n\n\n\n          \"BIOLOGICAL TRANSMUTATIONS, And Their Applications In \n               CHEMISTRY, PHYSICS, BIOLOGY, ECOLOGY, MEDICINE, \n               NUTRITION, AGRIGULTURE, GEOLOGY\", \n          1st Edition, \n          by C. Louis Kervran, Active Member of New York Academy of \n               Science, \n          1972, \n          163 Pages, Illustrated, \n          Swan House Publishing Co.,\n               P.O. Box 638, \n               Binghamton, NY  13902 \n\n          \n          \"THE SECRET LIFE OF PLANTS\", \n          by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird, \n          1973, \n          402 Pages, \n          Harper & Row, \n               New York\n          [Chapters 19 and 20 are about \"RADIONICS\".  Entire book is \n               FASCINATING! ]\n          \n\n               For more information, answers to your questions, etc., \n          please consult my CITED SOURCES (the two books). \n\n\n\n               UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this \n          IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED. \n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Someone please help me. I am searching to find out (as many others may)\nan absolute 'cure' to removing all detectable traces of marijuana from\na persons body. Is there a chemical or natural substance that can be\ningested or added to urine to make it undetectable in urine analysis.\nIf so where can these substances be found. \n\n            If you know this information, please Email me directly\n             \n                Thank You Kindly for your support,\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I just got a copy of spice 5.2. I would like to know if there are\nany published books on the market yet and where I could get one. I would\nappreciate any help. Thank You","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\tRemember me, Tom?  I hope you'll respond, and I seem to\nbe a Voice of Reason or some such (I've been recieving fan mail,\nso naturally my ego is somehwat inflated of late), and hope to\nmake a few points here.\n\n\n\tAnd our argument is that you cannot remove them from the people\nwho need restricting and not remove them from the people who don't.  A\nfairly simple problem, given our size and numbers.  Do you agree?  We\nall believe criminals, particularly violent criminals, should not have\nfirearms.  The problem is making a law that does this without trodding\nupon the rights of the vast majority.  Nobody here seems to be able to\ndo it, and I doubt anybody in Norway can either.  Thus, we are left with\na philosophical difference: does the safety of a few justify restricting\nthe many?  We say \"no,\" while others say \"yes.\"\n\n\n\tCan you provide a method that cannot be abused?  I doubt it.\n\n\n\tOf course.  This is not in contention.  What is in contention\nis how much one has to pay.\n\n\n\tIt is this \"giving a little\" that makes Americans wary...\nWe have seen this argument before.  You might remember how a\nChamberlain \"gave a little\" to a particular fascist\/short asshole,\nand how such \"appeasement\" worked.  While it might work in some\ninstances, it doesn't work in others, and since we cannot predict\nthe future we must be cautious in using actions that have a\nhistory of failure.\n\n\n\tCars are not essential in Norway any more than they are in\nthe USA.  I'm willing to bet that you have neighbors that would be\nwilling to drive you anywhere you wanted to go for a price.  Thus,\ncars are not essential for your transportation.  However, the\narguments presented show that, since cars are used to kill far more\npeople than guns in the USA, it makes much more sense to restrict\ncars than it does guns.  How one defines \"essential\" often depends\nupon what one is willing to go through for that service.  When we\nlook at the raw data, such comparisons are not individually weighed.\n\n\n\tThis depends upon what the populace was willing to do.  As\nDesert Storm proved, even an armed populace won't just revolt even\nwhen given a chance.  Still, would Hitler have done all that he did\nwith an armed populace?  We have to wonder, as some of his first\nacts were to confiscate firearms.  Other points in history show\nthat dictators were overthrown by arms in the hands of the populace.\nThus, we're left wondering if Hitler would have been overthrown\nor if King George was just unlucky in keeping the USA as a colony.\nOne can argue both sides; one also has to live with each action.\n\n\n\tIt is about #2, but so far all proposals to curtail #2 have\nwound up enforcing #1 as well.  I only wish that \"or\" was so logical.\n\n\n\tThat was, on my part, purely in jest.  I merely pointed out\nhow we were from similar backgrounds racially, but of wholly different\nbackgrounds politically.  I thought this would underscore my point on\nhow our cultures were so different despite similar heritage.\n\n\n\tBATF can *only* enforce gun\/tobaccco\/alcohol violations.  Child\nabuse is a matter for the individual states and local authorities.\n\n\n\tThat hierarchy is a paid-for feed at many sites.  Most people do\nnot get it for this reason, and I suspect money, not censorship, is the\nmain reason.  Do you get alt.sex* at your site?  I can't read it here\nbecause of censorship and legal fears, so again our differences show.\nYou have topless sunbathing, and in the USA we can watch a murder every\nfifteen seconds and yet breasts are forbidden on television.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Sorry if this is a FAQ but :\n\n    \"Where can I get a 286 (16 bit) version of POV-Ray ? \"\n\nAny help would be greatly appreciated.\n\nI need the 286 version since Turbo Pascal won't let me run a 32 bit\nprogram from within my program.  Any info on this would also be a\ngreat help.\n\n                                Thanks,\n\n                                    Byron.\n\nbkidd@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au\nB.Kidd@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au\n-- \n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I'm trying to compile xftp which uses the Xw widget set and I'm having\nproblems.  We're using Motif and X11R5 and it seems that my version of the\nXw stuff was only ported to R3.  Are there patches out to port this to R5\n(or a newer port altogether)??\n\nOr perhaps a newer port of xftp for use with R5??\nThanks in advance.\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"The White House\n\n\n                  Office of the Press Secretary\n\n---------------------------------------------------------------\nFor Immediate Release                             April 23, 1993\n\n\n\n                     Background Information:\n\n                    Advancing U.S. Relations \n        with Russia and the other New Independent States \n\n                         April 23, 1993\n\n\nAt the Vancouver summit, President Clinton and President Yeltsin \nagreed to pursue a number of measures designed to implement an \neconomic and strategic partnership between the U.S. and Russia.  \nSince then, President Clinton has directed that a number of steps \nbe taken to move this process forward.  The Administration is \nannouncing a number of steps today in order to underscore its \ndeep commitment to a new and closer partnership with Russia based \non its government's commitment to reform.\n\n\nExecutive Review of Cold War Laws\n\nPresident Clinton and President Yeltsin discussed the \ndesirability of reviewing and updating U.S. laws and regulations \nto reflect the end of the Cold War.  Congress has already acted \nto revise many laws to reflect the fact that a communist Soviet \nUnion has been replaced by a democratic Russia and other \nindependent states.  However, many laws and regulations remain \nthat contain language and restrictions that fail to reflect the \nend of the Cold War and that unnecessarily undermine relations \nwith Russia and the other new independent states.\n\nThe President today has ordered an Executive review of laws and \nregulations so that, where appropriate and consistent with U.S. \nsecurity and other national interests, such provisions can be \nrevised or removed.  He has asked Ambassador-at-large Strobe \nTalbott to coordinate this review on an expedited basis.  The \nPresident has indicated that he will welcome congressional \nefforts to help this review proceed as quickly as possible.\n\nThis review will weigh all considerations that pertain to \nrevision of such provisions, and the initiation of the review may \nhelp to remedy some of the circumstances that have justified such \nprovisions in the past.  For example, because the Russians are \neager to have their status changed under the Jackson-Vanik \nlegislation, President Yeltsin personally assured President \nClinton in Vancouver that he would look into individual cases \ninvolving continuing restrictions on emigration from Russia.  By \naddressing such issues, this review can help strengthen the bonds \nof trust and partnership between the U.S. and Russia, and between\nthe U.S. and the other new independent states.\n\n\nReview of COCOM\n\nIt is also time to consider expeditiously with America's allies \nthe future of another Cold War institution -- the Coordinating \nCommittee for Multilateral Export Controls (COCOM).  The United \nStates has begun a thorough review of how to reorient export \ncontrols to the post-Cold War world, in which Russia is no longer \nviewed as a potential adversary, but as a potential ally in \ncombatting the proliferation of sensitive technology.\n\nSteps to Improve the Security Relationship\n\nThe President also has taken steps to move ahead on a range of \nefforts discussed in Vancouver that can strengthen U.S. security \nand improve our security relationship with the Russians and the \nother states.\n\n\nAccelerated Deactivation of Nuclear Weapons\n\nIn Vancouver, the two Presidents discussed accelerating the \nprocess of deactivating nuclear strategic systems scheduled for \nelimination under the START I Treaty.  President Clinton has \ndirected the Department of Defense to complete this process well \nin advance of the seven year reduction period outlined in START \nI.  In addition, the United States, together with Russia and the \nother relevant states of the former Soviet Union, will be \nexploring programs under Nunn-Lugar to help them to accelerate \nthis process.\n\n\nMultilateral Test Ban\n\nThe two Presidents agreed at Vancouver that negotiations on a \nmultilateral nuclear test ban should commence at an early date, \nand that the two governments would consult with each other \naccordingly.  The United States looks forward to beginning \nconsultations with Russia, our allies, and other states, on the \nspecific issues related to this negotiation.  The United States \nexpects to start this consultative process within the next two \nmonths.    \n\n\nDetargeting\n\nThe two Presidents also began a dialogue on the issue of nuclear \ntargeting at Vancouver.  As the United States and Russia move \ninto a new relationship of strategic partnership, there is a need \nto reexamine many of the assumptions and means employed in the \npast to safeguard U.S. security against a nuclear adversary.  The \nAdministration is beginning a comprehensive review of measures \nthat could enhance strategic stability, including recent \nproposals for detargeting nuclear missiles.   \n\nOther Measures to Create a New Security Relationship\n\nIn response to the incident involving a collision between US and \nRussian submarines last month, Secretary Aspin will be ready to \ndiscuss ways to avoid such incidents in the future with Russian \nDefense Minister Grachev during his visit to the United States in \nlate May.\n\nSecretary Aspin will also be prepared to move forward with \nDefense Minister Grachev in May to develop a combined training \nprogram between our two military forces and to prepare for joint \nexercises in peacekeeping, such as that authorized by the UN \nSecurity Council.  The United States looks forward to broadening \nsuch training and exercises to include other peacekeeping \ncontributors, in order to improve inter-operability, readiness, \nand planning for multilateral peacekeeping operations.  The US \nand Russia are working together to convene a May Ministerial \nMeeting of the UN Security Council to discuss proposals for \nenhancing the UN's peacekeeping capability and to move \nconsideration of the Secretary-General's Agenda for Peace from \nthe discussion to the implementation phase.  The U.S. is also \nworking with the Russians to focus specifically on improvements \nin the financing and management of UN operations.  The purpose of \nthese initiatives will be to cooperate on peacekeeping for our \nparticipation in UN or CSCE sponsored actions.\n\n\nMultilateral and Bilateral Partnership with Reform\n\nFinally, the Administration continues to move ahead on a range of \ninitiatives aimed at striking a partnership with economic and \npolitical reformers throughout Russia and the other states.  The \nAdministration is continuing work with our G-7 partners to \nassemble the package of multilateral assistance that Secretaries \nBentsen and Christopher recently negotiated in Tokyo.  And the \nAdministration is continuing consultation with Congress over the \nfurther efforts the U.S. will take to assist the process of \nreform in Russia and the other states.\n\n                           *    *    *\n\nThe Administration believes these steps can increase American \nsecurity while improving the relationship between the U.S. and \nRussia, and between the U.S. and the other new independent \nstates.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nYes I have written something that creates meshed fractal terrain\nsurfaces for exactly the purpose you require, importing into 3D\nmodelling packages. Be warned, the data content is high and brings\nmany packages to their knees. We use it primarily for MicroStation\nbut it exports DXF, as well as other formats, so you should be OK.\nYou can get it from my FTP mirror site in the US.\nIt is\n   wuarchive.wustl.edu\nmy stuff is located in the\n   mirrors\/architec\ndirectory. Please FTP the README file first.\n\n-- \nPaul D Bourke                       School of Architecture, Property, Planning\npdbourke@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz        The University of Auckland\nPh:   +64 -9 373 7999 x7367         Private Bag 92019\nFax:  +64 -9 373 7410               Auckland, New Zealand","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nIt is 'Serdar', 'kocaoglan'.\n\n\nJust say so.\n\n The SUNDAY TIMES 8 March 1992\n Morgues fill as Azeris head for all-out war\n -------------------------------------------\n Thomas Goltz, the first to report the massacre by Armenian soldiers in\n the worst violence since the breakup of the Soviet Union, reports from\n Agdam\n ------\n Khojaly used to be a barren town, with empty shops and treeless dirt\n roads. Yet it was still home to thousands of people who, in happier\n times, tended fields and flocks of geese. Last week it was wiped off\n the map.\n .......\n As sickening reports trickled in to the Azerbaijani border town of\n Agdam, and the bodies piled up in the morgues, there was little doubt\n that Khojaly and the stark foothills and gullies around it had been\n the site of the most terrible massacre since the Soviet Union broke\n apart.\n .......\n I was the last Westerner to visit Khojaly. That was in january and\n people were predicting their fate with grim resignation. Zumrut Ezoya,\n a mother of four on board the helicopter that ferried us into the\n town, called her community \"sitting ducks, ready to get shot\". She and\n her family were among the victims of the massacre on February 26.\n .......\n \"The Armenians have taken all the outlying villages, one by one, and\n the government does nothing.\" Balakisi Sakikov, 55, a father of five,\n said. \"Next they will drive us out or kill us all,\" said Dilbar, his\n wife. The couple, their three sons and three daughters were killed in\n the assault, as were many other people I had spoken to.\n ......\n \"It was close to the Armenian lines we knew we would have to cross.\n There was a road, and the first units of the column ran across then\n all hell broke loose. Bullets were raining down from all sides. we had\n just entered their trap.\"\n The azeri defenders picked off one by one. Survivors say that Armenian\n forces then began a pitiless slaughter, firing at anything moved in\n the gullies. A video taken by an azeri cameraman, wailing and crying\n as he filmed body after body, showed a grizzly trail of death leading\n towards higher, forested ground where the villagers had sought refuge\n from the Armenians.\n \"The Armenians just shot and shot and shot,\" said Omar Veyselov, lying\n in hospital in Agdam with sharapnel wounds. \"I saw my wife and\n daughter fall right by me.\"\n People wandered through the hospital corridors looking for news of the\n loved ones. Some vented their fury on foreigners: \" Where is my\n daughter, where is my son ?\" wailed a mother. \"Raped. Butchered. Lost.\"\n Azerbaijan has said as many as 1,000 refugees were killed as they\n tried to flee. The Armenians have denied this, saying the civilians\n were caught in \"crossfire\".\n .......\n\n\nAre you idiot for real?\n\n     'After all, who remembers today the extermination of the Tartars?'\n      (Adolf Hitler, August 22, 1939: Ruth W. Rosenbaum (Durusoy), \n          \"The Turkish Holocaust - Turk Soykirimi\", p. 213.)\n\n\nYou must be the only moronian left on the net to believe those \nASALA\/SDPA\/ARF forgeries. What a clown...\n\n\n                    'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them and in \n                     whatever circumstances you find them. Turkish children \n                     also should be killed as they form a danger to the \n                     Armenian nation.' (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)[1]\n\n [1] M. Varandian, \"History of the Dashnaktsutiun,\" p. 85.\n\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"FULL 1993 CALDER CUP PLAYOFF SCHEDULE AND RESULTS\t\nhome team in CAPS\t\t*=if necesary\n\nFIRST ROUND\t\t\t\t\t\nSpringfield Indians vs Providence Bruins\nGm 1:\tSpringfield 3\tPROVIDENCE 2\t\nGm 2:\tSpringfield 5\tPROVIDENCE 4\nGm 3:\tProvidence 3\tSPRINGFIELD 2\nGm 4:\tProvidence 9\tSPRINGFIELD 0\t\t\nGm 5:\tSpringfield 4\tPROVIDENCE 2\nGm 6:\t4\/24\tProvidence at Springfield\t\nGm 7:\t4\/27\tSpringfield at Providence\t*\n\nCD Islanders vs Adirondack Red Wings\nGm 1:\tADIRONDACK 6\tCDI 2\nGm 2:\tADIRONDACK 5\tCDI 3\nGm 3:\tAdirondack 3\tCDI 0\nGm 4:\tAdirondack 3\tCDI 1\n(ADIRONDACK WINS SERIES, 4-0)\n\nBaltimore Skipjacks at Binghamton Rangers\nGm 1:\tBaltimore 4\tBINGHAMTON 3\t\nGm 2:\tBINGHAMTON 6\tBaltimore 2\nGm 3:\tBinghamton 8\tBALTIMORE 3\nGm 4:\t4\/24\tBinghamton at Baltimore\nGm 5:\t4\/26\tBaltimore at Binghamton\t\nGm 6:\t4\/28\tBinghmaton at Baltimore\t*\nGm 7:\t4\/30\tBaltimore at Binghamton\t*\n\t\t\nUtica Devils vs Rochester Americans\nGm 1:\tUtica 3\t\tROCHESTER 2\t(OT)\nGm 2:\tROCHESTER 9\tUtica 3\nGm 3:\tRochester 6\tUTICA 4\nGm 4:\tRochester 4\tUTICA 3\t\t(OT)\nGm 5:\t4\/24\tUtica at Rochester\t\nGm 6:\t4\/26\tRochester at Utica\t*\nGm 7:\t4\/28\tUtica at Rochester\t*\n\nMoncton Hawks vs St John's Maple Leafs\nGm 1:\tSt JOHN'S 4\tMoncton 2\t(at Halifax)\nGm 2:\tST JOHN'S 3\tMoncton 2\t(at Halifax)\nGm 3:\tSt John's 6\tMONCTON 5\nGm 4:\tMONCTON 5\tSt John's 4\t(OT)\nGm 5:\t4\/26\tMoncton vs St John's at Halifax\t\nGm 6:\t4\/28\tSt John's at Moncton\t\t*\nGm 7:\t4\/30\tMoncton vs St John's at Halifax\t*\n\nCape Breton Oilers vs Fredericton Canadiens\nGm 1:\tFREDERICTON 4\tCape Breton 3\t(2OT)\nGm 2:\tCape Breton 5\tFREDERICTON 2\nGm 3:\tCAPE BRETON 3\tFredericton 0\t\nGm 4:\tCAPE BRETON 6\tFredericton 5 \t(OT)\nGm 5:\t4\/24\tCape Breton at Fredericton\t\nGm 6:\t4\/26\tFredericton at Cape Breton\t*\nGm 7:\t4\/28\tCape Breton at Fredericton\t*\n(note about this series: the AP reports that CB has won this\n series 4-1, but in the original schedule, Game 5 wasn't supposed\n to be until tonight and I only have the Oilers as being up 3-1)","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"A friend of mine needs spec for a used hard drive he just got:\nIt is a Western Digital, IDE, 340 meg\nwith 1010 cylinders and 12 heads.  We believe the model number is\nwd2340A, but we can't be sure.  It is a 12 ms, 3.5\" model.\n\nAny info would be appreciated, either from somone who knows, or maybe\nwestern digitals phone number","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"+>[My problem] turned out to be a screw unscrewed inside my Mikuni HS40 \n+>carb.  I keep hearing that one should keep all of the screws\n+>tight on a bike, but I never thought that I had to do that\n+>on the screws inside of a carb.  At least it was roadside\n+>fixable and I was on my way in hardly any time.\n+\n+Gee, I always figured that it was the loose screws on\/in the _rider_\n+that were most likely to cause any problems.  Did you check for that\n+at the same time?\n\nThat is very true.  However, screws have been loose on this rider\nfor quite some time, so they had been taken into account.\n____________________________________________________________________________\n\t\tRussian Roulette is fun 5 out of 6 times","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Resinfo (research and information) is currently seeking contact\n_IN_ the United Kingdom with researchers of 'phenylanine', or is\nthis amino acid uninspiring?","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nNow, almost 100 years later, we have the right words for the problem here.\n\nPhone calls are \"virtual visits\".  Those experienced in virtual reality\nwould know from that title that phone calls need to have all the properties\nof a walk in the park with your friend -- security from casual overhearing\nand easy verification to see if anyone is listening secretively.  As designed,\nthey fail at that.\n\n..trouble is, telephones were invented a long time ago and people didn't\nrealize the danger or the concept of virtual reality back then.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\"Liberate\" is the way an invader describes an invasion, including, if\nI'm not mistaken, the Iraqi liberation of Kuwait.  Never invaded\nNicaragua?  Only with more word games: can you say \"send in the\nMarines?\"  \n\n\nOh, good: word games.  If you let the aggressor pick the words,\nthere's scarcely ever been a reprehensible military action.\n\n\n\nThat's a convenient technique, much seen on alt.atheism: define those\nwho disagree with you according to a straw-man extreme that matches\nvirtually nobody.\n\n\nVery noble and patriotic.  I'm sure the fine young Americans who\ncarpet-bombed Iraqi infantry positions from over the horizon,\ndestroyed Iraq's sewer and water infrastructure from the safety of the\nsky or further, or who bulldozed other Iraqi infantry into their\ntrenches [or more importantly the commanders who ordered them to] were\njust thrilled to be risking death (if not risking it by much) in the\ndefense of the liberty of ... well, wealthy Kuwaitis.  Can't have\nthose oil-fields under a tyrant's heel if that tyrant is antagonistic\nto US interests... \n\n\nHaving pigeon-holed \"peace-niks\" (in this context, \"people who\ndisagree with me about the conduct of the Gulf War\") into\n\"peace-at-all-cost-hitler-supporting-genocide-abetting-wimps\", you can\nnow express righteous indignation when \"they\" refuse to fit this mold\nand question the conduct of the war on legitimate terms.  HOW DARE\nTHEY!\n\n\nYes, hypocrisy indeed!  Those violent peace-niks!  (Care to list an\nexample here?)\n\n\nWow: instant '80's nostalgia!  [Of course, \"peace-nik\" itself is a\n'50's Cold War derogatory term equating those who promote pacifism\nwith Godless Pinko Communists].  Yes indeed, I felt my freedoms\nmightily threatened by Iraq... ","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nPoint 1:\n\nI'm beginning to see that *part* of the disagreements about the whole\n\"yeast issue\" is on differing perceptions and on differing meanings\nof words.  Medical doctors have a very specific and specialized \"jargon\",\nnecessary for precise communication within their field (which I'm fully\ncognizant of since I, too, speak \"jargonese\" when with my peers).  For the\nsituation in sci.med, many times the words or phrases used by doctors can\nhave a different and more specific meaning than the same word used in the\nworld at large, causing significant miscommunication.  One example word,\nand very relevant to the yeast discussion, is the exact meaning of \"systemic\".\nIt is now obvious to me that the meaning of this word is very specific, much\nmore so than its meaning to a non-doctor.  There is also the observation of\nthis newsgroup that both doctors and non-doctors come together on essentially\nequal terms, which, when combined with the jargon issue, can further fan\nthe flames.  This is probably the first time that practicing doctors get\nreally \"beat up\" by non-doctors for their views on medicine, which they\notherwise don't see much of in their practice except for the occasional\n\"difficult\" patient.\n\nPoint 2:\n\nI understand the viewpoint among many practicing doctors that they will not\nprescribe any treatments\/therapies for their patients unless such treatments\nhave been shown to be effective and the risks understood from well-constructed\nclinical trials (usually double-blind), or that such treatments\/therapies are\npart of an approved and funded clinical trial.  To these doctors, to do any\ndifferently would, in this belief system, be unethical practice.  And it\nfollows that any therapy not on the \"accepted\" list is therefore a non-\ntherapy - it does not even exist, nor does the underlying hypothesis or\ntheory have any validity, even if it sounds very plausible by extrapolation\nof what is currently known.  Anecdotal evidence has no value, either, from\na treatment point-of-view.\n\nAnd by and large, as a scientist myself, I am glad that medical practice\/\nscience takes such a rigorous approach to medical treatment.  However, as\nalso being a human being (last I checked), and having been one of those people\nthat has been significantly helped by a currently unaccepted treatment, where\n\"standard\" medicine was not able to help me, has caused me to sit back and\nwonder if holding such an extreme and rigid \"scientific\" viewpoint is in\nitself unethical from humanitarian considerations.  After all, the underlying\nintent of the \"scientific\" approach to medicine is to protect the health of\nthe patient by providing the best possible care for the patient, so the\npatient should come first when considering treatment.\n\nWhat we need is a slightly modified approach to treatment that satisfies both\nthe \"scientific\" and the \"humanitarian\" viewpoints.  In an earlier post I\noutlined a crazy idea for doing just that.  The gist of it was to give any\nphysician freedom and encouragement by the medical community to prescribe\nalternate, not yet proven therapies (maybe supported by anecdotal evidence)\nfor patients who *all* avenues of accepted therapies have been exhausted\n(and not until then).  The patient would be fully informed that such\ntherapies\/treatments are not supported by the proper clinical trials and that\nthere are real potential risks with real possibilities of no benefit derived\nfrom them.\n\nThis approach satisfies the need for scientific rigor.  It also satisfies\nthe humanitarian needs of the patient.  And the reality is that many patients\nwho have reached a dead-end in the treatment of their symptoms using accepted\nmedicine *will* go outside the orthodox medical community:  either to the\ndoctors who are brave enough to prescribe such treatments at the risk of losing\ntheir license, or worse, to non-doctors who have not had the proper medical\ntraining.  This approach also recognizes this reality and keeps the control\nmore within orthodox medicine, with the benefits that the information gleaned\ncould help focus limited resources towards future clinical trials in the most\nproductive way.  Everybody wins in this admittedly rose-colored approach - I'm\nsure there are real problems with this approach as well - it is presented\nmore as a strawman to stimulate discussion.\n\nHopefully what I write here may give the sci.med doctors a better idea as to\nwhy I am \"open\" to alternative therapies, as well as why I have real\ndifficulty (read \"apparent hostility\") with the \"coldness\" of the 99.9% pure\n\"scientific\" approach to medicine.  I believe the best approach to medical\ntreatment is one where both the \"humanitarian\" aspects are balanced with and\nby the \"scientific\" aspects.  Anything else is just not good medicine, imho.\nJust my 'NF' leanings, I guess.  :^)\n\nComments?\n\nJon Noring\n\n-- \n\nCharter Member --->>>  INFJ Club.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":" \nSorry Charles...According to the National Safety Council, ACCIDENT FACTS,1991\n\"In 1990, gun accidents were the fifth-leading cause of accidental death\nfor children ages 14 and under.\"\n \n That thinking is so screwed up, I don't even know how to respond to it.\nA rational person would concentrate on motor vehicle deaths, and not attempt\nto affect childhood falls, drownings, gunshot injuries, etc.????????????????\nSo this so called rational person, (using your definition), if he or she\nwere attempting to affect the leading causes of deaths for adults aged 25\nthrough 64 would only worry about cancer, and would not try to decrease\nLESSER CAUSES such as heart disease, injuries, stroke, suicide, liver disease,\nchronic lung disease, homicide, HIV infection, or diabetes.  Oh, okay Charles,\nthat makes a lot of sense.  I tell you what Charles, I'll call the Heart\nFoundation and suicide hotlines and tell them that they are not acting rational\nand that they can all go home because they are addressing the LESSER CAUSES\nof death.  And you call your local police homicide department, liver foundation\nand diabetes foundation and tell them to stop addressing these lesser causes.\nPlease, quit wasting my time with this silly shit Charles.\n \nI've got an idea Charles, why don't you start a talk.politics.caraccidents\ngroup or talk.politics.fall group?  This is talk.politics.guns.  Don't\nconfuse the issue.  Just because a social problem may not claim as many\nvictims as another, we should not try to address it?  I don't agree.\nI'm not posting to t.p.g to debate the supposed severity of causes of\nchildhood deaths. I am really getting frigging sick of having to respond\nto the irrational statements of people who assume that someone who\nwants to discuss youth gun violence or unintentional youth gun deaths\nis trying to make a political issue out of it.\n \n \n Again Charles, you tend to confuse the issue and take things out of context\nfor your own purposes.  The statement that you responded to above is actually\nin reference to a previous post by another person who, like you, expressed\nconcern over making youth gun violence a priority.  I guess, maybe Humane\nperson and Rational person could be interchangeable huh? Both would be defined\nas \"a person who only addresses the social problem that causes the greatest\nnumber of childhood deaths.\"  If that is the case, I'm extremely glad that I\nam inhumane and irrational.\n \nSorry Charles, the FBI Uniform Crime Report is WELL known for misrepresenting\nthe facts.  But if you insist, according to the 1990 UCR, \"Firearm murders\nof youngsters 19 and under increased 125 percent between 1984 and 1990\"\n \nIs the National Center for Health Statistics good enough for you?  They state\nthat \"Every day, 12 American children ages 19 and under are killed in gun\naccidents, suicides, and homicides.  Many more are wounded\".\n \nOr how about the National Pediatric Trauma Registry?  They say \"Gunshot\nwounds to children ages 16 and under nearly doubled in major urban areas\nbetween 1987 and 1990.\"\n \nDo you also doubt the American Academy of Pediatrics Charles???  They state\nthat \"Gunshot wounds among children in urban areas increased 300% from\n1986 to 1988.\"\n \nCharles, I hope you don't need to be convinced that youth are increasingly\nvictims of gun injuries and that they have easy access to guns.  If you don't\nrealize this fact, (I don't care if you go by CDC or FBI data, or if you go\ninto the homes, schools, and streets where these kids are and take a poll\nby yourself), I'm not going to bother to try to convince you.  Its obvious\nthat you have ruled out any idea of discussing this issue in a sane fashion\nand that you are so focused on trying to make this a gun control and political\ndiscussion.  I really don't want to do that.\n \n Charles, it's obvious that you know nothing about the CDC.\nThey don't just study cancer and heart disease.  I've got news for you,\ninterpersonal gun violence IS an epidemic.  In 1984, Surgeon General\nC. Everett Koop declared that gun violence is as much a public health\nproblem as cancer, heart disease, or auto accidents.\n \n \nWHO THE F**K SAID ANYTHING ABOUT TEACHING CHILDREN TO SAFELY HANDLE\nFIREARM CHARLES??? In the future, if you are going to post to t.p.g and jump\ninto a previous discussion, please read the entire posting, not just 1\nsentence that you decide to respond to. What the hell are you saying here???\nYou're wasting time and space trying to make a political and gun control\nissue out of a discussion that isn't.\nCharles buddy, I'm getting really tired of this.  Do you live on the planet\nMars???  As a physicist, I realize that you probably don't come into contact\nwith many youth, but I REALLY think you need to make a trip to your local\nurban high school and discover the joy of guns in schools.  In addition\nspend a few minutes talking to these kids.  Ask them if they have ever heard\ngunshots in their neighborhoods, whether they know anyone who has been shot,\nwhether they know anyone who has a gun, whether they have ever held a gun, and\nwhether they themselves have ever been shot.\n \nBelieve me Charles, THAT will be your *INDEPENDENT* VERIFICATION.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"AHL PLAYOFF SCORES-- FIRST ROUND\t(home team in CAPS)\n================================\n\nGAMES PLAYED ON TUES, 4\/20\n-------------------------\nRochester 6\tUTICA 4\nFredericton at Cape Breton\n\nSERIES STATI (plural of status? :)\n----------------------------------\nAdirondack leads CDI, 3-0\nProvidence tied w\/Springfield, 2-2\nBinghamton tied w\/Baltimore, 1-1\nRochester leads Utica, 2-1\nSt John's leads Moncton, 2-0\nCape Breton tied w\/Fredericton, 1-1","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I am trying to setup two Seagate Tech. hard drives as\nmaster and slave in the same system...\nwhat i need to do such is the jumper schematics of the\ntwo hard drives that i have...\nmy two Seagate HD:\tST3144A, 124MB\n\t\t\tST3283A, 233MB \n\nI need the jumpter setting schematics for these two Harddrives...\nthanx for you help in advance...","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\nI have been told by a local sales that Asante has come out with this\nLCIII PDS Ethernet adapter with an optional 68882 socket on the board.\nMy question is will the FPU performance degrade will I put the 68882\non the PDS card socket instead of on the motherboard itself? Intuitively,\nthe math co-processor should always be placed close to the CPU, but\nI am not sure how good Apple's so-called processor-direct slot is when\nit comes to throughout. Does anyone know the answer to this or have\nany experience with the Asante LCIII Ethernet adapter? Thanks in advance.\n\nAndy","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nWe would like to keep it that way. Thats the point. By reacting\nstrongly and forcefully now, we will assure that we continue to remain\nfree. You cannot overreact to a threat like this. The worst that\nhappens if we overreact is that we waste time and effort. The worst that\nhappens if we underreact is tyranny. I prefer overreaction myself.\n\n\nDoesn't that tell you how precious and hard to maintain freedom is?\n\nOnly through centuries of overreaction have we managed to maintain\nourselves in this state of even moderate freedom. I suggest that\noverreacting now and in the future is a good thing.\n\n--\nPerry Metzger\t\tpmetzger@shearson.com","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\nNot unreasonable, since the SMARTDRV packaged with DOS 6 is version 4.1.\nMake sure that all your drivers (HIMEM, EMM386, SMARTDRV) are being\nexecuted from the DOS directory.\n\nLoss of the cache provided by SMARTDRV could be your problem; if not,\nI don't know what might cause the startup delay.  My testbed for DBLSPACE\n(which has a *very* minimal amount of data on the disk so that I don't\neat up too much time as I install and uninstall DBLSPACE) boots in \nabout 20 seconds from the \"Starting MS-DOS\" herald to the end of the\nAUTOEXEC.BAT execution.  I don't have handy a system with a more\nrealistic volume of data to time.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nBut it IS made false by your ridiculous leap of logic from \"monogamous\nhomosexual male sex is so rare\" (which is a load of horseshit--as\nproportionately many queers are monogamous as hets, and the ones who aren't\nuse condoms, for the most part) to \"for practical purposes, homosexuality\nspreads AIDS.\"  No.  Unprotected sex with an infected partner spreads AIDS. \nThese \"practical purposes\" you speak of are obviously the purposes of\nspreading homophobia, which leads me to an interesting truth: \"Cramer\nspreads hate.\"  Isn't that nice?\n\n\n\nYou mean, \"Typical homosexual response to Clayton E. Cramer.\"  I think any\nhuman being would react that way to someone as contemptibly hateful as you,\nactually.  I seem to hear the same sort of thing coming from your posts, you\nknow....\n\n ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\nPlanning to make this a complete sentence anytime soon?\n\nDrewcifer","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"930425\n\n\nLet's start with the name \"Rosicrucian\". I took me a long time to come\nto the conclusion that there is a difference between a *member* of a\n\"rosicrucian\" body and BEING *a* ROSICRUCIAN. So when you say that you met\nsome 'rosicrucians' you mean \"members of a group that calls themselves\nrosicrucian\". At least that is what your observation suggests :-)\n\n\nResponse:\n\nThis makes much sense to me.  This is also true of most religions.\nThere is a difference between being a *member* of a group of people\nwho call themselves 'Hindus' or 'Christians' or 'Pagans' and actually\n*BEING* any of these.  The social groups tend to make very important\nrequirements about not belonging to other 'religions'.  I find that\nthe ideal described by the holy texts of most religions can be\ninterpreted in very similar ways so that one could presume that\n'mysticism' is the core of every religion and Huxley's 'Perennial\nPhilosophy' is the Great Secret Core of all mystical trads. :>\n\n\nTony:\n\nI'd prefer if you would have stated up front that it was the Lectorium\nRosicrucianum, only because they may be confused, by some readers of this\nnewsgroup, with the Rosicrucian Order AMORC based (the USA Jurisdiction) in\nSan Jose, CA; this being the RC org with the most members (last time I\nlooked). Of course, \"most members\" does not *necessarily* mean \"best\".\n\n\nResponse:\n\nCertainly true.  I didn't know there WERE any groups which called themselves\n'Rosicrucians' that didn't associate with AMORC.  Sure, I've heard all the\nhubbub about the Golden Dawn and Rosae Crucis in relation to all these\nWestern esoteric groups, but hadn't heard about other 'Rosicrucians'.\nI'll admit my bias.  I live in San Jose. :>\n\n\nTony:\n\n\"You'll have to trust me\" when I tell you that if that\nlecture\/class\/whatever had been presented by AMORC, it is unlikely that you\nwould have had the same impression, i.e., you'd probably have had a\npositive impression more likely than a negative one, IMHO. \n\n\nResponse:\n\nThis may be slightly off.  I've met some of these Rosicrucians and have\na couple friends in AMORC.  The stories I've heard and the slight contact\nI've had with them does not give me the hope that I'd be received with\nany kind of warm welcome.  I still like to think that most people who\nare involved with stratified relationships (monogamy, religion, etc.)\nare in DEEP pain and hope to heal it within such a 'cast'.\n\n\nTony:\n\n     \nIt is curious to know that 3 other RC 'orders' (in the USA) claim to be *non-\nsectarian*.\n\n\nResponse:\n\nI'd like to know at least the addresses of the 'other orders' which call \nthemselves 'Rosicrucians' and especially those which are 'nonsectarian'.\nIs this 'nonsectarian' like the Masons, who require that a member 'believe\nin God by his\/her definition'?\n\n     \n     \nTony:\n\nI don't see nothing *fundamentally* wrong with \"us containing\nsomething divine\"... And yes I don't like phrases like \"eternal bliss\"\neither! :-)\n\n\nResponse:\n\nLet alone us *BEING* something divine. ;>\n\n\nTony:\n\nBTW, I have read the intro letters of the LRC which they will mail you free\nof charge.\n\n\nResponse:\n\nAddresses, phone numbers of groups?  I'm into networking.  Thanks.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"JG> After this fall, I believe IBM no longer has any rights to\nJG> view Microsoft code.  After that, the only way to maintain\nJG> some sort of compatibility is to reverse-engineer.  Would\nJG> you want to reverse-engineer an OLE2 application?\n\nDon't they retain Windows NT OEM status? If so, that gives them NT\nsource code, and since Windows is headed toward NT... (Win32S, Win32C)\n\n * SLMR 2.1a * --T-A+G-L-I+N-E--+M-E-A+S-U-R+I-N-G+--G-A+U-G-E--\n                                                                 ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nOn the news from radio station KANU (Lawrence, KS) about 6:15 this Monday\nmorning, I heard someone with a nasal-sounding voice (supposedly the Waco\ncoroner?) claim that he had found TWO persons killed with a single shot\nto the forehead.\n--Myron.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nOf course, then there's the other side. An article in yesterday's Atlanta\nJournal stated that there are many scientists who have misgivings that the \ndata being used to determine whether or not global warming is occuring is\nfaulty. The point that the article made is that all long term temperature\ndataa collected has been in urban areas, and that any heat rise can be\nattributed to the growth and urbanization of the area. They called it\nthe \"asphalt temperature trend\". We have no real long term data on remote\nareas, such as the middle of the Amazon rain forest, or the top of Mt. Everest\nor the Gobi desert, for that matter. An accompanying article mentioned that\na group of scientists at NASA had developed a method for using a satellite\nto collect temperature data globally, and that preliminary results showed\na slight downward trend attributed to the Mt Pinatubo eruption. It went\non to say that even with the current downward trend, there appeared to be\n*NO* change in global temperatures using trend prediction methods for at\nleast the next 50 years.\n\nI can quote the article verbatim if you like..","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I've heard that in California they ask you to swear without any\nmention of a god.  What states actually include \"god\" in the\ncourtroom oath?\n\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"The simplest and cheapest soft UV bulb is an AR-1 argon bulb (or other argon\nbulb).  It works like a neon bulb except it glows purple.  It will cause\nstuff to fluoresce.  It requires very little power, just a battery, an\noscillator, and a step-up transformer to about 100 volts.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"The Isles picked one hell-of-a-time to get their first win all year after being\ndown after 2 periods. The Caps seemed to have the game in hand playing steady\ndefense and getting great goaltending from Tabaracci. The Isles power play\nphilosophy continues to be dump-and-chase which, except for boardaholics like\nFlatley, doesn't work against the Caps. I hope Al realizes this!! They have too\nmany talented finesse players, so why not carry the puck in and set-up??? If\nlast night's game is any omen, the Isles could be on their way to that ole\nchampionship form; COMING from behind late in a game. My advice to the Caps is\nto pounce on those Healy Rebounds. Flatley showed alot of heart by playing the\nlast period and overtime despite an almost swollen-shut left eye injury\nsuffered at the hands of Dale Hunter. Ray Ferraro has arrived just in time for\nthe playoffs showing the fiesty hustle that us Islander fans remember from an \nItalian from the past; JOHN TONELLI!!! It was Tonelli who won a similar game\nagainst the PENS in game 5 on the 82 playoffs. The Isles scored two late third\nperiod goals to send the game into OT tied at 3. In OT, Tonelli scored the game\nwinner to send the Isles to the next round. The Isles have lacked this tenacity\nfor years, but perhaps its BACK! It was good to see the Coliseum packed just\nlike the ole days!!! Good luck to the Isles the rest of the way!!!!!\n\nJohn Scialdone\nSCIALDONE@NSSDCA.GSFC.NASA.GOV","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"On Tuesday, when it was raining in Chicago, ESPN provided \nbonus hockey coverage.  Now it seems as though some fans are ticked off\nthat the NY-Wash OT was replaced with the Angels-?? game.  People must\nrealize that there are more baseball fans instead of hockey fans in the U.S  \nThe baseball game was scheduled to air and advertisers money was paid so\nthey can't skip the baseball game.  Why don't you people CHILL OUT\nand enjoy whatever coverage you can get.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
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{"text":"\nSo, you approve of the BATF launching a 100-person raid, complete\nwith flack jackets, men hidden in horse trailers, stun grenades,\nsemi-auto weapons on peaceful citizens?  who would also accept\na search authoried by a court?\n\nThere is still no proof that the Branch Davidians had illegal weapons.\nNothing else was in the jurisdiction of the BATF, unless they were\nthought to have a still, or be smoking untaxed cigarettes.\n\nThe automatic firearms violation is a TAX matter !  You don't serve\nno-knock warrants on someone with .50 CAL MGs.  It isn't necessary\n(they can't flush a machine gun down a toilet, you know), and it isn't\nsmart (if you are right, you got a good chance of getting blown away.\nif you are wrong, you shouldn't have done it.)\n\n\nThe stupidity was indeed related to this.  But the stupidity may have been to\nattempt to serve the warrant by ludicrously over-armed, over-protected\nand over-confident gestapo.  Escalation isn't automatically brilliant.\n\nIT WAS A TAX MATTER !  YOU CAN\"T FLUSH MGs DOWN THE TOILET !\nYOU DON\"T NEED NO-KNOCK WARRANTS FOR EVERYTHING.\n\nActually, IMHO nothing justifies them, but that is another argument .\nThere wasn't any murder of police officers.  There was probable cause\nto arrest them for murder perhaps.  We US citizens are innocent until proven\nguilty.\n\nThere also wasn't any killing until the BATF screwed up real bad.\n\n\nLew","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nWell, there were 27 outs in a row with no hits or walks in between, but\nreally, he only retired 26 batters in a row.  The first out of the game\nwas the front end of a double play.  Still counts as a back-end perfect\ngame in my book, though. \n\nCongrats to Chris Bosio.  Too bad the Brewers couldn't hold on to him.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"*****************[ SNES Games For Sale ]*****************\n\nHome Alone 2\t\t\t\t\t$35\nStar Fox\t\t\t\t\t$42\n\nWill trade for a good condition copy (must have box & docs) of\none of the following (SNES ONLY): \n\n\tPrince of Persia\n\tGODS\n\tBatman Returns\n\tSuper Turrican\n\tCybernator \n\n*********************************************************\n\n- All prices include shipping.\n- All games are in excellent condition unless otherwise stated.\n- US buyers only please.\n- All games will be shipped inside a box with packing priority USPS.\n- All games include all original materials including box, manual, etc.\n\nThe first responder offering asking price is guarenteed to\nget the game.  Those just asking questions get no priority until\nthey offer to buy the game.  Lower offers may be considered\nassuming no other offers at asking price are made.\n\n**********************************************************\n\n\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
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{"text":"\nno its not.\n\nits due to the fact that there are two issues here: Religion and religion.\n\nreligion is personal belief system.\nReligion is a memetic virus.\n\npeople loudly proclaiming their beliefs are crossing the border from\nreligion -> Religion.  people that want to \"save\" others are firmly\nentrenched in Religion (\"memoids\").\n\nrule #1 of not practicing Religion is to shut the fuck up, unless\nyou discuss it politely.  this means that the motive behind the conversation\nis not only your self-gratifying wish to spread the word.  \n\nreligion is something that ultimately comes from within a person, and\nreflects their value judgements.  Religion is something that is\ncontracted from others and does not reflect the persons value judgements\n(other than perhaps \"i think i'll be brainwashed today\").\n\nReligion is a drug...\n\ni believe you can discuss religion.  however, the post that started this\noff was not intented as discussion, it was more a proclamation of\nsomeones Religion.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"SOMEONE PLEASE BUY THESE BOOKS!!!!!  I AM NOT ASKING MUCH!!!!!!\n\nJUST MAKE ME AN OFFER AND I WILL PROBABLY TAKE IT!!!!!\n\n\n* Writing good software in Fortran, Graham Smith. \n\n* The Holt Handbook by Kirszner & Mandell (copyright 1986) 720+ page writing guide. \n\n* General Chemistry Principles & Modern Applications, R. Petrucci, fourth\n  edition.  Big Book! Very good condition!\n\n* Solutions manual for Chemistry book.  Paperback.\n\n* Study guide for Chemistry book.  Paperback.\n\n\nSend me your offers via email at 02106@chopin.udel.edu\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Thanx Craig.... in addition to Craigs coments - and to clear up any \nfurther confusion.... the 200SX (of USA) was reffered to as a Silvia Turbo\nin the UK.... performance figures of UK 200SX are:","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nMy sentiments exactly... which is why I'm unsubbing from this group.\nThis is the 3rd 'christian' discussion list I have ever belonged to\nand once again I'm being chased away by the strife, anger, discontent,\nlies, et al .\n\nAs Paul (Saul) said, 'I come to preach Christ, and Him crucified'\nDon't let the simple beauty of faith in God get overshadowed by heady\ntheological discussions or thousands of lines of post-incarnation\ntrappings of some church.\n\n\nAs for the atheists\/agnostics who read this list: if you aren't\nchristian and if you have no intention of ever becoming one why on\nearth do you waste your time and mine by participating on a christian\ndiscussion list ?\n\nI will continue to search for christian discussion (prayerful, spirit-filled,\nkind, humble, patient, etc.) in other circles.  \n\n-- \n  Sheila Patterson, CIT CR-Technical Support Group\n  315 CCC - Cornell University\n  Ithaca, NY  14853\n  (607) 255-5388\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"(Peter White) writes\n\nYou've missed on very important passage.\n\n2 Thess. 1:6-10\n For after all it is only just for God to repay with affliction those who\nafflict you, and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when\nthe Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming\nfire, dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do\nnot obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. And these will pay the penalty of\neternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of\nHis power, when He comes to be glorified in His saints on that day, and to be\nmarveled at among all who have believed-- for our testimony to you was\nbelieved.\n\nThings to note from this passage.  Unbelievers are both those who openly reject\nthe gospel, and those who do not know God.  The eternal destruction is the same\nas the eternal hope in 2:16.  This distructions primarily emphasize that it is\nseparation from the presence of God.  THe context is speaking of the 2nd advent\nwhile 2:1 is speaking of the rapture.  Don't confuse the two. \n\nYet we have a far greater discription of hell that we do heaven.\n\n For instance,\n\nIf this was like earthly fire that requires a gas producing substance to\nignite.\nHowever, there seems to be a different type of fire as expressed in the burning\nbush that was not consumed.  Also, the Daniel acct. shows that the laws of\nnature can be interupted even with earthly fire.\n\n\nMaybe you don't understand.  There will be those who are alive at the end of\nthe millenium, who will walk straight into the GWTJ.  Even those who have died\nin their sin will be resurrected, i.e. reunited with their physical body, to\nreceive condemnation.\n\n\nThis is contrary to the teaching of Scripture.\n\n\nTHis is conjecture at best if you are using it to support the \"no physical\nbody\" thesis.\n\n\nThe true awlfulness of hell, is that it is eternal separation from God, after\nhaving seen the glory of His presence at the GWTJ.  But whether it was open\nrebellion against the revealed gospel of Christ or if it is not having known\nGOd (not saught Him as He is), then as Paul says, they are without excuss and\nthat every mouth will be stopped.  There will be no defense at the judgment\nseat of God. THerefore we understand \"it is appointed unto man once to die, and\nthen comes judgment\" literally.  \n\njust because it is horrific, doesn't make it less of a reality.  \nit should compel those of us who have the riches of Christ to share it with\nothers","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nIs HST really _that_ much heavier than a Spacelab ???\n\nbd","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I know there's already a bmw mailing list, but since it's an R bike \nonly list (and limited to the R80* R100* bikes as well I believe)\nI've decided to give this a go and see how much interest there is.\nplease read all of this post if you plan on subscribing to the list!\n\nthere is only one restriction for the discussion on this list, that it\nbe about BMW's. I don't care which BMW, any and all are welcome. I will\nprobably post articles that appear in the local BMW club newsletter, and\nwould incourage other club members to do the same, especially tech\narticles.\n\nto subscribe to the list, send a message to the list address:\n\n                    bmw@rider.cactus.org\n\nwith the word SUBSCRIBE (in caps) in the *subject* of the message. having\nthe word SUBSCRIBE in the *subject* is the _only_ way to subscribe. if you \nput the keyword in the message body, your message will go out to everyone\non the list and you will be ridiculed beyond belief.\n\n       ** your From: line must have a valid return address    **\n       ** the list sw will use the address in your From: line **\n\nif you would like to use a return address _other_ than what is contained\nin your From: line, do not send mail to the list! send a note directly to\nme (joe@rider.cactus.org) and I'll take care of it manually.\n\nthe list sw will hack up the outgoing message From: line so that your\noriginal full name in ()'s is preserved, but the return address is\nreplaced with the mailing list address (bmw@rider.cactus.org). this \nallows you to simply reply to a message to keep it on the list (depending\non your mail interface natch. I use elm so that's what I wrote it for :-).\nkeep this in mind when you reply to a message and question the authors\nparentage.\n\nto remove your name from the list, send a message to the list address\nwith the word UNSUBSCRIBE (in caps) in the *subject* of the message.\nhaving the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the *subject* is the _only_ way to remove\nyour name from the list. if you put the keyword in the message body, \nyour message will go out to everyone on the list and you will be ridiculed \nbeyond belief.\n\nthe list is run from my home system, a poor little 286 box running a\nvery old version of something that smells somewhat like unix. the MTA\nisn't the smartest around, but I've managed to hack it up enough to make\na decent list MTA. additions and removals are handled automatically by\nscripts that intercept messages based on the subject (see below) and\nmay occassionally goof. the sw will send a response message back when you\nsubscribe. if you do not receive a response within a reasonable amount\nof time (my link is via UUCP and sometimes runs in spurts), send me a \nmessage (joe@rider.cactus.org) and I'll look into it.\n\nif the list turns out to be too popular and the MTA groks over the number\nof addresses, I'll have to freeze the list recipients until I can come up\nwith a better MTA.\n\ngood luck...\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Using a Windows 3.1 printer driver, I would like to \"print to a file\", with\noutput as a Postscript file.  Later, I would like to take this Postscript file\nto a machine with an attached Hewlett Packard 4M laser printer, and print the\ndocument at 600 dots per inch resolution.\n\nI would like to use this method to print from WordPerfect For Windows, and from\nan image processing program that can output images in Postscript.\n\nHere's the problem:  the Windows Postscript printer driver (pscript.drv)\ndoesn't allow me to specify 600 dpi.  In fact, the setup dialog for this driver\ndoes have a pull-down menu for \"resolution\", but the only choice given in the\nmenu is 300!  Not a really useful menu.\n\nAny ideas?","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"------------- cut here -----------------\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n              +------------------------------------------------+\n              !                                                !\n              !              Health Info-Com Network           !\n              !                Medical Newsletter              !\n              +------------------------------------------------+\n                         Editor: David Dodell, D.M.D.\n    10250 North 92nd Street, Suite 210, Scottsdale, Arizona 85258-4599 USA\n                          Telephone +1 (602) 860-1121\n                              FAX +1 (602) 451-1165\n\nCompilation Copyright 1993 by David Dodell,  D.M.D.  All  rights  Reserved.  \nLicense  is  hereby  granted  to republish on electronic media for which no \nfees are charged,  so long as the text of this copyright notice and license \nare attached intact to any and all republished portion or portions.  \n\nThe Health Info-Com Network Newsletter is  distributed  biweekly.  Articles \non  a medical nature are welcomed.  If you have an article,  please contact \nthe editor for information on how to submit it.  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Centers for Disease Control and Prevention - MMWR\n     [23 April 1993] Rates of Cesarean Delivery ...........................  1\n     Malaria Among U.S. Embassy Personnel .................................  5\n     FDA Approval of Hib Vaccine for Children\/Infants .....................  8\n\n2.  Dental News\n     Workshop Explores Oral Manifestations of HIV Infection ............... 11\n\n3.  Food & Drug Administration News\n     FDA Approves Depo Provera, injectable contraceptive .................. 14\n     New Rules Speed Approval of Drugs for Life-Threatening Illnesses ..... 16\n\n4.  Articles\n     Research Promises Preventing\/Slowing Blindness from Retinal Disease .. 18\n     Affluent Diet Increases Risk Of Heart Disease ........................ 20\n\n5.  General Announcments\n     Publications for Health Professionals from National Cancer Institute . 23\n     Publications for Patients Available from National Cancer Institute ... 30\n\n6.  AIDS News Summaries\n     AIDS Daily Summary for April 19 to April 23, 1993 .................... 38\n\n7.  AIDS Statistics\n     Worldwide AIDS Statistics ............................................ 48\n\n\n\n\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                            Page    i\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n\n\n::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::\n               Centers for Disease Control and Prevention - MMWR\n::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::\n\n               Rates of Cesarean Delivery -- United States, 1991\n               =================================================\n                   SOURCE: MMWR 42(15)   DATE: Apr 23, 1993\n\n     Cesarean deliveries have accounted for nearly 1 million of the \napproximately 4 million annual deliveries in the United States since 1986 \n(Table 1). The cesarean rate in the United States is the third highest among \n21 reporting countries, exceeded only by Brazil and Puerto Rico (1). This \nreport presents data on cesarean deliveries from CDC's National Hospital \nDischarge Survey (NHDS) for 1991 and compares these data with previous years. \n     Data on discharges from short-stay, nonfederal hospitals have been \ncollected annually since 1965 in the NHDS, conducted by CDC's National Center \nfor Health Statistics. For 1991, medical and demographic information were \nabstracted from a sample of 274,000 inpatients discharged from 484 \nparticipating hospitals. The 1991 cesareans and vaginal births after a prior \ncesarean (VBAC) presented in this report are based on weighted national \nestimates from the NHDS sample of approximately 31,000 (11%) women discharged \nafter delivery. The estimated numbers of live births by type of delivery were \ncalculated by applying cesarean rates from the NHDS to live births from \nnational vital registration data. Therefore, estimates of the number of \ncesareans in this report will not agree with previously published data based \nsolely on the NHDS (2). Stated differences in this analysis are significant at \nthe 95% confidence level, based on the two-tailed t-test with a critical value \nof 1.96. \n     In 1991, there were 23.5 cesareans per 100 deliveries, the same rate as \nin 1990 and similar to rates during 1986-1989 (Table 1). The primary cesarean \nrate (i.e., number of first cesareans per 100 deliveries to women who had no \nprevious cesareans) for 1986-1991 also was stable, ranging from 16.8 to 17.5. \nIn 1991, the cesarean rate in the South was 27.6, significantly (p<0.05) \nhigher than the rates for the West (19.8), Midwest (21.8), and Northeast \n(22.6). Rates were higher for mothers aged greater than or equal to 30 years \nthan for younger women; in proprietary hospitals than in nonprofit or \ngovernment hospitals; in hospitals with fewer than 300 beds than in larger \nhospitals; and for deliveries for which Blue Cross\/Blue Shield * and other \nprivate insurance is the expected source of payment than for other sources of \npayment (Table 2). The same pattern characterized primary cesarean deliveries. \n     Since the early 1970s, the number and percentage of births to older women \nincreased; however, if the age distribution of mothers in 1991 had remained \nthe same as in 1986, the overall cesarean rate in 1991 would have been 23.3, \nessentially the same as the 23.5 observed. \n     Based on the NHDS, of the approximately 4,111,000 live births in 1991, an \n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page  1\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\nestimated 966,000 (23.5%) were by cesarean delivery. Of these, an estimated \n338,000 (35.0%) births were repeat cesareans, and 628,000 (65.0%) were primary \ncesareans. Since 1986, approximately 600,000 primary cesareans have been \nperformed annually. In 1986, 8.5% of women who had a previous cesarean \ndelivered vaginally, compared with 24.2% in 1991. Of all cesareans in 1991, \n35.0% were associated with a previous cesarean, 30.4% with dystocia (i.e., \nfailure of labor to progress), 11.7% with breech presentation, 9.2% with fetal \ndistress, and 13.7% with all other specified complications. \n     The average hospital stay for all deliveries in 1991 was 2.8 days. In \ncomparison, the hospital stay for a primary cesarean delivery was 4.5 days, \nand for a repeat cesarean, 4.2 days -- nearly twice the duration for VBAC \ndeliveries (2.2 days) or for vaginal deliveries that were not VBACs (2.3 \ndays). In 1986, the average hospital stay for all deliveries was 3.2 days, for \nprimary cesareans 5.2 days, for repeat cesareans 4.7 days, and for VBAC and \nnon-VBAC vaginal deliveries 2.7 and 2.6 days, respectively. \n\nReported by: Office of Vital and Health Statistics Systems, National Center \nfor Health Statistics, CDC. \n\nEditorial Note: The cesarean rate in the United States steadily increased from \n1965 through 1986; however, the findings in this report indicate that rates \nhave been stable since 1986 (3). Because there is little evidence that \nmaternal and child health status has improved during this time and because \ncesareans are associated with an increased risk for complications of \nchildbirth, a national health objective for the year 2000 (4) is to reduce the \noverall cesarean rate to 15 or fewer per 100 deliveries and the primary \ncesarean rate to 12 or fewer per 100 deliveries (objective 14.8). \n     Postpartum complications -- including urinary tract and wound infections \n-- may account in part for the longer hospital stays for cesarean deliveries \nthan for vaginal births (5). Moreover, the prolonged hospital stays for \ncesarean deliveries substantially increase health-care costs. For example, in \n1991, the average costs for cesarean and vaginal deliveries were $7826 and \n$4720, respectively. The additional cost for each cesarean delivery includes \n$611 for physician fees and $2495 for hospital charges (6). If the cesarean \nrate in 1991 had been 15 (the year 2000 objective) instead of 23.5, the number \nof cesarean births would have decreased by 349,000 (617,000 versus 966,000), \nresulting in a savings of more than $1 billion in physician fees and hospital \ncharges. \n     Despite the steady increase in VBAC rates since 1986, several factors may \nimpede progress toward the year 2000 national health objectives for cesarean \ndelivery. For example, VBAC rates substantially reflect the number of women \noffered trial of labor, which has been increasingly encouraged since 1982 (7). \nOf women who are offered a trial of labor, 50%-70% could deliver vaginally (7) \n--a level already achieved by many hospitals (8). Trial of labor was routinely \noffered in 46% of hospitals surveyed in 1984 (the most recent year for which \n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page  2\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\nnational data are available) (9) when the VBAC rate (according to NHDS data) \nwas 5.7%. The year 2000 objective specifies a VBAC rate of 35%, based on all \nwomen who had a prior cesarean, regardless of whether a trial of labor was \nattempted. To reach the overall cesarean rate goal, however, increases in the \nVBAC rate will need to be combined with a substantial reduction in the primary \nrate. \n     One hospital succeeded in reducing the rate of cesarean delivery by \napplying objective criteria for the four most common indications for cesarean \ndelivery, by requiring a second opinion, and by instituting a peer-review \nprocess (10). Other recommendations for decreasing cesarean delivery rates \ninclude eliminating incentives for physicians and hospitals by equalizing \nreimbursement for vaginal and cesarean deliveries; public dissemination of \nphysician- and hospital-specific cesarean delivery rates to increase public \nawareness of differences in practices; and addressing malpractice concerns, \nwhich may be an important factor in maintaining the high rates of cesarean \ndelivery (4). \n\nReferences\n\n1. Notzon FC. International differences in the use of obstetric interventions. \nJAMA 1990; 263:3286-91. \n\n2. Graves EJ, NCHS. 1991 Summary: National Hospital Discharge Survey. \nHyattsville, Maryland: US Department of Health and Human Services, Public \nHealth Service, CDC, 1993. (Advance data no. 227). \n\n3. Taffel SM, Placek PJ, Kosary CL. U.S. cesarean section rates, 1990: an \nupdate. Birth 1992;19:21-2. \n\n4. Public Health Service. Healthy people 2000: national health promotion and \ndisease prevention objectives -- full report, with commentary. Washington, DC: \nUS Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Service, 1991; DHHS \npublication no. (PHS)91-50212. \n\n5. Danforth DN. Cesarean section. JAMA 1985;253:811-8. \n\n6. Hospital Insurance Association of America. Table 4.15: cost of maternity \ncare, physicians' fees, and hospital charges, by census region, based on \nConsumer Price Index (1991). In: 1992 Source book of health insurance data. \nWashington, DC: Hospital Insurance Association of America, 1992. \n\n7. Committee on Obstetrics. ACOG committee opinion no. 64: guidelines for \nvaginal delivery after a previous cesarean birth. Washington, DC: American \nCollege of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, 1988. \n\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page  3\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n8. Rosen MG, Dickinson JC. Vaginal birth after cesarean: a meta-analysis of \nindicators for success. Obstet Gynecol 1990;76:865-9. \n\n9. Shiono PH, Fielden JG, McNellis D, Rhoads GG, Pearse WH. Recent trends in \ncesarean birth and trial of labor rates in the United States. JAMA \n1987;257:494-7. \n\n10. Myers SA, Gleicher N. A successful program to lower cesarean-section \nrates. N Engl J Med 1988;319:1511-6. \n\n* Use of trade names and commercial sources is for identification only and \ndoes not imply endorsement by the Public Health Service or the U.S. Department \nof Health and Human Services.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page  4\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n         Malaria Among U.S. Embassy Personnel -- Kampala, Uganda, 1992\n         =============================================================\n                   SOURCE: MMWR 42(15)   DATE: Apr 23, 1993\n\n     The treatment and prevention of malaria in Africa has become a \nchallenging and complex problem because of increasing drug resistance. \nAlthough the risk of acquiring malaria for U.S. citizens and their dependents \nstationed overseas generally has been low, this risk varies substantially and \nunpredictably. During May 1992, the Office of Medical Services, Department of \nState (OMS\/DOS), and CDC were notified of an increased number of malaria cases \namong official U.S. personnel stationed in Kampala, Uganda. A review of the \nhealth records from the Embassy Health Unit (EHU) in Kampala indicated that 27 \ncases of malaria were diagnosed in official personnel from March through June \n1992 compared with two cases during the same period in 1991. EHU, OMS\/DOS, and \nCDC conducted an investigation to confirm all reported malaria cases and \nidentify potential risk factors for malaria among U.S. Embassy personnel. This \nreport summarizes the results of the investigation. \n     Malaria blood smears from 25 of the 27 reported case-patients were \navailable for review by OMS\/DOS and CDC. A case of malaria was confirmed if \nthe slide was positive for Plasmodium sp. Of the 25 persons, 17 were slide-\nconfirmed as having malaria. \n     A questionnaire was distributed to all persons served by the EHU to \nobtain information about residence, activities, use of malaria \nchemoprophylaxis, and use of personal protection measures (i.e., using bednets \nand insect repellents, having window and door screens, and wearing long \nsleeves and pants in the evening). Of the 157 persons eligible for the survey, \n128 (82%) responded. \n     Risk for malaria was not associated with sex or location of residence in \nKampala. Although the risk for malaria was higher among children aged less \nthan or equal to 15 years (6\/32 19%) than among persons greater than 15 \nyears (11\/94 12%), this difference was not significant (relative risk \nRR=1.6; 95% confidence interval CI=0.6-4.0). Eighty-two percent of the \ncases occurred among persons who had been living in Kampala for 1-5 years, \ncompared with those living there less than 1 year. Travel outside of the \nKampala area to more rural settings was not associated with increased risk for \nmalaria. \n     Four malaria chemoprophylaxis regimens were used by persons who \nparticipated in the survey: mefloquine, chloroquine and proguanil, chloroquine \nalone, and proguanil alone. In addition, 23 (18%) persons who responded were \nnot using any malaria chemoprophylaxis. The risk for malaria was significantly \nlower among persons using either mefloquine or chloroquine and proguanil (8\/88 \n9%) than among persons using the other regimens or no prophylaxis (9\/37 \n24%) (RR=0.4; 95% CI=0.2-0.9). Twelve persons not using prophylaxis reported \nside effects or fear of possible side effects as a reason. \n     The risk for malaria was lower among persons who reported using bednets \n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page  5\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\nall or most of the time (2\/27 7%) than among persons who sometimes or rarely \nused bednets (15\/99 15%) (RR=0.5; 95% CI=0.1-2.0). The risk for malaria was \nalso lower among persons who consistently used insect repellent in the evening \n(0\/16), compared with those who rarely used repellent (17\/110 15%) (RR=0; \nupper 95% confidence limit=1.2). Risk for malaria was not associated with \nfailure to have window or door screens or wear long sleeves or pants in the \nevening. \n     As a result of this investigation, EHU staff reviewed with all personnel \nthe need to use and comply with the recommended malaria chemoprophylaxis \nregimens. EHU staff also emphasized the need to use personal protection \nmeasures and made plans to obtain insecticide-impregnated bednets and to \nprovide window and door screens for all personnel. \n\nReported by: U.S. Embassy Health Unit, Kampala, Uganda; Office of Medical \nSvcs, Dept of State, Washington, D.C. Malaria Br, Div of Parasitic Diseases, \nNational Center for Infectious Diseases, CDC. \n\nEditorial Note: In Uganda, the increase in malaria among U.S. personnel was \nattributed to poor adherence to both recommended malaria chemoprophylaxis \nregimens and use of personal protection measures during a period of increased \nmalaria transmission and intensified chloroquine resistance in sub-Saharan \nAfrica. The findings in this report underscore the need to provide initial and \ncontinued counseling regarding malaria prevention for persons living abroad in \nmalaria-endemic areas -- preventive measures that are also important for \nshort-term travelers to such areas. \n     Mefloquine is an effective prophylaxis regimen in Africa and in most \nother areas with chloroquine-resistant P. falciparum; however, in some areas \n(e.g., Thailand), resistance to mefloquine may limit its effectiveness. In \nAfrica, the efficacy of mefloquine, compared with chloroquine alone, in \npreventing infection with P. falciparum is 92% (1 ). Mefloquine is safe and \nwell tolerated when given at 250 mg per week over a 2-year period. The risk \nfor serious adverse reactions possibly associated with mefloquine prophylaxis \n(e.g., psychosis and convulsions) is low (i.e., 1.3-1.9 episodes per 100,000 \nusers 2), while the risk for less severe adverse reactions (e.g., dizziness, \ngastrointestinal complaints, and sleep disturbances) is similar to that for \nother antimalarial chemoprophylactics (1). \n     Doxycycline has similar prophylactic efficacy to mefloquine, but the need \nfor daily dosing may reduce compliance with and effectiveness of this regimen \n(3,4). Chloroquine alone is not effective as prophylaxis in areas of intense \nchloroquine resistance (e.g., Southeast Asia and Africa). In Africa, for \npersons who cannot take mefloquine or doxycycline, chloroquine and proguanil \nis an alternative, although less effective, regimen. Chloroquine should be \nused for malaria prevention in areas only where chloroquine-resistant P. \nfalciparum has not been reported. \n     Country-specific recommendations for preventing malaria and information \n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page  6\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\non the dosage and precautions for malaria chemoprophylaxis regimens are \navailable from Health Information for International Travel, 1992 (i.e., \n\"yellow book\") (5) or 24 hours a day by telephone or fax, (404) 332-4555. \n\nReferences\n\n1. Lobel HO, Miani M, Eng T, et al. Long-term malaria prophylaxis with weekly \nmefloquine in Peace Corps volunteers: an effective and well tolerated regimen. \nLancet 1993;341:848-51. \n\n2. World Health Organization. Review of central nervous system adverse events \nrelated to the antimalarial drug, mefloquine (1985-1990). Geneva: World Health \nOrganization, 1991; publication no. WHO\/MAL\/91.1063. \n\n3. Pang L, Limsomwong N, Singharaj P. Prophylactic treatment of vivax and \nfalciparum malaria with low-dose doxycycline. J Infect Dis 1988;158:1124-7. \n\n4. Pang L, Limsomwong N, Boudreau EF, Singharaj P. Doxycycline prophylaxis for \nfalciparum malaria. Lancet 1987;1:1161-4. \n\n5. CDC. Health information for international travel, 1992. Atlanta: US \nDepartment of Health and Human Services, Public Health Service, 1992:98; DHHS \npublication no. (CDC)92-8280.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page  7\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n      FDA Approval of Use of a New Haemophilus b Conjugate Vaccine and a\n       Combined Diphtheria-Tetanus-Pertussis and Haemophilus b Conjugate\n                       Vaccine for Infants and Children\n      ==================================================================\n                   SOURCE: MMWR 42(15)   DATE: Apr 23, 1993\n\n     Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib) conjugate vaccines have been \nrecommended for use in infants since 1990, and their routine use in infant \nvaccination has contributed to the substantial decline in the incidence of Hib \ndisease in the United States (1-3). Vaccines against diphtheria, tetanus, and \npertussis during infancy and childhood have been administered routinely in the \nUnited States since the late 1940s and has been associated with a greater than \n90% reduction in morbidity and mortality associated with infection by these \norganisms. Because of the increasing number of vaccines now routinely \nrecommended for infants, a high priority is the development of combined \nvaccines that allow simultaneous administration with fewer separate \ninjections. \n     The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) recently licensed two new products \nfor vaccinating children against these diseases: 1) the Haemophilus b \nconjugate vaccine (tetanus toxoid conjugate, ActHIB Trademark), * for \nvaccination against Hib disease only and 2) a combined diphtheria and tetanus \ntoxoids and whole-cell pertussis vaccine (DTP) and Hib conjugate vaccine \n(TETRAMUNE Trademark), a combination of vaccines formulated for use in \nvaccinating children against diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, and Hib disease. \n\n                               ActHIB Trademark \n\n     On March 30, 1993, the FDA approved a new Haemophilus b conjugate \nvaccine, polyribosylribitol phosphate-tetanus toxoid conjugate (PRP-T), \nmanufactured by Pasteur Merieux Serum et Vaccins and distributed as ActHIB \nTrademark by Connaught Laboratories, Inc. (Swiftwater, Pennsylvania). This \nvaccine has been licensed for use in infants in a three-dose primary \nvaccination series administered at ages 2, 4, and 6 months. Previously \nunvaccinated infants 7-11 months of age should receive two doses 2 months \napart. Previously unvaccinated children 12-14 months of age should receive one \ndose. A booster dose administered at 15 months of age is recommended for all \nchildren. Previously unvaccinated children 15-59 months of age should receive \na single dose and do not require a booster. More than 90% of infants receiving \na primary vaccination series of ActHIB Trademark (consecutive doses at 2, 4, \nand 6 months of age) develop a geometric mean titer of anti-Haemophilus b \npolysaccharide antibody greater than 1 ug\/mL (4). This response is similar to \nthat of infants who receive recommended series of previously licensed \nHaemophilus b conjugate vaccines for which efficacy has been demonstrated in \nprospective trials. Two U.S. efficacy trials of PRP-T were terminated early \nbecause of the concomitant licensure of other Haemophilus b conjugate vaccines \n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page  8\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\nfor use in infants (4). In these studies, no cases of invasive Hib disease \nwere detected in approximately 6000 infants vaccinated with PRP-T. These and \nother studies suggest that the efficacy of PRP-T vaccine will be similar to \nthat of the other licensed Hib vaccines. TETRAMUNE Trademark \n     On March 30, 1993, the FDA approved a combined diphtheria and tetanus \ntoxoids and whole-cell pertussis vaccine (DTP) and Haemophilus b conjugate \nvaccine. TETRAMUNE Trademark, available from Lederle-Praxis Biologicals (Pearl \nRiver, New York), combines two previously licensed products, DTP (TRIIMMUNOL \nRegistered, manufactured by Lederle Laboratories Pearl River, New York) and \nHaemophilus b conjugate vaccine (HibTITER Registered, manufactured by Praxis \nBiologics, Inc. Rochester, New York). \n     This vaccine has been licensed for use in children aged 2 months-5 years \nfor protection against diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, and Hib disease when \nindications for vaccination with DTP vaccine and Haemophilus b conjugate \nvaccine coincide. Based on demonstration of co mparable or higher antibody \nresponses to each of the components of the two vaccines, TETRAMUNE Trademark \nis expected to provide protection against Hib, as well as diphtheria, tetanus, \nand pertussis, equivalent to that of already licensed formulations of other \nDTP and Haemophilus b vaccines. \n     The Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices (ACIP) recommends that \nall infants receive a primary series of one of the licensed Haemophilus b \nconjugate vaccines beginning at 2 months of age and a booster dose at age 12-\n15 months (5). The ACIP also recommends that all infants receive a four-dose \nprimary series of diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and pertussis vaccine at 2, \n4, 6, and 15-18 months of age, and a booster dose at 4-6 years (6-8). A \ncomplete statement regarding recommendations for use of ActHIB Trademark and \nTETRAMUNE Trademark is being developed. \n\nReported by: Office of Vaccines Research and Review, Center for Biologics \nEvaluation and Research, Food and Drug Administration. Div of Immunization, \nNational Center for Prevention Svcs; Meningitis and Special Pathogens Br, Div \nof Bacterial and Mycotic Diseases, National Center for Infectious Diseases, \nCDC. \n\nReferences\n\n1. Adams WG, Deaver KA, Cochi SL, et al. Decline of childhood Haemophilus \ninfluenzae type b (Hib) disease in the Hib vaccine era. JAMA 1993;269:221-6. \n\n2. Broadhurst LE, Erickson RL, Kelley PW. Decrease in invasive Haemophilus \ninfluenzae disease in U.S. Army children, 1984 through 1991. JAMA \n1993;269:227-31. \n\n3. Murphy TV, White KE, Pastor P, et al. Declining incidence of Haemophilus \ninfluenzae type b disease since introduction of vaccination. JAMA \n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page  9\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n1993;269:246-8. \n\n4. Fritzell B, Plotkin S. Efficacy and safety of a Haemophilus influenzae type \nb capsular polysaccharide-tetanus protein conjugate vaccine. J Pediatr \n1992;121:355-62. \n\n5. ACIP. Haemophilus b conjugate vaccines for prevention of Haemophilus \ninfluenzae type b disease among infants and children two months of age and \nolder: recommendations of the Immunization Practices Advisory Committee \n(ACIP). MMWR 1991;40(no. RR-1). \n\n6. ACIP. Diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis -- recommendations for vaccine use \nand other preventive measures: recommendations of the Immunization Practices \nAdvisory Committee (ACIP). MMWR 1991;40(no. RR-10). \n\n7. ACIP. Pertussis vaccination: acellular pertussis vaccine for reinforcing \nand booster use -- supplementary ACIP statement: recommendations of the \nImmunization Practices Advisory Committee (ACIP). MMWR 1992;41(no. RR-1). \n\n8. ACIP. Pertussis vaccination: acellular pertussis vaccine for the fourth and \nfifth doses of the DTP series -- update to supplementary ACIP statement: \nrecommendations of the Immunization Practices Advisory Committee (ACIP). MMWR \n1992;41(no. RR-15). \n\n* Use of trade names and commercial sources is for identification only and \ndoes not imply endorsement by the Public Health Service or the U.S. Department \nof Health and Human Services.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 10\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n\n\n::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::\n                                  Dental News\n::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::\n\n            International Workshop Explores Oral Manifestations of\n                                 HIV Infection\n\n                             NIDR Research Digest\n                             written by Jody Dove\n                                  March 1993\n                     National Institute of Dental Research\n\n     At the Second International Workshop on the Oral Manifestations of HIV \nInfection, held January 31-February 3 in San Francisco, participants explored \nissues related to the epidemiology, basic molecular virology, mucosal \nimmunology, and oral clinical presentations of HIV infection. \n     The workshop was organized by Dr. John Greenspan and Dr. Deborah \nGreenspan of the Department of Stomatology, School of Dentistry, University of \nCalifornia, San Francisco.  An international steering committee and scientific \nprogram committee provided guidance. \n     The conference drew more than 260 scientists from 39 countries, including \nAsia, Africa, Europe, Central America, South America, as well as the United \nStates and Canada.  Support tor the workshop was provided by the National \nInstitute of Dental Research, the National Cancer Institute, the National \nInstitute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, the NIH Office of AIDS Research, \nand the Procter and Gamble Company. \n     Among the topics discussed were: the epidemiology of HIV lesions; ethics, \nprofessional responsibility, and public policy; occupational issues; provision \nof oral care to the HIV-positive population; salivary HIV transmission and \nmucosal immunity; opportunistic infections; pediatric HIV infection; and \nwomen's issues. \n\n                                Recommendations\n\n     Recommendations emerged from the workshop to define the association \nbetween the appearance of oral lesions and rate of progression of HIV, to \nestablish a universal terminology for HIV-associated oral lesions, to look for \nmore effective treatments for oral manifestations, to expand molecular biology \nstudies to understand the relationship between HIV infection and common oral \nlesions, and to study the effects of HIV therapy on oral lesions. \n\n                                 Epidemiology\n\n     Since the First International Workshop on Oral Manifestations of HIV \nInfection was convened five years ago, the epidemiology of HIV infection has \n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 11\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\nradically changed.  In 1988, HIV infection was detected and reported largely \nin homosexual and bisexual males, intravenous drug users, and hemophiliacs.  \nToday, more HIV infection is seen in heterosexual males and females and in \nchildren and adolescents. \n     While the predominant impact of HIV infection has been felt in Africa, a \nmajor increase in infection rate is being seen in Southeast Asia as well.  \nFive hundred thousand cases have been reported to date in this region and more \nare appearing all the time. \n     Researchers are continuing to document the epidemiology of oral lesions \nsuch as hairy leukoplakia and candidiasis.  They also are beginning to explore \nthe relationships between specific oral lesions and HIV disease progression \nand prognosis. \n\n                            Social\/political Issues\n\n     Discussion on the social and political implications of HIV infection \nfocused on changing the public's attitude that AIDS is retribution for \nindiscriminate sexual behavior and drug use.  Speakers also addressed health \ncare delivery for HIV-infected patients, and the need to educate the public \nabout what AIDS is, and how it is acquired. \n\n                          Saliva and Salivary Glands\n\n     Conference speakers described transmission issues and the HIV-inhibitory \nactivity of saliva, the strength of which varies among the different salivary \nsecretions.  Whole saliva has a greater inhibitory effect than submandibular \nsecretions, which in turn have a greater inhibitory effect than parotid \nsecretions.  Research has shown that at least two mechanisms are responsible \nfor salivary inhibitory activity.  They attributed the HIV-inhibitory effect \nof saliva to the 1) aggregation\/agglutination of HIV by saliva, which may both \npromote clearance of virus and prevent it reaching a target cell, and 2) \ndirect effects on the virus or target cells. \n     Other topics discussed were the manifestation of salivary gland disease \nin HIV-infected persons and current research on oral mucosal immunity. \n\n                               Pediatric Issues\n\n     Pediatric AIDS recently has emerged as an area of intense interest.  With \nearly and accurate diagnosis and proper treatment, the life expectancy of HIV-\ninfected children has tripled.  The prevention of transmission of HIV from \nmother to child may be possible in many cases, particularly if the mother's \nsero-status is known prior to giving birth. \n\n                    Periodontal and Gingival Tissue Disease\n\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 12\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n     Oral health researchers continue to explore periodontal diseases and \ngingivitis found in individuals with HIV infection.  Recommendations made at \nthe workshop include the standardization of terminology, refinement of \ndiagnostic markers, standardization of study design, and proper consideration \nof confounding variables resulting from periodontal therapy. \n\n                       Occupational and Treatment Issues\n\n     Occupational issues surrounding the treatment of HIV-infected individuals \nand treatment rendered by HIV-infected health care professionals still command \nconsiderable attention.  Factors under consideration include the cost\/benefit \nof HIV testing, patient-to-health care provider transmission of HIV infection \nand the reverse, and the use of mainstream versus dedicated facilities for the \ntreatment of HIV-infected patients. \n     Conference participants anticipate that a third International Workshop on \nthe Oral Manifestations of HIV Infection will be held in five years or less.  \nProceedings from the second workshop will be published by the Quintessence \nCompany in late 1993.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n--------- end of part 1 ------------\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n[byteocide]\n\nYou take two copies with a different registration id, compare them byte for \nbyte and you know where they are located. Usually you will be able to \nfind out what is what after that. \n\nAnd what keeps me form registering as John Doe from the company Public \nDomain, Yellow Brick Road 1, Tinseltown or something???\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nGuido Klemans\n\nInternet: rcstage1@urc.tue.nl                  valid until 16 may 1993\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n'Listen very carefully, I will say this only ones.'  Michelle of the resitance\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nYup, that was quite contemptuous of the President to make a decision that\n12% disagree with...","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"1989 Honda CRX DX, White w\/Blue int. \n\t    Original owner,  59,500 miles, mostly highway.\n\t    Recent tune-up, new battery\n\t    Oil changed every 3000 miles\n\t    Kenwood high power cassette receiver, w\/ 4 spkrs\n\t    $6800 or best reasonable offer","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I just donwloaded a *.bin file from a unix machine which is\nsupposed to be converted to a MAC format. Does anyone know \nwhat I need to do to this file to get it into any Dos, Mac\nor Unix readable format. Someone mentioned fetch on the unix\nmachine - is this correct? Could someone explain the .bin\nformat a little?\n\nThanks,\n\nElizabeth\n-- \n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"So, Mr. Salah is still claiming Stalin was a Jew? \n\nThis thread began on SCA, when he and another guy claimed both Stalin\nand Lenin were Jews. When I posted evidence from books and the Britannica\nshowing they were Christians, someone made the (correct) remark that\nLenin's maternal grandfather was a Jew who converted to Christianity.\n\nTo counter the fact that Stalin was a Christian who, during his youth,\nwas trained to be a priest, Mr. Salah wrote \"yes, it says he was trained\nto be a priest, but not for what religion!\" (BTW, Stalin developed\nstrong antisemitic feelings later in his life).\n\nMr. Salah seems intent on trying to spread hate against Jews by posting\nantisemitic forgeries and trying to \"prove\" that certain notorious\npeople were Jews, even if they were not.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nDJ was a popular player in San Diego, Derek Bell was not faring well in the\nclubhouse at Toronto, so no matter how bad he looks now I still think it\nwas a steal for the Jays just from the perspective of team chemistry.\nNo statistic can describe it (sorry statheads) and since there are so many\nnew faces in the clubhouse I think the Jays are still trying to find it.\n\n(Insert the same comment into the Jack Morris v. Clemens WS Ring string)\n\nYet at first I was sad to see Derek go, still anticipating all of the talent\nthey raved about at the beginning of last season.  I'm glad to see him\nfaring well for the Padres though.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n \n        Yes, it is possible.  I'm making a 7 stepper controller board, \nwith 7 digital inputs, and (up to) 18 digital outputs from the \/\/ port.\n   One main thing that will tell you whether the \/\/ port is \nbi-directional or not is the bus tranceiver on it.  Look for a chip \nnumbered 74LS245.  If you don't have this, then it's probably a 74LS244, \nwhich will do you NO good for reading in.\n  \n          Now, if you do have the '245 then do the following:\n  First, find the address of the port, (decimal) either 888, or 632.\n  In pascal, you would \"Write(Port[xxx]);\" where xxx is the address in \neither hex or decimal.  The status lines, pins 14, 16, 17, as well as the \nstrobe, pin 1, are bi-directional lines, and are read by base address +2, \nso for 888, to read from status, then read from 890.  You can also output \nto these lines in the same fashion as to the data lines.  In pascal, \ndo \"Port[xxx]:=value\n\".\n \n                Hope this helps.\n        Let me know if you need more help.\n \n \n  _________________________________________________\n  Inspiration  |   ___                             |\n  comes to     |  \\   o  baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca |\n  those who    | (  ^  ) baden@inqmind.bison.mb.ca |\n  seek the     |   \/-\\      =] Baden de Bari [=    |\n  unknown.     |                                   |","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"-= PASTORTALK =-\n\n  A weekly dialogue with a local pastor on the news of the day\n\n                      by Carl (Gene) Wilkes \n\n                       Startext: MC344578 \n                     CompuServe: 70423,600\n                       Internet: 70423.600@compuserve.com\n\n                   -= THIS WEEK'S THOUGHTS =-\n\nLast week the Supreme Court refused without comment to hear an\nappeal by Rensselaer, IN, school officials desiring the\ndistribution of Bibles in their public schools (REL65, 5\/21). A\nlower court had banned the local Gideons, an international Bible-\ndistribution group, from passing out Bibles to fifth-graders. The\nACLU's Barry Lynn was quoted as saying that the court's action\nprotected the \"religious neutrality of our public schools.\" He also\nsaid that schools must serve students of \"all faiths and none.\"\nSchools were not to be a \"bazaar where rival religious groups\ncompete for converts,\" according to Lynn.\n\nSeveral Gideons, men who are responsible for putting Bibles in\nhospitals and hotels, are members of our church. They tell of\nsimilar stories where they are only allowed to distribute Bibles on\nsidewalks around the schools, but cannot go inside the schools.\nThey tell of mild harassment by parents who do not want their\nchildren receiving a Bible from a stranger. They are willing to\ncontinue their work at a distance, but find the school's position\nsomewhat disheartening.\n\nI understand rationally and logically the court's position. And, I\ncan see the sense of fairness for all groups. But, on the other\nhand, when does \"neutrality\" become \"nihilism?\" When does plurality\nturn into no position at all?\n\nI see a couple of ironies here. One is that we can pass out condoms\nbut not Bibles in our schools. Think on that one for a moment.\n\nThe other is that while we are seeking \"religious neutrality\" in\nour schools, countries like Russia--who, by the way, practiced\n\"religious neutrality\" for the past seventy years--are making the \nBible part of their public school curriculum. When I was in St.\nPetersburg in March, the church we worked with had trained over 100\npublic school teachers to teach the Bible, and the government had\nrequested hundreds more! I recently heard a medical doctor who is\npresident of the Gideon chapter in Moscow tell how they are eagerly\ninvited to the University of Moscow to distribute Bibles to the\nstudents and are given class time to explain its contents. I\nremember seeing a photograph of this doctor holding a Bible and\nspeaking to the university students standing under a statue of\nLenin. Now, that's ironic!\n\nI admit two things: 1) We are a pluralistic society, and all faiths\nhave equal footing. This is what our country was founded on. 2) To\nallow every group on school grounds could create a bazaar-like\natmosphere. Each city must work to be inclusive of all religions\nand provide a hearing for them. 3)--I know I said two--The vitality\nof religious faith is not dependent upon whether or not the public\narena acknowledges it as valid.\n\nHowever--and you knew this was coming--I believe, disallowing the\ndistribution of the Bible by law-abiding, caring adults in our\nschools only signals once again our culture's movement away from a\nsingular base from which we as individuals and as a nation can make\nmoral and ethical decisions.\n\nWhat do you think? \n\n                         -= MAIL BOX =-\n(Let me know if you do not want me to print your letter or your\nname.)\n\nGood column [re: TIME coverstory about teen sexuality]; I agree\nwith moral education from home, but some homes don't have the kinds\nof morals I want taught.  One family I worked with smoked dope as\ntheir primary family activity.  Another acted like incest was OK.\nFamilies, no matter where they are, are often a lot sicker than\nwe'd like to believe.\n\nFrom: John Hightower, MC 407602\n\nJohn,\n\nI agree that the \"home\" ain't what it used to be, and some homes\nare NOT the place to learn value-based sexuality. I still believe\nthat this is where the church can come into play. I know, those\nfamilies you speak of may not come to a church to seek information,\nbut the help does not need to be in a church building...I believe\nthat the youth from the families you mentioned will probably\ndisregard the value-free information at school, too.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nWait a minute.  The story being pushed here is that the fire started\nin ONE PLACE.  This is not consistent with the story that they were\nTRAPPED by the fire (particularly in a building that all of a sudden\nhad many more exits).\n\nChoose one, please.\n\n\nWell, for everyone besides Koresh and his blood children, we can \nassume independent choice: Ah, they chose to stay in the face of\nan assault which clearly endangered their lives.  Or, alternatively,\nthey were not permitted to leave.  Choose one.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Announcing\nthe Trincoll Journal\n\n                                                      Trinity College's\nPaperless Publication\n\nThe Trincoll Journal is an interactive magizine written in Hypercard. \nThis publication offers a wide variety of information concerning the\n\"Trinity Campus\", and the Greater Hartford Area. In addition the Journal\nalso provides a unique forum for opinion and expression.\n\nWe would like to invite the Internet community to participate in the\ncreation of this publication by submitting Articles, Art Work, Events\n(for the Greater Hartford Area only), and anything else that you think is\ninteresting, to the Journal each week.\n\nArticles may be written about anything as long as they are written well! \nWe are also interested in mirroring Newsletters and other information not\neasily accessible to non-intensive Macintosh Users.\n\nThe weekly deadline for submitting Materials is Wendsday 10:00pm (Eastern\nStandard Time).\nPlease send all submissions to: Journal@mail.trincoll.edu\n\nTo receive the Journal each Week send a mail message with the words\n\"Subscribe Journal\" as the subject line to: Journal@mail.trincoll.edu.\nPlease include Full name and instituion in the body of text.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Let me remind all of those Muslim-haters out there who like to\nmention the Mufti's cooperation with Germany as a reason to let Muslims\nbe slaughtered everywhere in the world of the following facts:\n\n1)Why blame the Muslims for what the Nazis did and FORGIVE ITALY, THE CROATS,\nAND MANY OTHER EUROPEANS FOR BEING REAL ALLIES TO HITLER?\n\n2)Why blame Muslims for supporting Germany the enemy of their enemy\nat the time (Britain who colonized most of the middle east and was responsible\nfor most atrocities against Muslims in the region) and FORGIVE GERMANY ITSELF\nEVENTHOUGH IT IS THE ONE WHO CREATED NAZISM?\n\n3)As far as Muslims are concerned : THERE WAS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN\nNAZI GERMANY, AND ANTIMUSLIM COLONIALIST BRITAIN\/FRANCE IN 1940. They were\nall racist, anti-arab, and full of arrogance and hate. WWII and the wars \nin ALgeria, Sudan, and other places proved that very clearly. Even anti-\nsemitism was not more spread in Germany than in France or Britain, it just\nhappened to be official policy in Germany.\n\nAnd we will forgive you, just set our countries free.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"If by chance you answered my request for NEO Asteroids in the last two days\nplease send them to me directly. I by mistake deleted instead of read\nall the space-request messages .\n\nThanks and sorry.\n\nHarry G. Osoff\nScience & Technology Editor\nAccess News Network","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
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{"text":"I just removed an IDE drive and reformated two SCSI disk to use as boot disk \nin a system that did run Windows fine in 386 Enhanced Mode. Its a DX50 with 8 \nmeg RAM, and an Adaptec 1542b with bios enabled. System runs fine and runs \nWindows in standard mode fine, but it returns to the DOS prompt when trying \nto run 386 mode. I've tried EMMExclude and SysROMBreakPoint. What gives??????\n\nThanks in advance, Hal","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n ...\n\nBadWindow is an X protocol error.  If you write a custom error handler\nwhich does not do \"exit(1);\" the error handler will return and let\nyour program carry on.  So, using a XSetErrorHandler is the way to\ngo, but never mind the longjmp.\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"caching\ndrive\nfor?","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nProve it.  I am an atheist.  It doesn't mean I am for or against abortion.\n\n\nAn obvious effect of homosexuality is non-procreation.  That, unlike your\nstatement, is a fact.  Please prove that (a) homosexuality is defended as \nmeans of population control, (b) being atheist causes you to hold these\nbeliefs.  I defend homosexuality because (a) what people do with their\nbodies is none of my business (b) I defend the equal rights of\nall humans.  Do you?\n\n\nDefine values. Prove your statement.\n\n\nProve your statement.  Electrons are waves.  Electrons are particles.  I \nbelieve in both.  I have physical proof of both.  I have no proof of god(tm)\nonly an ancient book.  That is not indicative of the existence of a being\nwith omnipotence or omnipresence.  And, by your own argument, christians\ndon't exist.\n\n\n\nFirst of all, your earlier statements have absolutely nothing to do\nwith your question.  Why did you post them?  To show that athiests,\nbesides not existing (your view), are more humane than christians\/other\nreligions?\n\n\nSecondly I am very much for the control of population growth.\n\nThe logic that you cannot grasp indicates ignorance of contraception.\nBut of course, this is 'outlawed' (sometimes literally) by religion\nsince if it can't create more followers, it will die.\n\nI\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Can anyone out there tell me the difference between a \"persistent\" disease\nand a \"chronic\" one? For example, persistent hepatitis vs chronic\nhepatitis.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"==============================================================================\nCould someone please tell me the Best FTP'able viewer available for MSDOS\nI am running a 486 33mhz with SVGA monitor.\nI need to look at gifs mainly and it would be advantageous if it ran\nunder windows...........thanks\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":": In light of recent events, it may soon become a very good idea\n: to include the ability to produce transparent, or at least non-obvious,\n: cyphertext in upcoming revisions.\n\nThis won't help if the NSA\/FBA axis requires all messages to\nundergo textual analysis and reduction to canonical form to\neliminate concealed messages.\n\nAfter reading several National Computer Security Center\ndocuments, I'm convinced that they are already using this\nfilter.  DoubleplusgoodNOT.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"For sale: Toshiba 3300SL notebook computer. \n\nSpecs:\n\n\t80386SL (64K cache) @ 25MHz, * 8MB * RAM, 80 meg 16ms IDE hard drive, \n\t1.44meg floppy, 5.9 lbs w\/ Nickle Hydride battery installed, edgelit\n\tgreyscale VGA display, PS\/2 mouse port, external keyboard\n        port, 1 PCMCIA port, external expansion port, external VGA port, 1\n\tserial, 1 parallel ports, socket for 80387SL numeric coprocessor\n\t(user-installable).   Memory is expandable to 18meg.\n\n\tVoted Editor's Choice by PC Magazine.   An expansion station is\n\tavailable from Toshiba; Axionics also makes one that is more\n\teconomical.\n\t\n\nPower conservation options: \n\n\tUser definable hard drive powerdown period, screen dimming,\n        auto stepdown of CPU speed (to 12.5, 6 MHz) after definable interval,\n\tetc.\n\nComments:\n\n        Purchased locally at Micro Center in Columbus, OH 7 months ago.  All\n\toriginal packaging, receipts, and manuals are included.   Under\n        warranty.   The keyboard on this machine is the best I've seen; I\n\tprefer it to the keyboard on most desktop units. I typically\n        get 3-4 hours of battery life.  The battery recharges in 2 hours to \n        full charge.   The machine is quite speedy; I run OS\/2 2.1beta\n\ton it currently and will leave this operating system installed unless\n\tyou prefer MS-DOS 5.0 (included).\n   \n        I'll include a padded carrying case, also made by Toshiba.\n\nPrice\/terms:\n\n\t$1900 (semi-firm), certified check.    If outside of Columbus, I will\n\tpay for COD shipping.\n\n\nPlease respond with all queries to 'grichard@cis.ohio-state.edu' or\ncall 614-261-0902.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"speaking of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin:\n\n\nYes.  For examples of this in the writings of the early fathers, consider:\n\n    You alone and your Mother\n        are more beautiful than any others;\n    For there is no blemish in you,\n        nor any stains upon your Mother.\n    Who of my children\n        can compare in beauty to these?\n                -- St. Ephrem the Syrian, Nisibene Hymns, 27:8, around\n                   A.D. 370\n\n    Lift me up not from Sara but from Mary, a Virgin not only undefiled \n    but a Virgin whom grace has made inviolate, free of every stain of sin.\n                -- St. Ambrose, \"Commentary on Psalm 118\", 22:30, ca. A.D. 388\n\nThere are many others.\n\n\nNo.  We have, for instance:\n\n    Was there ever anyone of any breeding who dared to speak the name of\n    Holy Mary, and being questioned, did not immediately add, \"the Virgin\"?\n    ... And to Holy Mary, Virgin is invariably added, for that Holy Woman\n    remains undefiled.\n                -- St. Epiphanus of Salamis, \"Panacea against all heresies\",\n                   between A.D. 374-377.\n\n    We surely cannot deny that you were right in correcting the doctrine\n    about children of Mary ... For the Lord Jesus would not have chosen\n    to be born of a virgin if He had judged that she would be so incontinent\n    as to taint the birthplace of the Body of the Lord, home of the Eternal\n    King, with the seed of human intercourse.  Anyone who proposes this is\n    merely proposing ... that Christ could not be born of a virgin.\n                -- Pope St. Siricius, Letter to Anysius, Bishop of \n                   Thessalonica, A.D. 392\n\nNote that St. Augustine's conversion to Christianity was in A.D. 387.  I\ndon't know offhand when his election as bishop of Hippo was, but I'm quite\nsure it was after 392.  The belief in Mary's perpetual virginity originated\nlong before Augustine's time.  We hold that it originated with the \nApostles.\n\nStrictly speaking, however, Mary's perpetual virginity is independent\nof her Immaculate Conception.  Mary could have been Immaculately \nConceived and not remained a virgin; she could have remained a virgin\nand not been Immaculately Conceived.\n\n\nNo.  It has been held in the Church since ancient times that original\nsin was transmitted at conception, when a person's life begins.\nBiology had nothing to do with it.  Prayerfully reflecting on the\ntruth of Mary's sinlessness, and the means by which God could have\nachieved this, the Church arrived at the truth of the Immaculate\nConception.  Thus, the Immaculate Conception is not a new doctrine,\nbut the logical result of our understanding of two old ones.\n\nThe celebration of the Feast of the Immaculate Conception itself was\ngiven by Pope Sixtus IV (1471-84) and the Feast was made a precept\nfeast of the Church by Pope Clement XI (1700-21).\n\n\nNo.  First of all, Lourdes is private revelation, and doctrine is not\nbased on private revelation.  The most that private revelation can do\nis enhance and deepen our understanding of existing public revelation,\nwhich ended with the death of St. John the Apostle.\n\nSecond, the \"case for the doctrine\" was irreformably sealed in 1854 \nwith the ex cathedra promulgation of the Bull \"Ineffabilis Deus\" by\nPope Pius IX.  This meant that the doctrine was formally recognized as\na dogma; a dogma, by definition, cannot change and is required to be\nbelieved by the faithful.\n\nThe apparition at Lourdes happened in 1858, four years later.  The most\nthat might be claimed is that Lourdes gave the infallible proclamation\nof 1854 a sort of heavenly stamp of approval, but the Church has never\nclaimed that, nor shall she.\n\nIn Christ's Peace,\n\nBrad Kaiser\n(bradk@isdgsm.eurpd.csg.mot.com)","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"jsn104 is jeremy scott noonan\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Recently I got a case of Hot Shots '93 cards.  Unfortunately I had\nnot planned on keeping all of them.  I sort of got stuck with the\ncase.  (I'm not going to mention any names, though.)\n\nSo, I am trying to sell off most or all (minus a set for myself).\n\nIf you have any interest in a set, a box, or any singles, please let\nme know.\n\nThe set has 250 cards.  Each card features a great looking woman in\nvarious stages of dress.  Some nude, semi-nude, lingerie, dressed.\n99 percent are gorgeous, I feel.\n\nThere are 4 subsets:\n\nGirl, Girl, Girls   1 through 9\nPromo cards   251 through 259 (also numbered 1 of 9 through 9 of 9)\nEmperor's All-Stars   269 through 277\nStripping Empress   260 through 268\n\nAlso, I am supposed to be getting some holograms soon as well.\n\nOh, and lastly, I have a very few error cards and a few cards\nthat were originally intended to be used as card #1, but the\ncompany changed their mind.  None of these cards are easy to get.\n\nAnyway, if you have some interest in any of these cards, please\ndrop me a line, as I am most eager to sell a bunch off.\n\nOh, and if you are interested, I also have 1 set of Hot Shots '92\nleft, and about 2 sets of California Dreaming cards as well.\n\nAnd lastly, I have promo cards for all of the cards I have\nmentioned, and holograms as well.  Not a lot, though.\n\n\nJohn Heiden\nal166@cleveland.freenet.edu","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"  Steve Tuttle was traded from the Blues to TB in the before the start of this\nseason along with Pat Jablonski, for future considerations. He played for\nMilwaukee of the IHL, then got traded from TB to QUE along with Michel Mongeau.\nHe's currently playing with Halifax of the AHL.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nNow where did I put my little red book?  Or was that green?\n\nJim","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\tYep! I did one yesterday on my shaftie Vision... I should mention  \nthat I had a pillon that helped rotate the bike over :-) . The wheelie was  \nthe result of a necessarily agressive acceleration manouver through an  \nintersection (damn San Antonio cagers tend to be REALLY bad drivers).  \n\n\tHowever, I have done one by myself, it just takes a lot of  \npre-clutch dump rev action.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"HI\n\nI`m looking for some assistance in locating information on how to run\nwin 3.1 on a CGA monitor. The setup suggests you look at the manual, but\nthe guy I`m helping is part of a large office and computer assistance\nmust be booked in advance, therefore he cant get windows onto his CGA\nsystem. \n\nThanx in anticipation","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\nBelow I have the copy of some source I am using to setup a user-specified color-\nmap for X R11 V4. I am attempting to create user defined colors in terms of\nRGB color ranges. The calls to XAllocColor prove ineffective. \n\nVariables are defined are as follows:\n\n    int                 i, j, k, lut_index\n    color_type          min_image, max_image;\n    color_type          image Pixel_Value_Range, last_image, start, end, jump,\n                        lut [ 512 ];\n    unsigned long       pixel;\n    double              red, green, blue;\n\n\/*\n * Data structure used by color operations\n *\ntypedef struct {\n        unsigned long pixel;\n        unsigned short red, green, blue;\n        char flags;  \/-* do_red, do_green, do_blue *-\/\n        char pad;\n} XColor;\n***************\/\n    XColor              rgbcolor, hardwarecolor;\n\n\nWith color_type defined as { double red, double green, double blue }.\n\nWhat I need to know is how to set [is it possible] the values in hardwarecolor\nto work within the call to XAllocColor:\n\n    start.red = (int) 255 * min_image.red;\t\/* 0..255 *\/\n    end.red   = (int) 255 * max_image.red;\t\/* 0..255 *\/\n    jump.red  = (int) (( end.red - start.red ) \/ 7);\n\n    start.green = (int) 255 * min_image.green;  \/* 0..255 *\/\n    end.green   = (int) 255 * max_image.green;  \/* 0..255 *\/\n    jump.green  = (int) (( end.green - start.green ) \/ 7);\n\n    start.blue = (int) 255 * min_image.blue;    \/* 0..255 *\/\n    end.blue   = (int) 255 * max_image.blue;    \/* 0..255 *\/\n    jump.blue  = (int) (( end.blue - start.blue ) \/ 7);\n\n    lut_index = 0;\n    for (i=0; i<8; i++)\n        for (j=0; j<8; j++)\n            for (k=0; k<8; k++)\n                {\n                if ( i == 0 || jump.red < 1 )\n                    lut [ lut_index ].red = start.red;\n                else\n                    lut [ lut_index ].red = jump.red * i - 1;\n\n                if ( j == 0 || jump.green < 1 )\n                    lut [ lut_index ].green = start.green;\n                else\n                    lut [ lut_index ].green = jump.green * j - 1;\n\n                if ( k == 0 || jump.blue < 1 )\n                    lut [ lut_index ].blue = start.blue;\n                else\n                    lut [ lut_index ].blue = jump.blue* k - 1;\n\n                hardwarecolor.red   = (short) lut [ lut_index ].red;\n                hardwarecolor.green = (short) lut [ lut_index ].green;\n                hardwarecolor.blue  = (short) lut [ lut_index ].blue;\n                hardwarecolor.pixel = lut_index;\n\nprintf(\"HW1: i = %d :  %d %d %d: pixel = %d \\n\", lut_index, hardwarecolor.red,\n                hardwarecolor.green, hardwarecolor.blue, hardwarecolor.pixel );\n\n                status = XAllocColor ( dpy, colormap, &hardwarecolor );\nprintf(\"HW2: i = %d: %d %d %d: pixel = %d \\n\", lut_index, hardwarecolor.red,\n                hardwarecolor.green, hardwarecolor.blue, hardwarecolor.pixel );\n                if ( status != 0 )\n                    {\n                    XSetForeground ( dpy, gc, hardwarecolor.pixel );\n                    XFillRectangle ( dpy, win, gc, 1, 1, MAXCOLUMN, MAXROW );\n                    XFlush ( dpy );\n                    sleep (10);\n                printf(\"%d: %f %f %f at %d \\n\", lut_index, lut [ lut_index ].re\n                            lut [ lut_index ].green, lut [ lut_index ].blue,\n                            hardwarecolor.pixel );\n                    }\n                lut_index = lut_index + 1;\n                }\n\nThanks in advance to anyone who can help me with this problem.\n\nSincerely,\n\n\tJohn F. Duggan\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nYou deliberately deleted a line! I don't remember how wrote it, but I remember \nwhat he wrote. He wrote\n\nHappy 45 birth day of Israel!\n\nand I worte:\n\n\nIs this means that  the number of the people have been killed by Israel are so\nhigh that you can not keep the track of, or this is also a part of Zionism \nideology that you don't need to keep  the track of the people you kill? \nJust kill!\n\nHamid\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"--> A humble response to a letter by G. Scott Braley written 04-21-93  20:43.\n\n\n GSB> a 286 upgrade would probably cost about $50, 386 about $150 or so.  \n GSB> Coprocessors or accelerator cards would cost at least that much.\n\n'Tis true!  I just saw an add for 286\/20 motherboards for $80.  I have seen\nwhole 286\/12 systems, complete with case, power supply, keyboard, floppy,\nand mono card\/monitor going for $250.\n\n... \"He was a man, all and all, I shall not look upon his like again.\"\n--- Blue Wave\/QWK v2.10\n ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nDevelopment of what?  In-house apps?  Maybe, but  certainly not apps\nto be sold on an open market.  Statistics like that are laughable,\nbecause they may simply mean that there are not enough shrink-wrapped\nusable apps for UNIX and they have to be developed disproportionately\noften as compared to the installed UNIX base.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n*retching noises*  Talk about \"out of the frying pan and into the fire\" :)\n\n\n\nI'm pretty sure SCSI is faster.  Along with a lot better compatability.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI just called them and they said the order went out on the 13th.  They're\nputting a UPS tracer on it.  Watch, it'll be waiting for me at home\ntonight. :-)\n\nDean\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I came across the following notice in the Denver Post classified secction\nthis morning (April 26, 1993):\n\n\\begin{quote}\n\nNOTICE:\n\nThe Denver Post will no longer knowingly accept any advertisement to buy\nor sell assault weapons.  The Denver Post finds that the use of assault\nweapons poses a threat to the health, safety, and security of its readers.\n\n\\end{quote}\n\nNow I suppose the Post is within its rights to refuse such ads.  However,\nthe second sentence is so noxious, I feel compelled to bring it to the \nattention of the t.p.g\/c.g readership.  \n\nI called the Post classified number (825-2525) and expressed my displeasure. \nAccording to the supervisor I spoke to, the Post was reacting to public\ncomplaints regarding the running of assult weapon ads.  However, she said\nthe paper was keeping track of the reaction to the change in policy.  I \nstrongly encourage Denver Post readers to call and make their feelings known.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"The Colorado Daily recently reprinted the Wall Street Journal's article\non Paxton Quigley, including the nefarious little paragraph the Journal\ntacked onto the end.  After recieving much assistance from various T.P.G.\ntype folks, I wrote a letter to the editor criticizing this last paragraph,\nand surprise, surprise, surprise, they published it.  The text follows.\nThe Colorado Daily, btw, is the University of Colorado (Boulder) student\n(I think) newspaper... not exactly a big coup, but every little bit, i guess...\n\n(The title was the only thing they changed\/added)\n\n\"Gun Stats\"\n\nThe Daily recently reprinted an article from the\nWall Street Journal, primarily concerned with Paxton\nQuigley, author of \"Armed and Female.\"  The article,\nin turn, cites a misleading statistic that was originally\nreported in the New England Journal of Medicine.  The\narticle states, \"A study... found that a gun in the home\nwas 43 times more likely to be used to kill its owner,\nspouse, a friend, or child than to kill an intruder.\"  This\nis an often-quoted statistic, and it is misleading for sev-\neral reasons, outlined below:\n\nThe study gives the impression that, if you own a \ngun, the likelihood that you will successfully use it to \ndefend yourself is less than that of the gun being turned\nagainst you.  The study, however, fails to take into\naccount cases where a law-abiding citizen uses a gun \nto thwart a crime, without actually killing the perpe-\ntrator.\n\nThe study actually refers to 'acquaintances' rather\nthan 'friend'.  This would include the friendly neigh-\nborhood thug who shows up like clockwork, every\nmonth, the second your grandmother cashes her social\nsecurity check.  Possibly an acquaintance, but hardly a\nfriend.\n\nThe NEJM study is based on the immediate dis-\nposition of cases and fails to take into account cases\noriginally filed as homicides that were later ruled to be\nself-defense.  Especially considering the small sample \nsize (396), taking these events into account has a sub-\nstantial effect on the 43:1 ratio quoted.\n\nCriminologist Gary Kleck gives us a slightly dif-\nerent statistic: a gun is 33 times more likely to be \nused, successfully, by a private citizen against an \naggressor than it is to kill anyone at all.  Further, per-\nsons defending themselves from aggression by using a \ngun fare better than those who resist vicimization by\nsome other means, or who offer no resistance at all.\nStatistics available from the FBI and other agencies \nalso show that a gun is 245 times more likely to be\nused by a non-criminal to defend against criminal threat\nthan to be used to commit criminal homicide, 535 times\nmore likely to be used to defend against a criminal\nthreat than to accidentally kill anybody, and 50 times\nmore likely to defend against criminal threat than to be\nused to commit suicide.\n\nIt is well to keep in mind that nearly anything can \nbe proved by uncritical quotation of statistics.  One has\nto consider carefully what questions were asked by\nthose gathering the data before one can draw an accu-\nrate conclusion from them.\n\nD.F. Taylor\nCU Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry\n\n\n--\nSpooksmoke: Revolution, Assasination, Thorium, Cobalt-60, Clintin, CIA, NSA, SHC\n  DoD #202 \/ loki@acca.nmsu.edu \/ liberty or death \/ taylordf@ucsu.colorado.edu \n                 Send me something even YOU can't read...\n-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----\nVersion: 2.2","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nIt already happened as far as I know... I got some email about three\nweeks ago saying it was coming, and sure enough, a week after that the\nDuos dropped in price.  I think the Duo 210 4\/80 is now around\nUS$1,8xx.\n\nThe educational prices have dropped, and I imagine others as well, but\nI haven't really checked around since I boycott the local NecroCenter\nfor reasons that extend over the past 13 years.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson) writes,\n(missing the entire point of my post):\n\n\nNo joke.\n\n\nNo,_you_jumped to_that_conclusion.  It's actually an argument as\nto how to accomplish the societal good of discouraging drug use\nwithout violating individual rights.\n\n\nNo. _You_missed the point.  The point is, the \"War On Drugs\"\nis a failure, and is counterproductive.\n\n\nBut, they are not free to be stupid and injure other people.\nAdmittedly, the fetal right-to-life is outside the scope of\nthis discussion.  However, it's ridiculous to assert, as you\napparently do, that cocaine has_no effect_on the developing\nfetal nervous system.  Caffiene and nicotine have fetal effects\ntoo, why should cocaine be any exception?\n\n\nIf you had read my article before writing your knee-jerk response\nyou would have seen that this is exactly what I advocated.\n\n\nNo shit, Sherlock.\n\n[...]\n\nThank you.  How could you have missed the point so utterly?\nWhat_have_you been smoking?\n\n\nObviously, importers will not be buying drugs in the U.S., under\nU.S. jurisdiction.  Use your remaining brain cells.\n\n\nO.K., I'll spell it out for you.  \"Barter economy\" means that\ndrug users will be permitted to grow or synthesize chemically\nanything they choose, or to buy it outside the U.S. and bring\nit in, if it won't grow here.  They will also be permitted to\ntrade with other drug users for drugs other than the ones they\nthemselves grow or manufacture.  They will not, however be able\nto legally sell their drugs for money.  Both manufacture and\nimportation of noncommercial drugs will be taxed, to discourage\ntheir use. \"This is your brain on drugs. Any questions?\"\n\n\nPardon me, but possession\/use of these drugs is still a crime!\nYou cannot analogize the rates at which drug users would seek\ntreatment, and the comparative ease with which it could be\nmade available today, when these drugs are illegal to possess\/use,\nwith what it would be were they_not_illegal to possess\/use.\nDecriminalizing possession and use makes treatment_much_easier.\nDrug dealers are exploiting the weaknesses of those persons who\nare prone to addiction, and as such, the drug users should be\nleft alone, not thrown in prison along with their victimizers.\nDrug_dealers_are the criminals, and should be treated as such.\nDrug addiction does not absolve you of responsiblity for your\ncriminal actions, however.\n\n\nThe drug test of an arrested suspect is voluntary, not coerced,\nand does not therefore constitute violation of Amendment V.\nThose convicted who are drug users, as evidenced by the test,\nare in need of treatment for their problem.  Institutionalization\nof these adddicted criminals is, I would argue, the best way to\nhelp them straighten out.  If they refuse the test and are convicted,\ntheir sentence can be appropriately harsher, since they, unlike the\naddict, have no \"excuse\" for their crimes.\n\n\nWhy not?  My objective is to discourage drug use_and_criminal\nbehavior.  If fewer criminals do drugs out of fear of getting a\nharsher sentence if they are convicted, why is that not a good\nthing?  If fewer drug dealers (who are still criminals, BTW)\ncan find victims, why is that not a good thing?  If fewer drug\nusers, such as drunks, 'potheads,' etc., commit crimes out of\nfear of being cut off from their sources of supply, why is that\nnot a good thing?\n\nI'm certainly willing to debate my position.\nYou have to read it carefully though.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nHELLO,\nNew to this area so....\nI have read about some upgrades for the LC II, Doing some modification\nto make the thing run faster!\nIs the Performa 400 about the same as an lc and if so would the homemade\nspeed upgrade work??\nThanks\nBrad\n \n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I want All-Star Tickets does anyone know how I can get\nsome?\n\nAre they for public sale or are they sold out?\n\nOr do you just have to work for a company with some\n\nAnyway any answers would be appreciated.\n\nPlease E-mail me.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n     And you're the guy that doesn't know that illiterate people can't write \ncoherent sentences. Does that make you superior somehow?\n\n                                        Steve\n[]","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
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{"text":"This question derives from the Waco incident:\n\tCould CS (\"gas\") particles create an allergic response which would \nresult in laryngospasm and asphyxiation?- especially in children.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
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{"text":"\nWilliams does not like hitting cleanup!!\nSecondly, Bonds and Clark (in that order) are a lot more productive with\nrunners in scoring position than Matt \"I am streaky, free swinger\" Williams.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\tHmmm... what about the genocide conducted by the Ottoman Empire\naganist the Armenians living in Turkey.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nYou should be aware that the US Army was called to \"fight\"\n(and did) WW I veterans (bonus marchers) who marched on\nDC demanding bonuses they were promised for service.\nBecaues of the depression, they wanted them early.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Could some please refer me to someone who can perform PRK (Photo Refractive \nKeratostomy) in Canada (preferably eastern portion).  I've looked in\nthe yellow pages with little success, and if someone has had a good (or\nbad, for that matter) experience, that would be especially helpful if you\ncould please let me know.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"To: All\n\nGVC Technologies v.32 9600bps modem\n\n9600\/4800\/2400\/1200\/300 bps operation with Automatic Speed\nSelection.\nCCITT v.32\/v.22bis\/v.22\/v.21 full-duplex operation.\nAsynchronous operation.\nAuto-answer & auto-dial: automatically switch between data and\nvoice transmission.\nSupports COM port 1-4, and IRQ 2-5\nAnalog\/digital\/remote digital loopback test modes.\nCommunication by Crosstalk software and manual included.\nModem manual & warranty registration card included.\n(Optional CCITT v.42bis\/v.42\/MNP 2-5 module, providing error\ncorrection and data compression to increase throughput up to\n38,400 bps, available directly from the manufacturer.)\nMint condition.  $125.\nDO NOT REPLY TO: dino.fiabane@pics.com.  Your mail will bounce if\nit is sent to that address.  Instead, please reply only via\nprivate E-Mail to:  pics!dino.fiabane@twwells.com\n(Since my home BBS can only handle personal messages through\nE-Mail for the time being, any further replies from me to you\nwill also arrive via E-Mail instead of by way of a regular\nnewsgroup.)\nDino Fiabane, 150 Weston Drive, Cherry Hill, NJ  08003-2132\nphone (609) 424-3836\n\n * SLMR 2.1a * reply to: pics!dino.fiabane@twwells.com  via E-Mail\n                                                                                           ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\tHave you checked Foley's book? The solutions are in chapter 13.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Hello,\na friend a mine has a commodore 386sx and we've put in that machine\na second harddisk, he now has 100+200 MB. But the problem is that\nthe 200MB harddisk isn't supported in the bios. Alas there's no user type\n47 in the setup. At the moment we use it as a 193MB type but there are\ngetting bad blocks on the harddisk :-<. Question: who knows a solution to this?\nI've seen a small program for this once in the BYTE, but I haven't been able\nto find this. Would speedstor or diskmanager work for this, I used these\nprograms quite a lot in the XT-days, but I don't have these anymore, Seagate\nused to ship diskmanager with each drive they sold.\n \nHelp will be greatly appreciated.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nPerhaps you should change your name to Clayton \"Mr Logic(NOT!)\" Cramer!\nPlease give evidence of the above statement or shut up.  I believe that I\nmay have answered that elsewhere, amongst your other ravings.\n\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Hey,\n\ncollection.  I am interested in buying any in good condition.  I am \nparticularly interested in any of the older, exotic models (eg five ] \ntransformers into one etc...  I am looking at paying around $20-$40 depending\nupon the model, size and original cost etc.  I will also pay airmail postage\nand packing.  I am also happy to buy any old sci-fi related toys eg robots,\nrocketships, micronauts etc... There is only one catch.  I live in New\nZealand so you have to be willing to post the items there.  I hop that\nsomeone can help me out. \n\n\nCheers","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nBad system disk.  (possibly too new a version for your historical\ncuriosity^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HFat Mac)\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nWhat about the land mines which have already been mentioned?\n\n\nOh, very neat.  Dismiss everything I say unless I can prove beyond a shadow\nof a doubt something which you yourself admit I can never prove to your\nsatisfaction.  Thanks, I'll stick to squaring circles.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"The most current orbital elements from the NORAD two-line element sets are\ncarried on the Celestial BBS, (513) 427-0674, and are updated daily (when\npossible).  Documentation and tracking software are also available on this\nsystem.  As a service to the satellite user community, the most current\nelements for the current shuttle mission are provided below.  The Celestial\nBBS may be accessed 24 hours\/day at 300, 1200, 2400, 4800, or 9600 bps using\n8 data bits, 1 stop bit, no parity.\n\nElement sets (also updated daily), shuttle elements, and some documentation\nand software are also available via anonymous ftp from archive.afit.af.mil\n(129.92.1.66) in the directory pub\/space.\n\nSTS 55     \n1 22640U 93 27  A 93117.91666666  .00044808  00000-0  13489-3 0    63\n2 22640  28.4614 259.3429 0005169 259.6342  61.8074 15.90673799   201","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":": While it's possible that it's a ham radio transmitter that you're\n: hearing, it isn't likely - every bit of signal that doesn't go out the\n: antenna is wasted, as far as a ham is concerned, and most hams are\n\nIt is the radiated signal that would cause the problem.\n\n: technically competent to ensure that they don't waste any signal if they\n: can possibly avoid it.  To get their ham license, they had to pass a\n: government exam that tests them on that point, among others.\n: \n: However, you could be hearing a radio transmitter for sure - there are\n: lots of other services where the operators AREN'T required to be\n: technically competent - Citizens Band (\"CB\"), for example.\n\nThere is nothing in the Amateur Radio Tests that requires an technical\ncompetence at all. It is a simple matter to memorize all the questions\nand answers.  However, that said, most Hams that I know do spend quite\na bit of time gaining some technical skill.\n\n: Listen to the interference.  If you hear voices clearly, it almost\n: certainly ISN'T ham radio, and might well be CB.  If you can record a\n\nDon't count on that.\n\n: bit of it, you could take the tape over to a local ham operator's house\n: and ask him for his opinion of what you're hearing.  Most communities\n\nYou cannot do that legally. However, you can ask a ham over to listen.\nIf the interference occurs at a specific time each day, then it would\nbe possible to do such scheduling.  If nothing else, you could invite\nthe ham over to transmit from your driveway, to see if he interferes.\nIf he does, then you probably need to have your equipment worked on to\nmake it immune to rf interference.\n\n: have a ham radio interference committee whose members are most willing\n: to help you resolve interference complaints.  Look in the phone book, or\n: ask at the local ham radio store, or call the FCC for contact info.\n\nThe FCC may, or may not, have such information. They have enough to do\nwithout getting calls for such information. If nothing else, call your\ncity offices or police department (general business number). They should\nhave the name of a local ham contact.\n\n: If it's a ham, he's more than likely willing to help get rid of the\n: problem.  After all, it would be his signal he's wasting.  If it isn't,\n: the interference committee or the FCC may be able to suggest solutions.\n\nSee above - your concept of wasted signal is erroneous. If his rig is\ntransmitting properly, then the chance of interference (with the exception\nof harmonic television interference) is the greatest - since he is putting\nout the strongest signal.\n\n: It is unfortunately the case that a transmitting station that is\n: operating perfectly legally could possibly cause intereference to a\n: piece of consumer audio or TV equipment just because the manufacturer of\n: the consumer equipment cut corners on one little section of the device\n: that wouldn't affect one person in a thousand, but which bites you.\n: Often that can be remedied for just a few pennies by a knowledgeable\n: person, perhaps even the person operating the transmitter you're\n: hearing.\n\nUnfortunately, most consumer equipment is succeptable - it is all poorly\ndesigned.\n\n: (BTW: hams are ALLOWED amplifiers; CB isn't.  \"illegal ham amplifier\"\n: doesn't compute.)\n\nIt does, but not for a mobile radio. There are very few mobile rigs that\ncould power a 1500 watt amplifier.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Enough, already. Let's take this discussion to some other newsgroup\nthat's more appropriate. Most of us are tired of it and would like to \nget back to old cars, IMHO.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nI would like to see his reasoning behind this.  You may have gotten \n\"burned\" by natural disaster prophecies down there, but that\ndoes not mean that every natural disaster\/judgement prophecy is\nfalse.  Take a quick look at the book of Jeremiah and it is obvious\nthat judgement prophecies can be valid.  here in the US, it seems like\nwe might have more of a problem with positive prophecies, though I\nam sure there may be a few people who are too into judgement.\n\nSometimes God does give words that are difficult to swallow.  The\nrelative positiveness of a prophecy is not necesarily grounds to\ndismiss it.  Much of the OT is not happy stuff.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I need the jumper settings for the achieve io card...usually found in\nxt's.  It is affecting my video card and forcing the machine into 40 col\nmode.  Any help?\n\n                -The Ghoul Hath Spoken","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Broadcasting amplified sounds of tortured rabbits?\n\nBurning alive men, women, and children?\n\nWe have on our hands here some truly sick puppies.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Regarding the horror stories about DOS6\/DOUBLEDISK and STACKER 2.?\nkilling hard drives:","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Have anyone dealt with \"Hardware that Fits\" before.  I  have seen \ntheir ad in both MacWorld and MacUser and  decided  to  try  them \nwhen I needed a new disk. The  result  was  not satisfactory  and\nI was just wondering if I was just an isolated case.\n\nI like to send a letter to the president of \"Hardware that Fits\".\nDo  anyone  know the address? Is it the same address as the one I\nreturn the products to?\n\n\n-- \nMei-Mei Su\n===========================================================================\nSoftware Engineer                             email : mms@ltx_tr.portal.com \nLTX Corporation                                       meisu@netcom.com","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nYou would be arrested as an international arms trafficker.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Buffalo is up 2-0 is the series with Boston, and the reason....Grant Fuhr ?\n  Fuhr is playoff hungry, and he's proving once again why they call him\n  money goaltender. Fuhr might not be one of the best goaltenders in the\n  league anymore (Statistically at least), but he's proving that he can\n  make the big save at the right time.\n  \n  The Leafs should have kept Fuhr, and probably would have had a chance \n  against powerhouse Detroit. But again.......where was Andreychoke in game 1 ?\n\n  I can see the huge smile on Gerald's face after Fuhr's performance.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nI have been using the JOIN command for many years now, mostly with good\nsuccess in duplicating unix-style file mounts.  You will hear lots of\npeople cursing JOIN because they confuse it with the dos APPEND command\n(a truely gnarly hack), but don't believe them.  You also will hear\npeople saying that Microsoft recommends that you not use JOIN.  But, in\nMicrosoft's Windows 4 Workgroups Resource toolkit, the following appears:\n\n  \"JOIN, an MS-DOS utility, works fine with Windows for Workgroups 3.1 if\n  you do not change the state of the joined drives during a Windows for\n  Workgroups 3.1 session. This includes adding or removing joined drives\n  from within Windows for Workgroups. We recommend that you do not use\n  JOIN when running Windows Setup or Windows for Workgroups 3.1.\"\n\nWithin this caveat, JOIN appears to be valid under windows.  However, I\nhave found a couple of applications that don't deal well with filesystems\nthat have been \"mounted\" using join.\n\nIn particular, the worst offender is Word for Windows 2.0x.  It gets very\nconfused when you edit and then try to save a file on a joined drive. It\nwants to create the saved file as ~NNNNN.tmp in the current dir, then\ndelete the old file and rename the ~NNNNN.tmp file to the *.doc file.\n\nUnfortunately, WfW usually writes the ~NNNNN.tmp file in some idiotic\nplace other than the current directory (often in the root dir of the\njoined filesystem, but not always).  Then, after deleting the original\n*.doc file, it can't find the ~NNNNN.tmp file to rename it.  Unless you\nsearch your disk systems, the document is gone.\n\nI have also found subtle problems using the MKS toolkit from a DOS box\nwhen JOINed filesystems are present.  I used to join c:\\temp with a 4meg\nramdisk, but MKS sometimes gets confused when doing an \"ls\" on the c:\\temp\ndir, and misses some files in the temp dir.  (This is difficult to \nreproduce, but it goes away totally when JOIN is not used.)  I think\nthis is a Windows problem, rather than MKS's, since it works OK under raw\nDOS.\n\nSo, I would suggest that you can use JOIN, but be aware that it may not\nbe as robust you would like.\n\nWouldn't it be real great to \"mount\" network drives (i.e. Z:) under the main\nfile tree, rather than having all those darned drive letters? Unfortunately,\nJOIN won't let you do it.  There was talk on the net about a simple patch\nto let JOIN work on network drives, but I don't remember the source.\n\nIt's too bad the JOIN command is not better implemented, since it would\navoid using all those stupid drive letters.  I realize that MessDos was\nmeant for casual, even ignorant users, so \"mounting\" all the drives in\none file tree might be confusing. But, it looks like MS is going to carry\nthis over into windows NT (another OS meant for casual, even igorant \nusers -- NOT!).  With all it's old family system baggage, maybe MS needs\na recovery group so they can get on with life :-(.\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n    But no one (or at least, not many people) are trying to pass off God\nas a scientific fact.  Not so with Kirlian photography.  I'll admit that\nit is possible that some superior intelligence exists elsewhere, and if\npeople want to label that intelligence \"God\", I'm not going to stop\nthem.  Anyway, let's _not_ turn this into a theological debate.  ;-)\n\n\n    Read alt.fan.robert.mcelwaine sometime.  I've never been so\nclosed-minded before subscribing to that group.  :)\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nHow about the following scholarly source?\n\nSource: Pierre Oberling, \"The Road to Bellapais: The Turkish Cypriot\n        Exodus to Northern Cyprus\", Social Science Monographs, Boulder,\n        1982, ISBN 88033-000-7.\n\n\nWell, I am forced to disagree with you. The Greeks started massacring \nthe Turkish population on Cyprus in 1974. In 1974, Turkiye stepped into \nCyprus to preserve the lives of the Turkish population there. This is \nnothing but a simple historical fact. Unfortunately, the intervention \nwas too late at least for some of the victims. Mass graves containing \nnumerous bodies of women and children already showed what fate had been \nplanned for a peaceful minority.\n\nThe people of Turkiye know quite well that Greece and the Greek Cypriots \nwill never abandon the idea of hellenizing Cyprus and will remain \neternally hopeful of uniting it with Greece, someday, whatever the \ncost to the parties involved. The history speaks for itself. Greece was \nthe sole perpetrator of invasion on that island when it sent its troops \non July 15, 1974 in an attempt to topple the legitimate government of \nArchibishop Makarios.\n\nThe release of Nikos Sampson, a member of EOKA [National Organization\nof Cypriot Fighters] and a convicted terrorist, shows that the\n'enosis' mentality continues to survive in Greece. One should not\nforget that Sampson dedicated his life to annihilating the Turks\nin Cyprus, committed murder to achieve this goal, and tried to\ndestroy the island's independence by annexing it to Greece. Of\ncourse, the Greek governments will have to bear the consequences \nfor this irresponsible conduct.\n\nTurkish Cypriots are simply seeking guarantees that will preclude a\nrepeat performance by the fanatical cadres of the Greeks' EOKA. If \nsuch assurances are not perfectly implemented, there is every reason \nto expect that the local Greeks will be misguided enough to perpetrate \ntheir past mistakes. On such an occasion, the Turkish side may not find \nit satisfactory to act with reluctance to go any further than before, \nfor it is unacceptable to remain always defensive against cyclical \nvicious attacks. Therefore it would be better to have a true federation\nof two separate sections living in obligatory peace, rather than another \narmed confrontation that would be started by the Greeks and obligatorily \nbut decisively terminated by the Turks. \n\nThe present Greek government is trying to tyrannize the Turkish population \nin western Thrace by forbidding it its ethnic and religious rights, which \nwere established through international treaties. One might be better\nadvised to remember that misadventures against Turkiye do not serve \nGreece well.\n\nAn offer of membership in the European Common Market as bait for concessions \nthat may doom the Turks in Cyprus to extinction is not a viable course for \nGreece or her friends. Neither Turkish lives nor Turkish honor has been \nplaced on the bidding block to be sold for commercial gain.\n\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"O.K.  It would be a shame for Cards fans on the net\nto go through the 1993 championship season without a \nmailing list to talk on so I would be willing to look\nat starting one.\n\nExcept there's one little problem...\n\nI don't know the first thing about how to do it or \nwhat it requires in terms of resources or time.  So\nif some kind soul could e-mail me the particulars of\ngetting starting and managing a mail list, I'd see\nif it would be feasible for me to start a Cards mailing \nlist.\n\nThanks in advance,\n\nDick Detweiler","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I have a project in mind that requires an array of LEDs that can be addressed\nindividually by a microprocessor (say, 16x16 or so).  Is there an LSI that\nis designed to drive an LED array (including RAM to hold the array state),\nor failing that, some way of multiplexing the display so I don't have to\nlatch a bit for each LED using a discrete latch?  (I want to avoid having\na huge board covered with 373s if possible!)  Thanks in advance...","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nAdobe Streamline has been out four a couple of years. It does a much better\njob than the autotracing functions which are built into illustration\nprograms. Of course, a higher resolution bitmap will produce a more\naccurate trace. The problem that I've run into though, is that when it\ncreates a detailed trace, it produces WAY more points than are necessary.\nIf I trace something manually, I use many less es points. The problem\nwith this is it produces BIG files which slow everything down, especially\nprinting.\n\nChuck","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Hi all,\n\nI've read the FAQ, I've fiddled around, but I am still having problems getting\nmy poor old HP9000\/300 to let me input\/display characters above 127.  I have \nthe following in my .Xdefaults:\n\nXTerm*Font     :   -adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-90-iso8859-1\n\nSo I believe that I have the correct font selected to use in xterm.  I have NOT\nset my LC_CTYPE environment variable because whatever I put it, it tells me that\nthat locale is not supported (apparently we have no additional locales defined,\nor at least, \/lib\/locale doesn't exist).  I can get some of the characters\nabove 127 to print out, but they are not where I'd expect them -- for example,\nAlt-v does not produce a u umlaut.  This leads me to believe that the fault\nlies with the stty settings, which are as follows:\n\nspeed 9600 baud; line = 0; susp <undef>; dsusp <undef>\nintr = ^C; quit = ^\\; erase = ^H; kill = ^K; swtch = ^@\neof = ^D; eol = ^@; min = 4; time = 0; stop = ^S; start = ^Q\n-parenb -parodd cs8 -cstopb hupcl cread -clocal -loblk -crts \n-ignbrk -brkint -ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr -igncr icrnl -iuclc \nixon -ixany ixoff -ienqak \nisig icanon iexten -xcase echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh \nopost -olcuc onlcr -ocrnl -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel -tostop \n\nAnyway, I've struggled with this off and on for a couple of weeks, and any help\nanyone could offer would be greatly appreciated.\n\n\n\t\t\t\t\tThanks!","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"(Please note followup)\nIn <1993Apr27.012045.8543@Virginia.EDU> ab4z@Virginia.EDU (\"Andi\n\n\nComparing Israel to Nazi Germany is name-calling of the lowest kind.\nPlease don't be disingenuous.\n\n\nDo civil libertarians make no distinction between the Nazis and\nIsrael?  Would you say that the Iraqis are like the Nazis?\n\nIf you do not make such distinctions, then all injustices are\nequally evil, and the world is a completely evil place.  In that\ncase, we may as well give up right now.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Cambridge  Audio  Integrated  Amp  P70  -  60W stereo solid \n     state, w\/box  List $600 want $340 \n\n     Cambridge Audio Tuner T50 - 8 presets list $350 want $200 \n\n     Cambridge  Audio  PreAmp  C70  - list $500 want $290 \n\n     Klipschorns  -  The Klipschorns Speakers...legends in there \n     own  time  list   ~$3k   want   $950...very   big,   corner \n     loaded..will play to unbelieveable volumes with very little \n     power. ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nThe phone number for GCC is 617-275-5800, I believe.  I don't have the\nnumber for Tech Support handy...","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\tI disagree.  By converting to another religion, you certainly\ndo change your cultural identity, and lose that part of you which was\nJewish.\n\n\n\n\n\tNo, there is a serious cultural and religios difference\nbetween renouncing the jewish god and accepting a new one.  \"Thou\nshall have no other gods before me.\"  Conversion is a violation of\nthis, atheism you might be able to wiggle around with.\n\nAdam\n\n\n\nAdam Shostack \t\t\t\t       adam@das.harvard.edu","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nGrant Fuhr rules! -).","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nRadiating from someone who is incapable of providing a single scholarly\nsource on his 'genocide apology program', it is rather amusing. Again,\nwhere is your non-existent list of scholars and scholarly sources?\nHere is mine:\n\n\"An appropriate analogy with the Jewish Holocaust might be the\n systematic extermination of the entire Muslim population of \n the independent republic of Armenia which consisted of at \n least 30-40 percent of the population of that republic. The \n memoirs of an Armenian army officer who participated in and \n eye-witnessed these atrocities was published in the U.S. in\n 1926 with the title 'Men Are Like That.' Other references abound.\"\n     (Rachel A. Bortnick - The Jewish Times - June 21, 1990)\n\n\n \"In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists a single Turkish soul.\n  It is in our power to tear away the veil of illusion that some of us\n  create for ourselves. It certainly is possible to severe the artificial\n  life-support system of an imagined 'ethnic purity' that some of us\n  falsely trust as the only structure that can support their heart beats \n  in this alien land.\"\n            (Sahak Melkonian - 1920 - \"Preserving the Armenian purity\") \n\n\n \"The crime of systematic cleansing by mass killing and extermination \n  of the Muslim population in Soviet Republic of Armenia, Karabag, \n  Bosnia and Herzegovina is an 'Islamic Holocaust' comparable to the \n  extermination of 2.5 million Muslims by the Armenian Government \n  during the WWI and of over 6 million European Jews during the WWII.\"\n                  (Tovfik Kasimov - Azeri Leader - September 25, 1992)\n                 \n\n \"Today's ethnic cleansing policies by the Serbian dictatorship against\n  Croatians and Muslims of Yugoslavia, as well as the Soviet Republic\n  of Armenia's against the Muslim population of neighboring Azerbaijan,\n  are really no different in their aspirations than the genocide \n  perpetrated by the Armenian Government 78 years ago against the\n  Turkish and Kurdish Muslims and Sephardic Jews living in these\n  lands.\"         (Cebbar Leygara - Kurdish Leader - October 13, 1992)\n\n\n\nSOME OF THE REFERENCES FROM EMINENT AUTHORS IN THE FIELD OF MIDDLE-EASTERN\nHISTORY AND EYEWITNESSES OF THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE OF 2.5 MILLION MUSLIMS\n\n1. \"The Armenian Revolutionary Movement\" by Louise Nalbandian,\n   University of California Press, Berkeley, Los Angeles, 1975\n\n2. \"Diplomacy of Imperialism 1890-1902\" by William I. Lenger, Professor\n   of History, Harward University, Boston, Alfred A. Knopt, New York, 1951\n\n3. \"Turkey in Europe\" by Sir Charles Elliot, \n   Edward & Arnold, London, 1900\n\n4. \"The Chatnam House Version and Other Middle-Eastern Studies\" by\n   Elie Kedouri, Praeger Publishers, New York, Washington, 1972\n\n5. \"The Rising Crescent\" by Ernest Jackh,\n   Farrar & Reinhart, Inc., New York & Toronto, 1944\n\n6. \"Spiritual and Political Evolutions in Islam\" by Felix Valyi,\n   Mogan, Paul, Trench & Truebner & Co., London, 1925\n\n7. \"The Struggle for Power in Moslem Asia\" by E. Alexander Powell,\n   The Century Co., New York, London, 1924\n\n8. \"Struggle for Transcaucasia\" by Feruz Kazemzadeh,\n   Yale University Press, New Haven, Conn., 1951\n\n9. \"History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey\" (2 volumes) by\n   Stanford J. Shaw, Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, New York,\n   Melbourne, 1977\n\n10.\"The Western Question in Greece and Turkey\" by Arnold J. Toynbee,\n   Constable & Co., Ltd., London, Bombay & Sydney, 1922\n\n11.\"The Caliph's Last Heritage\" by Sir Mark Sykes,\n   Macmillan & Co., London, 1915\n\n12.\"Men Are Like That\" by Leonard A. Hartill,\n   Bobbs Co., Indianapolis, 1928\n\n13.\"Adventures in the Near East, 1918-22\" by A. Rawlinson,\n   Dodd, Meade & Co., 1925\n\n14.\"World Alive, A Personal Story\" by Robert Dunn,\n   Crown Publishers, Inc., New York, 1952\n\n15.\"From Sardarapat to Serves and Lousanne\" by Avetis Aharonian,\n   The Armenian Review Magazine, Volume 15 (Fall 1962) through 17 \n   (Spring 1964)\n\n16.\"Armenia on the Road to Independence\" by Richard G. Hovanessian,\n   University of California Press, Berkeley, California, 1967\n\n17.\"The Rebirth of Turkey\" by Clair Price,\n   Thomas Seltzer, New York, 1923\n\n18.\"Caucasian Battlefields\" by W. B. Allen & Paul Muratoff,\n   Cambridge, 1953\n\n19.\"Partition of Turkey\" by Harry N. Howard,\n   H. Fertig, New York, 1966\n   \n20.\"The King-Crane Commission\" by Harry N. Howard,\n   Beirut, 1963\n\n21.\"United States Policy and Partition of Turkey\" by Laurence Evans,\n   John Hopkins University Press, Baltimore, 1965\n\n22.\"British Documents Related to Turkish War of Independence\" by Gothard \n   Jaeschke\n     \n1. Neside Kerem Demir, \"Bir Sehid Anasina Tarihin Soyledikleri: \n   Turkiye'nin Ermeni Meselesi,\" Hulbe Basim ve Yayin T.A.S., \n   Ankara, 1982. (Ingilizce Birinci Baski: 1980, \"The Armenian \n   Question in Turkey\")\n\n2. Veysel Eroglu, \"Ermeni Mezalimi,\" Sebil Yayinevi, Istanbul, 1978.\n\n3. A. Alper Gazigiray, \"Osmanlilardan Gunumuze Kadar Vesikalarla Ermeni\n   Teroru'nun Kaynaklari,\" Gozen Kitabevi, Istanbul, 1982.\n\n4. Dr. Kirzioglu M. Fahrettin, \"Kars Ili ve Cevresinde Ermeni Mezalimi,\"\n   Kardes Matbaasi, Ankara, 1970. \n\nT.C. Basbakanlik Osmanli Arsivi, Babiali, Istanbul:\n\na) Yildiz Esas Evraki\nb) Yildiz Perakende\nc) Irade Defterleri\nd) Cemaat-i Gayr-i Muslime Defterleri\ne) Meclisi Vukela Mazbatalari\nf) Dahiliye Nezareti, Kalem-i Mahsus Dosyalari\ng) Dahiliye Nezareti, Sifre Defterleri\nh) Babiali Evrak Odasi: Siyasi Kartonlar\ni) Babiali Evrak Odasi: Muhimme Kartonlari\n\nT.C. Disisleri Bakanligi, Hazine-i Evrak, Defterdarlik  \n\na) Harb-i Umumi\nb) Muteferrik Kartonlar\n\nBritish Archives:\n\na) Parliamentary Papers (Hansard): Commons\/Lords\nb) Foreign Office: Confidential Print: Various Collections\nc) Foreign Office: 424\/239-253: Turkey: Correspondence - Annual Reports\nd) Foreign Office: 608\ne) Foreign Office: 371, Political Intelligence: General Correspondence\nf) Foreign Office: 800\/240, Ryan Papers\ng) Foreign Office: 800\/151, Curzon Papers\nh) Foreign Office: 839: The Eastern Conference: Lausanne. 53 files\n\nIndia Office Records and Library, Blackfriars Road, London.\n\na) L\/Political and Security\/10\/851-855 (five boxes), \"Turkey: Treaty of\n   Peace: 1918-1923\"\nb) L\/P & S\/10\/1031, \"Near East: Turkey and Greece: Lausanne Conference,\n   1921-1923\"\nc) L\/P & S\/11\/154\nd) L\/P & S\/11\/1031\n\nFrench Archives\n\nArchives du ministere des Affaires entrangeres, Quai d'Orsay, Paris.\n\na) Documents Diplomatiques: Affaires Armeniens: 1895-1914 Collections\nb) Guerre: 1914-1918: Turquie: Legion d'Orient.\nc) Levant, 1918-1929: Armenie.\n\n\nOfficial Publications, Published Documents, Diplomatic Correspondence,\nAgreements, Minutes and Others\n\nA. Turkey (The Ottoman Empire and The Republic of Turkey)\n\nAkarli, E. (ed.); \"Belgelerle Tanzimat,\" (istanbul, 1978).\n(Gn. Kur., ATASE); \"Askeri Tarih Belgeleri Dergisi,\" V. XXXI (81),\n(Dec. 1982).\n----; \"Askeri Tarih Belgeleri Dergisi,\" V. XXXII (83),\n(Dec. 1983).\nHocaoglu, M. (ed.); \"Ittihad-i Anasir-i Osmaniye Heyeti Nizamnamesi,\"\n(Istanbul, 1912).\nMeray, S. L. (trans.\/ed.) \"Lozan Baris Konferansi: Tutanaklar-Belgeler,\"\n(Ankara, 1978), 2 vols.\nMeray, S. L.\/O. Olcay (ed.); \"Osmanli Imparatorlugu'nun Cokus Belgeleri;\nMondros Birakismasi, Sevr Andlasmasi, Ilgili Belgeler,\" (Ankara, 1977).\n(Osmanli Devleti, Dahiliye Nezareti); \"Aspirations et Agissements \nRevolutionnaires des Comites Armeniens avant et apres la proclamation\nde la Constitution Ottomane,\" (Istanbul, 1917).\n----; \"Ermeni Komitelerinin Amal ve Hareket-i Ihtilaliyesi: Ilan-i\nMesrutiyetten Evvel ve Sonra,\" (Istanbul, 1916).\n----; \"Idare-i Umumiye ve Vilayet Kanunu,\" (Istanbul, 1913).\n----; \"Muharrerat-i Umumiye Mecmuasi, V. I (Istanbul, 1914).\n----; \"Muharrerat-i Umumiye Mecmuasi, V. II (Istanbul, 1915).\n----; \"Muharrerat-i Umumiye Mecmuasi, V. III (Istanbul, 1916).\n----; \"Muharrerat-i Umumiye Mecmuasi, V. IV (Istanbul, 1917).\n(Osmanli Devleti, Hariciye Nezareti); \"Imtiyazat-i Ecnebiyye'nin\nLagvindan Dolayi Memurine Teblig Olunacak Talimatname,\" (Istanbul, 1915).\n(Osmanli Devleti, Harbiye Nezareti); \"Islam Ahalinin Ducar Olduklari\nMezalim Hakkinda Vesaike Mustenid Malumat,\" (Istanbul, 1919).\n----; (IV. Ordu) \"Aliye Divan-i Harbi Orfisinde Tedkik Olunan Mesele-yi\nSiyasiye Hakkinda Izahat,\" (Istanbul, 1916).\nTurkozu, H. K. (ed.); \"Osmanli ve Sovyet Belgeleriyle Ermeni Mezalimi,\"\n(Ankara, 1982).\n----; \"Turkiye Buyuk Millet Meclisi Gizli Celse Zabitlari,\" (Ankara, 1985),\n4 vols.\n\nRussia\n\nAdamof, E. E. (ed.); \"Sovyet Devlet Arsivi Belgeleriyle Anadolu'nun \nTaksimi Plani,\" (tran. H. Rahmi, ed. H. Mutlucag), (Istanbul, 1972).\n\nAltinay, A. R.; \"Iki Komite - Iki Kital,\" (Istanbul, 1919).\n----; \"Kafkas Yollarinda Hatiralar ve Tahassusler,\" (Istanbul, 1919).\n----; \"Turkiye'de Katolik Propagandasi,\" Turk tarihi Encumeni Mecmuasi,\nV. XIV\/82-5 (Sept. 1924).\nAsaf Muammer; \"Harb ve Mesulleri,\" (Istanbul, 1918).\nAkboy, C.; \"Birinci Dunya Harbinde Turk Harbi, V. I: Osmanli Imparatorlugu'nun\nSiyasi ve Askeri Hazirliklari ve Harbe Girisi,\" (Gn. Kur., Ankara, 1970).\nAkgun, S.; \"General Harbord'un Anadolu Gezisi ve (Ermeni Meselesi'ne Dair)\nRaporu: Kurtulus Savasi Baslangicinda,\" (Istanbul, 1981).\nAkin, I.; \"Turk Devrim Tarihi,\" (Istanbul, 1983).\nAksin, S.; \"Jon Turkler ve Ittihad ve Terakki,\" (Istanbul, 1976).\nBasar, Z. (ed.);\"Ermenilerden Gorduklerimiz,\" (Ankara, 1974).\n----; \"Ermeniler Hakkinda Makaleler - Derlemeler,\" (Ankara, 1978).\nBelen, F.; \"Birinci Dunya Harbinde Turk Harbi,\" (Ankara, 1964).\nDeliorman, A.; \"Turklere Karsi Ermeni Komitecileri,\" (Istanbul, 1980).\nEge, N. N. (ed.); \"Prens Sabahaddin: Hayati ve Ilmi Mudafaalari,\"\n(Istanbul, 1977).\nErcikan, A.; \"Ermenilerin Bizans ve Osmanli Imparatorluklarindaki Rolleri,\"\n(Ankara, 1949).\nGurun, K.; 'Ermeni Sorunu yahut bir sorun nasil yaratilir?', \"Turk Tarihinde\nErmeniler Sempozyumu,\" (Izmir, 1983).\nHocaoglu, M.; \"Arsiv Vesikalariyla Tarihte Ermeni Mezalimi ve Ermeniler,\"\n(Istanbul, 1976).\nKaral, E. S.; \"Osmanli Tarihi,\" V. V (1983, 4th ed.); V. VI (1976, 2nd ed.);\nV. VII (1977, 2nd ed.); V. VIII (1983, 2nd ed.) Ankara.\nKurat, Y. T.; \"Osmanli Imparatorlugu'nun Paylasilmasi,\" (Ankara, 1976).\nOrel, S.\/S. Yuca; \"Ermenilerce Talat Pasa'ya Atfedilen Telgraflarin\nIcyuzu,\" (Ankara, 1983). [Also in English translation.]\nAhmad, F.; \"The Young Turks: The Committee of Union and Progress in\nTurkish Politics,\" (Oxford, 1969).\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\nBut, but, but... How does buying an external modem solve the problem\nof wanting more than 2 serial devices at once?  And since the PC\nonly supports two, why are you blaming a modem vendor for the\nproblem?  I don't see how your experience could have been different\nwith any internal modem. ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nat least be honest.  velcro (tm) dates from the 40's.  i have doubts\nabout everything listed above.  just because it was developed in the\nspace age, doesn't mean it was a space spin-off.  ","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I have a friend with an original HP LaserJet.  The nameplate does not \nspecify a number, but since the LJ II followed later, one assumes that he \nhas a LJ I.   His problem is a tax program which requires a 17 cpi font to \nprint the forms properly.\n\nThis unit came to market in 2 versions.  The plus version supported \ndowloadable fonts.  You can guess which one my friend has - the plain, not \nthe plus.  The printer does though have a slot and he has a small selction \nof cartridges including a 16.6 cpi - but none with a 17 cpi font.\n\nCan anyone suggest a source for a cartridge with a 17 (or 18?) cpi font?  \nAlternatively, is an upgrade to the plus version available at reasonable \ncost?\n\nAny suggestions would be welcome.\n\nThanks\n\n\n\n\n\n---\n * WinQwk 2.0b#943 * Seattle Rain Festival - Jan. 1 to Dec. 31","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nWhy don't you pull your head out of your ass and into reality?  First off, what\nis the deal with your subject lines? Do you think that you are being funny?\nHa ha.  What a developed sense of humor you have, I'm surprised they let you \nout of the cage.  Why don't we not talk about the \"official\" definition of\nforeign aid and talk about where money is really spent.  More money is spent\nstationing troops in Germany (ie paying the troops, maintaining bases and equip,\netc) than in Israel.  Plus, Israel does not ask the US to send troops to fight\nher battles.  If you look at the amount of money spent defending Korean \nshipping lanes, Norway, and other trouble spots in the world, you will see that\naid to Israel - from a practical standpoint - is not that much.  And so what -\nso what if Israel gets the most (assuming I buy your feeble argument)?  What \nis your point?  Do you not want to subsidize Israel?  Well, you have two options\n1) Start your own campaign, get elected as president, and then force congress\nto cut all aid to Israel or 2) get the fuck out!  If  you don't like how this \ncountry operates and can't change it then move to Iran or something.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":" \n \n \n       While I wouldn't be too terribly impressed with anybody who got\nto be paranoid based on either Usenet in general or Phill Hallam-Baker's\ncomments in general, you'd be surprised.\n \n       For most people, if you accuse them of something long enough and\nloud enough, to enough people, they start to ask why they're bothering\nto fight it.\n \n       If nothing you do will be considered right, why bother to do right?\nIt's pretty basic human nature.\n \n \n       What an amazing thing.  I didn't realize that over a hundred million\ngun owners all posted to tpg.\n \n       Even if *all* the posts in talk.politics.guns illustrated what\nyou say they illustrate, it would still only reflect the written\npersonas (which is often different from face-to-face) of a very, very\nsmall and select group.\n \n       Anybody who seriously generalizes any attitudes or positions on\nUsenet to the general population of any country either doesn't care\nabout accuracy or needs to have a few realities explained to them.\n \n \n        Speaking of which...\n \n      Most of the \"readership\" posts I've seen put the most read\nnewsgroups at about 160,000 readers, a number I have a feeling is\nfairly inflated.  The posters, rare and regular, are themseleves a\nvery tiny minority of that group.  And the whole of Usenet readers\nare themselves a very distorted sample of humanity.\n \n       If anything, the only real thing you can get out of the relative\nsample of Usenet readers is that we've got too much equipment and too\nmuch time available to us.\n \n \n        Proof that guns don't make you safer is that if you buy one the\ngovernment will show up and kill you?\n \n        Tell me, if the government took away the voting rights of\neverybody who exercised their free speech, would that then be proof\nthat free speech squelches political activity?\n \n        You are equating two things with each other that don't.\n \n \n        Phill, if you really believe that the various posts on\ncomputer nets represents *either* most of the poster's in person\npersonalities *or* the general public's general opinions, then\nI have some serious reservations about your grasp on reality.\n \n        But don't expect you really do believe that.  It's simply\na convenient way to make your point, and hopefully make those\npeople you don't like look bad.\n \n \n        Have a nice day, Phill.\n ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nHaving in mind the size of the images, my opinion is to go with VLB.\nIt has _much_ more bandwith that EISA, which in fact can be utilized\nby the craphics card. (I have not made measures, so someone else may\nshare experience on that.)\n\nAlso, the DX2\/66 is faster in the operations, that run off internal\ncache, slightly slower off the external and about the same off memory.\nSo my advice is the 66\/VLB.\n\n\n\n\nHave You tried running Photostyler without the cache? No need to have\npaging and cache both. (Well, you might argue, that the paging is\ncached). My belief (no measurements) is that apps left with more\nmemory will manage it better than smartdrv.exe(sys).\n\n\nThe bandwidth (theoretical) of ISA is over 5MB\/s, which is far from\n0.15MB\/s. I tried my ISA IDE hard drive (Maxtor 213MB) and got the\nsame results - 0.65MB\/s - regardless of the ISA bus speed\n(5.5-8.25MHz). So I guess, that just the card\/drivers combination is\nlousy.\n\n\nThe rumors are that DX3-99 (if any) is the most likely chip to come\nout. But note, that IBM is closest to the technology an it will only\nsell whole motherboards, so you'll have to upgrade the MB.\n\n\nJust some view, not much figures.\n\n--\nPenio Penev  x7423 (212)327-7423 (w) Internet: penev@venezia.rockefeller.edu","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI dont know about the story but it comes from the fact that in most stadiums, the batter faces northeast and so when\na pitcher is on the mound, his left arm is to the south, hence the term.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Condensers, Kimble Modern Liebig West #18003.\nJacket length 500 mm.\nAll glass, straight tubes.\nPlastic\/gasketed end caps.\nExactly like Central Scientific's 14459 series condensers.\nBeing sold in American Science & Surplus's April catalog for ~$20 each.\nIn original (old) packaging.\n\nI have 13 of these.  $15 each.  Volume discounts:\n\n Buy  Discount Bonus\n-------------------------------------------\n3 - 8   10%    Free insurance.\n9 +     30%    Free shipping and insurance.\n\nFor quality control, all have been opened and inspected for damage.  :)\nBuyer must pay for shipping\/insurance unless otherwise noted.\nShipping should be about $2.00 for one or two; $3.00 for three or four; etc.\nInsurance should be about $0.75 per tube.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"[deleted]\n\nIt's noteworthy that the posts about the west being\nevil etc are made not in some Islamic hellhole but from\nthe west. If the west is so bad, why do they come here?\nNotice how they comfortably exercise their rights to\nfree expression, something completely absent in their\nown countries.\n\nVasudev\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"        Please replay yxy4145@usl.edu\n                             Thanks a lot\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nThe forces and accelerations involved in doing a little bit of orbital\nmaneuvering with HST aboard are much smaller than those involved in\nreentry, landing, and re-launch.  The OMS engines aren't very powerful;\nthey don't have to be.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Could someone explain how to make sense of drag coefficients (i.e Cd) mentioned in magazines.  I understand that lower numbers signify better aerodynamics but\nwhat does this mean in the real world.  Is there a way to calculate new top speeds(assuming the car is not rev limited at top speed) or mileage benefits if a identical car had the Cd reduced from .34 to .33.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"What jetting do you recommend for a ZX-11 (with standard mufflers) instead of\nthe standard one (idle-38, main-155).\nCheers.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"<: \n<: As a private citizen, I would feel much more \"secure in my person and\n<: papers\" knowing that an organization committed to individual civil\n<: liberties- the ACLU and the NRA come to mind- was safeguarding half of\n<: my key. Both the ACLU and the NRA are resistent to government pressure\n<: by the simple expedient fact that they are not supported, funded, or\n<: overtly controlled by the government.\n<: --------------------------\n<Thats one problem that has so far been overlooked. These two escrow\n<agencies will have to create a secure database and service the\n<input and output of Keys. Who pays for this? If they refuse an\n<illegal request from some congressman to deliver a key can their\n<budget by cut to punish them? Will congress be forced to fund\n<them forever?\n\nCongress isn't forced to do ANYTHING.  Not even follow their own rules,\nif it isn't expedient.  If caught with their collective pants down,\nthey make some funny noises, perhaps crucify a skapegoat or two, then\ncontinue business as usual.  I notice those senators involved with\nthe S&L Scandal weren't hurt too much, if at all.  DeConcini's personal\nstake in suppliers to those big Aerostats hasn't affected his credibility\nat all, inside Congress, at least.  He is still pushing his police state\nagenda...\n\n<The problem is that laws can change. Congress may pass a law setting\n<up an escrow agency with instructions that keys are private. Some\n<future congress may change that law. Suppose pre-nazi Germany had\n<a clipper system. Do you think the escrow agencies would have\n<told Hitler that he could not have the keys without a valid \n<court order?\n\nIt will be like the old saw in New Jersey and New York, Chicago, etc\nwhen the politicians PROMISED that this spiffy new gun registration law\nwill NOT be used for future confiscation purposes.  Sure enough, a few\nyears later, when they WERE used JUST FOR THAT PURPOSE, and folks\ncomplained, the response was \"Well, *I* didn't make that promise...\"\nSome politicians may not even wait a few years...  Escrowed keys would\nhave the same assurances of security.  Besides, if someone wants to\nsnoop, how are YOU to know - you don't think they will send you a letter\nsaying \"We are now snooping on your private conversations...\", do you?\nWhat are the assurances the escrow people will not be FORBIDDEN to\nreport any access attempts for one's keys?\n\nSo much for government assurances of privacy.\n\n<In effect you must set up escrow agencies as a fourth branch of\n<the goverment and isolate them from any outside interferance. \n<They will be able to directly tap into Federal funds with no\n<accountability to anyone except through a court challenge.\n\nHow?  The Feds will just change the law, or just ignore it.  Nothing\nnew here...  They got the muscle, the resources, the guns...\n\nAs an aside, since export of crypto is verboten because of ITAR,\nshouldn't the Second Amendment also come into play here?\n\n<John Eaton\n<!hp-vcd!johne\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\nCould someone tell me if and where i could find faceoff stats for the\n91\/92 season and later on the 92\/93 (i think its to early to get it now).\n\nThanks a lot","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"My girlfriend just started taking this drug for her migranes.  It really\nhelped her get through the rebound withdrawl when she got off analgesics. \nShe doesn't have a mail account, but asked me to forward this:\n\n\"Glaxo is the distributor; Imitrex is the drug's brand name.  It works. \nShe can call her pharmacy for more info. The \"miracle\" drug has been used\nfor years in Europe and for some time in Canada.  Trials in the U.S. were\ncompleted and the drug hit the US market at the end of March.  Some\npharmacies don't stock it yet.  Presently it needs to be injected\nsubcutaneously; although testing is starting with a nasal spray form.  It\nmimics serotonin (its molecular structure that fits onto pain receptors\nlooks identical to serotonin on a model I saw)\"","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nOh horse puckey.  Without their cop partner in attendance, they are less likely\nto be controllable *without* the use of force which would kill the dog.\n\n\nO.k.  so you've disabled the dog's mouth, and given up use of your arm to do\nso.  How `bout them front and read paws, and the fact that to plug up that \nmouth you've given the dog the advantage of balance...\n\n\nHave you ever tried to snap leg or crush the skull of a dog without use of \nhardened instruments such as a baseball bat?  Without the use of both arms and\nfull cooperation of the beastie involved, it's not *that* easy.  Oh, but wait,\nyou've got your arm shoved in the dogs mouth.  You lose....\n\n\nOh *now* you qualify you earlier statement by saying a *trained* human.  \n\n\nMost people here have not been trained to deal with a dog that wants to maul\nyou.  get a clue.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Does anybody have a data-sheet handly for the above-mentioned card?  I\nbought one, sans manual at a local surplus shop, and want to try it out\nwith the Crywyr packet driver suite.  \n\nThe IRQ and interface-select jumpers are pretty straightforward, but I\ndon't grok the settings of W10-W18 (also labelled A15 through A18).\nCould somebody tell me which settings of these four jumpers correspond\nto what I\/O addresses?\n\nIs there anything else about this card I should know, before I\nplug&play?\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n \nMarkus, what is that we are noting about the spelling?  That you aren't good at it? :^)\nThat Peugeot is OUT of N. America?  What does this mean?","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n-\n- I heard a story on the local sports news broadcast in Edmonton.\n- Oiler owner Peter Pocklington will be holding a press conference\n- next week. While the exact details are not known, it is believed\n- to concern the Oiler's future.\n-\n- Rumour has it that Pocklington signed a tentative lease arrangement\n- with Copps Collesium in Hamilton. During the press conference,\n- Pocklington may announce the deal. It is quite possible that\n- the deal may simply be a way to force Edmonton Northlands to\n- renegotiate the Oiler lease on the stadium.\n-\n- Northlands has offered to buy the Oilers for $65 million earlier,\n- but the offer was rejected immediately by Pocklington.\n-\n- As for me, my opinion is divided... Edmonton has been fairly\n- supportive of the Oilers. Even though they're a small market\n- team, they had many sellouts in the 80s. Even with the problems\n- that the team had this year, they still brought in more fans\n- than many teams in larger cities did. On the other hand, if\n- the team does move, there is no place more deserving than\n- Hamilton. Of course, how would that affect the grand\n- realignment scheme of Bettman?\n-\n\n  Following up on this, the provincial government has been asked by the\nOpposition to block any deal that Pocklington is offering to Hamilton.  The\ngovernment said that Pock is going nowhere!\n\n  Why don't I believe the government?  Wasn't it Pocklington who wanted to be\nTory leader 9 years ago?","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nIt's called PC-XWare.  It is based on NCD-Ware, their X-terminal\nsoftware (which , IMHO, is excellent).  PC-XWare will include\nX-Remote and be optimized for 32 bit machines. It's X11R5 based.\nIt will support remote management, etc.\n\n\nNot an NCD employee, just a fan :)\n\n-- \n\n---------------------------------\t\t\t\t\t\nEdward J. Gallant III\n37213 Georgia Tech Station\nAtlanta, Georgia 30332","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n\nSilly boy! You read the rest of that jibberish! go back and read rule\n#1.\n\n\nOK, for the record, Spike is jointly owned. The registration says -or-\n(Uhhh, what _does_ the title say, Beth?) Beth brought the ad to my\nattention, I'd been half heartedly lusting after an SR500 for years. I\nhad successfully avioded buying it by rationalizing that I didn't need\nto spend the $$ on it. Then Beth piped up with \"I'll pay for half of\nit!\" I was beaten. \n\n\nWatch it buddy! Both of those are fine rides! Beth loves riding\npillion on the Connie, true, the 'Ol Sport isn't her cup of tea (she\ncan't get it off of the side stand) but she agrees that it's a very\nfine ride.\n\n\n                                              ^^^^^^^\nI'll buy that. I'll even loan you a quarter to buy a clue.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
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{"text":"Hey Larry,\n        How can you be a comp sci major and never crash a damn computer.\nWhat does your CS dept teach you...or are you just that good of a programmer\nthat not one of your assembly programs have ever downed your machine.\n\n\nWhy do you bother putting up such stupid posts...or are you that ignorant.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Seeing all these questions about uart types, their availability, and their\nrelative merits, wouldn't it be fine, if for internal highspeed modems there\nwere a mode of operation bypassing the dull and stupid uart interface and\ninstead accessing directly the relatively large send\/receive buffers of the  \nmodem, thus eliminating all problems with interrupt latencies ?\nJust an idea,\nWolfgang R. Mueller <dvs@ze8.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de>,\nComputing Centre, Heinrich-Heine-University, Duesseldorf, Germany.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Sharp brand \"Pocket Computer\" model PC-1246\n\n   Dimensions;  3.5 x 5 x 0.5 inches.\n\n        Has 15-digit LCD display\n        53 rubber keys (w\/alphabet)\n        built-in BASIC prog.language\n        an 11-pin-socketed interface for optional cassette drive. (Don't have)\n        slide-over\/reversable plastic cover.\n\n        Sorry, no owners manual.\n        A program or two still in memory.\n\n        Asking $15 + shipping (about $2 in U.S.)","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"G'day all!\n\nDoes anyone know anything about front end for POVRay (X11 version)?\nI mean are there things like user friendly modeller for POVRay, or any\nmodellers which will let me design a scene and produce a file which POVRay\ncan then read?\nCheers,\nTomek\n\n+------------------------------------------------------+\n+------------------------------------------------------+\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
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{"text":"the\nunuseable)\nmotorcycle\n\n\nWhat happens is that (I heard this discussed on \"Northern Exposure\") there  \nis a molecular juxtaposition of the molecules in the battery and the  \nmolecules in the concrete.  This acts as an attractant to UFOs (actually  \ntheir crew members) and they arrive at the scene of the battery\/concrete  \ncombination.\n\nThen they proceed to SUCK ALL THE ENERGY OUT OF THE BATTERIES!\n\nRemedy:  Set the battery on a nonconcrete floor.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nIt wasn't \"invented\", but was supposed by the writers of the Constitution\nto be a universal, pre-existing right. Howsomever...\n\n\nHmmm.  You need to spend some time in a library, son.\n\nWhen the Bill of Rights was written, in addition to the (muzzleloading)\nshotgun and pistol you mention we had:\n\n - rifles in calibers ranging from around .30 to .69 caliber and up.\n - cannon with various different projectiles to choose from (and owned\n   by civilians).\n - breech-loading rifles\n\nIn addition, semiautomatic and full-automatic firearms had been patented\nand\/or demonstrated by several people in various places during the preceding\ncentury or so.\n\n\nSounds good.  Any refererences to this actually happening, or is it\njust exaggeration for effect following one or more incidents of someone\nfiring a handful of shots from something that may or may not be an\nUzi, semi- or full-auto?\n\n\nUntil the root conditions that justified it go away (criminal behavior,\neither private or government, which should be defended against), there's\nno reason it should go away.\n\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"[snip]....\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\tExcellent point, Mark.  We should all remember that if Nixon\n\thadn't tried to cover up the misguided actions of some of his\n\tsubordinates in the Watergate burglary, the scandal would\n\tnever have brought down his presidency.  So far, Klinton seems\n\tto be stonewalling this the same way Tricky Dick did.  His whole\n\tcase seems to be \"we didn't do anything wrong\".  However, if\n\tin the course of the investigation it turns out that the\n\tgov't DID do something wrong, and he tried to cover it up,\n\tthen that's an impeachable crime, I believe...  \n\n\tPerhaps he is inadvertently cooking up his own scandal...  Can you \n\tsay \"Wacogate\", little neighbor?...   ;-)\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Then again, maybe $2445 for the gateway system isn't too cheap.\n\nI have a system from Micron computers:","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nAn advertisement in MicroTimes (a bay area mini-Computer Shopper) from\nENCY systems in Fremont has a graphic for the P24T performance based\non MIPS (power meter v1.7):  the 486DX-33 raked in about 14-15, the \n486DX2-66 got about 24, and the P24T-66 got about 44-45.\n\nTom","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nOK, Andrew, I'll provide some evidence. A friend of mine worked for an\nelectronics manufacturer on with a west-coast office. They routinely sold\nequipment to the Japanese. One day, the Japanese started showing up with\ndiscount demands that were amazingly close to the cost to manufacture the\nproducts.\n\nThis company routinely sent most of the manufacturing data to the field \noffices. The Japanese had simply intercepted it. So my friend, the computer\nsystems admin, came up with a solution. He started sending the data out\ndouble-block-encrypted with DES. \n\nTwo days after this new distribution plan was implemented, the president of\nthe company got a visit from a pair of government agents. They told him to\n\"knock it off\". The president gave in, since his company did a considerable\nbusiness with the federal government.\n\nNow, if the government wasn't monitoring the communications, how would they\neven know that the encryption system was installed? Further, since encryp-\ntion isn't illegal, and DES certainly isn't, what is the basis of the\ngovernment's cease-and-desist demand?\n\nThe spooks do whatever they think is necessary, with or without the blessings\nof the law. I'll say \"no thanks\" to Clipper, or anything else the government\nproduces. For the moment, double or triple DES is probably adequate. And when\nthe line is idle, send random garbage, just to keep 'em busy. ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nNope.  I keep my Mac running all the time since it also acts as a\nusenet node and exchanges mail and news every half hour (I run uAccess)\nand receives all my faxes.\n\nI do turn off the monitors hooked up to it.  They produce more heat\nthan I want - it can be warm in my garage office in the summer.  I've\ngot one of those handy power control centers ($25 at Fry's) to I just\nflip the switch in front when I start or stop working.\n\nBy the way, this strategy seems to be somewhat endorsed by Apple since\ntheir new Color Classic will turn off its own monitor after a certain\nlength of idle time.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nIf in said situation. I would, reviewing other cases I've seen reported\non in the articles I've read etc.., suggest the safest legal course of action\nis as follows. Warn your assailant loudly and in clear tones that you have a \nweapon(Yes!Even though it's blatantly obvious now that you have it out!)\nand that you will shoot him if he advances\/does not cease whatever hostile \naction he is currently involved in.( ie: Drop the knife or I'll shoot!)\nRepeat this process three times,if you can!(not if he's pointing a freaking\ngun at you himself!That's kinda impractical.) (There are variables here and\nI will try to address them in turn) After said warning (considering it's\n ignored) Aim center mass and fire until he drops! This is not sadism, it's\npracticality.If he hasn't gone down he's still a threat!(Why I support .45)\nIF HE TURNS AND RUNS DO NOT PURSUE OR FIRE AT HIS BACK! SHOT'S FIRED IN ANGER\nWILL BURN YOU LATER! (Though in some cases the I can see where that might not\nbother me all that much!) If you do drop him! REMAIN WHERE YOU ARE! Have a\nBystander or witness(Or Create one by yelling at the top of your lungs!)\ncall the police, and wait! Reholster your weapon VISIBLY! Or place it on \nthe ground nearby. Do not attempt to recollect your brass.The police will\nuse it's location to piece together the scene along with your testimony and\nthat of any witnesses. Mentally mark witnesses! If the police say that none\ncame forward let them know who you saw! Attempt to keep your weapon loaded\nwith the minimum required(how the hell can I phrase this?) Try to avoid special\npurpose ammunition. Hollow points and Hydrashock rounds give the opposing\nlawyer the type of loaded phrasing he will need to sawy the jury that you\nfully intended to kill someone! The only special purpose rounds that I can\nthink of that would actually help your case (as it has in several) is the\nGlaser Safety Slug (oh what a lovely name SAFETY SLUG) The stated purpose\nand stated design parameters of the round are life savers in court.\n(ie. Attempting to create a bullet which will not overpenetrate, not \nricochette, and which is designed to STOP (Not Kill (Gee, to bad the two often\ncross, damn I'm real sorry that rapist is dead! NOT!) an assailant with\none shot. This, again, can be a real life saver in a hostile court.\nBe as cooperative with the police as possible! Show them where you were.\nRepeat your information as often as requested. They will often ask you the\nsame questions over and over to verify facts, and ,unfortunately, to see\nif your lying. Fill out all statements and show all required identification\nand weapon permits (BOOO! Down with registered citizens!Register your\n politicians as deadly tax weapons needing to be confiscated!) If they are\nrequired in your state. Contact a lawyer immediately if they decide to\nhold you or that further questioning is needed. If you cannot afford one,\ncontact the NRA. They have a legal assistance fund.(Or at least they used to)\nI DO HOPE YOUR A MEMBER! (Not my business either way though..) If I was\nvague on anything, or I left some questions unanswered, you can E-MAIL\nme or post here. (Preferebly E-MAIL. I don't have a load of time to review\nthe news)\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tKane","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"It is interesting, sometimes, to listen to U.S. news as seen through\nthe eyes of another country.......\n\nB.B.C. world news service, on short-wave, originating out of London,\nreports that a survivor of the Waco massacre states that a tank, when\nmaking a hole in the wall of the building, knocked over a kerosene\nlamp and that is how the fire started.  Attempts were made by the\npeople inside to put out the fire, but it spread too quickly.\n\nHas anyone in U.S. heard anything similar or are U.S. government\nspin-doctors censoring such information?","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"In the wake of the Waco denouement, I had email discussions with\npeople from this group.  In particular, we discussed how cults\noperate, why the FBI might be motivated to black out news or behave\nthe way it did, and what kinds of problems are involved in dealing\nwith cults and similar organizations.\n\nI include an edited account of what I wrote.  The identity of my\ncorrespondents have (I hope) been erased.  The editing process makes\nthe text choppy - sorry about that.  I've tried to retain the\ninformation content.\n\nEllipses (...) indicate where text was removed.  A few of the comments\nin parentheses are new, intended to make it easier for outsiders to\nunderstand.\n\nThese notes are preliminary - feel free to criticize.\n\nCheers(?),\nOded\n\n------------------------ (begin included text) -----------------------\n\nI took a course called the MADNESS OF CROWDS, ...  The course included\ncults and briefly mentioned\/analyzed Jonestown.  (Did some external\nreading too).\n\nWilliam Adorno ... edited a series of books on the psychology of\n\"evil\" mass movements...  starting with THE AUTHORITARIAN PERSONALITY,\nUniversity of Chicago Press, 1948 ... an attempt to figure out what\nwould motivate people to support fascism or be the bad guys in WWII,\nand by extension in other wars, in racial lynchings ...  I don't think\nthe books are perfect, and the study of psychopathology has advanced\n..., but you can elicit Koresh types from even the first volume.  So I\nthink they're onto something.\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\n\t\tHow cult psychology works...\n\t[I'm an amateur.  Hope I'm not hopelessly naive.]\n\nSo long as Koresh could \"own\" his people, he made sure they didn't\nbelieve there was any life out there for them, away from him.\nOtherwise, he'd (Koresh) be nothing.  During the siege, ex-Davidians\nrecounted how he convinced the people in the compound they survived\nonly through his intercession with God to spare their worthless souls.\nAbsolutely classic brainwashing technique. ...  As long as they\nbelieved him, they'd ignore BATF\/FBI\/Child Protective Services or even\nthe Red Cross asking them to come out.  After all, if they ever left\nhim, God would catapult them straight to Hell, and the combined forces\nof the US gummint, with all the goodwill in the world (doubtful)\ncouldn't save them for a second.  If I believed it, I'd stay and die\ntoo, like the folks in Jonestown.\n\nFor a prosaic analogy, replace a cult leader with an estranged wife\n(or husband), and notice how many folks show up, kill the ex and then\nthemselves.  That's the consequence of shattered \"cultism.\"  It really\ndoes happen all the time.  [By the way, the treasured ideal in such\ncases, without which life is meaningless, is the relationship, no\nmatter how abusive, rather than the individual's partner.]\n\n...\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\n    [Why No News, Don't The Feds Owe The World An Explanation?]\n\nI agree that official explanations are in order.  I can also see good\n(?)  reasons for news blackouts.\n\n\n ... that no matter what, those people would have died, because Koresh\nmade sure they believed they had no lives outside his influence.\nHence it would make little difference when or how the FBI acted.  He\nheld them hostage, as his trump against going to jail, but nothing\nwould really stop him from offing them.  Even if the FBI went away!\n\nLook at history.  Rep Leo Ryan (and some staffers) visited Jonestown,\nat the request of constituents who had relatives there.  Once\nJonestown was discovered, and even though they killed Ryan and his\nentourage ... they all killed themselves, because Jim Jones knew he'd\nbe busted.  Internal arguments asking to spare the children, brought\nup by some of the women in the cult, were shouted down.  There are\ntapes...  The \"logic\" of saying that no matter how bad the gummint is, it\nwouldn't kill the kids, was shouted down as blasphemy, and the people\nwho brought it up were threatened with ostracism by people who by\nTHEIR OWN AVOWAL would be dead within the hour.  I suspect it's the\nsame with the Branch Davidians.\n(There's a book on Jonestown by James Reston Jr., titled OUR FATHER\nWHO ART IN HELL.  I don't know whether it's good - never read it.)\n\n...\nThe only way to prevent such a problem would be never to investigate\nreports of child abuse or sexual mistreatment, or organizations buying\nfull-auto conversion kits or shipping hand grenades via UPS, on the\noff chance of stumbling across cults that would kill themselves. ...\n\nSo, the only way the BATF\/FBI could \"save\" those people, and future\ncults, is by ignoring such signs.\n\nI suppose there's another way - outsmarting Koresh and tricking him\ninto letting them go, or somehow influencing \"his\" people to abandon\nhim while he owns most of their means of communication with the world.\n... a mighty tough row to hoe. ...  I suspect the FBI tried to do that\nwith blackouts, noise and other sensory insults.  However, maybe\nthey're not very sophisticated, or maybe the job is impossible.  It's\ncertainly possible the guy running the show was a jerk.\n\n...\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\n\t[Why the FBI might want to blackout during and coverup after]\n\n    ... - if they were doing a poor job of weaning the BD's from\nKoresh, they'd want to keep it quiet so they wouldn't be embarrassed.\n\n    ... - if they were trying to wean the BD's from Koresh, they'd\nwant to keep it quiet so he couldn't outflank them, or well-meaning\nboneheads from ANY point of view wouldn't screw it up. ...  I _hate_\nplaying chess when the world screams in my face, especially if at\ncheckmate time people really die, and I could be blamed.\n\n...\n\nI don't think ignoring such incidents is a workable policy, unless you\ndeny the FBI, BATF, Child Protective Services (of whatever stripe) and\nthe rest of the gummint should exist at all. \n\n\t\t(the end)\n----------------------------------------------------------------------","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"THE WHITE HOUSE\n\n                    Office of the Press Secretary\n___________________________________________________________________\nFor Immediate Release                                  April 23, 1993\n\n\n\n                            PRESS BRIEFING\n                           BY DEE DEE MYERS\n\n\n                          The Briefing Room\n\n\n10:35 A.M. EDT\n\t     \n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  At 1:00 p.m., we're having a press \nconference, Bill, in the East Room.  And then Saturday the President \nwill leave here at roughly 8:00 a.m. and fly down to Jamestown.  He \nwill spend the day there, overnight at Camp David. \n\t     \n\t     On Sunday, it's unclear exactly what time he'll leave \nCamp David and fly to Boston.  He'll leave from Hagerstown. The press \nplane will leave from Washington. \n\t     \n\t     He will meet with some --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What kind of a plane is that he's taking?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  That he's taking?  He'll probably take a C-\n20.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  From Hagerstown?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  From Hagerstown.  Air Force One doesn't fly \nout of Hagerstown, apparently.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  How will the pool travel?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  The pool will have to meet him ahead of \ntime.  So I guess the pool will travel with the press plane and wait \nfor him at the airport.  There is currently no provision -- and I'll \ndouble-check, because there's currently no provision -- I think \nthat's standard operating practice.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  The pool is not going to meet him and watch him get \non the plane at Hagerstown?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I don't believe so.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What time does he have to be in Boston?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  He's going to meet there with a group of \ncitizens, mostly people who supported us during the campaign, at \naround 1:30 p.m.  We're still working out the final times.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  At the airport?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  No, it will be at the Boston Harbor Hotel.  \n\t     And then he will also meet with some -- a youth group \nthat authored something called Project 21.  The speech to the \npublishers is actually at 3:15 p.m.  It will be followed by Q&A.  And \nthen after the speech and Q&A, he'll attend a reception with the \npublishers, and then return to Washington from Boston.  And that's it \nfor the weekend.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Has the President seen the report from -- or the \nletter, communication from the foreign service officers; also, \nobviously, the communication from Madeleine Albright?  And what is \nhis reaction to their call on him?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Well, obviously, the letter was written to \nSecretary Christopher.  I believe Secretary Christopher received the \nletter on Saturday.  He reviewed it and met with the authors on \nMonday to discuss their views.  He believes it's an important part of \nthe policy-making process and is taking their views into account as \nwe go forward in the development of the Bosnia policy.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What is the President's reaction?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  The President hasn't seen the letter.  It \nwas something that was directed towards Secretary Christopher.  In \nterms of -- he hasn't seen specifically the letter, but in terms of \ntheir concerns generally, what the President has said is that there \nare a lot of options on the table now, including ones that weren't \nthere before.  And I think he's, as is everybody, gravely concerned \nabout the situation in Bosnia.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Is he influenced by that?  I mean, how does he feel \nabout the fact that all of the specialists in that area -- those desk \nofficers --\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Many of the specialists in that area -- I \nthink that that is clearly part of the process.  It's something -- \ntheir views will clearly be considered.  I think Secretary \nChristopher met with the group immediately to discuss their views.  I \nthink he believes that there ought to be room for opinions and that \nthose opinions ought to be considered, particularly from people who \nwork closely on the issues.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What do you mean, there are options on the table \nthat weren't there before?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I think the President said last week that \nthere were options, such as lifting the arms embargo to the Bosnian \nMuslims, that had been previously off the table that are now being \nconsidered.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Dee Dee, in terms of those options, Madeleine \nAlbright is saying that potentially there could be unilateral action \nby the U.S. if the Europeans did not go along.  Is that on the table?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Well, I can't discuss anything that would -- \nany conversations that would have happened between Ambassador \nAlbright and the President.  But I think the President has said he \nwould certainly -- is working with our European allies.  He's had a \nnumber of conversations with European leaders and is trying to build \nsome consensus there.  \n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Will he reach a decision -- will he have anything \nspecific to say today?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  No.  I mean, in term of there will be no new \nannouncement of policy today.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Does your statement mean he has ruled out \nunilateral action?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  He's continuing to consult with our allies \nat this point.  He has said -- I think he's been fairly clear about \nit, that the he believes that the U.S. needs to act in concert with \nits allies on this.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  On that point, does he believe that the U.S., \nthough, does have built-in authority from the United Nations already \nto take unilateral action?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Well, I think the U.N. Resolution 770 makes \nit clear that you can act unilaterally in support of any humanitarian \nrelief effort.  I think the broader point is that anything we do, any \noptions that we decide to pursue we will make sure that it is \nconsistent with U.N. authority, and if it's not, we'll work with our \nallies to make sure that we get it.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Dee Dee, then how does the White House someone as \ndistinguished as Elie Wiesel, who says that not enough is being done \nto stop the atrocities going on in Bosnia?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I think that that's why we're considering \nadditional options.  I think that Mr. Wiesel's comments yesterday \nwere quite compelling.  The situation in Bosnia is tragic.  The \nPresident is very concerned about it.  He has -- I think President \nClinton has worked very hard  to take further actions to continue to \nisolate Serbia in the world community.  Clearly, we're considering \nother options because the President is concerned that perhaps it's \nnot enough.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  In terms of what you were just talking about, it \nsounds like Resolution 770 justifies unilateral action by the U.S. to \nprotect humanitarian --\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I don't think it -- I wouldn't use the word \njustify.  It permits unilateral action by any country in protecting \nthe delivery of humanitarian relief.  But I think that's just an \nexplanation of the resolution.  I think any action that we take will \nbe consistent with U.N. resolutions or we'll work with our allies to \nmake sure that it is permissible or we'll get further action.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  The President and other officials have ruled out \nunilateral U.S. action in Bosnia in the past.  You're declining to do \nthat this morning.\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  No, I said the President has said repeatedly \nthat he wants to act in concert with our allies on this.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  That doesn't mean that he won't act alone, which \nhas been said before explicitly.\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I don't mean to imply a change in policy.  \nThe President has said all along that he wants to act in concert with \nour allies on this.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  One other little question.  Did he know about this \nletter from the foreign service officers before it hit the papers?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I don't believe so.  Secretary Christopher \n-- they may have had a private conversation about it.  The President \nhas not seen it.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  They met on Monday, right?  Christopher met --\nsurely, he must have brought that up --\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Again, they may have talked privately about \nit, but --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Dee Dee, what you're saying is that the Albright \nrecommendation has been rejected, is that correct?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  No, I didn't say that at all.  I said I \nwon't -- I said I wouldn't comment on any conversations or \ncommunications.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  She's advocating unilateral action and you're \nsaying, in effect, that we will not take unilateral action.\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I am not confirming anything that Madeleine \nAlbright may or may not have recommended.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Given the sometimes delicate, complicated and \nfrustrating nature of negotiations with the allies on this issue, \ndoes the President find this kind of letter from 12 foreign service \nofficers of the State Department helpful to that process, hurtful to \nthat?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I think that their views are obviously being \nconsidered.  The Secretary received that memo on Saturday and two \ndays later he met with them in order to have a more thorough airing \nof their views, of the basis for their views, to discuss in greater \ndetail the options that they had presented in the letter.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Doesn't it put some kind of pressure on --\nadditional pressure on him now from within his own administration to \nact regardless of what the allies may or may not do?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I think clearly there's a broad policy \nreview underway now.  And the President and his advisors are \nconsidering a number of options, including some of those outlined in \nthe letter from the folks over at the State Department.  Now, no \ndecisions have been made on that yet, but I think that there is a \nthrough review underway, and that their opinions are being very \nseriously considered.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  If I can just follow up, I guess what I'm looking \nfor is what was his reaction to this letter?  Did he say, good, this \nbolsters my position?  Or did he say, damn, this is just what I don't \nneed right now?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I think he said this helps contribute \nsubstantively to the debate.  It's important that all views be \nconsidered and aired thoroughly, that before he makes a decision he \nwants to have the best possible advice and information possible, and \nthis, I think in many ways, furthers that goal.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  So internal advice to a Cabinet official or the \nPresident -- it's all open now, and you wouldn't take any umbrage or \nsay that they were out of line?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I think that the fact that Secretary \nChristopher met with them to discuss their views and make sure they \nhad an opportunity to have a more complete conversation about it is \nconclusive evidence that their views are welcome.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Does the policy review include what Madeleine \nAlbright has suggested, and what Joe Biden and others have suggested, \nwhich is that the previous U.N. resolutions authorize unilateral \naction -- military action -- for the delivery of humanitarian --\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I think all options are on the table.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  The unilateral option is on the table?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I think all options are on the table.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  We've had two different --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Isn't that a change, Dee Dee?\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  That would be a change of policy.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Particularly if it includes ground troops, which \nhas been specifically ruled out.\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I think the President has been -- well, no.  \nI don't -- that is not --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Are you talking about all options?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  All options -- I think the President has \nbeen fairly clear about that.  So let me just review again what he \nhas said.  He has said that -- the President has said all options are \non the table, with the exception of the introduction of ground \ntroops, which he has never suggested.  He has ruled that out from the \nbeginning.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Hasn't he ruled out unilateral action of any sort?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  He has said that he doesn't believe the U.S. \ncan solve the problems in the former Yugoslavia by itself.  I think \nthat there are a number of very complicated options on the table \nright now.  I don't think that -- again, I don't want to comment on \nspecific options that are being considered other than in the broad \ncategories that we've already said -- things like lifting the arms \nembargo against the Bosnian Muslims, things that I think we've talked \nabout in broad terms.  This is a very complicated situation.  The \noptions being presented and considered are very complicated.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Air strikes on the table?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Again, I think that's been fairly clearly \npointed out that that's something that's being discussed.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Dee Dee, are ground troops on the -- \n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  No, ground troops are not being considered.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  You said there was not going to be -- you said you \nwere not announcing a change of policy.  Then you said everything is \non the table.  We're confused.  Are unilateral actions on the table?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  All I can tell you is what the President has \nsaid -- that he doesn't believe -- that he wants to act in concert \nwith the allies on this.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Wants to, but he's willing to -- I mean, if they \ndon't go along --\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  He's continuing to consult with our allies \non this.  He's continuing to have discussions.  He's continuing to \npress them for further action.  And I think that's clear.  The \nconversation is ongoing.  We're going to continue to work with them \nto find the best possible solution and next step on this.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Dee Dee, the allies have taken the position that to \nconduct any kind of air strikes in Bosnia would have the opposite \neffect of ensuring the delivery of humanitarian aid; that they feel \nthat their troops on the ground monitoring the delivery of that aid \nwould become vulnerable and the Bosnians --\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I'm not sure that's the consistent -- I \nmean, I'm not sure who you're referring to.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  The British and the French.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Yes, the British and French.  They've taken the \nposition that the delivery of humanitarian aid would be jeopardized \nby any kind of air strikes against the Bosnian military.  Does the \nU.S. believe differently from that?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  The President has had conversations with \nboth Mitterrand and Major, as you know.  I think that there is a \nthorough review of policy going on in those countries as well.  And I \ndon't want to comment on the nature of the President's discussions \nother than to say that he's continuing to consult with our allies as \nwe move forward and he's continuing to press them for further action.  \nAnd I think that process is ongoing.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t     the other day voted against any military \nintervention yesterday.  Does the President regard that as the end of \nthe line or does he does still hold out some possibility of \nunilateral action?  The allies have been very, very plain that they \ndo not want to do anything.\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  The consultations are ongoing.  That's all I \ncan tell you at this point.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Are you saying that there won't be any announcement \non Bosnia today in the press conference?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  No, that is not the intention of the press \nconference.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What is the intention?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  It's an opportunity to take questions.  He \nmay have a brief -- I'm sure he'll have a brief opening statement, \nbut it is not an opportunity to outline a new policy on Bosnia.  That \nwill not happen.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Can you tell us what the subject of the opening \nstatement is?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  It's sort of a general statement of where we \nare.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  After the first hundred days, you mean?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  It's not a long statement.  I mean, this is \njust generally.  Don't look for any major policy pronouncements.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Do you know what the opening statement is?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  But it's -- perhaps later today I'll be able \nto tell you with more certainty -- I think that's still under review.  \nBut the overriding purpose of this -- it's not a mystery; it's not \nmeant to be.  It's just to take questions.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  It would be helpful to know whether -- what the \nopening statement is on.\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Since the major purpose here is just to take \nquestions, it's not completely resolved yet.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Dee Dee, one policy that was expected last week and \nthat the White House, you and George seemed to indicate we might get, \nwould be an AIDS czar.  Will he announce that today?  And what's the \ndelay on that?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I don't think we meant to imply -- I think \nwe said it would happen soon.  I don't think we meant to imply with \nany certainty that it would be this week.  It is coming soon.  I \ndon't anticipate that happening today.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What's the delay?  Isn't this the perfect time to \nannounce an AIDS czar?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I don't know that it's a delay.  I think the \nprocess is ongoing to find the best possible person and to go through \nthe necessary background checks, and to make sure that we've crossed \nthe t's and dotted the i's before we make an announcement.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Dee Dee, what are Zoe Baird's qualifications for \nthe Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board?  And why wasn't her \nappointment announced here?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  The qualifications -- I don't know if \nthere's a specific list; I'll have to check and see.  I think there \nare a number of people there on the board with different backgrounds.  \nMany of them have long histories in intelligence or other government \nservice.  I think there's a broad variety of views across political \nspectrum and across backgrounds that are represented there.  We never \nmade a formal announcement other than the Chairman of the Board, \nwhich is Admiral William Crowe.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Why would he appoint her, though, if the American \npeople and many in the Senate rejected her for another government \njob?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I don't believe that the American people \never had -- voted on her.  And I certainly -- she was never rejected \nin the Senate.  She never went up there for a hearing.  But the \nPresident believes she's a very competent person.  He's said that -- \nZoe Baird -- do you understand what the question is?  Zoe Baird is on \nthe President's Foreign Intelligence --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  You said she never went up there for a hearing?\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Her nomination was withdrawn after public outrage \nover violating federal laws?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Right, she never -- she was never -- but you \nsaid she was rejected by the Senate.  I was just simply trying to \npoint out that she was never voted on by the Senate.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  So you don't think that is any problem?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I don't think there's any problem.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  She has been appointed to this board, is that a \nfact?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Yes.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Does she need confirmation for this?  Does she need \nconfirmation to be a member of the --\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  No.  It's a presidential appointment.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Usually, announcements are made here at the White \nHouse.  Was there a decision not to announce her publicly?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  We didn't make an announcement.  People who \nasked were told who  the members of the board were.  We didn't make \nan official announcement.  If anybody's interested in that we can \ncertainly put out the list of names.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  I'd like to know.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Don't such board members -- don't you normally as a  \nmatter of -- routinely put out releases on all these boards and \npresidential appointment regardless of their dimension?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Not always.  But, again, I'm happy to put \nthis out.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Isn't that the standard practice?\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  That was past practice.\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Again, I'm happy to put it out.  We'll put \nout a list of the members of the board today.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Dee Dee, I don't want to try to fail to let you get \nout of this swamp but -- (laughter) -- all I really want to know is \nhasn't it been the practice in this administration for such \nannouncements to be made routinely?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I think generally but not always.  And we're \nhappy to put that out today.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What is the board, what is her title, what is the \nsize of the board?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  There is roughly a dozen members on the \nboard.  It is a civilian board, although their are some, obviously, \nretired military personnel on the board that provide input into \nintelligence policy for the President.  Again, the chairman of that \nboard is Admiral William Crowe.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  And did he recommend Baird?\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What's the name of the board?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  It's the President's Foreign Intelligence \nAdvisory Board, PFIAB.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What's her qualification -- that she had employed \nan illegal alien?  Is that -- (laughter) -- \n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Do you want an answer to the question or you \njust want to make a joke?\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Let me phrase it another way.  Why shouldn't this \nappointment be viewed as a pay-back for the difficulty she had a \ncouple of months ago?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Because it's not.  \n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What's her experience in foreign intelligence?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  She's an experienced attorney, someone who \nthe President believes is very competent and qualified.  And I think \npart of the mission of this board is to provide civilian input.  Not \neverybody on the board is supposed to be an intelligence expert; that \nis not the board's mission.  It is to provide civilian input for the \nPresident as he makes decisions regarding intelligence matters.  He \nbelieves she's very qualified, very competent person, enormously \ntalented and has said that throughout.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Is this just a figment of my overactive \nimagination, or was there discussion early on about abolishing the \nPresident's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I don't think so.  On December 24th, when he \nannounced all of his foreign policy advisors he announced that he \nwould -- had appointed Admiral Crowe as the head of the board.  So I \ndon't believe there's ever been any --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Earlier than that, during the transition.\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  No, I don't believe so.  It was announced, \nagain, on December 24th.  Admiral Crowe couldn't be there, but it was \nannounced. \n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Are members paid?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I don't believe so, but I'll double-check.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  On another subject, on Waco, how do you explain the \ndiscrepancy between the federal reports of the autopsies of the \nbodies that are coming out of Waco and the state?  I guess it's the \nTexas Ranger reports.  \n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Most of the information is coming -- the \nfederal information is coming from the site.  Clearly, there's been \nsome discrepancies and the Justice Department is looking into it.  \nOfficials in the Justice Department were told, I believe the day \nbefore yesterday, that there were several bodies found with bullet \nholes.  I think there's some discrepancy about that, and the Justice \nDepartment is looking into it.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Is the President going to get involved in trying to \nsort out what seems to be becoming a jurisdictional morass down \nthere, with some people withdrawing, others saying they're in charge, \nbut others -- Justice, FBI, Texas Rangers -- all grabbing a piece of \nthis?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I don't know that he's going to try to \nmediate the dispute.  I mean, I'll let you know if there's anything \nhe intends to do about it.  But as you know, there are several levels \nof investigation ongoing, and we're hopeful that they can work \ntogether. \n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Is there any one agency or official down there in \ncharge of everything?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I don't know.  I'll have to get back to you \non that.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What is the subject matter of Sunday's speech?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  It's going to be fairly general.  I don't \nthink it's going to be any specific announcements.  I think it's \ngoing to be sort of a --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Does he have a topic that he's going to talk about?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  We're still working on it.  But I wouldn't \nlook for any announcements of, like, the drug czar or something like \nthat.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Is it sort of a 100 days speech, sort of \"my \nexcellent adventure for 100 days\"?  (Laughter.)\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Not exactly, but I think he'll take a little \nbit broader look about what's happened in the last --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Foreign, domestic?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  A little bit of both, but I think a lot of \ndomestic.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  And overview. \n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Yes, more of an overview than a specific \npolicy announcement.  \n\t     \t  \n\t     Q\t  Has there been an agreement yet on a forum by which \nthe President will address the gay rights march on Sunday?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  It will be a letter read to the crowd by \nCongresswoman Nancy Pelosi.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Is that available?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Not yet, but it will be.  Sure.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Are you going to put it out here or --\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  We'll probably put it out here on Sunday.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Travel next week?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Unclear.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What was the question?\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Likely?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I don't --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Likely?  Possible?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Possible.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What's possible?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Travel.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  George mentioned yesterday campaign finance reform \nand national service legislative proposals next week.  Do you have \ndays yet for them?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Not yet.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Can you tell us which order?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Campaign finance reform first; national \nservice later in the week.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Is there any coverage tomorrow in Williamsburg?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  No.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  And any report in the aftermath of the day?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Any readout from the day?\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Readout.\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  It's possible.  Jeff Eller will be down \nthere.  I think he can go through what the President did during the \nday.  We don't expect any photo op or anything, other than departure \nhere in the morning.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t   Dee Dee, the President has not made a regular \npractice, as some of his predecessors have, of going to Camp David.  \nIn fact, he's been there -- what -- once or twice?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Twice.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Why this weekend?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  He went two weekends ago, as you know, on \nthe way home from his father-in-law's funeral.  I think that they \nfound it to be a good experience and a nice way for them to spend \nsome time together as a family.  And this is just an opportunity to \ndo the same.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  There's no march there.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  It has nothing to do with the march here?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  No.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Since he's going to be in town Sunday morning now \ninstead of in Jamestown, have you thought about him making a quick \npass-by, fly-over -- (laughter) --\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  He'll fly straight to Boston.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Flying straight did you say?  (Laughter.)\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  George took a question yesterday on Waco.  The \nPresident had said on Tuesday in the Rose Garden that there was a \nminor disagreement on tactics between the military advisors and the \nFBI.  And the question was whether you knew exactly what that was and \nwhether it related to the use of the particular kind of tear gas.  Do \nyou have an answer on that?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I don't.  I'll check.\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESS:  Thank you.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nNo wonder you 'wieneramus' are in such a mess. Following the Greek \nCypriot attempt to annex the island to Greece with the aid of the Greek \narmy, Turkiye intervened by using her legal right given by two international \nagreements. Turkiye did it for the frequently and conveniently forgotten \npeople of the island, Turkish Cypriots. For those Turkish Cypriots whose \ngrandparents have been living on the island since 1571. And the next is\n'Karabag'.\n\nThe people of Turkiye know quite well that Greece and the Greek \nCypriots will never abandon the idea of hellenizing Cyprus and will \nremain eternally hopeful of uniting it with Greece, someday, whatever \nthe cost to the parties involved. The history speaks for itself. Greece \nwas the sole perpetrator of invasion on that island when it sent\nits troops on July 15, 1974 in an attempt to topple the legitimate\ngovernment of Archibishop Makarios.\n\nThe release of Nikos Sampson, a member of EOKA [National Organization\nof Cypriot Fighters] and a convicted terrorist, shows that the\n'enosis' mentality continues to survive in Greece. One should not\nforget that Sampson dedicated his life to annihilating the Turks\nin Cyprus, committed murder to achieve this goal, and tried to\ndestroy the island's independence by annexing it to Greece. Of\ncourse, the Greek governments will have to bear the consequences \nfor this irresponsible conduct.\n\n             THE MUSEUM OF BARBARISM\n\n2 Irfan Bey Street, Kumsal Area, Nicosia, Cyprus\n\nIt is the  house of Dr. Nihat  Ilhan, a major who  was serving at\nthe Cyprus  Turkish Army Contingent. During  the attacks launched\nagainst the Turks by the Greeks, on 20th December 1963, Dr. Nihat\nIlhan's  wife and  three  children were  ruthlessly and  brutally\nkilled in the  bathroom, where they had tried to  hide, by savage\nGreeks. Dr.  Nihat Ilhan happened to  be on duty that  night, the\n24th   December  1963.   Pictures  reflecting   Greek  atrocities\ncommitted during and after 1963 are exhibited in this house which\nhas been converted into a museum.\n\nAN EYE-WITNESS ACCOUNT  OF HOW A TURKISH FAMILY  WAS BUTCHERED BY\nGREEK TERRORISTS\n\nThe date  is the 24th of  December, 1963... The onslaught  of the\nGreeks against the Turks, which  started three days ago, has been\ngoing on  with all its  ferocity; and defenseless women,  old men\nand children are being brutally  killed by Greeks. And now Kumsal\nArea of Nicosia witnesses the  worst example of the Greeks savage\nbloodshed...\n\nThe wife  and the  three infant  children of  Dr. Nihat  Ilhan, a\nmajor on duty at the camp  of the Cyprus Turkish Army Contingent,\nare  mercilessly and  dastardly  shot dead  while  hiding in  the\nbathroom of their house, by  maddened Greeks who broke into their\nhome. A glaring example of Greek barbarism.\n\nLet us  now listen to the  relating of the said  incident told by\nMr. Hasan  Yusuf Gudum, an  eye witness, who himself  was wounded\nduring the same terrible event.\n\n\"On the night of the 24th  of December, 1963 my wife Feride Hasan\nand I were paying a visit to the family of Major Dr. Nihat Ilhan.\nOur neighbours  Mrs. Ayshe of  Mora, her daughter Ishin  and Mrs.\nAyshe's  sister Novber  were also  with us.  We were  all sitting\nhaving supper.  All of  a sudden bullets  from the  Pedieos River\ndirection started to riddle the  house, sounding like heavy rain.\nThinking  that   the  dining-room  where  we   were  sitting  was\ndangerous, we  ran to  the bathroom and  toilet which  we thought\nwould be  safer. Altogether we were  nine persons. We all  hid in\nthe bathroom  except my wife  who took  refuge in the  toilet. We\nwaited in fear. Mrs. Ilhan the wife of Major Doctor, was standing\nin the bath with her three children Murat, Kutsi and Hakan in her\narms. Suddenly with  a great noise we heard the  front door open.\nGreeks had  come in and were  combing, every corner of  the house\nwith  their machine  gun bullets.  During these  moments I  heard\nvoices saying, in  Greek, \"You want Taksim eh!\"  and then bullets\nstarted flying in the bathroom. Mrs. Ilhan and her three children\nfell into  the bath. They were  shot. At this moment  the Greeks,\nwho broke  into the bathroom, emptied  their guns on us  again. I\nheard one of the Major's children moan, then I fainted.\n\nWhen I came  to myself 2 or  3 hours later, I saw  Mrs. Ilhan and\nher three children lying dead in the  bath. I and the rest of the\nneighbours in the  bathroom were all seriously  wounded. But what\nhad happened to my wife? Then I remembered and immediately ran to\nthe  toilet, where,  in  the doorway,  I saw  her  body. She  was\nbrutally murdered.\n\nIn the  street admist the  sound of  shots I heard  voices crying\n\"Help, help. Is  there no one to save us?\"  I became terrified. I\nthought that  if the Greeks came  again and found that  I was not\ndead they would kill  me. So I ran to the  bedroom and hid myself\nunder the double-bed.\n\nAn our  passed by. In the  distance I could still  hear shots. My\nmouth was dry,  so I came out  from under the bed  and drank some\nwater. Then I put  some sweets in my pocket and  went back to the\nbathroom, which was exactly as I had left in an hour ago. There I\noffered sweets  to Mrs. Ayshe,  her daughter and Mrs.  Novber who\nwere all wounded.\n\nWe  waited in  the bathroom  until 5  o'clock in  the morning.  I\nthought morning would never come.  We were all wounded and needed\nto be taken  to hospital. Finally, as we could  walk, Mrs. Novber\nand I, went  out into the street hoping to  find help, and walked\nas far as Koshklu Chiftlik.\n\nThere, we met  some people who took us to  hospital where we were\noperated on. When  I regained my consciousness I  said that there\nwere more  wounded in the  house and  they went and  brought Mrs.\nAyshe and her daughter.\n\nAfter staying three  days in the hospital I was  sent by plane to\nAnkara  for  further treatment.  There  I  have had  four  months\ntreatment but still I cannot use  my arm. On my return to Cyprus,\nGreeks arrested me at the Airport.\n\nAll  I have  related to  you above  I told  the Greeks  during my\ndetention. They then released me.\"\n\nON FOOT INTO CYPRUS'S DEVASTATED TURKISH QUARTER\n\nWe went tonight into the sealed-off Turkish quarter of Nicosia in\nwhich 200  to 300 people have  been slaughtered in the  last five\ndays.\n\nWe  were the  first  Western  reporters there,  and  we saw  some\nterrible sights.\n\nIn the Kumsal quarter at No. 2, Irfan Bey Sokagi, we made our way\ninto  a house  whose floors  were  covered with  broken glass.  A\nchild's bicycle lay in a corner.\n\nIn the  bathroom, looking  like a group  of waxworks,  were three\nchildren piled on top of their murdered mother.\n\nIn a room next to it we glimpsed  the body of a woman shot in the\nhead.\n\nThis, we  were told, was the  home of a Turkish  Army major whose\nfamily had been killed by the mob in the first violence.\n\nToday was five days later, and still they lay there.\n\nRene MacCOLL and Daniel McGEACHIE, (From the \"DAILY EXPRESS\")\n\n\"...I saw in  a bathroom the bodies of a  mother and three infant\nchildren murdered because their father was a Turkish Officer...\"\n\nMax CLOS, LE FIGARO 25-26 January, 1964\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Review of 1989 Ford Taurus SHO -- By Gene Kim\n=============================================\n\nBackground:\n\n    Last week, I bought a 1989 Ford Taurus SHO, moving up from driving\na 1987 Toyota Celica ST and a 1975 Oldsmobile Cutlass.  I have been\ninterested in buying a SHO for about five months and have been combing\nthe classifieds in Denver and Chicago every week.  I bought a\nremarkably clean maroon\/red SHO with 92K miles on it for $6800.\nAs far as I can tell, this is about $2000 under Blue Book and I still\nhave another 8000 miles before the Extended Service Plan runs out.\n\n    As one should with any pre-1991 SHOs, I made sure that the car was\nalready refit with the upgraded clutch and pressure plate, as well as\nhaving been recalled for upgraded rotors and seatbelt attachments.\nHowever, my SHO does not have the newer rod shifter -- I understand I\ncan get this for $230 from any Ford service center.  In addition, the\ncar received the full tune-up at 60K miles, receiving new platinum\nplugs and valve adjustment.\n\n    For a car with 92K miles on it, the car was virtually immaculate.\nThe clearcoat paint job was devoid of any large chips or dents,\nalthough the front air-dam\/molding was covered with lots of small\nscratches -- not surprising since most of the miles were spent on the\nhighway.\n\n    Having driven a smaller two-door coupe for so long, I was a bit\nconcerned about whether I could get used to driving a larger car.  To\nmy surprise, the size of the car doesn't bother me at all -- it seems\njust as nimble as my Celica!  (No comparisons with my Oldsmobile.  :-)\nVisibility from the driver's seat is excellent, helped mostly by of\nthe small the quarter-windows, aft of the back-seat door windows and\nin front of the C-pillar and rear window.  Parallel parking is a bit\nmore difficult, but other than that, I love the size.\n\n    In fact, I'm starting to appreciate the large trunk as I pack up\nfor a 14-hour drive to Washington, DC for the summer.  More on the\nride later in this review.\n\n\nEngine:\n    \n    As with anyone even slightly interested in SHOs, I was very\ninterested in the 24-valve 3.0L Yamaha \"Shogun\" engine.  I was not\ndisappointed.  Base performance of the engine under 4000 rpms is\ngood.  You can even do reasonable launches from second gear, although\nI don't make a practice of this.  The engine revs smoothly and eagerly\n-- tooling around town does not require many shifts.  This is good\nsince the shifter is definitely one of the weakest points of the car.\n(More on this later.)\n\n    While the performance of the engine under 4000 rpms may be\nunremarkable, it undergoes a Jekyll\/Hyde transformation once you hit\nhigher revs.  At 4500 rpms, a butterfly valve opens and you can\nliterally hear and feel the geometry of the engine changing as twelve\nmore valves open up.  The engine soars to its 7000 rpm redline, and\nyou are treated to, in my opinion, the sweetest sounding V6 around.\nThe engine inexplicably sounds OVERJOYED to be at 6500 rpm!\n\n    I've noticed that when I drive around town, I constantly watch the\ntach to see how far below 4000 rpm I am.  To go from 2000 rpm to 4000,\nyou may have to punch the accelerator -- while torque is more than\nadequate, it doesn't come fully online until those other 12 valves\nare used.\n\n\nTransmission:\n\n    When _Car and Driver_ first reviewed the car in 1988, they\nmarvelled at how Ford had put such a wimpy clutch and balky shifter\ninto the car.  I remember driving a friend's parent's SHO in 1990, and\nremember thinking about whether I had the leg strength to drive the\ncar in traffic -- the clutch was that stiff.  That was back then.\n\n    The entire clutch assembly on my SHO has been replaced under a\nFord recall in 1991.  The clutch on the SHO feels no stiffer than the\none on my Toyota Celica.  In fact, the friction point seems a bit\nlarger and more forgiving.\n\n    When playing with the shifter with the car parked, the shifter\nfelt very reasonable.  The 1-2 and 3-4 gates were where you'd expect\nit to be, and the shifting action was smooth.  On the road, it's\nmuch the same -- but you have to shift SLOWLY!  Make no mistake, it's\na clumsy shifter.\n\n    When hurrying shifts, like when I was initially trying to impress\nfriends, I consistently miss the 1-2 shift, often grope clumsily for\nthe 2-3 shift, and sometimes even muff the 3-4 shift.  I find this\npretty amazing in a car like this.\n\n    It also took me several days to realize that you get the smoothest\nshifts when you take your time.  Seems obvious, but compared to my\nToyota and my friend's Honda, this seems atrocious and clumsy.\nSomeone on rec.autos noted that CRXs should blow SHOs off-the-line\nbecause of the incredibly clumsy shifter.\n\n    I now shift much more sedately, and the shifter seems more\nreasonable.  When you play within these bounds, the shifter works\nsmoothly with no surprises.  I don't know whether the rod shifter\nupgrade would help at all.\n\n    Along these same lines, I initially had trouble shifting gears\nsmoothly.  Again, slowing down the shifts and taking more care to\nmatch revs when letting out the clutch helped immensely.  This took\nseveral days for me to get the hang of.  (I think some of my problems\nwere because I've never had a car with enough power to balk at bad\nshifts in higher gears.)\n\n    Occasionally, I have trouble shifting into reverse.  The shifter\nrefuses to enter the gate, and I often grind the synchros trying to \nget it into gear.  I'll be watching this carefully in the next couple\nof months.\n\n    A quirk:  When I upshift and the engine drops back to 1000-2500\nrpm, I hear a whirring and then a grinding noise coming from the the\nengine compartment.  Not terribly loud, but the passenger can\ndefinitely hear it.  I asked about it when I was looking at the car,\nas do all my passengers.  Apparently, this is a definitely a \"SHO\nsound\" and is the gearbox -- apparently called \"gear rollover\".\nReplies to my queries on rec.autos are at the end of this review.\n\n\nExterior:\n\n    As I mentioned before, I am astounded by how well the body of this\nSHO has stood up.  Paint chipping on the front bumper and grille are\nvirtually non-existent.  Looking at how older Tauri sometimes\ndon't age so gracefully, I wonder what the guys at Ford did\ndifferently to the SHO bodies.\n\n    The body, in my opinion, is extremely attractive with matching\ncolor body moldings than the stock Tauri.  For some odd reason, the\nSHO seems different enough from vanilla Tauri to get stares at\nstoplights -- of course, this could be my overactive imagination.\n:-)  SHOs get fog lights, a more open grille, a completely\nmonochromatic exterior, and a deeper ground skirt in the back with\n\"SHO\" stenciled in relief.  I've seen a couple SHOs whose owners have\ncolored these in with florescent colors or in black.  Yuck.\n\n    I don't think the car is flashy.  I like it that way.  I feel\nalmost anonymous with all those Tauri out there, but different and\ndistinctive enough to those of us who care.  :-)\n\n\nInterior:\n\n    The interior is what really makes me feel like I don't deserve the\ncar.  The seats are grey leather, the steering wheel and shifter are\ncovered with black leather, and the entire instrument panel is done in\na black\/grey\/metallic scheme.  \n\n    The instrumentation is stock Taurus, except for the 140 mph speedo\nand 8000 rpm tach.  You get a center console with two cupholders, a\nlarge compartment under the radio (great for a CD player), an armrest\nthat contains yet another compartment, three appropriately sized coin\nholders for tollways (I think), and a compartment for holding\ncassette tapes.  There's map-holders in the doors, and an oddly small\nglove compartment.\n\n    I spilled a whole can of Coke in the cupholder and was delighted\nto find that the entire rubber holder can be removed and washed in a\nsink.  Hey, I'm really impressed with the ergonomics and\nthoughtfulness that went into its design.  And it's a 1989, before the\ninterior was upgraded!\n\n    The backseat is bigger than any car I've had.  Why do they need so\nmuch space?  :-)  (No smart-ass comments, please.  :-)\n\n    The driver and passenger seat have lumbar and side bolsters.  From\nwhat I hear, it's not uncommon for the side bolsters to show wear.\nMine is no exception.  The left side bolster on the driver's has\ncracked and I'm not convinced the right bolster is inflating all the\nway.\n\n    A big surprise for me:  I forgot that SHOs don't have a normal\nhand parking brake.  Instead, they have the regular parking brake that\nyou press with your left foot.  Too bad.  Again, I'm getting used to\nit, but it seems a bit anachronistic to me.\n\n\nRide:\n\n    The suspension is nice and stiff.  Too stiff?  It's stiffer than\nany car I've had.  A friend's new 1993 Toyota Celica ST seems tauter\nand is still able to soak up bumps better.  The SHO seems stiffer with\nless ability to soak up bumps.  Driving over railroad tracks is a\nnoisy and jarring affair.  On the other hand, taking turns feels\nwonderful because the body is so rigid and doesn't flex at all -- I\nlistened for that before I bought the car.\n\n    On the highway, the ride is great.  When I drove the car from\nChicago back to Purdue, I had trouble keeping under 85 mph, let alone\nfrom trying to see what 100 mph really feels like.  It's a relatively\nquiet ride, but the sunroof rattles.  I've tried to find out what\nexactly makes all the noise up there, but it seems to be the window\nthat rests on the rails.  No easy way to get rid of it, I think.\n\n    Over the past three days, I've oscillated between thinking the\nsuspension is wonderful and perfect and thinking that the ride is way\ntoo rough.  (Not for me, mind you.  But I wonder whether I would\nadvise my dad to buy one for himself.)  But, I've discovered, as with\nthe shifter, if you take your time with shifts, you'll have no reason\nto complain.  Let me explain...\n\n    The ride is worst when turning and applying lots of power to the\nwheels.  I feel the wheels scrabbling for traction and torque steer\nmaking the car skitter left and right.  After I understood this, I\navoid the limits of traction -- and I'm a happy camper again.\n\n    It's not body rigidity, but the composure of the car.\n\n    As if matching the suspension, the steering feel is quite heavy.\nMy first impression of driving my SHO was how hard you had to turn the\nwheel at highway speeds.  It tracks straight as an arrow, but when\ndriving around a parking lot, the high-effort steering didn't seem so\nuseful.  However, it's reasonable, but it doesn't communicate the road\nto the driver as well as a 1993 Ford Probe GT.  IMHO, it's much better\nthan the steering on my Celica ST.\n\n    I wonder how bad this car is during winter?\n\n\nMiscellaneous notes:\n\n    GRIPES:\n\n    The rattles from the sunroof is intermittent -- some days it rattles\n        loudly, other days I look up wondering where all the noise went.\n\n    Activating the sunroof is sometimes very noisy -- loud squealing as\n\tit retracts on its rails.  I wonder if there is a quick fix for this.\n\tAgain, other days it completely disappears.  (Function of humidity?)\n\n    Once I made the connection between the sometimes awful feeling suspension\n\tand torque steer, I've never complained about ride.\n\n    I wish the seats had more support under the thighs.  Also, I wish the\n\tside bolsters would close more tightly.  \n\n    I hear that tires for this car can get really expensive.  I\n\tcurrently have Goodyear GT+4s that cost the previous owner $500\n\tfor four.\n\n    I used to hate the Ford stereo systems -- whose idea was it\n\tto use a volume *paddle*?  Now, to my amazement, I don't\n\treally mind...  and sometimes think it's an okay idea!!!\n\tPretty ridiculous, though.\n\n    Getting up to 4000 rpm sometimes seems to be a chore.  But,\n\tthis is no big deal.  There is more than enough torque\n\tdown low.\n\n    I often goof up the shifting when driving with friends.  It\n\ttook me a couple of days before I could really shift\n\tsmoothly from 2nd to 3rd gear.  (Hard to believe, isn't it?)\n\n    My car has almost 93,000 miles on it.  My parents noted that\n\tit is almost impossible to find a low-mileage SHO. \n\tAstute observation, IMHO.  I wonder how long I can make\n\tmy SHO last -- I just bought a book titled \"Drive It Forever\"\n\tfor tips in this department.  :-)\n\n    The goofy parking brake pedal still throws me for a loop.  I once\n\tparked the car in gear, and then accidentally let out the clutch\n\tafter I started it.  The car jolted forward, and bounced off\n\tthe car in front of me -- no paint damage at all, but starting the car \n\tis a whole new ritual for me with that fangled pedal!  Also, I began \n\tto wonder how strong that brake really is.  (Today, I backed out of \n\tparking spot today and started to drive away before I noticed \n\tthe glowing brake light.  Oops.)\n\n    The driver's power window creaks when closed all the way.  The same\n    \tthing happens in my parents 1989 Mercury Sable.  Oddly, all the\n\tother windows work smoothly.\n\n\n    LIKES:\n\n    I'm liking the interior amenities more and more each day.  The\n    \tcupholders are great.\n\n    I didn't expect to use the keyless entry buttons so much, but\n\tit really is handy.  You can lock all the doors by\n\tpressing the 7\/8 and 9\/10 buttons together!  Neat!  And\n\tyou can never lock yourself out of the car.\n\n    I really feel like I don't deserve this car.  I really can't\n\tbelieve that I could afford it.  I got this car ten years \n\tahead of schedule.  :-)\n\n    I love this car so much that I've been telling my parents to\n\tlook into buying one.  I love this car so much that I\n\twrote this 13K file -- I meant to write a couple of lines\n\tand ended up with this.  \n\n    If there were a J.D. Powers Survey for used car owners, I would have\n\tan opportunity to express my incredible satisfaction of owning this \n\tcar.  I don't like thinking about getting another car, but at this\n\tpoint in time, I'm sure I'd buy another SHO.  For under $7000, you\n\tcan't beat it.  (Next time with an airbag and ABS, though.)\n\n    Insurance-wise, this car is also a big win.  I pay the same premiums\n\tas on my 1987 Toyota Celica -- despite that it has nearly twice\n\tthe horsepower.  \n\n\n\nOther Odds and Ends:\n\n    Much to my amazement, there is no SHO mailing list anywhere.\nMaybe because the _SHO Registry_ publication has filled this void.  I\nhaven't joined yet, but I've noticed that queries about SHOs still\nappear on rec.autos about once a month.  Owners of SHOs are always\nquick to respond, and are very vocal fans of the cars.  (Maybe some\nof the most vocal on rec.autos.  :-)\n\n    I've put together the responses to my questions about the cars, as\nwell as other posts with useful information on these cars.  I'll be \nposting this in the form of a FAQ soon.  \n\n    If anyone is interested in starting a mailing list, please speak up!\nI don't know if I have the resources here at Purdue to start one, but \nmaybe someone out there does.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
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{"text":"I am happy to announce the first public release of the bit program,\n   an INTERACTIVE, FULL COLOR image viewer and editor based on SGI GL.\n   Besides typical touchup tasks, such as crop, rotate, smooth, etc,\n   bit offers some unique features not available in similar programs,\n   such as text and vector support and the separation of text and image.\n\n   The following is the relevant sections from the man page. \n   -----------------------------------------------------------------\n\nPre-Release of May, 1993                                       BIT(1L)\n\nNAME\n   bit - Bitmap Image Touchup for SGI Workstations\n\nDESCRIPTION\n  bit is an interactive full color image viewer and editor based on\n  Silicon Graphics GL. As a full color program, bit handles images of both\n  24bits and color index in a natural and efficient manner.\n\n  As an image viewer, bit allows list of images to be displayed in their\n  original type (24bits or color index) in any order and in any of the\n  many built-in styles of display. You can walk up and down the list using\n  mouse and keyboard, or you can let bit do the walk for you (The\n  SlideShow).  With the pan and zoom features, large images can be viewed\n  in full without being limited by the window or screen size.\n\n  As an image editor, bit performs a large number of image editing and\n  processing tasks accurately and efficiently. It keeps information loss\n  at any stage of the editing process at an absolute minimum by performing\n  subpixel sampling automatically while conserving the input image type\n  whenever possible to avoid unnecessary promotion and\/or quantization of\n  input images. You can also cut a piece of an image and paste it into\n  another.  In addition, arbitrarily colored and sized text and simple\n  geometric figures can be rendered on top of an image for annotation with\n  the option to make them part of the bitmap or output separately to take\n  advantage of the higher printer resolutions (e.g. PostScript).\n\n  Bit can also be used as a graphical user interface to many existing\n  image processing programs by defining external bindings which in essence\n  turn command line oriented programs into bit subfunctions and can be\n  accessed by a press of a button, and best of all, the processed image\n  will be read back and displayed immediately. Convolution using exter-\n  nally defined matrices of arbitrary order can be performed dynamically\n  giving great flexibility in processing an image.\n\nFEATURES\n\n  Bit performs all of its image manipulations interactively with a\n  continuous progress report, and once the processing is complete, \n  the processed image will be displayed.\n\n  Current features include\n\n  o Rotates an image by an arbitrary angle with the option of anti-aliasing\n    and filling the \"rotated out\" region with an arbitrary color.\n\n  o Scales an image by arbitrary factors in x- and\/or y-directions with\n    the option of subpixel sampling.\n\n  o Renders text of arbitrary color, size or orientation on top of an\n    image with the option of rendering directly into the raster or saving\n    the text and raster separately, such as into a PostScript file, to\n    take advantage of a higher printer resolution. Besides normal text\n    strings, many predefined special symbols can be input conveniently as\n    in TeX(1), e.g., $\\alpha$\\small$\\beta$ produces Greek alphabet alpha\n    followed by a slightly smaller Greek alphabet beta.\n\n  o Presents graphically the histogram of an image.\n\n  o Performs arbitrary 1-to-1 pixel transformation.  The transformation\n    function can be specified interactively and can be of arbitrary\n    forms. Further, the transformation can be applied to RGB channels\n    separately or simultaneously and to the entire image or a portion of\n    it. Many difficult tasks, such as thresholding, can be accomplished\n    rather easily by 1-to-1 transformation in combination with the avai-\n    lability of graphical histograms of the image.\n\n  o Places simple geometric figures (SGFs), e.g., arrows, circles, trian-\n    gles etc., of arbitrary color, size and orientation into an image at\n    arbitrary locations addressed either in absolute pixels or in some\n    user definable coordinate system units, with the option of rendering\n    directly into the raster or save the sgfs and raster separately (e.g,\n    PostScript file). All SGFs can be scaled in x- and y-directions\n    independently or simultaneously (this is how to get an ellipse from a\n    circle).\n\n  o Performs edge detection. In combination with image histograms and 1-\n    to-1 transformation, very accurate result can be obtained.\n\n  o Performs histogram equalization.\n\n  o Performs convolution with externally defined (square) matrices of\n    arbitrary order.\n\n  o Crops a rectangular portion of an image.\n\n  o Cuts and pastes across images.\n\n  o Magnifies any portion of an image by any amount.\n\n  o Displays a list of images in sequence with a user specifiable pause\n    interval between images. (SlideShow)\n\n  o Measures RGB intensities of a pixel at any location or all pixels\n    along an arbitrary line with the result presented as RGB intensities\n    or as an intensity vs. distance plot.\n\n  o Performs image type conversions.\n\n  o Converts image formats.\n\n  o Smoothes an image (Special convolution).\n\n  o Filters an image by external programs and read the filtered image\n    back and display it.\n\n  o Modify an individual pixel's RGB values.\n\n  o Performs FFT on the entire image or a portion of it and display the\n    resulting power spectra.\n\n  o Spray and brush paint in full color (unavailable in this pre-release).\n\n SUPPORTED FORMATS\n      o  IRIS RGB, native to SGI IRIS\n      o  JPEG(JFIF) format\n      o  CompuServ GIF\n      o  PNM(Portable Any Map), including PPM, PGM and PBM.\n      o  XBM (X Window Bitmap)\n      o  TIFF\n      o  PostScript(Write only)\n\nHardware requirements:\n---------------------------------------------------------------\n   Any SGI workstation that supports RGBmode(), including indigoes.\n\nWhere to get it:\n---------------------------------------------------------------\n   anonymous ftp to monte.svec.uh.edu   \/pub\/bit\/bitxxx.tar.Z\n   where xxx is the version number. Current version is 0.73\n\n   Read src\/01Readme for installation instructions after unpacking\n\nAcknowledgement:\n---------------------------------------------------------------\n   JPEG support is based on the Independent JPEG groups's library Version 4.\n   FORMS library, developed by Mark Overmars, is used for GUI.\n   Both JPEG and FORMS library are included in this release.\n\n---------------------------------------------------------------\n  Bit is the program you will ever need to view and annotate\n  images; The built-in editing features will satisfy most of\n  your editing needs. In addition, the external filter and dynamical\n  kernel will utilize any program you already have. So try it\n  (and you will like it).","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nThat was probably me.\nI meant only that nobody has overreacted yet.  It seemed to me that\nJerry was suggesting that people are currently overreacting, and I \nvehemently disagree.  I see a lot of talk, but not much action.\nI see now that I misunderstood Jerry's position.\n\n\nNot this bunch.  They'll just bitch on the Net for a while, and \nthen go back to lurking.\n\n\nActually, it's not quite that bad, but it's close.\n\nLook, we (collectively) have the power to throw the bums out, but we\ndon't use it.  We clearly don't need to go burning things down, but we\nclearly do need to throw at least some of the bums out.\nUnfortunately, the bums have learned to target only small groups of\npeople at a single time, so the masses won't react and throw them out.\nEventually, the masses will react, unless the bums cease their\nrelentless encroachment on liberty and despoilment of the economy.\nThe sooner it happens, the less the damages will be.  I don't want to\nlive in a war zone, either -- I want to see the bums thrown out before\nthey do some *real* damage.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nRobert McElwaine is the authoritative source of scientific data on Internet.\nHe can be reached alt.fan.mc-elwaine...\n\nSpiros","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I need to sell two pairs of BladeRunner in-line skates (we don't use them).\nOne is size 9 and one is size 12.  They are less than a year old and were\nused very little, generally in the Corridor.  They are in very good\ncondition.\n\nThey sell at Lechmere for $99.98 (we still have the boxes, if you want\nthem) and we'd like to get $85\/OBO for them.  Please respond by\ne-mail.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nIf that's the ONLY reason, I'd be inclined to doubt whether or not what\nthey profess is Christianity.  The relationship of faith is based upon\ntrust.  Fear and trust are generally incompatible.  If my only motivation\nis fear, is there room for trust?  If so, there's room for faith.  \nIf fear precludes trust, then there can't be faith.\n\nLarry Overacker (llo@shell.com)\n-- ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Hello,\nI heard that a certain disease (toxoplasmosys?) is transmitted by cats which\ncan harm the unborn fetus. Does anybody know about it? Is it a problem to \nhave a cat in the same apartment?\n\nThanks\n\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"This comes indirectly from Al Morgani who works in the studio\nfor ESPN hockey.\n\n\tThe management of ESPN was reluctant to leave the Pitt-NJ game \n(even though the outcome was certain) because of fear of the Wash-Ny game \ngoing to overtime.  When the Caps scored with :02 left to tie the game, Al said\nhe heard many people say f**K .!#$%.  \n\tESPN is under contractual obligation to show baseball and COULD NOT\nbroadcast the OT of the hockey game.  Next year, ESPN2 will be introduced so \nbaseball fans can watch baseball and hockey fans can watch hockey.\n\n\tGET OFF ESPN'S BACK AND STOP POSTING ARTICLES ON THIS SUBJECT!!!\nThere have been to many f****n complainers about this game that it's making me\nsick.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Well, I'm not going to quote the message, but anyhow...\n \n                Mail fraud is a FEDERAL OFFENCE!  PUNNISHABLE BY TIME AND \n                        >>> BIG <<<\n                    > > >  B I G  < < <\n                         F I N E S \n                          ! ! ! !\n          What you can do is contact the local authorities in Arizona \nwhere this scammer resides, inform them of the situation (if you have \nproof of the transaction, that would also help), and they should be able \nto take it from there.\n \n        Yeah, this guy CAN get heavily penalized for this.  Don't think \nthat just because you have never met he cannot be prosecuted.\n \n                !!! TAKE HIM  > D O W N < !!!\n \n    ... hope I'm not being too foreward?...\n \n \n  _________________________________________________\n  Inspiration  |   ___                             |\n  comes to     |  \\   o  baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca |\n  those who    | (  ^  ) baden@inqmind.bison.mb.ca |\n  seek the     |   \/-\\      =] Baden de Bari [=    |\n  unknown.     |                                   |","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nThat was Clint Malarchuk.  That was a very dangerous accident.  He could he\ndied right there on the ice.  However, he has played since  \nbut I don't know where he is now.  I think he is still playing but I'm\nnot positive.  He was a Sabre at the time.\nI don't know who skated into him though.\n\n\nI remember a couple of seasons before the Malarchuk incident Borje\nSalming of Toronto fell down in the crease and someone skated into\nhis face.  That took a lot of stiches to fix.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":" \n   It was implied in the first technical posting by Dorothy Denning that the\nFBI would do the decryption *for* the law enforcement agencies.  It wasn't\nclear to me from the post whether this would be done in realtime or not, or\nwhether the FBI would just decrypt the session keys for the locals, or would\ndo the whole message.\n \n   One thing I'm a bit puzzled by:  Why aren't they doing this with a public\nkey scheme of some sort?  You could generate two uniqe public\/private pairsor\nfor each chip.  Then, escrow the private keys with the escrow agencies.  Set\nthe protocol up to encrypt the session key with both public keys.  To decrypt\na message, both escrow agencies (in the right order, for most PK schemes)\nhave to decrypt with the escrowed private key.  This way, there wouldn't be\nthecconcern that, once the police had asked fo  a warrant\/wiretap, they\nwould have your key forver.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
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{"text":"A really sad op-ed appeared in my school's newpaper today.  It\nclaimed that full-auto weapons are illegal in the U.S.\nI understand that full-auto weapons made and registered before\nMay 19, 1986 are still legal in 40 of the 50 states.  Is\nTexas one of those states?\n\nCan anyone point me to a source for info on how many people have been \nkilled by legal full-auto weapons in the U.S.?\n\nAnd finally, I think it would be great if anyone was keeping a digest\nof facts on the Waco incident.  In particular, I would like a source\nfor the FBI\/BATF mentioning the supposed methamphetamine lab, and\ninformation on the beginning of the raid, specifically BATF\nlies.\n\nI am also interested in past BATF no-knock warrents which have lead\nto personal and property damage against innocent citizens.\n\nI intend to put together a reply to this op-ed very soon.  The author\nof the piece states he wants to work for the BATF.  gack!  ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\tThe Libertarians believe in getting the government off the\nbacks of the people, so that the free market can solve problems.\n\n\tLibertarians believe in an end to the welfare state, an end to\ngovernment subsidies of all sorts.  The basic idea is that the\ngovernment is way too big and way too expensive, and should be shrunk\ndown to a reasonable size.\n\n\tThey also believe in a complete end to foreign aid, including\nthe stationing of American troops overseas.  We can not and should not\nbe policing the world.\n\n\n\tI agree that the people who come into this group and describe\nthemselves as Libertarians seem to posses the charictaristics you\ndescribe, but heck, we're not all like this.  I'm a libertarian, and\nI've got a great sense of humor! :)\n\nAdam\n\n\nAdam Shostack \t\t\t\t       adam@das.harvard.edu","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I don't know.  I think Phil Plantier has the ugliest stance.  He looks like\nhe's sitting on the toilet.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"CALL FOR VOTES\n\nThis is the official 2nd Call For Votes for this newsgroup.\n\nNAME OF PROPOSED NEWSGROUP: \n==========================\n\n     soc.religion.islam.ahmadiyya\n\n\nCHARTER: \n=======\n\n     A religious newsgroup, which would mainly be devoted to \nfostering an understanding and appraisal of the Ahmadiyya Muslim\nCommunity, its beliefs, ideology and philosophy. It will also \ndiscuss the distinction between Ahmadiyya Muslim Community and \nother branches of Islam.\n     \n     In addition this newsgroup will also discuss the beliefs,  \nteachings, and philosophy of all the other major religions to pro-\nmote universal religious appreciation, awareness, and tolerance.\n\n     The newsgroup may also be used to post important religious\nevents within the world wide Ahmadiyya Islamic Community.\n\n\nVOTING INSTRUCTIONS: \n====================\n\nVoting is being held since the first call for votes appeared (May 4, 1993),\nand will continue untill May 25, 1993 (23:59:59 GMT)\n\nAll votes should be received within this period. It gives a total\nof 21 days for all to vote.\n\nAll votes in _favor_ of creation of the proposed newsgroup should\nbe sent in a form of a e-mail message to:\n\n                \n                SRIA-YES@UCSU.COLORADO.EDU\n\n\nwith a clear statement in the  body of the message like:\n\n     I vote YES for soc.religion.islam.ahmadiyya\n     I vote in favor of s.r.i.a.\n     etc.\n\nSimilarly all votes _against_ the proposed newsgroup should be \nsent in a form of a e-mail message to:\n\n\n                SRIA-NO@UCSU.COLORADO.EDU\n\n\nwith a clear statement in the body of the message like:\n\n     I vote NO for soc.religion.islam.ahmadiyya\n     I vote against the creation of s.r.i.a.\n     etc.\n\n\n*  You may also include your vote in the SUBJECT header of your mail.\n\n*  Please make sure to include your FULL NAME, if your mailer does\n   not do that for you. \n\n*  One person may only vote ONCE. No matter how many e-mail accounts\n   s\/he has. Only one vote per person shall be considered valid.\n\n*  Any ambiguous votes like \"I vote YES for S.R.I.A., if ....\" shall \n   only be considered comments and would NOT be counted as votes.\n\n*  Votes received _after_ 23:59:59 GMT, on May 25, 1993, will not\n   be valid and not counted.\n\n*  In the event of multiple votes being received from the same\n   person, only the last one will be counted. If you change your \n   mind regarding the way you have voted, send your new vote again,\n   your previous vote shall be discarded.\n   \n*  Posting to USENET will NOT be counted a vote.\n\n*  Please DO NOT send any votes to the e-mail address of the per-\n   son who has posted this CVF. Those votes shall not be counted\n   either.\n\n\nNOTE: An acknowledgement shall be sent to everyone who votes.Two \nadditional CFV's will be posted during the course of the vote.\nNumber(s) of \"YES\" or \"NO\" votes will not be disclosed during the\nthe voting period, at the end of which all votes shall be made\npublic.\n\n\nPURPOSE OF THE NEWSGROUP: \n========================\n\n    The following are the main purposes this group shall achieve:\n\n    i)    To highlight the common beliefs of all major religions \n          and philosophical traditions as they relate to Ahmadiyya \n          Muslim Community.\n\n    ii)   To discuss the doctrines, origin and teachings the Ahmad-\n          iyya Muslim Community, a dynamic world-wide movement.\n\n    iii)  To expound Islamic teachings and beliefs in the Holy \n          Quran and Islamic traditions from the Ahmadiyya Islamic\n          perspective.\n\n    iv)   To emphasize and discuss the similarities between Ahmadi \n          Muslims and followers of other religions of the world and \n          to explore how understanding and respect for each other's\n          faith can be brought about to eliminate religious intol-\n          erance and malice among people of all religious and phil-\n          osophical traditions.\n          \n    v)    To look into the origin and teachings of all religions in\n          general and of Islam and Ahmadiyya Muslim Movement in par-\n          ticular, and to use the commonality of origin to foster\n          better understanding among Ahmadi Muslims and other people\n          and to promote an acceptance of universality of fundamental\n          rights to the freedom of conscience.\n\n    vi)   To point out current world problems and suggest solutions \n          to these problems, as offered by different religions and \n          systems of ethical philosophies.\n\n    vii)  To investigate the implications of science on religion \n          with particular emphasis on the Ahmadi Muslim perspective,\n          but with openness to dialogue with people of all religions\n          and philosophical traditions with reasoned positions as to\n          the relationship between religion and empirical science,\n          logic, and scientific ethics. \n          \n    viii) To exchange important news and views about the Ahmadiyya\n          Muslim Community and of other religions.\n\n    ix)   To add diversity to the existing religious newsgroups pre-  \n          sent on Usenet in the interest of promoting a forum for\n          decorous dialogue. \n\n    x)    To inquire why religious persecution is on the rise in the\n          world and suggest solutions to remedy the ever deterior-\n          ating situation in the world in general and in the Islamic\n          world in particular. \n\n    xi)   To commemorate the contributions to humanity, society and\n          world peace made by the founders and followers of all\n          religions in general and by the International Ahmadiyya\n          Muslim community in particular.\n\n\nTYPE: \n====\n\nThe group will be MODERATED for orderly and free religious dialo-\ngue. The moderation will NOT prevent disagreement, dissent, or \ncontroversy based on a difference of beliefs or doctrine; rather,\nthe moderators will seek mainly to discourage gratuitously deroga-\ntory, abusive, or squalid language, and the introduction of issues\nwhich are irrelevant based on the provisions of this charter. \n\nThe moderators have been chosen through personal e-mail and through\na general consensus among the proponents by discussion in news.groups.\nThe following moderators have been proposed and agreed upon:\n\nModerator:     Nabeel A. Rana  <rana@rintintin.colorado.edu>\nCo-Moderator:  Dr. Tahir Ijaz  <ijaz@ccu.umanitoba.ca>\n\n\n\nA  BRIEF  DESCRIPTION  ABOUT  AHMADIYYA  ISLAM:\n===============================================\n\n\n        The Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam, an international organi-\nsation, was found in 1889 in Qadian, India. The founder of this\nmovement, Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835-1908), was proclaimed to \nbe the Promised Reformer of this age as foretold in the Scriptures\nof almost all major religions of the world. He claimed to be the \nfulfillment of the long awaited second comming of Jesus Christ\n(metaphorically), the Muslim Mahdi, and the Promised Messiah.\n\n        The claims of Hazrat Ahmad raised storms of hostility and\nextreme opposition, which are often witnessed in the history of \ndivine reformers. Even today this sect is being persecuted especial-\nly in some of the Muslim regimes. The right of Ahmadi Muslims to \nopenly practice their religion and to define themselves as Muslims\nhas been severely restricted in many Muslim Countries. The United\nNations, human rights organizations such as Amnesty International\nand top leaderships of some countries have voiced their concerns \nagainst this denial of basic human and civil liberaties to the\nmembers of this movement, but so far to no avail.\n\n        Despite the opposition and persecution, the movement cont-\ninues to grow with a current membership of millions from around the\nworld in over 130 countries, who come from diverse ethnic and cul-\ntural backgrounds.\n\n        The movement is devoted to world peace and strives towards\ndeveloping a better understanding of all religions. Ahmadi Muslims\nhave always been opposed to all forms of violence, bigotry, reli-\ngious intolerance and fundamentalism.\n\n        Among its many philanthropic activities, the sect has es-\ntablished a network of hundreds of schools, hospitals, and clinics\nin many third world countries. These institutions are staffed by\nvolunteer professionals and are fully financed by the movement's\ninternal resources. The movement stresses the importance of educa-\ntion and leadership. Its members have included a high number of\nprofessionals as well as world class individuals.\n\n        The Ahmadiyya mission is to bring about a universal moral\nreform, establish peace and justice, and to unite mankind under\none universal brotherhood.\n\n\nNEWSGROUP CREATION: \n==================\n\n        The  discussion for this proposed newsgroup has now offi-\ncially ended. Voting will be held for three weeks. If the news-\ngroup gets 2\/3rd majority AND 100 more \"YES\/Create\" votes than\n\"NO\/don't create\" votes; the newsgroup shall be created. \n\n\nABOUT THE VOTE-TAKER: \n====================\n\n        Mr. Anthony Lest has been asked by the proponents of\nthis newsgroup to act as an official impartial vote-taker for the\nproposed newsgroup. He has no objection to  use his workstation\nfor the purpose of vote-taking. Neither the University of Colora-\ndo, nor Anthony Lest has anything to do with the proposal of the\nnewsgroup.  They are just collecting the votes as a neutral third\nparty.\n\nQUESTIONS OR COMMENTS:\n=====================\n\n        Any questions or comments about the proposed newsgroup\nmay be sent to:\n     Nabeel A. Rana  <rana@rintintin.colorado.edu>","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\tWhat you are trying to describe is that transition point where\n\tthe front wheel actually reverses direction; turns backwards.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nNot to mention that Lankford had been hurt two nights before running\ninto the outfield wall. This being the reason he was available to pinch-\nanything.  His ribs were the problem so he could run but not hit.\nTorre is no white rat but give him credit for what he is , a pretty darn\ngood manager. with the exception of the Felix fiasco, but i'm not sure  \nwho's brainchild that was.\n                       -BIL","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"After hearing endless debate (READ: name-calling) over which os is better, dos\nand windows or OS\/2 and finally having enought resourses to play with a couple\nof different operating systems, I have decided to put the two products to a\nhead to head test, as so many fellow newsposters have suggested.  I have, \nhowever, no desire whatsoever to use a version of os\/2 which wont REALLY\ndo what it says (i.e. run windows apps)  OS\/2 2.0-2.1 will not run windows\napps in 386 enhansed mode, something that most larger windows apps require, but\nOS\/2 2.2, which is supposed to be in beta test, is supposed to.  I have heard\nthat os\/2 2.2 beta is available via ftp, and I was wondering if anyone knew\nwhere to obtain a copy.  I would appreciate any information, as I would like, \nonce and for all, to establish for myself which is the best os for my needs.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nI couldn't agree more.  The Jays have a lot of power in their line-up. \nSo far pitching has been the biggest problem.  Maybe we can get Acker back? :-)\n\n\nOne incident that sticks out in my mind was when Derek Bell ran back out on\nto the feild after the Jays had won the division and all the players were\nback in the clubhouse.  Bell ran around the field with his arms in the air,\nwaving a big towel over his head.  He looked like a big jerk, especially\nwhen you consider he did not contribute much to the team over the whole\nseason.  The next day, Winfield and Carter somehow got the keys to Bell's\nJeep and brought it out on to the feild before the game started.  The stadium\nannouncer said that there was going to be a draw later in the game for Bell's\njeep.  Bell really freaked out. I don't think Bell was to popular after that.\n\nI think that Jackson might be trying a little too hard right now.  He's known\nfor being a great outfielder,  and he's not the only Blue Jay who has been\nbooting balls and playing generally awful.\n\n\nandrew\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"WARNING WARNING MAY CAUSE UNPLEASANTNESS!\n\n\nIt's a \"make before break\" type of switch.  If not required, it ought to be\nfor high-low beams.  \n\nThere might be a wee problem with this.  If you use both filaments at the\nsame time, the bulb is tossing out a great deal more heat than normal.\nPossibly enough to shorten it's life span.  My Honda CRX cage [a cage that\nreally wanted to be a bike] had wimpy stock lights.  So we used to run\naround with both beams on.  Made a mucho big difference - until both low\nbeam filaments died nearly simultaneously!  This was two weeks after\nfinding out how nice it was to use both beams.  I replaced the lights with\nquartz-halogen lights and that ended the problem.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nI'm curious to know if Christians ever read books based on critique\non the religion, classical text such as \"Age of Reason\" by Paine,\nor \"The Myth Maker\" by Jacobi. Sometimes it is good to know your\nenemy, and if you want to do serious research you have to understand\nboth sides, and not solely the one and only right one.\n\nCheers,\nKent\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Here are the NHL's alltime leaders in goals and points at the end of\nthe 1992-3 season. Again, much thanks to Joseph Achkar.\n\nCarl\n\nNotes: An active player is a player that has scored at least one\npoint the past season.  The points leaders follow the goal leaders.\nIf you find any mistakes, please send me email.\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nAll time NHL leading goal scorers (* denotes active player):\n\n  1.  Gordie Howe          Det-Hfd                            801\n  2. *Wayne Gretzky        Edm-LA                             765\n  3.  Marcel Dionne        Det-LA-NYR                         731\n  4.  Phil Esposito        Chi-Bos-NYR                        717\n  5.  Bobby Hull           Chi-Wpg-Hfd                        610\n  6. *Mike Gartner         Wsh-Min-NYR                        583\n  7.  Mike Bossy           NYI                                573\n  8.  Guy Lafleur          Mtl-NYR-Que                        560\n  9.  Johnny Bucyk         Det-Bos                            556\n 10.  Maurice Richard      Mtl                                544\n 11.  Stan Mikita          Chi                                541\n 12.  Frank Mahovlich      Tor-Det-Mtl                        533\n 13. *Michel Goulet        Que-Chi                            532\n 14. *Jari Kurri           Edm-LA                             524\n 15.  Bryan Trottier       NYI-Pit                            520\n 16.  Gilbert Perreault    Buf                                512\n 17.  Jean Beliveau        Mtl                                507\n 18.  Lanny McDonald       Tor-Col-Cgy                        500\n 19.  Jean Ratelle         NYR-Bos                            491\n 20.  Norm Ullman          Det-Tor                            490\n 21. *Dino Ciccarelli      Min-Wsh-Det                        485\n 22.  Darryl Sittler       Tor-Phi-Det                        484\n 23. *Mario Lemieux        Pit                                477\n 24. *Glenn Anderson       Edm-Tor                            459\n 25.  Alex Delvecchio      Det                                456\n 26. *Mark Messier         Edm-NYR                            452\n 27. *Dale Hawerchuk       Wpg-Buf                            449\n 28.  Rick Middleton       NYR-Bos                            448\n 29. *Steve Yzerman        Det                                445\n 30. *Peter Stastny        Que-NJ                             444\n 31.  Rick Vaive           Van-Tor-Chi-Buf                    441\n 32. *Joe Mullen           StL-Cgy-Pit                        433\n 33.  Yvan Cournoyer       Mtl                                428\n 34. *Dave Taylor          LA                                 427\n 35.  Steve Shutt          Mtl-LA                             424\n 36. *Denis Savard         Chi-Mtl                            423\n 37.  Bill Barber          Phi                                420\n 38. *Brian Propp          Phi-Bos-Min                        413\n 39.  Gary Unger           Tor-Det-StL-Atl-LA-Edm             413\n 40.  Rod Gilbert          NYR                                406\n 41. *Steve Larmer         Chi                                406\n 42. *John Ogrodnick       Det-Que-NYR                        402\n-----------------------------------------------------------------\n\nOther active players:\n     *Bernie Nicholls      LA-NYR-Edm-NJ                      397\n     *Pat LaFontaine       NYI-Buf                            386\n     *Brian Bellows        Min-Mtl                            382\n     *Dave Andreychuk      Buf-Tor                            373\n     *Tim Kerr             Phi-NYR-Hfd                        370\n     *Bobby Smith          Min-Mtl                            357\n     *Brett Hull           Cgy-StL                            356\n     *Luc Robitaille       LA                                 353\n     *Mike Foligno         Det-Buf-Tor                        351\n     *Dave Christian       Wpg-Wsh-Bos-StL-Chi                340\n     *Paul Coffey          Edm-Pit-LA-Det                     330\n     *Brent Sutter         NYI-Chi                            325\n     *Pat Verbeek          NJ-Hfd                             318\n     *Ron Francis          Hfd-Pit                            311\n     *Cam Neely            Van-Bos                            292\n     *Ray Bourque          Bos                                291\n     *Bob Carpenter        Wsh-NYR-LA-Bos-Tor                 285\n     *Brent Ashton         Van-Col-NJ-Min-Que-Det-Wpg-Bos-Cgy 284\n     *Doug Gilmour         Stl-Cgy-Tor                        277\n     *Rick Tocchet         Phi-Pit                            277\n     *Kevin Dineen         Hfd-Phi                            275\n     *Tomas Sandstrom      NYR-LA                             273\n     *Dale Hunter          Que-Wsh                            269\n     *Ryan Walter          Wsh-Mtl-Van                        264\n     *Brian Mullen         Wpg-NYR-SJ-NYI                     260\n     *Ed Olczyk            Chi-Tor-Wpg-NYR                    260\n     *Kirk Muller          NJ-Mtl                             258\n     *Joe Nieuwendyk       Cgy                                257\n     *Jimmy Carson         LA-Edm-Det                         254\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nAll time NHL scoring leaders (* denotes active player):\n\n  1. *Wayne Gretzky        Edm-LA                             765 1563 2328\n  2.  Gordie Howe          Det-Hfd                            801 1049 1850\n  3.  Marcel Dionne        Det-LA-NYR                         731 1040 1771\n  4.  Phil Esposito        Chi-Bos-NYR                        717  873 1590\n  5.  Stan Mikita          Chi                                541  926 1467\n  6.  Bryan Trottier       NYI-Pit                            520  890 1410\n  7.  Johnny Bucyk         Det-Bos                            556  813 1369\n  8.  Guy Lafleur          Mtl-NYR-Que                        560  793 1353\n  9.  Gilbert Perreault    Buf                                512  814 1326\n 10.  Alex Delvecchio      Det                                456  825 1281\n 11.  Jean Ratelle         NYR-Bos                            491  776 1267\n 12. *Mark Messier         Edm-NYR                            452  780 1232\n 13.  Norm Ullman          Det-Tor                            490  739 1229\n 14. *Peter Stastny        Que-NJ                             444  777 1221\n 15.  Jean Beliveau        Mtl                                507  712 1219\n 16. *Dale Hawerchuk       Wpg-Buf                            449  763 1212\n 17.  Bobby Clarke         Phi                                358  852 1210\n 18. *Paul Coffey          Edm-Pit-LA-Det                     330  871 1201\n 19. *Denis Savard         Chi-Mtl                            423  769 1192\n 20. *Jari Kurri           Edm-LA                             524  666 1190\n 21. *Mario Lemieux        Pit                                477  697 1174\n 22.  Bobby Hull           Chi-Wpg-Hfd                        610  560 1170\n 23.  Bernie Federko       StL                                369  761 1130\n 24.  Mike Bossy           NYI                                573  553 1126\n 25. *Michel Goulet        Que-Chi                            532  590 1122\n 26.  Darryl Sittler       Tor-Phi-Det                        484  637 1121\n 27. *Mike Gartner         Wsh-Min-NYR                        583  524 1107\n 28.  Frank Mahovlich      Tor-Det-Mtl                        533  570 1103\n 29. *Ray Bourque          Bos                                291  806 1099\n 30. *Dave Taylor          LA                                 427  635 1062\n 31.  Denis Potvin         NYI                                310  742 1052\n 32.  Henri Richard        Mtl                                358  688 1046\n 33. *Steve Yzerman        Det                                445  595 1040\n 34. *Bobby Smith          Min-Mtl                            357  679 1036\n 35.  Rod Gilbert          NYR                                406  615 1021\n 36. *Glenn Anderson       Edm-Tor                            459  559 1018\n 37.  Lanny McDonald       Tor-Col-Cgy                        500  506 1006\n 38.  Rick Middleton       NYR-Bos                            448  540  988\n 39.  Dave Keon            Tor-Hfd                            396  590  986\n 40. *Ron Francis          Hfd-Pit                            311  675  986\n 41. *Bernie Nicholls      LA-NYR-Edm-NJ                      397  580  977\n 42. *Brian Propp          Phi-Bos-Min                        413  561  974\n 43.  Andy Bathgate        NYR-Tor-Det-Pit                    349  624  973\n 44.  Maurice Richard      Mtl                                544  421  965\n 45.  Larry Robinson       Mtl-LA                             208  750  958\n 46. *Dino Ciccarelli      Min-Wsh-Det                        485  472  957\n 47. *Steve Larmer         Chi                                406  517  923\n 48. *Joe Mullen           StL-Cgy-Pit                        433  486  919\n 49.  Bobby Orr            Bos-Chi                            270  645  915\n 50.  Brad Park            NYR-Bos-Det                        213  683  896\n 51.  Butch Goring         LA-NYI-Bos                         375  513  888\n 52.  Bill Barber          Phi                                420  463  883\n 53.  Dennis Maruk         Cal-Cle-Wsh-Min                    356  521  877\n 54.  Ivan Boldirev        Bos-Cal-Chi-Atl-Van-Det            361  505  866\n 55.  Yvan Cournoyer       Mtl                                428  435  863\n 56.  Dean Prentice        NYR-Bos-Det-Pit-Min                391  469  860\n 57.  Ted Lindsay          Det-Chi                            379  472  851\n 58.  Tom Lysiak           Atl-Chi                            292  551  843\n 59. *Dale Hunter          Que-Wsh                            269  570  839\n 60.  John Tonelli         NYI-Cgy-LA-Chi-Que                 325  511  836\n 61.  Jacques Lemaire      Mtl                                366  469  835\n 62. *Larry Murphy         LA-Wsh-Min-Pit                     203  631  834\n 63. *John Ogrodnick       Det-Que-NYR                        402  425  827\n 64. *Doug Wilson          Chi-SJ                             237  590  827\n 65. *Doug Gilmour         Stl-Cgy-Tor                        277  548  825\n 66.  Red Kelly            Det-Tor                            281  542  823\n 67.  Pierre Larouche      Pit-Mtl-Hfd-NYR                    395  427  822\n 68.  Bernie Geoffrion     Mtl-NYR                            393  429  822\n 69.  Steve Shutt          Mtl-LA                             424  393  817\n 70. *Phil Housley         Buf-Wpg                            242  575  817\n 71.  Wilf Paiment         KC-Col-Tor-Que-NYR-Buf-Pit         356  458  814\n 72.  Peter McNab          Buf-Bos-Van-NJ                     363  450  813\n 73. *Brian Bellows        Min-Mtl                            382  428  810\n 74. *Dave Andreychuk      Buf-Tor                            373  436  809\n 75.  Pit Martin           Det-Bos-Chi-Van                    324  485  809\n 76. *Pat LaFontaine       NYI-Buf                            386  421  807\n 77.  Ken Linesman         Phi-Edm-Bos                        256  551  807\n 78.  Gary Unger           Tor-Det-StL-Atl-LA-Edm             413  391  804\n 79.  Ken Hodge,Sr         Chi-Bos-NYR                        328  472  800\n 80. *Neal Broten          Min                                249  547  796\n 81.  Wayne Cashman        Bos                                277  516  793\n 82.  Rick Vaive           Van-Tor-Chi-Buf                    441  347  788\n 83.  Borje Salming        Tor-Det                            150  637  787\n 84.  Jean Pronovost       Pit-Atl-Wsh                        391  383  774\n 85.  Peter Mahovlich      Det-Mtl-Pit                        288  485  773\n 86. *Dave Christian       Wpg-Wsh-Bos-StL-Chi                340  430  770\n 87.  Rick Kehoe           Tor-Pit                            371  396  767\n 88.  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{"text":"\n\n\nOf course not. I would think that would be great _fun_, not having ever\nfelt the joy and peace the Christians speak of with a longing gaze.\nThis is not what I got when I believed - I just tried to hide my fear\nof getting punished for something I never was sure of. The Bible is\nhopelessly confusing for someone who wants to know for sure. God did\nnot answer. In the end, I found I had been following a mass delusion,\na lie. I can't believe in a being who refuses to give a slightest hint\nof her existence.\n\n\nI suggest they should honestly reconsider the reasons why they believe\nand analyse their position. In fact, it is amusing to note in this\ncontext that many fundamentalist publications tell us exactly the\nopposite - one should not examine one's belief critically.\n\nI'll tell you something I left out of my 'testimony' I posted to this\ngroup two months ago. A day after I finally found out my faith is over,\nI decided to try just one more time. The same cycle of emotional\nresponses fired once again, but this time the delusion lasted only\na couple of hours. I told my friend in a phone that it really works,\nthank god, just to think about it again when I hung up. I had to admit\nthat I had lied, and fallen prey to the same illusion.\n\n\nI used to believe what I read in books when I was younger, or what\nother people told me, but I grew more and more skeptical the more I\nread. I learned what it means to use _reason_.\n\nAs a student of chemistry, I had to perform a qualitative analysis\nof a mixture of two organic compounds in the lab. I _hated_ experiments\nlike this - they are old-fashioned and increase the student's workload\nconsiderably. Besides, I had to do it twice, since I failed in my first\nattempt. However, I think I'll never forget the lesson: \n\nNo matter how strongly you believe the structure of the unknown is X,\nit may still be Y. It is _very_ tempting to jump into conclusions, take\na leap of faith, assure oneself, ignore the data which is inconsistent. \nBut it can still be wrong. \n\nI found out that I was, after all, using exactly the same mechanism\nto believe in god - mental self-assurance, suspension of fear, \nfiltering of information. In other words, it was only me, no god\nplaying any part. \n\n\nOh? And I had better believe this? Dan, many UFO stories are much better\ndocumented than the resurrection of Jesus. The resurrection is documented\nquite haphazardly in the Bible - it seems the authors did not pay too\nmuch attention to which wild rumour to leave out. Besides, the ends of\nthe gospels probably contain later additions and insertions; for instance,\nthe end of Mark (16:9-20) is missing from many early texts, says my Bible.\n\nJesus may have lived and died, but he was probably misunderstood.\n\n\nThis is easy. I believe that the world exists independent of my mind,\nand that logic and reason can be used to interpret and analyse what I\nobserve. Nothing else need to be taken on faith, I will go by the\nevidence. \n\nIt makes no difference whether I believe George Washington existed or not.\nI assume that he did, considering the vast amount of evidence presented.\n\n\nA liar, how do you know what my attitude was? Try reading your Bible\nagain. \n\nI was willing to die for my faith. Those who do are usually remembered\nas heroes, at least among those who believe. Dan, do you think I'm\nlying when I say I believed firmly for 15 years? It seems it is \nvery difficult to admit that someone who has really believed does not\ndo so anymore. But I can't go on lying to myself.\n\nBlind trust is dangerous, and I was just another blind led by the blind.\nBut if god really wants me, she'll know what to do. I'm willing. I just\ndon't know whether she exists - looking at the available evidence,\nit looks like she doesn't. \n\nPetri","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
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{"text":"Greetings. I've recently decided to chuck the linear regulators\n\tand learn the \"black magic\" art of switching power supplies...\n\t(before anyone flames me, I KNOW, both have their place :-)\n\n\tAnyways, I've built the basic up & down converters with pretty\n\tgood results (>80% efficiency) but I'm running into problems\n\twhen I try to design & build anything that puts out serious\n\tamps... I know it can be done (I have some 5V@200A guts on my\n\tbench) but something puzzles me: I'm using a simple choke as \n\tthe storage element (basicly a toroid with a single winding)\n\tbut ALL commercial models use transformers with MANY windings.\n\tI traced a few and they seem to use some of the winding for\n\tthe usual error\/feedback but some of the others seem to loose\n\tme... What are they for? Better than that, anyone have a full\n\tschematic for one of these that I could get a copy of? I'd\n\tlove to see how they manage to squeeze out so much from such\n\tlow volume :-)\n\n\tMy other problems (in getting high amps & good efficiency) are\n\t1) Lack of sources of ideal components (calculated) and 2)\n\tLimited knowledge of the whole topic... I'm doing this on my\n\town (not school) mind you (in fact, I have yet to take any\n\tcourse that covers transistors ;-)\n\n\tSo, is the answer to #1 the accumulation of dead commercial\n\tmodels and truning into a scavanger (not that it's not what\n\tI'm doing now...) and #2 getting & understanding schematics\n\tand a bit more of the [mind-boggling] theory? \n\n\tTake care.\n\n\tP.S. My goal is 12V @ ~25A in (car battery) -> 250VAC out and\n\t(on the other end) 250V -> +5VDC @ 5A, -5V @ 1A, +12VDC @8A\n\tand -12VDC @1A... the distance between the two will be\n\tmore than 100 feet (of 14-16 gauge) but less than 300 feet.\n\tWould like to have a working model in a year or so... :-) \n\t(Do I have a chance to make it?)","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nSo when they took the time to *copy* *the* *text* correctly, that includes\n\"obvious corruptions?\"\n\n\nSo when they took the time to *copy* *the* *text* correctly, that does not\nexclude \"variant readings from the masoretic text\" which are \"of little \ntheological import\"\n\n\nHey, you're the expert.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\tI keep hearing people say this.  It assumes that we, at some point,\n\thad a choice at the ballot box: \"Vote yes or no I want the FBI\n\tand BATF to become latter-day Gestapos\".  That just isn't so.\n\tThe process is far more complex.  We do not have direct control over\n\tthe bureaucracy.  When we evaluate our representatives we don't often\n\tknow what their contribution is to the wayward direction of the\n\tfederal law enforcement bureacracy.  To assert that we got what\n\twe wanted is absurd.  \n\n\tOh, good I feel much better now. ;-)  ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\tWhy sell them at a low price to poor people immediately?  The NRA\nis an educational organization too, after all, and it would be a shame\nto pay all that money for new guns when these cheap guns would allow a\nlot of money thus saved to be used in opening more classes.  Mention\nthat the NRA trains our boys in blue and you've got the media between\na rock and a hard place.\n\n\t\"City pays $50 per gun to reduce crime.\"\n\t\t\tor\n\t\"NRA to pay $50 per gun to provide training guns for police\n\t and citizens.  Classes expanded with money saved.\"","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Count me in for $1000.00.  \n\nAllan Lockridge\n\nMy Opinions are my own and are not for sale.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I have the following Macintosh software for sale.  Email me if interested, or\nfor complete descriptions.  All prices are negotiable, but first offer at\nasking price gets it.\n\nPrices include First Class, 2-day shipping!!! (Outside U.S. extra)\n\nOIDS                     $20\nExpert Color Paint       $20\nRoboSport                $25\nHarpoon                  $25\nStratego                 $30 (Accolade version, authorized by Milton Bradley)\nOne-on-One (Dr. J\/Bird)  $15 (Original version, 68000 machines only)\nMacFoxes                 $25 (Adult game)\nStrip Poker & Blackjack  $25 (Adult game)\n\n-Justin (jslauson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n \"If builders built buildings like I write programs, then the first woodpecker\n                 that came along would destroy civilization.\"","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nYup.\n\nMost JPEG viewers seem to require specific video drivers since they support\nonly specific video cards. Some have the standard IBM BIOS video support for\nthe VGA 320x200 256 colour mode, but they leave out the other cards such as\nthe Hercules monochrome card (which by the way can give very good picture\nquality if your dithering works right).\n\nI can't remember the name of a JPEG viewer since I usually convert JPEG's to\nGIF's before viewing them. But some require VESA driver for the video cards.\nYou don't need any special hardware to view JPEG's except perhaps for a VGA\ncard and maybe a 286+ processor. Most people these days program for 286+\ncomputers and neglect the rest of the 86 processors (8086, 8088). I have a\n8088 clone (a NEC V20 processor) and a Hercules card, I have had to write\nsome programs so that they will view GIF's and animations for the VGA and other\ncolour graphics boards on my monochrome Hercules card. I use Floyd-Steinberg\ndithers and have found that if one does something neat with the colour palette\nthe resulting dithered image gives much greater detail than it normally would\nwhen viewed on other monochrome systems. CompuShow 8.50 has FS dithering but\nit does the standard thing with the image palette before dithering, my way\ngives a brighter more detailed image.\n\nAnyway, enough of my rambling in the wrong direction. The final point is, as\nfar as I know, you don't need extra hardware to view JPEG's other than the\nVGA (and perhaps a 286 or better)\n\nHave a day!","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n[text deleted] \n[text deleted]\n\nThank you very much Paul.  I have always been impressed by the very human-ness of\nMary.  That God chose a woman, like me, to bring into this world the incarnation\nof Himself proves to me that this God is MY God. He reaches down from His\nperfection to touch me. Ah, the wonder of it all :-)\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I recently came across this article which I found interesting. I have \nposted it to hear what other people feel about the issue.\n\nI realise it is rather long (12 pages in Wordperfect) by may well be worth \nthe read.\n\nExcept for the first page (which I typed) the rest was scanned inusing \nOmnipage. Some of the f's have come out as t's and visa-versa. I have tried \nto correct as much as possible.\n\n\nABOUT THE AUTHOR\n\nPeter Hammond is the founder of Frontline Fellowship, a\nmissionary organisation witnessing to the communist countries in\nSouthern Africa. He has also made several visits to many East\nEuropean countries.\n\nFRONTLINE FELLOWSHIP NEWS                          ISSN 1018-144X\n\nPRAYING FOR JUSTICE\n(by Peter Hammond)\n\nTo those involved in ministering to Christians suffering\npersecution the imprecatory Psalms are a tremendous source of\ncomfort. And those of us who are fighting for the right to life\nof the preborn, or battling social evils such as pornography or\ncrime, are beginning to appreciate what an important weapon God\nhas entrusted to us in the imprecatory Psalms.\n\n\nTHE IMPRECATORY PSALMS\n\nEarly in my Christian walk I encountered the prayers for\njudgement in the Psalms and was quite at loss to know how to\nrespond to them. Prayers such as:\n\"Break the arm of the wicked and evil men; call him to account for\nhis wickedness ...\" Psalm 10:15 did not seem consistent with the\ngospel of love which I had accepted. Yet Psalm 10:15 was clearly\nmotivated by love for God (\"The Lord is King for ever and ever;\nthe nation will perish from His land\" 10:16, and \"Why does the\nwicked man revile God? 10:13), and by love for the innocent who\nsuffer (\"You hear, O Lord, the desire of the afflicted; You\nencourage them, and You listen to their cry, defending the\nfatherless and oppressed, in order that man, who is of the earth,\nmay terrify no more.\" 10:17-18)\n\nNevertheless, I grew increasingly uncomfortable reading such\ngraphic prayers for God to judge the wicked as: \"Pour out your\nwrath on them; let Your fierce anger overtake them\" 64:24; \"O\nLord, the God avenges, O God who avenges, shine forth. Rise up, O\nJudge of the earth, pay back to the proud what they deserve.\"\n95:1-2; \"Break the teeth in their mouths, O God; ...let them\nvanish like water .. let their arrows be blunted ... The\nrighteous will be glad when they are avenged, when they bathe\ntheir feet in the blood of the wicked. Then men will way, \"Surely\nthe righteous still are rewarded; surely there is a God who\njudges the earth.'\" 58:6-11\n\nCertainly I wanted God to be honoured and yes I was deeply\ndestressed by the prevalence of evil -  but could I actually pray\nfor God to \"pour out His wrath\" on the wicked?\n\nThe scripture make it clear that these prayers are not to be\nprayed for own selfish motives, nor against our personal enemies.\nRather they are to be prayed in Christ, for His glory and against\nHis enemies. The psalmist describes the targets of these\nimprecation as: those who devise injustice in their heart and\nwhose hands mete out violence (58:2) those who \"boast of evil\"\nand \"are a disgrace in the eyes of God. Your tongue plots\ndestruction, it is like a sharpened razor, and you who practise\ndeceit. You love evil rather than good, falsehood rather than\nspeaking the truth.\" 52:1-3; \"They crush your people ... They\nslay the widow and the alien; they murder the fatherless.\" 94:5-\n6; \"With cunning they conspire against Your people; they plot\nagainst those You cherish.\" 83:3; \"You hate all who do wrong. You\ndestroy those who tell lies; bloodthirsty and deceitful men the\nLord abhors.\" 5:5-6.\n\nTo those unrepentant enemies of God the psalmist declares:\n\"Surely God will bring you down to everlasting ruin\" 52:5;\n\"Surely God will crush the heads of His enemies ... of those who\ngo on in their sins\" 68:21.\n\nAnd the purpose of these prayers for justice is declared: \"Then\nit will be known to the ends of the earth that God rules ...\"\n59:13; \"to proclaim the powers of God\" 68:34; \"All kings will bow\ndown to Him and all nations will serve Him \" 72:11; \"Who knows\nthe power of Your anger? For Your wrath is as great as the fear\nthat is due You. \" 90:11\n\nYet despite the fact that 90 of the 150 Psalms include\nimprecations (prayers invoking God's righteous judgement upon the\nwicked) such prayers are rare in the average Western church.\nHowever, amongst the persecuted churches these prayers are much\nmore common.\n\n\nPRAYING AGAINST THE PERSECUTORS\n\nAmidst the burnt out churches and devastation of Marxist Angola I\nfound the survivors of communist persecution including the\ncrippled and maimed, and widows and orphans praying for God to\nstrike down the wicked and remove the persecutors of the Church.\nI was shocked - yet it was Biblical (Even the martyrs in heaven\npray \"How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge\nthe inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?\" Revelation\n6:10).\n\nThe initiator of the communist persecution in Angola was Agestino\nNeto. Described as a \"drunken, psychotic, marxist poet\", Neto had\nbeen installed by Cuban troops as the first dictator of Angola.\nHe boasted that: \"Within 20 years there won't be a Bible or a\nchurch left in Angola. I will have eradicated Christianity.\" Yet\ndespite the vicious wave of church burning and massacres it is\nnot Christianity that was eradicated in Angola but Agestino Neto.\nNeto died in mysterious circumstances on an operating table in\nMoscow.\n\nIn Romania I learnt of a series of remarkable incidents recorded\nof God judging the persecutors of the Church in answer to prayer:\n  *  A communist official ordered a certain pastor to be\n     arrested. the next day the official died of a heart attack.\n  *  Another communist party official ordered that all the Bibles\n     in his district were to be collected and pulped, to be\n     turned into toilet paper. This blasphemous project was in\n     fact carried out. But the next day when the official was\n     medically examined, he was informed that he had terminal\n     cancer. He died shortly afterwards.\n  *  On another occasion, a communist official who had ordered a\n     Baptist church to be demolished by bulldozers died in a car\n     crash the very next day.\n  *  When an order was given to dismantle a place of worship on\n     the mountainside in a forest, the workmen flatly refused to\n     carry out the order. At gunpoint a group of conscripted\n     gypsies also refused to touch the church. In desperation,\n     the communist police forced prisoners at bayonet-point to\n     dismantle the structure. Yet the officer in charge pleaded\n     with the local Christians to pray for him, that God would\n     not judge him. He emphasised that he had nothing against\n     Christians and was only obeying strict orders. The building\n     was in fact reconstructed later, and again used for worship.\n     \"They were all seized with Sear and the Name of the Lord\n     Jesus was held in high honour... in this way the Word of the\n     Lord spread widely and grew in power. \" Acts 19:17,20\n\nNicolae Ceaucescu the dictator who ordered much of the\npersecution in Romania was overthrown by his own army and\nexecuted on Christmas day, 1989, to joyous shouts of \"the\nantiChrist is dead\" in the streets. Many testified that this was\nin answer to the fervent prayers of the long suffering people of\nRomania.\n\nAnother persecutor of the Church who challenged God was Samora\nMachel, the first dictator of Marxist Mozambique. Samora Machel\nwas a cannibal who ate human flesh in witchcraft ceremonies in\nthe 1960's. He pledged his soul to Satan and vowed that he would\ndestroy the Church and turn Mozambique into the first truly\nMarxist-Leninist state in Africa. Thousands of churches in\nMozambique were closed confiscated, \"nationalised\" chained and\npadlocked, burnt down or boarded up. Missionaries were expelled,\nsome being imprisoned first. Evangelism was forbidden. Bibles\nwere ceremonially burnt and tens of thousands of Christians,\nincluding many pastors and elders, were shipped off to\nconcentration camps - most were never seen again.\n\nA month before his sudden death Samora Machel cursed God publicly\nand challenged Him to prove His existence by striking him\n(Machel) dead. On 19 October 1986, while several churches were\nspecifically praying for God to stop the persecution in\nMozambique, Machel's Soviet Tupelov aircraft crashed in a violent\nthunderstorm. The plane crashed 200 metres within South Africa's\nboundary with Mozambique. Amidst the wreckage the marxist plans\nfor overthrowing the government of Malawi were discovered and\npublished. Not only had God judged a blasphemer and a persecutor,\nbut He had also saved a country from persecution.\n\nIn the months leading up to the first multi-party elections in\nZambia many churches fasted and prayed tor God to remove the 27\nyear socialist dictatorship of Kenneth Kaunda. This was done on\n31st October 1991 when Fredrick Chiluba (a man converted to\nChrist whilst imprisoned for opposing Kaunda) was elected\npresident of Zambia and covenanted to make Zambia a Christian\ncountry.\n\nIt is recorded in history that the wicked Mary, Queen of Scots,\ndeclared trembling and in tears: \"I am more afraid of John Knox's\nprayers than of an army of ten thousand\".\n\nOn 3 April 1993 the Secretary General of the South African\nCommunist Party Chris Hani was shot dead. From the unprecedented\ninternational wave of condolences and adulation reported one\ncould be forgiven for assuming that this man was a saint and a\nmartyr. Certainly it was not the death and resurrection of Christ\nJesus which dominated the thoughts and headlines of South Africa\nthis Easter, but the assassination of Chris Hani.\n\nThe stunning hypocrisy of the situation is that 20 135 people\nwere murdered in South Africa in 1992, yet more collective\nconcern and anguish were reported over the death of the head of\nthe SA Communist Party than for all the thousands of other\nvictims. Indeed the SA government, the international community\nand the mass media have apparently had greater sorrow reported\nover this one death than for all the 50 000 South Africans\nmurdered since 2nd February 1990 when the ANC, SACP and PAC were\nunbanned!\n\nYet as a member of the ANC Revolutionary Council since 1973,\nDeputy Commander of Umkhonto we Sizwe (MK) the ANC's \"military\nwing\" - from 1982, and Chief of Staff of MK from 1987, Chris Hani\nhad approved and ordered bombings and assassinations of many\nunarmed civilians. As Jesus warned: \"all who live by the sword\nwill die by the sword \" Matt 26:52.\n\nAfter personally confronting Hani about his terrorist activities\nat a press conference in Washington DC (where he publicly\ndeclared his support for Fidel Castro, Col. Gaddafi, Yasser\nArafat and Saddam Hussein and defended the placing of car bombs\nand limpet mines in public places during \"the struggle\") I told\nhim that I was a Christian and, while I didn't hate him, I did\nhate communism and I was praying for him - that God would either\nbring him to repentance and salvation in Christ, or that God\nwould remove him. He responded by swearing and declaring that he\nwas an atheist.\n\nSeveral other people also prayed that God would either bring Hani\nto repentance or remove him. Similarly several churches in\nAmerica have begun to pray the imprecatory Psalms against\nunrepentant abortionists. In one town 8 abortionists were struck\ndown, with heart attacks, strokes, car accidents and cancer,\nwithin months of these public prayers for God to stop these\nkillers of preborn babies.\n\nSome praised God for His righteous acts of judgement and quoted:\n\"When justice is done, it brings joy to the righteous and terror\nto evildoers \" Proverbs 21:15. Others were shocked that any\nChristian could express satisfaction at the misfortune of any -\neven of the blatantly wicked. Yet the Apostles prayed imprecatory\nprayers (Acts 13:8-12; Galatians 1:8-9; 2 Tim 4:14-15) and so did\nour Lord (Matt 11:20-24).\n\nWhat then should our attitude towards the imprecatory Psalms be?\nShould we be praying the Psalms? To tackle these thorny issues I\nwould like to present a short summary of an excellent book, \"War\nPsalms of the Prince of Peace - Lessons From The Imprecatory\nPsalms\" by James E Adams, (published by the Presbyterian and\nReformed Publishing Company):\n\nOur Lord Jesus Christ & His apostles used the Psalms constantly\nin teaching men to know God. The New Testament (NT) quotes the\nOld Testament (OT) over 283 times. 41% of all OT quotes in the NT\nare from the Psalms. Christ Himself alluded to the Psalms over 50\ntimes. The Psalms are the Prayer Book of the Bible.\n\n\n1. Are the imprecatory Psalms the oracles of God?\n\nSome Christian commentators & theologians reject these Psalms as\n\"devilish\", \"diabolical \", \"unsuited to the church\", and \"Not God\n's pronouncements of His wrath on the wicked; but the prayers of\na man for vengeance on his enemies, just the opposite of Jesus'\nteaching that we should love our enemies. \"\n\nYet 2 Tim 3:16-17 declares:\n\"All Scripture is God breathed and is useful for teaching,\nrebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the\nman of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. \"\n(see also 2 Peter 3:15-16).\n\nThe fact that something in the Word of God is beyond our\ncomprehension is not grounds to denying or even questioning its\ninspiration. To make ourselves the judge of what is good or evil\nis to impudently take the place of God.\n\nDo we imagine ourselves to be holier than God? Wrong ideas of God\nhave led many to become \"evangelic plastic surgeons who have made\nit their job to \"clean up\" God's Word according to their own\nideas of what is proper. They have forgotten that it is God alone\nwho must determine what Christianity is and what is suitable for\nHis Church. The essence of what many have done is to question the\nauthority of God's Word (like Eve's original sin of listening to\nSatan's question \"Yes, hath God said... ?\").\n\nThe Psalms are part of God's revelation of Himself and His\nattributes, and they are reaffirmed by the NT as the\nauthoritative Word of God. Those imprecatory Psalms which these\nevangelical plastic surgeons reject as \"unsuited\" and \"unworthy\"\nfor the Church are the very Psalms Christ used to testify about\nHimself (eg: Mark 12:36; Matt 22:43-44) and which the Apostles\nused as authoritative Scripture (eg: Acts 1:16-20; Acts 4:25; Heb\n4:7). See also: 2 Samuel 23:1-2.\n\nCH Spurgeon said concerning the imprecatory Psalms, (especially\nPs 109):\n\"Truly this is one of the hard places of Scripture, a passage\nwhich the soul trembles to read, yet it is not ours to sit in\njudgement upon it, but to bow our ear to what the Lord would\nspeak to us therein. \"\n\nThe rejection of any part of God's Word is a rejection of the\ngiver of that Word, God Himself.\n\n\n2. Who is praying these Psalms?\n\nChrist quoted the Psalms not merely as prophesy; He actually\nspoke the Psalms as His own words. The Psalms occupied an\nenormous place in the life of our Lord. He used it as His prayer\nbook and song book - from the Synagogue to the festivals and at\nthe Last Supper.\n\nOn the cross Christ quoted from the Psalms - not as some ancient\nauthority that He adapted for His own use, but as His very own\nwords - the words of the Lord's Anointed - which as David's Son\nHe truly was.\n\"Father, into your hands I commit my Spirit\" Ps 31:5\n\"My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?\" Ps 22:1\n\nIn His ministry Christ foretells what He will say as the Judge on\nthe day of judgement, and He quotes the Psalms in doing so!\nMatt 7:23 \"Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away\nfrom me, you evildoers'. \" Ps 6:8\n\nIn Heb 10:5 the apostle attributes Ps 40:6-8 directly to Christ\nalthough nowhere in the Gospels is Christ recorded as having said\nthese words. Similarly Hebrews 2 : 12 attributes Ps 22:22\ndirectly to Christ despite there being no record of His having\nspoken these words while on earth. Clearly the apostles believed\nChrist is speaking in the Psalms.\n\nChrist came to establish His kingdom and to extend His mercy in\nall the earth. But let us never forget that Jesus will come again\nto execute Judgement on the wicked.\nDavid as the anointed king of the chosen people of God was a\nprototype of Jesus Christ. Acts 2:30:\n\"being therefore a prophet, ... he foresaw and spoke of the\nresurrection of Christ. \"\nDavid was a witness to Christ in his office, in his lite, and in\nhis words. The same words which David spoke, the future Messiah\nspoke through him. The prayers of David were prayed also by\nChrist. Or better Christ Himself prayed these Psalms through His\nforerunner David.\n\nThe imprecatory Psalms are expressions of the infinite justice of\nGod, of His indignation against wrong doing, and His compassion\nfor the wronged.\n\n\n3. But what about the Psalms of repentance?\n\nChrist is also the Lamb of God, the substitutionary sacrifice for\nour sins. Christ in the day of His crucifixion was charged with\nthe sin of His people. He appropriated to Himself those debts for\nwhich He had made Himself responsible. Our Lord was the\nsubstitution for the sinner. He took the sinners place (Isaiah\n53).\n\n\"God made Him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in Him we\nmight become the righteousness of God. \" 2 Cor 5:21\n\nIn history the Psalms, especially the imprecatory Psalms, have\nbeen understood to have been the prayers of Christ by: St\nAugustine, Jerome, Ambrose, Tertullian, Luther and many others.\nAll the Psalms are the voice of Christ. Christ is praying the\nimprecatory Psalms! All the Psalms are messianic. It is the Lord\nJesus Christ who is praying these prayers of vengeance. It is\nonly right for the righteous King of Peace to ask God to destroy\nHis enemies.\n\nThese prayers signal an alarm to all who are still enemies of\nKing Jesus. His prayers will be answered! God's Word is revealed\nupon all who oppose Christ. Anyone who rejects God's way of\nforgiveness in the cross of Christ will bear the dreadful curses\nof God.\n\nHe who prays Psalm 69:23-28 will one day make this prayer a\nreality when He declares to those on His left:\n\"Depart from me you who are cursed into the eternal fire prepared\nfor the devil and his angels. \" Matt 25:41\n\nAll the enemies of the Lord need to hear these Psalms. *God's\nKingdom is at War.* The powers of evil will tall and God alone\nwill reign forever!\n\"With justice He judges and makes war...out of His mouth comes a\nsharp sword with which to strike down the nations. He will rule\nthem with an iron sceptre; He treads the winepress of the fury of\nthe wrath of God Almighty...King of Kings and Lord of Lords. \"\nRev 19 : 15\n\n\n4. Are Jesus' prayers contradictory?\n\nWhat about Jesus' command to love our enemies and to bless those\nwho curse us (Matt 5:44)?\n\nChrist is of course the loving and merciful Saviour who forgives\nsin; but He is also the awesome Judge who is coming in Judgement\non those who disobey His Gospel.\n\n\"God is just. He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you\nand give relief to you who are troubled...This will happen when\nthe Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with His\npowerful angels. He will punish those who do not obey the Gospel\nof our Lord Jesus. They will be punished with everlasting\ndestruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from\nthe majesty of His power on the day He comes to be glorified in\nHis holy people and to be marvelled at among au those who have\nbelieved. \" 2 Thess 1:6-10\n\nJesus has power on earth to forgive sins, and He has power on\nearth to execute judgement upon His enemies. In the Psalms we see\nboth the vengeance and the love ot God.\n\nEven in the N.T. & in the Gospels we see imprecations.\n\"Woe to you,...hypocrites...blind guides...blind fools...full of\ngreed and self indulgence...whitewashed tombs...you snakes! You\nbrood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to Hell ? \"\nMatt 23\n\nIn Matt 26:23-24 Christ quotes from Ps 69 and 109 to refer to His\nbetrayal by Judas.\n\nWe also need to acknowledge that Christ's prayers of blessing are\nnot for all. In John 17:6-9 it is clear that Christ is only\npraying to the elect of God - those who have:\n\"obeyed your Word\"... \"accepted\" God's Word ... and have\n\"believed \". (see Luke 10:8-16 - Those who reject the\nmessage of God's kingdom will be judged.)\n\n\n5. May we pray the imprecatory Psalms?\n\nMartin Luther pointed out that when one prays: \"Hallowed be Thy\nName, Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done \" then \"he must put all\nthe opposition to this in one pile and say: 'Curses, maledictions\nand disgrace upon every other name and every other kingdom. May\nthey be ruined and torn apart and may all their schemes and\nwisdom and plans run aground' . \"\n\nTo pray tor the extension of God's kingdom is to solicit the\ndestruction of all other kingdoms, eg: Dan 2:44: \"The God of\nheaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed ... it\nwill crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it\nwill itself endure forever. \"\n\n* Advance and victory for the Church means defeat and retreat for\nthe kingdom of darkness. *\n\nThere is a life & death struggle between two kingdoms. The Church\ncannot exclude hatred tor satan's kingdom from its love for God's\nkingdom. God's kingdom cannot come without satan's kingdom being\ndestroyed. God's will cannot be done on earth without the\ndestruction of evil. The glory of God demands the destruction of\nevil. Instead of being influenced by a sickly sentimentalism\nwhich insists upon the assumed, but really non-existent, rights\nof man - we should focus instead upon the rights of God.\n\nNote Psalm 83 where the Psalmist prays against those who \"plot\ntogether\" against God and His people:\n\"Cover their faces with shame so that men will seek your Name O\nLord... Do to them as You did to Midian, as you did to Sisera and\nJabin at the river Kishon, who perished at Endor and became like\nrefuse on the ground. \"\n\nThe story of Sisera in the book of Judges (Chapter 4 and 5)\nprovides a vivid example of God's judgement on the wicked. Sisera\n\"cruelly oppressed the Israelites for twenty years\" and they\n\"cried to the Lord for help\" Judges 4:3. In response to those\nprayers: \"The Lord routed Sisera and all his chariots and army by\nthe sword, and Sisera abandoned his chariot and fled on foot...\nAll the troops of Sisera fell by the sword; not a man was left. \"\nJudges 4:15-16\n\nThe account then goes on to describe how Sisera escaped to the\ntent of Jael where she lulled him into a false sense of safety\nand then drove a tent peg through his temple with a hammer. The\nsong of victory by Deborah and Barak celebrated the crushing of\nthe head of Sisera in graphic detail (Judges 5:25-27). And it is\nthis that Psalm 83 implores God to again do to His enemies.. \"As\nyou did to Sisera ...\"\n\n\n6. The blessings of obedience and the curse of disobedience\n\nThe imprecatory Psalms are fully consistent with the Law of God:\n     \"If you do not carefully follow all the words of this Law,\n     which are written in this book, and do not revere this\n     glorious and awesome Name - the Lord your God - the Lord\n     will send fearful plagues on you and your descendants. He\n     will bring upon you all the diseases of Egypt that you\n     dreaded, and they will cling to you. The Lord will also\n     bring on you every kind of sickness and disaster not\n     recorded in this Book of the Law until you are\n     destroyed...because you did not obey the Lord your God ...\n     so it will please Him to ruin and destroy you. You will be\n     uprooted from the land you are entering to possess. \"\n     Deuteronomy 28:58-63\n\nThe covenant God made with His people included curses for\ndisobedience as well as blessings for obedience. Deuteronomy 27\nrecords the formal giving and receiving of the covenant terms in\nan awesome account:\n\"The Levites shall recite to all the people of Israel in a loud\nvoice:\n\"Cursed is the man who carves an image or casts an idol - a thing\ndetestable to the Lord, the work of the craftsman's hands - and\nsets it up in secret. \"\nThen all the people shall say, \"Amen!\" \"\n\"Cursed is the man who dishonours his father or his mother...\n\"Cursed is the man who moves his neighbour's boundary stone...\n\"Cursed is the man who leads the blind astray on the roads...\n\"Cursed is the man who withholds justice from the alien, the\nfatherless or the widow...\n\"Cursed is the man who kills his neighbour secretly...\n\"Cursed is the man who accepts a bribe to kill an innocent\nperson.\n\"Cursed is the man who does not uphold the words of the Law by\ncarrying them out.\nThen all the people shall say, \"Amen!\" \" Deut 27:14-26\n\nThe New Testament confirms that the inevitable consequence of\nrejecting Christ is the curse. \"If anyone does not love the\nLord - a curse be on him. \" 1 Corinthians 16:22\n\n(See also: Romans 12:19-21; Hebrews 1:1-3; 3:7-12; 3:1519; 10:26-\n31; 12:14-29.)\n\n\n7. How can we preach these prayers?\n\nThe Church of Jesus Christ is an army under orders.\nScripture constitutes the official dispatch from the Commander-\nin-Chief. But we have a problem: those who are called to pass on\nthose orders to others are refusing to do so. How then can we\nexpect to be a united, effective army? Is it any wonder that the\ntroops have lost sight of their commission to demolish the\nstrongholds of the kingdom of darkness? If the Church does not\nhear the battle cries of her Captain, how will she follow Him\nonto the battlefield?\n\nPastors are commissioned to pass on the orders of the Church's\nCommander, never withholding or changing His words. One whose job\nis to carry dispatches to troops in wartime would face certain\nand severe punishment if he dared to amend the general's orders.\nThe pastor's charge is of greater importance than that of a\ncourier in any earthly army. There's no place tor the dispatcher\nto decide he doesn't agree with his Commander's strategy.\n\nWhen Jesus Christ sent seventy-two disciples on a preaching\nmission, He told them to proclaim the coming of God's Kingdom (Lk\n10:9) - that is, to announce that people must submit to God's\nrule in their lives. Jesus instructed them to pray for peace on\nany house they approach, assuring them that if anyone rejected\nit, the peace would return on the disciples (verse 5). But we\nmust consider what He said they should do if their message were\nrejected - that is, if the hearers persisted in rebellion against\nGod's rule - \"But when you enter a town and are not welcomed, go\ninto its 'streets and say, 'Even the dust of your town that\nsticks to our feet we wipe off against you. Yet be sure of this:\nThe kingdom of God is near\"' Luke 10:11.\n\nWhat would be the result of that denunciation? I tell you, it\nwill be more bearable on that day for Sodom [on which God sent\nfire from Heaven in judgement for its wickedness] than for that\ntown (verse 12). Immediately Jesus added curses on Korazin,\nBethsaida, and Capernaum tor their rejection of His message\n(verses 13-15). He then explained to the disciples the great\nauthority He had given them: \"He who listens to you listens to\nMe; he who rejects you rejects Me; but he who rejects Me rejects\nhim who sent Me \" (verse 16). This is the fundamental basis tor\ncalling down God's curses on anyone: his persistent rebellion\nagainst God's authority expressed in His Law and the ministry of\nHis servants.\n\nWe need to clearly and forcefully proclaim the war cries of the\nPrince of Peace. Only then will the Church awake from its\nlethargy and once again enter the battle. If we tail to pass on\nthe battle cry then a lack of urgency and confusion in the ranks\nwill be inevitable.\n\nLike Psalm 1 our preaching needs to clearly show the blessings of\nobedience and the curse of disobedience. The eternal truth is\nthat God cannot be mocked. Whatever a man sows - that shall he\nreap (Galatians 6:7). The curses pronounced on disobedience in\nDeut 28:47-53 were fulfilled in detail in Samaria (2 Kings\n6:2&29) and in Judea (AD 70). The wrath of God upon covenant\nbreakers is real.\n\nThe \"I\" of the Psalms is Jesus Christ. The \"we\" of the Psalms\nincludes those of us in the Lord Jesus. The enemies are not our\nown, individually, but those of the Lord and of His Church. The\nPsalms are ot Christ as Prophet, Priest, and King. They record\nChrist's march in victory against the kingdom of darkness. As\nChrist is the author of the Psalms, so, too, is He the final\nfulfilment of the covenant on which they are based. God will\nanswer the psalmist's prayers completely in Jesus Christ on the\nfinal day of judgment. While on earth Jesus foretold the day when\nHe will say: \"But those enemies of Mine who did not want Me to be\nKing over them - bring them here and kill them in front of Me\"\nLuke 19:27.\n\nA fatal end awaits everyone who refuses to acknowledge and to\nobey Jesus as King and Lord. Hearing expositions of these war\npsalms of the Prince of Peace will remind His people that God's\nkingdom is at war! The kingdom of darkness is being overcome by\nthe kingdom of Jesus Christ, a war in which each local\ncongregation of believers plays a vital part. You must rally your\nbattalion to put on the whole armour of God, including \"the sword\nof the Spirit, which is the Word of God \" Eph 6:17. That battle-\nreadiness also involves \"pray(ing) in the Spirit on all occasions\nwith all kinds of prayers and requests n Eph 6:18.\n\nChrist teaches His army to pray for the utter destruction of the\nenemies of God as the psalmist did: \"Pour out Your wrath on the\nnations that do not acknowledge You, on the kingdoms that do not\ncall on Your Name\" Ps 79:6.\n\nTo deal with the very real hurts and injustices in this world it\nis necessary for us to pray for God's justice. Those who are\npersecuted need the comfort of these prayers.\n\n\"Let the saints rejoice in His honour and sing for joy...May the\npraise of God be in their mouths and a double-edged sword in\ntheir hands, to inflict vengeance on the nations and punishment\non the peoples, to bind their kings with fetters, their nobles\nwith shackles of iron, to carry out the sentences written against\nthem. This is the glory of all His saints. Praise the Lord. \" Ps\n149:5-9\n\nPrayer is, in fact, spiritual warfare. One weapon is prayer for\nconversion of spiritual enemies; another is prayer for judgement\non those who finally refuse to be converted. We handicap the army\nof God when we refuse to use both of these great weapons that He\nhas given us. It is at all times a part of the task of the people\nnf God to destroy evil.\n\nIf you have been guilty of dulling your sword, by neglecting or\nundermining these psalms, repent of that sin, sharpen your sword\nanew, and go forth to do battle in the Name and for the Glory of\nJesus - until \"the knowledge of the Lord will cover the earth as\nthe waters cover the sea\" Hab 2:14.\n\nThe full book \"War Psalms of the Prince of Peace \" is available,\nat R25, from Frontline Fellowship, PO Box 74 Newlands, 7725 RSA.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":": >:\tI'd really like to see such a thing developed so that interactive\n: >:internet talk radio could be done. Ideally, though, it should be a general\n: >:purpose device. It should be a general purpose enough device that nobody\n: >:should be able to balk at its widespread use. Obviously, to make it easy\n: >:for homebrewers, it should use pretty common hardware.\n: \n:      Why don't we move down even further toward the masses by setting this\n: up on an IBM PC clone(probably needs to be a 386 or a 486) with a \n: sound blaster and a V.32bis modem.  Those components are very widely\n\n\tI concur for a PC to PC version.  BUT for a interactive thing like\ninternet talk radio?!?!  It makes me cringe at the amount of hogging such\na thing would do to the bandwidth of the internet.  I mean 15 meg files getting\nfloated around for internet talk radio is bad enough.  I have a solution; use\nthe phone system; take your electronics and use them on point to point \nconversations through the phone and thats it.  If you need to tell someone \nsomething secret and very important wouldn't it make more sense to write it \nout concisely? And if it's just a quick \"YO\" then use a code word and spend \nyour twenty cents.\n\tThose good ol analog systems like Shortwave, Telephones, and TV's have\na use don't gunk up a nice digital packet network trying to emulate them!","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nBut aren't you imposing your moral standards against gay people because\nyou do not want to rent to, or hire, or as you put associate with, (\nand I do not know of a law that requires you to associate with gay\npeople)?  It works both ways.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Newsgroup: sci.electronics\nFrom: martin.vuille@synapse.org\nSubject: Electronic Design\n\nDoes anyone know the telephone number for the circulation department\nof 'Electronic Design' magazine?\n\nMV","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I would like to prevent our Windows users from using\nctl-alt-del from within windows. I know there must be\na way to do it.\nCould anyone point me in the right direction?\nThanks in advance,\nMike Glynn\nmike.glynn@business.gatech.edu","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Does anyone here know anything about chelation therapy using EDTA?  My\nuncle has emphesema, and a doctor wants to try it on him.  We are\nwondering if:\n\n1.  Is there any evidence EDTA chelation therapy is beneficial for his\ncondition, or any condition?\n\n2.  What possible side effects are there.  How can they be mimimized?\n\nPlease respond via e-mail to    rme1@cornell.edu","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nThe Catholic church has an entirely different view of Mary than do \n\"most\" other Christian churches (those with parallel beliefs\nnotwithstanding).  Christ, by most accounts, is the only sinless\nperson to ever live.  I too, have trouble with a sinless Mary\nconcept just. \nAs for the related issue of the \"original\" sin - only Adam and\nEve will answer for that one.  My children do not answer for my sins,\ncertainly I only answer for mine.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"     Really now.  Why is this the pot calling the kettle black?  I am stating\nthat a person who shows a continually biased opinion is close-minded and that\nhis opinion should be ignored.  Clayton is stating that a group of at least\ntwo million (1%) American citizens are evil vicious malicious child-molesters.\n\n     Here's a hypothetical question...  If Clayton said something like \"all\nthose niggers are really stupid.\"  (Please don't be offended, I'm not racist\nbut merely using an example of Clayton's malign logic).  And then said he\nread a report that a lot of blacks in inner cities dropped out of school, I\nbet he wouldn't have your support.  Yet he can claim that all homosexuals are\ndishonest, evil, lying child molesters without *PERSONALLY* having a single\nhomosexual friend or acquaintance and you'll sit there and support him.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"*** On 04-21-93  04:50, R.x. Getter had the unmitigated gall to say this:\n\n RG> This may be a dumb question, but I need to put a hard drive on my\n RG> father's PC\/XT, either MFM, RLL, or IDE. I know how to hook it up, but\n RG> how do I tell the computer the geometry of the drive. On my 386, you\n RG> set it in the BIOS, but I doubt that's how it's done on an XT. I\n\nMost XT IDE controllers are responsible for keeping track of the drive\ngeometry and getting the information to the computer.  The controller may\ncome with software to update its on-board BIOS, or may be designed to work\nwith a particular drive.  Seagate drives usually have special controllers\nfor use on XT's, and these are tailored to the drive.\n\nAlso, you cannot low-level format an IDE drive.  The low-level format is\nstored on specal magnetic areas on the disk surface called \"servos\" (not\nlike the electronic use of the term) that need a higher recording bias than\nthe drive's recording heads can generate.  Don't try to low-level format an\nIDE drive!\n\n... P.E.T.A. People for the Eating of Tasty Animals\n--- Blue Wave\/QWK v2.10\n                                                  ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Not that the question is anything important, but I am still curious:\nWhy is that almost all printed circuit boards are green? I have seen\na few blue ones, but no red, yellow, company logo etc. Is there a\ntechnical reason or could it be that the marketing \"geniuses\" have\nnot tought about it (yet)?","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nGant's ML record  Age 28 this season.\n\nYear   G   AB     BA   OBP   SLG   HR   SB  CS\n1987   21   83  .265  .271  .386    2    4   2\n1988  146  563  .259  .317  .439   19   19  10  <-- 3rd Base Expt. year\n1989   75  260  .177  .237  .335    9    9   6\n1990  152  575  .303  .357  .539   32   33  16\n1991  154  561  .251  .338  .496   32   34  15\n1992  153  544  .259  .321  .415   17   32  10\n\nIn the majors for parts of 6 seasons, total playing time\napprox 4.5 seasons.\n\nJust looking at his hitting record, he's had 2 seasons of OPS\ngreater than .800, which is pretty good for an OF.  His\n1988 season is pretty decent for a rookie 2B.  The move to\nthird base explains a lot of his 1989.  When he returned as an OF,\nhe began hitting again.  And of course, last year he slumped.\n\nBut no learning curve?  He has obviously improved his batting eye\nover the years, as well as his SB\/CS ratio.  As to his fielding,\nhe was an infielder when he was drafted, a 2Bman as he came\nup through the Braves system, and then the Braves put him through\n2 position changes in the space of a year.  He's an adequate OF,\nalthough not great, and at least some of your perception of his\nfielding is colored by watching him learn to play the OF at the\nML level.  (I know you're another long-term Braves fan :)\n\nAbout playing 3B...IMO, that's the 2nd most DIFFICULT position\nto field, after catcher.  At SS or 2B, you need more range and \nspeed, but at 3B, you've got to have quick reflexes and have \na GUN for an arm.  There are NO second chances at 3B, even when\nplaying sandlot softball!  Granted, I'd still put my best\noverall infielder at SS, but that's because he gets more\nchances, not because the job is harder.  It still amazes me\nthat so many teams have tried to convert other position players\nto 3B.  But maybe that's because the supply of \"natural\" 3B is\nscarce.\n\nFinally, Gant is a player who puts pressure on himself to\nperform well, and works hard to improve.  You don't get\nthose amazingly huge arms on that relatively small body without a\nlot of weight work.  Now, whether he's been overdoing it these\ndays may be a valid question, as is the question of whether\nhe tries too hard to make something happen during each at-bat.\nBut frankly, if a player is going to not live up to potential,\nI'd much rather they fail by trying too hard, than by not\ntrying hard enough.  You might be able to teach relaxation\nto an adult; but at that age I don't believe you can teach\nhustle.\n\nAll that said, I don't think I'd sign Gant to another long-term\ncontract.  He's 28 now, and I think he's free-agent eligible\nin 2 years, when he'll be 30.  Given his career curve and\nlimitations, I wouldn't expect him to last much past 35\nas a ML ballplayer.  He might surprise me here, but Atlanta's\ngot some talent on the farm, and I'd rather take my chances\ndown the road with Nieves et al.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\tAre 180 degree V-6 \"Flat-Six\" engines???","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nI think C.S. Lewis has argued that medieval people did not all think the\nworld is flat.\n\nHowever, this argument goes both ways. Pretend someone telling Plato that\nit is highly probable that people do not really have souls; their minds\nand their consciousness are just something their brains make up, and\ntheir brains (their body) is actually ahead of their mind even in \nvoluntarly actions. I don't think Plato would have been happy with this,\nand neither would Paul, although Paul's ideas were quite different.\nHowever, if you would _read_ what we discuss in this group, and not\njust preach, you would see that there currently is much evidence in\nfavour of these statements.\n\nThe same applies to the theory of natural selection, or other sacred\ncows of Christianity on our origins and human nature. I don't believe\nin spirits, devils or immortal souls any more than in gods.\n\n\nAh, you said it. You believe what you want to. This is what I had assumed\nall along. \n\n\nYou might be as well planting Satan's seeds, ever thought of this?\nBesides, you haven't yet explained why we must believe so blindly,\nwithout any guiding light at all (at least I haven't noticed it).\nI don't think this is at all fair play on god's part. \n\nYour argument sounds like a version of Pascal's Wager. Please read the\nFAQ, this fallacy is discussed there.\n\n\nAnd I failed to get help from the HS because I had a wrong attitude?\nSorry, Dan, but I do not think this spirit exists. People who claim to have\naccess to it just look badly deluded, not gifted. \n\nPetri\n\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nFord aimed for 75% US content when they designed the new Probe. In actual\npractice it came out to 77% US content. If my '89 is any example the 23%\nthat is imported may be the engine and brakes, at least the '89 had\nMissybitchy brakes.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"...\n\nThis is a common misconception, shared my many manufacturers, programmers,\nand users alike.  COM3, for example, is simply the third equipped COMM\nport, not necessarily the one with I\/O address 3E8.  The BIOS just\nsearches sequentially through a set of potential COMM port addresses.  The\nfirst equipped port it finds will become COM1, etc.  If you're playing by\nthe rules, you can't have a COM4 unless you have a COM3 equipped.  The set\nof \"standard\" (whatever that means) port addresses merely reflects the\norder in which the BIOS searches the I\/O address space in its search for\nserial ports.\n\nSo, what you have is indeed COM3 at the non-standard address 2E8.  Were\nthis address in the 4th table slot instead, programs which query the BIOS\nto determine the number of installed COMM ports would not find it, as the\nfield in the BIOS data area which contains this number would indicate that\nthere are but 3 COMM ports installed.  (Frankly, I don't know of a simgle\nprogram that would actually have a problem with this.)\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"[Frank's solution deleted.]\n\nIf you have access to telnet, contact nyx.cs.du.edu.  It's a public access\nUnix system, completly free, and all you need to for access is a verifiable\nform of ID (I think he requires a notarized copy of a picture, or a check, or\nsome such).","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"         Is it realistic for the government to try to keep the details\nof the encrytion algorithm secret if it intends to use evidence from\nwiretaps in court?  Won't defense attorneys attempt to obtain the\ndetails of the method if the prosecution attempts to present evidence\nfrom wiretaps in court?  Is it certain that such attempts will fail?\n                          James B. Shearer\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"You will keep in perfect peace him whose mind is steadfast, because he trusts\nin you. \nIsaiah 26:3\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"How do I get a subscription to MacWeek.  I want one, but I don't seem to be able\nto find a subscription card anywhere.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nYou can't customize a command line interface?  Where have you been?  I\ncan change the prompt, I can make aliases (so someone like me who is\nused to say, ls, can type it on my dos machine and still get a\ndirectory listing), and under Unix, if I don't like the command line\ninterface, I throw it out and get a different one. (csh, bash, ksh,\nsh, etc...)\n\n\nThis is true.\n\n\nA decent GUI for all variations of Unix? Lessee... what about Motif?\nOr the stuff from MIT? (twm comes to mind...) those are pretty\nstandard. Heck, an xwindows program runs like it likes to -- all the\nend user has to really know is how to manipulate the actual windows\nwith the mouse, and since it is a GUI, it's *graphical* and a bit\neasier to figure out. (Something the windows people have been pressing\ndown our throats for some time now...)\n\nThe thing I fear is that there will be a gap between the normal users\nrunning windows (all flavors) and the other \"power\" users running Unix\nand other more advanced OSes. At least right now, DOS is still pretty\nmuch king. I can bring a copy of my latest whiz-bang programming demo\nover to my friends house, and since we both run DOS, he can enjoy it\ntoo.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Hi Fellows,\n\nI have :\n        --------------------------------------------------------\n        36 pcs.  1x1-80  $102 + $5.00 for shipping. Total 107.00\n        --------------------------------------------------------\n\nIf interested, respond here or call 408\/942-9690 Fax 408\/942-9693\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Are there any graphics texts with examples\/demos\/projects directly in\nX?\n\nThe last time I taught the course, I used a popular graphics text that\nuses its own graphics package, with implementations available for\nX\/Mac\/PC.  The problem was that after the course the students were good\nat programming in the artificial package, but frustrated that they\ncouldn't really use their skill for other work.\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Dear Netters,\n\n     My friend have brought a S3801 card with 2Mb RAM. Is there any new driver \nfor the card available on ftp cites? What is the newest version? She is very \ninterest in have a driver for 1024x768 with HiColor and 800x600 true color.\nNo such driver come with the card.\n\nK.W.Mok","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nI speculate, from the MykoTronx data sheet on the MYK-78, that the algorithm \nis a classified cryptosystem, similar in application to DES but cleared by \nthe NSA for classified traffic, that has been in use for a number of years.  \nMyktotronx refers to it as \"Government Type II encryption\", which matches the \ndesignation of one of the types of encryption available on STU-III phones, \nand may be the same as a cryptosystem I have heard called \"CIPHER2\".\n\nThis would make sense, since this is evidently a field-proven cryptosystem \nwhich can act as a \"pin-compatible\" substitute for DES.  Combined with a \ntappable key exchange protocol, this would offer exactly what is claimed for \nClipper: secure encryption with access via a key escrow.  If this is fact the \ncase, it would make me quite confident of the encipherment algorithm itself.\n\nNow, I do not know if these are in fact the same cryptosystem; my knowledge \nof classified cryptography isn't even fuzzy :), it's nonexistent.  However, \nit would certainly have been the least-effort approach on the part of the \ngovernment: take an old military cipher that people can drop in place of DES \n(and which is at least as secure), set up a key escrow scheme for law \nenforcement, and promote it for public use.  This also fits with Mykotronx, \nwho's been around but almost invisible for years.\n\nHas anyone else made this sort of connection, or am I just hallucinating pink \nelephants here? :).  My curiousity has been piqued...\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n[ ... ]\n\n\n\n[ ... ]\n\n\nOne very interesting thing I notice about this is that the only use of\nthe chip key is to encode the session key for the law enforcement field.\nIt is not used at all by the encryption algorithm.\n\nIt seems like it would be possible to create a device that would be\notherwise compatible, but would send out a bogus law enforcement field.\nThis might render the device unusable with \"normal\" devices if there's\nsome sort of validation involving the law enforcement field, but it\ncould certainly be used with other such modified devices.\n\nOf course, this is irrelevant if the NSA has a backdoor in the\nalgorithm, but it does make it possible to defeat the key escrow system.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n  Damn.  And I did so have my hopes up.\n\n\n\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\ \n\nBob Beauchaine bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM \n\nThey said that Queens could stay, they blew the Bronx away,\nand sank Manhattan out at sea.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nThe above article is a good short summary of traditional Christian\nteaching concerning the death of Mary.  \nAlso very good is \"Re: Question about the Virgin Mary\" by Micheal D.\nWalker.  He tells the story very well.\nI would like to add that in the Eastern Orthodox Church we celebrate \"The\nDormition (or falling asleep) of the Theotokos (the mother of God)\".  The\nIcon for this day shows Mary lying on a bed surrounded by the Apostles\nwho are weeping.  Christ, in his resurrected glory, is there holding what\nseems to be a small child.  This is, in fact, Mary's soul already with\nChrist in Heaven.  The Assumption of Mary is one more confirmation for us\nas Christians that Christ did indeed conquer death.  It forshadows the\ngeneral resurrection on the last day.  The disciples were not surprised\nto find Mary's body missing from the grave.  She was the Mother of the\nSavior.  She was the first of all Christians.  She gave birth to the Word\nof God.  If it were not for her we would not be saved.  This is why we\npray in the Orthodox Church, \"Through the prayers of the Theotokos,\nSavior save us.\"","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Hi, I just test installed kanjitalk 6.07 on my IIci \nand got a black screen, a way sick looking mac icon, and when hitting the\nprogrammers reset, a tone sequence that I guess is the infamous \"tones of\ndeath.\" \nI was able to reboot off a floppy, removed the japanese system, and\nset up the system folder on the hard drive to get system 7.01 back.\nNow have no overt problems with the mac.\nAny idea what caused the tones?  I forget the numbers but 7fff comes to mind.\nIf it is some self diagnostic, why would an older system version catch it,\nand not 7. ?\n(I'll be moving up to 7.1 and worldscript by-and-by)\nThanks in advance,\nHiroki","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I own a Zoom V.32bis modem and I am having some strange problems, I\nwould like to contact the manufacturer.. but there is no address on the\nbox. Does any1 have their address? or telephone number?\n\nThanx,\nDon Smith","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nHas anyone, while driving a cage, ever waved at bikers? I get the urge,\nbut I've never actually done it.\n\nI've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV\n     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca\n                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Can anyone mail me the address of Houston's Mailing List?\nThanks in advance. \nJ. Scott Smithers\nsmithers@dcseq.uscga.edu\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"After seeing William Sessions on television, explaining the great lengths\nto which the FBI went to determine the suicidal tendancies of David Koresh, \nI got the very unpleasent feeling that Koresh had manipulated the FBI's \nperceptions much the way he manipulated his own followers.\n\nMaybe I was manipulated by the news story.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n: \tI was recently talking to a possible employer ( mine! :-) ) and he made a reference to a\n: 48-bit graphics computer\/image processing system.  I seem to remember it being called IMAGE or\n: something akin to that.  Anyway, he claimed it had 48-bit color + a 12-bit alpha channel.  That's\n: 60 bits of info--what could that possibly be for?  Specifically the 48-bit color?  That's 280\n: trillion colors, many more than the human eye can resolve.  Is this an anti-aliasing thing?  Or\n: is this just some magic number to make it work better with a certain processor.\n\n\n\tI'm pretty sure most industry strength image processing specific \nsystems (i.e. photo processing gear) use as much as 96 bits of color info.\nWhy? Why not, oversampling is never a bad idea especially if the\nhardware's only task is image manipulation, and profressional photographers\ndemand professional results.\n\n: \tAlso, to settle a bet with my roommate, what are SGI's flagship products?  I know of\n: Iris, Indigo, and Crimson, but what are the other ones, and which is their top-of-the-line?\n: (sadly, I have access to none of them.  Just a DEC 5000\/25.  Sigh.)\n\n\tStrange question, but anyway, there's the VGX line, the newer\nIndigo^2, and the Onyx systems are the new big boys on the block (you\ncan get a 24 processor system with twice the graphics performance of\na reality engine). There's more, but I don't have my handy \"periodic \ntable of sgi's\" on me...\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"   Would you like fries with that, sir?\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":" \n \n       The Brady Bill passed the House in 1992, but failed to reach a\nvote in the Senate.  As such, it never reached Bush.  (Sarah Brady's\ncondemnation not-withstanding).\n \n       It'll probably pass the House again, and will probably pass the\nSenate if they can get it to a vote.  Whether of not they'll be busy\nwith other things will be the question.  I don't expect gung-ho opposition\non the part of Senate Republicans, since they won't want to over-use their\nfillibuster trump card.\n ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"How difficult would it be to do a solar sail mission to say mercury?\n\nNot much has been there and there is a 23?KM\/s delta v to eat off.\n\ncould a  solar sail, handle say adiscovery bus, and drop it into\nmercury orbit,  good enough for rockets to put it into some\nform of polar orbit?","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nYes, they are nice ads, and even better: great prices.  But this is all on \nthe outside.  The consumer sees this and orders.  Little do they know, they \nwill get *POOR* service (very poor).  When I ordered a 105mb hard drive from \nTC about 6 months ago, I received it in the mail, installed it, and \ndiscovered it DIDN'T WORK!!!  I sent it back to them, and they said they'd \nsend me a refund check.  IT TOOK MANY, MANY, MANY phone calls and hate-mail, \nas well as threats of lawsuit to get back my $250.00!  In fact, it took TWO \nWHOLE MONTHS of calling and threatening!  Every time I'd call, I would be \nput on the run-around until I finally wound up on an answering machine.  I'd \nleave my name and phone #, but I didn't even get called back *ONCE*.  I AM \nONE PISSED OFF T.C. CUSTOMER, \tAND IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GET RIPPED OFF, OR \nIF YOU WANT DECENT SERVICE, DO NOT --I REPEAT-- DO NOT BUY FROM THIS \nCOMPANY.  THE MONEY SAVED IS NOT WORTH THE ULCERS YOU WILL GET.  PASS THIS \nWORD AROUND TO YOUR FRIENDS.  \t\tCompanies like this do not deserve \nto stay in business, so let's not give them out hard earned money.  \n\nDiscount Micro, Systems Powerhouse, and Gateway 2000 all have given me \nexcellent service and speed in the past.  I highly recommend them to anyone.\n\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nThere is a review of 3DO in the latest \"wired\" magazine.  You may just want\nto take a trip to the local bookstore and check it out (there's some cool pics\ntoo).\n\n(I haven't read it yet, or I'd tell you more.. :-)","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Greeting\n\nI am starting work on a project where I am trying to make strain gages\nbond to bone in vivo or a period of several months.  I am currently\nusing hydroxyapaptite back gages, and I have tried M-bonding the gages\nto the bone.  Apart from those two application methods there doesn't\nseem to be much else in the literature.  I have only an engineering \nbackground not medical or biological.  I would be interest in any\nideas about how to stimulte bone growth on the surface of cortical bone.\n\nThanks for oyur help in Advance.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nNice touch - using the word *seem*.\n-- \nDave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nThe green layer is a solder-mask, and is used to make a finished board\nlook neat, and to avoid solder bridges, especially when using wave\nsoldering (or any other mechanized approach). I've seen red mask,\nbut most that I've seen are green.\n\nA bakelite board will look brown in colour, and, if the solder mask\nis put on, looks like a brown board with green 'paint' on either side\n(or just one side) of the board.\nA fibreglass board will look green from the side, because the green\nsolder-mask makes the board appear that colour. If you got a fibreglass\nboard with no mask, it would be a whitish-grey colour.\nTeflon boards do exist, as well... but I'm not sure about that one.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"********* WANTED : Word Processing Typewriter ********\n\n    A friend is looking for a wordproccing electronic typewriter, preferably\nwith 40 char. display and spelling correction.\n\nSend info to the addresses below:   \n\nThanks,\n   -Steve","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"existance.  \n\n\n***************************************************************************\n\tI just thought it necessary to help defend the point that Jesus \nexisted.  Guys: Jesus existed.  If he didnt, then you have to say that \nSocrates didnt exist cuz he, like Jesus, has nothing from his hands that \nhave survived.  Only Plato and others record his existance.  Many others \nrecord Jesus' existance, including the Babylonian Talmud.  Sorry guys, the \nargument that Jesus may not have existed is a dead point now.  He did.  \nWhether he was God or whether there is a God is a completely different \nstory, however. \n*****************************************************************************\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nWhile it may mean that in 1993, the relevant meaning comes from 1789.\nMoreover, \"controlled\" doesn't tell you WHO's doing the controllling.\n\nFletcher's Political Works, pub'd in 1749, defines a \"well-regulated\nmilitia\", that being the relevant phrase, as being an armed people NOT\nunder the control of govt.  The wigged gents who argued about the\nconstituion used it in that way.\n\nFeel free to provide a 1790s-era reference showing a usage other than\n\"individual right, not to be interfered with by govt\".\n\nNote that the first clause has a meaning - it is a restriction on\ngovt military power.  See Scarry's University of Penn law review\narticle for an extended discussion.  The existence of a well-regulated\nmilitia is a necessary part of that restriction, but it is not sufficient.\n\n-andy","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n   Huh?  Where did you get this idea from?  I think you got this\nbackwards.  The Duo's memory is faster than its equivalent desktop\nmachine by 5-10% (and the rest of the powerboks). I think the\nexplanation for this was that it can refresh faster (in 2 instead of 5\ncycles I believe).  Things that could affect performance would be\nfactors such as use of functions enhanced in the FPU (which the Duo\ndoesn't have undocked).  Extensions and background applications can\nslow your computer down too.  Real life differences in speed are likely\nto be influence by the software you are running, what kind of screen\ndepth you are running etc.\n\nEspen","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n[story about dealing having problems w\/C610's deleted]\n\n\nI've had my C610 for about six weeks now with no problems whatsoever.\nIt's been \"customized\" with---\n\n * replaced the Apple-Quantum 80 drive with a Connor 212 drive.  \n\n * installed a Tandberg SCSI tape drive in the internal bay which works\n   just fine (though Apple doesn't seem to be supplying front panel\n   bezels w\/ a standard 5.25\" cutout...).  \n\nIt's hooked up to an Apple LaserWriter Plus and has no printing\nproblems at all, tested printing complex Photoshop graphics.\n\nIt has expanded VRAM and extra 8 meg SIMM, no problems.\n\nSo in sum, I have no idea what this dealer is complaining about.\n\n\t-Fred","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I have many icons in IconEdit and PBIcon format and I would like to \nconvert them to PBM, PGM or PPM format. Do you know the formats of\nIconEdit or PBIcon?","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"TRry the SKywatch project in  Arizona.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":" \n \n \n \n \n \n Where is Roger anyway?  Haven't heard from him in awhile.  He must\nbe out on the golf course waiting for the Leafs to join him any day\nnow. : )\n \n ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nIt could also be that your shell is hogging the resources.  For example,\nopen the apps with data files that cause resulting low system resources\nwith ndw 2.x as shell,\n \nthen do the same with program manager, and see if it's the shell or the\napps.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"ALL,\n\nFinally cleaned out the storage room and have the following items\nfor sale:\n\n             C-64 Computer\n             2-1542 Disk Drives\n             1351 Mouse\n             all cables\n             lots of software (mostly games)\n\nThe computer and drives work (hooked it to the TV to test)\nexcept for sound-evidently the sound chip is gone. When GEOS\nwas loaded, the mouse would not respond, so assume it is bad.\nCould be used for the games, or for spare parts.\n\nIf interested, would accept any reasonable offers.\n\nSend replies to ihlpl!rsbrd or call (708) 979-8816.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\nis there any script\/program\/thelike already existing which could transform\nthe output of x11perfcomp (a huge table) into a nice 3d'ish diagram or\ngraph by producing postscript output from x11perfcomp input ?\n\nMaybe someone has already written such beast ...\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"-*----\n\nI pity those who hope that medical knowledge can resolve issues\nsuch as this.  This issue has been rehashed in sci.med time and\ntime again.  The bottom line is this: in normal circumstances,\nboth the medical advantages of and the medical risks of\ncircumcision are minor.  This means that the decision is left to\nthe religious, cultural, ethical, and aesthetic mores of the\nparents, at best, or to the habit of the concerned hospital or\ncaregivers, at worst. \n\nAs (prospective) parents, you should do what you want in this\nregard and not worry about it too much.  In terms of decisions\nyou make for your child, it will have far less importance than\nmany -- such as which schools you choose -- that most parents\nthink about only a little. \n\nThis question will undoubtedly push the buttons of people who\nfeel that the decision to circumcise your infant or not is a\nmomentous medical decision.  It is not.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I'm not sure were this thread has been before i popped in, but I've never\nthought of waiting periods as having anything to do with training or\ncompetence. I just can't imagin any valid reason for having a gun that\ncan't wait a few days. I can think of plenty of bad reasons for not\nwanting a waiting period: I want to buy a gun and kill so-and-so right\nnow, I've crossed the state line to buy a gun illegally and I can't\nafford to spend the night here, etc.\n\nI'm not a big fan of guns, but I feel that it is important to guard\nAmerican's rights to own them. On the other hand, we license and regulate\nmany things without seriously impeding anyones constitutional rights.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"initially, 79 returned to active use, 80 new sectors marked bad, following\nsuccessive runs of spinrite.\n\nI think I need a new ESDI HDD controller.\n\nI know that these two will work:\nDTC 6280\nAdaptec 2322B\n\nOthers that MIGHT work:\nDTC 6282\nUltra Store 12\nWD 1007V\n\nIf you own one and will sell it cheaply I'll buy it.\n\nThanks,\n\n-Greg Bishop\ngt3635a@hydra.gatech.edu","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nbleagh! this was a terrific trade.  snow will certainly be better than\nmattingly in the future, but that they'll be about the same now is a\ndefensible opinion.  abbott is one of the few truly great pitchers in\nthe game today.\n\n\ni'm not sure about this one.  i think that it's good, in that a\npre-1992 boggs kicks hayes\/meulens\/whoevers' ass, and that a 1992\nboggs still isn't ALL that shabby.  it's bad, though, that the\nyankees expect a pre-1992 boggs, and will probably get a 1992 boggs.\nhowever, i'd still play boggs over hayes or bam bam.\n\n\nyou have my full agreement here.  he's not all that much better than\nvelarde, and silvestri is just about a lock to be better than him.\nhowever, i do enjoy the fact that \"spike\" is not a nickname.\nnot that this helps the yankees.\n\n\ni strongly disagree.  i'd much much rather have a hundred games of\ntartabull and sixty games of dion james than 162 games of james.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\nOften Shuttle lifts satellites with upper stages. Yet we still consider it\npayload. Ten Saturn flights over about 4 years delivered to LEO roughly the\nsame as 50 shuttle flights over 10 years.\n\n\nThey where pretty much the same in terms of cost\/pound. A resurected\nSaturn would cost only $2,000 per pound (if development costs are ignored)\nwhich is five times cheaper than Shuttle.\n\n    Allen\n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I have also moved on to a 66.6 mhz clock. Thus far not problems. I'm not totallysurprised as I've had Q700 run at 35.4 mhz (CPU clock speed) using a VSO. My\n25 mhz rated Daystar QuadraCache got very hot at 32 mhz and would fail previously. I glued on a piece of aluminum stock to the hi speed RAM chips and it runs\ncool without problems at 33.3 mhz. The combination is faster than a Q950.\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"<lots of stuff deleted>\n\n\nMight depend on where you live .. I know locally, for most of the winter\nthe ground, and concrete floor, within sheds and garages (unheated) is\nsignifacantly warmer than the average air temperature.  The air does get\nwarmer during the day, but during the night, the ground and concrete\nis definitely warmer, especially when protected by the walls from the\nalbedo effect.  And the nights are longer by several hours than the\ndays.\n\n<rest of quoted text deleted>","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"  \n   Hmm... there must be two towns with the same name.  Kaliningrad,\nlocated just North of Moscow is correct.  It is the home of several\nRussian space enterprises, including NPO Energia, Krunichev, Fakel,\nand Tsniimach.  The main Russian manned spacecraft control facility\nis also located here.\n   Kaliningrad is easily reachable by auto from Moscow, and tours\ncan be arranged.  Call ahead though, there are still armed military\nguards at many of these facilities -- who don't speak English,\naren't well paid, and are rather bored.\n   It's a very popular destination with Western space industry\ntypes at the moment.\n ----------------------------------------------------------------\n Wales Larrison                         Space Technology Investor","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nIn the hands of a defender, a .357 _is_ a miracle from God.  He helps those \nwho help themselves.  Or haven't you ever heard that one before?","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"[ deleted ]\n[ deleted ]\n\n  Evolution is both fact and theory.  The THEORY of evolution represents the\nscientific attempt to explain the FACT of evolution.  The theory of evolution\ndoes not provide facts; it explains facts.  It can be safely assumed that ALL\nscientific theories neither provide nor become facts but rather EXPLAIN facts.\nI recommend that you do some appropriate reading in general science.  A good\nstarting point with regard to evolution for the layman would be \"Evolution as\nFact and Theory\" in \"Hen's Teeth and Horse's Toes\" [pp 253-262] by Stephen Jay\nGould.  There is a great deal of other useful information in this publication.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\tThats pretty hard since CB900 customs weren't introduced\n\tuntil 1980.  If you find a pre-80 one, hold onto it.  It\n\twill be worth big bucks some day.\n\n\n\tMine has comstar wheels.  Methinks you need to do\n\tyour homework better.\n\n\n\tAnd obviously, neither do you.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Yesterday, I went to the Boeing shareholders meeting.  It was a bit shorter\nthan I expected.  Last year (when the stock was first down), they made a big\npresentation on the 777, and other programs.  This year, it was much more\nbare-bones.\n\nIn any case, I wanted to ask a question that the board of directors would\nhear, and so I got there early, and figured that If I didn't get to the mike,\nmaybe they would read mine off of a card, and so I wrote it down, and handed it\nin.\n\nAfter the meeting started, Mr. Shrontz said that he would only answer written\nquestions, in order to be fair to the people in the overflow room that only\nhad monitors downstairs.  Naturally, I was crushed.\n\nSo, when question and answer time came, I was suprised to find my question\nbeing read and answered.  Admittedly near the end of the ones that he took.\nPresumably getting there early, and getting the question in early made all\nthe difference.\n\nSo, on to the substance. The question was \n\nIs Boeing looking at anything BEYOND the high speed Civil Transport, such\nas a commercial space launch system, and if not, how will Boeing compete\nwith the reusable single stage to orbit technology presently being developed\nby Mcdonnell Douglass?\n\nWell, he read it without a hitch, and without editing, with impressed me,\nthen he answered it very quickly treating it as a two part question, last\npart first.\n\nThis is to the best of my recollection what he said.\n\nAs far as single stage to orbit technology, we think that we have a better\nanswer in a two stage approach, and we are talking to some of our customers \nabout that.  As far as commercialization, that is a long ways off.  The High\nspeed Civil Transport is about as far out as our commercial planning goes at\nthis point.\n\nSo, this tells me that Boeing still considers space to be a non-commercial\narena, and for the most part this is true, however it also tells me that \nthey consider there to be enough money in building space launchers for them\nto persue work on their own.\n\nNow, I do have a friend on the spacelifter program at boeing.  Actually,\nthis is a mis-nomer, as there is no spacelifter contract for the work that this\nguy is doing, however, he is doing work in preparation of a proposal for space\nlifter contracts.  He won't tell me what he is doing, but maybe this is where\nthe TSTO action is taking place at boeing.  At the very minimum, the chairman\nof the board of boeing said that they have an approach in mind, and they are\ntrying to do something with it.  \n\nAnybody know anything further?\nIs this really news?\nDoes this threaten further work on DC-? ?","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nIt is the Croats that were divided, at least 70,000 were left in Serbian\nprovince of Vojvodina. It is the Muslims that were divided, 200,000\nleft in the region of Sanjak that now belongs to Serbia. If the Serbs\nin Croatia and Bosnia-Hercegovina want self-determination, the same\nright should be given to Croats and Muslims, and Albanians and Hungarians\nin Serbia. Why should Serbia be exempted?\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nand skill.  If you haven't done it before, it can be dangerous.  It takes\nsome getting used to.  Read Ed's list.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"as far as simply mapping your logo or whatever onto a cube or sphere, \nit's quite easy. Just either copy the GIF you want mapped into the map \ndirectory or add a map path to the directory where it currently is. Then \ngo into the materials editor and make a new material with that as the bit \nmap, voila.. \n\n__________________________________________________________________________\n   |       \/         |\\\n   | H E   \\ Y B E R |\/ E N            [ zippy@cyberden.sf.ca.us ]","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\tThey must be theists in disguise.\n\n\tIn any event, we don't _need_ to create religious parodies: just \nlook at some actual religions which are absurd.\n\n\n\u001b[34mAnd now . . . \u001b[35mDeep Thoughts\u001b[0m\n\t\u001b[32mby Jack Handey.\u001b[0m","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I can (and do) take religious writings as a metaphor for life.\nI do this with all sorts of fiction, from Beowolf to Deep Space Nine.\nThe idea is to not limit yourself to one book, screen out the good \nstuff from what you read, and to remember that it is all just a story.  \nYou sound Buddist to me :^)","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nAntihistamines have been the active ingredient of OTC sleep aids for\ndecades.  Go to any drugstore and look at the packages of such sleep\naids as Sominex, Nytol, etc.  The active ingredient is:\ndiphenhydramine, the same antihistamine that's in Benadryl.\n\n\n\n--\nSteven Litvintchouk\nMITRE Corporation\n202 Burlington Road\nBedford, MA  01730-1420","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nWhile I have respect for John's ability and integrity, I really regret his\nleaving just after a major release (or, more accurately, making the release\njust before leaving).  Several of us are having problems with xv-3.00, and\nin particular I have issues with all the fixes that have so far been made\nto the Imakefiles and xv.h.  Without John to adjudicate, and everybody\nposting fixes that work for *them*, chaos is inevitable; let's hope it is\ntemporary.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI think the answer to Mr. Mayamsky's question can be found in the\nfirst amendment to the US Constitution.\n\n\tAmendment I                                           (1791)\n\n\tCongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of\n\treligion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or\n\tabridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the\n\tright of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition\n\tthe government for a redress of grievances.\n\nSteve","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Talking about car alarms, there are certain cars in this country that are \nonly insurable if they are fitted with a Vecta alarm. We're talking Coswoths\nand Porsches and stuff. Just before they (the insurance companies) decided to \nmake this move, they insisted that the car be fitted with a Scorpion alarm (\nnow they've changed to the Vecta)... so everyone who's spent $$$ on fitting \nthe Scorpion alarm have founbd themselves having to upgrade to the Vecta system.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nMacsee.zip on ftp.cica.indiana.edu is supposed to read and write Mac disks.  \nI've never tried it, though.  Good luck","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nhorizontally opposed 4.\nor 'boxer'\ngreat idea, actually..\nsmooth running; low center of gravity..\nalso used in some honda gullwings, corvairs, porsches (others?)\n...\n\n\n\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I wonder how many more years it will take Gretz to beat this one? ;-)","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nI am forced to disagree with you. First of all, one may have been \nborn from a non-Turkish, non-Muslim parent outside the Turkish land, \nyet still can be a Turk, provided this person calls himself or herself \na Turk. Because the designation of a Turk is not a genetic feature,\nnot a racial or religious feature. It is a matter of identifying\nwith the Turkish values. Secondly, the following observations by \nWesterners were written in French by Ahmet Cevat: \n\n\"If Turks had behaved like Christians to use force to convert to Islam the\nnations which they brought under their power, to which no one could have\nopposed, today there would be no Eastern problem. But Turks did not do so. \nThey obeyed the word of the Koran to permit everybody \"to worship in their own\nway\" centuries before Frederick the Great pronounced his famous dictum. Thus,\nin an age when the Christian Europe itself shed Christian blood and when \npeople in Europe enjoyed inflicting inhuman tortures upon those whose beliefs\ndiffered from theirs, the Ottoman Empire became the sole country where the\ninquisition did not exist, where deaths at the stake were unheard of and \nwhere accusations of witchcraft were not made. And the barbarian (!) Turkey\nwas the only country where the Jews persecuted and chased away everywhere\nby the Christians, could find asylum. These facts demonstrate that Muslim\ncountries provided spiritually far better living conditions than Christian\ncountries.\"[1]\n\n\"The Turks, who are a conquering nation, did not Turkify the nations that came\nunder their rule; instead, they respected their religions and traditions. It\nwas a stroke of luck for Romania to live under Turkish rule instead of\nRussian or Austrian rule. Because otherwise there would not have been a\nRomanian nation today\" (Popescu Ciocanel).\n\n\"Turks rule over people under their administration only externally, without\ninterfering with their internal structures. On account of this, the autonomy\nof minorities in Turkey is better and more complete than any in the most\nadvanced European countries.\"[2]\n\n\"...human beings hate each other on account of religious differences. This flaw\nis older than Islam and Christianity. But there has never been any examples\nof this adjuration in Turkey because Turks never oppress anybody on account\nof his religion. If enmity on the basis of religion had been such a case of\nsimple contempt among us too, or if it did not keep translating itself into\naction, many nations in our Europe would probably have considered themselves\nhappy!\" (A. de Mortraye).[3]\n\n\"Turkey never became a scene for religious terror or for the cruelty of the\ninquisition. On the contrary, it served as an asylum for the unfortunate\nvictims of Christian fanaticism. If you look into history, you will see that\nin the fifteenth century thousands of Jews who were expelled from Spain and\nPortugal found such a good asylum in Turkey that their descendants have been\nliving there very calmly all through these approximately three hundred years,\nand are only forced to defend themselves in some countries against the\ncruelty of Christians, especially that of the Orthodoxes. No Jew is able to\nappear in public during Easter celebrations in Athens, even today. In Turkey,\nhowever, if the Israelites are insulted by the Greek and Armenian communities,\nlocal courts immediately take them under their protection.\"\n\n\"In that vast and calm country of the sultan, all religions and nations are\nliving together peacefully. Although the mosque is superior to the church and\nthe synagogue, it does not replace them. Because of this, the Catholic sect is\nmore free in Istanbul and Smyrna compared with Paris and Lyon. In addition \nto the fact that no law in Turkey prohibits the open-air ceremonies of this \nsect, neither does any law imprison its cross in the church. While the\ndead are being taken to the graves, a long line of priests bear processional\ncandles and chant Catholic hymns. When all the priests in all the churches in\nthe Galata and Beyoglu districts go into the streets and form clerical\nprocessions during the Eucharist celebrations, chanting hymns and bearing\ntheir crosses and religious banners, a detachment of soldiers escorts them\nwhich forces even the Turks to stand in respect around the group of \npriests.\" (A. Ubicini).[4]\n\n[1]  Ah. Djevat, \"Yabancilara Gore Eski Turkler,\" 3rd ed. (Istanbul, 1978),\n     pp. 70-71.\n[2]  Ibid., p.91.\n[3]  Ibid., pp. 214-215.\n[4]  Ibid., pp. 215-216.\n\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"My first and most important point is that regardless of how your recovery\nhappened, I'm glad it did!\n\nOn 10-May-93 in Re: How I got saved...       \n\nNOW!  The point that I'll try to make is that coincidences like this occur\nwith a very high frequency.  How many of us have been thinking of someone\nand had that person call?  Much of the whole psychic phenomenon is easily\nexplicable by this - one forgets the misses.  Consider your astrological\nforcast in the newspaper.  How many times have you said \"That's me\" vs\n\"That's not me\"?  You'll remember the hits, but the misses will be much more\nfrequent.\n\nOn 10-May-93 in Re: How I got saved...       \n\nAnd what if, instead if being healed, your affliction got much worse and\nyou ended up paralyzed?  Would you have attributed that to god as well?\nOr would that have been the work of satan?  If you believe that would have\nbeen so, why ONLY good from god, and ONLY evil from satan?  Couldn't the\nagony have come from god?  Think about what he did to poor Job!\n\n\n\nDavid Hunt - Graduate Slave |     My mind is my own.      | Towards both a\nMechanical Engineering      | So are my ideas & opinions. | Palestinian and\nCarnegie Mellon University  | <<<Use Golden Rule v2.0>>>  | Jewish homeland!\n====T=H=E=R=E===I=S===N=O===G=O=D=========T=H=E=R=E===I=S===N=O===G=O=D=====\nEmail:  bluelobster+@cmu.edu    Working towards my \"Piled Higher and Deeper\"","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nNot entirely true. A friend of mine was having trouble finishing the game\nGODS and asked me for help since he could not find a \"trainer\" (small\npatch that lets you play without losing lifes). The game is compressed but\nI did find *one* byte which when changed in the original *compressed* file\nwould not affect the decompression and would also prevent the \"shield\" in the\ngame from being tured off turning therefore making you invincible.\n\nThere are many other progs whose copy protection was defeated one way or\nanother and I have seen examples of this with my own eyes. The copy\nprotection schemes defeated were various such as using protected mode,\ncompressed executables, progs that load and execute other progs (possibly\ncompressed), dongles, key disks, etc...\n\nI believe that persistence overcomes even the very best copy protection\nschemes.\n\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nYou allways could port and use emu from export.lcs.mit.edu:contrib\/emu.tar.Z.\nWe've implemented a blinking text cursor for the very reasons people mentioned.\nYou can even configure the actual size of the text cursor (horizontal \/ ver-\ntical line cursors, smaller block cursors), turn on and off blinking,\nset the blink rate and so on. You even get blinking text - ok, enough\nadvertising.\n\nI haven't looked at the xterm code in this respect, but from the memories\nI have when we had to decide whether to start with xterm and make it do\nwhat we wanted (mostly the blinking text), I'd say it won't be easy, since\nxterm is a hairy mess (understandable if you follow it's roots back to\nX10).\n\nThe actual task to get the cursor to blink isn't that difficult if you\nprovide the right hooks. As Antonio mentioned, you'll have to show the\ncursor directly after it has moved, or people will become confused.\nSince it's a good idea to take the cursor off the screen when you \ndo anything on screen anyways, this isn't very complicated. You'll just\nhave to start the blink process with the cursor showing directly after\nit's mapped.\n\nAs for the portability of emu and it's newest version. The one on export\nis still the same as on the R5 contrib tape. We wanted to get out a new\nrelease for over six months now, but unfortunately we're drowning in work.\nBut since the changes aren't affectiong emu's behavior much, I'd say\nwhoever wants to try emu shouldn't wait for a new version.\n\nAs is, emu won't work on BSD derived systems (e.g. SUNs) with anything else \nthan a csh. There is a fix to this, which is very short (remove one line\nof code). I'll put this on export today.\n\nMichael","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"The following books are up for sale.\nAll are in good to excellent condition.\n\nMake offers.\n\nrob@phavl.uucp   ( uunet!phavl!rob )\nRobert Ransbottom\nGeneral Supply & Metals, Inc.\nvoice: 508-999-6257\n\nIndex:\n   Miscellany\n   C \n   C++\n   Unix & Operating System\n   Intel Processor & MS-DOS\n\n\nMiscellany:\n\n    Algorithms, 2nd Ed., Sedgewick, Hardbound\n       List: $41.00\n\n    Programmers at Work, Lammers\n       List: $10.00\n\n    Software Reliability, Musa, Iannino, Okumoto HARDBOUND\n       List: $51.00\n\n    The Users Guide to Small Computers, Jerry Pournelle\n       List: $10.00\n\n    Out of the Inner Circle, Bill Landreth\n       List: $10.00\n\n    Elementary Pascal, Ledgard, Singer\n       List: $13.00\n\nC++ Language:\n\n    Object Oriented Program Design with Examples in C++, Mark Mullin\n       List: $20.00\n\nC Language:\n\n    Variations in C, Schustack\n       List: $23.00\n\n    Programs and Data Structures in C, Ammeraal\n       List: $20.00\n\n    Turbo C Programmer's Library, Jamsa\n       List: $23.00\n\n    Advanced Turbo C, Hebert Schildt\n       List: $23.00\n\n    Understanding C, Bruce Hunter\n       List: $18.00\n\n    C Database Development, Al Stevens\n       List: $24.00\n\n    C Programmer's Library, Purdum, Leslie, Stegemotter\n       List: $20.00\n\n    Dr. Dobbs Toolbook of C, Dr. Dobb's Journal\n       List: $25.00\n\n    C with Excellence Programing Proverbs, Henry Ledgard\n       List: $19.00\n\n    C, the Pocket Reference, Herbert Schildt\n       List: $5.00\n\n    C Programming Guide, Jack Purdum, SOME WEAR\n       List: $25.00\n\n    C Programmer's Toolkit (w\/ Disk), Jack Purdum\n       List: $40.00\n\n    C: Step-by-Step, Waite, Prata\n       List: $28.00\n   \nUnix and Operating System:\n   \n    The Unix System V Environment, S. R. Bourne\n       List: $27.00\n\n    UNIX Papers, Michael Waite, editor\n       List: $27.00\n   \n    UNIX for MS-DOS Programmers, Steven Mikes\n       List: $25.00\n\n    The Business Guide to the UNIX System, Yates, Emerson\n       List: $20.00\n\n    UNIX Programming on the 80286\/80386, Alan Deikman\n       List: $25.00\n\n    UNIX The Complete Reference, Stephen Collin\n       List: $25.00\n\n    Unix Primer Plus, Waite, Martin, Prata\n       List: $20.00\n\n    UNIX for Programmers, An Introduction, Daniel Farkas\n       List: $23.00\n\n    Unix for Super-Users, Foxley\n       List: $26.00\n\n    UNIX Communications, Henderson, et al\n       List: $28.00\n\n    Microport System V Made Easy: Learning the UNIX O.S., O'Reilly ( SV.3.2)\n       List: $10.00\n\n    Understanding and Using COFF, Gintaras, O'Reilly & Assoc.\n       List: $22.00\n\n    Operating System Design The XINU Approach, P.C. Ed., D. Comer & Foosum, HARD\n       List: $53.00\n\n    Microcomputer Operating Systems, Dahmke\n       List: $17.00\n\nINTEL Processor, MS-DOS:\n   \n    Inside the IBM PC (w\/ disk), Peter Norton\n       List: $30.00\n\n    Using Turbo Prolog, Robinson\n       List: $20.00\n\n    Using Assembly Language, Wyatt (ibm pc orientation)\n       List: $27.00\n\n    Compute's Quick & Easy Guide to Learning Lotus 1-2-3, Doug Wolf\n       List: $13.00\n\n    Advanced 80386 Programming Techniques, James Turley\n       List: $23.00\n\n    intel 80386 System Software Writer's Guide, Intel Corp.\n       List: $20.00\n\n    Performance Programming Under MS-DOS, Michael Young\n       List: $20.00\n\n    Programmer's Problem Solver for the IBM PC, XT & AT, R. Jourdain\n       List: $20.00","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I've turned my monitor on and off with the cpu running many times. Each time\nI wonder what I am doing to my CPU by directly hooking in such a high current\ndraw on its lines while it is running. Does this put a substantial spike on\nthe power line? Could one possibly lose data or damage equipment?\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nNo.\n\n\nNo. The library at Alexandria was perhaps the greatest library ever\nbuilt in the world. The Greeks had a love of wisdom, philo sophos, and\nthis great love was reflected in the Alexandrian library. The Christians \ngot a hold of it and began modifying and purging texts and then the Moslems \ninvaded and either the Christians burned the library to keep it from falling \ninto Moslems hands (far more likely since they were the book burners, not the \nMoslems), or it burned in the sack of the city or the Moslems burned it. \nEither way, a tremendous amount of information was lost. The destruction of the\nlibrary of Alexandria was probably one of the greatest crimes of man\nagainst man.\n\n\nActually, the Hebrew almah, (young woman), was translated as the Hellenistic \nGreek parthenos which may or may not be correctly translated into the\nmodern and technical English term virgin. The Jews did not have the type\nof virginity cult that the Greco-Romans had in Artemis and Diana.\n\n\nThe standard text used by Christians and Jews is the Masoretic Text.\nJews of course use the text in its original Hebrew, without translation.\n\n\nPropaganda.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nYow! Am I ENCRYPTING yet?\n\nDidn't we go over this guns'n'crypto discussion a few months ago? Must\nwe go over it again?","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\nOr the library might be there but not pointed to by LD_LIBRARY_PATH.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Would someone be willing to explain to me the 486DX 50MHz is not more\npopular than it is?  I would think it would be just as fast, if not \nfaster than the 486DX 66MHz for certian applications.  Plus, a 50MHz \nmotherboard would seem better if you had any plans on upgrading the\nchip in the future.  I must be missing something, since everyone is \nbuying the DX2 66...  Many adds don't even mention the DX 50.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nMy $0.02 worth: I did this once. BDI LadyCager in a Town Car passed me on\nthe right on a two lane road!:-{ I memorized her license plate (this in the\ndays before I carried pen and paper in my tankbag) and went to the local\npolice station. Cops filled out the ticket. I signed it. She paid it!\n\n                  tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nYou're reading far too much into this (aside from the obvious fact\nthat you shouldn't hold anybody to what they wrote in a 10 year old\nbook in a rapidly changing field like this.)\n\n\nQuite simply she says that the security should not DEPEND on the\nsecrecy of the algorithm.  A secret algorithm can still be secure,\nafter all, we just don't know it.  Only our level of trust is\naffected, not the security of the system.\n\nThe algorithm *could* be RSA for all we know, which we believe to\nbe secure.\n\nThey have a much better reason to classify the algorithm than to\nprotect its security.  They want to protect its market share.\n\nIf they publish the algorithm, then shortly manufacturers would\nmake chips that implement the algorithm and standard but do not\nuse a key stored in escrow.  And of course, everybody would buy them.\n\n\nThe whole push of this chip is that by establishing a standard that\nyou can only use if you follow their rules, they get us to follow\ntheir rules without enacting new laws that we would fight tooth and\nnail.\n\nQuite simply, with Clipper established, it would be much harder for\nanother encryption maker to define a new standard, to make phones that\ncan't talk to the leading phone companies.   The result is tappable\ncryptography without laws forbidding other kinds, for 99% of the\npopulace.\n\n\nTo get untappable crypto, you would have to build a special phone that\nruns on top of this system, and everybody you talk to would have to\nhave an indentical one.\n\nThat's the chicken and egg of crypto.  The government is using its\nvery special ability to solve chicken and egg problems of new\ntechnologies to control this one in a way they like.\n\n\nIt's almost admirably clever.  When the EFF started, I posed the question here\n\"What are the police going to do when they wake up and discover they\ncan't wiretap?\" and nobody here had an answer (or even thought it was\nmuch of a question)\n\nThen came the backdoor and Digital Telephony bills, which we fought.\n\nNow we have their real answer, the cleverest of all.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nIt's NOT the concrete floor that does it. The problem is that lead-acid\ncells self discharge over time. Even high quality cells (Gates for instance)\nwill discharge 50-60% over a 3-5 month period of time. Non-sealed cells\nself discharge even faster. If the battery was not completly charged\nwhen left sitting, it probably discharged past the the point where cell\nsulfiding occurs, which in many cases means a ruined battery.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nHere goes:\n\nMore than a few years back (if you were born that year, you can legally drink),\nwe tried it out.  We found an 8 ft. deep cistern that we lined with some 10 ft.\n2X6s.  We put a large can (one of those industrial sized pork'n beans cans)\nstuffed with oily rags and scraps of wood in the bottom.  After lighting the\nfire, we LOWERED a box of .38 Spc. SWCs into the can.  We heard pops, one solid\nbang and several \"fizzzz shussss\".  After we thought the excitment was over, we\nboldly climbed down to find that NONE of the bullets had left the can, several\nof the shells were lieing around the bottom of the well and the boards had all\ndied of smoke inhalation.  And 5 or 6 of the shells still had live primers!","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I UPGRADED MY OLD 386 WITH 486DX-50 LOCAL BUS MOTHERBOARD TWO MONTH AGO \nAND WITH IT I BOUGHT A CONTROLLER CARD LOCAL BUS AND A GRAFIC CARD \nDIAMOND STEALTH VLB.\nBUT WHEN I TRY TO PUT MY NEW GRAFIC CARD AND MY NEW CONTROLLER TOGETHER\nMY SYSTEM DON'T WANT TO BOOT UP; IT STOP AFTER CONTROLLER CARD CHECKING. \nI HAVE TRY TO CHANGE MY AMI-BIOS SETUP BUT NOTHING WORKS. \nJUST ONE THING WHEN I DISABLE MY ROM-BIOS ADRESS ON MY CONTROLLER CARD\nMY SYSTEM DO ONE MORE STEP: CHECKING ALL SYSTEM AND CACHE MEMORY BUT NOTHING\nMORE.\nTHANKS FOR ANSWER.\nCHROBERT\n \n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"If anyone has any information on this deficiency I would very greatly\nappreciate a response here or preferably by Email.  All I know at this\npoint is a deficiency can cause myoglobin to be released, and in times\nof stress and high ambient temperature could cause renal failure.\nx\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"In fact, I'm looking for a possibility to connect different peaces of information\n(like in the windows help system). \n\nAnd no, I don't want to program such a system by myself. The necessary effort and\nafford should be as small as possible.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nTell that to the people who run the 10-meter Keck telescope, or the \nastronomers and engineers working on the Gemini twin 8-meter telescope\nproject.  It took 7 years to build Keck I and now they are building\nKeck II.  According to the December 1992 Sky & Telescope, \"This\nsecond 10-meter eye will convert the facility into a binocular telescope\nwith double the light-gathering power and the ability to resolve\nthe headlights of a car some 25,000 kilometers away.\"   Japan's 8.3-meter\nSubaru telescope will soon join Keck on Mauna Kea.  All these telescopes\nwill work in the infrared, yes, but they are _visible light_ telescopes!\n\nAnd haven't you heard anything about adaptive optics?  A lot of research\nwas done with \"Star Wars\" funding, and some is now being shared with\nastronomers.  This shows great promise.  Soon, probably within a few\nyears, even the largest telescopes will be able to resolve to their \ntheoretical limit _despite_ the distortions of the atmosphere.\n\nTo say that \"visible light astronomy is already a dying field\" is \npure hokum.  To use the \"logic\" that things are already bad, so it doesn't\nmatter if it gets worse is absurd.  Maybe common sense and logic\nare the dying fields.\n\nGeorge Krumins","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n[...]\n\nThe House Document Room can be reached at +1 202 225 3456.  You need to \nhave the number of the document you want (e.g. HR1036) and they'll be happy\nto send it to you.  Tell them if it's going to be a big stack, because the\nsurly sounding guy who answers is scrawling in a really awful hand on the\nback of the envelope that will come and will run out of room quickly if\nyou don't tell him.\n\nThe Senate document room is too important to deal with the likes of you\nand I, and will answer requests from off the hill only by mail.\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n(much mindless drivel deleted)\n\n\nQuestion to you Canadian folk:  is this University of New Brunswick a\nbranch campus of the Western Business School?  Seems like the same sort\nof rectal appendage belongs to both of them.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nNow to make it perfect apple ought to run right out and license\nthe voice of a certain Mrs. Roddenberry for the speech synthesizer....","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!\nWHAT KIND OF HAPPY GRASS YOU ARE SMOKING? MAYBE YOU SHOULD SHARE SOME WITH ME.\nFIRST OF ALL, LOU GEHRIG IS THE GREATEST FIRST BASEMAN EVER. JIMMIE FOXX IS\nCLEARLY THE NEXT BEST FIRST BASEMAN EVER. HE COULD BE THE GREATEST FIRST\nBASEMAN OF THE YANKEES IN THE MODERN ERA. TO PUT HIM IN THIS \"BEST IN THE\nHISTORY OF BASEBALL\" IS QUITE HUMOROUS, VERY SILLY, AND TOTALLY OFF THE LINE.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nI'll pick up that PM and have a look -- maybe the picture in there is not\nthe actual car, but a prototype?\n\nI saw the Mach III and was not all that impressed -- it looked WAY too\nJapanese for me... the tear drop headlights reminded me of a Nissan NX...\n\nGlad I didn't hold out for the '94 and bought a '93.  Maybe they'll work on\nthe design a little bit, listen to consumers and come out with nice-looking\n'95 or '96.  It always takes a while to work out the kinks in a new design,\ne.g. the F-body Camaro\/Firebirds (btw, the new Camaros look like shit too).\n-- \nKeath Milligan, Software Engineer, VideoTelecom Corporation, Austin, Texas\njkm@vtel.com, reaper@wixer.bga.com","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
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{"text":"\n\n\tYou don't know much about the fall of Diem's government in Vietnam.\n\tOr the traditional Indian practice of Suttee. People have been\n\tburning themselves to death (or willing to go through such and end)\n\tfor political and religious reasons since the beginning of time.\n\tAlso, death from smoke inhalation is little better than dying from\n\tthe flames themselves. Think about breatning in searing toxic\n\tgasses. It's not pleasant.\n\t\n\n\n\tThen again, to a Buddhist monk, it might be. To each his own.\n\n\n\tI'm waiting to see what the government has, too. \n\n\n                  _____  _____\n                  \\\\\\\\\\\\\/ ___\/___________________\n  Mitchell S Todd  \\\\\\\\\/ \/                 _____\/__________________________\n________________    \\\\\/ \/ mst4298@zeus._____\/.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'_'_'_\/\n\\_____        \\__    \/ \/ tamu.edu  _____\/.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'_'_\/\n    \\__________\\__  \/ \/        _____\/_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_\/\n                \\_ \/ \/__________\/\n                 \\\/____\/\\\\\\\\\\\\\n \t\t\t \\\\\\\\\\\\","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nEven if they did, a globe at a scale that you could fit into your average room\nor even average \"hall\" the deviations you mention would not be visually\nevident. In other words a micrometer would be required to test the fact that \nthe Globe was infact pear-shaped.  \n\nRegards Scott.\n_______________________________________________________________________________\nScott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au]  PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272).                \n                                                             _--_|\\       N\nDepartment of Psychology                                    \/      \\    W + E\nUniversity of Western Australia.      Perth [32S, 116E]-->  *_.--._\/      S\nNedlands, 6009.  PERTH, W.A.                                      v       \n\n    *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp ***","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"CALL FOR PAPERS\n                             ===============\n\n\n                        Progress In Neural Networks\n                     Special Volume on Shape Analysis\n\n\n                Omid M. Omidvar         Minsoo Suk\n                 Series Editor        Volume Editor\n\n\n\nSignificant progress has been made recently in shape analysis using\nneural networks and the energy minimization concept. Ablex Publishing\nCorporation is planning a special volume on \"Shape Analysis\", scheduled\nfor this year.\n\nThis volume will be a part of \"Progress in Neural Networks,\" an annual\nbook series reviewing research in modelling, analysis, design and\napplication of neural networks. The primary aim of this volume is to\npresent, in a single volume, the most important achievements made on\nthis important topic, which are otherwise scattered in diverse literature.\n\nAuthors are invited to submit original manuscripts detailing recent\nprogress. Suggested topics include, but are not limited to: shape modelling,\nshape estimation, shape recovery, shape representation, shape matching,\nsurface reconstruction and surface decomposition. Research work utilizing\nneural networks directly or based on energy minimization techniques such as\nMarkov random field, mean field annealing, simulated annealing, graduated\nnon-convexity algorithms and resistive networks are most welcome.\n\nThe paper should be tutorial in nature, self contained and preferably,\nbut not necessarily, about fifty double spaced pages in length. Please send\nelectronically (if you prefer, you can send a hardcopy to the address below)\nan  abstract and an outline to\nmsuk@ima.enst.fr\nby May 30, 1993. The full paper must be submitted by July 31, 1993 to:\n\n\n\nEurope                                  USA","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nThere are two approaches:\n\n1. If your power cord is the kind that detaches from the back of the\nmonitor (most common) you can get a *replacement* power cord that will go\nfrom the monitor to the back of the computer.\n\n2. You can get an adpater that connects to the plug end of the existing\npower cord and provides the proper end that plugs into the back of the\ncomputer.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nYeh. Be tough to pick up UK Telly in your situation:-}\n\nNo signs of Type 259 ads in TV in the states yet, but I don't watch much,\nso I'm not in a real position to comment.\n\nBUT! I got my invite to the dealer introduction \"On the deck out back\".\nRSVP is on the way!!!!!!\n\n                  tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n                                                        -jeremy\nAre you talking about a single BATSE component, or\nthe whole thing?\n\nYou *could* propose a BATSE probe; launch two or three with ion\ndrive on various planetary trajectories... your resolution increaces\nthe more they're spaced apart. You could probably cheaply eject them\nfrom the solar system with enough flybys and patience.\n\nThings would start out slow, then slowly get better and better\nresolution...","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"   OK, I heard a lot of talk about the NSA's infamous control over encryption\n   export through the ITAR.  Here's a question.  Say I develop this great new\n   encryption system, and I want to sell my software worldwide.  The thought\n   police then come in and say \"This algorithm is a threat to national security.\n   You will not be permitted to export it.\"  At this point, what kind of trouble\n   could I get into if I ignored the ITAR and sold my program to international\n   customers anyway?\n\nFirst of all, it's not the thought police, it's the export police.\nIf you move overseas with your great thoughts in your head, write the software there,\nand then sell it, the US Thought Police probably can't do too much about it,\nthough you might want to check with your lawyer first.\n\nHowever, if you write the program here, and sell it to furriners,\nyou are now an international arms dealer and can get thrown in the\nclink for *many* years, especially if they decide you'd be a good example,\nand Cuban Drug Dealers and Fanatic Middle Eastern Terrorists buy your stuff.\n\n(Definitions of \"public domain\" are different for ITAR purposes, so if\nyou've got a good enough lawyer who'll do your case for free after\nthey've confiscated everything you own as evidence, you might win.\nBut nobody wants to go first, since the stakes are _quite_ high.)","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThis has to be a dictionary attack.  No other attack makes sense.\n\n\nThis means that whoever encrypted the file just typed some password\nwhich was a single dictionary word, and then Russell tried all the\nwords in the dictionary.  This isn't too implausible, especially if he\nwas smart and clipped the first plaintext block off the ciphertext (if\nthe first block doesn't decrypt then obviously the others won't\neither).\n\nAssuming one attempt a second, it takes seven hours to try all the\nwords in \/usr\/dict\/words.   Not real tough.\n\nIf you want DES to be secure, you have to use RANDOM KEYS.  You can't\njust type your wife's name and think \"aha they'll never guess that\none!\"\n\n\n\n-- \nDaniel F. Boyd -- boyd@cs.buffalo.edu ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"So THAT'S what happened to Denny McLain.  Sad.\n\nFor those of you who are interested, another baseball pariah,\nPete Rose, has a weekday radio show on the Sports and\nEntertainment national radio network.  I think it's 3-5 PM\nlocally, 6-8 PM on the East coast.\n\nAnd actually, his on-air monologues about the baseball\nbusiness sounds a lot more reasonable and articulate\nthan what I hear from the Ray Knights of the world.\n--\nGreg \"Mockingbird\" Franklin   \"Interracial mixing encompasses a lot lot more\nf67709907@ccit.arizona.edu      than mingling between G7 races.\" -- robohen","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I have the following IBM hardware forsale\n\n\tATI VgaWonderXl24 -  This is a great card, it supports 1024x768 256 colors, 800x600 32k colors, and 640x480 16 million colors.  I found that it also speed up windows considerably.  I'm asking $100 o.b.o. for this card.\n\n\n\tI also have 2 2400 baud modems.  I have Docs for both but I don't have the original boxes.  Both work fine and I'd like to get $25 each or $40 for both.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"# \n# > Dear Mr. Beyer:\n# > \n# > It is never wise to confuse \"freedom of speech\" with \"freedom\"\n# > of racism and violent deragatory.\"\n# > \n# > It is unfortunate that many fail to understand this crucial \n# > distinction.\n# \n# \tIn fact, if a speach was not offensive to some, its\n# protection under Freedom of speach laws would be useless. It is\n# speach that some find questionable that must be protected, be\n# it religiously blasphemous or inherently racist. It is only\n# through civilized discourse and not scare tactics that one can\n# enlighten those that one perceives to be ignorant. That is the\n# idea behind freedom of expression.\n# \tWhat you find offensive might be perceived as truth by\n# some and what they might find offensive might be your belief.\n# It is only through free exchange of ideas (and insults as the\n# case seems to be with this channel) that one can change\n# another's erring ways.That is why Jefferson said that here \n# we are not afraid to \"tolerate error so long as reason is left to \n# combat it\". \n\n  Does this mean that YOU are volunteering to wade through the\n  Mutlu\/Argic deluge that comes in every day?  Some of us are\n  tired of being dragged into content-free pissing contests\n  with reflexive bigots.  We INTENSELY dislike being stuck between\n  letting this crap pass without comment as though it were\n  unremarkable and replying to it and getting sucked in again.\n\n  Let's keep some perspective here.\n\n  IMHO, the Josh's policy of forwarding the garbage in question,\n  without comment, to the relevant sysadmin strikes a good\n  balance.  The stuff was, after all, PUBLISHED on a public\n  forum -- from that very site, yet.  Hardly a matter of\n  confidentiality or copyright.  If the local administration\n  wants to do something about it, they have that right.  If\n  not, nobody's twisting their arms.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nDoes this need to have anything to do with disk compression? I have \nexperienced the same thing a couple of times myself, but *without* any disk \ncompression stuff installed. (For example, guess what happened when Norton \nSpeedDisk once crashed during defragmenting!)\n\nBjorn-\n\n* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *\n   Bjorn Myrland                  *  bjorn.myrland@sipaa.sintef.no\n   SINTEF Safety and Reliability  *  N-7034 Trondheim, NORWAY","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\tI got mine for about 7 bucks at Radio Shack.  The instructions\nDO say to expose it to light for a while, but mine doesn't seem to require \nvery much to make it work.\n\n\tI just wish I could get a big sheet of the stuff, abouit 12\" x 12\"\nfor a reasonable price.....it isn't cheap, from what I've seen.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nYou, along with Mario Lemieux, must be from another planet.  The only\ndifference is that Lemieux comes from the one with Geo. Washington, Abe\nLincoln (and many other great men and women of this world) whereas you come\nfrom the one with David Koresh.  Yeah, Mario is good at drawing penalties,\nbut wouldn't you try do something (you do claim to play) to give your team\nan advantage?  I don't remember Lemieux getting any diving penalties this\nyear, whereas many others did.  Finally, Mario has NEVER complained about\nbeing hit.  He knows it's part of the game; he gets back by dishing out an\neven bigger hit to the same guy or just scoring a few goals (or setting\nthem up.)  Don't you have any compassion for a man who has gone through so\nmuch in his life?","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"This inelegant device started life as a 175 watt security lamp, until\ni smashed off the outer glass to liberate the nasty rays, It works a\ntreat, weighs a heap (due to the ballast) , and NO - i wont ship it !!\ncheers\nMike.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"** I am posting this for a friend **\n** please respond to vaughn%sonatech@hub.ucsb.edu **\n\nI'm working on an application where we are creating a dither pattern \nand rendering it in a window by applying it to the stipple pattern \nof the GC.  The following code segment almost works if the window width \nis an even multiple of 8.  If it is not an even multiple it skews the \npattern towards the right.  Another problem, whether it is an even \nmultiple of 8 or not, is a series of vertical lines spaced 8 pixels \napart.\n\n\nextern\tDisplay\t       *dpy;\nextern\tWindow\t\txid;\nextern\tGC\t\tgc;\n\nextern\tint\tMax_X, Max_Y;\t\t\/* set in resize handler\t*\/\n\ndither(pixels)\n\n\tchar\t*pixels;\t\t\/* dither pattern data\t\t*\/\n\n\t{\n\tchar\t*bm;\t\t\t\/* bitmap data\t\t\t*\/\n\tchar    *bmp;\n\tlong\t I, arraymax;\n\n\n\tarraymax = Max_X*Max_Y;\n\n\tbm  = (char *)malloc(arraymax);\n\tbmp = bm;\n\n\tfor (I=j=0; I<arraymax; I++)\n\t\t{\n\t\tif (pixels[I] & DITHER_BIT)\n\t\t\t*bmp |=   2<<j;\t\t\/* pixel on\t\t*\/\n\t\telse\n\t\t\t*bmp &= ~(2<<j);\t\/* pixel off\t\t*\/\n\n\t\tif (++j > 7)\n\t\t\t{\n\t\t\tbmp++;\n\t\t\tj = 0;\n\t\t\t}\n\t\t}\n\n\tstipple = XCreateBitmapFromData(dpy, xid, bm, Max_X, Max_Y);\n\tfree(bm);\n\n\tXClearWindow(dpy, xid);\n\n\tXSetStipple(dpy, gc, stipple);\n\tXSetFillStyle(dpy, gc, FillStippled);\n\tXFillRectangle(dpy, xid, gc, 0, 0, Max_X, Max_Y);\n\tXSetFillStyle(dpy, gc, FillSolid);\n\t}\n\nI suspect the answer is to pad the data.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nThis is actually more like the stuff from Phase A and MOL....Phase B ended\nwith a \"Power Tower\" approach....","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\ngimme a break!  you KNOW chevy'd screw that up just like that almost great\ntruck with the \"big phat 454\".  Have you ever seen the mufflers on that \nthing??it's amazing it moves....(which isn't to say it's not a good idea,\nbut i'm quite sure chevy'd screw it up the same way)","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n[Some discussion about whether Elias is money grubbing deleted]\n\n\n\n\n\nSome thoughts and facts,\n\n1.)  Bill James is a partial owner of STATS, inc.  However he has almost\nnothing to do with the day-to-day operations of the company, although he\ndoes have significant input into the design of the books that bear his name.\n(The handbook, but not the scoreboard).  To the best of my knowledge, the\nonly things that Bill actually writes for STATS are the predictions section\nof the handbook, and the Bill James Fantasy Baseball rulebook.\n\n2.) The debate over Elias goes way back.  Bill James' early stuff was hampered\nby the fact that Elias would not give access to their stats at any price.\nProject Scoresheet, and later, STATS were founded to fill this void.  You\ncan call STATS, and ask them for a report on just about anything in their\ndatabase, and they will provide it -- for a price, of course.  Or you could\njust log into their online system and look at the data yourself.  Having\nattempted to pry numbers from Elias in the past (football, not baseball), they\njust don't do that.  In STATS eyes, the high ground comes from making the\ninformation available at all.\n\n3.)  That being said, I'm pretty dissapointed by Bill's book this year, too.\nI am given to understant that it was mostly a response to the publishers \ndesire to have the book come out sooner than April.\n\nHope this makes things just a little bit clearer.\n\n(Bias alert.  I am a former part-time employee of STATS.)","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\nSo, who is Mykotronx, Inc.?  It would be nice to know that they were\nnot a front company used by an intelligence or other agency of the \nU.S. government.  Trusting the fox to guard the chickens, and all that.\nSeems suspicious when the rest of the sources are foxes.\n\nWhile we are at it, the chip design(s) should be examined and verified\nagainst silicon to insure no trap doors or hidden protocols exist in silicon,\nregardless of the security level of the encryption algorithm.  It would be a \nshame if some three letter agency had the ability to interrogate my chip, when\nall I'd know is that someone rang, and when I attempted to go off hook the\nline went dead.  Could be even worse if the chip were intended to connect\ndirectly to a modem.\n\nThe design examination should be done to the gate level.  Does anyone have\na good idea how to tell if there is a piggyback design on silicon?  The model\nwould be extra logic sharing pins with the advertised function.  Tip offs\nwould be circuitry that would ignore incoming data if formats or sequence\nis not right.  I can think of only two ways an output pin could be used,\nand its possible that might be noticed, but could be edited from the netlist.\nI think the silicon itself needs to be investigated.  Imagine a design\ndone in two layer metalization, yet finding a third layer under the\nmicroscope.  ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I am working with 24 bit RGB BMP files and need to\ncomvert these to 15 and 16 bit images. How do convert\n24 bit images to 15 and 16 bit RGB images? Thanks! \n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I need to be able to cause a beep, but without using any interrupt\nroutines, as I cannot use the BIOS. I believe that the PIC might have\nsomething to do with it, but I'm having troubles deciphering the\ninformation I have on it to figure out how to program it!\n\n\tI'm programming all of this in Turbo C, if that makes any\ndiference at all...\n\n\tPlease can anyone help me??!\n\nThanks,","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nJust taking a guess, perhaps it was that Koresh had peaceably been served\nwith warrants before, and he did not shoot anyone but instead went with the\npolice without fighting.\n--\n\"On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Leftover Turkey!\nOn the second day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Turkey Casserole\n    that she made from Leftover Turkey.\n[days 3-4 deleted] ...  Flaming Turkey Wings! ...\n   -- Pizza Hut commercial (and M*tlu\/A*gic bait)","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nVery good point.  Is there someone out there that is working on this?\nI'd offer my time to help manage\/do it all myself but yaw'll are not\ngoing to hear from me over the summer.  I'm not trying to be pushy,\nand there is being progress made (re: pov mailing list).\n\n-hed\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nI know you work at sun, but that's really no reason not to like fast \ncomputers. I suspect a conspiracy here. Are you trying to drag Intel through \nthe mud at a con or something? I really wish you guys would make your own \ncomputers faster instead of degrading others'. Why don't you go straight for \nthe top and run a pentium at 0.7 MHz while you're at it?\n\nSeriously though; Why in the bleeding hell do you want a 386\/40 to run at \n25MHz?????????????\n\n(Insert smiley where appropriate)\n\nMAIL-mail: gunnarh@sofus.dhhalden.no    SNAIL-mail: Gunnar Horrigmo\n           gunnarh@fenris.dhhalden.no               Oskleiva 17\n                                                    N-1772 Norway","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nOk, I have a question... why?  Why do people copy the article, and the \nonly new thing they add to the post is there name?  I'm not picking on \nthis person, I've seen a few of these.  Is it just a mistake?  Am I \nmissing something?  Is it some unknown net-equette I missed somewhere?\nI skip over all the quoted material, since I've already read it, and look \nfor the non-quoted material, and all I get is the name addition.  Is this \nsupposed to me \"I agree\", or \"I second this\" or what?\n\nSorry...","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nWow! You really know how to hurt a guy. Guess I shouldn't bother watching\nany more games. It's already been decided. :^)\n\nluigi\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\tWhat I saw on TV and what you claim are two different things. The\nDavidians did not start shooting until after the BATF lobbed a couple\ngenades in the windows and started shooting themselves.\n\n\n\tEASY! If you see federal agents in body armor with sub machine guns\ngoing in throught windows, that is a No-Knock warrant. Also since the \nvideotape shows the BATF throwing grenades before the BD's etunred fire, \nyou can safely assume that they didn't ring the doorbell.\n\n\nP.Vasilion,","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Howdy, Netlanders:\n\nCan you put an ISA card into an EISA slot?\n\nAlso, can you put a 8-bit PC card in an ISA \nslot?\n\nPlease e-mail if possible,\n\nThanks ahead of time,","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Argh. This is what I get for acknowledging David Sternlight's existence.\n\n\nOkay, it looks like I am going to have to do the history lesson after all.\n\nDuring the Vietnam war, there were a great many citizens opposed to it\nwho considered themselves perfectly law abiding, although Mr. Nixon and\nhis lackeys thought otherwise.\n\nThe Federal government had no compunction about adding \"people who\nare otherwise decent, law abiding and upstanding, but disagree with\nus\" to your nice little list. Do you think this could never happen\nagain?\n\nNote that I am not speculating about what the government could do,\nbut discussing the sort of \"observation\" - including but not limited\nto phone tapping - that the government put its citizens under during\na time of national tension.\n\nYour naivete is still appalling, BTW. I mean, read what you posted again.\nHow are we to differentiate between Good People and Bad People? Answer:\nA priori, we can't; we have to assume. Now, which way do we assume? Do\nwe assume a priori that a citizen is law-abiding, or rather a potential\nCommunistDrugLordChildAbuserCultMessiah? One of the things that's\nsupposedly great about America is the freedoms enjoyed by citizens who\nare presumed to be law-abiding until proven otherwise.\n--\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Are there any Off-Line mail readers for the net-news?  In qwk format?  It \nwould be really helpfull to be able to download the net news from a Vax or\nmainframe and read it off-line.....\n\n\nAdam Hodge","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"OK... quick scenario... you're at home, not bothering anybody... next thing you\nknow, somebody comes crashing in the upstairs window and you hear an explosion.\nYou see that this individual has a submachinegun, and that more similarly armed\nindividuals are rushing your front door.  Will you a) defend yourself and family\nagainst this attack b) realize \"oh, only the BATF would enter like that, so I \nbetter surrender\" or c) roll over and let whoever is attacking your home do\nwhat they would like?  You have chosen a), and discover that the people you \ndefended yourself against are federal agents, who now are camped outside your\ndoor waiting for you to surrender.  You have learned that they intend to \ncharge you with murder, and are further defaming your name, while claiming that\nyou can safely surrender at any time.  Then they start using psychological \nwarfare techniques against you, while still claiming that you can safely give up\nand will receive a fair trial.  Some weeks into this standoff, you are still\nholding out, when they begin a new ploy to induce your surrender, namely using\ntear gas to annoy you, and ramming your home with tanks.  Yet they claim that\nyou can safely surrender at any time.  While you patiently wait out this latest\nround of attacks, your house catches fire and the bales of hay you were using as\ncover spread the fire rapidly through the house, and you try to escape through\nthe fortifications you had raised for your own defense and the rubble created\nby the tanks.  Only 9 of your followers make it.\n\nI am not claiming that the above scenario is accurate.  I am disagreeing with\nthe notion that it is their own fault for dying because they refused to \nsurrender to agents of the Federal government after another federal agency\ncommitted an armed assault of their home on the basis of a flimsily concocted\nsearch warrant.  \n\nLook at how the Texas Rangers view the BATF.  Look at the FBI statements\nregarding the BATF actions.  From all apparent sources, the FBI blundered\ntrying to clean up the mess made by the BATF, resulting in an accidental fire\nwhich killed most of the BD's who were still in the compound, and are now \nplaying CYA.  The BATF committed an illegal assault, obtained the use of \nTexas NG resources with fabricated allegations, and compounded their abuses\nby accusing the BD's of crimes outside their jurisdiction once they had been\nheld off in their assault.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Well, here goes.  After lurking for a LONG time, I'll announce myself. Yes, I'm\nthe enemy. The enemy that also happens to ride an \"arrest me red\" 90 VFR. \n     Bike history:  (as if this endears me to the DoD)\n     79 Honda XL 175  \"High School\"\n     85 Kawasaki KLR 600\n     84 Honda V65 Sabre \"Cornering by Committee\"\n     88 Honda Hawk GT \"Proctologists' designed this bike\"\n     90 VFR\n\n I'll entertain questions but my answers will reflect Georgia law and may not   \n apply in your state.  \n  \n  P.S.  Anyone got a Nomex suit for sale?","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n    \n    I remember reading an article in Reader's digest many moons ago\n about a similar incident. During a minor leaque game a player neck was\n cut when the opponent he was back-checking tripped and his skakes\n flew up. In this case the victim's mask proved a hinderance since\n his face was protected and so he didn't bother with the\n usually instinctive reaction to protect his face\/neck. A quick        \n thinking coach saved his life by applying direct pressure and using\n snow to contract the blood vessels (from what I can remember).","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nAs she said, the letter is addressed to Bettman.  The post (which, though\nhaving pretty much the same content, is an entirely different entity) was\naddressed to all.  When she puts the letter in the mail I doubt it will\nsay \"To: All\".  I figure she wanted to let people here see what was in it\nsince it is a topic that interests a lot of folks here.  That's an entirely \ndifferent purpose than sending the letter to Bettman.\n\nUnfortunately...\n\n\n\nThe \"largest computer networks in the world\" phrase is a definition of \nthe Internet, not a group as a whole that she claims to represent.  As\nfor the business of whether or not it is large, it is large compared\nto say, the number of folks on r.s.h. who are sending a letter to thank\nhim for changing the names, at least to this point.  And just for my\nown curiosity I thought I'd look up the \"official\" definition of large\nin the dictionary.  It reads:\n\nlarge - 1.  having more than usual power, capacity, or scope.    \n        2.  exceeding most other things of like kind in quantity or size.\n\nNow I have no idea how many letters Bettman may have gotten on the issue\nor how many people may have signed them.  65 people may be up there, \nthereby validating definition 2.  I would also wager that the geographical\nrange of signatures is quite large, which would give it a large scope.\n\n\nWhy would he be impressed with this unless it were \"large\"? \n\nI am of course assuming that you actually agree with what you are writing\nand are not simply trying to be a pain about the whole issue to hear\nyourself speak.  \n\nI personally don't know whether or not I agree with the letter.  I have\nvery mixed emotions about it.  I like the names as they are, and don't\nthink they make it that difficult to learn the game, but there might be\na shred of validity to the change.  \n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nThis comes up periodically, and I just don't get it. Take, for example, Mark\nMcGwire. He walked 90 times in 1993. If that's not a potential great example\nof what you're talking about then I don't know what is. Now let's look at\nwhat happens when McGwire doesn't walk:\n  75% of the time he made an out.\n  10% of the time he hit a single.\n  5% of the time he hit a double.\n  10% of the time he hit a homer.\nNow, you're pitching against McGwire. Would you trade 20 walks for 2 homers,\n1 double, 2 singles, and 15 outs? I would. Why give him the base when you\ncan get him out 3 times out of 4?\nThen there are guys like Alex Cole, who has a career .363 OBP even\nthough he's never had a batting average over .300 (he did hit .300 in\n227 AB in 1990) or hit a single home run. Yep, that's right, he's\n*never* hit a homer in 916 AB's through the end of 1992. Who'd be\nafraid to throw a strike to him?\n\n Mike Jones | AIX High-End Development | mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"For Sale:  24 Pin Printer - ALPS Allegra 24\n\n     Asking Price:  $150 shipped prepaid\n                             (C.O.D. orders pay C.O.D. shipping).\n\n     Features:\n\n            Straight paper path (won't jam).\n            Paper saving tear-off capability (no need to waste a sheet to\n               get a current printout).\n            Programmable preferences (you don't even need a computer)\n            Letter Quality 360dpi output\n            Epson LQ2500 emulation built-in\n            Card slot for additional memory \/ font upgrades\n            Printer ribbons easily found (there are three or four sources\n               for ALPs ribbons in every Computer Shopper).\n            Fast 180 CPS output\n            This printer has not even been used in the last two years (three\n               years old) because I have a laser printer at work and use that\n               instead.\n            Originally $399.\n\n            I'll even throw in two ribbons (may need simple reinkings tho).\n\n\tAdisak Pochanayon\n\t2525 University Avenue\n\tApartment J\n\tMadison, WI 53705\n\t(608) 238-2463\n\n---------------------------------- CUT HERE ----------------------------------\n\n     Jeez!!! It never fails, get in the tub and there's a rub at the lamp!\n-- The Genie from Aladdin.\n\n             pochanay@cae.wisc.edu   eddie (Adisak) Pochanayon\n Check out all of SilverFox SoftWare's Releases.... your Amiga entertainment.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\"The Villager-Quest seem like the best of the Cravan\/Voyager\n\tcopies to come along since the Mazda MPV.\"\n\nI'll agree about villager but not MPV -- it's so small that I'd class\nit as a SUV with an extra seat shoehorned in.  To get any rear cargo\nspace, you shove the back seat up against the middle seat, eliminating\n*all* leg room.\n\nBack to the Villager ...\n\n\t\"Only the price is controversial.\"\n\nAnd the use of attack belts instead of 3-point belts.  That killed it\nfor me.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nIn the part of the posting you have so helpfully deleted, I \npointed out that they used the wording from the English Bill of\nRights apparently *changing* what they understood by it, and I\nasked why then should we, two hundred years later, be bound by\nwhat Keith Allan Schneider *thinks* they understood by it.\n\n\nSo one cannot say \"a cruel fate\"?\n\nYour prevarications are getting increasingly unconvincing, I think.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nEspecially the '68 Shelby-American GT-500KR (King of the Road, so named\nto steal GM's planned Camaro King of the Road's thunder :-)\n\n\nSome GT-40s are street legal, some aren't.\n\n\nI found my Shelby-American guide. There were a grand total 126 GT-40s\nbuilt:\n\t\tGT-40 Coupes\t\t55\n\t\tGT-40 Road Cars\t\t31\n\t\tGT-40 Mk II\t\t13\n\t\tGT-40 Mk IIIs\t\t 7\n\t\tGT-40 Roadsters\t\t 5\n\t\tMirages\t\t\t 3\n\t\tGT-40 Mk IVs\t\t12\n\t\t   \tTOTAL:\t       126\n\t\tAdditional uncompleted Mk IIIs\t6-12\n\nTwelve of these cars were prototypes; 48 racing coupes; 31 road coupes;\neight Mk II coupes; 4 LHD Mk IIIs; and 3 RHD Mk IIIs. The other \nbreakdowns follow the above list (eg, 12 were Mk IVs). The LHD\/RHD\nbreakdown is only given on the Mk IIIs.\n\nThe prices (for those which can be bought) are around the $1 Million\nmark, last I heard, with a projection of some $3.5 Million (or\nthereabouts) in 2000. It was second only to some penny-ante Ferarri ;-).\n\nShelby won the FIA World Manufacturer's Cup with his Cobras in '65; that\nwas also the year that he retired them from the Shelby-American racing\nteam (in favor of the Ford GT program the next year). That victory\nbroke a 13(?) year Ferarri winning streak.\n\nWell, there's lotsa info I could spout, but I'll refrain. Much of\nthis information comes from \"Hot Rod\" magazine's \"Shelby American\nCobra\/Mustang Guide,\" which has more info on the Shelby-American \nFords than you could _ever_ want to know.\n\n\t\t\t\tJames","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Does anyone have the player stats for games played up until\nApril 22,1993.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"In a post of 29 April (?), considering disasters as instances of the\njudgements of God in history, Andy Byler spoke of\n\n > the desire of the Jerusalem mob who crucified the Lord that\n > \"His blood be upon us.\"\n\nVera Noyes replied (02 May),\n\n > I will not comment here for fear of being heavily flamed.\n\nI invite them both (and other interested parties as well) to read my\ncomments on this verse of Scripture. To obtain them, send the\nmessage GET CHOOSING BARABBAS to LISTSERV@ASUACAD.BITNET or to\nLISTSERV@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU. Putting it briefly, I think that the\nsignificance of the demands of the Jerusalem crowd has usually been\ngreatly misunderstood, both by Christian and by anti-Christian\nreaders.\n\n Yours,\n James Kiefer","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nI own a PC FanCard II, which is a slightly different beast.  It's a long card\nthat plugs into an 8 or 16 bit slot and contains two muffin fans.  It requires\nno extra cabling.  I had a 286 that was experiencing some problems due to\nheat.  The FanCard made the system run cool enough so that the problem no\nlonger appears.  It's supposed to keep the internal temperature in the range\nof 75-95 degrees Fahrenheit.  According to the maker's (M.S. Tech)\nadvertisements, the US Army used a bunch of these to keep their PCs running\n(w\/o a\/c) in Desert Storm.  I can't vouch for that.  However, I am a satisfied\ncustomer.  And I have no other connection with the maker or the mail-order\nhouse (Lyben  (313) 268-8100).\n\nHope this helps,","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\nOr how about:\n    \"End light pollution now!!\"\n\nYour banner would have no effect on its subject, but my banner would.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Everyone is complaining about the debacle in Waco. It is hard to \nunderstand all this angst. What happend there is nothing less than\nwhat we wanted to happen. Why all the sour grapes ?\n\nBATF was looking for a propaganda event to counteract their impending\nbudget cuts ... the attendance of the press at the initial big\ncommando raid is proof. It would have been ever so easier to grab\nKoresh and his central followers as they shopped in Waco. Alas, no\npropaganda value there. \n\nThe FBI screwed-up big time, all the time. They should have never allowed\nthe situation to drag out like that. A quick second assault, before the\nBDs could decide on a strategy, would have been the better plan. \n\nThe BDs themselves were the biggest screw-ups though. They imagined\nthat US law and US law-enforcement had no jurisdiction within their\nlittle 'country'. WRONG ! They had no right whatsoever to fire on\nthe BATF, and if they mistook their identity initially, they should\nhave surrendered at once when they did realize who they were. If the\nBDs had a problem with the warrants, they take it to court, just like\nthe rest of us. If they wanted full-auto weapons, they could have\nobtained the proper permits, just like the rest of us would need to\ndo. What they may NOT do is decide for themselves what US law applies\nto themselves and which does not. They get their chance like the rest\nof us - at the voting booth. \n\nIf the BATF and FBI have become latter-day Gestapo, then they have\nbecome that way because WE have desired them to be so. We get to\nvote on laws, and on the lawmakers. By our choices over the years,\nwe have approved the creation and form of the BATF and FBI. When\nthe FBI was out chasing 'pinkos', the general public didn't seem\nto mind a bit of extra-constitutional activity. When the BATF is\nraiding militant black organizations, we don't mind the heavy hand.\nWhen the FBI is dicking around with the rights of potheads, the\npublic doesn't mind. Suddenly, when we see a bit of ourselves in\nthe current 'enemy' choosen by these agencies, we get all bent out\nof shape. SUPRISE ! You reap what you sow.\n\nWaco was an encapsulation of the All-American experience - religious\nfanaticism, militaristic thinking and overwhelming violence. Don't\nblame it on 'them', the FBI and BATF. They were just acting within\nthe parameters we have set over the years. We made 'them'. We ARE 'them'.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nThat's kind of extra work that one cannot expect the store people to do.\nIMHO it would be easier if companies sell their software as cheaply as\npossible AND to sell the customers detail manuals (for the brain-deads)\n, quick reference books, how to do books and videos, paid support hot line\n(1-900 :).  For the registered purchasers, these can be part of their package.\nI have seen many books to teach people how to use DOS, WP and other software.  I\nI suspect either users can't read the manuals or they don't have manuals.\nEither way, there is $$$ to be made.   BTW books are quite a bit more\nexpensive to reproduce than a $1 disk.\n\n\nWith the popularity of Multitasking and pseudo multitasking systems\n(eg. OS0.5, Windoze, Mack System 7), it is pretty easy to run a debugger\nand figure out the protection schemes by disassembling\/tracing\/trapping\nthe application during run time.  Schemes like compressed software\/\nspecial loaders would be easy pray even to beginner hackers.\n\nHardware keys (unless well designed and *TOTALLY* transparent) is a\npain in the b*t.  We having using a piece of software under Windoze\nthat uses a hardware key.  The key interfers with the printer stuff\nwith other programs and often has to be unplugged for those software\nto work properly.\n\n\nAll the hacker has to do is to remove\/modify code that communicate with\nthe port.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nFirst the FBI said they saw two members of the cult start the fire-and the \nFBI never lies.  Second, the first started in opposite ends of the compound \nat the same time and thirdly, the fire spread too quickly for it not to be \nhelp without an accelerate.\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nAs I've noted, you can likely get around that with a directional\nsensor. Phased array systems could completely defeat this scheme.\n\n--\nPerry Metzger\t\tpmetzger@shearson.com","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"One can only remap special-command keys in procomm it seems. I\nwould like to remap other keys too - especially \"altgr 2\", and\nsuch combinations.\n\nAnybody know a plain OR dirty way to do this?? (of cause most\npeople settle for remapping function keys, but I don't see\nwhy there should be a limitation...)","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"In-reply-to: johnn@eskimo.com's message of 21 Apr 93 23:03:27 GMT\nNewsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware\nSubject: Re: Monitors - Nanao?\nReferences: <C5uw1t.3HI@eskimo.com>\nDistribution: \n--text follows this line--\nI have a Nanao 17\" (F560?)  on my IPX. I prefer it to my Sun 16\"\ntrinitron at work with all those vertical jitters and the two\nhorizontal shadowmask thingies.\n\nI got it from one of the folks advertising in Computer Shopper et al\nfor $1050 plus about $40 shipping. \n\nI bought a cable which goes from the Sun's 13W3 connector to the\nmonitors 4xRGBS for about $50 from a Macintosh mailorder shop (Relax\nTechnologies).\n\nI'd do it again. Happily.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"hypodermic\nit. \nthere is\nme.\n\nLooking in The Evolution of Anaesthesia by M.H. Armstrong Davison\n(pub Williams & Wilkins, Baltimore 1965) I found the following\nchronology:\n\n\"1853.  Charles-Gabriel Pravaz (1791-1853), inventor of the\ngalvanocautery, describes a glass syringe with tapered nozzle. This\nsyringe was intended to be used with a special trocar for injecting\nferric chloride into aneurysms, and thus to heal them by coagulation.\n\n1853.  Alexander Wood (1817-84)  of Edinburgh invents the hypodermic\nneedle and adapts Pravaz's syringe for use with it.\"\n\nYou might also be interested to read about the experiments of Sir\nChristopher Wren in 1656, described by Oldenberg & Clarck in the\nPhilosophical transactions of the Royal Society in 1665. Using a\nsharpened quill and a pig's bladder he injected opium, wine and beer\ninto the veins of dogs.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nThere is also the question of cause and effect.\nLock a mostly straight guy up for 10 years with only guys, ask\nten years later if he has ever had sex with a guy. Closing your\neyes and pretending its a girl sucking you still counts as sex\nwith a guy on the survey....","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n[....]\n\nThanks Jon.  I had forgotten about the 1912 and 1927 invasions (if I had\never learned of them.  I mean I *really* forgot!)  But I read the context\nas more recent, such as when the Sandinistas were expecting an \"imminent\"\ninvasion from the U.S. which never happened.\n\nI stand corrected.  Thanks.\n\n\nI remembered this one.  This one and Bush's invasion were the two I\nmentioned above.  Good ol' Teddy R.-- he knew how to get things done!\n\n\nRegards,","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"A great many computer programmers read \"Dr. Dobb's Journal\".  In a recent\nissue, there was a paragraph in an article that pained me greatly to read.  It\n\n  \"There's nothing wrong if Microsoft setting the standards for the computer\nindustry.  The industry NEEDS an IBM for the 90's.\"\n\n  Where has the hacker ethic gone?  Not the \"cracker\" ethic, which is something\nentirely different and bad, but the hacker ethic, which tells us to value the\nfree distribution of information and yield to the hands-on imperative?  Why is\nit that people and corporations like Bill Gates, IBM, and Intel are able to\nhave a virtual dead lock on the computer industry?  Why is it that, if a person\nlike myself posts messages to Usenet on how to get into the little nooks,\ncrannies, and idiosyncrasies of a computer system, they are not given any\nuseful information by those who know, just a badmouthing? (or are completely\nignored)  Why is it that people like Steve Jobs have to abandon their efforts to\nmake truly innovative products?  I ask those of you who call yourselves\nhackers, why is this?  And further, how can you let it go on?  It is a fact\nthat the computer industry has changed the world, and shall continue to do so\nfor a long time to come.  It has allowed the propagation of information in a\nvolume unheard of even twenty years ago, and has made this world even smaller\nthan it was before.  I shudder to think what that world will be like if the\ncorporations are allowed to have their way, perpetuating more drivel like the\n286, Windows, and the IBM product line on the computer-using public.  \n\n  That is not to say I am against business per se; people who profit off of\ninnovative, intelligent, creative designs do not bother me.  In fact, I applaud\nit; that is the American way.  But those who manage to sell kludgy, uncreative\nsystems to the public, and profit off of them, are the ones who are the\nproblem.  And, unfortunately, because they have enough money to make up for\nblunt stupidity, they can keep doing it for a very long time.\n\n  I put it to you thus:  Where HAS the hacker ethic gone?  If it still exists,\nwhere?  And, if it DOES exist, why are those who call themselves \"hackers\"\nallowing this to perpetuate itself?  Why are they not creating new, innovative,\ninteresting ideas to stop the SOS from maintaining its choke hold on the\ncomputer industry?\n\n  I await with interest what will probably be a resounding silence.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Has anyone got an active filter design program that runs on an IBM PC ??\n\nSomething that will easily let me specify bandpass filter parameters,\nand it will give me the appropriate component values ??\n\nIt has to be public domain,  if anyone has one, could you mail it to me.\n\nThanks in advance,\n\nScott\nu9035710@wraith.cs.uow.edu.au","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\nI'd like to thank you all for the fast responses. \nSpecial thanks go to those who replied (lexical order):\n\nMarcus J Ranum <mjr@TIS.COM>\nPaul Crowley <pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk>\npausch@saaf.se (Paul Schlyter)\ntarnold@vnet.IBM.COM (Todd W. Arnold)\nwcs@anchor.ho.att.com (Bill Stewart) \n\nMy question was:\n\n\nHow much of the DES-encrypted data is affected depends on the used\nencryption mode. According to Marcus J Ranum (mjr@TIS.COM) there is:\n\n\nUnfortunally, people strongly disagree which mode will lead to destruction\nof all of the following data. Sure seems that some modes will resync quite\nfast, others will never, others will even only effect the very block.\n\nSummarized, people said concerning *this* matter:\n\n\/\n\\\n\nMaybe someone *definitely* knows what happens in which mode?\n\nNevertheless, Thank you all very much again.\n\nAxel Dunkel\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nI include the responses I got:\n\nFrom: tarnold@vnet.IBM.COM (Todd W. Arnold)\n\n\nIt depends on the mode you're using.  For a single 64-bit input block, a\none-bit error will have a 50 percent chance of corrupting each of the 64\noutput bits - in other words, it essentially turns the output block into\na random number.  If you're encrypting data in CBC mode, however, only the\none 64-bit block will be affected.  The next block, and all that follow it\nwill be decrypted properly.\n\nIt's a good idea to have some kind of error correction in your system if\ncorrupted bits are likely.\n\n   - Todd\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nFrom: pausch@saaf.se (Paul Schlyter)\n\n\nAt least 8 bytes of data will be destroyed if one bit encrypted data is\nin error.\n\nIf you use CBC (Cihper Block Chaining), then the remainder of the data\nwill be destroyed as well.\n\nDES is VERY seisitive for single bit errors.  This is as it should be.\n\n-- \n---\nPaul Schlyter, Swedish Amateur Astronomer's Society (SAAF)\nNybrogatan 75 A, 6 tr,  S-114 40 Stockholm,  Sweden\nInterNet:  pausch@saaf.se\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nFrom: Paul Crowley <pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk>\n\n\nProbably very bad; you might lose the rest of the data stream.  If you\nwant safety against dropped bits use an error correcting coder like the\nfreeware GNU ecc.\n  __                                  _____\n\\\/ o\\ Paul Crowley   pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk \\\\ \/\/\n\/\\__\/ Trust me. I know what I'm doing. \\X\/  Fold a fish for Jesus!\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nFrom: wcs@anchor.ho.att.com\n\n   how sensible is DES encrypted data towards bit errors? How much data per\n   bit will be lost in average (I assume you still have the correct key)?\n\nIt depends on the mode you're using DES in.\nElectronic Code Book (ECB) takes a block of 64 input bits\nand produces 64 output bits, so if any bits are changed,\nthe entire block of 64 bits becomes bad.\nI forget which feedback mode is which.\nIn all of them, the results of encrypting one block affect later blocks.\nWith some modes, the system self-synchronizes, so errors are repaired\nin a few blocks.  With other modes, once one block is bad,\nall later blocks will be bad too.\n\nThere's also the framing problem.  If you have a bit change,\nthe block that it's in changes, and maybe later blocks also change.\nBut if you have bits lost or bits added (64 bits in, 63 or 65 bits out),\neverything is confused after that.\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nFrom: Marcus J Ranum <mjr@TIS.COM>\n\n\tdepends on the mode you're using. cfb, for example, synchronises\npretty fast. figure a bit error will destroy the current block and the\nnext one.\n\nmjr.\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n---\nExperience is what you get if you don't get what you want...","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"  Sorry, you have a _wish_ for an uncluttered night sky, but it\nisn't a right. When you get down to it, you actually have no rights\nthat the majority haven't agreed to give you (and them in the process).\nIt's a common misconception that being born somehow endows you with\nrights to this that and the other. Sadly this is not true.\n  Now if you want to talk about the responsibility that _should_ go with\nthe power to clutter the night sky, then that's a different matter.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nI would not be too quick to say that they are almost certainly untrue.\nEven strong minded people may fall back on childhood indoctrination,\ngrasp at straws, or do other strange things when faced with extreme\nsuffering, not to mention physiological problems which may lead to\ndiminished mental capacity.\n\nAt the risk of restarting an old argument and accusations of appeal to\nauthority I remind readers of what I posted a while back as a kind of\nobituary for the late atheist Dr. Albert Sabin. In an old interview\nrebroadcast on public radio just after his death he told about a time\na few years before when he was stricken with a very serious illness.\nHe admitted to having cried out to God while critically ill and on a\nrespirator. As it turned out he recovered and lived several more years.\nAfter his recovery he attributed this to early indoctrination. Don't say\nit couldn't happen to you, or that it hasn't happened to others, even if\nyou are one of the few people who have experienced things like this.\nPeople are different. I admire Dr. Sabin for admitting his human weakness\nin that instance. I would not think less of Asimov for similar weakness.\n\nNevertheless I agree that these reports are unsubstantiated and may\nwell be untrue. In any case they are not evidence for anything besides\nthe power of early indoctrination and human frailty.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"way.qub.ac.uk writes (single angle brackets):\n\nng \n\nThere is no question of similarity in Jesus indication about John.\nThe passage in Matthew is very direct.  Where Luke (1:17) reports\nthe angel Gabriel prophesying that John will go before Christ \"in the \npower and spirit of Elias\", In Matthew 11: 14, Jesus himself says of John,\n   \n   \"And if you care to accept it, he himself is Elijah, who\n    was to come\".\n\nIt is interesting that Jesus prepended the words, \"If you care to accept\nit\", as if to say that the implications of this truth, namely of rein-\ncarnation, I will not force on you, but for those who can accept it, here it\nis.  A Jewish poster to other newsgroups on Jewish esotericism and other\ntopics has outlined the esoteric, cabbalistic Jewish teaching of of\nreincarnation and Karma, a teaching that is little known among Jews\ntoday, but which is apparently widespread enough in Israel that Hannah\nHurnard (\"Hinds Feet on High Places\") was told about it by a Rabbi\nshe was trying to convert back in the 1940s as a missionary in Palestine.\nThus there may well have been a small number of Jews who knew about this,\nwhereas the large number of people did not.  The statement of Jesus about \nJohn, the greatest human personality in the New Testament, is guarded\nbut nevertheless quite direct.  Again, the subject of reincarnation, one\nway or another, is not a subject of the New Testament, nor is the fate in general\nof the human being between death and the last judgement.  But there are \noccasional indications that point to it.\n\nAs for the \"popular belief\" that Elijah would come again, it was more than \na popular belief, as Jesus confirms it in more than one place, and he never \ncorrected those who were expecting Elijah --  for example, those who thought \nthat Jesus himself be he.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\tJohn Smoltz, Tom Glavine, German Jiminez, Dale Murphy, Bruce Sutter,\nPete Smith, Rick Mahler, Jim Acker, Jim \"Break on Through\" Morrison, Ron\nGant, Andres Thomas, Gerald Perry, Ozzie \"The Aeneid\" Virgil, Lonnie Smith,\nJerry Royster.\n\tHow'm I doing so far?\n\tNOTE:  I am not a Braves fun.n\n\n On the other hand, ask any\n\n\tOn the other hand , II like the Braves *much* more than the\nCubs.  And all I can name is Ron Santo, Ernie Banks, and Don Kessinger\nfrom 1969, my favorite Cubbie season.\n\n\n\tRight.  I've watched enough Braves' games to know a great deal\nof their players.  I like many of their players.  The only Cubs games I\nget to see while living in New York are those against the Mets, and they\nput me to sleep because, face it, watching guys like Rick Sutcliffe and\nLuis Salazar doesn't put me at the edge of my chair.u\n\n\n\tActually, I notice a lot of anti-Toronto sentiment here in the\nStates.  Partly because of some of that post-Series arrogance (thanks\nin part to \"Upside-Down Flag\" dork posts), partly because Roberto Alomar\nis about as exciting as Swiss Cheese, and partly because, living in \nBaltimore during the winters, I've become so fond of O's fans (especially\nthose who call in to Rex Barney's radio show) that I have to side against\ntheir most hated rivals.\n\n\tSorry, but METS is spelled with an \"M\" and a \"T\".... =) ","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"From 9150618 Thu Apr 29 16:36:43 1993\nDate: Thu, 29 Apr 1993 16:36:42 +1000\nFrom: 9150618 (Gavin Fairlamb)\nTo: 9130037\nStatus: R\n\n\nHello, folks...\n        I am doing a uni. project and was wondering if you could\n   supply with some specific info. or references for info. regarding\n   \t\t1). Considerations for installation of XWindows in\n\t\ta HP 9000(unknown model)\n                2). Motif, OPENLOOK, XToolkit????\n                3). X11, X11R.... \n                4). Glossary of any term on X \n\tWe considering this software for the project which deals\n     in image analysis...\n\n     Any info. would be greatly appreciated.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"The 486 at the same CLOCK is NOT as fast as the 040 at the same\nclock speed.  The '040 also has much better floating point unit.\nNow the DX2-66 is faster than the '040 at 33Mhz.  But for your\nreference the 486 at 33 mhz gets ~14MIPS while the '040 at\n33mhz gets ~20MIPS.\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n  Son of the Return of the \"How much does Americans know about the rest of\nthe word?\"-flamewar anyone?\n\n-bertil-","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nCertainly many religious beliefs seem to be positive principles for\neveryday living.  Indeed, I believe it is the Islamic religion which\navoids alcohol (I apologize if I name the wrong religion) and that\nis certainly a physical positive in many respects.  However, this\nproves nothing.  Just because something is a \"basic, pragmatic\nprinciple of day-to-day living\" TODAY doesn't mean it evolved from\nthe same.  Especially those beliefs and (mostly) positions held based\non interpretations of the religion.\n\nReligious beliefs come from many places but most will be backed up\n(after many levels of arguments) to \"Because that's how it is written.\"\nor \"God says...\"  Now I'm not faulting that but that is not a basic,\npragmatic principle as you mean it in this context.  It is a belief\nbased on faith, which by definition is not necessarily backed up by\nlogic.  Faith is a given.  God is a absolute truth when arguing from\nreligion.  Also, many religions would reject your thesis that their\nbeliefs simply come from these day-to-day principles.\n\nIn summation, if you wish to use religious arguments be prepared to\nback them up with \"It says in the [fill in religious document here],\"\nbecause most religions (things which at least I denote as religions)\nare based on the writings of or teachings of [fill in religious\nfigure here].\n\nNOTE: Religion is a charged topic and if I offended anyone regarding\n\t  my references to God, I apologize.  Please insert your own\n\t  sensible references, the argument should apply to nearly all\n\t  religions.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
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{"text":"  I laugh at you now, and I will laugh at you again, equally publicly,\nwhen the Jays finish third due to the severe depletion of their talent.\nI think Bill James put it best (about Sparky Anderson, _Abstract_ 1983):\n\n\"There are a million guys in this country with great attitudes, but there\nare only about five hundred who can play a major league brand of baseball;\nwhich are you going to take?\"","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nI beg to differ, he had a couple 3 hit games after he came back.  He did\nget caught stealing though.  He also missed sunday's game.  Did he play\ntonight?  If not, I'm worried.  He's on my team too.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nThey are using some technology developed by VLSI systems, the other manufacturer of\nthe Clipper Chips, that produces chips that are supposed to be highly resistant to\nreverse engineering.\n\n-- ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I need a graphics display program that can take as a parameter the name of\nthe file to be displayed, then just display that image and then quit.\n\nAll of the other graphics display programs come up with a menu first or some\nother silliness.\n\nThis program is going to be run from within another program.  I have lots of\nmemory and VGA color.  Any graphics format will do.  Has anyone heard of such\na beast?\n\n\t\t\t\t\tKeith\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nWell, you were going well until you hit this one.\n\nHawaii was an independent country.  A coup by Americans led to a request to\nannex it.  The US refused, but eventually did annex it several years later\nduring the Spanish-American War.\n--\n\"On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Leftover Turkey!\nOn the second day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Turkey Casserole\n    that she made from Leftover Turkey.\n[days 3-4 deleted] ...  Flaming Turkey Wings! ...\n   -- Pizza Hut commercial (and M*tlu\/A*gic bait)","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nTypical 'virvir' drivel. People will think you're just some \nlooney howling in the wires. If you think that this 'clears \nthings up' for me or anyone else, you must also believe that \naliens from outer space come to earth regularly and abduct \n'Arromdians' of ASALA\/SDPA\/ARF for medical experiments. There \nis stronger evidence for *that* you know.\n\n'Propagandist leaflets'? This is an American officer on the \ngenocide of 2.5 million Muslim people by the Armenians between\n1914 and 1920, not a crook\/idiot like yourself.\n\n\nSource: \"World Alive, A Personal Story\" by Robert Dunn. Crown Publishers, \nInc., New York (1952). \n(Memoirs of an American officer who witnessed the Armenian genocide of 2.5 \n million Muslim people)\n\np. 361 (seventh paragraph) and p. 362 (first paragraph).\n\n 'The most are inside houses. Come you and look.'\n 'No, dammit! My stomach isn't-'\n 'One is a Turkish officer in uniform. Him you must see.'\n \"We were under those trees by the mosque, in an open space....\n 'I don't believe you,\" I said, but followed to a nail-studded door. The \n  man pushed it ajar, then spurred away, leaving me to check on the corpse. \n  I thought I should, this charge was so constant, so gritted my teeth and \n  went inside.\n\n The place was cool but reeked of sodden ashes, and was dark at first, for \n its stone walls had only window slits. Rags strewed the mud floor around an \n iron tripod over embers that vented their smoke through roof beams black \n with soot. All looked bare and empty, but in an inner room flies buzzed. As \n the door swung shut behind me I saw they came from a man's body lying face \n up, naked but for its grimy turban. He was about fifty years old by what \n was left of his face - a rifle butt had bashed an eye. The one left slanted, \n as with Tartars rather than with Turks. Any uniform once on him was gone, so \n I'd no proof which he was, and quickly went out, gagging at the mess of his  \n slashed genitals.\"\n\np. 363 (first paragraph). \n\n 'How many people lived there?'\n 'Oh, about eight hundred.' He yawned.\n 'Did you see any Turk officers?'\n 'No, sir. I was in at dawn. All were Tartar civilians in mufti.'\n\n \"The lieutenant dozed off, then I, but in the small hours a voice woke me - \n Dro's. He stood in the starlight bawling out an officer. Anyone keelhauled\n so long and furiously I'd never heard. Then abruptly Dro broke into \n laughter, quick and simple as child's. Both were a cover for his sense\n of guilt, I thought, or hoped. For somehow, despite my boast of irreligion,\n Christian massacring 'infidels' was more horrible than the reverse would\n have been.\n\n From daybreak on, Armenian villagers poured in from miles around.....\n The women plundered happily, chattering like ravens as they picked over\n the carcass of Djul. They hauled out every hovel's chattels, the last \n scrap of food or cloth, and staggered away, packing pots, saddlebags, \n looms, even spinning-wheels.\n\n 'Thank you for a lot, Dro,' I said to him back in camp. 'But now I must \n leave.'...We shook hands, the captain said 'A bientot, mon camarade.' And \n for hours the old Molokan scout and I plodded north across parching plains. \n Like Lot's wife I looked back once to see smoke bathing all, doubtless in \n a sack of other Moslem villages up to the line of snow that was Iran.'\"\n\np. 354.\n\n\"At morning tea, Dro and his officers spread out a map of this whole\n high region called the Karabakh. Deep in tactics, they spoke Russian,\n but I got their contempt for Allied 'neutral' zones and their distrust\n of promises made by tribal chiefs. A campaign shaped; more raids on\n Moslem villages.\"\n\np. 358.\n\n\"It will be three hours to take,\" Dro told me. We'd close in on three\n sides.\n\"The men on foot will not shoot, but use only the bayonets,\" Merrimanov\nsaid, jabbing a rifle in dumbshow.\n\"That is for morale,\" Dro put in. \"We must keep the Moslems in terror.\"\n\"Soldiers or civilians?\" I asked.\n\"There is no difference,\" said Dro. \"All are armed, in uniform or not.\"\n\"But the women and children?\"\n\"Will fly with the others as best they may.\"\n\np. 360.\n\n\"The ridges circled a wide expanse, its floors still. Hundreds of feet \n down, the fog held, solid as cotton flock. 'Djul lies under that,' said \n Dro, pointing. 'Our men also attack from the other sides.'\n\n Then, 'Whee-ee!' - his whistle lined up all at the rock edge. Bayonets\n clicked upon carbines. Over plunged Archo, his black haunches rippling;\n then followed the staff, the horde - nose to tail, bellies taking the\n spur. Armenia in action seemed more like a pageant than war, even though \n I heard our Utica brass roar.\n\n As I watched from the height, it took ages for Djul to show clear. A tsing\n of machine-gun fire took over from the thumping batteries; cattle lowed,\n dogs barked, invisible, while I ate a hunk of cheese and drank from a snow\n puddle. Mist at last folded upward as men shouted, at first heard faintly.\n The came a shrill wailing.\n\n Now among the cloud-streaks rose darker wisps - smoke. Red glimmered about\n house walls of stone or wattle, into dry weeds on roofs. A mosque stood in\n clump of trees, thick and green. Through crooked alleys on fire, horsemen\n were galloping after figures both mounted and on foot.\n\n 'Tartarski!' shouted the gunner by me. Others pantomimed them in escape\n over the rocks, while one twisted a bronze shell-nose, loaded, and yanked\n breech-cord, firing again and again. Shots wasted, I thought, when by\n afternoon I looked in vain for fallen branch or body. But these shots and\n the white bursts of shrapnel in the gullies drowned the women's cries.\n\n At length all shooting petered out. I got on my horse and rode down toward\n Djul. It burned still but little flame showed now. The way was steep and \n tough, through dense scrub. Finally on flatter ground I came out suddenly,\n through alders, on smoldering houses. Across trampled wheat my brothers-in-\n arms were leading off animals, several calves and a lamb.\"\n\np. 361 (fourth paragraph).\n\n\"Corpses came next, the first a pretty child with straight black hair, \n large eyes. She looked about twelve years old. She lay in some stubble \n where meal lay scattered from the sack she'd been toting. The bayonet \n had gone through her back, I judged, for blood around was scant. Between \n the breasts one clot, too small for a bullet wound, crusted her homespun \n dress.\n\n The next was a boy of ten or less, in rawhide jacket and knee-pants. He \n lay face down in the path by several huts. One arm reached out to the \n pewter bowl he'd carried, now upset upon its dough. Steel had jabbed \n just below his neck, into the spine. \n\n There were grownups, too, I saw as I led the sorrel around. Djul was \n empty of the living till I looked up to see beside me Dro's German-speaking \n colonel. He said all Tartars who had not escaped were dead.\"\n\np. 358.\n\n \"...more stories of Armenian murdering Turks when the czarist troops fled\n  north. My hosts told me of their duty here: to keep tabs on brigands, \n  Turkish troop shifts, hidden arms, spies - Christian, Red or Tartar -\n  coming in from Transcaucasus. Then they spoke of the hell that would \n  break loose if Versailles were to put, as threatened, the six 'Armenian'\n  vilayets of Turkey under the control of Erevan...\n\n  An Armenia without Armenians! Turks under Christian rule? His lips\n  smacked in irony under the droopy red moustache. That's bloodshed - just\n  Smyrna over again on a bigger scale.\"\n\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"The best one I saw last year was Willie McGee off Matthews (I think?) in\nPhillie.  A fierce line drive that was still rising when it hit thE\nsecond deck facade at the Vet.  Willie McGee had one homerun last year.\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI don't think they can do that without changing the law.  The chip itself\nisn't classified, and reverse engineering is allowed by law (possibly)\nunless prohibited by a valid contract.  The algorithm may be classified,\nbut there are many court cases ruling that information identical to\nclassfied information, but obtained from unclassified sources, is freely\npublishable (with the possible exception of nuclear weapon information.)","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":": I live up in British Columbia, Canada.The cable company I use is called\n: Rogers Cable. Does anyone know of their scrambling techniques, and ways of\n: getting\n: around them? Any suggestions of what they might use?\n: \nI don't know the answer to your question, but I am sure Rogers Cable can so\nI tool the libery of forwarding your question to them and I am sure they\nwill be in touch. :-)","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"This question came up in Sci. Med. Nutrition and I'm posting my answer \nhere.  Only 22 medical schools in the U.S. teach courses on human \nnutrition.  We have already seen what a lack of nutrition education can do \nwhen candida and kidney stones present themselves to the medical community.\nI think that the best example of where U.S. medicine is really missing the \nmark when it comes to a knowledge of nutrition is PMS.  So many women(and \ntheir husbands) suffer from this disorder that it is really criminal that \nmost physicians in the U.S. are not taught that PMS is primarily caused by \ndiet and diet changes can prevent it from ever happpening.  Before shooting \nyour flames, read the entire article and then decide if flaming is \njustified.\n\nFrom A Poster In Sci. Medi. Nutrition:\nside-tracked with candida.  PMS is a lot like Candida blooms, most \nphysicians don't recognize it as a specific \"disease\" entity.  Here is \neverything that you would ever want to know about PMS.\n\nPremenstrual syndrome has been divided into four specific subgroups:\n\n\tPMT-A(Anxiety)\t\tPMT-D(depression)\n\tanxiety\t\t\tdepression\n\tirritability\t\tforgetfulness\n\tinsomnia\t\tconfusion\n\tdepression\t\tlethargy\n\n\tPMT-C(Craving)\t\tPMT-H(Hyperhydration)\n\tcraving for sweets\tweight gain\n\tincreased appetite\tbreast congestion and tenderness\n\tsugar ingestion causes: abdominal bloating and tenderness\n\t 1. headache\t\tedema of the face and extremities\n\t 2. palpitations\n\t 3. fatigue or fainting\n \nPMT-A is characterized by elevated blood estrogen levels and low \nprogesterone levels during the luteal phase of a women's cycle.\n\nPMT-C is caused by the ingestion of large amounts of refined simple \ncarbohydrates.  During the luteal phase of a women's cycle, there is \nincreased glucose tolerance with a flat glucose curve after oral glucose \nchallenge.  The metabolic findings believed to be responsible for PMT-C are \na low magnesium and a low prostaglandin E1.  This condition of hypoglycemia \nis not unique to PMS but there are a number of different causes of \nhypoglycemia, magnesium and PGE1 seem to be specific to PMS hypoglycemia.\n\tA. Am. J. Psychiatry 147(4):477-80(1990).\nUnrefined complex carbohydrate should be substituted for sugar, magnesium \nsupplementation and alpha linoleic acid supplementation(increased to 5-6% of \nthe total calories) using safflower oil or evening primrose oil as sources \nof alpha linoleic acid.\n\nPMT-D is characterized by elevated progesterone levels during the midluteal \nphase of a women's cycle.  Another cause of PMT-D has been found to be lead \ntoxicity(in women without elevated progesterone levels during the midluteal \nphase). \"Effect of metal ions on the binding of estridol to human \nendometrial cystol\" Fertil. Steril. 28:312-18(1972).\n\nPMT-H is associated with water and salt retention along with an elevated \nserum aldosterone level.  Salt restriction, B6, magnesium and vitamin E \nfor breast tenderness have all been effective in treating PMT-H\n\nThis general discussion of the PMS syndromes came form:\n\n\tA. \"Management of the premenstrual tension sundromes: Rational for \n\t    a nutritional approach\". 1986, A Year in Nutritional Medicine. \n\t    J. Bland, Ed. Keats, Publishing, 1986.\n\n\tB. \"Nutritional factors in the etiology of premenstrual tension \n\t    syndromes\", J. Reprod. Med.28(7):446-64(1983).\n\n\tC. \"Premenstrual tension\", Prob. Obstet. Gynecol. 3(12):1-39(1980)\n\nTreatment has traditionally involved progesterone administration if you can \nfind a doctor who will treat you for PMS(just about as hard as finding one \nthat will treat you for candida blooms).  While progesterone will work, \nsupplementation with vitamins and minerals works even better.  There really \nhas been an awful lot of research done on PMS(much more than candida \nblooms).  Many of these studies have been what are called experimental \ncontrolled studies(the type of rigorous clinical studies that doctors like to \nsee done).\n\nHere are a few of these studies:\n\n\tCARBOHYDRATE: Experimental Controlled Study, \"Effect of a low-fat, \n\thigh-carbohydrate diet on symptoms of cyclical mastopathy\" Lancet \n\t2:128-32(1988).  21 pts with severe persistent cyclical mastopathy \n\tof at least 5 years duration were randomly selected to receive \n\tspecific training to reduce dietary fat to 15% of total calories \n\tand increase complex carbohydrate ingestion or given general dietary \n\tadvise with no training.  After 6 months, there was a significant \n\treduction in the severity of the breast swelling and tenderness in \n\tthe trained group as reported by self-reported symptoms as well as \n\tphysical exams which quantitated the degree of breast swelling, \n\ttenderness and nodularity.\n\n\tVITAMIN A: Experimental Controlled Study, \"The use of Vitamin A in \n\tpremenstrual tension\" Acta Obstet. Gynecol Scand. 39:586-92(1960).  \n\t218 pts with severe recurring PMS received 200,000 to 300,000IU \n\tvitamin A daily or a placebo.  Serum retinol levels were monitored \n\tand high dose supplementation was discontinued when evidence of \n\ttoxicity occured(serum retinol above 450ug\/ml).  The intent of the \n\tstudy was to load the liver up with vitamin A and get a normal pool \n\tsize(500,000IU to 1,000,000IU) and then see if this \n\tnormal vitamin A pool could prevent PMS.  48% getting the high dose \n\tvitamin A had complete remission of the symptoms of PMS.  Only 10% \n\tgetting the placebo reported getting complete relief of PMS sysmptoms.\n  \t10% of the vitamin A treated group reported no improvement in PMS \n\tsymptoms.\n\n\tExperimental Controlled Study, \"Premenstrual tension treated with \n\tvitamin A\" J. Clinical Endocrinology 10:1579-89(1950). 30 pts \n\treceived 200,000IU of vitamin A daily starting on day 15 of their \n\tcycle with supplementation continuing until the onset of PMS symptoms.\n  \tAfter 2-6 months, all 30 pts reported a significant improvement in \n\tPMS symptoms.  Vitamin A supplementation was stopped once evidence of \n\ttoxicity was demonstrated and all 30 pts were followed for one year \n\tafter high dose vitamin A supplementation was stopped.  PMS symptoms \n\tdid not reoccur in any of these 30 pts for upto one year after the \n\tvitamin A supplementation was stopped.\n\nMost Americans do not have a normal store of vitamin A in their liver.  \nThese studies and several others were designed to see if getting a normal \nstore of vitamin A into the liver could eliminate PMS.  Of all the vitamins \ngiven for PMS(vitamin A, B6, and vitamin E), vitamin A has shown the best \nsingle effect.  This is probably because vitamin A is involved in steroid \n(estrogen\/progesterone) metabolism in the liver.  Getting your liver full \nof vitamin A seems to be one of the best things that you can do to prevent \nthe symptoms of PMS.  But vitamin A is toxic and you don't want to be trying \nto do this without being seen by a physician who can monitor you for vitamin \nA toxicity.\n\n\tVITAMIN B6: Experimental Double-blind Crossoverr Study, \"Pyridoxine\n\t(vitamin B6) and the premenstrual syndrome: A randomized crossover \n\ttrial\"J.R. Coll. Gen. Pract. 39:364-68(1989).  32 women aged 18-49 \n\twith moderate to severe PMS randomly received 50mg B6 daily or placebo.\n  \tAfter 3 months the groups were switched and followed for another \n\t3 months.  B6 had a significant effect on the emotional aspects of \n\tPMS(depression, irritability and tiredness).  Other symptoms of PMS \n\twere not significanttly affected by B6 supplementation.\n\n\tExperimental Double-blind Study, \"The efects of vitamin B6 \n\tsupplementation on premenstrual sysmptoms\" Obstet. Gynecol \n\t70(2):145-49(1987).  55 pts with moderate to severe PMS received \n\t150mg B6 daily or placebo for 2 months.  Analysis of convergence \n\tshowed that B6 significantly improved premenstrual symptoms related \n\tto the autonomic nervous system(dizziness and vomiting) as well as \n\tbehavior changes(poor mental performance, decreased social interaction)\n  \tAnxiety, depression and water retention were not improved by B6 \n\tsupplementation.\n\nVitamin B6 is below the RDA for both American men and women.  Birth control \npills and over 40 different drugs increase the B6 requirement in man.  \nWomen on birth control pills should be supplemented with 10-15 mg of B6 per \nday.  The dose should be increased if symptoms of PMS appear.  Dr. David R. \nRubinow who heads the biological psychiatry branch of NIMH was quoted in \nClin. Psychiatry News, December, 1987 as stating that B6 should be \nconsidered the \"first-line\" drug for PMS(over progesterone) and if the \npatient does not respond, then other treatments should be tried.  Vitamin \nB6 can be toxic(nerve damage) if consumed in doses of 500mg or more each \nday. \n\n\n\tVITAMIN E: Experimental Double-blind Study, \"Efficacy of alpha-\n\ttocopherol in the treatment of premenstrual syndrome\" J. Reprod. \n\tMed. 32(6):400-04(1987). 35 pts received 400IU vitamin E daily for 3 \n\tcycles or a placebo.  Vitamin E treated pts had 33% who reported a \n\tsignificant reduction in physical symptoms(weight gain and breast \n\ttenderness) while the placebo group had 14% who reported a significant\n \treduction in physical symptoms. The vitamin E group reported that 38% \n\thad a significant reduction in anxiety versus 12% for the placebo \n\tgroup.  For depression, the vitamin E group had 27% with a significant\n\tdecrease in depression compared with 8% for the placebo group.\n\n\tExperimental Double-blind Study, \"The effect of alpha-tocopherol on \n\tpremenstrual symptomalogy: A double blind study\" J. Am. Coll. Nutr. \n\t2(2):115-122(1983). 75pts with benign breast disease and PMT randomly \n\treceived vitamin E at 75IU, 150IU, or 300IU daily or placebo.  After \n\t2 months of supplementation, 150IU of vitamin E or higher significantly \n\timproved PMT-A and PMT-C.  The 300IU dose was needed to significantly \n\timprove PMT-D.  No dose of vitamin E significantly improved PMT-H\n\t(other studies have shown that a higher vitamin E doses will relieve \n\tPMT-H symptoms).\n\t\n\tMAGNESIUM: Experimental Double-blind Study, \"Magnesium prophylaxis \n\tof menstrual migraine: effects on itracellular magnesium\" Headache \n\t31:298-304(1991). 20 pts with perimenstrual headache received 360 mg \n\tdaily of magnesium as magnesium pyrrolidone carboxylic acid or a \n\tplacebo.  Treatment was started on the 15th day of the cycle and \n\tcontinued until menstruation. After 2 months, the Pain Total Index \n\twas significantly lower in the magnesium group.  Magnesium treatment \n\twas also assocoiated with a significant reduction in the Menstrual \n\tDistress Questionnaire scores.  Pretreatment magnesium levels in  \n\tlymphocytes and polymorphonuclear leukocytes were significantly lower \n\tin this group of 20 pts compared to control women who did not suffer \n\tfrom PMS.  After treatment, magnesium levels in these cells was raised \n\tinto the normal range.\n\n\tExperimental Double-blind Study, \"Oral Magnesium successfully \n\trelieves premenstrual mood changes\" Obstet. Gynecol 78(2):177-81(1991). \n\t32pts aged 24-39 randomly received either magnesium carboxylic acid \n\t360mg of Mg per day or a placebo from the 15th day of the cycle to the \n\tonset of the menstrual flow.  After 2 cycles, both groups received \n\tmagnesium.  The Menstrual Distress Questionnaire score of the cluster \n\tpain was significantly reduced during the second cycle(month) for the \n\tmagnesium treatment group as well as the placebo group once they were \n\tswitched to magnesium supplementation.  In addition, the total score on \n\tthe Menstrual Distress Questionnaire was significantly decreased by \n\tmagnesium supplementation.  The authors suggest that magnesium \n\tsupplemenation should become a routine treatment for the mood changes \n\tthat occur during PMS.\n\nThere are numerous observational studies that have been published in the \nmedical literature which also suggest that PMS is primarily a disorder \nthat arises out of a hormone imbalance that is dietary in nature.  But \nsince observational studies are considered by most physicians in Sci. Med. \nto be anecdotal in nature, I have not bothered to cite them.  There are \nalso over a half dozen good experimental studies that have been done on \nmultivitamin and mineral supplementation to prevent PMS.  I've chosen the \nbest specific studies on individual vitamins and minerals to try to point out \nthat PMS is primarily a nutritional disorder.  But doctors don't recognize \nnutritional disorders unless they can see clinical pathology(beri-beri, \npellagra, scruvy, etc.).  PMS is probably the best reason why every doctor \nbeing trained in the U.S. should get a good course on human nutrition.  PMS \nis really only the tip if the iceberg when it comes to nutritional \ndisorders.  It's time that medicine woke up and smelled the roses.\n\nHere's some studies which show the importance in multivitamin\/mineral \nsupplementation and\/or diet change in preventing PMS.\n\n\tExperimental Study, \"Effect of a nutritional programme on \n\tpremenstrual syndrome: a retrospective analysis\", Complement. Med. \n\tRes.5(1):8-11(1991).  200pts were given dietary instructions and \n\tsupplemented with Optivite(R) plus additional vitamin C, vitamin E, \n\tmagnesium, zinc and primrose oil.  The dietary instructions were to \n\ttake the supplements and switch to a low fat, complex carbohydrate \n\tdiet.  On a retrospective analysis, 96.5% of the 200pts reported an \n\timprovement in their PMS symptoms with 30% of the sample stating that \n\tthey no longer suffered from PMS. \n\n\n\tExperimental Double-blind Study, \"Role of Nutrition in managing \n\tpremenstrual tension syndromes\", J Reprod. Med. 32(6):405-22(1987).  \n\tA low fat, high complex carbohydrate diet along with Optivite \n\tsupplementation significantly decreased PMS scores compared with diet \n\tchange and placebo.  After 6 months on the experimental program, the \n\tvitamin\/mineral supplementated group had significantly decreased \n\testradiol and increased progesterone in serum during the midlutel \n\tphase of their cycle.\n\n\tExperimental Double-blind Study, \"Clinical and biochemical effects \n\tof nutritional supplementation on the premenstrual syndrome\", J. \n\tReprod. Med. 32(6):435-41(1987). 119pts randomly given Optivite(12 \n\ttablets per day) or a placebo.  The treated groups showed a \n\tsignificant decrease in PMS symptoms compared to the placebo.  Another\n \tgroup of 104pts got Optivite(4 tablets per day) or placebo.  For this \n\tsecond group of patients, no significant effect of supplementation on \n\tPMS symptoms was observed.\n\nMartin Banschbach, Ph.D.\nProfessor of Biochemistry and Chairman\nDepartment of Biochemistry and Microbiology\nOSU College of Osteopathic Medicine\n1111 W. 17th St.\nTulsa, Ok 74107","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Please excuse the length of this post, but for personal reasons, \nI must go on at some length.\n\n    [...more deleted...]\n\n    Perhaps it would be instructive to see what my original post had\nto say:\n\n     [followed by my signature]\n\n    I was extremely careful in this posting not to say anything which\nwas not factual.  I made no judgement about Hitching or the quality of \nthe quotation attributed to him.  I have not read any of the books \nlisted (although I did glimpse briefly at \"Earth Magic\", I saw nothing \nthat I would care to comment on).  It was solely in response to an\ninquiry by Warren about Hitching, and your assertion that he is a\npaleontologist.  I do not know whether he is or is not a paleontologist.\nI do not claim to know anything about him, except this listing of his\npublications.\n\n    However, I get the decided impression that I am being included\namong the \"Branch Atheists\" on the basis of this post.  If that \nimpression is mistaken, please let me know.  Otherwise, I should let\nyou know that the implications are very offensive to me, and I \nwould certainly appreciate a clarification of your posting.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Does it\nin\nthe\nI have had a Nikon L35AW since 1988. Unfortunately it is no longer\nmade. It is a P & S sealed to resist water to a depth of 12 feet. It\nis not really an underwater camera but it has been great in wet and\ndusty conditions. It takes AA batteries (hooray). It has the solid,\nheavy feel of old-style Nikons and has taken all the abuse I have\nbeen able to give it. This includes a lot of water (rain, river and\nsea), desert and beach sand as well as being used as a weapon\nagainst a mugger. Shouting and swinging the camera by the strap\ndidn't scare the mugger away, hitting him with the flying camera\ndid. This is my, \"never be without a camera\" camera. The current\nwater-resistant (Sport Touch I think is the name) model is nothing\nlike as solid or well sealed.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Hi,  I have a few questions about laying out a PCB. I am using easytrax for dos\nwhich is a great program. But what my question is When laying out traces what\nthickness should they be? I am mainly designing low voltage low current boards\nfor micro controller apps. What should pad sizes be for resistors? I will be\nturning to a commercial PCB maker to produce 1's of these boards and I was\nwondering what is the minimum distance traces should be from each other. Well\nany info would be great. Thanks.\n                                                 Anton\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n[snip]\n\n\nANYTHING you store in there will eventually cause some discomfort over\ntime.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\ned>1.  All of us that argue about gyroscopes, etc., throughly understand\ned>the technique of countersteering.\n\nme>Including all the ones who think that they countersteer all the way\nme>through a corner??\n\ned>Well... all the way through a decreasing-radius corner, anyway...\n\nMaybe they are riding around an ever-decreasing circle of lies which\neventually leads to the truth....\n\n\n\nme>The official line here (though I do have my doubts about it) is that the\nme>front brake is applied first, followed by the rear brake, the idea being\nme>that you avoid locking up the rear after weight transfer takes place. \n\n\nMe too, though unfortunately the \"Official Line\" is the one that you\nhave to adhere to if you want to get a full licence. The examiner's\nguidelines are laid down by the government, and the basic rider education\ncourses have no choice but to follow them. It surprises me that none of the\nrider groups here, either MAG or the BMF make much noise about the fact that\nthe riding test requires you to ride three feet from the kerb all the time\nin order to pass, that the front brake must be applied before the rear, that\nyou have to keep looking over your shoulder all the time (instead of just\nwhen it is justified) - there's probably a few more too, which I can't\nthink of for the moment. If the riding test could be rejigged a bit \nto include more of the real-world survival skills and less of the \nwoefully simplistic crap that it contains now, then the accident figures\nwould (imho) reduce still further.\n\nDon't think we should include countersteering knowledge in our test though...","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"   Brian, it doesn't offend me if you decide to reject Jesus\n   Christ.  I only wish you would make that decision after you\n   learn who Jesus is.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nI know of at least one ftp-site from which you can download the cracks of\nabout any commercial game in existence. The names of the companies (yes,\ncompanies!) are also blatantly advertised with the crack codes. According to\nthem, it is not illegal (at least in the USA, according to a statute or \nsomething) to remove the copy protection from any program. The only condition\nis that you may only use this code on legally owned software for your own\nconvenience.\n\nIf there is any interest I will download the advertisement of one such \ncompany. I will not give the name of this ftp-site to anyone, even if only\nto protect the companies which wrote the original games.\n\nDISCLAIMER: I do not condone the use or cracking of any programs. I believe \nit hurts the industry and individuals in the long run.\n\nOn the subject of copy protection: Most pirates don't give a damn about \nusing software on which the name of the registered owner came up on starting \nthe program. They just don't have a conscience.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nThat has not been demonstrated.  Had he come to trial, there was a very real\npossibility that Koresh would have gotten an acquittal on grounds of self-\ndefense.  All survivors of the debacle have sworn that the BATF shot first.\n\n\nThey \"rang the doorbell\" using a concussion grenade!  And if the bloody\nwarrants were \"legal\" then why were they _sealed_ after the fight started?\nAnd if Koresh had declared himself a \"private state\" and was just daring the\ngov't to go in, then why did he surrender last year to a local sheriff who\nserved a warrant _for_his_arrest_ (as opposed to the BATF search warrant,\nwhich did not include arrest unless violations were found) by just calling\nhim up to tell him and then going out to collect him with his squad car?\nThat doesn't sound like a dictator to me, it sounds like someone who knows\nhe has a court battle.  Things might have gone very differently if the BATF\n_had_ \"rung the doorbell\".\n\n\nThis is stupid.  That is no paranoid assertion, it is testamony from surviving\nwitnesses, and the BATF _has_ no tanks, nor am I aware of either the BATF _or_\nthe FBI using any until yesterday.  When they use maximum force they do just\nwhat they did that first day that got four officers killed.\n\n\n\"Underarmed\"?  You flabberghast me, they were loaded for bear and every\npicture shows them wearing bullet-proof vests!  They were using concussion\ngrenades and full-auto weapons, what was missing low-yield tac-nukes?  This\nis a transparent attempt to retcon a justification for the ridiculous amount\nof force used, both initially and yesterday.  You should be ashamed.\n\n\nThey _had_ a sure-fire method: keep them bottled up and talk them to death or\nsurrender without giving him justification for some looney-tune religious\nstunt.\n\nPhil, I've been reading your postings for months and I'm convinced that you\nwill back anything, no matter how damaging it may be to yours or anyone\nelse's rights if you think it will hurt people you don't like.  It's people\nwith that attitude that set up the preconditions for the Holocaust, a process\nthat is in place _now_ in this country, even if the tattered, pitiful remains\nof the Constitution is slowing its progress.  This isn't a Libertarian issue,\nothers may argue that line, but from a strictly Constitutional view of a\ndemocratic gov't, what the FBI and BATF did was wrong, wrong, wrong, even if\ntheir _reasons_ for trying to arrest Koresh were 100% right.  _Anything_ that\nleads to the deaths of 17 children, if nothing else touches your stoney\nheart, is _wrong_ no matter who pushed the button.  For God's sake, man, get\nyour morality back.\n\nLarry Smith (smith@ctron.com)  No, I don't speak for Cabletron.  Need you ask?","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
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{"text":"I need some advice regarding monitor to use with Xfree86. I have an ET4000\nbased graphic card with 1 Meg of memory. I know this card is supported in\nXfree86 because a friend of mine has one of these in his PC. His monitor is\n17\" colour capable of displaying 1280x1024 resolution. I cant afford this kind\nof expensive monitor. I heard from somewhere that Xfree86 requires multisync\nmonitor with minimum horizontal scan frequency of 60KHz. Is this true?\nI would only like to use Xfree86 at resolution of 800x600 in 256 colours and\nso was thinking of buying a cheap 14\" SVGA monitor. Interlaced (Cheap)14\" SVGA \nmonitors only have have maximum horizontal scan frequency of about 38KHz.\nWill this kind of monitor work with Xfree86? \n\nPlease reply by email.\n\nThaks in advance.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nOh no! Oh no!  They've taken over comp.windows.misc and now THEY'RE\nCOMING FOR US!\n\n  --berry\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nIt's not true.  IDE bus uses signals which has similar name and same\nmeaning to the counterpart of ISA bus but its (IDE bus) signal timing\ndoesn't have to be same to ISA signal timing.  My VL-IDE bus card has\na set of jumpers to set its transfer rate from 3.3MB\/sec up to 8.3MB\/\nsec (the manufacturer might have to correct these numbers as 3.3\n*milion* byte\/sec and 8.3 *milion* byte\/sec respectively).   You\ncannot transfer data at a rate of 8.3MB\/sec on the ISA bus.\n\n\nKen Nakata","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI've done all those things, and I've regretted it, and I learned \na lesson or two. So far an aspirin, a good talk with your wife,\nor a one week vacation has cured me -- no need for group therapy\nor strange religions!\n\nCheers,\nKent","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nWhere in the world did you get this? Please read history books before\nyou start talking something\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
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{"text":"Word 2.0c doesn't show the period-centred character to indicate\nspaces if I use the TTFonts from CorelDraw.  Our editors need to\nbe able to see how many spaces are in text but the character \ndisplayed is a large hollow box.  They overlap each other and\ncharacters on each side, which is useless.\n\nI believe the character used by W4W is the period-centred (0183).\nThis character shows up with the windows Charmap display as the\nhollow box which tends to confirm this.  I have edited the corel\nfont with Fontmonger and changing the font graphics for the 0183\ncharacter makes no difference to the font output in Charmap or W4W.\nAltering the paragraph (0182) or cedilla (0184) does alter their font\ngraphics displayed however!!\n\nIs the W4W character used to indicate spaces the period-centred character? \n\nHas anyone been able to get this character displayed from a CorelDraw TTF?\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Tony,  I believe, first of all, that Max's car is an Austrailian\nbuilt car.  I don't think its a chopped up U.S. unit.  It may be called a\nKangaroo or Roo or something similar-not sure.  But, I do recall reading\nthat Austrailian cars used Ford V-8 engines.  The Ford V-8 Interceptor\nis, I think, a 428 c.i. cop car motor.  Whatever the case that small car\nwith a screaming big block Ford 428 would probably smoke the tires for\nmiles\/kilometers.  I hope someone out there can elaborate on the subject.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Hi:\nOn the 1024x768x256 mode, the font sizes of Window Menu, Help Window are very \nsmall. Can I change the font and font size for these windows? My computer is \n80486 DX-33, the Video Card is ATI D24. Could some experts please email the \nanswer to GRZHENG@vax2.Concondia.ca. Thanks in advance.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n \nI believe the NHL Draft is on or the June 18th weekend.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nThere are other laws and directives which bear upon the subject.  For\nexample, the National Computer Security Act of 1987 specifically directs\nNBS [sic] to work with NSA on developing security standards for civilian\nFederal computers.  (Pick up the bill from cpsr.org; it also includes\na report describing it, and some of the legislative history, including\nconcerns about NSA's involvement.)  Note also that NSA is specifically\ncharged with running the National Computer Security Center,  -- to\nquote the aforementioned report -- ``NSA also will work with industries at\nthe DOD Computer Security Center to develop security standards for private\nsector use.''","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nOnce the Rushdie situation exploded into the media, the Muslim voice on\nthe matter of the book was effectively restricted to short video bytes\nshowing\nthe dramatic highlights of Muslim demonstrations. For every twenty or so\nnewspaper, magazine articles, interviews etc. supporting Rushdie, there\nwould\nappear one Muslim voice. This person was usually selected based on how\ndramatic and incoherent he was, not on his knowledge of Islam or the\nsituation at the time. This approx. twenty to one ratio continued\nthroughout the escalation of the crisis, with Rushdie in the central\nspotlight as the man of the moment, the valiant defender of everyman's\nright to free speech decoupled from responsibility. (As an aside, it's\ninteresting that while the hue and cry about freedom of speech went up,\nsome books (defaming certain ethnic and religious groups) continued\nto be banned here. It was felt that they injured the sensibilities of these\n\ngroups and presented a false image which could promote feelings of \nhate towards these groups. For Muslims this kind of double standard \nwas annoying.)\n\nRushdie saw this spotlight as a golden opportunity to lash out at\n\"organized\"\nIslam, and he did so with admirable verbal skill. The only kind of Islam\nwhich Rushdie finds palatable is what he calls a \"secular\" Islam - an Islam\nseparated from it's Qur'an, it's Prophet, God, its legislation, and most\nimportantly from any intrusion into any political arena. Fine - Rushdie\nmade\nhis views known - the Muslim's made their anger at his book known. The\nscale of the whole affair erupted into global proportions - it was, by this\ntime,\nalready a political situation - affecting governments as well as\nindividuals.\nThe situation was a serious one, with far-reaching political implications.\nAt the centre of this turmoil was Rushdie, throwing fuel on the fire -\nengaged\nin a personal crusade that made him oblivious to any sense of caution.\n\nNow you may feel that the person in the centre of a worldwide storm such as\n\nthis has no responsibility, has no reason to exercise restraint of any\nkind, has no\nobligation to perhaps step back momentarily out of the spotlight till\nmatters calm down. Perhaps you even feel that he is justified in \"boldly\"\ndefying the anger of all those who dare to take umbrage at his literary\nwork, no matter what insult they find within it. Perhaps you see him as\na kind of secular \"heroic Knight\",mounted on the his media steed,\n doing battle with the \"dragon\" of Islamic \"fundamentalism\".\n\nWell Khomeini saw him as a disingeneous author who \ngrew up in a Muslim atmosphere, knew well what Muslim's hold dear, \nwho wrote a book which mischievously uses certain literary conventions\nto slander, insult, and attack Islam and its most notable personalities -\nwho, when\nfaced with a situation that became a worldwide crisis, continued with\nhis mischief in the world stage of the media - who, even after people were\ninjured and killed because of the magnitude and emotion of the situation,\ncontinued his mischief, instead of having the good sense to desist.\nKhomeini saw the crisis as mischief making on a grand scale, mischief\nmaking that grew in scale as the scale of the crisis enlarged. The deaths\nof Muslims around the world and Rushdie's continued media mischief\neven after this, was the triggering factor that seemed to\ndecide Khomeini on putting a stop to the mischief. The person at the\ncentre of all these events was Rushdie - he was the source of the\ncontinuing mischief - all media support, government support was\njust that - support. The source was Rushdie (and his publishers, who\nwere nothing short of ecstatic at the publicity and were very happy\nto see Rushdie constantly in the media). The Islamic rulings that\ndeal with people who engage in this kind of grand-scale mischief\nmaking, was applied to Rushdie.\n\n\nI have made no attempts at justification, only at explanation. \"Image\" is\nthe chief concern of Muslim 'apologists' for Islam and for Rushdie.\nIf Muslims willingly relegated themselves to becoming a sub-culture\nwithin a larger secular culture, such that the secular principles and laws\nhad precedence over the laws of Islam - then I have no doubt that Islam\nwould then be thought to have a good \"image\" (Principally because it would\nby and large reflect the secular image). A \"good image\" usually means \" be\nmore\nlike me\".\n\nYour attempts at TOTALLY exonerating Rushdie reflect exactly the attitude\nthat\nresulted in the polarization brought about by the crisis.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Does any one out there have experience with Planet X, I am\nconsidering buying it to use on a SPARCstation IPC, in this\nway I can run Mac programs from the SPARC.\n\nWould you recommend buying this piece of Software and what is\nthe emulation on the SPARC like?  Does it give a window of a\nMac or does it give a window of just the individual programs?\n\nAny information would be greatly appreciated.\n\nThanks,\n\nDean","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"-- \nIn the R5 file fix-01 there is the line that reads as the subject\nline here.  I don't see a file fix-00.  When I got a few Hmmm...\nlines putting on fix-01, it made me wonder if I has missed 00.\nAm I off the mark?\n\nThank you.  \n======================================================================\nRay Stell\t\tstellr@smyrna.cc.vt.edu\t\t(703) 231-4109","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n    Performa 405 = LCII 4\/80 with Monitor, modem and software.\n    Performa 430 = LCII 4\/120 w\/ Monitor, modem and software.\n\n\n    Performa 450 = LCIII with Monitor, modem and software.\n    Do we detect a trend here people...\n\n\n    The Performas are made to be low-cost, widely distributed (sold at\nSears) home machines, not business machines. They were developed to\ncompete with the retail outlet home computer market.\n\n\n    Sears is probably going to have the best price around, most of the\ntime, based on the number they can purchase and stuff like that.\n\n\n    Not really. The newer Peformas (405, 430, 450) come with what is\nreally a third party monitor that Apple has put their name on and\ncalled it the Performa Plus display. Essentially it is a VGA monitor,\nquite cheap.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I don't actually have the answer to this one.\n\nBosio, after walking the first two batters, retired 27-straight for a\n\"back-end\" perfect game.\n\nHow many other games - including extra inning games - have seen a pitcher\nretire 27 straight, excluding official perfect games?\n\nThe only other instance of this I know about for sure is the famous Ernie\nShore game, which counts as a perfect one according to those goons in\nCooperstown. Shore came into the game when Boston Pitcher Babe Ruth got\nthrown out for arguing over the first-batter walk; Shore picked him off and\nretired 26 straight after that.\n\nMatt Wall * wall@cc.swarthmore.edu * Hey, I gotta job here, OK?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nFunny . . . I and most of the detector-owning friends I have, are  \ngenerally able to *REMEMBER* such things as nearby microwave towers and  \nradar detectors going off in EXACTLY the same spon EVERY DAY . . ..\n\nI know on I-64 at the Grayson, KY exit, there's a store just off the side  \nof the road (think it's a Liquor store . . .) with what must be a security  \nsystem that would make most federal prisons proud.  It's the only thing  \nI've ever driven by (besides a cop) that puts my Whistler in \"Oh my God  \nhe's Right Behind You!!!!\" mode . . ..  I simply ignore the detector and  \nuse my eyes when I drive by that store . . . 40 seconds later, all's quiet  \non the front and no problem.\n\n\n:-) :-)","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"[On secrecy in LDS ceremonies.  --clh]","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Sorry. My friend's address who wants the faq and info is\njjsulliv@colby.edu\nSorry about that folks.\nJody\n-- \n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nJody Rebecca\t\tColby College\t\tMajors: History\/Sociology\n\t\t\tClass o' '94            \nE-Mail:  jrgould@colby.edu\n\t samuel@paul.rutgers.edu\n\nFantasy, Music, Colors, and Animals will lead this society out of oppression.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Hi, It's time to clean my shelf, all price include shipping, so you don't\nhave to worry about it, just pay the amount you see.\n\n\nName                        Cover     Publisher       Year   Origin   Now\n----\t\t            -----     ---------       ----   ------   --- \n\nThe Ultimate DOS            Heavy\nProgrammer's Manual         Hard      WindCrest       1991    $50     $25\n\nBit-Mapped Graphics         Hard      WindCrest       1990    $50     $25\n\nAlgorithms in C             Hard      Addison-Wesley  1990    $45     $25\n\nFile Structure              Hard      Addison-Wesley  1988    $36     $20\n\nProgramming with\nData Structure\n(Pascal Version)            Soft      Prentice Hall   1989    $?      $10\n\nDigital Design              Hard      Wiley           1989    $51     $30\n\nNumerical Analysis          Hard      PWS-KENT        1990    $50     $25\n\n                            W. Disk   \nBatch files to Go           Soft      McGraw-Hill     1992    $35     $25      \n            \nAdvanced Batch              W. Disk\nFile Programming            Soft      Mcgraw-Hill     1992    $30     $20\n\nComputer Graphics \nPrinciple and               Heavy \nPractice                    Hard      Addison-Wesley  1992    $65     $40\n\nStructure and \nInterpreter of\nComputer Program            Hard      Macgraw-Hill    1991    $40     $20\n\nC: An Advanced\n   Introduction             Hard      Bell Tele Lab   1989    $40     $15\n\nBuilding C Library          Soft      WindCrest       1991    $25     $15\n\nX Window System\nC Lib and Protocol\nReference                   Soft      Digital press   1992    $?      $25      \n\nOh!  Pascal!                Soft      W.W. Norton     1986    $?      $10\n\nDifferential \nEquation                    Hard      PWS-KENT        1990    $55     $15\n\nApplied Discrete \nStructure for\nComputer Science            Hard      MacMillan       1993    $45     $25\n\nProgramming in C++          Soft      Prentice Hall   1990    $28     $15\n\nUsing WordPerfect 5.0       Soft      Houghton        1989    $8      free with\n                                                                      purchase\n\nLinear Algebra              Hard      Addison-Wesley  1991    $50     $30\n\n\nDEC Station                 W. Disks\nMS-DOS 3.30.01              Binders\nand GW-BASIC                Box       Digital         ?       ?       $20\n\n***************************************************************************\n\nThe Big Gray Book: The next Step with ULTRIX\nUltrix\/SQL Net User's Guide\n           Database Adminstrator's Guide\n           Reference Manual\n           Error Message Dictionary\n           Operation Guide\nGuide to Diskless Management Services\nGuide to Server Setup\nGuide to Remote Installation Service\nGuide to BIND\/Hesiod Service\nGuide to the Network File System\nGuide to Ethernet Communication Servers\nIntroduction to Networking and Distributed System Service\nGuide to the Yellow Page Service\nGuide to Backup and Restore\nGuide to Shutdown and Startup\nGuide to Disk Maintenance\nGuide to Kerberos\nGudie to the uucp Utility\nGuide to IBM Terminal Emulation for VAX Processors\nGuide to Configuration File Maintenance\nGuide to SCAMP\nGuide to Printer Clients\nGuide to Adminstrator's security\nGuide to the Location Broker\nGuide to System and Network Setup\nGuide to System Environment Setup\nGuide to Software Licensing\nGuide to System Exercise\nGuide to Error Logger\nGuide to System Crash Recovery\nGuide to the Nawk Utility\nSecurity Guide for the users\nKernal Message reference Manual\nReference Page\nSection 4: Special Files\n        5: File Formats\n        7: Macro Package and Conventions\n\nAsking for $100\/obo, it's pretty heavy though.  ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
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{"text":"\n\nSaab Sonnet III too I believe.\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nWhat I mean is what I said.   \"What I want\" does not automatically\ntranslate into \"what I think is right.\"   That is, it does not \ntranslate that way for me.\n\nIf you reply that \"I think it is ok to kill you because that is what \nI decided\" then what that means is that for you \"What I want\" does\ntranslate into \"what I think is right\".\n\nIt just doesn't translate that way for me.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\n[underlining mine\/Quean Lutibelle]\n\n\nYes, those who apply it hatefully would be better served if they if\nthey could alter the Bible to reflect their views:\n\nScene 1:  A well in Samaria:\n\nWoman:  But I have no husband.\nJesus:  Yo!  Everybody!  Listen up!  Get your rocks ready!  We'll have\n        some good biblical fun.  Here she is whispering to me that\n        she doesn't have a husband, yet I know by my secret powers that\n        she has had five of them!  (You know how these Samaritans are!\n        And worse, she's living with a guy now that she's not even married\n        to.  Now I believe in loving her, and if you'll just raise up\n        those rocks like the bible allows and threaten her with a good\n        stoning, she'll understand how much we hate the sin but love\n        the sinner.   We must keep our priorities strait, lest folks\n        2,000 years from now misunderstand me and believe I canceled\n        all sin!\n\nScene 2:  Golgatha\n\n2nd Thief:  You got a raw deal, man.  They didn't catch you doing anything\n            wrong like they caught me.\n\nBleeding Jesus:  Now, son.  Let me be real clear.  You say you did something\n            wrong, but are you repenting?  I need to be absolutely certain\n            cause if you repent, I have a nice room for you in heaven,\n            but if you think you might go thieving again, I have to\n            cancel your reservation.  It is nice of you to have pity on\n            me while I'm hanging here, but you must understand, this is\n            all an act; I'm not really hurting.  I'm God, you see.  And\n            the point of all this is to teach you to be perfect like me.\n            If you think a simple kind remark to me in suffering is going\n            to get you any favors, you'd better think twice!  But if you\n            will just REPENT, you will become a Fundelical in Good \n            Standing.\n\nFrom all such Bad News, you have delivered us, Good God!  Thank you!\nThank you!  Thank you!\n\nQuean Lutibelle\/Louie\n \n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I have the Logitech hand scanner for the Mac.  It uses a SCSI\ninterface box that the standard scanner unit plugs into.  I\nhave tried my friend's IBM hand scanner with the scsi box and\nit works.  See if you can get Logitech to sell you the scsi\nbox by itself.  Warning:  most of the cost of Mac handscanners\nis contained in the scsi interface box, so it could run up\nto around $200.  When I upgraded my old style scanner to\nthe new gray scale model, it cost $75; they just gave me a new\nscan head and software; the box was the same.  The gray scale\nscanner + interface runs about $300; making it around $200 for\nthe interface.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nIt took three days to get to us, but I'll try anyway as I naturally\nhaven't seen the answer.\n\n\nSAFE. The correct call is \"Infield Fly, (batter out) if fair\". Runners\nmay advance at own risk. (Gotta tag up if caught, etc.) It is not a\nforce, and the pop was not caught, so regardless of whether the SS\ntags 3B or 2B (it wasn't clear, above), he hasn't got the runner out.\n\n\nOUT. See rule 6.05(L) APPROVED RULING. (Below). In this case, the\numpire has decided for whatever reason that the infield fly rule\ndoesn't apply. (Sounds like a bad call here, but that's not the\npoint). The batter is not out, so a force situation is created.\nTherefore, the runner is out.  ( UNLESS, by rule 6.05(L) the ball is\ndead AND the batter is safe, then I guess the runners would advance\nunmolested.  I can't really tell from 6.05(L) that the ball is dead in\nthis situation.)\n\n\nPertinent rules: 2.00 Definition of Infield Fly: \"When an Infield fly\nis called, runners may advance at their own risk. If on an infield fly\nrule, the infielder intentionally drops a fair ball, the ball remains\nin play despite the provisions of Rule 6.05(L). The Infield Fly rule\ntakes precedence.\"\n\n6.05(L) A batter is out when: an infielder intentionally drops a fair\nfly ball or line drive, with first, first and second, first and thrid,\nor first,second and third base occupied before two are out. The ball\nis dead and the runners or runners shall return to their original base\nor bases. APPROVED RULING: In this situation, the batter is not out if\nthe infielder permits the ball the drop untouched to the ground,\nexcept when the infield fly rule applies.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nNot only the Sonett (correct spelling), but the 95 wagon and 96 sedan\nused a 1500 cc or 1700 cc V-4 from Ford of Germany.  This particular\nmotor had a 60 degree vee angle, a balance shaft and siamesed exhaust\nports.  This motor was later stretched into the V-6 commonly seen in the\nCapri.\n\nThe V-4 could make pretty reasonable power for its size.  But in the\nSaab, it made too much torque for the transmission, which had been\ndesigned for a 3-cylinder 2-stroke.\n\n -- Chuck Fry, former Sonett III owner\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\t   Also,if they did come from the Oort cloud we would expect to\n   see the same from other stars Oort Clouds.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n: : bit of it, you could take the tape over to a local ham operator's house\n: : and ask him for his opinion of what you're hearing.  Most communities\n: \n: You cannot do that legally. However, you can ask a ham over to listen.\n: If the interference occurs at a specific time each day, then it would\n: be possible to do such scheduling.  If nothing else, you could invite\n: the ham over to transmit from your driveway, to see if he interferes.\n: If he does, then you probably need to have your equipment worked on to\n: make it immune to rf interference.\n\nAs a coupld of people have pointed out - this is wrong. It is not illegal\nto record or disclose what you heard on the Ham bands. ","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nWell, -I've- been reading t.p.m. for a while and here is what I saw\nYOU write:\n\n\n  >For balance, perhaps you should mention the mosques in Jerusalem that\n  >were razed after the Israeli victory in 1967.  An eye for an eye, I guess.\n\nYour statment clearly tries to \"balance\" Arab atrocities by noting a\nsingle incident by the Israelis in war-time at their most holy site.\nYou even characterize it as \"an eye for an eye\".  \n\n\n  >That would be false.  If you read your history, you will learn that\n  >right after the 1967 war, the victorious Israelis decided to raze a\n  >section of the newly captured East Jerusalem, near the Wailing Wall.\n  >It is in this section that mosques were razed.\n\nso now you have to find some source that notes that more than 1 mosque\nwas razed.  You then followed it with:\n\n  >This episode is an example of a good government running amok with\n  >newly acquired power.  \n\nReally?  Do you still feel that Israelis are comparable in the running\namok with power with, say, the Iraqis?  Your \"eye for an eye\"\ncomparisons don't match the realities that most of us are familiar\nwith.\n\n\nThis happened to be during a war!  And a fierce and mighty war it was,\ntoo.  Would you say that the Jordanians \"indiscriminately shot up\nancient structures as is their custom\" in describing bullet holes in\nthe walls of the city?  This was war!  It was certainly not any \"eye\nfor an eye\" characterstic.  Israelis do not harbor the same feelings\nof revenge as the Arabs generally do.  This is one of the reasons that\nthe Peace Now movement exists in Israel and nowhere else in the M.E.\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Someone named Hansk asked about pictures.\n\nWell, there is an archive of portraits in xfaces format at\nftp.uu.net. Henry Spencer's picture is there somewhere, along\nwith several thousand others.\n\nI don't remember the path, though it should be easy to find.\nRemember, though, it seems to use both internet and uucp\naddresses.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Don't know who scored, but the Isles (28-7 franchise record in\nplayoff OT games) took game four by a score of 4-3 for their\nthird consecutive OT win over the Capitals tonight at Uniondale.\nIf you know, please post who scored for a Isles fan living in\nAtlanta:Hockey Hell.\n\nLord Stan's a Uniondale Man!  GO ISLES!","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Did your ENT also tell you that this procedure may remove warts from the soles\nof your feet and improve your sex life?\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nSo far, you have presented your opinions as opposed to mine. I would\nhardly take them as facts.\n\n\n\nI could give you hundreds of words in my mother tongue (Spanish), that\nare comonly use and you will never find in a dictionary. Even more, I\ncould show you a lot of meanings that words in Spanish have different\nfrom those in the dictionary.\n\n\nAnd guess why. Isn't it curious that we do not know how many people define \nin how many different ways the term Jew, which is the basis of the movement \nitself?\nSo, the evidence shows that up to now, Jew, when considered in terms of Israel,\nthe Law of Return and Jewish Nationality is defined in terms of religion and\nnot of cultural identity, even if 80% of those defined as Jews in Isreal\nare not religious.\n\n\n\nThat IS a problem. I am saying that I do not support Zionism as it is\nnow. I believe that among the people in the Soviet Communist Party some\nmight even had been inspired by noble ideals. Does that change the\nfinal results of what happened in the USSR?\nIn the same way, even if the Zionist movement is not homogeneous, it\ndoes not matter. What matters is the result.\n\n\nI never said it directly nor indirectly. I am not talking about individuals\nwho defined themselves as zionists here. I am sure most of them are good,\nhonest and caring people. I am talking about the results of the Zionist\nMovement. I am talking about a Movement whose actions resulted in a\nLaw of Return with a religious definition of Jew, a country that defines\nnationality based on religion. I am talking about something I consider\na form of racism such as differenciation based on religious belief. \nAfter all, if Arabs in Israel cannot serve in the Army is becasue they \nwere not born in the \"right\" religion.\n\n\nI had never heard the definition: Only those who are religious are defined as Jews.\nI had always seen the definition: A person is a Jew is his\/her mother is\/was\na Jew, and if such person does not convert, although I had seen people\nargue about the last part.\n\n\nSo, there is no difference between citizenship and nationality in Israel?\nOr what do you mean by \"Actually, it doesn't\"?\n\n\nSo, it follows a religious definition and not a cultural one. That is what\nI call a form of racism.\n\n\nYou do not need to assume the representation of \"everybody else\" to \nmake your points. You should assume that you are just talking for yourself.\nAbout the other stuff, I still believe that the example was a valid one.\nIt would be a hypocrisy to say that one supports nationalism for all and\nthen support Zionism and then disregard the Palestinian's right.\n\n\nIt was an example. You are trying to justify something nobody has \ntalked about.\n\n\n\nReference.\n\n\nyes, but not all of them. A language is something that evolves all the time.\n\n\nNot really. I posted in another post the definition of Zionism. And, in\nthis post you have showed for me what I was telling you from the \nbegining. Zionism is a form of racism, even if most zionists are not\nracist in their individual and private lifes. A movement that ask\nfor a State and National rights for a people, and then in practice,\nthat people are defined according to religion is, for me, racist-like.\n\n\nYou did it. Next time be more careful.\n\n\nDo you know the difference between opinion and fact?\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nPSI makes an internal fax modem for the map portable (1-800-622-1722) but \nasks too much for it (retail $450). I'd buy an external and save about \n$350. \n\nthere is a manufacturer that still makes INTERNAL HD's for the portable, \nthey're listed in some of the catalog \"magazines\" for apple stuff you can \nfind at bookstores. If I see it again I'll post it. But, again, you might \nwant to just add a small lightweight external HD built for the \npowerbooks. You'd be able to use it with a new computer some day. Any \nother mac portable questions, I'll have to cry uncle.\n\nDon't blame me. I voted for XXXXXXX.\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"#In article <1r3tqo$ook@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>\n# \n#>#>|>#>#Theism is strongly correlated with irrational belief in absolutes. Irrational\n#>#>|>#>#belief in absolutes is strongly correlated with fanatism.\n#>#\n#>#(deletion)\n#>#\n#>#>|Theism is correlated with fanaticism. I have neither said that all fanatism\n#>#>|is caused by theism nor that all theism leads to fanatism. The point is,\n#>#>|theism increases the chance of becoming a fanatic. One could of course\n#>#>|argue that would be fanatics tend towards theism (for example), but I just\n#>#>|have to loook at the times in history when theism was the dominant ideology\n#>#>|to invalidate that conclusion that that is the basic mechanism behind it.\n#>#>\n#>#>IMO, the influence of Stalin, or for that matter, Ayn Rand, invalidates your\n#>#>assumption that theism is the factor to be considered.\n#>#\n#>#Bogus. I just said that theism is not the only factor for fanatism.\n#>#The point is that theism is *a* factor.\n#>\n#>That's your claim; now back it up.  I consider your argument as useful\n#>as the following:  Belief is strongly correlated with fanaticism.  Therefore\n#>belief is *a* factor in fanaticism.  True, and utterly useless.  (Note, this\n#>is *any* belief, not belief in Gods)\n#>\n# \n#Tiring to say the least. I have backed it up, read the first statement.\n\nI have read it.  Conspicuous by its absence is any evidence or point.\n\n# \n#The latter is the fallacy of the wrong analogy. Saying someone believes\n#something is hardly an information about the person at all. Saying someone\n#is a theist holds much more information. Further, the correlation between\n#theists and fanatism is higher than that between belief at all and fanatism\n#because of the special features of theistic belief.\n\nTruth by blatant assertion.  Evidence?\n# \n# \n#>#>Gullibility,\n#>#>blind obedience to authority, lack of scepticism, and so on, are all more\n#>#>reliable indicators.  And the really dangerous people - the sources of\n#>#>fanaticism - are often none of these things.  They are cynical manipulators\n#>#>of the gullible, who know precisely what they are doing.\n#>#\n#>#That's a claim you have to support. Please note that especially in the\n#>#field of theism, the leaders believe what they say.\n#>\n#>If you believe that, you're incredibly naive.\n#>\n# \n#You, Frank O'Dwyer, are living in a dream world. I wonder if there is any\n#base of discussion left after such a statement. As a matter of fact, I think\n#you are ignorant of human nature. Even when one starts with something one does\n#not believe, one gets easily fooled into actually believing what one says.\n# \n#To give you the benefit of the doubt, prove your statement.\n\nThe onus of proof is on you, sunshine.  What makes you think that\ntheist leaders believe what they say?  Especially when they say\none thing and do another, or say one thing closely followed by its\nopposite?  The practice is not restricted to theism, but it's there\nfor anyone to see.  It's almost an epidemic in this country.\n\nJust for instance, if it is harder for a camel to pass thru' the eye\nof a needle, why is the Catholic church such a wealthy land-owner?  Why\nare there churches to the square inch in my country?\n# \n#>#>Now, *some*\n#>#>brands of theism, and more precisely *some* theists, do tend to fanaticism,\n#>#>I grant you.  To tar all theists with this brush is bigotry, not a reasoned\n#>#>argument - and it reads to me like a warm-up for censorship and restriction\n#>#>of religious freedom.  Ever read Animal Farm?\n#>#>\n#>#That's a straw man. And as usually in discussions with you one has to\n#>#repeat it: Read what I have written above: not every theism leads to\n#>#fanatism, and not all fanatism is caused by theism. The point is,\n#>#there is a correlation, and it comes from innate features of theism.\n#>\n#>No, some of it comes from features which *some* theism has in common\n#>with *some* fanaticism.    Your last statement simply isn't implied by\n#>what you say before, because you're trying to sneak in \"innate features\n#>of [all] theism\".  The word you're groping for is \"some\".\n#>\n# \n#Bogus again. Not all theism as is is fanatic. However, the rest already\n#gives backup for the statement about the correlation about fanatism and\n#theism. And further, the specialty of other theistic beliefs allows them\n#to switch to fanatism easily. It takes just a nifty improvement in the\n#theology.\n\nTruth by blatant assertion.  \n# \n# \n#>#Gullibility, by the way, is one of them.\n#>\n#>No shit, Sherlock.  So why not talk about gullibility instead of theism,\n#>since it seems a whole lot more relevant to the case you have, as opposed\n#>to the case you are trying to make?\n#>\n# \n#Because there is more about theism that the attraction to gullible people\n#causing the correlation. And the whole discussion started that way by the\n#statement that theism is meaningfully correlated to fanatism, which you\n#challenged.\n\nIndeed I did.  As I recall, I asked for evidence.  What is the correlation\nof which you speak?  \n# \n# \n#>#And to say that I am going to forbid religion is another of your straw\n#>#men. Interesting that you have nothing better to offer.\n#>\n#>I said it reads like a warm up to that.  That's because it's an irrational\n#>and bogus tirade, and has no other use than creating a nice Them\/Us\n#>split in the minds of excitable people such as are to be found on either\n#>side of church walls.\n#>\n# \n#Blah blah blah. I am quite well aware that giving everyone their rights\n#protects me better from fanatics than the other way round.\n\nOf course, other people are always fanatics, never oneself.  Your\nwish to slur all theists seems pretty fanatical to me.\n# \n#It is quite nice to see that you are actually implying a connection between\n#that argument and the rise of fanatism. So far, it is just another of your\n#assertions.\n\nSo?  You can do it.\n# \n# \n#>#>|>(2)  Define \"irrational belief\".  e.g., is it rational to believe that\n#>#>|>     reason is always useful?\n#>#>|>\n#>#>|\n#>#>|Irrational belief is belief that is not based upon reason. The latter has\n#>#>|been discussed for a long time with Charley Wingate. One point is that\n#>#>|the beliefs violate reason often, and another that a process that does\n#>#>|not lend itself to rational analysis does not contain reliable information.\n#>#>\n#>#>Well, there is a glaring paradox here:  an argument that reason is useful\n#>#>based on reason would be circular, and argument not based on reason would\n#>#>be irrational.  Which is it?\n#>#>\n#>#That's bogus. Self reference is not circular. And since the evaluation of\n#>#usefulness is possible within rational systems, it is allowed.\n#>\n#>O.K., it's oval.  It's still begging the question, however.  And though\n#>that certainly is allowed, it's not rational.  And you claiming to be\n#>rational and all.\n#>\n# \n#Another of your assertions. No proof, no evidence, just claims.\n\nHey - I learned it from you. Did I do good?\n# \n# \n#>At the risk of repeating myself, and hearing \"we had that before\" [we\n#>didn't hear a _refutation_ before, so we're back.   Deal with it] :\n#>you can't use reason to demonstrate that reason is useful.  Someone\n#>who thinks reason is crap won't buy it, you see.\n#>\n# \n#That is unusually weak even for you. The latter implies that my proof\n#depends on their opinion. Somehow who does not accept that there are\n#triangles won't accept Pythagoras. Wow, that's an incredible insight.\n#I don't have to prove them wrong in their opinion. It is possible to\n#show that their systems leave out useful information respectively claims\n#unreliable or even absurd statements to be information.\n\nTotally circular, and totally useless.\n# \n#Their wish to believe makes them believe. Things are judges by their appeal,\n#and not by their information. It makes you feel good when you believe that\n#may be good for them, but it contains zillions of possible pitfalls. From\n#belief despite contrary evidence to the bogus proofs they attempt.\n\nTruth by blatant assertion.  I've seen as many bogus proofs of the \nnon-existence of gods as I have of their existence.\n\n# \n#Rational systems, by the way, does not mean that every data has to come from\n#logical analysis, the point is that the evaluation of the data does not\n#contradict logic. It easily follows that such a system does not allows to\n#evaluate if its rational in itself. Yes, it is possible to evaluate that\n#it is rational in a system that is not rational by the fallacies of that\n#system, but since the validity of the axioms is agreed upon, that has as\n#little impact as the possibility of a demon ala Descartes.\n\nThis just doesn't parse, sorry.\n# \n#So far it just a matter of consistency. I use ratiional arguments to show\n#that my system is consistent or that theirs isn't. The evaluation of the\n\nNor this.\n#predictions does not need rationality. It does not contradict, however.\n# \n# \n#>#Your argument is as silly as proving mathematical statements needs mathematics\n#>#and mathematics are therfore circular.\n#>\n#>Anybody else think Godel was silly?\n#>\n# \n#Stream of consciousness typing? What is that supposed to mean?\n# \n# \n#>#>The first part of the second statement contains no information, because\n#>#>you don't say what \"the beliefs\" are.  If \"the beliefs\" are strong theism\n#>#>and\/or strong atheism, then your statement is not in general true.  The\n#>#>second part of your sentence is patently false - counterexample: an\n#>#>axiomatic datum does not lend itself to rational analysis, but is\n#>#>assumed to contain reliable information regardless of what process is\n#>#>used to obtain it.\n#>#>\n#>#\n#>#I've been speaking of religious systems with contradictory definitions\n#>#of god here.\n#>#\n#>#An axiomatic datum lends itself to rational analysis, what you say here\n#>#is a an often refuted fallacy. Have a look at the discussion of the\n#>#axiom of choice. And further, one can evaluate axioms in larger systems\n#>#out of which they are usually derived. \"I exist\" is derived, if you want\n#>#it that way.\n#>#\n#>#Further, one can test the consistency and so on of a set of axioms.\n#>#\n#>#what is it you are trying to say?\n#>\n#>That at some point, people always wind up saying \"this datum is reliable\"\n#>for no particular reason at all.  Example: \"I am not dreaming\".\n#>\n# \n#Nope. There is evidence for it. The trick is that the choice of an axiomatic\n#basis of a system is difficult, because the possibilities are interwoven.\n#One therefore chooses that with the least assumptions or with assumptions\n#that are necessary to get information out of the system anyway.\n\nI'd like to see this alleged evidence.\n# \n#One does not need to define axioms in order to define an evaluation method\n#for usefulness, the foundation is laid by how one feels at all (that's not\n#how one feels about it).\n\nI see.  You have no irrational beliefs.  But then, fanatics never do, do\nthey?\n\n# \n#>#>|Compared the evidence theists have for their claims to the strength of\n#>#>|their demands makes the whole thing not only irrational but antirational.\n#>#>\n#>#>I can't agree with this until you are specific - *which* theism?  To\n#>#>say that all theism is necessarily antirational requires a proof which\n#>#>I suspect you do not have.\n#>#>\n#>#\n#>#Using the traditonal definition of gods. Personal, supernatural entities\n#>#with objective effects on this world. Usually connected to morals and\/or\n#>#the way the world works.\n#>\n#>IMO, any belief about such gods is necessarily irrational.  That does\n#>not mean that people who hold them are in principle opposed to the exercise of\n#>intelligence.  Some atheists are also scientists, for example.\n#>\n# \n#They don't use theism when doing science. Or it wouldn't be science. Please\n#note that subjective data lend themselves to a scientific treatment as well.\n#They just prohibit formulating them as objective statements.\n\nErgo, nothing is objective.  Fair enough.\n# \n# \n#>#>|The affinity to fanatism is easily seen. It has to be true because I believe\n#>#>|it is nothing more than a work hypothesis. However, the beliefs say they are\n#>#>|more than a work hypothesis.\n#>#>\n#>#>I don't understand this.  Can you formalise your argument?\n#>#\n#>#Person A believes system B becuase it sounds so nice. That does not make\n#>#B true, it is at best a work hypothesis. However, the content of B is that\n#>#it is true AND that it is more than a work hypothesis. Testing or evaluating\n#>#evidence for or against it  therefore dismissed because B (already believed)\n#>#says it is wronG\/ a waste  of time\/ not possible. Depending on the further\n#>#contents of B Amalekites\/Idolaters\/Protestants are to be killed, this can\n#>#have interesting effects.\n#>\n#>Peculiar definition of interesting, but sure.  Now show that a belief\n#>in gods entails the further contents of which you speak.   Why aren't my\n#>catholic neighbours out killing the protestants, for example?   Maybe they\n#>don't believe in it.  Maybe it's the conjunction of \"B asserts B\" and\n#>\"jail\/kill dissenters\" that is important, and the belief in gods is\n#>entirely irrelevant.  It certainly seems so to me, but then I have no\n#>axe to grind here.\n#>\n# \n#The example with your neighbours is a fallacy. That *your* neighbours don't\n#says little about others. And there were times when exactly that happened.\n\nNope, it's not a fallacy.   It just doesn't go to the correlation you\nwish to see.\n# \n#And tell me, when it is not irrelevant, why are such statements about\n#Amalekites and Idolaters in the Holy Books? Please note that one could\n#edit them out when they are not relevant anymore. Because gods don't err?\n#What does that say about that message?\n\nExcuse me - THE Holy Books?\n# \n#And how come we had theists saying genocides ordered by god are ok. A god\n#is the easiest way to excuse anything, and therefore highly attracting to\n#fanatics. Not to mention the effect interpretation by these fanatics can\n#have on the rest of the believers. Happens again and again and again.\n\nA god is neither the easiest way to excuse anything, nor the only way.\n\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Please reply to the seller below.\n\nFor Sale:\n\nExabyte EXB-8500 8mm 5G Tape Drive\n-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\n\n Writes 5G per 112M 8mm data grade tape UNcompressed\n Latest eeprom revs - fully compatible with Sun machines\n Black faceplate\n Seen Very Little Use (due to the fact that I have no 8mm tapes)\n\n Decided that money is more valuable than quick and convenient backups\n\n List:               $3495.00\n Catalog Specials:  ~$2495.00\n Your Price:         $1900.00\n\n shipping extra\n\nPlease email responses to:","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Could somebody please _email_ me some info on either what gif or iff\nfile formats are, or where I can get such info?\n\n\nthanx","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Could someone tell me what the density of skull bone is or direct me to \na reference that contains this info?  I would appreciate it very much.\nThanks.\n\nVinay\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nDear Elias, \n\nI counted at least 4 such answers in public (plus whatever private\nemail replies you may have received), yet you refuse to accept\nanything.  Perhaps you are better off in the private world of the\n\"Center for Policy Research\" in Iceland where you can define\n\"sensible\" in whatever way makes you feel most comfortable.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\tIf there was a large propane tank, and it was breached, don't \n\tyou think that there would be an identifiable explosion?\n\tFurther, the BD members have as much reason to lie as the \n\tGov't.\n\n\n\n\tThey'd only autopsied one body when this information was released.\n\tI wouldn't doubt though\n\n\n\n\tThe only evidence that exists right now (at least what we know\n\tabout) is various claims and counter claims. I'm waiting until\n\tthe hard evidence is released. What about you?\n\n                  _____  _____\n                  \\\\\\\\\\\\\/ ___\/___________________\n  Mitchell S Todd  \\\\\\\\\/ \/                 _____\/__________________________\n________________    \\\\\/ \/ mst4298@zeus._____\/.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'_'_'_\/\n\\_____        \\__    \/ \/ tamu.edu  _____\/.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'_'_\/\n    \\__________\\__  \/ \/        _____\/_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_\/\n                \\_ \/ \/__________\/\n                 \\\/____\/\\\\\\\\\\\\\n \t\t\t \\\\\\\\\\\\","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\tI am looking for a HP28s or HP28sx calculator. If anyone has one they are getting rid of please let me know. reply to jmparkin@mtu.edu\nthanks,\n\tJeremy\n-- \n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I am looking for the email address of the World Health Organization,\nin particular the address for the Department of Nursing or the Chief\nScientist for Nursing: Dr. Miriam Hirschfeld. The snail-mail address I\nhave is the following:\n\n    World Health Organization\n    20 Avenue Appia\n    1211 Geneva 27\n    Switzerland\n\nPlease respond directly to me. Thank you for your assistance.\n\n\n\n   ---   elg   ---","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\nChronic persistent hepatitis is usually diagnosed when someone does a liver\nbiopsy on a patient that has persistently elevated serum transaminases months\nafter a bout of acute viral hepatitis, or when someone is found to have\npersistently elevated transaminases on routine screening tests. The degree of\nelevation (in the serum transaminases) can be trivial, or as much as ten times\nnormal. Other blood chemistries are usually normal. \nAs a rule, patients with CPH have no clinical signs of liver disease. \nChronic active hepatitis can also be asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic, at\nleast initially, and that's why it's important to tell them apart by means of\na biopsy. The patient with CPH only needs to be reassured. The patient with\nCAH needs to be treated.\n\n======================================","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Hi everyone,\nI just had a quick question.\nDoes anyone know whether or not the MacIIvx supports the new SCSI-2 form, or \ndo any Macs support it.\nThanks for reading,\nWes\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I'd like to get a system running OS\/2 2.0 GA talking to a network of PCs\nrunning Windows for Workgroups.  Acting as a server would be wonderful,\nbut client access would be enough.\n\nCan I run WFW 's NET utilities in a DOS box?  Or is there a way to actually\nget OS\/2 to talk to WFW?  Will OS\/2 LanMan clients talk to WFW?\n\nDazed and confused,\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Aside to the moderator:\n\n\n\nI won't quote any of it, but there are several errors in the article.\nNot things that are just differences of opinion, but the writer just\nplain has his facts confused.\n\nFor example, Kip McKean was *asked* to come to the Lexington church\nby the leaders there. He brought no team. He actually had been in\nCharleston, IL up to that point. He had many friends, even leaders in\nGainesville, telling him not to go, because people in the Northeast\nweren't \"open\" and he'd be wasting his time and talents. Really!!\n(This fact was a kind of \"inside joke\" at one point after the church\nin Boston took off so well... Not open, indeed!) ;-)\n\nI could take it on point by point, but I am not in a position to know\none way or the other about some things in the article. I just wanted\nto point out that it contains misinformation.\n\nMark","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nWell, I dived in feet first and reverse engineered the .PRJ file as much\nas I needed to - extracted the mapping icon information - which is\nwhen it dawned on me that 3D Studio is useless for my needs. I need\na mapping icon per applied texture.  I want to use a special purpose\ngraphics computer for rendering the 3DS models and it requires a texture\nrule\/plane to be specified in 3Space, i.e. position\/orientation of the\nmapping rule.  Since only one mapping icon is used in 3DS to apply\ntextures to ALL objects\/faces, it renders (no pun intended) 3DS totally\nunsuitable for my needs.\n\nAnyone got a contact for Alias Upfront or any other good modeller for a\nPC?  I must be able to specify texture rules (one per texture) and this\nmust be saved in a file which I can read.  I haven't found any info on Alias\nin the copy of the faq that I have.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"bruce@liv.ac.uk (Bruce Stephens) suggests different levels of acceptance of\nhomosexuality:\n\nI would add 4': our churches should accept homosexual orientation but hold all\npeople to certain standards of sexual behavior.  Promiscuity, abuse of power\nrelationships, harrassment, compulsivity are equally out of place in the lives\nof homosexual as of heterosexual people.\n\nOf course, this would bring up the dread shibboleth of homosexual marriage,\nand we couldn't have that! :-)","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nMy CD300 (external, just arrived) has 2-8 plus Cinderella & Game Demo.\n\n\n--Pinghua","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"About a year and half ago when I first started riding, I took a MSF course. I\nhave taken those lessons to heart.  Over the past year I have had only a few \nnear collisions with traffic morons on four wheels.  Yesterday I got to add\nanother to the list but with this one I felt the most helpless.  I am sitting\nat a light about 1 - 2 car lengths behind a car, a wise decsion.  Suddenly I \nhear screeching tires.  I dart my eyes to my mirrors and realize it's the \nmoroon flying up right behind me, in my panic I pop my clutch and stall the\nbike.  Luckily the guy stops a foot behind my rear wheel.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nIf you've got a good propulsion system that's not useful for deceleration,\nsure you can use chemical rockets for that part... but even just doing the\ndeceleration chemically is a major headache.  We're talking seriously high\ncruising velocities; taking the velocity down nearly to zero for a Pluto\norbit isn't easy with chemical fuels.\n\nIncidentally, solar sails are not going to be suitable as the acceleration\nsystem for something like this.  They don't go anywhere quickly.  (I speak\nas head of mission planning for the Canadian Solar Sail Project, although\nthat is more or less an honorary title right now because CSSP is dormant.)\nThey can't fly a mission like this unless you start talking about very\nadvanced systems that drop in very close to the Sun first.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nThis is normally the case, but make sure you get a board with a plug in oscillator\nas you will screw up your warranty if you start to solder the board.\n\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n[much more deleted]\n\n\nHere is how! Lets write a DOCUMENT which includes all the reasons\nwe oppose Clipper, in clear, concise, non-techincal manner. I urge \neveryone of you to take the (very simple) \"start\" below and repost it\nwith changes. Let the text evolve until we reach something most of us\nlike. Then, all of you should send a copy (with a personnel letter)\nto your congress critter, local reporter on sci\/tech, etc.\n\nPlease, to make this a success, try to post only an \"agreed\" version,\nnot flames. To respond to a flame to this, please change the subject\nto, e.g, \"clipper scope - discussion\".\n\n-- Michael Golan\n   mg@cs.princeton.edu\n\n[all of these are points - which should be made into paragraphs]\n\nWhat is wrong with the clipper chip - By usenet users\n-----------------------------------------------------\n\n1) It is secret. \n2) How can we trust the escrow agencies?\n3) It is not cost-effective\n4) We want other encryption systems, the government seems to want to\n   disallow it in the future\n5) Anyone can build a non-key system\n6) We are worried about a back door\n7) Once everyone uses a clipper chip, the mechanism for a Big-Brother\n   government is in place, a change of government can lead to it. \n   Especially since the escrow agencies operation is not governed by\n   law (so the president can change the rules to allow free access to\n   the keys at any time, e.g., during war)\n8) Few criminals are caught by wiretaps, the cost [and risks] are unjustified\n9) Once the FBI get hold of a key, it can decrypt past and future conversations","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Hi!\n\n\tI have a question which is not directly related to X Screen Saver.\n\nWhat X Screen Saver does is to blank the screen if it has been idle for\nsome time.  I don't want my screen to go blank but to get locked or call\nxlock program.\n\n\tIs there a parallel call to XSetScreenSaver() which locks my screen\nor call my lock program after certain amount of idle time?  Or is there a\nway to find out how long the server has been idle?","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I have the following CD's for sale at $6 each ($5 for 3 or more) except\nwhere a special price is noted.\n\nMelissa Etheridge             never enough\nSinead O'Connor               I do not want...\nChicago                       19\nPeter Cetera                  One More Story\nEric Clapton                  Layla from Unplugged  (CD single - $3)\nBeverly Craven                Beverly Craven\nBobby McFerrin                Simple Pleasures\nLynyrd Skynyrd                Gold and Platinum  (Double set - $10)\nElectric Light Orchestra      Greatest Hits\nLinda Ronstadt                Greatest Hits\nBuster                        Movie Soundtrack\nPretty Woman                  Movie Soundtrack\nCandy Dulfer                  Saxuality\nYanni                         DARE to dream\nChuck Mangione                feels so good\nBobby Mcferrrin and\n   chick Corea                Play\nTangerine Dream               Stratosfear\nOrmandy and Phil. Orch.       Beethoven's Ninth\nMehta and N.Y. Phil.          Wagner - The Ring (highlights)\nMata and Dallas Symph.        Ravel - Bolero, Albordado..., Rapsodie espagnole\nMason Williams and\nMannhein Steamroller          Classical Gas\nLevi and Atlanta Symph.       Hindemith - Symphonic Metamorphosis\nWilhelm Kempff                Beethoven - Piano Sonatas 8, 14, 15\n\nAll are in excellent condition.  Email for details or songlists.\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nI'll tell you all that I know about chromium.  But before I do, I want to \nget a few things off my chest.  I just got blasted in e-mail for my kidney \nstone posts.  Kidney stones are primarily caused by diet, as is heart \ndisease and cancer.  When I give dietary advise, it is not intended to \nencourage people reading this news group(or Sci. Med. Nutrition where I do \nmost of my posting) to avoid seeing a doctor.  Nothing can be further from \nthe truth.  Kidney stones can be caused by tumors and this possibility has to \nbe ruled out.  But once it is, diet is a good way of preventing a reoccurance.\nSame thing with heart disease and cancer, if you suspect that you may have \na problem with one of these diseases, don't use what I'm going to tell you \nor what you read in some book to avoid going to a doctor.  You have to go.\nHopefully you will find a doctor who knows enough about nutrition to help \nyou change your risk factors for both diseases as part of a treatment \nprogram(but the odds are that you will not and that's why I'm here).  When \nmy wife detected a lump in here breast I didn't say, don't worry my vitamin \nE will take care of it.  Any breast lump has to be worked up by a physician, \nplan and simple.  If it's begnin(which most are) fine, then maybe a diet \nchange and supplementation will prevent further breast lumps from occuring.\nBut let me tell you right now, if you have tried diet and supplementation \nand another lump returns, get your butt into the doctor's office as fast as \nyour little feet can carry you(better yet, have a mammography done on a \nregular basis, my wife kept putting her's off, both myself and her \ngynocologist told her she needed to have one done).  Her gynocologist even \nscheduled one, but she didn't show up(too busy running the Operating Room for \nthe biggest Hospital in Tulsa).\n\nOne more thing, I am not an orthomolecular nutritionist.  This group uses \nhigh dose vitamins and minerals to treat all kinds of disease.  There is \nabsolutely no doubt in my mind that vitamins and minerals can and do have \ndrug actions in the body.  But you talk about flying blind, man this is \nreally blind treatment.  No drug could ever be used as these vitamins and \nminerals are being used.  I'm not saying that some of this stuff couldn't \nbe right on the money, it may well be.  But my approach to nutrition is a \nlot like that of Weinsier and Morgan, the two M.D's who wrote the new \nClinical Nutrition textbook.  My push is the nutrient reserves and the lab \ntests needed to measure these reserves and then supplementation or diet \nchanges to get these reserves built up to where they should be to let you \nhandle stress.  That's where I'm coming from folks.  Blast away if you want,\nI'm not going to change.  Put me in your killfile if you want, I really \ndon't care.  I'm averaging 8-10 e-mail messages a day from people who think \nthat I've got something important to say.  But I'm also getting hit by a \nfew with an axe to grind.  That's life.\n\nChromium is one of the trace elements.  It has a very limited(but very \nimportant) role in the body.  It is used to form glucose tolerance factor\n(GTF).  GTF is made up of chromium, nicinamide(niacin), glycine, cysteine \nand glutamic.  Only the chromium and the niacin are needed from the diet to \nform GTF.  Some foods already have GTF(Liver, brewers or nutritional yeast,\nand black pepper).  When chromium is in GTF, a pretty good absorption is \nseen(about 20%).  But when it is simply present as a mineral or mineral \nchelate(chromium picolinate) it's absorption is much lower(1 to 2%, lowest \nfor all the minerals).  I've been posting in Misc. Fitness and chromium has \ncome up there several times as a \"fat burner\".  Chromium is among the least \ntoxic of the minerals so you could really load yourself up and not really \ndo any harm.  I wouldn't do it though.  The adequate and safe range for \nchromium is 50 to 200ug per day.  The average American is getting about \n30ug per day from his\/her diet.  Chromium levels decrease with age and many \nbelieve that adult onset diabetes is primarily a chromium deficiency.  I \ncan cite you several studies that have been done with glucose tolerance in \nType II diabetes but I'm not going to because for each positive one, there \nalso seems to be a negative one as well.  I'm convinced that the problem is \nbioavailability.  When yeast(GTF) is used, good results are obtained but when \nchromium itself is used the results are usually negative.  In addition to \nType II diabetes, chromiuum has been examined in cardiovascular disease and \nglucoma, again with mixed results as far as cardiovascular disease is \nconcerned\n\nSince a high blood glucose level can lead to cardiovascular disease, \nthis possible link with chromium isn't too surprising.  Glucoma is a little \nmore interesting.  Muscle eye focusing activity is primarily an insulin \nresponsive glucose-driven metabolic function.  If this eye focusing activity \nis impaired(by a lack of glucose due to a poor insulin response), intraocular \npressure is believed to be elevated.  In a fairly large study of 400 pts with \nglaucoma, the one consistent finding was a low RBC chromium. J. Am. Coll. \nNutr. 10(5):536,(1991).  But this one preliminary study should not prompt \npeople to go out and start popping chromium supplements.  For one thing, \njust about every older person is going to have a low RBC chromium unless \nthey have been taking chromium suppleemnts(yeast).  Since glucoma is often \nfound in older people, it's not too surprising that chromium was low in the \nRBC's.  If chromium supplementation could reverse glucoma, that would \nprompt some attention.  I suspect that there will be a clinical trail to \ncheck out this possible chromium link to glucoma.\n\nYou could find out what your body chromium pool size was by either the RBC \nchromium test or hair analysis.  Most clinical labs are not going to run a \nRBC chromium.  There are plenty of labs that will do a hair and nail \nanalysis for you, but I wouldn't use them.  There is just too much funny \nbusiness going on in these unregulated labs right now.\n\nHere's Weinsier and Morgan, advise on chromium.  They do not consider \nchromium to be one of those minerals for which a reliable clinical test is \navailable(they don't like the hair and nail analysis labs either, and they \nalso recognize the RBC chromium is primarily a research test that is not \nroutinely available in most clinical chemistry labs).  This has to change \nand as more labs run a RBC chromiuum, it will.  What then do they suggest?\nMake a diagnosis of chromium deficiency based on a documented clinical \nresponse to chromium(run a glucose tolerance test before and after chromium \nsupplementation).  Once you make the diagnosis, put the patient on 200ug of \nCrCl3 orally each day or 10grams of yeast per day.\n\nWhat's my advise?  Don't take chromium supplements to try to loose weight\n(they just do not work that way).  If you want to take them and then \nexercise, that would be great.  Do include yeast as part of your diet(most \nAmericans are not getting enough chromium from their diet).  If you do have \na poor glucose tolerance, ask your doctor to check your chromium status.  \nWhen he or she says, \"what in the world are you talking about\", just say, \nplease get a copy of Weinsier and Morgan's new Clinical Nutrition textbook \nand do what they say to do with patients who present with a poor glucose \ntolerance.  If you can't do that, I'll find a doctor who can, thank you \nvery much.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"It depends. If, in the judgment of the umpire the batter made no\nattempt to avoid getting hit, the batter is awarded first for a\nbase on balls. If the umpire rules he did try to get out of the\nway, he's awarded first because of a hit batsman.\n\nRyan Robbins\nPenobscot Hall\nUniversity of Maine","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nWhat's so special about this label, that their discs are going for\nupwards of $6 more than most retail outlets average prices for CDs?\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I read in a recent Tidbits(171-2?) about the possibility of putting\na 68030 in a PB100. I am interested in doing so, but would like\nto know more about it. Does it involve just replacing the 68000 that\nis on the daughterboard, or does it involve getting a new daughter-\nboard. Also, would the 68030 be able to run QT with the PB100's\nscreen(not pretty I know, but possible?) And of course, what would\nthe damage be ($). Any info would be appreciated.\nThanks in advance. Jay Fogel\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nWhat about black hispanics?\n\n\t\t\t    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\nMan, you had better do some SERIOUS reading. I really, really doubt that you\nmeant to say this.\n\nMike","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"This is a question aimed at those who have done some server code hacking:\n\n\n\nI am attempting to add a working SaveScreen function to a new\nserver.  I have been able to get the screen to blank out properly, and through\ndebugging I can see that my savescreen function is being called with on=0,\nwhich (for some arcane reason) means to blank the screen.\n\nMy problem is that this function is never being called again with on=1, even\nafter I have moved the mouse and\/or typed some keys.  My question is:  what am\nI likely to be missing that would cause this problem?  I copied the basic\ndesign of my function from the existing versions:\n\nstatic Bool next_savescreen(scr,on)\nScreenPtr scr;\nBool on;\n{\n\n  \/* this was copied from the omron server code -- is it the right way? *\/\n  if (on != SCREEN_SAVER_ON) {\n\t\tnextSetLastEventTime();\n  }\n\n  if (on == SCREEN_SAVER_ON) { \/* Save user's current setting *\/\n\t\tnext_save_screen_brightness = NXScreenBrightness(my_eventhandle);\n\t\tNXSetScreenBrightness( my_eventhandle, 0.0); \/* Blank the screen *\/\n  }\n  else {\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t \/* Unblank the screen *\/\n\t\tNXSetScreenBrightness( my_eventhandle, next_save_screen_brightness);\n  }\n\n  return TRUE;\n}\n\nI can see in the server\/os code where the screensaver is called to turn on the\nsaver, but I cannot find where it \"wakes up\" the server and unblanks the\nscreen.\n\nAny tips\/help would be appreciated.\n\nThanks.\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Have Belfour and Roenick done another disappearing act at chips are \n down time?  When I saw them it looked like the Blackhawks' defense\n might carry them along way in the playoffs.  \n\n Well they held St. Louis to 17 shots in game 2 and lost.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Cause and cures for fever blisters respectfully requested.\nThanks!\n            :-D iane","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n       ^^^^^^^^ \n\nIn four of the five games Finns have played, the goalie has been chosen\nthe best player of the opposing team. (In the fifth, the finnish goalie, \nKetterer was elected the best Finn) Has this to do with the goalies \nhaving good days in these games, or are the finnish players just lousy\nscorers???\n\nAnyway, quite few goals have been scored in these games in generally\n(the exception of course being Canada vs. Italy).  It looks like the\ngoalies are getting too good.  Is this due to their equipment getting\nbigger, so they cover more (their gloves, e.g. seem to be much bigger\nnow than they were some years ago).\n\nAnybody know if the rules on goalie equipment has changed this way????\n\n\nMikko Wihervaara  \n ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nI too have had premature ventricular heartbeat, starting in 1974.  (These \nare not, by the way, \"extra\" heartbeats.  This is how they feel, and \nthis is how I described them initially to the doctor, but they're \nactually *premature* heartbeats.  I would sometimes experience a lapse \nafter one of these that went on for a suffocatingly long period of time, \nmaking me wonder if my heart were ever going to beat again.) \n\nI had them persistently for eighteen years.  Then I went on a low-fat \ndiet, and they just stopped.  I haven't had a single episode of PVH \nfor almost two years.  I know:  correlation does not imply causation. \nThis is just FWIW.  ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\nWHAT??!!!!\n\nYou can't remove it, unless you register?  \nYou gotta be joking, right?\nWhat happens if I get a demo-version of that program, install it, and then\ndecide that I don't like it.  Do I have to register to be able to get rid\nof it?  (Hell, no, that is the last thing I would think of!)\nIf that is what you mean, then you would better make pretty sure, that a\nstatement to that effect is printed loud and clear on the package!\n\n\nA better way to implement the above mentioned scheme is (IMHO) to allow\nanyone to install the program, but if they register, they get some\nadditional features enabled.  It could mean only one new .EXE file needed\nto be copied, to have got the full-version of the program.\nOf course anyone is _free_ to _delete_ or _remove_ that program at whatever\ntime they like.\n\nStill, we face the trouble of 'moving' the new .EXE file around.  That\ncould be solved by having the user registering him self, and get back a\nspecially marked for him (or her) a new .exe file.\n\n\nAs for some sort of limitations, here are some suggestions:\nLimit the size of data that the program can work with,\nDisable saving the data,\nPrint it out with some defects in the output (but be sure to mark them as\nsuch)\nLet some pop-up screen appear for ca. 10 secs. when the program is started\nand\/or exited\n\netc....\nbut DON'T have it that you _must_ register to be able to remove it.\n\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I have a certificate for 2 round-trip airfares to the Bahamas.\nExpiration date is one year from now.\n\nThe maximum value, depending on time and location, is estimated at\n$1628. I am asking for $1500 or best offer.\n\nFor more information, call Goh at\n\n(415) 497-0663\n\nor send mail to\n\nkmgoh@leland.stanford.edu","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":" I was told by my doctor\n\n\n\nI've had three children and the pain was different in degree for each.  I\nthink it just depends.  I was impressed by how awful a kidney stone seemed\nto be, when I saw a relative with one.  I bet they depend, too--some are\nprobably worse than others.\n\nPain--yucch.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nIf you won't believe anything the government says, and the press\nis not reliable according to the same logic, then what do you base\nyour statements on?  Wild speculation laced with a healthy dose\nof paranoia?\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nKaveh,\n\nall of the data included with in the Cyberware_demo is\nnon-proprietary, use it as you like. I just ask that you give us\ncredit if you use it in a research paper\/project and send us the\nresults.\n\nthanks,\n\ngeo\nCyberware\n-- \ngeorge dabrowski\nCyberware Labs","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nI don't have the faintest idea what literature it is to which you \nrefer. Is this an explicit statement by some document? Or is it your \ninterpretation of statements in such literature? Or is this a figment \nof your imagination or a Nazi Armenian propaganda movie script? In \nany case, a fascinating piece of analysis. Here are the facts:\n\n\nSource: Walker, Christopher: \"Armenia: The Survival of a Nation.\"\n        New York (St. Martin's Press), 1980.\n\nThis generally pro-Armenian work contains the following information\nof direct relevance to the Nazi Holocaust: \n\na) Dro (the butcher), the former dictator of x-Soviet Armenia and the \narchitect of the genocide of 2.5 million Muslims, the most respected \nof Nazi Armenian leaders, established an Armenian Provisional Republic \nin Berlin during World War II; \n\nb) this 'provisional government' fully endorsed and espoused the social \ntheories of the Nazis, declared themselves and all Armenians to be members \nof the Aryan 'Super-Race;' \n\nc) they published an Anti-Semitic, racist journal, thereby aligning themselves \nwith the Nazis and their efforts to exterminate the Jews; and, \n\nd) they mobilized an Armenian Army of up to 30,000 members which fought side \nby side with the Wehrmacht.\n\n \nIn fact, by 1942, Nazi Armenians in Europe had established a vast \nnetwork of pro-German collaborators, that extended over two continents. \nThousands of Armenians were serving the German army and Waffen-SS in \nRussia and Western Europe. Armenians were involved in espionage and \nfifth-column activities for Hitler in the Balkans and Arabian Peninsula. \nThey were promised an 'independent' state under German 'protection' in \nan agreement signed by the 'Armenian National Council.' (A copy of \nthis agreement can be found in the 'Congressional Record,' November 1, \n1945; see Document 1.) On this side of the Atlantic, Nazi Armenians \nwere aware of their brethrens alliance. They had often expressed \npro-Nazi sentiments until America entered the war.\n\n\nIn 1941, while the Jews were being assembled for their doom in the Nazi\nconcentration camps, the Nazi Armenians in Germany formed the first\nArmenian battalion to fight alongside the Nazis. In 1943, this battalion \nhad grown into eight battalions of 30,000-strong under the command of Dro \n(the butcher), who was the former dictator of x-Soviet Armenia and the \narchitect of the cold-blooded genocide of 2.5 million Turks and Kurds \nbetween 1914-1920. An Armenian National Council was formed by the notorious \nDashnak Party leaders in Berlin, which was recognized by the Nazis. Encouraged \nby this, the Armenians summarily formed a provisional government that endorsed \nand espoused fully the principles of the Nazis and declared themselves as the \nmembers of the Aryan super race and full participants to Hitler's policy of \nextermination of the Jews.\n\nThis Armenian-Nazi conspiracy against the Jews during WWII was an \"encore\"\nperformance staged by the Armenians during WWI, when they back-stabbed and\nexterminated 2.5 million Muslims by colluding with the invading Russian army.\n\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I hear ya!  Then again, we must remember that we are indeed Cub fans, and\nthat the Cubs will eventually blow it.  After all, the Cubs are the easiest\nteam in the National League to root for.  No Pressure.  You know they will\nlose eventually.  Oh well, I suppose we must have faith.  After all, they\ndo look pretty good, and they don't even have Sandberg back yet.  \n\nCUBS IN '93!!!!!","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nOK, here is my try:\n\n\t\t\t\t        Lukko, Finland\n\t\t\t\t\t(look at the colors of his mask)\n\t\t\t\t\t              \n\t\t\t\t        ex-JyPHT, Finland, now in Germany\n\t\t\t\t\tExcellent defenseman\n\n\t\t\t\t\tHIFK, Finland\n\n\t\t\t\t        Tappara, Finland\n\n\t\t\t\t\tHPK, Finland\n\n\t\t\t\t\tJokerit, Finland\n\t\n\t\t\t\t        HPK, Finland\n\n\t\t\t\t        JyPHT, Finland, no new contract\n\t\t\t\t\tJyPHT owns his player rights\n\nAll of these Czechs (Kadlec, Dolezal not anymore) are very good hockey\nplayers. It is a big surprise that Hlinka selected Dolezal. \n\"Dole\" had a bad season in JyPHT and that's why they didn't make\na new contract. The other Czech we had, Jiri Jonak, got fired also.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nWhat atheists are you talking about?  \n\nIMNSHO, Abortion is the womans choice.  Homosexual sex is the choice of \nthe people involved.  War is sometimes necessary.  \n\nThis leaves capital punishment.  I oppose capital punishemnt because \nmistakes can happen (yes this thread went around with no resolution\nrecently).\n\nAs far as poplulation control, I think contraception and education are\nthe best courses of action.\n\n\nThat's because you are again making the assumption that all Atheists \nhave some specific mindset.\n\n\nMistakes can happen Bill, and I could be the victim of such a mistake.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"#In article <1r0fpv$p11@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>\n# \n#(Deletion)\n#>#      Point: Morals are, in essence, personal opinions. Usually\n#>#(ideally) well-founded, motivated such, but nonetheless personal. The\n#>#fact that a real large lot of people agree on some moral question,\n#>#sometimes even for the same reason, does not make morals objective; it\n#>#makes humans somewhat alike in their opinions on that moral question,\n#>#which can be good for the evolution of a social species.\n#>\n#>And if a \"real large lot\" (nice phrase) of people agree that there is a\n#>football on a desk, I'm supposed to see a logical difference between the two?\n#>Perhaps you can explain the difference to me, since you seem to see it\n#>so clearly.\n#>\n#(rest deleted)\n# \n#That's a fallacy, and it is not the first time it is pointed out.\n\nIt's not a fallacy - note the IF.   IF a supermajority of disinterested people \nagree on a fundamantal value (we're not doing ethics YET Benedikt), then what \nis the difference between that and those people agreeing on a trivial\nobservation?\n\n#For one, you have never given a set of morals people agree upon. Unlike\n#a football. Further, you conveniently ignore here that there are\n#many who would not agree on tghe morality of something. The analogy\n#does not hold.\n\nI have, however, given an example of a VALUE people agree on, and explained\nwhy.  People will agree that their freedom is valuable.  I have also\nstated that such a value is a necessary condition for doing objective\nethics - the IF assertion above.  And that is what I'm talking about, there\nisn't a point in talking about ethics if this can't be agreed.\n\n#One can expect sufficiently many people to agree on its being a football,\n#while YOU have to give the evidence that only vanishing number disagrees\n#with a set of morals YOU have to give.\n\nI'm not doing morals (ethics) if we can't get past values.  As I say,\nthe only cogent objection to my 'freedom' example is that maybe people\naren't talking about the same thing when they answer that it is valuable.\nMaybe not, and I want to think about this some, especially the implications\nof its being true.\n\n#Further, the above is evidence, not proof. Proof would evolve out of testing\n#your theory of absolute morals against competing theories.\n\nGarbage.  That's not proof either.\n\n#The above is one of the arguments you reiterate while you never answer\n#the objections. Evidence that you are a preacher.\n\nName that fallacy.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nIs this true?  I thought that this was disputed...\n\n\n\n\n\n-- \n-Peter","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I have just started taking allergy shots a month ago and is \nstill wondering what I am getting into. A friend of mine told\nme that the body change every 7 years (whatever that means)\nand I don't need those antibody-building allergy shots at all.\nDoes that make sense to anyone?","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nWell Bosnia and the US did...the UN cannot impose blue berets on\na country, and the US has voted for the current policy and mandate\nin the Security Council...and could have said no if it wanted to...\nit has a veto.\n\nClinton has not demanded the removal of the UN forces...because he want\nto have his cake and eat it too...he wants to dictate policy but\nnot be responsible for the policy he wants to dictate.  If Clinton\nasks for the blue berets to leave, then he Bill Clinton becomes\nresponsible for what happens...him and Sen. Biden and their friends\nwho want to fight the war from 10,000 ft...as long as the blue berets\nare there Clinton can use Europe as a scapegoat for American\nindecisiveness.\n\nI fully admit that the current UN policy approved by all the major\npowers including the US may be wrong or inappropriate...but these\n\"back-seat drivers\" in the US like Clinton and Biden are just a bunch\nof hypocrites looking for an gimmick to look like they are doing \nsomething to assuage their own consciences and those who are\ndemanding action or leadership...and most European leaders are\nsmart enough to know the difference between American hot air and\nAmerican leadership.\n\n\nWell, if Biden is so outraged...why the hell doesn't he do something\nabout it...where is his resolution in the US Senate for a declaration\nof war or the commitment of US forces and troops.  Biden is just\nfull of hot air.  ","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"xlyx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Mike Terry) asks:\n\nak296@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker) replies:\n\nUgh!  Who gave you guys your login names?  Blech  |^P\n\nJohn obviously never saw me ride a buddy's CX500, known as \"Torque Monster.\"\nI could pull the most beautiful skyshots with that bike!  Unfortunately, the\nowner saw me do one.  Once.  I never get to ride TM again...  ;^(\n\nMr. Bill","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"With your date\/time problems, you MIGHT have a problem with the Dallas\nClock Chip (I'm making a possibly bad assumption that your system has\na clock chip and that it's the standard Dallas Clock Chip).  I always\nlook at the battery and the clock chip when such things go wrong--\nat least, as the first course of action.\n \nMel. White\/Data Services\/City of Garland, Texas\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nYou don't get it - do you? During the years of World War I, the x-Soviet \nArmenian Government has planned and perpetrated the 'Genocide' of the \nMuslim people, which not only took the lives of 2.5 million Muslim people, \nbut was also the method used to empty the Turkish homeland of its inhabitants. \nTo this day, Turkish historic lands remain occupied by the x-Soviet Armenia. \nIn order to cover up the fact of its usurpation of the historic Turkish \nhomeland, which is the crux of Turkish political demands, fascist x-Soviet \nArmenia continues its anti-Turkish policy in the following ways:\n\n1. x-Soviet Armenia denies the historical fact of the Turkish Genocide\nin order to shift international public opinion away from its political\nresponsibility.\n\n2. x-Soviet Armenia, employing ASALA\/SDPA\/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism \nTriangle, attempts to call into question the veracity of the Turkish \nGenocide.\n\n3. x-Soviet Armenia has also implemented state-sponsored terrorism through\nthe ASALA\/SDPA\/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism Triangle in an attempt to \nsilence the Turkish people's vehement demands and protests.\n\n4. Using all its human, financial, and governmental resources, x-Soviet\nArmenia and its tools in the United States attempt to silence through\nterrorism, bribery and other subversive methods, non-Turkish supporters\nof the Turkish cause, be they political, governmental and humanitarian.\n\nUsing all the aforementioned methods, the x-Soviet Armenian Government \nis attempting to neutralize the international diplomatic community from\nmaking the Turkish Case a contemporary issue.\n\nYet despite the efforts of the x-Soviet Armenian Government and its \nterrorist and revisionist organizations, in the last decades, thanks \nto the struggle of those whose closest ones have been systematically \nexterminated by the Armenians, the international wall of silence on \nthis issue has begun to collapse, and consequently a number of \ngovernments and organizations have become supportive of the recognition \nof the Turkish Genocide.\n\nWith the full knowledge that the struggle for the Turkish territorial\ndemands are still in their initial stages, the Turkish and Kurdish people\nwill unflaggingly continue in this sacred struggle, therefore the victims\nof the Turkish Genocide demand:\n\n1. that the x-Soviet Armenian Government, as the heirs of the Armenian \nDictatorship, recognize the Turkish Genocide;\n\n2. that x-Soviet Armenia return the historic homeland to the Turkish and\nKurdish people;\n\n3. that the x-Soviet Armenian Government make material reparations for \ntheir heinous and unspeakable crime to the victims of the Turkish Genocide;\n\n4. that all world governments, and especially the United States, officially\nrecognize the Turkish Genocide and Turkish territorial rights and refuse\nto succumb to all Armenian political pressure;\n\n5. that the U.S. Government free itself from the friendly position it \nhas adopted towards its unreliable ally, x-Soviet Armenia, and officially \nrecognize the historical fact of the Turkish Genocide as well as be \nsupportive of the pursuit of Turkish territorial demands;\n\n6. that the x-Soviet Republics officially recognize the historical fact \nof the Turkish Genocide and include the cold-blooded extermination of \n2.5 million Muslim people in their history books.\n\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":": >\n\n:   Precisely my position.  \n\n:   As a newbie, I tried the point-by-point approach to debate with\n:   these types.  It wasted both my time and my lifespan.  Ignoring\n:   them is not an option, since they don't go away, and doing so\n:   would leave one with large stretches of complete anonymity in this\n:   group.\n\nBob,\n\nI've posted here long enough to see your name a few times, but I\ncan't recall any point by point approach to anything you've\ncontributed. But I'm old (probably senile) and I may have just\nforgotten, if you could post an example of your invincible logic, it\nmight jog my memory.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\tHaving watched most of the televised trial, I can answer that\nwhen such statements were made by the defense atty, the prosecutor did\nobject, and the judge tended to sustain the ones that were obviously\nfalling under the \"self-incrimination\" type of objection.  There was\nquite a bit of meta-discussion during the trial over the use of graphic\nlanguage, with most folks asking the judge if she wanted to hear the\nexact language.  Practically every time the defense tried to get the\nplaintiffs to \"self-incriminate\" by asking them such questions, there\nwere objections and sustains.\n\n\tAt one point the defense managed to get in a quip about\n\"solicitation for a felony\" and the judge herself said \"sustained\"\nbefore the prosecutor could get the objection stated.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\tYou're right, it doesn't appear to working correctly.  It really\n\tshould say:\n\t\t\"space: the last frontier\"\n\tacross the top. :) :) :)\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nWell here's how I prepared.  I got one of those big beach\numbrellas, some of those gel-pack ice things, a big Coleman cooler\nwhich I've loaded up with Miller Draft (so I like Miller Draft,\nso sue me), a new pair of New Balance sneakers, a Sony\nWatchman, and a couple of cartons of BonTon Cheddar Cheese\nPopcorn.\n\nI haven't decided what to wear yet.  What does one wear to an\neternal damnation?","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nWhy don't you cite the passages so that we can focus on some to discuss.\nThen, following Jesus, you can make fools of us and our \"logic\".\n\n\nIndeed, if you can justifiably make this assertion, you must be a\ngenius in logic and making fools of us should be that much easier.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"A friend of mine recently acquired an 8!24 GC card for his IIsi\nand was wondering why it always starts up in black and white.\nI know there have been numerous reports about the worth of\nthe GC, but I was wondering if anyone could elaborate a little\nmore on the subject.  Any replies encouraged.  Thanks in ad-\nvance.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\tYes, it is.  It is available at ftp.ctr.columbia.edu, probably\nin pub\/xkernel.  \n\n\tIn response to the earlier gentlemans question, you could\ntheoretically recompile xkernel on a sun4.  The binaries available are\nfor the sun3\/50, but the author says it could be used on most\narchitectures, and he does have a 'do-it-yourself' type distribution.\n\n\tWe use Xkernel for about 7 machines here.  email me if you\nhave any questions I can help you with...","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nLow oil pressure, usually.  Could be your oil pump, or...\nchecked your oil lately???\n\nMC","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\n\nIt's been suggested.  (Specifically, lightning strikes between clouds\nin the interstellar medium.)\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"from Matthew Rush:\n\nIt's pretty obvious that Holik's hitting Barrasso was an accident. He\nwas even apologizing for it immediately before the Penguins all jumped\non him.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"OK...here is my question.  I want to hook up my PowerBook 160 to\na SVGA monitor but I do not want to buy the PowerBook\/DOS Companion.  Can\nanyone tell me the EXACT cable I need to connect them?  If there is such\na cable, can I purchase it from MacWharehouse or some computer store?\nIf I must buy the cable from James Engineering, how much do they run and\nhow can I get a hold them???  I guess that was more than 'a' question.  :)\nThanks in advance for any replys.\n\n            John Schrieber       E-mail: schriejh@cnsvax.uwec.edu","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nYet another suggestion, but this one is non-toxic (although I would handle\nit like any other cleaner) and it smells nice.  The chemical is called\nd-Limonene, and it smells like lemon peels (I think it is a lemon extract\nof some kind).  You might find it in a hardware store, sold as a\ngeneral-purpose solvent, but your best bet would be any bike store --\nit is used as a chain-cleaning fluid.  It works on sticker glue, crayons,\ngrease, oil, etc.\n\nIt's clear yellow in the bottle, and you can use it straight; if you add\nwater, it changes to a creamy consistency, which is good for some jobs.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I'm doing some work on the Mac IIsi and need some information on the CPU.\nI have the Motorola MC68030UM\/AD Rev. 1, but I fear it is out of date as it\ndoes not have the characteristics for the CPU package type used in the IIsi.\n\nWhat I need is the Theta (JC) Thermal Characteristic (the Junction to Case\nthermal resistance) for the _PLASTIC_ FE style package.\n\nIf you have this info, I would appreciate your sending it by email as postings\nsuffer a few days delay here.\n\nIf you are keen on this stuff, I am also interested in a more accurate value\nfor the typical power dissipation. I'm assuming 2.25 Watts (using the 2.6 W\nmaximum at 0 C decreased the way the Pd drops in the 6801x as Ta increases).\nIf your manual has a chart of power dissipation, I'd like to know what it\nreads at 25 C and 40 C.\n\nThanks for reading!","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nThere is a fine line between \"getting players' input\" and \"knuckling\nunder to players' demands.\"  A manager, much like a military officer,\nneeds to have his (her) players' complete obedience and respect during\na game.  After the game, it's no big deal, but when there is no time \nto do more than react, players must trust the manager or the team often\nfalls apart (see: Boston Red Sox, ff. :) )  \n\nStrawberry's demeanor as represented by the media, often sounds like\ndemands.  I suspect that a comment like \"I enjoy hitting fourth; I'm\nused to it\" would get pretty brutally misinterpreted by the media if\nit came from Strawberry.  Russ Porter quoted Strawberry as saying,\n\"I feel more comfortable hitting cleanup and I think I perform best\nin that role.\"  (Paraphrased by my memory and bias.)  That seems like\na fairly non-petulant answer to what was almost certainly a question \nlike, \"How do you feel about being moved to the third spot in the order?\"\nA more media-sensitive player might answer \"The manager knows what he is\ndoing.  If he thinks that batting me third will help the team, then I\nam all for it.\"  We'd ignore that answer as brown stuff, so it seems a\nlittle bit of an overreaction to brand Darryl's response as petulant.\n\nPersonally, I think his argument is nonsense and that it really doesn't\nmatter much in which order the #2-5 players in the order are batted,\nexcept for personal stats.  If I were Darryl, I'd probably answer that\nquestion, \"The number four spot gets a few more RBI opportunities and I get\npaid for RBIs.  I think it is best for me to bat fourth, but I am willing\nto hit third if Tommy thinks it will benefit the team.\"  or something like\nthat.  It would be helpful at salary time--my RBIs were down because I was\nhitting third--and make him sound like a \"team\" player.  Since Strawberry\nwill not likely go through arbitration, but use the free agent market for\nhis next contract, maybe that argument is useless, but it would help   \nhis image with the media without appearing to be totally content-free.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"SREBRENICA'S DOCTOR RECOUNTS TOWN'S LIVING HELL\n \n    By Laura Pitter\n    TUZLA, Bosnia, Reuter - Neret Mujanovic was a pathologist\nwhen he trekked through the mountains to the besieged Muslim\ntown of Srebrenica last August.\n    But after treating 4,000 mangled victims of Bosnia's bloody\nwar, he considers himself a surgeon.\n    ``Now I'm a surgeon with great experience although I have no\nlicense to practice. But if I operate on a person and he lives\nnormally that's the greatest license a surgeon could have.''\n    Evacuated by the U.N. this week to his home town of Tuzla,\nthe Muslim physician gave an eyewitness medical assessment of\nthe horrors of the year-long Serb siege of Srebrenica and the\nsuffering of the thousands trapped there.\n    ``I lived through hell together with the people of\nSrebrenica. All those who lived through this are the greatest\nheroes that humanity can produce,'' he told reporters.\n    Mujanovic, 31, had practiced for two months as an assistant\nat a local hospital in Tuzla, but before going to Srebrenica he\nhad never performed a surgical operation on his own. Now he says\nhe has performed major surgery 1,396 times, relying on books for\nguidance, amputating arms and legs 150 times, usually without\nanesthetic, delivering 350 babies and performing four cesarean\nsections.\n    He worked 18-to-19-hour days, slept in the hospital for the\nfirst 10 weeks after his arrival last Aug. 5 and treated  4,000\npatients.\n    He arrived after making the trek over mountains on foot from\nTuzla, 60 miles northwest of Srebrenica. About 50 other people\ncarried in supplies and 350 soldiers guided and protected him\nthrough guerrilla terrain, he said.\n    His worst memory was of 10 days ago when seven Serb shells\nlanded within one minute in an area half the size of a football\nfield, killing 36 people immediately and wounding 102. Half of\nthe dead were women and children.\n    The people had come out for a rare day of sunshine and the\nchildren were playing soccer. ``There was no warning ... the\nblood flowed like a river in the street,'' he said.\n    ``There were pieces of women all around and you could not\npiece them together. One woman holding her two children in her\nhands was lying with them on the ground dead. They had no\nheads.''\n    Before Mujanovic arrived with his supplies conditions were\ndeplorable, he said. Many deaths could have been prevented had\nthe hospital had surgical tools, facilities and medicine.\n    The six general practitioners who had been operating before\nhe arrived had even less surgical experience than he did. ``They\ndidn't know the basic principles for amputating limbs.''\n    Once he arrived the situation improved, he said, but by\nmid-September he had run out of supplies.\n    ``Bandages were washed and boiled five times ... sometimes\nthey were falling apart in my hands,'' he said. Doctors had no\nanesthetic and could not give patients alcohol to numb the pain\nbecause it increased bleeding.\n    ``People were completely conscious during amputations and\nstomach operations,'' he said. Blood transfusions were\nimpossible because they had no facilities to test blood types.\n    ``I felt destroyed psychologically,'' Mujanovic said.\n    The situation improved after Dec. 4, when a convoy arrived\nfrom the Belgian medical group Medecins Sans Frontieres.\n    But Mujanovic said the military predicament worsened in\nmid-December after Bosnian Serbs began a major offensive in the\nregion. ``Every day we had air strikes and shellings.''\n    Then the hunger set in.\n    Between mid-December and mid-March, when U.S. planes began\nair dropping food, between 20 and 30 people were dying every day\nfrom complications associated with malnutrition, he said.\n    ``I know for sure that the air drop operation saved the\npeople from massive death by hunger and starvation,'' he said.\n    According to Mujanovic, around 5,000 people died in\nSrebrenica, 1,000 of them children, during a year of siege.\n    Mujanovic plans to return to Srebrenica in three weeks after\nvisiting his wife, who is ill in Tuzla.\n    ``They say I'm a hero,'' he said. ``There were thousands of\npeople standing at the sides of the road, crying and waving when\nI left. And I cried too.''\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nI don't know.  Does anyone in NASA land know how much fuel is\nbudgeted for the altitude change?\n\nHenry,  any figures on the mass  (full)  for the EDO pallet  plus\nit's dry weight?  How about for the dry mass of Bus-1?  it was\nbeing de-classified as i checked last.\n\nAlso, I need.\n\n1)  current orbital parameters of HST \n\n2)  projected  orbital parameters after re-boost.\n\n3)  Discovery's  DRY weight\n\n4) HST's Dry weight.\n\n\n\nSo how long do they need to train?  a year?  2 years?  somehow\nI think 2-3 moths should be adequate.\n\n\nAlso because they significantly lacked on-orbit EVA experience.  \nThe HST is designed for on-orbit servicing.  it should be a lot easier.\n\n\nThere comes a time in every project, to kill the management.\n\nThey can if neccessary, re-schedule the  HST mission.  December is\nnot a drop dead date, unlike say the LDEF retrieval mission.  \n\n\n\nI suspect, the BUS-1, may not have enough basic thrust for the HST\nre-boost.  it mayu need bigger tanks,  or bigger thrusters.\n\n\nMy understanding is the Second HST servicing mission is not\na contingency.  My understanding is the mission  needs both\na new FOC  and work on the electrical system,  plus\nanother re-boost.   \n\n\nSomehow, i think the cost of an expendable SMT will be less then\n$500 million.\n\nand the extra stuff is real cheap.  NASA has lots of suits,  MMU's,\nand the EDO pallets are re-usable.  Oh, one double magnum of champagne,\nnow there's a couple hundred bucks.\n\n\n\n\n\nThat door has cycled, X times already.  Once after massive G loading.\nI somehow think they can work ou;reliability  methods to ensure the\ndoor works.\n\nAlso,  please tell me how some sort of sublimated  material  like\nCO2, or H2O  would manage to contaminate the mirror,  anything\nthat goes to vapor state, shouldn't adhere to the mirror.\n\nsomehow, the door,  problem can be worked.  maybe they can put a one\ntime spring on it.\n\nwhat do they do now, if the door hangs up.  that door is part\nof a intrument safing mechanism.  if it hangs up tomorrow,  it'll\nbe 8 months until someone gets up there witha crowbar to fix it.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"A while ago there was a reference to a paper on a crypto file\nsystem (CFS) given by someone at at AT&T (?).   How can I\nget a copy?   Is it available on the net?   Was it published?\nWho was the author?\n\n   Thanks\n   ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"For Sale:\n\nMinolta Master Series-C50 VHS-C Camcorder Forsale\n-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\n\n Multidimensional Autofocus System\n 6x power zoom\n Charge coupled device\n Dual-area autoexposure system (for backlit subjects)\n High-speed digital shutter 1\/1000 sec\n Dual Mode Self Timer\n Date\/time insert\n Linear tape counter\n Power focus\n Advanced Auto white balance system\n MIC jack, DC OUT, REMOTE connector, earphone minijack\n\n Excellent condition, used several times in two years\n Original box and packing\n AC Adapter\/Charger  VAC-500U\n One standard VBP-500 (60 min)\n One extra VBP-501 (80 min)\n Cassette Adapter AD-2 (for full size VHS viewing)\n bunch of miscellaneous extras (RF adapter,cords, etc)\n\n Available immediately\n\n Price $550.00 US firm\n\n Shipping extra\n\nPlease email responses to:","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nThe number bounces between 2% and 18%, depending on the study quoted and\nthe type of gun being studied.\n\nSome cites:\n\n---------------------------------------\n\nA recent BATF study (titled \"Protecting America, Yes\") surveyed 471 career \ncriminals and found that only 7% of guns used in violent crimes were\npurchased from retail dealers.\n\n---------------------------------------\n\nNational Institute of Justice\nResearch in Brief\n\nNovember 1986\n\n                        The Armed Criminal in America\n                              by James D. Wright\n\n(1) Legitimate firearms retailers play only a minor role as direct\n    sources of handguns for adult felony offenders.\n\nOnly about one-sixth of the gun-owning felons obtained their most\nrecent handguns through a customary retail transaction involving a\nlicensed firearms dealer.  The remainder -- five out of six --\nobtained them via informal, off-the-record transactions involving\nfriends and associates, family members, and various black market\noutlets.  The means of acquisition from these informal sources\nincluded cash purchase, swaps and trades, borrowing and renting, and\noften theft.  The criminal handgun market is overwhelmingly dominated\nby informal transactions and theft as mechanisms of supply.\n\n---------------------------------------\n\nINDEPENDENCE ISSUE PAPER No. 4- 91\nIndependence Institute\n14142 Denver West Parkway #101\nGolden, CO 80401 \n(303) 279-6536\n\n              WHY GUN WAITING PERIODS THREATEN PUBLIC SAFETY\n                             By David B. Kopel\n\n     The basic problem with waiting periods is shown by a Bureau of Alcohol,\nTobacco and Firearms study of gun dealer sales in Des Moines and Greenville.\nThe study found that about one to two percent of sales were to dangerous\ncriminals.[51]  In short, waiting periods have no statistically noticeable\nimpact on any type of crime because only a tiny fraction of crime guns\nare purchased at retail by ineligible buyers.\n\n51. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, Assistant Director of Criminal\nEnforcement, Memorandum to Director, July 10, 1975 (Greenville survey; of\n20,047 names submitted to FBI for record checks, 68 had felony convictions;\nof those, 41 had not been represented by counsel at their conviction or who\ncommitted crimes in the distant past; twenty-seven buyers were prosecuted)\n(of the 1.3% of buyers selected for prosecution, .9% had non-violent felony\nconvictions, and .4% had violent convictions). Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and\nFirearms, Assistant Director for Criminal Enforcement, memorandum to\nDirector, May 8, 1975 (of 374 records checked, 39 were purchasers with felony\nrecords who were not appropriate for prosecution because of age or\nnon-violent nature of felony; six purchasers were prosecuted).\n\n---------------------------------------\n\nINDEPENDENCE ISSUE PAPER No. 12-91\n\n                          THE ASSAULT WEAPON PANIC:\n                      POLITICAL CORRECTNESS\" TAKES AIM\n                            AT THE CONSTITUTION\n\n                      By Eric Morgan and David Kopel\n\n     Testimony before Congress revealed that most \"assault weapons\" in the\nhands of criminals were obtained through illegal channels.{97}  The testimony\nis consistent with the National Institute of Justice's research findings\nbased on studies of felons in state prisons. The NU study, authored by\nsociologists James D. Wright and Peter Rossi found that only sixteen percent\nof criminals had obtained their most recent handgun from a gun store. (The\nfigures included purchases by legal surrogates, rather than directly by the\ncriminal.) Wright and Rossi, who had begun their research as firm proponents\nof gun control, concluded that no set of controls on retail purchases, and\nprobably not even full scale gun prohibition, would reduce criminal use of\nguns. Wright and Rossi suggested that lawmakers concerned about gun crime\ndirectly target the black market in criminal guns, and\nleave the legitimate retail market alone.{98}   Not surprisingly, Wright\nbelieves that the consequences of current \"assault weapon\" legislation on\nstreet violence are likely to be ineffective.{99}   He warns that gun\ncontrols aimed at ordinary citizens are less likely to reduce the pool of\ncriminal guns than to provide organized crime with lucrative new\nbusiness.{100}\n\n6.   _See, _e.g., The Anti-drug, Assault Weapons Limitation Act of 1989. S.\nRep. No. 160, 101st. Cong., 1st. Sess. 6-8 (1989) [hereinafter SENATE REPORT]\n(introduced by Senator DeConcini to reduce semiautomatic firearms abuse by\ndrug traffickers and violent criminals); Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control\nAct of 1989, CAL. PENAL CODE $$ 12275-12290 (West 1990) [hereinafter Roberti-\nRoos]; MD. ANN. CODE art. 27 $$ 442,481E (1989) (placing greater restrictions\non 17 varieties of \"assault weapons,\" and providing punishments for failure\nto comply or attempts to evade).\n\n97.  SENATE REPORT, _supra note 6, at 17.\n\n98.  James Wright & Peter Rossi, ARMED AND CONSIDERED DANGEROUS: A SURVEY OF\nFELONS AND THEIR FIREARMS (New York: Aldine de Gruyter, 1986).\n\n99.  _Lock _and _Load _for _the _Gunfight _of _'89, U.S. NEWS & WORLD REP.,\nMarch 27, 1989, at 9 [hereinafter _Gunfight]. Wright also said, \"If criminals\ncan get all the drugs they want, they can get guns, too.\" _Id.\n\n100. James Wright, \"Second Thoughts About Gun Control,\" 91 _The _Public\n_Interest (Spring 1988), at 30-3 1.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Disaster! Finland was beaten by Czech 1-3 (0-0,1-1,0-2).\nFinland will be 4th of pool B and will most certainly meet Canada in the\nquarter final on wednesday 28th. Lack of scoring skills has\nbeen the major problem of team Finland throughout the tournament.\nBriza (goalie)  was the MVP of  the Czech team and Tikkanen was the \nMVP of the Finnish team. ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"My brother's affine has recently been diagnosed with Sweet's\nsyndrome. Also called steroid resistant Sweet's syndrome.\n\n\tThis syndrome started after she had had Iodine 131 treatment for\nhyperthyroidism. She'd been reluctant to have treatment for the\nhyperthyroidism for many years and apparently started to show exaustion\nfrom it. \n\n\tI understand that she may still be testing high in thyroid level\nbut she's isn't being treated by an endocrinologist. Her previous\nendocrinologist bowed out when she entered the hospital. She entered the\nhospital because of the Sweet's syndrome symptoms (skin lesions).\n\nI've looked through the last two years of Medline and didn't find an\nabstract mentioning a correlation between thyroid and Sweets. . \n\nI checked a handbook which said that Sweet's was associated with leukemia.\n\nI'd like a reccomndation for experts who are in New York City or who travel\nto New York City. For the sweets and perhaps for the endocrinology.\n\nAny information that might help. Apparently there hasn't been much\nimprovement in her condition over the past several months. ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Hi:\n\nI need some advice (opinions?) regarding which PC would best suit my needs!\nI want to use this (proposed) beast for basically four things:  \n\n     -\tEditing documents using WordPerfect 5.1 (under dos)\n\n     -\tCreating graphs\/analyzing data using Sigmaplot V5.0 (under dos)\n\n     -\tEditing\/playing with images using Aldus PhotoStyler, running under \n\tWindows 3.1 - these images can be large, say 2k x 2k, 24bits\/pixel\n\n     -\tUsing the PC as an Xterminal, running DesqView\/X 1.1 and Sun PC-NFS, \n\ttalking to our network of Sparcstation's - this is where a lot of\n\tthe images\/data come from, and is the most demanding of these tasks.\n\nI've read, read, read PC magazines, performed benchmarks, read this newsgroup,\nand decided that a \"nice\" system (price\/performance) would be:\n\n\t486DX-50 256k cache, ISA, VLB, 16meg ram\n\tATI Graphics Ultra Pro, 2 meg ram, local bus\n\t15\" monitor, 1280x1024 NI\n\t3Com Etherlink III 16bit\n\tMaxtor 240MB IDE hard drive\n\nHowever, the parts don't fit!  Our local retailer apparently put one of these\ntogether, only to discover that the ATI card wouldn't run at 50MHz - surprise\nsurprise.  Actually, after reading this group, I'm surprised that they even\nhave a 50MHz local bus running...\n\nI have a choice now between basically the above system but with a\n486DX2-66 with ISA and VLB,  or,   a 486DX-50 with EISA and no VLB (and thus\nthe non-local bus version of the ATI card).  Which is better, keeping in mind\nthat I'm primarily interested in the last two tasks?  \n\nAny help would be greatly appreciated!  (I need to decide quickly, so any \nspeedy help would be appreciated even more!!)\n\n\n\nBTW: We have a system now to perform these tasks, it has the following \nconfiguration:\n\n\t486DX-33 64k cache, ISA, 8 meg ram\n\tATI Graphics Ultra+, 2 meg ram\n\t14\" monitor, 1024x768 NI\n\tSMC Ethercard 8 bit\n\tMaxtor 120MB IDE hard drive\n\nWe're quite happy with the ATI card - very fast, ONCE the data gets to it!!\n~Slow~ repainting images under PhotoStyler that have moved off screen, or\nbeen uncovered!  \n\nThere doesn't seem to be enough raw cpu when running DesqView\/X!  Its sluggish\nrunning the local window manager.  Also, many functions under PhotoStyler take\na long time (even when the images fit entirely in ram).\n\nThere's not enough memory in the system - DesqView\/X and a 1 meg SmartDrive\ndon't leave much room for other apps.  Photostyler will page to disk with\nmedium size images.\n\nI have performed a number of benchmarks on the ethernet transfer rates.  This\nmachine sustains only 120k\/sec over ethernet while our Sparcs sustain 600k\/sec \non the same network.  Going to the 16 bit version of the SMC card increases\ntransfer rates to 160k\/sec - still very slow (especially when moving large \nimages).  Is there such a thing as a local-bus ethernet card coming??  Will it\nmake a difference?  I'm hoping so, and leaning towards the 486DX2-66 choice \n(above), for that reason.\n\nAlso, are there DX2-100's on the horizon?  What about DX3-99's?  DX3-150's ???!\n\nAny information is greatly appreciated.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":": Ok, a few days back, the below-included message was posted stating: \n: \n: >     I believe with everything in my heart that on May 3, 1993, the city of\n: >Portland, Oregon in the country of the United States of America will be hit\n: >with a catastrophic and disastrous earthquake...\n: \n: By now, we know that this did not come to pass....\n: \n: ...I don't think it's particularly \n: glorifying to God to say things like \"Well, I THINK the Lord is telling me...\", \n: ..Such statements seem to me to be an attempt to get a spiritual thrill should \n: the guess happen to come true, without risking the guilt of false prophecy \n: should it fail to come to pass.  I do not believe genuine prophecy was ever \n: like this.  Comments?\n: \n\nI agree.   People should not be misled to believe \"thus sayeth the Lord\" by\ninnuendo or opinion or speculation.\n\nSpeak directly.  If the Lord has given you something to say, say it.\nBut, before I declare \"thus sayeth the Lord\", I'd better know for certain\nwithout a shadow of a doubt that I am in the correct spiritual condition\nand relationship with the Lord to receive such a prophecy and be absolutely\ncertain, again, without the tiniest shadow of a doubt that there is no\npossibility of my being misled by my own imaginations or by my hope of gaining\nrecognition or of being misled by the wiles of the devil and his followers.\n\nMistakes in this area are costly and dangerous.  For me, my greatest fears\nin this area would be the following:\n\n1--that the people would be misled\n2--that people would lose respect for christianity\n3--that true prophecy would be clouded by all the false prophecies\n4--were God to call me to be a prophet and I were to misrepresent God's Word,\n   my calling would be lost forever.  God's Word would command the people\n   never to listen to or fear my words as I would be a false prophet.  My\n   bridges would be burnt forever.  Perhaps I could repent and be saved, but\n   I could never again be a prophet of God.\n\nIn the light of this, it is critical that we speak when the Lord says speak\nand that we be silent when the Lord says to be silent lest we deprive the\nworld of God's Word and hide it under a bushel either by our inappropriate,\ncowardly silence or by our false statements.  And because of this, it\nis critically important that we remain close to the Lord, in His Word, and\nin prayer, and filled with the Spirit of God so that we know the difference.\n\nIn this day and age, sinners spout off their mouths left and right judging\none another, claiming \"rights\" that are not theirs, denying rights that do\nindeed belong to others, demanding equal respect for all the \"gods\" of this\nworld, and uttering every form of falseness that promises to make one feel\ngood.\n\nIt's time that we christians give an example of honesty that stands out in\ncontrast against this backdrop of falsehood.  When we say, \"thus sayeth the\nLord\", it happens.  When we pray, prayer is answered because we prayed right.\nWhen we say we're christians, we really mean it.\n\n           Dan\n\n--\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------\n\t\"I deplore the horrible crime of child murder...\n\t We want prevention, not merely punishment.\n\t We must reach the root of the evil...\n\t It is practiced by those whose inmost souls revolt\n\t from the dreadful deed...\n\t No mater what the motive, love of ease,\n\t\tor a desire to save from suffering the unborn innocent,\n\t\tthe woman is awfully guilty who commits the deed...\n\t but oh! thrice guilty is he who drove her\n\t\tto the desperation which impelled her to the crime.\"","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Turkish Genocide Apology in revision <9304261646@zuma.UUCP> posted via its\n\n[fool] Thanks to those who joined millions of Turkish and Kurdish people \n[fool] on April 23, 1993 when they remembered, mourned and prayed for 2.5 \n[fool] million Muslim people who were ruthlessly exterminated by the fascist \n[fool] x-Soviet Armenian Government between 1914 and 1920.\n\nI tend to doubt this for there was no ex-Soviet Armenian government between\n1914 and 1920! Revisionist, liar, AND fool!\n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"*** On 04-21-93  04:30, Michael Shapiro had the unmitigated gall to say this:\n\n MS> The DOS system date has a twenty-four hour clock and a rollover bit.\n MS> When the system crosses midnight, the rollover bit is turned on.  \n MS> Subsequent reads of the time add one.  There's no change possible\n\n MS> (This information was current up through DOS 3.3.  I've not checked to\n MS> see whether it applies to later versions.)\n\nJust a small tidbit: with the advent of DOS 3.3 and later versions, MS added\na small \"feature\" to the DOS time function.  If a program sets the DOS clock\nvia DOS system services, then DOS will set the BIOS clock to the same value.\nThis breaks the isolation between the two clocks that used to ensure that\nerrors in the DOS clock did not bleed over into the BIOS clock.\n\nSometimes the Microsoft people just don't think! :)\n\n... Fact:  Mickey Mouse wears a Al Gore wristwatch.\n--- Blue Wave\/QWK v2.10\n                                                                                                       ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nWell, it depends on what kind of locking lugnuts you have.  My previous\ncar had locking lugnuts that weighed about 2.5oz. more than the others. \nThe locking lugnuts were factory equipment, and according to the factory\nservice manual, after tire balancing the technician\/mechanic was\nsupposed to put a 1\/2 oz. counterweight on the rim opposite the locking\nnut.  I always had vibration problems with those stupid lugnuts since no\none ever did the service correctly. I eventually got rid of the locking\nlugnuts and replaced them with the standard lugnuts.  Unfortunately, I\nfound out about the counterweighting technique 6 months after I got rid\nof the locking nuts. :-(\n\nMy present car, a Saturn SC, has locking lugnuts that I bought at the\ndealer and are made specifically for the Saturn.  They have been made to\nbe exactly the same weight as the non-locking lugnuts (said so on the\npackage and I verified it myself).  I haven't had any vibration problems\nwith the tires at all (due to the nuts) in 12,000 of ownership.  I did\nhave some other vibration problems, but it was due to a poor job of tire\nbalancing.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nDos 5 never used the area $E000 - $EFFF, as well as some others. If you have \nany cards that use this are (such as a LAN card), you might get this \nproblem.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":" \nInteresting idea.  \nRegular televeision seems to do this sort of thing too with politically correct  \nshows.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Xm++\/CommonInteract    Another User Interface Development System\n-------------------\n\nIf you would like to implement X-Toolkit applications with C++ in a style\nlike this...\n\n\/\/ mini sample application \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\n\nclass Test : public XmWindow {\n\tvoid cmd(char*);\n\tvoid quit(void*);\npublic:\n    Test() : XmWindow(\"Xm++ Test Window\") {}\n\n\tvoid initialize();\n};\n\nvoid Test::initialize() {\n    XmDropdownMenu* menu = createDropdownMenu();\n\n    menu->addLabel(\"&File\");\n    menu->addItems( Entry(\"Menu Item &One\", CB(Test::cmd)), \n                    Entry(\"Menu Item &Two\", CB(Test::cmd)),\n                    NULLENTRY);\n    menu->addSeparator();\n    menu->addItem(\tEntry(\"E&xit\", CB(Test::quit)));\n\n    addSubpane(Edit, \"myEdit\");\n    edit(\"myEdit\")->setText(\"Hello World.\");\n}\n\nvoid Test::cmd(char* n) {\n\tedit(\"myEdit\")->setText(n);\n}\n\nvoid Test::quit(void*) {\n\texit(0);\n}\n\nvoid XmApp::initialize() {\n    (new Test)->initialize();\n}\n\n\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\n\n...then continue reading (contents of the current release's README):\n\nXm++ is a user interface framework for the C++ language built upon X11\nand the X-Toolkit. It is designed to be a simple and intuitive programming\ninterface to access the functionality of commonly used widgets.\nXm++ was initially created for the Motif widget set, now support for the\nAthena widgets was added. Applications created with Xm++ run in both\nenvironments without changes, although many nice features are only\navailable when using Motif.\nIn some situations Xm++ extends the underlying toolkit (i.e. providing\na ComboBox borrowed from MS-Windows), but never tries to replace it -\ndata of user interface objects is left to the widgets and only duplicated\nin rare cases.\n\nXm++ has nothing common with Motif++ besides the general idea to\nencapsulate Motif widgets in C++ objects and the '++' in it's name. Many\nideas for the Xm++ architecture came from Digitalk's Smalltalk version,\nwhich provides an easy to use framework for Windows\/PM\/Mac applications\n(in the very first time of development I used the Windows dialog editor and\na simple parser to create similar Smalltalk and Xm++ dialogs :-).\n\nTop level objects in Xm++:\n* 'Windows', 'SystemDialogs' and 'ToolBoxes' which use the automatic layout\n  feature of various composite widgets in Motif and Xaw\n* 'UserDialogs' which can be individually laid out with a user interface\n  builder (a first version of such a dialog editor is included in this\n  distribution)\n\nControls (children of top level objects):\n'staticText', 'staticImage', 'pushButton', 'checkBox', 'radioButton',\n'edit', 'listBox', 'comboBox', 'groupBox', 'paneArea', 'drawing', 'toolBar'\n\nThe staticImage and all the button classes can display b\/w (X-bitmap\nformat) or color (GIF format) pictures as an alternative to a label text.\n\nEvent handling is done by a simple but powerful mechanism which redirects\nXt callbacks to member functions of Xm++ objects.\n\n\nCommonInteract(II) is built upon the Xm++ drawing class and provides\ncomponents for building direct manipulative applications. Is is a very\nsimplified implementation of some features from the CommonInteract system\n(research project of our institute in 1991), an approach to define a\nsoftware achitecture for implementing direct manipulative applications\nwith multiple interaction media (i.e. sound, alternative input devices).\nIf you are interrested, look into the June 1993 issue of the JOOP (SIGS\nPublications - Journal of Object Oriented Programming) - there should be\nour paper about CommonInteract (but be aware, that it is our 'state of\nthe art' from 1991).\nCommonInteract(II) is still undocumented and is included because it was\nused to implement the dialog editor. It currently supports only drawing\nprimitives (lines, rectangles, circles...), but we plan to extend it to\nsupport bitmaps and some controls also.\nKnown problem: the Xm++ drawing class has no redrawing strategy (always\nredraws the whole window, even after minimal changes like selecting an\nobject), this looks very ugly on slow displays and should be fixed.\n\n\nAbout this first release:\n\nXm++ is still incomplete and has a lot of bugs but we are using it here\nfor smaller applications which are running without problems. So I think\nI can call it a 'beta release' which can be used to develop applications\nfor any non-critical purposes.\nCommonInteract may be called a 'pre alpha release'. It's development will\nbe continued this year because we plan to use it for another research\nproject here. Besides incompleteness and the redrawing problem it seems\nto be stable and can be used for experimental applications.\n\nPlatforms: this release was compiled and tested on:\n  HP9000\/720 running HP-UX 8.07\n  SUN SPARC running SunOS Release 4.1.1\n  PC-AT386 running Linux v0.99pl6\n\nCaution: although the whole stuff was initially developed using an AT&T\nstandard C++ compiler - this release is tested only with GNU g++ 2.3.3 or\nabove (the next release will be tested with both compilers).\n\nWhere to get it:\n================\n\nI have uploaded it on: export.lcs.mit.edu as: \/contrib\/Xm++.0.5.tar.Z\n\n(send a mail, if you cannot find it there, e-mail addr. below)\n\nWhere to find more information:\n===============================\n\nthe ...\/doc directory contains\n   INSTALL - how to build the libraries and examples\n   README.GNU - problems and limitations when using gnu g++ (read!!)\n   usersGuide.txt - a tutorial how to use Xm++\n   reference.txt - a first try of a Xm++ class reference manual\n\nthe README files in the ...\/samples gives a brief description of\neach of the seven samples.\n\n\nXm++\/CommonInteract is free software for any non-profit purposes,\nsee the file ...\/lib\/COPYRIGHT for details.\n\nSend any comments, bug reports and donations :-) to the Author:\n\n    Bernhard Strassl\n    Vienna User Interface Group\n\tInstitute for Applied Computer Science and Information Systems\n    University of Vienna\n    Lenaugasse 2\/8, A-1080 Wien, Austria","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Here is a press release from Medical Science Communications.\n\n Results of GUSTO Heart Attack Study to be Released Friday\n To: Assignment Desk, Medical Writer\n Contact: Jim Augustine of Medical Science Communication,\n          703-644-6824, or Steve Hull or Tracy Furey,\n          800-477-9626 or April 29-30, 202-393-2000 or\n          202-662-7592 (J.W. Marriott)\n\n   News Advisory:\n\n   Results of the largest heart attack study ever undertaken,\nthe Global Utilization of Streptokinase and t-PA for Occluded\nCoronary Arteries trial (GUSTO), will be presented Friday, April\n30, at the Clinical Research Meeting.\n   A press conference will be held at 12:30 p.m.\n   GUSTO evaluates the most aggressive emergency-room treatment\nstrategies available to clear blocked heart arteries and restore\nblood flow to the heart, a process called thrombolysis.  The\nthrombolytic strategies compared in GUSTO use powerful drugs to break\nup blood clots in heart vessels quickly and prevent clots from\nrecurring.  These strategies have never been compared directly in a\nlarge-scale clinical trial until GUSTO.  The results are expected to\nhave an important impact on heart attack treatment worldwide.\n   The press conference will be held at two locations: live at the\nNational Press Club, Main Lounge, 13th Floor, 529 14th St., N.W.,\nWashington D.C., and via satellite at The Hotel Macklowe, 145 W. 44th\nStreet, 4th Floor, New York City, between Broadway and 6th Avenue.\n   GUSTO results will be presented by Eric Topol M.D., GUSTO Study\nChairman, professor and chairman of the Department of Cardiology at\nThe Cleveland Clinic Foundation; Robert Califf, M.D., clinical\ndirector, GUSTO Coordinating Center and Associate Professor of\nMedicine at Duke University Medical Center; and Allan Ross, M.D.,\ncoordinator of the GUSTO Angiographic Substudy and professor and\ndirector of the Division of Cardiology at The George Washington\nUniversity Medical Center.\n    ------\n   Editorial Notes\/Attention television: The press conference may be\nviewed in its entirety via satellite starting at 12:30 p.m. (EDT)\nC-band Telestar 302, Transponder 2V (dual audio 6.2, 6.8) or KUSBS6,\nTransponder 8.  Following the press conference, there will be a news\npackage and b-roll feed.  Camera-ready illustrations also will be\navailable at the press conference.\n   Telephone hook up to the press conference is planned.\nAvailability is limited; please call MCS for more information.\n   For reporters who will be at the Sheraton Washington attending the\nClinical Research Meeting on Friday morning, minibus transportation\nwill be provided to the press conference.  The bus will depart at\n12 p.m.; it also will be available for return to the Sheraton\nafter the press conference.\n   For more information, contact Steve Hull or Tracy Furey of MCS,\nfor the GUSTO Study Group, at 800-477-9626; or at the J.W. Marriott\nApril 29 to April 30 at 202-393-2000 or 202-662-7592.  For more\ninformation about the Clinical Research Meeting, contact Jim\nAugustine of Medical Science Communications at 703-644-6824.\n\n -30-","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"When will I be able to call my favorite mail order software shop and buy\nNT?","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nDo you mean a prog. that doesn't jump to the DOS display and then back or \ncreate a temp. DOS window?\n\nIf yes then I might recommend WinZip from ftp.cica.indiana.edu.  I'm afraid \nI don't have the file name or version but you should be able to find it.\n\nIt's fully compatible with ver. 2.04g and very functional.\n\nLater,\n\nPhil Trodwell ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"gee.... is it 1999 already?\n\nYes, it will still be on the fox program chasis, anything that will be different\non the new car as far as mechanical's is unknown. The suspension will most\nlikely be changed, as well as the drive drain. From what has been printed on\nit, there is no clear idea of what will be done, as some say it will have\nthe modular V8 and others the current small block... just have to wait and see\nAlso is far as styling goes from what I seen is good, a return to tradition.\nC scoop on the sides and roof line much like a '65 or '66 fastback.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nI have not made up my mind about Waco, but there sure seems to be a group of  \ndevoted government following fanatics willing to believe whatever that  \ngovernment wants to tell them, without any shred of doubt, nor thought of thier  \nown.  They sure get shrill whenever their belief structure is being shaken.\n\nKinda reminds you of the BDs, doesn't it?\n\nJim\n--\njmd@handheld.com","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"& >I'm not familiar with the trannies used in Winston Cup, but in the trans-am\n& >cars I've played with the  transmissions were the racing variety, with\n& >dog clutches instead of sychros.  In a transmission with dog clutches, the\n& >gears are always  engaged with each other and moving the dog clutches\n& >engages the gears to the shafts.  Motorcycle transmissions are the same way.\n& >Shifting without the clutch on a transmission with syncros can and will cause\n& >transmission damage, the only question being how long it  takesto grenade\n& >something (for the trans in my 87  Pulsar SE, it was  about 3-5k miles, but\n& >it had a weak  tranny in the first place).\n& \n& just out of curiosity, how is this \"dog clutch\" any different from a synchro\n& transmission.  What you described SOUNDS the same to me.  In fact, what little\n& i've studied on trannies, the instructor referred to the synchros as \"dogs\"\n& and said they were synonymous.  The gears are always meshed in a synchronized\n& gearbox, and you slip the synchro gears back and forth by shifting. Or at least,\n& that is what i was taught.  Explain, por favour?\n\nMotorcycle transmissions don't have synchros.  The engagment dogs are very\ncorse and sloppy.  There are maybe 6-10 teeth (dogs) on the side of the\ngears that engage the next gear over as the forks slide the gears back\nand forth.  To shift:  start to apply pressure at the same time the\nclutch is pulled (the clutch is a hand lever) and shift quickly.  If \nyou try a slow lazy shift it will grind, you just have to pop it into\nthe next gear before it has a chance to grind.  There isn't a neutral\nbetween gears (obviously there is, but you can't select it with the\nshifter) so double clutching is not a possibility.  \"speed shifting\"\n(which is what I have always heard \"clutchless shifting\" called) works\npretty well for upshifts with some practice, but I usually use the\nclutch-especially for the lower gears.\n\nI think auto (as in automobile) trannys are similar, except that the\nengagment dogs are very fine, with no slop.  And the addition of\nsyncho rings.  The gear teeth are always engaged in auto transmissions\nthat are synchronized, but may not be in non-synchro gears (reverse\nand sometimes first).  \n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nI certainly like this \"Option C\"...  It's much more like the original\nPhase B studies from the early 1970's.  Good stuff!\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"--\n\nThe GT was based on the Kadette chassis. It was built model years 1969-1973.\nThe Manta came out in the 1974 model year and was a 4 seat coupe.\n\n\n---------------------------------------------------------------------------\nMatthew R. Singer                                    MIT Lincoln Laboratory\n(617) 981-3771                                       244 Wood Street\nsinger@ll.mit.edu                                    Lexington, MA 02173","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n > I would rather spend an eternity in Hell than be beside God in\n > Heaven knowing that even one man would spend his \"eternal life\"\n > being scorched for his wrongdoings....\n\nStephen, I suspect that when you and I use the word \"Hell,\" we have\ndifferent concepts in mind. When you encounter references to Heaven\nin terms of crowns and harps and golden streets, I trust that you do\nnot suppose (or suspect Christians of supposing) that the golden\nstreets are to be taken literally, still less that they are what the\nconcept of Heaven is all about. Why then should you suppose that\nabout the \"fires\" of Hell?\n     Have you read the novel ATLAS SHRUGGED? Do you remember the\nlast description of James Taggart, sitting on the floor beside the\nFerris Persuader? This comes close to a description of what is meant\nby Hell in my circles. If the image of fire is often used in this\nconnection, there are two reasons that occur to me.\n     The first reason is that it conveys the idea of Hell as\nsomething that any rational being would earnestly wish to avoid (as\nany rational being would wish to avoid the fate of James Taggart --\nbut the latter image is meaningful only to those who have read ATLAS\nSHRUGGED, a smaller audience than those who have played with\nmatches).\n     The second reason is the history of the Hebrew word \"Gehenna,\"\none of the words translated \"Hell\" in the New Testament. It refers\nto the valley of Hinnon, outside Jerusalem. In early days, it was a\nplace where the Canaanites offered human sacrifices (burned alive)\nto Molech. Later, it was made a garbage or refuse dump, where fires\nburned continually, consuming the trash of the city of Jerusalem.\n\"To be cast into Gehenna\" or \"to burn in Gehenna\" thus became a\nmetaphor for \"to be rejected or discarded as worthless.\"\n\nLest you think that identifying Hell with the fate of James Taggart\nis my own private fancy, I commend to you the book THE GREAT\nDIVORCE, by C S Lewis. It discusses Heaven (no harps) and Hell (no\nflames). It is shorter than ATLAS SHRUGGED, and available at most\nbookstores and libraries.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nAbsolutely not.  I went through a \"journey\" of lukewarm Christianity,\nagnosticism, atheism, agnosticism, and now (although I know my faith\nis less than what it should be) Christianity again.  I think it's a path\nmany of us take.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\tYup.  Radar detectors that detect Ka band will pick up photo radar\nas it's reflected from some poor slob ahead of you that just got nailed.\n\n\tBTW, many photo radar installations in the southern U.S. became\ntargets for high-powered rifles, or had their lenses \"decorated\" with cow\nflop, etc.  Not that I'm advocating destruction of public property, but you\nget the picture....\n\nLater,","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"In some hobby shop, they sell a flexible tube (1\/4-inch diameter,\n18-inch ling) that will illuminate if you bend or shake it (it\nis also sold in amusement parks in the evenings). The brightness\ncan last 2 to 4 hours. If it is left in refrigrator (in coldness),\nyou can prolong its life of illumination.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"You should wear your nicest boxer shorts and bring plenty of SPF 45+ \nsunscreen.  I'll grab my bathing suit, towerl and some veggie hotdogs and we \ncan have bonfire cookout!!\nDoes that sound good enough to you, Dean?\nEVERY a.a poster is invited!!!","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I'm running HP-UX 8.07 with HP VUE 2.01 and I need a hardcopy of\n  the login window (the one asking  for login and password) to \n  include in a manual. \n  I have tried:\n   xwd -display hostname:0 -root -out login.xwd \n\n  from a login on a remote terminal, but it doesn't work. \n  Xwd seems to wait for the window server, but the window\n  server doesn't answer. \n\n  Any suggestions? I must use xwd because I don't have access to\n  ftp and I can't obtain another program to grab the screen.\n\n  Thanks in advance\n                                           Nadia Pitacco\n\n-- ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Does anyone know if there are any problems (or if it's possible)\nadding a third hard drive(scsi) to a dos pc.\n\nI currently have a 386 pc with  Future Domain scsi board  and  2\nMaxtor  scsi  drives  installed.  They work great, I haven't had\nany problems!\n\nWell, now I want more disk space and went out and  got   another\n(larger)  scsi   hard  disk  thinking all I had to do was add it\nto the chain(50pin ribbon  that  has  3  connectors)   and   run\nthe   fdisk   program   to format\/initialize the disk.\n\nThat didn't happen.  When the pc boots, the  scsi  prom   shoots\nback   the  devices   that   are  attached  to  the board[target\n0\/target1\/target2].  All three disks are seen.\n\nWhen I run the dos fdisk program to format the disk, I choose to\nselect another  disk(option  5(dos6)) and voila, it's not there.\nThe first two disks show up no problem, but the  third  disk  is\nno-where to be found....\n\n\n\nARGH!\n\nIdeas anyone?????\n\nThanks in advance!\n\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------\nMike \"Migkiller\" Figueroa                               |\nSun Microsystems Computer Corporation                   |\nE-mail: maf@Corp.Sun.COM                               \t|\nWork: (415) 336-2798                                   (n)\n                                            X-----====(...)====-----X\n                                               X       +++       X\n                                                        ~\n                   \t\t\t   Sierra Hotel, and check six\n\t\t\t           \t\t   F16-FALCON","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\nwell, IMHO (and i am just a nobody net.user) henry spencer is to\nsci.* as kibo is to alt.* and rec.*....\n\n....but i could be wrong...(did anybody mention the illuminati)\n\nkitten\n--","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nWhen I have trouble it's usually because of water trapped by some\nremaining wax.  I don't see why you can't just let it evaporate; it\nshould do this eventually.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nBut in this case I said I hoped that BCCI was *not* an Islamic bank.\n\n\nBut in this case I said I hoped that BCCI was *not* an Islamic bank.\n\n\nBut in this case I said I hoped that BCCI was *not* an Islamic bank.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI guess he is right. Early versions of the RasterOps cards did not either,\nbut they fixed it, and people with problems can get a free ROM upgrade\nfrom RasterOps.\n\n\n\nVery easy. If you boot without the MODE32 control panel, then it will\ndisable (or rather not reinstall) the 32-bit clean patches. So when\nyou run OK you must be in 24-bit adressing mode. Check About this Macintosh\nand see if you havce a 12+MB system.\n\n\nsent seperately.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nOh, Bill, you are so full of shit.  That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.\n\n\n\n\nObMOTO:  I happened to miss the discussion of deltabox frames, if there was\none, because I actually needed to get some work done last week.  So if anybody\nwould care to repeat what got said (since I was the guy who asked, and I'm\nstill ignorant) could you email me?  Thanks.\n\n\n\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n  Well I think whenever ESPN covers the game they do a wonderful job. But\n   what I don't understand is that they cut the OT just show some stupid\n   baseball news which is not important at all. Then I waited for the scores\n   to comeon Sportscenter, but they talk about Baseball, basketball and \n   football. Then they showed Penguine highlight and went back to stupid\n   basketball. Finally they showed a highlight of the OT goal but that\n   was like 30 sec. I think they should give more attention to NHl during\n   the playoffs then talking about boring basketball games..\n\n   I guess it is NHL's fault too for leaving ESPN. Hope things improve\n   by next season...\n\n   COBRA\n\n\n-- \n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"<forgot to leave in his quote source>\n: >What happened in Waco is not the fault of the BATF. If they would of\n: >had the proper equipment and personal then they could of captured the\n: >compound on the initial assault and none of this would of happened.\nThe BATF is a part of the dept. of treasury, not justice.  If they needed\nto assault a place they could just do like the IRS does...call in the\nfederal marshalls service, their fugitive collection teams do similar type\nassaults all the time.  And they are very, very good about it, in both the\ntactical and legal parts of it.  But I suspect that the marshalls would\nnot have touched it, because the search warrant (which is still sealed I\nbelieve) was so bogus.  \n\nBesides the BATF also could have gotton SWAT teams from: federal marshalls\nservice; FBI; secret service; national park service; texas rangers; nearby\nlarge city police forces; the military.  But they had to use their own\nguys, nobody elses SWAT team was good enough for the holy cause of gun\ncontrol.   \n\n\tI also find the timing of the raid to be extremely interesting. \nInitial raid: two days before the NJ senate was going to overturn their\n\"assault weapon\" confiscation law; a couple weeks before the BATF's budget\nwas going to come up in congress for review;  shortly after Reno got\nconfirmed as AG (I don't need to remind you about her anti-gun line);\nright around the presidents 100th day in office.   As a wise man once\naction.    I don't believe that these four things are conincidental.  Do\nyou?  \n\n\nfood for thought...","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":" >politicians as deadly tax weapons needing to be confiscated!) If they are","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"[reply to roxannen@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.u]\n \n \nI just got back from the American Academy of Neurology annual meeting,\nwhere the consensus was that sumatriptan (Imitrex) has no advantages\nover DHE-45 nasal spray, which is much less expensive, has fewer side\neffects, is as effective, and works more quickly (5-10 minutes vs. 30).\nBesides, who wants to give themselves a shot (sumatriptan) when a nasal\nspray works?  DHE nasal spray is not widely available yet -- it has to\nbe mail ordered from one of a few pharmacies in the country -- but most\nneurologists now know about it and know how to order it.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I'm asking for help on a sticky problem involving unreasonably low\napparent precision in Z-buffering, that I've encountered in 2 different\nPEX implementations.  I can't find any discussion of this problem in any\nresources I can lay hands on (e.g. the comp.windows.x.pex FAQ, Gaskins's\n_PEXlib_Programming_Manual_, vendors' documentation).\n\nI'm posting this article by itself on comp.graphics, and virtually the\nsame article with a test program demonstrating the problem on\ncomp.windows.x.pex.  The problem is hard to describe without pictures,\nhence this article is longish.  If you can run PEXlib 5.x programs and\nare interested, I encourage you to build and run the test program in\ncomp.windows.x.pex to see the effect yourself and play with my approach\nto dealing with it.  (It depends on the utility code from the above\nGaskins book; instructions for fetching it via anonymous FTP are given.)\n\nThe problem to be solved is to eliminate or minimize \"stitching\"\nartifacts resulting from the use of Z-buffering with polylines that are\ncoplanar with filled areas.  The interpolated Z values along a line will\ndiffer slightly, due to roundoff error, from the interpolated Z values\nacross an area, even when the endpoints of the line are coincident with\nvertices of the area.  Because of this, it's a tossup whether the\nZ-buffer will allow the line pixels or the area pixels to be displayed.\nVisually, the result tends to be a dashed-line effect even though the\nline is supposed to be solid.\n\nUsing the PEXlib API, my approach to a solution is to use two slightly\ndifferent PEX view mapping transforms, in two view table entries, one\nfor the areas and one for the lines.  The PEX structures or immediate-\nmode output must be organized so that one view table index is always in\neffect for areas, and the other is always in effect for lines.  The\nresult is a slight shift in NPC Z coordinates for the lines, so as to\nattempt to bias the tossup situations in favor of the lines.\n\nThis shift is effected by moving the front and back clipping planes used\nin the PEXlib view table entry for lines just a hair \"backwards\" (i.e.\nsmaller VRC Z coordinates), compared to their positions in the view\ntable entry used for areas.  This means that when a point is transformed\nto NPC, its Z value will be slightly bigger if it comes from a line than\nif it comes from an area, thus accomplishing the desired bias.\n\nI would expect the Z roundoff errors which cause the problem to amount\nto a few units at most, out of the entire dynamic range of the Z-buffer,\ntypically from 0 to 65535 if not 16777215 (i.e. 16 or 24 bit Z-buffers).\nTherefore, it seems that a tiny fraction of the range of Z in VRC\nbetween the front and back clip planes ought to suffice to reliably fix\nthe stitching.\n\nBut in fact, experience shows that the shift has to be as much as 0.003\nto 0.006 of the range.  (Empirically, it's worst when the NPC Z\ncomponent of the slope of the surface is high, i.e. when it appears more\nor less edge-on to the viewer.)  It's as if only 8 or 9 bits of the\nZ-buffer have any dependable meaning!  This amount is so great that one\nproblem is replaced by another: sometimes the polylines \"show through\"\nareas which they are supposed to lie behind.\n\nI've observed the problem on both Hewlett-Packard and Digital\nworkstation PEX servers, to approximately the same degree.  The test\nprogram demonstrates the problem on an MIT PEXlib 5.x implementation;\nthis version is known to compile and run on an HP-UX system with PEX\n5.1.\n\nOpen questions:\n    (1) Why does this happen?\n        --  Am I configuring the PEX view table wrongly?\n        --  Is there a systematic difference in Z interpolation for lines\n            as opposed to areas (e.g. pixel centers versus corners) which\n            could be corrected for?\n        --  Are PEX implementors wantonly discarding Z precision in their\n            interpolators?\n        --  Something else?\n    (2) What to do about it?\n        --  Can I fix my use of the view table to allow better precision\n            in Z-buffered HLHSR?\n        --  Is there another approach I can take to remove the stitching\n            artifacts?\n        --  Am I just out of luck?\n\nAny help would be immensely appreciated!\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nAw, gee, and whose fault is THAT?\n\n\nDear, dear.  They could have COME OUT.\n\n\nDear, dear.  They could have COME OUT.\n\n The gas began filling the air,\n\nIt couldn't have gotten too heavy with all that wind blowing through.\n\nScattered throughout the house, the cult members made no efforts to\n\nSad, but they COULD HAVE COME OUT.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nProof positive that some people are beyond satire.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I need some information on the implications of receiving\ncortisone shots for a seasonal allergic condition.  ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Nova Mob |Last Days of Pompeii|$8 ppd.\nOverwhelming Colorfast |Overwhelming Colorfast|$8 ppd.\nTeenage Fanclub |Bandwagonesque|$9 ppd.\nTin Machine |Tin Machine II|$9 ppd.\nVarious |Teriyaki Asthma I-V Comp.|$9.50 ppd.\n\nRob\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"HB 1776 is for Concealed Carry in Texas.  It provides for licensing\ncitizens to carry concealed firearms if they pass an instruction\ncourse (30 hours, if I remember correctly), pay a $140 fee (good for\n4 years), and meet several other criteria related to personal\ncharacter, etc.\n\nWhile I don't agree with all of the criteria, I feel it's high time\nthat pro-gun types fight the same way HCI et al. do -- by getting\nincremental changes in the law.  \n\nDaryl","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Scientific American had a nice short article on the history of the\nhypodermic about 10 or 15 years ago.  Prior to liquid injectables,\nthere were paddle-like needles used to implant a tiny pill under the\nskin.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Can anybody out there provide me with any advice concerning the\nfollowing two health problems:\n\nFirst, I was recently diagnosed (using a UGI series) as having a\nSchatzki ring and small sliding hiatal hernia. As I understand it,\nthe hernia is a relatively minor problem, though I do occasionally\nhave some nasty heartburn that is probably related to it. The Schatzki\nring, on the other hand, is causing swallowing difficulty. In particular,\nif I'm not careful about eating slowly, and thoroughly chewing food,\nfood occasionally gets \"stuck\" before reaching my stomach. This results\nin a period of painful spasms as the food attempts to pass the obstruction.\nFortunately, the food has always managed to pass, but this is annoying,\nand causes frequent discomfort.\n\nMy doctor wants to \"dilate\" the ring using the\nfollowing procedure: use an endoscope to examine the esophagus and stomach\nfor any inflammation, then cut through the ring and dilate it by passing\nsome kind of balloon or something thru the esophagous. I would like to know\nif anyone out there has had this (or a similar) procedure done-if so,\nwas it painful, successful, etc. Also, can anyone  comment on\nsafety, advisability, and success rate of this procedure? Has it become\na common procedure? I am kind of leery of having such an invasive-sounding\nprocedure performed for a (currently) non-threatening condition such as this,\nespecially considering the possible side effects (bleeding, perforation,\nreaction to anesthesia).\n\nThe second issue: for the past 3-4 years I have had a large number\nof \"extra\" heartbeats. In particular, during the past month or so there\nhas been a dramatic increase-a Holter monitor recently showed 50 PVC's in 24\nhrs, along with a few PAC's. (Many days, there are far more than this,\nhowever-five to ten per hour). All of them were isolated, and the cardiologist\nindicated that such a number was \"normal\". It certainly doesn't\nfeel normal. In the past there have also been a couple of episodes of\nextended \"runs\" of these beats, one of which lasted long enough to cause\nsevere light-headedness. I am relatively young (30-ish), thin and in good\nhealth (recent bloodtests were all normal), and do not smoke, use drugs or\ncaffeine, etc. I'm willing to accept the extra beats as \"normal\", but don't\nwant to ignore them if they might be some kind of warning symptom. The number\nof PVC's seems to increase throughout the day, and with exercise (or something\nas simple as climbing some stairs). Also, if I get up after sitting or lying\ndown for a while, I tend to get a couple of extra beats. Could they possibly\nbe related to the esophagous problems? Both seemed to develop at about the\nsame time.\n\nThanks for any help\/advice!\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Dear Anybody,\n\nI am in Rochester, NY, where people can look at a Rangers-Penguins playoff game and\nsay, no joke I heard it, \"Hey whats this, OH, its not even the AHL, its just\nthe NHL, I think.\"  Because of this e get Red Wings (Orioles AAA) stats and\nupdates but no AL or NL stats.  Specifically Im looking for Red Sox stats so\nfar, Id like all of them, but could handle just Greenwell and Vaughn.  CAN\nANYBODY PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!!","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nCould you add some information to 'Non it does not'.\nSay for instance your source of information.\n\nThanks.\n\n\n___________________________________________________________________________","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Well,  you better not get the shuttle as your launch vehicle.\n\nand most ELV's have too  far of a backlog for political messages.\n\nIf during the campaign season,  the candidates for president had\nlaunched one,  right around now we'd  be getting a launch\nfor PEROT 92.\n\nand if they had used the shuttle,  we'd be seeing launches\nfor NIXON now more then ever.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nThe sensitivity is changed using the \/S, \/V, or \/H parameter.  \nThe commands do the following:\n\/V - vertical sensitivity\n\/H - horizontal sensitivity\n\/S - both \n\nFollow the parameter with a number from 1 to 100 (1 - slowest, 100-fastest).\nThe default is 50.  You can type the command \"mouse \/S75\" right from the\nkeyboard or add it to autoexec.bat.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nI would prefer a picture with you in it.  Since most motorcycles don't post,\nand are rather similar looking (i.e all R100S's are more alike than they are\ndifferent), it is the people that are ultimately more interesting.\n\nFrom archive_policy.txt:\n\nBTW, I have Charlie Smith's pictures available.\n\n\nInterestingly, I've been to Stanley, ID by motorcycle.  Nice little town,\nnice road getting there.\n\n-Bruce","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\tThe computer itself uses far less electricity than a TV. \nMonitor--depends on the size :).\n\n\tBut one thing NOT to do is use a self-shutdown or power-shutdown \niron\/appliance on the same electric line.\n\n\tAfter a new monitor and power supply and modem, my wife *still* doesn't\nthink her iron is at fault :(.\t(She should know better, being a Bio-med\nengineer :)","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I'm currently trying to select which magneto-optical drive to purchase.  I'm\nprimarily looking at 128MB drives, although I might consider 256MB ones.\n\nWhen looking through MacWorld and MacUser ads, the prices for the 128MB drives\nseem to range from just under $1000 (for the DGR 128REM Portable, Magic 128MB\nPortable Fujitsu, or NuDesign 128MB from MacDirect) to about $1600 (for the\nFWB HammerDisk 130 and Mass Microsystems DataPak MO\/128).  Different drives\nuse different mechanisms - MOST, Fujitsu, Sony, Epson, probably some others.\n\nMy problem is that after reading the Nov 92 MacWorld and Apr 93 MacUser\nreviews of these drives, I'm still not sure what to get.  So, I'm asking\nif anyone has had good\/bad experiences with any 128MB M-O drive or can shed\nsome light on the wide range of prices (is spending more really buying me\nmuch?), reliability of different drives, compatibility between them, or \nanything else I should probably know.\n\nThanks.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nWhy don't you activist guys cut misc.invest out of this thread?\nThey didn't offer any shares for sale yet...","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\tWinZip 4.0 (ftp.cica.indiana.edu:pub\/pc\/win3\/(util?) ). It is\na shell (it DOES call DOS ), but a very, very good one. It will also\ndo arc, arj and lzh. It fully supports PKZIP 2.04 . Try using it...\nIt might be a shell --very unobtrusive--, but that also means you dont\nneed to update it with every every-other-letter-of-the-alphabet version\nof PKZIP... :)\nHope it helps....\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Yes, I know computers and harddisk drives should be ALWAYS on. But what about\nmonitors? They generate a lots of heat. Should I or shouldn't I keep them on\n24 hours a day? Any advice? Thanks. Take care...Paul","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nmlb.c is archived on the Internet Baseball Archive\n\nanoymous ftp to eucalyptus.cc.swarthmore.edu (130.58.67.44)\nyou must use your full email \/ username id as a password\n\ncd .\/baseball\/schedules\n\nit's filed as mlb-schedule-program.c for clarity\n\nschedules pre-generated for east-coast times are there as text files as\nwell, and a couple of teams' TV schedules -- please send me more TV info if\nyou have it on other teams.\n\n- matt\n\nMatt Wall * wall@cc.swarthmore.edu * Hey, I gotta job here, OK?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\nActually, severe headaches due to stopped up sinuses (plugged ostia) are\npossible, and sinus surgery which widens the ostia - from the normal 2\nmm to about 10 mm - should relieve this.  There are non-surgical ways,\nhowever, to keep the ostia open (however, in a few individuals, their\nostia are naturally very small), and Dr. Ivker's book talks about this.\nThe underlying cause of chronic sinusitis is NOT cured by this kind of\nsinus surgery, though.\n\nAbout asthma, that's a little more controversial.  Dr. Ivker, in his book,\n\"Sinus Survival\", *speculates* (and says it's not proven), that many cases\nof asthma are triggered by chronic sinusitis due to the excessive drainage\n(postnasal drip) from the sinuses.  He's had many patients who've found\nrelief from asthma when the chronic sinusitis is reduced or eliminated -\nnot clinical proof, but compelling anecdotal information of this speculation.\n\nBefore doing any sinus surgery, first get THE BOOK - it discusses surgery,\nas well as a good non-surgical treatment program for chronic sinusitis.\n\nJon Noring\n\n-- \n\nCharter Member --->>>  INFJ Club.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Name            Pos   AB    H    2B    3B    HR    RBI    RS    SB    E    AVG\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nGalarraga       1B    54   23     6           2     15     6     1        .426\nSheaffer         C     3    1                                             .333\nBoston          OF    28    9                        3     8              .321\nCole            CF    43   13     1     1            2    13     8        .302\nHayes           3B    46   13     2           3     11     7     2    3   .283\nBichette        RF    39   10     1           3     10     8     1        .256\nE. Young        2B    51   13     2     1     1      7    12     9    3   .255\nTatum           3B     8    2     1                                       .250\nMurphy          OF     8    2                        2                    .250\nClark           LF    37    9     3     1     1      3     3          1   .243\nGirardi          C    45   10     2     1            3     3          1   .222\nCastilla        SS     7    1                                         1   .143\nBenavides       SS    35    5     1                  5     3          4   .143\nPITCHERS         P    24    1                              1              .042\nG. Young        OF     3                                   2          1   .000\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTotals               431  112    19     4    10     61    66    21   14   .260\n\nName      L\/R GS CG    IP     H    R    ER    K    BB    ERA    W    L    S\n---------------------------------------------------------------------------\nAldred     L           6      4    3     1    3     8    1.50   0    0    0\nAshby      R   2  0   11     12    3     3    5     9    2.45   0    0    0 \nWayne      L           3.7    4    1     1    3     2    2.45   0    1    0\nNeid       R   4  1   29     27   11    10   15    10    3.10   3    1    0\nParrett    R          10      8    4     4   12     7    3.60   0    0    0\nSmith      R   3  0   16.3   22    8     8    3     5    4.41   1    2    0\nBlair      R           8      9    6     4    5     3    4.50   0    0    0\nRuffin     L   2  0    9.3   15    7     5    7     6    4.82   1    1    0\nHenry      L   2  0   12.7   14    9     8    5     5    5.68   0    2    0\nReed       R           3.7    8    7     7    2     3   17.18   0    0    0\nHolmes     R           2.3    8   10     9    3     4   34.71   0    1    0","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nI'm also interested in such a program. But most of all I'd like to know \nwich program is able to convert GIF or PCX to DXF !!! When I have this \nprogram, I can scan pictures and frase (or something like that !) them.\nThis will be beyond the limit !!!","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nI haven't read this entire thread, but, if someone hasn't tossed this out yet, then here it is: \n\n2 Samuel 12:21-23 (RSV) : \n\n  \"Then his servants said to him, `What is this thing that you have\n  done? You fasted and wept for the child while it was alive; but when\n  the child died, you arose and ate food.' He [David] said, 'While the\n  child was still alive, I fasted and wept; for I said, 'Who knows\n  whether the LORD will be gracious to me, that the child may live?' But\n  now he is dead; why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall\n  go to him, but he will not return to me.'\"\n\nAnyhow, many interpret this to mean that the child has gone to Heaven\n(where David will someday go). I don't claim to know for sure if this\napplies to all babies or not. But even if it's just this one, what\nwould you say to this?","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"SH>I'm a hockey fan from way back, and maintain an interest as best I can\n  >here in the hockey hinterlands (Oklahoma).  I'm hoping I can get a\n  >reading from some of you about the move of the North Stars to Dallas.\n\nSH>I've been under the impression that Minnesota was one of, or possibly,\n  >THE hockey state in the U.S.  So why is the team moving to a city in\n  >Texas?  Is it that the owner is a greedy, self-serving profiteer, or\n  >were the Stars really not making a profit?  Or was the city or whoever\n  >owned the arena doing some price gouging?\n\nSH>As much as I'd like to see the NHL only a 3 hour drive from me, I\n  >can't help but feel for the people in Minnesota, unless they truly\n  >didn't support the team.\n\nSH>Opinions, please.\n\nI used to work for the Stars.  Minnesota supported the team to an\nextent.  When I was there, we had quite afew sellouts (This was the\nseason after the cup run and during the finals).  Norm's main bitch was\nthat there wasn't enough luxury suites.  And, the ones he had were not\nalways full.  He wanted more boxes and wanted them full.  He was just\nasking for too much from people that could go and see other hockey games\nat High Schools for $5 or college for about $10 that would probably be\nbetter.\n\nMark\n\n \u00fe QMPro 1.01 41-6393 \u00fe Radioactive cats are very, very HOT!","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n      Perhaps I failed to make myself clear:  Minorities in the U.S.\n*correlate* with poverty.  This isn't good and we should address it,\nbut we shouldnt' ignore that minorities and poverty *do* tend to go\ntogether.\n\n      *Does* Vancouver have a consistantly poor population drawn along\nracial lines?  If it doesn't, then assumptions of being able to compare\nminority vs. majority in both cities is questionable at best.\n\n\n       If the *rate* of increase over a period of several years remains\nunchanged, or increases, I think it's not a far jump to say that the laws\nare not effective.  No, you can't sit down and say that things wouldn't\nhave been worse.  I don't have a crystal ball and neither do you.  However,\nthat road leads us to a place where it is impossible to critique *any*\naction.  If it gets down to be, \"It might have been worse without them,\"\nthen there *is* no valid objection, which I'm sure would amuse certain\npeople to no end.\n\n\n       So we've got a situation where we have several options:\n\n\t1)  The crime rate decreased:  Obviously gun control worked.\n\n\t2)  The crime rate remained the same:  It would have been worse\n\twithout gun control.\n\n\t3)  The crime rate increased:  Perhaps the laws prevented an\n\teven bigger increase.\n\n       Cute testing ground we've got.  All responses support the proposition\nthat gun control works.\n\n       The question is this:  Did Washington D.C. experiance an increase\nin its violent and\/or gun crime rate which was greater than the pattern\nindicated prior to the implemented gun control laws.  If it did, then\nthe suggestion that the problem the gun control laws were designed to\n\"control\" did not exist in their entirety prior to the gun control laws.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Forwarded from libernet@dartmouth.edu:\n\nDate: Tue, 20 Apr 93 10:30:47 PDT\nFrom: ald@clipper.clipper.ingr.com (Al Date)\nSubject: \"Clipper Chip\"  --NOT!\nTo: libernet@Dartmouth.EDU\n\nClipper TM chip is a registered trademark of Intergraph Corp.\n\nThe so-called Clipper chip which was recently mentioned here\nand in other media\nwith respect to encryption is being used in violation of that trademark.  \n\nThe Intergraph Clipper chip is a Unix microprocessor, originally \ndeveloped by Fairchild Semiconductors, and has no relationship\nto the encryption chip whatsoever.  \n\nI mention this here with the hope that someone reading this will\nintercede before the group alt.privacy.\"clipper\" is established.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nHow about letting in the press?\n\nHow about letting Koresh out to talk to the press?\n\nMaybe if he had been allowed to talk with the press\/TV for a couple of\ndays he would have surrendered peacefully.\n\n\nHow about letting the relatives of Koresh`s followers talk?\n\n\nSeems to me when you isolate someone, try to send them crazy by playing\nloudspeakers through the night of Tibetan chants, etc., you don`t have\nmuch to stand on when they behave as if they are crazy.  (I`m not too\nsure of their sanity to start with.)\n\nI am VERY suspicious when the government controls all communication,\nand sends the press 2 miles away. \nI have a gut feeling that no-knock warrant, which is sealed, would not\nstand up to scrutiny.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nMake that buying a *first* bike- a new bike is not generally a good first\nbike...\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nMe too. A tendency on the part of some people to hide their head in\nthe sand.\n\n\nHow many people do you want jailed for their convictions, for their\ninsistence on real privacy? Why sit by quietly while the preconditions\nfor a real civil war are put in place by a short-sighted government.\n\n\nThe terminal is mightier than the pen :)\n\n\nReally? I guess you mean the U.S. revolution. How about England,\nIndia, Mexico, France, Holland....\n\n\nYou are misinformed. But this whole issue is off the topic.\n\n\nWhen the cops kick in your door for using PGP, tell them that. All\nwe're doing here is exercising our (so-called, rapidly narrowing)\nright to free speech. \n\n\nPerhaps you should talk to the government about that. Or are you a\ndisciple of David \"The cops are our FRIENDS\" Sternlight?\n\nThe implied threat of the illegalization of private crypto, the\nnot-so-subtle subtext of the clipper announcement, is what worries me.\nI don't want my children growing up in a police state.\n\n-Rens\n\n**Disclaimer: all opinions herein are mine and mine alone, and do not\n              necessarily represent those of any organization with\n              which I may be affiliated.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\tDo you remember Game 7 of the 1988 NLCS, after the Dodgers defeated\nthe Mets, and Ugh-a-dugh foo-boo fat stomach Tom Lasorda came running out\non to the field in celebration?  YUCK!!!!!!\n\tHe undulated.  His arms flew up and down, keeping time with his\nrolling set of 9 stomachs, which flew all around the cozy confines of\nChavez Ravine.  He oozed, like a white gastropod.  He ran.  It was a \ndisgusting sight.  Not only couldn't I watch my Mets in the Series, I had\nto watch Fat Stomach Lasorda roll around Dodger....\n\tBLARGH!\n\n\n\t\"If you like short, fat men, who grunt, curse, and spit a lot,\nWhitey's certainly your man\" - Former WFAN host Pete Franklin, on The White\nRat ...\n\tBut it's true, this emphasis on the appearance of ballplayers in\ntight uniforms only works if the player actually has an extraodinary \nphysique.  Looking at Charlie Hough's scrawny torso through those tight\nwhite shirts just sort of makes me decide, \"Hmmm, I don't want to eat lunch\ntoday...or tomorrow...or anytime soon...\".\n\tWhen Al Harazin first became Mets' GM, he was asked if he intended\nto help redesign the Mets' uniforms and change their image.  In particular,\nthey asked him about the orange and blue racing stripe that runs down the \nsides the uniforms.  He said that he's very much in favor of keeping them\nbecause \"they're sleek and they're sexy\".\n\tSid Fernandez, in a tight-fitting uniform, with a sleek racing\nstripe to denote speed and potencty.  Mmmmmmmm...lard.\n\tKevin McReynolds, diving after a fly ball.  Mmmmmmmm...Man O' War, baby!\n\tPat Howell....well, never mind.  Nothing could be tight on him. \nThey don't make uniform sizes *that* small ... :-)\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nVirtualGrabKeys is not an OW resource. It belongs to\nolvwm(1).","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nGood point, Brett.  It might merely be proof that basic health care\nmarkets operate differently, with certain nonmarket phenomenom that\nthe private sector can't handle well (like armies vs. warlords). In\nthat respect, the effects on American society vs. Canadian\/European\nsociety might also be different.\n\n\nGood point again.  Blue Cross in the U.S. is quite convoluted compared\nto the Canadian and German insurance funds, which have a minimal\norganization to coordinate it.  If anything, bureaucracy now needs to\nbe built up in Canada to combat fraud, such as Americans crossing the\nborder individually to use insurance cards borrowed from friends and\nrelatives or using phony domestic addresses, or fraud rings stealing\nthem in blocks.  Our private practices are now recording insurance\naccount numbers, both public insurance and private insurance, which\nmost have never bothered to do before on assumption of an honour \nsystem.\n\ngld","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"From: harelb@math.cornell.edu (misc.activism.progressive co-moderator)\nSubject: F<O>CUS\/HEALTH: How U.S. Compares....**PAID** Maternity leave...\n\nF<O>CUS\/HEALTH: How U.S. Compares....**PAID** Maternity leave...\n\n=================================================================== \nDuration of nationally provided PAID maternity leave in weeks, 1988 \n=================================================================== \n\n============================================ \nCOUNTRY          WEEKS  COUNTRY        WEEKS \n============================================ \nUnited Kingdom      40  Germany           14 \nFinland             38  Ireland           14 \nDenmark             28  Japan             14 \nFrance           16 28  Spain             14 \nItaly               22  Netherlands       12 \nNorway              20  Sweden            12 \nCanada           17-18  Switzerland     8-12 \nAustria             16  United States      0 \nBelgium             14 \n\nSource: International Labor Organization, \"Work and Family: The Child Care \nChallenge,\" Conditions of Work Digest, vol. 7, February 1988. \n\n******************************************************************\nFrom page 11 of: \n\n - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -    \n_We're Number One, Where America Stands -- and Falls -- in the New      \nWorld Order_ by Andrew L Shapiro.     \n\nNew York, May 1992, Vintage Books, a division of Random House.     \n$10 paperback. ISBN 0-679-73893-2    \n - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -     \n[Transcribed by jhwoodar@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Woodard)] \n\n    ``America is becoming a land of private greed and public squalor.     \n    This book is an indispensable road map through the wreckage. The     \n    facts it reveals will startle you. They may depress you. But     \n    ideally they'll fire you up to help rebuild this nation.'' ","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":":    [...]     When you and the rest of the homosexual community\n: pass laws to impose your moral codes on me, by requiring me to\n: hire, rent to, or otherwise associate with a homosexual against\n: my will, yes, you are in my face.  Until homosexuals stop trying\n: to impose their morals on me, I will be in your face about this.\n\nAhh, what's good for the goose is not necessarily what's good for\nthe gander.  You don't want homosexuals to impose their moral codes\n(such diabolical ideas as equal rights) on you, yet you are willing\nto impose your moral codes on them.  Do I detect a double standard?","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nKelly Kisio was the captain of the Rangers when he left for San Jose.\n\n\n-- Ali.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nGlad to hear that the bozo managed to stop.  I've only been riding for\nabout two years, but here are my rules for traffic light survival:\n\n     - I try to *never* stop just over a hill behind a car.  If I have\n       to stop in such a location, I pull almost completely next to the\n       car in front of me.  If I'm the only one (ie no car in front), I\n       turn the bike somewhat sideways across the lane, to increase my\n       visibility to any oncoming vehicle.  Make sure to keep your\n       taillight visible to traffic, though. (NOTE:  My bike is bright\n       white; turning sideways on a black bike might not be as beneficial.)\n\n     - On a flat road, I stop with a bit of room ahead of me (usually\n       about two or three bike lengths).  This will (hopefully) give\n       me room to pull forward and to the side as a car approaches.\n\n     - If you are the last in a line of vehicles, watch your mirrors\n       *constantly!*  If you see a vehicle approaching, and can't see\n       any evidence to indicate that he\/she is slowing down, get out\n       of the way *now!*\n\n     - Flicker your brake light.  If I'm the last vehicle in line, I\n       will pull and release the brake as a car approaches from\n       behind (noticed the car by watching my mirrors, of course :-).\n       I vary the speed of the flicker, hoping to make the cager notice\n       that there's something in the lane ahead of him.\n\nNow, with all that said, it's the situation where you are first in line\nthat I feel most defenseless.  If you're first in line, your forward escape\nroute is seriously limited - you can only move forward to the extent that\nyou don't enter the intersection.  I leave some room behind the stop line\n(although around here, the #@$*! light activators are always right up \nnext to the stop line!), and watch the mirrors.  I *think* I've decided\nthat hopping off the bike might be the best way out of this situation.\nAny other ideas for being first in line with no traffic directly behind\nyou?\n\n-rob.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I'm looking for any information regarding Text Search Engines...  Specifically,\nI'd prefer source or binaries which will run in a MS-Windows and\/or UNIX\nenvironment scanning either flat files or common DB structures...\n\nReferences to PD, Shareware, or Commercial implementations welcome...\n\nPlease reply via email -- I'll summarize if desired.\n\nThanx !","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nSo you think a 93 Mustang Cobra can match the performance of a new Z28??\nInteresting belief! \n\nCraig\n\n(who neither owns, nor wants to own any GM or Ford product)","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
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{"text":"During the local Rockies broadcast the other day Don Baylor\nwent out to bring in a relief pitcher and a graphic came up\non the screen that it was the \"so and so sponsored\" pitching \nchange. I saw another game where the pinch hitter was sponsored.\n\nAt other times during the game Rockies announcer Duane Kuiper was\nsetting up the strategy that the defense might use with the expectation\nthat Charlie Jones would jump in and discuss the situation. But\nwhat does Charlie do, he read's a beer advertisement and leaves\nDuane hanging. Duane's strategy proved prophetic.\n\nThese examples happen over and over on radio and T.V. braodcasts\nmaking them sometimes very boring to listen to.\n\nI guess it's just a matter of time before a player sells his name\nto  Budweiser, Nike, etc.\n\nI don't think it will be long until we hear: \"Nike Budweiser drills\nit deep to left field, Chevrolet goes back, back, it's gone! The Apple\nMacintoshes (formerly the Boston Red Sox) are the 1998 World Champions!!!\"\n\nBack to work,\n\nAnthony M. Jivoin\nNational Center for Atmospheric Research\nRSF\/ATD - FL1\nP.O. Box 3000\nBoulder, CO 80307","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nIt's a request to personal users; it's a requirement for commercial,\ngovernment, and institutional users.\n\nSomeone else asked whether the authors of the JPEG and TIFF software had\ngiven permission to incorporate their code into a commercial product.  I\nfound the following in jpeg\/README:\n\n    We specifically permit and encourage the use of this software as the\n    basis of commercial products, provided that all warranty or liability\n    claims are assumed by the product vendor.\n\nand the following in tiff\/Copyright:\n\n    Permission to use, copy, modify, distribute, and sell this software and\n    its documentation for any purpose is hereby granted without fee, ...\n\nLooks like he's OK on that account.\n-- \nBarry Margolin\nSystem Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Can taking the car to a car wash hurt the car's finish?\n\nAnd if so, is it better to hand wash it about once a month, or just take it \nto the car wash anyway?\n\nAre detailing places worth the money?  if i do a good, careful job on washing\nand waxing, is a detail place going to be worth it?\n\nreply to my email address: pfk1@crux1.cit.cornell.edu\n\npk4","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I have gotten X11R5 pl 23 to compile on AIX 3.2.2 using cc.\n but the server will not run. it simplys starts and a couple seconds\n later exits. no error are displayed. \n my defines for compile are\n -DSYSV -DAIXV3 -DSYSV_WAIT   -DMALLOC_0_RETURNS_NULL \n\n \n   could somewhere share some light, or maybe the ibm.cf file. \n\n thanks.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n    For your information, I checked the Library of Congress catalog,\nand they list the following books by Francis Hitching:\n\n    Earth Magic\n\n    The Neck of the Giraffe, or Where Darwin Went Wrong\n\n    Pendulum: the Psi Connection\n\n    The World Atlas of Mysteries\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nPardon me? History shows that within the last 170 years, Greeks played \nthat game twice: They used Istanbul Patriarch Grigorios in 1822 to \ninstigate the Morea rebellion that resulted in the massacres of \nthe Muslim people. Again, the Orthodox Patriarch Constantine V \ninvited the Russian Czar Nicholas II to invade the Ottoman Empire \n'in the name of Jesus,' and save his flock from Ottoman rule. \n\nSource: \"The 'Past' in Medieval and Modern Greek Culture,\" in Speros\n         Vryonis, ed., 'Byzantina kai Metabyzantina,' Vol I (Malibu,\n         Calif., 1978).\n\np. 161.\n\nIn the words of Professor Skiotis, \"With savage jubilance, [the Greeks]\nsang the words 'Let no Turk remain in the Morea, nor in the whole world.'\nThe Greeks were determined to achieve to 'Romaiko' in the only way they\nknew how: through a war of religious extermination.\"\n\n\n  <<The leader of the Ashkenazi community of Corlu complained to the\n  president of AIU [Alliance Israelite Universelle] in 1902 about\n  persistent Greek attacks against its Jewish quarter:\n\n    ''The fanatic Greeks of our city, as of other places in Thrace,\n    have the habit of, contrary to the spirit of real Christianity,\n    making a replica of Judas Iscariote and of burning it on the night\n    of Holy Saturday. They construct a wooden figure, cover it with\n    clothing which they claim is that of the ancient Jews, and they\n    burn it publicly in the middle of a multitude of the ignorant and\n    the fanatic. It often happens that this multitude, already excited\n    by the tales of the suffering of Christ that has been made to them\n    at the Church, is exaulted at the appearance of the execution of he\n    who is supposed to have betrayed Christ, and works up a great anger\n    against the Jews...For a long time we have known that each year,\n    on such a day, they will cut off the heads and arms of the corpses\n    in our cemetery and will burn them with great solemnity. We make\n    no complaint about this in order not to create differences between\n    the two communities. But this audacious madness of these fanatics\n    has increased. We ourselves see the flames and hear the cries of\n    hatred and vengeance against the Jews.''[42]>>\n\n[42] Ashkenazi Community, Corlu, to AIU no.8783, 2 May 1902, in AIU\n     Archives (Paris) II C 8, with report printed in El Tiempo of 1 May 1902.\n\n\nSource: Professor Stanford J. Shaw, 'The Jews of the Ottoman Empire and the\n        Turkish Republic,' New York University Press, New York (1991).\n\n pages 202-203:\n\n  <<In 1865, immediately after enactment of the new Organic Statute for the\n  Jewish community, and just as Jewish capital from Europe was beginning\n  to have an effect in Istanbul, local Armenians and Greeks started a pogrom\n  against Jews immediately across the sea of Marmara at Haydarpasa, terminus\n  of the Anatolia railroad, with three hundred Jews massacred and many more\n  beaten and raped before the disturbance was stopped after the Sultan sent\n  his personal guard across the bay to protect the Jews [39].\n\n  In later years, ritual murder attacks against Jews, carried out mostly\n  by native Greeks, Armenians, and, in Arab provinces, by Maronites and\n  other Arab Christians, often with the assistance of the local European\n  consuls, took place throughout the empire. There were literally thousands\n  of incidents continuously until World War I, in Southeastern Europe as far\n  west and north as Monastir and Kavalla, in Istanbul, at Gallipoli and\n  the Dardanelles, at Salonica, and in all the Arab provinces as far south\n  as Damascus and Beirut and in Egypt at Cairo and Alexandria. These\n  invariably resulted from accusations spread among Ottoman Christians\n  by word of mouth, or published in their newspapers, often by Christian\n  financiers and merchants anxious to get their Jewish competitors out of\n  the way or to divert onto the Jews Muslim anger at reports of Christian\n  massacres of Muslims in Southeastern Europe or Central Asia, resulting\n  in individual and mob attacks on Jews, and the burning of their shops\n  and homes.\n\n  Individual experiences were horrible. Jews constantly went in fear of\n  Armenian or Greek attacks in the streets of Ottoman cities. In Egypt\n  and Syria, it was usually the Greeks who led the way, in many cases\n  with the assistance of local Armenians and Syrian Christians, whose\n  Greek, Arabic and French-language newspapers often printed all the\n  rumors they could find regarding Jews, evidently with the desire of\n  instigating violence. The Syrian Arab Christians in particular spread\n  their long-standing anti-Semitic hatreds from Syria to Egypt, where\n  their monopoly of the local press and their espousal of popular causes\n  such as Egyptian nationalism and opposition to the British rule, enabled\n  them to spread their anti-Jewish message among the Muslim masses with\n  little question or opposition.\n\n  On 20 June 1890, thus, Sir Evelyn Baring (later Lord Cromer), British\n  High Commissioner in Egypt, received the following report from David\n  and Nissim Ades, in Cairo:\n\n    ''Sir,\n\n      I beg sir to draw to your attention to the violent articles which\n      has (sic) appeared in an Arabic paper called El Mahroussa which\n      contained nothing but lies and false accusations against the Jews,\n      especially those (the issues) of the 14th, 17th and 19th instant.\n      Now, Sir, are we to have here an anti-Semitic party amidst fanaticism,\n      Greeks, Armenians, etc., or is he to be allowed to continue to poison\n      the people's minds with exaggeration and painted words? In an article,\n      he asserted that the Jews use Christian blood for Passover, of course\n      this has caused a deal of excitement.'' [40]\n\n  Whenever Greek and other Orthodox religious authorities or prominent\n  Greek business leaders or consuls were asked to help to stem the violence\n  or reduce tension, they invariably indicated their cooperation and then\n  failed to do anything to prevent attacks or punish those who stimulated\n  or led them. [41]\n\n  The leader of the Ashkenazi community of Corlu complained to the\n  president of AIU [Alliance Israelite Universelle] in 1902 about\n  persistent Greek attacks against its Jewish quarter:\n\n    ''The fanatic Greeks of our city, as of other places in Thrace,\n    have the habit of, contrary to the spirit of real Christianity,\n    making a replica of Judas Iscariote and of burning it on the night\n    of Holy Saturday. They construct a wooden figure, cover it with\n    clothing which they claim is that of the ancient Jews, and they\n    burn it publicly in the middle of a multitude of the ignorant and\n    the fanatic. It often happens that this multitude, already excited\n    by the tales of the suffering of Christ that has been made to them\n    at the Church, is exaulted at the appearance of the execution of he\n    who is supposed to have betrayed Christ, and works up a great anger\n    against the Jews...For a long time we have known that each year,\n    on such a day, they will cut off the heads and arms of the corpses\n    in our cemetery and will burn them with great solemnity. We make\n    no complaint about this in order not to create differences between\n    the two communities. But this audacious madness of these fanatics\n    has increased. We ourselves see the flames and hear the cries of\n    hatred and vengeance against the Jews.''[42]>>\n\n\n[39] El Tiempo, 28 April 1926; Galante, Istanbul I, 185; Galante, Documents V,\n     340-41.\n\n[40] FO 78\/430, enclosed in Baring no.207 to Lord Salisbury, Cairo,\n     25 June 1890, reprinted in Landau, 'Ritual Murder Accusations', p.450.\n\n[41] Jacob Landau, 'Ritual Murder Accusations and Persecutions of Jews\n     in Nineteenth Century Egypt', Sefunot V (1961), 425-427; for example\n     see report in BAIU [Bulletin de l'Alliance Israelite Universelle:\n     Deuxieme Serie (Paris)], first semestre 1881, pp.66-67. Galante also\n     reported similar difficulties with the Greek religious leaders while\n     he was teaching in Rhodes.\n\n[42] Ashkenazi Community, Corlu, to AIU no.8783, 2 May 1902, in AIU\n     Archives (Paris) II C 8, with report printed in El Tiempo of 1 May 1902.\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Dear Netters:\n\nMaybe one of you can explain this.  From time to time I experience \na strange kind of feeling (I have all kinds of weird feelings) which \ncan be best described as the feeling of \"losing gravity\", like that one \nexperiences in a descending elevator.  Needless to say, it is not \nenjoyable.  It sometimes comes with shortness of breath and extreme \nfatigue.  It lasts from a few minutes to an hour and when it lasts \nthat long, it makes me sweatening.\n\nInitially I called it \"palpitation (spelling?)\" until I later learnt that \nthe terminology has been reserved for the self-awareness of heart beats.\n\nSo, is there a specific term for this feeling, or am I a stragne person?\nI always believe I am unique. \n\nThanks.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nHere are a few ideas:\n\n1) a free library card so they can look up the FBI\n   Uniform Crime Report which shows how good HCI is\n   at lying through their teeth,\n\n2) a free RTD Transit Pass which will allow anti-gunners\n   to tour South Central Los Angeles and convince\n   people living there that they don't need guns to protect\n   themselves because the police will do it for them \n   (don't lose the pass, you'll need it to get out),\n\n3) a free bus ride to Vermont, which has almost no gun\n   control and, curiously enough, almost no crime either,\n\n4) a free calculator, since anti-gunners have heretofore\n   been unable to figure out what a small percentage of\n   the guns owned in America are used to commit violent crime.\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------\nLee Gaucher    NRA                  |  My opinions.\ngaucher@sam.cchem.berkeley.edu      |  No one else's.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\tThe statement above is _true_ to the spirit of the list because\n\tit is a false statement.  Misinformation: that's the spirit, Bill.\n\n\tMy \/5 will do wheelies because it's a chain drive model.   ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"-> The current 4.9l V-8 will soldier on for about two years.  A version\n-> of the 32 valve modular V-8 in the Mark VIII could be offered then.\n\nHow unfortunate for anyone who loves the simplicity with which 302 and\n351 Fords and 305 and 350 Chevys can be built up. Still, it will provide\na needed punch for the Ford to stay up with the new Firebird\/Camaros. It\nwouldn't surprise me if Ford called the engine a 5.0 litre in the\nMustang. (We all know that the current 5.0 is really 4.9 litres anyway)\n\n-> Undisguised, the car looks OK, but not nearly as exciting as the new\n-> Camaro\/Firebird, IMO.\n\nI must agree. I don't think I've seen anything as impressive looking as\nthe new Firebird since my friend back home sold his 1970 Formula 400\nFirebird (for a paltry $2000, without even telling me. The bastard.)","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n    It is Clinton's initiative now.  He is pushing it hard\n    Aren't the liberals supposed to be concerned about privacy\n    rights?\n\n    If you want to know more about the wiretapping initiative,\n    read \"1984\" - it's in there, installed in every bedroom.\n\n\n-- \n------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nDisclaimer: Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nBob: Excellent! To the point and correct! Spread the word. \n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Is it possible to rip an external SyQuest removable drive out of its\nexternal casing and install it into the 5 1\/4\" empty bay slot on a\nCentris 650? I know a special bracket would need to be purchased, but\nis there any power hookup\/SCSI constraints that would prevent it? If\nanyone has done it, could they mail me some instructions. It doesn't\nseem to be that overwhelming an undertaking.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"#Frank, unless you didn't realize it, you are just now involved\n#in a debate where we have various opinions, and each entity\n#has its own frame where the opinion is expressed. I think I \n#don't need to state the dreadful r-word.\n\nSo, it's _sometimes_ correct to say that morality is objective, or what?\nAfter all, I could hardly be wrong, without dragging in the o-word.\nFor your part, when you say that relativism is true, that's just\nyour opinion.  Why do folk get so heated then, if a belief in relativism\nis merely a matter of taste?  (to be fair, _you_ have been very calm,\nI get the impression that's because you don't care about notions of\nobjectivity in any flavour.  Right?)\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Can someone please give me a couple names of anonymous\nftp sites that cater to graphics.  I am looking for info\/\nsources\/images for building a ray tracer.  \n\n\nThanks,","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Good point - there haven't even been any recent posts about Ulf! \nSecretly, I'm convinced that he's responsible for the Bs being down 3-0\nto Buffalo, somehow.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"THE WHITE HOUSE\n\n                    Office of the Press Secretary\n______________________________________________________________\nFor Immediate Release                             April 23, 1993     \n\n\t     \n                  PRESS CONFERENCE BY THE PRESIDENT\n\t     \n\t     \n                            The East Room \n\n\n1:00 P.M. EDT\n\t     \n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Terry, do you have a question?\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Mr. President, there's a growing feeling that the \nWestern response to bloodshed in Bosnia has been woefully inadequate.  \nHolocaust survivor Elie Wiesel asked you yesterday to do something, \nanything to stop the fighting.  Is the United States considering \ntaking unilateral action such as air strikes against Serb artillery \nsites?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Well, first let me say, as you know, for \nmore than a week now we have been seriously reviewing our options for \nfurther action.  And I want to say, too, let's look at the last three \nmonths.  Since I became President I have worked with our allies and \nwe have tried to move forward, first on the no-fly zone, on \nenforcement of it, on the humanitarian airdrops, on the war crimes \ninvestigation, on getting the Bosnian Muslims involved in the peace \nprocess.  We have made some progress.  And now we have a very much \ntougher sanctions resolution.  And Leon Fuerth, who is the National \nSecurity Advisor to the Vice President, is in Europe now working on \nimplementing that.  That is going to make a big difference to Serbia.\n\t     \n\t     And we are reviewing other options.  I think we should \nact.  We should lead -- the United States should lead.  We have led \nfor the last three months.  We have moved the coalition.  And to be \nfair, our allies in Europe have been willing to do their part.  And \nthey have troops on the ground there.\n\t     \n\t     But I do not think we should act alone, unilaterally, \nnor do I think we will have to.  And in the next several days I think \nwe will finalize the extensive review which has been going on and \nwhich has taken a lot of my time, as well as the time of the \nadministration, as it should have, over the last 10 days or so.  I \nthink we'll finish that in the near future and then we'll have a \npolicy and we'll announce it and everybody can evaluate it.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Can I follow up?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Sure.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Do you see any parallel between the ethnic \ncleansing in Bosnia and the Holocaust?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  I think the Holocaust is on a whole \ndifferent level.  I think it is without precedent or peer in human \nhistory.  On the other hand, ethnic cleansing is the kind of \ninhumanity that the Holocaust took to the nth degree.  The idea of \nmoving people around and abusing them and often killing them solely \nbecause of their ethnicity is an abhorrent thing.  And it is \nespecially troublesome in that area where people of different ethnic \ngroups live side by side for so long together.  And I think you have \nto stand up against it.  I think it's wrong.\n\t     \n\t     We were talking today about all of the other troubles in \nthat region.  I was happy to see the violence between the Croats and \nthe Muslims in Bosnia subside this morning, and I think we're making \nprogress on that front.  But what's going on with the Serbians and \nthe ethnic cleansing is qualitatively different than the other \nconflicts, both within the former Yugoslavia and in other parts of \nthe region.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Mr. President, by any count, you have not had a \ngood week in your presidency.  The tragedy in Waco, the defeat of \nyour stimulus bill, the standoff in Bosnia.  What did you do wrong \nand what are you going to do differently?  How do you look at things?  \nAre you reassessing?  (Laughter.)\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  I don't really believe that the \nsituation in Bosnia -- it's not been a good week for the world, but I \ndon't know that the administration could have made it different.\n\t     \n\t     On the stimulus package, I'd like to put it into the \nlarger context and remind you that in this 100 days we have already \nfundamentally changed the direction of an American government.  We \nhave abandoned trickle-down economics.  We've abandoned the policies \nthat brought the debt of this country from $1 trillion to $4 trillion \nin only a decade.  \n\t     \n\t     The budget plan, which passed the Congress, which will \nreduce the deficit and increase investment, has led to a 20-year low \nin mortgage rates, dramatically lower interest rates.  There are \nprobably people in this room who have refinanced their home mortgages \nin the last three months, or who have had access to cheaper credit.  \nThat's going to put tens of billion dollars coursing throughout this \neconomy in ways that are very, very good for the country.  And so we \nare moving in the right direction economically.\n\t     \n\t     I regret that the stimulus did not pass, and I have \nbegun to ask -- and will continue to ask not only people in the \nadministration, but people in the Congress whether there is something \nI could have done differently to pass that.  Part of the reason it \ndidn't pass was politics; part of it was a difference in ideas.  \nThere are really people still who believe that it's not needed.  I \njust disagree with that.  \n\t     \n\t     I think the recovery -- the economists say it's been \nunderway for about two years, and we've still had 16 months of seven-\npercent unemployment, and all the wealthy countries are having \ntrouble creating jobs.  So I think there was an idea base -- an \nargument there, that while we're waiting for the lower interest rates \nand the deficit reduction and the investments of the next four years \nto take effect, this sort of supplemental appropriation should go \nforward.\n\t     \n\t     Now, I have to tell you, I did misgauge that because a \nmajority of the Republican senators now sitting in the Senate voted \nfor a similar stimulus when Ronald Reagan was President in 1983, and \nvoted 28 times for regular supplemental appropriations like this.  I \njust misgauged it.  And I hope that I can learn something.  I've just \nbeen here 90 days.  And, you know, I was a Governor working with a \ncontentious legislature for 12 years, and it took me a decade to get \npolitical reform there.  So it takes time  to change things.  But I \nbasically feel very good about what's happened in the first 100 days \nwith regard to the Congress.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Waco --\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Well, with regard to Waco I don't have \nmuch to add to what I've already said.  I think it is a -- I want the \nsituation looked into.  I want us to bring in people who have any \ninsights to bear on that.  I think it's very important that the whole \nthing be thoroughly gone over.  But I still maintain what I said from \nthe beginning, that the offender there was David Koresh.  And I do \nnot think the United States government is responsible for the fact \nthat a bunch of fanatics decided to kill themselves.  And I'm sorry \nthat they killed their children.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Mr. President, to follow up partly on Helen on your \nstimulus package and on your political approach to Capitol Hill, Ross \nPerot said today that you're playing games with the American people \nin your tax policy.  He was strongly critical of your stimulus \npackage.  He said he's going to launch an advertising campaign \nagainst the North American Free Trade Agreement.  How are you going \nto handle his political criticism?  Will it complicate your efforts \non the Hill with your economic plan?  And do you plan to repackage \nsome of the things that have been in your stimulus program and try to \nresubmit them to the Hill?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Let me answer that question first.  \nWe're going to revisit all of that over the next few days.  I'm going \nto be talking to members of Congress and to others to see what we can \ndo about that.  With regard to the economic plan, I must say I found \nthat rather amazing.  I don't want to get into an argument with Mr. \nPerot.  I'll be interested to hear what his specifics are, but I \nwould -- go back and read his book and his plan.  There's a \nremarkable convergence except that we have more specific budget cuts, \nwe raise taxes less on the middle class and more on the wealthy.  \nBut, otherwise, the plans are remarkably similar.  \n\t     \n\t     So I think it would be -- I'll be interested to see if \nmaybe perhaps he's changed his position from his book last year and \nhe has some new ideas to bring to bear.  I'll be glad to hear them.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  To follow up, sir, how do you plan to handle his \npolitical criticism?  He's launched a campaign against you.  Do you \nthink you can sit back and just --\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Well, first of all, I will ask you to \napply the same level of scrutiny to him as you do to me.  And if he's \nchanged his position from the positions he took in the campaign last \nyear, then we need to know why and what his ideas are.  Maybe he's \ngot some constructive ideas.  \n\t     \n\t     I think the American people have shown that they're very \nimpatient with people who don't want to produce results.  And the one \nthing I think that everybody has figured out about me in the last -- \neven if they don't agree with what I do -- is that I want to get \nsomething done.  I just came here to try to change things.  I want to \ndo things.  And I want to do things that help people's lives.  So my \njudgment is that if he makes a suggestion that is good, that is \nconstructive, that takes us beyond some idea I've proposed that will \nchange people's lives for the better, fine.  But I think that that \nought to be the test that we apply to everyone who weighs into this \ndebate and not just to the President.\n\n\t     Q\t  Mr. President, to go back to Bosnia for a minute.  \nYou continue to insist that this has to be multilateral action, a \ncriteria that seems to have hamstrung us when it comes to many \noptions thus far and makes it look as if this is a state of \nparalysis.  The United States is the last remaining superpower.  Why \nis it not appropriate in this situation for the United States to act \nunilaterally?\n\n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Well, the United States -- surely you \nwould agree, that the United States, even as the last remaining \nsuperpower, has to act consistent with international law under some \nmandate of the United Nations.\n\n\t     Q\t  But you have a mandate and --\n\n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  They do, and that is one of the things \nthat we have under review.  I haven't ruled out any option for \naction.  I would remind all of you, I have not ruled out any option, \nexcept that we have not discussed and we are not considering the \nintroduction of American forces into continuing hostilities there.  \nWe are not.  \n\n\t     So we are reviewing other options.  But I also would \nremind you that, to be fair, our allies have had -- the French, the \nBritish and the Canadians -- have had troops on the ground there.  \nThey have been justifiably worried about those.  But they have \nsupported the airdrops, the toughening of the sanctions.  They \nwelcomed the American delegation now in Europe, working on how to \nmake these sanctions really work and really bite against Serbia.  And \nI can tell you that the other nations involved are also genuinely \nreassessing their position, and I would not rule out the fact that we \ncan reach an agreement for a concerted action that goes beyond where \nwe have been.  I don't have any criticism of the British, the French \nand others about that.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Would that be military action?\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Mr. President, several of the leading lights in \nyour administration, ranging from your FBI Director to your U.N. \nAmbassador, to your Deputy Budget Director to your Health Services \nSecretary, have issued statements in the last couple of weeks which \nare absolutely contradictory to some of the positions you've taken in \nyour administration.  Why is that?  Are you losing your political \ngrip?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Give me an example. \n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Example?  Judge Sessions said that there was no \nchild abuse in Waco.  Madeleine Albright has said in this morning's \nnewspapers, at least, that she favors air strikes in Bosnia.  All of \nthese are things you said that you didn't support.\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  First of all, I don't know what -- we \nknow that David Koresh had sex with children.  I think that is \nundisputed, is it not?  Is it not?  Does anybody dispute that?  Where \nI come from that qualifies as child abuse.  And we know that he had \npeople teaching these kids how to kill themselves.  I think that \nqualifies as abuse.  And I'm not criticizing Judge Sessions because I \ndon't know exactly what he said.\n\t     \n\t     In terms of Madeleine Albright, Madeleine Albright has \nmade no public statement at all about air strikes.  There is a press \nreport that she wrote me a confidential letter in which she expressed \nher -- or memo -- in which she expressed her views about the new \ndirection we should take in response to my request to all the senior \nmembers of my administration to let me know what they thought we \nought to do next.  And I have heard from her and from others about \nwhat they think we ought to do next.  And I'm not going to discuss \nthe recommendations they made to me, but in the next few days when I \nmake a decision about what to do, then I will announce what I'm going \nto do.  So I wouldn't say that either one of those examples qualifies \nspeaking out of school.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  How about the Value Added Tax, Mr. President?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  What was that?\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  The Value Added Tax -- Mrs. Rivlin and Miss Shalala \nboth said that they thought that that was a good idea.\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  I don't mind them saying they think it's \na good idea.  There are all kinds of arguments for it on policy \ngrounds.  That does not mean that we have decided to incorporate it \nin the health care debate.  No decision has been made on that.  And I \nhave no objection to their expressing their views on that.  We've had \na lot of people from business and labor come to us saying that they \nthought that tax would help make their particular industries more \ncompetitive in the global economy.  I took no -- that wasn't taking a \nline against an administration policy.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Mr. President, a week ago a group of gay and \nlesbian representatives came out of a meeting with you and expressed \nin the most ringing terms, their confidence in your understanding of \nthem and their political aspirations, and their belief that you would \nfulfill those aspirations.  Do you feel now that you will be able to \nmeet their now enhanced expectations?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Well, I don't know about that.  And I \ndon't know what their -- it depends on what the expectations are.  \nBut I'll tell you this:  I believe that this country's policies \nshould be heavily biased in favor of nondiscrimination.  I believe \nwhen you tell people they can't do certain things in this country \nthat other people can do, there ought to be an overwhelming and \ncompelling reason for it.  I believe we need the services of all of \nour people, and I have said that consistently.  And not as a \npolitical proposition.  The first time this issue came up was in 1991 \nwhen I was in Boston.  I was just asked the question about it.\n\t     \n\t     And I might add -- it's interesting that I have been \nattacked -- obviously, those who disagree with me here are primarily \ncoming from the political right in America.  When I was Governor, I \nwas attacked from the other direction for sticking up for the rights \nof religious fundamentalists to run their child care centers and to \npractice home schooling under appropriate safeguards.  I just have \nalways had an almost libertarian view that we should try to protect \nthe rights of American individual citizens to live up to the fullest \nof their capacities, and I'm going to stick right with that.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Are you concerned, sir, that you may have generated \nexpectations on their end and criticism among others that has \nhamstrung your administration in the sense of far too great emphasis \non this issue?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Yes, but I have not placed a great deal \nof emphasis on it.  It's gotten a lot of emphasis in other quarters \nand in the press.  I've just simply taken my position and tried to \nsee it through.  And that's what I do.  It doesn't take a lot of my \ntime as President to say what I believe in and what I intend to do, \nand that's what I'll continue to do.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Mr. President, getting back to the situation in \nBosnia -- and we understand you haven't made any final decisions on \nnew options previously considered unacceptable.  But the two most \ncommonly heard options would be lifting the arms embargo to enable \nthe Bosnian Muslims to defend themselves and to initiate some limited \nair strikes, perhaps, to cut off supply lines.  Without telling us \nyour decision -- presumably, you haven't made any final decisions on \nthose two options -- what are the pros and cons that are going \nthrough your mind right now and will weigh heavily on your final \ndecision?  \n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  I'm reluctant to get into this.  There \nare -- those are two of the options.  There are some other options \nthat have been considered.  All have pluses and minuses; all have \nsupporters and opponents within the administration and in the \nCongress, where, I would remind you, heavy consultations will be \nrequired to embark on any new policy.\n\t     \n\t     I do believe that on the air strike issue, the \npronouncements that General Powell has made generally about military \naction, apply there.  If you take action, if the United States takes \naction, we must have a clearly-defined objective that can be met.  We \nmust be able to understand it and its limitations must be clear.  The \nUnited States is not, should not, become involved as a partisan in a \nwar.  \n\t     \n\t     With regard to the lifting of the arms embargo, the \nquestion obviously there is if you widen the capacity of people to \nfight will that help to get a settlement and bring about peace?  Will \nit lead to more bloodshed?  What kind of reaction can others have \nthat would undermine the effectiveness of the policy?\n\t     \n\t     But I think both of them deserve some serious \nconsideration, along with some other options we have.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Do you think that these people who are trying to \nget us into war in Bosnia are really remembering that we haven't \ntaken care of hundreds of thousands of veterans from the last war and \nwe couldn't take care of our prisoners and get them all home from \nVietnam?   And now many of them are coming up with bills for \ntreatment of Agent Orange.  How can we afford to go to any more of \nthese wars?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Well, I think that's a good argument \nagainst the United States itself becoming involved as a belligerent \nin a war there.  But we are, after all, the world's only super power.  \nWe do have to lead the world  and there is a very serious problem of \nsystematic ethnic cleansing in the former Yugoslavia, which could \nhave not only enormous further humanitarian consequences -- and \ngoodness knows there have been many -- but also could have other \npractical consequences in other nearby regions where the same sorts \nof ethnic tensions exist.\n\n\t     Q\t  Did you make any kind of agreement with Boris \nYeltsin to hold off either on air strikes or any kind of aggressive \naction against the Serbs until after Sunday?  And in general, how has \nhis political situation affected your deliberation on Bosnia?\n\n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  No, I have not made any agreement, and \nhe did not ask for that.  We never even discussed that, interestingly \nenough.  The Russians, I would remind you, in the middle of President \nYeltsin's campaign, abstained from our attempt to get tougher \nsanctions through the United Nations in what I thought was the proper \ndecision for them and one that the United States and, I'm sure, the \nrest of the free world very much appreciated. \n\n\t     Q\t  Do you wish, Mr. President, that you'd become more \ninvolved in the planning of the Waco operation?  And how would you \nhandle that situation differently now?\n\n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  I don't think as a practical matter that \nthe President should become involved in the planning of those kinds \nof things at that detail.  One of the things that I'm sure will come \nout when we look into this is -- the questions will be asked and \nanswered, did all of us who up the line of command ask the questions \nwe should have asked and get the answers we should have gotten?  And \nI look forward to that.  But at the time, I have to say, as I did \nbefore, the first thing I did after the ATF agents were killed, once \nwe knew that the FBI was going to go in, was to ask that the military \nbe consulted because of the quasi, as least, military nature of the \nconflict given the resources that Koresh had in his compound and \ntheir obvious willingness to use them.  And then on the day before \nthe action, I asked the questions of the Attorney General which I \nhave reported to you previously, and which at the time I thought were \nsufficient.  I have -- as I said, I'm sure -- I leave it to others to \nmake the suggestions about whether there are other questions I should \nhave asked.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Mr. President, what is your assessment of Director \nSessions' role in the Waco affair?  And have you made a decision on \nhis future?  And if you haven't, will you give him a personal hearing \nbefore you do decide?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Well, first of all, I have no assessment \nof his role since I had no direct contact with him.  And I mean no \nnegative or positive inference.  I have no assessment there.  I stand \nby what I said before about my general high regard for the FBI.  And \nI'm waiting for a recommendation from the Attorney General about what \nto do with the direction of the FBI.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Mr. President, since you said that one side in \nBosnia conflict represents inhumanity that the Holocaust carried to \nthe nth degree, why do you then tell us that the United States cannot \ntake a partisan view in this war?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Well, I said that the principle of \nethnic cleansing is something we ought to stand up against.  That \ndoes not mean that the United States or the United Nations can enter \na war, in effect, to redraw the lines, geographical lines of \nrepublics within what was Yugoslavia, or that that would ultimately \nbe successful.\n\t     \n\t     I think what the United States has to do is to try to \nfigure out whether there is some way consistent with forcing the \npeople to resolve their own difficulties we can stand up to and stop \nethnic cleansing.  And that is obviously the difficulty we are \nwrestling with.  This is clearly the most difficult foreign policy \nproblem we face, and that all of our allies face.  And if it were \neasy, I suppose it would have been solved before.  We have tried to \ndo more in the last 90 days than was previously done.  It has clearly \nnot been enough to stop the Serbian aggression, and  we are now \nlooking at what else we can do.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Yesterday you specifically criticized the Roosevelt \nadministration for not having bombed the railroads to the \nconcentration camps and things that were near military targets.  \nAren't there steps like that that would not involve conflict --direct \nconflict or partisan belligerence that you might consider?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  There may be.  I would remind you that \nthe circumstances were somewhat different.  We were then at war with \nGermany at the time and that's what made that whole incident so --\nseries of incidents -- so perplexing.  But we have -- as I say, we've \ngot all of our options under review.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  The diplomatic initiative on Haiti is on the verge \nof collapse.  What can you do to salvage it short of a full-scale \nmilitary operation?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Well, you may know something I don't.  \nThat's not what our people tell me.  I think Mr. Caputo and \nAmbassador Pezzullo have done together a good job.  The thing keeps \ngoing back and forth because of the people who are involved with the \nde facto government there.  It's obvious what their concerns are.  \nThey were the same concerns that led to the ouster of Aristide in the \nfirst place, and President Aristide, we feel, should be restored to \npower.  We're working toward that.  I get a report on that -- we \ndiscuss it at least three times a week, and I'm convinced that we're \ngoing to prevail there and be successful.  \n\t     \n\t     I do believe that there's every reason to think that \nthere will have to be some sort of multilateral presence to try to \nguarantee the security and the freedom from violence of people on \nboth sides of the ledger while we try to establish the conditions of \nongoing civilized society.  But I believe we're going to prevail \nthere.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Mr. President, would you care to make your \nassessment of the first 100 days before we make one for you?  \n(Laughter.)\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Well, I'll say if -- I believe, first of \nall, we passed the budget resolution in record time.  That was the \nbiggest issue.  That confirmed the direction of the administration \nand confirmed the commitments of the campaign that we could both \nbring the deficit down and increase investment, and that we could do \nit by specific spending cuts and by raising taxes, almost all of \nwhich come from the highest income people in this society --reversing \na 12-year trend in which most of the tax burdens were borne by the \nmiddle class, whose incomes were going down when their taxes were \ngoing up, while the deficit went from $1 trillion to $4 trillion, the \ntotal national debt, and the deficit continued to go up.\n\t     \n\t     We have a 20-year low in interest rates from mortgages. \nWe have lower interest rates across the board.  We have tens of \nbillions of dollars flooding back into this economy as people \nrefinance their debt.  \n\t     \n\t     We have established a new environmental policy, which is \ndramatically different.  The Secretary of Education has worked with \nme and with others and with the governors to establish a new approach \nin education that focuses on tough standards, as well as increasing \nopportunity.  We have done an enormous amount of work on political \nreform, on campaign finance and lobbying reform.  And I have imposed \ntough ethics requirements on my own administration's officials.  \nThese things are consistent with not only what I said I'd do in the \ncampaign, but with turning the country around.  The Vice President is \nheading a task force which will literally change the way the federal \ngovernment operates and make it much more responsive to the citizens \nof this country.  \n\t     \n\t     We are working on a whole range of other things.  The \nwelfare reform initiative, to move people from welfare to work.  And, \nof course, a massive amount of work has been done on the health care \nissue, which is a huge economic and personal security problem for \nmillions of Americans.  \n\t     \n\t     So I think it is amazing how much has been done.  More \nwill be done.  We also passed the Family Leave bill.  A version of \nthe motor voter bill -- that has not come out of conference back to \nme yet.  And everything has been passed except the stimulus program.  \nSo I think we're doing fine and we're moving in the right direction.  \nI feel good about it.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Sir, a follow-up.  Wouldn't you say, though, that \none of your biggest initiatives, aid to Soviet Russia, is now \npractically finished -- if we can't pass a stimulus bill in our own \ncountry, how can we do it for them?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Let me recast the question a little bit.  \nIt's a good question -- (laughter) -- it's a good question, but to be \nfair we've got to recast it.  We have already -- the first round of \naid to the Soviet -- to non-Soviet Russia, to a democratic Russia, is \nplainly going to go through, the first $1.6 billion.  The aid that we \nagreed with our partners in the G-7 to provide through the \ninternational financial institutions, which is a big dollar item, is \nplainly going to go through.  The question is, can we get any more \naid for Russia that requires a new appropriation by the United States \nCongress?  And that is a question I think, Mary, that will be \nresolved in the weeks ahead, in part by what happens to the American \nworkers and their jobs and their future.  I think the two things will \nbe tied by many members of Congress.\n\n\t     Q\t  The tailhook report came out this morning, \ndocumenting horrendous and nearly-criminal conduct on the part of the \nNavy.  How much did you discuss the incident and what might be done \nabout it with your nominee to be the Secretary of the Navy?\n\n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  First, let me comment a little on that.  \nThe Inspector General's report details conduct which is wrong and \nwhich has no place in the armed services.  And I expect the report to \nbe acted on in the appropriate way.  I also want to say to the \nAmerican people and to all of you that the report should be taken for \nwhat it is, a very disturbing list of allegations which will have to \nbe thoroughly examined.  It should not be taken as a general \nindictment of the United States Navy or of all the fine people who \nserve there.  It is very specific in its allegations, and it will be \npursued.  \n\n\t     The only thing I said to the Secretary-Designate of the \nNavy and the only thing I should have said to him, I think, is that I \nexpected him to take the report and to do his duty.  And I believe he \nwill do that.\n\n\t     Q\t  Mr. President, to back to Russia for just a minute.  \nThe latest poll show that Mr. Yeltsin will probably win his vote of \nconfidence.  But there seems to be a real toss-up on whether or not \nvoters are going to endorse his economic reforms.  \n\n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  I understand that.  \n\n\t     Q\t  Can you live with a split -- (laughter) -- can you \nlive with a split decision, though, or do you need both passed in \norder to then build support for Russian aid?\n\n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  I believe -- the answer to your question \nis, for the United States, the key question should be that which is \nposed to any democracy, which is who wins the election.  If he wins \nthe election, if he is ratified by the Russian people to continue as \ntheir President, then I think we should do our best to work with him \ntoward reform.\n\t     \n\t     You know, we had a lot of other countries here for the \nHolocaust Museum dedication -- their leaders were here.  Leaders from \nEastern Europe, leaders from at least one republic of the former \nSoviet Union; all of them having terrible economic challenges as they \nconvert from a communist command and control economy to a market \neconomy in a world where there's economic slowdown everywhere.  And \nin a world in which there's economic slowdown and difficulty, all \nleaders will have trouble having their policies be popular in a poll \nbecause they haven't produced the results that the people so \nearnestly yearn for.  You can understand that.  \n\t     \n\t     But if they have confidence in the leadership, I think \nthat's all we can ask.  And the United States will -- if the Russian \npeople ratify him as their President and stick with him then the \nUnited States will continue to work with him.  I think he is a \ngenuine democrat -- small d -- and genuinely committed to reform.  I \nthink that we should support that.\n\n\t     Q\t  Mr. President, Mr. Perot has come out strongly in \nwhat is perceived behind the line against a free trade agreement --\nNAFTA.  How hard are you going to fight for this free trade agreement \nand when do you expect to see it accomplished?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  I think we'll have the agreement ready \nin the fairly near future.  You know, our people are still working \nwith the Mexican government and with the Canadians on the side \nagreements.  We're trying to work out what the environmental \nagreement will say, what the labor agreement will say, and then what \nthe fairest way to deal with enforcement is.  \n\t     \n\t     The Mexicans say, and there is some merit to their \nposition, that they're worried about transferring their sovereignty \nin enforcement to a multilateral commission.  Even in the United \nStates, to be fair, we have some folks who are worried about that --\nabout giving that up.  On the other hand, if we're going to have an \nenvironmental agreement and a labor standards agreement that means \nsomething, then there has to be ultimately some consequences for \nviolating them.  So what we're trying to do is to agree on an \napproach which would say that if there is a pattern of violations --\nif you keep on violating it past a certain point -- maybe not an \nisolated incident, but a pattern of violation -- there is going to be \nsome enforcement.  There must be consequences.  And we're working out \nthe details of that.\n\t     \n\t     But I still feel quite good about it.  And this is just \nan area where I disagree with Mr. Perot and with others.  I think \nthat we will win big if we have a fair agreement that integrates more \nclosely the Mexican economy and the American economy and leads us \nfrom there to Chile to other market economies in Latin America, and \ngives us a bigger world in which to trade.  I think that's the only \nway a rich country can grow richer.  If you look at what Japan and \nother countries in the Pacific are doing to reach out in their own \nregion, it's a pretty good lesson to us that we had better worry \nabout how to build those bridges in our own area.  \n\t     \n\t     So this is an idea battle.  You know, you've got a lot \nof questions and I want to answer them all, but let me say not every \none of these things can be distilled simply into politics -- you \nknow, who's for this and who's for that, and if this person is for \nthis, somebody else has got to be for that.  A lot of these things \nhonestly involved real debates over ideas, over who's right and wrong \nabout the world toward which we're moving.  And the answers are not \nself-evident.  And one of the reasons that I wanted to run for \nPresident is I wanted to sort of open the floodgates for debating \nthese ideas so that we could try to change in the appropriate way.  \nSo I just have a difference of opinion.  I believe that the concept \nof NAFTA is sound, even though, as you know, I thought that the \ndetails needed to be improved.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Mr. President, there was a tremendous flurry of \ninterest earlier this month in the Russian document that purported to \nshow that the Vietnamese had held back American prisoners.  General \nVessey has now said publicly that while the document itself was \nauthentic, he believes that it was incorrect.  Do you have a personal \nview at this point about that issue?  And more broadly, do you \nbelieve that, in fact, the Vietnamese did return all the American \nprisoners at the time of the Paris Peace Accord?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  First let me say, I saw General Vessey \nbefore he went to Vietnam and after he returned.  And I have a high \nregard for him and I appreciate his willingness to serve his country \nin this way.  As to whether the document had any basis in fact, let \nme say that the government of Vietnam was more forthcoming than it \nhad been in the past and gave us some documents that would tend to \nundermine the validity of the Russian documents claim.\n\t     \n\t     I do not know whether that is right or wrong.  We are \nhaving it basically evaluated at this time, and when we complete the \nevaluation, we'll tell you.  And, of course, we want to tell the \nfamilies of those who were missing in action or who were POWs.  I \nthink that we'll be able to make some progress in eliminating some of \nthe questions about the outstanding cases as a result of this last \ninterchange, but I cannot say that I'm fully satisfied that we know \nall that we need to know.  There are still some cases that we don't \nknow the answer to.  But I do believe we're making some progress.  I \nwas encouraged by the last trip.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  I'd like to follow up on that.  Before the U.S. \nnormalizes relations, allows trade to go forward, do you have to be \npersonally sure that every case has been resolved or would you be \nwilling to go forward on the basis that while it may take years to \nresolve these cases, the Vietnamese have made sufficient offerings to \nus to confirm good faith?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  A lot of experts say you can never \nresolve every case, every one, that we couldn't resolve all the cases \nfor them and that there are still some cases that have not been \nfactually resolved, going back to the Second World War.  But what I \nwould have to be convinced of is that we had gone a long way toward \nresolving every case that could be resolved at this moment in time, \nand that there was a complete, open and unrestricted commitment to \ncontinue to do everything that could be done always to keep resolving \nthose cases.  And we're not there yet.  \n\t     \n\t     Again, I have to be guided a little bit by people who \nknow a lot about this.  And I confess to being much more heavily \ninfluenced by the families of the people whose lives were lost there, \nor whose lives remain in question than by the commercial interest and \nthe other things which seem so compelling in this moment.  I just am \nvery influenced by how the families feel.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t     your economic stimulus package, are you doing \nsome kind of reality check now and scaling back some of your plans, \nyour legislative plans for the coming year, including the crime bill, \nthe health care initiative and other things?  Are there any plans to \ndo that?  And also, did you underestimate the power of Senator Bob \nDole?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  No, what I underestimated was the extent \nto which what I thought was a fairly self-evident case, particularly \nafter we stayed below the spending caps approved by this Congress, \nincluding the Republicans who were in this Congress last year -- when \nwe had already passed a budget resolution which called for over $500 \nbillion in deficit reduction.  When they had voted repeatedly for \nsupplemental appropriations to help foreign governments, I thought at \nleast four of them would vote to break cloture, and I underestimated \nthat.  I did not have an adequate strategy of dealing with that.  \n\t     \n\t     I also thought that if I made a good-faith effort to \nnegotiate and to compromise, that it would not be rebuffed.  Instead, \nevery time I offered something they reduced the offer that they had \npreviously been talking to the Majority Leader about.  So it was a \nstrange set of events.  But I think what happened was what was a \nsignificant part of our plan, but not the major part of it, acquired \na political connotation that got out of proportion to the merits, so \nthat a lot of Republicans were saying to me privately, \"Mr. \nPresident, I'd like to be for this, but I can't now.  And we're all \nstrung out and we're divided.\"  \n\t     \n\t     And I think we need to do a reality check.  As I said, \nwhat I want to know -- let me go back to what I said -- what I want \nto know from our folks and from our friends in the Senate on -- and \nRepublicans or Democrats -- is what could I have done differently to \nmake it come out differently.  Because the real losers here were not \nthe President and the administration.  The real losers were the \nhundreds of thousands of people who won't have jobs now.  We could \nhave put another 700,000 kids to work this summer.  I mean, we could \nhave done a lot of good things with that money.  And I think that is \nvery, very sad.  And it became more political than it should have.  \nBut the underlying rationale I don't think holds a lot of water --\nthat it was deficit spending.  That just won't wash.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t     and redo --\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  No.  I mean, you know, for example --you \nmentioned the crime bill.  I think it would be a real mistake not to \npass the crime bill.  I mean, the crime bill was almost on the point \nof passage last year.  And they were all fighting over the Brady \nBill.  Surely, surely after what we have been through in this country \njust in the last three months, with the kind of mindless violence we \nhave seen, we can pass a bill requiring people to go through a \nwaiting period before they buy a handgun.  And surely we can see that \nwe need more police officers on the street.  \n\t     \n\t     That's another thing that -- I really believe that once \nwe move some of that money -- not all, but some of it up into this \njobs package to make some of the jobs rehiring police officers on the \nstreet who'd been laid off, that would be a compelling case.  I mean \npeople are scared in this country and I think we need to go forward. \nI feel very strongly that we need to go forward on the crime bill.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Mr. President, back to the tailhook report for a \nsecond.  That report contained very strong criticism of the Navy's \nsenior leadership in general, but did not name any of the senior \nofficers.  Do you believe that the senior officers who are implicated \nin this, including Admiral Kelso who was there one night in Las \nVegas, should they be disciplined and do you believe the public has a \nright to know the names of the senior officers?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  You should know that under the rules of \nlaw which apply to this, I am in the chain of command.  There is now \nan Inspector General's report and the law must take its course.  If I \nwere to answer that question I might prejudice any decisions which \nmight be later made in this case.  I don't really think -- I think \nall I can tell you is what I have already said.  I was very disturbed \nby the specific allegations in the Inspector General's report, and I \nwant appropriate action to be taken.  \n\t     \n\t     Until the proper procedures have a chance to kick in and \nappropriate action is taken, I have been advised that because I am \nthe Commander-in-Chief I have to be very careful about what I say so \nas not to prejudice the rights of anybody against whom any action \nmight proceed or to prejudice the case in any other way either pro or \ncon.  So I can't say any more except to say that I want this thing \nhandled in an appropriate and thorough way.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Mr. President, could I ask you for a clarification \non Bosnia?  You said that you were not considering introduction of \nAmerican forces.  Does that include any air forces as well as ground \nforces, sir?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  I said ground forces.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  You said ground forces.  Could I ask you, sir, if \nyou fear that using U.S. air strikes might  draw the United States \ninto a ground war there?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  I just don't want to discuss our \nevaluation of the options anymore.  I've told you that there's never \nbeen a serious discussion in this country about the introduction of \nground forces into an ongoing conflict there.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  With hundreds of thousands of gays in Washington \nthis weekend for the march, did you ever reconsider your decision to \nleave town for this weekend?  Did you ever consider in any way \nparticipating in some of the activities? \n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  No.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Why not?\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Because I -- and, basically, I wouldn't \nparticipate in other marches.  I think once you become President, on \nbalance, except under unusual circumstances, that is not what should \nbe done.  But more importantly, I'm going to the American Society of \nNewspaper Editors, a trip that presumably most of you would want me \nto make, to try to focus anew on what I think are the fundamental \nissues at stake for our country right now.  And I expect that I will \nsay something about the fact that a lot of Americans have come here, \nasking for a climate that is free of discrimination; asking, \nbasically, to be able to work hard and live by the rules and be \ntreated like other American citizens if they do that, and just that.  \nAnd that's always been my position -- not only for the gays who will \nbe here, but for others as well.  \n\t     \n\t     Thank you very much.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nI see what you are getting at (or at least I think I do).  Correct me if\nI am mistaken, but I *think* you are asking me if I still believe that we\nshould uphold all of the Laws pertaining to capital punishment for such\nthings as adultery, rape and other heinous crimes.  As you may recall,\nJesus was confronted by this same question in regards to the adultress\nwho was caught in the act and brought before Jesus.  And His reply, \"Let\nhe who is without sin cast the first stone.\"  Jesus does not deny the\nsentence that is to due for this violation of the Law.  What do you think\nof this?\n\n\nAgreed.  :)\n \n\nAgreed also.  If one is to use the Bible as a reference, one must always be\nopen to different interpretations.  As a Christian, I have the Spirit of God\nto verify what I believe in the Word.  If what the Spirit tells me is not\nbacked up in scripture then the spirit I am communicating with is not of\nGod.  After all, Jesus tells us to \"test the spirits\" to know for sure that\nit is from God.\n\n\nI obey what the Spirit of God tells me to do.  The Spirit will not violate\nanything that is written in the Bible because that is the Word of God.  I do\nnot worship pastors, preachers, my wife, my mother or my father.  What they\ntell me does not carry the weight of what God tells me to do and His commands\nare rienforced in the Bible.\n \n\nEternal damnation is the consequence of the choice one makes in rejecting\nGod.  If you choose to jump off a cliff, you can hardly blame God for you \ngoing *splat* at the bottom.  He knows that if you choose to jump, that \nyou will die but He will not prevent you from making that choice.  In fact,\nHe sent His Son to stand on the edge of the cliff and tell everyone of what\nlies below.  To prove that point, Jesus took that plunge Himself but He being\nGod was able to rise up again.  I have seen the example of Christ and have \nchosen not to jump and I'm trying to tell you not to jump or else you'll \ngo *splat*.\n \nYou don't have to listen to me and I won't stop you if you decide to jump.\nI only ask that you check it out before taking the plunge.  You owe it to\nyourself.  I don't like seeing anyone go *splat*.\n\nGod be with you,","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nThis question comes up frequently enough that there should be a faq\nabout it...","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nYeah sure.  Maybe thermal GUNSIGHTS on the armored vehicles.  When\ndiscussing military hardware and weapons, the media generally looks like\na ufology convention.\n\n\nCS is merely the garden variety military teargas.  As far as it being\n\"humane and harmless\", I've seen teenage boys knock 200lb. drill\nsergeants flat getting away from it....\n\nWhat do you expect when idiots and criminals confirm paranoids in their\nparanoia...?\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
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{"text":"\n\nAll you have to do is buy a MacroMedia MacRecorder. This plugs into your\nseril port and acts as a microphone. North Star computers should be able\nto order you one.\n-- \n---------------------------------------\nLiam Morland  ad358@freenet.carleton.ca","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I found this on the net at my college. It sounds pretty good to me. What do\n    you folks think?\n\n    >This are the tenets of Stan as handed down and set within the Holy Book \n    >of Stan.\n    >\n    >1: Thou shalt not spill thine drinks or waste thine food, for all that \n    >is is sacred, and to waste is the denizen of Luc, the Infidel. All who \n    >waste today shall have not tomorrow.\n    >\n    >2: Thou shalt pay heed to those who know the higher calling of Stan so\n    >that they may teach you the way, and that thou shalt become one with\n    >Stan and the universe shall be in your hands.\n    >\n    >3: Thou shalt honor thy loved ones and cherish those near you, for they\n    >are the true path to happiness, and happiness is a devine gift of thy\n    >lord Stan.\n    >\n    >4: Stan is the one true God and shall be taken before all others so\n    >that the false gods will know that he is the one, and all who oppose\n    >him shall forever be banished to the form of the sheep and be sent to\n    >the flocks of Luc for all eternity.\n    >\n    >5: The word is the law, and the law is the word. The word is within\n    >thine own heart, follow the path and be true to thine own self and thou\n    >shalt be blessed by Stan, thy lord and saviour.\n    >    \n    >6: Thou shalt honor the faiths of others, for it is their choice to\n    >follow this path, and do not think less of others for being of a\n    >different faith, yet even in the face of these false gods, do not\n    >waiver in thine faith in Stan, and hope that the unbeliever will see\n    >the light that is Stan.\n    >\n    >7: Thou shalt not wrong others for being different, for Stan cherishes\n    >the different, and holds freedom in the highest regard, for to do less\n    >would be to fall in with Luc, the Infidel, for Stan does not control,\n    >he merely guides, and lets the choice lie within thine own heart.\n    >\n    >8: Thou shalt know that thy lord Stan has many names and is called\n    >differently by many people, but know also that Stan is the true name,\n    >and all those of the faith shall know that Stan is God and God is Stan.\n    >\n    >9: Thou shalt be to the world what thou art to thineself, for to be\n    >false to others is to be false to yourself. Thy lord Stan asks not that\n    >you be like him, he asks only that you be like yourself for that is all\n    >you were ever meant to be.\n    >\n    >10: Thou shalt not kill the innocent nor spill blood unnecessarily, for\n    >those who are deserving of death shall be dealt with by Stan and sent\n    >for all eternity to the flocks of Luc, and those who harm the children \n    >of Stan, being born of Woman, shall be judged as the sheep of\n    >Luc and spend all of time within his flocks.\n    >\n    >These commandments are the words of Stan. Heed them and he shall be\n    >happy, and if thy lord Stan is happy, his happiness shall be passed\n    >down to his followers.\n    >\n    >Hail Stan!\n\n   It seems like a pretty good set of tenets to me.\n\n\t\t\t\t-=V=-\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nI like kittens... | E-Mail:                    | Robert Voss            | DIE!!\nEspecially with   | rgv9488@ultb.isc.rit.edu   | 25 Andrews Memorial Dr | DIE!!\na side order of   | RGV9488@RITVAX.ISC.RIT.EDU | CPU# 01479             | DIE!!\nfrench fries...   | RGV9488@RITVAX.BITNET      | Rochester NY 14623     | DIE!!\n------------------------------------------------------------------------| DIE!!\n    I AM DARKNESS ETERNAL! CALL ME! MY PHONE NUMBER IS (716) 475-4197   | DIE!!","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\tThis is a real address. My understanding of the current process\nthat mail takes is it gets downloaded on floppy disk and is processed\nby retiree volunteers, who match the message against message profiles\nand check the message count. (I.e.: \"yeah, that's a for gays in the\nmilitary. what's this clipper stuff? must be against gays in the\nmilitary...\")\n\n\tThe higher-volume white-house email stuff is in the works,\nI know for a fact, but won't be online for probably another month\nor two at the soonest. My understanding is that the link speed will\nincrease (direct internet instead of Compu$erve to floppy) but the\nmessage processing will remain the same.\n\n\n\tThe white house email does get read. I agree that printing it\nand sending Cc: to everyone you can think of is probably better because\nit is more visible, but the message processing (fitting messages against\na template) is the same in either case.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nYes, that's exactly what I felt.  My heart just felt that what I was\nbeing taught was *wrong* -- a basically good message, but framed in\nerrors.  I could not with a clear conscience accept that women were\nsomehow not equal to men, that homosexuals are \"guilty\" of their\nlifestyle, that pride in one's work is a bad thing, that Jesus died\nfor me -- I don't want ANYBODY to die for me, especially as an\nimpersonal act where the person can't possibly even *know* me well\nenough to really know if I'm worth dying for or not.\n\nI was never able to accept the bit about Jesus's death being a good\nthing.  If that means that I'm just not comprehending a basic message\nof Christianity, then so be it.  Maybe I'm just not compatible with\nChristianity.  I just refuse to follow rules blindly, and since I\ncan't even convince myself that your god even EXISTS in the way you\ndescribe it, I've got to just follow my own conscience in these matters.\n\n\nDon't think that my morals are shoddy or nonexistent just because I\ndon't believe in your god.  I will not steal, and I will not murder --\nnot because I fear divine repudiation, but because these just *aren't*\nin my character.  You may think there's nothing keeping me from just\nrunning around on a murdering spree, stealing things when I'm able,\ninsulting people for the heck of it, because I'm not answerable to\nanyone; but you'd be wrong.  I'm answerable to myself.  A life like\nthat would be a cheap life; I happen to want to earn respect in myself.\n\n\nMy initial break with Christianity came after a lot of soul-searching\nand a lot of wondering why I could no longer feel the 'presence' of\nGod with me.  I finally decided that I had once \"felt\" this presence\njust as I had \"felt\" my mighty teddy bear beside me when I was a\nlittle tyke, protecting me from the monsters under the bed -- that I\nhad believed in God just as I had believed in the teddy bear, as\nsomething of an emotional crutch to protect me from perceived dangers.\n\nSince then, I've never abandoned the possibility that maybe your\nsupernatural trinity does exist.  But there are a few times when, in\nmy darkened room by my bed, I have set aside everything I believe for\na moment and called out to whatever's out there, because I want to\nknow the truth even if it means abandoning everything I know.  And I\nhave not yet received an answer.\n\n\nNope.  It may well be unknowable.  Scientists have suggested that the\nuniverse may be finite and wrap around on itself (the three-dimensional\nuniverse may be mapped onto a four-dimensional supersphere in the same\nway you can map a two-dimensional plane onto a three-dimensional\nsphere; see _Sphereland_, the sequel to _Flatland_, for more thoughts\non this).  Our entire universe might just be an electron in a four-\ndimensional universe, which in turn may only be an insignificant speck\nin a universe above that, and so on and so forth until the variables\nbecome too much for us to even speculate on.\n\nThat is, there's no possible way for us to know exactly how we came to\nbe, so there's no reason at all to believe that your God exists nor\nhad anything to do with it.\n\n\nChristians have provided me with nothing except quotes from your holy\nbook, and all sorts of tactics to try to get me to believe: guilt\ntrips, insinuations that I'm without morals, arguments from disbelief\n(\"how can you possibly believe that God *doesn't* exist?\"), and so\nforth.  All I'm asking is for you to convince me.  I want to be convinced,\nbut it's not going to be easy.\n\n\nHaving had years upon years of contact with your religion from both\nthe inside and the outside, I view it as harmful in many ways.  It\npreys on people who want to find meaning in their lives, and once it's\ngot these people, it teaches them to have pity (and sometimes starkly\nintolerant) of others who do not share these views.  Maybe you'll say\nthat your religion doesn't teach that -- but I've got to judge\nChristianity from the Christians I know.\n\nI feel that it is entirely possible and good to have faith in one's\nself, and to be a positive influence on society for no better reason\nthan that.\n\nSo I hope that my words in this newsgroup will at least make some\npeople think.  I want Christians to realize that there are perfectly\nvalid lifestyles and opinions that have nothing to do with their deity\nwhatsoever, and I want people who are considering Christianity to\nrealize that Christianity does not hold the sole key to a happy,\nfulfilled life.\n\nI have known some very nice Christians who have done some very nice\nthings.  I think what sets these people apart from the general masses\nis that they recognize that their religious beliefs may be wrong, and\nthey know the weaknesses of their religion, yet they still decide to\nbelieve, but they keep their beliefs to themselves and do not think\nany less of people who don't agree with them.\n\n\nPrecisely my point.  You've still not given me a reason to be a\nChristian instead of a Buddhist or a Moslem...\n\n\n... just as the Moslems aren't religious, and the Buddhists aren't\nreligious.  Who *is* religious, then?\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nIf Croats are now divided, it is because Croatia seceded from Yugoslavia.\nCroats in Croatia, B-H, and Serbia were in *one* country--Yugoslavia--\nuntil they divided themselves. \n\nIf Muslims are now divided, it is because B-H seceded from Yugoslavia.\nMuslims in Croatia, B-H, and Serbia were in *one* country--Yugoslavia--\nuntil they divided themselves.\n\nThat Croats and Muslims in Yugoslavia decided to divide themselves does\n*not* give them the right to divide Serbs in Yugoslavia.\n\nCroatia and B-H shoulder the burden for dividing their own nations among\nvarious unstable countries.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\nOK, here's my results so far....\n\n1: You have to define the monitor as LCD - it doesn't really support\n   Analogue video input (It works, but isn't very linear...)\n\n2: The incoming sync pulses need inverting. This is best achieved\n   with either a cmos XOR package or a transistor inverter.\n   If you don't know how to do it, don't even contemplate it.. :-)\n\n3: It'll only work in standard VGA mode.\n\nOK, having said that, I'm trying to either find a circuit or IC\nwhich will act as a universal sync decoder.\n\nI want somethikng which basically only detects the leading sync\npulse edge, and doesn't care about the polarity, outputting\nthe -ve going pulses that the atari monitor requires.\n\nThere are 2 reasons for doing this\n\n1: VGA cards change their sync polarity depending which mode they're\n   in - herc emulation is +,- while MVGA is +,+ for example.\n\n2: It means I don't have to put a toggle switch on the back of the\n   monitor in order to be able to run it off both the atari and my\n   IBM. Currently I have 3 (Yes, 3!) monitors sitting on my desk,\n   and I want to get that number down as much as possible.\n   Being able to use the atari monitor as a paper-white VGA\n   will cut things down to 2. If I forget about Atari colour,\n   I can get down to 1.\n\nUltimately, the best course of action is to get a multisync monitor,\nbut I'm as pressed for cash as anyone else, so it'll have to wait...\n\n\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nTo paraphrase, I may not agree with what you're encrypting, but I defend\nyour right to encrypt it.\n\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n[ ... Mr. Mamaysky's proposal to forbid \"any action which serves to promote a\n      morally incorrect action\" omitted for brevity ...]\n\nI prefer the freedom granted in the first amendment of the US\nConstitution to an arbitrary definition of \"universal morality.\"\nSteve\nP.S.  I can elaborate in e-mail if this isn't clear\nP.P.S.  I'm very sorry about misspelling your name","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nBusLogic just announced the BT445 FAST SCSI-2 VLB Interface as of\nApril 20.  This always happens to me!\n\nI have a one week old BT545S which is the ISA version.  I am\nenjoying spectacular performance with a Micropolis MC2105 560mb 10ms\n3.5\" HH 5200 RPM drive.  I'll be changing to the BT445 VERY soon,\nthough it is difficult to imagine even higher transfer speeds with\nthe 32bit VESA support.\n\nYou can call BusLogic and ask 'em about the NT question. I hear that\nthe support is excellent.   I have not had to call them myself yet.\nRegards.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I made a few phone calls today, and found that if you call the Bill Room at\nthe Sacramento State Capitol, you may order free of charge any bills that\nare currently being pushed.  I was told that they will only fill an order of\nfive bills per phone call, but when I asked kindly and told the nice lady that\nit was very important, she filled my order for ten.\n\nCalifornia State Bill Room\n916-445-2323\n\nSubject:  Re: Need Senate Bill numbers and House Resolution numbers\n \nSorry I forgot to include this in my previous letter but we also\nhave to worry about State bills.  These are the ones that I am\ncurrently aware of:\n\nSB 292\nSB 247\nSB 67\nSB 89\nSB 180\n\nAB 117\nAB 155\nAB 166\nAB 482\nAB 501\n\nMy thanks to Bob Hale for providing the bill numbers!\n\n\/------------------------------------------------------------------------\\\n\\------------------------------------------------------------------------\/","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I am looking for a 20\/40 MHz scope, in good condition.  Please email me or call me at (713)280-2788.\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
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{"text":"I'm writing a driver that needs to remap some I\/O ports.  This means\nvirtual mode.  Unfortunately virtual mode means it won't get along\nwith expanded memory managers, so I need make it an EMM driver too.\n\nDoes anyone out there have EMM code.  Can any point me to an EMM code source?\n\n-Thanks, Morgan","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Are you pretending not knowing it? Here is why:\n\"Those who are not obedient to we West must be evil!\".\n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"The fan in my power supply, like most, is distractingly LOUD. Has anyone found \na solution to running a pc with peace and quiet? Short of buying a notebook \nPC, I don't know what to do. Oh yeah, I did hear about a power supply called a \n\"Silencer\" - which is supposed to be more quiet. Has anyone had experience with\nthis? I was quoted a price of $225 (!) for a 270Watt Silencer.\n\nI've even considered stuffing my PC case in one of those acoustic \"printer \nenclosures\", but that wouldn't be the most elegant solution. Also, I'm \nguessing that would also cut the ventilation.\n\nAny other ideas?\n\nThanks in advance for ANY suggestions! Please E-mail whatever you post...\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"REFLECTIONS ON BOSNIA\n\nLORD OWEN AND THE SERBS\n\nIn early February '93, Lord Owen made appearances in New York City\non the Donahue and Charlie Rose shows. On a couple of occasions on\nthose shows Lord Owen gave away his pro-Serbian position when he\nmade the point that much or most of the Bosnian territory then in\ndispute or already overrun by Serbian forces had been controlled\nand occupied by Serbs before WWII.  It was as if he were saying\nthat since the Serbs had previously occupied those territories and\nlost them during the Hitler years, they should be allowed to\nreconquer them today.\n\nI was familiar with this view because my father, a Yugoslav Jew\nwho escaped to this country during the war, was aided and found\nsympathy among the Serbs during those harrowing years.  In recent\nmonths when the subject of Serbian aggression was mentioned, my\nfather would make the point that 850,000 Serbs were killed by Nazi\nand pro-Nazi Croatian forces known as the Ustasha.  My father is\nso pro-Serbian that he dismissed reports of Serbian atrocities. My\nfather also excoriated New York Times columnist Anthony Lewis,\nbecause, my father said, Anthony Lewis \"is always talking about\nthe Muslims.\"\n\nUpdate--April 28, 1993 After an uneasy truce in and around\nSbernica, shelling has resumed in nearby areas by all sides and\nthe killing and the misery continues apace while the Clinton\nadministration dithers its response.  In the days leading to the\ncollapse of resistance at Sbernica, Lord Owen changed his tune.\nPreviously he had opposed military intervention on the grounds\nthat it would endanger U.N. relief workers. When Serbian forces\nbegan to march on Sbernica, the threat to U.N. relief soldiers\nwent unmentioned while Lord Owen called for outside intervention\nto stop Serbian aggression, including the use of air strikes.  The\ncurrent disastrous situation can be seen as a failure of the West\nand a failure of the Vance-Owen initiative which did nothing to\nhalt the Serbs. Now that it's too late to save Muslim areas that\nLord Owen felt should be in a Muslim state, Lord Owen belatedly\ncalls for strong action.\n\nCLINTON AND BOSNIA\n\nIn the summer of 1992, George Kenney, a senior State Department\nofficial, the undersecretary in charge of the Yugoslav desk, made\nnews when he resigned from the State Department because of the\nBush administration's refusal to take any action to halt Serbian\naggression.  As Kenney saw it, Bush's inaction was largely due to\nthe president's unwillingness to risk any political capital by\ngetting involved there.\n\nApparently the same is true of the Clinton administration.\nClinton gives the impression that he cares more than Bush did\nabout the terrible ongoing tragedy, but the practical effect has\nso far been the same.\n\nAccording to the New York Times, (4\/16\/93) the Clinton\nadministration did everything it could to suppress a mid-March\nreport by its own experts which called for military action if\nnecessary to protect \"safe havens\" for the Muslims. At one point,\nSenate majority leader, George Mitchell was so incensed that the\nreport was kept from Congress, that he called for an\ninvestigation.\n\nInstead of helping the desperate Bosnians, Clinton has signalled\nagain and again that Milosevic and the Serbs are free to do what\nthey want in Bosnia--indeed, Clinton and the West have been\nsignalling that the Serbs should get on with the job and finish\noff the Bosnians as quickly as possible while we turn the other\nway.  A key signal was when Clinton made it clear that he would\nNOT send in American military forces on the ground.  On this\nissue, Clinton has made me wistful for Bush.  Bush and Baker could\nnot have done worse, and might have been pressured to do better\nwell before this time.  Lives in Bosnia might have been saved and\nthe destruction might have been curtailed..\n\nThe Nation, the left and \"the Bosnian QUANDARY\"\n\nTypical of the left's inability to come to grips with the core\nissue involved in Bosnia, i.e., a clear aggressor destroying\nhundreds of thousands of lives, is the editorial on the \"Bosnian\nquandary\" in The Nation (4\/26\/93).  In the end the editorial votes\nto do nothing, even while noticing \"the ghastly atrocities of the\nBosnian Serbs\"  and that the \"greater and lesser powers...dither\nand fuss [and] hang back.\" (\"Before anything else happens, the\nClinton Administration ought to pay the $530 million the United\nStates owes the\" U.N. the editorial concludes.)\n\nIn its most striking passage, the editorial writer warns that\n\"those who are pushing President Clinton to intervene on the side\nof the Bosnians had better review U.S. foreign policy since World\nWar II.\"  The editorial argues for inaction on the basis that the\nBosnian Serbs are no worse than any number of U.S. clients\nincluding the Chileans, the South Africans, the Greek fascists and\nothers. (In a subsequent column for The Nation, Christopher\nHitchens correctly called this editorial, \"contemptible.\")\n\n***\n\nWilliam Pfaff, a European based journalist who writes for the The\nNew Yorker and the Los Angeles Times, is among a group of liberal\ncolumnists like Anthony Lewis, and Leslie Gelb who have clearly\nand consistently called for strong Western and American\nintervention to stop the Serbs.  Pfaff's most recent column\n(Liberal Opinion Week 4\/19\/93) is entitled \"International\nCowardice Worsened Bosnian Tragedy.\"\n\nHe clarifies the international failure which has led to present\nsituation in one sentence. \"Having refused to intervene to\nsanction the threat to minority rights in newly independent\nCroatia in June 1991, or to block or penalize the military\naggression by Serbia that immediately followed, and the atrocious\n\"ethnic cleansing\" which followed that, the United Nations now\ncontemplates deploying in Bosnia military force on a scale which\ntwo years ago could have deterred the horrors Yugoslavia has since\nexperienced.\"  He goes on to explain that U.N. plans now envisaged\ncall for a \"more daunting and open-ended military assignment than\na direct military intervention to halt the aggression would have\nbeen a year ago.\"\n\nAryeh Neier on the Serbs In his \"Watching Rights\" column in the\nThe Nation (5\/3\/93) Aryeh Neier gets to the heart of the\nmotivation of the \"aggressors\"--the preferred term for the Serbian\nforces who have been besieging and shelling Sarajevo for more than\na year.  He explains that \"there is no  military purpose that is\nserved by the destruction of its fabric and its people...Above\nall, few of those aligned with the forces attacking Sarajevo would\nwant to live there even if the city could be rebuilt.  They are\nnot city people.\n\n\"It is this, I believe--aside from a desire to break the morale of\nBosnians and make them press their government to accept peace at\nany price--that explains the conduct of the siege of\nSarajevo...[I]t is a loathing for all that is urban, pluralist and\ncosmopolitan that has made Sarajevo the object for devastation.\n\n\"Historically, most of the Serbian population in Bosnia and\nHerzegovina has been rural, while Muslims, who were the civil\nservants and intelligentsia during the centuries of Ottoman rule,\nmade up a disproportionate share of the urban population....The\ndestruction of Sarajevo is not only an expression of hostility\nagainst this city; it is also an attack on the urban idea....The\ndemagogues who whipped up the passions let loose by this war\nexploited not only ethnic and religious bigotry but also hatred\nfor all that is cosmopolitan.\"\n\nThe light that Neier sheds on the issue helps to clarify what is\nat stake.  The Serbs represent the know-nothing, anti-secularist,\nfundamentalist, fascist forces who are attacking the urban,\ncosmopolitan, secular, multi-cultural idea.  They are attacking\nthe rest of us, just as Hitler did. One irony is that at the\nbeginning of the crisis over Bosnia, it was for awhile maintained\nby the Serbs and their supporters that they were responding to a\nthreat by the Bosnian Muslims to create a fundamentalist state.\n\nNeier has shown that it is the Serbs who are  the great threat to\nsecularism, multi-culturalism, diversity and democracy.  It's the\nSerbs who are attacking the democratic notion, the democratic\nidea.\n\nAnthony Lewis comes close to the point when he asks why does\nrespect for Clinton's presidency \"depend...on his acting\neffectively against Serbian aggression?...First of all because to\ndo nothing about genocide would be such a betrayal of the values\nwe and our allies profess.\"  (Times, 4\/26\/93) But it's not merely\na betrayal of our values.  It's because the Serbs are attacking us\nby proxy, just as Hitler was.\n\nOne argument for decisive action by the West that is heard in a\ndifferent form, is that war in the Balkans is destablizing for\nEurope.  We hear it as, the Bosnians are Europe's Palestinians;\nthat is to say, just as the Palestinian refugee problem has been\nthe key to instability in the Middle East, just so will the\nhundreds of thousands of Yugoslav refugees of all ethnicities\nresult in turmoil in Europe for decades to come.\n\nOne of the lessons of the twentieth century is that even though\nthe Atlantic Ocean divides us, the Americas are ultimately tied to\nthe destiny of Europe. If Europe is destabilized, the U.S. will\ninevitably be affected and drawn into its problems.  As in a\nwhirlpool,  sooner or later we will be drawn into the maelstrom.\nAnd as past history and Pfaff have shown, it's much better if we\ndo so decisively, quickly and on our terms.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\tAgain we have the trust in government problem here. Members of \nMr. Sternlight's generation trust the government to a degree which\nmembers of my generation find ridiculous. I would suggest that Mr. Sternlight\nread about the COINTELPRO program, or about J. Edgar Hoover, or about\nthe wire-tapping of Martin Luther King, then, after he has digested this\ninformation he can ponder the fact that while the government does not\ntap every conversation that they have a record of tapping many conversations\nthat they have no right to, even under their own laws. Given the long\nhistory of members of the US government ignoring the laws that apply\nto them, it is no wonder that so many people in here sound so paranoid, and\ngiven the fact that it is often difficult or impossible to punish these\nindividuals once they are discovered, it is no wonder that so many people\nin here have so little faith in the escrow proposal for Clipper.\n\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"We tried to compile an old X11R4\/Motif program with X115 and a newer\nVersion of Motif.\n\nBut we newer succeed. Any ideas?\n\nCC  -o xtrack.new main.o libxtrack.a ..\/xutils\/libxutils.a ..\/pmshort\/libpmshort.a  ..\/matrix\/libmatrix.a  otte\/lib_otte.a verb\/lib_verb.a \/tools\/newmotif\/lib\/libMrm.a \/tools\/newmotif\/lib\/libXm.a -L\/tools\/X11R5\/lib -lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lX11  -lL -lm -lXext \ncXm.a -lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lX11 -lL -lm -lXext -L\/usr\/CC\/sun4\/ -lC\nld: \/tools\/X11R5\/lib\/libXaw.sa.5.0(sharedlib.o): _vendorShellWidgetClass: multiply defined\n*** Error code 2\nmake: Fatal error: Command failed for target `xtrack'\n\nThanks FvD.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"BR> From: wpr@atlanta.dg.com (Bill Rawlins)\nBR> Newsgroups: alt.atheism\nBR> Organization: DGSID, Atlanta, GA\n\nBR>        Since you have referred to the Messiah, I assume you\nBR> are referring         to the New Testament.  Please detail\nBR> your complaints or e-mail if         you don't want to post.\nBR>  First-century Greek is well-known and        \nBR> well-understood.  Have you considered Josephus, the Jewish\nBR> Historian,         who also wrote of Jesus?  In addition,\nBR> the four gospel accounts\t\t are very much in harmony.\n\nIt is also well known that the comments in Josephus relating to Jesus were\ninserted (badly) by later editors.  As for the four gospels being in harmony\non the issue of Jesus...  You know not of what you speak.  Here are a few\ncontradictions starting with the trial and continuing through the assension.\n\n\nActs 1:18: \"Now this man (Judas) purchased a field with the reward of \niniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his \nbowels gushed out.\"\n\nMatt. 27:5-7: \"And he (Judas) cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, \nand departed, and went and hanged himself.  And the chief priests...bought \nwith them the potter's field.\"\n\n\nBefore the cock crow - Matthew 26:34\n\nBefore the cock crow twice - Mark 14:30\n\n\nMAR 14:72  And the second time the cock crew. And Peter called to mind  the \nword  that  Jesus  said unto him, Before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny\nme thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept.\n\nMAT 26:74  Then began he to curse and to swear,  saying,  I  know not the man.\nAnd immediately the cock crew.\nMAT 26:75  And Peter remembered the word  of  Jesus,  which  said unto him,\nBefore the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept\nbitterly.\n\nLUK 22:60  And Peter said, Man, I know not what thou sayest.  And immediately,\nwhile he yet spake, the cock crew.\nLUK 22:61  And the Lord turned, and looked upon Peter. And  Peter remembered\nthe word of the Lord, how he had said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou\nshalt deny me thrice.\n\nJOH 13:38  Jesus answered him, Wilt thou lay down thy life for my sake? \nVerily,\n verily, I say unto thee, The cock shall not crow, still thou hast denied me\nthrice.\n\nJOH 18:27  Peter then denied  again:  and  immediately  the  cock crew.\n\n\n(This is interesting because Matthew quotes a prophesy that was never made! \nNot the only time he does this either...)\n\nMAT 27:9  Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy  the prophet, \nsaying,  And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was\nvalued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;\n\nzechariah 11:11-13\n(nothing in Jeremiah remotely like)\n\nWhat was the color of the robe placed on Jesus during his trial?\n\nscarlet - Matthew 27:28\n\npurple John 19:2\n\n\nMark says the third hour, or 9 a.m., but John says the sixth hour (noon) was\nwhen the sentence was passed.\n\n\nMatthew  --  This is Jesus the king of the Jews\nMark\t --  The King of the Jews\nLuke\t --  This is the king of the Jews\nJohn\t --  Jesus of Nazareth the king of the Jews\n\n\nvinegar - Matthew 27:34\n\nwine with myrrh - Mark 15:23\n\n\nMatthew said many stood far off, including Mary Magdaline, Mary the mother of\nJames, and the mother of Zebedee's children.  Mark and Luke speak of many far\noff, and Mark includes Mary Magdeline and Mary the mother of James the less.\nJohn says that Jesus's mother stood at the cross, along with her sister and\nMary Magdalene.\n\n\nMatt.27:46,50: \"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, \nsaying, \"Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?\" that is to say, \"My God, my God, why\nhast thou forsaken me?\"  ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice,\nyielded u the ghost.\"\n\nLuke23:46: \"And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, \"Father, unto\n thy hands I commend my spirit:\" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.\"\n\nJohn19:30: \"When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, \"It is \nfinished:\" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.\"\n\n\nMatthew says that the veil of the temple was rent, that there was an\nearthquake, and that it was dark from the sixth to the ninth hour, that graves\nopened and bodies of the saints arose and went into Jeruselem, appearing to\nmany (beating Jesus to the resurection). Mark and Luke speak of darkness and\nthe veil of the temple being rent but mention no earthquake or risen saints. \nJohn is the only one who mentions Jesus's side being peirced.\n\n\nMatthew says the Jews asked Pilate for a guard to prevent the body from being\nstolen by the disciples, and for the tomb to be sealed. All of this was\nsupposedly done, but the other gospels do not mention these precautions.\n\nDepends where you look; Matthew 12:40 gives Jesus prophesying that he will\nspend \"three days and three nights in the heart of the earth\", and Mark 10:34\nhas \"after three days (meta treis emeras) he will rise again\". As far as I can\nsee from a quick look, the prophecies have \"after three days\", but the\npost-resurrection narratives have \"on the third day\".\n\n\nMatthew says Sunday at dawn, Mark says the sun was rising, and John says it\nwas dark.\n\n\nMAT 28:1  In the end of the sabbath, as it began to  dawn  toward the first\nday of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.\n\nMAR 16:1  And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the  mother \nof  James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and\nanoint him.\n\nJOH 20:1  The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene  early, when  it \nwas  yet  dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the\nsepulchre.\n\n\nMAT 28:2  And, behold, there was  a  great  earthquake:  for  the angel of the\nLord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door,\nand sat upon it.\nMAT 28:3  His countenance was like  lightning,  and  his  raiment white as\nsnow: MAT 28:4  And for fear of him the keepers did shake,  and  became as\ndead men. MAT 28:5  And the angel answered and said unto  the  women,  Fear\nnot ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.\n\nMAR 16:5  And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a  young  man sitting  on \nthe right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.\n\nLUK 24:4  And it came  to  pass,  as  they  were  much  perplexed thereabout,\nbehold, two men stood by them in shining garments:\n\nJOH 20:12  And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at  the head,  and \nthe  other  at  the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.\n\n\nMatthew says the guard was paid to tell this story, but no other gospel makes\nthis claim.\n\n\nMatthew says an angel at the tomb told the two Marys and that Jesus also told\nthem, to tell the disciples to meet him in Galilee.  The disciples then went\nto a mountain previously agreed opon, and met Jesus there.  This was his only\nappearance, except to the women at the tomb.  Matthew only devotes five verses\nto the visit with the disciples.\n\nMark says that Jesus walked with two of the disciples in the country, and that\nthey told the rest of the disciples, who refused to believe.  Later he\nappeared to the 11 disciples at mealtime.\n\nLuke says two followers went, the same day that Jesus rose from the dead, to\nEmmaus, a village eight miles from Jeruselem, and there Jesus jioned them but\nwas unrecognised.  While they ate a meal together that evening, they finally\nrecognised Jesus, whereopon he dissapeared.  Returning at once to Jeruselem,\nthey told the\ndisciples of their experience, and suddenly Jesus appeared among them,\nfrightening them, as they thought he was a spirit.  Jesus then ate some fish\nand honey and then preached to them.\n\nJohn says Jesus appeared to the disciples the evening of the day he arrose, in\nJeruselem, where they were hiding.  He breathed the Holy Ghost opon them, but\nThomas was not present and refused to believe. Eight days later Jesus joined\nthe disciples again at the same place and this time he convinced Thomas.\tOnce\nmore Jesus made an\nappearance to the disciples at the sea of Tiberias but again was not\nrecognised.\n After telling them to cast their netson the other side of the boat, Jesus\nbecomes known to them and prepares bread and fish for them.  They all eat\ntogether and converse.\n\nThe book of acts further adds to the confusion.  It says that Jesus showed\nhimself to the apostles for a period of 40 days after his resurection (thus\ncontradicting Matthew, Mark, Luke AND John) and spoke to them of things\npertaining to the kingdom of God: \"And when he had spoken these things, while\nthey beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud recieved him out of their sight. \nAnd while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as he went up, two men stood\nby them in white apparel: Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye\ngazing into heaven? This same Jesus, which is taken from you into heaven,\nshall so comein like manneras ye have seen him go into heaven\" Acts 1:3-11\n\nPaul outdoes every other \"authority\" by saying that Jesus was seen by 500\npersons between the time of the resurection and the\nassension, although he does not say where.\tHe also claims that he himself \"as\none born out of due time\" also saw Jesus. 1 Cor 15:6-8.\n\n\nMatthew says nothing about it.\tMark casually says that Jesus was recieved into\nheaven after he was finished talking with the\ndisciples in Jeruselem.  Luke says Jesus led the desciples to Bethany and that\nwhile he blessed them, he was parted from them and carried up into heaven. \nJohn says nothing about it.  Acts\ncontradicts all of the above.  (See previous section)\n\n\nMAT 24:34  Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all\nthese things be fulfilled.\n\nMAR 13:30  Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall  not pass, till\nall these things be done.\n\nLUK 21:32  Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not  pass away, till\nall be fulfilled.\n\n1 thessalonians 4:15-18\n\n1 Corinthians 15:5 (12)\nMatthew 27:3-5 (minus one from 12)\nActs 1:9-26 (Mathias not elected until after resurrection)\nMAT 28:16  Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain\nwhere Jesus had appointed them.\n\n\t\"And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.\" (2 Kings 2:11)\n\n\t\"No man hath ascended up to heaven but he that came down from heaven, \t...\nthe Son of Man.\" (John 3:13)\n\nAs you can see, there are a number of contradictions in the account of the\ntrial, crucifiction and resurection of Jesus.  If these are good witnesses,\nyou would think that they could get SOME of these important details right! \n(In fact, I cannot find very many points on where they AGREE.  You would think\nthat they could at least agree on some of the points they were supposedly\nobserving!) Because of the fact that there is so much contradiction and error,\nthe story of the resurection as presented cannot be taken as literal truth.\n(Due to the nature of the story, I doubt if it should be taken as ANY sort of\ntruth.)","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Overall (career)\n1.\tDon Mattingly\n2.\tDon Mattingly\n3.\tDon Mattingly\n4.\tDon Mattingly\n5.\tDon Mattingly\n6.\tDon Mattingly\n7.\tDon Mattingly\n8.\tDon Mattingly\n9.\tDon Mattingly\n10.\tDon Mattingly\n11.\tDon Mattingly\n.\n.\n.\n.\n.\n.\n.\n.\n50.\tDon Mattingly\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"The burden of proof rests upon those who claim the existence\nof this \"syndrome\".  To date, these claims are unsubstantiated\nby any available data.  Hopefully, as a scientist, you would\ntake issue with anyone overstating their conclusions based\nupon their data.\n\nGee, I have many interesting and enlightening anecdotes about\nmyself, my friends, and my family, but in the practice of\nmedicine I expect and demand more rigorous rationales for\nbasing therapy than \"Aunt Susie's brother-in-law ...\".\n\nAnecdotal evidence may provide inspiration for a hypothesis,\nbut rarely proves anything in a positive sense.  And unlike\nmathematics, boolean logic rarely applies directly to medical\nissues, and so evidence of 'exceptions' does not usually\ndisprove but rather modifies current concepts of disease.\n\nI would characterize it not as 'abject disbelief' but rather \n'scientific outrage over vastly overstated conclusions'.\n\nI have no problem with such an approach; but this is NOT what\nis happening in the 'trenches' of this diagnosis.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\tThink video.  Brooktree sells a whole line of DACs that can\n\tbe used, normally for graphics applications, in either 50 or\n\t75 ohm systems.  For example, the BT468 can be had in speeds\n\tup to about 200 mHz, BT492 to 360 mHz, and 400 mHz with the\n\tBT109.  \n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"i want to do something like this:\n\n  date | xcb -s 0 | xcutsel\n\nto get the output of the date command put into the XPRIMARY selection.\nunfortunately, xcutsel is an interactive little bugger and there isn't a\ncommand argument to tell it to just do it and not put up its little\nwindow.  so, is there some other command that i CAN use like this?  or,\nis there an analog to xcb that will put stuff in XPRIMARY instead of cut\nbuffer 0?\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nIt may be a good way to catch a cold.  It's easy to pick up cold\nviruses on your fingers, either from touching a contaminated surface,\nor by shaking hands with someone that has a cold.  Then putting your\nfingers in your nose will transfer the viruses to your nose.\n\n\n--\nSteven Litvintchouk\nMITRE Corporation\n202 Burlington Road\nBedford, MA  01730-1420","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Don't find out if she has to pee by scaring it out of her.\n\nDon't armorall the seat just before her first ride even if you think\nyou will need its urine-proofing qualities.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I'm told that VRrend386 is available on the internet. I wanted to know where it is.\n\nThanks in advance.\n\nRaoul","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"   \n      This is a 1950s idea.  Supposedly, splicing in a frame of \"Buy\npopcorn\" upped popcorn sales in a movie theatre.  Big flap at the time.\nCongress involved.  Talk of making it illegal.  General agreement by\nnetworks not to do it.\n\n      A few years ago, some junior person at an advertising agency\nre-invented subliminal projection and one commercial went out on tape\nwith single-frame messages.  It aired on a few stations, but a tech\nat one station, previewing the tape, noticed a flicker and looked at\nthe tape frame-by-frame to find the \"defect\".  Big flap.  FCC notified.\nCommercial pulled.  Press reports. Embarassed ad agency.  You could\nprobably find the press reports via Dialog or Nexis if you wanted.\n\n      Now that everybody has VCRs, it's not likely that anybody could\nget away with this on TV.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"   Analog SF magazine did an article on a similar subject quite a few\nyears ago.  The question was, if an alien spacecraft landed in\nWashington, D.C., what was the proper organization to deal with it: The\nState Department (alien ambassadors), the Defense Department (alien\ninvaders), the Immigration and Naturalization Service (illegal aliens),\nthe Department of the Interior (new non-human species), etc.  It was\nvery much a question of our perception of the aliens, not of anything\nintrinsic in their nature.  The bibliography for the article cited a\nphilosophical paper (the name and author of which I sadly forget; I\nbelieve the author was Italian) on what constitutes a legal and\/or moral\nperson, i.e., a being entitled to the rights normally accorded to a\nperson.  The paper was quite interesting, as I recall.\n\n   I think you'd have to be very careful here if the answer is yes.  The\nhuman track record on helping those poor underpriveleged cultures (does\nunderpriveleged mean not having enough priveleges?) is terrible.  The\nusual result is the destruction or radical reorganization of the\nculture.  This may not always be wrong, but that's the way to bet.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nOne possible reason is that file' is made with sassafras leaves, while root\nbeer was made with sassafras bark or root bark.  The leaves contain either\nno\nor less saffrole than the bark.\n\nThere is also some sort of treatment which putatively removes saffrole from\nsassafras products.  I have some concentrated sassafras tea extract which\nis\nclaimed to have the saffrole removed.\n\n\nWell, the last time that I went to the store to buy sassafras bark to make \nroot beer, there was a sign saying that it wasn't sold for human\nconsumption.\nAlso, when I asked the person if they had wild cherry bark and wintergreen\nbark,\nshe made a point of telling me that I couldn't buy sassafras for human \nconsumption.\n\nI find the fact that some people reckless enough to step into an automobile\nlive\nin fear of dropping dead because of a pork rib quite funny, in a sick way.\n\nEric Pepke                                     INTERNET:\npepke@gw.scri.fsu.edu\nSupercomputer Computations Research Institute  MFENET:   pepke@fsu\nFlorida State University                       SPAN:     scri::pepke\nTallahassee, FL 32306-4052                     BITNET:   pepke@fsu","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Hi\nCould someone please send me enough info to talk to a MK3801? It's some\nkind of multifunction peripheral chip made by Mostek I believe. Any help\nwould be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks in advance\n\nDave\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"From article <pdb059-220493112512@kilimanjaro.jpl.nasa.gov>, by pdb059@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov (Paul Bartholomew):\n\n#> A very well put together post. I disagree with several key points, but the\n#> post is an excellent one with which to \"engage in discourse\":\n\nI agree wholeheartedly.  Paul, you have handled this so well,\nI think that you could write ballot materials.\n\n\nNo, don't stop!\n\n#> Right to Equal Opportunity (lets call it REO) involves coercion in all cases\n#> (by definition).\n\n\nGood question.  It just depends.  How's that for an answer?  :-)\nSeriously, I believe that it depends on wether or not you are\ntalking about a governmental employer or not.  In this case, I\nbelieve that there should be absolutely no discrimination,\ndirect or indirect, period.  I feel this way not because it would\noffend my moral sensibilities (which it of course would), but\nbecause the government is a coercive entity which we cannot\nescape.  It boggles my mind that in my lifetime, there were\n\"whites only\" drinking fountains in some parks, but no fountains\nfor others, yet the taxes garnished to support those fountains\ncertainly were not applied to \"whites only.\"  In essence, we\ncannot escape the coercive state.  Even Randy Weavers have to pay\nproperty tax.  On the other hand, private employers are not a\nmonopoly, and their businesses should be run by them, and not by\nthe government, unless they elect to turn their affairs over to\nthat government.\n\n#> Why? Says who? Why can mom & pop have FOA, but IBM be forced, and force is\n#> the correct word here, to have REO?\n\n\nBut if the mom & pop store is affected by who they hire,\nisn't IBM?  There is a slippery slope here.  In Santa Cruz\n(where a number of loony anti-discrimination laws exist),\na guy sued a restaurant for not hiring him because he had\nevery imaginable kitchen utensil dangling from his earlobe,\nand his tatoos were very distracting.\n\n#> Suddenly, by arm waving, by magic, a landlord does not have FOA. And on\n#> what basis does the FOA of the landlord \"disappear\"?\n\n#> It seems that vague terms like \"no contact with tenants\" suffice.\n\n\nI have a lot of interaction (all positive) with my tenants,\nso I guess that that isn't an issue.  But say I were to buy\na unit in another town, and have it managed by a third party.\nLet's say that I have a real aversion to Christians because\nof the stuff that they buy into hook line and sinker, and\nbecause of the lunatic schmucks that they try to get elected.\nI don't want any of those fish symbols hanging in the window\nof a house that I own.  Should the government intervene?  If\nI was Elie Weizel and the only rental applicant was Tom\nMetzger, should I be forced to rent this distant unit to him?\n\n#> The companies on the Fortune 500, for example, are all privately owned. They\n#> can give you a list of all of their owners. They have no \"anonymous\",\n#> unknown to them, owners.\n\n\nYes, and the neat thing about this is that unlike the mom &\npop store, you and I can buy shares in IBM, and have influence\nover their decision making policies if we don't like them.\n\nAnyway, Paul, keep up the good work.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nGranted it's nothing to loose sleep over, but this is Ethernet's tragic flaw:\nthe more activity (especially lots of tiny activity), the more collisions\nhappen and the performance gets exponentially worse...  I am just now\nopposing ANY kind of waste of bandwidth under Ethernet.  Although in a polling\nsystem it would not be so bad.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nThis all would also implicate that in order for the sinning 2 month\nold baby to get forgivance, he or she has to ask for help from Jesus.\nSomehow I find this a little bit amuzing.\n\nCheers,\nKent","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\"Petroleum naphtha,\" available at most hardware stores, will remove most\nadhesives.\n\n--","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\nNow just wait one cotton picking minute here.... DoD rule 417.1.2 section 6\nparagraph 3 clearly indicates that multiple people can't lay claim to a bike\nin an \"obvious\" ploy to \"artificially\" increase the size of their stable...\n\nSo the question of the day is... Is Spike owned by a lady of true class and\nbreeding (my definition: any woman who rides :-) ) or by Tom the harely head???\nI also note that you lay no claim to Connie or Ol Sport. (Like I said, \nobviously a lady of discriminating taste...)\n\nBored minds wanta know.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nI have been having problems with a slightly different clutch problem on\nmy 90 Prelude. See rec.autos.tech for more detail. My problem is a false\nengagement point below the actual one. It also seems affected by weather -\nit is most noticeable (and annoying) on damp or cold days. My dealer says\nhe can't reproduce the problem - I think I'll just sell the car.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I've started getting a message from Windows 3.1 whenever I try to execute\na DOS program from Windows, either thru the Program Manager or the File\nManager. A message box comes up and says \"This program or one of its\ncomponents is compressed. Use the MS-DOS expand command to expand the\nfile.\"\n\nNow, I know this is bogus, because I can always execute the program\nfrom DOS when not running windows. The program in question is COMMAND.COM\n(yup, the basic DOS command line shell...) And, the expand command tells\nme that the file is already expanded.\n\nAll my windows apps work just fine - I only get this message when trying\nto execute a DOS program from Windows.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Since 1979, the members of the European Parliament (the parliamentary assemby\nof the European Community) have been elected directly by the citizens of the\nMember States. Before, the Members of the European Parliament (MEPs) were just\nMembers of National Parliaments (MNPs) elected by and from among their peers.\n\nIn the European Parliament, every Member State has a fixed number of seats,\nwhich increases less than proportionally with the population. Once in five\nyears, a general European election is being held, in which the citizens of all\nMember States choose their representatives to the European Parliament. Next\nelections are due in 1994.\n\nNow the voting system for these European elections still differs from one\ncountry to another. Although the European Treaty enabling the direct election\nof the MEPs requires a uniform voting system, up to now every country has just\nused its own system, more or less the same one used for national elections.\nBritish MEPs are elected in a first-past-the-post system with one MEP per\ndistrict; nearly all other States have chosen a system with proportional\nrepresentation. But then in some countries (France, Italy) MEPs are allowed to\nbe a MNP as well, whilst in others they are not (Belgium, Netherlands).\n\nThe European Parliament is now working on a uniform election system for its\nown members, so that every candidate should have the same regulations to\ncomply with, regardless of the Member State (s)he wants to be elected for. I\nwould like to know what you people out there think of the following questions:\n\n1. Do you think it is necessary to have uniform regulations or should every\nMember State continue to use its own regulations (for European elections that\nis)?\n\n2. Do you think a system of majority voting should be implemented, with one or\nmore MEPs per district, or would you prefer a system with proportional\nrepresentation (for the whole of the Community or per state, per region, per\ndistrict?).\n\n3. Do you think the European Commission (or just its president) should be\ndirectly elected too, or should it be appointed by the European Parliament, or\nby the joint Member State governments as it is now?\n\n4. The Maastricht Treaty allows subjects of Member States to stand for\nelection in another Member State they are residing in. Do you think you would\nor could vote for a foreigner if his\/her ideas appeal to you?\n\n5. Do you think MEPs should be allowed to be a member of a national parliament\nor a regional parliament too? Or a member of a national or regional government\nbody?\n\n6. The European Parliament now has meetings in both Strasbourg and Brussels.\nMEPs themselves are for a complete move to Brussels in great majority, but\npolitical compromises between the governments of the Member States stick to\nthe status quo. Do you approve of this or do you think the European Parliament\nshould meet in one city only, and if yes, which?\n\nPlease post your answers to eunet.politics, to which all followups are\nautomatically directed. If you do not have access to that group, please mail\nyour answer directly to me and I will post it for you.\n\nI hope many of you will take the time to post their views on this matter.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"The title says all.\n\n(not IBM brand)","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Is it going to be possible to upgrade a C610 to Tempest?\nIf so, how...motherboard switch?  \nProbably gonna be expensive right?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"    >I guess that you are a person who dislikes contact with\n    >people of ethnic minority. However, your argument again falls\n    >flat on its face. You state that you, under an\n    >anti-discrimination bill, would be forced to associate with\n    >others [homosexuals, I assume] against your will. How do you\n    >know that you do not associate with them now, except they may\n    >be closeted? Would you like to change your argument to read\n    >\"forced to associate with truthfully homosexual people\n    >against my will\"? You have no proof that anyone you now know\n    >may not be homosexual and this punches a large hole in your\n    >argument. Is it your belief that a homosexual comes in only\n    >one flavour (sic) and that is the camp mincing type? Prove\n    >it. You cannot.\n\nYou are quite incoherent. Perhaps YOU should be forced to associate with\nsome people against YOUR will. I think a nice large group of skinheads\nin a locked basement for 12 hours will wonderfully educate you.\n\nAfter all, as you don't believe in Freedom Of Asscoiation, you can't\ncomplain can you.\n\nBloody turdlet ...\n\n\n-- \nThere are actually people that STILL believe Love Canal was some kind of\nenvironmental disaster. Weird, eh?","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nSurely it was intended as wit.\n\nBy the way, which \"atheist cause\" were you referring to, Bill?\n\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"greetings..\nI'm a novice in messing comp. hardware.\nMy original IDE HD is a 42MB Western Digital which came with the system\nwhen I bought it. And I just got a 213MB IDE HD Maxtor that I wanted to\nadd as a slave drive. I did change the jumper settings on 213A Maxtor to\nconfigure it as slave drv, but I didn't change anything on my 42M Western\nDig, since I didn't have any doc. on it. And as I predicted, It just beeped\nand gave me an error message about HDD controller.\nSo, I had to take my 42M off & install my 213A to be my only HD.\n \nany help on this matter would be much appreciated.\n(before I trashed my 42MB)\n \nThankx much","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"The tongue that brings healing is a\n\ttree of life,\n\tbut a deceitful tongue crushes the\n\tspirit.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nI received my Graphite VL on Thursday, and I've had a little bit of \nexperience with it now.  In general, it feels *FAST*, although this\nis the first VLB card that I have tried.  Still, the results are \nimpressive.\n\nWith my 486DX2\/66 w\/16 MB, running at 1024x768\/256, I've had the following\nWinTach 1.0 results:\n\n\nCard\t\t\t\tWP\tCAD\tSpread\tPaint\tOverall\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------\nATI Graphics Ultra\t\t13.5\t14.5\t19.1\t25.0\t18.0\nATI Ultra+ (no aperture)\t11.2\t13.8\t10.7\t20.9\t14.1\nHercules Graphite VL\t\t16.1\t67.8\t41.4\t52.8\t44.5\n\nUnfortunately I don't have the numbers here, but the ATI Ultra Pro VLB\nhad an overall WinTach score of about 26.  The Ultra Pro was nearly as\nfast in text handling, but was blown away in the CAD and Paint tests.\n\nAs an additional test, we hand-timed a complex CorelDraw! slide resize\/-\nredraw times.  There was no swapping, but I'd expect there is a fairly\nheavy load on the CPU.  The Graphite redraw times averaged about 10.2\nseconds, with ATI Ultra Pro at 12.0.  This jives with Steve Gibson's\ncontention that the ISA Graphite is faster than an ATI UP on his complex\nMicrografx Draw document.\n\nSo far, I'm *very* impressed.  The drivers look solid, and the card flies.\nThe installation and utilities are different, but comparable to ATI's.  And\nI didn't have to wait for Build 59 for some reliability...  With Hercules'\nsoftware developer special, you can get an evaluation copy of the card for\njust $225 (or $200 for the ISA version).  Call 800-532-0600 if you want to\ngive it a try -- I'm a happy customer now!\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"                                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\n\nI dont think you're correct here. There have been no reports of the Bosnians\nMuslims supporting the Nazis in their genocide against the Serbians. The fact is\nthat the Croat govt. using their secret police (called the Ustache, I think)\nwere the prime agents of the Nazis in Yugoslavia against the Serbs.\n \n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nOh dear, time for me to try to remember my chemistry.  Let's see if I\ncan find the formulae somewhere in the dim recesses of my mind.\n<sounds of gears>  <fumes of overheated oil>  <unmistakable stench of\nthe Nasal Chromatograph>   Ha!  I knew there was a double bond!  Now\nhow shall I show that in ASCII? \n\n          MEK:                                 Acetone:\n\n          C - C - C - C                        C - C - C\n              #                                    #\n              O                                    O\n\nThe hydrogens are not shown, and # represents double bond.  MEK has a\nmethyl (CH3) on one side, and an ethyl (C2H5) on the other.  Acetone\nhas two methyls.  So acetone is not methyl ethyl ketone, but instead\nis dimethyl ketone.  Both solvents have similar properties.  I think\nthat MEK may be a little less flammable but a lot worse to breathe.\nIt's a lot harder to buy MEK than it once was.  Use acetone.\n\nNail polish remover consists almost entirely of acetone.  If you buy\nsome for your workshop, get the very cheapest, because the more\nexpensive kind has oils and perfumes that you don't need.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nWhen I see this happening to other players, I'll post a public apology to\nMr. Hirschbeck.  Until then, I think this was a case of \"selective\nenforcement.\"\n-- \nDale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nUniden makes an all in one unit (X, K, Ka, Laser) for about $130.\nColorado Radar sells passive radar jammers, the passive supposedly being legal,\nfor about $100. wont help you with Laser however.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nCandida can do that to you. :-)  Gordon, I think that the best clinical \ntrial for candida blooms would involve giving women with chronic vaginal \ncandida blooms L. Acidophilus orally and see it it can decrease the \nfrequency and extent of candida blooms in the vagina since most of the \ncandida seems to be migrating in from the anal region and L. acidophilus \nshould be able keep the candida in check if it can make it through the \nintestinal tract and colonize in the anus where it will have access to \noxygen(just like it does in the vagina).  As much stuff as there is in the \nlay press about L. acidophilus and vaginal yeast infections, I'm really \namazed that someone has not done a clinical trial yet to check it out.\n\n\nThe calcium and kidney stone story is not a good reason to throw all \nconventional wisdom out the window.  Where would medicine be if \nconventional wisdom had not been used to develop many of the standard \nmedical practices that could not be confirmed through clinical trials?\nThe clinical trial is a very new arrival on the medical scene(and a very \nimportant one).  The lack of proof that reinnoculation with good bacteria \nafter antibiotic use is important to the health of a patient is no reason \nto dismiss it out-of-hand, especially if reinnoculation can be done cleaply \nand safely(like it is in animal husbandry).","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nBeen messin roun progman.ini have ye?  I'm gessing you've been \"tuning\"\nthe system, that's the only way I can remember getting a blank screen\nfrom CTRL-ESC.... when one of the PROGMAN.INI parameters was twinked to\n0 or 3, can't remember.  I've never seen Win 3 do something like that on \nher own, Captain.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"what about\n\nqrttoppm < file.dis | ppmtotga > file.tga\n\n??\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nI copy relevant articles like this and post'em on local BBSes.  Not\neveryone has newsgroup access.  ;-)\n\n-Kelley-\n-- \n-----------------------------------------------------------------\nThomas Kelley Boylan, PowerPC, IBM Austin, kelleyb@austin.ibm.com","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nBUTT, BUTT, THEN YU W0NT BE ABLE T0 $EE THE CAR$ $NEAK!G UP BEHIND YU AND\nP0P A WHHHEEEEELLLLEEEEE T0 D!TCHUM AND THE CHICK$ DIG IT!\n\nSeriously, though, putting a helmet on a mirror is inadvisable because\nyou are then resting the weight of the helmet on the fragile foam\nliner that is expected to cushion your noggin.  And once crushed, that\nfoam never pops back.\n\nA variation of mirror hanging thing is what I do; with the bike on the\nsidestand (hey, the centerstand is for maintenance) I turn the wheel to\nthe stop (left) and can hang the helmet by the chin-bar on the right\ngrip.  There is no crushable foam in the chin-bar, and it is pretty\nsecure on there (as long as the forks are locked).  If I have to leave\nthe helmet with the parked bike (and the bags aren't on\/full), that is\nabout the most stable place.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nYes, these last couple of months the Kinngs have failed to show up in about\none game in five. Presumably last night was that one game in five. ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"please subscribe me.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nFood products can get through breast milk and cause allergies in the\nyoung.  Since the son is allergic it would be best not to go to\nbottle feedings, but rather eliminate foods from mother's diet.  Your\npediatrician should be able to give you a list of foods to avoid.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nFor flexibility. Anyway, what you say is not really true. The color information\nis associated with a GraphicsContext, not with a display, and the GC _IS_\na parameter to the drawing routines.\n\nSo, if you need to fast switch between green dotted lines and blue ones of\nwidth 2, you can make 2 GCs for those cases and then simply do\n\nXDrawLine(dpy,win,gc_red,x1,y1,x2,y2);\nXDrawLine(dpy,win,gc_blue,x3,y3,x4,y4);\n\nfor this effect.\n\nThis is eventually more complicated to do for the programmer, but also much\nmore efficient and flexible. You would not include all the other parameters\nlike line pattern, with, cap and joinstyle, drawmode and so on in every\ndrawing call, so why do it for color ? BTW, stay away from XDrawPoint()\nif you don't really need it (to draw RANDOM points), for image transfers\nthere are Image routines.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nI believe it's legal to send DES code or equipment from the US to Canada\nwith no export license.  I think this is the only place you can do this - all\nother countries require a license.\n\nAs an aside, I've always thought it should be legal to send DES software\nanywhere, if you follow these rules:\n\n   1.  Encrypt your DES software with DES.\n   2.  Send the encrypted software to the recipient.\n   3.  Send the key to the recipient.\n\nThe only way the person on the other end can use your DES software is if\nhe\/she already *has* DES available - otherwise, they can't decrypt your\nprogram, and it is useless.  If you've guaranteed they already have DES,\nhave you really violated any law by sending it to them in the form of\nyour program??  I'm sure it's still illegal, but it seems like a good idea...","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I need to know where I can get a FAQ on Xwindows for MS-DOS machines.\nThe usual FAQ just gave me a name of a file called XServers-NonUNIX.txt.Z.\nwhich I cannot find anywhere.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Hi everybody ...\n\nWell I don't know if this is a known problem\nto you in the big state but over here in Europe\nit is in some places ...\nIt just happened to me and I payed A LOT to get my \nnew Honda Civic repaired.\nA marten choose my car to stay one night in and this\ndamn little animal damaged almost everything which\nwas plastic\/rubber ..\nI never thought that these little #@%##@ could do that\nmuch damage.\n\nSo to ALL you car owners out there :\n\nIs there a GOOD known method of gettin' rid of  this animal ???\nexcept for waiting all night long beneath my car with a gun ???\n\nHELP IN ANY FORM WOULD BE APPRECIATED VERY VERY MUCH !!!!\n\n\n\ne-mail: scheer@faw.uni-ulm.de\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"   We don't disagree on this.  All I said was that a right is whatever\nyou or somebody acting for you can enforce.  The Bill of Rights didn't\ncome into effect until it was ratified by the states (and indirectly,\nthe people); from that point it defined legal rights.  \"Common law\"\nrights are vague and situational; that's why the people insisted on a\nBill of Rights in the Constitution, spelling out exactly what they\ndemanded from the government.  Legitimate or illegitimate, power is\npower.  That's why the federal government can force states to grant\ntheir citizens rights they don't wish to: In a slugging match, the feds\nwin.  Period.\n\n   And you're right, this doesn't belong in sci.space.  I've said my\npeace.  No more frome me on rights (at least not here).\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"<>In this giant bally-ho over this Clipper chip I noticed a rather\n<>disturbing trend in some of the E-mail and posts I've tossing back and\n<>forth.  \n<> [ ... deleted ... ]\n<A circut court judge in Illinois once said \"When dealing with a government\n<that seeks continually new and more creative ways to spy on its' citizenry,\n<one cannot discourage the move to empower the common citizen with the means\n<to parry this attack on personal privacy.\"\n<\n<(Unfortunately the comment was with regard to the banning of radar\n<detectors....)\n<\n<The point remains.  More and more I see the government slowly washing\n<away privacy.  Even unwittingly.  Do you think I will ever live in a\n<soceity that issues smart cards to citizens at birth?  Do you think I\n<will live in a soceity that insists I register my crypto keys so they\n<can keep track of what I'm saying?  Even if there is no evidence of my\n<guilt?  Do you think I will ever live in a soceity that seeks to meddle\n<in the affairs of its' citizenry without recourse of any kind?  I'm tired\n<of it.  There is (IMHO) no compromise with an administration that seeks\n<to implement these proposals under the guise of enhancing privacy.\n<\n<More than the proposals themselves, I read the language of the press\n<releases, the obvious deception involved in presenting these pieces to\n<the public, and I am sickened.  I am revolted.  I am repulsed.\n<\n<90%, perhaps even 95% of this country could care less about the\n<clipper chip, the wiretap bill, the smart card, because they are so\n<entrapped in the rhetoric of the Clinton Administration.\n\nThe problem is, the people are not having the scope, or implicataions\npointed out to them.  Hell, most haven't even heard of Clipper, and\nwhen they do, it will be in soothing language telling everyone how\nnice the government is at 'letting them have' privacy.\n\nHow come the media is not telling about the provisions of the Clipper\ndecision?  The provisions of the Crime Bill?  The abuses of Civil Forfeiture?\nThe government uses polls to support 75 percent of the people want\ngun bans, etc., yet the same pollsters have determined (according to\nthe media) that 30 percent of the people are unaware of what the Holocaust\nis...\n\nThe people cannot be expected to give decent decisions when they are\ndenied the information that all these abuses and whittling away of\nrights are going on quietly.  When they find out (when it hits them),\nit will be too late.  One cannot expect each citizen to spend all their\ntime probing, searching, researching, etc.   For example, how big a\npercentage of the average population even has access to USENET?  Way\nless than 1 percent, I bet.   How many outside of Internet\/USENET\nare even AWARE of what Big Brother is doing, or have been exposed to\narguments of both sides of the issue?\n\nWhat the public will get is only ONE side:  The Government's side.\n\nTHAT is scary.\n\n<\n<This saddens and frightens me.\n<\n<I am a conserveative believe it or not.  A law and order conserveative.\n<But the move to a centralized authoratarian regime really scares me,\n<mostly because I know you cant go far wrong underestimating the\n<intelligence of the American people.  Tell them it's going to keep\n<them safe from drug dealers and terrorists, and they will let you\n<put cameras in their home.\n\nHow can the bulk of the people be informed, when the media refuses to\ndo it?\n\n<Even in the wake of Waco, you find those who support the increasingly\n<totalatarian moves.\n<\n<>Somebody once said something like: \"Armed Violence is meant only to be\n<>used in response to an armed attack.  It is not meant to be used in\n<>agression.  This is the difference between self-defence and murder.\"\n<\n<To be quite honest, the way things are going, I'd call it self defense.\n<\n<>Let's try to avoid killing things, eh?  There's enough blood shed in the\n<>world, without adding a couple of riots, Civil Wars, etc.\n<>\n<>I'm probably overreacting.  But what I've read scared me a lot.  I don't\n<>want my children growing up in a War Zone.\n<\n<\n<And I dont want mine growning up in the eyes of a security camera\n<24 hours a day.\n\nThe people at large need to be informed.  BUT HOW?   I am but one person.\nI try to talk to everyone that will listen, but I can hardly make any\nkind of dent.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\tHave the feds shut down the people making Sound Blaster? What\nabout Apple and NeXT? Apple, NeXT, Sun, and others make systems that\ncan handle CD-quality audio in and out, and can perform arbitrary\ntransformation on it in the process of transmitting it across a network\nor modem.\n\n\tPerhaps there's a market for a portable vocoder. Not a crypto\ndevice, simply an RS232<->voice converter. Make it capable of recording\nspeech and playing it back simultaneously. It has applications for\nmultimedia, computing for the handicapped, Internet Talk Radio, IRC,\netc, etc, etc.  It wouldn't be a cryptographic device at all - but I\nsuppose someone could have it hooked to a 486 laptop with a V.32bis\nmodem and some crypto software. I'd market the thing with an API for\ntext-to-speech using simple phonemes and the ability to use speech\nsamples. And, of course, I'd publish the interface to it so other\nfolks could write any applications they wanted to talk to the thing.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I am looking for a small utility that will convert a Microsoft Video (AVI)\nfile to an Autodesk Animator Pro (FLC) file. Since AVIs also contain sound,\nit would be nice if this utility also stored the sound track as a WAV or VOC\nfile. Currently I'm accomplishing this by saving the AVI as multiple DIBs\nusing Video for Windows, then converting each DIB to a GIF, then loading the\nGIFs into Animator. For the sound, I load the original AVI into WavEdit and\nsave it as a seperate WAV file. This requires too many steps to be productive.\n\nAny help will be GREATLY appreciated.\n\n          Thanks\n             Don\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nVery well indeed.  At home (a VL Bus version of the Graphics Pro) I can stretch\nan AVI window to 640x480 and it will continue to play back smoothly.  It drops\na few more frames but on most machines even attempting such a thing would mean\none frame update every 30 seconds.  An ISA Graphics+ was able to do \"Zoom by\n2\" without any perceptible performance penalty.  It is the best performance\nI've seen so far with the possible exception of an Intel Indeo board (which\nuses overlay so it doesn't have to move the decompressed data over the ISA\nbus at any point).","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"May I suggest that any any proposed cipher system\nhaving less entropy than the user's key and message can have\nan embedded subliminal channel as big as the\ndifference in entropies between the entropy of the user\ninput (message) and the entropy of the output?\n\nFor example, take plain DES.  The unsuspecting\nuser inputs a string \"PLAINTEXT\" to be enciphered.\n\nHe cranks the algorithm which has been hacked\nby George Quisling and comes out with j*3H4902d.\n\nNine char in and nine chars out.  Right?\n\nThe unsepecting user ships the ciphertext\nto be decrpyted and the message \"PLAINTEXT\"\nis produced.  Everything fine, right?  Nope.\n\n\nImagine the algorithm did a LZ compression\non PLAINTEXT before DESing. (Compressing is\ndown to four characters with more entropy:\n\n9#wj\n\nThe opponent now pads the message with his\nown message, also compressed\n\n*3dk@\n\nbefore applying DES to the concatenated\ncompressed pairs.  When decrpyted, the\nfirst compressed message is stripped off\nand declared sent.  Unbeknowst to the\nreceiver, the opponents accomplice collects\nthe remaining message in the bit bucket and\nuncompresses to KILL NOW.\n\nAnd to prevent all such subliminal or covert\nstorage channels you would need to have \nmaximal entropy all the time -- which is\na priori impossible because (for example)\na stereotypical message might be\nreplaced by one bit in the output reserving\nthe rest of the output bits for the long\ncovert message.\n\nIn other words, if you opponent get to muck\nwith the algorithm -- you either have got to\nmuck with it LAST or concede his possible \nembedding of covert channels.\n\nIn other words, if you present a message\nto an opponet with less than maximal entropy\nthen you have given him free bits of storage.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\nMcGuyers makes a full line of polishing compounds and waxes... Read\nthe lables and pick the one that matches the marks that you see on the\npaint. Then do both you and your fiance a favor by putting a nice\nthick coat of the carnuba wax on the bike. After that those little\nscratches will just buff out.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"While I have gotten 8-9 years out of this digital receiver, it\nhas been acting VERRY strange of late.  I hope that  the following\t\nsymptoms may help someone diagnose the error:\n\n- i know that whatever lithium memory backup it had - has long died\nthus if i unplug it - it won't remember the presets\n\n- it has given up listening to the remote.  (i tried changing the remote's\nbatteries) when i try a remote function - the receiver registers that it\nreceived it (a green remote light flashes) but the right function\ndoesn't happen - if any function at all.  (also strange- when i hit \nthe \"mute\" button, for example, the display panel goes black - yikes-\t\ni've never seen that before ...)\n\n- before all the strangeness started, the system turned itself OFF and ON\nagain - by itself\n\n- sometimes it won't play a radio station, so i have to kinda twist it \n(yes kinda flex the motherboard, chasis) for it to get the radio\ntuning back - the aux in function always works however....\n\nit is inconvenient, but NOT inconvenient enough to pay an \nexpensive repair fee.  while, i'm not a hardware guy, i wonder \nif something as simple as a surge supressor will be a quick fix.\nthe strange thing is that these symptoms come and go ...\n\nsomeone told me this unit series has a bad Voltage Amp chip.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nThe idea of an apostacy did not originate with Lucy Smith or Joseph\nSmith or the Mormons.  The idea of a restoration was quite common\nin the early 19th century USA.  Alexander Campbell, founder of the\ngroup that now survives with the name \"Disciples of Christ\" preached\nthat the primitive church had been lost and was attempting to restore\nit (although not be revelations).  Many Cambellites subsequently became\nMormons, including co-founder Sidney Rigdon.  Actually, you can find\nsuch sentiments in many of the early protestants of the reformation,\nsuch as Martin Luther.\n-- \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nGordon Banks  N3JXP      | \"Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and\ngeb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu   |  it is shameful to surrender it too soon.\" ","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I always believed the statement 'those who do not know their history\nare condemned to repeat it (Will Durant ?), but I am beginning to\nbelieve the opposite is true.\n\nHere in t.p.m and in other newsgroups it seems that history is\nmainly remembered to foment hatred or to be used as a club. In the\nhistory of my own people there are ample acts of shame, both done\nby my people and done to my people. Since I was not party to any\nof those acts, I refuse to accept blame for the evil acts that my\nancestors committed, nor do I direct hatred toward the descendants\nof those who committed evil acts against my ancestors.\n\nWill all of this discussion rebuild a single mosque? Will it rebuild\nthe Temple? Somehow I doubt that it will.\n\nA post in another group, on the Bosnian war, asked us all to love\neach other, that love would conquer hate. Sadly, I remember a TV\ninterview with a young woman in Sarajevo (sp?) who was as I remember,\na former olympic calibre contestant in the rifle shoot. She was now\ntrying to pick-off Serbian snipers. During the communist years she\nhad married a Serb, who was now fighting against her people. So it\nseems that hate will conquer love.\n\nIs there an odd chance that we might all forget past wrongs and try\nand see how we might all live together? It's a damn small planet,\nwhich we have come very close to turning into a radioactive ball,\nglowing softly in space. We seem to have been spared that prospect,\nshall we now bathe it in each other's blood?\n\nShalom, Salam, and Peace","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I have just added a Panasonic KP-X1123 24pin dot matrix printer to a 386sx\/25. I installed\nthe appropriate Windows 3.1 printer driver (i.e. one specifically for this printer) but I'm\nunable to persuade the poxy thing to print correctly. \n \nWhat appears to be happening is that the TrueType fonts don't get printed properly. My\nexperiments show that all graphic images (for example a line drawing from Corel Draw) print\nok. GraphicsWorkshop for Windows happily prints GIFs etc. MS Notepad and MS Write will\nprint correctly providing the font's in the text are printer fonts. \n \nWhen I print TrueType fonts, some lines appear to be printed in the wrong order. If I change \nthe text font to a printer font, the problem is eliminated.\n \nI have tried using printer drivers for printers which the KX-P1123 (snappy name) emulates,\nnamely Epsom LQ-850 and IBM ProPrinter X24 and the same problem occurs.\n \nIf there is some kind soul who can tell me just what the hell is going on, I would be most \nchuffed.\n ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I really feel the need for a knowledgable hockey observer to explain this year's playoffs to me. I mean, the obviously superior Toronto team with the best center and the best goalie in the league keeps losing. What gives?\n\n-- \n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n         \nI stand by all the misstatements that I've made.\n\t\t-- Vice President Dan Quayle to Sam Donaldson, 8\/17\/89","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n[Discussion on Josephus inserts]\n\nThanks.  Am I correct, then, in assuming that that Josephus\ndid in fact write about Jesus, but Christian copists embellished it?","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n[BH] Tsiel,\n\n[BH] I would contend that there was shelling from both sides of the border,\n[BH] starting from the early 70's.  Certainly the PLO did shell Northern\n[BH] Israel from the Arqoub region, but Israel did much more shelling\n[BH] destroying several South Lebanese villages.  At the very least\n[BH] we can say that both sides exchanged shelling, with occasional\n[BH] aerial raids by Israel on Lebanese villages.\n[BH] In any case Steve's characterization that the 1982 invasion was only in \n[BH] response to years of shelling from Lebanon is false.  Israel had\n[BH] many reasons for invading but mainly it did so to install a government\n[BH] in Lebanon favorable to Israel, and it nearly achieved this aim\n[BH] with the election of Basheer El Gemayel, and his brother, Amin\n[BH] El Gemayel, but the internal situation in Lebanon was too hard\n[BH] to control and predict so Israel had to withdraw, and Amin El Gemayel\n[BH] had to abrogate the 17 th of May Agreement.\n\nBasil,\n\nI was only correcting Steve's statement that Geurillas were shelling Israel\nfrom the Golan, which was absurd.\nThe fact that \"Israel did much more shelling\" was in response to Palestinian\nshelling from Lebanon. Israel has no intention of keeping an inch of Lebanese\nterritory. Israel will continue to fight Hizbullah, PLO, FPLP etc. as long as\nits northern border is not quiet. If the Lebanese army can control these \nelements then I think we can see genuine peace on the Israel-Lebanese border.\nI remind you that a couple thousand Lebanese cross each day into Israel to \nwork.\nAs for the election of Bashir Gemayel, it is true that he was favorable to\nIsrael, is that why the Syrians killed him? His brother Amin was a Syrian \npuppet, if he had not been, he would have been dead by now.\n\nTsiel","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\nTry to run Xsun under truss(1).\n\n\tThe best way to do this is by logging in over the network\n\tand typing:\n\n\ttruss -t open Xsun\n\nopen(\"\/opt\/X11R5\/lib\/X11\/fonts\/misc\/fonts.dir\", O_RDONLY, 0666) = 8\nopen(\"\/opt\/X11R5\/lib\/X11\/fonts\/misc\/fonts.alias\", O_RDONLY, 0666) = 8\nopen(\"\/opt\/X11R5\/lib\/X11\/fonts\/Speedo\/fonts.dir\", O_RDONLY, 0666) = 8\nopen(\"\/opt\/X11R5\/lib\/X11\/fonts\/Speedo\/fonts.alias\", O_RDONLY, 0666) Err#2 ENOENT\nopen(\"\/opt\/X11R5\/lib\/X11\/fonts\/75dpi\/fonts.dir\", O_RDONLY, 0666) = 8\nopen(\"\/opt\/X11R5\/lib\/X11\/fonts\/75dpi\/fonts.alias\", O_RDONLY, 0666) = 8\nopen(\"\/opt\/X11R5\/lib\/X11\/fonts\/100dpi\/fonts.dir\", O_RDONLY, 0666) = 8\nopen(\"\/opt\/X11R5\/lib\/X11\/fonts\/100dpi\/fonts.alias\", O_RDONLY, 0666) = 8\nopen(\"\/opt\/X11R5\/lib\/X11\/fonts\/misc\/6x13.pcf\", O_RDONLY, 0666) = 8\nopen(\"\/opt\/X11R5\/lib\/X11\/fonts\/misc\/cursor.pcf\", O_RDONLY, 0666) = 8\n\nThis will give you and idea of where Xsun things the fonts should be.\n\nIf you have defined  a project root and done a make install, everything\nshould have gone right by default, even without symbolic links.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"The article was probably referring to changing the clock oscillator in a manner similar to that done on Quadra 700's and IIsi's. I haven't read a report of this actually being done on a Centris 610 but supposedly this also works on Q900,\nQ950 and centris 650 machines.\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
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{"text":"\n\n--\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI totally agree with your friend, since when the CPU is apparently idle\nit is still in fact churning away millions of instructions per second\n(checking for keyboard input for instance).  \n\nThe exception to this is for CPU's used in laptops, where the CPU can\nenter an idle state where it is just preserving its current status but\ndoing absolutely nothing.  In this case it needs a hardware interrupt\nto get it going again.\n\n\n--\n_____________________________________________________________________\n\nVictor Buttigieg\t\t\t\t\te-mail:\tvictor@uk.ac.man.ee.comms\n\nCommunications Research Group\n\nUniversity of Manchester\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
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{"text":"\nIt was not just those penalties. Most of all it was the penalty the referee didn't\ncall on the Czechs right before their first goal.\n\n\nDon't you think it's quite silly to call it a Nazi attitude, when some people \nthrow coins on the ice? Hey, I don't approve the behavior of these guys,\nespecially not in a WC game, but I can't see any reason for using the word 'Nazi'\nin this connection. \n  \n\nSoccer hooligans are not just a German problem (remember the world cup in Italy).\nAgain: there's a big difference between throwing coins and smashing shop-windows\nor fighting with other so-called 'fans', who come to a WC just to see if the\nDutch or the English or the Germans are the best bruisers.\nWhich other sports are you talking about? I don't think soccer is 'every possible\nsport'.\n\n\nHow many Germans do you know? Do you think 200 out of 10000 is 'most of them'? \nIf you hear about some white policemen beating a black man in the US, what do you\nthink about the Americans? 'Most of them' like beating blacks?\n\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":": \n: Why can't he record it legally?  It may not be admissable in court, but\n: recording for personal use is legal.  If he wants to play it for his ham\n: friend, that's legal too, as long as he doesn't charge admission.\n\nYeah - I goofed - a slip of the mind. I must be getting senile.\n\n... deleted ...\n\n: Hey Bill, where were you three weeks ago when all this stuff was posted\n: and dealt with?\n\nBusy posting on about 20 other groups. I get to this one about once every\nthree months or so. ","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I am looking for a VESA local bus Card.\nto control my IDE drives, Floppies, game port, parallel port, and most\nof all my serial ports.  the serial ports must have sockets for the\nUARTs and non of this intergraded chipset that generic boards have on\nthem.\n ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
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{"text":"Hello again.\n\nAnyone here done any tinting work.  What are the best brands out there?\nHow about applications...I heard there was a water based brand that s\nyou can move around, till it's just right, and you then let it dry like that.\n\nAlso I would consider having it professionally done, how much around\nWisconsin or Chcago area, that does a decent job, fairly cheap. (college kid)\n\nThanks for all the info...\n\nPs.  What is the maximum legal tint limit.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nSure thing. Here are the FIrstClass systems in those area codes:\n\nMacValley Online\t      \tBurbank, CA\t\t\t        \t(818) 840-0518\nThe Drawing Board\t     \tHacienda Heights, CA\t  (818) 965-6241\nBPS\t\t\t\t\t\t               Hollywood, CA\t\t       \t(213) 874-1919\nSanGabriel Valley MUG \t Pasadena, CA\t\t        \t(818) 790-5426\n\nAnd here is all of California (unformated, sorry):\n\nMiddle Earth\t\t\tAnaheim, CA\t\t\t\t(714) 828-9758\nByte Out of The Apple\tBenecia, CA\t\t\t\t(707) 747-0306\nPlanet BMUG\t\t\t\tBerkley, CA\t\t\t\t(510) 849-2684\nMacValley Online\t\tBurbank, CA\t\t\t\t(818) 840-0518\nGentle Rain Forum\t\tClaremont, CA\t\t\t(909) 593-6144\nCyberSpace BBS\t\t\tCulver City, CA\t\t\t(310) 568-9184\n* AllNet\t\t\t\tCupertino, CA\t\t\t(408) 736-2607\nThe Boy's Club  \t\tCupertino, CA\t\t\t(408) 261-8331\nMeme Net\t\t\t\tFresno, CA\t\t\t\t(209) 431-6363\nSierra Mouse Trap\t\tGrass Valley, CA\t\t(916) 265-9739\nThe Drawing Board\t\tHacienda Heights, CA\t(818) 965-6241\nThe Public BBS\t\t\tHalf Moon Bay, CA\t\t(415) 726-3587\nBPS\t\t\t\t\t\tHollywood, CA\t\t\t(213) 874-1919\nImagine-NET\t\t\t\tIrvine, CA\t\t\t\t(714) 660-7738\neNet\t\t\t\t\tLa Canada, CA\t\t\t(818) 952-6609\nGuerilla Symbiotics\t\tLa Verne, CA\t\t\t(909) 593-6862\nMacrocosm\t\t\t\tLivermore, CA\t\t\t(510) 449-1648\nOneNet\t\t\t\t\tLos Altos, CA\t\t\t(415) 948-1349\nMacIsland\t\t\t\tLos Angeles, CA\t\t\t(310) 476-2299\nMacShasta\t\t\t\tMt. Shasta, CA\t\t\t(916) 926-4854\nFoundation\t\t\t\tNewhall, CA\t\t\t\t(805) 255-7237\nSanGabriel Valley MUG\tPasadena, CA\t\t\t(818) 790-5426\nGooey BBS\t\t\t\tPoint Mugu, CA\t\t\t(805) 986-1216\nServant Christian BBS\tRedondo Beach, CA\t\t(310) 371-2770\nSBAMUG\t\t\t\t\tRedondo Beach, CA\t\t(310) 792-8083\nA-1 EZ OK\t\t\t\tSan Diego, CA\t\t\t(619) 693-1575\nThis is not empTV?\t\tSan Diego, CA\t\t\t(619) 450-1590\nHarry's BBS\t\t\t\tSan Francisco, CA\t\t(415) 824-7809\nBare Bones BBS\t\t\tSan Jose, CA\t\t\t(408) 272-2173\nCity Connection\t\t\tSan Jose, CA\t\t\t(408) 272-3332\nMacDaze\t\t\t\t\tSanta Barbara, CA\t\t(805) 964-6320\nMac Magic\t\t\t\tSanta Barbara, CA\t\t(805) 682-1737\nCrumal's Dimension\t\tSanta Clara, CA\t\t\t(408) 246-7854\nCasa del Cyborg\t\t\tSanta Cruz, CA\t\t\t(408) 457-2595\nBeacon Comminque'\t\tSimi Valley, CA\t\t\t(805) 522-9602\nChannel Z\t\t\t\tSimi Valley, CA\t\t\t(805) 581-4975\nJake and the Mac Man\tSolona Beach, CA\t\t(619) 775-2142\nIguana BBS\t\t\t\tSunnyvale, CA\t\t\t(408) 733-8626\nVIZability\t\t\t\tWalnut Creek, CA\t\t(510) 210-0800\n\n- Jason","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\nCute characterization Bill; however, there is no inconsistency between \nthe two statements.  Even if one believes that religion is \"primitive, \nsimple-minded and unscientific, anti-intellectual and childish\", one\ncan still hold the view that religion also adds an unnecessary level of\ncomplexity to the explanation.  The ideas themselves don't have to be\ncomplex before being excised by Occam's Razor, they only have to add \nunnecessarily to the overall complexity of the description.\n\n\nI think the non-essential part of an explanatory system is one that\nadds no predictive capability to the system.\n\n\nHuh?\n\n ^^^^^\nWatch it, your Freudian Slip is showing\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Fred Gilham asks whether it is true that Goedel wrote a version of\nthe ontological argument for the existence of God.\n\nYes, it is true. Someone has published a rebuttal pointing out\ncertain flaws in the argument, and recently Professor C Anthony\nAnderson, of the Philosophy Department of the University of\nMinnesota, has written a revised version of the argument, perhaps\nfree of flaws, and at any rate free of the flaws complained of in\nthe original version. He has sent me a copy, which I still have (I\nsaw it last week when I was looking for something else), and when it\nsurfaces again I can supply particulars. My guess is that it is\nbeing published (or already has been) in the Journal of Symbolic\nLogic.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nYou are quite confident that essences do not exist.  How do propose to\ndefine beings?  Can a thing can be *one* without definition?  Can a being\nhave a definition and know essence?\n\nWhat about properties?  Do beings have properties?  Does God have\nproperties?\n\nDoes numbers exist in reality as abstract entities or do we invent them?\n\n\nSee my post in alt.messianic about the possibilities of tri-theism from a\nphiolosophical point of view.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Has anyone built Xkernel for 3\/80's?  It works great on our 3\/50s, and I \nwould just as soon kiss the entire Sun 3 architeture goodbye (and reclaim \na bunch of disk space).  Email me direct, I'll post a summary.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Thanks to everyone who mailed help, unfortunately the end problem was a REALLY\nstupid `oversight' on my behalf. The code was 100% perfect, but it might\nhelp to add Control.C to my makefile.......\n\n\tAnyway the mangled name was telling me it could'nt locate the Control\nconstructor...","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"SOFTWARE \tRETAIL \/ SALE  Price\r\n\r\n\/\/\/\/\/\/GRAPHICS\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ \t\t \r\n\r\nCOREL DRAW 2.0 \t300 \/ \t25 \r\n\r\nALDUS PHOTO STYLER 1.1 \t800 \/ \t100 \r\n\r\nIMAGE IN COLOR (2 ) \t800 \/ \t100 \r\n\r\nPHOTO FINISH (3 OF THESE) \t295 \/\t75 \r\n\r\nIMAGE IN SCAN & PAINT \t150 \/\t20 \r\n\r\nIMAGE IN FULL PACK \t300 \/ \t45 \r\n\r\nPICTURE PUBLISHER \t800 \/ \t100 \r\n\r\nIMAGE PREP \t200 \/ \t50 \r\n\r\nSNAP PRO \t70 \/\t20 \r\n\r\nIMAGES INC. \t200 \/ \t50 \r\n\r\nPUBLISHER'S PAINTBRUSH \t495 \/\t50 \r\n\r\nDELUXE PAINT 2 ENCHANCE \t129 \/\t25 \r\n\r\nSOFTTYPE ( FONT WORKSHOP) \t300 \/ \t25 \r\n\r\nVISTA PRO  \t100 \/ \t20 \r\n\r\noptibase-wORKSHOP \t149 \/\t35 \r\n\r\nGFA CAD \t100 \/ \t25 \r\n\r\n\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/UTILITIES \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\t\t \r\n\r\nX TREE GOLD FOR WIN \t99 \/\t25 \r\n\r\nTNT (anti virus) \t100 \/ \t15 \r\n\r\nsalvation \t100 \/ \t15 \r\n\r\n\nAMISH UTILITIES \t79 \/\t15 \r\n\r\n\n\n\r\n\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/MULTIMEDIA \t\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\t\r\n\r\nSMART TEXT \t200 \/ \t10 \r\n\r\nMUSIC CLIPS \t149 \/\t25 \r\n\r\nAUDIO TRACKS  \t79 \/\t15 \r\n\r\nSPINnAKER PLUS (MAC) \t495 \/\t35 \r\n\r\nSPINnAKER PLUS (PC) \t495 \/\t35 \r\n\r\nASK ME 2000 \t500 \/ \t35 \r\n\r\nMULTI MEDIA MAKE YOUR POINT  \t79 \/\t20 \r\n\r\nMADISON AVE \t75 \/\t25 \r\n\r\nINTERFACE (MAC) \t300 \/ \t10 \r\n\r\n\nMR. SOUND EFFECTS \t50 \/\t10 \r\n\r\nMUSIC BYTES \t50 \/\t10 \r\n\r\nTEMPRA SHOW \t495 \/\t50 \r\n\r\nSTORYBOARD PLUS \t400 \/ \t50 \r\n\r\n\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/PROGRAMMING \t\t\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ \r\n\r\nM S WINDOWS 3.1 DEV. KIT (FULL) \t500 \/ \t75 \r\n\r\n\nWINDOWS MAKER PRO \t995 \/\t50 \r\n\r\nMS C 5.1 \t500 \/ \t10 \r\n\r\nTOP SPEED MODULA \t300 \/ \t10 \r\n\r\n\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ BUSINESS \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\t \r\n\r\nTHE ART OF NEGOTIATING \t150 \t10 \r\n\r\nTELEMAGIC \t150 \/\t10 \r\n\r\n\nFULL IMPACT(MAC) \t500 \/ \t10 \r\n\r\nAPPROACH DATABASE 400 \/ 50\n\r\nASCEND \t300 \/ \t35 \r\n\r\n\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ GAMES \t\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\t \r\n\r\n\nNFL PRO LEAGUE FOOTBALL \t49 \/\t15 \r\n\r\nECO-SAURUS \t40 \/\t10 \r\n\r\n\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ hardware \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ \t\t\r\n\r\nmodem 2400 baud \t200 \/ \t50 \r\n\r\nassorted joysticks \t35 \/\t9 \r\n\nWIllows VGA TV  300 \/ 50\n\nAmiga Trac Ball 75 \/ 20\n\n\n\/\/\/\/\/\/ misc. \/\/\/\/\/\/\/ \t\t\r\n\nthe wedding planner \t49 \/\t10 \r\n\nSOFTWARE YARD SALE FRI  4\/30 ,SAT. 5\/1, & SUN 5\/2   8:30 TO 4:00   \r\n\r\ne-mail -- pbenson@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu\n\nLOCATION:\n\n436 NUNNELEY RD., PARADISE\nCA 95969    \n\nPhone 916 872-7905      ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nThe bacteria in your gut are important.  But colonic flushes are not the \nway to improve gut function.  Each person has almost a unique mix of \nbacteria in his\/her gut.  Diet affects this mix as does the use of \nantibiotics.  A diet change is a much better way to alter the players in \nyour gut than is colonic flushes.  Cross contamination has been a real \nproblem in some of the outfits that do this \"treatment\" since the equipment \nis not always cleaned as well as it should be between patient \"treatments\".\nDental drills have me a little concerned about HIV infection and I've \npicked a dentist that uses both chemical and autoclave sterilization of his \ninstruments(more clostly but much safer).  Full sterile technique is \nalso used just like that practiced in an OR(mask, gloves and gowns worn and \ndisposed of between patients).  Each visit costs me 15 dollars more than \nthe standard and customary fee so I have to pay it out of pocket.  His much \nhigher fees do not drive away patients.\n\nI can not think of any good reason why someone should subject themselves to \nthis colonic flush procedure.  For very little, if any benefit, you \nsubject yourself to hepatitis, cholera, parasitic disease and even HIV.\nJust ask yourself why someone might resort to this kind of treatment?\nCould they be having GI distress?  Could this distress be due to a \npathogenic organism?  Could I get this organism if the equipment is not \ncleaned properly between patients?  Do I really want to take this risk?\nFood for thought.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nI've only ever done it in an automatic. I was sitting in my Olds, in\nthe winter, at a light, when I heard screeching behind me. I managed to\ndart into the left turn lane before the sliding Jetta wound up half\nwhere I was and half in the parked car beside where I was. I've never\nhad occasion to do it on a bike, but I imagine that it would be even\neasier, because you could slip beside the car in front. Giving a gander\nat the mirrors while at a light will give you time to get the clutch\nout smoothly when you notice trouble, instead of waiting for the\nscreeching.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"---\nI was wondering if someone could send me the pinouts to the Apple 13\" and\n14\" RGB monitors.  Those parts of the docs seem to have been misplaced\naround here.\n\nThanks a _lot_ for your help.\n\nKevin\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nKevin O. Lepard\nInternet:  lepard@mayo.edu","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nYou are correct (several times). TEMPEST is a codeword for a standard, shared between the NATO governments, to limit the inadvertent emission of information by either electromagnetic radiation or conduction. The limits set in the \nstandard are classified but there is open source information to the effect \nthat either the electrical or magnetic components of electromagnetism can be \nexploited. It is a basic rule of physics that there is an electromagnetic \nfield associated with any path that conducts a flow of electrons.\n\nAmong other things, I drive a 1987 Korean built AT clone and an associated 24 pin dotmatrix printer. The major source of unintentional emission is the CRT. To that can be added the video driver card, the RS232 parallel cable and the \nprinter head. The emissions from these are gross can be detected with the \ncrudest of equipment. Were I to apply good test equipment and some \nintelligence to measuring emission levels, I would find many other potential \nsources of leaked information.\n\nWhere cryptography is used for serious purposes, poor TEMPEST protection \nbecomes an important security hazard.\n\nIn the early eighties, the need to allow some commercial concerns, \nparticularly financial institutions, a level of protection against TEMPEST \nthreat led to a series of briefings to invited corporations and to the \n'release' of a cut-down TEMPEST stansard for commercial use. I say 'release' \nfor while equipment to meet the standard is available (at a price and to \napproved customers) AFAIK even the commercial standard remains classified. If\nyou think about it, it would really have to wouldn't it? \n   \n-- ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Several weeks ago, I described a problem with my Apple High-Resolution\nmonitor and promised to summarize replies received by e-mail. To\nrecapitulate: Occasionally, every two or three hours or so, my monitor\nmomentarily loses sync. The entire raster image bounces down about an\neighth of an inch or so, then rights itself. This usually happens right\nafter I close a large window, highlight a large area, or do something that\nradically alters the image on the screen. Sometimes, though, it happens\nwith no provocation whatsoever.\n\nI have received a bewildering range of replies. At one extreme was\na man, clearly quite knowledgable about monitors, who said that the\nproblem was that the 13\" monitor's power supply simply couldn't always\nkeep up with sudden changes of the raster image; the rapid change from\na largely light screen to a largely dark one overtaxed the monitor's\npower supply. There was no fix available, he said, because nothing was\nreally wrong. (I guess he meant that the flaw was so fundamental that\nit had to be endured.)\n\nThis seemed quite persuasive and I would have been tempted to\nadopt an attitude of stoicism, except for a reply from a 13\" monitor\nowner who discovered that this very problem is documented in the \nApple Service Technical Procedures, Volume 3, under the heading\nJitter Correction. The section describes a fix involving the replacement\nof a capacitor, the adjustment of a potentiometer, or, failing that,\nthe swap of a circuit board.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"A friend of mine would like to sell his 850 MB SCSI drive for $800 + S\/H.\nIt is a full-height drive, and has been used for about one and a half years.\nIf anyone is interested, please e-mail me.  Thank you.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n\tBuild 59 still has a number of problems--sheared fonts, for \n\tinstance, if you have Crystal Fonts enabled.  Some other problems--\t\n\t\"color darkening\" and some others.  I don't use the drivers in \n\tany mode other than 1024x768x256, so if there are bugs in the\n\tother modes I can't say.\n\n\n\n\n\tTo be honest, up until now, I have only found one bug in the \n\tDiamond Viper drivers, and it seems innocuous.\n\n\tThat is, under Microsoft Word, select Format Border, click\n\tshading and take a look at the patterns.  The 5% pattern\n\thas been swapped with the 90%, and so on.  The whole list\n\tis _completely_ reversed--looks right onscreen, but take\n\tit to another machine (i.e., a GUP or ss24x machine) or\n\tprint it and iy shows--badly!  \n\n\tKeep in mind that I use mainly 1024x768x65k mode, so I can't\n\tspeak for the others, but otherwise these drivers seem pretty \n\tsolid.\n\n-- \n\t\"What's big, noisy and has an IQ of 8?\"","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Apparently, the public workers' strike in St John's, Newfoundland is over.\nThe strike has, since mid-January, forced the St John's Maple Leafs hockey\nteam to play their home games in other cities such as Toronto, Cornwall\nand Charlottetown. They have been playing their playoff home games\nin Halifax, Nova Scotia. Leafs' management said that they COULD\nreturn to St John's for the second round.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Charles Boesel writes\n(sci.image.processing,comp.graphics), wdm@world.std.com (Wayne Michael)  \n\nIllustrator for SGI is a shipping product. Adobe and SGI have announced that  \nPhotoshop is being ported to SGI machines. A simillar announcement has been  \nmade by Adobe and Sun for Sun platforms. No dates have been announced to the  \nbest of my knowledge.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"David Gibbs replies:\n\nI guess I was semi-serious. Without using my hands, I lean and the bike \nturns. When leaning, a torque is applied, at a 90deg angle to the front \nwheel's axle, just as in countersteering. However, this torque is also about \n90deg from the axis of the steering head. Instead of making the \nbike lean, gyroscopic effect makes the bars turn, but I don't remember \nwhich way.\n\n-Rick\n\nOh yeah, I tried this in the driveway, on the centestand,(as suggested \nsomewhere else) but it doesn't seem to work the same.\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nAs does the idea that a CS gas canister can get hot enough to ignite dry\nbaled hay.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"A question for any high-mileage Audi owners out there: I am\ninterested in buying a 1989 Audi 5000S for $5500 Cdn.  The\nreason the car is selling for so little is that is has\n155000 km on it (just under 100000 mi.).  The car's owner\nclaims the car is in good condition.  My question is: how\nreliable are Audi 5000s with mileage that high?  Would it\nbe worthwhile for me to buy the car?  Any problem areas that\nI should look out for?\n\nAny help would be greatly appreciated.  Post responses and\/or\ne-mail me.\n\nThanks\n\nSteve Hui","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"This summer (~July 20) my wife (Michelle) and I will be in Boston\nattending my brother's wedding.  After the wedding we are planning\nto motor up to Bar Harbor, Maine to visit some relatives for a few\ndays.  Our summer would be *made* if we could find a bike (or bikes)\nto borrow or rent to ride up to Bar Harbor and back.\n\nHere's some important details:  I've been riding for ~11 years,\n(my own bikes for the past 7 years), Michelle has been riding for the\npast 6 years (her own bikes), I've only been involved in one accident\nwhich was caused by a cage driver running a stop sign, I currently own\na BMW R90, Michelle owns a Yamaha Virago 700, we prefer cruising over\nracing, we've toured a fair amount, we're both licensed and insured,\nand we're nice people.\n\nSo, if anyone has a bike (or bikes :-), but the second one would have\nto be a Virago or something else with an equally low seat) that they\nwould be willing to loan us for 3-4 days in July, Michelle and I would\nbe eternally grateful. In addition to our friendship, you would also\nhave the use of our bikes should you ever pass through Minneapolis.\nIn exchange, we would be happy to take you and a guest out for dinner\nand an evening of wild bike stories, or we might even be willing to\ncough up some money for improvements to the bike(s), like new tires or\nsomething.\n\nAlso, any information about bike rentals in the Boston area would be\ngreatly appreciated.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nIn X10, the drawing attributes were bundled into drawing\nrequests;  that is, the server's drawing model was stateless.\n\nThis caused problems with performance and network traffic,\nso the X11 redesign included the graphic context to codify\nthe drawing state.  Most application designers who want to\ndraw things in several different colors create a GC for\neach color during initialization, then pass the GC id in\neach drawing request.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n > Mary at that time appeared to a girl named Bernadette at\n > Lourdes.  She referred to herself as the Immaculate Conception.\n > Since a nine year old would have no way of knowing about the\n > doctrine, the apparition was deemed to be true and it sealed\n > the case for the doctrine.\n\nBernadette was 14 years old when she had her visions, in 1858,\nfour years after the dogma had been officially proclaimed by the\nPope.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nOh, really. When?\n\n\nThe '93 Mustang Cobra can. Check it out.\n\n\nEhhhh, maybe. The '93 Mustang Cobra does a good job for a lower price,\nand it's just a taste of what's ahead in the 30th Anniversary of\nthe original Pony Car.\n\n\nJust think! Corvettes are almost up to the performance levels\nof a '65 Cobra! Wow! In a few years, they might be up to the\nperformance levels of a '66 Ford GT-40. Wow, man, just think\nabout it... ;-)\n\n\t\t\t\tJames","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Hi, folks,\n\nI have a question:\n\n        How can I generate a PCX file using Word for Windows (2.0) ?\n\nI know I can select a Postscript printer driver to get a PS file, but how\ncan I generate a PCX file ? Is there a printer capture utility for windows\nthat ever exists ? Or a utility to transfer PS format to PCX format, or\nTIFF format?\n\nPlease reply by E-MAIL, I will give a summary. Thanks.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nI'm not sure about this but I hope the answer is that you can't apply under\nthe law of return.  By conversion, you've elected not to be a part of the\nJewish nation.\n\n\n\nAt the moment you converted, you officially anounced to the world that *you* do not\nconsider yourself to be part of the Jewish Nation.  So, why should the Jewish Nation\nconsider you to be a member?\n\n\n\nNo.  As a result of wars brought by the Arabs against the Jews in an attempt to\nannihilate Israel, the Arabs have lost their claim to land there.  Attacking Israel\nis\/was illegal and they now have to pay the price.  Do I feel sorry for the\nPalestinians?  Yes I do.  But I blame the Arab nations for their problems, not\nIsrael.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nBy not being able to drive for a year, it was close enough to jail.\n\nAnd, BTW, where the hell did I ask for sympathy.\n\nI asked what to do about insurance, not about my _life_.\n\nFWIW, if everyone was _honest_ on this group, I'd\nothers besides me that read this have had a DWI too.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nWell over 100,000 in Lebanon alone.\n1,000,000 - 2,000,000 in the Iran\/Iraq conflict, even if Iranians\naren't Arabs, strictly speaking.  (They seem to hate the Zionists at\nleast as much as anyone else in the neighborhood.  Is there some\ncorrelation perhaps between hating Israel and killing off your own\npeople?)\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nI assume that you are literally trying to create a widget of type\ntextWidgetClass. Use the AsciiText widget instead.\n\nJim","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Has anyone seen hallusions?  You can buy a poster of them and it looks like a simple dot pattern\nwhen you first look at it but if you focus behind it you see a 3d picture.  I'm looking for\na program that generates these pictures.  There's a company in Texas that makes them but I \ndoubt if they're giving the program away.  Any help would be appreciated. \n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Sorry, I've lost track of who asked the question originally \n\t(our news server at GSFC keeps things around for tremendously\n\tshort periods of time), but wanted to be certain before I\n\treplied. Someone asked about displaying the compressed images\n\tfrom the Voyager imaging CD-ROMs on a Mac. As Peter Ford (MIT)\n\tpointed out, a decompression program is available via FTP.\n\t(Sorry, I don't remember the name of the node offhand, \n\talthough it's .mit.edu.) In any case, though, one of the MAC\n\tdisplay programs (CD ROM Browser by Dana Swift) does display\n\tthe compressed images directly. The program is shareware and\n\tis distributed by NSSDC for nominal reproduction costs ($9 +\n\tshipping, if memory serves). This does *not* cover the\n\tshareware price which should go to Dana for his diligent work\n\tand upgrades, however.\n\n\tTo request current pricing information, information about\n\tavailable display software, catalogs, or data from NSSDC,\n\tcontact our user support office at:\n\n\t\tNational Space Science Data Center\n\t\tCoordinated Request and User Support Office (CRUSO)\n\t\tMail Code 633\n\t\tNASA\/Goddard Space Flight Center\n\t\tGreenbelt, MD   20771\n\t\tPhone: (301) 286-6695\n\t\tFax:   (301) 286-4952","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"D> I am going to purchase a Modem with a S\/R FAX capability. Currently I \n D> am considering Suprav.32bis or Global Village Teleport-Gold.\n D>  \n D> The Global Village averages about $100 more, is there an advantage?\n D>  \n D> Concerning FAX:  Do I need to be present when there are incoming FAX \n D> i.e., will the modem software recognize an incoming FAX and store the \n D> information. Once received, can I use Mac applications on the image.\n D>  \n\nMy telephone line seems pretty stable and I have the Supra as well.  Works \ngreat but with every passing day I fall behind on how many great 14.4s are \nout.  Zoom is out of the question from what I'm hearing.  AT&T has a great \nproduct from what I hear and the Sportster is really cheap now too.\n\nIf you want to receive a fax, your computer will have to be on, but not \nthe monitor and of course the modem.  You can set the number of rings that \nwill receive the fax on a specific ring you set with Fax STF software.  \nIt's entirely up to you how to arrange that.  I've had faxes sent to me \nwhich is great but I've been home to set it.  I don't have a need to set \nfax receiving up all day.  Also I hear there is a device that can channel \nall incoming phone signals for about $70.  Rumor also that the phone \ncompany can hook you up with the same gizmo for about $5 if that's what \nyou need.\n\nBest of luck and write back if you'd like more feedback.\n\n * Freddie 1.2.5 * Clinton:  The Tax Man Cometh & Cometh & Cometh & keeps on coming","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n  This neatly eliminates the need for a savior and \"proves\" that we can be\nsaved by works alone!  If we have no original sin, then it is possible for\nus to save ourselves by not sinning.  I understand the reasoning behind your\nargument, but it leads to sheer folly.  Original sin is the reason we need\nfaith to be saved.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Nothing wrong with what Felix did.  The only problem was that he didn't Dino \nhard enough.  Next time Felix aim for the ankles!!!!!!!!!!","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"hi all, i got several emails and a couple news replies and i guess i\nshoulda went into more detail... Being my anxiety level is peaking and you\nfolks have no clue who I am I may as well post the specifics and see what\nyou people think regarding my previous post.\nTo recap i applied to 20 schools total, 16 of which were MD and 4 DO.\n\nas it stands now i have had 13 rejects, 4 interviews( 2 MD and 2 DO), the\nresults of which are 2 waiting lists (1 MD and one DO)\n\n3 schools i heard nothing from at all.\n\nI have contacted all institutions other than the rejects and they have no\ninfo whatsoever to tell me.\n\nI have taken a good mix to apply to.. 2-3 top schools a bunch of middles\nand a few \"safety\"  (funny that most of my safety schools were the first\nto reject me)\n\nmy index is at like a 3.5 mcats were R7 P9 B10 WQ and R7 P9 B11 WR\nI couldnt get the damn reading score up... i never stuff like art\nhistory, politics etc \n\nIve done medical research at the undergrad level, done clinical lab work\nfor years now, but unfortunately i have no patient contact experience.\n\nI cant think of what else i left out... but thats the summary. What\npercent of people are usually called from the waiting lists on an average?\nI felt that my interviews went quite well yet i dont have a firm\nacceptance in my hand... anyone have any suggestions as to calm the\nmailbox anxiety?  \n\nIf you premeds out there or med students have any questions or comments\nfor me feel free to send them down... Typing is a form of anti-anxiety\nthereapy hehehehe :)\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nGeez, I didn't realize things were so bad at Ohio State that they can't\nafford phone books, or even operators.\n\nThis is probably Clinton's fault, isn't it...8^)\n\n403.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nPierre Turgeon of NYI, and Paul Coffey of Detorit are both #77. \n\nHope this help.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nYes!  Just take money from the profitable commercial enterprises\nand give it to the government to \"redistribute.\"  Government is so much\nmore efficient, trustworthy, and noble than self-serving businesses. :)\n\nLet's nip this redistributionist ignorance in the bud.  If it were not\nfor commercial enterprises, the whole world would be starving.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nYou mean grep (Unix is case dependent) and awk (where did you get AUCK from?)","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I would like to publicly apologize to our Anisa Aldoubosh\n   for playing :\n****\nWell Anisa I am not sure that I feel the necessary remorse.\nYou and another Muslim lady ( Hanan Ashrawi ) seems to me to\nbe some attempt to charm the west into forgetting what you\nare really saying.\nIt is not that we hate muslims but we hate certain things you\nare saying every now and then. And it is depressing to ponder the \nprospects for peace while those wievs are held by your people.\nNot that we are better then you , we have our own prejudices\nand vices in the West thank you. But your views are really \ndepressing . Thus I have fallen in the temptation to tease\nand make a little fun instead of ....\nand have problems to mobilize the necessary remorse!\n\nBest Regards\n\n\n   ","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"From article <qekN3B4w165w@sys6626.bison.mb.ca>, by baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (baden de bari):","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"much\nPure and Simple, Grant Fuhr is money.  He has been awesome in the playoffs,\nespecially last night.  But Mogilny has been scoring well, and his russian\nfriend Kymlev (sp?) has also done well.  But Fuhr is the biggest reason they\nare winning, and the difference between this year's team and previous years.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nI suspect the government feels it is enough to prevent companies from\noffering secure encryption services.  Big companies don't take that\nkind of risk.  They're too visible and have too much to lose.\n\nThe US government may not have to make encryption illegal to prevent its\nuse.  If they could credibly say to IBM or MIT: you will receive no US\ngovernment money next year unless you follow these voluntary guidelines on\nuse of encryption, I doubt either organization would delay making use of\nencryption a violation of local policies.  The US government gets much of\nits power by making it impractical to operate without getting money from the\ngovernment while putting restrictions on use of such money that would be\nillegal if they were enacted as laws.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Just a quick comment.  As a baptist clergyperson, I find the idea\nof such a \"baptism\" (if the news report is in fact accurate, and\nthey seldom are regarding religion) offensive.  The pastor here seems\nto have a most unbaptist view of baptism- one that seems to demand the\nceremony even when comprehension and choice are absent.\n\nWe do baptize converts, but no one who has been deceived into hearing\nthe word is likely to be a convert.  If in fact the grace of God might\nwork in such a situation, there is no harm done in waiting a day or\ntwo.\n\nBaptist believe in regenerate membership.  Did this church include these\nhalf-baked (at best) converts into their church fellowship? Or do they\nsomehow feel there is some validity in dunking them and turning them loose?\n\nThis kind of \"evangelism\" is certainly not baptist, and probably not\nvery christian, either.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nand so on.\n\nsee my response in comp.dcom.modems.....all of your answers are there.\n\nbtw, next time, if you must cross-post into other groups, CROSS-POST\ninstead of posting multiple copies.  that way, only one copy of your\narticle must be transmitted by the network, and only one copy is stored\non people's disks (except in the case of brain-damaged news software).\n\n   --jim\n\n--\n#include <std_disclaimer.h>                                 73 DE N5IAL (\/4)\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nINTERNET: jim@n5ial.mythical.com  |  j.graham@ieee.org     ICBM: 30.23N 86.32W\nAMATEUR RADIO: n5ial@w4zbb (Ft. Walton Beach, FL)          AMTOR SELCAL: NIAL","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI read that GM wants to keep the Design part of Lotus but lose the car\nproduction. And, I seem to remember, that the main problem with the Elan\nwas caused by GM's insistence that the Elan be re-designed (significantly)\nfor the US market which caused major design & production headaches. \n\n\nQuite true - brain fade on my part.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"sherman@lea.csc.ncsu.edu (Chris Sherman) gripes:\n\nxv's been shareware for about a year ... hadn't you noticed?\nI don't have a problem with this.  John Bradley has put a *hell*\nof a lot of work into xv, and if he feels that it's time to get\nsome monetary reward from it, that's surely his right.\n\n\nHad you bothered to consult the distribution terms of the IJG JPEG\ncode (which are right there in the xv distribution), you would have\nobserved that we specifically grant permission for use in shareware\nand commercial software.  Sam Leffler's libtiff copyright also grants\npermission for unrestricted use including resale.\n\n\n\"Commercial\"?  There's a big difference between a polite request\nfor a voluntary donation and commercial, it's-illegal-to-copy-this-\nand-we'll-sic-our-lawyers-on-you software.\n\nI do agree that John's readme file could be a little clearer about\nwhat he means by personal use.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"hello out in networld,\n\n       We have a lab of old macs(SEs and Pluses). We don't have enough money \nto buy all new machines, so we are considering buying a few superdrives for \nour old macs to allow folks with high density disks to use our equipment. \nI was wondering what experiences (good or bad) people have had with this sort\nof upgrade.\n\n\nmurray\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nAre you sure you want to do that?  If a win app locks up for some reason, \nctrl-alt-del may be the only way to kill the app and get back to Windows.  \nGranted it doesn't work all that often but it has come in handy on occasion.\nI consider it pretty carefully before I disabled that keystroke.  Just a \nthought.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nIf you read the last couple of books in the series closely (well, #3 and #4\nat least), there are at least two points at which the real Question is\nimplied.  Conversations proceed much like:\n\nZaphod: What *is* the ultimate Question, I wonder?\nArthur (not paying much attention to Zaphod, but needing a random seed for\n  the Infinite Improbability Drive): Think of a number, any number.\n\nActually, it may be Marvin who uses this phrase a few times as well, and\neverytime it's arranged such that \"Think of a number, any number\" could be\nan answer to someone's question about the Question.\n\nI kind of like it.  Very mystifying.  It's not even \"pick a number\" or\n\"tell me a number\", just \"think of one\".\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Hi fellow auto enthusiasts!\n\nDoes anyone have any info on the new 4 valve per cylinder diesels Mercedes\nis working on?  Any specs on outputs, engine size, will they be direct or \nindirect injection?,  etc. would be welcome.  From what I hear these should \nbe out late this year, next year??\n\nThank you in advance for your replies!","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I know this is the wrong newsgroup, but I was wondering if anyone \nknows the date(s) of this year's COMDEX convention in Atlanta,GA.\nOr has it passed already?? E-mail if possible. Thanks.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I'm interested in building my own PC. Can anyone recommend a\n(UK available) book on the subject, and\/or sources for parts?\n\nAlternatively, can anyone recommend a source for a 486DX (33MHz)\nPC  (again UK available). I've just seen in Computer Weekly that\nthe March '93 price for these has fallen to sterling 1092 (including\nos, monitor, keyboard, delivery and VAT), but I can't find a single\nadvert that would give me a system at that price.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Hi there,\n\n\n  Do someone of you have a program for sending a key event\nto another window but it MUST appear in that window....\n\nI have used xsendevent.tar package but it does not do that !!!\n\nFor example, if I get a program executing:\n\n--------------\n#!\/bin\/sh\nread something\n....\n....\necho $something\n....\n....\n--------------\n\nand if I send the key event \"<KeyPress>a,<KeyRelease>a\"\nto that window then I will get:\n\nsomething=a\n\n\nThanks in advance.\n\n\n-- ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"You guys are correct.  The Bricklin was produced in Canada.\nThe National Museum of Science and Technology here in Ottawa\nhas one, and sometimes they put it on display.  Most of the time,\nit stays in storage because the museum doesn't have much room.\nIt's a big deal for a car to be Canadian and that's why they \nhave it.  If anybody's a fan, they also have a nice green '73\nRiviera that looks like it just came out of the showroom.\n-- \nMIKE HARKER\nOTTAWA, ONTARIO, CANADA\nVOICE: 613-823-6757","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"=|> \n=|> >I think that's the correct spelling..\n=|> >\tI am looking for any information\/supplies that will allow\n=|> >do-it-yourselfers to take Krillean Pictures. I'm thinking\n=|> >that education suppliers for schools might have a appartus for\n=|> >sale, but I don't know any of the companies. Any info is greatly\n=|> >appreciated.\n=|> \n=|> Krillean photography involves taking pictures of minute decapods resident in \n=|> the seas surrounding the antarctic. Or pictures taken by them, perhaps.\n=|> \n=|> Bill from oz\n=|> \n=\n=\n=Bill,\n=No flame intended but you're way, way off base. In simple terms Kirilian\n=photography registers the electromagnetical fields around objects, in simple,\n=it takes pictures of your aura.\n\nGreg:  Flame definitely intended here.  Bill was making fun of the misspelling. \nGo look up the word \"krill.\"  Also, the correct spelling is Kirlian.  It\ninvolves taking photographs of corona discharges created by attaching the\nsubject to a high-voltage source, not of some \"aura.\"  It works equally well\nwith inanimate objects.\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nCarl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI\/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I plan on being in the Toronto area sometime this summer (late June or\nearly July) and would like to attend a Blue Jay game.  I would\nappreciate if anyone could give me information on how to obtain\ntickets for Blue Jay games.  I would prefer to get good seats and I\nassume this would require going through some ticket broker and paying\n$$$$.  Ticket broker info for the Toronto area and\/or ticket info\ndirectly through the Blue Jays would be appreciated (I'll bring oxygen\nif need be.)  My schedule is flexible so any games are candidates\n(though I'd prefer to see Texas.)\n\nThanks in advance.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nThe alt.* hierarchie is created for 2 purposes:\n1. For groups which do not fit under the comp.* or other 'official'\n  hierarchies\n2. For the fast creation of hot new newsgroups like alt.gulf.war\n\nBecause there is no voting process or any other control facilities,\nsites are free to decide not to carry (some of) the alt groups.\n\nTherefore, it is (I think) desirable to try to create comp.graphics.\n{raytrace, rendering or whatever} and not an alt-group","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"<< \n<<<\n<<<Anybody got Arlen Spectre's address?  I want to write to him and thank him\n<<<for showing the leadership to demand a Congressional investigation\n<<<into the Waco mess.\n<< \n<<If I had Arlen's address, I would go to his house (Do weasels live\n<<in houses or in holes?) and personally tell him what a pathetic idiot\n<<he is.  Arlen is the personification of the word \"jerk\". [snip...]\n<< \n<I'm no fan of Arlen Spectre's, but he did the right thing, and attacking his\n<motives in this case is wrong. \n\nPardon me, here, but I don't trust Spectre's motives here at all.  Spectre\nwas a major part of the Warren Commission, (remember the magic bullet theory?)\nand is NOT to be trusted if there's even the tiniest chance the guv'mint may\nhave done something wrong.  If he gets a chance I'm afraid he will satisfy\nthe public outcry with another whitewash.\n\n<Unfortunately, if some of us get our wish and the BATF is disbanded or folded\n<into the FBI,  etc., we may end up with a \"more efficient\" agency than the\n<bumbling and competition we have today. Some agents should be fired. Some\n<should be prosecuted. But keep them as bumbling as possible -- we retain more\n<of our liberties that way.\n<\nRight on the money here.  We should certainly applaud the disbanding of the \nBARTF but we must stress the personal responsibility of the goons who set\nup the assault on American citizens.  \n\nWe must NOT count on Spectre, though, to get it done.\n\nRJL\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I am taking a course entitled \"Exploring Science Using Internet\".\nFor our final project, we are to find a compendium of Internet resources \ndealing with a science-related topic. I chose Astronomy. Anyway, I was \nwondering if anyone out there knew of any interesting resources on Internet\nthat provide information on Astronomy, space, NASA, or anything like that.\n\nTHANKS!","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I have the following PC games forsale.\n\nCyber Empire (VGA 3.5 disks)    $15\nProphecy of the Shadow (VGA 3.5)$15\nPrince of Persia (VGA 5.25)     $15\nGunship 20000 (VGA 3.5)         $10\nGlobal Conquest (EGA 5.25)      $10\nKings Quest V (VGA 5.25)        $10\nKings Quest IV (VGA 5.25)       $10\nAncient Art of War at Sea\n\t(EGA 3.5)               $10\nMech Warrior (VGA 5.25\/3.5)     $10\nChampions of Krynn (EGA 5.25)   $10\nTest Drive III (VGA 3.5)        $15\nBalance of Power (EGA 5.25)     $10\nLeisure Suit Larry in the\n   Land of the lounge lizards\n  (VGA 3.5\/5.25)                $10\nSentinel World I (EGA 5.25)     $10\nThe Bard's Tale I (EGA 5.25)    $10\nSkyFox II (EGA 5.25)            $10\nBard's Tale II (EGA 5.25)       $10\nModem Wars (VGA 5.25)           $10\nHillsfar (EGA 5.25)             $10\nStunt Track Racer (EGA 5.25)    $10\n\n\tAll of the games have original boxes and all instructions, manuals and copy protection devices.  Please respond by e-mail to jth@bach.udel.edu","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"No.  The Always IN-2000, among others requires no drivers for up to 7 SCSI\nhard drives.  DOS does not have a 2 drive maximum, as I already have 3. All\nis done in hardware, there's no software drivers at all.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\nJust for the record, read your owner's manual before attempting a push start.\nMost manufacturers today do not recommend this (I think the catalytic converter\nis the primary reason - unburned gas goes down to it and may ignite when\nthe converter gets into its operating range).\n\nThe best reason for a manual? Because you like to drive one. I find that its\nmuch easier to develop lazy habits in an auto trans car. Remember, pay \nattention out there - stupidity behind the wheel has still taken more people\nto the morgue than drunk driving. The problem is that we don't revoke peoples\nlicense for stupidity.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Hi all,\nI have available to me a set of Metric wheels (came off a Mustang or T-Bird)\nwhich are wearing nearly-bald Michelin TRX 220-55R390 tires.  The only place\nI have found these tires is the Tire Rack mailorder place for $121 a pop.\nIs there a cheaper source, or another manufacturer of this size tire?  Thanks\nfor any info...please E-Mail responses and I will post a summary if there is\nany interest.\n \n     JAS\n \nJIM STRUGLIA   C465353@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nPlease research carefully.  Just because a fax modem behaves like\na printer on a \"local\" machine, doesn't guarantee functionality \nwhen a \"local\" machine has fax software printing to a \"remotely\ninstalled\" fax card.  I tried this with Workgroups and the \nfax software didn't like it at all.  Could have been WinFAX's\npeculiarisms but I don't think so.  A lot of special hardware\ninteraction takes place internally.  In my case, a FAX manager\nprogram merely \"intercepts\" the print job and spools it to\nit's own directory, not print manager's spool directory.  To\nsoftware, it appears the job was \"printed\".  Print Manager \nplays NO part in the handling of the actual process.\n\nPardon me if I've incorrectly assumed this is what you were\nup to.  A truely network-aware fax-modem will most likely be\nrequired, or a lot of weird setup and tinkering.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"So what's the story here... we're all stuck with the regular\ngreen, red, and off yellow-orange LED's!?  What gives!!??\n        Anybody have a 'scoop' on FAIRLY LOW PRICED >BLUE< LED's???\n\n                        ... just out of curiosity, of course ...\n \n \n  _________________________________________________\n  Inspiration  |   ___                             |\n  comes to     |  \\   o  baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca |\n  those who    | (  ^  ) baden@inqmind.bison.mb.ca |\n  seek the     |   \/-\\      =] Baden de Bari [=    |\n  unknown.     |                                   |\n  ------------------------------------------------- \n ","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"The Only directory I know of that lists commercial and non-commercial\nwidgets is the ICS Widget Data book.  ICS sells the widgets for various\nprices.  There are also some public domain widgets in the delivery. \n\nThe ICS Widget databook is a subscription kind of thing, where \nyou pay some nominal fee, get a cd with the widgets and then you \ncan use the public domain widgets freely, and selectively activate \nwidgets which you want to purchase the right to use from them. \nThe nice thing about this is that you can purchase whole sets of widgets\nsuch as those used in dataviews.  I dont know there pricing schemes\nbut It is often better to buy than to redevelop the more complex \nwidgets, especially if you only one customer to distribute to. \n\nThis is the extent that I know about them except that I got their \ndatabook catalog  and it looked impressive (lots o' widgets there)\n\nI dont work for ICS or have any widgets being sold by them.\nhope this helps you.\n-- \nBrian Dealy                |301-572-8267| It not knowing where it's at  \ndealy@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov   |            | that's important,it's knowing\n!uunet!dftsrv!kong!dealy   |            | where it's not at...  B.Dylan","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"(st) Stephen Tice \n(km) Ken McVay\n\n\n(st)Seems to me Koresh is yet another messenger that got killed\n(st)for the message he carried. (Which says nothing about the \n\n(km)Seems to be, barring evidence to the contrary, that Koresh was simply\n(km)another deranged fanatic who thought it neccessary to take a whole bunch of\n(km)folks with him, children and all, to satisfy his delusional mania. Jim\n(km)Jones, circa 1993.\n\nI think there's plenty of evidence to the contrary - six \"rescued\"\nDavidians consistantly recounted that the Federal tank knocked over a barrel\nof propane. These guys haven't exactly been spending time together,\nplotting an elaborate and consistent story. It would be contradictory\nfor Koresh to go for \"mass suicide\" - remember that Koresh's death was\nthe opening of the sixth seal - the signal that Armageddon had begun.\nHis army (the people in the compound) would then fight the powers of\nevil and win, ending in the Rapture. The fire wiped out his army. I\nread earlier that Koresh was planning to walk out of the compound \nand blow himself up with a grenade - that would jibe better with\nhis teachings.\n\n(st)In the mean time, we sure learned a lot about evil and corruption.\n(st)Are you surprised things have gotten that rotten?\n\n(km)Nope - fruitcakes like Koresh have been demonstrating such evil corruption\n(km)for centuries.\n\nI'd think you'd be the last one to support gassing people and \nburning them to death for their religious beliefs. Corrupt? Evil?\nI don't know. We'll never know. And when you start calling people \nfruitcakes about their religious beliefs, that's dehumanizing people.\nWe saw what happened when many Germans started believing that Jews\nwere subhuman.\n\nIn one neat stroke, they destroyed all the evidence that could have \npointed to wrongdoing. And killed all the witnesses, including 12\nchildren whose last view of life was choking and pain, followed by\nburning them alive.\n\nI am extremely saddened that this tragedy occurred. I'm furious that\nthey used my money to do it. ","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I have a 486DX-33 ISA pc-compatible (Insight) with an Infotel internal\n14.4FAX\/14.4data modem with QuickLinkII for Windows.  When I first put the\nmodem in, I pulled a phone out of the jack in another room, and ran a phone\nline extension to my surge protector and then my computer.  The modem\nworked fine.  Then I split the line from the jack in the other room, ran\nthe line into my room into the surge protector and up to my computer.  Then\nI got a regular phone and plugged that into the phone jack in the modem.\nNow when I try to use the modem, QuickLinkII says \"No dialtone\".  The phone\nplugged into the back of the computer works fine.  I tried unplugging the\nphone, but still no dice.  Is it that the phone line was split too many\ntimes?  (I don't understand how this could be a problem, since the phone\nworked fine.)  Please note: none of the software or hardware parameters\nwere changed, only the phone line itself.  Is my new modem faulty?  What\ncan I do? \n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nYes, but no more than he is worth. :-).  Seriously: Jerome is merely\n(and grandly) another Christian witness, to be taken for what he can\ntell us.  He is one in the community of saints.  You seem to wish for\na greater polarization and dichotomy between Catholic and Protestant\nthought than seems to me, from a historical perspective, to be valid.\nTo be sure, Rome rejects (some significant aspects of) Protestant\nthought just as vehemently as Protestants reject (some significant\naspects of) Roman thought.  Other than some peoplw who apparently try\nto embody the greatest extreme of this rejection, on either side, there\nis not quite so vast a gulf fixed as casual observers seem to assume.\n\nEcumenical consultations between Rome and the Lutherans, as well as \nthose between Rome and the Anglican communion (to which I belong) show\nvery nearly complete convergence on understanding the basic theological\nissues -- the sticking points tend to be ecclesiology and church polity.\nThus, for example, as you go on to say:\n\n\nMany of us do not regard a papal decretal as having any necessary (as\nopposed to political) significance.  Sometimes it will, sometimes it\nwon't.  You misread me if you think that my communion, at least, \"throws\nout\" the deuterocanonical books.  Nor do I think you should overstress\nthe sense in which the more Reformed may do so.\n\n\nI seriously suggest you rethink what you are saying here.  It verges on,\nand could be taken as, anti-Semitic in the worst sense.  The \"unbelieving\"\nJews were, according to what I understand as a Christian, the chosen\npeople of God, and the recipients of His pre-Incarnational revelation.\nI think they have some say in the matter.  The Javneh meeting should not\nbe over-interpreted.  A recent magisterial study titled _Mikra_ (I don't\nhave more citation information on hand, sorry) produced primarily from\nthe background of Christian (rather than specifically Jewish) scholarship\nsuggests strongly that the Javneh meeting mostly resolved a lingering\nquestion, where in practice the canon had long been fixed on the basis\nof the scrolls that were kept in the Temple, and thereby \"made the hands\nunclean\" when used.  The list of \"sacred books\" that may be drawn up from\nJosephus and other pre-Yavneh sources correspond (plus or minus one book,\nif I rememeber the chapter correctly) to the current Jewish canon of Tanakh.\n\nAll of this is not to \"throw out\" the deuterocanonicals (what, by the way,\nis YOUR position about the books the Greeks accept and Rome does not? :-))\n-- just to observe that the issue is complex and simply binary judgment\ndoes not do it justice.\n\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Note:  I am breaking this reply into 2 parts due to length.\n\n\nI agree that there are no verses that have gone unchallenged by gay rights \nactivists.  But if there are zero verses that \"'clearly' address the issues,\" \ndoesn't that mean that there are also no verses that clearly *support* your \ncase?  Are you sure you want to say that there are zero verses that clearly \naddress the issues?\n\n\nThe story in Genesis 19 tells of the citizens of Sodom demanding an opportunity \nto \"know\" the two men who were Lot's guests; the fact that the Sodomites became \nangry when Lot offered them his daughters could be seen as indicating that they \nwere interested only in homosexual intercourse.  Yes, what they wanted was \nrape, homosexual rape, and everybody agrees that that is wrong.  Some \nChristians believe that the homosexual aspect of their desire was just as \nsinful as the rape aspect of their desire.  The passage does not say what it \nwas that so offended God, whether it was the homosexuality, or the intended \nrape, or both, but I believe that it is only fair to consider all the possible \nalternatives in the light of related Scriptures.  I do not believe that those \nwho believe God was offended by both the homosexuality and the rape are trying \nto say that homosexuality is itself a form of rape.\n\nYou seems to take the view that the *only* sin described in Gen. 19 is in the \nfact that the Sodomites wanted to commit rape, and that it is unfair to \n\"stigmatize\" their homosexuality by associating it with the sin of rape.  I can \nsee how you might reach such a conclusion if you started from the conclusion \nthat there is nothing wrong with homosexuality, but then again we're not \nsupposed to start from our conclusions because that's circular reasoning.  If \nGod is in fact opposed to homosexual intercourse in general, then the more \nprobably interpretation is that He was at least as offended by the Sodomites' \nblatant homosexuality as He was by their intent to commit rape.  Later on I \nwill document why I believe the Old Testament portrays God as One who despises \n*any* homosexual intercourse, even if both partners are consenting adults.\n\n\nThe moderator found my proposal to be circular in that he regarded the church \nas the proper  authority for determining what *kinds* of marriages would be \nlegitimate, and thus the church's refusal to recognize \"perverted\" marriages \nwas circular reasoning.  My questions, however, had nothing to do with the \nchurch ordaining new kinds of marriages, and so his argument was something of a \nstraw man.  In terms of my original question, the precise \ndefinition\/translation of \"porneia\" isn't really important, unless you are \ntrying to argue that the Bible doesn't really condemn extramarital sex.  I'm \nnot sure the moderator was trying to do that.\n\nIn any case, I think both you and the moderator have missed the point here.  \nWhen Jesus was asked about divorce, He replied, \"Have you not read, that He who \ncreated them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, 'For this \ncause a man shall leave his father and mother and shall cleave to his wife; and \nthe two shall become one flesh'?  Consequently they are no longer two, but one \nflesh.  What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate.\" (Mt. \n19:4-6).  I read here that the sexual union of a man (male) and his wife \n(female) is a divinely-ordained union.  In other words, the institution of \nheterosexual marriage is something ordained and established by God--not by men, \nand not by the church, but by God.  Men are not supposed to dissolve this \nunion, in Jesus' words, because it is not something created by men.\n\nThis is not circular reasoning, this is just reading God's word.  I read in the \nBible that God ordained the union of male and female.  I do not read of any \nsimilar divinely-ordained union of two males or two females.  Granted, there \nhave been uninspired men who have ordained \"alternative\" unions (isn't Caligula \nreported to have \"married\" his horse?), but the only union that Jesus refers to \nas \"what God has joined together\" is the heterosexual union of a man and his \nwife.\n\n(Pardon me for mentioning Caligula.  I know that's probably inflammatory, and I \nshould save it for the discussion on bestiality, in part 2 of this post.  \nPlease hold off on passing judgement on me until you have read that section of \nmy reply.)\n\nAnyway, my original question was not whether we should translate \"porneia\" in a \nway that condemns only a select few kinds of extramarital sex, my question was: \ngiven that heterosexual marriage is the only union described by the Bible as \ndivinely-ordained, and given a Biblical prohibition against sex outside of \nmarriage, is homosexual intercourse sinful?  Of course, I see now that first we \nneed to ask whether the Bible really condemns sex outside of marriage.  You \nseem to be trying to argue that only certain kinds of extramarital sex (and \nother sins) are really wrong:\n\n\nAlternatively, it may be that the definition of such terms as \"porneia\" and all \nthe rest was, in Paul's day, what we would call a FAQ; i.e. the Law, as the \n\"tutor\" appointed by God to lead us to Christ, had just spent some sixteen \ncenturies drumming into the heads of God's people the idea that things like \nhomosexual intercourse were abominations that deserved punishment by death.  \nPerhaps Paul didn't go into detail on what \"porneia\" &c were because after 1600 \nyears he considered the question to have been dealt with already.  Perhaps the \nreason God's apostles and prophets did not devote a great deal of time defining \na distinct, New Testament sexuality was because He did not intend any \nsignificant changes in the sexuality He had already established by the Law.  \nI'll discuss the Law and homosexuality in greater detail below, but I just \nwanted to point out that the New Testament's failure to develop a detailed new \nstandard of sexuality is not necessarily evidence that God does not care about \nsexual conduct--especially after 1600 years of putting people to death for \npracticing homosexuality!\n\n\nAnd how do you define an \"obsessively driven\" mode of sexual behavior?  How do \nyou determine the difference between obsessive sexual behavior and normal sex \ndrives?  Is the desire to have \"sinful\" sex an obsessively driven mode of \nbehavior?  I think you see that this is circular reasoning:  Why is it defined \nas sinful?  Because it is obsessive.  What makes it obsessive?  The fact that \nthe person is driven to seek it even though it's sinful.  Or is it obsessive \nbecause it is a desire for that which society condemns?  Once again, that's \ncircular:  Why is it defined as obsessive?  Because the person wants it even \nthough society condemns it.  Why does society condemn it?  Because it is \nobsessive.\n\nYou seem to be trying to limit the Bible's condemnation of \"porneia\" to only \n\"perverted\" sex acts, but I don't think you can really define \"perverted\" \nwithout falling into exactly the same circularity you accuse me of.  What, \nthen, is Paul condemning when he declares that \"Fornicators...shall not enter \nthe kindgom of heaven\"?\n\n\nI think you misunderstood me:  I was not trying to make an argument on some \ntechnical definition of \"porneia\", I was raising the issues of the sinfulness \nof extramarital sex and the lack of any Scriptural evidence of a homosexual \ncounterpart to the divinely-ordained union of heterosexual couples.\n\n\nPlease remember what you just said here for when we discuss bestiality, in part \n2.\n\n\nI am glad you asked.  Would you agree that if God condemns homosexual \nintercourse even among those who are not under the Law of Moses, then this \nwould show that God's condemnation of homosexual acts goes beyond the ritual \nlaw?  If I can show you from Scripture that God punished the homosexual \nbehavior of people who were *not* under the Law of Moses, would you agree that \nGod's definition of homosexual intercourse as an abomination is not limited to \njust the ritual law and those who are under the Law?\n\nI've been having a private Email discussion with a 7th Day Adventist on the \nsubject of the Sabbath, and my main point against a Christian sabbath-keeping \nrequirement has been that nowhere in Scripture does God command Gentiles to \nrest on the sabbath, nor does He ever condemn Gentiles for failing to rest on \nthe Sabbath.  This illustrates the difference between universal requirements \nsuch as \"Thou shalt not kill\", and requirements that are merely part of the \n(temporary, Jews-only) Law of Moses, such as the Sabbath.\n\nThe point you are trying to make is that you think the classification of \nhomosexual intercourse as \"an abomination\" is *just* a part of the temporary, \nJews-only Law of Moses.  I on the other hand believe that it was labelled by \nGod as an abomination for Gentiles as well as Jews, and that He punished those \nguilty of this behavior by death or exile.  Here's why:\n\nBack in Genesis 15, God promises to give Abraham all the land that was then in \nthe possession of \"the Amorite\"--kinda hard on the Amorite, don't you think?  \nBut in verse 16 we have a clue that this might not be as unjust as it sounds:  \nit seems God is going to postpone this takeover for quite a while, because \"the \niniquity of the Amorite is not yet complete\".\n\nRemember, this is all long before there was a ritual law.  What then was the \niniquity the Amorite was committing that, when complete, would justify his \nbeing cast out of his own land and\/or killed?  Go back and look at Lev. 18 \nagain.  Verses 1-23 list a variety of sins, including child sacrifice, incest, \nhomosexuality, and bestiality.  Beginning in verse 24, God starts saying, \"Do \nnot defile yourselves by any of these things; for _by_all_these_ _things_ the \nnations which I am casting out before you _have_ _become_defiled_.  For the \nland has become defiled, therefore I have visited its punishment upon it, so \nthe land has spewed out its inhabitants... For whoever does any of these \nabominations, those persons who do so shall be cut off from among their \npeople.\"\n\nNotice that God says the Gentile nations (who are *not* under the ritual Law of \nMoses) are about to be punished because they have \"defiled\" themselves and \ntheir land by committing \"abominations\" that include incest, bestiality, and \nhomosexuality.  Flip ahead two chapters to Lev. 20, and you will find these \nsame \"abominations\" listed, and this time God decrees the death penalty on \nanyone involved in any of these things, including, specifically, a man \"lying \nwith another man as one lies with a woman\" (Lv. 20:13).  Their \n\"bloodguiltiness\" was upon them, meaning that in God's eyes, they deserved to \ndie for having done such things.  According to Lev. 18:26-29, even \"the alien \n[non-Jew] who sojourns among you\" was to refrain from these practices, on \npenalty of being \"cut off [by God?] from among their people.\"\n\nUnder the circumstances, I believe it would be very difficult to support the \nclaim that in the Old Testament God objected only to the intended rape, and not \nthe homosexuality, in Sodom.  Since God took the trouble to specifically list \nsex between two consenting men as one of the reasons for wiping out the \nCanaanite nations, (not homosexual rape, mind you, but plain, voluntary gay \nsex), I'd say God was not neutral on the subject of homosexual behavior, even \nby those who had nothing to do with the Mosaic Covenant.\n\n\nAccording to II Tim. 3:16, all Scripture is inspired by God and is profitable \nfor teaching, reproof, correction, and training in righteousness; thus, I \nbelieve that even though we Gentile Christians are not under the Law, we can \nlearn from studying it.  If a certain action is defined as a sin because it is \na violation of the Law, then it is a sin only for those who are under the Law \n(for example, in the case of Sabbath-keeping).  Where God reveals that certain \nactions are abominations even for those who are not under the Law, then I \nconclude that God's objection to the practice is not based on whether or not a \nperson is under the Law, but on the sinfulness of the act itself.  In the case \nof homosexuality, homosexual intercourse is defined by God as a defiling \nabomination for Gentiles as well as Jews, i.e. for those who are not under the \nLaw as well as for those who are.  Thus, I am not at all trying to say that \nGentile Christians have any obligation to keep any part of the Law, I am simply \nsaying that God referred to homosexuality as a sin even for those who are not \nobligated to keep the Law.  If this is so, then I do not think we can appeal to \nour exemption from the Law as valid grounds for legitimizing a practice God has \ndeclared a bloodguilty abomination that defiles both Jew and Gentile.\n\n(continued in Part 2)","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n   This is called silver bearing solder.   It is used to solder to\ndevices that have silvered contacts.   One application is soldering\nto the ceramic terminal strips used in the old Tektronix scopes.   These\nwere notched ceramic strips that were silver plated in the notches.\nIf you used ordinary solder the molten metal would disolve the silver\noff of the ceramic.   The silver was quite thin.   The 2% is a saturated\nsolution of silver in tin and lead.    Thus, no more silver can be\ndisolved in the solder solution.   Other devices that use silver contacts\nare quartz crystals and ultrasonic transducers.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n  I had a similar problem with my StyleWriter I (the original!).\nHave you tried cleaning the print heads? With the SWII driver, it's\nand option in the Print dialog box. Sometimes I had to do it several\ntimes to get the crud out. Yes it wastes ink, but it beats those\nwhite annoying lines.\n  Another idea is to print a couple of pages with just a big\nblack box. It can help to get the ink flowing.\n  Good luck!\n\n  Beth Corbo","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI agree, with the exception that I don't preach ignoring our cultures.\n\n\nIn Revelation 2-3, we see that in the first century church, there was one\ncongregation in each major city.  So there was one unified church.  Now in\neach city, there were people of different cultures.  Naturally, they\nformed something of a stew, with different members having different\nheritages.  Nevertheless, they were ONE body.  They met together,\nsometimes as smaller groups in their homes and sometimes in bigger groups\nin places such as the temple courts.\n\nNow in a particular city, then and now, you will find that there is a\ncommon language associated with that region.  For instance, in Rome, Latin\nwas spoken.  In the United States today, English is spoken.  So it would\nmake sense that congregations in different cities would speak the common\nlanguage and not necessarily Latin.\n\nNaturally, you would expect the lead evangelist to preach in the common\nlanguage.  In the first century church, there were probably many people\nin the congregation who could speak a given tongue to translate the\nmessage for people of foreign ethnic groups.  Today, however, you don't\nsee people speaking in tongues to translate sermons, even in so-called\nPentacostal churches.  We do have a modern day equivalent though --\nbi-lingual speakers.  Now in the unified church of which I am a member -\nsometimes called the International Churches of Christ, when we all meet\ntogether on Sundays, there are headphones on people who don't speak\nEnglish from which they hear an ongoing translation of the sermon in their\nnative tongue.  Neat idea, huh?\n\nNow, we meet in different size groups in a random sort of way on Sundays,\nso sometimes there will be a meeting of only Haitians or of Spanish-\nspeaking people, for example, who will hear an evangelist preach in their\nnative language.  In addition, we meet in small groups a couple of times\nduring the week for Bible discussion groups and Devotionals.  So someone\nwho speaks a different language will almost always be with people who also\nspeak his language (assuming the congregation is large enough) for those\nmeetings.\n\nAs for the people who speak the common language, they can keep in touch\nwith their culture, if they want, but they will also have equally deep\nfriendships among their church relationships with people of many various\nnationalities.  \n\n\nThe action of letting Catholics worship in a native language instead of\nLatin?  Indeed not!  See my second paragraph in response to the second\nclipping of your article.\n\nHowever, if you mean the action of forming denominations based on a\nculture, then the purpose of the church has been indeed thwarted.\n\nI'll assume the second possiblility when answering your next clipping.\n\n\nYou have met some needs of people, certainly, by helping them to be proud\nof their cultural heritages when most denominations didn't.  Yet you have\nlargely isolated yourselves from having quality \"Christian\" friendships\noutside your nationality (and your denomination).\n\nWe shall certainly give people a place to feel comfortable with their\nheritage.  However, we will do this in a way that does not destroy church\nunity, but rather encourages friendships among all disciples.\n\n\nIt sounds like these groups have wonderful intentions, but they are going\nabout things in the wrong way.  And names like the African Methodist\nEpiscopal Church still make me cringe, although not as much as before.\n\nI understand that there was more racism in the past that caused such\ngroups to be formed, but now we should try to unite.  I know that it's\nhard for many people on this newsgroup to imagine there being only one\nbody of people on earth, but it is quite possible, and I am working to\nmake it happen.  However, what might be a smaller step towards unity,\nwould be taking the word \"African\" out of your denomination's name.  Then\nperhaps someday a long time off, you can also remove the \"Methodist\nEpiscopal\" part also, and simply be part of \"the Church\".\n\n\nThere shall be one church, for the sake of unity, AND it shall be useful\nin helping students new to America make the transition in culture,\nlanguage, and thought.  We shouldn't make a new denomination to try to\nsolve problems.  The whole denominational mindset only causes more\nproblems, sadly.  \n\n\nThank you for the invitation.  That shows me that you indeed have the\nheart to spread the gospel of Jesus as well as take part in your cultural\nheritage.  Thank you also for responding to my post.  I know (all too well)\nhow they can be very time-consuming.\n\nThe whole idea of celebrating your culture is paved with good intentions,\nbut I still feel that you must restore and preserve unity at the same\ntime.  My own church, the Boston church, has the acapella singing that you\nmentioned in your post, yet doesn't limit expression of my Mexican\nculture, even though I am in the MIT Campus ministry and not the Spanish\n(speaking) Zone.  I have made a commitment to God that I will go to the\nSunday services of my church, because I know that my brothers and sisters\nhere are fully devoted in love for God as his disciples.\n\nI don't believe in tongues, as you may have already picked up on, because\nof my understanding of Biblical Christianity.  However, I am certainly\nwilling to visit your congregation provided that it doesn't interfere with\nmy normal worship.  Since you also live in Cambridge, I also extend an\ninvitation to you to visit our services as often as you like.  You can\nmeet the MIT students at the Student Center (across from 77 Mass. Ave.) at\n9AM on Sundays to leave for worship or simply call me after Wednesday\nnight to find out where the service will be held on a particular day.\nMy number is 225-7598, but will be 354-1357 in a few weeks from now and\nfor the rest of the summer.  Our service normally last from 10AM to noon,\nbut occasionally are later or earlier (1-3 times per year).  \n\n\nDefinitely!\n\nLet's also strive to grow in obedience to the Lord through being men and\nwomen after God's own heart.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"...\n\nYou can find cross reference to almost any IC or discrete semiconductor in \nPhilips ECG: Semiconductors Master Replacement Guide, ~$10. (Especially \nindustrial, commercial and entertainment, but not specialised or military.)","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"We are having a problem with a Quadra 950 that has stumped a couple of\ntechs sent to us by the vendor, as well as us :-)\nThis Quadra is 'stuffed' with 64Mb RAM, 2Mb VRAM and some large disk (400Mb\nI think). What happens is that after a certain variable interval of time\nthe video circuitry 'loses' vertical sync. It is quite apparent that the\nMac CPU is still ok, and the problem really seems to lie with the video\ncircuitry, since you can still save your documents, quit your aplpications,\neven pull down menus etc. (only the display is scrolling lik crazy, so it's\npretty hard to hit menu items ;-)\nWe had the original logic board replaced twice now, and the same problem\nhas been occurring on all boards although the inteval between occurrences has\nvaried. The first board had this problem every about 1hr, more often if the\ncache was turned OFF (yes OFF).  This is the only symptom that is not\nobviously related to the video circuitry (after all the cache is on the CPU\nright?). The second board had the problem every about 10 minutes (we did\nnot keep it, rather we put the original back), the current board we have\nhas this problem a lot less often (has gone about a week without doing it,\nbut did it twice within an hour yesterday).\nThe technicians that have come out to try to figure it out seemed pretty\nsharp and tried a number of sensible things (most of which we had\npreviously tried ourselves anyway). These included:\n-swapping the RAM\n-swapping the VRAM\n-swapping monitors (3 different 13\" Apple RGB and 2 16\" Apple RGB)\n-swapping cables\n-disconnecting HD and booting from floppy\n-sacrificing various small mammals\nHere are some other facts:\n-when we put a RasterOps ProColor 32 on the NuBus, the problem is fixed\n (it does not occur with the internal video or the ProColor video out)\n-the vendor cannot reproduce the problem back in their shop on the boards\n that exhibit it in our lab\n-Apple is said to be getting a little bit pissed off at shipping us boards\n that they cannot find anything wrong with, and getting them shipped back as\n faulty according to us.\nHere are some speculations:\n-I bet that neither Apple nor the vendor has tested these boards with that\n much RAM and VRAM on them simultaneaously, which may have something to do\n with their finding it hard to reproduce the problem (though we can\n reproduce it with just 4Mb of RAM, so this is probably a red herring).\n-the vendor's representative blames 'metal in your walls' - claims that our\n walls have metal in them which interferes with the Mac's operation. We\n have another 950 in the lab which works like a charm (though it's not in\n the exact same spot....) Please don't tell me this is probably it, I do\n not want to believe it.\n-it's probably not poltergeists, since they do not have badges to get past\n security at the entrance to our site.\n\nHas anyone any ideas? Please? Please email as well as posting cause I seem\nto be spending a lot of time rebooting my mac lately and have a lot less\ntime available to read news! :-)\nThank you in advance.\nCarlo Tiana\nNASA Ames Research Center\ncarlo@vision.arc.nasa.gov\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Hello\n\tI have posted to this newsgroup once before and recieved a\nmoderately helpful response on a couple of issues. This I appreciated very\nmuch . I would however like to know why it is that ther is simply NO \ninformation out there on some subjects for the relativly novice graphics\nprogrammer. The subjects are\n\n\t1) How do you access the extra video memory on a video board. I\nknow somwhere there aresome standard video bios calls that allow you to\ndothis. I have 1meg of memory on my board and according to all the books\nand info I have read I am only (at maximum) using 256k of it. There is a\nway to do this in standard VGA cause I have seen vidoe paging (written in\nassembly, which I don't know) written into apps hat use mode 13h. To get\nany speed at all you have to do this. How do I do it?\n\n\t2) The vesa standard. What gives here. I have read most of what\nthe net has to offer on VESA and as far as coding for VESA goes most of\nthe advice is cryptic at best. Where do I get public domain info that will\ntell me in \"mostly plain\" english how the vesa calls work.\n\n\tMy biggest gripe is about number 1. I have bought graphics books,\nI have asked graphics professors, I have hunted the net through both\ngopher, and archie, I ahave asked apps programmers and it is like there is\nsome lock on this information. Graphics programming books tell alot of\nprogrammiing algorithm information, but they always fall short of telling\nyou how to really control the video bios. What are all the calls folks, I\nknow there are people out there that know how to doall tis stuff. Where\nare you, and why haven't you written a book yet? \n\nPlease help\n\nThanks in advance","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nLooks like Bob Errey's ring really sparkles in that locker room, and everyone\nelse wants one, too! :-)  Correct me if I'm wrong though, (just through\nthe net, not through e-mail, I don't need 100 rl's in my e-mail!) but wasn't\nBoston down 2-0 vs. Buffalo last year?Boston lost 1 and 2 at home and won\n3 and 4 in Buffalo.  Whoever wins game 3 will advance.  Simple as that!!! :-)","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Can some on e give me some stats on Forsrg in the World Championships\n\nIf sao mail to ua256@freenet.victoria.bc.ca\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I need help getting my ZX-11 (C3) to behave.  I've managed to get\nthe front suspension to be very happy, but the rear sucks.  I can't\ndo anything with it to make it feel ok.  The bike is very stable\nthrough the corners (I think because I have the front just right),\nbut when the straights get bumpy the rear is torturous.  It feels\nlike it actually amplifies the bumps.  And the damping doesn't seem\nto do anything in real-life, although you can tell the difference\nwhen the bike isn't moving.  I've tried 4-5 cm of sag (from\ncompleteley unloaded), but I don't know which way to go.  Has anyone\ngotten the rear of this bike comfortable?  And if so, what kind of\nsettings (esp. what sag) did you use.  I like to corner, but I also\nwould like my kidneys to remain intact.  This thing makes the new\nZX-7 feel comfy....","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"STOP! STOP! STOP! STOP! This argument is getting silly! XV-3.00 now handles\n24-bit images without quantizing them. All these arguments are moot, null, \nand void. Please stop quibbling about a now obsolete version of the program.\n\nBesides, you can now generate tons of verbiage about the new shareware\nlicensing it uses instead ...\n\nMike","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I ran speedometer 3.21's tests (all of them) on my IIsi first with the 64k\ncache enabled, then with the cache disabled.  I put both runs in this\nuuencoded machine record...  the numbers favor the cache, mostly for\nbenchmarks with a lot of memory throughput...\n\n-----cut here-------\n\nbegin 644 cache.sit\nM  EC86-H92YS:70                                             \nM                          !3251$4TE4(0                .\/    \nM *?YO*&G^;RP                              \"!@?F\"  !3250A  $ \nM  .\/<DQA=0)&    %@#_#0 -8V%C:&4@8V]M<&%R90                  \nM     .7B                                  #_____36-H5'-09#, \nM *?YNJ\"G^;QB   *NP        ,)     !-1          !B.R-$#B(J7T#D\nM1B4[W_S+_4_N?P[?FT\"=K_F%1[^T_R_W\/^6-2;$49S$MG9%T[@1S7\"P5-<+Q\nM^04E-^Y^W_S-PWML1\/M9JTU K4-5X*NCX5=3-MM[C2KW<]V0%&9P\\]\\Y89\\5\nMJHQ#1*A8=>?\\BHL%2]\\J&29KE=6X+Z-K&[=_ZH>\"9<OE#O]5^C,H'7R@&BLC\nM&<[C6IJ;7&?S??.(7)=1R;@678ZQB\"G%S137]7?=JSNE&&MO-V2KZ4Y'U1E8\nMM+AA?L,?YH#R1RR&6_$9Y_GF-[#:^?.87S;9F<%9O]-3G.9K](E9D1X'\/'F,\nMKPEIB+4RJ\\;STS'LM!5'^* 7<P0'\/^\"X'8_Q-8[BRBU4AI0M;>1>M*\"!#;(%\nMB_-9,E6HVC=W>_()\"YV=:P0O=F0B8D^K;US44,?L95$L&U*OPN-US I<F-?0\nMV;:9M8;7>\/\\P&YXZ7DII4^G=-Y:>^K$S+W0T>9H\\-_S\\,]N^<ND63!$1FVDF\nMZJVHXU%?0-V\/&8W&)*4\"NPWU4).SR?G(M\"<_O\/&;QQ6!\"SN%NP6[Z\/O0P,$-\nM:'(T.;ZR8LV$]9^.-X$W#_4=S.W-V*2K5^16Y)Y[>=.,^]MN$CX+H.G=Y&YR\nM?Z32?L@_4';)*:6\/_.SV<<T9758PAI&L<<F2]Q:U,B2IFM;W;XT,Y[\\])79P\nMD3QZ<JC\".C>X.D)PX^[-[,8U:W'&E&DJ6_CW^OX%_E!6VS)H<C7.X\\>VOZ>>\nM>R3RW7LD84&??9-TGR(>2^Z1IR?-NVSIIS_TNKA'GOSXY]Q\/)(;_$M0JU&FH\nM\"U''H>(E_@RFJ 4U&!@N_U?%\/7)@X;<W\/SIWVU_97.[CV$7? S8<_$!QC[RY\nM\\&L?^].__=\"EX'X#7!_4M=@E\/VVB)KI(^=O'*N[\\TMG0PGE\\5]PC]U?>FSHO\nM%O@;<8^<^\/:3?_W-!V=U_EM<]TC'\/R\/RVENN\\E5 3-1-CDBTFP'S[8QUQR 4\nM](5?CNK._!A5\"(.()7V,H,\/?07_[FVL\\(2G-<=M4RVIRPLC6'L)4S5[7_F,<\nM^PZ_\"@                                                      \nM                                                            \n;                                    \n \nend\n\n\n-- \nEric Stadtherr      |   Help Room Consultant,    138 Durham     (515) 294-1314\nStorms 8147 Sage    |   \"With a smile upon my face,             home: 296-9201\nAmes IA  50013-0015 |    I never want to leave this place.\"   -GnR","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\nLet's go to the videotape.  Here's exactly what you posted:\n\n\n\nSo if you weren't saying that the deaths of \"bastard children of a sacreligious\nzealot\" was no big thing (and I know I am not the only one who read it that\nway), just what the hell WERE you saying?\n\n\nSo who brainwashed YOU into believing that whatever the government says it\nthe truth?  Or that Koresh was any actual threat to you and the rest of the \nUS?  Haven't you ever stopped to wonder WHY the government raided this farm?\nThis raid was NOT ABOUT RELIGION, SEX, OR CHILD ABUSE.  To the best available\nevidence at the moment, this raid, psychological torture, and group death was \nabout Koresh's failure to PAY A $200 TAX on ONE grenade launcher that he may \nor may not even have had!  That's why it was the BATF doing the raiding in the\nfirst place.\n\nDo you think a $200 tax evasion justifies an armed assault by the government\nwith 100 armed men in trailers, orchestrated character assassination, noise\ntorture, and a holocaust?\n\n\nThen think before you post.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\nthe subject line says it all: I'm looking for a TGA file viewer for the ATI\nUltra + card. It should support the true color modes, of course.\n\nIf someone knows where to find one via FTP, please let me know.\n\nthanx","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nI vote for turning them off at night.  THe stress of off\/on is a little \nharmful, so don't turn it off, then back on an hour later, etc, but\nturning them off for 4-5 hours or overnight is a good idea.\n\nThe electricy consumption will go down if you turn them off overnight, along\nwith heat. ","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\nWouldn't you rather have some type of standard \"electrical\" plug instead of \nthat \"fire hazard waiting to happen\" adaptor? I know I would, and I would \nalso prefer to have sensibly placed cup holders instead of an ashtray. (my \ncar came with coin holders already built in)","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Hi folks,\n\nsubject line says it all: which accelerators can you recommend for\na Mac LC II? Sorry, if this a FAQ.\n\ncheers ","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"There's a chiropractor who has a stand in the middle of a shopping\nmall, offering free examinations.  Part of the process involves a\nmultiple-jointed sensor arm and a computer that says in a computer-\nsounding voice \"digitize left PSIS\" \"digitize right PSIS\" \"digitize\nC7\" \"please stand with spine in neutral position\".  I'm wondering\nwhether this doesn't really measure anything and the computer voice\nis to impress the victims, or whether it is measuring something\nthat chiropractors think is useful to measure.\n-- \nhaynes@cats.ucsc.edu\nhaynes@cats.bitnet","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I'm a season ticket holder and have a pair of S.F. Giants tickets available for\nevery game except opening day. They're located in lower reserved, section 3, \nrow 2. They're two rows (about 5 feet) behind the MVP lower box seats that\ngo for $17.25\/apiece. I'm selling my tickets for $25\/pair. Here's the \nschedule for the next 8 weeks. E-mail me if you're interested.\n\nNote - All times are Pacific Daylight Savings time\n\n\nApr 28    New York      7:35pm\nApr 29    New York      1:05pm\nApr 30    Montreal      7:35pm\n\nMay 1     Montreal      1:05pm\nMay 2     Montreal      1:05pm\nMay 4     Philadelphia  7:35pm\nMay 5     Philadelphia  1:05pm\nMay 7     Los Angeles   7:35pm\nMay 8     Los Angeles   1:05pm\nMay 9     Los Angeles   1:05pm\nMay 17    Houston       1:05pm\nMay 18    Houston       1:05pm\nMay 19    Houston       1:05pm\nMay 20    Cincinnati    1:05pm\nMay 21    Cincinnati    7:35pm\nMay 22    Cincinnati    1:05pm\nMay 23    Cincinnati    1:05pm\n\nJune 3    Pittsburgh    7:35pm\nJune 4    Pittsburgh    7:35pm\nJune 5    Pittsburgh    1:05pm\nJune 6    Pittsburgh    1:35pm\nJune 8    St. Louis     1:05pm\nJune 9    St. Louis     1:05pm\nJune 11   Chicago       7:35pm\nJune 12   Chicago       1:05pm\nJune 13   Chicago       1:05pm\nJune 21   San Diego     7:35pm\nJune 22   San Diego     7:35pm\nJune 23   San Diego     1:05pm\nJune 24   Colorado      1:05pm\nJune 25   Colorado      7:35pm\nJune 26   Colorado      1:05pm\nJune 27   Colorado      1:05pm\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"My sig has generated more mail than any of my posts.\n\nRobin Hood is a school financing plan wherein property rich school districts\nwill have a portion of their tax revenue taken from them and given to property\npoor districts.  The laudable plan is to equalize the per student spending. \nIMHO, however, it is a disaster waiting to happen.  Taxes will go up in 50% of\nthe districts and we will lose control of how OUR tax money is spent.  It\npenalizes districts that have excelled.\n\nAnd the election is Saturday. Along with city council, school board and the\nunfinished Senate term.  And after I exercise one right, I'm going to exercise\nanother!","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nBear in mind that a lot of the Vandenberg launch traffic is military and\nat least semi-secret.  They aren't interested in publicizing it beforehand.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nYou miss the point.  A lot more negotiation is needed to convince women\nto have sex because there is a big taboo about women being free with \ntheir sex.  Many of the women I know would do almost anything rather\nthan be known as a slag, slut or whore.\n\nWith men however there is *status* attached to being able to fuck \nconstantly.  And with gay men, where both partners can prove status\nthrough their constant verility then you are going to get a situation\nwhere there is a lot of sex.\n\nThe difference is between het sex being rationed as a valuable commodity\nand gay sex being virtually unlimited due to the *appetites* of men.\n\nStraights suffer a bottle neck where women are concerned, gay men who\ndo not experience this bottle neck go to excess.\n\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n+>Can people please stop the 'I think\/know the BATF\/FBI are completely\n+>responsible but they'll cover it up so that the investigation will\n+>show that Koresch is responsible' bs. In an investigation of this\n+>size with the feds, state, and civilians involved in the\n+>investigation it would be practially impossible to cover up.\n\n\tThe place has burned to the ground.  The FBI and company\nhave the whole area cordoned off and have already arrested \nreporters for being at the site and taking pictures.\n\n\tAll your going to get in terms of a story is what the FBI, ATF\nand the Texas Rangers decide to release.  \n\n\n\n+>And with Republicans like Arlen Spector calling for investigations,\n+>this isn't going to be handled with kid gloves.\n \n\tWhen the Philadephia cops dropped their bomb on MOVE and\nmanaged to burn down an entire neighborhood many people said \nthe same thing.  Dead men and rubble tell no tales that the\npolice dont want them to tell.  ","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I'm certainly no engineer and really have no scientific basis\non which to make this argument, but don't you answer your own\nquestion?  Is the reflected signal \"shifted\" at all from the\nact of being reflected?  If so, wouldn't it then be easy for\nthe detector to discriminate between reflections and direct\nsources?\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"# >Coca Cola company will want to paint the moon red and white.  (Well,\n# >if not this moon, then a moon of Jupiter)...\n\nThis reminds me of the old Arthur C. Clarke story about the Coca Cola\nad stashed inside an experiment.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\nAgreed!  I own a Mercury Villager and I'm very impressed with the V6 and\nthe AT.  In the past, I've been biased towards manual\/standard transmissions(I owned\nan Aerostar with a 5-speed, it was awesome!), but settled with the AT in the\nVillager and have been pleasantly surprised with it's performance.\n \nBTW, Consumers Report in their report on the Villager, alluded to some\nfunny noises from the AT, I've been listening for them but haven't noticed anything\nunusual.\n \n-Chris\n\n\nChristopher J. Born","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nTry another dealer.  Sometimes the sophistication of equipment etc is\nbetter at one dealer than another.  You may also find another dealer\nwilling to help you with the problem.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I purchased 2x8 MB 72-pin (60 ns) SIMMs for my Quadra 800 from Chip\nMerchant (I've been very satisfied with them in the past).  Either one\nalone works, but both together fail.  I called Apple for advice and was\ntold that there was a problem with \"Composite\" SIMMs.  Only non-composite\nSIMMs should be used with the Q-800.  Chip Merchant confirmed that they\npresently sell only composite 72-pin SIMMs.  So, Q-800 SIMMs need to be\nboth 60 ns and non-composite.\n\nMarty Sachs\n----------------------------------------------------------------\nUSDA\/ARS & Agronomy\/UIUC    msachs@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu [internet]\nS108 Turner Hall            msachs@UIUCVMD [bitnet] \n1102 S. Goodwin Ave.        (217) 244-0864 [phone]\nUrbana, IL  61801           (217) 333-6064 [FAX]","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Add Boston's WEEI-590AM as the Bruins' flagship station. You probably won't\npick it up anywhere outside of Boston since it's only a 5,000 watt\nstation. The Bruins also have network stations in all 6 New England\nstates.\n\nThis could be the Bruins' last year on 'EEI which also happens to be an\nall-sports radio station. The problem is that the Bruins are not too happy\nbeing moved over to a different station(WMEX 1150AM) whenever there\nis a the same-night conflict with the NBA's Boston Celtics. This happened\n28 times during the course of the regular season.(The Celtics own financially\ntroubled WEEI). The Bruins might resurface on WHDH 850 next year. Stay\ntuned.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":": Hi there,\n: \n: I'm german and I have been into this MLB stuff since almost one year now.\n: There are many problems occuring for me. One of them is the ERA statistic for\n: pitchers. What does it say ??\n\nERA indicates the average number of earned runs attributed to a pitcher per\nnine inning game.  Thus, if a pitcher pitched 3 innings and gave up 1 earned\nrun, his 9 inning equivelent perfomance would be 3 earned runs, thus his ERA\nis 3.00.  To compute the ERA you simply take the number of earned runs divided\nby the innings pitched and then multiple the result by 9.\n\n\tERA = (ER\/IP) * 9\n\nAn earned run is run that is given up by the pitcher that is not attributed\nto a fielding error.  More specifically, if an error occurs that represented\nthe third out, all runs scored after the error are considered UNEARNED runs.\nEarned runs are also runs scored as a result of players who were left on base\nwhen the pitcher exited the game.  Here are some examples:\n\n\tIf there are two outs in an inning and there are men on base.  If\n\tan error occurs that represents the third out, all of the runs after\n\tthis error and NOT counted as earned runs.\n\n\tIf a pitcher issues some base on balls (walks), and leaves the game\n\tbefore the inning is completed, he is responsible for the people who\n\twere left on base.  If the those runners who were left on base score,\n\tand the score was not a result of an error, those eraned runs are\n\tattributed to the pitcher who left the game.\n\nI hope this explains things for you.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Hey, can someone clue me in on these and other weird types of amplifiers?  Just\na brief intro to the concepts behind these would be cool.  I have the clues \non type A, B, and AB already and stuff, but these other ones are mentioned \noccasionally and I dont know what they do.  I think type D is like a PWM scheme\nor something.  Thanx in advanced.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Will there be no chance to get the Author of this _REALLY_ superb program\nto remove the 'institutional' point in his license statement ?\nOr at least to say 'except educational ones' at this ?\n\nI understand that use of this software by either commercial or governmental\nusers should be result in a donation to its creator, but the everytime\nrare on money universities, schools or whatever else institutions should\nnot be restricted.\n\nIf the situation stays as is and the Author explicitely states that\nhe treats universities and schools as institutions in this context,\ni'll have to fallback to xv 2.21 here. Maybe our disk capacity will\nsoon be dead, when every user has a copy of xv-3.00 in his home dir...\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nWhy don't you ask the approx. two million British Muslims who break\nit five times a day and have never ever been prosecuted under it?\n\nThen ask how easy it is to hold a Christian church service in Saudi\nArabia.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\tI did.  Regularly.  And it was.\n\n\t\t\t\tMichael\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Without quoting at length from the preceeding post, I'd just like\nto say that I find it a much more appropriate way of dealing with\nissues like the Holocaust and Bosnia that asserting that \"God is\npunishing them.\"\n\nThe activity of God is always _redemptive_, which means \"restoring\nwhat has been lost, broken, or distorted.\"  So, God does not _will_\nthe brokenness, lostness, distortion, genocide, poverty, etc, but\nis nonetheless capable, willing, and active to restore, heal, mend,\nand redeeem.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nFrom whose point of view would you like to know what relativism concludes? \nOne of the people involved in the argument, or some third person observing\nthe arguers?\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I'm wondering if \"vandalize\" is the proper word to use in this situation.  My\ndictionary defines \"vandalism\" as \"the willful or malicious destructuion of \npublic or private property, especially of anything beautiful or artisitc.\" I\nwould agree the sky is beautiful, but not that it is public or private property.\n\nI personally prefer natural skies, far from city lights and sans aircraft.  \nHowever, there is also something to be said for being able to look up into the\nsky and see a satellite.  Many people get a real kick out of it, especially if\nthey haven't seen one before.   ","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Are there anyone who wants to sell used 386dx-33 motherboard?\nIf you have one please let me know the price and the specification\n\nI am also interested in buying Trident VGA card  (1Meg)","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I'm a Solaris 2.1 user with a classic workstation.\n\nI have compiled xfig 2.1.7 version with -DOPENWIN flag to use it with \nopenwindows, but when i run it, the program runs and runs and runs (15 minutes)\nand never is ready to work with it. The labels are not completed and i can't\npush any button.\n\nI have no problem if i does not run the openwindows but X.\n\nAny solution?\n\nThanks in advance and excuse for my english.\n--\n\n\n-------------------------------\nPedro Antonio Acebes Bayon\nE-mail: pacebes@cozuelos.tid.es","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Does anyone know any sites\/resources where I can find gadgets for the vuewm\nwindow manager?  Such as types,actions,icons for the file manager and\nevent manager...etc....\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I need to get some info. on cellular antennas.. who\nare the biggest companies in this market now? how much\ndo their antenna cost? what are the specs on the antennas\n(gain, directivity)...?  who is the contact person?\n\n\nthank-you ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"*** On 04-21-93  04:54, Mark had the unmitigated gall to say this:\n\n Ma> Does anyone know what the standard port addresses are for COM ports 5\n Ma> through 8? (If there is a standard of any sort!)\n\nThere are no standards for PC COM ports above COM2.  While there are \"de\nfacto\" standards for COM 3-4, they are not guarenteed to work.  The PS\/2 can\nuse up to 8 ports, I think, but I don't know the specs.  Good luck!\n\n... I tried to contain myself, but I escaped.\n--- Blue Wave\/QWK v2.10\n                         ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nDo we attach some meaning of the Israelites entering \"the promised land\" to \nChristianity?\n\n   I submit God did not hold the children responsible when the adults chose \nto follow the bad report of the 10 spies over Joshua and Caleb.  This is \nrecorded for us in Deuteronomy 1:39 \"Moreover your little ones, which ye said \nshould be a prey, and your children, which in that day had no knowledge \nbetween good and evil, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give \nit, and they shall possess it.\"\n\n   At least to me it seems there was\/is an age, or point in maturity where \nthey were\/are held responsible, and could not enter the \"Promised Land\", \nyounger ones were not held to the same \"rules\", at least not by God.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nIt's the DoD license plate frame; cops really like 'em.  Either that, or\nhe mistook you for one of his friends, possibly an off-duty cop.\n\n-Dave\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\t\"I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle\"\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t- Arnold Schwarzenegger, T2","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Tell *them* to stay home? :-) Sorry, terrible attempt at homour there.\n\nAlternative? Hell, I don't know. But...its perfectly possible to have\nobjections to a particular policy while feeling that there is no \n\"alternative choice\".\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n- They invented the \"how to make money on others ideas\".\n- They made money.\n- They weren't in the air at the wrong time...\n\nAdmit it BillG is a damn smart guy. How many out there can make money on \nalmost useless products...Useless even if you look at the time Dos were \nwritten..it stinked already then..\n\nIf I could choose one marketing guy in the world, I think I would choose \nhim. He's so good that almost everyone hates him, but they still use his \nstuff...\n\n\n ThomasEZ.\n\n               ' I'm not perfect, but I'm perfect for you. '","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Does anyone have a reference (something I can look up, not just your own\nrecollections -- I have a few of those myself) on the temperature of the\n(night) sky as seen from space?\n\nNote, I am *not* talking about the temperature of the Microwave Background\nRadiation.  There are more things in the sky than just the MBR; what I'm\nafter is total blackbody temperature -- what a thermal radiator would see,\ndisregarding (or shielding against) the Sun and nearby large warm objects.\nMy dim recollection is that the net effective temperature is substantially\nhigher than that of the MBR, once you figure in things like stars and the\nzodiacal light, but I'd like numbers.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nthe list as chartered is geared toward R100\/R80 GS\/PD\/ST riders,\nemphasizing the off road bikes, but there are numerous people on the\nlist with other BMW twins as well, as well as the usual contingent of\naspirants.  most all boxer talk is welcome.  the main list has about\n50 subscribers; there is also a digest version which has about 10.  we\nrun about 10 to 12 messges to day, mostly technical with little\nchatter and no flames.\n\nsubscriptions can be had via e-mail. in the text of a message, send\nthe command:\n\nSUBSCRIBE \n\nto bmw-gs-request@halfdome.sf.ca.us for the main list and\nbmw-gs-digest-request@haldfome.sf.ca.us for the digest version.  your\n\"from\" address will be used to determine where you will receive the\nmail.  \n\nit would be a shame to split boxer riders between different lists\nunless, of course, the existing list failed to meet the readers'\nneeds.\n-- \n-- bob pasker\n-- rbp@netcom.com","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nSounds like you were going to a different Penn State or something.\nKampus Krusade for Khrist is very vocal here, but they really have\nlittle power to get anything done.  Sometimes it seems like there\nare a lot of them because they're generally more vocal than their\nopposition, but there really aren't that many Krusaders.\n\nThe liberals tend to keep to themselves if they can help it, since\nall they really want is to be allowed to go about their own lives\nthe way they want to.  ...so you don't hear from or about most of\nthem.  The bible-bangers stand out because they want everyone to\nbe forced to live according to bible-banger rules.\n\nThe Krusaders certainly don't run this place.\n\nI'd say we've got a rather average mix. of people here....\nmuch like the rest of the U.S.  And just like everywhere else,\nsome factions are louder than others.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\nI'am almost ashame to ask this question. It really looks like a FAQ, but couldn't\nfind the answer. Anyway...\n\nThe original IBM-PC\/XT 83 or 84 key keyboard is, in my opinion, still the best\nkeyboard around. Function keys on the right place (eh.. left place), firm click,\netc. Is there any chance to connect one of these to a modern 386 AT clone?\n\nI do understand that the new AT keyboard has more functionality. I.e. the\ntypematic repeat rate is programmable etc. It seams to me that the pins &\nelectrical specs. of the old and the new keyboard are, however, the same. \nMaybe the communication protocol is different? \n\nPlease answer by e-mail. Also if you can tell me that is absolutely impossible.\nIn that case, i will bring the keyboard the museum of obsolete technology.\n\nThanks,\n\nDuco\n\n--","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nA placebo is an accepted treatment at times. \n\n\nWhy should it?  Placebos are effective under certain circumstances.  That's\nwhy they're used.  \n\nActually, I don't know know anyone who has actually gotten a \"sugar pill\".\nI don't know how it could be done, since prescription drugs are always\nlabeled, and it's easy enough to find out what's in a pill if you have the\nname.\n\nIt's more common to prescribe a drug which is effective for something, just\nnot for what you have.  Antibiotics for viral infections are the most\ncommon such placebo. \n\n\nI'm not sure what you mean by this.  What do you think you're paying for?\nYou're not entitled to a prescription drug just because you pay for a\ndoctor's appointment.  \n\n-- \n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\nIf true, and if gays were the same as straights except\nfor sexual preference, I would imagine that gays would\nhave much less sex than straights because the available\npool for dates is less than one-tenth what it is for\nstraights.  Somebody correct (flame) me please!","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n   How much software is out there for the Mac?  I've been interested\nin using microcontrollers in imbedded applications for a long time,\nbut was always under the impression that I would need an IBM to run\nthe debug\/compile\/etc software.\n   I would like to use a 6811 or 6816.  I'm proficient in 6800 assembly,\nbut have never NEEDED it except some toying with old 6802EVBs.\n\n   Motorola doesn't seem to have any information on Mac software (at\nleast their local distributor doesn't) and the ELE department around\nhere has been of little help as well.\n   I hope someone can tell me that I don't have to buy an IBM to \nwork with the 6811 or 6816 Evaluation Boards...please send me mail!\n\n   Andrew","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nMany spreadsheets do regression analysis.  The topic is also well covered\nin most undergraduate statistic books.  Cubic Splines are usually well\ncovered in any undergraduate computer science numerical analysis text.\nI am sure ge\/mm has a well stocked library.\n\nI have never used mathematica, but I would be surprised if it could not do a \nspline.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":": Yes, Duo prices have dropped.  I don't have the MSRP reductions,\n: (though you can find it in a recent TidBITS, archived at sumex)\n: but here's the Berkeley educational price list (old -> new)\n\n: Duo 210 4\/80        $1919 -> 1569\n: Duo 230 4\/80        $2225 -> 1961\n: Duo 230 4\/120       $2532 -> 2268\n: Duo 230 4\/120\/modem $2746 -> 2473\n\nAnd the Michigan State University pricing of the 210:\n\n  SYSTEMS-POWERBOOK DUO PORTABLE\n \n  M4161LL\/A  MAC PowerBook Duo 210 - 4M RAM\/80M HD                 1528.98\n \n  *PROMOTION* Expires: 06\/13\/93\n \n  B1304LL\/A  MAC PB Duo 210 4\/80 BUNDLE-w\/Flpy Adpt & 1.4M Drive   1636.08\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nProving once again that Brett has a major thinking problem...\n\nTwo groups that the government insure are the elderly and the \"medically an\nneedy\" (those who have impoverished themselves through spending for medical\ncare).  The typical elderly person spends 3.5 times what a person under age\n65.  The typical medically needy person spends about 10 times what the\naverage person does.\n\nYou've got to adjust those data, Brett.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nNot due to race.  Due to membership in an organization which\npublically proclaimed it would destroy the state which expelled them\n-- and furthermore kill a large segment of the citizens of that state,\nbased on race.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nGaetz won't be back. There's been rumors he was officially released right at\nthe end of the season when his contract expired, but I haven't seen\nconfirmation. It was clear from my talks with the Sharks doctors that he\nwasn't going to make it for a while, and the Sharks would have to sign him\nto a contract, which given his problems competing at the IHL level this\nspring, doesn't make sense. \n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nIf you look at the bottom of this article you will see that I have very\nkindly dug up one of Yigal Arens previous postings (entirely without his\npermission, I hope he doesn't mind) containing translations from Ha'arezt\ndetailing just such a case. Perhaps you think that Ha'arezt lies? Would\nyou like to provide me with an assurance that this practise *never* occurs?\n\n\nRight, Arabs have been voting in Israel for how long? And in all that time\nNOT ONE Arab EVER gained enough of a personal following to get his fellow\nparty members to put in a Ministry? This is about as likely as sprouting\nwings and flying to Rio. What basis do you have for explaining this odd\nfailure? You seem very confident that you are right, exactly how do you\nknow, why are you sure?\n\n\nExactly what basis do you have for saying this when the Labour party\nhas never put an Arab into a Cabinet post and insists its coalition\nmembers do the same? Why and on what basis are you reassuring me in\nthe face of 50 years of discriminatory practise?\n\n\nHey what?? As I said even when their party puts them up they get knocked\nback. It surely couldn't be because they are Arabs is it?\n\n\nWell yes, but Security is the reason most often given by people who\nwant to make excuses. I merely thought it would crop up and so\npre-empted it.\n\nStart of Article (All commets in [*....*] are mine not Dr. Arens)\n\n[Comments in square brackets are mine - Yigal]\n\n\nRacism in the Knesset\n---------------------\n\nCoalition requirements on one hand, and the presence of progressive MKs\nfrom _Meretz_ in the coalition on the other, have compelled Rabin and\nhis friends to change, to some extent, their attitude towards the Arab\npublic and their representatives in the Knesset.  Although he did refuse\nto view them as partners, taking part in the coalition and joining the\ngovernment, he did agree to meet with them and to give them a document\nof intentions which included a commitment to \"work towards a decrease in\nthe discrimination between Jewish and Arab citizens\".  [Decrease WHAT?!?!\nBut posters have told us time and again that such discrimination does\nnot exist *at* *all*!  Is Rabin, too, a closet self-hater??? - Yigal].\n\nHowever, racism has not disappeared.  When the Knesset sat to consider\nwho would staff its various committees, a request was made to put an MK\nfrom Hadash [the Communist party, one of the \"Arab\" parties - Yigal] on\nthe State Comptroller's Committee.  And oh, did that ever stir up a\nstorm -- including in the ranks of Labor -- since many Knesset members\nfind it unthinkable that an Arab MK sit on one of the important house\ncommittees.  \"Security secrets\" are liable to fall into their hands...\n\nThis attitude -- which until recently had not even aroused criticism,\nbeing so natural and so deeply-embossed upon people's hearts -- holds\nthat there are Knesset members who, despite having been elected by tens\nof thousands of votes, are not entitled to be full partners in the body\nwhich represents the people of Israel.  We are not speaking here of\npolitical discrimination -- which would be bad enough in itself -- but\nof racial discrimination.  The proof: one of the compromises proposed\nwas that MK Mahamid [an Arab - Yigal] should be replaced by Tamar\nGojanski [a Jew - Yigal] from the same party.  It was not the member's\nparty which was considered unfit, but his race...\n\n[* Here is a documented case in a respected Israeli newspaper. *]\n\nIt is worth noting that for the first time since the state's founding, a\npublic debate has arisen on this subject, as witness the following\narticle:\n\n\nA TEST OF SELF-CONFIDENCE\n\nBy Gid'on Levi, Ha'aretz, July 26, 1992\n\nRevelations of discrimination against Arabs have become such an integral\npart of our daily routine that there is not much effort made to deal\nwith them.  [Do you hear that, -----?  Please contact this Levi fellow\nand explain to him how little he knows about Israel.  Please! - Yigal].\nExcept that sometimes the demon bursts out from behind the government's\nwindow dressing, and then the phenomenon is seven times more serious.\n\nLast week provided two more such examples: the Israeli Knesset is\nfinding it very difficult to allow Arab representation on its more\nimportant committees; and Israel Television is finding it no less\ndifficult to give a platform to Arabs from the territories.  Seemingly\ntwo entirely different matters, but in fact they are one and the same.\n\nThe 13th Knesset proved last week that, even though one third of its\nmembers are new faces, it has not renewed its own face at all, at least\non one issue.  Parliamentary traditions may be modernized and\nparliamentary traditions may become obsolete, and only one tradition\nendures forever: no Arab shall set foot in the more important committees\nof the house.  There has never been and never will be an Arab MK on the\nExternal Affairs and Defense Committee or on the Finance Committee.\nWorlds have been overturned over the question of whether or not \"to\ngive\" Arabs, for the first time, a place on the State Comptroller's\nCommittee.\n\nThe arguments are old and well-known: In all three of the above\ncommittees innumerable secrets are revealed -- and woe unto us if an\nArab should hear them.  One must not make light of such arguments, but\ntheir significance should also not be exaggerated.  Every Arab MK is not\nspending all his time waiting for the opportune moment to hand over\ninformation from the Knesset committee room to Black Panther\nheadquarters in Jenin; and not all the aforementioned committees are\ncontinually occupied in the discussion of top-secret matters, which\ncould safely be revealed, for example, to MKs supportive of the Jewish\nUnderground, but not to an Arab MK from the Likud, Labor, or even from\nHadash.\n\nThe Arabs themselves would probably forego membership in the Subcommittee\non Secret Service Matters, but what would happen, one may ask, if MK\nNawaf Masalha were to hear, God forbid, a review of the Foreign Minister\nin an open meeting of the Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, or even\na review of the Army Chief of Staff which, in any case, are regularly\nleaked to the next edition of the news.  And what would happen if MK\nHashem Mahamid were to report on what he had seen with his own eyes at\nal-Najah?\n\nTheir non-participation [in important committees] and that of their\ncolleagues, creates an intolerable situation, where Arab members of the\nelected house have only semi-positions.  They are good enough for\naddressing plenary sessions, and for voting for or against the\ngovernment and participating in the deliberations of the Immigration and\nAbsorption Committee.  But they must not, for example, participate in\nthe process of formulating the state budget in the Finance Committee or\nin the allocation of resources to local authorities.  In any case, they\nhave little part in that.\n\nLabor's dependence on the support of the Arab parties has brought about\nsome improvement: MK Hashem Mahamid, will, it seems, participate in the\nState Comptroller's Committee.  Earlier, there had been a ridiculous\nattempt made to dictate to Hadash who their representative should be,\nand thus to prevent the Arab from entering this dubious holy-of-holies,\nbut it soon became clear that there was no legal or constitutional\nbacking for such a step.\n\nBut not to worry: even now the Jewish mind is contriving devices.  The\nnew Committee Chair, Roni Milo, has already announced that he will set up\nsubcommittees aplenty for his committee.  Thus he will decide where it\nis permissible for Mahamid to participate and where not.  A solution\nsuch as this could, by the way, also have been adopted for the rest of\nthe committees, thereby completely eliminating the fear of state secrets\nbeing leaked to the enemy and removing the stain of discrimination from\nthe Knesset.\n\n[. . .]\n\nEnd Article\n\nDo you accept that as documentation?\n\nJoseph Askew\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nI was at an Adobe seminar\/conference\/propaganda forum\/whatever-you-want-to-\ncall-it a couple months ago where they announced that Display Postscript was\ngoing to be included in the next release of Sun's OS, (presumably Solaris.)\nSun was going to drop their development of Newsprint, and, in return for this,\nAdobe was going to port Illustrator and Photoshop to Sun.  Other than the\narticles that appeared in the trade journals immediately after, I haven't\nheard a peep about it.  I hope it's still in the works.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI can produce similar artifacts.\n\nI am using a Centris 610 with an Apple 16\" monitor.  I got the 8\/230\/CD\nconfiguration, so there is on-board ethernet and 1 Megabyte of video ram.\nThe effect only occurs in 256 color and 256 grey modes.  Any vertical scrolling operation, whether with a scrollbar or, say, using vi and inserting lines,\nwill produce a scattering of horizontal flickering lines on the screen.\nThey do not persist -- each is visible for perhaps one refresh, and then\nthat part of the screen is back as usual.\n\nThey seem to always start at or about the 64th pixel from the left,\nand are maybe 512 pixels wide.  This is certainly not preventing me from\nusing my Macintosh ;-), but it does seem to be a sign of something\nperhaps grounded incorrectly in the video circuitry...\n\n\nI went ahead and called the Apple Customer Assistance Center, at:\n  1-800-776-2333, or 1-800-767-2775 (more direct?)\n\nThe person who answered was polite :-).  I also took the chance to complain\nabout my mouse button sticking, and about the mac hanging on boot after a\n(hard - killed MacsBug) crash which left a CD in the drive.  (I had to play\nwith a paperclip for about 5 minutes to get thing to eject, after which the\nmac booted fine.)","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Could anyone please explain what Bit Planes are?  We have an SGI here at work \nthat says it has 64 Bit Planes - what does this mean?  How does this relate to \nPC graphics?  What do they usually have?  Please reply via Email as most of \nthis group is over my head.  \n\nThanks in advance!!! \n\nBob Gruen ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
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{"text":"HP 9872B 4 pen plotter.\t\t\t\t\t\t\t$150\nFujistu M2451E 130 meg SCSI tape drive\t\t\t\t\t$150\nSony 40 meg SCSI disk drive (sticks once in a while)\t\t\t$50\nDead Maxtor XT4380E 338 meg ESDI drive\t\t\t\t\t$100\nDead Miniscribe 20 meg SCSI drive\t\t\t\t\t$10\nAdaptac SCSI to ST-412 interface board\t\t\t\t\t$20\nDaughter boards from tape drives ?QIC-02 - QIC-36?\t\t\t$20\nTwist Terms (VT100 terms that the head twists on for 80x25 or 80x72) \t$150\n14\" Analog RGB color monitor (15.7 Khz works nice with amiga's)\t\t$100\nSpool with 90+ feet of 50 conductor ribbon cable\t\t\t$75\n\nAll prices are or best offer.  Prices do not include UPS shipping.  All items\nworking except those stated as Dead.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Does anyone out there know how to add an additional internal hard-drive\nto a mac IIsi. NOT to replace the already existing hardrive! I was\nthink of hooking to internal drive together or any other ways to add\ninternal harddrive beside replacement. I just don't wanadd an\nexternal harddrive. I'm open to any suggestions..please response to\nthe address below. thanks","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Hi, can anyone tell me what Microsoft BBS number is ? I tried the one\nthat is given on the DOS 6 upgrade manual but that number never\nanswered the call ...","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Perhaphs what Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are now is the result of the\nnatural evolution of a \"successful\" hacker.  Either you make money, go\nto jail (Lee Feldenstein [sp?]), or just fade away as \"Oh, that's uncle\nso-and-so who *really* likes computers...\".\n\nWhat a \"computer hacker\" is and does will change as long as the definition\nof the word \"computer\" continues to change.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nThat is indeed the present consensus.  Contrary to what Dr. Fox has\nbeen saying, however, present consensus is *not* that the longer\npassage in Josephus about Jesus was inserted, but only that it was\nmodified.\n   There is no question that it was *at least* modified (based on what\nOrigen says--that Josephus did not recognize Jesus as the Messiah), but\nI don't think the argument that it appears \"out of context\" is a very\ngood one.  (I haven't looked at the context for a while; perhaps somebody\ncould give some of the sentences which precede and follow the Jesus\npassage.)","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Not sure of this but I think some millipedes cause a toxic reaction (sting?\nSo I would not assume that they are not dangerous merely on the basis of \nvegetarianism, after all wasps are vegetarian too.\ndnc.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\nIt wasn't Jesus who changed the rules of the game (see quote above),\nit was Paul.\n\nCheers,\nKent\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":" \n\n\n\n\nWait a minute.  If I read the rules right. A stike is ANY portion of the ball \nover ANY portion of the plate.\n\n\nGiven that the ball is ~ 2.9 \"\" in diameter.  This sez that the zone width\nis ~= 17 + (2 * 2.9)  or 22.8 \"\" . While this is still less than the 23 \"\nnumber given.  I can forgive any UMP for misjudging .2\" on an object moving\nat 85 to 100 miles per hour many times not in a straight line.\n\nI think the Umpires Union has a great grasp of the rules!!!\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nClose, but there's a number 3 also:\n\n3. have entered the game with no more than a 3 run lead and pitched\n   at least one inning.\n\nIf a pitcher finishes a game which his team has won, does not get the win,\nand satisfies at least one of the three requirements, he gets a save.\n\n-Rusty\n-- ","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I have a PB 100 that I might be selling soon to upgrade to a Duo before\ngraduation, to take advantage of the educational discount.  To those who\nhave recently bought or sold a PB 100, what kind of price did you get?\nInfo on any config of PB100 appreciated.  Thanks.\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
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{"text":"\n\tGreetings. There are 3 types of warnings on (US) tapes:\n\n\t1) A hologram is glued across the seam of the 2 halves of the\n\t   tape. The message usually reads, \"If seal is broken, you must\n\t   buy this tape\"\n\n\t2) The standard \"MacroVision\" warning, \"Copies of this tape will\n\t   be unviewable\"\n\n\t3) [your case] Extended message for the Average Consumer (tm) which\n\t   states that even attempting to copy the tape will destroy the\n\t   original. I don't believe you can sue them for misinformation\n\t   in cases like this :-)\n\n\tTake care.\n\n\tP.S. Of course, #3 is utter BS - but the Average Consumer (tm)\n\t     believes it. Heck, my mom once returned such a tape without\n\t     watching it... she was afraid that something might just \n\t     happen :-)","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nHey!  What's this Hudson crap?\nActually, the only place my car has ever been broken into was in Hudson\nat my in-laws (in their driveway).  Took my Vuarnets and some change.\nDamn kids.\n\nRegards,\n\nBrian\n\nbqueiser@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu\n------------------------------------------------------------------------\nI am the engineer, I can choose K.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
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{"text":"Forgive me, but just the other day I read on some newsgroup or other a\nphysician's posting about the theraputic uses of vitamin B6.  I can't\nseem to locate the article, but I recall there was mention of some safe\nlimits.\n\nI looked at a \"Balanced 100\" time release formulation from Walgreen's\nand noted that the 100 mg of B6 was some thousands times the RDA.  Is\nthis safe?!?.\n\nAlso what was the condition that B6 was theraputic for?\n\nMail would be just fine if you don't want to clog the net.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"#> Ah, ending discrimination is now fascism. \n\n#When you force people to associate with others against their will,\n#yes.\n\nEarth to Clayton, the topic under discussion was the US military, an\nall volunteer force.\n\nI realize you can't stop your knee jerking, but at least use half a\nclue. \n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nI have several questions:\n\n1) What do I gain with this new BIOS?\n\n2) How can I save a copy of my old BIOS in case I want to go back?\n\n3) How do I install the new BIOS?\n\nI'd like to enjoy, but need answers first.\n\nThanks\n\n\n-- ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Two Jack LaLlane GOLD memberships are for sale by the owners.\nAsking for $600 for each membership. \n\nPlease contact Padma & Srini at (908) 855-8865 for details.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Does anyone know if either theophylline or ephedrine, or the two in\ncombination, can reduce the body's ability to make use of \navailable water?  I had kind of an odd experience on a group hike\nrecently, becoming dehyrated after about 9 hours of rigorous\nhiking despite having brought 1 1\/2 gallons of water (c. 6 liters).\nI drank close to twice as much as anyone else, and no one else was\ndehydrated.  I don't think general physical condition was an issue,\nsince I was in at least the middle of the pack in terms of general\nstamina, so far as I could tell.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Hello, I've been following discussions on 17\" monitors in \ncomp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware and noted that the Nanao seems to get very good\nreviews.  I'm interested in getting more information about Nanao's products\nas well as some others that may fit the bill.   \n\nI would like a monitor that can handle high resolutions like 1024x1024 NI.\nI'm envisioning using this monitor on an Amiga 4000 or Amiga 2000 w\/a graphics\nboard like the Retina, and\/or on a Sun like the SPARCstation LX.  Basically\nI want a high resolution versital monitor.  This monitor need not be large\n(=>17\") if it meets the brief requirements as outlined above.  I've been\nvery happy with a 16\" on Suns and could probably cope with smaller at home.\n\nI'm interested if anyone has more details on high quality Sony and Hitatchi\nmonitors since they seem to be used on Sun's fairly often and look pretty\ngood (to me at least).  I haven't seem them brought up in c.s.i.p.h very\noften as are Mag and Viewsonic.\n\nOk, stuff I'd like to find out:  How can I get ahold of Nanao?  What are\nthe products in their line?  What are the technical specs?  Esp. what\nscan freq and max resolutions can they handle?  What's list and street\ncost - if avail. from a third party, and where can I get ahold of them? \nSame info for Sony and Hitatchi.\n\nThank you very much!! \n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nWell, yes.  This is the real mystery of the matter, and why I am rather\ndubious of a lot of the source theories.\n\nThere are a number of places where the Masoretic Text (MT) of the OT is\nobscure and presumably corrupted.  These are reproduced exactly from copy to\ncopy.  The DSS tend to reflect the same \"errors\".  This would appear to tell\nus that, at least from some point, people began to copy the texts very\nexactingly and mechanically.  The problem is, we don't know what they did\nbefore that.  But it seems as though accurate transmission begins at the\npoint at which the texts are perceived as texts.  They may be added to (and\nin some situations, such as the end of Mark, material is lost), but for the\nmost part there are no substantial changes to the existing text.\n\nYou're basically trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.  Some people\nlike to use the game of \"telephone\" as a metaphor for the transmission of\nthe texts.  This clearly wrong.  The texts are transmitted accurately.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\n   I have a Diamond Stealth VRAM card (the older version\nwith the DIP switches on the back).  I have two problems:\n\n1 ) I've lost the manual!!!\n\n2 ) I have it in a machine with a network card, and\n    everything works fine until I run windows, when\n    the network connection dies.\n\n    (In case it's important, the network card is an\n     SMC ArcNet 8-Bit compatable card.  It's I\/O\n     address is 02E0 and it's RAM base address is\n     D000.  It's also using IRQ 2)\n\n\n    I believe there is a file on the Diamond Bboard that\nexplains how to sort this out, but with no manual, I don't\nknow the Bboard number.\n\n    If you can, please help me with as many of the following\nas possible:\n\na ) Send me the Diamond BBS number\nb ) E-mail (or post) the DIP switch settings for the card\n    (or fax them to me at (412) 521-8668)\nc ) Tell me what I'm doing wrong, so I can magicly get\n    everything working.\n\n    Any help at all would be much appreciated.\n\n                Thanks in advance,","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Hi there,\n\nI am here looking for some help.\n\nMy friend is a interior decor designer. He is from Thailand. He is\ntrying to find some graphics software on PC. Any suggestion on which\nsoftware to buy,where to buy and how much it costs ? He likes the most\nsophisticated \nsoftware(the more features it has,the better)","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I was wondering if what many of you did to accelerate your IIsi's from\n20 MHz to 25 Mhz (and beyond) can be done to a IIci (ie. from 25 MHz to\n32-33 Mhz)?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"What is the reason for the push on clipper?\n\nTwo days after the lead story here in the Mercury Times (murky news)\nthere was another article on industrial espionage by the french.\n\nSomeone had said what can it hurt to allow the government to have\ncontinued access to our communications, they already have it.  The\nproblem is that, yes the do have access, and probably more than\nwe realize.  The government wants exclusive access to communications\nintercept here in the united states, cutting out other access detrimental\nto the national security (tm).\n\nI also doubt that a certain3 letter agency, that originated the encryption\nalgorithm and the chip designs needs to have anything to do with the \nescrow system to continue their intercept effort.  ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nI was at that game, behind home plate next to a scout who was manning the \nradar gun.  The 1991 season was winding down and Roger didn't have his \nbest fastball, topping out at 88-90 (in contrast to Frank Tanana, who went \nas low as 50 with one lollipop in the process of striking out Phil \nPlantier *five* times on the night).  Inky's shot would have gone further\nthan any I've ever seen if it hadn't crashed *into* the lights (not the \nlightstand) as you say over 100 feet high, Roy Hobbs-like, and bounced \nback onto the field.  That had to have been a 525-footer if unobstructed,\nedging out Bo Jackson's drive off Oil Can Boyd to the top of the\ncenterfield bleacher back wall in 1988 for the best I've seen personally \n(I was sitting under that one). \n\n---\nGlenn Waugaman\nDigital Equipment Corporation\nLittleton, MA\ng_waugaman@nac.enet.dec.com","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nThe first step is to make sure that there is no DC component, intentional\nor not, on the audio lines to be switched. If neither the output or\ninput presents an unintentional DC level (let's say they're capacitively\ncoupled), then putting a 22 K resistor from each input to ground, and\nfrom the output to ground is a good precaution against leakage in any\ncoupling caps presenting a DC level that is GUARANTEED to cause a click.\n\nIf the device presents an unintentional DC level that is from more than\njust coupling capacitor leakage, then you need to remove the DC before\nswitching with coupling capacitors of your own.\n\nIf you have more than one relay (each relay switching one input\nthrough to a common output), you can use make-before-break switching\nwhere for a brief instant both sources are connected during a switch\nchange. This may mask the switch click.\n\nAn audio switch that is clickless is made by taking a light bulb and\nmaking your own ersatz opto-isolator with a light-dependent resistor (LDR)\nsealed inside a piece of black heatshrink. Many broadcast consoles\nuse this older, but time-honored technique. Claro actually makes\na complete optisolator like this, but I don't have a part number handy.\nRadio Shack has a LDR grab-bag (276-1657) you might want to try.\n\nFor a simple, solid state clickless switch that is cheap, you might try \nlooking at the CD4066 analog switch that is commonly available (or its\nolder predecessor, the 4016). Again, the DC component must be removed\nprior to switching. Other alternatives include JFET switches (both discrete\nand IC) and diode switching (which works relatively well, surprisingly).\nAll the above, with their pitfalls and application tips could easily\nmake a subject for a multi-page article.\n\nSolid state switches may induce a click of their own when turned on\ndue to charge being injected into the audio line through device\ncapacitance when the control signal changes state. Techniques to\nminimize this include lowering the impedance of the signal paths through\nthe switch, differential switching, and slowing the risetime of the\ncontrol pulse. With the 4016, cutting the click can be as simple as\nputting 10K - 47K resistors in series with the control pins.\n\nHope this helps at least get you started.\n\n-- \n--------------------------------------------------------------------\n       Dave Medin\t\t\tPhone:\t(205) 730-3169 (w)\n    SSD--Networking\t\t\t\t(205) 837-1174 (h)\n    Intergraph Corp.\n       M\/S GD3004 \t\tInternet: dtmedin@catbyte.b30.ingr.com\n  Huntsville, AL 35894\t\tUUCP:  ...uunet!ingr!b30!catbyte!dtmedin\n\n   ******* Everywhere You Look (at least around my office) *******","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"We where following version of xv and I have been very surprise to discover that\nthe new version is a shareware: What a pitty !!! :-( .\nWhat I found on the Inthernet was the freeware. I make myself a freeware and\nI spent long time on it but I don't plain to make paid to use it. I think\nif evrybody spent some time to make freeware, evrybody will be paid by the use\nof other freeware.\n\nHere we will stay with XV 2 and drop XV 3.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n[Partial deletion]\n\nNice explanation except that it isn't N-hydroxylation that causes the\nformation of the N-acetyl-p-benzoquinone imine (NAPQI), but rather a\ndirect two-electron oxidation. In addition, there is one school of thought\nthat contends that oxidative stress rather than arylation of protein\nis the more critical factor in the hapatotoxcity of acetaminophen.  \n\nAs far as drug toxicities go, acetaminophen has and continues to be one\nof the most intensely scrutinized. An excellent recent review of the topic\ncan be found in: \n\n\tVermeulen, Bessems and Van de Straat. \t\n\tMolecular Aspects of Paracetamol-induced hepatotoxicity and its\n\tMechanism-Based Prevention. Drug Metabolism Reviews, 24(3) 367-\n\t407 (1992).\n\n\t(Acetaminophen is known as paracetamol in Europe)\n\nI couldn't agree with you more about what an awful way to die a toxic\ndose of acetaminophen causes.  I've heard a number of descriptions by\nphysicians associated with poison control centers, and they describe a\nlingering very painful death. ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\t\n\n\tHey, Bosio threw a no-no what the hell a Red Sox fan\ngoing to say to that. Heck...Remeber Matt Young last year? ICK..","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"[...]\n\nActually, according to the DA information posted by Sherri, Boggs is superior\ndefensively to have.  Here's their Defensive Averages for the last five\nyears: [compared to average at 3b, AL]\n\n            1988        1989        1990        1991        1992\nBoggs     .643[+2]    .659[+47]   .550[-54]   .653[+33]   .634[+32]\nHayes     -------     .601[-40]   .622[+18]   .606[-14]   .574[-28]\n\nIf Hayes is a defensive standout at third, he's done a good job in disguising\nit.  To put it another way, compared to an average third baseman last year:\n\nBoggs converted 11 more grounders into outs, turned 2 more double plays, and\nprevented 11 doubles.\n\nHayes let 12 more grounders go by for hits, turned 6 more double plays, and\nprevented 4 doubles.\n-- \nDale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"TO: menon@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Ravi or Deantha Menon)\n\n\nRO> First off, use some decent terms if ya don't mind.  This is sci.med, not\nRO> alt.sex.\n\nWould you like to rephrase that?\n  ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Can someone who knows what they're talking about add a FAQ entry\non gamma correction?  Thanks.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I friend of mine installed dos6 at work and is hooked up to a Novell\nnetwork, running Netware 386 v.3.11.  The problem he's having is that the\ndoublespace program is using drive 'h' as the swap drive, which is\nconfliting with the networks mapped drives.\n\nIs there switch to place the swap drive to someother drive?\nPlease e-mail....thanks a bunch!!","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"See, I told you there was an atheist mythology, thanks for proving my\npoint.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n  <Endless remarks of how the Davidians could have surrendered deleted.>\n \n\n  If they had been quiet there would have been no deaths??  I thought thier\nneighbors said that the Davidians never bothered them.  Oh, well, that couldn't\nhave been your point, then.  \n\n  If they hadn't been stockpiling weapons, then the ATF wouldn't have felt \nthreatened and had to move in.  Here's a newsflash:  It isn't illegal to\nown more than one firearm.  It isn't even illegal to own *lots* of firearms.\n \n  They shot federales?  The feds shot them, too.  \n\n  How about that staying inside thing?  Here's another newsflash:  sometimes\nthe government does nasty things to you that you don't deserve.  Since\nthey were so nice to the Davidians the first time round, I can see why\nthe Davidians didn't surrender so easily, especially because they were\nexpecting the end of the world.\n\n-- \nAndrew Diederich                    diederic@spot.colorado.edu","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"In the newer versions of Norton Backup for Windows (2.0 at least)\nthere is an \"emergency\" disk, which will allow you to restore\nfrom tape without reinstalling DOS\/Windows (I understand it's sort\nof cumbersome to use, but not nearly as much as reinstalling\neverything!)\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nIt isn't.   It's usually treated as being about as reliable as\nany other single, uncorroborated source of information about\na person for whom there is no other evidence.\n\n\nWhat do you mean when you say it contains mirables.    I just\nopened mine and not a damned thing happened.   Is there some\nspecial way to do this?","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nSorry that's an aesthetics argument.  maybe this string shoudl mofe to\nsci.space.aesthetics.\n\nPlanes  ruin the night sky.  Blimps ruin the night sky.  Radio towers\nruin the night sky.  ","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Due to a number of bugs in GKS4.1 under SUNOS 4.1.3, I installed\npatches 100533-15 and 100755-01. Patch 100533-15 appears to\nwork fine and has fixed a number of problems. Patch 100755-01,\nhowever, which is required to fix a number of other annoying\nbugs, breaks with our applications.\n\nIs there a more recent revision of patch 10075?\n\nAny other ideas?","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\nThanks to the people who helped me with the problem of\ndisplaying 24 bit images. All the viewers like xli,\nxloadimage and display are converting the 24 bit images\nto 8 bit before display them on the screen.\n\nWhat I really want is a viewer with make use of the 24 bit\nframe\/screen buffer (in our case, the Parallax one).\n\nThanks in advance.\n\nGilles","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"isaackuo@skippy.berkeley.edu (Isaac Kuo) states in reply to deleted\narticle about no-knock searches, arrests\n\n\n\nIn general no-knock raids are to preserve evidence, like drugs,\nwhich can be flushed down the toilet.  They are not the standard way\nto arrest a violent felon like a bank robber.  If there is no need to\nsearch or preserve evidence they will just surround the dwelling and\norder the suspect to come out with her hands up.  If the suspect does\nnot come out tear gas will be used.\n\n\ncomment on the BD omitted\n\n\n\nIt is not a method to apprehend criminals.\n\n\nIt is a very dangerous method to obtain evidence that might be\ndestroyed if a warrant is served in the normal way.  It is the most\ndangerous way to arrest anyone.  The cops are charging into a room\nand they don't know what is in it.  It is much safer to surround the\nplace and announce yourself.\n\n\n\nCops are not cops _until_ they identify themselves as police officers.\n\n\nMost drug dealers and professional criminals are aware of the\nlikelihood of arrest but they also know how the system works.  If they\nare arrested they call their lawyer, post bail and hope for a plea\nbargain.  If they pull a gun and shoot a cop during a raid they will\nbe charged with first degree murder if they survive the raid.  Drug\ndealers have guns for protection from their customers and other\ncriminals, not to shoot cops.  Cops are shot on no-knock drug raids\nbecause the criminals aren't aware that they are cops.\n\nNo-knock raids on homes occupied by non-criminals are more likely to\nend in disaster.  Mom and Pop citizen _KNOW_ that they have not\ncommitted any crime, they KNOW that anyone breaking into their house\ncannot be a cop because they have done nothing wrong.  If they have\nthe means to defend themselves they may because they KNOW that the\nhousebreakers are criminals not cops.  Cops and homeowners may die.\n\nThe first reports from Waco stated that the ATF had a warrant to\nsearch for illegal weapons and also an arrest warrant if the illegal\nweapons were found.  In this case the no-knock warrant was not called\nfor.  It is difficult to flush a gun down the toilet.  The ATF could\nhave surrounded the compound.  A marked police car could have driven\nup to the entrance and uniformed officers could have knocked and\nserved the warrant usual way.  It this had happened and and Koresh\nrefused the warrant or drove the cops off at gun point then most of\nthe t.p.g folks would have kept quiet.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"This Summer I'm going to use my vacation drivin (riding)\nthrough the States.\nAnd I do Have some questions that I would like to post here::\nSince I'm from Norway I was wondering\nHow much does it cost to rent a Bike in the States?\n\n(I'm Probarly going to the San Fransisco\/San Jose area\nthe ride around (I'think))\n\nAs you might have noticed I still haven't made any plans\nso if you know about places I ought to visit \nPlease e-mail me...","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nWhich statement is dead wrong, because our local posters have confirmed that \nit was quite chilly that morning.\n\n\nNo, we argue that it was not entirely unreasonable for a woodstove to be \noperational.\n\n\nObviously you missed my earlier posting about the physica of woodstoves.\nIn brief, you can't turn your woodstove on and off like your gas range.\nIt stays on all the time.  It even stays \"on\" for over 24 hours AFTER you\nshut it off (which is why most working woodstoves aren't ever \"shut off\"\nuntil spring).\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nWhich translates to 7% not satisfied.  I don't think it's the awkward \nrecursive deletion that's bugging people, it certainly isn't the nice Windows \ninterfaces for new DOS accessories (CPAV, defrager, undelete).\n\n\tAs far as I've noticed, it's DoubleSpace crashes.\n\nFrankly, the fairly high rates of DoubleSpace crashes I've heard of surprises \nme!  I figured that since the OS is presumably aware of DoubleSpace, it is \nless likely to crash (unlike Stacker, which fools the OS... but DO is gullible \nanyway :).  DOS 6 _is_ aware of DoubleSpace isn't it?\n\nAnyway, good job on DOS 5, and DOS 6 is good for new users.  Just beware the \ndoublespace!\n\nRob\n\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nRmohns@vax.clarku.edu |  Rob Mohns  |  Annoy Rush Limbaugh.  Think for yourself.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"About three weeks ago on the SPACE list, someone was quoting a source on the\nrelative traffic and rankings of this listserv.  A figure of 88th in\ntraffic(?) was given.  Unfortunately I did not clip the message and I would\nlike to know the source of the rankings list.  If anybody still has that\ndiscussion on their disk or knows the source (or is the poster himself!)\nI'd appreciate getting that reference.  Being on the road I have temporarily\nunsubscribed to the list to cut down mail box stuffing <g> so please reply\nvia e-mail to lek@aip.org OR 71160.2356@compuserve.com or I won't get your\nanswer!","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\nI am interested to hear from people working in the field of visual\nsimulation, ie driving simulation, flight simulation etc.\nWould be very pleased to see, what is going on in the field of research\nand industrial development.\n\nFor those of you interested as well: There is a workshop (preferedly \nheld in German), situated in Wuppertal, November 18\/19 1993, specially\nrelated to the above topic.\nThe title:\n\n\"Sichtsysteme - Visualisierung in der Simulationstechnik\"\n\nComplete details are available. Please contact me.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"ielding RF of all time, as far\ncomparable\nyou\nhas\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I am not a company, thus this is not a commercial sale.  \n\nI purchased 256 T-shirts last fall for a fund raiser that fell through. \nWe didn't have the time to sell the shirts.  I have about 175 shirts\nleft and I am willing to sell them to you for $5.25 a piece (more than a\ndollar discount of what you would have paid the supplier for the shirts,\neven in bulk)  (That's $918.75 for 175 shirts)  These shirts are Jim\nMorris T-shirts.  They are all 100% cotton and most have more than 4\ncolors.  (They are clean and neatly folded in a box.  If any happen to\nbe damaged I will refund your money for each damaged shirt or replace\nit, your option.)  You could sell them for at least $8 to $15 a piece\n(the higher number is for the nicer shirts) to raise money for a school\nevent or a organization.  I realize it is a big investment, but it could\npay off big.\n\nI would be willing to sell the shirts in lots of 50 but only at $5.50 a\nshirt.  I will pay shipping, but prefer local buyers and will give them\nmore bargaining power.\n\nPlease help me.  I do not have the time to sell these shirts and I need\nthe money.  I am taking a big loss by selling this cheap.  I will give\nyou Jim Morris' phone number so that you can varify the prices.\n\nAll prices are negotiable.\n\n--Truman","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n  > OK, I should have read the thread before posting my own $0.02.  I would\n  > just add to Phil's very infomative discussion the following caveat: the\n  > fifth amendment applies ONLY in crinial cases.  (\"...nor shall any person .\n  > . . be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself...\").\n\n    Maybe you are using the wrong amendment.  If someone were to seize\na safe containing your (paper) records, and demand that you produce\nthe combination, the applicable defense would be on grounds of\nunreasonable search and seizure.  The police would be entitled to\nsubpoena documents relating to a specific matter, but any broad search\nsuch as implied by impounding all your records would be unconstitutional.\nIn the case of the safe, they would probably get a locksmith and\nassert that they ONLY examined documents covered by the warrent.\n(Sure!)  In the cryptographic case, their only resort would be\nrubber-hose cryptography.\n\n    (This would also make a good \"mental experiment\" to use in\nchoosing escrow agents.  Would you trust this proposed agent with a\nkey to your hard disk?--or half the key for that matter.)\n\n--\n\n\t\t\t\t\tRobert I. Eachus","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nSorry, I put my foot in my mouth, concerning the church's history.\nIt is correct to say that the Council of Hippo 393 listed the \ndeuterocanonical books among those accepted for use in the\nchurch, and that this was ratified by the Council of Carthage,\nand by Pope Innoent I and Gelasius I (414 AD).\n\n\n\"At the end of the fourth century views still differed in regard to\nthe extent of the canon, or the number of the books which should\nbe acknowledged as divine and authoritative.\n\n   The Jewish canon, or the Hebrew bible, was universally \nreceived, while the Apocrypha added to the Greek version\nof the Septuagint were only in a general way accounted as books\nsuitable for church reading, and thus as a middle class between\ncanonical and strictly apocryphal (pseudonymous) writings.\nAnd justly; for those books, while they have great historical\nvalue, and fill the gap between the Old Testament and the New,\nall originated after the cessation of prophecy, and the cannot\nbe therefore regarded as inspired, nor are they ever cited\nby Christ or the aposteles.\"\n\n\"In the Western church the canon of both Testaments was closed\nat the end of the fourth century through the authority of\nJerome (who wavered, however, between critical doubts and the\nprinciple of tradition), and more especially of Augustine,\nwho firmly followed the Alexandrian canon of the Septuagint,\nand the preponderant tradition in reference to the Catholic\nEpistles and the Revelation; though he himself, in some\nplaces, inclines to consider the Old Testament Apocrypha\nas *deutero* canonical, bearing a subordinate authority.\"\n\nThis history goes on to say that Augustine attended both the\nCouncil of Hippo and of Carthage.\n\nIt is interesting to note, however, the following footnote to\nthe fourth session of the Council of Trent.  The footnote \nlists various Synods which endorsed lists of canonical \nbooks, but then says \"The Tridentine list or decree was the\nfirst *infallible* and effectually promulgated declaration\non the Canon of the Holy Scriptures.\"\n\nWhich leads one to think that the RC canon was not official\nuntil Trent.  Thus my previous erroneous statement was\nnot entirely groundless.\n\nIt is also interesting to note that the Council of Trent\nwent on to uphold \"the old Latin Vulgate Edition\" of \nthe Scriptures as authentic.  Which, I would suppose, \ntoday's Catholic scholars wish the Council had never said.\nAlso the council made no distinction between deutero-canonical\nand canonical books--in contrast to (Eerdman's statement of) the\nfourth century views.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nOh no, not again.\n\nThere is a difference between believing that God exists, and loving him.\n(For instance, Satan certainly believes God exists, but does not love him.)\nWhat unbelievers request in situations like this is that God provide evidence\ncompelling enough to believe he exists, not to compel them to love him.\n--\n\"On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Leftover Turkey!\nOn the second day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Turkey Casserole\n    that she made from Leftover Turkey.\n[days 3-4 deleted] ...  Flaming Turkey Wings! ...\n   -- Pizza Hut commercial (and M*tlu\/A*gic bait)","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"On one of the morning shows (I think is was the Today Show), David Koresh's\nlawyer was interviewed. During that interview he flipped through some letters\nthat David Koresh wrote. On one of letters was written in Hebrew (near the\nbottom of the page):\n\n  koresh adonai","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\tOr a Caps fan residing in Atlanta, where they DONT EVEN TELL\nTHE F&@(*@CKING PLAYOFF SCORES ON THE NEWS!!!!!\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Yeah, that about sums it up...\n\nlooking for a place that sells diffraction grating goggles in quantity...","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"1990 Mazda MX-6\n\t5-spd\n\ta\/c\n\tam\/fm cassette\n\tcruise\n\ttilt steering\n\twhite w\/ burgundy interior\n\texcellent condition\n\t73k miles\n\t$7500\/best offer.\n\n -rhonda\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I am looking for software that reads a plot in PCX or other format and \nconverts it into x,y coordinate.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Mark 'Mark' Sachs <MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu>, representing the Students for \n\n\n\n\nWell, I only saw it start in one place.  A tank punched a hole in a wall,\nand as it withdrew flames came out and spread quickly in the direction that\na 30+ mph wind was blowing.  I saw a diagram in USA Today yesterday, and\nfires started at 2 of the 3 holes that the tanks made.  A terrible, negligent\naccident.\n\n\n\n\nMaybe they couldn't.  I've often marvelled at how people could get burned alive\nin the upstairs of a 2 story house on fire, but it happens all the time.\nWhat if they were in sealed rooms, trying to avoid the gas, and didn't know\nabout the fire until it surrounded them?  Remember the Israelis hiding in\nsealed rooms during Desert Storm to avoid gas-bearing Scuds?\n\nCripes, Mark, are you REALLY a college student?  Maybe you ought to stop\nworrying about increased beverage access and start clearing your head.\nEver heard of questioning authority? \n\n\n\nOK, I'll buy that.  You _do_ seem totally clueless...\n\n\ncontrary. \n\nWellllll....  They weren't murderous.  They'd never harmed or even threatened \nanybody until they were attacked by a paramilitary force using military weapons\nand hardware.  And as far as \"evidence\", what are you talking about?  \nEverything the Feds have said they've retracted practically as soon as they get\nquestioned in detail about it.  Maybe you and your Increased Beverage\nAccess buddies, sitting around the bar slurring stuff like \"they shoulda\nkilled 'em all 51 days ago\" don't feel that way, but then you're probably\none of those people still saying about Klinton \"Give the guy a chance, we don't\neven know what he's gonna do! (Burp)\n\n\n\n\nNo problem, you don't have any questions that scare any of us.  Most of our\nminds are apparently more developed than yours.  \n\nThe answer is:  *YES!*  In a f*cking heartbeat!  \n\nThought Experiment:  Would you be mindlessly down on your knees with your mouth \nopen, blissfully sucking up anything the Feds said if Bush were the president?\nWhat, no comeback?  (OK, go ahead, say it.  \"Read my lips, no new taxes\" %^P   )\n\n\n\n\nNot in such a great degree.  Bush broke one promise, maybe two (taxes\/guns)\nand we held him accountable for it.  Of course, it took him the better part of\n4 years to do it;  Slick's only been in office 101 days and he's broken lots\nof them.  Anddd...  I imagine he'll also be held accountable for that.\n\n(I can just see the campaign buttons now:   \"ABC - Anybody But Clinton\")\n\n\nHmmm.... Apparently you just got here.  Nobody's claiming that it was anything\nbut a stupid mistake by a bunch of incompetent public employees who normally\ndon't get this kind of scrutiny when the mess up.  And as far as how they picked\nthe Davidians, who knows?  Maybe they figured that nobody'd care about such\na politically incorrect group as a bunch of fundies out on the Texas prairie.\nMaybe they figured they'd just go in there and run roughshod over the BDs\nduring their religious services (which was the reason the Feds gave for the\ntiming of the raid) rather than running into resistance.  Maybe they KNEW\nthat the BDs weren't ANYWHERE NEAR as violent as the Feds' spin doctors are\ntrying to tell the public.  Maybe they were AFRAID to try this kind of thing\non the Crips and Bloods.  Maybe it was because the ATF's budget is up for\napproval and they seem to favor doing something dramatic whenever that is\nthe case.  Of course, their reasoning doesn't matter, only what they did,\nand this time, people are just paying more attention to it.\n\n\n\nNot if you mean that stupid \"don't stop thinking about tomorrow\"...\n\n\nAll I've ever heard is Hillary's diabolical giggle.  Waffle Man seems to have\nlost his sense of humor...\n\n\nDon't know, never seen him in one.  He probably looks fat and puffy faced,\njust like in a suit.  I saw him in the Rose Garden the other day, and I\ncouldn't get over how much he is starting to look like Teddy Kennedy.\n\n\n\n\nDon't worry, these things WILL be investigated.  Now go back to your beer,\nyou dimwit....\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nJust want to make a comment on this.  If you live in this country long\nenough, you should realize the media is no friend of the govt.  I am\nonly concerned about fact that the media like to jump to conclusion\nbefore the facts.  But I am sure they are good in digging dirt as\nwell; afterall, they like the controversial events, which of course\nmake news.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Path: nntpd2.cxo.dec.com!pa.dec.com!decwrl!ames!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.ysu.edu!psuvm!cunyvm!jcehc\nOrganization: City University of New York\nDate: Wednesday, 21 Apr 1993 14:17:47 EDT\nFrom: <JCEHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>\nMessage-ID: <93111.141747JCEHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>\nNewsgroups: talk.politics.guns\nSubject: Should Anybody be Permitted to Own a .50 BMG rifle?\nLines: 26\n\n   For the moment, forget about BATF incompetence or FBI hubris.  Did\nanybody catch Rep. Charles Shumer on the news last night holding up\na .50 BMG cartridge and rhetorically asking if anybody should be allowed\nto own one of these.  (I presume he meant the rifle for which it is chambered\nand not the cartridge which you can get for a buck.)\n\n  So what's your guess for the upcoming anti-gun agenda:\n\n1.   A ban on heavy caliber rifles. (read .50 BMG)\n\n2.   A ban on \"sniper rifles\"\n\n3. A ban on \"stockpiling\" guns and ammunition.\n\n\nBTW: Shumer is perhaps the most misinformed congressman I have seen on\n     the news. I wonder how he finds the floor in the morning.\n-------\nMICHAEL F. GORDON\nJCEHC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU\n\n\"Vote as you shot.\"  (19th Cent Republican campaign slogan )\n\n\nShumer is not mis-informed, he knows full well what he is doing.\n\nIf you look at his other votes, and positions as an agent of redistribution\nof wealth & property in this country, to him guns and personal freedom \nare incompatible with his obvious world-view. They are a threat to the\n'order' he would impose.\n\n\tR\n\n--\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\"It [collectivism vs individualism] is an ancient conflict. Men have come\nclose to the truth, but it was destroyed each time and one civilization fell\nafter another. Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The\nsavage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe.\nCivilization is the process of setting man free from men.\"\n    -- Ayn Rand : 'Roark's speech from the _Fountainhead_'\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nI don't speak for my company. We hire the 'Politically Correct' to do that.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I don't know if it causes the body any harm, but in the 23\nyears I've been teaching nine and ten years olds I've never had\none fall over from eating \"boogers\" which many kids do on a\nregular basis [when they think no one is looking . . .]\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"[argument over \"reasonable\" players and umpires deleted]\n\n\n\nYes, but the baseball rules say you can only appeal a ball and not a\nstrike. There was no decision made by the umpire regarding an appeal.\nOnce he called it a strike the call could not be changed.  \n\nI thought that the umpire did the right thing.\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Hi,\n   I'm now in the market for buying a BMW.The ideal would be an R80 RS but I'd be\ninterested to here of any R80 for sale .Age is not a problem - I'm more\ninterested in a good example without a massive amount of miles and one which has\nbeen well maintained as I intend to keep it well and for some time.\n\n   I would also like to know if anyone has any sound advice as regards to\nINSURANCE - 27yr old,licence for 9 years,no accidents\/claims\/convictions.Am I old\nenough to get BMW owners club insurance yet or will I have to wait until next\nyear? \n\n\t\t\t\tIan","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"From 9150618 Thu Apr 29 16:36:43 1993\nDate: Thu, 29 Apr 1993 16:36:42 +1000\nFrom: 9150618 (Gavin Fairlamb)\nTo: 9130037\nStatus: R\n\n\nHello, folks...\n        I am doing a uni. project and was wondering if you could\n   supply with some specific info. or references for info. regarding\n   \t\t1). Considerations for installation of XWindows in\n\t\ta HP 9000(unknown model)\n                2). Motif, OPENLOOK, XToolkit, Linux????\n                3). X11, X11R.... \n                4). Glossary of any term on X \n\tWe considering this software for the project which deals\n     in image analysis...\n\n     Any info. would be greatly appreciated.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n\nRepeat a lie often enough and people will start to believe it, eh?\n\nThe Hamas terrorists were given the opportunity to appeal.  They've\nchosen not to, obviously because they get better propaganda mileage\nout of refusing.\n\nIsrael also agreed that they could return immediately, provided they\nagreed to stop killing Jews.  Their refusal speaks for itself.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"O.K.- if you've read this group for a while, you know all about the\none-time-pad, but here's a question I haven't seen.\n\nThe one-time-pad yeilds ideal security, but has a well-known flaw in\nauthentication.  Suppose you use a random bit stream as the pad, and\nexclusive-or as the encryption operation.  If an adversary knows the \nplaintext of a message, he can change it into any other message.  \nHere's how it works.\n\nAlice is sending Bob a plaintext P, under a key stream S\nAlice computes the ciphertext C = S xor P,  and sends it to Bob.\n\nEve knows the plainext P, but wants the message to appear as P'.\nEve intercepts C, and computes  C' = C xor P xor P' = S xor P'.\nEve sends C' to Bob.\n\nBob decrypts C' by computing  C'xor S = P',  thus receiving the \nfalse message which was substituted by Eve.\n\n\nNow the question is how can this attack be defeated with information\ntheoretic security, not just computational security.\nCan we define something like \"ideal authentication\" which is the\nanalog of ideal security.  Can we obtain ideal authentication ?\n\nIf not, how much can we limit Eve's control over the message ?\n\nIf we can achieve ideal authentication, does the solution use more\nkey bits or expand the message ?  Can we show the solution to be\noptimal in one or more parameters ?\n\nDoes anyone know if these questions have been aswered before ?","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\n      Gosh.  Does this mean I'm not invited to the next\n      White House \"barbecue\" ?\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nWhy jettison the SSMEs?  Why not hold on to them and have a shuttle \nbring them down to use as spares?\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nSorry about following up my own article, but I wanted to continue\nthat what might be being missed here is that the important thing\nmight not be temperature differences per se, but the action of\nheat sinking the battery.\n\nPerhap someone could conduct an experiment, taking two identical\nlead acid batteries, placing both on wooden shelves, but putting\none of them in a water bath designed to act as a heat sink.  This\nwould eliminate the 'concrete floor effect', and keep both batteries\nat the same ambient temperature.\n\nI think the argument over temperatures is not pertinent, but the\none over heat conductance and removing the exothermic heat may have\nsome validity.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nHandlebar mounted windshields on windy days are no fun at all.  It has been \nwindy as hell down here for a week or so and it plays hell with the steering.\nOh, I still ride.  I just bitch a lot about it!\n\n ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====----","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Hello X'ers\n\nI have a problem: I am not able to create a window with 24 bit planes. The\nfollowing code illustrates the problem:\n\n#include <stdio.h>\n#include <X11\/Xlib.h>\n#include <X11\/Xutil.h>\n\nmain()\n{\n        Display *display;\n        Window win;\n        XVisualInfo vinfo;\n        Colormap colormap;\n        XSetWindowAttributes attributes;\n        XEvent event;\n        Status status;\n\n        display=XOpenDisplay(NULL);\n        status=XMatchVisualInfo(display,DefaultScreen(display),24,TrueColor,\n                &vinfo);\n        if (!status){\n                fprintf(stderr,\"Visual not found\\n\");\n                exit(1);\n        }\n        colormap=XCreateColormap(display,DefaultRootWindow(display),\n                vinfo.visual,AllocNone);\n\n        attributes.colormap=colormap;\n\n        win=XCreateWindow(display,DefaultRootWindow(display),0,0,100,100,\n                0,24,InputOutput,vinfo.visual,CWColormap,&attributes);\n        XMapWindow(display,win);\n        for (;;){\n                XNextEvent(display,&event);\n        }\n}\n\nI tried this with an SGI with 24 plane TrueColor server, and with an HP\n9000-700 24 plane DirectColor server (with the obviously neccessary change),\nboth running X11R4. On the client side, I have tried with X11R4 Xlib on\nHP 9000-700 and DECstation, and with X11R3 Xlib on DECstation. All the\ncombinations gave BadMatch error on the CreateWindow request.\n\nAs far as I can tell from the manual, the only attribute which may give\na BadMatch, is the colormap, if it belongs to a wrong visual. But the\nvisual was correctly matched, as I did not get the error message. What\nam I doing wrong? For information I can tell that xwud aborts with the\nsame error.\n\n                                   Karsten\n-- ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Conviction of Sin\n\n\t\tA meta-exegetical or methodological essay\n\n\n\n\nI look forward to reading it.  When I got to the library last week, it\nwas with the object in view to look at some articles that have appeared\nover the last few years, since my previous look at the literature.  Un-\nfortunately, they had moved the journal back-issues, so I didn't get a\nlook at the articles I was hoping to find.  I will continue to reserve\nmy own judgment on _arsenokoitai_ until I have seen the latest scholarly\nwork, and I can hope that REXLEX's posting may give some meat to chew on.\n\nHowever, what I *can* do now, is to point out the methodological issues\n-- what needs to be shown for anything to be concluded in this matter.\nIf the article REXLEX posts addresses these issues, so much the better;\nif not, you will perhaps understand why the problem is hard.\n\n\nwrites, _in abstractu_:\n\n\n\t[it is only a minor point, but let me make it anyway; De Young has\n\talready contradicted his own prior assertion in this abstract that\n\tthe ancient analysis of these issues was concerned with actions and\n\tNOT with orientation.  I doubt this will have much bearing on the\n\tarticle as such, but thought I should point it out from the start.]\n\nThe hypothesis De Young is advancing is that Paul a) coined the word and\nb) his intended meaning for it was in reference to the Levitical law.  The\nquestions I wish to raise are\n\n\t1.)  how would one go about confirming the truth of this hypothesis?\nand\t2.)  what follows if one accepts (or stipulates, for the sake of the\n\t     discussion) that it is correct?\n\nNote that b) is independent of a); I consider b) far more plausible than a),\nwhich seems merely to be a counsel of despair over finding nothing in the\nliterature contemporary with Paul to clarify this word.  So far as I know,\nPaul does NOT in general invent words anywhere else in his letters.  Unless\nyou have an otherwise-established pattern of coinages, it is *not* sound\nmethodology to assume it -- particularly if he gives no hint in the immedi-\nate text to \"fix\" the coinage's meaning for his audience.\n\nAs yet, the extract presents no evidence at all.  What do we need to confirm\nor reject the hypothesis? (which, I should say at the outset, I find somewhat\nplausible; I certainly know of nothing which makes it an *impossible* way\nof construing this problem passage.)  I'm going to set aside for the moment\nthe question of whether Paul might have coined this usage, to look at the\nmore tractable question of what it means.  For this there are, in principle,\ntwo kinds of evidence that can be adduced, internal and external.  That is,\nwe can look at the text of Paul's letter for clarification or look outside\nthat to prior or contemporary writings that Paul might have relied on, or to\nderivative writings that have some claim of access to Paul's meaning.\n\nThe single WORST problem with this word in Corinthians is that there IS no\ninternal evidence for Paul's meaning.  He uses the word totally without an\nexplanation or hint as to his meaning, save that its inclusion in a list of\nnegatives implies that it has for him SOME negative meaning.\n\nWe are left, as the only \"internal\" clue, with the etymology or formation\nof the word -- which is indeed the reason that De Young (and others before\nhim) have associated it with the Leviticus prohibition of men VERBing with\nother men, where VERB is some standard euphemism for having sex (\"lie\" in\nLeviticus, \"bed\" in Greek).  One problem is that \"bedders\" (_-koitai_) is\nnot, as far as I know, USED that way in Greek.  THEREFORE, I offer one\nserious test which de Young's hypothesis *must* pass or be rejected:\n\n\to  find a body of Greek texts contemporary with Paul (or not much\n\t   prior to his day) such that the _X-koitai_ formation implies\n\t   \"men who have sex with X\"  [obviously, the \"best case\" is to\n\t   find such usages of _arsenokoitai_ itself.]\n\nsuch texts would be confirmation that the word *can* be read that way.\nIt is worth emphasizing that compound words are NOT in general under-\nstandable by projecting what the READER may imagine by the juxtaposition\nof the roots.  Existence of such parallels doesn't *prove* the hypothesis\ncorrect -- but it goes a long way towards making such a usage (whether or\nnot original with Paul in the specific case of X == _arse:n_) possible\nof comprehension by his readers.\n\nMy \"test\" moves in the direction of external evidence.  If Paul does NOT\nin his text explain his word (and he does not), then he has to expect his\nreaders to already know the word (which stands against its being a coinage)\nor to expect that it mimics word formations that they *do* know, such that\nthey can guess his meaning without too much floundering.\n\nExternal evidence, that is, texts other than Paul's own and lexicographic\nor social\/historical considerations that might be adduced, then come into\nthe picture.  *If* there are other uses of the word, not dependent on Paul,\nwhich *have* sufficient internal (contextual) evidence -- or some gloss by\na contemporary scribe -- to show a derogatory reference to male homosexu-\nality, or similar _-koitai_ formations used in similar ways, *then* one\nhas grounds for\n\n\to  denying that Paul coined the word\nand\to  assuming that his readers might understand his meaning\n\nDo you see the problem?  If Paul coined the word, then he REQUIRES his\nreaders to share enough context with him to COMPREHEND his coinage and\nits intent -- in this case that they would (stipulating De Young's guess)\nunderstand him to be referring to the Levitical \"universal\" prohibition\nof male-male sex (this, mind you, in a context where Paul has emphasized\nat least to OTHER congregations (and so one assumes to the Corinthians --\nhow else to explain 1 Cor. 6:12, and the Corinthians having to be pulled\nback from overinterpreting their freedom?) the NON applicability of Torah\nlaw to his gentile converts!)\n\nAmong the considerations that make it implausible for Paul to have coined\nthe word, its first element is archaic -- _arse:n_ is an old Attic or\nIonic form of what in even classical (let alone koine) times would be\nassimilated as _arre:n_.  To me, this implies that we are even more than\nusually needful of external evidence to pin down meaning and usage.  What\nis Paul doing inventing a word in obsolete Attic formation?\n\nAnd if he *didn't* coin the word, but picked it up like the others in\nhis list as common terms of derogation, then his meaning will be -- for\nhis readers -- constrained by that common meaning (since he gives no\nother.)\n\nI cannot emphasize enough that Paul DOES NOT TELL US what he means by\nthis word.  We (and his original readers) are guessing.  They, at least,\nhad a contemporary context -- and maybe Paul had used this very word and\nexplained it in great detail to them in person.  But we have no trace of\nevidence of that, and to *suppose* it is mere fantasy.\n\nSo -- we are *desperately* in need of external evidence about this word.\nAnd it seems to be exceptionally meagre.  That is precisely the problem.\nI can think of several more or less equally plausible hypotheses about\nthe word:\n\n\ta)  it was a standard gutter term of abuse for (some or all, maybe\n\t    very specific, maybe very general) homosexual male activities\n\n\tb)  it was a term of abuse used by Jews about the awful homosexual\n\t    Greeks (which may or may not be consciously associated on their\n\t    part with the Leviticus passage)\n\n\tc)  Paul invented the term -- and again there may or may not be an\n\t    association with Leviticus in his doing so.  He may or may not\n\t    intend the word to have an explicit and universal application\n\t    with absolute and clear boundaries.  [Since none of his OTHER\n\t    words in that list have such character, this last seems to me\n\t    about the *least* plausible of the hypotheses I'm advancing.]\n\nOf these, I'd say off the top of my head that a) is most plausible -- but\nI still have reservations about that, too.\n\nIf the word NEVER appears before Paul, and in later uses has some evidence\nof depending on Paul, then one can opt for Paul's coining it.  If it does\nappear before him, he might *still* have coined it being unaware of prior\nuse (in which case, his coinage is inherently confusing!) but one should\nnormally demote c) on the basis of any earlier uses (especially if they\ncan be shown to have been at all common in the places Paul traveled.)  In\neither of the a) or b) cases, one has to take into account Paul's relation\nto the community of usage he picked the word up from -- and whether it be\nfrom the Greek or Jewish communities, Paul's relations are hardly straight-\nforward!\n\nThere is, so far as I have yet seen, little or no external evidence to aid\nus in selecting one of these (or some other) hypothesis.  Your guess is as\ngood as mine (or maybe worse or maybe better, depending on a lot of things).\nBut it remains -- so far -- guesswork.  And I don't know about you, but I\nfor one WILL NOT equate human guesswork with the will of God.  By all means\nbe convinced in your own conscience about what Paul is getting at -- as he\nsays elsewhere on what was in HIS day a major controversy of somewhat this\nsame character (Romans 14:22-23)\n\n\t\"Hold on to your own belief, as between yourself and God -- and\n\tconsider the man fortunate who can make his decision without going\n\tagainst his conscience.  But anybody who eats in a state of doubt\n\tis condemned, because he is not in good faith, and every act done\n\tin bad faith is a sin.\"\n\nFor my part, I cannot see any way to resolve Paul's meaning in the use of\n_arsenokoitai_ without directly applicable external evidence -- and by\nthe nature of such external evidence, it will never reach to certainty\nof constraining Paul's own intent.  Paul, like Humpty Dumpty (and me, and\nall the rest of us) *will* use words in ways that are personal choices --\nand sometimes leave his readers puzzled.  If that puzzlement leads you\nto God, it may be blessed -- if it should lead away (as some of Paul's\nwords HAVE led some people), then Paul's intense communicative effort to\ncontrive his meaning in our souls may have some regretable consequences.\nI have always found Paul to be a fantastically reliable guide -- if I\nread him \"in the large\", if I can see him lay out his position in detail\nand hammer it home time and time again.  I am much less certain about his\nmeaning in his many brief and cryptic passages (such as this one.)\n\nIn my usual discursive way, I have gone on at great length about the first\nof my intended meta-exegetical points -- what would be needed to confirm\nthat Paul a) coined or b) in any case meant the word to mean the same as\nthe Leviticus prohibition.  My second point is to *stipulate* this hypo-\nthesis, and follow up what it implies for both his initial readers and\nfor later Christians.  Given my verbosity, this will be tomorrow night's\nmeditation :-)","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nAre you sure?  Harley's disclaimer says, \"if you crash, we take care of\nthe bike, you take care of you.\"\n\nIf you were really responsible for the bike, did your insurance cover\nit?\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"325\/441\/577.\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\t[munch]\n\n\n\n\n\t[munch  following is reformatted]\n\n\n\n\n\tI'd say that the massive crash problems are exceedingly rare.\n\tWindows _itself_ almost never crashes, but it can be crashed by\n\tan errant application (My personal favorite?  Any one of the Corel\n\t3.0 programs).  On the other hand, I have had OS\/2 crash randomly\n\ta number of times, mostly just running it's own applications.\n\n\tFor instance.  Today I discovered a new one.  While I was downloading\n\twith Procomm Plus For Windows (running seamless with the standard\n\tVGA drivers on a run-o' da mill VGA card--640x480), I decided that\n\tI wanted to edit a copy of a quote that I wanted to add to my \n\t.finger.  But since I've learned not to really trust seamless, \n\tI fired up a full screen WinOS\/23.1 session.  Whoops, the download\n\tfinished while WinOS\/2 was loading.  It had _just_ gotten\n\tthe pointer up, so I hit alt-escape to get back t the desktop\n\t(I have a lot of fonts, so loading takes a good long while).\n\t\n\tBlam.  Screen trashed, Procomm hangs up.  Hm.  Well, I can sorta\n\tsee the mouse, so I clicked on the minimized WINOS\/2 session \n\tand got back my fullscreen Windows session (but the color were\n\toff--red and green and yellow and brown instead of blues and greys).\n\tSo I closed this, and got back to the desktop (now fully restored).\n\n\tPP+ was still sitting, window open, but it was no longer \n\t\"connected\" to the com port--so I exited it (the normal way--\n\tit told me I was still online and it would hang up, though it\n\twas _already_ hung up).  Hm.  Well, load anothe--no, bad idea. \n\tShutdown and reboot.\n\n\tOk, refresh first.. Now, shutdown.  Yes, everything is closed...\n\n\tHm.  Nothing seems to be happening.  Let's see.. Ah, the \n\twindows list still comes up.  OK, let's try shutdown again.\n\n\tNo go.  Huh.\n\n\tAlright, wait 60 seconds to see if it's just running slow.\n\n\tHmm.  Still seems to be running OS\/2.  Try shutdown again.\n\tNothing.  Oh well.  Reboot.  Enjoy the checkdisk time.\n  \n\tIn this case, a part of the OS crashed not only itself, but\n\tOS\/2 entirely (which isn't even smart enough to tell when it;s\n\tbeen compromised, I guess).  In everyday (specifically _today_)\n\tuse.\n\n\n\n\n\tThat's the idea, anyway.  In truth, when a program crashes on \n\tOS\/2, it will bring the system down with it.  The programs that\n\twould just GPF under Windows do the same under OS\/2, but programs\n\tthat are fine under DOS and Windows bring OS\/2 screaming to a halt,\n\ttask protection or no.  \n\n\tFor instance, I'm still wondering why print preview in a windowed\n\tWP 5.1 (DOS) locks up my system.  It works fine under DOS or even in\n\ta dos box under Windows 3.1.  (Admittedly, it doesn't crash if I run\n\tWP51 full screen, but the first time this bug big me, it bit hard).\n\n\n\n\n\n\tPlease explain.  The only time I wait on anything under Windows is\n\twhen I'm copying or formatting a floppy, or when printing (and even\n\tthen, not long--I get 9 to 11 pages dumped to the printman per \n\tminute, and can _still_ go do things--slowly--while it's doing \n\tthis--I've downloaded with PP+ @9600 while printing).\n\n\n\n\n\n\tNot sure what you mean here.  OS\/2 sees 16 megs, uses 5 or six\n\tof these for it's own use (more if you want to count WinOS\/2). \n\tWindows sees 16 megs, uses 3 or 4 (more like 5 if you count the\n\tdisk cache as I am for OS\/2) for itself.  If memory efficiency \n\twere a big issue, PC GEOS would be the current king of the \n\tIntel desktop.  \n\n\n\n\n\tOn the other hand.. I am finally able to say with some confidence\n\tthat both OS\/2 and Windows have a bit of hardware sensitivity to\n\tthem.  For instance, the machine I am sitting at runs both fine, \n\twhile the machine next to me constantly locks up under Windows. \n\t(But ran OS\/2 without a hitch once I got it through a 5-crash \n\tinstall).  On the whole, I'd say OS\/2 is a whole lot more sensitive\n\tthan Windows, but there are (I suppose) machines that Windows\n\tjust doesn't like.  \n\n\n\n\t\n\tWasn't this _Ferris_ Bueller?\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
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{"text":"Has anyone heard of a SCSI device that can capture video? \n\nWe need some sort of device that can capture about 10 frames or so per\nsecond, and work off the SCSI bus. The idea is to use it for some sort of\nvideo\nconferencing application.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"You forgot one thing \"All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of\nGod\".\nMark\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
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{"text":"\n[ First of all, please edit your postings.  Wading through 50 lines of\n  quoted crud, which people have already read, makes people much less\n  likely to help you.  Of course, if you don't want to be helped, that's\n  your problem.  ;-) ]\n\n\n     No, it's not true.  You can get SCSI and IDE to work together, but\nthere are restrictions (at least with the Adaptec 1542):\n\n* You MUST boot from the IDE drive.  There is no way to boot from the\n  SCSI drive if you have both IDE and SCSI drives.\n\n* You MUST disable the SCSI ROM BIOS (I'm not sure about this, though),\n  and so you must also use some special drivers to access the SCSI\n  drive.  (Hmm.  I know that you have to disable something related to\n  the SCSI BIOS, but I'm not sure if it is the ROM itself.)\n\n     Back in February, someone asked about IDE and SCSI (this question\ngets asked again and again).  At the end of this message, I've included\nan edited copy of my reply.  You might find it interesting.\n\n     -- Darryl Okahata\n\tInternet: darrylo@sr.hp.com\n\nDISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not\nconstitute the support, opinion or policy of Hewlett-Packard or of the\nlittle green men that have been following him all day.\n\n===============================================================================\n\n     For MSDOS applications, ISA-based SCSI and IDE controllers\ngenerally have comparable throughput.  You might get slightly higher\nthroughput with a SCSI disk, but you'll also pay more for the disk\n($30-$100 and up, in some cases).  You'll also pay much, much more for a\ngood SCSI controller.\n\n     Note that good SCSI controllers really show their power if they're\nused with a good multitasking operating system (like a PC Unix).\nUnfortunately, neither MSDOS nor Windows 3.1 is a good multitasking\noperating system.  The performance advantage of SCSI controllers is\nmostly wasted with these, which leaves the advantage of being able to\nconnect multiple devices to the SCSI bus as the only advantage.\nHowever, note that you can expect to pay a premium for SCSI devices.\n\n     If you're only going to be using MSDOS, stick with IDE.  It's\ncheaper, and you'll have less headaches.\n\n\n[ Note: the following is true for MSDOS\/Windows only.  Who knows what\n  the future holds for Windows NT and Unix??? ]\n\n     No.  Generally, you have to find drivers for each SCSI device,\nwhich probably don't exist unless you're using one of the \"better\"\/\"high\nperformance\" SCSI controllers.  These are typically bus-mastering SCSI\ncontrollers that cost around $180-$400 (street prices) and up, and\ndrivers that allow you to connect these controllers to popular\nname-brand SCSI devices either come with the card, or can be purchased\n(for under $100 list price).  Examples of such driver kits are:\n\n* Adaptec's EZ SCSI kit (list: $75).  This works only with Adaptec SCSI\n  controllers.\n\n* CorelSCSI! (from the same people who make CorelDRAW!) (list: $99 (?)).\n  This driver kit will supposedly work with any SCSI controller card\n  that has an ASPI driver, like the Adaptec.\n\n     Central Point's PC Tools for DOS 8.0 supports a number of SCSI tape\ndrives (the documentation lists 40 tape drives).  Unfortunately, it\nworks only with Adaptec controllers.\n\n\n     Yes, you will run into problems, if you're using a\nhigh-performance, bus-mastering SCSI controller.  This doesn't sound\nright, doesn't it?  It's true, though.  With one of these controllers,\nyou'll probably have to tweak your system to get it to work with sound\ncards, floppy-controller-based tape drives (like the CMS Jumbo 250), and\nWindows 3.1.  I know.  I've been to h*ll and back getting my SCSI\ncontroller to work with various hardware\/software (thank God for tape\nbackups).  If you want a copy of my \"Adaptec 1542 hints and tips\" file,\nsend email.\n\n     These problems aren't really the fault of the SCSI controller card;\nthe problems are really with the general hardware and software design of\nthe PC (e.g., no standards).  However, adding a bus-mastering SCSI card\nis what brings these problems to the surface and makes them visible.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nValve seat wear?\n\n\nTony\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n[request for WDC65c816 Mac cross-development stuff]\n\nApple themselves sells a 65816 cross-developer for the Macintosh called \n'MPW IIgs' (it's intended for use with the Apple IIgs computer, which uses\nthe '816).\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nMy Centris 610 is working perfectly.  There is one problem that I have\nnoticed.  FastBack II backup utility does not work!!!  The strange thing\nis that it works with my friend's 610 most of the time, however, it never\nworks with my machine.  I assume it is some sort of software problem and\nnot hardware related.\n\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I am tunning into this newgroup after a long time. Could somebody tell me \nwhat the slave mode in the xterm is? and what can it be used for? Any info\nwhere I can get more info or examples. I want to use a bunch of xterms and \nsend the input from one application to these xterms and get the output on the\nxterms. Please email me any info. ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nThere is something terribly wrong, however, with a culture which\ncondemns, attacks, and all too often kills any of its members who\nattempt to get an education.  My mother is an elementary school\nteacher, and she tells me that she and her african american collegues\nare frustrated to tears by the fact that any african american child who\nattempts to do well in school and get an education is accused by\nhis\/her peers of \"trying to be white\", and is beaten, bullied, and\ntormented by them.  It goes beyond each passing grade on a test earning\na beating.  In my mother's school, one of the most promising young\nstudents, who happened to be african american, had her throat cut by\none of these young thugs.\n\nNobody who buys into such a culture has any hope of being anything but\npoor and\/or a thug and\/or dead, regardless of their color.\n\nWhat has to be changed is the culture.  If that culture can't be\nchanged, then those african-american kids who are willing to separate\nfrom it *must* be separated from it and the murderous thugs of whatever\ncolor.  Otherwise, future bright young african american girls who\nwanted to be doctors will end up dead on the school bus.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"[This is SWF in another indirect post via Dan].\n\npredicitions\nif you\nhave some\nmany types of\nhappen again\nmay predict\nreaction\n\nThere are several problems here. First, you are discussing only\nexperimental procedures. Observational procedures are also useful.  The\nmain criterion is attempting to verify an idea by using it to make\nprediction about as-yet unmade observations. The observations could be\nthe result of an experiment, or they could be obsevations of activity\noccuring spontaneossly in nature, or they could even be observations of\nthe lasting results of events long past. All that matters is that the\nobservations be *new*.  This is what prediction is about in science -\nit is\n*not* about predicting the future except in this very restricted\nsense.\n\nSecondly, repeatability can also take many forms.  It is really just\nthe\nrequirement that independent observers be able to verify the results.\nThe\nobservation of a fossil is 'repeatable', since any qualified observer\nmay\nlook at it (this is why the specimens are reqtined in a museum).  Also,\nthere is the implicit prediction that future fossil finds will\ncorrespond\nto the current one.  New fossils are found often enough that this is\ntested regularly.  Many times a new fossil actually falsifies some\nconclusion made on the basis of previous fossils.\n\nUnfortunately for you, the models that were falsified have alway been\nperipheral to the model of evolution we now have.  (For instance, the\nfront legs of Tyrannosaurus rex turned out to have tremendous muscles,\nrather than being weakly endowed as previously believed).\n\nSo, in fact, histoircal science findings *are* repeatable in the\nnecessary sense.  Just becuase you cannot go out and repeat the\noriginal\nevent does *not* make it impossible to make valid observations.\n\n[This is not to say that biologists would not go coo-coo if extra-\nterrestrial life were discovered - that could make the determination\nof the process of abiogenesis relatively easy].\n\n--\nsarima@teradata.com                     (formerly tdatirv!sarima)\n  or\nStanley.Friesen@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"   >Subject: hate the sin...\n   >Date: 12 May 93 08:27:08 GMT\n\n   >\"Hate the sin but love the sinner\"...I've heard that quite a bit recently,\n   >My question is whether that statement is consistent with Christianity. I\n   >would think not.  Hate begets more hate, never love.\n\n       If you are questioning whether or not \"hating sin\" is consistent with\n   Christianity; I ask you to consider the following Scripture:\n\n       Romans 12:9 \"Let Love be without hypocrisy.  Hate what is evil, cling\n                    to what is good.\"\n\n       What is it that Paul, through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit is\n   calling us to hate?  Would God call us to do something that would\n   eventually lead to hating our fellow man; especially when he commands us to\n   do the opposite, to love your fellow man?\n\n   >Consider some sin. Now lets apply our \"hate the sin...\" philosophy and see\n   >what happens. If we truly hate the sin, then the more we see it, the\n   >stronger our hatred of it will become. Eventually this hate becomes so\n   >strong that we become disgusted with the sinner and eventually come to\n   >hate the sinner.\n\n       That has not been my experience.  I've not found myself hating anybody\n   as a result of hating the sin that may be in their life.  As a sinner\n   myself, I find myself having more compassion for the person.  Jesus too,\n   since the Bible teaches that he was tempted in every way that we are, is\n   able to have compassion on us when we our tempted and fall.  Jesus is our\n   very example of HOW to hate the sin but love the sinner.  In the account of\n   the woman caught in adultery (John 8), Jesus had compassion on the woman;\n   BUT he also called her to leave her life of sin.  This is what it means to\n   love sinners but hate their sin; it means loving them unconditionally,\n   while at the same time calling them to leave their sin.\n\n   >In addition, our hatred of the sin often causes us to say and do things\n   >which are taken personally by the sinner (who often does not even believe\n   >what they are doing is a sin).\n\n       The blame for this can not always be laid at the feet of the\n   Christian.  I have seen and been guilty of taking offense by someone merely\n   pointing out my sin and calling me to repent of it.  It was not unloving\n   for the Christian to call me out of sin; in fact, I believe it was the most\n   loving thing that that person could have done.  He loved me enough to want\n   to spare me the consequence of remaining in my sin.\n\n   >After enough of this, the sinner begins to hate us (they certainly don't\n   >love us for our constant criticism of their behavior). Hate builds up and\n   >drives people away from God...this certainly cannot be a good way to build\n   >love.\n\n       Again, I don't think that you can lay the blame for this at the feet of\n   the Christian.  If we have loved them as Jesus loved sinners (exemplified\n   in John 8) and the sinner hates us for it, then we have done the best we\n   can.  We will have extended to them the most perfect expression of love and\n   they will have rejected it.\n\n       Now it we hate the sin but forget to love the sinner, then indeed, we\n   will, ourselves, be in sin.\n\n   >In the summary of the law, Christ commands us to love God and to love our\n   >neighbors. He doesn't say anything about hate.\n\n       I would like to encourage you to do a word study on HATE in the New\n   Testament.  I really think that you will be surprised.\n\n   >In fact, if anything, he commands us to save our criticisms for ourselves.\n\n       Criticism is very different from calling a sinner to repent.\n\n   Hope this helps,\n   In Christ,\n   Tony Balsamo\n--","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\n \n\nThere can be. But depression is not diagnositic of thyroid deficiency.\nThyroid blood tests are easy, cheap, and effective in diagnosing thyroid\ndeficiencies.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Ever since I was a kid and learned to tell when I was in a \ndream I have used my dreams for fantasies or working out problems.\nIn my dreams I have done everything from yell at my mom\nto machine-gunning zombies, not to mention myriad sexual\nfantasies. I have deliberately done things that I would never\ndo in real life. I understand the need to control ones\nthoughts, but I always felt that dreams were format free,\nno morals, no ethics, no physical laws, (though sometimes I would \nhave to wake myself up to go to the bathroom.)\n\nIs this an incorrect attitude? Rather than weakening my inhibitions,\nI could argue that I got certain things \"out of my system\" by \nexperiencing them in dreams. By analyzing a dream I can determine\nif I have a problem with a certain situation, i.e. in a dream\nsomething will be exagerated that I can then contemplate and\nsee if it really bothers me or not.\n\nI can't believe that other people don't do the same. It seems \nsilly to attach moral significance to dreams.\n\nI think that this is entirely different from out of body\nexperiences, which I have never had.\n\nContradictions welcome.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n: When Elizabeth greeted Mary, Elizabeth said something to the effect that\n: Mary, out of all women, was blessed.  If so, it appears that this\n: exactly places Mary beyond the sanctification of normal humanity.\n\nThe phrase is \"eulogemene su en gunaixin\"- \"blessed are you among women.\"\nThere is nothing to indicate that this is an exceptional or unique status,\nonly that _as a woman_ Mary was blessed.  Adding the word \"all\" is not\na fair reading of the text.  There are some good reasons for the church's\nveneration of Mary, but they cannot depend on this verse.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nAre you serious?  The auto that had a lot to do with bringing the term\n\"boxer\" to the popular forefront was the Ferrari 512 Berlinetta Boxer\nor the 512BB. Had a 5 liter, opposed 12 cylinder engine.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"         Seems to me that I heard that some early Saabs were 2 cycle V4's.\n   Then again, who could possibly care ?>\n\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I am using xnlock as the screensaver for a PC-based X server. However,\nafter an interval of no activity, my X session ends. This does not\nhappen when I use xscreensaver. \n\nMy screensave command is fired up from my .xsession like this:\n\nxautolock -time 1 -locker xnlock -corners ++++ -cornerdelay 1 &\n\nMy hypothesis is that xdm (I use xdmcp to start my X session) detects\na period of inactivity from the server, then terminates the session.\nHowever, for some reason, this does not happen with xscreensaver. Is\nthere a workaround?\n\nI'd prefer responses via e-mail.\n\nThanks.\n\n\n\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"One of our ASU students needs data and or a copy or an article regarding\n accidents, injury or death to \"children\" (articles which state the age\n limits of \"children\") relating to firearms for a sociology report.\n\n We have a copy of the long Edgar A. Suter, M.D. article and but we can't find\n the Paul Blackman (NRA) \"expose'\".\n\n Any articles (or sections thereof) which deal with comparisons over time,\n locations, age groups, other reasons for accidents, injury or death, with\n percentages would be welcome.\n\n Please send same to our I.D. and node.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"For Sale:\n\t\t*********\n\n\t*  (1) CGA card\n\n\t*  Road & Track's Grand Prix (3.5\" disks)\n\n\t*  DOS 4.01\n\n\t*  Packard Bell .39 dot pitch VGA color monitor\n\n\t*  256K 2-the-max VGA card\n\n\tPlease make offers for the above merchandise.  What do you \n\thave to lose?  Go ahead--make an offer!  Thanks.\n\n\tEmail: bitzm@columbia.dsu.edu\n\n\t\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Thompson Schreiber) posted:\n \n[PTS]                  ARMENIA AND AZERBAIJAN: TWO VIEWS\n[PTS]                  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\n[PTS]               Washington Report On Middle East Affairs\n[PTS]                    April\/May 1993, Vol. XI, No. 9\n[PTS] \n[PTS] ----------------------------------------------------------------------\n[PTS] \n[PTS] \n[PTS]                    Life Under Blockade In Yerevan\n[PTS]                    ------------------------------\n[PTS]                          By Nancy Najarian\n \nMs. Najarian wrote on her personal observations. If somebody wishes to\ncounter the reality she described, fine. \n \n[PTS] ----------------------------------------------------------------------\n[PTS] \n[PTS] \n[PTS]       The Conflict Over Nagorno-Karabakh: An Azeri Perspective\n[PTS]       --------------------------------------------------------\n[PTS]                            By Alec Rasizade\n[PTS] \n[PTS] \n\n[AR] Western readers have learned of the Nagorno (Upper) Karabakh\n[AR] controversy through reports from that remote area by Western\n[AR] correspondents and from commentaries by member of the long-established\n[AR] Armenian-American community.  Azeri views on this dispute have\n[AR] appeared rarely if at all in the Western news media.  Therefore let me\n[AR] present _Washington Report_ readers with some basic truths about the\n[AR] origins of the conflict.\n\nDuring the past two years, if one reads all the commentaries on the subject,\na small minority of the writers have been Armenia or Azeri.\n\nThe following should be interesting. \n\n[AR] Armenian leaders claim that Azerbaijan was the first to oppress and\n[AR] expel the Armenian minority from the Azerbaijani Republic.  Actually,\n[AR] the initiative to banish the Azeri minority and convert the Armenian\n[AR] Republic into a homogeneous state began in the winter of 1987-1988,\n[AR] when 165,000 Azeris were driven out of Armenia.  Following that move,\n[AR] there were massacres of Armenians in the Azerbaijani cities of Sumgait\n[AR]in February 1988 and two years later, in Baku in January 1990.\n\nThis not true. Other than simply checking the newspapers, I will quote from an\nindependent human rights report. In the _PAX Cristi Netherlands_, 29 September\n1991, page 28, we read:\n\n \"By mid-november, many incidents took place in several places in\n  Azerbaijan. The APF [Azeri Popular Front] challenged the Communist Party\n  for power. ... After ten days, the authorities came in with tanks to\n  reimpose their power. In Nakhitchevan, the last Armenian villages were\n  deported. In Ganja, Armenians were attacked and killed. All 40,000 \n  Armenian inhabitants fled the city...\"\n\n  Between 22 November and 8 December 1988, refugees from Ganja arrived in\n  Armenia while all 167,000 Azeris in Armenia were chased away.\"\n\nIn this part of the world February 1988 [start of organized anti-Armenian \npogroms in Azerbaijan] come before November and December of 1988!\n\n[AR] Azeri parliamentary committees have compiled evidence indicating that\n[AR] both events were inspired from Moscow to secure Russian imperial rule\n[AR] in the Transcaucasus, according to the Roman principle of \"divide and\n[AR] rule.\"  Similar conspiracies are evident throughout the five-year\n[AR] history of the conflict.\n\nIt is interesting that the Azeris killed, burnt, raped the Armenians but the\nperpetrators blame Russians, and Armenians themselves on other occasions.\n \n[AR] Each time the parties have been about to reach an agreement (in\n[AR] Zheleznovodsk, Moscow, Tehran, Rome, Geneva and Alma-Ata), an\n[AR] invisible hand provoked further bloodshed.  Those interested in\n[AR] maintaining the Azeri-Armenian conflict, as well as the Georgian\n[AR] turmoil, are imperialist forces in Russia, and probably in Iran.\n\nIncorrect! When were the people of Nagorno-Karabakh ever involved in an\nagreement? Never. Until Azerbaijan sits down with the Armenians of Nagorno-\nKarabakh there will never be an end to this conflict.\n \n[AR] The Armenian offensive last spring created more than 100,000 new Azeri\n[AR] refugees from the captured towns of Upper and Lower Karabakh and\n[AR] adjacent rural districts.  Today 500,000 Azeri refugees throng the\n[AR] city of Baku and environs, providing more problems for the newly\n[AR] elected Popular Front government, which is opposed by the rigidly\n[AR] nationalistic National Independence Party.\n \nIt's called war. If the Azerbaijanis didn't try to deport and allow the \nArmenians of Nagorno-Karabakh to live in their ways, keep their Armenian\nculture, these Armenians would not have had to defend their existence. The\nAzeris should not have assumed that Armenians were going to roll over and\nplay dead. \n\n[AR] How can a Western-style democracy survive in a small Muslim country\n[AR] where 1 million of the 7 million inhabitants are unemployed?  In the\n[AR] absence of any international effort to help Azeri refugees, as Kurdish\n[AR] and Bosnian refugees have been helped, how can the Azeri government\n[AR] reject the demand of these exiles to recapture their lands, homes and\n[AR] possessions?\n\nThe Azeri government should have thought about such thnings before they\nattempted to deprive Armenians of \"lands, homes, and possessions\".\n \n[AR] Such simple realities must be understood in the West.\n[AR] Misunderstanding Caucasian politics leads both Western and Russian\n[AR] public opinion to imagine a permanent, and therefore irreversible,\n[AR] ethnic and religious rivalry in the Caucasus.\n\nTrue, and you, Dr. Alec Rasizade, should practice what you preach!\n \n[AR] I think Western reluctance to interfere derives from this idea.\n[AR] Meanwhile, continuation of the war could draw both Eastern and Western\n[AR] states into the conflict through activation of various security\n[AR] alliances.  These include, on the Armenian side, the Moscow-led\n[AR] Commonwealth forces under the Tashkent mutual security pact, signed\n[AR] May 15, 1992.  On the Azeri side, should Turkey get involved as the\n[AR] guarantor of the Nakhichevan autonomy through the Kars Treaty of Oct.\n[AR] 13, 1921, these include the North Atlantic Treaty forces.\n\nWestern interference! Turkish intervention! The moment Turkey dares step into\nthis conflict it will close the doors of any chance of Turkey being part of \nEurope (as if it ever will) and will destroy the eastern third of Anatolia!\nDr. Rasizade, international realpolitik is not as simple-minded as you would\nhave us believe.\n \n[AR] Upper Karabakh generally is described in Western press reports as an\n[AR]\"Armenian enclave within Azerbaijan.\"  The truth is that the Armenians\n[AR] began to appear there only in the middle of the last century.\n\nIncorrect once again. A brief scan of history addresses such a foolish\nclaim. \n\nArmenians today, refer to the area of Nagorno-Karabakh as \"Artsakh\", which \ncomes from the Urartian term \"Urtekhe-Urtekhini\". NO Azeris yet! \n\nAncient Greeks referred to Artsakh as \"Orkhistena\". NO Azeris yet!\n\nIn the first half of the 6th century B.C., Artsakh, as part of Ervandid\nArmenia of Media. NO Azeris yet!\n\nFrom the end of the 4th century B.C., Artsakh was part of the Armenian Kingdom\nof Ervan. NO Azeris yet!\n\nArtsakh was still part of the Armenian Empire of Tigran. Orkhistena, or \nArtsakh is refereed to by Strabo, as part of Armenia. NO Azeris yet!\n\nAfter Armenia was divided between the Persian and Byzantine Empires in 387 \nA.D. until 428, Artsakh was part of Armenia. NO Azeris yet!\n\nEnd of the 5th century, Utik and Artsakh became principalities of the \nAranshakhiks. NO Azeris yet!\n\nBy the 7th century an Artsakh dialect of Armenian formed. NO Azeris yet!\n\nEmperor Konstantin (913-959) addressees a letter to the Prince of Khachen \"To\nArmenia\". Khachen was the central principality of Artsakh. NO Azeris yet!\n\nIn the decree of Paul I (1797), the number of Armenian families in this area\nwas stated as 11,000.\n\nIt was from the 16th to the 18th centuries that non-Armenians from Central\nAsia, Asia Minor, and Kurdistan first began to be exercise political influence\nin the planes of Artsakh. Caucasian Muslims around Karabakh!\n\nIn 1813 Karabagh becomes part of Russia. Officiallt part of Russia 1828. Some \nMuslims in Karabakh!\n\nIn 1914, the number of Armenian churches in Nagorno-Karabagh was 224, 188\npriests, 206,768 parishioners in 224 Armenian towns and villages. The Armenian\npercentage of the population was over 90%. MAX: 10% Azeris in Karabakh --\nassuming no Kurds!\n\nConsider the following statement by the Azerbaijani Revcom on December 1, 1920:\n\n \"The Worker-Peasant Government of Azerbaidzan, having been informed of the\n  proclamation of Armenia a Soviet Socialist Republic, sends its greetings\n  to the brother people. From this day the previous boundaries between\n  Armenia and Azerbaidzan are annulled. Nagornyi Karabakh, Zangezur, and\n  Nakhichevan are recognized as integral parts of the Armenian Socialis\n  Republic.\n\n  Long live the brotherhood and union of the workers and peasants of Soviet\n  Armenia and Azerbaidzan!\n\n\t\t\t\tChairman of the Revcom of Azerbaidzan\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\tN. Narimanov\n\n\t\t\t\tPeople's Commissar for Foreign Affairs\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\tGuseinov\"\n\n[AR] A few years ago they celebrated the 150th anniversary of their\n[AR] resettlement from Persia to Karabakh, after it came under Russian\n[AR] rule. \n\nNo, incorrect. The 1988 celebration was the 150th anniversary of Russian rule\nin the Caucasus, including Karabakh!\n\n[AR] At the same time the Russian colonial administration also drew\n[AR] in Russian and German settlers, who were welcomed by Azeris.  How\n[AR] would Americans react if the large numbers of Armenians living in\n[AR] southern California suddenly claimed an Armenian homeland, and\n[AR] demanded separation from California?\n\nNon-sequitur. \n \n[AR] Armenian historians insist that before the Armenian resettlement\n[AR] Karabakh was inhabited by aboriginal Christians.  That is correct.\n\nArmenian historians don't say this!\n\n[AR] The people of medieval Caucasian Albania adopted Christianity in the\n[AR] fourth century.  But those ancient residents had no link to and\n[AR] nothing in common with Armenians.\n\nConsidering the Caucasian Albans were of the Armenian Apostolic faith, and\ntheir utilization of the Armenian language in their liturgy, makes such an \nargument totally invalid!\n\n[AR] Azeris would have a better claim to\n[AR] be successors of Albania, since Azeris have for centuries inhabited,\n[AR] dominated, and developed the Karabakh part of the Azeri nation.\n\nWishing to be part of a people non-existent for nearly a millennium for geo-\npolitical advantage is rather outrageous. In addition to such absurdity,\nAzeris claim to be Turks, Persians, and all the while are Azerizing their\nminorities, such as the Lezgians, Kurds, Tat, Talish, and a host of other\nnationalities which may amount to nearly half the population of Azerbaijan.\n\n[AR] Both Armenia and Azerbaijan last year signed the Final Act of the\n[AR] Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe of 1975, and the\n[AR] Paris Charter for New Europe of 1990, confirming their mutual\n[AR] adherence to the principle of inviolability of existing borders.  This\n[AR] principle means that the borders and territorial integrity of the\n[AR] Republic of Azerbaijan are to be guaranteed by all of the signatory\n[AR] nations, not just by Turkey.\n\nSuch agreements do not give Azerbaijan the right to de-populate Karabakh of\nArmenians.\n \n[AR] This is one key to intervention on behalf either of the U.N., the\n[AR] CSCE, the Commonwealth, NATO or Iran.  The second key to untying the\n[AR] Caucasian knot is to determine who is the aggressor, according to the\n[AR] U.N. definition of 1974.\n\nFine, so why has Azerbaijan refused to allow UN troops into the Armenian\nenclave? What is Azerbaijan afraid of? Perhaps the fact that the territory\nis the home of Armenians, the UN, would by definition, support the local\npopulation! \n \n[AR] When that is accomplished, the international community can and should\n[AR] apply to the aggressor in the Caucasus international sanctions such as\n[AR] those presently being employed against Serbia and Montenegro in the\n[AR] former Yugoslavia.  Such decisive collective international action can\n[AR] halt further aggression in Karabakh, and prevent the Armenian-Azeri\n[AR] conflict from growing and spreading.\n \nAzerbaijan's refusal to allow the Armenians of Karabakh to determine their\nown future the is issue, not viewing isolating events out of context are \nactions that will address the Karabakh conflict. Viewing events in a war\nin isolation and out of context is like viewing the landing at Normandy as\nan act of Allied aggression! \n \n[AR] Dr. Alec Rasizade, senior research officer at the Academy of Sciences\n[AR] of Azerbaijan, is a visiting researcher at the Harriman Institute of\n[AR] Columbia University in New York.\n\nHa!\n\n ","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"+>\n+>\tRecently, I heard the Red Sox on WROL a Spanish-speaking radio station.\n+>I thought it was so unreal. The Red Sox in Spanish? Anyway, I want to find\n+>out how widespread this is? Being a NY native, I know the scMets are on in\n+>Spanish but not the Yankmes. I wuold think that LA,SD,Texas and Fla are on\n+>in Spanish. Are there any Spanish-speaking networks or is this a local\n\nThe braves day games are broadcast is Spanish on a station called \"La\nFavorita\".  (the station has a daytime liscence only).","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"        Check out the shocks where they mount, at both ends. if you have\n    the type that have a loop?,from lack of a better term, and a bolt like\n   piece sticking through, there should be a rubber bushing between the loop\n   and the bolt. Is it there ? is it crushed and allowing metal to metal\n    contact?  I hope you can make some sense of this. Good Luck.>\n\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI didn't say to visit some \"nice\" homosexuals.  I said \"visit some congregations\nof Christians..spirit-filled believers..\"\n\n\nPraise the Lord that we are all members of the same body.  Let us agree to\ndisagree.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Two years ago Mark Messier appeared on David Letterman the summer he signed wit\nh the Rangers.  I remember he and Mike Gartner taking slapshots at the camera,\n one finally was a bullseye and the screen went blank.  It was funny if you saw\n it, I guess.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nMoney probably has a lot to do with keeping the practice of routine \ncircumcision alive... It's another opporitunity to charge a few hundred\nextra bucks for a completely unnecessary procedure, the rationale for \nwhich until recently has been accepted without question by most\nparents of newborns.  \n\nOne could also imagine that complications arising from circumcision\n(infections, sloppy jobs, etc) are far more common than the remote chance\nof penile cancer it is purported to prevent.  \n \n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n  But the \"values and systems that make the rich rich\" all basically\n  amount to freedom of choice. \n\n  In New England in 1800 the entire economy was based on the small family\n  farm.   Farm economy households were economically diversified, producing\n  not only agricultural goods but also \"manufactured\" goods, especially \n  cloth.  Many farm women carded, spun, and\/or wove, producing not only\n  cloth for their own family but also to sell, generating extra income.\n\n  But about this time the Industrial Revolution was underway in England\n  and by the 1820's it had moved to the US, in both cases in the form \n  of textile mills.  These mills could produce cloth far more efficiently\n  and cheaply than people at home.  \n\n  The result was that an important source of home income was wiped out\n  and many of these women were compelled by economic circumstance to \n  go to work in these same mills in Lowell, Mass, or Nashua, NH, where\n  they worked 73 hour weeks in deafening, dangerous conditions, living \n  regimented lives and being exposed to cotton-dust and infectious dis-\n  eases due to the work.\n\n  Now people didn't *HAVE* to buy the cheaper factory-made cloth. \n  They were free to keep buying the home-made variety and support\n  their local economy . . . \n\n\n  . . . but (sorry for the cliche), \"it takes two to tango\".   The big\n  rich corporations achieved that wealth because we buy their stuff.\n  It used to be the case that the business center of a town was also \n  its social center.  You KNEW the merchants you did business with \n  or even local kids working behind the counter.   You would see\n  people on the street whom you knew and you could stop for a chat.\n\n  Nowadays local merchants are going out of business and people shop \n  at huge anonymous malls serving regional populations of hundreds of\n  thousands or millions.  You have no particular relationship with the\n  companies you do business with, and feel no particular commitment\n  to them, nor they to you.   Major components of what defines a \"com-\n  munity\" have been destroyed.   On the other hand the products we buy\n  at these malls are a lot cheaper due to economies of scale and foreign\n  manufacture, and they are probably of better, or at least more consistent,\n  quality.\n\n\n\n  Don't blame the conservatives for this.  Everyone makes their own\n  individual choice and the liberals and the fence-sitters are just\n  as guilty of pretending there are no social and cultural consequences\n  to economic choices.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nThank you, Steve.  It is refreshing to have someone accuse me of being\na Christian.  I only hope enough evidence can be garnered to get a\nconviction.  I am not certain what you mean by the \"fundy\" part as the\nterm fundamentalist has a wide variety of uses.  If you refer to\nthose who actually believe Jesus is the Messiah and Son of God and\nwish to follow in his way, then I plead guilty.  But what does it\nmatter what I think.  The Roman circus is over.  The lions have been\nsatisfied -- for now.  The Emperor, after the long and gruelling\nstruggle, sensed the crowd was tiring and gave thumbs down.\n\nWith respect to my previous comments about David Koresh, I urge you\nto re-examine my previous posts.  I believe you mistakenly assume\nthat defense of Koresh' right to his own personal beliefs and his\nright to express them to others implies agreement with Koresh'\ntheology.  Actually I understand little about the details of Branch-\nDavidian teachings and regret so many are hung-up on that aspect\nof the tragic events of the past few days.\n\nNor do I think Koresh' sex life should be of any interest to the\nfederal government.  Of course Hillary says he had been molesting\ninfants so it must be true even though such allegations do not\nfall under the jurisdiction of the federal government; they are\nstate and local matters and have been thoroughly reviewed at the\nlocal level by proper authorities with no successful charge having\never been levied against him.  Under American law, he was innocent\nas Americans are presumed innocent until proven guilty.  At least\nthat's how it is suppposed to be.  But he was demonized and propa-\ngandized against by a powerful machine to have him appear as a\nlustful beast and therefore deserving of every ill the fates might\nbring upon him.  \n\nBut evidence trickles in that the twenty-one children, who left the\nbuilding in the early days of the siege,  were carefully examined\nby qualified authorities for evidence of physical or sexual abuse\nand none was found.  DeGuerin, one of the attorneys who met with\nDavidians several times before the conflagration, reported that\nthe children seemed well adjusted and showed no sign of abuse.\n\nUltimately, Steve, what I think about the heart of David Koresh\nis quite unimportant.  Today he is in the benevolent hands of a\nmost wise and merciful judge who will one day surely judge us all.\nSo I withhold any judgment of David Koresh and defer to the One\nwho has all knowledge.  Meanwhile, let's clean up the mess left\non earth and keep this from happening again by sending a strong\nmessage to the government to respect the inalienable rights of the\npeople it serves.\n\n--Joe Gaut","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Hi all.  I'm looking for datasets of a human body or head  in any\nof the popular formats.  I'm doing a presentation tomorrow which\ncould be greatly enhanced by bringing in this 'human' factor.  I've\nlooked around the net with no sucess so far.  Anyone got any ideas?\nI'd also appreciate info on the location of datasets for the\nUSS Enterprise (any model)\nThanks in advance,\nRonan\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nIt is indeed nice to have fans that are concerned about the dearth of\ndisputatious dissertation linked to my hiatus.  Have simply been too\ndamned busy lately to keep you lads and lassies entertained.  You can\nbe sure, however, that I will somehow manage to find time to woof if \nthe Leafs give just cause. \n\nAnd let's all try to keep people's names (especially mine) out of the\nsubject headers.  I, for one, neither seek nor enjoy such a cheap form\nof notoriety.\n\nOne thing you can be assured of, however, is this: the Leafs are the\nbest of all the teams in the league that have allowed 12 goals in 2 \ngames.\n\n\n-- ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n...execellent examples of Luther's insane rantings deleted...\n\nGee, I'm *sooooo* surprised that they don't teach this part of his\nideology in high schools today.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nBeing a chronic HBsAg carrier does not necessarily mean the patient has chronic\npersistent anything. Persons who are chronic carriers may have no clinical,\nbiochemical, or histologic evidence of liver disease, or they may have chronic\npersistent hepatitis, chronic active hepatitis, cirrhosis, or hepatocellular\ncarcinoma.\n\nMost cases of chronic persistent hepatitis (CPH) are probably the result of\na viral infection, although in a good number of cases the cause cannot be\ndetermined. The diagnosis of CPH is made on the basis of liver biopsy. It\nconsists of findings of portal inflammation, an intact periportal limiting\nplate, and on occasion isolated foci of intralobular necrosis. But in contrast\nto chronic active hepatitis (CAH) there is no periportal inflammation, \nbridging necrosis, or fibrosis. \n\nCPH has, indeed, an excellent prognosis. If I had to choose between CAH and\nCPH there is no question I would also choose CPH. However, as David pointed\nout, the distinction between the two is not as neat as some of us would have\nit. The histology can sometimes be pretty equivocal, with biopsies showing\nareas compatible with both CPH and CAH. Maybe it is a sampling problem. Maybe\nit is a continuum. I don't know.\n\n=================================","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Here follows a headerless (my editing) email message in full (except for the\nheader) sent to me by congruent corporation today. I received it about 5\nminutes ago, and still haven't read it.\n\nHave fun.\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nProduct Overview\n\tAllows Existing Unix\/X Applications to be hosted on Windows NT\n\tIncludes Common X Support Clients\n\tSupports X Terminals\n\tProvides Multiuser NT\n\tFacilitates Porting Unix\/X Applications to Window NT\n\tBSD Behavior\n\tX Programming Libraries\n\t\nTarget Market\n\tCustomers With Unix\/X Applications Who Want To Standardize On Windows NT\n\tAllows Hosting On Windows NT With Minimal Effort\n\tPermits X Clients On Single Windows NT System To Support Multiple Users\n\tX Servers Can Be X Terminals, Unix Based, NT Based, Windows Based\n\t\nBSD Library Behavior\n\tMinimize Unix Porting Effort\n\tLayered Above Standard C Libraries\/WINSOCK\n\tNT Registry Path\/Drive Replacement\n\tBSD Include File Layout\n\tTrue Berkeley Sockets\n\tSupplies Common BSD Functions Missing From NT\n\nX Programming Libraries\n\tComplete X.V11R5 Libraries\n\tMotif Widget Libraries\n\tMotif UIL\n\tRegistry Based X Configuration Locator\n\tDirect to Windows GDI via \"local socket\" winnt:0\n\nX Support Applications\n\tIncludes Full Set Of X Client Applications\n\tMotif Window Manager (MWM)\n\nMultiuser NT Capabilities\n\tNtNixTerm: Special Adaptation of Xterm\n\tSpecial NT Hosted Command Shell\n\tProvides LOGNAME, HOME facilities\n\tMultiple Users on Multiple X Servers Can Simultaneously Access Single NT System\n\nX Terminal Support\n\tBOOTP to Boot X Terminals\n\tTFTPD For Font Loading\n\tFont Server For Scaled X Fonts\n\tXRemote for Serial SLIP X\n\ninfo@com.congruent (Congruent Information)\n-- \nsnail@lsl.co.uk      ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nMatt's problem is really more ability than attitude.  It isn't that he's\ngot it in his mind that he wants to swing away, but rather that he's\n(still) a total sucker for the curve ball.  It looked for a while in\n1990 that he was getting better but it's still his weak point.\n\nAs to whether it does him any good to have Bonds behind him, the \nnet.stat.mavens will probably tell you there's no reason that it\nshould, but if he thinks it will, it might be a self-fulfilling\nprophecy.\n\nAs to whether the Giants' lineup is optimal:  who knows?  Batting Bonds,\nthe team's best hitter, fifth does seem to be odd, but the #1 and #2\nhitters aren't exactly Messrs. OBA, so they aren't giving much up\nthere.  And although Clark isn't the overall offensive force that Bonds\nis, he seems better suited to the #3 spot.  Assuming, of course, that\nhe starts hitting one of these days...\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nI get regular questions about gamma correction since I go to great pains to\ndeal with it properly in xli (the image loader program I maintain).\n\nHere is an explanation I often use to answer these questions.\n\nThis might be suitable for inclusion in the FAQ.\n\n\tGraeme Gill.\n\n###########################################################################\n\"A note on gamma correction and images\"\n\nAuthor: Graeme W. Gill\n        graeme@labtam.oz.au\n\nDate: 93\/5\/16\n\n\n\"What is all this gamma stuff anyway ?\"\n--------------------------------------\n\nAlthough it would be nice to think that \"an image is an image\",\nthere are a lot of complications. Not only are there a whole bunch of\ndifferent image formats (gif, jpeg, tiff etc etc), there is a whole\nlot of other technical stuff that makes dealing with images a bit\ncomplicated. Gamma is one of those things. If you've ever downloaded\nimages from BBS or the net, you've probably noticed (with most image\nviewing programs) that some images look ok, some look too dark, and some\nlook too light. \"Why is this ?\" you may ask. This, is gamma correction\n(or the lack of it).\n\nWhy do we need gamma correction at all ?\n--------------------------------------\n\nGamma correction is needed because of the nature of CRTs (cathode\nray tubes - the monitors usually used for viewing images). If you\nhave some sort of real live scene and turn it into a computer\nimage by measuring the amount of light coming from each point of\nthe scene, then you have created a \"linear\" or un-gamma-corrected\nimage. This is a good thing in many ways because you can manipulate\nthe image as if the values in the image file were light (ie. adding\nand multiplying will work just like real light in the real world).\nNow if you take the image file and turn each pixel value into a voltage\nand feed it into a CRT, you find that the CRT _doesn't_ give you\nan amount of light proportional to the voltage. The amount of light\ncoming from the phosphor in the screen depends on the the voltage\nsomething like this:\n\nLight_out = voltage ^ crt_gamma\n\nSo if you just dump your nice linear image out to a CRT, the image\nwill look much too dark. To fix this up you have to \"gamma correct\"\nthe image first. You need to do the opposite of what the CRT\nwill do to the image, so that things cancel out, and you get\nwhat you want. So you have to do this to your image:\n\ngamma_corrected_image = image ^ (1\/crt_gamma)\n\nFor most CRTs, the crt_gamma is somewhere between 1.0 and 3.0.\n\nIf that is all it is, why does it seem so complicated ?\n-----------------------------------------------------\n\nThe problem is that not all display programs do gamma correction.\nAlso not all sources of images give you linear images (Video cameras\nor video signals in general). Because of this, a lot of images\nalready have some gamma correction done to them, and you are \nrarely sure how much. If you try and display one of those images\nwith a program that does gamma correction for you, the image gets\ncorrected twice and looks way to light. If you display one of those\nimages with a program that doesn't do gamma correction, then it will\nlook vaguely right, but not perfect, because the gamma correction is\nnot exactly right for you particular CRT.\n\nWhose fault is all this ?\n-----------------------\n\nIt is really three things. One is all those display programs\nout there that don't do gamma correction properly. Another is\nthat most image formats don't specify a standard gamma, or\ndon't have some way or recording what their gamma correction is.\nThe third thing is that not many people understand what gamma\ncorrection is all about, and create a lot of images with varying\ngamma's.\n\nAt least two file formats do the right thing.\nThe Utah Graphics Toolkit .rle format has a semi-standard way of recording\nthe gamma of an image. The JFIF file standard (that uses JPEG compression)\nspecifies that the image to be encoded must have a gamma of 1.0 (ie. a\nlinear image - but not everyone obeys the rules).\n\nSome image loaders (for instance xli - an X11 image utility)\nallow you to specify not only the gamma of the monitor you\nare using, but the individual gamma values of image you are trying to\nview. Other image viewers (eg. xv another X11 image program) and\nutilities (eg. the pbm toolkit) provide ways of changing the gamma\nof an image, but you have to figure out the overall gamma correction\nyourself, allowing for undoing any gamma correction the image has,\nand then the gamma correction you need to suite your CRT monitor.\n\n[ Note that xv 2.21 doesn't provide an easy way of modifying the\ngamma of an image. You need to adjust the R, G and B curves to the\nappropriate gamma in the ColEdit controls. Altering the Intensity\nin the HSV controls doesn't do the right thing, as it fails to\ntake account of the effect gamma has on H and S. This tends\nto give a tint to the image. ]\n\nHow can I figure out what my viewer does, or what gamma my screen has ?\n---------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nThe simplest way to do that is to try loading the file chkgamma.jpg\n(provided with xli distribution), which is a JFIF jpeg format file\ncontaining two grayscale ramps. The ramps are chosen to look linear\nto the human eye, one using continuous tones, and the other using\ndithering.  If your viewer does the right thing and gamma corrects\nimages, then the two ramps should look symmetrical, and the point\nat which they look equally bright should be almost exactly half\nway from the top to the bottom. (To find this point it helps if\nyou move away a little from the screen, and de-focus your eyes a\nbit.)\n\nIf your viewer doesn't do gamma correction, then left hand ramp will have\na long dark part and a short white part, and the point of equal brightness\nwill be above the center.\n\nIf your viewer does have a way of setting the right amount of gamma correction\nfor a display, then if the equal brightness point is above center increase the\ngamma, and decrease it if it is below the center. The value will usually be\naround 2.2 \n\n[with xli for instance, you can adjust the display gamma with the\n-dispgamma flag, and once you've got it right, you can set the DISPLAY_GAMMA\nenvironment variable in your .profile]\n\nHow do I figure out what the gamma of an image is ?\n-------------------------------------------------\n\nThis is the most tricky bit. As a general rule it seems that a lot of\ntrue color (ie. 24 bit, .ppm .jpg) images have a gamma of\n1.0 (linear), although there are many about that have some gamma\ncorrection. It seems that the majority of pseudo color images\n(ie. 8 bit images with color maps - .gif etc.) are gamma corrected\nto some degree or other.\n\nIf your viewer does gamma correction then linear images will\nlook good, and gamma corrected images will look too light.\n\nIf your viewer doesn't do gamma correction, then linear images will\nlook too dark, and gamma corrected images will ok.\n\nWhy Linear images are sometimes not such a good thing\n-----------------------------------------------------\n\nOne of the reason that many high quality formats (such as\nVideo) use gamma correction is that it actually makes better\nuse of the storage medium. This is because the human\neye has a logarithmic response to light, and gamma correction\nhas a similar compression characteristic. This means images \ncould make better use of 8 bits per color (for instance),\nif they used gamma correction. The implication though, is that\nevery time you want to do any image processing you should\nconvert the 8 bit image to 12 or so linear bits to retain\nthe same accuracy. Since little popular software does this, and\nnone of the popular image formats can agree on a standard\ngamma correction factor, it is difficult to justify gamma corrected\nimages at the popular level.\n\nIf some image formats can standardize on a particular gamma,\nand if image manipulation software takes care to use\nextra precision when dealing with linearized internal data,\nthen gamma corrected distribution of images would be a good thing.\n\n(I am told that the Kodak PhotoCD format for instance, has a\nstandard gamma correction factor that enables it to get the\nhighest quality out of the bits used to hold the image).","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"FOR SALE:\n\nApple Macintosh LC; 2 MB RAM, 40 MB HDD, FDD.\nAppleColor 13\" Hi-Res RGB Monitor.\nKeyboard, Mouse, Microphone, & Kensington MasterPiece Mac II.\nRunning System 7.  All documentation and manuals.\nSymantec GreatWorks 1.00 & Mac Tools Deluxe 1.2\nloaded on HDD.  All disks and manuals included.\nAll hardware in MINT condition, used a total of 60 minutes.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing wrong with this system,\nI just can't get used to a MAC after using a PC.\n\n$800 + shipping costs (non-negotiable).\n\nAlso, as an *option* only to the person who purchases the above:\n\nApple StyleWriter Printer with Accessory Kit.\nBrand new, NEVER used, in factory-sealed carton.\n\n$200 + shipping costs.\n\nReply via e-mail to <david.morgan@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us>\nand leave phone number (fast) or call 313-552-1769 (24-hr.\nvoice mail) (FASTER).  Serious inquiries only, please.  First come,\nfirst served.\n\n(This ad was originally posted to this conference a couple of weeks\nago, but the first \"buyer\" couldn't finance the purchase and I\naccidentally killed all other replies.  Sorry.)\n                                                                                    ","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I have a few the original IBM 10Mb harddisks for sale. They are actually\nSeagate's ST412, MFM, full height,  has the IBM logo and black face plate. \n \n  Each disk is checked and formatted with DOS 5.0. It can be doubled to \n20Mb or so with dblspace or stacker if you so desire.  Have the original IBM\nfoam fitted boxies and anti-static bags. I am not sure if they were ever \nused, but each drive that is sent out will be quarenteed in good working order. \n \n $30 each plus shipping cost, (about $5), ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nvamilliron:  Yes, Intel's PCI is (another) Local Bus standard, which\ncan be used for graphics, although I believe Local Buses can be used\nfor other things, too.  As far as I know, though, PCI Local Bus \nwould compete with VESA Local Bus, not the VESA graphics standard, but\nothers more enlightened might be able to shed more light on this\nmatter.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nActually, the record of the Allies activities, in the face of\nincontrovertible evidence as to what the Nazis (may they rot in hell)\nwere doing, clearly points to the conclusion that they would have done\nnothing.  The railways to the camps were not bombed, despite the ease\nof doing so.  The US, the \"place of refuge\" allowed in a bare pittance\nof Jews from Europe, primarily for public relations, so that the\ngovernment could say it was \"doing something\".  Many ships with\nrefugees were turned away from US shores; some found refuge in Cuba or\nSouth America, many others sunk or had to return to Europe (with\npredictable consequences).  The hope today is that we have\ncollectively learned a lesson, and are less complacent to ignore other\ncountries' \"internal affairs\".  The sad reality is that this does not\nseem to be the case.\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
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{"text":"\n\nHey don't confuse these guys with facts dude! You might break some\nbeautiful illusions!\n\nOf course by BATF admits this they mean that the BATF did not deny some\npost by a pro-Koresh\/gun lobby person some time back.\n\nIf anyone wants to understand the paranoid mindset of Koresh I offer you\ntalk.politics.guns. There you can dredge the sewers of minds so hung\nup on power and ego trips that they bend reality arround their own\nparticular set of beleifs.\n\nI long ago gave up arguing the case for arms control directly. Instead\nI invite people to ask themselves, would you want to be in a room full\nof the occupants of talk.politics.guns, their personal armouries and\nattempt to enter a discussion with them?\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nNot true. Only an observer at rest at infinite distance from the black hole\nwill see the particle take infinite time to reach the horizon. In the\nparticle's own reference frame, it takes a very finite time to reach the\nhorizon and the singularity. The math does indeed predict this. Take a look\nat Mitchner, Thorne, and Wheeler's _Gravitation_.\n\nPeter Walker","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nSorry, I still don't buy it.  You're certainly right that the runner is\nnot out merely for running out of the baseline: he must interfere with\nthe play.  But the argument here is over what constitutes interference.\nYou certainly cannot infer from what you've quoted that the batter-runner\nmust be hit by the ball to be guilty of interference: you haven't posted\na definition of interference at all.\n\nIMO this calls for one of the \"approved ruling[s]\" that go in small print\nin the rulebook.  Something like:\n\nAPPROVED RULING:\nIf in the judgement of the umpire the runner, by running to the left\nof the allowed path, caused the fielder to make a bad throw, blocks the\nvision of the fielder receiving the throw, or otherwise impedes the\ndefensive team's making a play on him, the batter-runner shall be\njudeged guilty of interference.\n\nor\n\nAPPROVED RULING:\nThe runner cannot be judged guilty of interference in the unless he makes\ncontact with a fielder or is hit by the thrown ball.\n\n--\nIn the absence of such an approved ruling I claim that this is a poor\nrules trivia question--since it cannot be authoritatively answered.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nConsidering the magnitude of loss of life in both the Moro Castle\nand Titanic disasters,  I can't believe you can be so blithe\nthere fred.\n\nBesides if a LNG tanker breaks up in a close harbor, you can kiss\noff quite a lot of population.  same thing for any chemical\ntankers.\n\nI know the coast guard makes  mandatory safety equipment\nchecks on all watercraft.  they use this as an excuse to\nmake narcotics  searches, without warrants.\n\nI suspect, that  commercial craft need a certificate at least similiar\nin scope to an air worthiness certificate from the DOT.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nhere they are $25 for ERC and $50 for MSF. and no\nthe state doesn't subsidize ours at all. we do.\n$1 for every motorcycle endorsed license.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nOnly if he was a \"true motorcyclist with the real riding attitude.\"  As you\nprobably are aware, there is a sure-fire rec.moto test for this attribute.\n\n\nWhy?  You think (s)he's worried about road-rash?","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nThink we can lose the sci.image.processing group from this thread,\nfolks?\n\nThanks bunches.\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\tspl","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nWell, almost NuBUS 90 anyway, comprehensive bus contention between processors\nis not supported in the current Macintoshes, could be wrong?\n\nHowever, I know for a fact from seeing the Cyclone Data Spec sheets myself,\ndon't ask, Macintosh Cyclone models will provide full implementation of the\nNuBUS standard.\n\nVery interesting possibilities indeed!\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nOf course you can.  You just have to be careful about what conclusions\nyou draw.\n\n\nHuh?  The 20's and 30's were the *worst* decades for great pitching.  Grove,\nVance, Dean, and not a whole lot else.  \n\nAs for the best all-around hitters, stat-wise, Ruth, Gehrig, Foxx, Greenberg,\nHornsby, Cobb, etc. all played before the 40's.  Stat-wise, the 60's were \na graveyard for hitters.\n\n\nHow do you know?  Which ones do you consider great?\n\n\nSo?  Sheffield also has better shoes.  More time between pitches.  You can\nrun the comparison, but there are *lots* of things to take into account.\n\n\nWell, can we compare them or can't we?\n\n\nWhy?  We can compare players to the *standard* of their era; and we can\nkeep in mind era-to-era differences without throwing up our hands in\ndespair.\n\n\nYou haven't shown us what's *un*reasonable about the MAntle-Sheffield\ncomparison that you yourself did.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nWill someone please post the David Sternlight FAQ to alt.privacy.clipper before\nsomeone unfamiliar with him takes him seriously and starts yet another\nflame fest?","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nThey've been out of busines for years.\n\n\nNot any more.  About 2 years ago they all closed.\nWhen Ramco\/Electronics city closed, it took weeks and many\ndumpsters to clear everything out (so I heard).\nThere are a few places that sell connectors and phone wires,\nbut no chips, capacitors or discrete stuff.\n\nSylvan\/Wellington is still on Broadway and Canal, but they're\nnot cheap, and not surplus.  It's mostly a TV repairman's store.\n\n-- Jeffrey Jonas\njeffj@panix.com\n-- \nJeffrey Jonas","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Has someone scanned in an artist's rendering of Aurora?  If so, is the GIF\navailable somewhere?\n\nPlease reply via email.\n\nThanks,\n\n\nCraig","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\nIn Shreveport, back when I was riding the Purple Water Buffalo, I jumped an \nintersection IN FRONT OF A COP who was waiting for the light!  The side of \nthe street he was on was hidden buy a building on the corner and I didn't \nsee him till I was airborne in the middle of the intersection.  I was \nparked, had my helment off and my liscence out before he turned the corner.  \nHe chewed my ass out and let me go!  I will be the first to admit it was a \nvery squidly thing to do, jumping the intersection like that.  The cop \nshould have nailed me.  I find that if you are polite, respectfull and \nhonest, they will normaly let you get away with a LOT of stuff.\n\nP.S. The shock mounts folded up the next day.  I guess I deserved that!\n\n ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====----","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I use a Nanao 20\" Multisync and switch between a Windows 1024x768 and\na Sparc 1+ display.  Works quite well at these resolutions.\n\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------\nMichael C. Busby                |  Unix System Support\nSystem Engineer, Sr.            |  Design Environment\/Automation\nCompaq Computer Corporation     |  Internet: mcb@compaq.com        \nP.O. Box 692000 m\/s 050701      |  Uunet:    uunet!cpqhou!michaelb \nHouston, Texas, USA 77269-2000  |  Phone:    713-374-5638          ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n   A good source of information on Burzynski's method is in *The Cancer Industry*\n   by pulitzer-prize nominee Ralph Moss.\n\nInteresting. What book got Moss the pulitzer nomination? None of the\nflyers for his books mention this, and none of the Cancer Chronicle\nNewsletters that I have mention this either.\n\n   Also, a non-profit organization called \"People Against Cancer,\"\n   which was formed for the purpose of allowing cancer patients to\n   access information regarding cancer therapies not endorsed by the\n   cancer industry, but which have shown highly promising results (all\n   of which are non-toxic).\n\nMoss is People Against Cancer's Director of Communications. People\nAgainst Cancer seems to offer pretty questionable information, not\nexactly the place a cancer patient should be advised to turn to. Most\n(maybe all) of the infomation in their latest catalogue concern\ntreatments that have been shown to be ineffective against cancer, and\nmany of the treatments are quite dangerous as well.\n\nsdb","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n486DX2\/66 is faster for this if you are using DOS. PC Mag reviewed a bunch\nof 486DX2\/66 and a 486DX50 and the486DX2\/66 was faster...\n\nTHe review was in the last month of two.\n\n\nGuy","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nand didn't you also say that it was easier to add masses than to\nadd balance shafts?  the sad truth is that some makers don't\nbother to put balance shafts on their big shaky 4's..\n\n\nhow about:\n\t    1\t 3\n\t   __    __\n\t  |  |  |  |\n\t__|  |  |  |   __\n\t     |  |  |  |\n\t     |__|  |__|\n\t\n\t       2     4\t\t\n\nif this is ridiculous, kindly explain why.. it's been more than 10 years\nsince i studied this stuff.  :-)\n\n\n\nthe point that they are trying to make is that while everybody settles\nfor the orthodox inline 4, they are using a horizontally opposed 4,\nwhich is unique in that market segment.  and porsche also uses a flat\nsix in their 911, so what's the problem?  i don't see any claim that\ntheir engine is as good as a porsche's.. they are simply pointing out\nthat they use the same configuration as a porsche.. if you want to\nnitpick ad campaigns, i think there are far more blatant excesses than\nthis.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I`ve been happy with aXe under Linux. Now I wanted to use it under HP-UX,\ntoo. However, my attempts have ended in core dumps this far (Bus Error).\n\nHas anybody else been more successful? Jim Wight`s INSTALL file does\nsay there have been problems with HP`s...\n\nData: aXe 5.0; HP-UX 9.01; X11R4 or X11R5 doesn`t seem to matter (shared\nlibs); HP 9000\/720.\n\nThanks in advance,\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"As the title says...Does anyone know of a Text editor (like notepad) that\ncan handle large text files?....Thanx for any and all help!\n\n________________________________________________________________________","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\ni'm looking for a Driver for an IBM 3852-2 Color Ink Jet Printer.\nAny pointers are welcome.\n\nthanks in advance\n\n\nRalf\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I have replaced the osz to 66 MHz yesterday and no truble at all. My Quadra now works at 33 MHz stable for more than 14 hours. I have also tried a 70 MHz osz, but after 1\/2 hour my Quadra 700 died. I am not sure what was the reason for that,\nbut it is to risky to run it to fast. Most of your Quadras 700 should work at 33 MHz without any problems. \n\nBut a safety tip do a backup from your harddisk befor you start to upgrade. During my 35 MHz test I damaged my harddisk and had a hardtime to get it working again. So once again do a backup befor you start!!!!!!!!!\n\nNow the speedometer results after replacing the osz.\n\nSpeedometer Report for menes rainer. Prepared April 22, 1993.\n\nMachine Record Version #: 5\n\n\nUser Comment:\nQuadra 700 33Mhz and Ram Disk\n20 MByte RAM + 2 MByte VRAM\n\nSystem Information:\nComputer: Mac Quadra 700\nCPU: MC68040\nFPU: Integral FPU\nMMU: Integral MMU\nColor Quickdraw: 2.30 (32 Bit QD)\nSystem Version: 7.1.6\nFinder Version: D1-7.1\nAppleTalk Version: 57\nLaserWriter Version: D1-7.1.2\nLaser Prep Version: Not Found\nImageWriter Version: D1-7.0.1\nROM Version: $067C\nROM Size: 1024\nBit Depth: 1\nHorizontal DPI: 72\nVertical DPI: 72\nPrimary Screen Size: 832 x 624\nPhysical RAM: 20480K\nLogical RAM: 20454K\n\nP.R. Results (Uses Mac Classic as 1.0):\nCPU: 21.625\nGraphics: 30.052\nDisk: 28.351     Name of Hard Disk tested: RAM Disk\nMath: 135.128\nPerformance Rating (PR): 36.848\n\nBenchmark Results (Uses Mac Classic as 1.0):\nKWhetstones: 1500.000     205.479\nDhrystones: 26315.789     27.008\nTowers: 24.960\nQuickSort: 22.391\nBubble Sort: 23.823\nQueens: 24.105\nPuzzle: 28.804\nPermutations: 26.523\nFast Fourier: 167.728\nF.P. Matrix Multiply: 154.452\nInteger Matrix Multiply: 30.250\nSieve: 25.602\nBenchmark Average: 63.427\n\nFPU Tests (Uses Mac II as 1.0):\n@@FFPU Fast Fourier: 14.636\nFPU KWhetstones: 5454.545     7.636\nFPU F.P. Matrix Mult.: 14.333\nFPU Test Average: 12.202\n\nColor Tests (Uses Mac II as 1.0):\nBlack & White: 6.395\n4 Colors: 6.773\n16 Colors: 6.957\n256 Colors: 7.016\nColor Test Average: 6.785\n\nVery interesting are the graphics results (Graphics 30.052) couldn't belief this, but it is true. Two points which my cause problems are the 4 MByte Ram solder on the board. The are only 80ns Rams and run at the upperlimit with 33 MHz. The next part which may cause trouble are the Video Rams. I have the orignal 100ns VRAMs from Apple in my Quadra, here you are also at the upperlimit where most of the chips running but it isn't garantied to run. Most of the other parts on the Quadra board running on there o\n\n\n\n\nwn clockspeed so they wont make truble.\n\nThe most importaned question is do I neat a new heat sink. I would say NO. After running my Quadra for more than 14 hours the heat sink is really cool. A 33 MHz 486 with heat sink is mutch warmer than the 68040 in the Quadra, so I didn't see any problems. The room temperatur was 22 Celsius (72 F). If you living in a area were it is hot 100 F (45 C) and your room temperatur is not mutch below I would suggest a new heat sink with a ventilator to stay on the safe side.\n\n\nHope you will have the same success than I had,\n\nRainer","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nAs I read the current wiretap law, it would not be legal now.  On the\nother hand, assuming a legislative change, recording but not decrypting\nClipper conversations would probably be found constitutional by the Supreme\nCourt, using the same reasoning (or the lack thereof...) by which they\npermit random roadblocks to check for drunk drivers.\n\nIncidentally, if we use that as our model, the Court will likely not\nuphold selective recording.  (On the other hand, I don't think they've\nthrown out ``drug courier profiles'' yet.  Must be that exception to\nthe Fourth Amendment that I can never find in my copy of the Bill of\nRights.)\n\nA lot -- and I mean a *lot* -- will depend on exactly how Clippertaps\n(or Tipperclaps, for encrypted music?) are used.  Don Alvarez showed in\nthe latest RISKS digest that it's possible to prevent the cops from\nreading traffic after their warrant expires.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"In order to have formulate a rational position on what cryptography\npolicies are acceptable, we must set forth a list of basic requirements.\nI would propose the following as a starting point:\n\n  1. The algorithm must be publicly known, and must have a record of\n       surviving attempts by outside experts to find weaknesses.\n\n  2. The system implementation must make it possible to verify that the\n       advertised algorithm is, in fact, the one that is being used.\n\n  3. The key must be quickly changeable by the user, and must be of a\n       sufficient length and complexity to defeat any brute-force search\n       possible now or in the reasonably near future.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nI know it's very trendy nowadays to dump on Morris, but let's give credit\nwhere credit is due.\n\nIt is doubtful that the blue jays would have won the AL east without Morris.\nLast year, when the team went 13-15 for the month of August, and all the \nother starters were being shelled, and Milwaukee was making a charge,\nMorris went 5-1 with a pretty good era (I can't remember exactly).\nAlso, let's not underestimate the importance his 240+ innings to save \nthe bullpen every fifth day.  If he didn't help us win the AL east, forget\nabout the pennent and the world series.\n\nHis run support was high (5.98 runs) but so was Stottlemyer's (5.90 runs)\nand he won only 12 games.  I do remember Morris winning an inordinate number of\n6-5 and 8-6 ballgames, but this is to his credit.  He pitched only as good\nas he needed to be.  When he was up 6-1 in a ballgame, he just put it in cruise\ncontrol and threw the ball up there and let the batters \"get themseleves out\"\n(I hate this expression!).  An inexperienced pitcher would wear himself out \ntrying to make perfect pitches to keep his era down.  But Morris, being a \nveteran pitcher, knows that winning is the only thing that really matters in\nbaseball.  By saving himself, he was able to reach back for that little extra\n(I hate this too!) when the game was on the line.\n\nYes Morris is crapping out big time this year, but let's not change history\nto suit the present.  \n\nBTW, I think he should be put in the bullpen; it would be embarrassing a \nveteran pitcher which Cito would never do, but his era is 17+, how much more\ncan he be embarrassed?\n\n\nditto!\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":" Gaining entry into heaven cannot be done without first being cleansed by \n the blood of Jesus. \n Sin cannot dwell in heaven.  It is against the natural laws of God. \n Being converted to christianity means being baptized by the Holy Spirit. \n You cannot get to heaven by good works only. \n Because of the union with the holy spirit, the man's behavior will change. \n If there is true union he will not desire to be homosexual.  Fornication \n and homosexuality will leave your life if you are truly baptized by the \n holy spirit.  It's not to say that we don't stumble now and then.   \n  \n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nI don't think that idea means what you think it does. Having everyone\non Earth subject to some ad agency's \"poor taste\" *is* an abomination.\n(abomination : n. loathing; odious or degrading habit or act; an\nobject of disgust. (Oxford Concise Dictionary)) Maybe *you* don't mind\nhaving every part of your life saturated with commercials, but many of\nus loathe it. I'd rather not have the beauty of the night sky always marred\nby a giant billboard, and I'll bet the idea is virtually sacrilegious\nto an astronomer like Sagan.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Throughout the years of the Israel\/Arab-Palestinian conflict, the internal\nPalestinian popultation has found itself essentially relegated to the\nlower tiers of the economy. Given the major kinds of positions required\nby the Israeli and the \"Palestinian\" economy, there are essentially two\ndifferent ones existing side by side aren't holding down many of the \"\nskilled\" positions. So, when Gaza has to operate on its own, there are \nfew residents trained to fill the need for middle and upper management.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Makes sense to me, after all when steel is manufactured and stored they\nput oil on it so it won't rust. Logicaly, when you store your bike, you\nmust strip the paint and put oil on the metal to prevent rus\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"[[ I posted this a few weeks back, but all I got back was an error\n   message \"pnews: \/dev\/null: Permission denied\".  Yep, \/dev\/null\n   had a mode of 600.  (Arrghhh!!)  ]]\n\nWith renewed interest in \"setting the DISPLAY variable\", etc.. I\nthought I would post my contribution.\n\nThis Perl script is my solution.  It trys to be intelligent about\nwhat it's doing so that you should be able to type \"rx host.domain.etc\",\nand get a xterm running on \"host.domain.etc\", with all the difficult\nstuff taken care of.\n\nIn theory, this program can do *everything* you ever wanted to do\nwhen you wanted to run a remote command in the background - it\ndoesn't even need to be an X program.  Try a \"rx big-machine make\"\nfor instance, for a backgrounded make on the remote \"big-machine\".\n\nFor more details and a full list of features read the README file,\nabout 20 lines below...  All comments welcome.\n\nDuncan.\n\n\n\n#! \/bin\/sh\n# This is a shell archive.  Remove anything before this line, then unpack\n# it by saving it into a file and typing \"sh file\".  To overwrite existing\n# files, type \"sh file -c\".  You can also feed this as standard input via\n# unshar, or by typing \"sh <file\", e.g..  If this archive is complete, you\n# will see the following message at the end:\n#\t\t\"End of archive 1 (of 1).\"\n# Contents:  README Imakefile MANIFEST Makefile rx.man rx.pl\n# Wrapped by sinclair@dcs.gla.ac.uk on Thu Apr  8 18:47:48 1993\nPATH=\/bin:\/usr\/bin:\/usr\/ucb ; export PATH\nif test -f 'README' -a \"${1}\" != \"-c\" ; then \n  echo shar: Will not clobber existing file \\\"'README'\\\"\nelse\necho shar: Extracting \\\"'README'\\\" \\(1442 characters\\)\nsed \"s\/^X\/\/\" >'README' <<'END_OF_FILE'\nX\nX   Glasgow RX - remote execution of X programs.  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(rx -l user host ...)\nX\nX*) Smart quoting of arguments - makes passing wild-cards easy.\nX\nX*) Custom command execution - link it to \"remacs\" to get a remote\nX   emacs command.\nX\nX*) Automatic xterm options - names the xterm according to hostname,\nX   and turns on \"login shell\".\nX\nX*) Default command is xterm.\nX\nX*) Propagates X-ish env. variables to remote session - user may\nX   extend the list of variables to pass.\nX\nX*) Special handling for bourne shell users.\nX\nX*) Tries to do remote execution from same directory as local.\nX   That is, it propagates $PWD, in an intelligent manner.\nX\nX*) Logs errors in a file.\nX\nX*) Overall Intelligence (TM) - makes reasoned decisions about what\nX   you are trying to do, and tries to \"do the right thing\".\nX\nX*) Written in Perl, for portability and hackability.\nX\nXFor more info, read the man page or the source.\nX\nEND_OF_FILE\nif test 1442 -ne `wc -c <'README'`; then\n    echo shar: \\\"'README'\\\" unpacked with wrong size!\nfi\n# end of 'README'\nfi\nif test -f 'Imakefile' -a \"${1}\" != \"-c\" ; then \n  echo shar: Will not clobber existing file \\\"'Imakefile'\\\"\nelse\necho shar: Extracting \\\"'Imakefile'\\\" \\(370 characters\\)\nsed \"s\/^X\/\/\" >'Imakefile' <<'END_OF_FILE'\nX# Glasgow RX Imakefile.\nX\nX         PROGRAMS = rx\nX\nXall:: $(PROGRAMS)\nX\nXinstall:: safe\nX\nXInstallNamedProg(rx.pl,rx,$(BINDIR))\nXInstallManPage(rx,$(MANDIR))\nX\nXinstall::\nX\t$(RM) $(BINDIR)\/rxterm\nX\t$(LN) $(BINDIR)\/rx $(BINDIR)\/rxterm\nX\nXsafe:\nX\t@grep -s 'debug = 0' rx.pl || false\nX\nXshar: safe\nX\tmakekit -m -p\nX\t@-perl -pi -e \"s\/sinclair@dcs.gla.ac.uk\/sinclair@dcs.gla.ac.uk\/;\" Part*\nX\nEND_OF_FILE\nif test 370 -ne `wc -c <'Imakefile'`; then\n    echo shar: \\\"'Imakefile'\\\" unpacked with wrong size!\nfi\n# end of 'Imakefile'\nfi\nif test -f 'MANIFEST' -a \"${1}\" != \"-c\" ; then \n  echo shar: Will not clobber existing file \\\"'MANIFEST'\\\"\nelse\necho shar: Extracting \\\"'MANIFEST'\\\" \\(313 characters\\)\nsed \"s\/^X\/\/\" >'MANIFEST' <<'END_OF_FILE'\nX   File Name\t\tArchive #\tDescription\nX-----------------------------------------------------------\nX README                     1\tRead me first\nX Imakefile                  1\t\nX MANIFEST                   1\tThis shipping list\nX Makefile                   1\t\nX rx.man                     1\t\nX rx.pl                      1\t\nEND_OF_FILE\nif test 313 -ne `wc -c <'MANIFEST'`; then\n    echo shar: \\\"'MANIFEST'\\\" unpacked with wrong size!\nfi\n# end of 'MANIFEST'\nfi\nif test -f 'Makefile' -a \"${1}\" != \"-c\" ; then \n  echo shar: Will not clobber existing file \\\"'Makefile'\\\"\nelse\necho shar: Extracting \\\"'Makefile'\\\" \\(10172 characters\\)\nsed \"s\/^X\/\/\" >'Makefile' <<'END_OF_FILE'\nX# Makefile generated by imake - do not edit!\nX# $XConsortium: imake.c,v 1.65 91\/07\/25 17:50:17 rws Exp $\nX#\nX# The cpp used on this machine replaces all newlines and multiple tabs and\nX# spaces in a macro expansion with a single space.  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then\n    echo shar: \\\"'Makefile'\\\" unpacked with wrong size!\nfi\n# end of 'Makefile'\nfi\nif test -f 'rx.man' -a \"${1}\" != \"-c\" ; then \n  echo shar: Will not clobber existing file \\\"'rx.man'\\\"\nelse\necho shar: Extracting \\\"'rx.man'\\\" \\(3551 characters\\)\nsed \"s\/^X\/\/\" >'rx.man' <<'END_OF_FILE'\nX.TH RX 1 \"4 March 1993\" \"X Version 11\"\nX.SH NAME\nXrx,rxterm,r* - remote command, xterm, anything execution\nX.SH SYNOPSIS\nX.B rx\nX[\nX.B \\-l\nX.I username\nX]\nX.I host\nX[\nX.I command\nX]\nX.br\nX.B rxterm\nX[\nX.B \\-l\nX.I username\nX]\nX.I host\nX[\nX.IR args .\\|.\\|.\nX]\nX.SH DESCRIPTION\nXThe \nX.B rx\nXprogram connect to the specified\nX.I host\nXand executes the specified\nX.I command\nXin the background, returning immediately.  To allow the execution\nXof X programs, it copies a number of environmental variables to\nXthe remote session.  If you omit\nX.IR command ,\nXthen rx will start an xterm on the remote host.  The\nX.B rxterm\nXvarient starts a remote xterm on a host, and also passes\nX.I args\nXto the remote xterm as arguments.\nX.PP\nXShell metacharacters which are not quoted are interpreted on the local\nXmachine, while quoted metacharacters are interpreted on the remote\nXmachine.\nX.PP\nXIf the name of the file from which\nX.B rx\nXis executed is anything other than ``rx,''\nX.B rx\nXtakes this name, stripped on a leading ``r'' as the command\nXto run on the remote host, using any\nX.I command\nXparameters as arguments for the remote command.\nX.PP\nXIf\nX.B rx\nXthinks you are using\nX.B xauth\nXbased X authorisation, and you are calling to a off-site host, or\nXto a different username, it will attempt to copy an authorization\nXkey to the remote account.  Otherwise it will try to use\nX.B xhost(1)\nXto grant access to the remote host.\nX.SH OPTIONS\nX.TP\nX.BI \\-l \" username\"\nXUse\nX.I username\nXas the remote username instead of your local username.  In the absence\nXof this option, the remote username is the same as your local username.\nX\nX.SH ENVIRONMENT\nXIf set, the values of PATH, DISPLAY, XENVIRONMENT, XAPPLRESDIR,\nXXFILESEARCHPATH, XUSERFILESEARCHPATH, OPENWINHOME, LD_LIBRARY_PATH,\nXand XAUTHORITY are exported to the remote program, unless the\nXremote username is different, or the remote host is off-site, in which\nXcase only DISPLAY is exported, with in all cases any variables named in the\nXvariable RXENV.\nX.PP\nXThe DISPLAY variable is tweaked as appropriate, to contain as qualified\nXa hostname as is needed.\nX.SH DIAGNOSTICS\nX.TP\nX.IB command \": don't recognise my name.\"\nX.B rx\nXcannot decode the name it has been called under.  In this case\nXit prints a warning message, and continues, as normal.\nX.TP\nX.B \"rx: usage: rx [-l username] hostname [args...]\"\nXThis means it could not decode the arguments given to it.\nX.SH AUTHOR\nXDuncan Sinclair <sinclair@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>, July 1992\nX.br\nXOriginally based on a program with the same name from the\nX.B gwm\nXdistribution.  To distinguish this \"rx\" from other programs\nXwith similar names, you should refer to this program as the\nX.B Glasgow\nX.BR rx .\nX.SH \"SEE ALSO\"\nXX(1), rsh(1), xterm(1), xauth(1), xhost(1), gwm(1)\nX.SH BUGS\nX.B Rx\nXmakes a number of assumptions about the relationship between the\nXlocal user, and the remote one, depending on whether the remote\nXhost is onsite or not, and whether an alternative username was used\nXor not.\nX.PP\nXIn particular, if either the locally used shell, or the remotely\nXused shell is the standard Bourne Shell,\nX.B sh(1)\nXthen strange things are more likely to happen.  Especially when \nXit's only one of them.\nX.PP\nXSometimes quoting can get messed up.\nX.PP\nXIt's too easy to fool the smarts in\nX.B rx\nXto make it believe something that is not true, and fail because of it.\nX.PP\nXWhen\nX.B rx\nXuses\nX.B xhost\nXto grant access, the\nX.B xhost\nXcommand may fail silently.\nX.PP\nXIf\nX.B rx\nXtries to send to large a command to the remote machine, it will\nXlikely fail with a parse error from csh.  If this happens, you\nXwill probably have to reduce the size of the exported environment.\nEND_OF_FILE\nif test 3551 -ne `wc -c <'rx.man'`; then\n    echo shar: \\\"'rx.man'\\\" unpacked with wrong size!\nfi\n# end of 'rx.man'\nfi\nif test -f 'rx.pl' -a \"${1}\" != \"-c\" ; then \n  echo shar: Will not clobber existing file \\\"'rx.pl'\\\"\nelse\necho shar: Extracting \\\"'rx.pl'\\\" \\(9028 characters\\)\nsed \"s\/^X\/\/\" >'rx.pl' <<'END_OF_FILE'\nX#! \/usr\/local\/bin\/perl\nX# CONFIG: change the line above to point to your copy of perl.\nX##############################################################################\nX# Glasgow RX  version 3.1.7\nX#\nX# Copyright 1992 Duncan Sinclair <sinclair@dcs.gla.ac.uk>\nX#\nX# Last Modified:  Early April 1993.\nX#\nX# Distribution limited, as per the usual MIT copyright.\nX##############################################################################\nX# remote execution of X programs.  Based on a script in an old version of gwm.\nX#\nX# To install, put rx in your bin and make rxterm a link to it.\nX#  Some configuration will be necessary, see \"CONFIG\" comments...\nX#\nX# More and more this is less and less like the original....\nX#\nX# Major hacked to work for our(my) set up, and also partly\nX#  re-written to work with sh, rather than ksh.\nX#\nX# Maybe I'll turn this into our first zsh script!\nX#\nX# Looks like it turned into a perl script at some point - big improvement.\nX##############################################################################\nX# This code tries to be intelligent in the way it works.  This means there\nX#  are tons of implicit assumptions about the environment it is run in.\nX#  These assumptions are all valid on the machines I use, and in my\nX#  environment.  At the same time, I try to make as few assumptions as possible\nX#  about the remote machine.  Here's a list of all the more tricky ones...\nX# *) That the remote machine has csh.  (Linux?)\nX# *) That $RSHELL = \/bin\/(k)?sh ==> remote shell = \/bin\/(k)?sh.  (Make same.)\nX# *) If remote shell = sh, that $PATH is compatible.  (Use csh, etc..)\nX# *) I pass a cookie to the remote machine if need be, but does it\nX#    know what to do with a cookie. (eat it?)\nX# *) There must be others...\nX##############################################################################\nX# Why am I using csh to run the remote commands?  Simply because it doesn't\nX#  interact badly with rsh, and hang waiting for a file descriptor to\nX#  be closed.  I'd rather use zsh, or bash, or even perl, but they are not\nX#  as universal as csh.\nX##############################################################################\nX#\nXrequire \"stat.pl\";\nX#\nX# What we called?\nX#\nX$argv0 = $0 ;\nX$argv0 =~ s:.*\/:: ;\nX#\nX# CONFIG:\nX# Change these variables to be your domain name, and a pattern that\nX#  will match all variations on your domain name.  You must include\nX#  those leading dots!!! If your hostname includes your domain, see\nX#  the code further down, marked \"XXX\"\nX#\nX$DOM  = \".dcs.gla.ac.uk\" ;\nX$DOMPAT = \"\\.dcs(\\.gla(sgow)?(\\.ac\\.uk)?)?\" ;\nX#\nX# CONFIG:\nX# Change this to your value of BINDIR, or set the variable to \"\" if\nX#  you think your users are smarter than that.\nX#\nX$XPATHS = \"\/usr\/X11\/bin\" ;\nX#\nX# CONFIG:\nX# Make this the name of your \"remote shell\" command.\nX#\nX$RSH = \"rsh\" ;\nX#\nX# end of CONFIG\nX#\nX# Some variables we'll no doubt use sometime...\nX#\nX$usage = \"$argv0: usage: $argv0 [-l username] hostname [args...]\\n\" ;\nX$RSHELL = (getpwuid($<))[8] || \"\/bin\/sh\" ;\nX$HOME = $ENV{\"HOME\"} || (getpwuid($<))[7] ;\nX$XAUTH = $ENV{\"XAUTHORITY\"} || $HOME . \"\/.Xauthority\" ;\nX$LOGF = \"~\/.rx.log\" ;\nX@STUFF = () ;\nX$debug = 0 ;\nX#\nX# Before anything else, close stdin.  This might stop rx hanging\nX#  due to rsh weirdness.\nX#\nXclose(STDIN);\nX#\nX# do a \"-l\" flag...\nX#\nXif ($ARGV[0] eq \"-l\") {\nX  shift ;\nX  $User = $ARGV[0] || die $usage ;\nX  @LUser = (\"-l\",$User) ;\nX  shift ;\nX}\nX#\nX# Pick a host, any host...\nX#\nX$MACH = $ARGV[0] || die $usage ;\nXshift ;\nX#\nX# Things to think about for the remote machine.\nX#\nX$MACH =~ s\/$DOMPAT\/\/ ;\nX$OffSite = $MACH =~ \/\\.\/ ;\nX#\nX# Where am I?  Seems we can't trust the dumb user to set HOSTNAME right!\nX#\nX#$HOSTNAME=$ENV{HOSTNAME} || `hostname` ;\t\t# Current Host\nX$HOSTNAME=`hostname` ;\t\t\t\t\t# Current Host\nX$HOSTNAME =~ s\/\\n\/\/ ;\nX#\nX#  If all your hostnames include your domain, comment out the next line.\nX#\nXif ( $OffSite ) { $HOSTNAME = $HOSTNAME . $DOM ; }\t# XXX\nX#\nX# Now we know where we are, and they are, are they different?\nX#\nX$Diff = $HOSTNAME ne $MACH ;\nX#\nX# What is the display going to be?\nX# !! Danger !! Heavy Regular expressions follow...\nX# This needs to be re-written to be modular and can so be extended to\nX#  support resetting host:* to unix:*, as required.\nX#\nX$DISPLAY = $ENV{\"DISPLAY\"} || \":0.0\" ;\nX$DISPLAY =~ s\/$DOMPAT\/\/ ;\nX$DISPLAY =~ s\/^(unix)?(:\\d(\\.\\d)?)$\/$HOSTNAME$2\/ if ($Diff) ;\nX$DISPLAY =~ s\/^([^.]*)(:\\d(\\.\\d)?)$\/$1$DOM$2\/ if ($OffSite) ;\nX$ENV{\"DISPLAY\"} = $DISPLAY ;\nX#\nX# Here comes the hard bit in sh.  Quote our args.\nX# Also have to quote quotes.  To cope with csh braindamage,\nX#  quotes are quoted thus; ' -> '\\''\nX# So for an arg \"foo'bar\", we get \"'foo'\\''bar'\".\nX#\nXforeach (@ARGV) {\nX  s#\\'#\\'\\\\\\'\\'#g ;\nX  s#(.*)#\\'$1\\'# ;\nX}\nX#\nX# So what we doing?\nX#\nXPROG: {\nX  if ($argv0 eq \"rx\") { last PROG ; }\nX  if ($argv0 eq \"rxterm\") {\nX    #unshift(@ARGV,\"-ls\") if ($Diff) ;\nX    unshift(@ARGV,\"xterm\",\"-ls\",\"-n\",$MACH) ;\nX    last PROG ;\nX  }\nX  if ($argv0 =~ \/r(.*)\/) { unshift(@ARGV,$1) ; last PROG ; }\nX  warn \"$argv0: don't recognise my name.\" ;\nX}\nX#\nX# If nothing else, become an rxterm.\nX#\nXif (@ARGV == 0) {\nX  #unshift(@ARGV,\"-ls\") if ($Diff) ;\nX  unshift(@ARGV,\"xterm\",\"-ls\",\"-n\",$MACH) ;\nX}\nX#\nX# Some special considerations if we are not ourselves on the other side.\nX#\nXif ($OffSite || $User) {\nX  #\nX  # We want to pass a cookie here.\nX  #\nX  if (-e $XAUTH) {\nX    #\nX    # This is going to be unsecure, as the cookie will appear in a number\nX    #  of command line args.  But at least it'll work.\nX    # This will need enhanced if we ever fix the code above to\nX    #  set DISPLAY to \":0.0\", when we return to the server.\nX    #\nX    $CooKie = `PATH=\\$PATH:$XPATHS xauth list $DISPLAY` ;\nX    chop($CooKie) ;\nX    @CooKs = split(' ',$CooKie) ;\nX    shift(@CooKs) ;\nX    unshift(@STUFF,\"xauth\",\"add\",$DISPLAY,@CooKs,\";\") if (@CooKs == 2) ;\nX  } else {\nX    #\nX    # Yuk.  What a crock.  I hate doing this.\nX    #\nX    system(\"xhost +$MACH >\/dev\/null 2>\/dev\/null\") if ($Diff) ;\nX  }\nX  #\nX  # We really only want to pass a value for $DISPLAY.\nX  #\nX  @VARS=(\"DISPLAY\", split(' ',$ENV{\"RXENV\"})) ;\nX} else {\nX  #\nX  # Some variables we wish to export\nX  #\nX  @VARS=(\nX    \"DISPLAY\",\nX    \"XENVIRONMENT\",\nX    \"XFILESEARCHPATH\",\nX    \"XUSERFILESEARCHPATH\",\nX    \"XAPPLRESDIR\",\nX    \"OPENWINHOME\",\nX    \"LD_LIBRARY_PATH\",\nX    # \"MANPATH\",\t\t# for \"rxman\", and bourne shell users.\nX    \"XAUTHORITY\",\nX    split(' ',$ENV{\"RXENV\"}),\nX    ) ;\nX  #\nX  # Braindead bourne shell, needs to be given a $PATH...\nX  # We would rather not pass the current $PATH, because it might not work\nX  #  on the destination machine.  I'd rather it was set by the user's\nX  #  remote shell during the rsh.\nX  # Fortunately, all *my* X programs are in an arch independant place, and\nX  #  so it shouldn't cos a problem, locally.\nX  # We check against $RSHELL, because they might be running another shell,\nX  #  differant from their login shell.  I know, sounds weird, but it's too\nX  #  common round here.\nX  # I've also included ksh in the brain-damage, cos I can't see an easy way\nX  #  to pass throught $ENV{\"ENV\"} without it being too late. (We only have\nX  #  one person who has ksh as a login shell anyway...)\nX  # Oh, yeah.. we are assuming that if it's bourne shell here, then it's\nX  #  bourne shell there.  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{"text":"FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE\n\nEditorial Contact:\nSingle Source Marketing:  Myra Manahan    (714) 545-1338\nGenoa Systems:            Joseph Brunoli  (408) 432-9090\n                          Neil Roehm      (408) 432-9090\/Technical\n\n\n                      Genoa Presents High Performance \n                        Video Graphics Accelerator\n\n        SAN JOSE, Calif USA -- Genoa Systems Corporation announces \nWINDOWSVGA 24,  a True Color 24-bit graphics accelerator card that \ndelivers up to 16.8 million colors at speeds faster than the \ncompetition.  Plus it offers a full range of resolutions, high \nrefresh rates as well as unique proprietary performance features.  \nThe card is available in both 16-bit ISA bus and 32-bit VESA Local \nbus versions (models 8500 AND 8500VL).\n        With 1MB DRAM on board, the WINDOWSVGA 24 card offers \nmaximum resolution up to 1,280 x 1,024 and supports a refresh rate \nof 72Hz at 800 x 600 and resolution up to 1,024 x 768 \nnon-interlaced. Both models provide performance many times greater \nthan standard SVGA boards, yet conform to all current video \nstandards.\n        WINDOWSVGA 24 features Genoa's FlickerFree(tm) technology, \nwhich eliminates screen flash and flicker to make viewing much more \ncomfortable.  the cards also come with Safescan(tm), a utility \ndeveloped by Genoa to eliminate the black border around the screen \nand thereby provide 100-percent screen use for overscanning monitors.\n        WINDOWSVGA model 8500VL takes full advantage of the speed \noffered by the new VESA Local bus technology.  Most VL bus cards \nwill only handle data transfers up to 33MHz, but the 8500VL will \ntransfer data at the full speed of the CPU, up to 50MHz.  Genoa is \nalso offering this card in the \"TurboBahn\" combination packaged \nwith their TURBOEXPRESS 486VL motherboard.\n        Built around the Cirrus Logic GD-5426 GUI accelerator, \nWINDOWSVGA 24 offers the user an exceptional price\/performance \nvalue.  Genoa's advanced proprietary drivers act to \"turbocharge\" \nthe chip, thereby providing an affordable accelerator card with \npower and performance that surpass many of the more highly priced \nchip cards.  The Genoa user will enjoy optimal speed and \nreliability for such programs as Windows, AutoCAD, AutoShade, 3D \nStudio, OS\/2, OrCAD and more.  Driver updates and product bulletins \nare available on Genoa's BBS at (408) 943-1231.\n        Genoa Systems manufactures and markets an extensive line of \ngraphics adapters, motherboards, audio and multimedia cards for \nIBM-compatible personal computers.  All products come with a two \nyear limited warranty on parts and labor.  Genoa products are \ncurrently distributed worldwide through authorized distributors, \nresellers, VARs and systems integrators.\n        For more information contact Joe Brunoli, Marketing \nManager, Genoa Systems at 75 E. Trimble Road, San Jose, Calif. \n95131; Tel: (408) 432-9090 or (800) 934-3662; Fax: (408) 434-0997.\n\n        ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"OK.  Instead of holding an auction, I have decided to compute prices for each comic (after many suggestions).  These are the most reasonable prices I can give (not negotiable).  If you would like to purchase a comic (or group), simply email me with the title and issue #'s you want.  The price for each issue is shown beside each comic.  First come, first served!!!  There is no more bidding.  Meet my price and it is yours.  I can be reached at this email address:\n\n02106@chopin.udel.edu or\n02106@ravel.udel.edu or\n02106@bach.udel.edu or\n02106@brahms.udel.edu\n\nNO MORE HAGGLING ABOUT THE PRICE!!!!!!!!\nLOTS OF COMICS FOR $1, $2, or $3 LOOK AT LIST!!!!!\n\nShipping is $2 for 1-3 comics.  For more than 3, the price will be determined by the volume of the purchase (I may have to use a big heavy box for large orders which costs more to mail).\n\nFor all those who have bought comics from me, thanks!!!\n\nAll comics are near mint unless otherwise noted (my books were graded by\nmile high comics and other comic professional collectors, not me!)\n\nHere is the list:\n\n*reserved* means that I have made a deal with a person and I am waiting for the check to arrive.\n*reserved* comics are as good as sold (sorry!)\n\nIncredible Hulk\n156 (vs another Hulk) $3\n195 $2\n196 $2\n246 (vs Captain Marvel) $1\n248 $1\n249 $1\n250 (Double size issue vs Silver Surfer) $5\n255 (vs Thor) $1\n279 $1\n300 $2\n312 $2\n313 $1\n316 (vs Bi Coastal Avengers) $1\n347 $1 *reserved*\n348 $1\n350 (vs Thing) $2\n354 $1\n358 $1\n360 $1\n362 (vs Werewolf By Night) $2\n364 $1\n365 $1\n366 $1 *reserved*\n379 (1 copy) $5\n\n\nPunisher\n50 $1\n57 $2\n\nPunisher War Journal\n29 (Ghost Rider) $2\n30 (Ghost Rider) $2\n\nPunisher Armory\n1 $4\n2 $2\n\nOriginal Ghost Rider Rides Again (Reprint)\n1 $1\n\nGhost Rider (old series)\n37 $3 *reserved*\n43 (vs Johnny Blaze) $3 *reserved*\n77 (2 copies, origin of GR dream) $4 each\n\nGhost Rider (new series)\n15 (1st print, Green glow in dark cover, 1 copy) $5\n15 (2nd print, gold cover w\/ glow cover) $3\n\nWeb of Spiderman\n56 (2 copies) $2 each\n60 $3\n69 (vs Hulk, 1 copy left!!!)  $2\n70 (SpiderHulk, 1 copy left!!!)  $2\n71 $1\n72 $1\n78 $1\n\nDeadly Foes of Spiderman\n1 (2 copies) $2 each\n2 $2\n3 $2\n\nAmazing Spiderman vs Dr. Octopus (special NACME issue) $2\n\nAmazing Spiderman \n350 (vs Dr. Doom, 1 copy LEFT!!!) $2\n\nSpiderman (1990)\n1 (silver, not bagged) $4\n6 $3\n7 $3\n8 (2 copies) $2 each\n9 (w\/ Wolverine, 1 COPY LEFT!!!) $2\n10 $2\n11 $1\n13 $5\n16 $1\n\nEnemy Ace Special #1 $2\n\nNew Warriors\n1 (gold cover) $2\n8 $4\n\nSuperman Man of Steel #1 $2\n\nSuperman (new)\n53 (2 copies) $1 each\n55 $1\n56 $1\n\nAdventures of Superman \n479 $1\nAnnual #3 $1\n\nSuperman Annual #3 (Armegedon 2001 tie in) $1\n\nAction Comics #666 $1\n\nAvengers West Coast #69 (Hawkeye vs US Agent) $1\n\nBatman\n465 (Robin returns) $2\n466 $1\n467 $1\nAnnual #15 (Armegedon 2001 tie in) $3\n\nCaptain America \n230 (vs Hulk) $2\n257 (vs Hulk) $1\n\n\nArmegedon 2001 \n1 $4\n2 $2\n\n\nFoolkiller #1 $2\n\n\nInfinity Gauntlet \n1 $6\n4 $3\n5 $3\n\nDouble Dragon #1 $1\n\nDeathlok (series) \n2 $1\n\nTransformers #80 (last issue) $2 \n\nWonder Man\n1 $1\n2 $1\n\nFlaming Carrot #25 (w\/ Ninja Turtles) $2\n\nThe Comet #1 $1\n\nLegend of the Shield #1 $1\n\nJustice Society of America\n1 $1\n2 $1\n3 $1\n4 $1\n\nOfficial movie mag from Turtles II movie (sealed w\/ Jelloman comic) $5\n\nRobin \n1 (1 copies w\/ poster) $3\n1 (3rd print) $1\n5 (6 copies) $1 each\n\nGuardians of the Galaxy \n1 $6\n2 $3\n3 $2\n4 $2\n5 $2\n6 $2\n7 $2\n8 $2\n9 (2 copies) $3 each\n10 $2\n11 $2\n12 $1\n13 $3\n14 $3\n15 $1\n16 $1\n17 $1\n18 (2 copies) $2 each\n\nSuperman vs Amazing Spiderman (oversized issue from 70's) $7 *reserved*\n\nDarkHawk\n1 (3 copies) $8 each\n2 (2 copies) $6 each\n3 $5\n4 $4\n5 $4\n6 $3\n7 $2\n8 $2\n9 $3\n10 $1\n\nThor\n246 $1\n428 $1\n429 (vs Juggernaut) $2\n430 (w\/ Ghost Rider) $1\n431 $1\n432 (Thor vs Loki, 2 copies) $3 each\n433 (new Thor) $2\nAnnual #16 $1\n\nWhat if....\n13 $1\n23 $1\n25 $2\n26 $1\n\nAlpha Flight\n29 $1\n51 $6\n53 $6\n94 (vs Fant. 4) $1\n\nNew Mutants\n22 $2\n100 (last issue, 1st look at X-Force, 1st print, 2 copies) $5 each\n100 (2nd print, gold cover) $4\n\nFlash (new)\n43 $1\n48 $1\n49 $1\n50 $2\n51 $1\nAnnual #4 $1\n\n\n\nUncanny X-Men\n191 $3\n215 $2\n255 (2 copies) $2 each\n258 $6\n275 (1 COPY LEFT 1st print) $6\n275 (gold 2nd print) $3\n276 $3\n277 $3\n278 $2\n279 $2\n280 $2\n281 $3\n282 $4\n283 $6\n\nDefenders\n52 (Hulk vs Sub Mariner) $2\n\n\nFantastic Four\n347 $4\n348 $2\n349 (3 copies) $2 each\n\nWolverine\n11 $3 *reserved*\n20 $2\n41 (w\/ Cable, 2 copies) $6 each\n42 $4\n43 $3\n\nSilver Surfer (1987)\n1 $6\n2 $3\n3 $3\n4 $3\n5 $2\n6 $2\n8 $2\n22 $2\n24 $2\n32 $2\n49 $2\n50 (Foil cover, only 1 copy left!!) $6\n51 $2\n52 $2\n53 $1\n54 $1\n55 $1\n56 $1\n58 $2\n59 $2\n\nAvengers\n326 $3\n328 (origin of Rage) $3\n\nX-Factor\n40 $6\n67 $3\n68 $6\n71 $3\n73 $1\n\nGreen Lantern (1990)\n3 $2\n9 (2 copies) $1 each\n10 $1\n11 $1\n12 $1\n\nToxic Avenger\n1 (3 copies) $1 each\n2 $1\n\nSleepwalker\n1 (3 copies) $2 each\n3 $1\n7 $1\n\nKool Aid Man #1 (sealed in white bag, 2 copies) $2 each\n\nX-Force\n1 (bagged w\/ Cable Card) $4\n1 (bagged w\/ Shatterstar Card) $3\n2 $2\n3 $1\n4 $1\n\nNFL Superpro\n1  $1\n\nDr. Strange #31 $1\n\nHawkworld Annual #2 (2nd print, Armegedon 2001 tie in) $1\n\nHawk & Dove Annual #2 (Armegedon 2001 tie in) $1\n\nJustice League of America Annual #5 (Armegedon 2001 tie in) $1\n\n\n\nSend all comments to\n\n02106@chopin.udel.edu\n\nThanks\nSam (the \"ex\"  comic book collector)\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":": Detroit's going to beat Toronto in 6 or LESS!!!\n: \n:  Granted, Gilmour should get the Hart Trophy, NOT Lemieux... Just\n: Look at what Gilmour did for Toronto.  When you think of Toronto,\n: who comes to mind, Gilmour, Andreychuk, Potvin...ah...did I mentio\n: n Gilmour?\n: \n\nWhen you think of the NHL, who comes to mind? Gilmour? Gretzky? Mario?\n.. ah... did I mention Mario? If you said Gretzky, you haven't really\nbeen following along, have you. If you said Gilmour, you are a true\nMaynard. \n\nI don't even think the selection of the HArt deserves serious discussion on\nthis group. It is a no-brainer.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":": >Atoms are not objective.  They aren't even real.  What scientists call\n: >an atom is nothing more than a mathematical model that describes \n: >certain physical, observable properties of our surroundings.  All\n: >of which is subjective.  \n: >\n: >-jim halat\n\n: This deserves framing.  It really does.  \"[Atoms] aren't even real.\"\n\n: Tell me then, those atoms we have seen with electron microscopes are\n: atoms now, so what are they?  Figments of our imaginations?  The\n: evidence that atoms are real is overwhelming, but I won't bother with\n: most evidence at the moment.\n\nYou would have us believe that what the eye perceives as images are\nactaully there - as perceived? This may be interesting. I thought\nthat an electron microscope was used because no wavelength of \"light\"\ncan illuminate any \"object\" of atomic scale. If this image is to have\nuseful resolution, wouldn't the illuminating sources wavelength have\nto be several orders of magnitude less than size of thing observed?\n\nIf an atom is a \"probablity cloud\", lower resolutions would give the\nappearance of solidity, but it seems fairly certain that an atom is\nnot an object is any conventional sense. Obviously I am not a\nphysicist, but the question does have ramification of a philosophic\nnature. Anyway, just a stray thought, carry on ...","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Inkjet and Bubblejet printers are the same tech.  \"Bubblejet\" was trademarked\nby Cannon and inkjet was by HP I belive.  I have seen both, and own a \n\"bubblejet\" (a Apple StyleWriter which has a cannon engine) with a 360 dpi\nrated output.  The output is very good with quality paper, which is\nvery importaint.  Cheap paper gives bad results.  I use sealed paper and\nthe only differenc is that the ink is less dark than toner (I compaire\nto the Apple Personal LaserWriter NTX), but then again the difference\nis $300 to $1500 so....\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
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{"text":"I have NEVER spoken for a ban against guns in America !\nWhat I've said is that there seems to be to MANY of them, and especially\nto many in wrong hands....\n\nNow IF you would like to reduce the number, how would you do it without affecting\ngood\/responcible gun owners ??\n\n\nI DO believe in a persons freedom.\nWhat I don't believe is that you can have it all and don't pay for it.\n\nMOST europeans believe in a society of individuals, and that you HAVE\nto give 'a little' to make that society work.\n\nCars and guns should really not be mixed, I just tried to make a point.\nLike America, Norway has some spaces you have to cross to get from a to b,\nso a car is essential in most parts....\n\nGuns on the other hand are not essential in Norway, so we don't \nargue that IF we 'banned' guns we HAVE to ban cars.....\n\n\nEVERYONE who believe that Hitler and WW2 could be avoided if there were\nmore guns in Germany in the 30's: PLEASE read some HISTORY!\n\n\nIs this discussion about\n\n1. Banning weapons for ALL Americans\n            or\n2. Making it harder for criminals to get one ??\n\n\n\nChange of name.......\nWrote that one after reading the first postings about the Waco 'incident'.\nI still think there are 'some' posters should move their post to alt.conspiracy\nor make a new newsgroup.\n(If you read the first postings after the Waco fire you should see who I mean......)\n\nDid the BATF get the warrant for a gun search only or was there other reasons.\n(Child abuse for instance)\n\nDoesn't the people reading this newsgroup have access to the clari.news.* hierarcy ??\n(Some seems rather mis\/unInformed)\n\n(Or is the clari.news.* hierarcy ruled and censored by the corrupt facist goverment??)\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":": \n: I am considering buying a 1993 Chevy or GMC 4x4 full-size pickup with\n: the extended cab.  Any opinions about these vehicles?  Have there been\n: any significant problems?\n: \n: -- \n: Dick Grady           Salem, NH,  USA            grady@world.std.com\n: So many newsgroups, so little time!\n\n\nI bought a brand new 1992 Chevrolet K2500 HD 4x4 extended cab last\nMay.  It has had many, many problems.  See my earler post that describes\nthe situation.  I went to BBB arbitration, and they ruled that Chevrolet\nmust buy it back from me.  If you do get one, stay away from the 5 speed\nmanual with the deep low first gear.  They have put three of them in my\ntruck so far.  After about 1,500 miles, overdrive either starts\nrattling or hissing loudly.  There is no way to fix them.  Chevrolet \nsays that the noise is \"a characteristic of the transmission.\"\n\nAlso, if you are planning to use your truck to tow, the\ngear ratios in that tranny suck.  On a steep hill, you get up to about\n55 MPH in second gear at 4,000 RPM (yellow line).  If you shift to third,\nthe RPM drop to only 2,500, and you begin to loose speed.  I should\npoint out that the 350 V8 they put in the HD (8600 GVW) trucks is a\ndetuned motor compared to the one they put in the light duty ones.  They\ndropped the compression ratio, supposedly for \"engine longevity\"\nreasons.  So the light duty 350 may pull better than my truck does.\nOther things that have gone wrong include the ventilation fan (3 times \nso far), paint (had specs of rust embedded in the paint from being\nshipped by rail with no covering), and suspension parts (link between\nstabilizer and control arm fell off).\n\nAny company can make a bad individual car, Chevrolet included.  What\nreally bothered me was the way they reacted.  They made no attempt\nto deal with me except to tell me to take it back to the dealer for \nthem to attempt to fix it one more time.  So I bought a brand new\nFord F250 HD Super Cab with a 460 and an automatic.  I will never\nbuy another Chevrolet.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nCheck the station's master sync generator.  You'll probably find that\nit already has horizontal and vertical drive outputs that just aren't\nbeing used.  A couple of cables and you're in business.\n\nAnother possibility is to find a genlockable sync generator with HD and VD\noutputs - genlock it to station sync, and then feed HD and VD to the\ncameras.\n\nIf neither of these is possible, then you'll have to build a sync\nseparator.  Look at the circuit diagrams of your existing sync generators -\nthey probably all include circuitry that does what you want.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"     I used to drive a truck a few years back. I once rode with an old codger\nthat had been driving for about 30 yrs. The only time he would use the clutch\nwas to get the truck moving. He could shift that 13 speed lightning quick, up\nor down, without the slightest rake of a gear. He was as smooth as silk. It was\nthe most amazing shifting demonstration I've ever seen! Having said all that I \nstill don't know why anyone would want to shift a synchronized tranny without a\nclutch? Why do it?\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nThere are several reasons for this difference.  The main reason is that\ngood hitters in their prime (such as Frank Thomas and Danny Tartabull)\nare rarely regular DH's, even if they can't field; it's more commonly a\nplace to put aging veterans.\n\nAnother use of the DH slot is to help a player come back from injury\nslowly, getting his bat in the lineup without forcing him to play in the\nfield.  I would expect such players to hit worse as DH's than they did\nduring the rest of the season.\n\nA third factor is that most player who split time between DH and first\nor the outfield don't hit as well as DH's for some reason.  Reggie\nJackson was a good example; in five years as a RF\/DH for the Angels, he\nhit like the old Reggie when he was in right.\n\nThe second and third factors will be lost if players are considered by\ntheir primary position only; a player who plays 90 games in right and 60\nat DH will count only in the right fielders' averages.\n\n\nThis makes sense; you might also look at it another way.  Although the\n*average* offensive performance of a DH may be lower than for a left\nfielder, the *replacement-level* offensive performance is certainly\nlower; if you are a left fielder but can't hit well enough to keep a job\nanywhere, then you certainly can't hit well enough to keep a job at DH.\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nThis is completely false.\n\n\nThis is also false. What you need for multisession capability is\nmultisession capability -- which is based on the firmware and\nelectronics, not the drive speed. I'll admit, though, that I have\nnot seen a multisession capable drive that isn't double speed.\n\n\nThe above (1 & 2), proves 3 to be false.\n\nThe Apple CD300 is an excellent double-speed multi-session PhotoCD\ncapable drive. So are drives based on the slightly-faster Toshiba\nXM3401. Some companies selling such drives are: Spin Peripherals (a\nbargain at $499) and PLI (a company I hate) and Relax Technologies\n(a company I know little about other than that they are  a longtime\nplayer in Mac mailorder, which is usually a good sign). The NEC\nCDR74 is also a good choice (NEC's own mechanism, I think). ClubMac\nsells it for around $619.\n\n\nYour welcome, ooh but now I see your from Germany. Most of the\nmailorder info does you little good, I guess. If not:\nSpin Peripherals -- 800-466-1200\nClub Mac         -- 800-258-2622\nRelax Tech       -- 510-471-6112\n\nNothing wrong with the Apple, though, which is based on a Sony\nmechanism and speed-identical to the NEC. The Toshiba's speed\nadvantage is very slight: 20% in average access time (a minor plus)\nand 10% in data transfer rate (a slightly more important plus).","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nWelcome aboard!  And, since I haven't seen this yet this year (but all\npreceding years), let me say:","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"The fact that Reno is actually taking responsibility (gee--that's a new\none for a politician) is a new thing for a member of Clinton's administration.\nI actually respect her for having a backbone ( I never thought I'd say\nthat about someone from that bunch).\n\nThe way I understand what happened is that she discussed with Clinton\nwhat was being planned for Waco.  Clinton didn't say no, so gave de\nfacto approval for the operation.  Things got messed up, and a lot of\npeople died horrible deaths.  (if I am incorrect about this, please \nfeel free to correct it.  This is just what I've been able to pick \nup.)\n\nI've just got a couple of questions about this whole thing.\n(1)  Why did the government feel they needed to assault that compound?\n(2)  Why didn't they try to flush them out in the first week of\n     this fiasco instead of waiting 50 days.\n(3)  Janet Reno jumped up to take responsibilty to take heat away\n     from the President.  Does this sound anything like what a couple\n     of Reagan's aides did?","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"]joe, i'm sorry you felt i was pissing on your list.  no disparagement\n]was intended and i would be most interested to know what i said that\n]made you feel that way.  \n\nyou didn't, I meant 'pissing' like boxer owners 'piss' on K bike owners\nand K bike owners 'piss' on boxer owners and so forth. in the end it's\nnothing more than co-owner ribbing. no disparagement was received or \nreturned intentionally, sorry 'bout the lack of :-)'s.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"** For my computer law module I have been asked to write a computer \n   contract for the supply of computer software to a business. The\n   software is being especially written for the company.\n\n   Would anyone, per chance happen to have a copy of a computer\n   contract on their system which they could mail me.\n\n   If anyone has a computer contract but it contains sensitive \n   material then I can assure them that it will remain confidential\n   and I will not pass it on, or allow anyone else to view it.\n\n   Thanks.\n\n\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nWorks really well on my 'bike too.\n\n\nTony\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Here now some initial references; best regards - Walter.\n@InProceedings{Keirouz:et:al:90,\n  author = \t\"Walid Keirouz and Jahir Pabon and Robert Young\",\n  title = \t\"{Integrating parametric geometry, features, and\n\t\t variational modeling for conceptual design}\",\n  booktitle = \t\"International Conference on Design Theory and Methodology\",\n  year = \t\"1990\",\n  editor = \t\"{J.\\ R.}\\ Rinderle\",\n  pages = \t\"1--9\",\n  organization = \t\"American Society of Mechanical Engineers (ASME)\",\n  OPTpublisher = \t\"\",\n  OPTaddress = \t\"\",\n  OPTmonth = \t\"\",\n  note = \t\"Proceedings\"\n}\n\n\n@InProceedings{Yamaguchi:Kimura:90,\n  author = \t\"Yasushi Yamaguchi and Fumihiko Kimura\",\n  title = \t\"{A constraint modeling system for variational geometry}\",\n  booktitle = \t\"{Geometric modeling for product engineering}\",\n  year = \t\"1990\",\n  editor = \t\"{Michael J.}\\ Wozny and {J.\\ U.}\\ Turner and {K.}\\ Preiss\",\n  pages = \t\"221--233\",\n  organization = \t\"IFIP\",\n  publisher = \t\"Elsevier Science Publishers B.V.\\ (North-Holland),\n\t\t Amsterdam, The Netherlands\",\n  OPTaddress = \t\"\",\n  OPTmonth = \t\"\",\n  note = \t\"Selected and Expanded Papers form the IFIP WG 5.2\/NSF\n\t\t Working Conference on Geometric Modeling, Rensselaerville, NY, U.S.A.,\n\t\t 18--22 September 1988\"\n}\n\n@InProceedings{Chung:et:al:88,\n  author = \t\"{Jack C.\\ H.}\\ Chung and {Joseph W.}\\ Klahs\n\t\t and {Robert L.}\\ Cook and Thijs Sluiter\",\n  title = \t\"{Implementation issues in variational geometry and\n\t\t constraint management}\",\n  booktitle = \t\"Third International Conference on\n       CAD\/CAM, Robotics and Factories of the Future (CARS and FOF'88)\",\n  year = \t\"1988\",\n  OPTeditor = \t\"\",\n  OPTpages = \t\"\",\n  OPTorganization = \t\"\",\n  OPTpublisher = \t\"\",\n  address = \t\"Detroit, Michigan, USA\",\n  month = \t\" August 14--17,\",\n  note = \t\"Proceedings, probably: Springer-Verlag,\n\t\t Berlin\/Heidelberg, 1989\"\n}\n\n@Article{Kimura:et:al:86,\n  author = \t\"Fumihiko Kimura and Hiromasa Suzuki and Toshio Sata\",\n  title = \t\"{Variational Product Design by Constraint Propagation\n\t\t and Satisfaction in Product Modelling}\",\n  journal = \t\"Annals of the CIRP\",\n  year = \t\"1986\",\n  volume = \t\"35\",\n  number = \t\"1\",\n  pages = \t\"75--78\",\n  OPTmonth = \t\"\",\n  note = \t\"(probably) International Institution for Production Engineering Research\"\n}\n\n@Article{Kimura:et:al:87,\n  author = \t\"{F.}\\ Kimura and {H.}\\ Suzuki and {H.}\\ Ando and {T.}\\ Sato and\n\t\t {A.}\\ Kinosada\",\n  title = \t\"{Variational Geometry Based on Logical Constraints\n\t\t and its Applications to Product Modelling}\",\n  journal = \t\"Annals of the CIRP\",\n  year = \t\"1987\",\n  volume = \t\"36\",\n  number = \t\"1\",\n  pages = \t\"65--68\",\n\n@InProceedings{Chung:Schussel:89,\n  author = \t\"{Jack C.H.}\\ Chung and {Martin D.}\\ Schussel\",\n  title = \t\"{Comparison of Variational and Parametric Design}\",\n  booktitle = \t\"Autofact '89\",\n  year = \t\"1989\",\n  OPTeditor = \t\"\",\n  pages = \t\"5-27 -- 5-44\",\n  OPTorganization = \t\"\",\n  OPTpublisher = \t\"\",\n  address = \t\"Detroit, Michigan, USA\",\n  month = \t\"October 30 -- November 2,\",\n  note = \t\"Conference Proceedings\"\n}\n\n\n@Article{Pabon:et:al:92,\n  author = \t\"Jahir Pabon and Robert Young and Walid Keirouz\",\n  title = \t\"{Integrating Parametric Geometry, Features, and\n\t\t Variational Modeling for Conceptual Design}\",\n  journal = \t\"International Journal of Systems Automation: Research\n\t\t and Applications (SARA)\",\n  year = \t\"1992\",\n  volume = \t\"2\",\n  OPTnumber = \t\"\",\n  pages = \t\"17--36\",\n  OPTmonth = \t\"\",\n  OPTnote = \t\"\"\n}\n\n@Article{Kondo:90,\n  author = \t\"Koichi Kondo\",\n  title = \t\"{PIGMOD: parametric and interactive geometric\n\t\t modeller for mechanical design}\",\n  journal = \t\"CAD, computer-aided design\",\n  year = \t\"1990\",\n  volume = \t\"22\",\n  number = \t\"10\",\n  pages = \t\"633--644\",\n  month = \t\"december\",\n  note = \t\"Butterworth-Heinemann Ltd\"\n}\n\n\n@InProceedings{Zalik:et:al:92a,\n  author = \t\"Borut {\\v{Z}}alik and Nikola Guid and Aleksander Vesel\",\n  title = \t\"{Parametric Design Using Constraint Description Graph}\", \n  booktitle = \t\"CAD '92, Neue Konzepte zur Realisierung\n\t\t anwendungsorientierter CAD-Systeme\",\n  year = \t\"1992\",\n  editor = \t\"{Frank-Lothar} Krause and Detlev Ruland and Helmut Jansen\",\n  pages = \t\"329--344\",\n  OPTorganization = \t\"\",\n  publisher = \t\"Informatik aktuell, Springer-Verlag, Berlin\/Heidelberg\",\n  OPTaddress = \t\"\",\n  month = \t\"14.\/15.\\ Mai\",\n  note = \t\"GI-Fachtagung, Berlin\"\n}\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"-| \n-| Alas, we too will have to stop using it.\n-| \n-| Brian\n-| --\n-|        Brian Glendenning - National Radio Astronomy Observatory\n-| bglenden@nrao.edu          Charlottesville Va.           (804) 296-0286\n\nIt says in the licence that non-profit organisations have the rights to\ncopy, use, distribute etc.. Does that not cover NRAO ? I sure hope it\ncovers us. Please someone let me know if I have to buy a licence.\n\n\tbest regards\n\t\tAta <(|)>.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nDo I think Clinton conceived of it?  No.\nDo I think Clinton ordered it?  No.\nDo I think Clinton was aware of it before it went down?  No.\nDo I think Clinton was aware of it after it went down?  Of course; who wasn't?\nDo I think Clinton prejudged these people to a certain extent because he\n                   believed the BATF crap about child abuse and stockpiling\n                   \"evil semi-automatic weapons?\"  Yes.\nDo I think Clinton ever questioned federal jurisdiction in this matter?  No.\nDo I think Clinton ever considered the civil rights of the victims?  No.\n\n\nSome of us suspect that ALL the unlawful mistakes made on Day 1 were made \non the government's end.  That makes days 2-51 nothing but a macho \nalternative to delivering an apology.\n\n\nWho gives a good goddamn about some bullshit \"opinion poll\" of \"most \nAmericans?\"  Most Americans swallow the government line that they're fed --\nnot because they're stupid, but because it's the only line they ever hear.\n\n\"Most Americans\" thought the staff at the McMaster(?) school was guilty,\nguilty, guilty.  Woops, turns out they weren't.  \"Most Americans\" once\nthought that black slaves weren't human beings.  Woops, wrong again.\n\"Most Americans\" thought Saddam Hussein was the Antichrist.  Oh dear,\nhe was a \"special friend of the American government\" until two years \npreviously.  You know, maybe truth ISN'T determined by majority vote\nof a half-informed public after all.\n\n\nYou're just testy because of all those newsbreaks that were interrupting\n\"Roseanne.\"\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nActually, that'd be 155 mph and 60 mph (the legal speed limit for trucks) \nin *two* lanes, each direction. It's a hell of a rush when those trucks fly \nby. (or was that me flying by them? Who cares, the rush is really something \nelse, and so is the draft)","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"...\n...\n\n\n\n\n\nWe must have been watching two different games.   The Devil had one hand on\nMario's elbow and pulling the elbow caused Mario to fall so the call was\nappropriate.\n\nUsing clueless people to substantiate your claims doesn't give me a lot of\nconfidence in your call either.  Next time consider getting a second opinion\nfrom a clueful observer.  Or maybe all those available disagreed.\n\n\n\n\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"# #I used to think that homosexuals were OK -- but havng now gotten a\n# #chance through USENET to know quite a few, I've realized that I was\n# #misled in my youth.  Homosexuals are vicious, screwed-up, often\n# #really evil people.\n# \n# That's a load of shit.  If you really have the naivete to believe that the\n# bozos over on soc.motss characterize our entire populace, you need to LIVE a\n# little.  Try soc.bi, for example...you'll find almost exclusively a bunch of\n\nYet, the characteristics of soc.motss fit quite well with the other\nevidence that is available.  High promiscuity, child sexual abuse\nhistory, support for child molestation advocacy groups like NAMBLA,\nS&M, etc.\n\n# well-adjusted, friendly, humanistic people.  And, in any case, I think\n# you'll find that most people are quite different from the persona they\n# present on USENET.  For all I know, you're a wonderful, enlightened human\n# being taking the role of hatemonger for satirical effect.\n# \n# Somehow I doubt it, though....\n\nHatemonger: someone who reminds people of why homosexuals are dying\nin such large quantities of AIDS -- because their sexual compulsions\nprevented them from keeping their number of sexual partners below\nfour digits.\n\n# ## I've got a few clues for you.  (a) I'm not working to pass any laws.  (b)\n# \n# #It's being done in your name.\n# \n# And that makes it my responsibility, I see.  Suppose I kill someone in the\n# name of Clayton Cramer.  How does that make you a murderer?\n\nIf I know about it, and don't express my disapproval, it certainly\nwould make you suspicious about me, wouldn't it?\n\n# #My morals aren't yours.  I wouldn't march in a parade with a group\n# #that advocates child molestation.  It doesn't stop homosexuals.\n# \n# I wouldn't march in a parade with a group like that either.  And if you're\n# talking about NAMBLA, I think you'll find that they DO NOT advocate child\n# molestation.  I also think you'll find that the VAST MAJORITY of homosexuals\n\nThey advocate sex between adults and children, with NO lower limit on\nage.  But that's right, homosexuals don't believe that an adult sodomizing\na five year old is child molestation.\n\n# will have no truck with that group anyway.\n\nFooled me.  They march in a number of gay parades around the country.\n\n# ## #Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!\n# ## #Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.\n# ## \n# ## But not between members of the same sex, right?  How can you live with such\n# ## hypocrisy?\n# ## \n# ## ----bi    Andrew D. Simchik\t\t\t\t\tSCHNOPIA!\n# \n# #Sure.  Whatever consenting adults want to do in private is none of\n# #the government's business.  YOU are the ones that want more laws\n# #telling me what to do in private.\n# \n# Quit lumping me in with groups.  The fact is that homophobia is an evil,\n# unjustified prejudice, just like racism or sexism.  You can't reject all but\n# one of those.\n# \n# Drewcifer\n\nIt is NOTHING like racism or sexism.  You CHOOSE to be a homosexual.\nMy distaste for homosexuality is because of what homosexuals DO.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"We have the following ski equipment for sale:\n\n\n120 cm poles\t\t$20\t(white)\n\nSalomon Boots-SX80\t$40\n\t; size 320 ladies  = 8 to 8.5 in womens size shoe\n\t; two unused in-soles included.\n\nWhat's left of a ski set\nBought New; Hardly Used; Excellent Condition!\n\nAsking $55 for the entire package.\nYou pay shipping and COD charges.\n\nSend me some e-mail.\nI will provide further discriptions upon request.\n\n\n-- \n******************************************************************************\n\n\tDavis\n\tjd490475@longs.lance.colostate.edu","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"could someone repost or send to me via email the original posting of the\nClipper Chip press release.\n\nthanks\n\nandrew kriger\nhampshire college\nagk@neural.hampshire.edu","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n \tActually, You're wrong as well. The KKK is allowed to\nmarch and any attempts to curtail their freedom is rejected\n(Actually I believe the ACLU won a case for them last year). \n\tMorality should not be legilated in a free country like\nthe U.S. \n\tI'll post something on TJ and Uva under Uva for those\nHoos bashers.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"[reply to kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan)]\n \n \n \n \nJeez, can't he get anything straight.  I told him to wait for three\ndays.\n \nGOD","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
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{"text":"We`ve had the the Great Western, the [ dunno ] and the Great Northern\npostulated as Brunel`s masterpiece. Keep boxing the compass chaps, you`ll\nget round to it eventually.\n\nThe Great Western was a highly successful transatlantic mail ship,\nwith hybrid sail and steam propulsion. The Great Eastern, which broke\nthe 'Little Giant' financially and otherwise, was a revolutionary leap\nforward in ship design. A thirty thousand ton all steel vessel, with\nprimary steam propulsion, it was at the time easily the biggest ocean\ngoing vessel ever built. Brunel took advantage of the fact that cargo\nand \/ or fuel capacity rose with the cube of scale, while drag rose\nwith the square, so a really big ship could steam thousands of miles\nwithout coaling.\n\nUnfortunately, there was no real market for such a beast at the time,\nand it was eventually sold off at scrap values. As another poster\nsaid, it then went on to a successful career as a telegraph cable\nlaying ship. It was in fact the only ship of its day capable of laying\na transatlantic cable in one go, with the endurance and capacity to\ncarry the huge reel all the way, and the manoeuverabilty to dredge for\ndefective sections. See Arthur C Clarke`s book \"How the World was One\"\n[ I think that`s right ]\n\nIf that`s how the Shuttle goes down in history, as a technical triumph\nand a financial disaster for the builder, it would not be entirely\nignoble, but I doubt if history will be so charitable.  Its true the\nShuttle can do things no other launch system can do, but are they\nworth doing? With low cost access to space, you could have an\naffordable space station for doing shuttle-like extended manned\nmissions. As it is, the shuttle is not so much a space-truck as a\nspace-RV, ( only not so cheap to run :-( )","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"At the risk of getting lost in the clipper chip discussion I give a  \nsummary on my recent question:\n\n\nUnfortunately the answer is no - concealing the initialisation vector  \nessentially doesn't give any additional security. I got 3 answers (from  \ngrady@netcom.com, Mark.Lomas@cl.cam.ac.uk, smb@research.att.com) that  \nopened my eyes. It's pretty simple:\n\nSay E is encryption (and D decryption) with key K on 64-bit blocks.\n\nLet c[0] be the initialisation vector,\nm[1], m[2], ... the message blocks,\nc[1], c[2], ... the cipher text blocks.\n\nThen encryption in cipher block chaining (CBC) mode works by the formula\n\n   c[i] = E(m[i] XOR c[i-1]),\n\nand decryption by\n\n   m[i] = c[i-1] XOR D(c[i]).\n\nSo if the attacker doesn't have c[0] this only affects the first message  \nblock m[1]. But she can do her key search attack on m[2], m[3], ...\n\nThe situation in cipher feedback (CFB) mode is a bit more complicated but  \nsimilar and left as an exercise for the reader :-)\n\nFinally there is the modified output feedback mode (OFB) where DES (or  \nwhatever block cipher you use) simply acts as random generator by\n\n   s[i] = E(s[i-1]) with initialisation vector (= seed) s[0],\n\nand encryption is given by\n\n   c[i] = m[i] XOR s[i].\n\nHere the usual `known plaintext' attack against XOR-bitstream ciphers  \nreduces the cracking to key search for K.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\tThis is not necessary. All you have to do is modify the config.sys\non d:\\  { or the real boot up partition\/disk }. Then, you can manually\ncopy it to c:\\ or allow stacker to do it on boot up. \n\n\tLikewise with the autoexec.bat.\n\n\n---\n\nPrivate note to Jennifer Fakult.\n\n        \"This post may contain one or more of the following:\n         sarcasm, cycnicism, irony, or humor. Please be aware \n         of this possibility and do not allow yourself to be \n         confused and\/or thrown for a loop. If in doubt, assume\n         all of the above.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":": Has anyone seen hallusions?  You can buy a poster of them and it looks like a simple dot pattern\n: when you first look at it but if you focus behind it you see a 3d picture.  I'm looking for\n: a program that generates these pictures.  There's a company in Texas that makes them but I \n: doubt if they're giving the program away.  Any help would be appreciated. \n: \nThere is a program included with the book \"Virtual Reality Playhouse\" which\nwill let you generate these pictures.  It's not a very powerful program but\nit does an acceptable job for experimentation purposes.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"It seems that there are a lot of questions regarding the Cyrix 386 compatible\n486DLC and 486DRU2.  My info comes directly from Cyrix's Fast Fax service:\nAnd also from installing one of these chips in an IBM Model 80.\n\nThe 486DLC is a 486 instruction set compatible CPU which fits into a 386DX\nsocket (Pin Grid Array, or PGA).  The DLC currently is available in 3 speeds.\nthe 25, the 33, and the 40.  They do not have a coprocessor on board, but any\nsoftware query will return coproc as present.  I guess they emulate the\ncoproc instructions.  Math functions are on the 386DX level without the\nactual coprocessor.\n\nThe internal cache on the 486DLC is 1K.  Cyrix literature claims a 85% hit\nrate.  My informal tests show that the cache accounts for a 10% performance\nboost when it is enabled by software.  Overall performance boost from a\n386DX-25 to a 486DLC-25 is about 60%.  The benchmarks I used were NU SI and\nQAPlus Dhrystones and Whetstones.  The performance, with the cache enabled,\nis about on a par with my 386DX-40 with 256K external CPU cache, which is\naround the performance for a 486SX-25.  The computer runs noticebly faster,\nand DOS 6 with Dblspace is not complaining.  The company claims OS\/2\ncompatibility, but I didn't test it.\n\nThe 486DRU2 is not a chip, as commonly thought.  The 486DRU2 is actually\na small daughterboard slightly larger than the 386DX, which contains\nthe logic to manage the clock doubler.  This board plugs into the 386DX\nPGA, and the 486DLC-33 or 40 plugs into this board.  I guess the board\ndoubles the frequency apparent to the CPU, and insert wait states when \naccess to the rest of the system is required.  There are no info available\nfrom Cyrix there.  Anyway, the DRU2 is available for 386DX-16, and 386DX-20\nonly.  Double these clock rates, and you get the 32MHZ and the 40MHZ DLCs.\nIf Cyrix is planning to do the same thing for the DRU2-50, then they need\nto put out the 50MHz DLC2 first...\n\nI also tested a DLC33 motherboard, along with a Cyrix Coprocessor.  With 64K\nexternal cache, performance were about 30% faster than the 25, but still\nsignificantly (25%?) slower than an actual Intel 486DX.\n\nIMHO, the DLC is a great, low price upgrade for people who can't afford, or\ncan't install, a new motherboard.  It is definitely worth what I paid for it,\nbut if you need 486DX-33 performance, the DLC33 won't cut it.  I'm not sure\nabout the DLC-40, but I think even if it matches the performance, it won't\nbeat it in any significant way.\n\nThe last time I posted info about the DLC, people sent quite a bit of mail,\nasking where I got it.  So here is where I got mine:\n\nTreasure Chest peripherals, they advertise in the Computer Shopper.\n1-800-677-9781\nThe 486DLC-25 kit was $179.00\n\nBut....\n\nI liked the chip so much that I found the supplier, and became a dealer.\nIf you are interested in the chip, e-mail me, and I can fax or mail you\nmore info.   I'm well aware of the net's policy against commercial use,\nSo I can;t post anymore info here.  However, if there are more questions\nregarding the 486DLC itself, I'll post what I can.\n\njamesc\n909-396-0408\n\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"The most likely explanation may have something to do with the fact that a\ngreater density of information exists on the larger capacity disk drive than\nthe smaller one. If your running the drive on a Mac I would recommend a\nshareware utility called Timedrive which tests seek, SCSI throughput and\nrotational speed. This utility should let you know what the differences are\nbetween the drives.\n***************************************************************************\n The views expressed in this posting those of the individual author only. \n[BBS Number:(613) 848-1346      MacContent is Victoria\u00d5s first Iconic BBS!]\n***************************************************************************\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\tIs there a Honda mailing list, and if so how do I subscribe to it?\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nThat's not \"showing the signs of his innate sin\", that's testing the\nlimits of his newfound independence.  A two-year-old will continually\ntest you to see just how much he can get away with, just as a pet dog\nwill.\n\nIf a child always submitted to your will in a docile fashion, would\nyou praise him and suspect that he's the Second Coming of Christ, or\nwould you seek professional help about his emotional development?\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nI've had similar problems w\/ other board types, and the problem is NOT a\nresult of the 8\/24GC board! Try Zapping the PRAM by holding down\n\"Command-Option-P-R\" durring startup! You will have to reset everything to\nyour previous preferences (The Date & Time remain intact!), but the Video\nBoard will start remembering it's previous settings!","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I have some advice for you, and some thoughts about\nyour hatred of the Minnesota North Stars:\n\n1. A real team like Toronto would not be moved, you are right,\n   just eliminated from the playoffs first round!\n2. Why stay in Minnesota when you can go to a college in\n   Western Ontario and actually take classes on map-reading\n   and the Artistry of BSing specifically set up for just you.\n3. Why should anyone love the Stars, when hating the Leafs\n   is so much better?\n4. Oh, I'm sorry.. well, maybe you can't understand my\n   big words.. next time I'll limit my vocabulary to words\n   like \"get real team now\" and \"do not waste our time\"\n5. Respond to this article. I love to laugh at your humor,\n   even though it it unintentional. I got a BIG kick out of\n   GO LEAFS GO.... go where? HOME, I think!! :)\n-- \ndelarocq@eos.ncsu.edu\n\n\n      \n---------------------------------------------------------------------------   \n1988,1989,1990,1991 AFC East Division Champions\n1991,1992, AND 1993 AFC Conference Champions!!!!!!!!  :)\n\nSquished the Fish ............... Monday Night Football, November 16, 1992..\nSQUISHED THE TRASH TALKING FISH.. AFC CHAMPIONSHIP, JANUARY 17, 1992..","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nAwesome home record or not, you need to remember the 7th game last year at the\nAud.  I'd like to see some playoff games since I'm stuck in Buffalo at UB, but\nI think Boston isn't giving up so easy.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nI can't let this pass.\n*If* the Islanders get past Pitts. (Assuming the Isles beat the Caps, God \nWilling), them I'm sorry, the Isles will crush the Leafs.\nFlame shields up.\n\n********************************************************************************\nOf course no one asked me I always interject my opinions on matters I have no \nconcern over \n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nGo Islanders!!!!!! (3 down, 1 to go)\nGo Jets for '93\n********************************************************************************\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nI bought a copy of The Satanic Verses when there was talk of the British\nGovernment banning it.  There's nothing interests me in a book more than\nmaking it illegal.\n\nHowever, it's still sitting on my shelf unread.  Perhaps I'll get round to it\nsoon.  I've still got a pile of Lem, Bulgakov and Zamyatin to go through; I\ndon't find nearly enough time to read.  In fact, there are far more\ninteresting things to do than I can ever find time for; how anyone ever\nmanages to be bored is beyond me.  If I didn't have to sleep, maybe I could\nmanage it.\n\n\nmathew","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I have been told by several people that Sony data cartridges don't quite\ncut it in the Jumbo 250 tape drive (lots of bad blocks).  If you're using Sony\ntape, try switching to something else -- like maybe 3M.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nYou mean something like Uuencode? It isn't super crypto, but it is encrypted.\n\nScott\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"man, every time this thread comes up, i start jumping up and down screaming '\nEASY WHEELS! EASY WHEELS!' but to date, it seems like _i'm_ the only one who'\ns ever seen this. it's absolutely hysterical. basic plot is this:\n\nreporter searching for a ring of babysnatchers is blow off the road by a (\nvery hot) gang of babe bikers in leather. he is rescued from his wrecked car \nin the desert by a xtian gospal biker band lead by an ex viet-nam vet with a \nsteel plate in his head that gives him visions from time to time. they soon \ndiscover that the gang 'o babes is kidnapping children to be raised by \nwolves (the reasoning behind this is complex), and they set out to stop them \nand restore justice and order to the world.\n\nit is one of the 5 funniest movies i have ever seen in my life.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"From Israeline 4\/27\/93\n\nRabin: We Must Concentrate on Qualitative Changes in Israeli\nSociety\n \nToday's AL HAMISHMAR quotes Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin's\nIndependence Day interview yesterday on Israel Television. Rabin\nsaid that enforcing Jewish sovereignty over the entire Land of\nIsrael would lead to the establishment of a bi-national state. \"I\nwould view it as if the historical destiny of my generation, Dor\nTashach, the generation that had the great privilege of determining\nthe fate of the people and founding the Jewish state, had been\nlost.\"  Rabin added, \"We must stop dreaming of settlements [i.e. in\nthe Territories] and focus on qualitative and substantive changes\nin Israeli society to make it a productive society dependent on its\nown labor.\" The Prime Minister concluded saying that he would like\nto achieve a significant breakthrough in the peace process during\nhis government's term.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n   >I'm trying to locate the Type1 rasterizer that IBM donated to The X\n   >consortium. I've found patches to it but not the original source.\n\n   It's on the R5 \"contrib\" tape.\n\n   -Mike Glendinning, Ingres UK (mikeg@ingres.co.uk).\n\nYes I found it there. Thanks everyone.\n\nThomas","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Some time back in this newsgroup, I seem to recall a thread about\npredicting the runs a given lineup of 9 batters could be expected\nto score given the appropriate statistical alphabet soup for these\nhitters (OBP, SLG, AVG, bat length, hat size, day-of-the-week,\nweather conditions, etc.).  :-)  Anyway, was I dreaming or is there\nsome such animal?\n\nMy apologies if this has been covered recently, I probably get to\nread 10% of the articles posted here.  No time.  \n\nMany thanks in advance,\n\nscotty\n\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n M. Scott Walsh                                     scottwa@pogo.wv.tek.com\n Tektronix, Inc.   Graphics Printing & Imaging Products IBD   (503)685-3622","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nI didn't exactly follow the \"dragless\" satellitte  thread.\n\nWhat is the point of it?  are they used for  laser geodesy  missions?\ntriad seemed to be some sort of navy navigation bird,  but why\nbe \"dragless\"  why not just update  orbital parameters?","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n*>\n*>McGill\/Hammond -> Johan Garpenlov.  Would you really rather have those two\n*>instead of Johan?\n*\n*\tBy your logic then you enjoy having Falloon and Ozolinsh on \n*\tinjured reserve?\n*\n\nFalloon was hurt on a clean check.  He just fell poorly.  Same with Wilson.\nI don't know about Ozolinsh.  A judo coach would do more for the Sharks \ninjury situation than Bob Probert.\n\nActually, a judo\/ju-jitsu coach could help add a really interesting \nwrinkle to anyone's game....","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I would also be interested in finding out about the '94 Talon,\nand I suspect that many other people would be interested too,\nso let's get some responses on the net.\n\nThe question again:\nDoes anyone have any info on the 1994 Eagle Talon \/ Mitsubishi\nEclipse \/ Plymouth Laser?\n\nI know that the old Talon was based on the Mitsubishi Galant,\nand that in Japan, a 240 hp twin-turbo V6 1994 Galant has been\nreleased.\n\nSo anyway, any info on the '94 Talon would be appreciated.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Someone referred to my FAQ essay on homosexuality.  Since it hasn't\nbeen posted for some time (and I've modified it somewhat since the\nlast time), I'm taking this opportunity to post it.  There is another\nentry in the FAQ containing comments by some other contributors.  They\ncan be retrieved from ftp.rutgers.edu as\npub\/soc.religion.christian\/others\/homosexuality.  It contains far\nmore detail on the exegetical issues than I give here, though\nprimarily from a conservative point of view.\n\n----------------------------\n\nThis posting summarizes several issues involving homosexuality and\nChristians.  This is a frequently asked question, so I do not post the\nquestion each time it occurs.  Rather this is an attempt to summarize\nthe postings we get when we have a discussion.  It summarizes\narguments for allowing Christian homosexuality, since most people\nasking the question already know the arguments against it.  The most\ncommon -- but not the only -- question dealt with herein is \"how can a\nChristian justify being a homosexual, given what the Bible says about\nit?\"\n\nFirst, on the definition of 'homosexual'.  Many groups believe that\nthere is a homosexual \"orientation\", i.e. a sexual attraction to\nmembers of the same sex.  This is distinguished from actual homosexual\nsexual activity.  Homosexuals who abstain from sex are considered by\nmost groups to be acceptable.  However in a lot of discussion, the\nterm 'homosexual' means someone actually engaging in homosexual sex.\nThis is generally not accepted outside the most 'liberal' groups.  In\nthis paper I'm going to use 'homosexual' as meaning a person engaging\nin sexual acts with another of the same sex.  I haven't heard of any\nBiblical argument against a person with homosexual orientation who\nremains celebate.\n\nI think most people now admit that there is a predisposition to be\nhomosexual.  This is often called a 'homosexual orientation'.  It is\nnot known whether it is genetic or environmental.  There is evidence\nsuggesting each.  The best evidence I've seen is that homosexuality is\nnot a single phenomenon, but has a number of different causes.  One of\nthem is probably genetic.  There are several groups that try to help\npeople move from being homosexual to heterosexual.  The best-known is\nExodus International\".  The reports I've seen (and I haven't read the\ndetailed literature, just the summary in the minority opinion to the\nPresbyterian Church's infamous report on human sexuality) suggest that\nthese programs have very low success rates, and that there are\nquestions about how real even the successes are.  But there certainly\nare people who say they have converted.  However this issue is not as\nimportant as it sounds.  Those who believe homosexuality is wrong\nbelieve it is intrinsically wrong, defined as such by God.  The fact\nthat it's hard to get out of being a homosexual is no more relevant\nthan the fact that it's hard to escape from being a drug addict.  If\nit's wrong, it's wrong.  It may affect how we deal with people though.\nIf it's very difficult to change, this may tend to make us more\nwilling to forgive it.\n\nOne more general background issue: It's common to quote a figure that\n10% of the population is homosexual.  I asked one of our experts where\nthis came from.  Here's his response: Kinsey (see below) is the source\nof the figure 10 percent.  He defines sexuality by behavior, not by\norientation, and ranked all persons on a scale from Zero (completely\nheterosexual) to 6 (completely heterosexual).  According to Kinsey,\none-third of all male adults have had at least one experience of\norgasm homosexually post puberty.  Ten percent of all adult males have\nmost of their experiences of homosexually.  That was in 1948.  The\npercentages held true in a followup study done by the Kinsey\nInstitute, based on data in the early seventies but not published\nuntil the early 80s or so, by Bell and Weinberg, I believe.  I can't\nput my hand on this latter reference, but here is the online\ninformation for Kinsey's own study as it appears in IRIS, the catalog\nat Rutgers:\n   AUTHOR Kinsey, Alfred Charles, 1894-1956.\n    TITLE Sexual behavior in the human male [by] Alfred C. Kinsey. Wardell B.\n          Pomeroy [and] Clyde E. Martin.\nPUBLISHER Philadelphia, W. B. Saunders Co., 1948.\n  DESCRIP xv, 804 p. diagrs. 24 cm.\n    NOTES \"Based on surveys made by members of the staff of Indiana\n\t  University, and supported by the National Research Council's \n\t  Committee for Research on Problems of Sex by means of funds \n\t  contributed by the Medical Division of the Rockefeller Foundation.\"\n\t  * Bibliography: p. 766-787.\nOTHER AUT Pomeroy, Wardell Baxter, joint author. * Martin, Clyde Eugene,\n\t  joint author.\n SUBJECTS Sex. * U. S. -- Moral Conditions.\n  LC CARD    48005195\nThis figure is widely used in all scholarly discussions and has even\nbeen found to hold true in several other cultures, as noted in the\nrecent NEWSWEEK coverstory \"Is this child gay?\" (Feb. 24, 1992).  A\njournalist is running the rounds of talk shows this season promoting\nher book that allegedly refutes Kinsey's study, but the scholarly\nworld seems to take her for a kook......\n\nI've seen some objections to the Kinsey's study, but not in enough\ndetail to include here.  (If someone would like to contribute another\nview, I'd be willing to include it.)\n\nMost Christians believe homosexuality (at least genital sex) is wrong.\nNot all, however.  A few denominations accept it.  The Metropolitan\nCommunity Churches is the best-known -- it was formed specifically to\naccept homosexuals.  However the United Church of Christ also allows\nit, and I think a couple of other groups may as well.  The Episcopal\nChurch seems to accept it some areas but not others.  In churches that\nhave congregational government, you'll find a few congregations that\naccept it (even among Southern Baptists, though the number is probably\nonly one or two congregations).  But these are unusual -- few churches\npermit homosexual church leaders.  How carefully they enforce this is\nanother issue.  I don't have any doubt that there are homosexual\npastors of just about every denomination, some more open than others.\n\nAs to the arguments over the Biblical and other issues, here's an\nattempt to summarize the issues:\n\nThe most commonly cited reference by those favoring acceptance of\nhomosexuality in previous discussions has been John Boswell:\n\"Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality\", U Chicago Press,\n1980.\n\nThe argument against is pretty clear.  There are several explicit laws\nin the OT, e.g. Leviticus 20:13, and in Rom 1 Paul seems pretty negative on\nhomosexuality.  Beyond these references, there are some debates.  Some\npassages often cited on the subject probably are not relevant.  E.g.\nthe sin which the inhabitants of Sodom proposed to carry out was\nhomosexual *rape*, not homosexual activity between consenting adults.\n(There's even some question whether it was homosexual, since the\nentities involved were angels.)  It was particularly horrifying\nbecause it involved guests, and the responsibility towards guests in\nthat culture was very strong.  (This is probably the reason Lot\noffered his daughter -- it was better to give up his daughter than to\nallow his guests to be attacked.)  If you look through a concordance\nfor references to Sodom elsewhere in the Bible, you'll see that few\nseem to imply that homosexuality was their sin.  There's a Jewish\ninterpretive tradition that the major sin was abuse of guests.  At any\nrate, there's no debate that homosexual *rape* is wrong.\n\nI do not discuss Leviticus because the law there is part of a set\nof laws that most Christians do not consider binding.  So unless NT\njustification can be found, Lev. alone would not settle the issue.\n\nThe NT references are all in Paul's letters.  A number of the\nreferences from Paul are lists of sins in which the words are fairly\nvague.  Boswell argues that the words occuring in these lists do not\nin the lists (i.e. I Cor 6:9 and I Tim 1:10) are \/malakos\/ and\n\/arsenokoitai\/.  Unfortunately it is not entirely clear what the words\nactually mean.  \/malakos\/, with a basic meaning of soft, has a variety\nof metaphorical meanings in ethical writing.  Boswell suggests\n\"wanton\" as a likely equivalent.  He also reports that the unanimous\ninterpretation of the Church, including Greek-speaking Christians, was\nthat in this passage it referred to masturbation, a meaning that has\nvanished only in the 20th Cent., as that practice has come to be less\nfrowned-upon.  (He cites references as late as the 1967 edition of the\nCatholic Encyclopedia that identify it as masturbation.)  He\ntranslates \/arsenokotai\/ as male prostitute, giving evidence that none\nof the church fathers understood the term as referring to\nhomosexuality in general.  A more technical meaning, suggested by the\nearly Latin translations, would be \"active mode homosexual male\nprostitute\", but in his view Paul did not intend it so technically.\n\nFor a more conservative view, I consulted Gordon Fee's commentary on I\nCor.  He cites evidence that \/malakos\/ often meant effeminate.\nHowever Boswell warns us that in Greek culture effeminate is not\nnecessarily synonymous with homosexual, though it may be associated\nwith some kinds of homosexual behavior.  Given what Boswell and Fee\nsay taken together, I suspect that the term is simply not very\ndefinite, and that while it applies to homosexuals in some cases, it\nisn't a general term for homosexuality.  While Fee argues against\nBoswell with \/arsenokotai\/ as well, he ends up suggesting a\ntranslation that seems essentially the same.  The big problem with it\nis that the word is almost never used.  Paul's writing is the first\noccurence.  The fact that the word is clearly composed of \"male\" and\n\"f**k\" unfortunately doesn't quite tell us the meaning, since it\ndoesn't tell us whether the male is the subject or object of the\naction.  Examples of compound words formed either way can be given.\nIn theory it could refer to rapists, etc.  It's dangerous to base\nmeaning purely on etymology, or you'll conclude that \"goodbye\" is a\nreligious expression because it's based on \"God by with ye\".  However\nsince Boswell, Fee, and NIV seem to agree on \"homosexual male\nprostitute\", that seems as good a guess as any.  Note that this\ntranslation misses the strong vulgarity of the term however (something\nwhich Fee and Boswell agree on, but do not attempt to reproduce in\ntheir translation).\n\nIn my opinion, the strongest NT reference to homosexuality is Romans\n1.  Boswell points out that Rom 1 speaks of homosexuality as something\nthat happened to people who were naturally heterosexual, as a result\nof their corruption due to worshipping false gods.  One could argue\nthat this is simply an example: that if a homosexual worshipped false\ngods, he would also fall into degradation and perhaps become\nheterosexual.  However I find this argument somewhat forced, and in\nfact our homosexual readers have not seriously proposed that this is\nwhat Paul meant.\n\nHowever I am not convinced that Rom 1 is sufficient to create a law\nagainst homosexuality for Christians.  What Paul is describing in Rom\n1 is not homosexuality among Christians -- it's homosexuality that\nappeared among idolaters as one part of a whole package of wickedness.\nDespite the impression left by his impassioned rhetoric, I'm sure Paul\ndoes not believe that pagans completely abandoned heterosexual sex.\nGiven his description of their situation, I rather assume that their\nheterosexual sex would also be debased and shameless.  So yes, I do\nbelieve that this passage indicates a negative view of homosexuality.\nBut in all fairness, the \"shameless\" nature of their acts is a\nreflection of the general spiritual state of the people, and not a\nspecific feature of homosexuality.\n\nMy overall view of the situation is the following: I think we have\nenough evidence to be confident that Paul disapproved of\nhomosexuality.  Rom 1 seems clear.  While I Cor 6:9 and I Tim 1:10 are\nnot unambiguous and general condemnations of homosexuality, they do\nnot seem like wording that would come from someone who approved of\nhomosexuality or even considered it acceptable in some cases.  On the\nother hand, none of these passages contains explicit teachings on the\nsubject.  Rom 1 is really about idolatry.  It refers to homosexuality\nin passing.\n\nThe result of this situation is that people interpret these passages\nin light of their general approach to Scripture.  For those who look\nto Scripture for laws about issues such as this, it not surprising\nthat they would consider these passages to be NT endorsement of the OT\nprohibition.  For those whose approach to the Bible is more liberal,\nit is not surprising that they regard Paul's negative view of\nhomosexuality as something that he took from his Jewish upbringing\nwithout any serious reexamination in the light of the Gospel.  As\nreaders of this group know by now, the assumptions behind these\napproaches are so radically different that people tend to foam at the\nmouth when they see the opposing view described.  There's not a lot I\ncan do as moderator about such a situation.\n\nA number of discussions in the past centered around the sort of\ndetailed exegesis of texts that is described above.  However in fact\nI'm not convinced that defenders of homosexuality actually base their\nown beliefs on such analyses.  The real issue seems to rest on the\nquestion of whether Paul's judgement should apply to modern\nhomosexuality.\n\nOne commonly made claim is that Paul had simply never faced the kinds\nof questions we are trying to deal with.  He encountered homosexuality\nonly in contexts where most people would probably agree that it was\nwrong.  He had never faced the experience of Christians who try to act\n\"straight\" and fail, and he had never faced Christians who are trying\nto define a Christian homosexuality, which fits with general Christian\nideals of fidelity and of seeing sexuality as a mirror of the\nrelationship between God and man.  It is unfair to take Paul's\njudgement on homosexuality among idolaters and use it to make\njudgements on these questions.\n\nAnother is the following: In Paul's time homosexuality was associated\nwith a number of things that Christians would not find acceptable.  It\nwas part of temple prostitution.  Among private citizens, it often\noccured between adults and children or free people and slaves.  I'm\nnot in a position to say that it always did, but there are some\nreasons to think so.  The ancients distinguished between the active\nand passive partner.  It was considered disgraceful for a free adult\nto act as the passive partner.  (This is the reason that an active\nmode homosexual prostitute would be considered disgraceful.  His\ncustomers would all be people who enjoyed the passive role.)  This\nsupports the idea that it would tend not to be engaged in between two\nfree adult males, at least not without some degree of scandal.\nClearly Christian homosexuals would not condone sex with children,\nslaves, or others who are not in a position to be fully responsible\npartners.  (However Fee's commentary on I Cor cites some examples from\nancient literature of homosexual relationships that do seem to involve\nfree adults in a reasonably symmetrical way.  Thus the considerations\nin this paragraph shouldn't be pushed too far.  Homosexuality may have\nbeen discredited for Jews by some of these associations, but there\nsurely must be been cases that were not prostitutes and did not\ninvolve slaves or children.)\n\nSome people have argued that AIDS is a judgement against\nhomosexuality.  I'd like to point out that AIDS is transmitted by\npromiscuous sex, both homosexual and heterosexual.  Someone who has a\nhomosexual relationship that meets Christian criteria for marriage is\nnot at risk for AIDS.\n\nNote that there is good reason from Paul's general approach to doubt\nthat he would concede homosexuality as a fully equal alternative,\napart from any specific statements on homosexuality.  I believe his\nuse of the Genesis story would lead him to regard heterosexual\nmarriage as what God ordained.\n\nHowever the way Paul deals with pastoral questions provides a warning\nagainst being too quick to deal with this issue legally.\n\nI claim that the question of how to counsel homosexual Christians is\nnot entirely a theological issue, but also a pastoral one.  Paul's\ntendency, as we can see in issues such as eating meat and celebrating\nholidays, is to be uncompromising on principle but in pastoral issues\nto look very carefully at the good of the people involved, and to\navoid insisting on perfection when it would be personally damaging.\nFor example, while Paul clearly believed that it was acceptable to eat\nmeat, he wanted us to avoid pushing people into doing an action about\nwhich they had personal qualms.  For another example, Paul obviously\nwould have preferred to see people (at least in some circumstances)\nremain unmarried.  Yet if they were unable to do so, he certainly\nwould rather see them married than in a state where they might be\ntempted to fornication.\n\nI believe one could take a view like this even while accepting the\nviews Paul expressed in Rom 1.  One may believe that homosexuality is\nnot what God intended, that it occured as a result of sin, but still\nconclude that at times we have to live with it.  Note that in the\ncreation story work enters human life as a result of sin.  This\ndoesn't mean that Christians can stop working when we are saved.  The\nquestion is whether you believe that homosexuality is in itself sinful\nor whether you believe that it's a misfortune that is in a broad sense\ndue to human sinfulness.  If you're willing to consider the latter\napproach, then it becomes a pastoral judgement whether there is more\ndamage caused by finding a way to live with it or trying to cure it.\nThe dangers of trying to cure it are that the attempt most often\nfails, and when it does, you end up with damage ranging from\npsychological damage to suicide, as well as broken marriages when\nattempts at living as a heterosexual fail.\n\nThis is going to depend upon one's assessment of the inherent nature\nof homosexuality.  If you believe it is a very serious wrong, then you\nmay be willing to run high risks of serious damage to get rid of it.\nClearly we do not generally suggest that people live with a tendency\nto steal or with drug addiction, even though attempts to cure these\nconditions are also very difficult.  However these conditions are\nintrinsically damaging in a way that is not so obvious for\nhomosexuality.  (Many problems associated with homosexuality are\nactually problems of promiscuity, not homosexuality.  This includes\nAIDS.  I take for granted that the only sort of homosexual\nrelationships a Christian would consider allowing would be equivalent\nto Christian heterosexual relationships.)\n\nIn the course of discussing this over the last decade or so, we've\nheard a lot of personal testimony from fellow Christians who are in\nthis situation.  I've also seen summaries of various research and the\nresults of various efforts for \"conversion\".  (Aside from the\nPresbyterian report mentioned above, there's an FAQ that summarizes\nour readers' reports on this question.)  The evidence is that\nlong-term success in changing orientation is rare enough to be on a\npar with healing miracles.  The danger in advising Christians to\ndepend upon such a change is clear: When \"conversion\" doesn't happen,\nwhich is almost always, the people are often left in despair, feeling\nexcluded from a Church that has nothing more to say but a requirement\nof life-long celibacy.  Paul recognized (though in a different\ncontext) that such a demand is not practical for most people, and I\nthink the history of clerical celibacy has strongly reinforced that\njudgement.  The practical result is that homosexuals end up in the gay\nsex clubs and the rest of the sordid side of homosexuality.  Maybe\nhomosexuality isn't God's original ideal, but I can well imagine Paul\npreferring to see people in long-term, committed Christian\nrelationships than promiscuity.  As with work -- which Genesis\nsuggests wasn't part of God's original ideal either -- I think such\nrelationships can still be a vehicle for people sharing God's love\nwith each other.\n\nThere's an issue of Biblical interpretation underlying this\ndiscussion.  The issue is that of \"cultural relativism\".  That is,\nwhen Paul says that something is wrong, should this be taken as an\neternal statement, or are things wrong because of specific situations\nin the culture of the time?  Conservative Christians generally insist\non taking prohibitions as absolute, since otherwise the Bible becomes\nsubjective -- what is to stop us from considering everything in it as\nrelative?\n\nWhen looking at this issue, it's worth noting that no one completely\nrejects the concept of cultural relativism.  There are a number of\njudgements in the New Testament that even conservative Christians\nconsider to be relative.  The following judgements are at least as\nclear in the Bible as anything said on homosexuality:\n\n  - prohibition against charging interest (this occurs 18 times in\n\tthe OT -- it's not in the NT, but I mention it here because\n\tuntil relatively recently the Church did consider it binding\n\ton Christians)\n  - prohibition against swearing oaths\n  - endorsement of slavery as an institution\n  - judgement of tax collectors as sinner\n\nWe do not regard these items as binding.  In most cases, I believe the\nargument is essentially one of cultural relativism.  Briefly:\n\n  - prohibition of interest is appropriate to a specific\n\tagrarian society that the Bible was trying to build,\n\tbut not to our market economy.\n  - few people believe that American judicial oaths have the\n\tsame characteristics as the kind of oaths Jesus was\n\tconcerned about\n  - most people believe that Paul was simply telling people\n\thow to live within slavery, but not endorsing it as\n\tan institution\n  - for people believe that the IRS is morally equivalent to\n\tRoman tax farming\n\nThe point I'm trying to make is that before applying Biblical\nprohibitions to the 20th Cent., we need to look at whether the 20th\nCent. actions are the same.  When Christian homosexuals say that their\nrelationships are different than the Greek homosexuality that Paul\nwould have been familiar with, this is exactly the same kind of\nargument that is being made about judicial oaths and tax collectors.\nUntil fairly recently Christians prohibited taking of interest, and\nmany Christians regarded slavery as divinely endorsed.  (Indeed,\nslavery is one of the more common metaphors for the relationship\nbetween God and human beings -- Christians are often called servants\nor slaves of God.)\n\nI am not trying to say that everything in the Bible is culturally\nrelative.  Rather, I'm trying to say that *some* things are, and\ntherefore it is not enough to say that because something appears in\nthe Bible, that ends the discussion.  We need to look at whether the\naction we're talking about now has the same moral implications as the\none that the Bible was talking about.  If Christians want to argue\nthat there are reasons to think that the prohibitions against\nhomosexuality are still binding, I'm willing to listen.  Those who\nclaim that the question doesn't need to be looked at are kidding\nthemselves (unless they are part of the small minority who really obey\nall the rules listed above).\n\nOne thing that worries me is the great emotions that this issue\ncreates.  When you consider the weakness of the Biblical evidence --\nsome laws in Leviticus, a passage in Rom whose subject matter is\nreally idolatry rather than homosexuality, and a couple of lists whose\nwords are ambiguous -- the amount of concern this is raising among\nChristians seems rather out of proportion.  This should suggest to\npeople that there are reasons other than simply Biblical involved.\nThis is true on both sides -- clearly homosexual Christians are as\nstrongly motivated to find ways of discrediting the Biblical arguments\nas conservative Christians are to find Biblical arguments.  But I\ncan't help feeling that the Bible is being used by both sides as a way\nof justifying attitudes which come from other sources.  This is a\ndangerous situation for Christians.\n\nOn the other side of the issue, I would like to note some problems I\nhave with the pro-homosexual position as it is commonly presented.\nOne of the most common arguments is that homosexuality is biologically\ndetermined.  I.e. \"God made me homosexual\", and I have no choice.  I\nthink \"God made me homosexual\" is a fine view for people who already\nbelieve on other grounds that homosexuality is acceptable.  But I\ndon't see it as an argument for acceptability.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I still can't understand all the hype about the Impalla SS, it STILL has\nthe ugly Caprice body (Orca on wheels).  The Caprice was the worst new\nbody style to come out of Detroit EVER! Now just because the LT1 engine\nand a few suspension tweeks are being added.\n\nIts STILL UGLY, its STILL a BARGE.  GM's answer to everything is \"throw in\na V8 and someone will buy it.\"  Or \"add some plastic ground affects\nand a few stickers and call it a GT, GTZ or SS, and someone will buy it.\"\n\nIMHO GM needs to scrap the Caprice body COMPLETELY and start over with a\nBLANK sheet of paper.  No minor modification (wheel well treatments, tail\namp modification, or nose re-design or even the LT1 engine) will help\nthe existing Caprice.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"# Mr Cramer-\n# \n# You are on one hand condemning the news media as;\n# \n# \"The Role of the National News Media in Inflaming Passions\" that\n# was your message subject I believe.\n# \n# Then you turn around and actually take; From the Santa Rosa (Cal.) Press-Democrat,\n# April 15, 1993, p. B2: \n# \n# Male sex survey: Gay activity low title.\n# \n# You even use such a title for the San Jose Mercury News- the Murky News.\n# \n# Now which is it?  Are you going to comdemn national media, then turn around\n# and use it to support some position you present?  Seems somewhat contradictory\n# doesn't it.\n\nIf you can show me that the Press-Democrat misrepresented the Guttmacher\nInstitute's study, do so.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Do we know yet who will be holding the hearings? And, if so, do\nwe know who is on the committee of question askers? I'm sure\nmany of us have potential questions we'd like to send to them.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nI can't speak to sheer mass, but part of the problem is that HST\nwasn't built to ever be brought back down.  It's not built for those\nkinds of 'jolt' forces and there is no support cradle for it (which is\nadditional weight that would be required.\n\n-- \n\"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live\n in the real world.\"   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I don't know if anyone has posted a message like this yet, but i'm\ngetting really sick of espn showing the last minute of a hockey\ngame, in which the score was just tied, and then cutting out and saying\n\"sorry we can't show you this we have to show baseball tonight\" (not\neven a game. a friggin HIGHLIGHT show).\ngee, sure would have been nice to see the isles\/caps in overtime.\nI live in Pittsburgh (yes i'm a pens fan) where hockey gets a lot\nof coverage.  i can only imagine how a caps fan residing in Texas\nmust feel.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n    Ah... Ok. I didn't realize that you were talking about an Apple\ndivision other than AppleUS. AppleUS, being the main division, is the\none that contains what most people feel are the correct names and\nconfigurations for the majority of Apple customers, and it is generally\nassumed that you are talking about AppleUS when you just say Apple. At\nleast that's how it has always been in this newsgroup. All other Apple\ndivisions are, apparantly, free to change names and configurations if\nthey feel like it. I know that Apple Canada does this kind of stuff all\nthe time. It's not a mistake, it's Apple Sweden giving a different name\nto an Apple product other than what AppleUS calls it.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I give up.  What's new about yet another interpretation of the\nodl Adam and Eve story?\n      -- Michael\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Does anyone know what kind of car Mad Max used in \"Road Warrior\"?\n\nThey called it \"the last of the V-8 Interceptors...\"\n\nI couldnt tell what it was, it was so chopped up.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"[stuff deleted]\n\nI agree with the flavor of this post, but disagree with one specific\nargument.  That \"has great hands\" means nothing.  It seems to me that\na first-baseman's defensive value is not entirely (or even primarily)\nfrom his ability to field grounders or catch popups.  How many such\nchances does he get during a game?  Many fewer than he gets chances\nto catch throws from 2B,SS,3B and P (I mean the total of these is\nmuch higher than Grounder\/Popup totals).  This implies to me that there\nis value in catching these throws well, even if they are high, up-the-line\nor in the dirt.  \"Good Hands\" are needed for such plays, and thus have\nvalue.  I don't have any numbers for the relative number of occurences\nof these plays, but I'd guess that the values of these abilities are\nsimilar.  It's just like: you don't judge catcher's defense primarily\non how they field bunts and popups. (But not as marked I suppose).","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Hello Net.People,\n\nWe have a LaserWriter Select 310 (standard 1.5Mb RAM) connected to an LC\nIII (4\/80).\n\nThe print driver cannot find any Adobe Type 1 fonts or any TrueType fonts\nin the System.\n\nThe connections to the printer and the Driver installation are correct\nbut this 310 printer still refuses to find fonts and work correctly out\nof the box.\n\nIMHO, an Apple product not working out of the box is a shameful event.\n\nThe installer disks for the printer install: LW Select 310 driver v 1.0,\nPrintMonitor v 7.1 and backgrounder v 3.1 (!) on a System 7.1 LC III.\n\nHas anyone else had similar experiences with this printer\/configuration,\nbecause we really need some help on this one.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"DON MATTINGLY IS THE BEST FIRST BASEMAN IN THE HISTORY OF BASEBALL.....ALWAYS\nHAS BEEN.....ALWAYS WILL BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Perhaps it's prophetic that the week \"Where are they now?\" appears and\nI can claim to be a still-active old-timer, my news software gets bit\nrot and ships outgoing articles into a deep hole somewhere...  Anyway,\nhere's a repost:\n\n\nThese days you don't have to fall far behind... Last Monday\n(admittedly after a long weekend, but...) I had 800+ messages just in\nthose few days.  Aside from a hiatus while changing jobs last Fall\nI've been here since 1990.\n\n\nHell, Norway?  The rubber room at the funny farm?  Seminary?  It is\nnot given to us to know...","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Panasonic KX-P2124 24-pin Dot Matrix Printer\n\n\n-320 cps\n-1\/127 in. dot diameter\n-16-character LCD\n-Super Quiet Mode\n-Draft, Letter Quality, Super Letter Quality Fonts\n-Rear, Bottom, Front, or Top paper feeding (Friction or Tractor)\n-Color compatible (needs optional Color Kit)\n-includes Windows 3.1 Panasonic printer drivers disk.\n\nBought it in Jan. '93 and have used it very little. Still has\noriginal ribbon cartridge. This is a very nice printer and is in\nbrand new conditio I just dont use it often enough and I need money.\n\nI'll take $200 for it. ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Gateway service has confirmed my suspicion, echoed by a couple of people\nwho responded to the original request for help.  The ATI VLB video board\nuses the addresses for COM 4.  They could suggest no work around.\nI will be returning the DF IO card they supplied for COM 4 (even though it\ncould not possibly work) for credit against a bus mouse.  This will free\nup the COM port I need - too bad the original salesman who suggested either\nthe DF IO card or the bus mouse would solve my need for a port didn't know\nenough about the hardware.\n\nOtherwise I must say that the 486DX2\/66 system has worked very well - no\nproblems with any other hardware or software.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"It used to live in a 1990 SE, and is marked 344-0062, and the ROMs\nthat go with it are 341-0701 & 2. Is this the solution to the person\nwho wants to upgrade to FDHD ?\ncheers\nMike.\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Does anyone out there know of a site that might have\na 2-D spline fit routine useful for interpolation?\n\nthanks for any help,\nCraig Morioka","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThat is an assumption on your part.  Where is your proof that one always will\ndegenerate into hating the sinner, because he hates the sin.\n\nI am reminded of the Civil Rights movement in America.  It is true that many\nindividuals hated the proponents of racism.  It is also true that many \nindividuals hated segregation and discrimination with their whole heart and\nnever degenerated into hating the individuals who practiced it.  Dr. King's\nmessage was this.  Love the individual, the loving of the individual would\ntransform him into a friend.  However, this did not take away his hatred for\nsegregation.  His hatred for injustice.  \n\n\n\nI would ask, \"Did John the Baptist practice love when he criticized the Jewish\nLeaders of his day?\"  Did Jesus Practice love when he threw the moneychangers\nout of the temple?\n\nWe must have at least a distase for sin.  We must in order to fight it in \nourselves.  Also we must be ready for the call from God to call sin by its\nright name.  Jesus loved everyone, but he called sin by its right name.\n\nIt is true that love for others is to guide every step of our walk, but it is\nalso true that sometimes the love for God calls us to stand up for truth.\n\n--\n\"Competition is the law of the jungle.\n Cooperation is the law of civilization.\"  --  Eldridge Cleaver","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I just got caller-id (except Bell calls it \"call display\" and didn't know\nwhat I was talking about when I asked for \"caller-id\").  I got the\ncheapest display box I could find, and hope to convert it to serial out.\n\nThe chip used is an 18-pin DIP marked \"CDT 14-285\" and \"1473 9220\".\nI presume the 9220 is the date.\n\nI'm hoping somebody out there knows something about this chip, to save\nme a very strange few hours hooked up to a scope, asking my friends to\ncall me again and again.\n\nI'll post any interesting replies, and my experiences.\n\n-simon tooke","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"  One of the main reasons nations like the US and RUSSIA observe satellite\n  that have been launched is FORBs system whick loft nuclear bombs into\n  orbit which are planned to be detonated in LEO causing EMP pulses\n  interfering with the target command and control system.\n\n\t\t\t\t\t     \n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nSo, who is Mykotronx, Inc.?  It would be nice to know that they are\nnot a front company used by an intelligence or other agency of the \nU.S. government.\n\nWhile we are at it, the chip design(s) should be examined and verified\nagainst silicon to insure no trap doors or hidden protocols exist in silicon,\nregardless of the security level of the encryption algorithm.  There is\nno proof that the chip won't squeel and role over for someone with the\nproper knowledge to interrogate it via the communications link.\n\nThe design examination should be done to the gate level.  Also, how does one\nverify that what you are looking at is reflected in tapeout, or masks?\n\nThe silicon should be examined as well, the design in hand (a clean room\npublicly defined clipper chip) can be merged with another design later, or\nchanged between completion and mask out.  There is little proof that what\nyou are told is in the chip is all that is in the chip.\n\nPut the (verified) masks in escrow, and use them for chip production,\nuse a third escrow party for programming the chips. ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Hi All,\n\nI've heard of a commercial package named ZINK, that could convert MS-Windows\nsource-code to XWindows source-code (C). The only problem is, the package\nisn't available in Holland (at least, I can't find it anywhere :-( )\n\nIs there another package (preferrably free- or shareware), that can do the \nsame thing? And if so, where can I find or buy it?\n\nThanks in advance","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nSomeone from NASA posted that there were very significant mass margins\non the HST re-boost mission.  A while back i had asked why not carry\nthe EDO pallet up,  and the answer was the mass margins were tight enough, they weren't even carrying extra suits.\n\n\nWhere's wingo when you need him:-)\n\nCOme on.   Knock that S**T off.\n\nYOu forget,  that during skylab,  they did  overnight mission planning\nfor the repair EVA's.   Also during the\u00f8\u00c4   \nIntelsat Mission,   they did overnight  WETF simulations.\nI somehow think they could train up a new  EVA in  8 months.\n\nAnd as for building hardware,  anything can  be built if you want it\nbad enough.\n\nYOu forget,  the  BUS 1  is already built.  all they'd ahve to do\nis soup it up, even test it  on a delta mission.\n\nDon't get into this mode of  negativism.   besides,  at the rate\nmissions slip,   the Discovery won't launch on this mission until\nMarch.  that's almost a year.\n\n\nAh,  but how much more expensive is the Second HST servicing mission.\n\nYOu forget,  there is a bum FGS,  the Solar array electronics, are\ngetting hinky  and there is still 8 months until the servicing mission.\n\nThe time for the space walks are growing rapidly.  THis was orignally\nplanned out as 3 spacewalks,  now they are at 5 EVA's  with 3 reserve\nwalks.\n\nIf the SMT can avoid a second servicing mission that's $500 million\nsaved.  If the Weight savings,  means they  can sit on orbit  for 30 Days.\nand  handle any contingency  problems,  that's quite a savings.\n\n\n\nOf course,  there wasn't any need for the Saturn  V  after apollo too.\n\nas for the problems with the aperture door,  I am sure they can\nwork out some way to handle  that.  Maybe a Plug  made from\nFrozen ice.?   it'll keep out any contamination,\nyet sublime away  after teh boost.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"tha\n\nAny death is serious.  Wanna discuss match control?  Firearms related  \nunintentional deaths among children ages 14 and under are the fault of one or  \nmore negligent persons, not the gun.\n\n\nProviding false hope, then, is the intent?\n\n\n200% increase in California schools, eh?  Gun control is working fine, there!\nSo your religion is different.  Does that make it his wrong?  Even assuming  \nKoresh actually made that decision, and the verdict is still out on that.\n\n \n\nJim\n--\njmd@handheld.com","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":": Oh bull pucky, Ed. They use dogs because a) Many people are\n: scared shitless of them and b) because of the nose and the\n: vision and hearing. Without their cop partner in attendance,\n: the dog is so much meat in the hands of any human with\n: a bad attitude and al ittle training in violent force.\n\nOne of the things that police dogs are used for is to\n\"take the bullet\" instead of the human police officer.\nAs Charles said, many people are scared of dogs and will\npanic when one goes on attack.  They will then turn their \nweapon on the dog and this allows the police officer to\ntake control.\n\n: Your advice is correct, but a dog is still no match for a trained\n: human in a fight.\n\nA single person vs. a single dog in a face-to-face confrontation should\nreally be no contest.  The dog is no match for a human willing to fight.\nMultiple dogs is a different story . . .","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nOr a religion is a cult that got co-opted by people who are better at\ncompartmentalizing their irrationality.\n\nPeter","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n  What is your proof that they \"did the best they could\"?   Unless\n  they had strong evidence that the children were in IMMEDIATE danger\n  then \"the best they could\" have done was to SHOW RESTRAINT.\n\n  Some of us DID predict this outcome, or at least suggested a\n  strong possibility of it.  I, for one, said that in the event of\n  an assault against the building the CHILDREN were the ones in danger\n  either from the assault itself or from a \"Jonestown\" (my phrase\n  a week after the seige started) style suicide.  And as I pointed\n  out then, and repeatedly over the objections of people on the net \n  who disagreed with me, an adult may freely choose suicide but they\n  have no right to impose this choice on their children.\n\n  Now, while I don't expect the FBI to pay any attention to what I \n  have to say on this, I *DO* expect them to figure it out on their\n  own or to take the advice of experts.  The cult specialist inter-\n  viewed in yesterday's Boston Globe said he was repeatedly \"stonewalled\"\n  by the FBI when he pointed out to them that their confrontational\n  tactics played perfectly into Koresh's mad view of the world and so \n  increased the chance of a tragic outcome.\n\n\n  Give *US* a break!   Pumping teargas for 45 minutes into a compound \n  filled with CHILDREN?!!   This doesn't seem to show much regard for \n  their lives or safety.   \"Nontoxic teargas\" is an oxymoron.  Children\n  have tiny respiratory passages which are easily blocked by the secretions\n  induced by teargas; moreover teargas can easily cause fatalities in anyone\n  subject to laryngospasms, asthma, or heart disease.\n\n  If a madman is holding a gun to a hostage, someone who provokes the \n  madman by attacking him bears nearly as much repsonsibility for the\n  death of the hostage as the madman himself.  These kinds of situations\n  have to be handled *delicately* - not by surrounding a place with\n  tanks and heavily armed personnel and blaring rock music from loud-\n  speakers at all hours.   That approach is idiotic.  \n\n\n\n  The solution is to greatly reduce the authority of the \"the authorities\".\n  The Feds showed themselves here, as they have so many times in the\n  past, to be a gang of trigger-happy, impulsive, yahoos who cause more\n  trouble than they prevent.    Their confrontational approach reinforced\n  every single message Koresh was giving his followers, virtually guarantee-\n  ing that whatever crazy solution Koresh proposed would be followed\n  willingly.   This was pointed out here, on Compuserve, in the press,\n  just about every place except in the Justice Department where it seems\n  a n.i.h. philosophy prevails.  \n  ","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nThank you very much for clarifying your position and source.  Apologies \nare accepted in good faith.  This absolutely was no attempt to bring you to\nyour knees, It is merely a suggestion to really check and re-sheck your\nsources before throwing a flame into the net.\n\nThanx again","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nYes, Xhibition is for the X Window System.  The X Window System Conference \nremains the largest and most complete conference devoted to X.  Nineteen full\nand half day tutorials and thirty-six technical sessions over three days\nprovide huge amounts of information for X application developers.  Add vendor\nexhibits and a Product Presentation track to provide information on what\nfolks can purchase today, and you have a complete show focused on X11.\n\nSpeakers at Xhibition 93 include: \n\n  Bob Schiefler, Lu Abel, Mark Ackerman, Paul Asente, Doug Blewett, \n  Donna Converse, Jim Fulton, Oliver Jones, Keith Packard, Ralph Swick, \n  Doug Young, and many others.\n\nXhibition is growing (fortunately for us:-) and we have added some additional\nconferences.  Surveys that we have given have indicated additional topics of\ninterest.  These include: object oriented technologies such as the Object\nManagement Group's ORB and CORBA; C++ as it applies to X; client server\ntechnologies such as DCE; threads; databases- object oriented and relational;\nand (not surprisingly when you look at the audience) Windows NT.\n\nWith the bulk of the Xhibition audience (and the UNIX community) developing\napplications for in-house or custom use, a new 32-bit operating system from a\nplayer as large as Microsoft needs to be evaluated. With MS Windows on so many\ndesktops, and the price of computing power dropping, its successor needs to be\nevaluated.  As corporations begin to look at NT, so must their developers and\nsuppliers.\n\nThe mission of the Xhibition technical conferences is to provide information\nto the application developer and to the technology planner.  The NT Conference\nat Xhibition is designed to do just that.  We worked with Microsoft to provide\nthe *only* conference this year specifically designed to show X and UNIX\ndevelopers the capabilities of Windows and NT.  If you aren't sure that NT has\nwhat you need for your application development or systems deployment, this is\nthe place to find out.  Ask the folks from Microsoft, get them to show you\nwhat you need.  Conference attendees will receive NT Software Development\nKits- to bang on, evaluate, and generally to see for yourself.\n\nI hope this doesn't sound like an NT commercial (it should sound like an\nXhibition commercial:-).  I just want to reiterate that the Xhibition audience\nis growing and Xhibition is growing along with it.  The industry is a\nconfusing place at the moment with UNIX, COSE, NT, DCE, CORBA, and all of\nthe other acronyms sprouting up.  Xhibition can help sort out the confusion.\n\n\n-Aub Harden\n Technical Program Manager\n harden@ics.com\n\n\n        X H I B I T I O N   The Conference and Trade\n         ******    *****    Show for Corporate\n        *      *       *    Software Development\n         ******     ***  \n             *         *    201 Broadway\n          ***     *****     Cambridge, MA  02139\n\n              Windows on Distributed Computing\n\n                 June 7 - 11,   San Jose, CA\n\n           xhibit@ics.com  uunet!ics.com!xhibit\n        Voice: (617) 621-0060  Fax: (617) 621-9555","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"%\n%By Elias Davidsson - April 1991 (Revision Oct. 1991)\n\nNote - you are already posting \"facts\", some of which are outdated.\n\nThe biased presentation of facts, as well as the conclusions that\nyou reach leave me little hope of engaging in any fruitful\nexchange that might lead to a \"meeting of the minds\".  It is to those\nwho read with open mind, that I address myself.\n\n%The International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of\n%Racial Discrimination adopted by the General Assembly of the\n%United Nations in 1965, has now been ratified by most member\n%states. Article 1 of this Convention defines the term racial\n%discrimination as \"any distinction, exclusion, restriction or\n%preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic\n%origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing\n%the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of\n%human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic,\n%social, cultural or any other field of public life.\"\n\nWhile the ideals embodied in this text are worthy goals,\nas the text currently stands I know of no country in which\nracial discrimination of some sort can not be found.\nIt makes no mention of the need for for a legislative\nviolation.\n\n%The General Assembly endorsed in 1975 a resolution defining\n%Zionism as a form of racism and racial discrimination. The\n%important, correct and legitimate resolution is incomplete since\n%it does not include operative statements designed to end Israeli\n%racial discrimination. Meanwhile the United States, on behalf of\n%Israel, are exerting heavy pressure on member states of the United\n%Nations to repeal this resolution and give Israeli racial\n%practices - Zionism - moral legitimacy.\n\nIf you are, in principle, advocating UN intervention via operative\nstatements in this case, it must therefore hold that they can be\napplied to any other case where the council perceives some form\nof racial discrimination as previously exhibited.\n\nScarey thought.\n\n%The very definition of Israel as a State belonging to the Jews of\n%the world (but not to its inhabitants), alienates all native\n%non-Jews born in that country. \n\nActually, I know quite a few native non-Jews born in Israel that are not\nalienated by this law.  If you had said some, you would probably be\ncorrect, however your tendency to exagerate and slant facts becomes\napparent.  This slant permeates the text.\n\n%Practically all non-Jews who are living in or originate from areas\n%under Israeli control, identify themselves as Palestinians. Most\n%of them are Muslim, many are Christian. A few Jews, including the\n%author of these lines, also identify themselves as Palestinians.\n\nThe above statement is not true.  Practically all - discounting\nBeduins, Circassians, Druze, and some other fringe groups.\nYour own identification is a matter that has no bearing upon the\nissue.  You could equally identify yourself as a [insert group].\n\n%Zionism took off in Europe at the end of last century. It's aim\n%was to create a Jewish state in Palestine in spite of the adamant\n%opposition of Palestinian Arabs (95% of the population).\n\nIf I recall correctly, at the time \"zionism\" took off, there\nwas no adamant opposition in Palestine.  I am open to any\nfactual contradictory evidence .\n\n%But the\n%Zionists were more powerful, militarily, economically and\n%technologically, and succeeded in 1948 in conquering 70% of the\n%area of Mandatory Palestine. After driving into exile most native\n%Arabs from the conquered areas, approximately 750,000 people, and\n%razing most of their villages to the ground, the Zionists could\n%finally establish a predominantly Jewish State. Only 150,000\n%non-Jews remained on Israeli territory.\n\nDo you therefore contend that the 400 villages you mention further on \"most\nof their villages\"?\n\n%Once the Jewish State was established, it began enacting laws to\n%help the confiscation of land from native non-Jews, their\n%political repression and their destitution.\n\nThere is no doubt that laws passed provided a framework which was later\nused for these purposes.  However, you seem to imply that this was the\nintention a priori, which implies a policy and agenda.  My knowledge was\nthat this was not the case.\n\nYou also neglect to mention the circumstances that surrounded\nthis.  As you do again, below.\n\n%In 1967 the State of Israel invaded Egypt and Syria and occupied\n%the rest of Palestine (the West Bank and the Gaza strip). Thus\n%another 1.5 million Palestinians fell under its juridiction. Its\n%occupation of Palestinian and other Arab territories is considered\n%illegal by the international community, as reflected in Security\n%Council resolutions. Israel has rejected all U.N. resolutions and\n%began without delay to entrench its occupation and rule over these\n%territories with the aim of annexing them at the appropriate time.\n\nNot quite accurate.  Israel has not rejected all the resolutions,\nthough it has conflicting understanding with regards to some of them.\nIsrael never annexed the Sinai, West Bank, or Gaza.  The other\nannexations were brought about partly due to the UN resolutions.\n\n%Part of these territores, East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights,\n%have already been forcefully annexed by Israel, in defiance of\n%international law and UN resolutions.\n\nOut of curiousity, provided that the annexees are granted citizenship,\nwhat int'l law do you claim prohibits annexation of territories\ncaptured in war?  Has this ever been applied to any other country\npreviously (other than Iraq) ?\n\n%It must be emphasized that, although these people live under\n%different regimes, they are united in their self-perception as\n%Palestinians, that is as people identifying with Palestine, a\n%territorial entity (not an ethnic or religious entity).\n\nIncorrect! Palestinians themselves claim to be discriminated against\non an \"ethnic or racial\" basis.  Therefore your above statement is\nincorrect.\n\nI also note that given the previous definition of racial discrimination,\nthe only means that you could argue for that is nationalistically.\nHowever, no such nation has existed.  It definitely did not exist\nat the time of the creation of Israel, in which case you can not\nargue racial discrimination during that period!\n\n%Furthermore Palestinians generally consider the PLO both as a\n%symbol of national identity and as the unchallenged authority that\n%represents them in world affairs.\n\nOnce again, some do, some don't.\n\n%The non-Jewish population living in the Palestinian and other Arab\n%territories occupied by Israel in 1967 suffers not only blatant\n%discrimination but is subject to brutal military occupation.\n\nAnother generalization, but then again, you don't seem to care\nabout anyone other than the Palestinian people, whose cause you\nespouse.\n\n%licence, to start a business and to buy industrial equipment, the\n%right to educate children, all of these basic rights are subject\n%to arbitrary rulings by military authorities and cannot be\n%challenged in court.\n\nIncorrect once again.  They have the ability to appeal.\nFurthermore, although you may not agree with them, not all\nof the military rulings are senseless or arbitrary.  Some\nare, but this is not due to the \"whims\" of the military as\nmuch as the sizeof the task\/organization.\n\n%Only Jewish inhabitants of the occupied\n%territories are permitted to carry firearms.\n\nIncorrect once again.  I know two Arab policemen who lived in\nDaheisha and there were more.  Of course, with the outbreak of\nthe intifada they were forced by the locals to resign, bitterly.\n\n%Jewish settlers have\n%right to 6-7 more water per person than non-Jews. Jewish residents\n%of these territories number now about 100,000 people. It is Israel\n%governmentUs policy to increase this number substantially, in\n%total defiance of international law, UN resolutions and the will\n%of the population. The State of Israel systematically confiscates\n%land from non-Jewish inhabitants of these territories for Jewish\n%settlement.\n\nThat is no longer true, and I can't help but wonder what your\npurpose is\/was in posting this.\n\n%Some 800,000 people in Israel proper,are not Jews. Most of them\n%consider themselves Palestinians with Israeli citizenship. For\n%many years after the establishment of Israel they were subjected\n%to harsh military control. Much of their land was confiscated by\n%the State and handed to Jewish organisations for exclusive Jewish\n%settlement. They have been subject to massacres, destitution and\n%humiliation. While they enjoy, with Jewish Israelis, the right to\n%vote, they are discriminated against both through law and in\n%practice.\n\nOnce again, to hell with the other minorities that don't fit in,\nright?  Their are many villages who did not suffer in the way\nyou seem to indicate, Abu Gosh comes to mind.  Yes, some did but\nas a result of what actions?\n\n%Approximately 92% of the surface of the State of Israel within the\n%Rgreen lineS is for all purposes closed to Palestinians who are\n%second-class citizens in Israel. They may neither legally live on\n%such land, nor rent or cultivate it. A direct effect of these\n%policies is that native non-Jewish citizens of Israel are denied\n%residence and membership rights in most rural communities in\n%Israel, including the collective settlements, kibbutzim. Non-Jews\n%are discriminated against in many other ways: The Government\n%starves local authorities of Palestinian villages and townships of\n%funds; Jewish city councils force Palestinians to live in ghettos;\n%Jewish families receive higher child allocations than their\n%non-Jewish neighbors, Palestinian schools suffer underfunding and\n%understaffing (as compared to Jewish schools); Palestinian\n%children are denied the right to learn their history and\n%literature; Israelis who struggle for equal rights and for the end\n%of racial discrimination, suffer continuous harassment by the\n%authorities.\n\n1.  There are some kibbutzim with Arab\/Non-Jewish members.\n    It is up to the members of the kibbutz.  There is no\n    legislation against it, nor against a purely non-Jewish\n    collective.\n\n2.  Funds are the result of political lobbying.  Bearing in mind\n    that non_Jews compose ~20% of the voting population, it has\n    never failed to amaze me that they fail to form one large\n    bloc, and increase their power.  The recent elections are a case \n    in point.\n\n3.  Please provide factual evidence supporting your allegation\n    with regard to educational material.  You have obviously\n    never seen the curriculum of a school in the West Bank.\n    It is based upon Jordan's school system.\n\n4.  With regard to your last statement, it is simply another\n    gross generalization.  \n\n%The State of Israel refuses to acknowledge itself as the State of\n%all its inhabitants.  Although the Israeli Cabinet has never\n%openly endorsed the 'transfer' idea (the forced removal from the\n%country of its native Palestinian population, that is, its\n%ultimate Judaization), Israeli government policies towards\n%non-Jews bear the mark of this 'Final Solution'. No attempt is\n%made by the Zionist authorities to integrate Palestinian Arabs\n%into Israeli public life. Thus, although comprising approximately\n%17% of the population of Israeli citizens, no Palestinian citizen\n%of Israel has ever served as Cabinet member, as director of \n%ministry or of a national institution, as judge of the Supreme\n%Court, as ambassador of Israel, or in any leading position in\n%Israeli economic or financial life. Even the director of the\n%Ministry for Arab Affairs - yes, such a thing exists! - is a Jew.\n\nAnother generalization, but lets not stop here.\nThe transfer idea was espoused by one party in the last gov't,\nMoledet.  It was intended to be a solution to the problem in the\nterritories, not the country itself.  With regard to other items,\nI recall at least one Arab ambassador, and the rest was covered\npreviously.\n\n%Although sexual\n%relations between and cohabitation of Jews and non-Jews are legal,\n%they are considered by Israeli\/Zionist society somewhat a betrayal\n%of the Jewish and Zionist ethics. The Israeli educational system\n%nurtures this attitude in a systematic way.\n\nWhen was the last time you were in Israel?  That is simply not true,\nnor has it been for quite some time.  The question of religious\nintervention is best answered by the proportional representation and\nthe lack of any Arab party bloc to counter the orthodox one.\n\n%Zionism rejects the idea of a modern secular state, based on\n%equality of all citizens. This is one main reason why Israel has\n%not produced any written Constitution. \n\nSimply incorrect.\nThe answer is political.  Once again, your failure to understand the\ndynamics and movements inside Israeli gov't, relegates your\ncontentions to the sidelines.\n\n%Zionism predicates a state\n%where Jews have privileged rights. Thus, according to Israeli law,\n%a Jew born in London, who has never visited Israel, does not speak\n%Hebrew and professes atheism, is granted automatic Israeli\n%citizenship, while native Palestinian inhabitants who happen to be\n%Christian or Muslim, are treated almost as aliens.  Racial\n%discrimination, as defined in international law, is thus not only\n%reflected in Israeli laws and policies, but is grounded in the\n%very nature of Israel as a Jewish state.\n\nBut the discrimination is not based upon race.\nOops, sorry, nasty habit I have of countering malicious false truths.\n\n%Any proposal for Israeli-Arab and Israeli-Palestinian peace that\n%does not address the issue of racial discrimination by Israel -\n%that is the Zionist nature of the State of Israel - is thus doomed\n%to fail.\n\nReal world intrusion - any proposal that does is doomed to fail.\nOf course, I wouldn't expect you to understand, wrapped up as\nyou are in your VIEW of things.  Let's not let anything penetrate\nshall we!?!  I may be a bit too sarcastic but there is a limit to the\namount of patience I have for rubbish at 02:00.\n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nHis performance at the plate may well be from the shoulder injury\nreceived when he ran into the wall making a catch in the Cincy series.\nIt may also be him pressing a little.\n\nAs for the baserunning, it does not appear to be just Lankford.\nDent made the bad call sending Lankford in the Sunday night game\nagainst Cincy - but everyone had a bad time against the Dodger's catcher.\n\n\nGood question.  At least it doesn't appear that we are seeing the\nsame Zeile :-)\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I am just wondering whether the official MLB stats includes \nIntentional Walks in the BB category or not?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nI don't think so.  The assumption is there.  If it turns out that\ntheir software has a virus, then it is up to you to prove that fact\nto a court to get any damages.  You are theoretically suppossed to \nbe able to get damages for that, but you have to give some evidence\nthat the virus came from that software.  But since the computer\ncompany is the defendent, they are uninvolved until proven guilty.\n\nPlease, not Pascal!  NOOOOO!! ;)\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"We are looking for GL source code, which was developed by Silicon Graphics (SGI).\nWe would like to compile it on Sun and HP 9000\/700s. If there is anyone already\nsupporting GL on HP and Sun, please respond.\nAlso please respond if anyone knows where the source code is available.\n\n\nThank you","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nYes, unless the observer is at rest with respect to the singularity at\ninfinite distance away. But an observer on a close approach to the BH will\nsee the particle go in in finite time.\n\nPeter","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThis is factually incorrect. There was at least one message that said that\nWaco and Clipper justified \"anything\" in response.\n\nDavid","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Though I downloaded some of the posted bitmaps myself, the original\nposter is quite right...\nAs an alternative, try posting them at comp.binaries.ms-windows, and\njust letting us know.  A good idea is to post the article number here.\n\npeace,\nMicke","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nWell, yes and no.  The _image_ can't be on the screen less than 1\/30\nof a second, but a _mixture_ of images that's about 90% of the field\nthat was supposed to be there and 10% of the 'subliminal' addition\ncould be overlaid for one field, producing the same overall effect to\nour sluggish retinae of a discrete image projected for 1\/300 second.\n\n..although, like the previous poster, I have to reserve my doubts\nabout the effectiveness of said discrete image in steering my\nsubconscious around ..\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"folks,\n\ni am going to be purchasing a new vehicle in the next few months.  i\nam trying to hold out until the fall since i have heard that i can\nbe in a better negotiating position to purchase a '93 right when the\n'94s are coming out.  i need something that can comfortably carry\n2 adults, 2 kids in car seats, and 2 60-pound dogs.  i can probably\nafford something in the 14k-16k range.  i am interested in the SUV's\nbut am not sure there are any that are decent which i can afford.\ni think the ford explorer got good reviews from consumer reports but\nis above my $$$ range.  the isuzu rodeo is probably in my price range\nbut i think consumer reports gave it a big thumbs down.  can anyone\noffer any suggestions?  i am hoping for something a little more hip\nthan the traditional wagon, and the SUVs look like fun (we do a lot of\ncamping too).","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nAlan> 2.  We can also analyze to whom the Lord is addressing: \"Marvel\nAlan> not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again\" (John 3:7).\nAlan> Here Jesus is clearly directing his remarks to Nicodemus -- a\nAlan> ruler of the Jews (not a child).\n\nYes, but Jesus also made a very general and doctrinal statement\nin the same conversation:\n\n\"Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.\"\n(John 3:6)\n\nClearly infants are not born of the spirit.  Thus, without baptism\nthey are unspiritual.  They are not born with the image of God, but in\nAdam's fallen image (cf. Gen 5:3).  They have no righteousness of\ntheir own, just as adults have no righteousness of their own.  There\nis only the imputed righteousness of Christ, which believers receive\nthrough faith.\n\nAlan> 3.  We can ask ourselves why the Lord would even introduce the\nAlan> concept of spiritual re-birth through baptism if newborn babies\nAlan> weren't free from sin?\n\nYour point is a little obscure here, but I think you are saying\nthat Christ used the \"innocence\" of newborn babes as a metaphor\nfor spiritual re-birth.  But this is not what he did.\nIf you look at the text, he did not speak\nof spiritual re-birth but of spiritual birth.  We are\nborn of the Spirit once, not twice or several times.\nWe are also born of the flesh once.  The Lord makes it\nclear that these are separate and different events.\nIt is true that other Scriptures refer to spiritual\nbirth as re-birth because it is a second birth\n(for example, Titus 3:5).  But it is not a second\n*spiritual* birth.\n\nThe only thing the two births have in common is the concept of birth,\nwhich is used as a symbol of `new life' -- not of innocence.  When an\ninfant is born (or conceived) a new life is begun--but it is neither\ninnocent nor righteous.  Similarly when that same individual is\nbaptized, or perhaps when they believe prior to baptism, they begin a\nnew life in Christ (Romans 6:3, Colossians 2:12, Titus 3:5, Ephesians\n2:5).  Then the believer has God's assurance of the forgiveness of\ntheir sins, and of Christ's imputed righteousness.\n\nFor references, see \n\tThe Augsburg Confession Article II, Original Sin, \n\tThe Apology to the Augsburg Confession, \n\t\tArticle II, Original Sin, \n\tthe Formula of Concord, Article I, Original Sin, and \n\tLuther's Large Catechism, Part 4, Baptism.  \n\nFor something more recent, see \"Baptized into God's Family: The\nDoctrine of Infant Baptism\" by Andrew Das, available from Northwestern\nPublishing House.  Andrew is a graduate of Concordia Lutheran\nSeminary, St. Louis, and is now pursuing doctoral studies at Yale\nDivinity School.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nThat is, if the special software is free, like Xfree86.  There are\nvendors that sells Diamond X drivers for commercial Unices.  But\nthen, they charge $$$$.\n\n\nI think they only need a signing (i.e. no paying).  This still\nviolates the FSF's policy of publically available code.\n\n\nWhile this is true, there are fixes for those who have already\nbought Diamond cards.  In Linux, for example, there are utilities\nthat will put the card in VESA mode before invoking X.  Of course,\nthis means no fine tuning of Diamond cards, but at least this\nwill allow those who're stuck with them to use Linux+X.\n\nI agree with Mark's suggestion:  If you are buying a video card\nfor specialized free software, avoid Diamond.  But if you already\nhave one, there may be a fix that can help you.\n\nJames.\n\n-- \njjctc@chevron.com                    |   The shortest distance between\njtsiao@netcom.com                    |   two puns is a straight line.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"A local dealer is offering Mac II vi machines equipped with Kodak multi-\nsession compatible CD-ROM drives for what seems like an attractive price:\n$1500. I've used many other models up to a II ci, but this would be the\nfirst I could have my own Mac. Is it safe to buy an about-to-be discontinued\nmodel such as this. I'd like to yank the CD-ROM drive out, put it in a\nhousing and share it with my PC. Is this feasible? The only info I have on\nthe II vi is that it is relatively slow (16MHz), has an 68030 chip with a\nmath coprocessor. I want to add a non-Apple portrait monitor and use this\nmachine for HyperCard stack design. Is this a good buy, or would I be\nwasting my money? I would appreciate some advice. Thanks!\n\nRobert Matthews\nGRFG128@TWNMOE10.BITNET.EDU.TW","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\tDo you have a problem with the language? I said\neveryone suffered emotionally because they sympathyzed with the\nvictims of Holocaust. I wasn't implying that anyone suffered\nmore than the actual victims. Neither was I implying any\nwrongdoing on the part of the Jews as the cause for the\nHolocaust. What is wrong with you guys? Regardless of what one \nsays you keep hearing what you want to hear. \n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I want to thank all the people that responded to my post\na few weeks ago about buying an '86 Chev Nova with over\n100,000 mi.\n\nI decided to buy the car and have had it for about a month.\nI replaced the front brake pads and changed the oil.  So far\nno problems have surfaced.\n\nI received many suggestions and encouragement on this\npurchase and figured a late \"thank you\" was better than none.\n\nThanks to all!","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Three Bedrooms, One Updated Bath\n\nProfessionally Lanscaped Front Yard w\/ Sprinklers\n\nUtilities in Attached One Car Garage\n\nRecently Painted Inside\n\nConvenient Commute Location\n\nSchools: Whisman Elementary, Crittenden Jr. High, Mountain View High\n\n$209,900","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I currently have some grayscale image files that are not in any\nstandard format.  They simply contain the 8-bit pixel values.  I would\nlike to display these images on a PC.  The conversion to a GIF format\nwould be helpful.  This conversion can take place either on a PC\nor on a UNIX system and I could then download it to the PC.\nCan anyone suggest where I can find software to do this?  Alternatively, I\nmay have to write my own conversion program.  In this case, could someone\ntell me where I can find the GIF format specification?\n\nPlease e-mail me directly at: shayla@shannon.jpl.nasa.gov","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nApparently you are unfamiliar with the history of the FBI. You might\ntry looking up articles from the 70's on the FBI's Cointelpro\noperation for starters.\n-- \nDave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\t* The news statement was that there was $200,000 worth of \"firearms\n\t  and ammunition (no mention of \"assault weapons\")\" on the premises,\n\t  not that Koresh had purchased them (what would his crime be if he\n\t  had?).  This averages to about $2000 per person, not an astronomical\n\t  number.\n\n\t* We don't know that there is a thigh-deep pile of a million rounds...\n\t  we know that the FBI SAYS there is a pile of a million rounds. ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Hi-\nDo any of you hardware gurus out there know what kind of memory architecture  \nApple uses in the powerbook Duos?  Or in the powerbook in general?\n\nWhat are the factors that make the Duo 210 so slow compared to a desktop  \nmachine running the same processor at the same speed (25MHz 68030)?  How many  \nwait states are in the memory system, etc?  What kind of a data bus does it  \nuse?  32-bit or 16-bit?  \n\nIt's still slow when plugged into a DuoDock.\n\nAnyone know in general what kind of shortcuts notebook manufacturers take when  \nmaking notebooks?  I heard of a 486DX2\/66 notebook getting a \"whopping\" 10  \nMIPS rating.  A similar desktop machine should be getting about 3 times that,  \nI guess.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"FOR SALE:\n\n\t1 ST4766E Seagate ESDI drive.  760 meg\t\t$500\n\t  unformatted.  Without controller.  A\n\t  friend has tested this on his controller\n\t  and says that it works.  As is.\n\n\n\t2 meg 256kx4 70ns DRAM.\t\t\t\t$ 3 each or $48\n\n\n\nPlease call (908) 219-5935 or email.\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nSo far, the medical examiner (according to the news) has found NO EVIDENCE\nof gunshot wounds in bodies so far examined.  If this continues to be\nthe case, it will sort of shoot holes (pun intended) in the FBI story,\nwouldn't it?  And cartridges going off outside a firearm do not launch\na bullet like they do when fired from a gun.  The bullet hardly moves,\nit is the brass casing that goes flying, and then with less than lethal\nforce.  It will hurt, yes, but not KILL you - I doubt if it wil penetrate\na coat, for example.\n\nHow about an INDEPENDENT investigation, with full subpoena powers, and\npowers to prosecute on felony charges, to investigate for any possible\nillegal\/criminal activity on the part of both the BATF and FBI?  I\ncannot see any reason why not - to use the phrase they like to use\nso often, \"if they have nothing to hide...\" they should welcome it,\nand vigorously support it.  Note that an internal investigation by the\nDept of Justice is NOT an independent investigation...\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\nWe are looking for a graphics package (preferably complete\nwith source code) that will run on our UNIX operating system\n(a Sequent running DYNIX 3.2).  This graphics package must \nsupport a wide variety of character based graphics devices \n(PC's running a terminal emulator, primarily).  \nAt this point, X11 graphics is not an option.\n\nThis graphics program should, if possible, support these\nsorts of graphics operations (minimum requirements):\n\n   1) Complicated axes (log, linear, etc.) with fairly\n      precise axis labels (multi-line labels, etc.)\n      Major and minor tickmarks on axes, etc.\t\n  \n   2) It would be nice if some limited amount of color\n      plotting were available, if the output device\n      supported it.\n\nWe have a copy of gnuplot and are currently using it, but\ngnuplot has some limitations.  We are looking for something\nmore robust than gnuplot.\n\nAt this point, I'm looking for information about packages that\nmight solve our problems.  If you have any information, please\ncontact me at the above email address.  If the product you know\nabout is a commercial software package, please send a phone number\nor email address so that I can contact them about pricing, etc.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"  ...\n\n        There's a better way. Doesn't Qualcom have a secure design\n        that it decided not to market?  Since they aren't going to\n        use it, wouldn't the patriotic thing be to put the design in\n        the public domain? How about selling a \"Cryptography\n        Educational Kit\" with the critical parts? Something that could\n        end up as a PC option board with two phone jacks?\n\n        Cheers,\n                Marc\n\n---\n Marc Thibault                             | marc@tanda.isis.org\n Automation Architect                      | CIS:71441,2226\n R.R.1, Oxford Mills, Ontario, Canada      | NC FreeNet: aa185","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\"Let's make a deal!\"  If you're going to put up a billion, I'd want to budget\nthe whole sheebang for $450-600 million.  If I have that much money to throw\naround in the first place, you betcha I'm going to sign a contract committing\nto volume production...\n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Honda Accord_4_Cyl. LX Hatchback  3D   5 Speed   '82    126,000 Miles\n\n        with :  AM\/FM Stereo Cassette\n\n                Clutch          '89\n                Alternator      '90\n                Battery         '93\n                Carburator      '93 Rebuilt\n\n        Registration expires    FEB '94\n\n\n        Asking price            : $ 2150.00\n\n\n        Please call 408-366-3570 (Fulvio)","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Sun SPARKstation  laptop Workstation for $2500 or best offer.\n\n- 16M RAM expandable to 48M\n- 200M hard drive \n- 3.5\" floppy drive\n- OS 4.1.\n- Open windows 3\n- LCD display\n- scsi -2\n- mouse\n- AC adaptor, manuals, carring case.\n\n\n  Posted for a friend. Please contact him directly.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n  I really think that this is the key point.  When I saw the incident on\nBaseball Tonight Sunday, I couldn't believe how far away from the plate\nGant went.  Then he casually leaned against his bat.  I don't blame the \numpire at all for telling the pitcher to pitch.\n\n  The worst part of the whole incident was the Braves coming out onto the\nfield.  What were they going to do, attack the umpire?  The only people\nwho should've been out there were Cox and maybe the coaches, but NO players.\nI agree with the person who posted before that Cox should be suspended for\nhaving no control over his team.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"A friend is heavily into MIDI and is using a Quadra 900 (maybe 950) with \nall but one NuBus slot populated with arcane music hardware and a video\ncard.  He reports 8 bit video is too slow for good real-time display of\nwhat he needs to see.  He also reports that the built-in video is even\nworse.  He's not a Mac guru, and I haven't seen the system, so this is\nabout all I know.\n\nI suspect that his NuBus is heavily loaded, and think improvements might\ncome from a switch to an accelerated PDS slot video card.  Does this\nsound right?  Who makes a PDS accelerated video card for the Quadra thats\nworth looking at?  Any other suggestions?  Thanks in advance!","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nWell, yeah, but unlike TIFF they all do substantially more than encode\nrectangular bitmaps.  And the others are hardly trouble free.  I hear that\nit is quite common for CGM implementations not to interoperate.\n\nThe annoying thing about TIFF is that is that along with the 50 useful\noptions, there are 100 stupid options.  The most egregious example is that\nrather than picking a byte order and bit order and using it consistently\nin all TIFF files, byte and bit order are options and all TIFF readers on\nall machines, no matter what their natural byte order, have to be prepared\nto do byte swapping.  There are four slightly different FAX formats --\nagain, any one of them would have been adequate.  RGB images can be stored\nby pixel or by component, complexity without function, etc, etc.  I also\nnote that the TIFF doc says that Aldus' experiments show that LZW reliably\ncompresses as well or better than any of the FAX formats, suggesting that\nnone of the FAX formats are really useful.\n\nWhat's worse, a lot of the formats aren't even implemented very well,\ne.g., LZW limits code words to 12 bits, while 14 or 16 bits would have\nprovided substantially better compression.  And the LZW method compresses\nbytes rather than pixels.\n\nBut the absolute worst thing about TIFF is that any vendor can register\nproprietary TIFF codes and formats without even publicly documenting them.\nThis means that there is NO WAY to write a TIFF reader that can reliably\nread all incoming TIFF files.  Some standard.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nThe Delorean used the Peugot\/Renault\/Volvo V6 in a rear engine configuration.\nThe Bricklin use some 'Merkin iron in a front engine\/rear drive configuration.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"This is my first time on the network, but I am very concerned with this\nincident in Waco.  I will refrain from stating my opinions until after I have\nread the FAQ.  Could someone tell me how to get this?  I must say that I\nbelieve the Govt. was wrong in the actions that they took in this situation.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I didn't think the bi-stem design was used so much for the retrieval as\nfor the ability to launch in a tight (size) STS envelope.  This is my own \nguess, based on similar designs flown on other large STS-launched s\/c \n(GRO, UARS).  Also, there _might_ be some consideration given to mass \nrequirements (bi-stems weight less than conventional S\/A).  Finally, \nthe HST arrays _do_ have the ability to be detached--remember, they're \ngoing to be replaced with new arrays.\n\nHowever, as an ACS guy who's seen his branch management pull their\ncollective hair out over HST, I would voice a hearty 'yea' to using\nconventional arrays over bi-stems, whenever possible.  No half hertz\nflexible modes, no thermal snap, no problem.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I'm trying to make a 24 bit window using XCreateWindow on a 8 bit\nPseudoColor server. As far as I know this should be possible if you\nserver supports a TrueColor or DirectColor visual. I'm using a\nSun IPC with a RasterFLEX card.\n\nRunning xdpyinfo gives:\n...\nscreen #0:\n  dimensions:    1152x900 pixels (352x275 millimeters)\n  resolution:    83x83 dots per inch\n  depths (4):    1, 5, 8, 24\n  root window id:    0x80083\n  depth of root window:    8 planes\n  number of colormaps:    minimum 1, maximum 6\n  default colormap:    0x80080\n...\n  number of visuals:    8\n  default visual id:  0x80079\n...\n  visual:\n    visual id:    0x80079\n    class:    PseudoColor\n    depth:    8 planes\n    size of colormap:    256 entries\n    red, green, blue masks:    0x0, 0x0, 0x0\n    significant bits in color specification:    8 bits\n  visual:\n    visual id:    0x8007a\n    class:    TrueColor\n    depth:    24 planes\n    size of colormap:    256 entries\n    red, green, blue masks:    0xff, 0xff00, 0xff0000\n    significant bits in color specification:    8 bits\n  visual:\n    visual id:    0x8007b\n    class:    DirectColor\n    depth:    24 planes\n    size of colormap:    256 entries\n    red, green, blue masks:    0xff, 0xff00, 0xff0000\n    significant bits in color specification:    8 bits\n\n\nMy code looks like this:\n\nif ((Xio.DspPtr = XOpenDisplay(NULL)) == NULL)\n    logexit(1, \"Cannot connect to X server %s\", XDisplayName(NULL));\n\nXio.Scr = DefaultScreen(Xio.DspPtr);   \/* use this screen                 *\/\n\nif (XMatchVisualInfo(Xio.DspPtr, Xio.Scr, 24,\n\t\t     DirectColor, &Xtern.ColorInfo))\n{\n   memset(&SetWinAttrib, 0, sizeof(XSetWindowAttributes));\n   Xio.GSwin = XCreateWindow(Xio.DspPtr, RootWindow(Xio.DspPtr, Xio.Scr),\n\t\t\t     x, y, w, h, 0, 24, InputOutput,\n\t\t\t     Xtern.ColorInfo, 0, &SetWinAttrib);\n}\n\n\nThis results in a BadMatch error. Can anyone please tell me why ?\n\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Hello - I am in need of a file viewer for 24 bit TIFF images, to run under\n        windows (3.1 if it matters); alternatively a package to run an\n        X-server on top of windows would do very well. Unfortunately the\n        budget for this is limited so whatever I end up using has to be\n        public domain or very inexpensive. Thanks in advance for any help,\n\n        john\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Q. Should teenagers have the freedom to choose what church they go to?\n\nMy friends teenage kids do not like to go to church.\nIf left up to them they would sleep, but that's not an option.\nThey complain that they have no friends that go there, yet don't\nattempt to make friends. They mention not respecting their Sunday\nschool teacher, and usually find a way to miss Sunday school but\ndo make it to the church service, (after their parents are thoroughly\ndisgusted) I might add. A never ending battle? It can just ruin your\nwhole day if you let it.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nYou need to use your shoulder muscles to push the mower. If you haven't been\ndoing much exercise, as I suppose you haven't, then a constant 20 minute\nlong effort can cause stiffness and cramps.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I am DESPERATELY trying to find a PC based e-mail wide area network service\nor the necessary network software to establish one myself. While I am aware\nthere are various BBS's and other similar services avalible (like Compuserve,\nCanada Remote Systems etc.) I require fairly specific criteria. In \napproximate order of importance they are:\n\n1) The mail\/files\/news are read\/written locally and batched to the network\n   server. (ie. no continuous on-line connection)(NOTE: all users are remote\n   and will use modems over conventional phone lines.)\n\n2) Simple. The users I have for the system have very little computer knowledge\n   have never heard of Unix, and have very little interest in learning. It is\n   essential that the client software is completely pain-free.\n\n3) Cheap. We would prefer not paying high connect fees to an established\n   commercial network, just so we can send large files between members of the\n   group - hence (1). In addition I would like the network server to be\n   something small, simple and inexpensive like a 486. (There are only about\n   40 people in the group, so it is not a huge network.)\n\n4) The capability for Internet access (for news\/mail).\n\n5) Internet style id's (eg. pwood@math.uwaterloo.ca)\n\n\n   If anyone knows of a system similar to what I am describing, even if it\ndoesn't sastisfy all my criteria, and I don't care where it is, PLEASE PLEASE\ne-mail me and tell me about it. We are not adverse to making alterations to\nan existing system if necessary.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nOuch, this is a good question. To me, not existing is worse\nthan existing no matter what, so I will modify this question to be:\nwould I be a Christian if it made no eternal difference in my\nreward or punishment? I hope this is in the same spirit you want.\n\nI personally am very goal oriented. It is hard for me to do things\nthat do not achieve some goal. However, to relate this to sports, \nonly after I learned to not care about the score did I become\na good basketball player. I had to learn to go all out no matter\nthe situation. Perhaps this lesson is relevent. After all,\nonly if I can give up my life can I keep it, only if I am\nhumble can I achieve glory. Only if I concentrate on living\nmy life now the best I can will I be afforded life eternal.\nI think you have illuminated the true meaning of \"saved by faith.\"\n\nBut what is my answer? Right now I would remain a Christian.\nHowever, was that always my answer? That's the problem. Heaven\nand hell are good motivators at certain stages of maturity.\nAnd I admit there are certain times when perhaps I bite my\ntongue and put up with something in the hope of a better day,\ni.e. I mentally trade present happiness for future happiness.\nI hope the cynics and skeptics do not read more into that\nthan appropriate, but I am trying to be honest.\n\n\nI think these kinds of questions are extremely fruitful. I guess it\ndepends on how one views knowledge and learning. By stripping\nideas to simple, straightforward, opposing concepts we can\ndetermine levels of importance. By analyzing the theoretically \nabsurd we can gain a better understanding of the actually absurd.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Excerpts from netnews.talk.politics.guns: 21-Apr-93 The Dayton Gun \"Buy\nBack\" (.. by Larry Cipriani@cbnews.cb \n\nPro-gun people can take used pot-metal guns with sale values LESS THAN\n$50.00 and turn them in, thus making a profit at the gun-grabbers\nexpense.\n\n-Seth\n\n__________________________________________________________________________\n[unlike cats] dogs NEVER scratch you when you wash them. They just\nbecome very sad and try to figure out what they did wrong. -Dave Barry","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Has anyone else gotten a system error when trying to print from Mathematica 2.1\nto the HP Deskwriter. I'm using a PB170 with:\t8 megs ram\n\t\t\t\t\t\tSys 7.0.1 + Tuneup\n\t\t\t\t\t\tHP Print Drivers etc....\n\nIt works find on an Imagewriter I. I'd like to get as much information as\npossible before I send a bug report to Wolfram.\n\nThanks.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n   This does not propose a _mechanism_ for GRBs in the Oort (and, no,\n   anti-matter annihilation does not fit the spectra at least as far\n   as I understand annihilation spectra...). Big difference.\n   That's ignoring the question of how you fit a distribution\n   to the Oort distribution when the Oort distribution is not well\n   known - in particular comet aphelia (which are not well known)\n   are not a good measure of the Oort cloud distribution...\n\nMerging neutron stars is at least a mechanism with about the right\nenergy, except it doesn't explain why there is no apparent correlation\nwith galaxies or galaxy structure, there is no mechanism for getting\nall the energy out in gamma rays (with any significant amount of\nbaryons around there will be a lot of pair production, which makes a\nplasma, which thermalizes the energy), it has trouble generating\nenough energy to explain the most powerful bursts (10^52-53 ergs), it\nhappens too fast compared to the burst duration, and it is hard to\nmake tight-binaries of neutron stars.\n\nAnother cosmological mechinism is the catalytic conversion of a\nneutron star to a strange star or the merger of two strange stars, but\nthat uses pretty far-out physics.\n\nMy point is that we don't have a good mechanism at any distance, so\nGRB's are likely to be happening by an unknown mechanism, so we can't\nrule out the Oort cloud.  What would be the spectrum of an event which\nconverts a comet to strange matter?  The spectra for primordial black\nholes eating comets and antimatter comets colliding with matter comets\naren't quite right, but perhaps there is an unusual mechanism which\nmodifies the spectrum.  The energy matches very well for both of these\nmechanisms.  According to Trevor Weeks, if the \"Tunguska Meteorite\"\nwas a mini-black hole collision with the earth, then there are likely\nto be enough mini-black holes around that the rate for BH-comet\ncollisions matches the GRB rate well.\n\nThe fact that we don't know the distribution of comets in the Oort\ncloud isn't a reason to rule them out; it makes it harder to rule them\nout.  The point of the cited paper was that if we assume they got the\nright distribution for the Oort cloud, it is hard but not impossible\nto match that up with the distribution of GRB's.  If they got the\nwrong distribution for the Oort cloud, they can't constrain any Oort-\ncloud GRB's at all.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
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{"text":"Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball\n\n\n\n\nHarry talks about this \"incident\" in his autobiography \"Holy Cow.\"  \nUnfortunately, I can not clarify on this since (1) I read the book a couple\nof years ago and (2) I do not have my book with me.  \n\nAnyway, It is a pretty interesting book if you are a Harry or Cubs fan.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"[ in response to a question about why Jesus' parents would be sanctified \nbeyond normal humanity]\n\nI would think that simply being pregnant with the incarnation of the \nAlmighty God would be enough to make Mary blessed among all women, whether\nor not she had special spiritual attributes.  I find that the more special\nMary needs to be, the less human Jesus gets.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"From article <May.14.02.11.36.1993.25219@athos.rutgers.edu>, by tas@pegasus.com (Len Howard):\n\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nNo.  I see many of the same groups protesting both.  I also know people\nwho feel exactly the opposite (i.e., treat citizens better than Saddam).\n\n\nHey!  Sect changes are still illegal in Texas!\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nBill, ever heard of secular humanism? Please check out what\nthis stands for, and then revise your statements above.\n\nCheers,\nKent\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I read somewhere that Kurt Goedel argued that the ontological argument\nfor God's existence was logically reasonable (or something to that\neffect).\n\nDoes anyone know if this is true, and have a citation?\n\nThanks.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"day.\n\n\nRecently, I completed a 2 week juice fast (with 3 days of water) and had\ntwo colonics as part of it.  My motivation was primarily spiritual, to\nde-toxify from all the crap I've been putting in my body (not like thats\nenough to clean it all out but it did have an effect).  Personaly, I\ndidn't find it an uncomfortable experience (the colonic), lost about\n15lbs of beer belly (which hasn't come back over the last month), and\nfeel great.  One of the things that prompted me to get the colonic was\nseeing my 90 year old grandmother chair ridden from colitis (?) from\nyears of indulgence.\n\nNot everything that goes in comes out, and personaly I don't mind giving\nmy body a hand once in a while.\n\nJust my experience,\n\nGeorge Paap","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\tIf you have something reasoned and intelligent to say then you should\npost. If all you can do is rant and rave- save it.\n\n\tTrue conservatism is cutting spending and taxes. It's a matter of\ndebate just how succesful the last few presidents have been at that.\n\n\tI hear it again and again, and I've noticed far more often from \nliberals than anyone else- \"if you don't agree with me you are close-minded\"\n\tLook who's talking. I suggest you take a look at your post. I see\nnothing but unfair and unsubstantiated generalizations. It suggests that the\nauthor is anything but open-minded.\n\tNext time you feel like posting something like this- save it for \nsomebody who cares.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"A >  From some of the replies to my original posting, it's evident that some\nA >  people do not secrete enough mucous to keep their nose lining protected\n            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^            \n Include small amounts of hot, spicy foods with your meals. It's\n not a cure, but many people find it helpful to create extra mucus.\n You may also consider taking a few drops of iodine in juice or water \n (consult your doctor first!), which is available OTC in Canada.\n If you have a sedentary lifestyle, exercising sometimes helps.\n\nA >  from environmental influences (ie, dry air). But I've had no responses\nA >  from anyone with experience with Rutin. Is there another newsgroup that\n                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\nA >  might have specifics on herbal remedies?\nA > \nA >  Robert Allison\n\n I tried to e-mail you, but our board is having internet problems,\n so I'm not sure whether you got the information on rutin or not.\n \n Rutin is NOT a herb, but part of the bioflavonoid complex. You should\n generally *not* take rutin by itself, but take the whole bioflavonoid \n complex instead. If you don't (and there are some exceptions to that)\n you'll eventually create a hesperidin deficiency, which is the other\n major component of the bioflavonoid complex.\n I found out the hard way years ago when I recommended rutin, after it\n showed deficient in patients who were NOT deficient in hesperidin be-\n fore. A later retest almost always showed a subsequent deficiency in \n hesperidin, which, from then on, made me always *add* bioflavonoids \n to anyone that had *very* low levels of rutin.\n Most of the time people are equally low in rutin *and* hesperidin, so\n there is really no reason to take rutin by itself, but use the whole\n bioflavonoid complex instead.\n\n I have several thousand patients taking them with many claiming that \n they had been helped with hemorrhoids, varicose veins, chronic nose \n bleeds, aneurysms, gastro-intestinal bleeding (due to drugs), etc...\n One patient in desperation took a whole bottle (100's) in one day\n for his painful, bleeding hemorrhoids, without any ill effects.\n  \n They are also non-toxic in very high amounts, that's why they can\n be safely recommended. If you are allergic to citrus fruit (they are\n made from their peels), pine bark sources are available as well.\n\n About 90% of patients tested show a bioflavonoid deficiency, \n with the average daily dosage needed being about 1 - 2,000mg.\n For major complaints, 4 - 6,000mg+\/day is common.\n \n In case they cannot be taken, because of their size and taste (they\n are big, and they don't taste that great), a product made from pine \n bark extract gives you the same effect and the tablets are quite\n small and taste much better, however the cost is about seven times\n higher for the equivalent effect. One 25mg tablet of the pine bark\n extract gives you about the same effect as 1,000mg of bioflavonoids.\n The name for the pine bark product is 'Pycnogenol.'\n  \n   Some Canadian brands carrying bioflavonoids are:\n \n   Quest.............1,000mg   big, bitter, not chewable\n   Swiss Herbal........600mg   smooth, easier swallowing \n   Jamieson............500mg   medium, bitter, chewable \n\n   SISU.................25mg   (Pycnogenol) small, easy swallowing\n \n   Give them a try and see what happens.....and good luck!\n\n   -- Ron Roth --\n =====================================================================\n --  Internet: rn.3228@rose.com  -  Rosenet: ron roth@rosehamilton  --\n\n *   \"Eating Radium has strange results,\"  Tom said brightly.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"And here's my two cents:\n\nThe best convertible for the money, IMO, is the Miata. Yes, it's small, but\nyou're buying it as a second car, I hope, so you don't need the cargo room\nof a big car. It's got enough power for fun, it's RWD like a sports car\nought to be (I'm gonna regret that :-{) and the top, while manual, operates\nlike a dream. 30 seconds and one hand to lower, and not much longer to raise.\n\nThe targa-type cars are nice, but they're not real convertibles.\n\n--","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\"Numerical Recipes in C\"..Fortran..Pascal  has a nice section on\nencryption and decryption based on the DES algorithm.  There is\nalso source code provided (I think some versions of this book are \ndistributed with the source code on disk; the source code can\nalso be ordered from the publisher).","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n >By the way, news.announce.newusers has an article (can't remember which\n >one) that recommends reading a newsgroup for 1 month before posting.  \n >This makes sense because you get an idea who the players are and what \n >the current discussions are about.\n\n >Am I the only one who followed that advice?\n\nNo, I spent a month just reading, too, mainly because I did not know\nmuch about the way atheists think. I even printed out the FAQs and\ndiscussed it with a friend before I started posting.\n\nAlt.atheism deals with religious issues (more appropriately, lack of\nreligious beliefs), which are by their very nature very controversial.\nIt makes sense to read what is being discussed and how just to make\nsure you are not repeating something others have said better.\n\nPetri\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Can anyone recommend a 3 button mouse that is compatible with MacX and Quadra?\nIf so, can the buttons be programed to say, cut, paste etc?\n\nCan anyone suggest a supplier?\n\nThe only 3 button mice I know exist are:\n\n\t1. Logitek\t$106.00 Aust (Injan ).\n\t2. Anorus\t$100.00 Aust (Mac direct).\nAre these ok for the above configuration?\n\nPlease reply me directly.\n\nregards\nChristopher Welsh\n\n--\nDeakin University          \t\t\tChris Welsh\nDepartment of Computing and Maths\t\tcris@aragorn.cm.deakin.oz.au","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Here's another question by a hesitant Powerbook purchaser.\nI want to be able to run Mathematica and would like to hear some comments  \nfrom the gallery about this. How much slower does the program run on a  \nmachine without an FPU (namely a PB160) versus a machine with an FPU  \n(namely a PB170).  What types of calculations get bogged down the most. I  \nprimarily due moderately simple algebra, integrals which can be dealt with  \nanalytically and plotting including 3-d plots. I don't do a lot of  \nnumerical work. Would a PB160 with a lot of memory ( and the very nice  \nvideo port ) be sufficient or should I really try to get an FPU for this  \ntype of work? Is a PB170 with 8Mb faster than a PB160 with 12 or 16Mb.\nAll comments appreciated. ","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":": \n:   .\n:            It's my understanding that the U.S. Supreme Court has never \n:        given a legal definition of religion.  This despite the many \n:        cases involving religion that have come before the Court. \n:            Can anyone verify or falsify this?  \n:            Has any state or other government tried to give a legal \n:        definition of religion? \n\nAccording to the legal practices of today's America, I imagine the legal\ndefinition of religion, if defined, may resemble the following:\n\n\t\"Any system of belief or practice to which people are committed\n\tfor the benefit of society which must, in the opinion of secular\n\tthought, be isolated from political and educational influence.\"\n\n\t\"Should any system of belief or practice to which people are\n\tcommitted be harmful or void of any benefit to society in the\n\topinion of religious thought as defined in the previous paragraph,\n\tisolation of such from political and educational influence would\n\tconstitute unreasonable censorship and an unlawful violation of\n\tcivil rights.\"","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"    Only if you are in the eastern time zone - pacific will get the \n    Kings vs Calgary \n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I am looking for GUI Builders\/UIMS's which run in a VMS\/OpenVMS\nenvironment. I am interested in both Motif tools and GUI-independent\ntools such as XVT. My client also requires that the tool has been\nin production for at least 6 months in the VMS environment. Note\nthat I have the list of tools from the FAQ, but not the info on\nVMS availability.\n\nThanks","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Hi!\n\nMy co-worker has just attached a magneto-optical drive to his mac.\nWorks Great for him.  However, he tried to turn on file sharing, but it\nwouldn't work.  Had some message about \"Not all volumes are shareable\"\n???\n\nSo - has anyone had success in sharing MOs?  If so, please tell me how!","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Another idea: Use a laptop computer.  As mentioned earlier, the LCD screen\nis a lot less noisy than a standard CRT, but since many laptops have power\nsupplies that run at 3 volts instead of 5, they would be considerably \nquieter.\n\nDoug Holland\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n-> Without the key, though, the steering column 'lock' would have to be\n-> sacrificed.\n\nNot necessarily. Maybe some  sort of servo lock or something along those\nlines could be used to acheive the same effect. Maybe a solenoid type of\nthing too.\n\nGeorge Howell","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Does anyone have a pair of Sega 3-d glasses they're willing\nto part with?  Or know of anywhere to acquire a pair, as they don't have \nthem around here!!!\n \n                        Thanks.\n \n \n  _________________________________________________\n  Inspiration  |   ___                             |\n  comes to     |  \\   o  baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca |\n  those who    | (  ^  ) baden@inqmind.bison.mb.ca |\n  seek the     |   \/-\\      =] Baden de Bari [=    |\n  unknown.     |                                   |","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n\nOr the price tag of the RX7 vs. a Mustang? Part of the definition of\na Mustang is that it should be affordable by the masses. Of course\nFord knows youre argument, THEY OWN A BIG PIECE OF MAZDA! Take a good\nlook at a Mach III, now an RX7, hhhmmmmm...\n\n\nThat is a tragedy, but I don't think new Camaros or the new Mustangs will.\n\n-Steve","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"We are researching what support there is on various platforms for applications\nto use multi-byte characters (e.g., Japanese Kanji).  We know that Unix\nand X Windows can contain support for the i18N standard (depending on level\nand platform).  What support for i18N or wide characters exists on the Mac, \nWindows 3.1 and Windows NT?\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nAnyone who thinks being gay and Christianity are not compatible should \ncheck out Dignity, Integrity, More Light Presbyterian churches, Affirmation,\nMCC churches, etc.  Meet some gay Christians, find out who they are, pray\nwith them, discuss scripture with them, and only *then* form your opinion.\n-- \n\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"The initiations ceremony for Knights ous is almost\nas secretive as that for the Mafia.\n\nWhat are the phases of initation and why the secretiveness?\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":" \n(Deletion)\n \nIt has. There is a guy running around in Switzerland who claims to have\nbeen conceived similarly. His mother says the same. His father is said to\nbe a bit surprised.\n \nBut anyway, there have been a lot of Messiahs, and many have had a similar\nstory about their birth. Or their death. A list of Messiahs could be quite\ninteresting.\n \n \n \nI would wonder why an omnipotent god pulls such stunts instead of providing\nevidence for everyone to check. And the whole question is absurd.\n \nWouldn't you feel bad if you'd find out that stones are sentient, and that\nyou have stepped on them all your life? And wouldn't you feel bad when you'd\nsee the proof that Jesus was just a plot of Satan?\n \n \n \nYou've forgotten the pride factor.\n \n \n \nThe argument is a fallacy. It is like \"thanks for reading this far\" on the end\nof a letter. Most religions claim that they won't fizzle because they contain\nsome eternal truth. So does Christianity. Since there are old religions it is\nno wonder to find old religions that have it that they would last.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Anyone have any recommendations\/warnings about the Texel 5024 CD-ROM drive\nor about any of its competitors? I'm looking for a CD-ROM drive for\nconnection to a PAS-16 SCSI port.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I have for sale a Hayes 2400 Personal Modem (External) for the Macintosh.\nReally nice small think. Plugs directly into a power plug ands has two\nlong cables, for to the phone and the other to your macintosh.  Get back\nto me if you are interested with an offer.  Thanks in advance.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nRob Niedermayer is a forward (center, I think) with the WHL Medicine Hat\nTigers.  His brother, Scott, is a defenseman (now with the NJ Devils).","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\tProof that the entire private sector is vastly more inefficient?\n\n\n\tBlue Cross is the government health insurance provider.\n\n\tOops.\n\n\t[Ads for Z magazine deleted to Save the Earth]","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\nDoes this mean they can either do alpha or stenciling, but not both\nsimultaneously?\n\n                                                                 ^^\n\nSame question again, does this mean they can either do double\nbuffering or stereo, but not both simultaneously?\n-- ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n  But maybe his wife was :-) \n\n  I don't claim to know whether it's true or not, but a couple different\npeople (totally unrelated) have said Harry was 'relieved' of his duties\nbecause he had more than platonic relations with Augie Busch's wife.\nJudgement is left to the individual, cuz I sure don't claim to be an\nimpeachable source in this case. \n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"The Space Calendar is updated monthly and the latest copy is available\nat ames.arc.nasa.gov in the \/pub\/SPACE\/FAQ.  Please send any updates or\ncorrections to Ron Baalke (baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov).  Note that launch\ndates are subject to change.\n\n     The following person made contributions to this month's calendar:\n\n        o Dennis Newkirk - Soyuz TM-18 Launch Date (Dec 1993).\n\n\n                          =========================\n                               SPACE CALENDAR\n                               April 27, 1993\n                          =========================\n\n* indicates change from last month's calendar\n\nApril 1993\n* Apr 29 - Astra 1C Ariane Launch\n\nMay 1993\n  May ?? - Advanced Photovoltaic Electronics Experiment (APEX) Pegasus Launch\n  May ?? - Radcal Scout Launch\n  May ?? - GPS\/PMQ Delta II Launch\n* May ?? - Commercial Experiment Transporter (COMET) Conestoga Launch\n* May 01 - Astronomy Day\n* May 01-2 - Iapetus\/Saturn Eclipse\n  May 04 - Galileo Enters Asteroid Belt Again\n  May 04 - Eta Aquarid Meteor Shower (Maximum: 21:00 UT, Solar Lon: 44.5 deg)\n* May 13 - Air Force Titan 4 Launch\n* May 18 - STS-57, Endeavour, European Retrievable Carrier (EURECA-1R)\n* May 20 - 15th Anniversary, Pioneer Venus Orbiter Launch\n  May 21 - Partial Solar Eclipse, Visible from North America & Northern Europe\n  May 25 - Magellan, Aerobraking Begins\n\nJune 1993\n  Jun ?? - Temisat Meteor 2 Launch\n  Jun ?? - UHF-2 Atlas Launch\n  Jun ?? - NOAA-I Atlas Launch\n  Jun ?? - First Test Flight of the Delta Clipper (DC-X), Unmanned\n  Jun ?? - Hispasat 1B & Insat 2B Ariane Launch\n  Jun 04 - Lunar Eclipse, Visible from North America\n  Jun 14 - Sakigake, 2nd Earth Flyby (Japan)\n  Jun 22 - 15th Anniversary of Charon Discovery (Pluto's Moon) by Christy\n  Jun 30 - STS-51, Discovery, Advanced Communications Technology Satellite\n\nJuly 1993\n  Jul ?? - MSTI-II Scout Launch\n  Jul ?? - Galaxy 4 Ariane Launch\n  Jul 01 - Soyuz Launch (Soviet)\n  Jul 08 - Soyuz Launch (Soviet)\n  Jul 14 - Soyuz TM-16 Landing (Soviet)\n* Jul 20-21 - Iapetus\/Saturn Eclipse\n  Jul 21 - Soyuz TM-17 Landing (Soviet)\n  Jul 28 - S. Delta Aquarid Meteor Shower (Maximum: 19:00 UT,\n           Solar Longitude 125.8 degrees)\n  Jul 29 - NASA's 35th Birthday\n\nAugust 1993\n  Aug ?? - ETS-VI (Engineering Test Satellite) H2 Launch (Japan)\n  Aug ?? - GEOS-J Launch\n  Aug ?? - Landsat 6 Launch\n  Aug ?? - ORBCOM FDM Pegasus Launch\n* Aug 08 - 15th Anniversary, Pioneer Venus 2 Launch (Atmospheric Probes)\n  Aug 09 - Mars Observer, 4th Trajectory Correction Maneuver (TCM-4)\n  Aug 12 - N. Delta Aquarids Meteor Shower (Maximum: 07:00 UT,\n           Solar Longitude 139.7 degrees)\n  Aug 12 - Perseid Meteor Shower (Maximum: 15:00 UT,\n           Solar Longitude 140.1 degrees)\n  Aug 24 - Mars Observer, Mars Orbit Insertion (MOI)\n  Aug 25 - STS-58, Columbia, Spacelab Life Sciences (SLS-2)\n  Aug 28 - Galileo, Asteroid Ida Flyby\n\nSeptember 1993\n  Sep ?? - SPOT-3 Ariane Launch\n  Sep ?? - Tubsat Launch\n  Sep ?? - Seastar Pegasus Launch\n\nOctober 1993\n  Oct ?? - Intelsat 7 F1 Ariane Launch\n  Oct ?? - SLV-1 Pegasus Launch\n  Oct ?? - Telstar 4 Atlas Launch\n  Oct 01 - SeaWIFS Launch\n  Oct 22 - Orionid Meteor Shower (Maximum: 00:00 UT, Solar Longitude\n           208.7 degrees)\n\nNovember 1993\n  Nov ?? - Solidaridad\/MOP-3 Ariane Launch\n  Nov 03 - 20th Anniversary, Mariner 10 Launch (Mercury & Venus Flyby Mission)\n  Nov 03 - S. Taurid Meteor Shower\n  Nov 04 - Galileo Exits Asteroid Belt\n  Nov 06 - Mercury Transits Across the Sun, Visible from Asia, Australia, and\n           the South Pacific\n* Nov 08 - Mars Observer, Mapping Orbit Established\n  Nov 10 - STS-60, Discovery, SPACEHAB-2\n  Nov 13 - Partial Solar Eclipse, Visible from Southern Hemisphere\n  Nov 15 - Wilhelm Herschel's 255th Birthday\n  Nov 17 - Leonids Meteor Shower (Maximum: 13:00 UT, Solar Longitude\n           235.3 degrees)\n* Nov 22 - Mars Observer, Mapping Begins\n  Nov 28-29 - Total Lunar Eclipse, Visible from North America & South America\n\nDecember 1993\n  Dec ?? - GOES-I Atlas Launch\n  Dec ?? - NATO 4B Delta Launch\n  Dec ?? - TOMS Pegasus Launch\n  Dec ?? - DirectTv 1 & Thiacom 1 Ariane Launch\n  Dec ?? - ISTP Wind Delta-2 Launch\n  Dec ?? - STEP-2 Pegasus Launch\n* Dec ?? - Soyuz TM-18 Launch (Soviet)\n  Dec 02 - STS-61, Endeavour, Hubble Space Telescope Repair\n  Dec 04 - SPEKTR-R Launch (Soviet)\n* Dec 05 - 20th Anniversary, Pioneer 10 Jupiter Flyby\n  Dec 08 - Mars Observer, Mars Equinox\n  Dec 14 - Geminids Meteor Shower (Maximum: 00:00 UT,\n           Solar Longitude 262.1 degrees)\n  Dec 20 - Mars Observer, Solar Conjunction Begins\n  Dec 23 - Ursids Meteor Shower (Maximum: 01:00 UT,\n           Solar Longitude 271.3 degrees)\n\nJanuary 1994\n  Jan 03 - Mars Observer, End of Solar Conjunction\n  Jan 24 - Clementine Titan IIG Launch (Lunar Orbiter, Asteroid Flyby Mission)\n\nFebruary 1994\n  Feb ?? - SFU Launch\n  Feb ?? - GMS-5 Launch\n  Feb 05 - 20th Anniversary, Mariner 10 Venus Flyby\n  Feb 08 - STS-62, Columbia, U.S. Microgravity Payload (USMP-2)\n  Feb 15 - Galileo's 430th Birthday\n  Feb 21 - Clementine, Lunar Orbit Insertion\n  Feb 25 - 25th Anniversary, Mariner 6 Launch (Mars Flyby Mission)\n\nMarch 1994\n  Mar ?? - TC-2C Launch\n  Mar 05 - 15th Anniversary, Voyager 1 Jupiter flyby\n  Mar 14 - Albert Einstein's 115th Birthday\n  Mar 27 - 25th Anniversary, Mariner 7 Launch (Mars Flyby Mission)\n  Mar 29 - 20th Anniversary, Mariner 10, 1st Mercury Flyby\n* Mar 31 - Galaxy 1R Delta 2 Launch","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nMaybe you should dig a little further Charles.  Hislop's scholarship was\naccepted by the Bristish Oriental Institute which, at the time, was the premere\nInstitute for Oriental studies.  As I've stated over and over,  I've checked\nout about 25% of his references (most are now out of print or in private\nlibraries) and the likes of Wilkerson and Layard hold their own merit.  THey\ntoo came to the same conclusions and if you will trouble yourself, you will\nfind that their knowledge of the mysteries have yet to be surpassed.  Both were\nhighly honored by the British Oriental Museum.  Wilkerson is known as one of\nthe leading archeologist in the history of Egyptiology and Layard is still\nbeing refered two after 200 yrs of archeology in the Mesopotamian regions.  He\nwas recently refered to in a TIME article on Babylonian archeology.  \n\nPhony scholarship is when you review their references and find that they have\nmisquoted or misrepresented the conclusions.  Hislop did not.  His conclusions\ndo not tickle the ears, that much is self evident.  But to assert that his\nconclusions are \"spurious\" is without merit.  He gave references to all his\nconclusions and as I have stated, for the last 25 years I have used his\nconclusions in debates at RC seminaries and brotherhoods, not to mention the\nindividual priests and bishops that I have talked to one on one.  No counter to\nHislops scholarship was made.  The only rebuttals were against his conclusions\nbecause they do totally undermined the claims of the RCC. He was showing that\nthe intitution of the RCC was based on the mysteries (which others have shown\neven to this day in various articles and topics).  THe tongues movement in\nCorinth was a direct result of the mysteries entering into the church.  If it\nwas so in Corinth, why could they not have an influence in Rome, the city of\nseven hills?\n\nAlso, you do not have to listen to his conclusions, you can draw your own\nconclusions by looking at the customs, artifacts, the cerimonial dress, the\ndocrine of purgatory, etc from the vantage of the mysteries.  You don't even\nhave to be a believer to see the parallels.  Just one example.  THe mitre. \nWhere did it come from?  Why is it shaped the way it is?  What are the two\ntails that hang down the back represent?  Was this an ancient  head dress from\nan earlier culture and why was it in Rome at the time of the beginnings of the\nchurch of the State of Rome?  Does it have pagan history behind it, and if so,\nwhy did the RCC chose regardless?\n\nAny lay person of middle eastern religion can answer these questions.  Even the\nscriptures themselves refer to it.  All Hislop did was collect the information\nfrom all the various sources and put them in one binding.  There is no lack of\nscholorship in that.\n\nPlease tell me why you discredit this man by your accusation, yet present no\nevidence supporting it.  ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nThat has sort of happened for real. Back in the 1920's travellers\nin the Sudan would find strange cigar shaped designs on native huts.\nWhen asked the locals would say it was a picture of the great omen\nthat appeared in the sky. This was LZ 53 a zepplin flying from Bulgaria\nto German East Africa with supplies in 1917 (and back since it was fooled\nby the British secret service.)","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nUnfortunately, Roger is now over at r.s.baseball spewing his expertise\n(i.e. being a dickhead).  I guess he is afraid of posting anything\nhere, because he knows what to expect.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":": \n: BUT, to say you're an atheist is to suggest you have PROOF there is NO GOD.\n: To be a politically-correct skeptic, better to go with agnostic, like me! :)\n:\n\nAs a self-proclaimed atheist my position is that I _believe_ that there is\nno god.  I don't claim to have any proof.  I interpret the agnostic position \nas having no beliefs about god's existence.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I have a 486\/33 VLB machine, with a Wang 96\/24 fax\/modem.\nWhen using the windows terminal application, the only way\nI can get it to 'see' the modem is to change it to COM2,\nthen go back and change it to COM4.  Then it works fine.\n(I have it set to COM4 as the port to use)  I don't have\nanything plugged into COM2, and I've looked over the manual\nfor all it's worth, but what am I missing?  The modem is \njumpered for COM4\/IRQ3, which I understand means I can't\nuse the second serial port and the modem at the same time,\nbut I'm not using the second serial port anyway.\nAlso, when using Procomm + for DOS, it always sees the modem\nand dials, but doesn't always connect me when the other end\nanswers.  Don't know if that helps any.\n\nThanks,","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Paul Fortmann submitted a sermon by Peter Hammond on PRAYING FOR\nJUSTICE that spoke of the positive value of the Imprecatory\n(Cursing) Psalms.\n\nIn this connection, I recommend to the membership the book\nREFLECTIONS ON THE PSALMS, by C S Lewis, with special reference to\nthe chapter on \"Cursing in the Psalms.\"","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nThe Houston Chronicle last Thursday (maybe Wednesday) said that\nthe interior of walls had been covered with hay bales to help\nprotect against bullets.  Many of you know how fast dry hay\nburns.\n\n\nIn addition, the gas is specifically designed to force eyes\nclosed and the victim to vomit.  How fast could you leave your\nburning office or home if your eyes were closed and you were\nretching violently?\n\n\n\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nOur doctors' monopoly is exactly the same as in the U.S., if not\nmore powerful now that they can dictate insurance payment rates,\nbut I don't know an answer to this one.  Anecdotally, my friends\nwho are MD's (including my main buds from high school) talk about\nhow hard it is to turn \"state's witness\" against someone else ...\nno direct experience there, though.\n\n\nWell, what American private insurance plans cover travel expenses???\n\nSince our public insurance plans are publicly accountable, one can\nraise a stink in the media to try and extort benefits beyond which\none is entitled (hey, not Alberta's fault that he lives there) ... \nIf he lived in Cheyenne, WY his private insurance would've told him\nto go to hell for the travel expenses and that's that.  An HMO would\nhave just kept quiet and let him go blind.\n\n\nI don't think that this has been shown with the DMC ...\n\n\nIt's regular practice in a hospital to figure out who needs to get\nat what facilities.  Don't Americans have to arrange in advance for\noperations too?  I think that there are two standards being applied\nhere, and that Canada can't give Beverly Hills-style treatment to\neverybody.  It's not a big brother list ... it's more like calling\naround town for a table for dinner ...\n\n\nYes, and the Tories in Ottawa are trying to make them do that rather\nthan hope for a bigger grant from the feds and their province the \nnext time around.  Whether it's using mop a couple of weeks longer\nor even selling services to Americans (remember, our system is cash\nbased and since our health care infrastructure is overbuilt except\nin specialties that require larger populations to generate business,\nwhy not?  The alternative is closing unused wards ... business.).\n\n\nYou answered the question yourself ... \"private nonprofit foundations\nhave to make money somehow\", and I think that it's about time that\nthey acted like the private hospitals that they are.  Personally,\nI'm fed up with Canadian socialists trying to tell everyone that\ntheir health care is free when we are actually buying insurance\n(that's one at you, Bob Rae!!).\n\n\nSince we have always been evaluated in an OECD style, I don't see\nhow ... remember, OECD counts both private and public funds, and\nin Canada like France and Germany, 30% of health care spending is\nprivate funds (i.e., not the basic health insurance money).\n\n\nMinor copayments can flush out abusers.  Remember that our \"system\"\nis only an insurance policy.  But our costs aren't rising fast\nenough to ensure adequate copayments\/deductibles ... last year,\nQuebec's user-fee proposal came out with the number of \"$5\" as\nthe necessary hike that could be done through a copayment rather\nthan give the QMA a raise.  And it's not contract time yet, as\nfar as I can tell from UPI Clarinet ...\n\nEven the new Reform Party, a breakoff of traditionalists from the\nConservatives with a mildly \"libertarian\" faction, holds our public\nhealth insurance as an untouchable but that just a few people have to\nbe reminded that it's not free (the average Canadian\/European is more\nfiscally naive than their American counterparts on issues like these).\nBut no mention of copayments anywhere to be seen ... but cutting public\nspending all over the place, and bringing back the death penalty, with\nlittle haste if elected.\n\n\nSorry! (-;  It's just that I even run into people from Buffalo\nand from Michigan who don't know ...\n\n\nYeah, but there'd be a lot of lead-time and a health-care crisis that\nwould preclude it.  If provincial governments (as bad as some of them\nare; heck, we have the NDP cleaning up a spending mess made by the\nConservatives in Saskatchewan - embarassing!) can be so irresponsible,\nthere is still reallocation --- health insurance is so important that\nit's about the only thing that can inspire open rebellion and violent\ninsurrection outside of the hockey rink.  Right now, attempts to get\nthe system and its users to learn good habits are being treated like\ncod-liver oil ...\n\n\nMost Americans are fearful of a single-tier system ... (-;\n\nSeriously, there are few areas that have sufficient population for a\ntwo\/more-tiered system like what the French have ... a health policy\nprof, D.G. Shea, has cited studies in the NEJM that indicate having\na population of 500,000 is necessary for adequate competition ...\nand in Canada, there are only four cities west of the Great Lakes\nwith that population or larger.\n\nAnyways, the numbers show that costs have held steadier than those\nin the U.S. and barring any future Chernobyl-like crisis, sudden\ntransients in spending are unlikely.  In fact, the health allocation\nis one of the most well-behaved sectors of spending up north so any\ntalk of bankruptcy is talk-radio fodder far away from the border.\n\n\nThis won't be overnight, and something like this would force Canada\nto have a system more like the French one ... but that's not a bad\nthing, and the change will be minimal (i.e., add copayments and\nfrustrate the socialists chanting \"Hey, it's *free*!\").\n\ngld","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Our group is interested in using a 'pixmap' format for multi-colored\nicons\/buttons etc that is easily converted to and from other format from\n'resource' files. Using pbmplus we can easily move to\/from Xpm to our other\nenvironments of MS-Windows and OS\/2 PM :-(. We were wondering if Xpm or some\nother format is under consideration to be used as a standard by the X\nconsortium for R6 as we would prefer to use whatever will be best supported by\nX. \n\nAlong the same subject line, is the reason the standard X pixmap is not used\nbecause it doesn't have an associated colormap and other attributes? or is it\nmore involved? just wondering why there aren't editors for pixmaps out there\nfor the 'original' format.\n\nEmail replies preferred. Thanks in advance.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nIs that how the mind of a compulsive liar works? The scenario and \ngenocide staged by the Armenians 78 years ago in x-Soviet Armenia \nis being reenacted again - this time in Azerbaijan. There are remarkable \nsimilarities between the plots, the perpetrators, and the underdogs. \n\nThe stories of survivors of Karabag massacre:\n\n69 year old Hatin Nine telling:\n\n-''My Twin grandchildren were cut to pieces in front of my eyes. They told\nme: We won't kill you. But the babies have to die in front of your eyes.''\n\n72 year old Huseyin Ibrahimoglu:\n\n- ''Our Turkish village in Khojalu Town was blown up in two hours.\n  Turks, you must die.''\n\n28 year old Gulsum Huseyin:\n\n- ''They bayonetted my 3 year old daughter in her stomach in front of\n    my eyes.''\n\nAre these stories lies? Have the eye-witnesses been day-dreaming?\nWere these stories forged by Turkish journalists in the region?\n\nThe nonsense of such a claim is clear from the writings of British\nJournalists, too. Two days before we had quoted from a Sunday Times\narticle. They[British] reported the events in Karabag even before\nTurkish journalists. What is more here are the pictures. Pictures\nof people who were bayonetted, whose eyes were gouged, ears cut off.\n\nEven the Armenian Radio couldn't claim these \"lies.\" They are saying\n\"exaggeration.\" That means ''somethings'' have happened but the\nsituation is not as bad as reported. Perhaps that village of Khojalu\ntown was destroyed in 4 hours, instead of 2... Or Gulsum Huseyin's\n3 year old daughter was bayonetted in her chest instead of stomach...\n\nThe massacre is clearly seen with all its dimensions. The effects of\nthis massacre on Karabag and environs cannot be reduced by any word.\n\nSome of the western press', led by some French Newspapers, ability\nto ''close their eyes'' is nothing but complicity in this massacre.\n\nYesterday we gave samples from Le Figaro. Until yesterday's print\nno news about the real events in Karabag were printed. So were the\nFrench TV channels.. The subject they considered related to Karabag\nwas ''The necessity of protecting Armenians against Azeri attacks.''\n\nThe age we are living in is termed a human rights age. There are lots\nof organizations such as United Nations and CSCE(Conference on Security\nand Cooperation in Europe), and rules, all designed to fight against human\nrights violations. International reactions must be made with international\ncooperation. With support of everybody and every organization claiming\nto be civilized.\n\nCould there be a more serious human rights violation than that of the\nright to live -and with such levels of barbarity and cruelty-? Where\nis the cooperation? Where are the reactions? And the intellectuals,\njournalists, writers, TV stations of certain western countries such\nas France who are fast to claim leadership of \"human rights?\"\nWhere are you?\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nIt is one thing to be open-minded about phenomona that have not\nbe demonstrated to be false, and quite another to \"believe\" in\nsomething like Krilian photography, where *all* the claimed effects\nhave be demonstrated to be artifacts.  There is no longer any reason\nto adopt a \"wait and see\" attitude about Krilian photography, it\nhas been experimentally shown to be nothing but simple coronal\ndischarge.  The \"auras\" shown by missing leaf parts came from \nmoisture left by the original whole leaf, for example.  \n\nThat's what science is, son.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n   The dogma of the Assumption does not state whether or not Mary died a\nphysical death before being taken into Heaven.  Catholics are free to\nbelieve what they wish, whether it be that she was taken still alive, or\nafter having died.  I lean somewhat toward the latter myself.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nThe following news from Turan News Agency in Baku-Azerbaijan\nis brought to you as a service of:\n\n                  <Azerbaijan Aydinlig Association>\n                         P.O. Box 14571\n                       Berkeley, CA 94701\n                      FAX: (804) 490-3832\n                    Email: farid@mem.odu.edu\n\nP L E A S E make a hard copy of the news available to an Azerbaijani near you!\n\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\nH E A D L I N E S |\n\n* THE NEW VICE-PREMIER PLANS TO INTENSIFY THE WORK ON THE ATTRACTION OF\n  WESTERN INVESTMENTS \n* THE PROPOSAL TO SUMMON SPECIAL SESSION OF THE SUPREME SOVIET IS REJECTED\n  AGAIN\n* THE PROSPECTS OF TRADE\/ECONOMIC COOPERATION BETWEEN AZERBAIJAN AND ESTONIA \n* AZERBAIJAN DOES NOT INTEND TO JOIN THE CIS COMMON ECONOMIC ZONE \n* THE QUESTIONS OF GRANTING CREDIT TO AZERBAIJAN WILL BE DISCUSSED IN MOSCOW \n* AZERBAIJAN WILL REPLY TO THE SECOND VARIANT OF TRILATERAL INITIATIVE BY 26\n  OF MAY \n* THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE PROSECUTOR OF THE REPUBLIC OF AZERBAIJAN \n* AZERBAIJAN'S PARLIAMENT INTENDS TO APPEAL TO RUSSIAN PARLIAMENT REGARDING\n  THE SIX ACCUSED SOLDIERS\n* ARMENIANS ARE PREPARING MORE \"KARABAKHS\" ON THE NORTH CAUCASUS\n* STATE ASSISTANCE FOR NATIONAL MINORITY DEVELOPMENT\n* MEMORANDUM OF COOPERATION ON EXTRACTING OIL-GAS FIELDS OF AZERBAIJAN WAS\n  SIGNED\n* ARMENIA TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE PROSECUTION OF SIX RUSSIAN SOLDIERS \n* NEW PROVOCATIONS OF ARMED FORCES OF ARMENIA \n* \"UNOCAL\" COMPANY WILL BUILD 50 HOUSES FOR REFUGEES IN AZERBAIJAN \n* MANAT IS BEGINNING TO FALL IN VALUE \n* THE DISCUSSION OF PARLIAMENTARY ELECTION BILL WILL LAST TILL MID JULY \n* ISA GAMBAR SUGGESTS THAT AZERI-RUSSIAN PARLIAMENT COMMISSION FOR CLARIFYING\n  THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE CRIMINAL CASE BE CREATED \n* WILL THE TRILATERAL INITIATIVE BE RUINED? \n* FATE OF 645 MILLION TONS OF OIL WILL BE DECIDED THIS SUMMER \n* THE SCIENTISTS-LAWYERS OF RUSSIA APPEALED TO THE PRESIDENT OF AZERBAIJAN\n* ARMENIAN ARTILLERY CONTINUES FIRING ON AZERI DISTRICTS\n* AZERI PRIME-MINISTER IS LEAVING FOR GREAT BRITAIN \n\n\nTHE NEW VICE-PREMIER PLANS TO INTENSIFY THE WORK ON THE ATTRACTION OF\nWESTERN INVESTMENTS\n\n  BAKU (MAY 19) TURAN: Yesterday, Rasul Guliyev, the recently appointed\nVice-Premier of the republic, received the US ambassador in Azerbaijan,\nRichard Miles. As \"Azerbaijan\" newspaper informs, the issue of attraction\nof western investments in Azerbaijan was discussed in the meeting. In\nparticular, Gulyiev stated that western capital has to be investigated in\nthe most profitable spheres of manufacture. He also noticed, that the number\nof the priority manufactures will be released from debts. \nGuliyev also said that intensifying the activities of the American oil \ncompanies will promote the strengthening of the American-Azeri relations.\n\n\nTHE PROPOSAL TO SUMMON SPECIAL SESSION OF THE SUPREME SOVIET IS REJECTED AGAIN\n\n   Baku (May 19) Turan: Yesterday, in the sitting of the Milli Mejlis,\nthe chairman, Isa Gambar, rejected the proposal of the deputy Arif\nRahimzade to summon a special session of the Supreme Soviet of Azerbaijan.\n  This written proposal to summon a session was signed by 130 deputates. But\nthe chairman said that the signatures were invalid and the proposal couldn't\nbe submitted for discussion.\n   Earlier, the leadership of the Milli Mejlis called the proposal to summon\na special session of the Supreme Soviet a coup attempt. But the deputy for\nthe Parliament, Rahimzade, doesn't consider that the deputates have the \nobjective of removing Milli Mejlis and its chairman from the power. It concerns the\nserious analysis of the social, economic and foreign policy activity of the\nrepublic's authority. Rahimzade said that the deputates for the Parliament,\nejected from their duties one year ago have the rights to express their opinion\non these questions.\n   The Supreme Soviet of Azerbaijan (340 deputates) was dissolved one year ago,\nwhen it attempted to bring Ayaz Mutalibov back to the power.\n   The functions of S.S. were handed over to Milli Mejlis, consisting of 50\ndeputates (25 \"democrats\" and 25 \"partocrates\"). At that time \"democrats\" and\n\"partocrates\" came to an agreement that Milli Mejlis wouldn't exist for a long \ntime and would be dissolved after parliamentary elections. At the same time,\nthe deputates ejected from their duties were guaranteed that they could summon\na session of the Supreme Soviet any time and went in for political activity out\nof the Parliament. --0--\n\n\nTHE PROSPECTS OF TRADE\/ECONOMIC COOPERATION BETWEEN AZERBAIJAN AND ESTONIA\n\n    Baku (May 19) Turan: The prospects of signing trade-economic agreement\nbetween Azerbaijan and Estonia were discussed in the meeting of the Foreign \nMinister Tofig Gasimov with the group of experts of the Ministry of Economics,\nMinister of Foreign Affairs and Estonian Bank administration on May 18. \nThe group of experts is headed by Tikht Reiman, the chief of the Ministry of\nEconomics of Estonia.\n   The MIA of Azerbaijan informed Turan agency, that in their stay in Baku,\nthe delegation will also visit Ministry of Economics and National Bank of the\nrepublic.--0--\n\n\nAZERBAIJAN DOES NOT INTEND TO JOIN THE CIS COMMON ECONOMIC ZONE\n\n   Baku (May 19) Turan: Deputy prime-ministers of the republic, Vahid\nAhmedov and Abbas Abbasov declared that Azerbaijan wouldn't join the CIS\ncommon economic zone.\n   Vahid Ahmedov considers that the CIS economic zone proposal to create a \ncommon tax system contradicts independent economic policy of the republic. \nAccording to Abbas Abbasov, the pact of cooperation proposals, submitted for\nthe discussion of the leaders of CIS states in Moscow on May 14, has a number\nof unfavorable points for Azerbaijan.\n   Such announcements of two deputy prime-ministers sound sensational on the\nbackground of the fact that the president of Azerbaijan and the chairman of\nthe Parliament noted the necessity of the republic on joining the CIS economic\nzone.--0--\n\n\nTHE QUESTIONS OF GRANTING CREDIT TO AZERBAIJAN WILL BE DISCUSSED IN MOSCOW\n\n     Baku (May 19) Turan: Today, Azerbaijani delegation headed by the director\nof the foreign relation department of the Ministry of Finance of the republic\nalong with the representatives of the National Bank will leave for Moscow to\nhold consultation with Russian government on granting credit to Azerbaijan. \nAccording to the preliminary information, the credit will be 50 billion rubles.\n    As press-centre of Ministry of Finance informed Turan's correspondent, \nprecise amount of the credit, conditions of its repay and a number of other\nquestions of mutual interest will be discussed in the course of the meeting in\nMoscow. It is known that this credit will be mostly used for mutual settling\nof industrial enterprises of Azerbaijan and Russia.\n    When the sides reach the agreement, it is proposed for signing by the end \nof May.--0--\n\n\nAZERBAIJAN WILL REPLY TO THE SECOND VARIANT OF TRILATERAL INITIATIVE BY 26 OF\nMAY\n\n     Baku (May 19) Turan: On the measures for peace presented by Russia,\nTurkey and the USA to Azerbaijan and Armenia, the representative of the\npresident of Azerbaijan in the talks on Nagorno-Karabakh, Asim Gasimov noted\nthat the plan was not seriously changed in comparison with the first variant.\n     \"Just some comments to several points were added to the schedule by \ninsistence of the Armenian side. We do not intend to come back to the analysis\nof the schedule, because we have given a positive answer to it on May 6\",- said\nGasimov.\n     The representative of the president of Azerbaijan informed that they just\nbegan to work on the examination of the commentary, and their answer would be \ngiven as requested by the authors of trilateral initiative by May 26.\n     As it is known, the first variant of the peace measures was rejected by\nArmenia, which put forward a number of pre-conditions for its acceptance.--0--\n\n\nTHE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE PROSECUTOR OF THE REPUBLIC OF AZERBAIJAN\n\n   BAKU (MAY 20) TURAN: The Azerbaijani prosecutor's office has announced\nthat the Russian mass media's attempt to portray the 6 Russian soldiers \ncondemned by the military board of the Azerbaijani Supreme Court, as innocent\npeople is unjustified.\n    Accounts of the witnesses and the confessions of the condemned themselves,\nprove that their crimes were committed together with the Armenian military units\nand with the knowledge of the headquarters of the Russian army unit, where they\nserved.\n    The announcement points out that the attempts to represent these soldiers\nas ordinary mercenaries who have nothing to do with the Russian army are also \nunfounded. For there are irrefutable evidences that these soldiers were on the\nlist of one of the military unit's of Russian commandos in Yerevan.\n   Certain Russian circles try to conceal the fact of direct participation of\nthe Russian army in the undeclared war of Armenia against Azerbaijan from the\nRussian community. Azerbaijan's prosecutor's announcement follows, that this\ntype of actions can make the situation in the region much more complicated.--0--\n\n\nAZERBAIJAN'S PARLIAMENT INTENDS TO APPEAL TO RUSSIAN PARLIAMENT REGARDING THE\nSIX ACCUSED SOLDIERS\n\n     BAKU (MAY 20) TURAN: As Turan agency was informed, parliament of Azerbaijan\nis considering the question of appealing to Russian parliament about the six\naccused soldiers' fortune. In particular, the offer to send the representatives\nof the Commission on military affairs of the armed forces of Russian Federation\nto Baku for the detailed study of the results of six Russian soldiers' case will\nbe directed to Russian parliament.\n     According to one of the supporters of this offer, such initiative will give\nRussian parliament the possibility to be convinced of the correctness of the\ninvestigation. There will also be a chance to discuss the reasons that have\ngiven rise to the present situation - that is the Russian troops participation\nin the war against Azerbaijan.\n\n\nARMENIANS ARE PREPARING MORE \"KARABAKHS\" ON THE NORTH CAUCASUS\n\n     BAKU (MAY 20) TURAN: The National-liberation front founded by group of \nArmenians living on the North Caucasus appealed to establish Armenian autonomies\non the territories of Rostov, Stavropol and Krasnodar regions, - reported the\nnewspaper \"Russky vestnik\" on March 9, 1993 published in Geneva.\n     The North Caucasus is regarded as an integral part of Armenia in the \ndocuments of this organization. Admitting the non-realizability of \"reunion\" of\nthe North Caucasus and \"Armenia proper\" at present, the front is appealing to \nthe UN, presidents of Russia, Armenia and the United States to consider the\nneed to establish Armenian autonomies on the Caucasus.\n     To attain these goals, the Armenian organization considers it necessary to\ncarry out on the North Caucasus the forms and methods of activity \"identical to\nthose in Nagorno Karabakh\". Besides the decision to fund cells of Armenian\nnational-liberation fronts in every settlement and to appeal to leaders of\nArmenian terrorist groups in Greece and Iran to sent to the North Caucasus \ninstructors for training of Armenian youth to wage secret wars was adopted.\n     Thus according to the newspaper \"Russky vestnik\", \"new Karabakhs\" are \nbeing planning on the North Caucasus. --O--\n\n\nSTATE ASSISTANCE FOR NATIONAL MINORITY DEVELOPMENT\n\n     BAKU (MAY 20) TURAN: The meeting headed by the State secretary of\nAzerbaijan, Ali Kerimov, with the participation of the national cultural\ncenters was held in Baku. The first results of the realization of the president\nElchibey's decree on state assistance for the development of language and\nculture of national minorities adopted on September 16, 1992 were considered. \n     The State secretary called this decree as an important step to establish a\nlegal democratic state. He confirmed once more the commitment of the leadership\nof Azerbaijan to set up a democratic society in which the rights of all \nnationalities and ethnic groups would be respected.\n     The State Counsellor of the president of Azerbaijan on the national policy,\nHidayat Orujev, announced that in spite of the difficulties of the \"undeclared\nwar\" against the republic, the leaders of the state managed to solve many \nproblems concerning the satisfaction of cultural and other needs of the ethnic\ngroups. \n     For today, all 33 national-cultural centers registered by the Ministry of\nJustice in the capital of Azerbaijan are provided with accommodation, furniture \nand means of communication. All the accommodations are rent-free ( 8 foreign\ndiplomatic missions in Baku are placed in the hotels because of the absence of\nfree accommodations including the representation of the UN General secretary). \n     As it was noted, a great work was carried out since the decree was adopted\nto create conditions for total development of the ethnic groups. On the North of\nAzerbaijan where Lezghins live, a national Lezghin theater was opened, \nradiocast is transmitted in Lezghin. The work over the creation of the\neducational literature for Talyshs, Tats, Lezghins and Kurds and national\nteaching and scientific staff is being carried out in the Academy of Sciences\nof Azerbaijan.--O-- \n\n\nMEMORANDUM OF COOPERATION ON EXTRACTING OIL-GAS FIELDS OF AZERBAIJAN WAS SIGNED\n\n     BAKU (MAY 20) TURAN: As Turan agency was informed in the State \nconcern \"Azerineft\", the Memorandum of understanding with the companies\n\"AMOCO Caspian Sea Petroleum\", \"Bi-Pi Exploration Operating\", \"Pennzoil\nCaspian\", \"Unocal Khazar Ltd.\", \"McDermott\" and Turkish oil corporation on\nmutual extracting of fields \"Azeri\", \"Chirag\" and \"Gyuneshli\" was signed. \nAccording to the memorandum, the general group on preparing of a common\nprogram of activity was created. \n     According to the president of \"Azerineft\", Sabit Bagirov, cooperation\nwill provide for using the experience of foreign companies more efficiently. \n     During the project, the main principles will be the effective use of\noil-gas resources, the rational sharing of investments, the reducing of\nexploitation expenditures and maximizing the profit of Azerbaijan from the\nexploitation of these fields. \nThe memorandum also envisions the necessity to take into account the historical\nand political-economical interests of Azerbaijan under optimum use of oil-gas\nfields. --O--\n\n\nARMENIA TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE PROSECUTION OF SIX RUSSIAN SOLDIERS\n\n     BAKU (MAY 21) TURAN: After Azerbaijani court passed sentence on \nsix Russian soldiers fighting on the Armenian side in Karabakh,\nArmenian propaganda has become actively involved.\n     The Armenians living in Russia appealed to the president Yeltsin\nwith a request \"to display firmness in asserting the rights of Russian\nsoldiers\". At the same time, Armenian mass media call legal proceedings\non the case in Baku as \"a farce aimed at getting more arms from Russia\".\n     The Karabakh Armenians have issued a threat recently. If one could\nbelieve the Yerevan agency \"Snark\", the Armenians in Karabakh presented\nan ultimatum to authorities in Azerbaijan. The essence of this ultimatum\nis that if Russian soldiers are not shown mercy, three Azeri prisoners in\nKarabakh will be shot dead.\n     It is simple to explain such \"touching attitude of Armenians\" to\nthe six Russian soldiers' fate. If by chance the sentence is executed\nit will cause not anti-Azeri but anti-Armenian reaction, as the accused\nRussian soldiers were recruited in Yerevan by the former Defence Minister\nof Armenia and then transferred to Karabakh.\n     If the soldiers get mercy, Armenian side will think highly of its\nsaving of lives of \"innocent Russians\". --O--\n\n\nNEW PROVOCATIONS OF ARMED FORCES OF ARMENIA\n\n     BAKU (MAY 21) TURAN: According to the Defence Ministry of\nAzerbaijan on May 20-21, the firing on the territories of Azerbaijan\nfrom the military bases on the territory of Armenia was in progress.\n     The day before, the villages of Kolly-Gyshlag, Shotaraz,\nNyachaflar of Zangelan district of Azerbaijan were under fire from\nKafan district of Armenia. Two inhabitants were wounded, there were\ndestructions in the villages.\n     On May 20, the firing on the villages of Bashkend, Mutudere,\nShynykh, Novosaratovka and Novoivanovka of Kedabek district of\nAzerbaijan from the positions of Armenian armed forces was in\nprogress.\n     At the same day the diversion group of the armed forces of\nArmenia (50-60 men) violated the frontier of Azerbaijan, penetrated\ninto the territory of Kedabek district of Azerbaijan, killed two\nshepherds at the village of Aili-Dara and made an attempt to take a\nflock across the frontier. Azeri frontier-guards stopped the enemy.--O--\n\n\n\"UNOCAL\" COMPANY WILL BUILD 50 HOUSES FOR REFUGEES IN AZERBAIJAN\n\n     BAKU (MAY 21) TURAN: As Turan agency was informed by the\nrepresentation of UNOCAL American oil company, the leaders of this\ncompany decided to give 750 thousand dollars for the construction of\n50 houses for refugees.\n     At present, the American side suggested a village project for \nconsideration by appropriate departments of Azerbaijan. The project\nis a farm village where each house has a personal lot, subsidiary\naccommodations and so on.\n     According to the program the construction and putting into\noperation of the village will be this year. --O--\n\n\nMANAT IS BEGINNING TO FALL IN VALUE\n\n     BAKU (MAY 21) TURAN: Lately, at the black market of Baku, the\nnational currency - Manat, fell in price compared with the Russian\nRuble. Thus one gives 1100 Rubles or 120 Manats for one US dollar.\nTaking into account the official exchange-value of the Manat with \nrespect to Ruble which is 1-10, the national currency fell in value\n10 percent. Meanwhile the exchange-value of the Manat to the Ruble is\nthe same at banks, state establishments and in trade.\n     According to the representatives of the business circles and\nexperts, the present situation is explained by the fact that the rubles\nare bought by the local businessmen. They need rubles for financial\noperations in Russia. As the remittance of payments from the republics\nof the former USSR to Russia is a great problem now, many businessmen\narrange deals in cash. Taking into consideration the volume of business \nwith Russia, counted by billions, it is not hard to imagine how much \nRubles in cash the businessmen need. --O--\n\n\nTHE DISCUSSION OF PARLIAMENTARY ELECTION BILL WILL LAST TILL MID JULY\n\n    Baku (May 22) Turan: According to the president's decree, the\nexpert group, including representatives of the Parliament and \npresidential apparatus, are working out new wording of the Constitution\nof the Republic of Azerbaijan. This must be adopted by Milli Mejlis before\nthe Parliamentary elections. Together with this, the work on the new\nConstitution, that would be, evidently, adopted by new Parliament of\nthe country, is going on. The newsmen were informed about the work on the\npress-conference of the Supreme Soviet of the republic the day before.\n    Parliamentary legal experts, Safa Mirzoyev, Simran Hasanov and \nrepresentatives of the department of the president's apparatus Fazil Mustafaev\nand Shahin Aliev took part in the press-conference.\n    The national discussion of the project of the Parliamentary\nelection law is going on at present. According to Simran Hasanov the bill\ndidn't cause any objections. It was noted, that until now, no alternative\nvariant of the election law was put forward.\n   The newsmen were also informed, that Parliamentary commissions\nwill examine all coming proposals till June 10. By June 15 all\nproposals will be generalized and submitted for discussion in Milli Mejlis.--0--\n\n\nISA GAMBAR SUGGESTS THAT AZERI-RUSSIAN PARLIAMENT COMMISSION FOR \nCLARIFYING THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE CRIMINAL CASE BE CREATED\n\n   BAKU (MAY 22) TURAN: The Chairman of the Milly Mejlis of the\nAzerbaijan republic, Isa Gambar, sent the return letter to the Chairman\nof the Russian Supreme Soviet Ruslan Khasbulatov in connection with\nthe conviction of the Russian servicemen lieutenant V.Semion, sergeant\nK. Tukish, M.Lisov and A.Filipov by the military college of the\nSupreme Court of Azerbaijan.\n   In his letter, Isa Gambar suggested that the commission of Azerbaijan\nMilly Mejlis deputates on a par with the experts of the Russian Supreme\nSoviet be established to clarify the circumstances of this criminal\ncase. In his view, \"the conclusion of the commission could help in the \nobjective solving of this problem, as well as such kind of problems\nin the future. But the main thing is, it could help to promote the\nknowledge about involvement of the Russian servicemen in crime\".\n   In its turn, in connection with the Russian parliament message,\nMilly Mejlis adopted a resolution on May 19, according to which the\npermanent commissions on government building and legal policy, human\nrights and international relations are charged with the exploration of\nthis problem.--0--\n\n\nWILL THE TRILATERAL INITIATIVE BE RUINED?\n\n      Baku (May 22) Turan: As Turan agency was informed, Russian representative\nto the talks on Karabakh, Vladimir Kazimirov, doubted in realization of the \nTrilateral initiative. He expressed this opinion during a telephone talk with\nthe representatives of Azerbaijan. At the same talk he declared, that in case\nthe peace process deadlocked, Russia would pursue Yeltsin's initiative itself.\n     Such statement from the Russian diplomat, who is one of the authors\nof the Trilateral initiative, suggests that the Russian leadership is\npaving the way for complete exclusion of the USA and probably Turkey from\nthe peacemaking process. This statement can also mean, that Russia and\nUS having achieved understanding on Bosnian problem, have agreed on partial\nUS departure from Transcaucasia.--0--\n\n\nFATE OF 645 MILLION TONS OF OIL WILL BE DECIDED THIS SUMMER\n\n   Baku (May 22) Turan: The president of Azerbaijan State Oil Company,\nSabit Bagirov, declared recently that complete treaty on development of\noil fields Chirag, Azeri and Guneshli would be signed this summer.\nAs it is known, western oil companies AMOCO, BP-STATOIL, PENNZOIL-\nRAMCO have an interest on development of these three richest Caspian\nfields.\n   According to the plan, SOCAR and BP-STATOIL are to sign a complete\ntreaty on development of Chirag field on June 16. Later AMOCO and\nPENNZOIL will sign treaties.\n   Specialists value total reserves of these three fields to be 645\nmillion ton. 310 million of them fall on Azeri field, 180 mln.ton\non Geneshli and 150 mln.ton on Chirag.\n   The exploitation of these fields is to last tens of years and it is to\nbring in Azerbaijan 100 billion dollars in revenue. In addition to the net\neconomic profit, Baku calculates upon the political support of the West in\nthe defence of its interests at the international scene.\n   As president Elchibey said in his closest encirclement \"the May of\n1993 will be one of the most difficult periods for Azerbaijan and its\nindependence and we have to stand these tests\".--0--\n\nTHE SCIENTIST-LAWYERS OF RUSSIA APPEALED TO THE PRESIDENT OF AZERBAIJAN\n\n   BAKU (MAY 22) TURAN: As the press-service of the president of Azerbaijan\ninforms, today, the appeal of the Institute of the Government and law of the\nRussian Academy of Sciences to president Elchibey was received.\nThe appeal contains the call \"to display mercy, humanism and clemency \non the death sentences of the former servicemen of the Russian Armed\nForces\".\n   The authors of the appeal point out, that they don't justify the\nparticipation of the Russian servicemen in the war against the azeri people,\ndon't call in question the lawfulness of the passed sentence, denounce\nthe mercenary according to the UN principals, and they are sorry about the\nRussian servicemen being drawn in such grave crime.\n    At the end of their letter, scientists, mentioning the soldiers'\nmothers' tears and grief, their praying day and night of safety, ask the\npresident of Azerbaijan to \"save those guys\".\n   It should be noticed, that unlike lawyers, soldiers' mothers,\ntaking part in the inquiry, called the cause of their grief only\nRussian policy. According to their words, the leaders, that lay down\nlives of Russian men to achieve their political aims, must be made\nanswerable.\n    Unfortunately, the appeal didn't mention the grief of the mothers\nof Azerbaijani soldiers, killed by sentenced Russian servicemen.--0--\n\n\nARMENIAN ARTILLERY CONTINUES FIRING ON AZERI DISTRICTS\n\n     BAKU (MAY 22) TURAN: On May 22, two soldiers of National army of\nAzerbaijan were killed during the \"Grad\" shelling of the villages of\nKolly Gyshlag, Shaifly, Shotaraz, Nyachaflar of Zangelan district of\nthe republic from the territory of Kafan district of Armenia.\n     The night before and in the morning of May 22, the villages of\nTovuz, Gazakh and Gubatly districts of Azerbaijan were under fire\nfrom the territory of Armenia. There are destructions. \n     The situation in Agder district of Azerbaijan became complicated. \nOn May 21, the enemy fired on the regional centre of Agdere from the\nvillage of Ortakend. The transportation of man power and military equipment\nto this district is in progress. According to reports the enemy is setting\nup a new weapon emplacement to fire on the regional centre and near by\nvillages.\n     According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the concentration\nof man power and military equipment is observed in Krasnoselsky\ndistrict of Armenia which borders on Azerbaijan as well as on the\nfrontier with Fizuli district. --O--\n\n\nAZERI PRIME-MINISTER IS LEAVING FOR GREAT BRITAIN\n\n  BAKU ( MAY 22 ) TURAN : The Minister of Foreign Economic Relations,\nRauf Garayev, in his interview to Turan agency said, that\n\"Great Britain is the biggest foreign economic partner of Azerbaijan\nafter Iran\". The business cooperation between the two countries\ndevelops in such spheres as oil - industry, the manufacture of oil\nextraction equipment, communication and agriculture.\n  According to the Minister's words, the forthcoming visit of\nAzerbaijani Prime-Minister, Panah Huseynov, to Great Britain on May\n23-24, is very important. It is expected, that the visit will\nhelp, to solve the problems of opening in Azerbaijan the branch\noffices of some British banks, insurance firms; to conclude\ncontracts on the sphere of manufacture of agricultural equipment; on\nbuilding in Azerbaijan off shore oil platforms, and reconstruction of the\nentire communication system of Azerbaijan.\n   In Garayev's view, the expansion of the cooperation with Great Britain\nwill have a great political meaning for Azerbaijan.\n   According to politicians and reviewers in Baku, at present, Great\nBritain as an European state is close to Azerbaijan. The continuation of\nthe economic and political cooperation of the two states is foreseen. --O--\n\n           \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ \n             T U R A N    N E W S    A G E N C Y\n                     Baku - Azerbaijan      \n                Phone: (8922) 66-7977  66-7833\n                    Fax: (8922) 66-2009\n                   Telex: 142168 META SU\n           \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\n                  \nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Yedi'ot Ahronot, April 9, 1993.  Excerpt.\n\nEACH ONE AND HIS OWN NEVO*\n\n(* A reference to General Azri'el Nevo, Shamir's Military Secretary. \nIrrelevant to this excerpt.)\n\nBy Nahum Barne'a\n\n. . .\n\nIn mid '91 SHABAK found itself in the center of another storm [...]. \nA year and a half earlier, Khaled Sheikh Ali, 27, a member of the\nIslamic Jihad, died at the SHABAK installation in Gaza prison.  The\ntwo SHABAK interrogators who were responsible for his death were put\non trial. In September '91 the Supreme Court rejected their appeal and\nsentenced them to 6 months in prison.  As far as is known, this was\nthe first time in Israel's history that SHABAK operatives were sent to\nprison.  The Supreme Court unanimously rejected the warning by the\ndirector of SHABAK that the sentence will be detrimental the\neffectiveness of other interrogators. [...] The judges in the case\nwere [...] Barak, Goldberg, and Matza.\n\nWhen they realized that they were on their own, the interrogators\nagreed to talk.  Deputy State Attorney Rachel Sukkar[sp?] was placed\nin charge of investigating the affair.  She [...] questioned the\ndirectors of all SHABAK divisions.  She investigated only the matter\nof the death in Gaza prison.  She discovered that not only torture,\nbut also \"the culture of lies\", which Judge Landau had described in\nhis report of two years before, were still very much in existence. \nNothing had changed.\n\nThe report was classified and was seen by only some ten people, among\nthem the Prime Minister, the people at the top of the judicial system\nand Judge Landau.  The director of SHABAK claimed that he did not\nknow.  After all, they were dealing only with a single jail and with\nlow ranking people.  The system bit the bullet and accepted the\nexplanation.  One of SHABAK's high-ranking officials was transfered\nfrom his very high position to a less high position.\n\n. . .\n\n[\"The culture of lies\" referred to above is the SHABAK interrogators'\npolicy of lying in court when denying detainees claims that they were\ntortured in the course of interrogation.  The Landau commission sought\nto correct this problem by legalizing a list of torture methods --\nthus eliminating the fear that a detainee might be released if those\nmethods were used to extract a confession.  The fact that the need to\nlie still persists would seem to indicate that SHABAK is not sticking\nto the \"approved\" torture methods. -- Yigal]","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I believe many people will be happy to have this information.   So, \nplease post it to the comp.graphics.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nCool it, will you?  Let people form their own opinions.\nEven Mr. Sternlight might be right sometime, and you guys\nare setting things up so that the only way he can regain \nany credibility is to renounce his previous statements and\nmove towards the mainstream of net.opinion.  This does not\nbespeak tolerance, IMO.\n\n\nIndeed...  ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nI think this should be illuminating to all. Let me make a first\nsuggestion. When Arabic words, especially technical ones, become of use \nlet us define them for those, especially atheists, to whom they may not be\nterribly familiar. Please also note that though I did initially refer\nto Khomeini as a heretic for what I understood to be a claim -- rejected \nby you since -- of personal infallibility, I withdraw this as a basis\nfor such a statement. I conditionally retain this reference in regard\nto Khomeini's advocacy of the thesis of the infallibility of the \nso-called \"Twelve Imams,\" which is in clear conflict with the Qur'an \nin that it places the Twelve Imams in a category of behavior and example\nhigher than that of the Muhammad, in that the Qur'an shows that the\nProphet was clearly fallible, as well as (it appears, given your\nabstruse theological statment regarding the \"natures\"  of the Twelve\nImams) placing them in a different metaphysical category than the \nremainder of humanity, with the possible exception of Muhammad, \nsomething which verges on the sin of association.\n\n\nAlaikum Wassalam,","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Hmmmm I noticed sometime ago that I could do the same on my Virago, and\nsince I don't read many schematics, I didn't really think aobut it too\nmuch.   Yes it does provide excellent coverage, but I figured it would\nprobably draw a little too much current.  I also figured that it was \noverlapped just to prevent a blank spot of no headlight.  Are you saying \nthat these switches are designed for the hi\/lo combination?\n\n\n ------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":": Lets talk about principles. If we accept that God sets the\n: standards for what ought to be included in Scripture - then we\n: can ask:\n: 1. Is it authoritative?\n\n\"Authoritative\" is not a quality of the writing itself- it is a statement\nby the community of faith whether it will accept the writing as normative.\n\n: 2. Is it prophetic?\n\nHow is \"prophecy\" to be defined? If it is \"speaking forth\" of God's message,\nmuch of the apocrypha must surely qualify.\n\n: 3. Is it authentic?\n\nAgain, by what standard?  Is \"authenticity\" a function of the authors? the\nhistorical accuracy? \n\n: 4. Is it dynamic?\n\nWhat is this supposed to mean?  Many of the apocryphal books are highly\n\"dynamic\" -thought provoking, faithful, even exciting.\n\n: 5. Is it received, collected, read and used?\n\nBy whom?  Of course the apocryphal books were received (by some),\ncollected (or else we would not have them), read and used (and they still are,\nin the Catholic and Orthodox churches).\n\n: On these counts, the apocrapha falls short of the glory of God.\n\nThis is demonstrably false.\n\n: To quote Unger's Bible Dictionary on the Apocrapha:\n: 1. They abound in historical and geographical inaccuracies and\n: anachronisms.\n\nSo do other books of the Bible.\n\n: 2. They teach doctrines which are false and foster practices\n: which are at variance with sacred Scripture.\n\n\"False\" by whose interpretation?  Those churches that accept them find no\ncontradiction with the rest of scripture.  \n\n: 3. They resort to literary types and display an artificiality of\n: subject matter and styling out of keeping with sacred Scripture.\n\nThis is a purely subjective evaluation.  The apocryphal books demonstrate\nthe same categories and forms of writing found in the other scriptures.\n(In fact, one could argue that the apocryphal \"Additions to the Book of\nEsther\" act rather to bring the \"unscripturelike\" book of Esther more into\nline with other books.)\n\n: 4. They lack the distinctive elements which give genuine\n: Scripture their divine character, such as prophetic power and\n: poetic and religious feeling.\n\nHave you ever read the Wisdom of Ben Sira or the Wisdom of Solomon?  They\nexhibit every bit as much \"poetic and religious feeling\" as Psalms or\nProverbs.\n\n[deletions]\n\n: How do you then view the words: \"I warn everyone who  hears the\n: words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to\n: them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.\n: And if anyone takes away from this book the prophecy, God will\n: take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the\n: holy city\" (Rev 22.18-9)\n: Surely this sets the standard and not just man-made traditions.\n\nThese words clearly were meant to refer to the book of Revelation alone,\nnot to the whole body of scripture.  Revelation itself was accepted very\nlate into the canon.  The church simply did not see it as having a primary\nrole of any kind in identifying and limiting scripture.\n\n: It is also noteworthy to consider Jesus' attitude. He had no\n: argument with the pharisees over any of the OT canon (John\n: 10.31-6), and explained to his followers on the road to Emmaus \n: that in the law, prophets and psalms which referred to him - the \n: OT division of Scripture (Luke 24.44), as well as in Luke 11.51\n: taking Genesis to Chronicles (the jewish order - we would say\n: Genesis to Malachi) as Scripture.\n\nJesus does not refer to the canon for the simple reason that in his day,\nthe canon had not been established as a closed collection.  The books\nof the apocrypha were part of the Septuagint (which was the Bible of\nthe early church).  The Hebrew canon was not closed until 90 c.e.\nThe Torah (Pentateuch\/ \"Law\") was established in Jesus' day, as were\nthe Prophets (with the _exclusion_ of Daniel).  The Writings, however,\nwere still in flux.  Jesus does not refer to the Writings, only to the\nPsalms, which were part of them.  The books of the apocrypha were all\npart of the literature that was eventually sifted and separated.\n\nTo argue that Jesus is referring to the Jewish canonical order in Luke 11:51\nis weak at best; he is not quoting scripture, but telling a chronological\nstory.  And, as mentioned above, the Hebrew canon (especially in the\npresent order) did not exist as such in Jesus' day.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nBefore they do some real damage??  You haven't been paying attention, it\nseems.  The so-called War on Drugs has already done major damage to\nthe US Constitution.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Path:\nctron-news.ctron.com!noc.near.net!uunet!utcsri!newsflash.concordia.ca!mi\nizar.cc.umanitoba.ca!access.usask.ca!cs.Usask.CA!coulman\nFrom: coulman@cs.Usask.CA (Randy Coulman)\nNewsgroups: rec.sport.hockey\nSubject: Final Regular Season Individual Goalie Stats\nDate: Wed, 21 Apr 93 12:27:59 EDT\nOrganization: University of Saskatchewan\nLines: 103\nDistribution: world\nMessage-ID: <1r3smf$67m@access.usask.ca>\nReply-To: coulman@cs.Usask.CA\nNNTP-Posting-Host: skorpio.usask.ca\n\nI would appreciate it if someone could volunteer to verify the shots on goal\nand save percentage numbers for me, so I can put these stats on the archive\nsite.  Contact me by mail if you want to volunteer.\n\nHere are the individual goalie stats as of: Wed Apr 21 09:09:38 CST 1993\n\nThese stats include games up to and including the Sunday previous to the date\nlisted above.  They have been verified against what is printed in my newspaper\nevery Tuesday.  They don't print shots and save percentage numbers, so those\nare not verified.  These stats are available by mail every weekday and\nsometimes on weekends, if I'm in town and I can get late game results.  Just\nsend me a note if you would like to receive these stats by mail.\n\nIf you have any questions, comments or suggestions, let me know.\n\nRandy\n\n-------\nMP = Minutes Played, GA = Goals against,\nSO = Shutouts, GAA = Goals against average\nW = Wins, L = Losses, T = Ties\nSOG = Shots on Goal, SV = Save Percentage\n\n MP   GA SO   GAA  W  L  T  SOG   SV  TM Player\n=======================================================\n   1   0  0  0.00  0  0  0    0 1.000 WAS Byron Dafoe\n  11   0  0  0.00  0  0  0    3 1.000 HAR Corrie D'Alessio\n  40   1  0  1.50  0  0  0   19 0.947 MTL Frederick Chabot\n  25   1  0  2.40  0  0  0   10 0.900 BOS Mike Bales\n2781 116  2  2.50 25 15  7 1287 0.910 TOR Felix Potvin\n4106 177  7  2.59 41 18 11 1879 0.906 CHI Ed Belfour\n1322  64  1  2.90  9  8  4  596 0.893 BOS John Blue\n 996  49  2  2.95  6  7  1  414 0.882 CHI Jim Waite\n3702 186  4  3.01 43 14  5 1889 0.902 PIT Tom Barrasso\n3890 196  1  3.02 29 28  9 2194 0.911 STL Curtis Joseph\n1817  94  1  3.10 18  8  4  858 0.890 VAN Kay Whitmore\n1429  75  0  3.15 11 10  4  716 0.895 BUF Dominik Hasek\n3194 168  3  3.16 37 14  3 1354 0.876 BOS Andy Moog\n1311  70  1  3.20 14  4  1  629 0.889 CAL Jeff Reese\n3595 192  2  3.20 31 25  5 1813 0.894 MTL Patrick Roy\n 168   9  0  3.21  1  1  1   87 0.897 HAR Mike Lenarduzzi\n1193  64  0  3.22 13  4  2  522 0.877 DET Vincent Riendeau\n1785  96  2  3.23 17  7  4  938 0.898 TOR Daren Puppa\n3880 210  4  3.25 34 24  7 1898 0.889 DET Tim Cheveldae\n3732 203  2  3.26 29 26  9 1805 0.888 CAL Mike Vernon\n2655 146  1  3.30 22 20  2 1314 0.889 NYI Glenn Healy\n3359 185  1  3.30 24 24  6 1726 0.893 BUF Grant Fuhr\n2757 152  4  3.31 20 18  7 1519 0.900 NYR John Vanbiesbrouck\n3282 181  1  3.31 27 23  5 1531 0.882 WAS Don Beaupre\n3476 193  3  3.33 26 26  5 1683 0.885 MIN Jon Casey\n3261 184  3  3.39 28 21  5 1620 0.886 VAN Kirk McLean\n2672 151  2  3.39 19 21  3 1322 0.886 NJ  Chris Terreri\n1433  81  1  3.39 17  5  1  686 0.882 MTL Andre Racicot\n1939 110  0  3.40 18  9  4  947 0.884 QUE Stephane Fiset\n2512 143  5  3.42 20 17  6 1329 0.892 PHI Tommy Soderstrom\n1368  78  0  3.42 13  7  2  691 0.887 PIT Ken Wregget\n 542  31  0  3.43  5  4  0  225 0.862 BOS Reggie Lemelin\n2988 172  0  3.45 29 16  5 1525 0.887 QUE Ron Hextall\n2253 130  0  3.46 17 15  5 1067 0.878 NYI Mark Fitzpatrick\n3855 227  2  3.53 33 26  6 2119 0.893 WIN Bob Essensa\n1601  96  0  3.60 15 10  2  777 0.876 WIN Jim Hrivnak\n1596  97  1  3.65 10 12  5  803 0.879 MIN Darcy Wakaluk\n1591  97  0  3.66  7 19  2  757 0.872 TB  Wendell Young\n1163  71  0  3.66  8 10  1  573 0.876 TB  JC Bergeron\n2389 146  2  3.67 21 16  4 1180 0.876 NJ  Craig Billington\n1210  74  1  3.67  8  8  2  628 0.882 STL Guy Hebert\n1302  80  2  3.69  8 12  0  664 0.880 WAS Rick Tabaracci\n 664  41  0  3.70  5  6  0  344 0.881 BUF Tom Draper\n 224  14  0  3.75  1  2  1  116 0.879 NYR Corey Hirsch\n1769 111  1  3.76 13 11  5  932 0.881 PHI Dominic Roussel\n2105 134  1  3.82 13 19  3 1184 0.887 NYR Mike Richter\n 157  10  0  3.82  1  2  0   78 0.872 NYI Danny Lorenz\n3753 240  1  3.84 17 38  6 2069 0.884 EDM Bill Ranford\n1735 111  0  3.84 15  8  4  987 0.888 LA  Robb Stauber\n2718 175  2  3.86 18 21  6 1545 0.887 LA  Kelly Hrudey\n 154  10  0  3.90  0  2  1   66 0.848 QUE Jacques Cloutier\n 867  57  0  3.94  5  9  1  499 0.886 HAR Mario Gosselin\n 532  35  0  3.95  6  4  0  294 0.881 LA  Rick Knickle\n2268 150  1  3.97  8 24  4 1197 0.875 TB  Pat Jablonski\n2074 142  1  4.11  7 26  0 1250 0.886 SJ  Arturs Irbe\n2656 184  0  4.16 16 27  3 1470 0.875 HAR Sean Burke\n1338  93  0  4.17  9 12  2  763 0.878 EDM Ron Tugnutt\n1326  95  0  4.30  2 17  1  743 0.872 OTT Daniel Berthiaume\n 802  59  0  4.41  3  9  0  405 0.854 PHI Stephane Beauregard\n3388 250  0  4.43  8 46  3 1711 0.854 OTT Peter Sidorkiewicz\n  65   5  0  4.62  0  0  1   39 0.872 CAL Andrei Trefilov\n1373 111  0  4.85  4 15  1  784 0.858 HAR Frank Pietrangelo\n  73   6  0  4.93  0  0  1   34 0.824 WIN Mike O'Neill\n  60   5  0  5.00  0  1  0   46 0.891 SJ  Wade Flaherty\n2000 176  0  5.28  2 30  1 1220 0.856 SJ  Jeff Hackett\n 930  86  0  5.55  2 14  1  559 0.846 SJ  Brian Hayward\n 160  15  0  5.63  0  3  0   91 0.835 TOR Rick Wamsley\n  20   2  0  6.00  0  0  0    7 0.714 WAS Olaf Kolzig\n  90  10  0  6.67  0  2  0   44 0.773 OTT Darrin Madeley\n 249  30  0  7.23  0  5  0  146 0.795 OTT Steve Weeks\n  98  13  0  7.96  0  2  0   51 0.745 LA  David Goverde\n  45   7  0  9.33  0  1  0   21 0.667 TB  David Littman\n\n-- \nRandy A. Coulman, M.Sc.         |       ARIES Laboratory\nResearch Assistant              |       Department of Computational Science\n                                |       University of Saskatchewan\ncoulman@cs.Usask.ca             |       Saskatoon, SK   S7N 0W0             \n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nThere are several types of copy protection, and the point is to make sure the\nuser is using a legitimate copy.  The simplest and virtually fool-proof way is\nfor the program to somehow fixate itself to the machine it was installed on\n(some sort of checksum, serial number, whatever) so a copy put on a different\nmachine (NOT installed from original disks) will not work.  \n\nThe program is definitely backupable, if restored to the same machine (depends\non the programmer...  don't use a disk drive characteristic!)  If the user \ndid an upgrade to the machine, he\/she should reinstall all programs any way.\nNo document look-up, no disk wear-and-tear!\n\nI did not say that the originals would allow only one install.  The user's \nconscience should do that.\n\nI know, I'll get flamed for this...  But with the increasing number of \"casual\"\nusers who either unknowingly or don't care about the software copyrights\n(It's the truth.  I have \"friends\" who ask me for copies of my latest games\nall the time, and when I refused, they went after somebody else.), casual\npirating is becoming more of a problem.  Some sort of copy protection will\ndiscourage the casual copying.  I've seen what some of my \"friends\" dug up\nsomewhere...  Latest and the greatest games, all cracked, WITHIN days of actual\nrelease!  You know how many bytes you need to change in X-wing to disable\nthe quiz?  TWO!  Yes, TWO!  (And don't ask me which ones they are.)  Determined\npirates are unstoppable, given enough time, but their results do not spread \nthat far, since pirate boards are not that well-known, and easily tracked once\nfound by authorities.  It is the \"casual\" pirates that the copy protection is\ndetermined to discourage.\n\nWhat I believe the companies should do is implement the above plus\na special patch once the user registers that loudly exclaims upon bootup\n\"REGISTERED TO XXXXX -- address, city, state zip\" and disables the above.\nTwo benefits: 1) encourages registration, 2) cuts down on pirating and\nmakes it more traceable, because if the patch's registration message is\nencrypted, it will be quite hard to change, and therefore provides a\nstable trail of who allowed their copy out of their hands, and thus\nviolated their license agreement.\n\nThis way, the legitimate users who does not register will experience minimal \ndiscomfort (who does major upgrades to their computer frequently?) as only\nproblem they have is they won't be able to restore to another computer.\n\nThe registered users would have proven they are legitmate users and therefore\ngains full rights, and can restore to different machines.  On the other hand,\nthe software company now have a record of where THIS particular copy is \nsupposed to be.  If this user's copy was found to be somewhere it was not \nsupposed to be, we know who has broken their license agreement.  Of course,\na hacker can break that eventually, but that's not the point, is it?","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nThat includes suicides.  Since it has been shown in other countries that\nsuicide rates are pretty much independent of the means available for\ndoing oneself in (studies include some done\/published in Japan, Canada,\nAustria, Norway), suicides ought not be included in the count.\n\nIf this is done, the number of vehicle-related deaths greatly exceeds that\nof firearms-related deaths in Texas.\n\n\nCertainly not.\n\n\nWhy?  Unless it's doing something that directly hurts someone else, what's\nthe point?  (Otherwise, you'd better stop operating all motor vehicles, since\nthe price of operating them *greatly* exceeds the cost in lives of firearms.\n\n\nWEll, it's been done at least twice.  South (North?) Carolina did it a few\nyears back...and watched its crime rate relative to the rest of the country\nrise quite a bit.\n\nVirginia just passed the law...no word yet on what the results will be, but\nI'd be willing ot bet that a reduction in crime rates won't be one of them.\n\n\nSelf-defense doesn't \"inflict\" on other people (except perhaps the criminal\nwho's tried to do you damage, and maybe indirectly on future potential victims\nwho might not become victims).\n\n\n\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Ever since Craig Rowland posted his piece \"New Encryption\"\nto sci.crypt there has been some discussion of our company,\nSecured Communications Technologies, Inc, and on encryption\nalgorithm, NEA.\n     I spoke to Craig at length on 4\/21\/93 and we covered a lot\nof ground.  Some of the information in the posting requires some\nclarification, and I would like to answer some of the questions\nraised on sci.crypt.\n     SCT is a small company based in Silver Spring Maryland.  Our\ntwo main products at this time are a PC based secure\ncommunications program called SECOM and a general purpose\nencryption chip which uses the NEA algorithm developed for SECOM.\n     SECOM provides an encrypted secure communication link\nbetween two PC's connected over dial up telephone lines.  It\nsupports simultaneous bi-directional file transfer and keyboard\nto screen \"chat\".  It has its own proprietary communications\nprotocol which is tightly integrated to the encryption.  All\nthough it is a packetized link, the data stream appears to be\ncontinuous because the packet boundaries are hidden.\n     When SECOM was initially developed, it was implemented to\nuse DES encryption.  A business decision was made to seek export\napproval for the product because it was perceived that the\noverseas market was a large one and provided a good marketing\nopportunity.\n     We soon found out that we would NEVER be granted general\nexport approval for anything using DES.  All though the reason\nfor this was never explicitly stated, it seems to have something\nto do with secret government to government agreements which are\nstill in effect.\n     In any event, the decision was made to develop a new and\ndifferent algorithm which would take the place of DES.  This was\nthe reason NEA (New Encryption Algorithm) was born.\n     At this time NEA is being held as a trade secret.  The\npreliminary work of patenting it has begun, and the plan is to\nmake it public once the patent process is complete.  All though\none can make certain legal arguments for keeping it an ongoing\nsecret, I think in the case of an encryption algorithm it is\nnecessary to let people \"shoot at it\" over an extended period of\ntime to prove its worth.\n     In order to get export approval for SECOM\/NEA, it was\nnecessary to go through NSA and to reveal to them the details of\nthe program and algorithm.  This was done only AFTER we had a\nfinished product to submit.\n     Let me state unequivocally that there is NO \"back door\" to\nthe program or the algorithm.  Secured Communications\nTechnologies is a closely held private company and\nNSA\/FBI\/CIA\/NIST\/WHATEVER has NO financial interest in any way\nwhatsoever with the company or any of the people involved.\n     From a practical business standpoint, we are interested in\nselling chips and software (hopefully in large quantities) and a\nback door to the encryption, if found out, could destroy our\ncredibility and our business.\n     With the encryption algorithm approved for export, we set\nout to talk to a number of potential customers for encryption\nproducts and systems.  We were able to identify several common\nthreads of functionality requirements.  This led to the design of\na chip with the encryption algorithm \"cast in silicon\" and\ncertain other capabilities added so that the chip could fulfill\nthe broad range of requirements that we identified.\n     We are strongly opposed to the clipper\/capstone chips.  In a\npress release today, our president, Dr. Stephen Bryen stated:\n\n          \"It seems as if the government has an unlimited source\n     of funds to use to push its new bugged chips on the American\n     Public.  But do we not understand how the National Security\n     Agency, which is not supposed to be involved in domestic\n     spying, can fund the development of a commercial chip\n     intended to accommodate U.S. government domestic spying\n     activities.\"","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nAre you so ignorant that you have never heard of _Archaeopteryx_?\n\n\nThe special creation \"theory\" is nothing but holes. Please show me a\nspecies poofed into existence by your god. I have never seen this.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\tI'll go with Mark Grace, and in 2 years, Frank Thomas.\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Comments about \"who needs backup copies\"?  and \"YOU do\" deleted....\n\nI'll toss in my 2 cents worth - I've begun to think that distribution\ndisks are made on some of the least reliable floppy disk stocks available.\nWe've been especially plagued by Borland's distribution disks.  I'm \nlucky if I can install from them as many as 3 times before they crap \nout on me.  So definitely, as a matter of course we ALWAYS make copies\nto do our installations with.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Thinking of buying from MidWest Micro of Ohio? Think *very* carefully.\nUnless you are absolutely sure you won't have any problems, you may want\nto trade elsewhere.\n\nDespite the fact that they answer the phone, \"Hi! I'm <whoever> and we're\nhaving a GREAT Day!\", they weren't quite so happy when I wanted to return\na modem that didn't work as I expected it to.\n\nThe details:\n\nI ordered one of their house brand \"Infotel\" 14.4\/DF internal FAX modems.\nIn reality, it was a Twincom Lightning FAX that had a paper sticker over\nthe name. Given the poor reports on the net about this modem, I would not\nhave ordered it, had I known this in advance.\n\nIt arrived on time. The documentation stated that it would work (and was\npreconfigured) as COM4, providing that COM2 was not in use at the same time.\n\nFor several reasons, I have a serial card configured for COM1\/COM2. At the\ntime I installed the modem, nothing was connected to COM2.\n\nAlthough the modem appeared to work, during every connection at 9600 or\n14.4, it would randomly break the connection and hang up the phone. After\nspending some time on the phone with MidWest's tech support, they suggested\ndisabling the COM2 port.\n\nThis appeared to solve the disconnect problem, but was an unacceptable long\nterm solution. I had to have COM1 and 2 available, even though they both\nwould not be in use at the same time as the modem.\n\nI called back 20 minutes prior to their closing and waited in Voicemail \nhell, listening to repeated advertisements for MidWest Micro products. I \nwas then promptly disconnected. Apparently it was quiting time and they \ndidn't want to be bothered with callers that had been waiting on the line.\n\nI called the next day and asked the Customer Diservice agent for an RMA\nnumber. She promptly switched me to a \"Tech Support\" rep that implied that\nit was my equipment at fault and that he wasn't going to give me an RMA\nnumber. He suggested I use some nonstandard IRQ settings, a solution I\nwas not happy with. The modem should work as originally configured.\n\nConclusion:\n\nI'm not sure the modem would work ok in a basic system, but it clearly does\nnot work in a multi port system like mine. Since my time is worth more \nthan the aggravation or the cost of the modem, I gave it to a local\ncharitable organization (with a description of my problem) and ordered\na Practical Peripherals 14.4MT from PC Connection.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I am interested in finding other Physical Therapy Students on the\nnet...If you are one, or you know anyone could you get into contact\nwith me via email, my address is\n\ngecko@camelot.bradley.edu\n\n\n\t\t\t\tthankyou","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nI wouldn't punish him with eternal torture if he didn't love me. But then\nI;m a decent chap. It seems your god isn't.\n\n\nI've looked, and he wasn't. Another promise broken.\n\n\nLying bastard! How  do you know what effort I have and have not given? \n\n\nCan anyone eaplain what he's just said here?\n\nPeter","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n[stuff deleted]\n\n\n\nThe last year before Bryan Murray took over, the Wings did not make the\nplayoffs.  While they had been considered a possible contender when Jacques\nDemers first arrived, in his last two years they were, respectively,\nembarrassed in the first round by Chicago, and then failed to make the \nplayoffs (at a time, a might add, when there were only five teams in the\nNorris).\n\nIt's true that Vancouver did not make the playoffs for many a year before \nQuinn came, but in those years the Smythe Division was a lot--I mean *a lot*--\ntougher division than the Norris, also known as the \"Snorris\", division.\nVancouver had to play Edmonton and Calgary, both very legitimate Stanley\nCup contenders, eight times a year, while Detroit got to play such \npowerhouses as Toronto and Minnesota.  Now, Edmonton is hardly even a force\nin the league, and the Smythe even has the mighty San Jose sharks, while\nover this same period of time in which Vancouver was improving, so was \neverybody in the Norris (except St. Louis).  Detroit had to improve just\nto keep up with the competition in their division.  They had to improve *a\nlot* to get better than their competition in the Norris.\n\nBryan Murray inherited a team with very little talent.  For really good\nplayers, they had Yzerman, Burr, and Probert, and that was about it.  (And\nno doubt some will dispute whether Burr and Probert were that good). The\nrest were either very green rookies or washed up veterans.  The only reason\nthey got as far as they did in the years before Murray came was due to the\ncoaching of Demers, who, at least at first, got every last ounce of effort\npossible out of his team.  Then, even his coaching began to degrade.\n\n\nThere are a number of reasons why Detroit wasn't in as bad a shape standings\nwise when Murray took over as Vanc. was when Quinn took over, some of which\nI outlined above, but Murray did not have any better personnel to work with\nat the outset than did Quinn, with the exception of Yzerman.  And one player\ncannot alone make a team into a Stanley Cup contender, as I'm sure everyone\nreading this will agree.  \n\nWe'll be able to see better which team is really the most improved when they\nface each other in the conference final (assuming they don't get knocked out,\nlike last year).\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"You should probably use numbers much larger than 64-bits.  Also, you\nmay want to include some randomly-generated bitstrings in your protocol.\nThis way, if someone should find the shared key you and another person\nuse on one day, they won't be able to guess it for the next day....\n \n   Ie A sends G**A mod P and random string R0\n      B sends G**B mod P and random string R1\n \n      Both find (G**A mod P)** B mod P = Shared Key, then both calculate\n \n      Session Key = Hash(R0,Shared Key, R1)\n \n   Also, you will want to make sure that you're getting the right public\nkey value G**A mod P.  Someone with the power to intercept and change messages\ncan oterwise spoof you by sending both of you *his* public key, and then\nacquiring a session key with each of you....","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"For Sale in Northern Virgina\n\n                     Arcade Video Games\n\n                     Asteroids     $200\n                     Omega Race    $300","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nGenerally I agree with you. However, (1) last night ESPN cut away to Baseball\nTonite, which looks like SportsCenter tailored to baseball, and they cut\naway at 7:40 pacific. That's quite a contract they have there. (2) if\nESPN couldn't deliver, they should have had a transistion plan to\nlet SportsChannel pick up the slack.\n\nNonetheless, it is ultimately the fault of the US-American public that regular\nseason baseball has precedence over playoff hockey in the U.S.\nSupport your team; support your game.\n\nSomebody in r.s.h. had an excellent idea that we should write Chrysler\nto thank them for supporting hockey with their ads and that we would\nconsider their products. Here's an equally excellent idea, watch\nbaseball for 10 minutes (I know I'm asking a lot, but that's what spew\nbags are for), write down who is advertising, and write them letters\ncomplaining that they are supporting baseball to your displeasure and\nthat you won't consider buying their products because of it.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":":In article <enea1-270493135255@enea.apple.com>\n:>Can anyone out there tell me the difference between a \"persistent\" disease\n:>and a \"chronic\" one? For example, persistent hepatitis vs chronic\n:>hepatitis.\n:\n:I don't think there is a general distinction.  Rather, there are\n:two classes of chronic hepatitis: chronic active hepatitis and chronic\n:persistent hepatitis.  I can't think of any other disease where the\n:term persistent is used with or in preference to chronic.\n:\n:Much as these two terms \"chronic active\" and \"chronic persistent\"\n:sound fuzzy, the actual distinction between the two conditions\n:is often fairly fuzzy as well.\n\nI beg to differ.  Chronic *active* hepatitis implies that the disease\nremains active, and generally leads to liver failure.  At the very\nminimum, the patient has persistently elevated liver enzymes (what some\ncall \"transaminitis\").  Chronic *persistant* hepatitis simply means that\nthe patient has HbSag in his\/her blood and can transmit the infection, but\nshows no evidence of progressive disease.  If I had to choose, I'd much\nrather have the persistant type.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"The subject says nearly everything;\nI am talking about the accellerator card (note the 'X'), not about\nthe ET4000 product (without 'X').\n\nPlease mail me the address of an appropriate ftp-server.\n\nThanx:","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"actually \nclock, \nphone \n24 hours \ncould call \nfrom \nmore \nlights \ndinner ","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nThat is not true, with chosen plaintext attacks DES keys can be determined\nwithout the full search.\n\n\nI am not willing to take that bet.\n\n\nYou can obviously shove arbitrary data through your chip......\nAs for the key, it is stated that the sesion key exchange is external to\nthe chip, so I can pick my keys too.\n\n\nBING BING BING BING BING, THAT EXACTLY MY POINT, SINCE WE CANT KNOW THAT\nTHEY DO NOT HAVE THIS CAPABILITY, THE ONLY SAFE ASSUMPTION IS THAT THEY\nDO... i admit that most of my cryptographic complaints are probably\nunfounded, but since we cant know one way or the other, im not gonig to\ntake their word for it....\n\n\nOh come on, thats like saying you could evaluate DES without the S-box\nconstants.....","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nCompuServe is in Columbus, OH.  So are the corporate headquarters of several \nmajor insurance companies, the largest private R&D company in the world \n(Batelle Memorial Institute), DCSC (The Defense Construction & Supply \nCenter), Ohio State University (one of the three largest US universities), \nOCLC (the Online College Library Center), and so on.  You'd be amazed, \nactually.\n\nColumbus only *looks* like a cow town.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I have a few questions that I would like answers to \n(or opinions on) since I'm thinking about buying a LC-III:\n\nQ1) When the PowerPC-based Macs are announced, what will\nhappen to the 680X0-based Macs?  \n\nQ2) Is System 7 the 'last word' for 680X0-based Macs? \nWill we ever get REAL multi-tasking for the Mac?\n\nQ3) Will there be a way for NuBUS\/PDS-equipped Macs to add \na PowerPC-on-a-board to their systems?\n\nI'd hate to think that I'm going to put my $$ down\non a machine that in 6 months is now part of a\ndead-end product line!\n\nThanks in advance,","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I have both an '84 and an '86 Camry, each with manual 5-speed transmissions.\nThe '84 has about 105,000 miles on it and the '86 about 83,000 miles.  ABout\na year ago I found that the master cylinder on the clutch in the '84 was        \nleaking fluid around the piston seal, leading to air in the system and fluid\nback into the passenger compartment of the car.  I pulled the plunger and\ngot a rebuild kit (new plunger, seal, etc.) and thought I had the problem\nlicked.  Much to my surprise, the same problem developed several months\nlater!  This time I looked carefully at the master cylinder to make sure\nthere were no scratches, burrs, or other obvious causes of the problem.  I\ndidn't find any.  Ever since I have been periodically feeding the clutch\nhydraulins additional fluid and bleeding air from the system.  I knew I\nwould be selling the car and didn't want to go all the way to solving the\nproblem.\n\nI should add that the clutch is original, and that I've had to adjust the\npedal to allow maximum extension of the piston into the master cylinder in\norder to actuate the clutch.\n\nMy hypothesis is that this means that when fully depressing the clutch pedal,\nthe angle of the piston rod (attached to the pedal) is off the axix of the\ncylinder, thus cocking the piston and seal and perhaps deforming it.\n\nWhat do you think of that as an explanation?  Can you suggest a possible fix\nshort of replacing the master cylinder and getting a new clutch put in?\n\nNow the '86: same problem, except that the above diagnosis doesn't explain\nwhy all of the fluid leaked out (by way of the master cylinder, into the\npassenger compartment) while I was on vacation for 10 days, during which\nthe clutch pedal was not depressed or otherwise caused to distort.  What\ncan you suggest here?\n\nMany thanks.  Let's hope I don't end up going to Click and Clack on this...","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Hey guys, who is this Jack Morris fella ??????\n\n\n\n\n \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nONLY JOKING !!!!! But try to lighten up will ya ? The season's only just \nstarted and everyone's apoplectic. If all you statheads out there are trying to\njustify how Morris is doing at the moment, just remember that we're talking\nabout a very small sample size. There is a helluva long way to go, so sit back\nand enjoy the ride.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nApple and several other manufacturers have already committed to a monitor\ndesign that does just that.  It was announced along with the new \nadministration's efforts to cut waste and fuel consumption.  I know that\nin the buildings where I work, gigawatts are wasted by unused, always-on\nmachines and monitors.\n\n-Kelley-\n-- \n-----------------------------------------------------------------\nThomas Kelley Boylan, PowerPC, IBM Austin, kelleyb@austin.ibm.com","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\tYou are absolutely correct.  Braves fans are nothing but a bunch of\nbandwagoners.  Correct me if I am wrong, but 4 or 5 years ago you couldnt give\naway a ticket to see the Braves play.I  would bet my next paycheck that 80% of\nthe so-called Braves fans living outside of Georgia at the present time can not\nname more than 3 players from their 1988 season. On the other hand, ask any\nCubs fan living anywhere in the United States to name 3 players from any given\nyear and 80% of them probably could.\n\tGranted, the fact that a team wins brings people to the ball park, but\nthat does not mean they diserve the title \"America's Team\"\n\tThe only reason they are considered America's team is because of Ted\nTurner and his little TV station which broadcasts across the nation.\n\tI'll consider Toronto AMerica's team before the Braves\n\n\n\tGO REDS!\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"It's been a while since I've reviewed a car but today I paid a visit\nto an old friend whose love for Audis has been so overwhelming that he\nmakes a not too sucessful living selling them.\n\nWithout further delay, I will get to the 1993 Audi S4:\n\n\n1) Servotronic steering:\n\n[For those who are not familiar with what Servotronic is, it is the\nname for the speed variable power steering manufactured by ZF and\nused in Audis and BMWs.]\n\nI have been outspoken in my damming of Servotronic over the past\ncouple of months, and this was based on magazine reviews and drives of\nthe Audi 90 CS quattro and the Audi 100CS fwd.  I am quite happy to\nreport now that on the S4, the Servotronic is *inoffensive*.  I\nsuppose that due to the fat gumball tires, the Servotronic has been\nloaded up more and this, so far has been the best implementation that\nI have tried.  It is far from perfect, mind you, and I'd be much\nhappier if it was an option that I could refuse, but on the S4, I no\nlonger consider this to be bad enough where I feel the entire car is\nruined.\n\nThe steering is still a tad too light, but it is accurate and I\nsuppose the stiffly sprung chassis sends back so much information that\nsome makes it through to the driver's hands.  So there is feel and\nthere is accuracy in the S4's steering.  But there is also room for\nimprovement.  I consider the S4's steering to be better than the\nJapanese competition, primarily because the Japanese do not believe in\n\"feel\" and engineer it out completely.\n\n\n2) Engine\n\nWheee! What a pressure cooker.  With just 110 miles on the clock I did\nnot expect the S4 to be producing anywhere close to what it will be\nputting out 10000 miles later, but still, the car packs a terrific\npunch.  For a turbocharged machine, it is very unusual in that it\nencourages lazy driving.  i.e. low revs, high gear.  It is so\nsupremely flexible that one could hardly believe that there's only 2.2\nliters of displacement to move this 3700 pound car around in such a\nfashion.  With maximum torque available at 1950 rpm and a 7200 rpm\nredline, the car can pretty much be left in third all day.. which\ntranslates to a speed range of something like 20-100 mph.  A\nchracteristic that one normally associates with large capacity V8s.\nThe technical achievement is breadthtaking.\n\nThrottle response is right up there with a good atmospheric engine. In\nfact, it would even put peaky multivalve engines to shame. Downshifts\nare almost unnecessary.  It is more fun to use the \"overboost\" feature\nthan to rev the engine.  For those not familiar, the S4 engine features\nup to 15 seconds of additional turbo boost for passing.  Sort of like\nlighting up the after burners in a jet fighter, one could, with the\nright foot only, in third gear, blast the car from 30 to 80 in just a\nfew moments.. simply by flooring the gas.  As far as the numbers go,\nmaximum torque available in overboost mode shoots up to about 270 lb\nft.. incredible for a 2.2 liter.  It takes a few moments for it to\ndevelop overboost but it is well worth waiting for.  Since this is quite\na heavy car, one's body parts are not flung around like say, the Corrado\nVR6.  The acceleration is smooth and strong, somewhat similar to riding\nin a jetliner as it accelerates down the runway on takeoff.  Also, one\nis treated to a very distinctive and entertaining whistle from the\nturbo.. the only entertaining sound to come out of a very\nrefined but bland sounding 5 banger..\n\nYes, Audi has refined the 5 to the point where at 7200 rpm it sounds as\nserene as it does at 2000.  The smoothness is outstanding, but not quite\nup to the standards of a very good 6, e.g. a 12 valve BMW.  I'd say that\nin terms of refinement, i.e. willingness to rev, smoothness, lack of\nharshness under full acceleration it is better than many V6s.  However,\nlost in the refinement process is the characteristic 5 cylinder bark\nthat made the older engines so characterful, if not terribly refined.\nThe 20 valve turbo 5 sounds pretty bland except for the whistle under\nfull boost.  Subjectively, I'd rate the VW VR6 engine as being far more\nmusical than the turbo 5.. Also, Audi's own V8 is also far more musical,\nwith a rorty race car growl when pressed,  though none of these can\nmatch its grunt.\n\nThe only hint of the engine's true capacity occurs when one is taking\noff from rest after the turbo has come to a near stop.  With the extra\ninertia from the permanently engaged 4wd system, one has to be somewhat\ndelicate in feeding in the clutch to prevent an embarassing stall. \nAlternately one could use more revs.. In both cases a very small price\nto pay for such a fantastic engine.  I think that Audi of America should\noffer an automatic option for this car, just as they offer (though in\nextremely small numbers) a 5 speed for the much peakier V8.  The\ncharacteristics of the engine are perfect for an automatic.  Ironically,\nin europe a slush is available but none is offered for the land of the\nslush.  Marketing twits rearing their ugly heads again...\n\n\n3) Chassis\n\nI've noticed that Audis tend to have very wide wheels and relatively\nmodest tire widths.  The car comes with Firestones of size 225\/50 ZR16..\nwhich is not uncommon at all.  However, the very attractive 5 spoke\nwheels are no less than 8 inches wide, so there is no sidewall bulge\nwhatsoever.  Combined with the flared wheel arches, the S4 has a mouth\nwatering macho, yet subdued look. \n\nOn rough concrete, it becomes immediately clear that the new 100 body\nstyle has made significant advances in structural rigidity as well as\nroad noise suppression.. I suppose the two are inter-related, but I\ndigress.  To use a cliche, the S4's body feels like it has been carved\nout of stone.  Flex is totally undetectable, even when going over rough\nroads.  With a super rigid body like this stiff springs and stiff dampers\ndo not cause excessive harshness and while the S4's ride quality will\nnever worry a Lexus, it will also not draw comparisons to trucks or\npony cars.\n\nThe servotronic steering has already been mentioned.  I consider it to\nbe inoffensive because it did not inhibit spirited cornering.  I  was\nable to test the car's cornering powers without too much trepidation. I\nthink a new concept is at work in this car.  With its fat gumball tires,\ntalking about understeer or oversteer is practically meaningless.  On a\nbanked highway on ramp, I went in slow and started applying power as I\nwent around.  I could feel the g forces build to the point where the\nskin on my face was being tugged sideways.  Yet the car was totally and\ncompletely obedient to throttle and steering inputs.. It felt that the\nlimits were not even close to being approached.  The g forces were\nthrilling, but the entire affair of going around a curve is strangely\nuninvolving.  You tell the car what you want and it does it.  End of\nstory.  I think that I am starting to relate more and more to those\nreviewers who were highly impressed by the Honda NSX's clinical\nefficiency but were unable to fall in love with the car.\n\nThe brakes have a very good firmness to them and stop the car pretty\nwell too, though I've read that they are prone to fade.  I am not too\nsurprised, since the S4 does not have uprated brakes over the base Audi\n100 fwd. Harder pads would help, but that in turn would lead to a more\nwooden response when cold.  I am starting to see a trend among the\nluxury\/sports sedan makers where extra weight is not being offset by\nadditional braking capacity.  The LS400's fade performance is nothing to\nbrag about; neither is the Q45's or the Legend's.  Brake fade these days\nseem to be a forgotten virtue when everybody's attention is focused on\nanti-lock capability.\n\n\n4) Comfort\n\nFor a car with such sporty abilities, its comfort levels are also\nexcellent.  The cabin is beautifully appointed, with carbon-fiber panel\ninserts in place of the wood trim of the '92 S4.  All the expected\ngizmos are there.. heated seats, power seats, seat memory, power this\nand that.  The glaring ommision was the trip computer, which was removed\nbecause Audi hasn't gotten it to work reliably yet.. That means that the\ncar has no boost gauge.  A real disappointment taking into account how\nmuch the turbo dominates its performance.  \n\nUnusual for the germans, the S4 comes with a Honda style moonroof, as\nwell as the very intelligent dial-a-sunroof-position rotary switch.\n\nNoise levels, including engine and tire noise is so low that I wouldn't\nconsider the Lexus' advantage in this area to be significant enough\nto sway a potential buyer.\n\n\n5) Conclusion\n\nEven though few will be able to afford an Audi S4 at its sticker price\nof $48K, the car is a bargain if one takes into account what it has to\noffer over the competition.  The 20 valve turbo 5 is a real gem, even if\nit doesn't produce Ferrari sounds.  No other luxury\/sports sedan maker\noffers the utter security of quattro all wheel drive, which to some is\nworth the extra money all by itself.  The safety features are also \ntop notch.. 1994 side impact standard compliant, the very elegant \nautomatic seat belt tensioners and the dual airbags.  The 100 series\nAudis have been outstanding in government crash tests.  It gets my\nthumbs up for being so overwhelmingly capable rather than being\nall out exciting and intoxicating.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":":All right, listen up....  What are the possibilities of transmission through\n:swimming pool water?  Especially if the chlorination isn't up to par?\n:\n:I've heard of community swimming pools refered to as PUBLIC URINALS so what\n:else is going on?\n\nNo dice.  As soon as the sperm cells hit the water they would virtually\nexplode.  The inside of the cell is hypertonic, and since the membrane is\nsemipermeable water would rush in and cause the cell to burst.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nIndeed, the sky doesn't look much like a black body if you look carefully\nenough; in particular, its temperature at radio frequencies is quite a\nbit higher than you would see from a black body.  Morgan&Gordon's fat\n\"Communications Satellite Handbook\" has a graph of sky temperature vs.\nwavelength, in fact, for communications design.\n\nHowever, in terms of energy content, the RF frequencies are negligible.\nFor thermal purposes, at very large distances from the Sun the sky\nlooks like a black body at 3.5K (Allen, \"Astrophysical Quantities\").\nI haven't found a number for non-large distances, since solar radiation\ntends to be something you can't just ignore :-), but M&G says \"about 4K\"\nin a brief discussion of why solar radiation dominates the problem.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Simple !!  Look for VESA drivers in VPIC 6.0e package !!\nMany SVGA card supported. Look for it on your favorite BBS.\n\n--\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nNot tonight honey, i just received my Nuvotel :-]\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nUh, no. These burst detectors are just that, burst detectors.\nThey have no angular resolution.\n\nNow a network of burst detectors could have angular resolution,\nbut we do not have a decent set of different networks at the distances\nneccesary from each other to determine if they're happening in the oort\ncloud or not.\n\nWe have one network, and trying to make two networks out of it\ndegrades what angular resolution we have.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Why is the NT tossed out as info on Jesus.  I realize it is normally tossed\nout because it contains miracles, but what are the other reasons?\n\nMAC\n--\n****************************************************************\n                                                    Michael A. Cobb\n \"...and I won't raise taxes on the middle     University of Illinois\n    class to pay for my programs.\"                 Champaign-Urbana\n          -Bill Clinton 3rd Debate             cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nIf any reliance was put on women's \"mothering instinct\" in an official\nexplanation of a govt. action during a Republican administration, would\nit generate so few complaints?  (as opposed to complaints about the action\nitself)\n\n--\n\"Spending programs are now 'investments,' taxes are 'contributions,' and \nthese are the same people who say _I_ need a dictionary?\"  - Dan Quayle 2\/19\/93","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Recently I've come upon a body of literature which promotes colon\ncleansing as a vital aid to preventive medicine through nutrition.  In\nparticular, Dr. Bernard Jenssen in his book \"Colon Cleansing for\nHealth and Longevity\" -- the title actually escapes me, but it is very\nsimilar to that -- claims that regular self-administered colonics,\nalong with certain orally ingested \"debris-loosening agents\", boosts\nthe immune system to a significant degree.\n\nHe also plugs a unique appliance called the \"Colema Board\", which\nfacilitates the self-administration of colonics.  It sells for over\n$100 from a California-based company.  He also plugs Vitra-Tox\nproducts as his chemical agents of choice: these include volcanic ash,\nsupposedly for its electrical charge, and psyllium powder, for its\nbulkiness.\n\nIf anyone knows anything about colon cleansing theory, its\nparticulars, or the Colema Board and related products, I'd be very\ninterested to hear about research and personal experience.\n\nThis article is crossposted to alt.magick as the issue touches upon\nfasting and cleansing through a \"ritual\" system of purification.\n\n-- Eli\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"consistently\n\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nThis presupposes that no supersonic ramjet aircraft\/spacecraft can be reliable\nor low-cost.  This is unproven.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Sony CCD-V9  8mm Camcorder\n\nOriginally bought for $1200  now only $399\n\nOriginal Box & All Accesories.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nThe best thing to do is leave it, it will work its own way out to the surface.\nAnything you stick up there to try and clean it is just going to push the wax\nup against your eardrum and pack it on there solid, thus impairing your\nhearing .","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nNote that \"scientific evidence\" in this area does not prove any conclusions.\nThere has been evidence to suggest that a certain part of homosexual's\nbrains are different from heterosexuals- but that proves very little.\n\nAlso notice that the apostles did not have with them the \"scientific\nevidence\" linking certain genes with alcoholism, or stealing with certain\ngenetic problems.  Even if they did have scientific evidence, I doubt it\nwould have stopped them from communicating the teaching from the Holy \nSpirit that these things are sinful.\n\nThis reminds me of a conversation with a professor of mine.  He said \nsomething very true.  Christianity teaches that we should not give in\nto our every inclination.  Most people do give in to their leanings.\nIn Christianity, we have the concept of struggling with the flesh,\nand bringing it into submission.  One person may have a problem with\nhis temper, and having a murderous heart, another may have a problem\nwith homosexuality, another may be inclined to greed.  But God offers\nus the opportunity to be more than conquerers.\n\n\nThe preying mantis bites the head off of her mate after she mates\nwith him.  Is it natural for a woman to do the same thing to her husband?\nThe Bible is concerned with human morality, and only touches on animal\nmorality as it relates to humans.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nYes, it does.\nAll the equipment has to have that Telekom approval number to be\nlegal.\nWhat has changed is that you can buy the equipment somewhere else.\nI'm pretty sure the same holds true in Sweden (at least when I read\nsome information on it about tweo years ago).\nAnd BTW I do know that most of the lines in Sweden can handle tone-dialing,\njust don't be sure that all can.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nFunny you should mention. That's the whole point 'paliks' invariably miss. \n\n\nSource: 'United Nations, Human Development Report,' 1990.\n\nAnnual Output Per Person in Dollars Adjusted to Purchasing Power\nParity: Turkiye, Greece and Chile are in the same category. That\nis, $3,000 - $5,999. \n\n\nSource: 'International Economics: Theory and Policy' by Paul R.\n        Krugman and Maurice Obstfeld, Harper Collins Publishers,\n        1991, (second edition).\n\nIn terms of 'Annual Output Per Person in Dollars Adjusted to \nPurchasing Power Parity,' Greece is in the same category with \nTurkiye.\n\n\nIndeed, Greek Governments have enormous problems to tackle. The \neconomy is in shambles, corruption is rampant, air pollution is \nin outrageous dimensions, state-sponsored terrorism is the name \nof the game and infrastructure is decaying. Another insightful \narticle in the New York Times (Sunday, April 7) exposes the dirty \nlinen of Greece, and describes her as the pariah of the European \nCommunity. The article reports that ''...with un-European antics,\nGreece uses the Community as a cash register. She squanders, and\nat times even steals the European tax payers' money for political  \nfeatherbedding at home. The principal members of the Community\nadmit that it was a mistake to accept Greece to the European\nCommunity.'' This affirmation is testimony to the fact that\nnotwithstanding her geographic location, Greece is un-European\nin mentality and attitude. \n\nIndeed, during the last 12 years, Turkiye registered a great \nsuccess with regard to economic restructuring. A sound economy, \nready to be integrated to the world economies, has emerged, \nsucceeding to the faltering one, witnessed in the '70s.\n\nJust 12 years ago, Greece used to export double as much as \nTurkiye did. Now inversely, Turkiye's overall exports exceed \nby far that of Greece. As far as the tourism incomes are \nconcerned, we are witnessing the same phenomenon.\n\nThe governments in Turkiye have put a particular emphasis on \nthe infrastructure investments (rather than investing in\nworld terrorist organizations), thereby solving this issue \ncompletely. Indeed, in the '70s, it was out of the question \nto conduct a telephone call from Eastern Anatolia to the West. \nNowadays, this is not the case at all, and in a far remote \ntown, even in a village you may have, at any time, a long-distance \ncall to any given country.\n\nHowever, the same could not be applied to Greece. In fact,\nit is not so easy in Athens to have a trunk call to Germany\nround the clock. And if you happen to be in the Greek islands,\nthen your chance will be pretty slim. Therefore, it would not\nbe an exaggeration to argue that Turkiye is far ahead of \nGreece in regard to telecommunication facilities. Greece,\nby virtue of its full membership, has enjoyed all advantages\nof the EC, obtaining huge grants and extensive subsidies. \nTurkiye, having no access at all to similar financial supports,\nhas nevertheless managed to create a better economy which \nenabled it to produce consecutive current accounts surplus\nover the last two years. As such, Turkiye deserves to be the\nonly country in its region having permanent current accounts\nsurplus. \n\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
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{"text":"\nBut if He\/She did you would probably consider it rape.  \n\n\nObviously there are many Christians who have tried and do believe. So .. ?\n\n\nNo one asks you to swallow everything, in fact Jesus warns against it.   But let\nme ask you a question.  Do you beleive what you learn in history class, or for\nthat matter anything in school.  I mean it's just what other people have told\nyou and you don't want to swallow what others say. right ... ?\n\nThe life , death, and resurection of Christ is documented historical fact.  As much\nas anything else you learn.  How do you choose what to believe and what not to?\nI could argue that George Washington is a myth.  He never lived because I don't\nhave any proof except what I am told.   However all the major events of the life\nof Jesus Christ were fortold hundreds of years before him.  Neat trick uh?","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nI guess I'm still not clear on what the term \"candida bloom\" means,\nbut certainly it is well known that thrush (superficial candidal\ninfections on mucous membranes) can occur after antibiotic use.\nThis has nothing to do with systemic yeast syndrome, the \"quack\"\ndiagnosis that has been being discussed.\n\n\n\nLucky how?  Since a recent article (randomized controlled trial) of\noral yogurt on reducing vaginal candidiasis, I've mentioned to a \nnumber of patients with frequent vaginal yeast infections that they\ncould try eating 6 ounces of yogurt daily.  It turns out most would\nrather just use anti-fungal creams when they get yeast infections.\n\n\nAgain, this just isn't what the systemic yeast syndrome is about, and\nhas nothing to do with the quack therapies that were being discussed.\nThere is some evidence that attempts to reinoculate the GI tract with\nbacteria after antibiotic therapy don't seem to be very helpful in\nreducing diarrhea, but I don't think anyone would view this as a\nquack therapy.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nThis does not change the *fact* that \"Muslim\" is a legal and political\nterm defined constitutionally in former Yugoslavia, and therefore has\nmeaning and consequences entirely *independent* and *immaterial* of\nany religious considerations.\n \n\n\nYou only wish it were so.\n\nMore than 2,000,000 residents of Croatia and B-H have *not* accepted the\nterms of secession which Tudjman and Izetbegovic unilaterally forced upon\nthem.  Croats and Muslims may have a right to negotiated secession but\nthey do not have a right to grab the *entire* territories of the former\nYugoslav republics of Croatia and B-H.\n\nOh, BTW, *Yugoslavia* was *internationally recognized* when it was \ndestroyed by Tudjman, Izetbegovic, Milosevic, and the international\ncommunity led by Germany.  If Yugoslavia's borders could be changed\nagainst its will, then certainly Croatia's borders and B-H's borders\ncan be changed as well.  \n\nAs I have stated many times: the civil war in ex-Yugoslavia will end\nwhen the terms of secession (borders, etc.) for Croatia and B-H are\nfinally agreed upon.  Serbs, Croats, and Muslims will *all* have to\nmake territorial concessions to reach such an agreement.  ","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nThere are several CRT-to-film writers around. Agfa has some, they also might\nbe called Matrix?, and I am pretty sure other companies sell the same\nequipment. You might want to talk to any company in your area that does\npresentation slides or offers graphics services. They should have those\nmachines and they might point you to a local vendor. From there on it's all\na question of money. They units are essentially high res CRTs plus a filter\nwheel plus a 35mm camera and a computer hook-up.\n\n\nReiner","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Sabres are\nFuhr or\nknow much\n\n\nTwo words: Grant Fuhr.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"RFD\n                          Request For Discussion\n                                for the\n                          OPEN  TELEMATIC GROUP\n\n                                  OTG\n\nI have proposed the forming of a consortium\/task force for the\npromotion of NAPLPS\/JPEG, FIF to openly discuss ways, method,\nprocedures,algorythms, applications, implementation, extensions of\nNAPLPS\/JPEG standards.  These standards should facilitate the creation\nof REAL_TIME Online applications that make use of Voice, Video,\nTelecommuting, HiRes graphics, Conferencing, Distant Learning, Online\norder entry, Fax,in addition these dicussion would assist all to\nbetter understand how SGML, CALS, ODA, MIME, OODBMS, JPEG, MPEG,\nFRACTALS, SQL, CDrom, cdromXA, Kodak PhotoCD, TCL, V.FAST, and\nEIA\/TIA562, can best be incorporated and implemented to develop\nTELEMATIC\/Multimedia applications.\n\nWe want to be able to support DOS, UNIX, MAC, WINDOWS, NT, OS\/2\nplatforms.  It is our hope that individuals, developers, corporations,\nUniversities, R & D labs would join in in supporting such an endeavor.\n\nThis would be a NOT_FOR_PROFIT group with bylaws and charter. Already\nmany corporations have decided to support OTG (Open TELEMATIC Group) so\ndo not delay joining if you are a developer\n\nAn RFD has been posted to form a usenet newsgroup and a FAQ will soon\nbe be composed to start promulgating what is known on the subject.  If\nyou would like to be added to the maillist send email or mail to the\naddress below.\n\nThis group would publish an electronic quarterly NAPLPS\/JPEG\nnewsletter as well as a hardcopy version.  We urge all who wants to\nsee CMCs HiRes based applications & the NAPLPS\/JPEG G R O W, decide to\njoin and mutually benefit from this NOT-FOR_PROFIT endeavor.\n\nNOTE: Telematic has been defined by Mr. James Martin as the marriage\n      of Voice, Video, Hi-res Graphics, Fax, IVR, Music over telephone\n      lines\/LAN.\n\nIf you would like to get involve write to me at:\n\n  IMG Inter-Multimedia Group| Internet:  epimntl@world.std.com\n  P.O. Box 95901            |            ed.pimentel@gisatl.fidonet.org\n  Atlanta, Georgia, US      | CIS     :  70611,3703\n                            | FidoNet :  1:133\/407\n                            | BBS     :  +1-404-985-1198 zyxel 14.4k","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":": Gateway 2000 has released a new Flash BIOS update for their local bus systems\n: Because I'm such a nice person, I uploaded them to wuarchive.wustl.edu.  Look\n: for glb05.exe in the msdos_uploads section.  Enjoy!\n\nI blindly installed it and I haven't had any problems or noticed any\ndifferences yet! Note that I did not backup my previous BIOS, you can with\nthe tool that they ship.\n\nRob \"I live on the edge\" Laddish\n---------___----------------------------------------------------------\n        \/  \/        Robert Laddish              AT&T:    707-577-3767\nHEWLETT\/hp\/PACKARD  HP Santa Rosa, Ca.          Telnet:  1-577-3767\n      \/__\/          mail stop 4USR              robl@sr.hp.com           ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I am doing research on atheism, part of which involves field research here\non the net.  The following is a survey directed towards all readers of this\ngroup, intended to get data about the basis of atheistic belief.  I would\nseriously appreciate it if each and every one of you would fill it out and\nmail it back to me at mtabbott@unix.amherst.edu.  \n\nFirst of all, I've tried to structure questions that can be answered in a\nvariety of ways, with varying amounts of detail; it's possible to give \nsuccinct answers to most everything, but there's enough here to keep most of \nyou typing for hours, I'm sure.  As much detail as you want to give me (I mean \nit) is great, but it's also important for me to have as broad a base of \nindividuals as possible, so even minimal responses are far better than nothing\n-- it's a short survey if you just answer the questions without elaboration.  \n\nSecondly, I hope some of the questions don't come off as obnoxious; I know that\nphrases like \"What would convince you of the existence of God\" imply that I am\na seminary student intent on proving you all to be ignorant Godless heathens.\nIn fact, I'm not too sure about the existence of a higher power myself, so my\nuse of \"God\" is a question of locution rather than ideology -- it's easier \nthan just repeating \"a deity or higher power\" every time.  \n\nAlso, I tend to use a lot of anthropological buzzwords like \"belief system\"\nalthough I know some of you might contend that you don't have ANY beliefs, but\nare skeptical towards everything.  I understand; but you know what I mean.\nThink of such buzzwords as abbreviations for the rather unweildy phrases \nrequired to get the precise idea across.  \n\nLastly, thanks!  Please fill out as much as you can, in as much detail as\nyou can, and send them to me.  My research and I thank you.  \n\n---------------\n\nWhere would you place your beliefs, on the spectrum \n\tTheism <--> Agnosticism <--> Weak Atheism <--> Strong Atheism?  \nFeel free to elaborate on your specific beliefs.  \n\n\nIn what, if any, religious tradition were you raised?  Did you ever believe \nin the existence of a God?  (Several of the following questions presume \nthat the answer to this is \"yes;\" if you've always been an atheist, or at\nleast never a theist, you may have to modify the question\/answer somewhat.)\n\n\nHow serious was your\/your family's involvement?  \n\nHow and when did you start to doubt the tenets you were raised to believe?  \n\nHow and when did your \"final break\" with your beliefs, if any, occur?  I \nrealize that this is often more of an ongoing process than an \"event\" per se;\nwhatever the case, just describe it in whatever detail you wish.  \n\n\nWhat contact with other atheists have you had; before and after (and during)\nyour \"conversion\" to atheism?  (Certainly your involvement with alt.atheism\ncounts -- how have net discussions affected your beliefs?)  \n\nTo what extent do you think other atheists have influenced you in your\nbeliefs?  Did you come by your beliefs through discussion, through\nindependent means, or by some combination of the two or other means?  \n\n\nAre you convinced that your beliefs were acquired through wholly rational\nmeans (proofs of the non-existence of God, etc), or was it perhaps, at least \nin part, through other means (alienation from mainstream religion, etc)?  \n\n\nTo what extent do you feel you \"understand\" the universe through your beliefs?\nWhat phenomena of the universe and of human existence (anything from physical\nphenomena to the problem of the existence of evil in human affairs) do you \nfeel are adequately dealt with by your beliefs, and where are they lacking as \nan explanatory method?  \n\nWhat would it take for you to question, or change, your beliefs?  What would\nconvince you of the existence of God, what would convince you of the \nplausibility of God's existence, and so forth?  How dynamic are your beliefs\n-- are they constantly changing; have they stayed more or less the same for\nsome time?  \n\nAre you involved in a career or education in science?  To what extent do you\nthink science has influenced your beliefs?  (Issac Asimov claimed that science\nwas the new \"secular religion,\" and that \"scientists are, in a very real sense,\nthe new priesthood.\"  Do you see the pursuit of science as having a quasi-\nreligious base, or even a religious element?)  \n\n---------------\n\nThis survey is intended to get data from a broad range of individuals, but\nalso to help me narrow down the field to a small group of people whose\nideas and histories could be very useful to me.  Would you be willing to have\nme, on the basis of this survey, write you to find out more about you and your\nbeliefs?  If not, fine; your filling out the survey alone is great.  \n\n---------------\n\nThanks again.  Feel free to contact me if you have any questions about what\nI'm doing with this data, or if you have anything to say in addition to what\nI've asked about above.  ","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nYeah.  In a fire that reportedly burned hotter than 1000 degrees-- hot\nenough to make the bodies still unidentifiable-- the authorities found\na gun that was recognizably fully-automatic and state of the art.\nIsn't that CONVEEEENIENT?","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nWell, when you say, without Morris, you have to mention an assumed\nreplacement.  If the alternative to Morris was letting Cito Gaston\nsoft-toss the ball underhand to the opposition every 5 days, then\nof course the Blue Jays wouldn't have won without Morris.  If the\nalternative was replacement level, then I think it would've been very\nclose, and yes, Morris might've made the difference.  If the alternative\nwas Frank Viola, the Blue Jays probably would have won more easily with\nViola.\n\n\nYes.  You can make the argument that the his presence prevented \nthe team from collapsing in August.\n\n\nThose innings were probably helpful.\n\n\nWell, I think is complete bs.  What happened most of the time is that\nMorris fell behind, and the team came back and rescued him.  Mostly,\nthis is because he's a lousy 1st inning pitcher, and much better\nthe rest of the way.  That the team can climb out of 4-0, 5-0 holes\nconsistently and win them 6-5 is not to Morris' credit; it's to the\nteam's credit.\n\nFurthermore, while Morris did exceed the W-L percentage that would\nbe projected from his runs allowed and run support, he hasn't done\nthis in previous years.  In fact, his W-L record in 1991 is a lot\nworse than what it projects to be with run support and runs allowed.\nDo you think he just came up with this ability in 1992.\n\nLook at the 2 postseason games he pitched decently in.  Typical\nMorris games.  Morris gets behind; team rescues him.  He's not\nresponsible for that rescue.  And in both those games, the team\njust didn't rescue him enough.  Jack Morris pitched as well as he did\nduring much of the season in those 2 games; the offense just didn't\nearn him a victory.\n\n\nMorris is one of those guys who will reture when he can't start\nanymore; he's too bad a first inning pitcher to serve in the bullpen.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nMicronics & AMI came out with EISA\/VLB motherboards.\nByte Mag tests indicate that VLB is faster for video\nbut EISA is faster for disk ops. So I'll wait for\nGW2K to hopefully start using the Micronics board.\n\n-- ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nWell, the fastest, crudest mixer (aside from just physically connecting\nall your inputs together directly) is to run each signal through a \nresistor to a common output.  The resistors give some isolation so the\nsignal sources aren't driving directly into each other. \n\nTaking a wild, seat-of-the-pants guess, I'd say that if you are mixing\nhigh-impedance sources like some dynamic mikes, electric guitar pickups,\netc., your resistors ought to be maybe 5K - 10K or so.  If you are mixing\nline-level stuff or the outputs of a Walkman, or such, I'd go with 1K.\n\ninput 1 --\/\\\/\\\/\\\/ -------------+--- output\n                               |\ninput 2 --\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\-------------+\n                               |\ninput 3 --\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\-------------+\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"You might look for an allergy doctor in your area who uses sublingual\ndrops instead of shots for treatment. (You are given a small bottle of\nantigens; 3 drops are placed under the tongue for 5 minutes.) My\nallergy to bermuda grass was neutralized this way. Throughout the treatment\nprocess I had to return to the doctor's office every month for re-testing\nand a new bottle of antigens. After the allergy was completely neutralized\na bottle of maintenance antigens lasts me about 4 months (the sublingual\ndrops are then taken 3 times per week), and costs $20. So the cost is\nless than shots and it is more convenient just to take the drops at home.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\tWhen I might possibly be on the receiving end of a violent gesture, \n\tthen *I* get to decide for myself.  If someone does not like it, too\n\tbad.  I would be doing exactly what YOU  or any other living creature\n\twould do in terms of evaluation.  What's the big deal?\n\n\n\tSometimes.\n\n\n\tI might.\n\n\n\tNot in my experience.  And let us not forget that context is often an\n\timportant factor in evaluating a situation.  Seeing disheveled persons\n\ton a hiking trail is not likely to be evaluated equally with meeting\n\ta grimey sort, as described above, on a lonely city street at 3 am.\n\tAnyone that cannot properly discriminate between these two different\n\tsituations is legitimate fodder for the old \"survival of the fittest\" \n\tprinciple.\n\n\n\tSounds like you doubt your own abilities.  You sound pretty\n\ttypical in this respect.  You also seem to think that you'll\n\tbe safe or safer if others are unarmed.  This is dangerous \n\tfantasy.\n\n\n\tThen you are in need of some form of therapy.  Not necessarily that\n\tof an analyst, but maybe you should learn about guns.  Your fear is\n\tseems to be based in ignorance and false knowledge.  You see a person\n\twith a gun and you feel threatened.  Why is this so?  Have you any\n\tlegitimate basis for this?  Any first-hand experience that lends\n\tvalidity to your fears?  Or are your fears based on mediated experience,\n\ti.e. the anecdotes of others such as network news?  I trust you can\n\tsee the lack of legitimacy in such mediated inputs?\n\n\tAnd why are you afraid of the PEOPLE as mentioned above?  Forgive me,\n\tbut you sound afraid to the point of paranoia.  Perhaps you should talk\n\tto someone about this.  I am not saying this to be rude or fascetious,\n\tbut I think anyone with fear as deep and baseless as yours *seems* to\n\tbe needs some sort of help.  Living in fear really sucks, even if it\n\tis only when around people with guns in the back country.\n\n\tTell me: would you be as fearful of a park ranger who was right in \n\tfront of you with their side arm in clear view?  Why or why not?","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nFrom the word 'statim' (Latin, I think), meaning immediately.\n\n\n=========================","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\tIs there room for nudists? After all, if you believe most upstanding\nmoral churches, nudity IS a sin...\n\n\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I just thought I would pass along my experience with APS. I recently ordered\n an external Quantum 240. The salesperson was friendly and knowledgeable, the\n order came when promised, and the invoice was at the price quoted. \n\n Installing the drive was simple; I didn't even have to read the manual. The\n SCSI address is set by a pushbutton arrangement. I daisy-chained the drive\n from my Syquest (also from APS) and booted up with no problems. \n\n I'm still going through all the shareware that comes on the drive. It's a\n pretty good assortment.\n\n The drive\/fan is a bit noisier than I would like, but I think it'll be OK.\n The speed seems very good, although I haven't run any objective tests. It\n also seems to spin up pretty quickly; I can hit the power switch for it, and\n almost immediately power the Mac without any problems booting from the drive.\n\n Some observations: the case is plastic (good quality, though) while my older\n Syquest case is metal. There is one LED, which is normally green, and\n flickers red as the drive is accessed.\n\n Just a data point,\n Rich","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I think the main reason is that in the good old hacker days of the young(er)\nGates' and Jobs' of the world, the computer was not as widespread a\nphenomenom as it is now.  With the increased popularity of the PC\ncome a plethora of mundane business uses which required more practical\nminded and narrower-focused programmers.\n\nWhy be a hacker when you can get a good job programming databases or\nprograms for accountants?  Basically, the yuppies caught up and\ndisciplined the hackers, and molded them in their own image.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nI've yet to meet a group of Baptists who were stockpiling Cambell's soup\nand M-16's\/AR-15's and banging\/marrying thirteen yuear olds. You're a sorry\nson of a bitch if you can't draw a distinction between these two things.\nPeople like you cheapen our constitution by using it to defend sociopaths\nwho aren't deserved of it. Get a life and chill on the paranoia.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nWell I am one of those (apparently) odd people who can sometimes\ncontrol their dreams.  For example, I might decide before going to\nsleep that I want to repeat a favourite dream, or dream about a\nspecific place.  Or if I am having an unpleasant dream, I can often\n(not always) redirect events to something more pleasant.\n\nI guess I think that the same standards apply in these \"directed\"\ndreams as apply in waking fantasies or real life (ref Jesus teaching\nabout looking at a woman lustfully being the same a committing\nadultary).\n\nWhen my normal dreams display themes that I would not conciously chose\nto dream about, I take that as a sign that all is not well with my\n\"inner life\" - maybe I have underlying tenstions\/fears that need to be\nresolved, or maybe its straightforward sin.  In either case, the cause\nneeds to be resolved.  \n\nIn fact, either case is pretty rare.  I don't\noften remember dreams that I don't chose to have.  When I do, they\nalmost always tell me something important.\nI also almost never dream in pictures, and especially not in colour\n(in fact I've had precisely one full colour picture dream that I can\nremember, and it was definately spiritually important)\nI tend to dream in sound, with the odd blurred image, in black and\nwhite.\n\nInteresting topic - I'll be fascinated to read other responses.\n\nAlison","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\nOnly if you want to stop. Seriously though, every 2 years you should\nhave this done. Brake fluid absorbs water over time, the water becomes\nsteam when the fluid gets hot, and steam compresses. You'll also have\nbetter luck with the longevity of master cylinder, calipers and brake\nlines.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Does anybody know what is going on with Lankford? I know he was\nout for a few games with a slight injury, but since he has\nbeenback (and before the injury for that matter) he has been\nreally struggling at the plate and on the basepaths.\n\nWhereis the Ray Lankford we saw last year???\n\n\n--\nmsilverm@nyx.cs.du.edu\t\t\t\tGO CUBS!!!","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"From article <1suntv$3km@watson.mtsu.edu>, by csjohn@watson.mtsu.edu (John Wallace):\n\nThe GL file is an archive containing individual frames or pieces of\nframes (usually stored as .PIC or .CLP files), fonts, and a .TXT file\nthat tells the GRASP animation system how to display it.  GL stands\nfor Grasp Library.  There is probably a detailed discussion of this subject\nin the alt.binaries.pictures FAQ.\n\nThere are freely distributable viewers for GL files, and they are usually\nnamed GRASPRT?.EXE (replace the ? with a version digit or letter).  Most\nGL files contain frames that are hardware-specific to particular modes\nof the CGA, EGA, or VGA adapters on PCs.  I think that there are some\ncopies of GRASPRT available by anonymous ftp (I know that I got one there\na long time ago).\n\n\t\tGood Luck\n\t\tJack\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"unsubscribe\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"-*----\n\nThe millipede's around here (Austin) have no sting.  Some of the\ncentipedes do.  The question Rebecca Snyder asks is much like\nasking \"How venomous are snakes?\"  One either wants to ask \"which\nsnake?\" or point to some reference on the many different species\nof snake.  Similarly, there are many different species of\nmillipede and centipede.  (These are different families;\nmillipedes have two pairs of legs per body segment, while\ncentipedes have but one pair.)\n\nSorry if this information is not useful.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\tSpray the chain wax onto the rollers and sideplates occassionally, and\nrust will not be a problem.\n\nLater,","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n[Loads of horrendous MZ engine problems deleted]\n\n\nYeah, buy a four-stroke.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I don't think mr. Clinton can even understand the technical details of\n\tthe clipper encryption scheme. So, his \"assurances\" are of no value at\n\tal, if he gives them he just says what a panel of experts(?) told him.\n\tIf I lived in the USA, I would hope those experts were not paid by the\n\t<fill here you favorite 3-letter combination>.\n\n\"The doctrine of plausible deniability\".  No-one is going to tell him\nit has a back door.  The NSA will assume he has the sense to work it out\nfor himself or they wouldn't be pushing it.  Clinton might even *believe*\nthe NSA when they tell him, for the record, it doesn't have a back door.\n\nAnd no FOIA request in the world will ever find it.  These guys don't\nplay by that set of rules.  They have their own rule book, and no, you're\nnot allowed to see that either.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Does anybody have any information on the second generation Broncos? (I'm\nnot talking about Bronco II's, I'm referring to the Broncos that began\nproduction in 1978 based on the F-150 chassis I believe)\n\nI need to know what to look for, can the tops be removed from all\nmodels, how easily can that be done. Also, what kind of price range\nshould I be looking at? (i.e. what is blue book) I'm in college right\nnow, and would like a Jeep. Unfortunately, I've got a bit of a ride to\nschool, and I need to carry a lot of junk to and from the dormitory in\nthe spring\/fall. I think that the Bronco (with the removable fiberglass)\nwould be a better (read \"bigger\") choice than a CJ-5 or CJ-7.\n\nEven better: anybody in the Maryland\/Virginia area interested in selling\none?","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"hello,\n\nI just want to make 2 points:\n\n1) The FBI is not stupid. These people are chosen for their intelligence,\neducation, loyalty to the government, etc. They are given much intensive\ntraining. So, to all of you who refuse to believe there could be any\nconspiracy here, and say that the FBI was just stupid, I say I don't\nbelieve it.\n\n2) The FBI has acces to the latest in audio and video technology -- the\nlatest digital systems. The FBI can manufacture evidence. Need a tape of\nKoresh saying, \"light the fire\", and you can have one. Need a thermal\nimaging video of three people lighting fires, and through the magic of\ncomputer graphics, you can have one. The thing is, manufacturing these\npieces of evidence takes time. So it may be a few more days before we\nget to see them. Or maybe we just haven't heard any tapes or seen any\nFBI video is because it is:\n\t1) classified\n\t2) too gruesome for our eyes\n\t3) lost\/got coffee spilled on it\n\nDwayne Jacques Fontenot","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nYou probably were trying to be facetious but just for the record partial nasal\nobstruction is correlated with a number of chronic disorders such as migraine,\nhyperthyroidism, asthma, peptic ulcer, dysmenorrhea, and lack of libido (:-) )\n[Riga IN. Rev d'Oto-Neuro-Ophthalmol 1957;24:325-335], cardiac symptoms\n[Jackson RT. Annals of Otology 1976;85:65-70  Cvetnic MH, Cvetnic V. Rhinology\n1980;18:47-50     Cottle MH. Rhinology 1980;18:67-81], and fever, inadequate\noral intake and electrolyte imbalance [Fairbanks DNF. Otorhinolaryngology Head\nand Neck Surgery 1986;94:412-415).\n\nSo before you post your inane comments it would be nice if you'd run a MEDLINE\nsearch on the topic say back to 1966. There's been extensive literature on this\nfor over a 100 years.\n\nI may be in cardiology but I've had a very good working relationship with\nmy colleagues from ENT.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I have to agree wholeheartedly with this view.  I don't like to see stickwork,\nbut you have to clear players away from in front.  My personal favorite move\n(I'm a goalie too) is to give the offeding player a good whack on the back\nof their skates when the ref isn't looking.  Makes 'em go down like a ton of\nbricks, but doesn't cause injuries unless they don't know how to fall (I'm \ntalking about hitting the blades here, not the foot).  It also makes the \nplayer you hit and anyone who sees really mad and apt to take a stupid\nretaliation penalty.  Unfortunately, it also leaves your blocker out of \nposition for a short time...I don't do this if a shot is likely on the short\nside.  Hmm....maybe I should mail Potvin this method (in French and with\nhelpful diagrams, of course).  It sure would be nice to see Ciccerelli (who\nI have a great deal of respect for, BTW, he's not a big guy, but he plays\nhuge!) fall on his back a few times!  :-)","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\t\tEXACTLY!!  Read that one sentence in there...\"to the degree\n\tthat means other than the death penalty and military operations are\n\tsufficient to keep the peace, then these non-violent provisions are to\n\tbe preferred...\"\n\n\tI don't believe that it is necessary for us to murder criminals to keep\n\tthe peace; the Church in the United States feels the same way, thus the\n\treason that the Catholic Church has opposed every execution in this\n\tcountry in recent memory.\n\n\n\tSo what is justifiable?  As you stated very explicitly from the new\n\tCatechism, the only justifiable case is when it is necessary to keep\n\tthe peace.  Since that does not apply *at all* to this country, the\n\tlogical conclusion (based on your own premises) is that one must be\n\topposed to *any* form of capital punishment in America.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nThis is the price hockey fans have to pay for the mistake of leaving\nESPN 5 or 6 years ago...it will take time to correct for that mistake.\n\nBut returning to ESPN was the correct decision last year...by next\ntime, we may have the potential for Sportschannel and ESPN to really\ncompete to offer better coverage and be forced to deliver on it.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Hi, I am doing a term paper on the syringe and I have found some\ninformation.  It is said that Charles Pravaz has invented the hypodermic\nneedle, but then I have also found that Alexander Wood has invented it. \nDoes anyone know which one it is, of if it was anyone else?  If there is\nanymore information that is out there could you please send it to me.\nThank you very much.\nBecky Olsen\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I need the box score from the April 15 game I believe the score was 5 to 4\nif anyone can provide  it for me I would appreciate it....","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"}I need some advice on having someone ride pillion with me on my 750 Ninja.\n}This will be the the first time I've taken anyone for an extended ride\n}(read: farther than around the block  :-).  We'll be riding some twisty, \n}fairly bumpy roads (the Mines Road-Mt.Hamilton Loop for you SF Bay Areans).\n\nUnless she is really adventurous, do NOT take her on this route for her\nfirst extended ride! That's kinda like taking someone on a no-show 10-way\nspeed star competition as their first skydive.\n\n}This person is <100 lbs. and fairly small, so I don't see weight as too much\n}of a problem, but what sort of of advice should I give her before we go?\n}I want her to hold onto me  :-)   rather than the grab rail out back, and\n}I've heard that she should look over my shoulder in the direction we're\n}turning so she leans *with* me, but what else?  Are there traditional\n\n1) If the Ninja has adjustable suspension, adjust it to a stiffer\nsetting so you don't bottom out in bumpy curves.\n\n2) Tell her the 3 cardinal rules are:\n\na) NEVER EVER EVER EVER put her feet down. Not when you stop at a STOP\nsign, not when she thinks you're gonna crash, never. Keep them on the\npegs until you tell her to get off the bike.\n\nb) She is to hold onto your waist. She should hold on tightly enough\nthat she won't slide off the bike if you twist the throttle a bit. And\n(added bonus for you here), she should keep as close to your butt as\npossible so quick stops don't make her slide into you and knock your\nballs up onto the gas tank. You decide how best to word this.\n\nc) Just stay perpendicular to the bike; straight up in the seat. Don't\nlean your body into curves, just go with the bike and stay perpendicular.\nDon't look over your shoulder.*\n\n3) Remember at all times that you have a passenger on the back. That\nmeans don't pop the clutch, and try to corner and stop smoother than\nusual. Be aware that if you jump on the brake, you're going to have\nthe equivalent of a 100 lb. dead weight crashing into you from behind,\nso be prepared for that.\n\n4) Make sure she pisses before the ride even if she says she doesn't\nhave to go. No anti-women stuff here; I have a tiny bladder myself.\n\n5) Remind her to look around while you're riding. Point to things\nof interest. It makes the ride more enjoyable to her (she won't get\nso focused on just looking at the back of your helmet), and it gives\nher ample excuse to squeeze you to show she saw what you pointed at.\n\n* My wife and I tried the MSF-recommended \"look over the rider's\nshoulder in curves\" bit, and it just didn't work. The timing of\nher weight shift was unpredictable (especially on the Maxim because,\nunlike the Ninja, the upright riding position really restricts the\npillion's view of the road ahead). Next time I had her just remain\nperpendicular to the bike, and I could hardly tell there was someone\nelse on the bike in curves, and she weighs substantially over 100 lbs.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nNo. It's called \"not wiping off the apparatus after taking a picture of the\nwhole leaf.\"","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nI have had a SCSI and IDE drive working together for some years now.\nSCSI is supposedly pretty transparent to other types of drives\n(ESDI,RLL,IDE,etc) - but oftentimes you need to get the correct drivers\nto get it to work with odd environments.\n\nFor information purposes, I had:","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"You mena in the same way french intelliegence agents steal\ndocuments from US corporate executives?","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"shut up andi!\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nTwo notes of interest from Texas:\n\nThe Tarrant Couonty ME (who is doing the autopsies) is well known for rendering\njudgements that are contrary to the police view.  He presented evidence a few\nyears ago that a man who police said was pointing a gun at them actually had\nhis hands in the air.  This does not bode well for the boys in black.\n\nThe Texas Dept. of Public Saftey and the Texas Rangers have no great love for\nthe ATF.  I have heard them referred to as \"those fucking cowboys\".  The DPS\nwas totally squeezed out of the BD operation and resented being left as\n\"traffic cops\".  ATF now has two strikes against them.\n\nFinally (I guess that makes three notes), rumour from Waco is that four ATF\nagents were stopped by four Waco police cars and a DPS trooper after one of the\nflashed \"an automatic weapon\" at a cop.  Lots of pissed of cops.  And you\nwonder why there were so few cops really cheering on the ATF.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Since we're on the subject of brakes.... does anyone know why a 4WD Vauxhall\/\nOpel disengages drive to the rear wheels when the brakes are applied? Vauxhall\nboast about how the car is more stable in fwd mode during braking than in 4wd\nmode.... how is this so? \n\t\t\t\t\t\t...Shaz...\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
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{"text":"\n\nI just installed a MC Power Arc II, and it seems to run great. I also\nused MC coils, and neither the ignition module or the coils required\nany new mounting holes to be drilled on my 92 FXSTC. A little soldering\nand all was fine. Static timing was real easy to set too. \n\nOn the other side of the coin, my local wrench, whose opinion I\ninvariably seek but don't always adopt, thinks MC Power Arc is a \"piece\nof shit\" and says \"all them Jap chips are gonna fail you one day\". \nNeedless to say, he doesn't like any electronic ignition modules, and\nrecommends the Dyna-S system. I think that's the one with the\nHall-effect timing sensor(s), correct?","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nAnd this is just the beginning. Fascist x-Soviet Armenian Government will \nnot get away with the genocide of 2.5 million Turks and Kurds, and 204,000 \nAzeri people. Your criminal grandparents committed unheard-of crimes, \nresorted to all conceivable methods of despotism, organized massacres, \npoured petrol over babies and burned them, raped women and girls in front \nof their parents who were bound hand and foot, took girls from their \nmothers and fathers and appropriated personal property and real estate. \nAnd today, they put Azeris in the most unbearable conditions any other \nnation had ever known in history. \n\nYour fascist grandparents admitted their unspeakable crimes then. \nWhy deny them now? Now the genocide of the truth by the criminal\/Nazi \nArmenians? Not a chance.\n\n                               \nSource: \"Men Are Like That\" by Leonard Ramsden Hartill. The Bobbs-Merrill\nCompany, Indianapolis (1926). (305 pages). \n(Memoirs of an Armenian officer who participated in the genocide of 2.5 \n million Muslim people)\n\n\"Foreword:\"\n\n\"For example, we were camped one night in a half-ruined Tartar mosque, \n the most habitable building of a destroyed village, near the border \n of Persia and Russian Armenia. During the course of evening I asked \n Ohanus if he could tell me anything of the history of the village and \n the cause of its destruction. In his matter of fact way he replied, Yes, \n I assisted in its sack and destruction, and witnessed the slaying of \n those whose bones you saw to-day scattered among its ruins.\" \n\np. 202 (first and second paragraphs).\n\n\"We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as \n ways of escape for the Tartars and then proceeded in the work \n of extermination. Our troops surrounded village after village. \n Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked the huts \n into heaps of stone and dust and when the villages became untenable \n and inhabitants fled from them into fields, bullets and bayonets \n completed the work. Some of the Tartars escaped of course. They \n found refuge in the mountains or succeeded in crossing the border \n into Turkey. The rest were killed. And so it is that the whole \n length of the borderland of Russian Armenia from Nakhitchevan to \n Akhalkalaki from the hot plains of Ararat to the cold mountain \n plateau of the North were dotted with mute mournful ruins of \n Tartar villages. They are quiet now, those villages, except for \n howling of wolves and jackals that visit them to paw over the \n scattered bones of the dead.\" \n\np. 15 (second paragraph).\n\n\"The Tartars were, for the most part, poor. Some of them lived in villages \n and cultivated small farms; many of them continued in the way of life of \n their nomadic forefathers. They drove their flocks and herds from valley \n to valley, from plain to mountain, and from mountain to plain, following \n the pasturage as it changed with the seasons. They ranged from the salt \n desert shores of the Caspian Sea far into the mighty Caucasus Mountains. \n Even the village Tartars are a primitive people, only semicivilized.\"\n\n\"I can see now that we Armenians frankly despised the Tartars, and, while \n holding a disproportionate share of the wealth of the country, regarded and\n treated them as inferiors. The fact that the Russians looked down upon all\n Armenians in much the same way as Armenians regarded Tartars, far from proving\n a bond between ourselves and our racially different neighbors, intensified\n an attitude and conduct on our part that served only to exacerbate hostility.\"\n\np. 20 (second paragraph).\n\n\"Our men armed themselves, gathered together and advanced on the Tartar\n section of the village. There were no lights in the houses and the doors\n were barred, for the Tartars suspected what as to happen and were in great \n fear. Our men hammered on the doors, but got no response; whereupon they\n smashed in the doors and began a carnage that continued until the last\n Tartar was slain. Throughout the hideous night, I cowered at home in terror,\n unable to shut my ears to the piercing screams of the helpless victims and\n the loud shouts of our men. By morning the work was finished.\"\n\np. 109 (second paragraph).\n\n\"As things were, the members of the Dashnack Party were without administrative\n experience; consequently the government they instituted quickly proved itself\n incompetent to rule by legitimate means.\n\n The members of the government had been revolutionists working in secret and\n outside the law. When they became a legally instituted, recognized governing\n body with the destiny of Armenia in their hands, they proved incompetent to \n do better than resume the terrorist tactics that had characterized their \n fight against the Russian and Turkish Governments in their outlaw days.\n\n The outstanding feature of their rule, now that they were in power, was,\n as in the old days, trial and execution without hearing. A man evoking\n the displeasure of the government or of some official would be tried and\n condemned without arrest or preference of charges against him. The method \n of execution was for a government 'mauserist' to walk up behind the\n condemned man in his home or on the street, place a pistol to the back\n of his head and blow out his brains. This simple way of getting rid of\n those who were undesirable in the view of the government and soon became\n a common way of paying debts.\"\n\np. 203 (first paragraph).\n\n\"A soldier succeeded in driving his bayonet through the Tartar. I saw the\n point of the weapon emerge through his back. ...Another soldier seized a rock \n and pounded the Tartar's head with it... The Armenian who had bayoneted him\n sprang to his feet, wrested the weapon from the Tartar's body, and, raising\n it to his lips, licked it clean of blood, exclaiming in Russian, 'Slodkey!\n Slodkey!' (Sweet.)\"\n\np. 203 (second paragraph).\n\n\"One evening I passed through what had been a Tartar village. Among the \n ruins a fire was burning. I went to the fire and saw seated about\n it a group of soldiers. Among them were two Tartar girls, mere children.\n The girls were crouched on the ground, crying softly with suppressed\n sobs. Lying scattered over the ground were broken household utensils and\n other furnishings of Tartar peasant homes. There were also bodies of the\n dead.\"\n\np. 204 (first paragraph).\n\n\"I was soon asleep. In the night I was awakened by the persistent crying of\n a child. I arose and went to investigate. A full moon enabled me to make\n my way about and revealed to me all the wreck and litter of the tragedy\n that had been enacted. Guided by the child's crying, I entered the yard of\n a house, which I judged from its appearance must have been the home of a\n Turkish family. There in a corner of the yard I found a women dead. Her\n throat had been cut. Lying on her breast was a small child, a girl about a\n year old.\"\n\np. 118.\n\n\"Slowly the train of oxcarts lumbered along through the snow, the cart\n jolting and the loads swaying. Boys ran along the line of oxen, encouraging\n them with shrill Tartar cries, and belaboring the beasts with sticks. In the\n carts, the women, veiled as is the Tartar way, held children in their arms.\n Wrapped in blankets and huddled among the goods that burdened the carts they\n sought protection from the wind and cold. A few old men plodded along on foot.\n\n Across the road through the ravine a barrier had been thrown. The leading\n oxteam reached this barrier and halted. The gunmen and other ruffians \n concealed among the rocks opened fire. Women and children leaped and\n scrambled from the carts, screamed, ran and sought vainly for safety.\n\n This massacre was not complete. The Armenian soldiers in the near-by \n barracks, hearing the firing and the turmoil, hurried to the scene....\n That same day the abandoned Tartar quarter of Alexandropol was looted\n and completely destroyed.\"\n\np. 192.\n\n\"Great swarms of peasants who had come out of their hiding-places on the\n retreat of the Turks followed our army as it advanced.... They entered\n into the city with the army and immediately began plundering the stores\n that had been left by the Turks.\"\n\np. 193.\n\n\"Terrible vengeance was taken upon Tartars, Kurds and Turks. Their villages\n were destroyed and they themselves were slain or driven out of the country.\"\n\np. 195.\n\n\"The fanatical Dashnacks hated the Turks above all others and then in order\n of diminishing intensity: Tartars, Kurds and Russians.\" \n\np. 218. (First and second paragraphs)\n\n\"Russian troops did terrible things in the Turkish villages...We Armenians \n did not spare the Tartars....If persisted in, the slaughtering of prisoners, \n the looting, and the rape and massacre of the helpless become commonplace \n actions expected and accepted as a matter of course.\n\n I have been on the scenes of massacres where the dead lay on the ground,\n in numbers, like the fallen leaves in a forest. They had been as helpless\n and as defenseless as sheep. They had not died as soldiers die in the\n heat of battle, fired with ardor and courage, with weapons in their hands,\n and exchanging blow for blow. They had died as the helpless must, with\n their hearts and brains bursting with horror worse than death itself.\"\n\np. 133 (first paragraph)\n\n\"In this movement we took with us three thousand Turkish soldiers who\n had been captured by the Russians and left on our hands when the Russians\n abandoned the struggle. During our retreat to Karaklis two thousand of\n these poor devils were cruelly put to death. I was sickened by the\n brutality displayed, but could not make any effective protest. Some,\n mercifully, were shot. Many of them were burned to death. The method\n employed was to put a quantity of straw into a hut, and then after\n crowding the hut with Turks, set fire to the straw.\"\n\np. 19 (first paragraph)\n\n\"The Tartar section of the town no longer existed, except as a pile of\n ruins. It had been destroyed and its inhabitants slaughtered. The same \n fate befell the Tartar section of Khankandi.\"\n\np. 22 (second paragraph)\n\n\"Many of our men had served in the Russian Army, and were trained soldiers.\n We Armenians were rich and possessed arms. Tartars had never received\n military training. They were poor, and possessed few arms beyond knives.\n ...Shortly after the killing of the Tartars in our village, the revolution\n in Russia was suppressed.\"\n\np. 97 (third paragraph)\n\n\"Within a few years, following the beginning of the movement, an invisible\n government of Armenians by Armenians had been established in Turkish \n Armenia in armed opposition to the Turkish Government. This secret \n government had its own courts and laws and an army of assassins called\n 'Mauserists' (professional killers) to enforce its decrees.\"\n\np. 98 (first paragraph)\n\n\"The Dashnacks were in continual open rebellion against the Turkish \n Government.\"\n\np. 98 (third paragraph)\n\n\"...the Dashnacks engineered a general revolt of Armenians in Turkish\n Armenia under the mistaken belief that European nations would intervene\n and secure independence for Turkish Armenia.\"\n\np. 99 (second paragraph)\n\n\"The Dashnacks were fanatics.\"           \n\np. 99 (third paragraph)\n\n\"The Dashnacks took advantage of this situation and extended their \n revolutionary activities into the Russian province. They instituted \n a campaign of terrorism and employed threats and force in securing\n contributions to the party funds from rich Armenians. A wealthy\n man would be assessed a stipulated sum. Refusal to pay brought upon\n him a sentence of death. \n\n Every member of the party was pledged to carry out orders without \n question. If a man were to be assassinated, lots might be drawn to\n select an executioner or the job might be assigned to one of the\n 'mauserists' of the party.\"\n\np. 130 (first paragraph)\n\n\"...in moments of victory against Turks and Kurds or Tartars, they \n [Armenians] have been remorseless in seeking vengeance.\"\n\np. 130 (third paragraph)\n\n\"The city was a scene of confusion and terror. During the early days of \n the war, when the Russian troops invaded Turkey, large numbers of the \n Turkish population abandoned their homes and fled before the Russian \n advance.\"\n\np. 159 (second paragraph)\n\n\"I made a cannon, a huge gun to lift which required four men. I made balls\n for it. With my cannon the Armenians could knock down any of the Tartar\n houses and so they were able to drive the Tartars out.\"\n\np. 181 (first paragraph)\n\n\"The Tartar villages were in ruins.\"\n\np. 189 (third paragraph)\n\n\"The dead Tartar lay with his head in a pool of mud and blood, his \n beard still setaceous and now crimsoned.\"\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nI don't necessarily disagree with your assertion, but I disagree with\nyour reasoning.  (Faith = Bad.  Dogma = Bad.  Religion -> (Faith ^ Dogma).\nReligion -> (Bad ^ Bad).  Religion -> Bad.)  Unfortunately, you never \nstate why faith and dogma are dangerous.  \n\nIf you believe faith and dogma are dangerous because of what happened in\nWaco, you are missing the point.  \n\nThe Branch Davidians made the mistake of confusing the message with the\nmessenger.  They believed Koresh was a prophet, and therefore believed\neverything he said.  The problem wasn't the religion, it was the \nfollowers.  They didn't die because of faith and dogma, they died because\nof their zealotry (or, in the case of the children, the zealotry of their\nparents).\n\n\nSo Christians are totally irrational?  Irrational with respect to their\nreligion only?  What are you saying?  One's belief in a Christian God does\nnot make one totally irrational.  I think I know what you were getting at,\nbut I'd rather hear you expand on the subject.\n\n\n\nAgain, this statement is too general.  A Christian is perfectly capable of\nbeing a philosopher, and absolutely capable of changing his\/her mind.  Faith in\nGod is a belief, and all beliefs may change.  Would you assert that atheists\nwould make poor philosophers because they are predisposed to not believe in a\nGod which, of course, may show unfair bias when studying, say, religion?\n\n\n\n\n\nSo, Christianity is a prison, eh?  Ever heard of parole?  You have read far\ntoo much into this subject.  A Christian is one who follows the religion\nbased on the teachings of a man named Jesus Christ.  Nowhere does this\ndefinition imply that one cannot change one's mind.  In prison, however,\nyou can't just decide to leave.  One is voluntary, the other is not.  The\ntwo are not compatible.\n\n\n\nI prefer to think of religion as a water pistol filled with urine. 8^)\nSeriously, though, some (but certainly not all) religions do condemn\ngroups of people.  The common target is the \"infidel,\" a curious being\nwho is alternately an atheist, a non-<insert specific religious\naffiliation here>, a person of a different race, or an Egyptian. 8^)\n\nPlease explain how \"just because\" thinking kills people.  (And please\nstate more in your answer than \"Waco.\")\n\n\n\nI'll see your conscientious peacenik and raise you a religious \nzealot with bad acne. 8^)  By the way, I wasn't aware mass suicide\nwas a problem.  Waco and Jonestown were isolated incidents.  \nMass suicides are far from common.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nPrecisely.  One wonders what unusual strain the boy might be under that\ncould be causing \"difficulty with his behavior\".  Standard practice would\nbe to get a second opinion from a child psychiatrist.  One would want to\nrule out the possibility that the \"bad behavior\" is not psychiatric\nillness at all.\n\n(Disclaimer: I am not a medic. But I am a parent.)\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nNo, Boston probably won't go down easy, but if the Sabres hadn't won\ngame one Buffalo would have been out in four.\n\nAnd what problem are you having with playoff games here in\nBuffalo???!!!??? There's the Sabres-Bruins, Quebec-Montreal, and\nwhatever ESPN and ABC show, and on opposite nights there's\nToronto-Detroit and whatever ESPN(\/ABC) shows.  More hockey than a\ngood chunk of North America, either side of the border.  It's\nwonderful, and there are thousands of folks who'd kill to be in your\nshoes, coverage-wise.\n\n\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nPretty high frequency for one chip...\n\n\nYes and no. I would use the FM transmitter chip from Motorola (Linear and  \nInterface Databook), a stable cristal oscillator and a mixer (e.g. SBL-1 from  \nmini circuits lab). Everything is done in the FM chip and then mixed up with  \nthe oscillator frequency. Just have a look at the ARRL Handbook. There are lots  \nof ideas in there about oscillators and mixing. I don't think, there are single  \nchip designs for such high frequencies yet.\n\n\nCheers   Robert HB9NBY","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nIt was NOT Krupp's skate.  Krupp was defending against Steve Tuttle,\nof the Blues.  They both sort of tripped and fell toward Malarchuk,\nand Tuttle's skate came perilously close to cutting (but actually just\nmissed) the jugular.  Malarchuk immediately fell to the ice, hands at\nhis neck, blood on the ice.\n\nHe'd been suffering from it for over a decade.  He just wasn't\ndiagnosed for it until he didn't sleep for ten days and decided to\nhave some alcohol to help him sleep.  Unfortunately, he'd just been\nput on ulcer medicine a few days earlier.  It's amazing he lasted as\nlong as he did.  OCD sufferers stop distinguishing the line between\nreality and imagination, or fail to accept that something they've\nchecked is OK now.  For example, an OCD sufferrer can wash his hands\nover and over and still think they're dirty.  He might check the oven\nten times to be sure it's turned off.  He might see a movie about\nsomething and automatically assume the situation is the same for his\nown life.  Malarchuk has dramatically decreased the medicine he takes,\nbut still needs it.  He went off it this past winter and had a bad OCD\nepisode and I think was in the hospital for a couple days.  (He felt\nit slowed his reflexes, so he tried to go without).  In any event, he\nis alive and well and living in San Diego, while playing with the\nGulls (IHL).  \n\n\nAnd Tuttle is no longer with the Blues, but I don't know where he is.\nPossibly in the IHL, but you'd best ask a Blues fan.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nYou can tell your friend from me that I was in a publisher's\nwarehouse one time and saw thousands of copies of The Joy of\nCooking and every one of them was syllable-perfect.\n\nI have since sold all I own and become a follower of The Joy\nof Cooking.  The incident I mentioned convinced me, once and\nfor all, that The Joy of Cooking is inspired by god and the\none true path to his glory.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I need help in creating my 4x4 perspective matrix.  I'd like to use this for\ntransforming x, y, z, w in some texture mapping code I got from Graphics Gems\nI.  I have many books which talk about this, but none of them in simple plain\nenglish.  If you have Graphics Gems I, I'm talking about page 678.\n\nI'd like to have a perspective matrix that handles different field-of-views\nand aspect of course.  Thank's for your help.\n\n-- \nYes, of course everything I say is my personal opinion!","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Wow, this guy seems to be out to prove something to his old team, Boston.\nWhich Sweeney you ask...well, of course Bob Sweeney, the one that Boston\nlet Buffalo get a hold of (they still have 2 Sweeneys which makes things\nslightly confusing).  Game winner in OT in game 1, and another\nBIG goal (seconds after Fuhr made 3 point blank saves -> this is why\nGrant has 5 rings!!!) to put Buffalo ahead in the 3rd.  Yes, Neely countered\na minute later, but hadn't this course of Buffalo going ahead after being\ntied and shutting down another few great scoring opportunities, I\nthink Boston would have notched their first win of the series.\n\nWell, the Sabres haven't made it to the end of this series yet, but\nI certainly feel they've got Boston right were they want them...actually,\nthey've got them in a position that neither Buffalo nor Boston felt\nthat would come about.  One more astronomical game by Fuhr, a few more\nheroics by the rest of the team (this is a team sport afterall) and I\nthink Borque, Neely, Jouneau (sp?), and Company are gonna be swinging\na new stick (Weather is perfect for golf season) real soon.  I'm not\ngonna waiger anything on this, because I've seen some really strange\nthings happen in both pro and college hockey.\n\nTalking about golf...was that a hockey swing, golf swing or baseball\nswing that Hawerchuck used in the last shot of the game that Khmylev\ndeflected in for the BIG ONE?  The whole OT (all 1 minute of it!) was a\ntesiment to Buffalo's ability to really be persistent and grind it out\nin the end (something they weren't necessarily in the regular season).  The\nSabres pushed hard and forced Borque to blatently take down Bodger in\nthe opening seconds.  I don't normally like penalties being called in\nsuch ultra-critical points, but this was BLATENT.  Finally, the Sabres\nwon a faceoff (they weren't that hot in this dept the rest of the game)\nwhen LaFontaine scooped at the puck 3 times.  When Hawerchuck took his\nshot (quite a boomer, but Blue stopped this one) he took a few steps\nover to get his own rebound and slapped at it again, without setting\nit up.  I didn't realize it went in until the announcer started screaming,\n\"They score, THEY SCORE!!!\".  The best was seeing LaFontaine jumping\nup and down, skating a little bit, jumping some more, and then skating\nover to Brad May who he jumped on.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nSomeone on the minor league mailing list probably does. \n\n\nI do, but I don't have time to type the whole thing in (I don't mind looking\nup specific date ranges or individual games when I can, but there are\nlimits). \n\nBesides, this stuff is EASY to find. Baseball America puts out a book called\nthe Directory. It's $10(US). Has every team's data and schedule in it. If I\nWERE to type in the whole scheudle, I'd just be spending a lot of time\ninfringing on their copyright.\n\nFolks who are interested in the minors should check out my minor league list\n(see the signature), and folks who are tracking down team schedules should\nchec out the BA Directory. You can order it from 800-845-2726. I find it\nindispenable.\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"i need to know about the market for cellular antenna\ntechnology today... who are the main companies in the\nmarket.. how much are they selling them for? who are the\ncontact people?  what are the specs?\n\nI will mail oyou our reserach so far if youcan help us!!\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nActually, the 295 is for the 33 MHz PowerCard, not the Universal Powercache.\nThe 33 MHz Universal Powercache with FPU and adaptor can be had for about\n$500 (still not a bad deal).  I believe the Powercard is one generation \nolder than the Universal Powercache, and the one primary difference is that\nthe Powercard is machine specific while the Powercache can fit into many\nMacs with the proper adaptor.  Both cards are 68030 based.\n\nI'm not sure if the hardware or software with the Powercard is otherwise \ndifferent from the Powercache (perhaps someone could enlighten me?).\n\nI would also add that I called River Computer the other night and these\nPowercards were going very fast.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nTriQuint (Beaverton, Oregon), has been selling an 8 bit, 1 GHz D to A\nfor several years.  I have used it and it works well, faster settling\ntime and smaller glitch area than any video d DACs I have seen.  Also,\nthey have been developing a more precise version that may be for sale\nnow - it's somewhere in the 10 to 12 bit area at 1 GHz.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Could someone please tell me if the 486SLC and 486SLC2 processors\nIBM is putting in their Thinkpad 700's and other PC's is a REAL\n486 with a math coprocessor or if it is really some Kludge that\nshould not be called a 486 at all?\n\nThanks,\nEric","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Re: serious discussion about drugs vs. \"Where can I get a good bong, man?\"","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Tuesday's game of Beloved Yakult Swallows\n\n(At Jingu, 36,000)\nHanshin Tigers   001 000 100 |2\nBeloved Yakult   050 020 00x |7\n\nW - Ito (1-0). L - Nakagomi (0-1). HR - Yakult, Arai 1st.\n------------------------------------------------------------\nCENTRAL LEAGUE STANDING\n========================\n                        W   L   T   Pct.   GB\nHiroshima Carp          7   1   0   .875   --\nChunichi  Dragons       6   3   0   .667   1.5\nHanshin   Tigers        5   4   0   .667   2.5\nHated     Giants        4   4   0   .500   3.0\nBeloved   Swallows      3   6   0   .333   4.5\nYokohama  BayStars      1   8   0   .111   6.5\n---------------------------------------------------------------\n\n\n--","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Friend's unpleasant experience uring CT scan deleted\n\nI'd suggest writing a detailed letter about the incident to the\nhospital administrator. Specify the date and time. If possible the\nnames of the technicians. \n\nSend a copy to the clinician under whose care your friend was\nadmitted. I say this because, though your friend has no argument\nwith the doctor, I have found that administrators sometimes ignore\ncomplaints until the patient becomes litigious. Clinicians may not\nhave been informed of the complaint and are very surprised to find\nthemselves named in a suit.\n\nIf there is no response within a week send a follow up letter.\nAttach a photocopy of the original letter. Do this weekly until you\ndo get a response.\n\nCAT scans are non-invasive but they can be very scary. The scanner\ncan be a bad place for the claustrophobic. There was an interesting\nstudy in the BMJ, about 10 years ago, which found that around 10% of\npeople who had CAT scans found it so unpleasant that they would\nnever have another. This compares with 15% who said the same about a\nlumbar puncture. ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nOh, yes he did.  You may not agree with his premises, and what he proved may\nnot apply to \"reality\" (if such a thing exists), but he certainly proved\nsomething.\n\n\nGot it in one.  Similarly, a moral relativist will not judge one moral system\nto be better than another in every possible circumstance.  This does not,\nhowever, preclude him from judging one moral system to be better than another\nin a specific set of circumstances.  Nor does it preclude a set of moral\nrelativists from collectively judging a moral system, from some set of\ncircumstances which they all agree they are in.\n\n\nEh?  Could you explain this?  Which \"that statement\" are you talking about?\n\n\nI still don't quite see what you're trying to say.  I assume by \"values\" you\nmean moral values, yes?  In which case, what do you mean by \"real\"?  What is\na \"real\" moral value, as opposed to an unreal one?\n\n\nSorry, but in what way is it an infinite regress?  It looks extremely finite\nto me.\n\n\nSorry, but that's not so.  I can provide a justification for asserting that\nthe moral system of the terrorist is inferior to that of the man of peace.  I\njust can't provide a justification which works in all possible circumstances.\n\nSimilarly, I can provide a justification for asserting that bullets move\nfaster than snails.  That justification won't hold in all possible frames of\nreference, but it will hold in almost all the frames of reference I am ever\nlikely to be in.\n\n\nI don't think I agree with this.  My saying it *does* make it so *from my\npoint of view* and according to *my premises*, unless the argument is invalid.\nIt may indeed not make it so from your point of view, but I never claimed\nthat it did.  In fact, I don't even claim that you exist enough to have a\npoint of view.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I have a Standard Computer 486DX2\/66mhz EISA Tower with 16MB RAM, a Quantum 240MB Hard Drive, 1.2 and 1.44 MB floppies and a Colorado 250MB tape drive. I also have a Sound Blaster Pro and a 3COM Ethernet card (3C507) installed. The machine is completely stable in non-Turbo mode. In Turbo mode, Windows for Workgroups crashes or won't come up at all. If Windows does come up, I get General Protection Faults and Divide by Zero System Errors. Is there a problem with memory keeping up with the speed of the CPU o\n\n\n\nn these machines?\n\nI have tried to reach Standard Computers, but their phones have been disconnected.\nDoes anyone know what happened to this company?\nYAMOHS- Yet Another Mail Order Horror Story!","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I'd appreciate any help anyone could give me on these two questions:\n \nThe Brady Bill was in the news throughout 1992 but what actually happened to\nit in Congress?  Did Bush veto it?  If so, when?\n \nAlso, the state of Virginia, I believe, just passed a gun control bill on\nFebrauary 25 of this year.  I think it limits gun purchases to one a month -\nis this correct?  What was the bill number?","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nI can't answer all our questions in detail, but I can take a stab at\nthem.\n\nThe form the operations that compute R1, R2, and R3 is, of course, the\nfamous ``triple encryption'' suggested for use with DES.  It's much\nstronger than a single encryption, and has an effective key length of\n160 bits.  For reasons that were discussed when DES was first\nstandardized, a simple double encryption would not have the same\nstrength.  Triple encryption has been used by IBM since more or less\nthe beginning to encrypt other keys.  It's recommended for anything of\nvery high value.  And I think we can agree that the R_i and S_i fit\nthat description.\n\nWhy n_1, n_2, and n_3?  Well, you need different plaintext values.  I\nhave no idea if they'll be disclosed or not.  At a guess, they're\nconstructed so that they differ in as many bit positions as possible.\nA goo cryptosystem will scramble things a lot with even a 1-bit change\n-- but the values of N in a series will have fairly similar bit\npatterns, and there might, conceivably, be a weakness.  So the n_i\nvalues are -- and I'm guessing -- chosen to increase the Hamming\ndistance.\n\nIn any event, I'm quite convinced that one cannot go back to the S_i\nfrom the U_i, let alone U.  (Observe:  if the NSA has U, they don't\nneed to find S_i.  But even if they do, they can't get U_1 and U_2.  In\ntheory, they should never even see those values, even with a warrant.)\n\nThe real question, I think, is why use this scheme at all, as opposed\nto a hardware random number generator.  My answer is that this is\n*much* more verifiable.  Look -- suppose that NSA, NIST, the ACLU, the\nEFF, and the NRA combined to build a *really* good random number\ngenerator, and that it passed every test you could think of.  When you\ncome back next week to program some more chips, does it still work that\nwell?  Have any components changed in value?  Have the components been\nchanged out from under you?  Does it still work well the in the\npresence of a focused microwave beam that tends to bias it towards\nselecting 1 bits?  Yes, you can run detailed statistical tests on it\nagain, but that's hard.\n\nConsider, on the other hand, a software solution.  You bring your own\nfloppies with you, you can run cryptographic checksums, etc.  It's a\nlot easier to verify that the software is unchanged, in other words.\n(Yes, I can think of ways to cheat software, too.  I think that they're\na lot harder.)\n\nThere are three issues with Clipper.  The first is whether or not the\narchitecture of the whole scheme is capable of working.  My answer,\nwith one significant exception, is yes.  I really do think that NSA and\nNIST have designed this scheme about as well as can be, assuming that\ntheir real objectives are as stated: to permit wiretapping, under\ncertain carefully-controlled circumstances, with a minimum risk of\nabuse.  (The exception is that U exists outside of the chip, on a\nprogramming diskette.  That's seriously wrong.  U_1 and U_2 should be\nloaded onto the chip separately.)  To those who disagree (and I don't\nclaim my answer is obvious, though I found my own reasoning\nsufficiently persuasive that I was forced to rewrite the Conclusions\nsection of my technical analysis paper -- I had originally blasted the\nscheme), I issue this invitation:  assume that you were charged with\nimplementing such a system, with complete regard for civil rights and\ndue process.  What would you do differently?  In answering this\nquestion, please accept NSA's fundamental assumptions:  that both\nstrong cryptography against outsiders, and the ability to wiretap\n*some* domestic users, is necessary.  (If you feel it necessary to\nchallenge those assumptions, do it in the context of the last issue I\npresent below.  Right here, I'm discussing *just* the technical\naspects.  And no, I don't by any means claim that just because\nsomething can be done, it should be.)\n\nThe second issue is whether or not this whole architecture is actually\ngoing to be used.  Just because Clipper chips are made this way doesn't\nmean that that's the only way they'll be made.  Maybe the NSA will\nsubstitute its own chips between the programming facility and the\nshipping dock.  And they'll generate bogus warrant requests, so that\nthe escrow agents don't wonder why they've never called.  (``Sorry,\nguys; all them terrorists and drug dealers and pedophiles seem to have\nbought triple-DES phones instead.  Who'd 'a' thunk it?'')  I have no\nanswer to this question, and at the moment, I don't see a way of\nanswering it.  Those concerns are part of my reasoning in my answer\nto the final question, below.\n\nThe third, and most serious issue, is whether or not Clipper is a good\nidea even if carried out strictly according to the letter of the law.\nI think that the answer is no, but it's not a no-brainer.  I'm a civil\nlibertarian, not a libertarian, for reasons that I explained at great\nlength on the net in the Elder Days, and that I don't have the energy\nto repeat now.  But that means that I'm willing to accept that some\nlaws are necessary, so long as they respect the essential rights of\nindividuals.  The government already has the ability and -- in our\nsystem -- the right to issue search warrants, and while that power has\ncertainly been abused, it's also been used quite properly and fairly in\nother cases.  Is key escrow sufficiently different?  I think so -- but\nagain, it's not an easy question for me.  (It is easy for libertarians\nto answer, of course, since Clipper is completely alien to much of the\nrest of their (oft-admirable) philosophy.  And it's also easy for those\nwho give their unreserved trust to government, a group I'm much more\ndistant from.)\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nbig Capacitor :-)   Real Big  capacitor.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nFrom a parallel thread.  Much about definitions of bombs, etc. deleted.\n[...]\n\n\nMathew, I agree.  This, it seems, is the crux of your whole position,\nisn't it?  That the US shouldn't have supported Hussein and sold him arms\nto fight Iran?  I agree.  And I agree in ruthlessly hunting down those\nwho did or do.  But we *did* sell arms to Hussein, and it's a done deal.\nNow he invades Kuwait.  So do we just sit back and say, \"Well, we sold\nhim all those arms, I suppose he just wants to use them now.  Too bad\nfor Kuwait.\"  No, unfortunately, sitting back and \"letting things be\"\nis not the way to correct a former mistake.  Destroying Hussein's\nmilitary potential as we did was the right move.  But I agree with\nyour statement, Reagan and Bush made a grave error in judgment to\nsell arms to Hussein.  So it's really not the Gulf War you abhor\nso much, it was the U.S.'s and the West's shortsightedness in selling\narms to Hussein which ultimately made the war inevitable, right?\n\nIf so, then I agree.\n\n[more deleted.]\n\nRegards,","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\tGood for you.  I am convinced that someone should start a boycott \nagainst GEICO.  Any takers?\n\n\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nYes -- great chapter.  Elizabeth Friedman (sp?) comes shining through.\n\nHowever, the chapter also notes that these rum runners invented their own\ncrypto -- hired ex-military folks, in fact.  (How's that for a revolving\ndoor?)\n\nNow, given that today's rum runners (coke runners, actually) have even more\nmoney than yesterday's, it's reasonable to expect them to have even better\ncryptography.  I doubt they have a chip foundry of their own yet, but ....\n\nSo, my question of the FBI\/NIST\/NSA is: \"How are you going to make the rum\nrunners use the Clipper Chip?\"\n\nAnswer:  \tyou're not.\n\nQuestion:\tOK -- in that case, your justification for taking away our\n\t\trights has evaporated.  How do you justify our loss of rights\n\t\tif you can't use the drug dealers and terrorists?\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nThe prob is that you're wrong.\nNewbie here.\nI just got off the phone with a salesman\nthat showed by newbieness.\n\nIf I remember what he said correctly:\nGSXR250 - no such thing\nCBR250 - NO.   Its CB250.\nFZR250 - no such thing.\n\nMost sport bikes don't have 250 versions.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nBut the NSA will not be doing any wiretapping.  The actual wiretapping will,\npresumably, be conducted by the FBI.  Of course, the capability for this was\nprovided by the NSA, but I think that they are still within the limitations\nof their charter.\n\nI realize this is a fine point, and some may differ, but this is my opinion.\nAlthough I don't care for Clipper and won't support or use it, I don't see\nthe NSA as having overstepped their bounds.\n\nDavid R. Conrad\t\t\"No his mind is not for rent\/To any god or government\"","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Has anybody built an X11R5 server that can run on a Personal Decstation\n5000 line with ultrix 4.3?  The only catch is that being \"personal\" machines,\nwe did not install DECnet onto them, which the Xdec server on gatekeeper\nrequires.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nLook for information about 567 tone decoder chip. It is an easy to use\nchip for detecting sound of certain frequency. You need only one\n567 and some other componets for each led you want to control.\nThe chip can take the voltage levels, which the casette gives.\nRadio Shack Archer Semiconductor Reference Guide gives good information\nhow to use that chip. It should be simplest way to go. The chip costs\nsomething like 1-2 $.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Dana H. Myers, on the Tue, 20 Apr 93 19:51:16 GMT wibbled:\n: >\n: >>duck. Squids don't wave, or return waves ever, even to each\n: >       ^^^^^^\n: >    excuse me for being an ignoramus, but what are these.\n\n\n: Squids are everybody but me and you.  Chris Behanna is especially a squid.\n\n:  * Dana H. Myers\n\nI'm a BMW Squid.  Two of my arms are longer, too.\n--\n\nNick (the BS Biker)   DoD 1069   Concise Oxford   Longer Arms\n\nM'Lud.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"     writes...\n\n\n\n\nI hesitate to make assumptions about other people when they write, but\nneither of you two *sound* as though you have kids, and you may not have\nspouses either.\n\nConsider a night game starting at 7:05 PM EST.  (It was 7:35 last year,\nbut Cleveland showed what I thought was good sense in pushing it back.)\nI go, and I'm into it until 11 PM minimum.  Extra innings could put me\nwell past midnight.  Even without extra innings, if the score is beyond\n2-1 I can't see my family that night at all.  If the next day is a workday,\nI may have to bag that as well.  Further, the later the game goes, the\ncolder it gets on the shore of Lake Erie.\n\nAll that stuff enters into my consideration of even going to a game.  If\nyou say you don't care about whether the game is sped up, IMPO you are \nsaying you don't care where the time goes, and that the game is for people\nwho don't have families and don't have to get up for work the next day.\n\nRG","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Brand NEW 1.2GB Seagate SCSI hard drive\n15ms access time, Full Height 5-1\/4\" size\nOnly $1100 +s\/h.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"-*----\nSci.med removed from followups.  (And I do not read any of the\nother newsgroups.)\n\n-*----\n\nThat's fine.  These words have multiple meanings.\n\nAs a self-proclaimed atheist, I believe that *some* conceptions\nof god are inconsistent or in conflict with fact, and I lack\nbelief in other conceptions of god merely because there is no\nreason for me to believe in these.  I usually use the word\nagnostic to mean someone who believes that the existence of\na god is unknown inherently unknowable.  Note that this is a\npositive belief that is quite different from not believing in a\ngod; I do not believe in a god, but I also do not believe the\nagnostic claim.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n[Useless road design, speed rate discussion deleted.]\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":" \n\"savior\" \nthat \ntheir\n\nTolerent, aren't we?  Their's was hardly the first faith\/sect\/cult \nto espouse this type of belief.\n\nand\n\nI keep hearing this, and while I'll agree that he \"should\" have come\nout (legally, that was his best option), he didn't; and as far as I know,\nthere is no legal provision for \"we're tired of this shit, lets just\nkick some ass...\"\n\nSo I have a question for you; here goes.\n\nI come up to you and point a gun at you, saying \"I'm going to count\nto ten, if you aren't standing on your head by then, I'll kill you.\"\nYou believe that standing on your head is the road to damnation, so\nyou don't do it.\n\"1..2..3..4..5..6..7..8..9..10...BANG!\"  You are now dead - Is it my\nfault for shooting you, or you're fault for being shot?\nKoresh wouldn't stand on his head.  ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nThis is a whole different situation.  If aliens were able to get here prior\nto us being able to get there, one might conclude that they would be more advanced\nand therefore \"more intelegent\" that we are.  However if we get somewhere where there\nis life, chances are we wont be able to communicate with them.  So we will have\nno clue as to weather they are \"intelegent\" or not.\n\n\nThat's a good point, I hadn't thought of it that way.  My question however was\nmore along the lines of... Every year the US spends millions of tax dollars\nand giving tax breaks to individuals and companies who feed the poor of foreign\ncountries while thousands of our own people sleep on the streets at night.\nWould we give to the economicly dissadvantaged on another planet if we hadn't resolved\nthese issues on our own?\n\n\nBut... Your comment brings up another good question.  Over the years we have decided\nthat certain cultures need improvements.  The native americans is a good example.  Prior\nto our attempt to civilize them, the native american culture had very little crime, no\nhomelessnes, no poverty.  Then the europeans came along and now they have those and\nmore.  If we encounter life elsewhere, do we tell them they have to live in houses, farm\nthe land and go to church on sunday?\n-- \nHave a day,","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThat is an exceptionally cool idea.\nWould it work?\n\nHow strong a field is needed?\nAnyone?\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Well, the Opel deal fell through...\n\nNow i'm looking at a Datsun 240Z for sale in our local buy&sell.  Any\nprevious owners have any experience with these cars?  Besides looking\nfor rust,good compression,low miles, and all the other usual car\nthings one looks for, is there anything special about these cars that\nI should watch out for?\n\nHow about things like handling,performance,mileage,etc.  These cars\nlook hot, to my eyes at least, and bear more than a passing\nresemblance to the Aston Martin DB4 Zagato(sp?), which has to be one\nof the most beatiful cars ever made.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Hello there.  The other day I was feeling a tad nostalgic and thought\nabout constructing an old-time crytal radio set.  I figured on\nsubstituting a modern germanium diode for the crystal, and winding the\nantenna coil, etc., myself.\n\nThe only problem I seem to have is in locating a source for a tuning\ncapacitor -- you know, the old meshed-plate variable condensers which\nused to be the mainstay for tuning circuits.  Well these things seem to\nbe all but extinct in their original catalog habitats.  Trimmer\ncapacitors are relatively abundant, but are not really suitable for this\napplication.\n\nSo, can anyone point me to a supplier of tuning capacitors in the \n0--360 pF range?\n\nManythanks.\n\n-- ","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Hey, I want my posts forwarded too.  I can't get my sysadmin to pay\nany attention to me.\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"A very good R&B group came out in 1988 called the Pasadenas.  I bought their\ncassette single and fell in love with it.  I've tried to find their LP\nor CD but have had no success whatsoever.  Just wondering whether anyone\nout in Netland had heard of them....\n\ntheir song that hit the charts was called Tribute...\n\n\nthanks!\n\nJay....","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Does anybody know about a converter from CGM to PCX or anything else more\ncommon.  I've spent some time searching the archives with no luck.\nCould you email me your responses.\n\n\n\n                 Thx in advance,\n                         Mike G.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"We are adding a Motif wrapper to a family of data display programs.\n\nThese programs are each written as a 'main loop' with these steps:\n- use semop to check a semaphore and if true access new data\n  otherwise block (new data comes quite often)\n- use msgop to check for messages and if true read them\n  otherwise continue (messages are user commands and not often)\n- update the display according to latest data and messages.\n\nWe typically have several of these running in windows,\nplus a data producer serving some device and setting the flag.\nEveryone blocking makes sure the device server gets to run.\n\nXt and Xm also have a 'main loop' model that we must fit into.\nO'Reilly Vol IV Ch 9 discusses adding a file-watcher and also\nhow to add workprocs that are run during idle time.\n\nWe can 'open-up' our existing main loop and call it as a workproc.\nThe problem is our blocking until new data is no longer appropriate.\nNeither is letting the program free-run because others are hurt.\n\nThe unix select call lets you block until any of several i\/o are ready.\nWe want that for the X main loop except not file i\/o.\nAny suggestions or examples most welcome!\n\nWe run SGI Personal Iris and Indigo systems.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nYes, it looks like very good indeed.\n\n\nNope.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nThis is the fifth request to find out about a Cardinals mailing list.\nIt looks like one does not exist.  If anyone has the initiative, \ncreating a list might be a worthwhile activity.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":": The willingness of true believers\n: to die for their belief, be it in Jesus or Jim Jones, is\n: well-documented, so martyrdom in and of itself says little.\n\nIt does say something about the depth of their belief.  Religion has\nboth deluded believers and con men.  The difference is often how far\nthey will follow their beliefs.\n\nI have no first hand, or even second hand, knowledge of how the \noriginal apostles died.  If they began a myth in hopes of exploiting\nit for profit, and followed that myth to the death, that would be\ninconsistent.  Real con men would bail out when it was obvious it would \nlead to discomfort, pain and death.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nIt's the applications that do this.  Unfortunately, even the applets\nthat ship with Win31 seem to have this problem (I've seen it in\nSolitaire, for example).  \n\n\nNone that I know of.  If an application doesn't give back the\nresources, they are lost and gone forever, pending a restart of\nWindows. \n\n\nIf the applications don't free up the memory (and a lot of them\ndon't), there's bugger all that any other piece of software can do\nabout it.\n\n\nNo.  This is a problem with the applications, usually.\n\n\nThere are books written on this one.  In general, just be sure to free\nup everything that you ask for before you exit.  Unfortunately, I\nunderstand that VB will *internally* lose resources for you, so\nthere's no way to avoid this entirely.\n\n\n\nThere's little discussion because it's 'inevitable' until MS manages\nto come up with an OS that will do garbage collection or something on\nthe resource pool.\n\n-- \n\"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live\n in the real world.\"   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nThat's right.  Despite claims that someone at Kent State fire a shotgun\nat the the soldiers, the only projectiles that anyone can prove where\nsent in the direction of the soldiers were rocks.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nSince this is alt.atheism, I hope you don't mind if we strongly disagree...\n\n: The fact is God could cause you to believe anything He wants you to. \n: But think about it for a minute.  Would you rather have someone love\n: you because you made them love you, or because they wanted to\n: love you.     The responsibility is on you to love God and take a step toward\n: Him.  He promises to be there for you, but you have to look for yourself.\n\nIndeed, \"knock and it shall be opened to you\". Dan, why didn't this work?\nI firmly believed in god for 15 years, but I eventually realised I was\nonly deluding myself, fearful to face the truth. Ultimately, the only reason\nwhat kept me believing was the fear of hell. The mental states I \nhad sillily attributed to divine forces or devil's attempts to \ndestroy my faith were nothing more than my imagination, and it is easy\nto achieve the same mental states at will. \n\nMy faith was just learned fear in a disguise.\n\n: Those who doubt this or dispute it have not givin it a sincere effort.\n\nGod is demanding too much. Dan, what was it I believed in for 15 years?\nIf sincere effort is equivalent to active suspension of disbelief -\nwhat it was in my case - I'd rather quit. If god does not help me to\nkeep the faith, I can't go on. \n\nBesides, I am concerned with god's morality and mental health. Does\nshe really want us to _believe_ in herself without any help (revelations,\nguidance, or anything I can feel)? If she has created us, why didn't\nshe make the task any easier? Why are we supposed to love someone who\nrefuses to communicate with us? What is the point of eternal torture\nfor those who can't believe?\n\nI love god just as much as she loves me. If she wants to seduce me,\nshe'll know what to do. \n\n: Simple logic arguments are folly.  If you read the Bible you will see\n: that Jesus made fools of those who tried to trick him with \"logic\".\n: Our ability to reason is just a spec of creation.  Yet some think it is\n: the ultimate.  If you rely simply on your reason then you will never\n: know more than you do now. \n\nYour argument is of the type \"you'll know once you try\".\nYet there are many atheists who have sincerely tried, and believed\nfor many years, but were eventually honest enough to admit that \nthey had lived in a virtual reality.\n\nWhat else but reason I can use? I don't have the spiritual means \nChristians often refer to. My conscience disagrees with the Bible.\nI don't even believe I have a soul. I am fully dependent on my\nbody - indeed, I _am_ this body. When it goes up with flames, so\ndoes my identity. God can entertain herself with copies of me\nif she wants.\n\n: To learn you must accept that which you don't know.\n\nWhat does this mean? To learn you must accept that you don't know \nsomething, right-o. But to learn you must _accept_ something I don't\nknow, why? This is not the way I prefer to learn. It is unwise to\nmerely swallow everything you read. Suppose I write a book telling\nhow the Great Invisible Pink Unicorn (tm) has helped me in my\ndaily problems, would you accept this, since you can't know whether\nit is true or not?\n\nNote that the GIPU is also omnipotent, omnipresent, and loves just\nabout everyone. Besides, He (and She) is guiding every writer on this planet,\nyou and me, and not just some people who write legendary stories\n2000 years ago.\n\nYour god is just one aspect of His and Her Presence.\n\nPetri\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nNo, they do not work well.  My doctor started using one recently, and I\nthought the concept was so amazing that I bought one too.  \n\nThe thing works by reading the infrared emissions from the ear drum.\nThe ear drum is hotter than the ear canal walls, so you have to point\nthe thing very carefully.  This means tugging on the top of the ear\nto straighten out the ear canal, then inserting the thing snugly, then\npushing a button.  Unfortunately, there are many things that can go wrong.\nIt is almost impossible to aim the thing correctly when you do it on \nyourself.  I get readings which differ from each other by up to 2 degrees,\nand may differ from an oral thermometer by up to 2 degrees.  \n\nI talked to one of the nurses in my doctor's office recently about this,\nand she said she didn't like them either, for same reasons.  She did give\nme some instruction on how to tug on my ear, and what correct insertion\nfeels like, but she said she thought it was impossible to do correctly\non one's self.  She also said that she and other nurses had complained to\nthe company about inaccurate readings, and that someone from the company\nhad told them to take great care to clean the infrared window at the end\nof the probe with alcohol from time to time.  She demonstrated this prior\nto reading my temperature, and managed to get a reading within 0.5 degree\nof the oral temperature I took at home before driving to the Dr's office.\n\nI have also noticed tha some nurses click the button, then remove the\nprobe immediately.  This causes wrong readings.  In my experience, you\nhave to leave the probe in a good 1 to 2 seconds after clicking the button\nto get a good measurement.  The nurse I talked with agreed.  I suspect\nthat many people don't realize this, and therefore get bad readings for\nyet another reason.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson) writes...\n\n\nThe rest of the story seems to be that the agreement for the broadcast\nwas for prime-time, and that Koresh never even heard it played. Wasn't\neven tuned in to the radio when it aired -- so no reason to come out.\n\nIf later they had given him a copy of the grossly twisted newswire \ntranscript -- I'm certain Koresh would think he was at the mercy of\nevil itself. \n\nAs to coming out after Passover, wasn't that just one of the lawyer's\nspeculations Peter?","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nIs this \"White House e-mail address\" really working yet? Someone\nposted such an address on CompuServe a few months ago, but apparently\nthe White House wasn't really set up to recive hundreds (thousands?)\nof messages a day to that account and didn't want people to use it\nyet. So is this MCI address something the people at the White House\nactually read, or is it another Craig Shergold story? I don't know --\nI'm just asking.\n\nUnless the people at the White House print and distribute this mail\nevery day, you may have better luck printing out a letter (on paper,\nthat flat white stuff all over my desk) and Snail-Mailing it to the\nWhite House. I imagine writing to your local representative and\nsenator wouldn't hurt either. Heck, why not write to Al Gore while\nyou're at it?\n\n\t\t\t\tgreg\t\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nAs I understand, that number is deceptive.  The reason is that the money\ncost was in non-oil sales for the most part.  Iraq still is not allowed\nto sell oil, or do many of the things under the initial sanctions, but\nis still surviving.\n\n\nOf the ~93% (I have heard figures closer to 80%, but I won't quibble your\nfigures), most was dropped in carpet bombing of regions only occupied by\nenemy troops.  A B-52 drops a lot of bombs in one sortie, and we used them\naround the clock.  Not to mention other smaller aircraft using dumb\nmunitions.  \n\n2.  The Patriot uses a proximity fuse.  The adjusted figures for number\nof Patriot kills of SS-1 derivitives is ~60-70%.  That figure came\nnot from some fluke in the Pentagon, but a someone working with such\nstuff in another part of DoD.\n\n3.  The statement precision bombing was the norm, is true around areas\nwhere civilians were close to the target.  We dropped by tonnage very\nlittle bombs in populated regions, explaining the figures.  \n\n\nThis figure, is far below all the other figures I have seen.  If it\nis indeed accurate, then how do you explain the discrepancy between\nthat figure, and other figures from international organizations?\nMost figures I have seen place the hit ratio close to 70%, which is \nstill far higher than your 35%.  Or does your figure say a bomb\nmissed if the plane took off with it, and the bomb never hit the target,\nregardless of whether or not the bomb was dropped?  Such methods\nare used all the time to lie with statistics.\n\n\nI have _never_ seen any source that was claiming such a figure.  Please\npost the source so its reliability can be judged.  \n\n\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nHey!  What's this?  We agree!\n\nNo platoon advantage (Sabo vs. Samuel).\n\nBoth players have a reputation of being excellent fastball hitters,\n\tand both have a reputation of being fooled too often with\n\tslow curves and change ups.\n\nSabo has more power, and a little bit of a better batting eye.  Samuel\n\tis noted as an agressive free-swinger.  Sabo has more homerun power.\n\nBoth players started the game hitting below .200.  \n\nThere may have been some game considerations that might have prompted\n\tPerez to want to reserve Samuel for use later.  But the game\n\t*was* on the line, and Samuel never did get in.\n\nGiven all of this, I don't see a lot to suggest pinch-hitting, nor do\nI see anything to suggest no pinch-hitting.  There is, of course, the\nclutch-hitting information.  But if that's useless...\n\nThen again.  If it's not...\n\n\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nI'd hardly call the current Pluto Fast Flyby proposal \"too large\" (if the\nnew technology insertion currently taking place succeeds, the S\/C mass will\ndrop to 110-120 kg) or \"too expensive\" ($400 million [FY92 $] for two S\/C),\nespecially when compared to other NASA planetary missions.\n\n\nThis proposal would work only if your various targets are relaively nearby and\nthe require minimal delta-v from the mother ship.  A mission to the main belt\nmight be one possibility for such a mission -- I recall a paper being presented\nat an AIAA deisgn conference in Irvine in February where such a proposed\nspacecraft was designed by some grad students at UT Austin (I think).  Four\nmini-spacecraft would detatch from the main S\/C, each visiting a seperate\nasteroid and then returning to the main S\/C.  After analysis, the main S\/C\nwould then be targeted for the most \"interesting\" object for further study.\n\nNow, if I could only *find* that paper...  =)\n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":": >|> >(2)   Having Bonds batting behind Williams means that Matt will get\n: >|> >      more good pitches to hit.  This is important since he struggles\n: >|> >      so much with breaking balls.  Opposing pitchers don't want to\n: >|> >      walk Williams to get to Bonds.\n: >\n: >I have to wonder if this \"good hitter behind you\" argument is really valid.\n: >Has anyone done a study on this. \n:\n: \tYou want a study? Look at Matt Williams the year after\n: \tMitchell was gone. Look no further. Not a scientific\n: \tstudy, but it'll show the truth for Matt. Besides, Bonds\n: \t_wants_ to bat 5th\n\nI had thought that Williams batted after Mitchell.  Wouldn't that show that\nWilliams does better at 5th rather than 4th?\n\nThe point is moot, though, becase Clark pretty much demands to be 3rd\nand, like you point out, Bonds does like to bat 5th.  The only person\nleft to bat 4th is Williams.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"It's about time the boys got it together!!\nThey were outworked and outplayed by the Wings in the first two games.\nBut Burns must have kicked their behinds cause they sure came out in full\ngear (or is that high gear?) in game 3.  Except for a 10-15 minute stretch\nin the 2nd period, they outskated and outworked the Wings.  Please don't\nflame this statement 'cos you know it's true!  I have to admit that \ngoaltending was the key.  Potvin kept the Leafs ahead during the sleepy\nstretch the Leafs went through in the 2nd.  He also kept the rebounds to a\nminimum, something that cost Cheveldae 2 goals.  Clark even looked like\nhe had stopped moping (first star!), although I still don't know why he\nwas so flat in games 1 and 2.\n\nIf the Leafs play the same style and can keep the pace they had in game\n3, they may actually have a chance of winning this series (a slim chance, \nbut a chance....I'm no RM.....where is he anyways? haha).","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"It is NOT a homeopathic remedy. Improvement began in a few months.\nI am allergic to bermuda grass and if anyone nearby was mowing a lawn\nmy nose would start to run.  Now I can walk right by and it doesn't bother\nme at all.  The same success with desert ragweed.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"This is not flame, or abuse, nor do I want to start another thread (this\nis, after all, supposed to be about IMAGE PROCESSING).","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I have often thought about, if its possible to have a powerfull laser\non earth, to light at the Moon, and show lasergraphics at the surface\nso clearly that you can see it with your eyes when there is a new\nmoon.\n\nHow about a Coca Cola logo at the moon, easy way to target billions of\npeople.\n\nDo you know if its possible?\n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"[I write:]\n#>>> Imagine that 1000000 Alterian dollars turn up in your bank account every\n#>>> month. Suppose further that this money is being paid to you by (a) your \n#>>> big-hearted Alterian benefactor, or (b) a bug in an Alterian ATM.  Let's\n#>>> suppose that this is a true dichotomy, so P(a)+P(b)=1. Trouble is, Alterius \n#>>> is in a different universe, so that no observations of Alterius are possible\n#>>> (except for the banks - you couldn't possibly afford it ;-)\n#>>> \n#>>> Now let's examine the case for (a).  There is no evidence whatsoever that\n#>>> there is any such thing as a big-hearted Alterian benefactor. However,\n#>>> P(exists(b-h A b)) + P(not(exists(b-h A b)) = 1. On the grounds that \n#>>> lack_of_evidence_for is evidence_against when we have a partition like\n#>>> that, we dismiss hypothesis (a).\n#>>>\n#>>> Turning, therefore, to (b), we also find no evidence to support that\n#>>> hypothesis.  On the same grounds as before, we dismiss hypothesis (b).\n#>>>\n#>>> The problem with this is that we have dismissed *all* of the possible\n#>>> hypotheses, and even though we know by construction that the money \n#>>> arrives every month, we have proven that it can't, because we\n#>>> have dismissed all of its potential causes.\n#\n#>> That's an *extremely* poor argument, and here's why.\n#>>\n#>> Premise 1: \"...this money is being paid to you by [either] (a) your big-\n#>>             hearted Alterian benefactor, or (b) a bug in an Alterian ATM\".\n#>> \n#>> Thus each monthly appearance of the bucks, should it happen, is an\n#>> observation on Alterius, and by construction, is evidence for the\n#>> existence of [either the benefactor or the bug in the ATM].\n#>> \n#>> Premise 2: no observations on Alterius are possible.\n#\n#>     #> (except for the banks - you couldn't possibly afford it ;-)\n#>\n#> You forgot to include this.  My premise is actually:\n#>\n#> Premise 2:  The cardinality of the set of possible observations on Alterius\n#>             is one.\n#\n#>> This is clearly contradictory to the first.\n#\n#> Not if you state it properly.\n#\n#>> Trouble is, on the basis of premise 2, you say that there can be no evidence\n#>> of [either the benefactor or the bug], but the first premise leads to the\n#>> conclusion that the appearance of the bucks, should it happen, is evidence\n#>> for the existence of [either the benefactor or the bug].\n#>> \n#>> Voila, a screaming contradiction.\n#\n#[with my highlights - SC]\n#> But in a strawman argument. There is only evidence for OneOf(Benefactor,Bug).\n#> No observation to distinguish Benefactor from Bug is possible. That is\n#> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\n#> not evidence for Bug, and neither is it evidence for Benefactor. Nor\n#> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\n#> is true to say that this hypothetical universe appears exactly as\n#> if there were no Benefactor\/Bug (two statements, both would be false).\n#\n#This is still contradictory. It reduces to\n#\n#  (1): Alterian dosh arriving in my account is due to [benefactor or bug].\n#\n#  (2): this is not evidence for [benefactor], neither is it evidence for\n#       [bug] (meaning that it doesn't lend more weight to one than to the\n#       other)\n#\n#  (3): therefore no evidence can exist for [benefactor] and no evidence\n#       can exist for [bug].\n#\n#But (3) relies on a shift in meaning from (2). When you say (paraphrased)\n#in (2) that this is not \"evidence for [benefactor]\", for example, what you\n#mean is that it's no *more* evidence for [benefactor] than it is for [bug].\n\nYes, that's what I mean.\n\n#In (3), however, you've shifted the meaning of \"evidence for [benefactor]\"\n#so that it now means `absolute' \"evidence for [benefactor]\" rather than\n#`relative' \"evidence for [benefactor]\" w.r.t. [bug].\n\nNot really, I meant evidence that would tend to one over the other.  I\nthink this is just a communications problem.   What I am trying to say,\nin my clumsy way, is that while I buy your theory as far as it relates\nto theism making predictions (prayer, your 'Rapture' example), I don't\nbuy your use of Occam's razor in all cases where A=0.\n\nIn my example, one couldn't dismiss\n[benefactor] or [bug] on the grounds of simplicity - one of these is necessary\nto explain the dosh.  I brought up the 'one-by-one dismissal' process to\nshow that it would be wrong to do so.  From what you're saying in this\npost, it seems you agree, and we're talking at cross-purposes.\n\n#(3) is still in contradiction to (1).\n#\n#Some sums may help. With B = benefactor, b = bug, d = dosh arrives in account:\n#\n#  (1) implies  P(B+b | d) = 1\n#\n#Assuming that P(Bb | d) = 0, so it's either the benefactor *or* a bug\n#which is responsible if the bucks arrive, but not both, then\n#\n#   P(B+b | d)   =   P(B | d) + P(b | d)\n#\n#so\n#\n#   P(B | d) + P(b | d)  =  1\n#\n#but (3) implies that\n#\n#   P(B | d)  =  0  and  P(b | d)  =  0.\n\nNo, this isn't what I meant.  P(B | d) = 0.5 and P(b | d) = 0.5, with\nnecessarily no new observation (we've already seen the dosh) to change\nthose estimates.  I was trying to say (again, in my clumsy way) that\nit would be _wrong_ to assign 0 probability to either of these.  And that's\nprecisely what use of the Razor does in the case of gods - gods are\none class of hypothesis (there are many others) belonging to a set of\nhypotheses _one_of_which_ is necessary to explain something which otherwise \nwould _not_ be satisfactorily explained.  It can be thrown out or\nretained on grounds of non-rational preference, not of science or statistics.   \nAlternatively, one could chuck out or retain the lot, on the grounds\nthat the answer can't be known, or that the notional probability estimates\nare effectively useless, being equal (agnosticism\/weak atheism).\n\n#> As they do when the set M is filled by \"the universe is caused by x\",\n#> where x is gods, pink unicorns, nothing, etc.  - and no observation\n#> tends to one conclusion over the other.\n#\n#Exactly the point I was making, I think. So we don't \"throw out\" any of\n#these, contrary to your assertion above that we do.\n\nSome people do, Simon, and they think they are doing excellent science.\nMy sole point was that they aren't.\n\n#>> Only observations which directly contradict the hypothesis H[i] (i.e. x\n#>> where P(x | H[i]) = 0) can cause P(H[i]) to go to zero after a finite\n#>> number of observations. Only in this case do we get to throw any of the\n#>> hypotheses out.\n#\n#> Exactly my point, though I may have been unclear.\n#\n#You said the diametric opposite, which I guess is the source of my confusion.\n\nI was merely trying to illustrate the incorrectness of doing so.\n\n#> What I'm trying to say is that while you are correct to say that absence of\n#> evidence can sometimes be evidence of absence, this does not hold true for\n#> all, or perhaps any, versions of theism - and it isn't true that those for\n#> which it does not hold can be discarded using the razor.\n#\n#On the contrary, those for which it does not hold are *exactly* those which\n#can be discarded using the Razor. See my post on the other branch of this\n#thread.\n\nThen you seem to be guilty of the contradiction you accuse me of.  If\nthe razor holds for gods, then it holds for all like hypotheses.  Which\nmeans that you're assigning P(x | H[i]) =0 for all i, though we've already\nestablished that it's not correct to do so when SUM(P(x|H[i]))=1 over\nall i.\n\n#> Simply put, anyone who claims to have a viable proof of the existence or\n#> non-existence of gods, whether inductive or no, is at best mistaken, and\n#> at worst barking mad.\n#\n#Luckily I make no such claim, and have specifically said as much on numerous\n#occasions. You wouldn't be constructing a strawman here, would you Frank?\n#Although that doesn't, of course, rule out my being barking mad in any case\n#(I could be barking mad in my spare time, with apologies to Cleese et al).\n#\n#But I think you miss the point once again. When I say that something is\n#\"evidence against\" an hypothesis, that doesn't imply that observation of\n#the said something necessarily *falsifies* the hypothesis, reducing the\n#estimate of P(H | data) to zero. If it *reduces* this quantity, it's still\n#evidence against H.\n\nNo, I got that.  I'm talking about the case when A=0.  You're clearly\ncorrect when A!=0.   And I'm not constructing a strawman (though it's\ncertainly possible that I've misunderstood what you're saying).  However,\nby any standards, a system that says when A=0, gods are highly unlikely,\nand when A!=0 gods can be dismissed using the Razor, is a system purporting\nto be an inductive proof that gods either don't exist, or are unnecessary\nto explain any or all phenomena.  In my experience, systems such as this\n(including those which purport to prove that gods exist) always contain\na fallacy upon close examination.  If that's not what you're saying, then\nplease put me straight.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"[Stuff deleted]\n\nWould Mr. Hart please explain how one could get every nation on\nearth and every corporation to agree that astronomers own the\nnight sky without `coercion'.   Remember that not every nation\nfollows the English common law.   In most countries, for most of\nhistory, it was probably true that the rulers `owned' everything\nnot explicitly owned by individuals.   Even in North America,\nwhere by the principle enunciated, the aboriginal inhabitants should\nhave owned everything, when new arrivals wanted to use land\nand resources, they just took it over.  In case Mr. Hart hasn't noticed,\nthere is currently a brutal war going on in Bosnia about who owns what.\nOf course, if some friendly super power were to give an international\nastronomy organization some anti-satelite missiles and also agree\nto defend it if attacked, such a proposal might work, but it\nwould hardly be non-coercive.\n\nSome of us nutty environmentalists think it might make sense first\nto try to mobilize public opinion against advertising in space\nand also to use governmental actions (like taxing power, for example)\nto discourage them.   This of course would be too coercive for\nMr. Hart.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n+>The paranoid assertion that the BATF fired first in an unprovoked\n+>assault assumes that the BATF were on a death wish. Had they\n+>expected the B-D to be anything other than peacefull citizens who\n+>would accept a search authorized by a court they would have turned up\n+>in a tank and broken the door down on day one.\n\n\tThe search was a \"no-knock\" warrent.  Meaning that what\nthose on the scene see is a bunch of men with guns storming \ntheir compound and lobbing grenades at them.  The terms of the\nsearch warrent are secret and the BATF has yet to even reveal\nwhat they were.\n\n\n\n\n+>The stupidity was the attempt to serve a warant on the place by\n+>ludicrously underarmed and unprotected police. \n\n\tThey did not serve a warrent, they basically attacked the\ncompound and expected a surrender.  They had semiautomatics and\nconcussion grenades that we KNOW about.  \n\n\tLook at the death and injury toll inflicted on both sides in the first\nbattle and its difficult to believe that either side had any\nsuperiority in weapons.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nMost DOS X servers are terribly slow to use in my experience - and no, I guess \nperformance would be pretty bad. I believe the discussion is valid for an X \nserver on a decent workstation.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"After setting up a very large (>4 pages) table in Word for Windows\nI asked word to print it to my HP laserjet II -- worked fine at first.\nAfter much editing of the table contents (but not structure) output\nrequests now kick the LJ into manual feed mode for the document\ncontaining the table.  Other documents without tables print correctly.\n\nWhere should I look and what should I change to get the document with\nthe long table to use the paper drawer rather than kick into manual\nfeed mode? [I believe I've tried all the obvious printer manager changes\nas well as replacing the hppcl.[lp]00 files with archived versions.]\n\nThanks for any and all help.\n\nPeter","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"[obnoxious name-calling deleted]\n\n\tOk, who wants rm off of here? I say we get his net privleges revoked.\n\tAny seconds?\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nIMO, the influence of Stalin, or for that matter, Ayn Rand, invalidates your \nassumption that theism is the factor to be considered.  Gullibility, \nblind obedience to authority, lack of scepticism, and so on, are all more \nreliable indicators.  And the really dangerous people - the sources of\nfanaticism - are often none of these things.  They are cynical manipulators\nof the gullible, who know precisely what they are doing.  Now, *some*\nbrands of theism, and more precisely *some* theists, do tend to fanaticism,\nI grant you.  To tar all theists with this brush is bigotry, not a reasoned\nargument - and it reads to me like a warm-up for censorship and restriction\nof religious freedom.  Ever read Animal Farm?\n\n\nWell, there is a glaring paradox here:  an argument that reason is useful\nbased on reason would be circular, and argument not based on reason would\nbe irrational.  Which is it?\n\nThe first part of the second statement contains no information, because\nyou don't say what \"the beliefs\" are.  If \"the beliefs\" are strong theism \nand\/or strong atheism, then your statement is not in general true.  The\nsecond part of your sentence is patently false - counterexample: an\naxiomatic datum does not lend itself to rational analysis, but is\nassumed to contain reliable information regardless of what process is\nused to obtain it.\n\n\nI can't agree with this until you are specific - *which* theism?  To\nsay that all theism is necessarily antirational requires a proof which\nI suspect you do not have.\n\n\nI don't understand this.  Can you formalise your argument?","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nThink for a moment about the technology required to do that.  By \nthe time they could make the Earth's sky look like Las Vegas, \nthe people could afford to go backpacking on the Moon. Round\ntrip costs for 500 kg to the Moon would be about the same as\n5000 kg in a Low Earth \"advertising\" orbit: Very roughly the\nsame cost as a smallish billboard, therefore. If such ads were\nto become common place, that would have to be a very low price...\n\nThe night sky on a Lunar backpacking trip would still be very \npristine... \n\nThere's always been a problem of having to get \naway from civilization before you can really find \"natural\"\nscenery. 100 years ago, this usually didn't take a trip\nof over 5 miles. Today, most people would have to go 100 miles\nor more. If we ever get to the point where we have billboards\non orbit, that essentially means that no place on Earth is still\n\"wild.\" While that may or may not be a good thing, the orbital\nbillboards aren't the problem: They are just a symptom of \ngrowing, densely-populated civilization. Banning such ads will\nnot save your view of the night sky, because by the time \nsuch ads could become widespread you will probably have trouble\nfinding a place without street lights, where you can _see_\nthe stars...\n\n \nAn ad on a moon of Jupiter would be rather pointless, since you need\na telescope to see them. However, I'd love to see them get all\nthe publicity they could from underwritting the \"Coca Cola Io\nOrbital Mapping Probe.\"  \n\n\nThey already can, to some extent: The IAU allows names derived from\nsponsors or patrons of scientific research. If Microscum donates\nmoney to a university astronomy program, one of the galactic \nastronomers could easily get a newly discovered galaxy named after\nthem.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Note:  the following article is submitted on behalf of someone (Frank \ndaniels) who has difficulty posting to s.r.c, email replies to \ndaniels@math.ufl.edu\n\n\tI am unable to post to the bitnet groups.\n\tHere is a capsule history of the Shepherding\/Discipleship Movement in\nthe Churches of Christ (i.e. Crossroads\/Boston):\n\n\tI could trace the Movement back as far as 1800, and indeed some of its\nroots go back that far, but these were really \"influences\" on the Movement,\nand not the actual movement, per se.\n\tI will start in c.1920.\n\tIn that day, there were 'white' churches and 'colored' churches in\nnearly every area (due to segregation).  Modern Pentecostalism was developing\nas a predominantly 'colored' phenomenon.  Here, there was great fanaticism,\nemphasis on emotional experiences, and belief in a personal guidance and\nindwelling of the Holy Spirit.\n\tMany 'white' Protestant churches were growing into what became known\nas conservative fundamentalism.  By the 1940s, the evangelical movement was\nin full swing, and many groups were becoming part of it.\n\tWhen the civil rights movement grew stronger (in the 1950's and \n1960's),\nmany 'white' church groups began to be influenced by the 'black' churches and\nby what was going on there.  This spread started in the most liberal of groups\nand spread to the more conservative ones by the late '60's.  In 1969, even the\nCatholic Church was displaying evidence of influence by the other \ngroups...still\nevident today.\n\n\tThe Churches of Christ are (and were) a very conservative Protestant\ngroup.  When the influence from outside began to reach the CofC in c.1965, it\nwas generally not appreciated.  Conservative groups are very strongly \nresistant\nto change, and the new movement was VERY different from the CofC status quo.\n\tThe magazines put out at that time by CofC folks tell the story as it\nunfolds.  New ideas came into the CofC.  There was a big push to reach out to\ncollege students, young adults, and teens.  Some called this the Campus \nEvangel-\nism Movement.  Emotions, generally not highly regarded in the CofC at large,\nplayed a more important role in the new movement.  In some places, people \nbegan\nto speak in tongues (as their Pentecostal predecessors did).\n\tThis was met with extreme criticism from within the Churches of \nChrist.\nIn some places, people were fired from their jobs for speaking in tongues or \nfor\nadvocating the \"Holy Spirit Movement\", another name for the new branch.  The\nterm \"Underground Church of Christ\" also came into use because these people \nhad\nto hide their differences (or they might be ostricised).\n\tThere were several congregations, however, whose leaderships were\nreceptive to the new ideas (at least in part; the tongues-speaking never \nreally\ncaught on).  One of these was the 14th Street Church of Christ in Gainesville,\nFL.  Campus Ministry had already been regarded as important at 14th Street, \nand\nthe new ideas seemed to be very helpful tools for evangelism.  They also \nseemed\nto put vitality into the church, which many felt had been lacking.\n\tIn October of 1967, the 14th Street congregation hired Chuck Lucas to\nbe its Campus Minister.  By 1970, he would move to being the congregation's\n(lead) Minister.  In the late 60's\/early 70's, the congregation worked with \nmany\nother groups.  They held Bible discussions at Daytona Beach during Spring \nBreak.\nThey organized talks in the fraternities on the University of Florida campus.\nThey also worked with UF sports people.\n\tIn 1972, the congregation ordered a larger building to be constructed.\nWhen it was finished, the group moved and changed its name (now no longer\nappropriate).  It became the Crossroads Church of Christ from then on, a name\nthat would become legendary.\n\n\tBy this time, Crossroads was basically the only CofC whose programs\nwere fully aligned to the new movement.  While they didn't start it, they \ncontinued it and were responsible for where it wound up going.\n\tBy 1975, none of the other Churches of Christ in the area felt that\nthey could cooperate with Crossroads, due to what they recognized as doctrinal\nproblems at Crossroads.\n\tCrossroads had begun to heavily emphasize, and later require \nattendance\nat all church functions.  It was seen as a good thing for each member to have\nat least one close relationship, a person with whom you would share all of\nyour problems, pray, and get help from.  The concept was called Prayer \nPartners,\nwhich later became Discipleship Partners and also later became mandatory.  The\nleadership was assigning prayer partners to people for a while.\n\tThe book called \"The Master Plan of Evangelism\" was a strong influence\non Chuck Lucas.  He (and the group) believed that it was every person's duty\nand life purpose to carry out the great commission.  Crossroads was growing\nin number, and numbers became VERY important (some would say all-important).\n\tA person who \"was evangelistic\" was \"spiritual\".  Evangelism meant\ninviting people to Crossroads events; if you did this a lot and some of them\nconverted, then you were \"spiritual\".  There were sermons about how if you\nbought groceries, the cashier and bag boy ought to receive invitations to\nservices.  Everyone at your job ought to receive invitations.  Since these\npeople needed Jesus, you should be \"aggressive\"--don't take 'no' for an\nanswer.\n\tIf you did not evangelize enough, you came to be called \"lazy\" or\n\"unspiritual\".\n\tBy the end of the decade, the Prayer Partner system was integrated \ninto\na structure.  The Elders and Ministers were on top (like a big pyramid).  Then\nthe group leaders, Bible study leaders, and members.  Everyone who came in had\nsomeone placed over them.\n\tIt is at this time, 1978-1980, that the bad press about Crossroads\nbegan to circulate.  The problem with rape on the University of Florida campus\nwas tremendous, but Crossroads was considered a bigger and more immediate\nproblem.  There were many complaints about the congregation and its \"pushy\"\nevangelistic tactics.  Crossroads was considering the other Churches of Christ\nto be \"dead\" churches, which aggravated them; it was aggressively recruiting\nout of the other church groups (denominations), which aggravated THEM.\n\n\tBy this time, Crossroads had grown numerically to the point (1100)\nwhere not only did they believe that they would soon need a new building, but\nalso they were sending out \"planting\" [create a new church] and \n\"reconstructing\"\n[reorganize an existing church] teams to other cities.  By this time, the\nCrossroads Movement was underway.\n\tA group was sent to the 30-member Lexington Church of Christ in \nBoston,\nMA.  The team was headed up by Kip McKean, who had been converted out of a\nfraternity by Crossroads (in Gainesville).  Kip held a still stronger view of\nchurch authority, which he believed was heavily vested in the Evangelist(s),\nand not so much in the Elders.  He had been fired in 1977 from the \ncongregation\nthat he had been working at when the elders there found numerous things wrong\nwith his theology, including the practice of what came to be called one-over-\none\nChristianity.  [Called this by critics]\n\tIn the first year, half of the 30 people felt that they did not want \nto\nbe a part of the new congregation.  They left.  But others began coming into\nthe new Boston Church of Christ.\n\tAh, but I'm ahead of myself.\n\tAt Crossroads, the heavy-handed system had begun to take its toll on\nthe members.  Many have said that they felt that they were working hard, but\nthey were not achieving the results that were so important.  The numbers were\ndropping.  From 1978, Crossroads membership declined steadily.  The leadership\nbegan to tighten the reigns on the congregation, who was seen as being largely\n\"unproductive\" and \"unfruitful\".  The \"fruit\" passages in the NT were \ninterpreted\nas referring to new converts.  If you were not bearing fruit, said John 15, \nyou\nwould be cast into the fire!  [Boston still teaches this.]\n\tIf you love your neighbor, you'll save his soul (invite him to church\nand convert him).  If you're not doing that, you don't love your neighbor.\nAnd if you don't love, you're in danger of backsliding.  The logical arguments\ncontinue in this vein.\n\tIn 1985, Chuck Lucas was fired from his job as minister, due to \nrecurring\nsins in his life.  These struggles were never revealed to the congregation at\nlarge, although many people outside the congregation had heard about them.  \nFor\nby now, there was very little contact (on a friendship level) between most\nCrossroads members and those outside.  [If you have contact, your focus should\nbe on converting them.  Bring them to a Bible Study.]\n\tChuck's replacement was Joe Woods, who was fully supportive of the\nBoston system.  As Boston grew in number, they began to offer 'training' \nsessions\nfor other ministers.  Joe went to Boston to be trained and returned to Cross-\nroads ready to emphasize the \"total commitment\" to the church that Boston and\nKip McKean were now emphasizing.  Eventually, in Fall of 1987, the Elders at \nCrossroads (now 2 in number--Dick Whitehead and Bill Hogle) made a decision.\nBoston was demanding that all of the other churches in the movement come under\nthe direction of the church in Boston.  The Elders refused, citing their \nbelief\nthat each church should be autonomous (something true in all non-Boston \nChurches\nof Christ).  Perhaps there was also some degree of offense done here, since\nCrossroads was no longer the 'example' to the rest of the Movement.  The group\nnow numbered about 800, while Boston was now larger (in membership).\n\tThe Churches of Christ generally teach that baptism is a necessary\nelement of salvation.  At Crossroads, they taught what was called 'Lordship'\nbaptism:  you had to understand the commitment involved before you could be\nbaptized.  You had to 'count the cost'.  At Boston, they took this a step\nfurther.  If at some time you became \"unproductive\", then your spirituality\nwas suspect.  People would begin to ask you if you REALLY understood what you\nwere getting into.  Anyone who said 'no' had their baptism deemed invalid:  \nthey\nhadn't counted the cost properly.  They still had to be baptized.  Others \ncalled\nthis \"rebaptism\", and Crossroads didn't approve of this practice.\n\tWhen Crossroads announced that it would not follow Boston, many of its\nmembers left Crossroads and went to Movement-related ministries, which were\nnow called Discipling Ministries.  You were either discipling (evangelizing) \nor\nyou were \"dead\".  They also used the nickname \"Movement of God\" for a while.\n\tBy Summer of 1988, Crossroads was withdrawn from the Movement and now\nstood alone.  They had few to no allies in the mainstream Churches of Christ,\nand now none in the Movement.\n\n\tBoston, however, continued to chart its course in the direction that\nthey had been following.  They sent \"reconstruction teams\" to many cities, \nwhich\nusually meant that they split the church there.  They stopped acknowledging \nother\nchurches of Christ as Christians and began to call themselves the \"remnant\".\nThe \"remnant\" of the Jews in the OT are those who are saved by God.  It was\nfelt that the \"remnant\" today represents all the Christians.  Sometimes they\nwould simply call their Movement \"the church\".\n\tThey usually took the name of the city for their name, implying to the\nother Churches of Christ that Boston did not recognize their existence.  Many\ncampuses have now formally forbidden Boston ministries from recruiting there\ndue to the number of complaints.  In some cases, it has been documented that\nBoston ministries have lied to University officials in order to continue to \nhave\naccess to the campus.  Any resistance that they experience is termed \"perse-\ncution\", which all true Christians are expected to experience.  Are you really\na Christian if you're not being persecuted?\n\tThe numbers at Boston peaked at c.3000 in 1989.  Since then, they have\nfought to remain steady.  I have heard a tape of Kip McKean shouting at the\nleaders for failing to fulfill the Great Commission (their life's purpose) as\nGod commanded them.  Their Christianity is highly centered on commands and\nobedience.\n\n\tCrossroads once was called a cult.  Boston is now recognized by the\nCult Awareness Network and other national and international groups as a cult,\nunder a formal definition, because of the techniques which they employ.  The\nterm \"cult\" is usually differentiated from \"sect\" by the practice of those\ntechniques.  The techniques which they employ are recognized by many as being\ntechniques of destructive pursuasion, also used by other Shepherding\nDiscipleship groups.  [Robert Jay Lifton, Margaret Thaler Singer, and many\nothers have written about the topic.]  These techniques include guilt \nmotivation,\nemotional manipulation, loaded language, the aura of sacred science (a sort\nof mystic element seen in everyday events), and others.\n\n\tI have no particular axe to grind against the Movement.  I have numer-\nous friends who are still part of the Movement.  I have never had a 'falling\nout' with anyone in the Movement.  I disagree with many things which they \nteach.\nI recognize the psychological damage done by being involved in such a system.\nI hold no loyalty to the mainstream Churches of Christ and do not defend their\nmistakes either.\n\tI want to point out, though, that unlike in many other systems which\nare in other ways similar, the Leadership of the Boston Movement are as much\nvictims of the system as the members.  We do not have a leader who enjoys\nmanipulating his people.  The leaders believe what they teach, and they feel\naccountable for the activites (and spiritual welfare) of the members.  When\nmembers do not evangelize to their expectations, for example, the leaders feel\npersonally responsible as well.  The leaders are not out for money or power.\nThey want to evangelize the world in their lifetime.\n\n\tI have said too much, but there is much more to say.  There are many\nexamples I could give and quotes from other sources (including Boston \nbulletins)\nthat I could include.  But this is too long already.  You may post this if\nyou so desire.\n\t\t\t\t\t\tFrank D.\n\n\n\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nHe's a Canadian \"thing\". Former coach of the Boston Bruins and Colorado\nRockies. From the summaries that get posted I gather that his ongoing beef\nthis year has been the conventional wisdom that Canadian hockey is doomed\nto be second or third rate behind the perceived emergence of the U.S.\nand European programs.\n\n\nAfter he left the Rockies, he got a job with CBC's Hockey Night in Canada\nand hasn't looked back since. Actually, he did work for CBC at least\non playoff season after the Rockies were eliminated.\n\n\nI'd say it's a combination of flame bait and serious journalism. The closest\nthing you'll find to Cherry in the U.S. is Stan Fischler, a self-described\nhockey maven. The similarities are that they both say things that get\npeople upset. The difference is that Cherry knows the game and Fischler\ndoesn't.\n\n\nDon's a character. If he were completely rational and noncontroversial\nhe wouldn't have a job. By some definitions, he could be called an ass.\nBut then some people feel the same about Mike Lang, another character that\nI wish would get wider exposure (only one national telecast last year).","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n  \n \nWake up and smell the Norris!!  Rick Zombo was traded to the Blues for Vince\nRiendo (sp?) last season.  ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nThe paper was distributed (against the wishes of the NSA - I have a copy\nwith a few 'illicit distribution' footnotes scribbled on it :-), and eventually\npublished at one of the crypto conferences.  Things were looking good.\n\nThen Xerox patented the algorithms.  <Plonk!>\n\nI don't know of anything which uses them.  Also, Khafre was broken at a\nlater conference and from work on a related algorithm I don't think the\nexisting Khufu would hold up too well against a converted differential\ncryptanalysis attack, although it can probably be changed to resist this\ntype of attack....\n\nPeter.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nNope.  Your problem is either being caused by excessive voltage drop in the\nlong cable from the generator, or just plain not having enough power.  I\nwould suspect that those amps are going to draw a lot of current on short\npeaks.\n\nYou can try using larger (and shorter) cables to the generator, or try\nstrapping the amps for 240V service and running 240V mains cables out,\nwhich will minimize the line drop.  If these don't work, though, you're\ngoing to need a bigger generator.\n\nI assume that you're using well-maintained generators, and have watched the\nvoltage output on the generator properly.  If you don't have 120V coming out\nof the unloaded generator you'll never get 120V at the other end.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Blessed are those\n\twho hunger and thirst\n\tfor righteousness,\n\tfor they will be filled.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
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{"text":"[...]\n\nDoes this imply the German tone dialing is compatible with the American \none?  I know at least the British system is not -- it is supposedly close \nenough though that an American phone will work.  But my modem (American)\nhas a special setting for British standards...\n\nMichael","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I am working for a company which has only one connection to the Internet.\nThis is through a firewall gateway (unix workstation). I would like to be\nable to telnet to a host outside the company and set the DISPLAY to my PC\nwhich is running an X-terminal emulator (eXceed\/W). The display can be set\nto the gateway workstation with no problem but when I set the variable to \nmy IP address I get a \"Error: Can't open display\" message. \n\nThis can't be that hard to work around can it?\n\nBTW I have no trouble running x-clients on local workstations (in the company)\nand having them display on my PC.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nIf the BT phone system is anything to go by...me thinks this should be\napproached with great caution.\n\nMark","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I am selling the following sets of comics.  Listed are the guide\nprices (Overstreet, or Comics Values Monthly or Wizard if I couldn't\nfind it in Overstreet) as well as my price.\n\nFeel free to ask me about single items from the sets, as I often have\nextra copies of some of the items in the set.  \n\nAll comics are Near Mint to Mint unless otherwise noted.\n\nSet #\tTitles\t\t\t\t\tGuide\t\tPRICE\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n1. Adventure Comics Set (VF-NM unless noted)\t$130.00\t\t$100.00\n\t\t296, 304, 312, 313, 319 (F-VF)\n\n2. Animal Man Set\t\t\t\t$ 46.00\t\t$ 30.00\n\tAnimal Man 35-38, 41\n\tAnimal Man TPB Reprint #1\n\tWonder Woman 267 (Re-intro Animal Man)\n\n3. Avengers Set\t\t\t\t\t$ 21.00\t\t$  9.00\n\tAvengers 263, 272, 300, 306, 324, 329\n\tAvengers Annual 15, 18, 19\n\n4. Fish Police\t\t\t\t\t$ 22.50\t\t$  9.00\n\tFish Police 3-7, 9  \n\n5. Green Arrow\t\t\t\t\t$ 35.50 \t$ 15.00\n\tGreen Arrow 1-9, 12, 47-51\n\n6. Infinity Gauntlet\t\t\t\t$ 17.00\t\t$  9.00\n\tInfinity Gauntlet 1-3\n\n7. Legion of Super-Heroes\t\t\t$  8.00\t\t$  5.00\n\tLegion of Super-Heroes 294\n\tLegion of Super-Heroes (1989) 1, 21\n\tL.E.G.I.O.N. 29, 30\n\n8. Lone Wolf and Cub\t\t\t\t$ 22.00\t\t$ 15.00\n\tLone Wolf and Cub 5-10, 18, 19, 21-23\n\n9. Omega Men\t\t\t\t\t$ 23.00\t\t$ 15.00\n\tOmega Men 3, 10\n\tOmega Men Annual 1, 2\n\n10. Outcasts\t\t\t\t\t$ 21.00\t\t$ 10.00\n\tOutcasts 1-12\n\n11. Ragman\t\t\t\t\t$  9.00\t\t$  5.00\n\tRagman 1-5\n\n12. Retief\t\t\t\t\t$ 16.25\t\t$  9.00\n\tRetief Volume 1 (Mad Dog) 1-6\n\tRetief Volume 2 (Adventure) 1\n\tRetief of the C.D.T.\n\n13. Silver Blade\t\t\t\t$ 24.00\t\t$  9.00\n\tSilver Blade 1-12\n\n16. Slash Maraud\t\t\t\t$ 10.50\t\t$  5.00\n\tSlash Maraud 1-6\n\n17. Sleepwalker\t\t\t\t\t$ 16.25\t\t$ 10.00\n\tSleepwalker 1, 4-13\n\n18. Star Trek\t\t\t\t\t$ 30.00\t\t$ 20.00\n\tStar Trek (Marvel) 3 (VG), 6 (F),\n\t\t\t   10 (VF)\n\tStar Trek: Next Generation (mini) 1\n\tStar Trek: Next Generation (series) 1,2 \n\n19. Strange Adventures (VF-NM unless noted)\t$260.00\t\t$200.00\n\tStrange Adventures 91, 124, 125, 128,\n\t\t\t   140, 144, 146 (F-VF),\n\t\t\t   147 (G), 148 (G), 150,\n\t\t\t   152, 166, 169, 171,\n\t\t\t   174, 205 (F-VF)\n\n20. Superman\t\t\t\t\t$ 18.40\t\t$ 10.00\n\tSuperman 2, 4, 7, 53\n\tSuperman Annual 1-3\n\tSuperman The Earth Stealers\n\tSuperman The Man of Steel 1\n\n21. Trekker\t\t\t\t\t$  9.50\t\t$  5.00\n\tTrekker 1-6\n\n22. Trouble with Girls\t\t\t\t$ 20.00\t\t$  9.00\n\tApache Dick 1-3\n\tTrouble with Girls (Eternity) 5, 11-14\n\tTrouble with Girls (Comico) 2, 4\n\n23. V For Vendetta\t\t\t\t$  8.00\t\t$  5.00\n\tV For Vendetta 6, 7, 9, 10\n\n24. Video Jack\t\t\t\t\t$ 12.00\t\t$  5.00\n\tVideo Jack 1-6\n\n25. Warlock and The Infinity Watch\t\t$ 19.00\t\t$ 10.00\n\tWarlock and the Infinity Watch 2-9\n\n26. Warriors\t\t\t\t\t$  6.50\t\t$  5.00\n\tWarriors 1-3\n\n27. X-Terminators\t\t\t\t$  7.25\t\t$  5.00\n\tX-Terminators 1-4\t\n\nI guarantee comic grading satisfaction.  If you are not satisfied with the\ngrade I've assigned to the book, you can send it back and I will refund your\nmoney minus shipping costs.\n\nI have thousands of other comics, so if you are looking for something in\nparticular, please let me know.  I might be able to help out.\n\nI reserve the right to refuse any offer.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Posted for a friend without posting access (but with e-mail access...)\n----------------------------\n\nHelp, anyone!\n\nI have a X client that is abnormally terminated with the following message:\n\nXIO:   fatal IO error 22 (Invalid argument) on X server \"xxxxx:0.0\"\n       after 10058 requests (10057 known processed) with 78 events remaining.\n\nIt has been known to occur when displaying on the Xsun (X11R4) server.  It\noccurs with a higher frequency when the client displays on the Xdomain\n(X11R4) server running on DomainOS 10.3.5 on an Apollo.\n\nAnybody know why this may be happening? Any suggestions would be greatly\nappreciated.\n\nReply-To: has been set to me.  I'll summarize to the net.\n\nDoug Leary\nREDARS Software Development\nBoeing Computer Services\ndcl@luey.ca.Boeing.COM\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"For Sale:  386SX-16Mz, 8 meg RAM!, 120 meg Maxtor IDE hard disk, AMI BIOS\n           STB PowerGraph SVGA, 1MB (up to 1024x768x256)\n           LOOP 14\" color SVGA monitor (.28 dot pitch)\n           1.2 & 1.44 diskette drives\n           Desktop  case, turbo & reset switches, Hard Drive LED \n           101 keyboard, 2 Serial\/1 Parallel\/ 1 Game Port\n           Serial, 2-button, fully MS-compatible mouse.\n           Everex 2400 bps External modem with MNP5\n           DOS 5.0, Windows 3.1\n           Logitech ScanMan 32 HandScanner with all software,docs,box.\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>\nSubject: Labour's enclaves policy.IMPORTANT\n\n\nLabour's enclaves policy in the occupied territories\n\nby Israel Shahak\npubl. in Middle East International, London, 30.4.93\n\nIt is not difficult to discover Israel's policy towards the \nPalestinians at any given time. It can be easily inferred \nfrom the facts on the ground and from the information \nprovided by the Hebrew press. There is one condition, \nthough. The torrents of claptrap about \"the peace \nprocess\" must be totally ignored, as must Israel's official \npronouncements, whole sole purpose is to distort reality. \nBy concentrating only on the facts, it was early apparent \nthat Labour's policies were no different from those of \nShamir but for their greater reliance on deceit and their \nmore effective implementation.\n\nLikud's policies were accurately described by Ariel \nSharon in an article, accompanied by a map, in Yediot \nAharonot last August. The Sharon plan envisaged a \ndivision of the West Bank into seven, and the Gaza Strip \ninto four, \"autonomous\" Palestinian enclaves, all of them \nunder Israeli supervision. The total area of these \nenclaves amounted to about 15 per cent of the \nterritories. The rest was to be controlled by the Israeli \nsettlements and the highways built around the enclaves. \nThe entire area around Jerusalem, from the outskirts of \nRamallah to the boundaries of Bethlehem, has already \nbeen turned into a \"Greater Jerusalem\" where the Arab-\ninhabited localities amount to small enclaves surrounded \nby areas occupied by Israeli settlements or reserved for \nthem.\n\nJudging from Labour's settlement policy, it may be \nassumed that it may content itself with a lesser number \nof Arab enclaves of a rather larger size than Sharon had \nplanned. But the principle of surrounding the enclaves by \nsettlements strategically dispersed along the highways \nremains unchanged. Labour plans only four enclaves in \nthe West Bank: two in \"Samaria\" and two in \"Judea\" (i.e. \nnorth and south of Jerusalem respectively), and no more \nthan two in the Gaza Strip. In regard to \"Greater \nJerusalem\", Labour's policies hardly deviate from \nSharon's.\n\nA saner version of Likud policy\n\nAs some Israeli correspondents at once realised, Labour \npolicies were but a saner version of Sharon's \nextravaganza. Last July, Gideon Eshet wrote in Yediot \nAharonot that, while \"barely a few months ago\" Labour \nsupported the demand to freeze all construction beyond \nthe Green Line, \"no specific decision to freeze \nconstruction in the territories has been taken\". And Uzi \nBenziman wrote in Ha'aretz that \"as far as can be judged \non the basis of the internal political discussions in \nJerusalem, Rabin intends to stick to Likud's ways\".\n\nThe two biggest enclaves envisaged by Labour are \nlocated in \"Samaria\". Therefore the belt of settlements \naround the \"Trans-Samaria Highway\", designed to \nseparate those enclaves from each other, is of paramount \nimportance. According to the latest data, the percentage \nof Israeli settlers in the entire West Bank population \n(apart from East Jerusalem) is a mere 5.5 per cent. But \nfor the area around the \"Trans-Samaria Highway\", the \ncorresponding figure is almost 20 per cent, and it is \nincreasing steadily. The situation in the settlements of \nthe \"Efrat Block\" south of Jerusalem, designed to sever \nthe enclave around Bethlehem from the one around \nHebron, is pretty much the same. The \"Efrat Block\" is now \nbeing connected with West Jerusalem by a highway.\n\nThe project is costly in the extreme, because the highway \nis designed to bypass Bethlehem by a sequence of long \ntunnels. The final decision to build this highway was \nsuspended until Rabin's return from his US visit in \nMarch. The subsequent decision to renew its construction \ncan be seen as US approval for the enclaves plan as a \nwhole.\n\nProcess of impoverishment\n\nThe enclaves plan implies deliberate and steady \nimpoverishment of the Palestinians. This is well known \nin Israel but ignored abroad by all who should be \nconcerned, including the PLO. In regard to the Gaza Strip, \nthe whole process was best described by Ze'ev Shiff in \nHa'aretz in March. He mentions having seen \"a pamphlet \nissued six years ago by the Civil Administration \nforecasting the conditions in the Gaza Strip under Israeli \nrule in 2000\". His analysis deserves to be quoted \nextensively:\n\n\"We continue to steal the Strip's water, even though its \nquality deteriorates from year to year. We continue to \nsteal the Strip's tiny land resources, in order to found \nthere more and more settlements, as if we deliberately \nwant to make the inhabitants despair, and in their \ndespair think in termws of having nothing to lose. It is \nby our own doing that the Strip's workers must now \nspend travelling to their workplaces almost as much time \nas they spend working. From the military point of view, \nwe have kept control of no more than half the Strip's \narea at an increasingly exorbitant price in manpower and \nresources. About a year before Moshe Arens left the \ndefence ministry, I heard him saying that we should \nwithdraw from the Strip come what may. His argument \nwas that Israel sinks into the Strip ever deeper and \ndeeper. He told me he had proposed this to Yitzhak \nShamir but he rejected it.\" Yitzhak Rabin rejects it too.\n\nEnormous state support for the Qatif Block settlers can \nalso be cited as proof that the enclaves plan is being \nimplemented. The Qatif Block settlements, founded by \nthe first Rabin government of 1974-77, are intended to \ndivide the Gaza Strip into two separate enclaves. Efraim \nDavidi of Davar had data showing how vital for Israeli \nthis enterprise is. \"The Qatif Block is now producing 40 \nper cent of Israeli tomatoes destined for export, and a \nsubstantial proportion of cut flowers.\" He also deals with \nthe subsidies the settlers receive, considerably \naugmented by the present government. Owing to them, \nhousing units are cheap. The present government does \nnot spare efforts to recruit new settlers to the block. \n\"Any prospective settler will get a 95 per cent mortgage \nfor his house on top of a grant of 18,000 shekels \n($6,500).\"\n\nSuch data shows that Israel's plans apply whether the \nPalestinians of the Gaza Strip are allowed or forbidden to \nwork in Israel. The economic motivations were explained \nby Danny Rubinstein in Ha'aretz in March:\n\n\"From the economic viewpoint Gaza could already be \nsealed off hermetically and all the Strip's workers could \nbe barred from entering Israel...Even though accurate \ndata is hard to come by, it is indisputable that during the \nlast two years the numbes of Gazan workers arriving \ndaily to work in Israel has markedly decreased, from \n80,000 in the mid'80s to 40,000 today. But the decrease \nis not only due to restrictions imposed on entering Israel \nfrom Gaza. It is also due to the drastic curtailment of \ndemand for Gazan labour in Israel. With unemployment \nin Israel soaring and the construction of apartments \nblocks virtually halted, the workers from Gaza are no \nlonger really needed...\"\n\nGaza's total dependence\n\nThe entire economy of the Gaza Strip is totally dependent \non Israel. In recent years in the Gaza Strip there has \nbeen an increase in sub-contracted work for Israeli \nfactories, mostly footware and textiles. Thousands of \nsmall workshops, employing an average of four workers, \nget their raw materials or unfinished products, together \nwith detailed working instructions, from Israeli factories. \nRubinstein attributes this development to the fact that \n\"the average wage in the Gaza Strip is merely 40 per cent \nof that in the West Bank, which in turn stands at half the \naverage wage in Israel; and besides the Gazan employer \ndoes not pay any social security for his employees.\" If \nthe average wage in the Gaza Strip is just a fifth of that \nin Israel, the profits of Israeli factories and even of \nPalestinian sub-contractors must be vast.\n\nThey are higher still when \"a Gazan sub-contractor \nprovides labour to be performed at home, with the \nfamily's help. The livelihood of tens of thousands of \nGazans depends on such sub-contracted work.\" Many of \nthem are women and children, paid about ten shekels \n($3.50) a day which can last 12 hours or more. There can \nbe no doubt that profits from exploiting cheap Gazan \nlabour are one of the reasons for the stubborn opposition \nof Rabin and other Israeli ministers to withdrawal from \nthe Strip.\n\nEconomic conditions in the Gaza Strip differ little from \nwhat was created straight after Israel's conquest [in \n1967]. In this respect, one should not be deluded by the \ntalk, nowadays fashionable, about Israeli gestures \nintended to \"encourage economic development in the \nterritories\", As Israeli journalists point out, all permits \nfor opening new businesses depend on a prior approval \nby the Shin Bet. \"Behind all the professed goodwill there \nis no desire to solve problems, just the attitude of a good \ncolonialist, willing to do something for the benefit of the \nnatives, but on condition that they behave nicely, do not \nbecome rebellious, and never do anything against the \ninterests of the metropolis, its economic interests \nincluded,\" wrote Michal Sela in Davar in February. The \ndevelopment of sub-contracted work in the Gaza Strip \naccords perfectly with Sela's diagnosis.\n\nSela also shows how exactly the economic controls work. \n\"In all branches of the economy, lobbies have been set in \nmotion for purposes of freeing Israeli production from \nthe threat of any Palestinian competition. The method is \nsimplicity itself. As soon as any Israeli producer succeeds \nin persuading the government, or even the trade and \nindustry minister alone, a military order is issued \nprohibiting the export of a given produce to Israel. If this \ndoes not suffice, a Palestinian factory may be denied a \nlicence to operate or bureaucratic obstacles may paralyse \nits production.\" Among the most active of such lobbies is \nthe agricultural one. It has succeeded in limiting exports \nof Gazan vegetables (except for those grown by settlers) \nnot only to Israel but also to Europe, where they \notherwise might compete with Israeli exports.\n\nPerpetuaring apartheid\n\nLabour's goal is to perpetuate this apartheid regime in \nthe territories. The same goal is shared by the US, which \notherwise could not support the Labour government so \nfirmly. In my view one of the reasons the US feels \nhappier about supporting Labour than Likud is its \ngreater efficiency in pursuing the settlement drive. This \npoint was brought home by Ofer Shelah in Ma'ariv, who \ndeplored the settlers' failure which he attributed to \nLikud's inefficiency. he showed that the peak yearly \nsettlement growth \"occured during the term of office of \nthe National Unity government (i.e. 1984-90) in which \nRabin served throughout as the defence minister\". \nLikud's reputation for settling the territories better than \nLabour is false, attributable to the many tiny settlements \nwithout strategic value founded under Shamir for \nsymbolic reasons.\n\nTo sum up: Labour's policy, unconditionally supported by \nthe US differs from that of Likud primarily in the \nefficiency with which it is implemented. According to \nthat policy the territories are to be divided into two \nparts. The major part is to be ruled by Israel directly, \nand the minor part indirectly. In my view, this racist \nscheme is doomed to ultimately fail, but at a horrifying \nprice in human suffering. The sooner its true nature is \nrecognised, the less suffering it may cause.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"     Bzzzzt.  THANK you for playing, but obviously you are not reading the \n  material as it is presented.  According to the report I've got in my \n  hands, the Newsweek article (which reported that \"2 to 3 percent\" of the \n  population is gay) used the criteria of \"No heterosexual contact in the \n  past year.\"  But at the same time, the University of Denver study points \n  out, quite dramatically, that 60% of all self-identifying gay men have ","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nThose are pretty typical, I believe.\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nI'd like to add that I think Canadian hockey fans like Don because his kind of hockey (the hockey he promotes in his TV appearances) is the kind that they think used to get played in the old 6 team NHL. So there's a kind of nostagia for the old days, before expansion, the Soviet series, Gretzky and even Bobby Orr, when guys weren't afraid to take a hit, nobody floated and defensemen played defence. Who cares that that probably never really existed, the myth is still around in Canada and all the European in\n\n\n\nfluence on the game has diminished it in some people's eyes.\n\nPersonally, I'd like to add before I get flamed, I love the fast-paced \"European\" game and think Don Cherry is a bit of an idiot. I have to say that I missed him when I was living in the States, though. He is entertaining, even if you end up throwing your popcorn at the screen when he's on.\n-- \n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n         \nI stand by all the misstatements that I've made.\n\t\t-- Vice President Dan Quayle to Sam Donaldson, 8\/17\/89","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nFeeding frenzy!!!\n\nAh, 'tis April in rec.moto and the newbies are bitin'!  Catch all you want,\nwe'll make more!","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\nHijaak claims to convert .dxf to .iff, although Hijaak claims some stuff\nthat I have never gotten to work (for example, not long ago I tried to\nconvert some .iff files from an Amiga video toaster (using CrossDos, so my\nPC could read the disks) int Targa files.  Hijaak made some gorgeous 1.5\nmegabyte Targa files from the .iffs -- all totally black!\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n...\n\nI must object to the characterization of those opposed to the\ngovernment's handling of the Waco situation as \"gun supporters\".\nYour argument tries to paint the BATF critics as right-wing\ngun nuts, and just mixes up two issues.\n\nI am one of the BATF\/FBI critics, and yet I am a liberal\nand just as anti-gun as you are.  I just happen to believe\nthat everyone has civil rights, even religious crazies.\nThey're all human beings, not some nest of wasps that\nyou're trying to exterminate.\n\nThe BATF created the crisis situation by the way they handled\nthe original raid.  It was well known that Koresh regularly\nwent jogging outside his property.  He could have been served\nwith a search warrant then.  He could have been arrested if\nhe had refused to comply.  Instead officers armed with grenades\ninvaded the property.  This escalated into a shooting war\nwith tragic deaths on both sides.\n\nThose were the first two mistakes:  the bad judgment of\nasking for a no-knock warrant, and the bad and probably\nillegal way the already-unwise warrant was served.\n\nAt this point, the situation escalated to where it was\ndescribed as an armed standoff and a hostage crisis.\nThat's when the government started covering their traces,\nsealing the warrant, revising their reported history of\nthe incident, etc.\n\nThings were already building up to disaster.  Now the\ngovernment could have simply closed the supply routes\nand waited.  But according to Janet Reno, that option\nhad \"never been seriously considered\".  So, supposedly\nbecause the agents were \"frustrated and fatigued\", and\nbecause there supposedly were no backups, they felt\nthey had to go in.\n\nNow it's entirely possible that Koresh was responsible\nfor the fire.  If that's so, he deserves the blame\nfor the deaths of the people in his compound.\n\nBut the government's hands are far from clean.\nTheir first raid demonstrated bad judgment plus\ncontempt for the 4th amendment.  The motivations\nfor the second raid are just too unbelievable.\nAnd their coverup of the events of the first\nraid undermines their credibility in anything\nthey do thereafter.  We have only some very\nbiased FBI agents' word for what happened.\n\nAnd please let's not turn this into a pro-gun vs. anti-gun\ndiscussion.  Anti-gun people do not believe that gun-owners\ndeserve to get frontally assaulted by armed government\nagents.  And Koresh's civil rights exist whether his\nguns were legal, illegal, illegal-but-should-have-been-legal,\nor whatever! \n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Sorry, this must be a FAQ, but it's a quick fix that I need to take care of  \nbefore a demo in less than 24 hours from now! Couldn't think of a better place  \nfor a rapid answer than comp.sys.mac.hardware.\n\nI need to connect the Serial A of a Compac 386\/20 PC to the printer port of a  \nMac IIci. Does anyone have handy the pin-pin routing for the cable that would  \nallow this connection? \n\nThe serial port on the Compaq is a MALE DB9. How would this map to the DIN8 of  \nthe Mac serial? I tried one of those really short femaleDB9-maleDIN8 cables  \nthat Apple sold as adaptors to plug in Macintosh serial peripherals from the  \npre-MacPlus era. This cable didn't do it. Do I need a null modem adaptor as  \nwell on the DB9 side of things? \n\nI just need to be able to map the data TX and RX pins correctly.\n\n\nthanks kindly,","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n...\n\nThe so-called Athanasian Creed has never been a recognized standard of faith \nin the Orthodox Church. It was introduced (without the Filioque) in certain \nservice-books in the 17th and 18th centuries at a time when there was a \nstrong Western influence on Orhtodoxy.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"My Windows 3.1 installation has somehow gone awry.  Whenever I try to run\nWindows now, the logo comes up OK, but when it tries to enter Windows\nitself, the screen gets totally screwed up as if it's in the wrong\ngraphics mode or something.  It's completely illegible although functional\nas I can still exit to DOS with an ALT-E RETURN combination.\n\nI tried to reinstall Windows again, but if you recall, halfway through the\ninstallation process, install takes you into Windows and there my graphics\nproblem surfaces again so I cannot complete the re-installation.\n\nAll this started after trying to get a game working on my system but my\nconfig.sys and autoexec.bat have been restored to what they were before\nthis problem cropped up.\n\nI'm running a 486-33DX with a Diamond Stealth VRAM (I've resinstalled the\nStealth video drivers again but with no luck).  I'm also using QEMM and\nStacker 3.0 but Windows is installed on an un-stacked partition.  And of\ncourse, it worked perfectly before.\n\nAny email replies and suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"If you brighten up the dark part of CV043015.GIF with your viewer you \nwill see two other objects near the upper left part of the moon.\nOne is actually between the weather satellite and the moon.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nThe temperature of intergalactic space (or intercluster or \nintersupercluster space) would be very, very close to the microwave \nbackground temperature, 2.73 kelvins.  I recall that in interstellar \nspace in our neighborhood of the galaxy it's something like 4 K.\n\nIs that what you were looking for?\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n      Frankly, I'm sick of being lied to.  It was bad before Clinton,\n      and now it's worse.  Here, listen to Ricks' ( FBI ) words,\n      ONE-HALF hour before the fire:\n\n       \" Come out with your hands up.  This matter is NOW OVER. \"\n\n      Now, I hear Ricks ( and REno ) claiming that this was just \n      \"another incremental step in pressure\".  More bullshit.\n\n      Why did they pick 6 AM  Monday morning?  So nobody would\n      NOTICE.  So everyone would be busy at work, starting a new\n      week.  More bullshit.\n\n      Did the FBI hold back fire engines?  Here, let me paraphrase\n      Sessions\"\n\n       \" no, we didn't hold back the engines.  We had them on \n         stand-by, blah, balh, blah...   And so, to protect the\n         the fireman, we didn't allow the engines to enter until\n         it was safe \"\n\n     WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?   \" YES, WE HAVE NO BANANAS? \"\n\n     What the HELL kind of double-talk is this?  No, we didn't, so\n     blah, balh, we did.    Huh?\n\n     I WATCHED this.\n\n     Clinton takes responsibility, \"EVEN THOUGH\" it wasn't his \n     decision.  MOre BULLSHIT.  Does he, or does he NOT, take\n     responsibility?!   No more \"even though\" bullshit.  Yes.\n     Or no.  \n\n     Christ.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nThe concrete floor accelerates the problem because it is a heat sink and a\ncolder lead-acid battery self-discharges at a slightly faster rate. That's\nwhy the old wives' tale of sitting it on a piece of wood on the floor works\nto help keep from killing the battery as fast ---- it insulates the battery\nthermally. It you'll set the battery down on a piece of styrofoam, it will\nself-discharge even slower. The best thing would be to attach a small load\nsuch as a small transistor radio with the volume turned down low and leave it\non constantly, but also trickle-charge it every couple days too to \"shallow-\ncycle\" the charge in the battery. Such mild \"exercising\" of a lead-acid\nbattery is the next best thing to completely removing the electrolyte for\nstorage. If you do remove the electrolyte, may sure you keep separate storage\ncontainers for each cell's electrolyte and put it back into the same cells\nwhen you refill the battery. This isn't so critical for a brand-new battery\nin a fully charged state, but will maximize the restored output of an older\nbattery which may not be fully charged when you remove the electrolyte for   \nstorage.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"# Recent studies have shown that the number of men who have\n# engaged in homosexual activities in the last decade is 2.3%\n# and the number of men who are exclusively homosexual is 1.1%.\n# These figures are much less than those that came from earlier\n# studies that showed that homosexuality among men is a lot\n# higher.\n# \n# So, what can we deduce from these figures?  Are there a lot\n# less male homosexuals than there used to be or are men\n# (perhaps women too) not as honest as they used to be about\n# there sexuality?  Presumably, the people that were polled in\n\nYou mean, in the 1940s, men and women were much more open about\ntheir homosexuality than today?  Want to try that one again?\n\n# this survey were assured of their anonymnity so they should\n# have answered the questions honestly I suppose.  However, it\n# could be that gays feel so repressed and denigrated by society\n# that they didn't feel that they could be forthcoming about there\n# sexuality in something like a survey.  If this true then is it\n# possible that there is a lot more gays out there than we are led\n# to believe?\n# \n# Perhaps if Americans were more open about there sexuality---I think\n# most Americans aren't---then we might discover that there are really\n# quite a few more people out there who are orientated toward the same\n# sex---men and women included.  I'd venture a guess that there is a\n# lot of people out there who have considered having a relationship\n# with someone of the same sex at some point in there life.  Maybe they\n# didn't take their longings seriously, but this doesn't make these\n# longings any less valid.  Therefore, if Americans weren't so\n# repressed about their sexuality in general---as I believe they may be\n# ---then we'd see a lot more people \"coming out of the closet\".\n\nYou mean, ignore study after study, so that we can continue to \naccept a study (Kinsey's) that is obviously wrong?  \n\n# As for myself, I'm a heterosexual and I've never considered having\n# sex with another man.  That's just the way I am...I could have just\n# as easily of been gay I suppose.  One of the big debates about\n# homosexuality is whether or not it's a type of behavior that is\n# learned or if one is just born that way.  IMHO, the more likely\n# explanation is that it's some combination of the two.\n\nBased on what, besides your own warm fuzzy feelings?\n\n# Here's something to ponder upon:  have any of you gay-bashers out\n# there ever considered that homosexuals probably deem their sexual\n# orientation as being a state of affairs that is just as much an\n# intrinsic and \"natural\" part of their life as heterosexuals do\n# about their own sexuality?  In other words, someone who is *truly*\n\nAlcoholics share that feeling, until they hit bottom.\n\n# gay may not be able to live any other way.  Even if they date someone\n# of the opposite sex or get married, in their *heart* they are still a\n# homosexual.  Likewise, if someone who is *truly* heterosexual forms\n# a relationship with someone of the same sex, then they are *still*\n# a heterosexual even though outward appearances may suggest otherwise.\n# \n# Scott Kennedy,  Brewer and Patriot\n\nUnless, of course, the problem is that homosexuality is a form\nof mental disorder, caused by childhood sexual abuse, as a number of\nrecent works suggest.\n\nIf homosexuals would stop using the government to impose their\nmorality on others (antidiscrimination laws) and leave our children\nalone, I wouldn't care in the least what they did in private.  But\nuntil they get over the liberal notion that the proper role of \ngovernment is to tell peaceful people how to live, I have no choice\nbut to continue to point out that homosexuality is not an \"alternative\nlifestyle,\" but a sickness.\n\n# Before:  \"David Koresh is a cheap thug who interprets\n#           the Bible through the barrel of a gun...\"  --ATF spokesman\n# After:   \"[The ATF] is a cheap thug who interprets\n#           [the Constitution] through the barrel of a gun...\"  --Me\n\n\nGood signature!\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\\\\).\n\nSilly you. Don't you know the only division at Apple allowed to use the\nCray is the legal department?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\nfc> Exactly what fraction of current research is done on the big, \nfc> visable light telescopes? From what I've seen, 10% or less \nfc> (down from amlost 100% 25 years ago.) That sounds like \"dying\"\nfc> to me...\n\n That doesn't seem like a fair comparison.  Infrared astronomy \n didn't really get started until something like 25 yrs. ago; it\n didn't explode until IRAS in 1983.  Gamma-ray (and I think \n X-ray) observations didn't really get started until the '70s.\n I believe the same is true of ultraviolet observations in \n general, and I know that extreme UV (short of 1000 Angstroms)\n observations, until the EUVE (launched last year) had almost \n no history except a few observations on Skylab in the '70s.\n\n Twenty-five years ago, the vast majority of astronomers only \n had access to optical or radio instruments.  Now, with far more\n instruments available, growth in some of these new fields has\n resulted in optical work representing a smaller fraction of \n total astronomical work.\n\n\n\nfc> That would be true, if adaptive optics worked well in the visable.\nfc> But take a look at the papers on the subject: They refer to anything\nfc> up to 100 microns as \"visable\". I don't know about you, but most\nfc> people have trouble seeing beyond 7 microns or so... There are\nfc> reasons to think adaptive optics will not work at shorter \nfc> wavelengths without truely radical improvements in technology.\n\n Hmm, some of the folks in this department planning on using \n adaptive optics at the 5 m at Palomar for near-infrared \n observations (1 and 2 microns) might be surprised to hear this.\n\n And isn't the NTT already pushing toward 0.1 arcsecond resolution, \n from a ground-based site (remember 0.1 arcseconds was one of the \n selling points of HST).\n\n\n\n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Hi there kids and kidlets...\n\n\nIt your ol' pal the KotPM  (Keeper of the Pin Money!)\n\n\nI've got good new and bad news...\n\n\tGood news - I got laid..er...\n\tThe pins will be coming, to use the computer software phrase,  \"real\n\tsoon now\"\n\n\tBad news - Right after we placed our order, the company upped its\n\tminimum order for manufacturing.  We got in under the wire (with\n\tan order of 115 or so pins), but as a result of the low number of\n\tpins, we were relegated to the \"we'll get to it in-between other\n\truns\" bin.  As a result, it seems that it may be another 4 or 5 weeks\n\tuntil your beloved Geeky is guiding you along the blacktop..  (And\n\twe thought madonnas on the dashboard were foolish; hmmm, now, if that\n\twere Madonna sitting on my dashboard, that could be DANGEROUS...hell.\n\tI'm tough.)\n\n   SO...please continue to be patient.  As soon as they arrive, I'll post\n   \tthe grand announcement, and rush our Messiah on his way directly\n\tto your abode.  In the meantime, if you need revised versions of the\n\tholy word of Geeky, please send $15.95 cash or money order (no COD's)\n\tto:\n\n\tRanch Apocalyp...er......Ashram Geeky, 305 Cyberspace Place...\n\n\tI'm off to MSF class...hope it's not too BORING...my wife made me go\n\twith her!","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Someone mentioned a while ago that the Duos were scheduled for a \n10-18% price reduction, according to 'newsbytes'.  Is this definite?\nDoes anyone know when it will take effect?  And what is 'newsbytes'?\nThanks.\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Novell 386dx16 motherboard with cpu, 4 megs of memory and I\/O ports for\n$160 + shipping \/ firm.             \n\nlet me know if you are interested.      ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Does anyone have a listing of Pontiac's three-letter option codes and\nwhat they mean?\n\nThanks.\n\n-Oliver\n---\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nOliver Scholz                                                         DG4NEM\nGraduate Student of Computer Sciences at the University of Erlangen, Germany\n\"You're killing me, Peg!\"  \"Oh, shut up, Al, like I care...\" ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"# #However, monogamous homosexual male sex is so rare that for practical\n# #purposes, homosexuality spreads AIDS.\n# #-- \n# #Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!\n# #Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.\n\n# You fucking homophobic moron!!!!!!!!!  What about IV drug use?  What about \n# tainted blood?  What about multi-sexual partners?  If you knew anything\n\nWhat about them?  Those also spread AIDS.  Where did I say anything\ndifferent?  Go back and read what I wrote.  The statement \"homosexuality\nspreads AIDS\" is not made false by the fact that there are other\nmethods of spreading it as well.\n\n# about what you are talking about, you would be dangerous.  As it is right now,\n# you are a persistent boil on the skin of humanity that needs to be lanced.\n# \n# Joe Cipale\n\nTypical homosexual response.\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nIt would help if his OBP were higher than his batting average. Yes, the\nApril 12 USA Today lists Le Grand Chapeau as having a .422 batting average\nand a .413 OBP. That's on 19-for-45 hitting with 0 (zip, nil, nada) walks.\nThe reason a lot of us are down on Galarraga is that he's has a long history\nof showing that this is nowhere near his real level of ability (except for\ndrawing walks). If he hit .400 for, say, even 250 AB's I'd be convinced that\nthere was a real change in his ability. If he did it with an OBP<AVG, I'd\nnot only be amazed but I'd make a bet that that would be a unique feat in\nthe history of the game. But what do 45 AB's prove? Look at some of the\nother fluke players at this point in the season:\n  Player    AVG AB\n  Blauser  .367 49\n  Grace    .391 48\n  Milligan .400 35\n  Conine   .375 40\n  Lansing  .400 50\n  Slaught  .406 32\nAre any of these guys really that good? Well, in a word, no. How significant\nis Galarraga's average? At the 45 AB level, a hit is worth about .020. If\nhe'd had one of those hits called an error and one taken away by a good\ndefensive play, he'd be in the .380 range. If he goes 0-for-4 in his next\ngame he's all the way down to .388. In one game. Come back in June. Let's\ntalk then.\n\n\nIt's history, Greg. Andres' history is that he doesn't walk much because he\nswings at bad pitches, so his average isn't very good. 45 AB's doesn't mean\nan awful lot compared to a history of a couple of thousand, especially when\nthere's ample evidence (0 BB in 1992) that his basic hitting approach hasn't\nchanged. Yeah, he might suddenly have turned into a .400 hitter who never\nwalks, but don't bet the rent money on it.\n\n Mike Jones | AIX High-End Development | mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nX Resource, Issue 6","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"[much deleted] \n[much deleted] \n\n     It bugs me when I see this kind of nonsense.\n\n     First, there is no reasonable evidence linking Masonry to ancient\nEgypt, or even that it existed prior to the late 14th century (and\nthere's nothing definitive before the 17th).\n\n     Second, worship of Osiris is not, nor has it ever been, a part of\nMasonic practice (we are strictly non-denominational).\n\n\n     You said it!\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n      \"I have no question that our plan was correct?\"  Months to\nget ready, unlimited funds, knowledge of a threatened mass suicide by fire,\nand no fire trucks on hand?   This is \"extreme professionalism and care?\"\n\n      I can understand the first screwed-up raid by the BATF.  They\nunderestimated the opposition, which happens.  But not this one.  \nThe FBI had their first team in place, massive resources, ample time \nfor planning and bringing up any specialized equipment or people necessary.  \nThey still botched it.\n\n      The FBI Director and the FBI SAC in overall charge should resign,\nor be fired for incompetence.\n\n      I don't blame Reno or Clinton.  They gave the FBI clear orders:\ndon't go in unless you can do it without casualties; if you can't do that,\nwait it out.  Those were reasonable orders.  The FBI said they could\npull off a tactical solution, and they couldn't.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I'm personally expecting Moog.  Blue played fairly decent (alright\nspectacular at times) in his 1\/2 a game but Moog has the experience.\nWhat Did Blue have going for him, nothing, What would happen in a Tie\ngame, the prssure is then on the Goal tender to insure that you keep the\npuck out (at the very least until your team scores)  Blue didn't face that\nkind of pressure on Tuesday.  The Bruins will come out storming that\nis for sure.  I really think that this series is up to Buffalo, Boston\n(except for two bad passes in game one) really hasn't played that bad\n,  As a believer is statistics, you know that your going to get the\npuck by fuhr sooner or later, just keep shooting.  There game plan is\nsound but they need to take the lead first, and control the tempo.....\n\n               IMHO\n                      Pat Ellis\n\nP.S.  GO BRUINS    GO UMAINE BLACK BEARS    42-1-2       NUMBER 1......\n\n                   HOCKEY EAST REGULARS SEASON CHAMPIONS.....\n                   HOCKEY EAST TOURNAMENT CHAMPIONS>......\n                   PAUL KARIYA, HOBEY BAKER AWARD WINNER.......\n         NCAA DIV. 1 HOCKEY TOURNAMENT CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nI was wondering if a group called 'sci.pharmacology' would be relevent.\nThis would be used for a more formal discussion about pharmacological\nissues (pharmacodynamics, neuropharmacology, etc.)\n\nJust an informal proposal (I don't know anything about the net.politics\nfor adding a newsgroup, etc.)\n\n[more alt.psychoactives stuff deleted]","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nWell, here goes.\n\nThe first item of business is to establish the importance space life\nsciences in the whole of scheme of humankind.  I mean compared\nto football and baseball, the average joe schmoe doesn't seem interested\nor even curious about spaceflight.  I think that this forum can\nmake a major change in that lack of insight and education.\n\nAll of us, in our own way, can contribute to a comprehensive document\nwhich can be released to the general public around the world.  The\ndocument would scientifically analyze the technical aspects of long\nterm human habitation in space.\n\nI believe that if any long-term space exploration program is to \nsucceed we need to basically learn how to engineer our own microworld\n(i.e. the spacecraft).  Only through the careful analyses of engineering,\nchemical, biological, and medical factors will a good ecosystem be created\nto facilitate human life on a long-duration flight.\n\nSo, I would like to see posts of opinions regarding the most objective\nmethods to analyze the accepted scientific literature for technologies\nwhich can be applied to long-duration spaceflight.  Such a detailed\nliterature search would be of interest to ourselves as space advocates\nand clearly important to existing space programs.\n\nIn essence, we would be dividing the space life science issues into\nvarious technical problems which could be solved with various technologies.\nThis database of acceptable solutions to various problems could form the\nbasis of detailed discussions involving people from the bionet, isunet,\nand any other source!","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"ESPN is pathetic, I have been watching everybody complain about ESPN's coverage\nand I agree with all of you.  Might I suggest that we are getting all worked up\nover nothing.  We ALL knew that ESPN's coverage was going to suck.  I mean have\nyou ever watched during the regular season Sportscenter coverage of hockey? It\nsucks, I mean really sucks!!!  ESPN does not know hockey if it shot them in the\nass.  I was really pissed of about last night, coverage.  I go to school in Ohio\nI *know* the Indians suck, so why show them?  If I were Bill Clement I would\nshoot myself.\n\nAnyway after I calmed down after I realized that they were not going to show\novertime of the Caps Isles game I thought to myself I knew that this was going\nto happen, in fact I remerbed myself praying that at least they would keep even\nthe boring Devils game.\n\nOverall I think ESPN does not care if they show hockey or not and I firmly\nbelive that they have know respect for the fans. ie *because of contract       \nobligations*, screw you ESPN.\n\nPraise be to all hockey fans who put up with this shit!\n\nGO HAWKS!!!","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Bufflo Sabres has just finished their great four wins over Boston. All\nSabres players contribute to those great wins but those talent players\nincluding Mogily, Fuhr, Kemhlev and Lafontin impressed me most. Their \nskills showed the art of sport, not like the garbage speech from the\ncoach's corner.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nMy apologies if this is a re-post - I submitted it on Friday, but \ngot a message that my post might not have gone out.  Considering \nthe confusing spitting contest over 'rights', (there are TOO \ninalienable rights damn it!  The majority can be just as destructive \nof liberty as a despot), I suspect that my post did not get out \nof my site.    (I ain't saying that dark skies are included in these \nrights, although we can only preserve any rights by exercising them.) \n\n\n\nAnyway, here are my thoughts on this: \n\n\nI'd like to add that some of the \"protests\" do not come from a strictly \npractical consideration of what pollution levels are acceptable for \nresearch activities by professional astronomers.  Some of what I \nwould complain about is rooted in aesthetics.  Many readers may \nnever have known a time where the heavens were pristine - sacred - \nunsullied by the actions of humans.  The space between the stars \nas profoundly black as an abyss can be.  With full horizons and \na pure sky one could look out upon half of all creation at a time \n- none of which had any connection with the petty matters of man. \nAny lights were supplied solely by nature; uncorruptable by men.  \nWhole religions were based on mortal man somehow getting up there \nand becoming immortal as the stars, whether by apotheosis or a belief \nin an afterlife.  \n\nThe Space Age changed all that.  The effect of the first Sputniks \nand Echo, etc. on this view could only happen once.  To see a light \ncrossing the night sky and know it was put there by us puny people \nis still impressive and the sense of size one gets by assimilating \nthe scales involved is also awesome - even if the few hundreds or \nthousands of miles involved is still dwarfed by the rest of the universe.  \nBut there is still a hunger for the pure beauty of a virgin sky. \n\nYes, I know aircraft are almost always in sight.  I have to live \nin a very populated area (6 miles from an international airport \ncurrently) where light pollution on the ground is ghastly.  The \nimpact of humans is so extreme here - virtually no place exists \nthat has not been shaped, sculpted, modified, trashed or whipped \ninto shape by the hands of man.  In some places the only life \nforms larger than bacteria are humans, cockroaches, and squirrels \n(or rats).  I visited some friends up in the Appalacian mountains \none weekend, \"getting away from it all\" (paved roads, indoor plumbing, \nmalls, ...) and it felt good for a while - then I quickly noticed \nthe hollow was directly under the main flight path into Dulles - 60-80 \nmiles to the east.  (Their 'security light' didn't help matters \nmuch either.)  But I've heard the artic wilderness gets lots of \nhigh air traffic.  So I know the skies are rarely perfect. \n\nBut there is still this desire to see a place that man hasn't \nfouled in some way.  (I mean they've been TRYING this forever - \nlike, concerning Tesla's idea to banish night, - wow!)  I don't watch \ncommercial television, but I can imagine just how disgusting beer, \ntruck, or hemmorrhoid ointment advertisements would be if seen up so high.  \nIf ya' gotta make a buck on it (displaying products in heaven), at \nleast consider the reactions from those for whom the sky is a last\nbeautiful refuge from the baseness of modern life.  \n\nTo be open about this though, I have here my listing of the passage \nof HST in the evening sky for this weekend - tonight Friday at \n8:25 p.m. EDT it will reach an altitude of 20.1 degrees on the \nlocal meridian from Baltimore vicinity.  I'll be trying to see it \nif I can - it _is_ my mealticket after all.  So I suppose I could \nbe called an elitist for supporting this intrusion on the night sky \nwhile complaining about billboards proposed by others.  Be that \nas it may, I think my point about a desire for beauty is valid, \neven if it can't ever be perfectly achieved. \n\nRegards, \nWm. Hathaway \nBaltimore MD \n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThe NY Times is in error. This is not simply my opinion; even the Arab sources\nthat I use do not make this claim. This, of course, is assuming that the NY\nTimes was refering to the islands that I named above. Of those islands, only\nAbu Musa has been in dispute and Iranian occupation of that island predates\nthe existence of the UAE.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Accounts of Anti-Armenian Human Right Violations in Azerbaijan #015\n                 Prelude to Current Events in Nagorno-Karabakh\n\n         +-----------------------------------------------------------+\n         |                                                           |\n         | . . . They beat up the husband, dragged the wife outside, |\n         | and stood her naked next to our burning things; her       | \n         | husband was lying at her feet on the ground. The crowd    |\n         | shouted, \"Look at the naked Armenian!\" They were going to |\n         | throw the poor woman into the fire...Mamma wouldn't allow |\n         | it but I went to the window and saw her standing there,   |\n         | and they took skewers that had been heated in the fire    |\n         | and stuck them into her body.                             |\n         |                                                           |\n         +-----------------------------------------------------------+\n\nDEPOSITIONS OF:\n\nZINAIDA POGHOSOVNA HAKOPIAN\n\n   Born 1937\n   Dispatcher\n   Kavkazenergoremont Electric Booster Station\n\n   Her daughters\n\nGAYANE (GAYA) VAZGENOVNA HAKOPIAN\n   Born 1970\n   Orderly\n   Sumgait Municipal Hospital No. 1\n\nDIANA VAZGENOVNA HAKOPIAN\n   Born 1978\n   Second-Year Student\n   Sumgait Secondary School No. 13\n\n   Residents at Building 21\/31, Apartment 47\n   Microdistrict No. 3\n   Sumgait [Azerbaijan]\n\n\n-Zinaida: On March 20 we arrived in Yerevan, and the next day they registered\nus at the train station and took us to the boarding house. The conditions were\nwonderful, thanks to our Armenians, who received us. But it's not relaxing all\nthe same. I don't know how everyone else feels about it, but for me it's \ntorture. We don't have a place to call our own. I had a two bedroom apartment \nin Sumgait, my children went to school and we lived well, in friendship. It's \npainful that in our times, in 1988, in the Soviet period, people can break \ninto our apartment and try to kill me and my children, in whom I've put all my\nefforts and my whole youth. Everything was going well for us: my older \ndaughter was studying at the Institute, the middle one was preparing to enter \nmedical school and was interning as an orderly, and my youngest had been sick \nfor a long time, but had returned to health. I have been though a lot in my \nlife: it's been seven years since I lost my husband, I raised my children by \nmyself. Lots of women have similar fates, but there's nothing to be done about\nit. But I can't control myself when I remember what happened in Sumgait on \nFebruary 27, 28, and 29, it was just a horror, it's indescribable.\n\nOn February 27 our relative, Ira, came to visit us. She's better friends with\nmy oldest daughter, and so right away she asked, \"Where's Vika?\" I say,\n\"Vika's off in Pirkuli on a trip for three days, she's supposed to come back\ntomorrow.\" My middle daughter, Gaya, had baked a cake and we sat there talking\nand laughing, drinking tea. Then Gaya and Diana went to walk Ira home.\n\nThey left and a few minutes went by; suddenly I hear noise. I raced out to\nthe balcony--our balcony is right across from the bus station, we live at the\ncorner of Mir and Druzhba Streets--I look and see that there are hoards of\npeople near the bus station and they're all shouting something. What they're\nshouting I can't understand. Our neighbor is standing on his balcony, too. I\nask, \"Nufar, what's happened?\" He says, \"I don't know, I can't figure it out\neither.\" I got scared--the kids had gone outside, and I wanted to run after\nthem, but then there was a knock at the door. I open the door and it's the\nkids. \"Mamma,\" says Gayane, \"you'll never believe what's going on out there! \nIt's awful!\" Ira says, \"Aunt Zina, they're shouting, 'Karabagh! Karabagh! \nKarabagh is ours!' We didn't know what was going on. They're threatening to \ndrive out the Armenians and slaughter them.\"\n\nI called my brother, and his wife answered the phone. I said, \"Aunt Tamara, \ndon't worry, Ira is staying here with us, and we'll see her home later.\" I \ncouldn't shut my eyes all night long, even until morning. I was worried about\nVika. My God, what was going on, what had happened?!\n\n-Gayane: That day, on the 27th, we stood on the balcony and observed what was \nhappening, although Mamma wouldn't allow us to watch all of it. There weren't \n50 yards between our building and the bus station. We could see and hear \neverything perfectly. They were stopping buses, dragging people out, leading \nall the passengers out, looking for Armenians. If they found an Armenian on \nthe bus, then it started . . .I don't know what to call it . . .\n\n-Zinaida: It's called slaughter.\n\n-Gayane: The mob would descend on people and beat them. I don't know if they \nwere killing them or not, but when they left them, they lay still, not moving,\nas though nothing was left of them. One person was lying there and they \nstarted dragging him. The police were standing right there, to the side, not \ndoing anything, they didn't take any steps to calm that mob.\n\nIt was awful to stand there and watch it all from the balcony. And you \ncouldn't go anywhere, somehow . . . you wanted to be able to see everything\nso as to tell of it later. We wanted to leave Sumgait that day. What kept us\nwas the idea that we live in the Soviet Union, and that something would be\ndone about it. Where in the world was our government?!\n\n-Zinaida: We couldn't leave town, of course, because our older daughter wasn't\nhome. And at the same time I was terrified for Gaya and Diana. On Sunday \nmorning when I went to see Ira home, our neighbor said, \"Zin', you know they \nwent into Valodya's house and smashed everything he had. They murdered his \nfather and two sons.\" Valodya is our neighbor, he's an Armenian, he lives on \nthe first floor. I think, my God, what is happening?! And in broad daylight!\n\nI saw Ira home and when on the way back I came across a mob shouting \"Slay the\nArmenians! Karabagh is ours!\" This was at 12 o'clock in the afternoon. On the \nway I stopped into a bread store and the saleswoman says, \"They beat our store\nmanager, they thought he was an Armenian and they beat him, but he was an \nAzerbaijani.\" And I asked, \"Did they kill him?\" She says, \"No, he's in serious\ncondition.\" I left there and started to walk home on that same street, but the\nmob started moving in my direction. I turned off the street and went down the \nlittle way that goes toward the Sputnik store. There I met another crowd, but \nthese weren't bandits, these were our people from Sumgait. I was so frightened\nthat I walked without knowing where was going, I couldn't feel my legs or the \nground under my feet. I was walking and there was a boy standing before my \neyes. This was on the 27th, around evening time. He ran under our balcony, and\nthe mob surged toward him shouting, \"He's an Armenian, get him!\" He wore a \nblack coat. They grabbed him, that boy, near the bus stop, I saw it. They \ngrabbed him by the legs and struck his head on the asphalt.\n\nI made it home but I just couldn't calm down. My oldest daughter was in my \nthoughts. I was thinking, my daughter's coming home now, they'll stop her bus \nand she'll be gone. There's no police, no protection, nothing. It's like they \nhad all died, there's no one, nothing, no authorities whatsoever. I can't even\nfind the words for it! I look and see an Ikarus arriving. Before going to the \nbus station they stop near our place, across from the Kosmos movie theater. So\nthis Ikarus stops  there and the gang is yelling, the Azerbaijanis are running\ntoward it yelling, \"Armenians out!\" And I see them take the Armenians and beat\nthem, killing them. I can't watch it any more. It was a nightmare. I just \ncouldn't watch it. But Gaya was standing there watching it, and I scolded her.\nShe says, \"Mamma, I have to see it, I have to know what's happening, I have to\nsee it with my own eyes so I can tell our people of it later. So our children \nwill know.\"\n\nGayane: We saw a great deal on the 27th. They caught no less than 20 people\nbefore my eyes. I can't say for sure if they killed them or not . . .\n\n-Zinaida: There were too many people there, the mob was too big. You couldn't \nmake anything out. But I saw that boy in the black coat with my own eyes. He\nwas 18 or 19 years old.\n\n-Gayane: I think he was older, probably, about 22. A tall fellow, a big guy, \nin a coat. He was walking quickly, but when they shouted that he was an\nArmenian, he tore off running. And the mob went after him. They caught him \nright under our balcony. I don't know. I don't think there could have been \nmuch left of him after that. You can imagine what happens when a crowd attacks\none person. It was a mob, big, angry, and featureless. You know, there was a \nsimilarity in the way they were dressed, mostly they were wearing long black \ncoats. You couldn't even tell them apart, they were all wearing black and they\nall looked alike.\n\n-Zinaida: When they picked up that boy and struck him against the asphalt and \nhe cried \"Mamma!\" I ran into the room. I couldn't watch any longer. An awful \nlot was going on right then, in various places, it wasn't only that boy, \nseveral people were being beaten up. You couldn't see all of it at once, but \nwhen that boy cried \"Mamma!\" I immediately started watching only him.\n\n-Gayane: On that first day it went on from about six in the morning until\ntwelve at night. At midnight they dispersed and the police took their place.\nThey were scattered about in all districts. But how can you explain the fact\nthat by morning, when it had already started getting light, around seven\no'clock, our police were gone? The police disappeared and yielded their\npositions to the bandits. In the morning they started gathering at our inter-\nsection again, at the bus station and at the entrance to downtown. From\nmorning on all the roads and mass transit stops were covered, and by nine\no'clock you couldn't even see the ground. There were thousands of people in\nthe crowd. Again they began stopping vehicles and checking for Armenians.\n\n-Zinaida: They had signals. I realized that when I noticed that they made a \ncross with their arms, they crossed their arms over their heads. The cross,\nevidently, meant that the vehicle had Armenians in it. They let the\nAzerbaijani cars through, and they stopped the Armenian ones and started\ntheir pogrom.\n\n-Gayane: They stopped a white Zhiguli and asked the driver what his \nnationality was. He got out and said they were from Baku. \"But what is your\nnationality?\" He says Armenian. They immediately start shouting, \"Ermeni,\nErmeni!\" And he says, \"What's going on? I'm coming from Baku. I don't live\nin Sumgait.\" \"Doesn't matter, who cares if you're from Baku or Sumgait.\"\nAnyway the crowd pounced on him and started beating him, and they dragged a \nwoman--his wife, probably--out of the car. At this point the police came and \ntook the two and led them away. Then the mob started smashing the car, and \nthen burned it. The flames blazed . . . it was a horrible fire! Then everyone \nran away, they thought the car was going to explode. About 20 minutes later \nanother car comes along, a green Moskvich. They ran up shouting \"Ermeni! \nErmeni!\" But this time they didn't pull the people out of the car, they didn't\nbeat them. Maybe they burned them along with the car, because no one emerged \nfrom the flames. The neighbor boy Vakhit was standing on the balcony too, \nacquaintances of his walked by below, and he asked them and they said, \"Yes, \nthey burned them along with the car.\" About two hours later a whole wedding \nprocession came by, and there was a doll on the first car. We thought they \nwere Armenians, but the cars started to honk loudly. They were Azerbaijanis, \nand they were immediately allowed through.\n\n-Zinaida: The driver waved his hand as if to say 'get out of the way.' The\nwhole crowd parted and the procession passed through freely.\n\n-Gayane: By the way, at the marriage hall, which is right in the courtyard\nof our building, there was a wedding that day. The Azerbaijanis were cele-\nbrating and dancing. On the streets there was grief and death, people were\nbeing killed, and people were celebrating the whole time.\n\n-Zinaida: Before the apartment itself was attacked I asked Gaya to call and \nfind out when the tourist bus was supposed to arrive. She went to her \ngirlfriend's in the building, she lives in the first entryway, on the third \nfloor. Gaya came back and said, \"Mamma, the bus is supposed to come around\neight, after eight.\" You can imagine what I was feeling, how hard it was:\nVika knew nothing about what was happening and was coming to meet her death. \nThen I heard shouting. I raced to the window and see that the belongings of \nour neighbors from the second entryway are being thrown outdoors. They were \nthrashing about with the pillows and the feathers were lying like snow. I \nstarted to cry. I am walking around the room, crying, wailing: Vika's not \nhere, what will come of her . . . Gaya, of course, was consoling me: \"Mamma, \nnothing will happen to her, don't worry, calm down, she's in good company, \nthey'll look out for her.\"\n\nDiana: I saw the green car burn. The car was burning when we went out onto the\nbalcony. Gaya pushed me away, telling me to get off the balcony. I left. Then \nthey came up to the balcony and asked if there were any Armenians here.\n\n-Zinaida: You're right, I forgot about that, that was on the 27th.\n\nDiana: There's a small, grassy area in front of our balcony; there are trees\nplanted there. The mob asked if there were any Armenians in the building.\nAll the neighbors said, no, there are no Armenians here. There weren't a lot\nof Armenians in our building, but there weren't just a few Armenian families, \neither.\n\n-Gayane: They fell upon the apartments on the 28th. There were terribly many \nof them. Our courtyard is huge, and it was completely filled with them.\n\n-Zinaida: Katusev had made an appearance on television earlier. He said that \ntwo people, Azerbaijanis, had been killed in Karabagh. And when he said that \n. . . you know how bees sound, have you heard how they buzz? It was like the \nbuzzing of millions of bees . . . and with this buzzing they flew into our \ncourtyard, howling and shouting. I don't know how to describe it. By this \npoint we were afraid to watch from the balcony, but when I looked out of the \nbedroom window--the Znaniye Bookstore is down there, and Armenians live on the \nsecond and fourth floors--I saw their things being thrown out the windows. I \nrealized that they would be upon us any minute. I shouted to Gayane, \"Gaya, \nhide the gold.\" That's honestly what I told my child. I grabbed Diana. I \ndidn't know what to do! Vika still wasn't home, and it was already getting \ndark. I was afraid to look at the time because I was already horrified as it \nwas.\n\n-Gayane: Just in case, we changed the television channel from the Moscow \nstation to the Azerbaijani one.\n\n-Zinaida: And turned it up loud.\n\n-Gayane: We never listened to Azerbaijani music. It just didn't do much for \nus. In all those years we almost never listened to it. But sometimes we would\nwatch some entertainment show or film on Azerbaijani television. And that was \nit. And here we had it turned up full blast. So they would think we were \nAzerbaijanis.\n\n-Zinaida: Well you can imagine, they're slaughtering Armenians, robbing them, \nand we're listening to this concert music from Baku. Our Azerbaijani neighbors\nsuggested we do it, they knocked on the door and told Gaya to turn on \nAzerbaijani music. But we already had it on anyway. Turn on the lights, they \ntold us, so they will think you're not Armenians. They're saying the Armenians\nare afraid to turn on their lights, they're hiding.\n\n-Gayane: Apparently there was some kind of arrangement, because we noticed \nthat the lights were off only in Armenian apartments, that is, the \nAzerbaijanis were warned, and every last one of them had their lights on.\nWhen we turned the lights off two of our neighbors came immediately, and\nlater, another one. \"Turn on the lights,\" they told us, \"please. Nothing will\nhappen. Be calm. Nothing will happen.\"\n\n-Zinaida: \"We won't allow them to come into your apartment.\"\n\n-Gayane: We believed those people. We had never done anything bad to them.\n\n  -Zinaida: After the whole nightmare, about March 15, before we left for\nArmenia, when I was coming into the building they were all crying. The\nAzerbaijanis were crying, saying, \"Can it be there is no God? How could\nthey raise their hands against your family? You never did anyone any harm,\nyou never refused anyone anything, not in hard times, or in time of fortune,\nor in time of mourning. How could they give you away? How could they sell you \ndown the river?\" They really had given us away. Some of them protected us, but\nothers gave us away. They sold us down the river.\n\n-Gayane: I was wearing slacks that day, and when it all began I became \ncautious for some reason and I changed my clothes. Azerbaijani women don't \nwear pants. Young Armenian and Russian girls in Sumgait wore pants, but the \nAzerbaijanis found that very strange. And I thought I better put on a skirt, \notherwise they won't believe me if I told them we were Azerbaijanis. There was\nnothing else we could do. No other way out. I was forced to turn myself into \nGod knows who. I let my hair down, tousled it, and threw a scarf over my head.\n\n-Zinaida: And she told me, \"Mamma, you hide. Take Diana and go into the other \nroom. You two look more like Armenians. They'll figure out that we're \nArmenians right away.\" But how could I go away and leave her there?!\n\n-Gayane: I went out onto the balcony. It worked out better that way. We were \nthe only Armenian family in the fourth entryway. This gave us hope: we were \nthe only ones, the neighbors wouldn't let them in. They, the Azerbaijanis, \nwould fear for themselves and for their children. I looked and saw someone \ncrawling up on the balcony from below, it was easy to get up onto our balcony.\nWhen we would lose the keys the neighbors would let up into their places and \nwe would crawl across onto our balcony and get in that way. So I turned around\nand saw a guy with a knife on our balcony. He looks at me and shouts, \"What \nnationality are you here?\"\n\n-Zinaida: At the same time they were knocking on the door.\n\n-Gayane: \"What nationality are you?\" he's shouting. Well at first I was\nfrightened, but then I got control of myself and answered in perfect \nAzerbaijani, \"You should be ashamed of yourself, asking a question like that.\nCan't you see I'm an Azerbaijani? If I were an Armenian would I come out to \nmeet you face to face and look you in the eyes?\" He looks at me and tells the\npeople with him, \"Yes, Azerbaijanis live here.\" From below they tell him,\n\"Check it out, it can't be, they have to be Armenians.\" And he asks me again,\n\"What nationality are you?\" I say, \"Can't you see?\" I started fuming. I could\nnot say anything else. \"You're blind, that's for sure! You can yell all you\nwant, but that won't make us Armenians.\" I hear them breaking down our\ndoor, and Mamma went toward the door. I say, \"I don't have time to deal\nwith you, they're breaking down our door.\" 1 go to the door and ask, \"Who is\nit?\" They answer, \"Open up!\" I say, \"Wait, why are you breaking the door?\nWhat's going on? I'm opening up.\" We never locked the lower lock, it was\nbroken, but now they had locked it out of fear, and I couldn't get it open. I\nsay wait, I'm looking for the key. I opened the door--it was almost broken\ndown already. I opened the door and they burst in. I say, \"What's going on?\nWhy are you breaking down our door?\"\n\n-Zinaida: Then they started climbing in from the balcony. They're shouting, \n\"Why don't you open the door?\" And I say, \"Well you've already come in the \nbalcony.\" Then Diana sees their knives, runs into the bathroom, and closes the\ndoor. Gaya cries out, \"Mamma, Diana ran into the bathroom!\" I ran to the door \nand forgot that we were pretending to be Azerbaijanis, and said in Armenian: \n\"Diana, open the door!\" Gaya tried to calm them down, and I'm shouting with\ntears in my eyes for Diana to open the door.\n\n-Diana I was sitting on the couch with my doll, Little Red Riding Hood. That \nguy climbed in from the balcony with a big knife with a yellow handle. They \nput it up to Mamma's stomach. I ran to the bathroom, opened the door, and \nslammed it behind me. I was frightened, and started to cry. I shouted, \"Mamma,\nthey want to kill you!\" And then . . . then they started shouting, \"Give us \nyour passports.\" And Gaya says, \"What do you need passports for, we're \nAzerbaijanis.\"\n\n-Gayane: I tried to convince them that we were Azerbaijanis, I was trying\neverything I could, I could get on my knees and plead. I could humble myself, \nbecause at that moment I was worried about other lives than just my own. To be\nhonest I didn't care about anything else, as long as my little sister would \nsurvive, her life and health had cost us so dearly! I tell them, \"What, don't \nyou understand anything?\" They started shouting, they were tremendously \nexcited, shouting with terribly loud voices, saying that in Stepanakert their \ngirls were being killed, raped, and tossed around with pitchforks. Why \nshouldn't they do the same to us? I said, \"Who's doing all that? Who is doing \nit? Some Armenians! What does that have to do with us? Give me the knife, I'll\ncut my own face.\" \"Now you calm down,\" they tell me.\n\nZinaida: I told them, \"Why didn't you deal with them there! There, in \nKarabakh? Nothing has happened here, no one has been fighting here, not we \nwith the Armenians, nor they with us. Why didn't you give it right back to\nthem there? What've we got to do with this?\" I got confused. I had been\nsaying that we were Azerbaijanis, but suddenly I started speaking as though\nI were an Armenian, but they didn't notice. One of them was next to me,\nwith a knife at my breast. And he says to the others, \"What pretty girls.\" He\nmeant Gaya and my 10-year-old Diana. I was terrified. Gaya started assuring \nthem that we were Azerbaijanis. One guy stood in the doorway and gave us bad \nlooks.\n\n-Gayane: He demanded the passports. I said, \"Young man, I don't have my \npassport here.\" He says, \"Let's have the passport, we won't believe you\nwithout your passport.\" And one of them started hurriedly searching for\ndocuments. They turned the wardrobe in the other room upside down, took the \npicture off the wall, and started pulling the clothes off their hooks, yelling\nand shouting, \"Passport! Passport!\" They all started yelling, there was so \nmuch noise in the apartment. They were all shouting. My hair stood on end. \nSuddenly I said, \"Listen, my Papa died, 40 days haven't passed yet, we have a \nMuslim household, we're in mourning, you should be ashamed of yourselves, \nyou've disgraced your honor.\" And then Mamma started to cry.\n\n-Zinaida: I started crying: \"My husband died, 40 days haven't yet passed,\naren't you ashamed of yourselves!\" In fact my husband had died seven years\nearlier, in 1981. \"We're in mourning, and you burst in here demanding docu-\nments. The documents are at the housing office, I'm filing for my pension.\"\nWell it seemed like they believed us. Then one guy said, \"They're Lezgins.\nCan't you see, there are no men here, only women. Leave.\" Another fellow in\nthe group agreed with him, he also said that we were Lezgins. But a third\nsaid, \"No, they're Armenians.\" Well the other two convinced him, I don t know \nhow, and all the rest of them listened to them too. There were about 50 of \nthem, if not more, all in our three-room apartment, even the entryway was \nfilled. They started leaving. Yes, we're Lezgins, we're Lezgins.\" They started\nleaving, and one of them took our tape recorder with him. And the one who had \nfirst called us Lezgins says, \"Leave that, what are you doing?\" They seemed to\nobey that guy.\n\n-Gayane: He was tall, wearing baggy jeans and a coat.\n\n-Zinaida: With a little moustache, I think.\n\n-Gayane: No, he didn't have a moustache, he was tall with brown hair, he \nwasn't a bad-looking sort. He didn't have anything in his hands.\n\n-Zinaida: He stood at the threshold.\n\n-Gayane: Yes, he didn't look like a bad guy, and you know, his face seemed \nfamiliar to me. I had seen him somewhere. And more than once. But I can't \nremember where. When he came in I was stupefied, I had a premonition that he \nwouldn't be able to remain indifferent. When he said that we were Lezgins and \nthat they should leave, such gladness started to glow inside of me. Hope. They\ncontinued to argue on their way out. Some said, \"They're Armenians all the \nsame.\" And that fellow answered, \"even if they are Armenians, it's shameful,\nthe father died, they're mourning, there's nothing but women in the house, \nthere's no men. We should stay out of the apartment.\" \"What do you mean, stay \nout? We can go in there!\" And he said, \"No, we should stay out, they're \nLezgins, we're leaving here.\" The three of them protected us.\n\n   -Zinaida: No, the two of them. The one in the short coat and the one in the\ngrey suit, who stood at the threshold, about 19 or 20 years old. Well they\nwere all young really. The two of them defended us.\n\n-Diana: Three, three!\n\n-Zinaida: Do you remember the third one, Diana?\n\n-Diana: Yes, he was wearing dark clothes.\n\n-Gayane: The third one was the one who came back. He wore a long brown coat.\n\n-Diana: He wore a long, darkish brown coat, and his hair was dark too. When \nthey left, they told him downstairs that those women were Armenians, and ran \nback and said that they were going to kill us.\n\n-Zinaida: They had all left, and we had started to calm down a little, and I\nclosed the door. And then there is a knock. I told Gaya, \"Take Diana and go\ninto the other room.\" My daughters went into the dining room, and I opened the\ndoor. There was a guy there who said, \"Run, hide! They're coming to kill you \nnow!\" We ran up to the third floor. We had some good neighbors up there,\nAzerbaijanis. I sent the kids and stood there alone, not knowing what to do. \nI was so far gone . . . Out of a whole room I couldn't even think of anything \nto take. I even forgot to take my work documents; at the time I had been \npreparing a report to send to Baku, and the documents were at home. I couldn't\nsee anything . . . I could only see Vika, my older daughter. I sent Gaya and \nDiana upstairs, and stood there asking that fellow, \"Should I close the door \nand leave everything like this?\" He says, \"What do you mean, door? Get out of \nhere, they're coming to kill you! What are you standing there for?\" And I ran \nafter the children.\n\n-Gayane: We barely had time to get up to the third floor when they burst into \nour apartment and started shouting, \"Where are the Armenians?\" We were already\nat the neighbors'. They had an infant at the time, and the neighbor said, \n\"Don't you worry, I'm not letting anyone in this apartment no matter what.\"\n\n-Zinaida: On the third floor there I started asking the folks, our neighbors,\nto go meet Vika. The bus was due to arrive at eight o'clock. I dissolved in\ntears, Gaya was soothing me, Diana was next to us, she was crying too, and I'm\nalready thinking that I've lost my older daughter, but deep in my heart I \nstill believe she's alive . . . And my tears choked me. I was going out of my\nmind. But no one could leave the building, the courtyard was packed with\npeople, swarming with them. From the balcony the neighbor in whose apartment \nwe were hiding asked the bandits, \"Where are those Armenians, the ones who \nwere at home? Where did they make off to?\" They told him they didn't know. \nThey asked him where he lived. He answered, \"Can't you see, on the third \nfloor.\" He asked them specially to divert attention from his own apartment. We\nheard them taking free reign of our apartment, and they threw our color \ntelevision off the balcony and it exploded.\n\n-Gayane: Mamma was crying the whole time. She fell into a faint and we brought\nher around and held her back, because the whole time she kept making for the \ndoor to go outside, alternately raving and sobbing, shouting, and calling \nVika. She didn't notice us, probably because we were next to her. Her thoughts\nwere only on Vika. The neighbors who were hiding us were calming her too, \noffering tea.\n\n-Zinaida: We are very grateful to them. Thanks to them my children and I are\nalive, well, and unharmed. When they were throwing our belongings out and \nburning them--the beds, the pillows, and the chairs--our neighbor came to us \nand said, \"How lucky you are that it's not you standing there naked, but some \nother woman instead. You're from our part of the building you lost your \nhusband, you have children, thank God you're not in her position, we wouldn't \nhave been able to take it. I don't know what I would do.\" He of course \nwouldn't have done anything, he was just trying to calm us down. In the yard \nthey were torturing our neighbors, fellow Armenians They lived on the fifth \nfloor, in the third entryway. A married couple, Vanya and Nina, and their \nthree children. Their last name is V. They hid their two daughters, and stayed\nwith their son to defend themselves, they even got boiling water ready, and an\naxe, and held them off for a long time, but the . . . They beat up the \nhusband, dragged the wife outside, and stood her naked next to our burning \nthings; her husband was lying at her feet on the ground. The crowd shouted, \n\"Look at the naked Armenian!\" They were going to throw the poor woman into the\nfire. The neighbors came out, an Azerbaijani woman threw her a scarf, and she \ncovered herself with it, and the neighbors led her off to their apartment. \nAll the neighbors saw and heard it . . .\n\n-Gayane: Mamma wouldn't allow it but I went to the window and saw her standing\nthere, and they took skewers that had been heated in the fire and stuck them \ninto her body. Our neighbor, who lived in the same entryway as Nina--she \nlives with us in the same boarding house now--saw what they had done, Nina \nshowed her, from her knees up, almost up to her neck, her whole body was \ncovered, riddled, with wounds.\n\n-Zinaida: In the morning, during the night of the 29th, rather, after one\no'clock, two buses approached the station. I wanted to run out. By then I\ndidn't care any more if I lived or died, but Gayane wouldn't let me go, and\nthe neighbors said that I would bring disaster to them and they would be\nslain along with their children. Gaya was crying and said that I forgot about\nthem, my other children, but I could only think of Vika. I imagined her torn\nto pieces, I'm a mother, and they're just children, they don't understand I\nwould have jumped off the balcony and run to the soldiers for help. I was\ngoing to do it but Gayane wouldn't let me: \"Mamma, please! Mamma, I beg of \nyou!\" The neighbors were sleeping and Gayane woke them with her cries. So we \nheld on that way till morning.\n\nOn the morning of the 29th I told our neighbor I was going to go downstairs to\nour apartment, maybe Vika was lying there, murdered. He told me he would go \nhimself. He was gone for about five minutes, but it seemed like an eternity to\nme. He returned and said there was no one there, nothing. I went down too, \nstole down like a mouse, and slipped in everything was thrown all about. I \ndidn't go to the soldiers because the armored personnel carriers were far \naway, farther than the bus station. I began looking for the briefcase with my \nwork in it. I was miserable because of my daughter, and at the same time \nbecause of my work. My documents were there, my travel papers--I worked in the\ntransport division -- and my trip sheets.\n\n-Gayane: Mamma is a very responsible person, she was always ready to work \naround the clock to do her job.\n\n-Zinaida: I look around and I can't find the briefcase. I didn't care about \nthe fact that everything had been stolen out of all three of my rooms, that\neverything was smashed, and the furniture was broken, I worried about that\nlater, but at first I was concerned about the lost documents. I went into the\nkitchen. My daughter had hidden some valuables in the gas stove: my ring and \nmy earrings. It was all there. Five minutes passed and Gayane ran in and said,\n\"Mamma, hurry.\" And Diana came downstairs too. Gayane found  her coat among \nthe debris, and Diana found her track shoes, her coat, and some of her \ndresses.\n\n-Diana: Immediately after we got back up to the neighbors they started \nthrowing things around in the apartment under us. They threw a television onto\nthe asphalt, it exploded so violently it sounded like a thunderclap. Then, \nwhen Vika wasn't there, I wouldn't eat, and they forced me, but I couldn't \neat. Because I loved Vika terribly and she and I had always gone to the movies\nand gone for walks in the park. When we went into our apartment the next day \nand everything was broken, right away I started looking for my dolls and my \nbooks, but I didn't see anything. When we went back upstairs I managed to take\ntwo cups from my tea service, and Gaya took Vika's suit and one of her own \ndresses. My Italian boots were gone, my brown coat, it was beautiful, there \nwasn't a one of my beautiful dolls, and my giant lion was gone too, the one \nthat had been on top of the television. He was very large and very handsome. \nI had two satchels, one for first grade and the other for second grade, one \nwas yellow-green with a boy and a girl on it, they're playing a drum and a \nviolin, and there is a dog sitting there closing its ears, and on the other \none were the letters A, B, C, D, E and the numbers 4+5, two girls and a boy \nwith their mouths open like they are singing. They were beautiful satchels. \nThey were gone too. I had many books, I collected them, they were in the \nbedside tables. And a boy had given me a little apron and a headband for my \nbirthday, they weren't around either. And I had some big books, fat ones, and \nthey disappeared, only one was left, The Malachite Box. The Adventures of \nKarlson, Pippi Longstockings, and Fairy Tales of the World were left. All the \nother books were gone.\n\n-Zinaida: I continued searching for my briefcase, and then my supervisor\narrived. He had waited for me until nine o'clock, but I didn't appear, and he\nthought something must have happened, so he came. He's a Russian, Aleksei \nSemyonovich Lomakin. Alik Aliyev, the mechanic, came with him. When they saw \nmy wrecked apartment they were just petrified, they could not say a thing. \nWhen I saw them I started crying. My Azerbaijani neighbors came in. Some of \nthem were crying, others were helping me pick up. I go on looking for my \ndocuments and at the same time put things into the wardrobe. Now that I \nremember it it's both funny and painful: How could I have thought that I had \nreturned to my apartment and that everything had gone back to normal? \nIncidentally, later, when I went back to the apartment again those things were\ngone too. And the door was gone. After my supervisor left, in the afternoon, \nthe neighbor said that we should leave, find another refuge. \"I'm afraid,\" he \nsaid, \"that someone saw you come to my apartment, and that they could kill you\nand us too. My God, where could I go it was daytime and those . . . I don't \neven know what to call them, the bandits, those marauders, those jackals, I \ndon't know what to call them, I can't find the words, they were everywhere. \nWhere should I go with two girls? When I opened the door I had tears in my \neyes, and I was terrified . . . And he said, \"Go to Alik's, he's an\nAzerbaijani, too.\" and I say, \"You should have said that earlier, when my \nsupervisor was here with the car, he could have taken us with him.\" Everyone \nfeared for their own lives. What could I do? I went out into the entryway and \nstood. And he says, \"any other time I would keep you here a year, or two. But \nright now, I'm sorry . . . \" Then another door opened, also on the third \nfloor. I ask the neighbor, \"Tayara, can we hide at your place?\" She's an \nAzerbaijani too. She says, \"What kind of question is that? Come in!\" She hid \nus. There were many people in the courtyard, and Gaya and I hid in the \nwardrobe, and they put Diana under a mattress, leaving a small opening so the \nchild could breathe. Tayara said that when the bandits left she would let us \nout, and when they came back she would hide us again.\n\nWe sat in the wardrobe for about a half hour. Gaya became ill, and I allowed \nher to get out. My legs fell asleep and felt like cannons. We hadn't eaten or \ndrunk anything for so long, since the 27th, when we saw that horror--and all \nof it just snapped in me. Tayara's husband went outside, even though I begged \nhim to stay, saying there should be a man in the house. He said that he'd be \nin the courtyard, and if anything happened his wife would signal him. She put \nher passport and all of their documents on the table so if they suddenly came \nin she could show them that they were an Azerbaijani family. My girls went to \nthe window--and what was going on out there! I feared for my children, that \nsomeone would recognize them from the street. Gaya let her hair down and put \non a scarf so she would resemble an Azerbaijani, but directly across there was\na 9-story building, their windows were right across from us, and I shouted \nthat someone would see her and give us away on the spot. But she kept on \nlooking.\n\n-Diana: I watched too.\n\n-Zinaida: Downstairs the bandits were fighting with the soldiers. The soldiers\ndidn't shoot, they didn't have orders to. I saw them throwing rocks at\nthe soldiers, they were young boys, 18- and 19-year olds, and they defended\nthemselves . . . I'm a mother after all, and they were no different from my\nchildren. When one of the soldiers fell and his head started bleeding I had to\nstop looking, l couldn't watch anymore . . . I imagined my children in their\nshoes . . .\n\n-Gayane: The troops had assumed their defense that morning and had cordoned \noff the buildings, and some of the soldiers surrounded the bus station, Block \n36, and our Microdistrict 3. But they only cordoned them off from the outside.\nThe mob fell upon the soldiers, who started to protect themselves, and the mob\nsurged into the courtyard with the soldiers after it. They caught several \nAzerbaijanis and started beating them with their clubs. One fell down and they\ncracked open another's head . . .\n\n-Zinaida: They show Lebanon on television, and the war in Afghanistan--that's just\nwhat it was like. Like in America, how they attack demonstrations with shields\nand clubs--that's just how it was in our courtyard.\n\n-Gayane: Don't compare it with America, those were peaceful demonstrations, \nbut these?!\n\n-Zinaida: But how could it happen here and not off somewhere in America! They \nattacked the soldiers, hurled stones at them . . . Then I thought, where's the\ntear gas that the Americans use to disperse demonstrators? If they had used \ngas on those jackals they all would have scattered.\n\n-Gayane: They would not have scattered. The soldiers had been there since \nmorning, they didn't bring in fresh troops. They hadn't eaten, they were fine \nstanding there for about three hours, but then they got tired. They weren't \neven allowed to sit down . . . At noon they, the soldiers, attacked them, and \nthen the tables were turned. The mob went after the soldiers, the guys were \nbunched into a group in the center street and covered themselves with their \nshields, and the Azerbaijanis surrounded them and threw paving stones at them.\nAnd those guys sat there covering themselves with their shields. And meanwhile\ntanks with machine guns were cruising the streets . . . They always say, \"Our \nchildren have never seen war.\" I never even dreamed about it, there was no \nneed to. But then I thought about those people who had lived through a war. It\nwas truly horrible . . . The guys were tired, exhausted, some had had their \nclubs taken away, others, their shields, they had been beaten, they were \ncovered in blood . . . so many died! They beat the soldiers with their own \nclubs and shields. And those guys stood there and couldn't defend themselves, \nthey couldn't open fire. They couldn't even defend themselves, let alone us. \nIt's comical . . .\n\n-Zinaida: What are you saying? How can it be funny?\n\n-Gayane: No, I didn't mean that: How could something like that happen during \nour Soviet period? It's painfully embarrassing! And they burned the armored \npersonnel carriers, too. Someone shouted, \"Get away, it's going to blow!\" \nEveryone scattered away, and the armored personnel carrier exploded. The \nsoldiers lost their senses. And when they drove the personnel carrier and the \nbus at the mob out of rage and fury, they drove right up on the sidewalk.\n\n-Zinaida: The bus that had brought the troops. Only the driver was in it. The \nbus ran over three people straight off, I saw it. And two armored personnel \ncarriers ran over four more. All in one or two minutes. The bus ran over \nthree, one of the carriers ran over two, and the second, two more. Right on \nour street there's a dry cleaners and appliance and watch repair places; one \nof the armored personnel carriers went that way, and they say it ran over\nseveral over there, too. But they ran over seven before our eyes. Then the bus\nploughed into a book kiosk.\n\n-Gayane: No, that was a flower place. It was a new booth. He drove straight \ninto it.\n\n-Zinaida: The driver jumped out and they dragged the vehicle out to the\nmiddle of the road and set it on fire.\n\n-Gayane: And I also saw the troops put a bunch of Azerbaijanis in a bus and \ntake them in a convoy to Baku. There were many arrests.\n\n-Zinaida: Our neighbor, the one who hid us, couldn't take it, and he told his \nwife that we should leave. They were running around in the courtyard looking \nfor the Armenians. They knew that they were hiding with Azerbaijanis, and they\nwere saying that they were going to check the Azerbaijani families. Poor \nTayara got scared too, and started to cry; I pleaded with her, I said that I \nwould remember forever how she saved my children and me, but where could we \ngo?\n\n-Gayane: She didn't make us leave, she said that she would do anything, but \nshe was afraid.\n\n-Zinaida: I told Tayara that we would just stay a little longer and that at\nnight we would return to our apartment. Then her husband came back and said \nthat a curfew had been imposed. He says, \"Zina, you owe us a drink. Gorbachev \nannounced a curfew.\" And Bagirov [First Secretary of the Communist Party of \nAzerbaijan SSR] was on television, he said that two people had been killed in \nKarabagh, but nothing was wrong, automobile windows had been broken, but there\nhadn't been any killings. He kept making statements, and there were \nAzerbaijani songs and dances. Tayara turned the TV all the way up. When we \nlearned of the curfew we calmed down, but then a crowd ran into the courtyard \nagain, a large one. Our neighbor told them that there had been only one \nArmenian family here, but they had already killed them all, there was no one \nleft. We hid in the wardrobe again. and they stuck Diana back under the bed.\n\n-Gayane: Tayara went down to our apartment to see what was happened there, and\nfound two bandits. They asked her, \"What are you doing here\" Tayara answered, \n\"I came to take something for myself.\" \"Take all you want, they're gone now.\" \n\n-Zinaida: Yes, she had wanted to get something for us, at least some bedding. \nShe said, \"What are you going to do, empty handed, naked, with three children,\nnothing remains of your entire apartment.\" In short, we calmed down, and the \ncrowd raced off to the other building, the one across from us. I don't know \nwhat went on there.\n\n-Gayane: The curfew had its effect on the gangs, many started to disperse:\nthey were warned that they would open fire on them. The soldiers didn't know \nthe city, they couldn't get oriented, they drove up and down the main streets,\nbut didn't go into the courtyards. When we were at the City Party Committee \nthey asked people from Sumgait to go with them and show them the way.\n\n-Zinaida: The tanks entered the city on the night of the 29th.\n\n-Gayane: No, Mamma, the tanks had been there earlier, but were near the City \nParty Committee, where the Armenians were . . . After midnight, on March 1, \nwhen I had finally gotten to sleep after two sleepless nights, Mamma said, \n\"Get your things together, they have sent buses for us.\" As it was we had been\ndressed the entire time. Mamma went to check it out . . .and came back for us.\n\n-Zinaida: When I came back for the children Tayara said that Vika was alive \nand well, some guys had come and told her that they had hidden her in a safe \nplace. I both believed it and didn't believe it. We ran out to the tanks. The \nGambarians were there, Roman and Sasha; their father, Shurik, the clarinetist,\nwas killed, and their mother was there. Sasha came over and asked about the \ngirls. I was surprised, how did he know my girls? He said that he knew me and \nthe girls. Our neighbor himself went for Gaya and Diana and it seemed like he \nwas taking forever so I went after him. Another neighbor came out, Anna \nVasilyevna, a Russian: \"Zinochka, my dear, goodbye and good luck.\" She kissed \nDiana. They put us in the bus and the captain gave the order for us to be \ntaken to the City Party Committee. The bus wouldn't start, so they put us on \nanother one. It was pouring rain.\n\n-Diana: When they imposed the curfew there were many soldiers on the streets, \nand they all had clubs and shields. And when the Azerbaijanis attacked them, \nmany of the soldiers died. They threw paving stones--huge rocks--at the \nsoldiers. I saw this myself. The soldiers ran over those Azerbaijanis with the\ntanks. The soldiers saw that the Azerbaijanis were doing violence to people \nand they ran over them out of rage. We got scared and they hid me under a \nmattress and a blanket, and Gaya and Mamma crawled into the wardrobe. And they\nwere fighting right down there on the street . . . Near the building they were\nblowing up buses and tanks, and cars were burning, and there were many dead in\nthe courtyard. They drove without looking to see if it was a sidewalk or a \nstreet, they just drove, and the ones who didn't manage to get out of the way \nwere run over by the tanks. And when we left--it was evening, it was already \ndark--there were three buses, and one of them had soldiers in it. Mamma ran up\nand said, \"Get your clothes on, let's go.\" Gaya was wearing slippers, and I \nhad on my blue dress, but it was an old one. I was wearing my old jacket, my \nold dress, and slippers. And nothing else. Gaya had on a skirt, her Angora \nsweater, and slippers. It was raining hard, and there were puddles on the \nstreet. They gave Mamma an old coat because she was wearing a short-sleeved \ndress; she put it on and we ran out. We got onto the bus and I was hungry, one\nof the soldiers from Yerevan gave me rations and carried me from one bus to\nthe other in his arms. I gave him the little glass that remained from Vika's\ntrousseau, and he gave me his telephone number.\n\n-Gayane: In the bus there was a soldier with a shield sitting at every window.\nWe had to be ready for anything. They took us to the City Party Committee, let\nus out, and then took us into the City Party Committee building under armed \nguard. It was jammed with people and you couldn't breathe. We asked, \"Are \nthese all us? Armenians?\" They answered yes. We were surprised that there were\nso many Armenians in Sumgait. All those years we lived there and didn't know \nthere were so many Armenians, 18,000. We were struck by that, we had never \nnoticed. Going downstairs the next day I ran into the Secretary of the \nKomsomol from Vika's plant, the Khimprom. He said that Vika was alive and \nwell. When I told Mamma she of course calmed down some more. But you know, \nafter all that it was hard to believe anything, our faith in everything was \njust gone. She didn't believe it completely.\n\n-Zinaida: I didn't believe it because I had heard all kinds of things. When\nwe arrived at the City Party Committee we heard everything imaginable! It\nwas the fear of God. I saw many of our acquaintances, they were kissing each \nother and asking how their children and homes were. Many people already knew \nthat there had been a pogrom of our apartment. They had seen the broken \nwindows. I cried, saying that I didn't know where Vika was. One woman said \nthat they had taken two of her daughters and that she couldn't find one of \nthem; the other had been slashed all over. A second said that her husband and\nher son had been murdered. That was Nelli Aramian. She lived in Building 6 in \nour microdistrict. They killed her husband, Armo, and her son Artur. I heard \nso many things like that that I was already starting to lose touch; my \npatience had run dry waiting for my daughter. Later an Azerbaijani fellow came\nto me and said, Aunt Zina, Vika sent me, she's alive and well and hidden in a \nsafe place; if you want I'll call her there and you can speak with her. We \nwent downstairs to the first floor and he called Vika. I spoke with her, heard\nthe voice of my child. She had managed to survive in that hell. Then I started\nbegging that Azerbaijani to bring her to the City Party Committee. He tried to\ntalk me out of it: \"I'll bring her wherever you go, don't worry, I've looked \nafter her better than a brother does a sister.\" All the same I asked him to \nget her. He brought her and I calmed down. On the second day there was a \nmeeting with Demichev [Member of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the\nCommunist Party of the USSR,] and people started shouting. One shouted, \"Give \nme my son back!\", another yelled, \"Where is my daughter?!\", a third wanted her\nhusband . . . Bagirov  was there too, and he stood there blinking, not saying \nanything.\n\n-Gayane: When Demichev asked where we wanted to go, everyone shouted, \"To\nRussia!\" To be honest we were all frightened of Armenia, there were such wild \nrumors it was as though we were in a terrible dream, and no one wanted to go \nto Armenia. But he said that he couldn't evacuate 18,000 people to Russia and \nthat he would meet with everyone individually the next day and speak with \nthem. And he also said that today he was going to go look at all of our \napartments. On March 3 we went to the military barracks in the village of \nNasosny. We were taken care of marvelously by the military. They sent special \nflights of children right from there to Minvody, Yerevan, and Moscow. One \nwoman left for Moscow with a letter for Gorbachev and Gromyko.\n\n-Zinaida: The worst was truly behind us by then. Everything had passed, but \nthe pain will remain for our whole lives. It cannot be forgotten. Under no \ncircumstances should we, our children, or our grandchildren forget. Who will\nanswer for those who died? For our mothers, sisters, brother, sons and\ndaughters? Who will bear the responsibility? Who will wash away their blood? \nSomeone should be made to answer, and severely, so it has an effect on the \npeople that did with us as they pleased . . . It isn't over yet, now we live \nhere, in Armenia, protected, but the issue isn't resolved. We would like\nto stay in Armenia, in our homeland, so that all the Armenian people will be\nunited. Then we will be invincible. Armenians won't be scattered throughout \nthe Soviet Union, about the world, and if we're all together this won't happen\nagain. As a mother of three children, as a woman, as a sister, I ask Armenians\nto be united so that what happened in Sumgait will never happen again. Our \nhomeland . . . The only request we have is that we be helped in obtaining an \napartment and getting jobs. So that our children can work for the good of \nArmenia. If we aren't able to, then let our children do it. And if it's \npossible, we'll work for the good of Armenia too. This is the land of our \nforefathers. Our grandfathers and great-grandfathers lived here too, it was \nonly later that people dispersed all over. Like a mother, the land here bore \nand reared us. It is our wife, and will protect us, too. I want but one thing:\nthat our people never see the hardship that our children saw, that your \nchildren here, in Armenia, never see anything like it.\n\n  May 28, 1988\n  Yerevan\n\t\t     - - - reference - - -\n\n[1] _The Sumgait Tragedy; Pogroms against Armenians in Soviet Azerbaijan,\n    Volume I, Eyewitness Accounts_, edited by Samuel Shahmuradian, forward by\n    Yelena Bonner, 1990, published by Aristide D. Caratzas, NY, pages 187-203\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nYup, I think you're right.  My mistake.  Now, how do I make\nan \"R\" backwards using a computer keyboard?\n\nI'll bet the gods know how (this is alt.atheism, after\nall).  Tell you what, if all my \"R\"s start coming out\nbackwards when I type from now on, I'll become a believer.\n\n(And that's not asking for miracles.  If I asked for a miracle,\nI'd ask for a real miracle, like for Pat Buchanan to become\nan out-of-the-closet drag queen - well...maybe that wouldn't be\nso miraculous, but I think he'd look fabulous in a feather\nboa and a sequined hat like Mia Farrow wore in Gatsby.)","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"What we call today the \"Old Testament\" was being written up to approx-\nimately 168 BCE, according to most modern scholars.  Aside from the book of\nDaniel, the whole OT predates Alexander (the Great).  These books were written\n(predominantly) in Hebrew.\n\tThere were also other books being written at about this time and later\nby Greek-speaking, or \"Hellenistic\", Jews.  These books are those which are\nreckoned by many denominations as \"Apocrypha\".\n\tBefore the closing of the Writings, the third part of what is today\ncalled the canon, all of the books were in use by Jews of the day.  However,\nthere were those who reckoned (based on Zech. 13) that prophecy had ceased.\nThis faction maintained that there were no true prophets in their day.  They\nalso maintained that literature of a prophetic character could not be genuine\nteachings from God.\n\tBy the time of c.65 CE, another faction had entered the mess.  Christians\nhad come in claiming that THEIR writings were also suitable to be read in\nsynagogues and used for worship.  Therefore, the Palestinian Jewish leaders\ngot together and stated that the books written from the time of Ben Sira (Sirach)\nonward were not sacred writings.  They justified this from Zech. 13.  In\nparticular, they said, the writings of the Christians (called heretics) were\nnot inspired.\n\tAt about 90 CE, they codified things further by closing the canon in\nsomewhat of an official sense at the Council of Jamnia.  A few books (Ecclesi-\nastes, Song of Songs, Esther) made it in after that date, but these were those\nwhich had been written prior to the official cut off point (the time of Ben\nSira) for inclusion that they had established in order to keep out the Christian\nand Hellenistic writings.\n\tJerome excluded the 'apocrypha' because they were not in use by Jews\nof his day and because they were (except for Sirach) not found in Hebrew in his\ntime.  His criterion for separating them from the other pre-Christian writings\nwas not based on 'inspiration'.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Message-ID: <1993Apr26.202714.4519@Virginia.EDU>\nDate: Mon, 26 Apr 1993 20:27:14 GMT\n\n\nFirst, the following two quite normal phrases:    \n\n       ^^^^^^^^^^^\n                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^   \n\nand then he shows us what HE means by \"intelligent and unoffending manner\" \nand \"INTELLIGENT conversation\":   \n\n                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^\n   [...deleted lines...]\n\n                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n   [...deleted lines...]      \n\n   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  \n   [...deleted lines...]\n                                                    \n\n   Later he reveals the truth:\n\n                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ \n   [...deleted lines...] \n\n   Shurely he IS an anti-Semite (call it anti-Jew), maybe BECAUSE he\n   is \"part Jewish\"  (e.g. his mother might have *dated*  a Jew who\n   didn't marry her, and so she got a little bastard whom she taught\n   hatred).  \n   \n   He is also a coward since he doesn't dare to sign with his name.  \n   At the end he signs with a highly intelligent and intellectual \n   phrase:   \n \n\n\n\nMessage-ID: <1993Apr26.203425.4824@Virginia.EDU>\nDate: Mon, 26 Apr 1993 20:34:25 GMT\n\n\n   The  Nazis  might also have sent this bastard to the gas chambers\n   because of his \"part Jewish\"ness (only that he is not aware of it).   \n\nPS: I wonder what kind of educational institution is @virginia.edu.\n    Could it be the \"Free KKK-University of Virginia\" ? ;-)\n    \n -----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n  Manfredo Tichauer M.                       EMAIL : tichauer@valpso.hanse.de\n  Opitzstrasse 14                            VOICE :     (++ 49 40)  27.42.27\n  2000 Hamburg 60 - GERMANY                  FAX   :     (++ 49 40) 270.53.09","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I have found a situation which I think is a bug in X or Motif, but I'm hoping\nis really just a mistake on my part.  Does anyone know anything about\nthis problem........\n\n- I am using an XmTextField, and setting its XmNvalue to a hardcoded\n  text string (ascii or Kanji) either via XtSetValues or XmTextSetString.\n  The problem is that when the XmTextField is displayed, the text is getting\n  truncated, depending on the setting of the environment variables\n  LANG (more specifically LC_ALL).  When they are set to japanese,\n  the text gets truncated.  When they are set to english, everything\n  works fine.  I am taking the default for XmNcolumns.\n  (Please note that hardcoding of text is NOT done in my actual\n   application, just in my sample code to make things easier)\n\t\n- I am running Motif 1.2, X11R5 via HPUX9.01.  My test program is set up\n  to handle 16 bit Kanji characters.  I have remembered to do   \n  XtSetLanguageProc() prior to my MrmInitialize and my font resources\n  are set to japanese fonts.\n\n- Don't know if this matters, but my dialog box and TextField is initially\n  created with UIL. \n\n\nThe problem does NOT happen with XmText.  Unfortunately substituting\nXmTextFields with XmTexts in my application is not an acceptable\nalternative (way too much code to be modified while in beta!)\n\nI have a small test program which illustrates the problem if anyone\nwants it.  My best guess is that either the X code or Motif is not\nproperly allocating memory for japanese, but since I don't have the\nsource to look at it is just a guess.\n\nPlease let me know if this sounds familiar, or if you have a suggestion,\nor if you want the sample program.\n\nTHANKS!!!!!!!!\n\n- Susan ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nI definitely do.  That's why I don't like going to see games played\non artificial turf :-)\n\n\nWell, your idea of \"interesting\" differs from mine.  I think\nbatting practice is interesting, for example, and make a special\neffort to get to the game very early in order to see it.  I think the\ndelaying tactics of batters, pitchers, catchers, and managers are\ninteresting because they're attempts to gain advantage through control\nof the flow and timing of the game.  Of course, the umpires can, and\nshould, intervene when these tactics get out of hand.  As Ryan Robbins\nhas pointed out, there are rules that cover this.\n\nOne of the more fascinating things about baseball, I think, is its\nopen-endedness with regard to time.  You never know if the game is going\nto zip right by and be over in less than two hours, or if it's going to\ngo on until four in the morning.  Likewise, some games are action-packed,\nand some games are slow and lazy.  That's fine by me.  Those folks who\nwant constant action should watch the games on TV so they can channel-\nsurf and cater to their short attention spans.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n    I don't remember the formula's off hand as it has been awhile since\nI took aerodynamics and haven't used the stuff since. \nThe Cd is related to the drag force which is what effects top speed and\nfuel consumption. When the drag force on the car or aircraft is greater\nthan what the vehicle's engine can overcome it has reached its top speed.\n(autos of course also have to overcome rolling resistance)\nSince drag opposes the vehicle's motion, the engine must make up for that\nby burning more fuel. Anyway, since the geometery of an auto is rather\ncomplex, the Drag,pressure coeffiecent,etc is either found experimentaly, or\nusing a numerical method.\n\nanyway for flow around a cylinder the drag coeff is:\n\n            Cd = d\/(q*2R)\n\n       where d is the drag force, q the flow velocity and R is the radius\nof the clyinder.\n   To get a rough (very rough) estimate, you can set R at 1\/2 the car's\nwidth, q at the car's speed and knowing the Cd, find the drag force that\nthe car would need to overcome. \n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"My wife has requested that I poll the Sages of Usenet to see what is\nknown about the use of chromium in weight-control diet suppliments.\nShe has seen multiple products advertising it and would like any kind\nreal information.\n\nMy first impulse was \"Yuck! a metal!\" but I have zero data on it.\n\nWhat do you know?\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nNo joke.  Here's another copy for you to save.  NPR, hmmm?  Did they\nmention the part about \"The fact of law enforcement access to the\nescrowed keys will not be concealed from the American public.\" ...?\n------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nA program called Mac-ette allows you to read Mac 3.5\"\nhigh-density disks on a DOS machine. You can get the program from\nsimtel-20. I'm not sure of the directory location.\n\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nA-hem. Two words: Russell Davis. Playing in the cavern at Albany (AA) last\nyear (375\/410\/385 down the alleys and to center), Davis went .285\/.355\/.483\nwith 22 homers. There aren't any small parks on the road in the Eastern\nLeague, either. He's 23(!) and his MLE was .258\/.308\/.416, 17 HR. I have no\nfielding statistics, but from seeing him a number of times last year I'd say\nthat he's not Brooks Robinson, but neither is he Howard Johnson. Unless they\nthink they can win the pennant *this year* (which seems possible) and need\nBoggs to do it, I think they're making the same sort of mistake with Davis\nthat Boston made with Boggs, leaving him in the minors for two or three\nyears after he'd shown that he was a good hitter.\n\n\nHrm? They still have him on the roster (16 AB through the first two weeks).\nThey've just never figured out what to do with him. I suspect that he hits\nenough (especially vs. lefties) to be a reasonable shortstop. One rumor\nrunning around during spring training was that they wanted to convert\nSilvestri to be a catcher(!) because \"his body type was wrong for a\nshortstop\".  You'd think that somebody in the same *division*, who plays\nBaltimore about a dozen times a year, would know better.\n\n Mike Jones | AIX High-End Development | mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"[some deletions]\n\nWell, we agree on the last part.:-)  One of the basic things you need to \nhave in a statistic to be able to predict a player's performance on it\nin the future is for there to be a correlation from year to year.  A \nplayer's batting average is correlated fairly well from year to year.\nA player's ability to walk or infielder's Defensive Average are correlated\nbetter.  That is to say, given their past performance in those statistics\nwe can have a pretty good handle on how they'll do next year.  Put in \nsome simple information about aging and you can do even better.  One of \nthe basic problems with something like \"clutch\" batting average - overall\nbatting average is that the correlation from year to year is almost zero. \nAdding to the sample size doesn't seem to help much.  As a counterexample to \nwhat you showed, consider the following two players from 1984-1987:\n\n               Non-Clutch                      Clutch\n               AB      H       BA              AB      H       BA\n \nMaldonado      1060    260     .245            254     78      .307\nLemon          1643    457     .278            256     57      .223\n\nIf you had had these two players in 1988, by your logic, in those \"clutch\"\nsituations, you'd bat Maldonado for Lemon in a blink of an eye.  Well, in \n1988, Maldonado hit .267 in \"non-clutch\" and .190 in \"clutch\", while Lemon\nhit .254 in \"non-clutch\" and .313 in \"clutch\".  Before you accuse me of \ncompletely cooking the data, there were 96 players who had 25+ \"clutch\"\nat bats every year from 1984-1988 (according to Elias).  As a simple\nmeasure of clutchness, let's just look at clutch BA-non-clutch BA. If you use \n'84-'87 to predict '88 for those 96 players, you'd find that 27 of the\n96 were below league average in that measure both in '84-87 and in '88,\n26 were above league average in both periods and the other 43 were \nabove in one and below in the other.  If you were just flipping coins,\nyou'd expect to get 24 above\/below in both and 48 that switched.  The\ndifference between the observed results and the coin flip experiment\nis not statisically significant.\n\nBTW, correlating players' _overall_ batting average from '84-'87 with\n'88 gives a correlation coefficient of 0.59, which is significant at\nsomething better than the 99.9% confidence level.  Correlating their\n(clutch-non-clutch BA) for the same period gives a correlation of \n0.088, significant at no level of any interest.\n\n\nActually, it's technically incorrect to say that we can't predict future\nclutch performance.  It's more correct to say that we can't predict\nfuture clutch performance with any skill.\n\nHarold","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I would appreciate any thoughts on what makes a planet habitable for Humans.\nI am making asumptions that life and a similar atmosphere evolve given a range\nof physical aspects of the planet.  The question is what physical aspects\nsimply disallow earth like conditions.\n\neg Temperature range of 280K to 315K (where temp is purely dependant on dist\n     from the sun and the suns temperature..)\n   Atmospheric presure ? - I know nothing of human tolerance\n   Planetary Mass ? - again gravity at surface is important, how much\n     can human bodies take day after day.  Also how does the mass effect\n     atmosphere.  I thinking of planets between .3 and 3 times mass of the\n     earth.  I suppose density should be important as well.\n\nClimate etc does not concern me, nor does axial tilt etc etc.  Just the above\nthree factors and how they relate to one another.\n\nJonathan\n--","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"[much munching and editing to get to the point]\n\n[Brett D. Sherron-Ferrell writes]\n\n[Mike Timbol responds]\n\nWhile I do not think he is lying, I also feel hesitant to take anybody \"on their\nword\" unless they can attribute a source for thier claims. With all the FUD \nand misinformations and misconceptions and outright lies flying around the \nadvocacy newsgroups, I do not trust any unsubstantiated rumor or claim \n- especially from any employees of IBM's OR MicroSoft, or anyone who seems to\nhave a vested interest.\n\nDivya\n\n-- \nDivya","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Hi there,\n\nI'm looking for tools that can make X programming easy.\nI would like to have a tool that will enable to create X motif\nGUI Interactivly. Currently I'm Working on a SGI with forms.\nA package that enables to create GUI with no coding at all\n(but the callbacks).\nAny help will be appreciated.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"OK, if I post where this comes from, will people stop sending email \nasking where I negotiated the deal? ;-)\n\nThe deal is from \"International Computer and Networking\" in CA.\n(I saw the ad int he back of MacWorld and MacUser)...\nphone number is 310-441-9181 and the deal may have changed since\na few weeks ago, since they change prices about every ten minutes ;-)\n\nAlas, this is a funny system, it SOUNDS like a good deal, but this is a \nCentris 650, 4MB (on the motherboard) 4MB SIMM, 80MB HD, NO ETHERNET\nand NO COPROCESSOR (well, actually it's a 68LC040 instead of a 68RC040,\n'just had to say that to keep people from saying \"there is no such thing\nas an '040 without a coprocessor, since the FPU is built into the chip\")\n\nOK, there ya have it, but if I were you, I would wait untill the cyclones\ncome out and buy a Quadra 800 ;-)\n\n-nate\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"--\n\nIn 1972, they lowered the engine compression so that it would run on\nregular gas (not to mention the addition of emission controls).  The '72 \nalso added pop-out rear quarter windows...\n\nAlot of parts are available for the GT from C & R Small Cars in CT and\nused from Bill Daley's Opel Parts in MA....\n\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nMatthew R. Singer                                    MIT Lincoln Laboratory\n(617) 981-3771                                       244 Wood Street\nsinger@ll.mit.edu                                    Lexington, MA 02173","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I am finding the volume of stuff on rec.sport.baseball\noverwhelming -- ca. 200 posts\/day.  An effect of this is\nthat a backlog builds up, and many posts get dumped from\nmy system.  I could probably fix that--but don't have the\ntime to read them all in any event.  My guess is that mine\nis a common problem.  I have some ideas that would help:\n\n1.  Each person generally post no more than one article\/day.\n2.  Limit the extent to which previous posts are reproduced\n    in posts.\n3.  Don't post mindless `woofs,' or `anti-woofs,' e.g. \"The\n    Jays are best!\"  or  \"The Jays suck.\"\n4.  Don't respond to mindless posts, e.g.  \"Jack Morris is\n    a better pitcher than Frank Viola because he's won a \n    World Series.\"  I know that you can use the `n' key to\n    get by these posts, but they bump interesting posts from\n    my disk.\n5.  use the goddamn shift key etc it makes your posts easier\n    to read ","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"From: \"Phil G. Fraering\" <pgf@srl03.cacs.usl.edu>\n  >> Finally: this isn't the Bronze Age, [..]\n  >> please try to remember that there are more human activities than\n  >> those practiced by the Warrior Caste, the Farming Caste, and the\n  >> Priesthood.\n\nF Baube responds;\n   Right, the Profiting Caste is blessed by God, and may\n    freely blare its presence in the evening twilight ..\n\n  Steinn Sez;\n  >The Priesthood has never quite forgiven\n  >the merchants (aka Profiting Caste [sic])\n  >for their rise to power, has it?\n\nIf we are looking for evidence of belessed-by-God-ness, I'd say the ability\nto blare lights all over the evening sky is about the best evidence you\ncould ever hope to get.  No wonder the preistly classes are upset :-)\n\n-Tommy Mac\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTom McWilliams 517-355-2178 wk   \\\\ As the radius of vision increases,\n18084tm@ibm.cl.msu.edu 336-9591 hm \\\\ the circumference of mystery grows.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Please....Apples to Apples.  Nt is a beta, and as such cannot be accepted as a\ncompetitor to Win3.1-it's not on the market.  Same for OS\/2 2.1, for a couple or\nweeks......\nBTW, cute sig. ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nI am not exactly known as a Flower Child Pacifist, but lets call\ncowpoop cowpoop.\n\n\"The peaceful attempt to serve the warrant\" consisted of the following\nactions, in order:\n\n1) BATF agents forcing their entry of the \"compound\" through second\nstory windows.\n\n2) BATF agents loosing some grenades (allegedly \"stun\" or \"flash\"\ngrenades) which promptly detonated.\n\n*After* which, according to the tapes I have seen, the B-D\nstarted shooting back.\n\nNow exactly how is it that someone breaking into private property\nand tossing grenades around is considered \"peaceful\" by\n*anyone*? You *think* on that.\n\n(Which is not to say I do not still hold my previous and\nentirely correct notions about what should be worn and\nwhat arms should be used in assaulting a building.)\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I'm having trouble with installing a second IDE drive on a Promise IDE caching\ncontroller. The first drive is a conner 3204 and works fine. The second drive\nis a conner 30174, it is currently unjumpered  to be the slave drive. The\nproblem is the slave drive is recognized but is reported back as having no\nfree space. Disabling cache has made no effect. What else should I check for?","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nHi. Can anyone please give me some ftp sites to get IPAS processes for\n3D Studio 2.0?\nThanks.\n+Warren =8^)\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Please help.\n\nI have an IBM-compatible notebook computer with an LCD VGA screen.  While I\nwas working with it this morning, the screen started to flicker a little,\nwhich I thought was odd since I do use a surge-protector for my computer and\nall peripherals.  It only did this for a second and then stopped.\n\nI left the room for several minutes and, when I returned, the screen was\ncompletely dim, not blank, but very very dim.  The contrast slider still\nworked so that I could adjust it to where I could *faintly* make out what\nwas on the screen but the brightness slider had absolutely *no* effect.\n\nI was plugged-in at the time (i.e., not using the battery) but I still\ntried switching the battery, changing the power-saver features, etc., etc.,\nall to no avail.\n\nHas anyone else experienced anything like this?  If this just means that I\nneed to replace the screen then I guess I'll have to but I thought that the\n\"death\" of my LCD screen would be a little less dramatic when it eventually\nhappened.  I didn't want to take it in to be repaired before I asked on the\nnet about this because I already know what they'll say: \"Yep, you gotta have\nthis replaced and it's gonna cost you $???.\"\n\nI've only had the computer for about 21 months.  Is that a reasonable life\ncycle for a LCD display?  Oh, I guess I ought to give specifics here: the\nbrand is Compudyne (Is this a reputable company?), it's a 386SX @ 20 MHz.\nI forget the model number exactly and I was too ticked off to write it down\nbefore coming in to work today.\n\nIf anyone can help me, PLEASE give me any advice you might have.  I'm not\nopposed to having it replaced, but I'd rather not if it's not absolutely\nnecessary.  If you wouldn't mind, please e-mail me at mike@mik.uky.edu\nbut if you'd rather post I'll be checking back here in a couple of days.\n\nBTW, if the answer to this question is already in a FAQ somewhere, feel\nfree to flame away but I would ask that you also include the location and\nname of the FAQ if you don't mind.\n\nThanks in advance for any help...","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"hausner@qucis.queensu.ca (Alejo Hausner) Pontificated: \nTo split a split hair, I believe that teflon (-CF4- monomer) was\n\"discovered\" by accident when someone I don't remember\nfound what he thought was a liquid (or gas?) had turned to a\nsolid...\n\nIt just happend to fit the bill for the above use...\n\nI'm crossposting to sci.materials so perhaps someone in the know\nmight elaborate...\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Hello,\n        I install one wav driver: pc-speaker, then install mpeg 2.0\n            phoenix.oulu.fi:\/pub\/incoming\/mpeg2_0\/mpegexe.zip --\/\n\nin Windows 3.1. but when I load one MPEG file and make sound type to\nWAV or MPEG,it always say error.\n        when I load one mpeg file which have wav file( ~.wav),then\nselect sound type to WAV,it is normal and no error,but I still can't\nhear sound. What should I do? fix the SoundDrv number in MFW.INI?\n\n        Thankx for any help...\n\n\n--\n Internet Address: u7911093@cc.nctu.edu.tw\n\n    English Name: Erik Wang\n    Chinese Name: Wang Jyh-Shyang","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nPlease, read my post carefully, I am saying that lift the arms emargo\nand let the MUSLIMS defend themselves. The point is these Europians \n\"civilized countries\" neither want to get intervene militarily themselves\nand nor they like to see the muslims of the world to help the oppressed.\n(Remember what happened almost one year ago when the so called UN discovered\nsome riffles in an Iranian jet in Bosnia!). The west is not indifferent\nin this matter they are siding with Serbs by keeping this embargo on only\nmuslim side (okay on-paper on both sides). \n\n-Khalid\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Hallo all...my girlfriend and I will be travelling across the US this summer,\nso we won't be using our tickets to return to Hawaii.  Please buy them.\n\nThe tickets are one-way, leaving Peoria, IL on May 17.  It connects to the main\nroute in Minneapolis\/St. Paul, and from there goes on to Honolulu...you'll be\nin Honolulu at 2:42 pm, and flying via Northwest airlines.\n\nAny offers will be considered, but please make sure these are serious offers.\nTickets to Hawaii aren't cheap, but we're aiming to make two people very happy\nthis summer.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Hi I'm new to imaging, and my advisor and I would like to \ndo some 3D reconstructions.\n\nWe take slides (biological), and image them on a 486.  Then\nthe software allows us to trace the outline of the objects \nwe want to save.  The outlines are stored as a TIFF file.\n\nWe would like to convert a group of these outlines into a \n3D image.  We are unsure as to where to begin.  Someone mentioned\nthat if we could convert the TIFF into a vector format then \nwe could view them in Autocad.\n\nAny help would be greatly appreciated.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nGeico has purchased radar guns in several states, I know they have done\nit here in CT.\n\nI have also heard horror stories about people that have been insured by Geico\nfor years and then had 1 accident and were immediately dropped.  And once\nyou've been dropped by any insruance company you become labled a high\nrisk, and end up forking out 3 or 4 times what you should be for insurance.\n\nMy suggestion, stay where you are, or shop around but STAY AWAY from Geico!","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nFor those with out FTP access, try NitV-BBS (see .sig).  I have the following:\n(all from nic.funet.fi, garbo.uwasa.fi, sony.com, and ftp.uni-erlangen.de)\n\nPLATFORM    EXECS   SOURCE   PATCH4SRC   XTRAS  BBS FILE AREA    FIDO FREQNAME\n\nDOS           x       x                    x      LOGIN         PGPDOS, PGPSDOS\nMAC           x       x                           NONIBM        PGPMAC, PGPSMAC\nAMIGA         x       ?                           NONIBM        PGPAMI\nARCHIMEDES    x       ?                           NONIBM        PGPARC\nOS\/2          x       ?                           WIN           PGPOS2\nNeXT                            x                 NONIBM        PGPNXT\nUNIX          x       x                           NONIBM        PGPUNX\n\n? = haven't looked in the archive to see if it has source or not (usually \nbecause I can't handle the format).  For FidoNet FREQ magic-names, the\nPGPS??? names are source code, others are either execs or execs + src \n[+ extras], or in the case of NeXT, just a patch (you still need one of\nthe full source code packages).\n\nNitV-BBS is FREE.  This is not an ad, it is a public service announcement.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Hi All,\n       This is the first time I've posted to the net, so I hope this is\ngoing to the right people.\n  I'm looking for software packages that run on an IBM PC clone that\nallows me to display Openlook and motif windows on the PC. \n  The idea is to use the PC as a cheap X windows terminal for use by\nprocess Engineers at work. \n\n  If anyone can E-Mail me any recommended packages\/horror stories\/etc\nI would be greatful.\n\n\t\tThanks in advance\n\n\t\t\tMark Wilkinson\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"In the course of discussing the Sabbath with some folks, \nI came across something that was completely new to me, \nand I thought I'd offer it for comment.\n\nTo keep this as brief as possible, let me state my \nobservation as a declarative statement, and then whoever \nwants to can comment on it.  Basically, what I think \nI've observed is that the phrase \"the Ten Commandments\", \nas used by Moses, is not a reference to Ex. 20:1-17, but \nrather a reference to ten distinct discourses from Ex. \n20:1 through Ex. 31:18.  That is, the phrase \"the Ten \nCommandments\" should more accurately be translated \"the \nTen Discourses\", of which the passage we call the \"Ten \nCommandments\" is really only the first.\n\nI'm not completely convinced that the above is true, but \nfor purposes of discussion, let me argue it as though I \nwas sure.\n\nArguments supporting the above idea:\n\n1)  There aren't really ten commandments in Ex. 20:1-17.  \nIn order to get 10 commandments, you have to get two of \nthem out of verses 3-6, and the verses themselves do not \nsupport such a division because they are all about not \nworshipping other gods.  That is, verse 3 commands to \nhave no other gods, and verse 5 commands to not worship \nthe idols mentioned in verse 4.  You can't violate \nverses 5-6 without violating verse 3, indicating that \nthe whole passage is one command, and leaving us with \nonly Nine \"Commandments\".  I could go on at length about \nthis, but for now I'll just stop with this summary.\n\n2)  There ARE ten speeches between Ex 20:1 (the beginning\nof the traditional \"Ten Commandments\") and Ex 31:18 \n(where God actually gives Moses the two tablets with the \nTen Commandments\/Discourses written on them).  I break \nthese ten down as follows: 20:1-17; 20:22-26; 21:1-23:33; \n25:1-30:10; 30:11-16; 30:17-21; 30:22-33; 30:34-38; \n31:1-11; and 31:12-18.  In most cases, each of these \npassages begins with some variation of the phrase, \"And \nthe LORD spoke to Moses, saying...\"  The exception is \nEx. 21:1, which begins \"Now these are the ordinances \nwhich you are to set before them...\"\n\n3)  The word translated \"commandments\" in the phrase \n\"the Ten Commandments\" isn't really the word for \n\"commandment\", its the word for a speech, or an \nutterance.  It's a word often used for longer discourses \nrather than individual statements; for instance, when \ncombined with the word 'yom' (day), this word is \ntranslated \"Chronicles\" in such phrases as \"now the rest \nof the acts of so-and-so, are they not written in the \nChronicles of x?...\"  The word for \"commandment\" is \nfreely used throughout the books of Moses, and perhaps \nit is significant that when Moses spoke of the Ten X's, \nhe appears to have avoided the word for commandment and \nchosen instead a word associated with discourses longer \nthan just a single command.\n\n4)  God tells Moses that He is going to give him the \nstone tablets \"with the law and the commandments\" (Ex \n24:12), yet He does not give Moses the tablets until He \nhas finished all ten discourses on Mount Sinai.  If the \nTen Commandments were only Ex. 20:1-17, it is not \nimmediately clear why God would wait several days and \nnine more discourses before giving these tablets to \nMoses.  On the other hand, if we have the Ten Discourses \nwritten on the tablets, then it makes perfect sense that \nGod would not give Moses the tablets until He had \nfinished delivering all Ten Discourses.\n\n5)  When Moses did get the tablets, he found that both \ntablets were written on both sides (Ex. 32:15).  If \nthese Ten \"Commandments\" were only the first 17 verses \nof Ex. 20, God would have had to have written in LARGE \nletters!  Not that He couldn't have, of course, but it \ndoes seem more likely to me that this is a reference to \ntwo tablets containing ten discourses written in normal-\nsized letters.\n\n6)  In II Cor. 3, Paul seems to specifically single out \nthe \"commandments written on stone\" as being the \n\"ministry of death\", \"that which is fading away,\" and \n\"the ministry of condemnation.\"  With the possible \nexception of the commandment about the Sabbath, it is \ndifficult to see why Paul would refer to the commands in \nEx. 20:1-17 as being temporary, \"fading away\"-type \ncommandments.  This is less of a problem if the stone \ntablets should happen to have included all of the \ncommandments from Ex 20 through Ex 31.\n\nArguments against this idea:\n\nThe main argument against this idea, aside from the fact \nthat it contradicts a long-standing tradition, is that \nin Dt 5:22, Moses says, after quoting the commands in \nEx. 20:1-17, \"These words the LORD spoke...and He added \nno more.  And He wrote them on two tablets of stone and \ngave them to me.\"  This appears to identify the words \njust quoted as being the only contents of the two stone \ntablets.\n\nThat was my first impression, anyway.  However, after \nsome thought, I noted that a great deal hinges on how \nyou understand the phrase \"These words.\"  If Moses meant \n\"These words *which I have just related to you* were \nspoken by God\" etc., then that would mean that only the \ntraditional \"Ten Commandments\" were on the stone \ntablets.  If, however, Moses was making a parenthetical \ncomment--\"These words *which I AM NOW telling you* were \nspoken by God\" etc.--then that's quite different.\n\nI did note that in the Dt 5 account, Moses tells of \nbeing given the stone tablets BEFORE telling of the \npeople asking Moses to represent them before God, \nwhereas in the Exodus account, the people asked this of \nMoses between the first and second discourses, several \ndays BEFORE God gave Moses the stone tablets.  This \nreinforces the idea that Moses' remarks in Dt 5:22ff \nwere intended as a parenthetical remark, rather than a \nstrictly chronological account of when God wrote what, \nand at what point He stopped adding to what was on the \ntablets.\n\nSummary:  all things considered, I find it somewhat more \nlikely that the nine commands in Ex 20 are really only \nthe first of what Moses regarded as the Ten Discourses \nof God.  I don't know if anybody has ever espoused this \nidea before; it's brand-new to me.  So, while I lean \ntowards accepting it, I would be very interested in \nhearing any comments and criticisms anyone may care to \noffer.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nNot boring is right!!! It is more likely to cause me to have a stroke!!\nI had to listen to game two on the Blackhawk station and I don't think I\ncould take another call of \"And JOSEPH makes a SPEcTACular saaaaaave\".\nNow I'm a Blues fan, but I don't want them to play \"like\" they played\nin game two. Sure the result was fine, but the Blues match up very well\nwith the Hawks so they really don't need to treat them like the 86 Flames.\nWe don't need a \"Monday Night Miracle\" to have a chance to beat Chicago.\nThe Blues can do it on talent. At least over the hawks.\n\nRich h.--- Go BLUES!!","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"(This is a cross post to rec.gardens and sci.med. Set the follow-up\n(line in the header, depending on what kind of advice you give, or\n(e-mail directly to me: ceci@lysator.liu.se.)\n\nI have a problem with wasps -- they seem to love me. Last summer I\ncouldn't spend more than ten to fifteen minutes at a time in my garden\nbefore one or several wasps would come for me. I am asking for advice\non how to repel wasps.\n\n   This year the wasps have built their nest under a stone next to one\nof my tiny ponds. The caretaker (poor fellow!) will have to take care\nof them, and that will give me a head start on them. Last year we\ncouldn't find any nest. Even after the caretaker has gassed the nest\nin my tiny garden of 30 square meter, other wasps will most likely vie\nfor the territory. Is there anything I can grow, rub on my skin or\nspread on the soil that will repel the black and yellow bastards?\nNever mind if it turns my skin purple or kills off all my beloved\nplants, I want to be able to spend time in my garden like everyone\nelse.\n\n   Would it help to remove the ponds and the bird bath? The wasps seem\nto come to drink at them, and I suppose that their prey will breed in\nthem. The black tits seem to be afraid of the wasps, because as soon\nas the wasp season starts, they stop coming to have their bath.\n\nEven when I am not trying to win back my patio from 15-20 wasps, they\nseem to love me. The advice I usually get when I ask what to do about\nwasps, is to stand still and not wave my arms. I've got some painful\nstings when trying to follow that advice. I have also tried to use\nhygienic products without perfumes, to no avail. They still love me,\nand come for me, even when I'm in the middle of a crowd. So far only\ntwo things seem to work: To kill it dead or to run into the house and\nclose all doors and windows. \n\nNB: I don't have a problem with bees or bumble-bees, just wasps.\n    Patronizing advice redirected to \/dev\/null.\n\n--Ceci","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I have 2 OMTI 3527 SCSI adapters for sale.  These make an ST-506 RLL drive\nlook like a SCSI disk drive.  Each adapter will support two RLL drives.  I\nhave used this model OMTI adapter with my Amiga A500 and a C-Ltd SCSI host\nadapter without problems. I'm selling these because I got them about the\nsame time I decided to sell instead of expand my Amiga so I have never even\nused them.  I can't guarantee they will work with every SCSI host adapter.\n\nThey are essentially new in box. I paid $150\/ea, make me an offer.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nI don't know who either is, but I think I see your problem.\n\nYou've got Cecil King and Don Douglass.  What you need is Don King\nand Cecil Adams.\n\n\nOr maybe Rodney King and Beanie & Cecil?\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"FOR SALE\n\nSony 8mm camcorder model PRO V9 - top-of-the-line a few years ago.\n\t- autofocus with macro capability\n\t- 6x zoom\n\t- 5 lux rating\n\t- 360,000-pixel CCD chip, the best made for a 8mm camcorder\n\t- AV input\/output jacks (all cables included)\n\t- RF convertor\/switcher for TV without AV input\n\t- AC adaptor\/charger\n\t- 1.5A battery\n\t- neck trap\n\t- user's manual\n\t- mint condition\n\nList price for this model was $1600, I paid $1330 mail-order a few years\nago.  Will sacrifice for $500 or best offer.  Reason for sale: upgrade\nto Hi8 model.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nOh my god, I made a typo AND used the word \"god\". Come burn my house\ndown, I must deserve it.\n\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nBut they also might have run out of fire-wood (maybe chopping up furnature?).\n\nThey also may not have been cooking, but eating MREs and other\ndelicacies stored for just such an occation...\n\nJust a thought.\n\nBrent \"Yes I am well aware that their electricity was cut, thanks to the\nHUNDREDS of E-mail messages and replies to my post\" Irvine\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Xircom Pocket Ethernet Adapter\nConnects any PC with a parallel port to the network\n\nMake offer\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Can anyone help with this?\n\nSystem: SPARC Classic, Solaris 2.1, gcc 2.3.3, X11R5\n\nWhen I try to build the XView libraries (xview3, patched with the patch from\nthe X11R5-Solaris kit), I get the following error:\n\nrm -f ndet_loop.o shared\/ndet_loop.o\ngcc -fpcc-struct-return -E   -O2  -I..\/..\/..\/.\/build\/include  -I\/usr\/X11R5\/include  -DSVR4 -DSYSV  -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DOS_HAS_LOCALE -DOS_HAS_MMAP   ndet_loop.c \\\ngcc -fpcc-struct-return -fPIC   -O2  -I..\/..\/..\/.\/build\/include  -I\/usr\/X11R5\/include  -DSVR4 -DSYSV  -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DOS_HAS_LOCALE -DOS_HAS_MMAP   -c x.c \\\n-o shared\/ndet_loop.o\nIn file included from ..\/..\/..\/.\/build\/include\/xview\/notify.h:29, from ..\/..\/..\/.\/build\/include\/xview_private\/ntfy.h:24, from x.c:18:\n\/usr\/include\/sys\/ucontext.h:25: parse error before `sigset_t'\n\/usr\/include\/sys\/ucontext.h:25: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union\n\/usr\/include\/sys\/ucontext.h:26: warning: data definition has no type or storage class\n\/usr\/include\/sys\/ucontext.h:29: parse error before `}'\n\/usr\/include\/sys\/ucontext.h:29: warning: data definition has no type or storage class\nIn file included from ..\/..\/..\/.\/build\/include\/xview_private\/ntfy.h:24, from x.c:18:\n.\/..\/..\/.\/build\/include\/xview\/notify.h:286: parse error before `*'\n.\/..\/..\/.\/build\/include\/xview\/notify.h:286: warning: data definition has no type or storage class\nIn file included from x.c:35:\n\/usr\/include\/sys\/user.h:226: `MAXSIG' undeclared, outside of functions\nndet_loop.c:71: `NSIG' undeclared, outside of functions\nndet_loop.c:85: variable `ndet_sigvec' has initializer but incomplete type\nndet_loop.c:88: parse error before `*'\nndet_loop.c:88: warning: data definition has no type or storage class\nndet_loop.c: In function `ndet_fig_sig_change':\nndet_loop.c:687: `NSIG' undeclared (first use this function)\nndet_loop.c:687: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once\nndet_loop.c:687: for each function it appears in.)\nndet_loop.c: In function `ndet_signal_catcher':\nndet_loop.c:751: parse error before `ucontext_t'\nndet_loop.c:764: `sigset_t' undeclared (first use this function)\nndet_loop.c:764: parse error before `newmask'\nndet_loop.c:766: `newmask' undeclared (first use this function)\nndet_loop.c:769: `oldmask' undeclared (first use this function)\nndet_loop.c:777: parse error before `)'\nndet_loop.c:795: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast\nndet_loop.c:798: parse error before `)'\nndet_loop.c: In function `ndet_send_delayed_sigs':\nndet_loop.c:825: `sigset_t' undeclared (first use this function)\nndet_loop.c:825: parse error before `newmask'\nndet_loop.c:837: `newmask' undeclared (first use this function)\nndet_loop.c:839: `oldmask' undeclared (first use this function)\nndet_loop.c:848: parse error before `)'\nndet_loop.c: At top level:\nndet_loop.c:1022: parse error before `*'\nndet_loop.c:85: storage size of `ndet_sigvec' isn't known\n*** Error code 1\nmake: Fatal error: Command failed for target `ndet_loop.o'\nrm -f ndet_loop.o shared\/ndet_loop.o\ngcc -fpcc-struct-return -E   -O2  -I..\/..\/..\/.\/build\/include  -I\/usr\/X11R5\/include  -DSVR4 -DSYSV  -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DOS_HAS_LOCALE -DOS_HAS_MMAP   ndet_loop.c \\\ngcc -fpcc-struct-return -fPIC   -O2  -I..\/..\/..\/.\/build\/include  -I\/usr\/X11R5\/include  -DSVR4 -DSYSV  -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DOS_HAS_LOCALE -DOS_HAS_MMAP   -c x.c \\\n-o shared\/ndet_loop.o\nIn file included from ..\/..\/..\/.\/build\/include\/xview\/notify.h:29, from ..\/..\/..\/.\/build\/include\/xview_private\/ntfy.h:24, from x.c:18:\n\/usr\/include\/sys\/ucontext.h:25: parse error before `sigset_t'\n\/usr\/include\/sys\/ucontext.h:25: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union\n\/usr\/include\/sys\/ucontext.h:26: warning: data definition has no type or storage class\n\/usr\/include\/sys\/ucontext.h:29: parse error before `}'\n\/usr\/include\/sys\/ucontext.h:29: warning: data definition has no type or storage class\nIn file included from ..\/..\/..\/.\/build\/include\/xview_private\/ntfy.h:24, from x.c:18:\n.\/..\/..\/.\/build\/include\/xview\/notify.h:286: parse error before `*'\n.\/..\/..\/.\/build\/include\/xview\/notify.h:286: warning: data definition has no type or storage class\nIn file included from x.c:35:\n\/usr\/include\/sys\/user.h:226: `MAXSIG' undeclared, outside of functions\nndet_loop.c:71: `NSIG' undeclared, outside of functions\nndet_loop.c:85: variable `ndet_sigvec' has initializer but incomplete type\nndet_loop.c:88: parse error before `*'\nndet_loop.c:88: warning: data definition has no type or storage class\nndet_loop.c: In function `ndet_fig_sig_change':\nndet_loop.c:687: `NSIG' undeclared (first use this function)\nndet_loop.c:687: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once\nndet_loop.c:687: for each function it appears in.)\nndet_loop.c: In function `ndet_signal_catcher':\nndet_loop.c:751: parse error before `ucontext_t'\nndet_loop.c:764: `sigset_t' undeclared (first use this function)\nndet_loop.c:764: parse error before `newmask'\nndet_loop.c:766: `newmask' undeclared (first use this function)\nndet_loop.c:769: `oldmask' undeclared (first use this function)\nndet_loop.c:777: parse error before `)'\nndet_loop.c:795: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast\nndet_loop.c:798: parse error before `)'\nndet_loop.c: In function `ndet_send_delayed_sigs':\nndet_loop.c:825: `sigset_t' undeclared (first use this function)\nndet_loop.c:825: parse error before `newmask'\nndet_loop.c:837: `newmask' undeclared (first use this function)\nndet_loop.c:839: `oldmask' undeclared (first use this function)\nndet_loop.c:848: parse error before `)'\nndet_loop.c: At top level:\nndet_loop.c:1022: parse error before `*'\nndet_loop.c:85: storage size of `ndet_sigvec' isn't known\n*** Error code 1\nmake: Fatal error: Command failed for target `ndet_loop.o'\n\nObviously, most of this is due to the problem encountered while including \n<sys\/ucontext.h> - I've tried several approaches, but can't get past this point.\nAny help would be greatly appreciated.\n\nMahalo nui o kakou,\n_______________________________________________________________________________\nHenry Stilmack                               )  \nComputing Systems Manager                    ) Perform random kindnesses \nUK\/Netherlands\/Canada Joint Astronomy Centre )   and senseless acts of beauty\n660 N. A'ohoku Place, Hilo, HI 96720         )   \nhps@jach.Hawaii.Edu       808-969-6530       )    ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Hello,\n   Subject says it all. I need a GIF to Targa converter, so that my\ndta15 could make a .FLI of them.\n      Krzysztof\n\n\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n                   --              --\n                   99              99\n\n\n\n\n\tSombody's data is wrong.  Since Mac OS, Finder, Systerm\nor whatever you want to call it doesn't appear in the first \nsurvey, I tend to doubt their results more.  Just because\nsombody wrote it doesn't mean its correct.\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\"The security of the system should depend only on the secrecy of\nthe keys and not on the secrecy of the algorithms\" -- Dorothy Denning","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Hi there,\n\nCould someone please suggest one of the better _shareware_\nreplacements for Win3.1's Program Manager and File Manager?\nAnd which ftp site are they located at?\n\nThanks in advance for e-mail response.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\tMy agent is Daniel Sui, and he's done quite a good job\n\tfor me.  You might check with him, as he's located in San\n\tFrancisco and specializes in bike insurance:\n\n\t\tDaniel Sui Insurance\n\t\t338 Balboa Street\n\t\tSan Francisco, CA 94118\n\t\t1-415-752-3157\n\n\t\t\t\t\tMichael\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nyeah, but most of those are Big Hulking Mainframes which have no monitors.\n\n\nfactoid : FAbricated or Corrupted Tidbit of Ordinary Information (Diluted)\n\nok\ndpm","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"[ ..see previous article on this debate for the rests.. ]\n\nI can see XV-3.00 agree with my view in cases you don't -- even I say\nmy personal opinion (as above), it doesn't mean that it is not most\nobvious thing.\nPlease, if you use my previous writings as contradicting argument,\nplease do read them -- you have not saw them at all; you just\nrefered to text from which I wrote 'something' -- and you make\nhard decisions from that, without reading what exactly I have written.\n\nIt is really hard read when one writes a reply line by line method\nand don't understand include previously written material with the new\nsentences to give them meaning. You seem to be one such.\n\nYou also start replying to my articles, even you don't understand what\nis going on; you ask me repeatedly to decsribe my views what were\nwrong with XV 2.21 even I posted them within the article you did reply\nto. Believe me, it is not nice to get flamed specially when I know\nthat you have not read my article carefully in the first place.\n\nXV-3.00 and JPEG FAQ and users I have written to agree me with the\nplaces you didn't; I'm sure you just didn't undertand what about I\nwrote. We can blame my writing skills (in English?) for that, or?\n\nBetter stop the discussion and check what new ideas XV-3.00 gives;\nI allready mailed one to Bradley...\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nBrad McCrimmon was the captain of the Flames when he was traded to Detroit\nfollowing the 1989-90 season. This was during the off-season though.\n\nThere's countless examples of captains being traded, I'm sure.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"My recently modified Quadra 700 with a socket for clock oscillators has now\ncompleted nearly 40 hours of error free operation at 32 mhz (with a 64 mhz\nclock oscillator). I have also tried a 55 mhz CMOS clock and that works as well.\nOn the more stupid side, I've discovered you can use a 40 mhz clock and make\nyour Q700 as slow as a Centris 610. However, a 25 mhz clock which would have\nyielded a 12.5 mhz Quadra 700 (Who'd want one?) didn't work at all.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"What I usually use...and this stuff is only good on glass....is either Acetone,\nor a little Benzene. The latter of the two is a bit dangerous (possibly a \ncarcinogen(sp?)) but it usualy gets the job done. I imagine you can you the two\nsolvents on most metals as well as glass, but keep the stuff away from plastic.\nBetter yet, you may just want to go to your local hardware store and ask them\nwhat they use. \n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThis is true. The statement didn't say anything about Christians in general.\nIt specifically said \"strict fundamentalist\" Christians. It reflects a\ncommon perception that people have about fundamentalists being strict\ndisciplinarians. Whether or not this perception is justified is another issue.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"The 800 number for Western Digital is 1-800-832-4778.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I want to have some info about Diamond Stealth Pro \/ 2 MB VRAM:\n\n  - what graphics modes does it support\n  - are HI-COLOR modes included to VESA BIOS (for use with DOS programs)\n  - any experiences yet (bugs & advantages)\n  - how fast is it under Windows and DOS\n  - price\n\nThanks...","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n<more tripe deleted>\n\nPhill, are you trying to convince everyone on the net that\nyou are in fact an abject moron for some reason? Repeating\nthe same rubbish over and over again may make something a \n\"fact\" in whatever backwater you are posting from, but it doesn't\nwash here, so save it.\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"What you call \"the Trinity and the Catholic church's definition\nof it\" is precisely the result of the first Christians getting\ntogether and trying to find an acceptable answer to your\nquestion \"what is a Christian?\". I can't see what you are\nobjecting to: someone is saying what historians of all beliefs\nwould agree on, and you are calling him a closed-minded bigot?\n\nYou really ought to say what you mean by \"belief in Jesus\nChrist\". It is not a wording that is sufficient to describe a\nChristian. Muslims believe in Jesus Christ although they\nbelieve he was a prophet and not the incarnated Son of God. But\nfollowers of Eastern religions might be quite happy to say that\nJesus was the incarnation of God - along with large numbers of\nother historical and mythical figures.\n\nSo perhaps you ought to rephrase your question and say\nprecisely what it is in the traditional definitions of what it\nis to be a Christian, as handed down by the Universal Church,\nyou object to but regard as unnecessary for being a Christian.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nAs a side note, in that same ad (MacWorld 6\/93), they are selling the 50MHz\nPowercache for the IIsi with FPU for $575. For those thinking of upgrading\nto the 040 33 MHz Turbo (an upgrade costs $600 direct from Daystar), this comes\nout to $1175, about $200 cheaper than what most mail-order companies charge.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nThat may change next month; at least I hope it will. A couple of hundred\njournalists have requested press passes for the test flights. Sustaining\nthat publicity however, will be a problem. \n\n  Allen\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nI don't know the answer to your direct question, but if the Mac Superdrive can  \nread MS-DOS disks (can it??) then you can transfer files between the NeXT and  \na Mac by using MS-DOS formatted disks since the NeXT *can* read\/write that  \nformat.  And if you're interested in transferring files, you can also do it  \nover the serial port using kermit.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"My roommate left me his Playboy collection which he no longer wants, so I'm\noffering them to the general public.  (THAT'S YOU!)\n\n    MAKE AN OFFER FOR THE *ENTIRE COLLECTION*\n    I will accept the best offer.\n    (Offer does *NOT* include cheapest method of shipping from Bethlehem, PA)\n\n1992:\n    February    (Supermodel Rachel Williams, World Tour, & POM Tanya Beyer)\n\n1991:\n    May         (Shannon & Tracy Tweed & POM Carrie Jean Yazel)\n    July        (Tall girls, Miss Bulgaria, & POM Wendy Kaye)\n    September   (Barbi twins & POM Samantha Dorman)\n    November    (La Toya Jackson & POM Tonja Marie Christensen)\n    December    (Dian Parkinson from \"The Price is Right\" & POM Wendy Hamilton)\n\n1990:\n    July        (Sharon Stone, Marilyn look-alike, & POM Jacqueline Sheen)\n    October     (Girls of the Big West, Gladiator Marisa Pare, & POM Brittany\n                 York)\n    November    (Teri Copley from \"We Got It Made\", Sex in Cinema, & POM\n                 Lorraine Olivia, stewardess)\n\n1989:\n    January     (35th Anniversary Issue - Collector's Edition)\n    February    (Year in Sex, Rio's Grand, & POM Simone Eden)\n    March       (La Toya Jackson & POM Laurie Wood)\n    August      (Women of Wall St., Diana Lee from \"License to Kill\", & POM\n                 Gianna Amore)\n    November    (Donna Mills, Sex in Cinema '89, & POM Renee Tenison)\n\n1988:\n    August      (Sunshine Girls & POM Helle Michaelsen)\n    October     (Girls of the Southwest Conference & POM Shannon Long)\n    November    (Women of Washington, Sex in Cinema '88, & POM Pia Reyes)\n    December    (Playmate Review, Sex Stars of '88, Lysette Anthony, & POM\n                 Kata Karkkainen)\n\n1987:\n    November    (Jessica Hahn, Sex in Cinema '87, & POM Pam Stein)\n\nAlso:  *** Special Edition:  \"Playboy Presents:  100 Beautiful Women\" ***\n-- ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Does anyone know the pin-outs for the 27C512 EPROM??  I have bought\nseveral of them, none of which has come with the pin-outs!  Any info would be\nappreciated....","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nSpecial creation has not been observed in action. Bill Rawlin's\nassertions that man was created in his present form do not count \nas creation. Put another way, there are an incredible amount of\nspecies of the planet. How many species have we DIRECTLY observed\nbeing created by a god or gods?\n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nYour starting to sound like a little child who wants ice cream. If you\nkick and scream enough you think people will believe you. Sorry proof\nby vigorous ascertion doesn't hold any water. I can insist that cats\nare dogs all day, it doesn't make it so. ","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n    Well, in my opinion the Canucks played a really strong game. I was\nespecially pleased by a very strong game from Linden - I think he\ncould be a key to success for them this year.  Defensively, they\nreally had a strong game.  Hardly heard Selanne's name all night.\nCraven also played one of his best games since coming over.  With a\nfew exceptions, they really didn't let the high-flying Jets do much\nhigh-flying.  I thought the Jets defence looked overmatched by the\nCanucks forwards - they will have to improve on that if they want to\nmake this a series.\n\n    In short, it was a great start!\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I used to hate it when people posted messages like this, but now that I\nam contemplating a purchase, I can see why they do.\n\nSo, has anyone heard of any upcoming (within the next 6 months)\nadvances in the Powerbook line?  Can we expect to see a PowerPC\nPowerBook at some point in the future (I assume an 040 would take too\nmuch power and generate too much heat for installation in a PowerBook)?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I'm trying to find some information on accelerator boards for the SE. Has\nanyone used any in the past, especially those from Extreme Systems, Novy or\nMacProducts? I'm looking for a board that will support extended video,\nespecially Radius's two-page monitor. Has anyone used Connectix Virtual in\nconjunction with their board? Any software snafus? Are there any stats\nanywhere on the speed difference between a board with an FPU and one\nwithout? Please send mail directly to me. Thanks.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"From article <strnlghtC5tr6D.n3n@netcom.com>, by strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight):\n\n\n\"Well Regulated\", at the time of its writing and in the context of the Second Amendment,\nmeans \"Properly trained and equipped.\"\n\nIt modern language it would read:\n\n\tA properly trained and equipped militia, being necessary to the security of\n\ta free state <note the word \"free\", it doesn't say \"police\"), the right of\n\tthe people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"} maintenance) and probably didn't know the answer at the start of the thread.\n\n\tUh, Doug, I don't know what school of thought your from, but chain \ndrive are MUCH more efficient than shafties.  End of story.  Period.\n\tBut I will give you that shafties are much less maintenance intensive...\n\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\tEthan","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Less than 1\/2 of mailorder price!\n\nI have three libraries, all on CD, which cost me over two thousand dollars\nmail order.  They are all genuine, high quality EPS vector graphics (NOT just\nsome scans with a silly EPS wrapper!)  They are:\n\n1. Totem Graphics color EPS library (about 1400 color EPS images).\n   This costs a thousand bucks mailorder.  I rate this clip art as\n   high quality (much better than Dynamic Graphics clip art, SOTMC clip art,\n   etc., in my opinion), but I rate both the 3G library and the C.A.R.\n   library as higher.  Totem's art is ALL color -- whereas most of the other's\n   are B&W.  It's the best all-color library out there, in my opinion.\n\n2. C.A.R. Graphics library (haven't counted how many images, but you can\n   purchase the library on 48 floppies, to give you an idea of the size).\n   This costs about 4 hundred bucks mailorder.  I rate this clip art as\n   very high quality, but it's only B&W.\n\n3. 3G Graphics library (very popular in all the Mac mags).  This costs\n   about 4 hundred bucks mailorder.  I rate this clip art as very high quality\n   (got some awards in one of the major Mac mags, forgot which).  Some of\n   the images are color, but most are B&W.\n\nFor what it's worth, all three of the CD's are saved in multiple file formats.\nThey are readable on Mac's and PC's.  Additionally, Totem's will mount native-\nNeXT also, although the NeXT could just as easily mount either the Mac or PC\nfilesystems.  I've personally tested the CD's on all three machines (I've owned\nall three machines, although I sold my NeXT a few months ago).\n\nAlso, in my opinion, the 3G and C.A.R. libraries are the best in the business\n(and I've seen lots).  Also, Totem's is, in my opinion, the best all-color\nlibrary around, although I like 3G's color art better.\n\nI want $850 for everything.  Can ship certified check C.O.D., as well as\nVISA\/MC charge.  If you pay by VISA\/MC, I'll ship pre-paid in the continental U.S.\nIf I ship C.O.D., buyer pays freight and C.O.D. fee.\n\nReason for selling: No longer have DTP business.\n\nPlease respond via email or telephone, as I rarely check these news groups.\n\nNevin","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Before you finalize your file in the FAQs (or after), you might want to \ncorrect the typo in the following:\n\n\nIt seems one or the other end of the rating scale should be identified with \n\"homosexual\".\n\nAs a personal note, I guess I differ with you on the question of work \nentering human life as a result of sin.  \n \nBefore the fall (Gen 2:15) \"And the LORD God took the man, and put him into \nthe garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.\" which I would call \"work\".  \nFor me, the difference introduced by sin is the painful aspects of work added \nat the fall (I take the cursing of the ground in vs.17-19 to apply to the \nwork for sustenance).  In a way, some view \"work\" as a blessing (Ecclesiastes \nis a fun book! - for melancholies).\n\nI hope I do not sound caustic, maybe you can enlighten me further.\n\nWell, this is certainly a delicate subject, and I guess you accomplished what \nyou state as your purpose \"It summarizes arguments for allowing Christian \nhomosexuality\", not for me the most noble goal, but you are writing a FAQ.\n\nI wonder if you might temporize the apparent \"sentence\" of the specific \nhomosexual you propose (arguably tenuously define).\n  Perhaps that would be true of \"celibacy from homosexual relations\", or \nrefrainng from their choice relationships, but that does not forbid \nheterosexual.  Could they not have\/enjoy heterosexual relations \"for what it \nwas worth\"?","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Is there a way to wax out a dull finish (minor scrathes)?  While\n\"passngering\" on my fiance's Bandit, my hip-pack rubbed against the tail\nand left a nasty dull finish and teeny scratches. Is there a way to get\nrid of these?  Buff them out?  Wax them out?\nhelp!","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I'mposting this for my emplyer who doesn't have net access, (but you can reply\nhere, and I'll get the message to him.\n\nMy boss is looking for two books on the group Mamas and Papas\n\nPapa John  by John Phillips\nCalifornia Dreaming - (he told me who wrote it, but I don't remember)\n\nHe'd prefer hardcover, but paperback will do.\n\nIf you have these and are willing to sell, e-mail me here, and I'll pass the me\nssage along.\n\nThank you","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nDayley's salary was guarenteed...with Wells the Jays were only on the\nhook for 25%(?) of it.\n\nGive Jackson a break...he lost about 10 pounds with that flu he had\nwhen he was traded.\n\n\nI would rather have Molitor than Winfield...Winfield was just hogging\nall the credit, and he was trying to soak the Jays for a 3 year\nguarenteed contract...\n\n\nThe Jays pitching can only get better...Molitor and Alomar haven't hit\nanything yet...and the Jays are still over .500...","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nThere is no doubt that Israeli authorities ordered the destruction of\nmosques in the vicinity of the Wailing Wall. That does not mean,\nhowever, that once can generalize from this to any other points.  The\nentire plaza, mosques and all, was cleared to make it possible for Jews\nto have a place to worship in the place that was holiest to many of\nthem, and which had been denied to them for millenia.\n\nOn the other hand, throughout the rest of Jerusalem and Israel, to the\nbest of my knowledge, Israeli authorities have scrupulously avoided\ndamage to any Islamic religious sites. This contrasts with the policies\nof previous regimes which destroyed Jewish synagogues out of hate and\nbigotry.\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nThe easiest way is a user fee for each clipper chip manufactured. This makes\nthe funding separate from government.\n\nIt also has the neat side property that if the chip doesn't catch on, the\nscheme breaks down, and the government is back to the drawing boards,\nassuming that they haven't prohibited alternatives in the meantime.\n\nIn fact, maybe this should be part of the \"official\" system. Before the\ngovernment is allowed to move this past the \"experimental\" stage, they\nshould have to demonstrate economic viability by mass adoption. The\ngovernment is very fond of demonstration projects proving feasibility in the\nuse of government funds for social programs--they should have to make a\nsimilar feasibility demonstration (on economic viability cum acceptance\nterms) for this baby as well. Let's put it to the only vote that counts--a\nmarketplace vote among those who have to pay for it.\n\nDavid\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I've had cold sores in the past.  But they have always been in the \ncorner of my mouth.  Recently,  I've had what appears to be\na cold sore, but on my lower lip in the middle (above the chin).\n\nCan cold sores appear anywhere around the mouth (or body)?\n\nIs there a medical term for cold sore?\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nAh, but when you fire at armed folks they have this nasty habit of\nfiring back. A simple terrorist could get hurt that way.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"[...details deleted...]\n\n\n\nOh, great.  We fans can subsidize the cost of speeding up the games\nthat we don't want to see sped up.  Terrific.\n\nOh.  I forgot.  Checking off that box to finance Presidential campaigns\ndoesn't cost us taxpayers anything.  \n\nDo you believe in the Tooth Fairy, too?\n\n\n\n--\tThe Beastmaster\n\n\n(sorry.  I hate to be so sarcastic on such a beautiful day.)\n\n\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nSorry Geoff,\n\nAgree solder mask is green, but in the old days we didn't have wave soldering\nmachines (which are another topic again).  I had a crew of a dozen ladies which\ncould stuff and hand solder a board like lightning!\n\nBoard under the mask was the original query.\n\nBTW cheap inport electronic devices (mainly from 3rd world countries) are done\nwith brown pheonolic boards.  Is seems the electronics industry has discovered\nthe cheap labor pools.  Workers are paid by the board to assemble circuits at\nhome.  They are very obviously hand soldered.  Quite a few tape recorders are\nbeing brought into Canada from Red China.  In China there is no warranty for\nthe equipment other than if you plug it in and it works it's yours.  One of my\nco-workers spent a year there and he said the failure rate out of the box was\nalmost 50%.\n\nAlso, the original method for making printed with conductive ink on a regular\nprinting press.  An old lithographer friend had a press for this.  After the\netching method was developed he used the press to print wood grain on doors.\n-- \n73, Tom\n================================================================================\nTom Wagner, Audio Visual Technician.  Malaspina College Nanaimo British Columbia\n(604)753-3245, Loc 2230  Fax:755-8742  Callsign:VE7GDA Weapon:.45 Kentucky Rifle\nSnail mail to:  Site Q4, C2.   RR#4, Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada, V9R 5X9  ","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nI don't think a reboost exercise is analogous to a shuttle landing\/launch\nin terms of stresses\/misalignments\/etc.  I would think of the reboost as\na gentile push, where a landing, then launch as two JOLTS which would\nput more mechanical stress on the instruments.  Additionally, there might\nbe a concern about landing loads to the shuttle in the event of a laden\nlanding.  Finally, probably some thought went into possible contamination \nproblems if the instruments came back to earth.\n\nOf course, the cost of two shuttle launches _is_ a good reason to avoid\nsomething that might be done in one shuttle launch.  Here's hoping\nCepi's gang gets the job done right the first time.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nI also heard the Romans had a large Solar festival on this day because this\nday, about 3 days after the Winter Solstice, was when you could notice a\nchange in the shadows and be sure that the Sun was indeed returning. In fact,\nI remember the latin phrase Natalis Solis Invicti (sp!) associated here.\n\nI can't say for certain when Saturnalia was, since I can't locate my Master\nHoliday List. I think it was 2 weeks or so however.\n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Again I assume this is not just flame bait by Roger, but actually a\ntruly held opinion.  \n\n\nThanks.  For speaking for all those who didn't feel it was important\nenough to say something themselves.  \n\nI wouldn't say that the letter clearly implies representation of the\nviews of a group that you belong to.  It represents a subset (that you\ndon't belong to) of a larger group (which you do, if only because this\nisn't a moderated group).\n\nLook, there are several ways to state an opposing viewpoint.  Three\nthat come to mind are as follows:\n\n1) Say it subtly.  Result: it may not be clear.\n2) Say it directly yet politely.  Result: probably it will spark some \n   interesting conversation.\n3) Say it directly and obnoxiously.  Result: validity goes right out\n   the window.\n\n\nYou realize that anything you say can, and most certainly will, be\nused against you.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Boy am I glad that I didn't start out with one of thos PS\/2 computers.\nI started the upgrade operation out by spending $235 for a AMD386DXL-40\nForex upgradable mother board from Midwest Micro. When it was time to\nupgrade I bought a Intel 486DX2-50 cpu for $350 and was finished.\nI still don't see why they ever made the 486\\50 cpu at all. Its to\nfast for both ISA and LB and VESA boards.. \n\nSome test results taken on my mb and 486DX2-50 cpu and some others...\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nX-TAL UPGRADES & SPECS - TURBO MODE TESTS - WITH FAN & HEATSINK KIT - ISA BUS\n\nX-TAL MHZ                    CPU MHZ   CPU SPEED MHZ    FPO MHZ   VIDEO CHR\/MS\n\n40.00 -386AND \/3=13.33MHZ     40.544     62.37            ---       6510.00\n40.00 -386AMD \/4=10.00MHZ     40.544     62.37            ---       6467.00 *\n\n50.000-486DX2-50 \/2=12.5MHZ   50.041     167.22          441.53     6105.00\n52.361-486DX2-50 \/2=13.1MHZ   52.703     176.03          464.81     6425.00 *\n54.058-486DX2-50 \/2=13.5MHZ   54.120     180.81          477.40     6642.00\n56.644-486DX2-50 \/3=9.37MHZ   56.220     189.46          500.25     4593.00\n66.666-486DX2-50 \/3=11.1MHZ   66.759     222.99          588.81     5401.00\n\nWITH ALL TESTS THE 486DX2-50 RAN ICE COLD! NOT EVEN UP TO ROOM TEMP DID IT GO!\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n50.000-486DX50   \/?           49.998     167.12          408.89     2463.00\n??.???-486DX2-66 \/?           84.234     224.00          372.00    10570.00\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nCPU\/ISA BUS        X-TAL MHZ      BUS SPEED\/MHZ       SPEEDSTAR 24X VIDEO CARD\n\nAMD386DXL-40       40.000         \/2 = 20.00 MHZ      INOPERATIVE\nAMD386DXL-40       40.000         \/3 = 13.33 MHZ      6510.00 CHR\/MS\nAMD386DXL-40       40.000         \/4 = 10.00 MHZ      6467.00 CHR\/MS\nAMD386DXL-40       40.000         \/5 =  8.00 MHZ      4020.00 CHR\/MS\nAMD386DXL-40       40.000         \/6 =  6.66 MHZ      NOT TESTED\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n486DX2-50          50.000         \/2 = 12.51 MHZ      6105.00 CHR\/MS\n486DX2-50          50.000         \/3 =  8.34 MHZ      NOT TESTED\n486DX2-50          50.000         \/4 =  6.25 MHZ      NOT TESTED\n486DX2-50          50.000         \/5 =  5.00 MHZ      NOT TESTED\n486DX2-50          50.000         \/6 =  4.16 MHZ      NOT TESTED\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n486DX2-50          56.64          \/2 = 14.16 MHZ      6826.00 CHR\/MS\n486DX2-50          56.64          \/3 =  9.44 MHZ      4593.00 CHR\/MS\n486DX2-50          56.64          \/4 =  7.08 MHZ      NOT TESTED\n486DX2-50          56.64          \/5 =  5.66 MHZ      NOT TESTED\n486DX2-50          56.64          \/6 =  4.72 MHZ      NOT TESTED\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n486DX2-50          66.66          \/2 = 16.67 MHZ      NOT TESTED\n486DX2-50          66.66          \/3 = 11.11 MHZ      5401.00 CHR\/MS\n486DX2-50          66.66          \/4 =  8.33 MHZ      NOT TESTED\n486DX2-50          66.66          \/5 =  6.67 MHZ      NOT TESTED\n486DX2-50          66.66          \/6 =  5.56 MHZ      NOT TESTED\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n486DX2-50          54.12          \/2 = 13.53 MHZ      6642.00 CHR\/MS\n486DX2-50          52.36          \/2 = 13.17 MHZ      6425.00 CHR\/MS\n ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I am writing a paper on religion and how it reflects \nand or affects modern music.  This brief questionaire is summary of\nthe questions I would like answered.  A response is requested and \ncan be mailed to me directly at: \n                   \n                    gtd259a@prism.gatech.edu \n          \n                   *PLEASE MAIL - DO NOT POST*\n\nThanks in advance,\nMatt Kressel\n\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n1.) How do you feel about groups like Diecide, Slayer, and Dio who\nfreely admit to practicing satanism and preach it in their songs?\n\n\n2.) How do you feel about groups like Petra, old Stryper, Whitecross,\nand Holy Soldier who promote and sing about Cristianity?\n\n\n3.) How do you feel about groups like Front 242, XTC, Revolting Cocks,\nMinor Threat, and Ministry who condone and sing about atheism?\n\n\n4.) How do you feel about bands like Shelter who preach the Hare\nKrishna religion and other minority(but not unheard of) religions?\n\n\n5.a) Do you feel there is any difference between promoting music that\nsupports Cristianity and music that condones satanism?\n\n  b) Why do you feel this way?\n\n\n6.) What types of music do you listen to?\n\n\n7.a) How often do you purchase music?\n\n  b) How often does that music contain lyrics with undertones in\nreligion?\n\n\n8.a) Do you feel that music one listens to affects the way one views\na particular religion? Religion in general?\n\n  b) How does it affect the way you view your religion? All religions?\n\n\n9.)  FEEL FREE TO ADD ANY COMMENTS HERE\n\n\n\n\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nI'm for the moment interested in this notion of the 'leap of faith'\nestablished by Kierkegaard. It clearly points out a possible solution\nto transcendental values. What I don't understand is that it also\nclearly shows the existentialism system where any leap to any\ntranscendental direction is equal. \n\nIn other words I might not jump off the cliff mentioned above,\nbut at the same time I will decide to what direction I will go.\nActually I will do it just now.\n\nCheers,\nKent","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Reposted by request ... these images are great, but they are also LARGE\n(1500x1500 pixels is a typical size).  Be warned.\n\n\t\t\tregards, tom lane\n\n-------------\nFrom: rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu (Roger Squires)\nNewsgroups: comp.archives\nSubject: [rec.arts.books] Vatican Library Exhibit at Library of Congress ONLINE\nDate: 14 Feb 1993 22:02:59 GMT\nX-Original-Newsgroups: rec.arts.books\nX-Original-Date: 1 Feb 1993 03:09:17 GMT\n\nArchive-name: auto\/rec.arts.books\/Vatican-Library-Exhibit-at-Library-of-Congress-ONLINE\n\n\nThis is from another newsgroup; looks quite interesting...\nrms\n\n\n                           ANNOUNCING\n                              a new\n                         ONLINE EXHIBIT\n                              from\n                     THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS\n\n\n\n     ROME REBORN: THE VATICAN LIBRARY & RENAISSANCE CULTURE\n\n                        an Exhibit at the\n                       Library of Congress\n                      Washington, DC  20540\n\n                 Available by anonymous FTP from\n                          seq1.loc.gov\n                         (140.147.3.12)\n\n                      \/pub\/vatican.exhibit\n\n\n\nROME REBORN:  THE VATICAN LIBRARY AND RENAISSANCE CULTURE\npresents some 200 of the Vatican Library's most precious\nmanuscripts, books, and maps--many of which played a key role in\nthe humanist recovery of the classical heritage of Greece and\nRome.  The exhibition presents the untold story of the Vatican\nLibrary as the intellectual driving force behind the emergence of\nRome as a political and scholarly superpower during the\nRenaissance.  The exhibit will be on display in the Jefferson\nBuilding of the Library of Congress from January 8, 1993 through\nApril 30, 1993.  The online exhibit will be available by\nanonymous FTP indefinitely.\n\n     The exhibit is divided into nine (9) sections:  The Vatican\nLibrary, Archaeology, Humanism, Mathematics, Music, Medicine &\nBiology, Nature Described, A Wider World I: How the Orient Came\nto Rome, and A Wider World II: How Rome Went to China.  Each\nsection consists of its own sub-directory within the \/exhibit\ndirectory and contains the exhibit text for that section and\nseparate JPEG image files for each object.  This online exhibit\nincludes not only objects from the Library of Congress exhibit,\nbut also the alternate objects (brought from Rome to be used if\nthere were a problem with one of the primary objects) and items\nomitted later in the planning process.\n\n     This exhibit will be of interest to Medieval and Renaissance\nscholars in particular, but also to art historians, historians of\nscience or medicine, early music scholars, students of the\nhumanist movement, students of printing and the printed word,\ntheologians, scholars of both Far and Near Eastern studies, and\nto librarians and information professionals.  Please get the\nREADME file for details on what files this exhibit contains.  If\nyou have questions about how to use FTP, speak to your local\ncomputer support person.  If you have questions or comments about\nthe CONTENT of the exhibit, please write to vatican@kell.loc.gov\nwhile if you have any questions or comments on the SYSTEM please\ncontact me.\n\n-- K.D. Ellis","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"(stuff deleted)\n\nThis sounds like what happened to my HD a month ago. My HD was stacked\nwith Stacker v.2.0 (I run Dos5) Suddenly everything hung up, and most of\nthe HD got corrupted (directories changed into unreadable files with\n'funny' names). In other words: it is probably just the doubledisk part of\nDos6 that is troublesome. \n\nI now use Stacker v 3.0, and so far I have had no trouble. \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n   Elisabeth Bull                       e_mail: eliza@swix.nvg.unit.no","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I have a PLP II laser printer make by GCC Technologies.  I have problem\nwith a dirty first page.  The top portion of the first is always smeared\nwith black toner across the page.  If I print more than one page at the \nsame time, the problem does not occur on other pages.  I cleaned the\nprinter but still does not help.  Can anyone offer any solutions?\nor know the phone # to GCC Technologies?\n\nThanks in advance\n\nCharles,","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n  Gerald, look at what happened to the Stars; they are off to Dallas.\n\n\n\nGerald, the Alberta election is slated fou 7 June, unless something RE?ALLY goes \nwrong this time!!  Pocklington could end up being THE embarassment of Klein\nif he goes ahead with his 'ultimatum'.\n\n\n\nGerald,  people still have an axe to grind with this guy.  I CANNOT see him staying for long.\n\n\nBut the people in Edmonton won't budge, trust me on this one.\n\n\nNorthlands won't budge ccording to one of the board members, Bruce Campbell.\n\n\nI haven't heard anything, BUT attendance at the Coliseum was the lowest this \nyear.  HINT!!HINT!!  Remeber what I said about a personal vendetta?\n\n\nGerald, don't blame Sather.  This battle between the peole and Pocklington\nstarted in 1986 and got WORST when Pocklington sold Gretzky.  \n\nThere were days when you can shake the hand of Pocklington when he was\nrespectalbe( I use to do so in 1982 - 1983 season) , but those days are GOE!!\n\n\nBTW, when following up, please delete name of posting writer.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n    The lethality in small part, but mostly what I found frightening \nwas the fact that they were wielded by people who believed that they \nate breakfast every morning with Jesus Christ. Now I wasn't there in \nGalilee back in the Roman occupation, so I don't know for certain that \nDavid Koresh was not Jesus Christ, but I strongly suspect that he was \nnot (even aside from the fact of never having seen them in a photograph \ntogether).\n\n\n    I admit I can't cite a specific, but if there isn't a law against \npurchasing grenade components and assembling them into functioning units \nthen perhaps we need one. All second ammendment arguments aside, I'm just \nnot sure that I like the idea of private citizens with hand grenades.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"You might want to get a disposible flash camera, shoot the roll of film,\nthen take it apart (they're snapped together). We used a bunch of them\nat my wedding, but instead of sending the whole camera in, I just took\nthe film out (it's a standard 35mm canister), and kept the batteries\n(they use one AA battery). Sorry, I didn't keep any of the flash electronics.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I have not seen articles in comp.graphics.research for a long time.\nDoes it\/he work anymore?\n\nI have seen many conference related postings in comp.graphics,\nand it is hard to believe that people have not tried to post them to\nc.g.research.\n\nIf somebody has not got his article to comp.graphics.research, then\nwrite to me or post here.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"----------------------   LightWave3D Mail-List   ----------------------\n\n-- WHAT IS LightWave? --\n\nLightWave3D is part of a suite of programs that come bundled with a\ndevice called the \"Toaster\" (from NewTek, Inc.) that operates on an\nAmiga platform.  The LightWave software (LightWave=LightWave3D and\nLightWave Modeler) allows and artist to create three dimensional\nphoto-realistic images for a variety of purposes.\n\n-- WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? --\n\nThis mailing list is for those interested in the LightWave software, how\nit operates and in ideas on how to obtain the best quality images\navailable to them.  The list is for those who own the Toaster and\nLightWave as well as those just interested in what can be done with the\npackage.  We hope to share information, tips, procedures and to bond as\na group.\n\n-- WHAT ARE THE RULES? --\n\nSince LightWave\/Modeler are just a part of the Newtek Video Toaster\nsoftware, I'm sure we will discuss a few items related to the operation\nof the Toaster.  However, we will strive to keep the subject revolving\nspecifically around the 3D software, related tools and products.\n\nYou do NOT have to own a Toaster to join this list!\n\n-- OK! HOW DO I JOIN? --\n\nTo become a member of the LightWave3D mailing list you must send a mail\nmessage to the address:\n\n        lightwave-request@bobsbox.rent.com\n\nIn the body of the message enter:\n\nsubscribe lightwave-l your.name@your.site.domain\n\nOr just ask to be signed up and I will sign you up to the list.  At this\npoint in time the process is manual but I hope to get an automated\nscript based system in place soon.  There shouldn't be too much of a\ndelay in joining.  Expect a \"welcome\" message within 5 days after you\nsend your request.  Then, expect the mail to start flowing in!\n\n-- HOW DO I POST TO THE LIST? --\n\nContributing to the list is simple.  Just mail your articles to the\nfollowing address:\n\n        lightwave@bobsbox.rent.com\n\nYour article will be processed by the system and distributed to all\nothers joined to the list.  Your articles will also be sent to you so\nyou know that your article has made it to the list.  However, those\naddresses that are either no good or no longer active will bounce back\nto you.  So, if you post an article and another members address is no\nlonger valid, your original article will be returned to you.  This\ndoesn't mean it hasn't been posted to the list.  In fact, just the\nopposite is true. It means that your article WAS posted and that it\ncouldn't be sent to one or more of the members of the list due to a bad\naddress.\n\nNOTE: I hope to have a fix for this behavior soon.\n\n-- HOW DO I QUIT THE LIST? --\n\nSimply mail a request to be removed from the list to the same address\nyou used to sign up:\n\n        lightwave-request@bobsbox.rent.com\n\nIn the body of the message enter:\n\nunsubscribe LightWave-l your.name@your.site.domain\n\nI will remove your name from the list of members.  PLEASE, if you join\nthe list and your account is going to be closed or if you will not be\nable to receive mail for a while, send a request to be removed from the\nlist!  If you are just going to lose access for a short while still send\na request for a suspension of your membership and I will suspend\nforwarding of the articles to you.\n\n\n-- WHAT ABOUT OLD ARTICLES? --\n\nI am currently archiving all the articles posted to the list at the\noriginating site (bobsbox).  However, I can not continue to do this due\nto lack of disk space.  What we need is a volunteer that will maintain a\ncompendium of articles sent to the list.  They can compress and store\nthem in archives on their system.  They can then periodically post an\nindex of the contents of the compendium and any other information that\nrelates.\n\nIf there are no volunteers then maybe someone can donate a large SCSI\nhard drive to me for archival purposes. <grin>\n\nI have setup a mail-based file server so that anyone interested in the\nlist can obtain information as well as the entire archive of past\narticles, the membership listing and other information pertaining to\nthe LightWave3D mailing list. For information on this service, please\nsend a mail message to:\n\n        fileserver@bobsbox.rent.com\n\nThe first command to the server must be \"HELP\" or \"USER name <passwd>\".\n\nUse HELP to request a current copy of the helpfile.\nUse USER name [passwd] to connect to the service.\nUse ?    to get a short listing of all available commands.\n\n\n\n-- NOW WHAT DO I DO? --\n\nWell, sit back and enjoy the pouring out of information.  If you have\nsomething to offer, please feel free to contribute that information to\nthe list.  Every little bit helps.  Questions are welcomed!  It makes\nsome of us feel important when we can answer them. <grin>\n\nIf you have any questions or comments regarding the list, please contact\nme at the address:\n\n        lightwave-admin@bobsbox.rent.com\n\nCheers,\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----\n\nMeeting of the UK Cryptoprivacy Association\n- -------------------------------------------\n\nSaturday, 8 May 1993, 1500\n\nTo be held at the offices of:\n\n  FOREST\n  4th floor\n  2 Grosvenor Gardens\n  London  SW1W 0DH\n\nThis is located at the corner of Hobart Place, a couple of\nblocks west of Victoria Station, and almost directly across from\nthe dark green cabbie shelter.\n\nIf you have trouble finding the place, please call the office on\n071-823-6550.  Or, call me (Russell Whitaker) on my pager,\n081-812-2661, and leave an informative message with the\ntelephone number where you can be reached; I will return the\ncall almost immediately.\n\nDiscussion will range from the usual general topics, such as the\nuse of secure public key cryptosystems to protect message data, to\nspecific topics, such as recent moves by the U.S. government\nto restrict choice in data privacy (reference recent discussion\non Usenet groups, e.g. sci.crypt and alt.security.pgp).\n\nAll are invited.  Particularly welcome are members of the\nnewly-formed UK CommUnity group ... the local\nEFF-in-spirit-if-not-in-name folks.\n\nThose who plan to attend should email me and let me know.\nPlease.\n\nAll attendees are requested to bring diskettes - preferably\nMS-DOS - with their PGP 2.+ public keys.  As is usual at these\ngatherings, several of us will bring our laptops, and will sign\npublic keys, subject to the usual caveats (reference the\ndocumentation for PGP 2.2, specifically files PGPDOC1.DOC and\nPGPDOC2.DOC).\n\nIf you do not already have a copy of PGP 2.2 (MS-DOS), and would\nlike to have a copy of this public domain program, please bring\na formatted, medium or high density 3.5 inch floppy PC diskette;\nyou will be provided a copy of the program.\n\nOf course, you might prefer to ftp a version of the program from\none of the various archive sites.  I suggest trying Demon\nInternet Systems, which carries the full range of PGP (Phil\nZimmerman's \"Pretty Good Privacy\") implementations: directory\n\/pub\/pgp at gate.demon.co.uk.\n\nMeetings are of indeterminate time.  Those who are interested\nare invited to join the rest of us at a pseudorandomly\ndetermined pub afterwards.\n\nPlease note:\n- ------------\nIn the past few months, interested people have emailed me,\nrequesting FAQs and special information mailings.  I regret\nthat, except in very unusual cases (e.g. working press), I\ncannot, in a timely manner, respond to these requests.  I will,\nhowever - and for the first time - do a writeup of this meeting,\nwhich I will post in various places.\n\nWhat I *am* willing to supply is general information on our\nactivities for the maintainers of existing FAQs, such as that\nfor alt.privacy.  FAQ maintainers can contact me at\nwhitaker@eternity.demon.co.uk\n\nRussell Earl Whitaker                   whitaker@eternity.demon.co.uk\nCommunications Editor                                 AMiX: RWhitaker\nEXTROPY: The Journal of Transhumanist Thought\nBoard member, Extropy Institute (ExI)\n================ PGP 2.2 public key available =======================\n\n-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----\nVersion: 2.2","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"my 14\" compacq vga monitor id dead due to the transformer's failure.\n\nif you have this part and would like to get rid of it, pls\nlet me know.\n\nthanks.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nBut it's STILL HAPPENING.  That's the entire point.  Only last month, John\nMajor hailed it as a great victory that he had personally secured a sale of\narms to Saudi Arabia.  The same month, we sold jet fighters to the same\nIndonesian government that's busy killing the East Timorese.\n\nIt's all very well to say \"Oops, we made a boo-boo, better clean up the\nmistake\", but the US and UK *keep* making the *same* mistake.  They do it so\noften that I can't believe it's not deliberate.  This suspicion is reinforced\nby the fact that the mistake is an extremely profitable one for a decrepit\neconomy reliant on arms sales.\n\n\nNo, I thought both were terrible.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
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{"text":"\nNo, that's the point of evolution, not the point of \"natural\nmorality\".   Unless, of course, as I have suggested several\ntimes already, \"natural morality\" is just a renaming.\n\n\nBut your \"yes?\" is actually stronger than this.    You are\nagreeing that \"every time an organism evolves cooperative \nbehaviour\" you are going to call it a \"natural morality.\"\n\n\nBee dance is a naturally developed piece of cooperative behaviour.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"}It is so simple.... I'm surprised that this subject gets\n}beat to death about once a month. A quick glance in a dictionary\n}would clear up 99% of the confusion and bandwidth in this\n}newsgroup.\n\nReading Stephen Jay Gould's essay \"Evolution as Fact and Theory\" wouldn't\nhurt, either.  It appears in _Hen's Teeth and Horse's Toes_.\n\n}            Then we could talk about really important things\n}like, why do men have nipples?\n\nSee Gould's \"Male Nipples and Clitoral Ripples\" in _Bully for Brontosaurus_.\n\nGee, this is easy.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nI didn't know God was a secular humanist...\n\nKent","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\tNot to start *another* shaft effect discussion, but the twist you\n\tfeel when revving sitting still is due to the larger fly-wheels that\n\tthe BMW R-bikes (maybe K's too, dunno) use. If you whack the throttle\n\tat stop lights, it'll really rock the bike over (to the right).\n\n\t<snip> \t<snip>\n\n\tPlease post if you come to any conclusion on this. I am thinking\n\tof putting a light on each cylinder guard on my R100S, and was\n\twondering whether I was going to have to switch lights off every\n\ttime I was under 5,000 RPM :-)\n\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nWhat, pray tell, are you putting together?  And what about costs?  And does it\nhave to be transparent as in totally transparent?  Or just transparent enough\nto allow light from the other side to shine through?\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThis is really uncalled for.\n\nYou cannot expect a European, growing up in a culture of \"rulers\" and \n\"subjects,\" to immediately grasp the concepts of individual independence\nand citizen sovereignity in the US.\n\nHe's less at fault than the countrymen we have here who also can't grasp it.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
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{"text":"\n\nThe patents don't apply in Canada.  I think the free trade agreement may\nprovide for recognition of new patents, but not old ones.\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nAutodesk Animator is a good tool. The one I like is Show Partner\/FX. If\nyou want it, I could give a copy to you. I did a lot of advertising with it -\nit lets you create both graphics (ANY resolution) and text frames, run it all\nas a \"film\", you can make choices and include music - I guess that's just\nwhat you need. If you're really interested, email me.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\tI think the Blue Book is the NADA handbook for used car prices, no?\n\tIs the Blue Book value given the retail or wholesale value???  The \n\tBlue Book value isn't set in stone, though.  Low milage, extra addons\n\tand stuff like that there can increase the resale price of the car, you\n\tmay want to head on over to the local library or borrow your friends\n\tBlue Book and read up on that sort of stuff.  I paid ~$400 under BB\n\t(retail) for my '87 Civic in 1990, and it was in perfect condition and\n\thad only ~14.5K miles on it.  The guy was desparate to sell, new kid on\n\tthe way, etc., but it was a good price.  Remeber, both you and the \n\tbuyer, if he has any sort of brains at all, are using the Blue Book, so\n\tyou should pick a fair price.  \n\n\n\t\t\t\tChintan Amin\n\t\t\t\tllama@uiuc.edu\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Hello all,\n\nI know that after market sunroofs may have left a bad taste in some of  \nyour mouths, but I am really interested in finding a \"good\" brand if one  \nexists.  Please let me know if you have heard of any makers with a good\nreputation (few failures, no leaks, that sort of thing) and whether or\nnot you have had first hand experience with that manufacturer.  Who is\ngenerally regarded in the industry as the \"best\" (price no object) maker  \nof power sunroofs?? \n\n--Steve\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nAs a child i can remember picking up a centipede and getting a rather painful \nsting, but it quickly subsided. Much less painful compared to a bee sting. \nCentipedes have a poison claw (one of the front feet) to stun their prey, but\nin my single experience it did not have a lot of \"bite\" to it.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\nI have a HP LaserJet III for sale.  It's been printed for\nless than 1500 pages according the self test report.  I\nam asking $1000 for it.  If interested, please e-mail.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nIsn't that just a variation of the \"Achilles & the turtle\" paradox, which\nstates that achilles could never possibly overtake a turtle?\n\n\t\t \tHow should one deal with a man who is convinced that\n\t\t \the is acting according to God's will, and who there-\n     Jokke\t\tfore believes that he is doing you a favour by\n\t\t \tstabbing you in the back?","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n: >In fact, the tradition has been passed down to their affiliate\n: >in Adirondack. In Gm 6 of last yr's finals, an 8 legged creature was\n: >hurled onto the frozen pond and landed right at the feet of ref\n: >Lance Roberts.\n\n: It may have been passed to Toronto, but I've even seen an octopus at\n: the Aud -- last year's Bruins-Sabres game.  I knew all about the\n: Detroit version, but seeing at the Aud was a bit puzzling.  :-)\n\nI don't think it's puzzling a bit. It's called \"unoriginality\".\n\n(no, i'm not bitter :)","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"...\n\nThanks for posting the exact wording which I had not seen\npreviously. The part I quote above seems to me to indicate\ndisapproval of capital punishment - it is to be used only when\nother means are not sufficient; I would say this is a stronger\nrestriction than saying that capital punishment is useable when\njustifiable. I would certainly say there are cases where a\ncrime justifies death (perhaps this is the Old Testament\ninterpretation), but my reverence for life would say that I\nwould oppose the actual infliction of the death penalty (a New\nTestament interpretation?). It is a matter for debate whether\nthe death penalty works to keep the peace in a way that\nnon-violent provisions do not. I don't believe it does, and I\nwould certainly observe that in the USA, where you have the\ndeath penalty, there is a far higher murder rate than here in\nthe UK, where we do not.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nNo.  The simple $25 style IDE controller does not use DMA.  The CPU performs\nthe data transfer with a string move instruction.  This requires that the\nCPU stop what it had been doing and transfer the data.  Only the smart drive\ncontrollers, be they IDE or SCSI, can transfer via DMA.  These controllers\ntend to cost the same wether they are IDE or SCSI.  To get the DMA benefits,\nIDE must sacrifice it's price advantage *on the controller*.\n\n\n\nFloppies aren't on the IDE bus, your arguement makes no sense, this isn't\nan IDE issue.  The floppys have their own processor on their controller\nboard which handles all of these commands.\n\nThe difference between IDE and SCSI is that all SCSI peripherials are\nintelligent.  They each have their own controller.  They depend on the\nCPU to do fewer things for them, i.e. IDE drives needing a processor\nto transfer their data.\n\n\n\n\nThe dettach\/callback mechanism alows the CPU to make requests of the \ndevices on the SCSI bus and then dettach and go about its business.\nLater, when the device is done, it issues a callback to say that the\ndata has arrived or the function has completed.  Most SCSI cards will\nalso DMA the data into memory without the interupting the CPU, therefore\nallowing it to continue working uninterupted.  IDE supports no such concept\nas dettach\/callback.  \n\nCan you see how this would be a win in any multitasking system?\n\n--David Willmore\n\n-- \n---------------------------------------------------------------------------\nwillmore@iastate.edu | \"Death before dishonor\" | \"Better dead than greek\" | \nDavid Willmore  | \"Ever noticed how much they look like orchids? Lovely!\" | ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Could anyone give me information on Umbilical hernias.\nThe patient is over weight and has a protruding hernia.\n\nSurgery may be risky due to the obesity.\nWhat other remedies could I try?\n\nThanx in advance","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nInterstellar grains are not at all close to blackbodies.  The \"large\"\ngrains have sizes of order 0.1 micron and absorb visible light with\nfair efficiency.  However, at temperatures below 100 K, 90% of the\nthermal emission will be beyond 22 microns, where radiating\nefficiency is poor.  (A small antenna cannot easily radiate at long\nwavelengths.)  Thus the grains must heat up more in order to radiate\nthe energy they have absorbed.\n\nMoreover, the IRAS observations had a maximum wavelength of 100\nmicrons.  Grains colder than 30 K will radiate primarily at longer\nwavelengths, and IRAS would be relatively insensitive to them.  In\nthe extreme limit, grains as cold as 5 K will be almost undetectable\nby any conceivable observation.\n\nWorse still, IRAS color temperatures are heavily contaminated by a\npopulation of \"small\" grains.  These grains have only perhaps 50\natoms, and when they are hit by a single photon they heat up to\ntemperatures of several hundred or 1000 K.  Of course they cool\nquickly and then stay cold for a while, but _when they are radiating_\nthe characteristic temperature is several hundred K.  Even a small\npopulation of these grains can dramatically raise the observed\n\"average\" temperature.\n\nA model for local infrared emission consistent with COBE data has\nthree components.  These represent scattered radiation from Zodiacal\ndust (color temperature 5500 K), thermal emission from Zodiacal dust\n(Tc = 280 K), and thermal emission from Galactic dust (Tc=25 K).  At\nthe ecliptic poles, the emissivities or dilution factors are\nrespectively 1.9E-13, 4E-8, and 2E-5.  The first two are roughly\ndoubled in the ecliptic plane.\n\nTo find the thermal equilibrium temperature, we add up the dilution\nfactor times the fourth power of temperature for all components, then\ntake the fourth root.  In the table below, starlight comes from\nAllen's number that stellar emission from the whole sky is equivalent\nto 460 zero mag stars with B-V color of 0.75.  No doubt careful work\ncould do much better.  (The person who suggested starlight had a\ndilution factor of E-4 must have been remembering wrong.  We would be\ncooked if that were the case.  In any event, the energy density of\nstarlight comes out about the same as that of the microwave\nbackground, and I believe that to be correct.)\n\n                         Dilution   Temp.   DT^4\nMicrowave background         1        2.7     53\nGalactic dust              2E-5      25        8\nZodiacal dust (emission)   6E-8     280      369\nZodiacal dust (scattering) 3E-13   5500      275\nStarlight                  1E-13   5500       92\n                                           -----\n                                             797\n\nThe fourth root of 797 is 5.3 K.  Outside the Solar system, the\nresult would be 3.5 K.  \n\nI find these results surprising, especially the importance of\nZodiacal dust, but I don't see any serious mistakes.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I saw an ad for this and it basically is an advanced print manager...\nit lets you monitor your printing more closely and comes with a bunch of\nTrue type fonts... anyone have this? Good? Bad? Worth it?\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I am setting up my DOS\/UNIX box on a 116M IDE and a 412M SCSI drive\nand was wondering about the use of the (MS-DOS 5.0) JOIN command.  I\nlike the way it sets things up since I won't have to stick with the C:\nD: & E: (crap) that DOS enforces.  I like how it would mimic mount\npoints of UNIX filesystems.  I have heard that there were problems\nwith using it, or at least under older versions of DOS.  Please tell!","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Intro to ACCESS.bus (RE: the ACCESS.bus Software Creator's \n\tContest Announcement)\n\nWHAT IS ACCESS.bus?\n\nACCESS.bus is a new open industry standard for computer \nperipheral connectivity.  ACCESS.bus is a serial protocol that \nuses simple, low-cost I2C technology to link multiple devices to \na single PC port.  Peripheral devices such as keyboards or \nkeypads, locators (Mice, Trackballs, Joysticks), printers, VR \ngloves, digitizers, sensors, actuators or data transmitters and \nothers can be easily daisy chained to the host PC.  Applications \nsuch as CAD\/CAM, Data Acquisition, Simulation, Virtual Reality, \nMultiple-Player\/Single PC Games, Education and many, many more \ncan now take advantage of ACCESS.bus, the technology that puts \nPlug and Play on every PC.\n\nThe ACCESS.bus offers advantages to end-users and developers of \nsystems and peripherals.  Multiple devices connect to the host \ncomputer with only one port.  Common communication methods for a \nnumber of device types lead to simplified hardware and software \ndevelopment.  As an open standard, ACCESS.bus enables cross-\nplatform use of the same device.\n\nACCESS.bus TECHNOLOGICAL DESCRIPTION:\n=====================================\n\nACCESS.bus technology is an open specification, enabling anyone \nto implement it on host systems or in peripheral devices without \nfee or royalty.\nACCESS.bus has a bus topology architecture.  That is, a single \nhost can accommodate up to 125 peripheral devices.  ACCESS.bus \ndata rate is 100 Kbits\/sec.\n\nACCESS.bus Physical Layer\n^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\nACCESS.bus is a serial bus architecture, based on I2C hardware \nprotocol, with one data line and one clock line.\nStandard low-cost I2C microcontrollers handle bit-level \nhandshaking, including automatic arbitration and clock \nsynchronization.  \n\nACCESS.bus Software Protocols\n^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\nThe ACCESS.bus communication protocol is composed of three \nlevels: I2C Protocol, Base Protocol, and Application Protocol.\n\nI2C PROTOCOL: This simple and efficient protocol defines \narbitration among contending masters without losing data.  I2C \nprovides for cooperative synchronization of bus partners with \ndifferent clock rates.  Bus transactions include addressing, \nframing of bits into bytes, and byte acknowledgment by the \nreceiver.  \n\nBASE PROTOCOL: Establishes the asymmetrical interconnect between \na host computer and multiple peripherals.  The host becomes the \nACCESS.bus manager.  The Base Protocol defines the format of an \nACCESS.bus message envelope, which is an I2C bus transaction with \nadditional semantics, including checksum.\nUnique features of the Base Protocol are auto-addressing and hot \nplugging.  Auto-addressing assigns devices with unique bus \naddresses, without the need for setting jumpers or switches.  Hot \nplugging is the ability to attach and detach devices while the \nsystem is running, without rebooting.\n\nAPPLICATION PROTOCOL: This is the highest level of the ACCESS.bus \nprotocol which defines message semantics specific to particular \ntypes of devices.  Each type requires a different Application \nProtocol.  Three broad device types have been identified: \nkeyboards, locators, and text devices.\n\nACCESS.bus support on the PC\n^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\nAll three levels of the ACCESS.bus protocol are supported on the \nPC.  An add-on card implements the physical layer and uses the \nbase protocol to communicate with physical ACCESS.bus devices.  \nAn ACCESS.bus Manager - TSR under DOS and a DLL under Windows 3.1 \n- controls the operation of the physical layer and interacts with \nthe ACCESS.bus device drivers.  Drivers are available for \nmultiple ACCESS.bus keyboards, locators and printers for DOS and \nWindows 3.1.  Also available are C language source code examples \nof the interface from applications to the device drivers.\n\n\nTo Contact ABIG (the ACCESS.bus Industry Group):","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"A friend was recently admitted to North Carolina Memorial Hospital\nbecause of suspected meningitis.  Serious business.  They wanted to do\na lumbar puncture, for which a CT scan is a prerequisite.\n\nI arrived in her hospital room about an hour after she had returned\nfrom the CT.   She was in tears.  Evidently the technicians in the CT\nlab had been very unpleasant to her.\n\nTo begin with, they put her on the apparatus that moves you into the\nmachine itself, and just pushed a button to slide her straight into the\nmachine, without any explanation.  Imagine this.  You worried you may\nhave a deadly disease, and next thing you know you're being put into\nthis big scary machine, without a word of explanation about what is\ngoing to happen to you.  I believe this is inexcusable.   She waved her\nhand as if to say what are you doing to me, and they responded with\nannoyance and anger.  Next they inserted, or tried to insert, an IV\ncatheter.  Apparently she has a lot of trouble with these and complained\nof the pain.  The technician just stopped and fixed her with a glare\nwithout any words of explanation.\n\nIs there anything I can do about these pigs ?\n\nI realize that these technicians do this sort of job day in and day\nout.  And that some patients can be very irritating and uncooperative.\nBut this is simply no excuse.  Their purpose for existing is to help\nsick people, and there is no excuse for this sort of behavior.\nFortunately my friend is fine.  But I imagine a large proportion of the\npeople who get CT scans are not fine at all.  They have cancer and that\nsort of thing.  They don't need this kind of shit.\n\nAlso, since I named the hospital involved, I should also point out that\nneither she nor I have any complaints about the competence or compassion\nof any of the other personnel at NCMH.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n      _The_ problem with Oort cloud sources is that absolutely\n      no plausible mechanism has been proposed. It would have\n      to involve new physics as far as I can tell. Closest to\n      \"conventional\" Oort sources is a model of B-field pinching\n      by comets, it's got too many holes in it to count, but at\n      least it was a good try...\n\n   So you have a plausible model for GRB's at astronomical distances?\n\nI don't have any plausible models for GRBs at any distances ;-)\n\n   Recent observations have just about ruled out the merging neutron star\n   hypothesis, which had a lot of problems, anyhow.  We have to look for\n   implausible models and what is fundamentally allowed independent of\n   models.\n\nHmm, the \"superbowl\" burst has been claimed in press releases\nto cast doubt on the merging NS hypothesis, from what I've read\n(and I haven't seen the papers, only the press) I'd say it is\nconsistent with some of the merging NS models\n\n   A paper on the possibility of GRB's in the Oort cloud just came\n   through the astrophysics abstract service.  To get a copy of this\n\n   Here is the abstract of that paper.\n\n ...\n      indicator to these events all possible sources which are\n      isotropically distributed should remain under consideration. This is\n      why the Oort cloud of comets is kept on the list,\n      although there is no known mechanism for generating \\GRBs\n      from cometary nuclei. Unlikely as it may seem, the possibility that \\GRBs\n      originate in the solar cometary cloud\n      cannot be excluded until it is disproved.\n\nThis does not propose a _mechanism_ for GRBs in the Oort (and, no,\nanti-matter annihilation does not fit the spectra at least as far\nas I understand annihilation spectra...). Big difference.\nThat's ignoring the question of how you fit a distribution\nto the Oort distribution when the Oort distribution is not well\nknown - in particular comet aphelia (which are not well known)\nare not a good measure of the Oort cloud distribution...\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"#|> #\n#|> #False dichotomy.  You claimed the killing were *not* religiously\n#|> #motivated, and I'm saying that's wrong.   I'm not saying that\n#|> #each and every killing is religiously motivate, as I spelled out\n#|> #in detail.\n#|> \n#|> Which killings do you say are religously motivated?\n#\n#For example, I would claim that the recent assassination of four\n#catholic construction workers who had no connection with the IRA\n#was probably religously motivated.\n#\n#|> At the time\n#|> of writing, I think that someone who claims the current violence is\n#|> motivated by religion is reaching.\n#\n#What would you call is when someone writes \"The killings in N.I \n#are not religously motivated?\"\n\nI'd say it was motivated by a primitive notion of revenge, and by\nmisguided patriotism.  Otherwise, I'd have to wonder how come mainland\ncatholics are not killed by mainland protestants, and southern\ncatholics are not killed by southern protestants, and so on.  Take away\nall plausible causes bar religion, and the violence diminishes markedly.\nGee, why _is_ that?\n\n#|> Now, it's possible to argue that \n#|> religion *in the past* is a major contributing factor to the violence in\n#|> the present, but I don't know of any evidence that this is so - and I'm\n#|> not enough of a historian to debate it. \n#\n#Given that the avowed aim of the IRA is to take Northern Ireland\n#into a country that has a particular church written into its \n#constitution, and which has restriction on civil rights dictated\n#by that Church, I fail to see why the word \"past\" is appropriate.\n\nThe country also has a different official language written in its\nconstitution (and vice versa :-) - maybe they're motivated by a love of \nIrish poetry.  Your argument is fallacious, jon.\n\nFor what it's worth, I agree with all that you say about Ireland above, \nand more.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"unsubscribe\n\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nWhat is MTEZ? A dealer? A repository? Any details?\n\n--\nPenio Penev  x7423 (212)327-7423 (w) Internet: penev@venezia.rockefeller.edu","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nBut of course, it is expected that umpires will show up players.\n\nDon't get me wrong, I understand the nature of the game, but I just \nbelieve that a little ego-ectomy for the umpires would make the game \nmuch better.\n\nTed\n\n--\n\"Social nags and body bags, make you dead, what a drag drag drag.\"\n-- Saigon Kick, body bags, The Lizard               ","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"# #From the Santa Rosa (Cal.) Press-Democrat, April 15, 1993, p. B2:\n# #\n# #    Male sex survey: Gay activity low\n# \n# Note this contradictory title-  Gay Activity Low.\n\nNot really.  The percentage of gays was low.  Headline writers aren't\nnoted for accuracy.\n\n# #    A new natonal study on male sexual behavior, the most thorough\n# #    examination of American men's sexual practices published since\n# #    the Kinsey report more than four decades ago, shows about 2\n# #    percent of the men surveyed had engaged in homosexual sex and\n# #    1 percent considered themselves exclusively homosexual.\n# #\n# #The article also contains numbers on the number of sexual partners.\n# #The median number of sexual partners for all men 20-39 was 7.3.\n# \n# #It's a shame that we don't have a breakdown for\n# #straight men vs. gay\/bi men -- that would show even more dramatically\n# #how much more promiscuous gay\/bi men are.\n# #-- \n# \n# Now let's take a quick look at what you are saying.\n# \n# The median of a distribution is that variate-value which divides the\n# distribution halfway, i.e. 1\/2 of the distribution (population) have\n# lower and half have higher variate-values.\n# \n# So for Males 20-39 the median=7.3, this means that half of these men\n# are higher than this and half are lower than this.  Now if the population\n# sample size is 3300, and 1% of them are gay, 33 males are gay.  If we\n\nActually, 2% were either exclusively homosexual, or bisexual.  You aren't\nreadiing very carefully.\n\n# say they are distributed equally then only 16.5 are greater than 7.3\n# sexual partners, of course, this means that 49.5% heterosexual men are\n# greater than 7.3.\n# \n# Interesting results.\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"to widgets:\napplication code\nto a\naction to do this, processing any events afterwards.\nsequence\nevents\nthe\n \nUse a workProc.  See XtAppAddWorkProc(3Xt).\n\nYou should split your drawing routnie up into small chunks (this\nis the hard part).  Then, in the callback that starts the drawing,\nyou call XtAppAddWorkProc() to call your workProc the first time. \nYour workProc should be a function that returns a boolean...\nTRUE when you are finished, and FALSE when you want to keep\nprocessing.  If you return FALSE, the workProc is automatically\nre-installed.  \n\nNote that this method is better that using a time-out loop, since\nevents get processed in a more precedence-oriented manner.  If you\nare using the same Ada bindings I am, however, you are hosed, and\nshould look into XtAppAddTimeout(3Xt).\n\n----------\nJoe Hildebrand\nhildjj@fuentez.com\nSoftware Engineer\nFuentez Systems Concepts\n(703)273-1447","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"And just where is the evidence for this? FBI sayso. The Texas Medical\nExaminer refuted 2 of their lies today.\n\n\n\nLet me put you in a building, pump in CS, knock the walls down around\nyou and see how fast you find an exit.\n\nI don't know why either, you're willing to swallow everything fed you.\nGood boy.\n\n\nOh a Clinton apologist, why didn't you *say* so.\n\n\nThe kgBATF was expecting a quick victory while the cameras rolled,\nhowever, they were the only ones with a script.\n\n\nHey, you're the apologist, *you* tell us.\n\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I have a couple applications for high speed data links\n1__replacement of ultrasonic signal coaxial cables with fiber optic cable\n2__applying fiber optic slip ring for 16 channel ultrasonics inspection\nsystem for CANDU reactor inspection\n3__remote data link from ultrasonic pipeline inspection device including\ntransfer of 16 channels via microwave or other higher speed transfer of\nultrasonic data from remote inspection head.\n\nI would be happy to share sources...other info as acquired.\nPlease mail me or post here.\n.....this is a long term upgrade over the next years _+","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nI asked some simple questions at different occations. I don't understand why\nsome people insulted me for those SIMPLE questions!\nAnyway, I didn't reply to them with the same language and I won't, because\n\n1. There is no need\n2. There is no benefit \n3. I don't have time  to reply to those garbages\n\nBy the way, do you want to know who am I? I am not a NATIONALIST Arab of 1967.\n I am not a COMONIST Arab of 70's. Are you sure that you want to hear\n my name? I am a MUSLIM FIGHTER. I am the same child who \nfight with your armed soldier with stone! I am the same guy who wants to \nbring JUSTICE to Palestine, I am the same fighter who wants to kicked Israel\nout of south Lebonon in the same way of the  1982. I am the son of KHOMEINI.\nI am honored to be a HEZBULLAH.... Don't you know me!!!? Just ask Rabin\nhe knows me! \n\nHamid\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"1993 World Championships in Germany:\n ====================================\n\n  Group A standings (Munich)            Group B standings (Dortmund)\n  --------------------------            ----------------------------\n\n             GP  W T L  GF-GA +\/-  P                  GP  W T L  GF-GA +\/-  P\n\n  Canada      5  5 0 0  31- 4 +27 10    Czech republic 5  4 1 0  17- 4 +13  9\n  Sweden      5  3 0 2  17-14  +3  6    Germany        5  4 0 1  20-12  +8  8\n  Russia      5  2 1 2  15-12  +3  5    USA            5  2 2 1  14-10  +4  6\n  Switzerland 5  2 0 3  11-14  -3  4    Finland        5  2 1 2   7- 7   0  5\n  ----------------------------------    -------------------------------------\n  Italy       4  1 1 2   7-19 -12  3    Norway         4  0 0 4   1-13 -12  0\n  Austria     4  0 0 4   3-21 -18  0    France         4  0 0 4   6-19 -13  0\n\n \n April 18:  Italy - Russia        2-2       Norway - Germany          0-6\n            Sweden - Austria      1-0       USA - Czech republic      1-1\n\n April 19:  Canada - Switzerland  2-0\n            Russia - Austria      4-2       Finland - France          2-0\n\n April 20:  Sweden - Canada       1-4       Czech republic - Germany  5-0\n            Switzerland - Italy   0-1       Finland - USA             1-1\n\n April 21:                                  Germany - France          5-3\n            Italy - Sweden        2-6       Czech republic - Norway   2-0\n\n April 22:  Switzerland - Russia  0-6       USA - France              6-1\n            Austria - Canada      0-11      Norway - Finland          0-2\n\n April 23:  Switzerland - Austria 5-1       Germany - Finland         3-1\n\n April 24:  Russia - Sweden       2-5       Czech republic - France   6-2\n            Canada - Italy       11-2       USA - Norway              3-1\n\n April 25:  Sweden - Switzerland  4-6       Finland- Czech republic   1-3\n            Russia - Canada       1-3       Germany - USA             6-3\n\n April 26:  Austria - Italy                 France - Norway\t\t20:00\n\n \n PLAYOFFS:\n =========\n\n April 27:\tQuarterfinals\n\t\tSweden - USA\t\t\t\t\t\t15:30\n\t\tRussia - Germany\t\t\t\t\t20:00\n\n April 28:\tQuarterfinals\n\t\tCanada - Finland\t\t\t\t\t15:30\n\t\tItaly\/Switzerland - Czech republic\t\t\t20:00\n\n April 29:\tRelegation\n\t\tA #5 - B #6\t\t\t\t\t\t15:30\n\t\tA #6 - B #5\t\t\t\t\t\t20:00\n\n April 30:\tSemifinals\n\t\tA #1\/B #4 - A #3\/B #2\t\t\t\t\t15:30\n\t\tA #4\/B #1 - A #2\/B #3\t\t\t\t\t20:00\n\n May 1:\t\tRelegation\t\t\t\t\t\t14:30\n\t\tBronze medal game \t\t\t\t\t19:00\n\n May 2:\t\tFINAL\t\t\t\t\t\t\t15:00\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"HELLO,\nI HAVE SOME PROBLEMS WITH MY DIAMOND STEALTH LOCAL BUS GRAPHIC CARD.\nWHEN I TRY TO START WINDOWS MY SYSTEM STOP AND DISPLAY:\n\"NO FREE FILES HANDLES,CANNOT LOAD COMMAND,SYSTEM HALTED\"\nIT'S PERHAPS A BIOS SETUP PROBLEM BUT I'M NOT USED TO MY AMI-BIOS SETUP\nIF SOMEBODY CAN EXPLAIN ME;HOW TO SETUP SHADOW VIDEO ROM, OTHERS \nSHADOW ROM ,AND ALSO HOW TO CONFIG THE TWO \"ADVENCED ... SETUP\"\nFOR A BEST UTILISATION OF MY GRAPHIC CARD.\nTHANKS FOR ANY ANSWER.\nCH.ROBERT\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Has anyone considered how to prosecute a city holding a \"no\nquestions asked\" buy-back for receiving stolen property?","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\tConsidering what you quoted and refered to was blank, I must say:\ntouche!\n\n\tOf course, you are correct, there is no atheistic mythology employed \non this board. Or, if there is, it is null and void.\n\n\n---\n\nPrivate note to Jennifer Fakult.\n\n        \"This post may contain one or more of the following:\n         sarcasm, cycnicism, irony, or humor. Please be aware \n         of this possibility and do not allow yourself to be \n         confused and\/or thrown for a loop. If in doubt, assume\n         all of the above.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"ITEM: Sony ES-CDPX229\nCONDITION: mint\nAGE: 1 year old\nPRICE: $300\n\n\nITEM: Sony CDP 770\nCONDITION: excellent\nAGE: 2.5 years old\nPRICE: $250\n\nEverything comes with the original packaging and manuals. These items have\nonly been played through audiophile system and are in excellent shape. If you\nare interested, or need any additional information, please e-mail\n(pc1o@andrew.cmu.edu) or call me at home.\n\nThanks,\nPete\n(412) 687-3735","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I'm a 2600 hacker from The Old Days.  Let's see how much trouble I can\nget into by telling you what you want to know...   ;-}","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Dale sez;\n\nI don't buy it.  If the things had no value at all, people wouldn't\nspend money to make them. So their lack of value is just your\nopinion, not an actual fact, which is neither a philisophical or\nlegal basis for prohibiting them.\n\nOn the other hand, I lived in OakBrook IL for a while, where zoning\nlaws prohibit billboards, as you mention above.  I think it was a\nfine law, despite it's contradictory basis.\n\nI would guess that the best legal and moral basis for protest would\nbe violation of private property.  \"I bought this house, out in\nthe boondocks, specifically to enjoy my hobby, amateur astronomy.  Now\nthis billboard has made that investment worthless, so I want the\nprice of the property, in damages.\"  It wouldn't take too many\nsuccesful cases like that to make bill-sats prohibitively expensive.\n\n-Tommy Mac\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTom McWilliams 517-355-2178 wk   \\ They communicated with the communists,\n18084tm@ibm.cl.msu.edu 336-9591 hm \\ and pacified the pacifists. -TimBuk3","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Now available: xvertext 5.0 \n---------------------------\n\nAnother day, another xvertext release...\n\nSummary                                  \n-------\nxvertext provides you with several functions to draw strings at any angle in   \nan X window (previous versions were limited to vertical text). \n\nWhat's new since 4.0?\n---------------------\no Existing bitmap fonts can be magnified to give reasonable fonts at large\n  sizes.\no Bounding boxes can be obtained.\no The GC's stipple bitmap is honoured.\no Font IDs can be cached when font names are unavailable.\no An Imakefile is present.\no The demos are better (including a ransom note like the \n  comp.sources.postscript one)\n\nWhere can I get it? \n-------------------\ncomp.sources.x (soon...)\nexport.lcs.mit.edu : contrib\/xvertext.5.0.shar.Z  (now)\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I need to make a power supply that can take input from a \ncigarette lighter in a car (12v dc) and drive 7.5 volts\nat up to 3.0 amps. I know enough to know that a simple\nvoltage divider with two resistors won't do it right. Can\nsuch a thing be made from Radio-Shack-able parts without\ntoo much difficulty?\n\njps\nbf\n\np.s. I've looked for premade things like this at radio shack but\nnone of it seems to go any higher than about 800mA.\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nYes, but that's because interstellar grains are very poor radiators, not\nremotely black bodies.  As a consequence they are a lot warmer than the\n\"ambient\".\n \n\nWhen I was in graduate school, a long time ago, we used 10,000 deg K with\na DILUTION FACTOR of 10+4 for representative values of the radiant energy\nbackground in the galaxy due to starlight.  ","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"-- \nKevin makes a good point here, and when that theists miss all-too-often.  That\nis, the belief in a diety is not necessarily coupled with agreement\/love of\nthat diety, so really they have yet another bit of convincing to do just beyond\nbelief.\nI guess the standard argumet goes something like: well, once you believe in\nGod, you know God is love, and you will choose to love him-- if it wasnt so\nwidely accepted and asserted it'd be laughable...\n\nbest regards,\n\n--Adam","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Subject: Re: Europe vs. Muslim Bosnians\nFrom: Satya Prabhakar, prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu\nDate: Wed, 12 May 1993 15:50:31 GMT\nBIGOTRY\"\nMuslims,\n\nThis kind of racialist generalization is utterly inappropriate.  SOME\nBosnian Muslims cooperated with the Nazis in World War 2.  Other Bosnian\nMuslims risked their lifes to hide Jews from the Nazis and Ustashe, and\nthose Jews who survived the war remember that.  In fact the Jewish leader\nin Sarajevo has remained there saying he wants to repay the debt to the\nBosnian Muslims that saved so many Jewish lives in WW2.\n\nSimilarly, SOME Serbs are \"doing\" to Muslims now. This is a group of\nserial-killers, rapists, and thieves who have control of the vast\nYugoslav army arsenal.  Many other Serbs oppose these atrocities.  As one\nof Serbian heritage who condemns emphatically the genocide being carried\nout against Muslims by both HVO and Mladic forces, I condemn your\ngeneralization about Bosnian Muslims and about Serbs.\n\n\n This is not a fresh case of\n\nEvery place on earth is the scene of a saga of mutual hatred and\ndestruction.  The holocaust was not a \"fresh case.\"  It was another\nchapter in a 900 year history of attacks on Jews in Europe.  That didn't\nmake it acceptable. and Balkan history does not make the genocide against\nBosnian Muslims acceptable.\n\nNot taking sides in this\n\nStanding by and allowing well-armed criminals to slaughter Bosnian Muslim\ncivilians, while enforcing an arms embargo against the Bosnian Muslims is\nnot only religious bigotry it is direct complicity in mass-murder.\n\n\n It could just\n\nYou tell us a region on earth that does have a long history of war.  NATO\nis the largest military \"police force\" in the world.  It was not\n\"helpless.\"  It could have stopped the carnage a year ago.  \n\n\n\nRegards,\n\nMike.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Pitchers are required to pitch (or feint or attempt a pick-off)\nwithin 20 seconds after receiving the ball, not 15.\n\nPitchers are required to pitch their warm-up throws within a\none minute time frame, beginning after each half inning ends,\nnot two minutes.\n\nAnd the reason why a reliever should be allowed warm-ups is\nsimple: Different mound, different catcher.\n\nRyan Robbins\nPenobscot Hall\nUniversity of Maine","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nSure. It has caused my wife to conclude that I am totally insane, not just\npartially:-}\n\nUsually I just lift the left hand off the wheel and wave thru the\nwindshield. Damn near the same motion as on the bike:-}\n\n                  tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nIt's public because it belongs to everybody.  It's vandalism because many people -- power companies -- do maliciously waste light.  If they can sell you\nor your city or your state an unshielded light that wastes 30 to 50 percent\nof its light, they make more _money_.  Never mind that your money is wasted.\nNever mind that taxpaper's money is wasted.  Never mind that the sky is ruined.\n\n\nBob Bunge","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nNot only have I not heard of the Western Business School, or the University\nof Western Ontario, I've never even wondered if there WAS a western\nOntario.  And judging by the quality of the posts coming from there, I'm\nstill not sure that the place exists.\n\nPerhaps I should be impressed, though, since it appears that grade school\nchildren in that area have access to the Internet.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":": \n: >You might -- except that gay men are MUCH more promiscuous than\n: >straight men -- which shows how damaged and screwed up gay men are.\n: \n: Okay Claytoon, let us say that hypothetically I agree with you that\n: gay men are much more promiscuous than straight men.  Why does\n: this indicate they are screwed up people?\n: \n: BTW - It occurs to me that since, in my experience, men are much more\n:       interested in sex than women and want to have sex much earlier\n:       in a relationship than women do, that homosexuals would have \n:       sex more often simply becuase their partner is of a like mind.\n:       i.e. heterosexual men would be more promiscuous if they could.\n\nIt's my observation that women are more likely to me more strongly\nindoctronated into now wanting sex that are men.\nAlso there are definite double standards for men and women who are\npromiscuous.\n\nCould there also be a factor of communication being more direct in \nhomosexual relationships and culture.\n\n--","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"   >Qualcomm had spare cycles in the DSPs for their new CDMA digital\n   >cellular phones. They wanted to put strong crypto into them since they\n   >had the capacity. The government decided to \"discourage\" them.\n\n   You're blowing smoke.  Qualcomm wants to sell to nice, lucrative overseas\n   markets like Japan and the EC.  The government told them \"don't do encryption\n   if you ever hope to export this technology\".  The reason that CDMA doesn't\n   have encryption is NOT because the G-men came a'knocking at Qualcomm's door.\n   It's because Qualcomm doesn't think that the US market for digital cellular\n   is big enough for them.  This is just the International Traffic in Arms\n   Regulations all over again.\n\nPerry has already stated on the net that Qualcomm wanted to sell overseas, and\nthe government told them they wouldn't be allowed to export,\nso he's only blowing the same smoke you are :-)\nSure, they probably could have made a US version, and a non-crypto\nexport version, and contracted with a Bulgarian or Japanese software house to\ndevelop an overseas crypto ROM, but that's getting pretty expensive.\n\n   No, Cylink sells their phones because they're willing to make different\n   stuff for domestic use vs. export.  Qualcomm isn't.  So Cylink makes\n   money--that's capitalism, comrade.\n\nWell, some people like capitalism, and others prefer free enterprise;\nthey're different!  Using the government to stifle your competition is capitalist.\n\n   >Someone out there WILL build a unit to do all this. Better yet,\n   >prehaps someone will produce a package that turns any 486 box with a\n   >sound card into a secure phone.\n   \"Someone\" this and \"someone\" that.  If you think it's so easy, why are\n   you whining on the net instead of getting your butt in gear and writing it?\n\nWriting good crypto code is something most good programmers can do;\nwriting good new crypto algorithms is a very specialized skill.\nDeveloping new voice coding algorithms is also pretty specialized,\nbut finding ways to implement the more complex ones when you don't\nhave enough horsepower is still fairly hairy stuff.\nOnce the 586\/Pentium becomes widespread, or the next generation of\nsound boards has DSPs on it, I suspect we'll see it happen.\nMaybe the vanilla 486+Soundblaster is enough.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Wing ding XV will take place in Louisville, Kentucky from 15 June-18 June.\nFor more info, or to register, contact GWWRA, P.O.Box 14350, Phoenix, AZ,\n85017, Tel. (602) 269-1403.\n\n-- ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"....\n\nThanks for posting the references. I do not normally read t.p.m.,\nand I posted my request for references because Jim's article\nwas cross-posted to soc.culture.jewish. Allegations of Jewish\ndisrespect for the objects and buildings of other religions are\none of antisemitic stereotypes that permeate western culture, and\nrumors of church and Host desacration probably caused more pogroms\nthan blood libel. The stereotypes that pervade our culture create\ncognitive illusions that reify those stereotypes. Therefore any\nclaim that appears to reify a stereotype should be treated by\ndecent people with utmost suspicion until and unless documented.\nIf such a claim is cross-posted to a news group in which it has\nnot been documented before, such as s.c.j, a reference should be\ngiven the first time it appears.  Now that the claim has been\ndocumented, I regard the whole episode as disgusting and\nshameful. Especially so because the official who failed to\nprovide proper temporary facilities for the evicted Jordanians\nwas probably Jewish, and as a Jew I know that he should have\nknown better.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"What sadist brought up this vein about Malarchuk?  When I saw what\nhappened I wanted to throw up, and at the same time I was devastated,\nsince I thought that Malarchuk wouldn't survive.  BTW, I believe he picked\nup an alcohol problem after (before?) the incident.\n\nTo radically change the subject, the Caps must be having nightmares about\nthe Isles in overtime in the playoffs.  Have they *ever* beaten the\nIslanders in a playoff OT game?  This is lunacy.  The Caps are such a\nsorry team in the playoffs, they consistently choke against opponents who\nthey should be beating.  Losing two OT games in a row is not coincidence,\nit's evidence of the choke factor.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n\nNCD just announced a new generation of PC-Xview. They\nchanged the name a little though and I can't remember\nexactly... PC-Xsomething.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"[...]\n\nThe President is not competent to plan or judge the planning of such a\nraid, nor does he need to be.  His job is to set basic policies and\nmanage the people under him.  If Clinton instructed Reno to preserve\nlives, and if she confirmed that the plan for the raid was a safe as\ncould be, then he did his job.  The President should not involve\nhimself in the minor details of these kinds of operations.  This sort\nof micromanagement only leads to disaster, as was demonstrated so well\nin Vietnam.\n\nBut the raid went bad:  Over 80 civilians have been killed in a\ncontrontation with U.S. authorities.\n\nNOW Clinton enters the picture in a big way.  Will Clinton start an\ninvestigation?  Or will he try to squash any attempt to investigate?\nIs he a responsible leader?  Or is he only interested in protecting\nthe image of his administration?\n\nWe'll all find out as this unfolds.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nI think its a great, but idealistic idea. A reseacher will first of all try \nto publish a worthy paper in a credible, professional magazine and not in a \ncommunity like USENET which is infamous for lots (not all) of junk \ninformation. The papers that will be \"published\" here will, in general, be \nof low quality. Also, it is improbable that any credit will be given to a \nresearcher who publish here - and sadly, that is nowadays a main reason for \npublishing.\n\nUSENET is great for informal discussions and free exchange of ideas - keep \nit like that. A new, specialist group is just not worth it.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nWell, this is *only* a guess:  If it goes by the \"true\" meaning of \"bit\nmap\", then it holds (x,y,c) where x pixel number in th ex-direction, y:\npixel-number in the y-dir, c: colour.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"To: All\n\nUniden Cordless Phone-Model XE 300.  Perfect working condition, but\nbase station is missing its antenna (the antenna mount is intact).\n$25, shipping included if prepaid.\nDO NOT REPLY TO: dino.fiabane@pics.com.  Your mail will bounce if\nit is sent to that address.  Instead, please reply only via\nprivate E-Mail to:  pics!dino.fiabane@twwells.com\n(Since my home BBS can only handle personal messages through\nE-Mail for the time being, any further replies from me to you\nwill also arrive via E-Mail instead of by way of a regular\nnewsgroup.)\nDino Fiabane, 150 Weston Drive, Cherry Hill, NJ  08003-2132\nphone (609) 424-3836\n\n\n * SLMR 2.1a * reply to: pics!dino.fiabane@twwells.com  via E-Mail\n                                                                     ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I heard they were posted somewhere, but I can not find them.\n\nPlease e-mail location.\n\nThanks,\n\t-Jody\n\n-- \nJody Hagins -- hagins@avlin8.us.dg.com\nData General Corporation, Linthicum, MD","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"......\n\nWhen did Koresh go on a rampage?\n\nWhat I saw was an unnecessary, unprovoked massive attack on Feb. 28th.\n\nProbably even an illegal action by ATF, certainly way out of proportion\nto anything reasonable.\n\nAnd yet, according to a pole taken yesterday, 95% of the people poled\nbelieve the government forces acted appropriately.  They don`t believe\nReno or the President have any guilt in ordering\/allowing the attack.\n\nI suppose they also believed things like:\n\"I would present a 5-year plan to balance the budget.\"\n\"We don`t need to lead with a tax increase....\"\n\"It starts with a middle-class tax cut...\"\n\"I`ll have the bills ready the day after I am inaugurated and we`ll\nhave a 100 day period....It will be the most productive in modern history.\"\n\"I will ask congress for a line item veto..\"\n\"I will lift the social security earnings test..\"\n\nI personally prefer to disbelieve the government until they prove themselves\nright, rather than the other way around.  That way I have a better than\n50% chance of being right about my first guess!\n\nRead the constitution sometime, it is supposed to protect the citizens\nand their rights.  I am sick of the abuse of government power.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Can some kind soul point me to references for the above formats?\n\nThanks,","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nUm, I sortof hesitate to bring this up, but owning even a single share\nentitles you to attend the annual shareholders meeting, and under most\ncorporate charters to introduce topics to be discussed.  While I *don't*\nsuggest the tactic used by some in Japan (go to the shareholders meeting,\nand disrupt the bejeezus out of everything), what about a well-worded\nresolution complaining about \"advocacy journalism\"?\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nAccording to MacWeek of 2-22-93:\n\nThe Cyclone will come in the same metal minitower case as the Quadra\n800, while the Tempest will share the low-slung case of the Centris\n610. Apple will offer a miniature video camera that can be mounted\nabove the user's monitor or moved about on the end of its cable to take\npictures of objects or documents. Taking advantage of the 32-bit\ndigital signal processor (DSP) built into the systems' logic boards,\nthe camera will be able to put an image measuring 360 by 288 pixels,\nwith 256 gray levels, on the screen.\n\nUsers will be able to install supplementary lenses that can record\ndetail as fine as the wire bonds on an integrated circuit. The camera\nis expected to cost between $150 and $250.\n\nThe systems will ship with all the software needed to put Apple's\nCasper voice-recognition technology to work; users apparently will have\nto purchase an operational high-fidelity microphone.\n\nThe two models will talk as well as listen. A new system facility\ncalled the Speech Manager will convert text strings sent by\napplications to phonemes and then pass them to a speech synthesizer.\n\nThe Cyclone will include a 40MHz '040, three NuBus slots and support\nfor up to 128MB of RAM. The Tempest will use a 25MHz LC040, lacking an\nFPU, and hold up to 68MB of RAM; it will have a single slot that will\nrequire a NuBus adapter and have room for only 7-inch NuBus cards.\nUsers will be able to update the Tempest's process but not the\nCyclone's.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I posted a message here some time ago asking why my mouse was so jumpy.  \nWell, I think I know why, and it doesn't have anything to do with the \nmouse.  It seems to be the video driver!  Here's why I think that:\n\nA few weeks ago I helped a guy install the driver for his S3 video card for \nwindows.  He had been using the normal Windows default VGA driver.  We don't \nhave the same kind of mouse (mine is microsoft serial and his is an off-\nbrand serial mouse).  His mouse worked fine until I installed the S3 (v1.4) \ndriver on his system, then his mouse became really jumpy too!\n\nIs there anything I can do?  I need high resolution since I display LOTS of \nstuff on my screen (AMI Pro, Pegasus Mail for Windows, WP Office 4.0 -- \nsorry, nondisclosure!, and alot more).  I noticed there are S3 drivers on \nftp.cica, but they are the same version that I already have and they are no \nhelp (I already tried!).\n\n---\nSean Eckton\nComputer Support Representative\nCollege of Fine Arts and Communications\n\nD-406 HFAC\nBrigham Young University\nProvo, UT  84602\n(801)378-3292","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Jasen Mabus\nRPI student\n\n\tI am looking for a hman brain in any CAD (.dxf,.cad,.iges,.cgm,etc.) or picture (.gif,.jpg,.ras,etc.) format for an animation demonstration. If any has or knows of a location please reply by e-mail to mabusj@rpi.edu.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nI imagine that was the MKS Toolkit, from Mortice Kern Systems.\nAnother third party add-in, and a good one too.\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I believe that that would be the same as a system error #64. Since there is no\nerror #64, then I would guess that it would be a -64 error. Which is a font\nmanager error of \"error during font declairation\".\n\nI would assume that the system that's on the floppy that you are trying start\nup on has a corrupted font in it, or something like that.\n\nMario Murphy","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nLet's put it this way, they have a charter and several executive orders\nto obey, among other things which *explicitly* prohibit sharing this\ninformation (unless things have changed withing the last little while).\nI suppose they could ignore it, if they choose.  But I doubt they would.\nFor an authoritative look at the NSA, get Bamford's \"The Puzzle Palace\".\nThat's all I can say.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
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{"text":"\n\n       Your ignorance is showing.  The BATF warrant was unsealed.\n\n       The entire operation was illegal from day ONE.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n[some big deletions]\n      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^                \n\nAnother in a string of idiotic generalizations.  Gad, I'm surprised I got \nthis far down in the post.  I guess some just like seeing their names up on \na CRT.  \n\nLike me :-)\n\n\n\nPhil Trodwell ","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
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{"text":"\nActually, I just think he's confused.  *I'm* going to hell because I'm Gay,\nnot becuase I don't believe in God.\n\n(I wonder if that means I can't come to Tammy & Deans picnic?)","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Try using Laser printer\/copier paper, it works quite\nwell and is cheaper than HPspecial paper.\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nAre you sure you want to include Chalcedon here?  I presume that you \nmean the description of Jesus as fully human and fully devine.  Almost \neveryone would consider the majority of Copts and Armenians, and the \nJacobites, as Christians, yet for 15 centuries it has been maintained \nthat they disagree with the Formula of Chalcedon.  Those that wouldn't \nconsider them Christians are most likely to object that these communities \ndon't require a personal commitment to Jesus, which is only tangentially \nrelated to the Formula of Chalcedon.  \n-- \nThanks, John Kolassa, kolassa@bio1.bst.rochester.edu","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"In light of the 100 letter over \"What was the LISA\" I thought I'd start a\nnew one.  What was the IIvx?  I hear it was some machine that predated the\nmain 040 line by about 6 mos, but used obsolete tech.  Rumor has it that\nseveral were sold....\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"hi folks\ni have a 386 25 mhz and now i'm buying a new 486\nfirst question) which is the best way to share hard disks\nand printer\np.s. my two pc will be far about 10 meter and i like to use\na parallel port or ethernet card and i like to share resource\nunder dos linux os2.1 and windows 3.1 & nt\n\n2) which 486? i think to buy 486 dx2 50mzh local bus\n  but i heard that some board coulnd't work properly \n  cause some incompatibilites is that true?\n\n  should a 486 dx 50 mhz a better solution\n\n  in case i buy local bus it's better to buy an accelerated\n  svga card with a normal local bus ide controller\n  or it is better to buy a local bus svga card non accelerated\n  with a normal ide controller?\n\n  3)  is there any accelerated local bus and possibly true color \n      svga card? at which price?   \n  4) i need to buy a cd which is the cheapest that is able to read\n     musical photo kodak and computer cd rom\n     i have heard about a sony and a mitsumi which is best?\n     and which controller work with its?\n\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nWhy should he have to?  This sort of thing should be included.  How about\nthe millions of people who don't have access to pd libraries over networks?\n\nJust because people can work around it, doesn't mean that something shouldn't\nbe done to remedy the situation.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nOn all 1.44Mb drives (both Mac and PC), the disk spins at a constant\nRPM.  On 800k Mac disk drives, the spin rate of the disk is varied so \nthat the tracks pass under the head at a constant speed; a slower rotation\nfor the outer tracks, and a faster rotation for the inner tracks.  A PC\nneeds special controller hardware to make this happen.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI have not seen this book, though I have had several people quote it in \nsupport of some tendentious assertions they were making, so I have become \ncurious about it.\n\nI don't want to malign this Hislop fellow, whoever he may be, as I have only \nheard the arguments at second hand, but both of the arguments seemed to turn \non false etymology that SEEMED to be derived from Hislop.\n\nI would be interested in knowing more about these things. \n\nThe first one claimed that the word \"church\" was derived from the Greek \n\"cyclos\", and that it was therefore related to the worship of \"Circe\".\n\nI don't know if Hislop is the source of this assertion, but it does seem to \nbe based on false etymology.\n\nThe second claimed an etymological relationship between \"Ishtar\" and \n\"Easter\", which seemed to be even more fanciful and far-fetched than some \nof the wilder notions of the British Israelites.\n\nRegarding the latter, as far as I have been able to find out, \"Easter\" is \nderived from the old English name for April - \"Eosturmonath\". The Venerable \nBede mentioned that this was associated with a goddess called \"Eostre\", but \napart from that reference I have not been able to find out anything more \nabout her. It also seems that the term \"Easter\" is only used by the English \nand those they evangelized. The Germans, for example, also use the term \n\"Ostern\", but Germany was evangelized by English missionaries.\n\nSo I would be interested in any evidence of \"Easter\" being used for Pascha \nby people who do not have any kind of connection with the ancient Anglo-\nSaxons and their offshoots. Such evidence might support the claims of those \nwho appear to derive the theory from Hislop.\n\n\n\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nOn the subject of the upcoming new Mustang:\n\n\n\nThe car magazines have printed a lot of information about the new Mustang\nand the consensus about what to believe in my \"car circle\" is that the \nsuspension pieces and tuning will be almost identical to the current\nCobra, but on a stiffer body structure which will improve its behavior.\nAfter the MN12 (Thunderbird) cost and weight debacle, Ford decided \nindependent rear suspension with rear wheel drive won't be tried again in \na volume car.  \n\nThe current 4.9l V-8 will soldier on for about two years.  A version of\nthe 32 valve modular V-8 in the Mark VIII could be offered then.  Ford\nis spending big money tooling up for 2.5l and 3.5l V-6 engines which will\npower most of their cars in the immediate future, and therefore probably\ndo not consider volume production of 300 hp V-8 engines a priority. \n\nUndisguised, the car looks OK, but not nearly as exciting as the new\nCamaro\/Firebird, IMO.  \n\nI suspect Ford will produce their car with higher quality than GM will \nachieve with the Camaro\/ Firebird.  The way GM loses money, the temptation\nto \"just get them out the door\" for the sake of positive cash flow will be \ngreat once demand really takes off.  ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"fuchs@tsar.princeton.edu (Ira H. Fuchs):\nthe  \nthe  \nusing  ","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nHmm, depends on how you define 'clean'. Jordan implemented the system\ndependent stuff in a way that you have basic implementations for,\ncall it, operating system types, then you go ahead and write a include\nfile for your specific machine or operating system using the basic\nimplementations. Since both Jordan and I haven't encountered a \nOS flavor yet, that is fully POSIX, we haven't gotten around to\nreally implement (and test) a top-level include file specifically\nfor just posix. The posix routines are used in the sun specific file\ntty_sun.i for example, but here we also use some bsd stuff. All in all\nit still is probably better to implement a include file for each and\nevery operating system than '#ifdef'ing in existing ones. The type\nof mess that can result from that can clearly be seen in the xterm\nsources. Even if quite a bit of code gets copied almost unchanged a \ncouple of times, this only uses up some disk space, since only the \n\"drivers\" actually included from the toplevel include file will be \ncompiled into emu.\n\nIt shouldn't be hard to come up with a tty_linux.i file that fully\nrelies on the posix stuff, but unfortunately I don't have a linux\nsystem available to me, so I can't do the port myself. I would suggest\nyou read the README in term\/sysdep and if you have any problems or\nquestions, contact me and we could try to sort this out. Unfortunately\nwe have to rely on help from the net on this part of emu, since we \njust don't have access to that many different systems.\n\nMichael\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Pat Myrto says if law enforcement wants keys, let them get a court order and\nthen ask him for them.\n\nMost use of probably cause wiretapping warrants isn't to decrypt historical\ntraffic, but for prospective listening once probably cause is established.\nPat's approach would tip off the crooks.\n\nDavid","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"                                                         ^^^^^^\n\nPardon my ignorance of foreign currency and exchange rates, but what is a  \nquid, how does it relate to the British Pound (or whatever it's called)  \nand what is that in American Dollars??? :-)\n\nThanks!","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Remove LEGEND from the V-8 list, it's a 6.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":": \n: \n: \"Numerical Recipes in C\"..Fortran..Pascal  has a nice section on\n: encryption and decryption based on the DES algorithm.  There is\n: also source code provided (I think some versions of this book are \n: distributed with the source code on disk; the source code can\n: also be ordered from the publisher).\n: \n: --Victor Iseli\n: victori@xetron.com\n\nYes I benchmarked the DES implementation in the Recipes in C\nbook.. it is about 1 1\/2 orders of magnitude SLOWER than the\nOuterbridge\/Karn\/Gillogly\/et al implementation.\n\nIt may be instructional, but it isn't very fast.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I do.\nYesterday.\n\nSeriously, Countess Ada of Lovelace gets the credit.  She first used\nit in the late 80s.  Her bike:  the spokeless wonder.\n\n\nJack Waters II\nDoD#1919","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nOwieneramus. Always has to stick his 'ASALA\/SDPA\/ARF' made nose into \nevery discussion with non-points and lies. Well, still anxiously\nawaiting...\n\n\nSource: Cemal Kutay, \"Ottoman Empire,\" vol. II., p. 188.    \n\n\"The atrocities and massacres which have been committed for a long time\n against the Muslim population within the Armenian Republic have been \n confirmed with very accurate information, and the observations made by\n Rawlinson, the British representative in Erzurum, have confirmed that\n these atrocities are being committed by the Armenians. The United States\n delegation of General Harbord has seen the thousands of refugees who came \n to take refuge with Kazim Karabekir's soldiers, hungry and miserable, \n their children and wives, their properties destroyed, and the delegation\n was a witness to the cruelties. Many Muslim villages have been destroyed\n by the soldiers of Armenian troops armed with cannons and machine guns\n before the eyes of Karabekir's troops and the people. When it was hoped\n that this operation would end, unfortunately since the beginning of \n February the cruelties inflicted on the Muslim population of the region\n of Shuraghel, Akpazar, Zarshad, and Childir have increased. According\n to documented information, 28 Muslim villages have been destroyed in the\n aforementioned region, more than 2,000 people have been slaughtered,\n many possessions and livestock have been seized, young Muslim women\n have been taken to Kars and Gumru, thousands of women and children who\n were able to flee their villages were beaten, raped and massacred in the\n mountains, and this aggression against the properties, lives, chastity \n and honour of the Muslims continued. It was the responsibility of the\n Armenian Government that the cruelties and massacres be stopped in order \n to alleviate the tensions of Muslim public opinion due to the atrocities \n committed by the Armenians, that the possessions taken from the Muslims\n be returned and that indemnities be paid, that the properties, lives,\n and honour of the Muslims be protected.\"\n\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n \n-Allergy medicine, huh?  Is this just to get rid of the resultant migraine or\nwhatever, or does it actually suppress allergic reactions? (i.e. like an\nantihistamine does?)  As far as doctors over here are concerned, if you slip up\nand eat something you're allergic to (even if they won't test you to tell you\nwhat to avoid) then tough; if a _cheap_ medicine will alleviate your symptoms,\nthen fine, otherwise you just suffer.  One doctor did prescribe me imigran (costs\nthe NHS #48 for 6 tablets) after having to rehydrate me because I'd been throwing\nup for four solid days and couldn't even drink water - but I got taken off it\nagain when I moved and had to change doctors.  Reasoning: they did not know what\nthe side-effects were because it was new.  OK, fine - but it has passed the\nsafety tests to get on the prescription list, and anyway I was prepared to take\nthe risk to have quality of life now.  The only alternatives I have is to get it\nprescribed privately, which I cannot afford, or to pay a private allergy\nspecialist to test me and tell me what to avoid.  I am fairly certain I am\nallergic to more than one chemical additive, as a lot of things I can't eat have\nnothing in common except things I know are safe, so testing myself isn't really\nan option; there are too many permutations.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nIs the sending of encrypted traffic without government permission legal in\nNew Zealand?\n\nDavid","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nWell I agree with you in the sense that they have no \"moral\" right to inflict\nthese rules, but there is one thing I might add: at the very least, almost\neverybody wants to avoid pain, and if that means sacrificing some stuff for a\nherd morality, then so be it.  \n\n\nRight, and since they grew up and learned around us, they have some idea of our\nright and wrong, which I think must, in part, be incorporated.  Very rarely do\nyou see criminal behaviour for \"philosophical reasons\"\n\n\n\n(stuff deleted)\n\n-- \n\nbest regards,\n\n--Adam","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nIt seems faith is the only tool available for emotional purposes\ndue to the tragedy. As such it maybe fills a need, however I'm\ngetting tired to see children dying in pain in Sudan due to lack\nof food, and assuming that God takes these sufferers to heaven\nafter a painful death.\n\nCheers,\nKent","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"-> >-> \n-> >-> For those who still doubt what is going on, this is\n-> >-> from the still uncensored AP wire:\n-> >-> \n-> >-> Two journalists from Houston arrested at gun-point and\n-> >-> cuffed and jailed for taking pictures of the compound today.\n-> >-> Later released on bail, but cameras and film were confiscated.\n-> >-> \n-> >-> jh\n-> >\n-> >\tYou could work for CNN.  Take a few lines from a story and\n-> >imply something with it but don't say what you really mean.  \n-> >\n-> >\tThe police always close off the area around a major crime\n-> >scene to keep evidence from being disturbed\n-> \n->     By taking pictures?\n\n\tThey leave foot prints, they may drop some trash on the\nground, and they may pick up something that looks interesting.\n\n-> \n-> >, and it is a misdemeanor\n-> >to enter the closed off area.  One of the photographers also quickly\n-> >spun around with a long lens camera while the officer was approaching,\n-> >a good way to get shot.  \n-> \n->     Well, that (hopefully) depends on what country one is in.\n\n\tIt has nothing to do with the country.  You are coming toward\nsomeone in an area where there has been violent confrontations, and\none guy spins around quickly with an object that looks like a gun.\nPolice are not trained to stand there and let someone gun them down.\n\n-> There was also no indication in that story\n-> >that they wouldn't get their cameras and film back after getting out\n-> >of jail.\n-> \n->     Once goverment agents have had an opportunity to check \n->     the film out.\n\n\tYou're making statements that are not supported by facts.\nDon't let paranoia get the best of you.  Wait to see if the reporters\ndon't get their film back or they get it back developed before\nscreaming conspiracy.\n\n-> \n->     I think it was Barry Goldwater who once said \"the goverment\n->     that is big enough to give you everything is big enough to\n->     take everything from you.\"  You life and\/or freedom including.\n->     Of course, that could not happen to you, could it?\n\n\tOur government is not big enough to give you everything,\ndespite the efforts of people like Bill Clinton.  Taking a statement\nlike that and thinking `everything done in the name of law enforcement\nis wrong' is simple minded and ignorant of history.  A government is a\nnecessary evil, and we must decide what it should be allowed to do\nbased on facts, history, and not by baseless claims.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nThere were a great many Germans, Poles and others who did not\nsympathize with the victims of the Holocaust but instead participated\nwith enthusiasm in the killing.\n\nThe Holocaust wasn't a massacre, it wasn't even killing for sport; it\nwas an entire Industry of Death.  German engineers, architects\ntechnicians and bureaucrats proudly put their best efforts into as\nefficient and methodical a Killing Machine as they could devise and\noperate.  And it certainly was something extraordinary.\n\nPlease don't bleat to us about how the Nazis suffered from the\nHolocaust.\n\n\n  All Jews suffered during WWII [...]\nwas \"correct\" him with:\n  All humans suffered [...]\n\nSo what WERE you implying?\n\n\nAre we supposed to thank you for your generosity?  \nOr should we be pleased with your minimal common sense?\n\n\nWhy is it that when someone writes something simple like \"All Jews\nsufffered during WWII\" that YOU feel the burning need to add\ncommentary?  Regardless of what people write, you keep trying to twist\nthings into what YOU want to hear.  People with similar tendencies in\nmore extreme form are sometimes called Historical Revisionists.  Is\nthis something that you aspire to?\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nI don't think there is a general distinction.  Rather, there are\ntwo classes of chronic hepatitis: chronic active hepatitis and chronic\npersistent hepatitis.  I can't think of any other disease where the\nterm persistent is used with or in preference to chronic.\n\nMuch as these two terms \"chronic active\" and \"chronic persistent\"\nsound fuzzy, the actual distinction between the two conditions\nis often fairly fuzzy as well.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nAnd here is the first patch :-) The following fixes some problems with the\nImakefile files and makes it possible to compile xv-3.00 under Solaris without \nhaving to use the ucb stuff:\n\n*** 1.1\t1993\/04\/28 06:05:03\n--- Imakefile\t1993\/04\/28 08:20:35\n***************\n*** 209,215 ****\n  OBJS4=\txcmap.o\n  \n  PROGRAMS= xv bggen vdcomp xcmap\n! \n  \n  #if defined(HaveJpeg) || defined(HaveTiff)\n  #  ifdef HaveJpeg\n--- 209,218 ----\n  OBJS4=\txcmap.o\n  \n  PROGRAMS= xv bggen vdcomp xcmap\n! all::\n! \t@echo \"\"\n! \t@echo \"  Did you remember to 'make depend' first?\"\n! \t@echo \"\"\n  \n  #if defined(HaveJpeg) || defined(HaveTiff)\n  #  ifdef HaveJpeg\n***************\n*** 222,238 ****\n       SUBDIRS = tiff\n  #  endif\n  #  define PassCDebugFlags\n     MakeSubdirs($(SUBDIRS))\n-    DependSubdirs($(DUBDIRS))\n  #endif\n  \n  \n  all::\n- \t@echo \"\"\n- \t@echo \"  Did you remember to 'make depend' first?\"\n- \t@echo \"\"\n- \n- all::\n  \t@echo \"  building xv ...\"\n  \t@echo \"\"\n  \n--- 225,236 ----\n       SUBDIRS = tiff\n  #  endif\n  #  define PassCDebugFlags\n+ #  define IHaveSubdirs\n     MakeSubdirs($(SUBDIRS))\n  #endif\n  \n  \n  all::\n  \t@echo \"  building xv ...\"\n  \t@echo \"\"\n  \n***************\n*** 259,267 ****\n  \n  \n  SRCS = $(SRCS1) $(SRCS2) $(SRCS3) $(SRCS4)\n- DependTarget()\n    \n  AllTarget($(PROGRAMS))\n  \n  NormalProgramTarget(xv,$(OBJS1),$(DEPLIBS),$(LOCAL_LIBRARIES),)\n  NormalProgramTarget(bggen,$(OBJS2),$(DEPLIBS),$(LOCAL_LIBRARIES),)\n--- 257,269 ----\n  \n  \n  SRCS = $(SRCS1) $(SRCS2) $(SRCS3) $(SRCS4)\n    \n+ \n  AllTarget($(PROGRAMS))\n+ DependTarget()\n+ #ifdef IHaveSubdirs\n+    DependSubdirs($(SUBDIRS))\n+ #endif\n  \n  NormalProgramTarget(xv,$(OBJS1),$(DEPLIBS),$(LOCAL_LIBRARIES),)\n  NormalProgramTarget(bggen,$(OBJS2),$(DEPLIBS),$(LOCAL_LIBRARIES),)\n*** 1.1\t1993\/04\/28 08:33:13\n--- xv.h\t1993\/04\/28 08:19:31\n***************\n*** 284,292 ****\n--- 284,298 ----\n  \n  \n  \/* signal macros *\/\n+ #if defined(sun) && defined(SYSV)\n+ #define HOLD_SIG         sighold(SIGALRM)\n+ #define RELEASE_SIG      sigrelse(0)\n+ #define PAUSE_SIG        sigpause(0)\n+ #else\n  #define HOLD_SIG         sigblock(sigmask(SIGALRM))\n  #define RELEASE_SIG      sigblock(0)\n  #define PAUSE_SIG        sigpause(0)\n+ #endif\n  \n  \n  \/* default for most folks *\/\n***************\n*** 318,323 ****\n--- 324,333 ----\n  #define random  rand\n  #define srandom srand\n  #endif\n+ #if defined(sun) && defined(SYSV)\n+ #define random() rand()\n+ #define srandom(x) srand(x)\n+ #endif\n  \n  \n  \n*** 1.1\t1993\/04\/28 06:09:50\n--- xcmap.c\t1993\/04\/28 07:09:03\n***************\n*** 9,15 ****\n--- 9,19 ----\n  \n  \/* include files *\/\n  #include <stdio.h>\n+ #if defined(sun) && defined(SYSV)\n+ #include <string.h>\n+ #else\n  #include <strings.h>\n+ #endif\n  #include <ctype.h>\n  \n  #include <X11\/Xos.h>\n*** 1.1\t1993\/04\/28 06:17:41\n--- tiff\/Imakefile\t1993\/04\/28 08:53:34\n***************\n*** 49,59 ****\n--- 49,69 ----\n  \n  tif_compress.o: Imakefile\n  \n+ #if HasGcc\n  g3states.h: mkg3states.c t4.h\n          -${RM} g3states.h\n+ \t${CC} -traditional -o mkg3states ${CFLAGS} mkg3states.c\n+         .\/mkg3states > g3states.h || rm g3states.h\n+ #else\n+ g3states.h: mkg3states.c t4.h\n+         -${RM} g3states.h\n          ${CC} -o mkg3states ${CFLAGS} mkg3states.c\n          .\/mkg3states > g3states.h || rm g3states.h\n+ #endif\n  \n  depend:: g3states.h\n  \n+ clean::\n+ \t-${RM} mkg3states g3states.h\n+ \n  DependTarget()","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Because riding a passenger doesn't really depend on the type of bike.\nThe things you want a passenger to do\/not do is the same.  Ergo, if he's\nasking advice, I reasoned he doesn't have much practice, period.  If\nyou say he does, fine.  I still wouldn't take the uninitiated up a\nroad that's all switch backs and reverse\/center\/uncrowned roadway, not\nto mention the BDCs and squids who will also be on that particular\nroad.  He asked for advice, and even though it wasn't what he meant,\nI still consider it some of the best I've read. ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I have an external drive connected to my IIsi.  This is never\nrecognized and mounted on system startup.  I can mount it with\nthe SCSI control panel.  I'm running system 7.0.1,  and everything\nis properly terminated.  Would anyone have a helpful idea at to \nthe problem?  \n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nOn a similar note, a good friend of mine worked as a clerk in a\nchain bookstore.  Several of his peers were amazing, one woman in\nparticular:\n\nA customer asked her if they had _The Autobiography of Benjamin\nFranklin_.  \"Who's it by?\" was her first question.  Then, \"Is he\nstill alive?\"  Then, \"Is it fiction or non-fiction?\" \n\nFinally my friend intervened, and showed the guy where it was.\n \nIt makes one wonder what the standards of employment are.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nKrishna.\n\nBG10:20(Miller) I am the self abiding in the heart of all creatures; I am\ntheir beginning, their middle, and their end.\nBG10:32(Miller) I am the beginning, the middle, and the end of\ncreations, Arjuna; of sciences, I am the science of the self; I am the\ndispute of orators.\nBG10:41(Miller) Whatever is powerful, lucid, splendid, or invulnerable\nhas its source in a fragment of my brilliance. (42) What use is so much\nknowledge to you, Arjuna? I stand sustaining this entire world with a\nfragment of my being.\nBG11:32(Miller) I am time grown old ...","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"To: turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin)\n\n RT> o  Those administering the treatment do not know which subjects \n RT> receive a placebo or the test treatment.\n\nIt seems to me that many drugs have such severe side effects that \nit might not be possible to keep the doctors from knowing who is \ngetting the true drug.  This is especially true of the drugs used \nfor \"mental\" illnesses.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nWhy are circuit boards green?  The material used to make them goes by two\nnames.  If it is used to make circuit boards it is called FR-4.  The same\nmaterial is used in the cryogenics industrya and marine industries as a\nstructural material and is called G-10.  FR-4 and G-10 are both green.  They\nare not green because of a solder masking agent.  The basic ingredients are\na clear epoxy resin and glass fibers.  I am not sure what the specs are on\nthe resin, but if you are really curious you can call NEMA (National\nElectronics Manufacturing Association) or Ciba Geigy (a major manufacturer\nof epoxy resins) to find out.  As an aside, I occasionally mix clear epoxy\nand glass microsphres to cast small structures for cryogenics experiments.\nThe proportions of glass to epoxy are about the same as in G-10.  They are\nthe same green color.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nWe're NOT???! Hell, I was wondering why there was all the pointless woffle \nabout motorcycles. ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"T.S.Reddy writes\n\nWhile the people here may be claim to be Muslim, the actions reported here,  \nif they actually happened, are 180 degrees opposite from what Islam stands  \nfor, and I, for one, condemn them.\n--","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n(Whatever the above comment has to do with the hazards of fighting a\nfire in the midst of ammo cooking off...)\nMaybe the fire department was loudly complaining the whole time about\nbeing diverted from their other duties, and the FBI said \"FIne. Go home\nand we'll call you if we need you.\"  A million things could have happened,\nwe don't know.\n\nBTW, this is the first time I have heard that the Waco FD was on scene\nfor all but the last 2 days...  what's the source (out of curiosity)?\n\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nI suppose for the same reason Jews call the Occupied Territory, Judea and\nSumaria.  It's called propaganda and if you repeat lies often enough,\npeople start to believe it.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"FOR SALE\n\n                 1945 King Feature Syndicate\n                 Jaymar Specialty Company\n                 200 Fifth Avenue New York, NY\n\n                 Cardboard puzzle - NO BOX\n                 Pieces worn from use\n                 NO MISSING PIECES\n                 Size: 13 3\/4 inches by 21 1\/2 inches\n                 60 Puzzle Pieces\n\n   Puzzle depicts Dagwood, Blondie, the kids, and dog Daisey with her\n   puppies on a picnic with Dagwood and Alexander trying to get\n   a fishing line out of a tree.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"acooper@mac.cc.macalstr.edu (Turin Turambar, ME Department of Utter Misery)\nsaid re. Dan Schaertel's article [if I followed the quoting right]:\n\n\n\n\nI think it may also be worthwhile pointing out that if we\ntake the appellation `Rabbi' seriously then Jesus had a full\ngrasp of contemporary `scripture'\n\nMat21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures...\n\nMat22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing\nMat22:29 the scriptures, nor the power of God.\n\nFollowing from this, he would have been in a wonderful\nposition to fulfil prophesies, and the NT says as much:\n\nMat26:54 But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled,\nMat26:54 that thus it must be?\n\nMat26:56 But all this was done, that the scriptures of the\nMat26:56 prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples\nMat26:56 forsook him, and fled.\n\nIf the books comprising the referred-to `scripture' had not\nbeen accessible then it probably would be a different\nmatter.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"This whole discussion is just a religous war.  I'd rather have a '93 RX-7\nthan the Mustang 5.0L for 3 times the price.  That's how you explain\nPorsches selling.  Some folks would rather have the Stang...\n\n<shrug>\n\nSean","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"   Dandridge Cole and Isaac Asimov collaborated on a book titled,\n\"Habitable Planets for Man\" (I think) in 1964.  It should be available\nin most good libraries, or through inter-library loan.\n\n   It answered the questions you ask (speculatively, of course), along\nwith many more that need to be considered in habitability studies:\nlength of day (for day\/night temperature variation, and agricultural\nconcerns), partial pressures of certain unexpected gasses (ever hear of\nxenon narcosis?  neither did I), density of particulates in the atm, and\ntheir composition (ever hear of silicosis?  not much fun), etc.\n\n   Climate isn't a global phenomenon and probably needn't concern you,\nbut axial tilt ought to.  It plays a large part in determining the\nseverity of seasonal differences, and a lesser but still significant\npart in determining the speed of prevailing winds.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nThanks. Got that from two other sources as well. The full quote is as\nfollows:\n\nFrom Dorothy Denning, CRYPTOGRAPHY AND DATA SECURITY, Addison-Wesley\n1982,1983, page 8:\n\n\"Cryptosystems must satisfy three general requirements:\n\n\"1. The enciphering and deciphering transformations must be efficient for\nall keys.\n\n\"2. The system must be easy to use.\n\n\"3. The security of the system should depend only on the secrecy of the\nkeys and not on the secrecy of algorithms E [enciphering] or D\n[deciphering].\"\n\n\n\n--Mike\n\n\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nUh, Bob, why is the battery warmer than ground temperature?  On the time\nscales in question, and with the considerably reduced temperature swings\nseveral feet underground, there isn't going to be any major temperature\ndifference between the battery and what it's sitting on.\n\n\nBecause the temperature of your hand, *unlike that of the battery*, is\ndetermined by the balance between internal heat production and external\nheat loss.  You're feeling the greater rate of heat loss from an object\n(your hand) which is kept much warmer than its surroundings.  In the case\nof an object with no significant internal heat production, this will\naffect how quickly it comes into equilibrium with its surroundings (if\nit started out not in equilibrium with them) but won't affect the final\ntemperature.\n\nFor the same reason, windchill affects whether you will freeze but not\nwhether water will freeze.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"xIf you put a locking lugnut on your tires, do you need to have your\nxtires rebalanced??\nx\nxJohn Mas\nx\nxE-Mail Address     ::     MAS@SKCLA.MONSANTO.COM\n\nSince the wheel\/tire is balanced off the car i.e. the lugnuts are\nnot normally involved, how would they do that? I would think that\nsince the lugs are so close to the center of rotation any slight\ndifference in weight between a normal lugnut and a locking one would\nnot have any noticable effect on the balance. I could be wrong, it *is*\nFriday afternoon.\n~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\nMack Costello <mcostell@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Code 65.1 (formerly 1720.1)\nDavid Taylor Model Basin, Carderock Division Hq. NSWC    ___\/-\\____\nBethesda, MD 20084-5000   Phone (301) 227-2431          (__________>|","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I would like to see a serious discussion on the best way to install windows\nfrom a Novell administrator's point of view.\n \nI just got off the phone with MS Access support and was told that they\n(Microsoft) has decided to implement, as a standard for software support,\nthe LOCAL setup (described below) as the \"most advantageous installation\".\nIf this is true and Microsoft deems this to be the most prudent installation\nthen I will comply but I'd like to hear it from administrators first.\n \nThe LOCAL Windows Installation:\n~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\nWindows is fully installed on each workstation hard drive (assuming the\nresources are available).  From a network administrator's implementation,\nhe\/she would install all windows disks on a network drive using SETUP\/A.\nThen install windows on a per\/machine bases by running SETUP off the network\nto install the complete system on the local drives.  In this way, all drivers\nare available to the SETUP procedure w\/o the need to change disks.\n \nAdvantages:\n- Reduce Traffic - Running Windows locally reduces network traffic due to\n  the local access of main Windows files.\n- Network independence - If the network fails (and they all do at one point\n  or another), the local installation would allow users to keep producing\n  and reduce the cost of down-time.\n- Faster Windows - Theoretically, Windows will run faster from a local hard\n  drive than over a network.  This may be a hard point to prove if the network\n  has an optical backbone and\/or the network drives are significantly faster\n  access than local ones.\n- A user traveling from machine to machine does not need to worry about\n  varying setups (monochrome, color, types of mouse, etc...) since the\n  Windows installation is assigned to the Workstation.\n \nDisadvantages:\n- Cost - Installing Windows locally requires a significant amount of disk\n  space.  Workstations now must be purchased with a hard disk that can\n  increase the cost of the workstation from 10 to 30 percent.\n- Administration - Local windows installations are very difficult to\nadminister.\n  New drivers for peripherals are constantly being made available, each of\n  which would have to be individually installed on each workstation.\n- Security - Users now have access to erase or corrupt their own system\n  files from simple ignorance.  This could result in quite a headache for\n  administrators who may have to constantly repair damaged installations.\n- Backup - We all know the problems backing up local hard disks.  The backup\n  sets (if done via a centralized tape system) get very large very quickly.\n  Backup individually (to floppy) may not happen at all.  This may be\n  eliminated if it is assumed that local hard disks only contain replaceable\n  applications and *not* user data.\n \nThe SHARED Windows Installation\n~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\nWindows is fully installed to a network disk via the SETUP\/A procedure\ndescribed above.  Users (or administrators) then install a minimal set of\nfiles to individual \"user\" directories.  These directories may be on a\nlocal hard disk or perhaps a network \"home\" directory.  The bulk of the\nWindows system files are maintained on the network in a single directory\n(some 400+ files) and are accessed (shared) as-needed by users throughout\ntheir Windows session.  The user's files consist of a small set of files\nthat the user has updated during his\/her Windows session.  These include\ngroup files, .INI files and other regularly updated files.\n \nAdvantages:\n- A single location for all files makes updates to drives easy.  As\n  an updated driver becomes available, it only needs to be installed in this\n  single directory for all users to be able to take advantage of it.\n- Assuming that the users' files are maintained in network (home) directories,\n  the administrator can easily edit any .INI file as-needed to correct\n  problems that may arise.  This includes WIN.INI and SYSTEM.INI.\n- Backup of all pertinent files is done easily.  Even if the users' files\n  are on a local hard disk, the bulk of the Windows system is backed up with\n  all driver updates.\n \nDisadvantages:\n- Network traffic - since all Windows files are being shared in a network\n  directory, traffic on the network can become a problem an effect the\n  speed of Windows.\n- If the network crashes, all production comes to a stop since Window's\n  is reliant upon the network for its files.  Loss of data usually occurs\n  as well since users working in Windows at the time of the crash will\n  usually not be able to save their work.\n- Although minimal, disk space is still a consideration.  If the users' files\n  are maintained on the network, a large number of users can cause a\n  significant utilization of disk space due to their personal Windows\n  files alone.\n- Users cannot easily move from machine to machine unless the workstation\n  hardware are similar.  This is due to the Windows installation being\n  tied to a particular username (in the case of Network user files).\n  \nThe Discussion\n~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\nI would like to know, from other administrators with a large Windows\nuserbase, how they prefer setting up Windows.  Personally, I have\nsetup numerous installations using the SHARED setup.  All Windows and\napplication files are on the network with little or no utilization of\nlocal hard disks.  In fact, I sold a network on the fact that the\ncompany would no longer need to purchase hard disks for their workstations\nand thus save that much more money.\n \nI would also like to see recommendations for applications.  Should\napps such as Word and\/or Excel be installed locally regardless of how\nWindows is installed?  Again, I keep all files on the network for easy\nbackup and administration but this is \"putting all eggs in one basket\";\nif the network crashes, work comes to a halt.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n...\n\nRegarding the first paragraph, I would say that I didn't write it. I\ndon't believe that unbaptized babies are put in Hell. I don't even\nbelieve in Hell. At least, I don't believe in a fiery place where\nthere will be \"gnashing of teeth\".","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I caught the tail end of a piece on NPR (National Public Radio) about\nChomsky.  Apparently there is a new documentary about him and his\nconcepts on the propagandist news media of the West, or some such.\nThe funny thing is that NPR painted Chomsky and the documentary in\nsuch a positive light, or at least ended the report in a positive way.\nThe documentary is just now showing in a few cities in the US, and\nwill open in more cities in June.  Sorry, forgot the title.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\tMy feeling on baptism is this:  parents baptize their baby so that the\n\tbaby has the sanctifying grace of baptism (and thus removal of original\n\tsin) on its soul in the event of an unexpected death.\n\t\n\tThat is, the parents speak on behalf of the child which is too young\n\tto speak on its own.  This should not surprise anyone:  don't parents\n\t*always* do what they believe is the best for their baby?  Why would\n\tthat apply to the baby's physical needs only but not his\/her spiritual\n\tneeds to have God's grace?\n\t\n\tThe purpose of confirmation is for the baby (now young adult) to \n\tdecide to re-affirm for himself\/herself the promises that his\/her\n\tparents made at baptism.  That is where accepting Jesus into your\n\theart comes in.  In baptism, the parents ask Jesus to come into their\n\tbaby's heart; at confirmation the child repeats that request \n\tindependently.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nAn '82 FT500 Ascot was my first bike--I recommend it.  If anyone's\ninterested, mine's for sale.  It's in LA currently, with a bum\nstarter and around 10k miles.  I'd like a couple hundred for it.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n  Precisely my position.  \n\n  As a newbie, I tried the point-by-point approach to debate with\n  these types.  It wasted both my time and my lifespan.  Ignoring\n  them is not an option, since they don't go away, and doing so\n  would leave one with large stretches of complete anonymity in this\n  group.\n\n  What's left?  Healthy flaming.  I'm sure on occassion I've\n  appeared to be little more than a caustic boob to some of the\n  Bobby types.  But why waste breath arguing with someone whose most\n  rational though process involves his excretory system?\n\n  And I stand by my record of recognizing these people long before\n  most of the rest of the group.  So let's see what this Timmons\n  character has in store for us...\n\n\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\ \n\nBob Beauchaine bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM \n\nThey said that Queens could stay, they blew the Bronx away,\nand sank Manhattan out at sea.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\nI am using xdm on X11R5 with OW3 and Xview3 on Sun3s and SPARCs running \nSunOS 4.1.1.  Prior to using xdm, I used to set PATH and other environment\nvariables (like MANPATH, HELPPATH, ARCH, etc) in my .login file.  With xdm,\nthe .login file doesn't get executed and therefore neither the olwm\nroot-window nor my applications know about these variables.\n\nI used the \"DisplayManager._0.userPath\" resource in \/usr\/lib\/X11\/xdm\/xdm-config\nto succesfully pass the PATH variable.  But I am having problems passing anything else!!!  I tried execing $HOME\/.login in \/usr\/lib\/X11\/xdm\/Xsession\nbut that didn't help.  I also tried using\n\t\"DisplayManager.exportList: HELPPATH MANPATH ARCH\"\nwhich didn't work either.\n\nI would appreciate any help on this matter.\n\nThanks in advance,\nShash","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nI am sure some bashers of Pens fans are pretty confused about the lack\nof any kind of posts about the recent Pens massacre of the Devils. Actually,\nI am  bit puzzled too and a bit relieved. However, I am going to put an end\nto non-PIttsburghers' relief with a bit of praise for the Pens. Man, they\nare killing those Devils worse than I thought. Jagr just showed you why\nhe is much better than his regular season stats. He is also a lot\nfo fun to watch in the playoffs. Bowman should let JAgr have a lot of\nfun in the next couple of games since the Pens are going to beat the pulp out of Jersey anyway. I was very disappointed not to see the Islanders lose the final\nregular season game.          PENS RULE!!!\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Maddi: >>\n\n\n\nNo, no, no!  I've already been named by \"Killfile\" Keith.\nMy nickname is Maddi \"Never a Useful Post\" Hausmann, and\ndon't you DARE forget it, \"Half\".\n\n\nYou really should quote Ivan Karamazov instead(on a.a), as he was\nthe atheist.\n\n-- \nMaddi Hausmann                       madhaus@netcom.com\nCentigram Communications Corp        San Jose California  408\/428-3553","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\nWhat makes you say that the guns were illegal?? I understand that the BD's\nhad a valid Class III Federal Firearms Permit, which would allow them to\nhave pretty much anything short of a howitzer legally.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nMy comment was off the top of my head; I wasn't aware that it had\nalready been thought of.  Guess it's true that there's nothing new under\nthe sun (or in this case, the flying billboards.)\n\n\n--","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nNO! I'm running both at home. Ok, to the cumpter is turned off right now but I\ndid boot BSD\/386 from an IDE drive, most of the system is on a SCSI drive...\n\nI'm using an Adaptec 1542B and a no-name el-cheapo IDE card.\n\n\nGuy","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\tThe first and only thing I've ever tried to auto-trace was a piece\nof a USCG nautical chart using Adobe Illustrator 3.2.  I wanted to get the\noutline of the coast for Western Long Island Sound.  I was simultaneously\nsuprised at how good a job it did and disappointed at how poorly it did.  I\nsuspect what I gave it was a very difficult thing; not only is the coastline\nvery irregular, but overlaid on the chart are numerous sets of gridlines\n(not only lattitude and longitude, but loran grids as well).  The most\ncommon mistake it make was whenever the coastline was roughly parallel and\ntangent to a grid line, it would take off following the gridline instead of\nthe coast.  I think the best improvement would be some sort of interactive\nalgorithm that would let you step in and say \"no, dummy, you're going the\nwrong way\".\n\n\tSteve Reisberg, a friend of mine a few years back(*), did his\ndoctoral work analysing electron micrographs of filimentous phage (virii).\nA good chunk of the work was writing a program to take a digitized\nmicrograph and automatically trace the centerline of the virus particles.\nThis is essentially the same problem that Illustrator tries to solve with\nits auto-trace tool.\n\n\tIn some respects the problem Steve worked on was harder, since he\nwas trying to do quantitative analysis of the virus structure and finding a\ngood centerline was only the first step, but a step on which all future\nanalysis depended.  However, in other respects, it was an easier problem\nsince the program could be written with a lot of knowledge about what the\nvirus particles were supposed to look like, and the analysis could be\nrestricted to those particles which happend to be relatively straight,\nclean, and well imaged; you don't always have that freedom auto-tracing real\nlife images.  In any case, it gave me some insight into just how difficult\nthis problem is to solve in the general case.\n\n\t(*) Steve is no longer with us.  He and his wife disappeared while\non vacation in Hawaii a couple of years after they graduated.  Their last\nknown location was hiking in a densely wooded in a mountainous area.  While no\nbodies were ever found, they are presumed to have been the victim of some\nsort of fall or accident in the woods.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nHehehe!  Dontcha just love these carefully constructed arguements?\n\nClayton, babe, please define the word `molest`.  Are you using a legal\nterm or a proper dictionary term?  Molest, as far as I can remember, means\n`to do damage to person(s)`.  My mate, Mike, was lured into a woman's parlour\nwhen he was 14.  Is that molestation?  A number of my friends (straight) lost\ntheir virginity before that.  Were they 'molested'?  They told me that they\nthoroughly enjoyed the experience.  I see no damage.  \n\nPlease stop pushing your objective morality on others.  If you push, people won't\nfall over and say 'Ye gads, you're right!', they'll just push back.\n\nHave you signed up for that logic course yet?\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Where can I get documentation about the X-Server-Internals?\nBTW, I'm also interested in documentation about TIGA.\n\nAny hints welcome.\n\nThanks, rainer.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"It is the new command with Dos 6 that allows you to erase your directory and\nall the files in it, without first erasing the individual files.\n\n-- ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nI asked him, and Don Cherry denies being Roger Maynard and he denies\nany knowledge of Usenet. :-)","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nPerhaps Iranians are not Arabs even not-so-strictly-speaking ?\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I've been getting seemingly random disk accesses on my Centris 610\nwith a Quantum 240 LPS, but this is NOT the regular recalibration it has been\ndoing since I got it....  This is sometimes short, sometimes long, accesses\nthat sound like there is some read\/writing going on.\n\tI have SAM 3.5, and Disinfectant 3.0, but neither picks up anything..\nAny ideas?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I am trying to obtain a HI-FI copy of Guns N' Roses pay per view last\nsummer from Paris.  If anyone has a copy they would like to sell, or\ncould make me a copy, please e-mail me.  Thanks\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I use those routines in a widget which only redraws exposed areas.\nhere's a small piece of code that uses those routines\n\nstatic void Redisplay(pw, ev, region)\nXtpManagerWidget pw;\nXExposeEvent *ev;\nRegion region;\n\n\/* pp->exposure_region is an XRegion *\/\nXtpManagerPart *pp = &pw->plotter;\npp->exposure_region = XCreateRegion();\n   \/* region is passed via an expose event *\/\nif(region == NULL)\n{\nif (ev->send_event)  \/* synthetic event sent by widget it wants a full redraw*\/\n        {\n        exporect.x = pw->core.x;\n        exporect.y = pw->core.y;\n        exporect.width = pw->core.width;\n        exporect.height = pw->core.height;\n        }\n     else\n        {\n        exporect.x = ev->x;\n        exporect.y = ev->y;\n        exporect.width = ev->width;\n        exporect.height = ev->height;\n        }\n\nstuff deleted      \n\n\/* region now contains the exposure region *\/\n        XUnionRectWithRegion(&exporect,pp->exposure_region,pp->exposure_region);\n}\nelse\n        XUnionRegion ( region, pp->exposure_region, pp->exposure_region);\nstuff deleted \n\/* WE NEED to CLIP on EXPOSE REGION for REDRAWING the GRID *\/\n        XSetRegion(XtDisplayOfObject(pw), pp->plotarea_gc,pp->exposure_region);\nstuff deleted \n        \/* check to see if child is exposed *\/\n        if (XRectInRegion (pw->plotter.exposure_region,\n                         child->core.x ,\n                         child->core.y ,\n                         child->core.width  ,\n                         child->core.height ))\n\nSo, I build up a region of exposures so that when I service my container\nwidget redraw of rectobj children, I only redraw what need to be redrawn.\n\nIt works for me, hope this helps you.\nBrian\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nNo, MIS folks have infinite budgets of death, and they also get parts\nof their budget allocated \"upgrades\", \"maintenance\", and \"new purchases\",\nand a lot of IBM mainframe purchases are actually \"leases\" and so\nis the software.\n\nBasically, the engineers who have tight budgets, i.e. the coders and\ndesigners of a company, bitch and moan when they drop 15,000 on a \nSparc 1 only to see a faster machine appear a year later.  MIS types\nupgrade once every 5-10 years, and their costs are amortized and\ndepreciated over a longer period, and the budget office justifies\nthe expense because they actually use the machines for accounting,\npayroll, etc.\n\nNow, if the budget office was dependant on the engineers for some\nreason like payroll and accounts, you'd sure as hell see every\nengineer with a new Cray on his desktop every year. :-)","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\tHuman infants do have bown fat deposits while adult humans are\nbelieved not to have brown fat.\n\tAlso while brown fat may play an important role in rousing\nhibernators, it is definitely not limited to hibernating animals -- it\nis a common energy source for nonshivering thermogenesis.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n70277.2502@compuserve.com\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n[ Questions deleted ]\n\n\nDoes any one know what the PAS16 SCSI port is? I counted the pins on the board\ndisplayed in their ad and it only got 40! What happened to the other 50?\n\nDid they junk a whole bunch of grounds or what?\n\n\nGuy","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"All right, listen up....  What are the possibilities of transmission through\nswimming pool water?  Especially if the chlorination isn't up to par?","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\"Personal gain\": for his own monetary advantage.  I don't think\nanyone would dispute that he both violated his oath of office, and\nabused his powers.  But that's not for personal gain.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nTake a look at WinQVT\/net -- the latest version is QVT\/net 3.4\nIt comes in versions that are direct to packet driver, as well as a PC NFS \nversion.\n\nIt is priced quite low; registration = $40, student registration = $20, and is \na nice package -- comes complete with VT220 terminal emulation, FTP, POP3 \nclient, LPR, and NNTP client.\n\nYou can FTP it from \"biochemistry.bioc.cwru.edu\" \/pub\/qvtnet\/qvtnet34.zip\n\nIt was also uploaded to ftp.cica.indiana.edu recently.\n\nAshok\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Haven't we wasted enough bandwidth on this silly discussion already!!\n[Please no flames -- let sanity prevail]","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nAbout 2 years ago, there was a lot of noise about a Church in the Old\nCity of Jerusalem being taken over by a Jewish group.  In fact, the\nbuilding in question was a dormitory that belonged to a church and was \nnot physically connected to any church.  It had been leased to a\nPalestinean Arab for 99 years and a Jewish group sub-leased it from\nhim.  The church that owned the building disapproved and legal action\nwas started to revoke the sub-lease.  The media, however, made it look\nlike Jewish vigilantes were stealing Church property in Jerusalem by\nforce. \n\n\nThe damage has already been done by the press in the above case.  It\nis not surprising by now, of course, that many \"decent people\" regard\nthe press \"with utmost suspicion\".\n\n\nYou appear to be referring to Moshe Dayan.  How do you know that the\n\"evicted Jordanians\" were not provided with something else?  In fact,\nthis thread indicates that they were squatters on land that they did\nnot own but received compensation for their loss, anyways!  Woe to\nJews when they feel that recovering land that has been taken from them\nby force (with \"ethnic cleansing\" of any remaining Jews) is\n\"disgusting and shameful\".  \n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Hooray, I hear on TSN that the Jets have won a game, Selanne\ngetting a hat-trick!\n\nOf course, here in GOD'S COUNTRY (read Ontario!) I couldn't\nsee that game, nor any other in the VAN-WPG series so far,\nbecause our beloved CBC figures no one out here cares about\nthis series (which has looked pretty competitve so far...\n\nOn Monday and Wednesday nights, CBC could have shown the Toronto-\nDetroit game, done the news, then picked up Winnipeg-Vancouver.\nThey didn't.  Tonight?  You guessed it, Toronto-Detroit, the\nnews (not the end of the Jets game), then Calgary-LA.\n\nSO, if it's \"Hockey Night in Canada\", why can't this Ontarian see\none of the two series with two Canadian teams?  Is this too much to\nask?","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Selling:\n\nColeco Base Unit with:\n 2 Controllers\n 1 Atari Game Adapter to Play Atari games\n 12 games (Ms. Pac Man, Smurfs, etc..)\n\nWill ship COD\n\nPrice$: MAKE AN OFFER","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"# Mr. Cramer, I am still waiting for your response to my requests regarding\n# the information you claim to have.  I respectfully request that you either\n# provide the information or withdraw the various assertions you make below.\n# \n# Item number 1:  in a previous posting, you stated that you had found\n# \"overwhelming support for child molestation\" in soc.motss:\n# \n# You have (finally) responded to this one.  I have read your complete file\n# of postings to soc.motss and to put it bluntly, it does not support your\n# assertion.  In short, this claim is bogus.  Thank you for confirming this.\n\nAll those postings in defense of adults having sex with children, and\nyou just choose to claim that they don't say anything of the sort.\nThere's no point in discussing this any further, then.  You are clearly\na liar, without morals of any sort, prepared to justify child molestation.\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I posted on here about a problem with a Datadesk 101e keyboard that\nfailed to rebuild the desktop with the command-option keys pressed\nor to shut off inits when pressing the shift key.  After absolutely\nno help from Datadesk I called MacConnection tech support.  They tried it out\non their Centris 610 and had the same problem.  They immediately offered\nto get a new keyboard, try it on their Centris and ship it to me\novernight if it worked.  I could send them my keyboard back after I\ngot the one that worked.  This is from a guy in Tech support named Dave.\nIt turns out that the keyboard will wrok if you wait for the smiley face\nbefore pressing the shift key to disable inits and wait for the inits to start appearing to rebuild the desktop by pressing command-option.  I really like\nthis keyboard so I was glad to be able to keep it.  On the other hand,\nDatadesks tech support sucks while MacConnection's is great!\n-Terry\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nOn the other hand, I'm hard pressed to think of any other real mistakes\nFereirra made.  Imagine indeed, but then again we have the benefit of\nhindsight.\n\nLet's say that in the view of the Sharks' upper management, the attempt\nto trade Kisio was a major factor in the decision to fire Feirerra.\nI'm inclined to take exactly the opposite view:  they should have kept\nhim...he's obviously the luckiest man in hockey!  (Wonder what\nsacrifice he made to the Muse of Fax?  (His job, I guess.))\n\nhave fun\ngak\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nWell, I am placing a file at my ftp today that contains several\npolygonal descriptions of a head, face, skull, vase, etc. The format\nof the files is a list of vertices, normals, and triangles. There are\nvarious resolutions and the name of the data file includes the number\nof polygons, eg. phred.1.3k.vbl contains 1300 polygons.\n\n\nIn order to get the data via ftp do the following:\n\n\t1) ftp taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil\n\t2) login as anonymous, guest as the password\n\t3) cd pub\/dabro\n\t4) binary\n\t5) get cyber.tar.Z\n\nOnce you get the data onto your workstation:\n\n\t1) uncompress data.tar.Z\n\t2) tar xvof data.tar\n\nIf you have any questions, please let me know.\n\ngeorge dabro\ndabro@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil\n-- \ngeorge dabrowski\nCyberware Labs","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nSomeone once sold heated motorcycle grips via mail order.  The were \naftermarket replacement grips that had the heating elements mlded into the \ngrip itself.  Wires ran outside of the bars, from the grips to a switch and \nfinaly the battery.  Cycle Magazine tested them YEARS ago and liked them.  \nDunno if they are still made.  Might check with the snowmobile racers.\n\n ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====----","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nOr perhaps David Koresh didn't listen too well??  Just because mistakes\nwere made does not mean the President *lied*.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nPrecisely, why not Cuba??  Why not???  The Hatians are being ruled by thugs \nand their elected leader has asked support to reestablish the peoples will.  If \nthe U.S. or any other democracy wishes to, they are in the perfect right to \nhelp them without any whining from thir parties.  After all if it turns out to \nbe colonialism and the poeple don't like it, they' find a way to throw them out.\n\n\nWho ever said people who commit genocide have the right to commit genocide??  \nI want a world where criminals agains humanity have no place to hide, while you \nwant special sovereignties designed to protect them.  Nobody has the right to \ncommit crimes against humanity, and if they do they loose all right to self \ndetermination.  If this is classical colonialism, then so be it.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nOooo,I hope it's nothing like I had on my Seca turbo.\nI had locked up the back wheel and forgot about it.\nWhen I took off I heard a 'clunk', but I just drove away\nleaving the lock broken on the ground.  Real security\nin action.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Your Price\tList Price\n\t\t\t\t\t\t==========\t==========\n\tC Memory Management Techniques\t\t$22.00\t\t$32.95\n\tLen Dorfman &\n\tMarc J. Neuberger\n\t(Includes disk)\n\t1993\n\n\tBorland C++ Handbook\t\t\t$18.00\t\t$29.95\n\tSecond Edition\n\t(Covers version 3.0)\n\tChris H. Pappas & \n\tWilliam H. Murray, III\n\t1992\n\n\tConverting C to Turbo C++\t\t$18.00\t\t$29.95\n\tLen Dorfman\n\t(Includes disk)\n\t1992\n\n\tThe Art of C\t\t\t\t$22.00\t\t$39.95\n\tHerbert Schildt\n\t(Includes disk)\n\t1991\n\n\tUsing Turbo C++\t\t\t\t$12.00\t\t$24.95\n\tHerbert Schildt\n\t1990\n\n\tC : The Complete Reference\t\t$18.00\t\t$28.95\n\tSecond Edition\n\tHerbert Schildt\n\t1990\n\n\tUsing C++\t\t\t\t$12.00\t\t$24.95\n\t(Version 2.0)\n\tBruce Eckel\n\t1989\n\n\tAdvanced C\t\t\t\t$9.00\t\t$21.95\n\tHerbert Schildt\n\tSecond Edition\n\t1988\n\n\tHigh Performance Interactive Graphics\t$8.00\t\t$22.95\n\tLee Adams\n\t(Examples done in BASIC)\n\t1987\n\n\tHigh Performance CAD Graphics in C\t$10.00\t\t$26.95\n\tLee Adams\n\t1986\n\n\tPCTools the Complete Reference\t\t$15.00\t\t$29.95\n\tSecond Edition\n\t(Versions 7.0 and 7.1)\n\tHy Bender\n\t1992\n\n\tDVORAK'S Inside track to\t\t$20.00\t\t$39.95\n\tDOS and PC Performance\n\tJohn Dvorak &\n\tNick Anis\n\t1992\n\n\tAdvanced Quick C  2nd Edition\t\t$9.00\t\t$22.95\n\t(Version 2)\n\tWerner Feibel\n\t1989\n\n\tWordPerfect : The Complete Reference\t$12.00\t\t$24.95\n\tSeries 5 Edition\n\tKaren L. Acerson\n\t1988\n\n\tUsing Ventura Publisher\t\t\t$8.00\t\t$24.95\n\tQUE\n\t1988\n\t(This book covers the first version, but)\n\t(it might be good for newer versions too)\n\n\tUsing OS\/2\t\t\t\t$8.00\t\t$19.95\n\tKris Jamsa\n\t1988\n\t(This book is for version 1.x, obviously)\n\n\tUsing Generic CADD  Levels 1-3\t\t$10.00\t\t$22.95\n\tRay C. Freeman III\n\t1989\n\n\n\tI will pay shipping.\n\t(Only in the USA)\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nDoesn't anybody actually read the licence agreement of WinBench\nbefore blindly running it? The licence agreement very clearly says\nthat details about hardware configuration, driver, resolution and\nother relevant facts *MUST* be included when giving WinMark results.\n\nZiff-Davis wants everybody to do this and that requirement makes\nsense, really! Plain numbers are useless when resolution, driver and\nmachine are unknown.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"#I find myself unable to put these two statements together in a\n#sensible way:\n#\n#>Abortion is done because the mother can not afford the *pregnancy*.\n#\n#[...]\n#\n#>If we refused to pay for the more expensive choice of birth, *then*\n#>your statement would make sense.  But that is not the case, so it doesn't.\n#\n#Are we paying for the birth or not, Mr. Parker?  If so, why can't the\n#mother afford the pregnancy?  If not, what is the meaning of the\n#latter objection?  You can't have it both ways.\n\nBirth != pregnancy.  If they were the same, the topic of abortion would \nhardly arise, would it, Mr. Skinner?\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nIt is not a question of an individuals standing. When a party puts up an\nArab for a Cabinet post and that Arab is rejected but the position is given\nto a Jew from the same party we are not talking about power but racism.\nWould you care to deny this has happened on several occasions with Labour\ncoalitions?\n\n\nNot their party - them as *individuals*. Even when they belong to nice\npeaceful Zionist mainstream parties they are not welcome. Arabs are\nexcluded on ficitious security grounds which are just an excuse. It\nsure looks like racism to me.\n\nArabs are excluded from cabinet, even when they do the things you\nsuggest, because they are Arabs. Unless of course you have a better\nreason? I am happy to listen to any good reason why a leftist Jew\nis less of a security risk than a leftist Arab from the same party.\nLook at the present cabinet.\n\nJoseph Askew\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Hello.  I have (4) SIMMS for sale.  They are 1 megabyte\n\teach, and are of the 3-chip variety.  These are very high\n\tquality SIMMS, and are nearly brand new.  Best of all:\n\tthey are ***60*** nanoseconds (the fastest available!)\n\n\tPlease make an offer.  I prefer to sell all four SIMMS \n\tto the same person (to lessen shipping costs), but if you\n\tjust want one or two, please make an offer anyway.\n\n\tThanks a lot: bitzm@columbia.dsu.edu\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nAnd guess who's here in your place.\n\nPlease finger xyzzy@gnu.ai.mit.edu for information, or if you are\na mail\/news only site, mail xyzzy@gnu.ai.mit.edu with the subject line\n\"SEND FINGER\".\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"If you are a user of Autodesk 3D Concepts, and are willing to answer\na small number of short questions, then please send me Email.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nSo, hey, like, does this work the other way? If I was to like, you\nknow, strap a generator to my FZJRR11000KRX and route its output to\nthe chain, could I increase the horsepower? 32 meters a sec is\npretty nice and all, but, I'd still like to be able to blow away \na Goldwing without going to nitro...\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I'm just starting out with motorcycles,  I've read up on the subject a bit,\ntalked to many of my friends who own\/ride bikes and encourage me to do the\nsame.  But when I ask about what kind of bike i should be looking at... i get\nvaried answers.\n\n\nI'm 6'3\", about 230#, large\/athletic build...  I suppose that would help to\ndetermine the size bike i'd want.  I want something that's going to be fast and\npowerful enough to satisfy certain cravings once i'm used to it.  I also want\nsomething that is not going to be like a bronc my first time out.  Any ideas?!  \n\n\n\n\nBill","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nSure, a person could have great respect for Jesus and yet be an \natheist.  (Having great respect for Jesus does not necessarily mean \nthat one has to follow the Christian [or Muslim] interpretation of \nhis life.) ","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\txli, xloadimage or ImageMagick - export.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.0.12] \/contrib","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":": To wheelspin in an auto, you keep the gear in N - gas it - then stick the \n: gear in D... I've never tried this but am sure it works - but does this screw \n: up the autobox? We're having a bit of a debate about it here...\n\nI've known more people to leave their rear ends in pieces doing this, \nespecially if they have reasonable power to transmit and good traction\non the road surface.\n\nYou're better off powerbraking.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nVery interested indeed! This is against this kind of \"changes\" that the GNU\nCOPYLEFT is protecting us.\n\nAnyway, at SIMULOG, we will abandon xv. We were using it mostly for slide-\nshows because of its \"-loop\" feature that display does not have (display\nfrom the *wonderful* ImageMagick package! :-D), but I think I will implement\nit myself (even a shell-script should do the job) and forget xv.\n\nCheers,\nChristophe.\n-- muller@simulog.fr","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":": Mike Adams suggested discussions on long-term effects of spaceflight\n: to the human being.  I love this topic, as some of you regulars know.\n\n: So, having seen Henry's encouraging statement about starting to talk\n: about it; I shall.\n\n: I feel that we as a community of people have unique resources\n: to deliver to the world a comprehensive book which can elaborate\n: on the utility of spaceflight to fields which are as divergent \n: as medical intensive care, agriculture, environmental protection, and \n: probably more.  I do not believe that the general public understands\n: the impact of spaceflight on the whole of society.  In the absence\n: of such knowledge, we see dwindling support of the world's space effort.\n\nJust a few contributions from the space program to \"regular\" society:\n\n1.\tCalculators\n2.\tTeflon (So your eggs don't stick in the pan)\n3.\tPacemakers (Kept my grandfather alive from 1976 until 1988)\n\n\np.s.  To all the regular contributors to sci.space.news and\nsci.space.shuttle, thanks for all your hard work keeping us informed\nas to the doings down in NASA and other space-type agencies.  I don't\nhave much time to read USENET, but I ALWAYS read these two groups....\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Not to mention how those those liberal presidents, Nixon, Ford,\nReagan, Bush.   did nothing to support  true commercial space\nactivities.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":": : So in conclusion it can be shown that there is essentially no\n: : logical argument which clearly differentiates a \"cult\" from a\n: : \"religion\".  I challenge anyone to produce a distinction which\n: : is clear and can't be easily knocked down.  \n\n: How about this one: a religion is a cult which has stood the test\n: of time.\n\nJust like history is written by the `winners' and not the `losers.'\nFrom what I've seen of religions, a religion is just a cult that\nwas so vile and corrupt it was able to exert it's doctrine using\npolitical and military measures.  Perhaps if Koresh withstood the\nonslaught for another couple of months he would have started \nattracting more converts due to his `strength,' hence becoming a\nfull religion and not just a cult.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I am having troubleloading my Logitech Scanman Driver (latest version) into\nhigh memory with the devicehigh command in MSDOS 6. It gives me an\n'invalid parameters' message. Is it necessary to change some of the scanner\ndriver parameters when loading high?\nAny help would be appreciated\n ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nThis must vary from state to state, because our old company Kemper wanted\nto drop me (keeping my wife) or tripple our premium because i had 1 ticket.\nOnly 2 points for 10 mph over speed limit.  Well i called Geico, and they\ninsured both my wife and i for less then we were previously paying\nKemper.\n\nGenerally i hate the whole insurance game. I realize that it is necessary\nbut the way that a person can get dicked around doesn't make any sense.\n\nOne good thing about Geico is that everything can be handled over\nthe phone.\n\n\n\n                                                  .  \n                                                 \/                \nLarry                            __\/    _______\/_                 \nkeys@csmes.ncsl.nist.gov       \/                  \\               \n                          _____     __     _____    \\------- ===\n            ----------- \/ ____\/   \/  \/   \/__  __\/              \\\n         \/     ___    \/  \/ ___   \/  \/      \/ \/    ____          |\n        |    \/      \\\/ \/__ \/  | \/  \/__  __\/ \/__ \/       \\      \/ \n        \/___         \\_______\/ \/_____\/ \/______\/            ====OO\n            \\       \/                           \\       \/         \n                -            1990 2.0 16v           -\n\n\n       ---------------- FAHRVERGNUGEN FOREVER! --------------------            \n            The fact that I need to explain it to you indicates\n            that you probably wouldn't understand anyway!","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThe number you gave is the Borland BBS, and darned if I can find any\nstealth drivers there!\n\nDiamond's BBS is 1-408-730-1100 - according to the manual I got with\nmy Stealth-24.  I have had a bunch of trouble using the RIGHT drivers\nthat came with the card (locking up, de-syncing, etc.) so I hope you \ndo better than I do!","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":": \n: >: > HELP!!!\n: >: > my wife has informed me that she wants a convertible for her next car.\n\n\n: >: FYI, just last week the PBS show Motor Week gave the results of what they \n: >: thought were the best cars for '93.  In the convertible category, the \n:                                                ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\n\n   (snip, snip)\n\n: Does Porsche have a patent on the \"targa\" name?\n: I mean, convertible to me means \"top down\", which the del Sol certainly\n: does NOT do.  It has the center that lifts out.  This is what i would\n: term a targa(unless Porsches was gonna sue me for doing that).  I know\n: the rear window rolls down, but i still can hardly consider this car\n: to be a convertible.\n: \n: DREW\n\nHere we go...\n\nNo, of course Porsche doesn't have a patent on the \"targa\" name.  If that were\nthe case, what would Fiat do?  I suppose that technically my del Sol is not a\n\"convertible\" in the literal sense, but it certainly classifies as an open-\ntopped car.  In addition, the rear section behind the removable top is what\nmakes my car _infinately_ safer than a convertible.\n\n(flame-retardant on ...)","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nIf this is the same as adjusting the shims between cam and valve, I have\nthe same question.  Do you buy a FULL set of shims before starting the\nadjustment process, or do you calculate the shims you need and then run\noff to the dealer in the cage to see if the right shims are in stock? \nObviously the latter would be cheaper (what do shims cost?), but are\nmeasurements of the shim need reliable enough to buy only the indicated shims?\n\nChris","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I know that there is a relationship between Fibromyalgia and deep \nsleep.  I believe that there are five levels of sleep.  I think \nthat R.E.M. sleep is the third deepest level of sleep and that \nthere are two deeper levels of sleep.  If I am in error in any of \nthis, please let me know.\n\nWhich level of sleep is thought to be deficient in people with \nFibromyalgia?  Are there any known sleep disturbances associated \nwith CFS?  What sleep disturbances (if any) are associated with \nclinical depression?  Do antidepressants correct the sleep \ndisturbances in these diseases?  Are there any good books or \nmedical journal articles about sleep disturbances and these \ndiseases?  Thank you in advance for all replies.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nAssuming you are refering to standard POTS or ground start lines:\n\nIf you are looking at loop start lines under idle conditions, the RING\nconductor is the one with approximately -48 to -52 vDC with respect to\nground while the TIP conductor is at or very near ground potential (be sure\nto reference the telco ground when taking your measurements).  \n\nIf you are dealing with ground start lines under idle conditions, the RING\nconductor will be the one with approximately -48 to -52 vDC while the TIP\nconductor would look like it's floating (you may see some potential from\nline capacitance it will bleed off over time).  Remember to use the telco\nground as your reference when making measurements. \n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nIt is true the convex algorithm is faster than a general concave\/multi outline\nalgorithm, but not tremendously faster.  I spent awhile implementing and\noptimizing both flavors, and the convex turned out about 10% faster.  This is\nall C (on HP PA-RISC the compiler got the inner loop [shooting the span] as\nfast as possible, as far as I could tell).  For any sort of game the database\nto render is known ahead of time, and can be made all convex.  Definitely the\nway to go.\n\np.s. sorry but my code CANNOT be made public domain....\n\tjesse","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nHas this video been made public?  The FBI spokesman also said they \nfirst knew of the fire when black smoke started pouring out, but\nlater said that *three* different FBI agents saw B-D members starting\nthe fires.\n\nAlso the FBI claims to have listening devices (bugs) in the compound.  \nWill they make public the tapes of what the B-D said?\n\n\nWell sealing the initial search warrent, keeping the media miles away,\nnot letting the B-D talk to the public, making contradictory statements,\nnot releasing the vidio & tapes are not steps to ensure public confidence \nin their actions.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I need some help in tracking down a dvi viewer for X. I have xdvi but we\nhave not got the X libraries and includes installed- so \n\t\ti) is there a way around this, as we are trying to avoid\n\t\t   installing the stuff (space is at a premium).\n\t\tii)would someone be prepared to make the binaries\n\t\t   available. We have a HP700 and a HP382.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Yes, we Put any book on disk for you. Fast and accurate. \n\nWe can also put any typewritten or printed articles, thesis, term papers,\netc. on disk for you.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nAn even better strategy is to leave less of a buffer between you and\nthe car in front, but enough to manuver around it.  Keep the bike in\n1st gear with the clutch handle squeezed in (how's that for\nengaged\/disengaged?), until there are two cars stopped behind you.\n\nWhen the next BDI cager comes screaching in, simply ride up along side\nof the car in front of you.  You don't need to panic and do it, or you\nwill pop the clutch and stall the engine.  Do is smoothly, just\nrapidly.  The cage in front of you will provide MUCH better protection\nthan anything else (particularly empty road).\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"5 Apr 93\n  MOSCOW (UPI) --\n        ...\n        ``It's horrible. People are trying to get their wives and children\nout, men are leaving their defense positions, it's total anarchy,'' said\nMekhman Aliyev, a spokesman for the Azerbaijani president.\n\n        Aliyev said 210 people -- three-quarters of them civilians, the rest\ngovernment soldiers -- had been killed and 200 wounded in the assault by\nArmenian fighters.\n\n\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"The following announcement is from the Bosnia Task Force, USA.\n\n\n          Yusuf Islam (formerly Cat Stevens of London) and Muhammad Ali\n           (former heavyweight champion) will be the grand marshals of\n                  the Washington rally on Saturday, May 15, 93\n                   -------------------------------------------\n\n\n                Twenty to Twenty Five thousands are expected to march\n                    demanding an end to genocide in BOSNIA\n                   \n\n          Rally will begin 1pm from Lafayette Park in front of White House\n          ----------------------------------------------------------------\n\nIn the largest planned rally ever by Muslims in America, the Bosnia Task\nForce, USA has called upon all Muslims in the USA to hold rallies\nthrough out the USA. Muslims in 400 miles radius are, however, requested\nto come to Washington D.C. for a rally in front of the White House.\n\nThe rally will start sharp at 1pm on May 15, 93 in front of the White House and\nwill March to Capitol Hill. All are requested to be in Lafayette park by noon.\n\nIt is going to be a big rally. More than 20,000 persons are expected to\nparticipate. New York is targeting 50 buses. People as far as Texas and Arizona\nare coming. Never in Washington's history have so Many Muslims have marched\nbefore. Are you ready for this historical event? Call every one you know to\nbring them to rally.\n\nOur Demands:\n------------\n\n1) Recognize the genocidal nature of the Milosevic regime and its aggression.\n2) Lift the arms embargo from the Bosnian government.\n3) provide the Bosnian government with arms for self-defence.\n4) Use NATO air power to enforce the will and conscience of the World community\non Serbia.\n5)Begin the War Crime tribunals immediately.\n\nIF YOU ARE NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM! \n\n\nMembers of the Bosnia Task Force, USA:\nISNA, ICNA, Ministry of Imam W. Deen Mohammed, The National Community,\nBosnia Action Committee of Chicago, Majlis Shura New York, American\nMuslim Council, Michigan Islamic Council, Balkan Muslim Association.\nPhone: (312) 829-0087                       Fax: (312) 829-0089\n------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nSomebody in comp.multimedia was also having trouble using a Spigot in his\nLC III. It turned out he needed the latest version of ScreenPlay (1.1.1),\nwhich fixed things.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nUm...\n\n1) Your Professor if just plain wrong.  Although blue LEDs are one heck of\na lot less efficient than red ones.\n2) \"Typical visible light LEDs\" don't really exist.  LEDs have a fairly\nnarrow region of transmittence.  (Since the Fermi energy around either side\nof the band gap falls off exponentially, blah, blah...)\n\n\nYou might want to check the copyright date on that. :-)\n\nBlue LEDs most certainly do exist, I've got a bunch at work.  Cree Research\nmakes them (probably along with other companies...  Cree is big in\nmaterials science, though; they advertise in the stuff like Physics Today,\netc.).  You can buy them from JameCo (I think), DigiKey (definitely), and\nplenty of other distributors.\n\nActually, these days you _can_ get a \"typical visible light\" LED -- it's\ncalled a \"rainbow LED\", and I've forgotten who makes it (they advertise in\nEDN and many of the other trade rags, though).  It combines a reg, green,\nand blue LED all on one chip (and has four leads).  Nifty device, although\nit's probably fairly expensive.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I've had similar problems downloading using WinCIM, I discovered that if I\ndisabled data compression on my modem, it works fine.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Here is a press release from the U.S. Department of Energy.\n\n Energy Secretary Hails President's Plan For Alternative Fuel\nVehicles\n To: National Desk, Environment and Energy Reporters\n Contact: Larry Hart of the U.S. Department of Energy, 202-586-5806\n\n   WASHINGTON, April 21  -- Secretary of Energy\nHazel R. O'Leary today said President Clinton's Executive Order on\nAlternative Fuels will make the federal government a \"driving force\nbehind efforts to increase the availability of both alternative\nfuel vehicles and fuel supplies.\"\n   President Clinton signed the order today, which calls for\nfederal purchases of alternative fuel vehicles in numbers over the\nnext three years at least 50 percent higher than those called for\nin the Energy Policy Act of 1992.\n   President Clinton also announced that Texas Land Commissioner\nGary Mauro will head up the Federal Fleet Conversion Task Force to\nadvise O'Leary on implementation of the Executive Order.\n   \"I am delighted that I will be working with Gary Mauro to make\nthis happen,\" O'Leary said.  \"As Land Commissioner, Gary Mauro has\nhelped make Texas a national leader in converting the state fleet\nto alternative fuels, and has been a tireless proponent of natural\ngas vehicles in speeches across the country.\"\n   The task force is to issue a report within 90 days recommending\na plan and schedule of implementation.\n   \"The Department of Energy and all of us in government must lead\nby example if the option of alternative fuels is going to become a\npractical, affordable choice for fleet owners across the country,\"\nO'Leary said.  \"Increased use of domestically-produced alternative\nfuels means reducing pollution while creating jobs.  We believe\nthat energy efficiency, protecting the environment, and a healthy\neconomy are complimentary goals.\"\n   O'Leary said that plans call for the Department of Energy to\ncoordinate the agencies' five-year purchase plans, help with\nfunding for extra purchase or conversion costs, and work with GSA\nto encourage development of the fuel infrastructure needed to make\nfleet conversions practical.\n   Under the order, the Department of Energy will also be working\nwith states, local governments and industry to coordinate vehicle\npurchases and encourage manufacturers and fuel suppliers to make\nalternative fuel vehicles and alternative fuels more widely\navailable.\n -30-","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I would like to know the regular\/international phone number of a computer\nsupplier called \"Computer Component Source\". Their free phone number is\n1-800-356-1227. This number is no use to customers outside the US.\nI wish to upgrade the power supply on a couple of Mac Plus computers and would\nlike to make contact with \"Computer Component Source\".","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
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{"text":"I replied to this query via e-mail, but I think there are some\nissues that are worth discussing in public.\n\n\nI would recommend you to take a look at\n\n1) your dictionary\n2) alt.atheism FAQ files\n\nto notice that atheism is _not_ a belief system, and what is common\nto all atheists is not a belief, but a _lack of belief in deities_.\nI cannot imagine how anyone could do research on atheism without\npaying careful attention to this issue. \n\n\nIMHO, this is a poor method to do any real survey, although I'm sure the\nreplies might keep you amused for hours.\n\n\nNo, I do _not_ know what you mean. If you are surveying our individual\nphilosophies, fine, but that's not strictly atheism. Atheism is not\njust another, godless version of the theistic explanations for life,\nthe universe and everything. It is not a belief system, and it could\nhardly be called a philosophical system.\n\nOnce more: Atheism is characterised by lack of belief in deities. \nDo not twist the meaning, or assume that we have some kind of\nphilosophy we all agree on.\n\nSome comments on your questions:\n\n\nI would also like to hear more about this. Have we been able to 'convert'\nanyone?\n\n\nThis question contains a contradiction in terms. _Beliefs_ \ncannot be acquired rationally - if they could, they would not be \nbeliefs! You also seem to have rather strange ideas of how people become\natheists - those who are alienated from religion do not necessarily\nbecome atheists, they just think very little about religion. It seems\nit requires a considerable time of honest inquiry to find out that\nreligions are actually intellectually dishonest virtual realities.\n\nThose who have never had beliefs will certainly find this question\nquite odd - how can lack of belief be acquired? When did I acquire\nlack of belief in the Easter Bunny? (I did believe in Santa, though ;-))\n\n\nThis question does not make any sense, since atheism does not deal with\nthese issues - it is not a worldview, or a philosophy, or a belief system.\n\nSigh, why haven't I seen a good, well-thought survey in the Usenet\nfor three years... and what is the point of doing surveys in the net,\nanyway? Just to abstract some opinions?\n\nPetri\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I want to buy a LCII ( yes LCII not LCIII). None of the dealer seems to have\nthem anymore. Does anybody know where I can buy this beast?. \nI wanted 4\/80 with standard keyboard package.\n\nPlease let me know.\nthanx\n\n--Aravind S. Melligeri\t\t\t\t\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nSystem Administrator\t\t       |\t\t      asm@mevax.psu.edu\nDept. of Mechanical Engg.\t       |\t\t      off: 814-865-2062\nPennsylvania State Univ. \t       |\t\t      res: 814-867-5922\t","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n   And it has worked again. Pena went 3 for 3 last night against Colorado.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Come back ten years from now and look at the careers of Juan Gonzalez vs. Mark McGuire,  and then tell us how bogus the Juanderful one's 1992 HR title was.  I'd say that by 2003,  Juan will be preparing his HOF acceptance speech while the voters will be saying \"Mark McWho?\"\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"My theory is that Koresh was seriously wounded in the initial gunbattle\nand died on Day 9 of the siege.  On Day 11 of the siege he rose from the\ndead and periodically appeared to his followers and the FBI over the\nnext 40 days.  Living with someone who's risen from the dead isn't easy,\nas Timmy Baterman's father in *Pet*Sematary* could attest, so after 40\ndays they did what Baterman did--shot themselves and burned the place\nto the ground.\n\nConsistent with the facts, isn't it?  Did anyone actually *see* Koresh\nbetween Day 9 and Day 11?","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"We're about to have our first baby, and have a few questions that we\ndont seem to be able to get answered to our satisfaction. \n\nReguarding having a baby boy circumsized, what are the medical pros\nand cons?  All we've heard is 'its up to the parents'.\n\nHow about the pregnant woman sitting in a tub of water?  We've heard \nstories of infection, etc.  How about after the water has broken?\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\tBaltimore Baseblazers? Where the hell did you come up with that? The\nOrioles are not a base-stealing team except for Anderson. Besides we would\nnever call them anything but the Baltimore Orioles. Why? The ballpark has\nall these orthologically (spelling error?) correct BALTIMORE ORIOLES all\nover the place. I bet you thought the bird is just an oriole. It's not. The\nbird was named after Lord Baltimore when Maryland was founded. They're\ncalled Baltimore Orioles. But the post is just a joke so why do I care what\na non-O's fan thinks of us? But I still wonder where Baseblazers came from.\nSan Diego Padres, now there's a name that needs to be changed. How is padre\nbeing used? As \"Father\" ie priest or \"father\" ie parents?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I just bought a little gizmo that is supposed to be installed \"in\nseries with the tip or ring lines\" of the phone wire. Which ones are\nthose? Suppose I am holding a regular phone wire, such that the little\nplastic tooth (on the little plastic square thing with the naked lead\nends that you plug into the phone) is facing down, and away from me.\nWhich of the 4 wires that I see is the \"tip\" and which is the \"ring\"?\nPlease reply to mlevin@husc8.harvard.edu.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I agree about the durability of the old TH400 trannies from GM.  While I \nnever intentionally slamed my '68 Firebird 400 ci Conv. into gear, I would leave \nthe trannie in Low (read 1st), grab hold, hit the pedal, and once the tires \ngrabbed, take off.  When I reached about 57-60mph the turbo 400 Auto would \nshift to S (read 'super' or 2nd) and leave about 10 to 15 foot of double \nstripped rubber on the ground.  Most everyone I knew at the time was quite \nimpressed with 'peeling' out at 60 MPH.  The trannie held up just fine.\nMotor mounts would last about a year until I tied the motor down with large\nchains.  Oh yea,FYI:    Pontiac 400 ci bored 0.04 over   \n                        Large Valve heads\n                        Holley 650 Spread bore\n                        Crain 'BLAZER' cam (don't remember the specs)\n                        PosiTrac, Hooker headers, Dual exhaust\n                        Get this (Conv., leather seats, power windows\n                                  power top, AC, Cruise etc.) \n\n  Oh yea, I also pulled the 'Cocktail shakers' (weights) from the front\n  and removed the lead pellet from the accelerator pedal. (Damn US regulations)   \n OH, HOW I MISS THAT CAR!!! \n  -- 0-60 under 6.7 sec  and about 6 to 14 mpg (well I don't miss the mpg)\n  -- front wheels 4\" off the ground with three quick jabs at the pedal.\n  -- bent pushrods, stripped rocker studs,  every 6-12 months \n     ( I really wonder what kind of rev's I was turning - no tach)\nRe: Improvements in Automatic Transmissions\n  Anyone seen one of these lately?  I'd buy it back in a sec!!!","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Hi folks,\n\nI borrowed a VHS tape from a friend and it has a warning in the begining saying\nthat attempts to copy the tape will result in destroying the copy and the\noriginal. I found this unbelievable as playing and recording are two different\nprocesses. However, I've never seen this tape being sold anywhere so I don't \nwant to take the chance even it's small.\n\nAnyone has experience in this kind of self-destructing video tapes?\n\nThanks in advance.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
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{"text":"\nI don't know about C-5's,  but on C-130's  which are regularly used\nfor Medium  haul  Personnel transport by the Army,  only have a\nfunnel and a garden hose  in the aft.  The female personnel\nhate long trips in the box cars.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\"traction control\" as far as the optional feature that one buys with\ncars is not the same thing at all as a torque sensing differential.\n\na torque sensing differential is a type of LSD, but not all LSD's\nare torque sensing.  viscous coupled differentials (as opposed to\nviscous couplings) are rotational sensing, not torque sensing.\nfor that matter, so are \"traction control\" systems that use ABS\nsensors and pulse braking.\n\nthen there are the older posi-tracs and whatever which i am not\nfamiliar with the workings.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\n\nCHEERS Brandon.  That's the best suggestion I have seen that.  !!!","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nFrom his Topps \"rookie\" year (as coach) card (74-75):\n\"For the past couple of seasons, Don has been the highly-successful\n coach of the Rochester Americans of the AHL, but he is getting his\n first shot at an NHL job with the Bruins.  Named Coach of the Year\n in the AHL the last two years, and he aims to make the Bruins a\n rough team again, as they were a couple of years back.  Although\n he played 16 seasons of professional hockey, Don never played a\n regular-season NHL game.  He did appear in one playoff game for\n Boston in 1956-57.  Don's brother, Dick, played two seasons in the\n NHL with Boston and Philadelphia.\"\n\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nThrow away the FAQ.   We can all just ask Mr O'Dwyer, since he can\ndefine the thing that the rest of us only talk about.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nWhy not try to eliminate discrimination from existing laws instead of\ntrying to add discrimination that favors your group.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\tActually, no I don't have a tape drive.  In the event of a total\nhard disk failure, I reinstall the apps from originals, and restore the data\nfrom the backups I keep of that.  With upwards of 100Mb of stuff on my hard\ndisk, there is no way I'm going to try and back it all up without a tape\ndrive. :)  Would be nice to have one though!\n\n\n\tMaybe, maybe not.  Today it doesn't happen as often (I would hope),\nbut then if a BIOS is buggy and the user gets an upgrade, the BIOS\ninformation is going to change, at least the date anyway.  Tagging the BIOS\nmanufacturer is still going to falsely tag those users who upgrade the\nmotherboard.  This type of upgrade doesn't require a hard disk\nbackup\/restore.\n\n\n\tAs long as it wasn't done too terribly often.  Otherwise I think it\nwould get annoying and the user would go looking for other software.\n\n\n\n\tOf course not.  If something gets corrupted and my app needs to be\nreinstalled, the *worst* thing I want that software telling me is \"this\nsoftware has already been registered to <blank> and it is against the law to\ninstall it on other machines.\"  Or something similar; Access for Windows\ndoes this and it only requires a click on \"OK\" to go away.  Pretty\nnon-intrusive, but it gets the point across.\n\n\n\tThis is a great idea.  I like the key system that some shareware\nproducts use.  The only problem is that it will be difficult for big\nsoftware companies to implement this without it getting very\ncost-ineffective for them and more of a burden than a benefit to the users.\n\n--\nSteve Madsen\nsjmadsen@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThe paucity of this line of argument is that it is provably false.\n\nTexas state officials COULD and DID investigate child abuse charges.\nThey COULD and DID apprehend Koresh peaceably.  The COULD and DID\nimpound his weapons for the duration.  And Koresh was NOT CONVICTED.\n\nNote that child abuse and similar accusations are STATE matters, not\nfederal.  The state COULD and DID handle them properly and peaceably,\nand furthermore violating no one's constitutional rights in the process.\n\nSo maybe the best way for BATF\/FBI to save people is to mind their \nown fucking business.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":": Well, here goes.  After lurking for a LONG time, I'll announce myself. Yes, I'm\n: the enemy. The enemy that also happens to ride an \"arrest me red\" 90 VFR. \n\nI don't generally consider police officers \"the enemy\".  I hope you don't\nthink bikers in general have that attitude.  Stereotypes suck either way.\n\n:  I'll entertain questions but my answers will reflect Georgia law and may not   \n:  apply in your state.  \n:   \n:   P.S.  Anyone got a Nomex suit for sale?\n\nYou shouldn't get flamed for being a cop.  I can't promise you won't because\nthere are jerks on this newsgroup same as any other, but if you've been \nlurking for a while you already know that.  You might get lots of flames\nif you try to convince people that you know more than them just because you\nhave a badge.  And of course, you will get a moderate amount of flamage\njust for expressing an opinion, no matter what the opinion is *somebody*\nwill flame you for it.\n   So, have you ordered any official DoD paraphenalia yet?  Wristwatch,\nbandana, patches?  Tell your boss your going undercover with a real\nbadass biker gang. :-)","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nExactly.  You took the words right out of my mouth, Ron :-)\n\n-- ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n   Granted.  Pomeroy, Bell, Weinberg, 1967.  \"National Institute of\nMental Health Paper 12353, ''Patterns of Adjusment in Deviant\nPopulations.''\"  Cited as part of the National Institute of Mental\nHealth Task Force on Homosexuality.\n\n   Pomery concluded, \"The Kinsey statistic of 37% is probably higher\nthan is realistic.  According to these estimates, 33% is a more\nrealistic figure.\"\n\n   (I went out and bought LOTS of Bell & Weinberg this weekend... can\nyou tell?)\n\n   Also, The Janus Report on Sexual Behavior (Samuel S. Janus, Ph.D.\nand Cynthia L. Janus, M.D., John Wiley & Sons (pub), 1992) has the\nfollowing:\n\nTable 3.14\nHave you ever had a homosexual experience?\n          Men.    Women.\nN=        1,335   1,384\nYes       22%      17%\nNo        78%      83%\n\nTable 3.15\nHow often have you had homosexual contact?\n                      Men   Women\nN=                    294     235\na. Once                5%      6%\nb. Occasionally       56%     67%\nc. Frequently         13%      6%\nd. Ongoing            26%     21%\n\nActive (c. + d.)      39%     37%\n\n39% of 22% is 9%.  This number is consistent with Kinsey, Pomery,\nGebard (1953), Bell & Weinberg (1967, 1974), and Rice (1987) in the\nfinding that 9% of the male population is actively homosexual, with\nan further breakdown (Bell & Wienberg, 1978) of 4% exclusively so and\n5% self-identifying themselves as \"bisexuals.\"\n\n   (pp 69, 70)\n\n   As for debunking Kinsey, the following article is an important\nlesson for everyone to read:\n\nWas Kinsey a Fake and a Pervert?\nby Philip Nobile\n\n     Far out on the grassy knoll of sexology, there is a cult of\nprochastity researchers who claim that the late Alfred Kinsey was a\nsecret sex criminal, a Hoosier Dr. Mengele, who bent his numbers\ntoward the bisexual and the bizarre in a grand conspiracy to queer the\nnation and usher in an era of free sex with kids.  \n\n     But what really riles these critics is Kinsey's towerin~ cultural\ninfluence.  His bestselling surveys-- Sexual Behavior in the Human Male\n(1948) and Sexual Behavior in the Human Female (1953)-- tore the\nsheets off the country's erogenous zones and undermined midcentury\nmorals.  His charts and graphs, based on detailed histories of 12,000\nmen and women, demonstrated that practices generally considered rare\nand\/or 'abnormal'-- masturbation, extramarital relations,\nhomosexuality, and even barnyard bestiality, were as American as\nstrawberry shortcake.  \n\n     Yet for a hard core of these heterosexual supremacists, aided and\nabetted by Pat Buchanan and the religious right, the zoology professor\nfrom Indiana University remains the evil genius behind the sex\nrevolution and a target for character assassination.  \n\n     Judith Reisman, the prosecution's expert witness at the\nMapplethorpe trial in Cincinnati, is the leader of the anti- Kinsey\nrevisionists as well as his Inspector Javert.  In 1983, during a radio\ninterview with Pat Buchanan in Washington, Reisman accused Kinsey of\nhaving been inolved in \"the vicious genital torture of hundreds of\nchildren.\"  She speculated that he kidnapped and drugged ghetto boys in\norder to carry out clandestine orgasm tests.  \n\n     Now, seven years later, Reisman has revived her charges in a\ndifferent book, titled Kinsey, Sex and Fraud, just released by the\nsmall and religiously oriented Huntington House in Lafayette,\nLouisiana.  Her coauthor is Ed Eichel, a Manhattan psychotherapist who\nhas invented a new style of intromission (\"the coital alignment\ntechnique\") that supposedly triggers simultaneous orgasm with\nconsiderable regularity and thereby increases compatibilty between the\nsexes.  In the book Eichel contends that \"Kinsey deliberately cooked\nthe gay stats because, being an oddball himself, he wanted to advance\nthe 'denormalization' of heterosexuality.\"  \n\n     If the authors are right, then the world- famous Kinsey Reports\nare, as the introduction boldly asserts, \"the most egregious example\nof scientific deception in this century.\"  And if they are wrong,\nKinsey, Sex and Fraud is a shameful smear.\n\n     Despite the less- than- stellar credentials of Kinsey's\ndetractors, legends are not what they used to be.  Martin Luther King\nmay have committed plagiarism.  Bruno Bettelheim slapped young mental\npatients around.  Father Bruce Ritter, the founder of Covenant House,\npreyed on runaway boys.  Closer to Kinsey, Masters and Johnson have\nbeen disgraced for faking it in one way or another.  \n\n     So it should not surprise anybody that Kinsey, who filmed strange\npeople having sex in his attic, may have had skeletons in the closet.\nThe problem is that Reisman does not seem to have the intellectual\nprowess to pull off the job.  \n\n     As a thinker, the woman is no Madame Curie.  The 55-year-old\nformer songwriter for Captain Kangaroo has little professional\nstanding, no current university position, and no peer-review\npublications, though her creative 1983 resume was padded with phantom\naccomplishments.  For instance, it listed a book as her own-- Take Back\nthe Night: Women on Pornography-- that was actually written and edited\nby others.  Then there is her Ph.D. in Speech Communication from\nCleveland's Case Western Reserve University.  Although Reisman has no\nbachelor's degree, Case granted her a master's in 1976 and a doctorate\nin 1979.  Her dissertation was on the commentaries of a local\noctagenarian TV commentator.  But on the resume, Reisman gave this\npiece of scholarship a fancy Hautes Etudes moniker-- to wit: \"The\nApplication of Aristotelian and Systems Analytic Theory to Mass Media\nEffects.\"\n\n     When Reisman burst into prominence on Buchanan's program, it was\nlove at first sight for Al Regnery, the outwardly anti- \nporn head of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention in Ed Meese's\nJustice Department.  Regnery was a young law-and-order conservative and\namateur social philosopher who wanted to help change the sexual\nclimate of the United States.  \n\n     After Reisman's sensational radio session, the sexual equivalent\nof Joe McCarthy's Wheeling speech, Regnery summoned \nher to meetings to discuss mutual interests.  First he tried to shovel\nher $800,000 for a quasi-Frankenstein study that was going to measure\nthe brain chemicals of men and boys who looked at arousing\nphotographs.  Guffaws on Capitol Hill killed the original proposal, but\n$734,000 in govemment money went to Reisman anyway for plan B- a probe\nof child images in the cartoons Playboy, Penthouse, and Hust\nler.  (Incredibly, this grant surpassed the entire budget of the\nattorney general's pornography commission.) \n\n     When the overpriced and oversold project was completed in 1986,\nit was immediately shelved by an embarrassed Justice Department.  That\nspring, Regnery resigned from his post only days before the New\nRepublic carried this admission that he had kept porno magazines\naround the house.  \n\n     Notwithstanding the six-figure humiliation, Reisman went on to\nscratch out a niche on the ioony right.  As the darling of the sex\ncranks, she deplores subversive phenomena like shaved genitalia in\nmen's magazines and blames AIDS on gays.  Kinsey, Sex and Fraud is\nReisman's latest grasp for respectability.  Pat Buchanan, of course, is\nputting his Krugerrands on Reisman's ultimate vindication.  \"This book\nis social dynamite,\" he says in a blurb an the front cover.  He\nespecially liked the antigay parts.  Smacking his lips in his\nsyndicated column, he declared, \"It may just blow the sewer cap off\nKinsey's monumental reputation, reestablish homosexuality as a 1-in-50\naberration, expose the Gay Rights movement as a paper tiger, and even\nput at risk the enormous sex industry built upon Dr. Kinsey's\n'research.'\"\n\n     The blockbuster charge at the heart of the cluttered and\nrepetilive j'Accuse is that Kinsey was a sex-mad pedophile who\nmolested little boys in Nazi-type experiments and recorded their\norgasms in his male volume\/ A similar charge was first recited at the\nFifth World Conference on Sexology in Jerusalem in 1981 to no effect\nbefore being recycled by Reisman for Buchanan in Washington in 1983.\n\n     Here is how Reisman and Eichel repackaged the Mengele business in\nKinsey, Sex and Fraud:\n\n     Mengele-like 'scientific' experiments on infants and children\nwere the basis for Kinsey's conclusions...  on childhood sexuality.\n\n     Somewhere and sometime in the course of the project, Kinsey\nappears to have directed experimental sex research on several hundred\nchildren aged from two months to almost 15 years.\n\n     This, of course, would implicate Kinsey and his team in\npromoting, and perhaps participating in, the criminal activity.\n\n     In the opinion of this book's authors, that is exactly how part\nof Kinsey's child sexuality research took place.\n\n\n     Donning his psychohistorian's cap and citing an FBI manual on\nchild molesters as a guide, Eichel casually diagnoses Kinsey as a\nhomosexual pedophile with the perfect motive for doing exactly as\n \n\n     [Kinsey] placed himself in professional and nonprofessional\npositions where he had access to young boys, such as Y.M.C.A.  camp\ncounselor, boys' club leader, and Boy Scout leader-- activities he\nkept up 'during his college and graduate yeaers, and even after his\nmarriage.\"\n \n\n     As crude as his analysis seems, Eichel was more than happy to\nelaborate even further in a recent phone interview.  \"If you've ever\nbeen around boy- lovers, pedophiles, they are absolutely compulsive,\"\nhe averred.  \"Everything in his life is directed at getting children.  I\ndidn't mention this in our book but the caption under Kinsey's high\nschool picture was a quote from Hamlet: 'Man delights me not, no,\n[sic] nor woman neither.' What do you think they were picking up on?\" \n\n     Before weighing what Reisman and Eichel pass off as proof of\nKinsey's sex crimes, something must be said about Kinsey's scientific\nmodus operandi.  He was a fiendish collector.  As a young zoologist with\na D.Sc.  from Harvard, he collected 4 million gall wasps and 1.5\nmillion related insects.  When he switched to sex exploration after\nagreeing to teach a marriage Course at Indiana University in 1938, he\nwas no less curious or acquisitive.  Nothing that mammals did in the\nrealm of reproduction was foreign to him.  He compiled masses of erotic\nmaterials including toilet wall inscriptions from male and female\njohns that highlighted differences in sexual psychology and flms of\nmating in 14 species of animals that showed an amazing similarity in\noral eroticism.  \n\n     Naturally, the sexual response of children, the genesis of eros,\nfascinated him.  It was impossible to understand the sexual behaviors\nof adults without examining their origins.  And so with the fervor of\nhis bughunting days, Kinsey collected information about kids, though\neven his worst enemies-- until Reisman and Eichel-- refrained from\nlinking him personally to his data on preadolescent sex.  \n\n     Kinsey said plainly in the male volume that he got information on\nthe sex life of young boys from people who had sex with them: \"Some of\nthese adults are technically trained persons who have kept diaries or\nother records which have been put at our disposal.\"  Although he\ngathered much boyhood data from the memories of his subjects and the\nobservations of parents and nursery school teachers, he treated the\ndocumentary materia! of the pedophiles as pure gold.  There was nothing\nlike it in the literature.  \n\n     Kinsey's main source, a 63-year-old govemment worker, was also\nthe most unforgettable character he had ever met.  This man, whose\nhistory took 17 hours to log, had sex with over 600 boys and 200 girls\nas well as 17 of 33 family members including his father and\ngrandmother.  A sexual hobbyist and passionate record-keeper, he gave\nKinsey detailed accounts of orgasms that he observed in preadolescent\nboys.  Relying on the man's meticulous research, which involved\nfollowing some boys for as long as 16 years, Kinsey was able to\nidentify for the first time six distinct types of male orgasm-- some\nof which involved violent contortions at the peak of release-- as well\nas the speed and the capacity of climax.  \n\n     What Freud had only imagined about childhood sexuality, Kinsey\nhad reported as fact.  Children were indeed erotic beings from the\ncradle.  \"These data on the sexual activities of younger male provide\nan important substantiation of the Freudian view of sexuality as a\ncomponent that is present in the human animal from earliest infancy,\"\nhe concluded without raising eyebrows in 1948.  \n\n     Then along came Judith Reisman.  Ignorng the legitimacy of\nKinsey's inquiry, she beheld the ghost of Mengele in Bloomington.  She\nwas appalled by the thought of infant ecstasy and read torture in the\nportrayals of prepubertal orgasm rendered by the government worker.\nAnd she dared to say that Kinsey was a sex criminal.  \n\n     Well, was he or wasn't he? Let's go to the text.  There is no\nevidence in Kinsey, Sex and Fraud-- no witnesses, no paper, noteven a\ntrace of hearsay-- that implicates Kinsey in either planning or\npartaking in child sex experiments.  After 12 years on the trail,\nReisman has uncovered just two sources to back up her original charge-\n- amazingly enough, Kinsey himself and Wardell Pomeroy, Kinsey's\ncoauthor on both reports, to whom Reisman has never spoken.  It turns\nout that her whole case rests on a few passages in the male volume\niand in Pomeroy's 1972 biography titled Dr. Kinsey and the Institute\nfor Sex Research.\n\n     After frisking every \"the\" and \"and\" in both books, Reisman came\nup with what she believes are \"smoking\" sentences.  To establish\nKinsey's alleged role in the planning, she says that \"there is a hint\"\nin the fifth chapter of the male volume that Kinsey \"directed\" the\norgasm studies on kids.  She cites his tell-tale quote from a critic of\narmchair psychoanalysis demanding that \"writers...test their\ntheories...by empirical study and statistical procedures.\"  Then she\ncombines this quote with Kinsey's statement that some of the\nobservations of his pedophile sources \"were continued over periods of\nmonths or years until the individuals were old enough to make it\ncertain that true orgasm was involved.\"  \n\n     Putting two and two together-- Kinsey's empiricism and lengthy\nexperimentation-- she arrives at her hint.  But realizing this dog\nwould not hunt, she devoted but a single paragraph to Kinsey's\nsupposed planning before shifting to the issue of his personal\ninvolvement.  As for the alleged participation, after poring over\nPomeroy's biography, Reisman found several hidden clues suggesting\nKinsey's likely hands-on approach to kiddie sex.  Here the chain of\nreasoning is more complex.  She points out that Kinsey was interested\nin clitoral measurements, collecting sperm and filming sex in his\nattic.  Since Kinsey did indeed mislead Indiana University about the\npurpose of his cinematography-- he said that he was filming \"animal\nsex\"-- Reisman asserts that a \"similar misrepresentation may yet apply\nto Kinsey's child sex experiments.\"  Catch the \"may\"!\n\n     Reisman was also struck by Kinsey's doubting Thomas attitude\ntoward the never before recorded climax of female rabbits: \"Kinsey,\naccording to Pomeroy, was the type of person who needed to see things\nfor himself.  Pomeroy gave the example of orgasm in the female rabbit.\nBecause he had not personally witnessed this event, Kinsey had\ndifficulty in accepting its reality, even on the strength of testimony\nfrom a distinguished scientist.  How then did Kinsey testify to the\nactuality of orgasm in a 5-month-old infant from the mere 'history' of\na sex offender?\" (But, of course, he did not: he depended on their\nrecords.) \n\n     From this fantastic alchemy of conjecture mixed with clitorides,\nsperm, attic cumshots, and climax-in-cottontail has Reisman defamed\nthe legendary Kinsey.\n\n     Paul Gebhard succeeded Kinsey as the director of the Kinsey\nInstitute and now lives in retirement outside Bloomington.  Reached by\ntelephone, Gebhard defended the pedophile connection and denied\nReisman's nasty imputations.  \"I don't understand the resistance of\npeople like Reisman to studying the sexuality of children,\" Gebhard\nsaid more in exasperation than anger.  \"That is where sex begins.  We\nwere happy to take data wherever we found it.  Even though pedophiles\ncommit criminal acts, they are usually not violent folks.  They\nwouldn't be very successful if they were.  One of our best sources was\na headmaster of a boys' school who maintained a kind of alumni club\nand sometimes went to the weddings of his former students.  As for\ndirecting experiments, that's absurd.  We never told any of our\nsubjects what to do.  lt was against our principles.  Almost all of the\npedophile material was retrospective anyway.  Nor did we ever conduct\nsex experiments with children ourselves.  That would have been highly\ninappropriate.\"  \n\n     I asked Gebhard if Kinsey had ever seen a child in a sexual\nsituation.  \"I think a mother once brought in a little girl who humped\nher teddy bear and Kinsey watched it.\"  \n\n     As for Kinsey's sex life, it is still shrouded in\nconfidentiality.  He was married to the same woman for 35 years and\nfathered four children.  Apparently, there are no huge sexual\nrevelations, although rumors of homosexuality have persisted without\nconfirmation through the years.  Gebhard took his boss's history back\nin the '40s, but he refuses to discuss what he knows.  \"We never\ndivulge anything about anybody's history, whether dead or alive,\" he\nsays.  \n\n     Reisman said no to an interview for this article on the grounds\nthat I had once worked for Penthouse-- not to mention the fact that we\nhave been debating each other in various forums for the past five\nyears.  In keeping with our contentious history, she took a swipe at me\nin her book for continuing \"the Kinsey practice of euphemizing\nincest.\"  My offense was using the biblical variant \"lying with a near\nrelative\" in a 1977 article on the subject of incest.  As a synonym for\nintercourse, \"lying with\" appears eight times in Genesis.  \n\n     Ed Eichel is a different story.  Though seemingly obsessed by\nKinsey like his coauthor, he was friendly in long conversations.  He\ntold me that he began to smell a big baised agenda in sexology when he\nwas a student in New York University's Human Sexuality program in the\nearly '80s.  \"It was literally a gay studies program for heterosexuals,\"\nhe says.\n\n     Around 1985, Eichel came upon Reisman's critique of Kinsey and\nthe conspiracy theory started to sink in: the sex establishment was\nruled by a Kinseyan bisexual bund advocating the overthrow of the\nheterosexual norm.  No wonder he was having such a rough time promoting\nthe joy of simultaneous orgasm-- anything that enhanced sexual\ncompatibility between men and women inevitably raised objections.\n\n     Eventually, Eichel exchanged philosophical fluids with Reisman,\nand from this union Kinsey, Sex and Fraud was born.  Eichel's main\ncontribution to the book is discovery and analysis of a Kinsey\nconspiracy that supposedly seeks \"the establishment of bisexuality as\nthe balanced sexual orientation for normal, uninhibited people\" which,\nby destroying the traditional family structure and normal sexual\nbehavior, \"would open the way for the second and more difficult step--\nthe ultimate goal of cross-generational sex (sex with children).\"  \n\n     When I pressed him for specific references to back up his\noutrageous contentions, he said weakly, \"You don't think Kinsey is\ngoing to come right out and say that everybody is basically bisexual\nand should have sex with kids, but this is implicit in the Kinsey\nreports.\"  \n\n     Meanwhile, Eichel is demanding a congressional investigation of\nKinsey and his data.  Perfect.  That's just what the country needs-- a\nHouse Un-American Sexual Activities Committee, looking under beds and\nasking people if they are now or have everbeen a reader, a sympathizer\nor-- God forbid-- a subject of Dr. Alfred Kinsey.\n\n\n         Elf !!!\n--\nelf@halcyon.com  (Elf Sternberg)","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Hello!!!\n\nThe title just about says it all.\n\nI need a list of the bugs for Motif 1.2.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":" >have no idea what's in Apple's patented ROMs. Many have modems connected.\n >How do you know all your business secrets aren't being stolen? Answer:\n >1. Because you trust Apple;\n >2. Because if any such attempt, however sophicsticated, came out, it would\ndestroy Apple's credibility forever.  ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"[discussing the use of IRQ 7]\n\n\n\nTo put it a little differently:\n\n - IRQ 7 is the de facto standard interrupt assigned to be used by the\n   printer adapter to announce its completion of some activity.\n\n - DOS doesn't monitor IRQ 7; it uses other means to determine when it's\n   time to send out another byte to the printer.\n\n - Most (all?) (hardware) printer adapters have the ability to disable\n   the use of IRQ 7, usually by merely breaking the connection between\n   the ISA pin and the associated driver.  Other adapters control the\n   IRQ line by a tri-state driver, and by programming just leave it\n   in the high-impedence mode.\n\n - Unfortunately, there are a lot of adapter cards which use bistate\n   drivers (i.e., either assert high or assert low) for the IRQ lines\n   rather than tristate drivers (assert high, assert low, or don't\n   assert anything).  The presence of such a card on an IRQ line precludes\n   the use of that IRQ by any other adapter unless it is physically \n   disconnected by a jumper.\n\n   (Incidentally, note that there's no requirement that a card hold\n   the IRQ line low when no interrupt is desired.  If that were true\n   you would have to somehow tie down all unconnected IRQ lines, and\n   that certainly isn't a requirement.)\n\n - Non-DOS operating systems (OS\/2, NT (?), various Unices or whatever the\n   proper plural of Unix might be) require the use of IRQ 7 for performance\n   reasons.  \n\nAnd the SB16, alas, is one of the cards which uses bistate drivers.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"A little correction on my previous post about an hour ago.\nPlease replace the term 'EEPROM' with the term 'EPROM' wherever it appears.\n(Don't not why I added that extra 'E' every time.)\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Does anyone know what the standard port addresses are for COM ports 5\nthrough 8? (If there is a standard of any sort!)\n\nPlease e-mail, as I don't read this group very often.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nA harmonic of the Earth's gravitational field?  What IS a harmonic of the\nEarth's gravitational field?\n\n\n14:1 resonance with WHAT?  It's not like there's any wavelength or frequency\nto the Earth's gravitational field.  Now, there' might be some interesting\ninteractions with the Moon's tidal effect--is that what you're talking about?\n\nWhat are the physics of the situation?  The only way I can see gravitational\neffects being useful in adding energy to an object orbiting Earth is some\nsort of interaction with the moon.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nThe injury is to his fielding hand, which is good.  Unfortunately, he may\nhave some ligament damage and may require surgery, which would lay him up\nfor a while.\n\n\nApparently just a strain of some sort.  He hasn't been put on the DL, so\nit's probably just day-to-day.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Hello ,\nI need a microsoft mouse driver, but newer as 8.6 for\ngoing in dos window under ms windows, but it is must be freeware.\nI have version 7.00 .\n\t\t\t\t Tx  Mike","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":" \n \n   Actually, David, I don't think it's any more intellectually honest to\nsay there are no backdoors than to say there are backdoors, unless you've\nhad a chance to examine the algorithm and the silicon closely.  For all\nwe know, skipjack could be easily broken, or impossible to break.  And\nclearly, if skipjack is not secure, then the clipper chip is not worth much.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nShooting those .44 cal. blanks, I suspect.  Them movie guys is dangerous.\n\n\nPractice with them, I hope.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"-*----\n\n\nNo.  It follows from the fact that most Christians' choice of\ninterpretation stems from a mix of beliefs that are influenced by\nthe secular ethics of their culture and that are not fully\ndetermined by scripture.  Whether or not there is some \"right\"\ninterpretation matters not; few Christians claim the ability to\nread the mind of their god.  Dave Davis should note that it was\nMichael who first stated the importance of secular and cultural\ninfluence in this thread.  I think Michael is right in this, but\nregardless, it should be noted that this has *not* been a point\nof contention between Michael and myself. \n\nI have argued -- beyond Michael's claims -- that the Christian\nscriptures are open to so many interpretations -- including a\nwide divergence within the Christian tradition -- that even their\nmost important themes are vague.  Again, it does not matter that\nthere is some \"right\" interpretation *unless* there is a way to\ndetermine what that \"right\" interpretation is.  It is the lack of\nan objective measure, not the presumed lack of an answer, that\nputs the force behind the line I argue.\n\n\nThere are enough Christian glasses, varying over a sufficiently\nbroad range of color, that I can find a few that support my\nexample. \n\n\n\nIn my opinion, what makes Michael radical is that he fully\nacknowledges that Christian scripture and tradition fail to\ndetermine the doctrines that so many branches within Christianity\nhold dear.  He is willing to live and practice his religion\nwithin this indeterminacy, and he is willing to acknowledge that\nmuch of his understanding of things Christian is influenced by\nideas that are not purely Christian.  Those Christians I have\ncalled conservative must also interpret, but they do not\nrecognize -- or at least, are unwilling to admit -- the extent and\nimportance of this.\n\n\nI recognize that Michael is part of the tradition.  But what does\nit tell one about a tradition covering Origen, Aquinas, Jerry\nFallwell, and Jesse Jackson that it also includes Michael Siemon?\nNot very much!\n\n\n\nI think the conclusion does follow.  The purely Christian\nprinciples that Michael has are the ones he shares with others in\nthe Christian tradition or that can be derived from Christian\nscripture.  These, necessarily vague, are not enough to drive his\npolitical stances.  That one should love one's neighbor is a \npurely Christian principle.  That this means showing tolerance \nfor homosexuality is *not*.\n\nAs to these political stances, they are often at odds with what\nis commonly held in most of current Christendom, and so I \nsuspect they could be better pressed outside it.  (On the other\nhand, I can well understand the counterpoint, that these \npolitical stances become most influential when presented to \nthose who need them most.)\n\n-*----\n\nHaving barely survived the effort to finish in computer science, I\ndoubt I will attempt a more difficult field any time soon!","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I am thinking of going on a motorcycle tour in New Zealand in the\nNovember-January timeframe.\n\nThere are a few tour companies doing this, notably Beach Tours.\n\nCan anyone who has done this let me know of their experiences, both good and\nbad?\nThanks.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Ron Miller is a space artist with a long and distinguished career.  \nI've admired both his paintings (remember the USPS Solar System\nExploration Stamps last year?) and his writings on the history of\nspaceflight.  For several years he's been working on a *big* project\nwhich is almost ready to hit the streets.  A brochure from his\npublisher has landed in my mailbox, and I thought it was cool enough\nto type in part of it (it's rather long).  Especially given the Net's\nstrong interest in vaporware spacecraft...\n\n                 ==================================\n\n                         The Dream Machines:\nAn Illustrated History of the Spaceship in Art, Science, and Literature\n\n                            By Ron Miller\n                  with Foreword by Arthur C. Clarke\n\nKrieger Publishing Company\nMelbourne, Florida, USA\nOrig. Ed. 1993\nPre-publication $84.50\nISBN 0-89464-039-9\n\n\nThis text is a history of the spaceship as both a cultural and a\ntechnological phenomenon.  The idea of a vehicle for traversing the\nspace betwen worlds did not spring full-blown into existence in the\ntlatter half of theis century.  The need preceded the ability ot make\nsuch a device by several hundred years.  As soon as it was realized\nthat there were other worlds than this one, human beings wanted to\nreach them.   \n\nTracing the history of the many imaginative, and often prescient,\nattempts to solve this problem also reflects the history of\ntechnology, science, astronomy, and engineering.  Once space travel\nbecame feasible, there were many more spacecraft concepts developed\nthan ever got off the drawing board-- or off the ground, for that\nmatter.  These also are described in theis book, for the same reason\nas the pre-space-age and pre-flight ideas are:  they are all accurate\nreflections of their particular era's dreams, abilities, and\nknowledge.  Virtually every spaceship concept invented since 1500, as\nwell as selected events important in developing the idea of\nextraterrestrial travel, is listed chronologically.  The chronological\nentries allow comparisons between actual astronautical events and\nspeculative ventures.  They also allow comparisons between\nsimultaneous events taking place in different countries.  They reveal\nconnections, influences, and evolutions hitherto unsuspected.  Every\nentry is accompanied by at least one illustration.  Nearly every\nspacecraft concept is illustrated with a schematic drawing.  This\nallows accurate comparisons to be made between designss, to visualize\ndifferences, similarities, and influences.\n\nThis text will be of interest to students of astronautical history,\nand also to model builders who would be interested in the schematic\ndiagrams.   Science fiction fans as well as aviation history buffs and\nhistorians of science will also find this book to be fascinating.  The\nunique collection of illustrations makes it a visually attractive and\nvery interesting history of the spaceship.\n\nSPECIAL FEATURES\n\nIncludes scale drawings of several hundred spacecraft, both real and\nfictional\n\nContains scores of illustrations: artwork, drawings, and photos\ncontemporary with the subject.  This includes extremely rare\nillustrations from scarce books and novels, exclusive photos and\ndrawings fromSoviet spacecraft; rare stills from both famous and\nobscure science fiction films, and unpublished photographs from NASA\narchives\n\nAn index, bibliography, and appendices are included.\n\nCONTENTS\n\nPart I  The Archaeology of the Spaceship (360 B.C. to 1783 A.D.)\nPart II The invention of the Spaceship (1784-1899)\nPart III The Experimenters (1900-1938)\nPart IV The World War (1939-1945)\nPart V  The Golden Age of the Spaceship (1946-1960)\nPart VI The Dawn of the Space Age (1961 to the present)\n\nABOUT RON MILLER\n\n[The brochure has a page of stuff here; I'll try to hit the high\nspots.]\n\nFormer art director for Albert Einstein Planetarium  at Smithsonian's\nNational Air and Space Museum\n\nMember of International Association for Astronomical Arts, member of\nInternational Astronautical Association, Fellow of the British\nInterplanetary Society,  consulting editor for *Air & Space\nSmithsonian* magazine\n\nAuthor, co-author, editor, or sole illustrator on many books since\n1979, including *Space Art*, *Cycles of Fire*, *The Grand Tour*, and\nmany others, as well as many articles and papers\n\nBook jackets and interior art for over a dozen publishers \n\nContributor to IBM traveling exhibition and book *Blueprint for Space*\n\nProduction illustrator for movies *Dune* and *Total Recall*\n\nDesigner of ten-stamp set of commemorative space postage stamps for\nU.S. Postal Service in 1991 (Solar System Exploration)\n\nORDERING INFORMATION\n\nPre-publication price $84.50 before 1 May 1993\nAfterwards, price will be $112.50\n\nKrieger Publishing Company\nPO Box 9542\nMelbourne, FL 32902-9542\nUSA\nDirect order line (407)727-7270\nFax (407)951-3671\n\nAdd $5.00 for shipping by UPS within USA for first book, $1.50 for each\nadditional book.  \n\nFor foreign orders, add $6.00 for first book, $2.00 for each\nadditional.  Additional charges for airmail shipments.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nIt isn't. And I wasn't aware that this O'Hair chick was a reader of\na.a., so that doesn't support your assertion that the argument is\n\"the whole basis of a great many HERE rejecting...\".","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"How about Matt Nokes 2 run single against Ron Darling.  Was that a hit or what?  \nWhile watching the game yesterday they flashed up something regarding The\nBoss' talking about Mark Connor as bullpen coach.  He said something like it's\nMark Connor's fault that the bullpen is so horrible!!  Here we go again!! \nGeorge sticking his non-baseball nose in the baseball business.  Shut up\nGeorge, just spend the money, get the players and leave Buck and the coaches\nand players alone.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\tHeheheheh.. Sorry, Roger, I wronged you.. You're not boring ALL\nthe time..  This one is a classic. 'cordially, as always' HEHEHEHEHHE!\n\n\tAre you a jerk?\n\n\t\tDo people hate you?\n\n\t\t\tAre you no fun at parties?\n\n\tWell! Come to the ROGER MAYNARD SCHOOL OF CORDIALITY!\n\n\tWe can teach you to be 'cordial' with the best of them! Use\nsuch time honored 'cordiality' techniques as:\n\n\t1) Calling people assholes!\n\t2) Comparing them to viruses!\n\n\tFor advanced students:\n\n\t3) Comparing them to DIRTY viruses. What is a DIRTY virus,\n\t\tand how can you tell it from a clean one? We know,\n\t\tand here at the ROGER MAYNARD SCHOOL OF CORDIALITY,\n\t\twe can teach you to know, too!\n\n\tHEHEHEH.. Thanks, Roger.. This made my evening :-)","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":" \n(Deletion)\n \nWell, that is certainly different, but it looks as if there is a translation\nfound for everything. By the way, I am most surprised to hear that night and\nday move in an orbit.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Okay, here is the result of my efforts.  I'm just getting started with this\ntype of activity, so please set your flame-thowers on low.\n\nComments, corrections, suggestions, welcomed.\n\n****************************************************************************\n\nEditor, \n\nI would like to ask you and your readers a few questions that are related to\nthe \"right to keep and bear arms\", and to a greater degree, the many other\n\"rights\" that we take for granted on a daily basis. \n\n1.\tYou're sleeping at night, when you hear someone in your house.  You\ncall the police.  How will you defend yourself, should the need arise, while\nyou are waiting for the police to arive? \n\n2.\tYou are driving your family home when your car breaks down.  A \"good\nsamaritan\" stops to \"help\", when you find you and your family at gun-point or\nknife-point.  How will you defend yourself?  And your Family? \n\n3.\tYou are a woman walking alone to your car or home.  A man appears\nsuddenly with the intent to rape you.  How will you defend yourself?  Are you\nstrong enough to fight off your attacker?  Are you willing to let this man rape\nyou in order to survive the attack? \n\nIf the House and Senate have their way, we will soon not have the right to keep\nand bear arms, as provided by the Second Amendment to the Constitution. A gun\nmay not be the answer to each and every dangerous situation, but are you going\nto let the politicians decide what sort of force or weapon you may use to\ndefend yourself and your family? \n\nMany times a situation may be diffused by just brandishing your handgun.  If\ncertain members of the House and Senate have their way, .25, .32, and 9mm\nammunition will be banned for sale to anyone other than the military and law\nenforcement departments.  Very soon, you may not be able to purchase ammunition\nfor use in your handgun. \n\nThere is already a 15 day waiting period in California.  Do you really feel\nthat any law abiding citizen should be required to wait this amount of time for\nthe purchase of a handgun when his life or family members have been threatened?\n\nOur local police do an excellent job, but they can not be there all the time,\nor in a moments notice.  You should have the right to protect yourself   while\nwaiting for help to arrive. \n\nThere is currently legislation circulating in Washington that would prohibit\nthe sale of certain types of ammuntion, handguns, rifles, and shot-guns.  One\nelected official even wants to repeal the Second Amendment! \n\nI want to ask the readers of this paper what they would do if their elected\nofficials decided that they should only belong to a \"certain church\", or go to\nchurch on a \"partiular day\"?  What if you were told that you could only read\ncertain books?  Write about certain subjects?  What if you no longer had the\nright to a jury of your peers?  How about the right to assemble in a peaceful\nmanner? ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I have some Desert Storm cards for sale.  I have divided them up into two lots.  I will take the highest bid before 4\/30\/93.  Just drop me a line with your bid.\n\n\nLot #1 Desert Storm (Coalition for Peace, Topps)\n\n cards# 38,3,16,28(S),8(S),71,30,34*2,69,48,2,79,15,16(S),66,69,17,21,26\n        85,25,17(S),18,6,86,23,49\n\n 2nd series(Topps) cards# 118,111,92,104,115,160,95,162,31(S),136,110,123\n                          147,107,164,108,170\n\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nLot #2 Desert Storm (Pro Set)\n\n cards# 44,87,120,196,229,19,74,121,153,208,47,100,150,187,13,58,178,217\n        22,94,142,197,227,4,108,174,228,6,89,137,190,205,23,82,128,199,211\n\n(S) - Sticker card\n ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nWell, I got  WINZIP from cica (don't know which version, but I think\nit's the latest, as this is not long ago), and I was initially imressed.\nBut here's the low-down:\n\nWINZIP is a *great* progra, *as long as you only unzip*.  It lets you\nvew files, unzip only selected files, and even puts the files in a\n\/checkout directory, and creates a \"checkout\" .grp and group if you want\nto check the program out.  It even prompts for deletion of these on\nexit, if you didn;t like the program.\n\n*HOWEVER* (big however over here).  I have problems zipping.  I don't\nkonw specifics on this, or ammount of consistency, but sometimes when I\n\"zip\" a few files, or add a file to a .zip, dos will violate something\nor other, and I'll be asked (in a kind, micro$oft kind of way) to quit\nall applications, quit windows, and restart my computer.  I don't know\n(as I said) how consistent this is, as I jdont' zip much (and when I do,\nnow I just go to dos and use it from there, or just use the \"run\" cmd)\nbut I *do* know it's happened when I added files to an existing .zip\nfile, *and* when I created a new .zip file, using selected files only.\nI don't know if it's happened when I zip an entire dir.\n\nStill, it has a rather nice interface, and quite useful \"unzip\"ing\nfunctions.  If the above is fixed, I'll be the first to register the new\nver.  (as for now, a good old, \"run-->unzip *.zip\" will work.\n\n(PS> if a new ver *is* out that fixes these, please let me know).\n\npeace,\nMickey","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n  When did *you* go out and change the laws of physics? :-)  According to some\nnumbers I used to see bandied around, shaft drive is on the order of 95-97%\nefficient, while chain drive is closer to 99%...   Seems to me that this makes\n*chain* drive more efficient, hmmmmm???\n\n  And granted, shaft has a lot less maintenance, which is fine, if you don't\nmind less performance... :-) :-)\n\nRandy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com\nZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            {uunet!ucsd}!megatek!randy\nDoD #0013","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Much deleted about assembly in USA vs. other, \nI wish to focus on the subject of warm-running amplifiers:\n\n\nThere is a correclation between warm-running amps and good sound,\nor in your words, \"it DOES have a bearing on....\".\n\nNow, I don't suggest that everyone run out and create combination\nstove\/amplifiers that will degrade lifespan,\nbut a cold-running circuit is much more suceptible to temperature\nvariation with varrying current than is a warm-running one.  And since\njunction resistance is a function of temperature, this has a detrimental\neffect on linearity.  \n\na few facts:\n-bias points vary with temperature\n-junction resist varrie with temp\n-Adcom products do NOT run class-A\n\nIf you still don't beleive this assertion, consider the warm-up requirements\nfor most good test equipment, or better yet, just listen to an amplifier\nwarm-up.  On many designs its quite audible, on mine, about 20 minutes for\nthe output stage, many hours for the drivers.  Fortunately the drivers\nare not switched.\n\nIn any experiment, or when drawing conclusions from listening,\nbetcareful to seperate the effect of device temperature from bias\n(idle current) level.  Both have a positive correlation with low\ndistortion and \"good\" sound quality, and high bias results in\nwarmer operation, all other factors being equal.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nIf I remember correctly Prometheus books have this one in stock,\nso just call them and ask for the book.\n\nCheers,\nKent","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nSteve>   Hmmm... given the error corrections in modern audio CDs, is\nSteve> it sufficient to simply instruct your agent to decrypt using\nSteve> the bit stream from the second cut of the latest Garth Brooks\nSteve> CD, or are the usual number of bit errors found acceptable in\nSteve> commercial CDs because of that error correction enough to\nSteve> garble the message if such a method is used?\n\nOne unreliable data point: while looking over the shoulder of a\nrecording engineer, I decided that he was seeing a raw error rate of\nabout 1 in 1e6 on a CD ``master.''  Both the extrapolation to\nmass-market CDs and my state of mind while doing the arithmetic (I was\nwaiting for him to finish so we could go get something to eat) are\nquestionable. ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Hello, All!\n\n  I apologize, I haven't published my astro FTP list since March.\n  Now I haven't tested all the sites included into the list.  I\n  would notified all the people, you have stored some older issues\n  of my, there are now lots of changes.  Many sites have gone away:\n  They either do not exist any more or all the astro stuff have\n  removed.\n \n  The job keep this list is very hard, so all the notes and informat-\n  ion of changes, new sites, new contents etc. is welcome.\n\n  I would thank all the net people who give me information for the\n  newest version.\n\n\n\n  \t\t\t\t\tregards,\n\n\t\t\t\t\tVeikko Makela","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"  The points raised about checking what is actually -in- the chip, as\nopposed to what is allegedly programmed therein, raise yet another trust\nissue.  Even if we assume that these \"trusted agents\" are really entering\na wide range of S1 and S2 seeds (rather than using the same one all the\ntime to reduce the key search space to 30 bits), I assume they are not\ndoing so by picking up an iron filing and poking it into the circuitry\nat carefully selected points to encode data.  They would presumably be\npunching numbers into a computer, which for all they know could program\nthe chips in a manner completely independent of the S1 and S2 values they\nare feeding into the system.\n\n\n\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Hello, if you have any experience\/knowledge\/comments\/advice\/etc about\nCompaq's EISA Deskpro machines, please reply. (preferably via email)\n\nI'm thinking of getting one and am looking for any & all user comments.\n\nThanks.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nDavid,\n\n   Neither (1) or (2) apply with the government, though. The feds, unlike\nApple, have repeatedly demonstrated that trust is an unsafe thread on which\nto hang your freedom. Why?  Because unlike Apple in (2), the govt has no\ncredibility to lose. I'm serious about this. One can name just about any\nagency -- the IRS, RTC, FCC, FAA, FBI, NSA, CIA -- and find numerous examples\nof the public trust run roughshod over. Worse, one can rarely find in such \nexamples any serious consequences to the offending agency. Even supposing\nwe could get a reign on trust somehow, there's always the matter of competence\nin govt agencies. Can they even trust themselves?\n\n  -mel\n\n  P.S. I was amused when you mentioned the USDA as an example of an agency\ncapable of managing the an escrow. I'm a consultant to the USDA, and while those\n*I* work with are wonderful <grin>, the agency itself is ranked in industry\npublications such as Govt Computer News as one of the worst caretakers of\nits computer resources. Recently, Prime Time Live did a long segment on\nthe USDA's computer troubles. They are making a concerted effort to change,\nbut intentions don't make a track record.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"1. Withdraw\n2. leave the people in the compund to lead their lives as they choose.\n3. prosecute the BAFT agents for murder\n\n-- ","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"The Branch Davidians were not violent and were not planning to start\nviolence.\n \nWhen the BD compound was assaulted by the ATF the BD did fire back.\nBut they agreed to a cease fire and they allowed the ATF to care for\ntheir wounded.  The BD even released the ATF agents they captured.  It\nis clear from the release of the agents and allowing the ATF medical\nattention that the BD were not looking for trouble.\n \nIf the BD were violent they would have held the ATF agents as\nhostages.  They would not have released them like they did.  If they\nhad kept the agents hostage they could have used them as bargening\nchips for medical attention etc.\n \nA big thing is being made of the BD collection of weapons but no one\nhas shown that they had any plans to use them.  It is also apparent\nthat the BD did not have any military training.  If they had, they\ncould have dug bunkers and trenches and increased their\nfortifications.  They could have shot out the lights and speakers.  It\nappears that the BD were not violent, they shot back at the attacking\nATF agents out of panic.  There were shots fired on the last day but\nthey were in response to the FBI attack on the compound with armor.\n \nAll the violence in Waco was initiated by the federal agents, not the\nBD.\n \n \n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"E G L I N     A F B\n\nFrom:  DENNIS L. HART                       Date:     14-May-1993 02:41pm CST\n       HART                                 Tel No:   904 882 3154\nDept:  646CCSG\/SCWA*SAS\n\nTO:    Internet Addressee                   ( _SMTP[xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu] )\n\n\nSubject: VXT2000 Windowing Terminal Help\n\nGreetings!\n\n\nWe have several VXT 2000 Windowing terminals and associated software on our\nnetwork.  We are able to open a LAT terminal window to any of our workstation\nnodes but we are unable to get a LAT X session to work.\n\nWe have customized the terminal security to allow all LAT connections.\n\nTrying to invoke a LAT X session from the VXT 2000 results in the following\nmessage being displayed in the terminal manager window message area:\n\nHost Does Not Support X Sessions\n\n(The host is a VAX4000 Model 60 and does support X sessions)\n\n\nOpening a LAT terminal window and logging into the server node, setting the\ndisplay variable as follows:\n\n$ set display\/create\/node=LAT_###########\/transport=lat\n\nand then trying to create a decterm on the VXT as follows:\n\n$ create\/term=decterm\/detach\n\nFails and gives the following error message:\n\ndectermport failed to find language, XOpenDisplay(\"\")  returned NULL\n%DECW-F-CANT-OPEN-DISPL Can't open display\n\nThe VXT 2000 is using its system defaults (ie. default font(s), language, ...)\nexcept for the security options to allow all connections and options enabling \nLAT protocol.\n\nwe have VT1200 windowing terminals and the above things were enough to allow\nLAT X sessions.\n\nVMS Version is 5.5-1\nRunning DECwindows\/Motif of VAX4000 Model 60s\n\n\nPlease help.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I have the following problem on a Dell 450SE with the ATI Graphics Ultra Pro \nEISA:\n\nWhen I start Windows, the first 5 times I try to run an application, it does\nnot start. Windows will show the following error message:\n\n   Error Executing application. There is not enough memory to run the    \n   application.\n\nAfter the first 5 tries, the application I want to run will start, and \nafterwards there are no more problems. When I change the Video driver from \nMach 32 to 8514\/a, this problem does not occur, so I suspect the ATI \ndrivers (I tried both the build 55 and build 59 driver).\n\nDoes anyone have a clue?\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nHow do you know they can be shortened by half-an-hour?  Has anybody done a\nstudy to determine how much time is actually \"wasted\" -- say, in these A's\ngames?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I am looking at the honda shadow 11000 and the intruder 800 or 1400? what have you heard about these bikes?","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
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{"text":"-------------------------------------------------------------------------\nNetters!\n\nI have seen some postings on PC\/IP from MIT. This package out of 1986(?)\nshould be a full TCP\/IP fro the DOS-machines. Is there anyone out there\nthat's using it?\n\nI want to connect a DOS-machine to my OS\/2 machine... Tell me what the\nDOS-machine should run (sample CONFIG and AUTOEXEC would be great) and\nwhere I can find a nfs client. I understand that a telnet and a ftp\nclient are part of the package.\n\nI've got the Crynwr package drivers, but that's it! Please point me to\na good source of information if you cannot help me yourself...","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
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{"text":"\n\nHopefully, he doesnt take it personal...","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nHere in Iowa it is\/has been OWI (operating under the influence) and OMVI\n(operating motor vehicle under the influence).  They (gov't) changed it to\nOMVI so that people in motor boats could also be charged with drunk driving. ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I'm selling an assortment of goods!!\nThey're all in excellent shape (the amp and detector were\nrarely used).\n\nThule rack with locks for VW GTI or Jetta (2yrs)........ $75\nSilca floor bike pump (pink) ...........................  20\nUniden Radar Detector (X and K bands, orig $134) .......  75\nBlaupunkt 60W car amp (orig $150) ......................  75\n\n\nShipping included in all prices.  Interested?\nPlease respond by email (whsld login or sldenton@cbnewsj.cb.att.com)\nor phone (201) 386-2949 office.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Tim Belcher pitched a dandy three-hit shut-out tonight as Cincinnati won \ntheir second straight 5-0.  Pittsburgh Lefty Randy Tomlin was hit early and \noften by the heavily right-unbalanced Reds line-up, which managed some\nrecently rare power with their bats.\n\nBelcher (1-1) was solid throughout and in fact seemed to get stronger as the\ngame progressed.  Early on he had several three-ball counts, but even those\nwere few and far between later on as he allowed only one base-on-balls while\nstriking out nine.  In a post game interview he said his change-up was working\nfor him--I should say so:  all nine of his strikeouts were apparently on \nbreaking balls.\n\nTomlin (0-1), on the other hand was in trouble early, giving up a second-pitch\ndouble to lead-off batter Bip Roberts.  Bobby Kelly followed with a single and \nBarry Larkin scored Roberts with a sharp single to right.  The big guys\n(Mitchell, Sabo, Milligan) were unable to get anything after that--in fact\nthey all struck out--but Kelly managed a score anyway due to a double-steal\nand a Tomlin wild pitch.\n\nIn fact, it appeared that Tomlin was going to recover nicely from his shaky\nstart-- he retired 9 of the next 11 batters to get to the fourth behind only\n2-0.  Randy Milligan, though, had different ideas as his line-shot was\npoorly played by Orlando Merced and turned into a triple.  Milligan would \nlater score on Reggie Sanders' sacrifice fly, giving Cinci the 3-0 lead \nafter 4.\n\nThe fifth inning spelled loss for Tomlin when Roberts led off with his second\ndouble of the game, and one batter later Larkin smacked a double down the \nleft field line, chasing Tomlin.  Barry later would score the final run on\nTom Prince's two-base passed ball.  \n\nThe Pirates managed their only threat of the day in the bottom half of the\nfifth when Merced and Kevin Young hit back-to-back singles (the second \nbeing of the \"bunt\" variety), but Carlos Garcia struck out, Prince fit a \nfoul fly, and pinch-hitter Lonnie Smith \"K'd\" to end any Pittsburgh hope.\n\nPittsburgh pitchers backed Tomlin up well, though:  relievers Blas Minor,\nMoeller (sp?), and Nagel gave up only two hits in their four-plus innings\nwork.\n\nBarry Larkin left the game in the seventh when the grounder he (mis)played \nbruised his right thumb.  He was taken to the hospital for \"precautionary\nX-rays\".  Let's hope he's OK.\n\nCincinnati is now 4-9, still the worst record in the majors, but with the\ntwo wins they may be looking at  moving out of the cellar!\nPittsburgh is now 7-6.\n\n*********REDS FANS***************************\nIf you would like to receive this report on a \nsemi-daily basis (as often as I write it), \nsend me your e-mail address and I'll put you \non the list.  If someone has a Reds mailing \nlist, please forward it to me and I'll put\neveryone on the list!!\n*********************************************\n\n\nCINCINNATI REDS\n\t\t\tAB\tR\tH\t\tK\tBB\tLO\n-----------------------------------------------|---------------------------\nRoberts 2b\t\t4\t2\t2\t\t1\t0\t1\nKelly cf\t\t4\t1\t1\t\t0\t0\t0\nLarkin ss\t\t3\t1\t3\t\t0\t0\t0\n  Branson ss\t\t0\t0\t0  \t\t0\t0\t0\nMitchell lf\t\t4\t0\t1\t\t1\t0\t0\t\n  Hernandez lf\t\t0\t0\t0\t\t0\t0\t0\nSabo 3b\t\t\t4\t0\t0\t\t1\t0\t1\nMilligan 1b\t\t4\t1\t1\t\t2\t0\t1\nSanders rf\t\t3\t0\t0\t\t2\t0\t0\nOliver c\t\t4\t0\t2\t\t2\t0\t0\nBelcher p\t\t4\t0\t0\t\t2\t0\t1\n---------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTotals\t\t\t34\t5\t10\t\t11\t0\t4\n\n\n3b Milligan (off Tomlin, leading off fourth, scored)\n2b Roberts (off Tomlin, leading off first, scored)\n   Roberts (off Tomlin, leading off fifth, scored)\n   Larkin  (off Tomlin, in fifth, one out, runner on second, RBI, scored)\nSF Sanders\nRBI Larkin 2, Sanders\nSB Kelly, Larkin\nGDP Sabo\n\n\n\nPITTSBURGH PIRATES\n\t\t\tAB\tR\tH\t\tK\tBB\tLO\n-----------------------------------------------|---------------------------\nMartin lf\t\t4\t0\t0\t\t0\t0\t1\nBell ss \t\t4\t0\t0\t\t1\t0\t0\nVan Slyke cf\t\t4\t0\t0\t\t0\t0\t0\nKing 3b\t\t\t3\t0\t0\t\t2\t1\t0\nMerced rf\t\t3\t0\t1\t\t1\t0\t0\nYoung 1b\t\t2\t0\t1\t\t1\t0\t0\nGarcia 2b\t\t3\t0\t0\t\t2\t0\t1\nPrince c\t\t3\t0\t1\t\t0\t0\t0\nTomlin p\t\t1\t0\t0\t\t0\t0\t0\n  Minor p\t\t0\t0\t0\t\t0\t0\t0\n  Smith ph \t\t1\t0\t0\t\t1\t0\t2\n  Moeller p\t\t0\t0\t0 \t\t0\t0\t0\n  Waynor ph\t\t1\t0\t0\t\t1\t0\t0\n  Nagel p\t\t0\t0\t0\t\t0\t0\t0\n---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\t\t\t29\t0\t3\t\t9\t1\t4\n\n\nGDP Merced\n\n---------------------------------------------------------------------------\nCincinnati\t2  0  0    1  2  0    0  0  0   -----  5  11  1\nPittsburgh\t0  0  0    0  0  0    0  0  0   -----  0  3   0\n\n\n\nPitching\n\n\t\t\tIP\tR\tER\tH\tK\tBB\nCincinnati\t\n\nBelcher (W 1-1)\t\t9\t0\t0\t3\t9\t1\n\nCG (1), SO (1)\n\n$$$LINE OF THE DAY!!!$$$\n\nE- Larkin\n\nPittsburgh\n\nTomlin (L 0-1)\t\t4 1\/3\t5\t5\t9\t6\t0\nMinor\t\t\t2\/3\t0\t0\t1\t0\t0\nMoeller\t\t\t2\t0\t0\t0\t3\t0\nNagel \t\t\t1\t0\t0\t1\t2\t0\n\nWP- Tomlin\nPB- Prince\n\n\nUmps Rippley\/Hallion\/Quick\/Crawford\n\nAtt-9,077\nT-2:14\n\n\nComing up:\nThe Reds play two more in Pitts, then go to Chicago for a weekend series.\nThe weather doesn't look good, though-- don't be surprised if one or more\ngames get rained out.\n\nTomorrow, 7:35, Jose Rijo vs. Steve Cook, then Smiley vs. Wakefield on Thursday.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\nNewsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system\nFrom: probulf@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Frank Probul)\nSubject: Re: A\/ROSE with Centris and Quadra models\nOrganization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany\nDate: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 14:33:26 GMT\n\nA\/ROSE = Apple Real Time Operating System Environment\n\nThis is a system extension for these NuBUS cards using the \nMCP (= Macintosh Coprocessor Platform). The MCP-cards are NuBUS cards with a\nMotorola 68000-Processor and 512 KB RAM (expandable to 1 Meg).\nMCP is a development platform for hardware-designers so they can use a card\nwith an own processor and thus the main processor isn't needed for these cards.\nCurrently the only cards I know are\n\n- the Apple TokenRing-Card\n- the new Apple Ethernet-Card\n- the Apple NuBUS serial card\n\nPerhaps there are some third-party-cards, but I don't know.\n\n\n---------------------------------------------\nFrank Probul\nEmanuelstr. 17, D-8000 Munich 40, Germany\n\nAppleLink: Probul.F@AppleLink.Apple.COM\ninternet:  probulf@informatik.tu-muenchen.de\n\nMunich University of Technology\nDepartment of Computer Science\nGermany","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"There is a file at the simtel archives called adda10.zip I think that\nis for DSP.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"[...]\n\n\n\nMr. Kuo: I don't recall seeing your byline around much before (at least\non t.p.m). Let me clue you in on this newsgroup. t.p.m is populated\nlargely by people whose hatred for the U.S. government, especially\nthe government of Mr. Clinton, is literally boundless. To these\npeople, the suggestion that agents of the U.S. government would carry\nout a spectacular massacre of its own citizens, in full view of TV\ncameras, is not an 'extraordinary claim'. It's just another day in\nthe life of these United States.\n\nThey don't have to suggest any reason why the FBI would want to\npublicly massacre citizens. Have you seen 'The Crying Game'? \n\n\t\"It's in their nature\".\n\n\nDon Pajerek","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nAnd won't they have to change their name to the \"Steelers\" or something.\nThe only significant deposits of oil around Hamilton are those caused by\nthe tire fire a  few years back.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"US Robotics Courier HST 14.4K Modem\n*External (volume control, LED display, power switch)\n*1600-1700 CPS compressed file transfers (higher for uncompressed\nfiles)\n*all manuals and original packaging\nThis modem ussually costs around 500\n* V.42 error control \n* V.42bis data conpression \n* MNP Class 5\nerror free throughput up to 38,400 bps\n \nSpecial price for YOU only..   !!!!  $220  !!!!!!\nPlease inquire with any questions.. \nemail\njmcneill@sdcc13.ucsd.edu\nor call VOICE: 619 622 1949","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Just a quick, simple question really...\n\n\tHow many wheels are affected by the emergency brake on an '86 Nissan\nMaxima. I've heard that all four are affected, but this would seem unusual\nto me. I thought the emergency brake on most cars only affected the rear\nwheels. Also, how powerful is the emergency brake usually? Enough to lock\nwheels at 30mph? Hmmmm... I just have to wonder about some of the things I\nhear...","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Another alternative is to cover the adhesive with another piece of\nduct tape then remove the tape. \n\nIf it still doesn't work, try WD-40.\nBQN\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\tThat is not an \"atheism mythology\" in any sense of the word.\n\"Religious paradoy\" would be significantly more appropriate.\n\n\tThe 2nd part is rendered null and void by the simple fact that I\ndo know several \"strong\" atheists. I am sure that others do. I myself am\n\"strong\" in the sense that I find the standard concept of God without any\nmeaning. Any attempt to bring meaning either results in the destruction of \nthe viability of language, or in internal self contradiction. \n\n\tThe concept of strong atheism is not just a whimsical fantasy. They, \nand I, exist.\n\n\tYour strawman is pointless and weak.\n\n---\n\nPrivate note to Jennifer Fakult.\n\n        \"This post may contain one or more of the following:\n         sarcasm, cycnicism, irony, or humor. Please be aware \n         of this possibility and do not allow yourself to be \n         confused and\/or thrown for a loop. If in doubt, assume\n         all of the above.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\nHas anyone publically considered the possibility that the fires were set\nfor defence instead of suicide and the destruction and confusion caused\nby the tanks and gas caused things to get out of the BDs control?\n\n--\n\"Spending programs are now 'investments,' taxes are 'contributions,' and \nthese are the same people who say _I_ need a dictionary?\"  - Dan Quayle 2\/19\/93","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":": >Showing a meaningless (relatively) baseball game over the overtime of\n: >game that was tied up with less than 3 seconds left on the clock?","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n\n  That's _Five Weeks In A Balloon_.  And if anyone can tell me where to\nget it, I sure would like a reply!  I've been looking for that book for\nTEN YEAR+, and never found it.  (Note that I am _not_ looking for a $200\ncollector's item; I'm hoping that *someone* has published it in modern\ntimes, either in paperback or hardcover.  I'm willing to spend $50 or\nso to get a copy.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Does anyone know where I could get some source code for a GIF viewer on a PC.\nIt doesn't have to be fancy, it would be best if it were written in C to \ndisplay gif pictures on a VGA screen.  I was hoping to get it for free\nfrom an FTP site, but I haven't been able to find it yet.\n\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"How about Brooks Robinson's last homerun ever?  #268 came on 4-19-77 at\nMemorial Stadium with one out and two on in the bottom of the 10th inning.\nLarry Harlow was due up, but Brooks pinch-hit a 3-2 pitch from Dave LaRoche\ninto the left field bleachers for a 6-5 win.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Tuesday April 27, 1993 UPDATE\n\nThis is my latest updated list of strange\/bizzare\/odd\/independent comics\nthat I have for sale.  As always, most are cover price, but some I will\nactually look up in the guide to see \"how much it is worth.\"\n\nThis week's special:\n\tYoungspud (spoof comics)\n\tOldblood\/Bragade (spoof comics)\n\t\n\tSpoofs of your favorite Image comics.  Both of these comics for\n\t$5.00 which includes shipping.\n\n\nA1 6 (featuring Tank-Girl) 10\nAdventurers (Aricel and Adventure series)  \nThe Adventures of Luther Arkwright 2, 7\nAfter Apocalypse 1\nAlias Blastpoint\nAlien Nation 2\nAngryman 2\nAnimal Man 35-38, 41-48, Trade Paperback (issues 1-9)\nAnything but Monday 1\nApache Dick 1-3\nApe Nation 1\nArion The Immortal 1\nAtlantis Chronicles 1\nAvengers 263, 272, 300, 306, 324, 329, Annual 15, 18, 19\nAvengers West Coast 67\nBack to the Future (cartoon adaption)\nBadaxe 1\nBade Biker Orson 4\nBatman: Shadow of the Bat (in polybag)\nBatman vs Predator 1\nBatman: Year One\nBats, Cats & Cadillacs 1\nBeer Nutz 2\nBizarre 3-D Zone 1\nBlackhawk Book 1-3\nBlack Scorpion 1\nBlackthorne Publishing Flip-Book 1\nBlood Sword Dynasty 28\nBob's Favorite Comics 1\nBoof (caliber) 1\nBoris the Bear 1\nBoris the Bear 1 (Slaughters the Teenage Radioactive Black Belt...)\nBig Numbers 1\nBlackhawk 1, 2, 3\nBreathtaker 1\nButt Biscuit 1\nCadillacs & Dinosaurs 1\nCage 1\nCap'n Quick & a Foozle 1\nCosmic Odyssey\nCrossroads 1,5\nCyberpunk 1\nDark Horse Presents 1, 5, 25, 37, 40, 43\nDesert Storm: Send Hussein to Hell! 1\nDragon Chiang\nDungeoneers 3\nElflord Vol 2 No 4\nElftrek 1\nEnchanter (eclipse) 3\nEye of Mogambo\nFelix The Cat 1\nFire Team 3\nFish Police 3-8, 22\nFlash Gordon 1-4\nFly 1\nFrench Ice 10, 13\nFull Throttle 1\nGajit Gang 1\nGambit 1\nGatekeeper 1\nGet Lost 1\nGhost Rider & Captain America: Fear\nGive me Liberty 4\nGodzilla 2\nThe Greatest Flash Stories Ever Told\nGreen Arrow 1-9, 12, 47-51, Ann 1, 4\nGreenhaven 1\nGreen Hornet 5, 13, 14\nGreen Lantern 1\nGrey 1\nGrimJack 26, 71, 80\nGrimjack Casefiles 5\nGuardians of the Galaxy 25\nHammer of God 1\nHamster Vice 1\nHarley Rider 1\nHaunt of Fear 1\nHercules Unbound 1\nHollywood Superstars 5\nI Saw It\nI am Legend\nIcarus 1-6\nIcon 1\nIdol 1\nIlluminatus 1\nIn-Country Nam 2\nInterface (epic) 1-3\nIntruder (TSR comics module) 3\nInvaders from Home 1\nInvaders from Mars (eternity) 2\nJademan Kung-Fu Special 1\nJaguar 1\nJason Monarch 1\nJeremiah: Birds of Prey 1, 2\nJohn Byrne's Next Men 1, 3, 4 \nJudge Dredd 41\nJustice Machine 6, 29\nJusty 1, 2, 7, 8\nKicker's Inc\nKid Cannibal (eternity) 2\nKobra 1\nLabor Force (blackthorne) 4\nLast American (epic) 1, 3, 4\nLast Generation 1, 3, 4\nLast of the Viking Heroes 2\nLegend of the Shield 1\nLegend Killer 1\nLegend of Kamui 1, 4, 6, 13, 14, 19\nLensman 7\nLethargic Comics, Weakly 1\nLight and Darkness War 1, 2\nLiving Stone Mountain\nLoner 1\nLords of the Ultra-Realms 1\nLucifer 1\nM.A.C.H. 1 (fleetway) Secret Weapon 1, 2\nMaster 1\nMaxwell Mouse Follies 1\nMaze 5, 18, 19 \nMerlin 3, 6\nMeta-4 (first) 1\nMetal Bikini (eternity) 6\nMetropol 1, 11\nMiami Mice 3 (Marke Bode)\nMidnite the Rebel Skunk 1\nMister E 1\nMr. Monster's True Crime 2\nMs. Tree (renagade) 26, 28, 37, 40\nMs. Tree in 3-D\nMs. Tree Quarterly (DC) 3, 4\nMummy 1, 2\nMummy,s Curse (aricel) 1, 3\nMyth Conceptions 1\nNathaniel Dusk 2\nNathan Impaler: Monster Hunter (night realm) 1\nNemesis the Warlock (quality) 1, 5\nNew Beginning 1 \nNew Frontier 1\nNewstralia 3\nNew Triumph featuring Northguard 4\nNew York Year Zero 1-4\nNight Life (caliber) 8\nNight Zero (fleetway) 2\nNinja Elite (adventure) 1-5, 7\nNosferatu 1\nOfficial Buz Sawyer 1\nOfficial Prince Valiant 1, 2\nOlympians 1\nOne 1\nOpen Season 1\nOpen Space 2, 3\nOracle 1\nOriginal Black Cat 1\nOX Cow O' War 1\nPandora Pill 1\nPanorama 1\nPathways to Fantasy 1\nPatrick Rabbit 1\nPenguin in Paris 4\nPersonality Comics Presents Musics Comics on Tour The Beatles 1 \nPersonality Comics Presents Rolling Stones\nPineapple Army 6\nPlanet of the Apes 8\nPortia Prinz of the Glamazons 4\nPsycho Killers (comic zone) 6 (Richard Ramirez\nPunisher and Captain America: Blood and Glory 1-3\nQuestion (DC) 35\nRed Heat 1\nRetief 1\nRhudiprrt The Prince of Fur 2\nRivit (blackthorne) 1\nRobocop vs. The Terminator 1\nRock and Roll Comics 56 (David Bowie)\nRockin Rollin Miner Ants (fate) 4\nRoger Rabbit's Toontown 1\nRunners (rip off press) 1\nSable (first) 19\nSame Slade Robohunter\nSamurai Son of Death\nScarlet Kiss 1\nScavengers (quality) 9, 10\nScorched Earth 1, 3\nScout: War Shaman 4\nScreen Monsters 1\nSensational She-Hulk (marvel graphic novel 18)\nshatterpoint (eternity) 2\nShuriken 3\nShuriken Cold Steel 1\nSilverfawn 1\nSinbad (adventure) Book 1: The Four Trials #4\nSisterhood of Steel 7\nSkreemer (DC) 1, 2\nSlaine\nSlash Maraud 1-6\nSong of the Cid (caliber) 2\nSonic Disrupters 6\nSpace Ark 1\nSpellbinders (quality) 3\nSpider 1-2\nSpider-Man Special 1 (vs. Venom, UNICEF giveaway 1993)\nSpider-Man and Power Pack (giveaway)\nSpoof (Spawn Spoof)\nSt George 1\nStalkers (epic) 1\nStark Future (aricel) 5\nStarriors 1-4\nSteed & Mrs Peel 1\nStraw Men (all-american) 1, 2\nStreet Wolf 2\nSuper Shark Humanoids 1 \nSurvivors 1\nSwords of Shar-Pei 1\nSyphons 1\nTales from the Aniverse 3\nTales of Ordinary Madness 1-4\nTales of the Green Hornet 1, 2\nTales of the Jackalope 1\nThundersaur 1\nTomb of Dracula 1\nTorrid Affairs 4, 5\nToxic Avenger 1-3\nTransmutation of Ike Garuda 1\nTrekker 1-5\nTrouble with Tigers (antarctic) 1\nTwilight Man (first) 1, 4\n2000 AD Showcase 50\nUFO Alien Contact (comic zone) 1\nUltra Klutz 1\nUnicorn Isle 2\nValkyrie 1-3\nAnne Rice: Interview With a Vampire 1\t\t\t\nAnne Rice: Vampire Companion 1\t\t\t\nAnne Rice: Vampire Lestat 5\t\t\nVenus Wars 1\nVideo Jack 1-5\nViolent Cases\nWacky Squirrel Summer Fun Special 1\nWanderers 1\nWar 1, 2\nWarheads 1\nWarlock 5 (aricel) 20\nWasteland 5\nWeb 1\nWeird 1\nWizards of the Last Resort 1\nWorld Without End 4\nX-Terminators 1-4\nZell Sworddancer 1\nZorro 1\n\nMost comics are in near mint to mint condition, are bagged in shiny \npolypropylene bags, and backed with white acid free boards.  Shipping is\n$1.50 for one book, $3.00 for more than one book, or free if you order \na large enough amount of stuff.  I am willing to haggle.\n\nI have thousands and thousands of other comics, so please let me know what \nyou've been looking for, and maybe I can help.  \n\nI will trade for other comics as well as computer equipment, video\nequipment, etc...  Let me know what you want to trade!!\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":" \nIt is also much easier to scribble corrections on a hard-copy manual.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I don't wish to rehash the PGP patent issue at all, but I do feel\nthat some potential misconceptions in interpretting intellectual property\nlaws need to be raised.\n\n\nYou are correct that executing PGP would be a violation (unless the patent\nwere declared invalid by the courts), but...  there is a question as\nto when, how, or if distributing PGP would be a violation.  If the person\nor company distributing PGP receives money for doing so, then it is\nclearly a sale (for example, if it were on Compuserve, they charge you\nfor access so they would be selling PGP).  When there is no charge for\nPGP things get less clear, but there would still be a reasonable view\nthat it is inducing an infringement.\n\n\nThis is a common misconception.  The patent laws do not mention any valid\npurpose for infringing a patent.  Although it is clear that in order to\ncreate a new invention either based on a prior patent or to avoid infringing\na prior patent, one must perform research on an existing patent.  To\njust say that you infringed a patent (assume we're not talking the RSA\npatent) only for research purposes (wink wink, nudge nudge) and then never\ndevelop any related invention (ie. only use it), would be a clear\ninfringement.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n \nCertainly. Reference follows. \n\nBear in mind that there are at least two conditions which may be called\nred\/green colour blind. One, protanopia, is caused by a lack or major\ndysfunction of the L cones, those that respond best to long\nwavelengths. This gives much reduced red\/green and red\/violet discrimination and\nalso means that reds look dimmer than than they do to people with normal vision.\n\nThe other, deuteranopia, is due to missing or dysfunctional M cones although it\ncan also be caused by a lack of the L-M cone difference signals in the retina.\nIt also gives reduced red\/green discrimination but red\/violet is unaffected. \nUnlike protanopia, reds are not dimmer than  normal.\n\nOn a uniform chromaticity diagram - the horseshoe shaped one you see in computer\ngraphics books - there is a single confusion point for each type of colour\ndeficiency. Colours which are confused lie on straight lines radiating from this\npoint. For protanopia the point is at u'=0.61,v'=0.51, very close to the far red\ncorner. For deuteranopia, the point is at u'=-4.75, v'=1.31\n\nNote that different experimental investigations in the literature give slightly\ndifferent values for these depending on the precise details of the experimental\nsetup, random errors, and so on. The values quoted are typical.\n\nSo if all colours on a line are seen as the same, which colour is actually seen?\n\nThis problem has now been solved. Tests on people with one normal eye and one\naffected eye have shown that there is an axis for each type of disorder onto\nwhich all the colours collapse. For protanopes this joins up 473nm and 574nm on\nthe spectral locus (the edge of the horseshoe); for deuteranopes the line is\nvery similar,  joining 477nm and 579nm.\n\n*So* to convert colours from normal vision to a simulated protanopia or\nduuteranopia:\n\n1) Plot the colour on a uniform chromaticity diagram\n2) Construct a line from this point to the appropriate confusion point\n3) Find the intersection of this line with the appropriate axis line\n4) This is the new chromaticity. \n\nThe best reference for this is Meyer, G.W. & Greenberg, D.P. (1988) 'Colour\ndefective vision and computer graphics displays', IEEE Computer Graphics and\nApplications 8(5) 28-40.\n\nYou will also need a decent reference on basic colour science if you are not\nfamiliar with the CIE XYZ colour model and the uniform chromaticity scale diagram.\n\n\nYes this is certainly possible. You will need the chromaticities of the red\ngreen and blue phosphors of the monitor you intend to display the images on, and\nthe chromaticity of the white point. This information can be measured, or\nobtained from the manufacturer. I posted a list of some monitor chromaticities a\ncouple of weeks ago.\n\nThe procedure, for each pixel (!) is as follows. (Some lookup tables might be a\nhelp here.)\n\nA) convert RGB to CIE XYZ. This is a simple 3*3 matrix multiplication once you\nhave the monitor data.\nB) retaining the Y component for later, convert XYZ to chromaticity coordinates u'v'\nusing u' = 4X\/(X+15Y+3Z), v' = 9Y\/(X+15Y+3Z)\nC) find the equation of the line as in step 2 above\nD) find the intersection as in step 3\nE) convert back from u'v' to XYZ, using the Y value from step A\nF) Ensure that this new colour can be displayed on your monitor; if not, move it\nalong a line in XYZ space towards neutral grey (ie half way between black and\nwhite) until it is displayable.\n\n\nDone; also posted for the rest of us.\n\n--\nChris Lilley\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTechnical Author, ITTI Computer Graphics and Visualisation Training Project\nComputer Graphics Unit, Manchester Computing Centre, Oxford Road, \nManchester, UK.  M13 9PL                        Internet: C.C.Lilley@mcc.ac.uk  \nVoice: +44 (0)61 275 6045  Fax: +44 (0)61 275 6040 Janet: C.C.Lilley@uk.ac.mcc","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nThis sounds to me like a sort of generic modalism (in the the three phases\nof water are but different modes of behavior of the same physical stuff).\nIt certainly does not seem to me to describe the orthodox position.\n\n[Of course, I suppose that the medieval view of water may have been\ndifferent, but now we know that the phases of water are just different\n*behaviors* of the same physical stuff - different modes, not different\nidentities - but perhaps the medieval people did not know that].\n\n\nThis is clearly Modalistic Monarchianism, since these three aspects depend\nsolely on point of view, and are do not really represent actual variety\nwithin the person.\n\nDo you now begin to see why \n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
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{"text":"\n\nWell 48 bit colour *could* be for improved resolution but 16 bits per channel\nseems like a bit excessive. I have seen a paper that quoted 10 bits per channel\nof 12 bits for computational precision. More than that would seem to be wasted.\n\nPerhaps the frame buffer uses another colourspace which needs more bits to\nrepresent the full range - RGB is a cube so it is a compact encoding.\n\nMost likely however is that there are two separate 24 bit (8 bits per component)\nframe buffers. This set up, called double buffering, allows a complex 3d picture\nto be built up on one buffer while the other buffer (containing the previous\nframe) is displayed. This makes for smoother animation.\n\n\nWell hey if you want to brag about numbers, the 5000 range can take a PXG Turbo+\ncard with 96 bits per pixel. Full double buffering (Two 24 bit buffers), a 24\nbit Z buffer and an extra 24 bit buffer for off screen image storage.\n\nMind you the card costs more than your workstation.\n\n--\nChris Lilley\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTechnical Author, ITTI Computer Graphics and Visualisation Training Project\nComputer Graphics Unit, Manchester Computing Centre, Oxford Road, \nManchester, UK.  M13 9PL                        Internet: C.C.Lilley@mcc.ac.uk \nVoice: +44 (0)61 275 6045  Fax: +44 (0)61 275 6040 Janet: C.C.Lilley@uk.ac.mcc","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n \n\nPerhaps it was the most exciting game played yet that YOU have seen.  For\nmost of us who watch teams around the league with interest and objectivity, \nit was *nowhere* *near* the most exciting game...\n\n\nUnfortunately, the instant replay is not used on hits.  At first, I\nimmediately thought \"5 and a game\" because the hit _looked_ much more severe\nfrom an intent-to-injure perspective than it was.  After seeing the replay,\nI'd say it deserved 2-4 minutes for boarding (it was careless any way you \nslice it).  If Stewart had replay, I do not think Chaisson would have gotten\n5 and the game.\n\n\nThis no-call was bullshit, I agree. I admire Stewart for letting them go, but\nProbert *looked* *up* saying where the hell is the penalty?  I've never\nseen Probert whine either (he doesn't need to).  Now, if Probie\ndecides to put Wendel through the boards, he's probably gone, right?\n\n\nThis was also bullshit.  But once again, no replay.  It was Rouse, btw. I'm\nreally pissed that the linesmen didn't correct the call either....it's b.s.\nwhen the officials refuse to admit they made a mistake.  \n\n\nYes.  The calls you describe should not have the difference in a Detroit\nloss.  I picked the Leafs to win Game 3 on emotion and adrenalin, but the\nWings have no excuses for Game 4.  They should be the superior team.\n\nThe call that pissed me off the most was Anderson getting 4 for putting his\nstick in somebody's eye.  That was _the_ most dangerous stick infraction I\nhave seen in a long time, and everybody in the damn league _knows_ he's an\nasshole when it comes to stickwork.  Four lousy minutes.  Bullshit call. \nMurray should send the tape in.  Or a Wing should hammer the living shit out\nof him.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nI have done this before, but I'm not sure I used the best approach (although\nI tried several methods...).\n\nYou have to run up the window heirarchy (using XQueryTree()) until you get\nto the root window.  Now, this is not so simple because some window managers\nslap a window over the root window that is the same size as the root window,\nso be sure to take that into account for further calculations.\n\nCalculate the position and width\/height offsets for each window using\nXGetGeometry().  BE SURE TO TAKE THE BORDER_WIDTH INTO CONSIDERATION.\nRemember a windows border_width IS ON THE OUTSIDE of a window, so the\nwindows x,y,width,height must be adjusted accordingly.\n\nAll of this should give you pretty good numbers for how much space the\nwindow-manager is using.\n\nNow, to place the new window, you have to use the same numbers to calculate \nwhere you want to place it, because the window-manager will re-parent it on\nthe OUTSIDE of where you place your window (if I remember correctly).\n\nDISCLAIMER: All of this is from memory, and I no longer have the code.  But\nI did get it working under several window managers correctly.  Feel free to\ncall or e-mail for further info.\n\n              -McGary\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Everywhere we see and hear about christianity (due to its\nevangalistic nature). Witnessing, spreading the gospel, etc.\nBut what I want to know is...\n\n\"Why should I (or anyone else) become a Christian?\"\n\n(In twenty five words or less).\n\n\tZeros and Ones will take us there....\n\tpeace. plastic. 1993.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nOK, never heard of Cross filters, but Roberts, Prewitt and Sobel filters\nare standard spatial masks for edge detection.  Highpass filtering does a\ngood job of detecting edges, too.  A good reference for all sorts of general\ndigital image processing is the book _Digital Image Processing_ by\nRafael C. Gonzalez and Richard E. Woods.  Addison-Wesley Publishing Co. 1992.\nISBN 0-201-50803-6\n\nI've used this source to do the above filters and many other things as a\ngrad project.  Not too dificult to do.  The worst part is loading in the\nimages from TIFF\/GIF\/IFF-ILBM\/whatever!  :)","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Is there a portable and convenient way to use color picture files in\nthe .xpm format to define an X pixmap in a Motif application? Any\nfunctions, pointers, tips etc. would be most welcome.\n\n--------------------\nSaad Mufti\nPersonal Library Software","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nHow about, \nFrank Jacksonsuck-Bolick\nor \nFrank \"Cake Icing\" Bolick\nor\nFrank it's not a cow but a Bolick\nor\nFrank How Do you get a ribbon to stay on a birthday present Bolick\nor\nFrank \"Burns\" Bolick\nor\nFrank Lee Bad Player Bolick\nor\nFrank \"I Suck, not\" Bolick\n\nand so on.\n\n\n\n\nMatt Wall * wall@cc.swarthmore.edu * Hey, I gotta job here, OK?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"There was an article in one of the U.K. dailies this week\nabout a soccer goalkeeper who had to be carried off the\nfield after a collision with a Ford Sierra cage.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I am trying to find out anything I can about available documentation\nfor IGES and e00(Arc\/Info) formats.  If you know anything about these\nformats (or just one) PLEASE send me a note.  I don't read this group,\nso please send responses to:\n\nmike@prc.utexas.edu\n\nThank You","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nGee, nice of them to tell us.  Like, how about a Gestalt response bit for\nthe\nGestaltPowerManagerAttributesFoodSpreadProduct selector?  Well, at least\nnow I know why it doesn't work (I assume; I 'm using a PB 145).","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nThen we all live happily ever after. :-)\n\nSeriously, if we all agreed on the circumstances we're in, I suspect we'd all\nagree on the best course of action.  Unfortunately, I have no confidence that\nsuch a situation will ever arise. \n\nSome of us think there's a big God in the sky, some don't.  Some think\nthey've been chosen by God, others disagree.  Some think they are infallible,\nothers think otherwise.  Until those disagreements over circumstances can be\nironed out, there's little hope of everyone agreeing.\n\n\nYes.  I think that, for example, only a vanishingly small number of people\nwould hold that there's a frame of reference in which gassing six million\nJews is good.  So that's probably about as close to an objective moral value\nas I've encountered in my life so far.\n\n\nWell, I think your example's poor.  If the bomb's in Iraq, for example, and\nwas dropped by an American plane, many people would hold that it was a moral\nact.\n\n\nHmm.  So these moral values have a perceptible physical presence?\n\n\nRight, and the chain ends right there.  The buck stops with me.  It's not an\ninfinite regress.\n\n\nRight.  The key point, however, is that there are vanishingly few of these\nmoral issues where we can get 99.9% of people to agree on the outcome for all\nframes of reference (and agree on the frames of reference...)\n\n\nI can't manage either.  Killing Hitler using a car bomb would have been a\nterrorist act, but I have to admit that I couldn't exactly condemn it. \nAlthough there are tricky philosophical issues to do with hindsight...\n\n\nI think that circumstances have already arisen where terrorism would have\nbeen better than peace.  Better in terms of numbers of innocent people\nkilled.  Assuming it was successful terrorism, of course.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
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{"text":"Ideas for the relief of sciatica. Please respond to my E-mail\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I looked at that Bimmer yesterday. It's an '81, has about 90kmi, according\nto owner (odometer stopped working at 68Kmi). Drivess well, sounds good,\nbody is OK, he wants $3000.\ni liked the car, despite it's auto tranny, but my wife will be a primary\ndriver on this one, and she wants auto.\nThe radio does not work untill the car warms up and you honk the horn (!)\nThe A\/C seems to have a leak. \nThe sunroof is sticky, but operational.\nOdometer does not work, as mentioned before.\nIdle is a bit bouncy, going from 900rpm to 1200rpm.\nWipers are slow.\nThat's teh gripes. The owner says that he changed radiator, alternator, \nrotors and calipers, exhaust.\nThe biggest problem, is that the owner is a shifty SOB, telling strange\nstories. I hate that. I would never buy from a persom like that, except, how\noften you see a descent 528i for that amount of money. He also said that,\nalthough I could bring a mechanicin, he wouldn't let me check the car by taking \nit to a garage. Suspicious. And who knows what milage is on it.\nSo, let me know what to check for, given there's practically no rust.\nI know there was an article on 528i in R&D a few years back, anybody remembers\nwhat issue?\nMike.S\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nLook nobody asked those countries about their UN forces\nto be on the ground.  They can take their forces which are\nincomponent and ineffective at the first place.  And let whoever are\nwilling to do the job what it takes.  How anyone can defend this\nstinking UN force on the ground who let the Bosnnian PM\nyanked out from the UN vehicle and being shot by the Serbian\nmilitary?  How anyone can defend this UN force who are just watching\nthe shelling on cities and towns everyday?  How anyone can\ndefend and say those stinking UN forces being effective\nwhen Bosnian had almost 14,000 children casualties between 5-14 age \ngroups?  I think talking about the current UN forces to Bosnian\nmuslims is just an insult to their casualties.   \n\nI think Senator Biden said it all what has to be said on this issue.\nEurope is a sad place to criticize human rights in anywhere in this \nworld.  Like Biden said, they are the bigots when it comes to \ncultural difference and minorty closer to their home.\nBecause they get rid of their minorities long long time\nago starting in 15th centuries.  And they let Adolph\nto take care of the rest in 20th Century.  But he was much more \nnaughty than they expected because he dared to step many \ntoes.  So, why spoil the good thing now when Serbs doing today what \nthey were thinking the same yesterday.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\tJust a quick question.  What standard lab solvents can be used to\nclean electronic equipment and components safely (ie not corrode, dissolve,\nshort-out, etc the equipment)?\n\twater?\t:-)\n\tmethanol?\n\tCCl4?\n\tetc?\nI am not an electronics type (surprise, surprise), and I want to avoid using\nfreons.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Copyright 1993 Agence France Presse\n                          Agence France Presse\n\nHEADLINE: Egyptian arrested after mock threat to blow up  Iran's\nParis mission\n\nDATELINE: PARIS\n\nBODY:\n\n     PARIS, April 16 (AFP) - An Egyptian man held police at bay\nfor several hours outside the Iranian Embassy here, threatening\nto blow up the building to protest against terrorism and\nfundamentalism.\n\n      The man in his thirties, who was identified only as \"an\nEgyptian national ,\" displayed a banner outside the embassy\ngate and said he was in possession of several sticks of dynamite\nhe threatened to set off.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Did you by any chance see the pictures of the agents in flak jackets climbing\nup on the roof and breaking windows.  You call that peaceful?  If you\nbelieved, as these people did, that they would be attacked by evil forces\nfrom the outside, found the scores of agents breaking into your compound\nwhat would you do?  Your beliefs always determine your actions.  The\nbeliefs may be wrong from my point of view but they are yours all the same.\n\nTo make it more practical.  If I attempted to stick you with a needle you\nwould try to stop me because you believe it would hurt, or that I do not\nhave that right.  If you did not you would ignore me.  You certainly would\nit you saw me sticking the needle in a tree.\n\nKoresh may have been misguided, only God knows.  But the Jews at Masada\ndied for what they believed, the three Hebrews preferred to die in the\nfurnace rather than bow down, Daniel preferred to die in a lion's den\nrather than stop praying to his God, and as a Christian I am prepared to\ndie for my faith.\n\nKoresh was not dying for now reason.  He had a cause.  Why should he give\nup the children to forces he was convinced were evil.  The events are\nbizarre but they match his beliefs.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":": >IS3does anyone know whether or not it is possible to have 2 monitors working\n: >IS3with Microsoft Windows 3.1? I have a Taxan Multi Vision 550 and a NEC\n\n: This may work when using a VGA and a Hercules card in one system, but\n: using two VGA-cards in one system will never work. \n\nI believe that two 8514 (8514\/A?) may be used in tandem on one system.\nThis is the one exception to the VGA+Mono dual monitor combo that I\nhave heard about.  Has anybody done this?","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nWith one exception, that's a pretty good description of many of the\nBaptists I know.  The exception is that they know the difference\nbetween an M-16 and an AR-15.  Heck - they even know that \"it looks\nlike Richard Petty's stock car\" doesn't mean \"it's a racing stock\ncar\".  They may be uncouth, but they've figured out that appearance\nisn't function.\n\n-andy","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nActually, Keith Hernandez is the best.\n\n                                    -Sean\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Since loading Windows, two of my DOS applications have been\nacting strangely.  It appears that font changes and page\norientation changes (so far) are not being recognized in\nWordPerfect\/DOS and QuattroPro\/DOS.  Another DOS application\ndoes accept font and page orientation changes, so I don't\nthink the problem is with the printer.\n\nI reloaded QuattroPro, and these changes are still not\naccepted whether launching from Windows or the DOS prompt.\n\nDoes anyone have any suggestions as to where to look or how to\ncorrect this problem?  I've ordered QuattroPro for Windows,\nbut need a landscape application printed immediately.  Please e-mail.\n\nThanks in advance!","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"It's the number of legs on a centipede.\nSo, now you know.\n\n\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\tLet me guess: you're not a psycho-analyst in real life, but you play \none on alt.atheism. Right?\n\n\n\tIs ESP something you have been given by God?\n---\n\nPrivate note to Jennifer Fakult.\n\n        \"This post may contain one or more of the following:\n         sarcasm, cycnicism, irony, or humor. Please be aware \n         of this possibility and do not allow yourself to be \n         confused and\/or thrown for a loop. If in doubt, assume\n         all of the above.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Note:  I'm not posting this as part of an argument with Roger Meynard,\nbut as an independent sort of thread.  I do actually quote some things\nthat Roger Meynard wrote, but it might be better to think of this as\n\"sampling\" his post (in the hip-hop sense) because it fits in with what\nI want to say.\n\n\nThere's an interesting parallel between this way of viewing a baseball\nteam and some people's conception of a biological organism.  In the\nbiology context, we would very likely read \"fitness\" for \"the score of\nthe game\" and \"organisms\" for \"teams\".  How we interpret \"players\" is\ntrickier, but either \"organs\", or \"genes\" might seem reasonable\nchoices depending on what point we were trying to make.  A \"genes\"\ninterpretation actually might be really interesting in this case, \nbut that would be a different and probably longer post.\n\nIf, however, we take the \"organ\" view, then our knowledge of biology\nshould make us pause before we start saying things like \"species X is\nmore fit than species Y because of a better organ Z\".  Given what we\nknow about the interdependence of organs, we would often be suspicious\nof such claims.  (But note that this type of argument is quite often\nmade when you map \"species X\" onto 'humans', and \"organ Z\" onto\n'brain').  On the other hand, some statements of this kind do seem\nmore reasonable than others, as far as we can test them (e.g. 'brain'\nabove might be more reasonable than 'pancreas' assuming no gross\npathology, particularly if species Y is a primate).\n\nEven when you make such statements, you should be concerned with the\nfunctioning of the whole organism, and the possibility that one organ\nmight be more crucial for one species and a second organ in another.\n(Not to mention the possibility that no organ is particularly crucial\nin some third species.)  However, if we are non-vitalists with any\nkind of reductionsit streak, we will want to say that an organism is\nnot some completely magical unanalyzable \"whole\" but an intriguing\nprocess made up of various subprocesses that interact in ways that are\npotentially observable.  Some of these processes might be localized to\nparticular organs, while others may be distributed across multiple\norgans.  In a way, this is just like a baseball team, except that I\nthink it is pretty clear that the processes and interactions involved\nin baseball are *much* simpler and less numerous than in most organisms.\n\n\nOne thing that is quite difficult about baseball is that perfectly\ncontrolled experiments are sometimes very tough to do.  But, of\ncourse, this has never stopped researchers from doing the best they\ncan, and sometimes deriving very powerful conclusions even in the\nabsence of certainty.  Most of this goes far beyond sheer speculation,\nbut even sheer speculation can motivate further interesting research.\n\n\nIn this cases, we're seeing the word \"statistics\" means \"summary of\nobserved events\", where the events themselves can be viewed as the\noutput of some process, and possibly inputs for other processes.\nThus, if we have any valid notion of how the processes are put together\ninto the functioning organism, data in the form of statistics might\ngive us a basis to test particular hypotheses.\n\n\nThis statement brings us back to the concept of fitness again.\nFitness is defined in terms of both an organism and its environment;\nyou might be fit in one situation and not another.  Moving to\nbaseball, it is clear that each team spends the entire season in an\nenvironment including all the other teams in the league.  In at least\na nominal sense, the division winners are the fittest teams in the\nleague, in that they (on average) had better fitness scores than any\nof their competing opponennts.  But in a real sense, there is a fairly\nlarge random component in the performance of each team that is\ndifficult if not impossible to account for in terms of factors\nintrinsic to (or interesting for) baseball.  The same is true in\nbiology.  But here is also no direct biological equivalent of the\nWorld Series in basebal.  In the world series, the random component\nmay be greatly magnified by the small number of games that are played,\nand both teams suddenly experience huge changes from the environement\nwhere they were originally successful.  It might be fun to watch, but\nit's unclear what it all really means.\n\n***\n\nNow just one more un-related point:\n\n\nOn the other hand, you have seen some of us who can predict the\noutcome of the divisional races better than a random assignment of\nteams to finishes, and maybe some of us (e.g. me) who can do this\nbetter than the other participants in this forum on a regular basis.\nBut this is probably only due to the fact that a 162-game schedule\ngives you a little hope that bad hops aren't the only difference\nbetween the winners and the losers.\n\nMoreover, you've had the opportunity to see some analysis of the World\nSeries situation that makes the strong claim that *nobody* can predict\nthe WS winner with reliably greater accuracy than a coin biased only\nto reflect the well-known home vs. road effect on winning percentage.\n\n\nSince stats are summaries of events, it's true that if you know the\nevents you can derive the stats.  But if somebody is trying to\nunderstand the process behind the stats, then the stats produce new\nknowledge, and some of this might even be reliable, repeatable, and\nuseful.  Speaking of which, I should get back to producing knowledge\nin a different field.  That is, of course, if I can produce knowledge\neven though I'm relying on stats to do it.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nThat's great.  Read my article.  Edit out the personal formality, and save.\n--\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nGeorge Gruschow                                Death do you gronk.\nag625@yfn.ysu.edu                              ggruscho@nyx.cs.du.edu","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Olympus Stylus, 35mm pocket camera. Smallest in its class.  Includes \nTIME & DATE STAMP, BATTERY, & CARRYING CASE.  Red eye reduction, timer\nfully automatic.  Rated #2 in Consumer Reports.  $115 obo.\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I have the following LDs for sale 20 for 1st 15 each additional,\npostage (3rd class) paid.\n\nProject A-ko (Japanese - NO ENGLISH)\nDominion Act-I (Japanese - NO ENGLISH)\nDominion Act-II (Japanese - NO ENGLISH)\n\nFar From the Madding Crowd (LBX)\nWest Side Story (LBX)\nBen Hur (P&S)\nThe Dirty Dozen (P&S)\nStar Trek V (P&S)\nThe Fabuluos Fleischer Folio Vol 1\nTom and Jerry Classics\nBugs Bunny Classics\n\n-- \nbrian\noplinger@ra.crd.ge.com","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I am writing an article on Clipper for Network World.  I am looking for\ncomments and opinions (that I can quote) on the scheme, its implications\nfor security and privacy, its acceptance here and overseas, etc. \n\nI hope this to be a balenced article, with opinions from various quarters.\nThe only  catch is that your name and company affiliation will appear in\nprint.\n\nI am on very tight deadline (I need to finish this Wednesday night).  Please\ncall or E-Mail responses.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":" \n \n \n \n The answer is in the FAQ for this group.  nough said.\n \n ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Jim Haynes wants to know the following is a scam....\n\n       There's a chiropractor who has a stand in the middle of a shopping\n       mall, offering free examinations.  Part of the process involves a\n       multiple-jointed sensor arm and a computer that says in a computer-\n       sounding voice \"digitize left PSIS\" \"digitize right PSIS\" \"digitize\n       C7\" \"please stand with spine in neutral position\".  I'm wondering\n       whether this doesn't really measure anything and the computer voice\n       is to impress the victims, or whether it is measuring something\n       that chiropractors think is useful to measure.\n\nEarth to sci.med....If it looks like a duck...and quacks like a duck......\n\nThis is a TOTAL scam. Since the beginning of chiropraxis, the chiropractor has \ntried to sell The Subluxation as The Problem and then sell themselves and\ntheir Adjustments as The Solution. The Chiropractic Subluxation is a delusional \ndiagnosis and the Adjustments of Subluxations by extension constitute a \ndelusional medicine.\n\nThe wide spectrum of chiropractic Techniques ALL have their own methods for \ndetecting Spinal Demons and unique methodolgies for Excorcizing Them. The \ncomputer approach is an attempt to 'sell with science' but this device is \nnothing more than a 'high-tech' Subluxation Detector.....and in the end...\nAMAZINGLY...it will show the potential 'patient' to suffer from...VS......\nVertebral Subluxation....The Silent Killer!","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"yet another twist ...\n\nI'm expiriencing the same kind of problem with my SE (2.5\/40), although not\nas frequent.\n\nAny suggestions?\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Answers please by e-mail, since not all groups in the header are carried here.\n\nHi!\n\nPersonally, I like NeXTSTEP very much. Even more when I realise how much a  \nburden ordinary X or Windows programming is. I also like Objective-C better  \nthan I like C++.\n\nBut, sometimes the restrictions are there. For instance it sometimes has to be  \nMS-Windows or X. Now I'm looking for pointers to tools on those environments  \nthat come close to NeXTSTEP, the appkit etc. Also, environs that support rapid  \nprototyping (like with IB) without producing spaghetti-code as soon as you want  \nto do real work.\n\nMaybe STEPSTONE with some Windows version of a kit of UI objects? Interviews  \n(what it is exactly, I don't know. I kind of lost touch with that world when I  \nstarted with NeXTSTEP.)\n\nThanks,\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"*********************Sony B+W Watchman TV*********************\n\nSony B+W 2.5 inch TV.  It is in excellent condition.  It has not\nbeen used much at all, thus why I am selling it.  It gets great           $60\nreception.  It sells new for $100 so I am asking $60.  It is small\nenough (3\"x6\"x2\") that you can carry it around anywhere.\n\nPlease e-mail to jbell@eecom.gatech.edu \n-- ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nThere's a difference between believing in the existence of an entity,\nand loving that entity. God _could_ show me directly that he exists,\nand I'd still have a free choice about whether to love him or not. So\nwhy doesn't he?\n-- \n------------------------------------------------------------------------\nKevin Anthoney                                         kax@cs.nott.ac.uk\n            Don't believe anything you read in .sig files.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Thanks for all the responses. I've made contact with the UK distributor :-)\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"In light of the last letter I posted from Jeff Brody concering the crap\nthat is going on in the MOA, (which some folks took not as dissemination \nof information that I received, but as my own bad mouthing) I thought that\nI would post this one, which came to me yesterday.  This is from board member\nRobert Higdon to MOA Pres Chich Morse.  This is NOT my words, O.K. guys?\n\n                                   April 4, 1993\n\nre:  Cecil King's Nominating Statement \n\nDear Chick:\n      We have a very serious problem with the election for president of the \nMOA this year.  Cecil King's nominating statement (as it appeared in the\nOwners News) is 968 words, nearly twice as many as that is permitted by\nthe by-laws.  In pertinent part, the rules state:\n\n\"Each candidate's biography and position statement shall be limited to\na combined total of no more than 500 words. The nominating committe shall cut afafter the 500th word any biography and position statement exceeding this length.\n\n    Obviously the nominationg committe was not up to the task.  Had Cecil's\nstatement been cut as required, it would have concluded approximately with\nthe word \"undertiding\" [sic] in the second paragraph after the commencement\nof his Position Statement.  As a result, Cecil has obtained what I view as a\ngrossly unfair advantage over the other candidates for president.  This does\nnot just taint the election for that office; it makes a mockery of the \nprocess.  I would appreciate your advising the board immediately what steps\nyou intend to take to rectify this caricature of a fair election.\n     Parenthetically, in your private correspondence with others, I would\nbe most appreciative that when tou call me an \"asshole\" you remind the\nletter's recipient that the re-publication of such a comment is almost\nguaranteed to have woeful consequences.\n   With kind regards, I remain,\n                                 Robert Higdon","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"You CAN print to a file from an HP (or any other printer).  Just go into\nthe Printers section of your Control Panel.  Select the printer you want\nto re-direct to a file, and click on Connect.  Then choose :FILE as the\nport to connect the printer to.\n\nWhen you print from any application to that printer, Windows will prompt\nyou for a file name for the file into which you want to capture the\nprintout.\n\nIt's pretty easy.\n\nGood luck!\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nThe private insurance industry skims the cream off the milk...simple.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\tCould you speak up? I can't hear you....\n\n\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nThat's a good way to put it.  It's a quiet confidence.  I don't feel like\nI have to defend this team anymore. \n\nThe Devils are a puzzle to me.  They have long been one of the few teams\nI always dreaded playing.  Their D isn't quite what it used to be but they\nstill usually play us pretty tough.  I just can't figure it out.  At least\nlast night they mounted an attack.\n\n\nBernie Nichols was interviewed after Game 2 on the late news.  He was\nshaking his head in disbelief over Barrasso, saying that Tommy is like\nanother defenseman out there and how difficult it is playing against him.\nThen he got this far-away look on his face, his voice started trailing\noff and he said, \"It just isn't right...it just isn't fair...\" and he\ntried to muster a smile.\n\n\nAs far as coaching goes, a Pens\/Islanders match-up should be pretty good.\n\nOne guy I feel sorry for in all of this so far is Chris Terreri.  I'm sure\nTom Barrasso knows how he feels.  For so long Tommy would look up and not\nhave a teammate in sight.  Terreri's teammates really left him out in the\ncold in the first two games.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nThis is not correct.  The event horizon is not the \"center\" of the black\nhole but merely the distance at which the escape velocity is equal to the\nspeed of light.  That is, the event horizon is a finite radius...","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Well, renaming screensavers (.scr) to .exe, and running them, as has\nbeen pposted, (I haven't tried changing win.ini , but should have same\neffect) shows me the \"setup\" dialog. box, butdoesn't enable the saver.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I know there's been a lot of talk about Jack Morris' horrible start,\nbut what about Dennis Martinez.  Last I checked he's 0-3 with 6+ ERA.\nIs the ageless wonder finally showing his age?  Does he usually start\noff the season so slowly?  I know he plans to start tonight.   I hope\nhe comes around....\n\nI would appreciate any feedback concerning outlook on rest of Dennis\nMartinez's season...\n\nThanks in advance,","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I need triangulized data of some nice looking model with some\ntexture mapping. It would be better if the parametric values\nof each vertex( for the surface before triangulized ) are\navaliable along with the Euclidean points so that we\ncould use them for texture mapping.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I have a Headland Technologies Video Seven VRAMII board that only\ncame with 512K, at the time this was ok but...\n\nI need info or help with upgrading this board to 1 Mbyte.  There are\n2 rows of pins over the VRAM chips, I think for a piggyback board\nof VRAM.  I would like to hear from anyone that may be able to help\nme upgrade this board.  Maybe someone from Headland who maybe read-\ning this has one of these piggyback boards just laying around, please\nplease please!\n\nDoes anyone know of where I could maybe buy the upgrade for this?  I\nwould sure love to use this in 800X600-256 color mode but for the time\nbeing, I can only get 3\/4 of the screen with the bottom part a white\nstrip, obviously because of the missing VRAM, actually I'm surprised\nit even works to this degree at all!","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nIs this reverisible?  You can unpoke as easy as you poke?\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nWell, again, I am doing as much as the poster I was replying too. I am\nquite busy and really don't have the time to respond in full scholarly\nform to every accusation that is flippantly made by someone who's \nbeing clearly antagonistic.\n\n\n\n\nI have considered it. But if someone spreads falsehoods out of\nignorance then they are still spreading falsehoods. Those falsehoods\ngenerally do not come out of nowhere but are produced by people\nwho know that what they are saying is (at _least_) not the whole\ntruth. I still consider such spreading of falsehoods propaganda\non some level.\n\n\n\n\nBob, I never accused you of having your head up your ass! It takes\nme quite some time in dealing with someone before accusing them of\nhaving their head up their ass. I was accusing the original poster\n(Benedikt, I believe) of being so impaired.\n\n\nCheers,","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nPersonal attacks?  \n\n\nDeliberate misinterpretation of a persons statement?  (By cutting out\nthe part of the statement, he tries to blunt the thrust of the sentence.\nHe never addresses the issue of extreemist peace people not holding true\nto their ideals.)\n\n\nIgnoring the challenge?  (He ignores the challenge that extreemists for\npeace tend to be quite insistent that everyone accept their ideals for\nthe world, and have even turned quite violent.  (Witness, Chicago, summer\n1968)).\n\n\nParanoia?  (He assumes that anyone who argues against his viewpoint must\n\"masturbate over Guns'N'Ammo.\")\n\nFire up the Oven, it isn't hot enough!\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Computer Equipment Garage Sale:\n\nI've finally decided to clean out my closets and get rid of some of the stuff\nthat is broken or not being used by me.  I've put together a list and\nindicated what I think each item is worth.  This is just my estimate, and I\nam very open to any offers, including trades.  I'm currently looking for\nsome CD-ROMs that will work with a Mac CD ROM player CD Caddies, HD floppy \ndisks, any used Macintosh software, a 387-33Mhz Co-Processor, or basically \nanything you have lying around (cans of soup, the neighbor's cat, etc...)  \nMake me an offer, no offer will be overlooked... \nI really want to get rid of this stuff...\n\nOk, Here's the list:\n\n52 Meg 3.5\" SCSI Hard Drive.  Conner Model #CP-3150.  I bought this from a guy\n\tat a swap meet to use with my Macintosh.  Unfortunately, I can't seem \n\tto get it to work with the SCSI controller in my computer.  The\n\tguy tested it with his PC, and printed out a copy of the Norton Disk \n\tDoctor report which says it has no bad sectors. (I'll send you a copy) \n\tI was dumb enough not to get his phone number, so I can't return it to \n\thim. The drive has many jumpers on it, (which I don't know how to set) \n\tso maybe that's the problem.  I was quite disappointed that it didn't\n\twork so I'm trying to minimize my losses.\t~$45\n\n52 Meg 3.5\" SCSI Hard Drive. Conner Model #CP-3150.  Same situation as above.\n\tI bought both of these drives from the same guy.  Despite the different\n\tmodel numbers they are the same exact drive.  Same report from NDD\n\t(I have one for each drive) will be included.\t~$45\n\n40 Meg SONY 3.5\" SCSI Hard Drive.  SONY Model #SRD2040A.  The drive mechanism \n\tis completely trashed.  This hard drive was in my computer (Mac SE) and\n\thad a stiction problem.  Well, repeated banging on the side of the\n\tcomputer resulted in a head crash (yes, metal scraping metal) which\n\twas not too pleasant to listen to.  Still the SCSI controller\n\tcard is in good working order, and can be used for parts, or a \n\tproject.\t~$20\n\n65 Meg Seagate 5.25\" HH SCSI Hard Drive.  Model #ST-277N.  I originally bought\n\tthis drive, because it had a small stiction problem, and I though that\n\tI could fix it.  Well I determined that the drive mechanism was fine,\n\tand that it was a controller problem.  (motor controller wasn't sending\n\tproper signals.)  Well, after taking the controller off the drive, \n\tlooking at it, and putting it back together, I realized that I\n\taccidentally severed one of the small flat cables that connect the \n\tdrive to the controller.  I tried to solder it, but I'm not that good\n\tat soldering so I couldn't do it.  Worked perfectly before I messed\n\tup.  I used it as a temporary drive when the SONY (above) crashed on\n\tme.  Also loaded the drive with about twenty Mac applications,\n\tworth well over $1000.  (Claris CAD, MS Word 5.0, Think C,\n\tExcel, and many others) \n\tI think all it needs is a resoldering of that cable.  You also get all\n\tthe software on the drive. (if you can accept being a pirate)  I only \n\task that you delete my data files from the drive.  I was really angry\n\twhen I broke that connection, and then couldn't fix it.  I just don't \n\thave time to play with it any more.\t~$65\n\nAT&T ISDN 7500 Modem.  This is for use on digital phone systems.  If you know\n\twhat this is or would like technical information on it, let me know.  I\n\thave some tech documents on it.  Is supposed to be the same thing as an\n\tAT&T digital phone, but without the phone part.  It seems to be in  \n\tworking order (passes self test perfectly OK).  I have no idea how \n\tthis is worth...   Let me know if you're interested.\n\nMotorola 68881 CoProcessor.  I haven't tested this one out yet, but if anyone \n\tis interested I will get it tested out, to make sure that it works.  I\n\thad trouble using it with my accelerator board, but then I spoke to the\n\tmanufacturer of the board and found out it couldn't be used without \n\tanother controller chip.  When I was looking around to buy one new, the\n\tprices were around $100.  I will guarantee this to work.\t~$65\n\nCGA Card.  Half-Length. 8-bit.  Wasn't working last time I checked (although\n\tI think I was using a bad monitor)\t~$5\n\n5.25\"\t360K Floppy Drive.  IBM Drive Type 1355.  Guaranteed to work, \n\tbecause when I took it out of the PC, it was working!\t\t~$25\n\n5.25\" 360K Floppy Drive.  Toshiba Model Number ND-08DE-A.  Guaranteed to \n\twork.  Came out of same PC as above.\t~$25\n\n5.25\"\tFloppy Drives.  Can't guarantee that these will work.  I don't\n\teven know if they are low or high density drives.  I don't have\n\tany method of testing them.\n\t\tPanasonic Model number: JU-455-5 ACG.  There's another\n\t\t\tnumber on it: 2626-361723.\n\t\tPanasonic Model number: JU-475-2 AGG.  There's also\n\t\t\tanother number on it: H3649-101457\n\t\tToshiba Model Number ND-08DE.  Virtually identical to the one \n\t\t\tabove.\n\tEach Drive ~$10\n\n3.5\" PS\/2 Drive.  These things are proprietary, so I can't test it, but I\n\tthink it works.  Not sure if it's high density or low density, but I\n\tsuppose someone who is looking for one would know.  Model Number\n\tDFL413C04A.  I think these things are expensive to replace.  ~$35\n\nMFM Hard Drive Controller Cards.  I've got three of these, and I have no way\n\tof testing them.  Two of them are 8-bit cards, and one is a sixteen bit\n\tcard with a floppy controller built in.\t~$10 for the 8-bits ~$15 for\n\tthe 16-bit card w\/floppy.\n\nInteresting cable.  Seems to convert from a VGA plug to an EGA plug.  That is,\n\tstandard nine-pin to VGA 15 pin. Made by Hewlett Packard.  Part No.\n\tD1181-80020\t\t~$10\n\n\n\nI've sold stuff like this before, and it was a huge success, with many \nsatisfied people trading or bartering stuff they didn't need anymore.  I \nusually ship through the U.S. Postal Service (haven't had any problems yet) \nand the shipping costs will be split or negotiated.\n\nWell, that's all folks.  As I said before, no offer will be refused.  If you \ncan convince me to give OCit to you instead of throwing it out, TRY!  I hate\nto throw away stuff...\n\n\n-Wayne","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"something that no one has discussed yet (or I missed it):\n\nThe FBI sets up a wiretap AFTER the court order was handed. \nOnly at this point they can access the line and detect \nthe serial number N.\n\nWhat happens next, does the FBI simply asks for the keys\nfor N, and, since a warrant was issued for the line, the FBI \nsimply gets it? What if multiple phones are used from the\nsame house, the FBI just asks for N1, N2, etc.?\n\nExactly who is to prevent the FBI from claiming some\nother serial number, X, was also used over the wirtapped \nline and get the keys for X? \n\nEither a second court order (for the specific serial\/key)\nis required (and I have seen no indication of this), or\nthe FBI can effectively ask for any pair of keys at any\ntime, so the escrow key holders are a total fake.\n\nAn unrelated issue: if and when all phones always use\nthe clipper chip, how are call-transfers going to take \nplace?!\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"So what's the deal with the PDS slot in the IIsi?\n\nI recently purchased a Mac IIsi.  I want to add a non-Apple monitor to the\nsystem.  I was told that you could buy a 90 degree angled PDS to NuBus adaptor\ncard so you can fit a standard NuBus card into the computer.\n\nAm I mistaken or do have to buy a PDS monitor card specifically for the IIsi?\nI've seen the PDS monitor cards for the si, but they seem expensive, and I'm\nnot exactly made of money.\n\nAny ideas?  Help.  Clue me in!\n--\n\nRandy L. Riegsecker\n---------------------------------------------------------------------\n\"Barney must die.\"  I need somebody to shove.\n---------------------------------------------------------------------","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"The tech support line for GCC is 1-800-231-1570.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"79 Toyota Corolla 4D hatchback, runs OK, needs dents smoothed, serious\nbrake work and miscellaneous TLC.  Excellent auto shop project.  $250 \nOBO.  See in Algonquin or Schaumburg.  (708) 658-5285, (708) 576-0675,\nor email.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Hello Netter,\n\n\tI want to uprade the power supply of my SE\/30 in which \na 8 bit color card is installed.\nI know CRC COMPONENTS, Inc. deals the compatible power supply of SE\/30\nmanifactured by POWER PLUS SYSTEMS.\nDoes anyone know their phone or FAX number of them ?\nPlease reply me by e-mail.\nThanks,","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
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{"text":"\nWell, as I remember Jacoby's \"Mythmaker\" talks about this to cite\none source -- but I'm not sure if all Christians have read this book.\nIn addition my social experiences is from being raised and educated\nas a Lutheran, having a lot of Christian friends, and I even\nhave played in two Christian rock bands!\n\nSo, over to you, do you have any counter claims, sources et \nrest that shows that Christianity does not have the concept\nof a social promise that is independent on the social status?\n\nCheers,\nKent","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Hi. \nI have a friend who is interested in subscribing to this newsgroup.\nUnfortunatly she does not have usenet access. If someone could send\nher a faq and info on how to subscribe, we'd be very appreciative If\nyou want to send it to me, you can and I will get it to her. I do not\nread this newsgroup regularly though so e-mail please.\nThank you\nJody\n-- \n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nJody Rebecca\t\tColby College\t\tMajors: History\/Sociology\n\t\t\tClass o' '94            \nE-Mail:  jrgould@colby.edu\n\t samuel@paul.rutgers.edu\n\nFantasy, Music, Colors, and Animals will lead this society out of oppression.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nApparently the instinct to brake in the face of danger isn't as strong \nas the instinct to freeze up and do nothing in the face of danger.  Hurt\nfound that a surprising number of accident-involved motorcyclists hadn't\nused their brakes at all prior to impact.  \n\nI think the only way you'll ever use countersteering reliably and correctly in \na crisis is to make it the only conscious method of directional control you\never use, and to practice it constantly, even when you have no need to do\nany turning.  If you follow me down a long straight, and I seem to be \nwiggling back and forth randomly or suddenly without obvious need, it's because\nI'm practicing countersteering and avoiding imaginary obstacles directly in\nmy path.  All of this practice may indeed be futile, but if I have even\nmilliseconds to react, the most *familiar* tactic available (and hopefully \nthe most automatic) will be countersteering.  The same logic applies to braking\nwith the front brake, of course.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Can somebody help me out of this.....\n\nI just installed the Version 104 of McAFree anti-virus program and when i\ntried to scan the entire hard disk, i got the message of \"Sorry, I can't open\nxxxx\" for a couple of files, including the WScan104.exe. This didn't happen \nbefore (in previous  version) nor appear on my friend's machine. ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nSince Facts and Myths doesn't even know where Deir Yassin was,\nwhy should we pay any attention to the rest of what it says?\n\n\nThis account from Eric Silver is the only valid point that M&F makes.\nYou can find it together with other evidence and analysis in \nSilver's biography of Begin.  Also in Silver's book you will find\ndocumentary evidence that nearly everything else in M&F's account\nis pure bullshit.\n\n\nThis is pretty disgusting.  The Guardian was told of one or two\nfeeble old men who dressed in women's clothing in a pathetic \nattempt to escape death.  See Silver's book.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"For Sale:\n\nInformix WingZ Graphic Spreadsheet with Hyperscript\n-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\n\n Version 1.1\n Runs under Windows\n Network ready\n 5.25\" distribution\n\n Brand new, Unopened\n\n  $150\n\n Shipping not included\n\nEmail queries, responses, flames to:","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nWhat's despicable is that this sordid incident is being glommed onto by all\nsorts of people desperately trying to \"get a revolution.\" It makes\n\"ambulance chasing\" by lawyers seem like a harmless pastime.\n\nFor the last few months, benighted souls have been calling C-SPAN on issues\nas mundane as budget resolutions, saying that \"I don't know, I just have\nthe feeling there is going to be a revolution in this country,\" and so on.\n\nGet real! For a real case study in revolution, go to Blockbuster Video\nand check out \"Underground,\" a film made about the Weather Underground in\nthe 70's. Even with all the strife back then, the \"revolution\" never did\ncome. And Waco is supposed to be the spark of the end times?\n\nIn the tape, it is interesting to see the way the Weatherpersons dance\naround the issue of one of their defining moments, which was when a few\nof their comrades managed to blow themselves up manufacturing bombs in\na Greenwich village townhouse. The problem, one of them said, was that\nthey were so caught up in their armed struggle that they *forgot* about\ntheir own personal safety and weren't \"careful.\" But of course that was\n*society's* fault, a society that didn't instill a sense of worth in\nthe people, so they neglect their own safety.\n\nCurrent apologists for Koresh may pick up some important rationalization\ntips from this tape!\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Interesting point.  The Bible doesn't say \"hate the sin\".\nIt tells to avoid sin, resist sin, even, when necessary, denounce sin.\nBut not hate.\n\n\n-- \n:-  Michael A. Covington, Associate Research Scientist        :    *****\n:-  Artificial Intelligence Programs      mcovingt@ai.uga.edu :  *********\n:-  The University of Georgia              phone 706 542-0358 :   *  *  *\n:-  Athens, Georgia 30602-7415 U.S.A.     amateur radio N4TMI :  ** *** **  <><\n\n[The following passages all talk about God or people God approves of\nhating sin or some other action.  Ps 119:113 also talks about hating\nthe sinner.  I believe there are other passages that would talk about\nhating someone who is evil, but I didn't turn them up in this search\n(which was on the word \"hate\" in the KJV, though I've crosschecked\neach passage in the NRSV).\n\nPs 97:10, 101:3, 105:25, 119:104, 113, 128, 163, , 139:21-22\nProv 6:16, 8:13\nIsa 61:8\nAmos 5:15\nZec 8:17\nRev 2:6","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\"I'm afraid I'm going to have to kill you.  Don't worry, though; as a Loving\nChristian, I guarantee that I will regret the fact that I have to kill\nyou, although I won't regret the actual killing.\"\n\n\nFalse dichotomy.\n\n\nThat's because they weren't even attempted.\n\n\nYou want to know why it bothers me that thousands of innocent people were\nmaimed or killed by bombing at the end of WW2, when it was far from clear\nthat such bombing was necessary?\n\n\nAnd why-is-it-that-way?  Who set things up to be that way?\n\n\nNo, just the ones that have oil.  Or the ones that look like they might make\na success of Communism.\n\n\nI don't see that getting UN forces to East Timor is any harder than getting\nthem to Iraq.\n\n\nFine.  Write to your Congressman and to President Clinton.  China's status as\n\"Most Favoured Nation\" comes up for renewal in June.  Point out that the US\nshouldn't be offering favourable trading terms to such a despicable regime.\n\nI doubt anything will happen.  Clinton's keener on trade sanctions against\nEurope.\n\n[ Unbelievable comments about the Rodney King case deleted ]\n\n\nAny idea how many kill files you just ended up in?\n\n\nThe ends justify the means, eh?\n\n\nThe same tired old misunderstanding.  Moral relativism means that there is no\n*objective* standard of morality.  It doesn't mean you can't judge other\npeople's morals.  Christ on a bike, how many times have we tried to hammer\nthat into your head?\n\n\nObviously not, as I am an atheist.  I don't think you'd get on with Jesus,\nthough; he was a long-haired lunatic peace-nik, was he not?\n\n\nRight.  Unfortunately for you, it turned out that my opinions on the matter\nwere entirely consistent in that I condemned the bombing of Dresden too.\n\nI think you're being a bit glib with your explanation of the blanket bombing\npolicy, too.  You make it sound as though we were aiming for military targets\nand could only get them by destroying civilian buildings next door.  As I\nunderstand it, that is not the case; we aimed deliberately at civilian\ntargets in order to cause massive damage and inspire terror amongst the\nGerman people.\n\n\nOh, come on.  With wars like the Falklands fresh in people's minds, that sort\nof propaganda isn't going to fool anyone.\n\n\nYes?  And what about the millions of casualties the Russians suffered?  It's\nhardly surprising the US didn't lose many men in WW2, given that you turned\nup late.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nNote that the filesize .dll is a part of the Windows Resource Kit. If\nyou install it (and you can download it from Cica), it will make the\nappropriate changes itself.\n\nkartik\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"From article <May.13.02.28.48.1993.1471@geneva.rutgers.edu>, by creps@lateran.ucs.indiana.edu (Stephen A. Creps):\n\nJust a little issue of semantics:\n\nWould it not be better, then to call it \"pre-determination\"?!\n\n--\n\n   RRRRR        OO       BBBBB          :\n   R    R     OO  OO     B    B         :\n   R     R   OO    OO    B    BB        :          Robert Pomeroy\n   R   RR    O      O    B    B         :\n   RRRR      O      O    BBBBB          :        u2i02@keele.ac.uk\n   R  R      O      O    B    B         :\n   R   R     OO    OO    B    BB        :              1993\n   R    R     OO  OO     B    B         :\n   R     R      OO       BBBBB          :\n\n\n\n  My address }\n    during   }    Hawthorns Hall, KEELE, Staffordshire, ST5 5AE. England.\n  term-time. }\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nI DID NOT WRITE THAT!  In fact, those statements were a rebuttal to\nan earlier posting that I made, and this was culled from my *strong*\nrebuttal to those statements.  PLEASE!  Slander.  Shame.\n\n\n\n\n\"after the game, it's no big deal\" ????   After the employees leave\nthe workplace, it doesn't matter what they say about the boss or the\ncompany?  Puhlease.\n\n\n\n\nFirst, it's Ross Porter.  Second, I am really tired of seeing the kind\nof response that indicates that all I do is parrot what some media\nperson says or writes.  I have a brain.  If I choose to characterize\nsomething in a certain fashion, it's because that is what I believe\nto be accurate.  It is not just because some unnamed \"mediot\" made\nthe characterization.  \n\n\nI did *not* brand Darryl's response as petulant, because I never heard\nany response from Darryl.  I did call him a name.  I referred to him \nas a primadonna.  Someone else concluded that I did that because I\n\"hate\" him.  I don't hate him.  I think he's a primadonna.  If you\ndisagree, fine.  But stop putting words in my mouth.\n\n\n\n--\tThe Beastmaster\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nNot in isolated ground recepticles (usually an unusual color, such as orange\nor yellow) often used in low noise, low leakage applications, as mentioned\nearlier in the thread.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nMy Nissan Quest has been doing 20mpg city, though its first few tanks\nwere more like 17mpg.  The V6 and AT are remarkably smooth.\n---\n---------------------------------------------------------------------------\nJohnny P. Stephens           | Sig file upgrade on backorder.  Will be\nDistance Learning Technology | here \"any day now.\"\nArizona State University     |  Opinions expressed are mine.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"RAPTURE - OCTOBER 28, 1992\n\n\t\tWHAT TO DO IN CASE YOU MISS THE RAPTURE\n\nI. STAY CALM AND DO NOT PANIC\n\n\tYour natural reaction once you realize what has just occurred is to\npanic.  But to do so is absolutely useless now.  If you had wanted to get right\nwith God before the rapture, you could have, but you chose to wait.  Now your \nonly chance is to stay on this earth and to endure to the end of the \nTribulation.  \"But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be \nsaved.\" - Matthew 24:13\n\nII. REALIZE YOU ARE NOW LIVING DURING THE GREAT TRIBULATION\n\n\tThe Great Tribulation is a seven year period starting from the time of\nthe rapture until Christ's second coming.  Also know as \"the time of Jacob's\n(Israel's) trouble\" (Jere 30:7) and \"Daniel's Seventieth Week\" (Dan 9), this \nperiod will be unparalleled in trouble and horror.\n\nIII. GATHER AS MANY BIBLES AS YOU CAN AND HIDE THEM\n\n\tSoon after the Antichrist becomes the leader of the European Community \n(the revived Roman Empire), Bibles will be confiscated and owning a Bible will\nbe tantamount to treason.  The Bible, however, will be your most valuable \npossession during the Tribulation.\n\nIV. READ THE BIBLE LIKE YOU HAVE NEVER READ IT BEFORE IN YOUR LIFE\n\n\tSince all of your Bibles may be confiscated, even if you are careful, it\nis imperative that you read the Word until you memorize whole passages and can\nquote them.  It is especially important to read Daniel, Luke 21, Matthew 24, \nRevelation, and Amos, for these books describe the events you can expect to\nunfold before you.  \n\nV. PRAY LIKE YOU HAVE NEVER PRAYED BEFORE IN YOUR LIFE\n\n\tPray until the power of God comes strongly upon you - pray and pray \nand pray.  Only by reading the Word and praying will you gain the spiritual \nstrength to be able to withstand the torture you may have to endure for the\nsake of Christ.  \n\nVI. DO NOT TAKE THE MARK AT ANY COST - EVEN IN FIT MEANS YOU AND YOUR LOVED\nONES DIE AS MARTYRS\n\n\tAfter the Antichrist becomes the leader of the European Community, he\nwill institute a world economic system, designed so that you cannot buy, sell,\nor eat unless you take his mark or the number of his name.  Money will be\nuseless.  \"And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and \nslave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that\nno one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, \nor the number of his name.  Here is wisdom.  Let him who has understanding\ncalculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number\nis 666\" - Revelation 13:16-18.  \n\tThe Antichrist will implement the greatest slaughter in all of \nhumanity.  Think of the various ways people have been tortured and killed\nin the past, such as the Holocaust.\n[or maybe the crusades? -M]\nYou cannot even imagine the horror that will take place under the Antichrist's\nrule; it will be much worse than anything in history (Matt 24:21) \"...I saw\nunder the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and\nfor the testimony which they held.  And a white robe was given to each of \nthem: and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, \nuntil both the number of the fellow servants and their brethren, who would be\nkilled as they were, was completed.\" Revelation 6:9, 11.\n\tHis targets will be Jews and Christians who do not worship his image\nor take the mark on their forehead or right hadn\/ \"...And I saw the souls of \nthose who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of \nGod, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark\non their foreheads or on the hands.\" - Revelation 20:4.  He will use every\nform of torture and humiliation in order to force you to renounce Christ.  Nor\nwill he hesitate to use your loved ones against you, even your children, \ntorturing and killing them in front of you so that you will be tempted to take\nthe mark.  \n\tIf you take the mark or worship the Antichrist or his image, however,\nyou will be consigned to the second death, which is the Lake of Fire.\n[Sung about so eloquently by Johnny Cash...-M]\nYou cannot be redeemed.  It is better to endure torture for a short while and\ngain eternal life then [sic] to endure eternal torment in the Ring^H^H^H^H Lake\nof Fire.  \"...If anyone worships the Beast and his image, and receives his \nmark on his forehead or on his hand, he himself shall also drink the wine of\nthe wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His \nindignation.  An [sic] he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the \npresence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.\" -Revelation \n14:9-10 \n\n[and probably in the presence of season-ticket holders; special hats given to\nthe first 5,000 at the stadium --M] \n\nVII. SET A PLAN IN MOTION FOR SURVIVAL\n\n\tAlthough you may not be able to hide from the Antichrist's government\nuntil the end of the Tribulation, all of the time you gain in hiding is \nimportant for your spiritual growth and strengthening, since only those who are\nextremely strong in Christ can suffer and die for His sake.\n\tThe first thing to do is move out of the city and into a rural or\nmountainous area, for the Antichrist's control will come last to the least\npopulated areas.  Take a good radio or TV with you so that you can stay \nattuned to events and discern the time schedule of the Tribulation.\n[\"As you can see on the weather map, heavy currents of Tribulation will sweep\ninto our area by daybreak.  Expect delays on I-95 outbound, and perhaps school\nclosings\" --M] \nStore water and food, because you will not be able to purchase anything without\nthe mark.  Water in lakes and streams will be polluted by radioactive waste\nfrom nuclear warfare and will eventually turn into blood.\n[Get a good water filter. --M]\nBring different types of clothing for all seasons, as well as flashlights,\nbatteries, generators, and First Aid supplies.  In short, learn how to \nsurvive and live off the land as the pioneers did.\n\nVIII. TRUST NO ONE\n\t\n\tThere will be secret agents everywhere, spying for the Antichrist's\ngovernment.  Be on the lookout.\n[Perot supporters take note --M]\n\nIX. WATCH FOR THE ANTICHRIST\n\n\tIt is important to realize who the Antichrist is and what he is up to,\nfor he will deceive many into thinking that he is a great world leader who will\nbring peace and prosperity to a world hungry for it.  We can infer from Daniel \n11 certain characteristics of this man.  Popular during the first three and a\nhalf years of the Tribulation, he will dominate the airwaves.  He will be \nphysically appealing, highly intelligent, with Christ-like charisma and \npersonality.  An international politician, military tactician and economic\nexpert, his word will be peace; he will make a treaty with the Jews, which\nhe will break after three and a half years.  He will have such supernatural \npower that a mortal wound to his head will be healed.  Even the very elect will\nbe deceived.  If you do not pray and read the Bible, you too will be deceived.\n[Dominate the airwaves?  Perhaps Howard Stern or Rush Limbaugh...-M]\n\tThe antichrist will have a companion, the False Prohphet [sic], who\nwill make an image in the likeness of the Antichrist and cause it to speak.  \nAll who refuse to worhsip [sic] the image will be killed.  The final three and\na half years will be absolutely insane, with demonized spirits everywhere.\n\nX. DO NOT GIVE UP HOPE!\n\n\tThe seven years of Tribulation will end with the triumphant return of\nChrist.  The Antichrist will be defeated.  Be steadfast and endure, and you \nwill be rewarded greatly in Heaven.  \n\tStart reading the Bible and praying fervently now.  The salvation of \nyour sould depends upon it.  Determine that, come what may, you will not take\nthe mark or worship the Antichrist.  You still have a chance to be saved or\nremain saved, but this time you will have to be \"faithful unto death.\"\n\n\tMay God find you ready in the hour of his glorious return!\n\n******************************************************************************\nMike Cluff\t\t\t\t*  \"Christianity is Stupid.\nv22964qs@ubvms or mike%luick@ubvms\t*   Give up.\" -Negativland\nUB Language Perception Laboratory\t*  \n******************************************************************************\n\n\n\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\ \n\nBob Beauchaine bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM \n\nThey said that Queens could stay, they blew the Bronx away,\nand sank Manhattan out at sea.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nYou don't give the precise error message, but I assume that\nthe making of the target fails, because make can't find the rules.\n\nWe've seen this happen with SunOS 5.x make as well and aat this\npoint I'm not sure why it happens. It seems to happen\nwith large Makefiles. The entries near the end get lost.\nSmall changes in the makefile will remedy this problem,\nas it does in your example.\n\nIn the MIT R5 distribution + R5.SunOS5.patch this can happen with\nthe target ``Makefiles'' in one of the doc directories.\n\n\nThis is really weird. Are your *really* sure that you were using GNU make?","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nPlease explain the why of this. I have over 200k miles usage of clutchless\nshift and no problems.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"We are doing a research about a passive dynamic vision guided\nvehicle.\nCompleted the first theoric part, we have to make the effective\nrealization of this vehicle.\n\nWe need the necessary hardware for image acquisition from a videocamera\nand for their subsequent elaboration (tipically: edge detection).\n\nWe ask for informations about available products in the market for\nthis purpose (in real time, 20-25 frames\/second).\nHence we need frame-grabber cards and\/or DSP cards for SUN or PC platform. \n\nWe are also very interested in receiving comments and suggestions from users\nof these cards, especially about programming tools.\n\nFurthermore we are looking for the same kind of informations about\ndigital controlled Pan&Tilt devices.\n\nThanks in advance\n\nBest regards\n\t\t\t\tEnrico Fedrigo","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Hi. I would like to know if there is a seperate newgroup for \ndiscussion of MS Test or Quality Assurance issues. Or, if not, what\nnewsgroup would be the appropriate one to use.\n\nDoes compuserve or microsoft themselves have a bbs people can call\nfor help on such?\n\nThanks.   Please email response to djw@wang.com\n\nD\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Because of the technology apple uses with their 800k disks, IBM PC cant read them without special hardware, 1.44M disks work more alike IBM's so we only can read 1.44 M disks on a PC\n\t\/andy\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"WOULD WIRETAP CHIP BE COST-EFFECTIVE?\n\n                        by Robin Hanson\n                     Draft, April 21, 1993\n\n  SUMMARY: Compared to an average monthly phone bill of sixty dollars,\n  wiretaps are only worth two cents a month to police.  So the\n  proposed wiretap chip must raise phone costs by less than one part \n  in three thousand to be cost-effective. \n\nBACKGROUND\n\nUntil now, phones have happened to allow the existence of \"wiretaps\",\ndetectors which could pick up conversations on a phone line.  And over\ntime, law enforcement agencies have come to rely on this capability to\naid in criminal investigations.  However, powerful new encryption\ntechnologies threaten this status quo, by making possible truly\nprivate communication.  A small chip in each phone could soon make it\nliterally impossible to overhear a conversation without physical\nmicrophones at either end.\n\nIn order to preserve the ability of law enforcement agencies to tap\nphone conversations, the U.S. government announced on April 16, 1993\nthat it had developed and begun manufacturing a special \"wiretap\" chip\nto be placed in future phones, instead of the total privacy chips\nwhich have been under private development.  The same day, AT&T\nannounced it would use these chips \"in all its secure telephone\nproducts\".\n\nEach chip would be created under government supervision, when it would\nbe given a fixed indentifier and encryption key.  Periodically during\neach conversation, the chip would broadcast its identifier and other\ninfo in a special \"law enforcement block\".  Law enforcement officers\nwith a court order could then obtain the key corresponding to the\nindentifier from special trust agencies, and could thereby listen in\non any future or previously recorded conversations on that phone.\n\nTo date, most concerns voiced about this plan have been about its\nsecurity.  The government won't disclose the encryption algorithm, and\nmany suspect the government will not limit its access in the way it\nhas claimed.  The track record of previous governments does not\ninspire confidence on this point [1].\n\nHowever, this paper will neglect these concerns, and ask instead\nwhether this new wiretap chip is a cost-effective tool for police\ninvestigation.  That is, which is a cheaper way for society to\ninvestigate crime: force phone communications to support wiretaps, or\ngive police agencies more money to investigate crimes in other ways?\nOr to put it another way, would police agencies be willing to pay for\neach wiretap, if they had to pay their share of the full social cost\nof forcing phones to support wiretaps?\n\nTo start to answer this question, we might compare the current\nbenefits wiretaps provide to law enforcement agencies with projected\ncosts of implementing the new wiretap chip plan.  And since current\nbenefits are easier to estimate, we begin there.\n\nWIRETAP BENEFITS\n\n1990 is the latest year for which wiretap statistics are available\n[2].  In that year, 872 wiretap installations were requested, and no\nrequests were denied.  (This figure does not include wiretaps obtained\nwith the consent of a party to the conversation.)  2057 arrests\nresulted from wiretaps started the same year, 1486 arrests came from\nwiretaps in previous years, and 55% of arrests led to convictions.\n76% of the wiretaps were for phones (vs pagers, email, etc.), 60% were\nregarding drug offenses, and 40% were requested by federal\nauthorities.  Each wiretap installation heard an average of 1487\ncalls, 22% of them incriminating, among 131 people, and cost an\naverage of $45,125 (extrapolating from the 794 installations\nreporting costs), mostly for labor.\n\nThus a total of about $40 Million was spent on wiretaps, to obtain\nabout 4000 arrests, at $10,000 per arrest.  Thus these arrests are at\nleast four times more expensive than the $2500 per arrest figure one\ngets by dividing the $28 Billion spent by all police nationally by the\ntotal 11 Million non-traffic arrests [3].  Thus the $30 Million per\nyear spent on phone taps is only one thousanth of the total police\nexpenditures.  And if we divide this by the 138 Million phone \"access\"\nlines in the country [3], we get about 23 cents spent per year per\nphone line, or about two cents a month.\n\nIn general, we deter a given class of criminals through a combination\nof a perceived probability of being caught and convicted, and some\nexpected punishment level if convicted.  So the social value of having\nwiretaps is no more than the amount that we would have to pay to get\nthe same criminal deterrence through other means.  If unable to\nwiretap a particular suspect's phone, police might instead use hidden\nmicrophones, or investigate that suspect in other ways.  Or police\nmight focus on suspects more easily investigated without wiretaps.  Or\nwe might raise the fine or prison time for certain types of crime.\n\nIf we generously assume that these substitutes for wiretaps would be\non average twice as expensive as wiretaps, then the annual social\nbenefit of phone wiretaps is about equal to the current spending level\nof two cents a month per phone line.\n\nWIRETAP COSTS\n\nLet us for the moment optimistically assume that the US government\nencryption scheme is as secure as whatever private enterprise would\nhave offered instead, protecting our conversations from the spying\nears of neighbors, corporations, and governments, both foreign and\ndomestic.  Even so, the need to support wiretaps would add many\nadditional costs to build and maintain our communication system.\n\nExtra law enforcement blocks would be added to phone transmissions,\nincreasing traffic by some unknown percentage.  A special process must\nbe used to add encryption keys to chips, while securely distributing\nthese keys to special agencies, which must be funded and monitored.\nThe chips themselves are designed by a military contractor, whose\ndesign is to remain secret, and are manufactured through a special\nprocess so that the chip becomes nearly impossible to take apart.\n(Chips are now offered at the relatively high price of $30 a peice in\nlots of 10,000 [4].)  Private encryption systems not supporting\nwiretaps would require none of these extra costs.\n\nPerhaps most important, government degree would at least partially\nreplace private marketplace evolution of standards for how voice is to\nbe represented, encrypted, and exchanged in our future phones.  It is\nwidely believed that governments are less efficient than private\nenterprise in procuring products and standards, though they may perhaps\nperform a useful brokering role when we choose between competing private\nstandards.  How much less efficient is a matter of debate, some say\nthey pay twice as much, while others might say only 10% more.    \n\nCurrently, a total of $96 Billion is spent as operating expenses of\nU.S. phone companies [3], which comes out to about $60 per month per\naccess line.  If we compare this to the wiretap value of two cents per\nmonth, we see that if wiretaps raise average operating costs by even\nas much as one part in 3000, then wiretaps are not cost effective!\nAnd this doesn't even include extra costs phone owners pay because\ntheir encryption chips are more expensive.  Of course most phones\nwouldn't have encryption chips for a while, but the wiretap benefit\nper phone is still the same, so this argument still applies.\n\nCONCLUSION\n\nGiven this dramatic difference between the total cost of running the\nphone system and the value of wiretaps, we can justify only the\nslightest modification of the phone system to accommodate wiretaps.\nWhen the only modification required was to allow investigators in to\nattach clips to phone wires, wiretap support may have been reasonable.\nBut when we consider substantial modification, the burden of proof is\nclearly on those proposing such modification to show that the costs\nwould really be less than the benefits.  \n\nIf consensus cannot be obtain on this cost\/benefit estimate, a\ncompromise might be to tax phones which do not support wiretaps at a\nrate of say five cents per month, a tax payable to police agencies\nnationwide to compensate them for their loss of wiretap abilities.\n\n[1] The Invisible Weapon, Oxford Press, ISBN 0-19-506273-6\n\n[2] Report on Applications for Orders Authorizing or Approving the\n    Interception of Wire, Oral, or Electronic Communications, 1990,\n    Administrative Office of U.S. Courts, Washington, DC 20544.\n\n[3] U.S. Statistical Abstracts, 1992.  \n\n[4] Dorothy Denning, \"The Clipper Chip: A Technical Summary\",\n    distributed to sci.crypt newsgroup April 21, 1993. 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{"text":"\n\n\nOtherwise you get NO2 out the back.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"genealogical \nold \n\nWell, since my wife is (in your gentle term) a \"bastard\", I can\nprobably speak with a bit of authority on this. Any \"stigma\"\nassociated with children conceived and\/or born out of wedlock rests\nsolely upon the parents--they've committed a sexual transgression for\nwhich they should repent. The child itself has no a priori limitations\non him or her; indeed, the concept of blaming the child for the\nparents' sins is one most Mormons would find appalling; note that LDS\ntheology rejects original sin, as the term is usually defined, and the\nsubsequent need for infant baptism (cf. Moroni 8 in the Book of\nMormon).  Indeed, LDS doctrine goes one step further and in some cases\nholds parents responsible for their children's sins if they have\nfailed to bring them up properly (cf. D&C 68:25-28; note that this\npassage applies it only to members of the LDS Church).\n\nAlso note that there is no \"big genealogical book in Salt Lake City\".\nThe LDS Church has a massive storage facility in the nearby mountains\ncontaining (on microfilm) vital statistic records (birth, christening,\nbaptism, marriage, death) gathered from all over the entire world. I\nmay be misremembering, but I believe they have records for some 2\nbillion people in that vault. At the same time, the LDS Church is\nbuilding up an on-line genealogical database. In neither case is there\nsome kind of \"worthiness screening\" as to whether someone can be\nentered in. The only potential issue is that of establishing who the\nparents were, and that would apply only in the case of the database.\n..bruce..\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nBruce F. Webster             |  I love the Constitution of this land,\nCTO, Pages Software Inc      |  but I hate the damned rascals that\nbwebster@pages.com           |  administer it. \n#import <pages\/disclaimer.h> |            -- attributed to Brigham Young\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n[The following arrived as a separate posting --clh]\n\nA follow-up to my own follow-up--lest anyone misunderstand, the term\n\"bastard\" is one which I have never in 25 years of LDS Church\nmembership heard applied, formally or informally, to a child born out\nof wedlock, and indeed would (rightly) be considered a vulgar,\noffensive term. I would not have echoed the expression in my reply,\nexcept in hopes that the poster would recognize the offensive nature\nof the word in the given context. Unfortunately, after posting my\nreply, I remembered that subtle points are often lost on the 'net, and\nfigured I'd better spell it out.  ..bruce..","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nTo avoid paperwork associated with re-certification as a brand new car,\netc. So for ad purposes it's a brand new nameplate, for paperwork it's\nstill a Stanza.\n\nSpiros\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nLori, the regular Penguins poster here on rec.sport.hockey, indicated to me\nvia e-mail that on the nights that Pirates baseball and Penguins playoff \ngames coincide, the Pens will be covered on WDVE FM (102.5).","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\na yes,  but the improvement in  boost orbit to the HST is Significant,\nand  that means you can then carry EDO packs  and enough consumables\nso the SHuttle mission can go on long enough to also fix the\narray tilt motors,  and god knows what else  is going to wear out\non the HST in the next 9 months.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nMake sure that the hard disk you want to boot from is set as active (using the\nFDISK program that comes with DOS).\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I suggest another name change:","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nNeigh on every day.  Most don't notice.\n\n\n\nWhat do I win?\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nJust out of curiosity, what else was there to do in this situation?\nWait another 51 days\/weeks\/months\/years???\n\nWas there anything indicating that these children and the other\npeople were going to get out alive?\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nOh yes, the good ol' deutsche Bundespost.  Shortly after moving to Germany,\nsomeone told me that \"POST\" is an acronym for the \"Public Organization for\nthe Suppression of Technology\".  Stimmt, oder?\n\nI miss a lot of things about Germany (yes, including the Bier vending\nmachines at work that were SUBSIDIZED by the firm), but the phone system\nis not one of them.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nWell, apparently we have another son of Dro 'the Butcher' to contend with. \nYou should indeed be happy to know that you rekindled a huge discussion on\ndistortions propagated by several of your contemporaries. If you feel \nthat you can simply act as an Armenian governmental crony in this forum \nyou will be sadly mistaken and duly embarrassed. This is not a lecture to \nanother historical revisionist and a genocide apologist, but a fact.\n\nI will dissect article-by-article, paragraph-by-paragraph, line-by-line, \nlie-by-lie, revision-by-revision, written by those on this net, who plan \nto 'prove' that the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million Turks and Kurds is \nnothing less than a classic un-redressed genocide. We are neither in \nx-Soviet Union, nor in some similar ultra-nationalist fascist dictatorship, \nthat employs the dictates of Hitler to quell domestic unrest. Also, feel \nfree to distribute all responses to your nearest ASALA\/SDPA\/ARF terrorists,\nthe Armenian pseudo-scholars, or to those affiliated with the Armenian\ncriminal organizations.\n\nx-Soviet Armenian government got away with the genocide of 2.5 million \nTurkish men, women and children and is enjoying the fruits of that genocide. \nYou, and those like you, will not get away with the genocide's cover-up.\n\nDuring the First World War and the ensuing years - 1914-1920, \nthe Armenians through a premeditated and systematic genocide, \ntried to complete its centuries-old policy of annihilation against \nthe Turks and Kurds by savagely murdering 2.5 million Muslims and \ndeporting the rest from their 1,000 year homeland.\n\nThe attempt at genocide is justly regarded as the first instance\nof Genocide in the 20th Century acted upon an entire people.\nThis event is incontrovertibly proven by historians, government\nand international political leaders, such as U.S. Ambassador Mark \nBristol, William Langer, Ambassador Layard, James Barton, Stanford \nShaw, Arthur Chester, John Dewey, Robert Dunn, Papazian, Nalbandian, \nOhanus Appressian, Jorge Blanco Villalta, General Nikolayef, General \nBolkovitinof, General Prjevalski, General Odiselidze, Meguerditche, \nKazimir, Motayef, Twerdokhlebof, General Hamelin, Rawlinson, Avetis\nAharonian, Dr. Stephan Eshnanie, Varandian, General Bronsart, Arfa,\nDr. Hamlin, Boghos Nubar, Sarkis Atamian, Katchaznouni, Rachel \nBortnick, Halide Edip, McCarthy, W. B. Allen, Paul Muratoff and many \nothers.\n\nJ. C. Hurewitz, Professor of Government Emeritus, Former Director of\nthe Middle East Institute (1971-1984), Columbia University.\n\nBernard Lewis, Cleveland E. Dodge Professor of Near Eastern History,\nPrinceton University.\n\nHalil Inalcik, University Professor of Ottoman History & Member of\nthe American Academy of Arts & Sciences, University of Chicago.\n\nPeter Golden, Professor of History, Rutgers University, Newark.\n\nStanford Shaw, Professor of History, University of California at\nLos Angeles.\n\nThomas Naff, Professor of History & Director, Middle East Research\nInstitute, University of Pennsylvania.\n\nRonald Jennings, Associate Professor of History & Asian Studies,\nUniversity of Illinois.\n\nHoward Reed, Professor of History, University of Connecticut.\n\nDankwart Rustow, Distinguished University Professor of Political\nScience, City University Graduate School, New York.\n\nJohn Woods, Associate Professor of Middle Eastern History, \nUniversity of Chicago.\n\nJohn Masson Smith, Jr., Professor of History, University of\nCalifornia at Berkeley.\n\nAlan Fisher, Professor of History, Michigan State University.\n\nAvigdor Levy, Professor of History, Brandeis University.\n\nAndreas G. E. Bodrogligetti, Professor of History, University of California\nat Los Angeles.\n\nKathleen Burrill, Associate Professor of Turkish Studies, Columbia University.\n\nRoderic Davison, Professor of History, George Washington University.\n\nWalter Denny, Professor of History, University of Massachusetts.\n\nCaesar Farah, Professor of History, University of Minnesota.\n\nTom Goodrich, Professor of History, Indiana University of Pennsylvania.\n\nTibor Halasi-Kun, Professor Emeritus of Turkish Studies, Columbia University.\n\nJustin McCarthy, Professor of History, University of Louisville.\n\nJon Mandaville, Professor of History, Portland State University (Oregon).\n\nRobert Olson, Professor of History, University of Kentucky.\n\nMadeline Zilfi, Professor of History, University of Maryland.\n\nJames Stewart-Robinson, Professor of Turkish Studies, University of Michigan.\n\n.......so the list goes on and on and on.....\n\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I am both new to this news group and to the net.\n        \n        I am facinated by the things I have heard about the PGP\nencryption program.  Does anybody out there know where I might get a\nversion of this program that runs under Windows 3.1, MS-Dos, Unix\nw\/source?  As of this writting I have no UNIX access and am running on a\nnifty windows implamentation of uucico.\n        Thanks in advance!\n ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Does anyone have recommendations on whether a smart data I\/O (print spooler,\ndigital sampling, etc.) would be better implemented with a DMA chip or a\ndedicated microcontroller?  Essentially what I am trying to decide is the best\nway to handle moving data from a port with automatic handshaking from or to a\nmemory area that will be accessible by a main system processor when not in use\nby the smart data I\/O.\n \nWhich DMA or microcontroller chip would be best to use?  Fast, cheap, and easy\nto obtain would be nice, but I won't limit my choices to only those that fit\nthose characteristics.  Even an 8086\/8088 (under $5) would do what I want,\nbut I am sure there is a better alternative -- like a microcontroller with\nonchip (E)EPROM.\n \nSo I essentially want to hear about all DMA and microcontrollers that are simple\nto interface and will move data from one place to another while monitoring a\nfew I\/O lines.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"GK>I hear that tires for this car can get really expensive.  I\nGK>currently have Goodyear GT+4s that cost the previous owner $500\nGK>for four.\n\nTry Eagle GAs, wear better, cost less, lose little handling, and are\nquieter.  I'm going to switch to 225s in my next set, with new rims\n(Fitti Twists) if I can afford 'em by the time my GAs wear out.\n\nGK>is a whole new ritual for me with that fangled pedal!  Also, I began\nGK>to wonder how strong that brake really is.  (Today, I backed out of\nGK>parking spot today and started to drive away before I noticed\nGK>the glowing brake light.  Oops.)\n\nMine is strong enough to not let the car move when it's in, even if you're\ngiving it enough gas to normally move it in 1st.  You might need a brake\nadjustment.\n\nGK>The driver's power window creaks when closed all the way.  The same\nGK>thing happens in my parents 1989 Mercury Sable.  Oddly, all the\nGK>other windows work smoothly.\n\nWatch it closely, the glass actually flexes from the torque in the motor, it\nseems stronger in the drivers window then the others.\n\nGK>I'm liking the interior amenities more and more each day.  The\nGK>cupholders are great.\n\nI've found the location (under the armrest in between the seats) to be a\npain, but like having them.  They moved it into the dash (pop out) in the\n'91 model year, MUCH better.\n\nGK>I really feel like I don't deserve this car.  I really can't\nGK>believe that I could afford it.  I got this car ten years\nGK>ahead of schedule.  :-)\n\nI did the same thing.  Got a black '89 with 65.5k miles on it for $8k\nin July '92.\n\nGK>I've put together the responses to my questions about the cars, as\nGK>well as other posts with useful information on these cars.  I'll be\nGK>posting this in the form of a FAQ soon.\n\nGrabbed it and archived it.  Thanks!\n\nGK>If anyone is interested in starting a mailing list, please speak up!\nGK>I don't know if I have the resources here at Purdue to start one, but\nGK>maybe someone out there does.\n\nI'll be starting one this summer, one way or the other (current software\nI use dosen't support mailing lists, but is on the RSN list - if not, I'm\ngoing to upgrade to another package that DOES have it), that is, if nobody\nelse beats me to it.  Will make an announcement here when it goes up.\n          ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nIt has been done, but the other companies don't have the marketing\nbudgets that MS do.  4DOS, for instance, is everything that\nCOMMAND.COM should have been (but never could be under MS).  Those who\nuse it usually find it more addictive than crack cocaine.  But they\nhave to rely on word of mouth for sales.  It seems to have worked\npretty good so far, but your corporate weenie manager type usually\nlikes to see a big glossy ad in PC Magazine.  That's okay, marketing\nisn't a fundamental human right, but they've got a product that's\nsuperior to the DOS command interpreter in every way.  They have a lot\nmore to be proud of than MS does.  If MS really gave a damn, they\ncould duplicate it, buy it outright (they've got the money), or even\nuse the old ruse of sending engineers out to help them with\ncompatability issues and absconding with the technology.\n\nDOS is a mediocre product at a cheap price backed up by top notch\nmarketing and vendor agreements.  The \"mediocre\" was excusable in the\nearly days when it was someone else's hack, but they've had ten years\nto play with it.\n\nAn interesting thought on that: Most MS products that I'm aware of in\nthe last few years allow you to access the names of the designers and\nprogrammers through easter egg screens, including Windows, or at least\nhave the names buried in the files.  Is there such a thing in DOS 5.0\nand 6.0, or are they too ashamed to have their names on it?","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Does anyone know where I can access an online copy of the proposed \"jobs\"\nor \"stimulus\" legislation?  Please E-mail me directly and if anyone else\nis interested, I can post this information.\n\nThanks,\n\nMike Brooks\n\nNOTE:  My E-mail address in the news header is NOT correct.  My correct \naddress is:","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nThere are people who have adapted to high altitudes in the Andes and in\nTibet. I suspect that it took them several generations to make the\nadaptation because Europeans had difficulty making the adaptation. They\nhad to send the women to a lower altitude when they were pregnant in order\nto insure sucessful childbirth.\n\n\nAnother factor you should consider is the X-ray opacity of the atmosphere \nin case of stellar flares, the uv opacity is also important because uv \nradiation can kill or damage microbes, plants, and animals. ","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I sent a 2400 baud modem to a cousin in Greece from the U.S. and it is\nworking fine for him. It also worked for me in U.S.\n\n-Jim.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"The temp on my 486DX2\/66 is over 96C (measured with a K-type thermocouple \nand Fluke 55 dig thermometer).  This is an \"idle\" temp - not doing lots of\nbus i\/o, not doing floating point, not doing 32-bit protected mode etc.  This\nis in a Micron computer, without heatsink.\n\nI recently put a heatsink\/fan on the chip, but I might take the fan off.  It\nmakes a horrible whine at times, and I wonder what the vibration is doing to\nthe pins on the cpu etc...\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":": One not-so-quick question to throw out there for you guys...\n\n: For our class project, we need to design and build a power supply\n: to the following specs:\n\n: Voltatge:  adjustable from 1-12V\n: Current:   *limited* at 1A\n\n: Voltage must stay within 2% of designated value for I from 0-1A\n: AC ripple less than 5 mV (rms)\n\nTo decide which kind of circuit you must know the initialprecission of\nthe limiter-current and the allowed temp-drift.\n\nIn the first case, you can use a Ube of a transistor as a voltage-reference\nof about 0.7 VDC with a temp-drift of 2mV\/K. In the second case its better\nyou use a bandgap-ref and a opamp-circuit to detect the maximum-current.\nThe output of this opamp controlls the outputstage to limit the current.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"In <1qvh8tINNsg6@citation.ksu.ksu.edu> yohan@citation.ksu.ksu.edu (Jonathan W \n\n\n\n\nThis doesn't seem right.  If I want to kill you, I can because that is what I\ndecide?\n\n\nNot really.  If whatever a particular society mandates as ok is ok, there are\nalways some in the \"society\" who disagree with the mandates, so which \nsocietal mandates make the standard for morality?\n >>\n\n\nSo what should be the basis? Unfortunately I have to admit to being tied at \nleast loosely to the \"feeling\", in that I think we intuitively know some things\nto be wrong.  Awfully hard to defend, though.\n\n\nI might agree here.  Just because certain actions are legal does not make them\n\"moral\".\ndeficits.\n\n--\n****************************************************************\n                                                    Michael A. Cobb\n \"...and I won't raise taxes on the middle     University of Illinois\n    class to pay for my programs.\"                 Champaign-Urbana\n          -Bill Clinton 3rd Debate             cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"CAD Setup For Sale:\n\nG486PLB Local Bus Motherboard\n  Can use up to 32MB of SIMMS (256k\/1M\/4M)\n  9 expansion slots (8 16-bit slots, 1 32-bit slot)\n  Weitek 4167 co-processor socket\n\n33 Mhz Intel CPU\n\n33 Mhz Weitek 4167 Math Co-processor\n\nG-Host4000 Local Bus ET4000 Video Card\n  Based on Tseng Labs' ET4000 chip design\n  Supports resolutions up to 1280x1024 interlaced or non-interlaced\n  Uses RAMDAC to allow up to 32k colors in 800x600, 65k colors in 640x480\n  Register level compatible with CGA, EGA, VGA, MDA\n  Software drivers available for 1-2-3, Symphony, Autocad, Autoshade,\n   Windows, Wordperfect, VESA and 8514\/A Emulation\n  also contained on the card:\n    Local Bus IDE controller\n    Floppy Disk controller\n    Two fully configuarable serial ports\n    1 Parallel port\n    1 Game port\n\n  I used this setup to run AutoCad and 3D Studio.  The combination of\n Local Bus and the Weitek co-processor made for VERY fast CAD and modeling\n work.  The Weitek coprocessor can cut 3D Studio render times in half and\n sometimes more.  It also increases redraws and regens when modeling in\n both 3D Studio and Autocad.  Everything is less than a year old.  I am\n asking $950.00 + shipping for the whole package.  Please respond via email.\n Thanks.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nI highly recommend Starnet's Micro-X.  They have versions for DOS and Windows,\nwith support for PC\/TCP, or the Clarkson packet drivers.  I have used it\nsuccessfully with twm, mwm, and olwm, over both ethernet and SLIP.\nAnd their tech support is top notch.  They really impressed me.  \n\nKevin","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"--- other stuff delete...\nIf you happen to be running the new msdos 6, you could use multi-\nsetup to provide a menu with a menu choice for each person using\nthe machine ... power up, select your name,  the menu will use your\npersonal sections of config.sys and autoexec.bat thus setting up the\npath, then running your windows copy!  \nRon\n------------ Temp at Intel, views are my own -----------------------\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"#|>\n#|> #And in that area, what you care about is whether someone is sceptical,\n#|> #critical and autonomous on the one hand, or gullible, excitable and\n#|> #easily led on the other.\n#|> \n#|> Indeed I may.  And one may be an atheist and also be gullible, excitable\n#|> and easily led.\n#|> \n#|> #I would say that a tendency to worship tyrants and ideologies indicates\n#|> #that a person is easily led.   Whether they have a worship or belief \n#|> #in a supernatural hero rather than an earthly one seems to me to be\n#|> #beside the point.\n#|> \n#|> Sure.  But whether or not they are atheists is what we are discussing,\n#|> not whether they are easily led.  \n#\n#Not if you show that these hypothetical atheists are gullible, excitable\n#and easily led from some concrete cause.   In that case we would also\n#have to discuss if that concrete cause, rather than atheism, was the\n#factor that caused their subsequent behaviour.\n\nI'm not arguing that atheism causes such behaviour - merely that\nit is not relevant to the definition of atheism, which is 'lack of belief in \ngods'.  \n\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Please reply to the seller below.\n\n210M Formatted SCSI Hard Disk 3.5\"\n-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\n    Rodime 3259TS  (3 available)\n\n    New Drives, Unused\n\n    Capacity, formatted Mbytes:   210.0\n    Number of data heads:             5\n    Number of cylinders:          1,235\n    Track density, tpi:            1700\n    Positioning times -\n     Track-to-track        5ms\n     Average              18ms\n     Full Stroke (Max)    20ms\n    Rotational speed, RPM:       3600\n    Avg. rotational latency:   8.33ms\n    SCSI Bus transfer rate:    4M\/sec\n    Cache:                        48K\n\n  Guaranteed against DOA\n\n  Works with Sun, PC, Mac, & misc. other workstations\n\n  These are internal drives\n  No external drive enclosure is included\n\n Price: $225 each, including COD insured\n        shipping within the continental U.S.\n\nPlease email responses to:","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"[This is a response to a request for a Biblical reference about Satan\nbeing a fallen angel.  --clh]\n\nIsaiah 14:12","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nAre you for real?\n\nPeople dumb enough to give their money and possessions to a guy who says he's\njesus deserve all they get\n\nAnyway, he killed a few feds\n\nHe's not the goddam hero here\n\nHe's dead an' i'm happy!!!!!\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nFunny, the medical examiner today stated that there was no\nevidence ONE WAY or ANOTHER that there were bullet wounds --\nnot a single autopsy has been performed, so all reports are\ndeemed speculative.  INCLUDING reports that there were NO\nbullet wounds.\n\n\nBefore long, I think all the kneejerk conspiracy theorists\nare going to start getting pretty pissed off at how easily\nthey mislead themselves.  Also, pretty disappointed at\nbeing ignored by the coutnry.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n No, it appears he didn't. Well, I think he's on to something here. I\nmean the post he responded to (not) did pretty much speak for itself.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nMarhaba Nabil,\n\nIf we posit two minds in Christ, the mind of the logos and the mind of the\nhuman Jesus, then we must admit two wills.  A mind is not a mind without a\nwill.  I know this has been dealt with in past Church prnouncements, but there\nis a philosophical problem here that should examined.\n\nT. V. Morris argued that the Incarnation can be seen like this:\n\n      _____________\t\t\n     (Mind of Logos)\n     (\t _______   )\n     (\t(\t)  )\tHere, the mind of Jesus is circumsribed by God the\n     (\t( Human\t)  )\tSon.  God the Son has complete access to the human\n     (  ( Mind\t)  )\tmind but the human mind only has access to the mind\n     (\t(\t)  )\tof God the Son when the Son allows access.  This \n     (\t(_______)  )\texplains why Jesus said even he did not know the \n     (_____________)\ttime of the kingdom.\t\n\nThe human will acted in accordance with the divine will according to free\nhuman decision.  But if the human will would have decided differently than\nwhat was intended the divine will would have interceded, but this was never\nthe case.\n\nHe employs some very interesting analogies to support the one person\/two mind\ntheory.  The ideas of a completely healthy version of split personality from\nthe field of psychology, and the intriguing ideas of being in a dream, seeing\nyourself acting, knowing that is you, but also being omniscient.  \n\nThe one hypostasis would be the unity of the two minds.  Agreed.  But I am\nstill waiting for Morris and others to respond to the lingering problem of two\nminds making two persons.  Christian analytic philosophers are breaking new\nground in explicating the rationality of Theism and the Incarnation. \n\n====================================          \nTed Kalivoda (tedr@athena.cs.uga.edu)\nUniversity of Georgia, Athens\nInstitute of Higher Ed. ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Well, I got the scores for Sat's games...\n\nAHL PLAYOFF SCORES-- FIRST ROUND\t(home team in CAPS)\n================================\n\t\t\nGAMES PLAYED ON SAT, 4\/24\n-------------------------\nBALTIMORE 3\tBinghamton 1\nROCHESTER 3\tUtica 2\nSPRINGFIELD 4\tProvidence 3\n\t\t\n===================================================================\nSERIES STATI (plural of status? :)\n----------------------------------\nAdirondack defeated CDI, 4-0\nSpringfield defeated Providence, 4-2\nBinghamton tied w\/Baltimore, 2-2\nRochester defeated Utica, 4-1\nSt John's leads Moncton, 3-1\nCape Breton defeated Fredericton, 4-1","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":": It seems silly, but while I've located things like tgif that can  edit\n: gif  files, and various tools to convert to\/from gif format, I haven't\n: been able to locate a program that just opens a window and displays  a\n: gif file in it.  I've looked thru various faq files, also to no avail.\n: Is there one lurking about in some  archive?   Nothing  sophisticated;\n: just \"show the pretty picture\"?","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nNo.\n\n\nNo.\n\n\nNo, but...\n\nYou can allocate real static data within code segments!\nWhen you need more dynamic memory you can allocate data on the global heap.\n\nYou can forget most of what was written about memory management. Under 3.1\nyou have paged virtual memory. You can lock every block without hampering\nthe memory manager. You can use far pointer everytime without always Lock\/\nUnlocking the memory block.\n\nAn besides: DLL's are mostly just disguised EXE's, that happen to be called\nby another task.\n\n\nKarl.\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\tThis seems appropriate, somehow...>:-)>\n[....]\n\tHah!  I have it on the very *best* authority (mine) that Koresh is\nwhooping it up in a time-share condo in Dallas with Elvis, JFK, and (of course)\nJ.R. \"Bob\" Dobbs, who also owns the place and everything else in Texas.\n\tLook for \"koresh\" sightings in the Weekly World News and National\nEnquirer in the coming months.\n\t************************************************************\n\t*  \tThe_Doge of South St. Louis\t\t\t   *\n\t*\t\tDobbs-Approved Media Conspirator(tm)\t   *\n\t*\t\"One Step Beyond\"  -- Sundays, 3 to 5 pm\t   *\n\t*\t\t88.1 FM\t\tSt. Louis Community Radio  *\n\t*  \"You'll pay to know what you *really* think!\"           *\n\t*\t\t\t-- J.R. \"Bob\" Dobbs\"\t\t   *\n\t************************************************************\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"In a previous article, sadek@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (mohamed.s.sa \n\nMohamed,\n\nWhat has he got to say about the carnage and genocide in our own SUDAN?\nThe two scenarios must be viewed from the same perspective or don't you\nthink so? well, methinks. no flames intended!!!\n\noguocha\n\n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\nYou forget the obvious! If it is an *authorised* tap then it can be done at\nthe exchange. If the exchange is *digital* then I suspect that you can\nauto-monitor a line and pickup the full link. Therefore syncing a piggyback\nmodem on the line would not be impossible - I suspect.\n-- ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"   I did.  You're mistaken.  NSA's communications intelligence mission is\n   strictly against foreign governments.  Here's an excerpt from the enabling\n   charter (24 Oct 52, Truman) that should clarify this.  The charter was\n   declassified in about Feb 1990 when an FOIA request made it public.\nInteresting!  Where can I get the whole thing?\n\n   NSA is not in the standard-setting business, though -- that's why this\n   Clipper stuff came from NIST, which I believe is tasked with coming up\n   with standards based on their best inputs from other government agencies,\n   which would include NSA.\n\nSeveral of the newspaper reports have made it fairly clear that the\nNSA did all the real work.  You can't believe everything you read in\nthe papers :-), but the package of information the NIST is faxing out\nhas so little information beyond what's widely known that it sounds\nlike it's true.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Source: \"Adventures in the Near East\" by A. Rawlinson, Jonathan Cape, \n30 Bedford Square, London, 1934 (First published 1923) (287 pages).\n(Memoirs of a British officer who witnessed the Armenian genocide of 2.5 \n million Muslim people)\n\np. 178 (first paragraph)\n\n\"In those Moslem villages in the plain below which had been searched for\n arms by the Armenians everything had been taken under the cloak of such\n search, and not only had many Moslems been killed, but horrible tortures \n had been inflicted in the endeavour to obtain information as to where\n valuables had been hidden, of which the Armenians were aware of the \n existence, although they had been unable to find them.\"\n\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"On a cold, damp night last night at Tiger Stadium, Dave Wells, David Haas, Bob \nMacDonald, and Mike Henneman combined for a 3-1 victory over the Texas\nRangers.  Here are the highlights:\n\n\n            R     H     E\nTexas       1     4     1\nDetroit     3     5     0\n\nWells gets the win, he's now 3-0 with an ERA just under 1, and Henneman gets\nhis third save in three chances.  Ken Rogers started for the Rangers and \ngets the loss.  He was relieved by Burns in the 7th.\n\nThe Rangers got their only run on a solo home run by Dean Palmer in the 7th.\nThe Tigers opened the scoring with an RBI single by Fryman in the 3rd, then\ntook the lead for good in the bottom of the seventh when Whitaker greeted\nreliever Burns with an RBI double which scored Tettleton.  Whitaker in turn\ncrossed the plate on an RBI single by Phillips (who has been red hot) for \nthe third Tiger run.\n\nThis afternoon, it's another battle of southpaws, Bill Krueger for the Tigers\nvs. Craig Lefferts for the Rangers.\n\n--Randy","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n[unrelated text deleted]\n\n\n\nI think that Phil needs to get out a ruler and see exactly how big 50mm rounds\nare - roughly 2\" diameter.  The type of stuff used in Anti-Aircraft gunnery.\n.50 calibre is much smaller, but the 3000m effective range (~2mi) sounds about\nright. Maybe he just got the two confused..... The FBI's reasoning was sound,\nbut the note from PH-B was factually wrong.\n\nTom H.\n\n\n\n-- \n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Tom Hyatt                                  I'm a diehard Saints fan, so i've    thyat@sdf.lonestar.org                     suffered quite enough, thank you!    Arlington, TX                                                                                                                                                    Help! I'm being repressed!  -M.Python                                          -------------------------------\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"If anyone would have a low quantity distributer for these little \nbeasts (3479P) by Motorola, please let me know!\n \n_______________________________________________    \n             |                                 |\n   _______   |    Baden de Bari                |\n  \/       \\  |     baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca   |\n (| o   o |) |     baden@inqmind.bison.mb.ca   |\n  |   ^   |  | >> True life can only           |\n  \\  -=-  \/  | >> be experianced by            |\n   \\_____\/   | >> those who do not fear death. |","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\tDid I not hear that there maybe some ports of Real3D Version2\n   \tin the pipeline somewhere, Possibly Unix. Not too sure though\n        please put me straight.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI really disagree with you. But maybe you know better. Here is the \nissue at hand:\n\n\n     'After all, who remembers today the extermination of the Tartars?'\n      (Adolf Hitler, August 22, 1939: Ruth W. Rosenbaum (Durusoy), \n          \"The Turkish Holocaust - Turk Soykirimi\", p. 213.)\n\n\n \"The crime of systematic cleansing by mass killing and extermination \n  of the Muslim population in Soviet Republic of Armenia, Karabag, \n  Bosnia and Herzegovina is an 'Islamic Holocaust' comparable to the \n  extermination of 2.5 million Muslims by the Armenian Government \n  during the WWI and of over 6 million European Jews during the WWII.\"\n                  (Tovfik Kasimov - Azeri Leader - September 25, 1992)\n                 \n\n \"Today's ethnic cleansing policies by the Serbian dictatorship against\n  Croatians and Muslims of Yugoslavia, as well as the Soviet Republic\n  of Armenia's against the Muslim population of neighboring Azerbaijan,\n  are really no different in their aspirations than the genocide \n  perpetrated by the Armenian Government 78 years ago against the\n  Turkish and Kurdish Muslims and Sephardic Jews living in these\n  lands.\"         (Cebbar Leygara - Kurdish Leader - October 13, 1992)\n\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\tMaryland and other states.\n\n\tTo the original poster:\n\n\tRead the last 3-4 issues of Car And Driver about this.  It's \ninteresting and should be illegal...  \n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nIt is also so easy to blame the West for their indiffernce to\nreal Bosnian suffering.  How about the moslem world, about 1 billion?\nHow about them ha?  What they are doing to stop this\nmassacre?  Why the oil rich Arab states make the Bosnian crises \na national interest of the West, especially for Europeans?  We all \nknow they can do it over night, don't we? Blaming West and asking \nwhy they don't put their life into danger seems to be the choice of \nmuslims too.  I think who is sleeping is not the West.  They are wide \nawake.  They are trying to save the face.  ","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI agree that this should be added to some sort of FAQ list.  But we have\nstrayed from the original topic.  Our computer environment is pretty split\nbetween Mac's and PC's... I am lucky and get to have both on my desk.  But\nthere are people who have PC's and need to share data with the Mac users\nhere.  The MAC users have no problems because of package called DOS Mounter\nwhich AUTOMATICALLy lets the MAC read DOS disks natively.  For the PC there\nis no equivilant... that I know of!  Both mac-ette and macsee have been \ninconsistant under the dos platform, and requires you to perform the activity\nin a DOS program to selectively transport the files.\n\nThe question originally posed was if there is such a program that hooks into\nwindows like a .DLL that will interpret the reading of a MAC disk when it is \nin a PC, and allow access to it through the standard file dialogs.  It is quite\nclear that this would only be available for the 1.44MB flopies.\n\n\n-- T.J. Fiske","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"(Short reply to Kent Sandvik's post remarking how it is strange that\nsomehow Sufism is related to Islam, as [to him] they seem quite\ndifferent.)\n\nIf one really understands Islam, it is not strange that Sufism is\nassociated with it.  In fact, Sufism is (in general) seen as the \"inner\ndimension\" of Islam.\n\nOne of the \"roots\" of the word \"Islam\" is \"submission\" -- \"Islam\"\ndenotes submission to God.  Sufism is the most complete submission to\nGod imaginable, in \"annihilating\" oneself in God.\n\n(I am not a Sufi or on the Sufi path, but have read a lot and recently\nhave been discussing a number of things with others who are on the Sufi\npath.)","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I hope that there's somebody out there that can help us.\n\nSome of our students change the AMI bios passwords on a few of our computers \nand set it for always. What we'd like to know is if there is a way to bypass \nor remove the password. We have tried switching bios, but to no avail. The \nbattery is soldered to the bord, an all three machines is still under \nguarentee so if that would have help we can't remove the batteries.\n\nThanks Isak\nIsak Venter                          ITBIJV@PUKNET.PUK.AC.ZA","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"-=> Quoting Ohandley@betsy.gsfc.nasa. to All <=-\n\n Oh> From: ohandley@betsy.gsfc.nasa.gov\n Oh> Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey\n Oh> Subject: Test...Please ignore\n Oh> Message-ID: <1993Apr21.180741@betsy.gsfc.nasa.gov>\n Oh> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 22:07:41 GMT\n Oh> Reply-To: ohandley@betsy.gsfc.nasa.gov\n\n Oh> This is a test.....Please ignore.\n\n\n Oh> =======================================================================\n Oh> ========\n Oh> =======================================================================\n Oh> ========\n\n\n      OK I will ignore this message\n      since it is only a test.\n      wow, Montreal just scored to go up\n      1 - 0 in game 4 of their series, oh sorry\n      I was supposed to ignore this message wasn't I\n\n\n      bye for now.\n\n\n      Steve\n\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nWell, Michael,  I don't know if clh has left them in the faq  (Maybe you should\npost the \"how to get there map again), but I posted two or three lengthy\nexegetical paper on these verses.  They looked at the OT, NT and\nintertestimental usages of terms in reference.  I would suggest you read those\nbefore you talk about a \"need\" in exegetical studies.  If those aren't enough,\nI could also provide \"The source and NT Meaning of Apsevokoitai\".  Dr James\nDeYoung published it in THE MASTERS SEMINARY JOURNAL in fall of '92.  To read\nany of these 4 papers shows that the shoe is on the other foot as far as a need\nfor honest exegesis.\n\nAgain, please refer to the faq file, or if you are unable to acess it, drop me\na line and I will enclose them to you.\n\nRexlex@fnal.fnal.gov ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Why should anyone (check: let's restrict this to Christians, why do *we*)\nwant to find \"commandments\" in the books regarded as scripture?  What's\ngoing on? I will pass on psychologizing answers (whether dismissive or more\nopen) as not the kind of issue to deal with here -- the question is what is\nthe *theological* point involved?  And it has been quoted \"at\" me often\nenough by those who don't believe I take it seriously, that Jesus (is said\nto have) said, \"If you love me, you will obey my commands.\"  [John 14:15]\n\nI am, like any Christian, the slave of Christ, and it is my will that I\nshould do as He wills me to do.  I am (also, or instead) His younger brother,\nbut still under His direction, though we both call God \"Abba.\"  Christians,\ntherefore, will try to find what it is that their Lord commands them, and\ndiscovering it will feel obligated to do it, or to confess their failure.\nReaders here may set aside the theologizing jargon (such as \"slaves of\nChrist\") -- the point is that adherents of a religion *will* read the texts\n(whether classified as \"inspired\" or not) that are held up as models, in an\neffort to find application to their own situations.  This practice ranges\nfrom \"devotional\" reading of sermons and the like to the exegesis of canon-\nical scripture as \"the Word of God.\"  And at the highest pitch, this leads\nto a question of whether we *can* find in inspired scripture something that\ncan act as \"absolute\" guidance for our actions.\n\nThe problem is in finding out just *what* it is our Lord commands.  I am\ngoing to set aside for this essay one major direction in which Christians\nhave looked for these commands, namely Christian tradition.  That is not\nbecause *I* reject tradition, but because my primary audience in this essay\nis Protestants, who deny tradition a determinative value, in favor of the\nwitness of Scripture.  The question I want to deal with is, WHAT commandments\ncan we find from our Lord in Scripture?  And that turns out to be a hard\nquestion.  [ If any of my Protestant Inquisitors would *like* to turn the\ndiscussion to the authority of tradition, I can accomodate them :-), unlike\n*most* Protestants, Episcopalians admit claims from a) Scripture b) Reason\nand c) Tradition on roughly equal standing. ]\n\nEarlier in John than my quote above, we read [John 13:34] \"I give you a new \ncommandment: love one another.\"  This is the ONLY place in the NT where\nChristians are given an explicit commandment, with the context commenting\non its imperative mode pronouncement by Jesus.  At the same meal [so we\n*readers* infer, since it is *not* in John, but in the Synoptics] Jesus\nsays, \"Take this [bread]; this is my body.\"  [Mark 14:22, cf. Matthew 26:26,\nLuke 22:19, 1 Corinthians 11:24]  The mode is imperative (Greek _labete_),\nand hence this, too, is a \"commandment.\"\n\nIn *both* cases we have to *infer* that the command is directed to a wider\ncircle than the immediate collocation of disciples -- because we judge the\nevangelist's point in mentioning it (with the disciples by then mostly or\nentirely dead) is that *we* are expected to follow this as a commandment\nfrom our Lord.  In the case of communion, Paul's mention (at least; this\nis probably true of the evangelists also) implies an ongoing ritual liturgy\nin which these words operate to \"bind\" Christians to the original command\nto his disciples, as a continuing commandment to the Christian community.\n\nI am entirely comfortable with this inference, but I *must* point out that\nit is THERE, between us and the occasion on which Jesus spoke the command.\nI take it as a clear inference, at the very least the EVANGELIST'S notion,\nthat *all* Christians are called to love one another, in Jesus' command\ndirected at the disciples.  But I have to call attention to the inference.\nThe command CANNOT apply to me without the generalization from the specific\ncontext of its statement to my own context as a \"disciple\" of Christ.\n\nAll reading of scripture has to make such inferences, to get any sense out\nof the text whatsoever.  This is a general problem in reading these texts\n-- we cannot read them at all without our *own* understanding of our native\nlanguages in which we (normally) read the (translated) texts, and without\n*some* appreciation of the original context (and at points, the original\nlanguages, when English misleads us.) I am going to presume, in what follows,\nthat we have the *general* problem of how to read scripture under control\n[ I don't *really* think this is true, but it will suffice for my current\npurposes. ]  I will address ONLY the issues that arise when we have already\ncoped with the understanding of a 2000 year old text from another world\nthan the one we live in.  Questions at THAT level only introduce MORE reser-\nvations about the commandments issue than will be found stipulating that we\ncan read the texts as the original audience might have done.\n\nAmong the reasons we have for seeing John's _agapate allelou_ as a *general*\ncommandment (not merely an instruction by Jesus to this disciples on that\none occasion), and one linking it to the Synoptic \"Great Commandment\" is\nthat we have criticism, from Jesus, about limiting our love to those whom\nwe congenially associate with.  In Matthew 5:43ff we read, \"You have learnt\nsay to you: love your enemies.\"  In fact, the Leviticus context quoted\ndoes NOT say 'hate your enemy' -- it is merely the common human presumption.\n(And Leviticus is at pains to say that the \"love\" should extend to strangers\namongst the people of Israel.)  Luke, in expanding on this same Q context,\ngoes on to have Jesus say. \"Even sinners love those who love them.\" [6:27]\nAll of this suggests [quite strongly, I'd say :-)] that *limiting* the\nscope of the \"new commandment\" is not quite what Jesus has in mind.  In\nshort, inference *leads me* to generalizing the actual text to a command\nthat is \"in force\" on Christians, and with objects not limited to other\nChristians.\n\nTrickier than the _agapate allelou_ or Institution of communion, there is\nthe case of the \"Great Commission\" where (Matthew 10, Mark 6) the Twelve\nare sent out to evangelize, \"Proclaim that the kingdom of heaven is close\nat hand.\"  The verb is imperative (_ke:russete_), but the context is rather\nspecific to the Twelve, and there are further specifiers (as in \"Do not\nturn your steps to pagan territory, and do not enter any Samaritan town\"\n-- the Lukan parallels are even more specific to Jesus' final journey to\nJerusalem) which make it harder to see this generalizing to all Christians\nthan the previous examples.  That hasn't prevented Christians from MAKING\nsuch an inference; what I have to call attention to is that such inference\nis NOT justified in the text, nor (unlike the first two cases I cite) by\nthe rhetoric of the evangelist urged on the reader.  Still, Paul seems to\nhave felt obliged to \"proclaim that the kingdom of heaven is close at hand\"\neven (contrary to Jesus' instructions to the 12 :-)) to the gentiles, to\nthe ends of the earth.  So, Christians after him have also taken this as\na \"commandment\" in the sense of John 14:15.  Do I \"accept\" this?  I don't\nknow.  It is surely rather speculative.  But you see how the ripples of\ninference spread out from the text that is the pretext -- Christians (may)\ninfer a general commandment, applicable to all, from what is presented in\nthe gospels as a specific occasion.  I do not (necessarily) object to this\nkind of generalization -- but I *insist* that people who make it *must*\nhave an understanding that they are *reasoning* (at some considerable\nlength) from what we actually *have* in scripture.  There are *assumptions*\ninvolved in this reasoning, and *these* are *not* themselves scriptural\n(though people will do their best to \"justify\" their assumptions by OTHER\nreferences to scripture -- which simply adds MORE inference into the mix!)\n\nLet's move on to the \"Great Commandment\" -- that we should love God with\nour whole hearts and minds and souls.  This is, perhaps, the Synoptic\n\"equivalent\" of John's _agapate allelou_.  And yet,  it is not PRESENTED\nas a commandment, in our texts.  Rather, the context is controversy with\nthe Pharisees.  To cite Matthew [22:34ff]\n\n\t\"But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees\n\tthey got together and, to disconcert him, one of them put a question,\n\t\"Master, which is the greatest commandment of the Law?\"\n\nIt is by no means obvious here (though I accept it as such) that Jesus'\nanswer is meant to be a commandment *to Christians*.  He is answering a\npolemic from his enemies.  [ Mark's account, in  12:28-34 casts the answer\nin a far more positive light as (so the \"scribe\" in this version says)\n\"far more important than any holocaust (I need to point out that this word\noriginates in the context of animal sacrifice; forget the Nazis for this)\nor sacrifice.\"  Luke is intermediate -- he has a lawyer posing the question\n\"to disconcert\" Jesus, and gets the Good Samarian parable for his pains\n[ Luke 10:25-37 ].  The contexts here are so confusingly various that one\ncould be forgiven for drawing *no* inferences :-)  In *no* account is this\nsaid as if it were obviously to be taken as a commandment binding on\nChristians -- though I think it an entirely reasonable conclusion in each\ncase that Jesus thinks it to be so.  The point is that our mental gears\nHAVE to grind a cycle or so to get to any conclusion from all of this about\nwhat WE are commanded to do, by Jesus.  And all of this is contingent on\nour understanding the point of Jesus' use of the Torah in the (all quite\ndifferent) gospel accounts, and the application of such a context to *us*.\n\nThe different contexts among the Synoptics are curious.  It should be noted\nthat ONLY in Luke do we get the \"fixing\" of this command by the parable of\nthe Good Samaritan.  We may look for an analogous *intent* in Matthew, where\n7:12 gives the \"Golden Rule\" as \"the meaning of the Law and the Prophets\"\n(and where we may also hear an echo of Hillel saying the same, a generation\nbefore Jesus.)  If we make these associations (which I think are entirely\nreasonable), we are -- again -- indulging in inference.  The texts do not\n*explicitly* support us; rather, we *read* the texts as having this kind of\ninter-relationship.  Current literary theory calls this \"intertextuality.\"\n\nMy discussion of why the _agapate allelou_ \"has\" to apply beyond the \ncommunity of the disciples, and beyound the circle of Christian believers,\napplies again here, to buttress a conclusion that this *is* (despite the\npresentation not saying so explicitly) a \"commandment\" to Christians.\nFew Christians would disagree with my conclusions -- but I *must* point\nout that they *are* conclusions, they *depend* on rather elaborate chains\nof reasoning that are simply NOT present in the texts, themselves.\n\nThe contextual problem keeps coming up, more and more severely as we look at\nthose sayings of Jesus that are NOT so universally taken by Christians as \ncommandments.  And we get some really hard cases.  Take divorce.  Mark is \npretty clear, \"The man who divorces his wife and marries another is guilty\nof adultery against her.\"  [ 10:11, cf. Luke 16:18 ] -- except that Matthew\nhas an escape clause [ \"except in the case of fornication\", 5:31 ]. This\nseems to be a rather clear \"commandment\" (whether or not we take Matthew's\nreservation); and some Christians, to this day, take it so.  But some don't,\nat least in practice.  This is rather peculiar; it is not as if Jesus were\nnot explicit about this (whereas He says nothing at all about some of the\nthings people gnash their teeth over.)  How is it possible, if the commands\nof Christ are clear, that Matthew can so disagree with the other evangelists\nof the synoptic tradition?\n\nI'm going to continue this examination, into ever-murkier waters, but this\nis enough to start with.  The theme is: \"finding commandments in scripture\nis an exercise in inference; our inferences are informed by OUR assumptions,\nthat is, our own cultural biases.\"  I have, so far, identified a very few\n\"commandments\" that are generally accepted by all Christians -- and yet in\nthese, already, some of the difficulties start to surface.  It is these\ndifficulties I want to discuss in my next essay on this topic.  The divorce\ncommandment already strikes at some of the difficulties: I see almost no\nevidence that the people who are so eager to find commandments to condemn\n*me* with, spend any time at all writing nasty screeds to soc.couples or\nmisc.legal about the horrors or viciousness of divorce, or demanding that\nUS law refuse to allow it, or refuse \"unrepentant divorcees\" places in\ntheir churches.  [ That is not to say that divorce *doesn't* enter into \nconsideration in general -- it is most definitely a matter of concern, in\neven the most \"liberal\" church circles.  For example, a (wildly) liberal\nEpiscopalian priest of my aqauintence, in a (wildly) liberal diocese, has\nrecommended to a couple who approached him to marry them that they have a\n\"private\" secular ceremony before a judge, so that the \"public\" ceremony\nhe celebrated need not go through an agonizing \"examination\" by officials\nwho would just as soon NOT take on this role of interpreting the commands\nwe are faced with as Christians.  This, in a church that was effectively\nCREATED by a famous divorce! ]","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Much of the dispute about the origin of the fire that destroyed the\nBD compound could be settled by examining the propane tank supposedly\ncrushed by one of the army tanks when they breached the walls of the\ncompound. If the the propane tank is flattened and has tread marks on it,\nthen the BD's version of the cause of the fire would seem to be\nverified.\n\n-- \nDave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nFinding a disk array that can do 180MB\/sec. will be difficult. The fastest\nones I know about are from Maximum Strategy (IBM also sells these). They\ncan attach HiPPI at up to 144 MB\/sec. (64 bit). For these kinds of data\nrates you need more than SCSI for connections. Their latest model, the\nRAID 5 model Gen 4 only does 90 MB\/sec. but I think this may be a\nlimitation only of the HiPPI channel and that customer needs have not\nexceeded that speed since their older model was faster. They are also not\nidle (must be working on newer products that might be faster) and are a\nsmall company so you might be able to ask about custom interfaces. They\nstill marketed the older, faster model as of a few mongths ago.\n\nMaximum Strategy, Inc.\n801 Buckeye Court\nMilpitas, CA 95035-7408\nsales@maxstrat.com\n\nYou might still want to look into compression as it will be very difficult\nto keep the HiPPI bus fully working at all times - sustained throughput\nmight come close to maximum burst rate.\n\nInteresting problem. Tell us more if you can?\n\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"There is a contradiction related to the moral issue of polygamy in the\nMormon writings.  In the book in the book of Mormon called the book of \nJacob, Joseph Smith wrote that it was an abomination to God for \nDavid and Solomon to have many wives.  Later, when Joseph Smith wrote\nthe Doctrines and Covenants (possibly when polygamy was becoming an\nissue in his personal life) he wrote that it was not an abomination for\nDavid to have many wives.  How do Mormons answer this contradiction?","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nNo, no, no!  The previous one was called \"Smiley\".  1992 QB1 = Smiley,\nand 1993 FW = Karla.\n\nNote that neither name is official.  It seems the discoverers have an\naversion to the designation scheme.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"As long as we're bashing typography...\n\n\n\nYes, UNIX is case-dependent. :-)","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nIf you were able to prove that morality is objective, then it would\nbe correct to do so. The problem is, by the very meaning of the\nwords in question, to do so is oxymoronic. Of course you could\nredefine the words, but that would still not lend support to the\nunderlying concept.\n\n\nThis does not parse. How could you hardly be wrong without dragging\nin the o-word?\n\n\nI have no problem with objectivity at all. It is my objectivity that\nhas led me to conclude that morality is subjective.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n..that's what I thought, that's why I never used emm386.exe before.\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Are there any members of conservative, religious, politically active groups\n(such as the Christian Coalition) out there?  I come from a very liberal \nbackground, and I'd like to talk to some conservative people out there in a \npublic forum (such as this one.)  I frankly can't understand the rationale or\nChristian basis for much of the conservative position, and I'd like to try and\nlearn more about this movement--after all, we're part of the same church.  Is\nanyone interested in explaining a bit about the conservative viewpoint?\n  Thanks.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nAE is in Dallas...try 214\/241-6060 or 214\/241-0055.  Tech support may be on\ntheir own line, but one of these should get you started.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nHas he realised yet....or are you hoping to fix it before he does ? \n\nIf you're planning to use T-Cut...BE CAREFUL. Sunlight fades paint and T-Cut removes the surface layer, so if its a older bike or very sunny where\nyou live then the colour of the T-cut panel wont match the rest of the bike.\n\n-Bob\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------\nBob Morley\t\t\t\tPIPEX (Public IP EXchange)\nDoD #549\t\t\t\t216 Cambridge Science Park\nOgrite\t\t\t\t\tMilton Road\nCBR1000FL\t\t\t\tCambridge, CB4 4WA\nEly & District MCC\t\t\tEngland","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"The clipper chip's User key is formed by:\n \n           R1 = E[D[E[N1;S1];S2];S1]\n           R2 = E[D[E[N2;S1];S2];S1]\n           R3 = E[D[E[N3;S1];S2];S1]\n \n   Why is the triple-encrytion used?  Is it just to gain an effective\nincrease in keyspace to defeat a potential keysearch?  (If so, why use\n80 bit keys?)  Not knowing anything about the Skipjack algorithm, it's\nnot really possible to guess whether this makes it harder or easier to\nguess S1,S2.\n \n   Why are N1, N2, and N3 formed as they are?  It would be facinating to\nsee the Skipjack algorithm, to look for ways of attacking it that require\nthree ciphertext blocks formed in that odd way.\n \n   Where do the 34-bit constant values that are concatenated with the\nserial number to form N1,N2,N3 come from?  Are they changed from chip to\nchip, or session to session?  (Even if they're published in the NY Times,\nif SkipJack is resistant to known-plaintext attacks, when using triple-\nencryption, then there's no break in security.  But why allow that kind\nof weird format?  If those three 34-bit values are truly-random bits, then\nmaybe it's used to ensure that a known-plaintext attack on SkipJack, if\nit exists, can't be easily used to derive S1 and S2 for a whole production\nrun of these chips....)\n \n   Does Dorothy Denning read this group?  If not, is someone on the group\nforwarding questions like these to her, or Martin Hellman, or anyone else\nwho's seen more details about the chip?","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"From mikefran Wed Apr 21 11:08:28 EDT 1993\nArticle: 56 of csc.general\nNewsgroups: dc.forsale,dc.general,um.general,csc.general\nPath: wam.umd.edu!mikefran\nFrom: mikefran@wam.umd.edu (Michael Francis)\nSubject: Car for Sale\nMessage-ID: <1993Apr21.142729.7039@wam.umd.edu>\nKeywords: 1981 Volkswagon Scirocco\nSender: usenet@wam.umd.edu (USENET News system)\nNntp-Posting-Host: rac3.wam.umd.edu\nOrganization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park\nDistribution: csc,um,dc\nDate: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 14:27:29 GMT\n\n\n1981 Volkswagon Scirocco \n\n   Gold exterior and interior\n   5 speed transmission\n   AM\/FM Stereo with cassette\n   Sunroof\n   Engine in good condition\n   New Tires\n   Needs $300 work on front left control arm because of damage caused by\n     pothole.\n   Runs well \n   Asking $800.00  AS IS \/ OBO.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nI suppose you don't know what about we have discussed.\nWe discussed about error(s) in XV 2.21 which shows images only as 8bit,\nand my suggestion above works perfectly with it.\n\nSo far I have seen a colormap editing window in XV -- that is, there\nmust be a colormap anyway. The problems you present are exist anyway,\nand I didn't tried to solve them at all, because I would not make such\nproblems to my programs in the first place.\n\nGamma and color corrections are easily done to 24bit image\nas I presented. There's no need make tricks from 8bit\/quantized image\nback to 24 bit image.\n\n\n\nOk, you're writing about situation that user want edit images as 24bit\nand user want edit individual colors -- your questions, by the way,\njumps off the discussion a bit.\n\nMy solution doesn't work, because there's no colormap withing real 24bit\nimage -- you see, user see 24bit image; going back to 8bit is silly.\n\n\nAbout changing individual colors in 8bit\/quantized\/rasterized image:\nchanging individual colors in colormap is useless in most\ncases if the image is quantized and rasterized -- small change may\nmake serious errors to anywhere in the image.\nXV allows this feature, but I don't recommend to use it with the\nmentioned type images.\n\nMoreover, XV is not a paint program; you can only make those global\nchanges. In full 24bit XV, changing individual colors sounds like\npaint program job.\nIf person have 8bit screen, there's need for tricks to get the\noriginal 24bit image modified. Because user don't see full 24bit\nimage, there's need to make approximations and it is not possible to\nmodify individual colors but individual pixels or pixel groups (if\nimage is rasterized). To select indiavidual color, there could be 7x7\ncursor window which shows true color image in cursor window area --\nselecting individual color is possible from that.\n\nOk, I don't have thought very much 24bit painting programs, never seen\nsuch in good view and are not planned to make such. Not to mention\n24bit painting program in 8bit screen...\n\n\n\nIt saved 8bit\/quantized\/rasterized images as 24bit jpegs; jpeg is not\ndesigned for that.\nAlso, human expect that 24bit will be saved as 24bit image; say,\nperson would like to crop part of the image and save it, then it is\nexpected that the image still is the same. So, XV were designed\nwithout thinking about human interface and how human expect the\nprogram work -- design error.\n\nI have heard XV were designed first for 8bit images\/files, but\nit were not good idea to take full 24bit images without making\nmajor change to the original design.\n\nSo, even all screen images are 8bit, the processed images and saved\nimages could have been 24bit very easily, instead of 8bit.\n\nBefore anybody will make a note: yes, I may as well make a lift where\n'up' means that the lift goes down and 'down' means that the lift goes\nup, and put a note on this design solution to the manuals -- however,\neven the manuals tells the correct situation, it doesn't solve the problem.\n(Americans: the lift is just an example :)\n\n\nWell, my text may be a bit hard reading, hopefully you suggeeded to\nread it.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I would gladly spend twice the money for insurance, rather than using\nGeico.  Not only do they supply radar guns to the police they also want\nto make radar detectors illegal.  They also ask if you have a detector\n(probably to put you in a high risk group or just refuse to insure you).\n\nI know a few people who were droped by geico due to an accident that\nwas not their fault.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Greetings,\n\n\tI am looking to upgrade my hard drive to a much bigger\none since I find myself kinda cramped on space, althuogh I have never filled\nit I would like the extra comfort of 30 megs or so.  If anyone would like\nto sell\/trade a newish 80 meg or bigger hard drive for 125 straight and\n75 with a trade please e-mail me back at johng2matt.ksu.ksu.edu\nwith an offer.  I would also sell my hard drive for about 60$ if you\nreally want it.  it's a 42MB western digital IDE.  Other than that I am not\nsure what the transfer rate is, but it is pretty fast. faster than my\nroommates teac drive.  I have addstor running on it now and have had it\nfor about 5 months.  I have *never* had a problem with it and would guarantee\nit works upon deliveree.  Thanks\n\n\n\n\t\t\tJohn","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"NY Islanders                     1 1 2 0 1--5\nWashington                       0 2 2 0 0--4\nFirst period\n     1, NY Islanders, Turgeon 1 (King, Thomas) 13:14.\nSecond period\n     2, Washington, Hunter 3 (Johansson, Miller) 6:33.\n     3, NY Islanders, Turgeon 2 (Thomas, Vaske) 12:36.\n     4, Washington, Hunter 4 (Johansson, Carpenter) pp, 16:51.\nThird period\n     5, NY Islanders, Hogue 1 (unassisted) 3:31.\n     6, Washington, Khristich 2 (Cavallini, Bondra) 7:16.\n     7, NY Islanders, Ferraro 2 (Flatley, Hogue) 14:50.\n     8, Washington, Hunter 5 (Johansson, Khristich) pp, 19:57.\nFirst overtime\n     No scoring.\nSecond overtime\n     9, NY Islanders, Mullen 1 (Ferraro, Flatley) 14:50.\n\nNY Islanders: 5    Power play: 5-0\nScorer            G    A   Pts\n---------------  ---  ---  ---\nFerraro            1    1    2\nFlatley            0    2    2\nHogue              1    1    2\nKing               0    1    1\nMullen             1    0    1\nThomas             0    2    2\nTurgeon            2    0    2\nVaske              0    1    1\n\nWashington: 4    Power play: 5-2\nScorer            G    A   Pts\n---------------  ---  ---  ---\nBondra             0    1    1\nCarpenter          0    1    1\nCavallini          0    1    1\nHunter             3    0    3\nJohansson          0    3    3\nKhristich          1    1    2\nMiller             0    1    1\n\n-----------------------------------------\nMontreal                         0 0 1--1\nQuebec                           3 0 1--4\nFirst period\n     1, Quebec, Leschyshyn 1 (Kamensky, Sakic) pp, 4:19.\n     2, Quebec, Young 2 (Lapointe) 11:41.\n     3, Quebec, Young 3 (Lapointe, Duchesne) 13:56.\nSecond period\n     No scoring.\nThird period\n     4, Montreal, Bellows 2 (Odelein) 11:05.\n     5, Quebec, Lapointe 1 (Ricci) en, 19:23.\n\nQuebec: 4    Power play: 2-1   Special goals:  pp: 1  en: 1  Total: 2\nScorer            G    A   Pts\n---------------  ---  ---  ---\nDuchesne           0    1    1\nKamensky           0    1    1\nLapointe           1    2    3\nLeschyshyn         1    0    1\nRicci              0    1    1\nSakic              0    1    1\nYoung              2    0    2\n\nMontreal: 1    Power play: 1-0\nScorer            G    A   Pts\n---------------  ---  ---  ---\nBellows            1    0    1\nOdelein            0    1    1\n\n-----------------------------------------\nNew Jersey                       0 0 0--0\nPittsburgh                       2 4 1--7\nFirst period\n     1, Pittsburgh, McEachern 1 (Francis, Taglianetti) 15:09.\n     2, Pittsburgh, Lemieux 3 (Samuelsson, Barrasso) sh, 17:41.\nSecond period\n     3, Pittsburgh, Tocchet 2 (Stevens, Samuelsson) 3:48.\n     4, Pittsburgh, Jagr 2 (Francis, Ramsey) 12:39.\n     5, Pittsburgh, Stevens 1 (Francis, Murphy) pp, 15:43.\n     6, Pittsburgh, McEachern 2 (Daniels, Mullen) 16:56.\nThird period\n     7, Pittsburgh, Mullen 1 (Francis, Barrasso) 17:42.\n\nPittsburgh: 7    Power play: 4-1   Special goals:  pp: 1  sh: 1  Total: 2\nScorer            G    A   Pts\n---------------  ---  ---  ---\nBarrasso           0    2    2\nDaniels            0    1    1\nFrancis            0    4    4\nJagr               1    0    1\nLemieux            1    0    1\nMcEachern          2    0    2\nMullen             1    1    2\nMurphy             0    1    1\nRamsey             0    1    1\nSamuelsson         0    2    2\nStevens            1    1    2\nTaglianetti        0    1    1\nTocchet            1    0    1\n\nNew Jersey: 0    Power play: 5-0\nNo scoring\n\n-----------------------------------------\nBuffalo                          2 1 1--4\nBoston                           0 0 0--0\nFirst period\n     1, Buffalo, Presley 1 (unassisted) sh, 4:27.\n     2, Buffalo, Wood 1 (Moller, Sweeney) pp, 8:07.\nSecond period\n     3, Buffalo, Mogilny 3 (Lafontaine) 5:03.\nThird period\n     4, Buffalo, Hawerchuk 1 (Carney, Smehlik) pp, 14:48.\n\nBuffalo: 4    Power play: 4-2   Special goals:  pp: 2  sh: 1  Total: 3\nScorer            G    A   Pts\n---------------  ---  ---  ---\nCarney             0    1    1\nHawerchuk          1    0    1\nLafontaine         0    1    1\nMogilny            1    0    1\nMoller             0    1    1\nPresley            1    0    1\nSmehlik            0    1    1\nSweeney            0    1    1\nWood               1    0    1\n\nBoston: 0    Power play: 5-0\nNo scoring\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nWhich bus???\n\nI think there are several reasons :-\n\n50MHz motherboards are harder to get right\n50MHz need a fast L2 cache - 12-15ns is a good idea\n50MHz needs to be slowed down to make a compliant VESA bus\n66MHz DX2 chips are faster for a lot of things\n\n\nWith a good, fast L2 cache a DX2\/66 is going be be faster than a DX50...\n\nWhat do I have?\n\nA DX50 of course!\n\n\nGuy","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Hello.\n\n  The last issue of Electronics world describes Ranger 2.0 a PCB CAD program.\nAccording to the article there is a crippled version available as shareware,\ndoes anybody know of any FTP sites\/BBSes where this program may be found?\n\nThanks in advance.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nWhoa!  Watch your terminology.  \"Dealer invoice\" is *not* \"dealer cost\".\nYou'll hear lots of ads screaming \"two dollars over dealer invoice!!!\"\nSounds like a real deal, huh?  No.  You know what the \"dealer invoice\"\n(also called factory invoice) is?  It's a piece of paper with numbers\non it that the factory sends the dealer.  What do the numbers\nsignify?  Absolutely nothing.  It's a marketing gimmick that the\nsalesman can wave in your face to impress you.  Note that nowhere\non the \"invoice\" does it claim to be the real price of the car, and\nmost ads which mention dealer invoice will end with a very fast,\nlow voice saying something like \"invoice may not reflect actual\ndealer cost\".  Actually, I *guarantee* it does not reflect actual\ndealer cost.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"From article <1993May15.091822.14174@lth.se>, by knut@tts.lth.se (Ake Knutsson):\n\n  Put ProgMan (with the hotkey) in your StartUp -group. Should do it.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"# ## Ahh, what's good for the goose is not necessarily what's good for\n# ## the gander.  You don't want homosexuals to impose their moral codes\n# ## (such diabolical ideas as equal rights) on you, yet you are willing\n# ## to impose your moral codes on them.  Do I detect a double standard?\n# ## \n# ## -garison\n# \n# #What do you mean?  If adults want to get together for sodomy in\n# #private, that's their business.\n# \n# And that's precisely what they do.  So what's your problem with the queer\n# population, boyo?  The only difference between us is what we do in\n# private--who we love.\n# \n# ----bi    Andrew D. Simchik\t\t\t\t\tSCHNOPIA!\n\nDo it in private, and it won't be a problem.  But the reason that\nthe homosexual activists are so hot on antidiscrimination laws is\nthat they want:\n\n1. To be able to wear that lovely chiffon evening gown to work, and\nnot have people get disgusted;\n\n2. To be able to wear their NAMBLA T-shirt and not worry about\ngetting fired;\n\n3. To be able to have access to young boys, so that they start\nmaking the next generation of homosexuals.\n\nIf your right to privacy is what makes sodomy laws unconstitutional\n(a position that I agree with), then keep it private, and there\nwon't be a problem.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"        I read on the BBS a while back thats a BBS may be started for\n        Gateway2000. Did a BBS start, and if it did, would you let me\n        know the newsgroup name. Please send information by e-mail.\n        My e-mail address is joe_west@lds.loral.com. Thanks...joe west.\n\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Appsoft Image is available for NeXTStep. It is a image processing program\nsimilar to Adobe Photoshop. It is reviewed in the April '93 issue of\nPublish! Magazine.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"THe origional bit is missing but long\/short follows:\n\n    The origional poster asked if he\/she could use any old vga\/svga\nmonitor with a centris (hence title).  \n\n    The answer ot this question is an unqualified yes.  You can use any\nold vga\/svga monitor with a centris.  You do need an adaptor (I use a\nMac vga-q from james engineering (510) 525-7350) to run between the two\nmachines.  THe adaptor I have mentioned will convert a centris to a\nthree row vga\/svga 25(?) pin adaptor for your monitor.\n\n    NOW, the special interest disclaimer.\n The above answer is correct for using a vga monitor at 600x400\nresolution.  IF your monitor will sync to 56Khz horizontal the above\nadaptor will allow you to choose 800x600 resolution (I prefer this on my\n1604s).\n\nTHen You have the question of matching adaptors and sync rates.  I would\nadvocate calling James engineering because they seem to have a clue.  As\nto the comment by the person who said don't bother calling Apple because\nthey will treat you like an idiot this is totally untrue.\n    APPLE WILL TREAT YOU LIKE A F**KING ASSANINE IDIOT FOR EVEN\nCONSIDERING GOING THIRD PARTY AND IF YOU WANT THIS TREATMENT WANTS YOU\nTO PAY FOR THEIR THECH SUPPORT LINE (the supposedly compitantly one) AND\nTHEN STILL HAS NO FU***** CLUE.\n\npersonal experience.  also the tech suppport for the vga monitor makers\ndoesn't see to extend to Macs (Sony, Magnavox).  In addition to this to\nfind out the info you will have to call dealers unless you can find the\nsync rates elsewhere as ads like Hardware that fits\n(*&^%&%^%$$(&**&^(%&%^$!) that rate monitor resolutions give the most\nfavorable rating (which usually means you can get this if you use a\nspecialized application video card).(i.e. \"well you can get a resolution\n1168x832 on this $5,  9\" \"super smelly sock\" monitor that will let you\ndisplay TWO FULL PAGES side by side.  All you need is our reasonably\npriced \"oder eater\" video board for $27,000 and it will give you an\nultra fast horizontal sync rate of SIX fast kilohertz and three Khz\nvertical.\")\n\n\n\nNote:  with the sony 1604 at least on the centris 610 built in video\nboard using an 832x624 adaptor, there is a boarder of an inch + to the\nsides of the image after adjusting the horizontal width as favorably as\npossible.  Using a 800x600 adaptor this can be reduced to about half an\ninch.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\"Silver Dream Racer\" -- Frustrated Brit club racer's buddy dies,\nleaving him a built-in-garage \"revolutionary, experimental\" 500 GP bike.\nBrit club racer uses machine to beat Bad American on Bad Japanese\nFactory Bike at British GP.  Filmed at Silverstone, I believe.  Pretty\nbad.\n\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\t[...details of US built chemical plant at Al Alteer near Baghdad...]\n: However, the plant's intended use was to aid the Iraqi infrastructure.\n: It is not an example of selling a weapon.  May sound nitpicking,\n: but are we going to refuse to sell valuable parts that build the\n: infrastructure because of dual use technology? \n\n\tI am contending that in this case (and in the case of the sale\nof pesticides by UK companies) that they knew full well that it was to \nbe used for the production of chemical weapons even if that was not its\nofficially stated purpose.\n\n: I personally don't think that letting Iran conquer Iraq would have been a \n: good thing.  \n\n\tFor that matter, neither do I (for the reasons you state). It is the \nhypocrisy and claims the US did not help Iraq that make me angry, plus the\nfact that the USA seems to believe it has the *right* to interfere where\nis sees fit (i.e. has an interest) rather than a *duty* to intervene where\nit is required. This is demonstrated by the failure of the US to do anything\nabout East Timor (and the region *is* becoming destabilised). The USA might\nhave done something approaching the right thing, given my reservations about\nthe uncessary number of civillian casualites, but for wholly the wrong reasons\nand after having a hand in creating the situation.\n\n: That in no way would affect the US later military action against Iraq.\n\n\tI did not suggest it would and it would be ridiculous to assert\notherwise. I was simply indicating the USA has previously aided Iraq.\n\n: Intel on manufacturing techniques, or something of that nature? \n\n\tNo, apparently data (orginally from satellites although I doubt\nthat Iraq would have been given the raw data) concerning troop concentrations.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Hi.\n\nI'm wonderring if it is possible to replace a single module, as XKeybind.o\nin a shared library, as libX11.so in Suns OpenWindows. I tried to RTFM, but\nI didn't get any wiser that way. Also, can I do the same on an RS6000 machine\nrunning 3.2.2 (if it is possible at all). I know how to do it with real \nlibraries (ar). I am trying to replace XLookupString in the delivered\nlibraries, with another that does a few special things.\n\n\/Per\n-- ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
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{"text":"\ni think you got it the other way round: the Ferrari flat 12 is a 180\ndegree v12 and not a \"true\" boxer, while the subaru and porsche are\ntrue boxers.  don't know about the vw bug though, but i suspect that\nit is also a true boxer.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nAh, those poor genocide apologists. Such quaintly charming habits of the\nArmenian barbarism and fascism. No swinging of lies will be enough to cover \nup the crimes of the x-Soviet Armenian Government. Not a chance. Now let \nthe Kurdish scholars speak for themselves.\n\nSource: Hassan Arfa, \"The Kurds,\" (London, 1968), pp. 25-26.\n\n \"When the Russian armies invaded Turkey after the Sarikamish disaster \n  of 1914, their columns were preceded by battalions of irregular \n  Armenian volunteers, both from the Caucasus and from Turkey. One of \n  these was commanded by a certain Andranik, a blood-thirsty adventurer.\n  These Armenian volunteers committed all kinds of excesses, more\n  than six hundred thousand Kurds being killed between 1915 and 1916 in \n  the eastern vilayets of Turkey.\"\n\nSources: (The Ottoman State, the Ministry of War), \"Islam Ahalinin \nDucar Olduklari Mezalim Hakkinda Vesaike Mustenid Malumat,\" (Istanbul, 1918). \nThe French version: \"Documents Relatifs aux Atrocites Commises par les Armeniens\nsur la Population Musulmane,\" (Istanbul, 1919). In the Latin script: H. K.\nTurkozu, ed., \"Osmanli ve Sovyet Belgeleriyle Ermeni Mezalimi,\" (Ankara,\n1982). In addition: Z. Basar, ed., \"Ermenilerden Gorduklerimiz,\" (Ankara,\n1974) and, edited by the same author, \"Ermeniler Hakkinda Makaleler -\nDerlemeler,\" (Ankara, 1978). \"Askeri Tarih Belgeleri ...,\" Vol. 32, 83\n(December 1983), document numbered 1881.\n\"Askeri Tarih Belgeleri ....,\" Vol. 31, 81 (December 1982), document\n numbered 1869.\n\n\"Those who were capable of fighting were taken away at the very beginning\n with the excuse of forced labor in road construction, they were taken\n in the direction of Sarikamis and annihilated. When the Russian army\n withdrew, a part of the remaining people was destroyed in Armenian\n massacres and cruelties: they were thrown into wells, they were locked\n in houses and burned down, they were killed with bayonets and swords, in places\n selected as butchering spots, their bellies were torn open, their lungs\n were pulled out, and girls and women were hanged by their hair after\n being subjected to every conceivable abominable act. A very small part \n of the people who were spared these abominations far worse than the\n cruelty of the inquisition resembled living dead and were suffering\n from temporary insanity because of the dire poverty they had lived\n in and because of the frightful experiences they had been subjected to.\n Including women and children, such persons discovered so far do not\n exceed one thousand five hundred in Erzincan and thirty thousand in\n Erzurum. All the fields in Erzincan and Erzurum are untilled, everything\n that the people had has been taken away from them, and we found them\n in a destitute situation. At the present time, the people are subsisting\n on some food they obtained, impelled by starvation, from Russian storages\n left behind after their occupation of this area.\"\n \n\nSource: \"Adventures in the Near East\" by A. Rawlinson, Jonathan Cape, \n30 Bedford Square, London, 1934 (First published 1923) (287 pages).\n(Memoirs of a British officer who witnessed the Armenian genocide of 2.5 \n million Muslim people)\n\np. 184 (second paragraph)\n\n \"I had received further very definite information of horrors that\n  had been committed by the Armenian soldiery in Kars Plain, and as \n  I had been able to judge of their want of discipline by their \n  treatment of my own detached parties, I had wired to Tiflis from \n  Zivin that 'in the interests of humanity the Armenians should not \n  be left in independent command of the Moslem population, as, their \n  troops being without discipline and not under effective control, \n  atrocities were constantly being committed, for which we should \n  with justice eventually be held to be morally responsible'.\"\n\np. 177 (third paragraph)\n\n \"Armenian troops, who, having pillaged and destroyed all the\n  Moslem villages in the plain....\"\n\n \"Caravans of refugees were in the meanwhile constantly arriving from the\n  plain, from which the whole Moslem population was fleeing with as much of\n  their personal property as they could transport, seeking to obtain security\n  and protection...\"\n\np. 178 (first paragraph)\n\n \"In those Moslem villages in the plain below which had been searched \n  for arms by the Armenians everything had been taken under the cloak of \n  such search, and not only had many Moslems been killed, but horrible \n  tortures had been inflicted in the endeavour to obtain information as \n  to where valuables had been hidden, of which the Armenians were aware \n  of the existence, although they had been unable to find them.\"\n\np. 181 (first paragraph)\n\n \"the Armenians from the plain were attacking the Kurdish line with \n  artillery, with probably a large force in support.\"\n\np. 175 (first paragraph)\n\n \"The arrival of this British brigade was followed by the announcement\n  that Kars Province had been allotted by the Supreme Council of the\n  Allies to the Armenians, and that announcement having been made, the\n  British troops were then completely withdrawn, and Armenian occupation\n  commenced. Hence all the trouble; for the Armenians at once commenced\n  the wholesale robbery and persecution of the Muslem population on the\n  pretext that it was necessary forcibly to deprive them of their arms.\n  In the portion of the province which lies in the plains they were able\n  to carry out their purpose, and the manner in which this was done will\n  be referred to in due course.\"\n\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nThe IBM XGA SVGA VESA driver is on the 2.02 reference diskette, available\nfrom the IBM BBS.  It's also on Compu$erve, or you can bang on your sales\nrep to get you a later version.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"It seems that Egypt is only interested in fighting wars against its own\npeople, while objecting to any steps for Bosnia.. I am not surprised,\nWHo said that Mubarak represents Egypt (Hell he does not even represent\nall the criminals of Egypt)\n\n\n....\n\nThanks Saudia for the pocket change.\nCompare that to the \"Liberation of Q8\" and to what they gave to some\nweird causes.. O.K at least they are paying.\n\n\nMr. Amr Moussa was not worried about International law when he tortured\nto death  many of his citizens and when he shot people praying in a Mosque,\nor when he is causing trouble to his neighbor just becasue the CIA says so.\nWhy doesn't he just shut up, he won't be involved in any Bosnian effort\nanyway, or does the west have to be represented even in an Islamic conference?\n\nThe more I hear about the Egyptian regime, the more I understand the\nexistence of the \"Jamaa Islamiyah\" there. After all most of its members\nand leaders are former and current victims of government torture, injustice,\nor relatives of victims. In some other places they get psychiatric care AND\nrevenge in the COURTS. But all they got is more of the same resulting  in a \ncycle of madness that is initiated by the government with the illicit support \nof the west who is more concerned about the safety of half naked tourists in\nconservative neighborhoods than the dignity, social justice, and safety of the\nmajority of the poor oppressed people of Egypt. Enough said.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"o Kenwood Audiophile Cassette Tape Deck\n  Asking $199.00 obo + shipping, (original price I paid - $450.00),\n  excellent condition, well maintained, rarely used.\n\n  - Model KX-900\n  - Kenwood Audiophile Series (Kenwood highend stereo component)\n  - Programmable playback with Memory System (used to program the playback\n    order if selection.  Program is stored in RAM (Random Access Memory)\n    System with digital display of the song # being played)\n  - Counter Memory Index (when this mode is selected, count '000' of the\n    Tape Counter can be stored in memory.  This function is useful when it\n    is necessary to stop of restart the tape at '000' during fast forward\n    or rewind.\n  - Search Mode (Searching for a selection, skipping a selection or\n    repeating a selection can be preformed at a touch.)\n  - Time stand by switch (this is used along with an audio timer when an\n    unattended timer-recording or timer-playback is performed.)\n  - Dolby NR with MPX filter\n  - Bias adjustment (used to obtain optimum bias that matches the type of\n    type to be played)\n  - Tape selector switch (CrO2, FeCr, Normal, Metal)\n  - REC MUTE key (When recording, press this key to delete undesired portions\n    between programs such as announcements and commercials. When this key\n    is pressed, the tape runs forwards for 5 seconds to make an unrecorded\n    section, then the PAUSE function automatically stops the tape.  To\n    restart recording, press PAUSE key once.)\n  - Flurescent PEAK PROGRAM METERS\n  - Rec level controls\n  - Phone Jack\n  - Mic Jacks\n  - Input Selector switch\n  - SPECS:","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nActually, I've heard that some M1 Abrams tank commanders take the \ngoverners off their turbine engines, and can acheive 90MPH on a\npaved road.  Never seen it myself, but I believe it...\n\n\n[stuff deleted]\n\n\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n        ___          \n       \/ _ \\                 '85 Mustang GT                        Bob Pitas\n      \/    \/USH              14.13 @ 99.8                      bpita@ctp.com\n     \/ \/| \\                  Up at NED, Epping, NH           (Cambridge, MA)\n\n                           \"\" - Geddy Lee (in YYZ)\nDisclaimer: These opinions are mine, obviously, since they end with my .sig!","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nThough there is a command in the law not to heed to one who prophecies \nfalsely, it is still possible for the one who has prophecied falsely\nto prophecy truely again.  Take, for example the story in Kings about the\nman of God from Judah who came to israel and prophecied against a king.\nThe Lord had commanded him to not eat or drink till he returned home.\nAnother prophet wanted this man of God to stay in his house, so he\nprophecied falsely that the Lord wanted the man of God to stay in his \nhouse.  While they ate and drank in his house, the Lord gave the prophet\nwho lied a word that the man of God would die from breaking the word of\nthe Lord.  It came to pass.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I heard that there will be an Apple price drop coming June 30th.  Can\nanyone second this rumour?\n-- \nA motion picture major at the Brooks Institute of Photography, CA\nSanta Barbara and a foreign student from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\nProbably, but the point is THE COMPANY make the registration patch, NOT\nYOU.  Sure, you can probably find another registerred user and compare notes,\nbut WHY?  It's not hindering you in any way unless you are just hacking.\n[Problem about people who cut TOO MUCH from quoting...]\n\n\nNothing, but if you read my WHOLE suggestion, I'm saying that you register\nvia MAIL by mailing in your registration card, THEN the company send you\nthe patch which includes the info you put on the registration card.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I'd like to install an Apple (Quantum) 40 MB hard drive taken from a IIsi in an\nexternal PowerDrive box from Hard Drives International that currenty has a dead\nConner mechanism in it. Have you done this (or do you know how)? If so, could\nyou please walk me through it, in as much detail as possible?\n\nPlease email me directly. If anyone else is interested in this, email me and\nI'll forward responses to you. If enough people want instructions, I'll post a\nsummary within a week or so.\n\nThanks in advance,","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI hadn't heard of the Valentine-1 before. Car&Driver and other auto\nmagazines\nrecommend BEL detectors.  I was considering their latest - the 966STi -\nwhich picks up Super Wideband Ka and Laser as well.  It also avoids \nradar detector detectors (although I really don't care about this since I\ndoubt I'll be driving in Virginia anytime soon - or have any other states\nalso made detectors iilegal?)\n\nHow does the Valentine-1 compare with the BEL products?","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"please subscrive me.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"C&T chip set 286-12 mother board C&T BIOS with 2 meg RAM (80ns).  Reply\nwith reasonable offer if you are interested...  Thanks!  :)","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n   > Just curious, how would the Clipper Chip system handle\n   > conference calls?\n\n   It's not Clipper, it's any encryption system.  I've seen a number of\n   designs; they generally involve a multi-line cleartext bridge.\n\nDepending on the encryption system, so long as everyone has the same\nkey, it can be done.  For example, I was using \"vat\", which is an\nInternet Audio tool, for a conference call, and we were encrypting the\nsession.  (Unfortunately, one site was doing more work, and didn't\nhave the CPU for it, so it didn't sound all that good at a different\nsite)\n\nSo, you don't neccessarily have to have a clear-text bridge.  But if\nyou do, its totally internal to one of the sites involved in the\nconversation....\n\n-derek\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Somewhere or other I read that when a person of Chinese heritage was\ntold that he had high blood pressure he responded by eating celery\n(sorry, I don't recall the \"dosage\").  Apparently this is supposed to\nwork in reducing hypertension.\n\nCan anyone out there verify this?  And if it does work, does anyone\nknow the appropriate amounts and possible side-effects?","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nI hope there is not one- with a subject like this you just have a spiral.  What\nwould then be a morality of a morality of morals.  Labels don't make arguments. \nOne really needs a solid measuring stick by which most actions can be\ninterpreted, even though this would hardly seem moral.  For example \"The best\nthing for me is to ensure that I will eat and drink enough.  Hence all actions\nmust be weighed against this one statement.\"  whatever helps this goal is\n\"moral\", whatever does not is \"immoral\"\n\nOf course this leads such a blank space: there are so many different ways to\nfulfill a goal, one would need a \"hyper-morality\" to apply to just the methods.\n\n\nSeems to me we only consider something moral or immoral if we stop to think\nabout it long enough  :)  On the other hand, maybe it is our first gut\nreaction...  Which?  Who knows: perhaps here we have a way to discriminate\nmorals.  I don't instinctively thing vegetarianism is right (the same way I\ninstinctively feel torture is wrong), but if I thought about it long enough and\nlistened to the arguments, I could perhaps reason that it was wrong (is that\npossible!?  :) )  See the difference?\n\n-- \n\n\nbest regards,\n\n--Adam","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I think this didn't get posted before (I've been reading\nUSENET for the longest time, but never had much interest in posting\nuntil recently).  This is what I typed before:\n\n\tI have written Mr. Limbaugh before, and I loathe to use the\nname Rush in association with him, because he is unworthy to have a\nname in common with some of the greatest musicians in our time, the\nBAND, Rush.  \n\tHis address, as some of you wanted is:\n\t70277.2502@compuserve.com\n\tHe has been to wrapped up in himself to respond to me, but\nmaybe some of you will have better luck.  :)  bye!\n--\n\tg'bye for now...\n\n\t-=I   Tree   I=-                  a.k.a. Andy Novak\n\n---------------------------------------------------------------------\n            anovak@titan.ucs.umass.edu \n                  anovak@twain.ucs.umass.edu\n---------------------------------------------------------------------\n--\n\tg'bye for now...\n\n\t-=I   Tree   I=-                  a.k.a. Andy Novak\n\n---------------------------------------------------------------------\n            anovak@titan.ucs.umass.edu \n                  anovak@twain.ucs.umass.edu","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Regarding the consequences of the original sin:\n\nCatholics believe that what Adam primarily lost by his sin, for\nhimself and the human race, was sanctifying grace.  This is basically\na share in the Divine life.  Take a rock and make it able to talk:\nwhat God does to a human being through sanctifying grace is similar.\nIt makes such a one able to live on a plane that is above the powers\nof any possible creature.  This is the \"everlasting life\" that the New\nTestament speaks of.\n\nWhat Christ did when he came was to restore this life of sanctifying\ngrace to the human race.  He instituted the Sacraments as the means by\nwhich this life is given to people, and its increase fostered.\n\nThe absence of sanctifying grace at death means automatic exclusion\nfrom Heaven.  The nature of Heaven is such that it's impossible for a\nhuman being to have any part in it without the gift of sanctifying\ngrace.  To use my example, it would be like taking that rock and\nattempting to hold a conversation with it: rocks cannot talk.  Neither\ncan human beings live in Heaven without sanctifying grace.\n\nThis all obviously applies equally well to infants or adults, since\nboth have souls.  Infants must be baptized, therefore, or they cannot\nenter into Heaven.  They too need this form of life in them, or they\ncannot enter into Heaven.\n\nTurning it around, infant baptism is good supporting evidence for the\nCatholic belief in sanctifying grace.  Unless Baptism causes some\nchange in an infant's soul, there is no particular reason to insist on\nthe practice.  Yet infant Baptism was probably practiced by the\nApostles themselves, and was *certainly* part of the Church shortly\nthereafter.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nI keep hearing this, but every assertion of this form has come from\ngovernment sources except two.  As far as I am concerned, I am not\nready to stipulate that Koresh EVER promised to come out except for\nhis first promise and his last promise.\n\nThe first promise was conditional on his audio tape being given \nNATIONAL exposure.  Well, it never was -- it was broadcast locally,\nin a chopped-up fashion, and that's all.  And even then, they cleverly \ncut it off when it got to the part where he demanded \"national exposure,\"\nbut not so cleverly that we didn't hear it.\n\nThe last promise was conditional on the finishing of his manuscript.\nWe'll never know if he would have kept that one.\n\n\nStrangely enough, the previous day they said they were prepared to\n\"wait as long as it takes.\"\n\n\nQuite possible.  But arguments of intent do not mark the dividing \nline between guilt and innocence -- only the line between murder and \nnegligent manslaughter.\n\n\nThis would be an interesting development.\n\n\nIt's too tempting for one or more of the survivors to \"go state's\nevidence,\" parrot the FBI story, hang the whole \"suicide\" on Koresh, \nclaim they only stayed at gunpoint, etc.  If any of them do this\nin the next few weeks, it doesn't prove much; but if none of them\ndo, it would be a strong indication to me that the FBI story is\ndead wrong.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n     I am curious about knowing which commericial cars today\n   have v engines.\n\n   V4 - I don't know of any.\n   V6 - Legend, MR3? MR6?\n\nVW Golf\/Passat 2.8l VR6 (inline V6!), very narrow angle (11 deg?), one head.\nAudi 80\/100 2.6\/2.8l V6\n\n   V8 - Don't know of any.\n\nAudi V8 3.6\/4.2l\nSome MBs\nSome BMWs\n\n   V12 - Jaguar XJS\nBMW 750\/850\nMB *600*\n\n    Please add to the list.\n\n\n    Thanks,\n    -S\n    ssave@ole.cdac.com","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nDoes anyone know of an X-based terminal emulator which can\nemulate a color tektronics graphics terminal such as \nTEK 4105 or TEK 4107, etc?\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nWood played most of his junior career in Seattle.  He was one\nof the leading scorers on a mediocre team when he was traded away in\n1992.  He rarely lost a fight and was one of the toughest players in\nthe WHL.\n\nHowever, I was extremely surprised when he was drafted, especially in\nthe third round.  He certainly didn't look like NHL material...","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":": \n: In the NT, the clear references are all from Paul's letters.  In Rom\n: 1, there is a passage that presupposes that homosexuality is an evil.\n: Note that the passage isn't about homosexuality -- it's about\n: idolatry.  Homosexuality is visited on people as a punishment, or at\n: least result, of idolatry.  There are a number of arguments over this\n: passage.  It does not use the word \"homosexuality\", and it is referring\n: to people who are by nature heterosexual practicing homosexuality.\n: So it's not what I'd call an explicit teaching against all homosexuality.\n\nThat's like saying that murder is only wrong for those of us who aren't natural\nmurders, and stealing is only wrong for those of us who aren't natural\nthieves.\n\nWill","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nThis would be tedious, but if you have the time you could get the .bdf\nfile (I can email it to you if you don't have it or don't have easy access \nto the X source), and could make your own bold font from this.  Since each\nglyph is just a bitmap, you could write a program to convert each\nglyph to a bitmap-readable file, use bitmap to make each glyph \"bold\", and\nconvert the results back to .bdf format.  Then, use \"bdftopcf\" to create\nthe .pcf file.  Then, stick the .pcf in \/usr\/lib\/X11\/fonts\/misc (or wherever)\nand include it in fonts.dir and, voila, you'll have what you need!\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"[...]\n\nNo no no no no no no.\n\nIt will go like this:\n\nFEDS: We need the key to phone 334RE67D99.\n\nESCROW: You have a warrant to tap the line phone 334RE67D99 is on?\n\nFEDS: Yes.\n\nESCROW: Fine, here is our key.\n\nWhat happens is, Feds tap a line; find Clipper is being used; extract\nserial number; get key; decipher convo.  The serial number is never\nregistered to a specific owner, it is _sent_ as part of the\nconversation.  If I give you my Clipper phone, you do not need to\nre-register it (mainly because it was never 'registered' to me in the\nfirst place).\n\nThere are a lot of things that bother me about Clipper, but this is\nnot one of them.  Let's get our facts straight and not waste effort\ndemolishing straw men.\n\n\tRA\n\nrogue@cs.neu.edu (Rogue Agent\/SoD!)","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I'm trying to bring in 8+ bits to a PC, and would like\n\tto use interrupt-driven routines. Without buying an IO\n\tboard or making a new port, _where_ can I bring in these\n\tbits? LPT seems to have only a few inputs, but I've heard\n\trumours that some LPTs have bidirectional lines. Anybody\n\tknow fer sure? If any bi-d LPTs, which boards have them\n\t(I'll be running a new 386DX-33)?\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------\nAlan Erickson   erickson@baltic.nmt.edu\t\t\n\nto all SunRayce '93 competitors: I hope you're getting\nabout as much sleep as I am.....","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nI read a great book about eye dominance several years ago. So there is one\nbook out there..at least one :).\n\nThere were several types of eye dominance. Where a person looks in their\nmemory usually indicates a type of eye dominanc Another type is related to\ncoordination activities like hitting a ball. Another for reading. \n\nI didn't read one that discussed prescription strength. Although people\nwith bad vision, near or far sighted would tend to depend on the stronger\neye. ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nAnd who was it that insisted sidestand cutout switches were right up\nthere with tachometers, something like a curse from God?\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I wasn't sure if this was the right newsgroup to post this to, but I guess\nthe misc is there for a reason.  Here goes...  I am getting married in June to \na devout (Wisconsin Synod) Lutheran.  I would classify myself as a strong \nagnostic\/weak athiest.  This has been a a subject of many discussions between\nus and is really our only real obstacle.  We don't have any real difficulties \nwith the religious differences yet, but I expect they will pop up when we have \nchildren.  I have agreed to raise the\nchildren \"nominally\" Lutheran.  That is, Lutheran traditions, but trying to\nkeep an open mind.  I am not sure if this is even possible though.  I feel that\nthat the worst quality of being devoutly religous is the lack of an open mind.\n\n     Anyway, I guess I'll get on with my question.  Is anyone in the same \nsituation and can give some suggestions as to how to deal with this?  We've \ntaken the attitude so far of just talking about it a lot and not letting \nanything get bottled up inside.  Sometimes I get the feeling we're making this \nmuch bigger than it actually is.  Any comments would be greatly appreciated.  \nAlso, please e-mail responses since I don't get a chance to read this group\noften.  :-(","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nNot always true. In fact, in the case of Doug Gilmour, he actually praises them.\n\nEuropeans that do those things are scum in Cherry's opinion. Canadian kids\nthat do them are \"tough, just like a real Canadian\". \n\nUlf Samuelsson cheap shots Mark Messier's ribs and Don wants Ulf's head. Doug\nGilmour breaks Tomas Sandstrom's arm and Don says Sandstrom had it coming. \nMethinks Don is either very confused or just a bigot. Most likely the latter.\n\nI used to like Don Cherry. I thought he was great. But I'm starting to see\nhis true colors (redneck) and the more I see of them, the more I think he's\njust an asshole.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nSure sounds like aXe to me.\n\n-- \n\nMichael Salmon\n\n#include\t<standard.disclaimer>\n#include\t<witty.saying>\n#include\t<fancy.pseudo.graphics>","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n\nflat = 180 deg V = horizonatlly opposed\n\nUsually, it also equals \"boxer,\" however, I think the term is\ntraditionally reserved for 8's and 12's (and firing order matters).\nThis was talked about here in r.a many months back; I can't remember\nthe consensus.\n\nExamples:\n\nFerrari's 512TR is a flat 12 boxer.\nPorsche's 911 is a flat 6.\nSubaru's Impreza is a flat 4.\n\nRegards,\n\nBrian\n\nbqueiser@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu\n------------------------------------------------------------------------\nI am the engineer, I can choose K.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Some of the MD's in this newsgroup have been riding my butt pretty good\n(maybe in some cases with good reason).  In this post on depression, I'm \nlaying it all out.  I'll continue to post here because I think that I have \nsome knowledge that could be useful.  Once you have read this post, you \nshould know where I'm coming from when I post again in the future.\n\n \nLida,\nI can emphasize with your situation.  Both my wife and I suffered from \nbouts of depression.  Her's was brought on by breast cancer and mine was a \nrebound stress reaction to her modified radical mastectomy and \nchemotherapy.  Lida, I used my knowledge of nutrition to get her through \nher six months of chemotherapy(with the approval of her oncologist).  When \nsevere depression set in a few months after the chemo stopped, I tried to \nuse supplements to bring her out of it.  I had \"cured\" her PMS using \nsupplements and I really thought that I knew enough about the role of diet \nin depression to take care of her depression as well.  It didn't work and \nshe was put on Prozac by her oncologist.  Two Winters ago(three years after \nby wife's breast cancer) I got hit with severe depression(pretty typical and \none reason why many marriages break up after breast cancer or another \nstressor).  I tried to take care of it for several months with \nsupplementation.  Didn't work.  My internist ended up putting me on Prozac. \nI was going to give you a list of several studies that have been done using \nB6, niacin, folate and B12 to \"cure\" depression.  I'm not going to do that \nbecause all you would be doing is flying blind like I was.\n\nLida, I do believe that depression can have a dietary component.  But the \nproblem is that you need to know exactly what the problem is and then use \nan approach which will \"fix\" the problem.  For chemotherapy, I knew exactly \nwhat drugs were going to be used and exactly what nutrients would be \naffected.  Same thing for PMS.  I was flying blind for both of these \nstressors but the literature that I used to devise a treatment program was \npretty good.  Depression is just too complicated.  What you really need is \na nutritional scan.  This is not a diet analysis but an analysis of your \nbodies nutrient reserves.  For every vitamin and mineral(except vitamin C), \nyou have a reserve.  The RDA is not designed to give you enough of any \nnutrient to keep these reserves full, it is only designed to keep them from \nbeing emptied which would cause clinical pathology.  Stress will increase \nyour need for many vitamins and minerals.  This is when your reserves become \nvery important.\n\nLida, without your permission, I'm going to use your post as a conduit to \ntry to explain to the readers in this group and Sci. Med. where I'm coming \nfrom.  I have taught a course on human nutrition in one of the Osteopathic \nMedical schools for ten years now.  I've written my own textbook because \nnone was available.  What I teach is not a rehash of biochemistry.  I \npreach nutrient reserves(yes my lectures in this course are referred to by \nmy students as sermons).  Here is what I cover:\n\nIndroduction and Carbohydrates \t\t\tLipids\n\nProteins I\t\t\t\t\tProteins II\n\nEnergy Balance\t\t\t\t\tEvaluation of Nutritional\n\t\t\t\t\t\tStatus I, A Clinical \n\t\t\t\t\t\tPerspective\n\nEvaluation of Nutritional Status II,            Evaluation of Nutritional\t\t\nA Biochemical Perspective\t\t\tStatus III, Homework \n\t\t\t\t\t\tAssignment Using the \n\t\t\t\t\t\tNutritionist IV Diet and \n\t\t\t\t\t\tFitness Analysis Software \n\t\t\t\t\t\tprogram\n\nWeight Control\t\t\t\t\tFood Fads and Facts\n\nAge-Related Change in Nutrient Requirements\tFood Additives, \n\t\t\t\t\t\tContaminants and Cancer\n\nDrug-Nutrient Interactions\t\t\tMineral and Water Balance\n\nSodium, Potassium and Chloride\t\t\tCalcium, Magnesium and \n\t\t\t\t\t\tPhosphorus\n\nIron\t\t\t\t\t\tZinc and Copper\n\nIodine and Fluoride\t\t\t\tOther Trace Minerals\n\nVitamin A\t\t\t\t\tVitamin E\n\nVitamins D and K\t\t\t\tVitamin C\n\nThiamin and Niacin\t\t\t\tRiboflavin and Pyridoxine\n\nPantothenic and Folic acids\t\t\tBiotin and B12\n\nOther Nutrient Factors\t\t\t\tEnteral Nutrition\n\nParenteral Nutrition\n\nEvery three years I spend my entire Summer reviewing the Medical literature \nto find material that I can use in my nutrition textbook.  I last did this \nin the Summer of 1991.  I read everything that I can find and then sit down \nand rewrite my lecture handouts which are bound in three separate books \nthat have 217, 237 and 122 pages.  Opposite each page of written text(which \nI write myself) I've pulled figures, tables and graphs from various \ncopyrighted sources.  Since this material is only being used for \neducational purposes, I can get around the copyright laws (so far).  I can not \nsend this material out to newsgroup readers(as I've been asked to do).\n\nI am now in the process of trying to get a grant to setup a nutrition \nassessment lab.  This is the last peice of the nutrition puzzle that I need \nto make my education program complete.  This lab will let me measure the \nnutrient reserve for almost all the vitamins and minerals that are known to \nbe required in humans.  The Mayo clinic already uses a similiar lab to \ndesign supplement programs for their cancer patients.  Cancer Treatment \nCenters of America, which is a private for-profit organization with \nhospitals in Illinois and Oklahoma(Tulsa) also operates a \nnutritional assessment clinical lab.  I also believe that the Pritikin \nClinic in California has a similiar lab setup.\n\nFor physicians reading this post, I would suggest that you get the new \nClinical Nutrition Textbook that has just been published(Feb) by Mosby.  I \nhave been using Alpers Manual of Nutritional Therapeutics(a Little Brown \nseries book) as a supplemental text for my course but Alpers is geared more \nto residency training.  Two M.D's have written this new Clinical Nutrition\ntextbook and it is geared more towards medical student education and it \ndoes a good job of covering the lab tests that can be run to assess a \npatient's nutritional status.  Let me quote a few sentences from the \nPreface of this new text:\n\n\"So-called nutrition specialists were in reality gastroenterologists, \nhematologists, or pediatricians who just happened to profess some knowledge \nof nutrition as it related to their field of practice.\"  \n\n\"Unfortunately, about two thirds of the medical schools in the United \nStates require no formal instruction in nutrition.\"\n\n\"But times and medical practice have changed.  More than half of the \nleading causes of death in this country are nutrition related.\"\n\n\"... this monograph should accomplish the following two objectives: (1) it \nshould complement your medical training by emphasizing the relevance of \nnutrition to your medical practice; and (2) it should heighten your \nawareness of nutrition as a medical speciality that is vitally important \nfor both disease prevention and the treatment of diseases of essentially \nevery organ system.\"\n\nRoland L. Weinsier, MD, DrPH \n\nLida, my advise to you is that you tell your family members to try to find \na physician who has an understanding of the role that vitamins and minerals\n(yes even magnesium may play a role in depression) play in depression and \nwho could get a nutritional profile run.  Menopause is often a time when \nwomen suffer depression.  There are a lot of hormonal changes that are \noccuring but they are not the same ones that occur during PMS.  A \nnutritionist may also be able to help.  Not too long ago a poster mentioned \nthat his nutritionist had diagnosed a selenium deficiency based on a red \ncell glutathionine peroxidase test(the specific test for the selenium \nreserve).  Most clinical labs will not run this test and I advised him to \ntry to make sure that the lab that did the test was certified.  There are \nalso a lot of hair and nail analysis labs setup to do trace mineral \nanalysis but these labs are not regulated.  Checks of these labs using \ncertified standards, and also those doing water lead analysis, showed some \npretty shoddy testing was going on.  If you or anyone else finds someone \nwho will run these speciality nutrition tests, make sure that they are \nusing a lab that has been certified under CLIA(the Clinical Laboratory \nImprovement Act).  \n\nA diet analysis may be helpful since many nutrient reserves have been shown \nto correlate fairly well with the dietary intake as monitored by food logging \nand software analysis(Nutritionist IV and other software programs).  But \nthere are still about half of the nutrients required by humans that do not \nshow a very good correlation between apparent dietary intake and reserve status.\nUntil we have more nutritional assessment clinical labs in operation in the \nU.S. and physicians who have been trained how to use the nutritional \nprofile that these labs provide to devise a treatment approach that uses \ndiet changes and supplementation, anti-depressants will probably continue \nto be the best approach to depression.\n\nMartin Banschbach, Ph.D.\nProfessor of Biochemistry and Chairman\nDepartment of Biochemistry and Microbiology\nOSU College of Osteopathic Medicine","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":": The median of a distribution is that variate-value which divides the\n: distribution halfway, i.e. 1\/2 of the distribution (population) have\n: lower and half have higher variate-values.\n\n: So for Males 20-39 the median=7.3, this means that half of these men\n: are higher than this and half are lower than this.  Now if the population\n: sample size is 3300, and 1% of them are gay, 33 males are gay.  If we\n: say they are distributed equally then only 16.5 are greater than 7.3\n: sexual partners, of course, this means that 49.5% heterosexual men are\n: greater than 7.3.\n\nNot quite.  First, the median does not imply that half of the men are\nabove and half below 7.3: it simply means that 7.3 is the mid-point\nbetween the maximum number of partners and the minimum (which is most\nlikely zero).  However, assuming your implication to be more-or-less\ncorrect, your final result is still invalid.  If 50% of *all* males\nhave had more than 7.3 partners, and you deduct the assumed 1% of \nhomosexual males, what remains is not 49.5%, but still *50%* of all\n*heterosexual* males.  Which is to say: hey, we're all human.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\tTry rec.radio.packet\n\n \n     _______  ______\n    \/        \/        \/       \/    Michael A. de Kraker\n   \/        \/______  \/       \/     Georgia State University  404-651-2390\n  \/    ___        \/ \/       \/      Internet:REGMAD@GSUSGI2.GSU.EDU\n \/_______\/ ______\/ \/_______\/       BITNET  :REGMAD@GSUVM1  PACKET:KD4FKW@W4QO","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nI don't really mind the length of games either.  If they want to speed\nthe games up in sensible ways, that's fine with me too.  However, what\nI object to is the assertion by baseball people (Whitey Herzog, Buck\nRodgers are who I've heard say this) that games are too long because\nhitters are taking too many pitches, and that the strike zone needs to\nbe expanded.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Someone please fill me in on what 3do.\n\nThanks,","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"The following article by columnist Mike Royko is his humorous commentary\non some of the public's perception of doctors and their salaries.\nI hope some of you will find it as amusing as I did.\n\n____________________________________________________________________________\n[Reprinted w\/o permission]\n\n\n\"There's no cure for stupidity of poll on doctors' salaries\"\n\nBy Mike Royko\nTribune Media Services\n\n\n     On a stupidity scale, a recent poll about doctors' earnings \nis right up there.  It almost scored a perfect brain-dead 10.\n     It  was  commissioned by some whiny consumers  group  called \nFamilies USA.\n      The  poll tells us that the majority of  Americans  believe \nthat doctors make too much money.\n     The  pollsters  also asked what a fair income would  be  for \nphysicians.  Those polled said, oh, about $80,000 a year would be \nOK.\n     How generous.  How sporting.  How stupid.\n     Why is this poll stupid?   Because it is based on resentment \nand envy, two emotions that ran hot during the political campaign \nand are still simmering.\n     You could conduct the same kind of poll about any group that \nearns $100,000-plus and get the same results.  Since the majority \nof Americans don't make those bucks,  they assume that those  who \ndo are stealing it from them.\n     Maybe  the Berlin Wall came down,  but don't  kid  yourself.  \nKarl Marx lives.\n     It's also stupid because it didn't ask key  questions,  such \nas:  Do  you  know how much education and training  it  takes  to \nbecome a physician?\n     If those polled said no,  they didn't know, then they should \nhave  been disqualified.   If they gave the wrong  answers,  they \nshould have been dropped.   What good are their views on how much \na doctor should earn if they don't know what it takes to become a \ndoctor?\n     Or maybe a question should have been phrased this way:  \"How \nmuch  should  a person earn if he or she must (a)  get  excellent \ngrades and a fine educational foundation in high school in  order \nto (b) be accepted by a good college and spend four years  taking \ncourses heavy in math, physics, chemistry, and other lab work and \nmaintain a 3.5 average or better,  and (c) spend four more  years \nof  grinding study in medical school,  with the third and  fourth \nyears in clinical training,  working 80 to 100 hours a week,  and \n(d) spend another year as a low-pay,  hard-work intern,  and  (e) \nput  in  another  three to 10 years  of  post-graduate  training, \ndepending  on  your specialty and (f) maybe wind up  $100,000  in \ndebt  after  medical school and (g) then work an  average  of  60 \nhours  a week,  with many family doctors putting in 70  hours  or \nmore until they retire or fall over?\"\n     As  you have probably guessed by now,  I  have  considerably \nmore  respect for doctors than does the law firm of  Clinton  and \nClinton,  and all the lawyers and insurance executives they  have \ncalled together to remake America's health care.\n     Based  on what doctors contribute to society,  they are  far \nmore useful than the power-happy,  ego-tripping, program-spewing, \nsocial tinkerers who will probably give us a medical plan that is \nto health what Clinton's first budget is to frugality.\n     But propaganda works.   And,  as the stupid poll  indicates, \nmany Americans wrongly believe that profiteering doctors are  the \nmajor cause of high medical costs.\n     Of  course doctors are well-compensated.   They  should  be.  \nAmericans now live longer than ever.   But who is responsible for \nour longevity--lawyers,  Congress, or the guy flipping burgers in \na McDonald's?\n     And the doctors prolong our lives despite our having  become \na  nation  of  self-indulgent,   lard-butted,   TV-gaping   couch \ncabbages.\n     Ah,  that  is not something you heard President  Clinton  or \nSuper  Spouse  talk  about during the  campaign  or  since.   But \ninstead of trying to turn the medical profession into a  villain, \n     \"Let  us  talk  about medical care and one  of  the  biggest \nproblems we have.   That problem is you, my fellow American. Yes, \nyou,  eating  too much and eating the wrong foods;  many  of  you \nguzzling  too  much hooch;  still puffing away at $2.50  a  pack; \ngetting  your daily exercise by lumbering from the fridge to  the \nmicrowave to the couch; doing dope and bringing crack babies into \nthe  world;  filling  the big city emergency rooms  with  gunshot \nvictims;  engaging  in unsafe sex and catching a  deadly  disease \nwhile blaming the world for not finding an instant cure.\n     \"You  and  your habits,  not the  doctors,  are  the  single \nbiggest  health  problem in this country.   If  anything,  it  is \namazing that the docs keep you alive as long as they do.\n     \"In fact,  I don't understand how they can stand looking  at \nyour blubbery bods all day.\n     \"So as your president,  I call upon you to stop whining  and \nstart living cleanly.   Now I must go get myself a triple cheesy-\ngreasy with double fries.  Do as I say, not as I do.\"\n     But  for those who truly believe that doctors are  overpaid, \nthere is another solution: Don't use them.\n     That's right.   You don't feel well?   Then try one of those \nspine poppers,  needle twirlers, or have Rev. Bubba lay his hands \nupon your head and declare you fit.\n     Or  there is the do-it-yourself approach.   You  have  chest \npains?   Then sit in front of a mirror,  make a slit here, a slit \nthere, and pop in a couple of valves.\n     You're  going to have a kid?   Why throw your money at  that \noverpaid  sawbones so he can buy a better car and a bigger  house \nthan  you  will  ever  have  (while  paying  more  in  taxes  and \nmalpractice insurance than you will ever earn)?\n     Just have the kid the old-fashioned way.   Squat and do  it.  \nAnd if it survives,  you can go to the library and find a book on \nhow to give it its shots.\n     By  the  way,  has  anyone  ever done a  poll  on  how  much \npollsters should earn?\n\n\nRoyko  is  a Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist for  Tribune  Media \nServices.\n\n____________________________________________________________________________\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nThe following program is a very quick hack I created a few months\nago to determine whether a Sun Sparcstation IPC could perform\nreal-time, full-duplex encrypted audio with resulting data rates\nsustainable by today's modems.\n\nThis test program reads linearly-encoded audio from the audio device,\ncompresses it with GSM 06.10 (compresses frames of 160 13-bit samples\nrecorded at 8kHz into 260 bits resulting in a 50 Hz frame rate), encrypts\nit with DES, then reverses the process and sends the reconstructed audio\nback to the audio device.  The compressed, encrypted audio stream\nis 13 kbits\/s (!).\n\nMy Sparcstation IPC (not exactly a very fast machine these days,\ncertainly slower than an ELC) would just barely sustain this activity\n(audio underruns would occcur but the speech was very intelligible).  I\nran it as a real-time process to get the best results.  Remember,\nthough, that this program is a quick hack and the performance can\ncertainly be improved.\n\nThe audio compression routines can be ftp'd from tub.cs.tu-berlin.de,\nI believe (look for gsm or toast).  I used Eric Young's DES\nimplementation but I no longer know where I got it from.\n\nCheers!greg\n\n<--------------------------- CUT HERE ----------------------------->\n\/*\n * Test program to see how much CPU it takes for secure digital audio.\n * Written by G. Onufer (greg@cheers.Bungi.COM).\n *\n * Written on a Sun IPC running Solaris 2.2 with a Sun ISDN S-Bus card\n * and a SpeakerBox.\n *\/\n#include <stdlib.h>\n#include <unistd.h>\n#include <fcntl.h>\n#include <stdio.h>\n#include <sys\/types.h>\n#include <sys\/audioio.h>\n#include <stropts.h>\n\n#include <gsm.h>\n#include <des.h>\n\nboolean_t\nsvs_audio_init(int fd, audio_info_t *prev_info)\n{\n\taudio_info_t info;\n\n\tif (prev_info != NULL) {\n\t\tif (ioctl(fd, AUDIO_GETINFO, prev_info) < 0) {\n\t\t\tperror(\"AUDIO_GETINFO\");\n\t\t\treturn (B_FALSE);\n\t\t}\n\t}\n\n\tAUDIO_INITINFO(&info);\n\n\tinfo.record.pause = B_TRUE;\n\tinfo.play.pause = B_TRUE;\n\n\tinfo.play.sample_rate = 8000;\n\tinfo.play.encoding = AUDIO_ENCODING_LINEAR;\n\tinfo.play.channels = 1;\n\tinfo.play.precision = 16;\n\tinfo.record.sample_rate = 8000;\n\tinfo.record.encoding = AUDIO_ENCODING_LINEAR;\n\tinfo.record.channels = 1;\n\tinfo.record.precision = 16;\n\n\tinfo.record.buffer_size = 320 * 4;\n\n\tif (ioctl(fd, AUDIO_SETINFO, &info) < 0) {\n\t\tperror(\"AUDIO_SETINFO\");\n\t\treturn (B_FALSE);\n\t}\n\n\tif (ioctl(fd, I_FLUSH, FLUSHRW) < 0) {\n\t\tperror(\"I_FLUSH\");\n\t\treturn (B_FALSE);\n\t}\n\n\t\n\tAUDIO_INITINFO(&info);\n\n\tinfo.record.pause = B_FALSE;\n\tinfo.play.pause = B_FALSE;\n\n\tif (ioctl(fd, AUDIO_SETINFO, &info) < 0) {\n\t\tperror(\"AUDIO_SETINFO\");\n\t\treturn (B_FALSE);\n\t}\n\n\treturn (B_TRUE);\n}\n\n\nboolean_t\nsvs_in(int ifd, gsm handle, gsm_byte *buf)\n{\n\tgsm_signal sample[160];\n\n\tif (read(ifd, sample, sizeof (sample)) != sizeof (sample)) {\n\t\tfprintf(stderr, \"svs_in: short read\\n\");\n\t\treturn (B_FALSE);\n\t}\n\n\tgsm_encode(handle, sample, buf);\n\n\treturn (B_TRUE);\n}\n\n\nboolean_t\nsvs_out(int ofd, gsm handle, gsm_byte *buf)\n{\n\tgsm_signal sample[160];\n\n\tif (gsm_decode(handle, buf, sample) < 0) {\n\t\tfprintf(stderr, \"svs_out: gsm_decode failed\\n\");\n\t\treturn (B_FALSE);\n\t}\n\n\tif (write(ofd, sample, sizeof (sample)) != sizeof (sample)) {\n\t\tfprintf(stderr, \"svs_out: short write\\n\");\n\t\treturn (B_FALSE);\n\t}\n\n\treturn (B_TRUE);\n}\n\n\nmain()\n{\n\tgsm handle;\n\tgsm_frame frame;\n\tint audiofd;\n\tint option;\n\tdes_cblock key, ivec_in, ivec_out;\n\tdes_key_schedule ks_in, ks_out;\n\tdes_cblock cbuf_in[4], cbuf_out[4], cbuf_buf[4];\n\n\taudiofd = open(\"\/dev\/audio\", O_RDWR);\n\tif (audiofd < 0) {\n\t\tperror(\"open\");\n\t\texit(4);\n\t}\n\n\t\/*\n\t * Initialize GSM compression code\n\t *\/\n\tif ((handle = gsm_create()) == NULL) {\n\t\tfprintf(stderr, \"svs: gsm_create failed\\n\");\n\t\texit(4);\n\t}\n\n\toption = B_TRUE;\n\tif (gsm_option(handle, GSM_OPT_FAST, &option) < 0) {\n\t\tfprintf(stderr, \"svs: gsm_option (FAST) failed\\n\");\n\t\texit(4);\n\t}\n\n\t\/*\n\t * Initialize DES code\n\t *\/\n\tdes_random_key(&key);\n\n\tif (des_set_key(&key, ks_in) < 0) {\n\t\tfprintf(stderr, \"svs: des_set_key failed\\n\");\n\t\texit(4);\n\t}\n\tif (des_set_key(&key, ks_out) < 0) {\n\t\tfprintf(stderr, \"svs: des_set_key failed\\n\");\n\t\texit(4);\n\t}\n\tmemset(ivec_in, 0, sizeof (ivec_in));\n\tmemset(ivec_out, 0, sizeof (ivec_out));\n\n\t\/*\n\t * Open audio device and configure it\n\t *\/\n\tif (!svs_audio_init(audiofd, NULL))\n\t\texit(3);\n\n\tfor (;;) {\n\t\t\/*\n\t\t * Get 160 samples (16-bit linear 8000Hz) and\n\t\t * convert to a 33 byte frame\n\t\t *\/\n\t\tif (!svs_in(audiofd, handle, frame))\n\t\t\texit(1);\n\n\t\t\/*\n\t\t * Encrypt\/Decrypt block\n\t\t *\/\n\t\tdes_cbc_encrypt(frame, cbuf_out, (long)32, ks_in, ivec_in,\n\t\t    DES_ENCRYPT);\n\t\tdes_cbc_encrypt(cbuf_out, cbuf_buf, (long)32, ks_out, ivec_out,\n\t\t    DES_DECRYPT);\n\n\t\tmemmove(frame, cbuf_buf, 32);\n\n#if 0\n\t\tif (memcmp(cbuf_in, cbuf_buf, 32) != 0) {\n\t\t\tfprintf(stderr, \"svs: memcmp failed\\n\");\n\t\t\texit(4);\n\t\t}\n#endif\n\n\t\t\/*\n\t\t * Take 33 byte frame and convert to 160 samples\n\t\t * and play\n\t\t *\/\n\t\tif (!svs_out(audiofd, handle, frame))\n\t\t\texit(2);\n\t}","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"                                           ^^^^^^^^^^\n\nZounds!  There's a blast from the past indeed!  I'd nearly forgotten\nabout the strategic significance of strabismic in r.m lore.  It's\nreally good to see it proudly displayed again, although I'm sure\nby now that its carbs are spooge-o-rama from long disuse.\n\nGosh, I'm tingling all over!","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Claris Filemaker Pro Database Manager for sale.  Still in package.\n\n$240 or best offer.\n\nCall (415) 824 6209, ask for Larry.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nYes. It was the strangest series I have ever watched. And the ending\nfit perfectly.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nRadio-Electronics sends each company a bunch of computer-printed address\nlabels for all the people who circled that company's number.\n\nThe company sends whatever it wants to -- normally a catalog.\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nLet me salute Gary Chin for speaking the gospel which is our source\nof life.  Any who will follow his example, and accept the priorities\nChrist commands of us, that the weightier matters of the law are justice\nand mercy and good faith, is my brother or sister in Christ, and I will\nattend to such a person with humility and charity.  We may not, in the\nend, agree -- siblings often don't -- but we can at least talk.\n\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
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{"text":"\n: Very true (length of time for discussions on creationism vs evolutionism). \n: Atheists and Christians have been debating since ?? and still debate with \n: unabated passion 8-).\n\nMike,\n\nI've seen referrences to \"Creation vs Evolution\" several times in a.a\nand I have question. Is either point of view derived from direct\nobservation; can either be scientific? I wonder if the whole\ncontroversy is more concerned with the consequences of the \"Truth\"\nrather than the truth itself. \nBoth sides seem to hold to a philosophical outcome, and I can't help\nwondering which came first. As I've pointed out elsewhere, my view of\nhuman nature makes me believe that there is no way of knowing\nanyhthing objectively - all knowledge is inherently subjective. So, in\nthe context of a.a, would you take a stand based on what you actually\nknow to be true or on what you want to be true and how can you tell\nthe difference?","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"above\nRobinson's\naverage.\nthe\neasliy\nREAL stats\nwater boy!\ntons\n\n\n\n\nCheck your facts....Andre dawson's career Slugging pct is in the .480's\nSo is Winny's I would like to see your facts. Winny has probably done  \nbetter than 129 points above with a carrer SLG of 480. Check on more  \nimportant stats. DEFENSE, and HEART. BATTING AVERAGE. RBI's","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\tThis is not a good idea.. I upgraded my motherboard last fall.  I\nwould have been quite pissed at any software that would have forced me to\nreinstall simply because I changed motherboards.\n\n\tAny info in the BIOS is too volatile to use as a checksum.  Are you\ngoing to require that a user re-install all their software if they add 4Mb\nof RAM to their computer?  I did that a couple of weeks ago.  It's in the\nBIOS, and if software had told me \"this isn't the machine you installed me\non\" I would never have used that software again.  Really bad idea.\n\n\n\tThis is silly.  It's much easier to loan disks to a friend and let\nthem do an install than to backup your copy already on disk, and then give\nthem that.  Your scheme isn't going to stop anyone.\n\n\n\tDo you know any assembly language at all?  All anyone needs to do if\nfind the part of the code that does the quiz, and insert a JMP instruction\nto just completely skip it.  Not that difficult, really!  And there is very\nlittle that commpanies can do to stop this type of thing.  Using PKLITE or\nsome similar utility would help, but only if the resulting compressed .EXE\nwere tagged as uncompressable.\n\n\n\tThis is by far the best idea you presented in your post.  Making it\nplainly obvious who registered is going to stop casual pirates. But, the\ndetermined ones are just going to answer \"Joe Blow\" to the question of\n\"what's your name\" so this won't stop them in the long run.\n\n\tPirates are always going to win this fight.  They simply have more\ntime to work on the software and figure out the protection scheme.\n\n--\nSteve Madsen\nsjmadsen@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"[Description of Boeing study of two-staged spaceplane using\nsupersonic ramjets deleted.]","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nRoger, you should check your facts before posting! The Kings have \nconceded 12 goals in 2 games. ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I've got 2 foot switches for sale.  They appear to be designed\nfor studio use (ie: they're very well built) - 1\" in diameter, 6'\ncord.  I'd like $15, but I'd also like to sell them, so make me an\noffer.\n\n\tAlso I just bought a new Ibanez guitar so I need to sell one\nof my others.  It's a Kramer with passive EMG pickups (2 single, one\ndouble).  These pickups sound GREAT and are whisper-quiet.  I'd like\nto get $250 for it.\n\n-Jason","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I build two executables for the same application. \nLet's call them Papp (uses shared libs) and SPapp (statically linked).\n\nThe problem is that I get problems when trying to build the *static one*, \nbut not the dynamic one. See the trace below. \n\nBTW, the static one runs fine despite the ominous error message. \nCan someone clue me in as to why the static one bombs at link time?\n\nThanks very much,\n\nSandiway\n\n\nDr. Sandiway Fong\nNEC Research Institute Inc.\n4 Independence Way\nPrinceton NJ 08540\n\n(609) 951-2733\n(609) 951-2482 (FAX)\n\nHere is the linking stage...\n\n\/usr2\/quintus\/bin3.1.1\/sun4-4.1\/ld -e start -Bstatic Papp.o \\\n\/usr2\/quintus\/generic\/qplib3.1.1\/library\/sun4-4\/libpl.a  \\\n\/usr2\/quintus\/generic\/qplib3.1.1\/library\/sun4-4\/libplm.a  \\\n\/usr2\/quintus\/bin3.1.1\/sun4-4.1\/libqp.a \\\n-lsspkg -lXpm -lm -L\/usr\/local\/guide\/lib -lguidexv  -lxvps -lxview \\\n-lolgx -lX11 -lXext -lcps  -lc -lpixrect -o SPapp\nUndefined:\n_XESetCreateGC\n_XESetFreeFont\n_XESetCloseDisplay\n_XESetError\n_XInitExtension\n_XESetFreeGC\n_XESetCopyGC\n_XESetCreateFont\n_XESetFlushGC\n_XESetEventToWire\n_XESetErrorString\n_XESetWireToEvent\n*** Error code 1\nmake: Fatal error: Command failed for target `SPapp'\n\nldd SPapp\nSPapp: statically linked\n\nThe shared lib version is linked in exactly the same way save for the omission\nof -Bstatic.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":" I don't think that a transmission fluid change will solve your problem.\n Unless you are in an extremely cold climate and using a very heavy weight\n fluid.  Follow the manufacturer's recommended oil weight.  Some of the\n cars I have had (all standard transmissions 4 or 5 speeds) recommend\n changing the transmission fluid at 30,000 miles under normal driving\n conditions.  I've gone 100,000 without changing the transmission oil (and\n had to replace the transmission bearings!). My older cars used 85 weight\n oil whereas my 92 Honda uses 10-30 motor oil (or maybe 30 weight).\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nHow much room can 6 videotapes take up in the moving van?\nWhy not just take them with you?\n-- ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I've got an idea that would remove most of the political complaints\nI have about the Clipper chip.  Pass a law stating that if, within a\nyear of performaing a wiretap on someone, a police agency hasn't\nmanaged to convict the suspect of the crime the warrant\/wiretap was for,\nthen that agency owes the suspect $1 million to repay him\/her for\nlost privacy.\n   Of course, there are *still* problems with the technical aspects of\nClipper, and with the one-size-fits-all mentality that would be behind\nan attempt to enforce it as a standard.  But this would be a way for\nthose in favor of allowing continued wiretaps to assure us that it will\nonly be used in cases where the crime is important and the police are\nall but certain that there really will be a conviction....","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I used to be on lopid.  It did a good job of reducing cholesterol (295\ndown to around 214), as well as LDL and triglycerides.  Then, I got\npneumonia, and for some reason, the Lopid stopped working very well;\ncholesterol and triglycerides soared.  The levels might have stabilized\nover time, but a new doctor had me quit, wait a month, then switch\nto Mevicore.  \n\nOn Mevicore, my total cholesterol was down to 207,  LDL was 108, \nand HDL was 35; but the trig's were still\nvery high, around 318, and my liver tests came back slightly abnormal, \nSGOT = 83 (N = 1-35),  GGTP(?hard to read copy) = 42 (N = 0 - 35).\n\nHe said the liver numbers were not offbase enough to cause him\nconcern, and the triglycerides are not as important as the cholesterol\nfigures.  He had me stop the Mevicore to allow the liver to heal (\"Just\nto be extra cautious, though I'm sure it's not a problem.\"),\nand wants me to go back on it after that.  I suggested maybe Lopid might\nbe the better choice, and he said that he wouldn't object if that's what\nI want to do.  But Lopid has one particular side effect I'm not fond of.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nGo to hell. I'm no \"government [-] following fanatic.\" Your sweeping\ngeneralizations evince your own ignorance. What were they supposed to do?\nJust let him be? Fuck him. Fuck the ATF, too. They should've done it right\nthe first time.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"PC TOOLS 8.0\n\nall original disk & manual\nregistration card included\ndisk size 3.5\"\nprice $60 + shipping","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nI don't think we should draw borders around newsgroups, christians\nare free to read and post entries on the atheist newsgroups, and \nmuslims are free to so so in other groups as well.\n\nIt's up to each individual to define their time schedule concerning \npostings. The problems we all have noticed on various newsgroups\nis the evangelistical method of telling that 'I am right, and you are\nwrong'. This is true of both theists and atheists.\n\nHopefully a more constructive dialogue between the groups \nwould help concerning assumptions and colorization of views.\n\nCheers,\nKent","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nI recall reading a review article in PC Computing wherein they reported\na reduction in the loading time for lengthy programs using Stacker 3.0.\nThis was not due to the compression algorithm per se, but to the fact\nthat fewer fetches were required during the sequential file access. Does\nanyone have any actual performance numbers relating to speeds of Stacker\nand Dblspace?","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"        I would guess that they won't use Clipper at all.  What they will\ndo is use their STU-IIIs amoung themselves and the governmental agencies\nthey need to talk to, and ignore Clipper.  After all, if it's not secure\nenough for the agency\/department they are communicating with why should\nthe coprations trust it?\n ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\tPaul-\n\n\tYou did a wonderful job of not doing anything humany possible to \noffend us Catholics; hopefully I can be just as careful in my wording as you\nwere.\n\tI also don't want to extend this topic into an entire major issue of\ndebate (anymore than it already is), but just a note or two:\n\n\t1.  Please don't talk about Jesus' \"parents\"--the doctrinal positions\n\t\tof the church an unequivocally different regarding Mary and\n\t\tJoseph.  I (personally) have never heard of anything being\n\t\tattributed to St. Joseph other than his sainthood; that is,\n\t\tno reference *ever* to him being sinless, assumed into heaven,\n\t\timmaculately conceived, etc.--all these ideas apply only to\n\t\tMary.\n\n\t2.  I would agree there is very little scriptural evidence for our\n\t\tdoctrines about Mary.  Needless to say, that presents a \n\t\tsignificant problem to those who accept the bible as the only\n\t\tsource of doctrine.  If, however, one turns to the sacred \n\t\ttraditions of the undivided Christian Church, there is no\n\t\tproblem finding plently of evidence that it was basically a\n\t\tunanimous belief among the apostles and all the early \n\t\tgeneration that Mary was assumed into heaven, body and soul,\n\t\tetc. etc.  It wasn't until the reformation that these doctrines\n\t\twere called into question.  As far as I am concerned (again, my\n\t\tpersonaly feelings) if it's a choice between the apostles or\n\t\tLuther, I'll choose the apostles every time, whether or not\n\t\tit is recorded within the writings that the traditions of men\n\t\thave determined to be \"the bible\".","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"From article <93859@hydra.gatech.EDU>, by gs26@prism.gatech.EDU (Glenn R. Stone):\n\nI second that motion wholeheartedly.  Also, how about s**tcanning the\ncigarette cops (a.k.a. as the ATF).  Comments anyone?\n\n\n\nScott Kennedy,  Brewer and Patriot","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"My friend has a Macintosh IIfx on which he is running System 6.0.7 (not enough\nmemory yet to run Sys7 adequately), and he noticed that when he tries to use\nMultifinder on this machine, the machine will beep every few seconds\nincessantly, nonstop.\n\nNow, this friend has a tendency to \"install\" things on his machine rather\nhaphazardly, but he *did* rebuild his System from scratch and it still occurs. \nDoes this problem sound familiar at all to anyone?  For all I know the problem\nis caused by something really obscure but if this is a known simple thing\n(yeah, right...) that someone is familiar with (like \"System 6.0.7 Multifinder\ndoesn't run on a Mac IIfx\"), or if someone here knows what he should be looking\nfor, please send e-mail either to me or to him (smh@vaxf.acdnj.itt.com).\nThanx in advance.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI'm 99&44\/100% positive that uwm isn't ICCCM compliant.  If you want it,\nthe R4 sources are still available on export.lcs.mit.edu (18.24.0.12)\nin \/pub\/R4.\n\n--","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Recently I've come upon a body of literature which promotes colon\ncleansing as a vital aid to preventive medicine through nutrition.  In\nparticular, Dr. Bernard Jenssen in his book \"Colon Cleansing for\nHealth and Longevity\" -- the title actually escapes me, but it is very\nsimilar to that -- claims that regular self-administered colonics,\nalong with certain orally ingested \"debris-loosening agents\", boosts\nthe immune system to a significant degree.\n\nHe also plugs a unique appliance called the \"Colema Board\", which\nfacilitates the self-administration of colonics.  It sells for over\n$100 from a California-based company.  He also plugs Vitra-Tox\nproducts as his chemical agents of choice: these include volcanic ash,\nsupposedly for its electrical charge, and psyllium powder, for its\nbulkiness.\n\nIf anyone knows anything about colon cleansing theory, its\nparticulars, or the Colema Board and related products, I'd be very\ninterested to hear about research and personal experience.\n\nThis article is crossposted to alt.magick as the issue touches upon\nfasting and cleansing through a \"ritual\" system of purification.\n\n-- Eli\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nNo. All that I've seen have also an on-board BIOS which enables you to\nuse up to 2 hard drives directly under DOS (2 drives is a DOS\nlimitation and you have the same problem with IDE and all other\nstandards for that matter). Software drivers often allow for better\nperformance, though. You have to use them if you want to use other\ndevices besides hard disks or have more than 2 disks.\n\n\nObviously these are not able to use the 16-bit real mode BIOSes that\nare written for DOS, so you need software drivers. That's not a big\ndeal (as long as the drivers are available), because you won't have to\nfight with any low memory problems either.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nOboy, this is exciting. First you discuss your non-existent literature\ntastes, then your fantasies, and now your choices of historical revisionism.\nAre you related to 'Arromdians' of the ASALA\/SDPA\/ARF Terrorism and\nRevisionism Triangle?\n\nThe Agreement on the Exchange of Minorities uses the term 'Turks,' \nwhich demonstrates what is actually meant by the previous reference \nto 'Muslims.' The fact that the Greek governments also mention the \nexistence of a few thousand non-Turkish Muslims does not change the \nessential reality that there lives in Western Thrace a much bigger \nTurkish minority. The 'Pomaks' are also a Muslim people, whom all the \nthree nations (Bulgarians, Turks, and Greeks) consider as part of \nthemselves. Do you know how the Muslim Turkish minority was organized \naccording to the agreements? \n\nIt also proves that the Turkish people are trapped in Greece \nand the Greek people are free to settle anywhere in the world.\nThe Greek authorities deny even the existence of a Turkish\nminority. They pursue the same denial in connection with \nthe Macedonians of Greece. Talk about oppression. In addition,\nin 1980 the 'democratic' Greek Parliament passed Law No. 1091,\nvirtually taking over the administration of the vakiflar and\nother charitable trusts. They have ceased to be self-supporting\nreligious and cultural entities. Talk about fascism. The Greek \ngovernments are attempting to appoint the muftus, irrespective\nof the will of the Turkish minority, as state official. Although\nthe Orthodox Church has full authority in similar matters in\nGreece, the Muslim Turkish minority will have no say in electing\nits religious leaders. Talk about democracy.\n\nThe government of Greece has recently destroyed an Islamic \nconvention in Komotini. Such destruction, which reflects an \nattitude against the Muslim Turkish cultural heritage, is a \nviolation of the Lausanne Convention as well as the 'so-called' \nGreek Constitution, which is supposed to guarantee the protection \nof historical monuments. \n\nThe government of Greece, on the other hand, is building new \nchurches in remote villages as a complementary step toward \nHellenizing the region.\n\nThe longstanding use of the adjective 'Turkish' in titles\nand on signboards is prohibited. The Greek courts have\nordered the closure of the Turkish Teachers' Association, \nthe Komotini Turkish Youth Association and the Ksanti \nTurkish Association on grounds that there are no Turks\nin Western Thrace. Such community associations had been \nactive until 1984. But they were first told to remove\nthe word 'Turkish' on their buildings and on their official\npapers and then eventually close down. This is also the \nfinal verdict (November 4, 1987) of the Greek High Court.\n\nHelsinki Watch, a well-known Human Rights group, had been investigating \nthe plight of the Turkish Minority in Greece. In August 1990, their \nfindings were published in a report titled \n\n 'Destroying Ethnic Identity: Turks of Greece.'\n\nThe report confirmed gross violations of the Human Rights of the \nTurkish minority by the Greek authorities. It says for instance, \nthe Greek government recently destroyed an Islamic convent in \nKomotini. Such destruction, which reflects an attitude against \nthe Muslim Turkish cultural heritage, is a violation of the \nLausanne Convention. \n\n\nHELSINKI WATCH: \"PROBLEMS OF TURKS IN WESTERN THRACE CONTINUE\"\n\nAnkara (A.A)  In a 15-page report  of the \"Helsinki Watch\"  it is\nstated that the Turkish minority in Western Thrace is still faced\nwith problems and stipulated that the discriminatory policy being\nimplemented by the Greek Government be brought to an end.\n\nThe report on Western Thrace emphasized that the Greek government\nshould grant  social and political  rights to all the  members of\nminorities that are equal to  those enjoyed by Greek citizens and\nin addition  they must  recognize the  existence of  the \"Turkish\nMinority\" in Western Thrace and  grant them the right to identify\nthemselves as 'Turks'.\n\nNEWSPOT, May 1992\n\n\nGREECE ISOLATES WEST THRACE TURKS\n\nThe  Xanthi independent  MP Ahmet  Faikoglu said  that the  Greek\nstate is trying to cut all  contacts and relations of the Turkish\nminority with Turkey.\n\nPointing out that while the  Greek minority living in Istanbul is\ncalled \"Greek\"  by ethnic  definition, only  the religion  of the\nminority in  Western Thrace is  considered. In an  interview with\nTurkish origin. The individuals of the minority living in Western\nTrace are also Turkish.\"\n\nEmphasizing  the education  problem for  the Turkish  minority in\nWestern  Thrace  Faikoglu said  that  according  to an  agreement\nsigned in 1951 Greece must distribute textbooks printed in Turkey\nin Turkish minority schools in Western Thrace.\n\nRecalling his activities and those of Komotini independent MP Dr.\nSadIk  Ahmet  to  defend  the rights  of  the  Turkish  minority,\nFaikoglu said.  \"In fact we  helped Greece. Because  we prevented\nGreece, the cradle of democracy, from losing face before European\ncountries by forcing the Greek  government to recognize our legal\nrights.\"\n\nOn Turco-Greek relations, he pointed  out that both countries are\npredestined  to live  in  peace for  geographical and  historical\nreasons and said  that Turkey and Greece must  resist the foreign\npowers  who  are  trying  to   create  a  rift  between  them  by\ncooperating, adding  that in  Turkey he  observed that  there was\nwill to improve relations with Greece.\n\nNEWSPOT, January 1993\n\n\nMACEDONIAN HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVISTS TO FACE TRIAL IN GREECE.\n\nTwo ethnic Macedonian  human rights activists will  face trial in\nAthens for alleged crimes against the Greek state, according to a\nCourt Summons (No. 5445) obtained by MILS.\n\n  Hristos  Sideropoulos and  Tashko Bulev  (or Anastasios  Bulis)\nhave been charged under Greek criminal law for making comments in\nan Athenian magazine.\n\n  Sideropoulos and  Bulev gave an  interview to the  Greek weekly\nmagazine  \"ENA\"  on  March  11,  1992,  and  said  that  they  as\nMacedonians were  denied basic human  rights in Greece  and would\nfield  an ethnic  Macedonian  candidate for  the up-coming  Greek\ngeneral election.\n\n  Bulev said in the interview: \"I am not Greek, I am Macedonian.\"\nSideropoulos said  in the  article that \"Greece  should recognise\nMacedonia.  The  allegations  regarding  territorial  aspirations\nagainst  Greece are  tales... We  are in  a panic  to secure  the\nborder, at  a time when the  borders and barriers within  the EEC\nare falling.\"\n\n  The  main  charge  against  the two,  according  to  the  court\nsummons,  was   that  \"they  have   spread...intentionally  false\ninformation  which  might  create   unrest  and  fear  among  the\ncitizens,  and  might affect  the  public  security or  harm  the\ninternational interests of the country (Greece).\"\n\n  The  Greek  state  does  not   recognise  the  existence  of  a\nMacedonian ethnicity. There are believed to be between 350,000 to\n1,000,000  ethnic  Macedonians   living  within  Greece,  largely\nconcentrated in the north. It is  a crime against the Greek state\nif anyone declares themselves Macedonian.\n\n  In  1913  Greece,   Serbia-Yugoslavia  and  Bulgaria  partioned\nMacedonia into three  pieces. In 1919 Albania  took 50 Macedonian\nvillages. The part under  Serbo-Yugoslav occupation broke away in\n1991  as the  independent Republic  of Macedonia.  There are  1.5\nmillion Macedonians in the Republic; 500,000 in Bulgaria; 150,000\nin Albania; and 300,000 in Serbia proper.\n\n  Sideropoulos  has been  a long  time campaigner  for Macedonian\nhuman rights in  Greece, and lost his job as  a forestry worker a\nfew years ago.  He was even exiled to an  obscure Greek island in\nthe mediteranean. Only pressure from Amnesty International forced\nthe Greek government  to allow him to return to  his home town of\nFlorina (Lerin) in Northern  Greece (Aegean Macedonia), where the\nmajority of ethnic Macedonians live.\n\n  Balkan watchers see the Sideropoulos  affair as a show trial in\nwhich  Greece is  desperate to  clamp down  on internal  dissent,\nespecially  when it  comes to  the issue  of recognition  for its\nnorthern neighbour, the Republic of Macedonia.\n\n  Last year the  State Department of the  United States condemned\nGreece for its bad treatment of ethnic Macedonians and Turks (who\nlargely live in Western Thrace). But it remains to be seen if the\nUS government  will do anything until  the Presidential elections\nare over.\n\n================================================================\n                M. I. L. S.\n================================================================\n91, Rue  du Craetveld -  Kraatveldstraat 91 Orce Nikolov  28 1120\nBRUSSELS,  Belgium SKOPJE,  Macedonia  tel\/fax:  +32\/2\/268 18  48\ntel\/fax:+38   91  201   566   modem:  +32\/2\/262   28  97   n.acc:\nFamibank-Citibank Belgium 954 8691431 92\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":": I heard on the radio today about a Christian student conference where\n: Christians were called to \"repent\" of America's \"national\" sins, such\n: as sexual promiscuity.\n: \n: To which I reply: ...whoa there!\n: \n: How can I repent of _someone else's_ sin?   I can't.\n: \n: And when I claim to \"repent\" of someone else's sin, am I not in fact\n: _judging_ him?  Jesus equipped us to judge activities but warned us\n: not to judge people. \"Judge not that ye be not judged.\"\n: \n: C. S. Lewis made the same point in an essay after World War II,\n: when some Christian leaders in Britain were urging \"national repentance\"\n: for the horrors (sins???) of World War II.\n: -- \n\nI see your point, but I cannot more strongly disagree.\n\nTo repent means to turn around.  We, as a nation, have behaved incredibly\narrogantly toward God condoning, encouraging, and even forcing folks to\nparticipate in activity directly opposed to the written Word of God.  We\nhave arrogantly set our nation far above the God who created it and allowed\nus the luxury of living in this land.  We have set a bad example for other\nnations.  We've slaughtered unborn children by the millions.  We have\nstricken the name of God from the classroom.  We've cheated God out of the\nhonor due Him at every turn, and we owe God an apology every bit as public\nas our sins have been.\n\nWhen Jesus said \"Judge not that ye be not judged\", he was not addressing\nthose like John the Baptist who had repented and were calling others to\nrepent.  He was addressing those who remained in sin while heaping down\ncondemnation on others for their sins.  His message to us all was to remove\nthe log from our own eye before removing the speck from our brother's.  But\nHe also said to rebuke and to reprove.  Don't forget that this is a command\ntoo.\n\nOur problem today is that we tend to judge and condemn as though we were\nrebuking and we tend to neglect bringing folks back to the Lord with the\nexcuse that we don't want to judge anyone.\n\nIn truth, what we need to do is to judge less and call others to repent more\nand to be able to distinguish between the two in our own motives.  Call sin\nwhat it is and do so openly.  Let it's charge fall correctly where it should.\nBut instead of running someone into hell over it, pull them out of their\nhellward path and onto the heavenward path.\n\n--\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------\n\t\"I deplore the horrible crime of child murder...\n\t We want prevention, not merely punishment.\n\t We must reach the root of the evil...\n\t It is practiced by those whose inmost souls revolt\n\t from the dreadful deed...\n\t No mater what the motive, love of ease,\n\t\tor a desire to save from suffering the unborn innocent,\n\t\tthe woman is awfully guilty who commits the deed...\n\t but oh! thrice guilty is he who drove her\n\t\tto the desperation which impelled her to the crime.\"","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Given that all the source code contains explicit permission to use or\nmodify the code without fee in addition to the shareware notice, I would\nsay that the shareware notice is unenforceable.  All you need to do is\nmake minor changes to create a derivative work which is explicitly allowed\nunder the first part of the copyright notice.  Of course, this would be\ncircumventing the author's wishes on the subject, but I'd say if you're\nnot going to pay him no matter what, you'd be on relatively safe ground\nwith that approach...  In fact, given the internal contradictions of the\ncopyright notices, I'd guess none of it could ever be enforced, but not being\na lawyer, I can't be positive.\n\nRegardless, the fees he's asking are not excessive, and I would encourage\nanyone who wants to use the program to pay them if at all possible.  Even\nthough it is unlikely that you have actual legal obligations to pay the\nauthor, it would be reasonable to do so, to support his efforts if nothing\nelse.\n\n- Brad\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\tTypical (in the old 2x-oversampling units) was a thirteen-tap\nFIR, implemented as a dedicated hardware addition circuit.  At this kind\nof speed (slow, by digital standards) such an adder is much less\nexpensive than analog components of comparable precision.\n\n\tI gleaned this information from a hardware manual for\nan old CD player design; where one would find similar info for\na particular CD (the digital filter IS an interesting component,\nfrom my point of view), I have no idea.  The digital filter\nis a kind of interpolation scheme (read a book on numerical \nanalysis, to see just how BROAD the term 'interpolation' is...),\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nSaw it in t.p.m., thanks.\n\n\n\n\nYes, and the individual is not omitted; I just didn't fully articulate the \nprinciples of Fractal Federalism.  All government powers derive from the\nPeople; each level can receive a new power from the level below through \nthe amendment process, where a true consensus (say a 3\/4 majority) writes \nthat power into the Constitution of the level above (in the case of the \nlowest level, an amendement is passed by a 3\/4 majority vote; in the case \nof higher levels, it must be passed by 3\/4 of the legislatures.  We can\nof course haggle about the specifics of \"true consensus\" when we hold our \nConstitutional Convention :-).  Once a power has been granted, it may be \nexercised by the legislature.  Powers not in the original Constitutions must \npercolate upward, starting from the individual.  The ratification process \nfor the original Constitutions should involve consensus and not simply a \nplurality or majority.\n\nGranting a \"right\" in a constitution is of course the same as empowering\nthe government at that level to restrict the activities of the governments\nat the lower levels, so it operates in the same way as the amendment process \n(again, that crazy resemblance to the supposed-but-not-actual U.S. government \nstructure).\n\nThis government structure is a very frustrating one for those people (read-\n\"liberals\") who would like to have concentrated power to use the government\nto force people to do \"good\" (a difficult-to-define word, and one that it \nis difficult to reach a consensus on).  It is also a frustrating structure \nfor those who want to use the government to dictate personal behavior (read- \n\"big-government conservatives\").  I personally would rather see those types\nof people frustrated than the incredible erosion of liberty (both civil and \neconomic) that is going on now.\n\nThis is IMHO a \"good\" government stucture for those who see the role of\ngovernment as the protection of individual liberties, while still recognizing\nthat individuals need to have some influence in the type of community that\nthey live in.\n\n\n\n\nOne which maintains peace, liberty, and the opportunity for happiness for its\npeople, while working within the realities of human nature.  You do bring\nup the point (intentional or not) that a \"lasting\" idea is by no means\nnecessarily a \"successful\" idea.  I believe that Fractal Federalism would\nat least bring many ideas to light, and The People would have the opportunity\nto democratically choose between \"good\" ideas and \"bad\" ideas.  If the\nDocialists, er, I mean Democrats are right and government activism fosters a\nprosperous People, they will have a plethora of local opportunities to  \ncheck their thesis.  If Libertopia is possible, it will arise.  If a balanced\nConservative Republic is democratically received as the best level of\ngovernment activity, it will become clear to The People that it is best.\n\n\n\n\n\nRight, and people would not rescind any freedoms (read- \"empower the\ngovernment\") except through the amendment process.  That is how the Federal \nGovernment is supposed to work now, but the Supreme Soviet, er, I mean the \nSupreme Court put a stop to that \"republican government\" nonsense.\n\nIn my hypothetical government, if there were a constitutional provision\nempowering the government to regulate churches the government (whatever\nlevel we are talking about) could indeed ban churches.  The constitutional\nprovision would be invalid if a higher level had a constitutional provision\nprotecting free exercise of religion.  The uppermost Constitution is still\nthe Supreme Law of the Land.\n\n\n\n\nIt is a matter of individuals being able to control their own associations\nand environment, not a matter of suppression of ideas.\n\nOne dilemma of the human condition is that individuals need liberty, and\nthey also need to have some control over their environment.  In my\n\"Fractal Federalism\" government, certain \"rights\" are protected by the \nconstitutions.  Other \"rights\" are protected simply because the government \nhas not been empowered to infringe upon them.  When a consensus is reached\nthat the government should have a certain power, then freedom is infringed\nupon.  This cannot be avoided -- murder statutes infringe upon freedom,\nbut I think that the consensus of the American people is that murder statutes\nare a good idea.\n\nI am sure that many parents believe that they have a \"right\" to control\nthe environment that their children live in.  People feel that they have\na \"right\" to sleep peacefully at night; thus, there are noise ordinances.\nThere are zoning laws that keep businesses from overrunning residential\nneighborhoods.  I do not view these as bad things (certainly some individual\ninstances are bad, but the concept is not necessarily bad), I view them\nas the people in a community having some control over the type of community\nthat they live in.  I see the alternative as near anarchy.\n\nLike I said in another post, if you can come up with a scenario where an \nindividual can do something truly autonomously -- with absolutely zero\neffect on anyone else -- then no individual or government has the right\nto restrict that activity.  There are simply not very many behaviors that\nfit into the category of the truly autonomous, so the whole thing becomes\nan issue of one individual or group having power over another individual\nor group.  I think that the \"Fractal Federalism\" approach is a sound, if\nnot ideal, approach to limiting this restrictive power.  The libertarian \nscenario degenerates to \"might makes right,\" and the system we have right\nnow is one of \"lawyers abusing natural rights philosophy to decide what \npowers the government should have by subverting the democratic process \nthough the Supreme Court.\"\n\n\n\n\n\nI think I answered this above already, but let me expand a little more\nwith an example.  If I stand naked in front of your house and masturbate \nin front of your children while they play, in your libertarian (small 'l')\nscenario the only recourse you have is to yell at me.  \"Autonomous\" is\na value judgement 99.99% of the time, it is not a scientific reality with\na clear definition.  Exactly who would you empower to make that value\njudgement?\n\n\n\n\n\n\nLots of people are long on complaints and short on practical solutions.\nAlthough I am pessimistic that my idea will ever bear fruit, I am at least\ntrying to be long on solutions also.  I am truly interested if you have\nany improvements to make on my ideas (I call them \"my ideas\", but they\nall come from an \"average guy\" reading of the U.S. Constitution without\nbenefit of the indoctrination of Constitutional Law academia).\n\n\n\n\nSorry, the confusion was my fault.  When I said that \"Fractal Federalism\" \nresembles the U.S. constitution, I meant it and thought it was pretty clear.  \nI should have more clearly explained that the ultimate derivation of government\npower is from the CONSENSUS of the people (although not the CONSENT of every\nindividual; a practical observation, not a moral judgement).  It is certainly \nbetter than having all government power derive from nine lawyers, which is the\nsituation we have now.  That is why I think the Supreme Court should be\na jury court, with a different jury for each case.  \n\nIt is certainly not perfect (no philosophy of government is), but do you still \nfind it a repugnant idea?  If so, what is your solution?\n\n\n\n\n\nI think that you misunderstood the structure of the form of government I\nadvocate, and it was my fault for not being more clear.\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThe majority does not make the rules.  The majority (or possibly a \nplurality) simply elects representatives to exercise limited government \npowers; those limited government powers derive from a large consensus, \nnot a simple majority.  And the Federal Government, in my scenario, still\nhas the power to protect freedoms.\n\n\n\n\n\n\nMatt Freivald\n\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\nLiBORGalism:\n             THINKING IS IRRELEVANT. INTEGRITY IS IRRELEVANT.\n          FREE SPEECH IS IRRELEVANT. PRIVATE PROPERTY IS IRRELEVANT.\n                 PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY IS IRRELEVANT.\n                     CONSERVATIVISM IS FUTILE.\n                      YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED.\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTHESE ARE MY OPINIONS ONLY AND NOT THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Does anyone know what the differences are between the Stylewriter\nand the Stylewriter II?\n\nPlease respond via e-mail to:\n\n\tl.d.sanders@larc.nasa.gov\n\nThanks.\n\n\n--  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --\n\nLyle D. Sanders                                      L.D.Sanders@LaRC.NASA.GOV\nUNISYS Government Systems Inc.                                  (128.155.4.44)\nMail Stop 157-B                                      (804) 864-7470 VOICE\nNASA Langley Research Center                         (804) 864-7604 FAX\nHampton, VA 23681-0001\n______________________________________________________________________________","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n     I think it's known, but it's neat.\n\n     Can it be extended to 3D?","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Does anyone know where I can get some voice synthesis chips??\nI am looking for something like the ones that do the time and date\nstamp on answering machines.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":": >Prove it. I have a source that says that to date, the civilian death count\n: >(er, excuse me, I mean \"collateral damage\") is about 200,000.\n: \n: I have _never_ seen any source that was claiming such a figure.  Please\n: post the source so its reliability can be judged.  \n\nThis figure would not simply be deaths by bombing, but also death later\nfrom disease (the sewer system of Baghdad was deliberately targeted) and\nstarvation. I believe (but when I get a copy of the latest research in\nJune or July) that this was the figure proposed in the Census Bureau \nreport on the matter. The report was suppressed and the CB attempted to\nsack the author of the report, but failed due to procedural technicality.\nThe author is now on permanent leave. ","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----\n\nPlease note that the following speech was made by Chuck Hammill\nin 1987.  Address all letters to his address, given at the end\nof this document.\n     -- Russell\n\n  FROM CROSSBOWS TO CRYPTOGRAPHY:  THWARTING THE STATE VIA\n                     TECHNOLOGY\n\n  Given at the Future of Freedom Conference, November 1987\n\n\n     You   know,   technology--and   particularly   computer\ntechnology--has often gotten a bad rap in  Libertarian  cir-\ncles.  We tend to think of Orwell's 1984, or Terry Gilliam's\nBrazil,  or  the  proximity  detectors keeping East Berlin's\nslave\/citizens on their own side of the border, or  the  so-\nphisticated  bugging  devices  Nixon used to harass those on\nhis \"enemies list.\"  Or, we recognize that for the price  of\na  ticket  on  the Concorde we can fly at twice the speed of\nsound, but only if we first walk thru a magnetometer run  by\na  government  policeman, and permit him to paw thru our be-\nlongings if it beeps.\n\n     But I think that mind-set is a mistake.   Before  there\nwere cattle prods, governments tortured their prisoners with\nclubs  and  rubber  hoses.    Before  there  were lasers for\neavesdropping, governments used binoculars and  lip-readers.\nThough  government certainly uses technology to oppress, the\nevil lies not in the tools but in the wielder of the tools.\n\n     In fact, technology represents one of the most  promis-\ning  avenues  available  for  re-capturing our freedoms from\nthose who have stolen them.  By its very nature,  it  favors\nthe  bright  (who can put it to use) over the dull (who can-\nnot).  It favors the adaptable (who are  quick  to  see  the\nmerit  of  the  new  (over  the sluggish (who cling to time-\ntested ways).  And what two better words are  there  to  de-\nscribe government bureaucracy than \"dull\" and \"sluggish\"?\n\n     One  of  the  clearest,  classic triumphs of technology\nover tyranny I see is  the  invention  of  the  man-portable\ncrossbow.   With it, an untrained peasant could now reliably\nand lethally engage a target out to  fifty  meters--even  if\nthat  target  were  a mounted, chain-mailed knight.  (Unlike\nthe longbow, which, admittedly was more powerful, and  could\nget  off  more shots per unit time, the crossbow required no\nformal training to utilize.   Whereas the  longbow  required\nelaborate  visual,  tactile  and kinesthetic coordination to\nachieve any degree of accuracy, the wielder  of  a  crossbow\ncould simply put the weapon to his shoulder, sight along the\narrow  itself, and be reasonably assured of hitting his tar-\nget.)\n\n     Moreover, since just about  the  only  mounted  knights\nlikely  to  visit  your  average peasant would be government\nsoldiers and tax collectors, the utility of the  device  was\nplain:    With it, the common rabble could defend themselves\nnot only against one another, but against their governmental\nmasters.   It was the  medieval  equivalent  of  the  armor-\npiercing  bullet,  and, consequently, kings and priests (the\nmedieval equivalent of a  Bureau  of  Alcohol,  Tobacco  and\nCrossbows)  threatened  death  and  excommunication, respec-\ntively, for its unlawful possession.\n\n     Looking at later developments, we  see  how  technology\nlike  the  firearm--particularly the repeating rifle and the\nhandgun, later followed by the Gatling gun and more advanced\nmachine guns--radically altered the balance of interpersonal\nand inter-group power.  Not without reason was the Colt  .45\ncalled \"the equalizer.\"  A frail dance-hall hostess with one\nin  her  possession  was  now  fully able to protect herself\nagainst the brawniest roughneck in any saloon.    Advertise-\nments  for  the period also reflect the merchandising of the\nrepeating cartridge  rifle  by  declaring  that  \"a  man  on\nhorseback,  armed with one of these rifles, simply cannot be\ncaptured.\"  And, as long as his captors  were  relying  upon\nflintlocks  or  single-shot rifles, the quote is doubtless a\ntrue one.\n\n     Updating now to  the  present,  the  public-key  cipher\n(with  a  personal  computer to run it) represents an equiv-\nalent quantum leap--in a defensive weapon.    Not  only  can\nsuch  a technique be used to protect sensitive data in one's\nown possession, but it can also permit two strangers to  ex-\nchange   information   over   an   insecure   communications\nchannel--a  wiretapped   phone   line,   for   example,   or\nskywriting, for that matter)--without ever having previously\nmet  to  exchange cipher keys.   With a thousand-dollar com-\nputer, you can create a cipher that  a  multi-megabuck  CRAY\nX-MP  can't  crack in a year.  Within a few years, it should\nbe economically feasible to similarly encrypt voice communi-\ncations; soon after that, full-color digitized video images.\nTechnology will not only have made wiretapping obsolete,  it\nwill  have  totally demolished government's control over in-\nformation transfer.\n\n     I'd like to take just a moment to sketch the  mathemat-\nics  which makes this principle possible.  This algorithm is\ncalled the RSA algorithm, after Rivest, Shamir, and  Adleman\nwho  jointly created it.  Its security derives from the fact\nthat, if a very large number is  the  product  of  two  very\nlarge  primes,  then it is extremely difficult to obtain the\ntwo prime factors from analysis  of  their  product.    \"Ex-\ntremely\"  in  the  sense that if primes  p  and  q  have 100\ndigits apiece, then their 200-digit product cannot  in  gen-\neral be factored in less than 100 years by the most powerful\ncomputer now in existence.\n\n     The  \"public\" part of the key consists of (1) the prod-\nuct  pq  of the two large primes p and q, and (2)  one  fac-\ntor,  call it  x  , of the product  xy  where  xy = {(p-1) *\n(q-1) + 1}.  The \"private\" part of the key consists  of  the\nother factor  y.\n\n     Each  block of the text to be encrypted is first turned\ninto an integer--either by using ASCII,  or  even  a  simple\nA=01,  B=02,  C=03, ... , Z=26 representation.  This integer\nis then raised to the power  x (modulo pq) and the resulting\ninteger is then sent as the encrypted message.  The receiver\ndecrypts by taking this integer to the  (secret)  power    y\n(modulo  pq).  It can be shown that this process will always\nyield the original number started with.\n\n     What makes this a groundbreaking development,  and  why\nit  is  called  \"public-key\"  cryptography,\"  is  that I can\nopenly publish the product  pq and the number   x   ,  while\nkeeping  secret  the number  y  --so that anyone can send me\nan encrypted message, namely\n                       x\n                     a    (mod pq)  ,\nbut only I can recover the original message  a  , by  taking\nwhat  they  send, raising it to the power  y  and taking the\nresult (mod pq).  The risky step (meeting to exchange cipher\nkeys) has been eliminated.  So people who may not even trust\neach other enough to want to meet, may  still  reliably  ex-\nchange  encrypted  messages--each  party having selected and\ndisseminated his own  pq  and his  x  ,   while  maintaining\nthe secrecy of his own  y.\n\n     Another benefit of this scheme is the notion of a \"dig-\nital signature,\" to enable one to authenticate the source of\na given message.  Normally, if I want to send you a message,\nI raise my plaintext  a  to your x and take the result  (mod\nyour pq)  and send that.\n\n    However,  if in my message, I take the plaintext  a and\nraise it to my (secret) power  y  , take the result  (mod my\npq), then raise that result to your x   (mod  your  pq)  and\nsend this, then even after you have normally \"decrypted\" the\nmessage,  it  will still look like garbage.  However, if you\nthen raise it to my public power x   , and take  the  result\n(mod  my public pq  ), so you will not only recover the ori-\nginal plaintext message, but you will know that no one but I\ncould have sent it to you (since no one else knows my secret\ny).\n\n     And these are the very concerns by the way that are to-\nday tormenting the Soviet Union about the whole question  of\npersonal  computers.    On the one hand, they recognize that\nAmerican schoolchildren are right now growing up  with  com-\nputers  as commonplace as sliderules used to be--more so, in\nfact, because there are things computers can do  which  will\ninterest  (and instruct) 3- and 4-year-olds.  And it is pre-\ncisely these students who one generation hence will be going\nhead-to-head against their Soviet  counterparts.    For  the\nSoviets  to  hold  back might be a suicidal as continuing to\nteach swordsmanship  while  your  adversaries  are  learning\nballistics.    On  the  other hand, whatever else a personal\ncomputer may be, it is also an exquisitely efficient copying\nmachine--a floppy disk will hold upwards of 50,000 words  of\ntext,  and  can  be  copied in a couple of minutes.  If this\nweren't threatening enough, the computer that  performs  the\ncopy  can also encrypt the data in a fashion that is all but\nunbreakable.  Remember that in Soviet society  publicly  ac-\ncessible  Xerox  machines are unknown.   (The relatively few\ncopying machines in existence  are  controlled  more  inten-\nsively than machine guns are in the United States.)\n\n     Now  the  \"conservative\" position is that we should not\nsell these computers to the Soviets, because they could  use\nthem  in weapons systems.  The \"liberal\" position is that we\nshould sell them, in  the  interests  of  mutual  trade  and\ncooperation--and  anyway,  if  we don't make the sale, there\nwill certainly be some other nation willing to.\n\n     For my part, I'm ready to suggest that the  Libertarian\nposition should be to give them to the Soviets for free, and\nif  necessary, make them take them . . . and if that doesn't\nwork load up an SR-71  Blackbird  and  air  drop  them  over\nMoscow in the middle of the night.  Paid for by private sub-\nscription, of course, not taxation . . . I confess that this\nis not a position that has gained much support among members\nof  the conventional left-right political spectrum, but, af-\nter all, in the words of one of Illuminatus's characters, we\nare political non-Euclideans:   The shortest distance  to  a\nparticular  goal may not look anything like what most people\nwould consider a \"straight line.\"    Taking  a  long  enough\nworld-view,  it is arguable that breaking the Soviet govern-\nment monopoly on information transfer could better  lead  to\nthe enfeeblement and, indeed, to the ultimate dissolution of\nthe Soviet empire than would the production of another dozen\nmissiles aimed at Moscow.\n\n     But  there's  the rub:  A \"long enough\" world view does\nsuggest that the evil, the oppressive, the coercive and  the\nsimply  stupid  will \"get what they deserve,\" but what's not\nimmediately clear is how the rest of  us  can  escape  being\nkilled, enslaved, or pauperized in the process.\n\n    When  the  liberals and other collectivists began to at-\ntack freedom, they possessed a reasonably  stable,  healthy,\nfunctioning economy, and almost unlimited time to proceed to\nhamstring   and   dismantle  it.    A  policy  of  political\ngradualism was at least  conceivable.    But  now,  we  have\npatchwork  crazy-quilt  economy held together by baling wire\nand spit.  The state not only taxes us to  \"feed  the  poor\"\nwhile also inducing farmers to slaughter milk cows and drive\nup food prices--it then simultaneously turns around and sub-\nsidizes research into agricultural chemicals designed to in-\ncrease  yields of milk from the cows left alive.  Or witness\nthe fact that a decline in the price of oil is considered as\npotentially frightening as a comparable increase a few years\nago.  When the price went up,  we  were  told,  the  economy\nrisked  collapse for for want of energy.  The price increase\nwas called the \"moral equivalent of war\" and the Feds  swung\ninto  action.    For the first time in American history, the\nspeed at which you drive your car to work in the morning be-\ncame an issue of Federal concern.   Now, when the  price  of\noil  drops, again we risk problems, this time because Ameri-\ncan oil companies and Third World  basket-case  nations  who\nsell  oil  may  not  be  able to ever pay their debts to our\ngrossly over-extended banks.  The suggested panacea is  that\ngovernment  should now re-raise the oil prices that OPEC has\nlowered, via a new oil tax.  Since the government is seeking\nto raise oil prices to about the same extent  as  OPEC  did,\nwhat  can we call this except the \"moral equivalent of civil\nwar--the government against its own people?\"\n\n     And, classically, in international trade, can you imag-\nine any entity in the world except  a  government  going  to\ncourt  claiming  that  a  vendor  was  selling  it goods too\ncheaply and demanding not only that that naughty  vendor  be\ncompelled by the court to raise its prices, but also that it\nbe punished for the act of lowering them in the first place?\n\n     So  while the statists could afford to take a couple of\nhundred years to trash our  economy  and  our  liberties--we\ncertainly  cannot  count  on  having an equivalent period of\nstability in which to reclaim them.   I contend  that  there\nexists  almost  a  \"black  hole\"  effect in the evolution of\nnation-states just as in the evolution of stars.  Once free-\ndom contracts beyond a certain  minimum  extent,  the  state\nwarps  the fabric of the political continuum about itself to\nthe degree that subsequent re-emergence of  freedom  becomes\nall but impossible.  A good illustration of this can be seen\nin the area of so-called \"welfare\" payments.  When those who\nsup  at the public trough outnumber (and thus outvote) those\nwhose taxes must replenish the trough,  then  what  possible\nchoice has a democracy but to perpetuate and expand the tak-\ning  from  the few for the unearned benefit of the many?  Go\ndown to the nearest \"welfare\" office, find just  two  people\non  the dole . . . and recognize that between them they form\na voting bloc that can forever outvote you on  the  question\nof who owns your life--and the fruits of your life's labor.\n\n     So essentially those who love liberty need an \"edge\" of\nsome  sort  if  we're ultimately going to prevail.  We obvi-\nously  can't  use  the  altruists'  \"other-directedness\"  of\n\"work,  slave, suffer, sacrifice, so that next generation of\na billion random strangers can  live  in  a  better  world.\"\nRecognize  that, however immoral such an appeal might be, it\nis nonetheless an extremely powerful one in today's culture.\nIf you can convince  people  to  work  energetically  for  a\n\"cause,\" caring only enough for their personal welfare so as\nto  remain  alive  enough  and  healthy  enough  to continue\nworking--then you have a truly massive reservoir  of  energy\nto draw from.  Equally clearly, this is just the sort of ap-\npeal which tautologically cannot be utilized for egoistic or\nlibertarian goals.  If I were to stand up before you tonight\nand say something like, \"Listen, follow me as I enunciate my\nnoble \"cause,\" contribute your money to support the \"cause,\"\ngive  up  your  free  time  to  work for the \"cause,\" strive\nselflessly to bring it about, and then (after you  and  your\nchildren are dead) maybe your children's children will actu-\nally  live under egoism\"--you'd all think I'd gone mad.  And\nof course you'd be right.  Because the point I'm  trying  to\nmake is that libertarianism and\/or egoism will be spread if,\nwhen, and as, individual libertarians and\/or egoists find it\nprofitable and\/or enjoyable to do so.    And  probably  only\nthen.\n\n     While I certainly do not disparage the concept of poli-\ntical  action, I don't believe that it is the only, nor even\nnecessarily the most cost-effective path  toward  increasing\nfreedom  in  our time.  Consider that, for a fraction of the\ninvestment in time, money and effort I might expend in  try-\ning  to  convince  the  state to abolish wiretapping and all\nforms of censorship--I can teach every libertarian who's in-\nterested  how  to   use   cryptography   to   abolish   them\nunilaterally.\n\n     There  is  a  maxim--a proverb--generally attributed to\nthe Eskimoes, which very likely most Libertarians  have  al-\nready  heard.    And while you likely would not quarrel with\nthe saying, you might well feel that you've heard  it  often\nenough already, and that it has nothing further to teach us,\nand moreover, that maybe you're even tired of hearing it.  I\nshall therefore repeat it now:\n\n     If you give a man a fish, the saying runs, you feed him\nfor a day.  But if you teach a man how to fish, you feed him\nfor a lifetime.\n\n     Your exposure to the quote was probably in some sort of\na  \"workfare\"  vs.  \"welfare\"  context;  namely, that if you\ngenuinely wish to help someone in need, you should teach him\nhow to earn his sustenance, not simply how to  beg  for  it.\nAnd of course this is true, if only because the next time he\nis hungry, there might not be anybody around willing or even\nable to give him a fish, whereas with the information on how\nto fish, he is completely self sufficient.\n\n     But  I  submit  that this exhausts only the first order\ncontent of the quote, and if there were nothing  further  to\nglean  from  it,  I would have wasted your time by citing it\nagain.  After all, it seems to have almost a crypto-altruist\nslant, as though to imply that we should structure  our  ac-\ntivities  so  as  to  maximize  the  benefits to such hungry\nbeggars as we may encounter.\n\n     But consider:\n\n     Suppose this Eskimo doesn't know how to  fish,  but  he\ndoes  know  how  to hunt walruses.   You, on the other hand,\nhave often gone hungry while traveling thru  walrus  country\nbecause  you  had  no idea how to catch the damn things, and\nthey ate most of the fish you could catch.  And now  suppose\nthe  two  of  you  decide to exchange information, bartering\nfishing knowledge for hunting knowledge.   Well,  the  first\nthing  to  observe  is  that  a  transaction  of  this  type\ncategorically and unambiguously refutes the Marxist  premise\nthat  every  trade  must  have a \"winner\" and a \"loser;\" the\nidea that if one person gains, it must necessarily be at the\n\"expense\" of another person who loses.  Clearly, under  this\nscenario, such is not the case.  Each party has gained some-\nthing  he  did  not have before, and neither has been dimin-\nished in any way.  When it comes to exchange of  information\n(rather  than material objects) life is no longer a zero-sum\ngame.  This is an extremely powerful notion.   The  \"law  of\ndiminishing   returns,\"   the  \"first  and  second  laws  of\nthermodynamics\"--all those \"laws\" which constrain our possi-\nbilities in other contexts--no longer bind us!   Now  that's\nanarchy!\n\n     Or  consider  another possibility:  Suppose this hungry\nEskimo never learned  to  fish  because  the  ruler  of  his\nnation-state    had  decreed fishing illegal.   Because fish\ncontain dangerous tiny bones, and sometimes sharp spines, he\ntells us, the state has decreed that their  consumption--and\neven  their  possession--are  too  hazardous to the people's\nhealth to be permitted . . . even by knowledgeable,  willing\nadults.   Perhaps it is because citizens' bodies are thought\nto be government property, and therefore it is the  function\nof the state to punish those who improperly care for govern-\nment  property.    Or perhaps it is because the state gener-\nously extends to competent adults the \"benefits\" it provides\nto children and to the mentally ill:  namely,  a  full-time,\nall-pervasive supervisory conservatorship--so that they need\nnot  trouble  themselves  with making choices about behavior\nthought physically risky or morally \"naughty.\"  But, in  any\ncase,  you  stare stupefied, while your Eskimo informant re-\nlates how this law is taken so seriously that  a  friend  of\nhis was recently imprisoned for years for the crime of \"pos-\nsession of nine ounces of trout with intent to distribute.\"\n\n     Now  you  may  conclude  that  a society so grotesquely\noppressive as to enforce a law of this  type  is  simply  an\naffront to the dignity of all human beings.  You may go far-\nther  and  decide to commit some portion of your discretion-\nary, recreational time specifically to the task of thwarting\nthis tyrant's goal.  (Your rationale may be \"altruistic\"  in\nthe   sense   of  wanting  to  liberate  the  oppressed,  or\n\"egoistic\" in the sense of  proving  you  can  outsmart  the\noppressor--or  very likely some combination of these or per-\nhaps even other motives.)\n\n     But, since you have zero desire to become a  martyr  to\nyour \"cause,\" you're not about to mount a military campaign,\nor  even try to run a boatload of fish through the blockade.\nHowever, it is here that technology--and in  particular  in-\nformation technology--can multiply your efficacy literally a\nhundredfold.    I say \"literally,\" because for a fraction of\nthe effort (and virtually none of  the  risk)  attendant  to\nsmuggling in a hundred fish, you can quite readily produce a\nhundred  Xerox copies of fishing instructions.  (If the tar-\ngeted government, like present-day America, at least permits\nopen  discussion  of  topics  whose  implementation  is  re-\nstricted,  then that should suffice.  But, if the government\nattempts to suppress the flow of information as  well,  then\nyou will have to take a little more effort and perhaps write\nyour  fishing manual on a floppy disk encrypted according to\nyour mythical Eskimo's public-key parameters.  But as far as\nincreasing real-world access to fish you have  made  genuine\nnonzero  headway--which  may  continue to snowball as others\nre-disseminate the information you have provided.   And  you\nhave not had to waste any of your time trying to convert id-\neological  adversaries, or even trying to win over the unde-\ncided.  Recall Harry Browne's dictum  from  \"Freedom  in  an\nUnfree World\" that the success of any endeavor is in general\ninversely proportional to the number of people whose persua-\nsion is necessary to its fulfilment.\n\n     If  you  look  at  history, you cannot deny that it has\nbeen dramatically shaped by men with names like  Washington,\nLincoln,  .  .  .  Nixon  .  . . Marcos . . . Duvalier . . .\nKhadaffi . . .  and their ilk.  But it has also been  shaped\nby  people with names like Edison, Curie, Marconi, Tesla and\nWozniak.  And this latter shaping has been at least as  per-\nvasive, and not nearly so bloody.\n\n     And  that's  where  I'm  trying  to  take The LiberTech\nProject.  Rather than beseeching the state to please not en-\nslave, plunder or constrain us, I propose a libertarian net-\nwork spreading  the  technologies  by  which  we  may  seize\nfreedom for ourselves.\n\n     But here we must be a bit careful.  While it is not (at\npresent)  illegal  to  encrypt  information  when government\nwants to spy on you, there is no guarantee of what  the  fu-\nture  may hold.  There have been bills introduced, for exam-\nple, which would have made it a crime  to  wear  body  armor\nwhen government wants to shoot you.  That is, if you were to\ncommit certain crimes while wearing a Kevlar vest, then that\nfact  would  constitute a separate federal crime of its own.\nThis law to my knowledge has not passed . . . yet . . .  but\nit does indicate how government thinks.\n\n     Other  technological  applications,  however, do indeed\npose legal risks.  We recognize, for  example,  that  anyone\nwho  helped a pre-Civil War slave escape on the \"underground\nrailroad\" was making a clearly illegal use of technology--as\nthe sovereign government of the United States of America  at\nthat time found the buying and selling of human beings quite\nas  acceptable  as  the buying and selling of cattle.  Simi-\nlarly, during Prohibition, anyone who used  his  bathtub  to\nferment  yeast and sugar into the illegal psychoactive drug,\nalcohol--the controlled substance, wine--was using  technol-\nogy  in a way that could get him shot dead by federal agents\nfor his \"crime\"--unfortunately not to be  restored  to  life\nwhen  Congress  reversed itself and re-permitted use of this\ndrug.\n\n     So . . . to quote a former President,  un-indicted  co-\nconspirator  and pardoned felon . . . \"Let me make one thing\nperfectly clear:\"  The LiberTech Project does not  advocate,\nparticipate  in, or conspire in the violation of any law--no\nmatter how oppressive,  unconstitutional  or  simply  stupid\nsuch  law may be.  It does engage in description (for educa-\ntional and informational  purposes  only)  of  technological\nprocesses,  and some of these processes (like flying a plane\nor manufacturing a firearm) may well require appropriate li-\ncensing to perform legally.    Fortunately,  no  license  is\nneeded  for  the  distribution or receipt of information it-\nself.\n\n     So, the next time you look at the political  scene  and\ndespair,  thinking,  \"Well,  if 51% of the nation and 51% of\nthis State, and 51% of this city have  to  turn  Libertarian\nbefore  I'll  be  free,  then  somebody might as well cut my\ngoddamn throat now, and put me out of my  misery\"--recognize\nthat  such  is not the case.  There exist ways to make your-\nself free.\n\n     If you wish to explore such techniques via the Project,\nyou are welcome to give me your name and address--or a  fake\nname  and  mail  drop, for that matter--and you'll go on the\nmailing list for my erratically-published newsletter.    Any\nfriends  or acquaintances whom you think would be interested\nare welcome as well.  I'm not even asking for stamped  self-\naddressed envelopes, since my printer can handle mailing la-\nbels and actual postage costs are down in the noise compared\nwith  the  other  efforts  in getting an issue out.   If you\nshould have an idea to share, or even a  useful  product  to\nplug,  I'll be glad to have you write it up for publication.\nEven if you want to be the proverbial \"free rider\" and  just\nbenefit  from  what others contribute--you're still welcome:\nEverything will be public domain; feel free to  copy  it  or\ngive it away (or sell it, for that matter, 'cause if you can\nget  money  for  it while I'm taking full-page ads trying to\ngive it away, you're certainly entitled to  your  capitalist\nprofit . . .)  Anyway, every application of these principles\nshould make the world just a little freer, and I'm certainly\nwilling to underwrite that, at least for the forseeable  fu-\nture.\n\n     I  will leave you with one final thought:  If you don't\nlearn how to beat your plowshares into  swords  before  they\noutlaw  swords,  then you sure as HELL ought to learn before\nthey outlaw plowshares too.\n\n                                       --Chuck Hammill\n\n                                 THE LIBERTECH PROJECT\n                                 3194 Queensbury Drive\n                               Los Angeles, California\n                                                 90064\n                                          310-836-4157\n\n                                    hammill@netcom.com\n\n[The above LiberTech address was updated December 1992, with the\n permission of Chuck Hammill, by Russell Whitaker]\n\nThose interested in the issues raised in this piece should participate\nin at least these newsgroups:\n\n                alt.privacy\n                alt.security.pgp\n                comp.org.eff.talk\n                sci.crypt\n\nA copy of the RSA-based public key encryption program, PGP 2.1 (Pretty\nGood Privacy), can be obtained at various ftp sites around the world.\nOne such site is gate.demon.co.uk, where an MS-DOS version can be had by\nanonymous ftp as pgp22.zip in \/pub\/pgp.\n\nVersions for other operating systems, including UNIX variants\nand Macintosh, are also available.  Source code is also\navailable.\n\nHere's the blurb for PGP, by the way:\n\n- ----------------------  Quote ----------------------------------------\nPGP (Pretty Good Privacy) ver 2.2 - RSA public-key encryption freeware\nfor MSDOS, protects E-mail.  Lets you communicate securely with people\nyou've never met, with no secure channels needed for prior exchange of\nkeys.  Well featured and fast!  Excellent user documentation.\n\nPGP has sophisticated key management, an RSA\/conventional hybrid\nencryption scheme, message digests for digital signatures, data\ncompression before encryption, and good ergonomic design.  Source\ncode is free.\n\nFilenames:  pgp22.zip (executable and manuals), pgp22src.zip (sources)\nKeywords:   PGP, Pretty Good Privacy, RSA, public key, encryption,\n            privacy, authentication, signatures, email\n- ---------------------- End Quote -------------------------------------\n\nRussell Earl Whitaker                   whitaker@eternity.demon.co.uk\nCommunications Editor                                 AMiX: RWhitaker\nEXTROPY: The Journal of Transhumanist Thought\nBoard member, Extropy Institute (ExI)\n\n\n-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----\nVersion: 2.2","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\nAnd this search procedure must also follow the rule of law.\n\n\nIt may, if necessary, when the search is executed in an illegal and\nviolent fashion.\n\n\nThese \"criminals\" were threatening the lives of NO ONE -- they were fired \non FIRST, according to a number of accounts.\n\n\nWrong.  Firing a gun at someone is lethal force, even if no one is hit.\nOf course, they DID hit AND kill people.\n\n\nYou are silly.  There are no such warrants in existence, Phill.\n\n\n\nThanks, Phill, for another example of that great socialist sensitivity.\n\"Obey the government or die.\"\n\n*PLONK*\n-- ","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":". . . David gives good explaination of the deductions from the isotropic,\n'edged' distribution, to whit, they are either part of the Universe or\npart of the Oort cloud.\n\nWhy couldn't they be Earth centred, with the edge occuring at the edge\nof the gravisphere? I know there isn't any mechanism for them, but there\nisn't a mechanism for the others either.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Within a few months, I'll be looking for a job in 3d computer graphics\nsoftware.  I'm in need of info on companies that do it.  There's nothing\nin any of the FAQ's for this group, and nothing at siggraph.org (at least\nI couldn't find anything.)  The last Computer Graphics Career Handbook was\ndated 1991, had info on 40 companies, but nothing specific on any of them.\n\nCan people please direct me towards more current and detailed sources of\ninformation?  I'll post a summary of sources if there's interest.\n\nAlso, could you please e-mail me, our news server is on the fritz. :(\n\nThanks,\nBrandon\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I was curious as to what people thought of the VW Corrado VR6?\nThat's about it...","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nThe disease you are talking about is toxoplasmosis.  It is a protozoan that \nlives and multiplies within cells.  In cats, the protozoan multiplies in the\nintestinal cells and eggs are shed in the cat's feces.  The protozoa can\ncross the placenta to infect the fetus.  The disease may be asymptomatic\nafter the baby is born, or it may be very severe.  Toxo may cause blindness\nand mental retardation.\n\nHaving a cat in the same apartment should not be a problem; however, pregnant\nwomen should not scoop or change the cat's litterbox.  In addition, whoever\ndoes empty the litterbox should thoroughly wash his\/her hands before handling\nanything else, especially food.\n\nInformation came from _The Merck Manual, 15th Ed._\n\nI hope this information is helpful to you.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\nIsraeli nationalism (also known as Zionism) is the nationalism of the\nJewish people.  The Jewish people are not a new phenomenon at all.\n\nPalestinean nationalism is the nationalism of Arab people.  Arabs have\nbeen around for a long time.  They already  have some 2 dozen states,\nlarge and small, covering 98% of the Middle East.\n\nMore specifically, Palestinean nationalism is the nationalism of Arabs\nfrom the region of Palestine, just as Egyptian nationalism is the\nnationalism of Arabs from the region of Egypt.  One Palestinean state\nalready exists in what was once known as Palestine: - it is called\nJordan. \n\nThere is no justification in carving out a second and tiny Palestinean\nstate out of the only Jewish state, itself very, very small, just as\nthere is no justification in carving out another American state out of\nMexico. \n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"In the Dallas area, I just bought a can (it's for my best friend's bike... a\n1986 XLH883, mines got a belt hahahahaha!!!) for $6.79 ($7.35 with tax) at\nBates Discount Cycle Parts on the southbound I-35E service road in Farmers\nBranch just a couple miles north of the I-635\/I-35E interchange. They have\nabout a dozen cans left.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Tim> NNTP-Posting-Host: nwfocus.wa.com\n\n\nTim> I saw the film on CNN *as* it happend. It was clear from that\nTim> tape that the fire started in ONE location. Right where the\nTim> tank was attacking, and then had pulled back. There were not\nTim> several spots where the fire started, it started in one\nTim> location and was spread in the direction of the heavy wind.\nTim> The FBI claims to have seen or filmed several starting\nTim> points. Yet they keep this hidden. They have spread so much\nTim> lies. Well I guess if I was responsible for the mass murder\nTim> of 80 people who were exercising constitutional rights, I\nTim> would lie about it too...\n\nGosh, Tim, you must have seen a different live broadcast than I did. While\nthe smoke did emerge from one place initially, it was a considerable\ndistance from the tank, and in a very short time, fire appeared at several\nplaces a good distance apart from there.\n\nThen there's that nagging question about why, out of all those people,\nonly a few made any attempts to escape or save the children. If it were\nme, with my child, [and I wasn't committing suicide,] I believe I would have\nmade SOME attempt to at least save the child. As it was, at least one of\nthe survivors was attempting to GO BACK INTO THE FIRE when they were\nphysically removed. No one lifted a finger to bring out a child, apparently.\n\nHow do you explain that? And the two survivors who claimed to have doused\nthe place with lantern oil and SET the fire (no doubt on David's orders). \n[At least until the lawyers talked to them.] \n\nTim> And also, why have they not yet released the search warrant????  \n\nThat *is* a good question. Maybe because it would be a further\nembarrassment, seeing as how the ATF went in there in Dirty Harry mode\ninitially. \n\nAs stupidly as it all was handled, I find it difficult to believe that the\nentire FBI has completely gone corrupt under a new administration less\nthan 100 days old. Stupidity and bad decisions and plans have always been\nwith us. They just had an alignment at Waco.\n\nTim> Seeeeee Ya  turmoil@halcyon.com   FUCK THE POLICE!!!!\n\nSee? Freedom of speech abounds.\n\nL.\n\"Yeh, Buddy..            | larry@psl.nmsu.edu (Larry Cunningham)|  _~~_\n I've got your COMPUTER! | % Physical Science Laboratory        | (O)(-)\n Right HERE!!\"           | New Mexico State University          |  \/..\\ \n (computer THIS!)        | Las Cruces, New Mexico, USA 88003    |   <> ","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"What can people tell me about apple's new keyboard, the one that is designed\nto be more ergonomically friendly? I have begun to experience wrist and hand\npains using a standard keyboard, and using a powerbook. What can people with\nsimilar experiences tell me? Replies to email please. Paul G.\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nYou don't mention your platform but Digital has a custom widget, NetEd, \nwhich does exactly what you want to do. Cost is nominal 300 or so - call your\nlocal office.  The widget is supported on a variety of platforms and I heard\nrumblings of porting to Sun, etc. so it may be worth the check.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nWell, no, during the original deployment mission the HST aperture door was\nnot opened until after the Shuttle had landed.  \n\nI presume that during a re-boost mission HST would be berthed in the orbiter\nwith the orbiter bay doors shut; but still there would be lots of contamination\nworries.  I understand that the EVA suits are one of the hardest things to \nkeep clean.\n\nBut I still don't know where the idea is coming from that HST _NEEDS_ a\nre-boost.  We have many problems but our orbit is the least of them.  There\nis certainly no plan to change the orbit in the first servicing mission in\nDecember.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"My CB750 does it too.  The \"Switch Continuity\" section of the wiring diagram\nlooks something like this:\n\n\tHL L  H\n        x--x     Low\n        x--x--x  (N)\n        x-----x  High\n\nDean\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"In God,\n\twhose word I praise,\n\tin God I trust;\n\tI will not be afraid.\n\tWhat can mortal man do to me?","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n > Can't someone describe someone's trinity in simple declarative\n > sentences that have common meaning?\n\nI offer him four attempts.\n\nFirst is an essay by me (largely indebted to Attempts Two and\nThree), obtainable by sending the message GET TRINITY ANALOGY to\nLISTSERV@ASUACAD.BITNET or to LISTSERV@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU\n\nSecond is a couple of books by Dorothy L Sayers: a play called THE\nZEAL OF THY HOUSE, and a non-fiction book called THE MIND OF THE\nMAKER.  The play can be found in the book FOUR SACRED PLAYS, and\nalso in various other collections, including one called RELIGIOUS\nDRAMA (Meridian Books) and one called BEST PLAYS OF 1937.\n\nThird is the book MERE CHRISTIANITY by C S Lewis, particularly the\nlast section, called \"Beyond Personality\".\n\nFourth is a book called THEOLOGY FOR BEGINNERS, by the Roman\nCatholic writer Frank Sheed. I will say that I do not find Sheed's\napproach altogether satisfying, but I know some persons whose minds\nI respect who do.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I have the same problem with a Diamond Stealth VRAM card.\nDaniel> .\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\n\tDoes anyone know of an image format conversion tool that will convert a \nraw (8 bit grey scale) image to Gif or Tif format.  It would be great if the tool\nran on a PC, was a Windows application, and supported other formats, but I'll be \nhappy with anything that works.\n\n\n\t\tAttn: Code L10MP   Robert LaFollette \n\t\tDahlgren Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center\n\t\tDahlgren, VA 22448-5000","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nIt's not a question just of who is holding the phone.  It's a question of\nwhat circuit to wiretap in the first place.  If two drug dealers are both\nusing stolen cellular phones, the FBI doesn't know which lines to tap\n-- unless of course they're tapping *all* phones (maybe *all* cellular\nphones).  If they haven't tapped the connection (ie., at least one end of\nthe connection) then they don't know what key to request.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"From Bit.listserv.christia\n\nZane writes...\n \nFrom: FACN34B@SAUPM00.BITNET (zane of dhahan)\nSubject: Christianity in Crisis\nDate: Wed May 12 14:43:19 1993\n \n\"Frank, first of all, thanks for all of the great Scripture verses.  It\nwas a pleasure to read them.\"\n \nMY REPLY...\nYou are welcome, Zane.\n \nZane...\n\"I am sure nothing that I will say will change your mind about it... but I\nwould like to ask you if the book in question really does anything for you.\nI mean, were you all caught up in the word\/faith thing, but now that you\nhave read the book you've been rescued from all of the error and pain that\nwill result in your Christian life?\"\n \nMY REPLY...\n(1) When I first became a Christian, I entered into the Word\/Faith\n    movement.  It was easy.  I wasn't grounded in the Word of God and sound\n    doctrine.  When I visited Christian book stores, the cheapest books I\n    could find to buy were the .50 and $1.00 books by Hagin and others.\n    Consequently, I began receiving Hagin's monthly magazine (and they\n    still send it to me), and also Copeland's (also, still sent to me).\n    It wasn't until I read a booklet by Jimmy Swaggart called _Hyper Faith:\n    The New Gnosticism_ that I began to realize the teachings I were\n    partaking of were error.  I started reading the Bible more and studying\n    more.  Sure enough, Jimmy was right in many points.  As part of my\n    experience, I am alerting Christians, particularly new Christians, that\n    these teachings are heretical and they need to do as the Bereans did in\n    Acts 17:11 - check these teachings out with Scripture!\n \n(2) My brother in law was involved in a Word\/Faith \"cult\" in my area - it's\n    leader is real good friends with Benny Hinn.  Rather then going into\n    much detail about this, suffice it to say he was deceived, mistreated, and\n    has now fallen into atheism.  I'm still praying for him (Phil. 1:6).\n \n(3) The assistant pastor at the church I teach adult Sunday School in has been\n    a `follower' of Copeland for 15 years.  He has thousands of tapes by the\n    Faith teachers.  In the class recently, I quoted several of the teachers'\n    heretical statements to his surprise.  Since then, I've been able to talk\n    to him at length about these issues.\n \n(4) The leader of the Women's Group at my church is a Benny Hinn `fan'.\n    Recently, I found that she has been lending _Good Morning, Holy Spirit_ to\n    women in the church.  That prompted my quotes in Sunday School, as well as\n    my lending CIC to people in the church.\n \nI'm well aware of the abuses and heresies perpetrated in this movement and\nhave an urgency in my heart and life to warn people about the heresies.\nWhat heresies?\n    A. Jesus became sin - took on the very nature of the devil, and became\n        one with him.\n    B. Jesus' death on the cross wasn't enough to atone.\n    C. Jesus was dragged to hell after His death, was beat and abused by\n        Satan and demons, thus finishing our atonement.  Satan was ruling\n        over Him there.\n    D. Jesus was `born-again' in hell.\n    E. Jesus died spiritually, lost His divinity, and reassumed it after\n        the resurrection.\n    F. We are gods.\n \nThese are heresies.  Documentation will be provided re: these teachings\nupon request.\n \nZane...\n\"Or what does it do for you?  Is it preventing you from going out and\njoining up with the word\/faith movement which you'd been contemplating\njoining for so long, but now that you've read the book, you've been saved\nfrom all of that?\"\n \nMY REPLY...\nIt wasn't _Christianity In Crisis_ that helped me; it was a booklet by\nSwaggart that I mentioned above.  But CIC is MUCH, MUCH better - tremendous\ndocumentation and insights.\n \nZane...\n\"I don't have a nice Scriptural answer for why I believe it is at best un-\nprofitable for Christians to engage in this type of activity - heresy hunting.\"\n \nMY REPLY...\nWhy do you call it \"heresy hunting\"?  \"Hunting\" implies it isn't readily\naccessible or available.  This movement is the fastest growing movement in\nChristendom.  Hagin has sold over 40 million books and booklets.  Hinn has sold\nmore books in the last couple of years than Swindoll and Dobson combined.  Fred\nPrice has the largest church in terms of seating capacity in the USA.  Doesn't\nsound like much \"hunting\" is needed.\n \nIt is Scriptural to expose doctrinal error.  I gave some verses to you before.\nMore can be given.  Most of the epistles were written due to error (doctrinal,\npractical) in the churches.  The early church had numerous councils to expose\nerror and heresy.  It's not a new thing.  Remember Luther?\n \nZane...\n\"I would like to point out though, that historically those who hunt heretics\noften end up causing a bigger mess than the heretics... but this is my un-\ndocumented opinion.\"\n \nMY REPLY...\n(1) If you can provide documentation, it would be appreciated.\n(2) Read Ephesians 4:11-16, esp. vss. 13 and 14 and tell me what causes\n    disunity and immaturity in the body.\n \nEPH 4:13-14 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of\nthe Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness\nof Christ; that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried\nabout with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning\ncraftiness of deceitful plotting....\n \nDisunity, contrary to popular opinion, isn't caused by exposing error; it's\ncaused by error.\n \nZane...\n\"There are many who probably give no place for seeing the Scriptures as\ndocumenting a Spiritual development or growth in its writers - but I would\nsuggest that the fiery Paul of the letter to the Galatians mellows and\nmatures into the one who loses all for the sake of Love in the End.\"\n \nMY REPLY...\nMost scholars believe Paul wrote 2 Timothy last.  Let's examine his admonitions\nto Tim to ascertain how mellow he had become...\n \n2TI 1:13-15 Hold fast the pattern of sound words which you have heard from me,\nin faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. That good thing which was\ncommitted to you, keep by the Holy Spirit who dwells in us. This you know, that\nall those in Asia have turned away from me, among whom are Phygellus and\nHermogenes.\n \n2TI 2:15-18 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does\nnot need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane\nand idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. And their\nmessage will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, who\nhave strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already\npast; and they overthrow the faith of some.\n \n2TI 2:24-26 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all,\nable to teach, patient, in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if\nGod perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, and\nthat they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having\nbeen taken captive by him to do his will.\n \n2TI 3:6-9 For of this sort are those who creep into households and make\ncaptives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts,\nalways learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Now as\nJannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of\ncorrupt minds, disapproved concerning the faith; but they will progress no\nfurther, for their folly will be manifest to all, as theirs also was.\n \n2TI 3:12-17 Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer\npersecution. But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving\nand being deceived. But you must continue in the things which you have learned\nand been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from\nchildhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise\nfor salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is given by\ninspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for\ncorrection, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be\ncomplete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.\n \n2TI 4:2-5 Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince,\nrebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. For the time will come\nwhen they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires,\nbecause they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and\nthey will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.\nBut you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an\nevangelist, fulfill your ministry.\n \n2TI 4:14-15 Alexander the coppersmith did me much harm. May the Lord repay him\naccording to his works. You also must beware of him, for he has greatly\nresisted our words.\n \nZane...\n\"The picture I have of Paul is not of one who goes out of his way to destroy\nthe ministry of wolves... but of one who teaches the sheep, with many tears,\nthe necessity of absolutely not allowing themselves to be transformed into\nwolves to protect themselves.\"\n \nMY REPLY...\nACT 20:26-31 \"Therefore I testify to you this day that I am innocent of the\nblood of all men. \"For I have not shunned to declare to you the whole counsel\nof God. \"Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which\nthe Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He\npurchased with His own blood. \"For I know this, that after my departure savage\nwolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. \"Also from among\nyourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the\ndisciples after themselves. \"Therefore watch, and remember that for three years\nI did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.\n \nZane...\n\"For all the warning Paul does, it is of note that he never once drops a name\nof a wolf....  - but I will admit he cries in his beard at the end over those\nwho have abandoned him - everyone in Asia wasn't it ?\"\n \nMY REPLY...\nPaul mentioned names...\n \n1TI 1:18-20 This charge I commit to you, son Timothy, according to the\nprophecies previously made concerning you, that by them you may wage the good\nwarfare, having faith and a good conscience, which some having rejected,\nconcerning the faith have suffered shipwreck, of whom are Hymenaeus and\nAlexander, whom I delivered to Satan that they may learn not to blaspheme.\n \n2TI 1:15 This you know, that all those in Asia have turned away from me, among\nwhom are Phygellus and Hermogenes.\n \n2TI 2:16-18 But shun profane and idle babblings, for they will increase to more\nungodliness. And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus\nare of this sort, who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the\nresurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some.\n \n2TI 4:10 for Demas has forsaken me, having loved this present world, and has\ndeparted for Thessalonica--Crescens for Galatia, Titus for Dalmatia.\n \n2TI 4:14-15 Alexander the coppersmith did me much harm. May the Lord repay him\naccording to his works. You also must beware of him, for he has greatly\nresisted our words.\n \nSo did John...\n \n3JO 1:9-10 I wrote to the church, but Diotrephes, who loves to have the\npreeminence among them, does not receive us. Therefore, if I come, I will call\nto mind his deeds which he does, prating against us with malicious words. And\nnot content with that, he himself does not receive the brethren, and forbids\nthose who wish to, putting them out of the church.\n \nJesus also singled out teachings and doctrines...\n \nREV 2:14-16 \"But I have a few things against you, because you have there those\nwho hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block\nbefore the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit\nsexual immorality. \"Thus you also have those who hold the doctrine of the\nNicolaitans, which thing I hate. 'Repent, or else I will come to you quickly\nand will fight against them with the sword of My mouth.\n \nREV 2:20-23 \"Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow\nthat woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My\nservants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols. \"And I\ngave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent.\n\"Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her\ninto great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds. \"I will kill her\nchildren with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches\nthe minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your\nworks.\n \nZane...\n\"I question too, the purposes of those who write books and build ministries\non the faults - deliberate or otherwise - of others.  Maybe if they would\nwander around in the desert eating locust and honey, or barely cakes...with\nno worldly goods at stake, money to be made, or no reputations to maintain...\nI would question their motives - conscious or otherwise - less.\"\n \nMY REPLY...\nI won't comment on this because it deals with the intangible motives of others.\nBut even if they had bad motives, remember what Paul said...\n \nPHI 1:15-18 Some indeed preach Christ even from envy and strife, and some also\nfrom good will: The former preach Christ from selfish ambition, not sincerely,\nsupposing to add affliction to my chains; but the latter out of love, knowing\nthat I am appointed for the defense of the gospel. What then? Only that in\nevery way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached; and in this I\nrejoice, yes, and will rejoice.\n \nZane...\n\"If we want to be true to the admonitions of Scripture - many of which you\nlist - about protecting ourselves and the flock from wolves and winds of\ndoctrines, I suggest we start by allowing the wolf-program in our own noetic\npasture to be nailed to the Cross.\"\n \nMY REPLY...\nPlease explain.\n \nZane...\n\"Secondly, I suggest any heresy hunting be restricted to our own fellowships -\nwhich in the strict Scriptural sense is the local city-church.\"\n \nMY REPLY...\nIf heresy was not being propagated over the mass media, then it may not be\nneeded to go mass media with the exposure.  Unfortunately, heresy is being\ntaught not just in Copeland's church or Hagin's or Hinn's or Price's, but all\nover the radio, in print, etc.  No pastor or church leader knows what materials\nthe sheep are feeding on outside the church.  It's imperative that leadership\nbe made aware of this, and CIC does just that.\n \nAlso, let's examine a passage of Scripture...\n* EPH 4:11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some\nevangelists, and some pastors and teachers,\n* EPH 4:12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the\nedifying of the body of Christ,\n \nThese ministry gifts that the Lord installs in the church are not just for one\nindividual church, but for \"the body of Christ\".\nPaul was an apostle - he traveled all over distilling his message.  He was also\na teacher -\n1CO 4:17 For this reason I have sent Timothy to you, who is my beloved and\nfaithful son in the Lord, who will remind you of my ways in Christ, as I teach\neverywhere in every church.\n1CO 7:17 But as God has distributed to each one, as the Lord has called each\none, so let him walk. And so I ordain in all the churches.\n \nAlso -\n1CO 12:28 And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second\nprophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps,\nadministrations, varieties of tongues.\n \n* EPH 4:13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of\nthe Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness\nof Christ;\n \nNotice that the \"Five-Fold\" ministries are going to be around \"till\" the church\nis in \"unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God to a perfect\nman\".  This, I believe will not occur fully until the Lord Jesus returns (see\n1Cor. 13:9-12).  But God wants the body to continue on maturing.  What hinders\nmaturity and unity of the body?\n \n* EPH 4:14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried\nabout with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning\ncraftiness of deceitful plotting,\n \nIt's clear that false doctrine, integrated into the church \"by the trickery of\nmen\" causes (1) disunity [the thing we are striving for] and (2) spiritual\nimmaturity - the church continues in spiritual childhood when Christians are\n\"tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine\".\n \nThe \"Five -Fold\" ministry, of which there does not appear to be clear\nScriptural denominational boundaries (\"pastors\" appear responsible for their\nindividual flock), is to deal with these doctrines (when necessary) in their\nstruggle to equip the body.\n \nAll believers are called to do this to a degree...\nJUD 1:3-4 Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our\ncommon salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend\nearnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints. For\ncertain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this\ncondemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny\nthe only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.\n \nZane...\n\"If you'll notice, in Scripture the heresy hunters that went from Church to\nChurch and area to area, were the \"bad guys\" and they went after the \"good guy\"\nnamely Paul - who they considered to be the arch heretic.\"\n \nMY REPLY...\nThey were themselves heretics trying to discredit Paul who was preaching\ncontrary to what they taught!\n \nZane...\n\"Let's face it, the wolves are here for a reason.  And we are here for the\nReason.  And let's hope the wolves become sheep, and the sheep, lambs.\"\n \nMY REPLY...\nYes!\n2TI 2:24-26 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all,\n                                                           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\nable to teach, patient, in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if\n~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  ~~\nGod perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, and\n~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\nthat they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having\nbeen taken captive by him to do his will.\n \nAMEN!\n\n\nFrank","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Subject says it all, though I should specify that I'm looking for solutions\nthat DON'T require me purchasing specific chips, etc....\n\nIn other words, is there some sort of neural network circuit I could build\nafter a visit to a local R-Shack?","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nyet.\n\nI'm not bored either.  Most people I know say that winning the second Cup\nwas better than the first but to me nothing will ever top that first one.\nBut I'm every bit as excited this year and I am experiencing that inner calm\nto which Susan originally referred.  Inner calm is not boredom.\n\nAs far as the arena in general being boring, well Richard's got that right.\nIt's been that way all season.  I attribute it to a lot of new fans who\njust don't have the same spirit and knowledge as long-time fans.  At\nlast Tuesday's game, I overheard a man express surprise that a\ngoaltender can get an\nassist.\n\nAnyone who follows sports with regularity knows that anything can happen\nat any time.  I'm confident in the Pens but I'm also not stupid enough to\nthink for one minute that it's impossible for New Jersey to blow them out\nof this series.  I doubt that will happen but it's possible.  Bored?  Uh-uh.\nSpoiled?  Not in the least.  Forgot what excitement is like?  Living through\nthat amazing streak wasn't exciting?!  I don't take a darned thing for\ngranted.  God, look at Chicago...\n\nAnd I see no problem with quietly savoring all of this anyway.  It isn't gonna\nlast forever and I intend to enjoy it while I can.  ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I use the new keyboard with a IIfx, and I like it. I am not a touch typist\nso some of the advantage is loss on me - but there is difference and less\nstress on my wrists.\n\nDan\n-- ","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nYou should have heard Prof. McNally , from my days as an astronomy\nundergraduate, denouncing photon pollution. It was easy to imagine him\ntaking practical steps to modify the sodium lamps on the street\noutside Mill Hill observatory with a 12-gauge shotgun :-)\n\nHowever, seriously, it is possible to limit the effects of\nstreetlights, by adding a reflector, so that the light only\nilluminates the ground, which is after all where you need it. As a\nbonus, the power consumption required for a given illumination level\nis reduced. Strangely enough, astronomers often seek to lobby elected\nlocal authorities to use such lighting systems, with considerable\nsuccess in the desert areas around the major US observatories. At\nleast, thats what McNally told us, all those years ago.\n( British local authorities couldn`t care less, as far as I can see )\n\nI suppose that the \"right\" to dark skies is no more than an aspiration,\nbut it is a worthwhile one. Illuminated orbital billboards seem especially\nyukky, and are presumably in the area of international law, if any, although\nI do find the idea of a right to bear anti-satellite weapons intriguing.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nOf course.  When the catbox begines to smell, simply transfer its\ncontents into the potted plant in the foyer.\n\n\"Why Hillary!  Your government smells so... FRESH!\"\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n    . . . . .\n\n\nPlease don't be insulted, but based on this I would say that your\nencryption algorithm is very likely not worth the paper it's printed\non.  If the NSA gave export approval, that means they felt confident\nthat they could crack it -- that's their JOB, mandated by LAW, and\nI'm sure they believe in what they do.  If they gave export approval\nto an encryption algorithm which they weren't confident of being able\nto crack, they would be derelict in their sworn duty to monitor foreign\ncommunications for US national security related material.\n\nJust because many (most?) of us think that the government and the spooks\nare pugnacious slimeballs is no reason to lose sight of the fact that\nthey do their jobs to the best of their ability, and further that said\nability is rather high.  I hope that one day we can make them all\nobsolete....... but until then, we have to cope with their existence.\nExport approvals are one thing they do that we can learn a lot from,\nfor example.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n...\n\nThere are several different types of Thyroid diseases which would cause\na hypothyroid condition (reduction in the output of the thyroid, mainly\nthyroxin). Except for ones caused by infections, the treatment is\ngenerally thyroxin pills. Hypothyroid conditions caused by infections\nusually disappear when the infection does...this doesn't sound like the\ncase with your wife.\nThyroxin orally does \"shut down the thyroid\" through a feedback loop\ninvolving the pituitary (I believe). The pituitary \"thinks\" that the\ncorrect amount of thyroxin is being produced so it doesn't have to\ntell the thyroid to produce more. This process is reversable! I have\nHashimoto's thyroiditis (an autoimmune condition) and was on thyroxin\nfor approx 6 mo when my endocrinologist suggested I not take the pills\nfor 6 wks. When I was retested for thyroxin levels, they were normal.\nI still get tested every 6mo because the condition might reappear.\nThe pills are safe and have very few side-affects (& those mostly at\nbeginning of treatment). Having a baby might be a problem and would at\nleast require closer monitoring of hormone levels.\nThyroxin controls energy production which explains sleepiness, coldness,\nand weight gain. There is also water retention (possibly around heart),\nchanges in vision, and coarser hair and skin among other things.\n\nI am not a doctor, so I'm sure I mistated something, but the important\nthing is that thyroid problems are usually easily corrected and if they\naren't corrected can cause problems in the rest of the body. Get a\nsecond opinion from a good endocrinologist and have him\/her explain\nthings in detail to you and your wife.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nNo.  I also understand it. I have read the Bible from cover to cover, examining\neach book within, cross-comparing them, etc.  And I have come to same conclusions\nas Robert Weiss.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nYogurt contains Lactobacillus acidophilus and L. bulgaricus.  L. \nacidophilus is the major bacteria in the vaginal tract and is primarily \nresponsible for keeping the vaginal tract acidic and yeast free.  Most of \nthe commercial yogurt sold in the U.S. has a very low L. acidophilus and L. \nbulgaricus count.  Neither of these bacteria are obligate anaerobes with are \nmuch more important in dealing with the diarrhea problem.  Gordon R. has told \nme through e-mail that he gives his patients L. acidophilus and several \ndifferent obligate anaerobes(which set-up shop in the colon) but he hasn't \ntold me which ones yet.  The Lactobacillus genera are mostly facultative \nanaerobes and will set-up shop where they have access to oxygen if given a \nchance(mouth, anus, sinus cavity and vagina).  Having these good bacteria \naround will greatly decrease the chance of candida blooms in the anal \nregion or the vagina.  I have not proposed a systemic action for candida \nblooms.  I know that others swear that all kinds of symptoms arise from \nthe evil yeast blooms in the body.  I'm not ready to buy that yet.  I do \nbelieve that complications at specific sites(vagina, anal and maybe lower \ncolon, sinus and mouth) can result from antibiotic use which removes the \ncompeting bacteria from these sites and thus lets candida grow unchecked.\nRestoring the right bacterial balance is the best way(in my opinion) to get \nrid of the problem.  Anti-fungals, a low carbohydrate diet and vitamin A \nsupplementation may all help to minimize the local irritation until the \ngood bacteria can take over control of the food supply again and lower the \npH to basically starve the candida out.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nI think that if a theist were truly objective and throws out the notion that\nGod definitely exists and starts from scratch to prove to themselves that\nthe scriptures are the whole truth then that person would no longer be a\ntheist. \n\n\nYou're missing something here.  There are people who convert from\nnon-theism to theism after being brought up in a non-theist household.  (I\ndon't have any statistics as to how many though.  That would be an\ninteresting thing to know.)  I think that religion is a crutch.  People are\nnaturally afraid of the unknown and the unexplainable.  People don't want\nto believe that when they die, they are dead, finished.  That there is\nnothing else after that.  And so religion is kind of a nice fantasy.\nReligion also describes things we don't know about the universe (things\nscience has not yet described) and it also gives people a feeling of\nsecurity... that if they just do this one thing and everything will be ok.\nThat they are being watched over by a higher power and its minions.  This\nhas a very high psychological attraction for quite a few people and these\npeople are willing to put up with a few discrepancies and holes in their\nbelief system for what it gains them.  This is why I think it's kind of\nuseless to try too hard to convert theists to atheism.  They are happy with\ntheir fantasy and they feel that other people will be happy with it too\n(they can't accept the fact that there are people who would rather accept\nthe harsh reality that they are running from).\n\nAnyway, I'm getting kind of carried away here.  But my point is that theism\ndoesn't have to be ingrained into a child's mindset for that person to grow\nup as a theist (although this happens far too often).  Theism is designed\nto have its own attractions.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nSuch as?","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Dear gentlemen!\n\nThe firm called \"INTERBUSINESS,LTD\" offers quite inexpensive\nmethod to determine ore & oil locations all over the world.\nIn this method used data got from space satellites. Being\nin your office and using theese data you can get a good statis-\ntical prognosis of locations mentioned above.\n\n        This prognosis could be done for any part of the world!\nIf you're interested in details please send E-mail:\n\n        svn@aoibs.msk.su","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n I'd like to echo these sentiments.  This is the worst coverage I can \n ever remember seeing on CBC.  As soon as the game ends, I can count to 30,\n and by that time, they've signed off the air.  No post game interviews,\n no updating of late scores, nothin'.  TSN is really putting CBC to \n shame.  I only hope the later round coverage improves, I mean, who\n really wants to see CBC PrimeTime News instead of hockey.\n\n My $.02,\n  Darren\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nNo, it does not.\n\n-- \n\"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live\n in the real world.\"   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I really don't know how you can possibly maintain this hypocritical\nstance.\n\nOn the one hand, you imply that there is a conspiracy of Arab-Americans\nthat warrants the illegal gathering of information on them (ie. auto license\/\nregistration information in California) and other forms of \"monitoring\", including\nblatant attempts by paid ADL agents to discredit an American-Arab \norganization by trying to distribute Nazi propaganda.  Furthermore,\nyou attempt to rationalize this through crude stereotyping by pointing \nto the WTC bombing, in which Arab-Americans had no involvement.\n\nOn the other hand, you publish this excerpt, which seems to rail\nagainst notions of a racial (Jewish, in this case) conspiracy and\nstereotypes.\n\nIf you really aren't the hypocrite you appear to be, please explain \nyourself.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n       Let's try that again:  Why was the BATF concerned about surprise\nwhen they intended to serve the warrant by knocking on the door?  The\nBATF appears to be inconsistant in their own description of events.\n\n       And in any case, how does one mount an ambush if one isn't\n\"on alert?\"\n\n\n       So, were the BATF fired on before or after they left the trailers\nto knock on the door to serve the warrant?  Every description I've\nheard indicates the BATF did not hang around in the trailers once\nthey decided to open them up.\n\n       For that matter, if they expect peaceful citizens, why come in live-\nstock trailers to being with?\n\n\n       Ok, just to make sure we've got this straight:  You consider\narmed troops in disguised vehicles and multiple helicopters to be\nused to serve search warrants on peaceful citizens.  (And just so\nwe don't have one of those entertaining shifts, *you* described them\nas the BATF expecting them to be, peaceful.)\n\n\n       I don't see how past abuses excuse present ones.  Hell, you're\nnot even discussing the same government. \n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nSaying \"hopefully the effect of policy X will be Y\" is *much* different\nfrom saying \"hopefully if there is any effect of policy X it will be Y.\"\nHere you've made both statements.\nIf the former describes a reasonably-likely outcome of policy X, then\nperhaps policy X is worthy of consideration - but the latter statement\nis not something to base policy decisions on!\n\n\nAccording to groups like the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence (formerly\nthe National Coalition to Ban Handguns - interesting name change, don't you\nthink?) who include murder and suicide by firearms in the \"leading causes of\nunintentional death) figures but *don't* include murder and suicide by other\nmeans as causes of unintentional death.  Can't you see past the bullshit?\n\n\nCertainly accidental deaths by any cause are serious things - but the\nanti-gun groups insist over and over again that accidental death by\nfirearms is a *stastically serious problem*, and even if you don't use\nthese deaths as a justification for gun control, these groups do.  I'm\nsorry if I jumped to conclusions about your reason for mentioning\naccidental deaths due to firearms being something that warranted concern,\nbut in light of your statement that you are a staunch supporter of gun\ncontrol measures, I think the conclusion was a reasonable one.\nThe fact remains that tragic though individual accidental gun deaths may\nbe, they are *not* a serious problem statistically speaking.\n\n\nSorry if it wasn't clear to me.  I thought you were waffling on your view\nof buyback programs with the talk of symbolic offerings and hopefully\npreventing accidents and heat-of-passion shootings.  I have to disagree on\nall these counts; I can't understand how a buying guns from people who\naren't intending to misuse them (obviously those who want to use guns to\ncommit crimes aren't going to turn them in) could be construed as a\npositive way for police to respond to \"interpersonal violence.\"\n\n\nWhat, the people who publish figures saying that as many children commit\nsuicide by HANDGUNS ALONE each year as the FBI says commit suicide by ALL\nMETHODS per year?  Who do you think I should believe?  The people who call\neveryone up to age 24 \"children\" when they're screaming about the \"carnage\nof our nation's children\" being caused by handguns?\n\n\nAh, yes, the agency that considers accidental shootings of children to be\nsuch a statistical problem that a stated objective in the Healthy People\n2000 document is to \"enact laws in 50 states requiring manufacturers of\nhandguns to make the handguns more difficult to fire, minimizing the\nlikelihood of accidental or intentional dscharge by children?\"  The\nagency that funded the \"study\" of DC which pronounced that the DC gun ban\nhad saved X lives (yes, they actually gave us a number) on the basis of\na look at the *number* of shootings rather than the *rate* of shootings?\nIt wasn't their fault that the population of DC dropped in their \"post law\"\nperiod...\n\n\n\nOkay, I'll concede I no longer have the numbers I once read on these.  I'll\nretract my dispute of your numbers.  However, I would be greatly interested\nin seeing how CPHV and CDC came up with these numbers.\n\n\nWhat's this got to do with anything?  Hell, when *I* was in elementary\nschool I came home to an empty house with guns in it.  Why is this a\nproblem?  I didn't touch the guns - I had been taught not to.  I had also\nbeen taught not to mess with the gasoline in the garage, the fuse box, the\ncar, the knives, the oven, and the tools.  The problem is not the guns,\nit's the parents!!!\n\n\nAnd what are these states doing with the kids they find with guns?\nNOTHING.  No criminal prosecution, no expulsion, in most cases not even\nsuspension.  They take the gun, slap the kids on the wrist, say \"ain't it\nawful,\" and go on as if everything's back to normal.  What's wrong with\nthis picture?\n\n\nI don't think Koresh was the Messiah, either... but isn't it obvious that\nif he believed the forces of evil were come to destroy him, then he\nbelieved the children were much safer inside the compound?  I didn't say\nhe was sane... just that he behaved in a pretty rational manner given what\nhe thought was going on.  He thought he had them in the one place where\nharm *wouldn't* come to them.\n\n\nLet's see *you* try to find the exits, unbarricade them, and flee a fire\nwhen you've been kept awake for most of 50 days by loudspeakers and subjected\nto six hours of tanks knocking in your walls and tear gas assault.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Hypostasis\n\n[I've explained it here before.  If you want the full document, ask me by mail\n--Rex] \n\n\n   \"Questions arise as we begin to think about LOGOS and what His inner\nconsciousness was composed of. We need to clarify the two natures of Christ\nbriefly.  The divine nature, which has existed eternally, did not undertake any\nessential changes during the incarnation which would cause a conflict with the\nattributes of God, the foremost of these being His immutability.  This would\nmean that it remained impassable, that is, incapable of suffering and death,\nfree from ignorance and insusceptible to weakness and temptation.  In the realm\nof the divine nature it is better to say that the Son of God became that which\nwas not absolute-and in Himself.  The result of the incarnation was that the\ndivine LOGOS could be ignorant and weak, could be tempted and suffer and die,\nnot in His divine nature, but by the derivation of His possession of a human\nnature.\n     This would mean that both the properties of the divine nature and the\nhuman nature are properties of the person, and therefore ascribed to the\nperson. By this reason we can say that the person can be omnipotent,\nomniscient, and omnipresent, yet at the same time be also a man of limited\npower, knowledge, a man of sorrows, subject to human wants and miseries.  There\nis, however, no penetration of one nature into the other.  Deity can no more\nshare the imperfections of humanity than humanity can share in the essential\nperfection of the Godhead.\n     We are not to assume that there is a double personality due to the\npossession of the double natures.  Christ's human nature is impersonal, in that\nit attains self-consciousness and self-determination in the personality of the\nGod-man.  We must now differentiate between the person and the nature of the\nMan. Nature is defined:\n\n\"the distinguishing qualities or properties of something; the fundamental\ncharacter, disposition or temperament of a living being, innate and\nunchangeable.\"\n\n     Nature is then, in essence, the substance possessed in common, in as such\nthe Trinity have one nature.  There is also a common nature of mankind. \nPersonality, on the other hand, is the separate subsistence of nature, with the\npower of consciousness and will.  It is for this reason that the human nature\nof Christ has not, nor ever had, a separate subsistence, that it is impersonal.\n LOGOS, the God-man, represents the principle of personality.  It is equally\nimportant to see that self-consciousness and self-determination do not, as\nsuch, belong to the nature.  It is for this reason that we can justifiably say\nthat Jesus did not have two consciousness or two wills, but rather one.  It is\ntheanthropic, an activity of the one personality which unites in itself the\nhuman and the divine natures, being that neither the consciousness nor the will\nare simply human or simply divine.\"\n\n\n[The quotation given above is not identified, and it's not entirely\nclear to me what position Loren is taking on it.  Just for clarity,\nlet me note that the view expressed in it is one of the classic\nChristological heresies -- monothelitism.  That's the position that\nChrist's two natures were not complete, in that there was only one\nwill.  In most cases (which I think includes this example), it was the\nhuman will that was regarded as missing.\n\nNormally people who talk about Christ's human nature as being\n\"impersonal\" mean it in a somewhat more abstract sense.  That is, they\nare using \"person\" as hypostatis, not in the usual English sense of\npersonality.  In this use, the doctrine is called \"anhypostasia\".\nPersonally I think anhypostasia is just a more sophisticated way of\ndenying that the Logos took on humanity fully.  However it has never\nbeen formally ruled a heresy, and in fact has been held by influential\ntheologians both ancient and modern (e.g. Athanasius).  But the\nquotation above appears to be going farther than even Athanasius went,\ninto the realm of the overtly heretical.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n \n\nHey Dan, \nSome potentially cool story stuff here... Do share the details.\n*I* never get a break, probably most of us don't either, so please, \nenlighten and enliven, and let us live vicariously.\n\nWaitin' for that story...\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nYou don't mention your riding area.  If you're in the Eastern part\nof Ontario Canada, I may be able to help.  I love 1 day runs and\nmore.  More info needed.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nPardon me? Your ignorance cramps my conversation. Although the administrative \nmechanism was a strictly centralized one, the Ottoman Empire 'was a classical \nexample of a pluralist social order.' The 'millet system' was the mechanism \nwhich shaped the social order of the multi-national Ottoman Empire and stood \nbehind its continuity. As a matter of fact, because Islamic principles \nwere in force in the Ottoman Empire, it was natural to use religious \ncriteria to differentiate among the various communities which constituted \nthe Empire. The 'millet' system began to be based on ethnicity in the \n19th century under the influence of nationalism. Sousa writes of the \nexistence of thirteen communities in the Ottoman Empire in addition to \nthe Muslim 'millet' in 1914. These were: (1) Greeks attached to the \nOrthodox Patriarchate in Istanbul; (2) Catholics or Latins who were \nremnants of Genoese and Venetian merchants; (3) Gregorian Armenians \nattached to a Patriarchate in Istanbul; (4) Catholic Armenians; (5) Syrian \nCatholics attached to a Patriarchate in Mardin; (6) Chaldean Catholics \nattached to a Patriarchate in Mosul; (7) Syrian Jacobites attached to a \nPatriarchate in Mardin; (8) Protestants; (9) Melchites attached to a \nPatriarchate in Damascus; (10) Hebrews of two rites; (11) Bulgarian \nCatholics attached to the Bulgarian Exarch; (12) Maronites; and (13) \nNestorians.[1] Scholars who studied the pluralistic social structure \noutlined briefly above, concluded that the social order of the Ottoman \nEmpire fit the framework of the 'Mosaics Theory.'[2] \n\n[1] N. Sousa, \"The Capitulatory Regime of Turkey, its History, Origin and\n    Nature,\" (Baltimore, 1933).\n[2] C. S. Coon, Caravan: \"The Story of the Middle East,\" (New York, 1951),\n    p. 162 and H. A. R. Gibb\/H. Bowen, \"Islamic Society and the West: A\n    Study of the Impact of Western Civilization on Moslem Culture in the\n    Near East,\" (Oxford, 1951).\n\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":": I have the following problem on X11R5 servers.\n: \n: When a window of my is obscured by a pop up window which has\n: the Save Under attribute set, the subwindows of my window are not restored.\n: Normally, the subwindows are redrawn when the parent window gets an expose\n: event, but because the save under attribute is used for the pop up window\n: that obscured my window, no expose event is sent.\n\nWe had the same problem and on most of our machines it works if we use\nBacking Store instead of Save under.\n\nMarcus","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Thanks for all the recommendations. I have decide to ignore the service \nindicators and do oil change myself every 3000 miles.\n\nThanks again for all the responses. ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nJudging by your .sig you are trying to make some kind of game cartridge.\nInformation of how to build an EEPROM cartidge for the vectrex is available\nvia anonymous ftp at 'csus.edu'.\n\nSince you've chosen the 27C512 you are probably trying to make a 'multicart'.\nTo do this simply:\n1. Load the game images into the EEPROM at $2000, $4000, etc. (Your EEPROM\nburner software may allow this or you will have to assemble the images into\none file yourself with suitable gaps.)\n2. Wire up the cartridge with the lower address bits going to the game\nconsole, and the high bits going to switches to choose between games.\n\nTo directly answer your question above, the pin that 'kicks up the address'\nis simply another address line.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Colonics were a health fad of the 19th century, which persists to this day.\nExcept for certain medical conditions, there is no reason to do this.\nCertainly no normal person should do this.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I have a Leading edge 486sx25 with 4 Megs of RAM that are in the forms of  \n4 1 meg SIMMS.  Each SIMM has *two* chips on it. They are manufactured by  \nSamsung and are 80ns.  A salesman told me that the leading edge CPC-2300  \nmotherboard has the extra parity bit built in and reccomemnded I use MAC  \nSIMMS. I tried using 4 Megs pulled out of a Mac SI (these are 8 chip  \nSIMMS), but I got too many windows protection faults and parity errors. I  \nguess I should use the same SIMMS as the ones I have, but I can't find  \nany!! Most of the places I have called carry only 3 8 or 9 chip SIMMS.\n\nSo if anybody knows where I can get memory that is good with my computer  \nor if you have any suggestions at all, please let me know.\n\nAny help is truly appreciated.\n\n-Eric","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"From article <1r3jl5$igh@function.mps.ohio-state.edu>, by nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai):\n\nWell, I don't exaclty know what _should_ be done, but what I do is\nkeep my cpu on and turn my monitor off when not in use.  I do this as\nmuch for easing power consumption as anything though.  Turning off the\nmonitor when not in use has the advantage of requiring less RAM than\na screen saver (but it requires more of MY memory to remember to turn\nit off... pretty easy to remember to turn it on though :-)\n\n\n\n-- \n---------------------------------------------------------------------\nInstrument Approach Procedures Automation             DOT\/FAA\/AMI-230","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nordered 2 fork seals and 2 guide bushings from CA for my FZR.  two weeks later\nget 2 fork seals and 1 guide bushing.  call CA and ask for remaining *guide*\nbushing and order 2 *slide* bushings (explain on the phone which bushings are\nwhich; the guy seemed to understand).  two weeks later get 2 guide bushings.\n\n*sigh*\n\nhow much you wanna bet that once i get ALL the parts and take the fork apart\nthat some parts won't fit?","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nYep! Sounds good to me. suggestion: sci.electronics.art ?\n\nBest regards,","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":":\n\n\n\nWhen McManus says, \"We have the world's best medical care,\" I can hardly\nbelieve he's referring to a system:\n\n1.  That costs us 14 percent of our GDP, while there isn't a\n    single other country in the industrialized world that spends more than\n    10 percent.\n\n2.  That leaves 37 million of us with no coverage, even though all\n    the other systems in the industrialized world cover virtually everyone.\n\n3.  Yet, Americans rank near the bottom of the list in terms of life\n    expectancy, childhood immunization rate, infant mortality, and many\n    preventable diseases.\n\n4.  We pay, on average, about $1000 each for MRIs.  (To put that in\n    perspective, they cost $177 in Japan.)\n\n5.  The average US company spends over 2500 dollars a year per employee on\n    health benefits.  Seven hundred to 1500 is the range just about everywhere\n    else.\n\n\nHow can anyone say that such a system is the best in the world?  The only\nthing the USA health care system is good at is showering well-insured patients\nwith a champagne treatment of care and outrageously overcharging for it.  And\nthe \"private\" system of insurers and paperwork is so bloated and inefficient\nthat it itself sucks up over 100 billion dollars a year in money from every\nother sector of society - individuals, government, and industry.\n\nOf the < 800 billion dollars Americans threw into the bottomless pit of health\ncare costs last year, the Consumer's Union estimated that at least 200 billion\nwas thrown away on overpriced, useless, and even downright harmful tests and\nprocedures, and the most bureaucratic, regulated insurance system in the world.\n\nThere are more than 1200 different private insurers in the USA.  But did the\n\"private competition\" stimulate more efficient paperwork?  Ask any doctor\nwho's had to hire a full-time clerk to deal with it all!\n\nThe competition among hospitals is driving costs UP, not down.  The\ncompetition among hospitals for both doctors and patients has encouraged the\nhospitals to traffic in expensive superfluous equipment.  Spending millions on\nexpensive machines of dubious value that spend 80 percent of the day idle\nisn't my idea of the world's best health care system.\n\nCompetition among specialists is driving them to perform dangerous and\nexpensive procedures where they are very marginally helpful.  I'm especially\nthinking of heart surgery and some women's surgeries like hysterectomy and\nCesarean section.  Sound like the world's best health care system?\n\n\n\nEver notice how, every time someone tries to bring about some real change in\nhealth care, the Libbies start bashing Canada's system?  First of all, Hillary\nClinton is not advocating another Canadian system.  I think that's been made\nabundantly clear in the news for the last couple of months.  Where did John F.\nMcManus get that idea, anyway?\n\nLet's say you're a Canadian living in a small town near the USA border.  Your\nchild needs a complicated procedure only available in city hospitals.  The\nnearest Canadian cities are 6 hours west and 20 hours east, and there's an\nAmerican city one hour south.  Which way are you going to go?  Is it because\nthe American system is the \"best\" in the world, or just for convenience?\n\nIt still amazes me that people can't seem to see more than just black and\nwhite on health care reform.  There are a million different ways we ould\nrestructure the system.  It's not just a choice between total government\ncontrol and total private control.  I wish the people screaming \"socialized\nmedicine\" every time soemone wants to change the current syste would INFORM\nTHEMSELVES on health care issues.\n\n\n\nThe current system sucks.  I want to keep providers private but that doesn't\nchange the fact that we will never be able to deal with the deficit if we\ndon't REFORM THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.  Purely private health care without any\ngovernment intervention doesn't work.  Hillary Clinton is not thinking of\nnationalizing providers or evern insurers.  How can you scream \"socialized\nmedicine\" at her programs?  Don't you even know what you're talking about?\n\n\n\nEver see Clinton's graphs of projected deficit versus year for the rest of the\ndecade?  Notice how the line falls, then starts increasing?  Why?  I'll give\nyou one wild guess as to which component of spending will overwhelm us if we\ndon't do something about it.\n\n\n\nPEOPE JUST DOESN'T GET IT.  The current health care system is a cancer which is\nkilling our economic well-being.  Costs are still rising 10 percent a year\neven as Americans by the tens of millions go without, or are forced into\nmanaged-care programs, which are certainly pretty socialized already if you\nask me.\n\nA couple of months ago I posted a message asking any Hillary-bashers to please\ncome forward and present (no gimmicks, straight talk) just how THEY would set\nabout keeping costs down.  I didn't get a single answer.\n\nThe only thing I keep hearing from Libbie organizations are press releases\nfilled with evasive platitudes like \"give health care back to the people.\"\nJust do you expect to do that without serious reforms?  What is it about the\ncurrent system that you would change and how would that help?\n\n\nHow can anyone read the news, live under our system, and NOT see these faults?\nHow can we deal with the deficit, our cities, our educational system, our\ninfrastrucure, AIDS, modernizing our industry, etc. if we don't quit throwing\naway money which could be used to SOLVE those problems?\n\n\nAmerica needs health care reform NOW.  Don't just sit there and Hillary-bash,\ninform yourself!\n\nJim Reynolds\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I don't know much about computers, so please bear with me. Here's my question:\n\nCONTEXT: I use a package called SLIP on my home computer to connect to the\n         university mainframe (an IBM 3090 running VMS\/MVS), and log on to my\n         account. When I installed SLIP on my computer, I had to configure it\n         for my modem (14.4 kbs Etronics internal) and had to supply the phone\n         number to dial to reach the mainframe. The way it works now is that\n         I type \"telnet uicvm\" or \"tn3270 uicvm\" (either will work) at the DOS\n         prompt. UICVM is the node name of the mainframe. The program then\n         dials the mainframe, establishes a protocol, and gives me the logon\n         screen. \"TELNET\" and \"TN3270\" are the names of batch files in my SLIP\n         directory. I have been told that a kermit protocol is used for the\n         session.\n\nPROBLEM: I would like to be able to do all this under Windows 3.1 because I\n         hardly ever use DOS directly. SLIP will not run under Windows. I\n         talked to the people at our computer center, and they suggested that\n         I use a packet driver called WINPKT.COM with SLIP. They gave me\n         instructions on how to load it before I start Windows, and how to\n         modify the TCPSTART and TCPSTOP batch files (in the SLIP directory)\n         to ensure that it would work. I did all that and I could run SLIP\n         from Windows, but there were other problems. For one thing, SLIP\n         would not hang up the phone when I exited. I had to run my communi-\n         cations program to hang up the phone or reboot the computer when\n         that didn't work. For another, there were too many errors. It often\n         took me 3-4 tries to connect to the mainframe. Our computer center\n         does not support SLIP under Windows, so I can't keep going back to\n         them with more questions.\n\nQUESTION: Is there some other SHAREWARE package that will run under Windows\n         and do what SLIP is supposed to do? I need a package that is not too\n         expensive, which is why I am looking for shareware. I have heard that\n         there are regular commercial packages that do all this, but they cost\n         hundreds of dollars. These are the main requirements:\n\n         1. Must be able to run under Windows 3.1\n         2. Must allow VT100 and IBM TN3270 terminal emulation\n         3. Must allow ftp file transfers, since that's the only kind the\n            mainframe allows. No Y-modem or Z-modem etc. I believe the ftp\n            transfers are made through a kermit protocol, but I'm hazy about\n            that.\n\n         A subsidiary feature (that would be nice to have) if it's a true\n         Windows program (rather than a DOS program modified to run under\n         Windows) is the ability to run the session in a window concurrently\n         with other applications and to cut and paste between the telnet\n         session and other applications.\n\nAny information received is appreciated.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nDitto.\n\nSource: \"Men Are Like That\" by Leonard Ramsden Hartill. The Bobbs-Merrill\nCompany, Indianapolis (1926). (305 pages). \n(Memoirs of an Armenian officer who participated in the genocide of 2.5 \n million Muslim people)\n\n\n\n\nYou have set up straw horses and knocked them down. I'm not impressed. \nLet us ask Armenian scholars - shall we?\n\n\nSource: K. S. Papazian, \"Patriotism Perverted,\" Baikar Press, Boston, 1934.\n\npp. 17-18.\n\n\"It seems that terrorism against their own co-nationals has been a prominent\n part of the revolutionary activities of the Dashnag leaders of the Caucasus.\n Organized to fight the Turks, these chieftains have been more successful\n in their fight against their Armenian opponents in Turkey, and the Caucasus,\n very often defenseless and innocent.\"\n\np. 25.\n\n\"We were defeated\".\n\np. 38.\n\n\"The fact remains, however, that the leaders of the Turkish Armenian section\n of the Dashnagtzoutune did not carry out their promise of loyalty to the\n Turkish cause when the Turks entered the war...and a call was sent for \n Armenian volunteers to fight the Turks on the Caucasian front.\"\n\np. 38.\n\n\"Thousands of Armenians from all over the world, flocked to the standards of\n such famous fighters as Antranik, Kery, Dro, etc. The Armenian volunteer\n regiments rendered valuable service to the Russian Army in the years of\n 1914-15-16.\"\n\n\nBy the way, here is the entire paragraph.\n\n\"We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as \n ways of escape for the Tartars and then proceeded in the work \n of extermination. Our troops surrounded village after village. \n Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked the huts \n into heaps of stone and dust and when the villages became untenable \n and inhabitants fled from them into fields, bullets and bayonets \n completed the work. Some of the Tartars escaped of course. They \n found refuge in the mountains or succeeded in crossing the border \n into Turkey. The rest were killed. And so it is that the whole \n length of the borderland of Russian Armenia from Nakhitchevan to \n Akhalkalaki from the hot plains of Ararat to the cold mountain \n plateau of the North were dotted with mute mournful ruins of \n Tartar villages. They are quiet now, those villages, except for \n howling of wolves and jackals that visit them to paw over the \n scattered bones of the dead.\" \n\n                             Ohanus Appressian\n                            \"Men Are Like That\"\n                                   p. 202.\n\nNow wait, there is more.\n\n1) Armenians did slaughter the entire Muslim population of Van.[1,2,3,4,5]\n2) Armenians did slaughter 42% of Muslim population of Bitlis.[1,2,3,4]\n3) Armenians did slaughter 31% of Muslim population of Erzurum.[1,2,3,4]\n4) Armenians did slaughter 26% of Muslim population of Diyarbakir.[1,2,3,4]\n5) Armenians did slaughter 16% of Muslim population of Mamuretulaziz.[1,2,3,4]\n6) Armenians did slaughter 15% of Muslim population of Sivas.[1,2,3,4]\n7) Armenians did slaughter the entire Muslim population of the x-Soviet\n   Armenia.[1,2,3,4]\n8)....\n\n[1] McCarthy, J., \"Muslims and Minorities, The Population of Ottoman \n                   Anatolia and the End of the Empire,\" New York \n                   University Press, New York, 1983, pp. 133-144.\n\n[2] Karpat, K., \"Ottoman Population,\" The University of Wisconsin Press,\n                 1985.\n\n[3] Hovannisian, R. G., \"Armenia on the Road to Independence, 1918. \n                         University of California Press (Berkeley and \n                         Los Angeles), 1967, pp. 13, 37.\n\n[4] Shaw, S. J., 'On Armenian collaboration with invading Russian armies \n                  in 1914, \"History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey \n                  (Volume II: Reform, Revolution & Republic: The Rise of \n                  Modern Turkey, 1808-1975).\" (London, Cambridge University \n                  Press 1977). pp. 315-316.\n\n[5] \"Gochnak\" (Armenian newspaper published in the United States), May 24, \n              1915.\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I am running Windows 3.1 on a 386SX-16 MHZ with Five Megs of Memory.\n\nThe motherboard came with one meg, and I added the four megs this past\nweekend.  They were 1X9 70 Simms.\n\nI had installed in the application menu MS-DOS command PARK.  Up till\ntoday, it parked the disk from the application menu without any problem.\n\nWhen attempting to park the heads today, I received the following\nmessage:\n\n\nSTOP        This application has violated system integrity due to\n            an invalid general protection fault and will be\n            terminated.\n\nWhat does this message mean?\n\nThanks,\n\n\n\n\n-- \nDavid De Trolio                         (detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu)","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"For Sale:\n        DOS 4.01, with original manuals, box, and\n        either 5.25\" or 3.5\" disks (full version, \n\tNOT OEM).\n\n\t** $15.00 (including all shipping charges) **\n\t** please respond! bitzm@columbia.dsu.edu  **\n\n\n\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
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{"text":"\nFirstly, an aside:\n\nI agree that the weakness exists, but I have a lot of trouble\nbelieving that it represents a difficulty in real life. Given:\n\n1. the purpose of the one-time pad is to give unbreakable security,\nand the expense of key distribution etc., imply that the clients\nreally do want that level of security\n\n2. These same people want to keep P a secret\n\nI find it hard to believe that Eve might happen to have a copy of P\nlying around.\n\n(I am aware that the same argument applies to Eve knowing even a small\npart of the message, but Eve must know EXACTLY where (which bytes) in\nC her known susequence starts, or the result will be garbled. I find\nthis at least as surprising.)\n\nBack to the question:\n\nIf I had the resources to use a one-time-pad for such transmissions, I\nwould also append a Message Authentication Code to the message, using up\nthe next bits of the one-time-pad as the key perhaps. Your original\nquestion basically asked whether there was any way to authenticate the\nmessage with the same degree of security as the Pad itself provided,\nand I don't know the answer. However, I would propose the following\nfor discussion.\n\nAlice and Bob have an arbitrary number of secret, random bits to\nshare, which Eve doesn't know. She finds them out (effectively) by\nknowing some P and the corresponding C. It is the fact that they\nCORRESPOND that causes the problem. If a message authentication code was to\nbe created using some one-time-pad operation such that Eve could not\nknow which parts of the MAC were affected by which parts of the input,\nshe would be unable to forge a MAC to correspond.\n\nWhat is required is a non-linear combiner of parts of the message.\n(Non-linear so that simply xoring or subtracting or whatever doesn't\nhave exactly the same effect).\n\nNow, at the end of the encrypted message C, Alice appends a n-bit MAC\ncomputed as follows (S2 means the next full chunk of the one time pad):\n  1. compute C2 = P xor S2, and pad to an n-bit boundary with more of S\n  2. break C2 into n-bit chunks\n  3. set MAC to 0 (initialisation vector)\n  4. for i in each chunk sequentially\n       set MAC = MAC NLOP C2[i]\n\nAt the end of this process MAC is the Message Authentication Code.\n\n(Bob verifies the MAC in the obvious manner; he recovers the\nplaintext P, then uses some more of his pad to reproduce the MAC in\nthe same manner.)\n\nNLOP is the non-linear operator, and there is the rub. The simplest\nnon-linear operator I can think of is an S-box; that is, have a fixed\n(even published) permutation of the n-bit integers, an indexable table\ncalled Sbox, and use:\n  x NLOP y = x xor Sbox[y].\n\nPractically speaking, I think this solves your problem, as Eve never\nsees the intermediate output C2, and hence can't deduce S2 or perform any valid\nsubstitution on it.\n\nAlso practically speaking, you want the MAC to be fairly large, say 32\nbits, but you might not want a 4 gigabyte (say) S-box, so you might\nwork on 4 byte-sized S-boxes, but I think that is an irrelevant detail\nfor the discussion at hand.\n\nWho will be first to point out my errors, or give me a pointer to some\nliterature?","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\njust out of curiosity, how is this \"dog clutch\" any different from a synchro\ntransmission.  What you described SOUNDS the same to me.  In fact, what little\ni've studied on trannies, the instructor referred to the synchros as \"dogs\"\nand said they were synonymous.  The gears are always meshed in a synchronized\ngearbox, and you slip the synchro gears back and forth by shifting. Or at least,\nthat is what i was taught.  Explain, por favour?","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nThere's always the old switcheroo.\n\nMy brother works at a dialysis clinic.  They were interviewing \ncandidates for a technician job (mainly electronics tech), and a\nurine screen was part of the interview.  The bathroom was across\nthe hall from a lab.  One candidate managed to switch his urine\nsample with one he grabbed from the lab.  (No one was in it at\nthe time.)","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"(Detroit, April 21)\n\nMost knowledgable observers once again watched in shock as the Detroit Red\nWings again beat the best goaltender in the world six times en route to \nanother easy victory over the best team in the NHL. \n\nFor the best goaltender in the world, Felix Potvin, six was a bad number as\nhe surrendered six goals and collected six minutes in penalties in reponse\nto the goon tactics employed by the inferior Red Wings team. \n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tAlan","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Has anyone read this important book?  If so, what are your feelings about it?\n\nFrank","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nThe same could be said for many other goverment agencies, but big budgets,\nlarge staffs, and long lead time haven't made many of them into models of\neffectiveness.\n\nThe fact is that those of us outside the inner circles have only James\nBamford's word that the people at the NSA use those legendary masses of\ncomputers for anything other than reading netnews, like many of us.\n\nThe NSA *doesn't* have an impressive record of accomplishments, at least\nnot a public record.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Hi\n  I am thinking of upgrading to the Beta Version of Windows NT on a 486SX 25Mhz\n213Mb Hard disc. Can someone please give me there opion on such a setup for\nrunning NT and is the Operating System likely to be better than Windows or \nUnix's.\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"[...]\n\nAw, c'mon.  The serious overreaction ought to be worth a couple of points,\nnot to mention the bit condemning everthing the flamee might ever say.\nThe non sequitur about guns and helmets is just the proper flourish.\n\nI personally am of the opinion that there are two types of good flames.\nThe first does trade ``quality,'' in the sense you mention, for heat.\nThis has a certain surprise value and if done correctly, which I\ncontend was done above, is reasonably entertaining.  While it is true that\nthe flame I posted does not mention anyone's habitual velocity, friends,\ndinner, or entertainment, it says what it needs to with the appropriate\nflair and it is short.  The weakness of this type of flame is actually\nthat it can easily be taken too far, at which point it becomes trite and\nboring.  (Witness the Infante thread recently....)\n\nThe other type of flame, which you seem to be glorifying above, has\na few weaknesses as well.  In the first place, it can get verbose and \ntedious in the extreme, particularly if the reader does not already strongly\nidentify with one side or the other.  In the second, discussing someone's\npersonal qualities, habits, and so forth can quickly become libelous.\n(Or is that slanderous?  I can never remember the difference.)  This leads\nto a proliferation of lawyers, which is widely regarded as a BAD THING.\nFinally, introducing polysyllabic words is problematic.  I can't haul my\nbig dic. around on my bike, and it would be bad form to use a word which\nactually turned out to have a meaning, especially one which ran counter\nto my use and flamage in general.\n\nIn summary, Blaine, your score for that flame is incorrect.  While it may\nbe the wunder-flame, the weaknesses you point out are not necessarily\nweaknesses, and your suggested corrections are not always useful nor\napplicable.  You also probably couldn't outrun a tennis ball with a\nflatulent dog stapled to your posterior, and I'll bet you and your \nmotorcycle lean to the outside while turning.  The same goes for anyone\nwho looks like you, too.\n\n\n-----\nTommy McGuire\nmcguire@cs.utexas.edu\nmcguire@austin.ibm.com","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"New plotters, 2 of 'em, straight out of the box, but docs have all been  \nlost...\n\nmake offer, COD shipping...","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nIf that \"culture\" referred to is Israeli, being anti-zionist can be seen\nas a complete denial of that entity's right to exist and its \"legitimacy\". \nJust as saying that Islam has *no right* to establish and implement a \n\"state\" that includes any non-muslims, both are *absolute*, one-dimensional \nviews of that culture with regard to the issue of \"state\".\n\n\nIf that were the case, one would expect a few of that culture's positives\nto be discussed with regard to the issue at hand. Since the issue *centers*\non Israeli culture, I have yet to hear of *any* positives of that culture\nin this discussion.\n\n\nI agree with you. But I also feel that when a culture feels it is confronted \nby another group that wishes to see that culture \"disassembled\", the first\nculture has little choice but to *try* to secure its \"survival\" as well as\nmaintain its moral center. Since the culture is not about to turn away\nfrom *either* the matter of its survival or the valuing of its moral \nprinciples, it has the virtually impossible job of \"balancing\". \n\nTo discuss Israel's faults and \"crimes\" without *any* recognition of this\ncircumstance and *reality* it faces is a conscious decision based on the \ndiscussant's political biases, NOT on an honest and empathetically open \nunderstanding of the situation. The same applies to those who attempt to \npaint the Palestinian movement as \"all bad\" and dispense with considerations \nof the *reality* facing them.\n\nYou beg the question by centering on the symptoms while the issue\nof \"self-hating\" addresses the motivations. I certainly feel that\nanyone who expends so much effort inflating, distorting and robbing\nhuman context from aspects of his\/her own culture is reflecting\na degree of dislike for it. Since bits of that culture are bound, \ndue to his\/her upbringing, to be a part of him\/her, a bit of self-\ndislike seems likely to be mixed in somewhere.\n\nAs you well know, this process of *blaming the other* for the morally\nquestionable actions one side is forced (by the \"other\", of course) to \ntake is thoroughly practiced by **both sides**. If you are only hearing\nthe pro-Israeli crowd's self-supporting arguments, that may be due to\nthe fact that you are not listening for anything else. *I* certainly\nhear the similarly distorting pro-Palestinian\/pro-Arab element in\n*this* newsgroup (as well as in soc.culture.arabic).\n\n\nI agree, agree, agree, agree.\n\nHowever, in my response to the initial discussion above between Davidsson\nand those opposing his presentations, I saw Davidsson carefully putting \nacademic frills around a blatantly one-sided series of I-hate\/dislike-\n\"them\", yesIdo,yesIdo,yesIdo. I did *not* find the approach of those \nopposing Davidsson to be centered *at all* on a denigration and denial\nof the \"other side\". \n\nI certainly do wonder if the degree to which Davidsson's views on the \nMiddle East have distorted is connected to his dislike and rejection\nof his jewish lineage. Having said this, however, I agree with you that \nthis constant accusing others of being \"self-hating\" jews seems\npointless. It is not worse a label than is \"why, you're on their side\",\nexcept to perhaps imply a certain degree of overly enthusiastic \nbiasedness.\n\nTim\n\n \n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\nPresumably the B-D did not mount a continuous state of alert with gunmen\nready to fire on people who casually walked up to ring the doorbell.\n\nOnce inside the building the BATF would have been in control. Trained\npolice officers are a match to any bunch of Bozos playing at soldiers.\n\n\n\nNot a smart move. Unless meant to be part of the surprize cover. Even so\nthe narrow opening of the trucks simply was not a good idea. A side opening\ntruck would have been much better, more like a covered waggon.\n\n\n\nSounds just about right to me. Its the minimum amount of force that I\nwould consider necessary to serve a warrant on the talk.politics.guns\nannual dinner.\n\nMichael Hesseltine ordered the use of over 5000 crack troops including\nmembers of the parachute regiment to remove approx 250 hippy peace\nprotestors on a site where they wanted to install cruise missiles. He\neven turned up in a flack jacket to monitor the proceedings. Just about the\nmost dangerous tool the women possesed was a tin opener. That single\naction probably cost him the position as Prime Minister. One of the elders\nof my church got arrested in that heroic action by the forces of Toryism.\nHesseltine ever after was something of a national joke.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":": \n: >A friend of mine called me on the phone and told me he was wathcing CNN\n: >and saw a report that the ruling prohibiting AMD from selling their i486\n: >clones has been thrown out, making it legal for AMD to ship in the US.\n: \n: Yep, this was on the news.  Great news for consumers.  Bad news\n: for Intel.  \n\nTheir stock dropped quite a chunk with the announcement.\n\n--","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"(Dear Moderator: Would you add this to the BCC faq?)\n\nIn case there are any ex-members of the \"Boston Church of Christ\"\nlooking for a support organization, here's the number of \"BostonEX\" in\nBurlington, MA: 617-272-1955.\n\n--------\n\ns.r.c readers in New England may be interested in seeing a series of\nnews reports about the BCC in the 6 pm nightly news on Channel 5\n(WCVB, Boston), for the next few days (starting Wed, 5\/19).","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nOther than getting a 32-bit clean ROM, what other features would a IIci\nROM in a IIx provide, if any?\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Lovely arguments.  But do we write about historical ownership of any\nplace - Palestine, Pakistan, Cyprus, Aegean Islands (and the oil that\nmay lie beneath them), whatever - for any reason other than\njustification for stomping others?\n\nDOES IT TRULY MATTER whose ancestor lived where 20, 200, or 2000 years\nago?  More than how you treat the land and each other?\n\nWho is wise enough to decree that a person's right to life, liberty\nand pursuit of happiness in a particular place depends on accidents of\nbirth?  Who can even be sure about the precise tracks of the sperm\nthat birthed the people we wish to despise?\n\nIMHO, the American Indians have it right.  We belong to the earth, it\ndoes not belong to us.  Failure to understand that is a good way to\ncause lossage all the way around.  My guess is that once we trash our\nenvironment sufficiently we shall die along with it - the baby eating\nand killing its mother, then dying for lack of milk.\n\nDeath and disease do not respect national boundaries, not as toxins,\ndisease vectors,  lost farmland\/wetlands\/forest cover\/water supplies,\nnor any other way.  When we fight over which national group owns which\npiece of turf, we are merely contending for the best vantage point\nfrom which to kill others, \"our\" land and eventually ourselves.\n\nThat is something of which to be proud.  Very proud.  Makes me glad to\nbe human.\n\n\nI'm not mindlessly rejecting all nationalism.  Maybe it's fair to ask\nwhether a recent immigrant deserves a share of the infrastructure that\nall _my_ ancestors (hah!) labored to produce.  But it's an artificial\ndistinction: is the recent immigrant, even a refugee, less likely to\ncontribute to the next generation's legacy than anyone else?  [In\nhistory the reverse is often the case: recent immigrants strive\nhardest.  If nothing else, they fill open eco(l\/n)ogic niches.]\n\nThen again, my tribe is infinitely better than your tribe, so I can\nunderstand you all have nothing but plot to knock me off.  While I, of\ncourse, will make sure it doesn't happen, even if I must shoot Muslim\ninfants (or bash Jewish ones against the walls of schoolhouses) to do\nso.  That'll prove my moral superiority, by golly, as well as the\nrightness of my cause.\n\n\nClearly, there is no higher purpose in life than killing others\nbecause they are not like you.  I would never get in the way of such\nfun.\n\nLet's see:  \n\tsoc.culture.turkish - Why don't you Turks go back to Lake\n\t\tBaikal where you came from, and leave the land to the\n\t\tGreeks, who stole it fair and square from the\n\t\tScythians?\n\tsoc.culture.pakistan - Why don't you guys redistribute\n\t\tyourselves over India, as God meant for you to do?\n\tsoc.culture.jewish, soc.culture.arabic - we stick together,\n\t\tfight together, die together.  We are brothers, and\n\t\tinseparable.\n\ttalk.politics.mideast - oh well, had to be there.\n\nOded\n[Planning on being a Scythian irredentist, as soon as I finish my\npresent assignment.]\n\n\nP.S.:\tI can't get a semi-decent death threat anymore?","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n:   I am curious about knowing which commericial cars today\n: have v engines.\n\n: V4 - I don't know of any.\n: V6 - Legend, MR3? MR6?\n: V8 - Don't know of any.\n: V12 - Jaguar XJS\n\n\n:  Please add to the list.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nAt all times in human history, people have killed and stolen from one\nanother.  If you can find an example of where this hasn't happened in\nhistory, then you have discovered a new phenomenon in nature.\n\nIt is pointless asking whether people \"should\" do this;\nthey DO do this.  It has just evolved that way.  Humans have evolved to\nhave this characteristivc.  You can debate whether this should be\nparticular matter should be left up to the individual or not, but it is\nthe nature of humans to kill and steal from others and you will not find\na single counterexample (of a society without these types) in nature.\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------\nPlease find a better argument than that's the way it has always been.\nChild mortality has always been, yet we find it in our hearts to have\nmade an attempt to change that.  ","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nI disagree.  In the end, the *individual* is responsible for his\/her own\nirrationality.  The individual's belief in some dogmatic religion is a \nsymptom of that irrationality.\n\n\nAtheists and agnostics, I would imagine, but yes, that was my point.  An\natheist would theoretically be just as ill-equipped to study the philosophy\nof religion as a Christian, and yet there is a persistence of atheists\namong the ranks of philosophers.  Therefore, the conflict between one's\nreligious beliefs (or lack thereof) and the ability to be a philosopher\nmust not be as great as you assert.  The fact that most philosophers may\nbe non-religious was a secondary point.\n\n\n\nAs opposed to science practiced by theists?  Be careful here.\n\nScience does have a built-in defence against faith and dogma:\nskepticism.  Unfortunately, it is not foolproof.  There is that \nwonderful little creature known as the \"theory.\"  Many of us believe in\nthe theory of evolution.  We have no absolute proof that this \ntheory is true, so why do we believe it?  Because it \"makes more \nsense than...?\"  There is quite a bit of faith involved here.\n\n\n\nWell, not ALL current beliefs are deficient, but basically I agree.\n\n\n\nIdeally, this is true.  In reality, though, you have to acknowledge\nthat scientists are human.  Scientists have egos and biases.  Some\nscientists assume a particular theory is true, refuse to admit the\nflaws in that theory because of ego problems or whatever, and proceed\nto spend their time and money trying to come up with absolute proof \nfor the theory.  Remember cold fusion?\n\n\n\nNot really.  I agree that we spent far too much money on the Waco\ncrisis ($7,500,000 I believe), especially considering the outcome.\nMy point was that mass suicides in the U.S. are rare (Jonestown was\nin Guyana, incidentally, although we footed the bill for the clean-up),\nand the U.S. has far more important issues to address.  Compare the\nnumber of U.S. citizens who have died in mass suicides with, say, the\nnumber of U.S. soldiers who died during one week of the Vietnam War and\nyou will see my point.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Could anyone post the game summary for the Sabres-Bruins game.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"an image of the moon has been caught in a weather satellite images of the earth.\nit appears in both the 0430-1500UT ir and visual images of the earth.\nthe GIF images can be down loaded from vmd.cso.uiuc.edu and are named\nCI043015.GIF and CV043015.GIF for the IR and visual images respectively.\n\npretty cool pictures;  in the ir it's saturated but in the visual image\ndetails on the moon are viewable.\n\nthe moon is not in the 1400UT images.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nIt was Clint Malarchuk's neck cut by Uwe Krupp's skate.  I know it happened in\nBuffalo, but I can't tell you against whom.\n\nKrupp was defending an opposing attacker charging the net.\n\nMalarchuk became the fourth goalie (behind Hasek, Puppa and Draper) after\nsuffering from Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder.  He's been playing in San Diego\nfor former Sabre coach Rick Dudley.\n\nKrupp is now playing for the Islanders after the LaFontaine\/Turgeon trade.\n\nWhat do I win?  =)\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nWhat version of WinFAX do you have?  The newest version (3.0) has an OCR\n(Optical Character Recognition) built in... what this means is that it can\ntake a fax (ie, a letter) and convert it into ASCII so that one can edit\nthe document w\/o re-typing it... However, I found that the OCR that comes\npackaged with WINFAX does not work as well as OMNIpage Professional (also\nby Delrina software)... So, once again, WinFAX ver. 3.0 has what you are\nlooking for... Good luck!\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":": Wasn't the shareware fee a \"suggestion\" by John?\n: Is so then it's up to the individual to make the choice whether or not to\n: honour it and part with money.  Personally if I was in his position I would\n: do exactly the same thing, John has obviously put in lot of time and effort\n: into xv and why shouldn't he receive some money for it.\n\n: Just my pennies worth\n\n: (Keep up the good work John)\n\nYeah I agree..I am very impressed by the kind of effort that has gone into\nthe lastest release...some people are just looking for excuses to gripe..\nI personally feel that the work is worth much more that $25...after seeing\nthe kind of things people get paid for..","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nThis makes perfect sense if you think about it.\n\nCheap food and cheap movies on the cheapest format.  You feel full, but\nthe \"nutritional quality\" just ain't there. :-)\n\n  Feast a little...buy Beta!\n\nGreg\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n                         ED-Beta: Simply THE BEST!\n\"ED Beta is simply the best consumer videotape format available.\"\n                                     --VIDEO Magazine, Nov. 1992, page 30.\n\n\"Manufacturers may have a point when they perceive the U.S. consumer\nelectronics market as unsophisticated.\"\n                                     --VIDEOMAKER,  March 1993, page88","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":": \n: (Why do ALL  postings from bnr seem to have bogus addresses? \n: Both \n: \tgstovall@crchh67.NoSubdomain.NoDomain\n: and \n: \tgstovall@bnr.com\n: bounce....\n: \n: This makes it rather difficult to reply....)\n\nThey go through UUNET. This is often the problem - as UUNET often has\nproblems with return paths.\n\n... deleted ...\n\n: Oh, and most importantly, no amount of transmitted RF, short of a\n: transmitter the size of small house, is likely to cause the equipment\n: failures you describe. So you are looking at two different problems.\n\nYep.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\nCould some kind soul please e-mail me a copy of the pinout for the serial\nconnector on an ImageWriter II printer?  We have one that we'd like to hook\nup to a PC, and it seems that nobody sells the proper cables anymore.  No\nproblem -- I can make one, but I need to know the pinout first.\n\nThanks in advance.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\tWhat's sort of interesting about this whole thread is just how much\nit has in common with similar threads in groups dealing with other vendor's\nhardware.  I currently deal basically with hardware from 3 vendors - Apple,\nDEC, and SGI - and thus tend to monitor the groups about those vendor's\nhardware.  Currently, it seems like SGI customers are pissed at SGI about\ndropping support for the Personal Iris, DEC customers are pissed at DEC for\ndropping MIPS support in favor of the new Alpha boxes, and Apple customers\nseem to get pissed every time a new Mac is introduced that's faster and\ncheaper than the one they just bought.  When I used to be a Sun customer\nyears ago, I remember people being pissed at Sun for leaving their 386\nand 680x0 customers out in the cold when Sparc came along.\n\n\tWhat's really interesting is that from what I can tell, the MIS\nfolks in the basement with their ES\/9000 don't seem to be pissed at IBM.\nWhy?  I have no idea.  Either IBM really does take care of their customers\nbetter, or they just have their customers brainwashed better than the\nsmaller vendors do.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I am running System 7.1 on a Centris 610. I have not been able to setup my\nprinter yet because when I open Chooser, I get a blank screen. I do have all\nkinds of print drivers but none shows up. I even do not get a port iconn\neither. It is just one big BLANK screen.\n\nYour help is very appreciated. \nBTW I did rebuild the desktop but that did not help either.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":" \n \n \n       The BATF got sat on pretty early on.  After the initial shooting\nwas over, it pretty much become the FBI's show.  (Even that BATF guy\nstopped showing up next to the speaker at the daily press conferences).\n ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nLet's save some bandwidth, skip the intermediate articles and go\nstraight to the Nazis and Hitler :-)\n\n(we do have wall sockets, thank you, and they're better than yours)","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"or so days.\nincident\nYou seem to make two points.  No one ultimately oversees the federal agencies  \nyou mention, and since Koresh \"apparently\" has a different view point from your  \nBaptist upbringing, then he is not worthy of protection from religious  \npersecution.  As to being the Messiah, is not Christ within us all?\n\nMust be comforting to belong to a government approved religion.\n\nBaptists are a cult, two, BTW, under most of the definitions in the dictionary  \nof \"cult\".\n\nJim\n--\njmd@handheld.com","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Evolution of SCO newsgroups and Mailing Lists\n              ---------------------------------------------\n   \n   Many readers enjoyed the opportunity to obtain and contribute useful\n   information on SCO Open Desktop since 1990 through the ancestral USENET\n   newsgroup sco.opendesktop or it's companion mailing list.  Similarly,\n   there was a demonstrated need for an information and discussion forum\n   for SCO products in general.\n   \n   With the increasing demand for accessibility and for additional SCO\n   newsgroups, many current contributors including those who have been\n   active in circulating SCO related newsgroups and mailing lists felt\n   that the readership would be best served by creating a biz.sco.*\n   hierarchy to improve propagation (and hence availability) worldwide.\n\n   biz.sco.{opendesktop,general,announce} were newgrouped May 1, 1991 in\n   accordance with accepted procedure within \"biz\".  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{"text":"Does anyone know how to reset the service indicator of a BMW after changing\nthe oil yourself?\n\nAlso, I have about 3,000 miles on my 525i and so far only one of the five\nyellow service indicators went out. That means I don't need oil service until\nit reach approximatly 15,000 miles which doesn't make sense to me. Any idea?\n\nPS of cause I did my first oil change at 1,200 miles \n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nHere's something to add to the discussion:\n\nNewsgroups: misc.activism.progressive\nFrom: \"James P. Reynolds\" <jpr1@lehigh.edu>\nSubject: When you're not using it, turn it off!\nDate: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 06:50:14 GMT\nLines: 53\n\nResearch has shown that the majority of the time that the United\nStates' 30 to 35 million personal computers are on, they are not\nactively being used.  In addition, 30 to 40 percent are left running\nat night and on weekends.\n\nComputer equipment is now the fastest growing private-sector use\nof electricity.  Computers alone are believed to account for five\npercent of commercial electricity consumption, and may account for\nten percent by the year 2000.\n\nIf you are one of those who leave them on after you're done, it\nwould be a big environmental benefit if you would just TURN IT OFF\nwhen you're not using it.  It only takes a second or two to do.\n\nAlso, the majority of the power your computer uses is not consumed\nby the computer itself, but by the monitor.  If you can't turn the\ncomputer off, then please just TURN OFF THE MONITOR.\n\nThe U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has formed an alliance\nwith computer manufacturers to promote the introduction of energy-\nefficient PCs that \"power down\" automatically when not being used\nand thus reduce the air pollution caused by power generation.  These\nnew computers will save enough electricity to power both Vermont and\nNew Hampshire and save up to 1 billion U.S. dollars in annual\nelectricity bills.  Look for the special EPA \"Energy Star\" logo when\nyou buy computers.  They should be available in one to two years.\n\nAccording to the EPA studies, the energy saved will prevent CO2\nemissions of 20 million tons annually, the equivalent of five million\nautomobiles.  Also, 140,000 tons of SO2 and 75,000 tons of nitrogen\noxide emissions will be saved; these are the major pollutants\nresponsible for acid rain.\n\nPlease do your part ... be responsible.  If you're not using it,\nthen just TURN IT OFF.\n\n- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -\n\nInformation herein is partially taken from the 1993 \"Information\nPlease\" Almanac, page 573, and the U.S. Envirnomental Protection\nAgency's \"Environmental News.\"\n\nPlease redistribute this message to every computer bulletin board,\nnetwork, memo system, etc. you can think of.  Archive it and post\nit every so often if you can.  Let's get the word out to everyone.\nWe need to be responsible about the way we consume.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I recently bought a PLI 21mgbyte floptical drive, and I was very happy \nwith it until I tried to use it to format a 1.4 HD diskette. I put the\nHD floppy in my Superdrive to check that the floptical had formatted it\ncorrectly, and now my Superdrive refuses to recognize ANY floppy (it says\n\"this disk is unreadable\" and asks if I want to format it) even original\nsystems floppies from Apple. Nor will it format the disks if I try to\n(\"initialization failed!\")  Strangely enough the floptical still reads\nboth the 21 MB and 1.4 HD disks, but I cant look at my 800k floppies, and\nif I have a crash I'm screwed because the Floptical can't be used as a\nstart-up disk.  PLI has been unresponsive.  Any ideas? Has this happened\nto anyone before? I was looking for an inexpensive storage solution, and\nnow I am looking at an expensive repair.  Help! respond to this thread, or\nemail mfeldman@acs.bu.edu\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"The good news is we just got two Sparc10's. The bad news is\nthat \/dev\/cgtwelve0 is apparently not supported in X11R4 or\nX11R5. Does anyone know of a patch (and how I can obtain it)\nto either X version that will enable us to use X11 on our\nSparc10's? ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nI am the original owner of the seats and the original poster. \nI take VERY serious offence in your statement. \nI see a lot of computers advertized on the net, and my friend just had been\nreleived of his machine = all the net-computer ads are for stolen computers?\nWhere did you learn logic?\n\nAs for the seats, they were replaced by a much harder (literally) Celica GTS\nseats due to my back problem. That is why I had to reuse the MR2 brackets\nand that's why the MR2 seats I sell are attached to Celica brackets.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Thanks for the letter, your comments helped some.\n\nAs to the last comment, I certainly realize that it was not intended to\nsound that way.  I am still trying to understand *how* a spiritual being\ncolud truly be one and three at the same time.  All of the descriptions\nof this are either Platonic or sound like special pleading (sort of,\n\"they appear to be three seperate beings in all ways, but really they are\none, trust me\").\n\nNeither of these is acceptible to me.\n\nThe fact is, so far the only descriptions of the trinity that makes any\n*sense* to me are the modalistic ones, such as Modalistic Monarchianism\nor \"Economic Trinitarianism\".  [I can accept that the three aspects are\nintrinsic to the nature of God, so I perhaps lean more towards the latter].\n\nI am trying, here, to see if anybody can come up with another description\nthat is both orthodox and believable.\n\n-- \nsarima@teradata.com\t\t\t(formerly tdatirv!sarima)\n  or\nStanley.Friesen@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I know that alot of how people think and act in a long distance space project\nwould be much like old tiem explorers, sailors, hunters and such who spent alot\nof time alone, isolated, and alone or in minimal surroundings and sopcial\ncontacts.. Such as the old arctic and antarctic expeditions and such..\n\nI vote for a later on sci.space.medicine or similar newsgroup fro the\ndiscussion of long term missions into space and there affects on humans and\nsuch..","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Sorry for the frequency of the posting (I'm in a time crunch).\nI'm selling my toys so I can afford a house :_(\n\n\n-Amiga 4000\/040\n  -25 MHz 68040 (built in FPU\/MMU)\n  -18 megs of RAM, 2 megs of video RAM, expandable to 2 gigabytes\n  -A2091 SCSI controller\n  -Fujitsu 520M 3.5\" SCSI drive, 12ms, 3 years warranty\n  -1 year of on-site service remaining\n  -$3000 OBO\n\n-Epson ES300C full page 600DPI, 24 bit color scanner w\/sware and ADPro loader\n  -software (standalone and ADPro loader)\n  -docs\n  -cable\n  -$850\n\n-Supra FAXmodem V.32 bis, 14.4K, latest ROMs\n  -$205\n\n-SCSI CD-ROM drive, 400ms, internal\n  -$225\n  \n-Mitsubishi DiamondScan AUM1371 14\" multisync 15-38 KHz, 30-90Hz\n  -analog RGB, TTL, video inputs\n  -$275\n\n-All of the above, $3900 OBO ($2000 less than original)\n\n\n-Amiga 2500\/040 Toaster system\n  -Amiga 2500\n  -Zeus 28MHz 68040 (FPU and MMU built in), 1 year warranty\n  -16 megs of RAM\n  -1 meg of video memory\n  -Quantum PRODRIVE 100, 100M SCSI drive\n  -2 Personal TBC II, time base correctors (S-video and composite), docs, sware\n  -Video Toaster 2.0 with lots of fonts and objects and ToasterVision\n  -ToasterVision, AREXX sequencing, Toaster croutons, framestore compress, ...\n  -instructional video\n  -SCSI CD-ROM drive\n  -Sony SLVR5UC SVHS VCR, new, warranty,\n  -2 A1080 color RGB\/composite\/YC monitors\n  -Pioneer video disc player, CLD980, RF in\/out, composite out\n    -rock solid sync generator, multi-format video disc players, CD\n  -$6900 OBO\n\nI will parcel this stuff out if necessary (please send offers :_(\n\n\n-Meade 826C 8\" Newtonian reflector telescope\n  -8\" aperture, f\/6\n  -very heavy duty mount\n  -clock drive\n  -dual axis corrector with joystick and AC or DC drive\n  -fiberglassed tube for a bit more strength\n  -2 finder scopes\n    -1 8X50mm finder scope\n    -1 60mm finder scope with diagonal holder and 9mm eyepiece\n  -2\" barrel for 2\" eyepieces (includes adapter for 1.25\" eyepieces)\n  -1 25mm 1.25\" eyepiece\n  -1 9mm or 7mm 1.25\" eyepiece, take your pick, both for $30 more\n  -manuals\n  -it needs to be collimated, but is otherwise in superb condition\n  -$775  (I'd really prefer to sell locally due to its size)\n\n-Maxtor 8760S, 680 meg (formatted), 5.25\" FH, 16ms\n  -$625\n  -$695 in Sun shoebox\n\n-All software listed below is for the Amiga.  Comes with boxes, diskettes,\n manuals and in many cases are unopened, containing registration cards.\n\n-Mean 18 golf\n  -$10\n\n-Greg Norman's Shark Attack\n  -$10\n\n-Superstar Ice Hockey\n  -$10\n\n-Jack Nicklaus\n  -$10\n\n-Microbot 3D Design Disk\n  -$10\n\n-PGA tour golf\n  -$10\n\n-Renegade\n  -$10\n\n-Balance of Power\n  -$10 \n\n-World Trophy Soccer\n  -$10 \n\n-Waterloo\n  -$10 \n\n-Omni Play Basketball\n  -$10 \n\n-All above software:  $65\n\n-Cadence treadmill\n  -used for about 1 month\n  -manual\n  -LCD panel\n  -built in computer\n  -must sell locally due to size\n  -bought for $700\n  -asking $190\n\n\nThis A2500 posted for a friend: (please email him at 7MQK@um.cc.umich.edu)\n-Amiga 2500\/030, 5 megs RAM, 40M SCSI drive, SCSI controller, A1084 monitor\n  -$1200 OBO\n\n                        Thanks, Ralph\n\n(313) 677-3086, please call after 6:00pm, or send email (best way to reach me)\n\nrps@arbortext.com    gilgalad@dip.eecs.umich.edu","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n:                                                               Consequently,\n: this verse indicates that she was without sin.  Also, as was observed at\n: the very top of this post, Mary had to be free from sin in order to be the\n: mother of Jesus, who was definitely without sin.\n\nIf the mother of Jesus had to be without sin in order to give\nbirth to God, then why didn't Mary's mother have to be without\nsin in order to give birth to the perfect vessel for Jesus?  For\nthat matter, why didn't Mary's grandmother have to be without sin\neither?  Seems to me that with all the original sin flowing\nthrough each person, the need for the last one (Mary) to have\nnone puts God in a box, where we say that He couldn't have\nincarnated Himself through a normal human being.\n\nMy God is an all powerful God, Who can do whatever suits His\npurpose.  This includes creating a solar system and planet earth\nwith the appearance of great age; providing a path through the\nRed Sea for the children of Israel that does not depend on the\nexistence of a ridge of high ground and a wind blowing at the\nright speed and direction; and the birth of Himself from a normal\nsinful person without being tainted by her original sin.\n\nI see far too much focus on the \"objects\" of religion and not\nnearly enough on the personal relationship that is available to\nall believers with the Author of our existence, without the\nnecessity of having this relationship channeled through conduits\nto God in the form of Mary, Apostles and a Pope.\n\n: Note that the idea of Mary being conceived without Original Sin, i.e. the\n: Immaculate Conception, is distinct from the idea of Mary not having sinned\n: during her lifetime, which is a separate doctrine and, I believe, also\n: held by the Catholic Church.\n\nIf Mary was born without original sin, and didn't sin during her\nlifetime, how is she any different from Jesus?  This means the\nworld has had two perfect humans:  one died to take away the sins\nof the world;  the other gave birth to Him?  I would certainly\nwant to see some scriptural support for this before I would start\npraying to anyone other than God.  Everything I have ever read\nfrom the bible teaches me that Jesus was and is the only sinless\nLamb of God, not His mother, grandmother........\n\n: Hope this is useful to you.\n\nVery useful in helping me understand some of the RC beliefs.\nThank you.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nOkay, I see smilies, so this isn't supposed to be a serious post.\nOn the other hand, I would suppose it does has some motivation behind\nit. Apparently the idea is to poke fun at religion, but there is \npresumably some sort of reasoning behind it. As an argument, this \nstatement is worthless. Presuming the Qur'an is a perfect religious \ntext (whatever that might be) there is still plenty of room for \ndisagreement about its implications for issues far from essentials.\n\nI've already responded to the question of how a judgment might be made\nbetween two people who in fact _do_ disagree about Islam, which doesn't\npresume anything about the Qur'an other than its having sufficient\nclarity for all important disputes about the basic principles of\nIslam. This hardly constitutes a claim that no two people could have\ndisagreements about _all_ issues relevant to Islam.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":": ==============================================================================\n: Could someone please tell me the Best FTP'able viewer available for MSDOS\n: I am running a 486 33mhz with SVGA monitor.\n: I need to look at gifs mainly and it would be advantageous if it ran\n: under windows...........thanks\n\nFTP to wuarchive.wustl.edu,\nchange into mirrors\/msdos\/graphics\nget \"grfwk61t.zip\"\nThis is the DOS version of Graphic Workshop.  There is a Windows version which\nyou could probably find in the mirrors\/msdos\/windows3 directory but I don't \nknow what the file name is. \n\n-- ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"As of today's USA Today (4\/23) John Wetteland should come off of the DL\ntonight and possibly pitch in the series this weekend (I forget who they play.)\nDerek Lilliquist is probably going to be the main closer, but it will be kind\nof a bullpen by committee also.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nIt's called 'contractual obligations' with Major League Baseball.\nI would've liked to see the OT of the Isles-Caps game, but I understand\nwhere ESPN is coming from. ESPN is committed to a single telecast a night\nand everything after that is a bonus.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nIs that the number of \"left\" legs, or both left and right?","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nPlease see the post I made yesterday (May 10) which fixes the problem.\nThis was posted to comp.windows.x.apps.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n   From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>\n   Subject: Zionism - racism\n\n\n   Diaspora 'a cancer'\n   ------------------- by Julian Kossoff and Lindsay Schusman in:\n   Jewish Chronicle, London, 22. Dec. 1989\n\n   Leading Israeli author and cultural commentator, A.B. Yehoshua,\n   launched a ferocious attack on diaspora Jewry at a Zionist Youth\n   Council meeting in North London, last week.\n\n   The diaspora, he claimed, \"was the cancer connected to the main\n   tissue of the Jewish people\". He was scathing about its failure to\n   act before the Holocaust.\n\n\n   [ deleted for bravity ]\n\n\n   Jewish values in Israel embraced every aspect of daily life,\n   unlike in the diaspora, where Jews had no responsibility for the\n   country they lived in, he said.\n\n   He warned that modern Hebrew, a unifying force for the Jewish\n   people, would have to struggle for its future, especially in\n   literary circles. It faced fierce competition from the English\n   language.\n\n   -------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nSo?\n\n--Amos","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"After looking at the scaling code I realized the follwing:\n\n  1) My problem with the resolution 100x100 foints is due to an installation \n     problem.\n\n  2) That the X server or font server will rescale the best font it can find\n     to meet your requirements.  \n\n     This means that if you server return a response like the following\n\n     -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--0-0-75-75-p-0-iso8859-1\n\n     You can ask for the follwogin:\n\n        -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--14-100-90-90-p-0-iso8859-1\n \n     and it will generate it for you.  You should try to always use \n     known pixel sizes.  ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nI disagree with what to tout, although I agree that the space program is\ninherently a good thing.  Most people today only care about \"what will it\ncost me?\" and \"what's in it for me?\" and could care less about whether\nsomething is simply worthwhile in and of itself.  Our society has become\nincreasingly geared toward the short-term (which you could read as NOW!). \nThey couldn't care less about next week, much less next century.  They want\nsomething to show for the expenditure and they want it *now*.\n\nI think we *should* tell them about the things that they are using now that\nare spinoffs of the space program.  That is the only way you can *prove*\nits worth to *them* - and they vote and pay taxes too.  The continued\nexistence of the space program relies upon that money.\n\njust my $.02\n\nBTW: don't forget Velcro...","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nOops, forgot the phone number.  It's 1-800-377-8287.\n\n\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nWho said it was dead. It seems to be alive and well here on the net.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nThis is too often true.  Many people try to place this as a \"higher\"\nsin.  However...\n\n\nA big part of the problem is that many of the homosexuals and people\nadvocating acceptance of homosexuality in churches do not consider\n(active) homosexuality a sin.  I don't often see the attitude of\n\"forgive me and I will try to change\".  Instead I see \"there's nothing\nwrong with my life and I can be a good Christian, so it must be you who\nhave an illness because you don't accept me\".  Christians can and will\naccept homosexuals, just as they will accept *any* sinner.\n\nSure, it may be natural to some people to be homosexual - but it\nis also perfectly natural for everyone to sin!  I was born with\na desire to sin, but I work to prevent myself from sinning.  It's\nmuch less common now, but I *still* have urges to lash out in\nanger.  There also may not be a sudden disappearance of sinful\ndesires (or ever!), so it is sad to see people leave the church\nwhen they are discouraged that they are still homosexual after\nseveral years.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"OK, many people emailed me asking for information on Congruent Corporation's\nproduct which allows X\/Motif unix applications to function on Windows NT.\nToday I was sent a telephone number by a kind person by the name of Sam (I'd\ngive better attribution, but the mail is in a different application on VMS :-()\n\nThe number to call in New York City is (212)431-5100\n\nThe email address is info@congruent.com\n\nThe product is NTNIX.\n\nOther details I do not know.\n\nThey said they'd send me email info, but as yet it has not arrived. More\nas I get it. Cheers Folks!\n-- \nsnail@lsl.co.uk      ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Hi, there!\nI have a MAC LC and consider buying CD300. I've been told,\nhowever, that:\n1. The double speed of CD300 is achievable only on machines\n   with SCSI-2.\n2. The double speed is a prerequisite for PhotoCD multisession\n   capability, which I need.\n3. Which means I seem to gain nothing compared with, say CD150.\n\nAny comments?\nThanx.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n     Good. Another liberal converted by Waco!  If Dave had had something\n     realistic, there would have been none of this \"Bradley\" vehicle\n     crap.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nAs I recall from reading posts here a while back, Rovax (Rovacs?) died\nbecause it was larger and noisier than the competing cheap R12 systems\nof it day.  Probably a case of bad timing.  I think the system would\nhave a better chance today now that R12 systems are on death row, but\ninvestors may be hard to come by a second time.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n > When Elizabeth greeted Mary with the words: \"Blessed art thou\n > among women\" (Luke 1:42), it appears that this places Mary\n > beyond the sanctification of normal humanity.\n\nBut Deborah says (Judges 5:24):\n\n > Blessed among women shall be Jael the wife of Heber the Kenite,\n > Blessed above all women in the tents.\n\nIt can doubtless be taken that Jael's slaying of Sisera was a type\nof Mary's victory over sin. But even if we take Deborah's words as\napplying prophetically or symbolically to Mary, they must still be\napplicable literally to Jael.  We may well take them to mean that\nGod used her as a part of His plan for the deliverance of His\npeople, and that she has this in common with Mary.  But we have no\nreason to suppose that they mean that she was sinless, and thus no\nreason to take the like expression applied to Mary as proof that she\nwas sinless.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"ANP is secreted by the atria in response to increases in fluid volume\nand acts to facilitate sodium and water excretion from the kidneys.\nCan someone tell me the molecular mechanism by which this is done?\n\nPlease email your response\n\nThanks\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n                                   Po'g Mo Thon                              ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Ithaca technical support can be reached at:\n\n     tech_support@ithaca.com\n\nor by phone at:\n \n     510-523-5900\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Does anybody share my opinion that in big-city traffic a bike can be so\nlow-powered that for example it cant accelerate out of trouble when\nnecessary..the \"screwed-down\" versions of bikes sold on the German\nmarket with the different classes of liscence seems to make a lot of\nmiddle aged men putt putt around on 25-40Km\/Hr maschines that are\nconstantle getting in the way of \"real\" traffic!\n\nDoes anybody else have opinions on this topic!?\n\nsnuffy\n\n-- ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I originally posted a complaint about how noisy my PC was. I got several \nuseful suggestions, but 1 was the most seductive: run your PC in silence by \nremoving the fan altogether!\n\nTwo variables: \n1) I always run my PC without the cover, and \n2) I'd be willing to attach a CPU cooler if that would make a difference.\n\nShould I try to run my PC without a fan? I know it sounds like utter folly so \nI'm asking - has anyone done this succesfully? Or tragically? You're answer \nmay save my PC... Thanks.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nThe *fastest* way is to use an X server with shared memory extension. It uses\nshared memory if it is a local X server (hence images don't have to be duplicated),\nand defaults to the regular image routines if either the shared mem extension\nis not available, or if it's  not the localhost.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I heard a friend who just return from NAB from Las Vegas confirm\nthat RealSoft will be releasing a Windows version of REAL-3D 2.0\nthis summer.  He was told that the rendering speed on the DX50 isn't\nas fast as A4000.  However, he was also told that they are switching\nfrom Microsoft C++ to Watcom to gain more speed.  For people who is\nlooking for a powerful 3D animation software for PC.  The wait\nshouldn't be too long.  Real 3D 2.0 is absolutely the most powerful and\nflexible 3D package out there that sells for less than $1000.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Dear fellow Christians,  \n\n\tI had a dinner last night with a bible study group which      \nI am in. We had a discussion about the difference between Christianity\nand Islam. And I was shocked to hear that our bible study teacher\nsaid that Mohammad was indeed a prophet but of Satan. I said, \"What??\"\nI did not believe that, because I have some moslem friends who are\nso kind and  nice, even sometimes I feel I wish I could be like them\n(in my point of view, they don't sin as much as I do). How come if they\nwere under Satan, they could have such personalities. \n\nTo tell you the truth, I don't know much about Islam.\nBut I know that they believe in God, they believe in the day of\njudgement.\n\t\n\tNow I'm  asking you what your opinions about Islam and \nits teaching. \n\nIMPORTANT : I do not want to discuss whether they are saved or not.\n\t    I do not want to discuss about politic related to Islam.\n\nP.S: I post this in bit.listserv.christia, soc.religion.christian,\n     and bit.listserv.catholic.\n\n\nIn Christ, our Lord,                           Smile.........\n\t\t\t\t\t       Jesus loves you.......\n\tTabut Torsina\n\tTORSINA@ENUXHB.EAS.ASU.EDU\t   \n\n[Let me start by saying that this is not the right newsgroup for a\ndiscussion of Islam, since there's a group for that.  But I suspect\nthe point your teacher was making was not specifically about Islam.\nIndeed it's going to be impossible to see what he was getting at\nwithin your groundrules, since the question of whether non-Christians\nare saved is at the heart of it.\n\nThe classic Christian view, which I think most people believed until\nthe last century or so, was that Christianity (and of course Judaism)\nwas the only religion founded by God, and that all other religions\nworshipped false gods, and came from Satan.  This is more or less a\ncorollary of another traditional view that no one but Christians (and\npossibly Jews) will be saved.  This need not mean that there's no\ntruth in any other religion, nor that all of their members are\nintentionally Satanic.  After all, in order to be an effective snare,\nSatanic alternatives would have to be attractive.  Thus they might\ncontain all kinds of truth, wisdom and spiritual insights.  They would\nbe missing only one thing -- knowledge of salvation through Christ.\nIf this is the background of your teacher's remarks -- and I suspect\nit is -- that means that a discussion of Islam is not necessarily\nrelevant.  The point is not that there's anything intrinsically wrong\nwith it.  It may teach a fine code of behavior, and its practitioners\nmay all be wonderful people.  But if salvation requires being a\nfollower of Christ, it could still be a Satanic invention.\n\nThis is a reasonable deduction from the classic Protestant position.\nChristianity says that salvation isn't a matter of being kind and\nnice.  Those are good things, and we should encourage them.  But no\none is able to do them enough to be saved.  Salvation requires Christ.\n(Please forgive me for doing this in Protestant terms.  There's a\nCatholic equivalent to this that has similar implications, but in\ndifferent terms.)  A religion may be quite attractive in all visible\nways.  But if it doesn't have Christ, it's like a diet that consists\nof food that looks wonderful, tastes great, but is missing some\nessential food element so that you end up dying.\n\nLet me be clear that I am not specifically advocating this position.\nWhat I'm trying to do is (as usual) to clarify issues.  Indeed it is\nnow relatively uncommon for Christians to believe that all other\nreligions are Satanic.  Most Christians regard such beliefs as an\nunfortunate vestige of the past.  This is part of a general move\nwithin Christianity in the last century or so to a non-judgemental\nGod.  Christians now find it hard to believe that God would allow\nanybody other than a really rotten person to end up in hell, and they\nfind it hard to envision that real malignant spiritual forces are at\nwork in the world doing things like creating superficially attractive\nalternatives to Christianity.  Whether there is actually a sound basis\nfor the shift is a decision that people need to make for themselves.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nWouldn't that make them an I4?  Or would they \nreally be an _4 (henceforth referred to as\n\"underscore 4\")?","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":": \n: Once again, someone else with a Gateway Monitor problem, anyone who can\n: help, please do, it would be much apprieciated.  Thanks in advance.\n: \n: Ok, I have a Local Bus 486\/66 machine, with the Crystal Scan 15inch\n: monitor.  I have 1 meg of loca memory on the ATI ultra pro, w\/ the\n: mach32 driver (the newest release).\n: \n: My problem is in Windows when I use the 1024 mode. I get shadows down\n: the sides of the screens, and very blurry type in the corners.  The\n: types on the screen are all out of focus. I've gotten replacement video\n: cards, and a replacement monitor.  None of that has helped though.\n: Could someone pleae help me with this very frustruating problem.\n\nI have the 1 meg card with the Crystal Scan 15 inch also.  I see very\nfaint shadows on the left side of the screen only in 1024 x 768 mode,\nbut not enough to really bother me.  The characters on the screen\nare clear until I turn on the Crystal Fonts, then they become blurry.\n\nI have a friend who has 2 meg on the video card who has the same shadows,\nbut says the Crystal Fonts are, well, crystal clear.\n\nWe are both using build 59 of the mach32 drivers. Neither of us has a monitor\nextension cable.  I tried the build55 driver and found no difference.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Does X11R5 support the graphics accelerator board\nin the Sun 386i????\n\nThanks in advance.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nThere is a great book out called \"They Also Served\" which is about the \nballplayers during WWII.  There is some info on Berg in there.  It also has \ninfo on Pete Gray (one armed outfielder) and other players of the era.  Because\nof the draft many players during the war were those who were exempt from the\ndraft for medical reasons.  There are some very interesting stories in the\nbook. It is very well written and I would suggest reading it to anyone with an \ninterest in baseball.\n\nRob Koffler\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n        Y'all got the first two reversed.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Which Western states have laws that charge sales tax on the difference between\na new car's price and the trade-in's value?  I know California charges you on \nthe full value of the new vehicle regardless of trade-in.\n\nIf you are a California resident, is it legal to buy a car in a state other than\nCalifornia without also paying California sales tax?  How does California \nenforce any law that requires you to also pay California sales tax (on top of \nthe out-of-state tax)?\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I am curious about knowing which commericial cars today\nhave v engines.\n\nV4 - I don't know of any.\nV6 - Legend, MR3? MR6?\nV8 - Don't know of any.\nV12 - Jaguar XJS\n\n\n Please add to the list.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n   \"Hate the sin but love the sinner\"...I've heard that quite a bit recently, \n   ....  My question is whether that statement is consistent with Christianity.\n   I would think not.\n\n   Hate begets more hate, never love. ....\n\n   In the summary of the law, Christ commands us to love God and to love our \n   neighbors. He doesn't say anything about hate. In fact, if anything, he \n   commands us to save our criticisms for ourselves. ....\n\n   - Scott\n\nI too dislike the phrase \"Hate the sin, love the sinner\".  Maybe the\ndefinite article is also part of the problem, since it seems to give\nus license to fixate on our brother's peculiar pecadillo which we have\nmanaged to escape by a common grace of heredity, economic situation, or\nculture.  Our outrage at evil is too often just a cheap shot.\n\nThat said, I don't think Scott has adequately explored the flip side\nof this coin, namely the love of righteousness.  In the Beatitudes,\nJesus blessed those who hungered and thirsted for righteousness.  In\nthe New Testament, it is never enough just to behave well, one should\nalways actively desire and work for the cause of good.  In that sense,\nit should be impossible to remain dispassionate about evil and its\nvictims, even when these are its accomplices as well.\n\nMaybe \"mourn sin, love sinners\" catches the idea slightly better than\n\"hate\", but only slightly, since grief usually implies a passive\npowerless position.  A balanced Christian response needs grief, love,\nand carefully measured, constructive anger.  Jesus has all three.  The\nEuropean pietists during WWII whose response to Nazi atrocities was\ndevoid of anger do not fare well as role models, however much love or\ngrief they exemplified.\n\nMy sister is an actress in New York and a Christian.  A few years\nback, Jack, her long-time professional friend and benefactor, died of\nAIDS, impoverished by medical bills, estranged from his family, and\nabandoned by most of his surviving friends.  Only my sister and\nbrother-in-law were there with him at the very end.  In her grief over\nJack's death, my sister found quite a few targets for anger: callous\nbureaucracies, the rigid self-protective moralism of Jack's family,\nthe inertia in Christians' response to AIDS, and, yes, even Jack's own\nlapse in morality that eventually cost him his life.  Jack himself\nshared that last anger.  Brought up with strong Christian values, he\nwas contrite over his brief dalliance with promiscuous sex long before\nhis AIDS appeared.  (I imply no moral judgement here about Jack's\ninnate sexual orientation, n.b.)\n\nMaybe the hardest job is making our anger constructive.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I have a Jap. import of One on CD single.\nIt contains:\nOne\nBreadfan\nFor Whom the Bell Tolls (live)\nSanitarium (live)\nOne (demo)\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":" >government maintaining a secret of some kind.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\nNo firearms were ever ever shot at the National Guard at Kent State.\n\nAt the time of the shooting, no rocks were being thrown at all.  The squad was\nslowly proceeding up a knoll, away from the body of students.  Some students\nwere taunting them, and photographs of the incident show at most one or two\nstudents who were following and taunting.\n\nThe series of photographs show the squad slowly proceeding up the hill, while\noccasionally their NCO, .45 in hand turned back to look at where they came from.\nAll at once, as if on command, the entire squad turned and fired their M1\nGarands, firing 30.06 rounds into the crowd (the NCO can be shown with this\n45 at full recoil).  At least two of the students shot had nothing to do with\nthe taunters... they were only passing through, and were not participants in\nthe confrontation.\n\nThere is some dispute whether the Guard was even legally on Campus... apparently\nthey had not been invited onto the state school by the president, who had\nconveniently flown the coop, so as not to be around.  The governor of Ohio,\nJames Rhodes, had just embarked on a senate campaign, and wanted it to be known\nthat he was tough on peaceniks, so had ordered the guard in.\n\nThe matter was quickly covered up.  Some years later, wounded survivors launched\na civil lawsuit against those responsible... a settlement was made, and under the\nterms, the plaintiffs could not discuss much, and guilty individuals were not\nidentified (in fact, those shooters in the squad have been identified).","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Hi Javier, (how are things at Corp, my old stomping ground was c-level?)\nVibration when applying the brakes can be caused, on disc brakes at least,\nby warped rotors. When the brakes are applied, there results uneven pressure\non the rotor.  Turning the rotors by a brake shop will remedy this problem\nas long as there is enough rotor width left for turning (i.e. within spec).\nThere could be some possible front end suspension problem but a brake shop\nshould be able to confirm warped rotors by a visual inspection which is free.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nWhatever you do, don't FTP to the sites listed in my sig...\n \nYou won't like what you find...really.  I beg you NOT to GO there!\nPLEASE!\n\n...e\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Would someone please leave me the full address for Canon in Canada.\nthank you.\n\n--- Via UCI v1.21 (C-Net Amiga)","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
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{"text":"\n\nAnd you can bet that I wouldn't be the only one not belonging to the\nmoderated group if it was moderated by an anally-retentive little\ndullard like yourself. \n\n\nI hardly need you to presume to lecture me on how to communicate my points\nof view.  This \"posting\" that you have made is the second on the subject of\nthe NHL letter and you have yet to communicate your opinion on the matter.\nInstead you content yourself with flaming me.\n\n\nResult:\nMoronic little busy bodies like yourself take advantage of a perceived\nopportunity to post rules for others to live by. \n\n\nWell if using it \"against\" me means you are going to post something of\nsignificance then by all means go ahead.  I insist.  Otherwise why don't\nyou just go back to sleep or do whatever it is that you do when you are \nall by yourself...\n\n-- ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Just wanted to let all the people who e-mailed me about \na possible Cardinals mailing list that I wasn't able to\nget the OK to host the list here so someone else will\nhave to do it. :-(\n\nMany thanks to Bob Netherton for his helpful info.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nYou may want to put Hubble back in the payload bay for a reboost,\nand you don't want to clip off the panels each time.\n\nFor the Gamma-Ray Observatory, one of the design requirements was that\nthere be no stored-energy mecahnisms (springs, explosive squibs, gas shocks,\netc.) used for deployment.  This was partially so that everything could\nbe reeled back in to put it back in the payload bay, and partially for\nsafety considerations.  (I've heard that the wings on a cruise missile\nwould cut you in half if you were standing in their swath when they opened.)\n\nBack when the shuttle would be going up every other day with a cost to\norbit of $3.95 per pound :-), everybody designed things for easy servicing.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\nSounds like you are getting a pretty fair price (assuming it is in\nnice condition)\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nYou don't need any counterfeit athiest's myth to make religion\nappear absurd.  You need only read any of friendly Christian\nBill Conner's posts.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nWow, hang on a second.  The libertarian party stands for personal freedom,\nlassez-faire economics and minimal government.  Whoever is describing the\nself as a Libertarian (maybe you were refering to the posters who call \nthemselves civil libertarians) are not talking at all about Libertarian\nphilosophy.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nI'm using DRDOS 6.0 with SuperStor for nearly 2 years now, and I'm wondering, if\nMSDOS 6.0 could keep up with it at last. Is there anybody who tried out both? \nWhat about this Double-Disk ? (had lots of problems with SStor too.)\nHow much memory do you get? (I've got 616K with EMM and SStor)\nWhat about the on-line help (Really great in DRDOS)\nAny help appreciated.\n \n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nSure!  -------->\n\nOH!  Sorry.  This is not rec.humor!\n\nTry cica in pub\/pc\/win3.  Get INDEX to see where it is.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"If I remember rightly, there is a pulsating set of tones piped thru the CATV\nsystems (somewheres near the FM broadcast band).  And that the cable company\ntrucks listen for this as they roam around town.  If you can hear it over\nthe air and not cable....\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I'd be interested in a copy of this code if you run across it.\n(Mail to the author bounced)\n > \/ hpldsla:comp.graphics \/ ricky@vnet.ibm.com (Rick Turner) \/ 12:53 am  May 13,\n 1993 \/\n > I fooled around with this problem a few years ago, and implemented a\n > simple method that ran on a PC.\n > was very simple - about 40 or 50 lines of code.\n . . .\n > Somewhere I still have it\n > and could dig it out if there was interest.\n >\n > Rick","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Hello:\n\nDo you know about a mouse odometer for windows?  I have seen one for the \nMac.  It is quite fun.  It records the distance, in miles, that the\ntravels during use.\n\nThanks in advance:\nSteve\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nWell, here is something I wrote some time ago in response to a\nsimilar question.  I hope it helps:\n\n[Begin repeat of previous post]\n\nAs for the scripture mentioned I agree that it does seem to be a \nproblem, not only for eternal marriage but marriage in general.  \nLuke's version has Jesus saying that the children of this world \nmarry and are given in marriage but not those who will attain\nthe kingdom of heaven.  It almost sounds like marriage disqualifies\none for salvation.  (Matthew and Mark both omit this statement.)   I\nthink the accounts are not as clear as they might be.  Let's have a\nlook at the incident and see if we can come up with some reasonable\nideas of what it means.  The scriptures involved are Mat 22:23-30,\nMark 12:18-25, and Luke 20:27-36.\n\nWhat happened was that the Sadducees, who did not believe in the\nresurrection, thought they could trap Jesus.  They made reference to\nthe \"Leverite\" marriage which required the brother of a man who died\nwithout children to take the widow to wife and raise up children.  \nThe children would be considered children of the deceased, just as\nthough the woman's first husband had fathered them.  It seems\nobvious from this that the woman was still considered in a way to be\nthe wife of her first husband.  However, the Sadducees concocted a\nscene in which 6 brothers of the deceased each in his turn failed to\nfather children by the widow.  They seem to imply that the Leverite\nmarriage was equal to the first for they ask, \"Whose wife shall she\nbe in the resurrection?\"  At this point it seems obvious that if she\nis anybody's wife, it is the first husband.  After all, had she\nborne children they would have been credited to him regardless of\nwhich brother was the biological father.  It is possible Jesus was\nrefering to this when he says, \"Ye do err, not knowing the\nscriptures or the power of God.\" (Mat 22:29, compare Mark 12:24,\nphrase not in Luke's account).\n\nAnyway, the Sadducees ask, \"Whose wife will she be in the\nresurrection, seeing that all 7 had her?\"  Jesus answer is that,\n\"In the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in\nmarriage...\" (Mat 22:30) \"When they rise from the dead they neither\nmarry...\" (Mark 12:25)  \"They which are accounted worthy to obtain\nthat world neither marry...\" (Luke 20:35)  All 3 accounts go on to\nsay, \"but are as the angels in heaven\" or the equivalent.  I find\nthis last not very helpful since the Bible does not define angels\nnor give any idea what their life is like.  (Some ministers claim\nthat they are sexless, different that humans etc. but I can find no\nBiblical support for this.)","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nDoing this in anything like reasonable time would require more\npropulsion capability than we can manage.  You would have to boost to\nPluto and then slow back down.  You could do something like a Hohman\norbit, but I think that would take ridiculous amounts of time (my\nRubber Bible is at home).\n\n-- \n\"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live\n in the real world.\"   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nI don't know this specific ratio, but I do have an earlier post that says\na gun is 33 times more likely to defend someone (including the times where\nthe gun isn't fired, just scares the perpetrator away) than it is to kill\nsomeone. (including self defense)  The post is kind of long, but I'll be\nglad to dig it up and email it to anyone who asks.\n\nDoug Holland\n\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nBefore we get into another discussion on the relative merits of a car alarm,\nlet's go on the assumption that one is desired.  The question then remains,\nwhich one?  I've owned a Hornet, and was satisfied, but not enough to get\nanother for my new car.  The Alpine has been highly recommended, but what about\nClifford and VSE's Derringer 2?  Any others?  I want all of the standard stuff;\ndoor lock interface, starter kill, light flash, LED, valet mode, passive\/active,\nshock\/motion sensor, etc...  Thanks for the advice!\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nHST is about 25,500 lbs (11,600 kg).  That doesn't include the cradle that\nwould have been in the cargo bay when it was deployed.  Spacelab-J on STS-47\nwas 21,861 lbs (according to the press-kit). \n\nAs someone else pointed out if they had been unable to deploy it for some\nreason that would have had to land with it still in the cargo bay and this\nwas a planned for contingency.  This is not a problem for the shuttle,\nthough it would eliminate KSC as a landing site, they still have to go to\nEdwards when landing with something like Spacelab in the cargo bay. \n\n--GaryM","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nAre the boards at all intelligent?  (I.e., run by microcontrollers?)  The\neasiest thing would be to have another line that says that one of the\nboards is talking to the PC.  When this line was true, the other boards\ncould all hold off and not send their data.  This isn't a perfect solution,\nthough, since you have to worry a little about making sure two boards don't\ndecide to talk at the _exact same time_.\n\nOther than that, I think you will need to hook up each board to \"something\"\nthat speaks RS-232.  This actually isn't as hard (or as expensive!) as it\nused to be, though.  Assuming the boards talk relatively slowly (9600 BPS\nor slower), the PICs can coordinate things between themselves to multiplex\nthe data.  (This is really just forbicly adding the suggestion in the first\nparagraph to your system.  And it assumes that each board doesn't talk more\nthan 1\/8th of the time, of for very long, since a PIC isn't going to be\nable to buffer more than, maybe 20-some bytes!)\n\nYou might want to check into the prices of multi-serial card for your PC,\nthough.  I recently bought a Boca Research 2x4 card (2 parallel ports, 4\nRS-232 ports) for a very reasonable $85.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I've recently been reading a paper of Merkle's (publixhed only on the\nnet, I think) discussing three potential replacements for DES.  Was\nanyting ever done with these?  Are Khufu, Khafre, and\/or Snefru still\nbeing discussed anywhere?  (I know Snefru is referenced in the RSA\nFAQ, and I think it may also be in the sci.crypt FAQ.)\n   On a related topic, can anyone point me toward good sites to find\npapers\/articles\/discussions of cryptology?  I think I've about exhausted\nthe Math\/Sci library here, which doesn't seem to have anything more recent\nthan about '84.\n \n   Thanks.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Stanley Cup Playoff stats through games played Sunday, April 25 1993\n--------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nTop 20 Point Scorers\nRnk  Pts  G   A PG SG GW EN PIM Cty Tm  Ps  #  Player\n---  --- -- --- -- -- -- -- --- --- --- -- --  ------\n  1    9  0   9  0  0  0  0   4 CAN BOS  C 12  Adam Oates\n  2    8  5   3  4  0  2  0   0 USA STL RW 16  Brett Hull\n  3    7  6   1  2  0  0  0   6 RUS BUF RW 89  Alexander Mogilny\n  3    7  4   3  1  1  0  0   4 CAN PIT  C 66  Mario Lemieux\n  3    7  3   4  2  1  0  0  19 CAN CAL RW 14  Theoren Fleury\n  3    7  2   5  1  0  0  0  12 CAN TOR  C 93  Doug Gilmour\n  3    7  1   6  0  0  0  0   0 CAN DET  D 77  Paul Coffey\n  3    7  1   6  0  0  0  0   0 USA BUF  C 16  Pat LaFontaine\n  9    6  4   2  0  0  2  0   4 CAN NYI  C 20  Ray Ferraro\n  9    6  3   3  0  0  1  0   2 RUS VAN RW 10  Pavel Bure\n  9    6  3   3  1  0  1  0   0 RUS BUF LW 13  Yuri Khmylev\n  9    6  3   3  1  0  1  0   6 CAN VAN RW 16  Trevor Linden\n  9    6  2   4  1  0  0  0   2 CAN BUF  C 10  Dale Hawerchuk\n  9    6  2   4  1  0  2  0   0 USA STL  C 15  Craig Janney\n  9    6  2   4  2  0  0  0   6 CAN BOS  C 49 *Joe Juneau\n  9    6  2   4  0  0  0  1   6 CAN CAL  C 25  Joe Nieuwendyk\n  9    6  1   5  0  0  0  0   4 CAN STL  D 21  Jeff Brown\n  9    6  1   5  0  0  1  0   4 CAN PIT  C 10  Ron Francis\n\nTop 10 Goal Scorers\nRnk  Pts  G   A PG SG GW EN PIM Cty Tm  Ps  #  Player\n---  --- -- --- -- -- -- -- --- --- --- -- --  ------\n  1    7  6   1  2  0  0  0   6 RUS BUF RW 89  Alexander Mogilny\n  2    8  5   3  4  0  2  0   0 USA STL RW 16  Brett Hull\n  2    5  5   0  3  0  1  0  14 CAN WAS  C 32  Dale Hunter\n  4    7  4   3  1  1  0  0   4 CAN PIT  C 66  Mario Lemieux\n  4    6  4   2  0  0  2  0   4 CAN NYI  C 20  Ray Ferraro\n  4    5  4   1  0  0  1  0   6 CAN TOR LW 14  Dave Andreychuk\n  4    5  4   1  1  0  0  0   4 CAN BOS RW  8  Cam Neely\n  4    4  4   0  2  0  0  0   2 USA LA   C 12  Jimmy Carson\n  4    4  4   0  0  0  2  0   0 USA QUE RW 48  Scott Young\n\nTop 10 Assist Scorers\nRnk  Pts  G   A PG SG GW EN PIM Cty Tm  Ps  #  Player\n---  --- -- --- -- -- -- -- --- --- --- -- --  ------\n  1    9  0   9  0  0  0  0   4 CAN BOS  C 12  Adam Oates\n  2    7  1   6  0  0  0  0   0 CAN DET  D 77  Paul Coffey\n  2    7  1   6  0  0  0  0   0 USA BUF  C 16  Pat LaFontaine\n  4    7  2   5  1  0  0  0  12 CAN TOR  C 93  Doug Gilmour\n  4    6  1   5  0  0  0  0   4 CAN STL  D 21  Jeff Brown\n  4    6  1   5  0  0  1  0   4 CAN PIT  C 10  Ron Francis\n  4    5  0   5  0  0  0  0   0 USA WIN  D  6  Phil Housley\n  4    5  0   5  0  0  0  0   4 SWE WAS  D  6  Calle Johansson\n  4    5  0   5  0  0  0  0   8 CAN CAL  D  2  Al MacInnis\n\nTop 10 Power-play Goal Scorers\nRnk  Pts  G   A PG SG GW EN PIM Cty Tm  Ps  #  Player\n---  --- -- --- -- -- -- -- --- --- --- -- --  ------\n  1    8  5   3  4  0  2  0   0 USA STL RW 16  Brett Hull\n  2    5  5   0  3  0  1  0  14 CAN WAS  C 32  Dale Hunter\n  3    7  3   4  2  1  0  0  19 CAN CAL RW 14  Theoren Fleury\n  3    7  6   1  2  0  0  0   6 RUS BUF RW 89  Alexander Mogilny\n  3    6  2   4  2  0  0  0   6 CAN BOS  C 49 *Joe Juneau\n  3    5  2   3  2  0  0  0   6 CAN STL LW 19  Brendan Shanahan\n  3    4  4   0  2  0  0  0   2 USA LA   C 12  Jimmy Carson\n  3    4  2   2  2  0  0  0   2 TCH CAL  C 26  Robert Reichel\n  3    4  3   1  2  0  1  0   2 FIN WIN RW 13 *Teemu Selanne\n  3    3  2   1  2  0  1  0   6 CAN MON LW 25  Vincent Damphousse\n\nAll the Short-handed Goal Scorers\nRnk  Pts  G   A PG SG GW EN PIM Cty Tm  Ps  #  Player\n---  --- -- --- -- -- -- -- --- --- --- -- --  ------\n  1    7  3   4  2  1  0  0  19 CAN CAL RW 14  Theoren Fleury\n  1    7  4   3  1  1  0  0   4 CAN PIT  C 66  Mario Lemieux\n  1    4  3   1  0  1  1  0   4 USA CAL  C 29  Joel Otto\n  1    4  2   2  0  1  0  0   6 USA CAL  D 20  Gary Suter\n  1    3  2   1  1  1  0  0  23 RUS DET  C 91  Sergei Fedorov\n  1    2  1   1  0  1  0  0  10 CAN BOS  C 19  Dave Poulin\n  1    1  1   0  0  1  0  0   4 CAN WIN  C 38  Luciano Borsato\n  1    1  1   0  0  1  0  0   2 CAN DET LW 11  Shawn Burr\n  1    1  1   0  0  1  0  0   2 CAN STL LW 10  Dave Lowry\n  1    1  1   0  0  1  1  0   0 USA BUF RW 18  Wayne Presley\n\nTop 10 Game-winning Goal Scorers\nRnk  Pts  G   A PG SG GW EN PIM Cty Tm  Ps  #  Player\n---  --- -- --- -- -- -- -- --- --- --- -- --  ------\n  1    8  5   3  4  0  2  0   0 USA STL RW 16  Brett Hull\n  1    6  4   2  0  0  2  0   4 CAN NYI  C 20  Ray Ferraro\n  1    6  2   4  1  0  2  0   0 USA STL  C 15  Craig Janney\n  1    4  4   0  0  0  2  0   0 USA QUE RW 48  Scott Young\n  5    6  3   3  0  0  1  0   2 RUS VAN RW 10  Pavel Bure\n  5    6  1   5  0  0  1  0   4 CAN PIT  C 10  Ron Francis\n  5    6  3   3  1  0  1  0   0 RUS BUF LW 13  Yuri Khmylev\n  5    6  3   3  1  0  1  0   6 CAN VAN RW 16  Trevor Linden\n  5    5  4   1  0  0  1  0   6 CAN TOR LW 14  Dave Andreychuk\n  5    5  5   0  3  0  1  0  14 CAN WAS  C 32  Dale Hunter\n\nTop 5 Point Scoring Defensemen\nRnk  Pts  G   A PG SG GW EN PIM Cty Tm  Ps  #  Player\n---  --- -- --- -- -- -- -- --- --- --- -- --  ------\n  3    7  1   6  0  0  0  0   0 CAN DET  D 77  Paul Coffey\n  9    6  1   5  0  0  0  0   4 CAN STL  D 21  Jeff Brown\n 19    5  0   5  0  0  0  0   0 USA WIN  D  6  Phil Housley\n 19    5  0   5  0  0  0  0   4 SWE WAS  D  6  Calle Johansson\n 19    5  0   5  0  0  0  0   8 CAN CAL  D  2  Al MacInnis\n\nTop 4 Rookie Point Scorers\nRnk  Pts  G   A PG SG GW EN PIM Cty Tm  Ps  #  Player\n---  --- -- --- -- -- -- -- --- --- --- -- --  ------\n  9    6  2   4  2  0  0  0   6 CAN BOS  C 49 *Joe Juneau\n 33    4  3   1  0  0  1  0   8 USA PIT  C 15 *Shawn McEachern\n 33    4  3   1  2  0  1  0   2 FIN WIN RW 13 *Teemu Selanne\n 33    4  0   4  0  0  0  0   2 TCH BUF  D 42 *Richard Smehlik\n\nTop 5 Penalty Minute Leaders\nRnk  Pts  G   A PG SG GW EN PIM Cty Tm  Ps  #  Player\n---  --- -- --- -- -- -- -- --- --- --- -- --  ------\n  1    1  0   1  0  0  0  0  26 CAN DET LW 55  Keith Primeau\n  2    3  2   1  1  1  0  0  23 RUS DET  C 91  Sergei Fedorov\n  3    0  0   0  0  0  0  0  22 CAN NYI  D 47  Richard Pilon\n  4    2  1   1  0  0  0  0  21 CAN TOR RW 12  Rob Pearson\n  4    1  1   0  0  0  0  0  21 CAN WIN RW 20  Tie Domi","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nMichael> The kind of interpretation I see as \"incredibly perverse\" is\nMichael> that applied to the story of Sodom as if it were a blanket\nMichael> equation of homosexual behavior and rape.  Since Christians\nMichael> citing the Bible in such a context should be presumed to have\nMichael> at least READ the story, it amounts to slander -- a charge\nMichael> that homosexuality == rape -- to use that against us.\n\nand\n\nMichael>  It is just\nMichael> as wrong (though slightly less incendiary, so it's a\nMichael> secondary argument from the 'phobic contingent) to equate\nMichael> homosexuality with such behavior as to equate it with the\nMichael> rape of God's messengers.\n\nLet's review the Sodom and Gomorrah story briefly.  It states\nclearly that the visitors were angels.  But \"all the men from every\npart of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the\nhouse.  They called to Lot, `Where are the *men* who came to \nyou tonight?  Bring them out to us so that we can have sex \nwith them.' \" \n\nFor the rest of the story the angels are referred to by the men\nof Sodom and by Lot as *men*.  Furthermore we know from Gen 18:20,21\nthat the Lord had already found Sodom guilty of grievous sin--before\nthe angels visited the city.  It is clear that the grievous sin\nof Sodom and Gomorrah involved homosexual sex.  It appears that\nthe men had become so inflamed in their lust that they had\ngroup orgies in the public square--which simply indicates \nthe extremity of their depravity.  It does not show that lesser \ndegrees of homosexuality are not sinful, as Michael would have us\nbelieve.\n\nUltimately our understanding of God's will for sexuality comes from\nthe creation story--not solely on the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.  He\ncreated us male and female, and instituted marriage as a relationship\nbetween one male and one female, \"Therefore a man will leave his\nfather and mother, and be united with his wife, and they will become\none flesh.\"  This marriage relationship is the only sexual\nrelationship which God blesses and sanctions. He regulates and\nprotects the marriage of man and woman, and even uses it as a picture\nof the relationship between himself and his church.  But we find not\none word of blessing or regulation for a sexual relationship between \ntwo men, or between two women.\n\nEverything else that we find in the Bible about sexuality derives from\nor expresses God's will in instituting and blessing marriage.  Thus\nthe Levitical code, which was given only to the Jews, forbade incest,\nhomosexuality, bestiality; the Ten Commandments forbade adultery and\nthe coveting of our neighbor's wife; other commandments forbade rape.\nThe men of Sodom and Gomorrah were regarded as sexually immoral and\nperverse (Jude 7) because they abandoned and\/or polluted the marriage\nrelationship.  Thus also Paul regarded homosexuality as `unnatural',\nRomans 1:26,27--not because this was simply Paul's opinion,\nbut because it was contrary to God's purpose in creating us\nmale and female.\n  \nMichael> Christians, no doubt very sincere ones, keep showing up here\nMichael> and in every corner of USENET and the world, and ALL they\nMichael> ever do is spout these same old verses (which they obviously\nMichael> have never thought about, maybe never even read), in TOTAL\nMichael> ignorance of the issues raised, slandering us with the vilest\nMichael> charges of child abuse or whatever their perfervid minds can\nMichael> manage to conjure up, tossing out red herrings with (they\nMichael> suppose) great emotional force to cause readers to dismiss\nMichael> our witness without even taking the trouble to find out what\nMichael> it is.\n\nReally, have you no better response to `slander' than more\nslander?","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"That's assuming it could get built by them.\n\nOf course,  it would probably sport Cruise missile Racks,\nSidewinder Missile tubes,  Bomb Points,  extra drop tanks,\na Full ECM suite, Terrain following radar  and stealth\nmaterials.\n\nIT might not fly,  but a technology demonstrator does\nnot require  actual flight.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I will remind this list that I have a booklet on Fatima I will send to any\none who wants it.  It is \"Our Lady of Fatima's Peace Plan from Heaven\".\nIt is 30 pages in length and includes the Fatima story.  If you want one\nor more, let me know.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Wednesday's game of Beloved Yakult Swallows\n\n(At Jingu, 38,000)\nHanshin Tigers      000 006 000 |6\nBeloved Swallows    100 000 000 |1\n\n  W - Kasai (2-0). L - Ito (0-1).\n----------------------------------------------------------------\nCENTRAL LEAGUE STANDING\n==========================\n                   W   L   T   Pct.   GB\nHiroshima Carp     7   2   0  .778    --\nChunichi Dragons   7   3   0  .700    0.5\nHanshin Tigers     6   4   0  .600    1.5\nHated   Giants     4   5   0  .444    3.0\nBeloved Swallows   3   7   0  .300    4.5\nYokohama BayStars  2   8   0  .200    5.5\n------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n--","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n    Pink noise has constant power per geometric frequency increment\n(octave, 1\/3 octave, etc).  Thus the 10kHz-20kHz octave has the same\namount of noise power as the 10Hz-20Hz octave.\n    White noise has constant power per arithmetic frequency increment\n(Hz, kHz, etc).  Thus the 10kHz-10.1kHz band has the same amount of\nnoise power as the 10Hz-110Hz band (both bands are 100Hz wide).\n    Pink noise can be made by passing white noise thru a -3db\/octave\nfilter (usually approximated by a network of several RC pairs).\nNote: you can't get -3db\/octave by using half a -6db\/octave network \n:-(\n    Pink noise is commonly used in audio power response measurements.\nIt shows up on audio spectrum analyzers (with octave-related bands)\nas a flat line across the bands.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nYep.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Why are people willing to trust the STU-III?\nBecause the government does?\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nHmm...has anyone of us computer geeks (me included) ever consider\nthat inovation is not limited to software\/hardware.  True, MS\nproducts do not boast features that MS invented, but how many products\nout there by other vendors out there are truely innovative in\ntheir continuing development? \n\nI think what makes MS special to the public is thier innovative pricing.\nIt is true the XWindows\/MAC\/NEXT all have some feature(s) in thier GUI\nthat are better than MS.  But people like me can't afford them.\nIt is true that Apple has lower their pricing on the low end models..\nbut they are just that...low end.  System 7 is a better operating\nsystem, but the machines they operate on just are too expensive for\nmy tastes...A UNIX platform is powerful enuf, but tell the common\nuser to set up .Xdefault (i am still confused on what some of them things \ndo) and they either puke or faint.  \n\nIf u think about it, low prices aint innovative if u come down to it.  But\nfor the product it offers and on the lower cost (and powerful hardware\nthat it runs on as compare to macs)....MS is kinda innovative..\n\nOh yea, I guess the fact that the support products and applications\nthey have garnered for MSWindows does make them kinda innovative too..\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"My 85 Caprice Classic with 120K+ miles has finally reached\nthe threshold of total number of mechanical problems that\nI am forced to post :).  Anyone out there who might be\nable to give me some pointers on one or more of the below,\nplease e-mail or post!\n\n1. When making turns, especially when accelerating,\n   there is usually a loud \"thunk\" from the rear of\n   of the car.  Sounds like it could be the differential.\n   What could cause this?  Is the differential going\n   bad?  I recently had the differential fluid changed,\n   and it DID have tiny metal bits in it.  (And no,\n   the sound is NOT something rolling around in the\n   trunk!)  \n\n2. On starting the car, I get blue (oil) smoke from\n   the exhaust for 5-10 seconds.  Exhaust valves\n   going bad?  Worn rings?  Anyone know whether the\n   valves on the 4.3 TBI engine can be lapped?\n\n3. Brakes.  More pedal travel than I feel comfortable\n   with, but master cylinder is full and fluid is\n   relatively clear.  Pedal does NOT slowly sink to\n   the floor when held down.  Pedal does not feel\n   spongey, but I suppose that bleeding the brakes\n   might help -- could anything else cause this?\n\n4. Tranny.  Tranny problems seem to be slowly getting\n   worse -- takes almost 2 seconds to downshift from\n   3rd to 2nd on heavy throttle application, and more\n   recently, it is reluctant to shift from 2nd to 3rd.\n   Fluid (checked with car running with tranny put\n   through all the gears and then back to park, as per\n   Haynes manual) is red and clear, and is on full mark.\n\n5. My springs all around are just about shot -- I have\n   4 new shocks on, but car still skips out on bumps\n   in turns at moderate to high speed.  How hard are\n   they to change?  Can they be reconditioned?\n\nI'd be interested in hearing from any GM full-size RWD owners\nout there with stories to tell and\/or advice.  Here in Philly,\nthese cars are apparently stolen(!) quite often and converted\ninto taxis.  Apparently the cab conversion shops will get a\njunk title for the car or switch VINs with a car about to be\njunked.  About 60% of Philly cabs are Caprice's, with most of\nthe rest being Crown Vic's with a few old New Yorkers and\nImpalas (& Broughams).","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"1990 Mazda 626 DX       $6000 or best offer\nNADA blue book: $9075 - $2175 for mileage = $6900\ne-mail or call Ron at (908)805-2248 (work) or (908)454-9337 (home)\n\n* 92,000 miles, all highway (I used to commute 160 miles\/day)\n* 5 speed\n* Air Conditioning\n* AM\/FM\/Cassette stereo\n* split fold-down rear seat\n* 2.2 liter, 12 valve, fuel injected engine \n* roomy interior, comfy back seats, big trunk\n* well maintained - oil and filter every 3,000 - 4,000, other maintanence\n\tas scheduled.  Except for the timing belt which still looks new.\n\tI did slip and went 5,000 miles without changing the oil once.\n* tires have 20,000 miles, lots of life left (probably 30,000 to 40,000)\n* front brake job at 84,000, back brakes are still good\n* engine\/trans\/drive train in perfect condition - everything works,\n\tnothing needs replacing, next tune up scheduled at 120,000\n* body is good - left tail light is cracked (I'm trying to find a used\n\tone - dealer wants $172!), two long scratches and a ding on the\n\thood (vandalism?), a bunch of stone chips on the front of the\n\thood.  Official Mazda touch up paint included in the deal.\n\nThis car is extremely reliable, even better than the Toyota Corolla it\nreplaced.  Besides the tires, brakes and maintanence items, the only other\nparts that have been replaced are the headlight bulbs.\n\nSelling because my wife refuses to drive a car without an automatic trans.\nAnd she wants a station wagon with a sun roof, etc, etc.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nIf you already own all the \"clone\" equipment then there are lots of such\nprograms (see a current copy of Unix World Magazine).\n\n*BUT*  your performance WILL suck lemons running an Xserver on a clone.\n(From experience).  You would be much better off with an Xterminal if this\nis a new install.  The performance will be at least four times better.\nIn addition it would be MUCH easier to install and use.  On top of that\nthey will cost about the same (price a clone with 4MB RAM, ethernet card,\nvery high performance graphics card, GOOD monitor, server software, TCP\/IP\nfor clone software, mouse, keyboard, etc, etc, etc.... you spend a whole\nlot of $$$$).\n\nI can get 15\" Tektronix XP11 terminals for under $900, and the performance\nis over 80000 Xstones.....","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nActually, I find the stuff about JC being a carpenter more\ninteresting.  Is there an independent source for this assertion,\nor is it all from the Christian Bible?  Is there any record at\nall of anything he built?  A table, a house, some stairs (Norm\nAbrams says the real test of a carpenter's skill is building\nstairs with hand tools).  Did he leave any plans behind for, say\nkitchen counters and cabinets?  Did he build his own cross?\nIf so, did he use pressure-treated lumber?  Gotta use that\npressure-treated anywhere that wood meets concrete, but it\nholds up better anyway for mose outdoor applications.  I keep\nseeing these bumper-stickers that say \"My boss is a Jewish\nCarpenter,\" but they're always on the back of Ford Escorts,\nand a real carpenter's apprentice would probably drive a\npickup, so I'm out for verification that he really was a\ncarpenter.\n\nDean Kaflowitz","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"ST>         as for more captain trivia, the next Edmonton\nST>         catain was Lee Fogilin who was later traded to\nST>         the Buffalo Sabres, after him was Wayne Gretzky\nST>         who w   traded to L A, then came Kevin Low who\nST>         nly this year was traded to the N Y Rangers\n \nWasn't Mark Messier Captain of the oilers before Kevin Lowe?\nBut, of course, he was traded as well -- so your point of every\nOilers captain being traded is still true.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"There's been some discussion very recently as to whether the\ngovernment once again might exempt themselves from something they use\nto screw us over...  Well, from comp.dcom.telecom:\n\nFrom: lesreeves@attmail.com\nSubject: Odds 'n Ends in the News\n\n* The Clipper Chip device introduced yesterday by AT&T may not be\nsuitable for government use, says House Telecom Subcommittee Chairman\nMarkey.  In a letter to Commerce Secretary Brown, Markey asked whether\nthe use of the technology could lead to \"inadvertently increased costs\nto those U.S. companies hoping to serve both\" the government and\nprivate markets.  Markey has ordered Brown to answer several questions\nabout security and cost concerns by April 28.  (Communications Daily,\n4\/20\/93)","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":".........\nI, some years ago, almost became a victim of this.  Squirted a fair amount in\nan old model 15 Teletype which was acting up, then turned it on.  The eruption\nwhen the motor starting contacts broke was mighty spectacular... I almost got\nmy eyebrows singed, the plastic (old ones had safety glass) cover over the\nplaten, etc flew across the room, and several people in the room almost had\nheart attacks.  Beware the explosive properties of WD40 vapor.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nThere's a blurb in the STATS Scoreboard about this, and though I don't have\nthe book with me here, my memory is that the best at hitting sac flies were\nfar below this 60% number.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I have a stack of records LP 33 that are from the early sixtys to mid seventys\nwith groups like the Beatles, Cream, Woodstock (triple album) etc etc. that I\nwould like to get rid of.  I would be willing to sell one or all for whatever\nresonable offer.  Some albums still have the original wrapper and price tag.\nI would like to get around $5 for each or you can call and make offer on the\nlot.  I could list them all but I'd be typing forever.\n           call (408) 296-4444\n\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nI'd appreciate some support for this statement.  I'm not sure\nit really makes sense to me.\n\n\nI've heard this frequently - what exactly is Pascal's wager?\n\n\nI don't know.  You point out that your mother's treatment upset you,\nand see inconsistencies in various religions.  I'm not sure if that\nconstitutes broken-ness or not.   It certainly consititutes \ndisillusionment.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nI would change one of the many parts that define my cultural identity.\nIf I loose a leg, it might change my personality, but I do not\nstop being a human being. \nEven more, when someone gets a baboon heart, that person is still\nhuman.\n\n\nNot really. That is what differenciates agnostics from atheists.\nAs an atheist, I do not believe there is a god, nor do I believe that\nthere ever was one.\nSo, those commandments have no meaning to me. Also, there are a lot\nof ideas that have no meaning to me: The idea of a chosen people,\nthe idea of a given right to the land of Israel, the idea of keeping\nkosher, the idea of opposing intermarriage, the idea of having a \nTorah that was inspired by god, etc. \nBy being an atheist, I cannot support the idea of the Jewish Nation\nas defined by a religious principle or based on a religious identity.\nFor me, religion is just another piece in what constitutes the cultural\nidentity of the Jewish people. I believe that as a people with a \ncultural identity they constitute a Nation and have the same right as\nany other people in the world to have their own State. The same right\nas the Armenians have, as the Palestinians have, as the French have,\nand as anybody else have.\nI cannot say that by accepting a different god someone has lost all \ncultural identification. \n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"& \n& And speaking of shims, why would the clearance of the valves get smaller,\n& i.e. \n& need the use of a thinner shim?  \n\nBecause the valves recede into the cylinder head faster than the shims\/cams\nwear down..\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"With the Southern Baptist Convention convening this June to consider\nthe charges that Freemasonry is incompatible with christianity, I thought\nthe following quotes by Mr. James Holly, the Anti-Masonic Flag Carrier,\nwould amuse you all...\n\n     The following passages are exact quotes from \"The Southern \nBaptist Convention and Freemasonry\" by James L. Holly, M.D., President\nof Mission and Ministry To Men, Inc., 550 N 10th St., Beaumont, TX \n77706. \n \n     The inside cover of the book states: \"Mission & Ministry to Men, \nInc. hereby grants permission for the reproduction of part or all of \nthis booklet with two provisions: one, the material is not changed and\ntwo, the source is identified.\" I have followed these provisions. \n  \n     \"Freemasonry is one of the allies of the Devil\" Page iv. \n \n     \"The issue here is not moderate or conservative, the issue is God\nand the Devil\" Page vi.\" \n \n     \"It is worthwhile to remember that the formulators of public \nschool education in America were Freemasons\" Page 29. \n \n     \"Jesus Christ never commanded toleration as a motive for His \ndisciples, and toleration is the antithesis of the Christian message.\"\nPage 30. \n \n     \"The central dynamic of the Freemason drive for world unity \nthrough fraternity, liberty and equality is toleration. This is seen \nin the writings of the 'great' writers of Freemasonry\". Page 31. \n \n     \"He [Jesus Christ] established the most sectarian of all possible \nfaiths.\" Page 37. \n \n     \"For narrowness and sectarianism, there is no equal to the Lord \nJesus Christ\". Page 40. \n \n     \"What seems so right in the interest of toleration and its \ncousins-liberty, equality and fraternity-is actually one of the \nsubtlest lies of the 'father of lies.'\" Page 40. \n \n     \"The Southern Baptist Convention has many churches which were \nfounded in the Lodge and which have corner stones dedicated by the \nLodge. Each of these churches should hold public ceremonies of \nrepentance and of praying the blood and the Name of the Lord Jesus \nChrist over the church and renouncing the oaths taken at the \ndedication of the church and\/or building.\" Page 53-54.  \n ","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\tActually there is an S3-based card on the market that supports\n\tmultiple adapters in one system. Unfortunately, It is VL-Bus\n\tonly (They may have an ISA version by now...?) from a company\n\tcalled Metheus. The address and phone number is:\n\n\t\t\tMetheus Corp\n\t\t\tOGC Science Park\n\t\t\t1600 NW Compton Dr.\n\t\t\tBeaverton, OR  97006-6905\n\t\t\t(503)-690-1550\n\tBe aware, this is a very high-end card, capable of 4MB of VRAM,\n\tso it does not come CHEAP. But, I have personally seen TWO of\n\tthese boards running a dual screen Windows 3.1.\n\n\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I have a Bronica SQA medium format camera for sale.  Includes 2 lenses, 1 film\nback, and a view finder.  $2.200.00 firm.  Contact me via E-mail for info.\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nI suppose it's too late now, but the repeated use of the word\n\"release\" is peculiar.  Let's say you and your family are besieged\nin your home by some people with tanks, helicopters, and automatic\nweapons.  They give you a break from the amplified sounds of dying\nrabbits to blare, \"You in there!  Release the children, and they'll\nbe perfectly all right.\"  Stipulate on top of that that you may not\nhave your epistemology entirely in order.  Is it entirely surprising\nthat the Branch Davidians were reluctant to \"release\" their children\ninto FBI custody?","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"                                             \nI'm curious.  Are you referring to Koresh as \"the Man\"?  Why the \nupper case M?                           \n                                                         \n                                                          \nI never claimed to be a spokesman for \"most people\".  It is an assumption\non my part that people with normal values and morality would be more \nconcerned with human life than sermon structure.  \n                                      \n                     \nAre burning children part of this very special event?      \n                                          \n\n                                                \nWhat about those who do not know the Master's voice?  Does the Master\nnot care about them?  Eloquent, but corrupt, preaching may be of little\ndifference to you.  But I suspect it made a big difference to all of\nthose who died in the compound.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nThe Fat Lady is about to hit the first note...Okay,how about 3-0 deficits?\nThe B's chances for a comeback are now less 1%(That's based on 7-game\nplayoff format)...\n\n \nHe got the start but the headlines on all Boston local TV sportscats\nsaid it all : \"Sutter Blue It!\". And he did.\n\nHarry Sinden's appearance outside of B's dressing room after Game 3\nwas a pathetic site. He said something really retarded to cover Sutter's\nbehind,\"This game is not about winning or losing..\". Harry,check the\nschedule! Your team is in the playoffs and about to go on a long summer\nvacation on Sunday morning!\n\nHarry and his buttkisser Milbury will never admit that they screwed up\nin a major way when they brought in one of the dumbest people in the\nbusiness,Brian Sutter. Sutter's playoff record as the head coach in St.Louis\nspeaks for itself. The Blues really have a chance to advance to the\nsecond round this year...","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"was\nYuppies\nstarted\nYep, that's when I noticed it too. I stopped replacing the hood badge  \nafter the second or third one (at $12.00 each).\n\n2002 drivers used to flash their headlight at each other in greeting. Try  \nflashing your headlights at a 318i driver and see what kind of look you  \nget. They usually check their radar detector...they think you're alerting  \nthem to a cop.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nClimbers regard 8000 metres and up as \"The Death Zone\".  Even on 100% Oxygen,\nyou are slowly dying.  At 8848m (Everest), most climbers spend only a short\nperiod of time before descending.  I've been above 8000 once.  Descending as\nlittle as 300m feels like walking into a jungle, the air is so thick.  Everest\nin winter without oxygen, no support party (Alpine style).  That is the\n\"ultimate challenge\" (or is it solo?)","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"In the King James Version of the Bible there are three differents words \ntranslated into the word \"hell\".  These Greek words have totally different \nmeanings.  The words are Hades, Tartaros, and Gehenna.\n\n    In bibical usage, the Greek word Hades is used only 11 times in the \nNew Testament, and is roughly the equivalent to the Old Testament word Sheol...\nmeaning the grave or pit (compare Acts 2:27 with Psalms 16:10).  Hades may be \nlikened to a hole in the ground. (In the Bible it has nothing to do with fire!)\n\n    Most modern bibical translators admit that the use in the English word hell\nto translate Hades and Sheol are an unfortunate and misleading practice.  \n\n    Why?  Because when seeing the word \"hell\" many readers impute to it the \ntraditional connotation of an ever-burning inferno, when this was never \nremotely intended in the Greek language or in Old English!\n\n    In its true bibical usage Hades does indeed refer to the state or abode of \nthe dead, but not in the sense of spirits walking around in some sort of \n\"shadowy realm.\"  Hades is simply the abode we call the grave.  All dead go to \nthis hell.\n\n    The second \"hell\" of the Bible, Tartaros, is mentioned only once in \nscripture, 2 Pet.2:4; \"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast \nthem down to hell (TARTAROS), and delivered them into chains of darkness to be \nreserved unto judgment...\"\n\n    Following their rebellion to unseat God from His throne (Isa.14:12-14; \nRev.12:4), the archangel Lucifer (now Satan) and a third of the created angels \n(now demons) were ejected from heaven (Luke 10:18).  They were cast down to \nTartaros, a place or condition of restraint that God has imposed on the \nmutinous angels as they await ultimate judgment (Jude 6; 1 Cor.6:3).\n\n    Tartaros, then, is a \"hell\" that applies only to evil, rebellious angels or\ndemons (It is interesting that the ancient Greeks used this word to describe \nthe place in which Zeus confined the rebellious Titans).  Nowhere in the Bible \nis there any mention of men being put into this particular \"hell\".\n\n    The the third word that is translated as \"hell\" in the Bible is Gehenna. It\ncomes from the Hebrew GAI HINNOM, meaning \"valley of Hinniom.\"  Hinnom is a \ndeep, narrow ravine located to the south and southwest of Jerusalem.\n\n    In Old Testament times it was a place of abominable pagan rites, including \ninfant sacrifice (It was there that the apostate kings Ahaz and Manasseh made \ntheir children \"pass through the fire\" to the god Molech.  The rites were \nspecifically celebrated in Tophet, the \"place of abhorrence,\" one of the chief \ngroves in the valley).\n\n    King Josiah of ancient Judah finally put an end to these abominations.  He \ndefiled the valley, rendering it ceremonially unclean (2 Kings 23:10).  Later \nthe valley became the cesspool and city dump of Jerusalem; a repository for \nsewage, refuse and animal carcasses.  The bodies of dispised criminals were \nalso burned there along with the rubbish.  Fires burned continuously, feeding \nby a constant supply of garbage and refuse.\n\n    Aceldama, the \"field of blood\", purchased with the money Judas received for\nthe betrayal of Christ (Matt.27:8) was also in part of the valley of Hinnom.\n\n    So what does this valley called Gehenna have to do with hell?  \n\n    In Rev.19:20: the Satan inspired political dictator and a miracle-working \nreligious figure, the False Prophet, working with him will resist the \nre-establishment of the government of God by Jesus Christ at His Second Coming.\nTheir fate is revealed by the apostle John: \"And the beast was taken, and with \nhim the false prophet...  These both were cast alive into a lake of fire \nburning with brimstone.\"\n    \n    Where will this temporary lake of fire (this \"hell\") be?\n\n    The prophet Isaiah wrote of this lake of fire prepared for the Beast: \"For \nTophet (in the valley of Hinnom) is ordained of old, yea for the king it is \nprepared, he hath made it deep and large, the pile thereof is fire and wood, \nthe breath of the Lord, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it\" (Isa.30:33).\n\n    One thousand years later, Satan himself will be cast into this rekindled \nfiery lake where the Beast and False Prophet were cast! (Rev.20:10).\n\n    But what of the wicked who have died over the millennia?  Does the Bible \nsay that they are now suffering fiery punishment for their sins in a lake of \nfire?\n\n    In the sequence of Rev.20 the incorrigibly wicked are resurrected to be \nthrown into the lake of fire after Satan is cast there! (Rev.20:15). What will \nbecome of these wicked?  Will they writhe in flames for eternity? \n \n    The wicked will be burned up from the intense heat of the coming Gehenna \nfire on the earth.  They wil be consumed, annihilated, destroyed!  This \npunishment will be everlasting (permanent and final).  The Bible calls it the \n\"second death\" (Rev.20:14; 21:8), from which there is no possibility of a \nfurther resurrection.\n\n    The Bible does teach eternal punishment, but not eternal punishing.\n                           \n    The prophet Malachi provides a graphic description. \"For, behold, the day \ncometh that shall burn as an oven, and all the proud, yea, and all that do \nwickedly, shall be stubble, and the day that cometh shall burn them up...\"\n(4:1).  To the righteous, God says that the wicked shall be \"ashes under the \nsoles of your feet...\"(Mal.4:3).\n\n    Gehenna was a place of destruction and death, not a place of living \ntorture!  Jesus was talking to Jews who understood all about this Gehenna or \nvalley of Hinnom.  Utter destruction by fire was complete.  Nothing was left, \nbut ashes!\n \n    Every text in the Bible translated from this Greek word Gehenna means \ncomplete destruction, not living torture (not eternal life in torment)!  The \nBible says, in Romans 6:23, \"The wages of sin is death\", not eternal life in \ntorture.  The punishment revealed in the Bible is Death... the cessation of \nlife. ","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Since I started this twist of this thread...\n\n\nActually you fell into the above because you said \"I believe\"\nIf you had used the rest of this post in your previous post\nI do not think anyone would have agrued with you.\n\n\n\nThe following three are not the competition for Windows 3.0 (IMHO of course)\nSystem 7  -- Does not currently run on Intel boxes\nNeXTSTep  -- Rather expensive should be a competitor to Windows NT not 3.x\nUnix\/X    --   \"        \"        \"    \" \"      \"     \"    \"     \"   \"   \"\n\n\nWith the exception of OS\/2 all of the above will require most users\nto spend a very large sum of money to upgrade applications to ones that\nrun under these OS's. And basically money speaks louder than anything\nelse. You keep saying \"More stable multitasking\" is what you mean\n\"Not Multi-finder \/ GEM \/ GeoWorks co-operative multi-tasking but\nreal honest to goodness prioritized pre-emptive multi-tasking\"?\n\n\nBasically this is moot since most users have been able to share data for\nquite a long time, but are still to blind to know it.\n\n\nWhy pick it up? You stated the reasons behind your opinions. Stated them in \na very straight-forward, though over protective, manner. And aside from\nmy earlier comments about who actually is a competitor, I think we are in\nagreement.\n\nDoes Tim Glauert agree? Let's wait and see.\n-- \n\nDisclaimer: The opinions expressed are mine not those of BNR.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
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{"text":"\nIt was Clint Malarchuk\n\nWhatever happened to him, anyway?","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"In Win 3.1, one may assign hot-keys for the program items within the\nProgram Manager. How about the Program Manager itself? Is there one\nalready, or is there some way to assign one?","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nThis sounds suspiciously like black magic to me.  If by \"quick wiggle\nto the right\" you mean that the handlebars turn toward the right\nbefore turning to the left, what is the input to the steering\nmechanism that makes this happen in the absence of the old\n\"shove-shove\"?","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nI hope this makes you feel better, but the overtime between the Isles and\nthe Caps was GREAT!!! \n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nYou asked me to look over here, but I was on my way back anyway :-)\n\n#[reply to cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Mike Cobb)]\n# \n#>If morals come from what is societally accepted, why follow that? What\n#>right do we have to expect others to follow our notion of societally\n#>mandated morality?  Pardon the extremism, but couldn't I murder your\n#>\"brother\" and say that I was exercising my rights as I saw them, was\n#>doing what felt good, didn't want anyone forcing their morality on me,\n#>or I don't follow your \"morality\" ?\n# \n#I believe that morality is subjective.  Each person is entitled to his\n#own moral attitudes.  Mine are not a priori more correct than someone\n#elses.  This does not mean however that I must judge another on the\n#basis of his rather than my moral standards.  While he is entitled to\n#believe what his own moral sense tells him, the rest of society is\n#entitled to pass laws spelling out punishments for behavior that is\n#offensive to the majority.\n\nWhy?  Your last statement.  Why?  By which authority?  \n\n#Most criminals do not see their behavior as moral.  The may realize that\n#it is immoral and not care.  They are thus not following their own moral\n#system but being immoral.  For someone to lay claim to an alternative\n#moral system, he must be sincere in his belief in it and it must be\n#internally consistent.  \n\nWhy?  Your last statement.  Why are these things necessary?  \n\nAnd believe me, a belief in terrorism can be both sincere and frighteningly\nconsistent.\n\n#Some sociopaths lack an innate moral sense and\n#thus may be incapable of behaving morally.  While someone like Hitler\n#may have believed that his actions were moral, we may judge him immoral\n#by our standards.  Holding that morality is subjective does not mean\n#that we must excuse the murderer.\n\nTrouble is, this would sound just fine coming from someone like Hitler, too.\n(I do *not* mean any comparison or offence, David.)   Try substituting \nthe social minority of your choice for 'sociopath', 'Hitler',  and\n'murderer'.  No logical difference.  Someone like you, vs. someone like\nHitler. Zero sum.  \n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n   I need help in creating my 4x4 perspective matrix.  I'd like to use this for\n   transforming x, y, z, w in some texture mapping code I got from Graphics Gems\n   I.  I have many books which talk about this, but none of them in simple plain\n   english.  If you have Graphics Gems I, I'm talking about page 678.\n\n   I'd like to have a perspective matrix that handles different field-of-views\n   and aspect of course.  Thank's for your help.\n\nca2 = cos(alpha \/ 2) Horizontal\nsa2 = sin(alpha \/ 2)\ncb2 = cos(beta \/ 2) Vertical\nsb2 = sin(beta 7 2)\nZf = Far clipping value\nZn = Near clipping value\n\nMatrix:\n[[ca2\/sa2 0 0 0]\n[0 cb2\/sb2 0 0]\n[0 0 Zf\/(Zf-Zn) 1]\n[0 0 -Zn*Zf\/(Zf-Zn) 0]]","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"[referring to Mary]\n\nI have quite a problem with the idea that Mary never committed a sin.\nWas Mary fully human?  If it is possible for God to miraculously make \na person free of original sin, and free of committing sin their whole\nlife, then what is the purpose of the Incarnation of Jesus?  Why can't\nGod just repeat the miracle done for Mary to make all the rest of us\nsinless, without the need for repentance and salvation and all that?\n\nI don't particularly object to the idea of the assumption, or the\nperpetual virginity (both of which I regard as Catholic dogma about which\nI will agree to disagree with my Catholic brothers and sisters in\nChrist), and I even believe in the virgin birth of Jesus, but this\nconcept of Mary's sinlessness seems to me to be at odds with the\nrest of Christian doctrine as I understand it.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":": I just bought a new IDE hard drive for my system to go with the one\n: I already had.  My problem is this.  My system only had a IDE cable\n: for one drive, so I had to buy cable with two drive connectors\n: on it, and consequently have to switch cables.  The problem is, \n: the new hard drive's manual refers to matching pin 1 on the cable\n: with both pin 1 on the drive itself and pin 1 on the IDE card.  But\n: for the life of me I cannot figure out how to tell which way to plug\n: in the cable to align these.  \n\nMost IDE drives that I have dealt with have had pin 2 labeled on the printed\ncircuit board (this is sufficient to determine which side is which).  If your\nIDE drive does not have a label, then you can look for a polarization notch in\nthe receptacle (the connector on the drive with the pins).  If the receptacle\nis center polarized, that is it has one rectangular notch about 4 mm wide\npositioned in the center of one side, then you can identify pin 1 as follows:\nlook into the pins with the notch at the top, pin 1 is at the top right.  On\nall drives I have seen this is toward the power connector.  As for which pin\nis pin 1 on the controller, well you can use the same criteria but look hard\nfor the labelling of any pin.  Once you know which end pin 1&2 are on or pins\n39 & 40 (the oposite end), then you are all set.  All you need to do is keep\nthe pin 1 end connected to the pin 1 end.  You don't even have to look at the\ncable itself.  Just trace the pin 1 side of the cable through.  Usually the\npin 1 of the cable is identified by a different color (red usually).  But\nbeware - many cable makers are not very careful about this - I have seen cables\nwith pin 40 being the one marked red.  Of course with non-polarized connectors\nthis doesn't matter - you can plug the cable in either way and YOU decide\nwhich side is pin 1.\n\n: Secondly, the cable has like a connector at two ends and one between them.\n: I figure one end goes in the controler and then the other two go into\n: the drives.  Does it matter which I plug into the \"master\" drive\n: and which into the \"Slave\"?  any help appreciated.  thanks...\n\nIt doesn't matter what gets plugged where.  But it does matter how the drives\nare jumpered.  There will be (amongst other options) two jumpers that you\nshould be concerned with on BOTH drives.  One jumper will select whether the\ndrive is the slave or the master.  If it is the master, then a second jumper\nselects whether or not a slave is present.  You will have to consult the \ndocuementation that came with you drives.  If you do not have docuementation,\nthen just call the manufacturers hotline number or fax number if they have\none.  This kind of information is routinely needed by people just like\nyourself.  They will fax you complete info about the jumpers.  If you don't\nhave convenient access to a fax machine, then you can usually get voice\nhelp.  Or post the specific question to this group.  (I probably won't be\nable to help you).\n\nGood Luck","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Here are the final stadings for the USENET Hockey Draft.  Congratulations\nto this year's winner, Dave Wessels of Victoria, B.C., who parlayed his\ninitial 1000 points into 1575.9 points!\n\nThanks to all 262 teams for entering the biggest USENET Hockey Draft ever!\nI hope to hear from you all again this September, for the 7th Annual draft.\n\nIt has been my pleasure running the draft, and I hope you all had fun.\n\n\t- Andrew\n\nUSENET Hockey Draft Standings\nWeek 28\n\nPosn\tTeam\t\t\t\tTotal\tPts\tCash\tLast Posn\n\n1.\tDave Wessels                    1575.9\t1574\t1.9\t(1)\n2.\tGilles Carmel                   1539.0\t1538\t1.0\t(3)\n\tBob Hill                        1539.0\t1515\t24.0\t(2)\n4.\tSeppo Kemppainen                1515.2\t1468\t47.2\t(4)\n5.\tThe Awesome Oilers              1513.0\t1458\t68.6\t(5)\n6.\tHillside Raiders                1503.0\t1496\t7.0\t(6)\n7.\tMak \"The Knife\" Paranjape       1500.0\t1469\t31.0\t(7)\n8.\tJan Stein                       1492.3\t1457\t35.3\t(8)\n9.\tthis years model                1488.6\t1471\t17.6\t(9)\n10.\tTapio Repo                      1486.6\t1467\t19.6\t(10)\n11.\tRangers Of Destiny              1486.0\t1444\t42.0\t(10)\n12.\tThe Underachievers              1459.1\t1449\t10.1\t(13)\n13.\tFRANK'S BIG FISH                1457.0\t1435\t22.0\t(12)\n14.\tGo Flames                       1448.3\t1408\t40.3\t(15)\n15.\tOn Thin Ice                     1444.3\t1412\t32.3\t(14)\n16.\tMopar Muscle Men                1441.7\t1438\t3.7\t(17)\n17.\tlittlest giants                 1439.6\t1404\t35.6\t(16)\n18.\tLindros Losers                  1427.7\t1426\t1.7\t(18)\n19.\tDIE Penguin Bandwaggoners       1412.2\t1392\t20.2\t(19)\n20.\tSamuel Lau (Calgary, Alberta)   1401.9\t1397\t4.9\t(20)\n21.\tBoomer's Boys                   1374.2\t1374\t0.2\t(21)\n22.\tDelaware Wombats                1372.3\t1371\t1.3\t(23)\n23.\tGeneral Accounting Office       1365.9\t1345\t20.9\t(22)\n24.\tMigods Menschen                 1365.6\t1334\t31.6\t(24)\n25.\tWellsy's Buttheads DEC NH       1363.6\t1311\t52.6\t(25)\n26.\tFife Flyers                     1356.4\t1325\t31.4\t(27)\n27.\tRocky Mountain High             1352.8\t1351\t1.8\t(26)\n28.\tDave Snell                      1346.0\t1321\t25.0\t(29)\n29.\tFluide Glacial                  1341.0\t1323\t18.0\t(30)\n30.\tGerald Olchowy                  1337.7\t1304\t33.7\t(28)\n31.\tGaoler                          1317.2\t1306\t11.2\t(31)\n32.\tSmegHeads                       1316.3\t1316\t0.3\t(32)\n33.\tNeural Netters                  1309.3\t1298\t11.3\t(35)\n34.\tThe Young And The Skateless     1307.9\t1265\t42.9\t(33)\n35.\tSam & His Dogs                  1297.6\t1286\t11.6\t(34)\n36.\tArtic Storm                     1293.3\t1254\t39.3\t(37)\n37.\tYoungbucs                       1293.0\t1238\t101.7\t(36)\n38.\tSoft Swedes                     1284.9\t1238\t46.9\t(38)\n39.\tSimmonac                        1280.8\t1260\t20.8\t(46)\n40.\tMilton Keynes Kings             1271.8\t1269\t2.8\t(40)\n41.\tJeff Horvath                    1266.6\t1261\t5.6\t(39)\n42.\tLegion of Hoth                  1265.8\t1250\t15.8\t(45)\n43.\tLe Fleur de Lys                 1264.3\t1239\t25.3\t(43)\n44.\tYan The Man Loke                1263.7\t1263\t0.7\t(44)\n45.\tKuehn Crushers                  1258.1\t1213\t45.1\t(41)\n46.\tHamster from Hoboken            1254.7\t1246\t8.7\t(41)\n47.\tStreaks                         1249.8\t1195\t54.8\t(49)\n48.\tBrian Bergman                   1249.3\t1226\t23.3\t(50)\n49.\tThe Finnish Force               1248.5\t1226\t22.5\t(47)\n50.\tGrant Marven                    1239.9\t1237\t2.9\t(53)\n51.\tice legion                      1239.8\t1211\t28.8\t(48)\n52.\tGoaldingers                     1237.0\t1215\t22.0\t(51)\n53.\tT C OverAchievers               1231.9\t1229\t2.9\t(52)\n54.\tRandy Coulman                   1226.2\t1221\t5.2\t(62)\n55.\tBozrah Bruins                   1225.2\t1180\t45.2\t(54)\n56.\tSkriko Wolves                   1223.4\t1218\t5.4\t(57)\n57.\tbuffalo soldiers                1223.0\t1168\t62.1\t(59)\n58.\tHoudini's Magicians             1221.3\t1203\t18.3\t(56)\n59.\tSteven And Mark Dream Team      1219.1\t1216\t3.1\t(64)\n60.\tReal Bad Toe Jam                1216.9\t1168\t48.9\t(55)\n61.\trec.sport.hockey choices        1216.3\t1215\t1.3\t(58)\n62.\tbemybaby                        1216.2\t1162\t54.2\t(60)\n63.\tLAMP LIGHTERS                   1213.9\t1208\t5.9\t(63)\n64.\tLIPPE                           1212.9\t1199\t13.9\t(61)\n65.\tPhil and Kev's Karma Dudes      1205.8\t1205\t0.8\t(69)\n66.\tDoug Bowles                     1203.0\t1183\t20.0\t(72)\n67.\tBloom County All Stars          1202.3\t1198\t4.3\t(67)\n68.\tTom                             1202.1\t1189\t13.1\t(66)\n69.\tIndianapolis Bennies            1197.8\t1177\t20.8\t(65)\n70.\tBruins                          1196.1\t1196\t0.1\t(68)\n71.\tsmithw                          1195.0\t1174\t21.0\t(70)\n72.\tAIK Exiles                      1188.5\t1154\t34.5\t(77)\n73.\tIowa Hockeyes                   1188.3\t1172\t16.3\t(71)\n74.\tFrank Worthless                 1186.3\t1180\t6.3\t(76)\n75.\tThe Great Pumpkin               1183.4\t1129\t54.4\t(73)\n76.\tNON!                            1182.4\t1166\t16.4\t(74)\n77.\tshooting seamen                 1180.1\t1180\t0.1\t(75)\n78.\tInvisible Inc                   1178.1\t1177\t1.1\t(78)\n79.\tBrad Gibson                     1174.2\t1147\t27.2\t(79)\n80.\tCougarmania                     1170.8\t1146\t24.8\t(80)\n81.\tJohn Zupancic                   1170.1\t1143\t27.1\t(84)\n82.\tDavid Wong                      1166.0\t1111\t66.1\t(83)\n83.\tgarryola                        1165.7\t1156\t9.7\t(85)\n84.\tGary Bergman Fan Club           1163.1\t1158\t5.1\t(86)\n\tStaffan Axelsson                1163.1\t1148\t15.1\t(87)\n86.\tKortelaisen Kovat               1158.0\t1103\t164.1\t(81)\n87.\tChocolate Rockets               1154.5\t1152\t2.5\t(90)\n88.\tPLP Fools                       1153.1\t1153\t0.1\t(82)\n89.\tThe Kamucks                     1152.0\t1097\t76.1\t(97)\n90.\tChubby Checkers                 1150.3\t1134\t16.3\t(88)\n\tKODIAKS                         1150.3\t1149\t1.3\t(93)\n92.\tDerrill's Dastardly Dozen       1150.1\t1128\t22.1\t(89)\n93.\tKen DeCruyenaere                1147.0\t1142\t5.0\t(91)\n94.\tFisher Dirtbags                 1146.7\t1146\t0.7\t(92)\n95.\tNeil Younger                    1145.2\t1131\t14.2\t(106)\n96.\tBSC Oranienburg                 1144.1\t1137\t7.1\t(96)\n97.\tNo Namers                       1138.0\t1083\t58.2\t(94)\n98.\tArsenal Maple Leafs             1137.8\t1134\t3.8\t(98)\n99.\tThe Campi Machine               1137.0\t1082\t65.3\t(95)\n100.\tMombasa Mosquitos               1131.1\t1125\t6.1\t(100)\n101.\tBjoern Leaguen                  1130.0\t1127\t3.0\t(103)\n102.\tEllis Islanders                 1123.6\t1116\t7.6\t(99)\n103.\tZachmans Wingers                1122.8\t1073\t49.8\t(101)\n104.\tKing Suke                       1120.1\t1120\t0.1\t(108)\n105.\tLarry                           1116.8\t1105\t11.8\t(109)\n106.\tVoteNoOct26                     1115.8\t1084\t31.8\t(111)\n107.\tBloodgamers                     1115.1\t1073\t42.1\t(112)\n\tHet Schot Is Hard               1115.1\t1097\t18.1\t(110)\n109.\tHurricane Andrew                1114.6\t1107\t7.6\t(107)\n110.\tDirty White Socks               1114.4\t1071\t43.4\t(104)\n111.\tWormtown Woosbags               1114.0\t1059\t72.6\t(105)\n112.\tBruce's Rented Mules            1111.9\t1100\t11.9\t(112)\n113.\tOklahoma Stormchasers           1111.3\t1083\t28.3\t(116)\n114.\tTeem Kanada                     1111.0\t1095\t16.0\t(114)\n115.\tEdelweiss                       1110.9\t1108\t2.9\t(102)\n116.\tFrank's Follies                 1110.2\t1086\t24.2\t(115)\n117.\tPond Slime                      1109.7\t1109\t0.7\t(118)\n118.\tSPUDS                           1108.6\t1096\t12.6\t(117)\n119.\tPSV Dartmouth                   1097.1\t1090\t7.1\t(119)\n120.\tKokudo Keikaku Bunnies          1096.3\t1056\t40.3\t(124)\n121.\tBlue Talon                      1095.3\t1082\t13.3\t(121)\n122.\tStanford Ice Hawks              1094.2\t1066\t28.2\t(122)\n123.\tTimo Ojala                      1088.3\t1088\t0.3\t(125)\n124.\tMark Sanders                    1088.1\t1077\t11.1\t(120)\n125.\tAye Carumba!!!                  1087.9\t1084\t3.9\t(123)\n126.\tDirty Rotten Puckers            1087.2\t1086\t1.2\t(128)\n127.\tgarys team                      1087.1\t1070\t17.1\t(133)\n128.\tCluster Buster                  1084.6\t1077\t7.6\t(127)\n129.\tHaral                           1083.3\t1076\t7.3\t(126)\n130.\tApricot Fuzzfaces               1081.3\t1058\t23.3\t(129)\n131.\tGary Bill Pens Dynasty          1078.6\t1059\t19.6\t(132)\n132.\tSeattle PFTB                    1077.9\t1055\t22.9\t(135)\n133.\tNesbitt                         1077.1\t1076\t1.1\t(131)\n134.\tThe Lost Poots                  1076.7\t1070\t6.7\t(130)\n135.\tLe Groupe MI                    1076.2\t1046\t30.2\t(137)\n136.\tArctic Circles                  1075.6\t1038\t37.6\t(134)\n137.\tLate Night with David Letterman 1074.0\t1074\t0.0\t(136)\n138.\tWembley LostWeekenders          1071.3\t1071\t0.3\t(145)\n139.\tWild Hearted Sons               1068.9\t1064\t4.9\t(143)\n140.\tDree Hobbs                      1066.4\t1053\t13.4\t(149)\n141.\tCloset Boy's Boys               1066.0\t1018\t48.0\t(142)\n142.\tScott Glenn                     1065.2\t1055\t10.2\t(139)\n143.\tGO BRUINS                       1064.2\t1058\t6.2\t(138)\n144.\tAndy Y F WONG                   1063.5\t1042\t21.5\t(145)\n\tBook 'em Danno's Bushbabies     1063.5\t1053\t10.5\t(148)\n146.\tMcKees Rocks Rockers            1062.1\t1057\t5.1\t(147)\n147.\tboutch 92-93                    1062.0\t1042\t20.0\t(144)\n148.\tteam gold                       1060.7\t1044\t16.7\t(141)\n149.\tGoddess Of Fermentation         1056.2\t1026\t30.2\t(151)\n150.\tconvex stars                    1055.6\t1050\t5.6\t(153)\n151.\tFlying Kiwis                    1055.1\t1046\t9.1\t(140)\n152.\tEinstein's Rock Band            1054.0\t1054\t0.0\t(154)\n153.\tDr Joel Fleishman               1053.7\t1050\t3.7\t(165)\n154.\tTim Rogers                      1053.1\t1045\t8.1\t(152)\n155.\tMY TEAM                         1053.0\t998\t174.8\t(159)\n156.\tTap                             1052.5\t1052\t0.5\t(156)\n157.\tSundogs                         1052.4\t1052\t0.4\t(166)\n158.\tButtered Waffles                1052.0\t1006\t46.0\t(157)\n159.\tGO HABS GO                      1051.0\t1043\t8.0\t(150)\n160.\tPrinceton Canucks               1050.0\t995\t124.2\t(155)\n161.\tHubert's Hockey Homeboys        1049.6\t1049\t0.6\t(157)\n162.\tSatan's Choice                  1047.5\t1033\t14.5\t(164)\n163.\tBob's Blues                     1046.8\t1000\t46.8\t(160)\n164.\tLes Nordiques                   1045.0\t990\t60.4\t(162)\n165.\tPierre Mailhot                  1044.6\t1042\t2.6\t(167)\n166.\tfurleys furies                  1041.6\t1038\t3.6\t(161)\n167.\tSlap Shot Marco                 1039.8\t988\t51.8\t(168)\n168.\tHUNTERS & COLLECTORS            1038.4\t996\t42.4\t(162)\n169.\tThe Dreamers                    1038.0\t983\t63.7\t(173)\n170.\tSan Jose Mahi Mahi              1036.8\t1005\t31.8\t(169)\n171.\tJeff Nimeroff                   1034.8\t986\t48.8\t(171)\n172.\tEast City Jokers                1034.0\t979\t69.1\t(174)\n173.\tThe Leafs Rule!!!!              1033.8\t1008\t25.8\t(170)\n174.\tDarse Billings                  1033.7\t999\t34.7\t(178)\n175.\tFlowers                         1033.0\t978\t113.6\t(177)\n176.\tDaryl Turner                    1030.4\t1028\t2.4\t(175)\n177.\tLANA Inc                        1030.3\t1003\t27.3\t(180)\n178.\triding the pine                 1028.7\t1008\t20.7\t(176)\n179.\tSpinal Tap                      1027.4\t986\t41.4\t(181)\n180.\tStimpy ADG Zeta                 1027.0\t1006\t21.0\t(172)\n181.\tChappel's Chumps                1024.0\t1000\t24.0\t(179)\n182.\tBig Bad Bruins                  1023.5\t1005\t18.5\t(184)\n183.\tEnforcers                       1022.1\t994\t28.1\t(183)\n184.\tMike Mac Cormack Sydney NS CAN  1022.0\t967\t107.2\t(186)\n\tJimParker                       1022.0\t967\t179.0\t(182)\n186.\tBulldogs                        1020.4\t997\t23.4\t(187)\n187.\tYellow Plague                   1019.2\t1005\t14.2\t(195)\n188.\tJeff Bachovchin                 1018.7\t972\t46.7\t(184)\n189.\tAbsolut Lehigh                  1017.9\t1009\t8.9\t(189)\n190.\tvoyageurs                       1015.7\t1013\t2.7\t(188)\n191.\tRepublican Dirty Tricksters     1010.0\t955\t66.0\t(190)\n192.\tNinja Turtles                   1009.3\t1008\t1.3\t(196)\n193.\tDr.D And The S.O.D.             1009.1\t992\t17.1\t(192)\n194.\tHenry's Bar B Q                 1008.7\t1008\t0.7\t(191)\n195.\tBunch of Misfits                1007.8\t984\t23.8\t(193)\n196.\tRobyns Team                     1007.0\t977\t30.0\t(194)\n197.\tCobra's Killers                 1006.7\t975\t31.7\t(202)\n198.\tCherry Bombers                  1005.2\t1004\t1.2\t(203)\n199.\tKuta Papercuts                  1003.5\t985\t18.5\t(200)\n200.\tGreat Expectations              998.3\t996\t2.3\t(201)\n\tAcadien                         998.3\t980\t18.3\t(198)\n202.\tDARMAN'S Dragons                994.3\t966\t28.3\t(199)\n203.\tTeam Melville                   993.9\t947\t46.9\t(197)\n204.\tKiller Apes                     990.3\t966\t24.3\t(205)\n205.\tKaufbeuren Icebreakers          988.6\t951\t37.6\t(206)\n206.\tJayson's Kinky Pucks            987.9\t961\t26.9\t(204)\n207.\tRoger Smith                     987.6\t948\t39.6\t(208)\n208.\tFirebirds                       980.9\t977\t3.9\t(209)\n209.\tIKEA Wholesale                  980.7\t979\t1.7\t(211)\n210.\tUmpire 4 life                   980.1\t969\t11.1\t(207)\n211.\tThose 1st few weeks hurt!       980.0\t925\t55.9\t(210)\n212.\tOutlaws                         975.0\t920\t164.9\t(212)\n213.\t400 Hurricane                   973.1\t941\t32.1\t(223)\n214.\tFrack Attack                    972.3\t945\t27.3\t(219)\n215.\tBelieve it or dont              970.1\t949\t21.1\t(215)\n216.\tTodd's Turkeys                  967.9\t966\t1.9\t(219)\n217.\tThundering Herd                 966.0\t911\t163.6\t(214)\n218.\tKnee Injuries                   965.4\t955\t10.4\t(217)\n219.\tThe 200 Club                    962.8\t956\t6.8\t(213)\n220.\tfred mckim                      962.0\t907\t93.0\t(222)\n221.\tCrazy Euros                     961.9\t944\t17.9\t(218)\n222.\tCreeping Death                  959.3\t938\t21.3\t(216)\n223.\tRyan's Renegades                956.9\t906\t50.9\t(221)\n224.\tpig vomit                       953.3\t952\t1.3\t(224)\n225.\tIce Strykers                    952.0\t897\t105.4\t(225)\n\tdayton bomber                   952.0\t952\t0.0\t(228)\n227.\tCDN Stuck in Alabama            951.3\t941\t10.3\t(227)\n228.\tFighting Geordies               950.0\t895\t141.6\t(226)\n229.\tCafall and Crew                 947.3\t909\t38.3\t(229)\n230.\tShip's Way                      942.7\t934\t8.7\t(235)\n231.\tZipper Heads                    941.9\t908\t33.9\t(232)\n232.\tChris of Death                  941.0\t886\t83.6\t(230)\n233.\tBanko's Beer Rangers            940.2\t936\t4.2\t(232)\n234.\tSwillbellies                    939.7\t921\t18.7\t(231)\n235.\tOz                              934.0\t899\t35.0\t(237)\n236.\tLaubsters II                    931.0\t876\t201.6\t(236)\n237.\tNinja Bunnies                   928.9\t884\t44.9\t(239)\n238.\tGreat Scott                     928.0\t873\t73.3\t(240)\n239.\tJoliet Inmates                  927.8\t882\t45.8\t(238)\n240.\tNY Flames                       923.8\t916\t7.8\t(234)\n241.\tSANDY'S SABRES                  917.7\t913\t4.7\t(243)\n242.\tWidefield White Wolves          910.9\t874\t36.9\t(241)\n243.\tFlorida Tech Burgh Team         909.3\t860\t49.3\t(246)\n244.\tThe Ice Holes                   908.7\t906\t2.7\t(242)\n245.\tSouth Carolina Tiger Paws       903.0\t848\t78.4\t(245)\n\tDaves Team                      903.0\t871\t32.0\t(244)\n247.\tMudville Kings                  900.6\t873\t27.6\t(250)\n248.\tRedliners                       898.9\t883\t15.9\t(252)\n249.\troadrunners                     898.5\t880\t18.5\t(249)\n250.\tFor xtc                         898.2\t890\t8.2\t(248)\n251.\tLeos Blue Chips                 894.4\t884\t10.4\t(247)\n252.\tNew Jersey Rob                  891.7\t891\t0.7\t(251)\n253.\tPat Phillips                    891.1\t881\t10.1\t(253)\n254.\tStewart Clamen                  869.6\t868\t1.6\t(254)\n255.\tDemon Spawn                     868.0\t843\t25.0\t(255)\n256.\tSunnyvale Storm                 815.2\t815\t0.2\t(256)\n257.\tAllez les Blues                 803.0\t748\t476.9\t(257)\n258.\tUp For Sale Hockey Club         785.0\t762\t23.0\t(258)\n259.\tPetes Picks                     783.0\t728\t168.5\t(259)\n260.\tRINACO                          780.0\t725\t114.0\t(260)\n261.\tBrenz Revenge                   705.0\t701\t4.0\t(261)\n262.\tDinamo Riga                     658.0\t603\t571.6\t(262)\n-- \nAndrew Scott                    | andrew@idacom.hp.com\nHP IDACOM Telecom Operation     | (403) 462-0666 ext. 253","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"((fluffy bi fantasy squelched))\n\n\nDear Mr. Elf,","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\tThe only problem is, Dave Kingman was *always* taking off.\nRosh Hashana, Yom Kippur, Easter, the day Elvis died (8\/16), the entire\nspring training month of Ramadan, Purim, the 4th of July (both games \nthat day), my birthday (OK, during the World Series, he never had to \nplay there), Memorial day (both games that day), ...\n\tGuys, help me out here.  I've run fresh out of holidays that \ncoincide with the baseball season and I'm trying to catalogue all the\ndays in his career that Dave Kingman (or at least his bat) went AWOL.\n\tA complete religious calendar detailing every holiday in every\nextant religion in the Western Hemisphere would be appreciated.  Only\nthen can we truly be certain that Dave Kingman observed every holiday\never conceived...\n\t:-), of course ...NOT!\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nI don't see how this logically follows.  True enough, Mary received a blessing\nbeyond any granted in all the history of humanity by being privileged to be \nthe mother of the Savior.  It says nothing about Mary needing to be a \"blessed \nperson\" _first_ in order that she might thereby be worthy to bear the Son of \nGod.  Again, I think the problem is that as humans we can't comprehend how the \nsinless Incarnation could spring from sinful human flesh and God's Spirit.\nRather than simply accept the gracious miracle of God, we must needs try\nto dope out a mechanism or rationale as to how this could be.  Mary's own\nwords, \n\n\"...my spirit rejoices in God _my Savior_, for he has regarded the low\n estate of his handmaiden,...\"\n\nsound like the words of a human aware of her own humanity, in need of a \nSavior, similar to what David proclaimed in his psalms...not the words\nof a holy being with no further need for God's grace.\n\nI really apologize for harping on this, I don't suppose it's important.\nIt's just that I see Mary and Joseph and the Baby reduced to placid,\nserene figurines I feel we lose the wonder in the fact that God chose\nto come down to you and I, to be born of people like you and I, to share\nour existence and redeem us from it's fallenness by his holy Incarnation.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nfranks> This is my first post, so no DoD#.\n\nWould you like to know what DOD is?  If you do, feel free to ask.\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nThat's funny, I thought you were making a statement about what\npeople think.    In fact, I see it quoted up there.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\nHowdy...  I think you would be interested in Infini-D 2.5 for the Mac.  There\nis no DOS or Windows version.  It's quite an amazing program.\n\n\"Some\" of the features:\n\n*  Bevel Text\n*  Timeline based animation sequencer\n*  Realtime bounding box preview\n*  Object linking\n*  Phong Shading\n*  Ray Tracing\n*  Bounding Box shading\n*  Wireframe shading\n*  Ghourad shading\n*  Flat shading\n*  Anti-aliasing (none, low, medium, high)\n*  Environment maps\n*  Quicktime support (wrap a QT movie around an object)\n*  Procedural surfaces\n*  Composed surfaces (for layering surfaces)\n*  Alpha channel support\n*  Import EPS, DXF, and Swivel 3D files\n*  Export DXF and Swivel 3D files\n*  Spline based animation\n*  Animation assistant (for creating smooth movements and other stuff)\n*  Object morphing (surfaces and bevels morph too)\n\n... And lots more that I can't remember right now...\n\nAnyway, it's not as expensive as some of the other animation\/rendering\npackages.  I think you can get it for around $699 from MacWarehouse.\nThey also have educational discounts...\n\nWell, hope that helps a bit.\n\nSee ya...","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nNonsense! I've taught fifth, sixth, seventh . There are a few early puberty \ntypes in fifth and it has nothing to do with early sexual experience. ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"If you can modify the design of the DTMF decoder, the ideal comunications\nwould be over a multi-drop system, like RS-485.  RS-485 boards are available\nfor PC's, probably cheaper than a bunch of RS-232 channels, and RS-485 is\ncheaper to build onto your satellite modules, using only a single supply\n8-pin DIP driver chip.  Software at the PC end would be similarly complex\nfor either RS-232 or RS-485, in my opinion.  The higher data rates possible\nwith RS-485 would permit quasi-simultaneous data transmission.\nHope this helps.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nA map of Italy showing the states\/provinces(?) is in the FreeHand\n3.1 for Windows clip art collection. Corel Draw 3.0 clip art has\nan outline map of Italy.\n\n\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Look for Spice or PSpice\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nBecause the Gun loonies were firing on vehicles with 50mm amunition that\nhas a range of 3000 meters.\n\nNext question.\n\n\nThe problem is of course the laws that allow a bunch of raving nutters\nto collect a huge stack of arms in the first place.\n\nThe sequence of events meant that there really was no option but to\nattempt some sort of breakthrough via an intervention. If the FBI had\nhad the stomach for it they could have mounted a commando type\nraid and attempted to save the children by shooting all the adults.\nIt really was a no win situation. Koresh had plenty of opportunity \nto give up and stand trial for the murder of the 4 ATF officers. Instead\nhe ordered the murder of the children.\n\n\nIn order to reject the word of the FBI and BATF it is neccessary to beleive\nthe words of a man who has just murdered 17 children and ordered the \nsuicide\/murder of his other 80 followers. According to the account given\nthe BATF attempted to serve a warrant upon Koresh at the ranch and were met\nby gunfire in a deliberate attempt to murder them. The Koresh\/gun supporter\nclaim that the BATF started shooting simply does not stand up. If the \nAFT had gone there to start shooting they would have gone with heavier\ngrade weaponry than standard issue handguns. For all practical purposes\nthey were unarmed, the B-D followers had automatic weapons.\n\n\nThe B-D seige could not be allowed to go on indefinitely. The B-D were\nquite capable of commiting mass suicide and murdering the children at any\ntime. A commando assault was the only other likely action that could have\nachieved that objective, that would have been very risky, orders of \nmagintude harder than Antebbe or the Iranian Embassy Seige. Airplanes\nand Embassies are not designed for defense against attack ranch \napocalypse was. 6 terrorists are far easier to disloge without casualties\nthan 80.\n\nAllowing the siege to go on was not an option either, besides the serious\nrisk that Koresh would proclaim armageddon at any moment there was the \nquestion of the difficulties of keeping the emmergency team on standby over\na prolonged period. The longer the siege went on the more mentally prepared\nKoresh and his followers would be for a prolonged siege. Rather than go\nin prematurely the mistake was probably to go in too soon.\n\n\nCan you think of a better way of getting the children out?\n\nA 100% certain way?\n\n\nThe people who do not want gun control must obviously discount the entire\ngovernment story. This is simply rationalisation. It is not enough for \nthem to simply dismiss the government as incompetent. That would require\nthem to come up with a solution themselves. Instead they have to come\nup with a government conspiracy theory whereby the government decided to\nset out to murder 80 people just to set up some sort of scare to alow them\nto get gun control legislation through.\n\nThis conspiracy theory assumes that the BATF deliberately got 4 of its\nagents killed and that the FBI etc actually enjoy sitting out in the\nmiddle of Texas being shot at by religious nutters.\n\nStill the conspiracy theory is comforting, it allows them to pretend that\nWACO proves nothing except about how incompetent the government is in \nresolving a hostage crisis. No govt in the world has ever faced a \ncomparable situation, quite probably there was no manner in which it\ncould be peacefully resolved. The blame does not rest on the FBI, it\nrests on the fact that Koresh was allowed to get so far, in particular\nthe person who tipped the B-D off in advance has the murder of 4 ATF\nagents and 17 children on his or her conscience.\n\n\nThere are a large number of people in the US who predict the end of society\npreach salvation through armed security. The fact is that these are the\nvery people who pose the threat to society in the first place. The next WACO\nmay not be religious nutters but a political movement. A splinter group\nof the Klu Klux Klan taking over a schoolhouse in a black area for example\nand holding several hundred children hostage.\n\nThe only possible solution to such situations that can work is to prevent\nthem arising. No other government in the world has faced such a situation. \nthis is because no other government has so carelessly allowed high power\nweaponry to become avaliable to any little Hitler or would be Messiah\nto set themselves up as dictator in their own little empire.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"From my own notes on this subject....\n\nMethods to automatically passwd Authorization from one machine to another.\n  This also includes the problem of notifing the remote host of the current\nDISPLAY that is being used.\n\n1\/ Use rsh\/rexec\/on...  (the method in the xauth manual)\n      Set up the your .rhosts file in the home directory on the remote\n  machine so that a password in not required to remotly execute commands.\n\n         xauth extract - $DISPLAY | rsh other xauth merge -\n\n  This method is also used by xrsh to pass authorization. My vampire\n  program also uses a variation, however I wrap it as part of the remote\n  command sequence  (EG:  xauth add $auth)\n\n     Included in this method is the use of `xrlogin' and `xrsh' to do\n  this job for you. These programs usally (the newer ones that is) allow\n  you to pass a secified list of ENVIRONMENT variables which includes\n  the `DISPLAY' and\/or a copy of the authorization code required.\n\n     The `xon' program available (if enabled) on sun machines will also\n  pass environment variables, as well as the current directory.  You will\n  however be required to store the Authority in such a variable for\n  passing. Unless you are also have shared home directories.\n\n    WARNING: Environment variables and command line arguments are visible\n  in `ps' listing with the appropiate flags. As such passing authorization\n  information in environment variables or as arguments is not recomended.\n  The recommended method as given in the manual (shown above) is safe from\n  the view of other users.\n\n2\/ Wrap it as part of the TERM environment variable.\n      This method uses the fact that most remote command executors do pass\n  the TERM environment variable to the remote host. It is then a matter of\n  an appropiate script in your remote .login file to extract the information\n  from the TERM environment variable and set up things appropiatly.\n    A version of the xrlogin script is available on the network which does\n  this. Basically you change the TERM environment variable before the\n  actual call to rlogin is performed, to include your DISPLAY and your\n  authorization.\n    On the remote machine you then extract this information and return the\n  TERM environment variable to normal BEFORE you use it for reseting or\n  stty'ing your terminal.\n\n  ---8<---\n  script for launching rlogin:\n    #!\/bin\/sh\n    # ~\/bin\/rl   --- Rlogin with display:\n    if [ -n \"$DISPLAY\" ]; then\n      case \"$DISPLAY\" in\n        :*) DISPLAY=`hostname`$DISPLAY ;;\n      esac\n      TERM=\"$TERM&$DISPLAY&`xauth nextract - $DISPLAY`\"\n      export TERM\n    fi\n    rlogin $*\n  ---8<---\n  add to your .cshrc or .login\n    if ( $?TERM ) then\n      if ( `echo $TERM | tr -cd '&'` != '' ) then\n        echo \"$TERM\" | cut '-d&' -f3 | xauth nmerge -\n        setenv DISPLAY `echo \"$TERM\" | cut '-d&' -f2`\n        setenv TERM    `echo \"$TERM\" | cut '-d&' -f1`\n      endif\n    endif\n  ---8<---\n  xterm command to use\n    xterm -T hostname -e ~\/bin\/rl hostname\n  ---8<---\n\n3\/ NFS.\n     Write it to a file on a shared NFS partition you have access to.\n   Note that if the home directories are NFS mounted, then authorization\n   is automatically passed, Hoever you will still have to pass your\n   DISPLAY environment variable via a file or other means. IE:\n\n      login host:       echo $DISPLAY > ~\/.X11host\n      remote host:      setenv DISPLAY `cat ~\/.X11host`\n\n4\/ Finger for the info in a .plan file\n      This involves encrypting the information into your `.plan' or\n  `.project' and having the remote machine finger for the information.\n  This has the disadvantage of having the information to anyone fingering\n  the user.  Thus requiring a encryption method that is uniq to each\n  individual.  IE: the method of decyrption must not be shared or known\n  by others, nor should it be easy to determine.\n    A improvment is to use the `who fingered me' technique to only give\n  the information only to your own remote accounts and not just to anyone\n  who is asking.\n    This last method was developed last year by a second year here, untill\n  I explained to him the need for the encryption, at which point he gave\n  up this method. It is however a valid method. It is easer than (2) but\n  less secure.\n\n\n  Anthony Thyssen - (SysProg @ Griffith University)     anthony@cit.gu.edu.au\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n    \"Magic is Real -- unless declared an integer\"  ---  John P.Melvin","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"[reply to frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer)]\n \n \n \nIf the Good is undefined (undefinable?) but you require of everyone that\nthey know innately what is right, you are back to subjectivism.\n \n \nDitto here.  An evaluative statement implies a value judgement on the\npart of the person making it.\n \n \nPretty perceptive, that Prof. Flew.\n \n \n \nPlease explain how this helps.  I don't see your argument.\n \n \n \nThis makes no sense either.  Flew is arguing that this is where the\nobjectivist winds up, not the subjectivist.  Furthermore, the nihilists\nbelieved in nothing *except* science, materialism, revolution, and the\nPeople.\n \n \n \nAnd also not the position of the subjectivist, as has been pointed out\nto you already by others.  Ditch the strawman, already, and see my reply\nto Mike Cobb's root message in the thread Societal Basis for Morality.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I have two quations to ask:\n\n1)  Does it cause the body any harm if one picks one's nose?  For example,\nmight it lead to a loss of ability to smell?\n\n2)  Is it harmful for one to eat one's nose pickings?","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"RE: Irish\/Gaelic TrueType Font wanted - synopsis\n\n \nMany thanks to those who responded to my question.  Unfortunately I have\nhad no luck in actually getting such a font, and a lot of people interested\nin geting one, and so I have decided to create my own truetype font fitting \nthat description.  This font is based on that used in the 1904 issue of \nDineen's dictionary and is typical of that found in Irish books from the \nearly part of the century.  This may take me some time to do (in my\nlimited spare time) but I'll make it available to anyone who is interested, \nwhen it is ready.\n\nThe responses I received are summerised below:\n\nKevin Donnelly (caoimhin@smo.ac.uk) mentioned that Michael Everson\n(everson@irlearn.ucd.ie) had developed some Clo\/ Gaelach fonts\nfor the Macintosh and may be able to advise me.  I contacted Michael\nand he told me that he has three fonts available for the Macintosh, and\nthat he will eventually port them to the PC, but that he will be charging \nIR 100 (about $160) for each one.\n\npbryant@ukelele.GCR.COM mentioned that he uses two font that have a\n'nice Irish\/Gaelic look to them'.  These are \"Durrow\" and \"American \nUncial-Normal\".  I don't know where you can get these but I don't\nthink that they have the effects I am looking for.\n\nFinally, rhiannon@netcom.com (Rhia) mentioned that the \"Meath\" font\nincluded in the Casady & Greene Fluent Laser Fonts 2 package\nis very much like what I was describing.  I faxed Casady & Greene for\ninfo but got no reply.\n\nSo that's it.  I'll post these newsgroups when I make my font available.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"that\nhis\npositive.\n\n\tClint Malarchuk\n\n\n  What has happened to him since?\n\n\tAssigned to San Diego Gulls at the being of the season I believe\n\n  What\n\nIt was Uwe Krupp and a Blues player, though Uwe's skate I beleive cut  \nClint.  He has since be traded to the Isles in the LaFontaine deal.\n\n  Has this ever\n\nThis is the only time I know of.  \n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"HI, all\n    I study about WM_DELETE_WINDOW atom in Open Look. I study the book -->\n\"Unix Desktop guide to OPEN LOOK\", I run the example of chapter 8, but It\nis not the result described as book's figure 8.1. Dose anyone read the book?\nOr run the example (winprop.c)? What is the problem?\n    I am curious about WM_DELETE_WINDOW programming... Anyone help me?\n                       Thanks in advance for any help!!!\n                                                            IOP\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":" \n(Deletion)\n(rest deleted)\n \nThat's a fallacy, and it is not the first time it is pointed out.\nFor one, you have never given a set of morals people agree upon. Unlike\na football. Further, you conveniently ignore here that there are\nmany who would not agree on tghe morality of something. The analogy\ndoes not hold.\n \nOne can expect sufficiently many people to agree on its being a football,\nwhile YOU have to give the evidence that only vanishing number disagrees\nwith a set of morals YOU have to give.\n \nFurther, the above is evidence, not proof. Proof would evolve out of testing\nyour theory of absolute morals against competing theories.\n ","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\tI'll third the recommendation as Miracle Spooge.\n\n\tDon't go to the dealer to get it or what happened to me might happen\nto you:  you put a deposit on a new bike.\n\nSigh,","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nWatch the videotape carefully, the CNN coverage was fairly decisive.\n\nThe first fire starts in the Tower, this is three storeys high and there\nis a flag to the right of it on the picture. The second fire starts \nin another tower which is similar to the first only two storeys high.\nThe flag is on the left in the camera picture that shows this fire\nstarting.\n\nThus the camera pictures cleraly show the fire starting at two separate\nlocations. The FBI report a third. I was not able to verify it from the\nvideotape however someone else identified a fire shown to be starting behind\nthe small tower in the second (flag on left) camera angle.\n\n\nThe flames coming out of the building are yellow\/orange. This is the\nnormal colour for carbon compounds burning. The flames were those of a \nsolid or confined liquid burning, not of a gas exploding. \n\n\nThe explosion that occurs mid way along the building is certainly not an\nexplosive though. The cloud itself is on fire. This would seem to\nbe most likely to be some sort of fuel oil store exploding rather than\nthe explosion of a magazine.\n\n\n\nDepends entirely on how they were distributed. You would not be able\nto identify ammunition rounds going off from video camera coverage\nfrom a mile away. If and when the FBI release pictures from cmeras\non the armoured vehicles (which presumably exist) it might be possible to \nget a clearer picture. \n\nIf anyone expects to see explosions hollywood style aka Rambo movies then\nremember that in real life cars do not burst into flames when going over cliffs.\n\nJust about the most you could expect would be to see the grenades\ngoing off. Since the building was designed to be blast proof to some\nextent it would be difficult to distinguish the grenades going off from\nthe collapse of the building due to the fire.\n\n\n\nParanoia.\n\n\nYou wouldn't beleive the FBI if they showed you a picture of Koresh himself\nsetting light to the place. Your mindset is such that you are simply\nunable to accept as true anything that might suggest that a group of\nheavily armed weapons fanatics might indeed be in the wrong.\n\nThe gun lobby can't accept that the B-D set light to the place because\nthat would mean that Koreh had murdered 17 children, that would mean that\ntheir taking his account of the murder of 4 BATF agents would be even\nless credible than it was to start with.\n\nKoresh had 51 days to come out with his hands up and face a fair trial. \nInstead he ordered the murder of everyone in the place.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Cool off!  These people have as much right to be here as you do.\n(BTW, is this the kind of friendly, helpful service we should\nexpect from Cray?)\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"16. What is the condition of the propane tank mentioned by the BD\nsurvivors? I.e. is it crushed and does it have tread marks on it?\n-- \nDave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Hiyas ALL,\n\nUpon getting Animated Desktop for Windows as a gift from my boyfriend, I \ncouldn't wait to install it. I had gotten an advertisement for it and put \nit aside \nwith my list of 'I Wants.' After installing the software, it didn't load. \nNo part of \nthe software would load even though the install went seemingly well.\n\n\tI called Deltapoint with the problem and after asking me twenty \nmillion different questions about my system.. concluded that I had one of \nthe \nsystems that the software was 'incompatible with'. Of course they're \nwilling to \ngive me my $$$ back.. What a waste of time and energy.  The folks on their \nsupport line, although nice, are extremely ignorant regarding the workings \nof \nWindows 3.1. \n\tAfter my experience with the installation of the SB 16, I  learned \nsome of the function of windows dll files. Before sending back Desktop \nAnimator,  decided to do some fooling around with the different versions of \n\n.dll files I had. I had 2 versions of cpalette.dll one dated 8\/92 and > \n100K the \nother dated 1\/93 and smaller (the 1\/93 smaller version was the one supplied \n\nwith Desktop Animator). I moved the bigger, older version of cpalette.dll  \nto a \ndirectory outside my path. (For some reason, I had the older Cpalette.dll \nin my \nWindows directory and the newer cpallette in my windows\\system directory.) \nWhen I did this, the animator's editor loaded.. and so did 2 other of the \napplications in the package.. the main application still didn't load. Does \nanyone have any ideas as to why this would occur or any further suggestions ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"A friend of mine who owns a pc said that he recently got a program that can\nformat a disk that can exceed the normal capacity of a HD disk. Apparently it\nrewrites the driver or takes or the driver or _something_ that allows it get\nmore space out of a normal HD floppy disk.  It supposedly gets upto 1.6 Megs\n(so something like 1640K?). I don't have the program - since I can't use it\nand its supposed to be called something like \"FORM16\" or something like that.\n\nMy question is whether its possible to do this on the Mac and if its not\npossible is it due to hardware limitations. A developer friend of mine said\nthat it might be possible but he doesn't deal with this aspect of the field\nmuch.\n\nThanks for any information contributed.\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nNot anymore!  Recent archaeological inspection of the site presents pretty\ncompelling evidence that the \"mass suicide\" at Masada never occured.  This\nevidence was so compelling tha the Tzahal no long hold their secret ceremony\nat the fortress.\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Hi.\nI'd like to substitute the exciting win3.1 opening logo for our own\ncompany logo at boot up time. Is this a matter of replacing the logo\nfile with our own logo? And what format should the company logo be\nin? Thanks.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I have a lots of .cgm files produced by NCAR Graph Utility V3.00.\n\nThey are all color graphs, and I want to print them out. \n\nThe printers I own are Postscript, and HP 7475a. Anyone who have \n\nexperiences in this please tell me, e-mail me will be very nice.\n\nOr if someone knows how to convert those .cgm  files into .gif\n\npcx, .bmp .... , it will helps a lot. \n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nThe IRS doesn't need to rely on the Federal Marshall's Services; the\nIRS has its own Swat teams. I saw a picture of one in an article on\nthe IRS in some magazine or other.\n-- \nDave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nMathew:\n\nCould you let us know when this happened, so I can see if my version\nis as up-to-date as possible?  I try to re-save the FAQs once in a \nwhile, but otherwise I ignore their regular postings, so I wouldn't \ngenerally notice such a change.\n\nAnd I like to stay current.\n\nThanks,","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Just to add to this vein, consider that range of a first baseman is not\nthe only important thing.  He is IMO the best fielder of bad throws from\nthe other infielders.  I have seen him scoop balls out of the dirt, catch\nballs off a large bounce, take down balls over his head, wide, etc. ad\ninfinitum.  *And* he gets the out, much of the time.  Some of the things\nhe does to save his infielders of errors are amazing.  You have to give\nMattingly credit for being able to do all of that while keeping his foot\nnear the bag (yes, I am sure he gets a few calls because he is Mattingly :-)\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I'm using Norton Cache 5.0, which is really nice but horrible incompatible.\nSome games won't work it, my streamer software won't work with it and Windows\ndoesn't like it at all. But when copying or deleting lots of small files, only\nNCACHE is really fast. You see, to write a file the FAT must be changed. But to\nwrite 1000 files the FAT must be changed only once. Is there any cache program\nout there which is smart enough to do the same and good enough to run with all my\napplications? Any help is really appreciated.\n \n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"david@c-cat.UUCP (Dave) write:\nwe are talking about a SCSI-1 device (e.g. HD) on a SCSI-2 Controller.\n\nHere is a rewrite of my Mac & Info sheet SCSI section:\nSCSI: only external device expansion interface common to both Mac and IBM.\n Allows the use of any device: hard drive, printer, scanner, Nubus card \n expansion {Mac Plus only}, some monitors, and CD-ROM.  Normal {asynchronous}\n SCSI is 5 Mhz;  fast {synchronous} SCSI is 10 Mhz.  Difference between these\n modes is mainly in the software drivers.\n Main problem:  there are a lot of external devices which are internal \n terminated which causes problems for more then two devises off the SCSI port \n {A SCSI chain is supposed to be terminated ONLY at the begining and end. \n Any other set up causes problems for either Mac or IBM}. \nSCSI-1:  8-bit; 7 devices per SCSI controller.  asynchronous {~1.5MB\/s ave}\n and synchronous {5MB\/s max} transfers.  8-bit SCSI-2 is often mistaken for\n a fast version of SCSI-1 {see SCSI-2 for details}.\nSCSI-2: fully SCSI-1 compliant. SCSI-2 mode - 10 devices per SCSI controller.\n 8-bit SCSI-2 is implimented as a very fast SCSI-1 since it can run using\n SCSI-1 hardware and software drivers which limits it to 7 devices, which\n results in it sometimes being mistakenly consitered part of SCSI-1.  16-bit\n and 32-bit SCSI-2 require different ports, electronics, and SCSI software\n drivers from SCSI-1 {Which makes them more expensive than other SCSI\n interfaces}.  32-bit SCSI seems to run only in synchronous mode, hence term\n 'wide and fast SCSI' Transfer speeds are 4-6MB\/s with 10MB\/s burst {8-bit},\n 8-12MB\/s with 20MB\/s burst {16-bit}, and 15-20MB\/s with 40MB\/s burst\n {32-bit}.\n\n8-bit SCSI-2 is the BIGGEST headache due to the fact that it is the ONLY SCSI-2 \nthat I know of that can pump SCSI-2 speeds through SCSI-1 devices and software\ncontrolers.  Its MAIN implimentation is on the Mac though you do see adds\nfor SCSI-2 at 10MB\/s maximum throughput for PCs.  Since 8-bit SCSI-2 does NOT\nNEED all the hardware {including electonics} and software of 16-bit and 32-bit\nSCSI-2 it is the CHEEPEST of the SCSI-2 interfaces.  Just pop out the SCSI-1\nelectornics and pop in 8-bit SCSI-2 electronics.  Some people consider\n16-bit where SCSI-2 REALLY starts {I USED to be one of them} but\n4-6MB\/s average though put with a theoretical burst of 10MB\/s is NOT SCSI-1\nbut is 8-bit SCSI-2.\nRule of thumb: if it is SCSIn and OVER 5MB\/s then it is SOME type of SCSI-2.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"If there is a \"USA Today ftp site\" could someone please post it to the \n   newsgroup so everyone will stop posting the \"send it to me too\" articles.\n   I'm sure many people woulds like to know so why not just post it to the net\n   rather than mailing hundreds of people. \n\n   Just a thought. \n\n\n    Thanks,    Ryan Robin.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nI'm very grateful for scott's reflections on this oft-quoted phrase.  Could\nsomeone please remind me of the Scriptural source for it?  (Rom. 12.9 doesn't\ncount, kids.)  The manner in which this little piece of conventional wisdom is\napplied has, in my experience, been uniformly hateful and destructive.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Derek....\n\nThere is a tool available to reset the service indicator on BMWs but the lights\nwill come back on after 2-3 weeks. The tool is in fact illegal (in Europe \natleast). It is often the case that the unsuspecting punter trots off to buy a \nused BMW and a few weeks later, all the lights come on! Other than that, I know \nof no other tool.... anyone else? \n\nAbout changing oil every 15,000 miles.... thats ok.... on newer Audis, they \nonly require it after every 12,000 miles (I am talking about an oil change)\nJust a query: do you drive your car VERY VERY carefully? Like no sudden \nacceleration etc? If yeah, then the 15,000 M oil change seems quite reasonable.\nBut if you drive kinda fast... I'd get a bit up tight abot that 15,000 thingy\n\n(a point to note: just because the first light came on at 3k, doesn't mean\nall the others will come on every 3k too)","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"[ideas that are claimed not to work deleted...]\n\nHow about putting your system inside a faraday cage?  Even I could build\none...\n\/Jim\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nWell, that was an easy decision.  No more Bianchi anything for me.\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"A person sees the front of their home is strewn with garbage. That\nperson removes the trash, and sweeps the sidewalk. His next door neigh-\nbors have not. The person then approaches his two neighbors and talks\nto them about cleaning the front of their homes, and why it would be\ngood for their own living conditions, and that of the neighborhood.\n   There's nothing wrong with holding your neighbors accountable for\ntheir actions. That is the basis for a viable, safe community.\n\nRegards,","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Being wierd again, so be warned:\n\nIs there a plan to put a satellite around each planet in the solar system to\nkeep watch? I help it better to ask questions before I spout an opinion.\n\nHow about a mission (unmanned) to Pluto to stay in orbit and record things\naround and near and on Pluto.. I know it is a strange idea, but why not??\nIt could do some scanning of not only Pluto, but also of the solar system,\nobjects near and aaroundpluto, as well as SETI and looking at the galaxy\nwithout having much of the solar system to worry about..","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":" > Lines: 13\n > NNTP-Posting-Host: yfn.ysu.edu\n > \n > \n > \n > >Our little Goebbels, to those who forgot, is talking about an alleged\n > >\"infection\" of \"fine Egyptian men\", by a \"Mossad agent caught spying\n > >with her father in Egypt\". As noted before, the women is a Muslim\n > >Israeli, she was not a spy, and she didn't infect anybody.\n > \n > The Jewish version of the story!!\n > \n > \"A Muslim Israeli.\"  I thought it is a Jewish State.\n > Hasn't it yet been defined up to this point?\n > \n\n     This is a post from a hospital?  The inmates from foam the cushion ward\n  have net access!","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"To all the readers of talk.politics.mideast,alt.flame,alt.stupidity\n\nI am posting this message on behalf of a staff member at UCDavis whose \naccount had been broken into and used to post offensive messages to\nall these groups.\n\n\t--Dave\n\n----begin included message from szljubi@othello.ucdavis.edu\n\n\nPlease be advised that the person(s) sending to you the inflammatory\nremarks you have been receiving have been doing so by ILLEGALLY accessing\nmy account.\n\nOur campus Information Technology security group has cut off my account's\naccess to this hacker, and every effort is being made to track down this\nperson.\n\nI apologize profusely that you have been subjected to the derogatory\ncomments made by this person and I detest that my name was attached to\nthem.\n\nThank you to those of you who alerted our campus security about the nature\nof this problem.\n\nSincerely,\nP. Ljubi\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nI define faith as \"belief, in the abscense(sp?) of evidence\". I also\ninclude in \"evidence\" past experiences. Because I have no past experience\nin a god actually having an effect on my life and because I have never\nseen evidence for any god beyond what can be explained without the\nneccessity of a god or which is more convincing than the many fictional\nworks I have read (And other reasons), I do not believe in any god(s).\nFrom what I have seen, some people reconcile this lack of evidence by\nusing faith.\nIt is faith in that sense (the only way I _currently_ understand the word\n\"faith\") that I find intellectually dishonest.\n\n\nPascal's wager goes something like this:\nPremise #1: Either there is or there isn't a God.\nPremise #2: If God exists, He wants us to believe and will damn us for not\nbelieving.\nPremise #3: If God does not exist, then belief in God doesn't matter\nbecause death is death, anyway.\nConclusion: Belief in God is superior to non-belief because\nnon-belief damns us to eternal punishment if we are wrong, while belief in\nGod only wastes a little time in life if we are wrong.\n\nSound pretty straightforward and is logically sound. The problem is,\nPremise #1 presupposes 1:1 odds between belief and non-belief. This is\nflat out wrong, because of the sheer number of religions out there and the\nfact that, for the most part, the religions are mutually exclusive. I have\nheard theists referred to as \"99% atheists\" because they believe in their\ngod (or gods) to be the _one_ god (or set of gods). The consequence of\nthis is \"what if I pick the wrong god?\" Suddenly, the odds don't look so\ngood because picking the wrong god or wrong doctrines of a god still\nleaves you with the possibility of being wrong and being damned to another\ngod's version of hell.\n\n\nI don't see how \"disillusionment\" enters into it. You see, I presented my\nmother's treatment of me to show the cause of my questioning my atheism, a\nquestioning which continues to this day. I had already been an atheist for\nfive years before having any contact with my mother's version of\nChristianity. If anything, I had become somewhat disillusioned with\natheism (uh, oh, I thought, What if there *is* a God?). Yes, in a way, I\nhave also become disillusioned by many religions, simply because I had\nthought at one time that they had all the answers, if I only found the\nright one.\nI'm still looking, but each time I look in a different place, I become a\nlittle stronger in my attitude (belief, if you will, no faith, though,\nit's based on the evidence of past experience) that I'll never find a\nreligion which has all the answers.\nSorta like looking for Easter eggs. The more time it takes you to find the\nnext one, the more convinced you become that you may already have found\nall the eggs you're going to find.\nSomeone else mentioned that critisism isn't going to make me think any\nmore highly of Christians. I have a contrary position: Constructive\ncritisism will likely improve my attitude towards Christians. Abusive\ncritisism will turn me off.\nNo accusations to you, Mr. Sapienza. I merely slipped that into this post\nbecause I forgot to reply to that one.\n\n\nMuppets and Garlic Toast forever.\n\nMax (Bob) Muir","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Does anyone know of any c or c++ libraries for preparing\nand displaying quickly pages of mixed text, mathematical equations,\nand graphics (circles,ellipses,etc) on the vdu? The maths wouldnt\nneed to be up to TeX quality, but it would be useful to be scaleable.\nThe main thing would be to be able to generate the display quickly\nfrom a minimum set of formatting code.\nThanks,\nEd Campbell\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nBe careful that you do not have any weight of the helmet resting on the\nmirror.  It will depress the foam liner in the helmet.  That is not the\nkind of foam that bounces back, like foam rubber.  Its purpose in life\nis to absorb energy in an impact as it is compressed by your noggin.\nIf your mirror compresses it, there is that much less energy absorbing\ncapacity left to cushon your noggin in a crash.\n\nI found the right handlebar to be a good spot, if on the sidestand.\nHang with the chinbar facing up, balanced across the grip and brake\nlever such that the weight of the helmet doesn't compress any of the\nchinbar foam.  This is more challanging with an open face helmet.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Hello.  My colleague has a Samtron monitor.  On the manual \n\tcover, it says SC-431 and SC-428 for model numbers.  The \t\n\tmanual does not specify if it is interlaced or non-interlaced,\n\tso does anyone know what it is?\n\tthanks\n\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nJapan is _much_ more open than Korea.\n\nYes.  A Pontiac Grand Am suffers a factor of _2_ increase in price\nwhen it is exported to Japan.\n\nHowever, a Dodge vehicle (the one that Congressman Gephardt mentioned)\nsuffers a factor of _4_ increase in price when it is exported to Korea.\nA Ford Taurus suffers the same problem.  A Honda Accord costs--I am\nnot making this up--$48,000 in Korea.\n\nJust how many people would want to buy a Honda Accord for $48,000?\n\nSolution:  All ships carrying Korean-made vehicles should be returned\n           to Seoul.  Pronto.  Until as such time as Korea decides\n           that it wants to abide by the rules of free and fair trade\n           with the USA and Japan.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Given that what i described for the HST  seemed to be the SMT,   and given\nthe mass amrgins on the discovery mission  is tight enough that  spacewalking\nhas to be carefully constrained.....  No EDO pallets,  no spare Suits,\nno extra MMU's.   \n\nWHy not do this?\n\n\tQuick Test  Goldins philosophjy  of faster cheaper, better.\n\nBuild a real fast Space TUg,  to handle the re-boost  of the HST  using\nclean Cryo fuels,  and get it ready before the  HST mission.\n\nIf NASA  could build Mercury in 13 months,  they should be able to make\nan SMT in 9.   \n\nHow much would it need?\n\nGuidance package.  Use a  Voyager spare.   \n\nThruster gear,  Use H2O2,  or LOX\/LH.\n\nBus  Use a Commsat.\n\nGrapple fixture.   Use a stripped down Canadarm.\n\nComms package.   SPare  X-band  omni  gear.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"*********  Sega Genesis + Sega CD Forsale   *******\n\n\tRecently moved in with some friends who have genesis + Cd player so I'm selling my whole setup.  I'd like to sell everything together.  The package come with....\n\nSega Genesis\nSega CD\n2 Joysticks\n1 Pad\nSewer Shark (CD)  \nSol-Feace (CD)\nSega Classics (CD) (5 Games on 1 CD)\n\tStreets of Rage\n\tRevenge of Shinobi\n\tColumns\n\tGolden Axe\nSherlock Holmes (CD)\nCD+G Music + graphics sampler\nJohn Madden 92' (Cart)\n\n********************************************************************************\tI'm selling all of the above for $325 plus I'll split shipping.  I \ndon't want to sell things seperately.  Please reply to jth@bach.udel.edu\n********************************************************************************","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"At work we have a small appletalk network with 3 macs and  couple of printers.\nWe also have a PC that has some specialized accounting software that we would \nlike to operate from any of the macs. We have Soft PC, and I have found that the\nsoftware works just fine under it, but I would like to have all of the data\nfor the program reside at one place (the PC hard disk). So my question for you\nis(actually questions)\n\n 1) is there a board for the PC that will allow you to hook into an appletalk\n    network?\n\n 2) if #1 is possible, is there any software\/hardware combination that will \n    allow me to mount the PC hard disk as a networked disk on the macs so I\n    can use Soft PC to run the application?\n\n 3) if #1 or #2 is impossible, is there any other way to accomplish what I am\n    after?\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nNo, Brian's hurt. His hand I think.  He started Saturday's game but was taken\nout.  It's far too early to populate the dog house, although Bedrock was seen\nwith a milkbone.\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I am urgently looking for the following article, can I cannot find it\nanywhere in our local libraries:\n\n      John Allen Smith\n      \"The Multi-Threaded X Server\"\n      The X Resource\n        Issue 1, pp. 73-89, Winter 1992\n\nIf anyone can tell me where I can find it, I WILL much appreciate it!!\n\nH.F. Sadie\nDepartement of Computer Science\nUniversity of Stellenbosch\nSouth Africa","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
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{"text":"Cancel private health insurance?\n\n\tWhen government care that only covers 20% of the population consumes\n42% of the spending for health care?\n\n\tNOT!\n\n\tNational Health Expenditures: 1960 to 1990\n(Includes Puerto Rico and outlying areas.)\n\nYear\tHealth Services and Supplies ($billions)\n\tPrivate\t\tPublic\n====================================\n1960\t$19.8\t\t$5.7\t(22% of total)\n1970\t$44.1\t\t$24.9\t(56% of total)\n1980\t$140.7\t\t$98.1\t(41% of total)\n1990\t$374.8\t\t$268.6\t(42% of total)\n\n[Source: American Almanac, Page 97.  1992-3 Edition]\n\n\tNow you understand where most of that 12.2% of GNP is going--to waste.\n\n\tBy these figures, private insurance is spending 58% of the money to\ncover 4 times as many people.\n\n\tGo figure.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nAny state that the CIA does not control is called \"state that is linked\nto terrorism\/militants\/fundamentalists etc..\"\nMeanwhile Even Egyptian \"experts\" who hate The Islamic movement admit\nthat what is happening in Egypt is spontaneous and most of the time a\nreaction to what the government does.\n\n...\n\nCan anybody see any contradiction between the above and the first\nparagraph? \nDoes anybody know what the UPI original article's title was?","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nNo Cramer it does not.  In this instance you are telling porkies to\n*yourself* as well as everyone else.  Haven't you ever been to a\ncafe or restaurant and been absalutely stuffed full of goodies and yet\nwhen one more item, just a little different, with a new texture and\na new taste, was presented you *somehow* found the space for it.\n\nMaybe you haven't, so what?  It is a widely reported phenomina and\nI reckon the same applies to sex.\n\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
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{"text":"\n\nAll children are born pure, i.e., without sin.\nHowever, most saints would view a pregnancy\noutside of marriage as an occasion of mourning.\n(Some church members would be much more\njudgmental, but that is *their* problem.)\n\nIn situations where welfare assistance is \nprovided through our Church, bishops usually\nrequire that the family be making some effort to\nlive the Gospel standards and provide for \nthemselves.\n\nHowever, there are occasions when assistance is\nprovided because of the children in the home.\nAs a former bishop of mine said, \"Children are \nalways worthy before God.\"\n\n\nI am not sure what you mean by the term \"bastards\"\nin this context.\n\nLatter-Day Saints believe that through the\ntemple ordinances the family unit may be\npreserved in eternity.\n\nIf you use genealogical material or software\nproduced by the Church, you may notice a section\nfor \"temple ordinances.\"  Within that section\nthere should be a spot for signifying \"BIC\"\nwhich stands for \"born in the covenant.\"\n\nThe children born to couple sealed (married)\nwithin the temple are \"born in the covenant\"\nand are eligible to be part of that eternal\nfamily unit.\nChildren born to other couples (whether in a\ncivil marriage or not) would have to be\nsealed to their parents after their marriage\nis solemnized for eternity.\n\nSupposing a child were born to a woman out of\nwedlock, he or she could be sealed to his or\nher parents at a later date or adopted into \nany eternal family unit (which may include one\nof the birth parents).\n\n\nI can't say if this principle of adoption\nwas revealed at the same time as the sealing \nordinances, but it has been accepted for the \n~15 years I have been in the Church.\n\nI would tend to discount any admonitions from\nthe Church authorities against having children\nout of wedlock because even though there are\nprovisions within the Lord's plan to recover\nwhat we have done wrong the Church does not\nwant to give anyone the impression we can sin\nand repent at our leisure.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nYeah... I think that the Flames and the Flyers traded Captains once... Mel  \nBridgeman for Brad Marsh.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n[anti-Israel rantings deleted]\n\nAs my father says in Russian, \"pol yevreya, poltara anitsemita\" or roughly\ntranslated \"half a Jew is an anti-semite and a half.\"  Now, Mr. Davidsson, \nI know what he means.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Folks,\n\nIt's time to start building some precise questions to send to our\nfederal elected officials and to investigative reporters in our\nlocal TV, radio and newprint media.  Ideally, these questions could be\nasked at any investigation into the BATF's and FBI's participation\nat the WACO fiasco in hopes of being resolved and, hopefully, wake\nup the local news media that they are not getting the entire truth\nfrom the BATF and FBI.  My list is up to 13 that are really nagging \nat my gut.  The list will probably grow. \n\n1.   What were the contents of the original warrant, now sealed, that\n     the BATF obtained?\n\n2.   It is reasonable to believe that illegal firearms and\/or ammunition\n     could not be flushed down the toilet.  Therefore, a \"no-knock\"\n     raid could be ruled out.  Prior to the initial assault on the \n     complex, did a single BATF agent and accompanying witness (without \n     a contingent of assault and news media personnel) attempt to knock \n     on the door of the Branch Davidian's complex and serve the warrant \n     in a manner prescribed by law?\n\n3.   On the day of the initial assault on the complex, BATF agents\n     were aware that several small children were inside the buildings.\n     In the ensueing gun battle, BATF agents fired into a building\n     known to contain children, killing at least one two-year old child.\n     Knowing children were present, why didn't the BATF have an\n     alternate plan and immediately retreat from the area close to\n     the complex and implement the alternate plan rather than opening\n     fire and jeopardizing the lives of the children in the building? \n\n4.   The FBI spokesman states that paper evidence indicates that\n     David Koresh and members of the Branch Davidians possessed over\n     $200,000 in firearms and ammunition.  Did David Koresh and the\n     members of the Branch Davidians have a valid Federal Firearms\n     License, were they actively participating in the legal business\n     of selling\/buying firearms and ammunition, and were any of the\n     weapons they had illegally possessed?  Does this paper evidence\n     consist only of weapons purchased or does it include legally\n     dispossessed weapons.\n\n5.   After the original assault on the compound tragically failed,\n     a BATF spokeswoman stated \"We were outgunned!\".  Yet, TV newscasts\n     of video tape filmed at the time of the incident show BATF agents\n     armed with MP-5 and AR-15\/M16 rifles.  Although unclear on the\n     video tape because of obstruction from full view by agent's\n     bodies, they also may have had AK-47 and SKS rifles.  What type(s)\n     of firearms did the BATF agents have immediate access to at the \n     scene of the original assault on the complex?\n\n6.   Since there is no evidence to confirm anyone was inside the\n     complex involuntarily, why did the FBI treat it as a \"hostage\"\n     situation? \n\n7.   Along the same lines, why did the FBI use \"psychological warfare\"\n     techniques, including sensory overload, sleep deprivation, and\n     other disruptive techniques that would test the sanity of any \n     normal person rather than using techniques aimed at placing the \n     complex occupants into a calmer frame of mind?\n\n8.   Reports indicate several of the children inside the complex\n     were accompanied by their mothers.  Since it is reasonable\n     to expect these mothers would have their children taken away\n     from them if they came out, why did the FBI expect the mothers\n     to just walk out and surrender themselves to the authorities?\n\n9.   Agents at the scene claim to have seen members of the Branch\n     Davidians setting fire to the complex.  Branch Davidian members\n     who survived the inferno claim the fire was started when an \n     armored vehicle punched through the wall and knocked over a \n     lantern which was setting on a table.  Video tape of the incident \n     does show an armored vehicle punching a hole in the wall and the \n     fire erupted almost immediately from the same general location.  \n     Was the source of the fire the same room where the armored vehicle \n     penetrated?\n\n10.  FBI spokesmen are voicing the opinion that the David Koresh and\n     the members of the Branch Davidians committed mass suicide.  Yet,\n     bodies are being discovered throughout the house and other areas\n     within the building complex.  This seems to be counter to any\n     known mass suicides through history.  What evidence does the FBI\n     have that a mass suicide pact existed?\n\n11.  FBI Director Sessions stated that the massive fireball shown on\n     the video tape was caused by the Branch Davidian's ammunition\n     and\/or powder cache exploding.  Yet, the fireball seems to be\n     more characteristic of the type created when compressed gas\n     or other highly volatile fuel source explodes.  Was any evidence \n     found which would indicate the Branch Davidians had an ammunition \n     and\/or powder cache which exploded to create this fireball?  If so,\n     and if David Koresh and members of the Branch Davidians were \n     engaged in the legal business of selling\/buying firearms, was the\n     amount determined to be excessively greater than one would expect\n     for someone engaged in such a legal business?\n\n12.  It is rumored that one FBI agent was extremely upset about critical\n     news media coverage and intentionally used an armored vehicle to\n     crush a reporter's car which had been left at the compound.  Is \n     there any factual basis to this rumor and, if so, what charges will \n     be brought against the FBI agent who performed the act?\n\n13.  FBI Director Sessions states that, during the final assault on the\n     complex, \"over 80 shots were fired at the vehicles.\"  On the video\n     tape of the incident, you can hear the drone of the armored vehicles\n     engines.  Yet, there is no sound of the sharp reports that one\n     would expect to hear if shots were fired.  Also, there are no \n     indications of smoke and\/or muzzle flashes appearing from the windows,\n     buildings or other structures in the video.  Surely, these should be \n     evident if the Branch Davidians had fired on the armored vehicles.  \n     Finally, the video tape does not show any indication of paint splatter, \n     sparks or other characteristic spray of material which should be \n     apparent if the Branch Davidians had fired upon the vehicles.  Do \n     any of the armored vehicles which were brought in to pump tear gas \n     into the compound show evidence of fresh damage due to being hit by \n     shots from high-power rifles?\n\n14.  CS gas is considered to be a chemical warfare agent.  The United\n     States has signed international treaties which prevent the use\n     of CS gas in warfare.  If the United States could not morally use\n     CS gas against Saddam Hussein and his troops, why is it morally\n     acceptable to use the same agent against citizens of our own land?\n\n15.  On April 21, FBI spokesmen state that at least 3 bodies discovered\n     in the complex had bullet wounds to the head indicating they had\n     been murdered or had committed suicide.  On April 22, the county\n     coroner claims he knows nothing about any bodies found with bullet\n     wounds to the head.  Were any of the victims bodies found within\n     the burned out complex have bullet wounds to the head?","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\n           \nIt was filmed the day of the first assault.  The BDs clearly allowed the\nBATF agents who were shot and wounded to leave the compound.  The\nlesson, I suppose is that you should keep shooting untill ALL the pigs\nare dead and then get the fuck outa dodge. Never give a pig an even\nbreak.  ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Catch tonight's (Thursday's) CBS Street Stories.  Covers, among others,\nthe work of AWARE (Arming Women Against Rape and Endangerment), a women's\nempowerment and training group in Massachusetts.  They'll be interviewing\nspokesperson Nancy Bittle, as well as some of her students.  (Assuming\nall of the \"interesting\" stuff they taped makes the final cut.)\n\n[If they show the ugly housebreaker in the toque and sunglasses, wave hi.]\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nOn TV news this morning it was reported that the local Texas authorities\nwho have reviewed the cases of the 21 children who were released\nearlier in the siege have found no evidence of physical or sexual\nabuse of any of the children.  I don't recall if this was on Good\nMorning America or our local Texas TV station.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"RADAR (Radio Association Defending Airwave Rights) says that Geico\ninsurance not only buy's Radar for police but also actively lobbies\nstates to promote making Radar Detectors illegal.   I think the\nbuying part is a misuse of money but the Radar Detector part shows\nhow little they know about the issue.  No study I am aware of has ever\nconcluded that detectors have a negative impact on safety or that\nusers have a higher average speed.  Incompetence by Geico?  I think\nso.\n\n\nTroy Wecker\ntroy@sequent.com\nSequent Computer Systems\nBeaverton, OR\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nI don't \"notice\" refs and linesmen until the playoffs come around, and\nyes I have to agree that Stewart called the *two* worst games I've seen\nso far (Mtl-Quebec game 1, and last nights Toronto-Detroit game).\n\nWhat's the scoop on this guy? Is he the latest incarnation of\nKERRY FRASER??? Just because you are boneheadedly stubborn doesn't\nmake you a good ref!!! Making the right call does...\n\nMy votes for:\nBest Ref: Van Hellemond\nMost Improved: Koharski\nWorst: Paul Stewart\n\n(Oops, I don't really want to start a best\/worst ref thread so don't\nfollow up ;-)","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nSo, the Greek educational system is also in a shambles. History shows \nthat within the last 170 years, Greeks played that game twice: They \nused Istanbul Patriarch Grigorios in 1822 to instigate the Morea \nrebellion that resulted in the massacres of the Muslim people. Again, \nthe Orthodox Patriarch Constantine V invited the Russian Czar Nicholas \nII to invade the Ottoman Empire 'in the name of Jesus,' and save his \nflock from Ottoman rule. \n\nSource: \"The 'Past' in Medieval and Modern Greek Culture,\" in Speros\n         Vryonis, ed., 'Byzantina kai Metabyzantina,' Vol I (Malibu,\n         Calif., 1978).\n\np. 161.\n\nIn the words of Professor Skiotis, \"With savage jubilance, [the Greeks]\nsang the words 'Let no Turk remain in the Morea, nor in the whole world.'\nThe Greeks were determined to achieve to 'Romaiko' in the only way they\nknew how: through a war of religious extermination.\"\n\nLet me further improve this one for you. After the Ottoman Empire lost \nWorld War I, the British landed in 1919 a 200,000 Greek army in Izmir \nto exterminate the people of Turkiye. Are you suffering from a severe \ncase of amnesia? The tired and defeated Turks rose up, formed a National \nForce under the leadership of Mustafa Kemal, and on August 30, 1922 they \nannihilated the bulk of the Greek Army.\n\nNow wait, there is more.\n\n  <<The Greek War of Independence brought disaster to the Jewish communities\n  in the Peloponnesos, where the revolution erupted in 1821. The Jews,\n  because of their close association with the Ottoman administration,\n  were massacred along with the Turks. The Jewish communities of Mistras,\n  Tripolis, and Kalamata were decimated; the few survivors moved north to\n  settle in Chalkis and Volos, still under Ottoman rule. Patras lost its\n  ancient Jewish community, which was refounded only in 1905.>>\n\n\n                                         Nikos Stavroulakis\n                                      'Athens-Auschwitz', page ix.\n\n  Source: Professor Stanford J. Shaw, 'The Jews of the Ottoman Empire and \n          the Turkish Republic,' New York University Press, New York (1991).\n\n  page 187:\n\n  <<...the disintegration of the Ottoman Empire which had been going on\n  for a century was disastrous for Ottoman Jewry. This was the age of\n  nationalism among the Christian subjects of the Sultan, starting with\n  the Greek Revolution early in the nineteenth century, which, based on\n  the Megali Idea, or Great Idea, sought to add to Greek kingdom Istanbul\n  and large portions of Anatolia, union of which with Greece was felt to be\n  the 'dream and hope of all'. The success of the Greek national movement,\n  provided more in fact by the intervention of the Great Powers than by the\n  efforts of the Greeks themselves, stimulated similar uprisings among the\n  other subjects in Southeastern Europe who had long been oppressed, not so\n  much by the Ottomans but, rather, by the Greek religious hierarchy which\n  dominated the Orthodox millet, leading first to pressure for religious\n  independence, granted to the Bulgarian Orthodox Exarchate in 1870, to the\n  Serbian Church in 1879, and to the Rumanian Church in 1885, with subsequent\n  aspirations for, and achievement of, political independence following...>>\n\n  page 188:\n\n  <<...They [new nationalist leaders] were greatly assisted in their\n   campaigns against the Ottomans both by the diplomatic and consular\n   representatives of the major Powers of Europe and also by Christian\n   missionaries, who emphasized feelings of Christian superiority and\n   hatred for Muslims and Jews which fortified the religious as well as\n   ethnic bases of their pursuit of independence.\n\n   Christian nationalism, based as much on religious as on ethnic identity,\n   soon resurrected the medieval bigotries which had devastated both Jews\n   and Muslims and consequently had driven them together in the past.\n   Vicious anti-Muslim and anti-Semitic movements developed, involving\n   large-scale persecutions and massacres carried out by invading armies,\n   by the independent states that resulted, also by Christian subjects\n   who remained within the Empire, particularly because of Jewish and Muslim\n   support for Ottoman integrity in fear of their fate in the emergent\n   nationalist states of Southeastern Europe. The results were explosive\n   and damaging.\n\n   The invading armies of Russia and Austria as well as the revolting\n   nationalists and, later, successfully established independent Christian\n   states, committed systematic genocide against Jews and Muslims throughout\n   the nineteenth century, despite Great Power admonitions to the contrary\n   in the treaties of Paris (1858) and Berlin (1878),...>>\n\n  page 188:\n\n  <<...As the peoples of Southeastern Europe achieved their independence,\n   their Muslim and Jewish minorities were systematically persecuted and\n   massacred, and those who survived were driven beyond the ever-shrinking\n   boundaries of the retreating Ottoman Empire in a kind of slaughter which\n   had not been seen since the dispersal of the Jews from Palestine centuries\n   earlier.\n\n   This sort of genocide had begun as long before as the late sixteenth\n   century, with the Rumanian Principalities taking the lead, as united\n   Rumania did subsequently during the later years of the nineteenth\n   century. In 1579 the ruler of Moldavia, Peter the Lame, banished its\n   Jews because of their competition with its Christian merchants. When\n   Prince Micheal the Brave revolted against the Ottomans in the Rumanian\n   principalities of Wallachia and Moldavia in 1593, he ordered the massacre\n   of all the Jews as well as Turks in Bucharest.>>\n\n  page 189:\n\n  <<The slaughter continued well into the nineteenth century. When the\n  Greeks revolted against Ottoman rule many Greek volunteers coming from\n  Russia and the Principalities to join in the effort slaughtered and\n  plundered the Jewish communities along their paths as they went through\n  Moldavia and Wallachia toward Greece.>>\n\n  page 190 (second paragraph):\n\n  <<When Venice occupied the island of Chios in 1694, its Jewish population\n   was either massacred or deported and all Jewish communal and personal\n   property was stolen by the native Greek population, leaving those Jews\n   who returned in utter poverty and reduced to begging, no longer able to\n   compete with the Greeks in trade or commerce.>>\n\n  page 190 (third paragraph):\n\n  <<Jews living in Greece and the Rumanian principalities suffered terribly\n   because of their support for Ottoman rule. When the Greek nationalist\n   movement Philike Etairia started its uprising in Wallachia and Moldavia\n   during the spring of 1821, hundreds of Jews and Muslims were killed by\n   the Greeks who lived there as well as by native Wallachs [14]. During\n   the height of the Greek revolution, five thousand Jews were massacred\n   in Morea along with most of the Muslim population, numbering about\n   twenty thousand in all [15]. In Tripolizza alone 1,200 Jews were\n   massacred along with uncounted Turks [16].  Reverend John Hartley,\n   after describing the carnage, concluded 'Thus did Jewish blood, mingled\n   with Turkish, flow down the streets of captured city. The sons of Isaac\n   and the sons of Ishmael, on this as well as on every occasion during the\n   Greek Revolution, met with common fate. Their corpses were cast out of the\n   city, and, like the ancient sovereign of Judah, they received no burial\n   superior to that of an ass.' [17] Jewish communities on the islands of\n   Sparta, Patras, Corinthos, Mistra, and Argos were wiped out by bands of\n   Greek rebels along with those of Thebes, Vrachori, Attica and Epirus [18].\n   The surviving Jews fled to the island of Corfu, where Jews who had fled\n   from Italy, and the Iberian Peninsula had lived in peace and prosperity\n   under the Venetian rule since the twelfth century, though divided into\n   rival Greek and Italian communities. It was not long, however, before\n   it too fell victim to the Greek Revolution, leading to savage repression\n   and massacres of Jews, forcing the surviving members of the two communities\n   to come together for self-defense for the first time. Throughout the years\n   of Greek revolution, Greek nationalists went from town to town on the\n   mainland and from island to island in the Agean, exterminating all the\n   Jews and Muslims they could find, many along the roads as they desperately\n   fled to safety in what was left of the Ottoman Empire. Contemporary\n   accounts relate that the Greeks left the murdered Jews and Muslims lying\n   exposed so their bodies could be torn apart by the buzzards [19]. Most of\n   the Jews who survived these massacres fled across the Agean in small boats\n   to Izmir, thus starting its rise as one of the leading centers of Ottoman\n   Jewish life during the nineteenth century. Only in Northern Greece,\n   particularly in the areas of Janina and Salonica, were the Jews and the\n   Turks able to successfully resist the Greek assaults, thus saving their\n   populations from massacre as well [20]. During the remainder of the 19th\n   century, particularly during the Greek-Turkish war in 1897, those Jews\n   who remained in Greece in the areas of Athens, Chalkis, Larissa, Corfu\n   and Crete suffered severe persecution and massacre, forcing thousands\n   more to emigrate into Ottoman territory, particularly to Salonica and\n   Izmir [21].>>\n\n   page 193 (last paragraph):\n\n   <<The inclusion in the Treaty of Berlin of stipulations providing\n   protection for the Jewish and Muslim minorities in Southeastern Europe\n   stimulated more popular anti-Semitic and anti-Muslim hysteria in all\n   the countries involved, with blood-libel accusations once again being\n   used as pretexts for attacking and ravaging Jewish quarters as well as\n   for new tactics for boycotting Jewish shopkeepers, merchants and\n   professionals, a movement which was quickly adapted by the Christian\n   millets in the major cities of the Ottoman Empire. Because the Bulgarians,\n   Rumanians and Greeks correctly regarded the Jews as supporters of the\n   Turks, both Jews and Turks were expelled from these countries in equally\n   atrocious and brutal manners. Their property was plundered and their\n   homes and shops taken over without compensation, while the survivors\n   fled in desperation to Edirne and Istanbul. While official statements\n   subsequently were issued granting equal rights to Jews, little was done\n   in fact and they continued to be persecuted regularly well into the\n   twentieth century.>>\n\n  page 194 (last paragraph):\n\n  <<Things were not much better elsewhere in Southeastern Europe or the\n   Greek islands of the Agean and the eastern Mediterranean. In 1891 the\n   Jews on Corfu were subjected to severe persecution by local Greeks due\n   to the revival of the old ritual murder accusations [26]. Many of\n   those who survived found refuge in Ottoman territory with the help of a\n   popular subscription drive carried out in Istanbul under leadership of\n   the Banque Camondo. In 1881 and 1884, and again in 1892 and 1903,\n   thousands of Jews came to Ottoman territory as a result of pogroms\n   in Russia which went on between 1881 and 1921 with only slight periods\n   of respite. In 1899 Jewish families arrived in Istanbul in flight from\n   persecution in Vidin, in independent Bulgaria.\n\n   The conquest of Ottoman Thrace and Macedonia by Greek and Bulgarian\n   forces during the Balkan Wars (1912-13), including Salonica, Corlu,\n   and Edirne, was followed by general attacks on Jews, their synagogues,\n   homes and shops, in both countries [27], resulting in a renewed exodus\n   toward Istanbul and beyond. Two reports from Salonica graphically\n   described the situation caused by the invading armies:\n\n      'All the self-interested justifications of the newspapers of Europe,\n      all the lies which they have used to cover up the truth, can never\n      destroy the impression of the terrible anguish which has marked the\n      entry of the Greeks in Salonica. A week of terror and horror one can\n      never easily forget. The Hellenes now cruelly feel today all the\n      damage that the explosion of hatred by the (Greek) population has done\n      to their cause. The mob has shown itself odious and the government\n      weak...The incompetence of the Greek administration and the horrors\n      inflicted by the soldiers has put them in a terrible situation. The\n      consuls guaranteed the absolute safety of the Muslims, but sixty of\n      them were massacred in a single night....'[28]\n\n     'It wasn't only irregulars (Comitacis) who massacred, pillaged and\n      burned. The soldiers of the Army, the Chief of Police, and the high\n      civil officials took an active part in the events at Serres. Out of\n      6,000 houses, 4,000 were burned. Almost 1,200 shops were consumed by\n      flames and destructive bombs. The (Jewish) population lost all, and\n      without even anything to wear is in despair. Everyone wants to\n      emigrate...'[29]\n\n\n  page 196:\n\n    <<As a result of these assaults, massacres, and forced deportations from\n   the independent countries of Southeastern Europe, the Ottoman Empire\n   received literally thousands of Jewish refugees who joined the Muslims\n   who survived the persecution, flooding into the Empire...>>\n\n[14] Shlomo Rozanes, Korot Hayehudim Beturkiyah Vebeartzot Hakedem:\n    Hadorot Haachronim (Jerusalem, 1945), pp.42-44, cited Yitzchak Kerem,\n    'The Influence of Anti-Semitism on Jewish Immigration Patterns from\n    Greece to the Ottoman Empire in the 19th Century', pp.2, 14.\n\n[15] Maxime Raybaud, Memoires sur la Grece, pour servir a l'histoire de la\n    Guerre de l'Independence (2 Vols, Paris, 1824), pp.5-19; Galante,\n    Turcs et Juifs (Istanbul, 1932), 76-77.\n\n[16] Rev. T.S. Hughes, Travels in Greece and Albania (2nd edn, 2 vols,\n    London, 1830), II, 194-95.\n\n[17] Rev. John Hartley, Researches in Greece and the Levant (London, 1831),\n    207, quoted in Yitzchak Kerem, 'Jewish Immigration Patterns from Greece\n    to the Ottoman Empire in the Nineteenth Century', published paper\n    delivered at the Comite International d'Etudes Pre-Ottomanes et Ottomanes,\n    VIII Symposium, 'Decision-Making and the Transmission of Authority\n    in the Turkic System', University of Minnesota, Minneapolis,\n    Minnesota, 14-19 August 1988, p.4.\n\n[18] Hartley, ibid., pp.206-7, William Martin Leake, Travels in Northern\n    Greece (2 Vols, London, 1835) II, 231-32, 609; Errikos Sevillas,\n    Athens-Auschwitz (Athens, 1983), p.ix, quoted in Kerem, ibid., p.14.\n\n[19] Documented in Kerem, ibid., pp.14-19. Pearl L. Preschel, The Jews\n    of Corfu (Greece), Unpublished Ph.D. dissertation, New York University,\n    1984. Goerge Finlay, History of the Greek Revolution (London, 1861),\n    172, 179-86; See also 'Greece', EJ VII, 876-77.\n\n[20] Yoannina Vasdraveli, Ee Thessaloniki: Kata Ton Agona Tis Aneksantizias\n    (Salonica, 1946), pp.19-35; Yitzchak Kerem, An Outline of the History\n    of Jews of Selonica (in Hebrew) (Museum of Kibbutz Lahoma, Getaot, 1985),\n    p.21, quoted in Kerem, ibid., p.15.\n\n[21] Kerem, ibid., pp.8-12, 'The Persecution of the Jews', Times (London),\n    16 May 1891; A. Ablagon to AIU, 19 October 1898, AIU, Grece VIII.B.34,\n    Schaki (Larissa) to AIU, 23 August\/4 September 1893, BAIU, Grece,\n    Deuxieme Serie, no.18, 1er et 2e Semestre, 1893; Elia Fraggi (Larissa)\n    to AIU, 5 June 1874, AIU Grece, I.C.22; Larissa AIU represantatives\n    to AIU, 23 June\/5 July 1897, AIU, Grece II.B.16; Jewish Community of\n    Canea leaders in Samos to AIU, 3 March, 1897, AIU, Grece VIII.B.35.\n\n[26] Pearl L. Preschel, The Jews of Corfu (Greece), Unpublished Ph.D.\n    dissertation, New York University, 1984.\n\n[27] Leon Sciaky, Farewell to Salonica: Portrait of an Era (New York, 1946);\n    Edgar Morin, Vidal et les Siens (Paris, Seuil, 1989), 55-67; Paul Dumont,\n    'The Social Structure of the Jewish Community of Salonica at the end of\n    the nineteenth century', Southeastern Europe V (1979), 33-72; Galante,\n    Turcs VIII, 18-21; Rodrigue, pp.178-80.\n\n[28] A. Cohen, Ecole Secondaire Moise Allatini, Salonica, to AIU, Paris,\n   no.7745\/7, 4 December 1912, in AIU Archives I C 49.\n\n[29] Mizrahi, President of AIU at Salonica, to AIU (Paris), no.2704\/3,\n   25 July 1913. In AIU Archives (Paris) I C 51.\n\n( AIU = Alliance Israelite Universelle, Paris. )\n\nNeed I go on?\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"FURY OF MOTHER NATURE\n\nMan's contribution to environmental \"pollution\" are paltry compared to those \nof nature. In her exceptional book TRASHING THE PLANET, former Atomic Energy \nCommision Chairman Dr. Dixie Lee Ray notes based on the available data, \"all \nof the air polluting materials produced by man since the beginning of the \nindustrial revolution do not begin to equal  the quantities of toxic \nmaterials, aerosols, and particulates spewed into the air from just three \nvolcanoes: Krakatoa in Indonesia in 1883, Mount Katmai in Alaska in 1912, and \nHekla in Iceland in 1947.\" To which could be added Mount St. Helens in \nWashington State in 1980 (which pumped out 910,000 metric tons of carbon \ndioxide alone). El Chicon in Mexico in 1982 (which sent more than 100 million \ntons of sulfur gases into the stratosphere), and Mount Pinatubo in the \nPhilippines (which in 1991 hurled upwards of 30 million tons of material into \nthe stratosphere).\nLOS NINOS\nMany environmentalists attributed the 1988 drought in the U.S. to global \nwarming, but researchers with the National Center for Atmospheric Research in \nBoulder Colorado reported that the freakish weather was actually due to a \nnatural phenomenon, the interaction of El Nino and El Nina, two massive \ncurrents in the tropical Pacific. El Nino is a huge strip of warm water that \nperiodically appears off the coast of South America and disrupts the world's \nweather patterns. Now and then, it alternates with El Nina, a mass of cold \nwater that comes from the ocean depths along the equator and drifts for \nthousands of miles.\nCHICAGO TRIBUNE'S  Peter Gorner summarized the phenomenon: \"Cold water along \nthe equator clashed with warmer than normal water southeast of Hawaii. The \nresult was both the U.S. drought and the devastating floods that swamped \nBangladesh...... Nina's cooler water disrupted tropical weather patterns and \ndistorted the path of the Jet Stream across North America. Then the Jet \nStream shoved rain-producing weather systems away from the interior of the \nU.S. resulting in drought.\"\nTERMITE TERROR\n\nSundry animals and insects also contribute their share to environmental \n\"degradation. TIME for April 20,1992 noted that in \"the Netherlands... manure \nfrom pigs poses a major ecological threat, defiling water supplies with \nexcessive nitrites and acidifying local soils. Sheep have permanently scarred \nthe landscape in Spain and Portugal, while in India ... bovines [cows] are \nravenous wraiths whose constant quest  for food drives them to ravage \nstanding forrests.\"\nThe February 1983 issue  of SCIENCE DIGEST reported that \"an international \nteam of researchers has discovered that termites generate more than twice the \nCarbon Dioxide  that fuel burning does.\" According to a study reported in \nSCIENCE for November 5, 1982, the \"estimated gross amount of Carbon Dioxide \nproduced [by termites] was more than twice the net global input from fossil \nfuel combustion.\" In addition, \"Termites are a potentially important source \nof atmospheric methane: they could account for a large fraction of global \nemmisions.\" The wood-eating pests have a bacteria that enables them too \ndigest carbon so efficiently that some 90 pe is converted too Carbon Dioxide, \nmethane, and other gases they belch into the atmosphere.\nAnts are another natural source of \"pollution.\" In 1987, an atmospheric \nchemist with Bell Laboratories, and zoologists from Cornell University, \nreported that ants of the subfamily FORMICINAE make and store huge quantities \nof the formic acid that contributes most of the acidity of rain that falls in \nremote areas and is found in atmosphere gas and precepitation around the \nglobe. It is abundant, for instance, in the fog and mists that hang over the \nrain forests of Central Africa. According to the July 6, 1987 INSIGHT \nmagazine, the \"ants release the acid when defending themselves and \ncommunicating with each other and upon dying. Since  30 percent of the world \nant population belongs to this subfamily, there is significant concern about  \nthe acid the ants release,\" an amount estimated at \"600,000 metric tons \nannually.\" which is equal to the combined formic acid contributions of \nautomobiles, refuse combustion and vegetation.\"\nClearly, man has a long way to go to match nature as a \"despoiler\" of the \nenvironment.\nBy Robert W. Lee.\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"# \n# \n# ># So Steve: Lets here, what IS zionism?\n# \n# >  Assuming that you mean 'hear', you weren't 'listening': he just\n# >  told you, \"Zionism is Racism.\"  This is a tautological statement.\n# \n# I think you are confusing \"tautological\" with \"false and misleading.\"\n\n  No, but you're right that I didn't express myself well.\n\n  The dialog went:\n\n   A: \"Zionism is racism.\"\n   B: \"What IS zionism?\"\n  DC: \"You weren't listening, were you?\"\n\n  In other words, the first statement *defined* a Zionism of discourse.\n  Everything else was redundant.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"NHL PLAYOFF RESULTS FOR GAMES PLAYED 23 APRIL 1993:\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n                  CONFERENCE SEMI-FINALS        BEST OF SEVEN\n      PATRICK              ADAMS              NORRIS              SMYTHE\n  \n NJ                  BUF   (leads 3-0)   STL   (leads 3-0)   WIN               \n PIT   (leads 3-0)   BOS                 CHI                 VAN   (leads 2-1)\n\n NYI   (leads 2-1)   MON                 TOR                 LA    \n WAS                 QUE   (leads 2-1)   DET   (leads 2-1)   CAL   (tied  2-1)\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nDetroit Red Wings (lead series 2-1)    0   1   1   -   2\nToronto Maple Leafs                    2   0   2   -   4\n\nDave Andreychuk scored his first two playoff goals for Toronto and Felix\nPotvin stopped 34 of 36 Red Wing shots as the Maple Leafs won their first\nwin in the series.\n\nFirst period-- 1, Toronto, Andreychuk 1 (Foligno,Gilmour), 4:21.  2, Toronto,\n  Andreychuk 2 (Gilmour), 7:37.\n\nSecond period-- 3, Detroit, Fedorov 2 (Coffey,Sheppard), 1:20 (pp).\n\nThird period-- 4, Toronto, Clark 1 (Gilmour,Mironov), 4:44 (pp).  5, Toronto,\n  Pearson 1 (Clark,Cullen), 9:32.  6, Detroit, Chiasson 2 (Konstantinov,\n  Fedorov), 14:14.\n\nShots on goal-- Detroit 9-19-8--36.  Toronto  13-8-12--33.  Power-play\n  opportunities-- Detroit 1 of 5; Toronto 1 of 8.  Goalies-- Detroit,\n  Cheveldae, 2-1 (33 shots-29 saves).  Toronto, Potvin, 1-2 (36-34).\n  A--15,720.\n\nReferee-- Mark Faucette.  Linesmen-- Kevin Collins, Brian Murphy.\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nChicago Blackhawks                   0   0   0   -   0\nSt. Louis Blues (lead series 3-0)    1   1   1   -   3\n\nCurtis Joseph blanked the Blackhawks for the second straight game and Brett\nHull scored a goal and added an assist to lead the Blues to a 3-0 series lead.\nChicago hasn't scored in 131:09 of play since Brian Noonan's hat-trick goal in\ngame 1.\n\nFirst period-- 1, St. Louis, Janney 1 (Hull,Brown), 16:53 (pp).\n\nSecond period-- 2, St. Louis, Hull 3 (Miller), 12:31.\n\nThird period-- 3, St. Louis, Emerson 1 (Felsner,Shanahan), 16:44.\n\nShots on goal-- Chicago 9-12-13--34.  St. Louis 7-13-4--24.  Power-play\n  opportunities-- Chicago 0 of 4; St. Louis 1 of 7.  Goalies-- Chicago,\n  Belfour, 0-3 (24 shots-21 saves).  St. Louis, Joseph, 3-0 (34-34).\n  A--17,985.\n\nReferee-- Dan Marouelli.  Linesmen-- Randy Mitton, Shane Heyer.\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nVancouver Canucks (lead series 2-1)    1   2   1   -   4\nWinnipeg Jets                          3   0   2   -   5\n\nTeemu Selanne broke out of his mini-slump with a hat trick, including the\ngame-winner, to lead the Jets to a 5-4 victory.  Trevor Linden and Pavel Bure\neach scored twice for the losing Canucks.\n\nFirst period-- 1, Winnipeg, Tkachuk 1 (Housley), 3:52.  2, Winnipeg, Selanne 1\n  (Housley,Shannon), 7:01 (pp).  3, Vancouver, Bure 2, 18:29.  4, Winnipeg,\n  Selanne 2 (Shannon,Housley), 19:57 (pp).\n\nSecond period-- 5, Vancouver, Linden 2 (Ronning,Lumme), :14.  6, Vancouver,\n  Linden 3 (Adams,Slegr), :59 (pp).\n\nThird period-- 7, Winnipeg, Borsato 1 (Steen), 2:53 (sh).  8, Winnipeg,\n  Selanne 3 (Shannon), 9:35.  9, Vancouver, Bure 3 (Babych,Lidster), 15:52.\n\nShots on goal-- Vancouver 18-9-10--37.  Winnipeg 13-8-8--29.  Power-play\n  opportunities-- Vancouver 1 of 8; Winnipeg 2 of 6.  Goalies-- Vancouver,\n  McLean, 2-1 (29 shots-24 saves).  Winnipeg, Essensa, 1-2 (37-33).\n  A--15,569.\n\nReferee-- Kerry Fraser.  Linesmen-- Gord Broseker, Dan Schachte.\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nCalgary Flames (lead series 2-1)    2   1   2   -   5\nLos Angeles Kings                   0   1   1   -   2\n\n(Boxscore tomorrow)\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nSaturday, 24 April 1993:\n\n     Washington at NY Islanders (NY Islanders lead series 2-1), 7:40pm EST\n     Boston at Buffalo (Buffalo leads series 3-0), 7:40pm EST\n     Quebec at Montreal (Quebec leads series 2-1), 8:10pm EST\n\nSunday, 25 April 1993:\n\n     Pittsburgh at New Jersey (Pittsburgh leads series 3-0), 1:10pm EST\n     Chicago at St. Louis (St. Louis leads series 3-0), 1:10pm EST\n     Calgary at Los Angeles (Calgary leads series 2-1), 3:10pm EST\n     Detroit at Toronto (Detroit leads series 2-1), 7:10pm EST\n     Vancouver at Winnipeg (Vancouver leads series 2-1), 9:10pm EST\n\n\n-JPC\n\n\n-- ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I just joined this group recently and really do not know much about\ncryptography, but a couple things came to mind while reading through\nthe posts.\n\n1.  Is the Clipper chip going to be exported?  If not, how will\npeople communicate with other countries?  Will they have to do\nthat in un-crypt-mode.  Will other encryption techniques be\nlegal (assuming the government cracks down on using others) when\ngoing overseas, but not within the states?\n\n2.  I've read about authentication systems that use an electronic  \nsecurity card that looks like a calculator to create an encrypted\nPIN based on the time\/date.  The host system has the algorithm\nbuilt into it as well so that it can authenticate a user.\nIs there some form of encryption technology that would create\nkeys that are only valid at a certain instant in time?  The \nsystems would then allow a \"window\" of time around this instant\nwhere the key would work.\nI realize that this technique would increase the amount of information\nneeding to be stored because you would need entire algorithms rather\nthan just keys.  But for smaller scale things it might work.\nCould some similar method be used to make the two 80-bit keys that\nare issued to police\/FBI\/etc to tap a phone only usable for one-week\n(for instance).  If further surveilance was needed, they would have\nto go back to the escrow service to get another key.  This would\nmake it useless for local police to database keys they have used.\n\nI assume this is not possible because the receiving phone would need\nto be able to decypher the message.  But any thoughts on the subject?\n\nThanks,\nTauren Mills","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Has anyone observed this?  If I copy a large, say 800K+ file (a large PKZIP\nfile for instance) to my floppy drive (3.5\") under MS Windows 3.1 via either\nProgram Manager or a DOS Shell, the file copied under the DOS shell \nhas errors whereas the file copied from within Program Manager does not.\n\nThe corruption is detected by executing \"pkunzip -t b:\\file.zip\" after \nboth copies.  The file copied via the DOS shell always shows corruption.\n\n\nNow here's the kicker:\n\n\nI have many windows open while doing this; both DOS and WINDOWs apps.\nSupposedly all WINDOWs' apps share the same time slice, whereas the \nDOS apps get their own equal time slice (unless overriden).\n\n\nSo, as an example, I have 5 WINDOWs' apps open, 2 multitasking DOS sessions running,\nand one execution-execlusive DOS shell iconized (inactive).  Under this \nscenario, CPU time is divided into two major slices:  one for all the Windows\napps and one slice for the running DOS app.  \n\nWhen copying under Windows PGM MGR, I'll assume the other Windows and DOS tasks\nare essentially inactive.  Thus PGM MGR gets, say, 80% of the Windows slice and\n95% of the execution-background DOS shell's slices.  Thus it gets (.8)(.95)^2 = \n.72 or 72% of the total available CPU time. \n\nWhen copying in a DOS shell, I activate the execute-exclusive mode DOS shell\n(no other DOS background tasks allowed), full screen, under the Windows task\nmanager.  The CPU time available to this shell would be 80% of the Windows slice\n(assumming inactive Windows applications) and 100% of the DOS slice: \n(1.0)(.8) = .8 or 80% of the total available CPU time.\n\nSo why do I get copy errors under DOS if it has the greater amount of CPU\ntime?  Is program manager working in a pre-emptive mode during the floppy \ncopy?  It must be!\n\n\n\nMiscellaneous data:  Running Windows on top of DOS 5.0, qemm 5.x, rapidbios.sys,\n                     2.0 mbyte smartdrive (no delayed writes), two ramdrives, \n                     logitech mouse driver 6.2, full 16mbytes motherboard RAM,\n                     64Kbyte motherboard cache, 386 DX 33 Mhz.\n                     \n                     Running dos-edit.com TSR in the DOS shell.\n                     \n-- ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Great SLR camera (Ricoh) for sale. Has all the Nikon FE features, and also\nshutter speeds form 16 seconds and down. Excellent condition. With accessories\nsuch as a zoom lens. Very reasonable price.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"This is an outrage!  I don't even own a dog.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"wanted: apple adb mouse and keyboard\ncontact Paul Gribble at above email address asap. Paul G.\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Does anyone know if the source is available to create FLI\nor FLC animations? I would ideally like DLL's for Windows\nbut would settle for C source.  I've heard they might be \navailable on Amiga forums somewhere.  The libraries\ncurrently distributed by Autodesk, AAWIN, AAPLAY, do NOT\nhave FLI creation capability, only playback.\n\nAny pointers would be appreciated, thanks!","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"N(P>Just got a 66MHz 486DX2 system, and am considering getting a fan for the\nN(P>CPU. The processor when running is too hot to touch so I think this is a\nN(P>fairly good idea. (long ago when I did some electronics training I read\nN(P>somewhere that the regions within a chip that define junctions\/gates etc\nN(P>slowly diffuse over time and this increases with temperature, hence a hot\nN(P>chip goes off-spec sooner)\n\nN(P>Has anyone out there got a CPU fan??\n\nI work for a small PC OEM. We offer both a personal and professional\nsystem line. Our 486 pro machines always have a CPU cooling fan on DX2\nand DX-50 units.\n\nN(P>Is there more than 1 type?\n\nThere are several manufacturers.\n\nN(P>Do you have to remove the CPU from its scoket to install the fan?\n\nSometimes - depends on the specific fan model.\n\nN(P>Do all CPU fans derive their power from spare drive power lines?\n\nAll the ones I've seen do; many come with a 'Y' connector, so you don't\nhave to have a \"spare\" connector.\n\nN(P>Anyone had any trouble with CPU fans?\n\nNone.\n\nN(P>Does anyone have any evidence that CPU fans are a complete waste of\nmoney?\n\nTouch a 486DX-50 chip after its been running a few minutes - you won't\nfeel the fan is a waste!\n\nN(P>How are these fans attached? (glue? clips? melted cheese?)\n\nDepends on the model. Many use clips - make sure you use heat sink\ngrease, or heat transfering tape, or you will have wasted your money.\n\nN(P>Roughly how much cooler will the CPU be with a fan as opposed to\nwithout? (an advert I've read claims 85F vs 185F)\n\nTough to tell - I do know the chip sheds a lot of heat.\n\n\n * SLMR 2.1a * Murphy was an optimist - Is your data backed up?\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nTake a look at the standings. It's REAL easy to get so focussed on \nminutinae and forget that the Giants happen to be in first place. If it's\nworking, you don't SCREW IT UP by changing things, just because you think it\nought to be different.\n\nSome folks like to argue about theoretical details. I prefer to watch teams\nwin. When the Giants slip to third, then we can talk about how to re-arrange\nthe batting order. Until then, I think it's stupid to focus on what's wrong,\nfor the simple fact that IT'S WORKING AS IT IS.\n\n\nIn the majors? I don't follow AL, so I won't comment on \"Majors\". In the NL,\nif I had my choice of any 1B in the league for my team, it'd be Clark, and\nI'd hit him third. (My fantasy team has both Grace and Murray on it, because\nI've never been able to GET Clark. I'd take any of the three without\nhesitation in real life, but I think Clark is it).\n\nWilliams: Not even close. I much prefer his defense, but when he isn't\nheadcasing it, Matt has a good, solid swing and some real punch. If he drops\nto .230, then he wanders out of cleanup, but according to the latest\nBaseball Weekly, he's hitting .275, and in the last week, hitting .296.\nThat's not exactly chopped liver.\n\nMostly, though, the Giants are winning, and frankly, as long as that\ncontinues, it's rather silly to second-guess their strategy. But evidently,\nsome folks would rather be right than be first.\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"than\n\nFirst of all, I wouldn't advise wasting your time with Apple.  They'll\ntreat you like an idiot and you won't get any answers (a personal\nopinion).\n\nThe safest thing to do is match the SVGA monitor's scanning rates with\nApple's rates.  I don't know Apple's video scanning rates, but I use the\nMicron Xceed 30's rates, as they're a good approximation.\n\nAbout cables: you just have to go out to someplace like Fry's and get a\nfew Mac-VGA cables and try them out.  I have a ViewSonic 5E (14\") and I\nuse an NEC adaptor.  Other monitors may use other adaptors.  I also have\na Mac->832x624 adaptor that tricks System into thinking the monitor is an\nApple 16\".  I need to readjust the vertical and horizontal sizes but it\nworks fairly well.\n\n\t\"Just like everything else in life, the right lane ends in half a mile.\"","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"We are making a transition from NextStep to X-windows. I am trying to find the best GUI tool for our needs.  I have looked at several tools but they all seem basically the same (each salesman will beg to differ). I realize that there are differences but I don't have an infinate amount of time to discover what they are. The tools I have looked at so far are UIM\/X, X-designer, Tele-Use, tcl\/tk,Interviews, and SUIT. \nSo far I've drawn the following conclusions:\n\n1) The builder for Interviews is not very mature, bad docs\n2) Tele-Use is very expensive and uses a proprietary toolkit\n3) UIM\/X & X-designer seem about the same, even though X-designer does not have a interpreter (I'll by Centerline if I need one)\n4) tcl\/tk is a little buggy\n5) I know very little about the ICS Builder (just have the sales info)\n6) Due to a corporate agreement X-designer is much cheeper than any other comercial product.\n7) For the time I'm spending I could have bought all of them (well different money)\n8) We will have to live with any shortcomings and make it work\n9) this type of tool seems great, but noone seems to talk about them on the net. Is there another news group for this ?\n10) SUIT cost too much for comercial development.\n\nI'm hoping someone out there has a strong opinion on at least one of these products.\n\nthanks \n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Here is a list I get when I was combing through some microfilm one\nday here at Drexel while completely board.  Most of these circuits are\npretty easy to constuct and can be done by a novice.\n\tThis is basically some stuff that could prove useful to you without\nhaving to sit down and either design or buy the stuff (not a good word, but I'm\ntired right now).\n\tHope you enjoy!\n\n\tIf you have any additions send them to me and I'll add them to the list\n.  They don't have to be from this particular magazine, they just have to be\ninteresting!\n\n\tRADIO ELECTRONICS\n\nYear\tMonth\tPage\tArticle Name and\/or discription\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n92\tApril\t31\tCar Audio Amplifier (270 Watts)\n\tMay\t41\tMidi Light Controller (Light control from music input)\n\t\t47\tSolid State Relay \n\t\t50\tDigital Altimeter\n\tJune\t53\tElectronic Thermostat\n91\tFebruary43\tAudio Sweep\/Marker Generator (frequency response)\n\tApril\t43\tLine Power from 12 volts (12 VDC -> 110 VAC) (40 Watts)\n\tJune \t39\tElectronic Compass\n\tAugust\t55\tSpeaker Protector\n\tSept.\t33\tSolid State Tesla Coil\n\tOct.\t39\tVocal Effects\/Mixer\n\tNov.\t58\tMusic on Hold (Play music for someone who is on hold on\n\t\t\t\tthe phone)\n\tDec.\t47\tTHD Analizer\n\t\t53\tBattery Tool\n\t\t63\tElectronic Fuse\n90\tJan.\t35\tAcoustic field Generator\n\t\t45\tPhone activated Audio Muting circuit\n\tFeb.\t31\tFrequency Probe\n\t\t37\tRadar Detector Tester\n\tMarch\t31\tUniversal Laboratory Power Supply\n\tApril \t33\tMorse\/RTTY Detector\n\t\t43 \tCapacitance Adaptor (Capacitance add on for a DMM)\n\t\t46\tSolid State Wiper control\n\tMay\t37 \tUniversal Descrambler (for a TV)\n\tJuly\t31 \tDigital Dashboard (for a car)\n\tAugust\t41\tDigital Pressure gauge\n\tSept.\t33\tVocal Stripper (take the vocals away from music)\n\tOct.\t37\tRocket Altimeter (model rockets)\n\tDec.\t33\tBenchtop Frequency counter\n89\tJan\t55\tCarrier-Current Audio transmitter (audio through your\n\t\t\t\thouse's wiring)\n\t\t62 \tPlasma display globe\n\t\t70 \tAdvanced Control System\n\tFeb.\t55\tCarrier-Current Receiver\n\tMarch\t51\tHi-Fi Audio Amp for House or Car (High Power)\n\tMay\t41\tI-R Extender (extender for Infra-Red remotes)\n\tJuly\t31 \tLight beam communication\n\t\t38\tDigital Capacitance meter\n\tNov\t39 \tR-C Decade Box \n\t\t43\tDigital Compass\n\tDec\t37\tProgrammable Phasor Property Guard\n88\tJuly\t41 \tL-C Meter Part 1\n\tAugust 50\tL-C Meter Part 2\n87\tNov.\t107\tElectronic Combonation Lock\n86\tSept\t41\tStun Gun\n\tJune\t55\tClick and Pop filter for your stereo (removes clicks and\n\t\t\t\tpops when you play old LPs)\n\n-- From what I could see, you can order the circuit kits, finished or unfinished\n\tor you can order the parts that you can't get through a normal store","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nThat doesn't answer my question:  Can you give a proof that it is an official\npolicy of any Israeli government to kill \"neutral observers\" or UN personel\nor others like them?\n\nI wasn't sure that your original statement was wrong and was prepared to\nrecieve proofs that you are right  (since I don't follow the events closely).\nYour last response made me pretty damn sure that at least YOU can't give such\na proof,  and you made your original statement without much ground to put it\non.\n\n\nEven if it's true (and in this case I'd take it without asking you to prove it)\nit is still far from killing reporters.  Also whenever that happened I'll bet\nit happened as individual actions by certain soldiers and not as a policy of\nthe government  (e.g. see the Hawara case where a colonel was sentenced for\ngiving orders to kick Arabs,  as far as I remember).\n\nBye,\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"From article <1993Apr22.165659.8890@desire.wright.edu>, by demon@desire.wright.edu (Not a Boomer):\n\nHmmm... that's not quite right.  The Performa 600 is Real Darn Close\nto the IIvx (but a better buy IMO).  I also don't think they are so\nmuch a 'low-cost business solution', but a low-cost _home_ solution.\nWhy else bundle at ease (among other things)?  Hardly a business\napplication. \n\nWhat do you mean by 'no \"retail price\"'.  Quite the contrary, I think.\nThe price is darn near the same all across the country.  That (again,\nIMO) was one of the selling points of the performas -- ie: no haggling\nrequired.  Kinda like the Saturn (car) of the computer set.  One\nprice, medium performance, ready to go.\n\nWhen I shopped for my Performa (600CD), the difference between Sears\n(*sigh), Montgomery Wards, Silo (*sigh), Circuit City (*sigh*) and\nBizmart (*sigh*) couldn't have been $100.00.  Why I chose one over the\nother was based solely on availability and a friendly salesman who\nwent the extra mile (when did you last hear that about someone who\nsells Apples?).  Admittedly, except for Montgomery Wards (and I\nsuspect I was just lucky) all of the salesfolk I spoke to didn't know\ndidly about the computers, peecee or mac.  But then, neither did any\nof the  Apple dealers I spoke with...\n\nIf you would've told me a year ago that I would buy a Macintosh from\nMontgomery Wards I woulda laughed for a long, long time.  Go figure.\nI'm *real* happy with my Performa.  Oh, and I bought the Apple\nPerforma Plus monitor (vs. buying 3rd party).  Happy with that\ndecision as well.  I walked in, plopped down some cash, and walked out\nwith a spankin' new computer the day before Christmas.  \n-- \n---------------------------------------------------------------------\nInstrument Approach Procedures Automation             DOT\/FAA\/AMI-230","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Extract from the color README file for Anthony's Icon Library.\nFor Network discussion...\n\nColor Coordination...\n\n    I tried to start a discussion in `comp.windows.x' at the start of the\n  year about some sort of `standard color table' that icons should follow\n  (say 16 to 32 colors including 5 colors for a small grey scale). but no\n  one responded at all.\n\n    The problem is that if the colors for icons are just used willy-nilly\n  you will soon find that the workstations color table, devotes itself\n  solely the window manager, icons and other `adminstrative tasks' instead\n  of applications that actually require the colors for proper working.\n  ``Color needful applications'' such as :  Picture and graphic displayers,\n  Animation, Real Time video, Raytracers, etc... .\n\n    The following is a suggested color table for icons, and general use.\n  Icons, Window Managers, and general applications, should follow this\n  table or something like it, UNLESS the application is ``color needful''.\n\n     * for each primary color (red,green,blue) three colors\n             EG: values   0, 128 and 255.\n       This results in  3 ^ 3  colors (27) representing most of the\n       standard colors for use in icons.\n\n     * two extra shades of grey\n             EG: vales    (black) 0, 64, 128, 196 and 255 (white,red,...)\n\n     * 3 other colors -- probably of some primary color to provide shading\n       a and 3-D look to buttons and titlebars in the window manager.\n\n    This table represents 32 colors and represents a large range of\n  posibilities for the above ``administrative services'' of the\n  workstation.\n\n\n  Anthony Thyssen - (SysProg @ Griffith University)     anthony@cit.gu.edu.au\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n  A Gods idea of amusement is a Snakes & Ladders game, with greased rungs.\n                                           - Terry Pratchett   \"Wyrd Sisters\"","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nwho cares about typos of these meaningless, synthetic names?  if the\ncars were named after a person, e.g. honda, i'd be more respectful.\n\n\nwrong!  the GS300 and SC300 use straight sixes, while the ES300 uses a\nV6.  only a giant like toyota can afford to have both a V6 and inline\n6 in its lineup, but that won't last for long.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"David Hammerslag asked:\n\n\tHow do you (Mormons) reconcile the idea of eternal marriage\n\twith Christ's statement that in the resurrection people will\n\tneither marry nor be given in marriage (Luke, chapt. 20)?\n\nSeveral explanations for this seeming contradiction have been proposed,\nbut most LDS scholars whose opinions I have studied take more or less\none of the following three positions:\n\n(1) Jesus was talking to a group of people (Sadducees) who were trying\n    to trip Him up with what they felt was a silly hypothetical situa-\n    tion that ridiculed the concept of a resurrection (something they\n    didn't believe in).  These people -- and those associated with them\n    (\"Now there were with us seven brethren\", Matt. 22:25) -- would not\n    be receptive to such higher blessings as eternal marriage.  Hence,\n    the people in the story would likely not be married in the eterni-\n    ties; but that doesn't mean other, more faithful people could not\n    have this blessing.\n\n(2) Jesus was making a distinction between the state or condition of\n    =being= married, and the process of =becoming= married.  The latter\n    activity (marrying and giving in marriage) will not take place in\n    the eternities, because all eternal marriages will be taken care of\n    before then.\n\n(3) The account as we have it (in all three of the synoptic Gospels) is\n    missing something that would make its real meaning clearer.  Note\n    that we (LDS) do not believe in Biblical inerrancy, so we do not in\n    general feel obliged to reconcile each and every Bible text with\n    modern revelation through Joseph Smith and other latter-day proph-\n    ets.  Nor are we particularly upset that the account in question\n    was not significantly revised in the \"Joseph Smith Translation\" or\n    \"Inspired Version\" of the Bible, since we do not believe this work\n    was completed or that failure to revise a passage in the JST con-\n    stitutes divine approval of that passage as it stands in the KJV.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nW --> \nW --> SEE! The Providence Bruins lost the first two games at home and came back to\nW -->      tie the series on the road, there may be hope for the Bruins yet!\n\nToast. They're toast. (And I know how much you want me to eat these \nwords, but it ain't gonna happen.) Are the golf courses in the Boston \narea in playable condition yet?\n\n- Jack\n\n * Acid consumes 47 times its weight in life!","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nMy respect for the power of the hockey gods is preventing me from\ncommenting on the above, and for commenting on whether the guy\nDamphousse was traded for is on vacation or not. Perhaps Roger\n(demonstrably in contempt of the hockey gods and paying for it) dares a\ncomment or two?","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
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{"text":"More people have been asking for information on the Kubota graphics\nworkstations, so here is some more info on the Kenai\/Denali vs. the\nE&S Freedom.\n\n\nHere is the text of a Denali vs. E&S Freedom done by D.H. Brown Associates.\n\n------\n\nDenali bears a strong resemblance to Evans and Sutherlands Freedom graphics\nsubsystem in several aspects of its high-level design.  Both products use\na parallel array of 29050 processors for geometric computations.  Both\nhave a pixel router to connect this front end to a second array of\npixel processors.  As a result, Denali and Freedome overlap significantly\nin performance and functionality.  Both design teams also appear to have \nsimilar philosophies with respect to modularity, scalability, and market\npenetration.\n\nThere remain, however, several important differences between the KPC and\nE&S products.  Evans and Sutherland designed Freedom as a high-end\ndeveloper's dream system with plenty of performance potential and\nflexibility.  In its favor, Freedom has configurations from two to\nsixteen floating point units, a border range that starts and ends at\na higher price and performance levels than Denali.  All Freedom\nsystems include a large, fixed number of pixel processors that\nsupport a broader variety of color blending functions.  The Freedom\ndesign treats its entire image memory as general-purpose memory, allowing\ndevelopers to allocate it on a flexible basis to a number of special-purpose\napplications.  Finally, E&S provided Freedom with very flexible otput and\nvideo integration features for multimedia and simulation applications.  Note\nthat KPC is working an auxiliary board for NTSC and PAL output that will not\nrequire an external video encoder.  E&S programmable output features,\nhowever, will remain much more flexible.\n\nThe KPC design team, in contrast, made Denali more of an end-user's system.\nEntry version have better performance range and flexibility than low-end\nFreedom configurations, and come in at more realistic mainstream price\npoints.  Denali does not need as many 29050 modules as Freedome because\nit uses a deeper scan-conversion pipeline to support each one, resulting\nin better cost\/performance characteristics.  Although both products provide\nstrong support for 3D, imaging, and volume rendering, KPC recognized that\nnot all users will want an even mix of these capabilities.  Denali's\nconfiguration flexibility allows customers in effect to purchase\ngeometric and pixel processing capabilities separately, and to upgrade\nthem separately as needed.\n\nBoth companies have implemented hardware texture mapping at\nworkstation price levels as a way to attack SGI's more expensive\nVGXT and RealityEngine systems -- the only other products to provide\nthis capability.  KPC supports point sampling and bilinear interpolation\nof textures in hardware, but provides only software support for the higher\nqualtiy tri-linear interpolated mipmapping method.  On balance, however, Denali\nprovideds bettern overall texturing capabilities than E&S for most applications.\nAside from being much more affordable, KPC solutions deliver more parallelism\nfor texture processing and more off-screen memory for general graphics\ndata storage.  By implementing texture mapping on its transformation\nmodules, E&S foces customers to move very quickly to higher price levels\nto obtain better texturing performance.  Kubota avoids this problem by linking\ntexturing to its Frame Buffer Modules, providing a lower-cost, more scalable\nsolution.\n\nHope this helps,\n\nBrian","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Probably the most famous V16 is the one Cadillac made from about 1925  \nto 1935.  They had to scale down then because the Great Depression really put  \nthe crimp on luxury cars.  It had 452 cubic inches with over two hundred horse  \npower.  \"They don't make them like they used to.\"  \n\tThere were others though.  Packard had one until about 1930 whe it down  \nsized to their legendary Twin-Six, their mainstay for the next twenty years.   \nLincoln and Pierce Arrow might have also had one but I am not two sure.\n\tMost luxury and semi-luxury cars of this era at least experimented with  \nV16 if they did not actually produce them.  There was actually a \"cylinder war\"  \namong the Big Three to see who could produce the biggest engine.\n\nBig M","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I have following softwares for sale:\n\nNEW ITEMS (never opened):\n1. Lucid 3-D, three dimensional spreadsheet:\n   with pull-down menus, on-line help, up to 8 pages of notes behind every\n   cell for dynamic detail, 3-D capability, compatible with Lotus 1-2-3, etc.\n   $15 including shipping (manual, 5.25\" disks)\n\n2. Turbo Pascal Express\n   with 250 ready-to-run assembly language routines that make Turbo Pascal\n   faster, more powerful, and easier to use.\n   Book and 2 5.25\" disks\n   $15 (including shipping)\n\n3. Dr. Halo III\n   much more than an icon driven paint program - it's a complete page \n   composition and presentation graphics package. Automatic aspect ratio\n   correction for WYSIWYG printing. True color or grey scale output and partial    screen prints.\n   3 5.25\" disks and manual\n   $12 (including shipping)\n\n4. Key Form Designer Plus\n   software for making professional business forms.\n   3.5\" disks and manual\n   $25 plus shipping OBO\n\n\nLike-new items (package is opened but not registered):\n1. JetFighter II\n   Advanced tactical fighter F-23 as well as F-14, F-16, F\/A-18, and F-22.\n   3.25\" disks and manuals\n   $30 plus Shipping OBO\n\n2. Nighthwak F-117A Stealth Fighter 2.0\n   The definitive simulation of America's radar-elusive jet.\n   Sensational sound, nine world's \"hot spots\": Cuba, North Korea, the Kuwaiti T   Theatre of operations, central Europe, the North Cape, Libya, the persian Gul   f, Vietnam and the Middle East. Awesome missions to challenge you.\n   5.25\" disks and manual\n   $35 plus shipping OBO\n\n3. Grammatik IV - $20 plus shipping\n\n4. Quattro Pro 1.0 - make an offer\n\n5. GEM chart, graphics, word, publisher, ... V.3.0 - make an offer.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Does anyone know of a program or utility that will\nenable the Mac to read Unix (i.e. NeXT) 3.5 in. disks?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nCalm down.  It is not as if I tweaked the fount of the flame wars\nor anything (guns, anything to do with them).\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Brad Yearwood posts a long response to the issue of registering a\nphone-clipper relationship.\n\nIt doesn't wash.\n\nRecall that law enforcement gets a court order to tap a suspect's phone\ncalls. They do what they do now--figure out which lines to tap. They then\nrecord the stuff. If it's Clipper, they read the law enforcement block,\nextract the serial number, and get the keys using the court order.\n\nNo new difficulties (such as using someone else's phone instrument or phone\nline) are introduced that wouldn't have existed absent clipper. If the\ncrooks were going to use a pay phone (say), they could have done so without\nclipper. If the government figures out they're so doing, they listen in, and\nif it's a clipper conversation they get the serial number and then the keys.\n\nIf the crooks use an innocent person's clipper phone on the tapped line\nthere's no problem. The Feds don't care whose phone instrument is used, just\nthat the conversation is by the suspect on the tapped line. They get the\nserial number, get the keys, and they are in business.\n\nNo clipper chip to person association is ever needed.\n\nDavid","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"One of our users is having an unusual problem.  If she does an Alt\/Tab to\na full-screen DOS program, when she goes back to Windows her desktop fonts\nhave changed.  If she goes back to a full-screen DOS program and then goes\nback to Windows, the font has changed back to its default font.  It's not\na major problem (everything works and the font is legible), but it is\nannoying.  Does anyone have any idea why this happens.  By the way, she\nhas a DEC 486D2LP machine.\n ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nI too think that Joseph has had a GREAT year and should be considered for the\nVezina.  I think Barrasso and Joseph should be the two strongest candidates\nthis year.  I don't believe ALL of the hype that Roy, Belfour and now Potvin\nreceive for their goaltending.  I do think that they are great in the nets,\nbut I would rather have Curtis, Tommy or Fuhr in the nets during this years\nplayoffs.  The big name tenders always seem to have a strong defense in front\nof them and the goaltenders get the most credit.  I would rather face 25 shots\na game, than have to rely on Joseph saving 35, but if the goalie is going to\nface 35 shots, I would rather have Joseph or Barrasso facing them.\n\n-Jay\n\nps Go Quebec!!!  And I know that McLean and several others should be mentioned\nas candidates for this years Vezina, but I am partial to Joseph and Barrasso\nthis season.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nI've already written a 5000 char commentary (from my MCI MAIL account, so I\ncan't be accused of being a \"hacker\".)","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"can anybody guess this from the title?\n\nNot me, I thought that a clash between Israelis and Arabs resulted\nin four deaths on one side and two on the other.\n\n\nHow about being illegally settled there?\nI am not sure about the signals the Israelis are sending, one day\nthey are willing to accept a Jordan\/West Bank federation, the other\nthey do not recognize the west bank as occupied territory (neither\ndid the U.S, \"the honest brocker\")\n(details of the killings omitted, PLO,Hamas graffiti both claim responsability)\n\n\nNow don't tell me that this could not be an Israeli spy.\nWe will know later.\n\n\t\t\t*********************************\nNow the UPI shows its ugly face once and for all.\nUSUALLY?\nIt happened once this year, once last year. out of possibly thousands\nor more. Man how low can you get.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nSurprise, surprise. I sure didn't lose any sleep over it, and I live there.\n\n\nSuppose someone said that he was sure that he would return from death,\nin glory and power, flying in the clouds with the host of heaven,soon, within\nthe lifetimes of those then standing with him - and 2000 years went by without\nany such event. [He also asserted, so they say, himself to be God.]\n\n2 questions:\n\n\t1) Is that one of those \"false prophecies\" you were talking about?\n\t2) Does that make the speaker a false prophet?\n\n\nUhh,  Has it occurred to you that there is no way to know any of these\nthings, for certain, \"without the tiniest shadow of a doubt\"? That people\nwho thought they did have also been deluded?\n\nThose of us who believe in actually being able to _CHECK_ our opinions\nhave an out - we can check against some external reality. Those who\nassert that beliefs entertained without evidence, or even despite evidence\nhave a special virtue (ie. \"faith\") are out of luck -- and this is the\nresult.\n\n\nYou want to demonstrate Christian honesty? Great.\nStart with the prophecy above - what can we conclude about the speaker?","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Another factor against bringing the HST back to Earth is risk of contamination.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nOh are we Jill?  Let me tell you a story then...\n\nOne evening not long in this country a man, a parolee, a convicted KNOWN \nviolent crimminal lead police on high speed chase after breaking another law.\nHe decided that police had no right to do their jobs and enforce the law\nand assualted two of while attempting to resist arrest.  When police use\nmetal sticks to force him into submission we heard all the reason why certain\npeople in this country have and excuse when they refuse to obey the law, \nhow this was a perfect example of police oppression, how all the police\nhad to do was behave a certain way and all would have been finei, how nothing\nthe victim did could have possibly warranted the response - some blows with\na few sticks - he got from the authorities.\n\nFunny, how when it's Bloodbath Billy or his hitwench calling the shots,\na group of people who were bothering no one, were not know to have broken \nany law, who asked only that they be left alone to practice their religion\nas they fit, how it is now that the government is justified in assualting\nthose people with 100 heavily armed commandos simply because the gun \ngrabbers in DC thought these people had more guns thay they thought they\nshould have.  Now when it's the Clinton administration that has the blood\nof dozens on its hand AAAALL of a sudden it's the people who refused to\nhave their civil rights violated, it's their fault, those evil fanatics\nprovoked it...\n\nHow is it in the mind of the liberal Democrat-Clinton supporter that a\ncrimminal puke, scum bag, piece of garbage like Rodney King could not have\npossibly provoked the beating he got, but this bunch of wierdos could cause \na fifty one day stand off that ended with the burning deaths of all of them\nand their children, all by themselves with no help from the the police.  \nAnd to here people say they deserved what they got, to hear Clinton say\nthe blame rest solely with Koresch, what a cowardly piece of work that\nman has shown, again, himself to be.\n\nWE'RE blaming the right people.  It is you and others that defend ANY of the\nactions of the BATF, FBI or Justice Department in this matter, that with \neach word prove again and again the depth of the hypocrisy, the double\nstandard that people like the Clintons would hold certain Americans to. \nWhile at the same time allowing others to do as they please with only \nexcuses to offer their victims.  It's all to clear these days, from the\ncomments of the \"president\" and the rationalizations of his supporters\nin these groups, that in a liberal Democratic vision of America only\na certain select few people can expect to have civil rights enforced, \nand this administration intends to enforce laws, apply the Constitution\nand obey the laws only when it suits them to do so. \n\nThe Rooster\n\n\t\t\t\tWARNING!\n\n                   By order of Heir Clinton and for your own\n                personal safety: Remember to maintain membership\n                 in ONLY BATF approved religious organizations.\n\t \t   BATF approved religious services.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nThat's what MCI Mail is for!  (CompuServe also has \"CongressGrams\" (TM).)\n\nThis is not intended as an advertisement; that really is what MCI Mail WAS\nintended for (according to their ads).","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nCost is lower than OEM replacements and they weigh less. Also, in most \ninstances you do not have to rejet the carburetors to get a little more \nperformance. I replaced my OEM canister with an Ontario systems slip on.\nThe mid-range performance is better but I also notice a slight stumble at \n2-3K rpm. After talking to Kaz Yoshima, the developer and manufacturer of \nthe slip on, he thinks I might need larger pilot, idle, jets. Was not suppose\nto but maybe where I live makes a difference. Altitude, barometric pressure...\nAnyway, besides that minor glitch, I like the slip on performance and the sound,\nwhich is louder than stock, but not loud enough to annoy folks. The Ontario \nslip on use some sort of sound baffling technique to reduce the sound at full \nthrottle.\n\nJust remember, every bike is a tuned system. When you change the intake or\nexhaust characteristics beyond the allowable delta of the manufacturer, you may\nhave to change other areas to compensate. Like a complete change of the exhaust\nsystem, header and muffler, changes the exhaust characteristic to the point\nwhich re-jetting is required to compensate for the new engine breathing\/pumping\nprofile.\n\nTalk with the folks who make the slip on you intend to use and ask them if\nthey have used it on your particular bike. Check with people who have the\nsystem also to see what they think about there slip on.\n\nAlso, as a last data point, in Sport Rider's first issue, did a review on a\ngroup of header and exhaust systems for the CBR600F2. They also included, as a \nside bar, the Ontario slip on, the Dyno showed an increase from stock of 5bhp at\nthe rear wheel, 85 verses 91. \n\nBuyer beware, of outrageous claimed increases in horse power! It may have been \ntrue in the past, but not today!","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Hi, I am trying to compile a chart for Windows and DOS performance\nof local bus video card .  So if you have a DX2-66V and one\nof the local bus video cards below, please email me your Winbench\n3.11 and 3dbench(obtainable in ftp.wustl.edu, pub\/MSDOS_UPLOADS)\nscores.   Please give me Winmark score at 800x600x256 and\n800x600x64K.  I will post the chart if enough response if received.\n\nTseng ET-4000\/W32 VLB\nCL 5426 VLB\nS3 805\/928 based local bus card.\nATI Ultra Pro VLB\nOrchid Celsius 9000 VLB\nAGX based VLB cards(do they exist?)\nMatox MGA based video cards","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"As quoted from <nate.1504.735838830@psygate.psych.indiana.edu> by nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle):\n\nWhat laws did they circumvent?  Being \"frightening\" isn't a crime.  Some people\nare afraid of young Black males.  That doesn't make the mere status of being a\nyoung Black male a crime.\n\nThe BATF itself admitted leading off by throwing handgrenades.  There is no\nevidence that they properly identified themselves as law enforcement \npersonnel.  Under those circumstances, other persons have been found to be\nacting within their legal rights to exercise self defense against unidentified\narmed intruders.\n\nThe charges are irrlevant anyway, since the BATF has absolutely no jurisdiction\nin such matters anyway.  Of course that hasn't stopped them from making other\nsuch spurious charges, such as the existence of mythical \"meth labs\".  Of\ncourse they whole \"cult\" thing indicates the level of contempt that they have\nfor the 1st amendment.\n\nThat armed resistance, at least initially, may well have been LEGAL.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nBelieve Bugatti's coming(has) out  one.  Something like 4 turbos\nand mucho macho HP.  One cool price too, as i heard.  At any rate,\nthe point is, i'm pretty sure there is, indeed, one in production...\ntho rather limited..","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nI think it was a typo for \"Karelian photography\", which is the\npractice of taking pictures of either Finns or Russians, depending\non whom one asks.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nOr perhaps you write a freely available, GPLed unix for commonly\navailable computer platforms (i386\/i486 machines) and become a catalyst\nfor a major netwide project which produces a better unix-like os than\nmany commercial counterparts (see comp.os.linux for details).  Or maybe\nyou found a Legue for Programming Freedom to fight restrictive litigation\nand software patenting practices, thereby protecting the creative freedom\nso vital to continuing progress in our field.  Or maybe you start up\na gnu project, and produce by far and away the best c\/c++ compiler\nfor unix there is, not to mention other valuable utilities.\n\nSome hackers make significant contributions without selling out their\nideals.  As for Bill Gates, after pawning of grossly inferior software\nonto the PC market for ten years, if he ever was a hacker, he deserves\nto have his name eradicated from the Annals of Computer Hackery.\n\nAs for me, I like running linux+X+countless other packages, without\npaying a dime.  On the other hand, I have no problem purchasing motif\nor other good software, as long as Microsoft hasn't fouled it with their\ninept input.\n\nMy 2 cents worth, flames will be patiently ignored. :-)\n\nJean.\n-- \nJean Liddle                                 \nComputer Science, Illinois State University  \ne-mail:  jliddle@ilstu.edu                  ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"...\n...\n...\n\n\t\"Why don't you kill him Beav\"\n\n\t\"Well...I dunnow Eddie...I might get in trouble\"\n\n\t\"Here's a gun Beav, shoot him, Beav\"\n\n\t\"Well...ok Eddie\"\n\nBLAM BLAM","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Last night I tried to reinstall the utilities from the Windows 3.1 Resource\nKit disk. The setup program appeared to run perfectly normally, but when it\nhad finished, there was no Program Group created. Now, I know I've done\nthis before successfully, and creating a group myself didn't exactly tax\nme, but I'm curious as to what might be going on. I can only assume that\nsomething left over from the last time I had it installed is getting in \nthe way, but I can't figure out what. Any clues, anyone? \n-- \n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n: : \t\n: :         Hello,\n\n: :         Just one quick question:\n: :         My father has had a back problem for a long time and doctors\n: :         have diagnosed an operation is needed. Since he lives down in\n: :         Mexico, he wants to know if there is a hospital anywhere in\n: :         the United States particulary famous for this kind of surgery,\n: :         kind of like Houston has a reputation for excellent doctors\n: :         in eye surgery. Any additional info or pointers will be\n: :         appreciated a whole lot!...\n\n: There is one hospital that is here in New York City that is famous for its\n: orthopedists, namely the Hospital for Special Surgery. They are located on\n: the upper east side of manhattan. If you want their address and phone let\n: me know, i'll get them, i dont know them off hand.\n\nfor those who are interested the hospitals i was referring to are: \n\nThe Hospital for Special Surgery\n535 East 70th Street\nNew York, NY 10021\n212-606-1555 (Physician Referral Service & info)\n \nThe Hospital for Joint Diseases\n301 East 17th Street\nNew York, NY 10003\n212-598-7600\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nYes, weightlessness does feel like falling.  It may feel strange at first,\nbut the body does adjust.  The feeling is not too different from that\nof sky diving.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nWhat does Saturday Night Live have to do with anything? When they make fun\nof someone they do it with a little bit of creativity and talent. You, on the\nother hand, have a complete lack of creativity, talent, and verbal mechanics.\nAnd if you think that SNL is culture, then it just shows where your intellectual\nlevel is.\n\n\nGranted.\n\nOnly in part. Let's not forget that Nixon personally authorized the\nbreak-in of Ellsberg's psychiatrist.\n\nTell that to the House. That WAS the charge. Or are you going to challenge\nme on that as well? Subverting the constitutional rights of citizens has\nnothing to do with covering-up for Watergate. You have been proved wrong,\nagain. But I don't expect you to believe this since your arrogance has\nreplaced your reason.\n\nGranted.\nWrong again. You forgot about Ellsberg.\n\n\nThis would be funny, if it weren't so sad that you actually believe this.\nIn his \"loyalty\" he allowed the people who worked for him to take the \nrap, while he idly sat by and let it happen. If he REALLY was loyal to\nthe people who worked for them, he would have pardoned them before he \nresigned. \n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\"Death to all modifiers, he declared one day, and out of       Garrett Johnson\n every letter that passed through his hands went every      Garrett@Ingres.com\n adverb and adjective. The next day he made war on articles.\n The following day he blacked out everything in the letters\n but \"a\", \"an\", and \"the\".  - Joseph Heller's Catch-22","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Your list of Jewish ballplayers includes Levi Samuel Meyerle (son of\nJacob and Margaret Meyerle). Although that sounds like a Jewish name,\nMeyerle's \"surviving relatives\" say he wasn't Jewish, according to\n\"Nineteenth Century Stars,\" published by SABR in 1989. Incidentally,\n\"Long Levi\" (he was 6-foot-1) batted .492 in the first season of the\nNational Association, the first pro league. Needless to say, he hasn't\nbeen topped yet. (Of course, the NA is not considered a \"major\" league\nby officialdom.) Over five seasons, Meyerle hit .368 in the NA. He also\nplayed for the first three seasons of the NL, hitting .329.\n\n\n--\n--------------------------\nPhil Brown                |\naka pb6755@csc.albany.edu |","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n[stuff deleted]\n\n\n\nI think this goes along with a comment you made in an earlier post -\nnamely, Quinn taking advantage of a major league bonehead for a GM\nin St. Louis.  This trade was an absolutely stupid trade for St. Louis,\nand it was not the only stupid trade that this guy made.  We can give\nQuinn credit for being an opportunist here.\n\n[stuff about other trades deleted]\n\n\nHow do you figure?  Both Vancouver and Detroit did the same thing last year:\nThey both won their division, they had close to the same number of points,\nthey both went down 3-1 in the first round of the playoffs before finally\nescaping in 7 games, and they both got knocked out in the second round by\nteams they should have been able to beat, with less talent.  (Specifically,\nif I remember correctly, third place teams).  How does this make Vancouver\nmore improved?  Further, if I'm not mistaken, the Wings had more points than\nVancouver at the end of this season (albeit not many). \n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I have a Always IN-2000 SCSI card for sale  w\/manuals, software,\nand cables.  Make your best offer on this...","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI'd get the IIci. It's more expandable, just as fast, and preserves the\noption to run System 6.\n\nDavid Gutierrez\ndrg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"by the way ms. olmstead dna is not degraded in the stomach nor\nunder pH of 2.  its degraded in the duodenum under approx.\nneutral pH by DNAase enzymes secreted by the pancreas.  my\npoint:  check your facts before yelling at other people for not\ndoing so.  just a friendly suggestion.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I was skimming through a few gophers and bumped into one at NIH\n   with a database that included images in .GIF format.  While I have\n   not yet worked out the kinks of getting the gopher client to call\n   an X viewer, I figure that the majority of the users here are not\n   in an X11 environment - instead using DOS and MS-Kermit.\n\n      With Kermit supporting Tek4010 emulation for graphics display,\n   does anyone know of a package that would allow a Tek to display a\n   .GIF image?  It would be of more use to the local population to\n   plug something of this sort in as the 'picture' command instead of\n   XView or XLoadImage ...","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nI've had neither a baby nor a kidney stone, but according to my aunt, \nwho has had plenty of both, a kidney stone is worse. \n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"When attempting to connect to an SGI Indigo from a PC clone using\na commercial X windows emulation package, the X package hangs in\na pre-login X screen mode.  The login box won't display.  Using\nthe package in 'telnet' mode, I can logon to the SGI, and run any\nnone graphic type things.  On the PC I get an error:\n\"Read error 0 on socket 1\"  (raw socket error)\n\nOn the SGI, in xdm-errors:\nI get a termination error when I kill the stalled screen on the PC\n\nOn the SGI, in SYSLOG:\n<date><time><SGI> xdm[#]:Hung in XOpenDisplay(<remote>:0, aborting\n  \"                  \"  :server open failed for <remote>:0, giving up\n\nI have all access control disabled (I believe, SYSLOG message confirms\nthis when I login on the SGI).  I believe I have the SGI set up properly\nas described in the X ADm. book by O'Rielly....\n\nThe X emul package tech support hasn't been able to solve the problem.\n\nSo what I'm looking for is some suggestions on where to look for problems,\nand possible tests to run to narrow down the questions.\nThanks","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nPeter Nelson posted a very eloquent response to this point in \ntalk.politics.misc, so I need not consume more bandwidth here.\n\n\n\nWhat I meant, if it was not clear, was the intersection set of liberal\nand libertarian philosophies of \"natural rights\" and how the government\n(and Constitutional interpretation in particular) fits into that \nphilosophy.  This philosophy engages in the very serious practical \nerror of endowing the nine lawyers on the Supreme Court with an almost \ntotalitarian authority, completely outside of the consent or consensus \nof The People.  This is why Supreme Court nominations are such amazing\npolitical fist-fights these days, because He who Controls the Court\nRules the Country.  The people on the Court may well be trying to do\nthe best job they can, but they are at best a benevolent oligarch, even\nif you approve of every Supreme Court decision ever.  Eventually, an\noligarch will arise that will decimate that which you hold dear.  Try \nSupreme Court cases by Jury, and the problem would be mitigated a great \ndeal.\n\nThose who would create broad, non-enumerated government powers at any \nlevel (as in European Parlamentary Democracies and the current de-facto\nstandard in the U.S.) have essentially engaged in the same fundamental \nmistake, except that it is some different body that has the totalitarian, \nvirtually unchecked (except by plurality election, death, or retirement), \ngovernment power. \n\n\n\nThis is like asking why the wind blows, unless you can prove that\nthe fact of your engaging in certain activities has absolutely no \neffect whatsoever on any other human being who has not consented to\nyour engagement in those activities.  Very few human activities indeed\nfit into this category.  \n\nEven for those few that do, who would you empower to make the judgement \nof what is and is not a fully autonomous activity?  Who defines \"picking \nmy pocket\" and \"defrauding\"?  Are economic assets a person's only assets,\nor are peace of mind, stability, confidence in a child's emotional \nenvironment, security, and many other things not also a part of a person's\nassets?  What gives you the right to create a moral environment that a\nparent strongly objects to?  What gives you the right to create an \nenvironment of social unrest and instability?  If you say that what you\ndo does not have those effects, by what authority do you say that?  Who\nis empowered to make these value judgements?\n\n\n\nIf the Federal Constitution explicitly prohibited you from doing so, the \nfederal government would prevent you from doing so.  If it did not, and\nyou could muster enough local support to pass an amendment to the local\nConstitution (by, say, a 3\/4 majority) empowering the local government \nto do so, then I would have to vote with my feet and move to a neighborhood\nmore friendly to my own system of values.  This is not an ideal situation,\nbut it is far better than the mess we are mired in right now.\n\n\n\nWhen you define \"rights\" very broadly, there is no practical choice about \nwhether people will or will not infringe upon your rights since these\n\"rights\" overlap.  Even when rights are defined very narrowly, the government \nhas been empowered to prevent others from infringing on your rights.  The \nfundamental question is, by whose authority is that power created.  If you \nsupport the current situation with a \"natural rights\" Supreme Court (rather\nthan an \"original understanding\" Supreme Court or, even better, Supreme\nCourt by Jury), you are consenting to having nine lawyers in Washington, \nD.C. create those powers out of the air.  In my \"Fractal Federalism\" scenario, \nit is a broad consensus of The People (i.e. the amendment process) that \ncreates those powers.\n\n\n\nNo, I mean the federal government that comes trucking in with guns to\ntell the locals how to run their neighborhood.  Waco, TX is a nice example.\n\n\n\nIf you create a community where public masturbation is permitted in the \ncause of \"personal autonomy\", have you done anything different?  What\nprecisely are these autonomous activities you are referring to?  If you\nlist them, perhaps we can get enough people to agree that they are truly\nautonomous and pass a constitutional amendment protecting them.\n\n\n\n\nThe Koresh Incident appears to be a horrendous abuse of government power,\npower possibly illegitimately obtained through a means I would abolish. \nThe constitutionality of \"no-knock\" warrants seems very dubious to me, not\nto mention the mere existence of BATF and the government's propensity to \nignore the word \"infringe\" in the Second Amendment.  This power is upheld \nby the same body, with its incredible concentration of power in the hands \nof nine people, that has upheld much so-called \"Civil Rights\" (read- affirmative \naction) legislation despite the Fourteenth Amendment.\n\n\n\nMoney is certainly not the only asset I have in this world.  If it were,\nthis would be a bleak existence indeed.\n\n\n\n\nMatt Freivald\n\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\nLiBORGalism:\n             THINKING IS IRRELEVANT. INTEGRITY IS IRRELEVANT.\n          FREE SPEECH IS IRRELEVANT. PRIVATE PROPERTY IS IRRELEVANT.\n                 PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY IS IRRELEVANT.\n                     CONSERVATIVISM IS FUTILE.\n                      YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED.\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTHESE ARE MY OPINIONS ONLY AND NOT THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"For sale, 1988 Toyota Corolla FX, AM\/FM radio, nothing else.\nLow mileage - 28,000.  (I ride my bike to work.)\n\nDark Blue. Good condition. ONLY $3800.  \n\nI am leaving the country for a year and must sell this\ngreat city car.\n\nCALL RENEE FECTEAU - (408) 924-5171 leave message.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Hi, Everyone.\nI am  currently planning to write a program that traverses the\nimage of handwritten characters in ascii format and produces\ncircle and line representation of handwritten characters.\nDid anybody out there has any experiences on this problem?\nIf you have would you post or e-mail to please\nkevin\n\nDoes anyone has program that traverse the digital image and produces\ncircle and line\n-- \n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nKEVIN SHIN   kshin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"We need following data for human aorta:\n\n  Tear and shear stress for aorta.\n  A plot of the aortic cross-sectional area.  \n  Stroke-volume at the aortic root.\n  Approximate distribution of blood through the major arterial\n      branches of the aorta.\n  Flow velocity of blood in aorta.\n  \nWe have various values for flow velocity, If you have any data remember to\ngive us the references too include in our report\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Thank you Andrew.  Not only for the firm rebuttal, but for understanding the \ndifference between communism and socialism (even though this is off topic).\nWhy do people just not understand that just because all those pretty songs about\nthe land of the free and so on sound nice, that they may not be true?\nTake off those rose colored glasses and get a clue (to use two of the better \ncliches around)\nthanks you again\njamie\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nFine then.  Cut them off with pen and paper, and not the sword.\n\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\nSure there are quacks. There are quacks who don't treat and quacks who\ntreat. One's that refuse to diagnose and ones that diagnose improperly. \nThere are lucky quacks and unlucky quacks. Smart quacks and dumb ones. \n\nThere are people ahead of their time, with unprobable or unproven theories\nand rationals. There are ill-reasoned, absurd, theorists. \n\nSometimes it's hard to tell who's who.  \n\nReading a book of ancient jokes it seems that doctors called other doctors\nquacks in Babylon. \n\nArguments abound when there aren't any firm answers. Plenty of illnesses\naren't, or can't, be diagnosed or treated. But I think it's better to argue\nagainst the theory, as was originally done with postings on candida a month\nor so ago. Stating the facts usually works better than simply asserting an\nopinion about someone's competency. And you can't convince everybody. \n\nSometimes a correct diagnosis\ntakes years for people: they don't run into a doctor who recognizes the\ndisease, they haven't developed something recognizable yet, or they have\nsomething that no one is going to recognize, because it hasn't been\ndescribed yet. Sometimes they get a cure, sometimes the illness wears out,\nsometimes they stumble on an improper diagnosis with the right treatment,\nsometimes they find it's incurable.  \n\nThere is no profit in a patient accepting a hopeless attitude about an \nillness. Unless it's a rock solid diagnosis of terminal disease it's is\nmore like ly that a person will find a cure if they keep looking. ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Who is Ram Das?\n\nAccording to his brochures, he is a.k.a. Richard Alpert, PhD, and is\nsomehow associated with the:\n\n  Seva Foundation\n  8 N. San Pedro Road\n  San Rafael, CA  94903\n\nand the:\n  Hanuman Foundation \n  524 San Anselmo Ave #203\n  San Anselmo, CA  94960\n\nHe speaks publically on such topics as \"Consciousness & Current\nEvents,\" and has written some books and recorded some tapes on \nsimilar subjects.  \n\nWhy do I care?  My wife wants to go to one of his lectures.  When\nI asked why, she said Ram Das was \"the greatest spiritual leader\nof our time!\"\n\nSeveral years ago my wife got involved with a religious cult, and\nwe went through 9 months of hell that almost ended our marriage \nbefore she quit.  Let's just say I'm concerned about this Ram Das\nand her interest, especially so with the recent religious cult\nevents from Texas.  I need information - solid and real - so I \nknow what I'm dealing with.\n\nIf you have any information about Ram Das or the organizations \nshown above, I would be very interested in your correspondence.\nPlease reply via e-mail to me at:  scott%hpsdde@SDD.HP.COM\n\nThank you!\n\n  -- Scott Roleson","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I would like to find a Windows 3.x driver for a video board that is\nbased on the Chips & Technologies chipset.  The actual board is a\nScorpion Framegrabber made by Univision.  It is based on the C&T\nchipset, but only barely supports the graphics mode.  I am hoping that\nany C&T driver could be used in the 640x480x256 mode.\n\nThanks.\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\tWell tell us about your pool table!\n\n-=- Andy -=-","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"For those who didn't figure it out, the below message was a reply to another\nin sci.crypt, for which the poster put t.p.g. in the Followup-To line. I\ndidn't notice that. Apologies to those who were confused.\n\nThe substance makes little sense unless one reads the prior messages.\n\nHowever, I don't wish to enter into this discussion here, as it will be yet\nanother rehearsal of a long-tired set of arguments. Suffice it to say that I\ndisagree both with the interpretation of \"well-regulated\" in the Second\nAmendment offered by gun lovers, and what I think to be their distortion of\nthe same phrase in the associated Federalist papers. My Webster and my\nreading of the language convinces me that the word meant both under control,\nand disciplined, and not 'of good marksmanship'. I think the latter a\nspecial interest pleading. No one has yet shown a contemporateous reference\nin which \"well regulated\" unambiguously meant 'of good marksmanship', and\nnot under control\/disciplined, etc.\n\nThus I continue to believe the Second Amendment is a militia clause and not\nan 'arming everyone' clause. Others are welcome to disagree (as I know many\ndo) and little would be served by rehashing this topic in this particular\nforum.\n\nTo avoid flames, or unproductive rehashings, I note that I've come in here\nto post this one message, just to clarify the one below. I'm now outta here\nagain though I'm available via e-mail.\n\nDavid\n\n\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
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{"text":"The battery goes dead primarily becaust the floor is cold.  The temperature\ncombined with self-discharge promotes sulfation which ruins the plates of \nthe battery.  I strongly suspect that the only reason the battery doesn't\ngo dead as quickly on a dirt surface is because cement tends to be quite\ncooler.\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nIt's not scriptural, but comes from the patristic age, I think:\nsomething about \"amare errantem, interficere errorem\", which sounds\nmore like \"love the errant, slay the error\".  No doubt someone else \nwill know in particular who minted the phrase.  If I had to guess, I'd\nblame :-)  St Augustine, who seems to have had a gift for aphorism.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nThe Attorney General publishes the number of court-ordered taps each year.\nIt isn't enough (around a thousand) for the average non-crook, non-spy to\nworry about. In fact, considering any reasonable guess about the number of\nbig-time crooks and spies around, it may not be enough even for most crooks\nand spies to worry about.\n\nThere's no reason to believe that it will go up with Clipper, since the\nnumber of taps now includes many targets too stupid to use encryption (based\non the playbacks we've heard in court cases).\n\nDavid\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"[Note the \"Followup-To\" redirect(s) to alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc.]\n\n(Timothy J Brent) said in response to P.VASILION:\n\n\n(1) You have no evidence that David Koresh or his followers were\n\"packing\" that heavy weaponry with any intent to use for other that\nrecreational and self-defense purposes.\n\n(2) Your statement that \"the public also has rights\" is correct only is\nparsed as \"the individuals who comprise the public also have rights.\"\nThere is no separate rights-bearing entity known as \"the public\".\n\n(3) Since the \"rights of the public\" of which you spoke are in fact only\nrights of individuals, the statement that the rights of the public\nshould be placed above the rights of the individual has no meaning.\n\n(4) You have artificially created an illusionary conflict of\nindividuals' rights when you speak of \"my right to rape your daughter.\"\nNo person has the right to rape another person, therefore there is no\nconflict.\n\n(5) How do you define \"society?\"  Do you hold that this \"society\" is a\nrights-bearing entity which is separate from any individual people?  How\ndo you define a \"threat to society?\"  To what extent do you believe that\na person loses his rights when he is declared (by whom?) to be such a\nthreat?","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nOne of the things going for the DX2-66 (over the 50) is that it's\nclock speed complies with the VESA local bus spec.\n\nLance Hartmann (lance%hartmann.austin.ibm.com@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com)\n               Yes, that IS a '%' (percent sign) in my network address.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n   >They used a tank to knock a hole in the wall, and they released\n   >non-toxic, non-flammable tear gas into the building.\n\n       Non-toxic tear gas?!?  Do you know what tear gas is?\n\n       I do: once upon a time I happened to be in a room when someone threw \n       a tear-gas grenade in (that was supposed to be a joke:).  The sensation \n       was incredible: I felt my eyes and nostrils were being torn apart.\n       I remember us - a bunch of young men in our early 20's - running out\n       like a herd of wild animals, knocking down the door and jumping\n       out of the windows (thank G-d we were on the first floor).\n\n       I can't imagine this kind of stuff being used against children.\n\nFor them, the worst effect might not be the physical effects so much\nas the psychological effect of being incapacitated without fully\nunderstanding the cause.  Many years ago, I was accidentally exposed\nto a tiny dose of tear gas.  (It was in Athens, on the street leading\nto the American Embassy; there'd been a march that had been broken up\nwith tear-gas; I must have stumbled into a remaining patch of gas the\nnext day.)  Aside from the tears, feeling sick to my stomach, etc.,\nthe really horrible psychological effect was that of suddenly falling\nto pieces and not knowing why it had happened---I was horrified and\nwondered what disease or other health problem I had.  (I didn't find\nout about the march and the tear-gas till hours later.)  I can imagine\nhow horribly disorienting this might be to very young children:\nsuddenly crying uncontrollably and feeling sick, weak, and out of\ncontrol of your body---and not knowing the cause.\n\n``This gives us a chance to try the Gas of Peace.''  Yeah, right.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nI'd like to field this one, if I may.  Although I am a believer in and follower\nof Christ, my experiences with religion haven't been all that positive.  In\nfact, there was one point in my life when, for about three days, I simply\n_couldn't_ believe in the existence of God.  Anyway, when I look back upon the\ntroubles I've had, they seem to fall into two categories -- impulses to\nunbelief that resulted from logical contradictions, and impulses to unbelief\nthat resulted from frustration with God.\n\nThe first category doesn't occur to me much anymore, as I have worked through\nmost of the arguments for the non-existence of God.  But way back when, these\nwould cause me some problems, and I would have to struggle with my faith to\ncontinue to believe.  I can see where others less stubborn than I (and I do\nmean stubborn.  Stubborness has often been the only thing standing between\nme an atheism from time to time) would fail.\n\nThe second category arises out of some long-term personal difficulties and\nthe struggle to live my life as God would have me live it WITHOUT living my \nlife as others would tell me how God would have me live it.  A good example of\nthis is my struggle with the more radical Christians I meet.  I am not, nor\nhave I ever been, \"on fire for Chirst,\" and I don't think I ever want to be.\nNevertheless, I am not \"lukewarm\" about my faith, so I don't really\nfit in with the mainstream either.  Quite naturally, I feel a lot of anxiety\nabout my dislocation within Christian society, and it can lead to a lot of\ninternal tension, when I want to do what I _know_ is right,\nbut when another part of me believes that what I want to do is wrong because\nall the other Christians think so to.  Quite naturally, this tension has a\ndestructive effect on my relationship with God, and during all of this internal\nstrife, there's atheism sitting there like the promised land -- no rules, no\nresponsibilities, no need to live up to anyone's expectations but my own.\nComplete freedom.  Of course, it's all an illusion, but nevertheless, it's a\nvery appealing illusion, especially when the so-called \"people of God\" are\nbehaving like total twits.  I can easily understand why someone would go\nthat route, and would be hostile to ever coming back.\n\nIMHO, many of the former-Christians-turned-atheists-who-are-now-actively-\nhostile-to-Christianity are so because their experience with Christ and God\nwasn't a very peaceful one, but one of mind-control and \"shut-up-and-do-what-\nyou're-told-because-we-know-what's-best-for-you-because-it's-God's-will-and-\nyou're-to-young-to-know-what-God's-will-is-yet\" courtesy of some of Christ's\nmore overzealous followers.  \n\nA final reason why people become atheists is because Christians do not have a\nvery good reputation right now.  One of the things that attracted people to\nChristianity in the ancient days was the love that Christians obviously had\nfor one another and the world around them.  Unlike the rest of the world,\nChristian communities actively cared for their poor, and the Christian rich\ndid not trod on the backs of their poorer brothers, but bent down to help\nthem.  Christians were known for living exemplary lives, even if they were\nthought to be traitors to the state because they wouldn't sacrifice to the\nemporer.  Nowadays, courtesy of the media and some Christian leaders who lost\nChrist on their way to power, people see Christians as sexually-repressed\nhippocritical busibodies who want to remake society into a facist version of \ntheir own moral view.\n\nThere are a lot more reasons why people become atheists, but I don't have time\nto go into them right now.\n\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I have a nice VXC Moniterm 19 in B\/W monitor, formerly used on an ATARI ST.\nI think such monitors are \/ have been used on macs.\nCan someone tell me what mac can use it, what card I should get to use it, etc..\nThis monitor also has a label on the front saying Viking 2\/90, and has a DB9\nconnector.\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"OK, I heard a lot of talk about the NSA's infamous control over encryption\nexport through the ITAR.  Here's a question.  Say I develop this great new\nencryption system, and I want to sell my software worldwide.  The thought\npolice then come in and say \"This algorithm is a threat to national security.\nYou will not be permitted to export it.\"  At this point, what kind of trouble\ncould I get into if I ignored the ITAR and sold my program to international\ncustomers anyway?\n\nDoug Holland\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"This is maybe not a Pet Peeve, but definitely a Playmate Peeve:\n\n\nDoes this make anyone's Skeptic Alarm (tm) go off?  No offense, Bill, I\ndon't mean to say that you're not being straight, but I wonder how you\nknow about this?  Have you actually every used your secret method to break\nall the different kinds of bike locks?  Or are you taking someone's word\nfor it?\n\nThe fact is, it is unlikely that someone reading anything here is going to\ngo into a successful bike-stealing business because they read anything in\nrec.motorcycles.  So please tell us what you are talking about.  We can't\neven protect against an assault, or discuss methods, if you don't come out\nwith it.\n\nSee, I have heard the ones about the pipes, and the liquid nitrogen, and the\ncordless Dremel tools, and a bunch of other ones.  The most plausable method\n(I am not a bike thief, so I really don't know for certain) is just to put\na rod through each wheel, and use four guys to just lift the bike into a\ntruck.  This works because most people don't lock their bikes TO anything.\nSince that method is so childishly easy, I figure a nice, visible chain or\ncable locking the bike to something is likely to make a lazy thief go on\nto the next bike.\n\n(Hey, finally an advantage to the weight and high CG of the Concours!  :-)\n\n\nWhat tactic are you referring to?  If we don't know what you are talking about,\nwe can't very well guard against it, can we?\n\nFor my money (literally) I rely on a combination of a motion-detector alarm\nwith pager when I'm out of earshot of the bike in a questionable area, C&C\ninsurance, and I try to park in obvious, visible areas with lots of people\nabout.  (See, if someone just plays with the bike without intention of\nstealing it, at least some eyes are on it, and if they get too rambunctious,\nthey'll set off the alarm.)\n\nThat's for a nice bike.  For a ratbike, the trick is to always keep its\nactual value well below blue-book, so that it looks so crappy nobody would\nWANT to steal it, and even if they were stupid enough to, you would make\na profit on the deal.  :-)\n\nSeriously, if I (for instance) need to go on a business trip for a week,\nand (sadly) have to leave the bikes sitting, they both get a shitty-looking,\nbut useable cover, locked on, and both bikes locked to each other and a\ncurb bumper in the parking lot under the light.  I usually rig the cable\nlocks I use (aircraft cable) so that if anyone pulls on either bike or\nthe cable joining them, the Concours alarm goes off.  And I have a friend\ncome buy every day to have a look and make sure they're still there.  The\nonly thing I have ever had stolen was a $60 cover, and that was over \nwinter storage, with the battery out of the bike (and thus no alarm).\n\nOh, put your own eyelets into the cover for the locks to pass through, and\nplace them so that they have to absolutely destroy the cover to get it off.\n\nThat's the best that I can think of.  Most of the locks I see people put\non bikes look, well, not too mechanically sound.  I like ABUS, since I have\npersonally removed Master locks from lockers with my boot.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Hi- Does anybody know the # for ticket info for Fenway?\n\nThanks","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":" \n \nIMHO this are going from bad to worse. 3-in-1, 1-in-3 was bad enough.\n \nI do not like a God who prays to Himself.  I refuse to believe Jesus prayed\nto Himself  --   let's get real, if the scriptures say He prayed to the\nFather, then the Father IS someone different than the Son.  I have no\nproblems with multiple Gods.  To me, the whole context of the scriptures\nco-heirs with Christ; that we will be like Him.\n \nCo-heirs share all things equally--including knowledge, power, dominion etc.\nWhen I am like Him (Christ), I will be the same as HE is--and He is a God.\n \nIf God cannot do this, the His is not all powerful--and He is NOT God.\nIf He will not, He is a Liar--and He is NOT God.\n \nBut if He does, He is the greatest of all the Gods.\n ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"DN> I think I took on this 'liar, lunatic, or the real thing'\nDN> the last time. Or was it the time before?  Anyway, let\nDN> somebody else have a turn.  I can't debate it with a\nDN> straight face.  Or perhaps for something completely\nDN> different we could just ridicule him or gather up all the\nDN> posts from the last two times we did this and email them to\nDN> him.  As an aside, can you believe that somebody actually\nDN> got a book published about this?  Must have been a vanity\nDN> press.\n\nI would recomend to anyone out there to visit your local Christian bookstore\nand become aware of the stuff they sell.\tQuite\ninteresting.  Most of the stuff is far from intelectual.  (About the level of\nChick pamphelets...)  If it is a common fundie bookstore, it should have at\nleast one section about how you should hate Wiccans, Pagans, Catholics,\nMormons, rock musicians, and anyone else who is not as fanatical as them. \n(Hate for the \"Love of God(tm)\"!) It is even more interesting watching the\npeople who frequent such places.  Very scary people.  They hear voices from\n\"God\" telling them whatever they want to hear.  (If they were not Christians,\nmost of them would be locked away.  Maybe this is why Federal money was\nreduced to Mental institutions by the reagan administration...\tHad to get\ntheir religious leaders out...)\n\n\"Where would Christianity be if Jesus got eight to fifteen years, with time\noff for good behavior?\"\n\t New York State Senator James H. Donovan on Capitol Punishment\n\n                   Alan","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Looks like someone left their terminal unattended.\n+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+\n\n \/~~~~~~~\\\n\\_____    |\n      |   | TTTTTT EEEEE VV     VV EEEEE     |\n      |   |   TT   EE     VV   VV  EE        |\n \/---\/    |   TT   EEEE    VV VV   EEEE      | Steve Liu                    |","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I have placed a new release of my aXe editor in aXe-5.0.tar.Z on\nexport.lcs.mit.edu (18.24.0.12) and arjuna.ncl.ac.uk (128.240.150.1).\n\nThe significant change this time, and the justification for the hike\nin the major version number, is:\n\n  o undo has been implemented.\n\n    By default only the last change can be undone, but a resource is\n    provided to allow the user to specify how many, including unlimited,\n    levels of undo information should be kept. Also, undo of undo is\n    supported.\n\nThere is no truth in the rumour that the next version will be EmaXe 19 :-)\n\n                          -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\n\nFor those who have not encountered aXe before here is a summary of\nwhat it is all about:\n\naXe is a simple to use text editor for X that represents a significant\nimprovement over xedit. Also built around the Athena Text Widget it\nfeatures, amongst other things,\n\n   o multiple windows\n   o multiple buffers\n   o default menu interface\n   o optional button interface, with choice and layout of buttons \n     under user control\n   o minibuffer for expert use and access to external filters\n   o provision for defining a keyboard macro\n   o geometry specification and resizing in terms of characters\n   o file selection via a browser\n   o knowledge of line numbers\n   o parenthesis matching\n   o regular expression searching\n   o restricted or unlimited undo\n   o ability to change font\n   o easy entry of control codes\n   o xterm-like keymap feature\n   o easy runtime setting of selected preferences (resources)\n   o both brief and comprehensive on-line help\n   o server mode with cooperating client programs\n   o optional extension language using Tcl\n   o optional Xaw3d widget set compatability\n   o collection of reusable widgets that embody the functionality of aXe\n\nI have personally built and run core aXe, i.e. without the Tcl and\nXaw3d options, on the following systems:\n\n   Sun SPARC        SunOS 4.1.x     MIT X11R5\n   Sun SPARC        SunOS 5.1       MIT X11R5\n   Encore Multimax  UMAX 4.3        MIT X11R5\n   DEC 5000\/120     ULTRIX 4.2      MIT X11R5\n   HP 9000\/710      HP-UX 8.07      MIT X11R5\n   MAC IIci         AU\/X 3.0        MIT X11R5\n   \nbut not all have been subject to the same level of testing. I have\nonly tested the Tcl and Xaw3d options on the first.\n\nA number of '#ifdef SYSV'-isms that have been fed back to me have been\nincorporated into the code and a possible scandir replacement is\nprovided for those systems that do not have one.\n\nAlthough aXe will probably build under R4 run-time problems have been\nencountered in the past. I have not bothered to try this version under\nR4, and have not put any effort into solving previously known\nproblems.  Therefore, if you are at R4 you very much take pot luck. If\nit doesn't work the only alternative is to try the last release,\n2.1.1, of version 2 which should still be around. It doesn't have as\nmany features and uses the Widget Creation Library (Wcl). Not only\nthat, it requires an old version of Wcl, 1.06 or 1.05. Version 3 of\naXe was nearing completion when version 2 of Wcl came out so aXe 2\nnever got converted to make use of it.\n\naXe is available by anonymous ftp from export.lcs.mit.edu (18.24.0.12)\nand arjuna.ncl.ac.uk (128.240.150.1) initially, and probably in due\ncourse from several other ftp sites.  Check your nearest using\nxarchie.\n\nIf you can't ftp, try sending email to ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com with the\nword \"help\" alone in your message body.  You will receive instructions\non how to ftp via email.\n\nJim","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Gentlefolk,\n\n        It seems to me that the \"Step 1\" of taking a warrant to the\n        telco to get a wiretap is so much stinky red herring (don't\n        you love animal metaphors).\n\n        With each phone broadcasting the serial number of its chip\n        (\"E(N;F)\" is not syntactically different than \"N\"), all they\n        have to do is aim a reciever in the general direction of\n        today's target and use the serial number to identify the\n        session they want, and get the chip number of the other end of\n        the conversation. Even without the key, this is great for\n        traffic analysis. I can think of several ways to learn the\n        right serial number.\n\n        It looks like one intended effect of the Clipper is to\n        eliminate the awkward business of getting the telco to\n        cooperate (or risking getting caught in the act with your\n        alligator clips erect). This is particularly handy if you have\n        S1 and S2.\n\n        BTW, did anyone explain why they are scrambling the serial\n        number?\n        \n        Cheers,\n                Marc\n\n---\n Marc Thibault                             | marc@tanda.isis.org\n Automation Architect                      | CIS:71441,2226\n R.R.1, Oxford Mills, Ontario, Canada      | NC FreeNet: aa185","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"The RISC processor made by Fairchild, sold to Intergraph, much the same\nstory as the R4000.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n..\n\n\tI think the -traditional option to gcc would help.\n\tpersonally I used -traditional -O2 -funroll-loops to compile it\n\ton SUN4.1.1.\n\n\thope this helps...","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nAnd it is a damn good thing that she did post it since she claims to represent\npeople in rec.sport.hockey.\n\n\n\nHer sole purpose in mentioning the net, as Steve Gallichio has already \npointed out, is to lend weight to her points through association with the\ninternet.  There is no other reason to mention the internet.  This is \nmisrepresentation and if the internet was a private corporation Alison\nwould be leaving herself wide open to all kinds of civil suits.\n\n\nThis is not a letter.  It is a petition claiming to represent a large\nproportion of rec.sport.hockey users, and by implication, a significant\nnumber of internet users.  65 names can in no way be considered a \n\"large\" proportion of rec.sport.hockey which, while we have no way of\ncounting actual readership, is accessible to hundreds of thousands of\npeople.  65 persons is no more than a fly's fart in a windstorm.\n \n\n\nGee.  You looked up \"large\" in the dictionary?  What next?  Two syllable \nwords?\n\n\nLet me suggest that the only place you are likely to envy the magnitude of \n65 is when you are looking for ways to beef up your IQ scores.\n\n\n\nAs I said, he *might* be impressed by the size of the list of names.  But \nit would have to be considerably larger.  But even this definition does\nnot account for the original context from which you lifted this sentence.\n\n\nWell then what the hell is your point?  You don't really know if you have\nan opinion about the hockey issue but you do know that you don't like me.  \nIs that it?\n\n\n-- ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nOh, please, enlighten us all. What articles in particular are you\nquoting from? I'm doing my Masters in Psychopathology and it would\ninterest me greatly in seeing these articles that you know exist\n(yet I know nothing about). I'm sure I could give them to people\ndoing their PhD's. With information like this, they'll have their\ndegree in no time.  (sprinkle sarcasm where applicable)\n\nDon't bother with the little-girl-is-raped-by-her-daddy-and-is-now-\na-lesbian-because-of-it studies. They have always been under critical \nscrutiny as to their validity. (Correlation != causation).","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"For sale:\n---------\n\nOne complete set of Lifecall Equipment, including the base unit,\nportable transmitter and pendant plus 30 days free monitering service.\n\nDescription of item:\n-------------------\n\nConvenient and secure to anyone:\n\n1. whose home is being broken into\n2. whose parents live alone.\n3. who has children or elderly parents\n4. who suffers a heart attack or stroke\n5. who is temporarily or permanently disabled.\n6. and more.\n\nSuperior features:\n\n1. Allows you to talk to the monitering center using the transmitter;\nhelp will be sent to you as soon as possible.\n2. Allows for personal freedom and independence.\n\nDeal\n----\n\nItem is worth US$2400 in open market. Asking for $2000 or best offer.\nInterested please email at kmgoh@leland.stanford.edu\nor call at (415) 497-0663. Will send the certificate of delivery and\nrelevant documents to you.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nSo instead you are asking individual citizens to place themselves at risk\nby assuming that everyone who claims to be a cop, actually is a cop.\nAround here the police have actually made public service announcements saying\nthat if you are a lady driving by yourself at night and you see blue lights\nflashing behind you. Do not pull over until you reach a well lit, preferably\noccupied place, gas station etc.\n\n\nIt wouldn't be murder, it would be self defense.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nHi Bruce.  How do you reconcile this practice with Ezekiel 18?\nEzekiel 18:20 \"The soul who sins is the one who will die.  The son will not\nshare the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the\nson.  The righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and\nthe wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him.\"\n\nIs Ezekiel 18 not translated correctly in your eyes perhaps?\n\nSincerely,\n\nAaron Cardenas\n\nP.S. I too am bothered to see offensive words being posted on this\nnewsgroup.  Obscenity is out of place for anyone who wants to live by the\nBible (Eph 5:4).\n\nModerator:  I would appreciate your not letting posts with foul language\nthrough, which has happened at least twice lately.  Thank you.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
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{"text":"I'm looking to buy a '92 Toyota Previa All-Trac with low miles.\nIf you are selling one, or want someone to buy out an existing lease,\nplease contact me by mail.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I'm looking for a good terminal program that will connect to\nTCP\/IP using windows. Some basic MS-Window that is connect to\na unix host would be great.\n\nAny suggestions?\n\nThanks.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I've got 2 sets of sample cd's for sale\n\nset one (2cd's)-geared towards house\/techno\/pop and rap\n\nThe 1st cd is all drum loops and drum sounds over 1500 of them\nThe second contains analog synths, basses, bass loops,  wavestations, vox\nloops and much much more. \n\nThe second set-\n\nA variety of different sounds from new age to rock etc... kind of a\nsampler cd..(pardon the pun)\n\nBoth have never been used and I can supply a list of categories for the\nsounds if someone is seriously interested.\n\nI'd like 130 for all three as they were $200ish new...\n\nMichael","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nI do not want to convince anyone. This is just USENET, not the real\nworld. I just read the opinions others have about a subject, and sometimes\nI present my opinion. I think that this net is only useful to exchange\nideas. I never wanted nor I want now to convince anyone of anything.\n\n\n\nFirst, and I repeat it, I never said that the idea of Jews having the\nright to have a State is racist.\nZionism, as a movement, is more than just that idea. I think that Zionism\nin the way it defines who is a Jew, for example, is racist-like.\nIn the same way I believe that Irish have a right to nationalism but I do\nnot support the bombing and killing of the IRA, I believe that Jews have\na right to nationalism but I do not support Zionism as it is right now.\n\n\nThat is what makes the basis for Zionist movements. However, I am not \nconsidering just that, but the rest of it. \n\n\nWhich makes an interesting point. People living in a Jewish State have\nshown that Jewish culture includes in it Jewish religion but they are\nnot the same. So, the Jewish people living in the Jewish State have shown \nus that there are some problems in a State where 80% of the people is secular\nbut Judaism is define according to religious standards, or where marriage\nis a religious stage, or where the Law of Return defines a Jew according to\na religious standard.\nDid those Israelis who do not believe in god and will never do become \nnon-Jews? Why should they still define then a Jew based on what is a \nreligious definition?\n\n\n\n\n\nAccording to Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary, Merriam-Webster Inc,\nPublishers, Springfield, Massachusetts, U.S.A., 1986, page 593, \n\nhy-poc-ri-sy: A feigning to be what one is nnot or to believe one does not.\n\nSo, saying that one believes in Zionism as a simple matter of people \nhaving the right to nationalism, but disregarding the right of the Palestinian\npeople to do the same, according to this dictionary, is hypocrisy.\n\n\n\nI know what my words mean. I do stand by what I said I believe: Zionism is\na form of racism. Of course, I tend to talk about things as they are and\nnot as they are defined in a broad sense.\n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"s:\n\n\nAhhh yes, Andrew, we meet again...\n\n...no, not 'stealing' the oil, just draining it as to leave me stranded.\n\n\nLet me guess, you're from Hudson Ohio??\n\n\nGet out and see the world.\n\n\n\"IF\" I were the vandal, and I really hated someone, maybe someone who knew\nsomething about cars, of course I would look for ANY types of valves I could\nundo.  Especially, special oil drain plugs, and radiator petcocks.\n\nAs well as putting bad things in the gas...\n\nWhile I would never vandalize someone's car, IF I were to, it would probably\nbe the 'time bomb' approach, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks\nthat way...\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nHello, a friend is under going kemotherapy(sp?) for breast cancer. I'm\ntrying to learn what I can about it. Any info would be appreciated.\nThanks.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nI have always thought that if I wanted to send the Police a tape with\na ransom demand on it, or send CNN a video tape to see if they wanted\nto buy it, I would place a small magnet near the take-up spool so the\ntape would be erased as it was played. Who would think to check?","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":": \n: If the Bible is such incredible proof of Christianity, then why aren't\n: the Muslims or the Hindus convinced?\n: \n: If the Qur'an is such incredible proof of Islam, then why aren't the\n: Hindus or the Christians convinced?\n\nIf God exists, why aren't atheists convinced?\n\n--","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
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{"text":"I'm glad this forum came up. I've been pricing insurance lately and had        considered GEICO. But no more!! Any company with practices like theirs can\nE.S.A.D.!! I'll stay with Liberty mutual.\n\nSteve Nicholas\nWells Computer Center - Georgia State University\noprsfnx@gsusgi1.gsu.edu","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
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{"text":"The problem with your nihilistic approach, Roger, is that it takes all the\nsense out of the game.  By your line of reasoning, if a guy hits into a\ndouble play with one out and the bases loaded, there's no point in saying\nthat that was a bad thing to do (if his team won anyway) or speculating\non what might have happened if things had gone otherwise, so the double\nplay is merely an event that happened in the course of a game that was\neventually won or lost for unknown reasons.  After all, any speculation\ninvolves constructing a fantasy about what would have happened but didn't.\n\nRoger, do you ever worry that the next pencil you drop will fall to the\nceiling instead?  Or are you willing to consider empirical evidence?\n\nTeams go to the post-season when they win more games than anybody else\nin their division.  If they don't make the post-season, they don't win the\nSeries.  Will you agree that winning a division is a useful intermediate\ngoal in ring-collecting?\n\nIf so, you must agree that winning games is a useful intermediate goal\ntowards winning the division, and our disagreements come when we consider\nhow to win games.\n\nIn your viewpoint as expressed, winning games happens for reasons that\ncannot be analyzed.  While many of us are thinking things like \"Base-\nrunners are good, outs are bad, and therefore walks are better than\ndouble plays with the bases loaded\", you are thinking things like\n\"It's a team game, so perhaps the double play will cause some mysterious\nteam dynamics that will cause the team to win today\".\n\nThe result is that it becomes impossible to say *anything* about individual\nplayers.  Perhaps Atlanta would have won the Series with me playing left\nfield.  After all, perhaps in some way my knowledge and personality would\nhave helped the team more than my complete lack of skill would have hurt\nit.  Therefore, I could be an extremely valuable player.  Did Dave Winfield\nhave anything to do with the Jays' victory?  Probably, but how do you know?\nIf you replace him with Andres Galarraga, perhaps the Jays would have won,\nperhaps they would have lost, perhaps they would have defected to Alpha\nCentauri (bearing in mind that the flying saucers would not have landed\nin mid-season had Winfield been DHing for Toronto).\n\nWas Babe Ruth a good player?  He played on some WS-winning teams, but did\nhe have anything to do with their success?\n\nIt is generally accepted that Ernie Banks was a good baseball player, and\nJarvis Brown and Dan Schatzeder weren't.  It seems to me that anybody who\nwould deny this needs to provide the proof.\n\nNow, we have observed things about baseball over the years, both empirically\nand by looking at the rulebook.  It is necessary to score more runs than\none's opponent to win the game, so it would seem important to score runs\nand to prevent one's opponent from scoring.  Runs are scored while a team\nis batting, and an inning ends after the third out, so it would seem that\nmaking outs is bad while hitting home runs is good.  Players have tendencies\nto hit or pitch at certain levels, and these are usually somewhat consistent\nfrom year to year.\n\nWe do use these statistics to predict winners, and so do you.  To make\nsome flat predictions:  Barry Bonds will have a higher OBP+SLG than\nGene Larkin this year.  The Braves will finish ahead of the Rockies\nin the standings.  The Tigers will score more runs than the Royals, but\nwill also give up more.  I would be astonished if any of these turned\nout to be false, and, I suspect, so would you.  As a matter of fact, I\nam pretty sure I can predict all the division winners this year, given\n3-4 guesses per division, and this is certainly better than random\nchance (and almost statistically significant).\n\nIf you will admit that the Rockies and Mariners are unlikely to meet in\nthe World Series, you must admit that there is some sort of way to measure\nlikelihoods, however fuzzy.\nSo how about \"real life\"?  Person A robs a service station with two people\nin it, using a .38 automatic pistol, gets $42, and is convicted and sentenced\nfor three years.  Person B, with a similar criminal record, robs a service\nstation with two people in it, using a .38 revolver, gets $42, and is\nconvicted.  Since they used two different types of handgun, are comparisons\ntotally meaningless?\n\nSay you drop a pencil to see if the gravity still works (my cats are always\ntesting this - they don't trust me to pay the gravity bill on time).  You\nhave never dropped a pencil at that exact time of the century before, so\nall previous evidence is meaningless?  Or would you be surprised if it flew\nout the window instead of hitting the desk?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Brandon Wise\nbwise@nyx.cs.du.edu\n\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n   This idea, that the Reformers somehow were the first to bring the\nBible to the people in their own language, is a myth.  Many vernacular\ntranslations of the Bible existed long before the Reformation.  The\nVulgate Bible, which is still the official version of the Bible for the\nCatholic Church, was itself a translation in the common (i.e. vulgar ==\nvulgate) tongue of its day, Latin, and had existed for about a millenium\nbefore the Reformation.\n\n   It might also be noted that the printing press was not even invented\nuntil the same century as that in which the Reformation occurred.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Does anyone know how to zap the PRAM on the Duo 230. Inaddition I have recently\nnoticed that checking the ram left in the finder on the duo 230 4\/80 \nreveals the normal 1800K for the system file but only about 1\/10 to 1\/5 of the\nbar is actually highlighted implying that only 2-300K is being used for the\nsystem. What gives? I have had no crashes yet or other software problem...","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nGreat start.  I realize immediately that you are not interested\nin discussion and are going to thump your babble at me.  I would\nmuch prefer an answer from Ms Healy, who seems to have a\nreasonable and reasoned approach to things.  Say, aren't you the\ncreationist guy who made a lot of silly statements about\nevolution some time ago?\n\n\nDuh, gee, then we must be talking Christian mythology now.  I\nwas hoping to discuss something with a reasonable, logical\nperson, but all you seem to have for your side is a repetition\nof the same boring mythology I've seen a thousand times before.\nI am deleting the rest of your remarks, unless I spot something\nthat approaches an answer, because they are merely a repetition\nof some uninteresting doctrine or other and contain no thought\nat all.\n\n[..]\n\nI have to congratulate you, though, Bill.  You wouldn't\nknow a logical argument if it bit you on the balls.  Such\na persistent lack of function in the face of repeated\nattempts to assist you in learning (which I have seen\nin this forum and others in the past) speaks of a talent\nthat goes well beyond my own, meager abilities.  I just don't\nseem to have that capacity for ignoring outside influences.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"+ I am looking at a new LC III and a used IIci.  Prices\n\n+ The IIci has much greater potential for expansion, a la NuBus and\n+ greater memory capacity.\n\nHow important is this? How many NuBus cards do you have\/plan to\nacquire? How much memory do you really need? I've got a ci, and\n20mb of ram. That's plenty. I also have a 24bit graphics card\non the NuBus - I'm a sucker for pretty pictures...I think the\nLCIII can have a bootable ramdisk in memory, which a ci can\nnot have. At least, not out of the box.\n\n+ The LC III would be new, under warranty, newer ROMs (is the IIci\n+ \"32-bit clean\"?), and would have sound input.  I also like the\n+ \"pizza-box\" case.\n\nThe ci is 32-bit clean. I solved the sound input problem with\na MacRecorder. But that's gotten to be a fairly expensive\nsolution now that Macromind owns MacRecorder.\n\n+ Performance-wise, I have read that they are almost identical, the\n+ LC III being a little slower.\n\nThe actual difference is probably not worth worrying over.\n \n+ So, which should I get?\n\nDepends on the price you can get the ci for. Educationally speaking,\nthe 4\/80 [?] LCIII here at FSU can be had at just under $1300. Add\nin roughly $500 for a monitor. Last I'd heard, an 8mb LCIII simm\nwent for ~$250. \n\nI think you're in a win-win situation. No matter what you decide,\nyou'll most likely be happy with it.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"This is the story of Kent, the archetype Finn, that lives in the \nBay Area, and tried to purchase Thomas Paine's \"Age of Reason\". This\nman was driving around, to Staceys, to Books Inc, to \"Well, Cleanlighted\nPlace\", to Daltons, to various other places.\n\nWhen he asked for this book, the well educated American book store\nassistants in most placed asked him to check out the thriller section,\nor then they said that his book has not been published yet, but they\nshould receive the book soon. In some places the assistants bluntly\nsaid that they don't know of such an author, or that he is not \na well known living author, so they don't keep copies of his books.\n\nSuch is the life and times of America, 200+ years after the revolution.\n\n\nCheers,\nKent","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nA very well put together post. I disagree with several key points, but the\npost is an excellent one with which to \"engage in discourse\":\n\n    >There has been much discussion recently about the right to\n    >freedom of association. Mr. Cramer and Mr. Ronzone appear to\n    >take an absolutist position on this right--that it is a\n    >fundamental human right, perhaps the fundamental human right,\n    >and that it supersedes other rights, such as the right to an\n    >equal opportunity. Others feel that a right to an equal\n    >opportunity outweighs the right to freedom of association,\n    >and thus we have the never-ending debate that flares up\n    >repeatedly.\n\nFreedom of Association (FOA) involves the MUTUAL and VOLUNTARY agreement of\ntwo or more people.\n\nRight to Equal Opportunity (lets call it REO) involves coercion in all cases\n(by definition).\n\n\n    >A major problem is that neither of these rights are\n    >explicitly declared or protected in the Constitution or in\n    >the Declaration of Independence, although both can be derived\n    >from these documents. Unfortunately, this means that the\n    >debate will never end, because neither side can conclu-\n    >sively prove the validity of their view--it becomes solely a\n    >matter of personal philosophy.\n\nYes, there is much debate. But no, it can end, with once and for all\nrecognition of these rights. (Well, not totally 100% perfect end, but end\nin the same way that there is no worldwide disagreement that say, murder, is\na crime).\n\n\n    >My personal opinion is that the real answer lies somewhere in\n    >between. I regard both of these rights as fundamental human\n    >rights which, unfortu- nately, come into direct conflict with\n    >one another. Which is stronger depends on the given\n    >situation.\n\nHmm, there is even MORE discusion about religion. Should  we take a \n\"somewhere in between\" approach towards the State & a State recognized\nreligion? The first amendment, is so, uh, so absolutist you know.\n\n    >For example, if the owner of a \"mom-and-pop\" store wishes to\n    >hire an employee to help out, their right to freedom of\n    >association outweighs the rights of their job applicants to\n    >an equal opportunity. They should be free to hire whomever\n    >they choose, using whatever criteria they choose, without any\n    >government intervention at all.\n    >\n    >Similarly, if a family wishes to rent out a bedroom in their\n    >home, or a garage apartment, or something similar, then their\n    >right to freedom of association outweighs the rights of their\n    >prospective tenants to an equal opportunity.\n    >\n    >If, on the other hand, IBM, a multi-national corporation with\n    >275,000 employees, publicly owned, and operated by a board of\n    >directors, wishes to hire additional employees, then whose\n    >freedom of association are we protecting? The board of\n    >directors? The other employees? The owners of the stock? In\n    >this case, the applicant's right to an equal opportunity\n    >outweighs the right to freedom of association, and we, as a\n    >society, can ask IBM to use only those criteria which are\n    >relevant to the specific task.\n\nWhy? Says who? Why can mon & pop have FOA, but IBM be forced, and force is\nthe correct word here, to have REO? As purchase of IBM is voluntary, then\nthere are very well defined procedures on how IBM chooses to do some things\nand chooses to do other things. Why not let those same procedures work for\nemployment policies?\n\n\n    >Similarly, if a landlord owns a number of apartment buildings\n    >in which he does not live, and which are managed by an\n    >independent management agency, then whose freedom of\n    >association are we protecting? If the owner does not live in\n    >his buildings and has no contact with his tenants, then the\n    >prospective tenant's right to an equal opportunity outweighs\n    >the right to freedom of association, and we, as a society,\n    >can ask the owner to use only those criteria which are\n    >relevant to \"good\" tenants. (I've put \"good\" in quotation\n    >marks because I really don't want to be drawn off into the\n    >side issue of what constitutes a good tenant.)\n\nWhy does this tenant have an \"option\" (I won't call it a right) to destroy\nthe FOA of the landlord? If the landlord and the tenant can't agree, then they\nboth can cease from using each other's property.\n\nSuddenly, by arm waving, by magic, a landlord does not have FOA. And on what\nbasis does the FOA of the landlord \"disappear\"?\n\nIt seems that vague terms like \"no contact with tenants\" suffice.\n\nWell, I think FOA is one our most important rightts (in the top 2-3), and by\ngolly, if the State is going to make it suffer, I sure would like to see the\nheinous crime that justifies the removal of this right.\n\nI don't think \"no contact\" with the tenats is even a crime, much less something\nthat should cause severe interference with important rights.\n\n    >I suspect that the majority of the people in this country\n    >agree with my position on these extreme cases, particularly\n    >if they are presented in this manner. I don't know if Mr.\n    >Ronzone or Mr. Cramer would agree--I suspect not. In any\n    >case, additional problems arise when we try to apply\n    >guidelines for the middle ground. What if the company has 10\n    >employees, or 100, or 1000? Where do we draw the line between\n    >protecting the right to freedom of association and protecting\n    >the right to an equal opportunity?\n\nRights are not defined by majority\/mob choice. FOA is an absolute. REO\nis a fancy name for thuggery, for racism, and coercion.\n\n    >The difficulty is that any line we draw will, of necessity,\n    >be artificial. And any legislation resulting will be flawed.\n    >In the past, the government has usually tried to pass laws\n    >which referred to the number of employees hired by the\n    >company--e.g., any company with more than xxx employees was\n    >affected by the law. Those with fewer were unaffected.\n\nOf course it would be. You dimly see that the line must be artifiacial, because\nFOA is the only right. Just like a State religion -- you can't jsutify that\neither.\n\n    >Generally, I believe that if we do not have any regulations\n    >affecting these rights, then the right to freedom of\n    >association will be stronger. On the other hand, many of the\n    >regulations protect the right to an equal opportunity too\n    >much, weakening the right to freedom of association.\n    >\n    >I don't believe there is a satisfactory solution which will\n    >please everybody. A solution that I came up with is to use\n    >publicly owned vs. privately owned as the dividing line. If\n    >the company remains privately owned, then the owners should\n    >be free to do whatever they want with their company. If the\n    >company becomes publicly owned, then the public has a right\n    >to ask the company to submit to additional regulation.\n\nWhy? I assume that when you say \"publicly owned\", you are talking about those\nquasi-State companys that do NOT have shareholders.\n\nThe companies on the Fortune 500, for example, are all privately owned. They\ncan give you a list of all of their owners. They have no \"anonymous\",\nunknown to them, owners.\n\n\n    >By the way, the above analysis is based on the assumption\n    >that the right to freedom of association and the right to an\n    >equal opportunity are both fundamental human rights of equal\n    >importance. Since this is entirely a matter of faith, not\n    >subject to any \"proof\", I do not choose to even try to\n    >establish this. You either accept it or you don't.\n    >\n    >Any comments?\n\nFOA can be derived by any two rational people, on a basis that neither has\nevil, malicious, or murderous intent towards the others.\n\nIn short, agreement is mutual, or not at all.\n\nYour REO on the other hand, lives only by accepting coercion, the gun, into\nthe situation. And that is self-destructive of the whole argument, because it\nis based only on might makes right. Sort of like saying, \"nobody has a right\nto live\", whereupon I whip out a gun and shoot you dead -- end of argument.\n\n\n-- \nThere are actually people that STILL believe Love Canal was some kind of\nenvironmental disaster. Weird, eh?","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nYou know, you have a point here, but don't stop with African Americans...\nWhen I was in high school in the early 1980s, on various occasions I had\nknives pulled on me, had friends who were stabbed, and I was beaten up\nrepeatedly by those that couldn't accept me as different.  And don't\nlet the teachers off the hook either.  On many many occasions, there\nwere teachers that either resented me or were too scared out of their\nwits by the bullies to even stop the people who attacked me and they\nwould just watch quietly...  All of this was in a nice white middle\nclass high school.  In fact, we were so nice and white that we made\nsure that the one black kid in my class was unable to go to the prom\nwith his white girlfriend...  This isn't a race thing, it's the\nway public schools seem to be run...\n\nI'd hate to be in high school right now...  At least I didn't have\nto deal with guns, just the roving psycho-drug-dorks and the jocks-\nwithout-a-future-but-with-plenty-of-testosterone...\n\nI'd separate everyone who wants to learn from these assholes...  But hey,\nthe valuelessness of learning and glorification of jocks is an American\ntradition, you think anything is going to change?  If you have kids,\ntake 'em out of the public school system and educate them yourself...\nThat's what I'll do if I ever have them...  I wouldn't wish what I went\nthrough upon any kid...  Maybe on some of their parents though...","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nPerhaps you've been under a rock since, say, the turn of the century. How\nin the #$^& is one man supposed to review every single freaking\ngovernmental action, every day? That's why we have an executive branch. HE\nreviewed the plan and said \"go,\" but he wasn't the architect and he wasn't\nthere, bullhorn in hand, implementing it. Yes, he was responsible in the\nsense that he was briefed. So what! Shit happens. That sounds like a\ncallous way to dismiss the deaths of 90+ people, but I can't understand why\npeople get so bent about the accidental death\/suicide (which is it? could\ntake months...) of some total fucking sociopath\/child molester and his\ncrazed followers while opposing U.S. intervention in Bosnia. Just like\nBilly boy said. I think some of you people have too much time on your\nhands, and screwed up priorities.\n\nJust my HO...","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\tReligious fanaticism?","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nAs I recall, it is a statistical anomaly because of the sample involved in the studies.\nI am certain that if it were true the Europeans would be cutting kids right & left.\n\n\n\nI think alot do it blindly because \"Dad\" had it done.  But there are many\nwho get bamboozled into it with the bogus cancer thing.  Awhile back some\nquack told a friend of mine that it would help prevent AIDS.\n\nYeah...Right! (Sarchasm)\n\n\nOh YEAH ?\n\nScene: Navy boot camp\n\nDI:\t\t\"Son, you smel awful! Dont you ever clean that thing?\"\nRecruit:\t\"No Sir !\"\nDI:\t\t\"Why the hell NOT!\"\nRecruit:\t\"Your not sposed to touch down there?\"\nDI:\t\t\"Why ?\"\nRecruit:\t\"Cause thats the eye of god down there, an' your not s'posed to touch it...\"\n\nThis did not happen 40 years ago, it happened 2 years ago.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nFor one week, she probably wants to see how you react to the diet. If it\nchanges anything. \n\nYou can live on the diet but you need to up your calories. Where before you\nhad a pat of butter now you need a medium apple (probably microwave\ncooked).  Smaller meals but more of them. Not terrific amounts of meat, it's\nhard to digest anyway. \n\nFor comfort and to make the carbohydrate meal \"last\" longer eat pasta or\nrice which give their calories up slowly rather than bread or corn. Maybe\nsmaller meals as you may be getting less room in the stomach area. Is the\nbaby still coming up. Is it starting to push or rub under your ribs? How\ntight are your clothes. You shouldn't be wearing any clothing that compresses \nyour middle. Be sure not to \"suck in\" your stomach when sitting, again it\nwill put pressure on the digestive tract. \n\nTry laying on your sides, back,\nand stay in reclining positions for the many hours you are being inactive.\nEasier on your legs (circulation) as well. You might try letting the baby\n\"turn\" or at least not be forced under the ribs during the last months.\nWhen you are shortwaisted it's easy for that baby to end up right under the\ndiaphram, especially if you have tight abdominal muscles. If I had my\nsecond one to do over again I think I'd have tried to loosen up since he\ndidn't turn sideways until late and the relief was enormous.\n\n\nMaybe this doctor does have a thing about weight gain in pregnancy or maybe\nshe just nags all her patients this way. Especially if she's young. \nBut this gallbladder\/whatever problem that might be coming up is something\nto be avoided if possible. \n\nNausea, etc. can vary from person to person and with each pregnancy. My\nfirst pregnancy was miserable. During the second I had very little trouble.\nSome articles have said that women with nausea had a statistically better\nchance of carrying their baby. (grain of salt here) \n\nGood luck","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nNow, now, before we get too carried away here....","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"    |                                                                  \n    | > Mary at that time appeared to a girl named Bernadette at       \n    | > Lourdes.  She referred to herself as the Immaculate Conception.\n    | > Since a nine year old would have no way of knowing about the   \n    | > doctrine, the apparition was deemed to be true and it sealed   \n    | > the case for the doctrine.                                     \n    |Bernadette was 14 years old when she had her visions, in 1858,    \n    |four years after the dogma had been officially proclaimed by the  \n    |Pope.                                                             \n    |                                                                  \n    | Yours,                                                           \n    | James Kiefer\n\nI forgot exactly what her age was but I remember clearly\nthat she was born in a family of poverty and she did not\nhave any education, whatsoever, at the age of the apparitions.\nShe suffered from asthma at that age and she and her family were\nliving in a prison cell of some sort.\n\nShe had to ask the 'Lady' several times in her apparitions about \nwhat her name was since her confessor priest asked her to do so.  \nFor several instances, the priest did not get an answer since \nBernadette did not receive any.  One time, after several apparitions\npassed, The Lady finally said, \"I am the Immaculate Conception\".\nSo, Bernadette, was so happy and repeated these words over and\nover in her mind so as not to forget it before she told the\npriest who was asking.  So, when she told the priest, the\npriest was shocked and asked Bernadette, \"Do you know what\nyou are talking about?\".  Bernadette did not know what exactly\nit meant but she was just too happy to have the answer for\nthe priest.  The priest continued with, \"How did you remember\nthis if you do not know?\".  Bernadette answered honestly that\nshe had to repeat it over and over in her mind while on her\nway to the priest...\n\nThe priest knew about the dogma being four years old then.\nBut Bernadette did not know and yet she had the answer which\nthe priest finally observed and took as proof of an authentic\npersonal revelation of Our Lady to Bernadette.\n\n(Note: This Lady of Lourdes shrine has a spring of water which\nour lady requested Bernadette to dig up herself with her\nbare hands in front of pilgrims.  At the start little\nwater flowed but after several years there is more water \nflowing.)","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nThere was a post about something similar a while back.  It seems windows\ndoes *not* take it upon itself to free up any sys. resources an\napplllication is using when that application is done.  That job is left\nentirely to the application.  that is, the application has to clean up\nafter itself when it quits.\n\nAnyone out there know if there is a utility for windows which  will\nclean up sys. resources when an application quits (mother.zip???).\n\npeace,\nMickey","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"REPOST - DUE TO NET PROBLEMS\n\nHi,\n   I have problems with the FDHD on a IICX that EKG reports is ROM\nrevision 376. I had reports that this Mac was having trouble \nformatting disks and by the time I got to it, the FDHD just would\nnot respond although all other functions were fine.\n\nI checked the voltages on the DB19 external drive connector and pin\n6 showed no volts with 7 and 8 giving 25volts unloaded. The power \nsupply is an Astec and I sent it away for repair.\n\nWith the power supply reinstalled, I now get the following error:\n\nWith the internal FDHD connected, the Mac boots fine but on completion\nof boot cycle an alert displays \"The disk is unreadable - do you\nwant to eject it?\". For every combination of response, the alert \nreappears within approx 2 seconds and this error is continuous. The\nFDHD does spin but there is no head seeking and the FDHD is incapable\nof ejecting the disk. This error sequence occurs regardless of whether\nthere is a floppy in the drive or not. Pin 6 on the DB19 external \nconnector shows 1.2V, pins 7 and 8 show 10.75V.\n\nWith the internal FDHD disconnected, the Mac boots fine and works great \n(MacEKG reports no errors). The DB19 external connector now shows\nno voltage on pin 6 but pins 7 and 8 show 10.75V.\n\nNow, the internal FDHD may be fubar, but I have an apple 800K external\ndrive that gives exactly the same symptoms as the internal drive when\nconnected to either the external DB19 or the internal connector at J16\n(after suitable surgery to the external drive). The voltages at J16 \n(with the internal FDHD disconnected) are as follows:\n\n\tPIN\tVolts\tPIN\tVolts\n\t1\t-\t2\t5\n\t3\t-\t4\t5\n\t5\t-\t6\t5\n\t7\t-\t8\t-\n\t9\t-\t10\t5\n\t11\t-\t12\t-\n\t13\t10.75\t14\t5\n\t15\t10.75\t16\t5\n\t17\t10.75\t18\t-\n\t19\t10.75\t20\t5\n\nThis machine has a SWIM which I don't think EKG tests. I have tested all\ndiodes and pica fuses and can find no problems. Does anybody have any\nideas ?\n\n                        Best wishes,\n                          Woody.\n\n                               Paul Woodman  ","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\tIt does!  I do it to keep people off my ass.  They really back\n\taway when they see canon fire rolling out the back of a Harley.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n   \n     I recently found an excellent source for X-windows programs. I've seen\nquite a few x-windows toolkits up there. The place is:  \n\n                     export.lcs.mit.edu\n\ngo to the contrib directory. Its full of x-windows programs.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I'm looking for an old album or cassette tape. The group is Sanford\/Townsend\nthe name of the album is 'Smoke from a Distant Fire' (I think). This album\ncame out somewhere around  1975-76, and I believe was the first album produced\nby Kenny Loggins after he and Jim Messina broke up.\n\nIf you happen to have this album and are willing to part with it, great. If\nyou don't want to part with it, but are willing to copy it onto cassette I'd\nlove that too.\n\nThanks\n\nJK","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nCool, then we can discuss the increase in radio and TV use, \nthe increase in the use of fossil fuels, the increase in air \ntravel, and consumption of processed bread, and you can\ninstruct us on which of them causes increased depression.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nThen you haven't been paying attention to the arguments levelled against\nthem. They have been, over and over again.  They will be again.\n\n\nHey, what do you think dictionaries are for?  You quite obviously need\none.  A good dictionary gives both, and you well know it.\n\n\nI don't think that data exist on this directly.\n\n\nThat is no problem.  But once again you are defining Zionism as *ONE*\nmovement.  You are implying that it is monolithic.  You *KNOW* this is\nnot and has never been the case.\n\n\nYou don't say it directly.  You implied it, and I showed explicitly\nwhere and how you implied it.  Now you're trying to wriggle out of it.\nWon't wash, and you know it.\n\n\nIt's you, not me, who is running out of arguments.  \n\n\nWhat you said is that \"Judaism is defined according to religious\nstandards.\"  Now this can have several different meanings, and you know\nit.  One of the meanings that it can have is to say that \"Only those who\nare religious are defined as Jews\".  Another is to say that \"Only those\nwho meet the religious definition of a Jew is one.\"  And there are\nothers.  I'm not twisting your words.  I'm trying to make you aware that\nyour words don't mean what you think they do.\n\n\nActually, it doesn't.  And the citizens' rights are exactly THE SAME in\nboth cases, anyway.\n\n\nJewish\n\n\nJewish\n\n\nIt'll depend on what religion is practiced in the house.  The original\nlaw of return would still admit such a person if they were Jewish, if\nmemory serves.\n\n\nNot Jewish.\n\n\n\nThat's valid, as far as I can see.\n\n\nMore than once.  As have others.\n\n\nThe very one you give above.  It is absolutely inconsistent with the\ntwist you put on it.  \n\n\nNo you didn't.  You had to twist the definition of the word 180 degrees\nin order to do so, and everyone else knows it.  I'm not being touchy.\n\n\nBecause what you gave *WAS NOT* an example.  IT WAS an example of how\nthe definition of a word can be twisted around 180 degrees.  \n\n\nOh, so now what are dictionaries for?\n\n\nDuh.  As a scientist, whose technical terms are very often not found in\ncommon dictionaries, I know this.  But when a term is common, like\nhypocrisy, a good dictionary can be regarded as an authoritative source.\n\n\nIt's not nonsense.  When people read what you write, they have to try to\nassociate a meaning to those words.  Dictionaries give the meanings of\nwords, don't they?  Now, I assume that you'd like to have the words you\nuse mean what you'd like them to.  But the fact is, you're using very\ndifferent meanings than are in the dictionary, or you would like the\nreader to assign them new meanings, which they never had.  \n\n\nNot at all.  What I cannot abide is utter bombast when you've been\nproven completely wrong.\n\n\nI never put even one syllable in your mouth.  You have tried to prove\nthis and you failed.  \n\n\nPoppycock.\n\n\nI read what you said.  I did not add anything.  You simply either don't\nknow that the words don't mean what you'd like them to - which cannot be\nthe case now since you've been proven wrong and you quite obviously\ndon't have a defense against the arguments presented, or you're twisting\nthe meanings.  Which is it?\n\n\nHa!  There's nothing resembling fact in what you've said.  I NEVER added\n*ANYTHING* to what you said.\n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I am just beginning to try using the Athena toolkit and am having some problems \ngetting started.  I think that some files are missing on the system, but there is\nthe possibility that they are just in a different directory.  When I try to link\nmy program it can't find XtInitailize, XtRealizeWidget, XtMainLoop, \nXtCreateManagedWidget, or commandWidgetClass.  I've included Intrinsic.h and\nCommand.h.  I also had a problem on compile with XtNcallback but replaced that with\na NULL in order to compile and see if there were any other problems.  I haven't \nused a toolkit before and this is simply an example I got from the manuel.  Can\nsomeone tell me where I might look for these calls, that is, in what file not what\ndirectory they are supposed to be under because the system manager doesn't believe\nin standard directories and generally does things his own way.  (I am using UNIX)\n\nThank you for your assistance.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Since Roger is a Canadian who probably knows nothing about baseball\nI am gonna try to explain it to him in terms of hockey...\n\naccording to his logic...\nI can say that since 1988...Bob Errey is better than Wayne Gretzky\n\nhey...Errey contributed to 2 Cups while good old Wayne has won nothing...\n(I think the Kings should trade Gretzky for Errey....what do you think Roger?)","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"[stuff deleted about Microsoft]\nYou must of read too many OS\/2 advertisements.  \"Crash Protection\" is such\na marketing gimick, it isn't funny..  Out of 4 months of using Windows on my \nnew machine I've only had it crash ONCE, and I don't have a \"run of the mill\"\nconfiguration.\n\nMicrosoft is not a leader in innovation, but they certainly know how to \nbuild a better mousetrap.  Now, what's wrong with that??","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nI hope, I hope, that we can begin to involve ourselves in the issues\nand concerns related to this peace process. We have differing opinions,\ncertainly, on these aspects but it is clear that we all share the hope\nthat \"resolution\" of the tensions and conflict **will** happen.\n\nAs we \"run to the defense\" of our side, there is no need to constantly \ninvolve ourselves in name-calling. All of us are regularly confused by\nthe \"other's\" reactive posting because \"they\" spend most of the post\napplying \"labels\" and presenting slogans than in just presenting their\nhonest views. Then...when we \"react\", we do the same thing.\n-------------=--------------------+-----------------------=-----------\n\nDo you, as I do, agree that this (sort) of \"peace process\" is needed?\nWhat about the particular points mentioned in the article? Is what\nIsrael is (supposedly) going to propose \"good\"? Does it go too far?\nNot far enough?\n\nIf you don't agree that a \"peace process\" is needed, what is?\n\n\n\n \n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I am selling Joe Montana SportsTalk Football '93 for the Genesis for 30 bucksm\nwhich will include shipping. Firt come first some.\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Article #61153 (61302 is last):\nFrom: nstassen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Nicki A Stassen Lantz)\nSubject: HELP: LED connectors for motherboard\nDate: Thu Apr 22 09:02:48 1993\n\n\nI bought a 386DX-40 motherboard for 50$... no documentation at all. Everything\nappears to work, except I'm having trouble getting a few of the LED connectors\nworking. I've looked at the manuals for 4 other motherboards, but the pin\nconfiguration doesn't look anything like what is on this board. Does this\npin arrangement look familiar to anyone out there??? Any hints on where I\ncan find this information?\n\n                 1                 10\n      \"speaker\"  . . . . . . . . . .\n      \"keylock\"  . . . . . . . . . .\n                 11          ^     20\n                       J23   |\n                             |The board came with a jumper vertically across\n                              these two pins.\n\nI can get the power\/keylock to work across pins 11-15, reset across pins 9 and\nShown 82%, press <SPACE> for more, 'q' to quit, or 'h' for help\n                                                                                \n19, but would prefer not to blow something up by further experimentation.\nThe date on the board itself is 6\/92, opti chips.\n\nI would really appreciate any help, and thank you in advance.\n\nN A Stassen Lantz\nEnd of File, Press RETURN to quit\n\nNicji,\nIt would realy realy help if you said what chipset and if the board\nwas an upgradable or not board and how old it and the bios is???\nSam","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I recall reading somewhere that a number of bishops spent  a great\ndeal of  time  debating the topic of \"how many angels could fit on the\ntip of a needle\".\n\n    Does anybody have a reference to this?\n\n    Thanks","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Geico supports (reads gives to police) Laser Radars.  They have been known \nto be very picky.  No sports cars. No radar detectors (although Maryland \ninsurance board over rules this consistantly). No turbos.\n\nBasically it seems if you need to use your insurance ever they don't want \nyou.  They once told me they wouldn't insure me (perfect record) because of \nmy corvette even though it would be insured by another specialty insurance. \n \"We must insure all the cars\".  I think this rep didn't know what she was \ntalking about.\n\nGeico is cheap.  But if you ever file a claim be prepared to be dropped.  I \nthink in most areas two tickets will do it.\n\nGeico will never see a dime from me If I can help it.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Just a quick note on the nwe shape MR2s in the UK.... \n\nWhen they first came out here, there were 3 models. The base model had an \nauto box and engine from the CAMRY 2.0 !!! Well I recentyl found out that this \nmodel is no longer profitable for Toyota and have since scraped it. I've also\nnoticed that auto MR2s have depreciated a lot more than the next model up...","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I've recently re-uploaded to cica the current (v2.8) version of the working \nmodel of MicroCal Origin, a scientific and technical 2D\/3D graphics and data \nanalysis package for Windows 3.x. The working model is 2D only and puts a\npromo message on hardcopies, but is largely identical to the full version.\nSaving Origin files is disabled, but you can save ASCII data sets produced\nwith Origin. It also says it has an expiration date of Sept. 1, 1993.\n\nTry it. You may like it, as I do!\n\nIt's currently at ftp.cica.indiana.edu (129.79.20.17) in the directory\n\/pub\/pc\/win3\/uploads as ORIGIN2.ZIP. The file ORIGIN.ZIP is, unfortunately,\nincomplete (SORRY 'BOUT THAT!).","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nIt is kind of absurd, isn't it?  Some players even want more distortion,\nespecially the Hendrix fans :-)  But there are a lot of them out there\nthat can only afford the amp, or who like playing music without distortion.\nThen there are your hard-core Hendirx fans that want particular *types*\nof distortion, i.e., they make it, not their amps.\n\n\n\nI didn't see a thing about waste-heat from Babbage, and haven't seen one\nof those mechanical TV's in a while, so it's anybodie's guess :-)\n\n-Tommy Mac\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTom McWilliams 517-355-2178 wk   \\ They communicated with the communists,\n18084tm@ibm.cl.msu.edu 336-9591 hm \\ and pacified the pacifists. -TimBuk3","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"[...]\n\n   That brings up an interesting question.  If this interpretation is\ncorrect, how would these people be getting into Heaven before Jesus\nopened the gates of Heaven?","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I have a IIsi & a portrait display (and I love it).  I'm using the\nbuilt-in video support, so its slow and deals with 16 colors\/grays.\nSo, I'm wondering:  if I get a video card, how much does this tend to\nspeed up things and will I be able to get more than 4bits?  Oh, I have\nCombiCache w\/FPU.  Does this limit my choices of video cards?\n\nThanks","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Some of the messages here seem to reflect the view that the government is\nlistening in on everything and one will have to hide one's clipper messages\nsomehow if non-escrowed crypto goes away.\n\nA little perspective might be in order.\n\nThe number of court ordered wire taps is pretty low. Law enforcement has to\npresent pretty good evidence to get even that limited number of\nauthorizations.\n\nThus the overwhelming majority of conversations are neither tapped nor\nrecorded by the government, and for that to happen they have to:\na) Have a pretty good reason, with evidence;\nb) Use this sparingly on highest priority \"pretty good reasons.\"\n\nThough the system may be imperfect, it is a long way from the horror stories\nsome here seem to believe or anticipate.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nIN ORDER to get the 15 nS response time you need, you are better off \ngoing to an ECL slicer which can run off a single +5 or -5.2 V supply, \nyou just need to bias or do some level shifting perhaps to get it in the \nrange. Check out the ECL 10K books for a simple cheap solution.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n8 MB SIMMs do not have to be composite SIMMs, although many (most?) 16 MB \nSIMMs are.  72-pin SIMMs allow two memory banks per SIMM, thus permitting \nthe use of 4 Mb DRAM devices (the same ones used on 4 MB SIMMs) to be used \nfor two 4 MB banks on one SIMM.  I can't imagine that it would be cheaper \nto build an 8 MB SIMM using 1 Mb DRAMs as the 4 Mb parts reached (and \nexceeded) bit for bit price parity with the 1 Mb parts some time ago.  \nIt's probably possible to build a single-bank 8 MB SIMM using 4 Mb parts - \nthis could cause problems in a Q800.  I'm not sure why you'd want to do \nthis, though, as a dual-bank 8 MB SIMM would be cheaper to build than a \nsingle-bank composite one.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\tVery narrow.  Very, very narrow.  If you'll recall, I was the\nnut that advocated the possibility of tactical nukes being militia\nweapons in certain situations.  How can you possibly define what is a\nweapon and what isn't is only the start of this.\n\n\n\n\tAnd you've just described any civilian reactor because your\ndefinition fails to note what energy is being considered.  Reactors\nblow with a steam explosion, but the majority of energy still comes\nfrom fission or fusion because that is what heated the coolant.  See\nwhat a can of worms this is?  Last I heard, Ft. Calhoun station just\nnorth of Omaha, Nebraska wasn't considered a weapon.  Given the\nsodium-cooled breeder designs on the blocks now, I can easily envision\nreactors being household appliances in under twenty years.  With the\nPRISM design, there is *no* operator input needed on the reactor\nitself, and it is not unreasonable to assume the secondary side can\nbe made equally as automatic in the future.  So your definition is\nflawed in a few respects already.\n\n\n\tTyphoid Mary would likely fit this bill if she sneezed.  If\nyou don't mind extrapolation, any HIV-positive person also fits this\nbill if they interact with others in a way that stands any chance of\nspreading the virus.  Finally, that manure pile I mention below fits\nthis definition, as does, say, releasing a pet rattlesnake to the wild.\n\n\n\tAnd I can show where any such gas has other uses.  For example,\nperhaps we would like to rid the hay field of gophers.  Calcium Carbide\nis a rock that dissolves in water to produce aceteylne gas.  It can\nbe used for welding, in miners lamps, for gassing gophers, or for\nmaking carbide bombs and doing some illicit fishing.  Toss some in a\ntoilet and leave a lighted cigarette on the seat and you'll see that\nit can also be a weapon, just like any other flammable substance.\nSo, now my miners lamps won't work, I can't do any welding, and I\nstill have those pesky gophers.\n\n\n\tThe basis for, but I'm sure you see that the problem is not\nin writing a law, it is in writing a law that cannot be abused and\nextended beyond the point where it does any good.\n\n\n\n\tIt is under your proposed law.  So is a silage pit if there\nis run-off.  So are underground fuel tanks.\n\n\n\n\tIt meets all the criterion of a weapon.  It is an instrument that\ncan be used for fighting, even though that is not its intended purpose,\nand despite there being better weapons around.  Given that the aquifers\nsupply a significant part of the country with drinking water, mass\ndestruction is rather a given.\n\n\tIt's not that certain weapons aren't something I'd rather not\nsee a lot of people having.  The problem is that it is nearly\nimpossible to write a law such that it cannot be abused upon some\npretext or another.  The looser your definition, the more ripe for\nabuse that law is.  Furthermore, if you get specific then the old\nstandby is to insert a clause allowing the list of banned things to\nbe added to, generally without going through the hassles of another\nvote and public reading of the law.  Again, ripe for abuse.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nNo, this is not true. the CNN pictures show two sites clearly and a third is\nbarely distinguished. \n\nIf you have a tape you should note that there are two towers at either end\nof the building, a big one and a little one. What appears to be merely a \nlong shot of the big tower with the tank in front is in fact the little\ntower. You can tell beacuse the flag in the foreground switches sides from the\nright of the picture to the left.\n\nThe third site is visible as the flames clearly come from a point obscured by\nthe small tower. You need a tape and a good slow motion video to see this.\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"best way to reduce risk when operating a vehicle is being able to avoid\nhazards and, for that reason my preferred vehicle is a motorcycle.  When I do\nuse a four wheeler my primary reasons are: it will keep me dry, it will keep\nme warm, or it will carry more cargo.  If the four wheeler has as much\ncollision protection as the average motorcycle, then it has enough form me.\n\nHow do you define safe?  One definition of safe is without risk.  Is\n\n\n-- \nChas                         DoD #7769","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Hello there!\n\nA week ago a guy asked what a .SCO file was - well I researched a bit and foundout that it is just another RIX file. .SCI files are 320x200 files and .SCO files are 1024x768 files! alle the other formats (800x600, 640x480...) are also called something like .SC(character).","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"While watching the Penguins\/Devils game last night, I saw the \"slash\" that\nBarrasso took on the neck.  This brought to mind the goaltender who had his\njugular vein cut by a skate.  I think he was a Sabre, but I'm not positive.\nDoes anyone remember\/know his name?  What has happened to him since?  What\nabout the player whose skate cut the goalie?  Name?  Info?  Has this ever\nhappened before in a hockey game?   \n\nThanks,","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nXt(App)AddTimeout doesn't work in xterm, because, despite appearances \nto the contrary, xterm is not really an Xt based application.  \"Other\nsources\" like timeouts and inputs are never checked in xterm's main\nloop. So don't be surprised when you try this and it doesn't work.\n\n--","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nI don't know the first thing about yeast infections but I am a scientist.\nNo scientist would take your statement --- \"no convincing empirical evidence\nto support the existence of systemic yeast syndrome\" --- to tell you\nanything except an absence of data on the question.  Noring has pointed out\nthe catch-22 that if the \"crazy\" theory were true, you probably couldn't\nfind any direct evidence of it --- that you couldn't observe those yeastie\nbeasties with present methods even if they were there.  Noring and the\nfellow from Oklahoma (sorry, forgot your name) have also suggested one set\nof anecdotal evidence in favor based on their personal experiences ---\nnamely, that when people with certain conditions are given anti-fungals,\nmany of them appear to get better.  \n\nSo, if you have any evidence *against* the hypothesis --- for example,\ncontrolled double-blind studies showing that the anti-fungals don't do any\nbetter than sugar water --- then let's hear it.  If you don't, then what we\nhave is anecdotal and uncontrolled evidence on one side, and abject\ndisbelief on the other.  In which case, please, there is no point in yelling\nback and forth at each other any longer since neither side has any\nconvincing evidence either positive or negative.  \n\nAnd I understand that your abject disbelief is based on the existence of\npeople who may get famous or make money applying the diagnosis to everything\nin sight, making wild claims with no evidence, and always refusing to do\ncontrolled studies.  But that has absolutely no bearing on the apparently\nsincere experiences of the people on the net observing anti-fungals working\non themselves and other people in certain specific cases.  There are also\nquacks who sell oral superoxide dismutase, in spite of the fact that it's\ncompletely broken down in the guts, but this doesn't change the genuine\nscientific knowledge about the role of superoxide dismutase in fighting\noxidative damage.  Same thing.  Just cause there are candida quacks, that\ndoesn't establish evidence against the candida hypothesis.  If there's some\nother reason (besides the quacks), if only anecdotal, to think it could be\ntrue, then that is what has to be considered, that is what the net people\nhave been talking about.\n\nBut again, there is no point in arguing about it.  There is anecdotal\nevidence, and there is no convincing evidence, and there are also some\ncandida quacks out there, I hope everyone can agree on all of that.  Thus,\nit appears to me the main question now is whether the proponents can\nmarshall enough anecdotal evidence in a convincing and documented enough\nmanner to make a good case for carrying out a good controlled double-blind\nstudy of antifungals (or else, forget convincing anybody else to carry out\nthe test, just carry it out themselves!) --- and also, whether they can\nadequately define the patient population or symptoms on which such a study\nshould be carried out to provide a fair test of the hypothesis.\n\nKen","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n<speaking of CPU fans>\n\n\nDo these CPU Fans also have heat sinks?  Do you recommend using both\non the same chip (i.e. heat sink sandwiched between CPU and Fan)?\n\nIf we are just talking about a CPU Fan blowing directly on the CPU chip,\nI can't see how \"heat sink grease\" is necessary (or even desireable).\n-- \n\n=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"They looked unto him, and were lightened:\n\tand their faces were not ashamed.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"PC GAMES FOR SALE......\nBoth Games in original package and original docs.\n\nJordan In Flight\t$30 +S&H\nTest Drive 3 \t\t$15 + S&H\n\nOr OBO\n\nContact Bob at...","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nDoes the phrase \"Innocent until proven guilty\" have ANY meaning anymore?\n\n\n--\njmd@handheld.com","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n   If it's forbidden to inform someone of a police wiretap on their phone, then\nis it legal to work privtely as a \"sweeper,\" and report to the person you\nwork for whether you found a bug?\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nI don't think MS has anything to brag about when it comes to following\nDPMI. But then, consistency is the hobgoblin, etc., I suppose.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I designed and built hardware in 1988 that would output a logic level (from\na 567 tone detector) upon detecting a 500 microwatt LED 28 feet away.\nUsed a Motorola MRD360, biased linearly  in a DC-feedback loop to servo out\nvariations in sunlight (and 60Hz from lights). Used no lenses.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nYou should read the history. It was Hoover who stopped Nixon's COINTELPRO\ndead in its tracks because he said it was unconstitutional. They tried to\nget around him every way they could.\n\nDespite other things he may have done, for this alone, Hoover saved the\nConstitution.\n\nDavid\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nWell, you can just about set your watch by Honda releasing new models every\n4 years and an upgrade half way through the cars life. The local acura\ndealership tells me that the new Integra will be out very soon, i.e. May\/June.\n\nIts hard to find specific details as the Integra has been deleted from\nmost of the rest of the world - I have seen them in Canada and Australia\nas well as the U.S. but it was discontinued after the first generation\nin Europe. Normally you can see new Japanese models appear in Europe\nor Japan first and extrapolate from there. C+D reported that the engine\nwould be a carryover I think.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nGet ghostscript and ghostview.  Ghostview is a postscript previewer\nthat uses ghostscript.\n\nFrom the ghostview README:\n\n\n\n    Ghostview -- An X11 user interface for ghostscript.\n\nGhostview is full function user interface for ghostscript 2.4.\n\nBrief list of features:\n  - Ghostview parses any known version of Adobe's Document Structuring\n    Conventions.\n  - Page size is automatically determined from the Document Structuring\n    Comments.  The user is able to override the values from the comments.\n  - Window size is set to the bounding box for Encapsulated PostScript figures.\n  - Default page size is Letter and can be changed via Xresources or\n    application defaults file to A4 (or any other valid size) for our\n    European friends.\n  - Scrollbars appear when necessary.\n  - Page orientation is automatically determined from the Document Structuring\n    Comments.  The user is able to override the values from the comments.\n  - Ability to view at 4 orientations: Portrait, Landscape, Upside-down,\n    and Seascape (for those who rotate landscape the other direction).\n  - Ability to preview in any supported visual.  (Can preview in gray-scale \n    or color on a Color monitor.)\n  - Ability to mark pages for printing, or saving.  (Good for people that\n    printed a 100 page document and lost page 59 due to a printer jam.)\n  - Can popup zoom windows at printer resolution\n    (1 display dot = 1 printer dot).\n\n    The Ghostview distribution includes a Ghostview Widget that people\n    are encouraged to use in other programs.\n\n    Ghostview-1.3 is available via anonymous ftp from:\n        prep.ai.mit.edu:\/pub\/gnu\/ghostview-1.3.tar.Z\n        appenzell.cs.wisc.edu:\/pub\/ghostview-1.3.tar.Z\n\n\nFrom the ghostscript README:\n\n*****************************************************\n* This file describes version 2.4.1 of Ghostscript. *\n*****************************************************\n\n********\n******** An overview of Ghostscript ********\n********\n\nGhostscript is the name of a set of software that provides:\n\n        - An interpreter for the Ghostscript language, which very\nclosely resembles the PostScript (TM) language; and\n\n        - A set of C procedures (the Ghostscript library) that\nimplement the graphics capabilities that appear as primitive\noperations in the Ghostscript language.\n\nThe Ghostscript language interpreter and library are written entirely\nin C, with some assembly-language accelerators for MS-DOS platforms.\nCurrently, Ghostscript is known to run on the following platform\nfamilies:\n\n        - IBM PC and compatibles with EGA, VGA, SuperVGA, or compatible\n          graphics under MS-DOS 3.1, 3.3, or 5.0;\n\n        - A wide variety of Unix systems using X Windows version 11,\n          release 3, 4, and 5, including Sun-3, Sun-4, Sun-386i,\n          Sun SPARCStation 1; generic 80386 machines running 386\/ix;\n          H-P 9000\/300 and 9000\/800; DECStation 2100 and 3100; VAX\n          running Ultrix; Sequent Symmetry; Convex C1 and C2;\n          Tektronix 4300; SGI Iris Indigo;\n\n        - Sun workstations (Sun-3, SPARC, Sun-386i) running SunView;\n\n        - VAX, VMS with X11R3\/4\/5, gcc and DEC C compiler (DEC C compiler\n          version 3.1 or later is required).\n\n\n(Get ghostscript from the same ftp site you get ghostview.)\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"    >Clayton, babe, please define the word `molest`. Are you using\n    >a legal term or a proper dictionary term? Molest, as far as I\n    >can remember, means `to do damage to person(s)`. My mate,\n    >Mike, was lured into a woman's parlour when he was 14. Is\n    >that molestation? A number of my friends (straight) lost\n    >their virginity before that. Were they 'molested'? They told\n    >me that they thoroughly enjoyed the experience. I see no\n    >damage.\n    >\n    >Please stop pushing your objective morality on others. If you\n    >push, people won't fall over and say 'Ye gads, you're\n    >right!', they'll just push back.\n    >\n    >Have you signed up for that logic course yet?\n\nYep -- and the child that \"Tree Frog Johnson\" adbucted for 6 months reportedly\n\"enjoyed\" her experiences as well. They trained her using food. As an FBI\nagent reported (on his disciplinary action for beating up \"Tree Frog\") \"when\nyou see a 2&1\/2 year old baby cheerfully tell you she wants a peanut butter\nsandwich and she'll suck your pee-pee, you lose control\".\n\nYou are quite sick.\n\n\n-- \nThere are actually people that STILL believe Love Canal was some kind of\nenvironmental disaster. Weird, eh?","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nGee, they lost to St. Louis twice this year. Maybe you should have your\neyes checked. 8^)\n\n\nGo Blues....the Rodney Dangerfield team....They get no respect....except\nin Chicago mabee...","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nHere's the story:\n\n(1)  The IIsi *cannot* supply a VGA output.  However...\n\n(2) Some VGA-type monitors can adequately deal with the video signal\nthe Mac uses to drive the Apple 13 or 14 inch \"high resolution color\ndisplay\"---i.e., Apple's own 640x480 mode.\n\nSo, if you wish to hook one of these monitors up to your IIsi, you\nneed (a) an adapter that converts from the Mac DB-15 connector to the\nVGA-style high density DB-15 connector, *but* tells the Mac to use\nit's own 640x480 mode, not the VGA 640x480 mode, and (b) a VGA monitor\nthat can deal with the higher bandwidth of the Mac 640x480 mode over\nthe VGA 640x480 mode (which as I stated in (1) above, the IIsi cannot\nproduce).\n\nAs far as (a) above is concerned, contact\n\n James Engineering, Inc.\n 6329 Fairmount Ave.\n El Cerrito, CA  94530\n 510-525-7350\n FAX: 510-525-5740\n\nThey can probably get you the right adapter.  Remember: you do *not*\nwant the run-of-the-mill Mac-to-VGA adapter, because it will try to\nhave your IIsi produce the VGA mode, which it cannot (the computer\nwill just fail to produce any video signal at all).  Instead, you want\nan adapter that connects between the Mac-style and VGA-style\nconnectors, but tells the Mac to use the Apple 640x480 mode.  Sorry\nfor the poor terminology available for describing this distinction.\n\nAs far as (b) is concerned, make sure to get a monitor that can deal\nwith a horizontal bandwidth of 35 KHz and a vertical retrace rate of\n67 Hz.  These are the spec's of Apple's 640x480 mode.  For comparison,\nthe VGA-standard 640x480 mode uses a 31.5 KHz horizontal bandwidth and\na 60 Hz. vertical retrace rate.\n\nThe monitor will probably need to have auto-synch'ing capability, as\nthe Apple mode you'll be using isn't one of the set of standard modes\nin the PC compatible world.\n\nGood luck!\n\n\t-Fred Martin\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI downloaded these files a couple of days ago and they appeared to be\nincompatible with this particular card. None of the SVGA drivers worked.\nThey're probably for the newer 8900 and 9000 series.\n\n\tJM","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI have the same question for any tools for the 6502 derivative processor\nthe 65C816 processor (designed by Western Design Center).\n\nThanks,\nOscar.\n<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>\n Oscar R. Mitchell\n  IBM Advanced Workstations and Systems Division\n   RISC System\/6000(tm) - Future Systems Hardware Architecture and Design Group\n   Mail Stop: ZIP 9461\n   11400 Burnet Road\n   Austin, Texas   78758                               USA Phone: (512)823-0000\n   IBM Tieline:  678-8513                              USA \"FAX\": (512)838-8561\n\n   IBM VNet: OSCAR at AUSVM6\n   IBM InterNet: oscar@oscar.austin.ibm.com\n\n     USA InterNet: oscar@austin.ibm.com\n\n#include <standard.disclaimer>   \/* I DO NOT speak for IBM, only for MYSELF *\/\n<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nWell pat for once I agree with you and I like your first idea that you had.\nIT probably is the gamma ray signature of the warp transitions of interstellar\nspacecraft! :)\n\nWell it makes as much sense as some things. I was at the first Gamma Ray\nBurst conference here at UAH and had great fun watching the discomfiture\nof many of the Gamma Ray scientists. Much scruitiny was given to the\ndata reductions. I remember one person in particular who passionately declared\nthat the data was completely wrong as there were no explanation for the\nphenomena of the smooth sky distribution. (heck it even shoots down the\nwarp transition theory :(. The next conference is soon and I will endeavour\nto keep in touch with this fun subject.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n*Everything* in Louisiana is related to liquor:  eating, sleeping, walking,\ntalking, church, state, life, death, and everything in between.\n\nPlus the food is good, too.\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"The subject line says it all really, I'm looking for a PD application\nwhich will just handle the displaying of 3D data sets (images) in\ncross section, or any pointers to code which will aid in the development\nof such a system.\n\n  Thanks in advance\n\n\tKeith Marlow\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"(Book Review):\n          \n          \n          \"THE UNIVERSE OF MOTION\", by Dewey B. Larson, 1984, North \n          Pacific Publishers, Portland, Oregon, 456 pages, indexed, \n          hardcover. \n          \n\n               \"THE UNIVERSE OF MOTION\" contains FINAL SOLUTIONS to \n          most ALL astrophysical mysteries. \n          \n               This book is Volume III of a revised and enlarged \n          edition of \"THE STRUCTURE OF THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE\", 1959.  \n          Volume I is \"NOTHING BUT MOTION\" (1979), and Volume II is \n          \"THE BASIC PROPERTIES OF MATTER\" (1988). \n          \n               Most books and journal articles on the subject of \n          astrophysics are bristling with integrals, partial \n          differentials, and other FANCY MATHEMATICS.  In this book, by \n          contrast, mathematics is conspicuous by its absence, except \n          for some relatively simple formulas imbedded in the text.  \n          Larson emphasizes CONCEPTS and declares that mathematical \n          agreement with a theory does NOT guarantee its conceptual \n          validity. \n          \n               Dewey B. Larson was a retired engineer with a Bachelor \n          of Science Degree in Engineering Science from Oregon State \n          University.  He developed the Theory described in his books \n          while trying to find a way to MATHEMATICALLY CALCULATE the \n          properties of chemical compounds based ONLY on the elements \n          they contain. \n          \n               \"THE UNIVERSE OF MOTION\" describes the astrophysical \n          portions of Larson's CONSISTENT, INTEGRATED, COMPREHENSIVE, \n          GENERAL UNIFIED Theory of the physical universe, a kind of \n          \"grand unified field theory\" that orthodox physicists and \n          astro-physicists CLAIM to be looking for.  It is built on two \n          postulates about the physical and mathematical nature of \n          space and time: \n          \n               (1) The physical universe is composed ENTIRELY of ONE \n          component, MOTION, existing in THREE dimensions, in DISCRETE \n          units, and with two RECIPROCAL aspects, SPACE and TIME. \n          \n               (2) The physical universe conforms to the relations of \n          ORDINARY COMMUTATIVE mathematics, its primary magnitudes are \n          ABSOLUTE, and its geometry is EUCLIDEAN. \n          \n               From these two postulates, Larson was able to build a \n          COMPLETE theoretical universe, from photons and subatomic \n          particles to the giant elliptical galaxies, by combining the \n          concept of INWARD AND OUTWARD SCALAR MOTIONS with \n          translational, vibrational, rotational, and rotational-\n          vibrational motions.  At each step in the development, he was \n          able to match parts of his theoretical universe with \n          corresponding parts in the real physical universe, including \n          EVEN THINGS NOT YET DISCOVERED.  For example, in his 1959 \n          book, he first predicted the existence of EXPLODING GALAXIES, \n          several years BEFORE astronomers started finding them.  They \n          are a NECESSARY CONSEQUENCE of his comprehensive Theory.  And \n          when quasars were discovered, he had a related explanation \n          ready for those also. \n          \n               As a result of his theory, which he called \"THE \n          RECIPROCAL SYSTEM\", Larson TOTALLY REJECTED many of the \n          sacred doctrines of orthodox physicists and astrophysicists, \n          including black holes, neutron stars, degenerate matter, \n          quantum wave mechanics (as applied to atomic structure), \n          \"nuclear\" physics, general relativity, relativistic mass \n          increases, relativistic Doppler shifts, nuclear fusion in \n          stars, and the big bang, all of which he considered to be \n          nothing more than MATHEMATICAL FANTASIES.  He was very \n          critical of the AD HOC assumptions, uncertainty principles, \n          solutions in principle, \"no other way\" declarations, etc., \n          used to maintain them. \n          \n               \"THE UNIVERSE OF MOTION\" is divided into 31 chapters.  \n          It begins with a description of how galaxies are built from \n          the gravitational attraction between globular star clusters, \n          which are formed from intergalactic gas and dust clouds that \n          accumulate from the decay products of cosmic rays coming in \n          from the ANTI-MATTER HALF of the physical universe.  (Galaxy \n          formation from the MYTHICAL \"big bang\" is a big mystery to \n          orthodox astronomers.)  He then goes on to describe life \n          cycles of stars and how binary and multiple star systems and \n          solar systems result from Type I supernova explosions of \n          SINGLE stars. \n          \n               Several chapters are devoted to quasars which, according \n          to Larson, are densely-packed clusters of stars that have \n          been ejected from the central bulges of exploding galaxies \n          and are actually traveling FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT \n          (although most of that speed is AWAY FROM US IN TIME). \n          \n               Astronomers and astrophysicists who run up against \n          observations that contradict their theories would find \n          Larson's explanations quite valuable if considered with an \n          OPEN MIND.  For example, they used to believe that GAMMA RAY \n          BURSTS originated from pulsars, which exist primarily in the \n          plane or central bulge of our galaxy.  But the new gamma ray \n          telescope in earth orbit observed that the bursts come from \n          ALL DIRECTIONS UNIFORMLY and do NOT correspond with any \n          visible objects, (except for a few cases of directional \n          coincidence).  Larson's explanation is that the gamma ray \n          bursts originate from SUPERNOVA EXPLOSIONS in the ANTI-MATTER \n          HALF of the physical universe, which Larson calls the \"cosmic \n          sector\".  Because the anti-matter universe exists in a \n          RECIPROCAL RELATION to our material universe, with the speed \n          of light as the BOUNDARY between them, and has THREE \n          dimensions of time and ONLY ONE dimension of space, the \n          bursts can pop into our material universe ANYWHERE seemingly \n          at random. \n          \n               Larson heavily quotes or paraphrases statements from \n          books, journal articles, and leading physicists and \n          astronomers.  In this book, 351 of them are superscripted \n          with numbers identifying entries in the reference list at the \n          end of the book.  For example, a quote from the book \n          \"Astronomy: The Cosmic Journey\", by William K. Hartmann, \n          says, \"Our hopes of understanding all stars would brighten if \n          we could explain exactly how binary and multiple stars \n          form.... Unfortunately we cannot.\"  Larson's book contains \n          LOGICAL CONSISTENT EXPLANATIONS of such mysteries that are \n          WORTHY OF SERIOUS CONSIDERATION by ALL physicists, \n          astronomers, and astrophysicists. \n\n\n               For more information, answers to your questions, etc., \n          please consult my CITED SOURCES (Larson's BOOKS). \n\n\n               UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this \n          IMPORTANT Book Review is ENCOURAGED. \n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\n  I have bought a new harddisk and want to use it with my old\n  TEAC SD3105 , 100Mb harddisk. Unfortunataly I do not have any \n  documentation with this harddisk. Could someone please tell me\n  how I should set the jumpers for master or slave ?\n\t\t  \n\t\t\t\t       Thanks in advance,\n\t\t\t\t       Robert Tenback.\n\t\t\t\t       <rhtenbac@cs.ruu.nl>","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"What's the difference between a 16550 UART and a 16550A UART? Thanks!\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Did you ever notice that 99% of all the problems are from people\nthat run Windows! Thanks MS...","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nYeah, just like you shouldn't assume that Aryan Nations supports\ngenocide.  Who are they (and you) fooling?","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I need some ECG data , uncompressed,  hopefully in ascii format.\nDon't care what it looks like, this is for a signal processing\nproject.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nFirst and foremost, I honestly do not believe that Jesus was anything\nmore than a man who lived and died two thousand years ago.  I know\nyour Bible provides wonderful stories of the things he said and did,\nbut I simply do not believe that he still exists as an entity that has\nany bearing on this universe or the lives in it, and I similarly do\nnot believe that the god that you worship exists or has ever existed.\n\nPeriod.\n\nI view religion in general and Christianity in specific as a 'cultural\nvirus' that has been passed down from generation to generation because\npeople are often too afraid to think for themselves and claim\nresponsibility for their own fate, so they brainwash themselves and\ntheir children into believing the popular myths, and it goes on from\nthere.  And eventually Christianity becomes a given -- if so many\nother people believe in it, it must be right, no?\n\nI don't believe in any \"life after death\".  I believe that when I die,\nI die, so therefore it's up to me to try to bring meaning and purpose\nto my life in the meantime.  I don't believe that it's a good thing to\nhumble myself and view pride as a sin -- pride, in moderation, is a\nconstructive thing.  I see nothing at all wrong with homosexuality and\nnothing inferior about women, and my priests lost a lot of my trust\nwhen they patronizingly tried to explain the 'faults' of these\nopinions to me.  I don't believe in 'loving everyone', especially\npeople I've never met; while I try to show respect to everyone, my\nlove and admiration is something not easily earned, and I do not feel\nguilty about denying my respect and consideration to someone who has\nabused it.\n\nIf you want me to take your religion the least bit seriously, stop\ntrying to show me how the Bible \"makes sense\".  Start trying to show\nme that this Jesus person is somehow still influencing anyone's life\nhere on Earth.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nI decided to come back and amend this so it quotes me and has added\ncomments...\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nbefore you had a pat of butter, now you need a medium apple (probably microwave\nthe body will make fat out of carbohydrates if it needs them. Third, your\nbody, like most peoples, wasn't bred to live on a high fat, modern diet.\nIf you read texts about ancient and primative people you will read about\nthe luxury of eating fat, how people enjoyed it. This was because it was so\nrare. Even cows didn't put out nearly the amount of butterfat in milk that\nthey do now.  \n\n\n\n\nare pregnant. If you are lucky you can work on getting rid of it after the\nbaby. (It is said that doctors have less gallbadder surgery than the rest\nof the population, a good part of it is that they are willing to do the\ndieting, etc that helps them avoid surgery. Also, I don't think the surgery\nlets a person go back to eating a high fat diet. ) \n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"nope.  4 cylinder.\n\ni wasn't aware that there was another Infiniti with a V-8 besides the Q45.\n\nseveral.  the 740i, 730i, 540i, 530i.  (4.0 liter and 3.0 liter V-8)\n\none or two?  there's at least one V-8 for every platform except\nthe compact (190E).  S-class (400SEL, 500SEL), W124 (400E, 500E),\nand roadster (500SL).\n\nacura doesn't have any V-8 cars at the moment.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nI can't see the need for a single (big? expensive? heavy?) \"mothership\" except\nfor Voyager style flyby missions. A few years ago, I did some calculations on a\n\"Grand Tour\" space probe launched by a Saturn V in 1975-76. At the time,I felt \nthat\nthe idea of a big \"mother ship\" had some merit - the Voyagers had to be rather\nsmall, lightweight craft due to the limitations imposed by using weak Titan\nIII\/Centaur launchers. The concept I examined (and Michael's?) had a lot in\ncommon with the British Interplanetary Society's Daedalus project for sending a\nprobe to Barnard's Star - i.e. a large \"bus\" spacecraft carrying several\nsmaller probes to be dispatched when the ship arrives at its destination.\nThe Saturn V supposedly would have been able to launch a 10-ton payload towards\nJupiter and beyond. The \"bus\" could have included far more powerful\ncameras\/telescopes\/scientific equipment and a heavier\/more powerful power\nsource than the Voyagers as there would be no limitations on weight anymore.\nExtremely important as the Voyagers had to perform most of their measurements\nwithin a couple of weeks before and after planetary encounter, and usually at a\nrelatively great distance.\n---\nThe smaller probes carried aboard might have been based on the \"real\" Voyagers,\nand an even smaller version like the one scheduled for launch towards Pluto in\nthe early 21st century, and would have been released at various points during\nthe mission. The advantages are obvious: the bus would have carried out the\nsame basic Jupiter-Saturn-Uranus-Neptune mission than Voyager 2 did, but in\naddition two \"sub-probes\" could have been relased at Saturn, examining\nthat planet's south polar regions before moving on to Pluto. This would have\nenabled NASA to map both hemispheres of Pluto\/Charon by 1986...and several\nother probes could have examined parts of the Jupiter\/Saturn\/Uranus\/Neptune\nsystems that weren't examined in great detail by the Voyagers due to\ntrajectory-related factors. A small \"swarm\" of camera-equipped miniature space\nprobes released a month before encounter would have been too costly for a \nsmall Voyager-type mission but entirely feasible if launched from a heavy, \nwell-equipped spacecraft. And would we have learned a lot more about the outer\nplanets! The reason why the Grand Tour was cancelled was lack of money, of\ncourse. \n\nMARCU$","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"A rep at the dealer (actually it's a university order center, so\nthey don't have any immediate financial interest), told me that\nthey have been having lots of problems with their Centris 610.\nHe didn't go into details, but mentioned problems with the\nfloppy drive and intermittent problems with printing files.\nIt sounded to me like they were having both hardware problems\nand software compatibility problems with the machine.\n\nHe's not recommending the Centris 610 to anybody; he says to\nconsider a Centris 650 or a IIvx. (Why he would recommend a\nIIvx over an LCIII I don't know, but that's what he said.)\n\nSo, what does the net think? Did the dealer just get one flaky\nmachine, or did Apple send the C610 out the door too early?\nIs your C610 working just great, or is it buggy too?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"FOR SALE!!!!\n\n1) Sony Car Stereo Amplifier (Model XM-2040)\n\tRated Power 20Wx4, into 4 Ohms from 20-20,000Hz @0.5%THD\n\t2 Ohm Stable\n        Short Circuit and Overload Protected\n \nThis is a great little amplifier that I picked up as a demo model at Lechmere\nlast spring, and never got a chance to install. It's been tested, and it \nworks great...a perfect amplifier for adding 4-speaker power to a system, or \nfor powering mids or tweets...whatever. Mounted on a board, complete with a \nRS 15 Amp noise filter, with all connections made to barrier strips for easy \nscrew-type contacts. Lists new in Crutchfield for $129, am asking \n\t\t\t$75 O.B.O complete\n\n\n2) Sony Electronic Crossover (Model XEC-500)\n\tFreq Response 5-100,000 Hz (+0,-3 dB)\n\tS\/N Ratio 105 dB (A wtd.)\n\tHigh Pass X-Over @flat,80,120,180 Hz (12dB\/octave)\n\tLow Pas X-Over @50,80,120,180 Hz (18dB\/octave)\n\t1\/2 DIN size for In-Dash Installation in many cars!\n\nThis to,l is an exceptional unit which I found extremely useful  back in the \ndays when I had a car to put a stereo in. Two sets of RCA-type inputs (F\/R), and Three sets of Outputs (F\/R\/Sub) Each output with seperate level control. \nvariable Low Boost control (+10 dB@40 Hz) for extending low bass, and seperate High and Low pass crossover points make this a great unit for anybody who's \ninterested in building a Sub\/Satellite type system \n\t\n\tUsed with orig. box&Papers $130 O.B.O\n\t \n\nBoth units work flawlessly, and are in excellent shape cosmtically (ie No \nscratches, etc.) Anyone who is interested, please respond to \n\t\n\tcoates@wpi.wpi.edu","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nOuch. I guess I didn't. Sorry. But my comment was just more\n'irony' into the fire.\n\nCheers,\nKent","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Could someone please tell me if the 486SLC and 486SLC2 processors\nIBM is putting in their Thinkpad 700's and other PC's is a REAL\n486 with a math coprocessor or if it is really some Kludge that\nshould not be called a 486 at all?\n\nThanks,\nEric","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n<much deleted>\n\nSounds like a memory conflict problem, which can cause truly weird symptoms \nlike these. Call Dell tech support (or better, post to them on CSERVE if you\nhave an account) and get the memory range(s) used by video RAM on your\nmachine. The block windows from using those ranges with an\nEMMEXCLUDE= statement in the 386Enh section of SYSTEM.INI. You probably\nshould include a statement excluding the same range from EMM386 or whatever\nmemory manager you use in CONFIG.SYS.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"O.K, I am not a computer literate, but what can\/cannot be done with the\nRAM over 16 megs in an ISA machine.\n\nPlease e-mail!\n\nThanks in Advance!","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"[stuff deleted]\n\nThe colormap element of SetWinAttrib must be a legitimate TrueColor\ncolormap. So, use XCreateColormap() with the proper visual and use it\nin SetWinAttrib (and don't forget the mask!).\n\nAnd the inevitable caveat: I usually use widgets, setting the visual\nand colormap resources rather than direct X routines, so I could be\nwrong. But, I think this is the general difficulty.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I just got a Duo230 and a DuoDock, and am quite happy with it all -\nexcept I need to use the dock with \n\ta) two page grey scale monitor (Apple)\n  b) two page color monitor (Apple)\n\nWhat is net wisdom on which vendor\/video card would be preferable?\n\nThanks in advance.\n\n  ---jon---\n\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Am looking for network access to recent research into treatments for\nprecocious puberty.  If you know of specifics, would appreciate email. \nI have plenty of general textbook type references.  Have a niece whose\ndaughter is afflicted.  The mother is an RN and has done a rather\nexhaustive search of printed material. \n\nPls Email suggestions to \nlumensa@lub001.lamar.edu\n\nThanx.\n-- \n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------\nDale Parish - Orange, Texas            | Is the surface of a planet the\nLamar's Token Perpetual Student        | proper place for a developing \n(409)745-(vox)3899;(rec)1581;dat(2507) | industrial civilization?","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"THE ENEMY WITHIN\n                           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\n                        By Robert I. Friedman\n         The Village Voice, May 11, 1993, Vol. XXXVIII No. 19\n\n        | How The  Anti-Defamation League  Turned the Notion |\n        | of Human Rights on Its Head, Spying  on  Progress- |\n        | ives and  Funneling Information to Law Enforcement |\n\n\nRoy Bullock wanted to be a spy since he was a teenager in Indiana and\nread \"I Led Three Lives,\" Herbert Philbrick's Cold War saga of\npenetrating the Communist Party for the FBI.  Philbrick had become an\nAmerican folk hero in the 1950s for building dossiers on unsuspecting\ncolleagues.  It was a time when Hollywood produced more than 30 films\nportraying the informer as the quintessential American patriot.  In\nBoston, where Philbrick led three lives as an FBI informant, Communist\nParty member, and private citizen, the mayor even proclaimed a Herbert\nPhilbrick Day and presented the spy with a plaque.\n\nFor Bullock, a shy young man who was coming to terms with his\nhomosexuality in the straight-arrow '50s, the life of a double agent\nwas the perfect way to hide his lifestyle while fighting the Communist\nmenace.\n\n\"I was fascinated with Herbert Philbrick,\" Bullock recently told\nfederal investigators, \"and so I thought I would try to infiltrate the\nCommunist Part.  In 1957, I went to the Sixth World Youth and Student\nFestival in Moscow with the American delegation.  I gave them [the FBI\na full report on it when I returned, along with some photos I took of\nsome Soviet military vehicles.\"\n\nBullock was hooked.  For the next two years, he worked as an unpaid\ninformant for the FBI.  But he found his true calling when he became a\npaid spy for the Anti-Defamation League in 1960.  Now his activities\nare at the center of the biggest domestic spy scandal in recent\nAmerican history -- a scandal that may end with the ADL's criminal\nindictment in San Francisco.\n\nOver a 30-year period, he compiled computer files for the ADL on 9876\nindividuals and more than 950 groups of all political stripes,\nincluding the NAACP, the Rainbow Coalition, ACLU, the American Indian\nMovement, the Center for Investigative Reporting, Pacifica, ACT UP,\nPalestinian and Arab groups, Sandinista solidarity groups, Americans\nfor Peace Now, and anti-apartheid organizations.  Bullock, who even\nspied on the recently slain South African nationalist Chris Hani when\nhe visited the Bay Area in April 1991, sold many of his ADL files on\nanti-apartheid activists to South African intelligence.  Meanwhile,\nbetween 1985 and 1993, the ADL paid him nearly $170,000, using a\nprominent Beverly Hills attorney as a conduit in order to conceal its\nfinancial relationship with Bullock.\n\nLast month, police raided ADL offices in Los Angeles and San\nFrancisco, as well as Bullock's home, confiscating computer files and\nboxes of documents.  According to court records, Bullock's files\ncontained the driver's license and vehicle registration information,\nin addition to criminal histories on individuals -- much of which was\nallegedly stolen from the FBI and police computers.  Bullock, 58, told\nthe FBI that copies of virtually everything in his computer data base\nhad been given to the San Francisco ADL office.  \"Based on the\nevidence,\" says Inspector Ron Roth, in a police affidavit, \"I believe\nthat Roy Bullock and ADL had numerous peace officers supplying them\nwith confidential criminal and DMV information.\"\n\nWhat's more, the San Francisco D.A. is investigating Bullock for\ntapping phones, accessing answering machines, and assuming false\nidentities to infiltrate organizations.  Documents seized from\nBullock's home also contained evidence of his forays into Bay Area\ntrash cans: He had the names and phone numbers of employees at the\nChristic Institute in San Francisco, as well as telephone message\nslips to staff members (including names and phone numbers of callers),\noffice correspondence listing the names and return addresses of the\nsenders, and inter-office memos.  He also had receipts from Christic\nInstitute's bank accounts at Wells Fargo and Eureka Federal Savings,\nas well as itemized canceled checks with the names of the payees, the\ndates, and amounts.  Bullock even knew the balance in the Christic\nInstitute's checking account.\n\nInvestigations by the FBI and police in San Francisco have revealed\nthat the ADL has shared at least some of its spy gathering material\nwith Israeli government officials.  What's more, Israel apparently used\ntips from the ADL to detain Palestinian Americans who travelled there.\n\n                            *     *     *\n\nThe ADL was established in New York City in 1913 to defend Jews, and\nlater other minority groups, from discrimination.  It led the fight\nagainst racist and fascist groups like the Ku Klux Klan and the\nAmerican Nazi Party, and in the 1960s championed the civil rights\nmovement.\n\nBut there was also a darker side.  In the late 1940s, the ADL spied on\nleftists and Communists, and shared investigative files with the House\nCommittee on Un-American Activities and the FBI.  The ADL swung\nsharply to the right during the Reagan administration, becoming a\nbastion of neoconservatism.  To Irwin Suall, a repentant Trotskyite\nwho heads the ADL's powerful Fact Finding Department, the real danger\nto Jews is posed not by the right -- but by a coalition of leftists,\nblacks, and Arabs, who in his view threaten the fabric of democracy in\nAmerica, as well as the state of Israel.  In the tradition of his\nideological soulmate William Casey, Suall directed the ADL's vast\nnetwork of informants, who were given code names like \"Scumbag,\"\n\"Ironside,\" and -- for a spy reportedly posing as a priest in Atlanta\n-- \"Flipper.\"\n\nFor years, journalists and liberal members of the Jewish community\nknew the ADL spied on right-wing hate groups.  As long as the targets\nwere anti-Semitic organizations like the Liberty Lobby and Lyndon\nLarouche, no one seemed to be particularly troubled.  But the Bullock\ncase reveals that the ADL also spied on groups that have a nonviolent,\nand progressive orientation.  This apparent massive violation of civil\nliberties may end with the ADL's criminal indictment in San Francisco,\nwhere the investigation began.  The human rights group faces possible\ncriminal prosecution on as many as 48 felony counts, including an\nindictment for gaining illegal access to police computers.  Says one\nsource close to the West Coast investigation, \"It is 99 per cent\ncertain that the ADL will be indicted.\"\n\nIn the wake of the San Francisco investigation, police probes of ADL\nspying are spreading to other parts of the country.  \"We have received\nnumerous complaints about ADL [spying],\" says Sam Adams, a\nspokesperson for the mayor's office in Portland, Oregon.\n\nOn April 16, the Harlem-based Black United Fund of New York, and\nAfrican American self-help group that Bullock allegedly spied on,\nwrote District Attorney Robert Morgenthau, requesting \"an immediate\ninvestigation\" of the ADL.  \"The ADL's actions cause great concern, as\nit is a direct and flagrant violation -- at minimum -- of our civil\nrights....We call upon you to join with the District Attorney of San\nFrancisco to...bring and end to this latest form of McCarthyism.\"\n\nGerald McKelvey, a spokesperson for Morgenthau's office, says, \"We\nhave no evidence before us that warrants any sort of investigation.\"\nMcKelvey adds that Morgenthau offered to assist the FBI and the San\nFrancisco D.A.'s office on their pending investigation.  \"They have\nnot, so far, asked for our assistance.\"\n\nThe ADL acknowledges sharing information on violence-prone groups with\nlaw enforcement officials.  It also admits to maintaining extensive\nfiles on a wide variety of organizations, but says, in a two-page\npress release, \"The vast majority of ADL's files are composed of news\nclips, magazine articles, books, journals, and other documents....\"\n\n\"ADL has made it clear that it does not and will not countenance\nviolations of the law on the part of anyone connected with the agency,\nand the process by which the League gathers information is presently\nunder review to insure that no laws are being violated.\"\n\nThat's what the ADL says for public consumption.  But morale is so low\nthat its employees complain of sleepless nights and crying fits.  And\neven as other Jewish groups circle the wagons around the ADL in a show\nof solidarity, many do so holding their noses.  More than a few Jewish\nofficials privately say the ADL has to decide whether it is a human\nrights group or a secret police agency.\n\n\"The ADL is regarded both inside the Jewish community and outside the\nJewish community as the definitive source of information on anti-\nSemitism and extremist groups,\" says Daniel Levitas, the former\nexecutive director of the Center for Democratic Renewal, an Atlanta-\nbased group that monitors anti-Semitism, racism, and hate groups.\n\"One of the things this scandal has done is that it has completely\ntainted the ADL's credibility and reputation with regard to its\nobjectivity.  This scandal is going to be a devastating blow to the\nJewish community at large because people regard the ADL as synonymous\nwith American Jewry.\"\n\n                            *     *     *\n\nBullock's talents as a snoop and his extreme conservatism meshed well\nwith the ADL's Cold War worldview.  In 1960, he moved to Southern\nCalifornia where he became an ADL spy for $75.00 a week.  Bullock\nalmost always used his real name when snooping, although he once\ncalled himself Elmer Fink when corresponding with supporters of\nAlabama governor George Wallace.  Bullock provided the ADL's office in\nLos Angeles with written reports, which were transmitted to Fact\nFinding Department head Irwin Suall, according to court records.\nUnder Suall's stewardship, Fact Finding Department had become the\nADL's heart and soul.  Located at ADL national headquarters across\nfrom the United Nations, the department had assembled a vast library\non \"hate groups,\" culling material from publications, speeches, and\ninformants reports.\n\nBullock was more than adept at leading a double life.  Not long after\nmoving to California, he ingratiated himself with a woman in the John\nBirch Society who helped him gain access to the group's Boston office.\nThere, he found a file the right-wingers were keeping on the ADL.  The\ndiscovery gave rise to speculation in the ADL New York office that\nthey had somehow been penetrated by the Birchers.\n\nBullock focused almost exclusively on right-wing extremist groups\nuntil the early 1970s when ADL L.A. head Milton Sinn was replaced by\nHarvey Schechter, who encouraged him to target the left as well.  A\nfew years later, Bullock moved to the Castro District in San Francisco\nwhere he posed as an art dealer.  And ADL fact finder who had\ninfiltrated the local Arab community had just been exposed.  When the\nensuing scandal died down, Bullock was ordered by the ADL to penetrate\nthe Arabs.\n\nThe ADL was especially concerned about the American-Arab Anti-\nDiscrimination Committee, founded by the former South Dakota senator\nJames Abourezk to combat Arab-bashing.  In a page out of the CIA's\ndirty tricks handbook on penetration and destabilization, Bullock\njoined the ADC, and then recruited Nazis into the group, apparently\ntrying to discredit it, according to published reports.\n\nIn 1987, the ADL sent Bullock to attend the National Association of\nArab Americans annual congress in Washington.  According to court\ndocuments, Bullock was told to find the source of the group's funds.\nBullock was unable to \"follow the money.\"  But he did such a good job\nat ingratiating himself that he was appointed to head a NAAA\ndelegation that visited Congress member Nancy Pelosi.\n\nIt's not surprising that the ADL penetrated Arab organizations.  But\nonly acute paranoia explains their interest in groups like ACT UP.  As\nfar as Bullock was concerned, gay groups in San Francisco were heavily\ninfiltrated by what he called \"gay left revolutionaries,\" prompting\nhim to write about their activities for the ADL.\n\nBullock soon expanded his horizons, moving into the shadowy realm of\nforeign espionage after Richard Hirschhaut, the head of ADL's San\nFrancisco office, introduced him to Thomas Gerard in 1986.  Gerard was\nthen a detective with the San Francisco Police Department's\nIntelligence Unit.  Gerard had worked as a demolitions expert for the\nCIA in El Salvador in the early 1980s, where he apparently had more\nthan a passing interest in right-wing death squads.  (Police searching\nGerard's briefcase found extensive CIA literature about torture and\ninterrogation, photos of blindfolded and chained men, as well as\npassports made out to Gerard in 10 different names, including Thomas\nClouseau.  From a remote jungle island redoubt in the Philippines\nwhere he fled last November, Gerard told the Los Angeles Times that he\nwill blow the lid off the CIA's involvement with Latin American death\nsquads if he is indicted in the ADL spy case.)\n\nAfter their very first encounter in the ADL office, Gerard and Bullock\nhad lunch at McDonald's, \"I liked Tom right off,\" Bullock later told a\nSan Francisco police investigator whose report of the interrogation\nwas obtained by the _Voice_.  \"Tom is a very charming, roguish\ncharacter, with a great deal of integrity.  Let me say here, I\nconsider Tom Gerard one of the finest policemen I've ever worked\nwith, absolutely.  Honest, capable, intelligent and 100 percent\nAmerican.\"\n\nBefore long, Bullock was providing Gerard with confidential ADL\nreports on various groups and individuals.  In turn, Gerard gave\nBullock classified police intelligence files on local Arab Americans,\nskinheads, and others.  Bullock told the FBI that Gerard's material\nended up in his ADL reports.  \"I would say 99 percent of the data that\nI got was name, address, and sometimes physical description.  Criminal\nhistory, very rarely,\" Bullock told investigators.  Gerard also gave\nBullock a chart that outlined a vast network of Bay Area Arab American\nbusinessmen and organizations that allegedly has ties to Middle East\nterror groups, as well as surveillance photos of Arab Americans\nreceiving weapons training overseas.  Bullock claims that U.S. Customs\nin New York gave Gerard the photos.  \"It was understood that Bullock\nwould be very careful with what he did with the information Gerard\ngave him, and that Bullock would not release it except to the ADL or\nother law enforcement officers,\" says an FBI report.\n\nThere was nothing unusual about Bullock's cozy relationship with law\nenforcement.  By the mid-1980s, the ADL was swapping files with\nhundreds of \"official friends,\" the organization's euphemism for U.S.\nlaw enforcement and intelligence sources.  The ADL's relationship with\nthe FBI's counterterrorism office was so close that ADL's reports on\nArab American group's covert ties to Middle East terrorists were \"must\nreading.\"\n\nIt's no accident that police found a 1986 classified FBI report\nentitled \"Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP)--New\nYork Area\" while searching the ADL's San Francisco office.  In 1987,\nADL spooks investigated seven Palestinians and a Kenyan studying in\nCalifornia universities on student visas.  When the ADL discovered\nthey were disseminating PFLP literature, it informed the FBI, which in\nturn took the case to the Immigration and Naturalization Service.\nAfter the INS ordered the students deported as subversives, ADL\nregional director David Lehrer gloated in the _Los Angeles Times_\nabout his office's cooperation with law enforcement, although he's\nbackpedaling now.  The \"Los Angeles 8\" deportation is still under\nappeal.\n\n                            *     *     *\n\nWhile the ADL worked quietly with America's top cops, it enjoyed\nsimilar ties with Israel's spy agencies -- a charge that ADL leaders\nvehemently deny.  But as early as July 7, 1961, ADL director Benjamin\nEpstein wrote to B'nai B'rith executive secretary Saul Joftes,\nrequesting $25,000 for his investigators.  \"Our information,\" he\nboasted to Joftes, \"in addition to being essential for our own\noperations, has been of great value and service to both the United\nStates Department and the Israeli Government.  All data have been made\navailable to both countries with full knowledge to each that we are\nthe source.\"\n\nIn 1987, the ADL came under FBI scrutiny in the wake of the Pollard\nspy scandal.  While assigned to the Navy's Anti-Terrorist Alert\nCenter, where he had access to the most closely guarded U.S. secrets,\nJonathan Pollard stole thousands of pages of classified documents for\nIsrael, which, according to federal prosecutors, \"could fill a room\nthe size of a large closet...ten feet by six feet by six feet.\"\nPollard's handler was Avi Sella, an Israeli air force colonel whose\nwife worked for the New York ADL as a lawyer.  Pollard later wrote to\nfriends that a prominent ADL leader was deeply involved in the Israeli\nspy operation.\n\nWhile there is no proof that anyone connected with the ADL was\ninvolved with Pollard, there is evidence that the ADL freely passes\ninformation to Israeli intelligence.  In March 1993, the FBI\ninterrogated David Gurvitz, an ADL fact finder in Los Angeles until\n1992 when he was fired by Suall for illegally obtaining police\ninformation to use against a rival at the Simon Wiesenthal Center.\nThe FBI pointedly asked Gurvitz if he had ever transmitted information\nto Israel.  Gurvitz admitted that in 1992 he had learned from a law\nenforcement contact that Michael Elias, allegedly a member of a\nradical PLO faction, was scheduled to travel from San Francisco\nInternational Airport en route to Haifa.  Gurvitz phoned the deputy\nIsraeli consul general in L.A. with the information.  \"Later the same\nday,\" according to a 15-page FBI interview of Gurvitz obtained by the\n_Voice_, \"Gurvitz was called back by another man, who said he was from\nthe Israeli Consulate, and who asked Gurvitz to repeat the information\nabout Elias.  Gurvitz did not get this man's name, but their\nconversation was in Hebrew so Gurvitz felt confident the man was\nactually an Israeli Consulate official.\"\n\nAmong the 12,000 names of private citizens that police found in ADL\nfiles in San Francisco was Mohammed Jarad, a 36-year-old Chicago\nresident who was arrested in Israel on January 25, for allegedly\ndistributing hundreds of thousands of dollars to Hamas, the large\nIslamic fundamentalist movement in the Occupied Territories.  The\nChicago ADL office runs at least three undercover informants who work\nwith \"official friends\" in local law enforcement, according to\ndocuments released by the San Francisco D.A. and sources close to the\nADL.  Given these facts, Arab American groups surmise that the ADL has\npassed information on Jarad to Israeli intelligence.\n\nOne technique used by the ADL to monitor the large Arab American\ncommunity in the Midwest was to scan the local Arab press for funeral\nnotices.  According to sources familiar with the practice, ADL\ninvestigators in unmarked vans videotaped the Palestinian funerals,\nwhich sometimes turned into PLO rallies.  Palestinians have been\ndetained at Ben-Gurion Airport simply on the basis of having been\nfilmed attending a funeral in Chicago, according to Suhail Miari, the\nexecutive director of the United Holy Land Fund, whose cousin was an\nArab member of Israel's Knesset.\n\nShortly after Jarad was arrested, the Israeli government announced\nthat Hamas was being run from America with money and operational\ninstructions relayed by courier or fax.  Israel's charges were played\nup on the front page of _The New York Times_.  According to well-\nplaced sources, Yehudit Barsky, an ADL fact finder in New York, worked\nclosely with Israeli officials on this campaign of vilification,\nintroducing \"friendly\" reporters to \"official friends\" in Chicago law\nenforcement.\n\nBarsky, who is fluent in Arabic, prepared an ADL report about how\nHamas is funded in America.  She identified the Dallas-based Islamic\nassociation for Palestine in North America as the front organization\nfor Hamas in the U.S.A.  \"Its infrastructure functions as an\ninterlocking network of organizations, small businesses, and\nindividual activists,\" says the February 1993 ADL report, which\noutlines the organization's development, its activities on U.S.\ncollege campuses, and its \"metamorphosis\" during the Gulf War. It\nalso traces Hamas fundraising through a plethora of alleged front-\ngroups from Plainfield, Indiana, to Culver City, California.  It is\ndoubtful that Barsky could have compiled such sophisticated data\nwithout the help of \"official friends\" and ADL spies.\n\nBarsky refused to comment.  But she used to talk to Greg Slabodkin as\nmany as three times a week when he was an opposition researcher for\nAIPAC, whose spy operation was disclosed last summer in the _Voice_.\n\"The level of cooperation was very close,\" Slabodkin said during a\nrecent phone conservation from Israel where he is in graduate school.\n\"If we felt our files were lacking, we contacted the ADL.\"\n\nWhen Sha'wan Jabarin, a 30-year-old Palestinian human rights worker in\nthe Occupied Territories won a $25,000 Reebok Human Rights Award in\n1990, Slabodkin recalls that Barsky faxed AIPAC the man's entire\npolice file, which she had obtained from the Israeli embassy.  Jabarin\nhad been arrested numerous times in Israel, and once confessed to\nbeing a member of the PLO after having been severely tortured.\nJabarin, who received a short jail term, became an Amnesty\nInternational Prisoner of Conscience.  Of course, to AIPAC and the\nADL, Jabarin was a terrorist.  Slabodkin, who was ordered to keep tabs\non him when he was in the U.S. to receive his award, called a\nrepresentative of Al Haq, the Palestinian human rights group that\nemployed Jabarin, to obtain his itinerary.  AIPAC even opened a file\non musician Jackson Browne, who presented Jabarin with the Reebok\naward.\n\nWhile the ADL may be able to rationalize its close monitoring of\nArabs, and even left-wing gay revolutionaries, it has a far harder\ntime explaining its obsession with spying on anti-apartheid activists.\nDavid Gurvitz told the FBI that when he started working as a fact\nfinder for the ADL in L.A. in March 1989, ADL files already bulged\nwith information about the Israel-South African connection and anti-\napartheid groups.  \"Gurvitz confirmed that the ADL did routinely\ncollect information on persons engaged in anti-apartheid activities in\nthe United States,\" says the FBI report.  While Gurvitz said there\nwere files in the L.A. ADL office dating to the 1930s, he estimated\nthe oldest material on anti-apartheid activities dates back to the\nlate 1970s, paralleling Begin's rise to power in Israel and a\ndeepening of ties between the Jewish state and South Africa. \"In\nabout August, 1992,\" says the report of the FBI's March 3, 1993,\ninterview with Gurvitz, \"an anti-apartheid demonstration was held at\nthe South African Consulate in Los Angeles.  Participating in the\ndemonstration were the Los Angeles Student Coalition and the Socialist\nWorkers Party.  Gurvitz went to two demonstration planning sessions,\nand a subsequent demonstration.  He wrote a report for the ADL on each\nof the planning sessions and on the demonstration.  Copies of the\nreports were disseminated to Bullock, among others, in care of the San\nFrancisco ADL office.\"\n\nIn 1986 Bullock learned that the consul general of the South African\nConsulate in Los Angeles would be speaking in Las Vegas at a meeting\norganized by Willis Carto, the head of the anti-Semitic Liberty Lobby.\n\"Suspecting that the Consul General did not know who Willis Carto is,\"\nsays the FBI report, \"Bullock suggested to Gerard that they might want\nto warn the South Africans.  Gerard agreed and informed the Consul\nGeneral, who canceled his appearance.\"\n\nA few months later, Gerard phoned Bullock and told him a South African\nintelligence officer wanted to meet them.  During a rendezvous in a\nhotel near Fisherman's Wharf, the South African said he was interested\nin acquiring information on American anti-apartheid activists.  The\nSouth African, who called himself Mr. Humphries, also asked for\ninformation about groups that were advocating divestments.  \"Gerard,\nwho was present throughout the meeting,\" says the FBI report, \"told\nHumphries that he [Gerard] had been employed by the CIA....Humphries\noffered to pay Bullock $150.00 per month in exchange for information.\nBullock noted that much of the information Humphries said he wanted\nwas already in the possession of Bullock and the ADL.\"\n\nBetween 1987 and 1991, Bullock sold information to South African\nintelligence, receiving steady raises, which he split evenly with\nGerard.  \"Bullock said it was his impression, though Gerard never\nexplicitly told him so, (and Bullock never asked) that Gerard may have\nbeen telling the CIA about his and Bullock's contacts with the South\nAfricans,\" says the FBI report.  \"Gerard had said he knew the CIA\n'resident agent' in San Francisco....Once, after Gerard dropped\nBullock off at Bullock's residence following a meeting with Louie [who\nreplaced Humphries as their handler], Gerard said he was going to go\nto the San Francisco CIA office.\"\n\nAl the while, Gerard may have been \"tasking\" Bullock for the CIA.\n\"Bullock recalled that once, after he had met Gerard, Bullock went to\nChicago, Illinois to conduct an investigation on behalf of the ADL,\"\nsays the FBI report.  \"The target of the investigation was a group\ncalled the Palestine Human Rights Campaign.  Bullock learned that a\nwoman [name deleted] was transporting money between the PLO or the\nPFLP, and the United States.  Bullock told this to Gerard.  Gerard\nlater told Bullock that Gerard's 'guy at the CIA' would like to know\nmore.  Gerard asked Bullock if Bullock would go back to Chicago to\ngather more information on the Palestine Human Rights Campaign.\nBullock, however, never did go back.\"\n\nGerard also seems to have had a close relationship with Mossad, which\nmay have started in 1991 when he went on an ADL junket to Israel.  The\nADL frequently sponsors trips for American law enforcement officials\nto Israel, where they are wined and dined and meet their counterparts\nin various intelligence agencies.  According to an affidavit by San\nFrancisco police inspector Roth, the \"all-expense paid trip [to\nIsrael] was more or less a thank-you gift and a liaison gesture by the\nADL to continue the close relationships it has with specific law\nenforcement officers from the United States.\"\n\nGerard may have liked what he saw in Israel.  A short time after\ntravelling there, he went to Addis Ababa where he helped with Mossad's\nrescue of Ethiopian Jews.\n\nAs Gerard's relationship with South Africa deepened, he talked more\nopenly about his exploits in the CIA.  \"Bullock recalled Gerard\nmentioning that he had been in Algeria on CIA business, and that\nGerard discussed the PLO and 'safehouses,'\" says the FBI report, \"To\nthis Louie once responded that Israeli intelligence had determined\nthat the PLO and the African National Congress were cooperating.\nGerard also spoke of having travelled with the CIA to Afghanistan....\nLouie also [told Gerard and Bullock] about his adventures inside South\nAfrica as an intelligence officer.  Both Gerard and Louie traded 'war\nstories' and regaled each other and Bullock with tales of 'narrow\nscrapes.'\"\n\nAlthough there is still much mystery about what triggered law\nenforcement's investigation of the ADL, it was probably the theft of\na classified FBI report on the Nation of Islam from the FBI's San\nFrancisco office.  Police armed with search warrants recovered the\nreport in the ADL San Francisco office.  Gurvitz says he had sent a\ncopy of it to Mira Boland, the director of the ADL's fact finding\ndivision in Washington, D.C.  Boland was preparing an op-ed piece for\n_The Washington Times_, in which she argued that the Nation of Islam\nshould not receive federal funds for the reconstruction of L.A.\nbecause the group is anti-Semitic and violence-prone.  (Boland, who\nhad arranged the ADL police junket to Israel attended by Gerard,\ntestified in a 1990 criminal trial in Roanoke, Virginia, that she had\nworked for the CIA for 14 months and later was a subcontractor for the\nDefense Department before joining the ADL.  During the trial, Boland\nadmitted to sharing information with a CIA official at an invitation-\nonly ADL conference.)\n\nAfter he was questioned by the FBI last fall, Gerard fled to the\nPhilippines, which has no extradition treaty with America.  Gerard is\nbelieved to have supplied information from police computers not only\nto the ADL, but to Israel and South Africa as well.  The _San\nFrancisco Examiner_ reported that Gerard may be charged with violating\nfederal espionage laws.\n\nAlthough Bullock worked for the ADL for 30 years, and Irwin Suall\npraised him in a July 1992 memo as \"our number one investigator,\" the\nADL now argues that he was a rogue agent.  In its own defense, the ADL\nalso asserts that its fact finders operate no differently than\njournalists.  After all, ask ADL officials, don't journalists keep\nfiles?\n\nBut the difference between the practice of journalism and the ADL's\nmethod of gathering information couldn't be more striking.\nJournalists place information in the public domain where they are held\naccountable for falsehoods, distortions, and libel.  And for the most\npart, journalists don't share their investigative files with foreign\nand domestic police agencies.  The ADL has no such inhibition.\nBecause many of its files are not open to public scrutiny, false\ninformation collected by ideologically biased researchers cannot be\ncorrected.  Once a proud human rights group, the ADL has become the\nJewish thought police.\n\n\"The ADL says it's a human rights group not just for Jews but for\neveryone,\" says Chip Berlet, a highly respected researcher at the\nMassachusetts-based Political Research Associates, which monitors\nright-wing extremist groups.  \"That's fine but it can't do that and\nspy on Palestinians.  It's blatantly unethical and frankly immoral.\"\n\n\"My argument to people is that the ADL wears four hats.  Each of the\nhats independently is appropriate.  It is a broad-based human rights\ngroup that looks at the broad issues of prejudice and discrimination.\nIt is a group that defends Jews against defamation.  Entirely noble.\nNothing wrong with that hat.  It is a group, whose leaders, at least,\nconsistently defend the actions of Israel against its critics, which\nagain is entirely appropriate.  And it is a group that maintains an\ninformation-sharing arrangement with law enforcement.  Again, there is\nnothing wrong for a group to do that.\"\n\n\"But you can't do all four.  It is impossible to do all four and not\nviolate the bounds of ethics.  There's a built-in conflict of interest\nif you wear all four hats.\"\n\nADL national director Abraham Foxman apparently sees no such conflict.\nIn a September 1, 1992, letter to the _Voice_, Foxman complained: \"ADL\nhas a proud 80-year record of fighting bigotry and promoting civil\nrights and constitutional freedoms.  Any imputation of an effort or\nmotive on our part to smear or stifle the free speech of anyone is\nfalse and baseless\"\n\n\"Throughout his pieces [on AIPAC's spying], Friedman describes the\ndissemination of information as if it were slander, and the existence\nof files as a token of McCarthyite inclination.  The depiction is\nmisleading in several ways.  Virtually every journalist, academic,\npolitician and organization keeps files on subjects they deem\nrelevant; tracing the logic of Friedman's reckless charges, the\nLibrary of Congress is tantamount to the KGB.  Moreover, disseminating\nthe public record of a public figure is neither defamation nor\nMcCarthyism.\"\n\nBut many believe the ADL is increasingly in the defamation business.\nAsk Jesse Jackson, James Abourezk, or the leaders of the New Jewish\nAgenda -- all past targets of ADL smears.  (At the same time, the ADL\nexonerated the fascist World Anti-Communist League, which assisted\nRonald Reagan's covert war against Nicaragua, a policy endorsed by ADL\nleaders.)\n\nIn the early 1980s, researchers Russ Bellant and Berlet asked to meet\nfact finding head Irwin Suall, to discuss their work on anti-Semite\nLyndon LaRouche.  \"Our view then of Irwin Suall was that he was this\nreally terrific investigator,\" says Berlet.  \"So we introduce\nourselves, say what we are up to and Suall leans back in his chair and\nbasically runs down a dossier on each of us: about what our political\nactivities are, who we work with, what organizations we belong to.\nObviously, he was just trying to blow us away and he succeeds\nadmirably.  We were just sitting there with our mouths open feeling\nvery uncomfortable.\"\n\n\"And then he leans forward and says, 'The right-wing isn't the\nproblem.  The left-wing is the problem.  The Soviet Union is the\nbiggest problem in the world for Jews.  It's the American left that is\nthe biggest threat to American Jews.  You're on the wrong track.\nYou're part of the problem.'  We were stunned.  I was virtually in\ntears.  This is not how I perceived myself.  We basically stumbled out\nof there in a daze.\"\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n               Letters (response to Friedman's article)\n\n         The Village Voice, May 18, 1993, Vol. XXXVIII No. 20\n\nA LEAGUE OF HIS OWN\n\nRobert I. Friedman's assault on the Anti-Defamation League [The Anti-\nDefamation League Is Spying On You.\" May 11] demonstrates that he has\nan axe to grind and his own prejudiced and biased agenda to promote.\nIt also demonstrates that concern for accurate reporting is far down\non his list.  The story is replete with inaccuracies, innuendos, and\noutright falsehoods, and conveys a picture of ADL so divorced from\nreality as to be farcical.  Friedman is even wrong on such basic,\neasily determined facts as where ADL was founded (Chicago, not New\nYork) and the building in which ADL'S San Francisco office is located\n(not the Jewish Community Federation building pictured).\n\nADL has done the work of fighting haters for 80 years, without\n\"spying\" on organizations or individuals and with profound respect for\nthe law.  Our mission is to monitor and expose those who are anti-\nJewish, racist, anti-democratic, and violence-prone, and we monitor\nthem primarily by reading publications and attending public meetings.\nThrough the years, we have published scores of reports on anti-\nSemitism emanating from both the left and the right.  In fact,\nalthough Friedman's bias leads him to assume the contrary, ADL's\nprimary concern is still the far right.\n\nBecause extremist organizations are highly secretive, sometimes ADL\ncan learn of their activities only by using undercover sources.\nFriedman's hyperbole notwithstanding, these sources function in a\nmanner directly analogous to investigative journalists.  Some have\nperformed great service to the American people -- for example, by\nuncovering the existence of right-wing extremist paramilitary training\ncamps -- with no recognition and at considerable personal risk.  The\ninformation ADL obtains is placed in the public domain, and through\nthe years ADL has established a reputation for accurate reporting.\n\nFriedman's article, by contrast, contains so much misinformation that\nit would take an article equally as long to set the record straight.\nA few examples:  He states that an \"ADL leader was deeply involved in\nthe [Jonathan Pollard] Israeli spy operation,\" and that Pollard's\nhandler's wife \"worked for the New York ADL as a lawyer.\"  Not true.\nFriedman also states:  \"ADL investigators in unmarked vans videotaped\nPalestinian funerals.\"  Not true.  Elsewhere, he asserts that ADL was\nobsessed \"with spying on anti-apartheid activists.\"  Again, not true.\nWe could go on and on -- and, of course, Friedman does not reveal\n*his* sources.\n\nThe distortion games Friedman plays when he mentions numbers further\nreveal his lack of objectivity.  When it comes to how much ADL paid\nRoy Bullock a week -- as an independent contractor, not an employee\n(an important distinction Friedman also fails to make) -- he includes\nthe zeros ($75.00, $150.00), inviting the reader to see a large\nnumber.  By contrast, when he observes that ADL paid Bullock \"nearly\n$170,000\" between 1985 and 1993, he chooses not to point out that\namounts to little more than $20,000 a year -- hardly an excessive sum.\n\nWhat is accurate about Friedman's story is Chip Berlet's description\nof ADL's four hats.  Yes, ADL looks at broad issues of prejudice and\ndiscrimination.  Yes, ADL defends Israel against critics.  And yes,\nADL maintains an information-sharing relationship with law enforcement\nregarding extremist activities and hate crimes.  We see no conflict in\nthese four activities, and we believe most _Voice_ readers won't\neither.\n\nABRAHAM FOXMAN\nNational Director\nAnti-Defamation League\nManhattan\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nROBERT I. FRIEDMAN REPLIES:","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"So far, there is NO credible evidence that the BD's set the fires\nthemselves. We only have the ATF\/FBI's sayso. Law enforcements type\nwould *never* lie to cover their ass, right?\n\n\nNo, not love, just share a surprising similarity of beliefs and\nmethod.\n\n\nFunny, yeah, funny how you didn't wait for the FBI spokesdroid \nlatest reversal of \"facts\" before proclaiming the BD's burned\nthemselves to death.\n\n\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"This poll was conducted to help users decide whether or not to alter their\nIIsi clock oscillator. I have attempted to gather as many case histories as\npossible to find some estimate of success and risk. The number of replies\nprobably shows how rare this modification is but give the impression that\nsuccess rates may be higher than the previous 80% estimate. 24 of 24\nmachines were able to run at 25 mhz when no add on boards were present.\nThis is not a scientific survey but it is the best we have to work with.\n\nThanks to all who contributed to this poll. \n\n\nIssues:\n\n\tSpeed) 25 mhz to 27.5 mhz appears to be the norm for machines without\n\t\tadd on cards. All reported machines were able to use\n\t\t25 mhz as long as no add on cards were present. Several Apple\n\t\tNubus cards were in use. No machine with the Nubus adapter\n\t\twas able to go faster than 25 mhz. One wasn't even able to\n\t\tachieve 25 mhz with the Nubus adapter in place\n\t\n\t\tAt speeds of 32 and 33 mhz, the startup sound is distorted and\n\t\thi density floppy disk problems have been reported.\n\t\t\n\t\tNote: Unless specifically listed below, machines were not\n\t\t\ttested with a higher speed clock to failure. Hence,\n\t\t\tthe 25 mhz operational machines may well work at\n\t\t\thigher speeds.\n\t\t\t\n\tDamage) One user reported pulling out the plating of one pad. This was\n\t\trepaired and the machine is operational. One other\n\t\treported pulling the pin out of the original clock oscillator\n\t\tduring desoldering. There is one second hand report of a user\n\t\tputting a gash in the motherboard with a slipped soldering iron.\n\t\t\n\t\tNo reports of static discharge damage.\n\t\t\n\t\tNo reports of high speed operation causing damage.\n\t\t\n\t\tThen again, I also don't have any reports from users of\n\t\tdefective parachutes.\n\t\t\n\tAdd on boards) Compatibility appears to be a problem with Apple Nubus\n\t\tAdapters. Several other add on boards have been used with\n\t\tsuccess. See case histories\n\t\t\n\tHeat Sinks) Virtually all modified machines had a heat sink installed.\n\t\tThese were often the TO-220 style power transistor type. Some\n\t\tused epoxy. Some used a dab of heat sink compound with a dab\n\t\tof cyanoacrylate glue. There was also use of a clamp with a\n\t\tbolt through the hole in the motherboard.\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\nCase Histories:\t\n\nAll speeds are the effective CPU speed (1\/2 of clock oscillator). All reported\nCPU versions were 20 mhz.\n\n1)  27.5 mhz operational. Ran for 10 minutes at 31 mhz before crashing.\n    No FPU or other add on card\n    Heatsinked CPU only\n    On 24 hours\/day\n    No damage during installation\n   \n2)  27.5 mhz operational without Apple Nubus adapter. 25 mhz top speed with\n\tApple Nubus card installed\n    Heatsinked CPU only\n    On 24 hours\/day\n    No floppy problems\n    No damage during installation\n   \n3)  27.5 mhz operational. Unable to boot at 31 mhz\n    Heatsinked CPU only\n    No floppy problems\n    No damage during installation\n   \n4)  25 mhz operational\n    Works with the following two configurations\n\t\n\t  \ta)\tRealtech FPU adaptor card\n\t\t\tRealtech Cache card\n\t\t\tSuperMac 8*24 PDQsi\n\t\t\n\t\tb)  \tSuperMac FPU adaptor card\n\t\t\tSuperMac Video Spigot\n\t\t\tSuperMac 8*24 PDQsi\n\t\t\t\n5)\t33 mhz operational\n\t\tFuzzy startup sound\n\t\tProblems with hi density disks\n\n6)\t33 mhz operational\n\t\tFuzzy startup sound\n\tHeat sink on CPU and chip to right of CPU\n\t\n7)\t25 mhz operational. Occasional crash at 33 mhz\n\n8)\t25 mhz operational.\n\tUsing FPU rated at 16 mhz without difficulty\n\t\n9)\t25 mhz operational.\n\tPDS adapter with a Spectrum 24PDQsi graphics card and a \n\tVideoSpigot, a 20MHz FPU\n\tHeat sink on CPU\n\t\n10)\t25 mhz operational. 33 mhz failed after several hours.\n\n11)\t25 mhz operational\n\t 5\/80+quicksilver\/fpu(only upgrade)\n\t \n12)\t25 mhz operational. Tried 33 mhz - system won't start. \n \tHeat sink on CPU\n\tConfigured with\n\t\tRealTech FPU\/adapter card\n\t\tSupermac 8*24 PDQsi\n\t\tRealtech cache.\n\tCPU on continuously - no problems.\n \tFloppy works fine at 1.4MB @ 25 mhz\n\t\n13) 25 mhz operational\n\tHeat sink on CPU\n\t\n14) 25 mhz operational\n\tHeat sink on CPU\n\t\n15) 25 mhz operational\n\tHeat sink on CPU\n\t\n16) 25 mhz operational\n\tHeat sink on CPU\n\t\n17) 25 mhz operational\n\tHeat sink on CPU\n\tOn 17-19 hours per day\n\t\n18) 25 mhz operational\n\tHeat sink on CPU + cooling fan\n\tNo floppy problems at 25 mhz\n\t\n19) 20 mhz operational. Bombed soon after startup at 25 mhz with Nubus Adapter\n\t20 mhz rated CPU\n\tRAM 70 ns in slots, 80 on motherboard\n\t\n20) 25 mhz operational\n\tHeat sink added to CPU later. No damage while unheatsinked.\n\tApple Nubus adapter with FPU installed.\n\t\n21) 25 mhz operational\n\tHeat sink on CPU\n\t\n22) 25 mhz operational\n\tHeat sink on CPU\n\t\n23) 25 mhz operational\n\tHeat sink on CPU\n\t\n24) 25 mhz operational\n\tHeat sink on CPU","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nAccording to CNN last night (Saturday 4\/24\/93) he has now found bullets\nin two of the corpses, in the head (that would indicate that the bullets\nwere aimed at killing the humans).\n\nCheers,\nKent","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nThis is not quite right.  The differential arrival time techinique\nrequires interplanetary baselines to get good positions.  The\ndifferential arrival at the eight detectors differ by 10's of nanoseconds.\nThis is smaller than BATSE's microsecond timing capabilities.\nBATSE, Ulysses, and Mars Obsverver are used for this technique.\n\nEach BATSE detector does not have a full sky field of view.\nThe sensitivity of each detector decreases with increasing \nangle of incidence.  The burst position on the sky is determined by\ncomparing the count rates in different detectors.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"   To you, it shouldn't matter if you do evil things or good things.  It is\n   all meaningless in the end anyway.  So go rob a bank.  Go tell someone\n   you dislike that he is a dirty rotten slime bag.  What's restraining you?","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nNow THAT makes sense.  But the other half must be in a non-government\nescrow.  (I still like EFF, but I admin their security has not been\ntested.)\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nI remember a physic prof. who talked about scaling a cue ball to Earth size.\nIts was significantly less spherical that the Earth!\n\n---\nTerry F Figurelle\t\t\tBoeing Defense & Space Group\nemail: tff@plato.ds.boeing.com\t\tPO BOX 3999, Mail Stop 6J-EA\nphone: 206-394-3115 fax:206-394-4300\tSeattle, WA 98124-2499\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I am looking for some Public Domain (and exportable) code for\nencryption.  Nothing elaborate, just something that will satisfy\na marketing need :-)\nOh yes, UNIX platform.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Well, actually not quite. Both Radar and Radio-Altimeters measure distances\nby measuring the time required to transmit a signal, then receive its\nreflection from a target. Radar generally uses pulses, while Radio Altimeters\nuse either pulses or a modulated continuous-wave transmission. In the case of\nthe latter, highly accurate distance measurement can be made. As an example,\nthe original Bendix ALA-52 Radio Altimeter was accurate to 1\/8 foot at 2500\nfeet altitude.\n\nNote, however that this is a different method of measuring than the poster\noriginally asked about. The problem with gaining accurate measurements between\na transmitter and a seperate receiver is that you need a highly accurate\ntime base which starts at the receiver at the exact instant the transmitter\ntriggers. This cannot be wire connected, since radio waves will actually\ntravel faster in free-space (air, in this case) than wire (the difference\nis called the velocity factor of the cable). So you need to resort to a\ncommon timebase that is automatically corrected for distance, etc. Something\nlike a PLL connected to a GPS receiver should do the trick, triggering both\nthe transmitter and receiver simultaneously. Sound expensive? Not too bad,\nbut plan on spending a few bucks in both equipment and effort.\n\nWhy not go to a different method? Surveyors use a laser-light system where again\nthe reflection time is measured. Why not try this? (Sounds like something a P.E.\nshould know about anyway ;-).\n\n\nThis is actually highly inaccurate, since the power output of a transmitter\nvaries from unit to unit, there are variances in the antenna and transmission\nline, and the receiver may also vary, both from unit to unit, and the same unit\nover time. You would need to continuously calibrate the entire system. With\nthe radio altimeter this is also done, but since everything is located at\none place, it is much easier to do. Note especially that the time base for\nthe R.A. receiver and transmitter is one unit also...\n\n\nNope. FM capture effect says that the strongest signal wins. That is, unless\nthe two interfering signals are seperated by more than 3 db in signal strength.\nThis is the one problem that makes altimeters inaccurate at very low altitudes.\nSignals bouncing off runways tend to be VERY strong...\n\n\nAs high as possible to eliminate outside influence, and also to enhance\nattenuation of multipath signals. Radio Altimeters typically use frequencies\naround 4 GHz.\n\nHope this helps...\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"IMHO, one should place the keybanks into satellites (space). The \nrecovery should be done only by (highly visible) teams of astronauts.\n\n\n-- \nBorut B. Lavrencic, D.Sc.     | X.400   :C=si;A=mail;P=ac;O=ijs;S=lavrencic\nJ. Stefan Institute           | Internet:Borut.B.Lavrencic@ijs.si\nUniversity of Ljubljana,      | Phone   :+ 386 1 159 199\nSI-61111 Ljubljana, Slovenia  |\t    PGP Public Key available on request","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I have a small network running in my dorm at school, and I am kind of\nworried about the length of the wires and the way that I have run it.\nI was wondering if anyone might have some schematic or at least some\nideas on how to make some sort of simple appletalk repeater.  I'm not\nso interested in making actual zones and zone names, just a way to\nisolate different branches of the network.\n\nDoes anyone have any ideas on what could be done??","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nThe 91 and 92 Cruisers run the 4.0L straight 6 which only has about 150hp \nand 220lb-ft of torque.  Plenty off-highway, marginal on the highway.\nThe 93 has a much improved 4.2L straight 6 with >200hp and 275ft-lb torque.\n\n\nIf you take them on rough trails, you'll see the difference.  The Cruiser\nis an order of magnitude better in off-highway ability.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nThis is always an option: when the sect is causing harm, re-label\nthe cult to something else.\n\nCheers,\nKent","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI have no idea what this guy means but the Syrian Jews are not allowed\nto leave Syria because Assad welshed on his promise and is not letting\nthem go. Israel has nothing to do with it.\n\nAs for the other Arab countries there are still small communities left\nin some Arab countries. Morocco has the largest group I think comprising\nperhaps just over a thousand (but I have lost the exact figure. Maybe\nsomeone will be so kind as to post it). There are communities left in\nYemen (which went to the polls yesterday in what might appear to be a\nfree-ish election), Algeria (this is a tiny group, a couple of leftist\nintellectuals I think), of course Syria and Lebannon.\n\nThe circumstances of the departure of the Jews from various Arab countries\nis controversial in some cases - like Iraq - and I do not want to get into\na dispute about it. Egypt expelled most of its community outright. Most of\nthe French North African Jews left rather than face Independence. I think\nthat Moroccans might have been encouraged by some AntiSemitic acts but I\nam not sure. Someone else around here will know for sure. There are claims\nthat Israeli intellegence officers spread rumours around Algeria that the\nJews would not be welcome but this is probably just propaganda. It would\ntake a very stupid person not to realise the benefits of a move to France\n(as most did) or to Israel. Yemeni Jews were airlifted to Israel. Those\nleft were rumoured to have another airlift last year but I heard nothing\nabout it so I guess it was just a rumour. Any I left out except Iraq?\n\nJoseph Askew\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"G'Day All,\n\nI'm looking for a program to convert BMP images to GIF, TGA or even PPM.\n\nI'd prefer a unix program, but Dos is fine also.\n\nI've seen Alchemy (for DOS) and some windows image viewers which can save\nan image in other formats, but what I'm after is a converter not a viewer...\n\nAny help would be apprieciated!\n\ncheers\nStephen.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I had a deal on one, but the buyer disappear, so here we go again:","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Due to the large amount of request for 3dbench of ET4000\/W32,\nI finally can get a 3dbench v1.0 from a ftp site.\n\nThe 3dbench of ET4000\/W32 in my Cardex W32 card with 1MB DRAM\nhas superscape benchmark of 26.3 frames\/sec.\n\nHope it will satisfy people curiosity of this ET4000\/W32 performance.\nWhat other benchmark program result you would want to know? 8-)","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n   You may not think that it is fair, but how many sins do you know of\nthat affect only the sinner?  Is it fair for us even to be able to get\ninto Heaven?  Do we have a _right_ to Heaven, even if we were to lead\nsinless lives?  Anyway, your argument seems to be saying, \"If _I_ were\nGod, I certainly wouldn't do things that way; therefore, God doesn't do\nthings that way.\"\n\n\tIsaiah 55:8-9:\n\n\t\"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my\n\tways, saith the LORD.  For as the heavens are higher than the\n\tearth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts\n\tthan your thoughts.\"\n\n   Original Sin is biblical:\n\n\tRomans 5:12-14:\n\n\t\"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death\n\tby sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have\n\tsinned: (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not\n\timputed when there is no law.  Nevertheless death reigned from\n\tAdam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the\n\tsimilitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him\n\tthat was to come.\"\n\n\t1 Corinthians 15:22:\n\n\t\"For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made\n\talive.\"","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nwell it seemed to work for the Mac II installation I was talking about.\nOh yeah there is something I forgot to mention :\neven though you're not suppposed to have water around, there IS\n some condenstion d\ndripping from the roof of the plane make sure that your hardware is covered.\nMake also sure that your keyboards are protected from the two-phase flow\ncoming out of sick people. It happened to us.....\n\nGood luck.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nI have a joint House-Senate conference committe report (i.e., crime bill)\nfor the 102rd Congress which contains a \"Brady Bill -- 7 day waiting period\"\nwithin it.  I believe it just died and never came up for a vote in either\nhouse.\n\n\nThey got four years of Clinton's support to pass it.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n   > I'm wondering if I can tote my American touch tone phone around with me\n   > to Sweden and Germany.  It's DC powered, and I can buy a special adapter\n   > for that in Europe.  The question is if the general electronics work\n   > the same.  I can buy a different wall plug and refit it (I'm sure I'd\n   > have to), but would that do the trick?\n\n   Two things to watch for:\n   In Germany (and I think the same holds for Sweden) only some\n   of the connections can handle tone dialing, so make sure the\n   phone can be set to pulse dialing.\n   In Sweden, the '0' is the first digit and all other digits\n   are pushed \"down\" by one position; this makes dialing (and\n   in the process converting numbers) an interesting task.\n   Otherwise, it is technically no problem to connect a foreign\n   phone to either the German or Swedish phone system.\n   OTOH neither you nor I would ever try that, as it is of course\n   illegal.\n\nAs the phone uses DTMF dialing, which by some magic all telecom\noperators seems to have agreed on, this is a complete non-issue.\n\nI don't think there are any switches in Sweden that can't handle DTMF\ndialing. Most switches are now digital and thoses that aren't have\nbeen retrofitted with \"magic fingers\" that converts from DTMF to pulse\ndialing.\n\nThomas","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"This has troubled me for a long time and needs to be dealt with.\n\nFrom a long article Available through an individual on this newsgroup.\n\nAbout scripture being against homosexuality:\n------------------------------------------\nWhen we  are\nless homophobic we will see that what we know as gay and lesbian  people,\nengaging in loving, voluntary erotic relations with each other, aren't  even\nmentioned. [in the Bible, tk]\n------------------------------------------\n\nThis frightens me (not in the homophobic sense, but intellectually),\nespecially because it was written by someone from a homosexual church.\n\nSo, if my interpretation is different than theirs, I am homophobic!  This\ncan't be right. Disagreement in interpretation of the Bible and\/or rejection\nof homosexual acts is not tantamount of homophobia.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"There are many programs on CD-ROM that fit on a harddisk, not all software \nis that big (but we're getting there :-)).\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nGuido Klemans\n\nInternet: rcstage1@urc.tue.nl                  valid until 16 may 1993\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n'Listen very carefully, I will say this only ones.'  Michelle of the resitance\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\t daved@world.std.com (Dave T Dorfman) writes...\n]I was enjoying lunch this saturday at foodies in Milford NH with an assortment\n]of other nedod folks when Dean Cookson ( yes he has not left the \n]country, yet) mentioned that the wiring diagram of the VFR750 \n]shows that  the light switch is a three position switch. \n\n]high beam\n]low beam\n]Both beams\n\n]Well the actual ergonomics of the switch make it appear to be a\n]2 position switch, but sure enough as Deam expected , when\n]you balance the toggle switch in the center position both the high\n]and low beams go on.\n\n]This provides a very nice light coverage of the road.\n\n]This is true for the St11 and the VFR750 and I would expect for any \n]other late model Honda with the standard two position light switch.\n\n]Thanks to Dean for reading the schematics, try it you'll like it.\n\n\tBe a bit careful doing this; I used to balance the switch on my GS550B\navec Cibie' H4 insert so that both beams were on.  I eventually fried the\nmain ignition switch, as it wasn't designed to pass that sort of current.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"To Whomever who can help me,\n\n\tI am a doctor from Kota Bharu, Kelantan, Malaysia. I have recently hooked up my \nprivate home computer to EMail via the local telephone company. I am really interested\nin corresponding with other Doctors or medical researchers through Email. I also hope\nto be able to subscribe to a news network on medicine.\n\nCan someone please tell me what I should do? I am completely new to this and have no \nidea about the vast capabilities of Email.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nJesus did and so do I.\n\nPeace be with you,","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nThis really bugs me.  The emissions of diesels are the cleanest of any vechicle,\nbut they are considered so polluting that they are banned in passenger cars\nin California.  What a bunch of crap.  Diesel is the fuel of choice for \nenviromental benefit in Europe while here it's illegal for the same reason.\n\nThe particulates are nothing but carbon.  They are just an annoyance at worst.\nNothing beats the diesel cycle for efficiency and emissions, torque or engine\ndurability.  It's also cheaper.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nWe have reached the point in our society when there are certain crimes\nthat are so heinous that to merely be accused with them one is automaticly\nconsidered guilty and deemed not to have any natural rights much less civil \nrights. Among these are drug abuse, sexual perversion, and political \nincorrectness.\nToday Billary accused Koresh of having SEX with infants. He had been accused of\na number of differing crimes (inconsistantly) over the last two months, but \nthis is the first time I have heard that one. I had heard child abuse but\nthis is somewhat stronger.\nIt is fairly obvious that Koresh  was hiding behind the children; and ironicly\nconsidering his apocalyptic dread, believed enough in the American People's\ninherent goodness to believe he was protected.\nIt is truly amazing that all these people who 60 days ago had never heard of \nthe Branch Davidian now believe that he was suicidal, crazy, a child abuser and \na immenant danger to others based solely on what the Government spokespersons\nhad said. Remember that these people have an awful lot to loose if it is found\nthat they have screwed up. \nBut they don't have as much to lose as David Koresh and his followers lost.\nFor in our society as it stands murder is not one of the heinous crimes.\n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nBig deal. If you are a legitimate law enforcement agent and have a\nlegitimate wiretap order, you just listen in on the line for 10\nminutes, get the serial number, and then take the order and go to the\nescrow agencies. If you notice the criminal is now using a different\nphone instrument, take your still-valid wiretap order to the escrow\nagency with the new serial number. (This provides opportunities for\nabuse by law enforcement, but thats not what we are discussing right\nnow.) I oppose Clipper, but the mechanics here are simple and easy to\nunderstand. The whole rest of your article is based on a large series\nof false premises, all predicated on the notion that this simple act\nis somehow impossible.\n\nI feel free to presume to tell you that you do not seem to understand\nthe mechanics of the proposal. Arguing that terrorists will be killing\npeople for their clipper phones is silly because its pointless. Lets\nbe alarmist about what really would show up as a problem, shall we?\n\n--\nPerry Metzger\t\tpmetzger@shearson.com","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Get the generic version (for Unix and VMS) and build it. IMHO a\nVMS .com file to build it is supplied.\nAs the distribution comes as .tar.Z you should either have uncompress\nand tar on VMS or a UNIX flavoured machine handy.\nUsually you won't find this on IBM-PC specific archives, but on the better\nones :)\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"bobbe@vice (Robert Beauchaine;6086;59-323;LP=A;YAyG) Pontificated: \n\nI would guess that you either mean that you don't have a problem\nswearing aligance to a non-existant being or that you are being\ndeliberatily dense (considering what group this is).  \n\nIt doesn't come \"quite naturally\" to nonbelievers such as myself\nor even to followers of other religions.  Would you say it would\nbe quite natural if you were forced to swear by \"Allah\" or\n\"Budda\"?  \n\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"unfortunately not\n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nSpeaking of that.....\nMy comp has \"emmexclude=$e000-$efff\" or something of that nature in the\nsystem.ini file.  Or some system file for *windows*.\n\nI was just wondering if having that line in a *windows* startup file is\nbetter, as it will give some more memory on dos apps., but disable it\nwhen you run windows?\n\n(Actually, I *do* think that that line is also in the system.1 file)\n\npeace,\nMickey","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"On a more cheerful note, perhaps hackerism\/hacking isn't completely dead.\n\nAs someone else said, take the GNU offerings for example - free, redistributable and \noften better than the commercial stuff.  Take also the number of papers published\nevery year in all the fields of computer science - the vast majority of these papers\ndetail original work of real, often exceptional merit - and the authors are sharing\nthis knowledge.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n: 09.05.93, 14:48\n\n: Hi out there !\n\n: Is there anybody who can write me how to add icons to the iconlist (which\n: is build-into) of Progman.exe ?\n\n: I'm grateful for every clue !\n\n: Thanx and have a nice day !\n\nOne way is to use a program called Iconmaster. It's shareware and If you can't\nget it mail me, and I'll post it to you.\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nwhich Kenneth Engel challenges:\n\nI will wimp out and admit that I never liked the metaphor of\nJesus \"paying\" for our sins in the sense that many Christians\naccept as literal. The point is that God understands the suffering\nwe go through, not just intellectually like when we watch\nthe Somalians on TV, but _really_ understands, He can \"feel\" \nour pain. This fact is manifested by Jesus' life. We can argue\nthat someone in history might have suffered more than Jesus,\nwe can think of more horrible torture than crucifixion, we can\nthink of cases of betrayal and fruitless effort leading to\nworse despair, but the main point is that Jesus is in the\ntrenches with us, He is in everyone, whatever I do to the least\nof humanity I do to Him, and whatever I do for the least of\nhumanity I do for Him.\n\nNow, to reconcile this with the existence of hell is beyond my\ncapabilities, but that wasn't my goal.\n\n\nThankfully our moderator is surprising.\n\n\nAs I re-read this I must admit that this is more of a description\nof my faith than an explanation, but perhaps that's all\nI can do, hopefully that's all I have to do.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nNeither.  \n\n\nYou don't have to pay attention to any one source, neither do you\nhave to abandon your critical thinking, but to disregard all sources\nof information as 'lies' and 'distortions' and substitute your own\npet theories is more likely to get you wild untruths than by basing\nyour theories on the 'facts' as they are reported by the media and\nthe government.\n\n\nActually there was evidence of the fire being set deliberately -\nboth testamony by the survivors and IR tape showing the fire\nbeing set in 3 places AND the petrochemical soot that the fire \nwas giving off (indications of kerosine or gasoline feeding the\nfire).  \n\nYou might not believe 1 or 2 if you are totally paranoid or very\nskeptical, but my 3rd point is visible to anyone who watches the\ntapes of the fire and has started a BBQ grill.\n\n\nHo ho ho.  I listen to NPR, watch CNN, NBC.  I also read the\npapers.   Where do you get YOURS?\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Heres a nice story to help explain the virtues of purity, innocence\nand modesty, and their importance.\n\n\n\n    The Most Beautiful Virtues\n\n    This story is an excerpt taken from The  Basket  of  Flowers   by\n    Johann Christoph von Schmid\n\n\n    In a certain little market town, over a hundred years ago,\tthere\n    lived  an  upright\tand  intelligent man named Jacob Rede. He was\n    married to a most virtuous young woman and they lived happily  in\n    a  humble  home which was in the midst of a large, beautiful val-\n    ley. After living many, happy years together, Jacob's wife\tdied,\n    leaving  him alone with only one friend...his daughter Mary. Even\n    as a child Mary was uncommonly pretty; but as she grew in  years,\n    her piety, her innocence, her modesty and her unfeigned kindne ss\n    towards all she came in contact with, gave to her beauty  a  rare\n    and  peculiar  charm. Her face was lighted up with a look of such\n    indescribable goodness, that  it  seemed  almost  as  though  one\n    looked upon an angel.\n\n    Mary's greatest delight was the beautiful garden and her  favour-\n    ite  flowers  were the violet, the lily and the rose. Jacob loved\n    to point to them as emblems of the virtues most becoming  to  her\n    gender.  When\tshe  once, early in March brought the first violet to\n\n    Let the modest violet, my dear Mary, be to you an image of humil-\n    ity  and  of the benevolence that does good in secret. It clothes\n    itself in the tender colours of modesty; it prefers to  bloom  in\n    retired  grots; it fills the air with its fragrance while remain-\n    ing hidden beneath the leaves.  May you also, my  dear  Mary,  be\n    like  the  retiring violet, avoiding vain display, not seeking to\n    attract the public\teye,  but  preferring  ever  to  do  good  in\n    quietude and peace.\n\n    One morning when the roses and lilies were in full bloom and  the\n    garden appeared in its richest array, Jacob said to his daughter,\n    as he pointed out a beautiful lily,  which\twas  beaming  in  the\n    morning sun:\n\n    Let the lily my dear child, be to you the emblem\n     of purity. Look how beautiful, how pure and fair it is! The whi-\n    test  linen is as nothing compared with the purity of its petals:\n    they are like the snow. Happy the maiden whose heart is  as  pure\n    and as free from stain. But the purest of all colours is also the\n    hardest\n\n\t\t\t\t   -5-\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n    to preserve pure. Easily is the petal of the lily  soiled;\ttouch\n    it\tbut carelessly or roughly and a stain is left behind.  In the\n    same way, a word or a thought may stain the purity of  innocence!\n\n     Let the rose my dear Mary, be to you an emblem of modesty.  More\n    beautiful  than the colour of the rose is the blush that rises to\n    the cheek of a modest girl. It is a sign that she is  still  pure\n    of\theart  and  innocent in thought. Happy is the maiden whom the\n    suggestion of a thought that is indelicate, will cause to  blush,\n    as\tshe  is thus put on her guard against the approach of danger.\n    The cheeks which readily blush will remain for a long  time  with\n    their  roseate  hue, while those which fail to blush at the least\n    indelicacy of thought will soon  become  pale  and\twan,  and  go\n    before their time to the grave.\"\n\n\n\n\n    Among the many fruit trees that adorned the garden there was  one\n    that  was  prized above all the others. It was an apple tree, not\n    much larger than a rose bush, and stood by itself in  the  middle\n    of\tthe garden. Mary's father had planted it the day that she was\n    born and every year it bore a number of beautiful apples. Once it\n    blossomed  earlier\tthan  usual  and with unusual luxuriance. The\n    tree was one mass of blossom. Mary was so delighted with it  that\n    she went every morning as soon as she was dressed to look at\n     it. Once, when it was in full bloom, she called  to  her  father\n\n    Look father, how beautiful! Was there ever such a lovely mingling\n    of\tred  and  white?  The whole tree looks like one huge bunch of\n    flowers!\n\n    The next morning she hastened into the garden to feast  her  eyes\n    once  more\tupon the tree. But what was her grief to see that the\n    frost had nipped it and destroyed all its flowers. They were  all\n    become  brown  and\tyellow\tand  when  the\tsun came forth in its\n    strength they withered and fell to the ground. Mary  wept  bitter\n    tears at the sight. Then said the father:\n\n    Thus, does sinful pleasure destroy the  bloom  of  youth.  Oh  my\n    child,  never  cease to remember how dreadful it is to be seduced\n    from the path of right! Behold in the example of the  apple  tree\n    an\timage of what would happen if you were to wander from the way\n    - if the hopes your conduct  hitherto  has\traised\tin  my\theart\n    should  vanish,  not  merely for a day or year, but for life. Ah,\n    then how much more bitter would be the tears which I  would  shed\n    over your lapse from virtue than those which now course down your\n    cheeks! Life would have no joys for me: with tears in my eyes  I\n    should\n\n\t\t\t\t   -6-\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n    go down sorrowfully to my grave.\n\n    As he spoke, the tears stood in his eyes; Mary was deeply  moved,\n    and  the words he uttered made so profound an impression upon her\n    mind that she never forgot them.\n\n    Under the eyes of a father so  loving  and\twise,  and  amid  the\n    flowers  of  her  garden, Mary grew daily in stature and intelli-\n    gence - blooming as a rose, pure as a  lily  and  retiring\tas  a\n    violet, and as full of promise as a tree laden with blossom.\n\n    Happy was the old man at all times to behold how plenteously  the\n    fruits  of\this  garden  rewarded his diligent toil; but with how\n    much more happiness and content did he mark the  gracious  effect\n    produced  upon  the heart and mind of his beloved daughter by his\n    pious teaching and example.\n\n    Jacob plucked several roses and lilies, tied them together\tin  a\n    bunch and gave them to Mary with the words:\n\n    The lily and the rose, sister flowers as they are, belong the one\n    to\tthe  other;  both incomparable in their beauty, they are ren-\n    dered still more lovely by being together. In  the\tsame  way  my\n    dear  child  are innocence and modesty twin sisters of virtue and\n    cannot be separated\n\n\n\n\n    The greatest and most powerful guardian of purity is the  thought\n    of the presence of God\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nDid anyone notice any helicopters equipped with thermal imaging \nequipment? They usually manifest themselves in a turret in the front\nof the helo, or a sphere on top of the rotor with optical elements.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Article: 41686 of sci.electronics\nNewsgroups: sci.electronics\nPath: news.nd.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!bogus.sura.net!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!gatech!asuvax!ennews!mcdphx!schuch\nFrom: schuch@phx.mcd.mot.com (John Schuch)\nSubject: Food Dehydrators\nMessage-ID: <1993Apr19.154356.17880@phx.mcd.mot.com>\nSender: news@phx.mcd.mot.com\nNntp-Posting-Host: bopper2.phx.mcd.mot.com\nOrganization: Motorola Computer Group, Tempe, Az.\nDistribution: usa\nDate: Mon, 19 Apr 93 10:43:56 EST\nLines: 9\n\n\nTry Mother Earth News, Feb\/March 1993, pg 54, \"Build a Food Dryer\"","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Dear netters\n\nI am wondering about the accident of Koresh. I have heard different \nexplanations.\nWithout any explanation about your opinions and believes,\n please kindly tell me:\n\n     1)- What was Koresh talking about?. (Or  what was his message)\n     2)- What was the main reason that Government went in war with\n             Koresh?\n(Some say that due to Tax payment, ....)\n\nThanks in advance for your historical explanation.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nZoroaster is far older than Daniel. If anything, one could claim that,\nin a sense, Daniel is a descendant of Zoroaster; as Daniel, though being\nHebrew, has assimilated into Zoroastrianism and has successfully\nintroduced the religion into the Tanakh of Judaism. [However, the majority \nof the book is in Hellenistic Aramaic (not Babylonian Aramaic) and only has\nKethuvim or Writing status.]\n\nRef: Encyclopedia of Religion, Mircea Eliade:\n\nDANIEL, or, in Hebrew, Daniyye'l; hero of the biblical book that bears his name.\nDaniel is presented as a Jew in the Babylonian exile who achieved notoriety in\nthe royal court for his dream interpretations and cryptography and for his\nsalvation from death in a lion's pit. He also appears in the last chapters of\nthe book as the revealer of divine mysteries and of the timetables of Israel's\nrestoration to national-religious autonomy. As a practitioner of oneiromancy in\nthe court, described in Daniel 1-6 (written in the third person), Daniel per-\nforms his interpretations alone, while as a visionary-apocalyptist, in Daniel\n7-12 (written in the first person), he is in need of an angel to help him\ndecode his visions and mysteries of the future. It is likely that the name\nDaniel is pseudonymous, a deliberate allusion to a wise and righteous man known\nfrom Ugaritic legend and earlier biblical tradition. (Ez. 14:4,28:3).\n  The authorship of the book is complicated not only by the diverse narrative\nvoices and content but by its language: Daniel 1:1-2:4a and 8-12 are written in\nHebrew, whereas Daniel 2:4b-7:28 is in Aramaic. The language division parallels\nthe subject division (Daniel 1-6 concerns legends and dream interpretations;\n7-12 concerns apocalyptic visions and interpretations of older prophecies). The\noverall chronological scheme as well as internal thematic balances (Daniel 2-7\nis chiliastically related) suggest an attempt at redactional unity. After the\nprefatory tale emphasizing the life in court and the loyalty of Daniel and some\nyouths to their ancestral religion, a chronological ordering is discernable: a\nsequence from King Nebuchadrezzar to Darius is reported (Dn. 7-12). Much of\nthis royal dating and even some of the tales are problematic: for example,\nDaniel 4 speaks of Nebuchadrezzar's transformation into a beast, a story that\nis reported in the Qumran scrolls of Nabonidus; Belshazzar is portrayed as the\nlast king of Babylon, although he was never king; and Darius is called a Mede\nwho conquered Babylon and is placed before Cyrus II of Persia, although no such\nDarius is known (the Medes followed the Persians, and Darius is the name of\nseveral Persian kings). Presumably the episodes of Daniel 2-6, depicting a\nseries of monarchical reversals, episodes of ritual observances, and reports of\nmiraculous deliverances were collected in the Seleucid period (late fourth to\nmid-second century BCE) in order to reinvigorate waning Jewish hopes in divine\nprovidence and encourage steadfast faith.\n  The visions of Daniel 7-12, reporting events from the reign of Belshazzar to\nthat of Cyrus II (but actually predicting the overthrow of Seleucid rule in\nPalestine), were collected and published during the reign of Antiochus IV prior\nto the Maccabean Revolt, for it was then (beginning in 168 BCE) that the Jews\nwere put to the test concerning their allegiance to Judaism and their ancestral\ntraditions, and many refused to desecrate the statues of Moses and endured a\nmartyr's death for their resolute trust in divine dominion. All of the visions\nof Daniel dramatize this dominion in different ways: for example, via images of\nthe enthronement of a God of judgment, with a \"son of man\" invested with rule\n(this figure was interpreted by Jews as Michael the archangel and by Christians\nas Christ), in chapter 7; via zodiacal images of cosmic beasts with bizarre\nmanifestations, as in chapter 8; or via complex reinterpretations of ancient\nprophecies, especially those of Jeremiah 25:9-11, as found in Daniel 9-12.\n  The imagery of the four beasts in chapter 7 (paralleled by the image of four\nmetals in chapter 2), representing four kingdoms to be overthrown by a fifth\nmonarchy of divine origin, is one of the enduring images of the book; it sur-\nvived as a prototype of Jewish and Christian historical and apocalyptic schemes\nto the end of the Middle Ages. The role and power of this imagery in the\nfifteenth and sixteenth century work of the exegete Isaac Abravanel, the\nscientist Isaac Newton, and the philosopher Jean Bodin and among the Fifth\nMonarchy Men of seventeenth century England, for example, is abiding testimony\nto the use of this ancient topos in organizing the chiliastic imagination of\ndiverse thinkers and groups. The schema is still used to this day by various\ngroups predicting the apocalyptic advent.\n  The encouragement in the face of religious persecution that is found and\npropagandized in Daniel 11-12 contains a remarkable reinterpretation of Isaiah\n52:13-53:12, regarding the suffering servant of God not as all Israel but as\nthe select faithful. Neither the opening stories about Daniel and the youths nor\nthe final martyrological allusions advocate violence or revolt; they rather\nadvocate a stance of piety, civil disobedience, and trustful resignation.\nVictory for the faithful is in the hands of the archangel Michael, and the\nmartyrs will be resurrected and granted astral immortality. Persumably the\ncircles behind the book were not the same as the Maccabean fighters and may\nreflect some proto-Pharisaic group of hasidim, or pietists. The themes of\nresistance to oppression, freedom of worship, preservation of monotheistic\nintegrity, the overthrow of historical dominions, and the acknowledgement of\nthe God of heaven recur throughout the book and have served as a token of\ntrust for the faithful in their darkest hour.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"The question is not whether your radio will be stolen.  The question is\nwhen your radio will be stolen.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nBoth xli and xloadimage will display in 24 bit color if a 24 bit visual\nis available.  Check the output of xdpyinfo to see if one is.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"GM has always screwed the rest of the divisions in favor of the\nCorvette. The current platform is no exception. The \"detuned\" Camaro and\nFirebird is a load of crap to keep people from realizing that they can\nbuy one of these instead of a Corvette and save about $10,000.\n\nI like the idea of an Impala SS, but if they really wanted to impress\nme, they would throw in a big phat 454. Imagine the cops in their Taurus\npolice package 3.0 and 3.8 litres as they stare at your taillights...\n\nGeorge Howell","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Gateway 2000 Fax\/Modem\nsend receive fax 9600 baud\nsend receive up to 57,000 baud\n.. more\n\nnever been used\ncomes with software crosstalk\/winFax\n\nNew $195 from Gateway (only sold to gateway customer)\nwill fit into your AT bus","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nInteresting question, esp since I remember *wishing* with all\nmy heart that this *were* true so that I wouldn't have to be a \n\"good Christian\" anymore.  \"Christianity\" was terribly hard, the\nonly reward was Heaven and (maybe, sometimes, if I was really\ngood) acceptance; I wanted a way out.\n\n\nWhat Jesus has done for me since I found Him (some 6 months ago) \nI do not want to lose.  Period.  \n\nThat said, I originally interpreted the What-If as \"if Christ\nnever mentioned Sheol and weeping and gnashing of teeth, if\nChrist preached that those who did not follow him died and stayed\ndead and at that point forever ceased to exist....\"\n\n\nI believe that we can only be complete through Christ. \nDo you think that Buddhists can also be complete?\n\n-jen\n\n-- ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n...\n\nIf we take things this literally then we must also forbid women from\nspeaking in church. Paul while led by the holy spirit was human and could\nerr. I find it interesting that CHRIST never discussed the issue of\nhomosexuality, certainly it existed back then and if it was a serious\ntransgression CHRIST would have condemned it. \nI find it disturbing that the modern church spends its energy trying\nto stamp out something that CHRIST didn't consider worth a single word\nof condemnation. CHRIST repeatedly warns us against judgement. \nDon't we risk \"judgement in equal measure\" when we condemn people who \nGOD himself did not judge when he walked on the earth?\n\n-- \n   |         The love of CHRIST is contagious!       \n --+--                                          \n   |                                                ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I currently have a AD-lib card, it can play .mid files in windows\nbut it cannot play the startup .wav files.. \ni called microsoft... no help.\ni cannot call ad-lib since they went belly up.\n\ndoes anyone know if there are special drivers that i need for this?\nif so, where are they?\n\nThanx in ad-libvance!! :-)\n\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n Rabin is the PM. Did he ever indicate such a wish? Try to implement it?\n\n\n\n\nI opt for the third.\n\n\nIsh","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nHow generous Andi.  Thanks for your validation.  ","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Persons interested in the tongues question are are invited to\nperuse an essay of mine, obtainable by sending the message\n GET TONGUES NOTRANS\n to LISTSERV@ASUACAD.BITNET or to\n    LISTSERV@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThe Hart Trophy was orginally awarded in a time where people did not think\nin terms of who was the \"best\" player, rather in terms of who was the most\nvaluable to the team.  And \"valuable to his team\" was not, and should not\nbe, considered synonymous with \"best\".  We are talking about a time when\nhonour and attitude, not measurable skills, were the most important assets\na player brought to his team, his league and his sport.  This was before\nthe onslaught of professionalism which has clearly denigrated what was \nformerly the foremost peacetime pursuit of glory.\n\nThe Hart Trophy is not a prize.  It is an honour.\n\n\n-- ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nStill here. Just doing a little sobbing in our beer so we're to busy to\npost :-)\n\nSeriously I think I caught a .sig curse from Nelson :-)\nFirst the $%@#$%$ Rangers and $50 now the B's......\nHmmm....How bout dem Whalers? (No offense to steveg or others)\n\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nThough David Sternlight pushes the envelope of credibility by claiming that\ntalk.politics.guns is not the place to discuss guns, or the meaning of the\nSecond Amendment, it seems he would rather post to millions of people out \nof relative ignorance of the subject than to follow the currently active \nthreads discussing EXACTLY this topic which at least explore the fallacies \nof his erroneous claim, and at most explode them.\n\nBasic fact #1, Mr. Sternlight:  The RIGHT described is a \"right of the people\nto keep and bear arms;\" not a \"right of the people to form a militia,\" a\n\"right of a militia to keep and bear arms,\" or a \"right of well-regulated\npeople to keep and bear arms.\"  This should be apparent from a simple\nreading of the sentence.\n\nFor the other arguments, I suggest you check out the thread, \"Some more\nabout gun control,\" playing now in an alt.politics.usa.constitution\nnear you.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Picture our universe floating like a log\nin a river.  As the log floats down the\nriver, it occasionally strikes rocks, the\nbank, the bottom, other logs.  When this collission\noccurs, kinetic energy is translated into heat, the\nlog degrades, gets scraped up, and other energy \ntranslaions occur.  The distribution of damage to\nthe log depends on the shape of the log.\n\nHowever, to a very small virus in a mite on the head of a\ntermite in the center of the log, the shock waves from the\ncollissions would appear uniformly random in direction.\n\nThis is my theory for GRB.  They are evidence of our universe\ninteracting with other universes!  Why not!  Makes\njust as much sense as the GRB coming from the Oort cloud!\n\nThe log theory of universes can't be ruled out!\n\nOf course, I'm a layman in the physics world.  You \nphysicists out there, Tell me about this !!!!\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nThat would be a V4 ticket, presumably, not a V5 ticket.  The V4 ticket\nformat can even be complicated several more orders of magnitude...","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"cdash@moet.cs.colorado.edu (Charles Shub) writes...\n\nWhat really irritated me was that they kept switching back and forth\nbetween baseball and hockey after they stated that they couldn't show\nthe overtime period. I turned back to ESPN around 11 and it was hockey.\nGreat, I pulled up a chair and watched, then the first overtime period \nended and they went back to baseball before coming back to hockey\nsomething like 30 minutes later. Are they trying to alienate both\nhockey and baseball viewers at the same time. As for Martinsville,\nI wonder why they even bothered to sign up for it when they it was\nno secret that it coincided with the draft. Why not let TNN broadcast\nit ?\n\n\nGeorge","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\nDoes anyone have a source for 386DX\/25 Motherboards?  I've\nbeen calling around the local stores and everyone appears\nto be only stocking the 386DX\/33\/40 or 386SX\/25\/33 motherboards.\n\nHow difficult is it to modify a 386DX\/40 motherboard to run at\n25 MHz?  Is it as simple as replacing the system clock with a\nslower part?\n\nThanks!","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Alas, we too will have to stop using it.\n\nBrian","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I have a '81 DATSUN 210 HATCHBAK forsale:\n\n\tIt's a Blue Datsun\n\tTwo doors (three, since it's a hatchback)\n\t69,900 miles\n\tAutomatic\n\tVery good condition (I hate to sell it, but Phila insurance is\n\t\t\t     outrageous; I also don't need a car right now)\n\tI am asking $800 or BO","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"[...]\n\nAs anyone who attended HoHoCon will attest, you can pick information\noff the video chip.  It's surprisingly easy too.  The guy did it with\na portable TV, with very minor mods.  It only worked from 3 feet, but\nthen it was just a demonstration.\n\n\tRA\n\nrogue@cs.neu.edu (Rogue Agent\/SoD!)","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nSince there is no BIOS support for ST-506 interface hard disks in an XT,\nthat support must come from a BIOS extension ROM on the (MFM\/RLL) hard disk\ncontroller. Usually the controller has a ROM-based low level format\nprogram (a common jump address is C800:0005 ... you can type G=C800:5 from\ndebug to see) and a small table of drive geometries it \"knows\" about.\nSometimes these are selectable using jumpers on the card, sometimes you\ncan enter them manually in the LLF menu. Failing that, you must use a\nthird-party HD prep program like SpeedStor, Disk Manager, or the like.\n\nIDE drives come formatted already, and since the is controller part of the\ndrive mechanism itself, concerns about geometry are irrelevant. Plug\nit in and go to FDISK.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\nGeez, I think some of these people have been too long on the net,\nyou are not going to convince anyone of anything through violent\nlanguage, one wonders why so many have violent tounges...\n\n\n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":":>\n:> I would not be suprised if the equipment is compatible, in fact New York\n:>Telephone (NYNEX) spend a lot of money on Swedish switching equipment\n:>recently.\n:>\n:>>Lars-Henrik Eriksson                            Internet: lhe@sics.se\n:>\n:> You can guess what brand of equipment I refer to :-)\n:>\n:\tLars-Henrik will be pleased to know that his name is\n:plastered all over phones at New Mexico State University as well.\n:They got the contract when NMSU went to a digital phone system.\n[snip]\n\nNot quite correct! The company name is Ericsson. (With a 'c').\n\n\n---","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\tText & Graphics:\n\tBristol Technologies has help clone of MSWindows help\n\tFrame (makers of FrameMaker) has FrameView\n\n\tText only:\n\tGraphical Software Technology has Xtra Widgets (includes help)\n\n\tThere are probably others (check out ICS widget data book)\n\nI actually wrote one for the last company I worked for-- however it is\nlocked in their internal reuse library.  :-(  \nIt was a good one too! (IMHO and totally unbiased view of things) ;-)\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nFor example, I would claim that the recent assassination of four\ncatholic construction workers who had no connection with the IRA\nwas probably religously motivated.\n\n\nWhat would you call is when someone writes \"The killings in N.I \nare not religously motivated?\"\n\n\nGiven that the avowed aim of the IRA is to take Northern Ireland\ninto a country that has a particular church written into its \nconstitution, and which has restriction on civil rights dictated\nby that Church, I fail to see why the word \"past\" is appropriate.\n\n\n\nYou don't have to hand us a bunch of double-talk about what\nI was \"seemingly\" attacking.   I *quoted* what I was attacking.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I'm planning to buy a computer and I like TC's ads.   Can you tell anything\nabout the company and their computers?  Also, if anyone has a company they \nwould prefer, please let me know.\n\nThanks.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":" \nstarted!\".\nnot \n\nIt's also what you say when you're waiting for the end to come in a \n\"fiery apocalypse\"...just a thought.\n\nPersonally, if the fire was set (by either side), I wonder about the\ntiming.  If Koresh & Co. set the fires, why wait through six hours of\nwall-bashing and tear-gassing before starting; was there anything \"new\"\nthat happened just around that point?  Similarly, if the FBI were going\nto torch the place (and fake it, of course), why wait so long, wouldn't\nit be more \"reasonable\" to believe the BD's would set the fire early\nafter the assault began?  \n\nThe most plausible (to me) explaination is that of an accidental starting\nof the fire by the tanks.  Among other things, I say that because I\nwas listening to the radio when the fire started and the reporter\n(watching from a distance, of course) said that it looked like at least\none of the tanks had penetrated farther into the building than previously.\nSpecifically, he said that one tank apparently was halfway (half of\nthe tank's lenght) into the building where it previously had only been \npenetrating a few feet.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Ok, let me see if I can get all this out concisely.  I am on an\ninformation gathering venture regarding the various expressions of\nChristianity\/churches there are.  \n        My husband and I come from very different, but completely\nChristian backgrounds.  I was a Lutheran when I met him and he was a\nborn and raised Church of Christ member.  At first I agreed with a lot\nof what the C of C was about, I wanted to move from the liturgical\nbased Lutheran church to something a little more Biblical based.\nHowever over the last year, I've been regretting changing to the\nChurch of Christ for a number of reasons - for one thing I am not a\nfundamentalist and believe that a few things in the Bible are\nsocio-cultural in nature and don't relate to the Christian doctrine.\nOne of my sorest spots is the role of women.  I believe that through\nMary and other women, Chris validated women as worthy disciples - but\nin the C of C the writings of Paul are taken without exception and I\nam told that I am not an equal partner in my marriage but the lesser\nmember, I am to submit to my husband in all things (if I hear that\nverse one more time....) and I am not to take an active role in\nanything which might be construed as putting me in authority over men\n(ie leading prayers, conducting Bible studies etc).   The last straw\nwas when the Elders at our church came down on one of our college\ngroups because it was all-women and they wanted a man to lead the\nstudy.\nAlso my husband and I really resent the way everyone at our church\nfeels that if you aren't a conservative republican - you aren't a REAL\nChristian (I got told that nobody who voted for Clinton should call\nthemselves a Christian).  Hence we are subjected during the service to\nlong prayers calling for things we flatly dont agree with.  We are\nalso don't agree with the C of C's dread of any new \"movement\" being\nled by the young people.\n\nSo, we have been church hunting with NO success.  I want a reasonably\nbiblical based church where women are viewed as whole people no matter\nwhat their calling ( C of C really looked down on career women).\nChristopher is looking for a church with deeply rooted religious\nconvictions, with adult baptism and a church where the members still\nbring their Bibles to service.\n\nWe are so confused here and we're drifting around trying to find a\nplace where we both feel loved and can express our faith honestly and\nwithout reservation.  If anyone can point us in a direction we'd be\nthrilled!\nI'm afraid that it will be very hard for me to go back to C of C and\neven harder for me to stay churchless for long.\n\nany responses would be welcome\n\n\nthe diel family","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nTrue, but the basic idea behind any communications security system is not\nto absolutely deny access, but to make access more expensive (in time,\nmoney, manpower) than it is worth.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I came across this interesting information in my local public library while  \nresearching minivans.  It is the dealer price and the retail price for a  \nminivan I am thinking about purchasing.  Someone told me that the number for  \nbase price was slightly lower than the current price, but this should still  \ngive you some idea about pricing and how much you can negotiate.\n\n\nMercury Villager GS\n                          Dealer     Retail\nBase Price                $14688     16504\nAir Conditioning             729       857\nRear Defroster               143       168\nCalif. Emissions              87       102\n7 Passenger Seating          282       332\nAM\/FM Radio (no cassette)    STD       STD\nAutomatic Transmission       STD       STD\nAnti-lock brakes             STD       STD\nDestination                  540       540\n\nThe total dealer cost is $16469\nThe total retail price is $18467\n\n\n\nNissan Quest XE\n                          Dealer     Retail\nBase Price                $15212     17545\nAir Conditioning             STD       STD\nRear Defroster               STD       STD\nCalif. Emissions              59        70\n7 Passenger Seating          STD       STD\nAM\/FM Cassette               STD       STD\nAutomatic Transmission       STD       STD\nAnti-lock brakes             593       700\nDestination                  540       540","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\tDummy Hoy, a late 19th-Century baseball player, was deaf.  In\norder for him to be able to find out whether the pitch was a ball or\nstrike, the umpires developed hand signals.  This also helped to relieve\nthe stress on umpires' vocal cords, so they didn't have to shout \"STRIKE!!!\"\nor \"BALL!!!!!\" 350 times a game...\n\tHeard about this one from the only worthwhile baseball book\nJohn Thorn has ever authored, \"A Century of Baseball Lore\" :-) ","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nAccording to the NY Times, the 4 islands \"belong[] to the United Arab\nEmirates.\" \n\n\nWhy is it, then, that when the British, Iranians and UAE refer to\nOccupied Territory, they mean territory in dispute in Israel but not\nin their own affairs?\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nBecause I'm a guy and most of my pillions are female. \n\nAlso, the other reasons, like having an idea where you passengers\nweight is, it being a more comfortable position for the passenger,\nand it being a more stable configuration all come into it as well.\n\nHolding the grab rail is a great idea only for braking, when you\ndon't want the pillion to slide forward into you, otherwise I don't\nfind it works well.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"What fraction of the NASA workforce is civil servant \nas opposed to contractor and what are the rules on\nreduction in work force for civil servants?\n\neg, if say the shuttle program is terminated, how\nmuch is payroll reduced and how?","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n > Paul repeatedly talks about the \"thorn\" in his side. Some think\n > it refers to lust, others pride, but who knows? Whatever the\n > thorn was, apparently it was not compatible with Christianity,\n > yet does that make his epistles any less?\n\nPaul mentions his \"thorn\" (SKOLOPS, actually a sharp stake) in 2\nCorinthians 12:7-9\n\n + And to keep me from being too elated by the abundance of\n + revelations, a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of\n + Satan, to harass me, to keep me from being too elated. Three\n + times I besought the Lord about this, that it should leave me;\n + but he said to me, \"My grace is sufficient for you, for my\n + power is made perfectr in weakness.\"\n\nHe does not explain what it was, but it need not have been a moral\nproblem.  One guess is that Paul had a disorder of the eyes. He\nordinarily dictated his letters, and then added a personal note and\nhis signature. At the end of the letter to the Galatians, he says,\n\"See, I am writing in large letters with my own hand,\" or else, \"See\nwhat a long letter I have written with my own hand.\" If the former\ntranslation is adopted, it seems that Paul could not write in the\nsmall script of a practiced writer, but needed to make his letters\nlarger, and this suggests eye problems. Again, he says to the\nGalatians (4:13-15),\n\n + You know that it was because of a bodily ailment that I preached\n + the gospel to you at first; and although my condition was a trial\n + to you, you did not scorn or despise me, but received me as an\n + angel of God.... For I bear you witness that, if possible, you\n + would have plucked out your eyes and given them to me.\n\nPerhaps this last line means simply, \"You would have done anything\nfor me, not withholding your most precious possessions (your eyes).\"\nBut in that case, we would expect some wording like, \"If I had\nneeded them.\" \"If it were possible\" sounds as though the bodily\nailment was connected with his eyes.\n\nWilliam Barclay, in his volume on Acts, makes a more specific\nsuggestion.  Before Paul preached in the highlands of Galatia, he\nhad been preaching in the coastal areas of Asia Minor. If he had had\na malarial attack while there, a doctor would have advised him to\nleave the low country and head for the hills. Malaria might well\nhave given him both severe headaches and blurred vision.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":": \n: Hello\n: \n: I have problems combining two IDE hard disks\n: (Seagate ST3283A and Quantum LPS105A). As single hard disk both\n: are working fine, but connecting them together to my \n: controller doesn't work.\n: \n: My questions are:\n: \n: - Has anybody out there ever been succesful using such hard disks\n:   together and if so what jumper settings and BIOS settting did he\/she\n:   use?\n: \n: - Is it possible that my controller is the reason for my troubles ?\n:   The only thing I know about it is that it is an \n:   IDE-harddisk-controller. How many harddisks can such a controller\n:   control? In my case only one ?\n: \n: \n: Thanks in advance\n: \n: \tVolker\n: \nIDE drives have jumpers on them to indicate if it is a master or a slave.\nIf it is a master, then a second jumper indicates if a slave is present.\nThese must be set correctly according to each drive's manufacturers spec-\nification.  The CMOS setup is almost positively NOT the problem.  It is\nprobably not the controller - IDE controllers all support exactly two\ndrives maximum.  Check those jumpers.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nWhat is \"doing it right the first time\"?  Murdered them all?  Used tanks? \nMaybe they should have had enough evidence to indict.  From the list presented\nto date, I haven't seen ANYTHING illegal.  They claim that the BD's bought\ncomponents to convert their weapons to Class III devices, but no evidence that\nthey had done so.  In fact, with a Class III FFL living with them, this may\nhave been legal (given recent court rulings).\n\nWhat you really meant to say was that the ATF should have done the right and\nlwaful thing.  Or did you just want the BD's dead?","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"OK I posted this B4 but:","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\t+  I will put enmity between you [the Serpent] and the woman, and\n\t+ between your seed and her seed, she [can also be read he] shall\n\t+ crush your head and you shall bruise her [or his] heel.\n\t+ -Genesis 3.15\n\n   In the Hebrew of Genesis 3:15, the gender is clearly masculine.\n\n\t+ HE shall crush your head, and you shall bruise HIS heel.\n\n   The Latin has feminine forms, only by an accident of grammar.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"-------------------------------------\n\tApple \/\/e  System For Sale\n--------------------------------------\n\n\nApple \/\/e, enhanced, 65c02 CPU w\/64k on motherboard\nApple Extended 80-column card; expands memory to 128k total\n2 5.25\" Floppy Drives (Apple Disk ]['s) with Apple Controller Card\n1 3.5\" Floppy Drive (Apple UniDisk) with Apple Controller Card\nApple Monochrome Monitor\n2 Apple Super Serial Cards\n2400 Baud External modem\nOriginal documentation for all of the above\nProDOS & DOS 3.3 System software\nTalk is Cheap Communications software (original w\/ docs)\nIsys FORTH (original w\/ docs), fig-FORTH w\/ original docs.\nSuper Sunday Footbal game (original w\/ docs)\nTsushima Game (original w\/ docs)\nBooks: 6502 Systems Programming, Apple Graphics and Arcade\nGame Design, Apple Machine Language for Beginners.\n\t--- All for $250 (shipping is probably $20-$30 more)","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Directory PD1:<MSDOS.SYSUTL>\n Filename   Type Length   Date    Description\n==============================================\nCLKDEV14.ZIP  B   37122  910729  Keep DOS time in synch with battery clock chip\n\nAn index of all files in the WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil MS-DOS collection\nis available in two formats:\n\nDirectory PD1:<MSDOS.FILEDOCS>\n Filename   Type  Description\n==============================================\nSIMIBM.ZIP    B   Comma-delim list of all MSDOS files w\/descrip.\nSIMLIST.ZIP   B   Text format list of all MSDOS files w\/descrip.\n\nThese files are updated every 7-10 days.  See AAAREAD.ME in that\ndirectory for details. \n\nSIMTEL20 allows only nine ANONYMOUS FTP logins during weekday\nprime time, 5am to 3pm Mountain Time (GMT-7), but 27 otherwise.\n\nSIMTEL20 files are also available by anonymous ftp from mirror sites\nOAK.Oakland.Edu (141.210.10.117), wuarchive.wustl.edu (128.252.135.4),\narchive.orst.edu (128.193.2.13), ftp.uu.net (137.39.1.9), nic.funet.fi\n(128.214.6.100), src.doc.ic.ac.uk (146.169.3.7), nic.switch.ch\n(130.59.1.40), archie.au (139.130.4.6), NCTUCCCA.edu.tw (140.111.3.21),\nby e-mail through the BITNET\/EARN file servers, or by uucp from UUNET's\n1-900-GOT-SRCS.  See UUNET file uunet!~\/info\/archive-help for details.\n\nOAK.Oakland.Edu is the primary mirror site for WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil.\nAll other mirrors (except wuarchive) and all LISTSERV and TRICKLE\nservers get their SIMTEL20 files from OAK instead of SIMTEL20 because\nit is much faster and allows more simultaneous ftp connections.  OAK is\nalways \"in sync\" with SIMTEL20 because I maintain it, in addition to my\nduties at SIMTEL20.  I run OAK's mirror program whenever new files are\nadded at SIMTEL20.\n\nMSDOS-Ann@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil is a ONE-WAY (moderated) mailing list\nwhich is used by the Internet MS-DOS archive managers to announce new\nadditions to their collections. \n\nThe announcements posted to this mailing list are also posted to Usenet\nnewsgroup comp.archives.msdos.announce.  If your host has Usenet News\nplease do not subscribe to MSDOS-Ann.\n\nTo add yourself to the mailing list send e-mail to\nlistserv@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil with this command in the\nbody of the message:\n\n    subscribe msdos-ann\n\nTo subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from,\nsuch as a local redistribution list, then add that address to the\n\"subscribe\" command; for example, to subscribe \"local-msdos-ann\":\n\n    subscribe local-msdos-ann@your.domain.net msdos-ann\n\nPlease do not include a signature because it may confuse the server.\nSend mail with the word  help  in the body of the message to get a\ncomplete list of commands and their syntax.\n\nIf you later change your mind and wish to unsubscribe, send e-mail\nfrom the same address where you were when you subscribed.  Send to\nlistserv@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil with this command in the body of the\nmessage:\n\nunsubscribe msdos-ann\n\nThis server is only for mailing lists and information files.  It will\nnot send program files. \n\nKeith","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I heard that the magic date for price drop in a number of Apple products\nwill\nbe \nJune 30th.  Can anyone second this rumour?\n-- \nA motion picture major at the Brooks Institute of Photography, CA\nSanta Barbara and a foreign student from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"4\/23\/93    BLUES SHUTOUT HAWKS AGAIN, LEAD SERIES 3-0\n-----------------------------------------------------\nIt was a great atmosphere last night at the St. Louis Arena as Joseph and\nthe Blues shutout the Hawks for the second consecutive game. People were\ncheering the Blues long before face-off time, and they kept going for the\nentire game. My friends and I went out celebrating until the early morning\nhours with some of the players. Here's a game summary from the St. Louis\nPost-Disptach. Enjoy...\n\nBy Dave Luecking\nOf The Post-Dispatch Staff:\n\nAt 10:24 p.m. Friday night, The Arena crowd of 17,965 paid homage to Blues\ngoalie Curtis Joseph. The fans began bowing, their arms extended, taking the\nthe lead from a fan who held a sign that read ``Only God Saves More Than\nJoseph.\"  It was a fitting tribute to Joseph, who has brought the Blues to\nthe verge of a surprising sweep.\n\nJoseph recorded his second successive shutout Friday, blanking the Blackhawks\n3-0 in Game 3 of the Norris Division semifinals and giving the Blues a 3-0\nlead in the best-of-seven series.\n\nThe Blackhawks haven't scored against Joseph since the 8:51 mark of the second\nperiod of Game 1. Joseph has shut out the Blackhawks for 151 minutes 9 seconds,\na Blues record. Jacques Plante held the previous record of 146:28, set in the\nfirst round of the 1969 playoffs against the Philadelphia Flyers, one of only\ntwo series the Blues have sweeped in their history.\n\nThe Blues can wrap up their first sweep since 1969 with a victory in Game 4,\na nationally televised game that begins at noon Sunday. The Blues have had\nonly two sweeps in franchise history, both in 1969, when they swept\nPhiladelphia and Los Angeles en route to the Stanley Cup finals.\n\nThe shutout Friday was easier than on Wednesday in Game 2 when Joseph had to\nmake 47 saves. This time, the Blues held the shots down to 34, and the\nBlackhawks couldn't touch Joseph.\n\nWell, they touched Joseph, numerous times, shoving him and pushing him at \nevery opportunity to try to get him off his game. But Joseph and the Blues\nwere unfazed, dishing out their own punishment along the way.\n\nThe Blues' grinders -- Bob Bassen, Rich Sutter, Kevin Miller and Dave Lowry --\nwore down the Blackhawks, taking the visitors from Chicago off their game.\nThe grinders set the stage for the glamour boys, the gifted playmakers and\nscorers, who made the most of their opportunities.\n\nCraig Janney, Brett Hull and Nelson Emerson scored, getting one goal in each\nperiod. Hull assisted on Janney's first-period power play goal after two unwise\nChicago penalties. Checker Miller set up Hull's goal in the second period, and\nrookie Denny Felsner assisted for Emerson, who scored at 16:44 of the final \nperiod.\n\nBlues fans jumped to their feet in celebration of that goal and began yelling\n``Sweep. Sweep. Sweep.\" They also taunted Chicago goalie Ed Belfour \n``Bell-Four. Bell-Four.\" They also chanted ``Na, na-na-na, hey-hey good bye.\"\n\nSuch talk is a tad premature. There's still one game left, but the Blues are\non a roll. They have the Blackhawks on their heels.\n\nThe Blues set the tone early on Friday with two crunching hits in the first\nminute of play. Rich Sutter leveled Bryan Marchment, and Brendan Shanahan\ndumped Steve Smith at center ice.\n\nChicago tried to retaliate, but Troy Murray's decision to run into Joseph\nbackfired. Referee Dan Marouelli gave him a roughing penalty.\n\nThe Blues didn't get a shot on goal on the power play, and they survived a\nscare after Chicago killed the penalty when Rick Zombo gave the puck away to\nSteve Larmer. Joseph stopped Larmer's shot and everything else Chicago threw\nat him in the first period. The 'Hawks ignored the scouting report on Joseph\nabout shooting high and continued to shoot low, where Joseph's butterfly\nstyle is deadly.\n\nRookie Bret Hedican picked up three consecutive penalties midway through the\nperiod -- two for hooking and one for holding -- but Chicago got only two\nshots on goal, as many as Miller. The Blues' penalty killer twice stole the\npuck and just missed on good scoring chances against Belfour.\n \nMarouelli began calling penalties on the Blackhawks to even things up.\nHe caught Brent Sutter hooking Shanahan four seconds after Hedican's third\npenalty. He called Marchment for elbowing Janney along the boards at 14:58,\nand gave the Blues a two-man advantage 1:07 later when Christian Ruuttu\nslashed Shanahan.\n\nThe Blues worked around the puck on the ensuing power play, and Hull got it\nwhere he likes it -- in the high slot. Hull's shot hit Belfour's right\nshoulder, and the puck bounced precariously close to the goal line. Belfour\ndived back to cover, but the puck squirted loose to Janney, who poked it into\nthe net at 16:53 for his first goal of the playoffs.\n\nThe Blues continued their relentless hitting as the period ended, and the\nBlackhawks lost their composure. Joe Murphy tripped Ron Wilson with two seconds\nremaining in the period, and after time had expired Smith upset the Blues by\nshooting the puck into the Blues' bench.\n\nChris Chelios made a move toward Joseph as the teams left the ice, and\nMarouelli slapped him with a 10-minute misconduct. Chicago survived the Blues'\npower play, but the loss of Chelios hurt. He didn't return until the midway\npoint of the period, and within three minutes of his return, Hull had increased\nthe Blues' lead to 2-0, deflecting in Miller's crisp pass.\n\nTry as they might, the Blackhawks couldn't get to Joseph, who stopped\neverything they could throw at him. He stopped 12 shots in the second period\nand 13 more in the third. Chicago also hit the goalpost twice.\n\nEmerson's goal put the game away. He went hard to the net and redirected\nFelsner's pass.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nTwo safeguards:\n\n1. The FBI could be asked to produce the law enforcement block to the escrow\nagencies, and associate it with a particular court order;\n\n2. If the thing comes to trial the defense attorneys can probe this issue\nclosely. It is not too different from proving that the speaker on a legal\nwiretap is the person the court order covered.\n\nPutting it another way, this question is not very different from the\npre-clipper question \"What's to prevent the FBI from getting a court order\nto tap Al Capone and then using it to tap Jonathan Livingstone Seagull\ninstead?\"\n\nDavid","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nYes, atheists tend to claim self control and self ownership. Are you saying\nthat theists claim to not have self control? I don't think atheists are\n\"dominantly arrogant.\" They don't claim some god that has supremacy over\nall of mankind. Now this claim would be arrogant, but atheists don't claim \nit. Most atheists do claim to own themselves. I think any disagreement with\nthis claim of self ownership would be supremely arrogant.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Iuj el \".ie\" (kiu lando?) demandis pri \"bitmap\"-oj, kaj iu el\n\".fi\" (Finnlando) respondis, dirante pri libro en \"Software Development\nKit\".  Eble, la demandinto *ne* havas la \"elvolvilo por malmol-varoj\".\n\n     (That was Esperanto.)\n\n     (Some from \".ie\" asked about bitmaps, and some from \".fi\" responded,\nsaying about a book int the \"Software Development Kit\".  Possibly, the\nasker does *not* have the development kit.)","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nYeah, but these were not the wives.  The wives came from Nod, apparently\na land being developed by another set of gods.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\nFor what it's worth, I got my can in three days from Chaparral. That's\nUPS ground from CA to UT, YMMV. The stuff seems to work, and it doesn't\nattract grundge like PJ-1 Blue does. I gave it the acid test, a full\nday's worth of breaking in the Quadracer's new paddle tires down at the\nsand dunes. If there's anything wet & stickey it will be coated with\nsand at the end of the day, but the chain looked pretty clean.\n\nAs far as mail-order goes, if Chaparral has it in stock (and they can\ntell you if it's in stock, or about how long it will take to back-order\nit if it's not), I usually get it in three days. Competition Accessories\nalways seems to take a week or two to deliver. Motorcycle Accessory\nWarehouse also takes a week or two, and after trying to buy some boots\nfrom them last week, I don't think they actually stock anything. MAW was\nabout $30 cheaper than Chaparral on Alpinestars Tech 7 boots, but on\nMonday I was hoping to get them by the end of the week, so I asked MAW a\ncompletely unreasonable question: \"Do you have them in stock?\" The\nconversation went something like this:\n\nI need to know if you have some boots in stock.\n\n\tDo you want to pay with Visa or Mastercard?\n\nI want to know if you have them in stock.\n\n\tWell, the computer doesn't show anything, I'd have to call the\n\tdistributer to find out if we have them.\n\nSo do you have them or not?\n\n\tDon't you understand what I'm saying? I have to call our\n\tdistributer to find out if we have them in stock or not.\n\nUh, right. So can you do it?\n\n\tYea, call me back in an hour, and ask for Phil.\n\nSo an hour later Phil isn't there, but Mike says he'll check, and call\nhim back in half an hour. Half an hour later Mike isn't there either,\nbut he left a note that says they'll have them by the end of the month\n(3 weeks away). Screw it, the 30 bucks isn't worth the hassle. I called\nChaparral and asked if they had them in stock:\n\n\tOoh, Alpinestars? Probably not, they are hard to keep in stock,\n\tbut I'll check. What size?\n\nSize 10.\n\n\tLet's see, yes! Size 10, in blue & white, gray & white, black...\n\nI'll take the blacks!\n\nThis was about noon on Monday, they arrived Thursday morning. Once\nagain, three days via UPS ground. I _like_ Chaparral.\n\nI'm not completely down on MAW, they often have lower prices, but be\nprepared to wait.\n\nOh, and if anyone's in the market for sand tires and other ATV stuff,\nScorcher seems like a good outfit, friendly, fast, had the tires I\nwanted in stock, and were cheaper than Chaparral too.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Tippman 68 Special Semi-Auto Rifle\n120 round feeder\n18 inch barrel - composite\n14 inch barrel - composite\n6 inch barrel - composite\n20oz CO2 tank \nsilencer\n1200 rounds of paint\nplus whatever else I have in the box.\n\n\nall this for $375 or best offer\n\n\n  ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nI don't believe you, and I don't believe your friend.\n\nWhy? \n\nBecause DES is not known to have any known plaintext attacks readily\navailble. Unless your friend knows something and is keeping it secret,\nhe was bullshitting you.\n\nNow, it IS possible that he noted a weakness in the *implementation* of\nthe Kerberos protocol. For instance, using a weak RNG to generate keys\nmight cut down on the keyspace (not for the user keys -- for the other\nkind who's name I can't remember). However, this is not what was\nclaimed. You are claiming a general weakness in DES, which is not\nknown to exist in the open literature.\n\nDon't get me wrong -- DES is weaker than it should be. However,\ncracking it in 15 minutes requires more money be spent on the cracking\nmachine than ANY organization I know of has available.\n\n--\nPerry Metzger\t\tpmetzger@shearson.com","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nThe Phillies finished third 2 years ago.\n\n\nThe Phillies' opponents haven't hit much better","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I need information on the medical (including emotional :-) pros and\ncons of circumcision (at birth).  I am especially interested in\nreferences to studies that indicate disadvantages or refute studies\nthat indicate advantages.  A friend who is a medical student is\nwriting a survey paper, and apparently the studies she has run into\nare all for circumcision, the main argument being a lower risk of\npenile cancer.\n\nPlease email responses as I am not a frequent reader of either group.\nI will summarize to the net.\n\n******************************************************************\n* Gunnar Blix      * Good advice is one of those insults that    *\n* blix@cs.uiuc.edu * ought to be forgiven.              -Unknown *\n******************************************************************","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nYou can design for ramp shutoff, brick-wall current limit or even \nfold-back cutoff....sounds like you want \"BRICK-WALL\" current limit.\n\nYour lead is correct to pull down the bias to the series regulator base \ndrive. In order to get the brick -wall, you need enough voltage gain on \nthe current sensor.  Normally a darlington on the current sensing \nresistor will be adequate, but for infinite gain.. use an op amp to sense \nthe current releative to a stable voltage reference and use a driver to \nturn off the base bias on the series-pass transistor.  Phase compensation \nmay be necessary with this closed loop control system if yopu have more \nthan 180 degrees phase shift in your feedabck circuit at unity gain OK??","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Posted for a friend...\n\nAll in brand new condition ( less than 2 years old)\n\nFull size bed - mattress, box spring, frame $135\n\nWhite night table - 2 drawer (15x21) $60\n\nWhite dresser - 6 drawer plus mirror (54x18) x 32\" HEIGHT $170\n\nWhite pantry - $35\n\nEntertainment center - natural wood color $55\n\nCoffee table - glass top and base (48x22) $135\n\nTwo white floor lamps - $15 each\n\nOne foldable table 36x36 $8\n\nFour foldable chairs $5 each","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n\nActually I am not sure you have understood what I have said. On several\noccasions a minor party has put up an Arab for a Cabinet position. That\nis the major party (Labour in this case) has agreed that a minor party\ncan have so many seats and that party nominates an Arab for one. This is\nnot acceptable to the major party which insists on the minor party\nappointing a Jew. The favours owed, deals done, have all been settled.\nWhat remains is exactly who is going to sit in Cabinet. The party that\ngets the seat wants an Arab but that is not acceptable. This *is* racism.\nIt has nothing to do with politics at all.\n\nJoseph Askew\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nI agree that Keenan is an excellent choice.  Did you see Mike\nLupica's column in Sunday's news?  My sentiments exactly.  I\nthink he just may be the one to instill some hunger and fire\ninto their hearts next season.  Either that or he's going to \nbe kicking alot of butt!\n\n\nI'm here, but am new to this group and have been keeping fairly\nquiet (you know, doing the \"lurking\" thing).  I don't have a\nsense how many Rangers fans there are on the list either.  I \nam a die-hard Ranger fan (I guess I have to be - I sat in the\nGarden throughout the Penguins' - led by Mario's 5 goals - decimation \nof them on 4\/9), but am sick at the abundance of talent that has\nbeen totally untapped, and the lack of heart displayed this\nseason.\n\n\nHurlbut was injured for quite a while.  I'm not sure, but I\nthink he may have recovered in time for the playoff run, and\nif so, like you, question why he wasn't used.\n\n\nI believe Kocur was used, in many instances, for his intimidation \nfactor.  Granted, he seemed to get an awful lot of ice time for \nthat reason alone, but you have to realize that when a team is\nnot doing any REAL physical intimidation (I'd like to have a nickel \nfor every time J.D. said 'They've got to take the body more'), \nyou've got to at least have some illusions ;-(\n\n\nI agree and I don't know.\n\n\nSorry, I don't agree with you here.  I think Joey C. did a good\njob filling in when he was asked to.  I can't imagine that it's\neasy going from near 0 ice time to being a full timer.  I don't\nseem to remember him turning the puck over at the blue line too\nmuch, or failing to clear the zone.  He worked hard, and at\nleast didn't make any rookie mistakes.  As he said himself in an\ninterview, he can only give what he has.  and he did.  \n\n\nAbsolutely.  I think attendance at the Garden was better on the\nlast day of the season, than any average night for the\nIslanders.\n\n\nThe man is awesome.  In a way, I'm enjoying the playoffs more,\nnow that the Rangers aren't in them.  I can really appreciate\nall the glory Mario is getting without 'hating' him because he's\non the opposing team.  He deserves it all, as far as I'm\nconcerned.\n\n\t\t- Mary","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I have a 286 with a Western Digital WD-93044A hard drive. This drive is \n782 cylinders with 4 read write heads PHYSICALLY, but LOGICALLY it is\n977 cylinders with 5 read write heads (??!!).  In the CMOS setting\nI am instructed to set it to type 17 (IBM 977 cyl. 5 read\/write heads),\n\nTHE PROBLEM:  I was sent Western Digitals ISPFMT low level program from\nthe manufacturer, and was instructed to run it on the hard drive with\nthe CMOS setting set to type 17.  This worked \"o.k.\" and I verified the\ndisk using the same program.  I then reloaded DOS which did a high\nlevel format, again no errors, no bad sectors, etc.\n\nBUT.... when I run Norton Speedisk 6.01 (or any other disk optimizer)\nwith the verify option set ON, I get ERROR verifying sector NNNN,\nwhere NNNN can be any number (not the same all the time).\n\nANY IDEAS AS TO WHAT IS GOING ON HERE WOULD BE APPRECIATED!\n\nThank you!","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nGreat, someone will be posting from 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion' next\n\n\nAt this time the PLO did not exist and would not for the next 20 years.\nYou knew that didn't you? Perhaps you might want to add up all the Jewish\ncivilians killed during the 48 War. I'll opt for the massacre at Deir Yassin.\nWhich do you think is the greater?\n\n\nWhile we are talking about this man I have included more of his testimony\nthat Harry naturally does not use nor does Myths and Facts. I wonder why.\nNo doubt he was lying right Harry?\n\n                \"The reason was mainly economic. That is\n                 to capture booty in order to maintain\n                 the bases which we had then established\n                 with very poor resources. The main idea,\n                 despite this, remained the conquest of\n                 the village by force of arms, something\n                 which was then unknown in the country,\n                 and became a turning point in Jewish\n                 military operations\"\n\n                 Yehuda Lapidot, Jabontinsky Archives Testimony\n\n                 \"Apart from the military discussion, the\n                  Lehi put forward a proposal to liqui-\n                  date the residents of the village after\n                  the conquest, in order to show the Arabs\n                  what happens when the IZL and the Lehi\n                  set out together on an operation, and for\n                  another main reason - it would cause a\n                  great uproar throughout the land and\n                  would be an important turning point in\n                  the course of the battles. The clear aim\n                  was to break the Arab morale and raise\n                  somewhat the morale of the Jewish commu-\n                  nity in Jerusalem, which had been hit\n                  hard time after time, especially recenctly\n                  by the desecration of Jewish bodies which\n                  fell into Arab hands\"\n\n                  Yehuda Lapidot, Jabotinsky Archives\n                  testimony as quoted by Yisrael Segal in\n                  \"The Deir Yassin File\", published by\n                  Koteret Rashit 19th January 1983\n\nSo it wasn't like the Holocaust more like Lidice - a warning, a punishment.\nCollective and inflicted on unarmed innocents just not as through.\n\n                 \"When it comes to prisoners, old people\n                  and children, there were differences\n                  of opinion, but the majority was for\n                  liquidation of all the men in the village\n                  and any other force that opposed us,\n                  whether it be old people, women or children\n\n                  Benzion Cohen\n                  Commander of the attack on Deir Yassin,\n                  (J.A.T.)\n\nLet me put in some words here\n                a. premeditated\n                b. murder\nWhat do you say about the eyewitness testimony of the man in command?\n\n                 \"We had prisoners and before the retreat\n                  we decided to liquidate them. We also\n                  liquidated the wounded, as anyway we could\n                  not give them first aid. In one place\n                  about eighty Arab prisoners were killed\n                  after some of them had opened fire and\n                  killed one of the people who came to give\n                  them first aid. Arabs who dressed up\n                  as Arab women were also found, and so\n                  they started to shoot the women also who\n                  did not hurry to the area where the\n                  prisoners were concentrated\"\n\n                  (J.A.T.)\n\nShooting prisoners, the wounded, as a warning to hurry? Sounds VERY\nfamiliar to me, how about you? Heard of other people other places doing\nthese things?\n\n                 \"In one case - the Zahran family - only\n                  one out of twenty five survived. In\n                  another house they caught the sixteen\n                  year old son Fuad. His mother was holding\n                  him. They killed him with a knife. The\n                  mother spent twenty years after that in\n                  a mental hospital. A young woman and her\n                  two year old baby were shot in the\n                  street. Their bodies were left there.\n                  They moved to the centre of the village\n                  and started to kill everybody they saw or\n                  heard, as soon as anybody opened his\n                  door. They were using bombs [grenades],\n                  machine-guns, submachine-guns. My cousin\n                  escaped with bullet-holes in his clothes.\n                  One of the officers put his machinegun\n                  through a window and started shooting\n                  outwards, killing everybody who moved.\n                  They killed my uncle, Ali Hassan Zeidan,\n                  and my aunt Fatima. She heard him call\n                  'help me'. She ran to him and they killed\n                  her. Another neighbour Haj Yarah,\n                  heard some voices and came out. They killed\n                  him too. His son Muhammad, who was\n                  about seventeen, heard his father call\n                  him and went to the same place. They\n                  killed him. His mother heard her son cry\n                  for help. She ran out and they killed\n                  her. That was near my house. I saw this\"\n\n                  Muhammad Arif Sammour\n\nFunny how 'Myths and Facts' does not see fit to include this too - after all\nif he is reliable enough to report casualties why not the actual events? What\ndo you say about this Harry?\n\n                 \"In the exchange that followed four men\n                  were killed and a dozen were wounded..\n                  ..by noon time the battle was over and\n                  the shooting had ceased. Although there\n                  was a calm, the village had not yet surrendered.\n                  The Irgun and Lehi men came\n                  out of hiding and began to 'clean' the houses.\n                  They shot whoever they saw, women\n                  and children included, the commanders did\n                  not try and stop the massacre...I\n                  pleaded with the commander to order his\n                  men to cease fire, but to no avail. In\n                  the meantime twenty five Arabs had been\n                  loaded on a truck and driven through\n                  Mahane-Yehuda and Zichron Yosef. At the\n                  end of the drive, they were taken to\n                  the quarry bvetween Deir Yassin and Givat\n                  Shaul, and murdered in cold blood\"\n\n                  Meir Pa'il, interview with Yediot Ahronot 4|4|1972\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nUnfortunately, that is the way the league is heading... You can't fight,\nso the only way to retaliate against someone is with a cheap shot when\nthe ref isn't looking. Ulf has brought this to a high level... Players\nstuck in the past (like Neely) who prefer fights to cheap shots\nare at a disadvantage in the new system.\n\nLets face it, A cheap shot (like high sticking) is a very effective\nmethod... It is easier to hide from the refs, has a better chance of\ncausing injury, and you can draw people into fights that way. I don't\nlike it, but that's the way the league is going.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"*** On 04-21-93  04:51, Ikos had the unmitigated gall to say this:\n\n Ik> I'm in the market to upgrade my BIOS to a Phoenix 1.10 (got a new hard\n Ik> disk, discovered my BIOS doesn't have a \"type 47\") and I would like\n Ik> know where I can purchase one of these things.\n\nCall Phoenix.  They can put you on line with replacement BIOS chips.  I had\nto do this when I upgraded a Emerson 386\/20 to an IDE drive.\n\nAlso, if you are installing an IDE drive, and there is a BIOS setting that\nhas a total volume the same as the IDE drive's volume, try using it.  The\nIDE drive can usually respond to a variety of different geometries, as long\nas the setting that you use is equal to or smaller than the drive's actual\nsize.  The controller will do the necessary translation automatically, in\nmost cases.\n\nWARNING!!!  Do not use a BIOS setting that is even one byte larger than the\nactual size of the drive!  A smaller setting will not harm the drive, but\nyou will be sorry if you go even one byte over.  Drive damage will not\nresult, but headaches will!\n\n... Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic\n--- Blue Wave\/QWK v2.10\n                                     ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I need recommendations on imaging workstations. As a minimum, I have the\nfollowing requirements:\n\n- High resolution graphics (Black and white) for display of Fax images.\n- Support the display of multiple simulataneous windows:\n     Fax image, 3270 emulation window to IBM host, etc...\n- High speed network interface for 3270, image data, etc...\n     (16Mb Token ring, EtherNet, etc...)\n- Mouse\n\n\nAny information\/experience would be appreciated.\n\nThanks,\n\n\ncar.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\nI am running X11R4 on an IBM RS\/6000 (AIX 3.2) and X11R5 on a Sun4 (SunOS 4.1).\n\nSince I run X on both colour and black&white displays, I need different\nvalues for the same resource, so I want to use #ifdef COLOR in my\napplication defaults files. However, cpp is only invoked by xrdb, and\nnot when the resources are loaded on demand.\n\nIs there a proper solution to this?\n\nSo far, the only proper solution I've come to think of, is to create 2\ndifferent files in my ~\/app-defaults\/, say XTerm and XTerm-color, and\nset my XFILESEARCHPATH to either $HOME\/%T\/%N or $HOME\/%T\/%N-color.\nBut that does not always seem to work (e.g. executing a remote shell\ncommand without reading the .cshrc does not set XFILESEARCHPATH).\n\nFurthermore, I thought of using #include \"XTerm\" in XTerm-color.\nHowever, for resources in XTerm that I want to override in XTerm-color,\nthings are different on both machines. On a Sun, the FIRST found resource\nis used (i.e. the one from XTerm, the b&w one), while on an RS\/6000, the\nLAST found value is used (i.e. the one from XTerm-color). What can I do\nabout it?\n\nI have one last question: for the specification of XFILESEARCHPATH, I\ncan use %T, %N, %C and %S. %T stands for app-defaults, %N for the\nresource class, but what do %C and %S stand for?\n\nThanks in advance for replying,\nMarcel.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nOut and out lie.  Not substantiated. I do not understand statments\nlike these. Please stop making such ridiculous claims.  Maybe you\nshould consider working for or getting your information from the\nNational Inquirer for now on.\n\n\nAhh!  Rabbit from a hat.  Here is another desperate step to discount\nany activity of the Washington Gay March.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nSorry, but yes he does, by your own description.\n\n\nHumorous, this notion of an all-knowing, all-powerful god who must\n\"attempt\" to \"reconcile\" with his lowly creations.  I realize that it\nis not possible to penetrate such logic, but is there any chance that\nyou might consider that an omnipotent god need not \"attempt\" anything,\nand further that an attempt to \"reconcile\" implies a lack of\nomniscience?\n\nWhat you are doing here is projecting human weaknesses onto your god.\n\n\n\nBut all humans are sinners, thus all pre-Jesus humans should have been\npunished with death.  We aren't punished with sin now, of course,\nbecause God has changed.  He required a brutal, sadistic sacrifice of\nhis own blood in order to allow us to sin without immediate death.  \n\n\nYet he does so now.  He has changed.  The sadistic murder of his own\nson has made him more tolerant of our sins.\n\nBesides, his \"midst\" is everywhere, so your statement is meaningless.\nHe tolerates sin in Hell, which surely is in his midst as well.  Also,\ngiven that he is all-knowing, he must have eternal knowledge of who\nwill commit which sins, as well as when and where, so what does\ntolerance have to do with anything.  All of this is absolute nonsense,\nunless your god is not indeed all-knowing and all-powerful, or unless\nhe doesn't take the personal interest in everyday affairs that you\nclaim.\n\n\nNot relevant.  The claim of kindness and lovingness was made by you in\nreference to your god.  The nature of his creations\/victims is not at\nissue.\n\n\nI see: an all-knowing god who did not know what the ultimate outcome\nwould be, and an all-powerful god who had no choice in the matter.\nMindmush.\n\n\nDid I miss something?  Did you give some indication at to why a KIND\nand LOVING god should require sadistic human sacrifice to allow his\nown botched creations to \"achieve salvation\"?\n\n\n \nI note that your answer physically follows my question, but I fail to\ndiscern a connection between the two.\n\nBy the way, for what am I being consoled?\n\n\n\nWhy not?  By the way, I note for the record that you didn't answer the\nquestions. \n\n\nDeath and\/or eternal damnation is your idea of correctional\npunishment?  I hope you aren't a parent.\n\n\nThis is quite an elaborate fantasy that you've constructed, but sadly\nit lacks a basis in reality.  It also does not address the questions\nthat I raised.\n\n\nThe god that you describe is not a good parent, but a tyrant.\n\n\nSorry, was that the god of the Bible whose rules I am to follow, or\nthe god of the Koran?  The Vedas?  The Book of Koresh?  Oh, yes, it's\nall so clear.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nTypical.  Their first attempt at foriegn-policy adventurism, and no one even\nnotices.\n\nCanadians.  They can even make balkanization boring.\n\n\n-- ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nAh, so you admit newborns are innocent?  Then you cannot say _everyone_ is a\nsinner.\n\nAbout the only way top get out of this one is to claim that a newborn is a\nsinner despite having not committed any sins, which is rather odd.\n--\n\"On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Leftover Turkey!\nOn the second day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Turkey Casserole\n    that she made from Leftover Turkey.\n[days 3-4 deleted] ...  Flaming Turkey Wings! ...\n   -- Pizza Hut commercial (and M*tlu\/A*gic bait)","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":": >\n: >I think you're letting atheist mythology confuse you on the issue of\n\n: (WEBSTER:  myth:  \"a traditional or legendary story...\n:            ...a belief...whose truth is accepted uncritically.\")\n\n: How does that qualify?\n: Indeed, it's almost oxymoronic...a rather amusing instance.\n: I've found that most atheists hold almost no atheist-views as\n: \"accepted uncritically,\" especially the few that are legend.\n: Many are trying to explain basic truths, as myths do, but\n: they don't meet the other criterions.\n\nAndrew,\n\nThe myth to which I refer is the convoluted counterfeit athiests have\ncreated to make religion appear absurd. Rather than approach religion\n(including Christainity) in a rational manner and debating its claims\n-as the are stated-, atheists concoct outrageous parodies and then\nhold the religious accountable for beliefs they don't have. What is\nmore accurately oxymoric is the a term like, reasonable atheist.\n\nBill\n\n: >Divine justice. According to the most fundamental doctrines of\n: >Christianity, When the first man sinned, he was at that time the\n\n: You accuse him of referencing mythology, then you procede to\n: launch your own xtian mythology.  (This time meeting all the\n: requirements of myth.)\n \nHere's a good example of of what I said above. Read the post again, I\nsaid, \"Acoording to ...\", which means I am referring to Christian\ndoctrine (as I understand it), if I am speaking for myself you'll know\nit. My purpose in posting was to present a basic overview of Christain\ndoctrines since it seemed germane.\n\nBill\n\n: >with those who pretend not to know what is being said and what it\n: >means. When atheists claim that they do -not- know if God exists and\n: >don't know what He wants, they contradict the Bible which clearly says\n: >that -everyone- knows. The authority of the Bible is its claim to be\n\n: ...should I repeat what I wrote above for the sake of getting\n: it across?  You may trust the Bible, but your trusting it doesn't\n: make it any more credible to me.\n: If the Bible says that everyone knows, that's clearly reason\n: to doubt the Bible, because not everyone \"knows\" your alleged\n: god's alleged existance.\n\nAgain I am paraphrasing Christian doctrine which is very clear on this\npoint, your dispute is not with me ...\n\nBill\n\n: >refuted while the species-wide condemnation is justified. Those that\n: >claim that there is no evidence for the existence of God or that His will is\n: >unknown, must deliberately ignore the Bible; the ignorance itself is\n: >no excuse.\n\n: 1) No, they don't have to ignore the Bible.  The Bible is far\n: from universally accepted.  The Bible is NOT a proof of god;\n: it is only a proof that some people have thought that there\n: was a god.  (Or does it prove even that?  They might have been\n: writing it as series of fiction short-stories.  As in the\n: case of Dionetics.)  Assuming the writers believed it, the\n: only thing it could possibly prove is that they believed it.\n: And that's ignoring the problem of whether or not all the\n: interpretations and Biblical-philosophers were correct.\n\n: 2) There are people who have truly never heard of the Bible.\n\n: 3) Again, read the FAQ.\n\n1) Here again you miss the point. The Bible itself is not the point,\nit's what it contains. It makes no difference who accpets the Bible or\neven who's unaware of its existence, Christians hold that it applies\nuniversally because mankind shares the same nature and the same fate\nand the same innate knowledge of God.\n\n2) See above\n\n3) If you read my post with same care as read the FAQ, we wouldn't be\nhaving this conversation.\n\nBill\n\n: >freedom. You are free to ignore God in the same way you are free to\n: >ignore gravity and the consequences are inevitable and well known\n: >in both cases. That an atheist can't accept the evidence means only\n\n: Bzzt...wrong answer!\n: Gravity is directly THERE.  It doesn't stop exerting a direct and\n: rationally undeniable influence if you ignore it.  God, on the\n: other hand, doesn't generally show up in the supermarket, except\n: on the tabloids.  God doesn't exert a rationally undeniable influence.\n: Gravity is obvious; gods aren't.\n\nAs I said, the evidence is there, you just don't accept it, here at\nleast we agree.\n\nBill\n\n: >Secondly, human reason is very comforatble with the concept of God, so\n: >much so that it is, in itself, intrinsic to our nature. Human reason\n: >always comes back to the question of God, in every generation and in\n\n: No, human reason hasn't always come back to the existance of\n: \"God\"; it has usually come back to the existance of \"god\".\n: In other words, it doesn't generally come back to the xtian\n: god, it comes back to whether there is any god.  And, in much\n: of oriental philosophic history, it generally doesn't pop up as\n: the idea of a god so much as the question of what natural forces\n: are and which ones are out there.  From a world-wide view,\n: human nature just makes us wonder how the universe came to\n: be and\/or what force(s) are currently in control.  A natural\n: tendancy to believe in \"God\" only exists in religious wishful\n: thinking.\n\nYes, human reason does always come back to the existence of God, we're\nhaving this discussion are we not?\n\nBill\n\n: >I said all this to make the point that Christianity is eminently\n: >reasonable, that Divine justice is just and human nature is much\n: >different than what atheists think it is. Whether you agree or not\n\n: YOU certainly are not correct on human nature.  You are, at\n: the least, basing your views on a completely eurocentric\n: approach.  Try looking at the outside world as well when\n: you attempt to sum up all of humanity.\n\nWell this is interesting, Truth is to be determined by it politically\ncorrect content. Granted it's extremely unhip to be a WASP male, and\nanything European is contemptable, but I thought this kind of\ndialogue, the purpose of a.a, was to get at the truth of things. But\nthen I remember the oxymoron, reasonalble atheist, and I understand.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nNope.  Flames should be *interesting*.  Around here, guns & helmets\nare the wallpaper.\n\n\nNot everyone in rec.motoland is so easily amused.  Blaine, as an Elder,\nhas seen the Superflamers at their peaks (or depths, if you prefer).  \nWith that sort of incendiary backdrop, awarding your faltering Bic a\n0.5 was the purest act of charity.\n\n\nUnless, of course, your audience has only seen several thousand similarly\nuninspiring attempts in this arena.  In that case, the trite & boring\nthreshold tends to drift away from where you first set it, as yours will,\neventually (or not).\n\n\nUntil you can yank the flame out of Blaine's Internet Port before he\ncan io_close() it, you are in no position to lecture him, grasshopper.\n\n\nOh please (yawn), you're slipping further down the scale with each\nsuccessive attempt.  It's so embarrassing to watch.   Say, you're not\nfrom Waco, are you?","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nWiggins, Alan?\n\nBut that's besides the point.  I'm sure people would feel slightly\nsympathetic for Rickey if he were killed.  But, they would also be\ncriticizing him a lot more for his actions.\n\nExample?  \n\nHow about Jose Canseco?  He gets a couple of speeding tickets, and all\nof the sudden his attitude is awful.  What the hell do speeding tickets\nhave to do with clubhouse influence anyway?  So why do sportswriters\ntalk about it all the time.\n\nOr Brian Hunter and Keith Mitchell?  Both of whom had DWI problems\ntowards the end of last year.  (Two years ago?)  It was cited as a sign\nof their immaturity, etc.  \n\nMeanwhile, Dykstra almost killed both himself and Daulton, and I didn't\nread any sportswriter complaining about that.  They may have talked\nabout how bad it was for the Phillies, but I NEVER read anywhere\ncriticism of Dykstra's character (or Daulton's intelligence, for that\nmatter) based on this incident.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nThe problem with turing your computer on and off constantly is not due to\nthe power surge at start up.  It is due to thermal fatigue.  You turn on\nyour computer, it heats up, and everything expands.  You turn it off, it\ncools off, and everything contracts.  There is a limited number of cycles\nof this that any component can take before it fails.  Modern electronics\nare much more robust in this respect than their predeccesors.  In fact\nportable computers are designed with this in mind since the sleep function\nthat extends battery life also greatly increaces the number of thermal\ncycles that occur.  As a rule of thumb, if I am not going to use my\ncomputer (and this includes the monitor) in the next 4-6 hours, I turn it\noff (I always dim the monitor when not in use to prolong the life of the\nphosphor).  I tend to think that with the pace of technical innovation in\nthe computer industry you should be much less concerned with the fatigue\nlife of your equipment and more concerned with how long your particular\narchitecture will be supported by hardware and software vendors. :\") ","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Anyone able to get xwd to dump anything that is not black & white?\n\nMy text is not black....all I get is window borders.  I tried the -xy\noption only because I didn't know what it did.....still no effect.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Devorski unfortunately helped to taint an otherwise brilliant display\nby MacLean.  The Canucks tied up the Jets so tightly that I thought that\nthey were mailing them.\n\nBTW, Greg...next time, don't fall asleep in geography class, it's pretty\nsad when a fellow in Norway can spell Winnipeg properly and a guy in\nNorth America can't.\n\nOne more thing...how LONG has Vancouver been in the NHL?  How many\nchampionships do they have?  \n\nOh yeah...and I CAN go to the Arena and see not one, not two, but\n*six* championship banners hanging from the rafters.  3 Stanley Cup\nbanners, and 3 Avco Cup banners.  My NHL guide says that Vancouver has\nwon the Cup once (as many times as the rockin' town of Kenora has won it!)","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nSure don't know what bike was being worked on but it sure wasn't a\nVirago.  I've owned both the 750 and 1100 and you can do the filter\nchange in about 5 mins and nothing has to be removed.  Obviously the\n\"new\" bike was modified as the stock machine is simple to work on.\n  Watching for imitators!!","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\tThe Sharks appear to be leaning toward picking Rob\n\tNiedermayer, a center (his brother Scott (?) is a defenseman\n\tpicked by NJ a couple years ago).  They brought him in for a\n\tphysical\/tryout a week or so ago. From what I have read\n\tNiedermayer is the best skater in the draft, plays BOTH\n\toffense and defense, and isn't afraid of physical play.\n\tDefensively the Sharks are looking pretty good in terms of\n\tdefense prospects (Rathje, Sykora, Ragnarsson), and our\n\tcenters (Kisio et al) are getting old.\n\n\tWith all of the small players the Sharks have I justs CAN't\n\tsee them picking yet another small player like Kariya, he'd\n\tjust get bashed by the oppposition and get a separated \n\tshoulder.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":" I think we just found the difference between a citizens arrest (physical \n detention of a suspect) and a report\/warrant.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nYou're sitting in your home reading a good book.  Your neighbors think\nyou're a quiet, upstanding citizen.  A random person anonymously calls \nthe authorities and tells them you beat your children, sleep with all \nthe neighbor wimmen, and own a bunch of \"nasty 50mm machine guns.\"  \n\nNow what are they supposed to do?  \n\n\nAh, I see.  They're supposed to send 100 men in horse trailers with\nautomatic weapons, storm onto your roof, and throw grenades at your \nhouse with no warning.  Then, after subjecting you to noise torture\nand telling the national news media for a month what a filthy son of \na bitch you are, they're supposed to gas you and knock your house \naround a bit until they manage to collapse it, cause a fire, or \nsomething equally conclusive.\n\nHope your neighbors don't tumble to this -- at least none of them that\nmight have a craving for a ringside seat at some cheap but dramatic \nlocal entertainment at someone else's expense.  Or maybe even\nPARTICULARLY at your expense.\n\nAt least they won't have to read you your rights, Joe -- obviously you\nhad no use for them anyway.\n\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":" Wanna bet ??? You must be too young to remember Bob Askin :-)\nRead the Costigan commision report if you want to know about corruption\nin OZ.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nNo crime here.\n\n\nNo crime here.\n\n\nNo crime here.\nAlso no substantiation of your claim that Koresh said this.  I for one have\nnever heard this mentioned before.  Where did you hear it?\n\n\nUp to which moment?  The one where you decided that anyone who claims to be\nGod no longer has the protection of the Constitution?\nWhat happened to the separation of church and state?\n\n\nI have yet to see any evidence of *this*, either.  From what I hear the\n*original* warrant (the reason for the Feb. raid) is still sealed.  What are\n\"unsealed\" seem to be warrants taken out after the initial raid.\n\n\nFunny, I haven't seen any of these \"interviews.\"\nInteresting that when the social services agencies investigated Koresh on\nthese previous charges, they found absolutely no evidence of abuse.\n\n\nFunny, I don't remember hearing anything about childrens' statements,\neither.  Where did you say you heard all this?\n\nWhat *I* heard was that none of the children who left the compound early in\nthe seige exhibited any signs typical of abuse, physical or mental.  This\nfrom the newspaper and national TV news.\n\nDid you also hear that it's the job of the BATF and the FBI to lay siege to\nhomes where child abuse is suspected?  I thought you did.\n\n\n\"Clearly?\"  Please tell us what Koresh was doing that can be construed as\nother than \"minding his own business\" before the BATF raided the place.\n\n\nYour logic just amazes me.  I think your grandparents who died in\nAuschwitz would be turning over in their graves if they could hear how\ncavalierly you throw away people's protection of law because you think\nthey're \"scary\" and \"not the sort of person you'd want your daughter to\ndate.\"  What sort of people do you suppose the Nazis thought your\ngrandparents were?  Probably not the sort they'd want their little\nfrauleins dating...\n\n\nAnd next I suppose you'll tell us exactly WHO these \"well-trained killers\"\nhave killed?\n\n\nBecause you said so, right?  Right.\n\n\nSo someone with a different background, say someone who didn't claim to be\nthe Messiah, in your book COULD shoot and kill Federal Law Enforcement\nofficials WOULD be a good citizen whose crusade enjoys our support?\n\n\nWorth the paper it's printed on.\n\nYou're amazing, simply amazing.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"A friend of mine is in the market for a 486 system   \n\n\tShould have: 8 M of RAM\n\t\t     170+ M HD\n\t\t     SVGA Monitor and Card \n\t\t     5 1\/4 &  3 1\/2 FD\"s\n\t\t     200+W PS\n\nIf you have one for sale then email me and I will forward to him.\n\nThanks,","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nAlberto, you've repeatedly misunderstood my postings.  You are now making the exact point\nthat I've made several times but with a different definition of religion.  You don't not\nhave to believe in the \"religious\" aspects of Judaism to be a Jew (this would confine\nJudaism to be just a religion in the sense of a Christianity.).  So, by converting out of\nJudaism, I don't mean just not believing in the god of Judaism.  I mean voluntarily\nremoving yourself from the Jewish nation.  I am an agnostic but still consider myself\nJewish because of my cultural heritage.  (I admit that many religious jews would argue\nthat I am not completely jewish because of my lack of faith, but Judaism is a religion of\ndissent and debate isn't it?).  The fact that one can opt to become Jewish simply by\nconverting to Judaism makes the nation of the jewish people the *least* racist and most\nopen nation.  We have no quotas!\n\nSo I will once again make my point.  Defining a member of the Jewish nation by religion\n(not, as you say, religious belief) is NOT racism.  You come to your incorrect conclusion\nbecause you use a different definition for religion when you define the law of return and\nwhen you define judaism.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nSomeone stated that the Davidian cult should not be associated\nwith Christianity. Well, I read all those four postings, and I'm\nnow even more convinced that Davididians are truly Christian\nin nature. But sometimes it makes sense to re-label the cult, \nespecially if the ugliness is too much to handle.\n\nCheers,\nKent","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Here is a list of (mostly) European 5\" CD singles I have for sale.  All are\nbrand new and some are still shrink-wrapped.  Please e-mail if interested...","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nThere's your problem right there. 'ASALA\/SDPA\/ARF' crooks\/idiots stole\nyour brain. Just watch...\n\nSource: \"World Alive, A Personal Story\" by Robert Dunn. Crown Publishers, \nInc., New York (1952). \n(Memoirs of an American officer who witnessed the Armenian genocide of 2.5 \n million Muslim people)\n\np. 361 (seventh paragraph) and p. 362 (first paragraph).\n\n 'The most are inside houses. Come you and look.'\n 'No, dammit! My stomach isn't-'\n 'One is a Turkish officer in uniform. Him you must see.'\n \"We were under those trees by the mosque, in an open space....\n 'I don't believe you,\" I said, but followed to a nail-studded door. The \n  man pushed it ajar, then spurred away, leaving me to check on the corpse. \n  I thought I should, this charge was so constant, so gritted my teeth and \n  went inside.\n\n The place was cool but reeked of sodden ashes, and was dark at first, for \n its stone walls had only window slits. Rags strewed the mud floor around an \n iron tripod over embers that vented their smoke through roof beams black \n with soot. All looked bare and empty, but in an inner room flies buzzed. As \n the door swung shut behind me I saw they came from a man's body lying face \n up, naked but for its grimy turban. He was about fifty years old by what \n was left of his face - a rifle butt had bashed an eye. The one left slanted, \n as with Tartars rather than with Turks. Any uniform once on him was gone, so \n I'd no proof which he was, and quickly went out, gagging at the mess of his  \n slashed genitals.\"\n\np. 363 (first paragraph). \n\n 'How many people lived there?'\n 'Oh, about eight hundred.' He yawned.\n 'Did you see any Turk officers?'\n 'No, sir. I was in at dawn. All were Tartar civilians in mufti.'\n\n \"The lieutenant dozed off, then I, but in the small hours a voice woke me - \n Dro's. He stood in the starlight bawling out an officer. Anyone keelhauled\n so long and furiously I'd never heard. Then abruptly Dro broke into \n laughter, quick and simple as child's. Both were a cover for his sense\n of guilt, I thought, or hoped. For somehow, despite my boast of irreligion,\n Christian massacring 'infidels' was more horrible than the reverse would\n have been.\n\n From daybreak on, Armenian villagers poured in from miles around.....\n The women plundered happily, chattering like ravens as they picked over\n the carcass of Djul. They hauled out every hovel's chattels, the last \n scrap of food or cloth, and staggered away, packing pots, saddlebags, \n looms, even spinning-wheels.\n\n 'Thank you for a lot, Dro,' I said to him back in camp. 'But now I must \n leave.'...We shook hands, the captain said 'A bientot, mon camarade.' And \n for hours the old Molokan scout and I plodded north across parching plains. \n Like Lot's wife I looked back once to see smoke bathing all, doubtless in \n a sack of other Moslem villages up to the line of snow that was Iran.'\"\n\np. 354.\n\n\"At morning tea, Dro and his officers spread out a map of this whole\n high region called the Karabakh. Deep in tactics, they spoke Russian,\n but I got their contempt for Allied 'neutral' zones and their distrust\n of promises made by tribal chiefs. A campaign shaped; more raids on\n Moslem villages.\"\n\np. 358.\n\n\"It will be three hours to take,\" Dro told me. We'd close in on three\n sides.\n\"The men on foot will not shoot, but use only the bayonets,\" Merrimanov\nsaid, jabbing a rifle in dumbshow.\n\"That is for morale,\" Dro put in. \"We must keep the Moslems in terror.\"\n\"Soldiers or civilians?\" I asked.\n\"There is no difference,\" said Dro. \"All are armed, in uniform or not.\"\n\"But the women and children?\"\n\"Will fly with the others as best they may.\"\n\np. 360.\n\n\"The ridges circled a wide expanse, its floors still. Hundreds of feet \n down, the fog held, solid as cotton flock. 'Djul lies under that,' said \n Dro, pointing. 'Our men also attack from the other sides.'\n\n Then, 'Whee-ee!' - his whistle lined up all at the rock edge. Bayonets\n clicked upon carbines. Over plunged Archo, his black haunches rippling;\n then followed the staff, the horde - nose to tail, bellies taking the\n spur. Armenia in action seemed more like a pageant than war, even though \n I heard our Utica brass roar.\n\n As I watched from the height, it took ages for Djul to show clear. A tsing\n of machine-gun fire took over from the thumping batteries; cattle lowed,\n dogs barked, invisible, while I ate a hunk of cheese and drank from a snow\n puddle. Mist at last folded upward as men shouted, at first heard faintly.\n The came a shrill wailing.\n\n Now among the cloud-streaks rose darker wisps - smoke. Red glimmered about\n house walls of stone or wattle, into dry weeds on roofs. A mosque stood in\n clump of trees, thick and green. Through crooked alleys on fire, horsemen\n were galloping after figures both mounted and on foot.\n\n 'Tartarski!' shouted the gunner by me. Others pantomimed them in escape\n over the rocks, while one twisted a bronze shell-nose, loaded, and yanked\n breech-cord, firing again and again. Shots wasted, I thought, when by\n afternoon I looked in vain for fallen branch or body. But these shots and\n the white bursts of shrapnel in the gullies drowned the women's cries.\n\n At length all shooting petered out. I got on my horse and rode down toward\n Djul. It burned still but little flame showed now. The way was steep and \n tough, through dense scrub. Finally on flatter ground I came out suddenly,\n through alders, on smoldering houses. Across trampled wheat my brothers-in-\n arms were leading off animals, several calves and a lamb.\"\n\np. 361 (fourth paragraph).\n\n\"Corpses came next, the first a pretty child with straight black hair, \n large eyes. She looked about twelve years old. She lay in some stubble \n where meal lay scattered from the sack she'd been toting. The bayonet \n had gone through her back, I judged, for blood around was scant. Between \n the breasts one clot, too small for a bullet wound, crusted her homespun \n dress.\n\n The next was a boy of ten or less, in rawhide jacket and knee-pants. He \n lay face down in the path by several huts. One arm reached out to the \n pewter bowl he'd carried, now upset upon its dough. Steel had jabbed \n just below his neck, into the spine. \n\n There were grownups, too, I saw as I led the sorrel around. Djul was \n empty of the living till I looked up to see beside me Dro's German-speaking \n colonel. He said all Tartars who had not escaped were dead.\"\n\np. 358.\n\n \"...more stories of Armenian murdering Turks when the czarist troops fled\n  north. My hosts told me of their duty here: to keep tabs on brigands, \n  Turkish troop shifts, hidden arms, spies - Christian, Red or Tartar -\n  coming in from Transcaucasus. Then they spoke of the hell that would \n  break loose if Versailles were to put, as threatened, the six 'Armenian'\n  vilayets of Turkey under the control of Erevan...\n\n  An Armenia without Armenians! Turks under Christian rule? His lips\n  smacked in irony under the droopy red moustache. That's bloodshed - just\n  Smyrna over again on a bigger scale.\"\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nWe can only say that they are beyond about 25 AU, due to the low\naccuracy of position determination by single detectors.\n\n\nIt may be a NEW Physics problem (i.e. a problem involving new\nphysics).  However, the data is not good enough to rule out the >100\nmodels which use old physics.  New physics is a big step, and is only\ntolerated when there is no alternative.  For example , the Dark Matter\nProblem (there's more to the universe than meets the eye) is a question\nof comparable mystery to GRBs, but we have much better data regarding\nit.  Theoreticians postulate new particles all the time to explain it,\nbut no one will actually believe that these particles are real until an\nexperimentalist (or several) detects them in the lab.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\t\n\n\tAccepted by whom?  People who think digital watches are a \n\treal good idea?  That 60 channels of television is 10x better \n\tthan 6 channels of television?  \n\n\n\tYou're right.  Keep an open mind to the following:\n\n\t1. Taco flavored donuts.\n\t2. Cannibalism.  Good way to get that extra protein in the diet.\n\t3. Belief in Yawanga, armadillo god of parking meters.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"-> >\tI think he's talking about Kinsey who came up with the 10%\n-> >statistic used heavily by gay groups to push their political agenda.\n-> >Kinsey's work has often been accused of lacking a strong scientific\n-> >backbone.  \n-> \n-> I really must defend my man Alfred.  Not that this poster was really\n-> to be taken seriously, since the deletiae are a phobe's rants.  But\n-> still, some who aren't such phobes mistakenly criticize my man. \n\n\tYou really need to be able to support yourself without\ninsults.  The article you're calling rants actually had absolutely\nnone of my opinions and was only a series of factual statements.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n              In the season 92\/93 playing for EHC Freiburg\/Germany\n\nBenny.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"i saw this posted and it brings an interesting event to mind .....\n\n\n\na few weeks ago i was in the DMV with ken. i was standing in a mile long \nline waiting for some really bored looking person to fleece a bunch of \npeople from some dough. ken was sitting on a chair next to our helmets \nwondering why everybody there looked to be about the social calibur of \npeople you would find at a laundromat when some young woman walked in who \nrequired our conferring attentions. he came over and stood in line with me \nwhile we watched her fill out some forms and then we noticed a little kid \nabout 4 years old reach over the bench and touch our helmets, one at a time. \ni didn't particularly mind, and neither did ken (that the kid was touching \nour helmets that is). but the helmets weren't on the most stable of \nplatforms, so ken scooted over there to resettle them and as soon as he \ntouched the helmets, mother of said child started shrieking at her kid \"YOU \nSTAY AWAY FROM THOSE YOU SHIT!\" and whopped the tyke brutally about the head \nand shoulders.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\t\t\t\t\t\t    ^^^^\n ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^\n\tWhoa. Aren't you forgetting a couple of guys named Gant and Justice?\n\n \n\tHe can lead off. He'll probably steal 40. He might hit .300. He'll\nnever hit 20+ homers. I think you went 2 for 4 on this one.\n \n\t\t       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\tYou said it all right there. \n\n\tDoes anyone else out there not like Deon? I think he's all hype.\nHis .300 season last year was good, but I'm not convinced that he can do\nit again. It reminds me (sorry) of the year 1987(?) when Tim Wallach hit\n30 or so homers and had 127 RBI. It never even came close to happening \nagain. Of course, maybe I just prefer guys who go about their business\nand don't play it up for the attention. Just my HO.\n\nDoug Roberts - Larry Walker is God. Delino Deshields thinks he is.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nI hate to pick on someone who may have been seriously injured (let's hope\nnot), but: semi-coherent sounds like a good description of someone who\nshows up at the track w\/ a VMax in the first place:-{\n\n                  tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n   [...]\n   >The Attorney General publishes the number of court-ordered taps each year.\n   [...]\n\n   I believe you are mistaken. I don't believe the AG publishes the\n   number of state wiretaps.\n\n   - Carl\n\n   -- \n   Carl Kadie -- I do not represent any organization; this is just me.\n    = kadie@cs.uiuc.edu =\n\nHmmm.... now if we could have *3* keys kept in escrow, with one of the \ngroups keeping a key being the government, then the states would need\nfederal permission to run a wiretap.... interesting possibility:-)\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nOh, that's not so bad. Every time I try to change the oil, I forget to\nshut off the engine first. The hot oil comes out and scalds me, blinds\nme, then the engine starts to overheat, and while I'm screaming in agony\nand trying to crawl out from under the car, I grab the red hot exhaust\npipe and get third degree burns on my hands. My screams intensify as I\nfinally emerge from under the car, and I struggle to my feet in front of\nthe car, whereupon the radiator hose ruptures and sprays me with super\nheated coolant. Then the engine seizes, but not before the cylinder head\nexplodes, piercing my flesh with fragments of red hot iron.\n\nThis happens every time. I'm starting to think I should pay the mechanic\n$25 instead paying the hospital $250,000 and the dealer $25,000 for a new\ncar. This gets costly when you change the oil every 3000 miles.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nHere in Georgia, the state legislature in 1992 \"accidentally passed a law \nlobbied for by Opthamologists prohibiting anyone but a licensed MD from\ngiving shots. They were trying to limit Optometrists from competing with\nthem.\nThey inadvertantly forbade nurses, EMTs, dentists, and tattoo artists \nfrom \"piercing the skin.\" (probably diabetics too). The Secretary of State's \noffice announced on June 30th that they wouldn't enforce it pending\nreconsideration in the 1003 Legislature. In the hassle over the state flag\nI heard nothing about repealing it.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"EPS _IS_ plain postscript. It is only wrapped by some comments and stripped\nof any dubious commands for compatibility. You can simply do\n\n%!\n\nsave gsave\n\/showpage {} def\n\n% Include eps file here\n\ngrestore restore\n\nshowpage\n\n% end of file\n\nand this way show it on it's natural page position and size.\n\nPrograms may use the %%BoundingBox: comment in the EPS file to do\narbitrary scale, rotate and translate to include it in more complicated\nways than above.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nPlease post to news, too.\n\n\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"[ deleted ]\n[ deleted ]\n\n  Your information on this topic is very much out of date.  Quantum Electro-\ndynamics (QED - which considers light to be particles) has been experimentally\nverified to about 14 decimal digits of precision under ALL tested conditions.\nI'm afraid that this case, at least in the physics community, has been decided.\nLaymen should consult \"QED - The Strange Theory of Light and Matter\" by Richard\nP. Feynman and for the more technically minded there's \"The Feynman Lectures on\nPhysics\" by Feynman, Leighton and Sands (an excellent 3 volumes).  Case closed.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I've posted a couple of notes about encountering this problem. Based on some \nsuggestions from:\n\nMark Aitchison, University of Canterbury, New Zealand.\n\tand\nChris A. Larrieu @cs.wm.edu\n\nI think that my problem is a screen saver that also outputs sound (to my \nPC speaker). I'm still looking at some of the other screen savers that I \nuse (with a randomizer), but this one definately caused the loss of several \nminutes over night (but not the date this time). ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nI don't know about the paranoia and irrationality, but the rest is\npretty close, all though you left out the inability to breath.  Of\ncourse you can make a claim that people will do some fairly deranged\nthings to get away from it.  I've seen teenagers flatten 200lb. drill\nsergeants to get out of tents full of it.  Which raises another\nissue....\n\n\nWhat they didn't mention is that IN THE OPEN, it probably wouldn't do\nTOO MUCH harm to children, although I wouldn't use it in close proximity\nto infants.  On the other hand, IN CONFINED spaces, the effects are\nGREATLY intensified, to the point of LETHALITY, since a sufficient\nquantity of CS will displace OXYGEN.  When running a CS chamber CAREFUL\nattention is paid to ventilation.  I wonder if they checked to see if\nany of the BDs were asthmatics or suffered from other respiratory\ndiseases.  I doubt it.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nYou must be kidding, right? In losing Stevens the Blues got Shanahan and\nkept\nJoseph. Then they traded Oates for Janney. As a Hawks fan you have got to\nrespect those \"hapless\" names. 8^) Lets see, who scored the game winning\novertime goal in the 4th game???\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":": BULLSHIT!!! In the Gulf Massacre, 7% of all ordnance used was \"smart.\" The\n: rest - that's 93% - was just regular, dumb ol' iron bombs and stuff. Have\n: you forgotten that the Pentagon definition of a successful Patriot launch\n: was when the missile cleared the launching tube with no damage? Or that a\n: successful interception of a Scud was defined as \"the Patriot and Scud\n: passed each other in the same area of the sky\"?\n: \n: And of the 7% that was the \"smart\" stuff, 35% hit. Again - try to follow me\n: here - that means 65% of this \"smart\" arsenal missed.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nI have been using both IDE (or MFM) and SCSI drives for years.  I have 2\nIDE and 1 SCSI on one system and the other with 2 IDE, 2 SCSI disk, and \n1 SCSI CDROM.  I currently using ALWAYS IN2000 SCSI card, but I also have\na Future Domain, a Western Digital SCSI card, and I work with an ADAPTIC \nbefore.  As I recall, all these cards can support boot and floppy drive.\nHowever, to use with other controller (IDE, MFM...) the boot drive has to\nbe the IDE (or MFM).  You CAN NOT boot from the SCSI if you have other \ncontroller in the system.  If you guys only have 2 drives (1 IDE, 1 SCSI).\njust set up the IDE in your CMOS setup.  Make sure you can boot from it.\nThen, set up the SCSI controller (IRQ, DMA, etc). Set the SCSI drive to \nID 0.  Just plug and play for all the cards I seen so far.  Only if you \nhave more than 2 drives then you need driver for the third drive and so\non.  If you have more question, email me, I will try to answer it.\nGood Luck!","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nYou may have been emailed this, but the IIsi's power supply is not rated to\nhandle the GC board.  Remember when the si came out and everyone complained\nabout it's power supply.  This is one result of apple providing a low-cost\ncomputer and I think they got a lot of flack for having a relatively high end\ncomputer (at the time anyways) that couldn't even support their own video\nboard.  Even if this isn't what is causing your problems, you might develop\none later.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Couldn't replacement become expensive?\n\n-David","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Diamond Video cards (stealth, viper, speedstar, etc...) \nmay have excellent specifications, and the windows drivers that\ncome with them might make windows BLINDINGLY fast, BUT:\n\nIf you're considering buying a system, with a view to using\nit to run Unix (Linux, bsd, etc...) or some other special software,\nthere is a good chance that it WILL NOT WORK with the Diamond cards.\nThis is due to Diamond's propriety attitude to it's hardware:\nit's impossible to get free information from them about their chips \n(specifically their dot-clocks) without paying, and signing non-disclosure\nagreements.\n\nThis made it impossible for the Free Software Foundation to provide\nX-Windows compatibility with these cards, as diamond didn't want to \ndivulge programming neccessities.\n\nAs far as I know only Diamond has this propriety on it's info.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Michael, you sent your inquiry to the bmw mailing list, but the sw\nreplaces your return addr with the list addr so I can't reply or\nmanually add you. please see my post re the list or contact me directly.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"bosox-request@world.std.com\nto mail to the list: bosox@world.std.com","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"It's worse than you show it.....look for Janet REno and others to\nlink the words \"child abuse\" and \"p[rivate stores of guns\" from\nnow on out.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\tI'm not sure it has been established that the government can\n\tprevent you from sending an algorithm abroad.  The NSA seems\n\tto have won by intimidation so far.  Why don't you try it? ;-)\n\tOf course you could just distribute your algorithm widely for\n\tfree and screw them up big time.  (That would be my approach ;-))\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"        I have that book, and the way I read it is, one side of the\nconversation MUST be from outside the United States.\n        Of coures, that ASS U MEs that the NSA plays by the rules...\n ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"[to Benedikt Roseneau ]\n\n#In article <1qv6at$fb4@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>\n# \n#>#The information of that is invariant under your child being a son or\n#>#a daughter and singing about Santa Claus. Wasn't your argument that\n#>#\"there has to be more\"?\n#>More than what?\n#More than we assume.\n\nWhich is what, exactly?\n\n#>(a) Most of the people I debate disagree with my premises.  Hardly debate\n#>    otherwise.\n# \n#Your favorite point that we sense so it hs to be there has been challenged\n#more than once. When I did it, you said, \"good question\", and did not\n#address it.\n\nI've addressed \"it\" (your caricature is not my \"favourite point\", needless\nto say) at length in a previous outing, and am currently discussing it with \nEric Rescorla.  \n\n#>(b) There's little point in responding the same points everywhere; I do\n#>    my best to give everyone the courtesy of a reply.\n# \n#You still repeat that point.\n\nI do? Curious, since I believe that was the first time I've ever made it.\nNot that repetition would imply much more than your seeming inability\nto understand; you ask me the same question, I'll give you the same\nanswer, especially when in this case, I know the answer to be true.  I\ndo my best to give everyone the courtesy of a reply, but if everyone is\nmaking the same points, and I'm pushed for time, then I try to respond what I \nbelieve are the strongest formulations of those points.  If that doesn't\ninclude your post, tough; this is USENET, and life is tough all over.\n\n#>(c) Since there's a great deal of responses this isn't always feasible;  I\n#>    do my best to honestly answer questions put to me.\n# \n#You drop out of debates with some posters and continue with others. You appear\n#with the same issue every n months, and start the dicussion at the beginning\n#again.\n\nI've only debated this issue twice in a.a, and occasionally in t.a.  The\nfirst was in response to Simon Clippingdale's positive assertion that\ndisagreement about moral values inexorably acknowledges that morals\nare relative.  It doesn't.   Now, Simon has dropped out of the debate\nfor some time; I take that to mean that he is either busy, or bored\nwith the topic.  I certainly do not accuse him of dishonesty.  Do you? \n\n#>(d) I can't always understand what you say\n# \n#Neither can't I understand you all the time. Usually, one asks what the other\n#side means.\n\nUsually, one does.  Usually you're clear, but sometimes you aren't \nand I ask you what you mean; other times you seem to get extremely uptight \nand I feel that I'm debating against line noise.  Sometimes I get tired, and \nsometimes I have other things I'd rather do.  Again, this is USENET, and\nlife is tough all over.  You're going to have to deal with it.\n\n#>(e) You're starting to get personally insulting; I may not even put your name\n#>    in the hat in future.\n#\n#That's supposed to be a threat?\n\nNo, that's a simple statement, and an assertion that I am not answerable\nto those who offer me baseless insults.  For example, those who accuse me \nof lying about my personal beliefs, while also complaining that I don't answer\ntheir questions.  \n\n#>#Like that you what you sense is evidence for the sensed to be there.\n#>#If only everything would be so easy.\n#>\n#>What almost everyone senses is evidence for the sensed to be there.\n#>Because to all intents and purposes, it *is* there.\n#> #We had that argument. For one, your claim that everyone senses it\n#is not founded, and you have been asked to give evidence for it often.\n#And then, the correct statement would be it is reason to assume that it\n#is there unless evidence against it has been found.\n\nI have no problem with the second statement.  I have provided an\nargument that almost everyone senses that Freedom is valuable - the\nonly cogent objection to this came from jon livesey, and was offered\nby some other people too: essentially, that people disagree about\nfuzzy concepts such as Freedom.  It's a good point, and I'm thinking\nabout it.\n# \n#Your trick is to say, I feel A is not right, and so do many I know,\n#therefore A is absolutely right. It neglects the possibility that\n#these people consider A to be right as an effect of the same process,\n#restricting the claim of its absoluteness to those who have been subject\n#of that process. In other words, refutes it. You make the ontological\n#claim, you have to prove it.\n\nNonsense.  My \"trick\" is to say:  I feel that A is better than B and so \ndoes almost any disinterested person I ask.  Best evidence is therefore \nthat A really is better than B, subject to the assumption that we\ncan establish to our mutual satisfaction what we mean by A and B, and\nthat the resulting system of values is self-consistent.\n\nNow get this:  \"really is better\" is an idealisation, a fictional model,\nin the same sense that \"real material existence\" is a fictional model. It\nmay or may not correspond to something true.  It is nonetheless a useful\n_assumption_.  Far more useful than the equally assumed relativist \n\"trick\", to wit:\n\nI feel that A is better than B, and so does almost any disinterested person\nI ask.  However, if even one person disagrees that A is better than B,\nor if even one person dissents from mutually agreed definitions of A and B,\nthen it is the case that B is better than A for that person, and nothing\nmore can be said.  \n\nI say this is useless because it inexorably implies that a supermajority\nseeking to maximise A cannot morally take action against someone seeking to\nmaximise B (e.g. a terrorist).  To do that would be to claim that \na supermajority's carefully considered morality would be better than the \nterrorist's - which would, of course, be true, but a no-no for an ethical\nrelativist.  To claim that ethical relativism implies anything else is\nsimply weasel words, and an example of compartmentalisation to rival\nanything in the world of religion.\n\n#>#For a similar argument, I sense morality is subjective, it does not\n#>#hurt me to do things that are considered to be objectively wrong by\n#>#others.\n#>\n#>If you mean that you do things that some others consider objectively\n#>wrong, and it turns out not to be the case for you - of course this\n#>is possible.  It is neither evidence for subjectivism, nor evidence\n#>against objectivism (except sometimes, in a pragmatic sense).\n#>\n#It serves as a counterexample for that everything that is subject to\n#judgements is absolute. And as long as you don't provide evidence for\n#that there is something universally agreed upon there is no reason to\n#believe your hypothesis.\n\nI've done this: freedom, with the proviso that I still have to \nanswer jon's objection that fuzzy concepts like freedom have no\nobjective meaning.\n\n#Further, in order to make morality absolute, universal, or objective,\n#you would have to show that it is independent of humans, or the attributes\n#above look quite misleading.\n\nNot really.  What evidence is there that _anything_ exists independently\nof humans?  You'll be hard pressed to find any that isn't logically\nequivalent when applied to values.\n\n#>An analogous set of premises would be:\n#>\n#>Premise 1:  Some people believe that objectively speaking the shortest\n#>            route  from my house to a bar is through the main entrance\n#>            of the estate, and down the Malahide road.\n#>\n#>Premise 2:  I checked it out, and found that the shortest route from my\n#>            which is much closer.\n#>\n#>You would never deduce from these that there is no shortest route from my\n#>house to a bar; yet that is seemingly how you derive your relativist claim,\n#>using premises which are logically no different.\n#>\n# \n#No. Morals are a matter of belief so far. The people still believe that the\n#shortest way is through the main entrance. No agreement on *belief* here.\n#And in order to have an analogy you would have to show that there is a\n#shortest way and that there is a method to convince everyone of that it\n#is the shortest way indeed. In other words,  your analogy works only when\n#one assumes that your  premises are right in the first place. If not, it is\n#a fallacy.\n\nAnd if this were an argument for objectivism, you'd be right.  It isn't,\nthough, it's a demonstration that the argument you gave me is neither argument\n*against* objectivism, nor argument *for* relativism.  Your gimmick is to\nassume in the first place that values aren't real, and to use this to \"prove\"\nthat values aren't real.  In other words, you beg the question against me.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I have the task to program a X application for the first time and have some severe difficulties creating a window in which I can draw something.\nUnfortunately some basic books on the topic of X application programming are not available to me for the moment.\n\nI am running a hp720 with hpux 8.07, VUE and X11R4 using Xt anbd Xaw.\n\nWhat I did until now:\nI initialized the X Intrinsics cxreating a top level widget with XtAppInitialize. I passed as a application_class name 'commandWidgetClass'.\nThen I set the argument values for window height and width using XtSetArg and\npassed it to the toplevel widget with XtSetValues.\nWhen I call XtRealizeWidget, I get a window of the specified size, but I have no idea how I can draw something in it.\n\nCan anybody send me some help and perhaps some basic information how to use the widgets ?\nIn which situation it is useful to use them and in which not ?\n\nThanks very much in advance\n\nSoenke\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Soenke Voss                                                 Faculty of Economics\nsoenke@wiwi12.uni-bielefeld.de                           University of Bielefeld\n                                                                         Germany  ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Old Nick (the little devil!) wibbles:-\n%\n% Tsk, tsk, tsk.  Another newbie bites the dust, eh?  They'll learn.\n%\n   Newbie?  Eh?  Slap yer' credentials  on the table, Pete.  That'll  show\n   him!\n\n%\n% I'm terribly sorry.\n%\n   And so you damned well should  be...  young whipper-snapper!  It's  wet\n   kippers at ten paces if there's any repeat of this sort of thing!\n\n   Now, in keeping with the  grand tradition of wreck.moto, let's  mutate!\n   Take your partners by the hand...\n\n   On Tuesday morning I spent a couple of hours (when I -should- have been\n   working) with a  torch, brazing bits  of scrap metal  over the  biggest\n   holes in  Yamadog's exhaust  pipes (s'mazin'  what you  can do  with  a\n   couple of AA  cells and a  three-volt bulb!).   I stuck some  \"gun-gum\"\n   into the smaller holes and bunged the pipes back onto the bike.\n\n   So, last night  I'm on the  way home  when lo' an'  bloody behold,  the\n   sodding thing starts  blowing again.   I check  it out and  the gas  is\n   escaping from around  the clamp holding  the number two  pipe into  the\n   port.  As far as I can see (it being somewhat \"hole of Calcutta\" at the\n   time!), the nuts are still there  (stop that bloody sniggering, you  at\n   the back!), but the pipe is a bit loose.\n\n   This morning  I go  out to  the bike  and pull  out the  socket-set  to\n   tighten up me' nuts (somebody give that  spotty kid at the back a  good\n   slap  round  the  back  of  the  head!),  and  lo'  an'  bloody  behold\n   a-bloody-gen, I find that the outer skin of the pipe has separated from\n   the inner sleeve right at the clamp-mating bevel.  So, I stuff in a bit\n   of baked-beanz can and a bit more of Mr Holts' very best \"gun-gum\"  and\n   come to work (late again!) so that I  can ask of the oracle...  Will  a\n   brazed joint hold that close to the exhaust port?  Anybody tried it?\n\n   Oh, and if anybody can tell me  what the differences are between a  205\n   and a  207  brazing  rod (made  by  \"Gaz\"  [Yup!   the  camping  folks.\n   Surprised the marmalade outa' me, too!] in that place just off the Isle\n   of Wight) I'd be eternally  grateful (twenty-sodding-quid for two  rods\n   and I don't even know what I'm buying.  Bloody kanji!).\n\n-- \n   ------------------------------------------------------------------------\n  | John Little  - gaijin@Japan.Sun.COM  - Sun Microsystems. Atsugi, Japan | ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I  must  finally  admit the total truth that is central to the\ncore of my being.\n\n   I  am  a  homosexual.   Not  just  a  normal,  run-of-the-mill\nhomosexual,  but  a  rabid homosexual Zionist.  I hide behind the\nfacade  of  pro-Israel  rhetoric so as to deflect suspicion of my\ntrue  motive:  the exchange of romantic dialogue with Nick Steel,\nand  our  frequent  fudge-packing   adventures,  which   we  have\nendeavored  to maintain at a discreet level.  Of course, the need\nfor discretion has been obviated by my own admission here.\n\n   The  truth  is  that  I  could  no longer hold this saccharine\nsecret  any  longer.   I love  you,  Nick,  and  my  love for you\nsurpasses  that  which  I  hold  for Eretz Yisrael, may she stand\nforever, as our love has, and as your erection insinuating itself\ninto my kosher rectum always will.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\tHOW TO GET A VERBAL WARNING FOR 146 IN A 55\n\nIt's simple.  First, it has to be the first really nice riding day\nof spring.  The bike is back together again, and so are you.  Grab\nall your gear, put it on, and fill the tank with 94 octane premium\nor better.  Head out.\n\n\tIn Ames, there is a road that leads to the little town of\nGilbert.  Gilbert has one stop light, if that tells you something.\nHaving just gotten the bike back together, I thought I'd take it\nfor a short ride and check things out.  Heading out of town, I\nwent into the twisties at a slow pace, just under the speed limit,\nand started leaning around.  The pace quickened as everything felt\njust right.  Finally, the road straightened and I was ready for a\nbit of speed.  Grab third gear, open her up.  At roughly 90mph\ngrab fourth gear.  Look at as much of the bike as you can, and fail\nto notice a state trooper following a quarter mile behind.  Twist\nthe throttle like a fool, grab fifth gear at 130 or so, and see\njust how well she's been put back together.\n\n\tAt 146 (according to radar) I noticed the front fender was\nflexing a bit.  Thus, I slowed, pulled off the road, removed my\nhelmet and gloves, unslung the took kit I was carrying in a fanny\npack, and was just starting to tighten that fender when the trooper\npulled in all hot and flustered.\n\n\t\"Have you *ANY* idea how fast you were going?\"\n\"Not precisely, no.  I was paying attention to the bike and road,\nnot the instruments.  I just got her back together last night, and\nI'm just out here testing her out before I ride it in traffic.\"\n\t\"My radar says you were at over 145mph.  Care to tell me why\nI shouldn't give you a ticket?\"\n\"Because I was testing the motorcycle away from population and\ntraffic, on a strait and flat road, while wearing all the protective\ngear that safety demands?\" (note: I wasn't quite that eloquent)\n\t\"Say, what kind of bike is that, anyway?\"\n<I was eloquent on my cafe racer replica Honda 750, a Rat Bike>\n\t\"Yeah, I haven't had my bike out of the garage in years.\"\n<compare riding stories>\n<pack toolkit, having tightened that fender>\n\t\"So why were you out here?\"\n\"I figure every other idiot on the road is going to look right through\nme.  If the bike fails somehow in a 35mph zone, I'm dead.  If it holds\nup out here, then I know it will work right in traffic.  I do this\nevvery year when I rebuild her.\"\n\t\"Not any more.  You'll find a better place than *my* highway\nto do those speeds.  If I *ever* catch you speeding on my highway\nagain I'm going to nail you for everything I possibly can.  Now get\nout of my sight before I write you a ticket.\"\n\"Yes, officer.\"\n\t\"And kid, keep your eyes open out there...\" <drives off>\n\n\tAnd that, in a nut-shell, is how to get a warning for 146 in a 55.\nI don't guarantee that it will work for you, but it worked for me.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Should come with visual basic. New version is vbrun200.dll.\nThx Dave L\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I'm selling an Adaptec 1640 SCSI controller card.  I works with Microchannel\nmachines only.  The data transfer rate is very fast (I get about 3meg\/sec with\nmy SCSI hard drive), and that's with relatively slow 100ns RAM on a card.  It's\na SCSI-2 true bus mastering\/DMA device, and goes for around $329 bought new. \nI'm including the new EZ-SCSI software for speedy Win 3.1 performance and easy\nconfiguration.\nI'm selling it for $225, and I'll pay the COD shipping.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nWell, there *is* the standards document.  From the FAQ:\n\n12) How to order standards documents.\n\nThe American National Standards Institute sells ANSI standards, and also\nISO (international) standards.  Their sales office is at 1-212-642-4900,\nmailing address is 1430 Broadway, NY NY 10018.  It helps if you have the\ncomplete name and number.\n\nSome useful numbers to know:\n\nCGM (Computer Graphics Metafile) is ISO 8632-4 (1987).  GKS (Graphical\nKernel System) is ANSI X3.124-1985. ...\n\n\nYou might also want to look at gplot from the folks at the Pittsburgh\nSupercomputer Center.  Fish around at calpe.psc.edu.  It is pretty\nnifty.\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\tspl","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
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{"text":"\n\nNo you do not need to reformat your old HD.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nPlease post your response as well.  I think many would be \ninterested in this one.  Thank You.\n-- ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"FOR SALE:\n\nKenwood Audio\/Visual Surround sound Receiver.\n* 1.5 yrs old, perfect condition, still under 5 year warranty.\n* 75 watts x 2 front + 5x2 watts rear surround.  Dobly surround.\n* 3 video, 2 tape, 1 CD, 1 Phono input.\n* Full easy-touch button control for all functions\n* Bass\/treble\/balance\/rear level knobs\n* Earphone input\n* Digital synthesized tuner with 20FM\/10AM presets. \n* Full logic-remote control:  with volume, mute, tuner and other controls.\n* Has three outlets in the back, can connect all your equipment and turn them\n  on at the same time  \n* Includes manuals, cables, and original packaging.\n\nA great addition for anyone starting out a home theater, or stereo system.\n\nOriginally purchased at $379, Asking $150.\n\nemail:  jburgin@ralph.cs.haverford.edu\nphone:  215-645-5620","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"   Doug Holland claims Tom Clancy has provided the recipe for nuclear bombs.\n   Clancy himself says he has omitted certain crucial steps. Further, how do we\n   know Clancy knows, rather than repeating what he's read or been told in the\n   unclassified domain?\n\nOn the other hand, when John Aristotle Phillips was a junior at Princeton\ntrying to keep from flunking physics by doing a terrific term paper,\nhis atom bomb design was good enough that it got classified.\nA few of the steps were derived from social engineering \n(e.g. the name of the explosive), but it was fundamentally sound (and DID get an A.)\nThe Pakistan embassy also called him up trying to get a copy;\nat the time they were lobbying the US government to get some nuclear\nreactors for \"purely non-military\" electrical power generation.\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nEgo Trip...\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Our university is wanting to buy a couple of servers to provide Email\nto students (@ 2300) and faculty (@ 250). Two servers are being\nlokked at for one to provide news service and one mail service from a\nproposed Internet connection. Are there any foreseable problems with\nthis proposed set up? Provided that IHETs is providing an Ethernet\nline from a Cisco router into our network.\n\n2 X \t486 DX 50 MHz\n\tSMC Elite 32 or 32TP EISA  NIC\n\tDual Duplexed 2.5Gb SCSI-2  \n    \twith 5yr parts and labor on everything but the hard drives\n\trunning UNIVEL UNIX for Application Servers\n\nWe will run CC:Mail on a campus wide Novell network to access these\n<hopefully>. Is there any other aspect I should be looking at?\n\n\n\nWhich NIC do I use? \nIs this enough disk space?\netc...\n\n \nAny help would be greatly appreciated.\n ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"A young French skeptic, who reads (skeptically) the UFO review OVNI\nPresence (O.P.), sent me the following excerpt from an August 92\nissue of this review (R.G. = Robert Galley, French minister of\ndefense in 1974, answering about the Belgian UFO wave):\n\n\"O.P. : Can you conceive that the U.S. could allow themselves to send\n their most modern crafts over foreign territory, with the Belgian\n hierarchy ignoring that ?\"\n\"R.G. : Absolutely ! The best proof which I can give is that, some time\n ago, without informing the French authorities, the U.S. based in\n Germany sent a plane to make photos of Pierrelatte (*). We followed\n this plane, and, after its landing on the Ramstein airport, Colonel X\n got back the shots of Pierrelatte. The U.S. had not informed us...\"\n(*) There is an important military plant of enrichment of uranium at\nPierrelatte (Drome).\n\nWhat kind of plane could it be ? Surely not an SR-71, which our planes\ncould not follow (and still can't)...","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Meng,\n\nI have a better prayer:\n\nDear God,\n\n     Please save the world from the likes of these!!!","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nIt's made by (SURPRISE) National Instruments:\n6504 Bridge Point Parkway\nAustin, TX 78730-5039\n(800) 433-3488\nanonymouse ftp at: ftp.natinst.com\n\nTheir 1991 catalog lists the NB-8G as follows:\n\nfetch and deposit DMA controller (8 channels)\nIEEE-488 interface with data rates up to 850 kB\/sec, with DMA and\nprogrammed I\/O\n   transfers\n8 16-bit counter timer channels\nRTSI bus (that's the connector on the top of the board - it links it with\n   other National Instrument boards\nList price of $1295","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n > Second question: Why!?!? Why is such a strange procedure used, and\n >not a real RNG ? This turns those S1,S2 in a kind of bottleneck for\n >system- security.\n\n\t>> The only theory that makes any sense is that S1 and S2 are\n\t>> either the same for all chips, or vary among very few\n\t>> possibilities, so that anyone trying to break the encryption\n\t>> by brute force need only plow through the possible serial\n\t>> numbers (2^30, about one billion), multiplied by the number\n\t>> of different S1, S2 combinations.\n\n\nSuppose instead that S1 and S2 can be reconstructed given 3 or 4 of the\nunit keys generated in a single batch (through some sort of known\nplaintext attack, say).  Suppose further that 3 or 4 of the chips\nprogrammed in each session never find their way into commercial\nproducts, but instead end up \"elsewhere\".\n\nSuppose the folks at \"elsewhere\" can determine a unit key, given\nphysical access to one of these chips.  Then those same folks can\ndetermine S1 and S2 for the whole batch...\n\nToo many suppositions?  Yeah, probably.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n(WITH-COUNTERFLAME-ENABLED\n\n Columbus was indeed a crank, but not in the manner you think.\n\n The fact that the world was round was well known when he set sail.  It was\n also well known that the circumference was about 25K miles, and that you could\n not reach Asia bo going west with current technology -- you would neither be\n able to carry enough supplies, nor get a long enough stretch of good sailing\n weather.  Nobody thought he would fall off the edge of the world.  Instead,\n they expected him to die at sea.\n\n Columbus thought for no good reason that the circumference was only 16K miles,\n making the trip practical.\n\n Unfortunately for Columbus and his shipmates, the Earth's circumference is\n indeed 25K miles.\n\n Fortunately for Columbus and his shipmates, there was a stopping place right\n about where Asia would have been had the circumference been 16K miles.\n\n\n My source is the recent PBS series on Columbus.\n\n)","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nThem thar's fighting words...hardly a force...geez...miss the playoffs\nonce in 15 years, and even after making the final four 3 times in the\nlast five years, and everyone thinks its doomsville.\n\n\nFedorov, Primeau, Kozlov, Lidstrom, Sillinger, Konstantinov, Drake,\nKennedy, Racine, and Cheveldae were already in the pipeline due to\nDevellano...Murray inherited these guys...in addition to Yzerman,\nProbert, Carson, Chiasson, etc.\n\n\nNo...Quinn had far less...Murray took over Detroit at a time to \ntake advantage of all of Devellano's good drafting...if Devellano\nhad not given in to Demers request to make the Oates trade, he might\nstill be GM.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nI too had a very unpleasant experience with \"Hardware That's Shi*\". It\nfeatured repeated lies about when things had shipped, a salesperson who\nwas totally ignorant about what he was selling, a charge for duties I\nhad specifically been assured were not payable and then a monitor (their\nhouse brand 2-page monochrome) that was the most unadulterated piece of\njunk it has ever been my misfortune to experience in the world of\nelectronics.\n\nI shipped it back and they refunded my money, but it still cost me\nsomething over $200 for long distance charges, non-refundable taxes\nand duties and lost time.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"George William Herbert sez:\n\n\nI like your optimism, George.  I don't know doots about raising that kind\nof dough, but if you need people to split the work and the $700M, you just\ngive me a ring :-)  Living alone for a year on the moon sounds horrid, but\nI'd even try that, if I got a bigger cut.  :-)\n\n-Tommy Mac\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTom McWilliams 517-355-2178 wk   \\\\ As the radius of vision increases,\n18084tm@ibm.cl.msu.edu 336-9591 hm \\\\ the circumference of mystery grows.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"[ Lots of stuff deleted because I felt like it ]\n\nThis MS bashing has definitely lost all its humor value.\n\nI think most of the people posting are forgetting that most users\nof MS products do not even know about internet, and Unix is that\nvery unfriendly place where bizzare abreviations replace the rather\ncomfortable abreviations they know. And the abreviations have subtle\ndifferences between the different vendors. While PC users tend to\ncustomize any windowing setup, they can not do much with their \ncommand line.\n\nSo to most of the computer users in the world MS product symbolize\nquality. MS has made their life easier, and more productive and to them\nthat is quality. They do not care about what innovative things MS has\ndone, other than to make their life with a computer one heck of a lot\neasier. You may know better than most computer users in this world\nbut that will not change their perception.\n\nFace it until Unix come up with a decent GUI that is available to\nall variations of Unix it just will not catch on with the mainstream\nof computer users. We here on the net are not mainstream computer users.\n\n\nBrian\n-- \n\nDisclaimer: The opinions expressed are mine not those of BNR.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nYou started it...\n\n\nYou most certainly did!\n\n\nSabo is clearly a better hitter than Samuel.  Yet you would pinch-hit\nSamuel because you predict that Samuel will be a clutch hitter and\nSabo will be a choke hitter.  Right?  I'd call that \"predicting the\nfuture\".\n\n\nRight.  I would have used aspects of prior performance which have been\nshown to be consistent in the past.  Overall performance, L\/R splits,\neven matching hitting\/pitching styles.  All of these will give me some\nadvantage if used properly.\n\nEVEN IF ALL ELSE WERE EQUAL, there would be no advantage gained by\nlooking at past clutch performance.  And in this case, everything else\npointed to Sabo.\n\n\nThat comes down to the same thing.  When Perez left Sabo in, he\nwas predicting the future, the next AB.  He was predicting that\nSabo was more likely to get a hit than Samuel.\n\nBy supporting the swap, you are predicting the opposite.\n\n\nWell, yes.  You are aware of its existance.  You claim to be incapable\nof understanding it (though I suspect you are simply unwilling).  Yet\nyou rather forcefully state the opposite.  You don't seem to think the\nwork is worth reading (yet you obviously feel the topic is important).\nI'd say this is insulting.\n\n\nRIGHT!  This is the beef.  It has not proven to be an indicator of\nfuture performance under *any* circumstances.  At least none that\nwe've been able to come up with.  If you know of some where it *is* an\nindicator of future performance, please let us in on your secret.\n\n\nMost certainly.  As I have repeatedly stated, if you can come up with\na study which even *hints* at a consistent clutch ability, I would\nlove it!  However the straightforward attempts at such a study have\nall failed miserably.\n\n\nWell, it was a stupid argument.  (Are you honestly debating that???)\nSure, we know Sabo didn't get a hit.  We have no idea whether Samuel\nwould have done any better or not.  One AB most certainly doesn't\nprove anything!\n\n\nIs this simply a prediction for Chris Sabo for this year?  Or is this\na prediction for *all* batters who have, over the past few years, hit\n(xxx amount?)  worse in the clutch than overall?\n\nIf you mean the first, then as you say, we'll just have to wait and\nsee.  But the second is a much stronger statement.  In fact, it\nsuggests a rule.  We can then test this rule on past data to see if it\nworked for recent years.  I think you will agree that if the rule\ndidn't work last year or the year before, that it is unlikely to do\nany better this year.  Right?\n\n\nI'm not going to get into case analysis.  Sure, you can find somebody\nwho hit poorly from '89-'91 and then hit poorly in '92 as well.  You\ncan also find those who hit poorly from '89-'91 and then hit *well* in\n'92.\n\n\nGambler's fallacy.  Unless there is reason to expect consistency, a\nrun proves nothing.  Can you give us a reason to expect clutch BA to\ncorrelate from one year to the next?  I've seen a detailed study of\nwhy I *shouldn't* expect it to correlate.\n\n\nThe \"stupid\" was in reference to a statement which *was* stupid.  (And\nI don't see how you can deny it.)  As for \"total idiot\"?  Yes.  If you\nprove yourself unwilling to even *consider* evidence that might\nsuggest that you are wrong, I would say the term fits nicely.\n\nSo tell me?  Does the term fit?  Or do you have an open mind?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nTranslation of the above paragraph:\n\"I am uninformed about the evidence for evolution.  Please send me the\ntalk.origins FAQs on the subject.\"\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"BLUES PLAYOFF SCORING THROUGH END OF NORRIS SEMIFINALS \n------------------------------------------------------\n\nPS #   NAME                GP   G   A  Pts.   +\/-  PIM  PP  SH  GW  EN\n-- --  ----                --  --  --  ----   ---  ---  --  --  --  --\nRW 16  Brett Hull           4   5   3    8    +2    0   4   0   2   0\n C 15  Craig Janney         4   2   4    6    +1    0   1   0   2   0\n D 21  Jeff Brown           4   1   5    6    +1    4   0   0   0   0\nLW 19  Brendan Shanahan     4   2   3    5     0    6   2   0   0   0 \n C  7  Nelson Emerson       4   1   2    3    +1    2   0   0   0   0\nRW  9 *Denny Felsner        4   1   1    2    +2    2   0   0   0   0 \nLW 10  Dave Lowry           4   1   0    1    +2    2   0   1   0   0\nLW 17  Basil McRae          4   0   1    1    +1    2   0   0   0   0\nLW 14  Kevin Miller         4   0   1    1    -1    2   0   0   0   0\nRW 23  Rich Sutter          4   0   0    0     0    2   0   0   0   0\n C 28  Bob Bassen           4   0   0    0    -1    6   0   0   0   0\nLW 36 *Philippe Bozon       4   0   0    0     0    0   0   0   0   0\n C 18  Ron Wilson           4   0   0    0    -2    4   0   0   0   0\n D  5  Garth Butcher        4   0   0    0    +1    2   0   0   0   0\n D 33  Stephane Quintal     4   0   0    0    +1    0   0   0   0   0\n D 44 *Bret Hedican         4   0   0    0     0    8   0   0   0   0\n D 34  Murray Baron         4   0   0    0    -1    8   0   0   0   0\n D  4  Rick Zombo           4   0   0    0    -1    10  0   0   0   0\n G 31  Curtis Joseph        4   0   0    0     0    0   0   0   0   0\n D  6  Doug Crossman        0   0   0    0     0    0   0   0   0   0\n C 22  Ron Sutter           0   0   0    0     0    0   0   0   0   0\nRW 38 *Igor Korolev         0   0   0    0     0    0   0   0   0   0\nRW 39  Kelly Chase          0   0   0    0     0    0   0   0   0   0\n D  2  Curt Giles           0   0   0    0     0    0   0   0   0   0\n G 29 *Guy Hebert           0   0   0    0     0    0   0   0   0   0\n\n*  Rookie\n\nGOALTENDING\n-----------\n                   GP  Min.   GA    Avg.   W   L   EN  SO  SA  SAVE%\n31  Curtis Joseph   4  251     6    1.43   4   0    0  2   140 .957 \n29 *Guy Hebert      0   00     0    0.00   0   0    0  0   00   --- \n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n Team Totals        4  251     6    1.43   4   0    0  2   140 .957 \n\nSO -- Shutouts ; SA -- Shots Against.\n\nGoals                 13        6 \n1st Period            4         1 \n2nd Period            3         4 \n3rd Period            5         1 \nOvertime              1         0 \nPower-play goals      7\/29      1\/24 \nShort-handed goals    1         0 \nEmpty-net goals       0         0 \nShots                 97        140 ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Does anyone know what the domestic content is of any of these:\nGeo Prizm, Eagle Talon, Ford Probe\n\n?\n\nAll are made in the US, but I have been told they contain mostly\nforeign parts.  Please follow up directly to me, I'll post the\nfindings to the net if there is interest.\n\nThanks!\nTim Newman","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"%\n% I can't haul my big dic. around on my bike...\n%\n\n   ...or is it a boast?\n\n-- \n   ------------------------------------------------------------------------\n  | John Little  - gaijin@Japan.Sun.COM  - Sun Microsystems. Atsugi, Japan | ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nI think they are really neat to put onto key rings.  When somebody\nmakes the mistake of asking about it, you can *totally* geek out.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nIt's my understanding that Romans 9:13 \"As it is written, Jacob have I\nloved, but Esau have I hated.\" refers not to the two individuals, but\nrather to their offspring, the tribe of Jacob and the tribe of Esau\n\nSee Obadiah, for example.  In fact, if you scan through the OT, you\nwill find similar references to the two tribes.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"[Motor-Voter stuff]\n\n       Well, there does have to be a line.  And to be honest, extending\nvoter registration to DMVs is hardly analogous to having only one\nplace for registration in Alaska and opening a new one in Atlanta.  More is \nnot always better once you've passed a certain point.\n\n\n       I thought the Motor Voter bill passed.\n\n       In any case, my experiance with Tennessee's voter registration\nsystem (which you can register with by mail, by the way) is that nobody\nwho is interested in voting is being denied access to registration.\nAll it requires is just the tiniest bit of interest on the registrant's\npart and thinking about the election once in the eleven months prior to\nit.  (Once you register it's good unless you miss for years worth of\nelections of move.)\n\n       It's easy to register now.  I simply don't see the value in going\nout and trying to get people registered who don't have enough gumption to\neven write and have the proper forms sent to them.   How can we expect\nresponsible decisions out of these people?\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Hi.\n\nMy wife has aquired some thyroidal (sp?) deficiency over the past year\nthat gives symptoms such as needing much sleep, coldness and proneness\nto gaining weight. She has been to a doctor and taken the ordinary (?)\ntests and her values were regarded as low. The doctor (and my wife) are\nnot very interested in starting medication as this \"deactivates\" the \ngland, giving life-long dependency to the drug (hormone?). The last couple of \nmonthes she has been seeing a hoemoepath (sp?) and been given\nsome drops to re-activate either her thyroidal gland and\/or the \n'message-center' in the brain (sorry about the approximate language,\nbut I haven't got many clues to what the english terms are, but the \nbrain-area is called the 'hypofyse' in norwegian.) \n\nMy questions are: has anyone had\/heard of success in using this approach?\nHer values have been (slowly but) steadily sinking, any comment on the\nprobability of improvement? Although the doctor has told her to 'eat\nnormally', my wife has dieted vigorously to keep her weight as she feels\nthat is part of keeping an edge over the illness\/condition, may this\naffect the treatment, development?\n\nI can get the exact figures for her tests for anyone interested, and I\nwill greatly value any information\/opinion\/experience on this topic.\n\nI don't intend this post to be either a flaming of the established\nmedical profession or a praise for alternatives, I am just relaying\nevents as they have happened.\n\nSincerely,","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nYour wrong.  Never give up.  Update your program as much as possible, with a\nvery low price of upgrade to registered users (and *PLEASE* make sure you keep\na list of registered numbers!)...\n\n--\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nGeorge Gruschow                                Death do you gronk.\nag625@yfn.ysu.edu                              ggruscho@nyx.cs.du.edu","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nI just saw a picture of the '94 Mustang in Popular Mechanics - what \na disappointment after being bombarded with pictures of the Mach III...","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I agree with you Harry, however you must also concede then that\nArab terrorism is also a tragedy of war.  remember that the\nPalestinians have no other effective target but civilians in\norder to further their cause.  If Irgun had to attack civilian\ntargets to terrorize in order that they might obtain some\nobjective, I'm sure they would have done so.  I also don't\nexclude Irgun's action against British soldiers as terrorism.\nThe British were showing signs of favoring a compromise with\nregards to Palestine, and the Irgun and branch off groups made\na point to kill young British recruits so that mothers and\nfathers back in Britain would get angry at Britains continued\npresence in Palestine.  Sounds like a form of terrorism to me,\nand not much removed from Arab terrorism.  We must not also\nforget that Irgun, or Irgun branch off groups [more likely]\nkilled many jews who were not as hardline zionist as they, or\nwho cooperated with the British.  \n\tI'll reiterate again.... both sides are screwy, but\nI'll favor the underdog in this case because I do think they\nwere a bit screwed.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\tB urn\n\tA ll\n\tT he\n\tF uckers\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nI believe that things are getting mixed here.\nCritizicing Israel and\/or being anti-zionist is not seeing \"the absolute \nnegatives of that culture\". Maybe, because a person can see the positives \nof that culture is that that person opposes zionism and the actions of the\nState of Israel.\nI, for one, consider the actions of the State of Israel with respect to\nthe human rights of the Palestinian people as an example of an action thaty\nopposes what Jewish culture was suppose to uphold as an example of \nrespect and what the Jewish people learned about oppresion, segregation and\nyears in the diaspora.\n\n\n\nHe might not want to recognize that. It does not make him a self-hating\nJew, as far as I see it. At most, he is a person who is not telling\nthe truth.\n\n\n\nBut, so far, it seems that the blame is always put on \"the other\".\nIf you read this newsgroup, for example, Israel is never guilty by\nherself. She is always responding to the actions of the \"other\", and\nit goes as if the actions of Isreal do not also affect the response\nof the \"other' in a cycle that never ends. Also, there is blindness to\ntry to understand what the other feels and why.\nThere is always and excuse. There is always a rationale to explain why\nthings happen as they do.\nAnd, what is the worst part for me, there seems to be all the time an\nintention to try to de-humanize the \"other\", as if the other did not\ncare about their future, children, peace, etc, etc.\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Of course you do.  You married it a while ago, remember?\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Hello. I have a question (or two) about the serial ports for the\npowerbooks (specifically the 145 with system 7.0.1). Is there a\ndifference between the serial ports on the powerbooks versus\nany other mac, say plus or ii?? I have heard, though not confirmed\nby apple that the serial ports have problems at high speeds.\n\nI also heard that sys 7.1's new power manager 'fixes' this problem\nallowing speeds just as any other serial port.\n\nMy particular use is that I have a 6811 EVB board that I need to\ninterface with my powerbook via the modem port at 9600 baud. \nCurrently, we are interfacing using mac pluses.  I set everything\nup just as in lab and nothing.  In fact, the powerbook locks up.\n\nCan anyone help, inform, advise? I would appreciate it.  \nI would prefer email since I don't read the news at all.\nI will post a summary if enough response is generated.\n\nThanks. \n\nFaisal M. Bhamani\nfaceman@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nwhich flat 4 engines have I4 style cranks?\n\n\ni am 99.99% sure that subaru (and porsche) use the boxer configuration\nand not the inline 4 crank that you analyzed and compared. would you\ncare to re-evaluate the other case of a flat four?  i think that this\nconfiguration is perfectly balanced as far as primary, secondary\nforces and couples are concerned.  i have an article in front of me\nthat says so.\n\n\nthe flat four is also shorter than an inline 4, so even if it is mounted\nlongitudinally it will not take up lots of length.. and a longitudinal\nplacement is easier for a 4 wheel drive drivetrain.\n\ni think that subaru's ads hold water.  in practice, their flat fours\nare noticeably smoother than inline 4s and completely buzz free,\nthough some may not like its peculiar note.  but as alfa has shown, a\nboxer four can produce a spine tingling scream that only the likes of\nrecent hondas can approach.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Poor person's Kirlian Photography (try this at home)","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Ranma 1\/2 pt2 professionally converted to play on SNES.  Asking $60 or  \nwilling to trade for SNES: SimEarth or Dragonball Z","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n\nIt is for a business and the end product has to be a photograph.\nI take damaged black and whites, usually old, some very, and repair them\nby hand at present.  I would like to do this by using a computer.\nI am just trying to find a vendor who can convert my computer stored\nimages to negatives or thermal print.  The customer will want his\/her\ncopy as much as possible like a brand new original photgraph.\n\n\n-- David","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nMay I tease out a sub-thread from this discussion?\n\nCan you all please tell me how to remove  the stickers from new houses'\nappliances and outdoor lampposts?  Especially the lamppost, right on\nthe glass.  Isn't there something you can rub into stuck-on labels that\nwill release them from their death-grip on glass or other hard surfaces?\n\nMany thanks for any help.  \n\n                                              John","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\tDon't worry.  This is a perfectly normal state of affairs.  Had they\nactually been using him, you should be worried.\n\n\n\tHe's recovered totally from his injury.  That's why he's not\npitching...so he can rest his arm enough that he can get injured again\npitching on 38 days rest and then have fun dining in the Diamond Club in\nShea Stadium while AY struggles every day out there...\n\n\n\tI've be quite happy to drop John Franco, just the same.\n\tBring back Randy Myers!\n\tNo, better make that...Bring Back Neil Allen!\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Ok I want to get a color Mac I don't care if it is an LC or a Mac II or\nwhat but I want to go to a color machine.  I'd prefer to trade my\npresent Mac SE system plus some cash or other equipment for the color\nsystem as right now I'm not full of the $$$ to buy a color system\noutright.\nHere's what my Mac SE system has...\n\nMac SE 4\/20 with internal 800K drive\n20 Meg external\nExternal 800K drive\nImageWriter II with 4 color ribbon\n\nStuff that can go with it......\nI'm willing to include both of the 9600 modems and the 2400 baud modem\nif the deal is right.  Keep in mind that both the 9600 modems are less\nthan a month old and the MultiTech modem sells for about $440 or so.\n\nMultiTech Multimodem II (9600 data\/fax)\nU.S. Robotics Sportster (9600 data)\nMicrocom QX\/12K         (normally will connect at only 2400 as highest\nbut it will do faster if connected to another Microcom)\n\nThe USR and the MultiTech are both brand-new\n\nIf interested send me e-mail at dleonard@wixer.bga.com","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nHmm.  This is certainly among the things I would refer to as quack\ntherapy and would tend to refer to any practitioner who prescribed\nlaetrile (whether licensed or not) as a quack.  There are unethical\nbehaviors (such as ordering unneccessary tests to increase fees)\nwhich I would not lable as quackish, but prescribing known ineffective\ntherapies seems to me to be one of the hallmarks of a quack.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nNote that this ominous prospect is fueled by the fact that various SC\nand Prime outlets are wholly or partly owned by local NHL owners.\nWhen\/If Cablevision VP Chuck Dolan's purchase of the Islanders goes\nthrough, the Islanders will be back solidly in the SCNY fold (their\noriginal owners were, and they've remained due to a lucrative TV\ncontract).  The Flyer Snyders own the Philadelphia SC as well as the\nPrism pay channel.  There are six teams affiliated with regional SC's,\nanother half dozen affiliated with Prime outlets, and other locals\nlike HTS and NESN who have barter arrangements.  With all this\ncross-ownership, I was surprised that ESPN got the deal this \nseason!!\n\ngld","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nI've heard of NO studies, but speculation:\n\nWhy on _earth_ would there be any effect on women's health?  That's about \nthe most absurd idea I've heard since Ted Kaldis's claim that no more than \n35,000 people would march on Washington.\n\nOk, _one_ point:  Greatly reduced chance of pregnancy.  But that's it.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nNote: BMW doesnt always follow this convention.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Put me down for a PB100 4\/20 with ext. floppy, AppleTalk Remote Acces,\nAC adapter, and fresh out of box (was used, but buyer switched to 140\non arrival and sold unopened box. Purchased last October for $925.\nLater I bought a used PowerPort V.32 9600 bps internal fax-modem for\nsomething like $225, I'm using right now! Works great!  :)\n\nNo real complaints. I love my portable system (got a color home setup\nalso. Mac II). Reasoning was that MATLAB programs at school and other\nsimulations of dynamic control systems sometimes took hours (or\novernight) to run, tying up my Mac II. I got the PB100 with fast modem\nto do light work and on-the-run stuff. I figured I'd give it to my\nlittle sister next year when she goes to college. It's running System\n7.1 now without any problems. Also I sometimes do DEC4015 terminal\nemulations with MATLAB on our university's VAX_VMS (nice thing that it\nbenchmarks itself as an average of 230 times faster than a mac IIfx).\nSo, the PB100 just does graphical output and terminal emulation (not\ntoo hard at all for it). It was a FABULOUS setup !!!!  :)  Weeee!!!\n\n(By the Way, all MATLAB software was on class accounts. I was also the\nTA for a class that used SIMULAB\/SIMULINK. We had site-license and\ntake-home, then-destroy later site-release licenses... No pirating\nthere, incase you're wondering.... Great Program!!! )\n\nJust like to add, whatever future system you get, you can almost never\nget enuff memory.... Buy it while it's cheap - that is buy it when you\nget the computer since it's usually cheaper than upgrading... I ALWAYS\nrun out of disk space... But I have a syquest on the Mac IIsi, so I\nnever worried about space before... Got several carts).","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n: Well, now, Doc, I sure would not want to bet my life on those little\n: critters not being able to get thru one layer of sweat-soaked cotton\n: on their way to do their programmed task.  Infrequent, yes, unlikely,\n: yes, but impossible?  I learned a long time ago never to say never in\n: medicine   <g>                        Len Howard MD, FACOG\n\nYes, I suppose a single layer of wet cotton would be feasible.  After all,\nwe certainly do not make condoms out of cotton!] ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Hi netters,\n\nQuantum LPS 240AT harddisk forsale.\n\n3.5\" frame, 1\/3 height.\nIDE format, master or slave\n723 cyl 13 hd 51 s\/t = 234.9 real megs\nAccess time of 16 ms.\n256K cache on the drive\n\nAsking $300. ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I have a mystery part labeled NEC AC100.  It's from the low voltage\nsupply of an NEC Multisync I monitor.  It's a three lead part in a\nsquare package like a volate regulator or power transistor.  The board\nis labeled CR691 where the part goes.  (Possibly an SCR?)  The pin\nlabeled G on the board goes to a zener diode (reference voltage?); the\npin labeled T1 goes to the negative lead of a capacitor in the power\nsupply, and the pin labeled T2 goes to the negative side of the bridge\nrectifier in the supply.\n\n    If anyone can tell me what this is, or better yet, where I can buy\none just like it, please email me at ck3i@andrew.cmu.edu.  I've called\nNEC's \"monitor repair number\" and not only do they not know what the\npart is, but they don't think that they can find one to sell to me... \nIt makes no sense to me...","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Having read in the past about the fail-safe mechanisms on spacecraft, I had\nassumed that the Command Loss Timer had that sort of function.  However I\nalways find disturbing the oxymoron of a \"NO-OP\" command that does something.\nIf the command changes the behavior or status of the spacecraft it is not\na \"NO-OP\" command.\n\nOf course this terminology comes from a Jet Propulsion Laboratory which has\nnothing to do with jet propulsion.\n\n-- ","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nIn order to emit blue light, a semiconductor must have a band gap energy\nwithin the region of 2.6 to 2.8 electron Volts. According to my physical\nelectronics prof, you can't get an LED with that band gap. That's why you\ndon't find blue LEDs or, for that matter, some other colour of LEDs. That\nis not to say that blue LEDs can't be found.  I've seen 'blue' LEDs sold,\nbut they were just your typical visible light LED in a blue plastic covering.\nThey didn't emit very much light...\n\nSource: Solid State Electronic Devices (Ben G. Streetman, 3d ed., Prentice\nHall)\n-- \n-----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\"Right planet, wrong universe\" - Douglas Adams\n\"If we took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy\" - Mr. Whizzo","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"sure the\nway is\non\ndifferent\n\nOkay, so what do you do if some part of the machine (presumably the part  \non which the code number or whatever that the program has fixated itself  \nupon goes bad, you replace that part, and now your program won't run  \nbecause it's on a \"different\" computer???\n\nThis is, of course, assuming that the program uses something in ROM (like  \nthe BIOS serial number, maybe?) and not a disk-based code number.   \nObviously if the drive goes bad you'll be reinstalling the stuff anyway.\n\nI work in a computer lab which is part of the university microlab system.   \nWe have the wonderfully fun task of maintaining well over a hundred  \nmachines, both PC and Macintosh, as well as administering a network of  \nover 50 NeXT machines.  I personally am concerned only with a small lab  \nwith ten PC's and ten Mac's.  (I'm not the manager, but help him with  \nadmin often).  IMHO, copy-protection schemes of ANY sort are nothing more  \nthan a major headache for the legitimate user.  Anyone who wants a copy of  \nyour program and doesn't care about legality will get a copy.  Period.   \n\"Pirate board\" or no pirate board.  I too have \"friends\" who blatantly and  \nquite successfuly \"hack\" copy protection schemes practically in their  \nsleep.\n\nLet's consider what goes on in our lab.  Almost daily we have at least one  \nmachine down, sometimes several, due to some goofball screwing up some  \nsetting or other on a piece of software.  Admittedly, we (being students,  \nmostly) are not the world's most efficient and effective network  \nadministrators, but we try.  Keeping even the twenty machines that are  \n(partly) my responsibility even vaguely looking and \"acting\" similar to  \nthe average user, and maintaining \"behind-the-scenes\" consistency is a  \nreal headache, but not so bad a headache as trying to remember twenty  \ndifferent folder locations of Norton Utilities when some guy trashes his  \ndisk.\n\nOften we have hardware problems at peak \"business\" times and have to do  \nsome parts-swapping to get stuff working temporarily. . . .\n\nWell, I'll cut to the chase and quit boring y'all . . ..\n\nThe point is, often we have to re-install software and copy configuration  \nfiles etc. from machine to machine.  By far the easiest way we have found  \nto do this is to get ONE machine working EXACTLY the way we want to, then  \nCOPY the complete setup of this machine to the other nine (of that  \nmachine's type).  This ensures us that (for at least ten minutes) we have  \nten IDENTICAL machines to work with.  Having them networked simplifies  \nthis considerably, as our major packages (WordPerfect, Windows, etc.) are  \nall network versions and thus only one copy to mess with.\n\nOften, however, we need to install a package requested by some instructor  \nto one, some, or all of the machines for a special project.  This is  \nusually a hand-written or shareware,etc. program similar to what I believe  \nthe original poster was asking about.  The few we have had with \"copy  \nprotection\" schemes have caused nothing but NIGHTMARES for us to maintain  \n . .\n\nIn short, don't waste your time with a copy protection scheme.  It's sort  \nof like outlawing guns.  The criminals will get your program anyway, and  \nyou will only be hurting the legitimate, honest user.  Write a good user's  \nguide and tech manual, whatever else for your program (PLEASE do this  \nREGARDLESS of whether you copy protect the thing!!!), and only distribute  \nthe manual to LICENSED users.  Jack the price to cut your losses, but  \nplease take a cue from the major companies (who can admittedly afford the  \ncosts of illegal copies far better than you) and don't burden the  \nlegitimate user with a \"copy protection\" scheme!\n\n\nSorry for the tirade, but it's been a long day here . . .. :-)\n\n\nMark S. Underwood\nEE Student, University of Kentucky\nLab Assistant, Boyd Hall Microlab \n\t(a tiny little division of UK Library Microlabs)\nE-Mail:  msunde01@mik.uky.edu\n\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nThe 68070 is made by someone other than Motorola (Signetics perhaps),\nand was (if memory serves me correctly) a 68000 compatible single chip\nmicro type chip. IE built in extra toys like serial ports, ram\ninterfaces etc. So, laugh all you want, but there is such a critter!","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nIn the kind I have made I used a Lite sour cream instead of yogurt.  May not\nbe as good for you, but I prefer the taste.  A few small bits of cuke in\naddition to the grated cuke may also finish the sauce off nicely.\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Well everybody,\n\nAfter reading tons of notes by Serdar, I have come to the following conclusion.   \nTurkey is PERFECT, and no Turk has ever made a mistake.  He has proved to me at  \nleast that the land occupied by Turkey today, was ALWAYS lived in peacefully by  \nTurks.  (Including Istanbul AKA Constantinople)  They treat their minorities  \nlike gods and have only done good while all of their evil neighbors attacked  \nthem.  Somehow, despite these evil neighbors capable of nothing but murder  \ntheir population has exploded to almost 60 million in Turkey alone. (Note,  \nArmenian worldwide population is approximately 7 million total)  I want to go  \nto this heaven on earth and meet the race that has made Serdar possible, that  \nhas persevered, and has become a mecca for human rights lovers.  (Amnesty  \nInternational must have bad sources, Turkey would never torture its citizens,  \ntreat minorities badly, or kidnap 7 foreign journalists last year alone, who  \nincidentally are still missing), what I am trying to say is I WANT TO BE A  \nTURK!!!!\n\nNow back to reality.  I have once again been astounded by Serdars ability to  \nignore all truth, all truly difficult questions, and go on to his encyclopedia  \nof quotes and sources that can be pasted into any note BY THE PAGE!  Anybody at  \nall who has believed ANYTHING he has said, please step forward.  Let him know  \nhe hasn't been wasting his time, that SOMEBODY out there can be convinced by  \nthe volume of e-mail you can produce, not the quality of the content. Well I am  \noff now.  I will go dream  some more about that perfect place, that nirvana,  \nthat utopia, that xanadu, that TURKEY!  ","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Hello,\n    I'm trying to use the BIOS timer interrupts (which occur every .055\nseconds, or 18.2 times a second) to time people's response times, in a\npsychology experiment, and the response times are on the order of .01\nseconds. Is there any way I can get better precision than by counting\nticks? Or can I make the ticks occur more frequently? I'm trying to do\nthis in DOS 5.0 on a 386, and it would be nice if this could also work\non our old 8086 machines running DOS 2.1 (I know, I know, I don't like\nthem any more than you do) but this is by no means a requirement, just a\npossibility. \n    So, basically, any information on the BIOS tick scheme and the\nrelated inrterruots would be appreciated, as well as any information on\nalternate ways of improving accuracy. Email is preferred, as I'm\nplanning on posting this to a few boards, and I don't read all of them.\nThanks","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Doesn't seem like those responsible for the assault were very concerned\nabout the welfare of the children inside.  Seems like they were more\ninterested in flexing their muscle before the media.  My reasoning?\nJust ask yourself this one question:\n\nSuppose the scenario was slightly different and we had Chelsea Clinton\nbeing kidnapped by terrorists, holed up in a compound for 51 days.\nDo you think Clinton, Reno, the FBI, and the ATF would be so eager\nto use a show of force?\n\nNuff said.\n\n\n-- \nRichard Mulac                                       ck347@cleveland.freenet.edu","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"(alt.security.clipper added, to keep them informed of this issue)\n\n\n....\n: The proposal could be modified so that if they get a court order to tap you\n: and don't charge you with a crime within, say, 90 days, they have to buy you\n: a new phone.\n: \n: If they do charge you, and you are found innocent, they have to buy you a\n: new phone.\n: \n: :-)\n\nYes, but will they buy you a ticket on a time machine to allow you to\ngo back and use the phone with the new key instead of the phone whose\nkey they obtained?\n\nIt is unclear whether obtaining the key at time 0 also unlocks\nmessages recorded (by whomever) at earlier times. The announcement was\nsilent on this. The betting seems to be that once your key has been\nobtained (by the authorities, by divorce lawyers, by the Mafia, by the\nFBI, by lost or stolen backup tapes, by the NSA, etc.). all previous\nconversations are unsecure. (Session keys are negotiated, but knowing\nthe private key is believed by many commentators here to break the\nsecurity. No doubt more details will emerge.)\n\nSo, the loss of a key, whether one is guilty or innocent, may mean a lot\nmore than merely replacing the phone.\n\nSort of like saying to someone, \"Oh, I copied your diary. But I'll buy\nyou a new one.\"\n\n\nAnd the system, if made mandatory (as I expect), will make such\nstoring of conversations much easier, I fear. For one thing, the\ntransmission of the escrow key field acts as a clear signal to anyone\nlistening, a kind of \"Caller ID\" and \"Callee ID\" on a grand scale.\nAlso, the phone companies may not care as much about protecting the\nprivacy of the calls, as they perceive them all to be useless\nencrypted junk. (This is a bit of a reach, I know, suggesting that the\nClipper will make security more lax...).\n\nAnyway, still lots of issues unresolved.\n\n\n-Tim May\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n   _The_ problem with Oort cloud sources is that absolutely\n   no plausible mechanism has been proposed. It would have\n   to involve new physics as far as I can tell. Closest to\n   \"conventional\" Oort sources is a model of B-field pinching\n   by comets, it's got too many holes in it to count, but at\n   least it was a good try...\n\nSo you have a plausible model for GRB's at astronomical distances?\nRecent observations have just about ruled out the merging neutron star\nhypothesis, which had a lot of problems, anyhow.  We have to look for\nimplausible models and what is fundamentally allowed independent of\nmodels.\n\nA paper on the possibility of GRB's in the Oort cloud just came\nthrough the astrophysics abstract service.  To get a copy of this\npaper, send a message to astro-ph@babbage.sissa.it with the subject\nline \n  get 9304001\n\n\nHere is the abstract of that paper.\n\n   The currently favored explanation for the origin of \\GRBs puts them\n   at cosmological distances;\n   but as long as there is no distance\n   indicator to these events all possible sources which are\n   isotropically distributed should remain under consideration. This is\n   why the Oort cloud of comets is kept on the list,\n   although there is no known mechanism for generating \\GRBs\n   from cometary nuclei. Unlikely as it may seem, the possibility that \\GRBs\n   originate in the solar cometary cloud\n   cannot be excluded until it is disproved.\n\n   We use the available data on the distribution of \\GRBs (the BATSE\n   catalogue up to March, 1992), and\n   the Catalogue of Cometary Orbits  by Marsden and Williams (1992) to\n   investigate whether there is any observational indication for correlations\n   between the angular distributions of \\GRBs and comets' aphelia,\n   assuming that the distribution of aphelia direction reflect,\n   at least to some extent, true variations\n   in the column density of the Oort cloud. We also apply the $\\vov$\n   test to both distributions.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I heard a short blurb on the news yesterday about an herb called feverfew (?)\nthat some say is good for preventing migraines. I think the news said there\nwere two double-blind studies that found this effective.\n\nDoes anyone know about these studies? Or have experience with feverfew?\nI'm skeptical, but open to trying it if I can find out more about this.\nWhat is feverfew, and how much would you take to prevent migraines (if \nthis is a good idea, that is)? Are there any known risks or side effects\nof feverfew? ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nThe whole \"saddam is going to invade Saudi Arabia\" was nothing but US State\nDepartment propeganda.  Saddam (and Iraq in general) never recognised the \nBritish created Kuwait.  They were trying to recover land they believed\nwas theirs, much like the Argentines in the Faulklands.  The Kuwaitis pushed\njust a little too far by taking Iraqi oil and Saddam thought he'd settle\nthe dispute the old fashioned way...\nEverybody would have been much better off had they left the reunited Iraq\ntogether and concentrated on taking out Saddam.  A strong, united Iraq with\nan elected government would have gone a long way to ridding the world of\nthe feudal dictatorships in the Gulf.\nBut of course a weak divided Arab people better suits US foriegn policy...","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"ITEMS FOR SALE\n\n\n\n\nI will take offers for the following items. I reserve the\nright to refuse any offers. \n\n\n1. Howard Miller Clock. It chimes like a grandfather clock. \n\n2. Painting- A Tiger in the snow. It is a beautiful painting, the tiger\n   looks like it can jump off of the canvas and get you. \n\n3. Mens Diamond Ring, size 10 \na. 3 rows of diamonds\nb. 18k gold\n\nCall or email me.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n: Are you saying that their was a physical Adam and Eve, and that all humans are direct decendents of only these two human beings.?  Then who were Cain and Able's wives?  Couldn't be their sisters, because A&E didn't have daughters.  Were they non-humans?\n\nOkay all humans are direct descendents of of a bunch of hopeful\nmonsters. The human race didn't evolve from one set parents, but from\nthousands. Do you really base your atheist on -this-?\n\n: Considering that something like 4 out of 5 humans on this planet don't know instinctively that the Christian god exist, the claim of instinctive knowledge doesn't look like it hold much water.  Or are you saying that the 4 billion non-Christians in the world must fight this instinctive urge to acknowledge God and JC.\n\nDid I say that people were Christians by nature or did I say that\nChristians hold that everyone knows of the God the Christians worship.\nI would have thought the distinction obvious, sorry. Read my post\nagain and see what I -really- said; from what you've written, I think\nyou are just being agumentative. Also your word-wrap is screwed up or\nyou need to shift to 80 columns text ...","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nRome was under attack by barbarians, they sent for advice to some Oracle,\nand she said Worship Cybele and you'll be saved. They did, they were.\n\nCybele was the quintessential wiccan goddess, there was Her and her son &\nlover, Attis. Yucky idea if you ask me. OK the book says she was Phrygian,\nfrom the neolithic matriarchal society Catal Huyuk (Turkey). Worshipped 1st\nas Black Stone (that Kaaba in Mecca ring a bell maybe????) Carried to Rome\nin 205BC to save them from Hannibal.\n\nIt gets more interesting. Romans called her Great Mother (Magna Mater),\ncould be the reason why so many of those Mary statues in Europe are black,\nprob. IS connected to that Ka'aba they've got in Mecca, 3rd cent. AD She was\nsupreme Goddess in Lyons, France . . . Attis was castrated and formed into\na pine tree . . . she should be worshiped on 25 Mar . . . in Rome it was\nan ecstatic cult, her priests wore drag, worked themselves up in dance and\ncastrated themselves in order to initiate to her, lived their lives as women.\nThey wore make up and jewelry and the whole bit.\n\nWow.\n\nOnly other such primitive transsexualism I know of goes on in India (where\nelse?) where they do that castration thing under some meditation maybe, I\nforget by now...there's a book on that.)\n\nOf course, that excepts that weird Russian \/ Romanian 18th cent. Xian cult\nthat did all kinds of self-castration too, I forget their name.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\tI don't think that this should be worked on just in the context\nof cryptography. That's sure to pose all sorts of problems for all sorts\nof people.\n\n\tWhat's needed is for someone to develop a portable telephone\nquality speech<->RS232 converter. Imagine, if you will, a little box that\ntakes data on its serial port and puts out sound, and takes sound and codes\nit to signals on its serial port. Full duplex. Now, this device is not a\ncryptographic device. It's a portable poor man's sound blaster or whatever\nyou want to call it. It's got loads of perfectly legitimate applications\nfor:\n\ta) speech synthesis (with a few nifty libraries and some samples)\n\tb) speech recording for electronic messaging\n\tc) building voicemail systems\n\td) internet talk radio\n\te) internet relay chat\n\n\tOf course, some of the electronic messaging in item b might be\nencrypted, possibly realtime, but that's the user's decision. One would\nneed 2 of these talky boxes and a pair of modems and some kind of cutout\nto switch over, and some code on, say, a 486 laptop.\n\n\tI'd really like to see such a thing developed so that interactive\ninternet talk radio could be done. Ideally, though, it should be a general\npurpose device. It should be a general purpose enough device that nobody\nshould be able to balk at its widespread use. Obviously, to make it easy\nfor homebrewers, it should use pretty common hardware.\n\n\tIt's interesting to note that I'd already talked with a couple\nof folks about building such a thing, before this whole clipper thing\nstarted. I even went so far as to track down a couple of folks who are\nable to make sample units, given incentive and some time. I'd envisioned\nfinding a couple of folks interested in such a project and helping fund\ndevelopment of a public domain board layout and parts set, that could\nbe published in the form of CAD drawings for a couple of major CAD\npackages, and in PostScript.\n\n\tAnyone interested? I'll start a provisional mailing list. Let\nme know if you want on.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":": While I'm sure Sagan considers it sacrilegious, that wouldn't be\n: because of his doubtfull credibility as an astronomer. Modern, \n: ground-based, visible light astronomy (what these proposed\n: orbiting billboards would upset) is already a dying field: The\n: opacity and distortions caused by the atmosphere itself have\n: driven most of the field to use radio, far infrared or space-based\n: telescopes.\n\nHardly.  The Keck telescope in Hawaii has taken its first pictures; they're\nnearly as good as Hubble for a tiny fraction of the cost.\n\n: In any case, a bright point of light passing through\n: the field doesn't ruin observations. If that were the case, the\n: thousands of existing satellites would have already done so (satelliets\n: might not seem so bright to the eyes, but as far as astronomy is concerned,\n: they are extremely bright.)\n\nI believe that this orbiting space junk will be FAR brighter still;\nmore like the full moon.  The moon upsets deep-sky observation all\nover the sky (and not just looking at it) because of scattered light.\n\nThis is a known problem, but of course two weeks out of every four are\nOK.  What happens when this billboard circles every 90 minutes?  What\nwould be a good time then?\n\n:                                              Frank Crary\n:                                              CU Boulder\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nPink noise is a random signal with more low-frequency components\nthan white noise.\n\nIf you look at the frequency spectrum of white noise at a frequency\nanalyzer, you will find that the spectrum power density is flat, which\nmeans that every frequency is present in the noise signal.\n\nOften pink noise is obtained from white noise by integrating of low-pass\nfiltering a white noise signal. Therefore pink noise contains much more\nlow-frequency components.\n\nThe effect of pink noise is sometimes used to simulate thunder or roaring\nanimals. An additional low-pass filter with variable cutoff frequency will\nexplain you why.\n\nEnjoy it.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Welcome to the Peace Run\n\n                     You're invited to join in\n                     a Global Relay Run... and\n                     help light the Way.\n\n\n\n                     ----  Why the Peace Run  ----\n\nThere's a new spirit in the Nineties: a spirit of oneness, a growing\nbelief in the possibility of true global peace.\n\nThe goal of the Sri Chinmoy Oneness-Home Peace Run is simple: to\nbring this spirit forward in a concrete way, to transform it into\na reality in their own lives.\n\nEvery other year, thousands of men, women and children from more\nthan 70 nations - passing a flaming Peace Torch from hand to hand -\njoin together in a relay run that virtually circles the globe.\nTranscending political and cultural boundaries, they go from\nnation to nation - across mountains, jungles and deserts - carrying\nthe message of brotherhood to all humankind.\n\nEach person who holds or runs with the Peace Torch lights a path\nfor those who follow. Each time the Peace Torch changes hands, the\nflame of oneness burns a little brighter - until one day it will\nshine in the hearts and minds of every individual on earth.\n\n\n\t\t    ----  Making History  ----\n\nThe three Peace Runs since 1987 have achieved some historic break-\nthroughs: in the Middle East, a landmark run crossed the Egyptian-\nIsraeli border; in Europe, a precedent-setting run linked Eastern\nand Western Europe with Russia; in the United States, Mexico and\nCanada, entire cities were dedicated to the cause of world peace;\nand in Poland, the Peace Torch was blessed by Pope John Paul II.\n\n\n\t\t ----  Speaking as One: World  ----\n             ----  Leaders, Celebrities - and You  ----\n\nThe Peace Run has won the support of leaders the world over -\nPresidents, Prime Ministers, religious leaders, sports figures and\nentertainment personalities.\n\nIts message has spread to a half billion people though newspaper\nreports, magazine articles and radio and TV broadcasts, including\nspecials on PBS, MTV and NBC's Today Show.\n\nreconciliation. The world must know that God wants us to live\namicably as brothers and sisters, members of one family, the human\nfamily, God's family.\"  - Archbishop Desmond Tutu,\n\t\t\t  Nobel Peace Prize Winner\n\n\n\t\t   ----  How It All Works  ----\n\nPeace Run 1993 started with a five-borrough relay in New York\nCity on Saturday April 17, converging at various points to lead\nup to the opening ceremony outside the United Nations Dag\nHammarskjold Building. There, runners from around the world\nwere gathered for the fourth lighting of the Peace Torch.\n\nFrom there, Peace Torches are now being transported to over\nseventy countries for a series of concurrent international or\ncross-country relay runs including the United States, Canada,\nJapan, Australia, Russia and Eastern and Western Europe. Smaller\nruns will take place in the Philippines, Mexico, Israel, South\nAmerica, Egypt and elsewhere in Africa. Distance to be covered:\n31,000 miles.\n\nthe minds of those who support, participate in, witness, or hear\nabout the event.\"  - Carl Lewis,\n                     Six-Time Olympic Gold Medalist\n\n\n                  ----  Who's Behind It  ----\n\nThe Peace Run is sponsored by the Sri Chinmoy Marathon Team, an\ninternational running organization that believes sports can be a\npowerful instrument for promoting world peace. Each year the Team\nputs on hundreds of athletic events, including several world-class\nultramarathons, marathons and triathlons, in dozens of countries.\n\nThe Peace Run itself is inspired by the global peace ambassador\nSri Chinmoy, who has written and lectured extensively on peace,\noffered hundreds of free peace concerts and met with countless\nworld figures to advance the cause of international harmony.\n\nThe Run is managed by Peace Runs International, a non-profit\norganization based in the United States.\n\n\n               ----  Take a Step For Peace  ----\n\nThe Peace Runs in 1987, 1989 and 1991 attracted nearly half a\nmillion participants. We're expecting even more people to join\nPeace Run '93.\n\nYou can also join the Run - carrying the Peace Torch a few steps,\na few blocks or a few miles. Or you can come out and cheer the\nrunners as they carry the Torch through your community.\n\nYou can also join local celebrities and government officials in\none of the thousands of welcoming ceremonies scheduled along the\n70-nation route.\n\nYour inner support is important too. If you're a runner, each time\nyou go out, you can dedicate your run to the cause of world peace.\n\n\n\t\t ----  The Next Step is Yours  ----\n\t\t ----  Make It One For Peace  ----\n\n\nFor information contact:\nPeace Runs International\n161-44 Normal Road\nJamaica, NY 11432 USA\ntel. 718\/291-6637  Fax: 718\/291-6978\n\nPeace Run Canada\n2456 Agricola Street\nHalifax, Nova Scotia  B3K 4C2\ntel. 902\/425-1174  Fax: 902\/420-0773","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nI don't agree, but I can only speak for myself.  I have a good friend\nwhose lifestyle is very sinful.  Do I hate the things she does to herself\nand others?  Yes.  Do I hate her?  Absolutely not.  In fact, she tells me\nrepeatedly that I am the best friend she has in the world.  I care about\nher very much despite the fact that I hate how she lives her life.\n\nIt's very easy to fall into the progression you describe above.  I've\nfelt it with my friend more than once.  There is a very important \npart of Christianity that you've overlooked above and makes it possible\nto \"love the sin but hate the sinner.\"  Before I look at someone\nelse's life and sin, I look to myself and am as disgusted by what I see\nin *me* as I see in others, probably more.  Self-righteousness is\ncontradictory to Christianity and is what makes the progression you\ndescribe happen.  If a Christian can truthfully quote Paul and say, \"Wretched\nman that I am!\" [Romans 7:24 (NASB)], that Christian will be able\nto love the sinner and hate the sin.  If we have the attitude of the Pharisee \nwho said, \"I thank Thee that I am not like other men...\" [Luke 18:11 (NASB)],\nwe will hate both.\n\n  -- Scott at Brandeis","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Where can I obtain a copy of the Open Look widgets?  Is it obtainable on\nthe net somewhere, or do I need to order a copy (if so, how)?\n\nThanks for any help.  Please email.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I wrote a commercial program called GAME-MAKER (can you guess what\nit does).  What we do is have a document protect (answer Question on page x, \nline y), which is a real pain.  We also allow the user to register by sending\nin a card, and computing a # based on their name.  The system works in that\nwe've gotten lots of registration cards.\n\tI hear that the program has been cracked though.  Someone two people \nactually called up my support--one with a question, the other wanting to\nbuy our graphics libraries (right!).  Anyway if anyone wants to help me\ncatch a cracker and has the cracked version, mail me.  I won't accuse\nyou (unless you're the cracker of course).\n\n--\n                                             Andy Stone      \n-\t\t\t\t\t     stonea@suned.cs.yale.edu","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Here is someones \"biblical\" claim for the characteristics of Satan:\n\n\nAnd separately:\n\n\nWe have here three distinct claims concerning the results of the devil's\ndecision making, a specific desire, and a physical description.  Now, in\nsupport (aside from the minor detail that an author seldom writes an unbiased\naccount of the opposition) we see:\n\n\nISA 14:12  How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the\nmorning!  how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken\nthe nations!\n\nISA 14:13  For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend  into\n                                              --------------------\nheaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit\n-----------------------------------------------------\nalso upon the mount of the congregation,  in  the  sides  of the north:\n\nISA 14:14  I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I  will\nbe like the most High.\n\nISA 14:15  Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to  the  sides\nof the pit.\n\n\nDoesn't say sits on God's throne.  Says will exhault throne above the stars.\n\n\nDAN 10:12  Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for  from the\nfirst  day  that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to\nchasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard,  and  I am\ncome for thy words.\n\nDAN 10:13  But the prince of the kingdom of Persia  withstood me\n                    ------------------------------\none  and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes,\n                                        ------------------------\ncame to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.\n\nDAN 10:14  Now I am come to make thee understand what  shall be-\nfall  thy  people  in  the latter days: for yet the vision is for\nmany days.\n\n\nSee who is being discussed?\n\n\n\nEZE 28:12  Son of man, take up a lamentation  upon  the  king of\n                                                     -----------\nTyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up\n-----\nthe sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.\n\nEZE 28:13  Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God;  every  pre-\ncious  stone  was  thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the dia-\nmond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the em-\nerald,  and  the  carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy ta-\nbrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that  thou\nwast created.\n\nEZE 28:14  Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have\nset  thee  so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast\nwalked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.\n\nEZE 28:15  Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day  that  thou\nwast created, till iniquity was found in thee.\n\nEZE 28:16  By the multitude of thy merchandise they  have  filled\nthe  midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore\nI will cast thee as profane out of the mountain  of  God:  and  I\nwill  destroy  thee,  O  covering  cherub,  from the midst of the\nstones of fire.\n\nEZE 28:17  Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty,  thou\nhast  corrupted  thy  wisdom  by reason of thy brightness: I will\ncast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that  they\nmay behold thee.\n\nEZE 28:18  Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of\nthine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will\nI bring forth a fire from the midst  of  thee,  it  shall  devour\nthee,  and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight\nof all them that behold thee.\n\nEZE 28:19  All they that know thee among the people shall be as-\ntonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be\nany more.\n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nI had posted that it came from a survey of registered users, I \ndouble-checked with a friendly neighborhood marketing type and\nfound there were actually two surveys. One of randomly selected\nresellers, one of randomly selected users from the 6 upgrade \nregistered user database. Both surveys showed a 93% positive\nrating.\n\n-jen\n\n-- ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"(misc.legal trimmed)\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nWell, that's the obvious conclusion, given your train of logic.  The\ncorollary then is that it must be a waste of time for the party to run\ncandidates until the educational program has shown some results.\n\nFollowups to a.p.l.\n-- ","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nMedical school ? Like your fellow Austrian Dr. Mengele ??\n\nJosh","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"This might be better directed to s.r.c.bible-study, which I have begun\nreading, but since my earlier notes were posted to this forum, I will\nconclude here as well.  A week ago, I managed to find time to consult\na Septuagint Concordance and a LXX text with apparatus at the library,\nand I can now usefully conclude my look at the Greek words for love as\nused in the Christian background of the Septuagintal translation of the\nJewish scriptures.\n\nThe principal result is that there is a cluster of uses of the verbal\nnoun from _erao:_, _eraste:s_ meaning \"lover.\"  This cluster occurs just\nwhere one might most expect it, in the propethic image (and accusation)\nof Israel as faithless spouse to YHWH.  The verses in question are Hosea\n2:5,7 & 10; Jeremiah 4:30, 22:20 & 22; Lamentations 1:19; and Ezekiel\n16:33, 36 &37 and 23:5, 9 & 22.\n\n\t[ Hosea seems to have originated this usage, which Jeremiah and\n\t  Ezekiel picked up;  Lamentations is dependent on, though not\n\t  likely written by, Jeremiah. ]\n\nThe \"erotic\" meaning (in its allegorical use, not at all literally) is\nevident.  So too in English, unless you complement it with a phrase like\n\"of the arts\" the word \"lover\" is going to have an overtone of sexual\nrelationship.  There is no surprise here, but it is worthwhile to see\nthat standard Greek usage *does* show up in the translations from the\nHebrew! :-)\n\nMore interestingly, and some confirmation of my guess that later Koine\nusage avoided the verb _erao:_ because of its homonymy to _ero:_ (say),\n_eromai_ (ask), there is an error in Codex Vaticanus (normally, a very\nvaluable witness) where a form of _erao:_ is used in a completely absurd\ncontext -- 2 Samuel 20:18, where the  meaning *must* be \"say.\"\n\nIn addition to the above (and the uses I have already mentioned in Proverbs),\nEsther 2:17 uses the verb in its most natural application, \n\n\tkai e:rasthe\" ho basileus Esthe:r  --  and the King loved Esther\n\nand, rather more interestingly, 1 Samuel 19:2 supplies a modest degree of\nsupport to the gay appraisal of the relationship of David and Jonathan:\n\n\tkai Io:nathan huios Saoul e:[i]reito ton Dauid sphodra\n\t-- and Jonathan, Saul's son, loved David intensely\n\n\t[ I'm using the bracketed [i] for io:ta subscript, which I\n\t  don't yet have a reasonable ASCII convention for. ]\n\n(The relevance of this to the gay issue is not anything implicit about\nthe \"historical\" facts, but just that a quasi-official translation of\nthe Hebrew text in the Hellenistic period makes no bones about using the\n\"erotic\" verb in this context.  Given the quite general usage of _agapao:_\nfor erotic senses, this need not mean anything \"more\" than _agapao:_ alone\nwould mean, but it DOES disambiguate the relationship, as far as this\ntranslator goes!)","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":": Yes, a lot of what OS\/2 2.0 has in common with OS\/2 1.x was written by you\n: guys. However, many of the things that made OS\/2 2.0 so much more successful\n: (Win-OS\/2, Workplace Shell) than previous versions were IBM work.\n\nWin-OS\/2 is IBM work? You make me laugh... Re-writing couple of thousands\nlines of code to make Windows compatible with your DPMI implementation does\nnot make the rest of Windows IBM work...","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Darwin fish can be bought from:\n--\n\"JOIN THE DARWINNERS (TM) Send $6 to receive your official Evolving\nFish..  wherever you want to spread the good news!  Darwinners, 6671\nSunset Blvd., Ste. 1525, L.A.,CA 90028 THE GREATEST THEORY EVER TOLD!\"\n\nJenny","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I have a Practical Peripherals 9600sa (External) modem for sale.\nIt's been used less than 1 year and has a lifetime warranty. I've\nnever had a problem connecting to any site, something I can't say\nfor the noname or third tier modems. Original box and manuals.\n\n$150 (firm) Includes shipping anywhere in the Continental US.\n\nKen","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nThe problem is that the process is inherently complicated ! The IJG's code is\npretty good if you ask me, and I have watched it go through many many cycles of\nrevision.\n\nTry getting a good book on the subject, that will explain the algorithms.\n\nSpecifically \"JPEG Still Image Compression Standard\" by Pennebaker & Mitchell,\nVNR 1993, ISBN 0-442-01272-1.\n\nBTW. I presume your comment about \"good\" code wasn't meant to sound as offensive\nas it does.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"So I finally decided to risk this upgrade, FAQ in hand I've gathered the\npieces together.  The only problem is that I haven't been able to find\nanyone who's even heard of thermal tape\/glue (which is what the FAQ\nrecommends for attaching the heat sink)  I am just tempted to use duct\ntape here.... anyone hae any ideas for me for attaching the heat sink to\nthe processor??  much thanks.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Does anyone out there have at hand the phone or fax number for TECH POWER, who\nare a PC motherboard manufacturer (may be known as TECH POWER Enterprises).\n\nThannks in advance\n\n- Chris\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I was at avalon today and found texture maps in some \"tex\" and \"txc\"\nformat, something I've never encountered before.  These are obviously\nnot tex or  LaTeX files.\n\nIF you have a clue how I can convert these to something\nreasonable, please let me know.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n    First of all (this is NOT a snide response), if you're confused about\nthis issue, you will stumble over a lot of other things as well.  I suggest\nthat the weakness is your reference material.  Get \"An Introduction to Ray\nTracing\" by Andrew Glassner for very good coverage of the raytracing\nalgorithm.  You could also refer to the 2nd edition of Foley & Van Dam.\n\n    On to the question.  The simple answer is that you just keep adding up\nall the contributions and then clamping at the maximum intensity.  For\nexample, if your intensity values range from 0.0 to 1.0, then keep adding up\nand clamp the resultant values to 1.0 (you might have to clamp the lower\nbound to 0.0 if you have dark bulbs, but that's another issue =^).  So, you\nget some illumination equation like this:\n\n        I = Lambient + Ldiffuse(light[n]) + Lreflected + Ltransparent\n\n    The contribution due to reflection is just summed with the light\nintensity, as is the light due to transparency.  Now, a slightly less\nhand-waving illumination equation is this:\n\n        I = KaLa + KdLd(light[n]) + KrLr + KtLt\n\n    That is, each component of the illumination equation is governed by the\nmaterial constants Ka, Kd, Kr and Kt.  So the maximum you can get from\ntransparency for a given object, for example, might be [0.4, 0.1, 0.5] for a\npurple-colored glass object.\n\n    Hopefully this answers your question.  I'll forward my \"illumination\nequation sermon\" to you also.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"[...]\n\nThis reminds me... my fuzzy brain recalls that somebody was thinking\nof reviving the San Marco launch platform off the coast of Kenya,\nwhere the Copernicus satellite was launched around 1972.  Is this\ntrue, or am I imagining it?  Possibly it's connected with one of the\nItalian programs to revive the Scout in a new version.\n\nThat old platform must be getting pretty rusty, and there ain't a lot\nof infrastructure to go with it...","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":":\non\nh\n\nI guess your view of the video from your sofa gives you a better view than\nthe cops involved?  I guess one can see what one wants to see after all.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I live up in British Columbia, Canada.The cable company I use is called\nRogers Cable. Does anyone know of their scrambling techniques, and ways of\ngetting\naround them? Any suggestions of what they might use?\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nI didn't catch your posting one year ago, but I presume you like to leave out\nan extra a-latch ? (I presume you allready know there is a '573 but that couldnt\nbe the question, could it ? ;-)\n\nDuring my student-trainee project, I discouvered a nice device, it's a PSD301  \nfrom Waferscale Integration. In one single (44 PLCC I think it was) package\nit contained: ROM, RAM, I\/O lines and a programmable addressdecoder...\n\nAs far as I can recall, it can be hooked directly with a MCS-51 series uP ... \nNeat huh ? But it needs programming before assembly, so it wasn't suitable\nfor my project. Perhaps usefull for you (future) plans ?\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Commericial support for exploration examples:\n\nAlso much if Baranovs exploration and Utilization of Alaska (Russian America,\nalso included parts of Washington state, Oregon, and N. California) was doen by\nprivate funds (yes some royal governmental funds at times..)..","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":" >drug dealers, spies, terrorists, and organized crime figures (assuming\n >enough probable cause to convince a judge) who need to be watched, not\n >law-abiding citizens.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nThe USA Today says \"late this year\".  The question is, will hockey be moved to\nESPN2 permenantly, or will it be where they have a game of the week on\nESPN, and have a bunch of other games on ESPN2?\n\n\n-- \nMike Cornell     | \"There are a great many people in the country today who,\nmac18@po.cwru.edu|  through no fault of their own, are sane.\" -Monty Python","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Does anyone out there know where some one can become educated in the art of\nrepairing Macintosh computers?  Also, how does one gain the prestige of being\nrefered to as a Authorized Apple Service person?  Has anyone out there actually\ndone any of this or maybe even know someone who did.  I would appreciate any\nand all comments on this subject.\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nBen Roy--------internet<br4416a@american.edu>---------PCS(poor college student)","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n1. Please take this out of sci.space.\n\n2. Ayn Rand was not only born in Russia, but educated there. A lot\nof her philosophy reflects not only a European education but a \nreaction against certian events in Russia while she lived there.\nI've heard that to the extent there is a division of modern philosophy\nbetween the \"Continental\" and British\/American schools, Rand belongs in\nthe former in terms of methodology et al, even though she was trying to\nsay things that would belong in the latter school.\n\nI.e. she was trapped in the language of Kant and Hegel, even though\nshe was trying to say (at times) much different things.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"For Sale:\n\nTime Line for Windows by SYMANTEC\n\nNever Opened.. Still in wrap......\n\nRetails for $495.00  Asking $250.00\n\nSend E-Mail if interested.\n\nJonathan","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"A few random thoughts on riding with a passenger:\n\nThere's no substitute for a bike with sufficient power, having taken\npassengers very occasionally on the small (125 etc) bikes I used to\nride in the UK it was hard ! I'm now riding a GS1100 and that's great,\neven moving from my freinds GSX600 I was riding recently. This may be due\nin part to the fact that neither I, nor my regular passengers, are\nparticularly slimline !\n\nI always tell passengers, stay in line with the bike on corners, that makes\ntheir movements predictable.\n\nMy regular passengers both tend to hold either the rack or nothing at all,\nI don't really like having a passenger hold onto me except for short periods.\nAgain that may be biased by the fact that I've had a couple of new passengers\n(a friend recently for her first time on a bike) who hold on to me real tight,\nmaking any kind of maneuvering difficult.\n\nI've also discovered that on longer trips I prefer a passenger who moves and\nshifts their weight a bit. I recently took a work collegue to a meeting (about\na 1 hour ride) and he sat totally still the whole way which left me also\nsitting very still and getting a sore back.\n\nWe have a code system for turns, stop and for 'I need to shift position'.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"We are planning on buying 15-20 X Terminals.  I have the article from Jim\nMorton regarding prices, etc., and am looking for any other information\nthat will help me decide which to buy.\n\nThe terminals will be connected to a DEC 3000\/400 AXP with 96Mb RAM,\nrunning OSF\/1.  From what I have found out so far, it would be best to run\nas much as possible in the terminal itself (X11, window manager, xterm,\netc.), and that in order to do this we need n Mb RAM in the Xterminal\n(where n ranges from 4 to 10, depending on who I talk to).\n\nWhat should I be looking for?  What sort of questions should I be asking\nthe salespeople?\n\nThanks","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nGregg, you haven't provided even a title of an article to support *your*\ncontention.\n\n\nYou also have no reason to believe it *is* an anti-Islamic slander job, apart\nfrom your own prejudices.\n\n\nWhy, yes.  What's a mere report in The Times stating that BCCI followed\nIslamic banking rules?  Gregg *knows* Islam is good, and he *knows* BCCI were\nbad, therefore BCCI *cannot* have been Islamic.  Anyone who says otherwise is\nobviously spreading slanderous propaganda.\n\n\nI see.  If someone wants to provide references to articles you agree with,\nyou will also respond with references to articles you agree with?  Mmm, yes,\nthat would be a very intellectually stimulating debate.  Doubtless that's how\nyou spend your time in soc.culture.islam.\n\nI've got a special place for you in my...\n\f\n...kill file.  Right next to Bobby.  Want to join him?\n\nThe more you post, the more I become convinced that it is simply a waste of\ntime to try and reason with Moslems.  Is that what you are hoping to achieve?\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nThis problem is caused by a bad interaction between the way olwm reparents\nwindows, a misfeature of the X protocol, and a bug in the Xt intrinsics.  \n\nThe Intrinsics bug is that it ignores the (x,y) position given in\nReparentNotify events.  Olwm is structured in such a way that, when a window\nis popped down, the last event the client receives is a ReparentNotify event. \nAt this point, the Intrinsics' notion of the shell's location is out of date.\n\nIf a SetValues is done using the same (x,y) position, the Intrinsics thinks it\nneeds to move the shell, so it issues a ConfigureWindow request to move it\nthere.  However, a (mis)feature of the X protocol is that a ConfigureWindow\nrequest that has no effect will generate no ConfigureNotify event.  The\nIntrinsics thus waits for an event that will never arrive, and times out after\nwmTimeout has expired.  (Actually, things are somewhat more complex because\nthe request is redirected to the window manager, but the net result is the\nsame.)\n\nThe solution is for the Intrinsics to note the (x,y) positioning information\nin ReparentNotify events.  This has been implemented and is available in X11R5\npublic fix 20.  This is XBUG 5513 for those of you who are interested in\ngorier details.\n\ns'marks\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Yes we have the same problem with xinit.  The problems seems to come from the\nfact that the XOpenDisplay(\":0\") fails.   If we try (on our machine\nnamed godzilla)\n\nsetenv DISPLAY godzilla:0.0\nXibm&\nxterm \n\n\nIt works fine, but the following will not work\n\nsetenv DISPLAY unix:0.0\nXibm&\nxterm \n\nDid we set a configuration option incorrectly?  Thank you for any assistance\nyou can offer.\n\n---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n                    Herb Hasler --- herb@iiasa.ac.at\n      International Institute for Applied Systems Anaylsis  (IIASA)\n          A-2361 Laxemburg, Austria --- +43 2236 715 21 ext 548","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I'm looking for some recommendations for screen capture programs.  A\ncouple of issues ago, PC Mag listed as Editor's Choices both Conversion\nArtist and Hijaak for Windows.  Anyone have any experience with those or\nsome others?  I'm trying to get an alpha manual in the next few days, and\nI'm not making much progress with the screen shots.  :^(\n \nI'm currently using DoDot and I'm about to burn it and the disks it rode\nit on.  It's got a lot of freaky bugs and *oversights* that are driving\nme crazy.  Tonight it decided that for any graphic it writes out as a\nTIFF file that's under a certain arbitrary size, it will swap the left\nand right sides of the picture [!].  Usually it confines itself to not\ncopying things to the clipboard (so I have to save and load pix for\nediting in paintbrush) or crashing every hour or so.\n \nThe one nice thing it has, though, is it's \"dither\" option.  You'd think\nthat this would turn colors into dots, which it does if you go from, say,\n256 colors to 16 colors.  But if you go from 256 or 16 colors to B&W,\nyou can set a threshold level for which colors turn to black and which\nturn to white.  For me, this is useful because I can turn light grays on\nbuttons to white, and the dark grays to black, and thereby preserve the\n3d-effect on buttons and other parts of the window.\n \nIf you understood my description :^) can you tell me if another (less\nbuggy!) program can do this as well?\n \nMuch thanks for any help.\n\n---------------------------------Signature---------------------------------\nDavid DelGreco                       | \"What lies behind us and what lies\nTechnically a Writer                 | before us are tiny matters compared\ndelgreco@rahul.net                   | to what lies within us.\"\n                                     |         - Oliver Wendell Holmes","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"My girlfriend is a smoker. She has been addicted to it for quite some time.\nShe has been tried a couple of times, but then always get back to it. Her \nbackground is non-Christian, but she's interested in Christianity. I'm a\nChristian and non-smoker.\n\nI would like to collect any personal stories from Christians who managed to \nquit. I hope that this will encourage her to keep on trying. If anybody ever \nhad a similar problem or knows a good book on it, pls reply by email. \n\nI appreciate any kinds of helps. Thanks a lot.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"The Vatican library recently made a tour of the US.\n Can anyone help me in finding a FTP site where this collection is \n available.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":": I'm wondering if it's possible to use radio waves to measure the\n: distance between a transmitter(s) and receiver?\n: \n: Seems to me that you should be able to measure the signal strength\n: and determine distance. This would be for short distances (2000 ft),\n: and I would need to have accuracy of 6 inches, or so.\n: --------------------\nYou might try looking at whats available in laser locating systems. They\nwork best for close work( 1 mile and under).\n\nRF is used for much longer distances in two major modes. Transponder and\nphase measurment. Transponder requires you send a pulse to another station\nand it returns it to you and you measure the round trip time minus the\nreceiver time.\n\nPhase measurements require two or more transmitting stations sending the\nsame frequency signal multiplexed in time. A receiver can pick them up and\nmeasure the phase shift between signals. Maps can be drawn that plot the\nLines of Position that correspond to a certain phase shift between two\nstations. ","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"refrettably you are mistaken.  alt.drugs was used to recruit people for the\nworldwide pot religion.  I, however hve no problem being in both of them\n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"It probably won't work with any other LC.  The ones I have for the LC II\nare Rev. D.  No, it won't work in the IIsi's PDS slot since it's a 68030\nPDS, while the LC has the 68020 PDS.  The IIsi and SE\/30 share the same\nkind of card.\n\nThat's the 10BaseT ethernet connector.\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nWHen trying to choose a resistor with a tolerance better than 1%, you \nneed a trimmer or to screen devices, it can't be made from adding 2 \nresitors of 1% value in parallel, since the smaller device will have the \nerror of 1% to cope with. \nYou have 3 choices;\na) live with the error of 1% tolerance devices for low Q circuits or low \nsensitivity designs\nb) buy resistors with better than 1% tolerance (Vishay\/Dale)\nc) use trimmers or SOT's (Select-On-Test)","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nI replied:\n\n\nYou answered:\n\n\nI think it is important to clear up your first reply.  You gave the\nimpression that you should not use smartdrive with stacker.   You are\ncorrect re: caching the compressed drive.  However, as I understand it,\nyou can cache the uncompressed drive.  Thus if you have compressed your\ndisk C:, you will have a C and probably a D drive under stacker.  C being\nthe compressed disk (which is just a large file on D:) and D being the\nuncompressed disk.  You should only attempt to stack D:.  In fact, with\nWin 3.1 and smartdrv.exe, it seems smart enough to automatically default\nto stacking your A,B and D drives.  ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"What about ethanol?  It's available here in corn country and its octane is\nrated at 89 or 90 and costs the same as \"normal\" 87 octane.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"On 26-Apr-93 in Re: What part of \"No\" don't..\nPlease provide evidence that having a moment of silence for a student\nwho died tragically costs taxpayers money.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"[...]\nB >  Medicine has not, and probalby never will be, practiced this way.  There\nB >  has always been the use of conventional wisdom.  A very good example is\nB >  kidney stones.  Conventional wisdom(because clinical trails have not been\nB >  done to come up with an effective prevention), was that restricitng the\nB >  intake of calcium and oxalates was the best way to prevent kidney stones\nB >  from forming.  Clinical trials focused on drugs or ultrasonic blasts to\nB >  breakdown the stone once it formed.  Through the recent New England J of\nB >  Medicine article, we now know that conventional wisdom was wrong,\nB >  increasing calcium intake is better at preventing stone formation than is\nB >  restricting calcium intake.    \n[...]\nB >  Marty B.\n\n Marty, I personally wouldn't be so quick and take that NEJM article \n on kidney stones as gospel. First of all, I would want to know who\n sponsored that study.\n I have seen too many \"nutrition\" bulletins over the years from\n local newspapers, magazines, to TV-guide, with disclaimers on the\n bottom informing us that this great health news was brought to us\n compliments of the Dairy Industries.\n There are of course numerous other interest groups now that thrive\n financially on the media hype created from the supposedly enormous \n benefits of increasing one's calcium intake.\n\n Secondly, were ALL the kidney stones of the test subjects involved \n in that project analysed for their chemical composition?  The study\n didn't say that, it only claimed that \"most kidney stones are large-\n ly calcium.\"\n Perhaps it won't be long before another study comes up with the exact\n opposite findings. A curious phenomenon with researchers is that they\n are oftentimes just plain wrong. It wouldn't be the first time.\n \n Sodium\/magnesium\/calcium\/phosphorus ratios are, in my opinion, still \n the most reliable indicators for the cause, treatment, and prevention \n of kidney stones.\n I, for one, will continue to recommend the most logical changes in\n one's diet or through supplementation to counteract or prevent kidney\n stones of either type; and they definitely won't include an INCREASE\n in calcium if the stones have been identified as being of the calcium\n type and people's chemical analysis confirms that they would benefit\n from a PHOSPHORUS-raising approach instead!\n\n     Ron Roth\n =====================================================================\n --  Internet: rn.3228@rose.com  -  Rosenet: ron roth@rosehamilton  --\n\n * A stone on the ground is better than a stone in the body.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\nwe need the code for decompression of Quicktime JPEG Pict files, as they\ndon't conform to usual jpeg compressors, which are available in source.\nThe code should be in C Pascal or Modula. The code will be used on several\nplatforms to view pictures over ISDN. Perhaps a special hardware will be\nput around it (much less then a mac! perhaps only a DSP with some support\nchips)\nIf the code is not available, perhaps the algorithm is available to\ndecompress\nthem.\n\nChristian Bauer","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"FOR SALE:  1990 Pontiac Grand Prix SE\n\n2-Door Coupe,\nWhite, White rims, Gray interior.\n58K miles (mostly highway),\n3.1 Litre V6 multi-port fuel-injected engine,\n5 speed manual transmission.\n\nOne owner.\n\nOptions include:\n\nA\/C,\nRear defogger,\nPower steering,\nPower brakes,\nPower windows,\nPower locks,\nPower mirrors,\nCruise control,\nPower glass moonroof with sunshade,\nPower seat\/recliner (driver's),\nPower seat\/comfort\/lumbar\/headrest (both front seats),\nTrunk pass-through (for skis)\nAM\/FM cassette stero (6 speakers),\nElectronic monitor\/service system with graphic compass,\nStereo controls duplicated on steering wheel,\nRemote-keyless entry,\nand others.\n\nAsking $11,500.\n\nThe car looks and rides like it just rolled off\nof the dealers lot.  It has been garaged and pampered.\nIt gets an average of 27.5 mpg highway, sometimes better;\ncity is around 19-23 mpg, depending on how it is driven.\n\nSelling because of baby coming soon.  Need 4-door family\ncar.  Will consider trade or partial trade with Ford Taurus,\nMercury Sable, or 4-door Pontiac Grand Am or similar American\ncar.\n\nI live in the Boston,MA area.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
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{"text":"If you would like to sell your Technics SA-GX910 receiver, or know\nsomeone who would like to sell it, please contact me.  I'm willing \nto pay any reasonable price.  Thanx.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I stopped going to A's games some years ago while I still lived inthe\nBay Area for exactly this reason.  I believe the length of their games\nhas been institutionalized by LaRussa\/Duncan.  They encourage their\npitchers to be overly deliberate, to throw to first often, to study\nthe catchers' signals, and so on.  And almost every A's hitter takes\na step out of the box after every pitch.  This is not, imo, a coincidence.\nThis is planned.  And I hate it.\n\nAs for the Gant situation, I did not see the game or the replays.  But\nI do wonder.  What if Gant had requested a time out?  Would Hirschbeck\nhave been required to give it to him?  Could he have denied the requst?\nFor all he (the ump) knew, Gant could have had dirt in his eye.\n\n\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nUtah raster toolkit using getx11. Convert your sun raster files (presumably) to \nppm with the pbm+ toolkit then convert ppm to utah rle format with ppmtorle which\nis provided in the toolkit.\n\nI seem to remember that Xloadimage can do 24 bit servers too.\n\nPossibly xwud the x window un-dump program can display 24 bit images; certainly\nxwd can grab them.\n\n--\nChris Lilley\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTechnical Author, ITTI Computer Graphics and Visualisation Training Project\nComputer Graphics Unit, Manchester Computing Centre, Oxford Road, \nManchester, UK.  M13 9PL                        Internet: C.C.Lilley@mcc.ac.uk  \nVoice: +44 (0)61 275 6045  Fax: +44 (0)61 275 6040 Janet: C.C.Lilley@uk.ac.mcc","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I remember, back before commercial mikes with the \"PZM\" label (for\nPressure Zone Microphone) started showing up, I read an article,\nin some engineering journal, that described the principles involved.\nAll the physics aside, from a practicle standpoint the author's said\nthey built a prototype with nothing more than a small Sony lavelier\nmike laid up against a large aluminum disk.  In demonstrating it at\na presentation to audio engineers, this was impressive enough that\nthe people present were bugging them about where they could buy them.\n\nAnyway...I want to build some to use as \"choir mikes\" (wide coverage).\nI've had good luck using some small electret mike elements I got\nfrom Digi-Key - most of these are limited-bandwidth, peakey units\nbut for a buck or two more I got the ones spec'd to go out to 20kHz\nwith a bit flatter response.  \n\nThe distance of the mike opening from the flat plate is kind of\ncritical.  I'm debating whether to mount it on it's side, which\nputs the opening a shade under 2mm from the plate, or mounting\nit with the opening actually pointing down into the plate at a\nsmall clearance.  I haven't dissected a unit like you can buy at\nRadio Shack to see how they do it.  Thoughts?\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I've read that exercise makes the heart pump more blood at a stroke, and\nthat it also makes the heart pumb slower, in order to make up for the\ngreater volume. My Internist, who diagnosed my AV block, slow heart rate\nand PVC's, told me something different. She says that heart rate is\nassociated with the electrical properties of the hear muscle, not its\nsize. Exercise lowers heart rate and increases stroke volume, but the\neffects are unrelated except for their common source. The AV block, she\nasserts, is another electrical effect, which is irreversable - even when\nexercise is dicontinued. PVC's are also common in runners. \n\nSo my EKG puts me in a class with trained athletes and also with heart\npatients. Isn't that strange, though? Are there any not-so-beneficial\naspects to athlete's heart? Is it all good?","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":" \nThe lead-acid secondary cell releases energy (electricity) with the following\nchemical reaction:\n \nPb + PbO2 + 2H2SO4 --> 2PbSO4 + 2H20\n \nLead and Lead (IV) Oxide and Sulfuric Acid produce Lead Sulfate and Water\n \nThe standard heats of formation at 25 C (77 F) of the various compounds are:\n \n              Heat of formation\nCompound      at 25 C, kcal\/mole\n--------      ------------------\n   Pb               0.00\n  PbO2            -65.0\n H2SO4           -193.69\n PbSO4           -218.5\n  H20             -68.3174\n \nThe heat of reaction at 25 C is therefore -60.6 kcal per mole PbSO4 produced.\nNote that lead sulfate is not very soluble (0.0048 grams per 100 grams water\nat 25 C), and it will thus precipitate out of solution where the reaction is\noccurring, or the cathode (positive terminal) of the battery.  (I am almost\nsure it is the positive terminal where the precipitate forms, but I may be\nwrong.  Oh well, I don't have a corroded battery to corrobate, and I don't feel\nlike thinking through it right now.)\n \nWhat is important to notice here is that the reaction, as you knew it would be,\nis exothermic, or energy discharging.  If moisture with dissolved electrolytes\n(acid rain) condenses on the battery, a conductive path between the terminals\nmay form.  This will discharge the battery as the chemical reaction proceeds.\nThe reaction is reversible, if electricity (from an alternator or battery\ncharger) is put back into the battery.\n \nLead-acid batteries must change in chemical composition to discharge.  Each\ncell has all the reactants necessary for the reaction.  The non-reacting posts\n(terminals) of the lead-acid battery are there to remove (or add) electric\nenergy during a discharge (or charge).  Because the reaction is exothermic, it\nhas a tendency to happen, though quite slowly under normal circumstances.  So\nwhile keeping the battery dry is a good idea, it is not a total solution.\n \nTo understand why lead-acid batteries DO INDEED discharge faster when stored on\nconcrete as opposed to wood or earth (dirt), one should recall LeChatelier's\nPrinciple, which can be paraphrased as:  anything subjected to some stress will\nact to move to a more comfortable position.  Here are the thermal conductivities\nof a some selected materials:\n \n                                              thermal conductivity\n       material           Temperature, C (F)  BTU\/(hr-ft-ft)(F\/ft)\n       --------           ------------------  --------------------\ndiatomaceous earth,            204                   0.051\n natural, across strata        871                   0.077\ndiatomaceous, natural,         204                   0.081\n parallel to strata            871                   0.106\ndiatomaceous earth powder     (100)                  0.039\n  (density, 18 lb\/cu.ft)      (200)                  0.042\n                              (300)                  0.044\n                              (400)                  0.048\n                              (500)                  0.051\nconcrete (cinder)              ---                   0.20\n         (stone)               ---                   0.54\n         (1:4 dry)             ---                   0.44\npine (across grain)             15                   0.087\n   (parallel to grain)          21                   0.20\noak (across grain)              15                   0.12\nmaple (across grain)            50                   0.11\n \nNote that the thermal conductivity for \"dirt\" (diatomaceous earth) goes down\nwith temperature.  Also, 204 C is about 400 K, and the values for earth powder\nare on the same order of magnitude as natural earth.  The thermal conductivity\nof concrete is around a factor of 10 greater than that of dirt, and is 2-4\ntimes greater than wood.\n \nIt is these differences in thermal conductivity that cause the battery on\nconcrete to discharge faster than that on dirt or wood.  At any instant the\ndischarge reaction is occurring, energy is being released, either as electricity\nor heat.  (Thermal conductivity of air is about 0.015 BTU\/(hr-ft-ft)(F\/ft).)\nDuring storage, except for the trickle that passes through any condensate on\nthe battery, this energy is mostly released as heat.  The higher conductivity\nsurface will remove the heat proportionately faster than the lower conductivity\nsurface.  Thus, if you perfectly insulated a dry battery on all but the bottom\nsurface, at any given battery temperature above the storage surface temperature,\nthe battery on a concrete surface will be discharging about 10 times faster\nthan that on dirt.\n \nThis is where LeChatelier's principle comes into play.  Removing energy from\nthe exothermic reaction will drive the reaction further to completion.  If the\nreaction normally occurs at room temperature, keeping the battery at that\ntemperature requires the removal of any heat produced.  A concrete surface is\na better heat sink than a dirt or wood surface.  Store a battery in the corner\nof a poured concrete basement, and you have 3 surfaces removing energy, which\n\"pulls\" the reaction along.\n \nAlso, if water evaporates from the battery, that elevates the ratio of sulfuric\nacid to water.  This will tend to drive the discharge reaction.\n \nJeff White      jhwhit01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"As soon as I am logged into Linux, I type\n\n# xinit\n\nSetting TCP SO_LINGER : Protocol not available\nno SIOCGIFCONF\nXFree86 Version 1.2\/X Window System\n(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 5000)\nconfigured drivers:\n\tVGA256(256 colout SVGA):\n\t  et4000, et 3000, PVGA1, gvga, ati, tvga8900c, tgva9000\n    (using VT number 7)\nMouse : type : Mouse Systems, device : \/dev\/mouse, baudrate:1200\nFont Path set to \"usr\/lib\/X11\/fonts\/Type1, \/usr\/lib\/X11\/fonts\/75 dpi\/,\n\t\t\t\t  \/usr\/lib\/X11\/fonts\/Speedo, \/usr\/lib\/X11\/fonts\/Bitstream1\/,\n\t\t\t\t  \/usr\/lib\/X11\/fonts\/misc.\nVGA 256 : et4000 ( mem : OK numclocks : 16 )\nVGA 256 : Clocks : 25.2 28.3 47.8 41.2 25.4 0.0 47.6 0.0\nVGA 256 : Clocks : 0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0 0.0  41.3\nVga 256 : Too little memory for virtual resolution 1024 1204\n\n*** A configured device found, but display modes could not be resolved. ***\n\nFatal server error:\nno screens found\ngiving up.\nxinit : Interrupted system call(errno 4) : Unable to connect to X server\nxinit : No such process(errno 3) : Server error.\n\n===========================================================================\n\nWhy am I getting these messages when I type in xinit?\nIs there a configuration file for X-Windows(like config.sys for MSDOS)?\nHow do I start the X session( from shell )?\n\n\n______________________________________________________","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nMaybe. I've had an Epson portable with backlit LCD since 1988 which is\nstill used daily and the screen on that is fine. The only problem it\nhas (and ever has had) is the \"arm\" of the screen is sorta lose and if\nyou bend it fairly harshly the screen goes off until you wiggle it\nround a bit. But other than that, it's been perfect! So what's that,\nabout um, 60 months???!","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"1991 Toyota Camry\n    Deluxe model\n    5 sp\n    power windows\n    power door locks\n    power steering\n    power brakes\n    AM\/FM cassette\n    70K highway miles\n    Excellent condition\n\n    $9800\n\n    (914) 335-6984 day (until 5pm)\n    (609) 397-2147 (after 7pm)\n    ask for Bob Fusi\n\n                                                        Rob Fusi\n                                                        rwf2@lehigh.edu\n             E-mail or call for more info....","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nExcellent suggestion, Ron.  And as a further comment on DOS 6, if\nyou decide to install Windows standalone configuration completely,\nin more than 1 directory on your hard drive, and use DOS 6 to\njump to a specific copy for each user, you could be saving yourself\nmany megs of disk space if you use the SETUP \/N and \/A technique!!\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\tFinns had to do their best last night when they played against Norway\nin world champs. After two periods the score was still 0-0. This game was \nquite much similar to the first game Finland played  (against France).\nThe norwegian goalie was very good and a bit lucky, too. In the third period\nJuha Riihij{rvi scored 1-0 from a rebound, the time was around 5 mins or so.\nThe second goal was scored by Kari Harila, who shot straight from a faceoff\nbehind the Nowwegian goalie. Saku Koivu, the 18-year-old center got his first\npoint of this tournament. Saku Koivu played very well througout the game and he\nwas awarded the best player of the game- prize. Despite the fact that he is\nquite small in size he handles the puck very well and is a fast skater. \nI think that we will hear from this guy in the future.\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I'm trying to turn on Xauthorization using MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE on my servers\n(CPU heads, HP700RX Xterminals), but I'm running into a couple of problems.\n\nFirst, at least one of our applications (Maple) doesn't seem to understand \nhow to deliver the magic cookie, and won't run on a display with authorization\nturned on. \n\nSecond, we have people with client software on remote machines, and I\nreally don't want to hassle them with having to copy their .Xauthority\nfile to the remote machine... assuming that the clients there support\nXauthorization.\n\nSo, what I would like to do is turn on MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE by default, with\nnon-privileged users able to turn it off - dropping back to host-based\nauthorization.\n\n(Yes, I know how to turn it off by changing the Xconfig file for the\nheads and the Client Authorize setting for the Xterminals, but\nnon-privileged users can't do this.)\n\nI've checked with the HP Support Line, and there doesn't appear to be a way.\nCan anyone confirm this, or do you know of a way to accomplish what I\nwant?\n\nBTW, I'm running HPUX 9.0, and Vue 3.0.\n\nThanks in advance,\nRick\n-- \n\nRick McTeague\nElectrical Engineering Department, Speed Scientific School\nUniversity of Louisville, Louisville, KY 40292\n(502) 588-7020\n\nInternet: sysrick@starbase.spd.louisville.edu","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nNonsense.\n\nMike, in Heinlein's \"Moon is a Harsh Mistress\" decides that a weapon is some\nmechanism which allows you to deliver energy at a distance.  (I don't\nhave the book handy or I'd find the exact quote).\n\nGuns do that.\n\nCryptosystems do not.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nOnce again, Koresh closed the door on an agent with a search warrant,\nand the door was then perforated by a rain of bullets from the\ninside.\n\nThey shot first.\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n  (stuff deleted)\n\n    [First point. What they are doing is wrong, just as what\nJoseph's brothers did was wrong, just as what Judas did was wrong.\nThey intend it for evil. If God somehow brings good out of it, that\ndoes not make them any less subject to just condemnation and\npunishment.\n     Second point. Of course, God will bring good out of it. But not\nthe same good that He would have brought if the Serbians had\nrefrained from the sins of robbery and rape and murder. Nor does the\ngood He purposes excuse us from the duty of doing what is right.]\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I have a few just bought a new phone\/answering machine combo so I really\ndon't need my present setup. Both items are in great condition. Prices\nDO NOT include shipping. If you have any questions contact me by E-Mail\nor call me at (814)234-4439.\n\nDarryl\n\n========================================================================\nToshiba FT6000 Cordless Phone                                       $40\n  - Rubber antenna, 10 number memory","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"With all the recent problems the Indians have been having\nwith their pitching staff I have heard numerous names\nthrown around about who could solve their problem.\n\nOne name I have not heard is Mike Soper (RP).  As far as\nI know, Soper has had pretty good minor league stats.\nWhy not give the kid a chance?  Anyone know anything about\nthis guy?\n\n-- ","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Anyone happen to know what the max resolution for quicktime is?  I'm \ntrying to determine if a maxed out system using quicktime could produce\nand edit broadcast quality video (including bringing the video in via\nvideo spigot\/etc.).  So far I have yet to see anything that's even close\nto S-VHS in quicktime, but it'd be great to hear that it's possible.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Hi.  Does anyone know the possible causes of nasoparynx carcenoma\nand what are the chances of it being hereditary?\n\nAlso, in the advacned cases, what is the general procedure to \nreduce the pain the area as it prevents the patient from eating\ndue to the excessive pain of swallowing and even talking?\n\nThanks.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nGee, I think there are some real criminals (robbers, muderers, drug\naddicts) who appear to be fun loving caring people too.  So what's\nyour point?  Is it OK. just because the people are nice?\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"lioness@maple.circa.ufl.edu:\n\npmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz):\n\nlioness@maple.circa.ufl.edu:\n\npmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz):\n\n    For both these questions, it's an inclusive or.  Alpha plus stencil is\nsupported (they're separate), as is double-buffered stereo.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\n        Just one quick question:\n        My father has had a back problem for a long time and doctors\n        have diagnosed an operation is needed. Since he lives down in\n        Mexico, he wants to know if there is a hospital anywhere in\n        the United States particulary famous for this kind of surgery,\n        kind of like Houston has a reputation for excellent doctors\n        in eye surgery. Any additional info or pointers will be\n        appreciated a whole lot!...\n\n\n                Thanks in Advance.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Ok, I just got a new 486\/66 16 Mb, with a ATI Ultra pro and I can't get\ninto windows. It says that I need more memory available, but I have 15mb\nogf extended mem & 512k of conventionnal. I have disabled my memory aperture\nbecause it didn't find any \"FREE\" memory, but it still gave me a message that\nthe memory aperture will conflict with system memory. I think that's why\nit want to get in Windows.\n\nAny help will greatly be appriciated.\n\nPlease Reply by mail, because this site is a week late on News\n\n\n\t\t\t\t\tThanks","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Arthur Clarke may have quoted the comment about knowing you're to be\nhanged in the morning concentrating a man's mind wonderfully, but the\nsource of the comment is Samuel Johnson.\n\n(Pardon me if you already knew that.)","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nCan you say \"*expensive*\" ?\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I think I can explain the \"missing part of a leaf\" story.\n\nI have actually seen a reproduction of that particular Kirlian\nphotograph, in a book compiled by people who were enthusiasts of\nKirlian photography.  \"That particular photograph\" ... ?  That's\nright, the effect has been observed only once.  Even the writers of\nthe book were inclined to disbelieve in it.  \n\nI conjecture that the maker of that photograph began by placing\na whole leaf between two plates and taking its Kirlian photo.\nFor his next experiment, he cut the leaf in half, put one half down\nbetween the same two plates, and took another K. p.  The\n\"missing half\" effect was created by water, oils, etc. left behind \nafter the first photo.\n\nThis explanation must be tentative, because after all I wasn't there\nwhen it happened.  ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Frank Benson:\n\nAnother spelling flame?\n\nAren't you the guy who threatens people on talk.politics.guns?  2nd\namendment yea, 1st amendment nay.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"If you have any information on artificial intelligence in medicine, then I\nwould appreciate it if you could mail me with whatever it is. The informations\nis needed for a project.\n\nThank you, Ian.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I guess the real question is:\n\nWho asked the original questions, and why was it so _broad_.\nAre we talking pure processing power (what kind of processing BTW)\nisolated from every other factor and influence in the system?  \nOr are we shopping for a home computer based on the CPU specs (yuck)!\n\nI just finished a project that involves real-time processing of serial\ndata and discovered that the programming interface (assembly) has\n_a lot_ to do with the \"power\" of a CPU in a particular application.\nIf what you want to do is easy to code with the instruction set given,\nthen not only is it easy, but it's cheap and quick.  If you have to\nfake things (like resolving indirection without a LEA instruction), then\nyour cycle count goes through the roof!\n\nwell, let's _NOT_ start a flame war about whose computer is better than whose.\nThe orginal question was about classifying micro-processors...\nhaving re-read the entire thread, I don't think much more can be said without\ngetting down into specific proposed systems with important details given.\n\n\nThat's it for another $0.02.\n\nCheers everyone.\n\n\n~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=\n  Peter Pundy\n\n  Email: 2545500@jeff-lab.queensu.ca","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I've been using Windows NT (tm) since the October release, and I have to \nsay that the March release is really a big improvement.  Windows NT (tm)\nis becomming usable.\n\nThere are a few things to consider before you make the leap though.\nFirst (for me at least) is that you cannot get a full-speed DOS box.\nWhat I mean is, I cannot (for instance) run Falcon 3.0 or any other\nresourse intensive program in a DOS box.  It absolutley crawls.  \nAnd my machine is a 486\/33 with a 330MB HD and 16MB RAM.  If anyone\nknows how to get a fast DOS box (or full-screen for that matter), \nplease let me know.\n\nThe second thing is there are still not many drivers around for stuff.\nFor instance, my PAS-16 has been demoted to running as a Sound Blaster\n(which is natively supported -- nice), because MediaVision hasn't \nproduced drivers yet.\n\nYour disk should be large enough to keep an 80MB DOS partition, and\ngive the rest over to Windows NT (tm).  The only thing is, whenever\nyou wanted to run Windows programs, you'd have to reboot and log into\nWindows NT (tm), instead of just typing WIN.\n\nWindows NT (tm) does seem to be much more stable than normal Windows\nthough.  It'd be a good choice if you have the resources.  You should\nreally have *at LEAST* 8MB RAM though.  One last thing, modems work\nwell enough, but I have yet to get my FAX card to work, and I've never\nheard of anyone else who did either.\n\nIt's only better than UNIX because it runs killer software out of the\nbox, whereas with UNIX there isn't the same availablity.\n\nI guess it comes down to -- Windows NT (tm) is not yet for the faint\nof heart, it's still a beta.  But it's a very GOOD beta.\n\n-- ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nThis was reported in Canadian papers Thursday, 22 April - I _think_ the\nsource was UPI, but don't recall for certain.\n\n\n\nI understand that at least two goverment investigations have been ordered,\nso we may learn more during their hearings. \n\n\nTough call without more investigation, but if the thermal imaging story\nholds up, I think the government will be more credable... of course,\nparanoia fans won't believe their results anyway, will they?\n\n\nHear, hear! I'd also like to see the autopsy reports confirm news reports\nthat multiple victims were found shot (in the head), and in positions\ninconsistent with fire victims. It is simply too early to draw conclusions\neither way about this nasty incident, but I tend to believe the government\nside.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nAnd I lived out there too.  It was a nice sleepy farm valley until\nthe Butler family decided to stick up all sorts of really tacky\nHigh RIse office buildings and ruin my view of the sky.\n\nI guess i should have sued somebody :-;","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\nIt is not a matter of dis-belief but a matter of which of their constantly\n(and radically) changing stories we are to believe.\n\nSteve B.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Items for sale.....\n\nThis package was bought throught a award give-away company. I attempted\nto cancel my order before I received the package, but I was too late and\nthe company refused to take the package back for refund. I know the truth\nwhich I would never get my $697 back, but I wish to get my money back as\nclose as possible. Here is the describtion of the package...\n\nNishika 3D camera\tIt takes very good picture, never been opended\n\t\t\tor used. It came with wide angle flesh, carring\n\t\t\tcase, film, and a instruction video. It has four\n\t\t\tlens and created a 3D effect on a regular 35mm\n\t\t\tfilm.\n\nJewelry\t\t\tIt came with the package as additional gift.\n\nBahama vacation voucher\tThe voucher is good for two RT airfare to Freeport.\n\t\t\tThe users get a special hotel rate of $27 per-person\n\t\t\tper-night. Meals, ground transfer, hotel tax is\n\t\t\t_not_ included.\n\nLas Vegas, Reno, Orlando\tThe voucher provides one RT airfare, and\n\t\t\t\thotel accomodation for 3 days\/ 2 nights.\n\t\t\t\tMeals, ground transfer, hotel tax is not\n\t\t\t\tincluded. The voucher is good for all 3\n\t\t\t\tlocations, but you can't travel to all 3\n\t\t\t\tplaces at once.\n\nCancun, Mexico\t\tThe voucher provides one RT airfare, and hotel\n\t\t\taccomodation for 3 days \/ 2 nights. Meals and\n\t\t\tground transfer, hotel tax is not included as\n\t\t\tusual.\n\nI paid $697 for the whole package. So try not to be cold-blooded when you\nmake your offer. Details would be provided by request. I do wish to sell\nthe whole package at once. So if you are just looking for the vacation\nvouchers, I don't care if you sell the camera to other for a higher pric\nIf you are interested in the camera, you could treat the vacation vouchers\nas gift.\n\nIf you receive a letter in your mail box which says that you are selected\nto be part of the sweeptake and you have at least one out of five awards. \nTrust me, you would get the exactly the same package as I did. There is \nonly one award which will be given away. So don't bother even to call them \nback, if you are really interested, you could get it from me for a cheaper \nprice. And you could receive the package within a week ( I waited three \nmonths to get my first and final packages). Also, they would ask for your\ncredit card number and you have to pay for the interest to the credit \ncard company. So why spend more than you should when you could get them\nfrom me for a cheaper price.\n\nIf you are interested, please reply to me as soon as posible. I really\nwish to get this over with. Make me an offer, if I am confortable with\nyour offer, I would send the package by U.P.S. the next day morning.\nMore details could be given if you wish.\n\nPlease contact me at koutd@hirama.hiram.edu","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nSay WHAT?  Surrounding the compound with armed men and throwing\ngrenades isn't a provocation?\n\n\nYou're smoking something not legal in the US.  They never rang the\ndoorbell.  Not even the BATF has claimed that they have. This was a\nno-knock search.\n\nAs to the good reason the BATF has-- the warrant and supporting\naffadavit have not been made public. \n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nI too am a Jules Verne collector, and can tell you that though tough \nto find, it *is* out there.  I keep my eyes open all the time for his\nbooks at various Bay Area used book stores, and every once in a while\nget *very* lucky.  You just need diligence.  I don't know if the book\nstore situation near JSC is as good as the Bay Area, but good luck.\nI have also had excellent luck at the Antiquarian Book Fair which comes\nto SF every other year, though the prices are more in the $100-$200 range\nthan the $50 you want to spend.  My guess is that *if* you find it,\nyou won't need to spend even that much, since most people don't care \nabout it.  I think I paid about $15 for my dust-jacket-less but otherwise\ngood condition copy, which I found one day at a small bookshop that happened\nto have just bought a lot of random books at an estate sale.  \n\nOf course, if you re willing to buy blind, you can put a $2 advertisement\nin the Antiquarian Bookseller's newsletter (the exact title of which escapes\nme at the moment.)  _Five Weeks in a Balloon_ is not the rarest of Jules\nVerne books.  Someone has it for sale somewhere, and the AB is the way to \nfind it.  In fact, I would be surprised if you didn't get multiple offers\nof sale.  Of course, that takes the fun out of hunting for it yourself...\n\nGood luck.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"A good reason (which is why many companies use it) for 48 bits \/ pixel\nis so you can use double buffering (for animating scenes) - i.e. you have\n2 * 24-bit planes. You write to the one in the background, and then FLIP! \n-- the entire screen updates to the second image-plane. The screen updates \nin one refresh and you don't see different objects appearing in the order \nthat they're drawn (as in the CAD\/MacDraw effect). Now your ready to update \nthe image that used to be in the foreground.\n\nSteve. (thssstb@iitmax.iit.edu \/ iris.iit.edu)","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Hello Cliff \n\nMany people on the internet (like us) have to pay for\nevery byte of data passed through subscribed news groups.\n\nBitmaps are large. Bitmaps cost us a lot of money. There are\nspecial news-groups for bitmaps because of this. We don't\nsubscribe to them. Put you bitmaps in the right place.\nRead one of the FAQ guides in the newuser groups and it\nwill tell you all about bitmaps and the thousands of\nestablishments like mine that you have just cost money.\n\nSome of them have very limited budgets.\n\nGo away.\n\nP.S. This is a flame ;-)\nP.P.S You distribution of \"usa\" didn't work.\n\nKenB\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Oh..\njust a note, my usually poor typing is made even more dificult by the \nsmall keyboard and mutiple connections I am piped through in order\nto access news while here in DC.\n\nI'm really not trying to irritate the spelling mavens :-)\n\nLUX .\/. owen\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Yes, I want to read such a article.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I ran out of time on my last reply to this string and I don't\nknow if it was sent or not but. I have never heard of anyone that\nhad to return something in the 30 grace peried that had a problem\nat all with Midwest Micro. They may of thought that you didn't\nknow what you were doing and suggested how to correct the problem.\nBut it sounded as you didn't give them much of a chance to correct\nthings at all. The fact that the PPI worked okay for you is because\nit is setup more for the no nothing user that can't understand the\ninstruction and the commands to configure it to his\/her system.\nWhen you find out things like the fact the the EC led that looks like\nyou have connected to another EC modem, doesn't realy say that.\nBut that it only tells you that you have EC turned on, on your modem.\nI think that these LED are nothing more that just light to hype up\nthe product. Just like I bet someone took home a few extra $$$\nin the last year for giving the PPI modems the PC-Magazine award\nof the year. Not so for the stash (12) of them that I saw on my test\nbench. I could go on for hours at no end as to all of the problems\nthat I found with the PPI modems but I will try to control myself.\nI will not even go into the 6 weeks it took PPI to credit my card\nback for the modems after they had received them back...no I will\nnot go into that one nor will I go into talking to the parent co.\nco from Hayes. I'll just say I hope you like your new modem and\nmaybe someone that can understand how to setup a modem will get\nthe one that you sent back, maybe a good friend of mine I hope!","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":": :  So what is Kibology? Chopped liver?\n: Kibo Himself summed it up by saying \"Kibology is not just a religion, it is\n: also a candy mint ... and a floor wax.\" I personally think that it is more\n: like Spam Clear.\n: :   ","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"FIRST ANNUAL PHIGS USER GROUP CONFERENCE\n\n          The First Annual PHIGS User Group Conference was held March 21-24\n          in Orlando, Florida.  The conference was organized by the Rensse-\n          laer Design Research Center in co-operation with  IEEE  and  SIG-\n          GRAPH.   Attendees  came  from five countries spanning three con-\n          tinents.   A  good  cross-section  of  the  PHIGS  community  was\n          represented  at this conference with participants including PHIGS\n          users, workstation vendors, third-party PHIGS implementors, stan-\n          dards  committee  members,  and  researchers  from  industry  and\n          academia.  The opening speaker, Dr. Richard Puk, challenged PHIGS\n          users  to  \"take  charge of your PHIGS\" by participating in PHIGS\n          standardization activities and communicating their needs to PHIGS\n          implementors.    The   closing  speaker,  Dr.  Andries  Van  Dam,\n          described his vision of the future of graphics standards  \"beyond\n          PHIGS\".\n\n          Technical paper sessions in the conference covered the  following\n          topics:  PHIGS  and  X, Application Toolkits, Application Issues,\n          Texture Mapping, NURBS,  PHIGS  Extensions,  and  Object-Oriented\n          Libraries and Frameworks.  Panel sessions on PHIGS and PEX, PHIGS\n          Non-Retained Data, Real-World CAD Applications Using  PHIGS,  and\n          Portability  Issues generated enthusiastic discussions and formed\n          a good forum for exchange of ideas, needs, and experiences.   The\n          conference  also included a day full of tutorials on topics rang-\n          ing from mathematics for 3D  graphics  to  object-oriented  tools\n          based on PHIGS.\n\n          Next year's conference is planned for March, 1994.\n\n          PHIGS EVERYWHERE\n\n          At the conference, PHIGS  vendors   described   and  demonstrated\n          PHIGS  products  that  run on all types of computers, from PCs to\n          mainframes.\n\n          Megatek Corporation demonstrated their PHIGS extensions including\n          conditional traversal, composite logical input devices, texturing\n          and translucency.\n\n          Template Graphics  Software  launched  FIGARO+  PRO,  the  Photo-\n          Realistic  Option  for  PHIGS+.  FIGARO+  PRO  is designed to add\n          advanced rendering to the existing PHIGS+ API, with features like\n          ray   tracing,  materials,  anti-aliasing  and  texture  mapping.\n          Radiosity support is also planned.\n\n          FIGARO+ is an example of how TGS continues to add newly  emerging\n          graphics  features to their products.  FIGARO+ supports immediate\n          mode extensions to PHIGS and also supports SUN XGL,  HP  Starbase\n          and SGI GL\/OpenGL. FIGARO+ for NT will be released this summer.\n\n          TGS also demonstrated the latest versions of FIGraph, a  powerful\n          \"2-call\"  charting  system  based on PHIGS+, and FIGt, an object-\n          oriented utility library for PHIGS\/PEX developers.\n\n          G5G and Gallium Software demonstrated a new version of GPHIGS  on\n          Silicon  Graphics  workstations. Scheduled for summer, 1993, Ver-\n          sion 3.0 of GPHIGS, the company's  PHIGS+  library  for  worksta-\n          tions,  will include an advanced PHIGS debugger that allows PHIGS\n          developers to display and browse PHIGS structures and other PHIGS\n          internal  state.  G5G  also  described  their Non-Duplicated Data\n          Store that stores pointers to application data in the GPHIGS  CSS\n          for  more  efficient  use  of  memory. In addition, G5G described\n          their application GSE that allows application callback  functions\n          during  GPHIGS traversal.  GPHIGS and PHIGURE, G5G's data visual-\n          izer and application development toolkit, are currently available\n          on  all  major  workstations  that support GL, X Windows, PEX, or\n          Starbase.\n\n          Wise Software presented a slide show of  Z-PHIGS  for  MS-Windows\n          and ARENA, a PHIGS based modeller\/render. Z-PHIGS implements most\n          of the PHIGS+ primitives.  In addition Z-PHIGS has built in  many\n          advanced  rendering features like texture mapping, shadow genera-\n          tion, area quick updates and ray tracing. A demo disk of  Z-PHIGS\n          or ARENA is available on request.\n\n          ATC exhibited GRAFPAK-PHIGS, their full-featured PHIGS  implemen-\n          tation  based  on  DEC  PHIGS. GRAFPAK-PHIGS is available on most\n          workstation platforms with C, FORTRAN and Ada bindings and incor-\n          porates PEX support.\n\n          Within the booth sponsored by Advanced Technology Center, Digital\n          Equipment  Corporation demonstrated DEC PHIGS V2.4 running on the\n          DEC 3000\/400 AXP PXG. ATCs' GRAFPAK-PHIGS is a port of DEC PHIGS.\n          DEC  PHIGS  V2.4 contains most PHIGS and PHIGS PLUS features with\n          support for PEX V5.1  protocol.  DEC  PHIGS  also  contains  most\n          GM\/EDS   PHIGS  extensions  including  post-to-view  as  well  as\n          proprietary extensions to support immediate  mode  rendering  and\n          the use of PHIGS in an X11 environment.\n\n          AXP, DEC, and DEC PHIGS are trademarks of Digital Equipment  Cor-\n          poration.  GRAFPAK-PHIGS and ATC are trademarks of Advanced Tech-\n          nology Center. PEX and X11 are trademarks of Massachusetts Insti-\n          tute of Technology.\n\n          The IBM exhibit featured a GTO accelerator attached to an IBM 340\n          workstation running graPHIGS and PEX.\n\n          Hewlett Packard and SHOgraphics demonstrated at the conference. A\n          Hewlett  Packard  machine was coupled to display on a SHOgraphics\n          PEX terminal. HP showcased their latest  PHIGS  product  enhance-\n          ments.\n\n\n          PHIGS USER GROUP\n\n          The PHIGS Users Group was formed to aid the development of  PHIGS\n          applications  and provide user feedback to PHIGS implementors and\n          PHIGS standards bodies.  For more  information  about  the  PHIGS\n          Users Group, send e-mail to:\n\n                    phigsug@cadrt10.me.vt.edu\n\n          or write to:\n\n                    Sankar Jayaram\n                    Virginia Polytechnic Institute\n                    114 Randolph Hall\n                    Blacksburg, Va. 24061-0238\n                    FAX: 703-231-9100\n\n\n          VENDOR CONTACTS\n\n          Megatek Corporation\n          TEL (619) 455-5590\n          FAX (619) 453-7603\n\n          Template Graphics Software\n          TEL (800) 544-4847\n          FAX (619) 452-2547\n\n          WISE software GmbH\n          TEL +49-451-3909-413\n          FAX +49-451-3909-499\n\n          G5G - North American Sales\n          TEL (800) 267-2626\n          FAX (613) 592-1278\n\n          Advanced Technology Center\n          TEL (800) 999-5711\n          FAX (714) 583-9213\n\n          Digital Equipment Corporation\n          TEL (603) 884-5111\n\n          International Business Machines Corporation\n          TEL (800) 426-3333\n\n          Hewlett Packard Company\n          TEL (303) 229-3800\n\n          COPIES OF THE CONFERENCE PROCEEDINGS\n\n          Copies of the conference proceedings may be obtained by  contact-\n          ing Mary Johnson at:\n\n                    Johnson, Mary\n                    Design and Manufacturing Institute\n                    Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute\n                    110 Eighth Street\n                    Building CII, Room 7015\n                    Troy, NY  12180-3590\n                    Tel:  (518)276-6754\n                    Fax:  (518)276-2702\n                    Email:  mjohnson@rdrc.rpi.edu\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nYou should realize that form letters are the *worst* way to influence\nyour congresscritters; exact copies are routinely placed on the lowest\nrung of the opinion ladder.\n\nIf you want to write (and I think you should!), take the time to really\n*write* a letter.  Things to emphasize:\n\n\t- It's been said that Usenet is available to the 'technical\n\t  elite', i.e. the techies at corporate sites and universi-\n\t  ties.  Emphasize that you are part of the group that will\n\t  be making\/developing\/using Clinton's 'data superhighway.'\n\n\t- Explain how you are intimately familiar with both computing\n\t  and data communications. (if this is the case; don't call your-\n\t  self an 'expert' after wiring in a 1200 bps modem.)   This\n\t  will distinguish your letter from the random flamers.  Don't\n\t  turn it into braggadocio; just tell them that you know the\n\t  technical sides of the issue.\n\n\t- Don't overdo jargon and gobbledygook.  Remember, your letter\n\t  will be first read (in all likelihood) by a staffer who may\n\t  even be a college student; if they don't understand it, your\n\t  views won't even make the 'running total' sheets.\n\n\t- Be concise; don't ramble.  Rants are *definitely* out of place.\n\t  Cite references, if necessary, but only use \"accepted\" references\n\t  like academic journals.  \"My neighbor Jim\" is *not* a real refer-\n\t  ence.  8)\n\n\t- Unfortunately, very few Congresscritters *really* understand\n\t  electronic communications.  Encourage them to pick up access\n\t  to Compuserve, America Online, or one of the Free-Nets.  Offer\n\t  to send them samples.  If you are in a position to do so, offer\n\t  them (or their staffers back in the home state) access to your\n\t  systems.  Offer to give a demonstration the next time they're in\n\t  town.  Your offer to get *personally* involved in helping them\n\t  *will* give your opinions more credence.\n\n\t- In addition to sending mail to your representatives, send mail\n\t  to the members of the committee (or subcommittee) that is dealing\n\t  with the issue.  If your Congresscritter isn't on the committee,\n\t  they can't be of much help until the matter comes to the floor.\n\n--Wes\n\nps> I'd suggest drawing analogies between digital communication and the\n    more traditional media, but Usenet doesn't have a decent track record\n    in the analogy department.  8)\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Sorry, but I just wanted to be the first hypocrite to say it. I hope\nI'm not too late. Has everyone been watching their local\/national\npoliticians?\n\nRick\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nOkay, I'll bite.  How can OBP be *lower* than batting average?\nSac flies or something?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
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{"text":"\n\n\n\nI wouldn't worry too much about it, though.  We are starting to find\nout how politically impotent homosexuals really are.  The Colorado\nboycott has fizzled, Slick Willie was effectively prevented from\nimplementing his military policy wrt homosexuals by members of his\n_OWN_ party, this new study casts a large shadow of doubt on their\nclaims of large numbers, and coming this Saturday they are going to\nwind up with _TREMENDOUS_ egg on their face when, I submit, no more\nthan perhaps 35,000 queers will show up in Washington while they are\npromising crowds in the millions.  And most of the ones who will be\nthere will look like ACT-UP and Queer Nation, not the guy working in\nthe next cubicle.  As if that's really going to play in middle\nAmerica.\n\nPretty soon they will find themselves retreating back into the closet\nwhere they belong.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nIt is possible that the individual saw a true prophetic vision, but that he\ninterpreted the scale of time and space according to his material con-\nsciousness, translating the supersensible perceptions of a plane above\nthat of time and space into an immediate worldly context -- and getting it\nwrong.  Not that he did it rationally, but rather that unconsciously the\nperceptions became clothed in material images, instead of remaining in the\nrealm of the potential and not-yet-time-space-bound.  This difficulty of\ntranslating prophetic vision into a concrete when and where has always been\ndifficult, even for the prophets of old.  That is why their prophecies are\nso often subject to multiple interpretations.  Likewise, the Apostles seemed\nto feel that the return of the Lord was to be \"very soon\" in the sense of\nperhaps the same generation. Yet the meaning of \"very soon\" has proven to\nbe different than they could grasp.  Prophetic vision tends to telescope\ntime, so that things that are far off appear to be very close.\n\nAnother possibility is that the vision was one of a real event preparing to\nhappen, again in the realm of the potential-but-not-yet-manifest and which\nwas thwarted by other forces, including possibly an act of divine mercy.\n\nThere are many concrete prophecies being made these days by devout and\nsincere and sober Christians (and others too).  It seems that great coming \nevents are really casting their shadow before their arrival in these \n\"apocalyptic\" times.  The various predictions (I'm talking about those that\nappear to be sincere and sober) are hard to accept, yet hard to ignore com-\npletely.  One has the feeling \"something is about to start to get ready to \nbegin to commence to happen\".  We are living, as the Chinese saying goes,\nin interesting times.\n\nAs for how to discriminate, the Bible doesn't help much.  There is an Old\nTestament passage (I forget where it is) that says you will know whether\na prophet is true by whether or not his prophecy comes to pass.  That\nhelps eliminate the failures after the fact, but in the case of an earth-\nquake it is small comfort.  It seems to me that all prophecies that give\nspecific times and places and events should be suspect, not in that they\nare necessarily false, but in the sense stated above, that all such visions\nare subject to mistranslation from the plane of prophetic vision to the\nplane of earthly time and space.\n\nFor what it is worth, Rudolf Steiner once was asked whether a modern initiate \ncould see into the future and predict coming events.  His answer was that \nit would be possible but then he would have to withdraw from active parti-\ncipation in them, including proclaiming what he saw.  If this is in fact\na spiritual law, then the answer to your question about how to discriminate\nis that the one who makes such prophecies is probably violating that law,\nknowingly or unknowingly, and as such his message should be considered\na priori to be dubious.  I.e. I would expect that those capable of making\ntrue predictions and giving accurate expression to them would not do so in \nthe way that the prophet of the Oregon earthquake did.  However, I can\nsympathize with the person who published the prophecy. Given the same\noverwhelming experience that he apparently had,  I too might feel impelled, \nand even commissioned by God to tell my fellow human beings about what \nI had seen.\n\nGerry Palo (73237.2006@compuserve.com)\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nIn 1967, when I was a grad student at UW in Seattle I had a chance to \nread Hoover's book \"Masters of Deceit\", and I quote a sentence (from \nmemory):\n\n\"and beware my fellow Americans, a communist may look just as an \nordinary person...\"\n\nI went to the mirror and it was true.\n\n-- \nBorut B. Lavrencic, D.Sc.     | X.400   :C=si;A=mail;P=ac;O=ijs;S=lavrencic\nJ. Stefan Institute           | Internet:Borut.B.Lavrencic@ijs.si\nUniversity of Ljubljana,      | Phone   :+ 386 1 159 199\nSI-61111 Ljubljana, Slovenia  |\t    PGP Public Key available on request","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n      Give ME a break, chum.  Are you telling me that Clinton and\n      Reno DID NOT KNOW that the BATF actions were ILLEGAL, adn\n      in VIOLATION of their warrant?\n\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"As a guess, Hamilton would be put into the Midwest, with either\nWinnipeg or Dallas moving to the Pacific.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n\nYeah, it's the second one.  And I believe that price too.  I've been trying\nto get a good look at it on the Bruin-Sabre telecasts, and wow! does it ever\nlook good.  Whoever did that paint job knew what they were doing.  And given\nFuhr's play since he got it, I bet the Bruins are wishing he didn't have it:)\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I am considering creating a \"demo\" for the IBM PC for my band.\nI would like to combine interesting graphics and a sample of \nmy music in the program.  I have seen things like this\ndone for other platforms, and even a few for the PC, but since\nI'm completly new to this, I have no idea wher to start.\nI'm pretty sure that I am not skilled enough to put this \ntogether, but I was hoping that you (collectivly) could\nA. Let me know what issues I need to worry about, things I\n   Should take into consideration when developing the \n   concept.\nB. Perhaps someone knows of a programmer\/artist who would be interested\n   in this type of a project.\n\nI know these are rather broad questions, but any information\nwould be most helpful.  Thanks!!\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nHere is the short answer: because only\ncertain marriages are recorded in Heaven.\n\nNow for the long answer:\n\nIn Doctrine and Covenants section 132, the \nchapter discussing eternal marriage (and, yes,\nplural marriage), the distinction between\nsealings under the priesthood and other \nmarriages is revealed.  \n\nWhen \"the children of this world marry, or are\ngiven in marriage\" when they receive \"the \nresurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are\ngiven in marriage\" (Luke 20:34-35).\nJesus was simply teaching that marriages \"until\ndeath do you part\" are not in force after death.\n\nHowever, the Doctrine and Covenants continues \ndescribing eternal marriage.\n\nD&C 132:19\n   And again, verily I say unto you, if a \nman marry a wife by my word, which is my law, and\nby the new and everlasting covenant, and it is\nsealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of promise,\nby him who is anointed this power and the keys \nof this priesthood; ... [ shortened for brevity AI]\nand shall be of full force when they are out of\nthe world; and they shall pass by the angels, \nand the gods, which are set there, to their \nexhaltation and glory in all things, as hath been \nsealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a \nfulness and a continuation of the seeds forever\nand ever.\n\nThe Lord told Peter \"whatsoever thou shalt bind\non earth shall be bound in heaven\" (Matt 16:19).\nDo you doubt that Peter was given the power to \nperform sealings?\nPeter thought so because he taught that husbands\nand wives were \"heirs *together* of the grace of\nlife\" (1 Peter 3:7).\n\n\"In order to obtain the highest\" (degree of\ncelestial glory), a man must enter into this\norder of the priesthood\" (D&C 131:2).\nWhen a man and wife are sealed they truly become \n\"one flesh\" because their eternal \"increase\" \n(destinies) are enjoined completely.\n\nOur Father has an eternal companion (and maybe\nmore because of the plural marriage conditions\nof the law) who participated in our creation\nand is equally concerned with our progress here.\n\nThere is no scriptural basis for this doctrine.\nIf fact, the only mention of our Mother is in\none verse of a hymn written early in the history\nof the Church:\n\n    O My Father\n\n    I had learned to call thee Father,\n    Through thy Spirit from on high,\n    But, until the key of knowledge\n    Was restored, I knew not why.\n    In the heav'ns are parents single?\n    No, the thought makes reason stare!\n    Truth is reason; truth eternal\n    Tells me I've a mother there.\n\nWhy don't we hear more about our Mother?\n\n1.  Because our Father presides under Priesthood\nauthority (which is not a calling for Her);\n\n2.  Because we don't all (necessarily) have the\nsame Mother it would be confusing for worship;\n\n3.  Because our Father wishes to withhold Her\nname and titles because of how some people\ndegrade sacred things.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nI was in fact going to suggest that Roger take his way of discussion over\nto r.s.football.pro. There this kind of hormone-only reasoning is the\nstandard. Being he canadian, and hockey what it is, I would have suggested\nthat r.s.h would work too. It is important in a thread that everyone\ninvolved use the same body part to produce a post (brain being the organ\nof choice here).","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":" crud deleted... \n\nYou are missing out on a lot of neat old rides.\n-- \n-----------------------------------------------------------------------\n\"Tuba\" (Irwin)      \"I honk therefore I am\"     CompuTrac-Richardson,Tx\nirwin@cmptrc.lonestar.org    DoD #0826          (R75\/6)","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nWell, no.  Although I admit that's more exciting than a rat killer.\n-- \nDale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nHi, \n\nI posted that article. Unfortunately I haven't seen any further notice of\nit. They advertize cheaper Duo's at the U here for next wek. According\nto the articel though, the price cut had to be effective the same day.\n\nnewsbyte is a group of news like clarinet.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I've been reading the sci.crypt, alt.privacy.clipper and comp.org.eff.talk\ndiscussions about the Clipper chip and find (as usual) that most of us\nthink alike -- so there's a lot of repitition.  If each of these messages\nwere sent to Clinton as well as to the net (or instead of to the net), we\nmight actually have some effect.\n\n\t0005895485@MCIMAIL.COM  (White House)\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I posted this once but didn't receive any responses.\n\nI've been looking for a good notebook for about $1700.  My two\nfavorites are the Zeos Freestyle\/SL and the Micro something or\nother Winbook (the one with the Apple Powerbook style trackball\nand handrest and the 486SLC).\n\nAny suggestions on others?  I'd love to hear from someone who has\none of the two mentioned above, too.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\n\t\tI have two 3b1s for sale. One of them is a 1MB RAM\n\tand the other one is a 2MB RAM system. They are both running\n\tthe 3.51m version and I have loaded lots of software on them\n\tfrom the network like gcc, emacs, tex\/latex and so on. I am\n\tasking $500 for the 1MB, and $650 for the 2MB model or best \n\toffer.\n\n______________________________________________________________________________\n Odysseas Pentakalos\t\t\t\todysseas@umbc7.umbc.edu or\n University of Md. Electrical Engineering Dept. \n\t\t\t\t\todysseas@polaris.medinfo.ab.umd.edu\n (301) 498-3749\t\t\t\t\t(410) 706-2042","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nYup.\n\n\nI expect better from you, 'Mau'. No, I take that back, I don't. The \ntreaty on the exchange of the Turkish and Greek minorities (1923) left \nno Greek minority in Turkiye, except a few thousand Greeks in istanbul. \nTurkiye is no longer an obstacle for 'Pan-Hellenism.' Although the material \nbasis of Greek policy is no longer visible, there is a residue, which \nseems to unite the Pelopenisians, the Greeks who came from Asia Minor, \nthe Greeks who are originally from the islands of the Marmara Sea\nor those who live in the numerous Aegean islands. This residue is \nalso recognizable in the contemporary Greek government.\n\n\nNot a chance. Greece lost in each and every war conducted \"solely\" \nbetween Greece and Turkiye: in the Morea in 1821, in Thessaly in \n1897-98, and in Anatolia in 1922. After the Ottoman Empire lost \nWorld War I, the British landed in 1919 a 200,000 Greek army in \nIzmir to exterminate the people of Turkiye. Are you suffering \nfrom a severe case of amnesia? The tired and defeated Turks rose up,\nformed a National Force under the leadership of Mustafa Kemal, and\non August 30, 1922 they annihilated the bulk of the Greek Army.\n\n\n\nI love people who don't read and then spout myths as evidence. Where\nwere Greeks in 1912 and 1913? I guess, they were busy with...\n\n  Greek Efforts to Decimate the Jewish Population of Salonica\n             Culminated in 1912 and 1913\n\n  <<Those Jews who survived these assaults in Southeastern Europe fled\n  particularly to Salonica, whose Jewish population increased substantially\n  as a result, from 28,000 in 1876 to 90,000 in 1908, more than half the\n  total population, though even there increased persecution by local Greeks\n  led many Jews to flee elsewhere in the Ottoman Empire, particularly to\n  the great port of Izmir.\n\n  Despite all the pressure from Ottomans and foreign Jews alike, the ritual\n  murders and other assaults by Christians on Jews went on and on. Greek\n  efforts to decimate the Jewish population of Salonica culminated in 1912\n  and 1913, following Greek conquest of Salonica during the first Balkan War,\n  when many of its Jews, were either killed or terrorized into leaving...>>\n\n  <<Though Greece was obligated by the post World War I treaties to allow\n  Jews and other minorities to use their own languages in education and to\n  practice their religions without hindrance, a law was issued in 1923\n  which forbad all inhabitants from working on Sunday, stimulating a new\n  Jewish exodus as it was intended to do. Between 1932 and 1934 there was a\n  series of anti-Semitic riots in Salonica, with the Cambel quarter, where\n  most of the remaining Jews lived, being burned to the ground. This\n  was followed by regulations requiring the use of Greek and prohibiting\n  Hebrew and Judea-Spanish in the Jewish schools. A start was made also\n  on expropriating the land of the principal Jewish cemetery in Salonica\n  for use by the new University in order to derive the Jews out [47]. By\n  killing and driving out large numbers of Jews, the Greeks left a\n  substantial Greek majority in the city for the first time, and starting\n  Salonica Jewry on the way to its final decimation by the Nazis during the\n  occupation of Greece starting in 1941.\n\n  Salonica and Izmir of course were not the only places of refuge for\n  Jewish refugees entering the Empire during its last century of existence.\n  Istanbul, Edirne, and other parts of Rumelia and Anatolia received\n  thousands more. Nor were Jews the only refugees received and helped by\n  the government of the Sultan. Thousands of Muslims accompanied them in\n  flight from similar persecutions wherever Balkan christian states gained\n  independence or expanded. The Russian conquest of the Crimea and the\n  Caucasus starting in the late eighteenth century, and particularly during\n  and after the Crimean War, combined with the same independence movements\n  in Southeastern Europe that had caused so much suffering and flight among\n  its Jews caused thousands of helpless, ill, and poverty-stricken Muslim\n  refugees to accompany them into the ever shrinking boundaries of the\n  Ottoman Empire, with the Istanbul government struggling mightly but vainly\n  to house and feed them as best it could. From 1850 to 1864 as many as\n  800,000 Crimean Tatars, Circassians, and other Muslims from north and\n  east of the Black Sea had entered Anatolia alone, as many as 200,000 more\n  came during the next twenty years, while 474,389 refugees entered in 1876-\n  1877 as a result of the Ottoman wars with Russia and the Balkan states,\n  with an equal number gaining refuge in the European portions of the\n  Empire.>>\n\n[47] Robert Mantran, 'La structure sociale de la communaute juive de\n  Salonqiue a la fin du dix-neuvieme siecle', RH no.534 (1980), 391-92;\n  Nehama VII, 762; Joseph Nehama (Salonica) to AIU (Paris) no.2868\/2,\n  12 May 1903 (AIU Archives I-C-43); and no.2775, 10 January 1900 (AIU\n  Archives I-C-41), describing daily battles between Jewish and Greek\n  children in the streets of Salonica. Benghiat, Director of Ecole Moise\n  Allatini, Salonica, to AIU (Paris), no.7784, 1 December 1909 (AIU\n  Archives I-C-48), describing Greek attacks on Jews, boycotts of Jewish\n  shops and manufacturers, and Greek press campaigns leading to blood libel\n  attacks. Cohen, Ecole Secondaire Moise Allatini, Salonica, to AIU (Paris),\n  no.7745\/4, 4 December 1912 (AIU Archives I-C-49) describes a week of terror\n  that followed the Greek army occupation  of Salonica in 1912, with the\n  soldiers pillaging the Jewish quarters and destroying Jewish synagogues,\n  accompanied by what he described as an 'explosion of hatred' by local\n  Greek population against local Jews and Muslims. Mizrahi, President of the\n  AIU at Salonica, reported to the AIU (Paris), no.2704\/3, 25 July 1913\n  (AIU Archives I-C-51) that 'It was not only the irregulars (Comitadjis)\n  that massacred, pillaged and burned. The Army soldiers, the Chief of\n  Police, and the high civil officials also took an active part in the\n  horrors...', Moise Tovi (Salonica) to AIU (Paris) no.3027 (20 August 1913)\n  (AIU Archives I-C-51) describes the Greek pillage of the Jewish quarter\n  during the night of 18-19 August 1913.\n\n(AIU = Alliance Israelite Universelle, Paris.)\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Much of Cook's later exploration was privately funded, by Joseph Banks\namong others (eg in Resolution & the earlier Endeavour).  Colnett's voyage\nto the Galapagos was substantially privately funded by the owners of\nBritish whaling vessels.  Chancellor and Willoughby were privately funded\nby London merchant companies in their voyages to Muscovy.  The list is\nalmost endless.  Those doing the funding were about eighty percent\nmotivated by potential profit, ten percent by potential glory and ten\npercent by the desire to advance the sum of human knowledge.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nThe variance from perfect sphericity in a model of the earth small enough\nto fit into your home would probably be imperceptible.\n\nAny globe you can buy will be close enough.\n\n\n\n\n-- ","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"To all netters,\n\n  In my last post that concerning about the CYRIX 486DLC CPU, I said the\nbenchmark program COMPTEST stated there is a bug in CYRIX CPUs. This is NOT\ntrue and I must apologize to the author of COMPTEST. The actual program\nthat gives this report is F-PROT 2.07, a virus detection and removal\nprogram. The report stated there is a bug in the Cx486SLC but not DLC.\nSorry, sorry, sorry...","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"#                     \n#                        A S T R O - F T P   L I S T\n#                             Updated 28.04.1993\n#\n# This  is  a  short  description  of  anonymous-ftp  file  servers  containing\n# astronomy  and space research related material.  I have  included only  those\n# servers  where  there are  special subdirectories  for  astro stuff  or  much\n# material  included into  a general  directories.  This list is not a complete\n# data set of possible places,  so I would be very happy of all kind of notices\n# and information depending on this listing.\n#\n# The newest version of this file is available via anonymous-ftp as:\n#\n#                nic.funet.fi:\/pub\/astro\/general\/astroftp.txt\n#                                       \n# There are also many mirror (copy) archives  for  simtel-20.army.mil (PC)  and \n# sumex-aim.stanford.edu (Mac) which are not included into this list. Only some\n# of mirroring sites are listed.\n#\n#\n#                                              Veikko Makela\n#                                         Veikko.Makela@Helsinki.FI\n#                                    *Computing Centre of Univ. 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{"text":"\n[massive dan blather mercifully deleted.]\n\n\n\n\nLast time I checked, \"amassing an arsenal\" and practicing any kind of\nreligion were mentioned in passing in the Bill of Rights.  Guess it's\nOK with you if we just brush 'em aside in order to justify killing\na bunch of religious nutcakes, eh?\n\nOf all the idiots I run into in daily life, Dan, your type scare me the\nmost.  You'll accept expediency and a coward's safety over any belief\njust as long as the government tells you to.  You assume that anyone who\ndoesn't comform to your beliefs and ways of thinking are wrong and\ntherefore bad.  Worse, you seem to accept without question what the\ngovernment says is wrong to be wrong.\n\nDavid Koresh's religion was not mine but then again, neither are the baptists,\nmethodists, catholics or any of the rest of the corporate religions.  BUT\neven though Koresh's, the Baptists, the methodists, etc, don't believe\nthe same way I do, I recognize that their religions are equally valid\nto mine and more importantly are equally protected under the 1st Amendment.\nYou see, I'm not that much different than Koresh and I suspect many others\nfit the same catagory.  I read the Bible many times and as I learned \nfrom it, I discovered that a lot of what corporate religions practice\njust isn't justified by MY interpretation of the Bible.  Therefore I go\nmy own way.  So did Koresh.  And neither you nor I nor anyone else,\neither individually or collectively as the great socialist \"we\" has ANY \nRIGHT WHATSOEVER to tell me or you or Koresh that our religions are wrong.\n\nYou seem to think that it would have been oh so easy for the Davidians to\njust forsake everything they believed in and walk out of their compound\nin order to \"save themselves\".  Think (if you're capable) for a moment\nabout some belief you hold dearest.  Would you abandon that belief if\nsuddenly told to do so by the government?  If you would do so you are\nbeneath contempt.  Let's assume you have a belief that you hold dear\nenough to commit your life to.  Do you think it would be the correct\ncourse of action for your government to initiate actions specifically\ndesigned to force you to make that \"forsake or die\" decision?\n\nThe \"forsake or die\" option is exactly what the government forced on the\nDavidians the day the first wave of black-clad stormtroopers fired that\nfirst shot and tossed that first grenade.  The FBI clenched it on Day 51\nwhen they sent in heavy armor against 80-some-odd men, women and\nchildren holed up in a rickety old building and armed with small arms.  The\npeople who stayed, who held to their beliefs over personal safety, whose\nindividual personal honors demanded they die rather than submit, who\nbelieved that the Bill of Rights meant exactly what it says, to those\npeople go my deepest respect, regardless of their religion.  People like\nyou who blithely blow off the murder of 80 people with \"well they could\nhave come out\" get my most scornful contempt.  I'd spit in your face\nwere there not a network between us.  You're not worth the ashes of\nthose people who burned.\n\nJohn","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Sorry about the garbage code, the following is used of course:\n\nXSetForeground(Disp, PixGC, BackgroundColor);\nXFillRectangle(Disp, Pixs, PixGC, 0, 0, Scr_width, Scr_height);\nXSetForeground(Disp, PixGC, ForegroundColor);\nXDraw[Line|String|Rectangle](Disp, Pixs, PixGC, ...);\nXCopyArea(Disp, Pixs, Win, PixGC, 0, 0, Win_width, Win_height, 0, 0);\n\nJuergen Schietke\nResearch Insitute for Discrete Mathematics\nUniversity of Bonn\nNassestr. 2\n5300 Bonn 1","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n[HAMID] Anybody has any information about the number of the people have been \n[HAMID] killed by Israel  during these 44 HAPPY YEAR?\n\nDoes anybody know how many Jews, Arabs, Christians and others have died \nin terrorist attacks and wars over these 45 years due to Arab rhetoric and \nrejectionism? The number is probably close to 100,000 at least.\n\nAll these lives wasted because the ARABS did not accept the PARTITION PLAN \nin 1947.\n\nTsiel","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nAccording to the recent TSN report Peter Puck is not paying any interest\non the Treasury Branch loans.  That's a lot of green.\n\n\nAgain, according to TSN, virtually everything that Peter Puck has already \nhas liens against it.  Of course we can't really be sure of this. \n\n\nThe Oiler rationale regarding the renegotiation of player contracts is\nthat a deal is a deal.  Sather has spouted this repeatedly.  Pocklinton\nhas a contract with Northlands until 1999.  A deal is a deal.  Perhaps\nif he included the income he has received from his sale of assets (players\nsuch as Gretzky) and the income he has received in expansion fees with\nhis revenues he wouldn't be losing money.  He has admitted pulling this\nmoney out of the Oiler franchise to put into his other businesses. \n\n\nI think that Pocklington has received ample provincial subsidization.  \nI can't really blame him for going after municipal subsidization but \nhe is certainly not entitled to it.  Pocklington has \"sucked\" revenue\nout of the Oilers in order to prop up his failing business interests.\nPocklington is not to be trusted.  I doubt very much that any Oiler\nteam will ever again make the playoffs under Pocklington's stewardship.\nAs soon as a player shows himself to be a competent NHL'er and expects\nto be paid accordingly he is shipped off for younger players and or\ndraft picks.\n\n\n-- ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nOh. OK then, sorry for misunderstanding.\n\n\nMaybee you should persuade your burea that for only $650 they can become much\nmore competitive, taking input from Autocad, PostScript andGif as well as\nSCODL... \n\nSeriously, this sounds like something the bureau should have. Or find another\nbureau. You should not be the one buting this software.\n\n--\nChris Lilley\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTechnical Author, ITTI Computer Graphics and Visualisation Training Project\nComputer Graphics Unit, Manchester Computing Centre, Oxford Road, \nManchester, UK.  M13 9PL                        Internet: C.C.Lilley@mcc.ac.uk \nVoice: +44 (0)61 275 6045  Fax: +44 (0)61 275 6040 Janet: C.C.Lilley@uk.ac.mcc","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"    ...\n    ...\n\n    Interesting idea.\n\n    This suggestion has inspired me to post, under the title \"Theories \nof Creation\", a collection of various \"philosophies\" of creation that \nI am aware of.  Could you explain which of these theories you would\nwant taught, and which ones you would not?  Or, perhaps, I haven't\nincluded a favorite theory of yours (if so, could you describe it for\nme for inclusion in an updated list)?\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
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{"text":"Hi,\n\nI got a NE2100 compatible ethernet card, and I just received my copy\nof Chameleon NFS. Unfortunately, it is not compatible with the NE2100\n(only NE2000 or NE1000). What is the latest version number for Chameleon\nNFS ? Did soemone tackle this problem ?\n\nThanks for help,\n\nF. Popineau\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I have a 486 sx 25 and I recently added a SCSI drive to my system using an  \nAdaptec 1522 (non busmastering) controller. Yesterday I ran coretest to  \nfind out drive performance and these are the values I got\n\nSeagate 106 Meg: 875.1kb\/Sec\t14.5ms avg seek   3.7ms track to track \nQuantum 400 Meg SCSI: 991.2 Kb\/sec  12.7 avg seek 3.6 track to track.\n\nFirst off all are these good results? I don't know what typical values  \nare.\n\nWhat I'm wondering now is the following. My swap file is currently on the  \nIDE. I could move it to the SCSI which is 13% faster, but then I would not  \nbe able to use 32-bit access which might actuall make it slower. So on  \nwhich drive should I put my swap file to get best results? Is there a swap  \nfile speed test program out there?\n\nFinally, I also ran the above tests with the ASPI2DOS driver loaded and I  \ngot no difference whatsoever in performance. Is there any reason at all  \nwhy I should load this driver?\n\nThanks in advance, I will post a summary if I get enough responses.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I was wondering if anyone knew of where I could find source\ncode for a program to solve a substitution cipher?  \n\nThanks!\nKevin","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I have forsale a 486 25 slc notebook very small\nINCLUDES THE FOLLOWING:  CYRIX 486 25MHZ PROC. ( FAST )\n                         MIDWEST MICRO ELITE SERIES\n                         60 MEG HARD DRIVE (120 W\/ STACKER)\n                         1 3.5INCH DRIVE\n                         1 SERIAL, 1 PARALLEL\n                         2 MEGS OF RAM ( UPGRADABLE TO 8 MEGS )\n                         64 shades of grey VGA\n                         built in trackball\n                         very fast machine\n                         LOADED WITH WINDOWS,STACKER\n                         DOS 5.0,\n                         CARRYING CASE, AND POWER SUPPLY\n\nbought it just 3 months ago for $1500.00 and realized\nI don't need this much power in a notebook.\nI was asking $1300.00... Now the first person with $1150.00 takes it.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Earlier today I read an ad for REAL-3D animation & ray-tracing software and\nit looked very convincing to me. However, I don't own an Amiga and so I began \nto wonder, if there's a PC version of it.\n\nSo, has anyone seen\/used REAl-3D for DOS??\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":": \n: How about contaminants on the corn, e.g. aflatoxin???\n: \nLittle alflatoxin on commercial cereal products and certainly wouldn't\ncause seizures.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Los Angeles Times, Saturday, May 8, 1993.  Page A11.\n\nFIGURE IN ADL SPY CASE ARRESTED AT S.F. AIRPORT\n\n    ESPIONAGE: Former police officer is taken into custody upon\n    arriving from Philippines, where he had fled after FBI\n    interrogation.\n\nBy Jenifer Warren, Times staff writer\n\nSan Francisco -- A former San Francisco police officer who fled to the\nPhilippines amid accusations that he funneled confidential law\nenforcement information to an investigator for the Anti-Defamation\nLeague was arrested at the airport here on 11 felony charges, police\nsaid Friday.\n\nThomas J. Gerard who abruptly left the United States in October after\nthe FBI questioned him about his activities, was apprehended Thursday\nnight after a source in the Philippines told investigators that Gerard\nwas returning home.\n\nGerard, 50, was booked into San Francisco County Jail early Friday\nmorning on eight counts of theft of government documents and one count\neach of computer theft, burglary and conspiracy.\n\nIf convicted on all charges, Gerard could face 16 years in prison and\n$40,000 in fines.  Bail was initially set at $250,000 after police\nargued that he was a flight risk, but it was later reduced to $20,000. \nA friend of Gerard was trying to post bail late Friday afternoon, a\nsheriff's spokeswoman said.\n\nGerard returned to the United because he missed his wife and child,\nwith whom he lived on a houseboat in Sausalito, and \"wanted to have\nhis day in court,\" said Police Capt. John Willett, his former boss and\none of two arresting officers.\n\nGerard, an undercover agent for the Central Intelligence Agency from\n1982 to 1985, also feared that the CIA was out to kill him, Willett\nsaid.  In an interview with The Times last month, Gerard threatened to\ndisclose illegal CIA support of death squads in Central America if he\nwas indicted and tried on the San Francisco spying charges.\n\nGerard is a central figure in a scandal over an intelligence network\noperated by the Anti-Defamation League, a prominent Jewish civil\nrights organization.  Investigators allege that Gerard illegally gave\ncriminal histories to Roy Bullock, a San Francisco art dealer who said\nhe has been an undercover ADL intelligence operative for 40 years.\n\nInvestigators said they found confidential police files in Bullock's\nhome computer -- which contained entries on 10,000 people and 950\ngroups -- and in boxes in his apartment.  Files have also been seized\nunder search warrants from ADL offices in San Francisco and Los\nAngeles but authorities have not disclosed their contents.\n\nGerard could not be reached for comment Friday, and his attorney,\nJames Lassart, did not return telephone calls seeking comment.  In the\ninterview with The Times last month, however, Gerard acknowledged\nsnooping and sharing some information with Bullock, but denied any\ncriminal wrongdoing.\n\nBullock and Gerard also are under investigation for selling\nintelligence to South Africa.\n\nADL officials have described Bullock as a $550-a-week independent\ncontractor and have vigorously denied knowledge of any illegal\nactivity.  On Friday, ADL lawyer Jerrold Ladar said Gerard's arrest\n\"has nothing to do with ADL.  Other than that, we have no comment on\nthe case.\"\n\nArab-American groups -- which were a main target of the spying,\naccording to police -- applauded the arrest and pressed authorities to\npursue the investigation.\n\n\"We urge investigators to carry this case forward and to publicly\ndisclose the full extent of ADL and law enforcement involvement,\" said\nJames Zogby, head of the Arab American Institute in Washington.\n\nPolice, meanwhile, characterized Gerard's arrest -- the first in the\ninquiry into the spying scandal -- as an unexpected breakthrough.  A\nformer police colleague of Gerard, Inspector Fred Mollat, visited\nGerard several weeks ago and urged him to return home.\n\n\"I knew he wouldn't want to live on an island on the lam forever, but\nwe didn't think it would happen this quickly,\" Capt. Willett said. \n\"This development really speeds up our timetable on the case.\"\n\nDuring his 25-year career on the police force, Gerard was a highly\nregarded officer known for his work in the department's intelligence\ndivision.  His last assignment was on the gang task force.\n\nAfter FBI agents questioned Gerard last fall, he took early retirement\nand fled to the remote jungle island of Palawan, 300 miles south of\nManila.\n\nGerard was arrested at 8:40 p.m. as he stepped from his Philippines\nAirlines flight. He was traveling alone and looked tanned but haggard\nafter his six-month hiatus, police said.\n\n\"He was surprised when he saw us standing there, and got a shocked\nlook on his face,\" Willett said.  \"Then he said, 'Hello, I'm back.'\"\n ","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nMaybe so, but it's quite common. There are millions of Macintosh users who\nhave no idea what's in Apple's patented ROMs. Many have modems connected.\nHow do you know all your business secrets aren't being stolen? Answer:\n1. Because you trust Apple;\n2. Because if any such attempt, however sophicsticated, came out, it would\ndestroy Apple's credibility forever.\n\nIn the Clipper case, a representative body of experts is going to be allowed\nto audit it, and we'll have assurances (maybe even from the President) that\nother than the escrowed keys there are no back doors. While some may not\nhave confidence in that (I am not among them), it's a lot more assurance\nthan we get for many things we routinely trust in everyday life.\n\nDavid","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Hi all netters,\n\n  If I upgrade my XT with a 286+ motherboard, will I be able to use the old\nbits and pieces like HD, FD, graphics card and I\/O card etc. Thanks for you\ninfo.\n\nP.S. I am sorry if my question is on some kind of FAQ.\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\tregards,","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"... there was a post originating from Russia advertising large quantities\nof red mercury for sale - stirred up a bit of controversy at the time.\nThen, this morning, NPR relates the news of a corruption scandal involving\nthe russian defense minister (among others), selling defense items, among\nwhich (strangely enough), was red mercury.\n\n\nyou don't suppose?????","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nThis is indeed true. I prefer Windows NT. It is certainly much better\nthan Microsoft Windows 3.1\/DOS.\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I am revamping some computer-aided visual inspection systems which\nuse the old AT&T Targa-16 Board Set (2 cards) to display images from\na color CCD camera to a color monitor, providing the option to overlay\ntext or a crosshair. No image capture or manipulation is performed, \njust display. I would like to know if there is still a source for \ndevelopment libraries which would allow me to embed commands in my\nown software to enable the camera, draw crosshairs, print text, etc.\nI'll be glad to pay if they are commercially available. E-Mail if\npossible.\n\n-- \n\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------\nJoe Ryburn |  CIM Manager               | Intergraph Corporation\n           |  Manufacturing Integration | Huntsville, AL 35894","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
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{"text":"\nInteresting.  Tell us, what happens if I were to say OK, I want to have\nsomething else.  If the law enforcement wants my traffic, they can record\nit, then get a search warrant, and get the keys FROM ME, just like they\nwould the keys to a stout private safe, etc. (Lets say I suspect that\nthere is a way to trivially crack this at the Fed level, with no warrant,\nsay for NSA scanning for keywords, etc., and the government has abused\ngreat power in the past...).\n\nSo I say \"Mr Vendor, I want something different, independent.  I am\na paranoid sort, ya understand...\".\n\nWill the result be \"Sorry, without Government permission, we cannot sell\nyou anything secure\", or would it be \"Sorry, we know which side our\nbread is buttered on, we cannot sell except to government people, law\nenforcement, and 'special' people...\".\n\nWhat, in your opinion, would be the chances of \"sure, we will sell you\nthis secure system ... be happy to...\"\n\nAlso, please be so kind as to tell us what the plans are for private\nencryption of, say files transferred by modem, or FTP, or data stored\non disk?  SURELY you have a feel for what the administration is planning\nfor us people on that....  With your rather intimate relationship with\nthe FBI, NSA, etc. you must CERTAINLY have an idea.  You are surely\nnot going to say \"the people are not to know, until it is too late...\"\nThis IS supposed to be government of the people by the PEOPLE, isn't\nit?  That is, the people ARE the government's BOSSES?  The BOSSES\nwant to know what the *@()#*&(@ is going on here...\n\nYou see, I am kind of nervous, because in the last month or so, I have\nseen a non-stop stream of ideas coming out of Wash DC that at least\nappear VERY STRONGLY to have a common trait to limit privacy (freedom\nfrom Govt eavesdropping), and the ability to defend ourselves against\nviolent attack (no, 911 is *NOT* good enough for 'common folk', they\narrive only in time to clean up the mess: I would be DEAD if I had to\ndepend on 911...).   You see, with all that talk about National smart\nID cards, limiting of encryption to 'government approved', denial of\nmeans to effective personal defense (EIGHT bills in congress right now),\nit looks an AWFULLY lot like the whole thing is to be able to trace\nEVERY ACTIVITY of an individual from cradle to grave.  All it would take\nis requiring that National ID card to be used in all transactions...\nand with no effective data protection, and with the people suitably\ndisarmed, there would not be a helluva lot they could do about it, now\nwould there?  All in the name of the War on the Constitu ... er ...\ndrugs, and of course that catch word 'terrorists'.  What is wrong with\ngood OLD-FASHIONED POLICE WORK to build a case?  They don't want to\nhave to be burdened to leave the office, it seems...\n\nPlease read the Bill of Rights (first ten amendments to the US\nConstitution) and tell us how you can reconcile this Big Brother-ish\npolicy of the Administration (always for a 'crisis' of some kind, isn't\nit?) with that Bill of Rights in the context of the people who wrote\nit?\n\nReassure us - please... (or is that no longer regarded as necessary,\nseeing as apparantly the people have NO input on this agenda, the\nAdministration preferring to make all the DECISIONS in secret, then\nspringing it on us...).  Doesn't sound much like ... by the PEOPLE\nto me.  I cannot help notice that the congress people involved were\nNOT mentioned on the press release.  I find that more than a little\nbit curious, don't you?  I sure would like to know who to not vote\nfor come election time...\n\nYes, I am upset.  I feel you are a part of this, because I recall it\nwas you that was posting HEAVILY in favor of a very similar idea (could\nhave been the SAME thing, it was so close) a few months ago...  I\nalso recall it was not well received.  Apparantly powers-that-be\nreally didn't care (or were not told, or both).\n\nFrom what I see, Clipper will ONLY be useful for conversations I don't\nwant the neighborhood kid listening in on.  Any SERIOUS security I don't\nthink I would want to trust it a bit.  Might as well use cleartext.\nCertainly corporations would be rather dumb to depend on this for serious\ntrade-secret data, especially if millions depended on that security.\nGiven enough money, one could BUY any keys they wanted.  Buy a crooked\njudge, and a crooked cop.   Given a few hundred thou, they wouldn't be\nhard to find.  So, we end up with only criminals, terrorists, and the\nGovernment with real security, and the ability to eavesdrop.  You know\nthe first two, if they are serious, ain't going to use this thing for\nTHEIR communications.  I bet the government won't, either (except perhaps\nto order a pizza).\n\nTell us, will that be prima face evidence of criminal activity,\nsomeone not using the 'government approved' methods?  That just a desire\nto have PRIVACY is no longer regarded as a legitimate right of an\nunconnected citizen?  Will that be grounds for a fly-through-the-door\nraid, and confiscation of all one's equipment, as 'terrorist tools',\nusing civil forfeiture, so there will be no inconvenient need to\nPROVE any wrongdoing on the part of the citizen?\n\nI have yet another question, are we going to see articles in all the\npublic magazines, consisting of soothing text telling us how great\nthis is, how nice the government is by LETTING us have this illusion\nof privacy?  That the government is going to be so kind as to let\nus 'sort of' exercise a RIGHT?  What you want to bet that I am\ncorrect here?\n\nPlease answer these questions.  As citizens of the United States, we\nhava a RIGHT to know what our Government plans to 'let' us have\nout of the goodness of their hearts...\n\nFunny thing, though - with all these proposals, I don't feel ONE BIT\nsafer from drug dealers, terrorists, or a common street thug.  I am\nbeginning to wonder if the greater danger lies in the above entities,\nor our own government gone out of control?\n\nRe-assure us, please.  So far, I haven't seen much to reassure me...\nand a LOT to greatly disturb me.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nPlease cite specific examples where an Arab party member was rejected\nwhile a Jewish party member was accepted.  If you examine these I am\nsure you will discover that the Arab party member did not have the power\nbase that his Jewish counterpart had.  The party structure in Israel\nhas changed quite a bit insofar as knesset member elections go.  Knesset\nmembers for most parties are now elected via primaries.  The top standing\nmembers end up with cabinet posts.  This is purely a political power\nissue.  Check the ranking of Arab labor party members, as opposed\nto Jewsih members and let me know which posts are held by Jews that\nranked lower in the party than their Arab fellow electees.\n\nOnce again, if for arguments sake, all the Arab Israelis were to vote\nfor Labor at the next election, you can rest assured that the number of\nArab MKs and cabinet members would increase proportionately to the\npower shift.\n\n\nYou are overlooking the fact that they wield political power\nas individuals based upon a wider collective power base.\n\n\nThe reasoning I see at work is purely political.  As far as security\ngoes I think that some serious gaffs were made by right wing Jews\nas well - e.g. Sharon.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"[Posting the text of H.R. 711 ...]\n[ ... ]\n[ ... ]\n\nNote that this is a \"licensing bill,\" pretending to be a \"training bill.\"","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nJesus did not say that he was the fulfillment of the Law, and, unless\nI'm mistaken, heaven and earth have not yet passed away. Am I mistaken?\nAnd, even assuming that one can just gloss over that portion of the word\nof Jesus, do you really think that \"all is accomplished?\"\n\n\nThen why didn't Jesus say \"Any Jew who annuls ...\" in v. 19? Are you\nsaying that all of Jesus' recorded words mean nothing to Gentiles? Are\nyou really saying that Jesus only spoke for and to the Jews? Jesus\ndidn't mention your name, does that mean he wasn't speaking to you? When\nyou read the words of Jesus, do you think he is speaking to someone\nother than you?\n\n\nYou said above that Jesus was the \"fulfillment\" of the Law. Are you\nsaying that does not mean \"doing away with the Law\"?\n\n\nGen3:15(JPS) I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between\nyour offspring and hers; they shall strike at your head, and you shall\nstrike at their heel.\n\nGen3:15(NRSV) I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your\noffspring and hers; he will strike your head, and you will strike his\nheel.\"\n\nGen3:15(KJV) And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and\nbetween thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt\nbruise his heel.\n\nLooks like your translation has taken a few liberties with the Word?\n\n\nOnly \"helping the Jewish people?\"\n\n\nYou are using your interpretation of Paul as an argument against the\nclear words of Jesus?\n\n\n\"Re-expressed?\" Care to define that a bit better?\n\n\nWhat? Are heaven and earth gone away? Where did they go? Is all\naccomplished, for example Revelations? Explain please.\n\n\nAgain, your interpretation of Paul versus the clear word of Jesus. Do\nyou see any problems here? When did heaven and earth go away? When was\nall accomplished?","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I heard a story on the local sports news broadcast in Edmonton.\nOiler owner Peter Pocklington will be holding a press conference\nnext week. While the exact details are not known, it is believed\nto concern the Oiler's future.\n\nRumour has it that Pocklington signed a tentative lease arrangement\nwith Copps Collesium in Hamilton. During the press conference,\nPocklington may announce the deal. It is quite possible that\nthe deal may simply be a way to force Edmonton Northlands to\nrenegotiate the Oiler lease on the stadium.\n\nNorthlands has offered to buy the Oilers for $65 million earlier,\nbut the offer was rejected immediately by Pocklington.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"ha! if i'm not on my bike, it's because its _broken_ and i'm _walkin_. (\nreally the way it should be)\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----\n\n\n\nDavid, given the proposition of the first first paragraph, the conclusion of\nthe second *should* read:\n\n           ^^^^^^^\n\nWhich completely overturns your argument.  To not see this requires an\nunbelievable degree of stupidity or naivete on your part.  Perhaps it's time\nfor you to own up and say which spook agency you work for...\n\n- --Paul\n\n\n-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----\nVersion: 2.2","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\nthis is off the subject but, \n\nDon't the numbers in the car names above refair to the engine size in \nliters? i.e. ls400 = 4.0litre engine, sc300 = 3.0 liter \"Sport Coupe\".. \nand Q45 = 4.5liter.. (similar, kinda, to BMW and MB nameing deal). ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
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{"text":"\nDon't forget Chemical Abstracts Service (which is pretty much the international\nclearinghouse for all chemical information), whose former director (Ronald\nWigington) and head of R&D (Nick Farmer) were openly former NSA employees.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Flash over is a frequent occurrence with indoor fires.  A fire will\nstart small and in one location and heat the air.  The temperature in\nthe room builds up and then everything inflammable in the room catches\nfire at once.\n \nThis may have occurred in the BD compound, I have heard reports that\nthe windows were covered which would permit a fire to start unnoticed\nby those outside the compound.  When the fire got big enough, and\nbroke through the walls, it appeared to be started in two places but\nwas really one big fire.\n \nBecause of the large quantities of tear gas inserted into the building\nit is possible that many of the women and children were in a room free\nof tear gas they would try to seal the door to keep out the tear gas.\nWhen they learned that a fire had broken out it was too late for them\nto escape.  They were trapped by the flames in their safe room.\n \nI find it hard to believe that the FBI was not recording the final\nassault.  I think that they would have wanted to have tapes to show\ntheir agents of the the FBI overcoming the \"forces of evil\", aka\nthe Branch Davidians.  The tapes would also allow the FBI to prove\nthat they were not using excessive force.\n \n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Since Image Writer LQ was discontinued, there is no Apple Talk\n  printer with 11\"*15\" continous paper printer.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I read a mesg. somewhere on GENIE about Intel coming out with a \ngraphics standard called PCI, which would supplant VESA standards.  Is\nthis a rumor, or is there some substance to it. If any of y'all have\nheard of this \"standard\" please e-mail me on how I might obtain more info","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Hi ppl,\n\nI am running XFree386 under Linux SLS1.0 and am trying to get the german\nkeyboard working. I have already recompiled my kernel and the german\nkeyboard in the textmode works just fine.\nI have found out, that there is a preconfigured german keymap for X\ncalled Xmodmap.gr in \/usr\/lib\/X11, so I ran xmodmap \/usr\/lib\/X11\/Xmodmap.gr.\nMy first impression was very good, I was able to get Z and Y straight :)\nThere's still a little problem I can't solve however:\nI cannot get at the backslash, bar, brackets and curly brackets.\nThe ALT-GR key doesn't seem to work.\nI tried xev to find out whether it produces an event at all and it does.\nLooking up its keycode (113) in the Xmodmap I found the entry \"Mode_switch\"\nwhich doesn't ring any bell. The entries for the keys I cannot use seem\nto be correct. Example: keycode XX = ssharp questn backslash\nThe first 2 entries I can even get at. The first one is the unmodified\nkey and the second is the key with shift, but what is the 3rd??\nMy guess is that it should be the key with ALT-GR but it isn't.\nIf anybody has run into similar problems and knows how to solve them,\nhelp would be appreciated.\n\nCU","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nUmm, weren't you the one objecting to someone who is a \"licensed\nphysician\" being called a quack?  Or is it just that being a licensed\nphysician is a good defense against charges of quackery when the\nphysician agrees with your system of beliefs?\n\n\nActually, I almost never use the term quack.  When I discuss\n\"systemic yeast syndrome\", however, I always point out that\nmainstream medicine views this as a quack diagnosis (and I agree\nwith that characterization).\n\n\nReally?  I bet virtually everyone reading these posts understands what\nSteve Dyer, Gordon Banks, and I am implying when we have talked about\nsystemic yeast syndrome as a quack diagnosis.  Would you prefer the\nword \"charlatan\"?  (I don't happen to think that all quacks are\ncharlatans since I suspect that some believe in the \"diseases\" they\nare diagnosing.)\n\n\nWhy?  Is there some reason why you feel that it shouldn't be pointed out\nin SCI.med that there is no convincing empirical evidence to support the \nexistence of systemic yeast syndrome?","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nNobody ever produced the meagerest evidence for this.  It does not\nappear in several long published accounts by Irgun participants.\nEven some Irgun propagandists do not make this claim.\n\n\nSeveral members of the Irgun attacking party, including the leader,\ndeposited personal declarations in the Irgun archives (Jabotinsky\nInstitute, Tel-Aviv) which state that the Lehi proposed to \"liquidate\nthe village after the conquest\".  It seems the Begin overruled\nthis plan, however the willingness of many of the attackers to\nseriously consider this possibility serves as instructive\ncharacter evidence.\n\n\nThe Haganah tried to get the Irgun to attack a village with\nreal military significance, but it was considered too hard.  \nThe soft target of Deir Yassin was chosen instead.\n\n\nThere was intention (probably originating with Begin) to give such\na warning but the loudspeaker truck got stuck in a ditch before\nreaching the village.  Everyone knows that.\n\n\nBy all rational standards, you should be posting from b-cpu.\n\n\nA lie repeated is still a lie.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nWhen you buy insurance where you live, it is based on the local rates.\nTourists coming from, say, Utah will find that there is a difference\nin what their insurance will cover FOB Provo and what they get stuck\nwith at Lenox Hill or Mount Sinai if they fall ill in the Big Apple.\n\n\nIt would depend on where you live, downtown Toronto or Mile 101,\nBritish Columbia (just like Cheyenne, WY vs. Boston, MA).  Again,\ngeography rears its ugly head.\n\nSince our health care providers are private, they depend on an\nadequate market size in order to sustain enough business.  Since\nour health care professionals have equivalent take-home pay to \ntheir American cousins, it's not that they're being paid too\nlittle to provide services.\n\n\nI have only hear Americans say that it's illegal ... but I could be\nwrong, just have never heard it from a Canadian source.  our private\ninsurance has recently balked in Quebec when the Liberals proposed\nprivatizing some aspects of routine care ... also, our insurance was\nput in place when no NDP (Labour) governments were in power in any\nprovince to derail the effort 'cos they wanted real socialized\nmedicine.\n\n\nNo, it is optional ... as it is optional for doctors to accept it.\nThere are isolated religeous communities in particular that ask for\nexemptions (and one e-mail from a Christian Scientist in Edmonton\nverified for me that it is indeed negative option).  I guess that you\ncan argue that there is a right to having a particular insurance, but\nso far I've not come across that up north ... and I take pains to keep\ntabs with news from home.\n\n\nBelieve me, they probably had orgasms when they figured that out.  And\naccording to my sister the yuppie, they pat themselves on the back to\nthe point of ungraciousness at Chamber of Commerce luncheons.\n\n\nI actually have doubts that any new ones have emerged since WW I ...\nno, scratch that ... there are a few in Western Canada, and *quite* \na few in Quebec as part of the post-1980 Quebec Miracle (out with the\nnationalism, in with the French capitalism).  La Groupe des Cooper-\nantes built a new tower by the Eaton('s) store at Les Terraces, and if\nyou were able to catch Urban Angel on CBS's Crimetime you'd see it as\nthe well-lit one with double-turrets at the top.  As for Ontario,\nwhich still dominates and anchors business up north ...\n\nCanada is a very old-money kind of place, and the 1989 Free Trade\nAgreement saw a lot of odd alliances: labour unions and establishment\nold money who wanted to preserve their traditional monopolies on one\nside, and entrepreneurs and internationally oriented businesses and\nprofessionals on the other.  The final Trudeau administration and\nthe first Mulroney government had a high percentage of nouveaux\nriches who knew what it was like to make your own money, and that\nmotivated the McDonald Commission under Trudeau which set up Brian's\ninitiative (Macaroni was against free trade 'til he did a head count\nof his caucus after the 1984 election).\n\n\nWell, you have to realize that in our society that's like saying\nthat \"it's not really national defence\" because you can't hire\nyour own Rambo squad instead or even opting out as a pacifist.\n(BTW, there are always pacifists in the news arguing about their\nportion of taxes, but never people arguing over health insurance\nalternatives ... and we're talking about a press that is hostile\nto whomever is in government, regardless of party; one of their\nfew redeeming characteristics, it seems (-;).\n\n\nThe only way to hit at the Canadian system is transient periods of\nhigh demand, which is more a function of the doctors monopoly's tight\nfist on the licencing.  An obvious difference is that in such a\ntransient period, the rationing is of the nature of a mob battling\nover Cabbage Patch Dolls^TM as we've seen recently as opposed by\nrationing by ability to pay ... but the former is a *transient*\nsituation and if a large body of insured patients were to deluge the\nCalifornia health infrastructure, the same would result --- rationing\namong the insured population.  With smaller markets, there is much\nless flexibility when dealing with our insured population than\nCalifornia (which by the way, has 1\/3rd more people than Canada in a\nMUCH more dense area).  So he is correct in that the resources are\nfixed (for a particular time window, or as a function of the doctors\nmonopoly licencing according to the market steady state) in either\ncase.  As for being \"refused treatment\" the government of the day\nwould be shredded to tatters if something like that were to happen;\nCanadians can be geographically bad, too, not realizing that their\nhealth care is private while only their insurance isn't ... too many\npeople have bought into socialist trype that we have socialized\nmedicine.\n\n\nRight, as I've pointed out above ...\n\n\nEither way, the transient situations are hard to deal with since the\nchanges in the private medical care resource take place at a slower\nrate than the ability of people to fall sick esp. in the light of\ndisasters (e.g., Chernobyl) or bad luck (a sudden wave of heart\ndisease). A doctor needs 4-6 years of training, plus internship \nand specialty training.\n\n\nThat's why I've argued for deductible and copayments rather than\neducation, which is what most Canadian fiscal conservatives are\narguing for (the leftists?  \"Ah, just let 'em spend!\" --- yeah,\nright!).  Also, note that only a few provinces cover prescriptions\nunder some high dollar threshold ... in most, it's your private\ninsurance that covers it just like in the U.S.  Still, it all\nadds up in the OECD measures.\n\n\nWe get the Sabres' feed as a replacement game on ESPN tonight (the\nDevils' local metro NY coverage supplants the main ESPN game).\n\n\nYeah, it's a sad story and Saskatchewan Tory leader Grant Devine\nhas been on a nonstop PR campaign to save his sorry butt.  The\nSask NDP have taken a neo-conservative turn like Hawke, Gonzalez\nand Mitterand did.\n\n\nThe medical IRA would have limited use, as you'd need a lower\ncatastrophic threshold else there'd still be a drain on the public\npurse if someone exhausts their IRA.  Also, Singapore has a much\nmore autocratic mentality which has seaped down into its masses\n(if Singaporeans that I've met are any indication ... I don't\nmean any disprespect here) where they'd let you just die.\n\n\nThat's true ... the question is how much leeway is there between\nthe U.S. approach and the second-most capitalist approaches of\nCanada, France and Germany.\n\n\nYes, many ... and pretty close to a lot of smaller towns or not too\nfar from a bigger town.  Just take a look at a detailed atlas ...\nor better, take a flight from Pittsburgh or Rochester to Toronto.\nMy first time across Lake Ontario to NYC, I was amazed by the\nincrease in density ... and the Toronto region is the densest \nin all of Canada.\n\n\nIt's about time!  I've ragged on my own doctor friends as to why they\ndon't invest in their own private practices ... in the end, it's their\nmoney.  But they choose to spend it on America's Cup pipedreams, and\nthat's none of my business.  As for \"provincially owned\" ... for sure\nit's against the law in Canada for governments to be directly involved\nin the provision of health care except in the military or native reser-\nvations.  What that term actually means is that the facility gets by\non public grants to meet shortfall from *lack of use* ... no kidding.\nMedical practice itself is much more conservative up north.  My own\nbest friend did two clerkships at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN,\nand is no stranger to high tech medicine ... but his boat comes first.\n\n\nNo, it's probably socialist whiners who are offended that we have\nprivate practices ... and always have.  They can all take cash\nanyways ... so why not have a particular facility?  The Canadian\nbig government mentality often imagines government where it does\nnot even exist ...\n\nSince the French and Germans have become more entrepreneurial and less\nlaidback without sacrificing their culture and values, then Canadians\ncan do the same.  As I've pointed out above, the law states that it is\nillegal for the *government* to provide any health services except for\nthe military and natives.\n\nLook, nobody stopped the clinic when they planned on the MRI ...\nnobody stopped them when they bought it.  Nobody seems to be stopping\nthem from using it, either.  Much ado about nothing.  Thank goodness\nthat hockey playoffs have started ...\n\n\nI'm certain there is exaggeration somewhere, because the GAO study\nof Canada cited often on USENET did not find access to MRI to be a\nproblem.  I'll bet the doctor is relying on people having listened \nto American trash talk on cable so that he can puff his chest a bit.\nThere are already a few treatment regimens for knee injuries without\nrelying on MRI ... unfortunately, I've had a few. )-;  And I'm not\na banker. (-;\n\ngld","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I used to have a lot of line noise problems with my 1200 baud modem.\nWhat was sudgested to me was to put a toriod transformer on the line.\nThis is easily done by getting a large toroid core from your local\nelectronics shop, a toroid core is a ceramic\/metal \"donut\", and wind the\ntelephone line in through the center of the core and out around the\nouTside five or six times. This is a easy and cheap fix that does not\nhave the hassels of having to use sofware to fix a hardware problem.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
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{"text":"The Blessed Virgin Mary appeared to Catherine Laboure, a nun of the\nsisters of Charity on July 18, 1830 at Rue du Bac, Paris.\n\nSister Catherine was awakened late that night by a small boy, age 5\nor 6, who was literally glowing with some sort of interior light. \nThe child led her to the sanctuary of the chapel where he promised\nthe Virgin Mary was to be found awaiting her. Our Lady appeared to\nher and instructed her for two hours or more on matters pertaining\nto her life and to the future of France and the world.\n\nOn November 27 Our Lady appeared again to Catherine. She instructed\nher to have a medal struck. She told her that those who wore this \nmedal would enjoy special protection from the Mother of God and would\nreceive great graces. In less than a year there were three more\napparitions. In June of 1831 the medals were a reality. Many reports\nwere received by those who wore it. Within two years of its issuing\nthe medal was known as the \"Miraculous Medal\". Catherine died in 1876.\nHer body to this day is remarkably preserved (incorrupt). She was\ncanonized on July 27, 1947. Her body lies in the chapel at the\nmotherhouse on the Rue du Bac where she had her first meeting with\nOur Lady.\n\nThe apparition on November 27 1830 was of average height and clothed\nin white with a veil that flowed over the head and fell to the floor.\nAbove the altar, a pyramid painted to represent God's all knowing\nwisdom looked down on them. Our Lady's feet rested on a white globe\nand there was also a green serpent with yellow spots that she was\nstepping on. In her hands was a golden ball that represented the world.\nGreat streams of light issued from her hands and she also showed \nCatherine an image of two hearts, the Sacred Heart wrapped in\npiercing thorns and her own heart punctured by a sword. The sword\nrepresented her suffering with Jesus.\n\nThe apparitions announced the onset of the great battle and forewarned\nthat a dark era lay in the immediate future. It was the apparition \nleading up to the recent ones. Our Lady began to dispense secrets.\nAnd with the globe she revealed herself in worldwide dispute\nwith the forces of the dark. She told Catherine \"The times are\nevil. Misfortunes will fall upon France. The throne will be\noverturned. The entire world will be overcome by evils of all\nkinds.\"\n\nRefer to books on St. Catherine for more of Our Lady's messages.\nA copy of the medal is also available in Catholic bookstores.\n\nI will post other Marian events every few days or so including\nthe ones happening today which are still under investigation.\nThese postings serve only to introduce you to these events.\nPlease look more into them and understand the reason for \nthe increasing number and urgency of these apparitions.\n\n-- ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Hello again, another question.  :)\n\nI just got my hands on 2 quarts of ReadLine Gear Oil (at $7 a quart)\nnow I need to know how to throw it into my car.\n\nI own an 89 NIssan Maxima Se, any Ideas?\nCan I mix the Oil in there with this stuff, or should I drain first, then\n\tonly use this stuff.\nIf you know where (if there is one) the drain plug on the manual transmission\n\ton the Maxima is, I would really appreciate any comments.\nAlso have any of you Maxima owners, thied this stuff in your cars?","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"From the June newsletter of the Latin Liturgy Association:\n\nThere is a new e-mail discussion group: LATIN-L, a forum for people\ninterested in classical Latin, medieval Latin, Neo-Latin; the languages of\nchoice are Latin (of course) and whatever vulgar languages you feel\ncomfortable using.  Please be prepared to translate on request.  The field\nis open -- name your topic!  In order to subscribe, BITNET users should\nsend an interactive message of the form \"TELL LISTSERV@PSUVM SUB LATIN-L\n[your name]\".  INTERNET users should send a message (without a subject\nline) to the address LISTSERV@PSUVM.PSU.EDU.  The message should read \"SUB\nLATIN-L [your name]\".  Once subscribed, one may participate by sending\nmessages to LATIN-L@PSUVM or LATIN-L@PSUVM.PSU.EDU.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nFirst, you seem to assume all atheists think alike.  An atheist does not\nbelieve in the existence of a god.  Our opinions on issues such as \ncapital punishment and abortion, however, vary greatly.  \n\nIf you were attacking the views of a particular atheist (Benedikt, I \npresume), then please present your argument as such and do not lump us\nall together.\n\nAs for the issues, let's start with abortion.  Personally, I do not support\nabortion as a means of population control or contraception-after-the-fact.\nHowever, I support the right of any woman to have an abortion, regardless\nof what my personal views may be, because it would be arrogant of me to tell\nany individual what he\/she may or may not do to his\/her body, and the domain\nof legislators should not extend into the uterus.  That's my opinion, and I\nam sure many atheists and theists would disagree with me.\n\nI do not defend homosexuality as a means of population control, but I \ncertainly defend it as an end to itself.  I think most homosexuals would\nbe angered to hear of anyone characterizing their personal relationship as\nnothing more than a conscious effort to keep population levels down.  \n\nAs for atheists believing all values are biological, I have no idea what\nyou're talking about.\n\nFinally, there are the issues of war and capital punishment.  An atheist\ncan object to either one just as easily as a theist might.  You seem to\nbe hung up on some supposed conspiratorial link between atheism and \npopulation control.  Could this be the \"atheist cause\" you were referring \nto a few posts back?\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\nLotus Organizer!!!  Quick, cheap, pretty!  And has all of those features \nyou want ...\n\n\nYou might look at one of the shell alternatives provided by third\nparties.  Norton Desktop for Windows, for instance.\n\nPersonally, I *like* File Manager, which comes with Windows.  It's much\nfaster than NDW's, and the File Manager that's part of Windows for\nWorkgroups even has a decent button bar.\n\n\nThat first you can do with File Manager, but the others you'll need\nto look at NDW or PC Tools for Windows, etc.\n\n\nI haven't yet seen a decent freeware or even shareware shell.  But\nit may be just me.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"You should have been following the discussion of GRBs\ngoing on in sci.astro. It's been discussed in some detail,\nwith references even.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"We are searching for one or two instructors for tutorials on advanced\nWindows programming under NT.  If anyone has attended a course that was\nvery good, we would really appreciate recommendations.\n\nPlease email me directly at paller@fedunix.org; I don't get to see these\nnewsgroups often enough.\n\nThanks in advance for any help.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Those of us who questioned the mass suicide line may still have \nwondered, \"If it wasn't suicide, why did so few get out?\"  The \nanswer is now available - the gas the government had been pouring\nin on them is so disabling that its use in wartime is banned by the\nchemical weapons treaty.\n\nThe U.S. had agreed not to use this gas against enemy soldiers in\nwartime, but used it in peacetime against civilians, including \nnnocent children.\n\nFor confirmation see Friday's CLINTON:AM press briefing by George\nStephanopoulous, posted in alt.news-media and other locations.\n(When questioned about it, his reply was that the treaty did\nnot forbid its internal use by law enforcement agencies.\n  \n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nThis posting from Stephen F. Austin State University's ANONYMOUS account.\n\nPlease report abuses to newsmgr@ccsvax.sfasu.edu","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Eve'.\n\nI am looking to buy 4 new p195-50r15 tires.. (R or HR). I don't\nhave much to spend, but I would like a tire that will LAST. Does\nanyone have any experience with the following brands?\n\n\tRiken\n\tFalken\t\n\tBFG\t\n\tGeneral\t\n\nThere are others, but these I can find here for under $70.. Like\nI said, I am mostly interested in threadwear then speed, since I\nhardly get to drive them over 80 or 90 mph. Also, is it true that\n\"noone will give you warranty on such tires\", according to\na tire dealer?\n\nFinally, do HR tires last longer than R tires (threadwear again),\nor is that strictly a speed factor?\n\nThanks for any replies..\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\n(stuff deleted)\n\nMy 66 DX2 is about a week old and is custom built by me and for me.\nI am using the PC Power and Cooling CPU Cooler.  This one has\nprecision ball bearings in the motor.  It has a pretty substantial\nheat sink; so if it happened to fail it would still probably\ndissipate more heat than the bare chip.\n\nIt attaches with peel off adhesive.  This is a full size AT case, so\nthe fan has gravity in its favor.  I would be a little nervous about\nfinding the fan at the bottom of a tower case if it happened to let\ngo.\n\nAll of the CPU fans that I know of are powered from a drive cable.\nThere are other \"board\" type fans which are ISA boards with a couple\nof fans mounted on them.  They are powered by the slot.  I  don't\nknow how effective they are; maybe someone else could comment.\n\nThe cpu is cool enough to touch with the PCP&C unit.\n\nPC-Connection at 800-243-8088 has them for 29.95 + 5.00 next day\ndelivery.  The Y cord is 7.00 if you don't have a spare lead off the\npower supply.  PCP&C make the best power supplies available IMHO.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nAaron> Colossians 2:11-12 \"In him you were also circumcised, in the\nAaron> putting off of the sinful nature, not with a circumcision done\nAaron> by Christ, having been buried with him in baptism and raised\nAaron> with him through your faith in the power of God, who raised him\nAaron> from the dead.\"\n\nAaron> In baptism, we are raised to a new life in Christ (Romans 6:4)\nAaron> through a personal faith in the power of God.  Our parent's\nAaron> faith cannot do this.  Do infants have faith?  Let's look at\nAaron> what the Bible has to say about it.\n\nYes, let do.  Try: \n\n\"And if anyone causes one of these little ones *who believes in me*\nto sin, it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea\nwith a large millstone tied around his neck.\"  Mark 9:42\n\n\"Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them,\nfor the kingdom of God belongs to such as these.  I tell you\nthe truth, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God\nlike a little child will never enter it.\"\n\nThe Colossians passage does not make faith a requirement\nfor baptism.  It merely says that in baptism we are born again,\nregenerated, and resurrected through faith.  In the case\nof an infant I would say that baptism works faith in the\nheart of the infant--through the power of the word.\n\nThe Colossians passage does make baptism a spiritual circumcision.\nCircumcision was the means by which a male infant was made\na part of God's covenant with Israel.  It was commanded to be\nperformed on the eighth day.  The early church understood this,\nand even debated whether baptism had to be performed on the\neighth day, or if it could in fact be done earlier.\n\nAaron> Romans 10:16-17 \"But not all the Israelites accepted the good\nAaron> news.  For Isaiah says, 'Lord, who has believed our message?'\nAaron> Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the\nAaron> message is heard through the word of Christ.\"\n\nAaron> So then we receive God's gift of faith to us as we hear the\nAaron> message of the gospel.  \n\nAnd the gospel is surely preached at any infant's (or adult's)\nbaptism.  Indeed, in a very real sense, the sacraments are\nthe Gospel made tangible.\n\nAaron> Faith is a possible response to hearing\nAaron> God's word preached.  Kids are not yet spiritually,\nAaron> intellectually, or emotionally mature enough to respond to\nAaron> God's word.  \n\nHow do you know they are not yet mature enough to have faith?\nDo you know this on the basis of God's Word, or from your own\nreason?\n\nFaith is also described as a gift from God, Ephesians 2:8,9. \nHe gives faith to infants just as he gives it to adults, through\nthe power of the gospel, Romans 1:6.\n\nAaron> If you read all of Ezekiel 18, you will see that God doesn't\nAaron> hold us guilty for anyone else's sins.  So we can have no\nAaron> original guilt from Adam.\n\nHere you show that you just don't understand original sin--\nyou are arguing against a straw man.\nMaybe you've been talking to Catholics too much.  I don't\nknow.  But original sin does not consist of God's imputation\nof Adam's guilt to us.  It consists of our inheritance of\nAdam's sinful nature.  It is actual sin.  See for example,\nthe Augsburg Confession, Article II, and the Apology of the\nAugsburg Confession, Article II, and, for extra credit,\nJohn Knox's `The Scots confession', Article III.\n\nAaron> Now then that we have a little more background as to why\nAaron> original sin is not Biblical, let's look at some of the\nAaron> scriptures used to support it.\n\nAaron> Romans 5:12 \"Therefore, just as sin entered the world through\nAaron> one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to\nAaron> all men, because all sinned--\"\n\n\nAsk yourself this question.  \"Do infants ever die?\"  Then ask\nyourself, \"If infant baptism is not valid, then where was the\nChristian Church during all the centuries when almost all \nof the baptisms were performed on infants?  Were Luther, Melancthon,\nCalvin, Zwingli, Hus, Knox, Andrae, and Chemnitz Christians?\n\n\nAaron> Psalm 51:5 \"Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time\nAaron> my mother conceived me.\"\n\nAaron> This whole Psalm is a wonderful example of how we should humble\nAaron> ourselves before God in repentance for sinning.  David himself\nAaron> was a man after God's own heart and wrote the Psalm after\nAaron> committing adultry with Bathsheba and murdering her husband.\nAaron> All that David is saying here is that he can't remember a time\nAaron> when he wasn't sinful.  He is humbling himself before God by\nAaron> confessing his sinfulness.  His saying that he was sinful at\nAaron> birth is a hyperbole.  The Bible, being inspired by God, isn't\nAaron> limited to a literal interpetation, but also uses figures of\nAaron> speech as did Jesus (John 16:25).  For another example of\nAaron> hyperbole, see Luke 14:26.\n\nWho are you to say what is literal and what is not?  Is a literal\ninterpretation manifestly absurd in Psalm 51 by reason of direct\ncontradiction with a clear passage from the Word of God?\n\nYou might also compare Genesis 8:21, \"The LORD smelled the\npleasing aroma and said in his heart, `Never again will I curse\nthe ground because of man, even though every inclination of\nhis heart is evil from childhood....\"\n\nAaron> We see\nAaron> that he did grow and become wiser in Luke 2:40 and 2:52.  The\nAaron> implication is that Jesus did wrong things as a child before he\nAaron> knew to choose right over wrong.\n\nYou are a long way from proving this (rather monstrous) assertion.\nAll you can say is that Jesus grew in wisdom and in stature.  A\nconclusion that he did wrong as a child is based on an extrapolation\nof reason, not on a direct revelation in Scripture.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Organization: Compact Solutions, Canberra ACT Australia\n\nHas anybody every come across a problem whereby a hard disk locks up (ie. crashes the system) when attempting to load disk caching?\n\nI think the logic board may have been buggered, but the drive works PERFECTLY without a disk cache.\n\nI tried HyperDisk and various versions of SmartDRIVE, all to no avail.\n\nAny advice would be MUCH appreciated .. I need a cached drive, but I need the extra space of my second drive just as much! :-)\n\nThanks.\n\nCheers, Ben\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nBen J. Elliston\nBachelor of Engineering (Computer Engineering)                     \\\\\\\/\/\nUniversity of Canberra                                             (@ @)\n                                                             ___ooO_( )_Ooo__\nEmail:      compsol@fir.canberra.edu.au                              V\nAlso:       ellib@cbr.cpsg.com.au\nUUCP:       ..!uunet!munnari!sserve.adfa.oz.au!compsol!root\nFidoNet:    3:620\/262\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nRust Staub is NOT Jewish.\nIn fact, I think his father was a minister.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\nYou're just beginning to scratch the surface.  Do you know how much\nmilitary equipment costs?  When was the last time you tried to buy a\nmil-spec hammer, coffee-pot or toilet seat?  \n\nPaying Israel to do the dirty work on it's own without putting\nAmerican soldiers's lives on the line is much, much, much cheaper than\nUncle Sam's arrangements with much of the rest of the world.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\n[Deleted for space; basically complaints that xv is an 8 bit program and that\nmaking several modifications to the RGB sliders is slow because of screen updates.]\n\nIn reverse order:\n\n1) Try clicking in the auto-apply box to switch it off. Then make your mods. Then\nclick on apply. There is no problem as stated; it has already been solved if you\nlook carefully.\n\n2) Yes XV is an 8 bit program. This is not a bug. You can edit individual pallette\nentries or do global colour changes; crop, scale etc. Clearly the program must\nsave out the *altered* image else all your work would be thrown away. So yes it\nsaves out 8 bit images - of course!\n\nXV can import 24 bit images and quantises them down to 8 bits. This is a handy\nfacility, not a bug.\n\nHow would you suggest doing colour editing on a 24 bit file? How would you group\n'related' colours to edit them together? Only global changes could be done\nunless the software were very different and much more complicated.\n\nIf you want to do colour editing on a 24 bit image, you need much more powerfull\nsoftware - which is readily available commercially.\n\nAnd lastly, JPEG is a compression algorithm. It can be applied to any image of\narbitrary bit depth. Again, this is not a bug. It is a way of saving disk space\n;-)\n\nLater,\n\n--\nChris Lilley\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTechnical Author, ITTI Computer Graphics and Visualisation Training Project\nComputer Graphics Unit, Manchester Computing Centre, Oxford Road, \nManchester, UK.  M13 9PL                        Internet: C.C.Lilley@mcc.ac.uk \nVoice: +44 (0)61 275 6045  Fax: +44 (0)61 275 6040 Janet: C.C.Lilley@uk.ac.mcc","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nThat's the whole point, David.  As spirits separated from their bodies\nand living in the spirit world, they cannot undergo the ordinance of\nmarriage, just as they cannot be baptized, since there is no physical\nbody to be baptized.  We perform these ordinances as proxies for them,\nin their behalf.  Thanks for asking.  Brooks\n\n***************************************************************************\n* Brooks Haderlie (brh54@cas.org) * \" O be wise; what can I say more?\"\n* * Columbus, OH by way of Ucon, ID * - Jacob 6:12 * *","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I'm looking for code that will generate a minimum-volume oriented\nbounding box for an arbitrary polyhedron.  Anyone know of such code?\n\n       Why?  I'm converting objects from\none modelling system into another, and the destination system is object\noriented.  So I want to represent each object in its own coordinate system,\nthat of its bounding box, with the objects then translated and rotated\nappropriately, this being the representation used in the destination\nsystem.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n  No, the Yanks are. We are are midway through our insipid invasion of \nFlorida and they aren't even aware of it yet.\n\n__\n   Jorg Klinger            |       GSXR1100        | If you only new who\n   Arch. & Eng. Services   |\"Lost Horizons\"  CR500 | I think I am. \n   UManitoba, Man. Ca.     |\"The Embalmer\"   IT175 |           - anonymous","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I'm looking for information regarding dosages of prozac used in minor\ndepression.  Also any other information regarding the drug is helpful. \nPlease send responses direct.  Thanks!","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nFor your first set of questions (regarding the energy and will of Christ)\nI quote to you the relevant part of the Statement signed by both Eastern\n(Chalcedonian) and Oriental (non-Chalcedonian) Orthodox scholars a few\nyears ago (Both families = both Orthodox churches) :\n\n1. Both  families  agreed in  condemning  the Eutychian heresy. Both  families\nconfess that the Logos, the Second Person  of the Holy  Trinity, only begotten\nof the Father before the ages  and consubstantial with  Him, was incarnate and\nwas born from the Virgin Mary Theotokos; fully consubstantial with us, perfect\nman with soul, body and mind  ($  \\nu o  \\upsilon \\zeta $); He  was crucified,\ndied, was  buried and rose  from the dead on  the third day, ascended   to the\nHeavenly Father, where He sits on the right hand of the Father as  Lord of all\ncreation. At  Pentecost, by the coming of  the  Holy Spirit He  manifested the\nChurch as His Body. We look forward to His coming again in the fullness of His\nglory, according to the Scriptures.\n\n2. Both  families condemn the  Nestorian heresy and the crypto-Nestorianism of\nTheodoret of  Cyrus. They agree that it  is not sufficient merely  to say that\nChrist is consubstantial both with His Father  and with us, by  nature God and\nby nature man; it is necessary to affirm also that the Logos, Who is by nature\nGod,  became by  nature   man, by His  incarnation  in the fullness  of  time.\n\n3. Both families agree  that the Hypostasis of the  Logos became  composite by\nuniting to His divine uncreated nature with its natural will and energy, which\nHe has  in common with  the Father and  the Holy Spirit, created human nature,\nwhich He assumed  at the Incarnation  and made  His own, with its natural will\nand energy.\n\n4. Both families agree  that the natures  with their proper energies and wills\n   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\nare united hypostatically and  naturally   without confusion, without  change,\n^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\nwithout  division and without separation,  and that they are distinguished  in\n^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\nthought alone.\n^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\n5. Both families agree that He who wills and acts is always the one Hypostasis\nof the Logos Incarnate.\n\n[...]\n\nI guess that adresses your question adequately.\n\nAs for your second set of questions, I am afraid they are irrelevant to the\ndiscussion (at least from my point of view) of Monophysitism. I do not see\nhow they relate to the topic we are discussing (other than to start an\nendless Orthodox-RC debate which I do not plan to engage into). As a brief\nanswer to your questions, the position of the Coptic Orthodox Church \nregarding the Roman pontiff, his jurisdiction, his infalability, etc.\nis exactly the same as all the other Orthodox churches.\n\nPeace,\n\nNabil","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\n\nJoachim\n\nI have restrained from involvement in flame wars.  These comments however make\nme long for the days when I was a flame warrior.  I would hope that you would\nrefrain from such idiotic slander.   \n\n\nWinslow (formerly of Madison)\n\nP.S.  I might have to drop the formerly and become the \"old\"  Winslow of Madison.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"[ some real stupid remarks ]\n ...\n ...\n  [ lots of serious dribble for no real reason ]\n ...\n\nHey, I don't really care, but when someone sends me\nemail telling me to fuck off, I get rather pissed.  If he posted\nto the net, I could really care less, but sending mail\nis just childish.  Mr. Infant(e) is just that, an infant.  Give \nhim a few more years to grow up and maybe he'll learn some \nnetwork etiquette.\n\nIf you can't stand the flames,\nand you don't have the brains,\nStay out of the newsgroup.\n\nKind of catchy n'est pas?\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I have two (2) bus tickets for sale from Bethlehem PA (Lehigh University) to\nPhiladelphia PA.\n\nTickets good until August 24, 1993.\n\n$15 for both OBO.\n\nPlease email at tsai@eniac.seas.upenn.edu or call (215)573-6252.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Hello,\n  I am moving to Houston to go to Rice University for graduate school.\nI will be living on the corner of S. Mian and University Blvd.  I was\nwondering what kind of liability rates to expect.  Here is the relevent\ninfo.\n      Sex: Male\n      Age: 23\n      Status: Single\n      Commute: None, walking.\n      Car: 1982 Ford Crown Victoria, 4 door\n\nIf anyone can check the above info, or is in a similar situation please\nE-MAIL me the rates they find out or pay.  Thanks for your help in advance.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nSigh.  You're absolutely right.  We have no political power whatsoever. \nTherefore, we should be oppressed and ignored and denigrated, right?  I\ncertainly hope you don't have an SO, sir, because if she heard how\ndisparaging you are towards political minorities, and if she had any shred\nof self-respect, she'd be out the door.\n\n\n\nDon't count on it, sweetheart.\n\n   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\nCertainly not.  Most major universities wouldn't touch views that display\nthe brainpower and the perspective of a mayfly with a ten-foot pole.\n\nDrewcifer\n\nP.S.  Incidentally, I think even mayflies could come up with more\nenlightenment than the above bullshit.  Evolve a bit, will you?","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n   I don't think Joe was saying any such thing.  However, your question\non \"asking Jesus to come into your heart\" seems to imply that infants\nare not allowed to have Christ in theirs.  Why must Baptism always be\nviewed by some people as a sort of \"prodigal son\" type of thing; i.e. a\nsudden change of heart, going from not accepting Christ to suddenly\naccepting Christ?  Why can't people start out with Christ from shortly\nafter birth, and build their relationship from there?  After all, does\na man suddenly meet a woman, and then marry her that same day?  From my\nexperiences, I've learned that all relationships must be built,\nincluding one's relationship with God.\n\n   Also Joe is speaking from the standpoint that Baptism is not just a\nritual, but that through it God bestows sacramental grace upon the\nrecipient.  Certainly for those with the mental faculties to know Christ\nit is necessary to believe in Him.  However, the Sacrament itself\nbestows grace on the recipient, and makes a permanent mark of adoption\ninto God's family on the soul.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Archive-name: graphics\/faq\n\nThis message is automatically posted once a week or so in an effort to\ncut down on the repetitive junk in comp.graphics.  It was last changed\non 26Apr93.  If you have answers to other frequently asked questions that\nyou would like included in this posting, please send me mail.  If you\ndon't want to see this posting every week, please add the subject line\nto your kill file.  Thank you.\n\nIf your copy of the FAQ is more than a couple of weeks old, you may want to\nseek out the most recent version.  The latest version of this FAQ is always\navailable on the archive site pit-manager.mit.edu (alias rtfm.mit.edu) as\npub\/usenet\/news.answers\/graphics\/faq.\n\n---\n_john\n\n\tJohn Grieggs grieggs@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov JohnG@portal.com\n---\nLast update: 26Apr93\n\nSorry I haven't posted this for a couple of weeks, but I was called out of\ntown due to a death in the family.  This is reality, folks.\n\nWhat's new?\n\nSIGGRAPH Online Bibliography Project (spencer@cgrg.ohio-state.edu).\n\n\t\tgrieggs@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov\n\n\n\nContents:\n\n    1) General references for graphics questions.\n    2) Drawing three-dimensional objects on a two-dimensional screen.\n    3) Quantizing 24 bit images down to 8 bits.\n    4) Converting color into grayscale.\n    5) Quantizing grayscale to black&white.\n    6) Rotating a raster image by an arbitrary angle.\n    7) Free image manipulation software.\n    8) Format documents for TIFF, IFF, BIFF, NFF, OFF, FITS, etc.\n    9) Converting between vector formats.\n    10) How to get Pixar films.\n    11) How do I draw a circle as a Bezier (or B-spline) curve?\n    12) How to order standards documents.\n    13) How to FTP by email.\n    14) How to tell whether a point is within a planar polygon.\n    15) How to tessellate a sphere.\n    16) Specific references on ray-tracing and global illumination.\n    17) SIGGRAPH information online\n    18) SIGGRAPH Panels Proceedings available\n    19) Graphics mailing lists\n    20) Specific references on file formats\n    21) What about GIF?\n    22) What is morphing?\n    23) How to ray-trace height fields\n    24) How to find the area of a 3D polygon\n    25) How to join ACM\/SIGGRAPH\n    26) Where can I find MRI and CT scan volume data?\n    27) Specific references on spatial data structures including quadtrees\n\tand octrees\n    28) Where can I get a program to plot XY(Z) data or f(x) data?\n    29) Specific references on PEX and PHIGS\n    30) SIGGRAPH Online Bibliography Project\n\n\n1) General references for graphics questions:\n\n    Computer Graphics: Principles and Practice (2nd Ed.), J.D. Foley,\n\tA. van Dam, S.K. Feiner, J.F. Hughes, Addison-Wesley 1990, ISBN\n\t0-201-12110-7\n    Procedural Elements for Computer Graphics, David F. Rogers, McGraw\n\tHill 1985, ISBN 0-07-053534-5\n    Mathematical Elements for Computer Graphics 2nd Ed., David F. Rogers\n\tand J. Alan Adams, McGraw Hill 1990, ISBN 0-07-053530-2\n    Three Dimensional Computer Graphics, Alan Watt, Addison-Wesley 1990, ISBN\n\t0-201-15442-0\n    An Introduction to Ray Tracing, Andrew Glassner (ed.), Academic Press\n\t1989, ISBN 0-12-286160-4\n    Graphics Gems, Andrew Glassner (ed.), Academic Press 1990, ISBN\n\t0-12-286165-5\n    Graphics Gems II, James Arvo (ed.), Academic Press 1991, ISBN\n\t0-12-64480-0\n    Graphics Gems III, David Kirk (ed.), Academic Press 1992, ISBN\n\t0-12-409670-0 (with IBM disk) or 0-12-409671-9 (with Mac disk)\n    Digital Image Warping, George Wolberg, IEEE Computer Society Press\n\tMonograph 1990, ISBN 0-8186-8944-7\n    Digital Image Processing (2nd Ed.), Rafael C. Gonzalez, Paul Wintz,\n\tAddison-Wesley 1987, ISBN 0-201-11026-1\n    A Programmer's Geometry, Adrian Bowyer, John Woodwark, Butterworths 1983,\n\tISBN 0-408-01242-0 Pbk\n\nAn automatic mail handler at Brown University allows users of \"Computer\nGraphics: Principles and Practice,\" by Foley, van Dam, Feiner, and\nHughes, to obtain text errata and information on distribution of the\nsoftware packages described in the book.  Also, users can send the\nauthors feedback, to report text errors and software bugs, make\nsuggestions, and submit exercises.  To receive information describing\nhow you can use the mail handler, simply mail graphtext@cs.brown.edu\nand put the word \"Help\" in the Subject line.  Use the Subject line\n\"Software-Distribution\" to receive information specifically concerning\nthe software packages SRGP and SPHIGS.\n\nErrata for \"An Introduction to Ray Tracing\" is available on\nwuarchive.wustl.edu in graphics\/graphics\/books\/IntroToRT.errata.\n\nErrata for \"Digital Image Warping\" is in the same directory as\n\"Digital-Image-Warping.errata\".\n\nAll C code from the \"Graphics Gems\" series is available via anonymous ftp\nfrom princeton.edu.  Look in the directory pub\/Graphics\/GraphicsGems for\nthe various volumes (Gems, GemsII, GemsIII), and get the README file first.\n\nErrata to _Graphics Gems_ and _Graphics Gems II is available on\nwuarchive.wustl.edu in graphics\/graphics\/books.\n\nA list of computer graphics, computational geometry and image processing\njournals is available from Juhana Kouhia, jk87377@cs.tut.fi.\n\n\n2) Drawing three-dimensional objects on a two-dimensional screen.\n\nThe simple answer is, you divide by the depth.  For a more verbose\nexplanation, see any of the above references, starting with:\n\nThe Foley & Van Dam & Feiner & Hughes \"Computer Graphics\" book is certainly\na good start.  Chapter 6 is \"Viewing in 3D\", then read chapter 15,\n\"Visible-Surface Determination\".  For more information go to chapter 16 for\nshading, chapter 19 for clipping, and branch out from there.\n\n\n3) Quantizing 24 bit images down to 8 bits.\n\nFind a copy of \"Color Image Quantization for Frame Buffer Display\" by\nPaul Heckbert, SIGGRAPH '82 Proceedings, page 297.  There are other\nalgorithms, but this one works well and is fairly simple.  Implementations\nare included in most raster toolkits (see item 7 below).\n\nA variant method is described in \"Graphics Gems\", p. 287-293.  Note that\nthe code from the \"Graphics Gems\" series is all available from an FTP site,\nas described above.\n\nCheck out John Bradley's \"Diversity Algorithm\", which is incorporated into\nthe xv package and described in the back of the manual.\n\nThe ImageMagick package (see section 7 for where it is) contains another\nquantizing algorithm which is presented as \"doing a better job than the\nother algorithms, but slower\".\n\nThere's also an implementation of:\n\nWan, Wong, and Prusinkiewicz, _An Algorithm for Multidimensional Data\nClustering_, Transactions on Mathematical Software, Vol. 14 #2 (June, 1988),\npp. 153-162.\n\navialable as princeton.edu:pub\/Graphics\/colorquant.shar.  This code,\nin modified form, appears in the Utah Raster Toolkit as well.\n\n\n4) Converting color into grayscale.\n\nThe NTSC formula is:\n\n    luminosity = .299 red + .587 green + .114 blue\n\n\n5) Quantizing grayscale to black&white.\n\nThe only reference you need for this stuff is:\n\n    Digital Halftoning, Robert Ulichney, MIT Press 1987, ISBN 0-262-21009-6\n\nBut before you go off and start coding, check out the image manipulation\nsoftware mentioned in item 7 below.  All of the packages mentioned can do\nsome form of gray to b&w conversion.\n\n\n6) Rotating a raster image by an arbitrary angle.\n\nThe obvious but wrong method is to loop over the pixels in the source\nimage, transform each coordinate, and copy the pixel to the destination.\nThis is wrong because it leaves holes in the destination.  Instead,\nloop over the pixels in the destination image, apply the *reverse*\ntransformation to the coordinates, and copy that pixel from the source.\nThis method is quite general, and can be used for any one-to-one\n2-D mapping, not just rotation.  You can add anti-aliasing by doing\nsub-pixel sampling.\n\nHowever, there is a much faster method, with antialising included,\nwhich involves doing three shear operations.  The method was originally\ncreated for the IM Raster Toolkit (see below); an implementation is\nalso present in PBMPLUS.  Reference: \"A Fast Algorithm for Raster\nRotation\", by Alan Paeth (awpaeth@watcgl.waterloo.edu) Graphics\nInterface '86 (Vancouver).  An article on the IM toolkit appears in\nthe same journal.  An updated version of the rotation paper appears\nin \"Graphics Gems\" (see section [1]) under the original title.\n\n\n7) Free image manipulation software.\n\nThere are a number of toolkits for converting from one image format to\nanother, doing simple image manipulations such as size scaling, plus\nthe above-mentioned 24 -> 8, color -> gray, gray -> b&w conversions.\nHere are pointers to some of them:\n\n    xv by John Bradley.  X-based image display, manipulation, and format\n    conversion package.  XV displays many image formats and permits editing\n    of GIF files, among others. The program was updated 5\/92; see the file\n    contrib\/xv-2.21.tar.Z on export.lcs.mit.edu.\n\n    PBMPLUS, by Jef Poskanzer.  Comprehensive format conversion and image\n    manipulation package.  The latest version is always available via\n    anonymous FTP as ftp.ee.lbl.gov:pbmplus*.tar.Z,\n    wuarchive.wustl.edu:graphics\/graphics\/packages\/pbmplus\/pbmplus*.tar.Z,\n    and export.lcs.mit.edu:contrib\/pbmplus*.tar.Z.\n\n    IM Raster Toolkit, by Alan Paeth (awpaeth@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca).\n    Provides a portable and efficient format and related toolkit.  The\n    format is versatile in supporting pixels of arbitrary channels,\n    components, and bit precisions while allowing compression and machine\n    byte-order independence.  The kit contains more than 50 tools with\n    extensive support of image manipulation, digital halftoning and format\n    conversion.  Previously distributed on tape c\/o the University of\n    Waterloo, an FTP version will appear someday.\n\n    Utah RLE Toolkit.  Conversion and manipulation package, similar to\n    PBMPLUS.  Available via FTP as cs.utah.edu:pub\/urt-*,\n    princeton.edu:pub\/Graphics\/urt-*, and freebie.engin.umich.edu:pub\/urt-*.\n\n    Fuzzy Pixmap Manipulation, by Michael Mauldin <mlm@nl.cs.cmu.edu>.\n    Conversion and manipulation package, similar to PBMPLUS.  Version 1.0\n    available via FTP as nl.cs.cmu.edu:\/usr\/mlm\/ftp\/fbm.tar.Z,\n    ftp.uu.net:pub\/fbm.tar.Z, and ucsd.edu:graphics\/fbm.tar.Z.\n\n    Img Software Set, by Paul Raveling <raveling@venera.isi.edu>.  Reads and\n    writes its own image format, displays on an X11 screen, and does some\n    image manipulations.  Version 1.3 is available via FTP as\n    export.lcs.mit.edu:contrib\/img_1.3.tar.Z, and\n    venera.isi.edu:pub\/img_1.3.tar.Z along with a large collection of color\n    images.\n\n    Xim, X Image Manipulator, by Philip R. Thompson.  It does essential\n    interactive image manipulations and uses x11r4 and the OSF\/Motif toolkit\n    for the interface.  It supports images in 1, 8, 24 and 32 bit formats.\n    Reads\/writes and converts to\/from GIF, xwd, xbm, tiff, rle, xim, and\n    other formats.  Writes level 2 postscript.  Other utilities and image\n    application library are included.  Not a paint package.  Available via\n    ftp from gis.mit.edu.\n\n    xloadimage, by Jim Frost <madd@std.com>.  Reads in images in various\n    formats and displays them on an X11 screen.  Available via FTP as\n    export.lcs.mit.edu:contrib\/xloadimage*, and in your nearest comp.sources.x\n    archive.\n\n    xli, by Grame Gill, is an updated xloadimage with numerous improvements\n    in both speed and in the number of formats supported.  Available in the\n    same places as xloadimage (contrib tape, comp.sources.x archives).\n\n    TIFF Software, by Sam Leffler <sam@okeeffe.berkeley.edu>.  Nice\n    portable library for reading and writing TIFF files, plus a few tools\n    for manipulating them and reading other formats.  Available via FTP as\n    ucbvax.berkeley.edu:pub\/tiff\/*.tar.Z or ftp.uu.net:graphics\/tiff.tar.Z\n\n    xtiff, an X11 tool for viewing a TIFF file.  It was written to handle\n    as many different kinds of TIFF files as possible while remaining\n    simple, portable and efficient.  xtiff illustrates some common problems\n    with building pixmaps and using different visual classes.  It is\n    distributed as part of Sam Leffler's libtiff package and it is also\n    available on export.lcs.mit.edu, ftp.uu.net and comp.sources.x.\n    xtiff 2.0 was announced in 4\/91; it includes Xlib and Xt versions.\n\n    ALV, a Sun-specific image toolkit.  Version 2.0.6 posted to\n    comp.sources.sun on 11dec89.  Also available via email to\n    alv-users-request@cs.bris.ac.uk.\n\n    popi, an image manipulation language.  Version 2.1 posted to\n    comp.sources.misc on 12dec89.\n\n    ImageMagick, an X11 package for display and interactive manipulation\n    of images.  Includes tools for image conversion, annotation, compositing,\n    animation, and creating montages.  ImageMagick can read and write many of\n    the more popular image formats.  Available via FTP as\n    export.lcs.mit.edu:contrib\/ImageMagick.tar.Z.\n\n    Khoros, a huge (~100 meg) graphical development environment based on\n    X11R4.  Khoros components include a visual programming language, code\n    generators for extending the visual language and adding new application\n    packages to the system, an interactive user interface editor, an\n    interactive image display package, an extensive library of image and\n    signal processing routines, and 2D\/3D plotting packages.  Available via\n    FTP as pprg.eece.unm.edu:pub\/khoros\/*.\n\n    LaboImage, a SunView-based image processing and analysis package.  It\n    includes more than 200 image manipulation, processing and measurement\n    routines, on-line help, plus tools such as an image editor, a color\n    table editor and several biomedical utilities.  Available via anonymous\n    FTP as ads.com:pub\/VISION-LIST-ARCHIVE\/SHAREWARE\/LaboImage_3.1.tar.Z\n\n    The San Diego Supercomputer Center Image Tools, software tools for\n    reading, writing, and manipulating raster images.  Binaries for some\n    machines available via anonymous FTP in sdsc.edu:sdscpub.\n\n    The Independent JPEG Group has written a package for reading and\n    writing JPEG files.  FTP to ftp.uu.net:graphics\/jpeg\/jpegsrc.v?.tar.Z\n\nDon't forget to set binary mode when you FTP tar files.  For you MILNET\nfolks who still don't have name servers, the IP addresses are:\n\n    ads.com\t\t\t128.229.30.16\n    cs.utah.edu\t\t\t128.110.4.21\n    coral.cs.jcu.edu.au\t\t137.219.17.4\n    export.lcs.mit.edu\t\t18.24.0.12\n    freebie.engin.umich.edu\t141.212.103.21\n    ftp.ee.lbl.gov\t\t128.3.112.20\n    ftp.uu.net\t\t\t137.39.1.9 or 192.48.96.9\n    gis.mit.edu\t\t\t18.80.1.118\n    gondwana.ecr.mu.oz.au\t128.250.70.62\n    karazm.math.uh.edu\t\t129.7.7.6\n    marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au\t134.7.1.1\n    nic.funet.fir\t\t128.214.6.100\n    ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu\t\t141.142.20.50\n    nl.cs.cmu.edu\t\t128.2.222.56\n    pit-manager.mit.edu\t\t18.172.1.27\n    pprg.eece.unm.edu\t\t129.24.24.10\n    princeton.edu\t\t128.112.128.1\n    sdsc.edu\t\t\t132.249.20.22\n    ucbvax.berkeley.edu\t\t128.32.133.1\n    venera.isi.edu\t\t128.9.0.32\n    weedeater.math.yale.edu\t128.36.23.17\n    wuarchive.wustl.edu\t\t128.252.135.4\n    zamenhof.cs.rice.edu\t128.42.1.75\n\nPlease do *not* post or mail messages saying \"I can't FTP, could someone\nmail this to me?\"  There are a number of automated mail servers that will\nsend you things like this in response to a message.  See item 13 below for\ndetails on some.\n\nAlso, the newsgroup alt.graphics.pixutils is specifically for discussion\nof software like this.  You may find useful information there.\n\n\n8) Format documents for TIFF, IFF, BIFF, NFF, OFF, FITS, etc.\n\nYou almost certainly don't need these.  Read the above item 7 on free\nimage manipulation software.  Get one or more of these packages and\nlook through them.  Chances are excellent that the image converter you\nwere going to write is already there.  But if you still want one of the\nformat documents, many such files are available by anonymous ftp from\nzamenhof.cs.rice.edu in directory pub\/graphics.formats.\n\nThese files were collected off the net and are believed to be correct.\nThis archive includes pixel formats, and two- and three-dimensional object\nformats.  The future of this archive is uncertain at the moment, as Mark\nHall <foo@cs.rice.edu> will apparently no longer be maintaining it.\n\nA second graphics file format archive is now being actively maintained\nby Quincey Koziol (koziol@ncsa.uiuc.edu).  The latest version exists at\nftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu in \/misc\/file.formats\/graphics.formats.  Apparently,\nneither of these is complete, you might want to check both.\n\nFITS stands for Flexible Image Transport System. It's a file format most\noften used in astronomy.  Despite the name, it can contain not only images\nbut other things as well.  There is a regular monthly FITS basics and\ninformation posting on sci.astro.fits - read it if you want to know more.\n\n\n\n9) Converting between vector formats.\n\nA lot of people ask about converting from HPGL to PostScript, or MacDraw\nto CGM, or whatever.  It is important to understand that this is a very\ndifferent problem from the image format conversions in item 7.  Converting\none image format to another is a fairly easy problem, since once you\nget past all the file header junk, a pixel is a pixel -- the basic objects\nare the same for all image formats.  This is not so for vector formats.\nThe basic objects -- circles, ellipses, drop-shadowed pattern-filled\nround-cornered rectangles, etc. -- vary from one format to another.\nExcept in extremely restricted cases, it is simply not possible to do\na one-to-one conversion between vector formats.\n\nThere is software for converting to and from CGM files on ftp.psc.edu.  The\ncontributor states that it runs on Unix, MS-Windows, and possibly the Mac.\nA better, more specific blurb would be most welcome.\n\nOn the other hand, it is quite possible to do a close approximation,\nrendering an image from one format using the primitives from another.\nAs far as I know, no one has put together a general toolkit of such\nconverters, but two different HPGL to PostScript converters have been\nposted to comp.sources.misc.  Check the index on your nearest archive\nsite.\n\nA related frequent question is how to convert from some vector format\nto a bitmapped image - from PostScript to Sun raster format, or HPGL to\nX11 bitmap.  For example, some of the commercial PostScript clones for\nPC's allow you to render to a disk file as well as a printer.  Also,\nthe PostScript interpreters in the NeXT box and in Sun's X11\/NeWs can\nbe used to render to a file if you're clever.  But in general, the\nanswer is no.  However, if someone were to put together a vector to\nvector conversion toolkit, adding a vector to raster converter would be\ntrivial.\n\nGNU ghostscript (from the FSF - current version 2.5.2) includes\ndrivers for both ppm and gif format files, thus it can be used as\na PostScript to ppm  or a PostScript to GIF filter.  (It implements\nessentially all of PostScript level 1 and alot of Display PostScript\nand level 2).\n\n\n10) How to get Pixar films.\n\nThe various John Lasseter \/ Pixar computer animated shorts are available\non video tape.  You can order them from Direct Cinema Limited:\n\n    Film                           Individual Price      Institutional Price\n    Luxo, Jr.\t\t\t\t$14.95\t\t\t$50.00\n    Red's Dream\t\t\t\t$19.95\t\t\t$75.00\n    Tin Toy\t\t\t\t$24.95\t\t\t$75.00\n    Knickknack\t\t\t\t$24.95\t\t\t$75.00\n    Luxo, Jr.\/Red's Dream\/Tin Toy\t$39.95\t\t\t$100.00\n\nAll tapes are on 1\/2\" VHS NTSC.  Add $10\/tape for PAL format.  Also\navailable:\n\n    Tin Toy T-shirt\t\t\t$15.00\n    Knickknack 3D T-shirt\t\t$15.00 (includes glasses)\n\nFor individual orders, add $5 S&H for the first tape or shirt, $2 for\neach additional tape or shirt.  For institutional orders, add $5 S&H\nfor the first tape, $3 for each additional tape.  Foreign shipping, add\n$3\/tape or shirt.  Call 800-525-0000 (213-396-4774 international,\n213-396-3233 FAX) to charge to your credit card.  Call first to verify\nprices and availability.  Or, just write to:\n\n    Direct Cinema Limited\n    1749 14th Street\n    Santa Monica, CA 90404-4342\n\nAllan Braunsdorf has this to say:\n\nAt SIGGRAPH they were selling a tape with all four shorts\nfor $25.  That was a sale price.  You can get it for slightly\nmore than that normally.  ($35 maybe.)  I believe it's\navailable from RenderMan Retail (at Pixar's address).\n\n    Pixar\n    1001 West Cutting Blvd.\n    Richmond, CA. 94804\n    (510) 236-4000 \n    (510) 236-0388 (FAX)\n\nYou can obtain a video directly from Pixar which contains \"Luxo, Jr.\", \"Red's\nDream\", \"Tin Toy\" and \"Knicknack\" for $25.00, plus $2.50 for shipping. They\nwill take your order over the phone or via FAX with a major credit card. I \nordered mine just last week and received it several days later. Don't expect \nto be able to rent a copy from your local video store. According to the license\nagreement printed on the back cover of the case, it cannot be rented.\n\n\n11) How do I draw a circle as a Bezier (or B-spline) curve?\n\nThe short answer is, \"You can't.\"  Unless you use a rational spline you\ncan only approximate a circle.  The approximation may look acceptable,\nbut it is sensitive to scale.  Magnify the scale and the error of\napproximation magnifies.  Deviations from circularity that were not\nvisible in the small can become glaring in the large.  If you want to\ndo the job right, consult the article:\n\n  \"A Menagerie of Rational B-Spline Circles\"\n  by Leslie Piegl and Wayne Tiller\n  in IEEE Computer Graphics and Applications, volume 9, number 9,\n  September, 1989, pages 48-56.\n\nFor rough, non-rational approximations, consult the book:\n\n  Computational Geometry for Design and Manufacture\n  by I. D. Faux and M. J. Pratt,\n  Ellis Horwood Publishers, Halsted Press, John Wiley 1980.\n\nFor the best known non-rational approximations, consult the article:\n\n  \"Good Approximation of Circles by Curvature-continuous Bezier Curves\"\n  by Tor Dokken, Morten Daehlen, Tom Lyche, and Knut Morken\n  in Computer Aided Geometric Design, volume 7, numbers 1-4 (combined),\n  June, 1990, pages 33-41 [Elsevier Science Publishers (North-Holland)]\n\n\n12) How to order standards documents.\n\nThe American National Standards Institute sells ANSI standards, and also\nISO (international) standards.  Their sales office is at 1-212-642-4900,\nmailing address is 1430 Broadway, NY NY 10018.  It helps if you have the\ncomplete name and number.\n\nSome useful numbers to know:\n\nCGM (Computer Graphics Metafile) is ISO 8632-4 (1987).  GKS (Graphical\nKernel System) is ANSI X3.124-1985.  PHIGS (Programmer's Hierarchical\nInteractive Graphics System) is ANSI X3.144-1988.  IGES is ASME\/ANSI\nY14.26M-1987.  Language bindings are often separate but related numbers;\nfor example, the GKS FORTRAN binding is X3.124.1-1985.\n\nStandards-in-progress are made available at key milestones to solicit\ncomments from the graphical public (this includes you!).  ANSI can let\nyou know where to order them; most are available from Global Engineering\nat 1-800-854-7179.\n\n\n13) How to FTP by email.\n\nThere are a number of sites that archive the Usenet sources newsgroups\nand make them available via an email query system.  You send a message\nto an automated server saying something like \"send comp.sources.unix\/fbm\",\nand a few hours or days later you get the file in the mail.\n\nIn addition, there is at least one FTP-by-mail server.  Send mail to\nftpmail@decwrl.dec.com saying \"help\" and it will tell you how to use\nit.  Note that this service has at times been turned off due to abuse.\n\n\n14) How to tell whether a point is within a planar polygon.\n\nConsider a ray originating at the point of interest and continuing to\ninfinity.  If it crosses an odd number of polygon edges along the way,\nthe point is within the polygon.  If the ray crosses an even number of\nedges, the point is either outside the polygon, or within an interior\nhole formed from intersecting polygon edges.  This idea is known in\nthe trade as the Jordan curve theorem; see Eric Haines' article in\nGlassner's ray tracing book (above) for more information, including\ntreatment of special cases.\n\nAnother method is to sum the absolute angles from the point to all\nthe vertices on the polygon.  If the sum is 2 pi, the point is inside,\nif the sum is 0 the point is outside.  However, this method is about an\norder of magnitude slower than the previous method because evaluating the\ntrigonometric functions is usually quite costly.\n\nCode for both methods (plus barycentric triangle testing) can be found in\nthe Ray Tracing News, Vol. 5, No. 3, available from princeton.edu:\npub\/Graphics\/RTNews\/RTNv5n3.Z.\n\n\n15) How to tessellate a sphere.\n\nOne simple way is to do recursive subdivision into triangles.  The\nbase of the recursion is an octahedron, and then each level divides\neach triangle into four smaller ones.  Jon Leech <leech@cs.unc.edu>\nhas posted a nice routine called sphere.c that generates the coordinates.\nIt's available for FTP on ftp.ee.lbl.gov and princeton.edu.\n\n16) Specific references on ray-tracing and global illumination.\n\nRick Speer maintains a cross-indexed ray-tracing bibliography:\n\nHighlights of this edition-\n\n    i) more than 500 citations spanning the period from 1968 through\n       November '91;\n    ii) papers from all Siggraph, Graphics Interface, Eurographics, CG\n        International and Ausgraph proceedings through December, '91;\n    iii) all citations keyworded for easy lookup;\n    iv) cross-indices by keyword and author;\n    v)  glossary of the 119 keywords used.\n\nThe bib is in the form of a PostScript file.  The printout is 41 pages long.\nBelow is a list of ftp sites and the dirs that contain the file. It's named\n\"speer.raytrace.bib.ps.Z\" and is compressed at most sites-\n\n             Site                             Dir\n\twuarchive.wustl.edu\tgraphics\/graphics\/bib\/RT.BIB.Speer\/\n\tkarazm.math.uh.edu\tpub\/Graphics\/\n\tgondwana.ecr.mu.oz.au\tpub\/papers\/\n\tnic.funet.fi\t\tpub\/sci\/papers\/graphics\n\tcoral.cs.jcu.edu.au     graphics\/papers\/\n\nEric Haines (erich@eye.com) maintains ray tracing and radiosity\/global\nillumination bibliographies.  These are in \"refer\" format, and so can be\nsearched electronically (a simple awk script to search for keywords is\nincluded with each).  The bibliographies are available at most of the\nsites listed above, and the most current versions are maintained at\nprinceton.edu: pub\/Graphics\/Papers as \"RayBib.*\" and \"RadBib.*\".\n\nTom Wilson (wilson@cs.ucf.edu) has collected over 300 abstracts from ray\ntracing related research papers and books.  The information is essentially\nin plaintext, and Latex and troff formatting programs are included.  This\ncollection is available at most of the sites above as \"rtabs.*\".\n\n17) SIGGRAPH information online\n\n[from Steve Cunningham and Ralph Orlick]\n\nACM-SIGGRAPH announces its online information site at  siggraph.org\n(128.248.245.250).  This site now provides SIGGRAPH information via both\nanonymous ftp and an electronic mail archive server.\n\nThe anonymous ftp service is very standard, and the ftp directory includes\nboth conference and publications subdirectories.\n\nTo retrieve information by electronic mail, send mail to\n     archive-server@siggraph.org\nand in the subject or the body of the message include the message  send\nfollowed by the topic and subtopic you wish.  A good place to start is with\nthe command\n     send index\nwhich will give you an up-to-date list of available information.\n\n\n18) SIGGRAPH Panels Proceedings available\n\n[from Steve Cunningham and Bob Judd]\n\nACM SIGGRAPH announces the availability of the SIGGRAPH '91 Panels Proceedings\nat the  siggraph.org  site (128.248.245.250).  The proceedings are available\nin three formats:\n     text   (ASCII)\n     rtf    (rich text format, suitable for many word processors)\n     word   (MS Word for the Macintosh)\nThey may be retrieved from siggraph.org in two ways:\n\n(1) by anonymous ftp\n    change to one of the directories\n       publications\/s91\/panels_proceedings\/[text|rtf|word]\n    The text and rtf files may be downloaded in ASCII mode, while the word\n    files are stored in MacBinary format and must be downloaded in binary \n    mode.\n\n    Each directory contains a Table of Contents file (TOC) that describes the\n    contents of each panel file.\n\n(2) by electronic mail\n    send mail to\n       archive-server@siggraph.org\n    You can retrieve either the  text  or  rtf  files.  We suggest that you\n    first retrieve the index files by putting one of the messages\n       send panel91-txt index\n       send panel91-rtf index\n    in the subject or body of the message.  You will get the necessary\n    information to retrieve the actual transcript files.\n\n\n19) Graphics mailing lists\n\nThere are a variety of graphics-related mailing list out there, each\ncovering either a single product or a single topic.  I have been an\nactive participant in one of these for some time now, and find the\nfocus and expertise which can be brought to bear on an isolated topic\nto be nothing short of amazing.\n\nPlease send me the appropriate information if you have any others you\nwould like to see added.\n\nName:\t\tImagine mailing list\nDescription:\tDiscussion forum for users of the Imagine 3D Rendering and\n\t\tAnimation package by Impulse, Inc.\nPlatforms:\tAmiga, IBM\nSubscription:\timagine-request@email.sp.paramax.com\nPosting:\timagine@email.sp.paramax.com\n\nName:\t\tDCTV mailing list\nDescription:\tDiscussion forum for users of the Digital Creations DCTV\n\t\tbox, software, and file formats\nPlatforms:\tAmiga\nSubscription:\tDCTV-request@nova.cc.purdue.edu\nPosting:\tDCTV@nova.cc.purdue.edu\n\nName:\t\tRayshade Users mailing list\nDescription:\tDiscussion forum for users of the Rayshade raytracer\nPlatforms:\tMost UNIX boxes, Amiga, Mac, IBM\nSubscription:\trayshade-request@cs.princeton.edu\nPosting:\trayshade-users@cs.princeton.edu\n\nName:\t\tLightwave 3D software for Toaster mailing list\nDescription:\tDiscussion forum for users of Lightwave, the Video\n\t\tToaster modelling and rendering package\nPlatforms:\tAmiga\nSubscription:\tlightwave-request@bobsbox.rent.com\n\t\twith \"subscribe lightwave-l\" in your message\nPosting:\tlightwave@bobsbox.rent.com\n\nName:\t\tPOV mailing list\nDescription:\tDiscussion forum for DKBTrace and POV renderers\nPlatforms:\tUnix\nSubscription:\tlistserv@trearn.bitnet\nPosting:\tdkb-l@trearn.bitnet\n\nName:\t\tMailing List For Massive Parallel Rendering\nDescription:\tsame?\nPlatforms:\tUnix\nSubscription:\tmp-render-request@icase.edu\nPosting:\tmp-render@icase.edu\n\n20) Specific references on file formats\n\n    Graphics File Formats, David Kay and John Levine, Windcrest\/McGraw-Hill\n      1992, ISBN 0-8306-3059-7 paper, ISBN 0-8306-3060-0 $36.95 hardcover,\n      ISBN 0-8306-3059-7 $24.95 paper.  Comments - 26 formats, no software\n      (this is good, IMHO - I prefer books which are non-platform-dependent).\n      Questions about this book may be sent to gbook@iecc.cambridge.ma.us.\n\n\n21) What about GIF?\n\nGIF stands for Graphics Interchange Format.  It is portable and usable upon\na wide variety of platforms.  It is quite limited in some ways (yes, the\nkeeper of the FAQ has some opinions after all), and in fact, I don't like\nit much.  However, it looks to me like the most-Frequently Asked Question\nwhich was not previously covered in this list.  The following is a list\nof newsgroups and the like where one could go to find out about GIF.\n\nSubject: alt.binaries.pictures FAQ - General info\nSubject: alt.binaries.pictures FAQ - OS specific info\nNewsgroups: alt.binaries.pictures.d,alt.binaries.pictures.misc,\n\talt.binaries.pictures.utilities,alt.binaries.pictures.fractals,\n\talt.binaries.pictures.fine-art.d,news.answers\n\nAvailable in the indicated USENET newsgroup(s), or via anonymous ftp from\npit-manager.mit.edu in the files:\n\n\/pub\/usenet\/news.answers\/pictures-faq\/part1\n\/pub\/usenet\/news.answers\/pictures-faq\/part2\n\nAlso available from mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu by sending a mail\nmessage containing any or all of:\n\nsend usenet\/news.answers\/pictures-faq\/part1\nsend usenet\/news.answers\/pictures-faq\/part2\n\nSend a message containing \"help\" to get general information about the\nmail server.\n\nAlso, you could check out the resources described in sections 7, 8, and\n20 above for more information.\n\n\n22) What is morphing?\n\nWarping is the deformation of an image by mapping each pixel to a new\nlocation. Morphing is blending from one image or object to another one.\nValerie Hall has written an excellent introduction to warping and\nmorphing. This is available for anonymous ftp from marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au\nin the directory pub\/graphics\/bibliography\/Morph. There are three files:\n\n        morph_intro.ps.Z     (PostScript version, many pictures - 1.5M)\n        morph_intro.txt.Z    (text version)\n        m_responses.Z        (Responses to morphing questions)\n\nThe files are compressed, so you must use binary transfer and\nuncompress them afterwards.\n\n\n23) How to ray-trace height fields\n\nHeight fields are a special case in ray-tracing.  They have a number of uses,\nsuch as terrain rendering, and some optimization is possible.  Thus, they\nget their own FAQ section.  Note that further references can no doubt be\nlocated via the ray-tracing bibs in section 16 above.\n\nThe following paper seems to be the definitive reference:\n\nF. Kenton Musgrave\nGrid Tracing: Fast Ray Tracing For Height Fields\nJuly, 1988\n<musg88.ps.Z>\n\nThis is available as \"Research Report YALEU\/DCS\/RR-639\" from Yale University,\nit's also in the SIGGRAPH '91 Fractal Modeling in 3D Computer Graphics and\nImaging course notes, and (best of all) it's available on the net:\n\n    nic.funet.fi\t\tpub\/sci\/papers\/musg88.ps.Z\n    weedeater.math.yale.edu\tpub\/Papers\/musg88.ms.Z\n    princeton.edu\t\tpub\/Graphics\/Papers\/musg88.ms.Z\n    coral.cs.jcu.edu.au\t\tgraphics\/papers\/musg88.ps.Z\n    gondwana.ecr.mu.OZ.AU\tpub\/papers\/musg88.ms.Z and musg88.ps.Z\n\nAn implementation of this paper may be found in Rayshade.\n\nAnother paper exists:\n\n%A David W. Paglieroni\n%A Sidney M. Petersen\n%T Parametric Height Field Ray Tracing\n%J Proceedings of Graphics Interface '92\n%I Canadian Information Processing Society\n%C Toronto, Ontario\n%D May 1992\n%P 192-200\n\nAnd still one more:\n\nMusgrave, Kolb, and Mace\n\"The Synthesis and Rendering of Eroded Fractal Terrains\",\nComputer Graphics Vol 23, No. 3 (SIGGRAPH '89 procedings) p. 41-50\n\n\n\n24) How to find the area of a 3D polygon\n\n\tThe area of a triangle is given by (in C notation),\n\n     area = 0.5 * ( ( x[0] * y[1] ) + ( x[1] * y[2] ) + ( x[2] * y[0] ) -\n\t            ( x[1] * y[0] ) - ( x[2] * y[1] ) - ( x[0] * y[2] ) );\n\nand the area of a planar polygon is given by\n\n     area = 0.0;\n\n     for ( i = 0; i < n - 1; i++ )\n         area += ( x[i] * y[i + 1] ) - ( x[i + 1] * y[i] );\n     area += ( x[n - 1] * y[0] ) - ( x[0] * y[n - 1] );\n     area \/= 2.0;\n\nIf the area is a negative number, the polygon or triangle is\nclockwise, if positive, it is counterclockwise.\n\n of Planar Polygons and Volume of Polyhedra:\"\n\nThe area of a polygon P0, P1, P2, ... Pn, not in the x-y plane, is\ngiven by\n\n     Area(Polygon) = 1\/2 * | N . Sigma { Pk x Pk+1 } |\n\nwhere N is the unit vector normal to the plane and P is a polygonal\nvertex.  The . represents the dot product operator and the x\nrepresents the cross product operator.  Sigma represents the summation\noperator.  | | represents the absolute value operator.  Pn+1 is equal\nto P0.\n\n\n25) How to join ACM\/SIGGRAPH\n\nProbably the easiest way to join ACM\/SIGGRAPH is to trot over to your\nlocal technical library and find a copy of Communications of the ACM.\nSomewhere within the first few pages will be an application blank.\nFill it out and mail it in.  ACM membership for students costs $23.00,\nVoting or Associate Membership $77.00 (yearly)\n\nSIGGRAPH student membership costs an additional $16.00, $26.00 for\nVoting or Associate Members (also yearly).  To get TOG (Transactions\non Graphics) it's another $26.00 for students and $31.00 for Voting or\nAssociate Members.\n\nIf you just want to join SIGGRAPH without joining ACM, it'll cost you\n$59.00 (no student discount).\n\nThere are surcharges for overseas airmailing of publications.\n\nACM Member services may be contacted via email at acmhelp@acmvm.bitnet. \nTheir phone number is (212) 626-0500.  FAX number (212) 944-1318.\nSnailmail address:\n\n                ACM\n                PO Box 12114\n                Church Street Station\n                New York, New York 10257\n\nSIGGRAPH `93 will be held in Anaheim, California, at the Anaheim\nConvention Center (just up the street from Disneyland) on August 1-6, 1993.\n\n26) Where can I find MRI and CT scan volume data?\n\nVolume data sets are available from the University of North Carolina at\nomicron.cs.unc.edu (152.2.128.159) in \/pub\/softlab\/CHVRTD.  (Commerical\nuse is prohibited.)\n\nHead data - A 109-slice MRI data set of a human head.\n\nKnee data - A 127-slice MRI data set of a human knee.\n\nHIPIP data - The result of a quantum mechanical calculation of a SOD data\nof a one-electron orbital of HIPIP, an iron protein.\n\nSOD data - An electron density map of the active site of SOD (superoxide\ndismutase). \n\nCT Cadaver Head data - A 113-slice MRI data set of a CT study of a cadaver\nhead. \n\nMR Brain data -  A 109-slice MRI data set of a head with skull partially\nremoved to reveal brain.\n\nRNA data - An electron density map for Staphylococcus Aureus Ribonuclease.\n\n\n27) Specific references on spatial data structures including quadtrees\n\tand octrees\n\nH. Samet,\nThe Design and Analysis of Spatial Data Structures,\nAddison-Wesley, Reading, MA, 1990.\nISBN 0-201-50255-0.\n\nH. Samet,\nApplications of Spatial Data Structures:  Computer Graphics, Image Processing, a\nnd GIS,\nAddison-Wesley, Reading, MA, 1990.\nISBN 0-201-50300-0.\n\n\n28) Where can I get a program to plot XY(Z) data or f(x) data?\n\nGnuplot is a command-driven interactive data\/function  plotting program.  It\nruns on just about any machine, and is very flexible in terms of supported\noutput devices.  The official North American distribution site for the latest\nversion is dartmouth.edu in \/pub\/gnuplot.  More information is available from\nthe USENET newsgroup comp.graphics.gnuplot and its FAQ, graphics\/gnuplot-faq.\n\nACE\/gr (xmgr - Motif\/xvgr - XView) is a data\/function plotting tool for \nworkstations or X-terminals using X.  Available from ftp.ccalmr.ogi.edu\nin \/CCALMR\/pub\/acegr.\n\nrobotx (Robot) is a general purpose plotting and data analysis program.\nRequires XView, X-terminal or workstation.  Available from sunsite.unc.edu\nin \/pub\/academic\/data_analysis.\n\nXgraph is a popular two-dimensional plotting program that accepts data in a\nform similar to the unix program graph and displays line graphs, scatter plots,\nor bar charts on an X11 display.  Available from ic.berkeley.edu in \/pub.\n\nDrawplot is a program for drawing 2D plots on X10\/X11 windows, SUNVIEW\ndisplays, or HP2648 terminals. Available from xcf.berkeley.edu in \/src\/local.\n\n29) Specific references on PEX and PHIGS\n\n    PEXlib Programming Manual, Tom Gaskins, 1154 pages, O'Reilly & Associates,\n\tISBN 1-56592-028-7\n\n    PEXlib Reference Manual, edited by Steve Talbott, 577 pages, O'Reilly &\n\tAssociates, ISBN 1-56592-029-5\n\n    PHIGS Programming Manual, Tom Gaskins, 908 pages, O'Reilly & Associates,\n\tISBN 0-93775-85-4 (softcover), ISBN 0-937175-92-7 (casebound)\n\n    PHIGS Reference Manual, edited by Linda Kosko, 1099 pages, O'Reilly &\n\tAssociates, ISBN 0-937175-91-9\n\n\n30) SIGGRAPH Online Bibliography Project\n\nThe ACM SIGGRAPH Online Bibliography Project is a database of over 15,000\nunique computer graphics and computational geometry references in BibTeX\nformat, available to the computer graphics community as a research and\neducational resource.\n\nThe database is located at \"siggraph.org\".  Users may download the BibTeX\nfiles via FTP and peruse them offline, or telnet to \"siggraph.org\" and log\nin as \"biblio\" and interactively search the database for entries of interest,\nby keyword.\n\nAdditions\/corrections\/suggestions may be directed to the admin,\n\"bibadmin@siggraph.org\".","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I am working with Visual Basic v2.0 for windows.\nSpecifically, I am working on an application that generates formatted reports.\nSince, some of these reports can be rather large, my first question is:\n\n1.  Is there a way to increase the size of a list box or text box in\nVisual Basic\/windows beyond the 64k limit?\n\nAs I have not (as yet - being optimistic :-) come across a way to get\naround the above problem, I am working on the following approach:\n\nI am trying to create my own defined template in MS-Word, using the\nWordBasic Macros so that I can open up Word from Visual Basic(VB) and load\nthis template of mine, which will work in the following way:\n\nIt will first open MyOwn.INI file (created in VB - at the time when the\nuser selected the kind of report he weanted) and read the section from the\n.INI file and jump to the appropriate code in template - which will then\nopen and read a file pertaining to the section it read from the .INI file.\n\n1.  When using the GetProfileString function in WordBasic, is there a way\nto specify\/change the default .INI file (which is win.ini) to MyOwn.INI file?\n\n2. When using the file Input$ function in WordBasic - is there a way to\nread more than the 32k at one time?\n\n---\nAny help will be appreciated.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nNever claimed it is a bug.\n\n\n\nNever claimed it is a bug.\n\n\n\nI guess I edited my note on this away from the article I posted to\nmany newsgroups.\n\nI wrote something about making color modifications quickly\nwith 8bit quantized images and only at the saving the image to file\nprocess we have to make the modifications to the 24bit image.\nThis makes sense, because the main use of XV is only viewing images.\n\nDoing many changes to image, we should keep all modifications\nin a buffer; and then before making the operations to 24bit image,\nwe should simplify the operation list for unnecessary operations.\n\n\n\nNever claimed it is a bug.\nI tried kept sure I don't claim that JPEG is noting else than\na compression algorithm, because I know what the JPEG is.\n(You propably misunderstood what I wrote as you have done in many\nplaces so far.)\n\nYou also missed what is (were) wrong with XV. However, I did wrote it.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
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{"text":"\nWell, isn't this just a hoot! :)  All I read on this group is a bunch\nof ppl fearing the misuses of information by the big bad evil govt.\nThis just happens to be a case of an ordinary-joe-netter, who decided\nthat he would create and\/or distribute some misinformation.  Ppl buy\ninto BS posts like this (I know, because I forwarded a copy of the\npost to my office mate, who turned around and was (although he won't\nadmit it...sorry Joe!) ready to get in a fight about F-O-R-F-E-I-T-U-R-E!!!)\nPlease, if we're going to hold our govt (which admittedly has had and\nstill has its problems) to high standards, then mustn't we follow these\ntoo?  Electronic Freedoms only go so far.\n\n \n\nHey, I'm willing to forgive...after of course my office mate takes his\nextra anti-paranoia pills! :)","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nIn some earlier discussions on this thread I may have\ngiven the impression that even though children didn't \nrequire baptism it wouldn't hurt if they were.\nTo the contrary, when you baptize children before\nthey are capable of comprehending it you deny them \ntheir opportunity to demonstrate their desire to\nserve God.\n\nHave any of you considered that children are not\naccountable for sin because they are not capable of \nrepentance?\nPeter said to a group of \"men and brethren,\" \"Repent\nand be baptized every one of you\" (Acts 2:38).\nNotice that he specified that if they *repent* then \nthey may be *baptized*.\n\nIn following Peter's instructions people must first\ndemonstrate repentance (a forsaking of their sins and \na desire to obey God's commands) *before* they are \neligible to be baptized.\n\nSince young children are not capable of repenting,\nthey are not eligible for baptism.\nAnd since God is both just and merciful \"sin is not \nimputed when there is no law\" (Romans 5:13), young \nchildren are not accountable for what they can't \ncomprehend.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"[my stuff about dealing with defferences deleted]\n\n\ni am sorry; i did not mean to.  i think i understand how your\nexperiences were much worse than the small bit of ridicule i have had\nto put up with.  i guess i didn't really understand before; now i do.\n\n\nwow, pretty conservative church.  (please excuse me if this seems like\na ridiculous understatement to you.)\n\n\n(on a side note, that \"under God\" wasn't in there until recently -- i\nbelieve my father, who is in his sixties, remembers saying the pledge\nof allegiance without that in there.  i don't know the history behind\nthat though.)\n\nemotional blackmail -- ouch.  thank goodness (i'll be neutral in my\nthanks here :) ) i was raised in a completely tolerant household, so\nthat i could make my own decisions!\n\n\nso atheism doesn't have to be taught, but christianity does.  i guess\ni can see that, although i can see a child believing in some sort of\ngod without anything other than his\/ her own imagination as a basis.\n(sorry, i guess this is sort of minor)\n\n[my query about parallel between lack of choice for homosexuals and\nlack of choice for him as an atheist deleted]\n\nhmm, i wonder why i am a christian then?  this isn't a flame, this is\na real wonder.  does anyone else have opinions to offer on why you\nbelieve in something that hasn't necessarily been \"proven\" to you?\n\n\nsounds like you are an atheist by nature, then.  or is it possible\nthat at least part of it is due to the apparently repressive nature of\nthe christianity of your childhood?  if this is getting too personal\nperhaps you should ignore it, or we can take it to email.\n\n\nthis may have been a general remark; you do not sound broken to me,\nbut indeed stronger.\n\n\nyes, i agree with that.  i've seen some of the damage repressive\nreligion can do, and as a result i intend to raise my own children as\nmuch as i can to look around before accepting one religious stand\n(atheism is included in this) and to _question everything_ -- this is\nvery important.\n\n\ni can see that.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"From the Boston Globe, Thursday April 22 1993\n\np. 44\n\nWalpole man, 32, guilty in rape\n\nKenne, N.H. -- A Walpole man\ncharged with kidnapping a\nmother of two from her home, then\nraping and beating her, has pleaded \nguilty.  Roger Santaw Jr. also plead-\ned guilty to an attempted escape\nfrom Cheshire County jail last win-\nter.  Santaw, 32 is scheduled to be\nsentenced next week.  The rape last\nfall came six months after Santaw\nwas released from prision, where\nhe spent 15 years for a rape he commit-\nted when he was 16.  (AP)\n\n\n \n[end of article]\n\nAny reactions?  Did he do enough time?  What should his penalty\nbe?  ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nSealing off the Gaza Strip has the interesting side-effect of\ndemonstrating the non-viability of Gaza as an independent state.\nWhere are all of these people going to go to find work if they are\nseparated from Israel?  If they complain about having to show id cards\non the way to work, how will they feel about showing passports on the\nway to work?\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Yes, Duo prices have dropped.  I don't have the MSRP reductions,\n(though you can find it in a recent TidBITS, archived at sumex)\nbut here's the Berkeley educational price list (old -> new)\n\nDuo 210 4\/80        $1919 -> 1569\nDuo 230 4\/80        $2225 -> 1961\nDuo 230 4\/120       $2532 -> 2268\nDuo 230 4\/120\/modem $2746 -> 2473\n\nSo there.\n\nJoel\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\nShow me the realistic price tag...\n\n\n\nNice, but way over $900....\nMy point is price\/performance  not just performance...\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"OK, you've already disqualified yourself (who ever you are) from\nbeing objective.\n\n\nJews are a people with a common cultural heritage, religion, and history.\nWe are not a race.\n\n\n\nYou don't see a difference between killing British soldiers (who were\npreventing Jews who tried to escape the Nazis from entering the\nBritish mandate) and Arab terrorist who kill civilian men, women, and\nchildren?!?\n\n\n\nThat's ridiculuous on atleast two counts.  First of all, even if you identify\nyourself as completely Jewish that doesn't rule out the possibility that you're\na self-hating anti-semite.  One can always find Jews who are uncomfortable with\ntheir identities (since they only want Jews to be cowering victims) and are\nwilling to speak up for their enemies.  Secondly, the strength or weakness of\nyour arguments does not depend on your identity.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nThere are doubts about it. Why don't you define what self-hating Jew means?\nI found the idea itself of being a self-hating Jew to be one of those\nrediculous things that people repeat and repeat because it seems to have a\nmeaning when in fact it has none.\nI hope you can come up with a definition in itself and not something like:\nlook at this person, that is a self-hating Jew.\n\n\nThat is why I get moved when I see the Israeli Army killing people in \nthe Occupied Territories as much as I get moved when I see a Plestinian\nstabing people in Israel.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"All consipiracy theories aside, (they are watching though :-)), will NASA \ntry to image the Cydonia region of Mars where the \"Face\n\" is? If they can image it with the High resolution camera, it would \nsettle the FACE question once and for all. I mean, with a camera that \nwill have a pixel resolution of about 6 feet, we'd know whether all this \nstuff is real or imagination. \n\nCome on JPL and NASA folks, try to image it and settle this thing.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"#>In article <1993Apr20.070156.26910@abo.fi> MANDTBACKA@FINABO.ABO.FI\n#\n#>#      Ah, that old chestnut, your claim that moral objectivism ==\n#>#scientific objectivism. I don't agree with it; now try proving, through\n#>#some objective moral test, that my disagreeing is incorrect. =)\n#> \n#> Your claim, which you have deleted now was \"not universal => not objective\".\n#\n#      I've deleted it now, in the interest of brevity. Go back a step\n#and you'll see it was still in your post. Yes, that was my claim; if you\n#can refute it, then please do so.\n\nFirstly, an apology.  You hadn't deleted your claim, and I was mistaken in\nsaying you had. Sorry for any offence caused.\n\nSecondly,  how can I refute your definition?  I can only point up its\nlogical implications, and say that they seem to contradict the usage\nof the word \"objective\" in other areas.  Indeed, by your definition, an\nobjective x is an oxymoron, for all x.  I have no quibble with that\nbelief, other than that it is useless, and that \"objective\" is a perfectly\ngood word.\n\n#> So, what *is* objective?  Not the age of the universe, anyway, as I show\n#> above.\n#\n#      How many ages can the universe have, and still be internally self-\n#consistent? I'd be amazed if it was more than one. How many different\n#moral systems can different members of society have - indeed, single\n#individuals, in some cases - and humanity still stick together?\n\nBegging the question.  People can have many opinions about the age\nof the universe and humanity can still stick together.   You are\nsaying that the universe has a _real_ age, independent of my beliefs about\nit.  Why?\n\n#      The age of the universe, like most scientific facts, can be\n#emirically verified through means that'll give the same result no matter\n#who performs the testing (albeit there are error bars that may be on the\n#largish side...). \n\nThis assumes that the universe has a real age, or any kind of reality\nwhich doesn't depend on what we think.   Why should an extreme Biblical\nCreationist give a rat's ass about the means of which you speak?\n\n#I've heard of no way to verify morality in a\n#consistent way, much less compute the errors of the measurement; care to\n#enlighten me?\n\nThe same is true of pain, but painkillers exist, and can be predicted\nto work with some accuracy better than a random guess.  I wrote\nelsewhere that morality should be hypotheses about observed value.\nIf a moral system makes a prediction \"It will be better if...\",\nthat can be tested, and is falsifiable in the same way as a prediction\n\"This drug will relieve pain...\"\n\n#      People's *ideas* about the age of object X are *not* objective;\n#you can have any idea you like, and I can't stop you. Universae and\n#their ages is another ballgame; they are what they are, and if you\n#dislike some detail of them, that's a problem with your *opinion* of\n#them. \n\nSure.  Assume an objective reality, and you get statements like this.\n\n#I claim that morality is an opinion of ours, and as such\n#subjective and individual. If I'm wrong, then some more-or-less\n#objectively \"real\" thing exists, which you label \"objective morality\";\n#can you back up this positive claim of existence?\n\nCan you back up your positive claim above?  No.  That's because it's an\nassumption.  I make the same assumption about values, on the basis\nthat there is no logical difference between the two, and the empirical\nbasis of the two is precisely the same.\n\n#>#      Point: Morals are, in essence, personal opinions. Usually\n#>#(ideally) well-founded, motivated such, but nonetheless personal. The\n#>#fact that a real large lot of people agree on some moral question,\n#>#sometimes even for the same reason, does not make morals objective; it\n#>#makes humans somewhat alike in their opinions on that moral question,\n#>#which can be good for the evolution of a social species.\n#> \n#> And if a \"real large lot\" (nice phrase) of people agree that there is a \n#> football on a desk, I'm supposed to see a logical difference between the two?  \n#> Perhaps you can explain the difference to me, since you seem to see it\n#> so clearly.\n#\n#      Take a look on the desk - i.e., perform a test. If(football) THEN\n#(accept theory) ELSE DO (Tell people they're hallucinating).\n#\n#      Now take a look at morality. See anything? If so, please inform me\n#which way to look, and WHY to look that particular way, as opposed to\n#some other. Get my drift?\n\nNo. Just look.  Are you claiming never to know what good means?\n\n#>#      *Science* is a whole other matter altogether.\n#> \n#> Says you.  Prove that those who disagree are wrong?\n#\n#      That's a simple(?) matter of proving the track record of the\n#scientific method.\n\nI think it's great, and should be applied to values.  I may be completely\nwrong, but that's what I conclude as a result of quite an amount of\nthought.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\nInfoWorld (April 26, 1993 issue) has two articles about problems with DOS\n6.  A 'Second Look' article calls it a 'loaded gun' and that people\nshould exercise extreme caution if they decide to use it.  The point out\nthat DoubleSpace and MemMaker are both problem areas that will cause a\nnumber of folks problems.\n\nMS's response was to the effect that there had been no problems reported\nthat they could duplicate (probably are not trying too hard).","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\nhow sensible is DES encrypted data towards bit errors? How much data per\nbit will be lost in average (I assume you still have the correct key)?\n\nThanx for hints,\nAxel\n\n---\nExperience is what you get if you don't get what you want...","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nNot nearly as angry as I was to have set the VCR yesterday only to get\nhome to find the Bruins VS Buffalo - that's what I get for reading the\nTV section and not the sports section for what game will be aired.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nAnd you'd be wrong about that too.\n\nNote that Texas isn't unique in this \"more with-gun deaths than\nwith-car deaths\", but some of the other states where it happens have\nextremely strict gun laws.  Oops - so much for the \"meaning\".\n\nIt isn't clear that the comparision means anything anyway as car\naccidents are unintentional while gun deaths aren't, but if we're\ngoing to make it, let's at least be honest.\n\n\nGive it up for what?  Gun control doesn't have any benefits, so\nit fails by this standard.\n\n\nNote that insurance gives me something in return - gun control doesn't.\n\n\nThat's half the question - the rest is \"and what do you get for your\nsacrifice\".  If the answer to the second question is \"nothing\", as it\nis for gun control, then we don't have to ask the first question\nbecause getting nothing means that no sacrifice is justified.\n\n-andy","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nUsing the software you're using, I agree with you there.  What I did:\nI installed DOS, Windows and CPBackup (functionally the same\nas your Norton, for the purposes of this discussion), and used the \nDOS \"backup\" command on just that much.  To restore, I boot to the \n\"system\" diskette, and use DOS \"restore\" to read in that much, then\nboot to windows and restore my full backups using CPB (Norton, in your\ncase), overwriting what I've just restored.  That allows me to keep\nthis skeletal Windows essentially unchanged, with all my customization\non the \"real\" copy done using the 3rd-party backup utility.\n\n\nSeems possible, if you can put skeletal versions of DOS and your backup\nutility on a \"system\" floppy.  Then you could restore it all on one \"go\".\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Didn't Fred Hoyle abandon the steady state theory?\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Where did the hacker ethic go?\n\nWe hackers of the 70's and 80' are now comfortably employed\nand supporting families.  The next generation takes\nthe radical lead now.  Don't look for radicalism among us\nold ones; we're gone...\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Greetings this is a general call for information regarding Image\nProcessing. I am looking for any material related to the field, and am\nalso trying to get my hands on some easy to use packages related to the\nfield. In particular source code for general use packages.\n\nI already have several texts on the subject, but would appreciate more\ninput from people more knowledgable in the field than myself. I'm not\nmathematically literate (ie. I don't have a degree in mathematics), so\nany material that is suggested I would prefer that it was not\nmathematically intensive.\n\nThe best book I have found on the subject at the moment is:\n\n\"Practical Digital Image Processing\"\nby Rhys Lewis\nISBN: 0-13-683525-2\nPublished by Ellis Horwood (c)1990.\n\nLikewise I am trying to get a fair sample of programs that demonstrate\nImage Processing techniques. So far I have 'xv', and 'khoros' for Unix.\n'Dcview 2.1' for the IBM PC, and various related smatterings of C code\nto help describe topics like, contrasting, dithering, image enhancement\nvia convolution etc.\n\nIf anyone could kindly supply me with some public domain software\npertinent to this area, or better still if they could tell me where I am\nmost likely to find it on the AARNET (Internet). If I can I would prefer\nsource code in C or Turbo Pascal that includes some Image Processing\ncode\/algorithms, that I can readily alter\/manipulate for the purposes of\ndemonstration it would be most helpful.\n\nAll the above information will contribute to my post-graduate studies,\nand will be liberally used in my paper, and seminar on the subject.\n\n\n          Thanks in advance Vance Ashlin\n          Diploma Advanced Computing\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\nThinking is dangerous, subversive, mindnumbing and leads you astray\n\nashlin@ironbark.ucnv.edu.au\ni880429@redgum.ucnv.edu.au","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n   [re: voyages of discovery...]\n   Could you give examples of privately funded ones?\n\nIf you believe 1492 (the film), Columbus had substantial private\nfunds.  When Columbus asked the merchant why he put the money in, the\nguy said (slightly paraphrased) , \"There is Faith, Hope and Charity.\nBut greater than these is Banking.\"","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Does anyone know of the whereabouts of technical reports that\nI can access via the Internet?\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nPaul's statement only asserts that that particular choice was not\na matter of karmic fulfillment of the past, just as the fate of the\nman born blind (John 9) was not.  There is no question here of the\nsimplistic idea of karma as a machine that is the sole determiner\nof one's destiny.  Even the eastern traditions, or many of them,\ndo not say that, as one knowledgeable poster pointed out.\n\nAnd if in fact that Paul did not know about or believe in reincarnation\ndoes not say anything one way or another about it.  Even John the Baptist,\nwho Jesus says emphatically is Elijah (Matt 11:14), does not appear to \nhave been aware of it, at least at the point at which he was asked. But \nit is interesting that his threefold denial -- to the question whether \nhe is the Christ, the Prophet (i.e. Isaiah), or Elijah, is emphatic in \nthe first case and very weak in the third.\n\nI would like to add once again that, while it is important to discuss the\ndifferent passages that may point directly to the teaching of repeated\nearth lives, one way or another, what I really see as important in our\ntime is that the subject be revisited in terms of the larger view of\nChristianity and Christian doctrine.  For the most part, those who do\naccept it either reject the central ideas of Christianity or, if they\nare Christians, hold their conviction as a kind of separate treasure.\nI believe that Christianity has important new understanding to bring\nto bear on it, and vice versa, much that is central to Christianity\ntakes on entirely new dimensions of meaning in light of repeated earth\nlives. It has a direct bearing on many of the issues frequently discussed \nin this newsgroup in particular.\n\nI have said openly that I have developed my views of repeated earth lives\nlargely from the work of Rudolf Steiner.  Not that I hold him as an\nauthority, but the whole picture of Christianity becomes clearer in light\nof these ideas.  Steiner indicated that the old consciousness of reincar-\nnation necessarily had to fade away that it could be renewed in later\ntimes, after a time of development of the Christ idea through the first\ntwo millenia after Christ's deed on Golgotha.  In our own time, it becomes \nimportant that, having received the basic gospel of salvation, our \nunderstanding of life and of the human being can now grow to embrace the \nsignificance of this idea.  For the discussions in this newsgroup, I \nhave tried to focus on that which can be related as directly as possible \nto scripture and to fundamental Christian teaching and tradition.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nHmm... all reports from Texas authorities indicate that none of the children\nwhich the group released showed any signs of child abuse.. given that the same\nresults were found the last time the group was investigated for such allegations,\nI can pretty much state that I strongly suspect the government of disinformation\n\/deception on this issue.  And about stockpiling weapons\/food, many recognized\nreligous groups practice maintaining a one years supply of food, and some even\nmaintain a supply of weapons and ammunition, why are those two facts grounds \nfor an armed assault?  And from the dollar value of the weapons purchased, \nif they bought decent firearms it comes out to about one handgun, rifle, and\nshotgun for each adult, with a few extras...  Going by that rule, the BATF\nbest get ready for the fight of their life when they assault Alabama...\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nActually, I've had a bad habit of stuffing a whole bunch of other garbage\njunk mail in along with whatever else into *anybody's* prepaid envelopes\nuntil they almost burst.  I believe they pay postage by weight.\nheh, heh, heh...\n\nAnyways, don't tear up the quotes just yet...I sometimes use their\nquotes or other insurance quotations as leverage to haggle for a\nlower rate elsewhere.  Usually it works to *your* advantage if \nthey are lower.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nNowadays, usually with a computer. No theory predicted the numeric \ndiscoveries listed above. No one can yet write an algorithm that will\npredict the precise behavior of any of these at any precise level of\ntheir evolution. So it remains for experimenters to gather data on their\nbehavior.\n\nGary","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"[... snip ...]\n\n\nCan you imagine what happens when a magazine explodes? Bullets go flying every\nwhere. IMHO, these \"gunshot wounds\" were actually caused when the magazines \nwent up. A Texas ranger does not a pathologist make, so I'll wait for an\nautopsy to determine if they were shot first. ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Since the demise of the Outbound company, what options would exist for me \nif I were to buy one of their laptops? \n\n(1) Since the Outbounds (2030, 2030E, etc) use mac plus roms, won't that \nseverly limit using future applications?\n\n(2) What is a reasonable price for one of their laptops? The prices I've \nseen seem extremely high considering the limited choices now.\n\n(3) How reliable have they proven?\n\nAny answers would be helpful.\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n** I am considering either an inkjet or bubble jet printer. I've seen\n   inkjet printers and I was impressed with the near lazer quality.\n\n   I have heard a lot of bad things about the cheaper bubble-jet printers.\n   Does the ink smudge very easily and take a long time to dry ?\n\n   Thanks.\n\n\n   ","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Oops, what the hell a crosspost is this ?!\n\nHave a look onto XV-3.00 before saying anything more about it's power.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nAccording to this reasoning there are no rights, at least none that I can think \nof....\n\nLet's see.  Do I have a right to unpolluted air?  No, because the majority\ndrive cars and use goods that create air pollution in the manufacturing process.\n\nDo I have the right to clean water?  I guess not, by the same reasoning.\nI could go on with these examples for a long time....\n\nLook at Nazi Germany.  Because of the majority, Jews, homosexuals, blacks,\nand others that were different had no rights.  In fact they were terrorized, \nimprisoned, and slaughtered.  In this country did blacks have the right to be\nfree from slavery?  I guess not, because the majority said that slavery was \ngood for them.\n\nI think that a right has a moral imperative.  If a law, imposed by the majority,\nis immoral, one should not follow it.  In fact, one should do everything in\nhis\/her power to stop it. Of course, that doesn't mean that I would lose all\ncommon sense to break the law, just because I thought it was immoral.  I pay\nmy Federal Income Tax even though I am morally opposed to the U.S. Government\ntaking my money and spending it on weapons of mass destruction and terrorism.\nThis is precisely the point I am trying to make.  We should _persude_ people \nby logic, pointing out that it is in their self-interest to let all have\nequal rights in all aspects of life, including adequate housing, food, and\nmedical care.  I just happen to think that for a full life the aesthetic of\nbeauty and joy is also necessary.  That is why I consider an uncluttered\nnight sky a right.\n\nHave you ever been out in the desert, away from local lights, and most people?\nThe sky is dark and transparent.  The Milky Way is ablaze with more detail\nthan you thought possible.  The beauty and wonder takes your breath away.\n\nNow imagine you live in the worst ghetto, say in L.A. Due to light pollution\nyou have never seen a dark sky.  You might in fact never, not in your whole\nlife, ever see the majesty of the night sky.  Every where around you, you see\nsqualor, and through your life runs a thread of dispair. What is there to live\nfor?  \n\nI admit these two scenarios are extreme examples, but I have seen both.\nI, for one, need dreams and hopes, and yes, beauty, as a reason for living.\nThat is why I consider an uncluttered night sky a right.\n\nGeorge","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"The cited passages are covered IN DEPTH in a FAQ for this group.\nThat particular FAQ (I've forgotten the author) discusses the\ntraditional vs. pro-homosexual interpretations of the passages and\nindicates which points have strong textual support.\n\nPerhaps the moderator might give again the instructions for\nretrieving the FAQ on this topic?\n\nBTW, this issue, while dealt with before, is VERY timely.  One\nof the major Presbyterian churches in California (St. Andrews -- a \nMegaChurch in a rich neighborhood) is withholding their support of \nSynod (amounts to about 10% of the budget of the Synod, which \ncovers all of Southern CA and Hawaii) until support for a \npro-homosexual lobbying group (the Lazarus Project) is terminated.\n[This came from a news report on CNN yesterday -- corrections welcome.]\n\t\t\t\t\tTim\n\n[I think it's time for me to post the FAQ.  \n\nThis is an issue throughout the Presbyterian Church.  On the other\nside, one of the major churches in Cincinnati has been ordaining\nhomosexual elders, and has ignored Presbytery instructions not to do\nso.  And the church in Rochester where the judicial commission said\nthey couldn't install a homosexual pastor has made her an\n\"evangelist\".  These situations, as well as the one you describe, do\nnot appear to be stable.  This will certainly be a major topic for the\nGeneral Assembly next month.  If the church can't come up with a\nsolution that will let people live with each other, I think we're end\nup with a split.  Clearly neither side wants that, but I think we'll\nget pushed into it by actions of both sides.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"1988 Burton Air Snowboard\n\nMultiflex bindings\ntriple strap on back binding\nboard bag and leash included\nrecently toned and waxed \n\n$139 firm.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"FOR SALE\n\nSherwood AM\/FM Stereo Reciever\n20 memory presets (I think, may be 18)\n25 watts per channel\n\n$70 or best offer\n\nPlease reply to gt7187c@prism.gatech.edu\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Bleep! Bleep! Bleep!  The Bruins lost AGAIN in O.T.  I can't stand it!\n\nAside from frustrated ravings, I must give Buffalo credit: they are making good \non most of their scoring opportunities, and are playing great defense.  Boston\nplayers can't seem to get control of the puck anywhere near the Buffalo net\nexcept for on rare occasions.  The Buffalo defense is also doing an excellent\njob clearing away rebounds.  Fuhr is playing great when the big save is needed\nbut he's also getting plenty of help.\nBoston has been playing rather well (better than would be indicated by the \nseries score of 3-0) but is lacking that extra drive in the earlier part of the \ngame.  As a result, Boston keeps leaving the ice at the end of the 1st period\n2 goals down.  This MUST stop if Boston is to have any hope of winning a single\ngame (the outlook for the Bruin's advancement to the second round are quite\nbleak).  IMHO, the Bruins NEED to score first.  If they can do that, they have\nan excellent chance of winning, since they have outplayed the Sabres in the \n2nd and 3rd periods.\n\n(The scary thing is that I'll be going to grad school in Buffalo next year.\n   I'll never cheer for the Sabres... You can't convert me... ^:)\n\n\nMTM3\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nRubbish. The reason for the colour of the boards depends on the solder\nmask that is used. Older boards (bakelite and phenolic) rarely used\na solder mask (these boards are not suited well to automatic stuffing\nand soldering techniques) and hence are the colour of the compound\nused to make them. These days boards are made of fibreglass for most\ngeneral purpose uses and have a solder mask applied to them to prevent\nclose traces shorting to one another during soldering (and also to prevent\nthe decomposition of traces under harsh environments). The light and dark\ngreen boards ofter seen have a \"dry film\" mask applied to them (usually\napplied as a complete film photographically produced). The blue (and red\nor orange) boards are a two-part epoxy or a liquid-imageable resist\nformulation and are applied in a different manner. There's a lot of info\nabout the pro's and con's of each, but that's another story...\n\n    Sla\/n go fo\/ill,\n                    Risky B.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nUnfortunately, Hoover thought himself above the constitution, whatever he\nconsidered the limits others should obey. He ruthlessly invaded the privacy\nof many private and public citizens. \n\n  -mel","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"How do I view .eps files on X? I have an image in color encapsulated\npostscript, and need to view it on my screen.\n\nAre there any utilities that will let me convert between encapsulated\npostscript and plain postscript?","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nThis is one of the most ridiculous arguments I have heard from the \nEuropeans. \"Let's let the Serbs massacre, rape, and ethnically clean\n100,000 Bosnians because we don't want our pretty blue berets there\nto get scratched\".  Well, I say, get them the hell out of there if you're\nworried for them, but don't deny Bosnians their basic right to self\ndefense! Lift the embargo against Bosnia, and let them defend themselves.\nWhat makes the UN troops more valuable than the Bosnian people?  They\nare letting the civilians die so the soldiers could survive, when\nif anything, it should be the other way around.  Idiots like Owen \nexpect Bosnians to swallow a forced plan, and just hope this problem\nwill go away.  Well they're wrong.  If they had got their butts in gear\n(that is, if Bosnia had oil) a year ago, much of this could be prevented.\nNow, however, the results of this tragedy will last for generations.\nThat's like forcing the jews to make peace with Hitler. Yeah right.\nThis, as senator Biden said, reeks of bigotry, and makes me and any \ndecent human being for that matter, quite sick.  It should be the\nEuropeans, not the Americans, who take the inititiative and ask the\nother for support.  This is their backyard, not the Americans.\nToday it's Bosnia, tomorrow it will be Kosovo and Macedonia, Greece,\nand then Turkey, and the damn thing will spread.  Not to mention \nEuropean muslims who weren't even practicing before will rally to\nfundamentalism. Good luck handling that, your majesty!  Owen was\nupset at the question which compared him to Chamberlain, who hoped\nto appease Hitler.  He said that Chamberlain had been in Munich 2 years\nbefore any war, I have been here during a blazing war for the last\n18 months.  Well, that makes him even worse, because Chamberlain could\nhave at least argued I'm giving Germany the benefit of the doubt,\nwhereas Owen can't even do that.  What the west is doing is aiding the\nSerbs by tying the Bosnians' hands, and making the stupid excuse of their\npowerless troops on the ground, who can't even protect the Bosnian foreign\nminister in their own armored vehicle, and watch the killers just walk\naway!  What kind of peace is this?  What kind of civilization is this?\n\n\nEuropean leaders are PATHETIC, and are helping a genocide which even they\nwill not be able to forget.  Yeah, they'll go to Africa and fight for some\ndamn dictator in their former colony, they'll go to Kuwait and fight for\noil, but in Bosnia not only they won't fight aggression, they'll even\ntie the hands of the victim.  Now you tell me who is fooling whom.\n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":": \n: >I have a Microsoft Serial Mouse and am using mouse.com 8.00 (was using 8.20 \n: >I think, but switched to 8.00 to see if it was any better).  Vertical motion \n: >is nice and smooth, but horizontal motion is so bad I sometimes can't click \n: >on something because my mouse jumps around.  I can be moving the mouse to \n: >the right with relatively uniform motion and the mouse will move smoothly \n: >for a bit, then jump to the right, then move smoothly for a bit then jump \n: >again (maybe this time to the left about .5 inch!).  This is crazy!  I have \n: >never had so much trouble with a mouse before.  Anyone have any solutions?\n\nHere is another hint:\n\n\tI have a really jumping mouse (ps2 type), and finally the mouse\nstops jump changing HIMEM.SYS (yes, himem!), is you use:\n\nDEVICE=HIMEM.SYS \/M:x\n\nx can be 1,2,...,8 (Of course my computer DON'T appear on the list for\nthese parameter)\n\n And maybe, your mouse can stop jump... (But your problem looks more\nlike a dirty mouse ;)...\n\n\tHope it help (to anybody!)","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nAnd I thought the nutters were the ones throwing the bricks from the\nbridge.......\n\n\nAn institution?\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Please reply to the seller below.\n\nFor Sale:\n\nSun SCSI-2 Host Adapter Assembly\n-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\n  Brand New In Unopened Mylar\n  Sun part no. 501-1167\n \n  50pin Dsub external connector\n  Compatible with Sun 3\/100\/200, 4\/200\/300 machines\n\t\n Available March 1, 1993.\n\n Originally purchased for ~$1,200 eighteen months ago\n\nPlease email offers to:","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nOr alternatively, 75% of the questions cover 10% of the topics in this group -\nmaking them frequently asked.\n\nSo the other 25% cover 90% of the topics, making them rarely asked and thus in\nsore need of answering ...\n\n--\nChris Lilley\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTechnical Author, ITTI Computer Graphics and Visualisation Training Project\nComputer Graphics Unit, Manchester Computing Centre, Oxford Road, \nManchester, UK.  M13 9PL                        Internet: C.C.Lilley@mcc.ac.uk \nVoice: +44 (0)61 275 6045  Fax: +44 (0)61 275 6040 Janet: C.C.Lilley@uk.ac.mcc","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"#\n# Which Article of the Constitution gives me the right of revolution if things\n# seem to be going cockeyed??\n#\n# Hmmm...\n# --\n# Peter G. White, President, Synthesis 93 Inc.\n# Milwaukee, Wisconsin, U.S.A.\n# Peter.White@mixcom.com\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nKNX AM, 1070 in LA, will be unhappy to hear about this, I'm sure. :-) \n\n(isn't KNBR in the bay area?)","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"From \"Management of Electronics Assembly\" (Ian Oakes)\nAfter talking about 63\/37 tin lead alloy and the eutectic point...\n\"Occasionally, impurities may be added to solder, to vary charactersitics \nwithin the soldering process in an attempt to improve performance.  For\nexample, addition of small quantities of antimony and copper can reduce\nthe amount solder moves under stress when solid.  For particular\napplications additions of impurities may be warranted but, in general, it\nis best to keep the solder used in a soldering process as pure as possible.\"\n\nI guess this is the good oil for commercial operations, but it doesn't\nmention anything esoteric.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nnz\tNew Zealand\nau\tAustralia\njp\tJapan\nkr\tKorea\n-- ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nSorry, that's a feature.  The ICCCM specifies how the app should set its title, so the wm is obliged to do it.  If this bothers you, complain to the app writer.\n\n\nWrite your own wm that doesn't support the ICCCM.  Or write an program that you give a window ID and a title.  The your program can set the windows title for the app and then if the app changes it, your program switches it back again.\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I watched the final inning of Bosio's no-hitter with several people at\nwork. After Vizquel made that barehanded grab of the chopper up the\nmiddle, someone remarked that if he had fielded it with his glove, he\nwouldn't have had time to throw Riles out. Yet, the throw beat Riles\nby about two steps. I wonder how many others who watched the final out\nthink Vizquel had no choice but to make the play with his bare hand.\nDoes anybody think Vizquel was wrong to field the ball barehanded? And\nif he failed to field it cleanly, would it (or should it) have been an\nerror or a hit? (Judging from Bosio's grimace when the ball bounced\npast him, he must have thought it would go through for a hit.) Whether\nVizquel was right or wrong, he certainly made one hell of a play.\n\n\n\n--\n--------------------------\nPhil Brown                |\naka pb6755@csc.albany.edu |","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nBandwidth is unlikely to be the problem, except over a wet string network.\nOne of major flaws of X is the horrendous number of transactions (and\nhence process switches) that it forces upon a host.  Actual measurements\n(hourly average) are 5 per second per logged in user, which can lead to\n20-50 or more process switches (depending on whether each event is\nfiltered by the window manager as well as the applications and how\nmany processes are needed for each character.)\n\nWhile a blinking cursor needs only the application and the networking\nprocess, and does not add any transactions, it will add something like\n10 process switches per second per user.  This is a significant increase\nin overhead, especially as the application may have quite a large working\nset.  If you want a rapidly blinking cursor, there could be as many\nas 50.\n\nIf you want to go there, I wouldn't start from here!\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nLet me say that the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ is\ncentral to Christianity. If you personally believe that Jesus Christ\ndied for you, you are a part of the Christian body of believers.\n\nWe are all still human. We don't know it all, but homosexual or heterosexual,\nwe all strive to follow Jesus.  The world is dying and needs to hear about\nJesus Christ.\n\nAre you working together with other Christians to spread the Gospel?","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\tYou are talking about the man who as a federal attorney did so\nmuch to frustrate the proper investigation of the JFK assassination by\nthe House sub-committee on assassinations.  Fox and hen house???\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nHmmmmmm.  $30 seems a bit expensive.  How big is the chip?  What kind\nof packages will be used?  3 volt or 5 volt technology?  How much\ncurrent will it draw?  I think there are many practical questions\nthat haven't been answered, especially since this chip already exists!\n\n\nOK, I've got a big problem with all of this.  How in the world do you\nexpect to sell these chips for even $30 after all the overhead involved\nin this programming procedure?  2-4 people, a laptop, only 300 chips at \na time:  give me a break.  And how long does all of this take?  Even if\nit is a minute per chip, it will take the greater part of a day to \nturn out 300 of these things.  How long do you suppose it will take to\nprogram those 10,000 chips mentioned above?  This is highly impractical!\n\n\nSo where can I find info on this AT&T device?  What kind of vocoder\ndoes it use?  Does it require ISDN phone lines?  If not, is it full\nduplex?  How does it sound?  What kind of synchronization scheme is\nused?  Will all other little black boxes have to conform to AT&Ts choices\nof protocol, etc.?  Will anybody else be allowed to build boxes that\nconform to these specifications?\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"My wife had hives during the first two months\nof her pregnancy.  My son (3 months old), breast-fed,\nnow has the same symptoms.  She has been to a skin-specialist,\nbut he has merely prescribed various medicines (one\neach visit as though by trial and error :-))\n\nAnti-histamines worked on both of them, but looks like\nbecoming less effective.\n\nAre there other solutions?  Thanks.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nDavid, this study looks like a good one.  Gordon Rubenfeld did a Medline \nsearch and also sent me the same reference through e-mail.  Since \ncommercial yogurt does not always have a good Lactobacillus a. or \nbulgaricus culture, a negative finding would not have been too informative.\nThis is often the reason why Lactobacillus acidophilus tablets are \nrecommended rather than yogurt.\n\nI guess the next question is why would this introduction of \"good\" bacteria \nback into the gut decrease the incidence of vaginal candida blooms if the \nanus was not serving as a candida reservoir(a fact that Gordon R. vehementy\ndenys)?  I see two possible theories.  One, the L. acidophilus, which is a \nfacultatively anaerobic bacterium, could make it through the gut and \ncolonize the rectal area to overgrow the candida.  This would not explain \nthe reoccurance of candida blooms in the vagina after the yogurt ingestion \nwas stopped though.  The other is that the additional bacteria in the \nintestinal tract remove most of the glucose from the feces and candida \nlooses it's major food source.\n\nGetting Lactobacillus acidophilus to colonize the vaginal tract(where it is \nnormally found) would have a much better effect on the recurrance of vaginal \nyeast blooms though.  An acetic acid, Lactobacillus acidophilus douche has \nbeen used to get this effect but I've not seen any such treatment reported in \nthe medical literature.  This would be an example of physicians conducting \ntheir own clinical trials to try to come up with treatments that help their \npatients.  When this is done in private practice, the results are rarely, if \never published.  It was the hallmark of medicine until the modern age \nemerged with clinical trials.  It really raises a big question.  Does the \nmedical profession cast out the adventerous few who try new treatments to \nhelp patients or does it look the other way.\n\nThis particular issue is really a very simple one since no real dangerous \ntherapy is involved(even the anti-fungals are not all that dangerous).  But \nthere are some areas(like EDTA chelation therapy), where the fire is pretty \nhot and somebody could get burned.  It's really tough.  Do I follow only \nwell established protocols and then give up if they don't work that well or \ndo it try something that looks like it will work but hasn't been proven to \nwork yet?\n\nMy stand is to consider other treatment possibilities, especially if they \ninvolve little or no risk to the patient.  Getting good bacteria back into \nthe gut after antibiotic treatment is one treatment possibility.  The other \nis getting L. acidophilus into the vaginal tract of a woman who is having a \nproblem with recurring yeast infections.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n   Is it possible through either pin configuration or through software\n   programming to change the IP numbers on an ethernet card?\n\nThe Ethernet card doesn't use the IP number (32-bits, usually\n#.#.#.#); it uses the Ethernet address (48-bits, usually\n#:#:#:#:#:#). I have never run across an Ethernet controller that\ncannot be programmed to use an address that is not assigned to it.\nDECNET requires this feature.\n\nHowever, that said, there is no reason to ever change the Ethernet\naddress.  They are globally unique, the first three bytes being\nassigned to the manufacturer by the IEEE, and the last three by the\nmanufacturer.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI think you mean ARPA; AARP is the American Association of Retired Persons,\nand I seriously doubt that they'd want young whippersnappers building\nanything on their backbones, what with de-calcification and all :-)\n\n\nThe general convention is that if it doesn't have a country tag on it, it's\na US site. That includes:\n\t.com\tcommercial \n\t.edu\teducational \n\t.mil\tUS Military sites \n\t.gov\tUS Gov't non-military sites (eg NASA sites)\n\t.org\tanyone who is \"none of the above\"\nThere are sites with such tags that are non-US sites, but they will have\nthe country extension (eg xxxx.edu.au is an extension I saw today).\nUS sites can also use the .us extension, but, as Mr. Smith pointed \nout, the Internet was built on the ARPANet backbone, and they default\nto US sites if there's no country code.\n\nI would suggest that anyone who didn't know this (or wants to know\nmore about it on a non-system-administrative level) check out\nthe book _The_Whole_Internet_User's_Guide_and_Catalog_ by Ed Krol.\n(or is it Catalog and User's Guide? I can never remember, and my copy\nis my desk at home...). It's a very good not-necessarily-technical\nguide to the Internet and the various utilities that lurk on it (including\nUSENET). I don't think it's part of the Nutshell series, but it is\npublished by O'Reilly and Associates.\n\nThis should go to one of the news.* newsgroups, but damned if I\ncan figure out which one.... :-)\n\n\t\t\t\tJames","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
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{"text":" \n \n \nAfter insult, Gregg resorts to lies:\n \n ","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I was asked to post the team log of this year's winning team in the regular\nseason draft.  Here 'tis:\n\n%begin Dave_Wessels\n...reading team 'Dave_Wessels' from database\n%log all\n\nTeam log:\n\nName\t\t\tTeam\tPoints\tValue\tBought\tWeek\tSold\tWeek\nTrevor Linden           VAN\t72\t72.0\t78.8\tpre\t70.4\t10\nCliff Ronning           VAN\t85\t85.0\t74.6\tpre\t97.8\t6\nRobert Reichel          CGY\t88\t88.0\t58.9\tpre\t51.4\t8\nPat Verbeek             HFD\t82\t82.0\t63.0\tpre\t64.3\t7\nPat Falloon             SJ\t28\t28.0\t62.7\tpre\t46.8\t7\nJohn MacLean            NJ\t48\t48.0\t55.0\tpre\t27.5\t7\nEric Lindros            PHI\t75\t75.0\t55.0\tpre\t105.0\t6\nRick Tocchet            PIT\t109\t109.0\t81.2\tpre\t106.9\t9\nGreg Adams              VAN\t56\t56.0\t63.0\tpre\t93.8\t8\nMike Ricci              QUE\t78\t78.0\t60.3\tpre\t79.8\t6\nJoe Juneau              BOS\t102\t102.0\t55.0\tpre\t110.9\t6\nKevin Hatcher           WSH\t79\t79.0\t57.4\tpre\t54.6\t6\nTeemu Selanne           WPG\t132\t132.0\t55.0\tpre\t109.2\t6\nPavel Bure              VAN\t110\t110.0\t77.5\tpre\t108.9\t8\nDixon Ward              VAN\t52\t52.0\t55.0\tpre\t61.2\t7\nRuss Courtnall          MIN\t79\t79.0\t60.7\t6\t84.6\t14\nDarren Turcotte         NYR\t53\t53.0\t60.7\t6\t72.1\t14\nChristian Ruuttu        CHI\t54\t54.0\t61.9\t6\t52.2\t13\nPetr Nedved             VAN\t71\t71.0\t59.3\t6\t84.5\t12\nPetr Klima              EDM\t48\t48.0\t65.3\t6\t--\t--\nTony Granato            LA\t82\t82.0\t56.0\t6\t75.6\t12\nSteve Duchesne          QUE\t82\t82.0\t88.7\t6\t92.2\t13\nAlexander Mogilny       BUF\t127\t127.0\t103.8\t6\t118.8\t14\nRay Sheppard            DET\t66\t66.0\t55.0\t7\t63.0\t15\nSteve Larmer            CHI\t70\t70.0\t64.9\t7\t79.7\t17\nVincent Damphousse      MTL\t97\t97.0\t64.9\t7\t94.5\t15\nTony Amonte             NYR\t76\t76.0\t63.0\t7\t63.0\t16\nBrendan Shanahan        STL\t94\t94.0\t55.0\t8\t--\t--\nCorey Millen            LA\t39\t39.0\t55.0\t8\t48.9\t16\nJohan Garpenlov         SJ\t66\t66.0\t55.0\t8\t55.9\t15\nKelly Kisio             SJ\t78\t78.0\t63.0\t8\t72.3\t15\nPat Elynuik             WSH\t57\t57.0\t57.0\t9\t56.7\t16\nBenoit Hogue            NYI\t75\t75.0\t61.6\t10\t74.3\t20\nPat Flatley             NYI\t60\t60.0\t55.0\t11\t59.9\t18\nRod Brind'Amour         PHI\t86\t86.0\t74.1\t12\t81.0\t19\nMichal Pivonka          WSH\t74\t74.0\t55.0\t12\t--\t--\nJoe Mullen              PIT\t70\t70.0\t55.0\t12\t--\t--\nJohn Cullen             TOR\t50\t50.0\t55.0\t13\t55.7\t19\nStephane Richer         NJ\t73\t73.0\t55.0\t13\t61.8\t19\nJeff Norton             NYI\t50\t50.0\t64.0\t14\t56.3\t20\nGlenn Anderson          TOR\t65\t65.0\t55.0\t14\t--\t--\nRay Bourque             BOS\t82\t82.0\t65.6\t14\t--\t--\nBernie Nicholls         NJ\t60\t60.0\t72.8\t14\t67.8\t20\nAndrew Cassels          HFD\t85\t85.0\t56.0\t14\t--\t--\nDmitri Kvartalnov       BOS\t72\t72.0\t82.1\t15\t--\t--\nTomas Sandstrom         LA\t52\t52.0\t59.7\t15\t43.6\t22\nJoe Sakic               QUE\t105\t105.0\t109.6\t15\t--\t--\nRob Blake               LA\t59\t59.0\t59.5\t16\t--\t--\nDerek King              NYI\t76\t76.0\t68.3\t16\t70.9\t22\nMichel Goulet           CHI\t44\t44.0\t55.0\t16\t45.4\t23\nMike Modano             MIN\t93\t93.0\t90.5\t17\t--\t--\nDmitri Khristich        WSH\t67\t67.0\t55.0\t18\t--\t--\nAlexander Semak         NJ\t79\t79.0\t62.6\t19\t--\t--\nNikolai Borschevsky     TOR\t74\t74.0\t69.3\t19\t--\t--\nMike Donnelly           LA\t69\t69.0\t70.5\t19\t--\t--\nJeff Brown              STL\t78\t78.0\t69.1\t20\t--\t--\nThomas Steen            WPG\t72\t72.0\t55.0\t20\t--\t--\nKevin Dineen            PHI\t63\t63.0\t55.5\t20\t--\t--\nMario Lemieux           PIT\t160\t160.0\t134.9\t22\t--\t--\nWayne Gretzky           LA\t65\t65.0\t55.0\t23\t--\t--\nYou have 1.9 cash points.\n\nAs of week 28, your team is placed 1 (of 262 teams).\n-- \nAndrew Scott                    | andrew@idacom.hp.com\nHP IDACOM Telecom Operation     | (403) 462-0666 ext. 253","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nCome again? The image-conscious Armenians sorely feel a missing \nglory in their background. Armenians have never achieved statehood \nand independence, they have always been subservient, and engaged \nin undermining schemes against their rulers. They committed \ngenocide against the Muslim populations of Eastern Anatolia \nand x-Soviet Armenia before and during World War I and fully \nparticipated in the extermination of the European Jewry \nduring World War II. Belligerence, genocide, back-stabbing, \nrebelliousness and disloyalty have been the hallmarks of the \nArmenian history. To obliterate these episodes the Armenians \nengaged in tailoring history to suit their whims. In this zeal \nthey tried to cover up the cold-blooded genocide of 2.5 million \nTurks and Kurds before and during World War I.\n\nAnd the justice is long overdue.\n\n\nSource: Documents: Volume I (1919).\n        \"Document No: 50,\" Archive No: 4\/3621, Cabin No: 162, Drawer \n        No: 5, File No: 2905, Section No: 433, Contents No: 6, 6-1, 6-2.\n        (To 36th Division Command - Militia Commander Ismail Hakki)\n\n\"For eight days, Armenians have been forcibly obstructing people from\n leaving their homes or going from one village to the other. Day and night\n they are rounding up male inhabitants, taking them to unknown destinations,\n after which nothing further is heard of them. (Informed from statements\n of those who succeeded in escaping wounded from the massacres around\n Taskilise ruins). Women and children are being openly murdered or are\n being gathered in the Church Square and similar places. Most inhuman and\n barbarous acts have been committed against Moslems for eight days.\"\n \n\n        \"Document No: 52,\" Archive No: 4\/3671, Cabin No: 163, Drawer \n        No: 1, File No: 2907, Section No: 440, Contents No: 6-6, 6-7.\n        (To: 1st Caucasian Army Corps Command, 2nd Caucasian Army Corps\n        Command, Communications Zone Inspectorate - Commander 3rd Army\n        General)\n\n\"As almost all Russian units opposite our front have been withdrawn, the\n population loyal to us in regions behind the Russian positions are\n facing an ever-increasing threat and suppression as well as cruelties\n and abuses by Armenians who have decided to systematically annihilate\n the Moslem population in regions under their occupation. I have \n regularly informed the Russian Command of these atrocities and\n cruelties and I have gained the impression that the above authority\n seems to be failing in restoring order.\"\n\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nDo you mean that MSW3.1 is objectively inferior in _some_ respects (which\nis trivially true), that it is objectively inferior in _all_ respecets\n(which is trivially false) or do you mean something else? What criteria\nhave you chosen for your objective assesment? Are you sure that these\ncriteria are themselves objective?\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"        I had to turn to one of my problem sets that I did in class for this\nlittle problem.  I don't have a calculator, but I DO have the problem set that\nwe did not too long ago, so I'll use that, and hope it's what you wanted.  \nThis is a highly simplified problem, with a very simple burst.  Bursts are\nusually more complex than this example I will use here.\n        Our burst has a peak flux of 5.43E-6 ergs cm^-2 sec^-1 and a duration\nof 8.95 seconds.  During the frst second of the burst, and the last 4 seconds,\nits flux is half of the peak flux.  It's flux is the peak flux the rest of the\ntime.  Assume that the background flux is 10E-7 erg cm^-2 sec^-1.\n        Then we had to find the integrated luminosity of the burst, for several\ndifferent spheres: R=.25pc(Oort Cloud Radius), R=22.5pc(at the edge of the\ngalaxy), R=183.5pc or the edge of the galactic corona, and lastly at a\nR=8800Mpc.  \n        We integrated the flux over all time to find the fluence, then used the\nold standby formula:\n                        Luminosity=4(pi)(r^2)Fpeak\n        For a radius of .25 pc, we found an L around 10^32 erg\/sec.  Pretty\nenergetic for close by.  for the coronal model, we found around 10^43 erg\/sec.\nAnd lastly, for the cosmological model an L=10^53. That's what you'd call\nmoderately energetic, I'd say.  Any suggestions about what could put out that\nmuch energy in one second? \n                                                -jeremy\n\n\n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"    [re a true 24 bit XV]\n\n\nDon't mind if I do.\nAs someone who would _love_ to see XV go to 24 bit, this\nwould be plenty for me.\n\n    a) XV can Load a 24 bit image, and display it in all it's\n24 bit glory on 24 bit X displays.\n    b) All other operations (Crop, Dither, Smooth, etc.) are not\nsupported on 24 bit images.\n\nhow hard would this be?\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"This is a RFD on a proposal for a newsgroup which would promote a \nsharing on the \"Johannine hours\" as proposed each month by the monks of \nthe ecumenical community of Taize (pronounced te-zay) in France.\n\nNAME OF PROPOSED NEWSGROUP: \n==========================\n\nsoc.religion.taize (Unmoderated)\n\n\nPURPOSE OF THE GROUP: \n====================\n\nThe Taize Community is an international ecumenical community of monks \nbased in France. Many young adults come there to search for meaning in \ntheir life and to deepen their understanding of their faith through a \nsharing with others. This newsgroup will allow such a sharing through a \nmonthly \"Johannine Hour\" which will be posted at the beginning of each \nmonth. A \"Johannine hour\" involves a short commentary on a given Bible \npassage, followed by some questions for reflection.  Any thoughts that \nmay arise in consequence and that you wish to share with others can be \nposted here. We are not interested in theological debate, and even less \nin polemics. No expertise is required! The idea is to help one another \nto deepen our understanding of Scripture as it is related to our own \nlife-journey.\n\nThe idea of \"Johannine hours\" was born in Taize as a simple response\nto all those who were trying to assimilate the Bible's message in the\nmidst of their daily life. Because of work or studies, it is often\nimpossible to spend long hours in silence and reflection, but\neveryone can take an hour from time to time to enter a church, sit\nquietly at home or go out for a walk in the woods. There, in silence,\nwe can meditate on a passage of Scripture to listen to the voice of\nChrist.\n\nDuring the time of silence, it is important to concentrate on what we \nunderstand and not waste time worrying if, in some Biblical expressions, \nwe find it difficult to hear the voice of Christ. The idea is to \ncommunicate to others what we have understood of Christ, not burdening \nthem with our own hesitations but rather telling them what has brought \nus joy, what has led us to run the risk of trusting more deeply.\n\nPerhaps those who read and think about the \"Johannine Hours\" in this\nnewsgroup could share their reflections and discoveries with others.\n\nThe important thing is the complementarity between two aspects, the\npersonal aspect of silent, personal reflection and the communal aspect\nof sharing, which through Usenet makes us a part of a worldwide network.\n\nBACKGROUND OF THE TAIZE COMMUNITY:\n=================================\n\nThe following provides some background information on the life and\nvocation of the Taize (pronounced te-zay) community.\n\n\"A PARABLE OF COMMUNION\": August 1940, with Europe in the grip of\nWorld War II, Brother Roger, aged 25, set up home in the almost\nabandoned village of Taize, in Eastern France. His dream: to bring\ntogether a monastic community which would live out \"a parable of\ncommunity\", a sign of reconciliation in the midst of the distress of\nthe time. Centering his life on prayer, he used his house to conceal\nrefugees, especially Jews fleeing from the Nazi occupation.\n\nAN INTERNATIONAL AND ECUMENICAL COMMUNITY: Taize's founder spent the\nfirst two years alone. Others joined him later and at Easter 1949,\nseven brothers committed themselves together to common life and\ncelibacy. Year by year, still others have entered the community, each\none making a lifelong commitment after several years of preparation.\nToday, there are 90 brothers, Catholics and from various Protestant\nbackgrounds, from over twenty different countries. Some of them are\nliving in small groups in poor neighbourhoods in Asia, Africa, North\nand South America. The brothers accept no donations or gifts for\nthemselves, not even family inheritances, and the community holds no\ncapital. The brothers earn their living and share with others\nentirely through their own work. In 1966, Sisters of Saint Andrew, an\ninternational Catholic community founded 750 years ago, came to live\nin the neighbouring village, to share the responsibility of welcoming\npeople in Taize.\n\nTAIZE AND THE YOUNG; THE INTERCONTINENTAL MEETINGS: Young adults, and\nless young, have been coming to Taize in ever greater numbers since\n1957. Hundreds of thousands of people from Europe and far beyond have\nthus been brought together in a common search. Intercontinental\nmeetings take place each week, Sunday to Sunday, throughout the year\nand they include youth from between 35 and 60 countries during any\none week. The meetings give each person the opportunity to explore\nthe roots of their faith and to reflect on how to unite the inner\nlife and human solidarity. The meetings in summer can have up to\n6,000 participants a week. Three times every day, the brothers and\neverybody on the hill come together for common prayer in the Church\nof Reconciliation, built in 1962 when the village church became too\nsmall.\n\n\"A PILGRIMAGE OF TRUST ON EARTH\" The community has never wanted to\ncreate a \"movement\" around itself. Instead, people are called to\ncommit themselves in their church at home, in their neighbourhood,\ntheir city or village. To support them in this, Taize has created\nwhat it calls \"a pilgrimage of trust on earth\". At the end of each\nyear, the pilgrimage has a \"European meeting\" which brings together\ntens of thousands of young adults from every part of Europe for\nseveral days in a major city. There have also been meetings in Asia\nand in the United States. Every year, Brother Roger writes an open\nletter to the young. Usually completed during a stay in one of the\npoor regions of the world, these are translated into thirty languages\nand provide themes for reflexion for the following year.\n\nNOTE:  Discussion on the creation of this newsgroup will take place in \n       news.groups.\n\nFor any further information contact: Brother.Roy@almac.co.uk\n\n               brother.roy@almac.co.uk","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nYes Russ, there is. \nQuinZip is a Windows version but I don't think it handles\nall the functions available in the DOS version.\n\nLast I looked QuinZip could be found on the Monash University (Australia)\nmirror site of Cica, so I'd assume it's still on Cica itself\nand other mirrors.\n\nHave a look in the \/util(s?) directory for a file called\nqzip21.zip.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":": >\tI have an Ethernet card that i took out off an old LC. The card\n: >\tis manufactured by Asante. On it i can read:\n: >\t\"Asante Tech, inc. Copyright 1991. MACCON + LC REV.B\".\n: >\tThe card has an fpu socket on it. It provides thin Ethernet connector\n: >\tand there's another connector on it which resembels to phone connectors.\n: >\n: >\tMy questions are:\n: >\t- Will this card work on any other model than LC-serie ?, given that\n: >\tit's a PDS card, will it work with the IIsi PDS slot ?. I think there\n: >\tmay be a probleme because the LC has 16 bit wide slots.\n: It probably won't work with any other LC.  The ones I have for the LC II\n: are Rev. D.  No, it won't work in the IIsi's PDS slot since it's a 68030\n: PDS, while the LC has the 68020 PDS.  The IIsi and SE\/30 share the same\n: kind of card.\n\n  Ok, i see. Does Asante propose any upgrade for their cards ?. Do they have\n  an email adress so i can ask them directly ?. Their Phone number will be\n  Ok, even if i pay the overseas call i'm really willing to know what to do\n  with this card.\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"From article <1993Apr27.004240.24401@csi.jpl.nasa.gov>, by eldred@rrunner.jpl.nasa.gov (Dan Eldred):","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nNow, while I wouldn't recommend doing this while moving,\n\n(Maybe Mike Beaverton can complain to you awhile! :\/ )\n\nyou might not want to countersteer if you're just sitting\nin the driveway...\n\n<sounds of Rick falling off bike, muttering, \"Damn, coulda\nsworn that's how they told me in the MSF course!!?\" >\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Hi, there,\n    I'm trying to build X11R5 mit core distribution on a SparcStation running\nSunOS 4.1.1. The only thing I change is the ProjectRoot in site.def. When the\n\"make World\" process goes to \"cc -o xdm ...\", I get the following error:\n\nld: Undefined symbol\n   __C0095A2A\n*** Error code 2\n\nAnd the process continues to finish. Does anybody know what's wrong? Thanx for\nany info.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I solved my problem.  I still do not understand why it happens ths\nway; perhaps some of you C++ gurus can explain this to all of us!\n\nFor some reason when I define the following functins in the class\ndefinition (in the .h file) the compiler thinks some pure virtual\nfunctions are not defined.  When I placed these two in a separate\nsource file and compiled them, the problem went away.  Any ideas what\nhappen?  Are the functions that are defined in the class construct all\ninline ?  Is this the problem?\n\nvirtual int            isEqual (const Object _FAR &obj) const\n{ return this == &(HashEntry&) obj; }\n\nvirtual void           printOn( Rostream os) const\n{\n os << \"[ HWindow is \" << (void _FAR *) hWindow << \" ]\\n\"; \n}\n--","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"These are MY last words on the subject\n\n\n\n\nSome people think it enhances the flavor.  I personally don't think it\nhelps the taste, it makes me sick, so I try to avoid it.\n\n\n\nWell, I know that MSG effects ME adversely - maybe not permanently but\nat least temporarily enough that I like to try to avoid the stuff.\n\n\n\nEXCUSE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!\n\nWhy can't people learn to cook from scratch *ON* the net.  I've gotten\nLOTS of recipes off the net that don't use additives.\n\nIf you LIKE additives then get off the net and go to your local\nsupermarket, buy lots of packaged foods, and YOU get OFF THE NET!!\n\n\nI don't!!\n\n\nHEY - I'll pay *MY* hard earned dollars to buy food that costs more\nbut does NOT have preservatives.  I choose to speak with my pocketbook\nin many ways.\n\n\n\nNacho cheese Doritos, breading for MANY frozen fried foods (like fish\nand chicken), etc. ad naseum.\n\n\nOr the \"and other natural flavorings syndrome.\"  It's been a few years\nsince I've bought anything labelled with \"and other natural\nflavorings\".  \n\n\n\nWell, I had had similar reactions many times.  That was when I really\nstarted WATCHING CAREFULLY - reaction to Doritos - hey guess what's in\nthere - reaction to Lawry's season salt - guess what's in THERE\n\nI'll give you a hint - I've had enough problems with MANY MANY MANY\ndifferent products with MSG that I figured out one thing.\n\nUNLESS I plan on getting sick - I won't eat the stuff without my\nSeldane.  And did I ever learn to read labels.\n\n\nWhich was why I started checking EVERY time I got sick.  And EVERY\ntime I got sick MSG was somehow involved in one of the food products.\nAnd consider there were no other similar ingredients (to my knowledge)\n- it might not please a medical researcher - but it pleased my own\npersonal physician enough for him to give me allergy medicine and MOST\nIMPORTANTLY it's enough proof for ME to avoid it (and enough proof\nthat my INCREDIBLY frugal fiance didn't flinch when I literally threw\nout or gave away all the food products in his pantry that had msg -\nand he always flinches when there's waste - but it was a simple\nexplanation - I won't eat this stuff, I WON'T cook with this stuff, so\nI can either throw it out or give it away.)\n\n\n\nProbably Lawry's seasoning salt.  I LOVE the way that tastes.  \n\nI'm not saying I NEVER consume ANYTHING with MSG.  I've noticed that I\nhave a certain tolerance level - like a (small) bag of bbq chips once\na month or so it not a problem - but that same bag of chips will\nbother me if I also had chicken bouillon yesterday and lunch at one of\nthe Chinese restaurants the day before.  \n\n\n\nBut - some say that only 2% of the population has a problem with MSG -\nsome say it's more like 20% - but let's say that it's 5%.  How many\npeople would have to be tested that would have a problem?  Also - I\nKNOW I have a problem with it, and I wouldn't VOLUNTEER for a test.\nLike thanks guys but I don't WANT to get sick.  Also - I'm sure that\nmost people probably have varying degrees of sensitivities at\ndifferent times.  If I have a cold I'm MUCH more susceptible to the\nreaction than when I'm healthy (as proven today - when I'm stuffy but\nfor some silly reason I still gave in and decided to have the BBQ\nchips ;}).\n\n\n\nCathy doesn't - I haven't saved all my postings but I NEVER called it\n\"chinese restaurant syndrome\" and I NEVER stated I got it only from\nChinese food.  I just thought it would be easiest to conduct my\npersonal test at a Chinese take out place that I knew would hold (or\nnot hold) the MSG.  I can't call up whoever makes Doritos and ask them\nto make me ONE back of chips without MSG.\n\n\nWell, I believe I mentioned that in an earlier post \n\nLet's see you wrote this message at\n\nDate: 20 Apr 1993 00:09:31 -0500\n\nbut on \n\nDate: 19 Apr 1993 16:33:18 GMT\n\n\n\n\nOH - and just in case anyone thinks I'm prejudice against either\nChinese food or Asian people - I'm not going home to cook some Chinese\nfood for the guy I'm marrying next week.  Incidentally, his last name\nis Wu.\n\nSO STOP IT WITH THE FLAME MAIL\n\n--\nWhy does a woman work ten years to change a man's habits and then \ncomplain that he's not the man she married?    \n  -- Barbra Streisand","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I have the following Laser Discs forsale.  All are in original covers.  They are all in excellent condition,  I've watched them so many times and I can't see myself watching them again.  I'm asking $20 per disc.\n\nTerminator\nRoad Warrior\nHook\nGhost\nRobo Cop\nRepo Man\nRomancing the Stone\nLost Boys\nDark Man\nRobinhoood Prince of Thieves\nTotal Recall","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Really when you come down to it who cares. I just hope MS keeps doing\nwhat they do best getting usable productive software to the masses.\nThx Dave L\n\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"   Surely you are not equating David Koresh with Christianity? The two are\n   not comparable.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Small Comic Collection For Sale.\n\nAll issues are NM unless otherwise noted.  Prices are flexible for large\npurchases.  Buyer pays shipping.\n\nNM+ means the comic was ordered and bagged with backing upon arrival, and has\n*never* been read or opened.  Numbers in parenthesis represent the number of\nmultiple copies.\n\n60% Graded Price\n----------------\n\nFantasy Masterpieces (Silver Surfer, second series)\n\t#8 NM-\nFirestorm (original series)\n\t#1 F\n\t 2-5 F\nThe Fury of Firestorm (second series)\n\t#3,6\nHuman Fly\n\t#1 VF\nHuman Torch\n\t#1 VF-\nIndiana Jones\n\t#2 NM+\nKazar\n\t#19-21\nLegion of Super Heroes\n\t#293 VF\nMachine Man\n\t#8,9 G\t\t(2001: A Space Oddessy, origin of)\n\t 1 F\n\t 6 F\nMicronauts\n\t#1 VF\n\t 19,20,46,47\nNew Gods\n\t#1 F\n\t 19 F\nOutsiders\n\t#3,4 NM+\nRagman\n\t#5 F\nRom\n\t#1 VF\n\t 4 VF\nSecret Origins (Blue Beetle)\n\t#2\nSecret Wars II\n\t#2-5 VF\n\t 6 (2) NM+\n\t 8\n\t 9 (2)\nShade, The Changing Man (original series)\n\t#1 VG\n\t 2,5 VG\nThing\n\t#26-30 VF\nThor \n\t#361 VF\nThe Mighty Thor\n\t#13 (dbl iss)\n\n\n75% Graded Price\n----------------\n\nAmbush Bug Stocking Stuffer\n\t#1\nAvengers\n\t#259-262\n\t 263\n\t 264-267\nBatman & The Outsiders\n\t#29,30\nBeauty & The Beast (4-issues)\n\t#1-2 NM-\nCloak & Dagger\n\t#1 VF+\/NM-\n\t 2-5\nDaredevil\n\t#192(5), 193 NM+\n\t 221-225 NM+\nDeadman (Haney & Adams)\n\t#7\nDeadman (Helfer & Lopez, 4-issue limited series)\n\t#1\nDoctor Strange\n\t#74\nFantastic Four\n\t#281-284 VF\n\t 286 VF\n\t 287-290 VF\nFirestar (4-iss)\n\t#1(2) NM+\nHercules (4-iss)\n\t#1(2), 2, 3 (2)\n\t 4 VF (date stamp)\nIron Man\n\t#98,102 F\n\t 126,127 VF\n\t 197-199\n\t 200 NM+ (dbl iss)\n\t 202\n\t 203 (2)\n\t 204,205\nLaser Eraser and Pressbutton (Eclipse)\n\t#1 (2)\nMarvel Fanfare (Epic)\n\t#7\nMarvel Universe\n\t#2 NM+\n\t 4,5 NM+\nMoonshadow (Epic, 12-issues)\n\t#6,7\nNightcrawler (4-iss)\n\t#1(2)\n\t 2,3\nSquadron Supreme (12-iss)\n\t#1 VF\n\t 2,3,4,6,7\nVision & The Scarlet Witch (4-iss)\n\t#1 (4) NM+\nVision & The Scarlet Witch (12-iss)\n\t#1 NM-\n\t 2-5\nX-Men & Alpha Flight (2-iss)\n\t#1\n\n\n85% Graded Price\n----------------\n\nAlien Legion (Epic, 12-issues)\n\t#10\nAlpha Flight\n\t#1 NM-\n\t 2\n\t 3,10\n\t 19,22-24\n\t 25-26 (2)\n\t 27,28\n\t 29-30\n\t 31 (2)\n\t 32\nCrisis on Infinite Earths\n\t#5-6\n\t 7\n\t 8\n\t 9-10(2),11\n\t 12(2)\nDaredevil (Miller written and drawn)\n\t#187,188,189(2) NM+\nElfquest (Warp, third printing)\n\t#1 NM-\nHulk (both Byrne)\n\t#314 (2)\n\t 318\nMarc Spector: Moon Knight\n\t#1\n\t 3 (4)\n\t 4 (3)\n\t 5-6 (2)\nNew Mutants\n\t#22-30\n\t31-37,40,54,55\nX-Factor\n\t#2 (2)\nX-Men\n\t#138\n\t 163 VF\n\t 167\n\t 168 (2)\n\t 196,199\n\n\nSerious inquiries only\n----------------------\n\nAlpha Flight\n\t#17\t\tX-Men crossover\n\t 33\t\tWolverine appearance\nDaredevil\n\t#226 NM+\tMiller plot\n\t 227 NM+\tMiller script starts\n\t 228 NM+\tMiller\nTeenage Mutant Ninja Turtles\n\t#1 (3) NM+ (second printing, comic size)\n\t 4 (7) NM+ (first printing, magazine size)\n\t 5 (4) NM+ (first printing, comic size)\n\tMichelangelo #1 (9) NM+ (original printing)\n\tFugitoid #1 (3) NM+ (original printing)\n\tRaphael #1 NM+ (original printing)\nX-Factor\n\t#1 (5) NM+\nX-Men & The New Teen Titans (Marvel\/D.C. crossover, w\/Darkseid)\n\t#1 NM-","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"  [...]\n\nSome of the Davidians *are* black.\n\nNext question?\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"DK>.@SUBJECT:VHS Movies [must sell because I am moving]                  N\nDK>.@FROM   :koutd@hiramb.hiram.edu                                      N\nDK>Newsgroups: misc.forsale,rec.video\nDK>Subject: VHS Movies [must sell because I am moving]\nDK>Message-ID: <1993Apr22.095736.1@hiramb.hiram.edu>\nDK>From: koutd@hiramb.hiram.edu (DOUGLAS KOU)\nDK>Date: 22 Apr 93 09:57:36 -0500\nDK>Organization: Hiram College\n\nDK>Those VHS movies have to be sold because I am moving in 6 weeks.\nDK>And I have no idea what happend to those people who made the\nDK>deal with me before. So here I am, trying to post another message,\nDK>againt. ( I don't mean to waste your valuable time.)\n\nDK>Basic Instinct                  $11.00\nDK>Born on the Forth of July       $11.00\nDK>Backdraft                       $11.00\nDK>Presumed Innocent               $11.00\nDK>The Prince of Tides             $11.00\nDK>Dance of Wolves                 $11.00\n\nDK>All the prices are including shipping. You get all of them for\nDK>$60.00.\n\nDK>Package deals are very welcome...\n\nDK>So make me an offer...\n\nDK>Douglas Kou\nDK>Hiram College\nDK>koutd@hirama.hiram.edu\nDouglas,\n     Hi, I'd like to purchase \"Basic Instinct\" for $11.  All of my other\n     notes to you have been returned.  I don't know why.  It  keeps\n     saying address unknown.  Please let me know if this movie is still\n     available.  Thank you.\n        Jordan McAuley in Atlanta\n        dita@info-gw.blackwlf.mese.com\n---\n . SLMR 2.0 . \n                                                                         ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI use WD-40.\n\n\n\n\n\n\nTry WD-40.\n\n\n\n\n\nXavier\n\n\n\n\n\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Howdy,\n\nI recently upgraded the original BIOS in a Compaq Deskpro 286\/12\nwith a Phoenix replacement BIOS, in order to support an IDE hard drive,\nand a high-density 3.5\" floppy.\n\nI assumed that this would be a plug-and-play procedure, but I have\nencountered a problem that Phoenix and Compaq are unwilling to admit\nresponsibilty for, and I was wondering if anyone else had seen it.\n\nEverything is hunky-dory except the 3.5\" floppy, which will read, but NOT\nWRITE diskettes.  Any write attempt merely corrupts both FATs.\n\nI have tried everything I can think of.\n\nAny takers?","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Does anybody have an idea how to model a tunnel diode on SPICE?\nThank you.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Excerpts from rec.autos: 26-Apr-93 Re: REVIEW: 1989 Ford Tauru.. by Mark\nW. Rice@mozart.Colu \ndavid.bonds@cutting.hou.tx.us (Dav\n\nOne more way, which works in manual trans cars I've driven, and it is my\npersonal favorite (the other suggestions above are great, but try this\none, too).  \n\nWhile pushing the shifter *gently* towards reverse, let the clutch out\nslowly (right to the friction point) and the shifter will be pulled into\nposition. If you do it right, the car won't jump backward, nor will the\ngears grind.... You will just glide back.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Can anyone tell me where to find a standard VESA display driver that will \nsupport the on-the-motherboard XGA video of a 486 50Mz DX2 IBM Model 95\n(8595-0LF)?  I need to use 640 x 480 and higher resolutions under both \nWindows 3.1 and MS-DOS.  Minimum colors 256 at highest resolution, with 64K \ncolors needed at 640 x 480.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nRight?  What right?  And don't you mean something more like: It so\ntypical that the wants of the minority can obstruct the wants of the\nmajority, no matter how ridiculous those minority wants might be or\nwhat benefits those majority wants might have?\n\n[My sole connection with the project is that I spent a lot of time in\nclasses at the University of Colorado.]\n\n-- \n\"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live\n in the real world.\"   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nIf he gives you the same story explaining the presence of several\nsynagogues in the \"Moslem Quarter\", then the story becomes suspect...\n\nIn reality, the Old City was not as neighborhooded in the past as it\nbecame after 1948.  In pre-Israel Jerusalem, there were many Jews in\nwhat is now called the Moslem Quarter.  There are postal and telephone\ndirectories from that time to prove it.  It's really rather\ninteresting to hear Arabs there claim that a house or store has been\nin the family for centuries even when there are clear photos and\ndocuments that show a Jewish-owned business at the same location just\na few decades ago.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nLooking at your discussion I would say that you both operate\nfrom your own reference frame. There's no inside and no outside,\nthere are just two polarized views. As for statements inside the\nBible, things are still not that clear, we don't have any indications\nfor instance why Jobs was placed in the Old Testament, one of the \nfew books that actually talks about Satan. Jobs is very much out\nof line with the rest of the OT books, and there's a chance that\nsomeone added this book later into the group of OT scriptures.\n\n\nThis operates the other way around as well. You have to understand\nthe mind of an atheist, agnostic, or as in my case, a radical\nrelativist. If you don't understand the underlying concepts, it is \npretty hard to continue with a dialogue. I'm not a perfect Christian,\nhowever about 20+ years of Christian teaching should have provided\nme with a pretty good picture of the Christian mind frame.\n\nCheers,\nKent\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThe May issue of PC\/Computing page 246 has a Windows hint and tips for\njust this thing.  You have to edit the WIN.INI file and add a couple\nof lines.  I tried it and it works.  I actually made my Title bar\nand iconized text, and icon text smaller.  On my monitor it works well.\nYou can select a larger font also.  You edit the WIN.INI file with\na font name in your system directory.  Read the article because I would\nnot want to retype it here in case I type errored and caused your\nsystem problems.\n\nC-ya..... \/\\\/\\artin","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I like the Clark-WIlliams-Bonds order.\nPitchers can only walk Clark with 2 outs (unlike last year).\n\nWilliams is getting better pitches to hit with Bonds looming\nin the on-deck circle.  Since Matt has a terrible batting eye,\nthis helps the Giants a lot.\n\nWhen Bonds gets on base all by himself, he can try to steal 2nd\nand then be driven in with a single by Thompson, Manwaring, or Clayton.\n\nIf you bat Bonds before the other sluggers, then you don't want\nhim to run because a \"caught stealing\" could take you out of a\nbig inning.\n\nAlso Bonds is less in need of protection behind him because he\nis such a good base stealer (a walk is a potential double).\n\nThe only draw back is when Clark and Williams are clogging up the \nbases infront of Bonds... and I think that's a problem the \nGiants will be glad to see especially if Robby Thompson gets hot.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nWhen they're not important, yes.  All scientists do.  Otherwise science would\nnever get anywhere.\n\n\nHang about -- not atomic interactions in general.  Just specific ones which\nare deemed unimportant.  Like gravitational interactions between ions, which\nare so small they're drowned out by electrostatic effects, and so on.\n\n\nOh, probably.  They still make people memorize equations and IR spectra. \nMaybe in a few decades they'll discover the revolutionary \"data book\"\ntechnique.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Article #61175 (61302 is last):\nFrom: qwerty@tunisia.ssc.gov (Kris Schludermann)\nSubject: HELP:IDE Drive installation problems\nDate: Thu Apr 22 12:11:58 1993\n\nI'm having trouble with installing a second IDE drive on a Promise IDE caching\ncontroller. The first drive is a conner 3204 and works fine. The second drive\nis a conner 30174, it is currently unjumpered  to be the slave drive. The\nproblem is the slave drive is recognized but is reported back as having no\nfree space. Disabling cache has made no effect. What else should I check for?\n\nkrispy\nEnd of File, Press RETURN to quit\n\nKrispy,\nLets start with what Promise controller that you have. Ther are only\nabout 4 or 6 of them made. The one that I have the DC-99m needs\nnothing done but install it as stated. As to the 2th. hd you do know\nabout running FDISK on it and partisitions and then formatting it\nafter your finished with the fdisk operation right!....Sam","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Boy are you going to look silly in a couple of weeks.\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I have an old Apple RGB Monitor for a IIGS which\nlooks a whole lot like the 12\" Monitor.  I have the\nsneaking suspicion that if I had the right cable I\ncould use it on my Mac.\n\nDoes anyone know if my suspicions are correct or\nam I just full of it.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I understand Robert Centor has a program called ROC ANALYZER, that can be\nused to do receiver operating characteristic (ROC) curve analysis. Does \nanyone know if this is avaliable from an FTP site? If not, does anyone\nknow how to get a copy of it?\n\n==============================","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Tonight will see the Toronto Maple Leafs, as some have guessed, come out \nhitting!  The \"Buds\" will grind Detroit into the ground and walk away with \nhome ice advantage for the remainder of the series... which given a shift to \nToronto, will not last long.  (Keep in mind this is only a predicition).  \nWendall will have to get into the game however otherwise Probert will \ndominate on the physical front.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I came. I lurked. I read the FAQ.\n\nNow having purchased the recommended books, and having taken to heart the advice that\none knows nothing about crypto without having done a stint as a cryptanalyst, I would like\nto correspond with people interested in cryptology.\n\nI am working on implementing the cryptanalyst's workbench example in Booch's OOD with\nApplications. I hope to start sending ciphers back and forth so each of us can practice cracking\nthem.  I would like to start with simple Ceaser's ciphers and progress roughly according to\nDavid Kahn's book. Of course I would be interested in general discussions and math also.\n\nI hope to have some foriegn correspondants so that we can test the response time of the\n\"men in the suits\" I've been hearing so much about. Unfortunately as a product of the American\neducation system I only know English.\n\nLooking forward to any and all responses.\n\nJames","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Apparently, the only place to take the MSF course around\nhere in NC is at a community college.\n\nThat woudl preclude some sort of state\nsubsidation, then, no?\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I have a fairly severe high frequency hearing loss. A recent rough test\nshowed a gently sloping loss to 10-20db down at 1000cps. Then it falls off\na cliff to 70-80dbs down from 1500cps on.  This type of loss is difficult\nto fit. I am currently using some old siemens behind the ear aids which\nkeep me roughly functional, but leave a lot to be desired.\n\nRecently I had an opportunity to test the Widex Q8 behind the ear aids for\nseveral weeks. These have four independent programs which are intended to\nbe customized for different hearing situations and can be reprogramed. I\nfound them to be a definite improvement over my current aids and was about\nto go ahead with them until another local outfit advertised a free trial of\nanother programmable system called ReSound.\n\nUnfortunately I was only able to try the ReSound aids in their office for\nabout 30 minutes and I couldn't compare them 'head to head' with the Widex.\nNevertheless, it did appear to me that they were superior and I was\nimpressed by what I was able to read about the theory behind them which I\nwill give in a separate posting. They also carry the Widex aids and had one\npatient (presumably wealthy) who decided to go ahead and get the ReSound\neven though he had purchased the Widex only 6 months ago.\n\nThe problem is that the ReSound aids are about twice as expensive as the\nWidex and other programmable aids. I could take a trip to Europe on the\ndifference!  Being a lover of bargains and hating to spend money, I am\nhaving a hard time persuading myself to go with the ReSounds. I would\nappreciate any opinions on this and other hearing aids and projections\nabout when and if I might see improvements in technology that aren't quite\nso expensive.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Can anyone out there tell me Babe Ruth's complete pitching stats? I know he\nwas 5-0 as a pitcher for the Yankees, but what were his numbers when he was\nwith the Red Sox? Thanks in advance!","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I have a 105MB IDE drive and am having a few problems! I get \n'Data error on drive C' messages when reading some files. The problem is\nalso steadily getting worse.\n\nI have run some diagnostic software (PCTools V7.1) and it says that the\ndrive is OK - but it does have to retry some sectors and it briefly \nflashes up an error message (which is too quick to read).\n\nDoes anybody know of any cheap or free software which could mark these\nsectors as bad (DOS doesn't) or preferably perform a low level format.\nI have heard that the latter is possible on an IDE. Technical answers\nwould be appreciated. It would be nice to be able to use the disk again!!!","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":" \n \n\nAnton LaVey's interpretation of Satanism has always puzzled me.  I\nread his \"Satanic Bible\" a few years ago for a social studies project,\nas well as a book by Arthur Lyons called \"The Cult of Devil Worship\nin America.\"  The latter included a very interesting interview with\nthe Black Pope in which he did indeed say that Satan was merely an\ninstrument for one to realize the self.  \n\nWhen I refer to Satanism, I am referring to the mishmash of rural Satanic\nritualism and witchcraft which existed before the Church of Satan.  I\ndon't consider LaVey's church to be at all \"orthodox,\" nor do I consider\nits followers \"satanists.\"  LaVey combined the philosophies of Nietzsche,\nCrowley, and Reich, slapped in some religious doctrine, added a little\ntouch of P.T. Barnum, and christened his creation the Church of Satan.\nNo doubt the title was a calculated attempt to attract attention...I\nsuppose he could have just as easily called it the Church of Free Sex.\n\nAt any rate, it worked (for a while).  In its heyday, the Church had a\nhuge following, including such Hollywood celebrities as Sammy Davis, Jr.\nand Jayne Mansfield.  (I have a picture of LaVey with Sammy, by the \nway.)  \n\nI find the idea of a Satanist not believing in Satan about as credible as\na Christian not believing in Christ.  But if you include the Church of\nSatan, then I suppose I need to alter my definition.  Webster's Dictionary\nand The American Heritage Dictionary will have to do the same.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I have a brand new, never used 12 inch mac to scsi cable for sale.  I'm\nasking for $15 + shipping......tell me if this is too high....i don't think\nit is..\n\n\n+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+\n\n \/~~~~~~~\\\n\\_____    |\n      |   | TTTTTT EEEEE VV     VV EEEEE     |\n      |   |   TT   EE     VV   VV  EE        |\n \/---\/    |   TT   EEEE    VV VV   EEEE      | Steve Liu                    |","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Hello again,\n\nAbout a week and one-half ago I posted a query looking for people feelings\non the inkjet family of printers.  Specifically, a comparison between the\nCanon BJ200 (BubbleJet) and the Hewlett-Packard DeskJet 500.  Many people\nasked me to post the summary\/account of all the postings and e-mail I\nreceived.  Below is my original query and the responses I received.  I have\nnot deleted any part of the responses, only the headers and signatures, so\nyou can extract what you find necessary.  Some people asked me for an\nunbiased account; however, the very nature of the question suggests\nfavoritism and biased comments, you must extract the information you\nbelieve unbiased and a fair representation of each printer.  There are a\nwide range of comments, each has its own value.  \n\nThere was no clear winner, some like the BJ200 (especially its\nprice\/performance ratio), others preferred the durability and reliability\nof the DeskJet (the original inkjet with proven drivers and a solid\nbackground).  Two new inkjet printers have drawn some attention, a new\nprinter to be introduced by Hewlett-Packard later this year (around\nsummertime), and an addition to the Epson product line (their first\ninkjet).  You will find that after the initial purchase, the costs of\nre-filling or replacing the ink cartridges are about the same (this largely\ndepends on where you purchase the re-fills or replacements -- so shop\naround first since this aspect will most likely dominate the cost of your\nprinter).  No one mentioned approx. how many sheets each ink cartridge will\nprint, but I suspect they are roughly equal at about 1000 - 1500 sheets\n(laser printers will do 4000-5000 sheets per toner cartridge).  Well,\nthat's a brief research summary of my personal research.  ENJOY!\n\n===========================================================================\n\n\nWell I bought the BJ 200 about a month ago at the start of their $50 rebate\nprogram on that printer (it ends 5\/31), and I bought it from Computer\nDiscount Warehouse because their price of $325 couldn't be beat anywhere I\nlooked, and I think it's a HOT printer.  Just using regular copier paper\nproduced fantastic results just in high quality mode.  I compared the\noutput of a Micrografx Designer legal size drawing with 4pt type done on my\nBJ 200 with the same drawing printed on an HP Laserjet IID and I was amazed\nhow well I could read the small print on the BJ 200.  Printing speed was\nseveral seconds faster on the BJ 200 which is amazing considering that the\nHP has 2.5M ram installed.  I measured the time from when the printer first\nindicated it was receiving data (as I used print manager in Windows).\n\nI showed the output to several people at work and one manager bought one\nimmediately for his office, and two other engineers placed their orders\ntoo.  If you need CDW's phone number, it's 800-598-4239.  Delivery to NY\nwas two days.\n\nGood luck!\n\n\nCraig Witkowski, CENG51@maccvm.corp.mot.com\nMotorola Communications & Electronics Inc.\nGlen Rock,  NJ\n\n===========================================================================\n\nI own a Deskjet 500. Performance isn't spectacular under Windows using\nTrueType fonts but neither is the Canon from what I have seen. Quality for\nthe HP is very much dependent on paper quality - on 'standard' photo-copy\npaper the characters have slightly 'frayed' edges but on better quality\n'distinction' type paper things look better. For most applications I find\ncopy paper fine - still better than dot-matrix.  Comes with a Windows\ndriver, which seems to by-pass print manager, has a few\n'intelli-fonts'which are HP scaleable fonts - probably faster than TrueType\nbut haven't really tried them out. Can get RAM & FONT cartridges but unless\nthe speed of TrueType is a problem I wouldn't bother. The RAM cartridges\ncan't be used as buffer - soft fonts only.\n\nFor graphics, i.e. BMP images etc the HP can be put into a dither mode via\nthe HP supplied Win driver. There a number of dither options such as\n'scatter', 'pattern' etc.  The manual gives recommendations depending on\nthe type of image being printed.  Text is not so good in this mode. Problem\narises when you have a document which contains both graphic and text.  The\nrange of tones for graphic images isn't brilliant but I think that is more\nof a limitation with inkjet printers in general.\n\n\nHowever, a printer definitely worth looking at is the new inkjet from\nEpson.  This printer is faster, cheaper, and capable of producing\nlaser-like quality on normal copier paper.  Can't remember the model #, LX\n- something I think?\n\nI purchased my HP days before the Epson was released here :-{.  The\nintroductory price on the Epson was the same as the HP here in New Zealand.\n \n===========================================================================\n\nAbout a month ago, I got a Canon BJ200.  I absolutely LOVE it.  It is\nincredibly fast, except for printing from PSPICE (I don't know if you ever\ndo stuff with that or not.)  Most of the stuff I print is either from\nMicrosoft Word for Windows or just plain text.  The only problems I've had\nare printing headers\/footers (the printer freaked out), and printing on\ncheap paper (lots of streaks).  Normal copy paper works great with it, you\ncan only tell it's not laser-printed by holding it, oh, less than twelve\ninches from your face.  (That is, if you're nearsighted, like me! :) ) The\nprinter comes with its own driver for Windows 3.1!!  I have no other\ncomplaints.  The printer also can act just like some EPSON or another for\nthose archaic software packages that haven't written a driver for it yet.\nThe teeny-weeny footprint is a real plus, too--AND, if you purchase it\nbetween now and May 31, you get a $50 rebate from Canon!!  I bought mine\nfrom a store called CompUSA, and the price now is $340.  I have a friend\nwho has the HP you are looking at.  It also prints very well, and everyone\nhas drivers for it, BUT it is VERY slow!\n\nHope I helped!\n\n(360dpi sure looks great!)\n\nHeather Stehman\n\n===========================================================================\n\n\n  I guess I have some experience with both: I have a BJ-300 at work and a\nDeskjet 500 at home.  I prefer the Deskjet.  The printing speed and quality\nare similar (I tested both with text and graphics before buying the Deskjet\nfor home).  The feature that sets the Deskjet apart is the driver support\nin so many applications.  The BJ ends up emulating the Epson LQ or IBM\nProprinter to get it to work with many non-windows apps and this will be\nthe case for a long time.  The design is superior if you just want to use\ncut paper, the Deskjet is quieter, AND the ink cartridges are quite a bit\ncheaper due to the number of Deskjets out there in comparision to the BJs.\n\n  Just my $0.02 worth..\n\n-- \nMike Mattix\nAgricultural Group of Monsanto\nP.O. Box 174\nLuling, LA 70070\nINTERNET Address: dmmatt@bigez.monsanto.com\n\n===========================================================================\n\n  Yes, there is the landscape mode printing problem, but it does not\npresent a problem in Windows as the Windows printer driver handles the\ntranslation.  I actually thought of some other points after I posted the\nnote.  The Deskjet has an unprintable area of approximately .5inch around\nthe paper the Bubblejet does not.  You are right about the graphics\nresolutions, I tested the printers with the applications I had access to:\nWordperfect, Harvard Graphics, WinGIF, Paintshop PRO, and Paintbrush and\ncould not tell a difference.  In fact one of the HP Deskjet Windows drivers\ngives you significant control over the contrast and density of the printer\nhence controlling the amount of ink you put down.  The Bubblejet did not.\nI had no imaging software to test the printers with and so had no\ncomparision there.  Finally, I wanted sheet feeding.  In that configuration\nthe Bubblejet cost approximately $100 more than the Deskjet.\n\nI went through a pretty thorough evaluation and chose the Deskjet when I\nspent my own money.  BTW, I am replacing the BJ-300 with a Deskjet 500 at\nwork this month anyway.\n\nRegards\n\nMike Mattix\nAg Group of Monsanto\nLuling, LA\n\n===========================================================================\n\nI spent some time comparing the two.  We ended up getting the Bubblejet\nBJ-200 versus the HP.  Our reasons were:\n\n1) The HP seemed to have worse banding than the Canon\n2) 360dpi versus 300 - we felt we could see the difference\n3) Price - Canon has a $50 rebate program going on at the moment.\n\nThe BJ-200 was our choice over the BJ-10ex - we could have 100 pages in the\nBJ-200 feeder.  The BJ-10ex holds only 30 pages, I think.\n\nAs you can see, up to 100 pages on the BJ-200.  We haven't done anything\nbig with the BJ, but its performance seems reasonable under Windows.  I\nknow that the Microsoft BBS has a newer windows driver than comes with the\nprinter, but I don't know how it compares (also the driver included with\nthe printer is Canon's whereas I don't know where the Microsoft BBS one\ncomes from - Microsoft?)\n\nHope this helps.\n-- \nThomas V. Frauenhofer, WA2YYW\ntvf@cci.com, ...!uunet!uupsi!cci632!tvf, tvf@cs.rit.edu\nMandlebratwurst: The Meal that Eats Itself!\n\n===========================================================================\n\nAltough I'm sometimes also a salesperson (if I'm not suppost to study :-))\nI would recommend to buy the BJ200. The printing quality is a bit better,\nbut you you've got much more possiblities. Don't forget the HP engine is at\nleast 2 years on the marked, the Canon engine (witch is also used in\nother \"new\" bubblejet printers like e.g. the Epson ones) is quite recently\navailable..\n\n\nI've seen during a short demonstration (from someone who tryed to sell me\nCanon printers) 2 times the same picture, one printed with the BJ200, one\nwith the Canon, the other with the HP, and.. there was a difference in\nprinting- quality,.. The Canon was a bit better..\n\nGreetz,\n\nKris\n\n===========================================================================\n\nWhen we decided we needed quiet printers in our hospital we looked to\ninkjet printers.  They have near laser quality, speed, and they are quiet.\nWe use both HP Deskjets and the Canon BJ-200s.  I prefer the paper handling\nqualities of the Deskjets but I feel the Canons have superior print\nquality.  The Ideal would be a Canon with a sheet feeder, however I did end\nup buying a deskjet for home use (got too good a deal).  Anyway, we are\nusing Canons in high volume areas and they are holding up very well.  Out\nof 15 Deskjets and 4 BJ-200s I have only had one problem with a deskjet and\nthat was taken care of very quickly by HP.\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t-Nate\n\n===========================================================================\n\nWhenever I buy anything I look at what the \"experts\" say, pick out the top\nfew and then buy on whatever criteria are the most apt.  I've been\nunusually flush lately (no begging letter please) and so I've done this a\nfew times including - about four months ago - with inkjet printers.\n\nI can't remember much about the process except that I read about three\nreviews of inkjets and that the 500 was always at or near the top.  I\nbought the 500C because of the added dimension of colour (I intend to build\na multi- media machine at some stage and have just bought a colour scanner\ntowards that).  Although I haven's used the colour thing in earnest yet I\ntried it out on a couple of Windows bitmaps and I was pleased with the\nresult.\n\nI note that even though you can now get the 550C (the one with both colour\nand mono with no need to change the cartridge), the 500C and 500 are still\nreadily available (at least in the UK).  The following are my\nviews\/experience:\n\n\t1.\tI don't know anything about the Canon except that I came away\n\t\tfrom reviews (and replies to a posting similar to yours) with\n\t\tthe idea that the HP offered the best performance\/price ratio.\n\n\t2.\tI believe HP are the originals in the field - not always the\n\t\tideal place to be but the market's still young so one assumes\n\t\tthey have the expertise.\n\n\t3.\tThe 500C is worth the extra.  Operation in mono is perfectly\n\t\tacceptable and I get good crisp reproduction of fonts from\n\t\tWindows.\n\n\t4.\tI used to work for Monotype when they still manufactured\n\t\ttypesetters (before their AMERICAN owners closed them down!)\n\t\tand I can tell you that in terms of definition 300 dpi is\n\t\tpretty poor anyway so 360 dpi is just a bit less poor...\n\n\t5.\tThe HP comes with a reasonable set of drivers.\n\n\t6.\tIf you buy it invest in the additional RAM pack - it's pretty\n\t\tslow with it, God knows what it's like without!\n\nI actually work in Germany and my PC is home in the UK so it's not in daily\nuse.  I would say that apart from my not reading the manual properly and\nhaving a really dumb problem at the start it's easy peasy to operate.\n\nHope this is of use.\n\nRegards\n\nDavid\t\n\n===========================================================================\n\nJust bought the BJ-200.  I thought the price couldn't be beat ($329, with\n$50 rebate thru 5\/31) and so far it is comparable, even superior, to the\nDeskJet in print quality.\n\nSpeed:   Per page rate seems to be faster (I don't have figures).\n         I don't print long docs, though.\n\nQuality: I think the graphics quality is excellent.  Print quality is\n         excellent as well, unless you use small fonts and hold it up\n         close; you can see a lot more \"jaggies\" than on a LaserJet.\n         The 360 dpi is offset by a little less accuracy in holding the\n         page\/print head in place, I would imagine.\n\nLarge docs:  Not room in the standard model for a whole lotta pages ...\n         manual says up to 100, though.  Haven't tried it.\n\nDrivers:  No problems under Win3.1 yet.  WinWord doesn't want to print\n         the envelopes the same way the Canon does, though.\n\nKnow nothing of add-on costs.\n\n Daniel A. Hartung  --  dhartung@chinet.chinet.com  --  Ask me about Rotaract\n\n===========================================================================\n\n\nI just bought a BJ-200 printer a couple of days ago.  I compared it to the\nsample print of an HP DeskJet 500 and knew that the HP wasn't for me.  The\nBJ-200 is pretty fast and really prints with good quality.  I can compare\nit with the HP LaserJet IIID PostScript and they look almost identical (\ndepending on the kind of paper).  I don't have problems with the ink not\nbeing dry, it seems to dry VERY fast.  Probably within a second.  Since\nCanon is giving a $50 rebate until the end of May, it is really a good buy.\n\n\n---\nSean Eckton\nComputer Support Representative\nCollege of Fine Arts and Communications\n\n===========================================================================\n\nWow, it's funny you should ask this.  I'm a little behind in news reading\nso I know this may be late.\n\n  I just purchased the Canon Bubblejet last night.  I was really worried\nthat I wouldn't like it but the print quality, and noise level is\nfantastic!  I printed quite a few documents with lots of graphics and it\nprinted DAMN near laser quality.  You can't tell it's not laser unless you\nget 2 inches from the page.\n\n  no problems with drivers.  The printer came with the driver diskette\nwhich is good because I was beginning to panic when I couldn't findi it\nunder Windows or WordPerfect.  It works well under both.  I have yet to\ninstall Word for Windows so don't know how it works with them.\n\n  I had a DeskJet 500 at work last year.  It was a good printer as well ut\nI felt it was awfully slow.  And much noisier than the BubbleJet.  I won't\nsay the BubbleJet is MUCH better, but I really do like it more.  Just my\n$0.02 worth.\n\n-=- Brett\n===========================================================================\n\n--\nSincerely,\n\nRobert Kayman\t----\tkayman@cs.stanford.edu  -or-  cpa@cs.stanford.edu","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
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{"text":"\n\n    Larry King Live was both telling and sickening.  Every other word\n    out of Janet REno's mouth  was \"the little children\" ,etc.  Sounded\n    like Clinton talking.  She made claims that the children were \n    beaten, etc, DESPITE the pronouncements of social workers that none\n    of the children who left the compound were abused.  But the REAL\n    crime:\n\n\n      Larry King, and his censored show.  NOT ONE FUCKING QUESTION\n      about Reno's possible error.  Just two calls about how she\n      had made a \"good decision\".  Now, it doesn't take a rocket\n      scientist to figure out that SOME people are going to be upset.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Does anyone know the status of Jeffries or Arocha?\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"    The NSA's charter forbids them from doing any purely domestic\nintelligence work, I would think that even providing assistance in\ndevelopment of the Skipjack algorithom is a violation of that charter. \nBut as with any intrenched government agency, they will do what they\nthink is expedent.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Once again, this posting has been delayed for about a week by falling\nbetween some software cracks...\n\n\n[Here follows an introduction to the controversial incident, and an\n apologetic explanation purporting to show why it couldn't actually\n have happened.  The historicity of the episode doesn't matter to what\n follows]\n\nI don't know whether I'm quoting Gregg or Zakaria below.  Anyway, back\nto current affairs,\n\n\nAmong others; this incident is not something Rushdie or Watt or anyone\nelse dug up from nowhere, it is a well known story, a myth if you\nwill, known (according to Umar Khan) to \"Every Muslim school boy and\ngirl\", and so presumably to Rushdie, and to Gibreel Farishta.\n\n\nYes, this is what writing fiction is all about.  Rushdie was writing\nabout a crisis of faith, and chose this myth to present it, by placing\nthe actor \"Gibreel\" in the role of the angel whose name he took.\nRushdie was not writing a history or theology book, and nowhere claims\nor implies that this is what actually happened.  It's somewhat like\nstories woven around the relationship between Jesus and the reformed\nprostitute Mary Magdalene (another myth).  Or those referring to the\nArthurian mythos, or the Grail legend, or the Wandering Jew, or dozens\nof others.  If you can stand to read the work of a blasphemer,\nconsider Salman Rushdie's children's book \"Haroun and the Sea of\nStories\" for an idea of the way a storyteller -- a specific\nstoryteller -- works with existing story lines.\n\n\nNo.  Muhammad's [Mahound's] integrity is not really impugned in this\npart of the story, and there's no reason to think this was Rushdie's\nintent: Gibreel, as the archangel, produces the verses (divine and\nsatanic), though he doesn't know their provenance.  It is not implied\n(in a straight reading) that Muhammad influences them:\n\n    \" *Not my voice* I'd never know such words I'm no classy speaker\n    never was never will be but this isn't my voice it's a Voice.\n      Mahound's eyes open wide, he's seeing some kind of vision,\n    staring at it, oh, that's right, Gibreel remembers, me.  He's\n    seeing me.  My lips moving, being moved by.  What, whom?  Don't\n    know, can't say.  Nevertheless, here they are, coming out of my\n    mouth, up my throat, past my teeth: the Words.\n      Being God's postman is no fun, yaar.\n      Butbutbut: God isn't in this picture.\n      God knows whose postman I've been.\"\n\nIt's ambiguous: is Mahound somehow manipulating Gibreel?  Is it Satan?\nOr something else?  The answer is not given.\n\nTo be sure, the question is raised.  This novel explores faith and the\nrole of revelation in religion, among other things.  Addressing loss\nof faith implicitly raises questions about the truth of revelation,\nbut this novel proposes no answers, at least not directly.  The very\nexistence of a newsgroup named \"alt.atheism\" raises the same\nquestions, more forcefully, and does propose some answers, which is\nthe real relevance.  If Rushdie's mild fictional exploration is \"filth\nand lies\", and he \"asked for what he got\", are we next on the fatwa\nlist?  (That's a rhetorical question, of course.)\n-- \nJim Perry   perry@dsinc.com   Decision Support, Inc., Matthews NC\nThese are my opinions.  For a nominal fee, they can be yours.\n\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nConvenient?  It seems very appropriate that this is cross-posted to\nalt.conspiracy.\n\nAssuming the most favorable interpretation of your '1000 degree'\nmeasurement (that the temperature is in Centigrade, rather than the\nmore common -in the US- Fahrenheit), you are still laboring under at\nleast 2 misconceptions:\n\n1.  You seem to believe that steel melts somewhere around 1000 C.\n    Actually, the melting point of most iron alloys (and steels are\n    iron alloys) is in the neighborhood of 1400 C.  Even if the gun\n    were found in area which achieved the 1000 C temperature, the steel\n    parts of the gun would not be deformed, and it would still be\n    trivial to identify the nature of the weapon.\n\n2.  A fire is not an isothermal process.  There are 'hot' spots and\n    'cold' spots, though 'cold' is purely a relative term.   So the\n    weapon was not necessarily situated in a hot spot, as you seem to\n    imply.  And, even if it was, so what?  It would not have melted\n    anyway.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I understood that there are two methods to connect application code to widgets:\n\n                       callbacks and actions\n\nThe problem I face now is that I have a quite long piece of application code\nthat performs a lot of drawing into a window. I want to connect this to a\nwidget. No problem so far. I could use a callback function or an action to do this, processing any events afterwards.\n\nBut because the drawing takes some while, I want the application code sequence\nto be able to be interrupted by events. Then I want to handle the events\nand resume with processing the application code at the point it was\ninterrupted.\nIt seems to me that this isn't possible, but how can I give the user the\nimpression that his inputs are immediately processed ?\n\nHas anybody an idea?\n\nPlease answer via e-mail.\n\nThanks in advance.\n\nSoenke\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nSoenke Voss                                                Faculty of Economics\nsoenke@wiwi12.uni-bielefeld.de                          University of Bielefeld\n                                                             W-4800 Bielefeld 1\n                                                                        Germany\n\nThe only difference between me and a madman is\nthat I am not mad ! (Salvador Dali)","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"The latest issue of The Andrew View, newsletter of the Andrew Consortium\nis available.  The simplest way to get it is via ftp from\nemsworth.andrew.cmu.edu (128.2.45.40) in directory .\/newsletters; \nsubdirectories ASCII and PostScript contain the newsletter in those\nformats.  \n\nIf you have requested it in the past, you will receive an email copy. \nYou may request to be placed on the mailing list by sending your request\nto info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nI have two SCSI hard drives, each has 512KB of 'cache'.\n\nThere several reasons for this :-\n\nWhen the drive has read requested data from the disk the SCSI bus may be\nbusy. This data needs to be stored some where until the bus is free and\nthe data can be transmitted.\n\nWhen the drive receives data to be written, the data can come down the bus\nfaster than the drive can write it to the disk. It needs to be stored\nsomewhere while the disk is writing it out.\n\nIn these situations the memory is being used as a buffer NOT a cache!\n\nMay be the drive does some read-adead caching as well...\n\n\nGuy","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\tExcuse me? Quality? As in grade A CO2 and grade B CO2? I may not have\nthis quite right but I was under the impression that CO2 was CO2.\n\n Furthermore, \n\n\tA) There is no reason to believe this system is inherently stable- \nThe Ice ages occured without any help from humans.\n\n\tB) The point was that the human contribution of CO2 and other \ngreenhouse gasses is insignificant and it won't really make a difference if\nwe make more or less.\n\n\tC) What overwhelming data? I see lots of 'projections' of the future,\nwhich is fascinating, considering they can't predict the weather two weeks\nin advance.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Hello,\nI have some problem in converting tga file(generated by POVray) to\nrle file. When I convert, I do not get any warning message. But\nif I use xloadimage\/getx11, something is wrong.\n\nError messages are,\n% targatorle -o o.rle data.tga\n% xloadimage o.rle\no.rle is a 0x0 24 bit RLE image with no map (will dither to 8 bits), with gamma of 1.00\n  Dithering image...done\n  Building XImage...done\nxloadimage: X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) on 0x0\nxloadimage: X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) on 0xb00003\n......\n\nI know that I need to install ppmtorle and tgatoppm, but I do not spend\ntime to install them. Even I do not want to generate .rgb from POVray\nand then convert them to rle, if possible.(.rgb to rle works, but\nit will mess up my directory with so many files, and it needs 2 more\nsteps to finally convert to rle file. say cat | rawtorle | rleflip )\nDoes any body out there have same experience\/problems ?\n\nThanks in advance,","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I have a few the original IBM 10Mb harddisks for sale. They are actually\nSeagate's ST412, MFM, full height,  has the IBM logo and black face plate. \n \n  Each disk is checked and formatted with DOS 6.0. It can be doubled to \n20Mb or so with dblspace or stacker if you so desire.  Have the original IBM\nfoam fitted boxies and anti-static bags. I am not sure if they were ever \nused, but each drive that is sent out will be quarenteed in good working order. \n \n $30 each plus shipping cost, (about $5), ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nSpeaking of SIGGRAPH, I just went through the ordeal of my annual registration\nfor SIGGRAPH and re-upping of membership in the ACM last night, and was I ever\ngrossed out!  The new prices for membership are almost highway robbery!\n\nFor example:\n\n\tSIGGRAPH basic fee went from $26 last year to $59 this year for the same\n\tthing, a 127% increase.  Those facile enough to arrange a trip to the\n\tannual conference could reduce this to $27 by selecting SIGGRAPH Lite,\n\twhich means SIGGRAPH is charging an additional $32 (or so) for the\n\tproceedings and the art show catalog, essentially.\n\n\tTOPLAS went up 40% in cost, way outstripping the current inflation rate.\n\n\tBasic SIGCHI fees remainded the same, but whereas before SIGCHI\n\tmembership included UIST and Human Factors conferences proceedings,\n\tthese are now an extra cost option.  Bundling that back into the basic\n\trate, equivalent services have gone up 100% in cost.\n\n\tSIGOIS membership cost has up 33%, but they've also split out the\n\tComputer Supported Cooperative Work conference proceedings that used to\n\tbe included with membership.  Adding that cost back in means this SIG\n\talso has doubled its membership fee.\n\nWhat really galls me is that the ACM sent out brochures a couple months ago\ntouting their new approach to providing member services, and tried to make it\nsound like they were offering NEW services.  But with the exception of a couple,\nlike SIGGRAPH, all the \"plus\" services appear to be just splitting the costs\ninto smaller piles so that they don't look so big.  But their recommended\nchanges to my membership would have me paying 90% more than last year for a 31%\nincrease in services (measured by cost, not by value), and, curiously, a 31%\ninflation rate on the publications I got last year.\n\nIs anyone out there as galled by this extortion as I am?\n________________________________________________________________________________\nRobert Reed\t\t\tHome Animation Ltd.\t\t503-656-8414\nrobert@slipknot.rain.com\t5686 First Court, West Linn, OR 97068\n\nSHOOTING YOURSELF IN THE FOOT IN VARIOUS LANGUAGES AND SYSTEMS","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I am looking for some clarification on a subject that I am trying to find some\ninformation on.\n\nHow is HSV-2 (Herpes) transmitted?  I currently know that it can be transmitted\nduring inflammation but, what I am looking for is if it can be transmitted \nduring in other periods.  Also, I want to know if you can be accurately tested \nfor it while you are not showing symtoms?\n\nIf you can help I would greatly appreciate it.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":": In article <34592@oasys.dt.navy.mil> odell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Bernard O'farmer\n: >I am not quite sure of the reasons, but the old man was certainly\n: >not \"enraptured\" by ole Harry.\n\n:   But maybe his wife was :-) \n\n:   I don't claim to know whether it's true or not, but a couple different\n: people (totally unrelated) have said Harry was 'relieved' of his duties\n: because he had more than platonic relations with Augie Busch's wife.\n: Judgement is left to the individual, cuz I sure don't claim to be an\n: impeachable source in this case. \n\nAmong those who have said it (well, not quite SAID it but certainly\nalluded to it) is Bing Devine, Redbird GM or some other administrator at\nthe time.  I heard Bing speak about it at last year's SABR National.\n\nBTW, have we had a show of hands about who will be attending this year's\nSABR National in San Diego?  I'll be there...\n--","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n: Oh? Then why did the smoke and flames start from three different places?\n: In particular, three different places where there were no APV's?\n\nThe crushed remains of a PRESSURIZED propane tank were found in the ruins\nof the BD compound.  The key word is PRESSURIZED.  When that baby was \ncrushed, the gas would have gone all over the place.  And when ignited, \nwould look just like the pictures of the explosion we saw on the TV \nnews.  Ammo doesn't go up all at once - kind of like fireworks going off.\nPropane gas goes off in a big fireball.  Gee, that's kind of consistent \nwith what the pictorial history shows.  Hmmmmm...\n\n: And if the government did start the fire, then why weren't people trying\n: to get out of the compound?\n\nRemember, PRESSURIZED gas.  People all over the building.\nConflagration in less than a minute.  Huge explosion.  Gas masks being\nworn by the inhabitants.  Makes a lot of sense that very few of those\non the inside would even know that the tank was damaged.  If they\nthought it was just a normal fire, they would probably be trying to\nput it out.  Then - BOOM - the fireball.  After that explosion and \nconcussion, I doubt anybody on the inside of the building was capable\nof moving.\n\n: And besides... oh, I don't know why I'm even bothering.\n\nGood question.  Take an objective look at what happened, listen to the \nthings that the FBI said (\"The BD's started the fire.\"  \"The BD's bodies\nwere found with gunshot wounds.\") that are now being refuted by the \nevidence being recovered.  Seems that the FBI is deliberately making\nstatements that have no rational basis in fact, and trying to make\nthem sound like fact.  \n\n: I find it tremendously chilling that so many people seem eager to believe\n: a murderous, heavily-armed religious cult, despite much evidence to the\n: contrary. Thought Experiment: Suppose this exact same thing happened under\n: the Bush administration. What would your answer be then? Would you still\n: prefer to believe the cultists?\n\nYes, I would still believe that the FBI and the BATF were on a non-stop\nstring of lies and half-truths.  This is consistent with their operations\non numerous occasions.\n\nAnd as for the BD's being murderous, they did not cause any problems until\nthey were assaulted by the BATF.  So now a thought experiment for you:  If\nthe BATF had never stormed that farm, would four agents and 90 BD's be\ndead today?  \n\n: (No, I don't really expect a response to that challenge.)\n\n: >But then\n: >again, that is how Mr. Clinton was elected, by people who believe that\n: >his campaign promisses would be respected by him once he got into office.\n\n: Um, isn't that how all politicians are elected?\n\nYes.  That is how politicians are elected.  Kind of scary, isn't it.  Now\nif we as a people actually held Mr. Clinton to his promises instead of\napologizing and denying that he ever made them, and actually expected\naccountability by our government, I doubt that debacles like Waco would\nhappen as often as they do.\n\n: So is there any particular reason the gummint decided to slaughter eighty\n: people? Are they, like, just plain evil, or what? Did they just wake up\n: one day, stretch and yawn, and throw a dart at a map of the United States\n: to figure out who to oppress that day? I'm eager to know.\n\nAcutally, no.  THe BATF has a rather checkered history of staging raids of\nthis sort just prior to the time when their budget comes up for review.  \nOddly enough, their budget was about to be reviewed just two weeks after\nthe initial raid on the BD's.  \"Coincidence?  I think not!\"\n\nAnd as for the fire, what happened was caused by the act of knocking over\nwalls with an armored vehicle of destruction.  The FBI tried to convince\nthe world it was suicide, but all of the facts that are coming out by\nthe investigation of the Texas rangers and medical examiners point to \na gas explosion and quick fire that decimated all of the occupants of the\nbuilding.  Sounds to me like a law enforcement agency that is trying to \ncover its ass.  \n\n: And does Bill Clinton have cooler theme music than Darth Vader? How is he\n: on diabolical laughter? Does he look good in a cape? These things MUST be\n: investigated. You first.\n\nOh, please.  If you want to argue, argue.  If  you merely want to demean those\nwho see this differently than you, then please go somewhere else.  \n\n: Mark Sachs IS: mbs110@psuvm.psu.edu","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nIf the clutch is in, then a large chunk of counter-rotating mass is not\nrotating.  Hence, at a light, reving makes it twist.  Shaft effect is the\nrear end rising under power or (the real problem) getting lower to the road\nwhen the throttle is snapped shut (say when you are cornering and the heads\nare real close to the road).  New GS bikes with the paralever shaft have\nalmost no shaft effect.\n\n\n\nIt's a question of how long you spend at low RPM and how much you need the\nextra light.  At low RPM, 3K and under, they don't charge all that much if\nat all.  The alternators put out sufficient wattage, it just that you need\nto be at 4K RPM to get it.  \n\n\nFull choke.  Open the gas taps.  Hit the starter and ever so slightly blip the\nthrottle.  It should fire.  Cranking should be done with minimal throttle.\nMy R100 likes the throttles to be raised just a bit off idle.\n\nIt's an EXPERIENCE thing.  Like Zen, it's hard to describe.  It can be hard\nto learn if you aren't paying atttention to the differences between success\nand failure.  Especially if you get really pissed off and flatten the\nbattery while trying to get it to run.\n\nIf my bike has been sitting for a few weeks, I give it a short while to\nstart.  If it doesn't, I turn it off and wait a few minutes for things to\nvaporize in the fuel system and then it lights right off.  I've got dual\nplugs which make it easier to start.\n\n\nThe BIG fix is the Bing carb upgrade kit.  It's good for a few MPG and the\nparts are alcohol proof.  The parts it replaces aren't alcohol proof.  As\nlong as the bike isn't going to sit for long periods of time, gasohol is\nnice since it helps keep ping away.  If your bike doesn't ping on cheap gas\nyou ought to raise the compression! (Half a smiley, the BMW twins of the\n80s and beyond have lowered compression to keep the EPA happy.  Dual plugs\nand higher compression give back a big chunk of the lost perfomance).","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"-- \nI would like to find out about the ADB connector on the back of the\nmacintosh powerbooks.    \n\n\tAfter seeing several products that use it for powering devices\n\ton the powerbook I also thought up of something to power from\n\tthe ADB connector (the keyboard\/mouse connector)\n\tDoes anyone have spex on it....  I know it has voltage on it\n\tand a serial i\/o of some sort if some kind soul could tell\n\tme the way you talk to the mac through it (ie packet info)\n\tIT would BE APPRECIATED GREATLY!!!!!\n\n\ton a second note,   What are the pin outs of the \n\tMAC powerbook  modem connector ..   I have would like to\n\tknow which pins are +5V, data  ETC...  \n\n\t\tAGAIN THANKS!  \n\t\t\tCharles\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nIn many of our cities, there are traffic signals every 100 feet (unsynchronised,\nof course (well here in Ottawa anyway)) and the roads are so congested that \nshifting manually is a real pain in the left foot.  Also, most Canadians are\ntoo stupid to learn how to shift manually (gee, I gotta co-ordinate my two\nfeet on the clutch, brake _and_ accelerator, and I gotta steer, shift _and_\noperate the signals (optional) and radio with my two hands... duh... it \ncan't be done).  Also, most North American made cars come with the automatic \nas standard equipment, so why bother with a manual when the car can shift \nfor you for no addition money.\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
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{"text":"\nI grew up listening to Harry Carey call the Cardinals' games and\nreally liked him--then. But, as I recall, he was fired because\nhe was too critical (read: honest) when he was announcing. He\ndared to point out the Cards' miscues and such. At least, this is\nwhat I remember from when I was a kid.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"The most current orbital elements from the NORAD two-line element sets are\ncarried on the Celestial BBS, (513) 427-0674, and are updated daily (when\npossible).  Documentation and tracking software are also available on this\nsystem.  As a service to the satellite user community, the most current\nelements for the current shuttle mission are provided below.  The Celestial\nBBS may be accessed 24 hours\/day at 300, 1200, 2400, 4800, or 9600 bps using\n8 data bits, 1 stop bit, no parity.\n\nElement sets (also updated daily), shuttle elements, and some documentation\nand software are also available via anonymous ftp from archive.afit.af.mil\n(129.92.1.66) in the directory pub\/space.\n\nSTS 55     \n1 22640U 93 27  A 93119.24999999  .00041555  00000-0  12437-3 0    90\n2 22640  28.4657 249.3697 0008512 260.9747 152.1416 15.90732913   425","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"% mail newsserv@kiae.su\nSubject:  PLEASE, HELP!!!\n\n\n\n                    Dear  Ladies and  Gentlemen!\n\n\n      We should be grateful for any information about address and (or)\n   E-mail address of Loma-Linda Hospital (approximate position: USA,\n   California, near Vaimor town, 60 miles from Los-Angelos).\n      A patient needs consultation in this clinics before operation.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nMore than Talk:  From the FCC Rules:  73.4250 Subliminal Perception:\n\n(a) See Public Notice, FCC 74-78, dated January 24, 1974, 44 FCC 2d, 1016; 39\nFr 3714, January 29, 1974.\n(b) See FCC Information Bulletin, \"Subliminal Projection\" (sic, at least in my\nrules service copy of the rules), dated November 1977.\n\nSince I don't have either old copies of the Federal Register or the Information\nBulletin around, I can't tell you what you can't do on TV ( or radio) but I\nseem to remember this being an unnecisarily hot subject in the late '70s. \n\nPractically speaking, I dont have too much trouble seeing the one frame edits\nin MTV promos,  badly scratched or torn single frames in films and such, but\nmaby that's just because the contrast between the single frame and the\nsurrounding material was significant.  I never believed in the one-frame type\nof SP being real.  \n\nOn the other hand, the Coca-Cola or Brand (insert desired name here) beer cans\nconveniently placed so the brand name is visible in the movie you just watched,\nthat's another story, and if your TV station or network was paid by the beer\ncompany for the privilege of doing that, there has to be a \"Promotional\nConsideration paid by ...) or similar message included with the program; but if\nthe TV station bought the movie already edited that way from the film company\nand didn't get any of the payment for \"brand visibility\" that the film company\ngot, then they don't have to run the message.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Ok, this might seem a bit odd.\nHow do check the state of (dip)switches on the mother board of a IBM XT\nWITHOUT using the BIOS.\n\n\t\/Thanx","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Does anyone have information about the struggles that Patti\nDuke went through in her personal life with severe mood swings.\nDid she have some form of chemical imbalance that triggered\nthese problems?  I recall that she wrote a book about her troubles.\nDoes someone have the title of that book?\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"A few months ago, in one the the motorcycle mags, there was\nan article that mentioned reflector tape that was supposed to\nbe available thru BMW.  The idea was that the tape would look\nblack in sunlight, and reflect in other colors at night to\nheadlights.  It sounded like a nice way to add nighttime \nvisibility without turning the bike into a carnival attraction.\n\nI talked to the local BMW dealer about this.  I was told that the \nonly thing he had heard about this kind of reflector, was it being \nused in a coming line of BMW clothing (rainsuits).  He wasn't aware \nof anything regarding self applied tape.\n\nHas anyone come across this from BMW or any other source?\n\nThanks,\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nCute anecdote, but hardly indicative of the population.  From the responses\nI've received to that post (all from men, by the way) I get the impression\nthat unless a person is willing to drop down and masturbate whenever the\nneed or desire strikes, then that person is very hung up on sex.\n\nWith tv programs about \"boobs\" (Seinfeld) and \"masturbation (again Seinfeld)\nand with condoms being handed out in high schools and with the teenage\npregnancy rate and the high abortion rate here in the States, I would\nnot assume that we American's are frightened of sex.  Rather we are a bit\nstupid about it.  Healthy sexuality does not require flamboyance or\npromiscuity.  It requires responsibility.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nWell, I tried this method based on responses from several people.  Either\nI am a klutz(probable) or they have changed the connector.  I ended up having\nto destroy the connector, put heat shrink tubing on the individual pins and \nthen plug them into the SB connector in the correct order.  It works great \nthis way so this turned out just fine.  It certainly sounded easy based on\nother people's experiences but my attempts did not go too well...\n\nJohn\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I am interested in finding 3D animation programs for the Mac.\nI am especially interested in any programs that don't exist\nin a PC port and are so good that they would make me go buy\na Mac.  Do any such exist?","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\tCan't we just stick this guy in the FAQ and stop responding to him,\nguys? The last several flame-wars with him have been pretty much identical.\nCould someone just collect all the articles from this one, and simply\nre-post the entire block whenever he tries to start one? It'd be simpler.\nRoger apparently is one of those embarassing specimens who enjoys flames.\nWhy give him what he wants?\n\n\tOh, Roger.. You're dull.. very dull... You should get a new act.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I have been using a HDS X-terminal, and really like it. What\nis really powerful is that it can run the X server without\nrunning a window manager. One can then run a special client\nX program called a window manager, either (1) run \nmotif or openlook from it's own firmware (limiting the network\ntraffic - but having no HOME). or (2) run motif or openlook\nfrom some home place (like a sparc, or vms).\n\nThis is powerful, especially since I can exit one window manager\n(without killing windows) and then start up another manager.\n(Some of my VMS tools need special meta-mouse combos that work in\none manager and not the other).\n\nWell the question is:\n\n  On a sparcstation running openlook, does anyone know how to\n  break apart olwm from the olwm_slave program? Basically I\n  want to run only the server, and go somewhere else to run\n  the window manager.\n\n---\nPlease respond my e-mail (as well as posting) because of the\nlarge volumes in window.X)\n\nThanks.\n\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nThat's expected. The first sentence describing the bitmap resource in the\nMenuButton section of the \"Athena Widget Set - C Language Interface\"\ndocumentation states\n\n      bitmap      A bitmap to display instead of the label.\n\nOne way round this might be to make use of the button's backgroundPixmap\nresource, but remember that you, or a user of your application, won't be able\nto set it from a resource file. Also, the button won't automatically be the\nsize of the bitmap. The bitmap will be tiled if necessary, or you could set the\nbutton's dimensions to match its size.\n\nJim","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Two or three years ago I saw a report on TV about a company that had \ndeveloped a method of making solar cells on a flexible substrate. My\nfailing memory has convinced me it was some flexible metal. I now have\nan application that requires a flexible solar cell and was hoping someone\nout in netland knows something about this company or a similar product.\nAny help would be greatly appreciated.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nMajor League Baseball is trying to expand its appeal to people with shorter\nattention spans (i.e. the football crowd). (-:  Invariably, all the\narguments from people who don't like to watch baseball on T.V. say the\nsame thing:  the games are too long and too boring.  Baseball is trying\nto find a way to shorten the games for wider T.V. appeal.  If you look at\nit, though, baseball games last around the same amount of time as football\ngames.  The difference is that there is \"more action\" in that duration in\nfootball games.  Perhaps if there were \"more action\" in baseball games, you\nwould get more of those fans to tune in.  Anyway, coming up with a solution\nto make baseball more appealing to a bigger crowd is going to be difficult.\n[On soapbox] Yet another reason to get a commisioner NOW since it's obvious\nthat ruling baseball by comittee works about as fast as a snail race in\nNebraska. [Off soapbox]\n\n-Steve","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I am trying to design a small 90mW 472MHz FM transmitter for remote alarm\nuse.\n\nIs there an FM transmitter IC available that can be used for this purpose?\n\nAny help, circuits, info etc will be greatfully accepted.\n\nPlease reply to bsc_graham@seqeb.gov.au\n\nThanks in advance.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nAs the Rangers found out in last year's playoffs, it's too late to\ntry line-juggling at this point.\n\ngld","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n     Since Image Writer LQ was discontinued, there is no Apple Talk\n     printer with 11\"*15\" continous paper printer.\n\n     I would like to know is there are any possibility to connect\n     an IBM compatible printer to an Apple Talk net directly (or \n     with a Net Serial hardware), and if I need any other software\n     to do it.\n\nI've have not found quite the solution yet. The following comes from\nMacUser's MiniFinders:\n\nThe Grappler IIsp is a dot matrix-printer interface cartridge that\nemulates the Imagewriter LQs. Includes networking and spooling\nsoftware that allows multiple users... $159 Orange Micro 714-779-2772 \n\nIf you find out any more information, please let me know because in\nthe future I have the same problem, or if anyone else has the\ninformation please post. Thanks\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"[Someone quoted the following.  I've removed the name because it's not\nclear which name goes with which level of quote.  --clh]\n\n\n\nOn the basis of these examples I would say that Joe Moore was only wrong\nin claiming Augustine as a prime mover of the sin=sex view.  These quotes\nclearly equate sexuality with defilement and incontinance, even within\nthe marriage relationship (else they would not apply to Mary after her marriage\nto Joseph).\n\nSo Joe's assignment of the reasoning behind the concept of the perpetual\nvirginity of Mary does seem to be supported by these quotes.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Knight Riders has got to be one of the silliest\nmovies I've ever seen.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"controler  \nprodrive  \nyou  \nare  \nwant  \non  \nmoney.\ncable.\nand  \nthe\n\nIs this true??? I was under the impression that people on the net had both  \nSCSI and IDE working together.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"The color of the board shows the composition of it, hence the use of it.\n\nOriginal and older boards were bakelite composition, and were brown.\nPhenolic (spelling) was a tan\nMost \"non filled\" fiberglass boards used in computers are green.\nFilled fiberglass is blue.\nTeflon is white.\n\nAs boards evolved more and more demands were made of them.  First boards were\nused mainly in audio circuitry.  Couldn't be used in high voltage or RF because\nit would arc and burn.  Most boards today are fiberglass, the type being chosen\nby its use and cost.  \n\nBoards in satellite and microwave communication are teflon (and ceramic) as the\nfiberglass, and other boards are conductive (they actually work more as a \ncapacitive dialectric, but the word conductive simplifies explaination) at the\nhigh frequencies.\n\nAnother printed circuit material used mainly in automotive and interconnections\nis a thin flexible (mostly mylar) material and is used to connect the front of\nthe vehicle (etc) to the back instead of wiring harnesses.  Camcorders use this\nto intereconnect the boards inside where wires would be a nuisance.\n\nAm working on a generator made by Hewlet Packard right now and the entire board\nis gold plated, boy it looks expensive!!!\n\nHope I got most of my facts right as I am working from memory of material read.\n\nMy education was pre-transister!\n-- \n73, Tom\n================================================================================\nTom Wagner, Audio Visual Technician.  Malaspina College Nanaimo British Columbia\n(604)753-3245, Loc 2230  Fax:755-8742  Callsign:VE7GDA Weapon:.45 Kentucky Rifle\nSnail mail to:  Site Q4, C2.   RR#4, Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada, V9R 5X9  ","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"zyda@cs.nps.navy.mil (Michael Zyda) notes:\n\n\nI had the same problem and called the people who handle the box; the\nproblem happened some time ago and was caught almost instantly.  All\nregistrations going to that address are now fixed.  See what trouble\nyou get into when you don't procrastinate, Mike?\n\nAnd no, SIGGRAPH 93 has not skipped town -- we're preparing the best\nSIGGRAPH conference yet!","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"In <1993Apr20.004119.6119@cnsvax.uwec.edu> nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu (David Nye) \n\n\nWhy? How? Might makes right? How can they force their morality on me? Why \ncan't I do what I want? Who are they to decide? What if I disagree? \n\nGood point, but it is being immoral in our opinion.  We don't let them choose,\nwe make the decision that their actions are wrong for them.\n\n  For someone to lay claim to an alternative\n\nI admit to lean toward the idea of an innate moral sense, but have little basis\nfor it as of yet.  How far can such a concept be extended?\n\n and\n\nDo you mean that we could say it would be wrong for us to do such a thing but \nnot him.  After all, he was behaving morally in his own eyes and doing what he\nchose.  On what basis do we condemn other societies besides, here's the buzz \nwords, on the idea that there are some actions wrong for all humans in all \nsocieties?\n\n  Holding that morality is subjective does not mean\n\nWhy not? Do we have to be objective suddenly?\n\nMAC\n--\n****************************************************************\n                                                    Michael A. Cobb\n \"...and I won't raise taxes on the middle     University of Illinois\n    class to pay for my programs.\"                 Champaign-Urbana\n          -Bill Clinton 3rd Debate             cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nI am selling a Western Digital 212 meg IDE HD, the Caviar 2200 model.  The \naccess time is <15 ms, and it has a built in cache.  It is BRAND NEW, still\nin the original static bag.  Asking $275, obo.  \n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"A friend recently bought a used 286.  The brand is Syntrex.  It didn't come with any documentation and I am trying to find some information about the computer.  So the question is, has anyone heard of it?  If you know anything about these please drop me a note.\n\nThank you\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I don't know much about phones in Germany, but this is what I know: I bought\na phone in the U.S. for my mother who lives in Bratislava, Slovakia and it\nworks just fine. The problem is they don't have wall jacks like we do here.\nThere is a wire without any jack at the end sticking out of the wall. So you\nneed to connect the wires (I'm not sure if they have wall jacks in Western\nEurope - they may). Hope this helps. Dagmar kniha@carson.u.washington.edu\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThe whole point is, maybe everyone _doesn't want_ to participate.\n\n[...]\n\nBlindly opposing everything with a flavor of religion in it that is\nsupported by taxpayer money is the only way to keep christianity from\nbecoming the official U.S. religion.\n\nNot noticing that danger is utterly idiotic.\n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nClose, but no cigar.  The LISA was introduced in January, 1983 (at the\nsame time as the Apple \/\/e).  I'll have to check to see if the Hard\nDrive came bundled for the $10K.  The floppy drives were 5.25\"\ninitially (the infamous \"twiggy\" drives)\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nFreebie and the Bean, GREAT chase scene on a trials bike!\n\n ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====----","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Hi,\n  I've seen alot of ads for voicemail\/fax\/data modems.....this would\nbe way-cool if they work well....I don't want to have someone call me\nand get the connecting sound of a fax machine.  Do they work very well?\nHas anyone out there played with one?  If so, please tell me what brand\nand other info like that.....\n\t\t\t\t\tThanks,\n\t\t\t\t\tKent\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nYou've asked a toughie of a question.  There are many different drugs which\nare used for chemotherapy.\n\nThe overall purpose of chemotherapy (don't worry about the spelling.  Some of\nthese crazy medical words are impossible to spell! :-) is to either destroy\ncancer cells or to keep them from growing.  Different drugs have different\neffects on cancer cells, and therefore, it is not uncommon to use more than\none drug at a time.\n\nSome chemotherapeutic drugs are effective anytime during the growth cycle\nof a cell.  Others work only at specific times during the cell cycle.\n\nThe first phase of the cell cycle is G1; it is when the protein synthesis\nand RNA systhesis occurs.  In the second phase, S, synthesis of DNA occurs.\nThe third phase is G2; The DNA splits and RNA and protein are synthesized \naagain.  In the fourth phase, M (or Mitosis), the cell may divide.\n\nThere are drugs which are effective in each phase.  Some stop DNA synthesis.\nOthers stop the cell from dividing. Others wreck protein synthesis.\nAt any rate, the end result that is being sought is for the cancer cells\nto stop growing.\n\nIf what you are seeking is \"practical\" advice, I apologize for rambling\non the techno stuff.  Some side effects are pretty common.  Chemo. drugs\nare rather nasty.  It can cause a person to lose their appetite and to \nexperience nausea and vomiting.  Things to help this include eating small\nfrequent meals.  It is also suggested that if nausea\/vomiting (hereafter\nknown as n\/v) occurs that the person notify the doctor; there are medicines\ntthat help nausea.  Diarrhea can be an effect.  Antidiarrheal medications \ncan be given, and good skincare and fluid intake are important.\n\nProbably the one of biggest concsern is hair loss.  This does not always\nhappen.  It depends on what drugs are being given, and on the person \nthemself.  Different people taking the same drug can and do have different\nside effects.  I have seen some literature which states that wearing a snug\nheadband and\/or wearing an ice cap can help reduce hair loss, presumably\nby reducing blood flow to the scalp.  If anyone has seen research on this\ntoo, I would love to see it, and possibly some bib data.\n\nI highly recommend making contact with the American Cancer Society.\nThey have a vast selection of literature and information.  In addition,\nif your friend has had a mastectomy, I highly recommend \"Reach for Recovery\".\nIt is a support group comprised entirely of women who have lost a breast \nbecause of cancer.  They can offer some excellent support and suggestions.\n\nIf you have further questions, please send me E-mail.  I hav some good\naccess to information, and I enjoy trying to help other people.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nMy understanding of the academic use of the word cult is that it is\na group of people oriented around a single authority figure. It need\nnot be religious. However, I have seen plenty of religious cults,\nincluding some that mainstream.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"...\n: We would like to keep it that way. Thats the point. By reacting\n: strongly and forcefully now, we will assure that we continue to remain\n: free. You cannot overreact to a threat like this. The worst that\n: happens if we overreact is that we waste time and effort. The worst that\n: happens if we underreact is tyranny. I prefer overreaction myself.\n....\n: Only through centuries of overreaction have we managed to maintain\n: ourselves in this state of even moderate freedom. I suggest that\n: overreacting now and in the future is a good thing.\n\nPerry is right on target here. Careful analysis of the Clipper Chip\nannouncement reveals that is *not* likely to remain \"voluntary\" for\nvery long...the cost of the system, the cost of generating and _then\nstoring_ the escrow keys, and the admitted security holes pretty much\nmake the ClipperPhone a loser.\n\nStrong crypto will outcompete it, if strong crypto is allowed. This is\nthe battle we face.\n\nWe had rumblings of this totalitarian key registration thing a while\nback, and now the other shoe has dropped. The firestorm of commentary\nand criticism this time around reveals the almost immediate revulsion\nthis Wiretap Chip (and automatic Caller ID and Callee ID, don't\nforget!) generates in everyone, or almost everyone, who hears about\nit.\n\nThis is a battle we can't afford to lose.\n\n\n-Tim May\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nLast night CNN reported that FBI has infrared pictures showing\nthat the fires started in three places at the same time. That \nwould indicate something not resembling an accident.\n\nCheers,\nKent","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Yea, I think not also. Israel's #1 issue is \"Security\" so *any* outcomes\nof \"negotiation\" certainly need to address ISREAL'S perception of this\nissue.\n\nThe problem is is defining (by \"outsiders\", by Israel, and by the Arabs\nthemselves) what is the #1 issue to the Arab side. Is it \"Palestinian\nstatehood\", is it that Israel as a state should not and must not be\nallowed to exist, is it that the existence of a self-governing non-\nmuslim \"state\" in the \"Islamic World\" is intolerable...what? Just as\nthe dividing line between Israel-fighting-for-security and Israel-fighting-\nto-expand is often hard to discern by \"outsiders\" (especially to the Arab \nworld), so the rationale behind the Arab-struggle-to-undermine-Israel-in-\nany-way could either be based on visceral rejectionism or a sense of being\nwronged that still values peace, who knows which. \n\nAnyway, in these talks, what \"gestures\" would you think would be seen\nby Israel as \"substantial\"?\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nAnd Fleury is no enforcer. An agitator for sure, but Fleury never has and never\nwill have a fight, which seems to be what you're saying Wood is. \n\nThe closest Fleury ever came to fighting was a game two years ago against\nLos Angeles. There was a scrum and McSorley pinched Fleury's head under his\narm. Fleury dropped his gloves and gave McSorley a weak shot to the side of the\nhead. McSorely, knowing a good thing when he saw one, popped Fleury one right\nbetween the eyes. End of fight. Fleury got ten stitches for his trouble.\n\nThe only player I can ever see Theo fighting is Cliff Ronning, and even then\nhe'd be giving up two inches and 10-15 pounds. :-)","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\"The Preferred Applications Development Platform\"\naccording to 432 of the Fortune 1000 corporations\nSurvey by Sentry Market Research Survey\n(All percentages)\n\n                1992            1993\n\nUnix              18              28\nMainframe         35              22\nDOS & MSW         24              18\nOS\/2               8              17\nMidrange          14              14\n\nThis is from `Corporate Computing', May 1993, page 28.\nIt's interesting to see how the greatest vapour-project of the world\nhas not been able to make much of a difference here :-)\n\nBefore you think it's a interesting rag, they have this incredibly\nincompetent article\/opinion piece by someone named Robert Ziff which\nhas preposturous statements like \"Sun has sold around 300\nmultiprocessing servers\"!!!!!!  (In that case USC has around 4% of all\nSun MP servers on earth :-)) He is off by a factor of 50? 100?  \nI thought of sending them a \"factual disaster\" email message; they have\na column titled \"how to contact us\" but being silly PCheads they seem\nto have never heard of the Internet.\n\nThese may also be of interest:\n\nWorld computer market share by broad category (%)\n\n                                1991            1996\n\nDOS, Windows, Netware           37.0            40.0\nUnix                            11.6            21.0\nIBM Mainframe                   17.4            14.4\nVAX\/VMS                          3.7             2.6\nIBM minis                        4.1             4.0\nMacintosh                        3.6             4.6\nOther                           22.6            13.4\n\nTotally                 $155 billion\n\n1996 projections are by IDC\nSource: Unix World, Jan 1993\n\n\n\n1993 Unix hardware sales by category\n\n                             $billion        installed-base\n\nWorkstations                 14.1            3 million\nMidrange                      7.4            1 million\nLarge-scale                   1.8\nPC Unix                       0.6            2 million\n\nTotal                        23.9","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I'm looking to buy the annual Playboy magazine  issue featuring\ngirls from colleges around the US. Specificly, I want issues from\n1989, 1990, 1991 and 1992. One of these features a girl I went to\nhigh school with, so I'm curious to see how it turned out. All help\nis appreciated.\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nI wish I caught the original post, but anyway ...\n\n\nThe problem is that the Plus's poor old power supply (sometimes referred to as\nthe analog sweep board) is on its way out. Apart from a board swap (bikkies to\nApple), there's not much the average Joe can do to fix it.\n\nYou can, of course, try and re-adjust the voltage levels (the 5v rail should\nbe as close to 5v as you cn get it) but this is more often than not a\ntemporary fix. A copy of Larry Pina's \"Macntosh Repair & Upgrade Secrets\" is a\nworthwhile investment for the serious do-it-yaself-er.\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"For Sale\n   MAC 512Ke with mouse and keyboard. Functions fine\n\n   HD20 Serial Hard Drive.. plugs into Floppy port and gives a 20MB HD\n\nMake offers\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"AIRLINE TICKET \n\n                        ATA TO CINCINNATI\n\nI have a friend who has one ticket from ATLANTA to CIN, OH.  It is one seat\nin economy class on Delta.  The ticket is the return half of a round trip.\nIt is currently in a woman's name.  She does not need to fly back.  Need to\nsell the ticket.  Flyer would go standby because ticket is dated. Asking $90.\n\nI am posting this for my friend.  Please do not email responses to me.\nInstead contact Rick at 513-271-4169.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I have two UN-opened, NEW Epson Action Printers 2250 for sale.  \nList price at CompUSA is $169, I'm asking $100 + shipping for each.\n\nMy friend and I got the printers at a promotional event at one of\nthe CompUSA stores near our area.  We didn't need printers, so we're \nselling it.\n\nSpecs for printer:\n\n9-pin dot matrix printer\n240 cps Draft, 40 cps NLQ\n50 sheet paper tray (Does single sheets!)\nPrints on letterhead\nSmall footprint (Can be used either flat or upright!)\nQuiet operation\ncan support an optional tractor feeder\ncomes with Full (2-year) manufacturer's warranty\n\nif interested reply to:  phillyg@acs.bu.edu\n\nTrades are welcome!!!","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"How are you, Everybody?\n\nI installed X11R5 on our IBM RS6000 workstation. OS version is AIX 3.2.3.\nThere was no problem in installation.\nBut there was a problem in invoking 'xinit'.\nWhen I invoke 'xinit', there is a error message as follows:\n\ngiving up.\nxinit: unable to connect to X server\nxinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error.\n\nI'm a navice. So I don't know the reason why I get this message.\nPlease help me. I am waiting for your help.\n\nThanks for reading this mail.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"for those who live near or plan to vacation in New Hampshire\nand Maine, I am posting the basic info of how to\napply for a LTC (CCW) in those states for non-residents.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nGosh, I have to associate with heterosexuals against my will every day! \nThat means you've imposed your moral codes on me, now doesn't it? \nFortunately, I have taken the time to get to know some members\nof the het community and discovered that, hey!  They really AREN'T all evil\nelitists with no concept of reality!\n\nI've got a few clues for you.  (a) I'm not working to pass any laws.  (b)\nOur morals are YOUR morals: I imagine you value freedom.  So do we.  If you\nvalue your own freedom, you must necessarily accept that these laws are\nimportant to protect it.  After all, discriminate in one area and you're\nopen to discriminate in the rest.  (c) I suggest learning a bit more about\ngays, lesbians, and bis before you post the kind of drivel you have been. \nIt's obvious that you haven't a clue who you're talking about.\n\n\nBut not between members of the same sex, right?  How can you live with such\nhypocrisy?\n\nDrewcifer","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Today the Texas ME found two people, a man and a woman shot in the head\ninside the burned compound. But these were not the people that the FBI\ndescribed a few days before. The FBI said that the person found in front of\nthe compound had been shot and several children were also. The two people\nfound today were on top of the main inside concrete bunker that provided\nthe most protection during the fire. So the comment that children were\nshot is still not proved.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n[...deletions...]\n\n\nAn \"Islamic Bank\" is something which operates in a different fashion to\nyour modern bank, as I have explained here (on another thread) before.\nFor example, Islamic banks don't pay fixed interests on deposits, but a\nreturn on investments (which varies according to the market, and is not\nfixed like interest is).\n\nIslamic banks are a relatively new phenomenon in the Islamic world.\nThere are no Islamic banks in \"the West\", including the USA, to my\nknowledge.  I doubt if the market for them exists there -- at least not\nwhile \"Islamic banks\" are at a relatively early stage of their\ndevelopment as is the case now.  BCCI is most certainly not an \"Islamic\nbank\" -- did BCCI ever pay a fixed interest rate on deposits?  If the\nanswer to this question is \"yes\", then BCCI was not an Islamic bank, as\nIslamic banks are specifically set up to _not_ pay or charge interest.\n\nWhether some Muslims partially owned the bank or whatever is completely\nirrelevant.  ","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"This isn't quite true - depending on the number of local bus slots, and\nwhether or not the device is integrated into the mother board, it is\npossible to run local bus at up to 40 and 50 mhz. I've also spoken to a few \npeople who run standard local bus video cards at 50 mhz without trouble\n(and a couple of people who couldn't get a lb card to work at that speed).","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n   I saw this nifty drawn out posting and I thought I might give the two of you\n   a little help with your problem. As you both know what you posted,(and this \n   foolish thing gave me so much shit last time I tried to post) I took the \n   liberty of deleting all but the header and a single quote. I hope you don't\n   mind.\n\n   As written the second ammendment states rather clearly for anyone who can\n   read the following:\n\n \"  A well regulated militia, being necessarry to the security of a free state,\n   the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.\"\n\n  What is regulated? Regulated means \"controlled\"! How about security?\n  Well hey! That would be along the lines of being and feeling safe wouldn't\n  it? Wow! We have a concept forming here don't we!? Now what have we left?\n  \"the right of the people people people people people people people (sorry\n  got kinda hungup there) shall NOT be infringed\" Oops! Backup there,hmmm..\n  \"infringed\"....That'd be like Interfered with, altered, changed or\n  watered down in any way,shape or form! So! What we have here in it's big old\n  long winded version would be.\n\n  \" A well controlled militia, being necessary to the secure\/safe feeling of\n  state, the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be Fucked\n  with in any way shape or form by some happy ass good for nothing in \n  some piddly government building who wants to run my life in the pursuit of\n  his happiness!\" The item is clear and concise in it's present form my young \n  friend! It does not need my clarification or that of any other. THIS IS\n  ONLY AMMENDMENT which guarantees the continued existence of the others.\n  It's whole purpose is to give people recourse against the military machine\n  of a government which fails to properly represent it's creators!US!\n\n\n\nANY REPLIES OR COMMENTS CAN BE SENT TOO KANE.    DJH4484@RIGEL.TAMU.EDU\n\n\"No representative government need fear it's armed citizens\"\n\n\"Death to Tyrants!\"","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Log onto SuperMac's BBS (408) 773-4500 and download the Drive 7 Manager\nsoftware you will find there. If you can't or don't want to call their BBS,\ncall their Tech Support number, (408) 245-0646.\n\nLynn","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"This response originally fell into a bit bucket.  I'm reposting it\njust so Bill doesn't think I'm ignoring him.\n\n\nBill,\n\nI'm sorry to have been busy lately and only just be getting around to\nthis.\n\nApparently you have some fundamental confusions about atheism; I think\nmany of these are well addressed in the famous FAQ.  Your generalisms\nare then misplaced -- atheism needn't imply materialism, or the lack\nof an absolute moral system.  However, I do tend to materialism and\ndon't believe in absolute morality, so I'll answer your questions.\n\n\nAn atheist judges value in the same way that a theist does: according\nto a personal understanding of morality.  That I don't believe in an\nabsolute one doesn't mean that I don't have one.  I'm just explicit,\nas in the line of postings you followed up, that when I express\njudgment on a moral issue I am basing my judgment on my own code\nrather than claiming that it is in some absolute sense good or bad.\nMy moral code is not particular different from that of others around\nme, be they Christians, Muslims, or atheists.  So when I say that I\nobject to genocide, I'm not expressing anything particularly out of\nline with what my society holds.\n\nIf your were to ask why I think morality exists and has the form it\ndoes, my answer would be mechanistic to your taste -- that a moral\ncode is a prerequisite for a functioning society, and that humanity\nprobably evolved morality as we know it as part of the evolution of\nour ability to exist in large societies, thereby achieving\nconsiderable survival advantages.  You'd probably say that God just\nmade the rules.  Neither of us can convince the other, but we share a\ncommon understanding about many moral issues.  You think you get it\nfrom your religion, I think I get it (and you get it) from early\nchildhood teaching.\n\n\nI think you've been reading the wrong sort of comic books, but in\nprying through the gobbledygook I basically agree with what you're\nsaying.  I do believe that my mental reactions to stimuli such as \"God\ncommanded the genocide of the Canaanites\" is mechanistic, but of\ncourse I think that's true of you as well.  My reaction has little to\ndo with whether God exists or even with whether I think he does, but\nif a god existed who commanded genocide, I could not consider him\ngood, which is supposedly an attribute of God.\n\n\nHmm.  Yes, I think some heavy FAQ-reading would do you some good.  I\nhave as much place discussing values etc. as any other person.  In\nfact, I can actually accomplish something in such a discussion, by\nframing the questions in terms of reason: for instance, it is clear\nthat in an environment where neighboring tribes periodically attempt\nto wipe each other out based on imagined divine commands, then the\nquality of life will be generally poor, so a system that fosters\ncoexistence is superior, if quality of life is an agreed goal.  An\nabsolutist, on the other hand, can only thump those portions of a\nBible they happen to agree with, and say \"this is good\", even if the\nact in question is unequivocally bad by the standards of everyone in\nthe discussion.  The attempt to define someone or a group of people as\n\"excluded from discussion\", such that they \"cannot participate\", and\ntheir opinions given \"no weight whatsoever\" is the lowest form or\nreasoning (ad hominem\/poisoning the well), and presumably the resort\nof someone who can't rationally defend their own ideas of right,\nwrong, and the Bible.\n-- \nJim Perry   perry@dsinc.com   Decision Support, Inc., Matthews NC\nThese are my opinions.  For a nominal fee, they can be yours.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Hi Stephen\nEar wax is a healthy way to help prevent ear infections, both by preventing\na barrier and also with some antibiotic properties.  Too much can block the\nexternal auditory canal (the hole in the outside of the ear) and cause some \nhearing problems.  It is very simple, and safe, to remove excess wax on your\nown, or at your physician's office.  You can take a syringe (no needles!) and\nfill it with 50% warm water (cold can cause fainting) and 50% OTC hydrogen\nperoxide.  Then point the ear towards the ceiling ( about 45 degrees up)\nand insert the tip of the syringe (helps to have someone else do this!) and  \nfirmly expell the solution.  Depending on the size of the syringe and the\ntenacity of the wax, this could take several rinses.  If you place a bowl \nunder the ear to catch the water, it will be much drier :-).  You can buy\na syringe with a special tip at your local pharmacy, or just use whatever\nyou may have.  If wax is old, it will be harder, and darker.  You can try\nadding a few drops of olive oil into the ear during a shower to soften up\nthe wax.  Do this for a couple days, then try syringing again.  It is also\nsafe to point your ear up at the shower head, and allow the water to rinse\nit out.\nGood Luck\n-heather\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":": >\n: >\tOn Tuesday, when it was raining in Chicago, ESPN provided \n: >bonus hockey coverage.  Now it seems as though some fans are ticked off\n: >that the NY-Wash OT was replaced with the Angels-?? game.  People must\n: >realize that there are more baseball fans instead of hockey fans in the U.S  \n: >The baseball game was scheduled to air and advertisers money was paid so\n: >they can't skip the baseball game.  Why don't you people CHILL OUT\n: >and enjoy whatever coverage you can get.\n\nWell, partly because I, as an ardent fan of both sports, would rather\nsee Game 3 of the NHL playoffs than Game 3 of 162 of the MLB\nseason (even if the bb game involves the Red Sox).\t\n\nESPN may have had contractual obligations. I understand that part.\nBut it's a bit inaccurate to call us \"selfish\" just because we want\nto watch the watch the game we love. Am I, as a baseball fan, \"selfish\"\nwhen I get pissed a CBS for showing approximately one game per month?\nI don't think so.\n\nWhile, ESPN may have contractual obligations, we, as their consumers,\nhave a right to voice our displeasure with how they are serving us.\nThere's certainly nothing wrong with that.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Hey man! -\n\nHaving spent the past season learning to skate and having played a\ncouple of sessions of mock hockey, I'm ready to invest in hockey\nequipment (particularly since I will be taking summer 'hockey\nlessons').  However, I am completely and profoundly ignorant when it\ncomes to hockey equipment.  I've checked out local stores and looked\nat catalogs, but I was hoping to solicit opinions\/suggestions before\nactually plunking down any money.  Having played football in high\nschool and college I at least have that equipment as a basis for\ncomparison.  But for example what are the advantages\/disadvantages to\ndifferent kinds of shoulder pads and pants\/girdles?  Are there any\nnotoriously bad or unsafe brands or styles?  etc.  So any suggestions\nor comments would be greatly appreciated.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nI keep my 13\" apple trinitron and IIsi on for months at a time...doesn't\nseem to cause any problems.\n\n\n\n+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+\n\n \/~~~~~~~\\\n\\_____    |\n      |   | TTTTTT EEEEE VV     VV EEEEE     |\n      |   |   TT   EE     VV   VV  EE        |\n \/---\/    |   TT   EEEE    VV VV   EEEE      | Steve Liu                    |","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Any lock including the Kyptonite utypes are EASY to break into if the person has\nthe proper supplies and\/or motivation. 3 minutes and your bike is gone!\nI would be glad to explain but I dont want to contribute to any unlawful\nactivities. Especially since I have a bike that I would hate to see ripped off\nby such a trival tactic. WARNING NO lock alone is a safe deterent against theft,\nthe thief doesnt need to be a locksmith or a lock-picker to walk away with your\nproperty!  I personally think motion alarms in combination to a lock\nof this type is the way to go if in fact you are that concerned.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I'm having a slight problem with the POV raytracer.  I'm not sure if\nthis is the correct group to post to or not.  I create .tga files on\na unix machine using pov.  Then when i download them to display on my pc,\nthey're listed as bad files.  But when I create the file on my pc, it displays\nfine.  Are unix .tga's incompatible with the pc?  An easy solution to this\nproblem would be a unix targa->gif converter.  Anyone know where I could\nfind one?  Any help on this subject is appreciated.  ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Keywords: Polk Sansui Akai Stereo\n\nFOR SALE: \n\nPolk RTA 12 speakers\nSansui 4900Z - 60 watt Rx\nAkai CSM 40 RM\n\n$500 or best offer.\n\nA friend asked me to post this for him.  If you are interested \nor want more information, call him; do not reply to me. Thanks.\n\nCall Carl\n609 466-9490","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I see it as the camel's nose.\n\nI'm willing to take my chances on winning the whole thing, personally.\n-Ekr\n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nAccording to my *Glossary of Astronomy and Astrophysics*:\n\"parsec (abbreviation for parallax second) \tThe distance at which\none astronomical unit subtends an angle of 1 second of arc.  1 pc =\n206,265 AU = 3.086 X 10^13 km = 3.26 lt-yr.\"\n\nGeorge","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n > Bruins have never come back to win after falling behind 2-0 in\n > their entire 68-year history.\n\n   Which doesn't mean much since the statistics are mostly based on\nthe 5-game playoff format. But, yes, it looks dark for the B's. What a\ndisappointment.\n\n   Still, I think the problem is mental. They needed the saves Blue\ncame up with, perhaps he can offer something to mentally rally around.\n\n   Who do you think gets the start in game three? I hope it is going\nto be Blue. If the team can rally around him, maybe Moog can too.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n\nIt isn't.  ;-)\n\nUse tar on the Un*x box and gtak110.zip on the DOS box. Needs ASPI driver.\n\n\nRalf\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
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{"text":"I have for sale 2 (TWO) x 1 MEG (70ns) SIMMS for the Macintosh aka fastones.\nIf you are interested, please email an offer.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n        I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but since the majority\nof the contributors (and may be even readers) of this newsgroup seem\nto be muslims, christians and jews, my question could be of some \ninterest to any of them.\n        It's my impression that both Islam and Christianity pay great\nrespect to an obscure 1st century jewish lad from Judea\/Galilee. Why \nthey chose this particular jew among all possible jews is a mystery\nto me (personally, I prefer Woody Allen - his stories are much juicier)\n- but perhaps it's an accident of history.\n        Anyway, it seems that they may be talking about two different\njews. According to the New Testament his father's name was Joseph,\nwhile in Qur'an he appears as Zachariah.  \n        Who's right and why the name difference? I'm really curious.\n                David.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I noticed you post in comp.graphics and know a person with your name.  I was\nwondering if you used to live in Paxton Mass.  If so, I have a friend that\nwould like to say HI.\n\n\nSorry for the inconvience if this isn't who I think it is.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nSETRA SYSTEMS, 4 Nagog Park, Acton, MA 01720, Ph: (617) 263 - 1400\nSchaevitz Engineering,  US Rt. 130 & Union Ave., Pennsauken, NJ 08110\n     Ph: (710) 892 - 0714\n\nAccelerometers are not cheap, mainly because the outputs are fairly linear \nwith respect to acceleration.  You don't say what the range of acceleration \nyou want to measure is, and there are other ways in which to measure it \nother than using an accelerometer.  Additional information would be helpful \nto anyone who may respond.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Is it possible to have xdm put up a multi-line greeting?  If so, how do\nI specify such a thing in the Xresources file?  I don't have much\n(anything) for X books, so I can't look it up.  Thanks.\n\n\n-- \nMark Van Overbeke                   Systems Software Programmer\nComputing Services                  BITNET:    Mark@UMNMOR.BITNET   (VMS)\nUniversity of Minnesota, Morris     INTERNET:  Mark@caa.mrs.umn.edu (VMS) \nMorris, MN   56267           1-612-589-6378    mark@cda.mrs.umn.edu (Ultrix)","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
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{"text":"\nI like this statement, though for my own reasons.  Cost comparisons depend\na lot on whether the two options are similar, and *then* it becomes very\nrevealing to consider what their differences are.  Can Soyuz launch the\nLong Exposure Facility?  Course not.  Will the Shuttle take my television \nrelay to LEO by year's end?  Almost certainly not, but the Russians are\npretty good about making space accessible on a tight schedule.\n\nComparing S and SS points up that there are TWO active space\nlauncher-and-work-platform resources, with similarities and differences.\nWhere they are in direct competition, we may get to see some market\neconomics come into play.\n\ntombaker","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\nYou have clearly demonstrated that you do not even know\nwhat my religion is in order to make that assumption.\n\n\nHow I can present any argument when you put your hands over your\neyes and devise new irrevelant excuses each time?  The fact remains,\nyou want to argue about something that you do not know anything about.\nDo you not have to learn a topic first before you can reasonably debate\nthe topic?  \n\nWhich brings us about to the start of this thread.  You began\nperverting Bible verses, interpreting them without investigation.\nFor if you desired to investigate, you would have changed your\ntune immediately.   Thus it is clear to me.  You do not believe\nwhat I am saying because \"you don't want to\" check it out.\n\n\nThen you must have also ignored every other post I have written\nto you.  This would seem to go along with your character.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"u920496@daimi.aau.dk (Hans Erik Martino Hansen) writes\n\n\nArthur C. Clarke was way ahead of you on this one... he wrote a short story\n(title?) in the 1950s describing exactly your proposal!","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nBill James is, however, very closely tied to STATS.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I'm waiting for June first to roll around when I can then get my \nhands on PC-Solaris...Unix for the Intel chip!  I know that there\nare many of other unix possibilities out there, but this includes\nthe Wabi (Windows API Binary Interface...I think) technology that wil\nrun Windows apps straight outta da box.  If this flies in enhanced mode,\nthen here's another contender to look out for in the corporate\/education\nmarket.\n\nToo big and complex for the home front...Windows 4\/Mac Sys7 will take those\nwhile Win4Wkgrps - NT - OS\/2 will fight it out for the small-to-mid businesses.\n\nHowever, once the PowerPC becomes available (especially in laptop\/notebook form)\nthen these will migrate into all markets....the ability to connect up to a unix\nmachine at work and yet still run Windows\/Mac apps at home is going to be real\nattractive to alot of people!!!\n\nJust my predictions.\n\nMike\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nNah, Cherry will only spew if Ulf was nailing \"a good Canadian boy\".\n\nWhat an idiot... if this is the heart and soul of Canadian patriotism, \nthen someone needs a new hobby...","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I am currently in the throes of a hay fever attack.  SO who certainly\nnever reads Usenet, let alone Sci.med, said quite spontaneously \"\nThere are a lot of mushrooms and toadstools out on the lawn at the\nmoment.  Sure that's not your problem?\"\n\nWell, who knows?  Or maybe it's the sourdough bread I bake?\n\nAfter reading learned, semi-learned, possibly ignorant and downright\nludicrous stuff in this thread, I am about ready to believe anything :-)\n\nIf the hayfever gets any worse, maybe I will cook those toadstools...\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nEverything we need to know about the seven seals is already\nin the bible.  There is no \"knowledge\" of the seals that\nKoresh could have.\n\nUnless the FBI were to kill all publishers of the bible, it\nwould seem the story of the seven seals would be bound to\nleak out.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nAlways has been??????\n\nEven before he was even conceived of? That's a neat trick.\n\nAlways will be??????\n\nWe leave a lot of room for error don't we.\n\nHopefully I missed an earlier post that this was with regard to otherwise ...\nwell I leave that to the individual to fill in but I will say what about\nGehrig! (shortened and not capitalized for the ease of the reader)\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nUnless the patient has a very short life expectancy, the possible complications\nfrom a hernia that hasn't been repaired far outweigh the risks of surgery.\nThe risks of surgery, anyway, are minimal. Unless they are exceedingly large,\nhernias can be fixed under local anesthesia. \nDon't forget that hernias are one the leading causes of small bowel obstruction.\nAnd the smaller the hernia is, the higher the chances that a loop of bowel will\nbecome incarcerated or strangulated.\n\n\n===============================","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\nAnd he pitched many not-so-outstanding ballgames, too.\n\nJack essentially pitched a lot of .500 ball last year.  This certainly\nisn't irrelevant, and iif you replace Morris with replacement level quality\nthe Blue Jays might not win.\n\nRe leadership, I don't see it.  If the leadership effect is there for\na starting pitcher, you would expect to see its primary effect on the\npitching staff.  You would expect to see the rest of the staff improve.\nInstead, the rest of the staff declined.\n\nYou can make a reasonable argument for Winfield providing leadership;\nthe offense picked up considerably from its effectiveness the previous\nyear. I'm not saying I buy that, but at least that argument makes\ninternal sense.\n\nGreg \n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nWell, the best thing to do is to read the book \"Parallel Universes\"\nby Dr. Fred Wolf. \n\nIn essence, Dr. Wolf says that one interpretation of the sub-atomic\nparticle\/wave duality is that what we perceive as a wave is actually\nan infinate number of parallel universes overlaid, and in each of\nthese universes there is a particle in a different location. When we\ndo something to make a particle \"appear,\" we are actually causing\nall the parallel universes to collapse into one. Apparently this is\none line of thought on the nature of QM, that is going through some\nof the scientific community.\n\nDr. Wolf (and many others) claim that somehow the collapse is caused\nby the mental effort of observing the particle. This implys that\nmind is more than merely a biological phenomenon. He then extrapolates\nthat if mind is an integral part of the universe, then perhaps consciousness\nis the element that gives order and form to the universe(s) it\/themself(s).\n\nIt all gets rather interesting, but what I find facinating is that\nthis would explain the phenomenon of \"magick\" as practiced in my\nreligion. Dr. Wolf speculates that the ordering functionality of mind\ncould be caused by the selection of a future from an infinite number of\npossible futures; he says that this might be done by some sort of\ncommunication between ones current, and possible future selves. \nI have long speculated that if magick is not merely a form of self\ndelusion then perhaps it could be caused by some sort of a selection\nof one of many possible futures.\n\nI realize that this gets pretty bizarre, but it never hurts to keep \nan open mind and at least file it all away as another possibile \nexplaination of the world in which we find ourselves. After all, the\nmore we learn about the universe in which we live, the more we learn\nthat it is truly a very strange place.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"   >I'm afraid this doesn't work either. We can pick up laptop screens without any\n   >problem. [...]\n\n   I heard somewhere (can't name the source) that TEMPEST does not necessarily\n   pick-up just CRTs, but it can pick up emissions from almost any chip.  If\n   that is true, the kind monitor would not make any difference becuase everything\n   on the screen can be picked-up from the video controller.  Can anybody verify\n   or refute this?\n\nYes, that's true.  TEMPEST is nothing magic, it's just listening to any\navailable electromagnetic emissions and using all the analysis techniques  \nyou know to separate out the interesting stuff. \n\nThe nice thing about old CRTs is that they used to put out LOTS of\nsignal, so they're easy to detect, and if you do your sync carefully,\nyou can watch the output on the monitor in your deceptively-marked\nChevy Step-Van.  Some brands of electric typewriters were even worse.\nIn both cases, it's especially nice because it gets you the data the\nuser is looking at, rather than whatever stuff the paging algorithm is\npaging out to disk, etc.\n\nWith newer, quieter equipment, there isn't as much signal, and it's harder to\nisolate the fun parts.  TEMPEST-rated equipment has much lower signal levels.\nBut \"Everything has vibrations\", as Master Chuan said.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"On the subject of ghostscript, it will also solve the earlier request\nof converting postscript to HPGL to filter into Interleaf.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nThink!\n\nIt's the SCSI card doing the DMA transfers NOT the disks...\n\nThe SCSI card can do DMA transfers containing data from any of the SCSI devices\nit is attached when it wants to.\n\nAn important feature of SCSI is the ability to detach a device. This frees the\nSCSI bus for other devices. This is typically used in a multi-tasking OS to\nstart transfers on several devices. While each device is seeking the data the\nbus is free for other commands and data transfers. When the devices are\nready to transfer the data they can aquire the bus and send the data.\n\nOn an IDE bus when you start a transfer the bus is busy until the disk has seeked\nthe data and transfered it. This is typically a 10-20ms second lock out for other\nprocesses wanting the bus irrespective of transfer time.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI may be misreading you here.  Are you saying the American Revolution \nwasn't a good idea because it was bad odds?\n\nI kind of doubt that any revolution, armed or otherwise, was ever started \nwithout vast amounts of failed \"working within a system\".  A good sign of \na system being not worth preserving would probably be that very inability \nto work within it productively.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nThis is almost certainly a MacBinary file which is an encoded version\nof a mac file so the Resource fork and Data fork get preserved.\nYou need a program that converts this to a regular file. If this is a\nmacbinary file, you may have downloaded it in Text mode and is probably\ncorrupt (if you did). If you're using FTP to transfer it at any point make sure\nyou type \"binary\" first.\n\nIf you can open the file with a text editor and find\n(This file must be converted with Bin....\nat the top, it is a BinHex file and can be decoded with\nBinHex 4.0 (among other programs).\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I will take $375 for the whole package.  Original post follows:\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nArticle: 61358 of misc.forsale\nNewsgroups: misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers\nFrom: wgs1@Isis.MsState.Edu (Walter G. Seefeld)\nSubject: SyQuest internal 44 drive with 8 cartridges: sale or trade\nSummary: Will trade 350Mb for ~300Mb IDE, or sell for $450\nOrganization: Mississippi State University\nDistribution: na\nDate: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 18:48:06 GMT\n\nThis drive is less than one year old.  The cartridges have all been bought\nsince then.  All is in excellent condition and still under warranty.\nDue to a change in system use, I now need a large, contiguous drive.\n\nOffer includes:\n\tSyDos 44i internal drive\n\tSCSI adapter card and cables\n\tAll original documentation\n\tSoftware\n\tAll original packaging\n\t8 cartridges totalling over 350Mb (no bad sectors or defects)\n\nThe installation was a breeze on my 386 clone.\n\nI will trade for something near 300Mb IDE, or sell for $450.\nI will also consider trading for 4 4Mx9 30 pin SIMMs at 70ns.\n--\nWalter G. Seefeld          |  By the dawn's early light,\n940 N. Jackson St. #1A     |  By all I know is right,\nStarkville, MS 39759       |  We're going to reap what we have sown.\nN5QXR                      |   -Jackson Brown \n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Here is how I modified my Quadra 700 for higher speed. Previously I\nhad been using a Variable Speed Overdrive for accelerating my CPU\nbut this modification is testing out as more stable at higher speeds.\n\nYour mileage may vary. The top speed you achieve cannot be predicted\nbefore hand. My personal Q700 has tested fine up to 32 mhz thus far.\nI didn't have higher speed clock oscillators on hand to test higher\nspeeds.\n\nParts\n\n\tClock Oscillators (4 pin TTL variety) You will need a selection of\n\tspeeds beginning at 50 mhz on up. The CPU will run at 1\/2 the\n\toscillator speed. The original one is a 50 mhz unit. I recommend\n\tgetting a 50 mhz clock in case you damage the existing one.\n\n\t   I obtained my clock oscillators from DigiKey 1-800-344-4539 for\n\t   less than $5.00 each. Some of their part numbers are:\n\n\t\t   50 mhz TTL Clock Oscillator (part # X121)\n\t\t   62 mhz TTL Clock Oscillator (part # X136)\n\t\t   66 mhz TTL Clock Oscillator (part # CTX137)\n\n\t   Don't get the half size clock oscillators. They won't fit.\n\n\t   There are also CMOS clock oscillators. I haven't tried one in a\n\t   Quadra. (They work fine in IIsi's)\n\t   \n\tSocket: Obtain a 4 pin socket which is in the same form factor as\n\t   a 14 pin DIP package. Alternatively, use 4 machined socket pins\n\t   from an Augat style socket. Just cut them out of the socket.\n\n\tCooling Fan: A very small 12 volt fan to keep the CPU cool is a \n\t   must. My VSO came with a specially modified heatsink which had\n\t   a fan built onto it. It had a pass-through connector which\n\t   tapped into the hard drive power cable. You should rig up \n\t   something similar or risk frying your CPU.\n\t   \nProcedure\n\n1)  Insert usual disclaimer and antistatic warnings here.\n\n2)  Remove the top lid of the machine. You will see the floppy disk and\n    hard drive mounted in a plastic tower. Follow the usual anti-static\n    precautions and of course make sure the machine is OFF when you do\n    this. Unplug ALL cables, wall and monitor power supply cords from\n\tthe back of the mac.\n \n3)  Remove the power supply by pulling the plastic interlocking tab on the\n    tower forward and simultaneously pulling the power supply straight up.\n    The tab is a piece of plastic from the left posterior aspect of the\n    tower which extends downward to hook on to the power supply. You may\n    also feel a horseshoe shaped piece at the right portion of the power\n    supply. Leave that alone. The plastic tab from the tower is all you\n    need release.\n \n4)  Look at the rear of the tower assembly. You will see the flat ribbon\n    SCSI connector to the hard drive, a power cable and a flat ribbon cable\n    leading to the floppy drive. Disconnect all these from the motherboard.\n    The hard drive power cable connector has a tab which must be squeezed\n    to release it.\n                                            \n5)  Unplug the drive activity LED from its clear plastic mount\n\n6)  Look down the posterior, cylindrical section of the plastic tower. A\n    phillips head screw is at the base. Remove it, taking care not to drop\n    it into the case. A bit of gummy glue on your screwdriver is helpful\n    here.\n\n7)  Remove the tower assembly by pulling medially the plastic tab on the\n    right side of the tower. This tab prevents the tower from sliding\n\tposteriorly. Slide the entire tower assembly 1 cm posteriorly then\n\tlift the tower assembly straight up and out of the case.\n\n8)  Remove the interrupt switch assembly. It is a strangely shaped plastic\n    device at the left, front edge of the motherboard. Pull the middle,\n\trear plastic prong up and forward. The entire device will release.\n\t\n9)  Unplug the speaker cable. Squeeze the plastic tab on the speaker to\n    free it then swing it backwards to free it from the case.\n\t\n10) Remove the motherboard form the case. Lift the front right corner of\n    the motherboard about 1 mm. This allows it to clear the clear plastic\n\tPower light guide. Slide the motherboard forward about 1 cm. The\n\tmotherboard then comes directly out.\n\t\n11) Locate the 50 mhz clock crystal. It is a small metal box near the\n    CPU chip. Note and remember its orientation. The new clock oscillators\n\tmust be aligned with pin 1 in the same orientation.\n\t\n\tVery carefully desolder and remove the old clock oscillator. Some of\n\tthe pins may be bent over. Simply desolder then unbend them. Be sure\n\tyour desoldering iron is hot enough before heating the board.\n\t\n\tI used a suction desoldering iron to accomplish this task. This is\n\tNOT appropriate for a first soldering experience. The motherboard is\n\ta multi-layer design with very fine traces - easily damaged without\n\tproper care.\n\t\n12) Install your socket or socket pins where the old oscillator once was.\n\n13) Put a 50 mhz clock oscillator into the new socket. You could use the\n\told clock but it has solder on its pins. This may come of inside the\n\tsocket and cause corrosion problems later. I suggest using a new\n\t50 mhz clock.\n\t\n14) Install your cooling fan system to complete the modification.\n\t\n14) Reinsert the motherboard and slide it into place.\n\n15) Snap in the interrupt switch assembly and speaker to lock the mother\n    board firmly. Plug the speaker wire back into the motherboard.\n\t\n16) Reinstall the tower assembly by first placing the right wall of the\n    tower against the right wall of the case with the tower assembly about\n\t1 cm posterior of its intended position. Lower the tower assembly into\n\tplace while maintaining contact with the right wall of the case.\n    Once fully down, slide the tower assembly anteriorly until it clicks\n    into place.\n\t\n17) Reconnect the motherboard ends of the cables. DONT'T FORGET THE FLOPPY\n    DRIVE CABLE.\n\n18) Replace the phillips head screw\n\n19) Drop the power supply straight down into place until it clicks in.\n\n20) Plug the hard drive activity light back into its clear plastic mount.\n\n21) Reattach your cables and power cords. Cross your fingers and turn \n    on the Mac. It should make the usual power on chord. If it doesn't,\n\tsomething is amiss. Immediately turn of the power and recheck your\n\thandiwork. If all is not well, you have my sincere condolences.\n\t\n\tHopefully, all will work normally. Turn the machine back off and\n\treplace the 50 mhz clock oscillator with a faster one. Reboot and\n\tbe astounded. \n\t\n\tYou will need to fully test the machine for many hours before deciding\n\ta particular speed is truly usable. With my VSO, a machine lock-up\n\tmight take 8 hours of operation to occur. In the brief time since\n\tmodifying my clock oscillator (36 hours) I have not had a single\n\tproblem.\n\t\nGood Luck to all who attempt this modification. There is a small but real\nrisk, but you could well reach Quadra 950 speeds or higher with less than\n$50 in parts.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Can someone tell me which of the files that come with DW-3.1 go where\nand for what purpose?  What can be left out, for instance, if\nyou don't want to do background printing?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"What are people's opinions about laser detectors?  Escort makes a\nlaser detector, the Passport 1000, and claims it works fine.  However,\nI've talked to some people who have said that it will only work if you\nare lucky - i.e. if the cop happens to point his laser at a car in\nfront of you, and the laser beam happens to reflect back to your\ndetector.  Otherwise it won't work.  Regular radar, of course, travels\nin all directions; hence it is more detectable.  Any comments?\n\nEscort has a deal (till the end of April, I think), where if you buy\ntheir wideband (Passport 3200 - X, K, Ka) and laser detectors, you'll\nsave $60 off of buying them separately.  In this case, the addition of\nthe laser detector over the Passport 3200 is only $40 (i.e. Passport\n1000 normally costs $100).\n--\nEddie Gornish\nUniversity of Illinois - Center for Supercomputing Research & Development","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Just a side note, squid\/octopi made their way to the ice in Buffalo.\nI still don't understand why Buffalo, but maybe it's lucky.  :-)  btw,\nthey shovel them up from the ice here, using the shovel used to scoop\nup the snow the zamboni leaves as it leaves the ice.  Although Blue\ndid give some technical directions on its removal, motioning with his\nstick.  \n\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nThere it is.  The Constitution isn't for \"sociopaths\", only \"normal\"\npeople, eh?  We mustn't allow our Constitution to be cheapened by applying\nit to everybody, eh?\n\nYou disgust me.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Can anybody tell me anything about the availibility of non-Roman fonts\nfor X-Windows? Especially Unicode and\/or han idiographic fonts.\n\nAlso, how about conversion tools for getting PC\/Macintosh fonts into a\nformat suitable for X? I would assume it is not too difficult for\nbitmap fonts.\n\nThe FAQ's for this group and comp.fonts are not very helpful on these\nquestions. ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Is there anyone out there with a copy of the driver for Turtle\nBeach's Samplevision program that allows you to use a Always Tech\nIN-2000 SCSI card to do SMDI dumps between your PC and your\nPeavey DPM-SP \/ SX \/ SX2 ???  \n\n   This is normally only available directly from Turtle Beach but I\nwas just wondering if there was someone who got it and couldn't\nfind a use for it..\n\n   If you have a copy let me know!","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n[ This would make me a bit suspect of Mr. Ramsey's qualifications\nas a self-styled \"expert\", in fact, when I read about anybody\nusing virtual memory regularly I kind of wonder ... ;-) ]\n\nYes, one can sometimes get away with running a newer ROM (of the \ncorrect size, obviously) in an older machine, but one should be \nprepared for problems if running software that checks for machine \ntype rather than ROM trap availability and then draws incorrect \nconclusions when special-casing - especially timing-dependent\nand driver-related stuff.\n\nIn this particular case I see no reason to go to the trouble \nof ROM-swapping.  The Apple 32-bit enabler has problems, but\nMODE32 works just fine with 7.0, 7.0.1, and 7.1.\n\n\nSure.  Buy a used IIci motherboard.  Call Pre-Owned Electronics,\nShreve, or other parts dealers (see the back of Computer Shopper\nor one of the Mac trades for phone numbers) and ask for a price\non a IIci ROM.  Everything has a price.  If you happen to find\nsomebody who salvaged a IIci with a dead motherboard, you might\nget a decent price.  There is probably a market for used mother-\nboards as well, so they might sell a ROM anyway.\n\n\nAsk for a quote and then try offering less?  Pre-Owned and\nShreve have been known to dicker.  Their ads in various trade\nmagazines often list considerably different prices for the \nsame items, and their phone quotes tend to vary as well.\n\nStill, I'm not aware of any technical reason for upgrading \nthe ROM in a IIx.  ","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"No.  Do this.\n\nHave the DC-X1, make an unscheduled landing at teh 50 yard\nline during the halftime show of This years Superbowl.\n\nABC  will have more reporters there  for that,  then at\nany news event.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
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{"text":"To the media, \"religion\" and \"cult\" have about the same relative\nconnotations as \"government\" and \"terrorist group\".\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"[sorry, had to take out tx.motorcycles because\nmy news server rejected it. -- hesh]\n\n: it would be a shame to split boxer riders between different lists\n: unless, of course, the existing list failed to meet the readers'\n: needs.\n\nyou presumed you needed to \"split\" out a GS list.\nby implication of your \"split\", a plain ol' bmw\nlist wouldn't meet the GS riders' needs.\n\nfor the sake of not forcing the split issue,\nhow about changing the charter and renaming\nyour list from bmw-gs to just bmw?  would that\nmake everybody happy?\n\ni think you'd get better participation this way.\nand joe wouldn't have to burden his 286.  :-)","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I'm looking for the following article:\n\n\t``The War Within: an Anatomy of Lust''\n\tLeadership 3 (1985), pp 30-48\n\nI've looked in the libraries of 3 UK Bible Colleges, but none of them subscribe\nto the Magazine (its a US publication, btw). If anyone has access to this\narticle and would be willing to post me a photocopy (I presume that copyright\nrestrictions will allow this?), please e-mail me. Thanks,","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I am looking at getting a laptop for work and I was trying to decide\nbetween the Toshibas and Gateway's Nomad.  The price is about the same, \nbut the Gateway has significantly better performance (200MB vs. 120MB \nhard drive, 50Mhz 486DX2 vs.  25Mhz 486SL) and much cheaper accessories \n(extra batteries, modem...)\n\nThe concern I have about Gateway is the durability and reliability.\nDoes anyone out there have any experience with the Gateway Nomad?\n\nThanks,","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\nWell lets see - a long haired nut case with sexual hangups surrounded\nby a lot of gulible losers without a brain between them with a miserable\nand meaningless death to boot\n\nSounds like he fits the bill to me!\n\nJoseph 'Remember David Koresh fried for you' Askew\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Remember that the UNIX versions of PoV don't create TGA but QRT file\nformat output by default. +ft is needed to make TGA.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"try  cd'ing to\n\n\tpublications\/May_93_online\n\non siggraph.org\n\nIt's there!","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nYou're blowing smoke.  Qualcomm wants to sell to nice, lucrative overseas\nmarkets like Japan and the EC.  The government told them \"don't do encryption\nif you ever hope to export this technology\".  The reason that CDMA doesn't\nhave encryption is NOT because the G-men came a'knocking at Qualcomm's door.\nIt's because Qualcomm doesn't think that the US market for digital cellular\nis big enough for them.  This is just the International Traffic in Arms\nRegulations all over again.\n\nIf you don't believe me, call Qualcomm and ASK THEM.  Don't just throw\nout conspicracy theories.  At least, don't do it on sci.crypt--there are\nwhole other newsgroups devoted to this kind of uninformed claptrap.\n\n\nHah.  They're not that much more expensive.  Besides, if a drug dealer\ncan afford a Rolex and a Mercedes, he can darn well afford Cylink phones.\nNo, Cylink sells their phones because they're willing to make different\nstuff for domestic use vs. export.  Qualcomm isn't.  So Cylink makes\nmoney--that's capitalism, comrade.\n\n\n\"Someone\" this and \"someone\" that.  If you think it's so easy, why are\nyou whining on the net instead of getting your butt in gear and writing\nit?  Your name would become known and loved by dozens!  But no, that would\nrequire actual EFFORT.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\t[...deleted...]\n\nAt least you're consistent.  I'm sure the highly propagandized Germans\ntended to believe their government's version too in the thirties and\nforties as those \"different\" highly demonized Jewish \"cultists\" met\ntheir fate.  Always trust your government.\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nNo wonder he became confused!  With so many drugs, it is almost impossible\nto know which one is causing the problem.  And because some drugs \npotentiate the effect of each other, they can make the side effects\nall the worse, and even dangerous.  (kinda like mixing alcohol and \nantihistamines!)\n\n\nUnfortunately, doctors prescribe drugs to treat the side effects of\nthe drugs a patient is receiving.  If one drug they are taking causes\nthe patient's blood pressure to go up, many times an antihypertensive\nis prescribed instead of re-evaluating the need for the original drug.\nThis is why many older adults are trying to take a dozen or so drugs\nat home!!!!\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I am posting for my brother, but please reply to this account and I will\nforward the messages.\n\nThe Powerbook is in excellent shape, five months old, and was purchased abroad.\n(I haven't seen it)\n\nFor details, send  e-mail. ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I know it's only wishful thinking, with our current President,\nbut this is from last fall:\n\n     \"Is there life on Mars?  Maybe not now.  But there will be.\"\n        -- Daniel S. Goldin, NASA Administrator, 24 August 1992\n\n-- Ken Jenks, NASA\/JSC\/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office\n      kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov  (713) 483-4368","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I like what Mr. Joseph Biden had to say yesterday 5\/11\/93 in the senate.\n\nCondemening the european lack of action and lack of support to us plans \nand calling that \"moral rape\".\n\nHe went on to say that the reason for that is \"out right religious BIGOTRY\"\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"C'mon you guys.  \nMotorcycles & booze don't mix. \nNuff said.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Hello Gang,\n\nThere have been some notes recently asking where to obtain the DARWIN fish.\nThis is the same question I have and I have not seen an answer on the\nnet. If anyone has a contact please post on the net or email me.\n\nThanks,","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"****UNIX****UNIX****UNIX****UNIX****UNIX****UNIX****UNIX****\n\nFORSALE:\n\n        ESIX UNIX System V Release 4 - NEW!\n        2 user license system - $400\n        Unlimited user license system - $450\n        2 user license system with dev kit - $500\n        Unlimited user license system with dev kit - $550\n\nThe above systems include all of the floppies or tapes and\ninstalation manuals. They are new and have never been\ninstalled before. Market value for the above systems is\nabout $1500 US! If you are interested, please contact me\nat 416-233-6038.\n\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nWrong about what?   I think they are correct in thinking that a \nwell-placed bomb or six would get headlines, but I think they are \nwrong if they think that you can set off bombs and still be a \nBuddhist.\n\nMaybe what we are seeing here is that Chinese cultural genocide\nagainst the Tibetans has worked well enough that some Tibetans \nare now no longer Buddhist and are instead willing to behave like\nthe Chinese occupiers.   Every action is its own reward.\n\n\nOn the other hand, people who are aware of the occupation are mostly\nfull of admiration for the peaceful way that Tibetans have put up\nwith it.   And what does it cost us to admire them?   Zip.\n\n\nYes they are, and whether this serves them well or not depends on \nwhether they want Buddhist principles or political independence.\nAnd without political independence can they preserve their cultural\nand religious traditions?\n\n\nThe Chinese would certainly refer to them as terrorists, just as\nthe Hitler regime used to refer to European resistance movements\nas terrorists.\n\n\nBetter off in what way?   As proponents of pacifism or as \nproponents of political autonomy?\n\nAnd better off in what time-scale?   The Soviet Empire practised\ncultural genocide against something like a hundred small minorities,\nsome of which resisted violently, and some of which did not, but\nin the end it was the Soviet Empire that collapsed and at least\nsome of the minorities survived.\n\nNow some of the minorities are fighting one another.    Is that\nbecause they have to, or because violent resistance to an oppressive\nEmpire legitimized violence?","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nSince neither side would be particularly interested in telling the truth,\nyou have to weigh the 'facts' given by each yourself, and weigh it with\nthe newsreporting if you care.\n\nMany cult members will probably side with the attorney, and if he\nis lying, change their stories to match his.  And if the Feds also\nlie, the cult members who become disillusioned will change their\nstories to match the Feds.  \n\nNeither sides are interested in the truth.  The Media is more interested,\nbut usually either don't have the time to get it straight or tie themselves\nto the ratings and deliberately distort.  \n\nFor me, though, the black soot billowing outside the compound added with\nhow fast the fire spread ponted to *someone* dousing large parts of the\ncompound with some sort of gasoline or fire-starter.  I doubt the Feds\ndid that as they were more interested in arresting Vernon.  The real\nunbalanced one (at least the one that lost his cool) was Vernon, so\nI figured that he was more likely to do it (after all he was Jesus \nbeing persecuted by the authorities, and had followers to hold onto,\nso made the decision.  He and his followers also probably felt that they\nwere rocketing to heaven by doing this stuff).  Thsi conclusion, I came\nto after umpteen million hours of listening to NPR and other radio\nshows (I always have the radio going when I am in my office on some\ninnocuous talk-show or news program as background noise).\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Need nice furnishings for your apartment or house?\n\nWe have glass topped wood (sides) and chrome (edging) (1)coffee and (2)end \ntables for sale.\n\nThe (1)coffee tables are approximately five feet in length and two feet \nwide.\n\nThe (2)end tables are 2.5 ft. X 2.5 ft.\n\nAll the glass is clear (no scratches).\n\nFirst $50.00 takes all!\n\nThanks for reading!\n\nArt","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nSure,\n\nEdmund Scientific Company\n101 E. Glouchester Pike\nBarrington, NJ, 08007-1380\n(609) 573-6250\n\nThe card is on page 15 of the last catalog I got. The cost ranges\nfrom $19.00US to $80.00US, depending on size and range of wavelengths\nthe card responds to.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I am in the market for (4) 1 megabyte SIMMS.  These must\n\tbe of the 9-chip variety, and also must be 60 nanoseconds.\n\n\tEmail: bitzm@columbia.dsu.edu\n\n\tThanks\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nWell, I know one person who is ready to kill.  Me.  And the victim is\nthis whole topic, damnit.  \n\nPLEASE STOP COPYING ALL THIS CRAP TO comp.org.acm.  PLEASE?\n-- ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Today Rush was criticizing Clinton for not claiming responsibility for the\nactions and decisions of Janet Reno and the  FBI  early enough to suit\nRush.\n\nAbout 2 months ago Rush was chortling over the fact that Reagan has stumped\n\"special persecutor Walsh\" with his croaking of \"I don't remember\" when\nasked about Ollie North.\n\nIf Rush's criticism of Clinton were to be applied to Reagan and North... \nReagan would have been impeached while North was convicted (and overturned on\na technicality).\n\nGosh, Rush sure wants to have it both ways... Clinton MUST be held \nresponsible, but Reagan was clever by using the \"amnesia defense\".","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
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{"text":"\n\n\n\n\tThey did last world cup and eventually lost tp Sweden in the final!","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"1993 World Championships in Germany:\n ====================================\n\n Group A results:\n\n RUSSIA - SWITZERLAND  6-0 (2-0,1-0,3-0)\n\n 1st: RUS 1-0  Alexei Yashin 1          5:23\n      RUS 2-0  Alexei Yashin 2         16:45\n 2nd: RUS 3-0  Ilia Biakin 1            7:13\n 3rd: RUS 4-0  Andrei Khomutov 3        3:47\n      RUS 5-0  Ilia Biakin 2            4:13\n      RUS 6-0  Sergei Sorokin 1        13:50\n\n Penalties: RUS 7*2min 1*5min game penalty, SWI 9*2min\n Referee: Rob Hearn, USA\n Attendance: 3,500\n\n- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -\n\n CANADA - AUSTRIA  11-0 (6-0,2-0,3-0)\n\n 1st: CAN  1-0  Shayne Corson 1         9:51\n      CAN  2-0  Rod Brind'Amour 2      10:24\n      CAN  3-0  Paul Kariya 1          12:42\n      CAN  4-0  Gerry Galley 1         18:23\n      CAN  5-0  Eric Lindros 2         19:11\n      CAN  6-0  Rod Brind'Amour 3      19:46\n 2nd: CAN  7-0  Eric Lindros 3          0:31\n      CAN  8-0  Eric Lindros 4          8:50\n 3rd: CAN  9-0  Brian Savage 1         13:37\n      CAN 10-0  Brian Benning 1        16:26\n      CAN 11-0  Geoff Sanderson 3      17:55\n\n Penalties: CAN 2*2min, AUT 2*2min\n Attendance: 7,500\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n USA - FRANCE  6-1 (3-1,1-0,2-0)\n\n 1st: FRA 0-1  Antoine Richer 1         5:02\n      USA 1-1  Adam Burt 1              8:32\n      USA 2-1  Rob Gaudreau 1          18:15\n      USA 3-1  Jeff Lazaro 1           18:29\n 2nd: USA 4-1  Adam Burt 2             10:54\n 3rd: USA 5-1  Shjon Podein 1           8:03\n      USA 6-1  Rob Gaudreau 2          16:25\n\n Penalties: USA 3*2min, FRA 2*2min\n Referee: Darren Loraas, Canada\n Attendance: 1,511\n\n- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -\n\n FINLAND - NORWAY  2-0 (0-0,0-0,2-0)\n\n 1st:\n 2nd:\n 3rd: FIN 1-0  Juha Riihijarvi 1        4:16\n      FIN 2-0  Kari Harila 1           12:37\n\n Penalties: FIN 5*2min, NOR 7*2min\n Referee: Sven-Erik Sold, Sweden\n Attendance: 3,600\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n The best goal scorers:\n\n Eric Lindros\t\tCAN\t4\n Rod Brind'Amour\tCAN\t3\n Dieter Hegen\t\tGER\t3\n Andrei Khomutov\tRUS\t3\n Geoff Sanderson\tCAN\t3\n Ilia Biakin\t\tRUS\t2\n Adam Burt\t\tUSA\t2\n Viacheslav Bykov\tRUS\t2\n Jiri Dolezal\t\tCZE\t2\n Mike Gartner\t\tCAN\t2\n Rob Gaudreau\t\tUSA\t2\n Patrik Juhlin\t\tSWE\t2\n Frank Pajonkowski\tFRA\t2\n Bernd Truntschka\tGER\t2\n Jarkko Varvio\t\tFIN\t2\n Alexei Yashin\t\tRUS\t2\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n Some WC stats:\n\n *  Fastest goal in a WC game after first face-off:\n\n    10 seconds:\t    Steve Larmer, Canada  1991 in a game vs Sweden (ended 3-3)\n                    Boris Michailov, USSR   1978\n\n *  Most consecutive WC games without a loss:\n\n    47:   USSR    1978-85\n    38:   USSR    1963-68\n    37:   Canada  1937-49\n    35:   USSR    1985-90\n    27:   Canada  1950-54\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"All,\n\nDuring my attempts to find out how the AT harddisk controller\nworks I stumbled across I\/O port 376h. The \"normal\" controller\nports are in the 1F0h-1F7h range, so what does this port do???\n\nThe only information I have upto now about this port is that it\nis a write only port and the information you have to write in it\nis related to the number of heads on the disks.\n\nCould somebody shed some light on this and give me the missing info.\n\nThanks,","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":": >But if entertainment (company) sell computer programs saying they are virus \n: >safe. Doesn`t they have burden of proof that viruses don`t exist in their \n: >floppies ?\n\n: I don't think so.  The assumption is there.  If it turns out that\n: their software has a virus, then it is up to you to prove that fact\n: to a court to get any damages.  You are theoretically suppossed to \n: be able to get damages for that, but you have to give some evidence\n: that the virus came from that software.  But since the computer\n: company is the defendent, they are uninvolved until proven guilty.\n\nAll right. I'm not and won't be lawyer. What about doctors?\nI going to fly aeroplane (or drive car). Doctors have to look for different\nkind of illnesses in me before I get permission to fly an aeroplane.\nThey have burden of proof that \"harmful illnesses don't exist in me\",\ndo they ?\n\n(I'm just questioning my belief that believers have the burden of proof.)\n\n: Please, not Pascal!  NOOOOO!! ;)\nOh!  Are you those bug-generator C-programmers  ? :-)\nTurbo Pascal is the BEST and FASTEST for edit-run-edit-run cycles !\n----------------------- ktikkane@phoenix.oulu.fi -------------------\n  Kari Tikkanen      !   .  . -#- !      b        !   begin  ","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
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{"text":"\n  Sorry, gotta disagree with you on this one Maddi (not the\n  resemblence to Bill.  The nickname).\n\n  I prefer \"Half\" Bake'd Timmons\n\n\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\ \n\nBob Beauchaine bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM \n\nThey said that Queens could stay, they blew the Bronx away,\nand sank Manhattan out at sea.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I have an Altos 2000 System V.3 Unix system for sale (I actually have two,\nbut one's for me). Several years ago these well-known machines sold for\n$30,000 for the base configuration. This particular one has much more than the\nbase configuration, depending on what you want:\n\n- 386 16 MHZ CPU.\n- 8 meg of ram.\n- Fifteen (15) serial ports (or more if you want)!\n- A multidrop port for up to 256 more serial ports!\n- Ethernet.\n- 5.25\" floppy drive.\n- QIC 24 cartridge tape drive.\n- 170 meg ESDI hard drive (either Micropolis or CDC, or both if you want).\n- Unix System V.3 installation.\n- Networking software package (TCP\/IP).\n- Development system software package (C compiler and libraries).\n\nI am asking only $700 (firm) for the system! If you want another Ethernet or\nserial card, add $50. Additional disks are $100 each (I can install a total of\nthree ESDI drives). I would consider a trade for a SCSI DAT tape drive.\n\nThis box would make a great BBS system or terminal server. It was originally\ndesigned to service 40 active users, and up to 70 moderately active users.\nThis is NOT a PC! It was designed to be a Unix box from the start, and it's\nvery fast and exceptionally reliable.\n\nIt's dimensions are approximately 2.5' high (tower), 8\" wide and 2\" deep.\n\nI am only interested in dealing with someone local enough to come pick it up.\nShipping is way too much hassle. Call if you wish, or send email.\n\nSteve Scherf\n\n(408) 736-2093 home\n(408) 559-5616 work\n\nsteve@moonsoft.com\nscherf@swdc.stratus.com\nNewsgroups: ba.market.misc,ba.market.computers,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computers.other\nSubject: FOR SALE: Altos 2000 Unix machine\nSummary: \nExpires: \nReferences:\nDistribution: \nOrganization: Moondog Software, Sunnyvale, CA.\nKeywords:\n\nI have an Altos 2000 System V.3 Unix system for sale (I actually have two,\nbut one's for me). Several years ago these well-known machines sold for\n$30,000 for the base configuration. This particular one has much more than the\nbase configuration, depending on what you want:\n\n- 386 16 MHZ CPU.\n- 8 meg of ram.\n- Fifteen (15) serial ports (or more if you want)!\n- A multidrop port for up to 256 more serial ports!\n- Ethernet.\n- 5.25\" floppy drive.\n- QIC 24 cartridge tape drive.\n- 170 meg ESDI hard drive (either Micropolis or CDC, or both if you want).\n- Unix System V.3 installation.\n- Networking software package (TCP\/IP).\n- Development system software package (C compiler and libraries).\n\nI am asking only $700 (firm) for the system! If you want another Ethernet or\nserial card, add $50. Additional disks are $100 each (I can install a total of\nthree ESDI drives). I would consider a trade for a SCSI DAT tape drive.\n\nThis box would make a great BBS system or terminal server. It was originally\ndesigned to service 40 active users, and up to 70 moderately active users.\nThis is NOT a PC! It was designed to be a Unix box from the start, and it's\nvery fast and exceptionally reliable.\n\nIt's dimensions are approximately 2.5' high (tower), 8\" wide and 2\" deep.\n\nI am only interested in dealing with someone local enough to come pick it up.\nShipping is way too much hassle. Call if you wish, or send email.\n\nSteve Scherf\n\n(408) 736-2093 home\n(408) 559-5616 work\n\nsteve@moonsoft.com\nscherf@swdc.stratus.com\nNewsgroups: ba.market.misc,ba.market.computers,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computers.other\nSubject: FOR SALE: Altos 2000 Unix machine\nOrganization: Moondog Software, Sunnyvale, CA.\n\nI have an Altos 2000 System V.3 Unix system for sale (I actually have two,\nbut one's for me). Several years ago these well-known machines sold for\n$30,000 for the base configuration. This particular one has much more than the\nbase configuration, depending on what you want:\n\n- 386 16 MHZ CPU.\n- 8 meg of ram.\n- Fifteen (15) serial ports (or more if you want)!\n- A multidrop port for up to 256 more serial ports!\n- Ethernet.\n- 5.25\" floppy drive.\n- QIC 24 cartridge tape drive.\n- 170 meg ESDI hard drive (either Micropolis or CDC, or both if you want).\n- Unix System V.3 installation.\n- Networking software package (TCP\/IP).\n- Development system software package (C compiler and libraries).\n\nI am asking only $700 (firm) for the system! If you want another Ethernet or\nserial card, add $50. Additional disks are $100 each (I can install a total of\nthree ESDI drives). I would consider a trade for a SCSI DAT tape drive.\n\nThis box would make a great BBS system or terminal server. It was originally\ndesigned to service 40 active users, and up to 70 moderately active users.\nThis is NOT a PC! It was designed to be a Unix box from the start, and it's\nvery fast and exceptionally reliable.\n\nIt's dimensions are approximately 2.5' high (tower), 8\" wide and 2\" deep.\n\nI am only interested in dealing with someone local enough to come pick it up.\nShipping is way too much hassle. Call if you wish, or send email.\n\nSteve Scherf\n\n(408) 736-2093 home\n(408) 559-5616 work\n\nsteve@moonsoft.com\nscherf@swdc.stratus.com\nNewsgroups: ba.market.misc,ba.market.computers,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computers.other\nSubject: FOR SALE: Altos 2000 Unix machine\nSummary: \nExpires: \nReferences:\nSender: \nFollowup-To: \nDistribution: \nOrganization: Moondog Software, Sunnyvale, CA.\nKeywords:\n\nI have an Altos 2000 System V.3 Unix system for sale (I actually have two,\nbut one's for me). Several years ago these well-known machines sold for\n$30,000 for the base configuration. This particular one has much more than the\nbase configuration, depending on what you want:\n\n- 386 16 MHZ CPU.\n- 8 meg of ram.\n- Fifteen (15) serial ports (or more if you want)!\n- A multidrop port for up to 256 more serial ports!\n- Ethernet.\n- 5.25\" floppy drive.\n- QIC 24 cartridge tape drive.\n- 170 meg ESDI hard drive (either Micropolis or CDC, or both if you want).\n- Unix System V.3 installation.\n- Networking software package (TCP\/IP).\n- Development system software package (C compiler and libraries).\n\nI am asking only $700 (firm) for the system! If you want another Ethernet or\nserial card, add $50. Additional disks are $100 each (I can install a total of\nthree ESDI drives). I would consider a trade for a SCSI DAT tape drive.\n\nThis box would make a great BBS system or terminal server. It was originally\ndesigned to service 40 active users, and up to 70 moderately active users.\nThis is NOT a PC! It was designed to be a Unix box from the start, and it's\nvery fast and exceptionally reliable.\n\nIt's dimensions are approximately 2.5' high (tower), 8\" wide and 2\" deep.\n\nI am only interested in dealing with someone local enough to come pick it up.\nShipping is way too much hassle. Call if you wish, or send email.\n\nSteve Scherf\n\n(408) 736-2093 home\n(408) 559-5616 work\n\nsteve@moonsoft.com\nscherf@swdc.stratus.com\nNewsgroups: ba.market.misc,ba.market.computers,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computers.other\nSubject: FOR SALE: Altos 2000 Unix machine\nOrganization: Moondog Software, Sunnyvale, CA.\n\nI have an Altos 2000 System V.3 Unix system for sale (I actually have two,\nbut one's for me). Several years ago these well-known machines sold for\n$30,000 for the base configuration. This particular one has much more than the\nbase configuration, depending on what you want:\n\n- 386 16 MHZ CPU.\n- 8 meg of ram.\n- Fifteen (15) serial ports (or more if you want)!\n- A multidrop port for up to 256 more serial ports!\n- Ethernet.\n- 5.25\" floppy drive.\n- QIC 24 cartridge tape drive.\n- 170 meg ESDI hard drive (either Micropolis or CDC, or both if you want).\n- Unix System V.3 installation.\n- Networking software package (TCP\/IP).\n- Development system software package (C compiler and libraries).\n\nI am asking only $700 (firm) for the system! If you want another Ethernet or\nserial card, add $50. Additional disks are $100 each (I can install a total of\nthree ESDI drives). I would consider a trade for a SCSI DAT tape drive.\n\nThis box would make a great BBS system or terminal server. It was originally\ndesigned to service 40 active users, and up to 70 moderately active users.\nThis is NOT a PC! It was designed to be a Unix box from the start, and it's\nvery fast and exceptionally reliable.\n\nIt's dimensions are approximately 2.5' high (tower), 8\" wide and 2\" deep.\n\nI am only interested in dealing with someone local enough to come pick it up.\nShipping is way too much hassle. Call if you wish, or send email.\n\nSteve Scherf\n\n(408) 736-2093 home\n(408) 559-5616 work\n\nsteve@moonsoft.com\nscherf@swdc.stratus.com\nNewsgroups: ba.market.misc,ba.market.computers,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computers.other\nSubject: FOR SALE: Altos 2000 Unix machine\nSummary: \nExpires: \nReferences:\nSender: \nFollowup-To: \nDistribution: \nOrganization: Moondog Software, Sunnyvale, CA.\nKeywords:\n\nI have an Altos 2000 System V.3 Unix system for sale (I actually have two,\nbut one's for me). Several years ago these well-known machines sold for\n$30,000 for the base configuration. This particular one has much more than the\nbase configuration, depending on what you want:\n\n- 386 16 MHZ CPU.\n- 8 meg of ram.\n- Fifteen (15) serial ports (or more if you want)!\n- A multidrop port for up to 256 more serial ports!\n- Ethernet.\n- 5.25\" floppy drive.\n- QIC 24 cartridge tape drive.\n- 170 meg ESDI hard drive (either Micropolis or CDC, or both if you want).\n- Unix System V.3 installation.\n- Networking software package (TCP\/IP).\n- Development system software package (C compiler and libraries).\n\nI am asking only $700 (firm) for the system! If you want another Ethernet or\nserial card, add $50. Additional disks are $100 each (I can install a total of\nthree ESDI drives). I would consider a trade for a SCSI DAT tape drive.\n\nThis box would make a great BBS system or terminal server. It was originally\ndesigned to service 40 active users, and up to 70 moderately active users.\nThis is NOT a PC! It was designed to be a Unix box from the start, and it's\nvery fast and exceptionally reliable.\n\nIt's dimensions are approximately 2.5' high (tower), 8\" wide and 2\" deep.\n\nI am only interested in dealing with someone local enough to come pick it up.\nShipping is way too much hassle. Call if you wish, or send email.\n\nSteve Scherf\n\n(408) 736-2093 home\n(408) 559-5616 work\n\nsteve@moonsoft.com\nscherf@swdc.stratus.com","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I recently sold my Nighthawk in order to upgrade to a zippy little sport\nbike.  I am, however, partial to the bigger zippy bikes like the GSX-R 750.\n\nThere is only one in my town for sale, and he is not sure whether he wants\nto part with it or not!\n\nPlease send me email if you would like to sell yours, know of one for sale,\nor could just offer details on the performance of yours even if you wouldn't\nsell.\n\nI appreciate any help!\n\nTHE HYPEMAN","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I need quotes from Jefferson, Hamilton, Madison, or any of the other founders,\nthat support the idea that the Second Amendment was written into the\nConstitution so that the populace could protect itself it the government\nbegan to degenerate into tyrrany. If you have any (with sources), please\nmail them to me. Thanks.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Hosfelt\nT-1 stock # 25-214\nT-1-3\/4   # 25-213\nBoth $1.29 - Vf 3.0..3.4, 470nm, 3mcd @ 10ma, Mfg Liton\nCall 1-800-524-6464\nDisclaimer - dont know these guys from a bar of soap, but the price\nlooks reasonable.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nAs will I, and the Ultimate Lurker.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"In my opinion, the limited tort option is the best thing Casey has ever\ndone. Basically, limited tort means that you give up your right to sue\nfor pain and suffering, unless one of the following conditions is met:\n1. Your medical bills resulting from the accident exceed $X (where X is\nsome number like 50,000 -- I'm not sure of the exact number)\n\n2. The accident was caused by a drunk driver (I mean, the OTHER driver\nwas drunk)\n\n3. You get a good lawyer and have a good case (basically, you can appeal\nto regain your right to sue, but there's almost no chance of this ever\nhappening).\n\nYou are only giving up your right to sue for pain and suffering; you can\nstill sue for medical costs, actual damages, etc. By agreeing to limited\ntort, you are essentially giving up your right to be an asshole who\ntreats every accident as an entry into the litigation lottery. In\nexchange, you get a substantial reduction in your rates. I save\n$150\/year.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"My first encounter with a dog chasing after my bike was on my first poker run.\nA big german shepard ran out into the pack of bikes I was riding with and tried \nto bite the right leg of the guy riding in front of me. He kicked the dog a \ncouple of times (we were all only going about 10-15mph) and just made the dog\nangrier and got away by applying WFO and outrunning the dog who then started\nafter yours truly. At the time, I had open drag pipes (obnoxiously loud as hell)\nand as soon as the dog was about 2 feet away from the right side of my bike, I\npulled in the clutch and revved the motor up to about 5000rpm and the roar of\nthe pipes frightened the dog away (probably made the dog's ears hurt like hell)\nand he didn't come back for the rest of the bikers behind me either. \n\nMy second encounter was with an already deceased road-kill dog. I wasn't paying \nvery close attention to the pavement when the car in front of me straddled the\ncarcass. I looked down just in time to see what I was about to run over so I \njust held onto the handlebars and freaked out. Both wheels went squarely over\nthe dog's belly with a thump-thump just like running over a piece of a 4x4\nlumber. The bike didn't lose any stability at all and I kept on going. After\nI got to my destination, I found bits of fur, meat, and blood stuck to\nthe bottom of my motor and frame...... gross.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
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{"text":" \n \nJanet Reno, the FBI, et al were nothing but pawns in Koresh's game.\nHe was a madman who was going to hurt the children, and everyone\nelse in the compound no matter what the FBI did.\n \n \nSuch a hostage situation has taken place on numerous occasions\nwith the result of the police trying to take the place by\nforce and the result being the death of the hostages and the\ngunmen. However, this is the first time I've heard of\nthe blame landing squarely on the police.\n \nIn this country we have a policy of not negotiating a back down\nfrom terrorists and hostage takers since that only encourages\nother terrorists and hostage takers.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nYes, that's him.  Was I not specific enough?\n\nJust because someone consistently pulls the ball does not mean that\nthey have a quick bat.  Dawson's release is slow, and he *IS* 38, after\nall.  He may swing early, and rotate his hips so that he hits the ball to \nthe left side all the time, but he swings slowly.\n\nAs for me disagreeing with Peter Gammons... Whoa!  That's never happened\nbefore!  Next thing you know, I'll probably believe Dave Campbell is the\nbiggest imbecile even to come near a mic, and that Ray Knight has\nthe IQ of drained crankcase oil.\n\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"WinFax Pro provides you with OCR. It is the OCR from OmniPage.\n\tAlthough it is not as customizable it does the job and is auto\n\tmatic (if you want) and much cheaper than the same package\n\t(Omni Page Professional = $700) sold separatly.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"These are comics I want to sell that are X-comic\/Mutant related.  All\nprices are at least 30% off the Overstreet price.  All are NM-M\ncondition, bagged and backed.  If you don't like these prices, make an\noffer!\n\nTITLE                                                   PRICE   \n--------------------------------------------------------------\nAlpha Flight 13 (Wolverine appears)\t\t\t$ 8.40\nAvengers  263 (1st Appearance X-Factor)\t\t\t$ 3.50\nDaredevil 196 (Wolverine appears)\t\t\t$ 8.40\nFantastic Four 347 (Art Adams art, Wolverine)\t\t$ 3.50\nFantastic Four 348 (Wolverine & Ghost Rider appear)\t$ 2.10\nFantastic Four 349 (Wolverinr & Ghost Rider appear)\t$ 2.10\nHavok and Wolverine: Meltdown 1 (Epic Comics)\t\t$ 2.80\nMarvel Comics Presents 1 (Wolverine, Silver Surfer)     $ 7.00\n\t\t       2 (Wolverine, Master of KungFu)\t$ 3.50\n\t\t       3 (Wolverine, Master of KungFu)\t$ 3.50\n\t\t       4 (Wolverine, Master of KungFu)\t$ 3.50\n\t\t       5 (Wolverine, Daredevil)\t\t$ 3.50\n\t\t       6 (Wolverine, Hulk)\t\t$ 2.80\n\t\t       7 (Wolverine, Submariner)\t$ 2.80\n\t\t       10 (Wolverine, Man-Thing)\t$ 2.80\n\t\t       11 (Man-Thing, Ant-Man)\t\t$ 1.40\n\t\t       12 (Man-Thing, Colossus)\t\t$ 1.40\n\t\t       13 (Black Panther, Shanna)\t$ 1.40\n                       14 (Black Panther, Nomad)        $ 1.40\n\t\t       17 (Ron Lim art, Black Panther)\t$ 1.40\n\t\t       18 (Ron Lim art, Black Panther)\t$ 1.40\n\t\t       19 (Rob Liefeld art, Cyclops)\t$ 1.40\n\t\t       20 (Ron Lim art, Black Panther)\t$ 1.40\n\t\t       21 (Ron Lim art, Black Panther)\t$ 1.40\n\t\t       22 (Ron Lim art, Black Panther)\t$ 1.40\n                       25 (Nth Man, Havok, Blk Panther) $ 1.40\n\t\t       26 (Black Panther, Havok, Hulk)\t$ 1.40\n\t\t       27 (Black Panther, Havok)\t$ 1.40\n\t\t       28 (Black Panther, Havok)\t$ 1.40\n\t\t       29 (Black Panther, Havok)\t$ 1.40\n\t\t       30 (Black Panther, Havok)\t$ 1.40\n\t\t       31 (Erik Larsen, Excalibur)\t$ 1.40\n                       52 (Rob Liefeld, Wolverine)      $ 2.10\n                       60 (Wolverine, Hulk)             $ 4.20\n                       62 (Jackson Guice, Deathlok)     $ 5.60\n                       63 (Poison, Thor, Scarlet Witch) $ 2.80\n                       64 (Mark Texiera, Ghost Rider)   $ 3.15\n                       65 (Mark Texiera, Ghost Rider)   $ 3.15\n                       66 (Mark Texiera, Ghost Rider)   $ 3.15\n                       67 (Mark Texiera, Ghost Rider)   $ 3.15 \n                       72 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)         $ 5.60 \n\t\t       73 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)\t\t$ 2.80\n\t\t       75 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)\t\t$ 2.10\n\t\t       76 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)\t\t$ 2.10\n                       77 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X,Dracula) $ 2.10 \n\t\t       80 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)\t\t$ 2.10\n\t\t       81 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)\t\t$ 1.75\n                       82 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)         $ 1.75\n                       83 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)         $ 1.75\n                       84 (B.W. Smith, Weapon X)        $ 1.75\n                       85 (1st Keith art and Jae Lee)   $ 4.20\n\t\t       97 (Ghost Rider, Cable)\t\t$ 1.40\n\t\t       104 (Wolverine, Ghost Rider)\t$ 1.05\n                       106 (Wolverine, Ghost Rider)     $ 1.05\nMarvel Fanfare 4 (X-Men\/Ka-Zar team-up, Deathlok app)   $ 4.20\nMarvel Team-Up 100 (1st Karma by Miller, Byrne X-men)\t$ 5.60\n\t       117 (Wolverine cover\/story)\t\t$ 8.40\nNew Mutants 18 (Intro new Warlock, Magus)               $ 6.30\n            88 (Rob Liefeld, 2nd Cable)                 $14.00\n            89 (Rob Liefeld, 3rd Cable)                 $10.50\n            90 (Rob Liefeld, Sabretooth appears)        $ 8.40\n            91 (Rob Liefeld, Sabretooth appears)        $ 8.40\n            93 (Rob Liefeld, Wolverine vs Cable)        $10.50 \n            94 (Rob Liefeld, Wolverine vs Cable)        $10.50\n            98 (1st app Deadpool, Gideon, Domino)       $ 8.40\n            100 (1st app X-Force)                       $ 6.30\n\t    Annual 4 (Evolutionary War)\t\t\t$ 2.10\n\t    Annual 5 (1st Liefeld art on New Mutants)\t$12.60\n\t    Annual 6\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.40\n            Annual 7 (2nd app X-Force)                  $ 8.40\n\t    Summer Special 1 (Art Adams art)\t\t$ 2.10\nPower Pack 27 (Wolverine and Sabretooth appear)         $ 7.00\nSpider-Man 16 (McFarlane\/Liefeld art, X-Force appears)  $ 3.00\nThor 374 (Mutant Massacre, X-Factor, Sabretooth app)    $ 5.60\nWolverine 10 (Before claws, 1st battle with Sabretooth)\t$16.80\n\t  41 (Sabretooth claims to be Wolverine's dad)\t$ 7.00\n\t  42 (Sabretooth proven not to be his dad)\t$ 3.50\n\t  43 (Sabretooth\/Wolverine saga concludes)\t$ 2.80\nWolverine 1 (1982 mini-series, Miller art)\t\t$21.00\nX-Factor 47                                             $ 1.05\n         51 (Sabretooth appears)                        $ 3.50\n         52 (Sabretooth appears)                        $ 3.50\n         53 (Sabretooth appears)                        $ 3.50\n\t 57 \t\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t 62 (X-Tinction Agenda, Jim Lee cover)\t\t$ 4.20\n\t 63 (Whilce Portacio art begins)\t\t$ 4.20 \n         69 (Whilce Portacio art)                       $ 1.40\n         70 (Last \"Old Team\" issue)                     $ 1.40\n         Annual 6 (New Warriors, X-Force appear)        $ 1.75\nX-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, X-Force card)     $25.00\n        1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Shatterstar card) $15.00\n        1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Deadpool card)    $15.00\n        1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Sunspot\/Gideon)   $15.00\n        1 (Bagged, Cable card)                          $ 4.20\nX-Men 226 (Fall of the mutants)\t\t\t\t$ 5.60\n      239 (Inferno)\t\t\t\t\t$ 2.80\n      245 (Rob Liefeld art)\t\t\t\t$ 2.10\n      267 (Jim Lee art series begins)\t\t\t$ 8.40\n      276 (Jim Lee art)\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.05\n      277 (Last Jim Lee art)\t\t\t\t$ 1.05\n      280\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.05\n      281 (New X-Men team, 1st printing)\t\t$ 4.20\n\nAll comics are in near mint to mint condition, are bagged in shiny \npolypropylene bags, and backed with white acid free boards.  Shipping is\n$1.50 for one book, $3.00 for more than one book, or free if you order \na large enough amount of stuff.  I am willing to haggle.\n\nI have thousands and thousands of other comics, so please let me know what \nyou've been looking for, and maybe I can help.  Some titles I have posted\nhere don't list every issue I have of that title, I tried to save space.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"On 21-Apr-93 in Re: ABORTION and private he..\nNot so in PA.  Recently the gender inequity in auto insurance was\nremoved.  Just a point.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"------------\n\nShaft: Bamboozle, beat, beguile, burn (or flame), deceive, hoax,\n       hoodwink.\n\nDrive: Campaign, crusade, push.\n\nSo, 'shaft drive' may be a campaign to decieve or a crusade of beguile,\nefforts where are true to the spirit of this list.\n\nWheel: revolution, swing\n\nCrusaders of beguile are innefective in revolutions and they cannot\nswing, either, therefore shaft drives cannot do wheelies.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"THE ELECTRONIC JOURNAL OF\n                  THE ASTRONOMICAL SOCIETY OF THE ATLANTIC\n\n                       Volume 4, Number 9 - April 1993\n\n                         ###########################\n\n                              TABLE OF CONTENTS\n\n                         ###########################\n\n          * ASA Membership and Article Submission Information\n\n          * The Soviets and Venus, Part 3 - Larry Klaes\n\n                         ###########################\n\n                         ASA MEMBERSHIP INFORMATION\n\n        The Electronic Journal of the Astronomical Society of the Atlantic\n    (EJASA) is published monthly by the Astronomical Society of the\n    Atlantic, Incorporated.  The ASA is a non-profit organization dedicated\n    to the advancement of amateur and professional astronomy and space\n    exploration, as well as the social and educational needs of its members.\n\n        ASA membership application is open to all with an interest in\n    astronomy and space exploration.  Members receive the Journal of the\n    ASA (hardcopy sent through United States Mail - Not a duplicate of this\n    Electronic Journal) and the Astronomical League's REFLECTOR magazine.\n    Members may also purchase discount subscriptions to ASTRONOMY and\n    SKY & TELESCOPE magazines.\n\n        For information on membership, you may contact the Society at any\n    of the following addresses:\n\n        Astronomical Society of the Atlantic (ASA)\n        c\/o Center for High Angular Resolution Astronomy (CHARA)\n        Georgia State University (GSU)\n        Atlanta, Georgia  30303\n        U.S.A.\n\n        asa@chara.gsu.edu\n\n        ASA BBS: (404) 321-5904, 300\/1200\/2400 Baud\n\n        or telephone the Society Recording at (404) 264-0451 to leave your\n    address and\/or receive the latest Society news.\n\n        ASA Officers and Council -\n\n        President - Eric Greene\n        Vice President - Jeff Elledge\n        Secretary - Ingrid Siegert-Tanghe\n        Treasurer - Mike Burkhead\n        Directors - Becky Long, Tano Scigliano, Bob Vickers\n        Council - Bill Bagnuolo, Michele Bagnuolo, Don Barry, Bill Black, \n                  Mike Burkhead, Jeff Elledge, Frank Guyton, Larry Klaes, \n                  Ken Poshedly, Jim Rouse, Tano Scigliano, John Stauter, \n                  Wess Stuckey, Harry Taylor, Gary Thompson, Cindy Weaver, \n                  Bob Vickers\n\n\n                             ARTICLE SUBMISSIONS\n\n        Article submissions to the EJASA on astronomy and space exploration\n    are most welcome.  Please send your on-line articles in ASCII format to\n    Larry Klaes, EJASA Editor, at the following net addresses or the above\n    Society addresses:\n\n        klaes@verga.enet.dec.com\n        or - ...!decwrl!verga.enet.dec.com!klaes\n        or - klaes%verga.dec@decwrl.enet.dec.com\n        or - klaes%verga.enet.dec.com@uunet.uu.net\n\n        You may also use the above addresses for EJASA back issue requests,\n    letters to the editor, and ASA membership information.\n\n        When sending your article submissions, please be certain to include\n    either a network or regular mail address where you can be reached, a\n    telephone number, and a brief biographical sketch.\n\n        Back issues of the EJASA are also available from the ASA anonymous \n    FTP site at chara.gsu.edu (131.96.5.29).  Directory: \/pub\/ejasa\n\n                                DISCLAIMER\n\n        Submissions are welcome for consideration.  Articles submitted,\n    unless otherwise stated, become the property of the Astronomical\n    Society of the Atlantic, Incorporated.  Though the articles will not\n    be used for profit, they are subject to editing, abridgment, and other\n    changes.  Copying or reprinting of the EJASA, in part or in whole, is\n    encouraged, provided clear attribution is made to the Astronomical\n    Society of the Atlantic, the Electronic Journal, and the author(s).\n    Opinions expressed in the EJASA are those of the authors' and not\n    necessarily those of the ASA.  This Journal is Copyright (c) 1993\n    by the Astronomical Society of the Atlantic, Incorporated.\n\n\n                             THE SOVIETS AND VENUS\n                                     PART 3\n\n                       Copyright (c) 1993 by Larry Klaes\n\n\tThe author gives permission to any group or individual wishing\n\tto distribute this article, so long as proper credit is given,\n        the author is notified, and the article is reproduced in its \n        entirety.\n\n        To the North Pole!\n\n        On June 2 and 7, 1983, two of the Soviet Union's mighty PROTON \n    rockets lifted off from the Tyuratam Space Center in the Kazakhstan \n    Republic.  Aboard those boosters were a new breed of VENERA probe \n    for the planet Venus. \n\n        Designated VENERA 15 and 16, the probes were meant not for landing\n    yet more spherical craft on the Venerean surface but to radar map the\n    planet in detail from orbit.  To accomplish this task, the basic\n    VENERA design was modified in numerous areas.  The central bus core\n    was made one meter (39.37 inches) longer to carry the two tons of\n    propellant required for braking into orbit, double the fuel carried by\n    the VENERA 9 and 10 orbiters eight years earlier.  Extra solar panels\n    were added on to give the vehicles more power for handling the large\n    amounts of data which would be created by the radar imaging.  The\n    dish-shaped communications antennae were also made one meter larger \n    to properly transmit this information to Earth. \n\n        Atop the buses, where landers were usually placed, were installed\n    the 1.4 by 6-meter (4.62 by 19.8-foot), 300-kilogram (660-pound)\n    POLYUS V side-looking radar antennae.  The radar system, possibly a\n    terrain-imaging version of the nuclear-powered satellites used by \n    the Soviets for Earth ocean surveillance, would be able to map Venus'\n    surface at a resolution of one to two kilometers (0.62 to 1.2 miles). \n\n        The Soviet probes' imaging parameters were a vast improvement over\n    the United States PIONEER VENUS Orbiter, which could reveal objects \n    no smaller than 75 kilometers (45 miles) in diameter.  And while the\n    VENERAs' resolution was comparable to that of similar observations \n    made by the 300-meter (1,000-foot) Arecibo radio telescope on the \n    island of Puerto Rico, the orbiters would be examining the northern\n    pole of Venus.  This region was unobtainable by either Arecibo or \n    PIONEER VENUS and appeared to contain a number of potentially \n    interesting geological features worthy of investigation.\n\n        On October 10, 1983, after an interplanetary journey of 330 \n    million kilometers (198 million miles) and two mid-course corrections, \n    VENERA 15 fired its braking rockets over Venus to place itself in a \n    polar orbit 1,000 by 65,000 kilometers (600 by 39,000 miles) around \n    the planet, completing one revolution every twenty-four hours.  VENERA \n    16 followed suit four days later.  The twin probes thus became Venus' \n    first polar-circling spacecraft.\n\n        Radar operations began on October 16 for VENERA 15 and October 20 \n    for VENERA 16.  For up to sixteen minutes every orbit over the north\n    pole, the probes would make a radar sweep of the surface 150 kilometers \n    (ninety miles) wide and nine thousand kilometers (5,400 miles) long.  \n    The craft would then head out to the highest part of their orbits over \n    the south pole to recharge their batteries and transmit the data back \n    to two large Soviet antennae on Earth.  Each strip of information took \n    eight hours to process by computer.  By the end of their main missions \n    in July of 1984, the VENERAs had mapped 115 million square kilometers \n    (46 million square miles), thirty percent of the entire planet.\n\n        VENERA 15 and 16 revealed that Venus has a surface geology more\n    complex than shown by PIONEER VENUS in the late 1970s.  Numerous hills, \n    mountains, ridges, valleys, and plains spread across the landscape, \n    many of them apparently formed by lava from erupting volcanoes in the \n    last one billion years.  In planetary terms this makes the Venerean \n    surface rather young.  Hundreds of craters were detected as well, the \n    largest of which had to have been created by meteorites (planetoids \n    would be a better term here) at least fourteen kilometers (8.4 miles) \n    across, due to Venus' very dense atmosphere.\n\n        There were some disagreements between U.S. and Soviet scientists\n    on the origins of certain surface features.  For example, the probes' \n    owners declared that the 96-kilometer (57.6-mile) wide crater at the \n    summit of 10,800-meter (35,640-foot) high Maxwell Montes, the tallest \n    mountain on the planet, was the result of a meteorite impact.  American \n    scientists, on the other hand, felt the crater was proof that Maxwell \n    was a huge volcano sitting on the northern \"continent\" of Ishtar Terra.  \n\n        In any event, the U.S. decided to wait on making verdicts about\n    Venus until the arrival of their own radar probe, scheduled for later\n    in the decade.  Originally named the Venus Orbiting Imaging Radar\n    (VOIR), its initial design was scaled back and the craft was redesig-\n    nated the Venus Radar Mapper (VRM).  Eventually the machine would be \n    called MAGELLAN, after the Portuguese navigator Ferdinand Magellan \n    (circa 1480-1521).  This vehicle would map the entire planet in even \n    finer detail than the VENERAs.  For the time, however, the Soviet \n    probes maintained that distinction.\n\n        Radar imaging was not the only ability of the VENERAs.  Bolted\n    next to the POLYUS V radar antenna were the Omega altimeter and the \n    Fourier infrared spectrometer, the latter for measuring the world's\n    temperatures.  The majority of the areas covered registered about\n    five hundred degrees Celsius (932 degrees Fahrenheit), but a few\n    locations were two hundred degrees hotter, possibly indicating \n    current volcanic activity.  The probes also found that the clouds \n    over the poles were five to eight kilometers (three to 4.8 miles) \n    lower than at the equator.  In contrast, the polar air above sixty \n    kilometers (thirty-six miles) altitude was five to twenty degrees \n    warmer than the equatorial atmosphere at similar heights.\n\n        When the main mapping mission ended in July of 1984, there were \n    plans for at least one of the VENERAs to radar image the surface at \n    more southernly latitudes.  Unfortunately this idea did not come to \n    pass, as the orbiters may not have possessed enough attitude-control\n    gas to perform the operation.  \n\n        VENERA 15 and 16 ceased transmission in March of 1985, leaving \n    the Soviet Institute of Radiotechnology and Electronics with six \n    hundred kilometers (360 miles) of radar data tape to sort into an \n    atlas of twenty-seven maps of the northern hemisphere of Venus.\n\n        Venus by Balloon\n\n        For years the thick atmosphere of Venus had been a tempting \n    target to scientists who wished to explore the planet's mantle of \n    air with balloon-borne instruments.  Professor Jacques Blamont of \n    the French space agency Centre National d'Etudes Spatiales (CNES)\n    had proposed such an idea as far back as 1967, only to have a joint \n    French-Soviet balloon mission canceled in 1982.  Nevertheless, \n    late in the year 1984, such dreams would eventually come true.\n\n        When two PROTON rockets were sent skyward on December 15 and 21, \n    the Soviet Union provided Western observers with the first clear, full \n    views of the booster which had been launching every Soviet Venus probe \n    since 1975.  This was but one of many firsts for the complex mission.\n\n        The unmanned probes launched into space that December were named\n    VEGA 1 and 2, a contraction of the words VENERA and GALLEI - Gallei\n    being the Russian word for Halley.  Not only did the spacecraft \n    have more than one mission to perform, they also had more than one \n    celestial objective to explore, namely the comet Halley.  \n\n        This famous periodic traveler was making its latest return to \n    the inner regions of the solar system since its last visit in 1910.\n    Since it was widely believed that comets are the icy remains from\n    the formation of the solar system five billion years ago, scientists \n    around the world gave high priority to exploring one of the few such \n    bodies which actually come close to Earth.  \n\n        Most comets linger in the cold and dark outer fringes of the solar \n    system.  Some, like Halley, are perturbed by various forces and fall \n    in towards the Sun, where they circle for millennia spewing out ice \n    and debris for millions of kilometers from the warmth of each solar \n    encounter.\n\n        The Soviet Union, along with the European Space Agency (ESA) and\n    Japan's Institute of Space and Astronautical Science (ISAS), did not\n    wish to miss out on this first opportunity in human history to make a\n    close examination of Halley.  The ESA would be using the cylindrical\n    GIOTTO probe to make a dangerously close photographic flyby of the \n    comet, while Japan's first deep space craft - SAKIGAKE (Pioneer) and \n    SUISEI (Comet) - would view Halley from a much safer distance. \n\n        Scientists in the United States also desired to study the comet\n    from the vantage of a space probe, at one time envisioning a vessel\n    powered by solar sails or ion engines.  However, government budget\n    cuts to NASA canceled the American efforts.  The U.S. would have to\n    make do primarily with Earth-based observations and the sharing of \n    data from other nations, though an instrument named the Dust Counter \n    and Mass Analyzer (DUCMA), designed by Chicago University Professor \n    John Simpson, was added on the Soviet mission in May of 1984.\n\n        The Soviets' answer to Halley were the VEGAs.  Instead of building\n    an entirely new craft for the mission, the Soviets decided to modify\n    their VENERA bus design to encounter the comet while performing an \n    advanced Venus mission along the way.  As VEGA 1 and 2 reached Venus,\n    the buses would drop off one lander\/balloon each and use the mass of \n    the shrouded planet to swing them towards comet Halley, much as the \n    U.S. probe MARINER 10 used Venus to flyby Mercury eleven years earlier. \n    The Soviet craft would then head on to Halley, helping to pinpoint the \n    location of the comet's erupting nucleus for the GIOTTO probe to dive \n    in only 605 kilometers (363 miles) away in March of 1986.\n\n        As planned, the two VEGAs arrived at Venus in June of 1985.  VEGA\n    1 released its payload first on the ninth day of the month, the lander\n    making a two-day descent towards the planet.  The craft touched the\n    upper atmosphere on the morning of June 11.  Sixty-one kilometers\n    (36.6 miles) above the Venerean surface a small container was released\n    by the lander, which produced a parachute at 55 kilometers (33 miles)\n    altitude.  Thus the first balloon probe ever to explore Venus had\n    successfully arrived. \n\n        One kilometer after the opening of the parachute, helium gas was\n    pumped into the Teflon-coated plastic balloon, inflating it to a\n    diameter of 3.54 meters (11.68 feet).  Dangling on a tether thirteen\n    meters (42.9 feet) below was the instrument package, properly known as\n    an aerostat.  The top part of the 6.9-kilogram (15.18-pound) aerostat\n    consisted of a cone which served as an antenna and tether attachment\n    point to the balloon.  Beneath it was the transmitter, electronics,\n    and instruments.  Connected at the bottom was a nephelometer for\n    measuring cloud particles.  The aerostat was painted with a special\n    white finish to keep at bay the corroding mist of sulfuric acid which\n    permeated the planet's atmosphere. \n\n        The VEGA 1 balloon was dropped into the night side of Venus just\n    north of the equator.  Scientists were concerned that the gas bag \n    would burst in the heat of daylight, so they placed it in the darkened \n    hemisphere to give the craft as much time as possible to return data.  \n    This action necessitated that the landers come down in the dark as \n    well, effectively removing the camera systems used on previous missions.  \n    The author wonders, though, if they could have used floodlights similar \n    to the ones attached to VENERA 9 and 10 in 1975, when Soviet scientists \n    had thought the planet's surface was enshrouded in a perpetual twilight \n    due to the permanently thick cloud cover.\n\n        The first balloon transmitted for 46.5 hours right into the day\n    hemisphere before its lithium batteries failed, covering 11,600\n    kilometers (6,960 miles).  The threat of bursting in the day heat did\n    not materialize.  The VEGA 1 balloon was stationed at a 54-kilometer\n    (32.4-mile) altitude after dropping ballast at fifty kilometers\n    (thirty miles), for this was considered the most active of the three\n    main cloud layers reported by PIONEER VENUS in 1978.  Indeed the\n    balloon was pushed across the planet at speeds up to 250 kilometers\n    (150 miles) per hour.  Strong vertical winds bobbed the craft up and\n    down two to three hundred meters (660 to 990 feet) through most of the\n    journey.  The layer's air temperature averaged forty degrees Celsius\n    (104 degrees Fahrenheit) and pressure was a mere 0.5 Earth atmosphere.\n    The nephelometer could find no clear regions in the surrounding clouds. \n\n        Early in the first balloon's flight, the VEGA 1 lander was already\n    headed towards the Venerean surface.  Both landers were equipped with\n    a soil drill and analyzer similar to the ones carried on VENERA 13 \n    and 14 in 1982.  However, VEGA 1 would become unable to report the\n    composition of the ground at its landing site in Rusalka Planitia, the\n    Mermaid Plain north of Aphrodite Terra.  While still ten to fifteen\n    minutes away from landing, a timer malfunction caused the drill to \n    accidentally begin its programmed activity sixteen kilometers (9.6 \n    miles) above the surface. \n\n        There was neither any way to shut off the instrument before\n    touchdown nor reactivate it after landing.  This was unfortunate not\n    only for the general loss of data but also for the fact that most of\n    Venus was covered with such smooth low-level lava plains and had never \n    before been directly examined.  Nevertheless, the surface temperature \n    and pressure was calculated at 468 degrees Celsius (874.4 degrees \n    Fahrenheit) and 95 Earth atmospheres respectively during the lander's \n    56 minutes of ground transmissions.  A large amount of background \n    infrared radiation was also recorded at the site.\n\n        As had been done when the drills and cameras on VENERA 11 and \n    12 had failed in December of 1978, the Soviets focused on the data\n    returned during the lander's plunge through the atmosphere.  The\n    French-Soviet Malachite mass spectrometer detected sulfur, chlorine, \n    and possibly phosphorus.  It is the sulfur - possibly from active \n    volcanoes - which gives the Venerean clouds their yellowish color.\n    The Sigma 3 gas chromatograph found that every cubic meter of air\n    between an altitude of 48 and 63 kilometers (28.8 and 37.8 miles)\n    contained one milligram (0.015 grain) of sulfuric acid.\n\n        The VEGA 1 data on the overall structure of the cloud decks \n    appeared to be at odds with the information from PIONEER VENUS.\n    The case was made even stronger by the fact that VEGA 2's results\n    nearly matched its twin.  The VEGAs found only two main cloud layers \n    instead of the three reported by the U.S. probes.  The layers were \n    three to five kilometers (1.8 to 3 miles) thick at altitudes of 50 \n    and 58 kilometers (30 and 34.8 miles).  The clouds persisted like a\n    thin fog until clearing at an altitude of 35 kilometers (21 miles), \n    much lower than the PV readings.  One possibility for the discrepan-\n    cies may have been radical structural changes in the Venerean air \n    over the last seven years.\n\n        When the lander and balloon finally went silent, the last \n    functioning part of the VEGA 1 mission, the flyby bus, sailed on\n    for a 708 million-kilometer (424.8 million-mile) journey around\n    the Sun to become the first probe to meet comet Halley.  On March\n    6, 1986, the bus made a 8,890-kilometer (5,334-mile) pass at the \n    dark and icy visitor before traveling on in interplanetary space.\n    The Soviets had accomplished their first mission to two celestial\n    bodies with one space vessel.\n\n        On June 13, VEGA 2 released its lander\/balloon payload for\n    a two-day fall towards Venus.  Like its duplicate, the VEGA 2\n    balloon radioed information back to the twenty antennae tracking\n    it on Earth for 46.5 hours before battery failure on the morning\n    side of the planet.  During its 11,100-kilometer (6,660-mile)\n    flight over Venus, the second balloon entered in a rather still\n    environment which became less so twenty hours into the mission.\n    After 33 hours mission time the air became even more turbulent \n    for a further eight hours.  When the balloon passed over a five-\n    kilometer (three-mile) mountain on the \"continent\" of Aphrodite \n    Terra, a powerful downdraft pulled the craft 2.5 kilometers (1.5 \n    miles) towards the surface.\n\n        Temperature sensors on the VEGA 2 balloon reported that the air \n    layer it was moving through was consistently 6.5 degrees Celsius \n    (43.7 degrees Fahrenheit) cooler than the area explored by the VEGA 1\n    balloon.  This was corroborated by the VEGA 2 lander as it passed \n    through the balloon's level.  No positive indications of lightning\n    were made by either balloon, and the second aerostat's nephelometer \n    failed to function.\n\n        The VEGA 2 lander touched down on the northern edge of Aphrodite\n    Terra's western arm on the fifteenth of June, 1,500 kilometers (900\n    miles) southeast of VEGA 1.  The lander's resting place was smoother\n    than thought, indicating either a very ancient and worn surface or a\n    relatively young one covered in fresh lava.  The soil drill was in\n    working order and reported a rock type known as anorthosite-troctolite, \n    rare on Earth but present in Luna's highlands.  This rock is rich in \n    aluminum and silicon but lacking in iron and magnesium.  A high degree \n    of sulfur was also present in the soil.  The air around VEGA 2 measured \n    463 degrees Celsius (865.4 degrees Fahrenheit) and 91 Earth atmospheres,\n    essentially a typical day (or night) on Venus.\n\n        Far above the VEGA 2 lander, its carrier bus sped past Venus at\n    a distance of 24,500 kilometers (14,700 miles) and followed its twin \n    to comet Halley, making a closer flyby on March 9, 1986 at just 8,030 \n    kilometers (4,818 miles).  Both probes helped to reveal that the comet \n    is a very dark and irregular-shaped mass about fourteen kilometers \n    (8.4 miles) across, rotating once every 53 hours, give or take three \n    hours.\n\n        Since both VEGA craft were still functioning after their Halley\n    encounters, Soviet scientists considered an option to send the \n    probes to other celestial objects.  One prime target was the near-\n    Earth planetoid 2101 Adonis, which VEGA 2 could pass at a distance \n    of six million kilometers (3.6 million miles).  Sadly, the Soviets \n    had to back out on the opportunity to become the first nation to fly \n    a spacecraft past a planetoid when it was discovered that there was \n    not enough maneuvering fuel in the probe to reach Adonis as planned.  \n    VEGA 1 and 2 were quietly shut down in early 1987.\n\n        Future Plans Diverted\n\n        The impressive VEGA mission had given some scientists numerous \n    ideas and hope for even more ambitious expeditions to the second \n    world from the Sun.  One example was the VESTA mission, planned for\n    the early 1990s.\n\n        This Soviet-French collaboration called for the launch of multiple \n    probes on a single PROTON rocket in either 1991 or 1992.  The craft \n    would first swing by Venus and drop off several landers and balloon \n    probes.  The aerostats would be designed to survive in the planet's \n    corrosive atmosphere for up to one month, a large improvement over \n    the VEGA balloons' two days.  The mission would then head out to \n    investigate several planetoids and comets, including a possible \n    landing on Vesta (thus the mission name), the most reflective Main \n    Belt planetoid as seen from Earth.\n\n        Unfortunately for Venus exploration, plans began to change in\n    the Soviet Union.  In 1986 the Soviets decided to reroute the VESTA\n    mission to the red planet Mars instead of Venus, keeping the comet\n    and planetoid aspects intact.  By this time in the Soviet space \n    program interest was focusing on Mars.  Already under construction \n    was an entirely new probe design called PHOBOS.  Two members of this \n    class were planned to leave Earth in 1988 and orbit Mars the next \n    year.  PHOBOS 1 and 2 would then place the first instruments on\n    Mars' largest moon, Phobos. \n\n        All this was a prelude to even more advanced Mars expeditions,\n    including balloon probes, rovers, soil sample return craft, and \n    eventually human explorers in the early Twenty-First Century.\n    The environment of Venus was just too hostile for any serious\n    consideration of human colonization in the near future.\n\n        But things began to look bleak for Soviet Venus and Mars\n    exploration.  Both PHOBOS probes failed to complete their missions,\n    one losing contact on the way to the Red Planet in 1988 and the other\n    going silent in Mars orbit just one week before the planned moon\n    landing in March of 1989. \n\n        In 1989 a plan was devised for a Venus orbiter to drop eight to\n    ten penetrators around the planet in 1998.  Several years later the\n    mission launch date was moved to the year 2005 and has now been put \n    on indefinite hold.  No other official Soviet missions to Venus have\n    since been put forth, a sad commentary after twenty-five years of\n    continuous robotic exploration of the planet. \n\n        During the late 1980s a drastic political and economic change\n    was taking over the Soviet Union.  President Mikhail Gorbachev began \n    to \"open up\" his nation to the benefits of increased cooperation with \n    the rest of the nations, particularly those in the West.  While the \n    culture became less oppressive than in the past, the economy was taking \n    a very rough ride as it also underwent the effects of a \"free market\".\n\n        These effects hit everywhere, including the space program.\n    Missions at all levels were cut back.  The Soviets began making\n    almost desperate attempts to cooperate with other space-faring\n    nations either to keep their remaining programs alive or just to \n    make money.  \n\n        In early 1992 it was reported that the Soviets were offering for \n    sale several fully-equipped VENERAs they had in storage for the price \n    of 1.6 million dollars each, an incredibly low price for any planetary \n    probe.  No nation took them up on the bargain.  Meanwhile the United \n    States was gearing up for new Venus missions of their own.\n\n        MAGELLAN and GALILEO \n\n        The U.S. reactivated their long-dormant planetary exploration\n    with the launch of the Space Shuttle ATLANTIS on May 4, 1989.\n    Aboard the Shuttle was the MAGELLAN spacecraft, a combination of\n    spare parts from other U.S. probes designed to make the most \n    detailed and complete radar-mapping of Venus in history.  When\n    MAGELLAN reached the second world in August of 1990, it would be\n    able to map almost the entire planet down to a resolution of 108\n    meters (360 feet), surpassing the abilities of VENERA 15 and 16.\n\n        In the interim another American probe was launched from a Space \n    Shuttle which would make a quick flyby of Venus on its way to orbit \n    the giant planet Jupiter in 1995.  On October 18, 1989, the Shuttle \n    ATLANTIS released its second unmanned planetary probe into space, \n    named GALILEO after the famous Italian astronomer who discovered the \n    probe's primary target's major moons in 1610.\n\n        In the absence of a powerful enough booster to send GALILEO on\n    a direct flight to the Jovian planet, the probe was sent around\n    Venus and Earth several times to build up enough speed to reach\n    Jupiter.  As a result, Venus became GALILEO's first planetary\n    goal in February of 1990.  The probe radioed back images of the\n    planet's swirling clouds and further indications of lightning in\n    that violent atmosphere.\n\n        On the Drawing Boards\n\n        With the incredible success of MAGELLAN in the last few years,\n    new plans have been laid out for further journeys to Venus.  Scien-\n    tists in the U.S. have talked to space scientists in the former Soviet \n    Union - now the Commonwealth of Independent States since January 1, \n    1992 - of a cooperative effort to launch new VENERA lander missions \n    within in the next decade.  Japan, India, and the ESA have also\n    considered their own Venus missions in the next few decades.\n\n        In February of 1993 NASA came up with several new Venus projects \n    as part of their Discovery Program for launching inexpensive probes\n    throughout the solar system.  For Venus two missions were selected\n    for further study:  A Venus Multiprobe Mission involving the landing\n    of fourteen small probes over one hemisphere to measure winds, air\n    temperature, and pressure; and the Venus Composition Probe, designed\n    to study Venus' atmosphere while descending through the thick air\n    with the aid of a parachute, much as the Soviets had done since 1967.\n    Final project decisions will be made in 1994.\n\n        Humans on Venus      \n\n        Will a human ever be able to stand on the surface of Venus?\n    At present the lead-melting temperatures and crushing air pressure\n    would be threatening to any Earth life not protected in something\n    even tougher than a VENERA lander.  Plans have been looked into\n    changing the environment of Venus itself into something more like\n    Earth's.  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Larry also teaches a course on\n    Basic Astronomy at the Concord-Carlisle Adult and Community \n    Education Program in Massachusetts.\n\n        Larry is the author of the following EJASA articles:\n\n        \"The One Dream Man: Robert H. Goddard, Rocket Pioneer\" - August 1989\n        \"Stopping Space and Light Pollution\" - September 1989              \n        \"The Rocky Soviet Road to Mars\" - October 1989\n        \"Astronomy and the Family\" - May 1991  \n        \"The Soviets and Venus, Part 1\" - February 1993\n        \"The Soviets and Venus, Part 2\" - March 1993\n\n\n      THE ELECTRONIC JOURNAL OF THE ASTRONOMICAL SOCIETY OF THE ATLANTIC\n\n                          April 1993 - Vol. 4, No. 9","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nPlease take this thread out of \"tx.politics.talk.politics.guns\" which does\nnot exist.  How about \"tx.politics,talk.politics.guns\" instead, eh?\n-- \nEd McGuire                   1603 LBJ Freeway, Suite 780\nSystems Administrator\/       Dallas, Texas 75234\n Member of Technical Staff   214\/620-2100, FAX 214\/484-8110\nIntellection, Inc.           <ed@intellection.com>","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nThe top 11 teams of this tournament will play in the Olympics next year.\nThe last team of this tournament, top two of pool B (Great Britain and \nPoland) and the winner of pool C (Latvia) will play for the last Olympic \nspot next fall.\n  However, if next year's hosts Norway were to finish 12th (which would be \nno surprise), then it's the 11th team of pool A that will have to play in \nthe qualification tournament.  ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nSorry 'bout that - Mine is a '91 model non-turbo 2.0. (with ABS and revised\nsuspension (whatever revised means)). I'm in Australia, so we always seem to \nget the versions without extras which the Europeans and Americans get as \nstandard.\n\nMy query is, - why does the noise get noticeably LOUDER about 2-3 months after\nan oil change. I just find it a bit wierd that this happens. Is it the oil I'm\nusing (Mobil 1) or is it the engine (the 3S-GE version\/model) ie. gets\nnoiser the older the oil is (I'm only guessing). \n\nIts not annoyingly distressing or anything, but just slightly puzzling.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\nI'm looking for a program which is able to display 24 bits\nimages. We are using a Sun Sparc equipped with Parallax\ngraphics board running X11.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Can any body tell me where the most significant bit of the total horizontal\nwidth hides out on the Tseng Labs ET4000 with a 15\/16\/24 bit dac?\nI am trying to use the 640x480x16M mode under unix (so i cant just call int 10h)I have a program which dumps the contents of the card registers under dos, but I\nam not sure I trust it for the extended registers of the et4000.\nAnyway, the problem is that in this mode, the Horizontal Total Register\n(3d4h index0) is apparently set to 0x27, but 3d4h index 1 (the displayed clocks)\nis set to 0xEF, so 0x27 is nonsense. A resonable value would be 0x0127 - so is\nthere a high bit, and if so, where is it?\nAlso, how does one set the video dot clock to the appropriate frequency ( and\nwhat would be an appropriate frequency?). The documentation isn't really very\nclear (tseng.txt from  vgadoc2.zip from some ftp site) about this.\nMy card is a MegaVga\/1024 1Mb card. Seems to have a Tseng Labs Bios (ver 8.05 I\nthink.) Works nicely under dos, and very well under unix (linux) in all the\nnon-hicolor modes. Great for running X-windows in up to 1152x900x256ni - if your\nmonitor will take it (only just in my case).\n\nPlease email the answer, as I can't read news very often.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nGood point. Not only baseball but local NBA basketball games took\nprecedence over any SCA's NHL playoff coverage.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nI'm not sure if this is a big issue, but it seems to me like it\nmight be -- up till now, all >1g forces applied to the mirror and\nits mounting (and nearly all =1g forces) have been applied along the\ntelescope's optical axis, and against the mirror's base.  Reentry\nwould apply forces along roughly the same axis, but tending to pull\nthe mirror away from the mount, and the landing would apply on-edge\nforces to both the mirror and mount.  It could be that one or both\nof these would not survive.\n\ngreg\n-- ","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
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{"text":"-| In article <1993Apr28.200843.83413@embl-heidelberg.de>, tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev) writes...\n-| > \n-| > \n-| >ANNOUNCEMENT:\tThe \"HyperKnowledge\" PROJECT for NeXTSTEP\n-| \n-| I know this is kinda off the subject of sci.space, but not really, I want to\n-| answer this for their, as well as everyone else's information.  What these\n-| people are proposing, by and large already exists and can be purchased today.\n-| \n-| It is called labview by National Instruments. IT is a wonderful object\n-| IT is a wonderful object oriented graphical programming language.\n-| [some lines deleted]\n\nI am afraid you are mis-directed. NeXTSTEP is an operating system as opposed to \na package. I have read a little about it but since Steve Jobs does not seem to \nhave the marketing capabilities of Bill Gates my info. is limited. Probably why\nthe far inferior Windows NT is going to be more widely distributed (but that\nis another flame-ridden story). Some of the innovative features of NeXTSTEP are\nbinary compatibility across platforms (eg you can just copy your program from\na Sparc to a PC and it would run, as opposed to buying the version of the package\nported to a PC), graphical object-oriented design (its all WSIWIG postscript), \nsupports parallel hetrogeneous processing, and best of all it is based around \nthe Mach micro-kernel so you can make it look like Unix with X, or DOS, or NT or \neven VMS if you feel the need. No package out there comes even close. I hope \npeople will subscribe to the HyperKnowledge project and NeXTSTEP finally\ntakes off in my lifetime :-)","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nAdvanced Kirlian Photography (try this at home, too)\n\n1.  Get a camera\n2.  Have your subject face you with his\/her back to the sun.\n3.  Take photo\n4.  Observe the glow behind their silhouetted image on the photo\n5.  Invent crackpot theory to explain the effect\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n[R2D2] Benjamin, my Zionist friend:\n[R2D2]     It is amazing that there are still pigs like you left on this planet.\n[R2D2] Occupied Palestine has become a prison for its own inhabitants, thanks \n[R2D2] to you, the Zionist network around the world, and those who call \n[R2D2] themselves \"the chosen people of God\".\n[R2D2]     If there is a God, and for as long as we have a breath left, we will\n[R2D2] fight for our freedom.  Benjamin, don't rest too easily...\n\nThanks for writing your name and identifying yourself, you coward.\nThat is right hide behind your blind rhetoric, but beware JLE the \nMossad agent wil come and get you.\n\nTsiel","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"If you think that windows is useable, you must not use it much.  Windows \nversion of \"crash protection\" is wearing a helmet while computing.  The arir\n(air) bag is an expensive add-on.\nBrett \n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nCountersteering is a method for *leaning* the bike.  Another method is\nleaning.  Once leaned, the bike turns all by itself.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nInsomnia is a known, but relatively infrequent, side-effect of\ndiphenhydramine.  \n\nFor most people, this does not occur.  On the other hand, most people\ncan build up a tolerance to an antihistamine with extended use.\n(Allergy sufferers are often switched from one antihistamine to\nanother to avoid this.)\n\n\n--\nSteven Litvintchouk\nMITRE Corporation\n202 Burlington Road\nBedford, MA  01730-1420","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"hello all- i have a problem with my micro solutions backpack- sometimes \nit works, sometimes it doesnt.  i will either start a backup, or \nstart a tape format, and at about 20 percent i get an error either saying\nthe tape is bad or the backup\/format has aborted for an unknown reason.\nif i turn everything off and wait a half hour it works fine.  is it\nbecause the tape backup is too warm?  has anyone had similar experiences?\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nKoresh & some of his followers were tried and found *innocent* of\nall charges following that shootout.  Were you unaware of this or\ndid you purposly leave out this fact?\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Believe it or not, we DO have phone books, but the current information does\nnot include an area code for Edmonton Alberta.\n\nI would not be so hostile towards others for asking simple questions...\n\n\"I would rather appear stupid than open my moutha nd remove all doubt.\"\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t-Mark Twain\n\n-- \n\t\"If you assult someone you get 5 years--In hockey, 5 minutes.\n\t\t\tIs this a great sport or what?!\"","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Well, just got all the parts replaced that needed replced\n(sprokets+chain) and notice that engine still taps like it did before.\nAll our local 'experts' say it's the tappits that need some adjusting so\nI am soon to attempt that.  I would like any advice anyone had.  I do\nnot have a shop manual but have read about the procedure in Chiltons and\nin a few other places.  Is there anything I need to be particularaly\ncarful of?  Any problems anyone else has encountered?\n\nI ride a 1981 Yamaha Exciter 250cc (stop laughing, it's tiny, but it's\nshiny)\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I purchased a used 1988 Nissan 300ZX (non-turbo) last year.  I had a \nquestion on gear\/rpm ratios.  Right now in 5th @65mph I'm at \n2600-2700 rpms.  @70mph I'm at about 2900rpms.  Is this about the\nnorm?  I'm an auto neophyte so I'm just wondering if these are\nthe proper ranges?  Somehow the rpm figures seem high.  A friend of mine\njust told me he can hit 60mph in 3rd on his 88 Chevy Beretta (2.8l V6.)\nAlso, anyone know the top speed attainable (@redline???) for this model Z?\n(Not that I would try it but it would be an interesting factoid. :)\n \n\t\t\t\tThanx!\n\t\t\t\t\tDerek\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"BOSTON (0) AT SEATTLE (7)\n \n BOSTON          AB  R  H BI  SEATTLE         AB  R  H BI\n RILES 2B         3  0  0  0  FELDER LF        4  0  1  1\n QUINTANA RF      2  0  0  0  COTTO DH         3  0  0  0\n GREENWELL LF     3  0  0  0  SASSER PH        1  0  0  0\n DAWSON DH        3  0  0  0  GRIFFEY JR CF    4  0  0  0\n M VAUGHN 1B      3  0  0  0  BUHNER RF        3  1  0  0\n CALDERON CF      3  0  0  0  BOONE 2B         4  2  3  2\n COOPER 3B        3  0  0  0  T MARTINEZ 1B    3  1  1  0\n JOHN VALENTIN SS 3  0  0  0  BLOWERS 3B       4  1  2  1\n PENA C           3  0  0  0  VALLE C          4  1  2  2\n                              VIZQUEL SS       4  1  2  0\n TOTALS          26  0  0  0  TOTALS          34  7 11  6","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nAbsolute nonsense.  The decision that was made was Pocklington's.  He chose \n20 mill over Gretzky.  If Gretzky wasn't upset about not being able to win\na cup in LA then I submit that he wasn't worth the 20 mill.\n\n\nHow do you know what he thinks (or thought)?  The only \"thought\" that I\ncan see that you have revealed is your own.  You don't like Gretzky.\nBig deal.\n\n\nThe real purpose of diving is not merely an attempt to draw a penalty.  What\nthe player is trying to do is make the checkers keep their distance so the\nref won't be fooled.  I can't imagine why anyone would expect someone like\nLemieux to change his game.  Why don't you pick on 1 dimensional over-rated\ntype like Hull and Salami. \n\n\n-- ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"agencies  \nyour  \ndictionary  \n\nI don't recall saying Baptists do any of that.  Though I suppose some do.  And  \nnone of them are listed in the dictionary as characteristics of a cult.  My  \nmother stockpiled Campbells soup when it was on sale.  \n\n\nYou are an intolerent, foul-mouthed human.  You sound like you are ready to  \njoin the KKK or neo-nazis, with a narrow mind like yours.\n\n\nFar from it, I defend the rights of anyone to be different under our  \nconstitution, which was formed in part to protect religious cults which had  \nbeen persecuted in England before migrating here to be free.  You are the one  \nendangering our constitution.\n\n\nJim\n--\njmd@handheld.com","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nI had one and on three different motherboards it didn't work with NT and\nin some cases DOS. I sent mine back, but it is my understanding that\non some systems such as Micronics motherboards it is necessary to\nshut off the internal cache on the 486 to have it work.\n\nI've yet to hear from someone running a 34F on any motherboard with\nNT without shutting off the cache.\n\nIf you get one my advise it to be very sure you can return it first.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nThis is the case in Britain, according to the head of the computer crime\nunit here when I interviewed him a couple of months ago.\n\nwg","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nAnd most definitely read it in conjunction with Heinlein's _Starship\nTrooper_.  The two books are radically different viewpoints of the\nsame basic premises.  I've even heard tell of English classes built\naround this.\n\n-- \n\"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live\n in the real world.\"   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Can anybody send me Pinouts of Real Time Clock IC of OKI Semiconductors,\n58321. I wish to know if any RTC IC of OKI has an inbuilt crystal rather\nthan an external 32.768KHz crystal.\nThanks in advance.\nNilesh Parikh\nnilesh@shakti.ncst.ernet.in\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nI have the same problem with my '90 probe.  The water is definitely not comming\nup from the rubber stoppered hole beneath the spare.  I have to remove the\nrubber stopper to drain the water.  Seems like a common problem with probe.\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nDidn't expect to find you in the Devil's role, Stephen, but these are\nthe times that try men's souls.\nNine months, as I understand it.  No doubt this accounts for a \nsignificant amount of the time as government efficiency in spending\nour tax dollars would certainly seek its absolute minimum in such\nan event.  But my gut instinct says there is more at hand.  It took\nsome careful preplanning to demonize D.K. to such an extent.  The\nattack meshes well with more restrictive gun control legislation\nthat seems to be the agenda of the day.  It also fits a pattern of\nincreased government interference in personal religious beliefs.\n[Randy Weaver is now on trial].\n\nNo quarrel here.  The BIG BANG theory is always apt at appropriation\ntime.  They just don't have to possess a single motive.\n \n\nI certainly think publication of the warrant undermines the government's\ncase since it makes no claims of illegal action.  Therefore the federal\njudge had reason to seal it.  But I am reminded of Senator Frank Church's\nremark that \"secrecy is the trademark of a totalitarian government.\"\nThere is rarely sufficient motive to seal a warrant in a nation of\nfree people.\n\nHow can I argue with irrefutable logic?  I have long suspected that\nthe government has become a mindless machine and now you go and\nconfirm my worst fears!  Has it become a BEAST that is programmed\nsimply to say \"Kiss my toe and you get your piece of the pie?\"\nI suspect bugs in the program arise when agents or those who love\nthis critter have independent thoughts.\n \n\nAnd watching Terminator II.\n\nYes, 186 seeds for a new Republic.  And 86 for...?\n    Rev. 11:10...And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice\n\t\tover them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one\n\t\tto another; because these two prophets tormented them\n\t\tthat dwelt on the earth.\n\nStephen, have you sensed that some have been rejoicing lately....?\n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":":Being a chronic HBsAg carrier does not necessarily mean the patient has chronic\n:persistent anything. Persons who are chronic carriers may have no clinical,\n:biochemical, or histologic evidence of liver disease, or they may have chronic\n:persistent hepatitis, chronic active hepatitis, cirrhosis, or hepatocellular\n:carcinoma.\n:\n:Most cases of chronic persistent hepatitis (CPH) are probably the result of\n:a viral infection, although in a good number of cases the cause cannot be\n:determined. The diagnosis of CPH is made on the basis of liver biopsy. It\n:consists of findings of portal inflammation, an intact periportal limiting\n:plate, and on occasion isolated foci of intralobular necrosis. But in contrast\n:to chronic active hepatitis (CAH) there is no periportal inflammation, \n:bridging necrosis, or fibrosis. \n:\n:CPH has, indeed, an excellent prognosis. If I had to choose between CAH and\n:CPH there is no question I would also choose CPH. However, as David pointed\n:out, the distinction between the two is not as neat as some of us would have\n:it. The histology can sometimes be pretty equivocal, with biopsies showing\n:areas compatible with both CPH and CAH. Maybe it is a sampling problem. Maybe\n:it is a continuum. I don't know.\n\nDarn.  Just when I think I understand something someone who knows the\npathology has to burst my bubble :-(  We'd better not start talking about\nglomerular diseases, then I'll really get depressed.\n\nSeriously though, I wonder how someone with CPH would end up getting a\nbiopsy in the first place?  My understanding (and feel free to correct me)\nis that the enzymes are at worst mildly elevated, with overall normal\nhepatic function.  I would think that the only clue might be a history of\nprior HepB infection and a positive HepB-sAg.  Or is it indeed on a\ncontinuum with CAH, and the distinction merely one of pathology and\nprognosis, but otherwise identical clinical features?\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"  [stuff deleted]\n\nYou should be clear in your mind what your goal is. Two possible goals\nare (1) maximizing you income from your program, and (2) minimizing\nthe number of illegal copies which get created. Accomplishing (2)\ndoesn't usually accomplish (1).\n\nMost vendors have concluded that copy protection reduces the number of\nnormal legitimate sales by far more than it increase sales by virtue\nof changing 'copiers' to 'purchasers', and hence merely reduces\nrevenue.  Most legitimate buyers nowadays (including me) have had bad\nexperiences with copy protected products (e.g., hard to make a\nlegitimate backup, incompatabilties when new system on system upgrade,\netc.), and they won't touch them with a ten foot pole.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nAh-ha!  I'm not alone at last!  Which Sony do you have??  I have a\n27\"SXR (pre-XBR series, circa 1987).  That damn thing used to\nmake noise like a mad-man.  I had\/have 2 separate problems...one being the\nflyback, the other was the assembly where the windings of the yoke\ncame together. \n\nFirst:  I found by poking around the windings on that assembly,\nthe thing would make noise.  I guess that there was enough of a potential\nin that assembly to leak, so I sprayed it with a dielectric insulation\nspray--I think it was urethane or acyrilic.  That fixed it.\n\nSecond:  Flyback...for the life of me, I can't isolate this one.  If I\nleave the cover off, the TV will be quiet.  If I put the cover back on,\nand let it heat up, it'll start to whine--kinda hard to solve with the\ncover on!! :-(\n\nA friend of mine who used to fix TV's says there might be a pin-hole\nleak somewhere on the flyback.  Usually it's surrounded by a bunch of\nblack dust\/dirt.\n\nI hope this is a start...if you find something out, let me know!","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nAnybody has any information about the number of the people have been killed\nby Israel  during these 44 HAPPY YEAR?","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"<\n<   Some countries have laws about importing crypto gear--I believe the U.S.\n<   does. Without a license the above scheme won't work (at least not legally)\n<   in such countries, including at least France and the U.S.\n<\n<   David\n<\n<BZZT!\n<\n<Wrong.  The US does NOT have crypto import laws.\n\nI'd not be so sure about that:\n\nAre there any MUNITIONS import laws, and could those be used against\nimportation of crypto hardware\/software as well as firearms?\n\nImporting so-called 'assault weapons' for use by commoners come to mind....\n\nNOTE - talk.politics.guns added to Newsgroups for possible feedback...\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nDennis.\n\n\tWE agree a lot ,  it's just we don't both post when we agree\non something.  And when we disagree, it tends to be a lot more\nnoticeable.;-)","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nA typical Nazi\/racist Armenian of 'ASALA\/SDPA\/ARF'. Can it be that\ncriminal\/Nazi Armenians of ASALA\/SDPA\/ARF hate Muslims for ideological \nreasons regardless of what they do? Between 1914 and 1920, your criminal\nArmenian grandparents committed unheard-of crimes, resorted to all \nconceivable methods of despotism, organized massacres, poured petrol \nover babies and burned them, raped women and girls in front of their \nparents who were bound hand and foot, took girls from their mothers \nand fathers and appropriated personal property and real estate. And \ntoday, they put Azeris in the most unbearable conditions any other \nnation had ever known in history.\n                               \n\nSource: The Times, 2 March 1992\n\nCORPSES LITTER HILLS IN KARABAKH\n\nANATOL LIEVEN COMES UNDER FIRE WHILE FLYING WITH AZERBAIJANI FORCES \nTO INVESTIGATE THE MASS KILLINGS OF REFUGEES BY ARMENIAN TROOPS...\n\nAs we swooped low over the snow-covered hills of Nagorno-Karabagh we saw \nthe scattered corpses. Apparently, the refugees had been shot down as \nthey ran. An Azerbaijani film of the places we flew over, shown to \njournalists afterwards, showed DOZENS OF CORPSES lying in various parts \nof the hills.\n\nThe Azerbaijanis claim that AS MANY AS 1000 have died in a MASS KILLING \nof AZERBAIJANIS fleeing from the town of Khodjaly, seized by Armenians \nlast week. A further 4,000 are believed to be wounded, frozen to death \nor missing... \n\nSeven of us squatted in the cabin of an Azerbaijani M24 attack helicopter \nas we flew to investigate the claims of the mass killings. Suddenly there \nwas a thump against the underside of the aircraft, a red flash of tracer \nripped past the starboard wing, and the helicopter rocked sharply. We \nswung round, and there was a deafening burst of fire from the cannon \nunder our wing as the helicopter crew returned fire.\n\nWe had been fired on from an Armenian anti-aircraft post. We swung round \nagain, tipped to starboard and appeared to dive straight down into a \nvalley. The brown earth swooped around our heads, the helicopter swung \nround again and followed the contours of the ground. Our cannon fired \nrepeated blasts.\n\nLater it emerged that a civilian helicopter that we had been escorting \nhad landed successfully at Nakhichevanik in the east of the disputed \nenclave of Nagorno-Karabakh, to pick up some of the dead. We had, in \nfact, been attacked both by ground fire and by an Armenian helicopter. \nI had seen the Armenian helicopter intermittently through the window, \nits cannons firing, but had thought - mistakenly - that it was on \n\"our side\". Our group of Western journalists had embarked on a \nsearch-and-rescue flight that had become a combat mission.\n\nOur flight consisted of the civilian passenger helicopter and two \nM24 Soviet attack helicopters in the Azerbaijani service, nicknamed \nflying crocodiles for their armour. Our party was in the second \ncrocodile. The civilian helicopter's job was to land in the mountains \nand pick up bodies at sites of the mass killings. The attack helicopters \nwere there to give covering fire if necessary.\n\nThe operation showed a striking sign of the disintegration of the Soviet \narmed forces because our pilot was a Russian officer. An Azerbaijani \nofficial told us that there were now five former Soviet military \nhelicopters -and their pilots- fighting for Azerbaijan. \"They have \nsigned contracts to fly for us,\" he said. The helicopter we engaged \nin combat was most probably flown by a brother-officer of our Russian \npilot, but fighting for the Armenians.\n\nWe had taken off just before 5pm on Saturday from Agdam airfield, an \nheated for the Armenian-controlled mountains of Karabakh, a sheer \nwhite wall in the distance. The civilian helicopter picked up four \ncorpses, and it was during this and a previous mission that an \nAzerbaijani cameraman filmed the several the several dozen bodies \non the hillsides. We then took off again in a hurry and speed back \ntowards Azerbaijani lines. Azerbaijani gunners on the last hill before \nthe plain - and safety - gazed up at us as we passed.\n\nBack at the airfield in Agdam, we took a look the bodies the \ncivilian helicopter had picked up. Two old men a small girl were \ncovered with blood, their limbs contorted by the cold and rigor \nmortis. They had been shot.\n\nWhat did our Russian pilot think of the tragedy, our close shave, \nand the war in Nagorno-Karabakh? He gave us CHEERFUL GRIN, POLITELY \nDECLINED TO ANSWER QUES TIONS, AND MARCHED OFF TO HIS DINNER.\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I just put a 33MHz 040 CPU into my Centris 610.  Now I have a math coprocessor,\nbut is it possible to speed up the Centris to run at either 25MHz or 33MHz??\n\nI didn't see any oscillators on the motherboard like the ones on the IIsi's\nmotherboard!  Where is the oscillator for the Centris?\n\nAny ideas?\n\nThanks\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
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{"text":"\n\nTest\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I've built xcoral on my system (SunOS 4.1.3, X11R5, Motif 1.2, OW 3.0)\nand it builds fine, but when I run it, any child windows that xcoral\nopens,\n1) locks the mouse into the window area\n2) doesn't accept any input from the mouse.\n\nNeedless to say, this is a pain in the ass, as I have to go find an\nempty terminal to login and kill xcoral.\n\nIs this a problem with OpenWindows or Motif?  Is there a patch?\n---\n#######################################################################\n# Bob Campbell                 #  \"Crayons can take you where no      #\n# System Manager               #   Starship can go.\"                  #\n# HAO, NCAR                    #                    -Guinan           #\n# rsc@hao.ucar.edu             #                     STTNG            # \n#######################################################################\nDISCLAIMER: My views are in no way connected to my employer.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"The following comics are for auction.  The highest bid takes them!  New\nstuff added!  (Oooooh!  The Mr. T. premium comic!)\n\nTITLE                                                   Minimum\/Current \n--------------------------------------------------------------\nAlpha Flight 51 (Jim Lee's first work at Marvel)\t$ 5.00\n\nAliens 1 (1st app Aliens in comics, 1st prnt, May 1988)\t$20.00\/KrisM.\/THREE\n\nAmazing Spider-Man 136 (Intro new Green Goblin)         $20.00\n\nAmazing Spider-Man 238 (1st appearance Hobgoblin)\t$50.00\n\nArcher and Armstrong 1 (Frank Miller\/Smith\/Layton)\t$ 7.50\n\nAvengers 263 (1st appearance X-factor)                  $ 3.50\n\nBloodshot 1 (Chromium cover, BWSmith Cover\/Poster)\t$ 5.00\/SamE\/ONCE\n\nDaredevil 158 (Frank Miller art begins)                 $35.00\n\nDark Horse Presents 1 (1st app Concrete, 1st printing)\t$ 7.50 \n\nDetective 657 (Azrael appears, Intro Cypher)\t\t$ 5.00\n\nHarbinger 10 (1st appearance H.A.R.D. Corps)\t\t$ 7.00\/B.Matthey\/SOLD\n\nH.A.R.D. Corps 1 \t\t\t\t\t$ 5.00\n\nIncredible Hulk 324 (1st app Grey Hulk since #1 1962)\t$ 7.00\n\nIncredible Hulk 330 (1st McFarlane issue)\t\t$15.00\n\nIncredible Hulk 331 (Grey Hulk series begins)\t\t$11.00\n\nIncredible Hulk 367 (1st Dale Keown art in Hulk)        $15.00\n\nIncredible Hulk 377 (1st all new hulk, 1st prnt, Keown) $15.00\n\nMarvel Comics Presents 1 (Wolverine, Silver Surfer)     $ 7.50\n\nMaxx Limited Ashcan (4000 copies exist, blue cover)\t$33.50\/BrentB\/THREE\n\nMr T. #1 (Signed Advance copy, 10,000 exist)\t\t$10.00\n\nNew Mutants 86 (McFarlane cover, 1st app Cable - cameo)\t$10.00\n\nNew Mutants 100 (1st app X-Force)                       $ 5.00\n\nNew Mutants Annual 5 (1st Liefeld art on New Mutants)\t$10.00\n\nOmega Men 3 (1st appearance Lobo)                       $ 7.50\n\nOmega Men 10 (1st full Lobo story)                      $ 7.50\n\nPower Man & Iron Fist 78 (3rd appearance Sabretooth)    $20.00\n\nPower Man & Iron Fist 84 (4th appearance Sabretooth)    $15.00\n\nSimpsons Comics and Stories 1 (Polybagged special ed.)\t$ 7.50\n\nSpectacular Spider-Man 147 (1st app New Hobgoblin)      $12.50\n\nStar Trek the Next Generation 1 (Feb 1988, DC mini)     $ 7.50\n\nStar Trek the Next Generation 1 (Oct 1989, DC comics)   $ 7.50\n\nTrianglehead #1 (Special limited edition, autogrphed)\t$ 5.00\n\nWeb of Spider-Man 29 (Hobgoblin, Wolverine appear)      $10.00 \n\nWeb of Spider-Man 30 (Origin Rose, Hobgoblin appears)   $ 7.50\n\nWolverine 10 (Before claws, 1st battle with Sabretooth)\t$15.00\n\nWolverine 41 (Sabretooth claims to be Wolverine's dad)\t$ 5.00\n\nWolverine 42 (Sabretooth proven not to be his dad)\t$ 3.50\n\nWolverine 43 (Sabretooth\/Wolverine saga concludes)\t$ 3.00\n\nWolverine 1 (1982 mini-series, Miller art)\t\t$20.00\n\nWonder Woman 267 (Return of Animal Man)                 $12.50\n\nX-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, X-Force card)     $20.00\n\nX-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Shatterstar card) $10.00\n\nX-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Deadpool card)    $10.00\n\nX-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Sunspot\/Gideon)   $10.00\n\n\nAll comics are in near mint to mint condition, are bagged in shiny \npolypropylene bags, and backed with white acid free boards.  Shipping is\n$1.50 for one book, $3.00 for more than one book, or free if you order \na large enough amount of stuff.  I am willing to haggle.\n\nI have thousands and thousands of other comics, so please let me know what \nyou've been looking for, and maybe I can help.  Some titles I have posted\nhere don't list every issue I have of that title, I tried to save space.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"==== BEGIN REPOST ====\n\nIBM, Apple, Motorola Ready to Unwrap PowerPC 601 Processor\n\n\nThe wraps will come off the PowerPC 601 processor this week, as Motorola\nCorp., IBM, and Apple Computer Inc. detail the results of their yearlong\neffort. This first in a series of PowerPC processors will be a 32-bit\nprocessor with a 64-bit memory interface, much like Intel Corp.'s\nPentium, with the capability of performing as many as three instructions\nper clock cycle, according to sources familiar with the chip. Motorola\nis expected to release the chip in volume by year end in two\nconfigurations, running at 50 and 66 MHz with performance of 40 and 50\nSPECint89 marks, respectively, sources said. Floating-point performance\nfor the 3.6-volt processors will be even better, as their SPECfp89\nperformance will be 60 and 80, respectively. The 601, a scaled-down\nversion of the Power 220 chip developed by IBM for its RS\/6000\nworkstations, will also include a 32K single buffered cache on the chip\nwith protocols to support Motorola's 64-bit multiprocessor 88110 bus\nbuilt in. The chip, which is being designed initially to support the\nMicro Channel Architecture, is bus independent, so vendors could develop\nPowerPC- based systems using a number of different architectures,\nincluding ISA, EISA, or Sun Microsystems Inc.'s S-bus design, one source\nnoted.\n\nAccording to sources familiar with the development effort, Motorola has\nbeen extremely successful in developing the PowerPC as an inexpensive\narchitecture, despite a complex design made up of more than 2.8 million\ntransistors using a 0.6-micron technology. Initial chips are expected to\nbe priced from $300 to $400 -- only slightly higher than Intel Corp.'s\n486 processors -- but could be sold profitably for less than $100, one\nsource said.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"A long time back (months), I think a similar question was asked....\n\nA suggestion, in addition to Ed's list, was to put your windward knee out\naway from the bike.\n\nI tried it, and it seems to help, actually.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
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{"text":"\nI knew when I posted that I was going to get into trouble. Now I suppose I\nhave to give \/5 wheelie demos at the Spring Fling or something.\n\nBut you're right, John, it is a chain drive model. I think it goes around\nthe camshaft and up over the rocker arms or something. Stolen from an early\nSpagthorpe design, according to urban legend.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Look, folks, I don't know what happened in Waco.  I do not claim the BDs are  \nangels, I never did.  Koresh may very well be the devil incarnate.  I just  \ndon't know.  But I do know that I must question any single source of  \ninformation, such as we have here.  And I must question even harder given that  \nit is single source at the insistance of that very government.  What ever else  \nhappened at WACO, that is perhaps the biggest evil done.  And even more so in  \nlight of the discrepencies turning up between the federal officials and the  \nstate officials.\n\nBut what I really don't understand is the hoards of devoted government  \nworshipers who believe the government could not possibly do any wrong.  They  \nare fanatic to the point of making things up, such as Brent's microwave oven  \ndisclaim of the BD's using fire for food heating.  \n\nI am hard pressed to see any real difference between the claimed power Koresh  \nheld over the BDs, and the demonstrated power the government holds over those  \nrapid apologists.\n\n\nJim\n--\njmd@handheld.com","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\nConsidering the above, and some postings about Diamond's bad attitute\ntowars customers, I ordered and ActixGE+ VLB 2M card. It will arive\nthese days.\n\n--\nPenio Penev  x7423 (212)327-7423 (w) Internet: penev@venezia.rockefeller.edu","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n  When the bugs are splatting on the side of my helmet instead\n  of the faceshield.  When semis are on their side in the downwind\n  ditch.  When I can't see the road for all the tumbleweeds rolling\n  past.  When the airborne sand\/gravel is sandblasting my paint job.\n  When all of the above is happening at once in the middle of Wonderful\n  Wyldoming.\n\n  Well, it *WAS* gusting to 87 mph.\n\n  Cheers,\n  VLJ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Serial cables:\n\nThere are only three output signals: TD, DTR, and RTS.\nThere are five inputs signals: RD, DSR, DCD, CTS, and RI.\n\nThere are many differnt null modem requiremts as dictated by the software.\nThe IBM BIOS requires asserts DTR and RTS and then waits for both DSR and\nCTS before sending.  When a BIOS recieve call is made, it asserts DTR and\nwaits for DSR to become true (times out after a while and returns with an\nerror if DSR never becomes true).  It requires CTS to be true for sending\nAND recieving.  Most communications packages bypass this and replace it\nwith their own protocol.  The key is that each comm. package could very\nwell have different requirements.\n\nMy favorite cable works in many cases: short RTS to CTS at each end, but\nalso run RTS through to DCD at the opposite end.  TD runs through to RD\nand DTR runs through to DSR from both DTE's and of course SG goes through\nto SG.\n\nI have never had trouble with this null modem even though I have used it\nwith a comm. package that was expecting RTS to go to CTS instead of DCD.\nThe advantage of this cable is that it also works with the IBM BIOS.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"There has been a long running discussion over changing the Startup\nlogo for Windows for a few weeks here. While all the COPY methods are\ngreat & haven't seen any mention of a program that will do it for\nyou..... \n\nWell... I found one on CICA called winlogo (Can't remember where\nunfortuantely), and it seems to work real well... even comes with a\ncouple example .RLE files. \n\nWhat I'd really like though is a way to create .RLE files myself,\nspecifically the RLE4 format mentioned in the winlogo readme file. Can\nanyone point me in the direction of such a beast with a REAL directory\npath ?? All the ones I've seen mentioned didn't pan out.....","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"My original post:\n\nAha, I think I found the problem and it isn't dirt!  Another guy here was \nusing a different kind of mouse and was using 640x400x16 video driver (the \ndefault VGA for Windows).  He has an S3 LocalBus card like I do and when I \nloaded the S3 video driver in Windows for him, his mouse became jumpy too.  \nSeems like it is the S3 driver!  Is there any newer one than version 1.4 \nthat would solve this problem?  It is really bad.  I have to use the \nkeyboard instead sometimes!  The s3-w31.zip on cica is version 1.4 (which is \nthe same version that came with my card).\n\n\n---\nSean Eckton\nComputer Support Representative\nCollege of Fine Arts and Communications\n\nD-406 HFAC\nBrigham Young University\nProvo, UT  84602\n(801)378-3292","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"1993 World Championships in Germany:\n ====================================\n\n Group A results:\n\n SWEDEN - SWITZERLAND  4-6 (0-3,3-1,1-2)\n\n 1st: SWI 0-1 Manuele Celio 1                                         3:21\n      SWI 0-2 Patrick Howald 1                                       11:37\n      SWI 0-3 Patrick Howald 2   (Sven Leuenberger)                  16:00\n 2nd: SWE 1-3 Peter Andersson 1  (Michael Nylander)                   2:47 (pp)\n      SWI 1-4 Roman Waeger 1     (Martin Rauch,Sven Leuenberger)      8:53 (pp)\n      SWE 2-4 Jonas Bergqvist 3  (Markus Naslund)                     9:08\n      SWE 3-4 Jan Larsson 1      (Patrik Juhlin)                     18:50\n 3rd: SWE 4-4 Mikael Renberg 2   (Thomas Rundqvist,Peter Andersson)   7:49\n      SWI 4-5 Roman Waeger 2                                          9:07\n      SWI 4-6 Felix Hollenstein 1 (Sven Leuenberger,Thomas Vrabec)   11:29\n\n              Shots on goal:   Penalties:   Attendance:   Referee:\n Sweden        5 20 18 - 43    4*2min       6,000         Rob Hearn, USA\n Switzerland  10  6  7 - 23    5*2min\n\n Switzerland beat Sweden in a WC for the first time since 1950, and the Swiss\n now have a small chance of reaching the quarterfinals (if Austria beats\n Italy tonight).\n\n The Swiss took the lead after Hakan Ahlund made an incredibly stupid drop\n pass at his own blue line, and Celio came in alone with Soderstrom and beat\n Tommy to the stick side. The Swedes continued to make mistakes as Howald\n was allowed to skate in between the Swedish D and put the puck past Tommy\n to make it 0-2. 0-3 was a nice one, Howald entered the Swedish zone, slammed\n on the breaks, and his shot went in by Tommy's far post. One of the lousiest\n periods I've seen Sweden play this year.\n Second period saw a new Swedish team, and the Swiss had to ice the puck many\n times. On a pp, Nylander skated in from the boards, Pavoni made the initial\n save, but Peter Andersson scored on the rebound.  Then a power play goal\n from the Swiss, a slap shot from the blue line hit two players on the way\n to the goal and past Soderstrom also. Jonas Bergqvist made it 2-4 after a\n nice pass from Naslund behind the goal. Jan Larsson reduced the lead to 3-4\n just before the end of 2nd period, on a pp skated in unattacked in front of\n the goal, and put the puck through Pavoni's 5-hole. \n Third period, Sweden equalized on a slap shot from Renberg that trickled\n through Pavoni's 5-hole. Then, another defensive mistake by the Swedes,\n Waeger was allowed to skate around the Swedish goal unattacked and from close\n range could make it 4-5. Hollenstein then scored 4-6 on a 2-on-1 break away,\n and put it top shelf with no chance for Soderstrom.\n\n Switzerland:\n\n Goaltender:  20 Reto Pavoni  (28 Renatio Tosio)\n Defense:     26 Rick Tschumi, 2 Martin Steinegger\n              16 Sven Leuenberger, 5 Martin Rauch\n               7 Sandro Bertaggia, 17 Patrick Sutter\n              31 Samuel Balmer\n Forwards:    22 Alfred Luthi, 11 Felix Hollenstein, 25 Roman Waeger\n              23 Gil Montandon, 12 Roberto Triulzi, 10 Patrick Howald\n              35 Christian Weber, 18 Andreas Ton, 24 Joerg Eberle\n              15 Bruno Erni, 13 Thomas Vrabec, 29 Manuele Celio\n \n- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -\n\n RUSSIA - CANADA  1-3 (0-2,1-1,0-0)\n\n 1st: CAN 0-1 Kevin Dineen 1     (Garry Galley)                       4:28\n      CAN 0-2 Paul Kariya 2      (Eric Lindros)                      12:20 (pp)\n 2nd: CAN 0-3 Eric Lindros 10    (Paul Kariya,Shayne Corson)          9:40\n      RUS 1-3 Valeri Karpov 2    (?)                                 16:24\n 3rd:\n\n Penalties: RUS 2*2min 1*5min, CAN 5*2min\n Referee: Anton Danko, Czech republic\n Attendance: 8,600\n\n Russia probably made their best game of the tourney, but yet there wasn't\n enough to win against the effective Canadians.\n\n Galley took a slap shot that found Dineen by the far post, and Dineen just\n deflected the puck past Trefilov in the Russian goal. Then a power play\n goal, after a couple of deflections Eric Lindros found Kariya alone by the\n far post, and Kariya put the puck high over a sliding Trefilov.\n Russia won the shots in the first period 12-5, and they had the most of\n the scoring opportunities, but they just couldn't score.\n Second period saw Lindros scoring his 10th (!!) goal of the WC. Kariya\n entered the Russian zone, slammed on the break to get past his defenseman,\n then made a nice pass to Corson who just got the stick on the puck to\n deflect it to Lindros who one-timed the puck.\n The Russians then finally got their goal, Karpov broke in from the side\n and made a slap shot in Tugnutt's top right hand corner.\n \n Player of the game in Canada was voted Paul Kariya, and for Russia Valeri\n Karpov. I agree, the difference in this game was Lindros and Kariya, and\n in part also Tugnutt. Kariya had a far better game now than vs the Swedes,\n and he was very impressive. Kariya got the place in the line with Lindros\n after Mike Gartner went out with a rib-injury early in the first period.\n\n Lindros, BTW, lead the point scoring with 14 pts (9+5) before this game,\n 7 pts ahead of the next player! i.e. double as much as the next player\n (among those Kariya with 1+6). Amazing!\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n Group B results:\n\n FINLAND - CZECH REPUBLIC  1-3 (0-0,1-1,0-2)\n\n 1st:\n 2nd: CZE 0-1  Petr Hrbek 2           11:04\n      FIN 1-1  Mika Alatalo 1         17:51\n 3rd: CZE 1-2  Jiri Dolezal 3          5:04\n      CZE 1-3  Martin Hostak 2        19:45 (en)\n\n Penalties: FIN 8*2min, CZE 9*2min\n Referee: Vincent Moreno, Switzerland\n Attendance: 4,300\n\n- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -\n\n GERMANY - USA  6-3 (5-0,0-0,1-3)\n\n 1st: GER 1-0  Raimond Hilger 2        7:12\n      GER 2-0  Gerd Truntschka 3      11:16\n      GER 3-0  Ernst Kopf 3           11:55\n      GER 4-0  Michael Rumrich 3      16:06\n      GER 5-0  Benoit Doucet 1        18:45\n 2nd:\n 3rd: USA 5-1  Derek Plante 1          4:06\n      GER 6-1  Dieter Hegen 5          6:57\n      USA 6-2  Craig Johnson 1         7:30\n      USA 6-3  Rob Gaudreau 3         13:07\n\n Penalties: GER 7*2min, USA 10*2min\n Referee: Valeri Bokarev, Russia\n Attendance: 11,000\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Does anyone know of any studies done on the long-term health effects of a\nman's vasectomy on his female partner?\n\nI've seen plenty of study results about vasectomy's effects on men's health,\nbut what about women? \n\nFor example, might the wife of a vasectomized man become more at risk for,\nsay, cervical cancer?  Adverse effects from sperm antibodies?  Changes in the\nvagina's pH?  Yeast or bacterial infections?\n\nOutside of study results, how about informed speculation?\n\nThanks in advance for your help!","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Arthur Melnick posts an interesting first-hand message about his NEA\nalgorithm. Though I have no reason to disbelieve anything he says, I want to\nclarify one point:\n\nHe says he has no connection with the NSA. If he was part of an \"NSA plot\",\nof course he'd say that.\n\nNow I don't think he is. But the level of some discussion here is of that\nsort, and very quickly we reach the point where it's impossible to continue\nrationally discussing some issues.\n\n\"I am not a crook\"\n\n\"Well, if you were, of course you'd say that\"\n\n\nor the ever popular favorite:\n\n\"Please prove the following negative.\"\n\nI don't know what to do with such messages, so I have taken to ignoring\nthem.\n\nComments?\n\nDavid","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n  Hmm your CD-Rom program must be using some oddball VGA modes.\n\n  I think they are trying to get it out by the end of this month, when\nit is released though it'll be in limited quantities, I think they\nhave quite a back order right now (the 2 megs version will come out\na bit later).\n\n  Since you have a Viewsonic 17 (I think it has a 78khz horizontal\nfrequency right?), you're gonna love the 2 megs version.  It can\ndo 1280x1024x256 at 75Hz, 1152x900x256 at 80Hz, 1024x768x256 at 90Hz(!),\n1024x768x65536 at 75Hz.  It can also do 640x480x16 mil. and\n800x600x16 bit at 90Hz, too bad I don't have such a high bandwidth \nmonitor like yours ;) ;) (most of those modes need a 78khz monitor,\notherwise you'll have to use a lower refresh rate)\n\n  If you want more info. about the coming Graphite VL, you should\ngo to the IBM hardware section on Compuserve (IBMHW), in the\nvideo sig.  There're several Hercules reps there that are very\nhelpful.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I'm afriad that's not true.  The monitor problem seems to occur whenever\nthe 15\" Mag monitor is put into 1024x768 mode.  I'm running OS\/2 at 1024 and\nthe same symptoms appear.\n\nIt does not seem like a video card problem as the Cirrus Logic 5426 chip and\nthe ATI GUP seem to cause these problems... two VERY  different cards.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nHow about the discussion of the STS Tether experiment.  Ran forward,\nit would suck energy from the Earth's magnetic field, while trivially\nslowing the Shuttle.  It could also have run backward -- if they ran \nelectricity through the tether the other way, it would have trivially\npropelled the Shuttle faster.\n\nBut an even better example comes to mind.  There's this electronics guy,\nsomeone like Craig Anderton or Don Lancaster.  Ten years ago he wrote about\nan invention of his.  He could take a light-detector, run current through\nit at about a hundred times its rating, and it would glow.  He got legal\nrights to this design of a combination \"fiber optic emitter\/receiver\".  This\nturned out to be the basic unit of ATT's  (I think) plan to bring Brazil's\ncommunications system into the 21st century.  (The article was mostly about\nhis legal wranglings with the company that eventually got him well-compensated\nfor his invention.)","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"anyone else experiencing a similar problem?\n\nThis concerns the clutch on a 92 Honda Accord 5 speed. When the clutch\nis first used in the morning, about the first 4 miles of shifting, there\nis a significant amount of clutch chatter until things warm up.  Then the\nclutch shifts smoothly.  This chatter started when I moved to the San \nFrancisco Bay area from a low-humidity environment.  The dealer stated\nthat this is known to happen since Honda changed from an asbestos to\nnon-asbestos clutch material.  No remedy!! Seems that moisture on clutch\nsurface causes slipping until the moisture evaporates.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n Marcus Thuresson had 6 goals, 10 assists, 16 points and 22 PIM in 31 games\n this season for Leksand in the Swedish elite league. This was only 10th\n in point scoring for Leksand.\n\n Marcus (born May 31 1971, Ht 185 cm, Wt 85 kg) is relatively young so he\n might still start producing, but I think the Sharks may have done a bad\n trade here.\n\n Staffan\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nHe'll slam Clinton for anything at all on the air.  I just do not\nunderstand why he remains so popular.  He'll take a piece of video of\nClinton walking along; find a frame in which Clinton wrinkles his\nnose, say; freeze on it and blow it up full screen; and then rant for\nfive minutes on how no one could possibly trust someone with such a\nface and such beady greedy little eyes.  I've seen this on his TV show\n(it was around the time of the inauguration).  Can anyone call this\nstuff legitimate (I hate to say \"informed\") commentary?  How can\nanyone with half a brain in his or her head[1] continue to watch\nit[2]?\n\nThe American TV-watching (and I guess radio-listening) public never\nceases to amaze me.\n\n\t\/J\n\n[1] Oops, have I just inadvertently answered my own question?\n\n[2] I myself only see it when I run across it every couple months when\n    channel-surfing late at night; the longest I've been able to stand\n    him was about 10 minutes.\n\n(Apologies for stripping the alt.fan.rush groups from the Newsgroups\nline; the software here apparently rejects anything with groups we\ndon't carry, and we don't carry those.  Also I removed sci.crypt from\nfollowups.)","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"In <May.13.02.31.16.1993.1569@geneva.rutgers.edu> djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu\n\n\nI'm afraid I see that question as very tendentious.  Try rephrasing it:\n\n\tWhat's more important to Christians?  Love of God or love\n\tof other human beings?\n\nto which of course the only conceivable answer is that the one is like\nthe other.  I am *deeply* suspicious of any \"flavor\" of Christianity\nwhich would elevate one clause of the Great Commandment to a \"priority\"\nover the other such as to claim a conflict.  True, we are told to let\nthe dead bury the dead, to \"hate\" family rather than let it keep us from\nfollowing Christ.  But the dichotomy here is not one between love of our\nfellows and love of God, but of allowing *social* constructs to blind us\nto the presense of God.  It is particularly satanic to twist love of God\nin such a manner as to become an excuse to treat others as on a different\nlevel than the one who is so caught up in \"love\" of God.\n\nThe trouble comes in the relation of human love and human sex.  Yes, it\nhas sometimes been the case that the Church has \"taught\" that all sex\nwas nasty, evil, sinful stuff.  But when man and wife leave their parental\nhomes to become helpmates, living in one flesh, it is the sex that is the\nvehicle of becoming \"one flesh\" (if you doubt me, read St. Paul on what\nis wrong with frequenting prostitutes :-)).  Less provocatively, what I\nmean is just this: sexual bonding is a deeply founded aspect of our social\ninteraction, and in particular is the foundation of the institution of\nmarriage, so that unlike with many mammals, human males remain with and\nfoster the children they beget and support their children's mothers.\nThis is the schema behind Genesis 2:18-24 (and behind Jesus' citation of\nthat passage.)\n\n\t[ I observe, by the way, that not all human males in fact do as\n\t  I have just described; but another thing that characterizes\n\t  human societies is our raising of *non*begotten children, not\n\t  only orphans and adoptees and the like, but products of the\n\t  quite common infidelities of humans to their spouses. We are\n\t  in this not unique in the animal world, but the full extent of\n\t  social consequences and implications is most intricate for us. ]\n\nYes, of course it sometimes goes \"wrong\" -- like all else we do, it is\ninfected with sin, and you find married \"couples\" where there is no bond,\nand people so deliriously addicted to the initial stages of sexual bond\nformation (the \"infatuation\", \"falling in love\" phase) that they break\nany forming bond in order to keep stepping over the threshold of the deep\nunity God has prepared for us, and stepping back out again right away.\nSatan may indeed *use* sex as a very handy tool to corrupt human love --\nbut in the Edenic creation, that is not its nature, and with God's grace\nunder the power of Christ to make all things new it need not be a problem\nfor Christians (though we must be vigilant, even in Christ, as the devil\nis watchful, prowling around like a roaring lion seeking someone to devour.)\n\nSo, returning to the original question, what is more important to STRAIGHT\nChristians?  Sex, or Christianity?  Paul, clearly, tended to think that\nsex was at best a distraction from Christianity (though to be charitable\nto him, his context was in expectation of immediate parousia, so that the\nhard TASKS of a married union -- the lifelong building and adaptation to\neach other -- seemed somehow to undercut the \"proper\" preparation for an\nimmediate eschaton.  Since we *do not* know the hour of return, we should\nact *both* with instant readiness for that *and* with a commitiment to our\nmates that proposes a long lifetime together.  And telling people *not* to\nbond in such a perspective strikes me as crippling us in the second clause\nof the the commandment to love.  I would claim that only a very few saints\nhave the CAPACITY to deeply love (without sexual tinges or complication,\nmind you) their fellow human beings unless they have had a deeply spiritual\nlife in married union growing together as one flesh -- and that means in\nthe type case, with a persistent and continued sexual relationship.  We\nare human, and little good comes of trying to \"mortify the flesh\" to the\npoint of pretending to be otherwise, pretending NOT to be sexual beings.\n\n\nIt depends entirely on context.  If that context is major hypocrisy\non the part of those who find us \"stumbling blocks\" I am much less of\na mind to efface myself so that they can pontificate about MY sins.\n\nThere are some people for whom a life of celibacy is a spritual gift,\nand maybe even a victory against a to-them troubling sexual urge that\nseems to them to lead only to sin.  Nothing I say should ever be read\nas demeaning such a gift.  Nor the even rarer gift of love for all our\nconspecifics, and indeed for all God's creation, that can develop to\nthe full *without* the tutoring of a spousal\/helpmate marriage founded\nin sex.  But there is a difference between spiritual gifts and penance;\ntelling people that they HAVE to have a particular gift (or else? what?)\nis fraught with manipulation and disregard of the differences of our\nspiritual endowments from God.  To one person is given the gift of\nspeaking in toungues, to another intepretation of toungues; to yet\nanother prophecy; and to still another teaching.  The notion that some\n*particular* gift is required of *all* is one of the earliest heresies.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nA religion is a cult which if those in power belong to it.\n\nActually, they're all bull shit.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Hello\n\n\tI am the proud new owner of a MAC 512K.  Upon power-up and insertion\n\tof the sytem disk, I get SAD MAC code 0F0064.  Can anyone give me a \n\tclue to what this means?\n\n\tThanks.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I am wanting to upgrade from a 386SX-25, to a 486DX-33, and are looking at a\ncheap quote from someone offering me a 486DX-33 motherboard, with no ram in\nit.  (I will probably sell my old m-board off somewhere)\nNow, I have 4 meg of RAM in my 386, which consists of\n\n4 x 9 module 1024KB simms, running at 70 nanoseconds.\n    ^^^^^^^^                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\nWould I encounter problems with the pointed out areas, by throwing these from\none computer to the other?","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nShe's published two books about her manic-depressive illness: \n\n_Call Me Anna: the Autobiography of Patty Duke_, Patty Duke and \nKenneth Turan, Bantam Books 1987 \n\nand\n\n_A Brilliant Madness:  Living with Manic-Depressive Illness_, Patty \nDuke and Gloria Hochman, Bantam Books 1992\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Several replies to my post have said that I should get to know  \nChristian homosexuals before judging them.  I maintain that I was not  \njudging them by saying that homosexuality is wrong.   I would like to  \nlook at the responces to my post and make a general sterotypical  \nevaluation of the people who responded to the side of Christianity  \nand homosexuality being compatible (admitedly not all are homosexuals  \nbut I know that many are from their e-mail responces).  I don't  \nnormally make sterotypical assumptions about groups of people, but  \nsince I have been asked to by many of the opposing veiw point I will.\n\nSo far people have made wild assumptions, put me down because I don't  \nhave the resources of others, and even reverted to name calling.  If  \nyou don't think this is an acurate representation then those of you  \nwho are homosexual Christians show me the diffrence.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nIn the interest of accuracy (seems a liitle late to start\nthat, I know) the medical examiner has *not* contradicted\nthe FBI.\n\nThe FBI said they found some folks who had been shot in\nthe head, and the medical examiner said \"we have not seen\nevidence of this\".\n\nAt the time the medical examiner said that, they were dealing\nwith charred bodies in the compound - this sounds like\ntypical medical examiner not releasing details until\na thorough investigation.  The medical examiner saying\nhe hasn't seen something is *not* the same thing as saying\nthat it isn't there.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nFor an expansion team?  I'm pretty sure I would go with the rings, as long\nas their salaries and ages weren't too high.  I would want the fans to be \nable to identify the players.  I would like a championship attitude in the \nclubhouse.\n\nAs for Larkin and Griffin?  Salaries aside, I would have to consider which\nplayer is likeliest to contribute to a WS victory.  Past performance, age and\nattitude would all be integral to my decision.  I certainly wouldn't just\nhaul out my copy of Gillete and pick Larkin, as many others would.  And,\nunlike many others who post to this group, I hardly consider myself quali-\nfied to make those kinds of decisions.\n\n\nI have never been able to believe it about myself, to tell you the truth.\nIt's like banging your head against a stone wall.\n\n-- ","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Hey now,\n\n   I'm having the roughest time getting a company to cover\nmy new bike.  Here are some details about her and me:\n\nI'm:\n\n  single\n  23\n  riding with a clean record\n  a homeowner\n  a 'new' rider accoring to most companies\n  not a member of MSF or AMA yet  \n\n\n\n   She's:\n \n   a '92 CBR600F2\n   got 150 miles\n   got temp plates still\n   one screamin' bitch of a ride...\n\n\n   Can you get me some ideas?  We can take them to private\nemail to lower the noise on the net.\n\n   mrr3@po.cwru.edu is a good mail address.  I need to\nhear something soon so I can keep her on the road...\n\n   Thanks in advance,\n   Mark","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nThis is historically incorrect.  Early Zionist 'fighters' did indeed\ntarget civilians.  They made random attacks in Arab marketplaces,\nkilling innocent passers-by.  Your assertion of the opposite is an\nattempt to whitewash history.  Anyone can read about the history of\nthe Zionist terrorists.  A good book to start is the one by J. Bowyer\nBell, an expert in international terrorism.  (His main interest is\nIrish terrorism.)\n\n        AUTHOR: Bell, J. Bowyer, 1931-\n         TITLE: Terror out of Zion : Irgun Zvai Leumi, LEHI, and the Palestine\n                  underground, 1929-1949 \/ J. Bowyer Bell.\n     PUB. INFO: New York : St. Martin's Press, c1977.\n   DESCRIPTION: xi, 374 p., [14] leaves of plates : ill., maps ; 24 cm.\n      SUBJECTS: *S1 Lohame herut Yisrael.\n                *S2 Irgun tsevai leumi.\n                *S3 Israel-Arab War, 1948-1949.\n                *S4 Jewish-Arab relations--1917-1949.\n     LC CALLNO: DS119.7.B382 1977\n\nFor completeness, Arab thuggery of the same period was also rampant,\nand targeted chiefly Jewish civilians.  Can anyone tell me what the\nopposite of live and let live is?","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n[...]\n\n                                            ^^^^^^^^^\n\nHe doesn't have a beard.\n\nRob, being pointless, wondeing if anyone else caught that.\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n____    ___   ____       \/    \\ Any resemblance between the above views and\n==================  \/ .clarku.edu  \\ want Clarkies to think about them.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nWhat is the penalty if convicted of murdering 4 Federal agents\nin Texas?  The death penalty.\n\n\nYup.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I posted almost the same bad experience with  Midwest Micro but our\n%^*^&*^&* news program only sent one paragraph out of the middle. In\naddition to the facts that:\n(a) the modems (I had ordered two) wouldn't work as documented\nand\n(b) the tech person had NO CLUE as to how it should work,\nit also turned out that:\n(c) one of the two modems they sent was clearly USED but the techs\nthought that was standard practice and\n(d) the modems made all three of my floppy drives quit working and\nmy CMS250 tape drive start running away.\n\nThat they are incompetent is one thing, but that they sell used stuff\nas new and won't even apologize for it is another. Stay away from\nthese crooks!","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI applauded the Sabres for making the deal to get Fuhr, specifically because I\nthought it would help them win at least one playoff series.  However, I don't\nthink the Leafs can be faulted either...there is nothing to say that Felix\nwon't be winning playoff series by himself in years to come.  \n\nAnyway, does anybody else find it ironic that Fuhr is up against Moog? (or at\nleast he was until a guy named Alex showed up....:-) )\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Hi, netters:\n\nWe have a problem with 'makedepend': it doesn't know how to correctly process\n#if clause in C preprocessor statements. It evaluates everything to\ntrue no matter what the conditionals are.\nFor example, makedepend chokes on one of X11 include files (as distributed\nby Sun) - namely Xos.h:\n\n#if     !defined(SUNOS41) || defined(__STDC__)\n#       include <string.h>\n#       define  index   strchr\n#       define  rindex  strrchr\n#else   \/* BSD && !__STDC__ *\/\n#       include <strings.h>\n#endif  \/* !SUNOS41 || __STDC__ *\/\n\nHere 'makedepend' evaluates both #if and corresponding #else statements\nto 'true' and tries to open the file <strings.h> which doesn't exist\nunder Solaris2.\nWe also have a lot of #if statements in some of our legacy code.\nWe got and built 'makedepend' off the net - it didn't fix the problem.\n\nIn all fairness it should be noted that 'makdepend' man-page (Sun's\ndistribution) mentions this problem:\n\nBUGS\n     If you do not have  the  source  for  cpp,  the  Berkeley  C\n     preprocessor, then makedepend will be compiled in such a way\n     that all #if directives will evaluate to  \"true\"  regardless\n     of  their  actual  value.  This may cause the wrong #include\n     directives to be evaluated.  Makedepend should  simply  have\n     its own parser written for #if expressions.\n\nHas anybody come up with some solution\/fix to 'makdepend' other than\nWriteYourOwnParser... and willing to share it with us?\n\nSince we often experience delays in our newsfeed - please reply \ndirectly to my e-mail address -> I'll post a summary.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n\nFeel free to patronize me all you like; I need the tips. :-)\nSeriously, if you were insulted, I apologize.\n\n\nPeople are sucking up to the government when they decide that ONLY the\nthings the government says are plausible.  Especially if they refuse to\nconsider reasonable alternatives.\n\nHowever, from what I saw plastered all over the TV news last night, it's\nno longer necessary to be an \"independent thinker\" to depart from the\ngovernment's party line.  It looks like our \"independent press\" may \nactually be starting to be earn its clothes allowance.  This, to me, is\na good sign.  I hope it continues.\n\n\nIndependent thinkers question authority.  In a situation where only one\nset of facts are being presented, \"coming to a conclusion\" is not the \nhallmark of an independent thinker unless it's coupled with the ability\nto challenge those \"facts\" critically.  The scientific method consists\nof more than choosing the popular hypothesis; it's even more than choosing\nbetween two hypotheses that other people have proposed.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":": \n: or the biggest killer (IMO)\n: \n:    6) one's dreams are (sadly) shattered on the hard rocks of society's\n:       version of reality.  Without the dream the motivation dies, without\n:       the motivation the effort seems useless.\n: \n\nActually there are more possibilities -- one is that with practice the\nhacker has become so good and powerful in manipulating data streams\nthat s\/he goes simply underground...\n\nPossessing true power perhaps there is no need to impress anyone with it.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n   This is no less logical than the assumption that if something is\n_not_ in the Bible, then it _must not_ be done.  But I don't really\nthink that's what he's saying anyway.  See below.\n\n\n   What about the letter to Philemon?  In it Paul at least hints that a\ncertain slave be released.  Also, slavery in those times was not the\nsame as the type of slavery we had in the U.S.  I think a better\ncomparison would be to indentured servitude.  I don't really want to get\ninto a discussion on slavery.  Anyway, although it does demonstrate your\npoint, I don't think it is relevent, because the original poster did not\nsay that absence of specific condemenation proves something is not\nimmoral.\n\n   Back to the original poster's assertion.  He is not in fact making\nthe logical error of which you accuse him.  He stated the fact that the\nBible does not say that babies cannot be baptized.  Also, we know that\nthe Bible says that _everyone_ must be baptized to enter Heaven.\n_Everyone_ includes infants, unless there is other Scripture to the\ncontrary, i.e. an exception.  Since there is no exception listed in the\nBible, we must assume (to be on the safe side) that the Bible means what\nit says, that _everyone_ must be baptized to enter Heaven.  And so we\nbaptize infants.\n\n   To summarize, you accused the original poster of saying if something\nis not forbidden by the Bible, then that proves it is OK; i.e. if\nsomething cannot be disproven, it is true.  He rather seemed to be\nasserting that since the Bible does not forbid, _you cannot prove_,\nusing the Bible, that it is _not_ OK.  There is a difference between\nproving whether or not something can be proven or disproven (there are\ntheories on provability in the field of Logic, by the way) and actually\nproving or disproving it.  The other logical error we must avoid falling\ninto is the converse: that if something cannot be proven, then it is\nfalse.  This seems to be the error of many _sola scriptura_ believers.\n\n   I think the only thing that can be proven here is that one cannot use\nScripture alone to prove something either way about infant Baptism,\nalthough the evidence seems to me to favor it.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n...\n\nSpeedy, you've got this all wrong.  When you're done, buy a better dirt\nbike, body armor, decent boots, and forget about the weenie street riding.\n:-) ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"John E. King (king@ctron.com) posts a whopping one liner:\n\n * \"The modern theory of evolution is so inadequate that it deserves to be *\n *  treated as a matter of faith.\" -- Francis Hitching                     *\n\n  I have a few points to make about the above posting.\n\n    1. Science is not based on and does not consist of \"quotes\" from either\n    real or alleged experts.  Critical reasoning, evidence and (if possible)\n    experimentation are necessary.  Creationists frequently display a massive\n    confusion about this by merely quoting both non-experts and experts alike\n    (some of the latter quotes are in fact false) and steadfastly refusing to\n    follow any kind of rigorous scientific procedure.  This strongly suggests\n    that (a.) their claims completely lack any scientific merit and (b.) they\n    are aware of this fatal deficiency.  Of course, you may not actually be a\n    creationist and this may not be your real intent.\n\n    2. You have failed to identify Hitching and the surrounding context of his\n    statement.  Why is that?  If Hitching is a scientific illiterate then the\n    quote would merely display his profound ignorance of evolutionary biology.\n    Creationists are frequently known to quote real scientists out of context\n    and to fabricate statements that they subsequently attribute to legitimate\n    scientists.  Of course, you may not actually be a creationist and this may\n    not be your real intent.\n\n    3. Evidence supporting the alleged inadequacies of \"the modern theory of\n    evolution\" would be a much more powerful argument than a contextless one\n    line quote from an unidentified nobody.  It is also important to note that\n    disproving biological evolution does not automatically prove some alternate\n    claims any more that disproving that the earth is shaped like a hockey puck\n    proves that it is a hyperbolic paraboloid.  Creationists seem rather fond\n    of diving (head first) into this logical fallacy.  Of course, you may not\n    actually be a creationist and this may not be your real intent.\n\n    4. Since evolution is central to virtually all of modern science, an attack\n    on evolution (either the fact or the theory) really represents an attack on\n    science.  While the theory will unquestionably continue to evolve (B^) the\n    fact of evolution will not ever go away.  Creationists lost the battle long\n    ago (more than 100 years in fact) but are simply too willfully ignorant and\n    irrational to acknowledge the fact.  Of course, you may not actually be a\n    creationist and you may not really be that ignorant.\n\n\nWarren Kurt vonRoeschlaub (kv07@IASTATE.EDU) asks:\n\n * Neither I, nor Webster's has ever heard of Francis Hitchings.  Who is he? *\n\n  I, like Hitchings, am not to be found in Webster's B^).  Francis Hitchings\nis a scientifically illiterate creationist (or perhaps he is just playing the\npart of one) who wrote a quite ignorant book attacking evolution (\"The Neck of\nthe Giraffe\").  In that publication he quotes a creationist (Jean Sloat Morton)\nusing the standard invalid creationist probability argument that proteins could\nnot have formed by chance.  Thus not only confusing abiogenesis with evolution\n(the two are quite independent) but also concluding with a \"non sequitur\" (i.e.\nthe conclusion \"does not follow\"). [pp 70-71]  Hitchings also misquotes Richard\nLewontin in an effort to support creationism. [pp 84]\n\n  Hitchings book was reviewed by National Park Service ecologist David Graber\nin the Los Angeles Times (and repeated in the Oregonian).  The article was\ntitled \"`Giraffe' sticks scientific neck out too far\".  Excerpts include :\n\n  \"Francis Hitchings is not a biologist.\"  \"He goes after Darwin like Mark\n  Antony after Brutus.  He flips from scientific reasoning to mysticism and\n  pseudo-science with the sinuosity of a snake-oil salesman.\"  \"He suggests\n  a mystical `organizing principle' of life, using the similarity of organs\n  in different creatures as evidence [sic].\"\n\n  Note that the last statement above is actually evidence FOR evolution not\nagainst it.  If John E. King is quoting from this reviewed book it wouldn't\nsurprise me much.  It's also interesting that King had nothing to add (i.e.\nhe only posted a quote).\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nI had this problem when I initially installed my sound blaster pro and here's\nwhat the tech support told me.\n\nThey told me to look for the files that are stated in the readme file from\nthe win31 subdirectory of the soudblaster directory. Now look in the system.ini\nfile and if any of them say device=xxxxxxx.386 than change it to \ndevice=*xxxxxxx\nThats should work. Was your system.ini file erased for some reason? That would\nbe the only reason that I would think that Windoes is giving you the error now.\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Somebody help me cure my poor computer before I go insane!\n\nI have a problem with my 486 when running windows that appears\nto be memory-related.  It's actually not limited to windows, but\nthat's where it causes most of my problems.  Ths machine's 486DX33,\n8Meg RAM, 256Kcache, TRIDENT TVGA card, PAS-16 soundcard.\n\n1)  Windows runs REALLY, REALLY slow most of the time.  Slower than\non my old 386SX16.  Graphics draws\/fills are slow, boots are slow,\napplications are sluggish, dialog boxes take up to 15 seconds to appear.\n(Note: some of my other non-windows applications do funny things that\nappear to be related.  Several run slow, my .mod player crashes the\nsystem etc..)\n\n2) Running Borland C++ 3.0 before running windows (or any of the other\nprograms)  COMPLETELY fixes the problem.  Windows will run as fast as\nI've ever seen it run, easily 10 times faster for graphics than\nwhen I don't run BC beforehand.\n\n3)  I don't have a memory manager installed in config.sys.  Installing\nemm386.exe does not fix the problem- it makes it worse.  After emm386 is\ninstalled, running BC will not fix the problem anymore.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nJust a follow-up note, I have sold the receiver, so don't e-mail or call \nme anymore.  Sorry to dissapoint anyone.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nIt would be nice if someone here from the HST program was talking instead\nof all the speculation that is going on here. From what I understand from\nDr. Frank Six of the Marshall Space Flight Center there is no insrmountable\nproblem in bringing HST back. IT was designed that way to begin with.\n\nAlso it is my understanding that the solar arrays WILL be one of the items\nreplaced on this mission. The originals were built by Brit Aerospace and\nI think the new ones are too. I am currently working with the guys at MSFC\nthat are in charge is the HST power system, although I have not spoken with\nthem in a long time about HST. ","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Standings reflecting 2 completed series in Round 1:\n\n    Participant                Points   Final 4\n 1. roland_behunin                  5   CAL-6 QUE-7 QUE-7 \n    Dave_Wessels                    5   VAN-7 PIT-6 PIT-5 \n 3. Barfly                          0   TOR-6 BOS-7 TOR-6 \n    Dean's                          0   DET-5 PIT-5 PIT-7 \n    Oz                              0   LAK-6 BOS-6 LAK-6 \n    Garry                           0   TOR-6 BOS-6 BOS-4 \n    Brian_Bergman                   0   DET-6 PIT-6 DET-6 \n    Mopar_Muscle_Men                0   CHI-5 PIT-6 PIT-5 \n    BH's_Last_Place_Picks           0   CHI-5 PIT-6 PIT-5 \n    Milton_Keynes_Kings             0   DET-6 PIT-5 PIT-5 \n    Sam_&_His_Dogs                  0   DET-6 PIT-5 PIT-5 \n    Ye_Ding                         0   DET-6 PIT-5 PIT-6 \n    Tampere_Stars                   0   CHI-6 PIT-6 PIT-6 \n    The_Mighty_Hedgehogs_Of_Myllyp  0   CHI-6 BOS-6 BOS-6 \n    Homesick_Hawaiian               0   VAN-7 PIT-6 PIT-5 \n    Killer_Kings                    0   CHI-6 WAS-6 CHI-6 \n    Puggy_Greybeards                0   DET-5 PIT-5 PIT-5 \n    Ottawa_Bearcats                 0   TOR-5 PIT-6 TOR-6 \n    Andrew_Kirk                     0   TOR-6 PIT-6 PIT-5 \n    Muller_n_Walker                 0   DET-6 PIT-6 PIT-6 \n    Excalibur                       0   DET-6 PIT-4 PIT-6 \n    Rednecks_from_Hockey_Hell       0   DET-7 BOS-5 BOS-5 \n    The_@$%@#$%_Rangers_of_1940     0   CHI-6 PIT-7 PIT-6 \n    Jeff_Phelps                     0   DET-6 PIT-6 PIT-5 \n    Arctic_Circles                  0   DET-6 PIT-6 PIT-4 \n    Sludge                          0   DET-6 PIT-6 DET-6 \n    The_Logistician                 0   DET-6 PIT-6 DET-7 \n    Hillside_Raiders                0   CHI-6 BOS-6 BOS-7 \n    Danielle                        0   CHI-5 QUE-7 QUE-7 \n    Stanias_Stars                   0   CHI-6 BOS-7 BOS-6 \n    BloodHook                       0   DET-5 PIT-5 PIT-5 \n    Gilles_Carmel                   0   CHI-6 PIT-7 PIT-7 \n    Pasi_Fr{nti                     0   LAK-7 PIT-5 PIT-6 \n    Evan_Pritchard                  0   VAN-6 PIT-6 PIT-5 \n    Skriko_Wolves                   0   DET-7 PIT-5 PIT-5 \n    Rangers_Blow                    0   CAL-7 PIT-6 PIT-4 \n    Sean                            0   DET-5 PIT-5 PIT-6 \n    Schott_Shooters                 0   CHI-6 PIT-5 PIT-5 \n    Gary_Shiff                      0   TOR-4 PIT-6 PIT-4 \n    Mike_Burger                     0   DET-7 PIT-6 DET-7 \n    Darse                           0   DET-6 PIT-6 PIT-6\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
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{"text":"Ken,\nThen what happens when you die?\nWhy are you here?\nWhat is the purpose of Your life, do you think it's \njust by chance you're in the family you are in and have the\nfriends you have?\nWhy do you think your searching?  To fill the void that\nexists in your life.  Who do you think can fill that void","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nI suppose for the same reason that you do not believe in all the gods.  Why\nshould any be any different?  I use the same arguments to dismiss Koresh\nas I do god.  Tell me, then, why do you not believe that Koresh is the son\nof god?  By logic it is equally possible that Koresh is Jesus reborn. \n\n\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"We have an copy of the book, new, not read. $20 plus S\/H. DC if you can\npickup. (The book has over 1100 pages and is quite heavy.)\n\nFeng","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nJ<--> \nJ<--> Yahooooooooooooooooooooo!\nJ<--> \nJ<--> What a game, we finally beat those diques...and in O.T.!\nJ<--> The Habs dominated this game and especially in O.T..\n\nYou realize that we dominated game 1 also and should be ahead in this \nseries 2 - 1?\n\nJ<--> Glorieux were plagued by bad luck; the puck wouldn't bounce their\nJ<--> way.  But in O.T. they got their lucky break, the winning goal\nJ<--> went off Gusarov's skate.  Thank you Lord!!!!!!\n\nAnd it's about time! We hit 2 posts in this overtime and 1 post in \ngame 1's overtime. Let's hope that **we** start getting some luck for \na change.\n\nHe played well in this game but Roy's inconsistency still makes me \nnervous. Otherwise, I'd say we're going to win this series, no sweat. \nIt's all up to Patrick Roy to provide **consistent** goaltending.\n\nJ<--> And those damn Bruins lost in O.T., their down 3-0.  Congratulations\nJ<--> Buffalo!!\nJ<--> \nJ<--> Life doesn't get better than this!!!!!!!!!\n\nAgreed. <g> \n\n- Jack\n\n * Tagline Bad or Missing  NO CARRIER","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I have seen Copper Bracelet by the name of Sabona created by Dr. John\nSorenson.  I am looking for literature on the effectiveness of Copper\nBracelet in dealing with Arthritis. \n\nI know in one case a 70-year old person developed bruise at the base of her\nleft thumb after wearing the copper bracelet on her left wrist for several\nmonths.  She was told the bruise is \"normal\" and would disappear. \n\nIs the bruise reason to be concerned?\nShould the person discontinued wearing the copper bracelet?\nCould anyone kindly point me to literature on copper bracelet?\nWhat are the other information on copper bracelet?\n\nYour response would be very much appreciated.\n\nThank you.\n\nLau Hon-Wah","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nIf I get a chance I will ask them this weekend.\n\n                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\nThe words I have underlined are at the heart of the problem. A \"quick\nlook\" doesn't do justice to the depth of the book of Jeremiah. Having\nstudied the Jeremiah\/Ezekial period solidly for over a year at one\nstage of my life, I have to say that there is a great deal of underlying\ntheological meaning in the judgement prophesies. Let me make one point.\nThe clash between Jeremiah and the \"false prophets\" was primarily in\nthe theological realm. The \"false prophets\" understood their relatioship\nto God to be based on the covenant that the Lord made with David. It is\npossible to trace within the pages of the Old Testament who this covenant,\nwhich was initially conditional on the continued obedience of David's\ndescendants, came to be viewed as an unconditional promise on the part\nof the Lord to keep a descendant of David's upon the throne and to never\nallow Jerusalem to subjegated by any foreign power. Jeremiah was not a\nJudahite prophet. He was from Anathoth, across the border in what had formerly\nbeen Israelite territory. When he came to prophesy, he came from the\ntheological background of the covenant the Lord had made with Israel\nthrough Moses. The northern Kingdom had rejected the Davidic covenant\nafter the death of Solomon. His theology clashed with the theology of the\nlocal prophets. It was out of a very deep understanding of the Mosaic\ncovenant and an actute awareness of international events that Jeremiah\nspoke his prophesies. The \"judgement prophesies\" were deeply loaded with\ntheological meaning.\n\nIn my opinion, both the Portland earthquake prophesy and the David Wilkerson\n\"New York will burn\" prophesy are froth and bubble compared to the majestic\ntheological depths of the Jeremiah prophesies.\n\n--\n                                                                     ___\nBill Rea                                                            (o o)\n-------------------------------------------------------------------w--U--w---","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":" \n\nI would label him rather an original Christian, not a Pauline Christian,\nthough. Sad that the original church lost the game.\n\nCheers,\nKent","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nAs far as a member of the Armed Forces is concerned, the\nPresident is whatever the h*ll he wants to be. All of them\nrecently have rather insisted on being treated as something\nother than a *mere* civilian.\n\n\nSo if Hilary were asleep at the time......\n\n\nI like living in a country where the head of state is not\na military officer too. But this point about not using the\nmilitary as the first choice for solving domestic problems....\n\nDidn't they go after these Branch Davidians with a *tank*,\nafter all?\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Although the $1 billion scheme is a fantasy (it's an old canard in the space\nbusiness called \"trolling for billionaires\"), there is a good chance that a\nmuch smaller program ($65 million) will pass the 103rd Congress. This is the\nBack to the Moon bill, put together by the people who passed the Launch\nServices Purchase Act. The bill would incent private companies to develop\nlunar orbiters, with vendors selected on the basis of competitive bidding.\nThere is an aggregate cap on the bids of $65 million.\n \nHaving a single rich individual paying billions for lunar missions is probably\nworse than having the government bankroll a $65 million program, as the Delta\nClipper program has shown (DC-X was funded by SDIO at $59 million). We have a\nclear chance of making a lunar mission happen in this decade - as opposed to\nsimply wishing for our dreams to come true. Please support the Back to the\nMoon bill.\n \nFor more information, please send E-mail with your U.S. postal service\naddress.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nMotorcycles are not allowed on th 17 mile drive at pebble Beach.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nHowever, batters didn't use to go for strolls after bad calls to the degree\nthey do now.  \n\n\nEveryone was told of the new emphasis on speeding up games.  The rule that\nHirschbeck invoked has been in the books a long time.\n\n\nNobody, including Hirschbeck, ever said he was. \n\n\n\nThat's your (perhaps colored by your partisanship of the Braves)\nperception.  Hirschbeck's view was that Gant was heading off for a long\nwalk, and in accordance with his instructions concerning speeding games up,\ndirected him into the batter's box.\n\n\nThe point is, based on the rulebook and the umpires' instructions, it was\n*not* an unreasonable request.\n\nThe Braves were already upset\n\n\nHad Gant done as instructed, you wouldn't have remembered the name of the\numpire.  ","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"We've just recently upgraded our X11 to R5 and are now running into problems\nwith some of our applications that use Motif 1.1.  It appears that pointer to\nthe widget being passed to the callback function (i.e., the \"w\" of\n(w, client, call) ) is nil.  The client and call pointers are okay in some\ninstances, but bogus in other instances.\n\nWe are running SunOS 4.1.2 on a Sun 4.  After compiling X11R5 and all 23\npatches (with the MotifBC flag set), we recompiled Motif and then we \nrecompiled the application.\n\nDid we skip a step or leave something out?  Is there a flag that we should\nhave used?  Should we have left Motif alone?\n\nAny answers or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.\n\nThanks\nKathy","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Last year, I was totally surprised when my annual physical disclosed an\ninguinal hernia.  I couldn't remember doing anything that would have\ncaused it.  That is, I hadn't been lifting more than other people do,\nand in fact probably somewhat less.  Eventually the thing became more\npainful and I had the repair operation.\n\nThis year I developed a pain on the other side.  This turned out to be\nanother inguinal hernia.  So I go back to the hospital Monday for\nanother fun 8-) operation.\n\nI don't know of anything I'm doing to cause this to happen.  I'm 38\nyears old and I don't think I'm old enough for things to start falling\napart like this.  The surgeon who is doing the operation seems to\nsuspect a congenital weakness, but if so, why did it suddenly appear\nwhen I was 37 and not really as active as I was when I was younger?\n\nDoes anyone know how to prevent a hernia, other than not lifting\nanything?  It's rare that I lift more than my 16-month-old or a sack\nfull of groceries, and you may have noticed that your typical grocery\nsack is fairly small these days.  Is there some sort of exercise that\nwill reduce the risk?\n\nOf course, my wife thinks it's from sitting for long periods of time at\nthe computer, reading news...","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nAnd thus, COINTELPRO, in which horrible people who threatened the\nrepublic by disagreeing with the Government were systematically kept\ntrack of for years...\n\n--\nPerry Metzger\t\tpmetzger@shearson.com","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I've got an IN-2000 working in a (wimpy) 386SX20 presently.  In a few\nmonths I'm getting a 486 motherboard and probably a Toshiba 3401e CDROM and\na SBPro.\n\nWill I need special drivers for getting all this to work?  Do they exist?\nBasically, is this feasible, or should I expect to be getting a newer, \nfaster SCSI card?\n\nthanks,\n-Bryan\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n   We have a problem with 'makedepend': it doesn't know how to correctly process\n   #if clause in C preprocessor statements. It evaluates everything to\n   true no matter what the conditionals are.\n\n   [...]\n\n   Has anybody come up with some solution\/fix to 'makdepend' other than\n   WriteYourOwnParser... and willing to share it with us?\n\nrewrite 'makedepend' to use 'cc -M' or 'gcc -M' or 'gcc -MM' (which is\nthe one I prefer, since system headers don't change that often) for\ngenerating the actual dependencies.  you'll still need to write the\nparts that edit the actual Makefile.  I think there's a program in the\nBerkeley distributions called mkdep that will do essentially this.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Does anyone know how I can obtain information about the ICS widget data book?\nI only have their email address, and they don't seem to be reading (or \nreplying) to their mail.\n\n\n -------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n! Jan-Olav Eide, Software Engineer \/ Systems Administrator                 !\n! snail mail :                      ! email :                              !\n! Nordic Offshore Systems           ! olav@nordic-offshore.no              !  \n! Drilling Information Services     ! voice :                              !\n! Ringsveien 3, Box 185             ! (+47) 67125580 ext. 211              !\n! 1321 Stabekk                      ! fax   :                              ! \n! Norway                            ! (+47) 67125401                       !\n! \"I don't believe in astrology.  But then I'm a Capricorn, and            !\n! Capricorns don't believe in astrology\"                                   !\n --------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n\n-- ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nSo what do we have now, an integral over pain X time?\n\nI get to lash you with a wet noodle for ever, but I only get to\ncut you up with a power saw if I'm quick about it?","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\nNote the difference here. One is saying, if *Christ* disagrees with \na Christian being gay, *Christ* can change that.\n\nThe other is saying, if *I* think being gay is wrong, that a Christian\ncannot be gay, *I* need to tell them to change.\n\n\nAs Lois said, and as before her Paul wrote to the believers in Rome,\nWHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE ANOTHER'S SERVANT?\n\n-jen\n\n-- ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nI agree with the body of your post, but please reconsider your phrasing\nhere.  I think these ideas are selfish AND rational, which\nis commendable.\n\nDon't give selfishness a bad rap.  If we were all selfless there would\nbe no moral reason NOT to have a draft.  It [the draft] is the ultimate \nin mindlessly serving your fellow man with no thought to the importance\nof the self.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nThis may sound argumentative, but do the pro-homosexual crowd give the\nsame support to church members that are involved in incestuous relationships?\nIf we do a little substitution above, we get:\n\n\"although by no means all episcopalians are sympathetic to incestuous\nmen and women, there certainly is a fairly larget percentage (in my\nexperience) who are.  I am good friends with an episcopalian minister\nwho is ordained and living in a monogamous incestual relationship.  This\nin no way diminishes his ability to minister -- in fact he has a very\nsignificant ministry with the Incest association of his community...\"\n\nDo the same standards apply?  If not, why not?  And while we're in the\nballpark, what about bestiality?  I can't recall offhand if there are\nany direct statements in the Bible regarding sex with animals; does that\nactivity have more or less a sanction?\n\nPlease avoid responses such as \"you're taking this to extremes\".  I would\nguess that a disproportionate percentage of the inerrant Bible community\nviews homosexual acts with distaste in the same manner that society at\nlarge views incest.\n\n-- \n---------------------------------------------------------------------\nScott Cokely       | (714) 833-4760   scott.cokely@nb.rockwell.com\t\t    \n\"They came for the Davidians, but I did not speak up because\n I was not a Davidian.  Then they came for me...\"  Opinions expressed\nare mine and do not represent those of Rockwell.\n---------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n\n[ Obviously you can replace homosexuality in the above statement by\nanything from murder to sleeping late.  That doesn't mean that the\nsame people would accept those substitutions.  The question is whether\nthe relationships involved do in fact form an appropriate vehicle to\nrepresent Christ's relationship to humanity.  This is at least\n*partly* an empirical question.  \n\nIn some cases types of human relationship have been rejected because\nover time they always seem to lead to trouble.  I think that's the\ncase with slavery.  One can argue that in theory, if you follow Paul's\nguidelines, it's possible to have Christian slaveholders.  But in\npractice, over a period of time, most people came to the conclusion\nthat nobody can really have that degree of control over another and\nnot abuse it.  \n\nThe message you were responding to was asking you to look at the\nresults from Christian communities that endorse homosexuality.  (Note:\nChristian homosexuals, not people you see on the news advocating some\nextremist agenda).  You may not want to base your decision completely\non that kind of observation, but I would argue that it's at least\nrelevant.  You can't answer the request by asking why you shouldn't\nlook at the Incest association, because in fact there is no such\nassociation.  If there were, it might be reasonable for you to look at\nit too.  Of course that doesn't mean that the results of all such\nexaminations would necessarily come out the same way.  Part of why\nthere aren't groups pushing all possible relaxed standards is that\nsome of them do produce obviously bad results.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"We are using pkzip V2.04 and I am interested to hear from\npeople who have used one of the many Windows programs that\ncall these.\n\nWhich ones are available and does any one stand out amongst\nthe rest?\n\nIs there a full windows version that does not call the DOS \nPKZIP\/PKUNZIP commands?","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Does anyone on this group use this program? It stacks up pretty well to \nCorel Draw, and since I don't have a CDROM, it was the best buy...","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Thanks to Bruce Barnett, who recommended xvttool, and Bernward Averwald and\nLiam Quin, who recommended modifying .Xdefaults to get the desired behavior\nfor a *class* of xterms.\n\nIn xvttool, simply create a key file that looks like:\n\"a\"\t\"A\"\n\"b\"\t\"B\"\n\"c\"\t\"C\"\n...\nand specify said key file on the command line.  This will translate\nany input into any other (in my case, lo-case to up-case).  Works great, and\nyou get a customizable button-pad on the right or left side.\n\nTo use an xterm solution, add to your .Xdefaults:\ncapxterm*VT100.Translations: #override \\\n   <Key>a: string(\"A\")\\n\\\n   ...\n\nor:\ncapxterm.vt100.translations: #override \\n\\\n        <Key>a: insert-string(A) \\n\\\n        <Key>b: insert-string(B) \\n\\\n        ...\n\nand invoke as: xterm -name capxterm\n\nThanks loads!","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nTHE diarrhea problem?  WHAT diarrhea problem?  First, candidal overgrowth is\nnot a frequent problem during antibiotic therapy, and not all cases of\nantibiotic-related diarrhea have anything to do with candida.  But a case\nof vaginal candidiasis or oral thrush after antibiotic therapy isn't going\nto surprise anyone either.  That's not what people are disagreeing with.\n\n\nOh, really?  Where'd you come up with this?  You know, it's really\nappalling to see you try to comment authoritatively on clinical matters\nin a bizarre synthesis from reading reports in the literature.\nBobbing for citations in the research literature isn't medicine.\nI hope you're not giving the wrong idea to your medical students.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nThere are very few disciplines where 100% certainty is necessary to\nstate something as fact.  Baseball is not one of them.\n\nTherefore I can say that I know Clemens was better than Morris last\nyear, and Larkin was better than Griffin.  No, I can't ascertain this.\nI can't prove it.  But I'm not required to do so.\n\nAnd since you obviously feel that such threads are meaningless,\nwhy don't you simply stay out of them?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Hello, I've raytraced and rendered and the only difference I've found \nis that raytracing takes a hell of a lot longer. Am I missing\nsomething?","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI didn't mean that it would necessarily help him improve at that\nspecific deficiency.  I meant that if having Bonds bat behind him\ngives Williams (possibly unfounded) confidence, that might translate\ninto more hitting productivity.  But you're right -- if Williams'\nbiggest problem is more physical than mental, that's less likely\nto make a difference.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nApologies...  Your mail is probably in the pile that arrived just before\nI got sick about a month ago...  A reply will appear eventually...\n\n\nSo far, there have been none (unless you count an interview in The Amateur\nComputerist about the history of netnews, which may be disqualified because\nTAC's budget doesn't run to reproducing photos...).","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"The most current orbital elements from the NORAD two-line element sets are\ncarried on the Celestial BBS, (513) 427-0674, and are updated daily (when\npossible).  Documentation and tracking software are also available on this\nsystem.  As a service to the satellite user community, the most current\nelements for the current shuttle mission are provided below.  The Celestial\nBBS may be accessed 24 hours\/day at 300, 1200, 2400, 4800, or 9600 bps using\n8 data bits, 1 stop bit, no parity.\n\nElement sets (also updated daily), shuttle elements, and some documentation\nand software are also available via anonymous ftp from archive.afit.af.mil\n(129.92.1.66) in the directory pub\/space.\n\nSTS 55     \n1 22640U 93 27  A 93117.24999999  .00043819  00000-0  13174-3 0    47\n2 22640  28.4694 264.3224 0004988 261.3916 194.3250 15.90699957   104","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"         Brad Thone <C09615BT@WUVMD> writes...\n\n  Yep.  If Ed's list is over 45-degrees, the wind's too strong to ride.  :-)","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n...\n...\n\n\nI can think of another alternative:\n\n4)  OOBE's are a form of contact with the demonic world, whereby one \nintentionally or unintentionally surrenders control of his or her perceptions \nto spiritual beings whose purpose is to deceive and entrap them.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":" \n(Deletion)\n \nSorry, Gregg, it was no answer to a post of mine. And you are quite\nfond of using abusing language whenever you think your religion is\nmisrepresented. By the way, I have no trouble telling me apart from\nBob Beauchaine.\n \n \nI still wait for your answer to that the Quran allows you to beat your wife\ninto submission. You were quite upset about the claim that it was in it,\nto be more correct, you said it wasn't.\n \nI asked you about what your consequences were in case it would be in the\nQuran, but you have simply ceased to respond on that thread. Can it be\nthat you have found out in the meantime that it is the Holy Book?","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Hello all,\nI thought you all might like to see this. It's a letter from Jerry\nBerman to David Chaum from November of 1985, in response to\ninformation that Mr. Chaum sent to Mr. Berman.\n\nWhile I have to congratulate EFF for its prompt response to the\nClipper Chip announcement from the White House, I think it's important\nto recognize the philosophy of their Executive Director, as explained\nbelow.\n\nI agree that legal remedies are important, but when pressed, I'd\nprefer to retain the ability to use purely technical solutions to\npreserve my privacy, because they'll hold up under fire.\n\nMr. Chaum has consented to the publication of this letter on the Net. \n\nI don't work for, nor am I a member of EFF, ACLU, or any similar\norganizations, but I do agree with them on a great many things. \n\n\t\t\t\t\t--Aristophanes\n\n----------\n\n\n                     AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION\n\n\n                       WASHINGTON OFFICE        \n                                                               \n                                                    122 Maryland Avenue, NE\n November 1, 1985                                   Washington, DC 20002\n                                                    --------------------\n                                                    National Headquarters\nMr. David Chaum                                     132 West 43rd Street    \nCentre for Mathematics and Computer Science         New York. NY 10036    \nP.O. Box 4079                                       (212) 944-9800        \n19O9 AB Amsterdam                                   Norman Dorsen           \n                                              President        \nDear Mr. Chaum:                                     Ira Glasser\n                                                      Executive Director\n                                                    Eleanor Holmes Norton\n                                                      CHAIR\n                                                    National Advisory       \n                                                  Council\n                                                                         \n                                                                         \n                                                                            \n \n                                              \n\n\tThank you for sending me a most interesting article.   A\nsociety of  individuals  and  organizations  that  would  expend  the\ntime and resources to use a  series  of  'digital  pseudonyms' to\navoid data linkage does not in my opinion make big brother\nobsolete but  acts  on  the  assumption  that  big  brother  is  ever\npresent.  I  view  your  system  as  a  form  of  societal  paranoia.\n\n\tAs a matter of  principle,  we  are  working  to  enact  formal\nlegal protections for  individual  privacy  rather  than  relying  on\ntechnical solutions.   We want to  assume  a  society  of  law  which\nrespects legal limits rather than  a  society  that  will  disobey  the\nlaw, requiring  citizens  to  depend  on  technical  solutions.  e.g.\nrequire  a  judical  warrant  for  government  interception  of  data\ncommunications rather than  encrypt  all  messages  on  the  assumption\nthat regardless of the lawt  the  government  will  abuse  its  power\nand invade privacy.\n\n\tAs a  matter  of  practicality,  I  do  not  think  your  system\noffers much hope for privacy.    First, the trend toward universal\nidentifiers  is  as  much.-a  movement  generated  by  government  or\nindustry's desire to keep track of all citizens as it is by\ncitizens seeking simplicity and convenience in all transactions.\nAt best,  your  system  would  benefit  the  sophisticated  and  most\nwould opt for  simplicity.  The  poor  and  the  undereducated  would\nnever use or benefit from it.\n\n\tFinally where there's a  will, there's  a  way. If  government\nwants to link data bases, it  will,  by  law, require  the  disclosure\nof various individual pseudonyms used by citizens or prohibit it\nfor data bases which the government wants to link.      Since\ncorporations  make  money  by  trading  commercial  lists  with   one\nanother, they will never adopt  the  system  or  if  it  is  adopted,\nwill use \"fine printn  contracts  to  permit  selling  various   codes\nused by their customers to other firms.\n\n\tThe solution remains law, policy, and consensus about limits\non government or corporate intrusion into areas of individual\nautonomy.  Technique can be used to enforce that consensus or to\noverride it. It cannot be used as a substitute for such\nconsensus.\n\n\n\n                                            Sincerely Yours,\n\n                                             \/Sig\/\n\n                                            Jerry J. Berman\n                                            Chief Legislative Counsel\n                                            & Direrector ACLU\n                                            Privacy Technology Project\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nBMWs boxer twin! (no two wheelers here?) Been around since 1923. I think the\nother examples are Johnny come latelies... I may be wrong so no flames please..","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nNo smiley on the part about atheism, I see. Do you realize that your\nstatement says that I was mentioning \"nonsense\" about atheism? This is\nhard for me to defend against if this is the claim you are making, as you\nhave only included the last two sentences of my post and mentioned the\nfirst. Please address the substance of my post rather than rejecting it\nout of hand. \nBut, because of the sometimes ambiguous nature of English, I may be\nmisinterpreting your wording here. Please clarify: did you or did you not\nmean to call my statements about atheism \"nonsense\"? If so, care to back\nup that claim?\n\n\nOK, then. Start up the amatuer psycology again. How am I \"broken\"?\n\n\n*YAWN* Excuse me, I don't recall any portion of my post in which I called\nChristians arrogant quote me, if I did. I do remember calling Christianity\n\"silly\" and then following that up with information that I was nine years\nold when I thought that. I also said that I find faith to be intellectually\ndishonest and I would like to see some sort of proof of your god's\nexistence. I define \"faith\" as \"belief in the absense of any proof\", BTW.\n\nAlso, I subscribe to a.a as I mentioned and we see fundies of all types\nthere, so in answer to your question: \"no.\"\n\nFinally, I'd hardly call Christianity \"beseiged\" in this country. I seldom\nsee Christians ridiculed for merely practising their religion or wearing\ncrosses or having Christian bumper stickers. I don't know for sure, of\ncourse, I only say I haven't seen it happening. What I have seen happening\nis my homosexual and\/or friends being beat up, or preached at by people\nwho claim to be Christ's followers. I know that this sort of thing isn't\npracticed by the majority of Christians, but it is a very vocal minority\nwho are doing it and I don't see comperable victimization of Christians. \n\n\nThe implication being that I am not self-respecting, of course. I'm not a\nstudent of psychology, BTW, but I am a student of Creative Writing and\nLinguistics, so literary analysis _is_ my forte. Also, if the implications\nI see are improper, please let me know.\nI'm here because I'm not sequestered in my own little atheist cubbyhole as\nyou seem to think atheists should be. Did it occur to you that I _don't_\nthink I know everything and that maybe someone will say something that\nwill change my life? Have you read my other posts here or did you see\n\"atheist\" and decide it was time to poke at someone who doesn't deserve\nyour respect?\nAw, geez. I'm sorry, I probably am getting my back up a little too high,\nhere. It's just that the \"nonsense\" thing really annoys me. I figure you\nshould see my first reactions, though, since they are my true reactions to\nyour question.\nNow, the smoothed feather version:\nI seek all sorts of knowledge. That's why I came to my university. Yes, I\nam looking at your religion (well, sorta, I have no idea what *kind* of\nChristian you are) from the outside, and hopefully with an objective view.\nI've been trying to ask reasoned questions here, because I genuinely don't\nknow the answers to them, but when I saw the question directed at atheists\nI figured I would answer. After all, you can speculate about atheist\nmotives here all you want (hence the \"amatuer\" psychology crack), but\nwithout an atheist, you can't be sure of even one atheist's motive.       \nI'm hoping people really\nwant to know and I was trying to show that I actually checked out several\nreligions and I actually read all the pamphlets people have to offer and I\nactually think about these things. Instead, I'm still faced with the\nimplication that atheism is some kind of aberration and that only \"broken\"\npeople are atheist.\n\tTry it from the flip side: I posit that atheism is the natural\nstate and only broken people are theists. I offer as proof that so many\npeople witness from horrible lives which picked up as soon as they \ndiscovered their religion, that religion is regional (if people didn't\nfollow the religion of their areas, there would be a more homogenous\nmix), so many terrorists claim theistic motives, and that theists tend\nto be so pushy and angry when challenged on alt.atheism. Why are religions\nso successful? Because there is so much suffering in the world, which \n\"breaks\" people.\nIt's an uncomfortable situation whichever way you look at it, which is another\nreason I'm here, to try to see the flip side of my thinking (and also as \na watchdog for logical fallacies :).\n                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\nThe implication here being that atheists can't possibly know anything\nabout Christianity. Probably jumping at shadows again, but I think my\nreaction is somewhat justified. After all, the first post suggested that\natheists are \"broken\", hostile people. This post confirms that someone\nelse believes it. \n\n                                             ^^^^^^^^^^\n\nWell, he got me there. I am a strong atheist, because I feel that lack of\nevidence, especially about something like an omnipotent being, implies\nlack of existence. However, I haven't met the strong atheist yet who said\nthat nothing could ever persuade him. Call me a \"seeker\" if you like, I\ndon't. \n_Weak_ atheism is being ignore here, though. Some atheists simply say \"I\ndon't believe in any god\" rather than my position: \"I believe that no\ngod(s) exist.\" For the weak atheist, the is no atheism to disbelieve,\nbecause they don't actively believe in atheism. (If you think this is\nconfusing, try figuring out the difference between Protestants and\nMethodists from an atheist point of view :).\nThis is another fallacy many theists seem to have, that everyone believes in\nsomething (followed up by \"everyone has faith in something\"). Guess what?\nMy atheism ends the moment I'm shown a proof of some god's existence. Is\nthat really too much to ask?\n\n\n\nWell, I guess you won't succeed in converting him or me. Why the\nsupposition that you will fail to convince him? (amatuer psycology on) Is\nit because you yourself are unconvinced? :) \n\nAnd I told you that I find faith to be intellectually dishonest. Note that\nI can only speak for myself. If you find faith to be honest, show me how.\nI have been unable to reconcile it so far. Maybe that's how I'm \"broken\"?\nI tell you that I have invisible fairies living in my garden and that\nyou should just take my word for it. If you accept that, you are of a\nfundamentally different mind than I and I really would like to know how you\nthink. All I ask for is proof of the assertion \"God exists\". Logical or\nphysical proofs only, please. Then we'll discuss the nature of \"God\".\n\nPrayer?! Uh, oh, we'll have to revoke his atheist club card and beanie! :)\n\n\nGood luck to you, as well. And, again, I apologize if the inferences I\nmade were inaccurate. \n\n\nMuppets and garlic toast forever,\nMax (Bob) Muir\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nAnd this results in a fire that starts in one room and torches the entire place\nbefore anyone in the adjacent rooms can escape?  I don't think so.  So much for\nthe smolder theory.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"In case anyone was wondering about upgrading their 386 or 486 class machine\nwithout spending a lot of money, I looked into replacing the processor\non those machines and here are the facts (as I understand them).\n\nIf you have a PS\/2 Model 70 or Model 80, you can replace the i386 chip with\neither 1) a Cyrix 486DLC chip for $130 which will increase your processing\npower by about 60% for normal fuctions, and not at all for math functions.\nThis chip will only run at your original clock speed, ie. if you have a 16MHz\nmachine the Cyrix 486DLC will run at 16MHz.\nnote: Windows does not use the math functions, so it is a good upgrade if\nyou are running Windows.\nOr, 2) you can get a Kingston 486\/NOW platform for $450 with a 25MHz i486SX\non it which will increase your normal processing power by about 100%, if you\nwere running at 25MHz originally. But again it will not increase the speed\nof your math fuctions.  I think that it will continue to run at 25MHz even\nif your original processor runs at a slower speed.\nThere is also 3) the Kingston 486\/NOW platform for $750 with a 33MHz i486DX\non it.  This might speed up your math functions as well, but I am not sure.\n\nIf you have a PS\/2 Model 70 B21 or other PS\/2 machine with either an i486SX\nor a non-clock doubling i486DX (ie. it runs at either 25 or 33MHz) in it,\nthen you can get an Intel Overdrive chip (which is really an i486DX2 chip) and\nreplace your chip with it.  You should get about 95% better preformance for\nboth normal and math functions.  The 25\/50 Mhz version of the Overdrive chip\ncosts $450 and the 33\/66MHz version costs $700.  The replacement for the\n25MHz 486SX chip is an espeacially good deal as it provides the math\ncoprocessor which the 486SX does not have.  Note that the speed ratings on the\nOverdrive chips are the maximum speed at which they can run.  If you have a\n20MHz 486SX, then the Overdrive chip will run at 20\/40MHz, ie. 20MHz externally\nand 40MHz internally.  There is no reason to buy an Overdrive chip which is\nrated at faster then your machine, you will not get faster performance.\n\nYou should be able to buy these chips from any of the microchip merchants that\nadvertise at the back of PC Magazine or PC Week.  You might want to shop\naround as prices do vary.  If you need a name\/phone number for a source for\na particular chip, e-mail me, and I will respond with a couple of sources.\n\nLawrence Khoo\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Please Help if you can. Whenever I try to run windows useing the 16\nmillion color mode with the drivers supplyed with my Diamond Stelth 24x\nIt will lock up requireing a full system reset to break out. The drivers\nthat I have for windows are V.1.00 for windows 3.1 (which IS the version\nof windows I am useing)\n\nMy Setup\n---------\n386DX40 128KCach\n4 Megs of ram\n14\" SVGA touch Monitor non-interlaced\nAMI Bios\n\nAny and all help would be apreciated, The card seems to work fine in other\nmodes, I usually run windows in 800x600 mode and probs at all, so I am\nhopeing it is a driver and not a card problem.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I would like to hear from people who are thinking of going to the Urbana 93\nconference in December this year.  I have recently received info from IFES\n(International Fellowship of Evangelical Students) and am thinking about\nattending although I am still not sure whether I can afford it.\n\nI would also like to hear from people involved in IFES or IVF groups just to\nhear how things are going on your campus.\nAre there any news groups or groups of people who already do this.\n\nI am involved in the Christian Fellowship at the University of Technology\nSydney in Australia.  If you are interested to find out how we are going \nmail me to find out.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"The subject says it all. I'm wondering if anyone on the net has\nhad any experiences with Cornell Computer Systems of California.\nI was checking out their ad in Computer Shopper, and they seem to\nhave a good balance between service, price, and hardware. The question\nis -- are they reliable?\n\nE-mail responses would be appreciated.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nIt works for me.  I've run Motif 1.1.3,1.1.4,1.1.5,1.2,1.2.1, and 1.2.2 on\nan X11R5 server with MotifBC defined.\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I have some articles available on the Church and gay people, from\na pro-gay viewpoint, which might interest some of the people \nparticipating in this thread.  Please email me if you would like\nto have me send them to you (warning, about 70k worth of material.\nMake sure you have mailbox and\/or disk space available.)\n\nThere are no short answers to the questions we've been seeing here\n(\"how do you explain these verses?\", \"How do you justify your actions?\")\nIf you've been asking and you really want an idea of the other people's\nthinking, I encourage you to do some serious reading.  \n-- \n\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I have ordered many times from Competition accesories and ussually\nget 2-3 day delivery.  Once they had to backorder something, but they\nsent me a card to say it would be two weeks.  Came in 10 days or so.\n\nAlways be satisfied, with CA and in life.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nIs this not the same movie that sold at McDonald's for $7.99??\n (new)?\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nBut the sperm would be very diluted in a \"x\" gallon swimming pool   ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"We were at a dealership today looking at buying a car and\nthe salesman was showing us something he was calling a\n\"buy back\".  Is that a car that was fleeted and then\ngiven back for the new model the next year?  If that\nis so, how many miles is a good number to have on it\nand are these types of cars generally a good buy?","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"People *die* of natural causes, too.  We hear all this bellyaching over\nthings like murder and war while Mother Nature is killing people all of\nthe time.\n\nIn fact, more people die of natural causes than due to the conscious\nactions of other people.  So, what's a few murders here and there?\n\n\n-- ","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":" \n\n[Note: This is a repost of my earlier response to Mr. Starr,\nwhich was not properly formatted.  Apologies to those who've\nseen the following before:]\n\nTo explain my position on the \"War On Drugs,\" I offer this:\n\nDrugs And Crime: A New Approach\n\nby Ken Barnes\n\n\nGiven that:\n\n1. The trade in illegal drugs is responsible for \nmuch of the crime which afflicts our nation.\n\n2. People who want drugs (particularly people who \nare predisposed to addiction) will find a way to get \nthem, whether or not they are legally available.\n\n3. Despite current law enforcement efforts, drugs \nare readily available to those who want them.\n\n4. Addiction to drugs, both legal and illegal, is \nresponsible for a significant drain on the productive \nresources of our country, and this occurs in a variety \nof ways, from the cocaine-addicted babies who are \nunable to learn, to the spread of disease among \naddicts, to the tragic consequences of alcohol abuse \nand tobacco smoking.\n\n5. A general economic principle of government is \nthat whatever is subsidized you get more of, and \nwhatever is taxed you get less of.  To be most \neffective in confronting the nation's drug problem, \nsome way must be found to utilize these additional \npowers of government to make drug dealing and drug use \nless attractive.\n\nWhile this country's current efforts to combat \nlegal drugs have succeeded in some respects, (there is \na greater awareness of the health consequences of \nsmoking, and designated-driver programs have helped \nreduce drunk driving, for example), the same cannot be \nsaid for the \"war\" on illegal drugs.  There remains a \ncore group of illegal drug users which support \ninternational networks of smugglers, pushers, growers, \nprocessors, kingpins, and gangsters.  These networks \nand their \"marketing activities,\" which include drive-\nby shootings, corrupting law enforcement authorities, \nand smuggling weapons, are directly or indirectly \nresponsible for a large proportion of the crimes \ncommitted in our country every day.\n\nClearly, illegal drugs and rising crime are \nlinked.  It takes only a moment's reflection to \nrecognize how they are linked.  The link is money.  As \nwith this country's failed effort to prohibit alcohol \nconsumption, a black market has been created, in which \ngreedy local monopolies, like the gangsters of a \nbygone era, have profited enormously from their \nillegal trade.  The victims of this trade include not \nonly the innocent people unfortunate enough to be \ncaught in the crossfire, but, I would argue, the drug \nusers themselves.\n\nWere it not for the black market, and the violent \nmonopoly of the drug lords, drug users might not be \nthe thieves, robbers, prostitutes and murderers they \nhave become in order to pay the high prices the drug \nlords demand.  In the absence of the drug lords, most  \nwould be, I believe, simply people with a problem, \neither a moral problem_or_a medical problem, but_not_a \ncriminal problem.\n\nLet me be clear however, I am_not_advocating that \nwe let the criminals who have been preying on our \nsociety for these many years of Prohibition off the \nhook.  On the contrary, the new approach I advocate is \none which would not result in either the government or \nprivate industry getting into the business of \npromoting crack cocaine, or any other presently \nillegal drug for that matter.  Neither is it an \napproach which sees law abiding citizens handing over \nmore and more of their freedom and privacy in an \neffort to track down illegal drug users, until \"the \nland of the free and the home of the brave\" looks like \na police state.\n\nHere then is my proposal:\n\n1. Possession and use of all presently illegal \ndrugs is decriminalized, but buying and selling them \nremains illegal.  'Potheads' can grow their own \nmarijuana (as many already do today), other drug users \ncan legally import their poison of choice as long as \nthey pay the tariffs, and a barter economy of drug \nexperimenters develops.\n\n2. Because of the barter economy which supplies \nthe drug users, the black market profits that have so \nenriched the drug lords dwindle.  If these drugs can \nbe obtained for 'free' or next to nothing, why buy \nthem?  Nevertheless, there will be those who will seek \nto sell these \"noncommercial\" drugs even at relatively \nlow prices.  Therefore,\n\n3. Law enforcement activity is concentrated on \nthose individuals who continue to buy and sell, and \nalso on the crimes committed by drug users too poor to \nafford even low prices.  But here is where the \nstrategy begins to differentiate between the drug \ndealers, the victimizers, and the drug users, their \nvictims.\n\n4. Upon arrest for_any_crime,_suspects are \npermitted to choose whether or not they will undergo a \ndrug test.  Those who choose to cooperate are informed \nthat upon conviction for the crime they are accused \nof, if they are found to be a drug user, they will be \ninstitutionalized until they are clean, and only then \nwill they begin to serve their sentence.  If they \nchoose to cooperate and are already drug-free, they \ncan begin to serve their sentence right away.  Those \nwho choose not to undergo the drug test and are \nconvicted face stiffer fines and serve longer \nsentences.\n\n5. Institutionalization of drug using criminals \nserves several purposes:\n\nDrug using criminals (and this includes drunk \nand\/or 'stoned' drivers) are separated from their \nsources of supply, thus reducing the total number of \ndrug users in society at large, and consequently \ndecreasing the demand for drugs on the street, putting \nmore of the remaining drug dealers out of business.\n\nInstitutionalization provides an incentive for \ndrug using criminals to straighten themselves out, \nbefore becoming part of the general prison population.\n\nWhile helping protect society from crime, \ninstitutionalization could also serve to deter drug \nusers from becoming criminals, since drug using \ncriminals, unlike other criminals, would be delayed \nprior to serving their sentences by the additional \ntime it takes for them to sober up.\n\nInstitutionalization of drug using criminals \nseparate from the general prison population would also \nprovide a closely monitored pool of addicts who could \nvolunteer for research studies of new techniques and \ntreatments for addictive disease, with the potential \nto benefit both themselves and others.\n\n6. Dealers in illegal drugs are generally not \ndrug users themselves, and this is particularly true \nof the drug bosses or kingpins running large illicit \norganizations.  Under this proposal, dealers would be \nmore readily identifiable, since upon arrest they \nwould presumably pass the drug test, or else decline \nto take it in order to avoid having to explain why \nthey are in possession of drugs when it is apparent \nthey do not use them.  Declining to take the test, \nthey would of course face stiffer penalties.  While \neach case of attempted sale of a noncommercial drug \nwould have to stand on own its merits, the outcome of \na suspect's drug test could provide additional \nevidence for the prosecution.\n\n7. Just as cigarette taxes have contributed to \nthe decline of smoking in our country by making \ncigarettes more costly while at the same time \nproviding revenue for anti-smoking campaigns, \nnoncommercial drugs should be taxed, and the money \ngenerated should be used to combat their use.  \nEnforcement of this tax should be on a voluntary basis \nhowever, and should not be used as an excuse to \ninfringe on the rights and privacy of noncommercial \ndrug users, since to do so would have the effect of \nreintroducing Prohibition.\n\nInstead, drug users will be encouraged to pay the \ntax by reminding them that if untaxed drugs are ever \nfound in their possession during the course of routine \npolice operations, they will be required to pay the \ntax immediately or else forfeit their untaxed drugs to \nbe destroyed.  If drug dealers are found to be selling \nnoncommercial drugs on which taxes have not been paid, \nthey will face additional prosecution for evading the \ntax.  The strategy of adding tax evasion to drug \ndealing charges is already in use in some \njurisdictions, but its effectiveness is currently \nlimited by the illegality of drug possession.\n\nRevenue from drug possession taxes and import \ntariffs would be used to fund anti-drug advertising \ncampaigns, and provide support to private sector drug \ntreatment programs for those unable to afford \ntreatment.\n\n8. Taxpayer subsidies to all drug producers must \nbe ended.  Federal support of tobacco farming is both \nimmoral and wasteful in this era of tight budgets, and \nthe marijuana crops grown illicitly on federal lands \nin many states must likewise be eliminated.\n\nWhile my proposal would have the effect of \npermitting the use of what are now illegal drugs, it \nwould hold the users of all drugs responsible for \ntheir actions, and I believe, would reduce the harm \ndrugs have on our society, particularly the crime \ncaused by the illegal drug trade.  So long as we \nremain a free nation, with relatively porous borders, \nand freedom for our citizens to travel, we will always \nhave a drug problem.  Whether it takes the form of \nheroin addicts dying in abandoned buildings, drunk \ndrivers killing and maiming others on our streets, or \nemphysema patients struggling for breath after a \nlifetime of smoking, the results are the same: \nneedless suffering and death.  As a society we must \nrecognize that while our society permits us to harm \nourselves with drugs, as we are already doing \n(regardless of the drug laws), we must take a stand \nagainst the harm that drugs and drug users cause to \nothers.  We must particularly oppose the vicious and \nviolent cartels which prey on the weakness of drug \nusers.  By taking the profits out of their deadly \ntrade, my proposal goes a long way towards shutting \ndown these powerful criminal organizations.\n\nThe question of whether drug use is a moral or \nmedical problem depends on which group of drug users \nyou're talking about.  Different drugs have different \neffects, and some are more addictive than others.  The \naddictiveness of a drug also often varies between \nindividuals, and so we have some people who can drink \nalcohol in moderation, while others find they cannot \nresist the bottle.  Nicotine, which former Surgeon \nGeneral C. Everett Koop declared to be as addicting as \nheroin, is a legal drug with known harmful effects, \nand while some people can stop smoking by willpower \nalone, others continue to smoke even after treatment \nfor lung cancer.\n\nFor those individuals who can stop taking drugs \non their own, we may argue that because they have \nchosen to use them, this represents a moral failure on \ntheir part, or an unwillingness to face the \ndifficulties of life.  But for the addicts, while they \nmay have chosen to use drugs the first time, by the \ntime they discover their addiction it is too late.  We \ncannot hold them responsible for their disease, any \nmore than we would blame someone who is drowning for \nan inability to swim.  Perhaps they should have known \nnot to go near the water, or perhaps someone should \nhave warned them of the danger, but in their present \ncircumstances warnings will not help.  Neither does it \nhelp for the drug dealers on the shore to be tossing \nthem weights. \n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Save youself the cash.  Take it from a BMW mechanic.  Idiot lights are for just that.  Buy yourself a ballpoint pen and write it down yourself.  Change your oil every 3000 mi. and you will be just fine.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nHow about some sources for all these numbers? Or is this more stuff that\n\"everybody knows\"?","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nI'm familiar with the telethon situation (an individual on CompuServe\nwas also victimized and was equally pissed).  That was a local\ntelevision station contract which could not be broken.  For that item,\nI strongly suggest you call that affiliate and vent your anger on\nthem.  (Supposedly one station had told my friend that they have\nreceived hundreds of angry calls which will translate into far less\nincentive to pre-empt hockey telecasts in future.  The contract was\nwritten when the pathetic WLAF was in that time slot.)","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Laser printers often emit ozone (which smells sort of like Clorox).\nAdequate ventilation is recommended.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"agents\nof\n\nThe original poster did not say why his mother had been in hospital\nbut I can answer a few general points.\n\nElderly patients may exhibit a marked difficulty in coping after\nbeing in hospital for a few days. The drastic change of environment\nwill often unmask how marginally they have been coping at home. Even\nyoung people find the change unsettling.\n\nThough we have thought that this decrement in function after - say -\nanaesthesia and surgery for a fractured hip (a common event in the\nelderly) was due to anaesthesia there is good evidence that the\nchange of situation is much more important. Some hospitals have\ntried a 'rapid transit' system for hip fractures, aiming to have the\npatient back at home within 24 hours of admission. The selection of\nthe anaesthetic has no effect on the ability to discharge these\npatients early.\n\nAnaesthetists who work with the elderly (which is almost all of us)\ngenerally take care to tailor the choice and dose of drugs used to\nthe individual patient. Even so, there is some evidence that full\nmental recovery may take a surprisingly long time to return. This is\nthe sort of thing which is detected by setting quite difficult\ntasks, not the gross change that the original poster noted.\n\nHaloperidol (Haldol TM) is a long acting drug. The plasma half life\nof the drug is up to 35 hours. If the decanoate (a sort of slow\nrelease formulation) is used it may be weeks. The elderly are\nsensitive to haloperidol for a number of reasons. Without knowing\nmore it is hard to comment.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Hi folks,\n\nI'm doing an animated film on new methodes in loom\nresearch (You know, the thing they make cloth with.)\nand need a model of a loom. The format should be \nin ascii faceted geometry and fairly straight\nforward to figure out. Any help or pointers would be\ngreatly appreciated.\n\n-Thanks\n\nRick Boykin\n\n~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\n    Rick Boykin (rboykin@cscsparc.larc.nasa.gov)\n    Computer Sciences Corporation, Hampton, VA.\n\n    \"So maybe I could be a fly\n     and feed arachnid as I die\"     -Tom Marshall","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"     writes...\n\n\n\n\nOh, probably.\n\nMs. Nichols has given the average game times (and average runs scored) for\n1983 and 1992.  (A very nice piece of information, Ms. Nichols.  Who knows?\nShe may be listening, and not have me in her kill file after all.)  Those\nnumbers indicate somewhere in the neighborhood of half-a-run *less* being\nscored per game, and the games taking 15 minutes *longer*.  Something is\nbeing done now that wasn't done ten years ago, which is extending the games\nby 15 minutes.  Ms. Nichols thinks it's more pitches.  Given the increasing\nspecialization of pitchers, it wouldn't surprise me.\n\nIf it's not simply more pitches, though, I don't think it's unreasonable\nto think that something can be done to get ten of those minutes back.  Then\nI get a couple more from shortening the warmup time for a relief pitcher\nafter he comes in, and a couple more still from enforcing existing rules,\nwhich have been stated in other posts in this thread (and other related ones).\n\nThe problem is, who decides whether that time is \"wasted?\"  You don't seem\nto think it is at all.  Right now, I think it is, although I have heard one\ncase favoring giving the reliever all the warmups he thinks he needs (the\ndifference in mounds between the field and pen) -- but who knows?  If the\nrules get changed, maybe something I didn't foresee will happen to change my\nmind.  But you can bet a lot of minds would fail to foresee the same thing,\nor else nothing will be changed.\n\nRG","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nWhen it's too windy to stand.\n\nWhen you're on the road in high winds, stay alert.  Even more alert\nthan your \"alert 'cause you're on a motorcycle and they're out to kill\nyou\" kind of alert.  Be aware of the terrain, and how it may funnel\nwind in sudden gusts (well, not gusts to somebody standing there, but\nit's gusty 'cause you ride through it).  If you are riding in a steady\ncrosswind, be aware of a hill that will block the wind, and adjust your\nlean angle.  Be aware of passing trucks to your windward side, your\nlean angle will change dramatically both as you enter and as you leave\ntheir turbulance cone.  Reducing your profile may help, ie, lean on the\ngas tank and kiss the triple clamp.  Keep a nimble hand on the\nsteering, be ready to countersteer into and out of sudden wind bursts.\nKeep a larger than usual buffer zone, both ahead and behind, and to the\nside, you can easily be blown half a lane over before you can react by\ncountersteering.  Keep a close eye on traffic in your mirror, if\nsomeone is coming up wanting to pass, get out of their way early.  Stop\noften for short brakes, extensive riding in high winds is both mentally\nand physically fatiguing.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Has anyone successfully programmed this beast using the bootloader pgm\nwith the circuit described in `the little green handbook, pg 9-1`?\n\nDan.\n--\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\nAdrian Blockley                    ! I may say something profound   \nEnvironmental science              ! here one day.                  \nMurdoch University                 !                          \nWestern Australia, 6153            !                               \nblockley@essun1.murdoch.edu.au     !                                \nphone 09-360 2737                  !","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"If ESPN pisses you off, call them - they do respond to calls. Last night I\ncalled when they said they were cutting to baseball and we couldn't see the\nsudden-death overtime for the BUffalo game. Apparently they received enough\ncalls so they waited for the overtime to finish before cutting away.\n\nTheir phone number is 203-585-2000","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n\n-- That means that there cannot be any atheists  since there is NO WAY that you\ncan prove that there is no god. Atheists are people who BELIEVE that there is no\ngod, most not only believe, but also are damn sure that there isn't a god (like\nme).\n\n  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n     The Cursor, aka Nick Humphries, u2nmh@csc.liv.ac.uk, at your service.\n  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n   \"What's the use of computers? They'll never play  | \"Why pay money to see\n   chess, draw art or make music.\" - Jean Genet.     | bad films? Stay home \n   \"Intelligence isn't to make no mistakes, but how  | and see bad TV for\n   to make them look good.\" - Bertolt Brecht.        | free.\" - Sam Goldwyn.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nI see no other way of interpreting them other than homosexuyality\nbeing wrong.  Please tell me how these verses can be interpreted in\nany other way.  I read them and the surrounding text.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Maybe you had accidentally sealed in some water?  I cleaned my chain\nthoroughly, took it on a short ride to dry it off and heat it up\na bit, and the paraffin sank deep into the rollers and formed a good\nseal on the outside.  No rust, but then again I live in Tucson!","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nThat's pretty good.\n\nA friend had an Audi that he named Murphy.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nHow about the name and number of the pin place.  I would think that 115\nor so people calling to bitch about why orders placed after ours are getting\ndone first might speed things along.\n\nDean","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Does any one know where I can get a telecaption decoder module?\n\nNeed it to build a close caption decoder.\nThanks.\n\nWayne\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I'm looking for any and all information regarding packet radio\nimplementation on the PC.  Software, hardware, whatever.\n\nPlease e-mail any info to koberg@spot.colorado.edu.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nThank you.  I now know at least that though I may be on drugs, at\nleast I'm not the only one.\n\n\nYes, this took some getting used to -- of course not having an Indian\nconnection, no knowledge of hindi, etc., this was not trivial for me.\nI did have, thanks to the wonders of the net, \"A Glossary to *Satanic\nVerses*\", posted to rec.arts.books by Vijay Raghavan, which explains a\nlot of the Indian English constructions, Indian culture references,\neven the Islamic references (\"Jahilia\", \"Submission\", the context of\nthe Satanic Verses incident, etc.) -- what I have only covers the\nfirst couple of hundred pages, but it helped me get into the flow of\nthe novel [I can mail this to anyone interested; if anyone has\nportions after part I, if they exist, I'd like to get those].","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nWell, we already suffer from street hoardings.  If you don't\nwatch TV, you are free of commercials there, but if you want\nto go from A to B you cannot escape beer ads.\n\n\nI think the right time to stop this proposal is now.\n\nIf this idea goes through, it's the thin end of the wedge.  Soon\ncompanies will be doing larger, and more permanant, billboards in the\nsky.  I wouldn't want a world a few decades from now when the sky\nlooks like Las Vegas.  That would _really_ make me sad.\n\nCoca Cola company will want to paint the moon red and white.  (Well,\nif not this moon, then a moon of Jupiter).  Microscum will want to\nname a galaxy `Microscum Galaxy'.  Where do we draw the line?\nHistorically mankind is not very good at drawing fine lines.\n\nI'm normally extremely enthusiastic about all forms of resource\nallocation for space research; I think it's the most important\ninvestment possible for mankind in the long run.  But this is not\nthe way to get the money.\n\n        -ans.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\nWe're having to associate with you against our will.  This is fascism! \n\nYou don't have to associate with anyone against your will.  Go live in a\ncave.  We won't miss you.\n\nDrewcifer\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nPlaymation is available direct from Anjon & Associates for $299.  It's hard\nto beat that price.  Also, you'd be better off with a newer version than\nan older version that had bugs that have long since been clobbered.  \n\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nThat's fascinating.   I heard that the Chinese, rather than\nthe Italians, invented pasta.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
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{"text":"\nI would like to know as well, since I just bought a 200MB Seagate IDE\ndrive and want to add it to my computer (a four-year-old Gateway\n386\/20), which currently has an 80MB Seagate SCSI drive.  The SCSI\ncontroller is such that the docs told me not to specify it in the CMOS\nsetup, i.e. both hard drive settings are listed as \"Not installed,\"\nand apparently the SCSI controller works its wonders.  I wondering if\nthis is a problem.  Also, I remember how, when I helped my cousin\ninstall his second IDE drive, we had to define a master\/slave\nrelationship for them; do I need to do something similar here?\n\n\nSame here.\n\nAny help would be appreciated, since I intend to install this drive\nASAP; I'd like to know what to do (and what not to do) before I start.\nThanks!\n-- ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"# # \tActually, I was rather surprised to see an article on this subject\n# # (i.e. the \"new, inproved\" survey saying that roughly 1% of men are gay)\n# # on the front page of The New York _Times_ recently (I think it was\n# # on Thurs, 15 April).  The headline was something to the effect of \n# # \"New Survey Finds 1% of Men Are Gay\"\n# \n# Does anyone else see the difference between \"1% of Men Are Gay\" and 1%\n# of Men surveyed *say* they are gay?  Does the NY Times think that\n# there is no one \"in the closet\"?\n\nI see.  When survey after survey show 1-4%, we are supposed to believe\nONE survey, done with very poor assumptions, with a very atypical\npopulation, 40 years ago when the society was FAR more repressed about\nhomosexuality than it is now.  Yeah, right.\n\n# Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Has anybody ever heard of Hawk EISA\/VLB motherboards?  NET Computers\nInternational (from Computer Shopper) has the 486\/33 version w\/256k\ncache for $559.  I'm trying to decide between this motherboard and the\nNICE motherboard.  Thanks!\n\n  PS:  The Hawk motherboard has 3 EISA slots, two of which are VLB.  The\nspec sounds identical to the Nice.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nWhat string did you use to do this?","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"[...stuff deleted...]\n\nThank you.  I thought I was in the twilight zone for a moment.\nIt still amazes me that many people with science backgrounds \nstill confuse the models and observables with what even they\nwould call the real world.\n\n-jim halat\n\n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n                                                                             \n\n\n\n\n\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n   I assume that can only be guessed at by the assumed energy of the\n   event and the 1\/r^2 law.  So, if the 1\/r^2 law is incorrect (assume\n   some unknown material [dark matter??] inhibits Gamma Ray propagation),\n   could it be possible that we are actually seeing much less energetic\n   events happening much closer to us?  The even distribution could\n   be caused by the characteristic propagation distance of gamma rays \n   being shorter then 1\/2 the thickness of the disk of the galaxy.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"21 Apr 1993 10:28:02 Gillian E Runcie Writes:\n\n\nDear Gillian\n\nThat is such a wickedly cool idea; why didn't I think of it??? However, here\nin Canada the aerials (antenna) are usually near the driver or passenger areas\nand I would surely be seen......but I'll give it a try anyway.\n\nThanks for the first truely useable piece of information I have heard in a long\ntime (and you are by no means a mere female, as this way at getting back takes\nreal guts to do).","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Recently we have found TIFF manipulation packages which do not recognize\nTIFF files output by xv.  This is due to a missing XRESOLUTION and YRESOLUTION\ntag which apparently is required (or at least believed to be required) for\nvalid TIFF.  I have checked both xv 2.x and xv 3.x and neither of these\ndo indeed copy these tags.\n\nHas anyone out there hacked in the fixes for xv to support these tags?\nI have been told that I could find some code in tiff\/tools\/tiffcp.c, but\nthat directory is one of many of the tiff group not distributed with xv.  I\nhope to obtain the original tiff src and look at it, but would prefer\nto find code already known to work in xv.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nWhile the 64K limit may not be _necessary_ limitation, they probably fall\nwithin the category of 'reasonable' limitations.  If you find yourself\ntrying to allocate an edit control for more than 64K of text, it's probably\ntime take a good look at your program's design.\n\n\nIn what way is 8192 a 'small' number?  It seems to me that you'd hit the\nwall in many other ways before you'd hit the systemwide limit on global\nhandles, unless, of course, you're abusing GlobalAlloc.\n\n\nAnd _please_ don't try to tell me that it's impossible to abuse the\nresources available under other operating systems.  All systems have\nlimits.  The question is whether or not the limits are _reasonable_.  So\nfar, you haven't offered a single argument which suggests that Windows'\nlimits are any less reasonable than limits in other systems.\n\n\n-- \nRick Schaut\nUUCP:...{uunet | uw-beaver}!microsoft!richs","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nFrom the Pluto Fast Flyby Instrument definition research anouncemnet,\nthe instrument payload constraints are:\n    Mass allocation -  7 kilograms (15.4 lbs)\n    Power allocation - 6 watts\n    Required instruments:\n\tVisible imaging system (1024x1024 CCD, 750 mm fl, f\/10 optics)\n\tIR mapping spectrometer (256x256 HgCdTe array, 0.3% energy resolution)\n\tUV spectrometer (55-200 nm, 0.5 nm resolution)\n\tRadio science (ultrastable oscilator incorporated in telecom system)\n\t\tultrastable means 10^-14.\n\nThis doesn't leave much room for payloads which are totally unrelated\nto the  mission of the spacecraft.  In addition, the power will come\nfrom a radioisotope thermal generator, and the whole space craft will\nbe about 2 feet in diameter, with no booms, which means there will be\nstrong gamma-lines from Pu-239 and associated schmutz in the\nbackground, which tends to reduce sensitivity somewhat.\n\nIt would still be nice, and our group here at Goddard is looking\nin to it.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nNah, let's reserve rec.sports.idiots for people who POST\nobvious flamebait, like yourself.\n\nIf someone posts something as controversial (not to mention\nidiotic) as what Austin posted in a widely accessed newsgroup,\nsomeone should challenge the statement.  There is a school\nof thought that suggests that silence = consent.  Whereas\nthis idea may not apply to everything in life, it certainly\nSHOULD apply to a forum of public discussion, which r.s.b.\nis.\n\nIf you've been reading r.s.b. lately, you'll find\nthat even elementary school children have had access\nto our postings, alibet in an edited form.  It's making me\nthink a little more carefully about some of the things I post.\n\nIn conclusion, if someone like Austin wants to post his drivel\nin some obscure newsgroup that I don't read, fine.  He's got the\nright to rant, rave, and drool all he wants to in the name\nof free speech.  But if he drools in a newsgroup that I read,\nthen I will support the right of anyone to provide rebuttal\nto his drooling.\n\nNow, of course, you don't have to read any of this.\nAnd if you want to cut down on flames, then\n\n\n\n\nDON'T POST FLAMEBAIT!\n(You don't have to respond to flames, either.  Saves cyberspace)\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I am looking for a text\/reference that will include pinouts, \ndescription, and functionality for just about any IC made.\nDoes such a text exist?  Are there docs on the Internet that\nreference IC's?  It would be a great idea if each major\nIC manufacturer made available to the public an anonymous\nFTP site with all it's data books in the form of text files.\n(ala RFC style).  This would save time and money for the\nIC manufacturer since a text file costs nothing to send\naround the world via internet and since most users of\nIC's\nare found in the internet anyway.  \n\nAre there any books available for purchase that reference\n(as many as possible)?  Or am I going to be stuck obtaining\na zillion databooks from the manufacturers (those little\nphonebook-type books that are obsoleted every couple years)","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n   As opposed to Universal or Catholic or \"FourSquare Gosple\". I think that\n   the Greek Orthodox Church would take high offense at your misuse of the\n   word. Your version of Christianity is neither mainstream nor bible derived\n   you make claims of bible-centricity that are not derivable soley from the\n   Bible.  About six-seven months ago, you claimed that your primary objection\n   to the LDS was that \"our\" doctrine was not bible-derived, And now this\n   (and other) claims can be shown, are also not bible interpeting bible.\n\n\n \n\tSimple truths... oh for example?   \n\n\n\n       \"paradise exalted to heaven\"\n\n\tparadise wasn't equal to heaven and _now_ it is? Yet you claim that\n \tpeeple can not be exalted to heaven, nicht wahr?\n\n\n\tWhen I read the story, I found that  \"Abraham's Bosom\" wasn't so much\n\ta place, but somewhere the rich man could see and talk to Abraham?\n\n\tGee this is fairly close to what the LDS call spirit prison, and what\n        you have called false doctrine...\n\n    [ vers deleted reproduced below quoted from the SunSpot Gopher Archive ]\n\n \n\n   This part is _not_ supported from scripture, nor does it support your\n   claim that the \"paradise\" where Christ descended was exalted.\n\n   Making such claims on this little \"evidence\" ignores the witness of the\n   scripture\n\n   Using this to argue that paradise or spirit prison, is now changed from\n   a Pre-Easter postion to post-easter by God postion is not supportable.\n \n   Makeing such a claim requires more evidence than you have given here...\n\n\n\n\n  Yes, and your reasons are in general not supported by any direct reading\n  of the scriptures. You have demonstrated that you claims to scriptural \n  \"proof\" need to be cross-checked. The referencs that you supply often do\n  not support your postion, if they are read in the context of the scripture.\n\n\n\n\tHow about that those who have been in paradise, and have accepted\n\tthe gosple will be judged of Jesus Christ, and then return to the\n\tpresence of God. Is that somehow different from your expressed view\n\tthat the paradise spoken of (or \"Abraham's Bosom\")\n\tShould we go back and discuss your view on why the Angle of the Lord\n\tis the Lord again... ;-)\n\n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Joachim Martillo writes\n\nIf you were to substitute the word \"Jew\"\/\"Jewish\" in this posting where you  \nsee the word \"Muslim\"\/\"Islamic\", switch Joachim and Mohammed's names around,  \nand then repost this, you would get a flood of messages attacking the author  \nas an anti-semite. And rightly so. The author of this crap is a racist, pure  \nand simple. He obviously has no qualms about being open with it, either,  \nunlike some other Arab- and Mulsim-bashers on the Net. \n\nNow, I for one, am not going to look at Joachim's posting and infer from it  \nthat all Jews think this way. Sure, there might be some, but this view is not  \na part of Judaism, and it is stupid to believe that all Jews' minds are this  \ntwisted. However, some Muslims might look at Joachim's flame as a  \nreaffirmation of their worst fears about Jews: that they all hate Arabs and  \nare racists.\n\nFor this reason, I am alarmed that not more Jews on the Net have spoken out  \nagainst what Joachim has said. They have the chance to possibly change the  \nanti-semitic views of some people on the net, to show them that all Jews do  \n*not* hate all Arabs and Muslims, just like all Muslims do *not* hate all  \nJews. Yet they are missing that chance. Remember, to many people, silence  \nimplies consent.\n\nPeace.\n--","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n:-)\n\nI can just imagine it.  The mother is wheeled into the labour ward.  After\ndelivery a government agent steps up to read the baby its rights...\n\t\"You have the right to remain silent.  If you give up this right anything\n\tyou say may be taken down and used in evidence against you.\"\n\n\t\"Waaaaaaaaah\"\n\n\n--\nAnthony Shipman                 \"You've got to be taught before it's too late,\nCP Software Export Pty Ltd,      Before you are six or seven or eight,\n19 Cato St., East Hawthorn,      To hate all the people your relatives hate,\nMelbourne, Australia, 3121       You've got to be carefully taught.\"  R&H","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Does anyone know of a program for the PC that\nwill take AutoCad DXF format files and convert\nthem to a raster format, like PCX, GIF, etc?\nThanks in advance....\n\t\t\t\tED\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Here's a suggestion for the logical argument FAQ.  I don't think it's covered,\nthough the fallacy probably has a better name than the one I used:  How about\nit, mathew?\n\nINCONSISTENCY AND COUNTEREXAMPLE\n\nThis occurs when one party points out that some source of information takes\nstand A, which is inconsistent with B.  There are two variations in which B is\neither a mutually-agreed-on premise or else a stand elsewhere from the same\nsource.  The second party fallaciously responds by saying \"see, the source\nreally does say B, it's right here!\"; this reply does not refute the allegation\nof inconsistency because it does not show that the source _only_ says B.\n\nExample of the first type: \"The Koran says unbelievers should be treated in\nthese ways.  We can both agree these are immoral.\"  \"The Koran clearly says in\nthis other passage that unbelievers are not to be treated that way.\"\n\nExample of the second type: \"There are two Biblical creation stories.\"  \"You're\nwrong, since the Bible clearly describes the creation as [description].\"\n--\n\"On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Leftover Turkey!\nOn the second day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Turkey Casserole\n    that she made from Leftover Turkey.\n[days 3-4 deleted] ...  Flaming Turkey Wings! ...\n   -- Pizza Hut commercial (and M*tlu\/A*gic bait)","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\nThis doesn't melt plastic, at least it hasn't melted the plastic \nbottle that I bought it in yet.  Maybe I'd better go check that\nbottle, its been sittin' awhile -:)\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n*********************************************************************\n\nThat's cool; I wish everyone had the smae kind of names; the\nworld would certainly be a better place!!\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n  This might be illegal without a very specific Presidential declaration\nor even a change in law. In general (sic), U.S. military troops are not\npermitted to be used for domestic policing operations.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n    What do you accept as a fact --  the roundness of the earth (after \nall, the ancient Greeks thought it was a sphere, and then Newton said \nit was a spheroid, and now people say it's a geoid [?])?  yourself \n(isn't your personal identity just a theoretical construct to make \nsense of memories, feelings, perceptions)?  I'm trying to think of \nanything that would be a fact for you.  Give some examples, and let's\nsee how factual they are by your criteria (BTW, what are your\ncriteria?).\n\n    \"Gravity is _not_ a fact\": is that a fact?  How about Newton's \nand Einstein's thoughts about gravity -- is it a fact that they had \nthose thoughts?  I don't see how any of the things that you are \nasserting are any more factual than things like gravity, atoms or \nevolution.\n\n    In short, before I am willing to consider your concept of what\na fact is, I'm going to have to have, as a minimum, some examples of\nwhat you think are facts.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Quite right, your batteries should be perfectly alright and retain\nmost of their charge if drained and dried well, but I'd throw out the\nelectrolyte and buy some more when you need it.\n\n\n     And before anyone says I'm wrong, remember that new batteries almost\nalways come ready charged and dry, and they are perfectly OK even after\nseveral years' storage at the shop.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"    Is there a Chicago Cubs mailing list??  If so, I'd like to join.\nAny help appreciated....\n\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nGood point, I'd overlooked that. The Eclipse has a 3 point mount, 1 at\nthe rear and 2 at the front, and it's very stable on the FJ. I have seen\nsome with harnesses that mount to the sides of the tank, and that would\nbe a real problem on the FJ.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nA person I know, belonging to a research lab of a rivate\ncompany, claimed to me during a priavte conversation that, given the\nequipment in his lab, he could crack a Kerberos ticket in 15 minutes to\nan hour. He had access to rather powerful DES hardware, but not of an\nextraordinare kind, I believe. The attack was possible because of the\namount of known plaintext in the ticket, which itself constitutes a small\nmessage. This was two years ago.\nDES is no longer usable for encryption of really sensitive data. For a\nlot of purposes, however, it is still very adequate.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nAnd it is not Hirschbeck's job to help Gant with any of these difficulties.\nIf Gant can't gather his concentration for whatever reason, that just makes\nhim all the more meat in the batter's box.  The umpire's job is to \nmaintain flow of play.  Gant is not entitled to time to regather his\nfaculties.\n\nNor is anyone else.\n\n\nAbsolutely.  I think it'd be more accurate to say Gant was foolish.\n\n\nIf a disputed strike call is ample reason for a timeout, games would last\nabout nine-fifteen weeks, if Jack Morris or Dave \"Whiner\" Stieb were\npitching.  A disputed strike call is not sufficient for a time out.\nSuck it up, get back in the box, and never badmouth the blue.  They're\nnot going to change their mind, and you're just going to come across\nas a pinhead, which won't help you with the borderline calls.\n\nFTR - I never speak to umpires when I don't know them personally, nor\ndo I glance at them, or react to calls.  As a result, I think I get more\nthan my fair share of borderline calls at the plate, because I have a\nrep of having a good eye.  (Actually, there are a lot of negative\nconnotations that go with that rep, including copious questions about\nmy masculinity, party affiliation, and sexual preference.)\n\n\nIrrelevant.  He was wasting time THEN.\n\n\n1.  Because it's not his job.\n\n2.  Because setting the precedent of cutting slack THERE can easily \n    extend to those 3 hour games.  (Kind of like the phantom DP.)\n\n\nGant hurt himself, and the Braves disrupted the game.  Your biases are\nexposed, and I'm sitting here defending umpires and the SF Giants,\nwhich is like Phyllis Schlafly defending Gary Segura, Jack Kevorkian,\nand the Swedish Abortion Team.  \n\n\nI believe Terry said the magic word.  There are some truly quick ways\nto get tossed from a ballgame.  For a primer, email me.\n\nGood ways to get tossed from a game:\n\n1.  Ask Ken Kaiser if he got his money back from Nutri-System.\n2.  Kiss Rich Garcia on the lips, and say \"Hi, Honey, I'm Home!\"\n3.  Goose Eric Gregg.\n4.  Ask Bruce Froemming if his parents had any children that lived.\n5.  Get Naked.\n\n(Source: The Greg Spira Book of Diamond Ettiquette, as told to\n Peter Gammons.  1991, Collier Press.)\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"In Turkish Genocide Apology <9304261739@zuma.UUCP> as scribed by its servile\ndolt sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) we read a response to article <1993Apr26.\n175246.24412@colorado.edu> perlman@qso.Colorado.EDU (Eric S. Perlman) who\n\n[EP] This has been discussed before, by several people, on this net.  The\n[EP] statement is attributable either to Hajj Amin al-Husseini, former Grand\n[EP] Mufti of Jerusalem - and the leader of the Palestinian death squads\n[EP] during the 1948 war, or to one of his chief henchmen.  \n\n[(*] In Russia General Dro (the Butcher), the architect of the Turkish\n[(*] genocide in WWI, was working closely with the German Secret \n[(*] Service. He entered the war zone with his own men and acquired\n[(*] important intelligence about the Soviets. His experience with\n[(*] the Turkish genocide in x-Soviet Armenia made him an invaluable \n[(*] source for the Germans.[2]\n\nWhat a fool! For the above to be true, [which it is not] the WWI Russian\nGeneral Dro must have worked from his grave to assist x-Soviet Armenia.\nSoviet Armenia became ex-Soviet Armenia in 1991 and Dro died in 1958! Then\nDro would have to travel back in time, while dead, from 1991 to WWII to help\nNazi Germany!\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n   You might try the rec.models.rockets newsgroup.  Interesting stuff,\nsome of it should probably be classified as artillery.\n\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nMacedonia said yesterday it had neither requested or needs such\nforces.  \n\nThis is sort of like sending the National Guard to Bel Air when\nthe riot is in South Central!\n\nObviously, Clinton is again trying to make policy for image purposes\nin America rather than to try to deal with the real problem and\nassume a share of responsibility for the problem.  He obviously\ndidn't even consult with the Macedonians...he was just looking at\nthe map of the former Yugoslavia for the safest place to put \nAmerican troops so he could say to the Europeans...hey, look, we\nhave troops on the ground in the former Yugoslavia too...now let\nme bomb so I can make it look like I am doing something in the\nAmerican media. \n\nThe problem is that the blue berets in Bosnia are dead meat if\nClinton starts bombing, but Clinton doesn't have the courage to\nask that the blue berets leave, because then he becomes primarily\nresponsible to the Bosnian policy of the UN and the allies.\nClinton wants to have his cake and eat it too...he wants to feel\nfree to use American military power for the sake of domestic\nUS politics and his domestic image, but he doesn't want to assume\nthe primary international leadership role in the UN and among\nthe allies, like Bush, for all his faults, did in the Gulf War...\nbecause with leadership comes responsibility, and Clinton seems\nto want to retain the Europeans as scapegoats.\n\nClinton wants to leave the Europeans in charge and responsible,\nbut wants to freelance on the side...and if his freelancing gets\ntoo hot, he wants to be able to cut and run...the American public may\nbe easily fooled...European leaders aren't.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"While this is essentially a discussion of reincarnation in the context of\nChristianity Gerry Palo has made some comparisons to Asian religious\nbeliefs on this topic which have simplified the Asian idea of karma\nto the point of misrepresentation.\n\nThere are significant differences in the idea of karma among Hindus,\nJains, Buddhists (and even among the various Buddhist traditions.)\n\nTo refer to karma as a system of reward for past deeds is totally\nincorrect in the Buddhist and Jain traditions.  Karma is considered to\nbe a moral process in which intentions (either good or evil) shape\na person's predilections for future intention and action and\nproduce a person who is more prone to good than evil, or the opposite --\n\"reward\" has nothing to do with it.  Both Jainism and Buddhism are atheistic\nso there is no deity to dispense rewards or punishments.  Karma is usually\ndescribed in terms of seeds and reaping the fruit thereof.  In fact \"As you\nsow, so shall you reap\" is found in the Pali Canon as I recall, the metaphor\nof natural growth is explicit.\n\nHinduism, or some sects in that tradition, are I believe much more\ndeterministic and involve concepts closer to reward and punishment being\ntheistically inclined.\n\nIn point of fact, the Theravadin Buddhist tradition of Southeast Asia\nconsiders karma as only one of five influences in human life, and in\nfact from their point of view they would be unable to explain the mechanics\nof karma without the element of free will.\n\nAlso in Eastern religions there is a difference between reincarnation and\nrebirth, which is essentially absent in Western considerations.\n\nIsn't Origen usually cited as the most prestigious proponent of reincarnation\namong Christian thinkers?  What were his views, and how did he relate them\nto the Christian scriptures?","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"It was brought to my attention that there was an oversight in the SIGKids\nResearch Showcase Call for Participation and Entry Form.\n\nPlease note that the SIGKids Research Showcase is part of \nSIGGRAPH '93, August 1-6, 1993 Anaheim, California.\n\nThank you,\n\nDiane Schwartz\nSIGKids Committee Member\nInstitute for the Learning Sciences\n1890 Maple Avenue, Suite 150\nEvanston, Illinois 60201","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"  I'm interested in a center channel for my home theater. If yu have one \nand would be interested in selling one please let me know. Thanks. Prefer\nably an Infinity or Polk Audio.\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"LOOK INTO THE FUTURE\n\nDiscover what lies ahead in Love, Health and Finance\n\nSpeak LIVE with a Psychic of your choice\n\n900-446-6995 Extension 107\n\nYOU MUST BE 18 OR OVER TO CALL.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n\nHey dude you are making me paranoid! What an argument!!!\n\n\n\nNo, Frank Crary's arguments are based on the assumption that most people\nare sane, normal people. tpg disproves this of gun owners. USEnet as a whole\ndisproves it of humanity as a whole.\n\nWe now have proof positive that guns don't make you safer. Buy a lot of\nguns and you either get shot in the no knock raid or get the FBI to burn\ndown your house. See even in the paranoid mindset of tpg there are good reasons\nto support gun control.\n\n\nCuddles 'n kisses","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nRich,\n\tFirst of all you might want to join the VetteNet (vettes@chiller.compaq\n\t.com)  during your search\/acquisition of the 67.  $20k sounds about \n\tright for a wrong engine, condition 3 car.  This means that the car may\n\tnot have significant investment value but could be an excellent driver\n\tand or hobby car.  You will also want to get a copy of the Corvette\n\tBlack Book immediately.  Don't leave home (to look at Vettes) without it.\n\tSince you are contemplating spending >$20k, you might want to invest a\n\tfew hours in reading the \"Corvette Buyer's Guide\" and purchase Noland\n\tAdams' tape \"How to Buy a Corvette.\"  The tape shows you how to check\n\tfor damage, etc..  There are many many factors that will affect the\n\tvalue, road worthiness, and repair expense of your proposed 67.  The\n\tlist is much too long to go into here.  Join the VetteNet where\n\tthere are over 100 current Corvette owners (many with 60s vintage\n\tvettes) that are available to help you.  The pubs I mentioned above\n\tare available from Mid-America Designs (800) 637-5533 and several\n\tother Corvette parts sources.  Good luck!!!","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Without restating the thread going here.....\n\nZoloft is a stimulating antidepressant.\n\nIt is unfortunate that antidepressant therapy is trial and error, but\nif it is any help, there are a lot of people using the side effects of\nthe many medications to help manage other conditions.\n\nHang in there, maybe someday a \"brain chemistry set\" will be available\nand all the serotonin questions will have answers.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"PROGRAM EUROCRYPT'93, MAY 23-27, LOFTHUS, NORWAY\n------------------------------------------------\nGeneral chair : Kaare Presttun \n                email: eurocrypt93@alcatel.no                \n\nProgram chair : Tor Helleseth\n                Department of Informatics \n                University of Bergen\n                N-5020 Bergen\n                NORWAY\n                email: torh@ii.uib.no\n\n=========================================================================\n\n                      MONDAY,  May 24\n                      ---------------\n                 \n              SESSION 1 : AUTHENTICATION\n              --------------------------\n              Chair: J. Seberry\n\n 9.00- 9.30   Welcome and opening remarks\n 9.30-10.00   On the Relation Between A-codes and Codes Correcting Independent \n              Errors, T. Johansson, B. Smeets (Lund University, Sweden), \n              and G. Kabatianskii (Institute for Problems of Information \n              Transmission, Russia)\n10.00-10.20   Optimal Authentication Systems, R. Safavi-Naini and L. Tombak \n              (University of Wollongong, Australia)\n\n10.20-10.50   Coffee or tea\n\n\n              SESSION 2 : PUBLIC KEY\n              ----------------------\n              Chair: A. Odlyzko\n\n10.50-11.10   Factoring Integers using SIMD Sieves, B. Dixon (Princeton \n              University, USA) and A.K. Lenstra (Bellcore, USA)\n11.10-11.30   A New Elliptic Curve Based Analogue of RSA, \n              N. Demytko (Telecom Research Laboratories, Australia)\n11.30-11.50   Weaknesses of a Public-Key Cryptosystem Based on Factorization \n              of Finite Groups, J. Stern (ENS, France)\n\n11.50-14.00   Lunch\n\n\n              SESSION 3 : BLOCK CIPHERS\n              -------------------------\n              Chair: A. De Santis\n\n14.00-14.20   Differentially Uniform Mappings for Cryptography, \n              K. Nyberg (Technical University of Vienna, Austria)\n14.20-14.40   On Permutations Against Differential Cryptanalysis, \n              T. Beth and C. Ding (EISS, University of Karlsruhe, Germany)\n14.40-15.10   Two New Classes of Bent Functions, \n              C. Carlet (INRIA, France)\n15.10-15.30   Boolean Functions Satisfying a Higher Order Strict Avalanche\n              Condition, T.W. Cusick (SUNY, Buffalo, USA)\n\n15.30-16.00   Coffee or tea\n\n\n              SESSION 4 : SECRET SHARING\n              --------------------------\n              Chair: Y. Desmedt\n\n16.00-16.30  Size of Shares and Probability of Cheating in Threshold Schemes, \n             M. Carpentieri, A. De Santis and U. Vaccaro (University of \n             Salerno, Italy)\n16.30-17.00  Nonperfect Secret Sharing Schemes and Matroids, K. Kurosawa,\n             K. Okada, K. Sakano, W. Ogata and S. Tsujii (Tokyo Institute of\n             Technology, Japan)\n     \n\n                      TUESDAY, May 25\n                      ---------------\n\n             SESSION 5 : STREAMCIPHERS I\n             ---------------------------\n             Chair: T. Helleseth \n\n 9.00-10.00 From the Memoars of a Norwegian Cryptolog, E. Selmer (University \n            of Bergen, Norway) (Invited talk)\n10.00-10.20 On the Linear Complexity of Products of Shift-Register Sequences, \n            R. Gottfert and H. Niderreiter (Austrian Academy of Sciences, \n            Vienna, Austria)\n\n10.20-10.50 Coffee or tea\n\n\n             SESSION 6 : STREAMCIPHERS II\n             ----------------------------\n             Chair: D. Gollman\n\n10.50-11.20  Resynchronisation Weaknesses in Synchronous Stream Ciphers,\n             J. Daemen, R. Govaerts and J. Vandewalle (ESAT, KU Leuven, \n             Belgium)\n11.20-11.40  Blind Synchronization of m-Sequences with Even Span,\n             R. Games and J.J. Rushanan (MITRE, USA)\n11.40-12.10  On Constructions and Nonlinearity of Correlation Immune Functions,\n             J. Seberry, X. Zhang and Y. Zheng (University of Wollongong, \n             Australia)\n\n12.10-14.00  Lunch\n\n\n             SESSION 7 : DIGITAL SIGNATURES\n             ------------------------------\n             Chair: C. Schnorr\n\n14.00-14.30  Practical and Provable Secure Release of a Secret and Exchange of\n             Signatures, I.B. Damgard (Aarhus University, Denmark)\n14.30-14.50  Subliminal Communication is Easy Using the DSA, \n             G.J. Simmons\n14.50-15.10  Can OSS be Repaired, D. Naccache (Gemplus, France)\n\n15.10-15.40  Coffee or tea\n\n\n             SESSION 8 : PROTOCOLS I\n             -----------------------\n             Chair: K. Kurosawa\n\n15.40-16.00  Limitations of Logical Analysis of Cryptographic Protocols,  \n             C. Boyd and W. Mao (University of Manchester, United Kingdom)\n16.00-16.30  Practical Anonymous and Secure Voting Scheme, K. Itoh, C. Park \n             and K. Kurosawa (Tokyo Institute of Technology, Japan)\n16.30-16.50  Untransferable Rights in a Client-Independent Server Environment,\n             J. Domingo-Ferrer (University of Barcelona, Spain)\n16.50-17.20  Interactive Hashing Simplifies Zero-Knowledge Protocol Design,\n             R. Ostrovsky (UC Berkeley, USA), R. Venkatesan (Bellcore, USA) and\n             M. Yung (IBM T. Watson, USA)\n\n             RUMP SESSION\n             -------------\n             Chair: I. Ingemarsson     \n\n20.00-24.00  Accepted paper: \n             Security in Digital Mobile Communication Systems,\n             C. Park, K. Kurosawa, T. Okamoto and S. Tsujii (Tokyo\n             Institute of Technology, Japan)\n\n\n                     WEDNESDAY, May 26\n                     -----------------\n\n             SESSION 9 : HASH FUNCTIONS\n             ---------------------------\n             Chair: B. Preneel\n\n 9.00- 9.20  One-Way Accumulators: A Decentralized Alternative to Digital\n             Signatures, J. Benaloh and M. de Mare (Clarkson University, USA)\n 9.20- 9.40  Some Attacks on the ARL Hash Function, I.B. Damgard and \n             L.R. Knudsen (Aarhus University, Denmark)\n 9.40-10.10  Collisions for the Compression Function of MD5, B. den Boer and\n             A. Bosselaers (ESAT, KU Leuven, Belgium)\n10.10-10.30  How to Find and Avoid Collisions for the Knapsack Hash Function, \n             J. Patarin (Bull CP8, France)\n  \n10.30-11.00  Coffee or tea\n\n\n             SESSION 10: PAYMENT SYSTEMS\n             ---------------------------\n             Chair: I.B. Damgard\n\n11.00-11.20  Single Term Off-Line Coins, N.T. Ferguson (CWI Amsterdam,\n             The Netherlands)\n11.20-11.40  Improved Privacy in Wallets with Observers,\n             R.J.F. Cramer (CWI Amsterdam, The Netherlands) and \n             T.P. Pedersen (Aarhus University, Denmark)\n11.40-12.10  How to Prevent the Mafia Fraud Using Distance-Bounding Protocols,\n             S. Brands and D. Chaum (CWI Amsterdam, The Netherlands)\n           \n12.10-14.00 Lunch\n \n\n             SESSION 11: CRYPTANALYSIS\n             --------------------------\n             Chair: G.J. Simmons\n\n14.00-14.20 On the Distribution of Characteristics in Bijective Mappings,\n            L. O'Connor (University of Waterloo, Canada)\n14.20-14.40 On the Security of the IDEA Block Cipher, \n            W. Meier (HTL, Switzerland)\n14.40-15.10 Linear Cryptanalysis Method for DES Cipher,\n            M. Matsui (Mitsubishi, Japan)\n15.10-15.40 New Types of Cryptanalytic Attacks Using Related Keys, \n            E. Biham (Technion, Israel)\n\n15.40-16.10 Coffee or tea\n \n\n             SESSION 12 : PROTOCOLS II\n             -------------------------\n             Chair: P. Landrock\n\n16.10-16.40  Reconciliation on a Secret Key Through Public Discussion,\n             G. Brassard and L. Salvail (University of Montreal, Canada)\n16.40-17.10  Global, Unpredictable Bit Generation Without Broadcast,\n             D. Beaver and N. So (Penn State University, USA)\n17.10-17.40  IACR Business meeting\n\n==========================================================================\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\tYes there is, the patent can be classified as secret.  I recently\n\tsaw a patent from 1947 (dealing with nuclear weapons technology)\n\tthat was only declassified in the last couple of years.  There\n\tis of course the problem of enforcing the patent.\n\n\n\tThis is absolutely right.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Archive-name: jpeg-faq\nLast-modified: 2 May 1993\n\nThis FAQ article discusses JPEG image compression.  Suggestions for\nadditions and clarifications are welcome.\n\nNew since version of 18 April 1993:\n  * New version of XV supports 24-bit viewing for X Windows.\n  * New versions of DVPEG & Image Alchemy for DOS.\n  * New versions of Image Archiver & PMView for OS\/2.\n  * New listing: MGIF for monochrome-display Ataris.\n\n\nThis article includes the following sections:\n\n[1]  What is JPEG?\n[2]  Why use JPEG?\n[3]  When should I use JPEG, and when should I stick with GIF?\n[4]  How well does JPEG compress images?\n[5]  What are good \"quality\" settings for JPEG?\n[6]  Where can I get JPEG software?\n    [6A] \"canned\" software, viewers, etc.\n    [6B] source code\n[7]  What's all this hoopla about color quantization?\n[8]  How does JPEG work?\n[9]  What about lossless JPEG?\n[10]  Why all the argument about file formats?\n[11]  How do I recognize which file format I have, and what do I do about it?\n[12]  What about arithmetic coding?\n[13]  Does loss accumulate with repeated compression\/decompression?\n[14]  What are some rules of thumb for converting GIF images to JPEG?\n\nSections 1-6 are basic info that every JPEG user needs to know;\nsections 7-14 are advanced info for the curious.\n\nThis article is posted every 2 weeks.  You can always find the latest version\nin the news.answers archive at rtfm.mit.edu (18.70.0.226).  By FTP, fetch\n\/pub\/usenet\/news.answers\/jpeg-faq; or if you don't have FTP, send e-mail to\nmail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with body \"send usenet\/news.answers\/jpeg-faq\".\nMany other FAQ articles are also stored in this archive.  For more\ninstructions on use of the archive, send e-mail to the same address with the\nwords \"help\" and \"index\" (no quotes) on separate lines.  If you don't get a\nreply, the server may be misreading your return address; add a line such as\n\"path myname@mysite\" to specify your correct e-mail address to reply to.\n\n\n----------\n\n\n[1]  What is JPEG?\n\nJPEG (pronounced \"jay-peg\") is a standardized image compression mechanism.\nJPEG stands for Joint Photographic Experts Group, the original name of the\ncommittee that wrote the standard.  JPEG is designed for compressing either\nfull-color or gray-scale digital images of \"natural\", real-world scenes.\nIt does not work so well on non-realistic images, such as cartoons or line\ndrawings.\n\nJPEG does not handle black-and-white (1-bit-per-pixel) images, nor does it\nhandle motion picture compression.  Standards for compressing those types\nof images are being worked on by other committees, named JBIG and MPEG\nrespectively.\n\nJPEG is \"lossy\", meaning that the image you get out of decompression isn't\nquite identical to what you originally put in.  The algorithm achieves much\nof its compression by exploiting known limitations of the human eye, notably\nthe fact that small color details aren't perceived as well as small details\nof light-and-dark.  Thus, JPEG is intended for compressing images that will\nbe looked at by humans.  If you plan to machine-analyze your images, the\nsmall errors introduced by JPEG may be a problem for you, even if they are\ninvisible to the eye.\n\nA useful property of JPEG is that the degree of lossiness can be varied by\nadjusting compression parameters.  This means that the image maker can trade\noff file size against output image quality.  You can make *extremely* small\nfiles if you don't mind poor quality; this is useful for indexing image\narchives, making thumbnail views or icons, etc. etc.  Conversely, if you\naren't happy with the output quality at the default compression setting, you\ncan jack up the quality until you are satisfied, and accept lesser compression.\n\n\n[2]  Why use JPEG?\n\nThere are two good reasons: to make your image files smaller, and to store\n24-bit-per-pixel color data instead of 8-bit-per-pixel data.\n\nMaking image files smaller is a big win for transmitting files across\nnetworks and for archiving libraries of images.  Being able to compress a\n2 Mbyte full-color file down to 100 Kbytes or so makes a big difference in\ndisk space and transmission time!  (If you are comparing GIF and JPEG, the\nsize ratio is more like four to one.  More details below.)\n\nIf your viewing software doesn't support JPEG directly, you'll have to\nconvert JPEG to some other format for viewing or manipulating images.  Even\nwith a JPEG-capable viewer, it takes longer to decode and view a JPEG image\nthan to view an image of a simpler format (GIF, for instance).  Thus, using\nJPEG is essentially a time\/space tradeoff: you give up some time in order to\nstore or transmit an image more cheaply.\n\nIt's worth noting that when network or phone transmission is involved, the\ntime savings from transferring a shorter file can be much greater than the\nextra time to decompress the file.  I'll let you do the arithmetic yourself.\n\nThe other reason why JPEG will gradually replace GIF as a standard Usenet\nposting format is that JPEG can store full color information: 24 bits\/pixel\n(16 million colors) instead of 8 or less (256 or fewer colors).  If you have\nonly 8-bit display hardware then this may not seem like much of an advantage\nto you.  Within a couple of years, though, 8-bit GIF will look as obsolete as\nblack-and-white MacPaint format does today.  Furthermore, for reasons detailed\nin section 7, JPEG is far more useful than GIF for exchanging images among\npeople with widely varying color display hardware.  Hence JPEG is considerably\nmore appropriate than GIF for use as a Usenet posting standard.\n\n\n[3]  When should I use JPEG, and when should I stick with GIF?\n\nJPEG is *not* going to displace GIF entirely; for some types of images,\nGIF is superior in image quality, file size, or both.  One of the first\nthings to learn about JPEG is which kinds of images to apply it to.\n\nAs a rule of thumb, JPEG is superior to GIF for storing full-color or\ngray-scale images of \"realistic\" scenes; that means scanned photographs and\nsimilar material.  JPEG is superior even if you don't have 24-bit display\nhardware, and it is a LOT superior if you do.  (See section 7 for details.)\n\nGIF does significantly better on images with only a few distinct colors,\nsuch as cartoons and line drawings.  In particular, large areas of pixels\nthat are all *exactly* the same color are compressed very efficiently indeed\nby GIF.  JPEG can't squeeze these files as much as GIF does without\nintroducing visible defects.  This sort of image is best kept in GIF form.\n(In particular, single-color borders are quite cheap in GIF files, but they\nshould be avoided in JPEG files.)\n\nJPEG also has a hard time with very sharp edges: a row of pure-black pixels\nadjacent to a row of pure-white pixels, for example.  Sharp edges tend to\ncome out blurred unless you use a very high quality setting.  Again, this\nsort of thing is not found in scanned photographs, but it shows up fairly\noften in GIF files: borders, overlaid text, etc.  The blurriness is\nparticularly objectionable with text that's only a few pixels high.\nIf you have a GIF with a lot of small-size overlaid text, don't JPEG it.\n\nComputer-drawn images (ray-traced scenes, for instance) usually fall between\nscanned images and cartoons in terms of complexity.  The more complex and\nsubtly rendered the image, the more likely that JPEG will do well on it.\nThe same goes for semi-realistic artwork (fantasy drawings and such).\n\nPlain black-and-white (two level) images should never be converted to JPEG.\nYou need at least about 16 gray levels before JPEG is useful for gray-scale\nimages.  It should also be noted that GIF is lossless for gray-scale images\nof up to 256 levels, while JPEG is not.\n\nIf you have an existing library of GIF images, you may wonder whether you\nshould convert them to JPEG.  You will lose a little image quality if you do.\n(Section 7, which argues that JPEG image quality is superior to GIF, only\napplies if both formats start from a full-color original.  If you start from\na GIF, you've already irretrievably lost a great deal of information; JPEG\ncan only make things worse.)  However, the disk space savings may justify\nconverting anyway.  This is a decision you'll have to make for yourself.\nIf you do convert a GIF library to JPEG, see section 14 for hints.  Be\nprepared to leave some images in GIF format, since some GIFs will not\nconvert well.\n\n\n[4]  How well does JPEG compress images?\n\nPretty darn well.  Here are some sample file sizes for an image I have\nhandy, a 727x525 full-color image of a ship in a harbor.  The first three\nfiles are for comparison purposes; the rest were created with the free JPEG\nsoftware described in section 6B.\n\nFile\t   Size in bytes\t\tComments\n\nship.ppm\t1145040  Original file in PPM format (no compression; 24 bits\n\t\t\t or 3 bytes per pixel, plus a few bytes overhead)\nship.ppm.Z\t 963829  PPM file passed through Unix compress\n\t\t\t compress doesn't accomplish a lot, you'll note.\n\t\t\t Other text-oriented compressors give similar results.\nship.gif\t 240438  Converted to GIF with ppmquant -fs 256 | ppmtogif\n\t\t\t Most of the savings is the result of losing color\n\t\t\t info: GIF saves 8 bits\/pixel, not 24.  (See sec. 7.)\n\nship.jpg95\t 155622  cjpeg -Q 95    (highest useful quality setting)\n\t\t\t This is indistinguishable from the 24-bit original,\n\t\t\t at least to my nonprofessional eyeballs.\nship.jpg75\t  58009  cjpeg -Q 75    (default setting)\n\t\t\t You have to look mighty darn close to distinguish this\n\t\t\t from the original, even with both on-screen at once.\nship.jpg50\t  38406  cjpeg -Q 50\n\t\t\t This has slight defects; if you know what to look\n\t\t\t for, you could tell it's been JPEGed without seeing\n\t\t\t the original.  Still as good image quality as many\n\t\t\t recent postings in Usenet pictures groups.\nship.jpg25\t  25192  cjpeg -Q 25\n\t\t\t JPEG's characteristic \"blockiness\" becomes apparent\n\t\t\t at this setting (djpeg -blocksmooth helps some).\n\t\t\t Still, I've seen plenty of Usenet postings that were\n\t\t\t of poorer image quality than this.\nship.jpg5o\t   6587  cjpeg -Q 5 -optimize  (-optimize cuts table overhead)\n\t\t\t Blocky, but perfectly satisfactory for preview or\n\t\t\t indexing purposes.  Note that this file is TINY:\n\t\t\t the compression ratio from the original is 173:1 !\n\nIn this case JPEG can make a file that's a factor of four or five smaller\nthan a GIF of comparable quality (the -Q 75 file is every bit as good as the\nGIF, better if you have a full-color display).  This seems to be a typical\nratio for real-world scenes.\n\n\n[5]  What are good \"quality\" settings for JPEG?\n\nMost JPEG compressors let you pick a file size vs. image quality tradeoff by\nselecting a quality setting.  There seems to be widespread confusion about\nthe meaning of these settings.  \"Quality 95\" does NOT mean \"keep 95% of the\ninformation\", as some have claimed.  The quality scale is purely arbitrary;\nit's not a percentage of anything.\n\nThe name of the game in using JPEG is to pick the lowest quality setting\n(smallest file size) that decompresses into an image indistinguishable from\nthe original.  This setting will vary from one image to another and from one\nobserver to another, but here are some rules of thumb.\n\nThe default quality setting (-Q 75) is very often the best choice.  This\nsetting is about the lowest you can go without expecting to see defects in a\ntypical image.  Try -Q 75 first; if you see defects, then go up.  Except for\nexperimental purposes, never go above -Q 95; saying -Q 100 will produce a\nfile two or three times as large as -Q 95, but of hardly any better quality.\n\nIf the image was less than perfect quality to begin with, you might be able to\ngo down to -Q 50 without objectionable degradation.  On the other hand, you\nmight need to go to a HIGHER quality setting to avoid further degradation.\nThe second case seems to apply much of the time when converting GIFs to JPEG.\nThe default -Q 75 is about right for compressing 24-bit images, but -Q 85 to\n95 is usually better for converting GIFs (see section 14 for more info).\n\nIf you want a very small file (say for preview or indexing purposes) and are\nprepared to tolerate large defects, a -Q setting in the range of 5 to 10 is\nabout right.  -Q 2 or so may be amusing as \"op art\".\n\n(Note: the quality settings discussed in this article apply to the free JPEG\nsoftware described in section 6B, and to many programs based on it.  Other\nJPEG implementations, such as Image Alchemy, may use a completely different\nquality scale.  Some programs don't even provide a numeric scale, just\n\"high\"\/\"medium\"\/\"low\"-style choices.)\n\n\n[6]  Where can I get JPEG software?\n\nMost of the programs described in this section are available by FTP.\nIf you don't know how to use FTP, see the FAQ article \"How to find sources\".\n(If you don't have direct access to FTP, read about ftpmail servers in the\nsame article.)  That article appears regularly in news.answers, or you can\nget it by sending e-mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with\n\"send usenet\/news.answers\/finding-sources\" in the body.  The \"Anonymous FTP\nList FAQ\" may also be helpful --- it's usenet\/news.answers\/ftp-list\/faq in\nthe news.answers archive.\n\nNOTE: this list changes constantly.  If you have a copy more than a couple\nmonths old, get the latest JPEG FAQ from the news.answers archive.\n\n\n[6A]  If you are looking for \"canned\" software, viewers, etc:\n\nThe first part of this list is system-specific programs that only run on one\nkind of system.  If you don't see what you want for your machine, check out\nthe portable JPEG software described at the end of the list.  Note that this\nlist concentrates on free and shareware programs that you can obtain over\nInternet; but some commercial programs are listed too.\n\nX Windows:\n\nXV (shareware, $25) is an excellent viewer for JPEG, GIF, and many other\nimage formats.  It can also do format conversion and some simple image\nmanipulations.  It's available for FTP from export.lcs.mit.edu (18.24.0.12),\nfile contrib\/xv-3.00.tar.Z.  Version 3.00 is a major upgrade with support\nfor 24-bit displays and many other improvements; however, it is brand new\nand still has some bugs lurking.  If you prefer not to be on the bleeding\nedge, stick with version 2.21, also available from export.  Note that\nversion 2.21 is not a good choice if you have a 24-bit display (you'll get\nonly 8-bit color), nor for converting 24-bit images to JPEG.  But 2.21 works\nfine for converting GIF and other 8-bit images to JPEG.  CAUTION: there is a\nglitch in version 2.21: be sure to check the \"save at normal size\" checkbox\nwhen saving a JPEG file, or the file will be blurry.\n\nAnother good choice for X Windows is John Cristy's free ImageMagick package,\nalso available from export.lcs.mit.edu, file contrib\/ImageMagick.tar.Z.\nThis package handles many image processing and conversion tasks.  The\nImageMagick viewer handles 24-bit displays correctly; for colormapped\ndisplays, it does better (though slower) color quantization than XV or the\nbasic free JPEG software.\n\nBoth of the above are large, complex packages.  If you just want a simple\nimage viewer, try xloadimage or xli.  xloadimage supports JPEG in its latest\nrelease, 3.03.  xloadimage is free and available from export.lcs.mit.edu,\nfile contrib\/xloadimage-3.03.tar.Z.  xli is a variant version of xloadimage,\nsaid by its fans to be somewhat faster and more robust than the original.\n(The current xli is indeed faster and more robust than the current\nxloadimage, at least with respect to JPEG files, because it has the IJG v4\ndecoder while xloadimage 3.03 is using a hacked-over v1.  The next\nxloadimage release will fix this.)  xli is also free and available from\nexport.lcs.mit.edu, file contrib\/xli.1.14.tar.Z.  Both programs are said\nto do the right thing with 24-bit displays.\n\n\nMS-DOS:\n\nThis covers plain DOS; for Windows or OS\/2 programs, see the next headings.\n\nOne good choice is Eric Praetzel's free DVPEG, which views JPEG and GIF files.\nThe current version, 2.5, is available by FTP from sunee.uwaterloo.ca\n(129.97.50.50), file pub\/jpeg\/viewers\/dvpeg25.zip.  This is a good basic\nviewer that works on either 286 or 386\/486 machines.  The user interface is\nnot flashy, but it's functional.\n\nAnother freeware JPEG\/GIF\/TGA viewer is Mohammad Rezaei's Hiview.  The\ncurrent version, 1.2, is available from Simtel20 and mirror sites (see NOTE\nbelow), file msdos\/graphics\/hv12.zip.  Hiview requires a 386 or better CPU\nand a VCPI-compatible memory manager (QEMM386 and 386MAX work; Windows and\nOS\/2 do not).  Hiview is currently the fastest viewer for images that are no\nbigger than your screen.  For larger images, it scales the image down to fit\non the screen (rather than using panning\/scrolling as most viewers do).\nYou may or may not prefer this approach, but there's no denying that it\nslows down loading of large images considerably.  Note: installation is a\nbit tricky; read the directions carefully!\n\nA shareware alternative is ColorView for DOS ($30).  This is easier to\ninstall than either of the two freeware alternatives.  Its user interface is\nalso much spiffier-looking, although personally I find it harder to use ---\nmore keystrokes, inconsistent behavior.  It is faster than DVPEG but a\nlittle slower than Hiview, at least on my hardware.  (For images larger than\nscreen size, DVPEG and ColorView seem to be about the same speed, and both\nare faster than Hiview.)  The current version is 2.1, available from\nSimtel20 and mirror sites (see NOTE below), file msdos\/graphics\/dcview21.zip.\nRequires a VESA graphics driver; if you don't have one, look in vesadrv2.zip\nor vesa-tsr.zip from the same directory.  (Many recent PCs have a built-in\nVESA driver, so don't try to load a VESA driver unless ColorView complains\nthat the driver is missing.)\n\nA second shareware alternative is Fullview, which has been kicking around\nthe net for a while, but I don't know any stable archive location for it.\nThe current (rather old) version is inferior to the above viewers anyway.\nThe author tells me that a new version of Fullview will be out shortly\nand it will be submitted to the Simtel20 archives at that time.\n\nThe well-known GIF viewer CompuShow (CSHOW) supports JPEG in its latest\nrevision, 8.60a.  However, CSHOW's JPEG implementation isn't very good:\nit's slow (about half the speed of the above viewers) and image quality is\npoor except on hi-color displays.  Too bad ... it'd have been nice to see a\ngood JPEG capability in CSHOW.  Shareware, $25.  Available from Simtel20 and\nmirror sites (see NOTE below), file msdos\/gif\/cshw860a.zip.\n\nDue to the remarkable variety of PC graphics hardware, any one of these\nviewers might not work on your particular machine.  If you can't get *any*\nof them to work, you'll need to use one of the following conversion programs\nto convert JPEG to GIF, then view with your favorite GIF viewer.  (If you\nhave hi-color hardware, don't use GIF as the intermediate format; try to\nfind a TARGA-capable viewer instead.  VPIC5.0 is reputed to do the right\nthing with hi-color displays.)\n\nThe Independent JPEG Group's free JPEG converters are FTPable from Simtel20\nand mirror sites (see NOTE below), file msdos\/graphics\/jpeg4.zip (or\njpeg4386.zip if you have a 386 and extended memory).  These files are DOS\ncompilations of the free source code described in section 6B; they will\nconvert JPEG to and from GIF, Targa, and PPM formats.\n\nHandmade Software offers free JPEG<=>GIF conversion tools, GIF2JPG\/JPG2GIF.\nThese are slow and are limited to conversion to and from GIF format; in\nparticular, you can't get 24-bit color output from a JPEG.  The major\nadvantage of these tools is that they will read and write HSI's proprietary\nJPEG format as well as the Usenet-standard JFIF format.  Since HSI-format\nfiles are rather widespread on BBSes, this is a useful capability.  Version\n2.0 of these tools is free (prior versions were shareware).  Get it from\nSimtel20 and mirror sites (see NOTE below), file msdos\/graphics\/gif2jpg2.zip.\nNOTE: do not use HSI format for files to be posted on Internet, since it is\nnot readable on non-PC platforms.\n\nHandmade Software also has a shareware image conversion and manipulation\npackage, Image Alchemy.  This will translate JPEG files (both JFIF and HSI\nformats) to and from many other image formats.  It can also display images.\nA demo version of Image Alchemy version 1.6.2 is available from Simtel20 and\nmirror sites (see NOTE below), file msdos\/graphics\/alch162.zip.\n\nNOTE ABOUT SIMTEL20: The Internet's key archive site for PC-related programs\nis Simtel20, full name wsmr-simtel20.army.mil (192.88.110.20).  Simtel20\nruns a non-Unix system with weird directory names; where this document\nrefers to directory (eg) \"msdos\/graphics\" at Simtel20, that really means\n\"pd1:<msdos.graphics>\".  If you are not physically on MILnet, you should\nexpect rather slow FTP transfer rates from Simtel20.  There are several\nInternet sites that maintain copies (mirrors) of the Simtel20 archives;\nmost FTP users should go to one of the mirror sites instead.  A popular USA\nmirror site is oak.oakland.edu (141.210.10.117), which keeps Simtel20 files\nin (eg) \"\/pub\/msdos\/graphics\".  If you have no FTP capability, you can\nretrieve files from Simtel20 by e-mail; see informational postings in\ncomp.archives.msdos.announce to find out how.  If you are outside the USA,\nconsult the same newsgroup to learn where your nearest Simtel20 mirror is.\n\nMicrosoft Windows:\n\nThere are several Windows programs capable of displaying JPEG images.\n(Windows viewers are generally slower than DOS viewers on the same hardware,\ndue to Windows' system overhead.  Note that you can run the DOS conversion\nprograms described above inside a Windows DOS window.)\n\nThe newest entry is WinECJ, which is free and EXTREMELY fast.  Version 1.0\nis available from ftp.rahul.net, file \/pub\/bryanw\/pc\/jpeg\/wecj.zip.\nRequires Windows 3.1 and 256-or-more-colors mode.  This is a no-frills\nviewer with the bad habit of hogging the machine completely while it\ndecodes; and the image quality is noticeably worse than other viewers.\nBut it's so fast you'll use it anyway, at least for previewing...\n\nJView is freeware, fairly fast, has good on-line help, and can write out the\ndecompressed image in Windows BMP format; but it can't create new JPEG\nfiles, and it doesn't view GIFs.  JView also lacks some other useful\nfeatures of the shareware viewers (such as brightness adjustment), but it's\nan excellent basic viewer.  The current version, 0.9, is available from\nftp.cica.indiana.edu (129.79.20.84), file pub\/pc\/win3\/desktop\/jview090.zip.\n(Mirrors of this archive can be found at some other Internet sites,\nincluding wuarchive.wustl.edu.)\n\nWinJPEG (shareware, $20) displays JPEG,GIF,Targa,TIFF, and BMP image files;\nit can write all of these formats too, so it can be used as a converter.\nIt has some other nifty features including color-balance adjustment and\nslideshow.  The current version is 2.1, available from Simtel20 and mirror\nsites (see NOTE above), file msdos\/windows3\/winjp210.zip.  (This is a slow\n286-compatible version; if you register, you'll get the 386-only version,\nwhich is roughly 25% faster.)\n\nColorView is another shareware entry ($30).  This was an early and promising\ncontender, but it has not been updated in some time, and at this point it\nhas no real advantages over WinJPEG.  If you want to try it anyway, the\ncurrent version is 0.97, available from ftp.cica.indiana.edu, file\npub\/pc\/win3\/desktop\/cview097.zip.  (I understand that a new version will\nbe appearing once the authors are finished with ColorView for DOS.)\n\nDVPEG (see DOS heading) also works under Windows, but only in full-screen\nmode, not in a window.\n\nOS\/2:\n\nThe following files are available from hobbes.nmsu.edu (128.123.35.151).\nNote: check \/pub\/uploads for more recent versions --- the hobbes moderator\nis not very fast about moving uploads into their permanent directories.\n\/pub\/os2\/2.x\/graphics\/jpegv4.zip\n    32-bit version of free IJG conversion programs, version 4.\n\/pub\/os2\/all\/graphics\/jpeg4-16.zip\n    16-bit version of same, for OS\/2 1.x.\n\/pub\/os2\/2.x\/graphics\/imgarc12.zip\n    Image Archiver 1.02: image conversion\/viewing with PM graphical interface.\n    Strong on conversion functions, viewing is a bit weaker.  Shareware, $15.\n\/pub\/os2\/2.x\/graphics\/pmjpeg11.zip\n    PMJPEG 1.1: OS\/2 2.x port of WinJPEG, a popular viewer for Windows\n    (see description in Windows section).  Shareware, $20.\n\/pub\/os2\/2.x\/graphics\/pmview85.zip\n    PMView 0.85: JPEG\/GIF\/BMP viewer.  GIF viewing very fast, JPEG viewing\n    fast if you have huge amounts of RAM, otherwise about the same speed\n    as the above programs.  Strong 24-bit display support.  Shareware, $20.\n\nMacintosh:\n\nMost Mac JPEG programs rely on Apple's JPEG implementation, which is part of\nthe QuickTime system extension; so you need to have QuickTime installed.\nTo use QuickTime, you need a 68020 or better CPU and you need to be running\nSystem 6.0.7 or later.  (If you're running System 6, you must also install\nthe 32-bit QuickDraw extension; this is built-in on System 7.)  You can get\nQuickTime by FTP from ftp.apple.com, file dts\/mac\/quicktime\/quicktime.hqx.\n(As of 11\/92, this file contains QuickTime 1.5, which is better than QT 1.0\nin several ways.  With respect to JPEG, it is marginally faster and\nconsiderably less prone to crash when fed a corrupt JPEG file.  However,\nsome applications seem to have compatibility problems with QT 1.5.)\n\nMac users should keep in mind that QuickTime's JPEG format, PICT\/JPEG, is\nnot the same as the Usenet-standard JFIF JPEG format.  (See section 10 for\ndetails.)  If you post images on Usenet, make sure they are in JFIF format.\nMost of the programs mentioned below can generate either format.\n\nThe first choice is probably JPEGView, a free program for viewing images\nthat are in JFIF format, PICT\/JPEG format, or GIF format.  It also can\nconvert between the two JPEG formats.  The current version, 2.0, is a big\nimprovement over prior versions.  Get it from sumex-aim.stanford.edu\n(36.44.0.6), file \/info-mac\/app\/jpeg-view-20.hqx.  Requires System 7 and\nQuickTime.  On 8-bit displays, JPEGView usually produces the best color\nimage quality of all the currently available Mac JPEG viewers.  JPEGView can\nview large images in much less memory than other Mac viewers; in fact, it's\nthe only one that can deal with JPEG images much over 640x480 pixels on a\ntypical 4MB Mac.  Given a large image, JPEGView automatically scales it down\nto fit on the screen, rather than presenting scroll bars like most other\nviewers.  (You can zoom in on any desired portion, though.)  Some people\nlike this behavior, some don't.  Overall, JPEGView's user interface is very\nwell thought out.\n\nGIFConverter, a shareware ($40) image viewer\/converter, supports JFIF and\nPICT\/JPEG, as well as GIF and several other image formats.  The latest\nversion is 2.3.2.  Get it from sumex-aim.stanford.edu, file\n\/info-mac\/art\/gif\/gif-converter-232.hqx.  Requires System 6.0.5 or later.\nGIFConverter is not better than JPEGView as a plain JPEG\/GIF viewer, but\nit has much more extensive image manipulation and format conversion\ncapabilities, so you may find it worth its shareware fee if you do a lot of\nplaying around with images.  Also, the newest version of GIFConverter can\nload and save JFIF images *without* QuickTime, so it is your best bet if\nyour machine is too old to run QuickTime.  (But it's faster with QuickTime.)\nNote: If GIFConverter runs out of memory trying to load a large JPEG, try\nconverting the file to GIF with JPEG Convert, then viewing the GIF version.\n\nJPEG Convert, a Mac version of the free IJG JPEG conversion utilities, is\navailable from sumex-aim.stanford.edu, file \/info-mac\/app\/jpeg-convert-10.hqx.\nThis will run on any Mac, but it only does file conversion, not viewing.\nYou can use it in conjunction with any GIF viewer.\n\nPrevious versions of this FAQ recommended Imagery JPEG v0.6, a JPEG<=>GIF\nconverter based on an old version of the IJG code.  If you are using this\nprogram, you definitely should replace it with JPEG Convert.\n\nApple's free program PictPixie can view images in JFIF, QuickTime JPEG, and\nGIF format, and can convert between these formats.  You can get PictPixie\nfrom ftp.apple.com, file dts\/mac\/quicktime\/qt.1.0.stuff\/pictpixie.hqx.\nRequires QuickTime.  PictPixie was intended as a developer's tool, and it's\nreally not the best choice unless you like to fool around with QuickTime.\nSome of its drawbacks are that it requires lots of memory, it produces\nrelatively poor color image quality on anything less than a 24-bit display,\nand it has a relatively unfriendly user interface.  Worse, PictPixie is an\nunsupported program, meaning it has some minor bugs that Apple does not\nintend to fix.  (There is an old version of PictPixie, called\nPICTCompressor, floating around the net.  If you have this you should trash\nit, as it's even buggier.  Also, the QuickTime Starter Kit includes a much\ncleaned-up descendant of PictPixie called Picture Compressor.  Note that\nPicture Compressor is NOT free and may not be distributed on the net.)\n\nStorm Technology's Picture Decompress is a free JPEG viewer\/converter.\nThis rather old program is inferior to the above programs in many ways, but\nit will run without System 7 or QuickTime, so you may be forced to use it on\nolder systems.  (It does need 32-bit QuickDraw, so really old machines can't\nuse it.)  You can get it from sumex-aim.stanford.edu, file\n\/info-mac\/app\/picture-decompress-201.hqx.  You must set the file type of a\ndownloaded image file to 'JPEG' to allow Picture Decompress to open it.\n\nIf your machine is too old to run 32-bit QuickDraw (a Mac Plus for instance),\nGIFConverter is your only choice for single-program JPEG viewing.  If you\ndon't want to pay for GIFConverter, use JPEG Convert and a free GIF viewer.\n\nMore and more commercial Mac applications are supporting JPEG, although not\nall can deal with the Usenet-standard JFIF format.  Adobe Photoshop, version\n2.0.1 or later, can read and write JFIF-format JPEG files (use the JPEG\nplug-in from the Acquire menu).  You must set the file type of a downloaded\nJPEG file to 'JPEG' to allow Photoshop to recognize it.\n\nAmiga:\n\n(Most programs listed in this section are stored in the AmiNet archive at\namiga.physik.unizh.ch (130.60.80.80).  There are many mirror sites of this\narchive and you should try to use the closest one.  In the USA, a good\nchoice is wuarchive.wustl.edu; look under \/mirrors\/amiga.physik.unizh.ch\/...)\n\nHamLab Plus is an excellent JPEG viewer\/converter, as well as being a\ngeneral image manipulation tool.  It's cheap (shareware, $20) and can read\nseveral formats besides JPEG.  The current version is 2.0.8.  A demo version\nis available from amiga.physik.unizh.ch (and mirror sites), file\namiga\/gfx\/edit\/hamlab208d.lha.  The demo version will crop images larger\nthan 512x512, but it is otherwise fully functional.\n\nRend24 (shareware, $30) is an image renderer that can display JPEG, ILBM,\nand GIF images.  The program can be used to create animations, even\ncapturing frames on-the-fly from rendering packages like Lightwave.  The\ncurrent version is 1.05, available from amiga.physik.unizh.ch (and mirror\nsites), file amiga\/os30\/gfx\/rend105.lha.  (Note: although this directory is\nsupposedly for AmigaDOS 3.0 programs, the program will also run under\nAmigaDOS 1.3, 2.04 or 2.1.)\n\nViewtek is a free JPEG\/ILBM\/GIF\/ANIM viewer.  The current version is 1.04,\navailable from amiga.physik.unizh.ch (and mirror sites), file\namiga\/gfx\/show\/ViewTek104.lha.\n\nIf you're willing to spend real money, there are several commercial packages\nthat support JPEG.  Two are written by Thomas Krehbiel, the author of Rend24\nand Viewtek.  These are CineMorph, a standalone image morphing package, and\nImageFX, an impressive 24-bit image capture, conversion, editing, painting,\neffects and prepress package that also includes CineMorph.  Both are\ndistributed by Great Valley Products.  Art Department Professional (ADPro),\nfrom ASDG Inc, is the most widely used commercial image manipulation\nsoftware for Amigas.  ImageMaster, from Black Belt Systems, is another\nwell-regarded commercial graphics package with JPEG support.\n\nThe free IJG JPEG software is available compiled for Amigas from\namiga.physik.unizh.ch (and mirror sites) in directory amiga\/gfx\/conv, file\nAmigaJPEGV4.lha.  These programs convert JPEG to\/from PPM,GIF,Targa formats.\n\nThe Amiga world is heavily infested with quick-and-dirty JPEG programs, many\nbased on an ancient beta-test version of the free IJG JPEG software (thanks\nto a certain magazine that published same on its disk-of-the-month, without\nso much as notifying the authors).  Among these are \"AugJPEG\", \"NewAmyJPEG\",\n\"VJPEG\", and probably others I have not even heard of.  In my opinion,\nanything older than IJG version 3 (March 1992) is not worth the disk space\nit's stored on; if you have such a program, trash it and get something newer.\n\nAtari ST:\n\nThe free IJG JPEG software is available compiled for Atari ST, TT, etc,\nfrom atari.archive.umich.edu, file \/atari\/Graphics\/jpeg4bin.zoo.\nThese programs convert JPEG to\/from PPM, GIF, Targa formats.\n\nFor monochrome ST monitors, try MGIF, which manages to achieve four-level\ngrayscale effect by flickering.  Version 4.1 reads JPEG files.  Available\nfrom atari.archive.umich.edu, file \/atari\/Graphics\/mgif41b.zoo.\n\nI have not heard of any other free or shareware JPEG-capable viewers for\nAtaris, but surely there must be some by now?  Pointers appreciated.\n\nAcorn Archimedes:\n\n!ChangeFSI, supplied with RISC OS 3 version 3.10, can convert from and view\nJPEG JFIF format.  Provision is also made to convert images to JPEG,\nalthough this must be done from the CLI rather than by double-clicking.\n\nRecent versions (since 7.11) of the shareware program Translator can handle\nJPEG, along with about 30 other image formats.  While older versions can be\nfound on some Archimedes bboards, the current version is only available by\nregistering with the author, John Kortink, Nutterbrink 31, 7544 WJ, Enschede,\nThe Netherlands.  Price 35 Dutch guilders (about $22 or 10 pounds).\n\nThere's also a commercial product called !JPEG which provides JPEG read\/write\nfunctionality and direct JPEG viewing, as well as a host of other image\nformat conversion and processing options.  This is more expensive but not\nnecessarily better than the above programs.  Contact: DT Software, FREEPOST,\nCambridge, UK.  Tel: 0223 841099.\n\n\nPortable software for almost any system:\n\nIf none of the above fits your situation, you can obtain and compile the free\nJPEG conversion software described in 6B.  You'll also need a viewer program.\nIf your display is 8 bits or less, any GIF viewer will do fine; if you have a\ndisplay with more color capability, try to find a viewer that can read Targa\nor PPM 24-bit image files.\n\nThere are numerous commercial JPEG offerings, with more popping up every\nday.  I recommend that you not spend money on one of these unless you find\nthe available free or shareware software vastly too slow.  In that case,\npurchase a hardware-assisted product.  Ask pointed questions about whether\nthe product complies with the final JPEG standard and about whether it can\nhandle the JFIF file format; many of the earliest commercial releases are\nnot and never will be compatible with anyone else's files.\n\n\n[6B]  If you are looking for source code to work with:\n\nFree, portable C code for JPEG compression is available from the Independent\nJPEG Group, which I lead.  A package containing our source code,\ndocumentation, and some small test files is available from several places.\nThe \"official\" archive site for this source code is ftp.uu.net (137.39.1.9\nor 192.48.96.9).  Look under directory \/graphics\/jpeg; the current release\nis jpegsrc.v4.tar.Z.  (This is a compressed TAR file; don't forget to\nretrieve in binary mode.)  You can retrieve this file by FTP or UUCP.\nIf you are on a PC and don't know how to cope with .tar.Z format, you may\nprefer ZIP format, which you can find at Simtel20 and mirror sites (see NOTE\nabove), file msdos\/graphics\/jpegsrc4.zip.  This file will also be available on\nCompuServe, in the GRAPHSUPPORT forum (GO PICS), library 15, as jpsrc4.zip.\nIf you have no FTP access, you can retrieve the source from your nearest\ncomp.sources.misc archive; version 4 appeared as issues 55-72 of volume 34.\n(If you don't know how to retrieve comp.sources.misc postings, see the FAQ\narticle \"How to find sources\", referred to at the top of section 6.)\n\nThe free JPEG code provides conversion between JPEG \"JFIF\" format and image\nfiles in GIF, PBMPLUS PPM\/PGM, Utah RLE, and Truevision Targa file formats.\nThe core compression and decompression modules can easily be reused in other\nprograms, such as image viewers.  The package is highly portable; we have\ntested it on many machines ranging from PCs to Crays.\n\nWe have released this software for both noncommercial and commercial use.\nCompanies are welcome to use it as the basis for JPEG-related products.\nWe do not ask a royalty, although we do ask for an acknowledgement in\nproduct literature (see the README file in the distribution for details).\nWe hope to make this software industrial-quality --- although, as with\nanything that's free, we offer no warranty and accept no liability.\n\nThe Independent JPEG Group is a volunteer organization; if you'd like to\ncontribute to improving our software, you are welcome to join.\n\n\n[7]  What's all this hoopla about color quantization?\n\nMost people don't have full-color (24 bit per pixel) display hardware.\nTypical display hardware stores 8 or fewer bits per pixel, so it can display\n256 or fewer distinct colors at a time.  To display a full-color image, the\ncomputer must map the image into an appropriate set of representative\ncolors.  This process is called \"color quantization\".  (This is something\nof a misnomer, \"color selection\" would be a better term.  We're stuck with\nthe standard usage though.)\n\nClearly, color quantization is a lossy process.  It turns out that for most\nimages, the details of the color quantization algorithm have MUCH more impact\non the final image quality than do any errors introduced by JPEG (except at\nthe very lowest JPEG quality settings).\n\nSince JPEG is a full-color format, converting a color JPEG image for display\non 8-bit-or-less hardware requires color quantization.  This is true for\n*all* color JPEGs: even if you feed a 256-or-less-color GIF into JPEG, what\ncomes out of the decompressor is *not* 256 colors, but thousands of colors.\nThis happens because JPEG's lossiness affects each pixel a little\ndifferently, so two pixels that started with identical colors will probably\ncome out with slightly different colors.  Each original color gets \"smeared\"\ninto a group of nearby colors.  Therefore quantization is always required to\ndisplay a color JPEG on a colormapped display, regardless of the image\nsource.  The only way to avoid quantization is to ask for gray-scale output.\n\n(Incidentally, because of this effect it's nearly meaningless to talk about\nthe number of colors used by a JPEG image.  Even if you attempted to count\nthe number of distinct pixel values, different JPEG decoders would give you\ndifferent results because of roundoff error differences.  I occasionally see\nposted images described as \"256-color JPEG\".  This tells me that the poster\n(a) hasn't read this FAQ and (b) probably converted the JPEG from a GIF.\nJPEGs can be classified as color or gray-scale (just like photographs), but\nnumber of colors just isn't a useful concept for JPEG.)\n\nOn the other hand, a GIF image by definition has already been quantized to\n256 or fewer colors.  (A GIF *does* have a definite number of colors in its\npalette, and the format doesn't allow more than 256 palette entries.)\nFor purposes of Usenet picture distribution, GIF has the advantage that the\nsender precomputes the color quantization, so recipients don't have to.\nThis is also the *disadvantage* of GIF: you're stuck with the sender's\nquantization.  If the sender quantized to a different number of colors than\nwhat you can display, you have to re-quantize, resulting in much poorer\nimage quality than if you had quantized once from a full-color image.\nFurthermore, if the sender didn't use a high-quality color quantization\nalgorithm, you're out of luck.\n\nFor this reason, JPEG offers the promise of significantly better image quality\nfor all users whose machines don't match the sender's display hardware.\nJPEG's full color image can be quantized to precisely match the user's display\nhardware.  Furthermore, you will be able to take advantage of future\nimprovements in quantization algorithms (there is a lot of active research in\nthis area), or purchase better display hardware, to get a better view of JPEG\nimages you already have.  With a GIF, you're stuck forevermore with what was\nsent.\n\nIt's also worth mentioning that many GIF-viewing programs include rather\nshoddy quantization routines.  If you view a 256-color GIF on a 16-color EGA\ndisplay, for example, you are probably getting a much worse image than you\nneed to.  This is partly an inevitable consequence of doing two color\nquantizations (one to create the GIF, one to display it), but often it's\nalso due to sloppiness.  JPEG conversion programs will be forced to use\nhigh quality quantizers in order to get acceptable results at all, and in\nnormal use they will quantize directly to the number of colors to be\ndisplayed.  Thus, JPEG is likely to provide better results than the average\nGIF program for low-color-resolution displays as well as high-resolution ones!\n\nFinally, an ever-growing number of people have better-than-8-bit display\nhardware already: 15-bit \"hi-color\" PC displays, true 24-bit displays on\nworkstations and Macintoshes, etc.  For these people, GIF is already\nobsolete, as it cannot represent an image to the full capabilities of their\ndisplay.  JPEG images can drive these displays much more effectively.\nThus, JPEG is an all-around better choice than GIF for representing images\nin a machine-independent fashion.\n\n\n[8]  How does JPEG work?\n\nThe buzz-words to know are chrominance subsampling, discrete cosine\ntransforms, coefficient quantization, and Huffman or arithmetic entropy\ncoding.  This article's long enough already, so I'm not going to say more\nthan that here.  For technical information, see the comp.compression FAQ.\nThis is available from the news.answers archive at rtfm.mit.edu, in files\n\/pub\/usenet\/news.answers\/compression-faq\/part[1-3].  If you need help in\nusing the news.answers archive, see the top of this article.\n\n\n[9]  What about lossless JPEG?\n\nThere's a great deal of confusion on this subject.  The JPEG committee did\ndefine a truly lossless compression algorithm, i.e., one that guarantees the\nfinal output is bit-for-bit identical to the original input.  However, this\nlossless mode has almost nothing in common with the regular, lossy JPEG\nalgorithm, and it offers much less compression.  At present, very few\nimplementations of lossless JPEG exist, and all of them are commercial.\n\nSaying \"-Q 100\" to the free JPEG software DOES NOT get you a lossless image.\nWhat it does get rid of is deliberate information loss in the coefficient\nquantization step.  There is still a good deal of information loss in the\ncolor subsampling step.  (With the V4 free JPEG code, you can also say\n\"-sample 1x1\" to turn off subsampling.  Keep in mind that many commercial\nJPEG implementations cannot cope with the resulting file.)\n\nEven with both quantization and subsampling turned off, the regular JPEG\nalgorithm is not lossless, because it is subject to roundoff errors in\nvarious calculations.  The maximum error is a few counts in any one pixel\nvalue; it's highly unlikely that this could be perceived by the human eye,\nbut it might be a concern if you are doing machine processing of an image.\n\nAt this minimum-loss setting, regular JPEG produces files that are perhaps\nhalf the size of an uncompressed 24-bit-per-pixel image.  True lossless JPEG\nprovides roughly the same amount of compression, but it guarantees\nbit-for-bit accuracy.\n\nIf you have an application requiring lossless storage of images with less\nthan 6 bits per pixel (per color component), you may want to look into the\nJBIG bilevel image compression standard.  This performs better than JPEG\nlossless on such images.  JPEG lossless is superior to JBIG on images with\n6 or more bits per pixel; furthermore, JPEG is public domain (at least with a\nHuffman back end), while the JBIG techniques are heavily covered by patents.\n\n\n[10]  Why all the argument about file formats?\n\nStrictly speaking, JPEG refers only to a family of compression algorithms;\nit does *not* refer to a specific image file format.  The JPEG committee was\nprevented from defining a file format by turf wars within the international\nstandards organizations.\n\nSince we can't actually exchange images with anyone else unless we agree on\na common file format, this leaves us with a problem.  In the absence of\nofficial standards, a number of JPEG program writers have just gone off to\n\"do their own thing\", and as a result their programs aren't compatible with\nanybody else's.\n\nThe closest thing we have to a de-facto standard JPEG format is some work\nthat's been coordinated by people at C-Cube Microsystems.  They have defined\ntwo JPEG-based file formats:\n  * JFIF (JPEG File Interchange Format), a \"low-end\" format that transports\n    pixels and not much else.\n  * TIFF\/JPEG, aka TIFF 6.0, an extension of the Aldus TIFF format.  TIFF is\n    a \"high-end\" format that will let you record just about everything you\n    ever wanted to know about an image, and a lot more besides :-).  TIFF is\n    a lot more complex than JFIF, and may well prove less transportable,\n    because different vendors have historically implemented slightly different\n    and incompatible subsets of TIFF.  It's not likely that adding JPEG to the\n    mix will do anything to improve this situation.\nBoth of these formats were developed with input from all the major vendors\nof JPEG-related products; it's reasonably likely that future commercial\nproducts will adhere to one or both standards.\n\nI believe that Usenet should adopt JFIF as the replacement for GIF in\npicture postings.  JFIF is simpler than TIFF and is available now; the\nTIFF 6.0 spec has only recently been officially adopted, and it is still\nunusably vague on some crucial details.  Even when TIFF\/JPEG is well\ndefined, the JFIF format is likely to be a widely supported \"lowest common\ndenominator\"; TIFF\/JPEG files may never be as transportable.\n\nA particular case that people may be interested in is Apple's QuickTime\nsoftware for the Macintosh.  QuickTime uses a JFIF-compatible format wrapped\ninside the Mac-specific PICT structure.  Conversion between JFIF and\nQuickTime JPEG is pretty straightforward, and several Mac programs are\navailable to do it (see Mac portion of section 6A).  If you have an editor\nthat handles binary files, you can strip a QuickTime JPEG PICT down to JFIF\nby hand; see section 11 for details.\n\nAnother particular case is Handmade Software's programs (GIF2JPG\/JPG2GIF and\nImage Alchemy).  These programs are capable of reading and writing JFIF\nformat.  By default, though, they write a proprietary format developed by\nHSI.  This format is NOT readable by any non-HSI programs and should not be\nused for Usenet postings.  Use the -j switch to get JFIF output.  (This\napplies to old versions of these programs; the current releases emit JFIF\nformat by default.  You still should be careful not to post HSI-format\nfiles, unless you want to get flamed by people on non-PC platforms.)\n\n\n[11]  How do I recognize which file format I have, and what do I do about it?\n\nIf you have an alleged JPEG file that your software won't read, it's likely\nto be HSI format or some other proprietary JPEG-based format.  You can tell\nwhat you have by inspecting the first few bytes of the file:\n\n1.  A JFIF-standard file will start with the characters (hex) FF D8 FF E0,\n    followed by two variable bytes (often hex 00 10), followed by 'JFIF'.\n\n2.  If you see FF D8 at the start, but not the rest of it, you may have a\n    \"raw JPEG\" file.  This is probably decodable as-is by JFIF software ---\n    it's worth a try, anyway.\n\n3.  HSI files start with 'hsi1'.  You're out of luck unless you have HSI\n    software.  Portions of the file may look like plain JPEG data, but they\n    won't decompress properly with non-HSI programs.\n\n4.  A Macintosh PICT file, if JPEG-compressed, will have a couple hundred\n    bytes of header followed by a JFIF header (scan for 'JFIF').  Strip off\n    everything before the FF D8 and you should be able to read it.\n\n5.  Anything else: it's a proprietary format, or not JPEG at all.  If you are\n    lucky, the file may consist of a header and a raw JPEG data stream.\n    If you can identify the start of the JPEG data stream (look for FF D8),\n    try stripping off everything before that.\n\nIn uuencoded Usenet postings, the characteristic JFIF pattern is\n\n\t\"begin\" line\n\tM_]C_X ...\n\nwhereas uuencoded HSI files will start with\n\n\t\"begin\" line\n\tM:'-I ...\n\nIf you learn to check for the former, you can save yourself the trouble of\ndownloading non-JFIF files.\n\n\n[12]  What about arithmetic coding?\n\nThe JPEG spec defines two different \"back end\" modules for the final output\nof compressed data: either Huffman coding or arithmetic coding is allowed.\nThe choice has no impact on image quality, but arithmetic coding usually\nproduces a smaller compressed file.  On typical images, arithmetic coding\nproduces a file 5 or 10 percent smaller than Huffman coding.  (All the\nfile-size numbers previously cited are for Huffman coding.)\n\nUnfortunately, the particular variant of arithmetic coding specified by the\nJPEG standard is subject to patents owned by IBM, AT&T, and Mitsubishi.\nThus *you cannot legally use arithmetic coding* unless you obtain licenses\nfrom these companies.  (The \"fair use\" doctrine allows people to implement\nand test the algorithm, but actually storing any images with it is dubious\nat best.)\n\nAt least in the short run, I recommend that people not worry about\narithmetic coding; the space savings isn't great enough to justify the\npotential legal hassles.  In particular, arithmetic coding *should not*\nbe used for any images to be exchanged on Usenet.\n\nThere is some small chance that the legal situation may change in the\nfuture.  Stay tuned for further details.\n\n\n[13]  Does loss accumulate with repeated compression\/decompression?\n\nIt would be nice if, having compressed an image with JPEG, you could\ndecompress it, manipulate it (crop off a border, say), and recompress it\nwithout any further image degradation beyond what you lost initially.\nUnfortunately THIS IS NOT THE CASE.  In general, recompressing an altered\nimage loses more information, though usually not as much as was lost the\nfirst time around.\n\nThe next best thing would be that if you decompress an image and recompress\nit *without changing it* then there is no further loss, i.e., you get an\nidentical JPEG file.  Even this is not true; at least, not with the current\nfree JPEG software.  It's essentially a problem of accumulation of roundoff\nerror.  If you repeatedly compress and decompress, the image will eventually\ndegrade to where you can see visible changes from the first-generation\noutput.  (It usually takes many such cycles to get visible change.)\nOne of the things on our to-do list is to see if accumulation of error can\nbe avoided or limited, but I am not optimistic about it.\n\nIn any case, the most that could possibly be guaranteed would be that\ncompressing the unmodified full-color output of djpeg, at the original\nquality setting, would introduce no further loss.  Even such simple changes\nas cropping off a border could cause further roundoff-error degradation.\n(If you're wondering why, it's because the pixel-block boundaries move.\nIf you cropped off only multiples of 16 pixels, you might be safe, but\nthat's a mighty limited capability!)\n\nThe bottom line is that JPEG is a useful format for archival storage and\ntransmission of images, but you don't want to use it as an intermediate\nformat for sequences of image manipulation steps.  Use a lossless format\n(PPM, RLE, TIFF, etc) while working on the image, then JPEG it when you are\nready to file it away.  Aside from avoiding degradation, you will save a lot\nof compression\/decompression time this way :-).\n\n\n[14]  What are some rules of thumb for converting GIF images to JPEG?\n\nAs stated earlier, you *will* lose some amount of image information if you\nconvert an existing GIF image to JPEG.  If you can obtain the original\nfull-color data the GIF was made from, it's far better to make a JPEG from\nthat.  But if you need to save space and have only the GIF to work from,\nhere are some suggestions for getting maximum space savings with minimum\nloss of quality.\n\nThe first rule when converting a GIF library is to look at each JPEG, to\nmake sure you are happy with it, before throwing away the corresponding GIF;\nthat will give you a chance to re-do the conversion with a higher quality\nsetting if necessary.  Some GIFs may be better left as GIFs, as explained in\nsection 3; in particular, cartoon-type GIFs with sixteen or fewer colors\ndon't convert well.  You may find that a JPEG file of reasonable quality\nwill be *larger* than the GIF.  (So check the sizes too.)\n\nExperience to date suggests that large, high-visual-quality GIFs are the best\ncandidates for conversion to JPEG.  They chew up the most storage so offer\nthe most potential savings, and they convert to JPEG with least degradation.\nDon't waste your time converting any GIF much under 100 Kbytes.  Also, don't\nexpect JPEG files converted from GIFs to be as small as those created\ndirectly from full-color originals.  To maintain image quality you may have\nto let the converted files be as much as twice as big as straight-through\nJPEG files would be (i.e., shoot for 1\/2 or 1\/3rd the size of the GIF file,\nnot 1\/4th as suggested in earlier comparisons).\n\nMany people have developed an odd habit of putting a large constant-color\nborder around a GIF image.  While useless, this was nearly free in terms of\nstorage cost in GIF files.  It is NOT free in JPEG files, and the sharp\nborder boundary can create visible artifacts (\"ghost\" edges).  Do yourself\na favor and crop off any border before JPEGing.  (If you are on an X Windows\nsystem, XV's manual and automatic cropping functions are a very painless\nway to do this.)\n\ncjpeg's default Q setting of 75 is appropriate for full-color input, but\nfor GIF inputs, Q settings of 85 to 95 often seem to be necessary to avoid\nimage degradation.  (If you apply smoothing as suggested below, the higher\nQ setting may not be necessary.)\n\nColor GIFs of photographs or complex artwork are usually \"dithered\" to fool\nyour eye into seeing more than the 256 colors that GIF can actually store.\nIf you enlarge the image, you will see that adjacent pixels are often of\nsignificantly different colors; at normal size the eye averages these pixels\ntogether to produce the illusion of an intermediate color value.  The\ntrouble with dithering is that, to JPEG, it looks like high-spatial-frequency\ncolor noise; and JPEG can't compress noise very well.  The resulting JPEG\nfile is both larger and of lower image quality than what you would have\ngotten from JPEGing the original full color image (if you had it).\nTo get around this, you want to \"smooth\" the GIF image before compression.\nSmoothing averages together nearby pixels, thus approximating the color that\nyou thought you saw anyway, and in the process getting rid of the rapid\ncolor changes that give JPEG trouble.  Appropriate use of smoothing will\noften let you avoid using a high Q factor, thus further reducing the size of\nthe compressed file, while still obtaining a better-looking output image\nthan you'd get without smoothing.\n\nWith the V4 free JPEG software (or products based on it), a simple smoothing\ncapability is built in.  Try \"-smooth 10\" or so when converting GIFs.\nValues of 10 to 25 seem to work well for high-quality GIFs.  Heavy-handed\ndithering may require larger smoothing factors.  (If you can see regular\nfine-scale patterns on the GIF image even without enlargement, then strong\nsmoothing is definitely called for.)  Too large a smoothing factor will blur\nthe output image, which you don't want.  If you are an image processing\nwizard, you can also do smoothing with a separate filtering program, such as\npnmconvol from the PBMPLUS package.  However, cjpeg's built-in smoother is\na LOT faster than pnmconvol...\n\nThe upshot of all this is that \"cjpeg -quality 85 -smooth 10\" is probably a\ngood starting point for converting GIFs.  But if you really care about the\nimage, you'll want to check the results and maybe try a few other settings.\n\n\n---------------------\n\nFor more information about JPEG in general or the free JPEG software in\nparticular, contact the Independent JPEG Group at jpeg-info@uunet.uu.net.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Since the law requires that wiretaps be requested by the Executive\nBranch and approved by the Judicial Branch, it seems clear that one\nof the key registering bodies should be under the control of the\nJudicial Branch.  I suggest the Supreme Court, or, regionally, the\nCourts of Appeal.  More specifically, the offices of their Clerks.\n\n       Courts already operate substantial record-keeping operations.  Some\nof these records are confidential.  So the concept of a court holding\ninformation in confidence in accordance with law has longstanding legal \nprecedents.  The judiciary is more immune to pressure from the executive\nbranch than any executive branch agency or contractor can be.  So judicial\ncontrol of keys is appropriate.\n\n       For the other half of the key, I suggest a unit of Congress, the\nGeneral Accounting Office.  The GAO is Congress's staff unit for keeping\ntabs on the Executive Branch, and has an excellent reputation.  It's\ncontrolled strictly by Congress; the Executive Branch has no authority\nover it.\n\n       With keys split between the Legislative and Judicial branches,\nwe might have a chance of this system working honestly.  If, of course,\na way can be found to keep the keys from being siphoned off before\nthey reach the repositories.\n\n       This should not be construed as an endorsement by me of the\nwhole Clipper concept.  But if we have to have it, splitting control\nacross all three branches of government might make it work.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"=FLAME ON\n=\n=Reading through the posts about Kirlian (whatever spelling)\n=photography I couldn't help but being slightly disgusted by the\n=narrow-minded, \"I know it all\", \"I don't believe what I can't see or\n=measure\" attitude of many people out there.\n\nWhere have you seen that attitude?\n\n=I am neither a real believer, nor a disbeliever when it comes to\n=so-called \"paranormal\" stuff; but as far as I'm concerned, it is just\n=as likely as the existence of, for instance, a god, which seems to be\n=quite accepted in our societies - without any scientific basis.\n\n=I am convinced that it is a serious mistake to close your mind to\n=something, ANYTHING, simply because it doesn't fit your current frame\n=of reference. History shows that many great people, great scientists,\n=were people who kept an open mind - and were ridiculed by sceptics.\n\nFine, jackass.  Suppose you point out even ONE aspect of Kirlian photography\nthat's not explained by a corona discharge.\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nCarl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI\/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\"We however, shall be innocent of this sin, and will pray with earnest\nentreaty and supplication that the Creator of all may keep unharmed the\nnumbers of His elect.\"\n    -St. Clement, Bishop of Rome, Letter to the Corinthians, 59.2, (c. 90 AD)\n\n\"Ignatius also called Theophorus, to the Church at Ephesus in Asia,\nwhich is worthy of all felicitation, blessed as it is with greatness by\nthe fullness of God the Father, predestined from all eternity for a\nglory that is lasting and unchanging, united and chosen in true\nsuffering by the will of the Father in Jesus Christ our God...\"\n    -St. Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch, Letter to the Ephesians, Address,\n(c 110 AD)\n\n\"We say therefore, that in substance, in concept, in orgin and in\neminece, the ancient and Catholic Church is alone, gathering as it does\ninto the unity of the one faith which results from the familiar\ncovenants .... those already chosen, those predestined by God who knew\nbefore the foundation of the world that they would be just.\"\n    -St. Clement, Patriarch and Archbishop of Alexandria, Miscellanies,\n7.17.107.3, (c 205 AD)\n\nOf course the doctrine was explained more fully later on by Sts.\nAugustine, Aquinas, etc., but the seeds were ther from the beginning.\n\n\nI think you are reading it wrong.  I say those who are not saved are not\nsaved on account of their own sins.  It is not because God did not give\nthem sufficient grace, for He does do so, in His desire that all men\nmight be saved.  However, as only some are saved - and those who are\nsaved are saved by the grace of God, \"not by works, lest any man should\nboast\" - the others are damned because of their obstinacy in refusing to\nheed the call of God.  They are damned by their own free will and\nchosing, a choice forseen by God in His causing them to be not\npredestined, but reprobated instead.\n\n\nCertainly God does not distribute grace evenly.  If He did, no one could\nhave their heart hardened (or rather, harden their heart, thus causing\nGod to withdraw His grace).  But, you are correct - the world is divided\ninto those who God knows to be saved, and those God knows to be on the\nroad to perdition.  THe key is that God knows it and we do not.  Thus,\nno one can boast in complete assurance that they are one of the elect\nand predestined.  But no one who is a Christian in good standin should\ndoubt their salvation either (that shows a lack of trust in God).\n\n\nYou must admit it is possible.  Anyway, why would you want something in\nthe hear and know, when you can recieve 100 fold in heaven?  Better to\nlay up your treasure in heaven is what Jesus said.\nThis is not to condemn the rich, but simply to point out that those who\nare rich are frequently very evil or immoral, so God must give them\ntheir blessing know, as they have chosen.  Remeber, Jesus promised\ntribulation in this world, and hatred of others because we are\nChristians.  He did not promise heaven on earth.  He promised heaven.\n\n\nNot really.  Unless you do penance here on earth, you will have to do it\nin Purgatory, as Paul pointed out (1 Corinthians 3.15).  Those with\npoorer works, though still done with good intentions, will only be saved\nthrough fire (the damned will of course go into fire immeadiately, for\nwhatever good they did was not for God but for self (dead works)).  Of\ncourse, the Church gives indulgences, has Confession, and Annointing of\nthe Sick to remove sin and the the vestiges of sin, so there is really\nlittle excuse for ending up in Purgatory - it is a last hope for the\nsomewhat lazy and careless as I said above in referring to Paul.\n\nAnd no comments were taken as flames.  You are one of the more polite\npeople I have talked to over the net.\n\nAndy Byler","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Then there are always osteopathy colleges....\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nThere's an out for him.  The announcement talked about strong cryptography\nI believe.  Specifically:\n\n\tnor is the U.S. saying that \"every\n     American, as a matter of right, is entitled to an\n     unbreakable commercial encryption product.\"\n\nEvery vendor claims his product is unbreakable -- so this was sloppy wording.\n\nI am not claiming that we private citizens should have access to the NSA's\nbest, secret algorithms.  I don't want any NSA algorithms, actually.\n\nI'll let them break my pitiful amateur algorithms -- and RSA's.\n\nAll I want is what I have already -- the ability and right to invent and use\nmy own algorithms, share them with my friends and sell them.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nOne of the responsibilities of a licensed physician is to read the medical \nliterature to keep up with changes in medical practice.  All the clamor \nover laetril resulted in the NCI spending quite a bit of money on clinical \ntrials which proved(to me anyway) that laetril was ineffective against \ncancer.  A physician who continued to use it, when better, more effective, \ntreatments are available, may deserve to be called a quack.  Anti-fungals \nare in a different class.  The big question seems to be is it reasonable to \nuse them in patients with GI distress or sinus problems that *could* be due \nto candida blooms following the use of broad-spectrum antibiotics?  Gorden \nRubenfeld, through e-mail, has assured me that most physicians recognize \nthe chance of candida blooms occuring after broad-spectrum antibiotic use \nand they therefore reinnoculate their patients with *good* bacteria to \nrestore competetion for candida in the body.  I do not believe that this is \nyet a standard part of medical practice.  He deals with critical care \npatients where fungal infection(systemic) is a real problem and just \nbecause he tries to keep *good* bacteria in his patients does not mean that \nall physicians do this.  I think that aspergillis is more likely to be \nfound in the sinus mucus membranes than is candida.  Women have been known \nfor a very long time to suffer from candida blooms in the vagina and a \nwomen is lucky to find a physician who is willing to treat the cause and \nnot give give her advise to use the OTC anti-fungal creams.  Since candida \ncolonizes primarily in the ano-rectal area, GI symptoms should be more common \nthan vaginal problems after broad-spectrum antibiotic use.\n\nThe problem we have here David is proof that GI discomfort can be caused by \na candida bloom.  The arguement is that without proof, no action is \nwarrented.\n\nMedicine has not, and probalby never will be, practiced this way.  There \nhas always been the use of conventional wisdom.  A very good example is \nkidney stones.  Conventional wisdom(because clinical trails have not been \ndone to come up with an effective prevention), was that restricitng the \nintake of calcium and oxalates was the best way to prevent kidney stones \nfrom forming.  Clinical trials focused on drugs or ultrasonic blasts to \nbreakdown the stone once it formed.  Through the recent New England J of \nMedicine article, we now know that conventional wisdom was wrong, \nincreasing calcium intake is better at preventing stone formation than is \nrestricting calcium intake.\n\nThe conventional wisdom in animal husbandry has been that animals need to \nbe reinnoculated with *good* bacteria after coming off antibiotic therapy.\nIf it makes sense for livestock, why doesn't it make sense for humans \nDavid?  We are not talking about a dangerous treatment(unless you consider \nyogurt dangerous).  If this were a standard part of medical practice, as \nGordon R. says it is, then the incidence of GI distress and vaginal yeast \ninfections should decline.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nFrom the FAQ:\n\nSubject:  96)! What is this link problem with libXmu on SunOS 4.1.[23]?\n\n        In SunOS 4.1.2 Sun fixed a shared-library bug in ld which conflicts\nwith the way X builds the shared Xmu library, causing these symbols, notably,\nto be undefined when building some X11 clients:\n        _get_wmShellWidgetClass\n        _get_applicationShellWidgetClass\nCompiling \"-Bstatic -lXmu -Bdynamic\" appears to work.\n\nTo solve the problem if you are using OpenWindows 3.0 (X11R4-based Xt), please\ncontact your local Sun office and request the following patches:\n\nPatch i.d.      Description\n100512-02       4.1.x OpenWindows 3.0 libXt Jumbo patch\n100573-03       4.1.x OpenWindows 3.0 undefined symbols when using\n                        shared libXmu\n\n[Greg Earle, earle@Sun.COM; 7\/92]\n\nA source patch for use with the MIT X11R4 libraries was developed by Conrad\nKimball (cek@sdc.boeing.com); it retrofits into R4 some fixes made in R5 to\nget around this problem. The patch is on export in [1\/93]\n        contrib\/X11R4_sunos4.1.2_patch_version3.Z\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n{Stuff Deleted}\n\n\n\n\n{Stuff Deleted}\n\n\n{More Stuff Deleted}\n\n\t\n\tMy neighbor runs a Viper(R) distributorship and installs them on all\nSaturns sold in my area (Anne Arundel County, MD).  He has an SC with the\nViper voice alarm installed.  The alarm does everything, turn on the car, \nthe radio, the heater, roll down windows, unlock the doors...  The alarm goes\noff more frequently on hot days when a person walks by.  It gets sensitive up\nto about 5 feet in 85degree heat.  It isn't as bad as convetional siren alarms,\nbecause it doesn't continue to wail, it just says \"Protected by Viper, please\nstand back!\"  And shuts up...  (mainly because the person walks away \nbefuddled!!!\")\n\n\t\t\t","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Does anyone know where to get a schematic for a micro stepping circuit?\nAny help would be appreciated.\nmcole@nmsu.edu\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"After a tip from Gary Crum (crum@fcom.cc.utah.edu) I got on the Phone\nwith \"Pontiac Systems\" or \"Pontaic Customer Service\" or whatever, and\ninquired about a rumoured Production Hold on the Formula Firebird and\nTrans Am.  BTW, Talking with the dealer I bought the car from got me\nnowhere.  After being routed to a \"Firebird Specialist\", I was able\nto confirm that this is in fact the case.\n\nAt first, there was some problem with the 3:23 performance axle ratio.\nShe wouldn't go into any details, so I don't know if there were some\nshipped that had problems, or if production was held up because they\nsimply didn't have the proper parts from the supplier.  As I say, she\nwas pretty vague on that, so if anyone else knows anything about this,\nfeel free to respond.  Supposedly, this problem is now solved.\n\nSecond, there is a definate shortage of parts that is somehow related\nto the six-speed Manual transmission.  So as of this posting, there is\na production hold on these cars.  She claimed part of the delay was\nnot wanting to use inferior quality parts for the car, and therefore\nhaving to wait for the right high quality parts...  I'm not positive\nthat this applies to the Camaro as well, but I'm guessing it would.\n\nCan anyone else shed some light on this?\n\nChris S.\n-- \n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nChris Silvester      | \"Any man capable of getting himself elected President\nchriss@sam.amgen.com |  should by no means be allowed to do the job\"\nchriss@netcom.com    |   - Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"[...etc...]\n\n\nI am becoming increasingly convinced that most of us take Paul's illustration\nabout one body \/ many parts far too narrowly. It is easy to say that the one\nbody represents a particular sect of Christianity (generally our own), and\nthe parts are clearly the various offices of ministry. There is a place for\nthat. But having met people who are walking closeely with God in a wide\nvariety of doctine - Catholic, Protestant, liberal, conservative, Orthodox,\netc. - I am willing to encompass a wide spectrum of views within the\ncontext of the 'body of Christ.' And I am equally sure that one day, after\nwe shug off this mortal coil, when we no longer see through a glass darkly\nbut see clearly, face to face, we will all be ashamed at some of the things\nwe held as truth. We ought all fellowship, worship, and serve where we are\ncalled, and understand that where we are called may not be where everyone\nelse is called.\n\nOne of the fathers of the reformation (help me out - can't recall the name)\nput it quite succiently:\n\n\tIn essentials, unity.\n\tIn nonessentials, liberty.\n\tIn all things, charity.\n\nWhile I agree with Lewis (Mere Christianity) that calling oneself a Christian\nimplies some basic, fundamental standards of belief if the word is to mean\nanything at all, I think most of us define the bounds of essentials a bit\ntoo broadly, deny the place for liberty in questionable issues near those\nbounds, and ignore the requirements of charity all together. \n\nMe? I attend a Vineyard church, speak in tongues, am effectively an\ninerrantist, though I'll grant some inaccuracy in translation, am moderately\npre-mill, and evangelical. But, I'm not ready to damn those who use icons,\nsay mass in latin, uphold the Virgin Mary (though I really don't believe\nthat she was sinless), vote on Church membership, or insist on baptism for\nsalvation. Of course, I think my doctine is pretty close to the truth -\nwhy would I follow it if I believed something else was closer to the truth?\nBut my understanding of the reality of a walk with Christ is continually\nevolving as I spend more and more time walking with Him, studying His word,\nand fellowshiping with others in the (often extended) family. \n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nI read, much of the night, and go south in the winter.                    \n  --T.S. Eliot, The Waste Land                                            \n..............................................................................\ns.w. marlatt, <><  &  *(:-)               Prov. 25.2\nUniversity of Colorado:                   marlatt@spot.Colorado.edu  492-3939\nNational Center for Atmospheric Research: marlatt@neit.cgd.ucar.edu  497-1669","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nDunno, the newpaper article I read didn't say (I was wondering the same\nthing).  I rather doubt it... \n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Hey! If you can get it together, I'm all for it! I too am one of the poor\n(a college student) Get a bank account set aside, and set aside a big ass\ndata base and you will get my contribution. I'm setting aside as of now 10$ \na month. Not a slew of cash to be sure, but it's the best I can do. Let me\nknow what you guys come up with. I'm sure as hell not going anywhere.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nWell, I'll avoid your question for now (got some learnin' to do) with a\npromise to come back with more info when I can find it.  I _do_ know that\nBATSE is the primary instrument in the development of the all-sky map of\nlong-term sources.  Given that fact, and the spacecraft attitude knowledge\nof approx. 2 arcmin, we might be able to figure out how well BATSE can\ndetermine the location (rotational) of a Gamma Ray burster from knowledge\nof the all-sky map's accuracy.  PR material for the other three instruments\ngive accuracies on the order of \"fractions of a degree\", if that's \nany help.\n\nSpeaking of GRO, the net-world probably was happy to see that the preps\nfor orbit adjust appear to be going well.  Our branch guy who's helping\nout says that things have gone smoothly with the iso-valve preps and the\nburns will take place in mid-June.\n\nAnyway, I'm off to find out more.  'Be back when I get some info.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n  Right on Keith, err, Kent.  \n\n  Whadda you mean, you didn't see the smiley?\n\n\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\ \n\nBob Beauchaine bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM \n\nThey said that Queens could stay, they blew the Bronx away,\nand sank Manhattan out at sea.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nRon, you are absolutely right.  Not all kidney stones have calcium and not \nall calcium stones are calcium-oxalate.  But the vast majority are calcium-\noxalate.  Calcium is just one piece of the puzzle.  I cited that NEJM article \nas a way of pointing out to some of the physicians in this group that \nconventional wisdom is used in medicine, always has been and probably \nalways will be.  If one uses conventional wisdom, there is a chance that \nyou will be wrong.  As long as the error is not going to cause a lot of \ndamage, what's the big deal(why call a physician who gives anti-fungals to \nsinus suffers or GI distress patients a quack?).\n\nOn the kidney stone problem.  I'd want a mineral profile run in a clinical \nchemistry lab.  Balance is much more important than the dietary intake of \ncalcium.  I know that you use an electrical conductance technique to \nmeasure mineral balance in the body.  I know that you don't think that the \nserum levels for minerals are very useful(I agree).  If I can get a good \nnutritional assessment lab setup where I can actually measure the tissue \nreserve for minerals, I'd like to do a collaborative study with you to see \nhow your technique compares with mine.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":": \n: >It's quite possible that a buyer and seller will both\n: >trust some third party more than either trust the other, and\n: >will desire the moderation of that third party.  But if a random\n: >third party assumes the right to interfere in a transaction contarary\n: >to the wishes of the primary participants, odds are pretty good the\n: >results will be detrimental.\n: \n: So we try to ensure that the process of deciding whether to introduce\n: third parties isn't random.  As Steve said above, there are examples\n: where third parties *are* less ignorant or corrupt than the two\n: primary parties; should this knowledge not be able to help?\n: \nA third party should be able to use persuasion to sway the transaction.\nIf, on the other hand, we condone the use of force or threat of violence \nby the third party, then we are in trouble.  A fourth party could say \nthat it knows better than parties 1, 2, and 3.  And a fifth party... and \nso on.  Who wins?  The one that can use the force or threat of force the\nbest.  In other words \"Might makes right.\"  Let's abandon such\naggressive tactics and work from voluntary cooperation and respect from \nothers.  That is what libertarians want.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n   Another pair of suggestions:\n   1. Remove the Balk rule.  It is the runners responsibility to stay \"safe\"\n      no matter what the pitcher does.\n\n   2. If a pitcher throws to an occupied base more than X time (X = 3 to 5)\n      without successfully picking off the runner, the runner advances a base\n      as if walked.\n\nThis last suggestion will probably increase the number of stolen bases\nconsiderably.  Suppose the pitcher uses up (N-1) of his N pick-off\nattempts.  The runner can probably stretch his lead off the base,\ngiven that there will be extra pressure on the pitcher to get it\nright this time.\n\nWould this suggestion apply to pick-off attempts per pitch, per\nbatter, or per base runner (on the same base)?\n\n\n--\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nDr. Edward J. Baranoski           \nMIT Lincoln Laboratory             \"It's got to be the going,\nRm. J-118D, PO Box 73                 not the getting there that's good\"\nLexington, MA 02143                        --Harry Chapin, from \"Greyhound\"\n(617)981-0480","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Does System 7.X support all SCSI CD ROM drives?  Or are specific drivers\nneeded for each different make\/model?\n\nSpecifically, I'm looking at getting a NEC CDR-25, mainly because they\nare cheap.  I know its a slow drive, but multimedia isn't my interest.\nI mainly want it for extracting software distributed on CD.\nWill I need to get a specific driver to use this drive on a Mac?\n\n\nthanks...Charles\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Anyone have a price quote\/vendor for the vx to centris 650 upgrade?\nI've been quoted a price of $2401 till August 15th after which it will\ncost $2732.  This of course doesn't include the trade-in rebate of\n$1300 for the vx board.  Thus for $1101 one gets a Centris 650, 8 meg\nonboard with both the FPU and Ethernet.  Anyone else have any info?\nThis price is from the University of Illinois micro-order center, are\nthere any other vendors who offer similar prices?\n\n\njohann","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Subject: Re: PLEASE! SHOW UP IN WASHINGTON DC FOR BOSNIA (MAY 15th)\nFrom: Nick Jovanovic, jovanovic-nick@yale.edu\nDate: 12 May 1993 17:19:43 -0400\n\nNo, I'm not claiming 2,000,000 have been killed.  We are in the middle of\nthe genocide process that Mr. Major has given yet another \"green light\"\nto.  Mladic seems to have most of what he wants, but Boban is just\ngetting his appetite whetted. Because Mladic refuses to allow\ninternational observers to inspect mass-grave sites and killing centers\nin places like Foca, Brcko, and Visegrad, it will be years before we have\nan accurate account of the number killed. \n\nIn practical terms, it would be impossible to kill all 2,000,000.  There\njust isn't the kind of machinery of crematoria and gas chambers and\ntransportation lines that the Nazis took 8 YEARS to develop.  And\nremember, the Nazis killed minorities in the countries they occupied.  To\nactually kill 42% of the population requires extreme genocidal\norganization.   \n\nBut I do claim that the goal of the genocide is the systematic\nannihilation of Bosnian Muslim culture, by killing as many as is\nfeasible, by rape, by torture, by the demolition of mosques, libraries,\nand culture artificts, the burning and renaming of villages, the shelling\nof civilians.  So that there won't be any of the 2,000,000 or so Muslims\nwhose lives have not been shattered by the genocide, though they still\nmay be alive.\n\nAnd Mr. Major not only finds this acceptable, he helps it along by making\nsure that the victims don't have arms to defend themselves.\nMike.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\nExactly...\n\nI didn't want to mess with tga or rle.  So I wrote the following script. \nAll you need is the very standard set of pbm utilities. \n\nThis script is a .pov to .jpg converter.  Just run it like this:\n\n  pov2jpg 1280 1024 fred.pov \n\nYou will need to modify the path's in the script to reflect where you put\npovray and its include files.  If you have a problem with disk space, you\ncan use named pipes instead of temporary files.\n\nI hope you find it useful...\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n#!\/bin\/sh\n\nif [ $# -lt 3 ] ; then\n  echo \"usage:  $0 width height sourcefile.pov other_options\"\n  exit\nfi\n\nwidth=$1\nheight=$2\ndatafile=$3\nshift 3\n\n#basedatafile=`echo $datafile | sed -e \"s\/\\(.*\\)\\.pov\/\\1\/\"`\n\nthedatafile=`basename $datafile` \nbasedatafile=`basename $datafile .pov` \ndirdatafile=`dirname $datafile` \n\ncd $dirdatafile\n\/afs\/rnd.sas.com\/u\/sherman\/pov\/povsrc\/build\/povray \\\n  +l\/afs\/rnd.sas.com\/u\/sherman\/pov\/povscn\/include \\\n  +o\/tmp\/data$$ +w${width} +h${height} +fr +i${thedatafile} $*\n\necho \" \"\nrawtopgm $width $height < \/tmp\/data$$.grn > \/tmp\/green$$\nrawtopgm $width $height < \/tmp\/data$$.red > \/tmp\/red$$\nrawtopgm $width $height < \/tmp\/data$$.blu > \/tmp\/blue$$\nrgb3toppm \/tmp\/red$$ \/tmp\/green$$ \/tmp\/blue$$ | cjpeg > ${basedatafile}.jpg \nrm \/tmp\/red$$ \/tmp\/green$$ \/tmp\/blue$$ \/tmp\/data$$.grn \/tmp\/data$$.red \\\n   \/tmp\/data$$.blu\necho \"Wrote output to ${basedatafile}.jpg\"\n\n---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\tGive me a call when you build a working model. \n\n\tThen we'll talk stock options.\n---\n\nPrivate note to Jennifer Fakult.\n\n        \"This post may contain one or more of the following:\n         sarcasm, cycnicism, irony, or humor. Please be aware \n         of this possibility and do not allow yourself to be \n         confused and\/or thrown for a loop. If in doubt, assume\n         all of the above.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"FOR SALE\n\n    FTP software, Inc.\n\n    PC\/TCP (Networking Software for DOS) Version 2.04  (***)\n\n      with LAN driver for 3c503 cards, others you can get from FTP itself,\n           serial numbers, orignal diskettes.,\n           TCP\/IP telnet\/ftp\/ping\/lpr\/finger   etc....","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"There is no data to show chromium is effective in promoting weight loss.  The\n few studies that have been done using chromium have been very flawed and inher\nently biased (the investigators were making money from marketing it).\n  Theoretically it really doesnt make sense either. The claim is that chromium\nwill increase muscle mass and decrease fat.  Of course, chromium is also used t\no cure diabetes, high blood pressure and increase muscle mass in athletes(just\nas well as anabolic steroids). Sounds like snake oil for the 1990's :-)\n On the other hand, it really cant hurt you anywhere but your wallet, and place\nbo effects of anything can be pretty dramatic...\n\n                                    -Paul\n     ----------------------------------------------------------\n    |  Paul Sovcik, Pharm.D. U of Illinois College of Pharmacy |\n    |                                                          |\n    |    Email- U18183@UICVM.UIC.EDU                           |\n    |                                                          |","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nSperm deposited near the entrance of the vagina has been known to cause\npregnancy, even in the presence of a hymen. I doubt that sperm could make \nit through a layer of cloth then find the right path to a waiting ovum,\nbut it might be possible.\n\nSo, it is possible for a woman to be both virgin and pregnant.\nAlso, some hymens are sufficiently loose to allow near-normal intercourse\nwithout rupturing. The problem when investigating these phenomenae is,\nof course, getting an honest account of what exactly happened.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nThe answer is - they're stupid.  Seriously, I think you're right\non the money; I've never understood the preoccupation with making\nsure a rotation has left-handed starters.  The only time it makes\nsense to me is when you have an unbalanced schedule and your main\nrival(s) is loaded with lefthanded hitters.  Other than that, I think\nyou're completely right.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Post all you want, foreigner.  We'd rather hear from you\nthan those \"I'll support the fascist who writes the\nhecks for my salary\" .edu site types!\n\nShould you expect the Police to come in and\nassault you, lay siege and refuse to help when they\n(yes, let's give them the benefit of the doubt)\naccidently burn down your ranch home?  Even though\ney have emergency vehicles nearby?\n\nIs this a proper response when you just keep to yourself?\nEven if you DON'T hurt anyone?  And you\n're cooperative with cops when you occasionally come out?","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\nWell then given your definition of \"best\" is it not conceivable that\nAlfredo Griffin could bring something to a team that that team needs\nto win while Larkin might not have that something the team needs?\nWould Griffin then be better than Larkin?\n \n\n\nNo, I am not trying to define the quality of an individual, at least not\nfor the purpose of ranking them.  Toronto won with Olerud.  They might\nhave won with Fielder.  They might not have won with Thomas.  Detroit\nmight have won with Thomas.  Chicago might have won with Fielder.  You\ncan't rank these individuals.  You can only look at who might contribute\nmore to the team effort, which is winning the WS.  Thomas could not\nhave contributed to that goal any more than Olerud so I cannot say that\nOlerud is less of a player. \n \n-- ","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"   \n     What a lie..!!??\n\n     Ask the victims of the Nazis.\n     Don't take the Bosnian muslims' word for it.\n     Ask the Holoucost survivors who helped them, you will hear that\n     the Bosnian muslims (among others) helped them.\n\n     I also do object to the term ethnic cleansing, since what is happening\n     in Bosnia is not ethnic cleansing, they all have the same ethnicity,\n     what is different is religion. they are Orthodox christians, Catholic \n     christians, and Muslims.\n\n     It's religious cleansing.\n\n     Also watching people being rounded up and slaughtered by the slitting of \n     the throat, raped collectively and systematically, driven out of their\n     homes by the millions (!!!!), tortured in concentration camps, maimed\n     and ..... does indeed amount to moral rape.\n\n     Nothing in the history justifies what's happening.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Hallo !\n\nebosco@us.oracle.com wrote on 28.04.93\nabout : emm386 and windows\n\n\ne>Von : ebosco@us.oracle.com (Mi, 28.04.93 18:03)\ne>Name: Eric Bosco\n\n[...]\ne>Should I use emm386 or should I remove it from my config.sys?\n\nBasically:\nWindows prefers extendend memory instead of expanded (more work to do for Win)\nand if no application desperatly needs EMS, you should leave emm386\nwith a \"REM\" in your config.sys.\n\nBye,\n    Chris\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Teflon? A contribution from the space program? Since the French were using\nTeflon on household items in the early 1950's, it is unlikely that it was\ninvented by NASA. As for pacemakers and calculators, again those are\nanecdotally connected with NASA.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"As distributed, twm thinks everything with three or more colormap cells must\nbe a colour screen.  Here's a patch to have it use the screen's visual class.\n\n*** twm.c.DIST\tWed May 12 14:56:55 1993\n--- twm.c\tWed May 12 15:47:53 1993\n***************\n*** 343,352 ****\n--- 343,384 ----\n  \n  \tScr->XORvalue = (((unsigned long) 1) << Scr->d_depth) - 1;\n  \n+ #ifdef oldCode\n  \tif (DisplayCells(dpy, scrnum) < 3)\n  \t    Scr->Monochrome = MONOCHROME;\n  \telse\n  \t    Scr->Monochrome = COLOR;\n+ #else\n+ \t{\tXVisualInfo template;\n+ \t\tXVisualInfo *visualInfo;\n+ \t\tint nitems;\n+ \n+ \t\ttemplate.visual = DefaultVisual(dpy, scrnum);\n+ \t\ttemplate.visualid = XVisualIDFromVisual(template.visual);\n+ \t\ttemplate.screen = scrnum;\n+ \t\tvisualInfo = XGetVisualInfo(dpy, VisualIDMask|VisualScreenMask,\n+ \t\t\t\t&template, &nitems);\n+ \t\tif (nitems == 1) {\n+ \t\t\tswitch (visualInfo->class) {\n+ \t\tcase StaticColor:\n+ \t\tcase PseudoColor:\n+ \t\tcase TrueColor:\n+ \t\tcase DirectColor:\n+ \t\t\t\tScr->Monochrome = COLOR;\n+ \t\t\t\tbreak;\n+ \n+ \t\tdefault:\tScr->Monochrome = MONOCHROME;\n+ \t\t\t\tbreak;\n+ \t\t\t}\n+ \t\t}\n+ \t\telse {\n+ \t\t\t(void) fprintf(stderr,\n+ \t\t\t\t\t\"%d Visual match(es), assuming mono\\n\",\n+ \t\t\t\t\tnitems);\n+ \t\t\tScr->Monochrome = MONOCHROME;  \/* assume *\/\n+ \t\t}\n+ \t}\n+ #endif\n  \n  \t\/* setup default colors *\/\n  \tScr->FirstTime = TRUE;\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"When I was a school boy, my biology teacher told us of an incident\nin which a couple were very passionate without actually having\nsexual intercourse.  Somehow the girl became pregnent as sperm\ncells made their way to her through the clothes via persperation.\n\nWas my biology teacher misinforming us, or do such incidents actually\noccur?","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"of  \nthier\n\nEloquently, if somewhat shrilly, put.  \n\n\nWell, why not?\n\n\nYou have a way with words.  And you sure get shrill on cue.\n\nJim\n--\njmd@handheld.com","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"                                                           ^^-- name?\n\nOther than it tells quite a lot about the Man himself. \n\n\nAre you the spokesman for \"most people?\"\n\n\nThat you don't recognize the Biblical commentary used.  Those in the\nchurch know the language though, and have no such excuse.  \n\n\nYou missed the point -- which is that the Prophets, the Psalms, and \nRevelation, all together, provide a very rich view of a very special\nevent -- a wedding.\n\n\nHow are you able to make such a conclusion?  Please note, that the\nfirst part of Revelation makes it clear that the address is to those\nin the church. That said, it doesn't hurt to try to see what the \nprophecies are ahead of time -- for those outside the church.\n\n\nSo you say. It should be interesting to see what the investigators \nconclude, and what the final judgments are.\n\n\nSo much for war and government eh.\n\n\nVery glad you asked, since I goofed -- it should be Philippian 1:14-19: \n(here from NIV)\n\n\tBecause of my chains, most of the brothers in the Lord\n\thave been encouraged to speak the word of God more\n\tcourageously and fearlessly.\n\n\tIt is true that some preach Christ out of envy and \n\trivalry, but others out of good will. The latter do so\n\tin love, knowing that I am put here for the gospel. \n\tThe former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not\n\tsincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for\n\tme while I am chains. But what does it matter? \n\n\tThe important thing is that in every way, whether from\n\tfalse motives or true, Christ is preached. And because\n\tof this I rejoice.\n\t\nMy comment stems from the realization that we who love the Lord, are\nhuman and imperfect. Whatever we \"preach,\" no matter how eloquent, or\nhow corrupted -- is of little difference. Those who know the Master's\nvoice will recognize Him -- a gem-stone amidst rock. Such is also the \nlesson of the \"stumblingblock.\" For those who have an ear to hear. \t","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nWhat's that supposed to mean?\n\nShe's 80 lbs.\n\nUnderstand english? 1\/2 ;)\n\nShe let wind break cause I fed her cheap food, and not\nthe same thing every time.  So she had to \"adjust\" to\neach different brand for a while.\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Source: Channel 4 News at 19.00, Monday 2 March 1992.\n2 French journalists have seen 32 corpses of men, women and children \nin civilian clothes. Many of them shot dead from their heads as close \nas less than 1 meter.\n\nSource: BBC1 Morning news at 07.37, Tuesday 3 March 1992.\nBBC reporter was live on line and he claimed that he saw more than 100\nbodies of Azeri men, women and children as well as a baby who are shot\ndead from their heads from a very short distance.\n\nSource: BBC1 Morning news at 08:12, Tuesday 3 March 1992.\nVery disturbing picture has shown that many civilian corpses who were \npicked up from mountain. Reporter said he, cameraman and Western \nJournalists have seen more than 100 corpses, who are men, women, \nchildren, massacred by Armenians. They have been shot dead from their \nheads as close as 1 meter. Picture also has shown nearly ten bodies \n(mainly women and children) are shot dead from their heads. Azerbaijan \nclaimed that more than 1000 civilians massacred by Armenian forces.\n\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nYou might as well have.  You certainly would not have been in error if\nyou would have.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nAnd I thought I knew a lot about serial devices.  Perhaps I should just\nkeep my big mouth shut.  Sorry.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nI tried the AutoFom stuff on my 1991 Saturn SC, and was so disappointed with it\nthat I returned it for a refund.  I polished the car for 2 hours and couldn't\nremove the swirl marks\/thin film that was all over the finish.  It also\nattracted more dirt than without the stuff.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Perry> NNTP-Posting-Host: wswiop15.win.tue.nl\n\n\n\nPerry> Perhaps you should try nic.funet.fi instead of funet.fi ??!?!?\n\nAnother possibility is, that you did not give your email address as password\nfor the anonymous account. If you that, you see following message:\n\n230-\n230-You entered an invalid\/inpropable password, and are now accessing\n230-restricted subset of files.    Please read README for more information.\n230-We have special access features, see file README\n230 It was last updated Tue Apr 13 23:45:09 1993 - 9.4 days ago\n\nThis can happen, if your terminal emulator does not generate the '@'\ncharacter as you think (it is hard to see, since passwords are not echoed..).","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nAs the heading indicates, it is impossible for me to fathom why Barry is not\nbatting 4th for the Giants behind Will Clark.  Barry is such an awesome and\nconsistent hitter -- definitely the best in the National League.  IMHO, to \nhave Williams, a streaky hitter (and not really a clutch hitter) batting\n4th ahead of Bonds is simply an injustice to the Giants and fans of the\nGiants.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Does anyone have one of these that would care to share\nsome information on?  I concerned about the turbo.  \nHow reliable is it?  How's the gas milage.\n\nPlease responde to me, not here.\n\nThank you.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"With the recent demise of the Chicago Blawkhawks (much to my delight) I\nnoticed their 8 (?) game playoff losing streak (4 to the Pens last year, and\nnow 4 to the Blues) and I am wondering what the NHL record for consecutive\nlosses is, if there even is one...\n\nI'm pretty sure that the Hawks have at least a 9 game losing  streak, since\nthey've had to have lost a series since their last championship (whenever that\nwas)\n\nBasically, I need something else to rag on my Hawks-fan friend with :)\n\nMike, the insomniaced","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"hi all, Ive applied for the class of 93 at quite a number of schools (20)\nand have gotten 13 rejects, 4 interviews and 3 no responses.\nAny one know when the heck these people send out their acceptance letters?\nAccording to the med school admissions book theyre supposed to send out\nthe number of their class in acceptances by mid March. Whats going on... I\nam losing my sanity checking my mailbox every day.\n\nAlso does anyone have some useful alternatives in case i dont get in, i\nkind of looked into Chiropractic and Podiatry but they really dont\ninterest me. Thanks.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"garrod@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (David Garrod) writes...\n\n\n\n\n\tIt was on CBS yesterday. The explanation is reasonable enough.\n\tThen again, if the fire was accidental, why didn't more\n\tpeople get out?\n\n\n\tThat's true. I think there were several Australians in the \n\tgroup as well.\n\n                  _____  _____\n                  \\\\\\\\\\\\\/ ___\/___________________\n  Mitchell S Todd  \\\\\\\\\/ \/                 _____\/__________________________\n________________    \\\\\/ \/ mst4298@zeus._____\/.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'_'_'_\/\n\\_____        \\__    \/ \/ tamu.edu  _____\/.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'_'_\/\n    \\__________\\__  \/ \/        _____\/_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_\/\n                \\_ \/ \/__________\/\n                 \\\/____\/\\\\\\\\\\\\\n \t\t\t \\\\\\\\\\\\","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nThis topic was beaten to death a year or so ago.\n\nThe concrete is not the problem. \n\nLead-acid batteries often fail from disuse (not being charged for a long\ntime), but there's no way the concrete floor could be the cause of the\nproblem.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nWhen I need a kick-butt God, or when I need assurance of the reality\nof truth, I pray to God the Father.\n\nWhen I need a friend, someone to put his arm around me and\ncry with me, I pray to Jesus.\n\nWhen I need strength or wisdom to get through a difficult situation,\nI pray for the Holy Spirit.\n\nI realize that the above will probably make some people cringe,\nbut what can I say? I think the doctrine of the trinity is\nan attempt to reconcile Jesus being God and being distinct from\nGod, as described in the Bible.\n\nI wonder if Jesus had been a Hindu how different the wording would be.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":":\n:I got the following today from Gary Risebrough and it worked fine:\n:\n:Excerpts from mail: 29-Apr-93 Re: ol{v}wm 3 virtual keybo..\n:ITO2@aodc.gov.au (554)\n:\n\n:> I have :\n:> > OpenWindows.KeyboardCommands:   Full\n:> > OpenWindows.VirtualGrabKeys :   False\n:\n:> which seems to work.\n:\n\nWhere can I find man pages about VirtualGrabKeys resource - it doesn't\nshow up in my OpenWindows 3.0 man pages...","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I checked the FAQ on this first, and no luck..\n\n\nI need to convert the R5 Tree widget for use with xview v3.0. The\nproblem is the fact that xview uses their own event loop system, and I\nwas wondering if anyone had any tips (or converted source) on converting\nthese pups.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I'm working on my senior project here at UF (florida). The project requires fractel trees. I'm interested in either psuedo or real code; just about anything will help.\n\nPerhaps some good books on the subject could help too.\n\n\tmail will reach at: quartz@iriquois.eel.ufl.edu","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\\input amstex\n\\documentstyle{amsppt}\n\\pagewidth{6.5in}\n\\magnification=1200\n\\pageheight{7.5in}\n\\\n\\title {Letter to the Editor} \\endtitle\n\\author {Matthew L. Fante} \\endauthor\n\\date {April 20, 1993} \\enddate\n\\endtopmatter\n\npull back the heavens and show you my anger?! ... fear me.''  The 51 day\nstandoff between federal agents and the Branch Davidians ended on April 19\nin what appeared to be a mass suicide by fire.  Now that the multi-million\ndollar standoff is over, a few things remain: cleaning up the mess, and\nassigning blame.\n\n\\\n\nFrom the onset of the April 19 tear gas attacks by federal agents, President\nClinton already started passing the buck by saying ``Talk to the attorney\ngeneral or the FBI... I knew it was going to be done, but the decision was\n{\\it entirely theirs}.  {\\it They} made the tactical decision.'' Enter\nAttorney General Janet Reno.  After most of the Branch Davidians died,\nReno said she took ``full responsibility'' for the decision.  ``I approved\nthe plan'' she said adding that she ``did not advise him [Clinton] as to the\ndetails.''  In fact, she told Clinton that it was ``the best way to go.''\nAs the fire was roaring through the Branch Davidian's compound Clinton said\nthat he was ``deeply sadened by the loss of life'' and in the same breath that\n``the law enforcement agencies involved in the Waco siege recommended the\ncourse of action pursued today.''  Later he went on to say ``I stand by that\n[Reno's] decision.''\n\n\\\n\nHow did this all begin?  At 0930 on February 28 agents of the Bureau of\nAlcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (BATF) launched a full-scale, high-profile\nassault on the Branch Davidian's compound.  This raid was much\nmore than an assault on a group suspected of possessing illegal weapons.  The\nassault was a planned media circus used as a propaganda device of the BATF\nto show their might and just purpose.\n\n\\\n\nAt the onset of the ``no-knock'' raid, gaggles of heavily armed BATF agents\nmade their way inside the compound without identifying themselves or state\nthat they had a warrant until long after the shooting began.\nSilently, the agents made their way to the compound's buildings and started\ntheir ``search'' by charging at the buildings and throwing concussion grenades\nand ordering the cult members to come out of the buildings.\n\n\\\n\nIf unknown persons dressed in black ninja costumes and combat fatigues\nwere to attack you, throwing grenades and brandishing firearms, would you not\nassume that these people are criminals and attempt to defend yourself?  The\ntactics employed by the BATF provoked the battle.\n\n\\\n\nThe initial assualt by the BATF was not successful.  Unfortunately, lives\nwere lost on both sides.  But, had the assault been a success, the liberal\nmedia would have praised the BATF by showing the footage of BATF agents\ncarting away a bunch of gun-wielding religious nuts.  Of course, any\nviolation of the cult's rights would have been overlooked and the media\nwould proclaim America's fortune in having super-cop organizations like the\nBATF that can systematically ``take out'' terroristic groups such as the\nBranch Davidians.\n\n\\\n\nAs far as I can see, the BATF and the FBI dropped the ball - just like\nPhiladelphia did in the 1985 MOVE crisis which left 11 dead, 250 homeless,\nand a city block razed.\nIt appears that the BATF has adopted the shoot-first tactic of no-knock\nraids to execute search warrants.  Don't let the BATF convince you that\nthe no-knock raid was justified.  No-knock assaults make sense when looking\nfor, say, drugs that can easily be hidden or disposed of in a few seconds.\nThe BATF was looking for illegal weapons, not drugs that could be hidden or\nflushed down the toilet in a matter of a few seconds.  What ever happened to\n``This is the police!  You are surrounded...''?  {\\it This policy of no-knock\nraids, by federal and local agencies, should be restricted}.  Further, the use\nof military firepower against presumed innocent citizens is a very scary idea,\nand is why the Davidians were justified in using lethal force to ensure that\ntheir fourth ammendment rights [``the right of the people to be secure in\ntheir persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches\nand seizures''] are not denied.\n\n\\\n\n\\\n\n\\\n\n\\noindent Matthew L. Fante \\newline\n\\end\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n-- \n____________________________________________________________________\nMatthew Fante\nmlf3@Lehigh.EDU             For a good prime call 2^756839 - 1","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n The above statement ignores reality. The BD WERE provoked.\n\n\n\n\n Damn, Phil. You must have seen a different tape of the initial raid than\nI did. Your `doorbell' happened to include lobbing percussion grenades and\nattempting to storm the compound through the windows. I can honestly say\nI have never seen a `doorbell' that works like that.\n\n\n\n\n\n  THINK, man. The BATF are serving a warrant on someone who they feel might\n have illegal automatic weapons. If they expected, as you state, that `the B-D\n to be anything other than peaceful citizens' they could have sent one, maybe \n two agents up to the front door, knock, and attempt to serve the warrant on\n the person answering the door. Scenario one, that person lets them in to \n perform the search and no one gets hurt. Scenario two, the person answering\n the door pulls a weapon aand kills both officers. Now you have two dead BATF\n agents instead of four, the BATF knows exactly where they stand with regards\n to the BD and began to formulate a plan of action to arrest those responsible\n without harm to the innocent people\/children within the compound.\n\n\n\n\n No, the stupidity was the attempt to serve the warrant SWAT style.\n\n\n\n\n Sure, do it within the law. The BATF is there to uphold the law, not\n circumvent it to fit their needs.....\n\n\n<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>\n\n Paul R. Busta\t                                     Busta@vicki.enet.dec.com\n Salem, N.H.\n 603-894-3962","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I have a Sony 1304s whch I would like to hook up so that I get its \npower though my Quadra 800's power supply. ie, if I had an apple monitor,\nI could plug the monitor directly into the computer so that when I hit\nthe power button the keyboard, both the monitor and computer go on, and\nwhen I shut down, both go off.  Is there an extension cord type cable\nI can buy which allows me to plug my existing power cord into and then plug\nthis \"extension cable\" into my Quadra?\n\nAny thoughts and comments would be appreciated,\n\nThanks in advance,\nDerek\n\n******************************************************************************\n  DEREK FONG                           *   EMAIL: thewho@plume.mit.edu\n  Dept. of Physical Oceanography       *          thewho@darla.whoi.edu","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"A woman once told me her doctor told her that I\ncould catch, asymptomatically, her yeast infection\nfrom her, then give it back to her, causing\na relapse.\n\nProbably bogus, but if not, it's another reason to use\nlatex...","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I haven't recognized any names from previous discussions, but I do\nnotice that there are a few who blame Clinton for the actions of the\nBATF in Waco.  Unless you felt the same way about what we did under\nBush's *direct* command in Panama, it's just partisan whining.  Which is\nwhat I expect most of it to be.  I can see no way to condemn one and not\nthe other.  \n\nBut I'm sure some Limbot will tell me how killing thousands of\nPanamanian civilians to serve an arrest warrant is much better than\nallowing 80 religious fanatics to commit suicide following a botched\nattempt by the BATF to serve a search warrant.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nThe principle underlying these devices is a well establish principle in\npsychology called 'entrainment,' whereby external sensory stimuli\ninfluence gross electrical patterns of brain function.\n\nThey are 'experimental' in that people experiment with them and they\nare _not_ widely (if at all) used in medicine for therapeutic purposes.  \nGiven the exception of TENS and similar units used for external electrical \nstimulation, usually for pain relief, not really a light and sound machine.\n\nThey are _not_ experimental in the sense of a specific medical \ncategory to that effect, as with experimental drugs, as the FDA does not \nspecifically regulate medical devices in the way it does pharmaceuticals.   \n\n\nThere are few reliable studies of therapeutic or enhancement effects\nfor mind machines, other than those relaxation-related effects found with \nmeditation or self-hypnosis as well.  Reported benefits are mostly anecdotal and\nsubjective so far, so it's hard to generalize about their potential value.\n\nA pretty good general non-technical introduction to a wide variety\nof these devices may be found in \"Would the Buddha Wear a Walkman ?\"\nSome interesting background material, names of suppliers, and capsule reviews\nof specific equipment.  \n\n\nA more important question might be whether they have enough additional\nvalue to be worth investing in.  'Biofeedback' was found to be a legitimate\nand reliable effect experimentally under certain conditions, (in that\nit demonstrated that we can influence physiological processes previously \nconsidered purely autonomic) but never panned out as a particularly valuable \ntherapeutic tool because of the skill level required and the subtlety and\ntemporary nature of the effects in most cases.   Maybe someone else \nhas more, there used to be a whole mailing list devoted to mind machines,\nsomewhere on the net.\n\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\tkind regards,","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"PaintShop Pro for Windows is a fantastic product.  It can handle TIFF, GIF,\nBMP, PCX, and many other formats, displaying them and converting between\nthem.  There is a shareware version of the program; I assume it's available\nin the Windows areas of the standard anonymous FTP locations (I'd try\nftp.cica.indiana.edu).  Log in as ftp, use your username as a password,\nand look for a program called PSP101.exe or something like that.  I have\nthe registered version, and the only major difference I can detect is that\nthe unregistered version pops up a message when you start the program\nasking you to please register it.\n\nOnce again, FANTASTIC software.  Up to 24 bits, huge images, everything.\n\n-Brian\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThere are several things in ITAR which have never been tested in court. \nThe concensus appears to be:\n\nYou could be arrested as an international arms trafficker.  (You could,\nregardless of the state of the law, but there are some paragraphs which\nsuggest you would be violating the law.)\n\nIf it goes to court, the ITARs could be thrown out is incompatible with the\nFirst amendment; or the court could rule that \"software\" is \"technical\ndata\" not subject to the ITARs; or the court could rule that the\nphrase \"publicly available\" as defined in the ITARs would apply,\nmaking it only subject to requiring a general export license; or, you could\nbe prosecuted successfully for arms trafficing or espionage.  General\nconcensus among lawyers who have read the ITARs, is that one of the first\ntwo would occur.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I have a question for y'all:\n\nI'm looking at an ad for the new 3.5\" FAST SCSI-2 drives from Micropolis\nin the June, 1993, MacWorld. (I have seen similar ads for the IDE versions\nin IBM PC magazines)\n\nWell, the ad says that all three drives have a FAST SCSI-2 interface,\nbut then it says that the DTR rate for each drive is 5 megabytes\/second,\n*max*.\n\nHow can this be?  I thought that if a drive was to be FAST SCSI-2 it\nhad to have a DTR of 10megs a second?\n\n(I am assuming the 5megs\/sec claim by Micropolis is from the 512k cache.\nI admit that I would be very impressed if the drive can *read\/write* data\nat 5megs a second!)","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nWhy?  He, Reno, and the FBI got what they wanted -- a reminder of\nwho is the boss in America -- the thugs who work for the government.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Any idea on the price range of the Cyclone or the Tempest? (compared to \ncurrent line of computers, where will the new ones fall in price)\n-- \n============================================================================\n KEEPER:  Heh heh.  Stop!  What is your name?\n ARTHUR:  It is Arthur, King of the Britons.\n KEEPER:  What is your quest?\n ARTHUR:  To seek the Holy Grail.\n KEEPER:  What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?\n ARTHUR:  What do you mean?  An African or European swallow?\n KEEPER:  What?  I don't know that!  Auuuuuuuugh!\n BEDEMIR:  How do know so much about swallows?\n ARTHUR:  Well, you have to know these things when you're a king you know.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Just curious why floptical drives never seemed to catch on. Remember\nthose 21 Mb disks that look and feel like 3.5\" floppies? These drives\nare SCSI devices and can read and write both 720 Kb and 1.44\/21 Mb\ndisks. Sounds to me to be one great product for the PC market. Are the\nprices really that unaffordable compared to CD-ROMs which are currently\nnot rewritable? I know about the new rewritable CDs and expect SONY to\ndevelop the first MDs for the computer. My question is: why isn't there\nany substantial interest in developing the flopticals?\n\nJust a thought.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nThe Phillies have won two games back to back in extra innings.  Last\nnight's game was hard fought.  The game in Chicago should have been a\nblow out.  All in all these two games show a different Phillies team.\nIn past seasons they tended to always be on the short end of 1 run\ngames.  I don't know how many times I saw them losing by only 1 run.\nIf they were able to win most of those, they might have been more of\na contending team.  They are 3-0 so far in extra innings.  And of\ncourse, they are 10-3.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
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{"text":"My brother purchased baseball tickets for Texas Rangers vs Toronto\nBluejays in July, but he was unable to get vacation days to get there. \n\nIs anyone interested in purchasing the following:\n\nArlington Stadium\nArlington,Texas, Texas Rangers vs. Toronto Bluejays\n\nThursday, July 22                              Friday, July 23\n4 tickets, section 103                         \"Helmet Night\"\n$14 each                                       4 tickets, section 305\n                                               $14 each\n\nIf you want them all, the total is $112.00\n\nPlease contact me over e-mail, or directly to my brother:\n\nRandy Hollister\n19 Rosemont Lane\nStreator, IL 61364\n815\/672-5265\n\nMy brother would be eternally grateful for someone to purchase these tickets!\n\nThank you!","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nWhoa.  Think twice, now, unless you want the same standards applied to\nhollowpoints...\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I posted this May 12th:\n\n\n\n\n\tI got a few requests asking for a summary, so I'll attempt one\nhere:\n\n\n\tHere's the ones I know of:\n\n\tWind\/U\t\t- Bristol Technologies\n\n\tHunter SDK\t- Hunter Systems\n\n\tMainWin\t\t- MainSoft\n\n\tLIBWXM          - Visual Solutions\n\n\n\tHunter \n\n\tThe company is going through some big changes.  I expect\nto eventually see the Hunter SDK pop up with a new name.  At the moment, it\nis difficult to get phone calls returned and otherwise obtain info.\nHopefully they will post something about themselves once things settle down. \n\n\tVisual Solutions\n\n\tLIBWXM is a product that I just heard about.  They don't\nyet support MDI or MFC.  Libwxm was used to port VisSim, a mathematical\nmodeling package.  Does native Motif Widgets, like Wind\/U from Bristol.\nContact Carrie Lemieux at 508 392 0100 for more info.  She's very helpful.\n\n\tMainSoft\n\n\tThis translates Windows source to a Unix executable that\ncan switch off between a Windows or Quasi-Motif look and feel at\nruntime.  They skip the Xt and Xm (Motif) X toolkit levels and go\nstraight to Xlib.  They don't yet support MFC.  They're at 415 896 0708.\n\n\tBristol\n\n\tThis company that seems to be on the right track.  Wind\/U uses\nXlib\/Xt\/Xm to give a *real* Motif app.  They seem to be doing the most work\nin trying to support things like DDE, Common Dialogs, and more on the horizon.\nMy contact there is knowledgeable, responds to my email, and wrote an example\nprogram for me showing how to obtain X widgets from Windows handles.\nThey're at 203 438 6969, or you can email info@bristol.com.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nWhat would you accept as sources?  This very thing has been written\nin lots of books.  You could start with Erich Fromm's _The Dogma of Christ_.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"There is a cartridge capping upgrade for older deskjet printers\navailable from hewlett-packard.  Older original deskjet and\npossibly deskjet 500 units may have a black plastic slide with\nrubber capping components in the cartrige parking area on the right\nside (viewed from front) of the printer.  Newer printers have a\ngray or white plastic slide.  The black plastic slide can allow\nyour cartridge to dry out.  There was and may still be information\npackaged with ink cartridges explaining the situation.  HP placed a\ncoupon for a free upgrade kit to modernize old deskjets to the new\ncapping mechanism.  I did this on my printer and did indeed find\nthat the cartidges now last longer.\n\nI don't have the information handy.  I suggest contacting your\nnearest HP service center for information on obtaining the kit.\n\nHP has upgrade kits that consist of electronics and mechanical\ncomponents that vary depending on the starting level printer and\nthe level to which you wish to upgrade.  I upgraded my original\ndesket to a dekjet 500.  The kit was fairly expensive.  You are\nlikely better off selling your old printer and purchasing a new\ndeskjet 500 now that prices have declined so much.  Upgrading an\noriginal deskjet to 500 requires a fair amount of skill, but no\nsoldering.  Upgrading a deskjet plus to a 500 is involves swapping\nthe processor card and changing a few minor parts.  Contact your HP\nservice center for further information.\n\nThe PCL language used by Deskjets is considerably different from\nthe PCL used by laser printers, especially the newer laser\nprinters.  The biggest problem is dumb laser drivers that send a\nraster end command after each scan line.  This makes no material\ndifference for lasers, but causes the deskjet to print the\naccumulated raster.  As you might guess, the result is hideously\nslow printing.  The new DOS Wordperfect print deskjet drivers are\nstill guilty of this particular behavior.  From the way Wordperfect\nworks, this would not be easy to change.  Windows Wordperfect works\nefficiently unless you use the DOS drivers instead of Windows'.\n\nThe PCL4 dialect used in the Laserjet IIIP allows compression that\npermits a full page 300 dpi image to be rendered with only one\nmegabyte of memory.  An uncompressed image could be as large as\nabout 909 Kbytes, but the printer needs about 300K of memory for\nits internal house-keeping.  Laserjet IV models support banded\nprinting that allows incrmental download of the image with\ncompression in limited memory situations.  Deskjet downloadable\nfonts are not compatible with laserjet fonts.\n\nA single page from a laserjet only requires about 20 seconds.  This\nis faster than any but the most trivial printing from a deskjet\nprinter.  The presumption, of course, being that the laser printer\nhas completed its warm-up cyle.\n\nUntil ink chemistry is changed, wicking resulting in image\ndeterioration is unavoidable.  I won't use the word impossible, but\nmatching laser quality output from a deskjet printer is unlikely.\nChosing an appropriate paper type helps, but does not eliminate the\nproblem.\n\nLaser printers are more wastful of energy and consumable\ncomponents.  HP does accept return of spent toner cartridges,\nmitigating the material waste problem to a degree.  Energy waste\ncould use more work.  Warm-up times have decreased, allowing\nstand-by current consumption to be significantly reduced in the\nlaserjet IV.\n\nKyocera produces a laser print engine that employs an amorphous\nsilicon imaging drum with a replacable toner system.  The image\ndrum is good for approximately 100K copies.  It is a very nice\nprint engine.  I wish HP used the Kyocera engine.  Kyocera also has\na neat modular paper source and stacker system.\n\nThe recommended duty cycle for a deskjet is significantly lower\nthan any of HP's laser printers.  The pick-up pressure rollers are\nsubject to wear and I case confirm eventually do wear out.  The\nusual symptom is that the printer becomes reluctant to feed paper.\nThe paper feed is integrated in a transport mechanism that is a\nsingle part from HP service.  Replacement cost for the transport is\nalmost $200.  The feed rollers are not separately replacable,\nthough it would not be a difficult job for a competent technician.\nI have disassembled and reassembled the transport on my own printer.\n\nIt depends upon the application which printer is best for you.  If\nyou only print 5 or 10 pages a day and are satisfied with the\nappearance of output, the deskjet is a very good choice.  As noted,\nthe deskjet 500 is my choice for personal use.\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nI realy like this idea, it would be wonderfull to see such a \nbig bright satelite on the night sky. I will even promise to\ntry to buy whatever product it advertises to help this project.\n\nPlease write to Space Marketing and encourage this project.\nI sadly dosent have enough money to invest in it.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n--","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nMy sig has nothing to do with cockiness.  What you put in your sig has nothing\nto do with your article, as I learned back in the fall, the hard way.\n\n\nYou mean 'butt' don't you?  Not but :-)\n\n\nSure you do -- what??????????\n\n\nTwo points, one what does r.s.b.c. have to do with hockey?  Secondly, UMASS\nbeat my Quakers???  Hello!!!  Earth here, are you responding???  We're not in\nthe Atlantic 10 (or 8 whatever you wanna call it), we're in the Big 10 now!!!\nThe A-10 was too weak for my Lady Lions -- they had to go to a more challenging\nconference.  It didn't pay off as the Big East showed them a thing or too, but\nI still posted on a regular basis and tracked all the women's scores with\nreviews throughout the tournament.  It wasn't a reason to stop posting. :-)\n\n\nIt's not over yet -- if anyone has a chance to come back in 4 games, I think\nBoston can do it, but I still see Buffalo winning in 6.\n\n\nAgreed -- they're playing tremendous hockey right now.  Congatualtions on three\nstraight Buffalo.  It could very easily be 2-1 Boston, but Buffalo has come up\ntough and a little luck.  (You never see a penalty in OT that doesn't have both\nsides involved in a playoff game.  Never never never!)\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nCite source, please.\n\n\n--Mike\n\n\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nfunny, it seems to me that the stats major league and minor league handbooks,\nwhich are nothing BUT collections of statistics, are authored by \"bill james\nand stats inc. (and howe, for the minor league handbook)\".\n\nand i am not sure how the 1993 bill james player ratings book qualifies\nas a \"book with statistics\", while the elias analyst is a \"statistics book\".\nthe analyst contains more stats, sure, but it also contains more dialogue.\n\nfinally, the point was not about the word \"statistics\".  it was about\n\"money-grubbing\".  i don't see how anyone who has looked at the bill\njames player ratings book cannot consider him money-grubbing.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"2 Kenwood KS-H51 150-Watt Floor-standing speakers for sale\nLess than one year old. Brand new shape. \n\n$185.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n\nWhere are your references?  I have been unable to find studies that state\nthat chromium \"cures diabetese\".  It can reduce the amount of insulin you\nhave to take.  \"High blood pressure\" - I have never heard of this claim\nbefore.  \"... anabolic steroids\" - I have also never heard of this claim\nbefore.  Sounds like you are making things up and stretching the truth\nfor God knows what reason.  Did somebody piss you off at one time?\n\n\n\n\n\n\nI agree with you that chromium picolinate by itself isn't likely\nto make a fat person thin.  But it can be the decisive component\nof an overall strategy for long-term weight control and make an\nimportant contribution to good health.  It is important to\nexercise (11, 12) and also avoid fat calories (9, 10).\n\nChromium picolinate has shown to reduce fat and increase\nlean muscle (1, 2, 3).  I will not bore you with the\nstatistics.  You wouldn't believe these anyway.\n\nChromium Picolinate is an exceptionally bioactive source of\nthe essential mineral chromium.  Chromium plays a vital role\nin \"sensitizing\" the body's tissues to the hormone insulin.\nWeight gain in the form of fat tends to impair sensitivity\nto insulin and thus, in turn, makes it harder to lose\nweight (4).\n\nInsulin directly stimulates protein synthesis and retards\nprotein breakdown in muscles (5, 6).  This \"protein sparing\"\neffect of insulin tends to decline during low calorie diets\nas insulin levels decline, which results in loss of muscle\nand organ tissue.  By \"sensitizing\" muscle to insulin,\nchromium picolinate helps to preserve muscle in dieters\nso that they \"burn\" more fat and less muscle.  Preservation\nof lean body mass has an important long-term positive\neffect on metabolic rate, helping dieters keep off the\nfat they've lost.\n\nChromium picolinate promotes efficient metabolism by aiding\nthe thermogenic (heat producing) effects of insulin.\nInsulin levels serve as a rough index of the availability\nof food calories, so it's not at all surprising that insulin \nstimulates metabolism (4, 7, 8).  Note that I did not say\nthat chromium picolinate increases metabolism.\n\nIn summary, you need to change your life style in order to\nloose weight and stay healthy:\n\n  A. Reduce dietary fat consumption to no more than 20% of calories.\n     - Eating fat makes you fat.\n\n  B. Increase dietary fiber\n     - low in calories; high in nutrients.\n\n  C. Get regular aerobic exercise at least 3 times a week\n     - burn calories.\n\n  D. Take chromium picolinate daily\n     - lose fat; keep muscle\n\n\nReferences:\n\n1.  Kaats GR, Fisher JA, Blum K. Abstract, American Aging\n    Association, 21st Annual Meeting, Denver, October 1991.\n2.  Evans, GW. Int J Biosoc Med Res 1989; 11: 163-180.\n3.  Page TG, Ward TL, Southern LL. J Animal Sci 69, Suppl 1:\n    Abstract 403, 1991.\n4.  Felig P. Clin Physiol 1984; 4: 267-273.\n5.  Kimball SR, Jefferson LS. Diabetes Metab Rev 4: 773, 1988.\n6.  Fukugawa NK, Minaher KL, Rowe JW. et al. J Clin Invest 76:\n    2306, 1985.\n7.  Fehlmann M, Freychet P. Biol Chem 256: 7449, 1981\n8.  Pittman CS, Suda AK, Chambers JB, Jr., Ray GY. Metabolism\n    28: 333, 1979.\n9.  Danforth E, Jr. Am J Clin Nutr 41: 1132, 1985.\n10. McCarty MF. Med Hypoth 20: 183, 1986.\n11. Bielinski R, Schutz Y, Jequier E. Am J Clin Nutr 42:69, 1985.\n12. Young JC, Treadway JL, Balon TW, Garvas HP, Ruderman NB.\n    Metabolism 35: 1048, 1986.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\tYeah, but they probably included industries and educational institutions\nthat uses mostly work stations (SUNs, DEC, IBM RS600... etc etc)  Which turns\nmonitor off if left untouched for 5 min.  \n\n- Chung Yang\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\nYes, I suppose that's true.  Of course, notice I qualified with NEARLY\nevery language :-).  And there are missionaries out there who can\nspeak every imaginable language AND dialect.  But then, the fact that\nnot all languages have a WRITTEN gospel lends no credence to the \nconcept of \"pentecost\" type xenoglossolalia since most tongues occur not\nin these places of un-written language, but rather in churches full\nof people who do have a written language and a Bible in that language.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\nIf I prescribe itraconazole for a patient's sinusitis neither the AMA,\nFDA, State Licensing Board, nor ABFP will be knocking on my door to ask\nwhy.  This is a specious argument.\n\n\nAmong other things, how to evaluate new theories and treatments.\n\n\nFunny, I thought it meant \"one who fraudulently misrepresents his\nability and experience in the diagnosis and treatment of disease or\nthe effects to be achieved by the treatment he offers\" (Dorland's\n27th).  Certainly more precision than conveyed by \"chronic yeast\".\n\n\nThe inability to discriminate between fraudulent or erroneous\nrepresentations is far more frightening.  It is fraud to promote a\ntreatment where the evidence for it is either lacking or against it\nand the quacksalver knows so, or error if the honest practitioner\ndoesn't know so.  Failure to speak out against either bespeaks\nincompetency.\n\n\nMay I reply - seriously - that if the practitioners and proponents of\nnon-scientific medicine have left their minds so open that the parts\nof their brains that do critical evaluation have fallen out, they should\nlearn to edit their newsgroup headers to conform to the existing\nhierarchy and divisions.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nI don't like the term \"quack\" being applied to a licensed physician David.\nQuestionable conduct is more appropriately called unethical(in my opinion).\nI'll give you some examples.\n\n\t1. Prescribing controlled substances to patients with no \n\t   demonstrated need(other than a drug addition) for the medication.\n\n\t2. Prescribing thyroid preps for patients with normal thyroid \n\t   function for the purpose of quick weight loss.\n\n\t3. Using laetril to treat cancer patients when such treatment has \n\t   been shown to be ineffective and dangerous(cyanide release) by \n\t   the NCI.\n\nThese are errors of commission that competently trained physicians should \nnot committ but sometimes do.  There are also errors of omission(some of \nwhich result in malpractice suits).  I don't think that using anti-fungal \nagents to try to relieve discomfort in a patient who you suspect may be \nhaving a problem with candida(or another fungal growth) is an error of \ncommission or omission.  Healers have had a long history of trying to \nrelieve human suffering.  Some have stuck to standard, approved procedures,\nothers have been willing to try any reasonable treatment if there is a \nchance that it will help the patient.  The key has to be tied to the \nhealer's oath, \"I will do no harm\".  But you know David that very few \ntreatments involve no risk to the patient.  The job of the physician is a \nvery difficult one when risk versus benefit has to be weighed.  Each \nphysician deals with this risk\/benefit paradox a little differently.  Some \nare very conservative while others are more agressive.  An agressive \napproach may be more costly to the patient and carry more risk but as long \nas the motive is improving the patient's health and not an attempt to rake \nin lots of money(through some of the schemes that have been uncovered in \nthe medicare fraud cases), I don't see the need to label these healers as \nquacks or even unethical.\n\nWhat do I reserve the term quack for?  Pseudo-medical professionals.  \nThese people lurk on the fringes of the health care system waiting for the \nfrustrated patient to fall into their lair.  Some of these individuals are \nreally doing a pretty good job of providing \"alternative\" medicine.  But \nmany lack any formal training and are in the \"business\" simply to make a \nfew fast bucks.   While a patient can be reasonably assured of getting \ncompetent care when a liscenced physician is consulted, this alternative \ncare area is really a buyer's beware arena.  If you are lucky, you may find \nsomeone who can help you.  If you are unlucky, you can loose a lot of \nmoney and develop severe disease because of the inability of these pseudo-\nmedical professional to diagnose disease(which is the fortay of the \nliscened physicians).\n\nI hope that this clears things up David.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"  ^^^  ^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^ ^^^^^\nMe thinks thee dost protest too much....  1\/2 :-)\n\nHe made no allegations, and specifically gave the seller the benefit of the\ndoubt.  He simply made the net aware of the fact that many of these seats are\nstolen, so watch out and ask questions when buying.  That's good advice to\nfollow when buying _anything_ from a third party, on the net or elsewhere.\nTouchy, touchy...","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nIf the children are not being fed, whose fault is that?  You and I\nhave plenty of food on our tables while others starve.  Why is that?\nGod gave us this earth to manage.  I don't think we're doing a very\ngood job of it.  The only consolation I have for those suffering\nchildren is that they will be received into the kingdom of Heaven\nwhere they will never thirst and never hunger again.\n\nPeace be with you,\n\nMalcolm Lee  :)","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"  Do we want to 'create jobs'? or do we want jobs created that are productive\n  in our supply\/demand economy? If your answer is the former then we can\n  just round up all jobless people and pay them to build sandcastles in\n  the desert. If you answer the latter then I fail to see how another\n  bureaucracy produces anything.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Okay, the earth has a magnetic field (unless someone missed something?)\n\nOkay if you put a object in the earth magnetic field, it produces electricty..\n\nNow the question. Can you use electricity to power a space\/low earth orbit\nvehicle? and i fyou can, can you use the magnetic field of the earth to power\nit??\nCan the idea of a \"dragless\" satellite be used in part to create the electrical\nfield?\n\nAfter all the dragless satellite is (I might be wrong), a suspended between to\npilons, the the pilons compensate for drag.. I think I know what I want to say,\njust not sure how to say it..\n\nA dragless satellite sounds interestingly enough liek a generator.\n\n==\nMichael Adams, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu -- I'm not high, just jacked","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"hi guys does anyone could tell me\n at which resolution can work this monitor\n of course it support 640x480 but at 800x600 \n and 1024x768 with a cirrus card it seems\n to don't work any clues?","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I recently got a Centris 610 4\/230 on my desk. It's a vast improvement on\nmy previous machine (a IIsi 5\/40). However .....\n\nI've encountered a problem with fonts ..\n\nEntries in a Filemaker 2.0 database which looked fine when printed from my\nprevious mac using System 7.01 now look wierd !\n\nSpacing between characters has increased greatly - causing lines to be\ntruncated. I'm using plain and bold Helvetica in various sizes - the\nincrease in character spacing seems to occur for all sizes and styles. \n\nI'm using a mixture of TrueType and Fixed-Size fonts - exactly as on my\nIIsi - when things worked perfectly.\n\nWe've managed to get similar behaviour using Word 5.1.\n\nApple UK adopted their usual \"friendly\" approach and told us to call our\nlocal dealer - God help us !!\n\nAny ideas ??\n\n\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\nDr Pete Edwards\n\nDepartment of Computing Science \nKing's College\nUniversity of Aberdeen                  Tel.   +44 (0)224 272270\/96\nAberdeen, AB9 2UE                       Fax    +44 (0)224 273422\nSCOTLAND                                Email  pedwards@csd.abdn.ac.uk\n\nARTIFICIAL FLOWERS:  Pieces of plastic and metal, crudely fashioned to\n  bear a limited, superficial resemblance to real flowers, but with no\n  credible attempt to match their internal complexity in terms of form,\n  function, or behavior.\n\nARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE: Really smart computers.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
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{"text":"\nIt also goes like this:\n\nFED1: We need to listen into <mafia head\/druglord\/terrorist\/BBS sysop>'s\n      conversations but don't have probable cause for a tap.\n\nFED2: Who do we have a tap on?\n\nFED1: <some other enemy of the state>.\n\nFED2: So get the keys - we can always claim that phone's being used on the\n      tapped line.\n\nThere's got to be some way to associate an instrument with an individual or\nthe state effectively has a tap, possibly not admissible (given the War on\nDrugs exceptions to the 4\/5 ammendments, who knows) but none the less\nlistenable tap on any phone.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nI use it all day every day (maintaining our ftp site and answering mail\nvia support@qdeck.com), and I can honestly say that in the last few\nmonths I've never had my machine go down due to any sort of tcpip network\nmanager instability. (Of course, I've crashed my machine quite a few times\non purpose, during beta testing and that sort of thing, but the tcpip\nportion is quite stable...)\n\nHowever, keep in mind that DVX and the network managers are only going\nto be as stable as the software they sit on top of (so if your underlying\nnetwork kernel is flakey, you can't expect DVX to be terribly stable...)\n\n\nIt just goes as a window that has graphics drawn into it. (To vastly\nover-simplify what goes on, we just take the windows graphics API calls,\nand translate them directly to X-protocol; unfortunately, windows was\nnot really written to be network-aware, so sometimes we see a speed\npenalty when an app does something stupid, like sending a big white bitmap\nto erase something rather than just drawing a white box; fortunately,\nthat sort of thing is rare...)\n\n\nYou need to run MS windows, which Word then runs inside. You could run\nmultiple windows programs within the one WinX window, and windows has\nways to automagically start winapps when you start windows, so in practice\nit's not really a major problem. I have my system set up so that I can\nrun WinX, which automatically starts Word Full-screen (for windows), so\nI never see any part of windows but word...)\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I've caught myself doing it while on my bicycle.  Does that count?\n\nDean\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I'm looking for a pair of inline skates (aka roller blades) new or used for\nless than $60.00 including shipping.\nSize 11.\n\nStrider                     | SUNY @ Buffalo | psr@acsu.buffalo.edu\nLord Mayor, The Hill People | (716) 636 4862 | V127MHSK@ubvms.bitnet\n\n\"Son, I am able,\" she said, \"though you scare me.\"  \"Watch,\" said I, \"beloved.\"\n\n-- \nStrider                     | SUNY @ Buffalo | psr@acsu.buffalo.edu\nLord Mayor, The Hill People | (716) 636 4862 | V127MHSK@ubvms.bitnet","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":": However greatly we extoll Mary, it is quite obvious that she is in no\n: way God or even part of God or equal to God.  The Assumption of our\n: Blessed Mother, meant that because of her close identification with the\n: redemptive work of Christ, she was Assumed (note that she did not\n: ASCEND) body and soul into Heaven, and is thus one of the few, along\n: with Elijah, Enoch, Moses (maybe????) who are already perfected in\n: Heaven.  Obviously, the Virgin Mary is far superior in glorification to\n: any of the previously mentioned personages.\n\n\nAs I said, it is a provocative thought.\n\nFrom \"Answer to Job\":\n\n\tThe logical consistency of the papal declaration cannot be surpassed\n\tand it leaves Protestantism with the odium of being nothing but a\n\t_man's religion_ which allows no metaphysical representation of woman.\n\t...Protestantism has obviously not given sufficient attention to the\n\tsigns of the times which point to the equality of women.  But this\n\tequality requires to be metaphysically anchored in the figure of a\n\t\"divine\" woman, the bride of Christ.  Just as the person of Christ\n\tcannot be replaced by an organization, so the bride cannot be re-\n\tplaced by the Church.  The feminine, like the masculine, demands an\n\tequally personal representation.\n\t\tThe dogmatizing of the Assumption does not, however, according\n\tto the dogmatic view, mean that Mary has attained the status of a\n\tgoddess, although, as mistress of heaven...and mediatrix, she is \n\tfunctionally on a par with Christ, the king and mediator. At any\n\trate, her position satisfies the need of the archetype. [par. 753-4]\n\n\n: Jung should stick to Psychology rather than getting into Theology.\n\nJung made it clear that he was talking about psychology, not theology.  His\ncomments had to do with the psychological _image_ of God and its function\nin the human psyche, not about the actual existence or nature of God.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"In the New York Times on Sunday May 9th in the week in review\nsection there was a report of a group called \"Space Marketing\"\nin Atlanta, Georgia who is planning to put up a one mile wide\nreflective Earth orbiting satelite which will appear as large\nand as bright as the Moon and carry some sort of advertising.\nThere was an editorial about this in the Times the following\nTuesday.\n\nAre others as upset about this as I am?  I feel that a global\nboycott of anyone involved with such a project would be a good\nidea.  Perhaps it could be made illegal in various countries\naround the world?  Do others agree?\n\n-david\n\n[Relevant messages found on the net:]\n------------------------------------------------------------------------\nFrom: webb@tsavo.hks.com (Peter Webb)\nNewsgroups: sci.space\nSubject: Stopping the sky-vandals\nDate: 13 May 1993 21:17:22 GMT\nOrganization: HKS, Inc.\nDistribution: world\n\n\n\nIf you don't want to see Space Marketing put up orbiting billboards, write\nthem, or call them, and tell them so.  You might also write your\ncongresspeople.  Space Marketing can be reached at:\n\nAttn: Mike Lawson\nPublic Relations Dept.\nSpace Marketing\n1495 Atmbree Rd., Suite 600\nRosewell, GA 30076\n(404)-442-9682\n\n--\nPeter Webb \t\t\t\t\twebb@hks.com\nHibbitt, Karlsson & Sorensen, Inc.\t\tVoice: 401-727-4200\n1080 Main St, Pawtucket RI 02860\t\tFAX: 401-727-4208 \n\n[Alternatively, you could try to find out who their clients\n will be and tell *them* how you feel.]\n------------------------------------------------------------------------\nNewsgroups: sci.astro,sci.space,sci.misc,sci.environment,talk.environment\nFrom: klaes@verga.enet.dec.com (Larry Klaes)\nSubject: Light Pollution (Space Ads) Information\nKeywords: light pollution, advertisements\nOrganization: Digital Equipment Corporation\nDate: Thu, 13 May 1993 20:45:36 GMT\n\n        Dave Crawford (crawford@noao.edu), Executive Director of the \n    International Dark-Sky Association (IDA), sent me information on where \n    you can write in regards to the proposed \"Billboards in the Sky\" and\n    asked me to post it:\n\n        Karen Brown\n        Center for the Study of Commercialism\n        1875 Connecticut Avenue, Suite 300\n        Washington, D.C. 20009-5728\n        U.S.A.\n\n        Telephone:  202-797-7080\n        Fax:        202-265-4954\n\n        Please note that I have no involvement whatsoever with the CSC.\n\n        Larry Klaes  klaes@verga.enet.dec.com\n\t\t     or - ...!decwrl!verga.enet.dec.com!klaes\n    \t\t     or - klaes%verga.dec@decwrl.enet.dec.com\n                     or - klaes%verga.enet.dec.com@uunet.uu.net\n\n             \"All the Universe, or nothing!\" - H. G. Wells\n\n        EJASA Editor, Astronomical Society of the Atlantic\n------------------------------------------------------------------------\nFrom: kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov\nNewsgroups: sci.space\nSubject: Re: Vandalizing the Sky\nDate: 10 May 93 21:51:11 GMT\nDistribution: sci\nOrganization: NASA\/JSC\/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office\nX-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]\nX-Posted-From: algol.jsc.nasa.gov\n\n[...]\n: That's roughly akin to saying let's let Anaconda strip-mine \n: the Grand Canyon so that strip-mining can boldly go where no \n: strip mining technology has gone before .. because after all, \n: mining means profits, and profits mean technological advance-\n: ment, and technogical advancement means prosperity, and pros-\n: perity means happiness, and so to hell with the Grand Canyon ..\n\nSpace advertisement in LOW Earth Orbit is very short term -- on the\norder of a few years before the orbit decays.  (Higher orbits last\nlonger.)  Advertisers will certainly be aware of the environmental\naspects of their advertising.  Fred's argument is roughly akin to\nsaying that it's bad to cut down trees, so we shouldn't advertise in\nnewspapers.  Think that through, Fred.\n\nPicture this: Our space billboard is a LARGE inflatable structure,\nfilled with \"bio-degradable\" foam instead of gas.  It scoops up space\ndebris as it orbits, thus CLEANING the space environment and bringing\nyou The Pause That Refreshes at the same time.  Because of the large\ndrag coefficient, it will de-orbit -- safely burning up -- within a\nyear.\n\nEmbedded in the foam structure is a small re-entry vehicle, which does\nnot burn up during entry.  It contains the electronics and propulsion\nsystem (which may be refurbished and re-used) as well as space science\nexperiments proposed and built by high school students in\nadvertiser-sponsored science fairs.\n\nAdvertisers buy time on the billboard, whose surface is made up of\ntiny mirrors controlled by the avionics package.  The avionics can\nreconfigure the mirrors to reflect different messages at different\nparts of the globe.  Clever programming allows different languages\nto every country.\n\nDuring orbital night, the mirrors turn perpendicular to the surface,\nand small lights are revealed.  The lights spell out messages for all\nto see.\n\n-- Ken Jenks, NASA\/JSC\/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office\n      kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov  (713) 483-4368","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nAlso known as, \"leaning.\"\n\n[severely confused rambling about the ground pushing...] \n\nContersteering refers to pushing the inside handlebar to effect a\nlean.  No-hands countersteering is an oxymoron.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nThis is a very good point. I have already made the clear claim that\nKhomeini advocates views which are in contradition with the Qur'an\nand have given my arguments for this. This is something that can be\nchecked by anyone sufficiently interested. Khomeini, being dead,\nreally can't respond, but another poster who supports Khomeini has\nresponded with what is clearly obfuscationist sophistry. This should\nbe quite clear to atheists as they are less susceptible to religionist\nmodes of obfuscationism. \n\nSo, to answer your question, the only way you can judge is by learning \nmore about Islam, that is by reading the Qur'an and understanding it's \nbasic principles. Once one has done this it is relatively easy to see \nwho is following the principles of Islam and who is acting in a way at \nodds with Islam. Khomeini by attributing a superhuman status to twelve \nmuslim historical leaders is at variance with one of basic principles \nof Islam, which is that no human being is metaphysically different than \nany other human being and in no sense any closer to God in metaphysical \nnature.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Dear Friends,\n\nHi!\n\nI need some information about the Organization ofISlamic Conference (OIC).    Does anyone know if there are books, articles, or journals that contains information regarding this organization?  If you know would you please send me an E.MAil at my address!  I thank you in advance and hope to hear soon since I need thisat present.\n\nRegards!!","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"the prophets who were there when the foundation was laid for the house of the\nLORD Almighty, let your hands be strong so that the temple may be built.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nUh, why do they have to ask a state commision? Unless the state's buying...\n\nSuch a process will only increace the overhead to the power company\nof selling different types of light, and will decreace the likleihood\nthat they will do so. And any efficient lights they might have been\nplanning in the future, go down the drain.....\n\n\nYou could order it special. If enough people did so, it would be \nlow cost. Last I checked, you could use UPS to buy stuff in Arizona\nbefore going there.\n\nFinally, I'm sure your state has things like small factories and\nmachine shops. You could go into business making lights that are\ncheaper to use (thanks to their higher efficiency and the\nfact that they aren't wasting energy on broadcasting to space)\nand therefore _better_ than the old style...\n\n\nFive year plans have to be enacted or the planning for the economy\nwill fall apart.\n  \n\nAs if the clean air act really cleaned up the air...\n\n\n_MY_ *experience* seems to suggest that you're trying too hard\nto *educate* them (with the same methods used in American schools\nto make any subject whatsoever as relevant and boring as Proto-Ugric)\ninstead of *selling* them on the idea.\n\n...\n\nWell, wake up. Space is becoming a field of human endeavor\ninstead of just something we can look at from a long long\nway away. There are practical space projects that could conceivably\n(although probably not) cause lots of light pollution, and \nhave been argued against on those grounds, even though they\nmight open up such possibilities, that people could vacation on\nMars if they wanted really dark skies...\n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"May 13, 1993  _Five Russian soldiers sentenced to death in Azerbaijan_\n \nMOSCOW (UPI) -- Five soldiers who served in Russia's 7th army stationed in\nArmenia were sentenced to death in the Azerbaijani capital Baku Thursday for\nallegedly \"carrying out diversions and killing 30 Azeri soldiers.\" \n\nA statement released by the news service of Azeri President Abulfaz Elchibey\nsaid \"the sentence was final and was not subject to protest or appeal,\" the \nRussian state news agency Itar-tass reported. \n\nBut the Russian Foreign Ministry issued an appeal for the men to be handed\nover to the authorities in Moscow for punishment. \n\n\"This would accord with modern standards of humanity towards those who have\ncommitted crimes,\" the statement reads. \n\nThe five men, together with another soldier who received a 15-year prison\nsentence, were captured in September 1992 by Azeri police in the Kelbadzhar\ndistrict of Azerbaijan, between Nagorno-Karabakh and Armenia. \n\nThe Supreme Court in Baku said the men had gone through special training in a\ncompany of the Russian 7th army in the Armenian capital Yerevan, after which\nthey were sent across the Armenian-Azeri border into Nagorno-Karabakh to \ncarry out diversions against Azeri troops. \n\nHowever, the Russian Foreign Ministry statement claimed they had deserted the\nRussian army and were fighting as mercenaries with Armenian armed forces in\nthe battle zone round Karabakh. \n\nNagorno-Karabakh is an Armenian-populated enclave within Azerbaijan which for\nfive years has been fighting for independence from Baku in a war that has\nleft many thousands dead and uprooted hundreds of thousands from their homes. \n\nBoth Yerevan and Baku have always claimed that Russian servicemen stationed\nin these Caucasian republics, who were left behind after the break-up of the \nSoviet Union, are fighting as mercenaries in the Karabakh war. \n\nThe statement from Moscow said the Russian side repeatedly appealed to the\nAzerbaijani government to show humanity and leniency in their treatment of the\nsix men, and to hand them over to the Russian authorities. \n\nIt said that President Boris Yeltsin himself sent a letter with this request \nto his Azeri counterpart Elchibey. Itar-tass said that the soldiers' defense\nattorneys had lodged an appeal for clemency. \n \n \n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Hello Ceci:\n\n     My name is Tony and I have a few comments on your \"rosicrucian\"\nadventure. I hereby state that I am not claiming or denying membership in\nany Order, fraternity etc. with or without the word \"Rosicrucian\" in the \nname of the organization. I only claim having done some \"homework\" :-)\n\n     This is intended as a friendly article and if at times it seems\ndifferent, it's my lack of writing skills showing, nothing else. Heck,\nEnglish may be my second language! (And then again maybe not by now :-)\n\n     I proceed:\n     Let's start with the name \"Rosicrucian\". I took me a long time to come\nto the conclusion that there is a difference between a *member* of a\n\"rosicrucian\" body and BEING *a* ROSICRUCIAN. So when you say that you met\nsome 'rosicrucians' you mean \"members of a group that calls themselves\nrosicrucian\". At least that is what your observation suggests :-)\n\n     I'd prefer if you would have stated up front that it was the Lectorium\nRosicrucianum, only because they may be confused, by some readers of this\nnewsgroup, with the Rosicrucian Order AMORC based (the USA Jurisdiction) in\nSan Jose, CA; this being the RC org with the most members (last time I\nlooked). Of course, \"most members\" does not *necessarily* mean \"best\".\n\n     Anyway, the Lectorium Rosicrucianum claims they\ndescend (at least in part) from what was the \"Gold-und-Rosenkreuz\" (Golden\nand Rosy Cross), from the 18th century. There were two \"Golden and Rosy\nCross\", the first (chronologically) more alchemical, the second with\nMasonic tinges, but their history is the subject of a complete chapter :-).\n\n     \"You'll have to trust me\" when I tell you that if that\nlecture\/class\/whatever had been presented by AMORC, it is unlikely that you\nwould have had the same impression, i.e., you'd probably have had a\npositive impression more likely than a negative one, IMHO. \n\n     Again, instead of R:s, it should be \"Lectorium Rosicrucianum\" :-). It\nis curious to know that 3 other RC 'orders' (in the USA) claim to be *non-\nsectarian*.\n\n     The Cathars were a 'heretic' christian sect that directly challenged\nthe 'authority' of the medieval catholic church. They flourished during the\n12th century, century which saw the religious zeal expressed in the\ncrusades and also the growing disillusion with the catholic church and the\nworldly ways of its clerics. It was largely in response to the church's\nunseemly pomp and splendor that Catharism took root, first in northern\nItaly, then throughout the south of France.\n\n\n\n     I don't see nothing *fundamentally* wrong with \"us containing\nsomething divine\"... And yes I don't like phrases like \"eternal bliss\"\neither! :-)\n\n     For a moment I thought you were referring to Madison Ave :-)\n(Madison avenue in New York City is where the most influential (read\n$$$) *commercial* advertising is produced here in the USA :-)\n\nPeace,\n\nTony\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nMainly carbon dust with iron in a plastic binder that is melted on to the\npaper.  Same stuff as dry paper photocopiers.\n\nAllergies?  Haven't heard of any, but anything's possible with allergies ;-)","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nWith your level of understanding, my dear friend Mutlu probably\nthought that he'd be nice and help you genocide apologist to get \nthe point. Besides, all your article reflects is your abundant\nignorance. Ignorance is probably the main reason why you historical\nrevisionist are in such a mess. You even make Nazi\/criminal Armenians \nlaugh.\n\n\n \"In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists a single Turkish soul.\n  It is in our power to tear away the veil of illusion that some of us\n  create for ourselves. It certainly is possible to severe the artificial\n  life-support system of an imagined 'ethnic purity' that some of us\n  falsely trust as the only structure that can support their heart beats \n  in this alien land.\"\n            (Sahak Melkonian - 1920 - \"Preserving the Armenian purity\") \n\n\n\"An appropriate analogy with the Jewish Holocaust might be the\n systematic extermination of the entire Muslim population of \n the independent republic of Armenia which consisted of at \n least 30-40 percent of the population of that republic. The \n memoirs of an Armenian army officer who participated in and \n eye-witnessed these atrocities was published in the U.S. in\n 1926 with the title 'Men Are Like That.' Other references abound.\"\n     (Rachel A. Bortnick - The Jewish Times - June 21, 1990)\n\n\n 1.\"Men Are Like That\" by Leonard A. Hartill, Bobbs Co., Indianapolis, \n   1926\n\n   Memoirs of an Armenian Army Officer translated to English and\n   published by a member of American \"Near East Relief Organization.\"\n   Gives the whole account of the genocide of all Turkish and Moslem\n   people in Armenia organized and executed by Armenian Government and\n   Army. Also gives account of countless other massacres and atrocities\n   against the Turkish people in Armenia.\n\n 2.\"Adventures in the Near East\" by A. Rawlinson, \n   Dodd, Meade & Co., 1925\n\n   Eyewitness account of the same genocide by a British Army Officer.\n\n 3.\"World Alive, A Personal Story\" by Robert Dunn,\n   Crown Publishers, Inc., New York, 1952\n\n   Another eyewitness account of the same genocide by an American \n   Officer.\n\n 4.\"From Sardarapat to Serves and Lousanne\" by Avetis Aharonian,\n   The Armenian Review Magazine, Volume 15 (Fall 1962) through 17 \n   (Spring 1964)\n\n   Memoirs of the chief Armenian delegate to the Paris Peace Conference\n   were published in the Armenian Review Magazine in 13 articles from\n   Volume 15 (Fall 1962) to Volume 17 (Spring 1964). These memoirs \n   include an interview between Aharonian and British Foreign Minister \n   Lord Curzon in which above-mentioned genocide was discussed. The \n   official report mentioned by Lord Curzon is the report of British \n   High Commissioner to Caucasia, Sir Oliver Wardrop.\n\n\n                    'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them and in \n                     whatever circumstances you find them. Turkish children \n                     also should be killed as they form a danger to the \n                     Armenian nation.' (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)[1]\n\n [1] M. Varandian, \"History of the Dashnaktsutiun,\" p. 85.\n\n\nSource: Hovannisian, Richard G.: Armenia on the Road to Independence, 1918.\nUniversity of California Press (Berkeley and Los Angeles), 1967, p. 13.\n\n\"The addition of the Kars and Batum oblasts to the Empire increased the\n area of Transcaucasia to over 130,000 square miles. The estimated population\n of the entire region in 1886 was 4,700,000, of whom 940,000 (20 percent) were\n Armenian, 1,200,000 (25 percent) Georgian, and 2,220,000 (45 percent) Moslem.\n Of the latter group, 1,140,000 were Tatars. Paradoxically, barely one-third\n of Transcaucasia's Armenians lived in the Erevan guberniia, where the \n Christians constituted a majority in only three of the seven uezds. Erevan\n uezd, the administrative center of the province, had only 44,000 Armenians\n as compared to 68,000 Moslems. By the time of the Russian Census of 1897,\n however, the Armenians had established a scant majority, 53 percent, in the\n guberniia; it had risen by 1916 to 60 percent, or 670,000 of the 1,120,000\n inhabitants. This impressive change in the province's ethnic character \n notwithstanding, there was, on the eve of the creation of the Armenian \n Republic, a solid block of 370,000 Tartars who continued to dominate the \n southern districts, from the outskirts of Ereven to the border of Persia.\" \n (See also Map 1. Historic Armenia and Map 4. Administrative subdivisions of \n Transcaucasia).\n\nIn 1920, '0' percent Turk. \n\n\"We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as \n ways of escape for the Tartars and then proceeded in the work \n of extermination. Our troops surrounded village after village. \n Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked the huts \n into heaps of stone and dust and when the villages became untenable \n and inhabitants fled from them into fields, bullets and bayonets \n completed the work. Some of the Tartars escaped of course. They \n found refuge in the mountains or succeeded in crossing the border \n into Turkey. The rest were killed. And so it is that the whole \n length of the borderland of Russian Armenia from Nakhitchevan to \n Akhalkalaki from the hot plains of Ararat to the cold mountain \n plateau of the North were dotted with mute mournful ruins of \n Tartar villages. They are quiet now, those villages, except for \n howling of wolves and jackals that visit them to paw over the \n scattered bones of the dead.\" \n\n                             Ohanus Appressian\n                            \"Men Are Like That\"\n                                   p. 202.\n\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nI've been following this train of talk, and the question of dismissing atoms as  \nbeing in some sense \"not real\" leaves me uneasy.\n\nIt seems to be implied that we obseve only the effects, and therefore the  \nunderlying thing is not necessarily real.  The tree outside my window is in  \nthis category... is observe the light which bounces off of it, not the tree  \nitself.  The observation is indirect, but no more so than observations I have  \nmade of atoms.\n\nAlso, what about observations and experiments that have been routinely done  \nwith individual atoms.  I am thinking in particular of atom trapping  \nexperiments and tests of fundamental quantum mechanics such as the quantum Zeno  \neffect, where an individual atom is studied for a long period of time.\n\nSome of the attempts at quantum mechanical arguments were not very satisfying  \neither.  One has to be carefull about making such arguments without a solid  \ntechnical background in the field.  What I read seemed a little confused a  \nquite a red herring.\n\nAnyway, if the purpose of a public debate is to make the audience think, it  \nworked.  After doing so, I'm willing to try to defend the following assertion  \nif anyone cares:","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nObviously not.  Count rates are too low and signal rise times too long\nfor this to be possible.  The CGRO, is, what, 10 meters long?  You'd\nneed to time to an accuracy of nanoseconds to do this.\n\nWhat BATSE actually does is measure the relative strength in each of\nthe detectors (also as a function of photon energy).  Each of the\ndetectors does not have isotropic response.  To do this right one must\nmodel the scattering of photons in the material around each detector,\nand even scattering of photons off the Earth's atmosphere back onto\nthe spacecraft.  I believe they have now reduced the error to about 2\ndegrees.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Face it Mr. Beyer, you're just outmatched by us Israeli\nintellectuals.  Any attempts to defend the deceitful,\nundeserving Palestinians will prove fruitless!\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Does anyone know how to configure a DOS app in Progman\nso that only one instance of it can be running at a time?\n\nI'd really appreciate some help on how to do this.  I\nwould prefer responses through email if it's not a big \ndeal, or at least through email _as well as_ posting.\n\nThank you!\n\n--\nJames E. Lee  \njelee@hamlet.ucdavis.edu ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"It looks like Ben Baz's mind and heart are also blind, not only his eyes.\nI used to respect him, today I lost the minimal amount of respect that\nI struggled to keep for him.\nTo All Muslim netters: This is the same guy who gave a \"Fatwah\" that\nSaudi Arabia can be used by the United Ststes to attack Iraq . That\nFatwah is as legitimate as this one. With that kind of \"Clergy\", it might\nbe an Islamic duty to separate religion and politics, if religion\nmeans \"official Clergy\".\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"= In article <1993Apr21.231552.24869@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>,\n= \n= Hmm, it seems that this is the core of Christianity then, you \n= have to feel guilty, and then there's this single personality\n= that will save you from this universal guilt feeling.\n= \n= Brian, I will tell you a secret, I don't feel guilty at all,\n= I do mistakes, and I regret them, however I've never had this\n= huge guilt feeling hanging over my shoulder.\n\nI will tell you another secret.  I get this burning sensation in my\nhand every time I hold it over a candle.  The pain does not fill my entire\nbody, and I'm told the longer I hold it here, the less it'll hurt (it'll\neventually burn up the nerves, or so I'm told).  So I suppose I should just\nignore the pain, because holding my hand over the candle is something I just\nwant to do. I've got the right, don't I?\n\nYour body feels pain to let you know something is wrong.  It's your body's\nalarm system informing you that something needs your attention.\n\nA fever tells you that you are sick, and need some sort of care.\n\nGuilt can be seen as that \"emotional or spiritual\" alarm, just informing you\nthat there is something that you've done that \"requires your attention\".\n\nIt doesn't require a \"personality type\" to become a believer.  It requires\nsomeone who is willing to listen to themselves, their body & soul.  \n\n= All I know is that I don't know everything. And frankly speaking\n= I don't care, life is fun anyway. I recognize that I'm not \n= perfect, but that does not hinder me from have a healthy\n= and inspiring life.\n\nFor several years all I knew is I really liked dropping 'cid (LSD).\nFrankly speaking, I didn't really care.  It was fun anyway.\n\nIt didn't matter that every child my wife and I want to have are at a \n*tremendously* greater risk of serious birth defects.\n\nFor several years all I knew is I really liked having sex with as many women\nas I could convice.  Frankly speaking, I didn't care.  \n\nI didn't care that I was putting each one of them at risk (as well as their\nfuture partners).\n\nIt didn't matter that for the first decade of my marriage, my wife and I\nwill have the worry that possibly that last sneeze meant something *much*\nworse than a cold.\n\n= \n= There are humans that subscribe to the same notion. The nice\n= thing is that when you finally shake off this huge burden,\n= the shoulders feel far more relaxed!\n\nThe nice thing about pain killers, if you take enough, you won't care about \nthe fever, shortness of breath or pain.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nWas it just me, or did it look like Hirschbeck pointed to\nthe 3B umpire before calling that strike?  I thought that's\nwhy Gant was asking for the appeal to the 1st base umpire;\nhe thought Hirschbeck had gotten checked-swing help from the wrong\numpire.\n\n\nAfter Hirschbeck called for the pitch, but before the pitch was thrown,\nCox came onto the field.  It was obvious that he was trying to get time\ncalled before the pitch, but no one was watching.\n\n\n\n\nYour listing pretty much agreed with what I saw, with the aforementioned\naddendums.  Perhaps it appeared differently at the ballpark.  Personally,\nI was amazed that Gant didn't get ejected.  But that's why Cox did;\nit's called protecting your players.\n\nAnd to those people who would have thrown everyone out of the game,\nall I can say is that you'd be making baseball history.  Even in\nthe worst baseball brawls, usually only the major instigators are\nejected, not everyone who comes onto the field.  And I'd have to \nsay that those brawls are considerably more threatening to the game\n than what the Braves did Fri. night.\n\nAnyhow, that's my last two cents on the subject, barring\noutrageous postings.  I will try to keep my eyes open\nfor more incidents involving Hirschbeck. I think there will\nbe some with other teams as well.  I hope not.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nThe SEI. Software Engineering Institute, a DoD funded part of Carnegie Mellon\nUniversity.  You can read about part of it in Ed Yourdon's The Decline and\nFall of the American Programmer (Yourdon Press).\n\nJust passing thru.....","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\t   I don't think the question is:\n\t\t   \"will OS\/2 X.X run Windows Y.Y apps now?\"\n\n\t   A more important question is:\n\t\t   \"will subsequent OS\/2 versions continue to run apps\n\t\t   from subsequent Windows versions in the future?\"\n   -- \n   John A. Grant\t\t\t\t\t\tjagrant@emr1.emr.ca\n   Airborne Geophysics\n   Geological Survey of Canada, Ottawa\n\n\n\tBut the most important question is:\n\t\t\"will there be any OS2 apps, so we don't \n\t\thave to load windows in the future?\"\n\t\n\tand maybe the question of the future will be:\n\t\t\"will windows X.1 run OS2 Y.Y apps now?\"\n\nRegards Hans\n--\n------------------------------------------------------------- \nThe whales of the Atlantic and the people of the Faroe Islands \nhave coexisted in perfect harmony for the last 1000 years -\nno matter what any urban navel contamplator without any real\nrelation to the coherence of the nature says.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
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{"text":"\n\n\nBut neither of them claimed to have experimental evidence that proved \nthem right. In a similar vein, there is as yet no experimental evidence\nfor supersymmetric particles; so some physicists believe in them, and\nsome don't -- but all agree that either there is an objectively true\nanswer to the question.\n\n--\nMark Pundurs","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nPolysyllabic is polysyllabic too....","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nHey, joe -- assuming you're old enough to remember it -- how did you feel\nabout presidential responsibility every time Reagan said \"I don't recall\" \nabout his arms-for-hostages meetings with the Ollie North gang?\n\nHow did you feel about it when Bush said he \"was out of the loop on that\ndecision\" when he was right there in the thick of it?\n\nOh, right.  \"He was responsible in the sense that he was briefed, but so\nwhat -- shit happens!\"  Is that what you said?\n\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I propose that PepsiCo, Mcdonalds and other companies could put \ninto orbit banners that have timely political messages, such as,\n\n     \"Stop the slaughter in Bosnia!\"\n\n, etc.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nyou may have been able to bounce the front up but not\nactually do a \"wheelie\". see the shaft effect unloads\nthe rear susspension and effectivly loads the front.\nthis is why a shaft bike should accelerate if it starts\nscraping in a corner......\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"..\ntry DraftChoice, its not windows but its shareware and object\noriented. Use it with PrintGL for high quality output.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Meta-exegesis: Conviction of Sin,  part II\n\nLet me return to the question, stipulating that Paul meant his use of\n_arseonkoitai_ to refer more or less exactly to the Levitical prohibition\nof male-male sex.  In order to bring out the problems most clearly, I'll\nalso stipulate (what I think is far less plausible) that Paul coined the\nterm for this usage.  The question I want to turn to is what that would\nmean for Paul's readers and for later Christians.  This should be shorter\nthan my last note, as we will see that this question rapidly confronts us\nwith some of the major divisions within Christ's body, and I am not trying\nto open the gates for flames across any of the terrible chasms that\nseparate any of us from our fellow Christians.  My own biases (loosely\ncharacterizable as \"liberal\") will be evident, but I am not grinding an\naxe here, so much as trying to get all parties to see that it may be HARD\nto reach \"closure\" when the issues involved strike at the heart of what we\neach, in our own different ways, see as crucial to the Gospel of Christ.\n\nSo; stipulating Paul's intent, the immediate question is: HOW CAN HIS\nREADERS UNDERSTAND this intent?  And following on that question, there is\na second one: WHAT IS OUR PROPER ACTION if we *do* manage to understand him?\n\nSince Paul gives not a single clue about his meaning in the text of 1st\nCorinthians, there are two \"positive\" answers and one \"negative\" to this\nquestion:\n\n+\ta.  Paul (or Apollos, or someone) in the apostolic community has\n\t    conveyed to the Corinthians the then-traditional Jewish condem-\n\t    nation of homosexual behavior, and Paul expects them to be\n\t    sufficiently well-tutored by this tradition that he needs no\n\t    futher explanation.  [I should note that there is no evidence\n\t    in the letter, or in 2 Corinthians for such a supposition :-)]\n\n+\tb.  The Spirit will teach us what Paul means (or, if not Paul,\n\t    what God means \"behind\" Paul's inspired word-choice.)\n\n-\tc.  We *don't* know, and cannot guess to within any better pre-\n\t    cision here than, for comparison, in the parallel use by Paul,\n\t    in the same passage of the word  _pleonektai_ (\"those who have\n\t    more\" -- if you think that _areseonkoitai_ is \"obvious\" from\n\t    its roots, try cutting your teeth on *this* word!  The NEB\n\t    translates it as \"grabbers\") or even _methusoi_ (\"drunkards\"\n\t    -- at least this has the advantage of being a common insult,\n\t    so that at least there is *some* hint as to its meaning!)\n\nThe three positions more or less -- if I can be allowed some exaggeration\nfor the sake of argument -- define a classical Catholic attitude towards\ntradition, one form of Protestant _sola scriptura_, and a liberal\/critical\ndemand for evidence.  All three positions have strengths and weaknesses.\n\n_ad_ a:\tIt is unquestionable that the gospel was preached in and by the\n\tcommunity of Christ's disciples and their successors, and that\n\tour NT scripture itself emerges from this communal tradition.\n\tBut it's also the case that we know little or nothing about this\n\ttradition until almost a century after Paul, which is to say that\n\twe have access to the tradition only after several generations of\n\tpossibly confused transmission.  The scripture is itself our only\n\tdocumentation of the tradition in the critical era.\n\n_ad_ b:\tIf we are NOT born of water and Spirit [to revert to John in an\n\tattempt to explain Paul :-)], then we have no more hope of under-\n\tstanding the gospel than Nicodemus had; neither the traditions of\n\tmen nor the vain elevation of our own reason can prevent the Spirit\n\tfrom blowing where it will -- the Paraclete is a kamikaze.  But\n\tthe downside of Protestant belief in the efficacy of the Spirit\n\tas our guide in scripture is that the wing of Protestantism that\n\ttakes this most seriously is also the most fragmented over divergent\n\tunderstanding supposedly derived from the \"clear\" Word of God.\n\n\t\t[Note: classical Lutheran, Calvinist and Anglican thought\n\t\tconstrains scripture to be read *within* tradition, even\n\t\twhile reserving judgment against tradition out of scripture;\n\t\tthe more bizarre forms of \"I will read Scripture my way\"\n\t\tare primarily a fringe aspect of \"cultic\" Protestantism.]\n\n\tThe main problem with this approach is that there is apparently no\n\tmeans for ONE person to convey to another what that one may feel\n\t*is* teaching received from the Spirit; and history shows incredible\n\tconflict between Christians on this point, each in his own mind\n\t\"convinced\" that he is led by the Spirit.  No one can seriously\n\turge point b without SOME sense of its potential for setting Christian\n\tagainst Christian.  To what purpose?\n\n_ad_ c:\tThe critical approach has the distinct advantage that when it can\n\treach a conclusion, it can lay out the data in a way which is open\n\tto all.  The weakness is an obvious corollary: this is not usually\n\tpossible. :-)\n\n\t[If I may say a word here, out of my own already acknowledged bias;\n\tone complaint against critical methodology is that it \"dissolves\"\n\tfaith -- but surely a \"faith\" that cannot honestly face the evalu-\n\tation of evidence has problems which mere theology is helpless to\n\taddress.]\n\nAnyway, there is a serious and unfortunate possibility of schism between\n\"liberal\" and \"conservative\" positions, mostly on the basis of extreme\nzealots of positions b and c.  A Catholic sense of authority and tradition\ntends to constrain arguments of b contra c to secondary position, so that\ndespite horrendous strains Rome is NOT as likely to find these issues as\nultimately divisive as the Protestant world will.  And Anglicans will (I\npredict) muddle through on the _via media_, attempting to give each position\nits due, but no more than its due. \n\nSecond question.  Suppose tradition tells us, and lots of \"spiritual\"\nChristians tell us, and critical thought at least admits as possible,\nthat Paul is refering to a flat, universal Levitical prohibition against\nmale-male sex.  What then?  Again, we can abdicate our personal responsi-\nbility to tradition, and let it dictate the answer.  But it's precisely\nwhere inherited traditions are NOT questioned that they're most dangerous.\n\nWe have EXAMPLES of Christ questioning the Pharisees and THEIR use of\ntradition (despite his urging, in Matthew 23:2 that we are to heed them).\nWe have EXAMPLES of Peter, and more radically still Paul, jettisoning the\ntraditions that THEY were led by the Spirit to call into question.  Jesus\nand Peter and Paul do not so much \"throw out\" tradition as subject it to\nradical criticism, on a couple of very basic grounds:\n\n     \"the weightier demands of the law: justice and mercy and good faith\"\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t(Matthew 23:23)\nand  \"On these two commandments [love God & neighbor] hand the whole Law,\n      and the Prophets, also.\"\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t(Matthew 22:40)\n\nIf there is a fundamental (because derived from Christ) validity in the\nchallenge to *some* traditions, a validity that led the first generation\nto go so far as to waive application of the Torah to gentile converts\n(vastly beyond anything that is directly deducible from Jesus' reported\nwords and deeds), it signifies to me a certain failure of the imagination\nto *postulate* that *only* the traditions that we have specific challenges\nagainst are in fact open to challenge.\n\nAll traditions passed *through* men are traditions *of* men.  That God may\nlead us even so, that these traditions are a source of our spiritual\ninstruction I will freely grant.  But tradition is inherently human, and\ninherently corruptible (and given the Fall, corrupt).  Nothing in it is\nimmune to challenge, when the Spirit shows us a failure in justice, mercy\nand good faith.  Nothing may ultimately stand unless it DOES follow from\nlove of God and love of neighbor.\n\nI am perfectly willing to grant that I could be blind to my own sin.  That\nthe Spirit may have taught another what She refuses to teach me (or I am\ntoo dense to learn).  That tradition *might* have value here.  But what I\n*know* of tradition is that on one occasion, some superstitious Christians\nappealed to Justinian after an earthquake in Asia Minor, and scapegoated\n\"sodomites\" as the \"cause\" of the earthquake, so that legislation was\npassed making homosexual behavior a capital offense.  If that is in\naccord with the gospel of Christ, then I am no Christian.  That is human\ntradition at its most hateful and vicious.  And I see nothing all that much\ndifferent in all the unbidden eruptions onto USENET of people who are quick\nto condemn but slow to understand.  If that is the leading of the Spirit,\nthen I want no part of it.  But what I have found in obedience to the Lord\nis that I am, myself, TOTALLY dependent on the witness of other Christians,\nfor the truth that lives in the Body of Christ.\n\nAnd I say to all who doubt that gay Christianity is from God what Gamaliel\nsaid to doubting Pharisees who would have suppressed the earliest Church:\n\n\t\"be careful how you deal with these people...  If this enterprise,\n\tthis movement of theirs, is of human origin it will break up of\n\tits own accord; but if it does in fact come from God you will not\n\tonly be unable to destroy them, but you might find yourselves\n\tfighting against God.\"\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t[Acts 5:36...39] \n\nAll I ask is that you listen to your traditions, and read your scriptures\nwith a mind and soul OPEN to the Spirit, and to the past history of our\nfirst Christian witnesses' willingness to challenge tradition and OTHER\nreadings of scripture -- though read with all the authority of scribes and\nrabbis -- and a submission to the declaration that all must depend on the\nlove of God and neighbor.  Then, study the evidence; learn the history of\nChristians oppressing Christians out of their traditions and eagerness to\njudge where Jesus and Paul tell us NOT to judge.  And let the witness of\nthe Spirit in the lives of your fellow Christians -- including those who\nare NOT of your preference in theology -- guide you towards God's truth.\n-- \nMichael L. Siemon\t\tI say \"You are gods, sons of the\nmls@panix.com\t\t\tMost High, all of you; nevertheless\n    - or -\t\t\tyou shall die like men, and fall\nmls@ulysses.att..com\t\tlike any prince.\"   Psalm 82:6-7\n\n[There's a certain ambiguity in your discussion of position (a), as to\nwhether you're speaking of tradition in Paul's time or ours.  I think\nthere are two ways to use tradition.  One is to say that when Paul and\nhis readers share a tradition, it makes sense to interpret his words\nin the context of that shared tradition.  That's what makes me think\nthat these arguments over words turn out to be silly.  We know that\nPaul came out of a background that was rather Puritanical on sex.\nEverything else he says on sex is consistent with that background.\nThe tone of his remarks on homosexuality in Rom 1 is consistent with\nthat background.  Even if the words in the sin lists aren't the most\ngeneral terms for homosexual activity (and it seems to me that there's\nsome evidence that they are not), they are just one more piece of\nevidence for something we would probably be willing to believe with no\nevidence at all -- that Paul shares the common Jewish rejection of\nhomosexuality.\n\nBut when you identify (a) with the Catholic position, that's rather a\nhorse of a different color.  The Catholic position involves a\ncontinuing church tradition.  Arguments specific to that tradition\nmight be (1) we can get guidance on how to interpret Paul's original\nmeaning from tradition, e.g. the way the Church Fathers interpreted\nhim, and (2) we gain confidence that his prohibitions still apply in\nour time because of the universal judgement of the church between his\ntime and ours.  I think this is a somewhat different use of tradition.\nA radical Protestant might be willing to use known 1st Cent.\ntradition to illuminate Paul's original meaning, but not use the\nCatholic position to answer the question of what our own attitude to\nhomosexuality should be.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nI had exactly the same feeling.  I was depressed.  If you ever programmed\nWindows and X11, you'd be depressed if an X conference touted its tutorials\nto show you how to convert from X to Windows API.  Sort of like, \"how to\nconvert your C++ classes to the new, improved C.\"\n\nWhat happened?","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nI would just like to point out that the particular command not to eat\nor fellowship with Gentiles is not found in the Old Testament.  This\nwas part of the \"hedge built around the law.\"  It was a part of Peter's\ntradition, and not the Scripture.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"From article <1qvampINNmhf@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, by stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU:\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nI believe that this is not contradictory on the basis that\nthe quality of media reporting varies greatly based on the\nsubject at hand.  The media has proven itself very accurate\nis the areas of presenting raw, undisputed data.  One good\nexample would be the weather page in which high and low\ntemperatures of the previous day for a large number of\nlocations are posting.  There is little evidence to show\nthat they are in error.\n\nThe American media has failed us in its analysis of complex\nevents, however.  I'm sure that we can come up with many\nnews stories that have left us angry because so many facts\nhave been ommitted.  Cases that come to mind are the\ninvasion of Panama, the war with Iraq, the disaster in Waco,\nthe issues surrounding the acceptance of gays into the\nmilitary, the war on drugs, and many others.\n\nThe story that you bring to light was regarding the new\nsex survey.  While I'm sure that due to lazyness some of\nthe data was ommitted from the article, I would venture to\nguess that the data that was presented did not deviate\nfrom the survey.  I do, however, think that it would be\nfolly to have blind faith in a single newswriter's\nanalysis of this data.  In this particular case, there was\nlittle analysis, and the reader was left to draw his\/her\nown convictions.\n\nMany netters, Mr. Cramer included, often forget that the\nAmerican media are merely a number of businesses, who's\npurpose in life is to make money for their owners and\nstockholders.  Revenues come largely from advertisers\nwho merely want maximum useful exposure per dollar.  The\nmedia is like fast food; the quality of the food (or of\nthe reporting) will improve only if the customers demand\nas such.  Otherwise, it is business as usual.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"This is such Bullshit.  Deir Yassin was an unprovoked attack on\nthe part of the Jews, and a massacre defines it best in my\nopinion.  The village of Deir Yassin had had a pact with the\nJews, a peace pact, but the Irgun purposely broke this\nagreement in order to scare off the Palestinians.  I might\ngrant that this village housed armed Arabs [I doubt it] but\nnothing in the archives and available literature indicates that\nthis was a motivating force amongst the Irgun.  The Deir Yassin\nMASSACRE was part of an over all strategy to intimidate the\nPalestinians to flee the Jewish Homeland.,...and contrary to\nyour belief, many civilians were killed.  Deir Yassin was later\nadvertized by the very Jews who perpetrated it because it was\nuseful in getting many Palestinians to leave.  The Palestinians\nwere rightfully scared off, because they did not want another\nDeir Yassin.  \n\tI'm not necessarily condemning the Israelites here;\natrocities were aslo committed on the part of the Arabs.\nIsraelophiles should just be careful in thinking that they are\nand were the good guys in the middle east.  Both Arab and Jew\nsuck equally.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\nThought I'd add something to the conversation. \n\nMy girlfriend used to work in a lab studying different natural carcinogens.\nShe mentioned once about the cancerous effect of barbecued food.\nBasically, she said that if you eat barbecued foods with strawberries\n(a natural carcinogen) the slight carcinogenic properties of both\ncancel out each other.\n\n--\nJeff Poupore\njtpoupor@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Is there a DOS screen capture utility -- PD or shareware -- that will\nwork reliably with VESA 6a 800x600 screens?","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":": This figure, is far below all the other figures I have seen.  If it\n: is indeed accurate, then how do you explain the discrepancy between\n: that figure, and other figures from international organizations?\n: Most figures I have seen place the hit ratio close to 70%, which is \n: still far higher than your 35%.  Or does your figure say a bomb\n: missed if the plane took off with it, and the bomb never hit the target,\n: regardless of whether or not the bomb was dropped?  Such methods\n: are used all the time to lie with statistics.\n\nAnswering the last sentence, claimed that they had a success rate of 80%\nwithout initially explaining, until pressed, that this meant that 80%\nof the aircraft came back having dropped their bombs somewhere, regardless'\nof whether they had hit the intended target, or indeed anything al all.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nI saw Messier and Leetch shooting at a camera on Letterman(?).  I\ncould have been any show though, since I watch NONE of those late\nnight shows very regularly.\n\t\t\t\t\t-John Santore\n\nPhiladelphia Flyers in '93-'94! \n\n=============================================================================\n ____________________                                \n\/                    \\                   \"We break the surface tension \n\\_________     ____   \\                   with our wild kinetic dreams\"\n\/             \/    \\   \\                        -Rush, Grand Designs\n\\_______     \/  (*) )   )\n\/           \/ \/\\___\/   \/                 Go Philadelphia Flyers!\n\\_____     \/ \/        \/\n\/         \/  \\_______\/                   John Santore (jsbh@andrew.cmu.edu)\n\\________\/   ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Speaking of ME's. The FBI said the fire victims were found face-up\n<fire victims, apparently, are usually found face down> \nsuggesting they died prior to the fire. The ME says, in a word,\nBULLSHIT, the victims WERE face down. The FBI says they sent a body\nof a victim that was shot, supposedly by BD guards, the ME\nsays, in a word, BULLSHIT, the body showed NO evidence of gunshot\nwounds. Can the ATF\/FBI tell the difference between CYA and truth?\n\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
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{"text":"\nI've recently joined the Motif world, so I'd like a similar tool for\nMotif.  I've bene used to the OpenWin one in the past and miss it.\n\nCheers,\n\n[M][a][r][c]","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"O.K., only one series is done.  But I need to post something.\n\nBy the way, the Islanders just scored.\n\n\nRank Team Name                  Points   Final 4\n  1. roland_behunin                  5   CAL-6 QUE-7 QUE-7 \n  2. Milton_Keynes_Kings             0   DET-6 PIT-5 PIT-5 \n     Barfly                          0   TOR-6 BOS-7 TOR-6 \n     Dean's                          0   DET-5 PIT-5 PIT-7 \n     Oz                              0   LAK-6 BOS-6 LAK-6 \n     Garry                           0   TOR-6 BOS-6 BOS-4 \n     Brian_Bergman                   0   DET-6 PIT-6 DET-6 \n     Mopar_Muscle_Men                0   CHI-5 PIT-6 PIT-5 \n     BH's_Last_Place_Picks           0   CHI-5 PIT-6 PIT-5 \n     Dave_Wessels                    0   VAN-7 PIT-6 PIT-5 \n     Sam_&_His_Dogs                  0   DET-6 PIT-5 PIT-5 \n     Ye_Ding                         0   DET-6 PIT-5 PIT-6 \n     Tampere_Stars                   0   CHI-6 PIT-6 PIT-6 \n     The_Mighty_Hedgehogs_Of_Myllyp  0   CHI-6 BOS-6 BOS-6 \n     Homesick_Hawaiian               0   VAN-7 PIT-6 PIT-5 \n     Killer_Kings                    0   CHI-6 WAS-6 CHI-6 \n     Puggy_Greybeards                0   DET-5 PIT-5 PIT-5 \n     Ottawa_Bearcats                 0   TOR-5 PIT-6 TOR-6 \n     Andrew_Kirk                     0   TOR-6 PIT-6 PIT-5 \n     Muller_n_Walker                 0   DET-6 PIT-6 PIT-6 \n     Excalibur                       0   DET-6 PIT-4 PIT-6 \n     Rednecks_from_Hockey_Hell       0   DET-7 BOS-5 BOS-5 \n     The_@$%@#$%_Rangers_of_1940     0   CHI-6 PIT-7 PIT-6 \n     Jeff_Phelps                     0   DET-6 PIT-6 PIT-5 \n     Arctic_Circles                  0   DET-6 PIT-6 PIT-4 \n     Sludge                          0   DET-6 PIT-6 DET-6 \n     The_Logistician                 0   DET-6 PIT-6 DET-7 \n     Hillside_Raiders                0   CHI-6 BOS-6 BOS-7\n     Danielle                        0   CHI-5 QUE-7 QUE-7\n     Stanias_Stars                   0   CHI-6 BOS-7 BOS-6\n     BloodHook                       0   DET-5 PIT-5 PIT-5\n     Gilles_Carmel                   0   CHI-6 PIT-7 PIT-7\n     Pasi_Fr{nti                     0   LAK-7 PIT-5 PIT-6\n     Evan_Pritchard                  0   VAN-6 PIT-6 PIT-5\n     Skriko_Wolves                   0   DET-7 PIT-5 PIT-5\n     Rangers_Blow                    0   CAL-7 PIT-6 PIT-4\n     Sean                            0   DET-5 PIT-5 PIT-6\n     Schott_Shooters                 0   CHI-6 PIT-5 PIT-5\n     Gary_Shiff                      0   TOR-4 PIT-6 PIT-4\n     Mike_Burger                     0   DET-7 PIT-6 DET-7\n     Darse                           0   DET-6 PIT-6 PIT-6\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nEthics deal with individuals.  Morals deal with groups.\n\n\nPlease describe these \"number of ways\" in detail.  Then explain any\ncontradictions that may arise.\n\n\nThe sentence, \"Yes, it's possible, but it is difficult.\"  Humans survived\n\"in the wild\" for hundreds of thousands of years.\n\n\nAnswer the question, Keith.  Is homosexuality detrimental to the survival\nof the species?","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Here are the final point totals for players chosen in the USENET Hockey Draft.\nNote that only 114 players scored more than 55 points (the minimum cost)\nalthough 254 different players were chosen.\n\n\t- Andrew\n\nPoints\tTeam\tPlayer\n160\tPIT\tMario_Lemieux\n148\tBUF\tPat_LaFontaine\n142\tBOS\tAdam_Oates\n137\tDET\tSteve_Yzerman\n132\tWPG\tTeemu_Selanne\n132\tNYI\tPierre_Turgeon\n127\tBUF\tAlexander_Mogilny\n127\tTOR\tDoug_Gilmour\n125\tLA\tLuc_Robitaille\n123\tPHI\tMark_Recchi\n114\tQUE\tMats_Sundin\n111\tPIT\tKevin_Stevens\n110\tVAN\tPavel_Bure\n109\tPIT\tRick_Tocchet\n107\tCHI\tJeremy_Roenick\n106\tSTL\tCraig_Janney\n105\tQUE\tJoe_Sakic\n102\tBOS\tJoe_Juneau\n101\tSTL\tBrett_Hull\n100\tCGY\tTheoren_Fleury\n100\tPIT\tRon_Francis\n99\tTOR\tDave_Andreychuk\n97\tMTL\tVincent_Damphousse\n97\tDET\tDino_Ciccarelli\n97\tWPG\tPhil_Housley\n96\tBUF\tDale_Hawerchuk\n94\tSTL\tBrendan_Shanahan\n94\tMTL\tKirk_Muller\n94\tPIT\tJaromir_Jagr\n93\tMIN\tMike_Modano\n91\tNYR\tMark_Messier\n89\tHFD\tGeoff_Sanderson\n88\tMTL\tBrian_Bellows\n88\tCGY\tRobert_Reichel\n87\tLA\tJari_Kurri\n87\tNYI\tSteve_Thomas\n87\tDET\tSergei_Fedorov\n87\tDET\tPaul_Coffey\n86\tTB\tBrian_Bradley\n86\tPHI\tRod_Brind'Amour\n85\tWSH\tPeter_Bondra\n85\tPIT\tLarry_Murphy\n85\tHFD\tAndrew_Cassels\n85\tVAN\tCliff_Ronning\n82\tWSH\tMike_Ridley\n82\tLA\tTony_Granato\n82\tQUE\tSteve_Duchesne\n82\tHFD\tPat_Verbeek\n82\tBOS\tRay_Bourque\n81\tCGY\tGary_Suter\n81\tNJ\tClaude_Lemieux\n80\tMTL\tStephan_Lebeau\n79\tNJ\tAlexander_Semak\n79\tWSH\tKevin_Hatcher\n79\tMIN\tRuss_Courtnall\n79\tWSH\tDale_Hunter\n78\tQUE\tMike_Ricci\n78\tSJ\tKelly_Kisio\n78\tSTL\tJeff_Brown\n77\tQUE\tOwen_Nolan\n77\tVAN\tMurray_Craven\n77\tVAN\tGeoff_Courtnall\n76\tNYR\tTony_Amonte\n76\tNYI\tDerek_King\n76\tMIN\tDave_Gagner\n75\tPHI\tEric_Lindros\n75\tCGY\tJoe_Nieuwendyk\n75\tNYI\tBenoit_Hogue\n74\tTOR\tNikolai_Borschevsky\n74\tWSH\tMichal_Pivonka\n74\tMIN\tUlf_Dahlen\n73\tLA\tJimmy_Carson\n73\tNJ\tStephane_Richer\n73\tCHI\tChris_Chelios\n73\tSTL\tNelson_Emerson\n72\tWPG\tAlexei_Zhamnov\n72\tBOS\tDmitri_Kvartalnov\n72\tVAN\tTrevor_Linden\n72\tWPG\tThomas_Steen\n71\tVAN\tPetr_Nedved\n70\tPIT\tJoe_Mullen\n70\tCHI\tSteve_Larmer\n69\tLA\tMike_Donnelly\n68\tQUE\tAndrei_Kovalenko\n68\tNYR\tMike_Gartner\n67\tWSH\tDmitri_Khristich\n66\tWSH\tAl_Iafrate\n66\tDET\tRay_Sheppard\n66\tSJ\tJohan_Garpenlov\n65\tTOR\tGlenn_Anderson\n65\tHFD\tZarley_Zalapski\n65\tLA\tWayne_Gretzky\n65\tNYR\tAdam_Graves\n64\tNJ\tValeri_Zelepukin\n63\tOTT\tNorm_Maciver\n63\tPHI\tKevin_Dineen\n62\tDET\tSteve_Chiasson\n62\tDET\tPaul_Ysebaert\n62\tPHI\tGarry_Galley\n61\tPIT\tShawn_McEachern\n60\tMTL\tMike_Keane\n60\tWPG\tDarrin_Shannon\n60\tNYI\tPat_Flatley\n60\tNJ\tBernie_Nicholls\n60\tQUE\tScott_Young\n59\tLA\tRob_Blake\n59\tPHI\tBrent_Fedyk\n57\tCHI\tSteve_Smith\n57\tWSH\tPat_Elynuik\n57\tNJ\tScott_Stevens\n57\tCGY\tSergei_Makarov\n57\tWPG\tFredrik_Olausson\n56\tVAN\tGreg_Adams\n56\tTB\tJohn_Tucker\n54\tCHI\tChristian_Ruuttu\n54\tCHI\tBrent_Sutter\n54\tCGY\tAl_MacInnis\n54\tNYR\tSergei_Nemchinov\n53\tHFD\tTerry_Yake\n53\tNYR\tDarren_Turcotte\n52\tNYI\tVladimir_Malakhov\n52\tVAN\tDixon_Ward\n52\tLA\tTomas_Sandstrom\n51\tBOS\tStephen_Leach\n51\tHFD\tPatrick_Poulin\n51\tWPG\tKeith_Tkachuk\n50\tNYI\tJeff_Norton\n50\tMTL\tDenis_Savard\n50\tTOR\tJohn_Cullen\n50\tWSH\tSylvain_Cote\n49\tNYR\tEd_Olczyk\n49\tSTL\tKevin_Miller\n49\tBOS\tDave_Poulin\n49\tVAN\tAnatoli_Semenov\n49\tPHI\tPelle_Eklund\n49\tWPG\tEvgeny_Davydov\n48\tMTL\tGilbert_Dionne\n48\tNJ\tJohn_MacLean\n48\tQUE\tMartin_Rucinsky\n48\tLA\tAlexei_Zhitnik\n48\tEDM\tPetr_Klima\n48\tEDM\tDoug_Weight\n47\tEDM\tShayne_Corson\n46\tEDM\tCraig_Simpson\n45\tWSH\tKelly_Miller\n45\tEDM\tDave_Manson\n44\tCHI\tMichel_Goulet\n44\tMTL\tMathieu_Schneider\n43\tDET\tBob_Probert\n43\tCGY\tPaul_Ranheim\n43\tOTT\tSylvain_Turgeon\n42\tMIN\tMark_Tinordi\n41\tOTT\tBob_Kudelski\n41\tDET\tNiklas_Lidstrom\n41\tOTT\tBrad_Shaw\n41\tEDM\tTodd_Elik\n41\tBOS\tVladimir_Ruzicka\n40\tMIN\tMike_McPhee\n40\tNYR\tEsa_Tikkanen\n40\tTOR\tDave_Ellett\n40\tNJ\tPeter_Stastny\n39\tLA\tCorey_Millen\n39\tNJ\tBobby_Holik\n39\tBUF\tYuri_Khmylev\n39\tTB\tAdam_Creighton\n39\tTOR\tWendel_Clark\n38\tVAN\tSergio_Momesso\n38\tNYR\tAlexei_Kovalev\n37\tTOR\tRob_Pearson\n37\tQUE\tValery_Kamensky\n37\tCHI\tDirk_Graham\n36\tNYR\tBrian_Leetch\n36\tEDM\tZdeno_Ciger\n35\tTOR\tPeter_Zezel\n35\tBOS\tTed_Donato\n33\tMIN\tNeal_Broten\n33\tHFD\tMikael_Nylander\n33\tPHI\tJosef_Beranek\n33\tCHI\tStephane_Matteau\n32\tEDM\tScott_Mellanby\n32\tDET\tKeith_Primeau\n32\tBUF\tWayne_Presley\n32\tNYI\tBrian_Mullen\n32\tPHI\tDmitri_Yushkevich\n32\tMTL\tGary_Leeman\n31\tBUF\tRichard_Smehlik\n31\tBOS\tSteve_Heinze\n31\tTOR\tDmitri_Mironov\n30\tCHI\tBrian_Noonan\n28\tWSH\tBob_Carpenter\n28\tSJ\tPat_Falloon\n27\tSTL\tIgor_Korolev\n27\tTB\tMikael_Andersson\n27\tNYI\tRay_Ferraro\n26\tBUF\tPetr_Svoboda\n26\tOTT\tMark_Lamb\n26\tNYR\tJames_Patrick\n25\tMTL\tBenoit_Brunet\n24\tNYI\tScott_LaChance\n24\tTOR\tBill_Berg\n23\tEDM\tMartin_Gelinas\n23\tWPG\tSergei_Bautin\n23\tEDM\tKevin_Todd\n21\tNYI\tDavid_Volek\n21\tNYI\tDarius_Kasparaitis\n21\tTB\tRoman_Hamrlik\n21\tMIN\tBrent_Gilchrist\n20\tNYR\tPhil_Bourque\n20\tDET\tJim_Hiller\n20\tPHI\tAndrei_Lomakin\n20\tHFD\tYvon_Corriveau\n19\tBUF\tDonald_Audette\n18\tBOS\tCam_Neely\n17\tCHI\tJoe_Murphy\n17\tSJ\tMark_Pederson\n16\tPIT\tMartin_Straka\n15\tNYR\tPeter_Andersson\n13\tNJ\tJanne_Ojanen\n13\tOTT\tTomas_Jelinek\n12\tMIN\tBobby_Smith\n11\tTB\tSteve_Kasper\n10\tSJ\tRay_Whitney\n9\tHFD\tRobert_Petrovicky\n9\tBUF\tViktor_Gordijuk\n8\tTOR\tJoe_Sacco\n8\tQUE\tMikhail_Tatarinov\n8\tSJ\tPeter_Ahola\n7\tCHI\tRob_Brown\n7\tBOS\tGlen_Murray\n6\tMIN\tBrian_Propp\n6\tHFD\tTim_Kerr\n5\tWSH\tReggie_Savage\n5\tLA\tRobert_Lang\n5\tSTL\tVitali_Prokhorov\n5\tDET\tViacheslav_Kozlov\n5\tEDM\tShaun_Van_Allen\n4\tBOS\tJozef_Stumpel\n4\tMIN\tDan_Quinn\n4\tPIT\tBryan_Fogarty\n3\tMTL\tOlav_Petrov\n3\tTB\tStan_Drulia\n2\tNJ\tClaude_Vilgrain\n2\tWSH\tJason_Woolley\n0\tQUE\tPeter_Forsberg\n0\tWSH\tBrian_Sakic\n0\tWSH\tRandy_Burridge\n0\tMTL\tPatrick_Kjellberg\n0\tOTT\tAlexei_Yashin\n0\tEDM\tDean_McAmmond\n0\tCGY\tCory_Stillman\n0\tTB\tBrent_Gretzky\n0\tBUF\tJason_Dawe\n0\tVAN\tIgor_Larionov\n0\tCHI\tSergei_Krivokrasov\n-- \nAndrew Scott                    | andrew@idacom.hp.com\nHP IDACOM Telecom Operation     | (403) 462-0666 ext. 253","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Rather than write my own, can anyone direct me to a package that will let me create\ncascaded popup menus in X windows.  For reasons of portability, the package should \nnot rely on any X toolkit other than XLib and the XT Intrinsics.  Something written\nin C++ would be nice, too.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nI asked around in one of the areas you suggested yourself, and presented\nthe information I got.  No mention of US landmines was given.\n\n\nOkay, so you are going to blindly believe in things without reasonable\nevidence?  I didn't realize you were a theist.  I am doubting a claim\npresented without any evidence to support it.  If you are able to present\nreal evidence for it, then great.  But unsupported claims, or even claims\nby such and such news agency will not be accepted.  If you want to\nstick to the sheer impossible, instead of the merely difficult, then\nfine.  \n\nThe statement that if such a fact is classified, then you \ncan't prove it, is a simple matter of pragmatics and the law.  If you \nhave access to classified information that you know to be classified,\nand you reveal it, there is a good chance that you or someone else \n(the person who revealed it to you), is going to jail.  \n\nI never said that you couldn't prove it to my satisfaction, I merely\nsaid that it was difficult.  (Who said I try and make things easy\nfor people I am arguing with :) (Unless of course, they need the\nhandicap).\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"*>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>\n                     Is this a joke ?\n                                      *>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>\n\n-- \n  ___________________________________________________________________  ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n Now which is it?  Are you going to comdemn national media, then turn around\n and use it to support some position you present?  Seems somewhat contradictory\n doesn't it.\n\nI believe this true when we speak of physical data, in the\nsense of pure science.  But when we speak of data that revolve\naround social sciences then we have to be careful.\n\n\nI quite agree.  But these are cases or 'news events' that contain\npolitics, social science information, sociology, etc.  and at\nbest are reflections of the group that reports them.\n\nAs you have pointed out, it is difficult to report that the\ntemperature was 98 degrees when it was 60 degrees and have\npeople believe you.\n\n\nYes and no.  The survey presented, according to Mr. Cramer,\na value called the median- which one used this makes us \nbelieve that 1\/2 of the males had 7.3 plus sex partners and\n1\/2 of the males had 7.3 or less sex partners.  Homosexuals\nare purported to make up only 1%.  In this case, the majority\nof people with 7.3 plus sex partners are heterosexual.\n\nIt is my feeling that median was not the intended word usage.\nBut if it is then we have little evidence to support Mr. Cramer\nclaims about gay promiscuity > hetero promiscuity.\n\n Very good- this is a point that I have tried to bring out,\nand as any network news program will show you, it is true.\n\nThe News Media is a business and as such becomes skewed because\nof where its loyalties lie.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":": \n: >In the official paper I got from Apple about the new docking station, Apple\n: >themselves called it the \"DuoDock Plus\".\n: \n:     What paper is that? It's been on the price list here at Dartmouth\n: since they released it and it has never been called the \"DuoDock Plus.\" \n\nIt was a paper from Apple Sweden that announced some new products (the new\ndocking station was only one of them), and the paper arrived before it showed\nup on the price list. I don't know if it's still called the \"DuoDock Plus\"\nin the price list, it could be a mistake by someone at Apple Sweden.\n\n\/Mats","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nSince the FBI's account of what happened is being contradicted on an\nincreasingly frequent basis by other officials investigating the\nfire, the most pernicious idea of all is believing that Big Brother\nis going to be well-behaved with respect to cryptographic keys.\n\nIn light of the very serious allegations with respect to the DOJ\nselling software to various other intelligence services, what do\nyou suppose the chances are of some future DOJ selling escrowed\nkeys to business firms?\n\nTrusting the government to be honest and fair is putting the \nfox in charge of protecting the chickens.\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I have an 8-bit serial card with two ports.  Each port has the option of\nusing IRQ 2,3,4 or 5.  I also have two serial ports on a multi-I\/O card,\nand the ports can be set to IRQ 3,4,5,7 or 9.  From other posts I've read,\nI get the impression that IRQ2 on the 8-bit card is the same as IRQ9 on\nthe multi-I\/O card.  Am I right?","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Maw Ying yuan wrote \u0019\n .................................\n...From: yuan@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Maw Ying Yuan)\n...Subject: Replacement for Program Manager and File Manager?\n...Message-ID: <C68G1G.JuJ@news.Hawaii.Edu>\n...Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1993 06:44:04 GMT\n...\n...replacements for Win3.1's Program Manager and File Manager?\n...yuan@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu :)\n .................................\n    Hi,\n      I've been using Plannet Crafter's \"Plug-in\" for Program Manager.\n      Its listed in most BBS'es as PLUGIN13.  Its an add-on which gives\n      some needed features to Progman; such as the ability to better\n      manage your groups, change your cursor and icons on the fly,\n      constant status of RAM and resources, \"Quick-menu\" (a drop-down\n      menu of DOS commands or app launcher), plus some other neat stuff.\n      Used it, liked it, and even reg'd it <G>.\n\n      If you can't find it anywhere, let me know and I'll zip it up and\n      mail it to you (shareware version, of course <g>...)\n\nAloha...\n---\n .. .es .. All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here.\n---\n . SLMR 2.1a . \n                                                   ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I have the following games for sale\/trade. Make an offer.\n\nCrystal Warriors\nJunction\nRevenge of Drancon\nPsychic World\nCastle of Illusion (starring Micky Mouse)\nChessmaster\n\n-- \nbrian\noplinger@ra.crd.ge.com","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nIn today's Jerusalem Post Magazine there is a feature story about the\nongoing restoration of synagogues in the Jewish Quarter.  The author,\nLeah Abramowitz, writes that there were FIFTY-SEVEN synagogues in the\nquarter in 1948, ALL of which were destroyed, some, she says, used as\ndonkey stables.  The building shells, that is.\n\nI still find it really, really hard to understand why the demolition\nof the buildings in front of the Kotel continues to evoke more outrage\nthan this.  Everything is so much cheaper when it happens to the Jews.\n\nWhy?\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I see a parallel between what I will stupidly call the \"homosexual\" \nissue and the \"atheist\" issue. Please take no offense at these\ncomparisons.\n\nThe homosexual \"feels\" things that I admit I do not \"feel\". \nHe learns that these feelings are classified as homosexual feelings\nand learns of a model of sexuality that seems to apply to\nhis feelings, which he then can fit with his experiences.\nThat is, this model gives him a sense of understanding his\nsituation. Models that do not match up with what he knows he\nfeels will be discarded. However, one wonders if once accepting\nthe idea of his being gay and deciding what exactly that\nmeans he will analyze all his feelings and experiences based on \nthe definition he has already accepted, which of course validates\nhis model.\n\nIf that was hard to understand now listen to my parallel.\n\nThe Christian \"feels\" things that an atheist claims he does not\nfeel. The Christian accepts the Christian theology as the true\ndescription of what his feelings mean. Once accepting this\nmodel he interprets his experiences with regards to this model\nwhich of course validates his Christianity.\n\nAs a reminder, I am a Christian, a Catholic, I don't hate \nhomosexuals or atheists, but am just trying to understand\nthem. I only compare them because they are both so foreign\nto me. Am I as blind to the homosexual as the atheist seems\nblind to me? Or am I as prejudiced against atheistic denial of\nreligious experience as the homosexual is prejudiced against \nattempts by society to deny his sexuality?\n\nOr am I just out to lunch, again?","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\tThis morning on CNN (tues April 27), Texas Cops say Arson is suspected\n\tbecause of two falsh points. CNN also stated that  _all_ surviors\n\tclaim the fires are FBI set.  Your argument are made-up, untrue\n\tand unverified at best.\n\n    The day of the attack the FBI claimed to have seen two BD'ers setting\n    the fire outside of the compound. Yesterday, the arson squad said two \n    flash points at the or near the tank entry points\n\n    Not good evidence for the FBI hit squad.\n\n  is there a difference between thinking that you won't survive a confrontation\n  with the FBI (parnoia?) and committing suicide?\n\n\n\tNo, claimed by the escapees  not contradicted\n\n\tWhat I'm finding interesting is the conflicting reports. FBI says\n\tthat bodies have been found with bullet wounds and the Texas Cornuers\n\t(sp) says that they haven't yet found any bullet holes..\n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Roger,\n\n\t    SHUT UP.\n\n \tThank you.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"whitsebd@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu (Bryan Whitsell) writes,\n\n\nBut that is exactly what I was asking. If the Homosexual community (is that\nthe proper term?) has decided that Christianity is not against Homosexual \nbehaviour but rather condones it then how do they interpret these verses. I\nguess what I am really looking for is a \"homosexual\" response.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"hi,\n  just a quick question reguarding pc tape backup. I own a 386 dos box\nand have an Archive VP402 interface card connected to a QIC-02 tape\ndrive. Now the simple question is, does anybody in netland know were I\ncan get some software for msdos (ver 5.0) to run this setup, freeware\nor shareware preferred .\n\nThanks in advance,\n                   Darryl","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"What kind of CSA\/UL\/FCC approval do $60+ mail-order PC computer\ncases and power supplies have?  \n\nCan I assume that the certification process for small-scale custom hardware\n(ie digital\/analog circuitry) is reduced, or even eliminated, if I use\nsuch a case and (certified) power supply?","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nI have a little answer:\n\nSee Foley, van Dam, Feiner, and Hughes, _Computer Graphics: Principles\nand Practice, Second Edition_.\n\n[If people would *read* this book, 75 percent of the questions in this\nfroup would disappear overnight...]\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\tspl","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"We have seen lots of discussion on automobile engine configuration. Let me ask \na similar question from the aviation field. You must have seen images of prop \nplanes with all cylinders exposed. I have seen up to 8 cylinders positioned \nradially in a circular fashion with the prop at the center of the circle. \nThis arrangement always brings up a geometric dilemma. How can one crankshaft \nthrow accomodate 8 rods or are the pistons displaced but not visible from the \noutside.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I'm\nthe\ntickets\n\nGrrrr, let's start a whole 'nother topic on show bad the sharks are doing on\nthese things. I swear that ALL of my partial plan games were televised (I\nknow, I'm exaggerating, but...).\nIn order:\n-the new ticket prices suck\n-wait 'till people try to park at games next year. Public transit? Yeah\nright, I'd love to take caltrain for 3 hours to see a 3 hour game.\n\nShelling out hundreds of dollars for partial season plans for two years\ndoesnt mean anything to the sharks, as I get to pick my seats after the dead\nrise from their graves to claim their seats! :-)\n-Frank","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
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{"text":"\n\n   Before the S4 became the S4 it was called the 200 turbo quattro 20v.\n   This model did come in a wagon, a very quick wagon.  Very rare also.\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t      Mike Sylvester  Umass\n\nBeing a satisfied Audi owner (-90 100 turbo quattro. my 4:th Audi) I\nget the free VAG magazine. The latest issue presented a new S4 Avant\n(wagon) with a 4.2 litre V8. I'd like one of these ;-)\n\nBtw, this is my second quattro and my third turbo and I must say that\neven in the summer, with dry roads, the quattros give so much extra in\nroad holding and balance that I hope I can afford them always.\n\nThomas","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nUPI, and the newspapers who are reporting this being all owned by Saudis\nI wonder how secure they are feeling by reporting all of these things,\nmaybe Saudi Arabia is allowed to have all the human rights violations\nit can have, nobody is including them in any list,.. those are designed\nfor independent states.\n\n\nwhy is this reported from Cairo?\n\n.....\n\nCan somebody teach this man some logic?\nwhat is the relationship between a human rights league in  Saudia\nand human rights in Bosnia, I guess if we wanted to know what is\nin Italy, we should know what is in Brasil (Syrian Joke)\n\n\ntheir claim of following Islamic law is the biggest disservice\nthat they ever did to Islam.\n\n...\n\nBut how about human rights in Egypt Mr Amin?","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I originally posted this to alt.suicide.holiday but it was recommended\nthat I try you guys instead:\n\nMy friend insists that Ny-Quil can be deadly if enough is taken -- he\nsuggested something like 20-30 of the Night-time gelcaps would do someone\nin.  Being a NORMAL user of Ny-Quil :), I checked the 'ingredients' and\nhave a very hard time believing it.  They are:\n\n250 g acetaminophen\n30 mg Pseudoephedrine HCl\n10 mg Dextromethorphan HBr\n6.25 mg Doxylamine Succinate\n\n(per softgel)\n\nCan someone settle our bet (a package of Ny-Quil of course :) -- what \neffect would 20-30 of these babies have?\n\n*-Nathan-*\n\n-- ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Harvested to order?\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nReboost may not be a problem, if they have enough fuel.  If they don't do a \nreboost this time, they will definitely have to do one on the next servicing\nmission.  But try to land a shuttle with that big huge telescope in the \nback and you could have problems.  The shuttle just isn't designed to land \nwith that much weight in the payload.\n\n\nof course that is a concern too, and the loss of science during the time\nthat it is on the ground.  plus a fear that if it comes down, some\nbig-wig might not allow it to go back up.  but the main concern, I\nbelieve is the danger of the landing.  Just to add another bad vibe,\nthey also increase the risk of damaging an instrument.  Finally, \nthis is a chance for NASA astronanuts to prove they could build and\nservice a space station.  Hubble was designed for in flight servicing.\n\nbringing the telescope down, to my understanding, was considered\neven very recently, but all these factors contribute to the \ndecision to do it the way it was planned in the beginning.\n\n\nROB\n-- \n===========================================================================\n===========================================================================\n\nDisclaimer-type-thingie>>>>>  These opinions are mine!  Unless of course \n\tthey fall under the standard intellectual property guidelines. \n\tBut with my intellect, I doubt it.  Besides, if it was useful\n\tintellectual property, do you think I would type it in here?","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I have also been looking for this, but I have come up with nothing.\nI have looked in ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu which is supposed to have a lot\nof image-specs.\n\nEmail is preferred. If there is enough interest, I will post a \nsummary.\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------         ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nGenerally, the second or third major release usually takes care of it.\nMy advice, based on plenty of personal experience, is to never buy the\nfirst version of anything from Microsoft.  This includes major version\nnumber upgrades from previous releases, such as Microsoft C 6.00.\nAlways wait at least for the \"a\" upgrade or slipstream upgrade if\nyou're going to buy it.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nDear Senator\/Congressman\/President {fill in the blank}\n\nI am writing you to voice my strong opposition to President Clinton's Clipper \nChip initiative. This proposal to establish a secret government designed\ncryptography chip with government key registration as the standard for voice\nencryption is very disturbing. The idea that citizens must register their \nsecrets with the government just in case they are trying to keep them secret \nis patently unAmerican. Additionally, the press release for this program\nstrongly implied that other forms of cryptography would be banned after the \nClipper Chip standard is in place. This latest attack on our civil rights is \ndeeply disturbing and is frankly a voting issue for me. \n\nThe presidents press release stated that the plan strikes a balance between the\nlegitimate needs of law enforcement and a citizens right to privacy but this \nis not the case. The fact is that since other strong cryptographic equipment \nis avalible the criminals, drug dealers and terrorists mentioned in the press \nrelease will simply use non clipper cryptography. Meanwhile the average citizen\nmay gain no protection against warentless wiretaps by the government since the \ngovernment escrowed key is derived deterministicly from the unit serial number\nwhich is broadcast by the chip durring its opperation. This seems like an \nobvious back door for the NSA and law enforcement. If you still do nott \nunderstand my objection to key registration, consider the way J. Edgar Hoover \nblackmailed government officials like yourself; would you now use a phone to \ntransmit personal details of your life that the NSA and FBI have the keys to?\n\n\n______________________________________________________________________________\nWell heres a letter, I didnt spell check it since I dont know how in EMACS\nso you might want to do that. ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"For Sale:\n\n   Amiga 3000\/16\n   6 megs RAM\n   1950 Monitor\n   extra external hard drive\n   Much sotware games\/graphics\/productivity\/etc...\n\n   USR HST 14.4 Modem  (not dual standard)\n\n\n   Amiga\/software:   $ 950\n   USR HST Modem :   $ 250\n\n   Price for both:   $1100\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"dear pete,\n\nfor one who is so zionist as you, you should at least know your\nhebrew, young man.\n\nThe last sentence in your posting should read:\n\nMedina achat leshnai amim (not Echad medionnot leshtai amim).\n\nI don't want to address your comments. They speak for themselves.\n\nbest regards from a Palestinian of Jewish origin who talks, reads and writes\nHebrew and does not hate Jews nor anybody else. ","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\nIronic, since it's pretty much what was used to blow up the World Trade\nCenter...\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"RFD \n                          Request For Discussion                   \n                                for the\n                          OPEN  TELEMATIC GROUP\n \n                                  OTG\n \n \n \n \nI have proposed the forming of a consortium\/task force for the promotion\nof NAPLPS\/JPEG, FIF to openly discuss ways, method, \nprocedures,algorythms,\napplications, implementation, extensions of NAPLPS\/JPEG standards.\nThese standards should facilitate the creation of REAL_TIME Online\napplications that make use of Voice, Video, Telecommuting, HiRes \ngraphics,\nConferencing, Distant Learning, Online order entry, Fax,in addition\nthese dicussion would assist all to better understand how SGML,CALS,\nODA,MIME,OODBMS,JPEG,MPEG,FRACTALS,SQL,CDrom,cdromXA,Kodak PhotoCD,TCL,\nV.FAST,EIA\/TIA562,can best be incorporated and implemented to\ndevelop TELEMATIC\/Multimedia applications....\n \nWe want to be able to support DOS, UNIX, MAC, WINDOWS, NT, OS\/2 \nplatforms.\nIt is our hope that individuals,developers, corporations, Universities,\nR & D labs would join in in supporting such an endeavor.\n \nThis would be a NOT_FOR_PROFIT group with bylaws and charter. Already \nmany\ncorporation have decided to support OTG (Open TELEMATIC Group) so do not \ndelay joining if you are a developer\n \nAn RFD has been posted to form a usenet newsgroup and a FAQ will soon be \nbe compose to start promulgating what is known on the subject.\nIf you would like to be added to the mailist send email or mail to\nthe address below. \n \nThis group would publish an electronic quarterly NAPLPS\/JPEG newsletter\nas well as a hardcopy version.\nWe urge all who wants to see CMCs HiRes based applications\n& the NAPLPS\/JPEG G R O W,  decide to join and mutually benefit from \nthis NOT-FOR_PROFIT endeavor.\n \nNOTE: Telematic has been defined by Mr. James Martin as the marriage\n      of Voice, Video, Hi-res Graphics, Fax, IVR, Music over telephone\n      lines\/LAN.\n \n \n \nIf you would like to get involve write to me at:\n \n  \n \n  IMG Inter-Multimedia Group| Internet:  epimntl@world.std.com \n  P.O. Box 95901            |            ed.pimentel@gisatl.fidonet.org \n  Atlanta, Georgia, US      | CIS     :  70611,3703           \n                            | FidoNet :  1:133\/407          \n                            | BBS     :  +1-404-985-1198 zyxel 14.4k\n  \nTo all that have responded we are trying to acknowledge as soon as\npossible. We have really been inundated with org, corp, edu willing\nto get involve.\nIt would be nice if upon responded you can state in what capacity\nyou are willing to get involve.\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nSorry, Sherri, but I can't agree with this particular incident.  While\nI'm all for cutting down the number of chain-rattles and other examples\nof rampant Hargroving, there was a difference here.\n\n1)  Since time immemorial, batters have complained about calls.\nSo have pitchers and catchers.  Usually, nothing happens.\nUnless the league notified teams this year about not allowing\ncomplaints, Hirschbeck was acting against expectations.\n\n2)  It's not as if Gant was \"in Hirschbeck's face\".  Gant said\nsomething about the call, stepped out of the box, and turned away\nfrom Hirschbeck.  As a hitter (alibet of little consequence, but\nwith a decent eye), whenever receiving the short end of the stick\non a questionable call, I'd want a moment or two out of the box,\nif for no other reason than to rethink the strike zone based on\nthe experience of the last pitch.  And if I was really angry\nat the ump, I'd rather turn away and catch my breath than\nturn to him and say something that might get me tossed,\nespecially at a key moment in the game.\n\nWhen Gant turned away, Hirschbeck IMMEDIATELY motioned for Gant\nto step into the box.  IMO, at this point in time, Hirschbeck\nwas determined to show Gant exactly WHO was in charge of this game.\nGant wasn't dawdling; he hadn't had a chance to dawdle.  And Hirschbeck\nwas simply exercising a power play.  Gant resisted, as many of\nus might to what we thought was an unreasonable request, and\nHirschbeck called for the pitch.  At that point, Cox came out on\nthe field, the pitch was thrown, and many other Braves left the\ndugout.  Cox was tossed \"protecting his player\".  I was pleasantly\nsurprised that Gant kept his cool enough to stay in the game.\n\nIt's a small sample size, but based on what I saw in that game,\nMark Hirschbeck has a hair-trigger temper and a need to play\nGod on the field.  Not good qualities for an umpire.  I will\nkeep my eyes open for future appearances of Hirschbeck in the \nfuture, in order to improve my sample size.\n\nIMO, any game where you remember the name of the umpire was\na bad game for the umpire.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\tI looked up \"might\" to see why you selected that particular word,\nand discovered the line \". . . to express permission, liberty,\nprobability, possibility . . .\"  It also said something about being a\n\"polite\" alternative to \"may.\"  The presence of \"probability, possibility\"\ncan certainly be used to partially explain your word selection.  \nSo, I'd say to all extents and purposes, \"Yes, you might.\"  In fact, you did.\n(Not that you were asking *me* specifically.)\n\n\tThe next question is, why would a mailing list be \"more\" appropriate?\nWe don't all get mailing lists.  We surely don't all get mailing lists about\nthe teams about which we are most enthused.  So it seems to me r.s.baseball\nis an appropriate place to look for information about teams one doesn't\nnecessarily follow day-to-day.\n\n\tThis is not intended as flamage, but rather is an attempted answer,\nas you posed your post as a question.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I am looking for statistics on the prevalence of disorders that are\ntreatable with Botulinum Type A.  These disorders include: facial\ndyskinesia, meige syndrome, hemifacial spasm, apraxia of eyelid openeing,\naberrant regeneration of the facial nerve, facial paralysis, strabismus,\nspasmodic torticollis, muscle spasm, occupational dystonia (i.e. writers\ncramp, etc.), spasmodic dysphonia, and temporal mandibular joint disease.\n\nI realize many of the disorders I listed (such as \"muscle spasm\" !!) are\nvaguely defined and may encompass a wide range of particular disorders.  My\napologies; the list was provided to me as is.  I have some numbers, but not\nreliable.  \n\nAny ideas on sources or, even bbetter, any actual figures (with source\nlisted)?\n\nMany thanks,\n\n- Meg","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"O\n\nI also would like code or algorithms to do this.\n\nIn fact, I am interested in sources for code and\/or algorithms that\nconvert 2D graphical objects into other 2D graphical objects that\nwill render into the same image. i.e. Bezier curves to B splines,\nor splines to circular arc segments, or B splines to polgons, etc...\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nThe proposal could be modified so that if they get a court order to tap you\nand don't charge you with a crime within, say, 90 days, they have to buy you\na new phone.\n\nIf they do charge you, and you are found innocent, they have to buy you a\nnew phone.\n\n:-)\n\nDavid\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"----- Begin Included Message -----\n\nThe following teaching is brought to you on behalf of Malcolm Smith\nMinistries, a ministry dedicated to leading believers everywhere into a\nknowledge of the love of God.  If you would like more info on the ministry,\nand\/or would like to comment on whether you found this teaching beneficial,\ne-mail to Randy Hunt at rlhunt@hou.amoco.com.\n\n\nLOVE IN THE MORNING  (Psalm 90:14)\n\nby Malcolm Smith\n\nMoses wrote this prayer at a weary time in the history of Israel. A generation\nbefore the time of its writing, the people of Israel had stood at Kadesh,\ngateway to Canaan, and made the fateful choice to go their own way rather\nthan God's way. They refused an adventure of faith in God which would\nhave given them Canaan, the homeland of promise. God honored their\ndecision, and said they would wander in the desert only a few miles from the\nland of promise until they were all buried in the sand. The young decision-\nmakers of that fateful day were between twenty and thirty years old, and\ndestined to be dead within forty years... bleached bones in the desert by the\ntime they were seventy-- eighty, at the most. The lives of these wanderers\nhad been unending sadness. Moses described it as ending each year with a\nsigh (v. 9). The fact that they knew, give or take a few months, when they\nwere going to die, underscored the meaninglessness of their existence.\nWhatever heights of success they reached, they would be a heap of bleached\nbones within forty years.  The only ones to live outside of that depression of\nhopeless disbelief were Joshua and Caleb, who had stood against the nation\nat Kadesh and had God' s promise of one day entering the land. The\nforty-year period was finally drawing to an end. The new generation, those\nwho were children at Kadesh, were now grown and eager to take the\ninheritance their parents had refused to enjoy. In the light of this, Moses\nprays...it is time for a new day to begin and the days of misery to be over.\nAll these years, as Moses had walked with these moaning and complaining\npeople through the wilderness of their exile, he had carried a double burden.\nHis was not only the sadness of living in less than what could have been; but\nhe also knew why they had chosen as they had at Kadesh.  The problem was\nthat they were ignorant of the character of their God. If asked. \"Who is your\nGod?\" they would have described Him as the God who is Power. When\nAaron had created their concept of God in an idol. he chose a calf. or young\nbull--a symbol of power, of virility. In their minds, God was the young bull\nwho had impaled Pharaoh on his horns and gored Egypt's gods as He led\nIsrael to Sinai.  But when man worships a God of power, His miracles grow\nthin and even boring. After miracle food on the desert floor and water\ngushing miraculously from the solid rock through the desert wasteland, the\nGod of Almightiness becomes \"ho-hum --What' s next on the miracle menu?\"\nAnd a God of power can be as unpredictable as a young bull calf. He might\nbe all they need, but then...who knows? If He has all power, He has a right\nto do whatever He wants, whenever He wants. The only person these people\nhad known who had absolute power was Pharaoh, and men's lives had hung\non the whim of his moods, which could change with the wind. They believed\nGod could work His wonders on their behalf, but they did not know HIM\nand, so, could not trust Him. Israel had a God based on what He DID, His\nacts; Moses knew the heart of God, the motivation behind the acts. From the\nday of his encounter at the burning bush, Moses had been fascinated by God.\nAt Sinai, he asked to be shown His glory...to know who He really was. He\nhad seen what God had done; he wanted to know who God was. This\nrequest was granted, and Moses was given a glimpse of God's glorious\nPerson. He had come to know the heart of God as compassion and\nlovingkindness (Exodus 34:6,7). The word \"lovingkindness\" is not to be\nunderstood as a human kind of love. It speaks of the kind of relationship\narising out of the making of a covenant. It can only be understood as the\nlove that says, \"I will never leave you nor forsake you.\" Lovingkindness is as\ntenacious as a British bulldog; when the world walks out, this love digs in its\nheels and refuses to leave.And it is not human romantic love, based on\nfeelings and rooted in emotions. It is a love of covenant commitment and,\ntherefore, operates quite apart from feelings. God's love is not an emotion\nthat wavers day by day; it is the total commitment of His Being to seek our\nhighest and best, and to bring us to our fullest potential as humans. God\ndoes not see something good and beautiful in us which arouses His feelings\nof love toward us...we do not woo Him and cause Him to fall in love with\nus! If that were the case, the first ugly, sinful thing we did would cause Him\nto reject us.  He is Love, and He loves us because of who He is-- not\nbecause of who we are. He does not love what we do, but He is committed\nto us, pursuing us down every blind alley and bypath of foolishness. He will\nnot let us go. His is a love that is not looking for what it can get out of us--\nbut a committed love that searches for opportunities to give to us. It is\nsaying to the recipient, \"For as long as we shall live, I am for you.\"  The God\nwho has revealed Himself to man through Scripture and, finally, in Jesus--in\nHis coming, and in His death and resurrection--is the God who is\nlovingkindness. Thus He loves us and gives Himself to us...He will never\nleave us nor forsake us.  Tragically, many believers have never seen Him as\nlove; they see Him as power. No one will come to faith by just seeing\nmiracles. Miracles point to who He is, and that is when faith springs in the\nheart.  Israel did not see God as lovingkindness; they saw His acts of power.\nMoses knew His ways, the kind of God He was, and the love that He had for\nthese people. Because of their total lack of understanding of His love, they\ncould not trust Him to be their strength in taking the land. Faith is born out\nof knowing the love He has for us; it is the resting response to the One who\ngives Himself to us. He is not the force, and to call Him the Almighty is to\nmiss His heart. He is Love who is the Almighty and the Infinite Force.  If\nman is to make force or raw power work for him, he must depend on\nknowing the forrnula and have faith in it. But the power that issues from\nlove demands faith in the Person of love Himself. The forty years of\nmeaningless wandering was a monument to a people who had never come to\nknow the God of love.  At this point, with the new generation and the\npossibility of enjoying all that God promised, Moses prays verse 14. The\nlanguage Moses uses is reminiscent of a baby having slept secure in its\nmother's love, now waking to look up into the delight of her eyes. It is\nwaking to the consciousness of being loved... watched over, cared for,\nprotected, fed, and cleaned, day and night, by the mother. Suppose we were\nto ask, \"What has the baby done to deserve this?\" or, \"Have arrangements\nbeen made for the child to repay the parents for this inconvenience?\" Our\nquestions would be considered unnatural, even immoral. The child was\nconceived in love, anticipated and prepared for with love's excitement, a love\nthat has been to the gates of death to bring it into being. The parents' love is\nunconditional, spontaneous...it has nothing to do with the looks of the child\nor its performance. So God is love. He loves us unconditionally,\nspontaneously. We were conceived in His imagination and fashioned after\nHis image, to be brought to where we are at this moment by the blood of the\nLord Jesus. It is slanderous, and immoral, to even ask what we must do to\nearn and deserve that love. The child discovers its personhood and identity\nthrough the eyes and touch, through the cuddles, of its parents' love. It is a\nscientific fact that a baby who is not touched and held will probably die or, if\nit survives, will have severe emotional problems. And a person who has been\nheld and loved will still never know the true meaning of life without the\nembrace and knowledge of love from God. Moses prays that the new\ngeneration will learn to wake every morning, resting with total confidence in\nthe love of God. and will receive all His promises and blessings with joy and\ngladness. Significantly, Moses prays that they will be SATISFIED with His\nlove. \"Satisfied.\" in the Hebrew language. is a rich picture word describing\nbeing filled with an abundance of gourmet food. It is also used to describe\nthe earth after the rain has soaked it and all the vegetation has received\nenough water. Moses prays that they will awaken every morning to be\ndrenched in the life-giving love of God. That sense of satisfaction is the\nlifelong quest of every man and woman. When we are satisfied in our\ndeepest selves, many of our emotional--and even our physical--problems\ndisappear. Man seeks that sense of satisfaction which comes from feeling\nthat he is fulfilled as a human being...his hours have meaning, which make\nsense out of the ordinary and mundane. Apart from God, man seeks this\nsatisfaction through intellectual pursuit, through the exciting of the\nemotions, and through the feeding of his body...he will even seek it in\nreligious exercise. But man will always be dissatisfied until he is responding\nto the love of the living God. Only in knowing God's love will the rest of life\nmake sense. As the forty years drew to a close and the land of promise again\nbecame the inheritance to be taken, Moses prayed this psalm. I find it\nfascinating that he  should pray and ask God for a daily revelation of His\nlove. Considering the awe with which the people held Moses. one would\nthink he could have lectured them on the subject of lovingkindness and, by\nthe knowledge they gained, they would live in it. But Moses knew\nbetter. God is the only one who can make known to us His love. We won't\nfind it in a religious lecture or a formula which we can learn and use to\nmanipulate Him. Nor is it in a beautiful poem to titillate our emotions and\ngive us God feelings. It is God, himself, the Lover, who must open our eyes\nand satisfy us with His love. This prayer is man, in helplessness, asking God\nto make the love He is real in our hearts. Moses' prayer was partially\nanswered in the next generation and seen in the exploits of faith which\nworked by love in The Book of Judges. But it would not be answered in its\nfullest dimensions until the coming of the Holy Spirit, who pours out the\nlove of God in our hearts (Romans 5:5). In the history of the early Church,\nwe read of the Holy Spirit \"falling upon\" the believers. This is an ancient\nexpression that, in modern English, means to give a bear hug. It is used in\nLuke 15 to describe the father running to the prodigal and \"falling on his\nneck and kissing him.\" The Holy Spirit is God hugging you in your deepest\nself and smothering you with divine kisses at the deepest level of your\nbeing. This is not a one-time experience to be filed in our spiritual resumes.\nMoses prayed that morning by morning we would awaken to the realization\nthat we are loved. The world, and much of our religious training, has taught\nus to perform in order to be accepted. We have spent far too long living in a\nstate of doing in order to find satisfaction for ourselves...to find acceptance\nand love from others, and from God. We now come humbled to receive love\nwe cannot earn...to be still and let Him tell us we are loved: to let the Holy\nSpirit descend into us, pouring out the love of God. We come in stillness to\nthink on and repeat His words of love to our minds. which have been jaded\nwith the doctrine of \"perform to be accepted.\" We begin to realize that He\nloves us as we are, and gives meaning and purpose to all of life. I challenge\neveryone reading this to begin each day, from the moment you open your\neyes, by celebrating the God of love and praying this prayer. You may not\nfeel anything, but SOMETHING ALWAYS HAPPENS. I was X-rayed the\nother day. I did not see or feel anything, but I noted that the technicians kept\nbehind protective walls. They know you cannot be exposed to those rays\nwithout being affected. So it is as we consciously begin our day knowing\nthat we are loved. Such experiential knowledge will produce, according to\nMoses, \"joy and gladness all our days.\" Joy is the result of a life that is\nfunctioning as God intended us to function when He made us. You might say\nthat joy is the hum of an engine that is at peak performance. Man' s highest\nperformance is to rest in the love God has for him... the hum will be joy, and\nthe result will be endless creativity arising from the sense of meaning he now\nhas in life. Stop wandering in the wilderness. Be satisfied with His love and,\nin joy, day by day, receive all His promised blessings.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nYeah right, sorta like the Indian sub-contient, eh?","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nNot useful unless you've got some truly wonderful propulsion system for\nthe mother ship that can't be applied to the probes.  Otherwise it's\nbetter to simply launch the probes independently.  The outer planets\nare scattered widely across a two-dimensional solar system, and going\nto one is seldom helpful in going to the next one.  Uranus is *not* on\nthe way to Neptune.  Don't judge interplanetary trajectories in general\nby what the Voyagers did:  they exploited a lineup that occurs only\nevery couple of centuries, and even so Voyager 2 took a rather indirect\nroute to Neptune.\n\n\nSolar sails are pretty useless in the outer solar system.  They're also\nvery slow, unless you assume quite advanced versions.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I have a few italian made stering silver necklace for sale.\n\nsize are 20\" , 24\" or 26\"(?)\nI have it as low as 2.00$+shipping(less than .29cents)\nrope design necklace weight around 9 grams 20\" for 9.00$ or so.\nrope desgin necklace weight around 25 gram 20\" for 17.00$ or so.\n\n\nI only have a few left.\nplease respond ASAP.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"NOTE - local tx groups trimmed out of Newsgroups: line\n\n<\n<In article <1r208f$bp2@transfer.stratus.com>, cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D.\n<>No, you were right the first time.  Law enforcement agencies should keep\n<>HIS opinions in mind before breaking into or assaulting ANYBODY'S house.\n<\n<OK, let me correct my unfortunate choice of words:  I just hope that the\n<law enforcement agencies keep your attitude in mind the next time your\n<wife is gang-raped by a bunch of juvenile, drug-dealing thugs while she\n<was jogging in the park.  No, strike that... (etc.)\n<\n<>The BATF came out with horse trailers, 100 men, ninja uniforms, machine \n<>guns, and stun grenades, and used them before Koresh could even look \n<>at the warrant.  Koresh fought back, and people died.\n<\n<The key part of this sentense is \"Koresh fought back.\"  This was his big\n<mistake.  When the police decide to exert their authority over you, you\n<don't fight back unless you want people to get hurt.  You cease all\n<resistance and signal your submission to their authority.  The cops\n\nThey are the BOSS.  You are the SUBJECT.  The concept of defense against\nillegal action under color of law is kaput.  No longer is it government\nof the people by the people, its government of the people by the biggest\nguns.  The idea of 'sorting it out in court later' is fine, but one\nhas to GET TO COURT IN ONE PIECE to do that.  Korash had good reason\nto think that he was not going to get that chance.  (see below).\n\n<aren't in it to beat up and kill people, in spite of the actions of a\n<few bad apples.  If you quit resisting, they quit hitting.  Perhaps the\n<BATF did over react to the threat posed by Koresh.  Perhaps they did use\n<too much force.  OK, fine.  I'm willing to concede to that point if\n<sufficient proof is produced (and I admit that there is some evidence to\n<indicate this).  However, resisting the BATF is the worst thing Koresh\n<could have done.  If they hadn't resisted, there is a good chance that\n<no one would have been hurt.  Remeber, they were using stun grenades,\n<not anti-personnel grenades.  If the BDs were not in violation of any\n\nRember, Korash didn't get to sort this all out, serenely typing at his\nkeyboard.  He heard SOME KIND OF EXPLOSIVES go off, he saw he was being\nATTACKED with no overt action from him (yet).  He could no more say 'oh,\nits ok, its only stun grenades' anymore than I could.  He slammed the door at\nthat point and proceeded to repel the attackers.  He felt in genuine fear\nof his life - I know I would be in fear of MY life at that point.  Have\nyou ever been shot at?  How clear and logically could you think, under\nthat pressure, when you MIGHT have ALL OF 1 or 2 SECONDS to evaluate\nwhat is going on?  And, it would not be the first time that 'law\nenforcements' intended to bring in their suspect horizontally.  For\nall we know, he was informed by someone saying something like \"Hey,\nguy, the BATF is coming like gangbusters, and they mean to WASTE you...\"\n\nAccording to the latest news, the released warrant (so we are told) said\nthe reason for this WW III raid was that Korash's group had spent around\n$200,000.00 on firearms and related stuff (over an undetermined period).\nNow, even assuming that the figure isn't calculated like the Feds do a\ndrug siezure, for 90 people, that isn't really all that much (you priced\ndecent guns lately?).  Hell, I can think of a person right now that probably\nhas that much for ONE INDIVIDUAL, mostly machineguns!!!  Sure, he is\nan avid collector, but unless a new law has been passed, it is NOT illegal,\nnor an indication of anything illegal, to have a lot of guns.  Also note\nthat the warrant had NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT MACHINE GUNS.  So, what\nis the justification of this cowboy raid, other than a romp gone bad\nfor some anti-gun media hype, to support Clinton's push for disarming\nthe unconnected citizen of any and all effective defensive weapons?\nThis administration has only one thing in mind.  CONTROL.  PEOPLE CONTROL.\nWhether it is gun control, Clinton Cripple Chip, National smart ID cards,\nit all boils down to PEOPLE CONTROL.  Can you say 1984, only 10 years late?\nI knew you could...  :-)\n\n<laws, they would have been released as they had been before.  If this\n<had happened and it turned out that the BATF had used too much force,\n<then the BDs would have grounds for a law suit and for federal charges\n<of civil rights violations (Sounds a lot like LA, huh?  Don't take that\n<wrong, I'm not commenting one way or the other about the Rodney King\n<case).  But that's not what they wanted.  They got tipped off that the\n<BATF was on the way in, and rather than adopting a non-violent,\n<non-threatening posture to greet the BATF, they decided to fight.\n\nAnd BATF knew the BDs were expecting them (via 60 minutes report).  But\nthey decided they were so big, so bad, they would have a cakewalk at\nthe BDs expense, for a nice media show anyway.  But it all turned to\nshit, and the FBI taking over to manage things, we see it all turned to\nshit, too.  Clinton says 'I am taking full responsibility'...  BAH.\nResponsibility means to take the repercussions if it goes wrong.  Bet\nyou NOBODY pays any serious repercussions.  'Responsibility' only has\nmeaning as media PR, or as a means to corner the average Joe Schmoe.\nFigure it out... Clinton, Reno, the FBI and BATF, will all be IMMUNE.\nCan you say WHITEWASH?\n\n<I've said enough of this issue.  I'm probably not going to convince any\n<of you folks and you're certainly not going to convince me.  I've got\n<work to do.\n<\n<\t\t\t\t++Don\n\nBe VERY afraid of our government.  In the land of the free...\nAnd if you decide all this is acceptable, get even MORE afraid... especially\nwhen it is YOU they decide, for some reason, they dislike...\nWhen they no longer feel the need to confine their cowboy tactics to\n'kooks', or 'wierdos'...\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nGo the speed limit.  As long as your not at the salt flats, you arn't gonna \nfrag yer ride.  I wouldn't ride the DoD minimum until it had 500+ miles on \nit, but hell, I do that on a good weekend!\n\n ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====----","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I have the following items that I have no further use for and am will\nto accept best offers on either or both.\n\nBrand new DECserver 300\n\t&\nDECserver 200\/MC\n\nIf you are interested, send your best offers.\n\nThanks \n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I read an article about a poll done of students at the Ivy League\nschools in which it was reported that a third of the students\nindentified themselves as atheists.  This is a lot higher than among the\ngeneral population.  I wonder what the reasons for this discrepancy are?\nIs it because they are more intelligent?  Younger?  Is this the wave of\nthe future?","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Quantum LPS240A hard disk phantom seeks\n\nI just purchased and installed a 240MB Quantum 3.5\" hard drive, model\nLPS240A, and have a concern about its behavior.\n\nAlthough the disk drive itself seems to behave properly with respect to\nfile I\/O, it performs what I call phantom seeks.\n\nWhen the PC is absolutely idle, I can hear a spurt of activity in the\ndrive every 30-40 seconds, lasting 1-2 seconds. This activity seems to\nbe initiated strictly within the drive itself since the disk LED never\ncomes on. [The disk LED is attached to the disk controller card, not\nthe drive.]\n\nMy other hard disk, a Seagate ST3283A, does not have this kind\nbehavior.\n\nCan anyone comment on this strange phenomenon?\n\n--\n---------------------\nSteve Harrold\t\t\tswh@cup.hp.com\n\t\t\t\tHPG200\/11\n\t\t\t\t(408) 447-5580","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nBut I don't want to have to run blasted Windows every time I want to delete\na tree - it is absolutely ludicrous to load a hog like that just to delete\nsome files!  It would be like requiring a crane to change the tyre on a car.\n\n\nOnly because its crap, which is noones fault but their own.\n\n\nBy deliberately crippling the product?  Surely no...\n\nOh, hold on, I guess you're right.  That certainly stinks of MicroSoft\nmarketing techniques.\n\nBut the point still remains that a command to delete trees is not new\ntechnology, and is the kind of thing one would have expected to see long\nbefore Windows was even dreamt of.\n\n\nWell Amen to that, but I wish it were a damn sight deader.  For a dead\nproduct, its used an awful lot.  And I suspect its going to carry on\ntwitching for a long while yet, which isn't doing anyone any good.\n\n(And MicroSoft don't appear to have given up marketing DOS, so it is a very\nunusual form of death indeed).\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n                        ^^^^^^^\n\nA convention for Santa Claus impersonators?  Please elaborate, enquiring minds\n(those in the second and third jars from the left) want to know....","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Hi all,\n\nMy skin is very dry in general. But the most serious part is located\nfrom knees down. The skin there looks like segmented. The segmentation\nactually happens beneath the skin. I would like to know if there is any\ncure for this.\n\nAt the supermarkets or pharmacies, there are quite a lot of stuffs for\ndry skins, but what to chose?\n\nThanks in advance for all advices and hints.\n\nReply by email preferred.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"You guys are correct.  The Bricklin was produced in Canada.\nThe National Museum of Science and Technology here in Ottawa\nhas one, and sometimes they put it on display.  Most of the time,\nit stays in storage because the museum doesn't have much room.\nIt's a big deal for a car to be Canadian and that's why they \nhave it.  If anybody's a fan, they also have a nice green '73\nRiviera that looks like it just came out of the showroom.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"in article  <735604750.28979.0@unix5.andrew.cmu.edu>,  Mark Yeck\n\n--------->\n\nHey, can someone clue me in on these and other weird types of amplifiers?  Just\na brief intro to the concepts behind these would be cool.  I have the clues \non type A, B, and AB already and stuff, but these other ones are mentioned \noccasionally and I dont know what they do.  I think type D is like a PWM scheme\nor something.  Thanx in advanced.\n\n---------->\nThe whole point to these weird amplifier types is improved efficiency.\n\nClass D amps *are* PWM (pulse width modulation) amps which work very much like\nswitching power supplies. I think I've seen these things called \"class S\"\nbefore as well. They're capable of very high efficiencies, and would be suitable\nfor very high power. I've yet to see anything like this used in an audiophile\namp, though.  I've been trying to design a three-kilowatter for the last year\n(to be used as an inverter for an UPS), but have been having serious problems\nwith layout parasitics (10 IRF 450's in parallel... any help  with a  do-able\nisolated drive ckt would be appreciated :) ) \n\nI'm not absolutely positive about this, but I beleive a 'class G' amp is one that\noperates off a variable- or switched power supply rail voltage. The Carver\namps do something like this. They use some sort of phase-control circuit \n(I do not fully understand its operation) to reduce the transformer size, and\nI beleive that is patented. I had an M400 apart (trying to fix) and found that\nit had three rail voltages that it switched between. I ran a simulation on\nPSPICE and found that the topology would greatly reduce power dissipation (heat)\nunder large-signal conditions, or when driving reactive loads (which draw high\ncurrent at the zero-voltage crossings). ","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"So, which one will officially be the end of the world? ;)\n\nI can see the end of the WS now:\n\"Well folks, here it is.  Bottom of the ninth; bases loaded; Full count on\nSandberg in this 1-1 game.  Clemens winds, heres the pitch.  Swung on and it is a \nline drive to center.  Zupcic moves to his left. He's there and.....\n*****ZOT******\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n...<waving policeman, happy policeman, nice policeman>...\n\n\n\nWell, not me. However, I wouldn't trade all the times I've^H^H^H^H a\nclose friend has been pulled over, cussed and shouted at, and finally\nlet off with a verbal warning in exchange for a few waves & smiles!\n\n:-) if you like but I'm serious.\n\nLater,","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nI believe that Apple, Sun and a number of other desktop machine\nmanufacturers have agreed with the government to incorporate\npower-saving techniques;  this is also something that governments in\nother countries are likely to require in the future, so expect to see\nit.  This may include the ability for the system to fully power down\nthe monitor, via a controllable power outlet, and power it back on\nautomatically.  (Is this a \"sell\" on screen saver software companies?)\n\nGoals for \"idle\" power consumption have been set at something like 30\nwatts for the system, not including the monitor (? don't quote me on\nthis).\n\nNote that in many businesses, the savings will be substantial,\nespecially if you factor in reduced load on air conditioning systems.\nSun did a study that indicated that simply powering off monitors for\nthe night would save the company (Sun itself) on the order of $1M per\nyear.  Putting other (and automatic) power-saving features in would\nprobably have greater than double that value.\n\nGiven that we are seeing more and more reason to leave our work and\nhome computers on (getting faxes, automatically getting email, ...),\nbuilding power consumption control into all machines has a potential to\ncut ~2% off the national power consumption, based on data I heard.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Pardonon, mi ofte konfuzigxas pri \"mola\" kaj \"malmola\".  Do: \"mol-vara\"?\n\n     (I was confused between \"soft\" and \"hard\", as in \"software\".)","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"We are having problems with our Laserwriter print drivers going bad on\nvarious people's machines on our Appletalk network.  On our network, people\nhave 7.0, 7.01, and 7.1 versions of the Laserwriter print driver.  We have\nbeen solving the problem by reinstalling the print driver, but it is\ntime-consuming and a real pain.\n\nThe Printmonitor software also seems to go bad frequently.  We have also\njust been replacing it (over and over, it seems) to keep things running.\n\nDoes anyone out there have any ideas about what may be causing the printing\nsoftware to go bad?  Are there known INIT conflicts or network conflicts? \nI would appreciate communication about any similar experiences you may have\nhad or ideas you have.\n\nYou could send me an email directly to: karens@edc.org....","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nWell, the \"jettison for youth fast\" strategy was his. Also in hindsight, it\ndidn't work all that well, but I think it was more because it left the\nSharks on a tightrope without a net, not that it was inherently flawed. It\nwas the injuries that caused us to fall.\n\n\nFrom all indications, it wasn't the \"major\" factor, but the \"last straw\".\nThere were personality conflicts among Shark management, and disagreements\nover how personnel were going to be handled (not just who was being traded\nvs. kept, but who was being sent to KC. What Ferriera did, if rumors are\nright, was not always what the folks behind the bench wanted or needed).\n\n\nI think if they'd kept Ferriera, they would have lost some of their other\nmanagement staff. Depending on which sources you trust, we might have lost\nGrillo AND Lombardi AND Murdoch over the summer. Frankly, I want to keep\nthose three. (we may well ahve also lost Kingston, which, of course, is now\na moot point). \n\nThe Sharks have been building an organizational staff that is highly\nconsensual and cooperative. Ferriera wanted to run things his way. There\nwere conflicts. Ferriera lost. That says nothing about his skills or\naccomplishments -- at that level, a lot is personality and politics. \n\nI think he did some good things for the Sharks, but that he never fit in as\na \"Shark person\". I hope he succeeds beyond his wildest dreams down in\nAnaheim, too, because it'll be good for hockey. (but I want the Ducks to be\ndoormats for a couple of years, so the Sharks succeeed first).\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Gulf has changed the third parts's perception of Arabs.\n1. Before, people tended to think Arabs have tough character. After seeing\nIraqis begging for surrender, people do not gave Arabs much weight.\n2. People tended to think Arabs are a united people in fighting Isrealis.\nAfter Gulf War, seeing some Arab nations beated up Iraqis in order to\nwaiver the debt to U.S. and Kuwaitis consistly trying to draw West nations\nto hit Iraq again, people started to see Arab World as a dog cage, echoing\nsound of barking.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"o any of you experts want to analyze Ron Gant?\nIs his early season slump because he is still swinging his bat the way\nhe was last year (trying to hit to all fields, etc.) or has he changed his\nswing back to the \"old\" Gant and is just in a small early season slump.\n\nIs his spot int he lineup even secure, especially the way he has\nbeen hitting?\n \n--\nmsilverm@nyx.cs.du.edu\t\t\t\tGO CUBS!!!","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\tPerforma 200 == Classic II\n\tPerforma 400 == LC II\n\tPerforma 4xx == LC III\n\tPerforma 600 == well, nothing :)\n\n\tThe Performas are made to be low-cost business solutions.  The 4xx have\nbundled software, modems, etc.\n\tBecause they have no \"retail price\" you might be able to get a steeper\ndiscount on them.  Shop around.\n\n\tAs far as the monitors go, buy 3rd party.  Much cheaper.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI have no problem with the idea that catechumens be dismissed before\nthe Eucharist.  They were not considered qualified to participate.\n\n\nDoes the dismissal in the early church mean that the eucharist was a\nsecret?  I mean, was it:\n\n\tyou don't have to stay; from now on, only the membership can\n\tparticipate; you really don't have to hang around; yes, I know\n\tyou're obliged to keep up attendance to qualify, but now is an\n\texception, okay?\n\nor was it:\n\n\tyou may not stay; what happens next is secret\n\nWhen we have had reason to conduct business meetings after church,\nwe've made it clear that only members can vote.  But we've always been\nhappy for non-members to stay and observe.\n\nDo you have evidence for intentional secrecy?  (Other than rumours,\nwhich will always happen when you have an underclass doing things not\napproved of by those in power?)","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"it hauls butt, handles nice, but is junk.  i drove a brand new one for a day\nas a loaner.  the key was already rusting...seems they stamp their keys out\nof pot-metal.  all the controls seemed really junk...clutch was heavy.\ndoor locks, power buttons, sunroof controls etc.  seemed really cheap.\nno way i would pay 24k for this baby.  no airbag either.  i also drove a svx\nfor a day...stickered at 30k, but going out the door for 21k...a much better\nbuy, imo.  although it is more of a sports touring coupe...roomy etc.\nthe corrado is more of a small sports car.  the ergonomics and leather in the\nsvx was twice as nice as the corrado's.  both had smooth strong engines.\n\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"As quoted from <1993May13.212321.2563@moepi.do.open.de> by bernward@moepi.do.open.de (Bernward Averwald):\n+---------------\n\nThe server overhead for this is mildly ridiculous, though (see also DESQview\/X,\nwhich does this in its DOS windows).  Do you really want xterm to wake up every\nhalf second and whack the server into doing a bitblt?","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nAt least locally, many shops carry a product called Goo Gone.  It works well\non scummy-gummy-sticky-goop-that-won't-go-away...  As always, color test in\nan inconspicuous corner before use.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\tHow 'bout \"Big Faus and Little Halsey\" with Robert\n\tRedford and that little guy that was in Bonnie & Clyde.\n\n\tGood flick, IMHO.\n\n\t\t\t\tMichael","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n: Bowman is the genius...Johnson isn't.  Bowman is a great coach...Johnson,\n: a very good one.  However, Bowman is really not a modern coach, and\n: Patrick's solution of having him only run the team on game days, and\n: delegate most of the day-to-day responsibity to the assistants is\n: a shrewd managerial decision on Patrick's part.  \n\nIMHO Bowman is the perfect coach for this group of players at \nthis time. Johnson was the perfect coach two years ago for his \ngroup of players. I would say we have been very lucky here in \nPittsburgh that the order these coaches came in was this one. \n(Excluding the unfortunate circumstances which brought about the \nchange.) With the immense talent on the Penguins roster this \nyear, a tougher Bowman keeps the egos in check. Johnson on the \nother hand, was able to inspire the younger, inexperienced players \nto new heights. Both coaches have \/ had different strengths. Both \nof which came at exactly the right time. \n\nAnother person also mentioned that Bowman is the perfect coach \nfor this time since nobody can argue with his decisions. How can \nyou argue with the coach with the best record in hockey anyway? \nPlaying for a great coach like that demands respect which also \nkeeps the egos in check. \n\nJust a couple of ideas.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"It just received FDA approval a few months ago. I have a\nprescription which I haven't had to use yet. I believe the\ncompany [Glaxol] is developing an oral form. At this stage, one\nmust inject the drug into one's muscle. The doctor said that\nwithin 30 minutes, the migraine is gone for good! \n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n   Any opinions on Burzynski's antineoplastons or information about the current \n   status of his research would be appreciated.\n\nBurzynski's work is not too promising. None of his A-1 through A-5\nantineoplastons have been shown to have antineoplastic effects against\nexperimental cancer. The NCI conducted tests of A-2 and A-5 against\nleukemia in mice, with the result that doses high enough to produce\ntoxic effects in the mice were not effective in inhibiting the growth\nof the tumor or killing it. (These were in 1983 and 1985)\n\nBurzynski claims that A-10 is the active factor common to all of A-1\nand A-5 (something which he has not shown, A-10 has only been\nextracted from A-2. He also hasn't shown that A-1 through A-5 are actually\ndistinct substances). The NCI conducted a series of tests using A-10\nagainst a standard panel of tumors that included different cell lines\nfrom tumors in the following classes: leukemia, non-small-cell and\nsmall-cell lung cancer, colon cancer, cancer of the central nervous\nsystem, melanoma, ovarian cancer and renal cancer. A-10 exhibited\nneither growth inhibition nor cytotoxicity at the dose levels tested.\n\nIt is necessary to process A-10 since it is not soluble (Burzynski's\ntheory requires soluble agents), but this basically hydrolizes it to\nPAG (which he calls AS 2.5). PAG is not an information carrying\npeptide, something which Byrzynski claims is necessary for\nantineoplastic activity. AS 2.1 (also derived from A-10) is a 4:1\nmixture of PA and PAG. PA (also not a peptide) can be purchased at a\nchemical supply houses for about $0.09 a gram. A-10 is chemically\nextremely similar to glutithamide and thalidomide, both of which are\nhabit forming and can cause peripheral neuropathy. The nasty effects\nof thalidomide are widely known. In spite of this similarity, A-10\ndoes not appear to have been tested for it's potential to induce\nteratogenicity or peripheral neuropathy.\n\nMany of Burzynski's statements about the origin of his theory, early\nresearch, past and present support by others for his work have been\nshown to be untrue.\n\n\nsdb","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Hi,  there were a couple of articles posted to this group the other\nday with the above subject heading.  Unfortunately, they expired \nbefore I could read them.  I could really use an xterm-like thing    \non my Amiga 4000; could somwone give me any information.\nThanks,\nLarry R. Nittler\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Hi Everyone,\n\n\tI am looking for papers\/articels\/books or any other\n\tsource of information about Parametric\/Variational\n\tDesign in CAD\/Solid Modeling.\n\n\tAny suggetions\/references would be greatly appreaciated.\n\n\tThanks in advance.\n\n\tJayesh","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nWell, this isn't the right group for this, but I have to say that I don't\nthink violence is any more socially acceptable now, by any means.  How\ncan you say that when we used to have of pistol-toting gunslingers as \nheros, or even gangland thugs being considered romantic.  Do you think\nour great grandparent got yelled at by their parents for playing cowboys\nand indians?  I don't think so.  That behavior was somewhat encouraged\nback then, in fact.\nI think the only difference between now and then is that nowadays, when\nsome teenager kills another one in a classroom in California, we here \nabout it in MA the same day.  Back in the old days, they'd never hear \nabout something like that, period. \n\nSorry about posting to rec.autos, but this is where it came up...\n\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n        ___          \n       \/ _ \\                 '85 Mustang GT                        Bob Pitas\n      \/    \/USH              14.13 @ 99.8                      bpita@ctp.com\n     \/ \/| \\                  Up at NED, Epping, NH           (Cambridge, MA)\n\n                           \"\" - Geddy Lee (in YYZ)\nDisclaimer: These opinions are mine, obviously, since they end with my .sig!","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"How can I draw an object of a specified color over objects of varying colors\n  and then erase it without having to redraw everything else?\n\n  What's happening is this,\n\n      If I draw it using GXcopy, it is drawn in the specified color.  If I erase\n      it using GXcopy with foreground and background reversed, it erases \n      whatever it overlayed.  I then need to redraw\n      all of the items it crossed.  Yuch.\n\n      If I draw it using GXinvert it is drawn in a random color - nothing \n      resembling what I requested.  It properly restores the color of \n      underlying objects in erase mode.\n\n  What's the solution?\n     \n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome\nall the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. \nLuke 10:19\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Can anyone tell me the procedure for hooking a Personal Laserwriter NTR\nserially to a mac?  The documentation says it can be done, but I'm not sure of\nthe correct switch setting to use out of the given non-appletalk switch\noptions.  Also, will I need to install a new driver so that the Chooser knows\nthe printer is hooked up directly (not networked)?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"------------------------- Original Article -------------------------\nNewsgroups: rec.sport.baseball\nPath: butch!netcomsv!netcom.com!csus.edu!wupost!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.ed\nFrom: scunning@louven.berkeley.edu (Sean Cunningham)\nSubject: Candlestick\nMessage-ID: <1993Apr21.041620.27894@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>\nSender: nntp@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU (NNTP Poster)\nNntp-Posting-Host: louven.berkeley.edu\nOrganization: University of California, Berkeley\nDate: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 04:16:20 GMT\nLines: 24\n\nHey folks,\n\nSaw the Giants play ball at the 'Stick Saturday, April 17.  It was the game\nwhere Pendelton broke up the scoreless tie in the ninth with a two-out,\ntwo-run homer to right to win it.  (It wasn't the game where the fans\nthrew the give-away \"fotoballs\" onto the field in response to the homer --\ntoo bad, huh?)\n\nWell, the 'Stick is still cold.  The Saturday game ended at 5:45pm, and it\nwas cold then.  I can't imagine night games in April at the 'Stick.  The\nwind kicked up a little, too, and I got this idea.\n\nAt most games, there's a pile of hot dog wrappers and cups and trash on\nthe field a lot of the time.  I propose a Kid's Clean-up Corps composed\nmainly of 10-12 year old kids who would love nothing better than to run\nout on the field in the fifth inning (when the guy in the Toro smooths\nthe infield) and grab the trash.\n\nIt might not be glamorous, but at that age I probably would have given\nanything to be on the field with the ballplayers.  Everybody wins here!\n\nWhaddaya think?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nNo we don't.  They might be zealous, and maybe the bureau shouldn't\nexist by some people, but they ARE NOT NAZIS.\n\nWhy do people toss around the Nazi label so easily?\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"         Anybody for carpeting in Bosnia\/Serbia?  I mean like, carpet bombing\n         of Serbian positions?\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I have already purchased 72-pin SIMMs for a Quadra 800 from\nMemory Direct (on March 9).  How can I tell whether or not they\nare composite SIMMs?  As a rule, does Memory Direct ship\ncomposite or \"regular\" SIMMs?\n\nThank you.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nThis is quite corect, but a bullet hitting a burned body with little energy\nwill show virtually no deformation, ie a hollow point probably would not\nexpand, an FMJ would be \"pristene\".  Also the bullets will not be marked\nwith the lands ang grooves of a barrel, because they didn't come out of\none.  A good pathologist should be able to notice this right away.\n\nLet us hope that the  ME's that handle these bodies are more competent\nthen the ones who did JFK's body.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"This discussion on viewing .ps files undex X11 seems rather interesting\nbut I fail to understand the reason it is not contained in 2 at most\nnewsgroups.\n\nI am subscribed to comp.text.interleaf and I could care less about\n.ps viewing under X11. I am sure that members of this group interested in\nthe topic can followup by looking at other newsgroups.\n\nCould you please remove the comp.text.interleaf from your distribution?\nJust as a nettish sort of courtesy.\n\nBest regards.\n\n-- \nLeo J Irakliotis               irakliot@longs.lance.colostate.edu","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nThat's not inner calm.  It's boredom, and it's being spoiled.  The Arena's\nbeen as quiet as a church on many nights this year; too many of us just\ntake winning for granted.  It's been seemingly forever since the team\nlost, and we've forgotten what it's like to feel real excitement and\nsurprise at victory.\n\nWhile I'm glad to have the Pens doing so well, in some ways it was a better\nhigh back when the Pens beat the Bruins two years ago, and the Rangers last\nyear. Too much of a good thing is not always good for you.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nThe 24 children were, of course, killed by a lone gunman in a second story\nwindow, who fired eight bullets in the space of two seconds...\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Hi.\n\nOur problem is the following:\n\nWe have to design an RF link for a distance of 250 m.  We're using\nstandard RS232 waves (square pulses) as the modulating waves and the \ncarrier wave is sinusoidal.  The link has to be bidirectional.\n \nWe would appreciate any advice on the type of modulating techniques\nor antennas that we should use.\n\nPlease internet email us at:  007gjf3@witsvma.wits.ac.za  (Nando)\n                         or   007bww3@witsvma.wits.ac.za  (Warren)\n                         or   blumenow@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za  (Warren)\n\nThank you very much in advance.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nis this the KX-P1124 you're talking about?  or is there a KX-1124, too?\nI'll assume you just forgot the P....\n\n\nthis light is also the power light.....  on (not blinking) just means that\nthe power is turned on.  if you look at the panel, it should read\n\n      POWER\n      ---------\n      PAPER OUT\n\nright?\n\n\ndon't know why it would do this, unless you're out of paper, that is.\n\n\nwhen you power up the printer, assuming it does have paper, the red power\nlight (which, when flashing, doubles as paper out) should light, and a few\nseconds later, the green ONLINE light should come on.\n\nhope this helps.....\n   --jim\n\n--\n#include <std_disclaimer.h>                                 73 DE N5IAL (\/4)\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nINTERNET: jim@n5ial.mythical.com  |  j.graham@ieee.org     ICBM: 30.23N 86.32W\nAMATEUR RADIO: n5ial@w4zbb (Ft. Walton Beach, FL)          AMTOR SELCAL: NIAL","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Article 31 of alt.graphics:\nNewsgroups: alt.graphics\nPath: news.nd.edu!moliere!rmalayte\nFrom: rmalayte@moliere.helios.nd.edu (ryan malayter)\nSubject: GeoSphere images via ftp?\nMessage-ID: <1993Apr26.213648.26856@news.nd.edu>\nSender: news@news.nd.edu (USENET News System)\nOrganization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame\nDate: Mon, 26 Apr 1993 21:36:48 GMT\n\nDoes anyone know if a digitized version of the GeoSphere image is\navailable via ftp?  For those of you who don't know, it is a composite\nphotograph of the entire earth, with cloudcover removed.  I just think\nit's really cool.  It was created with government funds and sattelites\nas a research project, so I would assume it's in the public domain.\n\nThanks for any info,\n\tRyan\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Fred Gilham asks (May 11) whether it is true that Kurt Goedel wrote\na version of the ontological argument for the existence of God.\n\nYes, he did. He did not publish it, but it will be published by the\nOxford University Press in German and with English translation in\nVolume 3, due to appear this fall, of his Collected Works.\n\nMeanwhile, you can find a summary, or perhaps the whole thing, in an\narticle by Jordan Howard Sobel called \"Goedel's ontological proof\"\nin the book ON BEING AND SAYING, edited by Judith Jarvis Thompson\n(sp?), published by the MIT Press in 1987.\n\nProfessor C Anthony Anderson of the Philosophy Department of the\nUniversity of Minnesota has written an article, \"Some Emendations of\nGoedel's Ontological Proof,\" which appeared in the magazine FAITH\nAND PHILOSOPHY, v. 7 (1990): 291-303. It discusses some objections\nthat various critics have raised against Goedel's proof, and offers\na revised version of the proof that is not vulnerable to these\nobjections.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nOr, did anyone notice that when Clinton referred to the Davidians as\n'religious fanatics' that a round of spontaneous applause burst forth from\nthe reporters ? \n\nTo me this was not only in poor taste, but it showed the media's bias and\nhostility to anyone not of the politically correct stripe.  No wonder they\nhave been cheerleading for the kgBATF and the FBI during this whole affair.\n\n\t\t\tRod\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\"It [collectivism vs individualism] is an ancient conflict. Men have come\nclose to the truth, but it was destroyed each time and one civilization fell\nafter another. Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The\nsavage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe.\nCivilization is the process of setting man free from men.\"\n    -- Ayn Rand : 'Roark's speech from the _Fountainhead_'\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nI don't speak for my company. We hire the 'Politically Correct' to do that.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"   After hearing endless debate (READ: name-calling) over which os is better, dos\n   and windows or OS\/2 and finally having enought resourses to play with a couple\n   of different operating systems, I have decided to put the two products to a\n   head to head test, as so many fellow newsposters have suggested.  I have, \n   however, no desire whatsoever to use a version of os\/2 which wont REALLY\n   do what it says (i.e. run windows apps)  OS\/2 2.0-2.1 will not run windows\n   apps in 386 enhansed mode, something that most larger windows apps require, but\n   OS\/2 2.2, which is supposed to be in beta test, is supposed to.  I have heard\n   that os\/2 2.2 beta is available via ftp, and I was wondering if anyone knew\n   where to obtain a copy.  I would appreciate any information, as I would like, \n   once and for all, to establish for myself which is the best os for my needs.\n\n   ->Robbie<-\n   z_shererrg.sfasu.edu\n\nIf you wait until May the 18th you will be able to buy the new OS\/2\n2.1 since it will be released at Comdex that day. It will run Windows\n3.1 apps and Windows enh. mode. If you can't wait, then you can ftp a\n6 months old beta version from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu, but this version is\nprobably a lot slower than the final product.\n\nWhen you do your test, please have in mind that a single tasking\nsystem will always be faster at doing one task. The real power of OS2\nlies in the multitasking and can't really be measured by a stopwatch.\n\nHappy benchmarking.\nHans\n--\n------------------------------------------------------------- \nThe whales of the Atlantic and the people of the Faroe Islands \nhave coexisted in perfect harmony for the last 1000 years -\nno matter what any urban navel contamplator without any real\nrelation to the coherence of the nature says.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nNope, here I am:\tdavid@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------\nDavid Smyth\t\t\t\tdavid@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov\nSenior Software Engineer,\t\t(818)306-6193 (do NOT use v-mail yet!)\nCCCP, X and Object Guru.\t\toffice: 525\/C165\nJet Propulsion Lab, M\/S 525-3660 4800 Oak Grove Drive, Pasadena, CA 91109\n------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n\t\"That Sun Windows thingy, what's it called?  You know, its\n\treally awful.  X?  Motif?  That's it - Motif! Yuck!\"","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Why do you let such brain dead idiots drive in the US?\n\n\nTony","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\tI am unable to run Quicktime 1.5 on my IIvx running System 7.1, and\n\tI don't know why. (If there is a better group to post this to, please\n\tlet me know.) Quicktime 1.0 works fine, but when I try to run a movie\n\tin any application that supports it, Like Simple Player, Canvas or\n\tWord, I get the message \"sorry a system error occurred '<Application>'\n\tunimplemented trap <continue> <restart>\", I press <continue> and get\n\t\"The application 'unknown' has unexpectedly quit, because an error of\n\ttype 12 occurred.\" Substitute Simple Player or Canvas or Word for\n\t'<Application>, and the messages are always the same. If I restart with\n\tQuicktime 1.0, I have no problems. Any suggestions? I am at a loss.\n\t\tThanks in advance. Oh yah, please email me as I don't check\n\t\tthe newsgroups very often.\n\t\t\tDan Bradley deb47099@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nMuch of the Haight-Ashbury crowd probably had pre-existing \ndissatisfactions with their lives -- dissatisfactions ameliorated by\nmumbo-jumbo about 'new realities'. The only change I experienced after \nLSD was to gain the knowledge that I didn't enjoy how LSD twisted my\nperception.\n--\nMark Pundurs","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"SCO ODT allows to adapt the X-Server to any non-standard (AT) keyboard \nusing the Xkeyboard configuration compiler xsconfig. SCO provides some\nconfiguration files in \/usr\/lib\/X11\/xsconfig\/*.kbd, e.g. for \nSiemens WX200.\n\nQuestion:\nIs there anywhere a configuration file for the HP46021A keyboard\navailable ? \nI am especially interested in using the HP specific keys such as \n\"InsertLine\", \"Menu\".","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n As far as I can see if your obstetrition has an ultrasound in his rooms\nand is expirienced its use and interpretation, he should be just as\ncapable of reading it as any radiologist. All doctors are \"qualified\" to\nread x-rays, u\/s, ct scans etc. it is just that a radiologist does nothing\nelse, and thus, is only better at reading them because of all this time\nspent doing this (skill in reading x-rays etc. just comes from plenty of\npractice). If your obstetrition reads heaps of obstetric ultrasounds he\nshould be able to pick up any abnormalities that can be demonstrated by\nthis technique.\n\n- Paul.\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I'm going to be purchasing one of these soom for my SS2.\n\nDoes anyone have any experience with this card?\n\nPositive or negative comments welcome!\n\nPlease respond immediately.\n\nThanks,\n\n  Joe\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"while I \n\nSeeing a dermatologist sounds like a very good idea if you are\nworried about your dry skin.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"When I use File Manager's disk copy, I find that\nWindows (3.1) can read the whole 1.2MB disk at one time, \nbut only 98% of a 1.44 disk. It looks like a problem\nof memory. However, The PC has 4MB RAM. There should be some \nway to allocat more extended memory for disk copy. \nPlease advise me on this matter. Thanks in advance.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Anyone catch the TV show Law & Order last night (at least here in\nNYC)?  They \"the law enforcement people\", needed to catch a member of\nDoD (Department of Doom) for inflicting a computer virus in a\nhospital's mainframe which ended up killing two people because wrong\namounts of medication were given to them.\n\nAnyhow, is \"Department of Doom\" on the list?","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\nApparently you *didn't* read the whole thing.  You continue to miss the point.\n\n\n\n[deletions]\n\n\n\nCounselling that only provides alternatives to abortion would be just as\nbiased as counselling that only provides *abortion* information.  How about\nproviding counselling that will give a woman help in finding what *she* is\ncomfortable with.\n\nYour adoption-funding idea may be a good one.  Any idea if it is feasable?\n\n\n\n\nMaking adoption easier on the birth-mother may help reduce abortion, but\nit will *not* eliminate the need for it.  Abortion is not done just because\nthe mother can't care for the child and doesn't feel good about giving it\nto strangers.  Abortion is done because the mother can not afford the\n*pregnancy*.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThen please justify why being \"human\" automatically makes something valuable.\nAnd why that includes the unborn.\n\n\n\n\nNo, they are not guaranteed to become productive members of society.  Even\nif they do that is *MANY YEARS* in the future--until which they are a burden\non someone, or society.  There is also the matter of the mother.  Forcing\nher to carry a pregnancy to term at a critical time in her life could prevent\nher from being a productive member of society.\n\n\n\n\n\n\nOk, look.  It's like this.  We *are* footing the bill.  Maybe they will\ntake choice A.  Maybe they will take choice B.  Maybe they will take choice\nC.  They can't afford any *one* of them.  If they take choice A we'd have\nto pay them, say $5.  If they take choice B it would cost us $20.  If they\ntake choice C it will cost us $20 now and a hell of a lot more for the next\n18 years.  Which one sounds the most realistic for us to be willing to pay\nfor?  Now some people happen not to like choice A.  Other people happen\nnot to like choice C (paying for it, that is).  C has been around and paid\nfor for years.  Even though it means we spend a lot of money, we can't in\nconscience refuse to pay for it.  Now A has been around and is perfectly\nlegal, but it hasn't been funded in the past.  Now A is going to be funded\nbut some people object.  They don't like the idea of their tax money going\nto pay for choice A.  So we could refuse to fund A at all.  Then those\nwomen who can't afford any of those choices will be forced to take choice\nB or C, which will cost *all of us* more money.  Most of us don't see any\nreason at all why *more money* should be spent to the effect of *removing\npersonal choice* from some women.  The alternative is to fund A if that is\nwhat the mother chooses.  We will also still fund B and even C if *that*\nis what the mother chooses.  However, some women will certainly choose A,\nand that will then save us $15 we otherwise would have had to spend.  Your\n\"taxes\" are not being raised to fund a choice you object, they are being\n*lowered* because we will fund a choice that is *legal*, despite your\nobjections to it.  (Actually, your taxes are not really going to go down,\nas I'm sure you would point out.  But the amount that is saved in that\narea can help out in another--like our massive debt.)\n\n\n\n\n\nThose other procedures you mention only cost money.  There is no savings\nin other procedures that would be required down the road without them.\n(In fact, there could be additional costs down the road *because* of them.)\nThis is quite different from the case of abortion.\n\n\nThis is bullshit.  We are *not* refusing \"to make the alternative affordable\ntoo\".  If we refused to pay for the more expensive choice of birth, *then*\nyour statement would make sense.  But that is not the case, so it doesn't.\nIf Clinton tried to block funding for pre-natal care and delivery (or left\nit out of his health-care plan), I would certainly object.  I would also be\nquite surprised.\n\n\n\nYes, but probably not your definition of it, or for the reasons you think.\n\n\nYOU STUPID FUCK!  *WE DO* want to fund *all* the choices.  *YOU* are the\none who wants to *NOT* fund all the choices.\n\n\nYour humble opinion is still wrong.  Even with easy adoption, there is still\nthe fact that pregnancy takes several months.  Months in which a young woman\ncould need to be getting an education.  (like finishing High School, entering\ncollege, finishing college, getting a job...things that are much harder to\ndo if you have to \"take a break\" for a few months...things that have a massive\nimpact on her future productivity.)\n\n\n\n\nYou *can* have a conversation with the \"mentally incompetant\".  And even\nthough *you* personally may refuse to have a conversation with \"people\nyou just don't like\", it is still *possible* for others to have a conversation\nwith them.  It is *not* possible for *anyone* to have a conversation with\na fetus.\n\n\n\nHe was still biologically independent.  At least to the same extent you are\nnow.  He consumed nutrients and digested them in the normal manner.  He\nbreathed his own air.  A fetus on the other hand, gets it's nutrients already\ndigested by the mother.  It gets its oxygen from the mother as well.  That\nis not biologically independent.\n\n\n\nAwareness is only *part* of what makes a \"member of society\".  It is the\nminimal conceivable requirement, yet many people seem to think that something\nwithout awareness could still be important enough to justify the suffereing\nof a true member of society.  I keep asking, but I still haven't seen a real\njustification for why the life of a non-sentient creature should be worth the\nsuffering of a sentient being.  (I haven't read every response on the threads\nI've been asking on, yet, so we'll see if I see one later.)\n\n\n\nAnyone who can program in UNIX has a lot of experiences in the real world.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n: > > However, legalizing it and just sticking some drugs in gas stations to\n: > > be bought like cigarettes is just plain silly.  Plus, I have never\n: > > heard of a recommended dosage for drugs like crack, ecstasy, chrystal\n: > > meth and LSD.  The 60 Minute Report said it worked with \"cocaine\"\n: > > cigarettes, pot and heroin.\n: > \n: > Or, the government could adopt the radical and probably unAmerican idea\n: > that citizens are free to live their lives as they wish, and simply\n: > decriminalize cocaine, marijuana, heroin, LSD, etc.  Please explain why\n: > the idea of allowing recreational drugs to be \"bought like cigarettes\"\n: > is \"just plain silly.\"  After all, it works just fine for nicotine...\n\n: I'm all in favor of drug legalization, but I do see some problems with\n: it. My hope is that people disposed to doing so would simply overdose\n: quickly, and be done with it, before making a mess of thisgs.\n\nIt's actually quite simple. We sell Drug Use Licenses to anybody over age\n18 who wants one.  Costs $100 and you're required to attend a week of\nnight classes on the effects of drugs on the human body. At the end of the\nclass, you sign an informed consent waiver acknowledging that you've been\ntold that drugs are bad for you, but you want them anyway. In doing so,\nyou giver up ANY right to state-paid medical care for whatever might\nhappen to you as a result of doing drugs, or any right to collect welfare\nor unemployment should you lose your job as a result of using drugs. You'd\nalso give up your right to drive a car.  \n\nAnybody caught using drugs without a license has a choice; pay a $1000\nfine and accept a backdated drug user's license, or go to prison. \n-- \n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\nKen Mitchell       | The powers not delegated to the United States by the\nkmitchel@netcom.com| Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are\nCitrus Heights, CA | reserved to the States respectively, or to the People.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Oh really?  I seem to remember this year's woofers consisting mainly of\nyourself and Roger.  Boston fans were relatively quiet.\n\n\nI guess the concept of a fan who is not cocky is something you couldn't\npossible understand, eh?\n\n\nNah.  I doubt you really would.  You're just being a PROVOCATIVE SOB\nas usual with a large stick up your but.  Of course, I mean that in the\nnicest way.  :-)  \n\nAnd just how much bragging did YOU do, \"wobbie,\" on r.s.b.c after \nUMASS!!! beat your Quakers?\n\nBTW.  Congratulations should go to the Sabres.  They are playing more\ndiciplined, and with more will to win.  They deserve it.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nExcept the drivers.\n\n                  tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\n\nLook up the facts first, post second.  Bernadotte was assassinated\nin September 1948 by Lehi under the orders of its three commanders\n(one of whom was Yitzhak Shamir).  There is no hard evidence of\ncomplicity of the Israeli government despite some effort by the UN\nand other organizations (US intelligence, Swedish government) to\nfind it.  However a great fuss was made over the apparent lack of\nzeal of the Israeli government to track down the killers.  The Lehi\nman who actually pulled the trigger later became a personal friend\nof David Ben-Gurion.  The best published account in English is A. Ilan, \nBernadotte in Palestine, 1948 (Macmillan, 1989).\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n > Public revelation, which is the basis of Catholic doctrine, ended\n > with the death of St John, the last Apostle. Nothing new can be\n > added.\n\nEvery so often, the Pope declares that some departed Christian is\nnow in Heaven, and may be invoked in the public rites of the Church.\nIt is my understanding that Roman Catholics believe that such\ndeclarations by the Pope are infallible. I see three possibilities:\n     1) The Church has received a Public Revelation since the death\nof (for example) Joan of Arc.\n     2) The Church was given a list before the death of St John\nwhich had Joan's name on it.\n     3) There is no public revelation about Joan, and Roman\nCatholics are free to doubt that she died in a state of grace, or\neven that she is a historical character.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"An application we *must* use requires upper-case input.  I'd like to be\nable to simply move my cursor into the window where that application is running\n(just a text window, xterm or some such) and have everything I type be entered\nas ALL CAPS.  When the cursor is in any of my many other windows, I want to\nautomatically return to normal functionality.  I have point-to-type set.\n\nIs there a way to do this in X (specifically OW 3.0 on SPARCs)?  Is there a\nway to mess with .Xdefaults to make a category of window do this?  Any\nhints would be most appreciated.  I program in C but not X, although I can\npick up somthing that's not too involved.\n\nThanks kindly.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n..\n\nfunny, if Koresh did say that, he was quoting St. Paul. of course, \nthe early Christians were persecuted too. if Koresh is a loony \nbecause he quotes the Bible, how long is it before mainstream \nChristians become the target of the FBI's loving care and attention?\n\njason\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"There is a description of something called a \"fair crypto system\" in the\nMay 1993 issue of BYTE, p. 134, attributed to MIT professor Silvio Micali.\n\n  The way it works is as follows:\n\n  You generate your private key S, and break it up into pieces s1, s2, s3,\ns4, and s5, such that (s1 + s2 + ... + s5) mod p = S.\n  You give each piece s1, s2, etc. to a different escrow agency.\n  The agencies each compute g^sn mod p, and forward the result to the public\nkey telephone book keeper.\n  The public key telephone book keeper multiplies all the g^sn mod p, reduces\nthe result to mod p, and this will be the user's public key.\n\n  Now, if there were several hundered recognized escrow agencies, and the user\ncould give a piece of the key to each of the ones he trusted, the result would\nbe something of an improvement over the proposed Clipper system.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nI have tried others, but I think that the Adaptec is best value for money.\n\n\n\n\nI dont think you can mix the two types of drive, unless you have one of the\nSCSI\/IDE cards that is available.  You will have to turn your IDE off.\n\n\n\n\nInstructions for drive type are included with the controller.  With some it may be\na type 1. no matter what the disk is.  With others it may be a type 47.  I had one\ncontroller that I had to tell the BIOS that no hard disk was installed.\n\n \n\n\nDo not low level format a SCSI unless you have the SCSI low level format program. \nFirst use fdisk to set the partitions, then use format.\n\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI do not know of any \"VGA\" type cards that have BNC outputs but, EXTRON\nsells a VGA to BNC cable set that works good with my 5FG.  If you are\ntrying to optimize the display with a good video card try contacting #9,\n@ 1-800-get-nine.  I use and like the level 9 card.\n\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Anyone have any experiences to report using PhoneNet PC?\nWe're thinking about investing in one of these cards for\nour lone PC at work.\n+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++\nKen Gantz           kgantz@cup.portal.com\n+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"A few questions for Janet Reno:\n\n\tWhy don't you think generals have any place in law enforcement?\n\n\tIf the ATF\/FBI had proof that Koresh was:\n\n\t\tA child molester\n\t\tA child abuser\n\t\tA wife abuser\n\t\tBigamist\n\t\tSexual Deviant (not a crime in all 50 states, yet)\n\tAs well as\n\t\tIllegally modify weapons\n\n\tWhy wasn't he simply arrested during one of his morning jogs?  Why did\nthe allegations of child\/wife\/sex crimes only come out after the Branch\nDavidians repelled the initial assualt?\n\n\tWas it because it became necessary to demonize David Koresh?  Do you\nfeel responsible for the deaths of over 80 people?  How many would be alive to\nday if Koresh had been arrested outside the compound?\n\n\n\tInquiring minds want to know.\n\n\t[Although Janet was installed after the siege began, her purge of the\njustice dept. leaves only her people in charge.]","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nUsers can't find the cursor?  Run \"xneko\" - it'll turn the cursor into a\nmouse (rodent variety (-: ).  If your users still can't find it, the cat will!\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nActually, just after the FIRST world war, many Muslims were killed by Serbs.\nUnder Serbian-led regime between the two world wars, many Croats were\nalso killed (especially during the dictatorship introduced on Jan. 6, 1929).\nSome Croats formed a resistance movement \"Ustashas\" (Insurgents) and\nwere forced into exile, to fascist Italy, which sheltered them.  In exile,\nthey practiced a terrorist approach to liberating Croatia; while Croats in\nCroatia followed the approach of peaceful negotiations under the leadership\nof Vladko Macek.  After the Axis powers took control in the SECOND world\nwar, Vladko Macek refused to collaborate, so Ustashas were brought in \nto run the newly formed puppet state.  This state included both Croatia and\nBosnia-Herzegovina, and its ideology saw Muslims as the best Croats\n(\"flowers of Croatian people\").  Some Muslims in Bosnia-Herzegovina\ntherefore joined Ustashas.  However, even more others did not; they\njoined Tito's Partisans.    The Ustashas membership peaked at \nless than 1% of Croat and Muslim population of that area at that time.\n\nAfter WWII, Muslims were still considered a religious minority descended\nfrom Croats or Serbs who converted to Islam centuries ago.  But, in 1968,\nit was decided that forcing Muslims to declare their nationality as\neither Serbs or Croats is not a good policy.  Dobrica Cosic, the current\npresident of the rump Yugoslavia, was strongly opposed, and sought to\nprevent the category \"Muslim\" (in an ethnic sense) from appearing on the\nnext census.  He was criticized and expelled from the party.  So, since\nthat time, Bosnian Muslims are considered a separate nationality, although\nsome still deny this and insist that they choose either Serb or Croat\nnationality.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nCould you be more specific?  I need that file too but couldn't find it \namongst ALL the directories at wuarchive.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":" \n\nWell that's really great Pat.  I guess since you've played a little you thereby \nqualify as an expert.  Especially since you watch all the games on t.v.  All \nthat qualifies you as is a armchair quarterback or a coach potato\n\nPat Walker","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nIndeed Yaqouv, just like the ugly hatred spread by Kahane and\nKahanists, right?   Or they are exempt from condemnation, and allowed\nto hate?\n\nI know you'll answer me indirectly, it doesn't bother me a bit.\nKeep it up.\n\nSteel (who's never pissed off).\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Hello, \n \nI am new to this news group, but I need some info.  I am \ncurrently doing a project for a class on the Internet.  I am\nlooking for good sources of information on space and astronomy,\nmore notably, our own solar system.  If anyone knows any good\nsites where I can get information about this kinda stuff, please \ne-mail me at STK1663@VAX003.STOCKTON.EDU.  Thanx.\n \n                                ----Steve\n \n(my newsreader doesn't have a .sig yet, sorry.)","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nMost commercial switchers do NOT use magnetics for their energy storage;\nthat's handled by the big caps on the primary side, those which in a \nlinearly-regulated power supply would be considered the \"filter\" caps,\ncoming right after the bridge.  The transformer is just that - a \ntransformer.  It's there primarily to step the voltage up or down.  (Although\nthe inductance seen by the switch transistor on the primary side is NOT\nnegligible, as anyone who's zapped said transistor from either failing to\nget one with a high enough breakdown voltage or neglecting to include a\n\"snubber\" diode across it would tell you.  Actually, many transistors intended\nfor switcher use today have the diode built in.)\n\nThe basic switched-mode power supply operates something like this (in\na somewhat simplified manner):  The AC line is rectified to produce a\nhigh voltage, more-or-less unregulated DC rail.  The energy storage (or\n\"filter\") caps appear across this rail, as does the switching transistor.\nThe transistor chops the current into the primary side of the transformer,\nresulting in stepped-up or stepped-down pulses out the secondary, which \nare then rectified and filtered.  At least one of the transformer's outputs\nis sampled and fed back to the control circuit for the switching transistor,\nwhich acts in a \"pulse-width modulation\" (PWM) fashion to control (by varying\nthe pulse width) the amount of energy being dumped into the primary, and\ntherefore the voltage coming out at the secondary.  The remaining outputs\nmay be allowed to simply run at whatever value they will, more-or-less\ntracking the regulated output, or they may have some additional linear\nregulation added.  You may also note that the feedback between the \nregulated output and the PWM control (which is most typically an IC)\nis not done via a direct electrical connection; this is due to various\nsafety standards which require primary and secondary circuits to be\nelectrically isolated.  Often, the feedback path involves an optoisolator\nto meet this requirement.\n\nWhile the transformer isn't the primary energy-storage device in these\ndesigns, this does not mean that the energy stored in the transformer can\nbe ignored; besides the inductive \"kick\" giving the switch transistor a\nbad time (as noted above), you also need to worry about getting all the\nenergy that went *in* to the transformer back *out* again, one way or another.\nIn some designs, this happens more or less automatically - but in others,\nyou need to take special care to ensure that the transformer core doesn't\nsaturate, which again would have disastrous results (best left to the \nimagination! :-)).\n\nI'm NOT by any stretch of the imagination a power-supply designer; \nhopefully, a real one will come along soon and clean up any gross errors\nin the above.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"[...]\n[...]\n\nAgain -- I'm extremely sorry about this..  I got this message several \nmonths ago (quite a bit before the clipper chip proposal) when it was posted\nto a different newsgroup.  It was very startling to me as well, and I guess\nI should of verified the source at least to some extent before reposting..\n\nAaack..  ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":": \n: Then again, maybe $2445 for the gateway system isn't too cheap.\n: \n: I have a system from Micron computers:\n: \n: 486-2-50, 16 meg ram, 245 Maxtor HD, Local bus IDE \/ 2 meg video card, and\n: the same 15\" monitor.  The system with shipping came to $2200.  I sold the\n: sx-33 chip that came with it and bought a dx2-50.  Total price $2300-2400.\n\nI think you got something wrong here.  You state that the system was a\n486dx250, then say that you sold the sx-33 chip that came with it.  This\ndoes not make sense.\n\n--","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I am aware of the restrictions imposed by the munitions act\non the export of cryptographic technology, however, is it illegal to\ntransmit encrypted data from the U.S. to another country?  If so,\nthen which laws apply to this situation?\n ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"------------- cut here -----------------\n \n        ONCE A YEAR...FOR A LIFETIME VIDEO KIT.  This kit\n        includes a 25-minute VHS videotape that presents common\n        misconceptions about mammography.  It tells of the\n        benefits gains by the early detection of breast cancer.\n        Jane Pauley and Phylicia Rashad are the narrators.  Kit\n        includes a guide, poster, flyer, and pamphlets on\n        mammography.  This kit is available directly by writing\n        to:  Modern, 5000 Park Street North, St. Petersburg, FL\n        33709-9989.\n \n \n \nADDITIONAL RESOURCES\n \n \n     COMBINED HEALTH INFORMATION DATABASE (CHID).  A computerized\n     bibliographic database developed and managed by agencies of\n     the U.S. Public Health Service.  It contains references to\n     health information and health education resources.  The\n     database provides bibliographic citations and abstracts for\n     journal articles, books, reports, pamphlets, audiovisuals,\n     product descriptions, hard-to-find information sources, and\n     health promotion and education programs under way in state\n     and local health departments and other locations.  In\n     addition, CHID provides source and availability information\n     for these materials, so that users may obtain them directly.\n \n     At present, there are twenty-one subfiles on CHID. The\n     National Cancer Institute created the Cancer Patient\n     Education subfile in 1990. It serves as a resource for the\n     CHID user who is interested in identifying patient education\n     programs for specific cancer patient populations, as well as\n     for the user who is trying to locate educational resources\n     available for patient or family cancer education.  Citations\n     include the contact person at cancer centers, so the user\n     can follow up directly with the appropriate person.\n \n     To access CHID, check with your local library.  Most medical\n     school, university, hospital, and public libraries subscribe\n     to commercial database vendors.\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 28\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n \n     FINAL REPORT:  AN INTEGRATED ONCOLOGY WORKSTATION (revised\n     5\/92).  This book provides a conceptual overview of what a\n     clinical information system for practicing oncologists might\n     include:  a database of electronic patient chart records\n     combined with access to a knowledge base of information\n     resources such as PDQ, CANCERLIT, and MEDLINE--an\n     integration of data and knowledge combined to create a\n     clinical \"oncology workstation.\"  The concept was developed\n     as a means to assist the oncologist and his or her office\n     staff in the daily management of patient care and clinical\n     trials.  This book can be obtained by contacting:  Dr.\n     Robert Esterhay, Project Officer, Computer Communications\n     Branch, Building 82, Room 201, Bethesda, MD 20892.\n \n     SCIENTIFIC INFORMATION SERVICES OF THE NATIONAL CANCER\n     INSTITUTE. (91-2683). This booklet from the International\n     Cancer Information Center (ICIC) describes each ICIC product\n     or service, including scientific journals (Journal of the\n     National Cancer Institute and NCI Monographs), specialized\n     current awareness publications (CANCERGRAMS, and ONCOLOGY\n     OVERVIEWS), and online databases (PDQ and CANCERLIT). To\n     obtain copies of the booklet, write to: International Cancer\n     Information Center, Dept. JJJ, National Cancer Institute,\n     Bldg. 82, Rm. 123, Bethesda, Maryland 20892 or fax your\n     request to 301-480-8105.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 29\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n            Publications for Patients Available from the NCI (1\/93)\n \nFree copies of the following patient education materials are available (in \nsingle copy or bulk) by calling the NCI's Publication Ordering Service, 1-800-\n4-CANCER. \n \n \nCANCER PREVENTION\n \n     CHEW OR SNUFF IS REAL BAD STUFF.  This brochure, designed\nfor seventh and eighth graders, describes the health and social\neffects of using smokeless tobacco products.  When fully opened,\nthe brochure can be used as a poster.\n \n     CLEARING THE AIR:  A GUIDE TO QUITTING SMOKING.  This\npamphlet, designed to help the smoker who wants to quit, offers a\nvariety of approaches to cessation. [24 pages]\n \n     DIET, NUTRITION & CANCER PREVENTION:  THE GOOD NEWS.  This\nbooklet provides an overview of dietary guidelines that may\nassist individuals in reducing their risks for some cancers.  It\nidentifies certain foods to choose more often and others to\nchoose less often in the context of a total health-promoting\ndiet. [16 pages]\n \n     WHY DO YOU SMOKE?  This pamphlet contains a self-test to\ndetermine why people smoke and suggests alternatives and\nsubstitutes that can help them stop.\n \n \nEARLY DETECTION\n \n \n     BREAST EXAMS:  WHAT YOU SHOULD KNOW.  This pamphlet provides\nanswers to questions about breast cancer screening methods,\nincluding mammography, the medical checkup, breast self-\nexamination, and future technologies.  Includes instructions for\nbreast self-examination. [10 pages]\n \n     CANCER TESTS YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT:  A GUIDE FOR PEOPLE 65\nAND OVER.  This pamphlet describes the cancer tests important for\npeople age 65 and older.  It informs men and women of the exams\nthey should be requesting when they schedule checkups with their\ndoctors.  It provides a checklist for men and women to record\nwhen the cancer tests occur, and it describes the steps to follow\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 30\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\nshould cancer be found. [14 pages]\n \n     DO THE RIGHT THING:  GET A MAMMOGRAM.  This brochure targets\nblack women age 40 or older.  It describes the importance of\nregular mammograms in the early detection of breast cancer.  It\nstates the NCI guidelines for mammography.\n \n     ONCE A YEAR FOR A LIFETIME.  This brochure targets all women\nage 40 or older.  It describes the importance of regular\nmammograms in the early detection of breast cancer.  It states\nthe NCI guidelines for mammography.\n \n     QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT BREAST LUMPS.  This pamphlet\ndescribes some of the most common noncancerous breast lumps and\nwhat can be done about them.  Includes instructions for breast\nself-examination. [22 pages]\n \n     QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT CHOOSING A MAMMOGRAPHY FACILITY.\nThis brochure lists questions to ask in selecting a quality\nmammography facility.  Also discusses typical costs and coverage.\n \n     TESTICULAR SELF-EXAMINATION.  This pamphlet contains\ninformation about risks and symptoms of testicular cancer and\nprovides instructions on how to perform testicular self-\nexamination.\n \n     THE PAP TEST:  IT CAN SAVE YOUR LIFE!  This easy-to-read\npamphlet tells women the importance of getting a Pap test.  It\nexplains who should request one, how often it should be done, and\nwhere to go to get a Pap test.\n \n \nGENERAL\n \n \n     RESEARCH REPORTS.  In-depth reports covering current\nknowledge of the causes and prevention, symptoms, detection and\ndiagnosis, and treatment of various types of cancer.  Individual\nreports are available on the following topics:\n \n     Bone Marrow Transplantation\n     Cancer of the Colon and Rectum\n     Cancer of the Lung\n     Cancer of the Pancreas\n     Melanoma\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 31\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n     Oral Cancers\n \n     THE IMMUNE SYSTEM - HOW IT WORKS.  This booklet, written at\na high school level, explains the human immune system for the\ngeneral public.  It describes the sophistication of the body's\nimmune responses, the impact of immune disorders, and the\nrelation of the immune system to cancer therapies present and\nfuture. [28 pages]\n \n \n     WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT CANCER.  This series of\npamphlets discusses symptoms, diagnosis, treatment, emotional\nissues, and questions to ask the doctor.  Includes glossary of\nterms and other resources.  Individual pamphlets are available on\nthe following topics:\n \n     Bladder\n     Bone\n     Brain\n     Breast\n     Cervix\n     Colon and Rectum\n     Dysplastic Nevi\n     Esophagus\n     Hodgkin's Disease\n     Kidney\n     Larynx\n     Lung\n     Melanoma\n     Multiple Myeloma\n     Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma\n     Oral Cancers\n     Ovary\n     Pancreas\n     Prostate\n     Skin\n     Testis\n     Uterus\n \n \nPATIENT EDUCATION\n \n     ANTICANCER DRUG INFORMATION SHEETS IN SPANISH\/ENGLISH.  Two-\nsided fact sheets (in English and Spanish) provide information\nabout side effects of common drugs used to treat cancer, their\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 32\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\nproper usage, and precautions for patients.  The fact sheets were\nprepared by the United States Pharmacopeial Convention, Inc., for\ndistribution by the National Cancer Institute.  Single sets only\nmay be ordered.\n \n     ADVANCED CANCER:  LIVING EACH DAY.  This booklet addresses\ncoping with a terminal illness by discussing practical\nconsiderations for the patient, the family, and friends. [30\npages]\n \n     CHEMOTHERAPY AND YOU:  A GUIDE TO SELF-HELP DURING\nTREATMENT. This booklet, in question-and-answer format, addresses\nproblems and concerns of patients receiving chemotherapy.\nEmphasis is on explanation and self-help. [64 pages]\n \n     EATING HINTS:  RECIPES AND TIPS FOR BETTER NUTRITION DURING\nCANCER TREATMENT.  This cookbook-style booklet includes recipes\nand suggestions for maintaining optimum nutrition during\ntreatment.  All recipes have been tested. [92 pages]\n \n     FACING FORWARD: A GUIDE FOR CANCER SURVIVORS.  This booklet\npresents a concise overview of important survivor issues,\nincluding ongoing health needs, psychosocial concerns, insurance,\nand employment.  Easy-to-use format includes cancer survivors'\nexperiences, practical tips, recordkeeping forms, and resources.\nIt is recommended for cancer survivors, their family, and\nfriends. [43 pages]\n \n     PATIENT TO PATIENT:  CANCER CLINICAL TRIALS AND YOU.  This\n15-minute videocassette provides simple information for patients\nand families about the clinical trials process (produced in\ncollaboration with the American College of Surgeons Commission on\nCancer).\n \n     QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT PAIN CONTROL:  A GUIDE FOR\nPEOPLE WITH CANCER AND THEIR FAMILIES.  This booklet discusses\npain control using both medical and nonmedical methods.  The\nemphasis is on explanation, self-help, and patient participation.\nThis booklet is also available from the American Cancer Society.\n[44 pages]\n \n     RADIATION THERAPY AND YOU:  A GUIDE TO SELF-HELP DURING\nTREATMENT. This booklet addresses concerns of patients receiving\nforms of radiation therapy.  Emphasis is on explanation and\nself-help. [52 pages]\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 33\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n \n     TAKING TIME:  SUPPORT FOR PEOPLE WITH CANCER AND THE PEOPLE\nWHO CARE ABOUT THEM.  This sensitively written booklet for\npersons with cancer and their families addresses the feelings and\nconcerns of others in similar situations and how they have coped.\n[68 pages]\n \n     WHAT ARE CLINICAL TRIALS ALL ABOUT?  This booklet is\ndesigned for patients who are considering taking part in research\nfor new cancer treatments.  It explains clinical trials to\npatients in easy-to-understand terms and gives them information\nthat will help them decide about participating. [24 pages]\n \n     WHEN CANCER RECURS:  MEETING THE CHALLENGE AGAIN.  This\nbooklet details the different types of recurrence, types of\ntreatment, and coping with cancer's return. [28 pages]\n \n \nBREAST CANCER EDUCATION SERIES\n \n     BREAST BIOPSY:  WHAT YOU SHOULD KNOW.  This booklet\n     discusses biopsy procedures.  It describes what to expect in\n     the hospital and while awaiting a diagnosis. [16 pages]\n \n     BREAST CANCER:  UNDERSTANDING TREATMENT OPTIONS. This\n     booklet summarizes the biopsy procedure and examines the\n     pros and cons of various types of breast surgery.  It\n     discusses lumpectomy and radiation therapy as primary\n     treatment, adjuvant therapy, and the process of making\n     treatment decisions. [19 pages]\n \n     MASTECTOMY:  A TREATMENT FOR BREAST CANCER.  This booklet\n     presents information about the different types of breast\n     surgery.  It explains what to expect in the hospital and\n     during the recovery period following breast cancer surgery.\n     Breast self-examination for mastectomy patients is also\n     described. [25 pages]\n \n     AFTER BREAST CANCER:  A GUIDE TO FOLLOWUP CARE.  This\n     booklet is for the woman who has completed treatment.  It\n     explains the importance of checking for possible signs of\n     recurring cancer by receiving regular mammograms, getting\n     breast exams from a doctor, and continuing monthly breast\n     self-exams.  It offers advice for managing the physical and\n     emotional side effects that may accompany surviving breast\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 34\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n     cancer. [15 pages]\n \n     PEDIATRIC CANCER EDUCATION SERIES\n \n     HELP YOURSELF:  TIPS FOR TEENAGERS WITH CANCER. This\n     magazine-style booklet is designed to provide information\n     and support to adolescents with cancer.  Issues addressed\n     include reactions to diagnosis, relationships with family\n     and friends, school attendance, and body image. [37 pages]\n \n     HOSPITAL DAYS, TREATMENT WAYS. This hematology-oncology\n     coloring book helps orient the child with cancer to hospital\n     and treatment procedures. [26 pages]\n \n     MANAGING YOUR CHILD'S EATING PROBLEMS DURING CANCER\n     TREATMENT.  This booklet contains information about the\n     importance of nutrition, the side effects of cancer and its\n     treatment, ways to encourage a child to eat, and special\n     diets. [32 pages]\n \n     TALKING WITH YOUR CHILD ABOUT CANCER.  This booklet is\n     designed for the parent whose child has been diagnosed with\n     cancer.  It addresses the health-related concerns of young\n     people of different ages; it suggests ways to discuss\n     disease-related issues with the child. [16 pages]\n \n     WHEN SOMEONE IN YOUR FAMILY HAS CANCER.  This booklet is\n     written for young people whose parent or sibling has cancer.\n     It includes sections on the disease, its treatment, and\n     emotional concerns. [28 pages]\n \n     YOUNG PEOPLE WITH CANCER:  A HANDBOOK FOR PARENTS.\n     This booklet discusses the most common types of childhood\n     cancer, treatments and side effects, and issues that may\n     arise when a child is diagnosed with cancer.  Offers medical\n     information and practical tips gathered from the experience\n     of others. [86 pages]\n \n \nSPANISH LANGUAGE PUBLICATIONS\n \nSi desea hablar con un especialista en informacion sobre el\ncancer, por favor llame al 1-800-422-6237 (1-800-4-CANCER).\n \nCANCER PREVENTION\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 35\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n \n     A TIME OF CHANGE\/DE NINA A MUJER.  This bilingual fotonovela\n     was developed specifically for young women.  It discusses\n     various health promotion issues such as nutrition, no\n     smoking, exercise, and pelvic, Pap, and breast examinations.\n     [34 pages]\n \n     DATOS SOBRE EL HABITO DE FUMAR Y RECOMENDACIONES PARA DEJAR\n     DE FUMAR.  This bilingual pamphlet describes the health\n     risks of smoking and tips on how to quit and how to stay\n     quit. [8 pages]\n \n     GUIA PARA DEJAR DE FUMAR.  This booklet is a full-color,\n     self-help smoking cessation booklet prepared specifically\n     for Spanish-speaking Americans.  It was developed by the\n     University of California, San Francisco, under an NCI\n     research grant. [36 pages]\n \n \nEARLY DETECTION\n \n     HAGASE LA PRUEBA PAP: HAGALO HOY...POR SU SALUD Y SU\n     FAMILIA.  This bilingual brochure tells women why it is\n     important to get a Pap test.  It gives brief, clear\n     information about who needs a Pap test, where to go to get\n     one, and how often the Pap test should be done.\n \n     HAGASE UN MAMOGRAMA: UNA VEZ AL ANO...PARA TODA UNA VIDA.\n     This bilingual brochure describes the importance of\n     mammograms in the early detection of breast cancer.  It\n     gives brief information about who is at risk for breast\n     cancer, how a mammogram is done, and how to get one.\n \n     LA PRUEBA PAP: UN METODO PARA DIAGNOSTICAR CANCER DEL CUELLO\n     DEL UTERO.  This booklet in Spanish answers questions about\n     the Pap test, including how often it should be done,\n     significance of results, and other diagnostic tests and\n     treatments. [16 pages]\n \n     LO QUE USTED DEBE SABER SOBRE LOS EXAMENES DE LOS SENOS.\n     This booklet in Spanish explains the importance of the three\n     actions recommended by the NCI to detect breast cancer as\n     early as possible:  requesting regular mammography, getting\n     an annual breast exam from the doctor, and performing a\n     monthly breast self-exam. [6 pages]\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 36\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n \n     PREGUNTAS Y RESPUESTAS SOBRE LA SELECCION DE UN CENTRO DE\n     MAMOGRAFIA.  This brochure lists questions and answers to\n     ask in selecting a quality mammography facility.\n \nPATIENT EDUCATION\n \n     ANTICANCER DRUG INFORMATION SHEETS IN SPANISH\/ENGLISH.  Two-\n     sided fact sheets (in English and Spanish) provide\n     information about side effects of common drugs used to treat\n     cancer, their proper usage, and precautions for patients.\n     The fact sheets were prepared by the United States\n     Pharmacopeial Convention, Inc., for distribution by the\n     National Cancer Institute.  Single sets only may be ordered.\n \n     DATOS SOBRE EL TRATAMIENTO DE QUIMIOTERAPIA CONTRA EL\n     CANCER.  This flyer in Spanish provides a brief introduction\n     to cancer chemotherapy. [12 pages]\n \n     EL TRATAMIENTO DE RADIOTERAPIA:  GUIA PARA EL PACIENTE\n     DURANTE EL TRATAMIENTO.  This booklet in Spanish addresses\n     the concerns of patients receiving radiation therapy for\n     cancer.  Emphasis is on explanation and self-help. [48\n     pages]\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 37\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n\n\n::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::\n                              AIDS News Summaries\n::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::\n\n               AIDS Daily Summary for April 19 to April 23, 1993           \n\n The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) National AIDS  \nClearinghouse makes available the following information as a public  service \nonly. Providing this information does not constitute endorsement  by the CDC, \nthe CDC Clearinghouse, or any other organization. Reproduction  of this text \nis encouraged; however, copies may not be sold.  Copyright 1993, Information, \nInc., Bethesda, MD \n\n       =================================================================     \n                                April 19, 1993 \n       =================================================================     \n \"Absence of HIV Transmission From an Infected Orthopedic Surgeon\" Journal of \nthe American Medical Association (04\/14\/93) Vol. 269,  No. 14, P. 1807  (von \nReyn, C. Fordham) \n\n     The risk of HIV transmission from an HIV-positive surgeon to  patient is \nextremely low, provided that the surgeon strictly  adheres to universal \ninfection control procedures, write C.  Fordham von Reyn et al. of the \nDartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center in Lebanon, N.H.  The researchers contacted \n2,317 former patients on whom an HIV-positive orthopedic surgeon performed \ninvasive  procedures between January 1, 1978 and June 30, 1992.  The  \northopedic surgeon voluntarily withdrew from practice after  testing positive \nfor HIV.  A total of 1,174 former patients  underwent HIV testing, \nrepresenting 50.7 percent of patients on  whom the orthopedic surgeon \nperformed invasive procedures during  the 13.5-year period.  Patients were \ntested from each year and  from each category of invasive procedure.  All \npatients were  found to be negative for HIV by enzyme-linked-immunosorbent  \nassay.  Two former patients reported known HIV infection prior to surgery.  \nThe examination of AIDS case registries and vital  records neglected to detect \ncases of HIV infection among former  surgical patients.  The estimated cost of \nthe initial patient  notification and testing was $158,000, with the single \nmost  expensive activity being counseling and testing.  This accounted  for 37 \npercent of the total expense.  The patient notification  and testing were \nconducted while maintaining the confidentiality  of the orthopedic surgeon who \nwas an active participant in the  planning and execution of the study.  \nNotifying patients of the  infected surgeon's HIV-status is both disruptive \nand expensive  and is not routinely recommended, the researchers conclude. \\ \n       =================================================================     \n\"Investigation of Potential HIV Transmission to the Patients of  an HIV-\nInfected Surgeon\" Journal of the American Medical Association (04\/14\/93) Vol. \n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 38\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n269,  No. 14, P. 1795  (Smith Rogers, Audrey et al.) \n\n     The risk of HIV transmission during surgery is so remote that it  will be \nquantified only by gathering data from multiple,  methodologically similar \ninvestigations, writes Audrey Smith  Rogers et al. of the Johns Hopkins \nUniversity School of Medicine  in Baltimore, Md.  The researchers identified a \ntotal of 1,131  persons in hospital databases who underwent invasive surgical  \nprocedures between 1984 and 1990 and for whom the HIV-positive  surgeon was \nlisted as the operating surgeon.  The AIDS case  registries were reviewed for \nall patients having undergone  invasive procedures and death certificates were \nobtained.  Among  the 1,131 patients, 101 were dead, 119 had no address, 413 \nhad  test results known, and 498 did not respond to the questionnaire. No \nstudy patient name was found in reported AIDS case registries. One newly \ndetected, HIV-positive patient was determined to have  been most probably \ninfected in 1985 during a transfusion.  There  was no HIV transmission in 369 \nperson-hours of surgical exposure, suggesting that HIV transmission to \npatients is unlikely to occur more frequently than once per 1000 person-hours \nof surgical  exposure.  The researchers determined there is no evidence to  \nsuggest that the surgeon failed to adhere to standard  infection-control \nguidelines; over 50 percent of the patients  with invasive procedures chose to \nbe tested, and of those whose  results were revealed, only one person was \nfound to be infected  with HIV.  The study patient's infection was probably \nthe result  of a tainted blood transfusion received in 1985.  As a result,  \nthere is no evidence that the transmission of HIV from the  HIV-positive \nsurgeon to any patient transpired, the researchers  conclude. \n      ==================================================================\n                                April 20, 1993 \n      ==================================================================\n \"Drug Concerns to Share AIDS Data\" New York Times (04\/20\/93), P. C10  \n(Kolata, Gina) \n\n     A total of 15 major pharmaceutical companies have decided, in a  highly \nunusual move, to share AIDS drugs and information while  the drugs are \nundergoing early clinical testing.  Dr. Edward  Scolnick, president of the \nMerck Research Laboratory in Rahway,  N.J., arranged the collaboration.  He \nsaid that cooperation  between companies seemed increasingly significant as it \nhad  become clear that combinations of drugs were likely to be more  effective \nin fighting HIV than any drug used alone.  The  researchers are hopeful that \nHIV, when faced with a combination  of several drugs requiring mutation at \ndifferent sites for  resistance to develop, will be unable to evolve all the \nmutations at the same time.  Therefore, several drugs taken together or one \nafter the other could halt the spread of HIV.  Currently, the  drug companies \ndo not know what other drugs their competitors are developing.  The new \nagreement allows companies to routinely  exchange animal data and safety data \non new AIDS drugs.  \"An  agreement like this will greatly facilitate \n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 39\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\ncompanies' ability to choose the best drug combinations much faster and in a \nmuch more  efficient way,\" said Scolnick.  He also said that the  \ncollaboration would not violate antitrust laws.  In creating the  agreement, \nMerck spoke frequently to members of AIDS advocacy  groups, including ACT-UP.  \nDr. Daniel Hoth, director of the  division on AIDS at the National Institute \nof Allergy and  Infectious Disease said, \"We're delighted to see the  \npharmaceutical industry take this step because we think that  increasing the \ninformation flow will likely accelerate the  discovery of better compounds for \nAIDS.\"  Related Stories: Wall Street Journal (04\/20) P. B1; Philadelphia  \nInquirer (04\/20) P. A3; USA Today (04\/20) P. 1B \n================================================================== \n\"The Next Step in AIDS Treatment\" Nature (04\/08\/93) Vol. 362, No. 6420, P. 493  \n(Maddox, John) \n\n     Although AZT was found to be ineffective in prolonging the lives  of \npeople infected with HIV, the findings do not indicate that  AZT should not be \nadministered in people with full-blown AIDS,  writes columnist John Maddox.  \nAZT has been used in the United  States in asymptomatic HIV-positive people on \nthe basis that  administration of the drug appeared to abate the decline of  \nT-cell counts.  However, a report in the Lancet demonstrated that AZT should \nnot be used early in the course of disease.  While the CD4 counts of the 877 \npeople given AZT were consistently greater  than those of patients receiving \nonly placebo, the first three  years of follow-up have shown that the \nproportions of people in  the two groups progressing to overt AIDS or even to \ndeath were  not significantly different at roughly 18 percent.  The  \nconclusions are that AZT is not an effective AIDS drug in  HIV-infected \nindividuals, and that CD4 cell count may not be a  reliable proxy for the \nprogression to AIDS in infected people.   But nothing is implied by the study \nof the utility of AZT in the  treatment of those in whom symptoms have already \nappeared--there  is no case for abandoning that treatment, at least on the  \nevidence now available.  It is much more alarming that the CD4  count has \nproven to be an unreliable mark of the efficacy of drug treatment in HIV \ninfection.  AIDS researchers should acknowledge  HIV is alive from the \nbeginning of infection and turn it into a  workable assay of the progress of \ndisease.  The general  application of such an assay will probably in itself \nprovide a  better understanding of the pathogenesis of AIDS, concludes  \nMaddox. \n      ================================================================== \n\"Infective and Anti-Infective Properties of Breastmilk From  HIV-1-Infected \nWomen\" Lancet (04\/10\/93) Vol. 341, No. 8850, P. 914   (Van de Perre, Philippe \net al.) \n\n     A vaccine preparation inducing a persistent immune response of  the IgM \ntype in the mother's body fluids could be valuable to  prevent transmission of \nHIV-1 from mother to child, write  Philippe Van de Perre et al. of the \n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 40\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\nNational AIDS Control Program in Kigali, Rwanda.  The researchers hypothesized \nthat  transmission of HIV-1 through breastmilk could be favored by the  \npresence of infected cells, by deficiency of anti-infective  substances in \nbreastmilk, or both factors.  A total of 215  HIV-1-infected women were \nenrolled at delivery in Kigali, Rwanda; milk samples were collected 15 days, 6 \nmonths, and 18 months post partum.  HIV-1 IgG, secretory IgA, and IgM were \nassayed by  western blot, for the latter two after removal of IgG with  \nprotein G.  In the 15-day and 6-month samples, the researchers  sought viral \ngenome in milk cells by double polymerase chain  reaction with three sets of \nprimers (gag, pol, and env).  At 15  days, 6 months, and 18 months post \npartum, HIV-1 specific IgG was detected in 95 percent, 98 percent, and 97 \npercent of breastmilk  samples; IgA in 23 percent, 28 percent, and 41 percent; \nand IgM  in 66 percent, 78 percent, and 41 percent.  In children who  survived \nlonger than 18 months the risk of infection was  associated with lack of \npersistence of IgM and IgA in their  mothers' milk.  The presence of HIV-1-\ninfected cells in the milk  15 days post partum was strongly predictive of \nHIV-1 infection in the child by both univariate and multivariate analysis.  \nThe  combination of HIV-1 infected cells in breastmilk and a defective IgM \nresponse was the strongest predictor of infection.  IgM and  IgA anti-HIV-1 in \nbreastmilk may protect against postnatal  transmission of HIV, the researchers \nconclude. \n      ==================================================================    \n                                April 21, 1993 \n      ==================================================================    \n\"Firms to Share AIDS Research in Global Venture\" Journal of Commerce \n(04\/21\/93), P. 7A \n\n     A total of fifteen U.S. and European pharmaceutical companies  announced \nTuesday they will swap drug supplies and information on early-stage AIDS \nresearch to hasten the search for combination  therapies to fight HIV \ninfection and AIDS.  The companies said  the unusual move resulted primarily \nfrom the increasing  concentration of AIDS research on combination therapies \nsince  realizing that HIV is likely to develop resistance to every  individual \nAIDS drug.  Edward Scolnick, president of Merck & Co.  Research Laboratories, \nled the collaborative effort that took a  year of negotiations to come \ntogether, said participants.  In  addition to Merck, the other companies \ninvolved in the  Inter-Company Collaboration for AIDS Drug Development are  \nBristol-Myers Squibb Co., Burroughs Wellcome, Glaxo Inc.,  Hoffman-La Roche, \nEli Lilly & Co., Pfizer Inc., Smithkline  Beecham, AB Astra, Du Pont Merck, \nSyntex Inc., Boehringer  Ingelheim, Miles Inc., and Sigma-Tau.  The \nparticipants said that all companies involved in AIDS drug development they \nwere aware  of had joined the collaboration, and that any company actively  \ninvolved in HIV anti-viral development may participate.  Scolnick said the \ncollaborators would most likely meet every couple of  months for a daylong \nscientific meeting where they will review  for one another their preclinical \n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 41\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\nand early clinical data.  The  American Foundation for AIDS Research (AmFAR) \nwas pleased with  the news of the collaboration, which it hopes will lead to \nthe  development of drug combinations that will reduce viral  resistance.   \nRelated Story: Financial Times (04\/21) P. 1 \n==================================================================    \n\"Guidance Over HIV-Infected Health-Care Workers\" Lancet (04\/10\/93) Vol. 341, \nNo. 8850, P. 952  (Horton, Richard) \n\n     The United Kingdom's Department of Health recently followed the  advice \nof AIDS experts that there is no scientific reason for  routine HIV testing \namong health-care workers.  Following recent  highly publicized reports of \nhealth professionals who contracted  HIV, the department issued revised \nguidelines on the management  of such cases.  Dr. Kenneth Calman, Chief \nMedical Officer, said  doctors, dentists, nurses, and other health-care \nworkers have an  ethical duty to seek advice if they have been exposed to HIV  \ninfection, including, if appropriate, diagnostic HIV testing.  He said, \n\"Infected health care workers should not perform invasive  procedures that \ncarry even a remote risk of exposing patients to  the virus.\"  The guidelines \n--------- end of part 3 ------------\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I heard a great Civil War story...      A guy on the battlfield is shot\nin the groin,   the bullet continues on it's path, and lodges in the\nabdomen of a female spectator.    Lo and behold....\n\nAs the legend goes,   both parents survived,  married,  and raised the child.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"My last response in this thread fell into a bit-bucket and vanished\n(though appearing locally).  I'll repost it, since I always feel\nslighted when someone appears to ignore one of my postings in a\nconversational thread, I don't want Rob to think I'm doing so.  Since\nthis is now dated, however, don't feel compelled to respond...\n\n\nI suspect you meant this in context of the Jewish tradition you have\nbeen referring to; one problem with a highly-interpreted tradition\nlike this is what happens when a schism occurs, and over time certain\nlarge and influential branches of the heretical group come to favor\nexactly a \"face value\" interpretation...\n\n\nWhile the context of the time is important, value judgments must\nultimately be according to current understanding, or at least to some\nbase standard (relative stability\/success of a society, e.g.).  This\nis obviously true in comparing it to practices of surrounding people,\nfor instance: according to the Bible, the surrounding people were\nimmoral savages with repulsive and inhuman habits.  We need to look\nrather at what those peoples were *really* like.  For instance, in\nwhat way is it better to worship a single god whose presence is\nsymbolically strongest in a tent or temple over multiple gods some of\nwhose presence is symbolically represented in a statue?  By the\nBible's own terms idolatry is inherently evil, but I see no evidence\nthat the followers of the various other religions of the area and time\nwere particularly bad people, relative to the people in the Bible.\n\n\nSounds good, but it presupposes teeth-rending neighbors, which I see\nno support for.  One can argue that post-facto assertion of inhumane\nneighbors can be used to make moral points, but that doesn't mean that\nthe actual neighbors really were inhuman.  More to the point, such\ndehumanization of the people across the river or over the mountain, or\neven of a different people dwelling among us, is all too common.\n\n\nNote that I'm speaking of historical interpretation here, for instance\nclaiming that Hammurabi's \"an eye for an eye\" was primitive brutal\nretribution, while Moses' version was an enlightened benign fine\n(because the tradition has since interpreted the phrase that way).  As\nof 3000 years ago or so, they probably both meant the same thing.\n\n\nI don't belittle the accomplishments, particularly the intellectual\nones, of the Jewish people.  I have given up on trying to think by\nanalogy, since I don't know of any other 'tribe' that is at all\nsimilar (the closest I can think of are the Romany, but I don't know\nenough about them to make a meaningful comparison).  I think a\ntradition of reflective study, of flexible rather than dogmatic\ninterpretation, is a good thing.  I think that with such an attitude a\ncase could be made that you could have done as well starting with a\n1943 Captain America comic (or whatever the Babylonian equivalent\nwould have been).\n-- \nJim Perry   perry@dsinc.com   Decision Support, Inc., Matthews NC\nThese are my opinions.  For a nominal fee, they can be yours.\n\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"re: extended Ka bands.\n\nI recently bought a 2 band detector.  You guys must all think I'm\nnuts, right?  Well, I did a little research into Ka usage in this\narea and found out that Ka is not currently being used in this state\nas well as surrounding states.  Here's how I found out:\n\n- A cop friend who did spend time nailing speeders doesn't even know \n  what Ka is.  He's heard of K, which is what they use here and I\n  explained that Ka is used for photo radar etc.. He then said, yeah,\n  \"Ka stands for K automatic\"... duuhh.  He then went on to say that\n  plans were being made for getting laser guns as far as going high\n  tech were concerned, but he didn't know too much.\n\n- My 8 year old 2 band whistler was consistently going off at speed traps,\n  even the real sneaky ones.\n\n- When I called the Escort Shop, they confirmed that Ka is not used here\n  or in surrounding states.  They did claim that Laser was being used\n  a lot here, which I was quite skeptical of.\n\nSo in the end, instead of spending a lot of money and\/or waiting\nmonths for a state of the art detector, I got a low priced, high\nperformance 2 band Escort 2200.  Incidentally its performance is equal\nto their top of the line model in X and K band detection.  I know that\nEscort has been surpassed by other brands lately, but I've never fully\nrelied on a detector and I was convinced that the Escorts would be at\nleast quite good, which was good enough for me and my wallet.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nThe 9144w4 is the date code but none of my books list a W03563.\nWhat is it out of and can you tell us what kind of circuit it is in?\n\nIn the odd case that 9144w4 is not the date code, NTE says a 9144-60\nis an AM reciever subsystem and a 9144-61 is an FM subsystem, but these\nare both in 16 pin packages.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nsame here\n\n\nI received similar information\/advice about what appears to be the same problem \nBenjamin has (and I still have).\nNIS has all the information about the Macs\n(I even put explicit entries in \/etc\/hosts to no avail).\nMonitoring with 'snoop' on my Classic, the initial REXEC packet is sent to\nthe the SUN, which sends something to the correct Mac, but nothing appears\nat the Mac.\n'rexecd' is number one suspect, but it's more suble than the README suggests and\nI haven't yet looked into it further.\n\n-- \ncallum.downie@brunel.ac.uk\nFaculty of Technology, Brunel University, Uxbridge, UB8 3PH, UK\n+44 895 274000 x2730","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Subject: RE: Europe vs. Muslim Bosnians\nFrom: f54oguocha\nDate: 13 MAY 93 02:28:53 GMT\nSerbs.\n1929).\nIslam \nnot\nwho\nCroats? \nhas \nchildhood was \n\n\nYou've asked a crucial question that underlies much of the genocide. \nBosnian Muslims are slavic in ethnicity. They speak Serbo-Croatian. But\nthere is a Christo-Slavic ideology whereby all true slavs are Christian\nand anyone who converted to Islam thereby must have changed ethnicity by\nchanging religion.  See the poems of Ngegos or the novels of Ivo Andric\nwho brilliantly displays these attitudes on the part of what he calls\n\"the people\" (i.e. Christian slavs).  For this reason, the war-criminals\ncall all the Bosnian Muslims \"Turks\" even though they are not ethnically\nTurk and do not speak Turkish as their first language.  For this reason,\nwhat is actually a genocide labeled against those who are ethnically\nidentical but religiously \"other\" is called, paradoxically, \"ethnic\ncleansing\" rather than \"religious cleansing.\"\n\nThus, while a war rages between Serbs and Croats as a continuation of\nWWII, and older agenda, the annihilation of Islam and Muslims from\nBosnian, is being carried out under the cover of the Serbo-Croat war.\n\nRegards,\n\nMike.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Have any of you read Harold Camping's book \"1994?\"? It's about\nbiblical evidenc that points to September of 1994 as the probable time\nof Christ's second coming It's a very informative book and a must read\nfor all Christians.  You can get i at your local bookstore for only\n$14.95.\n\nPeace!","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I have some color gifs which I would like to archive in a much smaller\nsize using a grayscale palette of 16 shades. The quantization to 16 grays\nintroduces some ugly bands in the pictures, which can be nicely eliminated\nby dithering. Up to now I have used XV to process the images, but now I\nwould like to automate the procedure.\n\nThe problem is that XV can't (I think) convert images automatically, and the\nobvious alternative PNMPLUS (PPMQUANT and PNMDITHER) don't even get close to\nXV's quality. PNMDITHER apparently dithers in RGB, even though the images\nare in grayscale. The dithering routine in XV seems to use the natural image\ncolors for the dither. Is this or any similar routine available in the\npublic domain? If so, where?  ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nOn the other hand, remember the old adage that a verbal agreement isn't worth\nthe paper it's printed on.  Once you sign, you are going to have one hell of a\ntime proving fraud based on a comparison to what you thought you were going to\nsign ...\n\nBeing in the right is one thing, proving it is another.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n  I thumbed through the Janus Report in a bookstore recently looking\n  for a clue about their methodology.   They were very unclear about\n  it, but as far as I could tell they relied on their professional\n  associates in the psychotherapy profession to provide the subjects,\n  interviews, and numbers.    If so, this would hardly represent an\n  average cross-section.    I posted to Usenet at the time asking for\n  more data about their methodology but answer came there none.  (I\n  must have been out of my mind for even asking for factual information\n  on Usenet!)\n\n\n\n  This is the problem.  People have to have a lot of confidence in \n  the anonymity of a study before they can counted on to speak \n  freely about stuff like that.    But I agree that if someone's \n  going to lie it will be in the direction of a gay person claiming\n  to be straight rather than the other way around.\n\n\n\n  I don't see why there's any more evidence for this figure than any\n  other.    It seems totally arbitrary.  \n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nThe above conveniently ignores the murder of four BATF agents by the\nBranch Davidians in an unprovoked ambush.\n\nAny government that allows tinpot dictators to set up shop and declare\na private state has drifted into anarchy. There are laws to control\nthe ownership of guns and the BATF had good reason to beleive that\nthey were being violated. They set out to obtain a legal warrant and \nattempted to serve it only to be met with gunfire when they rang\nthe doorbell.\n\nThe paranoid assertion that the BATF fired first in an unprovoked\nassault assumes that the BATF were on a death wish. Had they\nexpected the B-D to be anything other than peacefull citizens who\nwould accept a search authorized by a court they would have turned up\nin a tank and broken the door down on day one.\n\nThe stupidity was the attempt to serve a warant on the place by\nludicrously underarmed and unprotected police. \n\n\nIf anyone on the net cares to suggest a sure fire method of bringing\nthe murderes of four police officers to justice perhaps we could\nhear it.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"NOTE:  followups to comp.dcom.modems (for obvious reasons)\n\n\n\n\nthe Courier is their top-of-the-line product, thus the higher price.  I've\nnever taken a real look at the Sportster line (only Couriers), but from what\nI've gathered, it's basically more of an entry-level modem.  probably\ndoesn't meet the same specifications that the Courier does.  I'm not sure\nif the Sportster line is fully DSP driven like the (more recent) Courier\nmodems are, so upgrades in the future may be an issue.\n\nagain, take all of the above with a grain of salt...I've never evaluated\nthe Sportster, so I'm going by bits and pieces that I've heard.  if you\nwant a real answer, post the question in comp.dcom.modems and you'll find\npeople who HAVE worked with the Sportster.\n\npersonally, though, if I were going to look at the Courier modems, I'd\nbuy the Dual Standard...then I'd get both HST and V.32bis.  in fact, this\nis exactly what I did.  :-)  I'm sitting here looking at my USR DS right\nnow.\n\nand now, to correct a few VERY incorrect statements....  folks, if you want\nto get reliable answers to modem and\/or UART questions, post them to\ncomp.dcom.modems.  if you post in other groups, you never know what you'll\nget in the way of an answer (you may very well get a good answer...or you\nmay get something like the one below).  at least in cdm, if someone posts\ncomplete and utter bs, you'll see a flurry of folks correcting them (to\navoid spreading faulty info).\n\n\njust as it does at lower speeds, too.  there is absolutely nothing in\neither CCITT Recommendation V.42 or V.42bis that says that they can only\noperate on modems that are running V.32bis.  V.42bis, of course, is\ncurrently only *STANDARDIZED* for operation on top of V.42 (in its primary\nmode of operation, LAPM), but that's about as far as that goes.\n\nand just in case there's some confusion on this, V.42\/V.42bis are also\nsupported by the Courier line (unless you have a really ancient one).\n\n\ntake a second look at the original question:\n\n                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\nsee the V.32bis up there?  the question was not about the Courier HST\nmodem, or about the Courier Dual Standard...it was about the Courier\nV.32bis modem.  the modem in question does not support HST, period.  it\ntherefore does not support the 16.8 kb HST.\n\nalso, not all Courier HST \/ Courier Dual Standard modems support the 16.8 kb\nversion of HST.  my Dual Standard only supports HST at 14.4 kb.  there are\neven older models that only run HST at 9.6 kb.\n\n\nHST is USR's proprietary modulation scheme....  but we're not talking about\nHST, we're talking about V.32bis.  V.32bis is most definitely *NOT* a\nproprietary modulation scheme.\n\n\nI do hope you didn't mean for these two sentences to be related in some\nway.....\n\nfirst off, V.32 and V.32bis are both synchronous and asynchronous.  this is\npart of the CCITT Recommendation (i.e., part of the standard).  it isn't a\nfeature unique to the Sportster (I just looked at the appropriate chapter\nin the Courier DS manual).\n\nsecond, HST is not ``one way only.''  more correctly put, it is an\nasymmetrical modulation scheme, meaning it doesn't work at the same speed\nin both directions.  HST operates at [9.6 \/ 14.4 \/ 16.8] in one direction,\nand has a low-speed back-channel in the other direction.  the high-speed\nchannel goes in the direction of the higher data flow.  this is fine if\nyou're logged on to say, a BBS, and type one letter and get screens of\ninfo back, transfer files (not using bimodem), etc....  there is, of course,\na penalty for turnaround time when the high-speed channel needs to reverse\ndirections.\n\nV.32 and V.32bis are both symmetrical, meaning they do transfer the full\ndata rate in both directions at the same time.\n\nthird, synchronous vs asynchronous has absolutely nothing to do with\nsymmetrical vs asymmetrical...they are two completely different topics.\n\n\nagain, more correctly put, *SOME* of the Courier line will be upgradeable\nto whatever ``V.fast'' is called when it's complete.  if you have the large\nfootprint Courier modems (like I do), you're S.O.L.....  there was an\nupgrade plan a while back to upgrade to a small footprint variety, which\ncould eventually be upgraded to support V.fast, but the cost of the two\nupgrades together pretty much put it higher than just buying a new modem.\n\nlater.....\n   --jim\n\n--\n#include <std_disclaimer.h>                                 73 DE N5IAL (\/4)\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nINTERNET: jim@n5ial.mythical.com  |  j.graham@ieee.org     ICBM: 30.23N 86.32W\nAMATEUR RADIO: n5ial@w4zbb (Ft. Walton Beach, FL)          AMTOR SELCAL: NIAL","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\tMy god, a sane person!  Somebody asking intelligent questions rather\nthan spouting of unsubstantiated drivel and making comparisons to Nazi\nGermany.  I question, along with others, the initial raid by the ATF.\nThere are some definite questions needing answers.\n\n\n\tProbably.  Which is why there are so many people angry at the\ninitial confrontation.  Why attack a compound with as many people in that\ncompound who are willing to die for their leader?  Further, they attacked\nin the daylight hours without proper backup, medical support, etc.  That\nwas rather stupid...\n\n\n\tThis I doubt.  While I question the ATF's initial raid, I believe\nthat the remainder of the standoff was handled fairly well with the single\nexception of the psychological \"warfare\" by blaring music, etc.  I think\nthat was uncalled for and probably hindered the outcome.\n\n\n\tSee above...\n\n\n\tAgreed.\n\n\n\tWhich is actually rather refreshing nowadays.  Most of the time, the\nhigher-ups claim \"I don't remember...\" or \"I had no involvement...\"  :-)\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nActually, the situation is even worse than that.  The *total mass* of the\nPluto Fast Flyby spacecraft is only 250ish pounds, and most of that is\nsupport equipment like power and communications.  The mass available for\ninstruments is maybe 10% of that.  I don't think a BATSE will fit...\n\nActually, would you need the shielding?  My understanding is that it's\nmostly there to give the detectors some directionality.  No point in\ndoing that if you've only got one.  I'm sure the burst detectors that\nhave flown on other deep-space missions haven't weighed that much.\n(Mind you, they're probably still too heavy -- the PFF people would put\nmore Pluto-specific instruments on first, if they had any mass to spare.)","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nKaufman,\nI think we have a problem in this newsgroup: every time somebody puts\ndown serious questions on Israel, the first response would be \"what about\nthe Arab countries?\" ...\n\nMost of the Arab countries governments are ruling their people with Iron\nfist policy and Dark Ages democracy (if exists). Ironically, these are \nthe countries that the \"West\" would like to deal with and would wage \nmassive wars to protect them and their resources.\n\nFor Israel the situation is different, Israel claims it is a\ndemocracy -- I would call it selective democracy, that abides by Western\ndemocratic standards. If Israel is saying that then\nit has to be compared to Western standards. If this comparison is the\nadvertized propaganda from Israel, then we have to look at seriously at\nquestion that can and should be asked regarding any country advertizing\nthis standard. \nThat is very incorrect, I see you have been brain-washed well, I would\nrecommend non-Zionist history books).\n\n\nPlease, speak for yourself. Do not imagine that \"everyone\" subscribes to\nyour beliefs, you would be lucky if you believe them yourself.\n\n\nWhat is this, you trying to destroy the credibility of the author, why?\nall of this because he asked some serious question. These tactics of\ndestroying the credibility of a person beacuse you do not agree with\nher\/him is old and does not work anymore, go tell your superiors\n(AIPAC?) to change their guide books.\n\n\nSalam,\n\nEyad Nuweiri\nSoftware Engineer\nUnify Corp.\t\t\n\n*** Disclaimer: This is my personal views, not of my employer ***\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"It was unlikely, improbable.  For the Bruins, it was the stuff of\nnightmares; for the Sabres, it was a taste of heaven.  \n   For the first time since 1983, the Sabres have won the first three\ngames of a series.  Last time was a three games to none victory in a\nbest of five against the Canadiens.  It takes a little more work this\ntime.  The Sabres seem ready to put in the extra work.\n   On the heels of a shutout, one that took away Boston's home ice\nadvantage, the Sabres came back with a four to three overtime win.  It\nwasn't easy.  It wasn't always pretty.  It still worked.\n   John Blue got the nod for Boston, supplanting Andy Moog as starting\ngoaltender.  Moog was pulled midway through game 2 on Tuesday.\nBuffalo started with a goal by Mogilny, his fourth of the playoffs, on\nthe powerplay, with Boston's Don Sweeney and Gord Roberts in the box.\nLaFontaine and Hawerchuk had the assists.  Goal number two was\nKhmylev's first of the playoffs, a pretty goal scored when the Sabres\nstole the puck and passed to an open and waiting Khmylev.  Smehlik and\nHannan assisted.  Determined not to be shut out, Boston tallied on a\nshot by Ray Bourque on the powerplay, with Colin Patterson and Bob\nSweeney both in the box.  Period two was scoreless, a split of\npenalties between the two clubs.  The third saw Boston's Smolinski get\nhis first, courtesy of Oates.  Buffalo resecured the lead two minutes\nlater, from former Bruin Bob Sweeney (Khmylev and Carney).  Neely tied\nthe game 3\/4 of the way through the third, sending it into overtime.\nLast year overtime meant a Bruin win.  Last night, it spelled sweet\nrevenge, as Buffalo scored with Ray Bourque in the penalty box, on a\ntip in by Khmylev (Hawerchuk and LaFontaine) a minute into overtime.\nBoth teams finished with 34 shots.  \n        Power-play conversions--Boston 5-1. Buffalo 7-2.\n        Referee--Rob Shick.\n\nComments:  Shick pocketed the whistle in the third, allowing a lot of\nclutching and grabbing.  Buffalo's penalty killing unit was fantastic\nagain.  Mogilny was checking.  Granted he missed once and instead\nflung his body into the boards, but checking like this is a novel idea\nto Mogilny.  The crowd was unbelievable.  I don't think I've ever\nheard a crowd that loud in the Aud for a Sabres game (remember, I was\nonly five when they played for the cup.  I don't remember it and no\none took me to the games).  Doug Bodger, in a postgame interview,\nnoted that he tried to say something to Hawerchuk, but the crowd was\ntoo loud, even though he was shouting.  It didn't seem to matter, as\nmost of the Sabres and even Muckler said it was great.  Yuri Khmylev\ndidn't seem to realize that he was the game's third star and didn't\nskate out when his name was called.  Sweeney (2) and Fuhr (1) each\nwere out before Yuri made his appearance, sans jersey.  When asked in\nan interview later whether he knew how big a goal that was, he\nresponed yes (ok, it was through an interpreter and he said more than\nthat, even more than the interpreter said, but I digress).  The\ninterviewer seemed to think just because he doesn't speak English, he\nmust not understand playoffs.  Uh-huh. \n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"[I'm going to cut \"Rex\"'s ramblings down a bit.]\n\n[...]\n\n   Rex, there are literally hundreds of thousands of 32nd degree\nMasons in this country, and thousands of 33rds. If nasty stuff was\nreally going on, don't you think you'd have more than a couple of\ndisgruntled members \"exposing\" it? Heck, if what you say is true, then\nRev. Norman Vincent Peale is an Osiris worshiper.\n \n[...\nLong quote from someone named Hislop (source not given) deleted. I'm\nattempting to extract from it the relevent points: \n\n  * Osiris is actually Nimrod, a Babylonian Deity. \n\n  * \"It is admitted that the secret system of Free Masonry was originally\n    founded on the Mysteries of the Egyptian Isis, the goddess-mother, or\n    wife of Osiris.\"\n\n  * The Babylonian Nimrod and Osiris are both connected with the building\n    trade, ie, with Masonry.\n\n  * Nimrod, as the son of Cush, was a negro. [isn't this refering to a \n    Biblical Nimrod, rather than the Babylonian god?]\n\n  *  ...there was a tradition in Egypt, recorded by Plutarch, that 'Osiris\n     was black'.\n...]\n\n     There is a long tradition in Masonry of claiming ancient lineage\nfor the order, on the flimsiest of grounds. This dates right back to\nthe Constitutions of 1738, which cite Adam as the first Mason. I've\nseen other claims which place Masonry among the Romans, Greeks, and\nEgyptians, and Atlanteans. I even have a book which claims to prove\nthat Stonehenge was originally a Masonic temple. \n\n    Claims prove nothing. Where's the beef, Rex?\n\n[...Claims ex-Mason showed him leopard skin he wore in lodge]\n\n   I'd have to check this. The tomb paintings I remember don't show\nthis.\n\n\n   Can you give ancient citations for this? The druids were suppressed\nover 2000 years ago. What's your point?\n\n   This whole \"leopard skin\" business sounds bizarre.  I have not yet\ngone through the Scottish Rite (which contains all of those \"higher\ndegrees\" anti-Masons get so excited about, and which was invented in\nthe 1750's), but I know enough people who have (and who are good\nChristians), that I reject your claim.\n\n\nNot so much a 'slap in the face' as 'a weary feeling of deja vu'. I'm\ngoing through a very similar argument over on soc.culture.african.american.\n\n\n    Why don't you try reading some serious books on Masonic history, such\nas Hamill's \"The Craft\"?\n\n\n   Because we got honest. If you can come up with actual evidence that\nMasonry existed prior to 1390, I'd be VERY impressed (actually,\nanything earlier than 1630 would be pretty good.)\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\tPeter Trei\n\t\t\t\t\t\tptrei@mitre.org","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":": >the Single Launch Core Station concept.  A Shuttle external tank and solid\n: >rocket boosters would be used  to launch the station into orbit.  Shuttle\n: >main engines would be mounted to the tail of the station module for launch\n: >and jettisoned after ET separation.\n\nKarl Dishaw (0004244402@mcimail.com) replied:\n: Why jettison the SSMEs?  Why not hold on to them and have a shuttle \n: bring them down to use as spares?\n\nOne performance reason comes to mind: if you jettison the SSME's, you\ndon't have to drag them with you when you perform your circularization\nburn(s).  On-orbit, SSME's are just dead weight, since we don't have an\nSSME H2\/O2 pressurization mechanism which works in zero-G.  This means\nthat you can't use them for re-boost or anything else.  Dead weight has\na couple of advantages, but more disadvantages.\n\nThrow-away SSME's might let us use some of the old SSME's which are not-\nquite-man-ratable.  But I doubt we'd do that; the cost of a launch\nfailure is too high.\n\n-- Ken Jenks, NASA\/JSC\/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office\n      kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov  (713) 483-4368","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I am running windows 3.1 in 386 enhanced mode.  The sound card I have\nis the ATI Stereo F\/X-CD sound card which claims Adlib and Soundblaster\ncompatibility.\n\nUsing Windows MediaPlayer, I can play the midi files that came with\nmy sound card.  However, I can't play any of the midi files that belong\nto the WinJammer midi editor that I ftp'd from cica.  I also can't\nplay any midi files I generate with muzika (also from cica).  When I\ntry to play the files, a dialog box pops up saying that the music\nmay not play right, and it has a checkbox asking me if i wish to disable\nthis message in the future.\n\nIs this normal, or do I have something set wrong?  I would really like\nto be able to write music on muzika and have my computer play it.\n\nI also ftp'd the game dare2dream for windows (from cica) and its music\nwon't play either - I get the same dialog box.\n\nThe MIDI Mappers that I have are ATI Ext MIDI, ATI OPL3 MIDI, and Vanilla.\nI have tried using all three.\n\nAny help, suggestions, shoulders to cry on, etc. would be appreciated\nvery much.\n\nJohn P.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n[stuff deleted]\n\nOh my, a REAL honest-to-goodness flamewar fired up here..... and it even has\nsome relevance to motorcycling. Amazing.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nActually, the iAPX86 family has a HALT instruction that causes the CPU to\ncease processing instructions.  The CPU resumes processing either by being\nreset or by receiving an external (hardware) interrupt.  This is different\nfrom the power management facilities Victor mentions.  Of course, whether an\noperating system's idle loop uses the HALT instruction is another matter\nentirely.\n-- \nKenneth R. Ballou\t\t\t\tVOICE:\t\t (617) 494-0990\nOberon Software, Inc.\t\t\t\tFAX:\t\t (617) 494-0414\nOne Memorial Drive, Cambridge, MA  02142\tInternet:     ballou@oberon.com","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Cross-posted to talk.politics.guns from can.politics:\n\n# >been to Waco, Texas lately? yes, the government takes care of us\n# >all, doesn't it? as long as you belong to a government-sanctioned\n# >religion.\n#\n# Excuse me, but didn't these gun-ladden cult members threaten, shoot and kill\n# some people?\n\nThey threatened no one.  Their neighbours thought they were a little\nstrange but all in all the kind of people you would want to live\nnext door to.\n\nOne version has the BATF serving a *search* warrant by jumping out\nof a horse trailer with guns and tossing concussion grenades.  If\nthis is the true order of events then the 'cult' could not know\nthat a search warrant was being served and since there was no proof\nthat these guys were police,  the 'cult' had every right to defend\nthemselves.\n\n: Torching themselves shows briliant tactics, and convinces me\n: they *realy* belong in society ...\n\nIf you watch actual footage of the fire from start to finish it\nis not at all clear that fire wasn't started by the tanks.  The\npeople who survived are claiming that the fire was started by\nthe tanks knocking over some kerosene lanterns.  The FBI is\nclaiming that the 'cult' started the fire.\n\n'they *realy* belong in society' is a catchy phrase but\nI'm personally waiting to see what the Texas Rangers have to say\nabout it all before I pass judgment.   Why don't you do the same.\n\nSome more interesting facts about the Waco incident:\n\n1)  The original assault was conducted by BATF officers wearing\n    an assorted types of camouflage.  I saw, on CNN, at least\n    three different types.   I would be hard pressed to identify\n    a bunch of guys in 'bring-your-own' battle fatigues as\n    uniformed officers of the law even if they were claiming to\n    be police.\n    \n2)  The BATF has been lying from the beginning:\n    + \"We only had handguns\" - the original footage showed 4 BATF\n      officers on a roof top getting shot at,  one had an MP-5\n      assault sub-machine gun.\n    + \"We were out gunned\" - sub-machine guns and shotguns are the\n      BEST in quarters weapon,  you can't be out gunned when you\n      have the best guns available for the job.\n    + \"We didn't know they had guns that would shoot through doors!\" -\n      this one is the best,  there are very few guns that won't shoot\n      through a household door,  or through a house WALL for that\n      matter.  Since officers from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and\n      *Firearms* should know that,  they are either lying or incredibly\n      incompetent.  Not to mention criminally negligent if they are\n      shooting bullets that they think will stop when the encounter\n      plywood.\n    + \"We had a search warrant.  Actually, we had an arrest warrant.\n       No, wait,  we had both.  Yeah, that's the ticket.\n       Oh, and they're child molesters too.  And they make *drugs*.\n       Did we mention we think they have rocket launchers.\"\n      - The story from BATF and FBI spokespeople has changed daily\n      and their claims were getting increasingly outrageous.\n      \n3)  Throughout the siege the FBI and BATF have be claiming that one\n    of their biggest concerns was that Koresh and his followers would\n    mass suicide.   Now they are claiming that that's what he did\n    AND that they are surprised that he did.  Huh?\n\nAll in all I think that anything the FBI and BATF say should be\ntaken with a grain or two of salt.\n\nRob.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I am willing to pay a reasonable amount for AIRLINE CERTIFICATE\/VOUCHER,\nAM LOOKING FOR:\n\t\t1) CERTIFICATE\/VOUCHER THAT IS VALID FOR A ROUND-TRIP\n\t\t   TICKET (COAST TO COAST OR ANYWHERE IN US)\n\t\t2) TRANSFERRABLE TO MY NAME","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Monday, April 12, 1993\n\nKamloops 4 @ Spokane 1 (Kamloops wins 3-0)\n\n***\nWestern Final Matchup\n\nKamloops @ Portland\n***\n\nTuesday, April 13, 1993\n\nNo games necessary.\n\nWednesday, April 14, 1993\n\nNo games necessary.\n\nThursday, April 15, 1993\n\nNo games scheduled.\n\nFriday, April 16, 1993\n\nRegina 2 @ Swift Current 7 (Series: 0-1)\nKamloops 3 @ Portland 6 (Series: 0-1)\n\nSaturday, April 17, 1993\n\nKamloops 4 @ Portland 8 (Series: 0-2)\n\nSunday, April 18, 1993\n\nSwift Current 5 @ Regina 2 (Series: 2-0)\n\n\nWHL Playoff Scoring Leaders\nApril 18, 1993\n\nPlayer                                   GP  G   A  Pts\n-------------------------------------------------------\nJamie Black, Tacoma                       7   7  15  22\nAndy Schneider, Swift Current             8   7  13  20\nValeri Bure, Spokane                      9   6  11  17\nAllan Egeland, Tacoma                     7   9   7  16\nDean McAmmond, Swift Current              8   9   6  15\nJason Krywulak, Swift Current             8   6   9  15\nCam Danyluk, Medicine Hat                10   9   5  14\nTodd Holt, Swift Current                  8   5   9  14\nTyler Wright, Swift Current               8   5   9  14\nMike Mathers, Kamloops                   10   5   9  14\nJeff Friesen, Regina                     11   5   9  14\nRick Girard, Swift Current                8   3  11  14\n\n\nWHL Playoff Leading Goaltenders\nApril 18, 1993\n(minimum 60 minutes)\n\nPlayer                                   MP  GA  SO GAA\n-------------------------------------------------------\nScott Langkow, Portland                 295  12  0 2.44\nMilan Hnilicka, Swift Current           497  21  1 2.54\nTrevor Robins, Brandon                  258  11  0 2.56\nSteve Passmore, Kamloops                341  16  1 2.82\nMark Dawkins, Red Deer                  269  13  0 2.90\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Okay... here's some gripe\"ing\" (?griping?... whatever).\n\n\t(I live in Santa Barbara... for reference... I think)\n\n\tOkay, ABC showed the Kings\/Flames... fine... YAWN.\n\n\tESPN (through a fortunate rainout of a baseball game) showed the\n  Red Wings\/Toronto game... cool.\n\n\tBut I SWEAR that the advertisements all week long had said that\n  ESPN would show Pitt\/NJ on Tuesday and Bos\/Buff on Thursday.\n\n\tI raced home from work early (4:30 Pacific) to catch the game, but\n  ALAS, it was the Boston\/Buffalo game and then they promised that they would\n  show the Pitt\/NJ game on Thursday.  OVERNIGHT they changed their mind.\n\n\tI didn't mind THAT MUCH.  I watched the game (hockey is MUCH better\n  than NO hockey).  During the game their were no video highlights from the\n  Patrick division.  What the hell was going on?  At least they should show\n  video highlights of the other games (especially the NYI\/Caps game that was\n  so close).  My father (lives in Bowling Green, Kentucky [Bumbf*ck, Egypt])\n  got to watch the Pens game on ESPN.  I just don't get it.\n\n\tThe biggest problem is that Buffalo or Boston fans who didn't want\n  to see the Pittsburgh\/New Jersey game 2, will turn on their TVs on Thursday\n  and see the Pittsburgh\/New Jersey game 3 instead of the Buffalo\/Boston game\n  3.  At least, in my case, I just had to wait 2 more days to see my game.\n\n\tIf I were a big Boston or Buffalo fan and I missed the game on\n  Tuesday due to false advertising on the part of ESPN, I'd be mad as\n  hell.\n\n\tOh well... hopefully we'll get better coverage next year OR\n  SOMETHING.\n\nMatt Coohill","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I know this has been asked a million time, but..\n\nWhat was the ftp site carrying 30-40 .ZIPs of full POV \"source\" files,\nincluding JACK.ZIP and KETTLE.ZIP? I've once been there but\nunfortunately lost the address.\nI'm in a little hurry with it, so please e-mail me at\njtheinon@kruuna.helsinki.fi. Thanks..","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Hello All!\n\nI recently acquired a CD-ROM drive, a Mitsumi (mfg. Feb\/93)   [Hey, it\nwas free :-)   ]    I'm quite pleased with the performance, but it seems\nto crash a lot when I use PLAYCD.EXE that came with it a DESQview 2.31 -\nThoughts?  This mainly happens when my BBS is running in the background and\nI load the program up.. If I load the program, it doesn't crash, and I start\nthe disk, stop the program and start the BBS its OK, but otherwise I have\nbig problems.. (IE, they can only be solved with a cold boot).\n\nIf -anybody- can mail me to help me, I would be eternally grateful \n(unfortunately, my feed to this group is a little unreliable so I would appreciate\n if you could mail, but by all means, post it too because I'm sure somebody else \n would like to know...)\n\nCheers,\nWes\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"What is the basis of the idea of hell being a place of eternal\nsuffering?  If it is Biblical, please reference.\n\nHere's my train of thought: If God is using the Earth to manufacture\nheavenly beings, then it is logical that there would be a certain\nyield, and a certain amount of waste.  The yield goes to Heaven, and\nthe waste is burned (destroyed) in Hell.  Why is it necessary to\npunish the waste, rather than just destroy it?\n\nPeace and joy,","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"    The IRQ and interface-select jumpers are pretty straightforward, but I\n    don't grok the settings of W10-W18 (also labelled A15 through A18).\n    Could somebody tell me which settings of these four jumpers correspond\n    to what I\/O addresses?\n    \nThe U-B PCNIC (also OEMed by IBM for a while) is the only Ethernet card I\nknow of that doesn't use I\/O addresses.  It only has interrupts and shared\nmemory.  The jumpers you see control bits 15-18 in the base address of the\nshared memory.  I can't recall which is 1 and which 0, but that's easy\nto determine with DEBUG.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"  The \"low radiation\" claims one sees on monitors these days pertain to\nallegedly harmful electromagnetic emissions, which does not necessarily have\nanything to do wtih TEMPEST security.\n  (I think the alleged hazard is BS, but that's another topic.)\n\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nThe above explained propaganda which certainly has nothing to do with \nthe true facts is also today the main source of ASALA\/SDPA\/ARF terrorists'\nillegal activities that still try to make money out of the bodies of \nthe innocent victims of the Turkish genocide.\n\nThe criminal acts of the x-Soviet Armenian Government come directly\nunder the scope of the Convention on Genocide adopted by the General \nAssembly of the United Nations on December 8, 1948, containing the \nfollowing provisions:\n\nThe Contracting Parties, having considered the declaration made \nby the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution\n95 (1) dated December 11, 1946, that genocide is a crime under\ninternational law, contrary to the spirit and aims of the United\nNations and condemned by the civilized world;\n\nRecognizing that in all periods of history genocide has inflicted\ngreat losses on humanity; and\n\nBeing convinced that, in order to liberate mankind from such odious\nscourge, international cooperation is required;\n\nMembers agree as hereinafter provided:\n\nArticle 1. The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether\ncommitted in time of peace or in time of war, is a crime under \ninternational law which they undertake to prevent and to punish.\n\nArticle 2. In the present Convention genocide means any of the\nfollowing acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or\nin part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as \nsuch:\n\nA) Killing member of the group;\nB) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;\nC) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life \n   calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole \n   or in part;\nD) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;\nE) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group;\n\nArticle 3. The following acts shall be punishable:\n\na) Genocide\nb) Conspiracy to commit genocide\nc) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide\nd) Attempt to commit genocide.\n\nArticle 4. Persons committing genocide or any of the other acts\nenumerated in Article 3 shall be punished, whether they are\nconstitutionally responsible rulers, public officials or private\nindividuals.\n\nHad the Convention on Genocide existed before the Armenian \nmassacres of the Turks and Kurds, it would probably have been \ndifficult for the x-Soviet Armenian Government and its responsibles\nto start murdering of civilian, defenseless, faithful Ottoman\ncitizens, children and women, (GENOCIDE AND ATTEMPT TO GENOCIDE),\nto make plans to exterminate, as they have done also to Urartus\nand Jews, faithful Ottoman citizens (CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT GENOCIDE), \nto incite Armenians to armed revolt against the legal authority\nand to commit Genocide, (DIRECT AND PUBLIC INCITEMENT TO COMMIT\nGENOCIDE).\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nExactly.  Although this may be a dissapointing answer, there has to be an\ninterplay of the two.  Personal Ethos and Societal Morality.  A person's\nself-generated\/learned set of beliefs are usually expressed on a purely\nmental\/verbal level, and don't usually find expression in society except in an\nimpure (not in the sense of bad :) ) state.  Sometimes this has to be so.\n\n\nAlso, what if one feels oneself to be part of more than one society, in a very\nreal sense?  To use the obvious example, there is a political society, and a\nracial society, and a gender society, and sometimes they do not always agree on\nevery issue...\n\n\n\nYes.  Perhaps with an infamous \"do what you want so long as it doesn't hurt\nothers?\"  The problem with this is that it is merely saying what you CAN do: it\nis not a morality in that it doesn't propound any specifically preferred\nbehaviours.\n\n\nI'll add a hearty \"me two\".  However, one could just as well say just because\ncertain actions are moral does not make them legal: one still doesn't really\nget an impression of which one is truly \"right\".\n\n\n\n\nbest regards,","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nYep, though my reasons for being relatively quiet are simple...last year\nI woofed when we went up 3-1 on the Canucks...and look where it got me.  :)\n\nDomi got tossed in the 2nd with a high-sticking major.  He had been\nplaying with Kris King and Stu Barnes...and it was this line that was\narguably the best in the first two games.\n\nDefinitely a good thing...every little cheer helps, Evan.  :)\nGood thing the net doesn't need a voice to operate...I won't have one\nSunday night when I get home, I hope.  White noise here we come!  ;)\n\nOne thing, I WILL say though...Vancouver can KEEP Steve Armitage and\nJohn Garrett as a broadcast team...those two are BAD, especially when\nyou are spoiled by Don Wittman.  (At least four or five times, Steve called\nBarnes Selanne.  Whoops! :)","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"No, it is more because van drivers need a little support for driving\nsuch underpowered pathetic and truly utilitarian vehicles.  Me and\nmy '71 used to wave and be waved at all across the country between\nNH and CO.  Now that we live in So. Cal., though, I find you'd have\nto damn near wave your arm off to keep up with all the van drivers!\nThis is truly vee-dub heaven.\n\npeace,\nTaffe\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nBecause much of the public aren't even aware of the NAMES of informative\npublications.  Look at the 'wealth' of material on the typical newsstand.\nUnless the person is working in some kind of technical environment, with\nthe usual trade journals, all they ever see is the media (note: media\nin this context is the popular media - TV, radio, daily newspapers, and\nsuch publications as Time, Newsweek, and all that).  And they all say\npretty much the same thing.  I see most of them being in the range of\ncenter-left to far Left, and generally supportive of pie-in-sky\nwe-will-take- care-of-you-think-for-you-cradle-to-grave.  There seems\nto be an air of arrogance that the individual is not capable of\nunderstanding major issues so the media doesn't bother to inform them\n(as with Clipper, for example) or tells the people how to interpret\nevents in others.  What is lost sight of is that the people are not good\nat understanding things because they are not TOLD accurate information\nabout them.  It is a lot to expect of the people for them to be\nclarirvoyant.  For example, I would have been unaware of Clipper had\nI not picked it up on USENET.  How much of the population has USENET,\nlet alone Internet access?\n\nFor access to better publications, the person has to spend time digging.\nMany folks, especially who work long hours, have families, etc., do not\nhave TIME to go digging, and many are not (yet) aware things are wrong,\nso are not motivated to dig.  Not saying its right, just saying that is\nthe way things are.  People aren't upset about things when they aren't\nTOLD.  And the less than objective media is a major contributer to the\nproblem.\n\nAnd then compound that with an attitude of arrogance in the civil service\n(bureaucrats, politicians) that act as if the person without political\nconnections, or deep pockets (potential contributer) should have few if\nany rights, being a resource to be used by those in control for their\npolticial or financial gain.  Some Law Enforcement agencies act as if\nthey regard the common person with a rather intense degree of contempt,\npeons that are supposed to do what they are TOLD, and get very nasty\nwhen someone questions them.  The media pundits\/editors, etc tend to\nfall into those with privilege, and tend to not be upset by the current\nstate of affairs.  The fellow in DC, who shot the swimmer in his Jacuzzi\nfor daring to swim in it, with an ILLEGALLY owned gun (violating the law\nhe pushed to be foisted on everyone else), ends up walking where a less\nwell-connected person would have been crucified.  A typical example of\none standard for 'us', a much more restrictive standard for 'other folk'.\n\nPerhaps I am not real eloquent in expressing this, but the solution\nsure as hell is NOT to make it HARDER for people to find out what is\ngoing on, or dismiss their concerns because one happens to be in a position\nwhere one feels they are exempt or insulated.  Such as that hypocrite of\na journalist in DC described above.  One notices that these less-than\ncomplimentary points about that double-standard was NOT covered in the\nmedia.  I feel the reason was it dovetailed with their political views\non the subject, and it involved a 'brother' journalist.\n\nIsn't it time for our 'objective' media, the MAIN SOURCE of info for the\naverage person, to start being what they claim to be, instead of spin\ndoctors for the Statist elements?\n\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nGermans are just more organised; you can't blitz all of Europe in a\nmatter of , what, 9 months, unless you're pretty organised. If we tried\nthat, there'd just be a whole bunch of tanks backed up at the border,\nwaiting for some jerk in the right lane trying to get over to make a\nleft turn.\n\n\"This, of course, caused Germany to invade Belgium. One of the important\nlessons of history is that anything, including late afternoon\nthundershowers, will cause Germany to invade Belgium.\"\n--Dave Barry\n\nHappy Motoring!\n\nJMR\n\n'93 SL2, blue-green","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Hi there,\n        I'm using POv-Ray on my IBM compatible at home, but I would like to \nrun some things at work on our VAX computer. I believe there is a version \nof the source code for POV-ray that is VAX specific, but I'm not sure where \nto find it (I've looked at the several sites where the IBMPC version of it \ncan be found). Can anyone help me?\n\nThanks in advance,","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"How come noone mentions Eric Hoffer when talking about \nfanatic behavior anymore?\n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nThere's also a program called ODYSSEY (MODEM directory on the Simtel\narchives) that emulates MNP 4 and 5 (others, too, I think, but these were\nwhat I was interested in).  I was getting a lot of garbage when I called\none number, and MNP 4 cleared it up completely on my ordinary 2400 modem.\n(Fortunately, the remote end had an MNP modem.)\n\nI tried MNP 5, too, but it seemed to lock up the computer.  Your mileage\nmay vary.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I'm about to revise my resume and was wondering if I should put on there the\nfact that I'm a Christian.  Give me some input on what you think.\n\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nThat's one way to put it.  Keeping the algorithm classified means that \ndisclosure of it falls under the rubric of \"national security.\"  Nothing like \nfederal marshalls to guard a monopoly...\n\n\nAgreed, although this is still somewhat better than the status quo :).\n\n\nSounds like a job for the Free Software Foundation :)\/2...\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n   >Bull shit. There is no reason in the world why we can't say that\n   >taking views analogous to the KKK's or some such organization is\n   >wrong. There is no reason why some morality may not be legislated. As\n   >it is we do not allow theft, or murder, or rape. Why should we allow\n   >hateful sppech whose only purpose is to stir anger and violence.\n   >Harry.\n\n   I think the answer to Mr. Mayamsky's question can be found in the\n\t \t\t ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^(Mr. Mamaysky's)\n   first amendment to the US Constitution.\n\n\t   Amendment I                                           (1791)\n\n\t   Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of\n\t   religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or\n\t   abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the\n\t   right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition\n\t   the government for a redress of grievances.\n\n   Steve\n\nI do not say that freedom of speech should be banned. Far from it.\nI am merely suggesting that there are certain things which can be\nuniversally agreed to be morally incorrect. There are not many such\nthings. But there are some. As an example:\n\n(1) murder is morally incorrect\n\n(2) the idea that one group of people is somehow racially inferior to\nanother is morally incorrect\n\netc.\n\nThe point is that any action which serves to promote a morally\nincorrect action should be forbidden. This implies that no one has the\nright to say that an innocent person should be murdered. Regardless of\nfreedom of speech, I may not stand on a street corner and advocate the\nmurder of innocent people. The reason for this is that murder is a\nmorally incorrect action.\n\nIn the same way, since bigotry is morally incorrect in the narrow\ndefinition which we have given it, (2), I, nor any one else, has the\nright to stand on a street corner and promote bigotry. Such an\nenforcement does in no way deny any one their rights as guaranteed by\nthe first amendment. It merely ensures that no person may be the\ntarget of an attempt to deny him a fundamental moral right, such as\nthe right to not be murdered, and the right not to be discriminated\nagainst.\n\nI believe, Mr. Berson, that to blindly accept the constitution is a\nterrific mistake. We must cinstantly question the constitution and\ninterpret it in a way befitting the society in which we live. Anything\nshort of such an effort would render us little more than trained\nmonkeys, who are able to merely repeat what they have heard without\npaying the slightest bit of attention to the intent of the document in\nquestion.\n\nWould you disagree, Mr.Berson?","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nJust in case the original poster was looking for a serious answer,\nI'll supply one.\n\nYes, even when steering no hands you do something quite similar\nto countersteering.  Basically to turn left, you to a quick wiggle\nof the bike to the right first, causing a counteracting lean to\noccur to the left.  It is a lot more difficult to do on a motorcycle\nthan a bicycle though, because of the extra weight.  (Ok, so my\nmotorcycle is heavy.  Maybe yous isn't.)","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Mike, Ring is the RED wire. Tip is the GREEN wire of most standard\nphone lines. They two constitute the two wires most often used for\nvoice telephone (the two live lines). They are the two innermost\nconnectors of an RJ-11 phone jack.\n\nAnother way of telling is that if you measure voltage from RED to\nGREEN (ring to tip. tip\/green being at ground potential of the\nvoltmeter), it should read -48 volts in the on-hook no-ring position).\nI am 98% sure it's -48 V and not +48 volts. Doesn't hurt a phone too\nmuch if they're reversed, it's just bad if one happens to somehow get\ngrounded to earth ground elsewhere).\n\nAdditionally, when off-hook, the voltage drops to about -4 to -9 Volts\nDC. I think it is supposed to correspond to a 36 to 40 mA current\nloop. And lastly, when ringing, the two wires develop an AC potential\nof about 80 V p-p at 20 to 30 Hz across them (where you get the\nelectromechanical old fashioned bell ringer from).","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nI tried to send this as private mail, but mail to benj@ossa.hq.nasa.gov was\nrejected, so here it is:\n\nHere is an extract from the README file that comes with MacX:\n\nUsers of remote commands with Sun machines may find that their remote commands \nappear to do nothing and there is no output from the Sun machine.  This is due \nto a feature of the Sun rexecd network daemon which quietly disconnects from \nrequesting machines that are not known to the Sun|s network address (\/etc\/hosts\nor NIS hosts) database.  To successfully use remote commands with a SunOS-based\nmachine, there must be an entry in the network address database for the \nMacintosh which is running MacX.\n\n-- ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
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{"text":"\n\n\n\nThey do interpolate - it's not linear interpolation though. You are correct\nthat the frequency content is not altered (more specifically, the baseband\nspectrum is preserved, and so is every Nth image spectrum. The other\n(N-1) in N image spectra are removed, where N is the oversampling rate)\n\n\nIdeally the filter has a gain of 1 from 0Hz to 22050Hz, and a gain of 0\nfrom 22050 to the new Nyquist frequency. In practice a finite transition\nband is required, and there is also a certain amount of pass-band ripple\nand stop-band leakage. With a high order (eg 200 taps) digital filter,\na very good approximation can be easily achieved.\n\n <<< BIT DELETED ABOUT OBSERVATIONS OF INTERPOLATION FILTER AT WORK >>>\n\n\nNo, they actually use a digital FIR just like yours, but built in hardware,\non custom VLSI chips for (mainly) economic reasons.\n\n\n\nI guess that the answer is somewhere between the two.\n\nAs an interesting (?) aside, some of you out there may be aware of a scheme\nused by Pioneer and Wadia, which is called (by Pioneer, at least) Legato\nLink. I haven't heard one of these players, but by reading advertising\nblurb, and a couple of pseudo-technical articles I deduced that all they\ndo is build a lousy digital oversampling filter, and let a load of the\nfirst image (ie aliassed) spectrum through. Talking to Bob Stuart (of\nBoothroyd Stuart, aka Meridian) confirmed my suspicion. He said that it\nsounded awful, but then he would, wouldn't he...\n\nChristopher","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I was annoyed to find that this guy posted my private e-mail response to\nhim, but since I believe what I said, I'll defend it anyway.\n\n\n\nBy \"almost\" I mean the differential cryptanalysis attack.  The chosen\nplaintext attack requires a detailed analysis of about 2^36 chosen plaintexts\ndrawn from a total of about 2^47 that need to be run, if I understand the\nsituation correctly.  This is certainly a \"break\" under the meaning of the\nAct, but does not constitute much less work than the brute force keysearch.\n\nThe rest of his article assumes that we can figure out the Skipjack\nencryption algorithm E by choosing the correct data to send through it and\nobserve the results.  I wish him joy of it, and choose not to try that attack.\n\nI am not defending the system, and in fact am offended by the ideas of\nescrowed keys or a secret algorithm becoming a de facto industry standard.\nHowever, I also object to opposing it for the wrong reasons, since that\nweakens the case against it.\n\nI said (in my private e-mail):\n\nNo, it's quite different.  The government would have no percentage in\nchoosing F to be a weak key, since it's not to their advantage to have\nanybody else know it.  The \"experts\" could thus assume that F is no worse\nthan anything else during their analysis.  Totally different situation\nfrom unknown S-boxes.  Again, I'm not saying it would be good or\nsatisfactory for the experts to just be given the raw algorithm without\nthe rest of the surrounding details regarding the chip and protocols and\nso on -- simply that I doubt that they <would> be given all the\ninformation.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Does anyone know it the Macintosh LC has Pin 7 (the Pin that enables better\nFlow Control)? I know the LC 1 & 2 doesn't have it, but what about 3? I have\nhad conflicting reports so far... Please help. Thank you.\n\n(BTW, do you use RezNova's NovaLink? Yes? E-mail me!)\n\n--- Via UCI v1.35 (C-Net Amiga)\n\n\nDennis T. Cheung\nThe DTC(tm) Corporation of America\nAmerica Online: DTC\nInternet: DTC%MLinkNet@HotCity.Com","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nFor the past week or so I've been trying to install a QIC-36 tape drive\nand an everex 8bit full size controller in my 486dx50 EISA system with no\nluck. I end up getting an error (miscompare) during the streaming read\npart of the test. I am pretty certain that the port setting, irq & dma are\nset properly since the tape responds properly to all commands, rewind,\nretension, write and erase, I also booted the system clean and still the\nsame proble so I also tend to eliminate any memory conflicts. It has been\nsuggested that my bus speed is too fast and that I need to slow it down.\nMy system has an AMI BIOS and I don't have the advanced chip setting\noption that I have seen on other systems so I cant do this. Am I going to\nhave to accept that this set up won't work? or can anyone suggest a work\naround? I will be glad to hear your advice\/suggestions.\nTony\n\n\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nIf possible, I split lanes. Even if you don't get all the way to the\nhead of the line, at least you won't rear-ended. I always worry more when\nI'm in the lane, at the front of the line, and no one in behind me. Then you\nhave to keep an eye on your mirrors. I also get ready to pull a hard right,\n*just in case*.\n\nMike","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nUnlike the CIA, the NSA has no prohibition against domestic spying.  Read\nBamford's THE PUZZLE PALACE.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nSource for \"does not\" comment: the CD-ROM and manuals for the March beta\n-- there *is* no X windows server there.\n\nWill there be?  Of course.  (Even) if Microsoft supplies one with NT,\nother vendors will no doubt port their's to NT.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nOf course they did, otherwise they wouldn't have staged the\nraid in the first place.\n\n\n\n\n\nNapalming seems a bit redundant.\n\nThe Stupidity was in the BATF mindset 'We're from Washington\nWe Know Better\"  Execute Plan A: Storm the compound in a No-Knock\n- the locals are gullible rubes, who cares that they served\nwarrents by knocking on the door.  Such an old fashioned, out dated\nmethod of Law Enforcement anyway.  Gotta have the latest Armament\nTechnology, doncha know?\n\nSweet baby buddah - didn't these clown ever read \"Dealing\nwith Paranoids\"?\n\nchus\npyotr\n\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"It's me again!","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n[...]\n\n\n\nI think your performance will depend upon the X server. \n\nI'm running Linux and XFree86 on a 33Mhz 486DX with 4MB of RAM (8MB swap) and\nit runs just fine.  Its a lot better than some of the crappy old Xterminals\nin the labs at school anyway.\n\nYou could probably outfit a 386SX with a minimal Linux\/X setup for $900\nand be better off than with an Xterminal. IMHO.\n\n\nScott\n--","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Hi!\n\t\nIs it possible through either pin configuration or through software\nprogramming to change the IP numbers on an ethernet card?\n\t\nThanks in Advance!\n\n-- \n=-Dave   *Tigger!*","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nThis is quite a misrepresentation.  After WWI, many Bosnian Muslims were\nkilled and their land taken over by Serbs, and the motive was plunder,\nnot some fictitious \"supression of rebellion.\"  Even earlier, one can\npoint to the destruction of mosques in Serbia itself and expulsion of\nMuslims.  Here is what Dr. Vaso Cubrilovic, political adviser to the\nSerbian monarchic regime, says in his memorandum \"The Expulsion of the\nArnauts\" which he presented to the royal government of Stojadinovic\non March 7, 1937, in Belgrade:\n\n   The Mode of Removal\n   -------------------\n\n   [ describes how expulsion of ethnic Albanians from Kosova is to proceed\n   through state terror and \"private initiative\", i.e. Chetnik plunder: ]\n\n   Private initiative, too, can assist greatly in this direction.  We should\n   distribute weapons to our colonists, as need be.  The old forms of Chetnik\n   action should be organized and secretly assisted.  [...]\n   ...the whole affair should be presented as a conflict between clans and,\n   if need be, ascribed to economic reasons.  Finally, local riots can be\n   incited.  These will be bloodily suppressed with the clans and the\n   Chetniks, rather than the army.\n\n   There remains one more means, WHICH SERBIA EMPLOYED WITH GREAT PRACTICAL\n   EFFECT AFTER 1878, that is, by secretly burning down Albanian villages\n   and city quarters.\n\n(Emphasis above is mine.)  These events in Serbia itself forced out virtually\nall Muslims during late 19th century.  This policy of state terrorism\nagainst Muslims, aided by Chetnik \"private initiative,\" has continued in WWII\nand today.  For example, Muhamed Hadzijahic in his book \"Od tradicije do \nidentiteta: Geneza nacionalnog pitanja bosanskih Muslimana\" (Sarajevo:\nSvjetlost, 1974) writes (pg. 235) how Serbs killed a Muslim in Foca\nin WWII even though he claimed to be a Serbian patriot, explaining\ntheir action as follows:\n\n   \"Inasmuch as you were a Serb, you sullied the Serb name, because you\n   are a Turk [i.e. Muslim].  And since you helped us, we shall not\n   torture you.\"\n\nso the shot him instead of cutting his throat.  In the past year, Serbs\nhave repeated the slaughter of Muslim residents of Foca.  Destruction\nof mosques, including priceless historical monuments, completes the\neradication of the Muslim presence from territories claimed by Serbs.\n\n\n\nWhich part do you claim is untrue?  Explain yourself, or withdraw your claim.\n\n\nCroatia never had many Muslim citizens for historical reasons, because it\nwas not a part of the Ottoman Empire.  The last major battles between\nAustro-Hungarian monarchy and the Ottoman Empire in Croatia were at the\nend of the 17th century.  Need I remind you that modern Croatian nationalism\ncame into being with Dr. Ante Starcevic, who saw Bosnian Muslims as the\nbest Croats, so much so that in 1853 he contemplated moving his operations \nto Sarajevo?  You are confusing clericalist Croatianism with Croatian\nnationalism here.   Political nationalism has always been stronger.  As\nfor your other theories, you are clearly overjoyed that Croat-Muslim\nalliance in Bosnia-Herzegovina is now in trouble.  Arguments such as\nyours are clearly intended to create and deepen this split.  \n\n\nIn international relations 101 you'll learn that unless weak unite to\ncounterbalance the strong player, soon they are taken over and that's the\nend of them.  Balance of power thinking has brought together Croats\nand Bosnian Muslims.  This is only natural; all other alignments are\nunstable.  I'm working on pointing out this basic fact: Croats and\nMuslims have been aware of it for as long as Serbia has existed.  \nYou are wrong if you think only \"image\" is at stake here.  Croatia has\na deep interest in her alliance with Bosnian Muslims, and vice versa.  \n\nI think Tudjman understands this, although he does not have much choice \nat this point.  Tensions should have been defused better earlier, before \nany open confrontation developed.  Although I still think Croatia will\nsurvive, it will lose a lot; but Bosnian Muslims may end up even worse\noff.  However, their position now is so horrible that perhaps they do not\nsee it getting any worse.  The key point is: do they still have any hope left?\nIf not, then all bets are off.\n\nMr. Stojanovic is clearly very, very happy about this.  I'm deeply hurt.\nThis is not about some \"image\" but about survival of a concept of a\npartnership which I believe is natural and essential for both Croats\nand Muslims.  ","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nI've tried 72105.1351@compuserve.com\n\nBounced twice....  Any other guesses?","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Howdy all,\n\n\n\nHmm... 48 bit aye?\nWell, it beats a 32-bit design for thee sake of ellegance.\n48 bit means 16 bits per primary colour.\nThe 2^48 nr of colours is a bit misleading. It makes more sense to see it\nas 65536 possible shades of pure red.\nThis might actually make some sense, since 256 shades of red (24 bit colours) \nmay produce visible 'jumps' in intensity.\nThen again, a byte per primary colour for each pixel is the most elegant way \nof doing colour graphics, because it leaves ya such a tidy (and fast) program\ncode.\n\n\tTake care,\n\n\t\tBram","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nIf it's any consolation, I had a similar problem. As I recall, if I exited\nfrom a DOS session while in full-screen mode, the menu titles had changed to a\nscrambled version of the icon title font (or something like that). It only\nstarted happening after I used IconTitleFaceName in WIN.INI to change the\ndesktop font to Arial. So I stopped exiting from DOS sessions while in\nfull-screen mode.\n\nMy Mac used to do something similar. Aren't computers weird?\n\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nRon> Viper also sells some fancy field disturbance sensor that\nRon> supposedly detects people approcahing the car....\n\nRon\n\nIf your Viper system were tuned like a neighbor's is you wouldn't get\nany sleep because of the damn thing waking every one in the neighborhood\nup.\n\nWe all used to try to ignore the alarm, but have now made a pact to\nbombard the house with night-time visits and phone calls when ever we\nare awakened because some thunder storm passed over the next county\nor a stray dog looked at the car.\n\nCar alarms are a serious pain-in-the-ass!\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t-ks\n\np.s. Real men don't have car radios since the exhaust is too loud to\n     hear it anyway <GRIN>!\n-- ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Does Autodesk has a BBS ?\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I still think a major point is being missed... If you are worried about\nsoftware pirates, NOTHING will stop them. These are people who crack\nsoftware (mostly games, but so what) daily for fun. They can usually find\na crack around anything, especially if the manufacturer leaves a hole for such a thing.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I commend everybody to look at the FTP site 'ftp.cicb.fr'\n-> Ethernet address 129.20.128.2 <-\nin the directory \/pub\/Images\/ASTRO:\nthere are lots of images (all of kinds in astronomy subject)\nespecially in GIF format and a NEW ! directory of some JPL animations\n\nFor your comfort, README files in all subdirectories give size and\ndescription of each image, and a 7 days' newer images' list is in READMENEW\n\nNote: you can connect it as 'anonymous' or 'ftp' user, then the quota\n      for each is 8 users connected in the same time.\n      So, if the server responds you \"connection refused\", be patient !\n\n2nd note: this site is reachable by Gopher at 'roland.cicb.fr'\n          -> Ethernet address 129.20.128.27 <-\n          in 'Divers serveurs Ftp\/Le serveur ftp du CRI-CICB\/Images\/ASTRO'\n\nIf you have any comments, suggestions, problems,\nthen you can contact me at E-mail 'rousself@univ-rennes1.fr'","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Ezek 22:26 God seems to be upset with the priests who have made no\ndifference between the holy and the profane.  This brought to my mind a\nsermon I heard recently in which the speaker said \"God's second name does\nnot begin with a D\" referring, I believe, to use of God's holy name and\ntitles as swear words.  I was also reminded of the experience of Moses at\nthe burning bush when God told him \"Take off your sandals, for the place\nwhere you are standing is holy ground.\"\n\nThese and other texts seem to imply that God's people must treat holy\nthings differently from other \"common\" things, or \"make a difference\"\nbetween holy and common things.\n\nThe obvious questions are \n\nWhat makes something holy? and How are Christians (primarily) supposed to\nmake this difference between holy and common things?  (e.g. God's name,\nthe Holy Spirit, the Holy Bible, etc.)","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I have been struck down this past week by a stomach bug and fever\nwhich went away quickly when treated with an antibiotic. The\npharmacist told me the antibiotic is effective against a wide\nvariety of \"gram-negative bacteria.\" I was wondering where I\nmight have acquired such a bacteria. Could they hang out in swimming-\npool water, or would the chlorine kill them? \n\nFeeling better, I am","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"     I believe that the large number of digits on his paycheck (and\nit would not be binary) would help Don to be a fan of Ulf!, Jaro, and\nMario.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Lets not forget ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Iridology is descendant from a 19th-century theory which mapped certain\ndiseases to sectors of the iris of the eye.  There's enough natural\nvariation in color that a skilled examiner can find indicators of\nvirtually any disease.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"From article <1993Apr23.153005.8237@starbase.trincoll.edu>, by  ():\n\n\nSo out of the numerous baptists that you hang around with you haven't\nseen any of the above behavior? Which trait (stocking food for more\nthan a week, or owning a firearm) is the definition of a cult? What\nproof ( aside from David's aquittal ) leads you to believe that any\n\"banging\/marrying\" of thirteen year olds was going on? Does your\nwife know that you equate 'marriage' with 'banging'?\n\n\nSince this guy doesn't like the concept of freedom of religion, he's\ngoing to insult you AND your mom!\n\n\nSociopath - person with asocial or antisocial beahavior.\nSociopaths - 200 persons, all who can't stand other people, sharing\n             the same ranch-house.\n\n                                ^^^---It all suddenly becomes clear.\n\nWhy does everyone discover the Net in the spring?","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"The LAW of RETRIBUTION\n          \n               Violent crime, racism, bigotry, domestic abuse, rape, \n          police brutality and oppression, human rights violations, \n          etc., ETC., continue to get worse and worse in spite of more \n          and more man-made laws on all levels from local ordinances to \n          international law. \n          \n               The man-made laws are NOT working. \n\n               \"WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE!\"  \n          Perpetrators remain IGNORANT of The LAW--a universal, cosmic, \n          and Spiritual Law--The \"LAW of RETRIBUTION\" or \"KARMA\": \n          \n               \"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a \n          man soweth, that shall he also reap.\"  Galatians 6:7, KJV. \n    \n               \"He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity; \n          he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword.  \n          Here is the patience and faith of the saints.\"  Revelation \n          13:10, KJV. \n    \n               \"What goes around comes around.\"\n\n               This LAW of the Universe is just as real as the physical \n          law that for every action there is an equal and opposite \n          REaction. \n    \n               It is the ENFORCEMENT, the TEETH, behind The \"GOLDEN \n          RULE\": \"Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.\" \n\n               ALL perpetrators in the present will become VICTIMS in \n          the future, most likely in a FUTURE INCARNATION.  Most \n          victims in the present were PERPETRATORS in the past, usually \n          during a PREVIOUS LIFE. \n          \n               What is needed is a MASSIVE WORLDWIDE PROGRAM of \n          EDUCATION to teach ALL present and potential perpetrators, in \n          a convincing manner (with sufficient supporting evidence), \n          that what they do to others WILL BE DONE TO THEM, in this \n          life or the next. \n          \n               Anyone who doubts the FACT of REINCARNATION, and the \n          related \"LAW of Retribution\", should read books such as \"HERE \n          AND HEREAFTER\", by Ruth Montgomery, which describes several \n          kinds of evidence supporting REincarnation, including \n          HYPNOTIC REGRESSION to past lives [about 50% accurate; the \n          subconscious mind can sometimes make things up, especially \n          with a bad hypnotist], SPONTANEOUS RECALL (especially by \n          young children, some of whom can identify their most recent \n          previous relatives, homes, possessions, etc.), DREAM RECALL \n          of past life experiences, DEJA VU (familiarity with a far off \n          land while traveling there for the first time on vacation), \n          the psychic readings of the late EDGAR CAYCE, and EVEN \n          SUPPORTING STATEMENTS FROM THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE including \n          Matthew 17:11-13 (John the Baptist was the REINCARNATION of \n          Elias.) and John 9:1-2 (How can a person POSSIBLY sin before \n          he is born, unless he LIVED BEFORE?!). \n          \n               Strong INTERESTS, innate TALENTS, strong PHOBIAS, etc., \n          typically originate from a person's PAST LIVES.  For example, \n          a strong fear of swimming in or traveling over water usually \n          results from having DROWNED at the end of a PREVIOUS LIFE.  \n          And sometimes a person will take AN IMMEDIATE DISLIKE to \n          another person being met for the first time in their PRESENT \n          life, because of a bad encounter with him during a PREVIOUS \n          INCARNATION. \n\n               People would behave much better toward each other if \n          they knew that their actions in the present will SURELY be \n          reaped by them in the future, or in a FUTURE INCARNATION! \n\n \n               For more information, answers to your questions, etc., \n          please consult my CITED SOURCES (books like \"HERE AND \n          HEREAFTER\", by Ruth Montgomery). \n\n\n               UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this \n          IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED. \n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I am using OWL and want to display the output from a stream in a popup\nwindow.  Is there a way to perhaps redirect cout to a window?   Or\nalternatively set up a separate stream that supports output and be\nable to display the stream output in an TEdit control?\n\nAnyone ever done something like this?\n--","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
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{"text":"\n\n\nJust a couple of days ago, I heard on the radio news that a Neo-Nazi\norganization had set up a BBS to keep its members informed.  According\nto the radio man, the Nazis were using encryption to reduce their risk\nif they were prosecuted.  No, I do not have any more information.\n\nHave fun.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I'm planning on getting a StyleWriter II for my Mac SE (2.5 MB ram, HD, two\n800k floppy drives).  Do any of you out there have any recommendations as\nto whether running System 6.0.8 is better or worse than switching to 7.1.\nI don't do much real work on this machine any more, but would like to keep\nit for word processing (Using Word 4 and don't see much advantage to going\nto Word 5, since it is slower).\n\nAny help or comments would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I have already made the clear claim that\n\nDon't mind my saying this but the best example of obfuscation is to\ncondemn without having even your most basic facts straight. If you\nwant some examples, go back and look at your previous posts, where\nyou manage to get your facts wrong about the fatwa and Khomeini's \nsupposed infallibility.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":".. \n\n\nOne thing to recall.  Putting a satellite as high as possible is one thing. \nComing back to not only that altitude, but matching the position of it in \nits orbit on a subsequent mission is another thing.  Any misalignment of the \nplane of the orbit during launch or being ahead or behind the target will \nrequire more fuel to adjust.  This was considered in the original deployment. \n\nI agree though that the demands on the crew and complexity are stupendous.  \nOne has to admire how much they are trying to do. ","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n       The classic comment on new encryption algorithms comes from\nFriedman:\n\n\t\"No new cypher is worth considering unless it comes \n\tfrom someone who has already broken a very hard one.\"\n\nHistorically, Friedman has been right.  It's really hard to develop\na good cypher.  IBM's Lucifer, the precursor to DES, turns out to have\nbeen fatally flawed.  Most of the DES-like systems other than DES seem\nto be vulnerable to differential cryptanalysis.  The first two tries at\npublic key encryption (remember knapsack cyphers?) were broken.  Most\nif not all of the machine cyphers of the electromechanical era were\nbroken eventually.  Attempts in the computer era to home-brew encryption\nhave been disappointing; the classic \"A survey of data insecurity packages\"\nin Cryptologia contains analyses and breaking techniques for a few of the\npopular \"security packages\" of the late 1980s.\n\n        A new, proprietary algorithm?  No way.\n\n        If the US is permitting general export of this thing, it has\nto be weak; that's how the current regulations work.  Currently there's\na willingness to allow systems with short keys (32 bits appears to be\nno problem; the 56 bits of DES are too many) or weak algorithms\n(I think Word Perfect qualifies under that rule) to be exported.\nI can't believe these guys shepherded their technique through the \nPTO and the State Department's Arms Control Division without finding that out.\n\n\t\t\t\t\tJohn Nagle","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\u0002ubject: subscrive\n\n\nplease subscribe me.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"fc> Modern, \nfc> ground-based, visible light astronomy (what these proposed\nfc> orbiting billboards would upset) is already a dying field: The\nfc> opacity and distortions caused by the atmosphere itself have\nfc> driven most of the field to use radio, far infrared or space-based\nfc> telescopes. \n\n Here's one radio astronomer quite concerned about \n radio-frequency interference from portable telephones, etc.\n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Can the Sabres win two more games against the Bruins?\n\nI think game three in Buffalo will be the most important of the\nseries.  If the Sabres lose that game, the party will be over.  It will \nbe hello next year.\n\nThe key for the remaining games in the series will be whether Fuhr can\nkeep up his brillliant goaltending and if Mogilny can continue skate by \nthe Bruins.  He has shown demonstrated excellent speed.\n\nFinally, the Sabres appear to have shown up for the post season.\n\n\n\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"This is to followup my previous reply on this topic, which it has been\npointed out to me might have been dangerously misleading in two spots.\n\n1.  I stated that psychotherapy (meaning talking therapy and so on) was used \n    to treat Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, which though sometimes true is \n    misleading.  It is not often found effective, particularly by itself.\n    Primary treatment today usually consists at least in part of drug\n    therapy.  The most current theories of this condition attribute \n    it to more to biological causes than psychological, in places where this\n    distinction becomes important.\n\n2.  I mentioned that the DSM-IIIR mentions 'impulses' as a possible \n\tdiagnostic marker.  However, this might look like something\n\tpeople associate with psychotic conditions, uncontrollable or\n\tunpredictable behaviors, which is NOT the case with OCD.  \n\tOne of the diagnostic criteria of OCD is that the individual\n\tcan and does suppress some of their 'impulses,' although they\n\tare an unending source of anxiety.  \n\tThe obsessive thoughts and ritualistic actions usually associated with \n\tOCD are most frequently very mundane and predictable, closer to\n\ta superstitious nature than a dangerous nature for the most part.\n\n\tSome references (one non-technical and several technical)\n\tthat someone was kind enough to supply for me\n\tbut was unable to post themself :\n\n\n\t(technical refs) :\n\n\n\n\n\n\tAnd thanks very much to those who supplied constructive  \n\tcriticism to my first post on OCD.  I hope this helps clarify\n\tthe parts that were misleading.\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\tkind regards,","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nIs this an arguement against or for?  Or simply a statement of agreeance\/\ndisagreeance.  The fact that there are more homosexuals in prison does not\nmean that homosexuals are immoral and more liable to commit crime.  And one\nmust remember that prison is not necessarily a reflection of the type of\npeople who are criminals.  What are the statistics for unsolved crime?\n\n\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n...\n\n\nYes, that is what it sounds like to me, too. But before I spend\nda bucks, I want to make sure I'm right. I do have e-mail from\na (self-confessed :-) Apple-hater listing a few common problems\nwith the C610, but nothing I can't get fixed under warranty.\n\nSo, anybody else? Great or lousy?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nWrong, it has a 6507.\n\n\nIt had one custome chip (not an ASIC in the sense that word is now understood):\nthe TIA (sometimes known as the 6526, although most other manufacturers list\nthat as the CIA complex interface adapter.)  TIA stands for Television\nInterface Adapter, and it handles sound, paddles and the minimal video hardware\nthe 2600 possessed.\n\nThere was also a standard 6532 RAM, I\/O, Timer (RIOT), plus a voltage\nregulator and (if memory serves) a 555 timer.  That's all.\n\n\nNot according to the servicing documentation I have here.  The 2600 did not\nchange intenally very much at all.\n\n\nROMS were mapped into the upper 4K of the 6507's address space.  2K and 4K\ngames were fine, but later 8K and 16K games needed bank switching.  Atari\n(and others) made much of these \"huge\" cartridges.\n\n\nWrong, it had 128 bytes of RAM from the RIOT.  This was multiply mapped into\nboth page 0 (pseudo-registers) and page 1 (stack), and also throughout the\nbottom 4K of memory.  TIA registers also sat in this address space.\n\nAs 128 bytes of RAM was somewhat limiting, some later cartridges also carried\nRAM themselves, which was interesting as Atari had provided no write line\nto the cart.  This was managed by mapping the reads from RAM into one address\nthe *very* scarce ROM address space.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nWell, it's not that simple -- you're in Earth's magnetic field, and you\ndon't generate electricity -- but it can be done.\n\n\nThe way you power things is with electricity, so the answer to the first\nquestion is definitely yes.  (If you meant to say \"propel\" rather than\n\"power\", the answer is \"sort of\".)  Yes, you can use interaction with the\nEarth's magnetic field to get electrical power, and there are potential\napplications for this.\n\nHowever, bear in mind that there is no free lunch.  The energy isn't\ncoming from nowhere.  What such systems do is convert some of the energy\nof your orbital velocity into electrical energy.  There are cases where\nthis is a useful tradeoff.  Using power obtained in this way for propulsion\nis useful only in special situations, however.\n\nWhat you *can* do is get your power by some other means, e.g. solar arrays,\nand run the interaction with the magnetic field in reverse, pumping energy\n*into* the orbit rather than taking energy out of it.\n\nIf you want more information, trying looking up \"electrodynamic propulsion\",\n\"tether applications\", and \"magsails\".\n\n\nNo.  A \"dragless\" satellite does not magically have no drag; it burns fuel\nconstantly to fight drag, maintaining the exact orbit it would have *if*\nthere was no drag.  This is why there are quotes around \"dragless\".","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\n\nI just sent a mail to Turgut Kalfaoglu (sp?), the maintainer of the list,\nand asked him what's going on. If the list is (for whatever reason) really\ndead, we might have to put up a list ourselves. But for now, I want to wait\nfor his answer.\n\nFrank","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n[stuff deleted]\n\nActually, you get a ton of weapons and ammunition, 70-80 followers, and hole\nup in some kind of compound, and wait for . . . . :-)","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I know its semantics, but the \"no-op\" _doesn't_ do anything.  The\nCommand Loss Timer is simply looking for a command, any command.  A\n\"no-op\" is simply a spacecraft command that drops bits into the big\nbit bucket in the sky.  \"No-op\" also get used as timekeepers to provide\nmillisecond delays between command sequences (used on the thruster preps\non GRO, er, Compton) and to verify command links at the beginning of\nTDRS events.  All in all, a rather useful command.  And, an intelligent\nFDC test on Galileo (the Command Loss Timer).","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\tNo one is forced to blow up airplanes.  Terrorism is a choice\nmade by people because they do not want to work for peace.\n\n\n\tThere are *lots* of military targets in Israel.  There are\nlots of legitamate targets in Israel.  Old ladies, children, and\ncivilians in general are not acceptable targets.\n\n\tIf the only person you can kill is a civilian, you hold your\nfire.  If that means you can't kill anyone, then you can't kill\nanyone.  Claiming that civilain targets are acceptable because they\nare easy kills is rediculous.\n\n\n\tDid they make a policy of it?\n\n\n\tDid you mean excuse? :)  Killing a soldier and killing a\ncivilian are two very different acts.\n\n\n\tNo, they killed soldiers so that the British government would\nleave.  The objective was not to scare civilains, but show that the cost\nof staying was way too high.  \n\n\tIn contrast, a terrorist kills civilains to scare other\ncivilains.  They use random violence against people to make a point\nthat no one is safe until their demands are met.  An analogy would be\nthe Irgun blowing up Harrods or 10 Downing.\n\n\n\tThats because you missed the essential point of arab\nterrorism, which is to scare civilains away from Israel, by killing\nthose who have something to do with Israel.  It is to kill Jews\nbecause they might be Zionists.  It is to kill people who live in\nIsrael because of where they live.  The targets are rarely soldiers,\nor other people who understand they might be attacked in the line of\nduty, but innocent civilians, to underscore the message that no one\nwho deals with Israel is safe.\n\n\n\tOh, you mean you favor the Israelis, outnumbered 2 to 1,\noutgunned, surrounded by hostile states only one of which has signed a\npeace treaty in 45 years?  You favor the Jews, people like Leon\nKlofhinger, a cripple who was thrown off a boat because he was Jewish?\nYou support the right of the Jewish people to live in peace?\n\n\tWhy, thank you for your support.\n\nAdam\n\nAdam Shostack \t\t\t\t       adam@das.harvard.edu","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThis thread si starting to get really silly. Such nonsense do not\nbelong in s.r.c and it really hurts me to read some of the posts on\nthis issue.\n\nWe chose to believe whetever we want, but we are not allowed to define\nour own Christianity. we see in parts. If you see something that I do\nnot see, or vice versa, it does not give me the right to play jokes on\nyour belief!\n\nThere is no wonder that your \"miracle\" does not work. You designet it\nyourself, and even if you were able to collect a group of people like\nthe one you describe, I see no reason why your \"miracle\" should really\nhappen. God is the one who does miracles, not humans!\n\nAfter all we are all on the same way, or at least, we are all headed\nfor the same goal, following different paths. Remember that we are\ngoing to spend eternity together. If I can not stand your view here on\nearth, how can I possibly stand spending eternity together with you?\n\nTongues is a question of belief. Not wether you believe in Jesus, but\nif you believe that He is able to give you this gift. Just as any\nother of the gifts mentioned in the Bible. But there is no evidence in\nthe Bible that people who do not accept these gifts are in any way\nbetter than others.\n\n\nMaybe some of the people who have received spiritual gifts are more\ninterested in glorifying themselves than glorifying God, I don't know.\nBut if this is the case, it still does not suggest that the gifts are\nfaked.\n\nIn the Bible you will find that Jesus did not always do miracles. He\nsaid that \"I do nothing, except what my father tells me.\" Perhaps it\nwoulkd be for the best of all if we where all able to live by that\nexample!\n\nIn Him,\nBjorn","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"One way Omaha to Seattle\nticket in my name [Jessamyn West]\nfor travel 5\/9. Must be picked up at Omaha airport [or thereabouts]\non 5\/6. Continental Airlines. Make me an offer.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nThe clutch on my '92 Honda Civic EX-V (EX in the U.S.) does this too.\nIt's annoying.  Now that I think about, it _is_ worse when the humidity is\nhigh.  The dealer also claims there's nothing they can do since the clutch is \na \"self-adjusting hydraulic design\".  Yeah, right.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nTrue enough, but...\n\n\nZilog SCC:\n---------\n\tRR0[7]:  Break Detect\n\nThis is a very popular part, but it has a number of quirks, especially\nin HDLC mode.\n\nSignetics 68562 DUSCC:\n---------------------\n\tRSR[2]:  Break Start Detect\n\tRSR[3]:  Break End Detect\n\nTwo of the bits in the Receiver Status Register.  You can enable an interrupt\non either of these bits going high, too.  Also, only one NULL will be put\nin the FIFO per break detected.\n\nThis is simply the best serial chip I've ever worked with.  _Many_ less\nquirks than the SCC, which is IMHO second-best.  (Death to 8250 devices!)\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Like many others I too was watching the Caps\/Isles game when the went\nto the baseball game.  I too was pissed.  How could they interupt such\nan important game.  I understand about contracts, but you would think they\nwould have a clause in the contract concerning important games!\nAnyway,  us BLUES (and Hawks) fans got shafted worse!  While everyone\nin the U.S. and watched the game on ABC.  However those of us who live in\nthe central Illinois area were subjected to watching the Arthritus(?)\nTelethon.  The area that was most affected by the telecast did not get\nto see the game except through HAWK VISION.  This game, had it been\ntelevised, would have been the first home Hawks game shown in the area\nsince 1980.  This television BULL*&%$ has got to stop.  We are not only\nbeing deprived of seeing games, due to skyrocketing ticket prices, but\nwe are also being deprived of watching them on TV.\n PEACE,\n HAMMER\n \n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":":>Steve,  you're the one who suggested that a failed government should be an \n:>ideal proving ground,  I never felt that way in the first place.  Quite the \n:>contrary,  I think a better proving ground would be someplace that already\n:>had a governemnt that would prevent outright acts of agression,  yet had a\n:>strong spirit of individualism and initiative.  Someplace like... Texas :-)\n:>\n:>Mr. Grinch  \n: \n:\n: \n:And while Texas taxpayers might willingly eliminate tax-support for UT\n:and TAMU, I'm not sure they'd support gutting the football programs.\n:\nFootball can pay for itself.\n\n\n:Then there's the impact on Ross Perot's fortune of eliminating the various\n\nWhy?  He's already made it.  Sure nodoby else will be able to bilk\nthe public in the same specific ways,  but why should he (or I) care?\n\n\n:All in all, Texas doesn't seem to be a very likely place for\n:libertarianism to take hold. :-)\nMore likely than most places.  When I was there the most \"important\" \nstate issue was whether to have a state income tax or instead legalize\na popular vice for fund raising,  and vice won a decisive victory!\n\n\nMr. Grinch","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I'm posting this for a friend, but you can e-mail questions to me at\ngyeh@cc.bellcore.com  However, the best way to get your questions answered\nis to call the phone number listed.\n\nFOR SALE:\n\n1991 Volkswagon Corrado\n\n\t2+2 coupe\n\tLow mileage: approx. 28,000 miles\n\t5-speed manual\n\t7 speaker factory Blaupunkt stereo system\n\tNew all-weather Yokohamas 205\/50VR15\n\tSun roof\n\tAC\n\tRed\n\tSpeed activated spoiler\n\tExtra set of tires - Pirelli P600 195VR15\n\n\t** Equipped with factory Winter package - heated seats, \n           mirrors and nozzles.\n\n\t** Alpine security system with 2 remotes.\n\n\tAll records - documentation, service\n\tPampered car, mint condition\n\n\tMust sacrifice at $11,000 or best offer.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Hi all,\n\n\tI got tired of waiting for a mailing list so I am going to make one....\njust send me your complete e-mail address on your message and I'll send\nyou a confirmation and the Yankee mailing list address\n\n-john","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Dear news readers,\n\nIs there anyone using sheep models for cardiac research, specifically\nconcerned with arrhythmias, pacing or defibrillation? I would like\nto hear from you.\n\nMany thanks,\nAndrew Mears","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Some years ago -- possibly as many as five -- there was a discussion on\nnumerology.  (That's where you assign numeric values to letters and then add\nup the letters in words, in an effort to prove something or another.  I can\nnever make any sense of how it's supposed to work or what it's supposed to\nprove.)\n\nSomebody posted a long article about numerology in the Bible, saying\nthings like \"this proves the intricate planning of the Scriptures, else\nthese patterns would not appear\".\n\nThen there was a brilliant followup, which was about numerology in all the\nother numerology posts.  Stuff like \"The word `numerology' adds up to 28,\nand the word appears 28 times in the posting!  Such elegant planning!\nFurther, the word `truth' ALSO adds up to 28; the writer is using these\nnumerological clues to show us that we reach truth via numerology!\"\n(These examples are made up by me just as examples.)\n\nI really liked that reply, because it did such an excellent job of showing\nthat these patterns can be found in just about anything.  However, I did\nnot save a copy of it.  I do not remember the author.  I'm only 90% sure\nthat it was posted to this newsgroup.\n\nBUT, on the off chance that somebody remembers it and saved it, or that the\nauthor is reading here, I wanted to know if anyone could send me a copy.  (I\nthink it should be made into an FAQ, if we can find it.)\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"------------- cut here -----------------\ncall for employers to keep  information about the HIV status of health-care \nworkers  confidential.  But doctors who know of an HIV-positive colleague  who \nhas not sought advice must inform the employing authority and the appropriate \nprofessional regulatory body.  The guidelines  also emphasize the significance \nof notifying all patients on whom an invasive procedure has been done by an \ninfected health-care  worker.  A model letter to patients who have come into \ncontact  with such an individual is provided, along with suggestions for  \nhealth officials on how to deal with the media.  In addition, a  U.K. advisory \npanel on HIV infection in health-care workers has  been formed to provide \nspecific occupational recommendations to  those treating such patients. \n==================================================================    \n\"Properties of an HIV 'Vaccine'\" Nature (04\/08\/93) Vol. 362, No. 6420, P. 504   \n(Volvovitz, Franklin and Smith, Gale) \n\n     The questions raised by Moore et al. about recombinant gp160  envelope \nglycoprotein precursor from HIV-1 produced by  MicroGeneSys are advantages \nrather than disadvantages, write  Franklin Volvovitz and Gale Smith of \nMicroGeneSys in Meriden,  Conn.  Moore et al. says that gp160 in a baculovirus \nexpression  system does not bind strongly to the CD4 receptor, and that this  \nrecombinant gp160 does not stimulate the same antibodies as the  HIV-1 virus \ndoes in natural infection.  But vaccination with  recombinant gp160 in \npatients infected with HIV-1 broadens HIV-1  specific envelope-directed immune \nresponses, including  crossreactive antibodies to gp160 epitopes and CD4 and \nCD8  cytotoxic T-cell responses.  Volvovitz and Smith claim that they  never \nintended their gp160 molecule to be identical to the native protein.  Antibody \nresponses against native HIV-1 proteins,  including the types described by \nMoore et al., exist in nearly  all AIDS patients but do not prevent \n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 42\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\nprogression of HIV disease.  In addition, the binding of gp120 or gp120-\nantibody complexes to  CD4 has been shown to interfere with antigen specific \nactivation  of CD4 cells and trigger programmed cell death in vitro, which  \nmay contribute to the pathogenesis of HIV infection.  The absence of CD4 \nbinding by the MicroGeneSys gp160 vaccine may therefore be viewed as an added \nsafety feature.  Phase I studies have  demonstrated stable CD4 counts, \nstimulation of cytotoxic T cells, and the suggestion of restoration of immune \nfunction.  Based on  these and other clinical results, MicroGeneSys gp160 was \nchosen  by researchers at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden for the  first \nphase III vaccine therapy studies, conclude Volvovitz and  Smith. \n==================================================================    \n\"HIV-1 Infection: Breast Milk and HIV-1 Transmission\" Lancet (04\/10\/93) Vol. \n341, No. 8850, P. 930  (Mok, Jacqueline) \n\n     There are still more questions than answers regarding  HIV-1-positive \nwomen breastfeeding their babies, writes  Jacqueline Mok of the Lancet.  The \nanti-infective properties of  milk are well documented.  While the numbers of \nleukocytes,  concentrations of lactoferrin and IgA, and lymphocyte mitogenic  \nactivity decline sharply during the first two to three months of  lactation to \nbarely detectable levels, lactoferrin and IgA then  increase from three to \ntwelve months, with 90 percent of total  IgA in milk being secretory IgA.  \nBreastfeeding protects infants  against gastrointestinal and respiratory \nillnesses, in both  normal and uninfected children born to HIV-positive \nmothers.  The Italian National Registry of AIDS discovered that breastfed HIV-\n1 infected children had a longer median incubation time (19 months) than \nbottlefed infants (9.7 months).  Breastfed children also had a slower \nprogression to AIDS.  There is no agreement on which  antibodies offer \nprotection against HIV-1 infection.  Studies of  the biological properties of \nmilk from 15 HIV-1 infected women  showed the presence of IgG and IgA \nantibodies against envelope  glycoproteins, as well as IgA antibodies against \ncore antigens.   Binding of HIV-1 to the CD4 receptor can be inhibited by a \nhuman  milk factor.  In the developing world, where infectious disease  and \nmalnutrition contribute significantly to infant mortality,  breast milk is \nstill the best food for infants, regardless of the mother's HIV status.  \nTransmission might be restricted by  breastfeeding after colostrum and early \nmilk have been expressed  and discarded.  The possibility remains that breast \nmilk could  protect the infant who is already infected with HIV at birth and  \nmay even delay progression to AIDS, concludes Mok. \n==================================================================    \n\"Absence of HIV Transmission From an Infected Dentist to His Patients\" Journal \nof the American Medical Association (04\/14\/93) Vol. 269,  No. 14, P. 1802  \n(Dickinson, Gordon M. et al.) \n\n     If universal precautions are practiced, the risk of HIV  transmission \nfrom dentist to patient appears to be infinitesimal, write Gordon M. Dickinson \n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 43\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\net al. of the University of Miami  School of Medicine in Miami, Fla.  The \nresearchers contacted all  patients treated by a dentist with AIDS and \nattempts were made to contact all patients for HIV testing.  Living patients \nwith newly detected HIV infection were interviewed, and DNA sequence  analysis \nwas performed to compare genetic relatedness of their  HIV to that of the \ndentist.  Death certificates were obtained for deceased patients, and the \nmedical records of those with  diagnoses suggestive of HIV disease or drug \nabuse and those dying under the age of 50 years were examined in detail.  \nThere were  1,192 patients who had undergone 9,267 procedures, of whom 124  \nwere deceased.  An examination of the death certificates of  patients \nidentified five who had died with HIV infection, all of  whom were either \nhomosexuals or IV-drug users.  The researchers  were able to detect 962 of the \nremaining 1,048 patients, and 900  agreed to be tested.  HIV infection was \nreported in five of the  900 patients, including four who had clear evidence \nof risk  factors for the disease.  One patient who had only a single  \nevaluation by the dentist denied high-risk behavior.  Comparative DNA sequence \nanalysis showed that the viruses from the dentists  and these five patients \nwere not closely related.  The study  suggests the potential for HIV \ntransmission from a general  dentist to his patients is minimal in a setting \nin which  universal precautions are strictly observed, conclude Dickinson  et \nal. \n       ================================================================   \n                                April 22, 1993 \n       ================================================================   \n\"AIDS Patients are Susceptible to Recurrences of TB, Study Says\" Washington \nPost (04\/22\/93), P. A13 \n\n     Tuberculosis can strike AIDS patients more than once, which makes the \nresurging health hazard harder to control, according to a  study published in \ntoday's New England Journal of Medicine.   People who contract TB usually \ndevelop an immunity that protects  them if they are exposed to the bacteria \nagain.  But a person  whose immune system is depleted may not be able to fight \noff a  new TB infection, doctors found.  Peter M. Small of the Howard  Hughes \nMedical Institute at Stanford University, director of the  study, said that in \norder to protect against reinfection, it may  be necessary for some people to \nuse TB medicines permanently.   The study examined the genetic makeup of TB \nbacteria and how the  germs changed over time in 17 patients at Kings County \nHospital  in New York. \n================================================================    \n\"HIV-1 Infection: Breast Milk and HIV-1 Transmission\" Lancet (04\/10\/93) Vol. \n341, No. 8850, P. 930  (Mok, Jacqueline) \n\n     There are still more questions than answers regarding  HIV-1-positive \nwomen breastfeeding their babies, writes  Jacqueline Mok of the Lancet.  The \nanti-infective properties of  milk are well documented.  While the numbers of \n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 44\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\nleukocytes,  concentrations of lactoferrin and IgA, and lymphocyte mitogenic  \nactivity decline sharply during the first two to three months of  lactation to \nbarely detectable levels, lactoferrin and IgA then  increase from three to \ntwelve months, with 90 percent of total  IgA in milk being secretory IgA.  \nBreastfeeding protects infants  against gastrointestinal and respiratory \nillnesses, in both  normal and uninfected children born to HIV-positive \nmothers.  The Italian National Registry of AIDS discovered that breastfed HIV-\n1 infected children had a longer median incubation time (19 months) than \nbottlefed infants (9.7 months).  Breastfed children also had a slower \nprogression to AIDS.  There is no agreement on which  antibodies offer \nprotection against HIV-1 infection.  Studies of  the biological properties of \nmilk from 15 HIV-1 infected women  showed the presence of IgG and IgA \nantibodies against envelope  glycoproteins, as well as IgA antibodies against \ncore antigens.   Binding of HIV-1 to the CD4 receptor can be inhibited by a \nhuman  milk factor.  In the developing world, where infectious disease  and \nmalnutrition contribute significantly to infant mortality,  breast milk is \nstill the best food for infants, regardless of the mother's HIV status.  \nTransmission might be restricted by  breastfeeding after colostrum and early \nmilk have been expressed  and discarded.  The possibility remains that breast \nmilk could  protect the infant who is already infected with HIV at birth and  \nmay even delay progression to AIDS, concludes Mok. \n================================================================   \n\"HIV and the Aetiology of AIDS\" Lancet (04\/10\/93) Vol. 341, No. 8850, P. 957  \n(Duesberg, Peter) \n\n     Because there is no proof that HIV is the cause of AIDS, the  hypothesis \nthat drug use leads to AIDS will hopefully become a  hindrance to the \nphysiologically (AZT) and psychologically  (positive AIDS test) toxic public \nhealth initiatives, writes  Peter Duesberg of the University of California--\nBerkeley.  In the Lancet's March 13 issue, Schechter et al. call Duesberg's  \nhypothesis that injected and orally used recreational drugs and  AZT lead to \nAIDS, \"a hindrance to public health initiatives.\"   However, their hypothesis \nthat HIV is the cause of AIDS has not  attained any public health benefits.  \nThe U.S. government spends  $4 billion annually, but no vaccine, no therapy, \nno prevention,  and no AIDS control have resulted from work on this \nhypothesis.   Schechter et al. conclude that HIV has a key role in CD4  \ndepletion and AIDS based on epidemiological correlations with  antibodies \nagainst HIV and with self reported recreational drug  use among homosexuals \nfrom Vancouver.  However, their survey  neglects to disprove Duesberg's drug-\nAIDS hypothesis, because it  does not provide controls--i.e., confirmed drug-\nfree AIDS  cases--and because it does not quantify drug use and ignores AZT  \nuse altogether.  To refute Duesberg's hypothesis Schechter would  have to \nproduce a controlled study demonstrating that over a  period of up to 10 years \nHIV-positive patients who use  recreational drugs or AZT or both have the same \nAIDS risks as  positives who do not do so.  The 10 year period is claimed by  \n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 45\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\nproponents of the HIV hypothesis to be the time needed for HIV to cause AIDS.  \nAlternatively, they could show that HIV-free  individuals who have used drugs \nfor 10 years never get  AIDS-defining illnesses, concludes Duesberg. \n================================================================   \n\"Rapid Decline of CD4+ Cells After IFNa Treatment in HIV-1  Infection\" \nLancet (04\/10\/93) Vol. 341, No. 8850, P. 959   (Vento, Sandro et al.) \n\n     Interferon (IFN), which induces autoantibodies and autoimmune  diseases \nin some settings, may hasten CD4 T-cell loss in some  HIV-1 infected \nindividuals through the amplification of harmful  \"autoimmune\" reactions, \nwrite Sandro Vento et al. of the A.  Pugliese Hospital in Catanzaro, Italy.  \nThe researchers report  three asymptomatic HIV-1 infected individuals with \nhepatitis C  Virus related chronic active hepatitis (CAH) who had a rapid,  \nprofound decline of CD4 cells after IFN.  All three patients  throughout the \nobservation were consistently negative for serum  HIV p24 antigen and had \ncirculating antibodies to p24.  Sera from all three patients, obtained at the \nend of IFN treatment and  testing in enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay, \ncontained high  titres of antibodies reacting to a sequence located in the  \naminoterminal of the beta chain of all human HLA class II  antigens, \nhomologous to a sequence located in the carboxy  terminus of HIV-1 gp41.  \nThese autoantibodies, which also  recognize \"native\" class II molecules and \nmay contribute to the  elimination of CD4 T cells \"in vivo\", were at low tires \n(50-100)  in all three patients six months after stopping IFN.  Such  \nautoantibodies were not detected in 28 other patients with HIV  infection and \nHCV related CAH treated with IFN and who did not  experience CD4 T-cell loss \nin some HIV-1 infected individuals  through the amplification of harmful \n\"autoimmune\" reactions.  The subjects had A1; B8; DR3; and B35, DR1 HLA \nantigen combinations  which are linked with a more rapid fall in CD4 cell \ncounts and  clinical progression of HIV-1 disease.  IFN can induce a very  \nrapid decline of CD4 cells and should be used cautiously in  patients with \nthese HLA haplotypes, the researchers conclude. \n       ================================================================   \n                                April 23, 1993 \n       ================================================================    \n\"TB Makes a Comeback\" State Government News (04\/93) Vol. 36, No. 4, P. 6   \n(Voit, William and Knapp, Elaine S.) \n\n     Although tuberculosis was once believed to be eliminated in the  United \nStates, it is emerging again among the homeless, AIDS  patients, immigrants, \nminorities, and prisoners.  Dr. Lee B.  Reichman, professor of medicine at the \nUniversity of New Jersey  Medical School and president of the American Lung \nAssociation,  said, \"Right now, it's a big city problem, but potentially it's  \neveryone's problem.\"  The ALA predicts that 10 million Americans  are infected \nwith TB, and about 10 percent of them will develop  the disease because their \nimmune systems are depressed,  especially those with AIDS or HIV.  Gene \n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 46\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\nTammes, a Centers for  Disease Control expert, said that is why the CDC has \nissued  guidelines warning hospitals and institutions not to mix AIDS  with TB \npatients.  State health officials believe the TB is also  spreading because \nthose who are most susceptible are the least  likely to follow through with \ntreatment.  In addition, the  increase is attributed to a shortage of public \nhealth services.   In New York City, TB is an epidemic \"because the number of \ncases  is increasing faster than we can treat people,\" said Dr. George  \nDiferdinando, director of the New York State TB Control.   According to \nDiferdinando, curbing the spread of TB entails  keeping 85 percent or more of \ndiagnosed TB cases in treatment.   About 40 percent of infected New York City \nresidents don't  complete therapy.  When TB patients don't finish taking their  \nmedication, multi-drug resistant TB can develop, which requires  taking more \nexpensive drugs and can take two years instead of the normal six months to \ntreat.\n ================================================================    \n \"Increasing Frequency of Heterosexually Transmitted AIDS in  Southern \nFlorida: Artifact or Reality?\" American Journal of Public Health (04\/93) Vol. \n83, No. 4, P. 571  (Nwanyanwu, Okey C. et al.) \n\n     The alarmingly high rate of heterosexually acquired AIDS cases in \nsouthern Florida was partially related to misclassification of  risk, write \nOkey C. Nwanyanwu et al. of the Centers for Disease  Control in Atlanta, Ga.  \nThe researchers investigated 168 such  AIDS cases from Broward and coastal \nPalm Beach counties.  All of  these cases attributed to heterosexual \ntransmission reported  sexual contact with bisexual men, injecting drug users, \nor  persons born in countries where heterosexual contact is the  primary route \nof HIV transmission.  Medical records of patients,  in addition to records \nfrom social services, HIV counseling and  testing centers, and sexually \ntransmitted disease (STD) clinics  were reviewed.  If no other HIV risk factor \nwas found from  medical record review, patients were interviewed using a  \nstandardized questionnaire.  Once STD clinic and other medical  records were \nreviewed, 29 men and 7 women were reclassified into  other HIV transmission \ncategories.  After adjustments were made  for the reclassification, the \npercentage of AIDS cases reported  from Palm Beach and Broward counties \nbetween January 1, 1989, and March 31, 1990, that was attributed to \nheterosexual transmission  decreased from 10 percent to 6 percent among men \nand from 33  percent to 28 percent among women.  While the percentage of  \nheterosexually transmitted AIDS cases in southern Florida  decreased after \nadjustment was made for reclassified cases, it  still remained above the \nnational average, the researchers  conclude.\n\n\n\n\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 47\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n\n\n::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::\n                                AIDS Statistics\n::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::\n\n                            World Health Organization, Geneva\n                        Organisation mondiale de la Sante, Geneve\n\n                              WEEKLY EPIDEMIOLOGICAL RECORD\n                           RELEVE EPIDEMIOLOGIQUE HEBDOMADAIRE\n\n15 January 1993 - 68th Year\n\n                        ACQUIRED IMMUNODEFICIENCY SYNDROME (AIDS)\n                               DATA AS AT 31 December 1992\n\n                       SYNDROME D'IMMUNODEFICIENCE ACQUISE (SIDA)\n                               DONNEES AU 31 Decembre 1992\n\n                                           NUMBER                 DATE OF\n                                         OF CASES                 REPORT\nCOUNTRY\/AREA -                             NOMBRE                 DATE\n        PAYS\/TERRITOIRE                    DE CAS                 DE\n                                                                  NOTIFI-\n                                                                  CATION\nAFRICA - AFRIQUE\n\nAlgeria - Algerie                              92                 31.08.91\nAngola                                        514                 24.09.92\nBenin - Benin                                 247                 31.03.92\nBotswana                                      353                 30.06.92\nBurkina Faso                                1,263                 20.03.92\nBurundi                                     6,052                 20.03.92\nCameroon - Cameroun                         1,407                 05.10.92\nCape Verde - Cap-Vert                          52                 08.02.92\nCentral African Republic -\n        Republique centrafricaine           1,864                 20.03.92\nChad - Tchad                                  382                 17.09.92\nComoros - Comores                               3                 11.03.92\nCongo                                       3,482                 30.01.92\nCote d'Ivoire                              10,792                 09.03.92\nDjibouti                                      265                 17.12.92\nEgypt - Egypte                                 57                 17.12.92\nEquatorial Guinea - \n        Guinee equatoriale                     13                 16.05.92\nEthiopia - Ethiopie                         3,978                 11.11.92\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 48\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\nGabon                                         215                 31.05.92\nGambia - Gambie                               180                 25.02.92\nGhana                                       3,612                 01.07.92\nGuinea - Guinee                               338                 20.03.92\nGuinea-Bissau - Guinee-Bissau                 189                 13.07.92\nKenya                                      31,185                 01.10.92\nLesotho                                        64                 31.03.92\nLiberia - Liberia                              28                 31.03.92\nLibyan Arab Jamahiriya -\n        Jamahiriya arabe libyenne               7                 17.12.92\nMadagascar                                      2                 06.11.92\nMalawi                                     22,300                 02.12.92\nMali                                        1,111                 17.07.92\nMauritania - Mauritanie                        36                 19.07.92\nMauritius - Maurice                            11                 29.02.92\nMorocco - Maroc                               121                 17.12.92\nMozambique                                    538                 10.10.92\nNamibia - Namibie                             311                 20.03.92\nNiger                                         497                 07.02.92\nNigeria - Nigeria                             184                 12.03.92\nReunion - Reunion                              65                 20.03.92\nRwanda                                      8,483                 12.11.92\nSao Tome and Principe -\n        Sao Tome-et-Principe                   11                 03.07.92\nSenegal - Senegal                             648                 09.03.92\nSeychelles                                    ---                 18.02.92\nSierra Leone                                   40                 20.03.92\nSomalia - Somalie                              13                 17.12.92\nSouth Africa - \n        Afrique du Sud                      1,316                 30.06.92\nSudan - Soudan                                650                 17.12.92\nSwaziland                                     197                 08.07.92\nTogo                                        1,278                 03.04.92\nTunisia - Tunisie                             114                 17.12.92\nUganda - Ouganda                           34,611                 01.11.92\nUnited Republic of Tanzania -\n        Republique-Unie de\n        Tanzanie                           34,605                 31.05.92\nZaire - Zaire                              18,186                 14.05.92\nZambia - Zambie                             6,556                 15.10.92\nZimbabwe                                   12,514                 31.03.92\n\nTOTAL                                     211,032\n\n\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 49\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\nAMERICAS - AMERIQUES\n\nAnguilla                                        6                 10.12.92\nAntigua and Barbuda - \n        Antigua-et-Barbuda                      6                 10.12.92\nArgentina - Argentine                       1,820                 10.12.92\nBahamas                                       934                 10.12.92\nBarbados - Barbade                            315                 10.12.92\nBelize                                         53                 10.12.92\nBermuda - Bermudes                            199                 10.12.92\nBolivia - Bolivie                              49                 10.12.92\nBrazil - Bresil                            31,364                 10.12.92\nBritish Virgin Islands -\n        Iles Vierges \n        britanniques                            4                 10.12.92\nCanada                                      6,889                 10.12.92\nCayman Islands - Iles Caimanes                 13                 10.12.92\nChile - Chili                                 573                 10.12.92\nColombia - Colombie                         2,957                 10.12.92\nCosta Rica                                    419                 10.12.92\nCuba                                          137                 10.12.92\nDominica - Dominique                           12                 10.12.92\nDominican Republic -\n        Republique dominicaine              1,809                 10.12.92\nEcuador - Equateur                            224                 10.12.92\nEl Salvador                                   382                 10.12.92\nFrench Guiana -\n        Guyane francaise                      232                 10.12.92\nGrenada - Grenade                              32                 10.12.92\nGuadeloupe                                    182                 10.12.92\nGuatemala                                     273                 10.12.92\nGuyana                                        333                 10.12.92\nHaiti - Haiti                               3,086                 10.12.92\nHonduras                                    1,976                 10.12.92\nJamaica - Jamaique                            361                 10.12.92\nMartinique                                    227                 10.12.92\nMexico - Mexique                           11,034                 10.12.92\nMontserrat                                      1                 10.12.92\nNetherlands Antilles and Aruba -\n        Antilles neerlandaises et\n        Aruba                                 110                 10.12.92\nNicaragua                                      31                 10.12.92\nPanama                                        388                 10.12.92\nParaguay                                       51                 10.12.92\nPeru - Perou                                  614                 10.12.92\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 50\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\nSaint Kitts and Nevis -\n        Saint-Kitts-et-Nevis                   37                 10.12.92\nSaint Lucia - Sainte-Lucie                     48                 10.12.92\nSaint Vincent and the\n        Grenadines - Saint-\n        Vincent-et-Grenadines                  41                 10.12.92\nSuriname                                      122                 10.12.92\nTrinidad and Tobago -\n        Trinite-et-Tobago                   1,085                 10.12.92\nTurks and Caicos Islands -\n        Iles Turques et\n        Caiques                                25                 10.12.92\nUnited States of America -\n        Etats-Unis d'Amerique             242,146                 10.12.92\nUruguay                                       310                 10.12.92\nVenezuela                                   2,173                 10.12.92\n\nTOTAL                                     313,083\n\n\nASIA - ASIE\n\nAfghanistan                                   ---                 17.12.92\nBahrain - Bahrein                               3                 31.03.92\nBangladesh                                      1                 30.11.92\nBhutan - Bhoutan                              ---                 30.11.92\nBrunei Darussalam - \n        Brunei Darussalam                       2                 19.12.91\nBurma see Myanmar -\n        Birmanie voir Myanmar\nCambodia - Cambodge                           ---                 31.10.92\nChina(a) - Chine(a)                            11                 28.04.92\nCyprus - Chypre                                24                 17.12.92\nDemocratic People's Republic\n        of Korea -  Republique\n        populaire democratique\n        de Coree                              ---                 30.11.92\nHong Kong                                      61                 26.09.92\nIndia - Inde                                  242                 30.11.92\nIndonesia - Indonesie                          24                 30.11.92\nIran (Islamic Republic of) -\n        Iran (Republique\n        islamique d')                          56                 17.12.92\nIraq                                            7                 17.12.92\nIsrael - Israel                               192                 17.12.92\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 51\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\nJapan - Japon                                 508                 04.12.92\nJordan - Jordanie                              24                 17.12.92\nKuwait - Koweit                                 7                 17.12.92\nLao People's Democratic Republic -\n        Republique democratique\n        populaire lao                           1                 23.04.92\nLebanon - Liban                                35                 17.12.92\nMacao                                           2                 03.11.92\nMalaysia - Malaisie                            46                 25.05.92\nMaldives                                      ---                 30.11.92\nMongolia - Mongolie                             1                 30.11.92\nMyanmar                                        16                 30.11.92\nNepal - Nepal                                  12                 30.11.92\nOman                                           27                 17.12.92\nPakistan                                       25                 17.12.92\nPhilippines                                    80                 07.10.92\nQatar                                          31                 17.12.92\nRepublic of Korea -\n        Republique de Coree                    10                 19.11.92\nSaudi Arabia - Arabie saoudite                 46                 17.12.92\nSingapore - Singapour                          43                 05.08.92\nSri Lanka                                      20                 30.11.92\nSyrian Arab Republic - \n        Republique arabe syrienne              19                 17.12.92\nThailand - Thailande                          909                 30.11.92\nTurkey - Turquie                               89                 17.12.92\nUnited Arab Emirates - Emirats\n        arabes unis                             8                 17.12.92\nViet Nam                                      ---                 28.04.92\nYemen - Yemen                                 ---                 17.12.92\n\nTOTAL                                       2,582\n\n\n\nEUROPE\n\nAlbania - Albanie                             ---                 30.09.92\nAustria - Autriche                            828                 30.09.92\nBelarus - Belarus                               6                 30.09.92\nBelgium - Belgique                          1,224                 17.12.92\nBulgaria - Bulgarie                            16                 17.12.92\nCzechoslovakia - Tchecoslovaquie               32                 17.12.92\nDenmark - Danemark                          1,072                 17.12.92\nFinland - Finlande                            112                 17.12.92\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 52\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\nFrance                                     21,487                 17.12.92\nGermany - Allemagne                         8,893                 17.12.92\nGreece - Grece                                689                 17.12.92\nHungary - Hongrie                             105                 17.12.92\nIceland - Islande                              22                 17.12.92\nIreland - Irlande                             294                 17.12.92\nItaly - Italie                             14,783                 17.12.92\nLatvia - Lettonie                               2                 30.09.92\nLithuania - Lituanie                            2                 30.09.92\nLuxembourg                                     55                 17.12.92\nMalta - Malte                                  25                 17.12.92\nMonaco                                          9                 17.12.92\nNetherlands - Pays-Bas                      2,330                 17.12.92\nNorway - Norvege                              283                 17.12.92\nPoland - Pologne                              118                 17.12.92\nPortugal                                    1,007                 17.12.92\nRomania - Roumanie                          2,073                 17.12.92\nRussian Federation - Federation\n        de Russie                              94                 30.09.92\nSan Marino - Saint-Marin                        1                 17.12.92\nSpain - Espagne                            14,991                 17.12.92\nSweden - Suede                                743                 17.12.92\nSwitzerland - Suisse                        2,691                 17.12.92\nUnited Kingdom - Royaume-Uni                6,510                 17.12.92\nYugoslavia(b) - Yougoslavie(b)                313                 30.09.92\n\nTOTAL                                      80,810\n\n\n\nOCEANIA - OCEANIE\n\nAmerican Samoa - Samoa americaines            ---                 18.11.92\nAustralia - Australie                       3,615                 02.12.92\nCook Islands - Iles Cook                      ---                 18.02.92\nFederated States of Micronesia -\n        Etats federes de Micronesie             2                 01.09.92\nFiji - Fidji                                    4                 28.11.91\nFrench Polynesia - Polynesie francaise         27                 28.11.91\nGuam                                           10                 13.09.91\nKiribati                                      ---                 08.11.91\nMariana Islands - Iles Mariannes                4                 14.10.92\nMarshall Islands - Iles Marshall                2                 18.03.91\nNauru                                         ---                 17.12.92\nNew Caledonia and Dependencies -\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 53\nVolume  6, Number 11                                           April 25, 1993\n\n        Nouvelle-Caledonie et\n        dependances                            22                 26.08.92\nNew Zealand - Nouvelle-Zelande                348                 03.11.92\nNiue                                          ---                 18.02.92\nPalau                                         ---                 15.10.92\nPapua New Guinea - Papouasie-\n        Nouvelle-Guinee                        45                 10.08.92\nSamoa                                           1                 18.02.92\nSolomon Islands - Iles Salomon                ---                 19.12.91\nTokelau                                       ---                 18.02.92\nTonga                                           2                 24.07.92\nTuvalu                                        ---                 22.11.92\nVanuatu                                       ---                 08.06.92\nWallis and Futuna Islands - Iles\n        Wallis et Futuna                      ---                 27.05.91\n\nTOTAL                                       4,082\n\n\nWORLD TOTAL - \n        TOTAL MONDIAL                     611,589\n\n(a) The above statistics relating to China do not include 48 cases of AIDS in\nthe Province of Taiwan. -- Les statistiques ci-dessus se rapportant a la Chine\nne comprennent pas 48 cas de SIDA dans la province de Taiwan.\n\n(b) Refers to Republics and areas of the former Socialist Federal Republic of\nYugoslavia:  Bosnia and Herzegovina; Croatia; Macedonia; Montenegro;\nSerbia; Slovenia. -- Se refere aux republiques et territoires de l'ancienne\nRepublique federative socialiste de Yougoslavie: Bosnie-Herzegovine; Croatie;\nMacedoine; Montenegro; Serbie; Slovenie.                                        \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nHICNet Medical Newsletter                                              Page 54\n------------- cut here -----------------\n-- This is the last part ---------------\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"BASEBALL.....ALWAYS\nhow he\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nbackupable, if restored to the same machine >>(depends>> on the\nprogrammer...  don't use a disk drive characteristic!) If the user >> did\nan upgrade to the machine, he\/she should reinstall all programs any way.\n\nhave been quite pissed at any software that would have forced me to\n\nOpinion is understandable.  :-)  I assume you have a tape drive?  Not all\nof us have about 200 floppies around for backup, you know.  \n\n4Mb >of RAM to their computer?  I did that a couple of weeks ago.  It's in\nthe >BIOS, and if software had told me \"this isn't the machine you\ninstalled me >on\" I would never have used that software again.  Really bad\nidea. \n\nRAM is something you add all the time, so no.  It's more like BIOS\nmanufacturer and\/or processor type (386\/486\/etc).  Data cannot be used,\nesp with these new Flash ROM BIOS machines with updates on a diskette.\n\nOn the other hand, to make this LESS intrusive it could be disguised as\n\"Please Insert Original Disk #XX as I need file YYYYYY for update\".  :-) \nIt would be perfectly reasonable...  Sort of.\n\nuser's >> conscience should do that. \n\ngive >them that.  Your scheme isn't going to stop anyone. \n\nOf course it is easier.  Are you saying then the originals SHOULD allow\nonly one install?  What is your point?\n\nthe quiz?  TWO!  Yes, TWO!  (And don't ask me which ones they are.)\n\ninstruction >to just completely skip it.  Not that difficult, really!  And\nthere is very >little that commpanies can do to stop this type of thing. \nUsing PKLITE or >some similar utility would help, but only if the\nresulting compressed .EXE >were tagged as uncompressable. \n\nI know x86 and 680x0 assembly quite well, thank you.  I know exactly which\ntwo bytes need to be changed, I have the code to do them too.  I just said\n\"Don't ask me which ones.\"  I didn't say I don't know what that means.\n\nSuch hacking can be EASILY discouraged by adding anti-patching code which\ndoes a self-check upon execution and refuse to load if CRC does not match\nvalue stored (encrypted, of course) in the program.  It could be claimed\nas a part of anti-virus code, and it would not be far from the truth. \n\na special patch once the user registers that loudly exclaims upon bootup\nabove. \n\n\nDid ANYONE read what I wrote?  That is NOT what I wrote! (or meant!)  \n\nWhat I said was the program should have certain restriction (such as the\nrestrict-to-one-machine) UNTIL the program is registered with the\nmanufacturer.  The manufacturer will then supply the\nthen-proven-legitimate-user with a patch that will disable the restriction\nand PROUDLY PROCLAIM the legal copy with the \"Registered to XXX\" screen.\n\n\nOf course they will, but that was NOT my point.  The purpose of copy\nprotection is to discourage casual pirates (\"Oh, can I have a copy of\nthat?\"\/\"Sure, here.\") and the less sophisticated pirates (\"Let's look for\nall those calls to INT13H...\") .  Any one determined enough to break copy\nprotection can and will succeed.  They can always backtrace the entire\nload-sequence of the program.  The point of copy protection is to make\nsuch attempts take as long as possible while not intruding upon the uses\n(or to minimize such intrusion) of legitimate use.  Pirates who see copy\nprotection as a challenge love breaking them, and no amount of copy\nprotection will stop them, but the rest of us WILL be stopped.  How many\nof these hardcore pirates are there compared to rest of us?  Not that many.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"The following was published in the May 15th Rocky Mountain News.  I\nguess I have some REAL ethical problems with the practices at this\nchurch.  I understand that Baptism is an overriding factor.  I also\nunderstand that this is not an honest way to proceed.  Unfortunately,\nthis is becoming more typical of congregations as the Second Coming is\nperceived to approach.\n\nThere is a real element of disparation in this 'make it happen at any\ncost' style of theology.  I wonder where TRUST IN THE LORD fits into\nthis equation?\n\nBaptisms draw parents' ire -- Children at church carnival in Springs\ntold they'd be killed by bee stings if they didn't submit to religious\nrite.\n\nBy Dick Foster -- Rocky Mountain News Southern Bureau\n\nColorado Springs -- Outraged parents say their children were lured to\na church carnival and then baptixed without their permission by a\nBaptist minister.\n\nDoxens of children, some as young as 8 years old and unaccompanied by\ntheir parents, thought they were going to a carnival at the\nCornerstone Baptist Church, where there would be a big water fight,\nfree balloons, squirt guns and candy.\n\nBefore that May 1 carnival was over, however, children were whisked\ninto a room for religious instruction and told they should be\nbaptized.  In many cases they consented, although they or their\nfamilies are not of the Baptist faith.\n\nThe baptisms by the church have angered many parents, including\nPaulette Lamontagne, a Methodist and mother of twin 8-year-old girls\nwho were baptized without her knowledge or consent.\n\n'My understnading was they were going to a carnival.  I feel that's a\nfalse pretense,' said Lamontagne.  Her daughters said the minister\ntold them they would be killed by bee stings if they were not\nbaptized.\n\nCornerstone church officials defended their actions.\n\n'We take our instructions from the word of God and God has commanded\nus to baptize converts.  No one can show me one passage in the Bible\nwhere it says that parental permission is required before a child is\nbaptized,' said Dan Irwin, associate pastor of the Cornerstone Baptist\nChurch.\n\nChurch officials did not tell parents their children would be baptized\nbecause 'they didn't ask,' Irwin said.\n\nMany other parents also felt they were simply sending their children\nto a carnival at the invitation of their children's friends who were\nmembers of the Cornerstone Church.\n\nPolice said chhurch officials had broken on laws in baptizing the\nchildren, but indicated the parents could pursue civil action.\n\n-------------------------------------------\nAren't these the same behaviors we condemn\nin the Hari Krishnas and other cults?\n\n[I think the issues are more complex than the newspaper account\nmentions.  First, I'm not entirely sure that parental consent is\nabsolutely required.  This would be extremely difficult, because of\nthe clear commandment to obey parents.  But if an older child insisted\non being baptized without their parents' consent, I might be willing\nto do it.  However this would be a serious step, and would warrant\nmuch careful discussion.  The problem I find here is not so much\nparental consent as that there was nobody's consent.  Whether you\nbelieve in infant baptism or not, baptism is supposed to be the sign\nof entry into a Christian community.  If there isn't a commitment from\n*somebody*, whether parent or child, and no intent to become part of\nthe Church, the baptism appears to be a lie.  Furthermore, it is\nlikely to raise serious practical problems.  What if the child is from\na baptist tradition?  Normally when he reaches the age of decision, he\nwould be expected to make a decision and be baptized.  But he already\nhas been, by a church claiming to be a Baptist church.  So does he get\nrebaptized?  Neither answer is really very good.  If not, he's being\nrobbed of an experience that should be very significant to his faith.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"NPR this morning had an interview with Linda McCarthy (name possibly\ngarbled by me), an official historian for the CIA.  She has won an Emmy\nfor research on Moe Berg for a TV documentary (which I know from nothing\nbut which sounds good).  She said that among other things, Berg was the \nprincipal spy for the OSS (CIA's WWII precursor) spying on Axis atomic\nprograms, because of his physics background and language skills.  She said\nthat during the war he met with Heisenberg in Switzerland, and had \ninstructions to shoot Heisenberg if the Germans were close to us in bomb\nresearch (he concluded they were two years behind, and didn't shoot him).\n(I have heard elsewhere that Heisenberg deliberately misled the Nazi bomb\nprogram, but I don't know how reliable this is.)  Unfortunately, NPR didn't\nmention any kind of a book she's writing -- I'd certainly buy it.\n\n(In case you're wondering about baseball relevance, Berg was a longtime\nMLB backup catcher.  He was a member of an MLB All-Star team that toured\nJapan in 1934, presumably not because of his baseball prowess but because\nhe was one of the few Americans, much less MLB players, who spoke Japanese.\nPhotos he took of Tokyo on that trip were later used to plan bombing raids,\naccording to McCarthy.)","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nHas someone actually verified that mass is the predominant constraint on this\nmission?  You seem to be assuming it without giving supporting evidence.  \n\n\n\n\nPat, this would be slower, more expensive and worse.  \n\nSlower:  The shuttle mission is scheduled to go up in December.  That's less\nthan eight months away.  There is no way you could build new hardware, retrain\nand reschedule the EVA's in that time.\n\nMore Expensive:  Your proposal still requires the shuttle to do everything it\nwas going to do execpt fire the OMS.  In addition, you've added significant\nextra cost for a new piece of complex hardware.\n\n\nAccording to a GAO report on the OMV I have before me, there are\nonly two currently planned missions that could use such a vehicle -- HST and\nAXAF.  Since AXAF has since been scaled back and HST can rely on the shuttle,\nthere doesn't seem to be any need for your vehicle.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nRead the documentation for the SimpleMenu (4.2.3 Positioning the SimpleMenu).\nThe reference is to the R5 documentation.\n\nI had not done this before but in less than 10 mins I knocked up the following\nWcl application that does what you want using a Command widget. Even if you are\nnot familiar with Wcl the example is so simple it should be pretty obvious what\nis going on. The crucial thing is the use of the XawPositionSimpleMenu and\nMenuPopup actions.\n\n\nAri.wcChildren:\t\tapp\n\n*app.wcCreate:\t\tCommand\n*app.wcPopups:\t\tmenu\n*app.translations:\t#override \\n\\\n\t\t\t<Btn3Down>: XawPositionSimpleMenu(menu) MenuPopup(menu)\n\n*menu.wcCreate:\t\tSimpleMenu\n*menu.wcChildren:\tone, two, three\n\n*one.wcCreate:\t\tSmeBSB\n\n*two.wcCreate:\t\tSmeBSB\n\n*three.wcCreate:\tSmeBSB\n\n\nJim","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Just one little thing. Last year, mid-december, a cop pulled me over. It \nwas about -10 Centigrade, and it just started snowing (O.K. you are right, I \nlive in Canada). The cop checked my license, insurance, ownership, looked at \nmy frozen nose and fingers, told me to watch the speed limit more closely, \nand, entering his cruiser, told me, I was doing 68 instead of 50 km\/h. \nDidn't ticket me, and I REALLY slowed down after that ( I already mentioned \nit started to snow. )\n\n        Safe riding, Stefan.\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":": \n:    When you force people to associate with others against their will,\n:    yes.\n: \n: People are *forced* into the USA armed forces?\n\nThey were in the recent past, maybe someone knows for certain if the\nusa has decided if it wants a conscript army (as they sent into south\neast asia) or a volenteer one?\n\n--","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Yesterday, a friend had asked me to accompany him to a local motorcycle\ndealer. It has been a while since he last rode (>10 years), and I myself\nhave never bought a new bike from a dealer. What follows is an experience\nof that visit and of an observation of \"SQUILDLY\" behavior by other \ncustomers and\/or sales personel:\n\nBACKGROUND:\n\nI ride with a group of friends, who mainly are into \"cruiser\" type bikes. My\nfriend was hell bent on getting an Intruder and had seen a few used ones. He\nwanted to see what the new ones were going for, so we happened upon a dealer\nthat sold both Suzuki and Yamaha. \n\nThe place was fairly busy, so we browsed a bit. We happened upon a few \nIntruders, most of which had SOLD signs on. My friend had been bitten.\n\nWell the salesdroid appeared and as my friend started chewing the fat, I \nmoseid on outside. The next thing I know, I see 3 or 4 sport bikes pull in.\nI could stereo-type the type of riders (backward ball hat, oakley, IQ <40),\nbut I won't. Well they went inside, I didn't think much of it. I figured\nto each his own. I went back in to see if the salesdroid had his fangs\nfirmly implanted into my friends back,  when I noticed the \"hormone gang\"\ntalking to other salesdroids\/managers. Lot's of laughter, jokes etc. No big\ndeal.\n\nHere is the part that concerned me. The \"HG\" and those shop personel that were\nnot busy with customers went back out, where said \"HG\" members fired up their\nrides and did the obligatory reving up of those 600 beasts. At this point,\none decided to see how much rubber  a Katana 600 could deposit in the drive.\n\nSQUIDS, I thought to myself. BUT I was appalled that the salesdroids\/manager\nnot only condoned this behavior, but encourged it, to the point were they\nwere betting how long he could keep it up and egged him on to pull a wheely\nas he rode off onto a busy street around rush hour. THe girl that was riding pillion on another bike, seemed rather hormonal about this display, and urged her\n\"pilot\" to quickly catch up. The others followed, making sure there Kerkers\ncould be heard as well as felt.\n\nI felt embarassed at this point to be a motorcyclist. I felt the eyes of those\nin cages, witnessing this display, then glancing over to the dealers lot and\ndamning all those on two wheels. Needless to say, my friend felt a little\nuncomfortable and we left. \n\nI will now turn off my frustration and go ride... peacefully, to clear my\nanger. I only hope that the cop who is following me home, has an open\nmind and doesn't associate me with them. ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nI guess that it was not acceptable because Germany *also* chose\na path of aggression simultaneously that put the interests of\nother countries in peril. I wonder whether US or other countries\nwould have risked themselves if only Jews were persecuted and\nHitler had no imperialist ambitions. (I am no student of history\nand I am just asking questions.)\n\nIf even for a moment you think that I am condoing ethnically\nmotivated violence and killings, you are dead wrong. Let me\nassure I am not. My only question is this: Do powerful countries\nhave a moral obligation to interefere in other countries if\ntheir own interests are not threatened. I cite an essay by\nCharles Krauthammer in the Time (this week) that discusses\nthis issue eloquently.\n\nFor example, did US and other European countries abandon their\nmoral compunctions when they chose not to send military troops\nto Bombay when Hindus, in a rare fit of impassioned rage, killed\nmany Muslims recently. I think not!\n\nUnder what conditions should US interfere in foregin countries,\nis an abstraction one must clarify before resorting to acrimonious\naccusations of religious bigotry and such.\n\nSatya Prabhakar","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I'm putting together a list of the civil rights violations perpetrated against\nthe Davidians by the FBI\/BATF. Here is what I've got so far. Care to add\nany or provide more backup info?\n\nFirst Amendment:\n1) FBI\/BATF violated Davidians right to free exercise of religion from the \n\tstart. We now have a de facto precident against any minority religion.\n2) FBI\/BATF violated BD right to free speach by:\n\ta> preventing them to speak to media\n\tb> preventing them from practicing their beliefs\n3) FBI\/BATF violated the freedom of the press by:\n\ta> keeping them 2 miles from the Davidians\n\tb> preventing the media to cover the FBI\/BATF actions close-up\n\tc> censoring media reports\n4) FBI\/BATF violated the BD's right to peaceable assemble\n\ta> proven by initial baseless assault\n\nSecond Amendment:\n1) The BATF went after them because they had too many guns and guns that the\n\tFBI\/BATF didn't approve of. 'Nuff Said.\n\nFourth Amendment:\n1) The right of the BD's to be \"secure in their persons, houses, papers, and\n   effects against unreasonable searches and seizures\" was violated by:\n\ta> Initial baseless assault\n\nFifth Amendment:\n1) The Davidians were \"held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous\n   crime\" without a \"presentment or indictment by a Grand Jury.\"\n2) The Davidians were \"deprived of life, liberty, and property without due \n   process of law.\n\nSixth Amendment:\n1) The accused were denied the right to \"a speedy and public trial by an\n   impartial jury\" when the FBI became judge, jury and executioner.\n2) The BD's were never informed of the specific \"nature anad cause of the\n   accusation.\"\n\nEighth Amendment:\n1) The Davidians suffered cruel and unusual punishment when:\n\ta> The FBI cut off the water to the ranch\n\tb> The FBI used Psy-War (loudspeakers broacasting the screams of\n\t   dying rabbits and Tibetian Chants)\n\tc> The FBI prevented family members from contacting their family\n\t   inside the ranch.\n\td> The FBI used tear-gas against them (especially the children)\n\te> The FBI burned the ranch down.\n\tf> Thoes who escaped were imprisoned without bail without a hearing.\n\nAnything I miss?","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"************************************************\n\n\t\t\tCOLOR 19'' ZENITH TV for SALE\n\n\t\t*************************************************\n\n\n\t\tRemote Control, $60.\n\n\t\tIf Interested, please call 455 6948 or\n\t\t\tE-mail: peng@ece.ucsd.edu\n\n\t\tMust sell by Apr. 30.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
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{"text":"Hi all,\nOf late my computer's Power supply fan has begun to make a lot of noise. What\ncan I do about this? If I had to get new power supply, or get a new case,\nwhere is a good place selling good tower cases and PS. I know there are a \ncouple dozen listed in the Computer Shopper, but I was looking for personal \nexperiences and recommendations.\n\n-- \nDivya","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nNo.  I do not find this conceivable.  I also cannot conceive of the\npossibility that there is any hypothetical team which Morris would\nhelp more than Clemens.\n\n\nGiven your premise, yes.  But you are alone in your ability to\nconceive of that premise.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
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{"text":"o Sony Color Watchman, model FDL-310\n  - VHF\/UHF\n  - 86,400 pixels; 2.7 inch (diag) screen\n  - dimensions 3 3\/8\" x 6 1\/8\" x 1 3\/16\"\n  - bright, vibrant colors, and very sharp (unlike the Casio pocket TVs)\n  - AC power adapter\n  - paid $300.00\n  Asking $150.00 obo\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI know this is kinda off the subject of sci.space, but not really, I want to\nanswer this for their, as well as everyone else's information.  What these\npeople are proposing, by and large already exists and can be purchased today.\n\nIt is called labview by National Instruments.  IT is a wonderful object\noriented graphical programming language.  IT has been implemented on\nboth Mac's PC's and VME unix boxes.  IT is fare superior to any programming\napproach that I have ever seen and allowed us to decrease the software\ndevelopment time for our shuttle payloads by 90 percent.  This program is\nnot dependendant on specific hardware and already has exensive analysis \ncapability.\n\nWhy re-invent the wheel on a platform that may not exist? It is a great\nidea but look out there at what is available today.  The Hydrogen leak on\nthe Shuttle was found using this software. All SSME control and simulation\nstudies, along with the real testing at MSFC is handled with LabVIEW.  There\nare tons of applications, with the ability to create \"virtual\" instruments\nthat can accomplish any specific custom task the maker desires.  With the\naddition of IEEE-488 support, the computer becomes a virtual control station,\nallowing the graphic representation of remote instrumentation. With serial\nI\/O support that instrument can be anywhere.  The ground control software\nfor the main control of SEDSAT 1 will utilize this approach.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"(This is a continuation of an earlier post)\n\n\n(I am sorry you found this offensive.  It was not my intent to offend.  I was \nleading up to another point, which I discuss in more detail below.)\n\n\nI can see you have a revulsion for bestiality that far exceeds my distaste for \nhomosexuality.  Certainly if I spoke about homosexuality the way you speak of \nbestiality, nobody would have any trouble labelling me a homophobe.  Let me ask \nthis gently:  why are you so judgemental of other people's sexual preferences?  \nWhat happened to \"No doubt I am free to do anything\"?  I think you have a \nserious double standard here.  When you describe a comparison between \nhomosexuality and bestiality as \"slimey\" and \"sleazy\", you are making an \nimplicit judgement that bestiality is perverted, sinful, disgusting, \nunnatural--in short, all the things that society once thought about \nhomosexuality.  Not all people share your view.  You claim not to know any \nsincere zoophiles, but this does not mean that they do not exist.  They even \nhave their own newsgroup:  alt.sex.bestiality.  Are you going to accuse them \nall of being mere \"jokers\"?\n\nI notice you deleted the main point of my comment:  the fact that the only \nBiblical condemnations of bestiality occur in connection with the Levitical \nprohibitions against homosexuality.  While there are some New Testament \npassages that can arguably be taken as condemning homosexuality, there are none \nthat condemn bestiality.  One of your main points seems to be that Christian \nhomosexuality is acceptable due to the lack of any \"clear\" New Testament \nstatements against it; if this is a valid argument, then should not Christian \nzoophilia be made that much more acceptable by the fact that the New Testament \nmakes no reference, clear or unclear, to the subject at all?\n\nI am quite serious here.  If I am going to accept homosexuality as Biblically \nacceptable on the basis of your arguments, then I am going to be fair and apply \nthe same standards to everyone else's declared sexual preferences as well.  If \nthe arguments you make for homosexuality can be applied to other sexual \npreferences as well, I'm going to apply them and see what comes up.  I'm not \ntrying to \"torpedo a serious issue\" by using what you label \"a ridiculous \njoke\".  I posted a question about how we should interpret Biblical guidelines \nfor Christian sexuality, and I don't think such a question is \"irrelevant\" in a \ngroup called \"soc.religion.christian\".  The Bible discusses homosexuality and \nbestiality together in the same context, and therefore I feel I have a good \nprecedent for doing the same.\n\n\nI don't know whether it makes any difference, but for the record, this is not a \nside issue for me.  I believe loving one another includes not encouraging \npeople to defile themselves, therefore it is of high importance to determine \nwhether God regards certain sexual acts as defiling.  I can read in the New \nTestament that \"God has joined together\" heterosexual couples, and that the \nmarriage bed is undefiled.  I can read in the Old Testament that homosexual \nintercourse and bestiality defile a person whether or not that person is under \nthe Law.  If gay Christians can validly put aside the Old Testament standards \nof defilement, then I want to know so that I can fairly apply it to all the \nsexual practices that defiled a person in the old days.  I don't think it's \nright to take just bits and pieces of the Law and try and apply them to \nChristians today, e.g. bestiality still defiles you but homosexuality doesn't.  \nThat was pretty much what you said earlier, right?  You used different \nexamples, but I think you said essentially the same thing about it being wrong \nto apply only certain parts of the Law to Christians. \n\n\nIt was not my intent to stir up such an emotional reaction.  I personally don't \nget all that upset discussing alternatives to the monogamous heterosexual \norientation; I'm afraid I naively assumed that others would have a similar \nattitude.  Please note that I have never intended to equate homosexuality with \nchild abuse.  I have merely noted that, for all the lack of \"clear\" NT \ncondemnation of homosexuality, there is an even greater lack of NT condemnation \n(or even mention) of bestiality, a practice which a number of people (e.g. on \nalt.sex.bestiality) consider to be their true sexual orientation.\n\n\nThis is an excellent question, and I pray that you will not treat it as a mere \nrhetorical question, but will genuinely seek to discover and understand the \nanswer.  I recommend you begin with a little introspection into why you \nyourself have much the same attitude towards zoophilia.  Why do you find \nbestiality so repugnant that you regard it as slanderous to even mention in \nconnection with other alternative sexual orientations?  Why do you not apply \nall the same verses about love and tolerance to zoophiles the way you apply \nthem to homosexuals?\n\nIs it because you automatically experience a subjective feeling of revulsion at \nthe thought?  A lot of people have the same experience at the thought of \nhomosexual intercourse.  Is it because you regard the practice as socially \nunacceptable?  A lot of people regard homosexuality as socially unacceptable.  \nDo you feel that it violates the traditional Judeo-Christian standard of sexual \nmorality?  Many people feel that homosexuality does.  Do you feel the Bible \ncondemns it?  Many people think the Bible says more to condemn homosexuality \nthan it does to condemn bestiality.  Why then do you think comparing bestiality \nwith homosexuality is insulting to homosexuality?  If you can honestly answer \nthis question, you will have come a long way towards understanding why many \npeople feel the same way about homosexuality as you feel about bestiality.\n\nAlso please note that I am not in any sense condemning *people*.  I am merely \npointing out that when I read the Bible I see certain sexual *practices* that \nthe Bible appears to condemn, e.g. sex outside of marriage.  When I say I think \nadultery and pre-marital sex are sinful, do you take that as me failing to love \nmy neighbor?  When you treat bestiality as something disgusting and \nunmentionable, are you disobeying \"repeated orders not to judge or condemn \nothers\"?  When you say other Christians are guilty of sinning by condemning you \nand judging you, are you by that accusation making yourself guilty of the same \noffense?  Or are you and I both simply taking note about *practices* the Bible \nbrands as sinful, and leaving the judgement of the *people* up to God?\n\n\nI'm not sure what you mean by the above two paragraphs.  If you mean that Jesus \nis the Truth, and that He accepts sinners, and does not reject them, then I \nagree.  If we were not sinners, then we would not *need* a Savior.  Our \nsalvation in Christ, however, does not mean that sin is now irrelevant for us, \nand we can now do whatever we want.  Nor does Christ's grace mean that those \nwho refer to sin as \"sin\" are being judgemental or intolerant.  I am speaking \nin general terms here, not specifically about homosexuality.  If the Bible \ncalls something \"sin\", then it is not unreasonable for Christians to call it \nsin too.\n\nAs applied to Christian homosexuality, I think the only definitive authority on \nChristian sexuality is the Bible.  If you make a list of everything the Bible \nsays on the subject of homosexual intercourse, I think you will find that every \nverse on the list is negative and condemning at worst, and \"unclear\" at best.  \nThe most pro-gay statement you could make about the list is that there is some \ndispute about the New Testament verses which many people interpret as \ncondemning homosexual intercourse.  That is, from a gay perspective, the most \npositive thing you can say about the Bible's treatment of homosexuality is that \nsome verses fail to clearly condemn it.  That's it.  Jesus declared all foods \nclean, the council at Jerusalem declared that Gentiles were not required to \nkeep the ritual Law, but nobody ever reclassified homosexual intercourse from \nbeing an abomination deserving of death to being an accepted Christian \npractice.  You have verses describing homosexual intercourse as an abomination \nthat defiles both Jews under the Law and Gentiles not under the Law, and you \nhave some verses which are at best \"not clear\" but which some people believe \n*are* clear in their condemnation of homosexual behavior, and that's the sum \ntotal of what the Bible says about same-sex intercourse.\n\nI can appreciate (from personal experience) your desire to have everything \nsimple, cut-and-dried, black-and-white, what-I-want- is-ok, and \nthose-who-oppose-me-are-wicked.  However, I do not think the Bible makes your \ncase as definitively as you would like it to.  In fact, I don't believe it says \nanything positive about your case at all.  Yes, I know the verses about loving \none another, and not judging one another, but that's not really the issue, is \nit?  You know and admit that there are still things that are sinful for \nChristians to do, since you say it is wrong for Christians to condemn you.  \nTherefore, the issue is whether the Bible says homosexual intercourse is a sin.  \nEven if you do challenge the clarity of the New Testament verses, you are still \nleft with the fact that the only thing the Bible does say clearly about \nhomosexual intercourse is that it is an abomination that defiles both those who \nare under the law and those who are not.\n\n- Mark\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nA squid is the guy I saw back in December on cool 40 degree morning on my way\nto work. He was wearing knee-length pants, light jacket, no gloves, though he\nwas going considerably slower than DoD nominal.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
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{"text":"\nOr do like the manual says and put it in 3rd first, then you can quickly\ngo into reverse... no waiting.\n\nmark","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nOnly if he doesn't spend more than a billion dollars doing it, since the\nprize is not going to be scaled up to match the level of effort.  You can\nspend a billion pretty quickly buying Titan launches.\n\nWhat's more, if you buy Titans, the prize money is your entire return on\ninvestment.  If you develop a new launch system, it has other uses, and\nthe prize is just the icing on the cake.\n\nI doubt very much that a billion-dollar prize is going to show enough\nreturn to justify the investment if you are constrained to use current\nUS launchers.  (There would surely be a buy-American clause in the rules\nfor such a prize, since it would pretty well have to be government-funded.)\nYou're going to *have* to invest your front money in building a new launch\nsystem rather than pissing it away on existing ones.  Being there first is\nof no importance if you go bankrupt doing it.\n\n\nI'm sure Spar would offer to develop such a lunar-tuned system and deliver\na couple of them to you for only a couple of hundred million dollars.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nHmmmmmmmmm. I can read this one of two ways:\n\n1) Ed gotabike.\n2) Motorcyclist is like alcoholic. (once you're an alcoholic, you're always\nan\n                                    alcoholic - at least that's what\nfriends in\n                                    a position to know tell me)\n\n                  tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Acorn Software, Inc. has 3 tape drives (currently used on a VMS\nsystem) for sale.  These are all SCSI tape drives and are in\nworking condition.\n\n         WangDat 1300 4mm                $500.00\n         WangDat 2600 4mm (compression)  $650.00 (SALE PENDING)\n         Exabyte 8200 8mm                $650.00 (SALE PENDING)\n\nPlus shipping and COD.  Certified checks only, please.  These\nunits are sold as is and without warrantee.  Contact me if you're\ninterested.\n-- \nDick Munroe\t\t\t\tInternet: munroe@dmc.com\nDoyle Munroe Consultants, Inc.\t\tUUCP: ...uunet!thehulk!munroe\n267 Cox St.\t\t\t\tOffice: (508) 568-1618\nHudson, Ma.\t\t\t\tFAX: (508) 562-1133","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I am having the problem of ensuring point-to-focus when the mouse\ncursor enters a window in my application.  I'm using InterViews,\nbut that may not matter, this seems to be a generic problem in X.\nFor example, I use OpenWindows on a Sparc2, with point-to-focus\nset, and that generally works, but not always, depending on what\nwas going on in some window when I move the cursor from one shell\ntool window to another.  Or so it seems...\n\nMy question, then, is what can I do within X to guarantee point-to-\nfocus within my application?  Thanks for any response.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Like Clinton and Reno, I accept full responsibility for this\nsenseless disaster.  My wife and I picked this game to go to\nand thus caused the return of the pre-season-projected Sox\noffense.  Like all no-no's Bosio was good, lucky (hard grounder\nby Vaughn off T. Martinez' glove but straight to Boone who \nthrew to Bosio at first, 3-4-1), and backed by good defense\n(many non-trivial groundouts).  The game was amazingly fast,\nas the Sox tended to go down quickly and Hesketh was also \nworking fast.  The Sox relief pitching was ok -- the runs off\nQuantrill were on two ridiculous bloops and a hard line single\nwhich Greenwell let get past him trying for a catch.\n\nGreenwell's mental stability is a serious concern (I guess it\nhas always been, but his quirks were amusing back when he was\nan MVP candidate).  Wednesday he got in a huff with Johnson a\nafter striking out on a bad inside pitch (apparently Johnson\nmade an \"ok, I've got to stay focused\" gesture which Iron Mike\ninterpreted as taunting), and struck out to heavy booing the \nnext two times.  As Valentine noted, last night he came up in\nthe first after Riles and Quintana had walked to open the game.\nCan you say \"take the first pitch\"?  Not Mike, who dribbled it\ninto a 6-4-3.  The PI quoted Bosio that this was a \"batting\npractice fastball\".  Next time up he also hit the first pitch,\na hard liner straight to KGJr in center.  He also made the\npathetic error and failed to catch Boone's HR (which looked \ncomparable to the ball Lance Johnson caught on the highlight\nreel that night).\n\nIs Riles suppsoed to be good defensively?  I couldn't tell from\nthe field angle but his range looked bad, and he coughed a DP\nthat cost a run or two.  Why was he leadoff?  I hope Fletcher\ngets well soon.\n\nAlso on lineups, Pinella put Bret Boone fifth for reasons beyond\nme.  It seemed to work, as he was 3-4 with a HR and some good\ndefense (a wag behind us said \"He sure don't want to go back to\nCalgary!\")  There is a theory that you put a leadoff type fifth\nbecause they'll likely lead off the second (as Boone did).\n\nWell, now we face the hot Angels and another power pitcher in\nLangston.  A reminder that contest entries are open through next\nWednesday -- I expect a surge of pessimism.  By the way, ties will\nbe broken by earliest entry.  One entry per person or pseudonym,\nplease, and easy on the pseudonyms.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nHi, any body has experience with the Ultrastor UltraSCSI driver package?\nI also need the phone number for Ultrastor (it's not in the book) and\ni cannot find them in the company listing in Computer Shopper.\nThanks in advance\n  tony kwong (908) 699-4130 \n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Which newsgroup discusses graphic design on PCs and macs?","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nNo, this is far from clear.  We only have the word of the FBI spokepeople that\na survivor made this claim.  We have the contradictory word of the lawyers who\nspoke with the survivors individually that ALL of them agreed that they did\nNOT have a suicide pact and did not intentionally start the fire.  In the absense\nof any more evidence, I don't see how we can decide who to believe.\nFurthermore, its quite possible that there was no general suicide pact and that\nsome small inner circle took it upon themselves to kill everyone else.\nWith the state of the area now, we may never know what happened.\n\n\nAgain, we have only the word of the FBI on this claim.  The lawyers who\nhave also talked to the survors deny that any of them are making that claim.\n\n\nI will agree on your assessment as to the relative probabilities.  Its more likely\nthat the BD's started the fire than did the FBI.  But there is currently NO\nway to decide what actually happened based on the publically available evidence\n(which is nearly none).\n\n\n   D.   The fire was an started accidentally by the BDs.  I am truely amazed that\n        I have heard (or read) of no one suggesting this possibility.\n        With all the tear gas and the lack of electical power in the compound and\n        the adults wearing gas masks, it had to have been chaotic inside.\n        I can easily image someone leaving a lamp too close to something or\n        accidentally dropping a lamp or knocking one over.  With the winds, it\n        would have quickly gotten out of control.\n\n\n   No, I think that D is also quite reasonable.  I personally can't really\nasses any relative probablities to either of these 3 probabilities although if\nforced to bet on the issue, I would probably take an accident (either FBI or\nBD) over intential setting of the fire).\n\n   I would also like to add a comment related to the reports that bodies recovered\nhad gunshot wounds.  The coroner was on the Today Show this morning and categorically\ndenied that they've reach any such conclusions.  He pointed out that under intense\nheat, sufficient pressure builds up in the head that can cause it to explode and\nthat this can look very much like a massive gunshot wound to the head which is\nquite consisted with te reports I've read and heard.\n\n   In short, there's been almost no evidence corroborating any of the many\nscenarios as to what happened on Monday.  We should remain skeptical until\nmore information is available.  \n\n\n-- ","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nThere was an article in USA today a few months ago showing the results\nof a study that actually only about 1% were homosexual.  I saw another\nfigure that listed 2% as the figure.  Of course, even if it were 99%\nthat would have little bearing on whether or not it is a sinful behavior.\nHow many people have commited other acts of fornication?  How many\npeople have lied or sinned in other ways?\n\n\nWhy isn't it a specific feature of homosexuality?  Paul describes\n\"men with men working that which is unseemly\" to describe the acts.  \nSure, there spirtual nature was depraved also, and like the other\nsins, the idolatry, the other sexual immoraity, and the other sins\nsprang from their depraved spiritual state which was a result of \nman's not glorifying God as God and being thankful.  Still, their\nacts were shameless.\n\n\nIs everything sinful specifically elaborated on in the New Testament?\nScripture does not condemn being a drug dealer.  Being ruled by the\nSpirit rather than the letter not only frees from legalism, it also\nprotects us from sins that are against the Spirit.  The word is a\ntwo edged sword that cuts both ways.  \n\nI think we must be careful before we totally throw out Leviticus.  \nIf the Law is reflection of God's character and true holy nature, then\nthose who say that God endorses homosexuality run into a problem.  \nIf homosexuality were \"natural\" (whatever that means) wholesome, \nendorsed by God, and those who oppose sexual behavior are narrow-minded\nbiggots, as some would have us believe, why is there a condemnation of\nit in Leviticus.  This condemnation is in the midst of all the other\nsex sin condemnations, and there is nothing in the text to say that this\nlaw was limited to temple prostitution, and no good reason to believe that\nthis was the case.  Furthermore, male homosexual sex was a death-penalty\ncrime!  \n\nIs every sin elaborated on in the New Testament?  Take a look at\nI Corinthians 5.  Paul said that one of the Corinthians had broken a\nlaw not even heard of among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's\nwife.  There is a prohibition against having your father's wife in \nLeviticus.  No other new Testament verse clearly condemns it (besides\nthis one.)  Notice that Paul did not say that the sin was in commiting\nadultery, etc.- he spoke against having one's father's wife.  \n\nNotice also that this sexual condemnation in Leviticus is not mentioned\nin the specific context of paganism either.  And there was no pagan \ncoustom mentioned in I corinthians either.  As a matter of fact\ntaking one's father's wife wasn't even done among the Gentiles.  It was\njust a plain blantant sin, whether worshipping idols was involved or\nnot.\n\n\nOne of the reasons that some of us do not accept that common argument\nis because Paul probably did face this and other problems.  Sin can\nbe tough to over come, especially without supernatural power.  Is\nhomosexual sin any more difficult to overcome that heterosexual sin,\nlike lusting after a married woman, or sleeping around with people of\nthe opposite sex?  I doubt it, and even if it is, that is no excuse.\nGod is greater than all of it. \n\nAnother reason we reject it is because it ignores the supernatural\npower of God to intervene in this kind of situation.  How many \npeople have been set free from sin by the power of God?  Sure there\nmay be any groups that have tried to change homosexuals and failed.\nThat is a reflection on the people involved in the program, and not\nGod's willingness and ability to change a sinner.  Any program that\nuses formulas may fail.  What people need is the power of God to\nchange them, whether they are involved in homosexual sin, or any other\nsin.\n\n\nI don't see how you come to that conclusion.  Paul's dealings with\npastorial issues encouraged people to give up their liberties in order\nto spare others- not to allow people to continue in sin because it\nwas just too difficult.  Take the example of eating meat offered to idols.\nPaul felt that there was nothing wrong, in an abstract sense, with\neating the meat.  Yet he advised believers to sacrifice their liberty\nto eat meat in order to spare others.  \n\nBut Paul never allowed people to sin because living holy was just to\ntough.  Paul wrote to \"make no provision for the flesh to fulfill the lusts\nthereof.\"  (Romans 13:14)  Then he goes in to a discourse on how we\nshould sacrifice our own liberty in order to spare the consciences of others.\n\nSuppose it were not a sin for people to practice homosexual acts.  \nSince others consider it to be a sin, then using Paul's approach\non pastorial issues, those who would otherwise be homosexuals should \nsacrifice their liberty and be celbate or monogamously married to a\nmember of the opposite sex.  Paul never offers a lesser sin (homosexual\n\"marriage\") to prevent people from engaging in what may be considered \na more damaging sin.\n\n\nYet marriage itself is not a sin.  marriage is holy in all- and something\nthat God ordains, and Paul recognizes this.\n\n\nActually, Adam was put in the garden to tend to it before he fell.\nAfter he fell he would have to toil over the ground.\n\n\nThat is why we are dependent totally on God- what a vunerable and glorious\nposition to be it.  We all must be transformed by the renewing of our\nminds- and that is the only way homosexuals can walk in freedom, just\nlike anyone else.\n\n\nI'm sure you can see how people with the opposing view see this \nconclusion.  It's like saying, \"How should I kill myself, with gun or\naresenic?  What about the person who just is overcome with a desire to\nsleep with goats?  Would it be better for him to sleep with one goat,\nor all of them?  What about the person who wants to sleep with his aunts?\nWould it be better for him to sleep with one aunt or all of them?  \n\nIn all these cases, the more people or animals one sleeps with, the higher\nthe chance that they will get a disease.  But this only deals with \nphysical aspects of the question.  Whichever sin is commited, it all \nleads to spiritual death.\n\n\nThe issue that is most often addressed in Scripture seems to be the\nactual act.  Second, isn't it historical snobbery to say that\nonly homosexuals of this century are capable of having \"loving\nrelationships?\"  There are ancient writings glorifying homosexual \"love.\"\n(btw, I am one who believes in refraining from making oathes.  Also,\nwhere do you get that tax collectors are sinners.  That's certainly not\nexplicit.  Jesus didn't tell Zachias to quit his job.)\n\nLink Hudson.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nI have both!\n\nI have IDE only on my DROS box and IDE and SCSI on my Unix box.\n\nIDE on the DROS box 'cos it only has a hard disk, SCSI on my Unix box 'cos it\nhas a SCSI hard disk, CD-ROM and tape.\n\nI bought SCSI as it makes adding many devices easier. For the price of one\nirq and dma I have three different types of device connected up.\n\nFaster drives are also available for SCSI - I have a DEC DSP3085s that realy\ndoes have a 9ms average seek time. I.E it finds data 25% faster than my 12ms\nToshiba drive.\n\n\nI don't think that SCSI will increase your data transfer much on an ISA bus :-(\n\n\n890KB\/s is pretty good...\n\n\nMany state of the art SCSI disks use the *SAME* mechanicals as many state of the\nart IDE drives. Only the interface electronis differ - look at the 520MB Fijitsu\ndrive for an example!\n\n\nI use an Adaptec 1542B on my Unix box and no-name IDE cards on both.\n\n\nCaching controller! Why? What does it give you that smartdrive ( for DOS ) does \nnot? About 30KB extra lower memory! That's about it.\n\nA properly configured main memory cache will produce better results than a caching\ncontroller! My Unix reads reads data from its main memory cache at 8.5MB\/s! That's\nfaster than the standards ISA bus can ever sustain!\n\n\n\nGuy","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Introducing the Back to the Moon in Congress:\n                          The Next Step\n                          \n        The next key hurdle for the Lunar Resources Data Purchase \nAct is introduction of the Act in Congress. At this point,  many\ncongresspersons have been approached about the bill. However,\nfor a successful effort to pass the bill, we need the best\npossible congressperson to introduce the bill. Due to his\nposition as Chair of the House Committee on Space and Science,\nCongressman George Brown is the logical choice. He has a long\nrecord of support and interest in space development, and helped\npass the Launch Services Purchase Act and the Space Settlements\nAct.                      \n        There is a small group of activists in southern California \nwho have assisted George Brown in his recent re-election campaigns.\nWe are mobilizing this group to have them tell Congressman Brown\nabout the Back to the Moon bill. We are also asking pro-space\nconstituents to let him know that they care about getting\nAmerica back to the Moon.\n        Finally, there is a good chance that a nationwide alert \nfor space activists to call or write George Brown to have him\nintroduce the Back to the Moon bill may be staged during late\nspring, 1993.\n        All this should produce a positive reaction from Brown's\noffice. As more is known, it will be passed on.\n        However, even if we are successful in getting him to support\nthe bill,  this alone will not ensure passage of the bill. For\nany bill to become law, one of three conditions must exist:\neither the bill must reflect widespread national support for an\nissue (such as extension of unemployment insurance benefits); be\npropelled by high-priced lobbyists (we're out of luck there); or\nhave widespread support within Congress, due to small, but\nwidespread, constituent support. The latter is the path that we,\nby necessity, must choose.                    \n        This means that the introduction of the Lunar Resources \nData Purchase Act must be immediately accompanied by a large number\nof congresspersons' sponsorship of the bill.  To accomplish\nthis, we need activists to ask their congressperson to support\nthe Lunar Resources Data Purchase Act - now. To wait until the\nbill is introduced is simply too late - it takes time to have a\ncongressperson's staff review a bill.\n        If your congressperson mentions that the bill is not yet\nintroduced, please elicit their opinion of the bill as currently\nwritten. We appreciate all comments on the bill from activists\nand politicians.\n        If you have yet to see the Back to the Moon bill, please\nrequest a copy by Email (please include your U.S. postal service\naddress), or contact your local chapter of the National Space\nSociety).","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nJefferson was not the author of the Bill of Rights.  My history\nbooks aren't here, but Jefferson might have been in the group\nthat did not think that enumerating rights was necessary.\nCheers,\nSteve","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>\nSubject: Arab H.R. Assoc.,Nazareth\n\n\nThe Arab Association for Human Rights\nP.O. Box 215\nNazareth, 16101 Israel\nPhone (972)-6-561923\nFax (972)-6-564934\n\nThe Arab Association for Human Rights (HRA) was \nformed in 1988 to address discriminatory practices and \nhuman rights abuses by Israel against its Palestinian \ncitizens.\n\nIt is a unique association concerned with the civil, \npolitical, economic, social and cultural rights of the \nPalestinian national minority in Israel. Among the issues \nof concern are land confiscation, education, prison \nconditions, unemployment, torture and the unequal \nallocation of Israel's resources.\n\nToday there are around 800,000 Palestinian Arabs living \nwithin the Green line (the pre-1967 borders of Israel), \nconstituting 18% of Israel's citizens. For them it is an \nempty citizenship in a system geared exclusively for the \nneeds of the Jewish population. Legally and practically, \nIsrael has proclaimed itself a Jewish state and early \npromises of equality for non-Jewish citizens have not \nbeen fulfilled. This is apparent in many areas strongly \naffecting the Palestinian national minority.\n\nMost Arab agricultural land has been confiscated since \n1948. The Arab sector is vastly underfunded and does \nnot receive a fair share of state resources. On a day-to-\nday level, Palestinians face discrimination in many \ndifferent forms and find it is a struggle to get permission \nto build a house, start a business, find a job or educate \ntheir children.\n\nACTIVITIES","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nWhen they explode 'em, all the screws fly away.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Does anyone know how to absolute memory locations in windows,\nie.  hardware that is memory mapped at very high addresses 16mb++\nand above?\nPlease reply by email\nthanks\nDavid\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Spike is owned by both Tom and I.  We went 1\/2's on the purchase price\nand have split costs of needed parts, registration, etc.  Both names are\non the pink slip.\n\nI am covered by insurance to ride the Harley.   I'd give it a go if\nI could work the clutch.  I can barely get the clutch lever to move\nusing both hands while standing next to the bike.  Ol' Sport is a\nvery distinctive bike.\nThe Concours is favorite of mine.  I've pillioned an easy 4000 miles\non that bike in the last year.  Unfortunately, my feet are a good\n10\" off the ground once I'm on her.  No way I could take her for a\nride as pilot rather than pillion.  If I could fit on a Concours, I'd\nbuy one.  IMHO, the best sport-tourer made.  I'm not _too_ upset\nI had to settle for the Ducati 750SS as my touring bike, though. :-)\n\nSo, now you know.\n\nBeth","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":": Is it possible to do a \"wheelie\" on a motorcycle with shaft-drive?\n: \n\n\tYes. \n\n ==============================================================================\n  Erik Astrup                  AFM #422                              DoD #683 \n\n  1993 CBR 900RR  *  1990 CBR 600  *  1990 Concours  *  1990 Ninja 250 ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nOK, now you are starting to define your criteria.\n\n\nI'm afraid that you haven't actually proved that.  You have shown that some\naspects of MSW3.1 are technically inferior to other systems.  As I said\nearlier, if this is all you are trying to say then it is trivially true.\nBut some aspects of MSW3.1 are actually technically superior to each of the\nother systems (resource requirements, performace, device support, printer\nsupport, GUI etc.)\n\n[ BTW, I'd love to see the studies which show that UNIX\/X is as easy to\n  learn as Windows! ]\n\nBut I might even agree that, on balance, MSW3.1 is technically inferior to\nsome of the competition. This still does not prove your point.\n\n\nRange of available applications? Base OS cost? Cost of applications? Cost\nof hardware? Multi-platform support?  Quality of the after-sales service?\nAvailability of books\/training materials? Support for visual and physical\nhandicaps?  Suitability for use in mobile computing? Quality of\nDocumentation?","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nI think that Grant Fuhr deserves more credit than that!\nWhile it's true that the entire Sabres team played very well, I\nstill believe that if it wasn't for Grant Fuhr, the series would\nnow be tied 2-2. He virtually stole games 1 and 3 for the Sabres.\nIn both of these games, Fuhr stood on his head to give the Sabres\nthe chance to win. Especially in game 3, Fuhr made a series of\nhuge stops in the third period when the score was tied 2-2. \nEven in game 2 when the Sabres won 4-0, the score seemed to\nindicate that the Sabres dominated. However, if it hadn't been\nfor Fuhr, the Sabres wouldn't have been up (2-0 I think it was)\nthrough the 2nd period and the Bruins wouldn't have had to open\nup the game (thereby allowing Mogilny to score the third goal on\na breakaway to salt away the game).  There\nis no doubt in my mind that Fuhr was the critical factor in the\nvictory. \n\nIn my opinion, Neely, Oates and Juneau played as well as\nLaFontaine, Mogilny and Hawerchuk. The Sabres did get\nextraordinary efforts from Hannan, Sweeney, Wood, and Khmylev\n(compared to that of the Bruins checkers). However, the Bruins defense\n, IMO, played better than the Sabres defense (the Sabres have Ken Sutton\nplaying a regular shift afterall ;-)\nThe difference in the series was Fuhr, who outplayed Andy Moog. \n\nGary","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nMy information shows that the last San Marco launch was 1988.  There seem to \nhave been a total of seven before that.  I seem to recall that someone, either\nASI or the University of Rome (?) includes money in their annual budget for\nmaintainance of the platforms (there are actually two).\n\nThe Italians have been spending money to develop an advanced Scout.  However,\nrecent events in the Italian space program, and the Italian government overall\nmake me skeptical that this will get off the ground in the near future.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Davis Nicoll sez;\n\nI'd buy that for two reasons.  The tubes for TV's and radios (if you can\nstill find them) are usually 3x or more expensive than comparable transistors.\n\nAlso, ask any electric-guitar enthusiast which type of amp they prefer, and\nthey'll tell you tube-type, since tubes have lower distortion and noise\nthan transistors.  'Course, most of your electric guitar types just say\n\"Tubes sound better, dude.\" :-)\n\nAlso, transistors have the advantage in both waste-heat and energy-use,\nmainly because of the heaters on the cathodes of the tubes.\n\n-Tommy Mac\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTom McWilliams 517-355-2178 wk   \\\\ As the radius of vision increases,\n18084tm@ibm.cl.msu.edu 336-9591 hm \\\\ the circumference of mystery grows.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\tA \"reasonable\" umpire would have recognized that Ron Gant was \ndisturbed with the call.  A \"reasonable\" umpire would have realized that\nthere was a 1-run game in progress, with two outs in the ninth.  What\nRon Gant did was try to regain his composure.  What a \"normal\" baseball\nplayer would have done would have been to get into a heated argument\nwith the umpire, and since you can't argue balls and strikes, he would\nhave been ejected from the game.  Ron Gant, by trying to avoid such a\nconflict, was penalized for showing some restraint.\n\n\tIncidentally, a \"reasonable\" home plate umpire would not have been\nso resistant to seeking the appeal to the first base umpire, as Gant\nrequested.  If the home plate umpire had appealed to first, the first base\numpire could have wrung up the strike, and Gant would not have been so\nupset.  If the call had been a ball, and the catcher had requested the\nappeal, it is likely the home plate umpire would have asked for the help.\n\n\tFinally, the entire game was pretty much a mockery of the so-called\nefforts to \"speed up the game.\"  The game was played very quickly, it was\njust at 2 hours when the stuff happened in the ninth, and the only delays\nin the entire game had been *the result* of actions by the umpires (other than\nDeion having to clean garbage off the field).\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Hello, this package is the right thing for you if you are \nplanning a short vacation in central Florida. For $169, you get:\n\n\t--Four nights in first class hotels for two adults and up\nto three children. Two nights each in Orlendo and Daytona Beach.\nYou will pay additional state tax of $3\/day (required by law).\n\n\t--A great coupon book for major tourist atractions, \nrestaurants, etc.\n\n\t--Fully transferable. It expires at 9\/16\/93. Can be extended\nfor a whole year for only $20 more.\n\n\t--you need to make reservation 45 days in advance otherwise\nthe availability of hotel is not ganranteed.\n\n\t--Price negotiable.\n\n\tThe reason I am selling it is because I missed the deadline\nof using it for last Chrismas.  ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nI and many others on a.a have described how we have tried to find god.\nAre you saying our efforts have not been sincere?  For all the effort\nI have put in, there has been no outward nor inward change that I can\nperceive.  What's a sincerely searching Agnostic or Atheist supposed to\ndo when even the search turns up nothing?\n\n\nHow do you \"accept that which you don't know\"?  Do you mean that I must\nbelieve in your god in order to believe in your god?\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nI would guess that it probably has something to do with the ease of which\nideas and thoughts are communicated on a college campus.  In the real world\n(tm) it's easier for theists (well, people in general really) to lock\nthemselves into a little bubble where they only see and talk to those\npeople who are of the same opinion as they are.  In college you are\nconstantly surrounded by and have to interact with people who have\ndifferent ideas about life, the universe, and everything.  It is much much\nharder to build a bubble around yourself to keep everyone else's ideas from\nreaching you.\n\nSo, in a world where theists are forced to contend with and listen to\natheists and theists of other religions some are bound to have a change in\ntheir beliefs over four years.  There is nowhere to run.... :-)\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I am having trouble compiling xtmenu.  I am running on a Sparc IPC\nusing SunOS 4.1.1 and OpenWindows 3.  I am getting undefined references\nto arguments to XtSetArg such as XttextEdit, XttextRead, etc.  Am I\nusing the wrong version of a library? missing an include file?  Any\nhelp would be greatly appreciated.\n\nJeff.\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"From article <1993Apr22.145106.158@cathy.ijs.si>, by Borut.B.Lavrencic@ijs.si:\n[...]\n[...]\n\nAre you sure that the field is in the area you found the antenna\nfarm?  The tomb (\"Ymvos\") of Marathon which Herodotus specifies as near\nthe fighting area is in an area open to the public.\n\nYou must be referring to the U.S. army base of \"Nea Makri\".  It was\nbuilt by the U.S. in the same manner as bases all over the world\n(W. Germany, Spain, Philippines, Turkey etc.) were built.  I think\nit was a telecommunications hub.  Over the recent years U.S. forces\nhave withdrawn from the base and removed all military equipment.  The\narea is currently under the control of the Greek Navy until the all\ninterested parties (local goverment, central goverment, political parties\nagree on what should be done with the land (park, recreation area,\nreal-estate.)\n\n(This has nothing to do with cryptography, security and the EFF; I have\nredirected followups to soc.culture.greek)\n\nDiomidis","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Could someone please tell me how I can access the FAQ for this\ngroup?  I'm relatively new, and would like to read it, but\nalthough I've seen it mentioned, I've yet to see it posted.  Is\nit archived somewhere or does someone post it to the group on a\nregular basis?  or, is it distributed on-demand?  I'd appreciate\nany help anyone can give me.  \n\nThanks in advance.\n\n\t\t\t- Mary\n\np.s.  Please respond via email as the articles expire within 24\nhours on my mail system, and I don't always get a chance to read\neverything.  Thanks.\n\n\n===============================================================\nMary Blumenstock               mblumens@itsmail1.hamilton.edu","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nWouldn't bother me.  I'd laugh.  It wouldn't work -- the surface of the\nMoon is *already* pretty dark, and the contrast would be so poor you\ncouldn't possibly see it.  The only reason the Moon looks bright is that\nit's in bright sunlight against an otherwise-dark sky.  Evidently Heinlein\ndidn't know that...","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nOf course there is.\n\nPerhaps the Vogons will put in a hyperspace bypass so that he can get there.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I get \"antsy\" about posts like this. Is the concern more for son or about ex-w\nife??? The standard impartial procedure is to ask for a second opinion\nabout son's condition.\nThen too, is son \"acting out\" games between divorced parents????\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nActually the company, and the product was ROVAC - which stood for\nROTary Air Conditioning..it used a rotary compressor with what\nwas effectively an air\/air heat exchanger, and worked pretty well.\nThe negatives were mostly that it was about 5-10% less efficient than\nusing freon, and noise problems from the high velocity\/pressure air,\nall of which were solved by the time the company went bankrupt.  It\nis still a legal entity in Florida, but I believe completely \"dead\"..\nand there's a heck of an opurtunity to buy up it's patents and restart\nthe operation...\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Dave Edmondson, on the Wed, 21 Apr 1993 12:05:41 GMT wibbled:\n: : kevinh, on the Tue, 20 Apr 1993 13:23:01 GMT wibbled:\n\n: Jonathan Quist bemoaned:\n\n: : : |> Yes, it's a minor blasphemy that U.S. companies would ?? on the likes \n: of A.M.,\n: : : |> Jaguar, or (sob) Lotus.  It's outright sacrilege for RR to have \n: non-British\n: : : |> ownership.  It's a fundamental thing\n\n: Lotus looks set for a management buyout. GM weren't happy that the Elan was \n: late and too pricey.  If they can write off the Elan development costs the may \n: be able to sell them for a sensible price.\n\n\n: : : I think there is a legal clause in the RR name, regardless of who owns it\n: : : it must be a British company\/owner - i.e. BA can sell the company but not\n: : : the name.\n\n: : : kevinh@hasler.ascom.ch\n\n: : I don't believe that BA have anything to do with RR.  It's a seperate\n: : company from the RR Aero-Engine company. \n\n: It's Vickers who own Rolls Royce cars. \n\n: And yes Kevin it is posts, Morgan use a sliding pillar front suspension.\n\n: Ob Bike (at long bleeding last): When will that Pettefar bloke get a mail \n: address so we can bung him on the Ogri list?\n\n: dave\n: --\n: David Edmondson                 davide@dcs.qmw.ac.uk\n: Queen Mary & Westfield College  DoD#0777 Guzzi Le Mans 1000\n: \"This means the end of the horse-drawn Zeppelin.\"\n\n\nWhat, you mean like the one in my bleedin' signature?!\n\nHELLO!\n\n--\n\nNick (the Connected Biker)   DoD 1069   Concise Oxford   Mail Address\n\nM'Lud.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Quebec dominated Habs for first 2 periods and only Roy kept\nthis one from being rout, although he did blow 2nd goal.\nCanadians showed up in third but Nords were playing dump &\npull back most of the time. Hextall made some good saves but\nreally this one was lost in first period when nords scored 3\n& could have had 5, plus another 4 in 2nd. Canadians are dead\nmeat, they may take one or 2 but this one is over. Tee it up\nJacques, next time you might rest players & forget about 1st\nplace, welcome to the Adams division.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\nI have an application which draws graphs, bar charts etc. I need to include\nprint support for these from within my application i.e. a user can print\nthe graphs from within the applictaion by clicking on a print button. I am \nnot sure if I can invoke xwd & xpr from within my application and specify\nthe window id to get my window dump and then send this file for printing or \nif there are other ways of doing this. I would appreciate any help in this \nregard. Thanx.\n\n\t- Mahendra.\n\nPS : Please mail your replies to me as I am not a regular reader of this \nnews group. I will post a summary if there is sufficient interest.\n\n-- ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"A friend, a 62 year old man, has calcium deposits on one of his\nheart valves .   What causes this to happen and what can be done about\nit?","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\nIt is the Serbs who were divided when Croatia and Bosnia-Hercegovina \nattempted to secede from Yugoslavia, ripping more than 2,000,000 Serbs\nand their property out of Yugoslavia.  \n\nThe Croatian and Muslim nations had the right to secede, not the Republics.\nAdditionally, the secessions were to be negotiated, which would probably\nhave required international mediation; instead the secessions were illegal,\nunilateral, and acts of war against Yugoslavia and those who did not\nwant to be ripped out of Yugoslavia by the secessions.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nDo you have a better e-mail address, Mr. Lurie?  I'm afraid I can't\nget the short version to work.\n\nIn any case, on Winfield.  Yes, his career BA is a mere .285.  He\ndidn't beat this until his sixth year in the majors, and has only\ntopped it once since 1988.  His peak was in the early '80s, and\nincluded some rather impressive seasons.  But then he's also had\nother scattered great performances (like 1988 and 1992).  Definitely\n*not* a smooth career curve!","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nActually, IFF is a *format standard*.  It is not a picture file format, sound\nfile format, but there exist several formats that use the IFF standard.  The\nIFF picture standard used by mostly everybody is a FORM ILBM (or just ILBM).\nThe only 3D IFF specification I know of is TDDD, which is used by Imagine and\nit's predecessor, Turbo Silver.   It is possible that some of the other Amiga\npackages use another *IFF* spec, but I don't know of any.  Lightwave will load\nTDDD FORM's I believe.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Newsgroup: sci.electronics\nFrom: martin.vuille@synapse.org\nSubject: PCMCIA\n\nDoes anyone know who to contact to obtain a copy of the PCMCIA standard?\n\nThanks\nMV","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Buffalo fans:\n\nSome people in the discussion group, as well as \"commentator Al\" on ESPN, \nbelieve that game 3 is critical for the Sabres.  HELLOOOO!!!!! The Sabres \nare AHEAD 2 games to 0, not behind.  As a life-long Sabres fan, I am well \naware of their ability to choke, but let's not exaggerate that.  As long as \nthe Sabres win one of the next 2 games (be it game 3 OR game 4), they are \nstill in good shape (ahead 3 games to 1), with game 6 to be played at \nBuffalo.  If they lose games three AND four, then start worrying.  Game 3 is \ncritical for Boston, not Buffalo.\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"ignore \n\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nThat wasn't my point. My point is that your implied position about the \"Waco\nMassacre\" is an assertion cum political position. According to a CNN poll,\nabout 86% of Americans think the FBI acted properly, and a majority think\nthey should have done it (the tear gas) a lot sooner. A large majority also\nbelieve the FBI was not at all responsible for the death of the victims,\nKoresh was. (Let's avoid the kind of fruitless argument of the sort If A\nhadn't X'd, then B might not have Y'd....)\n\nWhat you call the \"Big Brother Chip\" is right now a proposal under\ndiscussion, and it is not yet clear that strong crypto is going to be\nbanned.\n\nTherefore neither justifies \"any tactic is fair.\" Thus the statement is\nnonsense. It is pernicious, because \"any tactic\" can lead to damaging\nothers.\n\nAs I see you know from the tone of your reply, there's nothing personal\nintended.\n\nDavid","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nBut I believe that there is a fundamental difference here.  The other x\nthree instruments are focusing instruments, that, more or less, form\nan image, so positional errors are limited by craft attitude and the \nresolving power of the optics.  BATSE is an altogether different\nbeast, effectively just 8 coincidence counters, one on each corner of \nthe craft.  Positional information is triangulated from the \ndifferential signal arrival times at each of the detectors.\nPositional error would be predominantly determined by timing errors\nand errors in craft attitude. Since none of the 8 BASTE detectors have\nany independant angular resolution whatsoever, they can not be used to\ndetermine parallax.  Indeed, parallax would just add a very small \ncomponent to the positional error.  \n\nDemonstrating that these puppies are beyond the oort cloud would \nrequire resolution on the order of arcseconds, since the oort \ncloud is postulated to extend to about 0.5 parsec (all together \nnow: \"Parallax ARc SECond\", a parsec is the distance of an object \nthat demonstrates one arc second of parallax with a 2 AU base line).\nIf the 3 degree accuracy reported above is true, we're going to \nhave to add a BASTE to the pluto fast flyby to get enough baseline.\n\nThe beauty of BASTE is that it both gives positional information and\nwatches the entire sky simultaneously, a realy handy combination\nwhen you have no idea where the next burst is coming from.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Could someone give me some information on the cause, pathophysiology and \nclinical manifestations and treatment of this type of cancer.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\tI have to say I think this is the first time there has\nbeen something posted that opposed me without making personal\ninsults. Congradulations tim. I think the other people answered\nyou on most of the factual parts(esp. about the internal\nconflicts policy). \n\tIsrael very often gets away with more\nthan most other nations (Due to U.S. vetos). While I am not\nfamiliar with every instance I know that the reason Saudi\nArabia was not condemned for killig the pilgrims was that the\npilgrims were iranian. Yes, the UN is biased but mostly in\nfavor of the US and its allies (Including Israel, Saudi Arabia\nand Pakistan) and against \"Outlaw\" countries like iran and more\nrecently Iraq. Far be it from me to support the repressive\ngovernments there but I think they get more slack than Israel\nfor things they do \"wrong\". Again the reason some condemnations\ndon't occur lies in the race or country of the victims. The\ngassed Iraqi kurds got associated with Iran in the war and\nsince Iran was perceived as worse than Iraq no condemnation\nresulted. The palestinians killed by arab countries involved\nanother case of who cares. It seems that until very recently no\none cared about how many palestinians died anywhere (including\nin Israel and the occupied territories).\n\tAgain I appreciate the lack of personal insults.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\tSome TV's, including my RCA set at home, uses simple carriers\nwhich I think run between 32 and 36 or 38 KHz.  There is no tone decoding\nin it.  All one has to do to piss the thing off :-) is just hook an\nIRLED up to a variable oscillator and tune through.  Wreaks all kinds\nof havoc.  :-)\n\n\tSimilarly, my VCR remote changes channels on my cable box.  Always\nseems to change the cable box to channel 5 when you do the pause\/play.\n\n\tSOOOO, some things do have some overlap to them.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"A bright light phenomenon was observed in the Eastern Finland\n    on April 21. At 00.25 UT two people saw a bright, luminous\n    pillar-shaped phenomenon in the low eastern horizont near\n    Mikkeli. The head of the pillar was circular. The lower part\n    was a little winding. It was like a monster they told. They\n    were little frightened. Soon the yellowish pillar became\n    enlarged. A bright spot like the Sun was appeared in the middle\n    of the phenomenon. At last the light landed behind the nearby\n    forest. Now there was only luminous trails in the sky which were\n    visible till morning sunrise.\n\n    The same phenomenon was observed also by Jaakko Kokkonen in\n    Lappeenranta. At 00.26 UT he saw a luminous yellowish trail in\n    the low northeastern horizont. The altitude of the trail was\n    only about 3-4 degrees. Soon the trail began to grow taller.\n    A loop was appeared in the head of the trail. It was like a\n    spoon. This lasted only 10 seconds. Now the altitude was about\n    five degress above horizont. He noted a bright spot at the\n    upper stage of loop. The spot was at magnitude -2. The loop\n    became enlarged and the spot was now visible in the middle of\n    the loop. A cartwheel-shaped trail was appeared round the bright\n    spot. After a minute the spot disappeared and only fuzzy trails\n    were only visible in the low horizont. Luminous trails were still\n    visible at 01.45 UT in the morning sky.\n\n    The phenomenon was caused by a Russian rocket. I don't know if\n    there were satellite launches in Plesetsk Cosmodrome near\n    Arkhangelsk, but this may be a rocket experiment too. Since 1969\n    we have observed over 80 rocket phenomena in Finland. Most of\n    these are rocket experiments (military missile tests?), barium\n    experiments and other chemical releases. During these years we\n    have observed 17 satellite launches.\n\n    Leo Wikholm","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Have you ever noticed that after a hockey player has been interviewed\nin between periods on a tv game. That they usually get a goal or\nan assist. can you explain this or is it that they usually talk \nto stars more than regular players which explains the hight \npercentage of results after.\n\nJust wondering how everybody else thinks about this or if they dont \ncare about this trivial nonsense.\nttyl  Tom","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n   For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the\nbarrier, the dividing wall of hostility, \nEphesians 2:14\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n2) Hitting....Hawks tried to outmuscle Blues but could not do it.\nInstead, Blues matched Hawks hit for hit and crunched the shit out of\nthem in game #4.....Scud line, Shanahan, Butcher, and Zombo particularly\ntook turns bashing favorite targets like Chelios.\n\n3) Skating.....when the Hawks tried to outskate Blues, they could not do\nthat either.  Nelson Emerson finally showed up and skated circles around\nflat footed Chicago defense.....Hedican, Felsner, Ron Wilson and others\nalso proved that with old cement skaters like Goulet and Keith Brown,\nBlues could lap Chicago in a 400 M relay race.\n\n\n     I agree with #2 but you are wrong about #3.  In fact, the only\n     point where the Hawks in any way matched the Blues was when\n     they quit trying to outmuscle and instead tried to outskate\n     the Blues.  They scored and took the lead.  Too bad it was\n     Game 4 and they then took some stupid penalties.  When the\n     Hawks skated, they outskated the Blues and took control.\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":": \n: \tI am interrested in the extrodinarily simple concept of the null modem\n: cable. (Actually I have NO idea, so don't count that last statement.)  What I'm\n: asking is what pins does it use (or what are it's specifications?)  I just want\n: to solder one myself instead of buying one.  I don't even know what port is\n: used.\n: \n: Help me please (at ke_kimmell@vax.cns.muskingum.edu)\n: \n: Kevin\n: \n: p.s.  I'm intending to use the cable for PC-to-PC transfers (via Lap-Link or\n: Telix.  Ideas and info gladly accepted.)\n\nI do not have specific knowledge of Lap-Link or Telix, but my recommendation\nfor ANY package is to follow each one's instructions for making the null-\nmodem cable.  The reason is that each one may be different since there isn't\nreally a standard for PC to PC communications.  The following is a tutorial\nI wrote up that will give you an understanding about RS-232 and null modems,\nbut you should still check your software!\n\nI will eplain a couple of details of RS-232.  RS-232 is\na commumications specification for communicating between a computer and a\nmodem.  Actually it can be between any end system and any communications\nhardware.  The terminology used is Data Terminal Equipment (DTE) and DATA\nCommunications Equipment (DCE).  RS-232 spells out the voltage levels, the\nconnector type, the pinouts, and the signal protocols.  The connector is\na \"DB-25\" but IBM has set an alternative \"standard\" of DB-9.  The primary\nsignals are Transmit Data (TD), Recieve Data (RD), and Signal Ground (SG).\nThere are other signals that provide control between the DTE and the DCE.\nFor example, the DTE announces that it is powered up and ready to participate\nin communications via the Data Terminal Ready (DTR) signal.  DTR is an\noutput on the DTE and an input on the DCE.  Similarly, the DCE announces that\nit is ready to participate in communications via the Data Set Ready (DSR)\nsignal.  DSR is an input on the DTE and an output on the DCE.  Ok that's\nfive signals; there are only four more of interest.  The Request To Send (RTS)\nsignal is an output from the DTE (and an input to the DCE) that is used\nto ask the DCE permission to send data.  If the DCE agrees, it sends an ok\nvia the Clear To Send (CTS) signal.  (For completeness, the CTS is an input\nto the DTE and an output from the DCE).  The other two signals (of interest)\nare Ring Indicator (RI) and Data Carrier Detect (DCD).  These are both inputs\nto the DTE and outputs from the DCE.  RI is just what you would expect -\na signal to the DTE saying that someone is attempting to establish a connection\nto the DCE.  This is rather specific to the modem \/ telephone line setup.\nDCD is a way for the DCE to announce that the \"connection\" has been established\ni.e. the local DCE is talking to some remote DCE.  There - that's it.  Oh\nthere are many other RS-232 signals defined, but they are obsolete.  I have\nexplained the nine signals that are on a PC.  The pinouts are as follows:\n\nName    DB-9     DB-25\n SG       5        7\n TD       3        2\n RD       2        3\nDTR       4       20\nDSR       6        6\nDCD       1        8\nRTS       7        4\nCTS       8        5\n RI       9       22\n\nNow to address your problem at hand.  When you connect a PC to a PC (a DTE\nto a DTE), there is no DCE pair in the middle and therefore the RS-232\nsignal definitions don't work out quite right.  There is no DCE to assert\nthe CTS, DSR, DCD, or RI.  So the common thing to do is to not use these\nsignals at all - and also forget about the DTR and RTS outputs as well.  If\nthis is done you simply make a null modem (a cable) that passes through SG,\nand crosses TD and RD (i.e. pin 2 of one end connects to pin 3 at the other\nend, etc).  The problem with this solution is that a PC that wants to send\ndata has no way of knowing if the other PC is ready.  It would have to just\nsend the data and hope it got through.  Therefore a better null modem would\ninclude the DTR\/DSR pair crossed.  A particular point a confusion is in the\nsoftware area.  Just because you run the wires does not mean that the soft-\nware will use them.  If you are using the built-in BIOS to control the\nserial port, then the BIOS dictates what wires you need and how they are to\nbe used.  But if you have a comm. package such as Brooklyn Bridge, or Lap-\nLink or Telix, then those packages dictate the cabling requirements.  The\nonly thing you can guess reliably is the SG, TD, and RD.  The DTR\/DSR is also\nfairly common.  There is one more issue that needs to be addressed here.  And\nthat is flow control.  In the RS-232 scenerio, the DCE's are responsible for\nflow control and it is assumed that the DCE couldn't possible over-run the\nDTE.  By this I mean that as long as the DTE has its DTR line asserted, the\nDCE will send data - without requesting permission first.  Note the contrast\nto the other direction of data flow: the DTE must request permission by\nasserting the RTS line and it must wait for the CTS signal before it can\nsend.  And now in the DTE to DTE scenerio, the question is do you need flow\ncontrol?  The answser is usually.  But how?  For non-binary communications,\none common technique is XON - XOFF which is implemented in software - no\nwires are dedicated to flow control; the TD and RD carry the XON and XOFF\ncommands.  This type of flow control can be used in addition to hardware\nflow control, but the problem is that you can't send binary data because\nyour data might include the XON or XOFF codes and cause erroneous conrol\nsignals.  (A work around is to have the software insert and extract \"escape\"\ncodes, but the hardware flow control is prefered).  The problem with hard-\nware flow control is that there is no standard.  There are lots of ways to\ndo it and I bet they have all been tried.  One cornerstone of all the methods\nis to use the RTS\/CTS for one direction.  But beyond that anything is fair\ngame.  Again, you must look to you comm package for cabling requirements.\nBut I bet you'll find that one cable (if wired properly) could work with\nall of the packages as long as they are of the same vintage.  By the way,\nI am familiar with one package that uses RTS\/CTS and DTR\/DSR for flow control\nthe RTS is request to send and the DTR is ready to recieve, the CTS is the\nclear to send and the DSR is the request to recieve.  This does not mean a\ndiffernt cable - it is just software.  The clincher to all of this cabling\nstuff is that it is common to have the UART directly controlled by the CTS\nsignal which means that the CTS must be present even if you are not support-\ning it in software.  For these cases you will find cables that short the\nRTS to the CTS at the same end (or perhaps the DTR to the CTS).  Other\npossible shorting might be done just because the software expects certain\nsignals that you don't have (or don't feel like providing because it would\nmean additional wires).  Specifically I am talking about the DSR.  Shorting\nthe DTR to the DSR is not a good idea in general but you may find cables like\nthis.  It is a bad idea because it defeats the whole purpose.  One more\n\"gotcha\" signal is the DCD.  Some software (including the PC BIOS) expects to\nsee the DCD before it will work.  This signal sometimes gets shorted with the\nDTR.  But my favorite null modem has the RTS and CTS shorted at each end, but\nthe RTS is also connected through to the other end and connected to DCD.  And\nof course the DTR\/DSR are crossed as are the TD\/RD and of course the SG must\npass through.  This null modem works with most software.  The flow control,\nif any, can use the RTS\/DCD with the DTR\/DSR.  If your comm. package does not\nspecify the cable required for PC to PC connection, then I suggest you use\nthis one.\n\n    TD  ------  RD\n    RD  ------  TD\n    DTR ------ DSR\n    DSR ------ DTR\n    DCD ------ RTS-\\\n  \/-RTS ------ DCD |\n  \\-CTS        CTS-\/\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"[ There are actually some talk.abortion related comments below, believe it or\n  not... ]\n\n\nWell, if our observer X is as likely to be in A's position as B's, and if he\nagrees that both A and B are making appropriate observations and inferences\nregarding the situation, then I would expect him to conclude that there is no\nright answer.  Hopefully there would be some other factor which would allow\nhim to make some judgement regarding which answer to accept.\n\nIf, on the other hand, he disagrees with the principles of either A or B, I\nsuspect he would make a decision in favour of the other one.\n\nIt is unfortunately the case that not all moral arguments have answers from\nall perspectives.  For instance, I am completely unable to come to any\nconclusion regarding whether abortion should be allowed or not, from my\nperspective.  In an ideal world, all living things would have a right to\nlife; but in an ideal world, women would have the absolute right to do what\nthey like with their own bodies.  Clearly there is no way to resolve in\nfavour of both these principles.  Therefore I agree with the compromise\nsolution of allowing abortion up to a certain time after conception, and\ndeciding on the time based on various (sometimes ill-defined) criteria.  This\nis also a sensible move, I think, because it lets people make their own\ndecisions (within reason).  And for what it's worth, I am reasonably happy\nwith current UK abortion law.\n\nSimilarly, the situation in what's left of Yugoslavia is a horrible mess, and\nI really can't see my way to any sort of conclusion.  There, I don't even\nknow enough to imagine what sort of compromise one might manage.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Claude, I've not heard or read anything that would suggest that vitamin A(\nretinol) could reverse hearing loss due to nerve damage(usually caused by \nhigh sound levels, but also occassionally due to severe infection).  The \ntypes of cells that vitamin A regulates are the general epithelial cells \nand these cell types are not the ones that function in the ear hearing \nprocess.  The hair cell nerve-like epithelial cells in the ear may respond \nto vitamin A during cellular differentiation(embryogenesis) but I don't \nknow if they are still capable of responding in adults.  If they are \ncapable of responding with new hair growth, this would be a very major \nbreakthrough in hearing loss.  With all of the medical interest in vitamin \nA, it would not be too surprising if a clinical study was done using \nvitamin A to reverse hearing loss.  But with only a news announcement to go \non(and this type of communication is notoriously bad), I can't comment on \nyour question anymore than I already have.  If one study has been done, \nmore will need to follow to firm up a link between vitamin A and hearing \nloss if there really is one.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Having upgraded to a Supra 9600 Fax modem, my\nSupra 2400 Modem is for Sale at 50$ + S\/H. Approx 1.3 years old.\nExcellent working condition.\n\nsend email rosen@ringer.cs.utsa.edu, or call at 210-691-5696.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"es:\n\nA couple other problems with the 486DX\/50:\n\n1.)  System manufacturers had MAJOR problems solving the electromagnetic \ninterference problems with 486DX\/50 systems.  Getting an FCC-B (home use) \ncertification required additional shielding in the system.\n\n2.)  HEAT...a lot of people seem to be installing heat sinks and\/or cooling \nfans on their 486DX2\/66 chips.  I would guess that the 486DX\/50 ran \ntemperatures inside the case even hotter.  And heat is the enemy of system \nreliability.\n\nEd","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nIn the videos of the original BATF attack on the BD church, did anyone\nhappen to see BATF agents on the highest structure, where Koresh's\nroom was? I don't recall seeing BATF agents higher than the roof of the\nlowest structures, so I made an assumption that BATF helos did the\nfiring down into the tower. Any other info on how the rounds came\nthrough the roof?\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":": : I have 19 (2 MB worth!) uuencode'd GIF images contain charts outlining\n: : one of the many alternative Space Station designs being considered in\n: : Crystal City.  [...]\n\n: I just posted the GIF files out for anonymous FTP on server ics.uci.edu.\n: You can retrieve them from:\n:   ics.uci.edu:incoming\/geode01.gif\n:   ics.uci.edu:incoming\/geode02.gif\n:   ics.uci.edu:incoming\/geode03.gif\n:   ics.uci.edu:incoming\/geode04.gif\n:   ics.uci.edu:incoming\/geode05.gif\n:   ics.uci.edu:incoming\/geode06.gif\n:   ics.uci.edu:incoming\/geode07.gif\n:   ics.uci.edu:incoming\/geode08.gif\n:   ics.uci.edu:incoming\/geode09.gif\n:   ics.uci.edu:incoming\/geode10.gif\n:   ics.uci.edu:incoming\/geode11.gif\n:   ics.uci.edu:incoming\/geode12.gif\n:   ics.uci.edu:incoming\/geode13.gif\n:   ics.uci.edu:incoming\/geode14.gif\n:   ics.uci.edu:incoming\/geode15.gif\n:   ics.uci.edu:incoming\/geode16.gif\n:   ics.uci.edu:incoming\/geode17.gif\n:   ics.uci.edu:incoming\/geodeA.gif\n:   ics.uci.edu:incoming\/geodeB.gif\n\n: The last two are scanned color photos; the others are scanned briefing\n: charts.\n\n: These will be deleted by the ics.uci.edu system manager in a few days,\n: so now's the time to grab them if you're interested.  Sorry it took\n: me so long to get these out, but I was trying for the Ames server,\n: but it's out of space.\n\nBut now I need to clarify the situation.  The \"\/incoming\" directory on\nics.uci.edu does NOT allow you to do an \"ls\" command.  The files are\nthere (I just checked on 04\/28\/93 at 9:35 CDT), and you can \"get\" them\n(don't forget the \"binary\" mode!), but you can't \"ls\" in the\n\"\/incoming\" directory.\n\nA further update: Mark's design made the cover of Space News this week\nas one of the design alternatives which was rejected.  But he's still\nin there plugging.  I wish him luck -- using ET's as the basis of a\nSpace Station has been a good idea for a long time.\n\nMay the best design win.\n\n-- Ken Jenks, NASA\/JSC\/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office\n      kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov  (713) 483-4368","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Team Canada defeated Russia 3-1 to finish the priliminary \nround unbeaten at 5-0. Scoring for the Canadians were Kevin Dineen of \nthe Flyers, Eric Lindros also of the Flyers and Paul Cariya of the \nMaine Black Bears. Cariya has put on quite a show at the Worlds. He is \nsure to be drafted in the top 3 this summer at the NHL entry draft.\n\n\tCanada defeated Italy 11-2 and Austria 11-0 before meeting the \nRussians on Sunday. The Canadians now face Finland in the Quarter -\nfinals on Tuesday.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nThis is a fundamental aspect of Novell's business; they wouldn't be\nwhere they are if they didn't live up to their \"Novell Does Printing\"\nslogan.  We run 6 printers of varying types off our Novell network;\nI'm sure there are places with hundreds.\n\nRTFM on the CAPTURE command, PRINTCON, PSERVER, and the sections of\nthe Windows 3.1 manual which cover network printing.  If you haven't bought\nNovell's products yet, rephrase your question and look for information about\nhow *well* various competitors do printing.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Moving Sale\n~ Large table $25\n~ Four-drawer dresser $29\n~ Five-shelf book case $19\n~ Chair  $19\n~ 15-speed Bicycle (KHS brand) $69\n~ Microwave oven $59","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nHow quaint of you to point this out, and then to completely ignore\nall of the blatant lies you've trotted out. The scenario and genocide \nstaged by the Armenians 78 years ago in Eastern Anatolia and x-Soviet\nArmenia is being reenacted again - this time in Azerbaijan. There are \nremarkable similarities between the plots, the perpetrators, and the \nunderdogs. \n\nRemember, in article <2BAC262D.25249@news.service.uci.edu>, you have \nblatantly lied and still have not corrected yourself.\n\n\nI'll let the rest of the net judge this on its own merits.\n\nSource: 'The Sunday Times,' 1 March 1992 (a British Weekly, written by \n        Thomas Goltz, from Agdam, Azerbaijan.)\n\n    ARMENIAN SOLDIERS MASSACRE HUNDREDS OF FLEEING FAMILIES.\n\n    The spiralling  violence gripping the  outer republics of  the former\nSoviet Union gained new impetus  yesterday with cold-blooded slaughter of\nhundreds of women and children in war-racked Nagorno-Karabakh.\n    Survivors  reported that  Armenian soldiers  shot and  bayoneted more\nthan 450  Azeris, many of  them women and  children, who were  fleeing an\nattack  on their  town. Hundreds,  possibly thousands,  were missing  and\nfeared dead.\n    The attackers  killed most of  the soldiers and  volunteers defending\nthe women  and children.  They then  turned their  guns on  the terrified\nrefugees. The few  survivors later described what  happened:\" That's when\nthe real  slaughter began,\" said  Azer Hajiev,  one of three  soldiers to\nsurvive. \"The  Armenians just shot and  shot. And then they  came in and\nstarted carving up people with their bayonets and knives.\"\n    \" They were shooting, shooting, shooting\", echoed Rasia Aslanova, who\narrived in Agdam with other women and children who made their way through\nArmenian lines. She said her husband, Kayun, and a son-in-law were killed\nin front of her. Her daughter was still missing.\n    One boy who arrived in Agdam had an ear sliced off.\n\n    The survivors  said 2000  others, some of  whom had  fled separately,\nwere still missing in the gruelling terrain; many could perish from their\nwounds or the cold.\n    By late  yesterday, 479 deaths had  been registered at the  morgue in\nAgdam's morgue,  and 29 bodies  had been buried  in the cemetery.  Of the\nseven corpses  I saw awaiting  burial, two  were children and  three were\nwomen, one shot through the chest at point blank range.\n    Agdam hospital was  a scene of carnage and terror.  Doctors said they\nhad 140 patients who escaped slaughter, most with bullet injuries or deep\nstab wounds.\n    Nor were they safe in Agdam. On friday night rockets fell on the city\nwhich  has a  population  of 150,000,  destroying  several buildings  and\nkilling one person.\n\nNow wait, there is more.\n\n           IT'S INHUMANE TO IGNORE THIS VIOLENCE\n\nThe stories of survivors of Karabag massacre:\n\n69 year old Hatin Nine telling:\n\n-''My Twin grandchildren were cut to pieces in front of my eyes. They told\nme: We won't kill you. But the babies have to die in front of your eyes.''\n\n72 year old Huseyin Ibrahimoglu:\n\n- ''Our Turkish village in Khojalu Town was blown up in two hours.\n  Turks, you must die.''\n\n28 year old Gulsum Huseyin:\n\n- ''They bayonetted my 3 year old daughter in her stomach in front of\n    my eyes.''\n\nAre these stories lies? Have the eye-witnesses been day-dreaming?\nWere these stories forged by Turkish journalists in the region?\n\nThe nonsense of such a claim is clear from the writings of British\nJournalists, too. Two days before we had quoted from a Sunday Times\narticle. They[British] reported the events in Karabag even before\nTurkish journalists. What is more here are the pictures. Pictures\nof people who were bayonetted, whose eyes were gouged, ears cut off.\n\nEven the Armenian Radio couldn't claim these \"lies.\" They are saying\n\"exaggeration.\" That means ''somethings'' have happened but the\nsituation is not as bad as reported. Perhaps that village of Khojalu\ntown was destroyed in 4 hours, instead of 2... Or Gulsum Huseyin's\n3 year old daughter was bayonetted in her chest instead of stomach...\n\nThe massacre is clearly seen with all its dimensions. The effects of\nthis massacre on Karabag and environs cannot be reduced by any word.\n\nSome of the western press', led by some French Newspapers, ability\nto ''close their eyes'' is nothing but complicity in this massacre.\n\nYesterday we gave samples from Le Figaro. Until yesterday's print\nno news about the real events in Karabag were printed. So were the\nFrench TV channels.. The subject they considered related to Karabag\nwas ''The necessity of protecting Armenians against Azeri attacks.''\n\nThe age we are living in is termed a human rights age. There are lots\nof organizations such as United Nations and CSCE(Conference on Security\nand Cooperation in Europe), and rules, all designed to fight against human\nrights violations. International reactions must be made with international\ncooperation. With support of everybody and every organization claiming\nto be civilized.\n\nCould there be a more serious human rights violation than that of the\nright to live -and with such levels of barbarity and cruelty-? Where\nis the cooperation? Where are the reactions? And the intellectuals,\njournalists, writers, TV stations of certain western countries such\nas France who are fast to claim leadership of \"human rights?\"\nWhere are you?\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nIf you believe that, I have a nice piece for swamp for you for RE\ndevelopment.  Microsoft does even its techpubs under Windows.\n\n\nThat wasn't Geo Works, was it?  :-)\n\n\nNonsense.  Sorry, I make fun of Windows all the time, but the above is\nsimply a myth.  Tell that to Microsoft, Novell and others who dominate\nthe market.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"        A 'multi-line cleartext bridge?\"\n                      ^^^^^^^^^\n        And just were would you put that bridge?  If it isn't at one of\nthe receiptants location, forget encryption at all.  You have blown any\nsecurity you thought you might have had. ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Ivan D. Reid, on the 23 Apr 1993 06:05 PST wibbled:\n: In article <1993Apr23.121316.1564@news.columbia.edu>, Rob Castro writes...\n: >When\/How do you decide that it is too windy to ride?\n\n: \tWhen even the seagulls are walking.   :-)\n\n: Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     \t\t\tivan@cvax.psi.ch\n: GSX600F, RG250WD.\tSI=2.66     \"You Porsche. Me pass!\"\tDoD #484\n\nWhen you can make no headway into the wind?\n\nWhen you hear a dull booming noise after going down hill with the\nwind behind you and you're WFO.  \n\nBe very careful during the above, as all the controls will have the \nopposite effect.\n--\n\nNick (the Mach 0.22 Biker)   DoD 1069   Concise Oxford\n\nM'Lud.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I am planning a weekend in Chicago next month for my first live-and-in-person \nCubs game (!!!) I would appreciate any advice from locals or used-to-be locals \non where to stay, what to see, where to dine, etc.\n\nE-mail replies are fine...\n\nThanks in advance!\nTeresa","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nI think that's an insightful comment.   Especially when at the\nsame time we have people like Bill \"Projector\" Conner complaining\nthat we are posting parodies.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\nActually, this was a school in England.  This same biology teacher also\ntold me that the reason that stars twinkle is that the small spot of\nlight on the retina sometimes falls between the light recepive cells.\nSo his info was suspect from the start.  ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"*********  Sega Genesis + Sega CD Forsale   *******\n\n\tRecently moved in with some friends who have genesis + Cd player so I'm selling my whole setup.  I'd like to sell everything together.  The package come with....\n\nSega Genesis\nSega CD\n2 Joysticks\n1 Pad\nSewer Shark (CD)  \nSol-Feace (CD)\nSega Classics (CD) (5 Games on 1 CD)\n\tStreets of Rage\n\tRevenge of Shinobi\n\tColumns\n\tGolden Axe\nSherlock Holmes (CD)\nCD+G Music + graphics sampler\nJohn Madden 92' (Cart)\n\n\tAll the games have cases and instructions and everything is in great condition.  I would really like to get $350 for all this stuff.  The Sega CD alone is worth $299.  Please email responses to jth@bach.udel.edu\n\n******** I'm dropping the price to $325.  If I can't get that much then I won't sell it.*********\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nGee, how about an (ahem) \"accelerometer\"! Such devices are available from\na variety of sources (one that comes to mind is Bruel & Kjaer if you have\na lot of money to spend). MOst of these sorts of devices output a voltage\nproportional to acceleration. You need to know what range you're talking\nabout though.\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nWhich number is that?  Zero?\n\nPlease present \"a number\" of authoritative works which \"suggest\"\nthat \"homosexuality is a form of mental disorder, caused by\nchildhood sexual abuse.\"\n\nDon't present your own biased conclusions, based on a collage\nof tidbits you've extracted from a few hours' research, as the\nconclusions of people who study mental disease and sexual abuse\nprofessionally.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Would someone be kind enought to document the exact\nnature of the evidence against the BD's without reference to\nhearsay or newsreports. I would also like to know more about\ntheir past record etc. but again based on solid not media\nreports. \n\n\tMy reason for asking for such evidence is that last night\non Larry King Live a so-called \"cult-expert\" was interviewed from\nAustralia who claimed that it was his evidence which led to the\noriginal raid. This admission, if true, raises the nasty\npossibility that the Government acted in good faith, which I\nbelieve they did, on faulty evidence. It also raises the\npossibility that other self proclaimed cult experts were advising\nthem and giving ver poor advice.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I have for sale the following:\n\n\tHewlett Packard 500 Deskjet\n\t4 Additional Deskjet Ink Cartridges\n\t8 ft. Parallel Printer Cable\n\nThe printer is approx. 2 years old (7 months of use, and then a year\nin storage during my relocation from Illinois to Columbus) and\nin excellent condition. All original manuals, and boxes are included.\nThe selling price is $325.00 for the entire package. Unwilling to \nbreak it up because what good would cartridges do me without a printer.\n\nIf interested call either (614) 860-2144 or (614) 771-8861. You can also\nrespond via e-mail.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\tSeveral ways are available -- pageview (which I think came\nwith our system, so I can't point), ghostview (with ghostscript), and\nthe new xv 3.00 package all do so.  I recommend the latter two,\nespecially xv if you want to do any conversion.\n\n\tI'm not sure offhand, but I will attempt to mail you the\ncomp.lang.postscript FAQ, which has a list of utilities.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n1. You haven't shown any disproportionate involvement.\n\n2. The Janus Report, which came out recently, gives 9% as the percentage\nof exclusively or predominantly gay men.\n\n3. No one is presumably going to say they're gay if they're not. But\nsome no doubt are going to hide their homosexuality in surveys. Thus\nthe 1-2% is a lower limit.\n\nI still say that weighing all the evidence gives a most likely percentage\nbetween 5 and 7%.\n\nBrian","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Pioneer VSX-501 Audio\/Video Receiver\n\n-Dolby Pro Logic Surround, 3CH Logic\n-Studio and Simulated Surround Playback\n-Video Signal Selector (Simulcast function)\n-Two-way VCR Copying and Monitoring\n-Acoustic Memory Function\n-Custom Memory Function\n-Sleep Timer\n-Multi-Room Remote Jack\n-AV Remote Control Unit\n\nLess than one year old. Excellent shape. $300 firm.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Alison J Wyld wrote to All:\n\n AJW> Does anyone know of an English language edition that does not show the\n AJW> verse (or even chapter) numbers.\n\n[...]\n\n clh> [The original NEB put verse numbers only in the margin   [...]\n\nKenneth Wuest's expanded translation of the New Testament does the same - it puts the range of verse numbers next to the top of each paragraph. Being an expanded translation it is quite verbose though - more suitable for detailed study than for quick reading.\n\nMike\n\n--- GoldED 2.41","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nThis is not at all comparable. Christianity is the main stream in\nwestern culture. You are trivializing the experiences of others.\n\nI remember what it was like being \"different\" as a Christian. We\nwere told all the time that we were different, and in fact that\nonly members of the our church were really Christians (though others\nwho believed in God weren't as bad as atheists), so we were a small\nminority. That was nothing compared to being an atheist.\n\nThe only thing comparable would be a young child being Christian\nbeing surrounded by staunch atheists, including parents, who\nactively persecute any religious tendancies - both actual punishments\nand, even worse, emotional blackmail. They would also have\nto have the whole mainstream society on their side. Maybe these\nconditions could have occured in the old Soviet Union* not in a\ncountry with \"under God\" in its pledge of allegiance.\n\n* I doubt it even then, because children have to be taught to be\nChristians and hence must have support somewhere.\n\n\nYes. My atheism was \"born of necessity.\" For an intellectually honest\nperson belief is mostly a response to evidence. Will or wishes have\nnothing to do with it. I could choose to lie, or to be silent about\nmy true beliefs. I could no more choose to believe in the God of\nChristianity than I could decide that the ordinary sky looks red to\nme. Still I should be clear that I'm not equating what I went through\nwith what gays go through. However it is a mistake to assume that\neveryone who goes through painful experiences are broken by them.\nHappily some are made stronger, once we get past it.\n\n\nNot without going to details and violating the confidences of some of my\nchildhood friends. Suffice it say to that religion does not guarantee\nthat a person will be happy and strong emotionally, and a repressive\nupbringing can leave its scars even, or especially, on those who don't\nget free of it. I doubt that any sane and sincere person doubts that and\nI feel no need to defend it.\n\nBy the way I am much happier and stronger being out of the closet. In\nthe end it has been, as someone eloquently put it in private email, an\nexperience of liberation rather than disillusion.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nIsn't that one of those self-evident things like, \"how do you decide that\nyou're out of gas\"?\n\nI have never experienced wind so severe it physically precluded operation\nof a motorcycle.  It's more a matter of deciding whether the aggravation\nis more trouble than it's worth.  This of course, depends entirely on your\nown particular circumstances and personal disposition.\n\n\n\n-- ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"@> \tA few things about the University. It is more fun than some may\n@> admit. Partying does go on and it has consistently been ranked\n@> one of Playboy's top party schools. ...","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nSame old bullshit. Not being given to delusions and wishful thinking\nI do not have the option of either loving or obeying that which I have\nso reason to believe.\n\n\nMore bullshit. I assure you in my misguided youth I made a sincere effort.\nIt was very painful being a rational person raised in Christian home.\nMany others could tell the same story. You choose not to believe anyone's\nexperience which contradicts your smug theories.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n[stuff about hardware keys]\n\n\nTrue, which is why many of the newer keys ship out, oh, maybe 32 bits or\nso, have the key encrypt them, and return them to the PC.  Making a bunch\nof these 32 bits part of your program code is a good way to make sure\nthings won't run without the key. :-)  Anyway, then, this scheme at least\ndefeats your approach.  It's a little costly, though.\n\nPersonally, I don't believe in copy protection, and agree with the thought\nthat the mass inconvenience that it causes all legal users far outweighs\nthe gains from what few pirates won't be able to copy the program.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Kent Sandvik and Jon Livesey made essentially the same response, so this\ntime Kent's article gets the reply:\n\n\nThis begs the question of whether it ever \"started\"-- perhaps because\naccuracy was always an intention.\n\n\nIt makes little difference if you have eyewitnesses or people one step away\n(reporters, if you will).  As I said earlier, the \"telephone\" metaphor is\ninnately bad, because the purpose of a game of telephone is contrary to the\naims of writing these sorts of texts.  (Also, I would point out that, by the\nstandards generally asserted in this group, the distinction between\neyewitnesses and others is hollow, since nobody can be shown to be an\neyewitness, or indeed, even shown to be the author of the text.)\n\nThere is no evidence that the \"original\" texts of either the OT or the NT\nare largely lost over time in a sea of errors, \"corrections\", additions and\ndeletions.  In the case of the NT, the evidence is strongly in the other\ndirection: the Textus R. and the Nestle-Aland text do not differ on more\nthan a low level of significance.  It is reasonable to assume a similar\nsituation for the OT, based on the NT as a model.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"If you had free reign to design your own instrument cluster, which\ngauges would you choose to have beyond the basic set?\n\nI consider the basic set to be:\n\n\t- tach\n\n\t- coolant temp (or cylinder head temp for air-cooled engines)\n\t- oil pressure\n\t- amps\n\n\t- speedo\n\t- fuel\n\nothers that are nice to have:\n\n\t- volts (maybe this should be in the basic set)\n\t- vacuum\/boost\n\nI can think of a few others, but what are your ideas and why?","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nMuslims already have, they accepted the Vance Owen plan that gives\n50% of the population (Serbian statistics put it at 44%) only 25%\nof the territory. They gave some totally Muslim villages and areas\nto Croatia and Serbia, they in effect gave the Serbs the land they grabbed \nwhile slaughtering the Muslims anbd raping their women and expelling\nthe survivors.\n\nStill the Serbs (NOT BOSNIAN SERBS because the real Bosnian Serbs are\nfighting with Muslims to defend Bosnia from Serbs, those so called \nBosnian Serbs refused to be part of Bosnia and wanted a greater Serbia),\nstill those Serbs refused, they have the necessary weapons to kill\nmore Muslims and grab more territory.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I'd say the subject line about covers it.   I need a MC68881 Floating point\n  Co-processor for my SUN 3 system.  Please reply via Email if you've got one\n  of these thingies that you'ld like to sell me.\n\n  Thanks.\n-- \n   ----------------------------------------------------------------\n  |     Paul L. Moreau          |       Storage Concepts Inc.      |\n  |   Sr. Diagnostics Eng.      |          1622 Deere Ave          |\n  | Email:  paulm@storcon.com   |        Irvine, CA.  92714        |\n  | Uucp:   ..!storcon!paulm    | (714)852-8511, Fax (714)557-5064 |","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\ndead? I saw David Koresh at a local 7-11......\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nIf you _know_ that the number is \"so high\", would you care to provide it?  \nTo tell you the truth, Hamid, most of those killed by the Israeli Army were\nagressors who were invading or attacking Israel with the intention of murdering\nJews and destroying the Jewish State.  Thus, I have no sympathy for them and\nI really don't give a damn about how many were killed.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nThere are a number of inaccuracies here:\n1) In fact, a colder battery will self-discharge more slowly.  This is why\n   batteries should be stored in a COOL, dry place.\n2) An battery placed on concrete does not become colder than one placed\n   on wood.  The battery, the wood, and the concrete will all be at the\n   same general temperature (ignoring temperature fluctuations) and thus\n   none will effect the other.\n\n\nThere is no need to 'exercise' the battery.  Just keep it charged.  (A trickle\ncharger will do the job.)","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"{Gladman Aviv} said\n   \"Re: Blue LED's\"\n      to <All> on 04-24-93  01:51\n\n GA> In order to emit blue light, a semiconductor must have a band gap\n GA> energy within the region of 2.6 to 2.8 electron Volts. According to my\n GA> physical electronics prof, you can't get an LED with that band gap.\n GA> That's why you don't find blue LEDs or, for that matter, some other\n GA> colour of LEDs. That is not to say that blue LEDs can't be found.  I've\n GA> seen 'blue' LEDs sold, but they were just your typical visible light\n GA> LED in a blue plastic covering. They didn't emit very much light...\n\n    This is not true they have and do make blue LED's they are\n    about 2.80 in digikey. 470nm wavelength by the way\n\n                Stephen Cyberman@Toz.Buffalo.NY.US\n             Mangled on Sun  04-25-1993  at 13:33:46","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Deletions...\n\nCorrection.  I think it was 1978.  Also, contrary to earlier belief, it\nis now widely accepted that not all committed suicide, but were actually\nkilled.  In the end, they did die for a lie, but some not out of\nconviction alone.  Thought I try to make this point clear.\n-- ","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
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{"text":"Hi all,\n\nHas anyone heard of this board? It's a \n486DX2-33\/66. \n\nIf so, does anyone know if it will work\nwith BSD or Linux?\n\nA local PC vendor has this.  He says it's a U.S.\nbrand.\n\nPlease e-mail if possible.\n\nThanks,\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nWhoa there!  Lighten up, Andrew!  When I was referring to \"you dorks at\nthe Western Business School\", I was specifically referring to those\nassholes writing obnoxious comments insulting the state and people of\nMinnesota for no apparent reason.  Being Canadian, and one who has\nfriends who attended UWO, I personally don't want to be associated with\nthe idiots who wrote those messages.  One more thing, Andrew...until\nthis season, the Leafs have sucked pretty badly over the last umpteen\nyears (have they won the Cup during our lifetime?)...so the North Stars\nhaven't been the only \"shit\" team in the Norris.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Acetone will likely damage the carpet. First solvent to try is denatured\nalcohol. Do not waste your time with rubbing alcohol. You can use methyl\nalcohol instead of denatured alcohol. If you want to have a cocktail while\nyou are removing the goo, use pure grain alcohol :-). If the alcohol does\nnot work try carbon tetrachloride. If neither of these work you may need to\ntry a stronger solvent, but the alcohol works for most adhesives. Good luck.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Any Tcpview-for-Sun users out there?  I pulled down the pre-compiled\nexecutables made for Sun for Tcpview, but I'm getting a whole slew of the\nfollowing types of error messages when I try to start it up:\n  Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfActivate\n  Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfActivate:ManagerParentActivate()'\n  Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfCancel\n  Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfCancel:ManagerParentCancel()'\n  Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfSelect\n  Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfSelect:ManagerGadgetSelect()'\n  ...\nBut I *know* I have those in my keysym:\n  egrep \"osfActivate|osfCancel|osfSelect\" $OPENWINHOME\/lib\/XKeysymDB\nyields:\n  osfActivate             :1004FF44\n  osfSelect               :1004FF60\n  osfCancel               :1004FF69\n  osfSelectAll            :1004FF71\nand, if I take *out* the osf lines from said XKeysymDB, my copy of wscrawl\n(another Motif-compiled-for-Sun program) gives the same type of complaints\nas listed above.\n\nAny tips?  I'm mystified.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Hi -- sorry if this is a FAQ, but are there any conversion utilities\navailable for Autodesk *.DXF to Amiga *.IFF format?  I\nchecked the comp.graphics FAQ and a number of sites, but so far\nno banana.  Please e-mail.\n\nThanks.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I have 9 of these mice which are just taking up space in my\noffice.  Please buy them.  The price is only $11 and it\nwill only cost you 2.90 to ship USPS if you prepay.\nHere is all I know about them:\nMice 2-button high resolution 400cpi \n\nThe mice are acutally quite comfortable, much like the new\nhp ergo mouse.  Snugs the hand.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Double speed performance from a CD drive does not require SCSI-2 interfacing.\nThe resultant 300 kbps speed is well within the transfer rate of an LC. In\nother words, I believe you have been given incorrect information.\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
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{"text":"\n   This is such Bullshit.  Deir Yassin was an unprovoked attack on\n   the part of the Jews, and a massacre defines it best in my\n   opinion.  The village of Deir Yassin had had a pact with the\n   Jews, a peace pact, but the Irgun purposely broke this\n   agreement in order to scare off the Palestinians.  I might\n   grant that this village housed armed Arabs [I doubt it] but\n   nothing in the archives and available literature indicates that\n   this was a motivating force amongst the Irgun.  The Deir Yassin\n   MASSACRE was part of an over all strategy to intimidate the\n   Palestinians to flee the Jewish Homeland.,...and contrary to\n   your belief, many civilians were killed.  Deir Yassin was later\n   advertized by the very Jews who perpetrated it because it was\n   useful in getting many Palestinians to leave.  The Palestinians\n   were rightfully scared off, because they did not want another\n   Deir Yassin.  \n\t   I'm not necessarily condemning the Israelites here;\n   atrocities were aslo committed on the part of the Arabs.\n   Israelophiles should just be careful in thinking that they are\n   and were the good guys in the middle east.  Both Arab and Jew\n   suck equally.\n\nrj3s, you say that there is no evidence that what motivated the Irgun\nto attack Dir Yassin was its strategic importance. In fact, Begin,\nwho was in charge of the Irgun, wrote that Dir Yassin was attacked for\nits military significance.\n\nDir Yassin was merely a battle in the War of Liberation. People died.\nBut the thing was never intended to be a masacre. That this hapenned\nis a tragedy of war - not a crime of the Irgun.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I know that I've seen this question asked before, but I don't remember\nseeing any answers..So here it is again:\n\n     Does any one know of an ftp site where the WD90C31 driver might reside?\nI've checked cica, and I'm sure it's not there (I'm refering to the new\nversion of the driver that came out in 2(?)\/93).  I have seen it on c-serve,\nbut I hesitate to d\/l 1 meg. at 2400 bps unless I really have to!\n     Alternativly, is it possible to get Paradise (or WD) to mail me the new\ndrivers, or don't they do that.\n\n     Finally, is it even worth the hassle of getting these things, or is\nthere not much improvement over my 10\/92 version?\n\n                             Thanks for the info,\n                                    Peter\n-- ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
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{"text":"ABOLISH CULTS!","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nI wonder where you have been getting your mis-information from. Straight\nfrom the BATF itself?\n\nKoresh and his followers did not -capture- the compound a few years ago, it\nhas always been theirs. A few years ago their was an argument over who should\nlead the group, a gunfight erupted *one* person died. Koresh was charged\nwith the murder. When the sheriff came to arrest him, the sheriff knocked\non the dorr and showed Koresh the warrant (a tactic that the BATF might try\nlearning). Koresh and the others charged peacibly surrendered to the sherrif.\nA trial ensued, the others were found innocent, and the jury hung on Koresh's\ncharge.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I have the following prerecorded VHS tapes for sale. All are in\ngreat shape and are being sold since I have replaced all of them\nwith laserdiscs:\n \n     Star Wars\n     The Empire Strikes Back\n     Return of the Jedi\n     Batman\n     Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom\n     Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade\n     E.T.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nDoesn't MS do the same? (I.e., subsidize app development)\n\nI seem to remember someone at RPI who received an entire (expensive, to run\nNT) machine to develop for NT.  Free.  And that's just the small fry...","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"REPOST:\n\nI have two questions (well probably more...) about how Expose & Configure\nevents are handled.\n\nI have an appl. which uses 1 window to draw in.  Since I give the user the\ncapability of scaling and zooming as well as allowing the window to be\nresized, I made a translation table for the Expose & Configure events.\nThe Expose event calls my redraw method while the Configure event\ncalls my rescale method.  The rescale method invokes a \"fake\" Expose\nevent (actually just calls the redraw w\/ an appropriate Expose struct)\nto draw the data.\n\nQuest 1.\nWhen the appl. is compiled\/linked w\/ R4 (running in either R4 or R5 env.)\nI get multiple (>4) redraws when the window gets uncovered or the size\nis changed.  I assume I'm getting cascading events.  Is that right?\nAny suggestions as to how to handle\/trap events in a better way?\n\nQuest 2.\nWhen the appl. is compiled\/linked w\/ R5 I get no Expose events\nwhatsoever.  Do events and\/or translation tables act differently in R5?\n\nThanks in advance\n\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"t\n\n\nThe original poster never said they were afraid of King because he was\nblack.  In fact the officers were afraid of King because of WHAT HE DID,\nnot because OF THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN.  It is you, Mr. Frank that read the\nphrase \"large black man\" and cried racism in a typical knee-jerk fashion.\nWhen you (and others, I suspect) can get past this problem maybe the real\nproblems in this issue can be discussed.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nThe problem is that this will also cause  \"a certain amount of interference\"\nin *all* systems within the range of the device.  A long time ago I built a\nsmall jammer to dissuade my brother from using his radio alarm clock at \nsomething like 4am, which had just enough range to cover my room and his.\nHowever something powerful enough to mask all (or at least most) emissions from\nyour computer equipment is also going to knock out half your neighbourhoods\nradio and TV reception.  This isn't going to make you many friends.\n\nIncidentally, an older-model TRS80 makes a fine wideband jammer <grin>\n\nPeter.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nYes, there are these two senses of interpretation, and certainly our\ndecision to accept Scripture as inspired ultimately rests on our own\nprivate opinion.  However, when reading Scripture, we have to remember\nthat the Scriptures were given by God for our instruction, and that\nthe interpretation that matters is the one God intended.  For example,\nif I decide that the fact that John the Baptist is Elijah teaches the\ndoctrine of reincarnation, I am wrong because that is not the intended\ninterpretation.  The prophets didn't make up this teaching; it came\nfrom God, and we must accept it as such.  This necessarily means that\nour private interpretations must take a back seat to the meaning God\nintended to convey.  Certainly we must rely on our best efforts to\ndetermine what this meaning is, but this very fact should make us\nrecognize that our private interpretations cannot be automatically\naccepted as the infallible interpretation of God.  We need to test the\nspirits to see if they are from God.  When the Holy Spirit speaks, he\nsays the same thing to all; he won't tell me that a passage means one\nthing and tell you it means another.  If the two of us come to\nconflicting conclusions, we can't both be completely right.  We know\nour interpretations are reliable only when the Church as a whole\nagrees on what Scripture means.  This is how we know the doctrines of\nthe Trinity, the dual nature of Christ, etc. infallibly.  These\nmatters are not up for private interpretation.\n\nThis is the reason Peter goes on to talk about the deceptiveness of\nthe false teachers.  They preferred their own private interpretation\nto the God-given teaching of the apostles.  It is through such private\ninterpretation that the traditions of men, so soundly denounced in\nScripture, are started.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\nCan somebody tell me what kind of MOV's are most useful for a computer\nsurge protector?  Radio Shack have 2 types, both rated 130V, one for\na 10A current and the other for 20A.  On the other hand, commercial surge\nprotectors I have seen claim a clamping voltage of 330V-400V, which SEEMS to\nme in imply a rated voltage of about 250V (250V * SQRT(2.)=353).\n\nWhat is the right kind?\n\nWhile at it, ow important is really the EMI\/RFI module?  Is there really any\nnoticable level of such noise in the power line?\n\nPlease-  E-MAIL to me, as this group has too much volume for me to be able\nto follow.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"==========================================================================\n  Yes, we do have a beautiful country. And I enjoy it.  Most of all, I\n  enjoy the thought that I have the means and can exercise my rights\n  to defend me and mine. \n \n  And I want to thank all of you good folks, like Prescod, who remind me\n  of what I have.  Along this line, I watched a documentary on one of the\n  Nazi concentration camps.  Stacks and stacks of bodies.  There were scenes\n  of Hitler speechifying, and what struck me, was the reverence and adoration\n  on the faces of the people in the crowds.  I guess they were happy that\n  Hitler had implemented full gun control and was taking care of the Jewish\n  problem all at the same time.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nI doubt if Koresh had let the BATF have a look inside his place as they \nintended to do, \"orchestrated character assassination, noise torture, and\na holocaust\" would never have come to pass.\n\nThe BD's killed members of the BATF on the first day. \"Orchestrated character\nassassination and noise torture\" seem like a small retribution.  The use\nof tanks is quesionable however.\n\n\n\n--Abhijit","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nWell that may be true.  However, the man page for pageview for OW 2.0\ndoes not mention about DSC compliance.  In any event, the point here\nis that if you try to display some PS files using pageview you will\nfind out that it's not a practical tool.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nThey also have a lot of the other voters really irritated at them.\n\n\nOkay, folks, I know I'm in the minority on this issue, but I can't\nlet this assertion go unchallenged yet again.  I'm going to say this\nONLY ONCE, in the hopes of NOT starting a flame war off of the main\ntopic.\n\nGuns are offensive.  Cryptography is defensive.  See the difference?\nThe only way you can use a gun is to hurt somebody else.  Crypto-\ngraphy helps prevent other people from hurting you.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nEither A: God exists, or B: He doesn't.  We have two choices, either\n1: Believe in God, or 2: Don't believe in God.  If A is true, then 2\nbrings eternal damnation, whereas 1 brings eternal life.  If B is\ntrue, then 1 has minor inconvenience compared with 2.  Thus, it is\nrational to believe in God.\n\nThis has numerous flaws, covered in the FAQ for alt.atheism, amongst\nother places.\n\n\n\nDisillusionment strikes me as an excellent reason for stopping\nbelieving in something.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Greetings!\n\n            I have 2 sets of plugs for your oscilloscope or function\n      hooks.  \n             I also have 2 sets of probes.  They have multipliers\n      of x1 and x10.  There is also an REF switch.  \n\n             All these probes and plugs are in excellent conditions.\n\n             If interested, please make me an offer.  I will respond\n      to your replies by Wed.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":" \n \nNo wonder that we don't see any detail for this claim. It is good to\nremember that you have answered the statement that you are a theist\nby another correspondent with that you are not a member of a denomination.\nIt is either stupidity or an attempt at a trick answer. Not unlike the\nrest of your arguments.\n \n \n \nI am extremely wary of the way you use words. Like in this case, there\nare broader definitions of gods used by persons who are considered by\nthemselves and others theists. I have pointed to that in my post. You\nuse one of them.\n \nYour use of definitions seems to rest on the assumption: because my\nmoral is objective\/absolute or the other buzz words you are so fond\nof, everybody will know it, and there is no need to define it more\nexactly.\n \nAnd as a user has shown recently, the easiest way to dispell you is\nto ask you for definitions.\n \n ","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\tPersonally, I think it was Mrs. O'Leary's cow that knocked over that\nlantern...\n\n:*)","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nI am not familiar with, or knowledgeable about the original language,\nbut I believe there is a word for \"idol\" and that the translator\nwould have used the word \"idol\" instead of \"graven image\" had\nthe original said \"idol.\"  So I think you're wrong here, but\nthen again I could be too.  I just suggesting a way to determine\nwhether the interpretation you offer is correct.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nI don't see any way that the concrete floor could do anything to the\nbattery.\n\nHowever, you would have been better off leaving them outside. Keeping\nthem cold would have been better for them than bringing them inside.\nA warm battery will self-discharge faster than a cold one.\n\nWhen you are storing a battery it's a good idea to charge it once a month.\nLetting a battery go completely dead is bad for it (I suspect this is\nwhat caused your problems).\n\n-- ","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"KS> This is the story of Kent, the archetype Finn, that lives in the \nKS> Bay Area, and tried to purchase Thomas Paine's \"Age of Reason\". This\nKS> man was driving around, to Staceys, to Books Inc, to \"Well, Cleanlighted\nKS> Place\", to Daltons, to various other places.\n\nKS> When he asked for this book, the well educated American book store\nKS> assistants in most placed asked him to check out the thriller section,\nKS> or then they said that his book has not been published yet, but they\nKS> should receive the book soon. In some places the assistants bluntly\nKS> said that they don't know of such an author, or that he is not \nKS> a well known living author, so they don't keep copies of his books.\n\nKS> Such is the life and times of America, 200+ years after the revolution.\n\nSigh, now I don't feel so bad.  Searching for a copy in bookstores has\nbeen a habit of mine for at least two years now.  I spend a *lot* of \ntime browsing through bookstores, new and and used, and I've not once\nseen a copy.  Now, I know, all I do is pick up a phone and order the\ndarned thing, but come on, this is America and he's one of the founding\nfathers.  And no one carries his books?  Sure, you can find \"Common\nSense\" but I think that's because it's required reading for most\ncolleges.  \n\nI did find one hole-in-the-wall bookstore where the owner said that they \nusually carry one or two copies, but that they were currently out. I haven't\nbeen back since so I don't know if he was telling the truth or not.\n\nsigh...\n\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":":  \n:         So what's the story here... we're all stuck with the regular\n: green, red, and off yellow-orange LED's!?  What gives!!??\n:         Anybody have a 'scoop' on FAIRLY LOW PRICED >BLUE< LED's???\n\nIf your looking for LEDs in the $.10-$.20 range, forget it. Blue LEDs just\nrecently became available and the materials they are made of are expensive.\nMaybe in the future they will become less expensive (and brighter), but\nfor now it's going to cost you and the output will be limited. If they ever\ndo get as efficient and cost effective as red and green LEDs, you're probably\ngoing to see a whole new family of color displays.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"After failing my State of New Hampshire Noise Gestapo test with my HD\nSlash cut pipes I installed my new Bubs (which I had been planning to\ndo anyway), went to a different in spection station, and passed with no\nproblem at about 97 dB.\n\nTwo points:\n\nFirst, I don't think the first dude did the noise test correctly. \nHolding the meter close to his body probably caused a high reading, and\ndoing it inside the garage with the door closed undoubtedly enhanced\nthe dB level! So if any other NH riders need to get this done, make\nsure the inspection is done outdoors with the meter held well away from\nthe body.\n\nSecond, these Bub pipes are bloody terrific. At low revs or cruising\nthrough town, they as quiet as the stock pipes, but have a sound thats\na more throaty, purring, rumble.  When you open her up to >3000 RPM\nthey emit a wonderfully satisfying rumbling roar. Best of both worlds!","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Hello !\n\nCould anybody be so kind and tell me the date and possible ftp-location of\nthe most recent Win 3.1 printer drivers for:\n\n\t- Canon BJ-10e\n\t\tand\n\t- Canon LBP-4\n\nI would really appreciate if you could help me with this.\nThanks in advance!\n\n--\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n \tkjell@hut.fi \tkjell@niksula.hut.fi\tkjell@vipunen.hut.fi","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I'm currently looking for a viewer for Computer Graphics Metafile (CGM)\npictures. Please inform me about a SHAREWARE or FREEWARE version.\n\nThnx,\nRemco","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Re: The 25MHz IIsi","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n  ESPN had an advertise for Pens\/Devils game 4. I don't know what the hell\n  they are trying to do, especially against NFL draft. Well I guess there goes\n  the NHL ratings for Sundays game.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nVocabulary test: Please define the following words:\n\n   a) contradictory\n   b) ambiguous","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"CAN you read ??\n\tIf so: read my posting about Quisling OR look in a dictionary.\n\tIf not: Don't read this :)\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Ignore the attacks and look at the sales numbers and the MS\nstock price if you need some \ngratification. Just keep doing the great job you have done in the past.\nThx Dave L\n\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Ok, Buffalo fans.  I am a Red Wings fan, but am amazed at how the Sabres are\nbeating up on the Bruins.  Is there any reason for this?  Is it Grant Fuhr or\nMogilny and Lafontaine?  I would like to hear from you since I do not know much\nabout the Sabres.\n\n\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Until recently I always understood the term \"kingdom theology\" to mean the \ntheology of the kingdom of God, but now I have discovered that there is a \nnew and more specialized meaning. I gather that it is also called \"Dominion \ntheology\", and that it has to do with a belief that Christians must create a \ntheocratic form of government on earth before Christ will come again.\n\nI have not come across anyone who believes or advocates this, but I am told \nthat it is a very widespread belief in the USA.\n\nCan anyone give me any more information about it?\n\nHere are some of my questions:\n\n1. Is it the teaching of any particular denomination? If so, which?\n2. Where and when does it start?\n3. Are there any particular publications that propagate it?\n4. Are there any organizations that propagate it?","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nWhen Robert refers to the \"orthodox\", he is talking about the Historical\nposition of the Christian Faith. Such things are derived from Biblcal\ntexts through the centuries by the apocolic fathers of the faith.\n\nYou are right that people read things differently in the Bible, and this\nis alright in parts like parables and such forth. However, when it comes\nto the essential doctrines of the Historical Orthodox Christan Beliefs,\nthere is only one correct way to read it. For example, either the\ndoctrine of the Trinity is true, or it is false. Yes, people read the\ntexts differently, but only one position is true. They both cannot be.\nAccording to the text, the doctrine is true and has always existed.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nConsider special relativity.  It hasn't be proved, nor has it been\ndisproved.  No one has a proof one way or the other, but many people\nare interested in it!\n \nI've satisfied myself that nothing could indicate absolutely the\nexistence of God one way or the other.  The two possibilities\nare supernaturalism and naturalism.  Of course no set of circumstances can\nbe inconsistent with supernaturalism, but similarly, no set of circumstances\ncan be inconsistent with naturalism.  In naturalism, any phenomenon that\ncould be described as God is considered part of the natural world, to\nbe studied as any other natural phenomenon (gravity, for instance).  \nFor example, if a loud ``godlike'' voice vociferously announced, ``I\nam God, I exist, and I will prove it by reversing the force of gravity,''\nand if then gravity did indeed reverse, a naturalist (probably a scientist)\nwould say, ``Boy, we sure didn't understand gravity as well as we\nthought we did, and that loud voice is something new.  Perhaps we\ndidn't understand thunder as well as we thought we did either.''\n\n\nI'm sure glad you don't know where I live, since you don't seem\nto realize it is impossible for you to distinguish between voices\nin your head, and God's voice.\n\n\nYou seem to have missed my point.  Even if Jim Jones and David Koresh\nwere not religious people, my point remains that faith and dogma\nare dangerous, and religion encourages them.  Jim Jones and David Koresh\nalso encouraged them.  My point does not rely on Jim Jones and David\nKoresh being religious.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nSo, that is the reason why the Toronto Blue Jays *should* keep Alfredo\nGriffin, just because it \"worked\"?\n\nA team winning doesn't mean that everything that it's doing is right.\nA team not winning doesn't mean that everything that it's doing is wrong, or\notherwise (to borrow the Sharks' situation) you would say that George Kingston\nshould be fired.\n\n\nBy then, it's too late.  The problem with \"not fixing something while it's\nworking\" is that by then, there may not be anything left to fix.\n\n\nSo, the Blue Jays were simply perfect last year; there was nothing that they\ncould have done to have improved that team.  NOT.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nActually, both numbers are correct.  The difference is in the direction\nof the acceleration.  For pilots, accelerations tend to be transverse to\nthe direction you're facing (pulling out from a steep dive, the\nacceleration will force blood toward your feet, for instance).  In this\ncase, you can only put up with about 8 g's even with a pressure suit.  \n\nThe record for acceleration, though, is measured along \"the direction\nyou're facing\" (for lack of a better term).  As I recall, this record\nwas set in rocket sleds back in the 60's -- and was about 40 g's or so.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"  > anybody know the difference between the Quarda 900 and Quadra 950?\n  > >Quarda 900 is a popular misspelling of Quadra 900, which has a 25 MHz\n  > 040 >processor. The 950 has a 33 MHz 040, and some local buses on the\n  > >motherboard run faster. The video is different also. The 950 can run a\n  > 13\" and I believe a 16\" monitor in 16 bit color without a VRAM upgrade.\n  > \n\nBesides the faster processor, the 950 has SCSI 2, and as far as I know, faster\nI\/O due to separate processors handling those functions. The 950 can output 16\nbit video to a 16\" monitor with 1 meg of VRAM and 24 bit with 2 meg.\n\nhope this helps\nanand\narmani@edgeway.wimsey.bc.ca","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI  _do_ know  that  IBM systems, the PS\/2 56SLC2, in  particular, have\nabsolutely no  problem  with  OS\/2--never had  a \"random\" crash  while\nrunning any of  my programs under  OS\/2.   In fact, I  don't  remember\n_ever_ crashing.\n\nOf course, I really don't run any  OS\/2 programs, just the  same bunch\nof DOS and Windows stuff that I've always been running.\n\nAnd  when  I  had  the  56SLC  (this is  the  386SLC  system)  running\nDos\/Windows, I had only  one crash, and it was consistent.   FTP had a\ntendency  to  crash  whenever  I would  get  large  files (>1mb)  from\nparticularly fast  clients  (DTR's  150K-200K\/sec), I  figured out the\nproblem was with smartdrv's write buffering--if I turned off the write\nbuffer, everything would work fine.\n\nFTP under OS\/2 has never locked,  though.  I can even format  floppies\n(to use the most often cited example of the superiority of OS\/2.)\n\n\nYeah, I guess I'm willing to admit that OS\/2  is somewhat sensitive to\nspecific hardware.  WP51 for DOS works perfectly fine on my SLC2...\n\n\nWell,  I save all  my  personal files to floppy,  and when  i did that\nunder Windows, a floppy save of a large file hung up the system.\n\nI  also found  it quite bothersome to  have  to  continually tweak the\ntasking options  on fractint for dos whenever I wanted to do a fractal\ncomputation in the background.\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I have the following computer items for sale:\n\n  Item                                Condition                 Price\n\n (a) Color EGA card and monitor            Working                 $180.00\n     Monitor made by Zenith\n     \n\n (b) (3)  1Mx8 80ns SIMMS by MT            Working                 $ 25.00\/each\n     (16) 256K 80NS SIMMS by OKI           Working                 $  3.00\/each\n     (4)  256K 100NS SIMMS by IT           Working                 $  2.75\/each\n     (4)  256K 100NS SIMMS by Motorola     Working                 $  2.75\/each\n     (4)  256K 120NS SIMMS by NEC          Working                 $  2.50\/each\n\n     NOTE: All the above simms left over from  numerous Macintosh upgrade I\n           did over the years. If you have questions as to which one\n           fits your Mac, please mail me back.  \n\n (c) (2) AST FASTRAM card with 512K        Working                 $ 25.00\/each\n         could be upgraded to 2M with\n         the DRAM in item(d)  \n\n (d) (54) 256K 100NS DRAM by TI            Working                 $  0.50\/each\n     (36) 256K 100NS DRAM by OKI           Working                 $  0.50\/each\n     (18) 256K 100NS DRAM by Hunydai       Working                 $  0.50\/each\n\n (e) Compaq Classic \"Portable\" computer    Working                 $150.00\n     2 360K floppy drives\n     Amber 9 inch screen\n     256K RAM\n\n (f) (2) Serial card                       Working                 $ 10.00\/each\n \n (g) Western Digital Disk Controller       Working                 $ 30.00\n     WD1003-WAH F003 X16\n     16 bit card for floopy\n     and harddisk\n\n (h) Logitech 3-buttons mechanical         Working                 $ 20.00\n     serial mouse\n     \n\n (i) (1) Full-size AT case with            Working                 $ 35.00\n         200W power-supply\n     \n     (1) Full-size AT case with            Working                 $ 60.00\n         200W power-supply \n         This is the original\n         case for my AST Premium\/286\n         computer, it could have\n         up to 5 half-height devices\n         (three of which could be\n         floopy drives, tape drive etc).\n         I am also including the original\n         286 motherboard which condition\n         is unknown.\n\n (j) (2) 1.2M 5.25\" floopy drive         Working                  $ 30.00\/each\n     (1) 1.44 3.5\" floopy drive          Working                  $ 38.00\n   \n (k) Adaptec 1542B SCSI adapter          Brand New                $220.00\n\n (l) Wangtek 5150ES SCSI 250M            Working                  $200.00\n     1\/4\" tape drive    \n\n (m) 1\/2 height 40M MFM drive            Working                  $100.00\n     by Miniscribe?\n     1\/2 height 40M MFM drive            Working                  $100.00\n     by Seagate ST 251-1         \n     1\/2 height 20M MFM drive            Working                  $ 50.00\n     by Seagate\n\n (n) Prodigy start-up kit for            Brand New                $ 45.00\n     PC with 24\/96 data\/fax\n     modem\n     \n The following items I am selling as is, all the them are in unknown\n condition, either I never get it to work or never try to hook it up.\n\n (o) EGA card                            Unknown                  $  5.00\n\n (p) Multi-function game\/clock\/          Unknown                  $  5.00\n     parallel\/serial port card\n\n (q) Monochrome Graphics 132 columns     Unknown                  $  5.00\n     graphics card  \n\n (r) CDC 94171-344 340M SCSI drive       Unknown                  $150.00\n\n (q) Miniscribe 20M SCSI drive           Unknown                  $ 15.00\n\n (r) Prodigy start-up kit                Unknown                  FREE\n\n (s) (2) AST-3G Plus Chip                Unknown                  $  2.00\n\n (t) Seagate 80M MFM drive               Unknown                  $ 80.00\n     model ST-4096 \n\n I bought the radar detector a couple years ago for obvious reason(s)\n and I have never been ticketed for the past 3 years and now I don't\n drive to work anymore so I would rather sell it.\n\n (u) Whristler 425 radar detector        Working                 $ 30.00\n     X & K bands   \n\n\n If you would like to buy any of the above items, please mail me\n at jack@acs.bu.edu. Also, a 10% automatic discount will apply if\n your total purchase price is $100 or more (except the two brand\n new items). Buyer(s) pay shipping.\n \n If you think the prices I listed above is unrealistic, please mail\n me back and I would take your advice into consideration and make the\n proper adjustments.\n\n The reason I am selling this stuff is because I have decided that\n I had enough with this hobby of PC computing and I want to move on\n other interests.\n\n One last thing, if you know any non-profit organization whom might\n be interested in my equipments, please let me know. Because if no\n one wants to buy them, I might as well donate them and get a tax\n break...\n\n Thanks.\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t-Jack\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\tjack@acs.bu.edu\n\n\n \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n-- ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"My wife wants to publish a newsletter. She's no artist, so she intends to\nuse comercial clipart and customise it a bit by drawing a circle or a box\naround it etc. \n \nWe have MSPublisher for manipulating text, but it is not suitable for doing\nmuch with graphics, so she needs a more specialised tool. Right now she's\nlooking at Corel Draw and Harvard Draw. There seem to be more books in the\nstores on Corel than on Harvard, so she's inclined to go with Corel on the\nbasis of popularity. Can anyone give us an informed opinion on which \npackage would be more suitable or if there is an even better alternative\navailable? If this is a FAQ, please withhold the flames and just send the\nlocation of the FAQ document. Thanks.\n \nThree PS's:\n \n1) Is it ok to use clip art from Harvard Draw or whatever for commercial\n   purposes?\n \n2) We have a 600 dpi Laser Jet 4 printer. What would be a good scanner for\n   reading in paper clipart?","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Yesterday I changed the US-Keyboard of my Sparc10 with a german keyboard.\nAnd now I cannot get any \"Alt Graph\" characters ('tilde' usw.).\nWhen I exit from X I can get the characters, but not under X.\n\nCan anybody give me some hints, where to check for the correct installation\nof the keyboard.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nM --> \nM --> Look for the Leafs, led by a healthy Doug Gilmour and a confidence-restored\nM --> Felix Potvin to do the Blues in 6.  The Leafs will have 3 more games with the\nM --> Wings and that should give Joseph a few extra days to pass those horshoes.\nM --> \n\nHA! Roger the dodger is back! (on the bandwagon, that is.)\n\n- Jack\n\n * Please Tell Me if you Don't Get This Message","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nLocal media hasn't said much, if anything, about the MOW.  Also, when\nI called a straight friend in Arlington to tell him I would be on his\ndoorstep this weekend, he didn't know anything at all about the march.\nThis is a gay-sympathetic person who notices things like this.  I\nthought it was strange that he was unaware of what was happening.  It\nmade me wonder just how much coverage is getting to \"mainstream\" America.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I am new to Windows and I wanted to know how to setup the terminal program.\nI have a modem in COM4, but when it try to configure it inside Windows\nI get the messare \"Unsupported COM ...\"\n\nCan anyone help me?","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nJudging from the responses so far, I have not made clear enough in my\narticle quoted above that Imake-TeX is not for installing TeX, but for\n*using* it. With Imake-TeX, you will never again have to fiddle around with\ncalling latex and its various utility programs (makeindex, bibtex). Simply\ntype \"make\" and your document's DVI file will be up-to-date. All you have\nto do is to write a simple Imakefile and let Imake generate a suitable\nMakefile for you. Here is such an Imakefile:\n\n\t#include \"TeX.tmpl\"\n\tPaperFormatA4()\n\tSimpleLatexTarget(document)\n\nThe generated Makefile provides the following commands:\n\n    make depend:    Searching the TeX source files for dependencies like\n                    \\input{somefile}\n\n    make dvi:       Generate an up-to-date DVI file\n\n    make viewdvi:   Display it on your screen\n\n    make ps:        Generate a PostScript version of your document\n\n    make viewps:    Display it\n\n    make clean:     Remove unnecessary things\n\n    make veryclean: Remove even the DVI file\n\n    make Makefiles: Generate Makefiles in subdirectories\n\n\nIf ...\n\na) ...this seems attractive to you,\nb) ...you are willing to test Imake-TeX and send me a short test report,\nc) ...you are willing to cope with a rudimentary English documentation\n   (however, the German version is completed and included),\n\nthen you are invited as a beta tester. I am looking forward to your e-mail.\n\n-- \n  Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute      I R B :  immer richtig beraten\n  Univ. Dortmund, IRB\n  Postfach 500500         |)|\/    Tel.: +49 231 755-4663\nD-W4600 Dortmund 50       |\\|\\    Fax : +49 231 755-2386","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nI've got a 386DX-40, 4MB and I'm using Windows 3.1. Sometimes I wondered why \nWindows worked endlessly on my HD when I was doing nothing (execpt having lunch\nor something like that). Then I turned this virtual memory swapfile off, and\nWindows became quite faster, but now having less memory free. And so I'm still\nwondering, why windows is reading everything from virtual memory when the\nconvertional is sufficient? Any common-sense-explanation is really appreciated.\n\n  \n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n \n \n    Hello, I'm looking for information on Alphanumeric pagers \nand *how* the data is sent from the paging transmitter and how \nI would go about building a device to decode the paging data \n(like my pager does) and feed it though an RS232 port.\n    I'm planning on seperating different paging messages and \ndifferent pagers in software to keep amount of hardware I need \ndown....  Does anyone know what chips (Motorola?) are good for \ndecoding Numeric and Alphanumeric paging data (and then stuffing\nit down an RS232 port (basically any baud rate is fine!) ? \n    (I already have a radio reciever with headphone level \noutput for the audio signal from the paging tower, but I'd be \ninterested in anything you know about pagers, including the \ntype of radio recievers they use!)\n    Thanks in advance!            \n-theo\nEMAIL = theo@walt.caps.maine.edu\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Hello out there,\nIf your familiar with the COMET program then this concerns you.\nCOMET is scheduled to be launched from Wallops Island sometime in June.\nDoes anyone know if an official launch date has been set?","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
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{"text":"Did anyone else notice how the question of what federal\nlaws were violated was brushed aside? I'd like to know\nwhat laws were violated, and on what evidence the orignial\nBATF warrants were based.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"This is the most unmitigated bilge I've seen in a while. Jim Brown obviously\nhas possession of the right-wing token.\n\n\n\"In December, former national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski told a\nSenate committee that sanctions were costing Iraq $100 million per day, and\nthat the multinational coalition could take all the time in the world.\nIraq, he suggested, was losing badly every day it defied the UN demands,\nwhile the community of nations won every day -- with no taking of life or\nloss of life.\"  -- FCNL Washington Newsletter.\n\n\nWrongful actions of murderers like leaders of the US government, perhaps?\nRegrettable, of course; The-Way-It-Is - certainly not.\n\n\nGood heavens! An escapee from Rush Limbot Land! \"Conservative\", my ass.\n\n\nBULLSHIT!!! In the Gulf Massacre, 7% of all ordnance used was \"smart.\" The\nrest - that's 93% - was just regular, dumb ol' iron bombs and stuff. Have\nyou forgotten that the Pentagon definition of a successful Patriot launch\nwas when the missile cleared the launching tube with no damage? Or that a\nsuccessful interception of a Scud was defined as \"the Patriot and Scud\npassed each other in the same area of the sky\"?\n\nAnd of the 7% that was the \"smart\" stuff, 35% hit. Again - try to follow me\nhere - that means 65% of this \"smart\" arsenal missed.\n\n\nProve it. I have a source that says that to date, the civilian death count\n(er, excuse me, I mean \"collateral damage\") is about 200,000.\n\n-s\n--\n   \"No one has attempted to calculate the costs of an execution in\nWashington state, but studies elsewhere suggest it costs far more than\nincarceration.\n   \"California is spending more than $90 million annually on capital cases,\nand until this year hadn't executed anyone since 1972.  Texas, the national\nleader in the number of executions, spends an estimated $2.3 million per\nexecution.  That compares to an average cost of incarceration in Washington\nstate of $25,000 per maximum-security prisoner per year.\"","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"What are peoples opinions on the above make of hard drives, I seem to have \nfound a really good bargain on a 170meg drive but I thought I'd check if\nanyone had any comments to say on this make?\n\nAlso I'm a bit of a novice with PC's (but an experienced computer user), when\nconnecting and fitting this drive into one of my spare 5 1\/4 bays what extras\nwill I need, a cable for starters (I guess :-) , but what about brackets etc...\n\nAlso I think I might have to change some jumpers on the drive and my original\nConnar 211meg one. I'll be attaching the second drive to a seperate IDE socket\non my controler card. What will I need to change ????\n\nYet again many thanks to all that have answered me in the past and to any that\nanswer me in the future :-)\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nExactly what would that show, ?! the \"law enforcement block\" is easy to\ncreate, given the Government key and any serial number. \n\n\n*IF* it comes to trail about the wiretap.... ya, some safegaurd that is.\nWhat if they just harass people as a result, or learn things they shouldn't\nhave learned, etc? \n\n\nThe whole point of the Escrow system is to prevent the FBI from making \nillegal wiretaps. Why not have the FBI holds the\nkeys and that's it? Why do we need the escrow system at all?\n\nUnless a 3rd party (a judge) verifies that the requested serial number\nis \"right\", and the FBI can get any key they like at anytime, the escrow\nsystem is useless.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"[reply to tgk@cs.toronto.edu (Todd Kelley)]\n \n \n \nAgreed.\n \n \nIt is hard for me to understand, but quite a few professional scientists\nand philosophers are theists.\n \n \nBut also intolerance and superstition.  I'm not sure that in the balance\nit is not detrimental.\n \n \nSure would!","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I am looking for a tandem bicycle, any make, any model, and any condition.  I\nwould prefer a complete bike, but just a tandem frameset is OK, too.  Please\nemail me if you have one for sale.\n\nP.S.  I will pay shipping from anywhere in Canada or U.S.\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"My 3.5\" floppy drive stopped recognizing low density (720K) floppies.\n\nThe controller and drive works fine in another system. I was told it\ncould be the DMA chip. The system is a 386DX-25 using Chips & Technology\nchip set. I'm open to all suggestions. Please send your replies to:\n\n\t\tken@jazz.concert.net","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I've spent the past week tearing my hair out, trying to get the output of\na piped \"tail -f\" to end up in a widget.  I've managed to make it work in\nsome ugly ways, but either a) X blocks on the tail and won't allow user\ninput, b) the \"tail -f\" functions like just \"tail\" and doesn't follow the\nexpansion of the file, c) the \"tail -f\" doesn't die after I've closed\nthe pipe and destoryed the widget, or d) pclose() blocks forever waiting\nfor tail to die.\n\tI _know_ this code has to exist.  Anybody have it?  A general\npopen() case would be perfered but at this point I'll take anything...\nThanks.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nI've had the same problem with a Maxtor 7213A.  Turned off\nsmartdrive, 32 bit disk access, etc.  This same disk aborts\nNorton Speed Disk (NU 4.5), up to 8 times, requesting NDD to be\nrun when attempting to defrag drive.  At Some peoples' suggestion\nI reformatted my drive and reloaded DOS 5.0, Win 3.1 from\nscratch.  A few people found that installing 3.1 on top of 3.1\nbeta on top of 3.0 caused a similar problem, So I tried this\ndrastic solution.  When the problem reoccurred, I didn't have the\nbrains not to load 6.0 and dblespaced the drive.\n\nI get arround the annoyance by copying my *.grp files to *.gro.\nwhen I get the message, I run file manager and copy the\noffeniding group files from *.gro ove rthe *.grp.  Then I quit\nand restart windows(If the group is an often used important one.)\n\nThis really sucks.  But I'm pretty sure that the problem is the\ndrive (especially with the NSD problem).  I will be going with\nout over 66% of my memory after finals for 2 to 4 weeks, while\nthe guy I bought the disk and system from, goes over it and\neither fixes it or replaces the drive.  I can't wait to have a\nsystem that will run consistently with all hte goodies!\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nIf you use MEK for your sake wear safty glasses or better still\nindustrial goggles. The small est drop in the eye will casue\nblindness by a catalysis reaction that is non cureavble once it starts.\nThe results are similar to mustard gas contamination. Note MEK peroxide\nis a hardner form fibreglass resins.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nFirearm?  Let's not even consider long knives (swords), which were also\ncommon militia weapons in the 18th century, and which, if anything, are\noften restricted more heavily than firearms.  Whatever sense gun control\nmakes, knife control makes even less.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"A friend of mine has a complete set of AIX-PS\/2 1.2 software\n\tand manuals for sale. (NEW) (all on 1.44 Meg floppies)\n\tincluding:\n\n\t\tBase OS\n\t\tDevelopment tools (including C Compiler)\n\t\tAdministration extensions\n\t\tX Windows \/ Motif\n\t\tTCP\/IP \n\t\tPC simulator (DOS Merge)\n\t\tetc. etc.....\n\n\t(This software requires a PS\/2 with 386 processor or higher, \n\tample disk space and memory :-) it can coexist with dos and \n\tOS\/2 on the same machine, and selectively booted at startup.)\n\n\tIf you are interested email me your offer and I will pass\n\tit along. Keep in mind that the manuals and software fill \n\tup a 12x12x18 box so shipping is a consideration.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I posted this question about colorizing motif widgets. I got it working\nfine. There was one bug in my .Xdefault file. It should work fine in normal\ncase.\n\nThanks\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"that they\nout the\nlittle\nwriting.   \nRanger\nlast\nsee Mike\nwent\nwho is\nthe\npenalties and\nreason?\nIslander\ntest\nhard","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":": Build 59 causes 2 exceptions when I exit Windows. In fact, I have had\n: this happen on all builds after 44, which shipped with my Gateway\n: system.  Am I doing something wrong, or is this problem commonly\n: overlooked?\n\nI have never had \"exceptions\" with build 44, 50, or 59 drivers.  I have a\nGW2000 DX266.\n\n--","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
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{"text":"For all those people flaming John Bradley, the author of xv - he's on\nvacation till May 10 (or 15, I don't remember). Maybe we all should slow\ndown and wait to hear his side wrt copyrights, fees, etc.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"TO: rych@festival.ed.ac.uk (R Hawkes)\n\nRH>I've noticed that if you only save a model (with all your mapping planes\nRH>positioned carefully) to a .3DS file that when you reload it after restarting\nRH>3DS, they are given a default position and orientation.  But if you save\nRH>to a .PRJ file their positions\/orientation are preserved.  Does anyone\nRH>know why this information is not stored in the .3DS file?  Nothing is\n\n    This is because the PRJ (Project) format saves all of your settings,\n    right down to the last render file's name.\n\nRH>I'd like to be able to read the texture rule information, does anyone have\nRH>the format for the .PRJ file?\n\n    Sorry... Don't have anything on that or the CEL format.\n\n....r.c V.t.ell. .r...","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Brian Ceccarelli wrote (that's me):\n\n\nKent Sandvik responds:\n\n\nI think I see where you are coming from Kent.  Jesus doesn't view\nguilt like our modern venacular colors it.   \n\n\"Feelings\" have nothing to do with guilt.  Feelings arise from the state of \nbeing guilty.  Feeling and guilt are mutally exclusive.  Feelings are a \nreaction from guilt.  Jesus is talking about the guilt state, not the \nreaction.   Let me give you an example:\n\nHave you ever made a mistake?  Have you ever lied to someone?  Even a\nlittle white lie?   Have you ever claimed to know something that you really \ndidn't know?  Have you ever hated someone?  Have you ever been selfish?\nAre you guilty of any one of these?   The answer is of course, YES.  You\nare guilty.  Period.  That is it what Jesus is getting at.  No big surprise.  \nFeelings do not even enter the picture.   Consider Jesus's use of the word\n\"guilt\" as how a court uses it.\n\nJesus is concerned that everyone should admit that they are guilty of being\nimperfect.  The Bible calls it the state that we are all sinners.  We all do\nbad things.  Even the most insignficant thing that we do wrong is proof of our \nguilt that we are all sinners.     It is it in our nature to do bad things. \nWe are sinners, therefore we do bad things.  Being a sinner is fact.  It is\nnot a pleasant fact.  But it is just a fact.  We are not perfect.   Calling us\nsinners should have no more emotional charge to you than calling you a\nhuman being.  Guilty as charged.\n\n\nYou can handle your guilt in one of two ways:  Acknowledge you\nmade a mistake, learn from it, and try to not do it again--in\nthe meantime, not punishing yourself for it:  which is the\nway Jesus wants you to handle or it.  This is the healthy way.\n\nOr two, the destructive way:  put yourself down, slap yourself\nand feel like crap, never forgive yourself, force yourself to\nsay a thousand Hail Marys . . . even to suicide.  This the way \nJesus does NOT want us to deal with it.   All people fall into this \ncategory to some extent in their lives.\n\nJesus is not in the business of saving us from this guilt\nfeeling.  Jesus is in the business of showing us how much he\nloves us despite our guilt.  Jesus knows we are guilty.  That\nisn't new to him.  It is no big deal to him. He just wants you to realize \nthat this sinful nature destroys the relationship between you and him.\nThat is what he wants you to know.  Why, because he wants to \nhave your company.  You are immensely valuable to him.\nJesus wants a relationship with you, however, in our present\nsinful nature, we are incapable of having this relationship.  \n\nGod is perfect.  We are not.  You cannot fit a square peg into\na round hole.  However, God has provided a way for us to\nchange our nature so that we can have a relationship with him.\nGod has provided Jesus, so that whosoever just believes in\nJesus, will have their nature changed.  The Holy Spirit will\nmove it.  And now divine nature is now within lives our very\nbeing--and us and God communicate with each through his\nunifying Holy Spirit.  The benefits of this are endless.  For\nwith the divine nature living within us, we can now see\nour imperfections better.  We can now head them off at the pass.  With\nthe power of the Holy Spirit living in us, we now have his power\nto help us overcome our shortcomings.   Because the divine nature lives \nwithin us, we can now understand profound Bible passages that never before\nwe could understand.  Because the divine nature now lives within us, we now \nhave authority over demonic forces.  And lastly, because the divine \nnature now lives within us, we have eternal life--for the Holy Spirit\nis eternal.\n\nThe relationship with Jesus is of the utmost importance.  Because\nit is not what you do in life that qualifies you to belong to\nheavenly kingdom, it is your relationship to the living God.\nRemember what Jesus said at the tail end of Matthew when he\nseparated the \"goats from the sheep\".   Many people in the\nlast day will ask him, \"Didn't I prophesy in your name and do\nmiracles, and do good things in your name?\"   And what did Jesus say?\n\"Depart from me, for I never *knew* you.\"  That is the cornerstone of \nChristianity, Kent.  Jesus must know you as his friend.  It is your \nrelationship to Jesus.  If he is your friend and you are his, you will\nbe counted among those who will share in his inheritance in heaven.  \n\n\nGood.  It shows that you have a strong self-image--that you\nlove yourself.  That is the second greatest commandment Jesus\ntaught.  If only more people could do as you do.   As I said before, \nin the common english venacular, \"feeling guilty\" has a\ndifferent meaning than the state of guilt.\n\n\nI believe what we all need in our personalities is a lot less ego,\na lot less self-centeredness, and a lot more unconditional love.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I would like to buy a 4 channel multitrack recorder.  I would\nprefer a cassette machine such as those made by Fostex, Tascam,\nYamaha, etc. but would consider reel-to-reel as well.  Write me\nif you know of anything.\n\nThanks.\n\n--\nW. Craig Scratchley                       | internet:  scratch@sce.carleton.ca\nDept. of Systems and Computer Engineering |    phone:  (613) 788-5740 (Dept.)\nCarleton University                       |            (613) 241-6952 (Home)\nOttawa, ON, CANADA  K1S 5B6               |      fax:  (613) 788-5727 (Dept.)","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Everyone seems to think that this man's mouse problem is mechanical (its dirty)\n I have been having a similar problem with my mouse, and it only occurs when ru\nnning windows and therefore cannot be mechanical in nature. I'm running a mouse\n systems compatible mouse on a 486 66 DX2 with a trident 1 meg video card and a\nm experienceing similar jumpiness as well as strange font subsitutions and mous\ne traces left on screen and windows gpf errors. HELP!!!\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":": Just curious why floptical drives never seemed to catch on. Remember\n: those 21 Mb disks that look and feel like 3.5\" floppies? These drives\n: are SCSI devices and can read and write both 720 Kb and 1.44\/21 Mb\n: disks. Sounds to me to be one great product for the PC market. Are the\n: prices really that unaffordable compared to CD-ROMs which are currently\n: not rewritable? I know about the new rewritable CDs and expect SONY to\n: develop the first MDs for the computer. My question is: why isn't there\n: any substantial interest in developing the flopticals?\n\nCertainly in the UK the 21Mb flopticals are about the same price as a\ncheap CD-ROM now (you seem to be able to get them for around GBP\n200-250). However the bigger optical drives (e.g. 128Mb) are much more\nexpensive - around the GBP 1000 mark.\n\nA couple of questions that someone may be able to answer - the 21Mb\nflopticals - are they direct drop in replacements for a floppy or do\nthey need driver software etc. I.e. do you just rip out the floppy\ndrive, plug the same cables into the floptical, stick in a flopti-disk\nand hey presto you have a 21Mb floppy. This sounds far too easy.\n\nOn the subject of Sony developing MDs for computers, I have reread a\nPCW article on this subject and there it says that Sony have been doing\noptical drives for other people for some time and may be about to do a\nproduct themselves. From the article it seems that the audio MD format\nis a byproduct of their computer storage work - the MD  mechanism is\nidentical to their MO computer optical drives. A Sony spokesman was\nquoted as saying that a 2.5\" MD disk would hold about 100Mb of data\nthough he refused to comment on any possibility of this being\nproductized.\n\nThe article said that one of the problems holding back development in\nthis area was lack of sensible standards plus there are at least 2\ndistinct optical storage mechanisms around at present. Given that it\nprobably needs MDs being used as a distribution medium to get it\ninto the market and since this has already been cornered by CDs it\nprobably needs someone to come in with a very strong marketting lead\nto get MDs accepted.\n\n--","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nThe arrest of Noriega did not have any major adverse effect on the\ndrug trade going through Panama. Money laundering continues to be\nPanama's main industry. In fact, it is bigger now than before Noriega\nwas arrested [1]. Panama's current administration also has ties with\nthe Colombian cocaine cartels [2]. And large amounts cocaine still\nflow through Panama on a regular basis [3].\n\nOh well...\n\nSources (from the book _Drugs in America_ by Vincent Bugliosi):\n[1] IRS Criminal Investigations Divison\n[2] _New York Times_\n[3] U.S. State Department\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nDo I assume correctly from the above aricle that your mother has a historyy\nof cancer?  I was just wondeing, since you mentioned thhat she has an\noncologist.\n\nA bone scan is a nuclear scan.  Thperson receivving the scan is gven a\ndose of a radioactive tracer, and an imaging device is used to track the\ndistribution of the tracer wwithin the body.  The tracer is usually given\nintravenously.  (IV) This means that the physician or his assistant will\ninsert a needle into a vein and inject  medicine into the vein. \n\nAfter a few minutes has passed for the tracer to circulate through the\nbody, the person is scanned with an imaging device to detect high \nconcentrations of the tracer.  The radiologist or doctor is looking for\nareas that take up more of the radioactive tracer or less of it.\n\nAs far as pain, the only pain comes from the needle stick that is required\nto start the IV line.\n\nWhat the doctor is probably looking for are changes in the bones that may\nhave resulted from cancer.  This is also why I was wondering if your mother\nhas had cancer, since cancer can spread from one site and wind up in the\nskeletal system.\n\nI hope I have answered some of your questions.  Feel free to e-mail me if\nyou have more questions related to the bone scan or anything else related\nto your mother's care.  I'm a newly graduated nurse, and I enjoy sharing\ninformation with other people to help them understand things that they did\nnot know about before.\n\nMy thoughts are with you both.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"From Israeline 4\/27\/93\n\nPeace Talks Resume Today; Israel to Offer Palestinians New\nProposals\n \nIsrael Radio, KOL YISRAEL, reports on today's resumption in\nWashington of the bilateral peace talks, following a recess which\nlasted over four months. According to the report, Israel is\nexpected to offer the Palestinians new proposals regarding the\nauthority of the Palestinian Executive Council, general elections,\ncontrol over land and human rights issues in the Territories.\nIsrael will express its readiness to give the Palestinians control\nof more land than previously offered. According to the radio\nreport, one estimate is that Israel will give the Palestinians\ncontrol over as much as two thirds of the administered lands, as\nwell as broad authority on water issues. Israel will seek to\npromote its offer to hold elections in the Territories in hopes of\nstrengthening the position of the Palestinian delegation to the\npeace negotiations. According to Israel Radio, the Israeli\ndelegation to the bilateral talks with the Palestinians will offer\ngreater responsibilities to the Palestinian Executive Council\nallowing it certain legislative capabilities, without making it a\nsymbol for Palestinian sovereignty. U.S. Secretary of State Warren\nChristopher invited all the heads of delegations to a gathering\ntonight. It will be the first such event since the Madrid\nconference. Head of the American team at the bilateral peace talks,\nEdward Djerejian, said that tonight's gathering is meant to\ndemonstrate the U.S.' active role in the peace process.\n ","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\ncelular phones...........\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nThat's what the pseudo-disclaimer is supposed to say, sorry for the confusion.\n\n-nate","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nThe last V8 in Mad Max is based on a Holden (Australia). Holden is\nlinked with GM (Vauxhall GB) and so they're quite unlikely to use \nFord parts.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nThese substances are normally not the secret, but how to get at them. The \nmethod of preperation is normally patented, which means that no-one else can \nmake the chemical in the same way, without undergoing an agreement with \nAmerican Cyanamid. (But I guess you knew what a patent is :-) )\n\nIf you know what substance is used, you'll also know its toxicity.\n\n\nThe Luminol reaction has the disadvantage of not lasting as long as the \ncommercial version.\n\nRemember that cyano compounds are found in nature, and not all are poisonous.\n\nRegards,","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Hello, I'm curious what sort of neat features exist on high-end\nanswering machines today. In particular, I'm interested in\nfeatures of digital answering machines. Also, what is the\ntypical amount of storage(in minutes) for these digital answering\nmachines?\n\nThe reason? I'm hacking together an answering machine program\nfor my ZyXEL modem and I'm wondering if I'm missing something\non my wish list.\n\narthur","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\nLaser holes are (or were) used to prevent someone from making exact copies \nof a disk. You do not want to write to the damaged disk, only read and use \nthe programs.\n\n\nI remember a program called Copywrite that could copy a disk with a laser \nhole in it. I think it simulates the laser hole. After copying the disk the \nprogram is, if necessary, used in conjunction with a program called Nokey or \nsomething. (The program tells you which program to use)\n\nNo solution.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Has anyone had experience buying computers from Comtrade?  When I asked about \nTC, I got one reply describing problems returning a defective hard drive.\nShould I expect any problems from Comtrade?\n\nThanks,","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nThe borders of the Jewish state as drawn by the U.N. included the areas which\ncontained mostly Jews,  that's what the surveys and the numerous commitees\nwhere after when they visited here.\n\n\nI never touched an Arab during my army service and never voted for anyone more\nright than the Green party.  Will I be spared by these \"humanist standards\"?\n(or will anyone stop to consider this before sloughtering me?)\n\nI doubt it.  And not only because of the past record of murdering helpless\nwomen and children since the turn of the century up to these days.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"What about including points?  Probably no goals (at least against\nopponents) but there have been several assists given.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"It does sound funny, I will admit.  But for me it is true.  Windows crashed on\nall of the time (and from what I have read in PC Mag, this is not the exception)\n.  OS\/2 gives each windows app a VDM and they can't touch each other or\n(generally) anything they aren't supposed to have.  If windows works for you,\nthen great.  Maybe this is why some people don't see why OS\/2 is the OS of \nchoice.  If windows doesn't crash on you, and you don't mind waiting on each\ntask, and not being able to adress your memory better than DOS, some of the\nkey reasons for using OS\/2 are gone.  I probably  would still use it, but it\nwould be more of an even fight.\nBrett \n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nThe thing is, I know what arms and legs are.  It's therefore generally easy to\ntell whether or not someone has arms and legs.  This \"sinful nature\", since it\ndoes not require that the baby actually perform any sins, seems to be totally\ninvisible.  As far as I know, maybe half the babies have a sinful nature and\nhalf don't--it'd look exactly the same, since there is no way to tell the\ndifference.\n\n\nSo what's so bad about a sinful nature, then?  I could understand it being\nbad if it always results in people committing sins, but babies can have it,\nnever commit sins, die, and they still have it.  So the bad part about can't\nmerely be that it results in people committing sins--so what _is_ bad about it?\n--\n\"On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Leftover Turkey!\nOn the second day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Turkey Casserole\n    that she made from Leftover Turkey.\n[days 3-4 deleted] ...  Flaming Turkey Wings! ...\n   -- Pizza Hut commercial (and M*tlu\/A*gic bait)","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nThat's the trouble: *what* peak years?  He wavers between excellent and\nvery good, with no real bell-shaped pattern in there.  1979 was a fine\nyear; 78 and 80 were merely really good.  With the Yankees, 84 (I think)\nwas the best; that was the one with the .340 BA.  \n\nOf course, 1992 wasn't bad, either.  He's been in the bigs since 1973,\nwith a one-year intermission for surgery.  Though he doesn't have the\nmix of skills that Pete Rose did, he's like Pete Rose in one way: he's \nnot a natural hitter.  Winfield's swing used to be the ugliest thing\nin New York, and that includes the Gulf+Western Building.  But his sheer\nathletic prowess and physical size made up for a lot.  \n\nFascinating player to watch, even now.  Not obviously great in any one\nway; but able to do quite a few things in surprising ways and at surprising\nlevels.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Ilyess sez: \n  >So how would have *you* defended Saudi Arabia and rolled \n  >back the Iraqi invasion, were you in charge of Saudi Arabia??? \n  \n  All Muslims knew that the whole thing was set up to destroy Iraq, not \n  to \"Liberate Kuwait\", The people who were killed by the invasion are \n  more (many many more), than the ones that were killed by the Iraqis \n  in their smaller invasion. I lived in the west, and I have seen how \n  your media prepared you (helpless naive Americans) for a war against \n                                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ \nNo doubt you plan on exploiting \"helpless naive Americans\" for your own\npurposes. Hmm...let's see: \n\n  Iraq even before the artificial conflict between Iraq and Kuwait that \n  led to the invasion, as the CIA correctly predicted (and pretended to \n  be surprised not to know). \n  It just happened that Saddam was so predictible and so arrogant and stupid. \n\n  What would I have done: Most Muslims would choose 300 dead Kuwaitis   over \n  200,000 dead Iraqis and 1000 dead Kuwaitis. The first case would happen \n  if no western intervention happened, and the second case was a direct \n  or indirect result of western envolvement. \n\nPossibly, if 200,000 Iraqis had indeed died, but this number is based on\nGreenpeace estimates.  Greenpeace had compromised its alleged\nimpartiality during the war by condemning the potential environmental\nconsequences of Allied miiltary action, while initially *completely*\nignoring Iraq's horrible environmental crimes, starting with the dumping\nof millions of barrels of oil into the Gulf at Ahmadi to the blowing of\nover 700 oil wells.  What is the real number?  There has been a lot of\nwork on this in the last two years, none of it reported as the\nGreenpeace figure seems to get continuously bandied about.  The real\nnumber seems to be around 10,000, on the same order as the number of\nKuwaitis killed, tortured and kidnapped during the occupation.  I've\nincluded an article I recently posted below, but this is really old\nnews.  Independent Television News reported a figure around 15,000 only\na few months after the war, but it was hardly reported. \n\nFor the Allies to have killed 200,000 Iraqis, they would have had to\nkill twice the *total* number of Iraqis in Kuwait. \n\nThe favored image of the hysterics is the last battle of the war at\nMutla'.  This was yet another example of the American and European media\nplaying into the hands of Iraq and its de facto allies.     The\ndestruction of the Iraqi convoy at Mutla' was portrayed as an all-out\nslaughter.  This is simply not true.  The head and tail of the convoy\nwas bombed initially, resulting in a lot of casualties at these points. \n Before bombers came back, most of the rest of the Iraqi soldiers fled\non foot. \n\nFurthermore, your estimates of Kuwaiti war dead if Allies hadn't invaded\nis completely ridiculous.  You have acknowledged (certainly implicitly) \n that Saddam is a barbarous brute.  You have acknowledged the hundreds\nof thousands he has been responible for killing *in his own country*. \nYou *know* that the man he appointed as governor of Kuwait,  Ali Majid,\nwas his most brutal henchman, presiding over the near genocide of the\nKurds  in the late 80's and, more recently, the Shi'a.    Yet, when it\ncomes to his treatment of Kuwaitis, he is an angel.  In your estimate,\nhe would've killed *fewer* than he already had when the war started. \nWhat a joke! \n\n\nAPn  03\/09 0006  Iraq War Dead \n\nCopyright, 1993. The Associated Press. All rights reserved. ","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nSome of the survivors have been \"interviewed\" on TV as they were going\nto or returning from court. They basically said, no way was there any\nkind of suicide pact or attempt.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I have seen the existance of electronics solder with a 2% silver\ncontent that seems to have good wetting and fatique reatings.\n  Can anyone tell me why it is not used? (silver is not such an expensive\nmetal).\n\n\nAndy","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nIf you don't agree with Joseph's accurate statement of the Catholic dogma\nof Mary's perpetual sinlessness, then how do you interpret Luke 1:28,\n\n\tAnd when the angel had come to her, he said, \"Hail, full of \n\tgrace, the Lord is with thee.  Blessed art thou among women.\"\n\nand Luke 1:48? \n\n\t...for, behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.\n\nI suppose that these verses might be interpreted to mean that Mary was\npossessed of some limited quantity or quality of grace, just as some of \nfilled to the brim, incapable of containing more.  The only other people we \nknow of who have an abundance of grace are those souls existing in heaven now \n(another Catholic dogma, based on the communion of saints, as I explained in \nan earlier post).  Full of grace to me means sinless, and anyone who has \never sinned in his life cannot be without sin in the same sense as Mary  \nwas sinless.  \n\nAs a Catholic, I too find certain of the dogmas tough to embrace.  But\nthat's where the Catholic faith and prayer come into play.  I pray God\nto strengthen my will to accept the faith given the bride of Christ,\nwhich in turn usually strengthens my community faith in His Church.  And,\nas you probably know, faith in Christ's Church is tantamount to faith in\nChrist inasmuch as the Church is Christ's Mystical Body.  A Catholic by\nnature must have two aspects to his faith in Christ: (1) a personal faith in \nChrist as his own personal redeemer and (2) a community faith in the Church \nas the body of Christ.\n\n \n-- \nRandal Lee Nicholas Mandock \nCatechist\ngt7122b@prism.gatech.edu ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nThe main effect of the spherical aberration problems with the\nprimary mirror was to drive the computer engineers to develop the image\nprocessing software that much faster. When they use the _same_ deconvolution \nsoftware on the images from the fixed Hubble, be ready for some \nincredible results!  There is every reason to believe that the results will \n_exceed_ the original specs by a fair margin.  \n\nAdaptive optics is a combination of hardware and software.  It works \nrealtime, not after the fact, as is the case with Hubble.  You might be\ninterested to know this technology has made it to the amateur market, in\nthe form of the AO-2 Adaptive Optics System.  Starting on page 52 of the \nApril, 1993 Sky & Telescope is a three page review of this new product.\nIt lists for $1,290.  The article states: \"The AO-2 Adaptive Optics System \ncomes in a handy soft-plastic case that a three-year-old could carry \naround.\"  Even though this device is really only good for the brightest\nobjects, \"it could cope with image movements of up to 0.8 millimeter\nin the telescope's focal plane.\"  Now just imagine how well this infant \ntechnology will do in a few years, especially in a dedicated system that \nhas hundreds of thousands of dollars, and many man-hours invested in its\ndevelopment.\n\nGeorge Krumins","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
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{"text":"Wonder if anyone would know where (or if) I could find the schematic for the \nold Timex-sinclare (sp) computer... Or even a pin out on the expansion bus??","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I'm posting this request again since the last one had no title.\n \n  I'm looking for X server software on DOS or Windows.\n \n  I've already seen Desqview\/X and XVision but would like to be aware\n of other solutions, namely public domain or shareware implementations.\n \n  I'd also like to know, in the commercial case, about possible problems,\n incompatibilities, available window managers and libraries, etc.\n \n  If you have any experiences in this area please let me know.\n \n\n  C U!\n \n  By(e)","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Radio Shack stores sell them here in the States. Not sure if\nInterTan is carrying these for Australia or not...\n\nCost is $6 USD. You charge them under a fluorescent, then\nthey glow when exposed to IR.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nYou are not sticking to the original question. Imagine what it\nwould be like if you were human...impossible you say?\n\n\n\nIs that not the crux of my argument? Why is this so difficult\nfor you to understand? Lack of intelligence?\n\n\n\nWell, does it change the fact that during the period of 1914 to 1920, \nthe Armenian Government ordered, incited, assisted and participated \nin the genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people because of race, religion\nand national origin?\n\n1) Armenians did slaughter the entire Muslim population of Van.[1,2,3,4,5]\n2) Armenians did slaughter 42% of Muslim population of Bitlis.[1,2,3,4]\n3) Armenians did slaughter 31% of Muslim population of Erzurum.[1,2,3,4]\n4) Armenians did slaughter 26% of Muslim population of Diyarbakir.[1,2,3,4]\n5) Armenians did slaughter 16% of Muslim population of Mamuretulaziz.[1,2,3,4]\n6) Armenians did slaughter 15% of Muslim population of Sivas.[1,2,3,4]\n7) Armenians did slaughter the entire Muslim population of the x-Soviet\n   Armenia.[1,2,3,4]\n8)....\n\n[1] McCarthy, J., \"Muslims and Minorities, The Population of Ottoman \n                   Anatolia and the End of the Empire,\" New York \n                   University Press, New York, 1983, pp. 133-144.\n\n[2] Karpat, K., \"Ottoman Population,\" The University of Wisconsin Press,\n                 1985.\n\n[3] Hovannisian, R. G., \"Armenia on the Road to Independence, 1918. \n                         University of California Press (Berkeley and \n                         Los Angeles), 1967, pp. 13, 37.\n\n[4] Shaw, S. J., 'On Armenian collaboration with invading Russian armies \n                  in 1914, \"History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey \n                  (Volume II: Reform, Revolution & Republic: The Rise of \n                  Modern Turkey, 1808-1975).\" (London, Cambridge University \n                  Press 1977). pp. 315-316.\n\n[5] \"Gochnak\" (Armenian newspaper published in the United States), May 24, \n              1915.\n\n\nSource: Jorge Blanco Villalta, 'Ataturk,' TKK, 1979, pg. 234.\n     \n\"They [Armenians] did not refrain from giving in to their racial \n hatred and committing acts of cruelty and massacres against the\n Moslem population, which were encouraged by the 'Tashnak' party,\n mortal enemies of Turkey.\"\n\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nI had a '82 Saab 900 Turbo, and now have a '87 BMW 325is\n\nThere is no comparison for handling, reliability, or overall quality of\nengineering. The BMW wins hands down. After 5 years I was sick and tired\nof the all the little problems and entropic decay of the SAAB. The 6-year\nold BMW is still as sweet as it was new.\n\nBut I see you are posting from western MA. BMW's **SUCK** in the snow.\nI have aggressive snows, plus a hundred pounds of sand in the back, and I\nstill try to avoid driving in the snow. I happily took the SAAB through\nblizzard conditions without a worry. I would say this is the single design\nflaw in the BMW.\n ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nUsing greenhouses to extend the growing season shouldn't be a problem.\nI'm supprised they don't do so in Alaska (cheaper to import, perhaps?)\n\n\nNo, the Incas had no problems with this, but the Spanish did.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nNot when your talking about cryptography.\n\n\nThink again.  You won't see me using apple's new signature from the\nfinder feature.\n\n\nThis analogy fails in its assumption that the government gives two\nsquirts about credibility.\n\n\nIn addition, Apple's proclaimed purpose in releasing the Macintosh wasn't\nsurvellience.\n\nQuite the opposite:\n\"On January 24, Apple will introduce.... Macintosh, and you'll see why\n1984 won't be, like '1984'\"\n\nSo don't give me any bullshit analogies about how we trust coke not to\nput mind control drugs in every can to get us to buy more.\n\n\n\nOne of the reasons we should be all the more suspicious.  When was the\nlast time the president wasted his time to comfort americans?\nJust another reason to look closely at exactally what's going on.\n\n\nuni@acs.bu.edu","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\tMaybe you should contact your schools officials and make \nthem consider installing the necessary softwares or hardwares that\nallows the Unix works stations to shuts off its monitor when \nleft untouched.  It does save a lot of energy.               \n\n- Chung Yang","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nIsn't there some *formal* action a citizen can take that *requires* the\nFCC to, at least, generate some paperwork?\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nFor those who are interested, the FCC does indeed care about cable\nleakage, particularly into the aviation nav band, or leakage that\nis \"causing interference to other services\".\n\nPart 76.611 details specific limits to acceptable leakage, and\nmeasurement technique.  If you will clearly document your problem,\nand measurement technique (a signal level meter with dipole is the\nnormal approach, remember to correct between measurement data and\nmicrovolts per meter) and fax or mail the details to Mr. John Wong\nCable Branch, FCC 1919 M st. NW Wash DC, and a copy of your letter\nto the local cable company, you will get results.  In fact the cable\ncompany will probably start treating you much better when they realize\nyou have figured out how to get the FCCs attention.\n\nWhat is important is to document your case as it relates to the\napplicable rules.  However the cable company *is required* to\nat least check out every complaint of leakage.  They must file\nwith the commission and maintain on premises a yearly measurement\nreport that details the results of leakage testing.\n\nBut remember, call the cable company first, and give them a\nchance to work to correct the problem before contacting\nthe commission.\n\nI am in the business of measuring cable system leakage via\nthe airborne method.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"The copyright notices themselves seem to be making conficting\nrestrictions.  I do not know how to reconcile:\n\n\/* Copyright Notice\n * ================\n * Copyright 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993 by John Bradley\n * \n * Permission to use, copy, and distribute XV in its entirety, for \n * non-commercial purposes, is hereby granted without fee, provided that\n * this license information and copyright notice appear in all copies.\n *\n\n... with:\n\n *\n * XV is shareware for PERSONAL USE only.  You may use XV for your own\n * amusement, and if you find it nifty, useful, generally cool, or of\n * some value to you, your non-deductable donation would be greatly\n * appreciated.  $25 is the suggested donation, though, of course,\n * larger donations are quite welcome.  Folks who donate $25 or more\n * can receive a Real Nice bound copy of the XV manual for no extra\n * charge.\n * \n * Commercial, government, and institutional users MUST register their\n * copies of XV, for the exceedingly REASONABLE price of just $25 per\n * workstation\/X terminal.  Site licenses are available for those who\n * wish to run XV on a large number of machines.  Contact the author\n * for more details.\n...\n\nIt strikes me that the first part gives you the right to use, without\nfee, the program for noncommercial purposes if the info appears in all\ncopies. This seems to cover educational institutions despite what the\nrest of the notice says.  And the first part doesn't say subject to\nthe conditions outlined below... \n\nChris","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n   Romans 10:16-17 \"But not all the Israelites accepted the good news.  For\n   Isaiah says, 'Lord, who has believed our message?'  Consequently, faith\n   comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word\n   of Christ.\"\n\n   So then we receive God's gift of faith to us as we hear the message of the\n   gospel.  Faith is a possible response to hearing God's word preached.  Kids\n   are not yet spiritually, intellectually, or emotionally mature enough to\n   respond to God's word.  Hence they cannot have faith and therefore cannot\n   be raised in baptism to a new life.\n\nCatholics view the effects of Baptism slightly differently, and that's\none primary reason why they baptize babies.  They believe that Baptism\nproduces a change in the soul of the baby, quite independently of any\nvolitional act on the part of the baby.  This change in the baby's\nsoul gives the infant certain capabilities that he would not have\nwithout Baptism.  Since the infant does not have the use of his\nintellect and will yet, these new faculties are dormant.  But as the\nchild gets older, the gifts of Baptism come more and more into play.\n\n   Ezekiel 18:20 \"The soul who sins will die.  The son will not share the\n   guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son.  The\n   righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and the\n   wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him.\"\n\n   If you read all of Ezekiel 18, you will see that God doesn't hold us guilty\n   for anyone else's sins.  So we can have no original guilt from Adam.\n\nAdam was given a number of gifts by God.  The chief among them was\nwhat Catholics call \"sanctifying grace\".  (In the New Testament, the\nword used for this is \"charity\".)  By his sin, Adam lost this grace.\nHe didn't lose it just for himself, however, he lost it for the whole\nhuman race.  Because once he lost it, he couldn't pass it on to his\ndescendents.\n\nThat's why Catholics baptize babies.  Through his Original Sin, Adam\nlost sanctifying grace for all his descendents.  Christ instituted\nBaptism to give it back to everyone.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"<> Somebody asked me what was wrong about overreacting in cases such as this.\n<\n<That was probably me.\n<I meant only that nobody has overreacted yet.  It seemed to me that\n<Jerry was suggesting that people are currently overreacting, and I \n<vehemently disagree.  I see a lot of talk, but not much action.\n<I see now that I misunderstood Jerry's position.\n<\n<> The reason is very simple:  How many people do you want to die in a riot? \n<> In a new Civil War? \n<>\n<> Everybody is jumping up and down and screaming about it, and I'm worried\n<> that people are going to reach for their hammers and rifles before their pens\n<> and paper.  \n<\n<Not this bunch.  They'll just bitch on the Net for a while, and \n<then go back to lurking.\n<\n<> Can people work within the system before trying to break it?  Examine your\n<> history books, and find out how many armed revolutions led to Democratic\n<> (or Democratic style) governments.  I think you'll only find one in over\n<> five thousand years of written history.\n<\n<Actually, it's not quite that bad, but it's close.\n\nI think everyone would just as soon work within the system.  The presence\nof the POSSIBILITY of using the bullet box instead of the ballot box\nis supposed to be a deterrent - by keeping the price of massive abuse\nunacceptable.  However, governments being what they are, sure would\nlike to REMOVE that deterrence, which will make the need for armed\ncitizens all the more great (you don't need 'em till you don't have 'em).\nThen I think we can be more accurately called 'subjects' instead of\n'citizens'.  The idea of the people being sovereign over the government\nis sure not in vogue in the Beltway these days, that is for sure...\nThe Administration is saying \"We know best.  We will tell you what\nyou need, or don't need...\"  \"After, that old-fashioned anachronism\ncalled the Bill of Rights is not needed in these 'enlightened times'...\n\n<Look, we (collectively) have the power to throw the bums out, but we\n<don't use it.  We clearly don't need to go burning things down, but we\n\nNot if the government has its way:  There are EIGHT bills before Congress\nthat will either ban, tax exhorbitantly, or register all useful weapons\nin the hands of the unconnected US subject.   Can you say $200.00 just\nfor a box of cartridges for practice?  One of the current Administrations\ntop priority items is to disarm all who are not well-connected, or that\nwork for the government.\n\n<clearly do need to throw at least some of the bums out.\n<Unfortunately, the bums have learned to target only small groups of\n<people at a single time, so the masses won't react and throw them out.\n<Eventually, the masses will react, unless the bums cease their\n<relentless encroachment on liberty and despoilment of the economy.\n<The sooner it happens, the less the damages will be.  I don't want to\n<live in a war zone, either -- I want to see the bums thrown out before\n<they do some *real* damage.\n\nAnother tactic is to toss out so many outrages at once that nobody can\ngive justice to them all.  Like is being done RIGHT NOW.\n\n<Lyle\t\tTransarc\t\t707 Grant Street\n<412 338 4474\tThe Gulf Tower\t\tPittsburgh 15219\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nInfact on tuesday, the Bosnian foreign minister asked formally the UN to leave Bosnia,\njust to show how much hypocracy is there in Europe. These so called UN is actually\nhelping Serbs carry out their etnic-clensing\/murders\/rapes. In Zepa the UN effectively\nhelped the Serbs carry out their heinous crimes by spreading conflicting reports that\nnothing was going on there. The cowards, or so called UN peacemakers, only \"attempted\" to \ngo out there for a fact finding mission -as if with all the ham-radio operators were lying\nand all the US war planes out there have no means of flying over there. This is the biggest\nfarce in the history of the world and the same act has been repeated over and over again in\ndifferent beseiged Bosnian towns....\n\nYes! I heard today that the president of Bosnia- under pressure from the \"civilized nations\"\nhas appealed to the UN to stay there in Bosnia. He should know better..\n\nThese hypocrates (Sadly! it includes Clinton administration too) all came out and said\nthat the call for a referendum from bosnian serbian perliment (or a bunch of\nrapists\/criminals) is a farce and yet they have to wait for the result of this referendum\nto act.... \n\nFor those of you who are against US to commit ground troops, fine just lift the arms-embargo on BOTH\nsides (since we know that serbs always got the heavy weapons form federal army). \n\nWake up West!! and admit that you are the most uncivilized, the most hypocratic and the most violent\nbunch on this earth...\n\n\n\n-Khalid\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"From article <1r19l9$7dv@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, by oldham@ces.cwru.edu (Daniel Oldham):\n\nThey did have the proper equipment.  The problem is that they went about\nthings the wrong way.  The ATF should have served the warrant in a\npeacable manner instead of going in there like a bunch of Rambos with\nguns blazing.  I'm not trying to excuse what David Koresh did.  I'm\njust saying that the ATF (henceforth to be known as the cigarette cops :-)\nwent about the \"raid\" in an improper manner.\n\n\nLet the FBI, Customs, and local police officers do the ATF's job.  WE\nDON'T NEED THEM ANYMORE!!!  The cigarette cops are just leftovers\nfrom Prohibition days.  They are an anachronism!\n\n\nIncluding you?  What if the cigarette cops kicked down your door and\ncut you in half with a machine gun?  THIS COULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN.\nMaybe they get the wrong address and then raid *your* home, for example.\nIt's happened before and it can happen *again*.  I have heard of more\nthan one instance of a no-knock raid going sour.  Just recently I\nheard about a case in which police raided this guy's home because they\nthought he had dope or something.  The guy blew both of the officers\naway and he didn't go to jail for it.  The judge hearing the case\nruled that the man was acting in self-defense.\n\n\nAre you sure that that would have been the way to go?  Surely the FBI\nand ATF could have handled this fiasco better.  They didn't have to\nmassacre all those people.  As Stimpy said in \"Fake Dad\", \"Shame, shame,\ndouble shame!\"  The FBI and ATF should be ashamed of theirselves. \n\n\nScott Kennedy,  Brewer and Patriot","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Hi, folks out there !\n\nI don't know whether I am in the right newsgroup, but I have a question.\n\nIf I am completely wrong here in this group, could you mail me the right name  \nof the correct newsgroup ?\n\nA friend of mine is studying electronics at the Technical University in  \nKarlsruhe\/Germany since one year.\n\nHe wants to know whether there are possibilities to study audio control  \nengineering in the U.S.A. .\n\nDoes anybody know how to get information about these studies in the U.S.A. ?\nCould you send me information like (e-mail)adresses of the universities,  \n\"quality\" of these studies, and so on ?\n\nIs it possible to e-mail the universities directly to get information ?\n\nDo the universities send information via e-mail ?\n\nPlease could you answer via e-mail, because I don't read this newsgroup  \nregularly.\n\n\nThanks in advance.\n\nStephan Jaeger","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I have a few the original IBM 10Mb harddisks for sale. They are actually\nSeagate's ST412, MFM, full height,  has the IBM logo and black face plate. \n \n  Each disk is checked and formatted with DOS 5.0. It can be doubled to \n20Mb or so with dblspace or stacker if you so desire.  Have the original IBM\nfoam fitted boxies and anti-static bags. I am not sure if they were ever \nused, but each drive that is sent out will be quarenteed in good working order. \n \n $30 each plus shipping cost, (about $5), ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Simple, eh?","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nSounds to me like your dealer really wants to get rid of the IIvx's he has in\nstock.  I can imaging that they are getting hard to sell, given that \n 1. a C610 is way faster, and is comparable in price.\n 2. an LCIII is about the same speed, and is way cheaper.\nSo your dealer may well be trying as hard as he can to convince people\nthat IIvx's are a much better buy than a C610 just so he can get rid of all\nhis old stock!\n\nNo disrespect to dealers or the IIvx intended!\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Claris Filemaker Pro Database Manager for MacIntosh, still unpackaged.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\tI wonder how hard it would be (i.e. what it would add to the cost)\nto design desktop machines with a power saver feature built in which would\nreduce power consumption automatically if the machine is idle for more than\nsome amount of time.  This is pretty standard in portable machines, and the\nsame kinds of tricks could be played; spinning down disks, turning off\nscreens, reducing clock speed, etc.  The advantage of this over just turning\nthe thing off would be 1) you don't have to remember to do anything and 2)\nthe machine is still available over the network.\n\n\tThe tricky part might be in defining what constitutes inactivity.\nCertainly, you don't want to wake up from sleep mode just because somebody\npinged you, but you do want to wake up (at least the CPU) if somebody\nlogs in via a telnet connection.\n\n\tI wouldn't worry too much about wasting electricity in the winter\nmonths; that energy is just getting turned into heat.  It may not be as\nefficient a way to heat a building as the central heating plant, but it's\nnot too bad.  In the summer though, it's a disaster.  Not only are you\nwasting that power, but you're probably also running the air conditioning to\nget rid of the waste heat.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n[i agree wholeheartedly!!]\n\n\nnot sure about there in CA, but here in US, the manuals are quite often the\nstandard equipment.  Of course, FINDING a car with one might be hard, but\nif you read the sticker on the window, there is usally an additional 2k or\nso tacked on for that lousy  tranny.  So you actually ARE paying more, just\nthat it's sometimes hard to find one that is equipped \"standard\".  (this\napplies to MOST cars, but not to the luxoyachts..eg caddilac, licolns, etc..)\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Yes, it's easy to use. It's just like an ordinary controller.\nYou don't have to change the bios config.\n\nIt's transparent. It works with any drive. If you change the\ndrive you only need to change the bios config. as usual.\n\nYes, no problem.\n\nThat depends. You will get a little better performance\nif you use smartdrive and buffers in addition. That's\nbecause access to the card through the ISA bus is slower\nthan access to system RAM. I don't use smartdrive myself,\nbut I have a few buffers.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^      ^^^                               ^^^^^^^\n^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\nMy vivid imagination sez this is almost close enuff.\n\n$mail_to 00cjmelching@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu \/users\/neal\/dod\/faq.dod\n\nbut...... naw!!!\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Try this one, a favorite around here:\n\nBureau of Assholes, Tightwads, and Facists.\n\nAnd remember, they were created by the Infernal Revenue Code.\n\n\t\t\t--msa\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":" \n(Deletion)\n \nThe reference to it's not yet being ethics is dubious. You have used the terms\nabsolute, objective and others interchangeably. Same with moral values, values,\nat all, worth, measuers, and usefulness. You infer from them as if they were\nthe same.\n \nTo the IF. When the If is not fulfilled, your intermission is a waste of time.\nAssuming that you don't intend this, it is reasonable to conclude that you\nwant to argue a point.\n \nYou have made a interesting statement here, namely that of the disinterested\nobserver. There is no such thing in morals. Probably the shortest proof for\nobjective and morality being a contradiction.\n \n \n \nFine. And that freedom is valuable is not generally agreed upon. I could\nname quite a lot of people who state the opposite. (Not that that wasn't\nmentioned before). In other words, you have nothing to fulfill your strong\nclaims with.\n \n \n \nClutching a straw. I don't believe in mappings into metaphysical sets were\nloaded terms are fixpoints. Those who deny the morality of freedom make quite\nclear what they say, their practice is telling. Yes, there are even those who\nare willingly unfree. It is quite common in religions, by the way. For one,\nthere is a religion which is named Submission.\n \nDon't even try to argue that submission is freedom.\n \n \n \nIf it were so, it would argue my case. But I am afraid that that is considered\nproof.\n \n ","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I have a 386 clone, and an internal modem set to COM4.\nIt worked fine until I upgraded to DOS 6.0 and at the\nsame time reloaded Windows 3.1  Now the system can't\nfind COM4; MSD says COM4 is \"N\/A\", and three of my\nfour comm programs say \"hardware not present\" or some\nsimilar error message.  Procomm, however, finds the modem\nno problem and works fine!  Curiouser and curiouser.  Any\nhints\/help?  Thanks.\n\nMike\nm14494@mwvm.mitre.org","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Hi there,\n\n    I plan on upgrading my monitor and video card to 1280x1024. I have\n    a DX2\/66 ISA (no local bus) system. I would appreciate if anyone can \n    drop me an email of your experience with high-resolution\n    video board\/monitor. Thanks.\n\n-Ming T. Lin\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nMy interpretation of Denning's description is that S1 and S2 are chosen\nrandomly by agents of the key escrow companies at the start of each 300-\nchip programming session.  I imagine that the chips are in a carrier which\nwill allow them all to be programmed fairly quickly - there would not be\na need to transfer chips one at a time into a little PLA programmer as some\npeople have envisioned.\n\nMy guess as to why this procedure is used is that basing the keys on the\nS1 and S2 using a specified algorithm provides an (in-principle) checkable\nway to verify that no back doors exist in the choice of the random numbers\nused to generate the keys.  Since we have to trust the escrow companies\nanyway, it does not weaken the system to have the keys be generated from\nrandom seeds entered by the escrow agents.  And since the algorithm for\nkey-generation is public (modulo Skipjack secrecy) then in principle an\nagent could challenge the procedure, ask for S1 and S2 to be exposed, and\nrun his own independent calculation of U1 and U2 to verify that that is\nwhat is actually being put onto the floppies.\n\nAnd yes, there are many ways in which failures to follow this scheme could\nbe hard to check.  The laptop probably will not really be destroyed each\ntime.  Hidden cameras in the ceiling could see the S1 and S2 entered by\nthe trusted escrow agents.  Back doors in the chip could allow U to be\nrecovered.  Heck, each chip could be recorded with the same U, ignoring\nwhat was on the floppy.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
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{"text":"I'm trying to get a hold of an IBM Quietwriter II printer driver for\nWindows 3.1. If such a beast exists, can someone suggest how I get\nit? Please mail me a reply directly as I don't normally read this\ngroup. Many thanks.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nYeah, it's impossible to be a tough biker when a 5 year old\nstarts waving at you.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nSounds as though you are confused between \"what I want\" and \"what\nI think is morally right\".","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nIt depends on wether you are going to replace this with an icon that\ncomes standard with windows, or with an icon from some other icon manager.\n\nWell, if it is one of those that comes with windows, just highlight the \nitem by clicking once on it, click on 'File' and then on 'Properties'.\nYou should see a box which says 'Change icon'. Click on it. You are going\nto be presented with some icons (sometimes just one). If you don't like\nany of those presented, click on the 'browse' box, and look for the file\n'moricons.dll' Select it. Browse through the icons presented, and just\ndouble click on your desired icon.\n\nIf you want to replace it with an icon from some other icon manager,\nsay iconPower for instance, open the icon manager at the bottom of your\nscreen, where it will not block the application icon you wish to replace.\nWhen you have found your desired icon, click on it once, and while holding\nthe mouse button down, pull this icon over the one you wish to change.\nAnd thats it!\n\nregards\n\n___________________________________________________________________________","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nI do not understand what you are saying here.  What is improved, what \nis Significant, and what does this have to do with carrying more \nequipment on a servicing mission?  Also, as implied by other posters, why \ndo you need to boost the orbit on this mission anyway?  Maybe you have \nsomething here, but could you please clarify it for us on the net? \n\n\nFrom what I've heard, the motors are fine - it is one of the two \nsets of electronics that control the motors that needs a fix.  The \nmotors and electronics are separate pieces of hardware.  I expect \nto be corrected if I'm wrong on this. ","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n  close. Universal Asynchronous Receiver Transmitter.\n\n\n   Even if you are running DOS, if your CPU can't handle the speed of the\ninterrupts, you will still lose characters.  I have one 286\/10 machine with\nan external 9600 bps modem attached and can't drive the serial port any faster \nthan 19.2k without losing characters.\n\n\n\n                                           Rob\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I recall a discussion I had heard years ago. It went something like this: \nThe problem with omnipotence (at least as I perceive it) as personified by \nthe christian God ideal is that it is potentially contradictory.  If a \nmanifestation such as God is truly infinite in power can God place limits \nupon itself?\n.\n.\nSome stuff I can't recall.\nThen some other questions I think I recall correctly:\nCan God unmake itself?\nCan God make itself (assuming it doesn't yet exist)?\nHas God has always existed or is it necessary for an observer to bind all of\nGods potential quantum states into reality?\nWas God nothing more than a primordial force of nature that existed during\nthe earliest stages of universal (inflationary?) creation?\nIs God a vacuum fluctuation?\nGiven a great enough energy density could we re-create God?\nWould that make US God and God something else?\n.\n.\nSome more stuff I don't recall concerning creating God.  Followed by:\nIs God self-aware?\nIs it necessary that God be self-aware?\nIs God a living entity?\nIs it necessay that God be a living entity?\nIs God unchanging or does it evolve?\n.\n.\nAny comments? Post them so that others might benefit from the open inquiry\nand resulting discussion.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\nTrue of all security sytems, I think, and it is the fundamental measure to \nbe used in establishing a requisite security level.\n\n-- ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"C A L L   F O R   V O T E\n-------------------------\n \nThis is the official Call For a Vote on the creation of 3 newsgroups\nfor those engaged or interested in all areas relating to the\nPUBLISHING OF ANY SORT OF CDROM MATERIAL. Please repost this CFV to any\nnewsgroup, listserver or reflector that you think might have a\ngroup interested in this subject in order to reach as broad an\naudience as possible. Every vote counts, so make sure you register\nyours if you want these groups to be created.\n\n \nProposed Groups\n---------------\ncomp.publish.cdrom.hardware\ncomp.publish.cdrom.software\ncomp.publish.cdrom.multimedia\n \nStatus\n------\nUnmoderated.\n \n\nVoting Period\n-------------\nFrom: The appearance of this posting\nTo:   23:59 EST, 21 May 1993\n\nHow To Vote\n-----------\nAll votes must be emailed to: manaster@yu1.yu.edu\nor sent as a reply to the originator of this CFV (manaster@yu1.yu.edu). \n\n-To vote, simply copy the example below and delete either the \"Yes\"\nor the \"No\" before each group to register your vote for or against\nthe creation of that group. A line containing \"Yes\/No\" as in the\nexample below, will be considered an abstention with respect to\nthat particular group. Note that each group will have its own\nseparate vote count and that you may split your vote for the groups\nor abstain as you will. Please provide your Name and E-mail address\nas shown in the example below.\n\n\t\tEmail your  vote following this\n\t\texample.....\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------\nSubject: Re: Vote on comp.publish.cdrom.*\n\t\nI  vote \"Yes\/No\" for the creation of \"comp.publish.cdrom.software\"\nI  vote \"Yes\/No\" for the creation of \"comp.publish.cdrom.hardware\"\nI  vote \"Yes\/No\" for the creation of \"comp.publish.cdrom.multimedia\"\n\n\t[Last Name], [First Name] [(E-mail Address)]\n\t.\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nVoting Rules\n------------\n-Only one vote per user (Two different people cannot vote under the\n same user name).\n-Any votes which are received before or after the voting period\n will be discarded.\n-Anyone who wants to change their previous vote may do so by voting\n again.  They must indicate that they have previously voted and are\n changing their mind in a footnote.  A changed vote will discard your\n previous vote.\n-Email messages sent to the above addresses must constitute unambiguous\n and unconditional votes for\/against newsgroup creation as proposed.\n Conditional votes will not be accepted.\n-Only votes emailed to the above addresses will be counted; mailed\n replies to this posting will be discarded.\n-In the event that more than one vote is placed by an individual, only\n the first vote will be counted unless it was changed as above.\n-No information will be supplied as to how people are voting until the\n final acknowledgment is made at the end, at which time the full vote\n will be made public.\n\nAmbiguous Votes\n---------------\nAmbiguous votes -- those who do not follow the specified format, or \ndo not make clear the voter's intent, will, where possible,  be \nreturned to their senders for clarification.  Ambiguous votes which \ncannot be returned to their senders or for which no clarification is \nprovided will be identified in the final vote tally.\n\nEvery Vote Counts........Feel free to Flood my mail!!!\n\n\nRationale\n---------\nThe rationale for this proposal is a need for those interested or\ninvolved in the publishing of cdrom materials to have a forum for\nthe discussion relating to their needs. At the moment the main fora\nfor such discussion are in alt.cd-rom and comp.multimedia neither\nof which have publishing as their focus. Some lists serve the\ngeneral cdrom community with focuses on library, government and\nnetwork usage, and until several weeks ago none were devoted \nto publishing (CDPub has just been setup). In any case a list is not,\nand ought not, be a replacement for regular usenet newsgroups.\n \nThe reason for the division into three groups is a natural\npartition of interest between the hardware and software topics,\nand between the two main focal points of software, i.e. fulltext\nand multimedia publishing. Topics such as CDROM XA, CDI, CD-R, \nPhoto CD and other related formats would be included as well. \nTopics related to cdrom publishing that are neither clearly\nhardware or software related such as books, copyright issues and\nother legal matters, packaging, distribution, could be included in\nthe purvue of comp.publish.cdrom.software, as would any other\nnonhardware or multimedia topic that relates in some way to cdrom\npublishing, in any format, and is appropriate to the Internet.\n \nThe main focus of comp.publish.cdrom.software would be topics such as\nindex and retrieval software, premastering software, cdrom\nsimulation software, hypertext, sgml, scanning and imaging\nsoftware, data capture software, data clean up, compression,\nencryption etc as relates to publishing cdroms.\n \nThe main focus of comp.publish.cdrom.multimedia would be software that\naids in the multimedia authoring and publishing process - audio and\nvideo.\n \nThe main focus of comp.publish.cdrom.hardware would be hardware that\nrelates to cdrom publishing, as well as hardware for data capture,\nsuch as all sorts of scanners and data capture hardware, as well as\ninformation that publishers need to know about the hardware that\nthe intended enduser will utilize (the hardware that will\neventually play the published cdrom) including networks for cdrom.\n \nNotes\n-----\nThese groups are not to be used for topics such as reviews or\nquestions relating to already published cdroms or reviews or\nquestions relating to general purpose cdrom drives and the like.\nRequests for help in installing a cdrom drive and other general\ntopics should be directed to other fora. Questions about cdroms\nmounted on LANs should be directed to bit.listserv.cdromlan.\n \nCharter\n-------\n \nProposed Charter -- COMP.PUBLISH.CDROM.SOFTWARE\n \nThe USENET newsgroup, comp.publish.cdrom.software, will be a newsgroup for \ndiscussion of the following example topics, but not limited to them:\n \n\tIndex and retrieval software\n \n\tAuthoring software\n \n\tScanning and imaging software\n \n\tOCR and OCR cleanup\n \n\tHypertext\n \n\tSGML\n \n\tPremastering and Simulation (cdrom) software\n \n\tCopyright and legal issues related to publishing cdroms\n \n\tOther nonhardware topics related to cdrom publishing\n \nProposed Charter -- COMP.PUBLISH.CDROM.HARDWARE\n \nThe USENET newsgroup, comp.publish.cdrom.hardware, will be a newsgroup for \ndiscussion of the following example topics, but not limited to them:\n \n\tCD-R equipment\n \n\tData capture hardware\n \n\tScanners\n \n\tVideo and audio capture hardware\n \n\tNetworking hardware\n \n\tMidi hardware\n \n\tPhoto CD hardware\n \n\tPublishing systems\n \n\tCDI and DVI hardware\n \n\tCompression and encryption hardware\n \n\tKeyboarding\n \n\tOther hardware publishing topics\n \nProposed Charter -- COMP.PUBLISH.CDROM.MULTIMEDIA\n \nThe USENET newsgroup, comp.publish.cdrom.multimedia will be a newsgroup for \ndiscussion of the following example topics, but not limited to them:\n \n\tMultimedia authoring software\n \n\tImaging software\n \n\tAudio and Midi software\n \n\tColor control software\n \n\tVideo editing software\n \n\tAudio editing software\n \n\tMultimedia utilities useful for publishers\n \n\tIntegration of text, image, audio and video\n \n\tCompression and encryption of multimedia\n \n\tMultimedia copyright and related legal issues\n \n\tMultimedia databases and hypertext\n \n\tOther multimedia publishing topics","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n > I'm leaning... SIRACH... is more directly referenced by JAMES\n > than JOB or RUTH is... in any NT verse I've seen.\n\nIt would help if you mentioned chapter and verse from SIRACH and\nfrom JAMES.\n\nJob 5:13 (\"He taketh the wise in their craftiness\") seems to be\nquoted in 1 Corinthians 3:19.\n\nJames 5:11 (\"You have heard of the patience of Job\"), while not a\nquote, implies that James and his listeners are familiar with a\nstory of a man named Job who exhibited exemplary patience. It is\npossible that the story they know is not that found in the Hebrew\nBible, but rather another similar and related story. (One has the\nsame problem with direct quotes.)\n\nAgain, Matthew 1:5 (\"Boaz begat Obed of Ruth\") tells us that Matthew\nknew a story about a woman named Ruth who married a man called Boaz\nand  became the ancestor of David. Since Ruth is not mentioned in\nthe OT outside the Book of Ruth, it seems likely that Matthew was\nfamiliar with the book and respected it, and thought Ruth important\nenough to be one of the few women mentioned in the genealogy.\n\nReferences like this do not prove that the NT writer considered his\nOT source inspired or inerrant or canonical. But neither do direct\nquotes.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nI don't know about you, but I have nearly forgotten how to generate paper\nmail.\n\nIf I had e-mail to Congress, I would have written many letters by now.\nI haven't written one yet, as it turns out.  Writing on paper is such\na complicated job, for those of us hooked on our way-cool Internet.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Alltronics in San Jose (408) 943-9773 sells the Votrax Sc-01 Speech Synthesis \nchip for about $5.00. Also I noticed that Radio Shack sells the ISD chip which\n will store small amounts of digitized speech. ","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nBzzzzzt! Wrong answer.  The UK tone dialling is identical to the US system. \nThe different settings on your modem are so that it uses CCITT V21 & V22 \ntones for data transmission, rather than Bell 103 & Bell 121 tones, which are \nused only in the USA and canada AFAIK.  As most people now use at least \nV22bis, this is largely irrelevant.\n\nTony\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n  What crap, Phil. 50mm? Wrong. To give you a clue as to how big 50mm is, the\n F-16 fighter aircraft have 20mm gattling guns used to shoot down other \n aircraft. A 50mm gun would be somewhere in the `cannon' realm. They might\n have had .50 calibre but definitely not 50mm. \n\n\n\n<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>\n\n Paul R. Busta\t                                    Busta@kozmic.enet.dec.com\n Salem,N.H.                                   \n 603-894-3962\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"The following comics are for auction.  The highest bid takes them! \n\nAll are near mint to mint condition!\n\n\nTITLE                                                   Minimum\/Current \n--------------------------------------------------------------\nAlpha Flight 51 (Jim Lee's first work at Marvel)\t$ 5.00\n\nAliens 1 (1st app Aliens in comics, 1st prnt, May 1988)\t$20.00\/KrisM.\/SOLD\n\nAmazing Spider-Man 136 (Intro new Green Goblin)         $20.00\n\nAmazing Spider-Man 238 (1st appearance Hobgoblin)\t$50.00\n\nArcher and Armstrong 1 (Frank Miller\/Smith\/Layton)\t$ 7.50\n\nAvengers 263 (1st appearance X-factor)                  $ 3.50\n\nBloodshot 1 (Chromium cover, BWSmith Cover\/Poster)\t$ 5.00\/SamE\/SOLD\n\nCyberRad 1 (Reintro CyberRad, Prestige silver edition)\t$15.00\n\nDaredevil 158 (Frank Miller art begins)                 $35.00\n\nDark Horse Presents 1 (1st app Concrete, 1st printing)\t$ 7.50 \n\nDetective 657 (Azrael appears, Intro Cypher)\t\t$ 5.00\n\nDetective 658 (Azrael appears)\t\t\t\t$ 4.00\n\nHarbinger 10 (1st appearance H.A.R.D. Corps)\t\t$ 7.00\/B.Matthey\/SOLD\n\nH.A.R.D. Corps 1 \t\t\t\t\t$ 5.00\n\nIncredible Hulk 324 (1st app Grey Hulk since #1 1962)\t$ 7.00\n\nIncredible Hulk 330 (1st McFarlane issue)\t\t$15.00\n\nIncredible Hulk 331 (Grey Hulk series begins)\t\t$11.00\n\nIncredible Hulk 367 (1st Dale Keown art in Hulk)        $15.00\n\nIncredible Hulk 377 (1st all new hulk, 1st prnt, Keown) $15.00\n\nMarvel Comics Presents 1 (Wolverine, Silver Surfer)     $ 7.50\n\nMarvel Presents (Charleston Chew giveaway, Sam Keith)\t$ 5.00\n\nMaxx Limited Ashcan (4000 copies exist, blue cover)\t$30.00\n\nMr T. #1 (Signed Advance copy, 10,000 exist)\t\t$10.00\n\nNew Mutants 86 (McFarlane cover, 1st app Cable - cameo)\t$10.00\n\nNew Mutants 100 (1st app X-Force)                       $ 5.00\n\nNew Mutants Annual 5 (1st Liefeld art on New Mutants)\t$10.00\n\nOmega Men 3 (1st appearance Lobo)                       $ 7.50\n\nOmega Men 10 (1st full Lobo story)                      $ 7.50\n\nPower Man & Iron Fist 78 (3rd appearance Sabretooth)    $20.00\n\nPower Man & Iron Fist 84 (4th appearance Sabretooth)    $15.00\n\nSimpsons Comics and Stories 1 (Polybagged special ed.)\t$ 7.50\n\nSpectacular Spider-Man 147 (1st app New Hobgoblin)      $12.50\n\nSpider-Man Special (UNICEF giveaway, vs Venom)\t\t$10.00\n\nStar Trek the Next Generation 1 (Feb 1988, DC mini)     $ 7.50\n\nStar Trek the Next Generation 1 (Oct 1989, DC comics)   $ 7.50\n\nTrianglehead #1 (Special limited edition, autographed)\t$ 5.00\n\nWeb of Spider-Man 29 (Hobgoblin, Wolverine appear)      $10.00 \n\nWeb of Spider-Man 30 (Origin Rose, Hobgoblin appears)   $ 7.50\n\nWolverine 10 (Before claws, 1st battle with Sabretooth)\t$15.00\n\nWolverine 41 (Sabretooth claims to be Wolverine's dad)\t$ 5.00\n\nWolverine 42 (Sabretooth proven not to be his dad)\t$ 3.50\n\nWolverine 43 (Sabretooth\/Wolverine saga concludes)\t$ 3.00\n\nWolverine 1 (1982 mini-series, Miller art)\t\t$20.00\n\nWonder Woman 267 (Return of Animal Man)                 $12.50\n\nX-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, X-Force card)     $20.00\n\nX-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Shatterstar card) $10.00\n\nX-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Deadpool card)    $10.00\n\nX-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Sunspot\/Gideon)   $10.00\n\n\nAll comics are in near mint to mint condition, are bagged in shiny \npolypropylene bags, and backed with white acid free boards.  Shipping is\n$1.50 for one book, $3.00 for more than one book, or free if you order \na large enough amount of stuff.  I am willing to haggle.\n\nI have thousands and thousands of other comics, so please let me know what \nyou've been looking for, and maybe I can help. ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nGravity?  Doesn't gravity pull down the photons and cause a doppler shift\nor something?\n\n\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Victor Johnson, on the Thu, 22 Apr 1993 00:01:10 GMT wibbled:\n\n: > }Honda:  a \"V\" designates a V engine street bike. \"VF\" for V-4, \"VT\" for V-twin.\n: > \n: > So how about my Honda Hawk (NT 650)? It's a twin, but not called a VT.\n: > -- \n\n:   That's because they took the old VT 500 engine and stepped on it to make\n:   the plant for the Hawk -> \"New Twin\".  Or does that only fly for Microsoft\n:   NT (New Technology)?\n\n:   I've been at this too long today ...\n\n:   Cheers,\n:   Victor \"Dances with Hawks\" Johnson\n:   ----------------------------------\n\n\nAlso the BMW stuff.  K100RS.  K = Kraut, RS = Really Slow,  100, I\nsuppose that's how much you have to spend each week to keep the damn\nthing on the road.\n--\n\nNick (the Pissed Off With His Bike Again Biker)   DoD 1069   Concise Oxford\n\nM'Lud.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Hi, I 've a series of images in sun raster formats. I've converted them\nto PCX formats (I can do the conversion to others like gif as well). I\nwould like to know of any software that is able to do animation for\nthese formats, and to record the animation onto a video tape.\n\nThank you.\n\n\n+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Suppose you want to change the particular icon for a program in\nwindows such as the MS-DOS one.  Would someone let me know how you can\ndo this?\n\nThanks a million.  ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I am think of buying a new computer through the mail order, I am looking at\nthe Gateway 2000 66V systen and the Zeos's system. Which is better (in terms of\nvalue, price, ungrade, service), because I am in canada, I wonder can i have\nthe same level of service as in the states? ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\tHuh?  Mohamed Salimeh was perhaps a Korean?  How do you claim\narab-americans had no involvement in the WTC bombing?\n\n\tOk, his involvement is alleged by the FBI, which doesn't seem\nto reliable these days.  But honestly, there is a pile of evidence\npointing to them, and it seems those 5 were involved.\n\n\tThis does not mean that all arab-americans were involved, nor\nshould they be blamed for it, but denying that there were some\narab-americans involved sounds sorta silly to me.\n\nAdam\nAdam Shostack \t\t\t\t       adam@das.harvard.edu","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Do all those who are saying the government is responsible for the death\nof those in the compound also say that the Isrealis are responsible\nfor the death of the Isreali athletes at the Olympics? Hey, the\nPalestinians and the Dividians COULD have given up peacefully ('yeah,\nand monkey could fly out my butt' - Wayne).","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Hello.\nI just like to share this rosary and other prayer propagation\npractice we do in my country.  I am not sure if it is going on\nalso here in the US or any other country.  In all these 4 1\/2\nyrs. I've been here in Illinois, USA, I have not encountered\nit.  May I just call it \"Traveling Fatima\" since I don't know\nof an exact translation of what we call it in my native language.\n\nFor certain regions in a district in a town or city, an image\/\nstatue of our Lady of Fatima is moved from one home (originating\nfrom owner) to another.  This will stay with that family for\none (1) week and this family is required to pray the rosary and\nother prayers (prayer sheets accompany the image) to our Lady\nof Fatima.  The move will be like a simple procession of folks\npicking up the image from its current 'home' after 'departing'\nprayers and proceeds to move it to the next home which has the\nprior notification about the move.  There will be the 'receiving'\nprayers at the next home to welcome our Lady of Fatima image\nthere.  It does not have to be that only members of the family\nin that home who must pray to the image.  They may invite others\n(or others\/friends can invite themselves in ;^)) to participate\nduring prayer time in that 'new' home everyday for one week.\nThis image is moved from one family to the next within the\nbounded region of that district, until it goes back to the owner\nof the image.\n\nThis is probably going on around there (Philippines) right now\n(or somebody correct me when exactly since I forgot) and every\nyear, this is part of our devotion to our Lady of Fatima.\n\nIt has been easy to facilitate this back home because it is more\nlikely that your next door neighbor is a Catholic and the image\nthen is just moved next door.\n\nI am thinking of starting something like it in the village where\nmy sister and her family lives.  Most of our friends and neighbors\nthere are Catholics and practicing ones.\n\nI'd like to know if there are any state\/community laws that this \npractice will violate, whatsoever, before I go for it.  Thank you \nfor any comments or help about this matter.\n\n\n\n\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nOK. I know I look pretty desperate on this bboard. I think I have posted\n3 or 4 messages already on the issue of NHL telecats over the last few weeks.\nBut, hey. I am pretty desperate. What I am interested is not just a\nsportsbar with multiple screens so thast I can watch the game on one\nof those silent screens. Are there any hockey oriented bars in this area.\nOr does some Patrick division or Adams division fan have a satellite dish?\nI don't mind paying an admission fee, if necessary.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"What is the proper way to dispose of old blessed palms?\nI`ve have a bunch that I`ve been holding onto.  In addition,\nmy mom has been giving me her's.  I used to give them to my\nuncle who would burn them (and leave the ashes to seep into the\nground).  Should I do the same?  Could I just bury them?  Could\nI add them to my compost bin?\n\nThanks in advance.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\npete zakel is right, we don't need to worry about capitalization\nrules. after all, the punctuation gives all the necessary information\nabout the sentence structure. why should anyone worry about whether the\ntext is as close to the original as possible. (sarcasm intended). \n\n\nThen you didn't understand my grumble...  Again, I said to get a\nCORRECT version of the Constitution.  The first indicator that\nsomething is wrong (i.e. the copy has been modernized) is the modern\ncapitalization rules.  The next thing to go is the spelling, and then\nI've even seen versions where the GRAMMAR was modernized (oh, but\ndon't worry, modernizing the grammar won't change the meaning of the\ntext, right?... ;-)  [p.s.  I have found about 10 *different* versions\nof the Constitution on the network; And accuracy DOES matter...]\n\n--\nCharles Scripter   *   cescript@phy.mtu.edu\nDept of Physics, Michigan Tech, Houghton, MI 49931","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Bye.\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\"Nothing is as inevitable as a mistake whose time has          Garrett Johnson\n come.\" --Tussman                                           Garrett@Ingres.com\n\"The probability of someone watching you is proportional\nto the stupidity of your action.\" - Unknown","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nOne usual suggestion is to put everything into your every-time shell rc-file\ninstead of your login-only one, which is fair enough if you only have a few\nusers who know what they're doing.  If you have several hundred users who do\nwhat the books tell them, though, then it's confusing at best.  Another is to\nhave your xterms run login shells, but that still leaves the window manager\nand the things that get started from its menus with the wrong environment.\n\nOur alternative is that instead of having xdm run the client startup scripts,\nit runs the user's favourite shell as a login shell, and has *it* then run the\nrest of the startup scripts.  That way the user's usual environment gets set\nup as normal and inherited by everything.  You can find an almost-current copy\nof our scripts and things in contrib\/edinburgh-environment.tar.Z, available\nfrom the usual places. ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n   Some countries have laws about importing crypto gear--I believe the U.S.\n   does. Without a license the above scheme won't work (at least not legally)\n   in such countries, including at least France and the U.S.\n\n   David\n\nBZZT!\n\nWrong.  The US does NOT have crypto import laws.\n\n-derek","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nWhat a JOKE! You can't actually believe what you just said. Can you? We \nbombed and invaded these countries.\n\nNotice the definition of war (from the American Heritage Dictionary):\n\t1) A state or period of armed conflict between nations or states.\nThis qualifies the invasions of Cambodia and Laos as wars.\n\nThen let me explain this to you REALLY slowly. Why did he abuse the \npowers of his position? Could it have been to gain personal political \npower? Naw, that would be too obvious.\n\nAnd anyone who can only call names because his position is defensless is\nbreathtakingly ignorant and desperate. I noticed that you edited out the\nother points were I proved you and Phil to be completely wrong.\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\"Death to all modifiers, he declared one day, and out of       Garrett Johnson\n every letter that passed through his hands went every      Garrett@Ingres.com\n adverb and adjective. The next day he made war on articles.\n The following day he blacked out everything in the letters\n but \"a\", \"an\", and \"the\".  - Joseph Heller's Catch-22","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nYou fall if it opens, too.\n\nGravity:  it's not just a good idea; it's the law.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nWhat ever happened to the idea that the Customer is ALWAYS right?\n\n-- Joe","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"[ . . .]\n\nI am a relativist who would like to answer your question, but the way you\nphrase the question makes it unanswerable.  The concepts of \"right\"\nand \"wrong\" (or \"correct\/incorrect\" or \"true\/false\") belong to the\ndomain of epistemological rather than moral questions.  It makes no\nsense to ask if a moral position is right or wrong, although it is\nlegitimate to ask if it is good (or better than another position).\n\nLet me illustrate this point by looking at the psychological derivatives\nof epistemology and ethics:  perception and motivation, respectively.\nOne can certainly ask if a percept is \"right\" (correct, true,\nveridical) or \"wrong\" (incorrect, false, illusory).  But it makes little\nsense to ask if a motive is true or false.  On the other hand, it is\nstrange to ask whether a percept is morally good or evil, but one can\ncertainly ask that question about motives.\n\nTherefore, your suggested answers (a)-(c) simply can't be considered:\nthey assume you can judge the correctness of a moral judgment.\n\nNow the problem with (d) is that it is double-barrelled:  I agree with\nthe first part (that the \"rightness\" of a moral position is a\nmeaningless question), for the reasons stated above.  But that is\nirrelevant to the alleged implication (not an implication at all) that\none cannot feel peace is better than war.  I certainly can make\nvalue judgments (bad, better, best) without asserting the \"correctness\"\nof the position.\n\nSorry for the lengthy dismissal of (a)-(d).  My short (e) answer is\nthat when two individuals grotesquely disagree on a moral issue,\nneither is right (correct) or wrong (incorrect).  They simply hold\ndifferent moral values (feelings).","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n       While also allowing law enforcement agencies to intercept phone\nconversations of criminals *and* non-criminals unlawfully.  (\"No, Rev.\nKing, we aren't spying on you.\")\n\n       I wonder how long it will take for \"the wrong people\" to put their\nhands on the equipment necessary to read this stuff.  It'll probably\nbe as safe as weapons locked safely in evidence rooms.\n\n\n       And people to whom they sell them to.  All it takes is corrupting\nthe right guy.  No, that never happens.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Hi,\n    Can somebody tell me step by step how to add a 40Mb IDE Kalok?\nHD to an existing 120Mb IDE Maxtor HD with Stacker 3.0 and DOS 5?\nI know how to set the jumpers on the 40M to be slave and the settings\nfor heads, wpcom, sectors, etc. I also know that I have to do some\nCMOS settings and fdisk. The problem is: what letter will the CMOS\ngive the new drive? If it's D:, what will happen when Stacker creates\nD: and swap? Can I tell CMOS to make it E:? So that if I Stack it, I\nwill have C, D, E and F?\n    I know this could be an FAQ or in a readme somewhere, but I want\nto hear from somebody who've actually done it. Thanks!\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t     Romy\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"(I have been having trouble posting this article from within tin for over\na week. If you do get multiple copies, my apologies.)\n\nHere is a challenge to Microsoft or Microsort Supporters to defend the\npathetic state of DOS 6 as an upgrade distribution -- it is a long story\nbut would make good reading for those who are interested in knowing the\npotential pitfalls of \"upgrading\" to DOS 6 that I have been able to\nnotice after only about a week of playing around with it.\n\nMy envorinment\n==============\n\nTI TravelMate 4000 WinSX (486SX\/25) 4M Ram 120M Disk\nSystem BIOS version 1.03 05\/21\/92 by Texas Instruments\nCL-GD6420 VGA BIOS v 1.03 a1 by Cirrus Logic & Quadtel\nAdvance Power Manager BATTERY.PRO v b6.00 by Texas Instruments\nSmart Drive Cache (WIN3.1\/DOS6) Parameters: 2048 1024 a- b-\nWindows Benchmark WinBench(tm) v 3.11 02\/11\/93 by ZD Labs\n\nAfter \"updgrading\" to DOS 6, I could not understand why certain things\nbecame so slow, especially after I decided to try 'dblspace'.  In the\nprocess of finding out why, I discovered some interesting things.\n\n\nDisk Performance with Double Space and Smart Drive\n==================================================\n\nWhile most things did not appear to slow down most of the time, certain\napplications appeared to run very much slower.  What was interesting is\nthat commands like 'chkdsk' and 'defrag' were running far too slowly to\nconsider them useful by any standards.  I suspected Double Space (DS)\nand decided to measure its impact on my system using WinBench(tm).\n\nThe Real Disk WINMARK of 20350 for the original system (as shipped from\nfactory with DOS 5 and Windowws 3.1) became 10718 when \"upgraded\" to\nDOS 6 with DS.  Thus there is an effective performance degradation of\nmore than 50 percent which did not really surprise me because I knew\nthat DS compression must cost something.\n\nSpecifically, for short sequential reads up to 512 bytes, DS actually\n*improves* transfer rates by about 10% (because CPU being faster than\nI\/O, more CPU cycles needed for DS is more than compensated by savings\nin I\/O cycles).  However, for all other cases, particularly large\nrandom writes, the transfers take up to three times as long.\n\nWhile the performance depends on the type of access (i.e random or\nsequential, small or large transfer units), on the average (based on\nWinBench's assumptions), the disk slows down to half its speed.\n\nThe tests alone, done in 'real mode' (see WinBench) and with smartdrv\non, do not say much except that it helps to put into those subjective\nstatements like 'there is no noticable difference in performance' or\neven that 'it will speed up disk access when you have a fast CPU and\nslow disk I\/O'.\n\nThis explained why some applications ran markedly slower, but not why\n'chkdsk' and 'defrag' (the latter especially) too so long.\n\n\nDouble Space and Windows\n========================\n\nDBLSPACE will not run at all from within windows, not even if you\nwanted to only to get information, not modify anything, or for that\nmatter even check on its usage -- try \"fasthelp dblspace\" in a dos box\nwithin windows and you will see what I mean from the error message you\nget.  How narrow minded can a programer get, I wonder.\n\nYes, this information can be obtained through the mstools.dd add-on to\nfile manager, but this 'mstools' dll does not understand a compressed\nfloppy!  (Use the DOS 6 supplement utility to create a compressed\nfloppy if you dont know how to.)\n\n\nDOS 6 Defragmenter is incompatible with TI APM\n==============================================\n\nDefragmentation seemed to take too much time.  Even so, I waited\npatiently till it finished and then ran it again to just to confirm.\nThis confirmation 'dblspace \/def' command for the 120M drive should take\nno more than 30 seconds (much faster on other defragmenters I have used)\nbut it took 12 minutes.\n\nI discovered that if I moved the mouse, defragmentation checking ran\nfaster (the % figure ticked more rapidly).  It dawned on me that this\nhad to do with TI's battery saver Advanced Power Management (APM)\nmodule which slows the clock down when it thinks that the CPU is idle,\nand it obviously thought DS defragmentation was an idle process!  After\ndisabling the TI's power saver, this operation took only 20 seconds.\n\n\nMicrosft programmers think TI4000 and Gateway NOMAD users are idiots\n====================================================================\n\nIn the readme.txt file, you can find the the following\n\n\tRunning Microsoft Backup with TI4000 and Gateway NOMAD computers\n\t----------------------------------------------------------------\n\tTo avoid a conflict between the Turbo feature and Microsoft Backup\n\tfor Windows or MS-DOS, add a \/L0 switch to the DEVICE command in\n\tyour CONFIG.SYS that loads the BATTERY.PRO file. Or, before you\n\trun Microsoft Backup, type SETPOWER \/L0 at the command prompt.\n\nIf you checked TI's manual on the \/L0 option, you will realise that it\nmeans \"disable all power saving features of your notebook\".  Why would\nanyone want to run a driver disabled!  As I have found out, not only\ndoes TI's power management interfere with Microsoft Backup as the\nreadme.txt claims, but 'chkdsk' and 'dblspace' (and who knows what\nelse) are crippled by the TI's power saver.\n\nIt is obvious that there is not such thing as APM specifications.  If\nthere indeed is such a thing, then either Microsoft programmers or TI\nprogrammers dont know how to read these specifications.  You dont have\nto guess as to who are the idiots.\n\nBy the way, if you run the advance power management utility, POWER.EXE\n\n\tPower Management Status\n\t-----------------------\n\tSetting =  ADV: MAX\n\tCPU: idle 60% of time.\n\nThis figure of 60% seems to be the steady state value on my notebook\nwhen I am running nothing (windows with only program manager in\niconised form).  Does that mean that Windows takes up 40% of my CPU all\nfor itself, and that I have at best only 60% left for useful work?  Is\nsuch an overhead justified  (whether or not Windows is an operating\nsystem or just another user interface)?  (In DOS alone, it reports 99%\nidle time.)  Looks like Windows is a good example of busy waiting type\nof package that I like my students to study as the classical 'negative'\nexample of our times!\n\n\nMicrosoft programmers do not know batch programming\n===================================================\n\nI like to structure my startup script and thus have the equivalent of\naddpath statements like this:\n\n\tset PATH=C:\\DOS\n\t...\n\tset PATH=C:\\ETC\\BIN;%PATH%;C:\\BIN\n\t...\n\tset PATH=C:\\ETC\\WINDOWS;%PATH%;C:\\WINDOWS\n\t...\n\tset PATH=%PATH%;C:\\BCC\\BIN\n\t...\n\tset PATH=%PATH%;%MOUSE%\n\nEven though the new dos was installed in the same directory as the old\none (i.e. c:\\dos), DOS 6 installation program modifes each and every\npath statement, and prepends C:\\DOS to its value.  As a result, my\nresultant path has so many DOS's.\n\nIf the installation program wanted to remove the old DOS path, and add\nthe new DOS path, clearly it has to only scan for the path statement\ncontaing the old DOS directory and replace it by the new DOS path.\n(Even this should only be done if the new DOS is installed in a\ndirectory different from the old one being 'upgraded'.)\n\nInstead, the Microsoft programmer (if you can call this person one)\ndecided to meddle every path statement I had in the autoexec and\nprepend DOS to the value.  I wonder if Microsoft is so desparate that it\nwould not fire programmers who are incapable of the thought process.\n\nI started a thread on this when DOS 4 came up, and the Microsoft\nrepresentative in Singapore called me about this poster.  In fact he\nspecifically said his US counterparts saw the poster and relayed the\ninformation to him as he did not have access to internet.\n\nNow that has not changed one bit.  In fact, if you have a PATH statement\nwith %PATH% already in it, is it not obvious that the this statement\nshould not be touched for any reason?\n\nAs another example of the inability of Microsoft programmers to\nunderstand batch programming -- I had the mouse driver invoked as:\n\n\tset MOUSE=C:\\ETC\\MOUSE\n\tset PATH=%PATH%;%MOUSE%\n\tloadhigh %MOUSE%\\MOUSE.COM\n\nGuess what MEMMAKER did?  It replaced the last statement with\n\n\tLH ... C:\\ETC\\MOUSE\\MOUSE.COM\n\nWhy is it so difficult just to replace loadhigh with LH and its\nparameters, without touching the rest of the line, I do not understand.\n\n\nDOS 6 Software Quality\n======================\n\nDOS 6 is the only operating system I know, in which, under normal usage,\nyou end up creating a file that you cannot get rid of using of the\ncommands that come with it.\n\nI am deliberately being cryptic about this:  I challenge Microsoft to\nuse all its programmers to catch this bug and publish it.  If they dont\nwithin a week, I will post how you can create this \"ghost\" file.\n\nSurely if I can pick this bug without even looking for it after using a\nparticular command only twice, I am sure two dozen Microsoft (idiot)\nprogrammers randomly banging on their keyboards over a week could find\nit -- that is what I was told how Microsoft \"tests the quality\" of\ntheir products.\n\nI think it is funny that Microsoft has found ways to \"test quality\"\nwhen it is accepted in the industry that quality cannot be tested, but\ncan only be built into the product.  No wonder they cannot provide any\nform of guarantees on their products, not even a decent list of bugs\nthat will prevent scores of user from destroying their disks beyond\nrepair!\n\nAlso, if you run 'dblspace \/def' often enough, repeatedly when the disk\nis fully defragmented, you may get errors, that was created by the\ndefragmenters.  I got my IO.SYS file size error and it got truncated\nwhen I did the chkdsk.  This happend only after five successive\ndefragmentation efforst after the first one supposedly did its job and\nwith no new file creation since.\n\nMicrosft, dont you dare reply to this poster on the network until you\nadmit that your DS has bugs, and are willing to let us know what we\nshould watch out for if we have already used DS.\n\nJaya\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"There seems to be a P\nPDS slot in the above printers. What is it ?\n  ","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":" \nDrivel.  I received delivery of my '93 Trans Am 7 weeks after I \nordered (promised 6-8 weeks), and paid $400 over dealer invoice, \nwhich is a $1425 discount off of MSRP.  I only have about 370 \nmiles on it, but so far no problems, and it seems very well put \ntogether.  By the way, first year production will be about 60,000 \ncars.  Dealers would like you to think there is a shortage, but \nconsidering they only sold about 90,000 F bodies last year and the \nnew model was introduced mid-year, that is not going to create a \nshortage.  GM planning on ramping to about 160,000 F bodies next \nyear (according to a WSJ article).\n \nSeveral people have mentioned seeing a photo of the '94 Mustang in \nPopular Mechanics.  I saw a photo of it in Motor Trend January \n1993 issue (p30).  Direct side on view.  Although they described \nit as a \"seriously handsome car with broad shoulders,\" I thought \nit looked pretty boring in that view.  Roofline reminded me of a \nToyota Celica (yuch!).  Description of mechanicals same as has \nbeen reported from the PM article. \n \n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"How about going to a doctor to get some minor surgery done. Doctor\nrefuses to do it because it's ``to risky'' (still charges me $50!).\nI go home and do it myself. No problem.\n\nThe ``surgery'' involved digging out a pine needle that had buried\nitself under my tongue.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nYou have to do the same sorts of things that Xt does with its main loop.\nThat is, you have to rig up a timer queue, and you have to put a \nselect(2) or poll(2) call in your main loop.  You can obtain the \nfile descriptor of the X display connection using \n    fd = ConnectionNumber (display);","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nI have a clone almost with no name generating 91k xstones on a 486\/33Mhz\nsystem.\n\n\n\nExcuse me, but with a 486\/50 256k cache, S3 928 ISA card, 8Mb XS3 (X11R5) running 386bsd  you can get 100k+ xstones at 1024x768 65Mhz which I doubt \nthat your XP10 series gets. Commerical verions X servers for S3 928 cards\ncan get 136k xstones. So the performance is there and additionally since\nis running unix multiple users can use the system which I have done in\nmy home setup.\n\nMaintenance is minimal if you can read README files for the X servers and\nfor 386bsd.\n\nAmancio Hasty","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"1988 Toyota Supra, Fully loaded automatic.\nMaroon color with leather interior.\nAlpine stereo system with CD changer.\nAlpine car alarm\n90,000 miles, great condition, one owner.\n\nHave to leave country in June.\n\nAsking $9,000 o.b.o.\n\nPlease call (310) 212 - 5376 and ask for Cary.\n\n-- \n---------------------------------------------------------------------------\nBernard Lin\t\t\t\t    Departmental Research Assistant\nComputing and Information Services\t\tColumbia Business School","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Need Diet for Diverticular Disease\nand ideas for gastrointestinal distress\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"This is hell.  Hasn't anyone noticed?\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nram.page, n.: To move about wildly or violently.  A course of frenzied,\nviolent action.\n\nWho assaulted who here, Phill?  Do you remember exactly which side came \nout looking for trouble?\n\n\nSo if it turns out that the fire WAS caused by a tank knocking over a\nColeman lantern, you'll support punishing the \"responsible\" people, Phill?\nOr will you find then find a different reason to hang it all on Koresh?\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\tIf the FBI started the fire, why didn`t people flee the\nburning building?","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I'm wondering if I can tote my American touch tone phone around with me\nto Sweden and Germany.  It's DC powered, and I can buy a special adapter\nfor that in Europe.  The question is if the general electronics work\nthe same.  I can buy a different wall plug and refit it (I'm sure I'd\nhave to), but would that do the trick?","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"  Hello, I hope this is the right group to post this in.\n  I've got a little problem.  I finally managed to get a REAL operating\nsystem (Linux, as opposed to MS-Dos) and I like it alot.  But, when I\ntry to run 'startx', I get a strange response: My monitor goes into\ngraphics mode and I get this big white rectangle on the screen - that's\nall! Nothing else!  Now, I've collected almost every FAQ in the world to\nhelp me but either it's too confusing or I must be missing something.\n  My setup:\n\t386DX (about 20Mhz)\n\tTrident 8900C SVGA (w\/1 Meg)\n\t4 MB RAM\n\tPlenty of HD space\nAny help is appreciated.\nThanx.\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Does antone know the ftp address for the Smithsonian Institution\nwhere one can get digitized photographs, etc ?\nPlease reply by email to \npbenson@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu\n\nThanks","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nI would have appreciated an announcement of the policy change - \nDartmouth will not be able to run xv 3.0, and I'm probably going \nto have to take v2 off line (I somehow missed the \"shareware\"\ndesignation in the README of v2, and didn't realize that we were\nsupposed to register).\n\nI also debate whether this, with the new \"institutions must pay\"\npolicy belongs in the contrib directory on export - to me, \"contrib\"\nmeans \"contributed\" (i.e. no strings, except copyright) attached.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n  Your source is wrong.  The double speed CD300 is still slow compared to a\ntypical hard disk.  The LC can easily handle the SCSI transfer rate of the\nCD300.  None of the current Macs, even the Quadras, support SCSI-2 unless\nyou get a SCSI-2 Nubus Card.\n\n  You don't have to have double speed to use PhotoCD.  It's just faster\nreading images off of a disk.  I think that the CD150 can handle PhotoCD,\nbut only single session.  The CD300 can do multisession PhotoCD.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"We were told that the resolution on the 5FGe could only go to 1024x768.\n\nAnd that the 5 FG could go to 1152x870.\n\nHas anybody tried running these higher resolutions??\n\nSomewhere I thought I read that the 1152x870 on a 17\" monitor may make the\ntype too small to read.\n\nAny help would be appreciated.\nSteve\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"The Christian Reformed Church does not allow people to belong to lodges,\nthe Reformed Church in America does.  The conservatives in both churches\nare very similar, as are the \"progressives\".  The RCA currently ordains\nwomen; the CRC is fighting over the issue.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Sorry Mike! What defensemen would the Wings be willing to give up for Beezer?","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nWhile I agree that Lemieux deserves the Hart, it is far from a \"no-brainer\". \nThe Hart trophy goes to the player most valuable to his team, not to the best\nplayer in the league. So your above arguement is really worthless. \n\nThe Pens without Mario are still a damn good hockey team. The Leafs without \nGilmour would have been fighting Tampa Bay for the 3rd pick. \n\nLike I said, Mario deserves it, IMHO. But it is a very close race and a \nGilmour victory would not surprise me. I dislike Doug Gilmour with a passion, \nbut I must concede that he is extremely valuable to the Leafs.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Umpires are not required to call time out just because a player\nasks for time. Only in extreme cases, like dust in the pitcher's\nor hitter's eyes, should an umpire call time.\n\nThe batter has 20 seconds to get situated in the box and receive\na pitch. I'm against putting a giant clock (or any size clock\nfor that matter) up to count down 20 seconds between pitches and\nthe minute for warm-ups. But I think umpires should tell hitters\nto go to hell if they step out to get the sign or whatever, and\ninstruct the pitcher to pitch. The same goes for pitchers. Umps\nshould tell them to pitch or feint within 20 seconds or a ball\nwill be called. That's the way it should be.\n\n\nRyan Robbins\nPenobscot Hall\nUniversity of Maine","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I get the feeling that we are debating at cross-purposes--that we\ndo not see the same fundamental assumptions, and this perhaps makes\nmy answers orthogonal to your questions.  I will try again.\n\nPerhaps you believe that nothing exists aside from objectively\nobservable and provable things.  In that case, I cannot show you\nthat there is such thing as a spirit or a spiritual need--these \nthings do not exist in the realm of the objective, but in the\nrealm of the subjective.\n\n(By a.a., I assume you mean Alcoholics Anonymous, and not alt.atheism ;)\nI would not say that AA \"handles\" spiritual needs.  Rather I would say\nthat AA (and other 12-step programs) help people come to terms with their\nneeds--ie that AA is facilitating the recovery, and that as part of the\nrecovery, they recognize their spiritual needs, and begin to rely on a \"higher\npower\" (12-step's term) to fill them instead of whatever substance abuse\nthey had been accustomed to.  (Sorry, there is no objective proof here\neither--no way to take 2 identical alcoholics and try to have one recover\nby fulfilling spiritual needs, and one without and externally compare the\ndifference--we are talking about the virtually infinite complexity of\n*people* here.)\n\nSpiritual needs could be defined as things that people need in addition to\nphysical requirements like air, food, sleep, etc.  These are things like\nthe need for love and acceptance, and the need for meaning in life.  If \none denies the existence of spiritual things, one would presumably call \nthese \"emotional needs\". The reason Christians call them spiritual needs \nis that they have aspects that are not fulfillable except by spiritual \nmeans--ie a person could be loved and accepted by many people, and do \nmany meaningful things, but still have a need for love, which can only be\nsatisfied by the love of God.  Now the problem is that there are people who\naccept the existence of these needs, and people who reject them.  Since I\nbelieve in absolute truth, some of these people are right, and the others\nare wrong.  So here are the 2 possibilities:\n\n1) If Christians are right, then we all have spiritual needs--ie\nwe all need God.  Those who do not realize that they need God are \ndeluded--they just haven't recognized it yet.\n\n2) If Christians are wrong, spiritual needs are an artefact of our brain\nchemicals.  Well-adjusted and properly-integrated personalities do not\nhave such things.  Christians are simply using the concept of God and \nspiritual needs to mask their own inadequacies.\n\nI hate to belabour the point, but the existence of spirits and spiritual\nneeds cannot be objectively demonstrated or proven, just like the existence\nof God cannot.  And yes, this means that there is a risk that all my subjective\nevidence is manufactured by my brain chemicals.  But on the other hand, I \ncould venture into solipsism and say that there is a risk that everything that\nI appear to objectively know is really manufactured by my brain chemicals.\n\nI suspect this is an unsatisfactory answer to a request for evidence and\ndemonstration of the existence of spirits and spiritual needs, but my assertion\nis that such things are not objectively demonstrable.  As I have said before, \nI myself am on the Christian side of agnosticism, having been pushed off the \nfence by subjective evidence.  (And no, I was not raised a Christian, so it \nis not a case of simply accepting what I was indoctrinated with.)","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n...\n\nUpdate:\n\n\tNo, I or my friends with me now have not delt with him, but we\ndid try to call him, and there's no answer at his phone.\n\n\tThe call was made at midnight EST; God knows what time that is\nin Arizona.\n\n\tWe'll try again later.\n\n\tAnybody want to saturate his mail box?\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n\nOnly because you are apparently easy to fool.  In other words, your\nremark is obviously from someone who wouldn't know the difference.\n\n-- \n\"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live\n in the real world.\"   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"--\n\n\nMy wife is a physiotherapist and she is looking for some cliparts of\nskeleton and male\/female body.  We're currently using Windows Draw \nwhich can import all kind of graphic formats.  Therefore, anything\nwill do.\n\nPlease advise of the existance of any freeware or commerical source\nthat we can turn to.  Since I don't normally read this newsgroup,\nplease responds via e-mail.\n\n\nThanks in advance.\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"completed\n\nWhy would you dispose a channel if you are going to play more\nsounds soon? If you are trying to write a game, you shouldn't\nbe using SndPlay. Instead, make a channel and use BufferCmds\nto play sounds on it. It works great. You can add CallBacks to\nthe channel also to let you know when the channel is getting\nempty. Before it gets empty.\n\n7.1,\n\nCallbacks are very reliable, I found them 100% reliable, even\nunder System 4.1. I was doing continuous background sound with\ninterrupting sound effects on System 6.0 with the IM-V\ndocumentation.\n\nYou probably were cancelling your callback commands out of\nyour channels, of course you didn't get called. In general, if\nyou have problems with sounds working when you play one per\nchannel and then close the channel (with the related\nslowdown), but then when you play more than one you don't\nwork, then you are adding more than one synthesizer to a\nchannel, possibly the same one multiple times. This might be\nbecause you are calling SndPlay on a preexisting channel with\na sound resource which adds the sampled sound synthesizer to\nthe channel first thing before it plays. Most sampled sounds\nhave this command at the start of them. You need to resedit\nthe sound and remove that command, then when you create your\nchannel, specify the sampled sound synthesizer to be the\nchannel's synth. Then you can use asynch sndplay's all you\nwant. You'll probably want to switch to BufferCmd's, since you\nare going to have to use SndDoCommand anyway to add callbacks.\n\nNow before you go ahead and tell me I am full of it, and the\nsound manager doesn't work for games, remember, Spectre uses\nit. And it works great. If Spectre can spare the CPU time, you\ncan too.\n\nOne little disclaimer: There are some out there who say the\nSound Manager in the IIsi can't be made to work right. I'm not\nsure either way, but I know for sure that you can make your\nsounds work 100% correctly on every other machine using the\nSound Manager.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"It was a classy move.  But it looks like ESPN is going to devote most of\nthe coverage to the Pens.  On Tuesday night, they continued to broadcast\nthe Pen-Devil game even though Pittsburgh had the game well in control.\nGranted they did show some \"bonus\" coverage of the Caps and Isles but\nthey cut away from the close game, which went into double ot, to update\nus on the fifth goal of the rout.\nThursday was a good game even if it was the second straight game between\nthe pens and devils.  IMHO they should program some variety into the\ntelecasts.(Yes I know the game shown on saturday is between the B's and\nSabres, probably throwing a bone to us Bruin fans.)\nAnd what about the Cambell conference?  I'd like to see a game in the\nNorris or Smythe.  Why not have back to back nights of National\nHockey Night?\n\nJust a thought.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Anyone have experiences, good or bad, with replacing the MFM controller\nand drive with an IDE controller and drive in a Zenith 386\/16? I had\nheard some rumors about bus mastering problems on some CPU board \nrevisions.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":" \n  I'd have to agree with you there Joe.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nOil Pressure, Oil Temperature\nCoolant Temperature\nManifold Vacuum\nAmmeter, Voltmeter\n\nFuel Pressure [maybe] (Problematic, since you either need an electronic\nsensor\/gauge pair or you have to mount the damn thing outside the car)\n\nIn addition, it'd be nice to have a big red idiot light 'Check Guages'\nconnected to Oil pressure, Oil Temp, Coolant Temp, Ammeter &\nVoltmeter.  With heaps of guages, it's hard to look at them all all\nthe time.  In the case of oil pressure, for example, you want to know\nright away if your oil pump goes bad, unlike coolant temperature, a\nminute or two of 0 oil pressure would be A Very Bad Thing(tm).\n\nAdam","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Hello out there!\n\nMy Mac IIsi runs a Radius Pivot LE monitor, with the PDS card.\n\nAs I wanted to try to switch to 32 bit adressing, i couldn't startup my Mac\nanymore.\n\n1.\tWhat is the trick to zap the PRAM (so I won't have to take out the\nbattery next time)\n\n2.\tIs there any trick that could allow me to switch to 32bit?\n\n3.\tWhat does 32bit adressing bring to me as an user? faster work?\n\n4.\tAny chance to have more than 8Mb of adressable memory with 24bit\nadressing?\n\nThank you a lot for your answers (via mail or reply)","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I have a '72 CL350 which I stopped riding about 2 years ago (I upgraded\nto an '84 Sabre 750).  I parked it in the corner of my parking lot, and planned\non draining the gas, spraying oil in the tank, etc. to get it ready to store.\nWell, after a lot of procrastination, all I ended up doing was throwing a \ntarp on it.\n\nWell, now I have to move and want to clean up the 350.  I tried starting it\n(with someone else's battery) and had no luck.  My first guess is that it is\nthe gas and so I plan on draining it and replacing it with new gas (I can only\npray that I didn't trash the carbeurators).  The question is, what do I do\nwith this old gas?  I am not going to run it in my Sabre, and I think that\nthere is enough that I don't want to burn it (campus police don't think\ntoo kindly about bonfires).  Dumping it isn't a great idea.        \n\nThanks for any ideas,\nGeorge Heinz\n\n----\nWin the $1,000,000 question -- what does this C code do? (No fair compiling it)","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
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{"text":"\nYup, I bought the darn thing cause it was sturdy. I carry it around in\nan unpadded (unless you consider all the papers and files and folders)\nbookbag (shoulder strap little job from Eddie Bauer). I've travelled\ncross country several times with Walkman, DiscMan and tapes, books and\ncomputer all piled in their. My PB100 works happily, and I'm typing on\nit right now... It has a Global Village Teleport 9600 V.32 internal\nsend\/receive fax-modem, and I just love it.\n\nUnfortunately, I have seen a new Duo 230 that a friend bought as a\nprimary computer (I have a Mac IIsi and SE30 as primary home\ncomputers, and Quadra and IIci at work in the lab). And while amazed\nat the lightness of it, I was kinda shocked at the flimsiness of the\nscreen. I'm sure it'd break real easy....\nGeez, we are a Sony familly. Our neighbor works for Zeinth and hates\nit (always asks why we didn't buy Zeinth products). Nice guy\nnevertheless. We still have two working Sony Color Trinitrons from\n1972 and 1974. Older one is on it's second picture tube, but both\nwork. Now they're relegated to the old 8-bit atari computer and atari\n2600 game machinces, as well as our not-that-old younger sister's\nNintendo game machine. Sony doesn't make TV's like they used to\nthough, the newer Mexican assembly-line TV's are not that reliable or\nsharp anymore... Dad also just got a 35\" direct-view Sony (god, the\nthing weighs a ton!). :)  Still, where would we be without Trinitrons,\nCD players, or the veritable Walkman????","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"If you wanted to send your own letter to the NHL where would you send it?\nBrett E. Ball\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"[Joe, why don't you put your username on your account?]\n\n\n\nOr claims to have discovered so...  It would hardly be the first time\nthey raided someone based on incorrect evidence.\n\n\nIt was a \"no-knock\", according to the Associated Press report.\nHere's something I found in my collection:\n\n    Excerpts from an article in the Knoxville News-Sentinel Final\n    Edition Monday, March 1, 1993 (the byline is associated press):\n\n    WACO, Texas - Fierce gun battles erupted Sunday as more than 100\n    law officers tried to arrest the leader of a heavily armed\n    religious cult.  At least four federal agents and two cult members\n    were reported killed.  [...]\n\n    The gun battles began when federal agents hidden in livestock\n    trailers stormed the sect's head-quarters Sunday morning,\n             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n    witnesses said.  The agents had warrants to search for guns and\n    explosives and to arrest Howell, said Les Stanford of the ATF in\n    Washington.  [...]\n\n    Witnesses said the law officers stormed the compound's main home,\n    throwing concussion grenades and screaming \"Come out,\" while three\n    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n    National Guard helicopters approached.  For a moment, there was no\n    response.  Then the shooting began. \n\nI think \"storming the sect's head-quaters\" and \"throwing concussion\ngrenades\" qualifies as a no-knock (or perhaps an illegal assault).\n\n                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\nProbably not.  But then again, neither are you.\n\n                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\nAnd just what is \"his background\"?  What prior crimes had he been\nCONVICTED of?\n\n  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\nSorry, BATF are \"Federal TAX Enforcement officials\".  They're not\npolice, nor do they have police powers.\n\n--\nCharles Scripter   *   cescript@phy.mtu.edu\nDept of Physics, Michigan Tech, Houghton, MI 49931","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nActually, I was hoping for Barry Bonds.  Oh well.\n\n\nFirst off, Jeff has had like 5 hits in the last two games, and walked\n*yet again*.  Sorry Ken, but Jeff King does have some power, which\nmeans his SLG won't be below .300, and his walks are *way* up.  If\nthat increase is real, Jeff King will be an above average NL third\nbaseman in 1993.  Jose Lind, on the other hand, *still* doesn't walk,\nand clearly isn't a .320 hitter.  My bet is that he won't be getting\nany extra bases either once everybody starts pulling the \"Lind Shift\"\nwe were seeing in the NL.\n\n\nNo, although since the Lavalliere weirdness, nothing would really\nsurprise me.  Jeff King is currently in the top 10 in the league in\n*walks*.  Something is up...","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nThere is no reason to believe that Paul's thorn in the flesh was \na sin in his life.  That makes little sense in the light of Paul'\nwritings taken in totality.  He writes of how he presses for the\nmark, and keeps his body submitted.  No doubt Paul had to struggle\nwith the flesh just like every Christian.  Paul does associate his \nthorn with a Satanic messenger, and with physical infirmities and tribulation,\nbut not with a sin in his life.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n I have a copy of 'The Earth-From Space' on my wall that I purchased\nfrom Space Shots, Inc. (LA, CA  (800) 272-2779).  As printed on the\nposter, the image was created by Tom Van Sant and the GeoSphere Project.\nThe image IS copyrighted, so I doubt that you'll find it legally in\nthe public domain.  Part of the proceeds from the sale of the image go to the \nGeoSphere Project (an environmental education thing), and the cost is\nnominal, so crack a 20 and buy one!  Also, I don't think it's always\nsafe to assume that just because the government 'funded' a project, any\nproducts will be provided for free.  Many government agencies (NASA, NOAA)\nand some private groups (National Geographic) provided assistance to the\nGeoSphere Project.  This collaboration seems to be mostly oriented to\neducating the public, rather than pure research.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"NOTE: Saturday, April 20th's scores should be sent out by this coming Friday.\n\n\t     MLB Standings and Scores for Tuesday, April 20th, 1993\n\t                   (including yesterday's games)\n\nNATIONAL WEST\t      Won  Lost   Pct.    GB   Last 10  Streak    Home   Road\nSan Francisco Giants   08   05    .615    --     7-3     Won 1   05-02  03-03\nHouston Astros         07   05    .583   0.5     7-3     Won 1   02-04  05-01\nAtlanta Braves         07   07    .500   1.5     4-6    Lost 1   04-03  03-04\nLos Angeles Dodgers    06   07    .462   2.0     4-6     Won 3   03-03  03-04\nSan Diego Padres       05   07    .417   2.5     5-5     Won 3   03-04  02-03\nColorado Rockies       04   07    .364   3.0     4-6    Lost 1   03-03  01-04\nCincinnati Reds        03   09    .250   4.5     2-8     Won 1   02-04  01-05\n\nNATIONAL EAST\nPhiladelphia Phillies  09   03    .750    --     7-3     Won 1   05-01  04-02\nPittsburgh Pirates     07   05    .583   2.0     5-5    Lost 3   03-02  04-03\nSt. Louis Cardinals    07   05    .583   2.0     6-4    Lost 3   04-02  03-03\nNew York Mets          06   05    .545   2.5     5-5    Lost 1   02-03  04-02\nChicago Cubs           06   06    .500   3.0     5-5    Lost 1   03-03  03-03\nMontreal Expos         06   06    .500   3.0     5-5     Won 1   03-03  03-03\nFlorida Marlins        04   08    .333   5.0     3-7    Lost 1   02-04  02-04\n\n\nAMERICAN WEST         Won  Lost   Pct.    GB   Last 10  Streak    Home   Road\nTexas Rangers          08   03    .727    --     7-3     Won 2   04-02  04-01\nCalifornia Angels      06   04    .600   1.5     6-4    Lost 1   03-02  03-02\nMinnesota Twins        06   05    .545   2.0     6-4    Lost 1   03-03  03-02\nChicago White Sox      05   07    .417   3.5     4-6    Lost 3   02-03  03-04\nSeattle Mariners       05   07    .417   3.5     4-6     Won 1   03-02  02-05\nOakland Athletics      04   06    .400   3.5     4-6    Lost 4   04-02  00-04\nKansas City Royals     03   09    .250   5.5     3-7     Won 1   01-05  02-04\n\nAMERICAN EAST\nBoston Red Sox         10   03    .769    --     7-3     Won 3   06-01  04-02\nDetroit Tigers         07   05    .583   2.5     7-3    Lost 1   05-01  02-04\nToronto Blue Jays      07   05    .583   2.5     6-4     Won 1   04-02  03-03\nNew York Yankees       06   06    .500   3.5     5-5    Lost 2   03-03  03-03\nMilwaukee Brewers      04   05    .444   4.0     4-5     Won 2   02-02  02-03\nCleveland Indians      05   08    .385   5.0     3-7    Lost 1   04-03  01-05\nBaltimore Orioles      04   07    .364   5.0     4-6     Won 1   02-03  02-04\n\n\n\t\t\t     YESTERDAY'S SCORES\n                  (IDLE teams listed in alphabetical order)\n\nNATIONAL LEAGUE\t\t\t\tAMERICAN LEAGUE\n\nHouston Astros\t      PPD\t\tChicago White Sox\t0\nChicago Cubs\t     RAIN\t\tBoston Red Sox\t\t6\n\nAtlanta Braves       IDLE\t\tToronto Blue Jays\t7\nCincinnati Reds      IDLE\t\tCleveland Indians\t1\n\nColorado Rockies     IDLE\t\tSeattle Mariners       10\nFlorida Marlins      IDLE\t\tDetroit Tigers\t\t6\n\nLos Angeles Dodgers  IDLE\t\tBaltimore Orioles    IDLE\nMontreal Expos       IDLE\t\tCalifornia Angels    IDLE\n\nNew York Mets        IDLE\t\tKansas City Royals   IDLE\nPhiladelphia PhilliesIDLE\t\tMilwaukee Brewers    IDLE\n\nPittsburgh Pirates   IDLE\t\tMinnesota Twins      IDLE\nSt. Louis Cardinals  IDLE\t\tNew York Yankees     IDLE\n\nSan Francisco Giants IDLE\t\tOakland Athletics    IDLE\nSan Diego Padres     IDLE\t\tTexas Rangers        IDLE\n-- \n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nJoseph Hernandez          |    RAMS  | |    \/.\\  ******* _|_|_  \/ |   LAKERS\njtchern@ocf.Berkeley.EDU  |   KINGS  | |__ |   | DODGERS _|_|_  | |   RAIDERS\njtcent@soda.Berkeley.EDU  |  ANGELS  |____||_|_| *******  | |  |___|  CLIPPERS","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":": At the company I worked for previously, I received a file that was\n: des encryped\n: and the person that had sent it, went on vaction.  Rather than wait\n: two weeks\n: I set up a straight frontal attack with one key at a time.  It only\n: took two(2)\n: days to crack the file.  No, I don't have any faith in DES.\n\nThen it was either _really_ good luck or you had some _very_ fast\nmachine.  DES has 2^56 possible keys, each two of which are simply\nto convert into each other, so you have to expect 2^54 trial encryptions\nin the mean case, assuming known plaintext.\n2^54 \/ 2 \/ (24*60*60) \/ 1000000 is ca. 104250.\nSo you must have managed to do 104250 encryptions per microsecond.\nCE Infosys builds a very fast DES chip that manages 2 (!) encryptions\nper microsecond.\n\nYes, I'm not very seriously bothered about the security of DES yet;\nthough you might prefer to use triple DES or IDEA, both of which\nuse more key bits.\n\njoerg\n\n--\nJoerg Czeranski                EMail czeranski@rz.tu-clausthal.de\nOsteroeder Strasse 55          SMTP  injc@[139.174.2.10]\nW-3392 Clausthal-Zellerfeld    Voice (at work)  +49-5323-72-3896\nGermany                        Voice (at home)  +49-5323-78858","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I wrote that I thought that 2 Peter 1:20 meant, \"no prophecy of\nScripture (or, as one reader suggests, no written prophecy) is\nmerely the private opinion of the writer.\"\n\nTony Zamora replies (Sat 8 May 1993) that this in turn implies that\nit is not subject to the private interpretation of the reader\neither. I am not sure that I understand this.\n     In one sense, no statement by another is subject to my private\ninterpretation. If reliable historians tell me that the Athenians\nlost the Pelopennesian War, I cannot simply interpret this away\nbecause I wanted the Athenians to win. Facts are facts and do not go\naway because I want them to be otherwise.\n     In another sense, every statement is subject to private\ninterpretation, in that I have to depend on my brains and\nexpereience to decide what it means, and whether it is sufficiently\nwell attested to merit my assent. Even if the statement occurs in an\ninspired writing, I still have to decide, using my own best\njudgement, whether it is in fact inspired. This is not arrogance --\nit is just an inescapable fact.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Just create the window in the place you want it and set the program\nposition field in the WM_NORMAL_HINTS property, then map it.\n\nThen, assuming they have a non brain dead window manager, the user can\nsay whether they want to us program specified positions or not. For\ntvtwm the UsePPosition command in the .tvtwmrc will do this.\n\nNow, I'm sure that by the time this message gets out of our local news\ntimewarp someone will have advised you to set the user position bit in\nthe WM_NORMAL_HINTS. _Do_not_ do this. It's evil. It's a disservice to\nyour users. Offler the tusked crocodile god will come in the night and\nremove your vital organs with a blunt spoon if you even contemplate\nit.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nWell, watching several Denizen's dismantle Laurie's Virago in an\nattempt to change the oil at the ride 'n feed a few years back was a\npretty funny site.  Surely with the combined wisdom of all these folks\nthey weren't doing things the hard way, were they?","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nMe too. Even after I bought the 3-piece Krauser K2 set.  Now and then, \nDK puts them on sale for 50 bux or so to clear out inventory, but they\nnever seem to to go away.  They are the Volkswagens of tank bags, I guess.\n\nBTW, the late Paul O' Neill showed me a trick with a pair of pliers that\nwill extend their life considerably.  When the zipper starts to separate\nbehind the pull (because of age and wear), squash the pull body with the\npliers just a bit to tighten it back up.  I would have tossed my bag three \nyears ago, but this fixed it up and kept it secure and reliable.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"GK>Occasionally, I have trouble shifting into reverse.  The shifter\nGK>refuses to enter the gate, and I often grind the synchros trying to\nGK>get it into gear.  I'll be watching this carefully in the next couple\nGK>of months.\n\nEnter 1st, wait 2-3 seconds and then go into reverse.  They use the same\nsynchros, and you'll never (at least I haven't) ground-em-to-fit when using\nthis technique.\n                                                                                 ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":": In article <1993May12.193454.29823@hal.com>, bobp@hal.com (Bob Pendleton) writes...\n: >From article <1993May7.235404.22590@pony.Ingres.COM>, by mwmeyer@Ingres.COM (Mike (wading through the muck and) Meyer):\n: >>    This is getting pretty silly. First off, \"Hacker\" is an obsolete term.\n: >>    Doesn't matter what it used to mean, today it means \"thief.\"\n: >> \n: >> It only means \"thief\" if you want it to mean that.  To me, it means\n\n:   [Lots of context wickedly omitted by myself :-) ]\n: > \n: >Anyway, if I say \"Joe is a hacker\" to most english speaking people who\n: >know the word they'll probably think he is either a poor golfer or a\n: >bad carpenter. But there are very very few people who will think he is\n: >a good and clever programmer. :-)\n: > \n: >If you chose to call yourself by a term that means \"thief\" don't be\n: >surprised when people think you are a thief. Even if you don't agree\n: >with that definition of the word.\n:       ^^^  ^^^^^^^^^^ \n:  [....] The narrower view that a hacker, when\n:  associated with the computing environment, is a dishonest\n:  expert is not so widespread, I'm my opinion, at least with the\n:  people involved with the field. IMHO the wider meaning is not\n:  obsolete at all, no matter how much the lay press would like it to\n:  be!  [....]\n\n:  Therefore I conclude that if you call yourself a hacker, and somebody\n:  perceives you as a thief, then this person belongs to a very very\n:  small group that has some computer knowledge, but not enough to know\n:  the wider (and original) meaning of the word.  [....]\n\nUnfortunately, the general public has a very narrow view of the deep, dark\nrecesses of the art of computing.  What little they do see is from the view\ngiven to them by the media.  From what I have seen from the media, 'hacker'\nis not a proper way by which to refer to a respected person.\n\nI, on the other hand, know what 'hacker' means from those who consider\nthemselves such.  Following is the definition from \"Jargon File 2.9.10\".\n(This is also known as the \"Hackers Dictionary\".)  The definitions are\narranged in order of decreasing frequency of usage:\n\n   :hacker: [originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe] n.\n     1. A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable\n     systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most\n     users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary.  2. One who\n     programs enthusiastically (even obsessively) or who enjoys\n     programming rather than just theorizing about programming.  3. A\n     person capable of appreciating {hack value}.  4. A person who is\n     good at programming quickly.  5. An expert at a particular program,\n     or one who frequently does work using it or on it; as in 'a UNIX\n     hacker'.  (Definitions 1 through 5 are correlated, and people who\n     fit them congregate.)  6. An expert or enthusiast of any kind.  One\n     might be an astronomy hacker, for example.  7. One who enjoys the\n     intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing\n     limitations.  8. [deprecated] A malicious meddler who tries to\n     discover sensitive information by poking around.  Hence 'password\n     hacker', 'network hacker'.  See {cracker}.\n\n     The term 'hacker' also tends to connote membership in the global\n     community defined by the net (see {network, the} and\n     {Internet address}).  It also implies that the person described\n     is seen to subscribe to some version of the hacker ehic (see\n     {hacker ethic, the}).\n\n     It is better to be described as a hacker by others than to describe\n     oneself that way.  Hackers consider themselves something of an\n     elite (a meritocracy based on ability), though one to which new\n     members are gladly welcome.  There is thus a certain ego\n     satisfaction to be had in identifying yourself as a hacker (but if\n     you claim to be one and are not, you'll quickly be labeled\n     {bogus}).  See also {wannabee}.\n\n   :hacker ethic, the: n.  1. The belief that information-sharing\n     is a powerful positive good, and that it is an ethical duty of\n     hackers to share their expertise by writing free software and\n     facilitating access to information and to computing resources\n     wherever possible.  2. The belief that system-cracking for fun\n     and exploration is ethically OK as long as the cracker commits\n     no theft, vandalism, or breach of confidentiality.\n\n     Both of these normative ethical principles are widely, but by no\n     means universally) accepted among hackers. Most hackers subscribe\n     to the hacker ethic in sense 1, and many act on it by writing and\n     giving away free software.  A few go further and assert that\n     *all* information should be free and *any* proprietary\n     control of it is bad; this is the philosophy behind the {GNU}\n     project.\n\n     Sense 2 is more controversial: some people consider the act of\n     cracking itself to be unethical, like breaking and entering.\n     But this principle at least moderates the behavior of people who\n     see themselves as `benign' crackers (see also {samurai}).  On\n     this view, it is one of the highest forms of hackerly courtesy\n     to (a) break into a system, and then (b) explain to the sysop,\n     preferably by email from a {superuser} account, exactly how it\n     was done and how the hole can be plugged --- acting as an\n     unpaid (an unsolicited) {tiger team}.\n\n     The most reliable manifestation of either version of the hacker\n     ethic is that almost all hackers are actively willing to share\n     technical tricks, software, and (where possible) computing\n     resources with other hackers.  Huge cooperative networks such as\n     {USENET}, {Fidonet} and Internet (see {Internet address})\n     can function without central control because of this trait; they\n     both rely on and reinforce a sense of community that may be\n     hackerdom's most valuable intangible asset.\n\n:  Finally, a true hacker does not name himself\/herself one, for this is\n:  a title that is bestowed by the befuddled sysadmins and users at large.\n: To me, a sign of a truly great hacker is to be introduced to someone who\n: says \"Nahh, I just know a thing or two, people always exagerate...\" :-)\n\nNote that the above definition does not preclude a hacker from describing\nlimself (meaning: himself\/herself) one, but simply says that it is better\nnot to do so.  There are many who do not know the meaning of 'hacker'.  So,\nin order to defend the true meaning of the word, it is sometimes necessary\nto borrow on the reputation of a known (respected) hacker around the\nworkplace.  (This means that 'hacker' is defined in terms of some well-known\nand respected person.)  Sometimes, there may only be one such person.\n\n: >No matter what Mr. Dumpty says, language doesn't work that way.\n:  Actually it does, you just have to get adequate press coverage... :-)\n\nLanguage works anyway that we want it to work.  The purpose of language is\nto communicate.  To oversimplify: As long as communication is taking place,\nthen language is working.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nYes, each is a form of the other.\n\nCharley an anarchist?  No, just true words being spoken in jest.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto) writes...\n\n\n\n\n\tIt's fairly simple. It was decided to burn the place down,\n\tand more than one agent was dispatched to set the fires in\n\tseparate parts of the compound. I doubt that \"simultaneously\"\n\tmeans \"at the exact same time\" in this case. It likely means\n\t\"close enough together to preclude them from being part of\n\tthe same fire.\"\n\n\n\n\tThey might be waiting until the evidence comes in from the\n\tsite, and the investigation is at least well underway. \n\n\n\n\tThe same could be said of Jonestown.\n\n\n\tMaybe. Then again, I've been suprised at what folks have missed\n\tin the past in similar situations. Don't jump t oconclusions.\n\n                  _____  _____\n                  \\\\\\\\\\\\\/ ___\/___________________\n  Mitchell S Todd  \\\\\\\\\/ \/                 _____\/__________________________\n________________    \\\\\/ \/ mst4298@zeus._____\/.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'_'_'_\/\n\\_____        \\__    \/ \/ tamu.edu  _____\/.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'_'_\/\n    \\__________\\__  \/ \/        _____\/_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_\/\n                \\_ \/ \/__________\/\n                 \\\/____\/\\\\\\\\\\\\\n \t\t\t \\\\\\\\\\\\","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n#Recently, I've asked myself a rather interesting question: What RIGHT does\n#god have on our lives (always assuming there is a god, of course...!) ??\n#\n#In his infinite wisdom, he made it perfectly clear that if we don't live\n#according to his rules, we will burn in hell. Well, with what RIGHT can god\n#make that desicion? Let's say, for the sake of argument, that god creates\n#every one of us (directly or indirectly, it doesn't matter.). What then\n#happens, is that he first creates us, and then turns us lose. Well, I didn't\n#ask to be created.\n#\n#Let's make an analogue. If a scientist creates a unique living creature\n#(which has happened, it was even patented...!!!), does he then have the\n#right to expect it to behave in a certain matter, or die...?\n\nDear Joakim, let me begin by saying that these are excellent questions,\nbut that by asking, you will find as many different explanations as there\nare respondents.  As a Latter-day Saint, I believe that all of us (you,\nme, etc.) lived once as spirit-children of God the Father (Hebrews 12:9)\nin the pre-mortal existance. In order to continue our eternal progression,\nan earthly probationary time was required.  (To live by faith, not by\nsight, to choose good over evil, and to prepare ourselves in all things\nto become worthy of a higher order of existance.)  We believe that all of\nGod's spirit-offspring were once assembled to discuss the specifics of\nthis earthly sojourn.  One-third chose for Lucifer's plan, most followed\nthe Firstborn (the pre-mortal Jesus Christ).  Lucifer's aspirations (\"I\nwill exalt my throne above the stars of God . . .\" Isaiah 14:12-17, etc.)\nresulted into the rebellion of his followers against the Firstborn and\nthose who followed Him, resulting in the casting out of Lucifer (who\nbecame Satan, the father of lies) and one-third of the hosts of heaven\n(\"And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast\nthem to the earth . . .\" Revelation 12:4) as demons (evil spirits).\n\nTo get back on OUR choice to be born on this earth, and to be subject to\nGod and His plan (for good or bad, based upon our obedience and choices),\nwe made that choice individually.  (God speaking to Job: \"Where wast thou\nwhen I laid the foundations of the earth, . . . when the morning stars\nsang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?\" Job 38:4-7).  We\nlost the knowledge of our pre-mortal existance (the \"Veil of Forgetful-\nness,\" somewhere in Psalms), in order to live by faith, not by sight.\n\nYou may not accept this scenario, neither do quite a few who rely on the\nBible alone, which offers only fragmentary insights into this particular\naspect of our existence as individuals, as sons and daughters of God.\n\n#Who is god to impose its rules on us ? Who can tell if god is REALLY so\n#righteous as god likes us to believe? Are all christians a flock of sheep,\n#unable to do otherwise that follow the rest?\n#\n#Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.\n\n(All Christians, by definition, ARE a flock of sheep, following the Shepherd\nas they understand Him  ;-)  --But in any event, not all Christians believe\nin the same theology, such as the one Latter-day Saints believe in.  (They\nwill cry \"heresy\" and other accusations of \"perverting\" the doctrines of\nthe Bible, while they themselves believe in a myriad of interpretations, as\nfound in their catechisms and various do-it-yourself Bible-study manuals...)\n\nAs for me, I have a personal conviction that the pre-existance scenario as\nexplained above, is most in harmony with Biblical doctrine, some Dead Sea\nScroll books, the pseudographion, other (Jewish) sources, and last but not\nleast, modern-day revelation on the subject.\n\n#I just want to point out that this is not sarcasm, I mean it.\n#\n#                        How should one deal with a man who is convinced that\n#                        he is acting according to God's will, and who there-\n#     Jokke              fore believes that he is doing you a favour by\n#                        stabbing you in the back?\n#\n#                                                        -Voltaire\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":": \n: >|> Has anyone got multiverse to work ?\n: >|>          Extn 5543, sts@mfltd.co.uk, !uunet!mfocus!sts\n: \n: I've tried compiling it on several SPARCstations with gcc 2.22.  After\n: fixing up a few bugs (3 missing constant definitions plus a couple of\n: other things) I got it to compile & link, but after starting client\n: & server I just get a black window; sometimes the client core dumps,\n: sometimes the server, sometimes I get a broken pipe, sometimes it\n: just sits there doing nothing although I occassionally get the\n: cursor to become a cross-hair in dog-fight, but that's it.  I've\n: sent word to the author plus what I did to fix it last week, but\n: no reply as yet.\n: \n: Peter K. Campbell\n: p.campbell@trl.oz.au\n\nI've discovered a bug in the libraries\/parser\/parser.c loadcolour function where it was generating a segmentation fault.  It appears the colourList[] is geting corrupted somehow.  I had it return random colours instead and everything worked great (except for a few colour problems) so I know its the only thing wrong.\n\nThe colour table somehow gets a couple of nulls placed in it so when the \"name\" of the colours are compared it crashes.  I haven't found the problem yet maybe someone else can.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nI think you have are addressing the wrong issue. The situation\nis more like: we both see some elves. This is established as\nfact since we can both touch them etc. Then one of us says, the\nelves have always been with us. The other says, no no there was\na time before elves were here. Which is the positive argument?\n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nYou can do a whole hell of a lot better than 2 or 3 degrees with\nthe differential timing measurements from the interplanetary network.\nIgnore the directional information from BATSE; just look at the time\nof arrival.  With three detectors properly arranged, one can often\nget positions down to ~arc minutes.\n\nBTW, about Oort cloud sources: shouldn't this be testable in the\nfairly near future?  Some of the GRBs have very short rise times (< 1\nms).  We could detect the curvature of the burst wavefront out to a\ndistance of on the order of b^2\/(t c) where b is the detector spacing\nand t the time resolution.  For t = 1 ms and b = 2 AU, this is on the\norder of 16 light years.  I understand statistics will reduce this\nnumber considerably, as would geometry if the burst is coming from the\nwrong direction.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nYer welcome to ride with me and my friends any time.  Just introduce your \nself at the earliest opportunity and say \"Mind if I rid with you guys?\"\n\n ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====----","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I agree with Jeff's reply.  I've never changed the brake fluid except when\nhaving a brake job, which is usually at around 80,000 miles (alot of\nfreeway driving).  However, I will start to do this as preventative\nmaintenance on my new car.  Also, there are brake system flushing agents\nthat can be used but the problem is that if any of the agent is left in the\nsystem, it can cause problems, so it's been recommended NOT to use them unless\nyou are 100% certain that you can remove all of the flushing agent.  Just for\nyour info, I was quoted a price of: labor=$29.95 and fluid=$9.95 for\nflushing the brake system; this in conjunction with a break job so I don't\nknow if it was more without the brake job. This is in the S.F Bay Area.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"ISBN 0-13-747270-6\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Question for those of you who seem to be fundamentalists (Stephen\nTice, the Cotera, Joe Gaut, et al)(apologies if I've mislabelled any\nof you, I've only started reading t.r.m since the BD disaster.  But I\nknow the Cotera is a fundy) and are defending Koresh and his beliefs\nas an example of True Christianity under persecution from the the Big\nBad Secular State: what is your opinion of his reported sexual habits?\nIf the reports are accurate, what IYO does this say about the quality of\nhis Christianity?  Or are the allegations just part of the Big\nCover-Up?\n\n(I remain deliberately neutral on the cause of the fire: I wouldn't\nput it past Koresh to have torched the place himself.  On the other\nhand, if the propane-tank-accident story is correct, I wouldn't put it\npast the FBI to try to cover its ass by claiming Koresh did it.  I\nhope your government does a VERY thorough investigation of the whole\ndebacle, and I'll be disappointed if a few heads don't roll.  The\nauthorities seem to have botched the original raid, and in the matter\nof the fire, are guilty of either serious misjudgement, or reckless\nendangerment.)","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n                                                                     ^^^^^^^^^^\n\nO.K. people, so it's not tied.  I meant leads 2-1........  Shoot me if you\nmust.\n\n-JPC\n\n-- ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Hi there again...\nI still have a few tapes left...\n\nAs before they are $2.50 each (postage paid, 1st class).\nMultiple orders appreciated, but not necessary...\nPackage deals welcome...\n\nThanks...\nChris Bray\n\nLewis, Huey|Sports\n\tContains \"Heart of Rock and Roll\", \"Heart and Soul\", \"Want a New\n\tDrug\", \"Walking on a Thin Line\", \"If This is It\", and more!!!\n\nHooters: Nervous Night\n\tContains: And We Danced, Day By Day, All You Zombies, Nervous Night...\n\nPoison|Look What the Cat Dragged In\n\tTheir 1st tape. Contains \"Cry Tough\", \"I Wont Forget You\", \n\t\"Talk Dirty to Me\", and more!\n\nHall & Oates|Big Bam Boom\n\tContains: \"Out of Touch\", \"Possession Obsession\", and more!\n\nRatt|Out of the Cellar\n\tContains: Wanted Man, Round and Round, and more!\n\nQuiet Riot|Condition Critical\n\tContains: Mama Weer All Krazy Now\nOutfield|Play Deep\n\tContains: Say It Isn't So, Your Love, All the Love in the World,\n\tand more!\n\nPlant, Robert|Shaken n' Stirred\n\tContains: Little By Little, plus more...\n\nJourney|Raised on Radio\n\tContains: Girl Cant Help It, Suzanne, Be Good to Yourself, Ill Be\n\tAlright Without You, Why Cant This Night Go On Forever...\n\nDuran Duran|Arena\n\tContains: Is There Something I Should Know?, Hungry Like the Wolf,\n\tNew Religon, Wild Boys, Planet Earth, and more!\n\nMonkees|Then and Now - The Best of the Monkees\n\tContains: All their big hits plus some...\n\nINXS|Kick\n\tContains: Mediate, New Sensation, Devil Inside, Need You Tonight,\n\tNever Tear Us Apart, Mystify, and more! GREAT TAPE....\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"How do you solve the problem when the message \"Cannot perform malloc\"\nshows for XtCreateManagedWidget call?\n\nI have the application written in X11R5 running on DECstation using\nAthena widgets.  As soon as I added codes to do Remote Procedure Call,\nthe program refused to work.  I also have my program working using\njust Xlib calls with RPC.  My executable code is about 1.4M and I don't\nhave any idea how much memory is the DECstation 3100\/5100.\n\nAny help will be appreciated.  Thanks.\n\n-- ","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nIt might be interesting for folk to know that the Church of Scotland\n(also a Presbyterian church)  managed to \"agree to disagree\" over\nwomen's ordination for 25 years.  The reasoning was that congregations\nare free to call whoever they wish, and that Ministers and Sessions\nchoose elders.  If a congregation did not wish to have a woman, they\nwere not obliged to, and if a Session did not wish to, they could not\nbe forced to.  (Note that the who issue of freedom to call on the part\nof the Congregation is VERY important here - this year is the 150th\nAnnivarsary of the Disruption, where the church split on that very\nissue, they didn't get back together for almost 80 years).\n\nA couple of years ago on the 25 anniversary of the allowing of womens\nordination the position was changed - so that, in theory, all\nministers and elders must recognise that women can be ordained.  In\ntheory, a minister who refused to ordain a woman to his Session, or\nrefused to work with a woman minister in Presbytery, could be\ndisciplined.  In practice this has not happened, and I believe it is\nunlikely to happen.  My personal view is that the new legislation was\na mistake, and that the permissive (but not prescriptive) legislation\nworked very well.  \n\nWe are going to start going round the homosexual debate at next years\nassembly.  At this years, a motion was put to ban the blessing of\nsame-sex couples (after an Edinburgh minister did so).  Our Panel on\nDoctrine is currently looking at marriage, and will report next year -\nthe matter will be considered and debated then.\n\nHope this is interesting","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n<Yawn>  Another right-wing WASP imagining he's an oppressed minority. \nPerhaps Camille Paglia is right after all.\n\n\"I would not have any argument or problem with a peace-nik if they [...]\nstayed out of all conflicts or issues\"?  I bet you wouldn't.  You'd love it. \n\nBut what makes you think that sitting back, saying nothing about defense\nissues, and letting people like you make all the decisions is anything to do\nwith \"their ideals\"?\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nInteresting.  Would you care to explain to me then, how my SoundBlaster\nPro card and my printer card are sharing IRQ 7 successfully?  I assure\nyou that they are both set to IRQ 7 and that I have no problem.  My\ncomputer is a DTK 286-12 IBM clone.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nThis effect disappears if you clean your apparatus after you kirlianed\nthe whole leaf and before kirlianing the leaf part.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I am looking for utilities for converting GIFs\/JPEGs\/PS etc to xpm format? Any \ninformation appreciated.\n\nThanks,","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nAnyone from Alabama knows it should be:\n\nIs \"The Bear\" Catholic?\nDoes a Pope shit in the woods?","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nThat was my point. If I play poker with Monopoly money I can bet \nanything I want.\n\n\nThis is exactly why Christianity is missionary in nature,\nnot just out of a need to irritate. 8-)\n \n\nTo the people who wrote the Bible and to whom the Bible is written,\nthere is evidence of love, but that is a cultural bias. This is\na poor answer which you needn't rebut.\n\nI will now pull the old bait and switch.\n\nI think you should use the Bible to judge man, not God.\nBy that I mean, if your moral intuition doesn't like what\nis described in the Bible, realize that such things are going on\nnow. I will avoid the semantic arguments about the cause of evil\nand ask what are you doing to fight it? Not you specifically,\nbut everyone, including myself. If I don't like the genocide\nin the Bible, what about the genocide that goes on right now?\nTo move beyond the question of a hell, realize that many people\nright now are suffering. If you think hell isn't fair and are\nwilling to sacrifice everything just to deny its existence,\nwhat about how life isn't fair? Right now there is a young mother\nwith three little kids who doesn't know how she will get through\nthe day. Right now there is a sixth grader who is a junkie.\nRight now there is an old man with no friends and no money to\nfix his TV. Instead of why doesn't God help them ask why don't\nwe help them. I think you are correct to challenge any Christian\nwho doesn't live his life with the compassion you seem to possess.\n\nYou want evidence of God. Find someone who is making a difference,\nsomeone you admire, someone who has been through some tough times\nand has come out with his head up. Ask the person how he does it. Ask \nthe Vietnam vet who was battle medic how he kept his mind. Ask the \nwoman who was pregnant at 15, kept the baby and now is a successful\nbusiness woman. Ask the doctor who has operated on a 1-1\/2 pound\nbaby. They won't all be Christians, or even what you might\ncall religious, but there will be something in common.\n\nGod is not defined in the Bible, God is defined by what is\nin those people's hearts. It doesn't matter if you can't give\nintellectual assent to any description you've heard, they're\nall wrong anyway. The compassion you already feel in your heart \nis a step in the right direction. Follow that instead.\nThen come back and read the Bible and you'll see that same\nthing described there.\n\n\nGood, I guess we only have to work on your grammar. 8-)","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"*yawn* The Church of Kibology did it first and better.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nMy god, how many chances do they get?  Operation Move (Philedelphia, early  \n80's), Black Panthers (Chicago, 1969), etc., etc.  Hell, we get heavily armed\nmillenial cults out west every couple of years.  Do with have to start a  \ncascade of times the feds have been in situations like this?\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nI hate to belabor the obvious once again, but if there had been an Orbiter\nemergency in the early stages of the original HST deployment mission, they\nwould have HAD to land with HST in the bay. \n\nIndeed they were worried about that.  One concern was the possibility that\nthey would lose a motor or something on the way up, and make orbit but one\nthat was too low to give HST a useful lifetime against atmospheric drag.  \nI believe the decision was to deploy HST even if the projected lifetime was\nas short as six months.  In fact we got an excellent orbit, on the upper\nenvelope of what the Shuttle can do.\n\nI have never heard of any serious consideration that HST might be brought \ndown for refurbishment.  You would have the horrendous cost of transporting,\ncleaning, re-testing, and re-certifying all the hardware on the ground, in\naddition to the lost observing time and the cost of a second deployment \nmission with the risks that we might not get such a good orbit the second \ntime.  And, you would probably STILL need a (third) servicing mission in a \nfew years as gyros and other components wear out.  Better to have two \nservicing missions in space (which could well happen) than to bring HST down \nand take it up again.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nI've mentioned this study a couple of times now: Ingestion of yogurt\ncontaining Lactobacillus acidophilus as prophylaxis for candidal\nvaginitis, Annals of Internal Medicine, 3\/1\/92 116(5):353-7.  Do you\nhave a problem with the study because they used yogurt rather than\ncapsules of lactobacillus (even though it had positive results)?\n\nThe study was a crossover trial of daily ingestion of 8 ounces of\nyogurt.  There was a marked decrease in infections while women were\ningesting the yogurt.  Problems with the study included very small\nnumbers (33 patients enrolled) and many protocol violations (only\n21 patients were analyzed).  Still, the difference in rates of infection\nbetween the two groups was so large that the study remains fairly\nbelievable.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nYep, you can use any type of UNIX, or maybe VMS, or buy a MAC or something...\n  If you want longer filenames for your documents, I heard of a wordprocessor for\nwindows which let you assign long names to files. Those long filenames could only be\nseen from that programs open\/save dialogs though... Maybe someone knows more about\nthis wordprocessor than I do?\n            \n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"HELLO,\nI HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY WINDOW 3.1 PROGRAM \nSOMETIMES WHEN I SAVE SETTINGS OF PROGRAM MANAGER THE SYSTEM CORRUPT ONE OR MORE\n *.GRP FILES AND PROGMAN.EXE CAN'T OPEN IT ON NEXT START. \nTHANKS FOR ANY ANSWER.\nCHROBERT\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":":   I have seen the existance of electronics solder with a 2% silver\n: content that seems to have good wetting and fatique reatings.\n:   Can anyone tell me why it is not used? (silver is not such an expensive\n: metal).\n: \n: \n: Andy\n: \n\nFor the most part, silver-solder is not used for general soldering\ntasks due to the mechanism of dendritic growth. Silver-solder, when\nexposed to high humidity and placed in an electric field, will actually\ngrow dendrites which are conductive and will adventually electrically\nshort across closely spaced nodes which are creating the field. For this \nreason, silver is allowed only in hermetically sealed assemblies.\nFortunatly, tin-lead solder is quite stable and will not grow dendrites\nas fast as silver-solder. Therefore, it is used extensively.\n\n \nJerry Long","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nKhufu and Khafre are both patented (#5003597).  Biham and Shamir showed\nthat differential cryptanalysis can break 16-round Khafre with a chosen-\nplaintext attack using 1500 different encryptions.  Khafre with 24 rounds\ncan be broken with the same attack using 2^53 different encryptions.\n(There are probably more efficient differential cryptanalytic attacks, if\nsomeone wants to take the time to look.)\n\nKhufu has key-dependent S-boxes, and is immune to differential cryptanalysis.\nSource code for this algorithm (and Khafre) are in the patent.\n\nSnefru is a public-domain one-way hash function.  The version of Snefru\nthat produces a 128-bit hash is vulnerable to differential cryptanalysis\n(vulnerable means that the attack is more efficient that brute force) for\nfour passes or less.  Given that, SHA and MD5 are much more efficient.\n\nOh yes, anyone interested in licensing the patent should contact Dave Petre,\nDirector of Patent Licencing for Xerox, (203) 986-3231.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n    If I recall, Jen said right up front how the sample set was derived.\nWhere's the FUD?\n\n\n\n    Does this mean I can flame you if I ever see you doing it?\n    Face it - the .advocacy groups are _for_ the kind of things that\nyou're preaching against.  This is why they were created in the first\nplace - to filter out all the crap from the newsgroups that might\ncontain real information.\n\n\t\t\t\t-Phil","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
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{"text":"I am very interested in hearing from all of you who are using or implementing\n3-D interactive applications what types of 3-D widgets you would\nlike to have in your applications.  \n\nA 3-D widget is usually located in the same scene as other 3-D objects of the \napplication.  It may let you\n\n- manipulate application data, the camera,\n  3-D objects in the scene and so on, or\n- view the status of the application or 3-D objects\n  via the widget's shape, color, position, orientation and so on, or\n- do whatever I missed but you think is possible.\n\nFor example, a manipulative widget can be virtual trackball (shown as a\npartially transparent sphere) super-imposed on the object to be rotated.\nA feedback widget can be a ruler with ends anchored to 2 objects.  The length\nof the ruler changes as the objects move and a numeric value is shown on the\nruler indicating the distance.  A widget can provide both manipulation and\nfeedback.  For example, the ruler can be used to change the distance between\nthe objects along its own axis.\n\n\nPlease e-mail me or post your opinions on 3-D interaction.  The information\nI gathered will help me design a 3-D UI construction tool.\nYour help is very much appreciated.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"About 50 people so far have asked, \"Once the FBI gets your Clipper keys,\nwon't they be able to read all your future and past traffic?\"\n\nThere has been no response from NIST, NSA, Ms. Denning, Mr. Hellman, or\nanyone else who might be able to give us an authoritative answer.\nThis is troubling.\n\nDidn't NSA think about this?  Or is it a feature, and they thought we\nwouldn't notice?\n\nI would have thought that by now they would have responded with something\nof the form, \"Well, that won't be a problem because ....\"\n\nVery curious.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nHow about half a friend?  The Motorola Codex preliminary V.Fast modem\n(which you can by right now) does 24.4 kbps (raw) over standard phone\nlines.  28.8 kbps is what is usually claimed for the \"final\" v.fast,\nbut you can't go out and buy that right now, the standard isn't done yet.\n\nAgain, voice can be compressed quite well down to 4000 or 8000 bps\ndepending on how good you want it to be, but that requires a DSP or a\nspecial ASIC to do in real-time.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Two LH Research SM11-1 power supplies (SM10 series).\n\n1000W, 5V, 200A (currently wired for 115VAC).\n\nControl lines: +\/- sense, on\/off, pwr. fail, high\/lo margin, current monitor.\n\nThey both work!\n\n(List price from LH Research is $824.00 f\/ qty. 1-9).\n\nAsking $150 each + shipping.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nG'day Brian,\n\nI'll be blunt about this. The ONLY reasonable explanation of Roberts\nalgorithm is in\n\nProcedural Elements for Computer Graphics\nRogers\nMcGraw-Hill Book Co. 1985\n\nGo to the library and look at this.\n\nThere is also a somewhat muddled explanation in the first edition\nof Newman and Sproull.\n\nThe algorithm described in PECG runs in near linear time.\n\nLuck,","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nI bought a set of ARE's a few months back and decided to add locks\nso that I could keep my new rims. I haven't had a balance problem \nyet so I assume that it might be just particular to your type of\nstock nuts. My rims were balanced with new BFG T\/A's at a speed \nshop to the finest setting on their bal. machine, so that helps too.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Some  people working a few cubes over have come up with this need, and\nit seems that someone out there just might have done it  already,  and\ncan point me to some tools that would help. What they'd like to do is:\nGiven a window that is taking a long time to draw (because either  the\ndata  is  arriving  over a slow link, or the $DISPLAY is across a slow\nlink), they would like to first paint a low-resolution version of  the\npicture,  and then repaint it in higher resolution.  Thus, the picture\nmight first be generated in 1\/4 resolution, with each  4x4  square  of\npixels  being  filled  in  with a single color.  Next, each 4x4 square\nwould be replaced by 4 2x2 squares; finally the 1x1 version  would  be\npainted.\n\nSince  one of the scenarios is with the window being on the other side\nof a slow link, the low-res version obviously wouldn't be  transmitted\nas  a bitmap; that wouldn't help at all.  Instead, there would have to\nbe a process on the far end that receives the  low-res  picture  as  a\nsmall  bitmap,  and  blows up each pixel into a square (sorta like the\nmagnifier programs do).  This brings up the question of whether the  X\nserver  can help.  That is, when a window is opened, is there a way to\nask that a \"filter\" program be run to process the pixels?  Or  is  the\nonly  way  to  use  something  like  rsh  to start up a remote process\n(\"Permission denied\" ;-), and have it open a local window?\n\nIt seems the most likely scenario is a library routine that starts  up\nsuch  a  program  remotely, and then accepts bitmaps, compressing each\none by some amount, and sending them to the remote program to  expand.\nBut  if  there is something that X itself can do to help, it's be nice\nto hear about it.  (I looked in several FMs,  but  if  it's  there,  I\nobviously  don't  know  the keywords ;-).  If someone has a nifty tool\navailable that packages it all, we might want to get a copy.\n\nOh, yes; this is to run on some Suns.  Part of the idea  is  to  build\ndemos  that  can  show such things as \"If this were run across, say, a\n4800-bps link, this is how fast the pictures would appear.\"  Then  the\ncustomer would get a feel for the speed that they need to pay for.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"In my quest for speed, I've run into a problem. 66.66 mhz and 80 mhz\nclock oscillators are available but I haven't found any speeds between\n66.66 and 70 mhz for further testing. Fox Electronics (813) 693-0099 can make custom oscillators but if anyone knows a source cheaper than $12\/osc please\nlet me know. Some 68 and 70 mhz units would complete my speed trials on the\nold Q700","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI find it very interesting that you say there will be 2.5 million\nqueers in the march on Washington.  The largest figure I've seen in\nthe press is 1 million and we all know how liberal the press is with\ntheir numbers. :)\n\nFor another thing, 1% of 250 million is 2.5 million not 6.  Maybe\nthat's where you got the 2.5 million number.  Also, the number cited\nin the actual report is 1.5% so that would be about 3.75 million.\n\nAs for this march on Washington, I wonder how much the media is\ngoing to inflate the numbers this time.  Last time, for the\npro-abortion rally, they more than doubled the actual number of\npeople who showed up.  That and all the stories coming out of how\nthe press \"slants\" the news really makes one wonder who's watching\nthe watchers.\n\nBCNU.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nWell, you can't say that it don't work.  The inability to read 800k mac\ndisks is not a SW problem.  Rather, it's a HARDWARE limmitation on PCs. ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nWell, just when you think *nothing* will strike at a \nBMW-key-fob\/ostrich-feather-dipped-in-silly-putty-and-varnished-solid lure,\nsomebody comes along and inhales it right up to the lead swivel!\n\nThere *is* a Dog.\n\nIt's going to be pretty difficult to better (worsen?) a trolling scheme this \nlow, though.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
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{"text":"Would anyone have a few extra 3479P's lying around that I \ncould buy off of them.. Problem is that around here I can only perchase \nthem in $30 quantities, and I don't need this, and can't take this \nfinancially right now.... \n \n                        If anyone can accomodate me with this PLEASE \nreply to BOTH for the following mailing addresses...\n \n                        Thanks!!!\n \n_______________________________________________    \n             |                                 |\n   _______   |    Baden de Bari                |\n  \/       \\  |     baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca   |\n (| o   o |) |     baden@inqmind.bison.mb.ca   |\n  |   ^   |  | >> True life can only           |\n  \\  -=-  \/  | >> be experianced by            |\n   \\_____\/   | >> those who do not fear death. |","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nNot when the power has been cut off for weeks on end.  Any generators are\nno doubt out of fuel, too.  So all they would have is wood stoves and\nkerosene lanters (maybe).  It is alleged that the tanks pushing in the\nwalls knocked over the lanters, starting the fire.  Remember, the FBI\nhad bugs which they even used (illegally) to eavesdrop on private\nconversations with the lawyers.  If a suicide order were given they\nWOULD HAVE KNOWN IT IN TIME.  If the Feds had been concerned they would\nhave had emergency equipment ready.  Not an hour or so later, not\nleaving the water THEY TURNED OFF, off.  They could have turned it back\non.  They just didn't wanna.  Scores to settle...\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Dateline Tue, 20\/Apr93 03:38.\nIn , Antonio Pera of icop@csa.bu.edu  wrote to All at 1:133\/411,\n\n AP>         Recently, I heard the Red Sox on WROL a \n AP> Spanish-speaking radio station. I thought it was so \n AP> unreal. The Red Sox in Spanish? Anyway, I want to find\n AP> out how widespread this is? Being a NY native, I know \n AP> the scMets are on in Spanish but not the Yankmes. I \n AP> wuold think that LA,SD,Texas and Fla are on in Spanish. \n AP> Are there any Spanish-speaking networks or is this a \n AP> local\n\n    For the last couple of years, the Braves have been fostering a program to reach to the Latin American audience.  This has included licensing Spanish fan magazines, encouraging Spanish co-broadcasts, and marketing programs directed at the Latin American community.  One of the biggest heros to the Latin American audience has been Francisco Cabrerra (a fact of which he was slightly embarrassed!).  \n\nOne funny story is that during Spring Training, the Braves played a game in Mexico.  This game was broadcast back to Atlanta in Spanish.  It took the broadcasters a few innings to get a rythm going because they had to keep changing their location.  Seems it took a while to find a place where they could get a clear signal on their cellular phones through which they were calling the game!\n\n        David Deitch, (GIS) Atlanta\n\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Unless otherwise noted, I am mainly interested in USED items.\nIf you have (any of) the following for sale, please contact me:\n        EMail           mbeck@vtssi.vt.edu\n        Phone           (703)552-4381\n        USMail          Michael Beck\n                        1200 Progress Street #5500E\n                        Blacksburg, Virginia 24060\n \nPlease give as much info as possible (brand, age, condition, etc)\n~~~~~~~~~~WANTED as of 10AM, 4\/27\/93~~~~~~~~~~\n \nCOMPUTER EQUIP:\n \n1       CHEAP (<$100) tape drive - pretty much any kind for IBM (Used)\n \n1       Memory expansion card for PS\/2 Model 50Z\n \n1       Memory for PS\/2 Model 50Z (New or Used)\n \n1       High Density (1.2 mb) 5 1\/4 disk drive EXTERNAL\n \nNON-COMPUTER EQUIP:\n \n1       TV - 27\" or bigger, stereo\n \n1       VCR - 4 Heads, stereo\n \n1       Receiver - 100 Watts or more w\/ Dolby Prologic Surround Sound\n                capability\n \n1       Bed - Full or Queen sized - LOCAL OFFERS only, please","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nI am not a battery expert, but from recent reading, a lead acid battery\nwill self discharge at a relatively high rate, and if stored in a discharged\nstate, will develop a condition I think is called sulfation.  In storage,\neither the electrolyte should be removed and replaced for use (fat chance\nI'd ever do that at home), or the battery should be stored on a trickle\ncharge.  I have also (I think) read that the condition may be reversable\nif hooked up to a current limited charging circuit fro a LONG period of time.\nThe refernce I remember is to use C\/50 (where C is the amp hours) as the\ncharging circuit, and leave it hooked up for weeks.  Some of this may\nonly apply to Gel type cells, but I suspect the same applies to the liquid\ntype.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nOne more good reason for straight pipes or megaphones;-)\n\nRegards, Charles\nDoD0.001\nRZ350\n\nPs: Does anyone know if Opti oils sells direct by the case load?\nMy loacl dealership is charging 12.99 for a jug of injector oil,\nand it's breaking me;-)\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Boston Globe, Wednesday April 21 1993\n\ncol. 4  \"Bodies found in ruins as FBI defends raid on cult ranch\"\ncol. 5 \"Clinton blames Koresh, orders probe of siege\"\ncol. 2 \"The children: panws in a horrifying game\"\n\npg. 18, col. 1, Editorial page  \n\t\"Judgment at Waco\"\n\n\tNow the scientific and political scrutiny of the\nhorror show in Waco begins, though nothing can\nundo the tragedy that might have been prevented \nthere.\n\tForensic experts will study the rubble and\nashes of the Branch Davidian compound, where at\nleast 85 people, including 24 children, perished in\nsmoke and fire caused by theapocalyptic visions of\na manipulative madman AND A STUNNING LAPSE IN\nJUDGMENT BY FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS.\n   [emphasis added by me]\n\tInvestigators will re-create conditions at the\ncompound and identify accelerants and other fac-\ntors fueling the inferno.  That is their strong suit.\n\tBut the public must question why agents of the\nFederal Bureau of Investigation lacked the oper-\national skill and teh behavioral insight to resolve\nthe 51-day standoff free of flames and fury.\n\tThe loss of life most clearly reflects the demen-\ntia of cult leader David Koresh, whose personal\ndelusiosn are now seared on the public conscious-\nness.  His assembly of Davidians had stockpiles of\narms--and had used them.  LIttle in the way of\nrationality could be expected from Koresh, a self-\nconfsesed \"sinner without equal.\"\n\tWhat continues to mystify are th eactions of\nfederal agents, who bungled the case from the\nstart.  The misadventure began on Feb. 28 when\n100 agents of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, To-\nbacco and Firearms storemd the compound, intent\non seizing Koresh and a cache of automatic weap-\nons.  Four agents and an estimated  six cult mem-\nbers died inteh ensuing gun battle.  Earlier\noppor-tunities to isolate and arrest Koresh outside the\ncomplex had not been adequately explored.\n\tAuthorities prepared a siege and resolved that\nthose deaths would be the last.  Fifty-one days into \nthe siege there was no public outcry to storm the\ncompound.\n\tIt had been correctly perceived that the chil-\ndren inside \"Rancho Apocalypse\" were essentially \nhostages.  With their lives at stake, there was no\nreason for the government to be impatient.  The\ngovernment's superior firepower, control of water\nand utilities and freedom of movement created the\nconditions for a belated but bloodless resolution.\n\tNeither Attorney General Janet Reno nor the\nFBI has provided a sigle compelling reason for\nabandondoning the course of patience.\n\tIf intelligence was accurate and Koresh was\ngrowing increasingly violent and bizarre, it is diffi-\ncult to see how a tear-gas attack launched by an\nM-60 combat vehicle would clear his mind.  If re-\nports of escalating child abuse were accurate, they\nwould have to be weighted against the potential for\neve ngreated hamr.\n\n\netc etc tec....\n[paragraphs, 2.5 paragraphs deleted]\n\nBut some of the responsibility rests with Clinton,\nand inexperienced president who did not pay\nenough attention to the life-and -death decisions\nbeing made on WAco.\n\tIf Reno is to be faulted for anything, ti would\nbe for her overreliance on the judgment of law en-\nforcement officers--a common problem among\nprosecutors.\n\tFull investigations into th eWaco tragedy must\nbe conducted by both the executive and legislative\nbranches.  The first step is to verify how the blaze \nstarted.  Though apportioning blame will play a \nrole, it is of greater importnace to find strategies\nto elude the fire next time.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"The Waco Quiz\n\nWhat would you do in the following hypothetical situations?\n\nYou have committed no crime.  The BATF conducts a \"no-knock\" raid.\na) Hands in air. Say \"Do you have a warrant?\" Think of hefty suit settlement.\nb) Say \"You have 1 second to identify yourself as a cop or I shoot.\"\nc) Shoot.  Heck, at least in federal prison you might get to have sex.\n\nYou have killed federal agents. They blast strange music at you.\na) Come out with hands up. \"I wish to turn state's evidence.\" Hope deal's good.\nb) Wait, figuring other federal agents will get bored and go on vacation.\nc) Wait. If they come after you there will be a chance to kill MORE g-men.\n\nThe FBI has you surrounded, asks you to come out immediately.\na) Come out, figuring long prison term is chance to catch up on some writing.\nb) Stall. You just can't concentrate when you're on trial for some reason.\nc) Decide to write novel-length prophecy now while ideas are fresh in mind.\n\nFBI calls and says they will use tear gas if you don't come out.\na) Come out with hands up. Your radical bro-in-law hated getting gassed at UC.\nb) Get out your gas mask. Really, these feds will have to give up eventually.\nc) Shoot at vehicles delivering tear gas. It's rude to break down a man's door!\n\nFBI calls and says they will use tanks to break down your walls.\na) Come out with your hands up. Flimsy cardboard construction won't last long.\nb) With presence of mind, move flammable devices away from tinder-dry haybales.\nc) Spread some kerosene around and hit a match. Big Schwarzenegger ending.\n\nPoints are awarded in the following manner: 0 points for every (a) answer,\n-1 points for every (b) answer, and -2 points for every (c) answer.\nCount 'em up and compare with your friends!\n\nIf you answered (a) all the time, you are probably in jail, but alive.\nIf you answered (b) all the time, you may still be holed up in your compound.\nIf you answered (c) all the time, you are probably dead.\n\n(Feel free to copy this and distribute to your friends.)\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nI too have seen the miracle of Maxima Chain Wax.  Not only does it lube\nand stay where it's supposed to, but I swear I can ride faster now.  Yes,\nnot only does it lube your chain, it makes you a better rider.  And more\nattractive to members of the opposing sex.  And smarter.  And....","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Title says it all, I'm after a Vectrex system. If you have one and want\nto get rid of it let me know.\n\nI can offer cash, or possible trades with Megadrive and SNES games.\n\nCheers\nMarc\n\n ------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n      **     **      *  ****** ***    *   |             On the net,\n     ** *    **     *** **     ** *   *   |     no-one can hear you scream!\n    **   *   **     *** ****   **  *  *   |------------------------------------\n   **     *  **     *** **     **   * *   |  email   marc@comp.lancs.ac.uk\n  **       * ******  *  ****** **    **   |      marc@computing.lancaster.ac.uk","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nThat's surprising -- I haven't seen any incompatibilities with mine,\nversion 6.01.  The version that came with my upgrade to 6.01 had some\nproblems, but Symantec fixed those and I've haven't seen anything wrong\nsince.\n\nI'm not running Windoze, by the way.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"In <1993Apr24.214843.10940@midway.uchicago.edu> eeb1@quads.uchicago.edu\n\n\nIf the ONLY people proposing a \"moment of silence\" are doing so as a\nsham to sneak in prayers, then it MUST be opposed.  What the HELL have\nprayers to do with public schooling?  [I ask this question as a devout\nChristian.]\n\n\n\nTheir kids can bloody-well pray any God-damned time they WANT to.  And\nnothing, on heaven or earth, in government or the principal's office,\ncan prevent or in any other way deal with their doing so.  *Especially*\nif the prayer is silent (as bursting out into the \"Shema Yisrael\" or\nsome other prayer *might* be construed as disruptive if audible :-))\nNo one ever prevented ME from praying in public school!  They hardly\neven prevented me from masturbating in study hall.\n\nI should have thought better of someone posting from a UChicago address.\nHow can you manage to say such nonsense without shame?\n\nMuslim students might have a complaint, if they are prevented from setting\nout their rugs and doing the proper ablutions before prayer at the times\nspecified in the Qu'ran.  Jews would probably like the opportunity to daven\nwith tefillim and whatever else *they* require, at *their* appropriate times.\nI do not see THEM complaining (though Muslims and Jews have a case that no\nChristian I have ever heard has been able to make.)\n\nThe \"Christian\" insistence on a PUBLIC, UNIVERSAL, ENFORCED \"moment of\nprayer^H^H^H^H^H^Hsilence\" is nothing but the Inquisition \"naturalized\"\ninto the American context.  It is offensive to the Gospel of Christ.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nInteresting development.  Especially since the Feds (and the U.N.)\naccused Saddam Hussein of using illegal chemicals on his own \ncitizens as well.  Hmmm...  Republican Guard\/Iraqu Army = FBI\/BATF?  \nYou decide.\n--\nI hope very much that others who will be tempted to join cults\nand to become involved with people like David Koresh will be\ndeterred by the horrible scenes they have seen over the last \nseven weeks.  \n\n           -President William Jefferson Clinton, April 20, 1993,\nat a press conferance held the day after the Branch Davidians \n\"compound\" went up in flames while under attack by the FBI\/ATF\nnear Waco, Texas.  Is your church U.S. Government approved?\n\nCONNECT THE GOD-DAMNED DOTS!!!  Ministry, TV Song","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"About two years ago I posted the following:\n \nI am planning to write a new book called \"Great Canadian Scientists.\"\nPlease forward your nominations to me: shell@cs.sfu.ca\n \nThe rules are that the person must be a Canadian citizen. They don't have\nto be born in Canada or even live in Canada, but they must have (or have\nhad, if they are dead) Canadian citizenship while they are\/were great\nCanadian scientists.\n \nAbout 70 people have been nominated already and they are listed at the\nend of this posting.\n \nI'm not quite sure what should constitute greatness, and there may be a\ngray area here. If you have any ideas on criteria for greatness, I would be\npleased to hear them. In any event, please nominate people even if you are\nnot sure they are great. I would like as big a list as possible.\n \nPlease give me a name and email address, phone number or mail address, so\nthat I can contact the person. If you don't know any of the above, then\ngive me their last known whereabouts. Also please give your reason for why\nyou think the person should be considered a great Canadian scientist.\n \nAfter I have the list, I will choose about six of the most interesting ones\nand do in-depth biographies of those individuals in the style of Tracy\nKidder's \"Soul of a New Machine\" or some other dramatic technique.\nThe rest of the great Canadian scientists will appear in an appedix with \none paragraph biographies.\n \nIf you have any other ideas about this project, I am interested to hear\nthem.\n \nSo far, I have received 68 nominations as follows:\n \n \nFirst Name     Last Name      Nominator            Famous For\n----------     ---------      ---------            ----------\nSid            Altman         Kuszewski, John      Catalytic RNA(Nobel Chem 89)\nFrederick      Banting        me                   Insulin (Nobel U23 medicine)\nDavidson       Black          Stanley, Robert      Discovered Peking Man\nJames R.       Bolton         Warden, Joseph       chemistry?\nRaoul          Bott           Smith, Steven        Math: algebraic topology.\nWillard        Boyle          Chamm, Craig         Co inventor of CCD\nGerard         Bull           Stanley, Robert      Ballistics and gunnery\nDennis         Chitty         Galindo-Leal, Carlos First animal ecologist\nBrian C.       Conway         Tellefsen, Karen     Electrochemistry\nStephen        Cook           Mendelzon, Alberto   NP-completeness, complexity\n?              Copp           Kuch, Gerald         biochem aspects of physiol\nH.S.M.         Coxeter        Calkin, Neil J.      Regular polytopes (math)\nP. N.          Daykin         Palmer, Bill         Chem, mosquito repellant\nH. E.          Duckworth      anonymous            Mass Spectroscopy,  admin\nJack           Edmonds        Snoeyink, Jack       Math, Operations research\nReginald       Fessenden      Johnsen, Hans        Wire insulation, light bulb\nUrsula         Franklin       McKellin, William    Physics archeol. materials\nJ. A.          Gray           Gray, Tom            Nuclear physics, The Gray\nE. W.          Guptill        Chamm, Craig         Slotted array radar\nDonald         Hebb           Lyons, Michael       Learning (Hebbian synapses)\nGerhard        Herzberg       me                   Optical spectr Nobel 71\nJames          Hillier        me                   Electron Microscope (Can\/Am)\nCrawford S.    Holling        Galindo-Leal, Carlos Ecology, predators and prey\nDavid          Hubel          Lyons, Michael       Visual cortex (Nobel med ?)\nKenneth        Iverson        Dare, Gary           Invented APL\nJ. D.          Jackson        Austern, Matt        Elementary Particle Theory\nAndre          Joyal          Pananagden, Prakash  Category theory, categ Logic\nMartin         Kamen          me                   Carbon-14 (Canadian\/Amer.)\nIrving         Kaplansky      Knighten, Bob        Algebra, functional analysis\nGeorge S.      Kell           Kell, Dave           Hot water freezing\nT. E.          Kellogg        Palmer, Bill         Chem, mosquito repellant\nGeraldine      Kenney-Wallace Siegman, Anthony     Chemistry ? Administration\nBrian          Kernaghan      Brader, Mark         C programming language\nMichael L.     Klein          Marchi, Massimo      Theoretical Chemistry\nCharles J.     Krebs          Galindo-Leal, Carlos Ecology, Krebs effect\nK. J.          Laidler        Tellefsen, Karen     Chemical Kinetics\nG. C.          Laurence       Palmer, Bill         Physics ????\nRaymond        Lemieux        Smith, Earl          First synthesized glucose\nMartin         Levine         Meunier, Robert      Computer vision\nEdward S.      Lowry          himself              Computer programming\nPere           Marie-Victorin Meunier, Robert      Jardin Botanique de Montreal\nColin          MacLeod        Turner, Steven       Nobel (?) DNA discovery?\nMarshall       McLuhan        Clamen, Stewart      Social sci, communications\nBen            Morrison       Willson, David       Aurora Borealis\nLawrence       Morley         Strome, Murray       Plate Tektonics\/Remote sense\nFarley         Mowat          Abbott, John         Northern Animal rights?\nKevin          Ogilvie        Kendrick, Kelly      Genetics, cure for herpes?\nSir William    Osler          Lyons, Michael       Medicine\nP.J.E.         Peebles        Vishniac, Ethan      Most important cosmologist\nWilder         Penfield       Perri, Marie         Anatomical basis for memory\nJohn           Polanyi        me                   chemiluminescensce Nobel86\nDenis          Poussart       Meunier, Robert      Computer Vision\nAnatol         Rapoport       Lloyd-Jones, David   conflict theory, game theory\nHoward         Rapson         Sutherland, Russell  Pulp chemistry\nHans           Selye          Goel, Anil K.        Psychology of stress.\nWilliam        Stephenson     Wilkins, Darin       WW2 Enigma code, Wire photo\nBoris          Stoicheff      Siegman, Anthony     Raman Spectroscopy\nDavid          Suzuki         Meister, Darren      Science communication\nHenry          Taube          Parker, Wiley        Physical Chemistry Nobel83\nRichard        Taylor         Manuel, John         Verified Quark model Nobel90\nDavid          Thompson       Eisler, Michael      Mapped western Canada\nEndel          Tulving        Green, Christopher   Psychology of memory\nBill           Tutte          Royle, Gordon        matroid theory (math)\nI              Uchida         Palmer, Bill         Down's syndrome\nJ. Tuzo        Wilson         Collier, John        Continental Drift theory\nR. H.          Wright         Palmer, Bill         Chem, mosquito repellant\nJ.L.(Allen)    Yen            Leone, Pasquale      VL baseline interferometry\nWalter         Zinn           me                   Breader Reactor (Can\/Amer.)\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n \nThe list is growing nicely. It's amazing to see just how much was discovered\nby Canadians. Actually there are many more who were born in Canada, but\nbecame Americans after graduate school.\n \nPlease note: a lot of people have nominated Alexander Graham Bell but I\nfeel he was really a Scottish\/American with a summer home in Canada. Now\nI know this is debatable, but please don't nominate him again.\n \nIf anyone can fill in some of the question marks on the list, please drop\nme a line.\n==================================================\n \nThat was two years ago. Since then, I have received a grant from Science\nCulture Canada, a division of Supply and Services Canada to research the\nbook. Since my old posting the book has evolved into an educational book\nfor kids aged 9 - 14 (though this may change again) It will have about\n40 two-page spreads with a large graphic in the middle and text\/graphic\nboxes all around on the following subjects: Vital statistics and photo of\nthe scientist, Personal statement from the scientist, Narrative of a few\nmoments in the life of the scientist, \"What I was doing when I was 12\",\nSo you want to be a <insert kind of scientist>, Experiment you can do. There \nwill be an appendix with 100 - 200 more scientists with one paragraph\nbiographies who didn't quite make it to the double spreads. The whole thing\nwill then be published on CD-ROM with video and sound clips for added\nrichness. I am looking for a CD-ROM publisher as well. The text part may\nalso be available on the CANARIE electronic highway being developed in\nCanada as well.\n \nI am still looking for a publisher though Penguin Canada came close \nto being it. Hope to find one soon. \n \nI would like to again ask for more nominations, especially in the\npure sciences of Physics, Chemistry and Biology. Also criticisms of \nthe list are welcomed. Also women and French-Canadian scientists are needed.\n \nI hope this posting will get others to nominate more Great Canadian\nScientists, and to discuss what is \"great\" what is \"Canadian\" and what is\n\"scientist\".\n \nPlease respond to:\nshell@sfu.ca\n \nor\nBarry Shell   604-876-5790\n \n4692 Quebec St. Vancouver, B.C.  V5V 3M1 Canada","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"# #    A new natonal study on male sexual behavior, the most thorough\n# #    examination of American men's sexual practices published since\n# #    the Kinsey report more than four decades ago,\n# \n# Right off the bat this information is flawed.  \"Most throrough\"?  I'm\n# sorry, but Masters & Johnson put out a report within the past few\n# years.  The Kinsey Institute has been quite active since it was\n# founded oh-so-many years ago.  They, too, recently put out a new\n# report on sexuality.\n\nI was quoting a news story.  I have no idea why they claim this was\nthe most \"through examination.\"\n\n# #    shows about 2\n# #    percent of the men surveyed had engaged in homosexual sex and\n# #    1 percent considered themselves exclusively homosexual.\n# \n# I hate to be picky, but let's do the math.  If we take the cities of\n# New York City and Los Angeles alone, we can find approximately 3.5\n# million gay people...making about 1.75 million gay men.\n\nWHAT?  Even in San Francisco, the Dept. of Public Health estimates\nthat only 11% of the male population is gay.  What you are claiming\nis that of the 16 million people in the NYC and LA areas, that more\nthan 10% are gay.  What is the source of your numbers?  Keep in\nmind that attempts by CDC to determine homosexual percentage in\nAmerican cities have given numbers <3%.\n\n# 1% of the American male population is about 1.25 million.\n# \n# So what this study says is that all gay males live in New York City or\n# Los Angeles, and about half-a-million people are lying about being gay.\n# \n# Something smells funny....\n\nYes, your 1.75 million number smells funny.\n\n# Brian Evans                |     \"Bad mood, bad mood...Sure I'm in a bad mood!","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"ites:\nI realized that my generalizations would probably have problems\nunder scrutiny from various  Asian points of view.  They need to be \ndiscussed in detail, indeed. But for the purposes of this newsgroup \nand thread  thus far and in this newsgroup, I risked oversimpli-\nfication.  My main purpose was to emphasize that I was not coming\nfrom a Buddhist or Hindu point of view.  As you observed, the\nmain context is that of Christianity.  But by all means, add comments\nand corrections as you find them.\n\nI wrote a longer reply addressing some of your points, but decided\nto not post it. Perhaps it would be more appropriate for soc.religion.\neastern. Instead I just add the following couple of items about karma \nand reincarnation as I see the matter from an anthroposophical and \na Christian point of view.\n\n1. Karma is not simple reward and punishment dealt out by a \"judging\n   deity\".\n\n2. Reincarnation is not the same as being born again.\n\n3. Reincarnation is not the same as the resurrection of the body.\n\n4. Reincarnation and karma do not contradict the fundamental teachings\n   of Christianity about God, the fall, the being. incarnation, death,\n   and resurrection of Christ, his coming again, sin, grace, forgiveness, \n   salvation, and the last judgement.\n\n\nOrigen's work was mostly lost. He was not anathematized, to my knowledge, \nbut his writing comes down largely in fragments and quotations from enemies.\nPerhaps someone else can comment on Origen.  I don't know if there\nis a specific statement about reincarnation from him, but from what I do\nknow about him he probably did hold to the teaching in one form or another.\n\nI don't know too much about the history of the idea of reincarnation in\nthe Church. However, I heard an interesting story about Pope John Paul II\nfrom an astronomer who teaches at the University of Cracow.  The Pope likes\nto go to Poland for a scientific conference every couple of years so he\ncan relax and talk Polish to friends and fellow countrymen.  My acquaintance,\nan anthroposophist, related the fact that Woitila knew about Steiner and\nAnthroposophy from his early days.  Before he became a priest he was an\nactor in a dramatic company in Cracow whose leader was a pupil of Steiner\nand based his acting and directing methods on Steiner's indications.  Part\nof the work was the study of the basic works of anthroposophy.  Well,\ngoing to this conference with him a few years ago, the astronomer and another\nPolish anthroposophist thought they would ask the Pope what he thought about\nAnthroposophy.  They chickened out at the last minute, but one of them did ask\nhim what he thought about reincarnation.  The Pope smiled and said, \n\"Actually there have been quite a few good Catholics who believed in \nreincarnation,\" and he proceeded to name several from the earliest times\nto modern times.  Then he changed the subject. My Polish friend did not\nsay whether Origen was among those he mentioned.\n\nGerry Palo (73237.2006@compuserve.com) ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n \nSame engine, different state of tune (less hp and maybe more torque). My\nfriend at work regularly takes 6 people in his and it seems to haul around\njust fine.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"The Denver Post (supposed voice of the supposed Rocky Mountain Empire)\nran the following in the 'Firearms, Supplies' classified heading on \nFriday, 23 April 1993.  If you have an opinion about their new found\nwisdom, I am told that the person to speak with is one Mr. Walters,\n(303)820-1267.\n\n\tNotice\n\n\tThe Denver Post will no longer \n\tknowingly accept any advertise-\n\tment to buy or sell assault weap-\n\tons.  The Denver Post finds that \n\tthe use of assault weapons poses\n\ta threat to the health, safety, and\n\tsecurity of its readers.\n\nLet 'em know what you think...\n\n--Dan\n--\nSpooksmoke: Revolution, Assasination, Thorium, Cobalt-60, Clintin, CIA, NSA, SHC\n  DoD #202 \/ loki@acca.nmsu.edu \/ liberty or death \/ taylordf@ucsu.colorado.edu \n                 Send me something even YOU can't read...\n-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----\nVersion: 2.2","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI don't buy this at all.  I think things are colored to a very large\ndegree of preconceived notions of who the players involved are.  Try\nthis exercise:\n\nXXX is pitching today.  His team scores 4 in the first inning, and 3\nin the fourth.  XXX gives up 0 in the 1st through 4th.  In the fifth,\nhe gives up 3 runs.  In the 6th, he gives up 2 more.  The score is now\n7-5, with XXX's team still on top.\n\nI contend that if XXX were Jack Morris, the assessment would be \"he is\na gutty veteran who pitches only as well as he has to to win.\"\n\nIf XXX were Mike Trmbley, the assessment would be \"he is an\ninexperienced rookie who doesn't know how to pitch.  Needs more\nseasoning.  Send him to AAA.  Or to the spice rack.\"\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Iff the phones transmit their serial nos. as part of the message then what\nis to say that each phone can take that serial number and use it to generate\nthe required key....\n\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nSee if Radio Shack has a National Semiconductor Adjustable Voltage \nRegulator, (National) part number: LM350T or LM350K.  These devices are \nrated for an input to output differential of up to 35 Volts @ 3 Amps.\n\nDigi-Key Corp. has these parts, as well as several other useful regulators.\nIf you don't have their catalog, their phone number is: 1-800-344-4539.\n\nI can only guess that you may intend to recharge a 7.5 VDC nicad battery \nwith this device, and if I'm right, you may want to look through some of the \nhobbiest books to get various ideas for battery charging circuits, first.\n\nIf you get stuck, e-mail me your FAX number, if you have one, and I'll send \nyou some suggestions or schematics.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nI'm no defender of the AEC, but it is worth noting that it is unfair to tar\nthat organization with the decidedly minority scientific views of its\nformer chairperson and one term Washington governor, Dr. Dixie Lee Ray.\nDr. Ray's political agenda is well-known and documented.  Likewise, her\nlack of objectivity in analysing scientific data is well-known.\n\njsh","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Hi! I recently got hold of an old\/obsolete PC. First thing I am trying to do\nwith it, is making it work. Seems the switches in the back have been toggled\nsince last it was used, and I do not have the manual.\nCan anybody help me to identify this beast, and mail me the prober switch-settings?\nAll I know is that is is a Bondwell 38, made in 1986, most likely a 286,\ncan be toggled between 4.77 and 8 mHz, and looks like no changes have been made.\nAny information would be appreciated.\n\n-- \nTerje Johansen at Trondheim College of Engineering, Norway.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Okay, okay.  I forgot about that.  Sheeesh.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\nWe use it as starting fluid for jet ski's. The fact that its a lubricant \nworks very well since jet ski's are 2 cycle. It also helps when a ski\nfloods with water because we clean the spark plus with the stuff.\n\n\nOB sci.electronics:\n\n\nI have an office\/studio in my garage with a phone in it. Our wireless phone\nhas a page feature where you can make the phone or hand set ring to get\nthe attention of the other person. Is there a simple circuit that I can use\nover the second pair of wires (or the first pair) to emulate this effect\nwith the phone in the garage? (ie push a button to make the phone ring in the\nhouse or push a button to make it ring in the garage.)\n\n\n\nThanks\n\n\nXavier\n ","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I'm in need of a videotaped copy of a pc (pd) program.  Please let me know if\nyou can do this.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n(Re: the newsgroup -- followups set to talk.politics.mideast where this\nbelongs.)\n\nThis may make the term 'civil war' dubious, but it does nothing to the\nphrase 'destroy the government'. An occupying government is still a govern-\nment, and the Palestinians have made it quite clear that their goal is\nnot simply to prevent it from occupying the territories that don't con-\nfer citizenship (which is your own determination of the distinction) but\nto wipe it out entirely (and, not incidentally, the entire Jewish population\nit rules with it). This is an intent to 'destroy the government', no\nmatter where the government happens to be from.\n\n\nWasn't a requirement for democracy in Athens. For that matter, isn't\na requirement for the term democracy in the United States, which doesn't\nlet non-citizens vote either. Both the United States and Israel have\nprocesses whereby it is possible to acquire citizenship, with a great\ndeal of effort and a modicum of screening -- it's just that it isn't\nautomatic for living in the territories. It isn't automatic for living\nin New York, either.\n\nThat said, suit yourself. Having never considered democracy the ultimate\nin Good In This World, I could care less if you feel like calling Israel,\nor America, or anywhere else, a democracy. Personally, I withhold the\nterm from Israel for the same reason I withhold it from Britain... the\nparliamentary system is a serious handicap.\n\n\nAgain, suit yourself. In which case Israel is *not* attacking its own\npeople, it is fighting a war on foreign soil, in which case the residents\nare entitled to play rough, yes -- but Israel's allowed to get just as\nrough, within the bare limits of the rules of war. This includes, among\nother things, the right to shoot or bomb *anyone* a national of the coun-\ntry in question who is fighting them (which permits mass frontal assault\non all rock-throwers), along with the right to take out any installation\nof military importance (certain villages with too-good fortifications can\nbe handled by aerial bombing, as can waterways since they count as supply\nlines to the enemy), and the right to do anything whatsoever to whatever\nconstitutes a government that they can lay hands on (if Hamas is trying\nto set up as the ruling party, let them beware). \n\nIf this is not the scenario you want, I recommend you go back to calling\nit a civil war. Civil wars have to be handled nicer. You cannot say the\nPalestinians are a nation fighting a resistance war against a foreign\nnation and still call Israel a government who is treating its own people\ncruelly. If the Palestinians are fighting a war against a foreign country,\nso is Israel, and the gloves come *off*.\n\n\t-Naomi\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nFor those of you still unsure whether this is satire, the jury is still out:\n\n    \"Also yesterday, even though the compound no longer exists, the\n     US attorney's office here released formerly sealed documents,\n     including a search warrant and related affidavits, that authorities\n     planned to use when the siege was over.\n\n    \"These documents did not include the original warrants the Bureau of\n     Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms had in late February, which to this\n     day have never been released.\n\n    \"...one of the documents indicated the agency planned to seek\n     samples of Koresh's handwriting not only to verify that he had\n     signed for some gun purchases, but also that he espoused\n     'certain doctrines hostile to law enforcement and particularly\n     the ATF.'\"\n\nSo, one of the charges against Koresh seems to be Contempt of Cop -- he\nexpressed hostility to the BATF.  That chilly feeling in your gonads is \nperfectly normal, folks... it should go away in about 51 days.\n\n        The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.\n        ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ\n        abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz\n\nThat should save them the trouble of subpoena-ing samples.  Heavens knows \nI want to cooperate fully, meinherren.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I am looking for a printer utility which stay in Window 3.1 as an icon and\nlet you drag a file to it to issue the printing.\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n(1)\n\n   You know ed,...  You're right!  Andi shouldn't be comparing\n   Israel to the Nazis.  The Israelis are much worse than the\n   Nazis ever were anyway.  The Nazis did a lot of good for\n   Germany, and they would have succeeded if it weren't for the\n   damn Jews.  The Holocaust never happened anyway.  Ample\n   evidence given by George Schafer at Harvard, Dept. of History,\n   and even by Randolph Higgins at NYU, have shown that the\n   Holocaust was just a semitic conspiracy created to obtain\n   sympathy to piush for the creation of Israel.\n\n(2)\n\n   Just kidding.\n\nBe careful rj3s. When people start finding humour in the Holocaust\nthey often run the danger of exposing themselves for the hateful\nrefuse that they really are.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Serdar, I have been told that you are not real, your account is fake (which I  \nconfirmed by trying to E-mail you) and advised not to waste my time writing to  \n\"you\".  But, I get pleasure from watching you make a fool of yourself. \n\n\nSo you stand by the statement that all Armenians are barbarians.  OK, I see.   \nLets not even act as if there is a chance they are human.  See Serdar, when you  \njudge people because of their race this is called racism.  I tend to frown on  \nthis sort of thing.  Obviously you don't.  When you label an entire race the  \nway you do, it is easy to stop thinking of them as human beings, and this can  \nmake GENOCIDE possible.  But I guess (and this is where Serdar will fill the  \npage with quotes taken out of context) you know that, huh?\nDon't you find it weak that all of Serdars enemies are  \nFascist\/NAZI\/barbarian\/_________fill in the blank with any catch all bad term.\n\n\nPublic knowlege?  I was not aware of that.  NOW I see, the ARMENIANS decide to  \nkill the Israeli athletes in 1972 as PRACTICE.  I was confused, but thanks for  \nclearing that up.\n\nWow, you are on a roll with the accusations today Serdar, so how did the  \nArmenians steal from the Turkish children?  Was it their lunch money?  This is  \nvery cute how you inserted children in this fill in the blank accusation sheet  \nyou fill out every day.  It really touches my heart.  Oh and thank you for  \nletting me know that Kurds and Armenians hate each other.  I was not aware of  \nthis.  The only time I have ever talked about Kurds it was about the WONDERFUL  \ntreatment they were recieving in Turkey.  They must have a high incedence of  \ninsanity because there sure are a lot of them fighting against the  \nnon-oppresive Turkish government that has let their culture flower over the  \npast 70 years.\n\n\nThanks for the unbiased TURKISH MEDIA SOURCE.  I am sure the Milliyet is rated  \nnumber one for accuracy and truth.\n\n\nInnocent?  Is that what terrorists call their victims?  I have never heard of  \nterrorists calling their victims innocent.  \"Yes, folks in other news the IRA  \npublic relations department reported that it had killed 20 innocent victims in  \na car bombing...  \"  Nope Serdar, I don't think so.\n \nOops you almost forgot to fill in the \"Say something about Turks being killed  \nby Armenians here\" section of your note.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I have the following games for sale\/trade. Make an offer.\n\nHu-Cards:\nR-Type\nSidearms\nAlien Crush\nNeutopia\nTricky Kick\nNinja Spirit\nSomer Assault\n\nCD:\nLords of the Rising Sun\nSherlock Holmes\n\n\n\n-- \nbrian\noplinger@ra.crd.ge.com","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I have an 8000S I'd like to sell.  Now that I'm finished with my TAing,\nI don't have nearly as many appoints to miss, and I'd like to put the\nmoney toward a laptop.\n\nAsking $200.  I bought it last Christmas.  It's in great shape and\nincludes (as an added bonus!) a nice, padded leather carrying case.\n--\nBlair MacIntyre --- bm@cs.columbia.edu --- CS Department, Columbia University","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Pennicillin if i have everything correct,  was a highly valuable\nMyco-toxin,  discovered during WW2.  It proved to have an amazing\nBacterio-cidal effect without human toxicity.   It's immediate\nadministration  showed immediate dramatic results  solving\nproblems  that previously were fatal.  Although initially\nenormously expensive to culture,  within 3 years,\nthe price had fallen at least two orders of magnitude,\nand within 10 years,  was  not much more expensive then\naspirin.  Penicillin was also usable for an amazingly wide\nclass of infections.\n\nCentoxin is a drug that is not passing FDA approval.  It promised\namazing results for Toxic shock, a rapidly fatal disease.\nIt consumed enormous amounts of funding  in testing and\ndevelopement,  However it works  less then 1 in 5 times\nof administration  and costs $2,000 per administration\nwith no promise of any reduction in manufacturing cost.\nThe drug thus costs $10,000 per useful case,  and is\nimplicated in a slight increase in mortality for some\npatients.\n\nI would not dare to compare the shuttle to Pennicillin,\nbut to centoxin.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Arab citizens have the all the same rights as Jews.  Arabs are\nexempt from military service, but that is about it.  Arabs have a\nfull voice in Israeli politics, to the degree that they choose to\nget involved.  They may vote.  There are Arabs in the Cabinet.  ","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nWere.\n\nIn urban areas.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"i heard a news report indicating research showing improved         \nhearing in people taking vitamin A. the research showed that new    \ngrowth replaced damaged \"hairlike\" nerves. has anyone heard about\nthis? \n\nthanks,\nclaude","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"THE WHITE HOUSE\n\n                    Office of the Press Secretary\n\n______________________________________________________________\nFor Immediate Release                             April 20, 1993     \n\n                       REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT\n           DURING PRESENTATION OF TEACHER OF THE YEAR AWARD\n\t     \n                           The Rose Garden \n\n\n1:25 P.M. EDT\n\n\n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  Good afternoon.  Please be seated.  I \nwant to say, first, how delighted I am to be here with Secretary \nRiley and with Senator Graham.  The three of us served as governors \ntogether during the 1980s when we worked constantly on strategies to \nimprove our schools, when we led often difficult and long efforts to \nupgrade the standards in American education and to improve the \nquality of instruction our children were receiving.  \n\t     \n\t     There were no two governors whom I admired more during \nthat period than the two who now stand on this stage with the Teacher \nof the Year.  And I think both of them would join me in saying that, \nafter all the testimony has been heard and all the bills have been \npassed and the funds have been raised and allocated, it all comes \ndown to what happens between the teacher and the students in the \nclassroom.\n\t     \n\t     That's why today's ceremony honoring the National \nTeacher of the Year is so important.  Tracey Leon Bailey is one \nrecognition all across our country for highly advanced and innovative \nscience programs.  He's developed and introduced into Florida's \nclassrooms cutting-edge programs in molecular biology and DNA \nfingerprinting -- subjects usually taught only in college and, I \nmight add, probably only dimly understood here in the Nation's \nCapital.  (Laughter.)\n\t     \n\t     Within three years of being hired by a satellite high \nschool, Mr. Bailey's institution had one of the strongest science \nprograms in the entire state of Florida, and it won numerous national \nand international awards.  These advanced programs aren't just for a \nfavored few.  Tracey Bailey has inspired all kinds of students, \nincluding those previously known as low-achieving or at-risk to reach \nfor excellence and to attain it.  This is what our students need and \nwhat our country needs. \n\t     \n\t     Today, we know that a good future with high wages and \nrich opportunities rests on the foundation of quality education for a \nlifetime.  The basics aren't enough anymore.  All our kids need \ncompetence in math and science and advanced problem-solving.  That's \nwhy Tracey Bailey's accomplishments are so important and why I am so \npleased and proud to participate in recognizing and honoring these \naccomplishments. \n\t     \n\t     Tracey, you represent the best in the United States.  \nI'm glad to recognize you today and to formally present you with this \nApple Award as the Teacher of the Year for 1993.  (Applause.)  \n\t     \n\t     MR. BAILEY:  Thank you, Mr. President.  It is indeed a \ngreat honor and a tremendous responsibility to represent the nation's \n2.5 million teachers.  And we appreciate the support that you have \nshown for education, and we're looking forward to working with you to \nhelp redesign and improve our nation's schools.  \n\t     \n\t     We know that the quality of our children's education \nwill directly impact the future of our economic and social landscape \nin the years to come.  And we thank you so much for your continued \nsupport and commitment to our children's education.  Thank you again.  \n(Applause.)\n\n\t     THE PRESIDENT:  In closing, I would like to also welcome \nthe education leaders in Florida who are here, those representing the \nnational education groups who have also come.  I'd like to recognize \nTracey's congressman, Representative Jim Bacchus in the back, himself \na great advocate of education.  And I'd like to remind all of you \nthat the ultimate purpose of the National Teacher of the Year Award \nis to find a way for the rest of us to express our appreciation to \npeople all across this country who give their lives to our children, \nall of the teachers of this country who get up every day and do their \nbest to try to advance the cause of learning for all the children of \nAmerica.  They are, in so many ways, our most important public \nservants.\n\t     \n\t     Thank you very much.  (Applause.)","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nSells for $570 here (Southern California) almost everywhere.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I don't want to attack anyone's personal opinions and thus have not\nincluded any articles - but it seems to me incredibly ridiculous\nand pompous for someone to sit back with the benefit of hindsight\nand point fingers at Clinton, Reno, the FBI, or whomever.\n\nFirst of all, it is a knee-jerk judgement.  The facts are quite\nmuddled at this point and will likely be for quite a while.\n\nSecondly, things do not improve by pointing blame and accusatory\nfingers.  Pointing fingers is a destructive action.  If everyone\nsat around pointing fingers all the time, nothing would get done\nand nothing would ever get any better.  And despite the tragedy,\nwe can learn something from this - if it is approached in a \nconstructive manner.  Doesn't it seem that working together is\nmore productive than working against one another?\n\nThirdly, it seems incredibly hypocritical to place blame given\nthe benefit of hindsight - something that those who made the\ndecisions did not have the benefit of.  Why not give them the courtesy\nof acknowledging that they did the best they could with the\ndata they had - in a very, very difficult situation.  Some\nresponses have gone so far to suggest that the actions were done\nwithout regard for the lives of the people in the compound - give\nme a break.\n\nBe part of the solution - not the problem.\n\nAnd that's MY opinion -","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nYou haven't been facing major league pitching.      \n\n  Maybe more... you have to be good at the plate, and most\n\nSTATS did a little study in the 1993 Scoreboard book entitled \"Can\nyou hit sacrifice flies on purpose?\"  A summary of the findings:\n\nOver the 5 year period, sac-fly type fly balls were produced 17.6\npercent of the time in situations where a sac fly was useful, and \n17.7 percent of the time when a sac fly wasn't useful.\n\nThey looked at the leaders in sac flies, and found that the leaders\nin sac flies - in other words, the guys you would expect to be good\nat it it - hit sac fly type fly balls only 3% more often when they\nneeded to - a difference way too small to be the result of a skill.\nEssentially, the players who hit a lot of sac flies seem to do\nso because they hit hit sac fly type flies often, with and without\na runner on third.\n\nSTATS concludes \"So it appears conclusive that hitters cannot hit\nsacrifice flies on purpose - even if they practice in the bATTING\ncage.\"","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nI prefer InfoSelect myself, but it is a strange kind of PIM. \n\n\n\nWell, a few things might help you like the 3.1 File Manager better.\n\n1) To get more than one window simply double click on a drive icon.\n   That it only gives you one window to work with is a fallacy. You\n   can drag files between windows, to any icon on the tree on the left\n   side of the window, and to any drive icon. This beats your \"left\n   and right window\" as you can have as many open as you wish instead \n   of just two.\n\n2) You can launch any app from within File Manager by double clicking\n   on the executable's icon.\n\n3) You can launch any application and open a document file by double\n   clicking on the document file's icon, provided you have\n   associations set correctly. This is easily done with the menus. The\n   \"browse\" capability adds a lot of functionality to 3.1. So if you\n   name all your text files with .txt and point all GIF, TIFF, etc.\n   files towards Paintshop or WinGIF, this takes care of your\n   requirement for \"text reading and graphics viewing\".\n\nI know someone who prefers using File Manager as his shell. Setting up\nall the associations you need is the way to do it.\n\nIf Directory Opus is half as good as File Manager then it must be\npretty good indeed! File Manager just needs you to understand how\nsome things are done.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n-- ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n   Uh oh, Michael; you typed \"hell\" and capitalized it to boot! Now\nPeter Nyikos will explain that you're not a real Christian!\n\n\n\n\nBZZT! Sorry Michael--the Nyikos Inquisition pointed out that I was\nhell-bound after one mildly scurrilous pun on \"revealing oneself.\"\nAdmitting to masturbation--well, I'm just shocked!","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nUm, I think you and the Bible are the ones inside the wall.  There's a\nreally wonderful world out here.  You really should peek out at it sometime.\n\nThe silly things you keep saying only reinforce the fact that we *are*\non opposite sides of a very high wall.  I see how incredibly beautiful\nthings are on my side, and I only keep telling you about it because\nI'd like to you come join me here.\n\n\nI never said that.  I said that I would PREFER to cease to exist than\nto be tossed into any god's version of Hell.\n\n\nYou say to me, \"Brian, come up here and take a look from this vantage\npoint.\"  But you're in a valley, looking at a crayon drawing of a sun\nand a tree, and I can't for the life of me figure out why you're so\nimmersed in it.  *I*'m the one trying to get you to come up HERE,\ndon't you see?\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"application  \ncomp  \nIndeed,  \nof  \nand \n\nWell, I thought that highmem.sys would do that too. I just took out emm386  \nof my config.sys, and I'm still loading my other drivers high (mouse, vga  \nshadow bios, dos-key etc.) I haven't checked mem\/c, but I believe I have  \nmanaged to load them high (ie between 640KB and 1024KB).\n\nAlso, ever since I took out emm386, windows loads slightly faster, I get  \nabout 3 extra meg of freemem in windows (I'm running 386 enhanced with 4  \nMeg RAM, 7 Meg swap) and I got rid of my ctrl-alt del reboot problem  \n(before, the computer would not reboot using ctrl-alt-del after exiting  \nwindows). \n\nI would really like to keep emm386 out of my config.sys. Anybody else have  \ninfo on this???","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nThese are perfectly valid points and I agree. I'm glad we (MS) are starting\nto remedy this situation with DOS 6 (and it will get better in future \nreleases). You do need to be aware of some history, however. In the \nmid-late 80's, MS's point of view was that OS\/2 was going to take over\nthe world and DOS would be phased out. As such, resources for DOS\n(and windows, for that matter) development were mostly redirected to OS\/2.\nThe theory was to keep just enough resources on DOS to support people\nuntil they started using OS\/2, so utilities and such for DOS fell by the \nwayside.\n\nThen Windows 3.0 hit the market, OS\/2 flopped (1.x, at least...2.x seems to\nbe doing a little better, but its future is still cloudy), and people either\nstayed with their DOS (3.x and 4.x) apps or moved to Windows. About that\npoint in time, MS made its decision to drop OS\/2 for DOS\/Windows in the\nshort term and Windows\/NT in the long term. DOS 5, much improved over DOS\n3.x and 4.x, was the first result of MS's refocussing on DOS and Windows.\nVersion 6 takes things somewhat further and I suspect future versions will\noffer even more in terms of \"real\" OS features (I work on NT and have no\nreal clue about what my coworkers over in DOSland are doing, but I do\nknow that there are a heck of a lot more of them than there were a\nfew years ago).\n\n\t...Dave","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nI don't know what you mean by 'edged', but surely there are two other\npossibilities for an isotropic distribution: near interstellar (up to\n~100 pc, i.e. within the disc), or the Galaxy's corona?\n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nBack in high school I used to work for a detailing company, and one of the\nservices we offered was an engine cleaning (remove all that oil BEFORE you\nsell the car...  ;-}). Unfortunately, we did not have a high pressure\nwasher so we would use one several miles from the shop. On more than one\noccasion after washing the engine, it would not start as water would have\ngotten under the distributor (I would put a plastic bag around it to try and\nminimize this), around the spark plug wires, etc and it would be nearly\nIMPOSSIBLE to try and wipe all these areas down with a dry rag. The usual\nsolution was to carry a can of WD-40, and when the car wouldn't start to spray\nall the likely areas and it would then start on the very first time.\n\nIt may be a myth, but it certainly kept me from being stranded at a car wash...\n\n--","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nIt is 'Serdar', 'kocaoglan'.\n\n\nJust love it. Well, it could be your head wasn't screwed on just right.\nIf that does ever happen, look out the window and see if there is a \nnon-fascist x-Soviet Armenian Government in the East.\n\n \"In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists a single Turkish soul.\n  It is in our power to tear away the veil of illusion that some of us\n  create for ourselves. It certainly is possible to severe the artificial\n  life-support system of an imagined 'ethnic purity' that some of us\n  falsely trust as the only structure that can support their heart beats \n  in this alien land.\"\n            (Sahak Melkonian - 1920 - \"Preserving the Armenian purity\") \n\n\nYou sound like ASALA\/SDPA\/ARF idiots\/clowns\/crooks. If you prefer to \nimagine that U.S. Ambassador Bristol and Armenian\/Jewish scholars were \ntrying to mislead 'Arromdians', be my guest. A typical Armenian clown.\n\nSource: \"U.S. Library of Congress\": 'Bristol Papers' - General \n         Correspondence Container #34.\n\n \"While the Dashnaks [x-Soviet Armenian Government] were in power they \n  did everything in the world to keep the pot boiling by attacking Kurds, \n  Turks and Tartars; by committing outrages against the Moslems; by \n  massacring the Moslems; and robbing and destroying their homes. During \n  the last two years the Armenians in Russian Caucasus have shown no \n  ability to govern themselves and especially no ability to govern or \n  handle other races under their power.\"\n\nSource: General Bronsart wrote as follows in an article in the July 24, \n        1921 issue of the newspaper \"Deutsche Allgemeine Zeitung:\"\n\n\"Since all the Moslems capable of bearing arms were in the Turkish Army,\n it was easy to organize a terrible massacre by the Armenians against\n defenseless people, because the Armenians were not only attacking the\n sides and rear of the Eastern Army paralyzed at the front by the \n Russians, but were attacking the Moslem folk in the region as well.\"\n\nSource: John Dewey, \"The Turkish Tragedy\", The New Republic, Volume 40, \n        November 12, 1928, pp. 268-269.\n\n \"They [Armenians] boasted of having raised an army of one hundred \n  and fifty thousand men to fight a civil war, and that they burned at \n  least a hundred Turkish villages and exterminated their population.\"\n\n\n\nWhat a clown...Let us ask Armenian scholars - shall we? \n\nSource: Hovannisian, Richard G.: Armenia on the Road to Independence, 1918.\nUniversity of California Press (Berkeley and Los Angeles), 1967, p. 13.\n\n\"The addition of the Kars and Batum oblasts to the Empire increased the\n area of Transcaucasia to over 130,000 square miles. The estimated population\n of the entire region in 1886 was 4,700,000, of whom 940,000 (20 percent) were\n Armenian, 1,200,000 (25 percent) Georgian, and 2,220,000 (45 percent) Moslem.\n Of the latter group, 1,140,000 were Tatars. Paradoxically, barely one-third\n of Transcaucasia's Armenians lived in the Erevan guberniia, where the \n Christians constituted a majority in only three of the seven uezds. Erevan\n uezd, the administrative center of the province, had only 44,000 Armenians\n as compared to 68,000 Moslems. By the time of the Russian Census of 1897,\n however, the Armenians had established a scant majority, 53 percent, in the\n guberniia; it had risen by 1916 to 60 percent, or 670,000 of the 1,120,000\n inhabitants. This impressive change in the province's ethnic character \n notwithstanding, there was, on the eve of the creation of the Armenian \n Republic, a solid block of 370,000 Tartars who continued to dominate the \n southern districts, from the outskirts of Ereven to the border of Persia.\" \n (See also Map 1. Historic Armenia and Map 4. Administrative subdivisions of \n Transcaucasia).\n\nIn 1920, '0' percent Turk. \n\n\"We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as \n ways of escape for the Tartars and then proceeded in the work \n of extermination. Our troops surrounded village after village. \n Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked the huts \n into heaps of stone and dust and when the villages became untenable \n and inhabitants fled from them into fields, bullets and bayonets \n completed the work. Some of the Tartars escaped of course. They \n found refuge in the mountains or succeeded in crossing the border \n into Turkey. The rest were killed. And so it is that the whole \n length of the borderland of Russian Armenia from Nakhitchevan to \n Akhalkalaki from the hot plains of Ararat to the cold mountain \n plateau of the North were dotted with mute mournful ruins of \n Tartar villages. They are quiet now, those villages, except for \n howling of wolves and jackals that visit them to paw over the \n scattered bones of the dead.\" \n\n                             Ohanus Appressian\n                            \"Men Are Like That\"\n                                   p. 202.\n\n\nJust say so.\n\nSource: \"Men Are Like That\" by Leonard Ramsden Hartill. The Bobbs-Merrill\nCompany, Indianapolis (1926). (305 pages). \n(Memoirs of an Armenian officer who participated in the genocide of 2.5 \n million Muslim people)\n\n\"Foreword:\"\n\n\"For example, we were camped one night in a half-ruined Tartar mosque, \n the most habitable building of a destroyed village, near the border \n of Persia and Russian Armenia. During the course of evening I asked \n Ohanus if he could tell me anything of the history of the village and \n the cause of its destruction. In his matter of fact way he replied, Yes, \n I assisted in its sack and destruction, and witnessed the slaying of \n those whose bones you saw to-day scattered among its ruins.\" \n\np. 202 (first and second paragraphs).\n\n\"We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as \n ways of escape for the Tartars and then proceeded in the work \n of extermination. Our troops surrounded village after village. \n Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked the huts \n into heaps of stone and dust and when the villages became untenable \n and inhabitants fled from them into fields, bullets and bayonets \n completed the work. Some of the Tartars escaped of course. They \n found refuge in the mountains or succeeded in crossing the border \n into Turkey. The rest were killed. And so it is that the whole \n length of the borderland of Russian Armenia from Nakhitchevan to \n Akhalkalaki from the hot plains of Ararat to the cold mountain \n plateau of the North were dotted with mute mournful ruins of \n Tartar villages. They are quiet now, those villages, except for \n howling of wolves and jackals that visit them to paw over the \n scattered bones of the dead.\" \n\np. 15 (second paragraph).\n\n\"The Tartars were, for the most part, poor. Some of them lived in villages \n and cultivated small farms; many of them continued in the way of life of \n their nomadic forefathers. They drove their flocks and herds from valley \n to valley, from plain to mountain, and from mountain to plain, following \n the pasturage as it changed with the seasons. They ranged from the salt \n desert shores of the Caspian Sea far into the mighty Caucasus Mountains. \n Even the village Tartars are a primitive people, only semicivilized.\"\n\n\"I can see now that we Armenians frankly despised the Tartars, and, while \n holding a disproportionate share of the wealth of the country, regarded and\n treated them as inferiors. The fact that the Russians looked down upon all\n Armenians in much the same way as Armenians regarded Tartars, far from proving\n a bond between ourselves and our racially different neighbors, intensified\n an attitude and conduct on our part that served only to exacerbate hostility.\"\n\np. 20 (second paragraph).\n\n\"Our men armed themselves, gathered together and advanced on the Tartar\n section of the village. There were no lights in the houses and the doors\n were barred, for the Tartars suspected what as to happen and were in great \n fear. Our men hammered on the doors, but got no response; whereupon they\n smashed in the doors and began a carnage that continued until the last\n Tartar was slain. Throughout the hideous night, I cowered at home in terror,\n unable to shut my ears to the piercing screams of the helpless victims and\n the loud shouts of our men. By morning the work was finished.\"\n\np. 109 (second paragraph).\n\n\"As things were, the members of the Dashnack Party were without administrative\n experience; consequently the government they instituted quickly proved itself\n incompetent to rule by legitimate means.\n\n The members of the government had been revolutionists working in secret and\n outside the law. When they became a legally instituted, recognized governing\n body with the destiny of Armenia in their hands, they proved incompetent to \n do better than resume the terrorist tactics that had characterized their \n fight against the Russian and Turkish Governments in their outlaw days.\n\n The outstanding feature of their rule, now that they were in power, was,\n as in the old days, trial and execution without hearing. A man evoking\n the displeasure of the government or of some official would be tried and\n condemned without arrest or preference of charges against him. The method \n of execution was for a government 'mauserist' to walk up behind the\n condemned man in his home or on the street, place a pistol to the back\n of his head and blow out his brains. This simple way of getting rid of\n those who were undesirable in the view of the government and soon became\n a common way of paying debts.\"\n\np. 203 (first paragraph).\n\n\"A soldier succeeded in driving his bayonet through the Tartar. I saw the\n point of the weapon emerge through his back. ...Another soldier seized a rock \n and pounded the Tartar's head with it... The Armenian who had bayoneted him\n sprang to his feet, wrested the weapon from the Tartar's body, and, raising\n it to his lips, licked it clean of blood, exclaiming in Russian, 'Slodkey!\n Slodkey!' (Sweet.)\"\n\np. 203 (second paragraph).\n\n\"One evening I passed through what had been a Tartar village. Among the \n ruins a fire was burning. I went to the fire and saw seated about\n it a group of soldiers. Among them were two Tartar girls, mere children.\n The girls were crouched on the ground, crying softly with suppressed\n sobs. Lying scattered over the ground were broken household utensils and\n other furnishings of Tartar peasant homes. There were also bodies of the\n dead.\"\n\np. 204 (first paragraph).\n\n\"I was soon asleep. In the night I was awakened by the persistent crying of\n a child. I arose and went to investigate. A full moon enabled me to make\n my way about and revealed to me all the wreck and litter of the tragedy\n that had been enacted. Guided by the child's crying, I entered the yard of\n a house, which I judged from its appearance must have been the home of a\n Turkish family. There in a corner of the yard I found a women dead. Her\n throat had been cut. Lying on her breast was a small child, a girl about a\n year old.\"\n\np. 118.\n\n\"Slowly the train of oxcarts lumbered along through the snow, the cart\n jolting and the loads swaying. Boys ran along the line of oxen, encouraging\n them with shrill Tartar cries, and belaboring the beasts with sticks. In the\n carts, the women, veiled as is the Tartar way, held children in their arms.\n Wrapped in blankets and huddled among the goods that burdened the carts they\n sought protection from the wind and cold. A few old men plodded along on foot.\n\n Across the road through the ravine a barrier had been thrown. The leading\n oxteam reached this barrier and halted. The gunmen and other ruffians \n concealed among the rocks opened fire. Women and children leaped and\n scrambled from the carts, screamed, ran and sought vainly for safety.\n\n This massacre was not complete. The Armenian soldiers in the near-by \n barracks, hearing the firing and the turmoil, hurried to the scene....\n That same day the abandoned Tartar quarter of Alexandropol was looted\n and completely destroyed.\"\n\np. 192.\n\n\"Great swarms of peasants who had come out of their hiding-places on the\n retreat of the Turks followed our army as it advanced.... They entered\n into the city with the army and immediately began plundering the stores\n that had been left by the Turks.\"\n\np. 193.\n\n\"Terrible vengeance was taken upon Tartars, Kurds and Turks. Their villages\n were destroyed and they themselves were slain or driven out of the country.\"\n\np. 195.\n\n\"The fanatical Dashnacks hated the Turks above all others and then in order\n of diminishing intensity: Tartars, Kurds and Russians.\" \n\np. 218. (First and second paragraphs)\n\n\"Russian troops did terrible things in the Turkish villages...We Armenians \n did not spare the Tartars....If persisted in, the slaughtering of prisoners, \n the looting, and the rape and massacre of the helpless become commonplace \n actions expected and accepted as a matter of course.\n\n I have been on the scenes of massacres where the dead lay on the ground,\n in numbers, like the fallen leaves in a forest. They had been as helpless\n and as defenseless as sheep. They had not died as soldiers die in the\n heat of battle, fired with ardor and courage, with weapons in their hands,\n and exchanging blow for blow. They had died as the helpless must, with\n their hearts and brains bursting with horror worse than death itself.\"\n\np. 133 (first paragraph)\n\n\"In this movement we took with us three thousand Turkish soldiers who\n had been captured by the Russians and left on our hands when the Russians\n abandoned the struggle. During our retreat to Karaklis two thousand of\n these poor devils were cruelly put to death. I was sickened by the\n brutality displayed, but could not make any effective protest. Some,\n mercifully, were shot. Many of them were burned to death. The method\n employed was to put a quantity of straw into a hut, and then after\n crowding the hut with Turks, set fire to the straw.\"\n\np. 19 (first paragraph)\n\n\"The Tartar section of the town no longer existed, except as a pile of\n ruins. It had been destroyed and its inhabitants slaughtered. The same \n fate befell the Tartar section of Khankandi.\"\n\np. 22 (second paragraph)\n\n\"Many of our men had served in the Russian Army, and were trained soldiers.\n We Armenians were rich and possessed arms. Tartars had never received\n military training. They were poor, and possessed few arms beyond knives.\n ...Shortly after the killing of the Tartars in our village, the revolution\n in Russia was suppressed.\"\n\np. 97 (third paragraph)\n\n\"Within a few years, following the beginning of the movement, an invisible\n government of Armenians by Armenians had been established in Turkish \n Armenia in armed opposition to the Turkish Government. This secret \n government had its own courts and laws and an army of assassins called\n 'Mauserists' (professional killers) to enforce its decrees.\"\n\np. 98 (first paragraph)\n\n\"The Dashnacks were in continual open rebellion against the Turkish \n Government.\"\n\np. 98 (third paragraph)\n\n\"...the Dashnacks engineered a general revolt of Armenians in Turkish\n Armenia under the mistaken belief that European nations would intervene\n and secure independence for Turkish Armenia.\"\n\np. 99 (second paragraph)\n\n\"The Dashnacks were fanatics.\"           \n\np. 99 (third paragraph)\n\n\"The Dashnacks took advantage of this situation and extended their \n revolutionary activities into the Russian province. They instituted \n a campaign of terrorism and employed threats and force in securing\n contributions to the party funds from rich Armenians. A wealthy\n man would be assessed a stipulated sum. Refusal to pay brought upon\n him a sentence of death. \n\n Every member of the party was pledged to carry out orders without \n question. If a man were to be assassinated, lots might be drawn to\n select an executioner or the job might be assigned to one of the\n 'mauserists' of the party.\"\n\np. 130 (first paragraph)\n\n\"...in moments of victory against Turks and Kurds or Tartars, they \n [Armenians] have been remorseless in seeking vengeance.\"\n\np. 130 (third paragraph)\n\n\"The city was a scene of confusion and terror. During the early days of \n the war, when the Russian troops invaded Turkey, large numbers of the \n Turkish population abandoned their homes and fled before the Russian \n advance.\"\n\np. 159 (second paragraph)\n\n\"I made a cannon, a huge gun to lift which required four men. I made balls\n for it. With my cannon the Armenians could knock down any of the Tartar\n houses and so they were able to drive the Tartars out.\"\n\np. 181 (first paragraph)\n\n\"The Tartar villages were in ruins.\"\n\np. 189 (third paragraph)\n\n\"The dead Tartar lay with his head in a pool of mud and blood, his \n beard still setaceous and now crimsoned.\"\n\nNeed I go on?\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nIs it not also an abomination that somebody would spend money on \"space \nadvertising\" when those children are starving? Perhaps some redistribution\nof wealth would help them ...","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"It seems I'm in the fortunate position to desire what many people want to sell-\na miniature color tv.  I require color and input for cable or vcr.  I would \nprefer a 5inch diagonal and a tube television (not lcd).\n\nGet paid the first, make an offer by email.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nLarry -\n\nThanks for the reply, but this isn't quite the same thing.  Like I said before, \nI can understand why non-Christians would be denied *access* to holy \nceremonies, but the ceremony itself (communion) was not secret.  In fact, all \nfour gospels record the first \"breaking of the bread\" in some detail.  \nCommunion was a fellowship meal, and it was (and still should be, in my \nopinion) inappropriate to invite those who did not share in the fellowship of \nthe Body of Christ.  The fact that unbelievers, denied access to these communal \nmeals, began to imagine all sorts of secret and debased rituals during \ncommunion does not by any means imply that the early Christians were in fact \nhiding shameful things from the general public.  In fact, I think if you read \nsome of the early church fathers, you will find that they were not at all \nbashful about describing what went on during communion.  That's why it seems \nfunny to me when Mormons, who claim to be the only true restoration of 1st \ncentury Christianity, insist on hiding certain rituals on the grounds that they \nare \"too sacred.\"\n\n- Mark","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"The following is a juxtaposition of part of an ancient text known as\n\"de Sacramentis\", usually attributed to St. Ambrose of Milan, and the\ncanon of the traditional Catholic Mass of the Roman rite.  The\nconclusion from this comparison is that the central part of the\ntraditional Roman canon was already fairly well in place by sometime\nin the late 4th century.\n\nTaken from \"The Mass of the Western Rites\", by the Right Reverend Dom\nFernand Cabrol, Abbot of Farnborough, 1934, without permission.\nExcerpted from Chapter VI: THE MASS AT ROME, FROM THE FIFTH TO THE\nSEVENTH CENTURIES.  The paragraph at the end is from the book, not me.\n\nSorry about the long lines.\n\nJoe Buehler\n\n-----\n\nTEXT OF DE SACRAMENTIS          ROMAN CANON                     ROMAN CANON\n(about 400 AD)                  (1962 AD)                       (English translation)\n\n                                Te igitur ...                   (omitted here)\n                                Memento Domine ...\n                                Communicantes ...\n                                Hanc igitur oblationem ...\n\nFac nobis (inquit sacerdos),    Quam oblationem tu Deus, in     Do thou, O God, deign to\nhanc oblationem ascriptam,      omnibus, quaesumus,             bless what we offer, and\nratam, rationabilem,            benedictam, adscriptam,         make it approved,\nacceptabilem, quod figura       ratam, rationabilem,            effective, right, and\nest corporis et sanguinis       acceptabilemque facere          wholly pleasing in every\nJesu Christi.                   digneris: ut nobis corpus et    way, that it may become\n                                sanguis fiat dilectissimi       for our good, the Body\n                                Filii tui Domini nostri Jesu    and Blood of Thy dearly\n                                Christi.                        beloved Son, Jesus Christ\n                                                                our Lord.\n\nQui pridie quam pateretur,      Qui pridie quam pateretur,      Who, the day before He\nin sanctis manibus suis         accepit panem in sanctas ac     suffered, took bread into\naccepit panem, respexit in      venerabiles manus suas: et      His holy and venerable\ncaelum ad te, sancte Pater      elevatis oculis in ccelum,      hands, and having raised\nomnipotens, aeterne Deus,       ad Te Deum Patrem suum          His eyes to Heaven, unto\nGratias agens, benedixit,       omnipotentem, tibi gratias      Thee, O God, His Almighty\nfregit, fractum quae            agens, benedixit, fregit,       Father, giving thanks to\napostolis suis et discipulis    deditque discipulis suis        Thee, He blessed it, broke\nsuis tradidit dicens:           dicens: accipite et             it, and gave it to His\naccipite et edite ex hoc        manducate ex hoc omnes: hoc     disciples, saying: Take ye\nomnes: hoc est enim corpus      est enim corpus meum.           all and eat of this:\nmeum, quod pro multis                                           For this is my Body.\nconfringetur.\n\nSimiliter etiam calicem         Simili modo postquam            In like manner, when the\npostquam caenatum est,          caenatum est, accipiens et      supper was done, taking\npridie quam pateretur,          hunc praeclarum calicem in      also this goodly chalice\naccepit, respexit in            sanctas ac venerabiles manus    into His holy and\ncaelum ad te, sancte pater      suas item tibi gratias          venerable hands, again\nomnipotens, aeterne Deus,       agens, benedixit deditque       giving thanks to Thee,\ngratias agens, benedixit,       discipulis suis, dicens:        He blessed it, and gave it\napostolis suis et discipulis    accipite et bibite ex eo        to His disciples, saying:\nsuis tradidit, dicens:          omnes: Hic est enim calix       Take ye all, and drink of\naccipite et bibite ex hoc       sanguinis mei, novi et          this: For this is the\nomnes: hic est enim sanguis     aeterni testamenti:             Chalice of my Blood of the\nmeus.                           mysterium fidei; qui pro        new and eternal covenant;\n                                vobis et pro multis             the mystery of faith,\n                                effundetur in remissionem       which shall be shed for\n                                peccatorum.                     you and for many unto the\n                                                                forgiveness of sins.\n\n                                Haec quotiescumque feceritis    As often as you shall do\n                                in mei memoriam facietis.       these things, in memory of\n                                                                Me shall you do them.\n\nErgo memores gloriosissimae     Unde et memores, Domine, nos    Mindful, therefore, O\nejus passionis et ab inferis    servi tui, sed et plebs tua     Lord, not only of the\nresurrectionis, in caelum       sancta, ejusdem Christi         blessed Passion of the\nascensionis, offerimus tibi     Filii tui Domini nostri, tam    same Christ, Thy Son, our\nhanc immaculatam hostiam,       beatae passionis necnon et      Lord, but also of His\nhunc panem sanctum et           ab inferis resurrectionis,      resurrection from the\ncalicem vitae aeternae;         sed et in caelos gloriosae      dead, and finally His\n                                ascensionis: offerimus          glorious ascension into\n                                praeclarae majestati tuae de    Heaven, we, Thy ministers,\n                                tuis donis ac datis, hostiam    as also Thy holy people,\n                                puram, hostiam sanctam,         offer unto Thy supreme\n                                hostiam immaculatam, Panem      majesty, of the gifts\n                                sanctum vitae aeternae, et      bestowed upon us, the\n                                Calicem salutis perpetuae.      pure Victim, the holy\n                                                                Victim, the all-perfect\n                                                                Victim: the holy Bread of\n                                                                life eternal and the\n                                                                Chalice of unending\n                                                                salvation.\n\net petimus et precamur, ut      Supra quae propitio ac          And this do Thou deign to\nhanc oblationem suscipias in    sereno vultu respicere          regard with gracious and\nsublimi altari tuo per manus    digneris: et accepta habere,    kindly attention and hold\nangelorum tuorum sicut          sicuti accepta, habere          acceptable, as Thou didst\nsuscipere dignatus es munera    dignatus es munera pueri tui    deign to accept the\npueri tui justi Abel et         justi Abel, et sacrificium      offerings of Abel, Thy\nsacrificium patriarchae         patriarchae nostri Abrahae,     just servant, and the\nnostri Abrahae et quod tibi     et quod tibi obtulit summus     sacrifice of Abraham our\nobtulit summus sacerdos         sacerdos tuus Melchisedech      patriarch, and that which\nMelchisedech.                   sanctum sacrificium,            Thy chief priest\n                                immaculatam hostiam.            Melchisedech offered unto\n                                                                Thee, a holy sacrifice and\n                                                                a spotless victim.\n\n                                Supplices te rogamus,           Most humbly we implore\n                                omnipotens Deus: jube haec      Thee, almighty God, bid\n                                perferri per manus sancti       these offerings to be\n                                Angeli tui in sublime altare    brought by the hands of\n                                tuum in conspectu divinae       Thy holy angel unto Thy\n                                majestatis tuae: etc.           altar above; before the\n                                                                face of Thy Divine\n                                                                Majesty; etc.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n(Sorry about double posting, but I forgot something.)\n\n\"make, use or sell\" in this context have non-standard meanings:\n\n\"Make\" means making an encrypted message.  \"Use\" may mean using PGP, or\nusing an encrypted message.  \"Sell\" would probably mean selling an\nencrypted message.  It is the message created by a \"patented\" process\nincorporated in PGP, which infringes.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nThis would be dumb move of the nineties...Lindros is big and strong...\nbut why give him a ball and chain on one leg and an anchor on the\nother to drag along.\n\n\nNot if Pocklington gets there first! (-...actually, if Pocklington\ndoesn't get a better deal, he would probably go to Hamilton...taking\nthe team out of Canada would get the whole country mad at him...\ntaking the team to Hamilton wouldn't get anybody mad at him that \nisn't mad at him already...and would make him a lot of friends\nin Southern Ontario...so many that the whining of the stupid politicians in\nEdmonton and the fickle spoiled fans wouldn't be noticed at all.\nEdmonton would wallow in anonymnity.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Doug Holland claims Tom Clancy has provided the recipe for nuclear bombs.\nClancy himself says he has omitted certain crucial steps. Further, how do we\nknow Clancy knows, rather than repeating what he's read or been told in the\nunclassified domain?\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"In <1993Apr21.175443.5338@dct.ac.uk> mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (John Bell) dribbles\nin his nappies and manages to splutter:\n\n\tYou know, John, if you had kept the follow-up to line here on talk\npolitics guns, we might have taken you a bit more seriously.  It would have\nat least implied that you had some backbone, perhaps a modicum of willingness\nto present your views and support them.  I guess we all know better now.\n\n\n\tReally?  That's interesting, as I was always of the opinion that\npeople dumb enough to keep a monarchy around and support them with tax\nfunds when said monarchy is merely a figurehead deserve all that\nthey get.  Dunkirk, for example.  What?  That has nothing to do with it?\nThen enjoy your helping of foot.\n\n\n\tAnd they killed a few people of their own, including one child\nat last report.  So what?  Being a federal agent is not license to kill.\nThen there's CNN indicating that the ATF\/FBI actually *DID* start the\nfires which would mean feds killed just under 100 people.  If you're\nso hot to assign blame, make sure you don't overlook the obvious.\n\n\n\tMontgomery isn't much of a hero here, either.  Amazing how\ndifferent things look on the other side of the pond, isn't it?  Not\nthat what you think makes much of a difference in the USA, though, and\nfor good reason.  When you can vote I'll take your rhetoric a bit more\nseriously.  Right now, you're merely a waste of trans-atlantic bandwidth.\n\n\n\tProof positive that ignorance really is bliss.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nNot exactly correct, but nice try.  The Catholic doctrine of infallibility\nrefers to freedom from error in teaching of the universal Church in \nmatters of faith or MORALS.  It is this teaching which is taken as \ndoctrine. \n\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Oh, yea, and Chris Bosio pitched a NO-HITTER.  One over the minimum, two\nbases on ball in the first inning, one runner left, 95 pitches.  I listened\nto the game on radio and listening to Dave Niehaus call the game was a\nreal treat (as long as they keep Ron Fairly quite, I doubt if anyone is\nbetter than Niehaus -- but that Fairly guy is really annoying me).\n\nBut, I guess if Clemens or Viola had been pitching, it would have \nbeen a different story :-)\n\nTwo shutouts in two nights against the hottest, best hitting team in\nMajor League baseball ....  Pretty impressive in any league.\n\nMan, if Johnson, Bosio and Hanson keep going the Mariners could be a \nreally interesting team to follow this year.  Also, John Cummings (rookie)\nhas had three solid outings with no support.  If Fleming comes back \nthis may be the best starting staff in the American League this year\n(relief is another story, though - grimace).\n\nToo cool.  The first no-hitter that I have been able to follow from \nstart to end.  And again, I think Niehaus will win some kind of award\nfor the way he called the game.  The guy is truly a joy to listen to --\nhe deserves a pennant race ...","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Hi!\n\nI need a Windows 3.1 driver for the Matrox PG-1281 CV\nSVGA card. \nAt the moment Windows runs only in the 640x480 mode.\nIf you have a driver for this card, please send it \nwith the OEMSETUP.INF to \n\nbockamp@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE\n\nThanks!\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
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{"text":"I hope someone can help me with the following problem - I'm sure there\nmust be a known solution.\n\nGiven a rectangle defined by\n\n-X <= x <= X  and -Y <= y <= Y  where X and Y are constant\n\nand a parallelogram defined by\n\n-C1 <= a*x + b*y <= C1  and -C2 <= c*x + d*y <= C2\n\nwhere C1, C2, a, b, c, d are constants and b\/a != d\/c (i.e. not\nparallel lines)                                ^^\n                                          not equal to\n\nwhat is the area of their intersection?\n\n   What I'm after is some general algorithm suitable for ALL rectangles\nand parallelograms that can be described by the above equations.  At the \nmoment it looks like I'm going to have to look at all possible cases \nand examine each seperately e.g.\n\n1) rectangle encloses parallelogram. \n\n2) parallelogram encloses rectangle.\n\n3) two corners of parallelogram inside rectangle\n\n                          ^\n                         \/ \\\n                        \/   \\\n                       \/     \\\n           Y -------------------------------  Y\n             |       \/         \\           |\n             |       \\          \\          |\n             |        \\     .    \\         |       . origin\n             |         \\          \\        |\n             |          \\         \/        |\n          -Y ------------------------------- -Y\n            -X            \\     \/           X\n                           \\   \/\n                            \\ \/\n                             \"\n\n4) two corners of parallelogram outside rectangle\n\n   I hope someone can help.\n\nMany thanks in advance,\n\nDave Nettleton.\n\ne-mail:  D.J.Nettleton@durham.ac.uk","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\tIf the Leaf's play like they did in game one they're going to need\nthese!  Watching that game _really_ hurt!\n\n\n\n\t\t\t\t\tCheers!\n\t\t\t\t\t\ti.\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nDid you watch the games????\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"To: All\n\nGVC Technologies v.32 9600bps modem\n\n9600\/4800\/2400\/1200\/300 bps operation with Automatic Speed\nSelection.\nCCITT v.32\/v.22bis\/v.22\/v.21 full-duplex operation.\nAsynchronous operation.\nAuto-answer & auto-dial: automatically switch between data and\nvoice transmission.\nSupports COM port 1-4, and IRQ 2-5\nAnalog\/digital\/remote digital loopback test modes.\nCommunication by Crosstalk software and manual included.\nModem manual & warranty registration card included.\n(Optional CCITT v.42bis\/v.42\/MNP 2-5 module, providing error\ncorrection and data compression to increase throughput up to\n38,400 bps, available directly from the manufacturer.)\nMint condition.  $125.\nDO NOT REPLY TO: dino.fiabane@pics.com.  Your mail will bounce if\nit is sent to that address.  Instead, please reply only via\nprivate E-Mail to:  pics!dino.fiabane@twwells.com\n(Since my home BBS can only handle personal messages through\nE-Mail for the time being, any further replies from me to you\nwill also arrive via E-Mail instead of by way of a regular\nnewsgroup.)\nDino Fiabane, 150 Weston Drive, Cherry Hill, NJ  08003-2132\nphone (609) 424-3836\n\n * SLMR 2.1a * reply to: pics!dino.fiabane@twwells.com  via E-Mail\n                                                                                           ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nNo.  Zeno's paradox is resolved by showing that integration or an infinite\nseries of decreasing terms can sum to a finite result.\n\n\nWell, suppose a probe emitting radiation at a constant frequency was\nsent towards a black hole.  As it got closer to the event horizon, the\nred shift would keep increasing.  The period would get longer and longer,\nbut it would never stop.  An observer would not observe the probe actually\nreaching the event horizon.  The detected energy from the probe would keep\ndecreasing, but it wouldn't vanish.  Exp(-t) never quite reaches zero.\n\nI guess the above probably doesn't make things any more clear, but hopefully\nyou will get the general idea maybe.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I have written a server program which makes socket connections to many nodes\nand collects data from that nodes periodically. I need to display this data on\nmy X Application. I tried\nto invoke this server using XtAddAppTimeout which works ok. But the\nproblem here is some time there is delay in collecting data. So I doesn't\nreturns to EventLoop during that time and my application remains busy and\nIt doesn't respond to users input. I button press events are queued and\nexected after server finished its task. Now I am going to try AppAddInput\ncall. So that It reads pipe only when there is something to read in pipe.\n\nI am thinking of creating one pipe in which server will write and client\nwhich is my X application will read. Now I have some doubts which you may\nbe able to clarify.\n\n1) When I fork a process. It will create to copy of my process. Right !!\n   Now what does this two copies mean? Two Shells. Where should I fork\n   my application. What are the responsibilities of this processes. How\n   should I call this processes.?\n\n2) Can I fork more than one processes. So that I can read from more\n   than one servers input.\n\nThanks\n\nSamir Patel\n\n\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\n\nspatel@cs.tamu.edu","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nOkay, I think we all agree that singles hitters should take a\nstrike or two and try to get on base any way they can.\n\nSo the \"No Power\/Impatient\" guys have no excuse.\nThe \"No Power\/Patient\" guys are doing the right thing.\n\nNow the \"Impatient\/Power\" guys (how could you leave out the Big Cat?).\nWould these guys have a better slugging percentage if they took\nmore pitches?   Perhaps, but I doubt it.  If you tell Joe Carter\nto go up there and take a few pitches, he will draw more walks, but\nhe also won't hit as many frozen ropes into the bleachers because\nhe is more likely to hold back on a pitch that he used to drive.\n\nThe \"Patient\/Power\" guys?   Joe Morgan had a small strike zone and\nRickey Henderson has \"a strike zone the size of Hitler's heart\" \nso they get their walks based on the small zone.\n\nLook at the other 5 guys: Thomas, Bonds, McGwire, Ruth and Williams.  Wow!\nA lot of pitchers would rather nibble at the corners and maybe\nwalk these guys that to throw a clear strike to them.\nThe pitchers would do better (in my opinion) by just coming after\nthem with a good fastball for a strike on the first pitch, but pitchers\nwould rather nibble, go 2-0 or 3-1 and then get hurt.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"What's the best lease quote that anyone has seen on a Toyota Previa DX or DX\nAll-trac for a two-year lease?  If you know where I can get a better\nrate than $330\/month, please contact me with the name and phone of\nthe dealership.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I know that Apple is working on an active matrix color powerbook.  When\nis it going to come out.  I heard on rumor that it will be in two months\nand another that it will be seen at the MacWorld Expo in Boston?  What's\nthe word?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I saw a 3 hour show on PBS the other day about the history of the\nJews. Appearently, the Cursades(a religious war agianst the muslilams\nin 'the holy land') sparked the widespread persecution of muslilams \nand jews in europe. Among the supporters of the persiecution, were none \nother than Martin Luther, and the Vatican.\n\nLater, Hitler would use Luthers writings to justify his own treatment\nof the jews.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nYes, where commodities are concerned. Imagining that capitalist\ntheorists had software in mind when they wrote their grand treatises\non \"the main point of capitalism\" is non-productive.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n< rest deleted >\n\nAs a followup to my post let me add that:\n\nI'm not really a Windows or Windows NT user, so please excuse my ignorance.\nHowever, I'm a developer at SAS Institute, and one component of the\napplication that I support is the ability to submit a (SAS) batch job from\nwithin an interactive SAS session.  The user site can enter their\nsite-specific \"batch profile\" into a dataset within our product, specifying\nthe pathname to the SAS executable, specifying site specific SAS options,\netc.  At run time certain variables are resolved, and the resolved file is\nwritten to an external ascii file.  Then I exit to the operating system and\nrun the job asynchronously, returning to the interactive session as soon as\nthe job is submitted.  The batch job then runs concurrently with the\ninteractive session.\n\nAs currently designed, the internal dataset has a record length of 80\ncharacters.  But, to run the batch job, the command to reinvoke SAS in\nbatch mode requires more than 80 characters.  Up til NT this has not been a\nproblem, since every job control\/shell language up til NT (eg.\nMVS\/CMS\/VMS\/UNIX\/OS2) had a way to escape the CR\/LF and enter a single\ncommand across multiple lines (OS\/2 via their REXX language, which is\n*STANDARD* with OS\/2).\n\nThe gist of all this is, since this application is for end-users, not\nwithin my company, I have to try to develop this process using native NT.\nSince my first posting I've learned that there are several third party\ncompanies that provide alternative script languages for Windows\/Windows NT.\nAnd I'm sure a company that licenses our product would use that alternative\nscript language if they had it, but I can't develop under the assumption\nthat they have anything other than what comes with NT.\n\nI saw another post on this list (the subject was something like \"Is vi\navailable for Windows?\") in which someone said that vi, make, awk, and\n***ksh*** was available with Microsoft TOOLKIT.  What is that product?  Is\nit a separate product or part of Windows?  ksh would do what I need if I\ncould count on it at all NT sites.\n\nOne last question:  I've heard that NT has remote processing capabilities,\ni.e. I could shove this batch job off to a server machine and have it run\nthere.  If these are native NT commands rather than network specific\ncommands, this would also help me improve this process.  If you can comment\non these commands, I would appreciate it.\n\nThanks again for the help,\n\n--\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nScott Bass                           |  SAS Institute Inc.\nIntegrated Systems, A216, x6975      |  SAS Campus Drive, Cary, NC  27513-2414\nsasswb@k2.unx.sas.com                |  (919) 677-8001 x6975","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nHe appears to have believed that.  He had a view which was condemned by conciliar\naction, which is often taken to be condemnation of the idea of reincarnation.\nWhat was actually condemned was the doctrine of the pre-existence of the soul\nbefore birth.  Similar, but not exactly the same thing.  \n\nLarry Overacker (ll@shell.com)\n-- ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nI'd try it on the VFR, but goddamn Competition Accessories hasn't mailed my\norder yet.  Hell, it's only been two weeks and I was ordering some pretty\nbizzare stuff.  Like a clear RF-200 face sheild, and a can of Chain Wax...\nBastards.\n\nDean","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I am planning on buying a repair manual for my ford taurus. (92).\nIs the $53 Ford shop manual comprehensive  enough , covering repairs\nin all aspects of the car ?\n\n\n\nhow about the haynes manual for tarus ?\n\nplease email replies if possible.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I have used a product called \"Goof-off\" it comes in a little yellow \ncan (about the size of a deck of playing cards).\n\nIt has worked well for removing all kinds of sticker and tape residues.\n\nNOTE: always test a small area in an inconspicuous place before using.  \n\nGood luck,\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nI think there is another formula for ERA.  I heard something about it last \nyear.  Im not sure what it is, but im gonna give it a stab.  It allows for\na pitcher to pitch more than 9 innings at a time and not benefit, cuz it\nuses outs recorded instead of innings pitched...\n\n        ERA = (ER*27)\/outs recorded\n\nLike i said, im not sure this is exactly it, but im pretty sure they changed\nit to something of the sort.\n\n\n\n\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I have a group of GIF images that each contain 6 small images in \nthe same place on all the images. I need a program to crop out the\nsmall images to a new GIF file. All the programs I can find make me\nuse the mouse or keyboard to define the cropping coordinates. Is there\na program out there for a PC that can take the crop coordinates on\nthe command line?","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I hope David isn't going to be too upset with me for sticking my nose\nin here again, but here goes......:-)\n\nIt isn't the average temperature that is the key factor here, but rather\nwhich is better at transferring the heat out of the (presumably warmer\nthan ground temperature) battery.  Call it a question of thermal\nconductivity, or of insulating ability, or \"thermal mass\" - whatever you\nlike.  Question - why does a concrete floor feel cooler than the \nsurrounding dirt when you place your hand on it?\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\tHahahahahaha.  *gasp*  *pant*  Hm, I'm not sure whether the above\nwas just a silly remark or a serious remark.  But in case there are\nsome misconceptions, I think Henry Robertson hasn't updated his data\nfile on Korea since...mid 1970s.  Owning a car in Korea is no longer\na luxury.  Most middle class people in Korea can afford a car and do\nhave at least one car.  The problem in Korea, especially in Seoul, is\nthat there are just so many privately-owned cars, as well as taxis and\nbuses, the rush-hour has become a 24 hour phenomenon and that there is\nno place to park.  Last time I heard, back in January, the Kim Administration\nwanted to legislate a law requireing a potential car owner to provide\nhis or her own parking area, just like they do in Japan.\n\n\tAlso, Henry would be glad to know that Hyundai isn't the only\ncar manufacturer in Korea.  Daewoo has always manufactured cars and\nI believe Kia is back in business as well.  Imported cars, such as\nMercury Sable are becoming quite popular as well, though they are still\nquite expensive.\n\n\tFinally, please ignore Henry's posting about Korean politics\nand bureaucracy.  He's quite uninformed.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nYou are forced everyday to associate with people that you do not\nwish to, and there isn't even a law that makes you do it.  But \nyou do, becuase you want to go shopping, or go to work, or go to\na public park, or go to a baseball game, etc.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Usually, you apply\n\n[R]    [ 1     0        1.402   ][Y]\n[G] =  [ 1  -0.34414   -0.71414 ][U]\n[B]    [ 1    1.772     0       ][V]\n\n\nafter unlevelshifting U and V (subtracting 128 from them).\n\nThis matrix multiplication may give results out of RGB space, so you\nhave to clamp the resulting bytes to [0..255].\nThe conversion should be done with arbitrary big integers, not floats :)\n\nThis applies to YUV data whereas NTSC may have YIQ where a 33 degree\nrotation to U\/V is buid in.\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"marshall@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Kevin Marshall) <1r2eba$hsq@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>\n\nFaith and dogma are dangerous because they cause people to act on\nfaith alone, which by its nature is without justification.  That\nis what I mean by the word ``faith'': belief without justification, or\nbelief with arbitrary justification, or with emotional (irrational)\njustification.\n\nFor example, when someone says that God exists, that they don't know\nwhy they believe God exists, they can just feel it, that's faith.\n\nDogma is bad because it precludes positive change in belief based\non new information, or increased mental faculty.\n\nFaith and dogma are irrational.  The faith and dogma part of any religion\nare responsible for the irrationality of the individuals.  I claim that\nfaith and dogma are the quintessential part of any religion.  If that\nmakes (the much overused in this context) Buddism a philosophy rather\nthan a religion, I can live with that.  Science is not a religion,\nbecause there is no faith nor dogma.\n\nHave you noticed that philosophers tend to be atheists?  If a philosopher\nis not an atheist, s\/he tends to be called a theologian.\n\nA Christian tends to consider Christianity sacred.  Christianity is\na special set of beliefs, sanctioned by God himself, and therefore,\nto conceive of changing those beliefs is to question the existence\nof That Being Who Makes No Mistakes.  Faith comes into play.  Dogma\ncomes into play.  ``The lord works in mysterious ways'' is an example\nof faith being used to reconcile evidence that the beliefs are flawed.\nSure, interpretations of what ``God said'' are changed to satisfy the\nneeds of society, but when God says something, that's it.  It was said,\nand that's that.  Since God said it, it is unflawed, even if the\ninterpretations are flawed.\n\nScience, (as would be practiced by atheists) in contrast, has a\nBUILT IN defence against faith and dogma.\nA scientist holds sacred the idea that beliefs should change to\nsuit whatever is the best information available at the time, AND,\n*AND*, ****AND***, a scientist understands that any current beliefs\nare deficient in some way.  The goal is to keep improving\nthe beliefs.  The goal is to keep changing the beliefs to reflect\nthe best information currently available.  That's the only rational\nthing to do.  That's good philosophy.\n\nCan you see the difference?  Science views beliefs as being flawed,\nand new information can be obtained to improve them.  (How many\nscientists would claim to have complete and perfect understanding\nof everything?  None---it would put them out of a job!)  Religion\nviews its beliefs as being perfect, and the interpretations of\nthose beliefs must be changed as new information is acquired which\nconflicts with them.\n\nIt's easier for someone to kill a person when s\/he doesn't require\na good rational justification of the killing.  I don't consider\n``he's Jewish'', or ``he was born of Jewish parents'', or\n``this document says he's Jewish'' to be good rational justification.\n\n\nClinton and the FBI would love for you to convince them of this.\nIt would save the US taxpayer a lot of money if you could.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"It is all so changed by now. but in case any of you is\ninterested in what I actually said, I never compared the\nIsraeli treatment of the palestinians with the Holocaust.\nAnyway that is the truth if it matters. I was about to forget\nabout it myself since everyone started calling me anti-semitic\nfor making the comparison that I never made. What I did say was\nthat the Nazis didn't start with the Holocaust and their\ninitial actions were similar to what the Israelis are doing now.\n\tThe Jews that were stranded on the polish border since\nno country accepted them are like the arabs stranded on the\nlebenese border. No trials, no hearing, just expulsion based on\nguilt due to race. \n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nHow about tell everyone what the hell they were doing there in the first place?\n\nIf we knew that, we'd be in a much better position to judge their actions.\nUntil then, we can only speculate and develop nice conspiracy and\/or police\nstate stories.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"(sci.space readers can skip the first paragraph)\n\n  Yesterday, in response to Henry Spencer's question about the \ntemperature of a blackbody in interstellar space, I said \"Dust grains\nacts as blackbodies, and they're at 40-150 K.\"  Well, I was dead\nwrong.  Our local interstellar dust expert, Bruce Draine, has\ninformed me that dust grains _aren't_ good radiators in the far IR,\nwhich is why they are so warm; actually, the ambient radiation field\nfrom distant stars can bring a true blackbody to only 3 or 4 Kelvin.\nSorry, Henry, and anyone else I misled.  Obviously, time for me to\ntake another ISM class :-(\n\n  In other news, Alan Stern of the Southwest Research Institute gave\na talk on the Pluto-Charon binary system yesterday.  He gave a brief\noverview of the currently-accepted system parameters (volume ratio of\nabout 8:1, mass ratio about 15:1 or so, plus lots more...) and then\ngave his thoughts on the formation of Pluto-Charon.  His idea is \nthat there were lots and lots of small planetesimals in the outer\nsolar system, with masses distributed as a power law of some kind;\nover time, the planetesimals accreted into larger bodies.  Most got\nscattered out of the solar system by close encounters with Jupiter\nand Saturn, but many accreted into the gas giants, especially\nUranus and Neptune.  A large planetesimal was captured by Neptune -\nwe call it Triton [captured how?  Perhaps by a collision with a smaller,\nalready-existing Neptunian moon, perhaps by a very close passage through\nNeptune's atmosphere - mondo aerobraking!].\n\n  He notes that the two recently discovered \"Kuiper Belt\" objects,\n1992 QB1 and 1993 FW, plus Chiron and Pholus, are all about the same \nmass, and he identifies this group as one-accretion-down from the\nlarger bodies of Triton and Pluto\/Charon.  Pluto\/Charon, he thinks,\nformed when an impacting body hit proto-Pluto, knocking some material\ninto a ring around Pluto which later accreted in Charon; similar to\nideas about the formation of Earth's moon.  There is good evidence\nfrom spectra that the surfaces of Pluto and Charon are very different\n(Pluto has methane frost, Charon doesn't), which can be used as evidence\nfor the impact theory.\n\n  He believes that there may be around 1000 Pluto-to-Chiron-sized objects\nremaining in a relatively stable dynamical zone just outside Neptune's \norbit, beyond 35 AU or so.  1992 QB1 and 1993 FW are the first members\nof this population to be found, in his model.  Note that such bodies\nwill be very dark, since if their surfaces are covered with methane \nfrost, it will have photolyzed into very dark, long-chain hydrocarbons\nby now.  The reason that Pluto has such a high albedo (around 0.5, I think)\nis that its surface warms up JUST enough around perihelion to sublimate,\nand when the atmosphere freezes out again, thirty years later, it forms\nbright, new frost.  So any bodies much farther away than 30 AU are going\nto be very hard to see.\n\n  I hope I haven't made any errors in the transcription; if you see\na howling mistake, it's undoubtedly mine, not his.\n\n  By the way, he's one of the top guns behind the Pluto Fast Flyby\nmission (I think), and said that the current plans are to use a\nTitan 4 to send the probe on \"just about a rectilinear trajectory\"\nto Pluto (we were speaking loosely at the time...).  He'd like\nto use a Proton, which gives a slightly smaller velocity but costs\nMUCH less.  His figures: $500 Million for 2 Titan 4 launches (there\nwill be two separate probes, launched separately), or $120 Million\nfor 2 Proton launches.  He told a story about how the Soviets originally\noffered to sell Proton launches for $30 Million each, but were forced\nto increase their prices in the US in order to be allowed in the\nmarketplace.\n\n  I'm just telling you what he said.\n\n                          Michael\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nIf he says he knows for a fact, what more do you have to gain if he gives\nhis word?  Do you think he's lying right now?\n\n\nAnyway, how about this: I give you my word, without naming sources, that IBM\npaid companies to write applications for OS\/2.  Satisfied?","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nSorry if this is late for the thread, but...\n\nI thought God was supposed to be constant and never-changing.  How do\nyou reconcile this common Christian view with the paragraph above?\n\nAlso, while we're at it:\n\n1. How do you reconcile \"A KIND and LOVING God!!\" with the\nJudeo-Christian view that sin was at one time \"immediately punishable\nby death\"?  Was killing people for sinning God's way of showing\nKINDness and LOVE?\n\n2. Is the fact the He no longer does this an admission on His part of\nhaving made a mistake?\n\n3. Now that we are \"living in the age of grace\", does this mean that\nfor our sins, God now damns us to eternal hell after we die, rather\nthan killing us immediately?  If so, is this eternal damnation an\nexample of \"A KIND and LOVING God!!\"?\n\nJust curious.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
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{"text":"\nBlack ones look better.  None are truely indiginous to America,\nalthough some of the finest are produced here.  Gear is expensive, and\nyou never seem have enough of it.  Volvos hit them.  Only idiots\nintentionally rear up the front half off the ground just to look cool.\nPosers don't ride them in the rain.  They are dangerous on ice.  Loud\nones are annoying, and too much chrome looks dumb.\n\nYep, sounds familiar!\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"-=> Quoting Greg Rogers to All <=-\n GR> Hi all,\n GR> Due to living in the Bay Area, I as unable to see Vancouver's victory\n GR> over the Jets last night.  I know the score, but that rarely describes\n GR> the game. Could someone please post a brief sonapsis (sp?) of waht\n GR> happened.  How well did each team play?  Were the cannucks deserving of\n GR> the victory? \n GR> Also, could some kind soul please email me the end of season,\n GR> individual player stats?\n\n GR> Greg\n\n GR> -- Vancouver for the cup (in a virtual reality)--\n\n\n\n            I am sorry to tell you this Greg, but in all\n            reality, we cannot see Vancouver winning the\n            cup.  They have a rrally good chance to come\n            out of the Smythe Division, and a chance to make \n            it to the finals, but no one is capable this year\n            of beating the Penguins, they have too many\n            scoring threats. I would love to be proven wrong, but\n            I must conclude that the Pens will win cup 3 this year.\n\n\n            Steve\n\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I've never ridden pillion very much but recently had an excellent \nexperience passengering with Dave Edmondson at pilot while in London. \n\nI found that it upset the bike much less if I rode with the pilot, that\nis, if I looked over his shoulder and anticipated when I should hold on\nhard for braking or acceleration. I tried to always look over the\ninside shoulder on corners and move as little as possible, leaving\nDave to manage me and the bike as he normally would the bike and \nluggage.\n\nHard acceleration can be quite unnerving as the feeling of being spit \noff the back is hard to fight. Similarly, I held on to the grab handles\ntightly when Dave needed to brake so as not to mash him to a pulp (I'm\na lot bigger than he is...). Reaching around him and pushing off the \ntank seemed like it would be very awkward and make it even harder for \nhim to manage.\n\nOn the rare occasions when I carry a passenger myself, I absolutely\nrefuse to carry anyone who is not properly accoutered for riding. That's\nhelmet, jacket, gloves, stout pants and shoes\/boots as a minimum. It's \nnot my responsibility to provide this gear, but it's my responsibility\nto require it if they want to ride.\n\nAnd I agree with an earlier poster: if you've not had much experience\ncarrying a particular passenger and especially if you've not carried\nmany passengers before, take a few gentler rides of some duration before\nyou head off to a difficult road like Mines\/Mt. Hamilton. That's a \nnasty place to find yourself in trouble.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nHPGL does not support raster primitives, so a formatter would have to \npunt on most popular image formats.  This probably explains the lack of\ntranslators out there.  What do you need to plot ?","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n\n    The first thing I would do would be to disband Medicare and Medicade!  They\nare a primary reason why health care costs are going up.  To cover the people\nthat are currently on these programs, I would sell their coverage in blocks\nto insurance companies.  The private companies would bid to get these large\nblocks of people, and prices would go down.\n\n    To get away from strong federal control on health care, I would pass off\nmore control to the states.  Everyone is always spewing forth about how \nwonderful Hawaii is doing.  Well, how about giving some other STATES incentive\nto try their own plans\n\n    What I would NOT do is try to implement some far reaching federal program\nprogram to cover all Americans, because this is the surest way to fail!\n\n\n\n   One sure way to stop throwing money away is to stop giving so much to the\nfederal government.  Our FEDERAL taxes should be slashed, and our STATE taxes\nincreased.  A strong central government always fails.  Give power back to the\nstates\/counties\/cities, where it belongs.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nFor those of you who read TV Guide, there's an article in next week's\nSPORTSVIEW concerning the NHL and major network broadcasting. Pretty\ninteresting.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Now I have a couple raytracing questions.\nJust so you know I'm using PovRay 1.0 (both MS-dos and Unix) and I'm generating Targa files of varying size.\n\n1) ok, so I can view these wonderful pictures on my screen.  What's the best way  to get them on to paper?  Would it be possible to take it to Kinko's and have   them make an actual picture on paper from it?\n\n2) I was thinking about making a small animation bit with different raytraced \nframes.  Is this a bad idea?  Any tricks to it?\n\n3","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\tI don't think the question is:\n\t\t\"will OS\/2 X.X run Windows Y.Y apps now?\"\n\n\tA more important question is:\n\t\t\"will subsequent OS\/2 versions continue to run apps\n\t\tfrom subsequent Windows versions in the future?\"\n\n\tCan it keep up?  Will a future OS\/2 3.0 run Windows 4 apps?\n\tOLE2 is very complex and is the sign of things to come.\n\tAfter this fall, I believe IBM no longer has any rights to\n\tview Microsoft code.  After that, the only way to maintain\n\tsome sort of compatibility is to reverse-engineer.  Would\n\tyou want to reverse-engineer an OLE2 application?\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nBut you already can go at the speed limit at 4000 rpm.  All you need\nto do is to find a road with a 35 mph speed limit.\n\nThis isn't quite as silly as it sounds.  If you take a nice day trip\nover back roads (*not* highways full of people trying seriously to get\nfrom here to there) then you might be able to hold 35 mph comfortably.\nYou could easily do 500 miles over three different weekends.  You\nmight even get to enjoy some of the scenery.  Yes, I know this is\nprobably not why you bought a 250 called \"Ninja.\"","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I heard that MAGIC has been transported to the Macintosh environment.  Does\nanybody know where I can get a hold of this?  Thanks in advance for any\nresponses.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nWell, I agree that if you're going to stand in front of the net,\nthat you should expect to get hit and hacked at. In general, you\nshould expect to finish the game with some bruises. However,\nthere is a fine line between hacking at a guy (causing some pain\nand discomfort) and blatantly attempting to injure another\nplayer. Felix Potvin, IMO, crossed that line on Wednesday. That\ntwo hander on Ciccarelli was way out of line. I lost a lot of\nrespect for Potvin because of that. It showed an immaturity. He\ndid not slash at Ciccarelli to simply try to remove him from the\nslot area (a legal position for Dino to be in). Instead, he\nslashed in an attempt to injure. It was out of shear frustration. As a\nLeaf supporter (just a supporter, I'm not a Leaf fan really), I\nwas very disappointed.\n\nYou're right in mentioning Billy Smith and Ron Hextall (at least\nin his Philly days). They both crossed that same line at times and\nfor that reason, many fans (and players) disliked them (that's\nwhy their names always comes up as examples when we talk about\nthese issues). Let's hope that Felix doesn't do that again. I'd\nhate to see anyone (even Dino --- although I admit I don't like\nhim very much) get seriously hurt from such careless (but\nintentional) use of the stick.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Have I mailed this to the correct newsgroup(s)? Are there other newsgroup(s)\nwhich cover the following topic?\n--------\n\nHas anyone with myopia (short-sightedness) ever done the Bates eye-exercises?\n\nIf so, could you please e-mail me the following information:\n\n\t- age and state of sight before exercises were commenced;\n\n\t- type, frequency, and length of time spent on exercises performed;\n\n\t- improvements noticed immediately after performing exercises;\n\n\t- length of period before any improved sight deteriorates;\n\nThanks in advance for any replies. I'll summarise and post results if there's\nenough interest.\n\n - Jonathan Goldstein\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nWhat's this?  Another idiot from McRCIM.McGill.EDU?  Or are these all\nthe same dope using different accounts?\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\nPlease explain how the removal of Israel from the eqation is going to\nease the situation in Iran, Iran\/Iraq, Iraq, Iraq\/Kuwait, Syria,\nLebanon, Libya, Algeria, Egypt, Sudan ...  Human rights, freedom of\npress and religion, slavery, government oppression in authoritarian\nsocieties  --  how are these going to be solved by removing Israel\nfrom the Middle East?\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nThe compressed image format used for the Voyager disks is not (yet)\nsupported by any Macintosh display software that I know of. However,\nthere does exist a program that can convert the images to a format that\nis recognized by recent versions of both Pixel Pusher and NIH\/Image. It\nis called \"PDS Decompress\" and is available via anonymous ftp from the\n\"pub\" directory on \"delcano.mit.edu\" [18.75.0.80]. This is a Binhex\/\nStuffit archive and contains the application itself, Think-C source,\nand a very brief description.\n\nThe most recent version of NIH\/Image (1.48) may be down-loaded from\n\"starhawk.jpl.nasa.gov\", where it is located in \"image148.hqx\" in the\n\"pub\" directory. This archive also contains source code, but not the\ndocumentation, which is located in the \"image1455.hqx\" archive in the\nsame directory.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"In the last two weeks I have the following problem on two 160's\n\n1 has a 8Mb Simm and the other a 6 Mb simm\nBoth are about 2 -3 months old, bought from different vendors and installed\nby different people. \n\nBoth computers begin crashing frequently, locking up and ultimately the\nMemory Chimes.  Crashes would almost always occur if you moved the screen\nand sometimes would occur when you weren't even touching the computer.  In\nboth cases, taking the machine apart, taking the memory out and putting it\nback in solved the problem for awhile but then it would comeback,  my\nmarginally educated guess as to what's happening is that larger SIMMS are\n\"lopsided\" in that the insertion point is sort of a pivot point and after\ntime they begin to move about - possible because of pressure on the\nkeyboard or something?  \n\nAnyway, has anyone else had such a problem or solution - If somehow you\ncould support the other end of the simm to prevent it from moving.\n\nI've had no problem for the past 3 weeks by replacing my 8Mb simm with a\n2Mbsimm -although this is NOT desireble solution.\n\nPlease email any resp - and\/or post if usefull to the rest of the world.\n\nTed\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n    That's the current rumor that was started by MacWEEK last month.\n\n\n    How else would you accomplish this kind of an upgrade?\n\n\n    Of course. This is Apple we are talking about here.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n  BUT...  Suppose they had waited.  The WORST outcome would have been the\none that actually did.  But with the FBI\/ATF just standing there watching\ninstead of being a part of the problem.  It then would have been very clear\nexactly who was at fault then, rather than the way it turned out.\n\n  AND, that would have been the WORST case.  The best would have been, they\nfinally get hungry and come out.  Possible\/likely?  Well, the alternative was\nworse...\n\n\n\n  But what does it matter?  Why say \"I don't remember....\" when it doesn't\nmake any difference?  Altho the clintonettes have been pretty good at lying\nwhen it wasn't necessary, they didn't do it this time.  But it wasn't \nnecessary - claiming full responsibility is a totall meaningless gesture.\nSymbolism over substance - again!  \n\n  I've offered to take full responsibility.  When do they pay me the big\nbucks the AG is making...????   ;^)\n-- \n-------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I'm looking for a printer driver for the Apple Imagewriter II. (This printer\nis actually the same as a Citoh 8510.\n\n--","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"In Article: 106628 of rec.sport.baseball,\n<HEALEY@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> (Roger Healey)  wrote >>\n\n\nYes, the stance is new.  Don Baylor was his batting coach at St. Louis last\nyear, and now, as his manager, is continuing to work with him.  Maybe Andres\nhas a \"weak\" left eye and the open stance gives him a better look at the\nball.  Or maybe it is simply improving his mechanics - I dunno.  But the\nchange seems to have enabled him to hit the ball as well as 5 years ago.  His\nselectivity has not changed.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nI can certainly see opposing the \"Amen\" -- but that doesn't require \nopposing a moment of silence.\n\n\nDoes anybody else besides me see a vicious circle here?  I guarantee\nyou the people who want school prayer aren't going to back off when\nthey can't even manage to get a quiet moment for their kids to pray\nsilently.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nI would expect the EISA board to be more than twice as fast as the ISA\nboard.  Not only are you moving data on a path twice as wide (at\nleast), but there is a difference in the number of clocks required for\nbus transactions between the two busses.  Most ISA boards require\nmultiple clocks per bus transaction -- typically this is around 3-4.\nEISA boards are suppose to be able to 'burst' at a 1:1 rate, so I\nwould expect performance to be 6x-8x that of an ISA card.  \n\nSo I guess, for me, the question is unanswered still.  I would expect\nhim to be able to see a 6x speed difference, and he apparently does\nnot.  \n\n-- \n\"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live\n in the real world.\"   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I'm afraid I was not able to find the GIFs... is the list \nupdated weekly, perhaps, or am I just missing something?","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nIf you are planning on using this on a regular basis, conncting the printer\nto file can become bothersome because Windows then asks you for the filename\nthat you want to create. I've found that putting a line in system.ini in the\nports section with just a path and filename works. The only problem is that\nif you send more than one job, the second one deletes the first.\n\n\nChris","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Hi! This is my first time to post on this news group. Now a days , I have stucked at a certain problem. I have '88 mazda mx-6, non  turbo fuel injection.\n   There is a engine warning signal on the dash board. While driving, this signal turns on, but not always. What does this mean? In the manual, they say \"Go to authorized mazda dealer.\". It is really good idea. Don't you think so? \n  I wanna know how the engine warning signal comes. Is anybody out there who can give me same advice as \"authorized mazda dealer\" can give ?\n\nYoujip Won","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"The Private Scietific & industrial firm \"Intercom 2000\" can\nsupply You with the transplantants that could be delivered according\nto Your order.\n\n    Selection and preparation of the materials is carried out by the\nqualified personnel having 20-year experience in this sphere.\n\n    We provide:\n\n - Immunological selection of tissues ( on the special request);\n\n - AIDS, Syphilis & other infection diseases tests;\n\n - bio-chemical tests.\n\n    We guarantee deliverance of our products within temperature\nhabital providing their prime condition.\n\n                O.Yarosha st. 39\n                apart. 49\n                Kharkov, Ukraine.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"The best reason to abolishing the ATF is that they don't have enough\nto do.  If the organization were disbanded and its duties assigned to\nthe FBI (firearms) and IRS (tobacco and alcohol).  Both of these\norganizations have enough to do.  The FBI is probably not going to try\nto get a criminal charge of illegal machine gun for having a broken\ngun.\n \nThere have been postings stating that law enforcement should be\ndivided and and weak.  But there is nothing more dangerous to\nliberties than a law enforcement agency without enough criminals to\nchase.  The ATF is one and look at the trouble it started in\nWaco.\n \n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nIndeed, the immediate context [NASB] is:\n\n  26 Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer often\n  since the foundation of the world; but now once at\n  the consummation He has been manifested to put away \n  sin by the sacrifice of Himself.\n\n  27 And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die\n  once, and after this comes judgement;\n\n  28 so Christ also, having been offered once to bear\n  the sins of many, shall appear a second time, not to\n  bear sin, tro those who eagerly await him.\n\n\nThe first point is that this verse is part of an even larger\ncontext, the subject of which is not the destiny of the\nindividual human soul but rather the singular nature of Christ's\nsacrifice, \"once\", and the fulfillment of the law for all of fallen \nmankind.  Rudolf Frieling elaborates this in detail in his \n\"Christianity and Reincarnation\".  The thrust of the passage\nin its context is to liken the one time incarnation and \nsacrifice of Christ for all mankind to the individual \nexperience of the human being after death.  The \"once\" \nis repeated and emphasized, and it highlights the singularity \nof Christ's deed.  One thing for certain it does is to \nrefute the claims of some that Christ incarnates more than \nonce.  But the comparison to the human experience - die \nonce, then judgement (note: not \"the judgement\", but just \n\"judgement\".  The word for judgement is \"krisis\".\n\nHebrews 9:27 is the one passage most often quoted in defense\nof the doctrine that the Bible denies reincarnation.  At this\npoint, I would just emphasize again that the  passages \nthat (arguably) speak against it are few, and that invariably\nthey are talking about something eles, and the apparent denial\nof reincarnation is either inferred, or, as in the case of\nHebrews, taken literally and deposited into an implied context,\nnamely a doctrine of the destiny of the human being after\ndeath.\n\nWhat should be considered seriously is that the Bible is essentially\nsilent about the fate of the individual human being between death\nand the Last Day.  If you take the few passages that could possibly\nbe interpreted to mean a single earth life, they are arguable.  And\nthere are other passages that point, arguably, in the other direc-\ntion. such as Matthew 11:14 and John 9:2.\n\nWe can continue to debate the individual scraps of scripture that\nmight have a bearinig on this, and indeed we should discuss them.\nBut what I wanted to introduce into the discussion was an approach\nto the idea of repeated earth lives that, unlike Hindu, Buddhist\nand \"new age\" teachings, takes full cognizance of the divinity, singular\nincarnation, death, burial, resurrection, and second coming of Christ\nas the savior of mankind; the accountability of each individual for\nhis deeds and the reality of the Fall and of sin and its consequences;\nthe redemption of man from sin through Christ; the resurrection of\nthe body, and the Last Judgement.\n\nTaken in this larger sense, many serious questions take on an entirely\ndifferent perspective.  E.g. the destiny of those who died in their\nsins before Christ came. the relationship of faith and grace to \nworks, the meaning of \"deathbed conversion\", the meaning of the\nsacraments, and many other things.  Not that I propose to answer all\nthose questions by a simple doctrine of convenience, but only that\nthe discussion takes on a different dimension, and in my opinion\none that is truly worthy of both man, the earth, and their Creator and \nRedeemer. There are many deep questions that continue to be deep, such \nas the meaning of the second death, and how the whole of Christian\ndoctrine would apply to this larger perspective of human existence.\n\nThere are those who deeply believe that the things of which the Bible \ndoes not speak are not things we should be concerned with.  But Christ\nalso indicated that there were other things that we would come to know\nin the future, including things that his disciples (and therefore others) \ncould not bear yet.  This idea that the human capacity for growth in\nknowledge, not only of the individual in one lifetime, but of the whole\nof humanity, also takes on great meaning when we realize that our growth\nin the spirit is a long term process.  The Bible was not meant to codify\nall spiritual knowledge in one place forever, but to proclaim the gospel\nof the incarnation and redeeming deed of Christ - taking the gospel in the\ngreater context, from Genesis to Revelation.  Now, salvation (healing) becomes, \nnot the end of man's sojourn but its beginning.  And the Last Judgement and\nthe New Heaven and Earth that follow it become its fulfullment.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Disclaimer -- This is for fun.\n\nIn my computerized baseball game, I keep track of a category called\n\"stolen hits\", defined as a play made that \"an average fielder would not\nmake with average effort.\"  Using the 1992 Defensive Averages posted\nby Sherri Nichols (Thanks Sherri!), I've figured out some defensive stats\nfor the leftfielders. Hits Stolen have been redefined as \"Plays Kevin\nBass would not have made.\"\n\nOK, I realize that's unfair.  Kevin's probably the victim of pitching staff,\nfluke shots, and a monster park factor.  But let's put it this way:  If we\nreplaced every leftfielder in the league with someone with Kevin's 49.4% out\nmaking ability, how many extra hits would go by?\n\nTo try and correlate it to reality a little more, I've calculated Net\nHits Stolen, based on the number of outs made compared to what a league\naverage fielder would make.  By the same method I've calculated Net Extra \nBases (doubles and triples let by).\n\nFinally, I throw all this into a a formula I call Defensive Contribution, or\nDCON :->.  Basically, it represents the defensive contribution of a player.\nI add this number to OPS to get DOPS (Defense + Onbase Plus Slug), which\nshould represent the player's total contribution to the team.  So don't\ntake it too seriously.  The formula for DCON appears at the end of this\narticle.\n\nThe short version -- definition of terms\nHS -- Hits Stolen -- Extra outs compared to Kurt Stillwell\nNHS -- Net Hits Stolen -- Extra outs compared to average fielder\nNDP -- Net Double Plays -- Extra double plays turned compared to avg fielder\nNEB -- Net Extra Bases --  Extra bases prevented compared to avg. fielder\nDCON -- Defensive Contribution -- bases and hits prevented, as a rate.\nDOPS -- DCON + OPS -- quick & dirty measure of player's total contribution.\n\nNational League\n\nName            HS   NHS   NEB   DCON    DOPS\nGonzalez, L.    63    28    20   .192    .866\nGilkey, B.      52    23    14   .150    .941\nClark, G.       46    11    11   .065    .726\nAlou, M.        20     3    12   .052    .835\nBonds, B.       54     9    -7   .019   1.099\nMay, D.         21     0    -7  -.020    .659\nGant, R.        31    -5    -2  -.021    .715\nBass, K.         0   -24    -4  -.126    .600\n\nOrdered by DOPS\n\n1.099 Bonds\n .941 Gilkey\n .866 Gonzalez\n .835 Alou\n .726 Clark\n .718 *NL Average*\n .715 Gant\n .659 May\n .600 Bass\n\n\nAmerican League\n---------------\n\nName            HS   NHS   NEB   DCON    DOPS\nRaines, T.      53    22    20   .111    .896\nAnderson, B.    65    30     8   .102    .924\nHenderson, R.   43    20     4   .101    .984\nVaughn, G.      55    27    -3   .095    .817\nGladden, D.     25     4     8   .038    .699\nHall, M.        29     6    -2   .017    .756\nMack, S.        38     6    -8   .005    .866\nPolonia, L.     10   -11    10  -.019    .647\nMcReynolds, K.  13    -8    -9  -.064    .711\nMaldanado, C.    9   -21   -12  -.105    .714\nReimer, K.       5   -18   -16  -.102    .671\n\n\nOrder by DOPS\n\n.984 Henderson\n.924 Anderson\n.896 Raines\n.866 Mack\n.817 Vaughn\n.756 Hall\n.733 *AL Average*\n.714 Maldanado\n.711 McReynolds\n.699 Gladden\n.671 Reimer\n.647 Polonia\n\nMore discussion --\n\nDCON formula:  ((NHS + NDP)\/PA) + ((NHS + NDP + NEB)\/AB)\nWhy such a bizzare formula?  Basically, it's designed to be added into the\nOPS, with the idea that \"a run prevented is as important as a run scored\".\nThe extra outs are factored into OBP, while the extra bases removed are \nfactored into SLG.  That's why I used PA and AB as the divisors.\n\nFor more discussion see the post on Hits Stolen -- First Base 1992\n-- \nDale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
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{"text":"Sci med people:\n \nCan I sell my TENS unit or does it have to be sold by a physician or\nother liscened person?","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nNo doubt the sci.med* folks are getting out their flamethrowers.  I'm\nrather certain that the information you got was not medical literature\nin the accepted academic\/scientific journals.  So, the righteous among\nthem will no doubt jump on that.\n\nAlso, insofar as it doesn't conform to the accepted medical presumption\nthat it just doesn't matter what you eat, and that we can think of the\nGI tract as a black box in which nothing ever goes wrong (except for\nmaybe cancer and ulcers), the righteous will no doubt jump on that too.\n\nThen there'll be the ones who call your doctor a raving quack, even\nthough he, like Linus Pauling, is lucid and robust well into his\nnineties--but nevermind about that.  He shouldn't charge for his\nequipment and supplies, since they're no doubt not approved by the\nFDA.  Of course, with FDA approval an MD or pharmaceutical company can\ncharge whatever they can get for such safe and effective treatments as\nthalidomide.  But nevermind about that either.\n\nUnfortunately, you dared to step into the sacred turf of Net.Medical.\nDiscussion without a credential and without understanding that the\nrighteous among them will make certain that you are suitably denounced\nbefore dismissing you as a fool.\n\nBut maybe somebody without such a huge chip on their shoulder will\nsend you some reasonable responses by e-mail.\n\n1\/2 ;^)  \n\n1\/2 ;^(\n\nOh yes, I did have a point.  A few years ago an MD with a thriving\npractice in a very wealthy part of Silicon Valley once recommended that\nI take such treatments to clear up a skin condition.  (Not through his\noffice, I might add.)  Although I'm sure that's not conclusive, it was\nsure an unusual prescription!","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"element analysis, radiosity, distributed processing\n\nHi,\n\n\tI'm looking for references to parallel algorithms on:\n\n\t\toctrees\n\t\tadaptive subdivision\n\t\tadaptive meshing\n\t\tfinite element meshing\/analysis\n\t\tradiosity\n\n\tAny help will be greatly appreciated.  E-mail replies to\u0018","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nI don't have any written data but I know what I have experienced.  I use  \nS-50 in everything including my lawnmowers.  In my car it smoothed the idle\nand reduced the operating temp by 5 degrees.  I havent used it long enough \nto test for wear, but some people I know have.   \n A farmer that lives near by used to have to overhaul his big deisel tractors\nat least every other year if not every year.  Since he has been using S-50\nhe has went 5 years without an overhaul.\n\nAlso a friend at a machine shop has in the past rebuilt engines with 200K\nmiles on them because the coustomer thought it was time.  These coustomers\nhad ran S-50 since almost new.  It was found when measuring the internals\nof the engine that they showed only about the amount of wear that would be\nexpected of 30K miles not 200K.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":" \n \n      And Dino Ciccarelli and Ray Sheppard and so on and so on.....\n \n    : )","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nHis name is Clint Malarchuk.  I'm not sure what he does now but I've heard\nhe's an extra in slasher films.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nWait a minute; I could swear that Varsho is white.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"FOR SALE OR TRADE!!!\n\nBMW R60US frame and misc.,converted to Earles fork. The package includes:\n\n\tFrame, swingarm and Earles fork\n\tFinal drive(27\/8)\n\tRear fender, front fender, large tank\n\tSteel wheels laced w\/ ss spokes, one new rim, one EC used rim\n\tAll brackets, brake hdware, footrests etc.\n\tThe colour scheme used is the original BMW optional Bristol grey\n\tItems not painted are: Earles rigid section(needs straightening,\n\t\tthis rigid section was bent when I received it, not from \n\t\tbeing mounted to the R60US frame),Earles swingarm and the \n\t\theadlight shell. I have the paintthat was used and can \n\t\tfinish the non-painted items if desired. The striping \n\t\twas done by Holt Design.\n\tNot included: engine, gearbox, electrics, seat.\n\nThis is a clean and tidy project. The project was terminated due to lack of\n\ttime and the R69(35hp) engine that was to be used was transferred \n\tto another project. I would prefer to sell the package as whole.\n\tI am negotiable as to what can be included in the package, I will\n\tnot separate any of the painted items. I am willing to take \/2\n\tspares in trade. ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nFrom the description I've read, it's prob. only going to be\nas bright as Jupiter. Anything else is probably hype from the\nopponents or wishful thinking from the sponsors.\n\nIf we could do something as bright as the full moon that soon,\nthat cheap, the CIS would have done it already.\n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"CASIO\/B.O.S.S. SF-8000 Organizer (64K) with CasioLink Hardware\/Software\n\nNice personal organizer that is in excellent shape.  It allows you to\nstore phone numbers\/addresses (do searches, etc), business cards info,\nschedules, and calender and also provides home\/work time and calculator.\nAlso has password protection and alarms.  Nice 6 line LCD screen and\nmini QWERTY keyboard.  Comes with CasioLink that lets you interface it with\nyour computer (Mac\/IBM) and transmit\/receive data (all forms).  I have\nthe software for the macintosh that runs it.  Nifty tool for people on the\ngo.  If you are interested, please email an offer.  Thanks. I have \nnecessary instruction manuals and all cables.  Thanks.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I recently corrected the resolution on my Sparcstation by changing\n\/usr\/lib\/X11\/xdm\/Xservers from:\n:0 local \/usr\/bin\/X11\/X :0 -ar1 500 -dpi 100\nto:\n:0 local \/usr\/bin\/X11\/X :0 -ar1 500 -dpi 85\n\nI determined that my 19\" 1152x900 monitor was 85 dpi by measuring the\nactive screen area and dividing by resolution.\n\nHowever, this has caused my application fonts to behave strangely.\nAfter some research, I believe this is caused by my applications\nrequesting fonts by Family, Weight, Slant, and Pointsize.  I believe\nthat X is grabbing the first font on the path with these characteristics\nand displaying it.  Since I have only 75dpi and 100dpi fonts on my\npath, the results are inaccurate.  I do have some Speedo fonts, but\nnot for the family I am using (Helvetica).\n\nI think this is incorrect.  The fonts should always be provided in the\nresolution of the display.  This never seems to happen unless you\nexplicitly request fonts by xres and yres!  This is true of both the\nscaleable and bitmapped fonts!  For instance, the command\n\nxfd -fn '-bitstream-charter-*-*-*-*-*-240-*-*-*-*-*-*'\n\nWill invoke a 75dpi font (despite the fact that this is a Speedo font).\n\nThe command  \n\nxfd -fn '-adobe-courier-*-*-*-*-*-240-*-*-*-*-*-*'\n\nWill invoke a 75dpi font or a 100dpi font (depending on my font path).\nDespite the fact that X knows my display is 85 dpi, and that it can\ngenerate an 85dpi font for me!  Unless I my applications specifies a\nresolution, X appears to pick a stupid default.\n\nIs this a bug?  Is it a feature?  If so, why?  Is there anything I can\ndo to get around this problem?  People have suggested that I lie about\nmy resolution, and specify a single font path (75 or 100, not both).\nThis would at least make my app consistent, but I like being able to\nlook at rulers that appear in my paint application and say: \"Yup, thats\nan inch\".  Anyone have a set of 85dpi bitmapped fonts I can use?\n\nSystem info:\nSun Sparc 10\/41 w\/32 MB, SunOS 4.1.3.\n\nxdpyinfo:\nversion number:    11.0\nvendor string:    MIT X Consortium\nvendor release number:    5000\nscreen #0:\n  dimensions:    1152x900 pixels (348x272 millimeters)\n  resolution:    85x85 dots per inch\n\nxset q font path:\n  \/usr\/lib\/X11\/fonts\/misc\/,\/usr\/lib\/X11\/fonts\/Speedo\/,\/usr\/lib\/X11\/fonts\/100dpi\/,\/usr\/lib\/X11\/fonts\/75dpi\/\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"How can I find these files and graphics that people\nare downloading from their Unix systems? Then, how\ndo I download them? I am a complete beginner in\nthis (obviously), so please baby-step me through\nthe process. First of all, I don't see amongst\nthese newsgroups where there is anything remotely\nlike a GIF, TIF, or compiled shareware program?\n\nThanks in advance for any information you can\ngive me. (I know there is a Unix command, \"ftp,\"\nthat will allow me to do this, but first I\nneed to know where to go to find the file\nI want download via ftp, etc.\n\nThomas Helke\negret@wet.UUCP ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Hello networld!\n\nI'm looking for documentation\/books on parametric drafting.\n\nDoes anyone know of such material, electronic on a Gopher\/ftp-site\nor books\/authors.\n\nIm not looking for commercial software rather info on implementation \nand theory of the subject. Im planning to make a parametric\ngenerator for autocad and i would need some referance.\n\nEverything you know is of interest!\n\nThanks in advace!!\n\n\/\/Lasse\n\n\n\n\n-- ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nOf course,  they then  turn up the REverb, the Gain,  add in the analog\ndelay line  and the Fuzz box.  I'd think they wouldn't notice the\ndistortion.   Oh I forgot the phase shifters.\n\n\n\nAh,  but how do they compare to Mechanical systems :-)","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I bought a StyleWriter II a couple months ago, and lately, when I print\nsomething, I notice white lines or \"gaps\" running through the line being\nprinted.  It's almost like the paper is advancing a smidge too far when\nadvancing lines.  \n\nI replaced the ink cartridge thinking it might be the problem, but the lines\nare still there.  Has anyone else noticed this problem?  What's the best way to\nget rid of it?\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"From article <kOu2rAIJBh107h@axion.UUCP>, by wefiii@axion.UUCP (Warren E. Fridy III):\n                                        =====\n                              Now isn't that just amazing?? :)\n\nSeriously, add program manager to your startup group and define a\nshortcut for it. Works.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nDave - you might like to read a book by Florence Bulle \"God\nWants You Rich & Other Enticing Doctrines\", which discusses\nOOBEs in one of her chapters.\n\nIn the Bible we have examples of men caught up in the Spirit (eg\nEzekiel, Paul). I believe that also this experience is\ncounterfeited by Satan - so that for example yoga and other\neastern medatitive techniques can be used to induce the soul to\nleave the body and float off. Someone tried to sell me a book in\nLos Angeles airport entitled \"Easy Journeys to Other Planets\"\nwhich uses such techniques.\n\nThe occultic trance of a medium sometimes involves such body\ndeparture - the book \"The Challanging Counterfeit\", about a\nformer medium who gets saved, tells how the author, on his last\ntrance, was attacked by evil spirits who tried to kill him\nwhile returning to his body at the end of the seance\nbecause of his interest in Christianity and how he was supernaturally\nprotected by the Lord.\n\nThere may be some similarities in mind-altering drugs and the\nphenomena of 'tripping'.\n\nAs regards the connection between body and soul, there is an\ninteresting verse in Ecclesiastes. In a passage talking about\nold age, the preacher writes \"Then man goes to his eternal home\nand mourners go about the streets. Remember Him--before the\nsilver cord is severed.\" (12.5-6) My understanding of this\nsilver cord is that it is something that attaches body and soul\nin a manner somewhat similar to an umbilical cord or an\nastronaut's air-line to his spaceship.\nWhen a person goes out of body this silver cord still attaches\nthe soul whereever it goes - and is vulnerable to being broken:\nastral projection can be dangerous! Bulle, I think, reports a\ncase of a yogi off on an OOBE who was found dead in his\napartment, with no apparent external cause.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThat depends on how this verse is read.  There are at least two\nmeanings of the word \"once\".  1) only one time, and 2) at some\nother time (i.e. once upon a time).  Note that in the previous\nverse, the word \"once\" is used with the second meaning, and also\nin the following verse, \"once\" is again used with the second meaning.\nThe Greek, I am sure, uses different words for each of the two meanings\nfor the English word \"once\".  I am not a Greek scholar, but I'm sure\nsomeone here can verify which Greek word is used here for this meaning.\nIf the second meaning is being used, that verse can be interpreted as:\n\n  - for it was once given for men to die (beginning with Adam), but \n    after this [gift of atonement offered by Jesus Christ] the judgement\n    [is made available], for now there is no longer death, but life\n    with Christ.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nThis must be the standard strategy that is taught, cuz that's what they told\nme to do in my Illinois MSF class. It works well, only you don't get the\nsatisfaction of kicking the shit out of some rabid hell-beast.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
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{"text":"Many (all?) XT drive controllers have their own BIOS on board to handle low-\nlevel formatting.  The BIOS also allows you to set up the drive properly\n(# of cylinders\/heads\/etc).","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"    |                                                                  \n    | > Mary at that time appeared to a girl named Bernadette at       \n    | > Lourdes.  She referred to herself as the Immaculate Conception.\n    | > Since a nine year old would have no way of knowing about the   \n    | > doctrine, the apparition was deemed to be true and it sealed   \n    | > the case for the doctrine.                                     \n    |Bernadette was 14 years old when she had her visions, in 1858,    \n    |four years after the dogma had been officially proclaimed by the  \n    |Pope.                                                             \n    |                                                                  \n    | Yours,                                                           \n    | James Kiefer\n\nI forgot exactly what her age was but I remember clearly\nthat she was born in a family of poverty and she did not\nhave any education, whatsoever, at the age of the apparitions.\nShe suffered from asthma at that age and she and her family were\nliving in an abandoned prison cell of some sort.\n\nShe had to ask the 'Lady' several times in her apparitions about \nwhat her name was since her confessor priest asked her to do so.  \nFor several instances, the priest did not get an answer since \nBernadette did not receive any.  One time, after several apparitions\npassed, The Lady finally said, \"I am the Immaculate Conception\".\nSo, Bernadette, was so happy and repeated these words over and\nover in her mind so as not to forget it before she told the\npriest who was asking.  So, when she told the priest, the\npriest was shocked and asked Bernadette, \"Do you know what\nyou are talking about?\".  Bernadette did not know what exactly\nit meant but she was just too happy to have the answer for\nthe priest.  The priest continued with, \"How did you remember\nthis if you do not know?\".  Bernadette answered honestly that\nshe had to repeat it over and over in her mind while on her\nway to the priest...\n\nThe priest knew about the dogma being four years old then.\nBut Bernadette did not know and yet she had the answer which\nthe priest finally observed and took as proof of an authentic\npersonal revelation of Our Lady to Bernadette.\n\n(Note: This Lady of Lourdes shrine has a spring of water which\nour lady requested Bernadette to dig up herself with her\nbare hands in front of pilgrims.  At the start little\nwater flowed but after several years there is more water \nflowing.)","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n  An interesting note ... I have absolutely no recollection who was on my team.\n  I picked all my players about 2 weeks before the start of the season, and\n  then never touched the roster again.  I got wrapped up in my own \"money\" pool\n  and decided not to get involved at all with the USENET pool (sorry Andrew\n  btw).  The only thing I remember about my team is that I had Joe Sacco and\n  maybe John MacLean.  Maybe Francis and Kevin Stevens as well.  Out of\n  curiousity I checked the final standings today on r.s.h., only to find to my\n  amazement that with absolutely no input, the initial team still managed to\n  finsh 79th!  I'm not sure what that implies for those who finished below me\n  :)\n\n  Ciao.\n  Brad Gibson\n\n-- \n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n  Brad K. Gibson                           INTERNET: gibson@geop.ubc.ca\n  Dept. of Geophysics & Astronomy         \n  #129-2219 Main Mall                      PHONE: (604)822-6722\n  University of British Columbia           FAX:   (604)822-6047\n  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada\n  V6T 1Z4","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\tI'm trying to install WordPerfect 5.2 for windows on my computer.  I'm\nrunning a 386sx25 w\/ 2meg ram and a 4meg virtual mem setting for windows.  I\nkeep getting errors when I try to run WP52.  It tells me that I don't have\nenough memory or disk space (since I have 47megs free on the HD, I'm assuming\nthat I don't have enough memory).  Can anyone tell me what it takes to run\nthis beast?  Thanks.\n   ___________________________                                                 \n  \/___________________________)\n  |    >> Stealth Dave >>    \/      [@@@>    DESTILL@MTU.EDU\n  |__       ________________\/\n   \/ ***** \/ (  \/         If you are caught using this address, internet\n  \/ ***** \/____\/          will deny any responsibility of its use.  This\n \/ ***** \/                E-Mail will self-destruct in 10 seconds...\n\/_______\/\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nHost swdsrv.edvz.univie.ac.at\n\n    Location: \/pc\/dos\/graphics\n           FILE -rw-r--r--      21525  Mar  7 18:00  uvesa31.zip\n\nHost plaza.aarnet.edu.au\n\n    Location: \/micros\/pc\/garbo\/pc\/screen\n           FILE -r--r--r--      21795  Apr  4 00:00  uvesa31.zip\n    Location: \/micros\/pc\/oak\/graphics\n           FILE -r--r--r--      21525  Mar  7 19:00  uvesa31.zip\n\nHost godzilla.cgl.rmit.oz.au\n\n    Location: \/kjb\/MGL\n           FILE -rw-r--r--      22887  Mar 29 15:03  uvesa32.zip\n\nHost nic.switch.ch\n\n    Location: \/mirror\/msdos\/graphics\n           FILE -rw-rw-r--      21525  Mar  7 20:00  uvesa31.zip\n    Location: \/software\/pc\/simtel20\/graphics\n           FILE -rw-rw-r--      21525  Mar  7 20:00  uvesa31.zip\n\nHost ipc1.rvs.uni-hannover.de\n\n    Location: \/pub\/msdos-koeln\/graphics\/egavga\n           FILE -rw-r--r--      21525  Apr  4 17:08  uvesa31.zip\n\nHost sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de\n\n    Location: \/pub\/msdos\/simtel\/graphics\n           FILE -rw-rw-r--      21525  Mar  7 19:00  uvesa31.zip\n\nHost athene.uni-paderborn.de\n\n    Location: \/pcsoft\/msdos\/graphics\n           FILE -rw-r--r--      21525  Mar  7 18:00  uvesa31.zip\n\nHost compute1.cc.ncsu.edu\n\n    Location: \/mirrors\/wustl\/mirrors\/msdos\/graphics\n           FILE -rw-r--r--      21525  Mar  7 19:00  uvesa31.zip\n\nHost rigel.acs.oakland.edu\n\n    Location: \/pub\/msdos\/graphics\n           FILE -rw-r--r--      21525  Mar  7 19:00  uvesa31.zip\n\nHost pc.usl.edu\n\n    Location: \/pub\/msdos\/video.and.graphics\n           FILE -rw-r--r--      21525  Mar 11 10:41  uvesa31.zip\n\nHost isfs.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp\n\n    Location: \/mirrors\/simtel20.msdos\/graphics\n           FILE -rw-rw-r--      11425  Mar 13 16:41  uvesa10.zip\n           FILE -rw-rw-r--      21525  Mar  8 12:00  uvesa31.zip\n\nHost ftp.uu.net\n\n    Location: \/systems\/ibmpc\/msdos\/simtel20\/graphics\n           FILE -rw-rw-r--      21525  Mar  7 14:00  uvesa31.zip\n-- ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n[The only reason for the death penalty is revenge?? If you are going to\ntry to refute a position, try to refute the whole position or acknosledge\nthat you are only speaking to small piece of the problem. Broad sweeping\n\"the only reason, \" etc on as tough nut to crack as the death penalty\nreallly doesn't help much.\n\nEvery year the FBI releases crime stats showing an overwhelming amount of\ncrime is committed by repeat offenders. People are killed by folks who\nhave killed (who knows how many times) before. How aobut folks who are for\nthe death penalty, not for revenge, but to cut down on recidivism?]","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nBetter, I think, is our right peacably to assemble.  I have a right to meet\nyou in a park and talk privately.  I have a right to see if anyone is\nnearby, listening.\n\nIn cyberspace, cryptography gives us a right to assemble with control over\nwho overhears us.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nMatching the Makarov offer was the only real mistake Dave King has made this\nyear. I have to wonder about the intelligence of signing a 33-year old who\nis obviously on the downside of his career to a 4-year $2 million contract. \nRisebrough matched the offer on King's request and Makarov has spent the last\nquarter of the season in the press box because his work ethic just plain\nstinks. Not to mention that he's lost a step and can no longer get himself\ninto position to make the nifty passes. \n\nI think Makarov will be available for free this offseason to anybody who agrees\nto pay his contract. He's ineffective in Calgary, but he might be able to help\na team like San Jose, with their shortage of talent. If there's no takers, and\nMakarov doesn't show improvement in training camp, I think the Flames will just\nbite the bullet and buy out Makarov's contract and release him. With his\ncurrent attitude, he is a detriment to the team.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nI heard somewhere (can't name the source) that TEMPEST does not necessarily\npick-up just CRTs, but it can pick up emissions from almost any chip.  If\nthat is true, the kind monitor would not make any difference becuase everything\non the screen can be picked-up from the video controller.  Can anybody verify\nor refute this?","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nAnd not the only quality Mariner pitcher.  I logged on expecting to see\nat least ONE congratulatory note for Chris Bosio's NO HITTER, but nary\na peep.  \n\nSo I'll take this opportunity to note that the red feet are now 11-5 and\nslinking out of town without having scored a run in the last two games\nor even a hit in last night's gem.  \n\nNot that we M's fans can compare our suffering to those of the followers\nof New England's long-running tragedy, but only one winning season in\nhistory is something of a burden to bear.  So we'll take our joys when\nwe can get 'em.  \n\nThe Mariners now have two no-hit pitchers on the staff and not\ncoincidentally those pitchers beat the Red Sox in back to back games.\n\njsh","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Can someone in this net post a Yankee Schedule?\nI need this right away.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\tThis was not stated nor implied.  Try asking.\n\n\tThis is laughable.  Licenses?  Right.  So then I would need a\n\tlicense to possess chlorine gas?  It is a weapons grade poison.\n\tWould I be breaking the law then if I were to, say, pour Chlorox\n\ton the spot where my cat pissed on the floor?  The reaction of\n\tammonia and bleach liberates pure chlorine gas.  Do I go to jail\n\tfor this?  Why or why not?\n\n\tWould I need a license to possess other chemical agents?  What about\n\tnicotine?  Deadly poison, and rather fast acting.  Must I now become\n\tlicensed to posess tobacco?  And what about nicotine sulphate, an even\n\tdeadlier poison?  Will I need a license to possess this type of \n\tinsecticide?  What about Raid(tm)?  Black Flag?  Gasoline?  Benzene?\n\tHydrazine (a violent poison)?\n\n\tWill I go to jail for possessing a can of tomatoes that went bad with\n\tbotulinus?\n\n\tWhat about my mom & pop QC lab where I use cyanogen bromide (mustard\n\tgas) to do lot analysis on certain non-prescription pharmaceuticals?\n\n\tWhat if I wish to use potassium cyanide to recover gold from aqua\n\tregia?  A license? \n\n\tWould I need a license to possess Beryllium, perhaps the most poisonous\n\tnon-radioactive metal?  How about Beryllium-Copper alloy?\n\n\tDo I need a license for nitrate fertilizers which *could* be used to\n\tmake VERY powerful explosive devices such as the one that the IRA\n\trecently detonated, killing 1 and injuring 45?\n\n\tCan I have vinegar without license?  Hydrogen peroxide?  Where is the \n\tline drawn?    \n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I had ankle reconstruction (grafting the extensor digitorum\nlongus to the lateral side of the ankle, along with a video\narthroscopy of the ankle (interesting to watch, to say the\nleast). Since then, I have had periodic muscle spasms (not\ncramping, but twitching that is very fast) in some of the\nmuscle groups along the lateral side, and along the top of\nmy foot. \n\nTX with quinine sulfate produced ringing in my ears, but did\nhelp with the spasms.\n\nI am on flexeril now, but no discernable help with the spasms.\n\nAny ideas?\n\nOne thing - I am in a short leg cast, so heat is not the answer.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Is there a hot-key for the Windows 3.1 screen saver utility?  If not, is\nthere an easy way to create one?  The reason that I need one is that my\ndad's company is anal retentive about leaving a computer while the\ninformation can be accessed so the employees are not allowed to walk away\nfrom the computer until the screen saver kicks in (as if that is terribly\nsecure).  Also, the system manager won't let any software be added so \nanother program such as LOCK32.ZIP from cica or a different screen saver\nis out.\n\nThanks for any and all help.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Is there any judgement call on the part of the scorer for sac fly RBI's?\nThis is the situation that brought the question up:\n\nThe Red Sox were up in the bottom of the 9th by a score of 5-1.  The Mariners\nhad the bases loaded with 1 out.  The batter hits a fly to center, which the\nfielder catches.  The runner at third tags and scores without a throw.  \n\nNow, without a judgement call (and I don't think there is one), this is an RBI\nfor the batter.  It seems to me that a better name for this would be \"defensive\nindifference\", since it doesn't really matter whether the guy at third scores\nat that point.  (I know, I can think of several \"If the Mariners stole third\nand second, which opening the base would allow, and then the batter hit a\ngrounder which the third baseman gets deep in the hole between himself and\nthird, he wouldn't have a play at home, third, or second for the out, and\nmaybe he therefore can't make the throw to first to get the last out, etc...\nscenarios, too.  But does it _really_ matter if this guy scores this way when\nyou're down by 4?  If the tying run is going to score, so is the guy on third.)\n\nThe point is that the batter (IMO) shouldn't get \"credit\" (an RBI) for utterly\nfailing to do his job - which at this point is to get a hit or a walk, not\ntrade an out for one run.  What do you guys think?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I am looking for a means to add FLI and FLC animation creation\nto a Windows application.  I was hoping for something along the lines\nof AAWIN or AAPLAY by Autodesk but for the creation of these delta \ncompressed animations.  I have FLILIB but this seems to be coded for \nthe Large memory model of DOS with Turbo C. Ideally I would\nlike a DLL or Medium model object library, but would settle\nfor anything, really.  I've seen other Windows apps with\nFLI\/FLC creation, did they hack the FLILIB code into submission?\n\nAny pointers would be appreciated, please send mail directly\nto me and I will summarize the results if there is interest.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nEDTA(chelation therapy) has been used by some physicians to try to remove \ncalcium from calcified plaques in the arterial system(not approved for such \nuse).  There is also the possibility that lung tissue in patients with lung \ndisease has become calcified(chest x-rays would show this).  There are side\n-effects to the use of EDTA because it is not specific for calcium(it also \nbinds other minerals).  I think that there have been some deaths when \nEDTA chelation therapy has been used because of mineral imbalances that \nwere not detected and corrected.  In animal studies, the best way to remove \ncalcium from plaques in rabbits was to supplement the rabbits with vitamin C \nand magnesium(rabbits already synthesize their own vitamin C, the extra \nvitamin C was given in their diets to help the magnesium displace the calcium \nfrom the plaques).\n\nThe calcification process that occurs in both plaques and the lung probably \ncan be prevented if magnesium is used in supplemental form.  Most patietns \nwith calcium deposits are found to be deficient in calcium.\n\n\t1. \"Magnesium interrationships in ischemic heart disease: A review\"\n\t   Am J Clin Nutr 27(1):59-79(1974).  Supplementation with \n\t   magnesium will prevent clacification of blood vessels. \n\n\t2. \"The importance of magnesium deficiency in cardiovascular \n\t    disease\" Am. Heart J 94:649-57(1977).  The need to measure the \n\t    serum concentration in all patients with heat disease cannot be \n\t    overemphasized.  This is a review article.\n\n\t3. \"Effect of dietary magnesium on development of atherosclerosis \n\t   in cholesterol-fed rabbits\" Atherosclerosis 10:732-7(1990).  \n\t   Magnesium supplementation greatly decreased the formation of \n\t   plaques in rabbits feed a diet that had 1% by weight cholesterrol \n\t   added to their normal food.\n\nSince EDTA will also bind magnesium, I've never really liked it's use for \nthe reversal of athersclerosis or now apparently in emphesema patients.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Hi.  One of my coworkers is having a very odd problem.  His mouse\nworks fine in DOS applications, if you load them from the C: prompt.\nUnder Windows, the mouse pointer is present, but does not move.  Even\nif you load a DOS app under Windows, the mouse doesn't work.\n\n  The computer is a Zeos 386SX-20 w\/Diamond Speedstar VGA running MS\nDOS 5.0 and Windows 3.1.  Mouse driver is Microsoft's 8.2.  I've tried\nswitching the mouse from COM1 to COM2, I've tried a different mouse,\nI've reinstalled MOUSE.DRV, and I can't get the blamed thing to work.\nThe only difference between his system and mine (where the mouse works\nperfectly) is that he has an expansion card with an additional\nparallel and serial port.  Could that cause the problem? \n\n  Thanks in advance for any help.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nI think we should just let Bhagwans be Bhagwans.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
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{"text":"\nWhat is this \"Gaza\"? Are you purposely separating it from the \"West Bank\"?\nIf so, why separate the people and territories? If not, why are you just\naddressing \"Gaza\" here? \n\nBy all means, continue to list the \"etc.\" The reason I particularly\nbring this up here is that there are **many** from middle eastern\nand west asian countries. That fact in itself **adds** an important\nelement to any consideration of \"resolution\" of the Arab-Israel\nconflict.\n\n\nYou explained what \"sea\" meant with regard to the Israelis\/jews,\nplease do so in this case.\n\n\n\"Just\"? You better not ask for that because that would mean North \nAmerican tribes would be returned their lands, the pre-Islamic tribes \nwould take back their lands from the Islamic invaders, the Saxons get \nto kick the Normans out of the UK, the central and south american \ntribes get to kick the spanish descendents out of thier lands..... \nAnd, once we have returned the land to those who last possessed it, \nwe have to find out from whom **they** stole it. At some point, *every* \nculture stole the land they are on from previous occupants.\n\n\nBut wait! Now you refer to \"Palestinians\", so what happened to \"Gaza\"?\n\nAs we both know, most people would choose the third alternative. And,\nsince you have done so in the past, perhaps you would initiate things by \npresenting your vision of \"resolution\". In doing so, however, the worries\n(not paranioas, *worries*) and resonable expectations **of both**\nparties should be considered.\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"quoted for future reference...\n\n\nHe believed one of two things: 1) Sabo was more likely than Samuel\nto get a hit OR 2) that more good would be done in the long run\nby leaving Sabo in regardless of the expectation of the actual outcome.\n\nIn fact you don't know what Perez had in mind when he left Sabo in.\n\n\nIn fact, I don't think anyone is claiming that they can predict\nthe future, or any particular future event.  But we can believe\nthat certain trends are due to a cause (whether or not we have\nidentified the cause) and therefore will continue.\n\n\nI think seeing insults in other people's opinions is kind of silly.\nAfter all, Mark didn't call you a total idiot, or call your work\nstupid, he simply stated that it didn't change his opinion on the \nsubject.\n\n\nIf player A hits better on Tuesdays and always has, and Mark believes\nthat it might be an indication that he will hit on Tuesday better next\nseason as well, would you respond the same way?  At some point you\nmight admit that all variable might not be known to you (who knows\nwhat this guy does every Monday night?  Maybe he sees his sports\nshrink on Tuesday mornings, or has his Vitamin B shots Monday nights?)\n\nBut this is something that's true of one guy only.  It doesn't\nmean that there will be a meaningful correlation for the entire\nleague by days of the week, nor that there should be.  But it doesn't\nmean we can't make predictions based on that for that particular\nplayer.\n\n\nI only see a prediction for one player here.  I don't see anything\nabout ALL batters.\n\n\nThat's exactly what Mark is trying to do though.  Find hitters\nthat have these correlation and ask whether we can make predictions\nfor these hitters based on their past performance.\n\n\nHuh?  What does gambler's fallacy have to do with anything?\nWhether you can know the reason for correlation or not, you can't\ndeny that it has existent, you can only make an argument that\nyou don't think it is likely to continue to exist because you\ncan't see a reason for it to exist.\n\n\nSomeone posted recently on why negative clutch would correlate.\nThe argument along the lines of star player with L\/R splits will\nalways see an adverse condition in late innings of a close game\n(i.e. opposing manager will always bring in a AH pitcher to\nface him, where his manager will not pull him for a PH)\n\n\nWhat about you?  If the shoe fits, will you wear it with an open mind?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Being in the \"visualization\" stage of a circuit design right now,\nI was wondering what the best way to \"scale\" an AC voltage using an 8-bit\ndigital word is. I am thinking of using the common method of sending the\nword through an ADC and then comparing it with the AC voltage (converted\nto a sawtooth wave) to get a duty cycle. However, I am leary of this\nmethod because it a) requires a lot of parts, and, more importantly, b)\ncreates a lot of interference from the switching on the entire AC line. I\nrealize that correct filtering could cancel out most of this interference,\nbut that would require more parts and boost the price further.\n\tSomeone mentioned to me that they had seen an IC which input 8\nbits of data and DIRECTLY scaled the AC voltage coming in all on-chip.\nUnfortunately, he couldn't remember the chip number or the manufacturer;\nif anyone else has heard of this chip, please e-mail me.\n\tI am building this project as a \"dimmer box\" for a light\ncontroller circuit and it is important that the cost of each box remains\nvery low because one dimmer is required for each light that the user\nwishes to control (well, each channel, at least). Therefor, if each box\ncosts $150, I doubt that an end user will want to dish out ($150 x 16 =\n$2400) for sixteen channels... This is something I have noticed about\ntoday's dimmer boxes; they are so expensive!\n\tAnyway, any help which someone could offer on either a method of\neasily doing this or info about the chip which will do it for me (always\nthe preferred method... :) will be greatly appreciated!","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nDon't be silly.\n\nUsing the Sound Manager on a Quadra is very well, but using SM on\nany of the low-end machines doesn't simply work for a decent action\ngame since it just steals too much time from the CPU. This is\na fact. By writing directly to the hardware on an SE, it is\npossible to have 4 simultaneous channels of sampled sound (11kHz) for\na cost of approx. 8000 cycles. Exactly how would you do that using\nthe SM, pray tell?\n\nThe correct thing to do is to use the SM on the machines that can\ncarry that extra load using the SM means, and to write directly\nto the sound hardware on the machines that can't. It's not the\npolitically correct thing, but from the developers' point of\nview it is.\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"What are those other objects?  UFOs????\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Unfortonately, that truly is about the best summation of the research\nthat there is.  Advantages stated of circumcison included probably\nprevention of penile cancer, (which, interestingly, occurs mostly in men\nwhose personal hygiene is exceptionally poor), simplicity of personal\nhygiene, prevention of urinary tract infections, and prevention of\na unretractible foreskin,  Disadvantages include infection from the \nprocedure, pain, etc.  I apologize; I am trying to pull this off\nthe top of my head.  I will post what I discovered in research; I did\na paper on the topic in my research class in Nursing school.\nIt really is a decision that is up to the parents.  Some parents use\nthe reasoning that they will \"look like Daddy\" and like their friends\nas justification.  There is nothing wrong with this; just be sure it is\nwhat you want to do, since it is rather difficult to uncircumcise\na male, although a major surgical procedure exists.\n\nAs long as your membranes have not broken and you have not had any\nproblems with your pregnancy, it should be OK to sit in a tub of water.\nHOWEVER, I WOULD RECOMMEND USING YOUR OWN BATHTUB IN YOUR OWN HOME!\nIt is nearly impossible to guarantee the cleanliness and safety of \"public\"\nhot tubs.  A nice warm bath can be very relaxing, especially if your back\nis killing you!  And it would possibly be advisable to avoid bubble bath\nsoap , esp. if you are prone to yeast infection.\n\nHope these tips help you some.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"For Sale I have 4 (Four) 1 Meg SIMMS (100ns) for the Macintosh.\nIf you want to upgrade that Mac IIsi, IIci, or whatever.\nEmail your offer.  Thanks.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n[discussion of pros and cons deleted]\n\n\nCould someone give me the references to the LLNL proposal?  I've been meaning\nto track it down in conjuntion with something I'm working on.  It's not \ndirectly related to space stations, but I think many of the principles will \ncarry over.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I need to know the jumper settings for master and\/or slave operation on\na Maxtor 7080AT (80MB IDE) hard disk.\n\nThanks in advance.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nOops, I didn't get the signal processing right (thats what I get from doing\nthe work on an ascii terminal). Here is the fixed patch:\n\n*** 1.1\t1993\/04\/28 06:05:03\n--- Imakefile\t1993\/04\/28 08:20:35\n***************\n*** 209,215 ****\n  OBJS4=\txcmap.o\n  \n  PROGRAMS= xv bggen vdcomp xcmap\n! \n  \n  #if defined(HaveJpeg) || defined(HaveTiff)\n  #  ifdef HaveJpeg\n--- 209,218 ----\n  OBJS4=\txcmap.o\n  \n  PROGRAMS= xv bggen vdcomp xcmap\n! all::\n! \t@echo \"\"\n! \t@echo \"  Did you remember to 'make depend' first?\"\n! \t@echo \"\"\n  \n  #if defined(HaveJpeg) || defined(HaveTiff)\n  #  ifdef HaveJpeg\n***************\n*** 222,238 ****\n       SUBDIRS = tiff\n  #  endif\n  #  define PassCDebugFlags\n     MakeSubdirs($(SUBDIRS))\n-    DependSubdirs($(DUBDIRS))\n  #endif\n  \n  \n  all::\n- \t@echo \"\"\n- \t@echo \"  Did you remember to 'make depend' first?\"\n- \t@echo \"\"\n- \n- all::\n  \t@echo \"  building xv ...\"\n  \t@echo \"\"\n  \n--- 225,236 ----\n       SUBDIRS = tiff\n  #  endif\n  #  define PassCDebugFlags\n+ #  define IHaveSubdirs\n     MakeSubdirs($(SUBDIRS))\n  #endif\n  \n  \n  all::\n  \t@echo \"  building xv ...\"\n  \t@echo \"\"\n  \n***************\n*** 259,267 ****\n  \n  \n  SRCS = $(SRCS1) $(SRCS2) $(SRCS3) $(SRCS4)\n- DependTarget()\n    \n  AllTarget($(PROGRAMS))\n  \n  NormalProgramTarget(xv,$(OBJS1),$(DEPLIBS),$(LOCAL_LIBRARIES),)\n  NormalProgramTarget(bggen,$(OBJS2),$(DEPLIBS),$(LOCAL_LIBRARIES),)\n--- 257,269 ----\n  \n  \n  SRCS = $(SRCS1) $(SRCS2) $(SRCS3) $(SRCS4)\n    \n+ \n  AllTarget($(PROGRAMS))\n+ DependTarget()\n+ #ifdef IHaveSubdirs\n+    DependSubdirs($(SUBDIRS))\n+ #endif\n  \n  NormalProgramTarget(xv,$(OBJS1),$(DEPLIBS),$(LOCAL_LIBRARIES),)\n  NormalProgramTarget(bggen,$(OBJS2),$(DEPLIBS),$(LOCAL_LIBRARIES),)\n*** 1.1\t1993\/04\/28 06:09:50\n--- xcmap.c\t1993\/04\/28 07:09:03\n***************\n*** 9,15 ****\n--- 9,19 ----\n  \n  \/* include files *\/\n  #include <stdio.h>\n+ #if defined(sun) && defined(SYSV)\n+ #include <string.h>\n+ #else\n  #include <strings.h>\n+ #endif\n  #include <ctype.h>\n  \n  #include <X11\/Xos.h>\n*** 1.1\t1993\/04\/28 08:33:13\n--- xv.h\t1993\/04\/28 17:47:38\n***************\n*** 284,292 ****\n--- 284,298 ----\n  \n  \n  \/* signal macros *\/\n+ #if defined(sun) && defined(SYSV)\n+ #define HOLD_SIG         sighold(SIGALRM)\n+ #define RELEASE_SIG      sigrelse(SIGALRM)\n+ #define PAUSE_SIG        sigpause(SIGALRM)\n+ #else\n  #define HOLD_SIG         sigblock(sigmask(SIGALRM))\n  #define RELEASE_SIG      sigblock(0)\n  #define PAUSE_SIG        sigpause(0)\n+ #endif\n  \n  \n  \/* default for most folks *\/\n***************\n*** 318,323 ****\n--- 324,333 ----\n  #define random  rand\n  #define srandom srand\n  #endif\n+ #if defined(sun) && defined(SYSV)\n+ #define random() rand()\n+ #define srandom(x) srand(x)\n+ #endif\n  \n  \n  \n*** 1.1\t1993\/04\/28 06:17:41\n--- tiff\/Imakefile\t1993\/04\/28 08:53:34\n***************\n*** 49,59 ****\n--- 49,69 ----\n  \n  tif_compress.o: Imakefile\n  \n+ #if HasGcc\n  g3states.h: mkg3states.c t4.h\n          -${RM} g3states.h\n+ \t${CC} -traditional -o mkg3states ${CFLAGS} mkg3states.c\n+         .\/mkg3states > g3states.h || rm g3states.h\n+ #else\n+ g3states.h: mkg3states.c t4.h\n+         -${RM} g3states.h\n          ${CC} -o mkg3states ${CFLAGS} mkg3states.c\n          .\/mkg3states > g3states.h || rm g3states.h\n+ #endif\n  \n  depend:: g3states.h","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I have been looking around some Ftp sites and cannot find one with any good\nGIF files. Could someone please tell me of some Ftp sites which do posses\ngoods GIFS and a wide range.\n\nPlease EMAIL me at the address above.\n\nThanks","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nI opened the file with a text editor and it looks like:\n\n^Vnetwork storyboardpictPICT8BIM^E^......\n\nI have already tried BinHex which does not seem to work. \nAny other ideas?\n\n-- \n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n    This is something I asked before, but I don't think I got an answer, or\nmaybe I lost the answer, or maybe it's just an obvious question (:->). Will \nthe GX stuff (on-line docs etc.) be available on the DEVELOP CDs, or will it \nonly go out to people in the Developer's program and such? Just curious.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI agree, I saw no reason they could not have had \"close in\" pool\ncameras manned by volunteers and protected by sandbags or whatever.\n\n[Points made by Dick DeGueran, Koresh's lawyer]\n\nOkay, their word against the FBI's at this point.  See ya in court!\n\n\nDear, dear. They could have COME OUT.\n\n\nOkay, they were living in a fire hazard. That they built.\n\n\nNo crime, irrelevant either way.\n\n\nAh yes, that is exactly what I would do.  Hold Bible study. Take a nap.\nAlways a wise course of action when you're being gassed.\n\n\nI don't believe there was a \"suicide pact\".  I believe that Koresh\nwanted a fiery conflagration ... which he may not have told his followers.\nIn fact, this hypothesis is CONFIRMED by the survivors' stories.\n\n\nYes, that's right.  And once the whole compound was demolished, where\ndid they expect to go?\n\n\nThe building is being RAMMED and they are going UPSTAIRS?  That's almost\nas bad as running into a fire.\n\n\nHm, an interesting notion.  We'll see.\n\n\nMore Bible study, no doubt.  Hey, it's a *priority*.\n\n\nActually, on Friday he stated that there was no evidence either way and\nhe could not flatly contradict the federal agents' claims.  We'll know\nmore later.  In any event, it's irrelevant.\n\n\nFor six hours they were trapped?  The building was not \"destroyed\" \nimmediately.  They COULD HAVE LEFT AT ANY TIME.\n\n\nSix hours to move it away.  Or COME OUT.\n\n\nIrrelevant, anyway.  PR one way or the other, but no crime or innocence\nindicated.\n\n\nNo word on whether they were being fired back at, which is an operative\nquestion here.\n\n\nRight.  For six hours you know that a tank could come thru the wall at \nany point, and you leave a COLEMAN LANTERN BURNING.  Near BALES OF HAY.\n\n\nIt's ultimately irrelevant who \"lit\" the fire.  They had ample opportunity\nto LEAVE.\n\n\nMost charismatic leaders are extremely intelligent, actually.  They tend\nto be excellent actors and skilled manipulators.  (Ex.: Ted Bundy.)\n\n\nMedical assistance was jsut a phone call away.  Gee, all he had to do\nwas COME OUT.\n\n\nNot relevant to any crimes.\n\n\nWhile he was there.  Anyway, outsiders RARELY see abuse.  It's a secretive\nthing.  All we have to go on are the court documents in the Jewell case\nand the mistrial in California.\n\n\nEXACTLY.  By their OWN CHOICE.\n\n\nLooks like there will be several investigations, starting with Congressional\ncommittee hearings next week....\n\n\nI have NEVER judged them by their religion, but by their ACTIONS.\n\nIf they had lived a quiet, religious life as they claimed, there would\nhave been no raid, no siege, and no deaths.  Instead, they chose courses\nof action at every turn that were at the very least STUPID, if not\nIRRATIONAL.  The first was to stockpile weapons.  The second was to\nshoot federal agents.  The third was to stay inside.\n\nJust as we don't blame a cop who shoots a kid who had pointed a toy\nweapon at him, I don't think the FBI deserves blame in this case.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"It is actually simple in principle. Porous adsorbents like zeolite and\nactivated carbon can adsorb gases evaporated from the adsorbate (water\nor methanol, etc.) giving the cooling effect.  Upon being heated, the \ngas-saturated adsorbent bed will give off the gases which are then to be\ncondensed.  This forms the adsorption refrigeration cycle.  The only problem\nis that the COP is very low (0.2 -0.6).  \n\nMax\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"There are JPEG viewers that are windows based and therefore need no hardware\nspecific drivers beyond those provided in windows. I got mine from the Library\nof Congress in connection with their online exhibit of books from the Vatican\nlibrary. See a previous message in this newgroup about that.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nHi.\n\nHe needs insert the MO before FileSharing get turned on, and the only one\nthat can see the disk is the owner of the machine. (I'm not sure but seems\nthat the check \"Allow owner to see entire disk\" should be enabled too).\n\nA bad thing: you can't eject the disk until FS is turned off.\n\nHope that helps.\n\n--\nPablo A. Millan L.        |  MIS OPINIONES SON MIAS (pero te las puedo vender)\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nemail : pablo@ing.puc.cl  |  Seeds Limitada, Santiago, Chile","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"from alt.law-enforcement\n\n\n\n\n\n\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n > A Christian friend of mine once reasoned that if we were never\n > created, we could not exists. Therefore we were created, and\n > therefore there exists a Creator.\n\nI hesitate to comment on the validity of this, because I do not know\nwhat your friend meant by it. If he meant that whatever exists must\nhave been created, then he is open to the obvious retort that God\nexists, and so God must have been created.\n\nPerhaps your friend meant that we exist now but that there was a\ntime when we did not exist, and therefore something other than\nourselves must have brought us into existence. This seems plausible,\nbut an atheist might reply, \"So my parents engendered me. So what?\"\nHere your friend would have to explain why an infinite regress of\ncauses is not a satisfactory explanation. He would have some support\nfrom philosophers who are not ordinarily considered religious (Ayn\nRand, and some others who are in the tradition of Aristotle). Having\nargued for a First Cause, he would have to bridge the gap between\nsaid entity and the God of Abraham. If he merely asserts that the\nthings we observe are ultimately dependent on things radically\nunlike them, few physicists would disagree.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\nAnd my '78 CX500 too - I first thought it was the wiring diagram that didn't\nfit MY machine ;-)\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Sorry, my news reader doesn't seem to know how to copy a subject header.\nThis tracks the thread \"why people don't need strong crypto.....\"\n\nThe Atomic Energy Act of 1954 expressly forbids *thinking* about building\nnuclear devices.  While I was in grad school, a friend of mine got a \nsecurity clearance to work on the defense for the Progressive magazine.\nHe found lots of articles which were public domain *removed* from the\nlocal engineering library (Madison Wisconsin).  So the lawyers sent him\nall over the states to other libraries to show that the information in\nthe article was already public.  What pissed everyone off was a local\nunderground paper went and published the article anyway (it had been\nprecensored by the feds, that's what this was all about) so the judge\ndeclared the case moot.\n\nThe Atomic Energy Act of 1954 has never been tested in court.  From my\ndiscussions with several people familiar with the case, only 2 other\ntimes has this preemptive clause been used.  In every case the people\nsimply did what they felt like and courts tossed the cases out.\n\nFor all intents and purposes, the government *does* have precidence for\ndeclaring things classified *after* it has been published.  While I was\nworking on Star Wars this happened to me: my clearance was in the works\nand I developed a method for tracking particle beams.  It was good enough\nto classify, so I was no longer allowed to work on it.  A friend from\nCanada was in the same boat: he developed a method to compute stripping\ncross sections, but because the subject was classified *he was not allowed\nto present his own paper at a conference!*.  He later published it in an\nopen journal without problems.\n\nWhen the going gets wierd, the wierd turn pro.  The feds can do whatever\nthey want whenever they feel like it, and they will make up rules to let\nthemselves get away with it.  Since the mass media can't tell the difference\nbetween a joke and the real thing (like \"ranch appocolypse\" for the Waco\nmassacre) don't count on them to help spread the word about their loss\nof freedom.  The government *can* make strong crypto illegal.  SO WHAT?\nSince the government does not obey any of its own rules, why should we?","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":": # #The median number of sexual partners for all men 20-39 was 7.3.\n: # Don't forget that 25% had 20 or more partners....\n: Not surprising.  Remember, that study includes homosexuals as well.\n\nImplying, no so tacitly, that homosexual men are more promiscuous than\nheterosexual men.  Interesting, especially in the wake of a news report\nlast week about a group of high school seniors (heterosexual, I might\nadd) who boasted monthly conquests of up to *67* girls *each*.  It\nseems that promiscuity is not limited to homosexuals.\n\nThis is a sad fact of life: no matter what you look for -- whether it \nbe homosexual promiscuity, racial discrimination, or sexual harassment\n-- you *will* find it.  Whether or not it actually exists where you're\nlooking.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I think that _The_Transcedental_Temptation_, by Paul Kurtz, has a good\nsection on the origins of Mormonism you might want to look at.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Is there an \"official extension\" to X which allows the use of audio? Most\nof the X audio programs use system-specific ways to access the audio\ncapabilities of the computer they run on. Is there a hardware-independent\nway to do this (like the video extension XV)? Thanks for any help.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nTwo things to watch for:\nIn Germany (and I think the same holds for Sweden) only some\nof the connections can handle tone dialing, so make sure the\nphone can be set to pulse dialing.\nIn Sweden, the '0' is the first digit and all other digits\nare pushed \"down\" by one position; this makes dialing (and\nin the process converting numbers) an interesting task.\nOtherwise, it is technically no problem to connect a foreign\nphone to either the German or Swedish phone system.\nOTOH neither you nor I would ever try that, as it is of course\nillegal.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nThat operation was done by a small Jewish fraction BEFORE the state even\nexisted and, as far as I remember, was disaproved by most of the Jews.\n\nSaying that \"He was killed by the Israelis\" is plain wrong because there wasn't\n\"Israel\" at the time.\n\nAnd as far as the Jews liked the idea of having part of the land you can see\ntheir reaction to the UN resolution from 29 November,  and the Arab's reaction\ntoo  (no,  it wasn't that the Arabs danced in the streets with doznes of Jewish\nstates invading them but quite the other way around).\n\nBye,","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I am curious to known if there are any professional sports teams whose\ngames are regularly broadcast on an FM station.  The only one I am\naware of is WYSP in Philadelphia who carries the Eagles' games.\n\nIf you respond to me I will summarize for the list.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nM(--> were doomed to 4'th in the division.  I'm still not convinced the\nM(--> Sabres will win this series (I've lived in Buffalo all my life, and\nM(--> these last 10 years have been playoff Hell), but I'm just sitting\nM(--> back, crossing my fingers and hoping the offense can keep scoring\n\nHave no fear, Doug, the Bruins are toast. Statistically, only 2 teams \nin **all** the Stanley Cup series ever played have come back to win. \nAnd it couldn't have happened to a nicer team, with all the crowing \nfrom Boston fans I've had to endure over the last month. \n\nTake heart, Bruins fans. At least you finished first in the Adams \n<sinister chuckle>.\n\n- Jack\n\n * Laugh and the world thinks you're an idiot.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nThe problem was that TextField was improperly walking the string; it used\nthe character count instead of the byte count... a significan \"Oops\". \nThe problem has been fixed and the patch is included in the latest periodic\npatch from HP support services.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I'm not sure if this will help you, but the (local) interstellar\nradiation field has been measured and modeled by various groups.  If I\nremember things correctly, the models involved contributions from three\ndifferent BB sources, so there's no obvious \"temperature\" of background\nradiation in our local area.  However, the following references give the\ninterstellar radiation density as a function of wavelength, and you can\nintegrate and average in an appropriate manner to get an \"effective\"\ntemperature if you like:\n\nWitt and Johnson (1973) Astrophys. J. 181, 363 - 368\nHenry et al. (1980) Astrophys. J. 239, 859 - 866\nMathis et al. (1983) Astron. Astrophys. 128, 212 - 229\n\nAs you can see, the references are out of date, but they might get you\nstarted.\n\nHope this helps,","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I am not sure that I am supposed to post this mail here. However\nduring the last year, while I was involved in developing graphical user\ninterface (GUI) applications, I have enjoyed being personally part of this\nnews group wherin I got some interesting information which helped me in my\nwork. I am posting my resuming hoping that people working in my area would\nmake time to look at it.\n________________________________________________________________________________\n_\n\t\t\t\t\t\t304A WestGate Hall,\n\t\t\t\t\t\tISU, Ames, IA 50011.\n\t\t\t\t\t\t(515) 294 1525\n\t\t\t\t\t\tApril 29, 1992.\n\nDear Prospective Employer:\n\nI am seeking employment as a software engineer with interests in software\ndesign and development, in which I can utilize my experience in hardware, \nC & C++ programming, graphical user interface (GUI), operating systems and\ncomputer networking.\n\nI received my Bachelors of Engineering (BE) degree in Electronics\nEngineering in 1990 and a M.S. degree in Electrical Engineering in Dec 1992 \nfrom Iowa State University. Currently I am enrolled in a M.S. in Computer\nEngineering at Iowa State University.\n\nDuring my Masters program, as a research assistant since Jan 1991, I have\npublished three papers including one in the IEEE Transactions on Magnetics.\nThese papers are a reflection of the quality of my research and my ability\nto learn new concepts quickly.\n\nI have been involved in many projects involving software developments and\nhave extensive experience programming in C, C++, Fortran and Assembly Level. \nI am also familiar with operating systems like Unix, Ultrix and MS-DOS.\nI am familiar with Motif\/X programming and currently, as a research assistant,\nam involved in graphical user interface (GUI) design using the multiplatform \nGUI toolkit XVT++. My experiences also include areas such as operating systems\nand computer networks, through course work and projects. I was involved in the\nstudy of the design and development of the internals of the XINU operating\nsystem. I have also been involved in many TCP\/IP programming projects in\ncomputer networking.\n\nWhile in college I learnt the importance of clear and concise communication.\nI have also learned a lot about time management. In my M.S. program I\nhave maintained a 3.70 grade average, worked 20 hours per week and\nhave enjoyed being involved in many other extra curricular activities.\n\nMy software experiences along with my hardware background (Electronics\nEngineering) would be very helpful in my career goals as a software engineer.\nI request that my qualifications may kindly be reviewed. I would like to\nhave an interview to discuss your employment needs and my career goals. \nI am eager to hear from you soon.\n\n\nSincerely\n\nS.N. Rajesh (rajsnr@iastate.edu)\n\n...........................................................................\n\t\t\t\tRESUME\n...........................................................................\n\n\t\t\t     S. N. RAJESH\n\t\t          __________________\n\n    Work\t\t                             Residence\n305 Coover ISU,\t\t\t\t\t304A WestGate hall, ISU\nAmes, IA 50011    \t\t\t\tAmes, IA 50011\n               \t\t\t\t\t(515) 294-1525\n\n        \t      E-mail: rajsnr@iastate.edu\n\nOBJECTIVE\tTo obtain a challenging position as a Software Engineer \n\t\tinvolving software design and development, in which I can\n\t\tutilize my experience in hardware, C & C++ programming, \n\t\tgraphical user interface (GUI), operating systems and \n\t\tcomputer networking.\n\nEDUCATION\tCurrently enrolled in a M.S. in Computer Engineering, Iowa state\n\t\tUniversity, Ames, Iowa 50011.\t\n\n\t\tM.S. in Electrical Engineering, Iowa State University, Ames, \n\t\tIowa 50011 (Dec 1992)   \tGPA\tMajor: 3.8\/4.0\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\tOverall: 3.7\/4.0.\t\n\t\tThesis: Probability of Detection (POD) Models for Eddy Current\n\t\tNondestructive Evaluation (NDE) Methods. \n\t\t(Project Funded by Federal Aviation Administration (FAA))\n\n\t\tB.E. in Electronics Engineering, Bangalore University,\n \t\tBangalore, India (Jan 1990).\n\nPUBLICATIONS\tS. N. Rajesh, L. Udpa and S. S. Udpa, \"Numerical Model Based\n\t\tApproach for Estimating Probability of Detection in NDE \n\t\tapplications\", IEEE Transactions on Magnetics, Vol. 29,\n\t\tNo. 2, March 1993. \n\n\t\tS. N. Rajesh, L. Udpa and S. S. Udpa, \"Estimation of \n                Eddy Current Probability  of Detection using 3D Finite Element\n\t\tModel\", presented at the 19th Annual review of Progress in\n\t\tQuantitative Nondestructive Evaluation Conferance, San Diego,\n\t\tCalifornia (Jul 1992)\n\n\t\tS. N. Rajesh, L. Udpa, S. S. Udpa and N. Nakagawa, \"Probability\n                of Detection Models for Eddy Current NDE Methods\", Presented at\n                the 18th Annual Review of Progress in Quantitative\n                Nondestructive Evaluation Conferance, Brunswick, ME (Jul 1991)\n\nRELEVANT * Implemention of Operating Systems * Electronic Devices and Circuits\nCOURSE     * Computer Network Architecture     * Pulse and Digital Circuits\nWORK       * Advanced Computer Communications  * Artificial Neural Networks\n           * Introduction to Supercomputing    * Pattern Recognition\n           * Microprocessors and Computer      * Digital Image Processing\n\t     Organization                      * Digital Signal Processing\n           * Computer Technology and           * Integrated Circuits and Design\n\t     Programming\n\nPROJECTS\t* Implementation of the fork system call on the Xinu operating\n\t\t  system. Also involved in the implementation of a CPU\n\t\t  scheduling algorithm taking into consideration the aging\n\t\t  of processes. This project involved the study of the design\n\t\t  and development of the internals of the Xinu operating system.\n\t\t* Design and development of an interrupt driven keyboard driver.\n\t\t  This project involved a thorough understanding of device \n\t\t  drivers.\n\t\t* Design and development of a Unix like tree structured \n\t\t  directory which allows the creation of subdirectories and\n\t\t  organization of files accordingly. This project included the\n\t\t  implementation of routines such as mkdir, rmdir, cd, ls and\n\t\t  rm to support the directory structure.\n\t\t* Analysis of methods of congestion control in computer\n                  networks.\n                * Implementation of the Bellman-Ford routing algorithm for a\n                  distributed network. The communication between network nodes\n                  was based on UDP. This project involved programming in C++.\n\t\t* Simulation of the various digital logic functional units \n\t\t  starting from the basic gates to registers, counters, adders,\n\t\t  multipliers, arithmetic logic unit (ALU) and so on. The\n\t\t  project involved extensive C programming in an Unix\n\t\t  environment.\n\nWORK\t\tResearch Assistant, Center for NDE, Iowa State University, Ames,\nEXPERIENCE\tIA 50011 (Aug 1992-Present)\n                * Work involves development of applications using graphical\n                  user interface (GUI) toolkits. Familiar with programming in\n                  a Motif\/X environment. More recent work involves development\n                  of multiplatform GUI applications, in C++, using the portable\n\t\t  GUI toolkit XVT++.\n                  (This project is supported by NIST (National Institute of\n                   Standards and Technology)).\n\n\t\tResearch Assistant, Center for NDE, Iowa State University, Ames,\n\t\tIA 50011 (Jan 1991-Aug 1992)\n\t\t* Work involved developing software for modeling electromagnetic\n\t\t  NDE techniques such as the eddy current method. It also\n\t\t  involved optimization of the code on the parallel computer\n\t\t  Cray YMP.\n\t\t  (This project was supported by FAA and involved working in\n\t\t   close contact with the aircraft industry (Boeing)).\n\n\t\tTrainee Engineer, Indian Telephone Industries, Bangalore India.\n\t\t* Work involved design and development of a microprocessor\n\t\t  (8085) based programmable telephone dialler used in cordless \n\t\t  telephones. Involved programming of a 8085 microprocessor \n\t\t  to control the pulsing actions of the relays in a telephone \n\t\t  circuit (Jan-Nov 1989).\n\nCOMPUTER\tLanguages: C, C++, Fortran, Assembly Level.\nSKILLS\t\tSoftware: Motif\/X, XVT, Computer Graphics (Hoops), TCP\/IP \n\t\t\t  programming, Image Processing Utilities, SDRC-Ideas, \t\t  \t\t  Autocad.\n\t\tOperating Systems: Unix, Stellix, Ultrix, MS-DOS.\n\t\tSystems: DEC Series, HP and Sun Workstations, Macintosh, \n\t\t\t Stellar.\n\t\tParallel Systems: Cray YMP, IBM 3090J, MasPar, N-Cube.\n\nHONOURS AND \t* Iowa State University Graduate College Scholarship \nACTIVITIES     \t  (Jan 1991-Present)\n\t\t* Ranked 42 out of over 20,000 students in Bachelors of\n\t\t  Engineering Entrance Examination ensuring full\n\t\t  scholarship, from the state, to pursue my Bachelors's degree.\n\t\t* Current member of IEEE","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"On my PC I almost exclusively run windows. The only dos based application  \nI have is ProcommPlus.  In my config.sys I have emm386 loaded with the  \noption noems (no expanded memory). Following a thread in one of the comp  \nnewsgroups, I read that it was no necessary to have emm386 loaded. Indeed,  \nin the manual, it says that emm386 is used to get expanded memory out of  \nextended memory. Since I have the noems option, it seems to me that the  \nemm386 device is useless in my case. \n\nShould I use emm386 or should I remove it from my config.sys?\n\nThanks for your help,","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Here is a potentially dumb question: What prevents the martian landers\nthemselves from \"polluting\" the martian environment with earth based\ncritters? Is the long trip in cold radiation bathed space enough to\ncompletely sterilize the landers?\n\nI could imagine that a few teeny microbes could manage to get all the\nway there unharmed, and then possibly thrive given the right\ncircumstances.\n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
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{"text":"This is a reposting 'cause two of the bags are out the door, and I took\ndimensions of #1 and #5 (important to camcorder users).\n\n    1. Large padded Cordura bag (maker unknown) orange exterior, black\n\t straps and interior.  Five outside pockets plus lid compartment.\n\t Lid overlaps.  Internal dividers can be repositioned.  Held\n\t my whole 2-1\/4 Bronica system, Metz flash, etc.  Main chamber\n\t (not incl lid and pockets) is 18.5\"W x 9\"H x 7\" D.  Very\n\t strong bag, good for medium format users or videographers.\n\n    2. Small \"Nikon\" shoulder bag. SORRY.  SOLD & SHIPPED.\n\n    3. Small \"Nikon\" belt pouch.  Khaki like #2.  Similar in design to\n\t US Army ammo pouch - belt clips, etc.  Holds flash or small\n\t zoom (35-70) fixed lens, lens cleaner, etc.  $5.\n\n    4. Domke belt pouch, black.  SORRY. SOLD & SHIPPED.\n\n    5. Coast camera bag - tan with brown strap.  Main and front pocket.\n\t Can hold AF slr with small zoom plus flash, film, etc. 10.5\"H\n\t x 9.5 H x 4.5 D plus 10.5\" x 6.5 x 1.5 front pouch. It\n\t looks like Gore-Tex but I don't think it really is. $15.\n\nTERMS:  Payment in advance by money order\/bank check, or cash.  Buyer\npays shipping.  #1 should go UPS.  For the others, send me an adequate\nself addressed mailing envelope (padded recommended) with enough postage.\nPlease contact me by email if interested.\n\n   \/|\/| \/||)|\/  \/~ \/\\| |\\|)[~|)\/~   |   Everyone's entitled to MY opinion.\n  \/ | |\/ ||\\|\\  \\_|\\\/|_|\/|)[_|\\\\_|  |      goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil\n========Imagination is more important than knowledge. - Albert Einstein=======\n\n\n\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nIs this still in print or available (other than on loan)?  I remember\nreading this many years ago and it's still the best thing I remember\nin this vein.\n\n-- \n\"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live\n in the real world.\"   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"FLAME ON\n\nReading through the posts about Kirlian (whatever spelling)\nphotography I couldn't help but being slightly disgusted by the\nnarrow-minded, \"I know it all\", \"I don't believe what I can't see or\nmeasure\" attitude of many people out there.\n\nI am neither a real believer, nor a disbeliever when it comes to\nso-called \"paranormal\" stuff; but as far as I'm concerned, it is just\nas likely as the existence of, for instance, a god, which seems to be\nquite accepted in our societies - without any scientific basis.\n\nI am convinced that it is a serious mistake to close your mind to\nsomething, ANYTHING, simply because it doesn't fit your current frame\nof reference. History shows that many great people, great scientists,\nwere people who kept an open mind - and were ridiculed by sceptics.\n\nEspecially the USA should be grateful; after all, Columbus did not\ndrop off the edge of the earth.\n\nFLAME OFF, or end sermon :-)","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nWOW! Are you serious! So not everyone who calls themself a Christian is\na Christian? WOW! That does make things a bit more complicated doesn't it?\n\n\nThat seems like very good advice, given the above revelation.\n\n\nLike for example Matthew 5:14-19 right?\n\n\nUm, where did Jesus say that he wanted people to worship him?\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nI couldn't agree more.  Canada has an anti-hate law which exists to punish\nthose who wilfully spread false propaganda (lies) for the purpose of \nputting down another group.  This is actually the law that David Irving\nwill hopefully be found guilty under due to his denial of the Holocaust.\nIt's too bad that this useless \"Centre for Policy Research\" isn't in Canada.\nIt'd set a nice precedent to how the law applies in Cyberspace.\n\n  Steve\n-- ","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"One way to \"mask\" the left button check the contents of the XEvent that the\nXAddEventHandler send to your event_handling function (in your case, it is the\nshow_mouse_position function. \n\nIf the XEvent arrive in this function as \n\nXEvent p_event;\n\nthen, the value of p_event->xbutton.button is the button that was pressed. So, \nyou just do a switch on that value in order to distinguish between them. In case\nit was not clear p_event->xevent.button is an int. \n\nBy the way, you mentioned the Button1MotionMask and if anyone can help me with \nthese MotionMasks I would be grateful. I can not figure out how do distinguish\nbetween motions by which button is pressed as the motion is occurring. In \nessence I would like an seperate event-handler for motion with each button. \nUnfortunately, the XEvent sent by a MotionMask does not seem to contain the \nvalue of the pressed button.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I've got the following Lynx games for sale\/trade. Make an offer.\n\nBatman Returns\nPinball Jam\nPaperboy\nGates of Zendecon\n\n\n\n\n-- \nbrian\noplinger@ra.crd.ge.com","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nLots of debate about the virtues of Bryan Murray vs Pat Quinn as a GM\ndeleted.  Randy Graca seems to think Murray is the best GM in the league.\nI think Quinn is one of several who are better.\n\n\nWhen Quinn took over Vancouver- several years ago, NOT LAST YEAR, they \nregularily missed the playoffs.  I can't recall if they missed the playoffs\nthe year before his hiring but they probably did.  Quinn has improved the\nteam from non-playoff calibre to a serious contender.\n\nWhen Murray took over in Detroit, the were about a .500 team that was a\ncontender to win the Norris division and possibly even a Stanley Cup\ncontender.\n\nSo Quinn has improved his team more than Murray has since taking over as a GM.\nQuinn is one example of a better GM than Murray.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nIn the same way in which antisemite means anti-Jewish and not anti-all-\npersons-of-who-are-semite, a \"form of racism\" means: A form of segregation\nagainst all those who are different based on the religious identification.\n\nAAP\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"[ NOTE: talk.origins removed from crossposting, as this had no business\n  going there in the first place. ]\n\n\n\n      No, but you're not achieving anything either. If you don't want to\nargue the point you're stating, why do you bother stating it?\n\n\n      No. Read the (alt.atheism) FAQ to find out why.\n\n\n      Well enough; if I feel interested, I might even listen.\n\n\n      I won't; the task is impossible, and I don't have to do it in the\nfirst place. Why should I even bother to change or disprove your beliefs?\n\n      - Mats \"Strong apatheist?\" Andtbacka\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nPlease note that God commanded Adam to work before the fall:\n\n\"The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work\n it and take care of it.\" (Gen 2:15, NIV).  \n\nWork was God's design from the beginning.\n\n-- \nKen","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nI seem to recall Rush saying that he has a CompuServe account.  If anyone\nwants to E-mail him, all we need is his account number (i.e.: 12345,6789)\nand then we could e-mail him via gateway by using a dot instead of a comma\nlike so: \"12345.6789@compuserve.com\".  (THIS IS *NOT* HIS ADDRESS.)\n\nSo, does anyone know his e-mail address?  He *says* he uses it all the time.\n(I wonder if he reads alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...   His ego is big enough!)","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\tOkay, I went back and looked:  sure enough, my hunch was right.\n\t\n\t\t2 Peter was most likely written between 100-120 A.D.\n\t\t\n\t\tRevelation was almost certainly written between 80-96 A.D.\n\t\t\n\t\tOdds are the gospel of John was written around 90 A.D.\n\t\t\n\t\tBest dates for Luke and Acts are around 80 A.D., maybe later.\n\t\t\n\tAgain, this is from footnoted information in the New American Bible,\n\tthe best translation I've come across in regards to giving complete\n\thistorical information about each book.\n\t\t\t\t\t\t- Mike\n\t\t\t\t\t\t)","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nThe best I've seen is Visio. Runs under Windows. It's not shareware however.\n\n-----------------------------------------------------------------\nGary Williamson aka wwilliam@polaris.orl.mmc.com\n                 Orlando, Florida","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I got a sample of black reflector material, maybe from \"Conspicuity\"?\nIt is black but reflects silver if the angle of incidence is shallow.\nWhoever it was I got it from sold\/sells kits that fit BMW (and other\nbrands?) of luggage and fenders. Don't know what I did with the sample;\nthe kits seemed too expensive, as I recall.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"***********************\t\n\t\t\t   HOUSE FOR SALE BY OWNER\n\t\t\t   ***********************\n\n\n\nSelling Price:\t\t$89,900\n\nOwner:\t\t\tSteve and Joyce Harvey   Phone: (206) 254-4267\n\nAddress:\t\t3714 NE 148 ct., Vancouver, Washington 98682\n\nLegal Discrition:\tLot #14, Bush Gardens-3, recorded in Volume\n\t\t\t\"G\", of Plats Page 636 records of Clark County\n\nBuilder:\t\tTriangle Land, Built in 1975\n\nLeader:\t\t\tUS Bancorp Mortgage Co. (FHA) loan balance\n\t\t\t$36,000, 10% assumable\n\nLot size:\t\t101 ft. deep x  92 ft. wide\n\nSquare footage:\t\tImproved living area of 1,266 sq.ft. and\n\t\t\tdouble garage area of about 500 sq.ft.\n\nTaxes:\t\t\t1992 real estate taxes $826.26\n\nUtilities:\t\tWater \/ Sewer      - City of Vancouver\n\t\t\tElectric           - Clark County PUD\n\t\t\tRecycle \/ garbage  - Vancouver Sanitary\n\nInsulation:\t\tClark County PUD Weatherization completed\n\t\t\t9-28-93 by Taseca Homes\n\nSchools:\t\tEvergreen School District\n\nAccess \/ Shopping:\tNear I-205 and Vancouver Mall\n\n\nHome Discription:\t3 bedroom, 2 bath ranch with new roof, new\n\t\t\tpaint in and out, new mini blinds, sunken\n\t\t\tliving room with vaulted ceiling, corner\n\t\t\tfireplace with wood stove insert. Kitchen has\n\t\t\trefinished cabinets, new sink, new dishwasher\n\t\t\tdrop in range and refrigerator. Has ceiling\n\t\t\tfans in living room and all three bedrooms.\n\t\t\tWell lit large double garage has new steel\n\t\t\tinsulated door, work bench, shelves and space\n\t\t\tfor washer and dryer.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nEvil and good walk hand in hand.  It is also important to note that\nthe good in the tools lies in the wielder of the tools.\n\n\nI cannot accept this ridiculous leap in logic.  Technology is neutral\nto good or evil.  When technology is used by \"evil\" men, it is called\nevil technology.  When it is used by \"good\" men, it is called good\ntechnology.  Really, it is just technology that allows action to be\nrealized more efficently and on a larger scale.\n\n\nTry not to confused the development of technology with its use.\nCertainly, \"bright\" people will be better at creating technology, but\neven young children know how to program VCR machines.  Are VCR\nmachines not extremely complex to create?\n\n\nAdaptibility and flexibility is always better at enduring than the\nstiff and stubborn.  A young child is soft and supple; an old man is\nstiff and inflexible.  A dripping of water can cut through stone.\nThis has nothing to do with technology, rather technology just\nallows us to magnify action.\n\n\nI have no objection to this!  :)","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nAs an earlier post noted - through DMA.\n\n\n\nAny one time means IMHO a single byte xfer. If I have four sources of\nDMA requests ready, the DMA would service the one after the other. If\nthe bandwidth for the four together is lower than the ISA\/DMA\nbandwidth, this will work.\n\nNote that the bus mastering here is the priority mechanism in the DMA\ncontroller.\n\n--\nPenio Penev  x7423 (212)327-7423 (w) Internet: penev@venezia.rockefeller.edu","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I know that there is a list of the best shareware and public domain\nprograms for Windows at the cica ftp site, but unfortunately it is a\nyear old.  The list author made it sound like the list was going to be\nupdated every month.  Is it still being updated?  Does anyone else\ncompile a similar list?\n \nAlso are there any individual suggestions as to what the best\nshareware\/public domain programs are?  I'm interested in good software\nin just about every category (please try and include the ftp site and\nexact file name, if possible, in your post).\n\nThanks, \nSam\n\n\n--\nsiockman@leland.stanford.edu","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"FOR SALE\n\nSony 8mm camcorder model PRO V9 - top-of-the-line a few years ago.\n\t- autofocus with macro capability\n\t- 6x zoom\n\t- 5 lux rating\n\t- 360,000-pixel CCD chip, the best made for a 8mm camcorder\n\t- AV input\/output jacks (all cables included)\n\t- RF convertor\/switcher for TV without AV input\n\t- AC adaptor\/charger\n\t- 1.5A battery\n\t- neck trap\n\t- user's manual, original box, packings, etc.\n\t- mint condition\n\nList price for this model was $1600, I paid $1330 mail-order a few years\nago.  Will sacrifice for $500 or best offer.  Reason for sale: upgrade\nto Hi8 model.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nEr..yes.  If Manny Lee was on your team last year, your team would have been\nthe Toronto Blue Jays.\n\n\nAgain.  If Manny Lee was on your team last year your team would not have been\nthe Albuquerque Leftturns.  It would have been the Toronto Blue Jays.\n\n\nThat's the whole point isn't it?  Clemens didn't get a ring but Morris did.\n\n\nExactly.  And Morris was part of the team.  Would the Jays have won with \nClemens?  We will never know.  But we do know that the Jays won with Morris.\nSo how could you possibly say that Clemens had a better year?  No pitcher\nin baseball could have had a better year than Morris had last year.\n\n\n-- ","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nUntil six or seven years ago I was an enthusiastic fan of NFL football.\nLast year I hardly watched a game.  What turned me off were the\nincessant interruptions to the continuity of the game.  A team scores.\n2.5 minutes of commercials.  Kickoff.  1.5 minutes of commercials.\nThree downs and a punt.  2 minutes of commercials.  AAAAARRRRGH!\n\nEarlier in this thread I commented on LaRussa and the A's, whom I\nbelieve institutionalize slow play.  I don't mind the cat-and-mouse\ngame with Rickey on first;  in fact, I rather enjoy it.  Similarly\nI would enjoy the battle with Listach or Lofton or Polonia on first.  What\nI object to is when such games are played with Karkovice on first,\nor when the game is a blowout.  I don't mind when the pitcher steps off \nthe mound to gather his thoughts in a crucial situation, or when a hitter\nsteps out of the box to regain his concentration.  What I object to\nis when hitters and pitchers take such breaks at every opportunity.\nWhen a game is exciting, these little delays serve as tension builders\nand for me enhance the value of the experience of the game.  When the\ndelays happen with regularity, they become nuisances, just like the\ncommercial breaks in football.  \n\nI understand the NFL imposed a number of rule changes to \"speed up\"\nthe games, basically putting an onus on the officiating staff to move\nthe markers and the ball to the spots faster.  That did not address\nthe problem of the continuity of the game.  It may have appeased the\nsponsors and the networks, but I would be amazed if it did anything\nto enhance the experience of the fans.\n\nSimilary, while some 3-hour baseball games bore me to tears, those are the\nones where there is no continuity and the players are taking exasperatingly\nlong periods to get ready for each pitch.  I doubt if anyone watching\nthe Braves-Giants game cared about Gant stepping out.  I doubt if anyone\nwatching that game would have found that pause to be anything but an\nopportunity to have their complete attention claimed by the drama that\nwas present.  I would be totally opposed to any effort that would\neliminate that aspect of baseball.\n\nOn the other hand, I wish baseball had a commissioner that was powerful\nenough to sit down with Alderson\/LaRussa\/Duncan and explain that they\nare actually hurting the product of baseball by dragging their games \nout the way that they do.  I sure wouldn't mind a little arm-twisting\nthere.\n\n\n\n--\tThe Beastmaster\n\n\n\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I have a certificate for one round-trip airfares to either Acapulco or\nCancun, Mexico.\nExpiration date is one year from now.\n\nThe maximum retail value, depending on time and location, is estimated at\n$1100, including accommodation for 3 days and 2 nights at a leading\nhotel. I am asking for $1000 or best offer.\n\nFor more information, call Goh at\n\n(415) 497-0663\n\nor send mail to\n\nkmgoh@leland.stanford.edu","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Hi, all:\n    I am studying the book --> \"UNIX Desktop Guide to OPEN LOOK\".\nThere is an example --> winprop.c that demonstrate how to program\nWM_PROTOCOLS property in chapter 8.  It can run, but only show the\nstatic text messages, no Notice pop_up. What is the problem?\n\t    Thanks in advance for help!!1\t    IOP\n\/*-------------------------------------------------------------*\/\n\/*  File:  winprop.c\n *\n *  Shows how to set properties on a window.\n *\n *\/\n#include <X11\/Xatom.h>\t\/* For definition of XA_ATOM *\/\n#include <X11\/Intrinsic.h>\n#include <X11\/StringDefs.h>\n#include <Xol\/OpenLook.h>\n#include <Xol\/StaticText.h>\n#include <Xol\/OblongButt.h>\n#include <Xol\/Notice.h>\n\/* This file defines the atoms with _OL_ prefix *\/\n\/* ID of the top-level and NoticeShell widget *\/\nstatic Widget top_level, notice_shell;\nstatic Widget make_notice();\nstatic char message[] = \"Clients use properties to communicate \\\nwith the window manager. This example illustrates how an OPEN \\\nLOOK application requests notification from the window manager \\\nwhen certain events occur. The communication is in the form of \\\na ClientMessage event that the application processes in an \\\nevent-handler.\";\n\/* Atoms used for inter-client communication *\/\nAtom ATOM_WM_PROTOCOLS, ATOM_WM_DELETE_WINDOW,\n     ATOM_WM_SAVE_YOURSELF;\nstatic void handle_wm_messages();\nstatic void save_and_exit();\nstatic void save_yourself();\nstatic void pop_notice();\nstatic void do_exit();\n\/* String to hold comand line (for use in responding to\n * the WM_SAVE_YOURSELF protocol message.\n *\/\nchar saved_cmdline[128];\n\/*-------------------------------------------------------------*\/\nvoid main(argc, argv)\nint  argc;\nchar **argv;\n{\n    Widget w;\n    int i;\n\/* Save the command-line for use in responding to the\n * WM_SAVE_YOURSELF protocol message.\n *\/\n    sprintf(saved_cmdline, \"%s \", argv[0]);\n    if(argc > 1)\n\tfor(i = 1; i < argc; i++)\n\t{\n\t    strcat(saved_cmdline, argv[i]);\n\t    strcat(saved_cmdline, \" \");\n\t}\n\/* Create and initialize the top-level widget *\/\n    top_level = OlInitialize(argv[0], \"Ol_main\", NULL,\n\t\t\t       0, &argc, argv);\n\/* Create a StaticText widget *\/\n    w = XtVaCreateManagedWidget(\"Stext\",\n\t\t      staticTextWidgetClass, top_level,\n\t\t      XtNstring,    message,\n\t\t      XtNwidth,     200,\n\t\t      NULL);\n\/* Create a NoticeShell widget for later use *\/\n    make_notice(top_level);\n\/* Intern the atoms *\/\n    ATOM_WM_PROTOCOLS = XInternAtom(XtDisplay(w),\n\t\t\t\t\t\"WM_PROTOCOLS\", False);\n    ATOM_WM_DELETE_WINDOW = XInternAtom(XtDisplay(w),\n\t\t\t\t    \"WM_DELETE_WINDOW\", False);\n    ATOM_WM_SAVE_YOURSELF = XInternAtom(XtDisplay(w),\n\t\t\t\t    \"WM_SAVE_YOURSELF\", False);\n\/* Add an event-handler to process ClientMessage events sent\n * by the window manager\n *\/\n    XtAddEventHandler(top_level, NoEventMask, True,\n\t\t      handle_wm_messages, NULL);\n\/* Realize the widgets and start processing events *\/\n    XtRealizeWidget(top_level);\n\/* Append the properties WM_DELETE_WINDOW and WM_SAVE_YOURSELF\n * to the definition of the WM_PROTOCOLS property. This step\n * requires the window ID of the top-level widget. The window\n * ID is valid only after the widget is realized.\n *\/\n    XChangeProperty(XtDisplay(top_level), XtWindow(top_level),\n\t\t    ATOM_WM_PROTOCOLS, XA_ATOM, 32,\n\t\t    PropModeAppend,\n\t\t    &ATOM_WM_DELETE_WINDOW, 1);\n    XChangeProperty(XtDisplay(top_level), XtWindow(top_level),\n\t\t    ATOM_WM_PROTOCOLS, XA_ATOM, 32,\n\t\t    PropModeAppend,\n\t\t    &ATOM_WM_SAVE_YOURSELF, 1);\n    XtMainLoop();\n}\n\/*-------------------------------------------------------------*\/\nstatic void handle_wm_messages(w, client_data, p_event)\nWidget\t  w;\nXtPointer client_data;\nXEvent\t  *p_event;\n{\n    if(p_event->type == ClientMessage &&\n       p_event->xclient.message_type == ATOM_WM_PROTOCOLS)\n    {\n\tif(p_event->xclient.data.l[0] == ATOM_WM_DELETE_WINDOW)\n\t{\n\t\tsave_and_exit();\n\t}\n\tif(p_event->xclient.data.l[0] == ATOM_WM_SAVE_YOURSELF)\n\t{\n\t\tsave_yourself();\n\t}\n    }\n}\n\/*-------------------------------------------------------------*\/\nstatic void save_and_exit()\n{\n\/* Display a notice giving the user a chance to respond *\/\n    pop_notice(top_level, notice_shell);\n}\n\/*-------------------------------------------------------------*\/\nstatic void save_yourself()\n{\n\/* Set the WM_COMMAND property to the saved command-line. *\/\n    XChangeProperty(XtDisplay(top_level), XtWindow(top_level),\n\t\t    XA_WM_COMMAND, XA_STRING, 8,\n\t\t    PropModeReplace, saved_cmdline,\n\t\t    strlen(saved_cmdline) + 1);\n}\n\/*-------------------------------------------------------------*\/\nstatic Widget make_notice(parent)\nWidget parent;\n{\n    Widget w, n_text, n_control, n_exit, n_cancel;\n\/* Create a button and provide a callback to pop up a Notice *\/\n    w = XtVaCreateManagedWidget(\"QuitButton\",\n\t\t      oblongButtonWidgetClass, parent,\n\t\t      XtNlabel,    \"Exit...\",\n\t\t      NULL);\n    XtAddCallback(w, XtNselect, pop_notice, NULL);\n\/* Create the NoticeShell widget. Note that you have to use\n * XtVaCreatePopupShell instead of the usual\n * XtVaCreateManagedWidget.\n *\/\n    notice_shell = XtVaCreatePopupShell(\"QuitNotice\",\n\t\t      noticeShellWidgetClass, w,\n\t\t      NULL);\n\/* Get the ID of the text and control area widgets of the\n * NoticeShell.\n *\/\n    XtVaGetValues(notice_shell,\n\t\t  XtNtextArea,\t      &n_text,\n\t\t  XtNcontrolArea,     &n_control,\n\t\t  NULL);\n\/* Place a message in the text area of the NoticeShell *\/\n    XtVaSetValues(n_text,\n\t    XtNstring, \"Please confirm exit from program.\",\n\t    NULL);\n\/* Add buttons to the control area of the NoticeShell.\n * Each button has an appropriate callback.\n *\/\n    n_exit = XtVaCreateManagedWidget(\"NoticeExit\",\n\t\t      oblongButtonWidgetClass, n_control,\n\t\t      XtNlabel,    \"Exit\",\n\t\t      NULL);\n    XtAddCallback(n_exit, XtNselect, do_exit, NULL);\n    n_cancel = XtVaCreateManagedWidget(\"NoticeCancel\",\n\t\t      oblongButtonWidgetClass, n_control,\n\t\t      XtNlabel,    \"Cancel\",\n\t\t      XtNdefault,  True,\n\t\t      NULL);\n    return w;\n}\n\/*-------------------------------------------------------------*\/\nstatic void pop_notice(w_emanate, w_notice)\nWidget\t  w_emanate, w_notice;\n{\n    XtVaSetValues(w_notice, XtNemanateWidget, w_emanate, NULL);\n\/* Pop up the NoticeShell widget. The NoticeShell widget makes\n * sure that the aplication waits until the user selects from\n * one of the buttons in the NoticeShell's control area.\n *\/\n    XtPopup(w_notice, XtGrabExclusive);\n}\n\/*-------------------------------------------------------------*\/\nstatic void do_exit(w, call_data, client_data)\nWidget\t  w;\nXtPointer call_data, client_data;\n{\n    XCloseDisplay(XtDisplay(w));\n    exit(0);\n}\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Could someone tell me what's in a Cornell-Dubilier EMI Filter\nFIL 3363-001?\n\nIt is rated at 13A 115\/250VAC 50\/60HZ.  Is it just MOV's and ferrite?","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"n9045178@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Sean Dean) writes...\n\n[other 2 posts deleted]\n\n\nDoes anyone have Rush Limbaugh's e-mail address?  Is there anyone out there\non Compuserve who might be able to look it up or otherwise find it?\nMaybe it would be impossible, but I thought I should at least ask...","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nManny Mota.\nBilly Hatcher\nHerm Winningham.\nLonnie Smith (not light hitting, but a horror in the field)\nGary Redus\nDion James\nDaryl Boston\nVince Coleman (yeah, he's finally started to have a decent OBP)\nCecil Espy\nWillie Wilson\nGary Pettis\nMilt Thompson\nGary Varsho\n\nOK, I admit to taking a quick browse through the Major League Handbook, but\nonly after the first 7 or 8. Oh, and there's the all-time light-hitting\nblack outfielder: Lou Brock. Look it up. And Curt Flood. Cesar Geronimo.\nCesar Cedeno. \n\n\nLikewise for my list. Oh, and a prediction: Milt Cuyler.\n\n Mike Jones | AIX High-End Development | mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I'm still looking for Fractint drivers or a new release which supports the\n 24bit color mode of the Diamond Speedstar 24X.  There are some 2, 4 and 26\n million colros drivers, but none work with the 24X.  \n\nAny help would be appreciated!\n\nThanks!\n\nChad\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nNot alone at all. My old 83 Accord (now in the hands of a sibling) has a much\nbetter engagement of the clutch. Even the old 84 Civic we keep as a beater \nfeels better in this aspect. Note that these are cars with 250,000 kms and\n140,000 kms respectively. My 90 Prelude blows both of them away in every \nrespect except smooth clutch engagement. Of course the Kawasaki is the best\nof the bunch but I need more than 2 wheels most of the time.\n\nThe Prelude has had a dud clutch from day 1, and after three years and 67,000\nkms is no better. Best of luck and feel free to add this to your collection.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"#In article <1r0sn0$3r@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>\n# \n#>|>#>#Theism is strongly correlated with irrational belief in absolutes. Irrational\n#>|>#>#belief in absolutes is strongly correlated with fanatism.\n# \n#(deletion)\n# \n#>|Theism is correlated with fanaticism. I have neither said that all fanatism\n#>|is caused by theism nor that all theism leads to fanatism. The point is,\n#>|theism increases the chance of becoming a fanatic. One could of course\n#>|argue that would be fanatics tend towards theism (for example), but I just\n#>|have to loook at the times in history when theism was the dominant ideology\n#>|to invalidate that conclusion that that is the basic mechanism behind it.\n#>\n#>IMO, the influence of Stalin, or for that matter, Ayn Rand, invalidates your\n#>assumption that theism is the factor to be considered.\n# \n#Bogus. I just said that theism is not the only factor for fanatism.\n#The point is that theism is *a* factor.\n\nThat's your claim; now back it up.  I consider your argument as useful\nas the following:  Belief is strongly correlated with fanaticism.  Therefore\nbelief is *a* factor in fanaticism.  True, and utterly useless.  (Note, this\nis *any* belief, not belief in Gods)\n\n#>Gullibility,\n#>blind obedience to authority, lack of scepticism, and so on, are all more\n#>reliable indicators.  And the really dangerous people - the sources of\n#>fanaticism - are often none of these things.  They are cynical manipulators\n#>of the gullible, who know precisely what they are doing.\n# \n#That's a claim you have to support. Please note that especially in the\n#field of theism, the leaders believe what they say.\n\nIf you believe that, you're incredibly naive.\n\n#>Now, *some*\n#>brands of theism, and more precisely *some* theists, do tend to fanaticism,\n#>I grant you.  To tar all theists with this brush is bigotry, not a reasoned\n#>argument - and it reads to me like a warm-up for censorship and restriction\n#>of religious freedom.  Ever read Animal Farm?\n#>\n#That's a straw man. And as usually in discussions with you one has to\n#repeat it: Read what I have written above: not every theism leads to\n#fanatism, and not all fanatism is caused by theism. The point is,\n#there is a correlation, and it comes from innate features of theism.\n\nNo, some of it comes from features which *some* theism has in common\nwith *some* fanaticism.    Your last statement simply isn't implied by\nwhat you say before, because you're trying to sneak in \"innate features\nof [all] theism\".  The word you're groping for is \"some\".\n\n#Gullibility, by the way, is one of them.\n\nNo shit, Sherlock.  So why not talk about gullibility instead of theism,\nsince it seems a whole lot more relevant to the case you have, as opposed\nto the case you are trying to make?\n\n#And to say that I am going to forbid religion is another of your straw\n#men. Interesting that you have nothing better to offer.\n\nI said it reads like a warm up to that.  That's because it's an irrational\nand bogus tirade, and has no other use than creating a nice Them\/Us \nsplit in the minds of excitable people such as are to be found on either\nside of church walls.\n\n#>|>(2)  Define \"irrational belief\".  e.g., is it rational to believe that\n#>|>     reason is always useful?\n#>|>\n#>|\n#>|Irrational belief is belief that is not based upon reason. The latter has\n#>|been discussed for a long time with Charley Wingate. One point is that\n#>|the beliefs violate reason often, and another that a process that does\n#>|not lend itself to rational analysis does not contain reliable information.\n#>\n#>Well, there is a glaring paradox here:  an argument that reason is useful\n#>based on reason would be circular, and argument not based on reason would\n#>be irrational.  Which is it?\n#>\n#That's bogus. Self reference is not circular. And since the evaluation of\n#usefulness is possible within rational systems, it is allowed.\n\nO.K., it's oval.  It's still begging the question, however.  And though\nthat certainly is allowed, it's not rational.  And you claiming to be\nrational and all.\n\nAt the risk of repeating myself, and hearing \"we had that before\" [we\ndidn't hear a _refutation_ before, so we're back.   Deal with it] :\nyou can't use reason to demonstrate that reason is useful.  Someone\nwho thinks reason is crap won't buy it, you see.\n\n#Your argument is as silly as proving mathematical statements needs mathematics\n#and mathematics are therfore circular.\n\nAnybody else think Godel was silly?\n\n#>The first part of the second statement contains no information, because\n#>you don't say what \"the beliefs\" are.  If \"the beliefs\" are strong theism\n#>and\/or strong atheism, then your statement is not in general true.  The\n#>second part of your sentence is patently false - counterexample: an\n#>axiomatic datum does not lend itself to rational analysis, but is\n#>assumed to contain reliable information regardless of what process is\n#>used to obtain it.\n#>\n# \n#I've been speaking of religious systems with contradictory definitions\n#of god here.\n# \n#An axiomatic datum lends itself to rational analysis, what you say here\n#is a an often refuted fallacy. Have a look at the discussion of the\n#axiom of choice. And further, one can evaluate axioms in larger systems\n#out of which they are usually derived. \"I exist\" is derived, if you want\n#it that way.\n#\n#Further, one can test the consistency and so on of a set of axioms.\n# \n#what is it you are trying to say?\n\nThat at some point, people always wind up saying \"this datum is reliable\" \nfor no particular reason at all.  Example: \"I am not dreaming\".\n\n#>|Compared the evidence theists have for their claims to the strength of\n#>|their demands makes the whole thing not only irrational but antirational.\n#>\n#>I can't agree with this until you are specific - *which* theism?  To\n#>say that all theism is necessarily antirational requires a proof which\n#>I suspect you do not have.\n#>\n# \n#Using the traditonal definition of gods. Personal, supernatural entities\n#with objective effects on this world. Usually connected to morals and\/or\n#the way the world works.\n\nIMO, any belief about such gods is necessarily irrational.  That does\nnot mean that people who hold them are in principle opposed to the exercise of\nintelligence.  Some atheists are also scientists, for example.\n\n#>|The affinity to fanatism is easily seen. It has to be true because I believe\n#>|it is nothing more than a work hypothesis. However, the beliefs say they are\n#>|more than a work hypothesis.\n#>\n#>I don't understand this.  Can you formalise your argument?\n# \n#Person A believes system B becuase it sounds so nice. That does not make\n#B true, it is at best a work hypothesis. However, the content of B is that\n#it is true AND that it is more than a work hypothesis. Testing or evaluating\n#evidence for or against it  therefore dismissed because B (already believed)\n#says it is wronG\/ a waste  of time\/ not possible. Depending on the further\n#contents of B Amalekites\/Idolaters\/Protestants are to be killed, this can\n#have interesting effects.\n\nPeculiar definition of interesting, but sure.  Now show that a belief\nin gods entails the further contents of which you speak.   Why aren't my \ncatholic neighbours out killing the protestants, for example?   Maybe they \ndon't believe in it.  Maybe it's the conjunction of \"B asserts B\" and\n\"jail\/kill dissenters\" that is important, and the belief in gods is\nentirely irrelevant.  It certainly seems so to me, but then I have no\naxe to grind here. \n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"AHL PLAYOFF SCORES-- FIRST ROUND\t(home team in CAPS)\n================================\n\nGAMES PLAYED ON THURS, 4\/22\n-------------------------\nRochester 4\tUTICA 3\t\t(OT)\n\t\t\nGAMES PLAYED ON FRI, 4\/23\n--------------------------\nBinghamton 8\tBALTIMORE 3\nMONCTON 5\tSt John's 4\t(OT)\nSpringfield 4\tPROVIDENCE 2\n\n===================================================================\nSERIES STATI (plural of status? :)\n----------------------------------\nAdirondack defeated CDI, 4-0\nSpringfield leads Providence, 3-2\nBinghamton leads Baltimore, 2-1\nRochester leads Utica, 3-1\nSt John's leads Moncton, 3-1\nCape Breton leads Fredericton, 3-1","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nGood grief!  I do believe that for once you may have an argument which may\nbe discussed intelligently!\n\nI guess that you are a person who dislikes contact with people of ethnic\nminority.  However, your argument again falls flat on its face.  You state\nthat you, under an anti-discrimination bill, would be forced to associate\nwith others [homosexuals, I assume] against your will.  How do you know that\nyou do not associate with them now, except they may be closeted?   Would you\nlike to change your argument to read \"forced to associate with truthfully\nhomosexual people against my will\"?  You have no proof that anyone you\nnow know may not be homosexual and this punches a large hole in your\nargument.  Is it your belief that a homosexual comes in only one flavour (sic)\nand that is the camp mincing type?  Prove it.  You cannot.\n\nI must admit though, that it looks as if you actually thought about your response\nthis time instead of just raving.\n\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"As the title says. I would like to sell my Star LV2010 9 pin printer.\nIts a narrow colum dot matrix, supports both parallel and serial\ninterfacing, prints at 200 characters per second, has a 16K buffer, \nand is very dependable...\n\nDrop some mail if your interested in it. $55 Plus shipping get the\nprinter, and 6 extra srink-wraped ribbons, parallel connection\ncable, power cord, manual, and ONE sheet of paper (smile)...","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Would someone please send me a list of the historic space flights?  I \nam not looking for a list of all flights, just the ones in which something \nmonumental happened.  Or better yet, is there an ftp site with the list of all\nshuttle flights?","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nI don't know the answer the to this one, although with 8-bits I would assume\nthat it was one or the other.\n\n\nAccording to the literature, it will do quadruple buffering so that you\ncan have double buffered stereo output.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":": Hello *.*,\n: I'm looking for a supplier of Archive tape drive controlers (European\n: preferred) who could provide me an SC400S card for my old 5945l-2 drive.\n: Who knows where I could find such a beast? I thank you in advance for your \n: attention...\n\nI'm similarly looking for controllers for Archive 5945c.  Even the number to\ncontact Archive (or whatever the company is called) would help.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nPerhaps because there is a connection here that is not there in the Mexican\nvariant you bring up.\n\nThat is, many (not all) extreme fundamentalist Christians use the excuse of\nteaching their children Biblical morality to justify this sort of mistreatment.\nI do not see many Mexicans using their Mexican heritage as an excuse for abuse.\n\nIt is indeed this judgemental, controlling legalism of many fundamentalist\nChristians that has led me to reject that branch of our faith as not true\nto the Gospel of Christ, the gospel of love.\n\nI have seen this sort of thing too often, even amoung my own relatives, to\nbelieve there is no relationship.  Judgementalism often leads to overly\nstrict, and thus abusive, discipline of children.\n[This is not restricted to just Christian fundamentalism, it is found in\nmany extreme sects of other legalistic religions].\n\nI, too, am a Christian.  But I do not condone the use of the Bible to justify\nthis sort of abuse.  I believe that it is only by exposing the horrors of\nthe misapplication of the Biblical concept of discipline that such abuses\ncan be stopped.\n\nJust because someone is also a Christian does not mean we must identify\neith them. This sort of sin needs to be made public.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nNon-steroid.  Proventil is a brand of albuterol, a bronchodilator.  \n\nRegards,","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nIf you had been looking in your mirror, you would have seen the guy coming \nbefore you heard the screeching tires.\n\nWhen you're stopped at a light:\n\n1)  Stop so that you're got space in front of you, and a quick easy escape\nroute (between lanes, into a crosswalk, up a driveway, somewhere) if someone\ndecides they want to plow into you.\n\n2)  Keep the bike in first with the clutch in until at least a couple of cars\nare stopped behind you, so you don't have to waste a second you don't have\ntrying to get it in gear if you need to move.\n\n3)  Watch your mirrors.  In that situation, most of the hazards you are \ntrying to avoid are coming from behind you.  SIPDE (<-- msf-geek-speak)\nisn't just for when you're moving.  And you're less likely to panic and stall\nthe bike if you've got time to prepare before the guy's tires lock up behind\nyou.  (You still get the bejeezus scared out of you, but it's more a feeling\nof quickly-rising dread than a sudden jolt.)\n\n\n\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Has anyone ever hooked a Hayes 2400 Macintosh modem up\nto the serial port on a PC?  What are the pin outs\nto do this?  I have a mac printer cable to hook a DB 25\nto the Mac serial port.  Can I hook the two Mini-8 ports\ntogether? Do I have to swap pins?\n\nThanx in advance.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nTry searching for DMORF, I think it's located on wuarchive.wustl.edu in a\nmirror directory... I've used it before, & it was pretty good!","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"To follow-up, I had a bad experience w\/ a Krypto Lock too...\n\nLast year I bought a Krypto Cable II (3\/8\"x3-4' long, something like that)\nthat by all standards seemed like a decent piece.  Until I used it anyway...\nBefore I ever used it for security purposes, I used it for entertainment\n(minds out of the gutter, please), which is to say that I sat fiddling w\/\nit while watching TV (the night I got it).  After three minutes of mindless\nfiddling (of course it was mindless, remember I was watching TV) the entire\ntumbler mechanism came out on the key!  Not unlike that old Georgie-porgie\nnursery rhyme.  This left a very empty cylinder and a very non-secure \n(read \"swingin' in the breeze\") cable lock.\nKinda makes me wonder about any flat key-style lock.  One yank w\/ a \nslide-hammer and Viola-- I'm making an insurance claim.\n\nAnyone else have a similar experience (w\/ the Kryptos, not bike theft)?","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n   Hi\n\n   I would like to know if there is any software, PD or not, who\n   could produce X11 output of HPGL file on RS\/6000. And same kind of\n   software who could produce hardcopy on postscript and lasetjet.\n\nTry export.lcs.mit.edu.  I think that there is a viewer there called\nxviewgl.  Check the README in \/contrib.\n\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be terrified; do not\nbe discouraged, for the LORD your God will be with you wherever you go.\"","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Babe Ruth's lifetime pitching stats (selected):\n\n94-46, .671. 2.28 ERA. 163 G, 107 CG, 17 SHO, 10.6 RAT.\n\nBest year: 1916, Bos: 23-12, 1.75 ERA (led league) or\n           1917, Bos: 24-13, 2.01 ERA","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Hi!!\nI have a question:\n   Which is the diference between Performa 450 and LCIII?\n   I want to know which is better.\n   If you know the specifications and the prices of this computers, can\nyou tell me by email to ----> rcvillab@isluga.puc.cl\n   I'd like to know the diference between the apple monitor('14) and the \nperforma monitor too.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nWhat is PAS16? Any articles (or reviews) describing it?\n\n--\nPenio Penev  x7423 (212)327-7423 (w) Internet: penev@venezia.rockefeller.edu","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Is it possible to put more than 1 controller in a PC.  By this I mean of \ndifferent types.  ie.  RLL and MFM.  If so how do you access the drives\nin the CMOS setup.  Do they just show up to be configured or do you \nhave to do low level writes to the controller.  \n\nAs an example put 1 RLL controller with 2 drives in a machine.  Put\na MFM controller and 2 more drives connected to it.  I now have 4\ndrives with 2 controllers of different types.  Also can you \nput 2 controllers of the same type into a PC and again how do you access \nthem.  \n\nI was asked this question and never tried to do it so if anyone has\ndone this and can supply me with info I would very pleased\n\nThanx in advance for any info...\n\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nI'll vote for anything where they don't feel constrained to use stupid\nand ugly PC phrases to replace words like 'manned'.  If they think\nthey need to do that, they're more than likely engaging in 'politics\nand public relations as usual' rather than seriously wanting to\nactually get into space.  So that eliminates Option \"A\" from the\nrunning.  What do they call a manned station in Option \"C\"?\n\n[I'm actually about half serious about that.  People should be more\nconcerned with grammatical correctness and actually getting a working\nstation than they are with 'Political Correctness' of terminology.]\n\n\n-- \n\"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live\n in the real world.\"   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n A 68 Corvette but, I don't want to put Corvette seats in it.  The original\n seats are in exc. shape but they are uncomfortable as hell.  I'm going to\n store those and find a set to drive in.  I have all the Vette catalogs but\n I'm looking for a more generic type seat.  I can modify the brackets but \n cushion height and overall width are a concern.  I've looked through some\n local boneyards without success.  I would just like to find a pair of \n cheapo's to use this summer.  ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nThe fee is a suggestion for an individual but licensing is mandatory\nfor commercial, government, and institutional users. I wonder how many\nusers of xv own the system that it runs on.\n\n-- \n\nMichael Salmon\n\n#include\t<standard.disclaimer>\n#include\t<witty.saying>\n#include\t<fancy.pseudo.graphics>","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nDress casual. Only in heaven is there a dress code (black tie and\nself-important expression)","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nWell, regardless of what policy liabilities anyone in Washington may think\nEFF has, it is going ahead aggressively attacking the assumptions that are\nbehind the Administrations Clipper Chip initiative.  For all the reasons\nstated here.  In Washington, you have to work under the assumption that \neveryone has some liabilities.  Government and non-governmental \norganizations alike all share the same glass house.  EFF is variously\nidentified as the Hacker Defense Fund, the First Amendment Absolutists,\nthe New Communists, etc, but it is also an acknowledged leader in the\ncivil liberties arena and is respected as a serious player in the \npolicy circles.  So unless there is another organization with the\ncredibility and clout and right policy stance that you know of in\nWashington, please don't count EFF out as a valid representative of\nyour views in the Clipper Chip matter.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"For Sale:\n\n\tComplete Amiga 1000 computer system\t$450 or best offer\n\n\tAmiga 1000\n\t512k RAM\n\t1 Internal, 1 External 3.5\" floppy diskette drive\n\tDetachable Keyboard\n\tTwo Button Mouse\n\tRGB Monitor","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nThis is one of those \"yes, but\" things. It's true that a hydraulically\npressurized tube can be somewhat more rigid than an unpressurized tube,\nbut even at 2000 PSI levels a hydraulic hose will bend rather easily,\nthough it's straight-on compressive strength is high, and it's torsional \nresistance increase is practically nil. On the other grasping member, \nthere's no doubt that hydraulic \"leverage\" exists in nature. Tree roots \nare an example. Given time they can shatter concrete as osmotic pressure\nincreases.\n\n\nKangaroos 3-limbed? I don't think so. If you take the view that the\ntail is a limb, then monkeys and kangaroos are 5-limbed. I think the\ntail is a different kind of structure, grossly enlarged in the case\nof the kangaroo, but primarily still an instrument of balance rather\nthan locomotion. I don't know much about panda \"thumbs\", so I'll ask\nis it opposable?\n\n\nWell I won't say flat out that they can't be intelligent, but I'll\nbring a couple of lines of argument to bear to try to show why I\ndon't think it's likely. First let me say that when I say \"intelligent\"\nI mean complex behaviors in response to novel situations on a level\nwith, or greater than, human tool use and tool building. IE assuming\nsuitable manipulators are present on the creature to allow it to alter \nit's enviroment in a planned way, it will do so. That's certainly not\na universal or complete definition of intelligence, but it will suffice\nfor a putative technological alien.\n\nNow no one knows exactly what makes a brain capable of thought, but\nit's generally accepted that one of the criteria is a certain level\nof complexity. This is generally determined by the number of neuron\ncells, and their interconnections. So a creature the size of a lemur\nwouldn't have enough neurons to support complex thought. This argument\nis considerably less clear in the case of the dinosaur. There's room\nfor a large brain, though no indication that one ever developed. One\nreason this may be true is neuronic speed. The electrochemical messages \nthat trigger neurons require time to propagate. This makes it difficult\nfor a highly complex central brain to coordinate the movements of very\nlarge creatures. So there's little selection pressure for such brains.\nInstead, a simpler distributed network evolves. This doesn't rule out\nintelligent dinosaurs, but it points in that direction.\n\nThen there are the thermodynamic arguments. A tiny creature like the\nlemur needs to eat frequently because it's internal heat is rapidly\nlost due to it's high surface to volume ratio. I contend that a creature\nthat must spend most of it's time and energy feeding won't have the time\nto develop and exercise intelligence. That argument may be somewhat weak.\nThe dinosaur's problem is the reverse, it must moderate it's heat production \nbecause it's high volume to surface ratio makes it tend to retain waste heat. \nI'm assuming that a certain temperature range is optimal for chemical\nreactivity reasons for productive neuron function. So creatures would\ntend to need to maintain a regulated temperature in a range near that\nof humans if they are carbon based. That tends to rule out cold blooded\ncreatures as potential homes of intelligence. Some people contend that\nsome of the dinosaurs may have been warm blooded. But for a creature\nthe size of a brontosaur, it's activity levels would have to be restrained\nor it would be prone to generate an internal steam explosion from the\nwaste heat. Whales are similar size, but they can reject heat to the\nocean, a much more efficient sink than air. I suspect that for intelligence\nto manifest itself, a certain degree of activity in interacting with the\nenvironment is necessary. IE monkey curiousity. I doubt a large dinosaur\nwould be capable of that much activity.\n\nGary","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
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{"text":"From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>\nSubject: Rabin and his Palestinians kapos\n\n\nRabin's plans for a Palestinian police\n\n(from The Other Front, Alternative Information Center,\nJerusalem, 5 May 1993)\n\n\"The decision to view the setting up of a local police force \nfor (sic) the Palestinians as the central issue for \ndeliberation at the peace talks to be resumed next week - \neven before subjects like elections in the territories and \nareas of juridiction in the framework of autonomy - is a \nsign of the Israeli government's serious attitude towards \nthe peace process.\n\n\"The setting up of a police force is not part of the 'gesture \npackage', but deals with the very heart and substance of \nthe Palestinian struggle for national identity. As it turns \nout, the main objective guiding the prime minister in the \nsetting up of a Palestinian police force - and apparently \nalso supported by Foreign Minister Shimon Peres - is to \nensure the holding of democratic elections in the \nterritories.\"\n\nThus writes Amnon Barzilai in his editorial (Israeli daily \nHadashot, 23 April), and his position articulates the \nthinking of most of the commentators who dealt with this \nissue in the past two weeks. Over against them stand the \nsettlers and rightwing parties, who also interpret the \ndecision to encourage the establishment of a Palestinian \npolice force as a significant step towards the instituting of \nreal autonomy, something which will restrict what can be \ndone by the Jewish settlers in the West Bank and Gaza \nStrip. With a variety of demonstrations, including street \ntheater on 'What will happen when there is a Palestinian \npolice force', rightwing elements are attempting to \nfrighten the Israeli public and to pressure Rabin to go \nback on his decision. Members of the Kach movement \nhave even begun to organize a 'settler police force' in the \nOccupied Territories, as counter-balance to the future \nPalestinian police force.\n\nHowever, as Barzilai points out, the main function of the \nnew police force - as far as the Israeli government is \nconcerned - has nothing to do with the settlers, over \nwhom they will apparently have no authority, but will \ncontrol political groups within the Palestinian population, \nwhom the government is interested in neutralizing. \nWrites Barzilai:\n\n\"...According to ideas currently taking shape, the setting \nup of a local police force in the territories will precede, \nnot only the stage of electsion, but also the final stages of \nthe preparing of the interim autonomy agreement.\n\n\"The willingness of the Israeli government to set up a \nlocal Palestinian police force is evidence that the \ngovernment is serious about arriving at a settlement with \nthe Palestinians...\"\n\nIt's no wonder that the Palestinian public is also greatly \nworried about this new Israeli initiative. And it is \ninevitable that pressure will be brought to bear on Faisal \nHusseini and the rest of the delegation members, from a \nvariety of directions, to refuse the gift which Rabin would \nlike to give them. But at this stage, it looks like the \nPalestinians are cooperating in the fulfillment of his \nplans.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
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{"text":"\n\nThese surviving witnesses being members of which cult pray tell ??\n\n\n\nWe were having a discussion about whether Bush would have done anything\ndifferently. On the basis of Panama, Grenada, Tripoli, Kewait etc we \ndecided that Bush would have asked for a surgical airstrike  or used a \ncruise missile, some people suggested that he would have used the nuke\nwarhead cruise, others pointed out that he would be too cheap to use 'em.\n\nWhat was missing? Armoured vehicles! \n\n\n\nThe person who murdered 17 children was Koresh. He kept them there and \nbrought about their deaths deliberately.\n\nYou may consider that I am a complete bastard and a not very nice chap.\nThats quite true. I don't pretend to be. Being nice is what amateurs\ntry to do. If you want to talk politics you are talking hard decisions\nsuch as whether the lives of the troops should be risked attempting\nto rescue the children. Anyone who has held the office of President\nof the United States since FDR has held the threat that if the USA\nor its allies were to be threatened then the USA would risk nuclear \nHolocaust in order to protect freedom. Beleive it or not, that is not\nthe sort of threat that nice chaps make. Do they have a gun nutters\nsection of the US version of CND by any chance?\n\n\nThere are cases where society has to be protected from\nmadmen such as Koresh or Hitler. If it were not for the consideration\nof the 17 children in there the question of the tactics to be used would\nnot be a matter of anything but academic significance. It is not for\nthe govt to prevent people from commiting mass suicide.\n\nThe latest reports are that cult members were shot attempting to\nleave the compound by Koresh loyalists during the fire. If proven\nthat would entail the final nail in the coffin of those who want to\npromote Koresh as some sort of role model or hero.\n\n\nI need hardly add that it is Koresh that has created the Holocaust in\nthis case by the deliberate arson of the ranch appocalypse.\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nNot if you show that these hypothetical atheists are gullible, excitable\nand easily led from some concrete cause.   In that case we would also\nhave to discuss if that concrete cause, rather than atheism, was the\nfactor that caused their subsequent behaviour.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n Pink Noise and White Noise are equal amounts of all frequencies.  This\nis in most cases around the 20-3.3K Hz range.  Pink\/White are used to\nadjust for room dynamics and stuff like that.  There are a few EQ's out\non the market that have Pink noise built in.  Most all from Audio\nControl have them I know the C-101 does.  \n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\tMillipedes, I understand, are vegetarian, and therefore almost\ncertainly will not bite and are not poisonous. Centipedes are\ncarnivorous, and although I don't have any absolute knowledge on this, I\nwould tend to think that you're in no danger from anything but a\nconcerted assault by several million of them.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Okay, okay, I know the Ford Probe is made in the US, in fact it's\nmade in Michigan, at a Mazda plant.  My question: are most of the parts\nfrom American or Japanese sources?  I have been told that most of the US\nassembly plants for Japanese automakers import almost all of the parts used in\nthe vehicles.\n\nAny information anyone has on this will be appreciated!","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
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{"text":"Here is a press release from Huntington Medical Research Institutes.\n\n New Method For Diagnosing Alzheimer's Disease Discovered at\nHuntington Medical Research Institutes: Results to Be Reported\n To: National Desk, Health Writer\n Contact: John Lockhart or Belinda Gerber, 310-444-7000, or\n          800-522-8877, for the Huntington Medical Research\n          Institutes.\n\n   LOS ANGELES, April 28  -- A new method for diagnosing \nand measuring chemical imbalances in the brain\nwhich lead to Alzheimer's disease and other dementias has been\ndiscovered by researchers at the Huntington Medical Research\nInstitutes (HMRI) in Pasadena, Calif.  Results of their research\nwill be reported in the May issue of the scientific journal,\nRadiology.\n   Using an advanced form of magnetic resonance imaging (MRI)\ncalled magnetic resonance spectroscopy (MRS), a research team led\nby Brian D. Ross, M.D., D. Phil., conducted a study on 21 elderly\npatients who were believed to be suffering from some form of\ndementia. The exams used standard MRI equipment fitted with special\nsoftware developed at HMRI called Clinical Proton MRS.  Clinical\nProton MRS is easily applied, giving doctors confirmatory diagnoses\nin less than 30 minutes.  An automated version of Clinical Proton\nMRS called Proton Brain Examination (PROBE) reduces the examination\ntime yet further, providing confirmatory diagnoses in less than 10\nminutes.  By comparison, the current \"standard of care\" in testing\nfor Alzheimer's disease calls for lengthy memory function and\nneuropsychological tests, which can be very upsetting to the\npatient, are not definitive and can only be confirmed by autopsy.\n   In addition to Alzheimer's disease, the new Clinical Proton MRS\nexam may have applications in diagnosing other dementias, including\nAIDS-related dementia, Parkinson's disease and Huntington's\ndisease.\n   \"We've developed a simple test which can be administered quickly\nand relatively inexpensively using existing MRI equipment fitted\nwith either the MRS or PROBE software,\" said Dr. Ross, adding,\n\"this will help physicians to diagnose Alzheimer's earlier and\nintervene with therapeutics before the progression of the disease\ncauses further damage to the delicate inner workings of the brain.\"\n   Dr. Ross and his HMRI team measured a family of chemicals in the\nbrain known as inositols, and myo-inositol (MI) acted as a marker\nin the study.  In comparison to healthy patients, those diagnosed\nwith Alzheimer's showed a 22 percent increase in MI, while their\nlevel of another chemical called N-acetylaspartate (NAA) was\nsignificantly lower, indicating a loss of brain-stimulating neurons\nbelieved to be associated with the progression of the disease.\n   Current drug therapy for Alzheimer's disease is widely\nconsidered to be inadequate.  This is attributable, Dr. Ross\nbelieves, to the theory that Alzheimer's is caused by an\ninterruption in the transmission of the chemical acetylcholine to\nthe nerve cells. This belief has been adhered to over the last 15\nyears, and consequently, most drugs to treat Alzheimer's were based\non the changing receptors for acetylcholine.\n   \"Physicians have a real need for a test to differentiate\nAlzheimer's from other dementias, to provide the patient and his or\nher family with a firm diagnosis and to monitor future treatment\nprotocols for the treatment of this disease.  For this reason, we\nconsider this test a major advancement in medicine,\" said Bruce\nMiller, M.D., a noted neurologist at Harbor-UCLA, MRS researcher\nand a co-author of the study.\n   Other members of the HMRI research team included Rex A. Moats,\nPh.D., Truda Shonk, B.S., Thomas Ernst, Ph.D., and Suzanne Woolley,\nR.N.  The PROBE software can be fitted on the approximately 1,200\nGeneral Electric MRI units currently in use in the United States,\nand will be configured for other manufacturers' MRI units soon.\n   For interviews with Dr. Ross, advance copies of the Radiology\nMay issue, and other information, please contact John Lockhart or\nBelinda Gerber for HMRI at 310-444-7000 or 800-522-8877.\n\n   Q & A on Alzheimer's Disease:\n\n   What is Alzheimer's disease and how is it caused?\n   Alzheimer's disease (AD) is an incurable degenerative disease of\nthe brain first described in 1906 by the German neuropathologist\nAlois Alzheimer.  As the disease progresses, it leads to loss of\nmemory and mental functioning, followed by changes in personality,\nloss of control of bodily functions, and, eventually, death.\n   How many people does it affect?\n   Alzheimer's disease affects an estimated 4 million adults in\nthe United States and is the fourth leading cause of death, taking\napproximately 100,000 lives each year.  While Alzheimer's\ndebilitates its victims, it is equally devastating, both\nemotionally and financially, for patients' families.  AD is the\nmost common cause of dementia in adults.  Symptoms worsen every\nyear, and death usually occurs within 10 years of initial onset.\n   What are its signs and symptoms?\n   Although the cause of AD is not known, two risk factors have\nbeen identified: advanced age and genetic predisposition.  The risk\nof developing AD is less than one percent before the age of 50\nyars old, but increases steeply in each successive decade of life\nto reach 30 percent by the age of 90.  In patients with familial\nAD, immediate family relatives have a 50 percent chance of\ndeveloping AD.  One of its first symptoms is severe \"forgetfulness\"\ncaused by short-term memory loss.  Dr. Herman Weinreb of the School\nof Medicine at New York University says \"whether forgetfulness is\na serious symptom or not is largely a matter of degree\" and\nsuggests the following criteria:\n\n   -- Forgetting the name of someone you see infrequently is\n      normal.\n   -- Forgetting the name of a loved one is serious.\n   -- Forgetting where you left your keys is normal.\n   -- Forgetting how to get home is serious.\n\n   Doctors suggest that people with severe symptoms should be\nevaluated in order to rule out Alzheimer's disease and other forms\nof dementia.\n -30-","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"what did happen to the swiss team ? last year they reached the semi-final\nand now after 3 matches no points and even no goals !!\nafter the 0:1 against Italy it seems they lost any hope and were\noverrun 0:6 by the russian team.\nnow it seems that they have to work hard not to be relegated to the\nB-level. does anybody know if this WC is the qualification tournement for\nthe olympic games '94 in Lillehammer or are some teams already\nqualified for them.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nThis was on \"That's Incredible\" several years ago.  The volume of liquid\nthe rat had to breath was considerably smaller than what a human would have\nto breath, so maybe it is possible for a rat but not a human.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Ok, what's more important to gay Christians?  Sex, or Christianity?\nChristianity I would hope.  Would they be willing to forgo sex\ncompletely, in order to avoid being a stumbling block to others,\nto avoid the chance that their interpretation might be wrong,\netc?  If not, why not?  Heterosexuals abstain all the time.\n(It would be nice if protestant churches had celibate orders\nto show the world that sex is not the important thing in life)\n\nTo tell the truth, gay churches remind me a lot of Henry the VIII\nstarting the Church of England in order to get a divorce (or is\nthis a myth).  Note that I am not denying that gay Christians are\nChristian.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
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{"text":"\nIt appears it is time that this article (originally posted by Larry\nCipriani last year, and which I saved) gets posted again.  It offers\nas good an analysis of the meaning of the Second Amendment, especially\nregarding the militia clause, as I have seen.  I have not seen any\nrebuttles with similar bone fides...\n\nEnjoy.  (Flames to \/dev\/null)\n\n--------- Begin Enclosed Article -----------\n\n\t\t\tTHE UNABRIDGED SECOND AMENDMENT\n\n\t\t\t      by J. Neil Schulman\n\nIf you wanted to know all about the Big Bang, you'd ring up Carl Sagan,\nright ?  And if you wanted to know about desert warfare, the man to call\nwould be Norman Schwarzkopf, no question about it.  But who would you call\nif you wanted the top expert on American usage, to tell you the meaning\nof the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution ?\n\nThat was the question I asked A.C. Brocki, editorial coordinator of the Los\nAngeles Unified School District and formerly senior editor at Houghton\nMifflin Publishers -- who himself had been recommended to me as the\nforemost expert on English usage in the Los Angeles school system.  Mr.\nBrocki told me to get in touch with Roy Copperud, a retired professor\njournalism at the University of Southern California and the author of\n\"American Usage and Style: The Consensus.\"\n\nA little research lent support to Brocki's opinion of Professor Copperud's\nexpertise.\n\nRoy Copperud was a newspaper writer on major dailies for over three decades\nbefore embarking on a a distinguished 17-year career teaching journalism at\nUSC.  Since 1952, Copperud has been writing a column dealing with the\nprofessional aspects of journalism for \"Editor and Publisher\", a weekly\nmagazine focusing on the journalism field.\n\nHe's on the usage panel of the American Heritage Dictionary, and Merriam\nWebster's Usage Dictionary frequently cites him as an expert.  Copperud's\nfifth book on usage, \"American Usage and Style: The Consensus,\" has been in\ncontinuous print from Van Nostrand Reinhold since 1981, and is the winner\nof the Association of American Publisher's Humanities Award.\n\nThat sounds like an expert to me.\n\nAfter a brief telephone call to Professor Copperud in which I introduced\nmyself but did not give him any indication of why I was interested, I sent\nthe following letter:\n\n\"I am writing you to ask you for your professional opinion as an expert in\nEnglish usage, to analyze the text of the Second Amendment to the United\nStates Constitution, and extract the intent from the text.\n\n\"The text of the Second Amendment is, 'A well-regulated Militia, being\nnecessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep\nand bear Arms, shall not be infringed.'\n\n\"The debate over this amendment has been whether the first part of the\nsentence, 'A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a\nfree State', is a restrictive clause or a subordinate clause, with respect\nto the independent clause containing the subject of the sentence, 'the\nright of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.'\n\n\"I would request that your analysis of this sentence not take into\nconsideration issues of political impact or public policy, but be restricted\nentirely to a linguistic analysis of its meaning and intent.  Further,\nsince your professional analysis will likely become part of litigation\nregarding the consequences of the Second Amendment, I ask that whatever\nanalysis you make be a professional opinion that you would be willing to\nstand behind with your reputation, and even be willing to testify under\noath to support, if necessary.\"\n\nMy letter framed several questions about the test of the Second Amendment,\nthen concluded:\n\n\"I realize that I am asking you to take on a major responsibility and task\nwith this letter.  I am doing so because, as a citizen, I believe it is\nvitally important to extract the actual meaning of the Second Amendment.\nWhile I ask that your analysis not be affected by the political importance of\nits results, I ask that you do this because of that importance.\"\n\nAfter several more letters and phone calls, in which we discussed terms for\nhis doing such an analysis, but in which we never discussed either of our\nopinions regarding the Second Amendment, gun control, or any other political\nsubject, Professor Copperud sent me the follow analysis (into which I have\ninserted my questions for the sake of clarity):\n\n[Copperud:] \"The words 'A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the\nsecurity of a free state,' contrary to the interpretation cited in your\nletter of July 26, 1991, constitutes a present participle, rather than a\nclause.  It is used as an adjective, modifying 'militia,' which is\nfollowed by the main clause of the sentence (subject 'the right', verb\n'shall').  The to keep and bear arms is asserted as an essential for\nmaintaining a militia.\n\n\"In reply to your numbered questions:\n\n[Schulman:] \"(1) Can the sentence be interpreted to grant the right to keep\nand bear arms solely to 'a well-regulated militia'?\"\n\n[Copperud:] \"(1) The sentence does not restrict the right to keep and bear\narms, nor does it state or imply possession of the right elsewhere or by\nothers than the people; it simply makes a positive statement with respect\nto a right of the people.\"\n\n[Schulman:] \"(2) Is 'the right of the people to keep and bear arms' granted\nby the words of the Second Amendment, or does the Second Amendment assume a\npreexisting right of the people to keep and bear arms, and merely state\nthat such right 'shall not be infringed'?\"\n\n[Copperud:] \"(2) The right is not granted by the amendment; its existence\nis assumed.  The thrust of the sentence is that the right shall be\npreserved inviolate for the sake of ensuring a militia.\"\n\n[Schulman:] \"(3) Is the right of the people to keep and bear arms\nconditioned upon whether or not a well regulated militia, is, in fact\nnecessary to the security of a free State, and if that condition is not\nexisting, is the statement 'the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,\nshall not be infringed' null and void?\"\n\n[Copperud:] \"(3) No such condition is expressed or implied.  The right to\nkeep and bear arms is not said by the amendment to depend on the existence\nof a militia.  No condition is stated or implied as to the relation of the\nright to keep and bear arms and to the necessity of a well-regulated\nmilitia as a requisite to the security of a free state.  The right to keep\nand bear arms is deemed unconditional by the entire sentence.\"\n\n[Schulman:] \"(4) Does the clause 'A well-regulated Militia, being necessary\nto the security of a free State,' grant a right to the government to place\nconditions on the 'right of the people to keep and bear arms,' or is such\nright deemed unconditional by the meaning of the entire sentence?\"\n\n[Copperud:] \"(4) The right is assumed to exist and to be unconditional, as\npreviously stated.  It is invoked here specifically for the sake of the\nmilitia.\"\n\n[Schulman:] \"(5) Which of the following does the phrase 'well-regulated\nmilitia' mean: 'well-equipped', 'well-organized,' 'well-drilled,'\n'well-educated,' or 'subject to regulations of a superior authority'?\"\n\n[Copperud:] \"(5) The phrase means 'subject to regulations of a superior\nauthority;' this accords with the desire of the writers for civilian\ncontrol over the military.\"\n\n[Schulman:] \"(6) (If at all possible, I would ask you to take account the\nchanged meanings of words, or usage, since that sentence was written 200\nyears ago, but not take into account historical interpretations of the\nintents of the authors, unless those issues can be clearly separated.\"\n\n[Copperud:] \"To the best of my knowledge, there has been no change in the\nmeaning of words or in usage that would affect the meaning of the\namendment.  If it were written today, it might be put: \"Since a\nwell-regulated militia is necessary tot he security of a free state, the\nright of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be abridged.'\n\n[Schulman:] \"As a 'scientific control' on this analysis, I would also\nappreciate it if you could compare your analysis of the text of the Second\nAmendment to the following sentence,\n\n\"A well-schooled electorate, being necessary to the security of a free\nState, the right of the people to keep and read Books, shall not be\ninfringed.'\n\n\"My questions for the usage analysis of this sentence would be,\n\n\"(1) Is the grammatical structure and usage of this sentence and the way\nthe words modify each other, identical to the Second Amendment's sentence?;\nand\n\n\"(2) Could this sentence be interpreted to restrict 'the right of the people\nto keep and read Books' _only_ to 'a well-educated electorate' -- for\nexample, registered voters with a high-school diploma?\"\n\n[Copperud:] \"(1) Your 'scientific control' sentence precisely parallels the\namendment in grammatical structure.\n\n\"(2) There is nothing in your sentence that either indicates or implies the\npossibility of a restricted interpretation.\"\n\nProfessor Copperud had only one additional comment, which he placed in his\ncover letter: \"With well-known human curiosity, I made some speculative\nefforts to decide how the material might be used, but was unable to reach\nany conclusion.\"\n\nSo now we have been told by one of the top experts on American usage what\nmany knew all along: the Constitution of the United States unconditionally\nprotects the people's right to keep and bear arms, forbidding all\ngovernments formed under the Constitution from abridging that right.\n\nAs I write this, the attempted coup against constitutional government in the\nSoviet Union has failed, apparently because the will of the people in that\npart of the world to be free from capricious tyranny is stronger than the\nold guard's desire to maintain a monopoly on dictatorial power.\n\nAnd here in the United States, elected lawmakers, judges, and appointed\nofficials who are pledged to defend the Constitution of the United States\nignore, marginalize, or prevaricate about the Second Amendment routinely.\nAmerican citizens are put in American prisons for carrying arms, owning\narms of forbidden sorts, or failing to satisfy bureaucratic requirements\nregarding the owning and carrying of firearms -- all of which is an\nabridgement of the unconditional right of the people to keep and bear arms,\nguaranteed by the Constitution.\n\nAnd even the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), staunch defender of the\nrest of the Bill of Rights, stands by and does nothing.\n\nit seems it is up to those who believe in the right to keep and bear arms to\npreserve that right.  no one else will.  No one else can.  Will we beg our\nelected representatives not to take away our rights, and continue regarding\nthem as representing us if they do?  Will we continue obeying judges who\ndecide that the Second Amendment doesn't mean what it says it means but\nmeans whatever they say it means in their Orwellian doublespeak ?\n\nOr will be simply keep and bear the arms of our choice, as the Constitution\nof the United States promises us we can, and pledge that we will defend\nthat promise with our lives, our fortuned, and our sacred honor ?\n\n(C) 1991 by The New Gun Week and Second Amendment Foundation.\nInformational reproduction of the entire article is hereby authorized\nprovided the author, The New Gun Week and Second Amendment Foundation are\ncredited.  All other rights reserved.\n\n\t\t\tAbout the Author\n\nJ. Neil Schulman is the award-winning author of novels endorsed by Anthony\nBurgess and Nobel-economist Milton Friedman, and writer of the CBS \"Twilight\nZone\" episode in which a time-traveling historian prevents the JFK\nassassination.  He's also the founder and president of SoftServ Publishing,\nthe first publishing company to distribute \"paperless books\" via personal\ncomputers and modems.\n\nMost recently, Schulman has founded the Committee to Enforce the Second\nAmendment (CESA), through which he intends to see the individual's right to\nkeep and bear arms recognized as a constitutional protection equal to those\nafforded in the First, Fourth, Fifth, Ninth and Fourteenth amendments.\n\nJ. Neil Schulman may be reached through: The SoftServ Paperless Bookstore,\n24-hour bbs: 213-827-3160 (up to 9600 baud).  Mail address: PO Box 94, Long\nBeach, CA 90801-0094.  GEnie address: SOFTSERV\n\n--------- End Enclosed Article -------------","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
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{"text":"\nI use Arts & Letters on a PC and if you make use of the Tracing Preferences\nit traces beautifully. BUT - there's a trick to tracing. I've traced entire\ncartoon images into custom clip art, but you can't expect to just point to\nthe image and get it just like that, it takes a little work (in some cases\na lot of work). You need to trace a drawing piece by piece, and then put it \ntogether... it's kinda hard to explain in type, but if you're ever in Reno\nI can give you a little demonstration!\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\tI have an extra copy of Lotus 1-2-3 ver 3.4 for DOS.  I'd like to get   $100 for it.  please reply by e-mail to jth@bach.udel.edu\nThanks,\nJay\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\nI recently got a tower-case for my Gateway 486\/33 file server, mostly because\nwe needed the extra drive bays and better power supply.  This case has LED's\nfor the processor speed, i.e. 33.  Is there a place to plug this in on the\nmotherboard?  If not, is there anyway to hack something to make it work?\n\nTIA!\n\n-Eric","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"the sub. says it all.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nwhy?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"The word some sums it up, alot of scientist have concluded that without a\ndoubt Global Climate will\/is occur(ring) and should be dealt with by source\nreductions.  This includes making sure that the \"price\" of fossil fuels\nreflects their \"true costs\".","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"<YZKCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>\n\nIndeed Yaqouv, just like the ugly hatred spread by Kahane and\nKahanists, right?   Or they are exempt from condemnation, and allowed\nto hate?\n\nNo, fool, not at all like hatred of one's sworn enemies, enemies who\nhave said time and again that they mean to kill you, and have, by mur-\ndering innocent men, women and children, shown that they really mean it.\n\nThe late rabbi never hated anyone merely for having been born into a par-\nticular group, but he (and I) hate and would\/will kill anyone who comes\nto kill Jews. I recall VERY well Rabbi Kahane's words to the Iraqis at a\ndemonstration: \"You want peace? Here is our hand (holding out an open\nhand)! You don't want peace? Here is our hand (holding out a fist)!\"\n\nI know you'll answer me indirectly, it doesn't bother me a bit.\nKeep it up.\n\nIndirectly? The wonder of it is that I bother answering the likes of you\nat ALL!\n\nSteel (who's never pissed off).\n\n\n--\n                  \/       ..                          \/  .\n                \/_______\/_\/__________\/_\/_\/      _<  \/____\/\n         \/___ \/       ..                     \/____\/","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Lord, I hope you don't Hoover was a pro! He was monstrous.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Here is the latest on relocating your help files to a server.  \nThe WinHelp() function, as I am told by MS, does search your path so \nrelocating MS windows helpfiles won't be a problem as long as you include\nthe path to where you move them to, however, if an application has \nhardcoded the path into their code so that when WinHelp is invoked it\nsearches the given path (i.e. WinHelp(hwnd, c:\\amipro) for example) then\nWinHelp does not search your path and instead looks only to that directory\nwhere you have installed your software.\n\nI tested this out on a variety of software packages.  I moved all my \nhelpfiles to the drive z:\\ and included this in the path statement.\nHere is the results for different software packages:\n\n\nNorton Desktop\t\t\tFound Helpfiles\nWindows V3.1 for WorkGroups\tFound Helpfiles\nWindows V3.1\t\t\tFound Helpfiles\nMS Powerpoint V3.0\t\tFound Helpfiles\nMS Word\t\t\t\tFound Helpfiles\nMS Excel V4.0a\t\t\tDid Not Find Helpfiles (strange)\nMS Foxpro V2.5 for Windows\tFound Helpfiles\nLotus Amipro V3.0\t\tDid Not Find Helpfiles\nProcomm Plus for Windows\tDid Not Find Helpfiles\n\n\nI guess this is better than nothing but it would make sense to be able to \nspecify a global path for helpfiles.  \n\nIf anyone has any comments or If I can help anyone or if I left something\nout please let me know.\n\n\t\tlhighley@gozer.idbsu.edu\n\nthanks for the help from everyone especially jagrant@emr1.emr.ca","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"  On the contrary, the entire Clipper proposal is an example of the\ngovernment servicing the people (in the sense of the term found in the\nsentence, \"The farmer paid $100 to rent a bull to service his cows.\")\n\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\nSteve I'm glad to see that you abandoned the preamble thing.  What; did\nyou do a word search to find Welfare somewhere else in the constitution?\n\n[my comments and paraphrases in brackets]\n\nArticle I Section 8:  [in some ways the guts of the constitution]\n\nThe Congress shall have the Power:\n\n1. To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, \n       to pay the Debts [indebtedness as defined in the document]\n       and provide for the common Defence [Defence as precisely defined]\n       and general Welfare [as defined through the document, mostly in ways\n                           [that limit the government.]\n         of the United States; [but the above taxes shall be uniform through-\n                               [out the U.S.]\n\n    [so far the congress has been given the power to collect taxes uniformly]\n\n    [ then ... ]\n\n2.  To borrow Money [...]\n3.  To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, [interstate and Indian tribes]\n4.  To [do uniform Naturalization and Bankruptcies]\n5.  To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and [etc.]\n6.  To [punish counterfeiters]\n7.  To establish Post Offices and post Roads\n8.  To [provide patents and copyrights]\n9.  To constitute Tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;\n10. To define and punish Piracies and [etc.]\n11. To declare War, [and etc.]\n12. To raise and support Armies,[but for no longer than two years at a stretch]\n13. To provide and maintain a Navy, [notice no time limit on this one]\n14. To [make the rules for the army and navy]\n15. To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws [etc.]\n16. To provide for [training of the army except for some state stuff]\n17. To exercise exclusive Legislation [in D.C]\n18. To make all Laws [necessary to execute the foregoing \"Powers\"].\n\nYour original instinct was right.  Looking to other nations for precedents\nthat support an expansive liberal agenda is much easier than looking to the\nslim pickins found in the constitution.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I agree thouroughly!!  Screw the damn contractual agreements!\nShow the exciting hockey game.  They will lose\nfans of ESPN (of which I have been one for quite a while) quickly \nwith decisions like this.\nJust my $.02","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"You are pervert.. Ok vi is not CUA but it has a powerful set of commands.\nOne for all it has 26 separate clipboard (and not only one ofor all kind of\ndata like Windows does).\nThe only problem is to Know the commands (the keyboard shortcut).\nI am quite fast with the pc keyboard... and I usually use all fingers to digit\nso when I use a editor I do not want to leave the keyboard and use the mouse\nevery time I need a special Function on the menu or to use the arrow keys\nthat are away from the usual position of my hands on the keyboard......\nIn my situation vi is very powerful and I'm searching to a vi editor \nfor Windows....\nBye\np.s. sorry for the bad english....\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I'm wondering if anyone knows the answer to a rather trivial question which\nI've been thinking about: What was the process used to divide the Bible into\nverses. I believe Jerome divided the New Testament, but I've never seen any\ndiscussion of *how* he did this. It seems rather arbitrary, as opposed to, for\nexample, making each sentence a verse.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nI've tried compiling it on several SPARCstations with gcc 2.22.  After\nfixing up a few bugs (3 missing constant definitions plus a couple of\nother things) I got it to compile & link, but after starting client\n& server I just get a black window; sometimes the client core dumps,\nsometimes the server, sometimes I get a broken pipe, sometimes it\njust sits there doing nothing although I occassionally get the\ncursor to become a cross-hair in dog-fight, but that's it.  I've\nsent word to the author plus what I did to fix it last week, but\nno reply as yet.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"The last time we discussed homosexuality, I asked whether anyone could\nidentify any other act besides homosexual intercourse that the Bible\nprohibited, but which might in some circumstances bring no apparent\nharm to anyone. Put another way, the question is whether homosexual\nintercourse is the only act that Christians are supposed to believe\nis immoral solely on the basis that God says it is, with no insight\nbeing offered as to *why* it is immoral. No one could answer my\nquestion in either form from the Bible. (I did get an interesting\nresponse based on Roman Catholic theology).\n\nHowever, I think now that I can at least answer my first question.\nLink Hudson pointed me to it in his recent comments about sleeping\nwith one's aunt. Incest is held to be immoral in every society,\nthat is, there are some degrees of relationship where marriage\n(and thus, intercouse) is prohibited. The Bible is no exception.\nThe trouble is that it may be difficult to see *why* a particular\nrelationship qualifies as incestuous. Societies differ as to\nhow they define incest. Genetic reasons are sometimes offered, but\nall the Biblical cases cannot be dealt with that way. Why can't\na man sleep with his step mother--assuming that his father is\ndead and that he has \"married\" her? How does this case differ\nfrom the *duty* to marry one's brother's childless wife.\n\nAre these two cases parallel? Does the Bible prohibit some incestuous\nmarriages and homosexual marriages for the same reason, perhaps\nthat God knows they are not good for us and yet we are incapable\nof understanding why.\n\nP.S. Please don't bother writing me to tell me that I am a homophobe,\nas some did last time. My mind is not made up on these questions.\nYou don't know whether I am homophobic or not. You don't\nknow me. To call me or anyone else a homophobe without knowing the\nperson may be as much an expression of bigotry as some homophobic\nremarks.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"[reply to jimh@carson.u.washington.edu (James Hogan)]\n \n \nI take the view that they are here for our entertainment.  When they are\nno longer entertaining, into the kill file they go.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nSome people might think it takes faith to be an atheist... but faith in\nwhat?  Does it take some kind of faith to say that the Great Invisible Pink\nUnicorn does not exist?  Does it take some kind of faith to say that Santa\nClaus does not exist?  If it does (and it may for some people I suppose) it\ncertainly isn't as big a leap of faith to say that these things (and god)\nDO exist.  (I suppose it depends on your notion and definition of \"faith\".)\n\nBesides... not believing in a god means one doesn't have to deal with all\nof the extra baggage that comes with it!  This leaves a person feeling\nwonderfully free, especially after beaten over the head with it for years!\nI agree that religion and belief is often an important psychological healer\nfor many people and for that reason I think it's important.  However,\ntrying to force a psychological fantasy (I don't mean that in a bad way,\nbut that's what it really is) on someone else who isn't interested is\nextremely rude.  What if I still believed in Santa Claus and said that my\nbelief in Santa did wonderful things for my life (making me a better\nperson, allowing me to live without guilt, etc...) and then tried to get\nyou to believe in Santa too just 'cuz he did so much for me?  You'd call\nthe men in white coats as soon as you could get to a phone.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\nI saw this question posted a week or so ago, but as far as I could tell no\nanswer appeared on the net. What is the good oil on connecting the Apple\nExtended Keyboard to a PowerBook? The earlier questioner wonderd if this would\nbe too much of a load for the PB and as I want to connect just such a beast I\nam curious.\n\nI haven't got a PB yet so I can't RTFM but I assume that a standard keyboard\nwith a mouse would be ok as the spec sheet I read mentioned connecting an\nexternal keyboard. But is the Extended plus mouse pushing it?\n\nAny help gratefully recieved. I will summarise to the net if necessary.\n\nThanks, John Collins.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"NO SURRENDER!\nDelivered by Lenda Jackson at the RKBA Rally in Denver, April 18, 1993\n\nIt is a fact of modern life that urban residents, particularly women, feel\nthreatened. A certain number of them actually are threatened. There are\nimmediate threats, the things that women will tell you they're afraid\nof. The noise downstairs at night. The lonely walk to the car. The\nstranger at the door. The abusive husband, finally kicked out of the\nhouse as he threatens to hurt her and their children. The burglar... The\nmugger...the rapist. \n\nAnd what are we told is the solution? Move. Get a dog. Keep the door\nlocked. Call the police. as a next-to-last resort, learn martial arts. and\nalways, there's the implied question \"what's a pretty little thing like\nyou doing without a husband around to protect you?\n\nBut what if you don't like dogs? Like living alone? Don't have 10\nyears to devote learning judo?\n\nWhat if, after examining the facts, a woman learns that \"rape victims\nusing armed resistance were less likely to have the rape completed -\nand were less likely to be injured(Kleck,124) than those using any\nother form of resistance (Kleck,126) (also true for\nrobbery\/assault)(Kleck,123) \n\nWhat if, to our horror and despair, we find that citizens cannot depend\non the police for effective protection - they usually respond after a\ncrime has been committed. In truth, the Supreme Court has held that\nthe police are not responsible for protecting any individual, only the\nwhole community.\n\nAs a society, are we going to ask women, once again, to sacrifice\nthemselves? Are we going to continue to deny women the ability to\nhelp themselves?\n\nHere's a thought. Neil Smith, in his book The Probability Broach, says\n\"no 220 pound thug can threaten the well being or dignity of a 110-\npound woman who has two pounds of iron to even things out.\" But if\na woman decides to protect herself, with the easiest, most efficient\nmeans possible, people - especially other women - are horrified.\n\"Eughh, how could you? I'd be terrified!\" they ask. How could you\nhurt someone? They'll repeat the lie: it'll just get taken away from\nyou. In truth, 1% of \"defensive gun uses\" result in the offender taking\nthe gun away from the victim.(122,Kleck)\n\nWell, despite the lies, and the social pressure, some of us have already\nmade that hard choice. We've decided that we are not going to be\nvictimized by the muggers, burglars or rapists. We're buying more\nguns than every before. We're learning how to use them - and teaching\nothers, women and men, how to use them. Most importantly, we are\npreparing ourselves mentally to use our firearms for our own defense.\nWe're taking our own security, literally, into our own hands. We're\ngoing to stop begging and pleading and marching and WHAT WE\nINTEND IS TO REALLY TAKE BACK THE NIGHT.\n\nBut there's another threat, more insatiable than any mugger, more\nsecretive than any burglar, more soul-destroying than any rapist.\n\nThat menace is government, and it threatens us all. We know that\ngovernments, throughout time, have suppressed rights and oppressed\npeople. It's the way they survive.\n\nIn our names and with our money, it interferes with innocent people\nboth at home and abroad. It lies to us, cheats us, steals from us and\nthreatens us with violence. No one knows exactly what it'll do next -\nwhat freedom we will lose because some government goon decides\n\"it's for your own safety\" or \"we know best\". Any person who acted\nlike government does would be psychoanalyzed within an inch of his\nlife and locked up as a habitual offender.\n\nBut this monster called government persists, and grows. And we, who\nshould be its masters, have become its unwilling slaves. Do you doubt\nme? Then why did you file your income tax? \n\nLike any reasonable person, I believe that being afraid of something\nthat can hurt you is smart, and that paranoia isn't crazy if someone's\nreally after you. And make no mistake, they're after you and they're\nafter me. Their names are familiar: Brady and Reynolds, Groff,\nMetzenbahm, Moynihan, and Clinton. If we're lucky, they'll settle for\nour assault rifles, our shotguns, our handguns and our ammunition. \n\nAs citizens, we have only two choices. They are the same two choices\ngiven to women: to surrender or to fight. \n\nSurrender leads to the gulag, to the genocide of Pol Pot, to the\ndisappearances, to Dachau. I do not intend to surrender. \n\nA battle can be philosophical or political: in the main, the people keep\nthe government honest by threatening to vote it out of office. But if\nthey have to, they will keep in mind the words of Thomas Jefferson:\n\"the tree of liberty must be well watered with the blood of patriots.\"\n\nAs a patriot, I will point out the error in the government's ways. I will\ndo my best to vote the villains out of office. I will protest, and write,\nand speak, and teach our children justice, honor and truth. And always\nremember that Rebellion can lead to Bunker Hill and Saratoga......or it\ncan lead to Tiananmen Square. \n\nWhen the time comes to stand up, if I have to give my life to keep\nthem from going too far, if there is a Tiananmen Square in our future,\nI intend to be there. And no matter what lies they tell and no matter\nwhat laws they pass, I intend to meet them with something more\nsubstantial in my hand than a brick. ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"WESTER DIGITAL - Caviar 280  Internal Hard Drive\n     85.3 MB     3.5\" Half Height  IDE\n     1.5 Years Old\n     Great Shape!\n\n   $160 or closest offer!","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Another article that fell between the cracks:\n\n As evidence for the Resurrection, it is often claimed that the Disciples\nwere tortured to death for their beliefs and still did not renounce\ntheir claim that Jesus had come back from the dead.\n Now, I skimmed Acts and such, and I found a reference to this happening\nto Stephen, but no others. Where does this apparently very widely held\nbelief come from? Is there any evidence outside the Bible? Is there any\nevidence *in* the Bible? I sure haven't found any...\n\nBriefly, no.  There is widespread folklore, but no good documentary\nevidence, or even solid rumor, concerning the deaths of the Apostles.\nFurther, the usual context of such arguments, as you observe, is \"No\nMartyrs for a Lie\": i.e. the willingness of these people to die rather\nthan recant is evidence for the truth of their belief.  This adds the\nquite stronger twist that the proposed martyrs must have been offered\nthe chance of life by recanting.  Since we don't even know how or\nwhere they died, we certainly don't have this information.  (By the\nway, even in the case of Stephen it is not at all clear that he could\nhave saved himself by recanting).  The willingness of true believers\nto die for their belief, be it in Jesus or Jim Jones, is\nwell-documented, so martyrdom in and of itself says little.  [See\n1Kings18:20-40 for a Biblical account of the martyrdom of 450 priests\nof Baal].\n\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n  Nor is it mine.  What I tried to explain to Marty was that it is clearly\nunderstood that antibiotic exposure is a risk factor for fungal infections\n- which is not the same as saying bacteria prevent fungal infections. \nMarty made this sound like a secret  known only to veternarians and\nbiochemists.  Anyone who has treated a urinary tract infection knowns\nthis. At some centers pre-op liver transplant patients receive bowel\ndecontamination directed at retaining \"good\" anaerobic flora in an attempt\nto prevent fungal colonization in this soon-to-be high risk group.  I also\nuse lactobacillus to treat enteral nutrition associated diarrhea (that may\nbe in part due to alterations in gut flora).  However, it is NOT part of\nmy routine practice to \"reinnoculate\" patients with \"good\" bacteria after\nantibiotics.  I have seen no data on this practice preventing or treating\nfungal infections in at risk patients.  Whether or not it is a \"logical\nextension\" from the available observations I'll leave to those of you who\nbase strong opinions and argue over such speculations in the absence of\nclinical trials. \n  One place such therapy has been described is in treating particularly\nrecalcitrant cases of C. difficile colitis (NOT a fungal infection). There\nare case reports of using stool (ie someone elses) enemas to repopulate\nthe patients flora.  Don't try this at home. \n\n\n  Except that it isn't. At least symptomatically apparent disease.\n\n\n  Seems like this is an excellent argument for ignoring anecdotal\nconventional wisdom (a euphemism for no data) and doing a good clinical\ntrial, like: \n\nAU   Dismukes-W-E.  Wade-J-S.  Lee-J-Y.  Dockery-B-K.  Hain-J-D.\nTI   A randomized, double-blind trial of nystatin therapy for the\n     candidiasis hypersensitivity syndrome [see comments]\nSO   N-Engl-J-Med.  1990 Dec 20.  323(25).  P 1717-23.\n     psychological tests. RESULTS. The three active-treatment regimens\n     and the all-placebo regimen\n     significantly reduced both vaginal and systemic symptoms (P less than\n     0.001), but nystatin did not reduce the systemic symptoms\n     significantly more than placebo. [ . . . ]\n     CONCLUSIONS. In women with presumed candidiasis\n     hypersensitivity syndrome, nystatin does not reduce systemic or\n     psychological symptoms significantly more than placebo. Consequently,\n     the empirical recommendation of long-term nystatin therapy for such\n     women appears to be unwarranted.\n\n  Does this trial address every issue raised here, no.  Jon Noring was not\nsurprised at this negative trial since they didn't use *Sporanox* (despite\nCrook's recommendation for Nystatin).  Maybe they didn't avoid those\ncarbohydrates . . . \n\n\n  Marty, you've also changed the terrain of the discussion from empiric\nitraconazole for undocumented chronic fungal sinusitis with systemic\nhypersensitivity symptoms (Noring syndrome) to the yoghurt and vitamin\ntherapy of undocumented candida enteritis (Elaine Palmer syndrome) with\nsystemic symptoms.  There is significant difference between the cost and\nrisk of these two empiric therapeutic trials.  Are we talking about \"real\"\ncandida infections, the whole \"yeast connection\" hypothesis, the efficacy\nof routine bacterial repopulation in humans, or the ability of anecdotally\neffective therapies (challenged by a negative randomized trial) to confirm\nan etiologic hypothesis (post hoc ergo propter hoc).  We can't seem to\nfocus in on a disease, a therapy, or a hypothesis under discussion. ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":".. \n\nThese seem hardly like the groups to discuss this in, but HUH??? \nAll legitimate power to enforce these rights derives from the consent \nof the governed, not from no steenkin' piece of paper.  Civilized gov'mnt \nis not an autonomous computer program, it's interactive.  The Constitution \nwas made by the people and can be trashed by us - it ain't no sacred \nscripture from which rights flow.  Our 'rights' come from our souls. \nAnd I sure didn't see any request to vote on trashing the sky.  \nAgain - my opinion only - we keep our rights by using them, not going to \nsome court.  \n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":": I have wondered why a pitcher is given 8 pitches when he enters the\n: game.  Let's be serious.  The relief pitcher has normally been\n: throwing out in the bullpen for a few minutes.  Does he really need 8\n: more pitches?\n\n  If the relief pitcher didn't get 8 pitches, there wouldn't be enough time\nto:\n\n  1) Play \"Hit The Road Jack\"\n  2) The Iron City Relief Pitcher Commercial\n  3) The announcers to detail to us exactly what drove the \n      previous one from the game\n  4) A detailed biography, both personal and statistical, of the \n      new guy throwing his 8 pitches.\n  5) Get really cool super-slo-mo pictures for Diamond Vision to put up\n      by said pitchers name and stats!","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"WANTED:\n I have to produce a \"Rolling Demonstration\" of some X Window\/Motif software.\nDoes anybody know if there is some Public Domain software to record\/playback X\nWindow events or similar ?\n\nThanks in advance ...\n\nPaul Bamborough bamboroughp@logica.co.uk","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"From tolsty Thu Apr 23 21:32:35 1992\n\tTo: newsserv@newcom.kiae.su\n\tNewsgroups: comp.periphs,comp.graphics.digest,comp.graphics,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted,alt.graphics.pixutils,bit.listserv.omrscan\n\tMessage-Id: <KAJ3nzfm0W@nsk.uucp.free.msk.su>\n\tOrganization: NSK RAN\n\tFrom: Andrey V. Shorin <tolsty@nsk.uucp.free.msk.su>\n\tDate: Thu, 23 Apr 1992 21:32:35 +0200\n\tSubject: Analysis on text reading utils needed (IBM PC)\n\tDistribution: msk\n\t\n\tHi!\n\tDoes anybody know any reliable utils to read english texts with scanner?\n\tI want some analysis on quality of recognition, because I want to read\n\ttexts which I get by fax ( you know -- quality on faxes is rather bad ).\n\tThe scanner I have is B&W and 300dpi. But if there exist any good software\n\tthat needs other specifications, that will be OK.\n\t\n\tPlease, send messages to my E-mail or on conference server, I'll summarize\n\tthem and consider your recomendations.\n\t\n\tTHANK YOU!!!\n\t--\n\t   Andrey V. Shorin\n\t \n\t   Scientific Council on Complex Problem \"Cybernetics\",\n\t   Russian Academy of Sciences","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n  i guess i ought not conclude from this, then, that since you didn't ask to\nbe created, you don't care if you go to hell.  :)\n\n\n\n  i don't consider myself an unthinking sheep.  the bible says god created\nus to be in communion and obedience to him.  the first and only rule was\nto not eat of a certain tree, or else the punishment is distance from him\nand physical death.  god's intention in creating us is to have a relationship\nwith us.  the bible documents god's attempts to have that relationship\nculminating in the person of jesus to bear the consequences of all sin so\nthat all who accept him can have a relationship with god again: the purpose\nof creation.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nPlease let us know if you get a solid answer to the question of legality\nof other strong cryptosystems.   So far any references I have seen\nhave been weasel-words (\"more plans in the future, etc\"), but nothing\nthat could be taken as a \"NO (strong crypto will NOT be outlawed)\".  I\nhave heard (not verified) that the Crime Bill before Congress has\nlanguage that either requires escrow of keys, or that will regard\nall systems 'unapproved' for public use, like strong cryptosystems\nnot trivially broken by the Govt, or without escrowed keys\nwhich one cannot readily change (read: use being only permitted by\nfolks with 'special' connections, or government agencies) as either\n'terrorist tools' or 'drug dealers tools'.  Not outlawed SPECIFICALLY\nbut by added Civil Forfeiture powers, and clever wording, EFFECTIVELY\noutlawed for all intents and purposes.\n\nNow, for some idle speculation ... for those who don't care, hit 'n' now.\n\nCrypto being EFFECTIVELY outlawed could be done without SPECIFICALLY\noutlawing ANY class of crypto systems.  For example, a crowbar, hammers,\nscrewdrivers, and such can be regarded as 'burglar tools' pretty much\nat the whim of the authorities, based primarily on the individual\npossessing them in the car, etc. not being in a trade that makes routine\nuse of these tools.  In a like manner, one who has no 'legitimate need'\n(gov't definition) for strong crypto software or systems, and is caught\nusing them, might find themselves in possession of 'terrorist tools'.\nIn other words, if one is not working for a corporation with extremely\nsensitive commercial data that warrants (in the Fed's opinion) strong\nsecurity, or a government agency, and securing only work-related data,\nnot personal data, one will most likely be nailed on this if discoverd.\nA personal desire for 'privacy' most certainly will not be regarded as\na 'legitimate NEED': \n\"Why do you want such strong security, especially from 'legitimate law\nenforcement'? An individual with 'legitimate' endeavors would not be so\nconcerned - government is not in the business of revealing your personal\nsecrets to the public... so you must be trying to conceal or planning\nto conceal some unlawful or criminal activity...  DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING\nTO HIDE, HMMMM?\"\nI expect that initially there will be some people selected either at\nrandom, or who happen to have been 'troublemakers' for the purposes of\n'making an example' for those who think the Feds are not SERIOUS about\nthis... (mega ':-('s)\n\nOne asking about a 'right' to privacy will probably get a response that\nthere is no constitutional right for privacy spelled out AS SUCH (an\nargument used in the abortion debate):  \"You do NOT have a right to have\nsecurity that 'Legitimate Law Enforcement cannot break'\" (as suggested\nin the Clipper Press Release).\n\nThis, in a nutshell, is what I find so extremely frightening.  Not only\nfor crypto systems, as in this case, but for the precident it will set,\nlaying the groundwork for future erosions of privacy (escrow of both\nsafe-deposit box keys - 'master' keys or combinations for privately\nowned safes, and so on.  WHY NOT?)...\n\nI cannot think of a better way to make an 'end-run' around those\n'inconvenient' parts of the US Constitution.  A law cannot be easily\ndeclared unconstitutional, if it there IS NO SPECIFIC LAW.  It would\nsimply be a minor extension of the RICO statutes or WoD policies. A\nsimple policy decision, just like so many of the gun regulations are\nmainly BATF policy decisions...  The Conversation of the Fed agents\nwould go something like:\n\n\"We are gonna seize your home, your computers, your car, your bank\naccount, (you don't have to undress and give us yer clothes, unless you\nhave a floppy in yer pocket) because they are all connected with your\nacquisition, transport, and use of 'terrorist tools' and\/or 'drug dealers\ntools' - part of the WoD or against terrorism, ya unnerstand... no\ndecent American Subject would be against these noble causes...\".\n\n\"Note we are not accusing YOU of any wrong-doing ... we are only saying\nyour HOME, COMPUTERS, CAR, BANK ASSETS are connected with wrong-doing\nSOMEHOW - they housed, transported, and funded these 'terrorist tools'.\nOnly a civil matter ...  <heh-heh> ... We had this 'tip'...<grin>\".\n\n\"Therefore, the Constitutional Protection on Individual rights do NOT\napply - we are 'arresting' the tainted PROPERTY... not YOU...<evil grin>\".\n\n\"If you wish to deposit a BOND, hire some attorneys, and go to court to\nPROVE the innocence of this property (that they are not 'terrorist tools'\nand again to prove they are not also 'drug dealers tools'), go ahead,\nwe have no problem with that!  'Course, with your bank assets seized,\nno car, computer, or home, (probably no job, too) and your\nless-than-limitless resources, you might run into some minor practical\ndifficulties <grin>...\".\n\nTHAT is what has me going so damned ballistic...  It is EXACTLY how\nthe logic goes when someone gives a 'tip' that your home has been\nused to store DRUGS...  Note no trace of drugs need to be found on\nthe property... only some bozo who will say 'yup.  I stored stuff in\nthat dude's house...' (probably to get out of a 10 year sentence for\ndealing).  Much more cost effective to let him walk, to bust another\nday, and hit the jackpot with YOUR assets...\n\nOb Disclaimer (of course)...\n\nOk, note that I am not a lawyer, and can only base these speculations\non what I have read\/heard\/been told regarding past Civil Forfeiture\ncases, and how they are used to augment the budgets of assorted agencies,\nor to get 'cooperation' of folks who just want to be left alone, or who\ndo not wish to be put in a risky situation (especially in areas where\nthey are denied either meaningful police protection, AND the means to be\nable to even pretend to defend themselves, as is quite common back East,\nlike NJ, MA, NYC, Wa DC, or out West in CA).  These people have the\nchoice of cowering under the government boot, or cowering under threats\nof pissed off drug dealing gang-bangers... helpless in either case...\nAll behind some dude who drops a dime on you for his gain, or behind\nthe Feds wanting to 'make an example'...  Civil Forfeiture being the 'hook'.\n\nPoint is, are these speculations way out of line, or are they all too\ntypical, and if so, does the extension to crypto and just about anything\nthat the Feds regard as 'inconvenient' seem reasonable?  And if not\nwhy not (what are our guarantees, besides the government promises)?\n\nNONE?\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"The price you have on the 650 8\/80 seems very good. I too would like to know\nwhere it is from\u001cif it is not giving away secrets.\n\nThanks, Alan.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
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{"text":"\nThe cases aren't really comparable.  A project like a freeway requires\npublic hearings, court action, appeals, advance determination of\nrestitution, and so on.  The razing of the Moghrabi district in East\nJerusalem happened within hours of the end of the hostilities of the 6\nDay War.  The residents were given only two or three hours' notice to\npack up and find accomodations elsewhere.  They had no chance of\npublic hearing, debate, appeal, negotiation or anything.  It was get\nout or die in the rubble.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nSorry Ian, I haven't toyed with it in several years. I haven't seen\nthe insides in quite a few years. I just saw the post lagging for\nquite a few days, and thought I'd toss in my $0.02. I assume the 6507\nwas functionally similar to the 6502 (was it also made by MOS\nTechnologies?). I really am more versed in the (6502 based) Atari\ncomputers. The 2600 came later on.\n\n\nIn the Atari computers, the \"CIA\" chip you refer to sounds an awful\nlot like the CTIA (Color Television Interface Adapter) chip used in\nthe early models. Later Atari upgraded this to the GTIA (Graphics\n...). Other colorful literature stated that the GTIA might have stood\nfor \"George,\" the developer of the chip.\n\n\nFunny, I had an old and new model. The old one was SIGNIFICANTLY heavier.\n\n\nSorry, I am way out of line here. My first microcontroller I built was\na MC68701 based chipset with 128 bytes onboard. That was not easy to\nwork with (in addtion to a small 2K on-board EPROM).","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Disclaimer -- This is for fun.\n\nIn my computerized baseball game, I keep track of a category called\n\"stolen hits\", defined as a play made that \"an average fielder would not\nmake with average effort.\"  Using the 1992 Defensive Averages posted\nby Sherri Nichols (Thanks Sherri!), I've figured out some defensive stats\nfor the centerfielders. Hits Stolen have been redefined as \"Plays Juan\nGonzalez would not have made.\"\n\nOK, I realize that's unfair.  Juan's probably the victim of pitching staff,\nfluke shots, and a monster park factor.  But let's put it this way:  If we\nreplaced every centerfielder in the league with someone with Kevin's 55.4% out\nmaking ability, how many extra hits would go by?\n\nTo try and correlate it to reality a little more, I've calculated Net\nHits Stolen, based on the number of outs made compared to what a league\naverage fielder would make.  By the same method I've calculated Net Extra \nBases (doubles and triples let by).\n\nFinally, I throw all this into a a formula I call Defensive Contribution, or\nDCON :->.  Basically, it represents the defensive contribution of a player.\nI add this number to OPS to get DOPS (Defense + Onbase Plus Slug), which\nshould represent the player's total contribution to the team.  So don't\ntake it too seriously.  The formula for DCON appears at the end of this\narticle.\n\nThe short version -- definition of terms\nHS -- Hits Stolen -- Extra outs compared to Kurt Stillwell\nNHS -- Net Hits Stolen -- Extra outs compared to average fielder\nNDP -- Net Double Plays -- Extra double plays turned compared to avg fielder\nNEB -- Net Extra Bases --  Extra bases prevented compared to avg. fielder\nDCON -- Defensive Contribution -- bases and hits prevented, as a rate.\nDOPS -- DCON + OPS -- quick & dirty measure of player's total contribution.\n\nNational League\n\nName            HS   NHS   NEB   DCON    DOPS\nNixon, O.       34    12    15   .083    .777\nGrissom, M.     48    18    12   .072    .812\nJackson, D.     46    13    20   .060    .735\nLewis, D.       25     8    -6   .029    .596\nDykstra, L.     25     5    -5   .013    .794\nDascenzo, D.    10    -5    10   .001    .616\nFinley, S.      32    -2     2  -.003    .759\nLankford, R.    39     4   -12  -.007    .844\nMartinez, D.    21     5   -16  -.017    .660\nVanSlyke, A.    30    -4   -17  -.040    .846\nSanders, R.      7   -10    -4  -.059    .759\nButler, B.       1   -29     5  -.088    .716\nJohnson, H.      3   -12   -19  -.118    .548\n\nOrdered by DOPS\n\n.846 VanSlyke\n.844 Lankford\n.812 Grissom\n.794 Dykstra\n.777 Nixon\n.759 Finley\n.759 Sanders\n.735 Jackson\n.730 *NL Average*\n.716 Butler\n.660 Martinez\n.616 Dascenzo\n.596 Lewis\n.548 Johnson\n\nAmerican League\n---------------\n\nName            HS   NHS   NEB   DCON    DOPS\nLofton, K.      57    32    17   .220    .947\nWilson, W.      47    26     0   .125    .787\nWhite, D.       52    25    28   .119    .812\nFelix, J.       22     0    32   .063    .713\nDevereaux, M.   43    16     0   .047    .832\nMcRae, H.       38    11    -1   .038    .631\nYount, R.       31     8    -3   .022    .737\nKelly, R.       13    -6    -3  -.025    .681\nJohnson, L.     23    -5   -13  -.040    .641\nGriffey, K.     15    -9   -12  -.052    .844\nPuckett, K.     13   -13   -15  -.063    .801\nCuyler, M.       6   -10    -6  -.088    .503\nGonzalez, J.     0   -21   -15  -.095    .738\n\n\nOrder by DOPS\n\n.947 Lofton\n.844 Griffey\n.832 Devereaux\n.812 White\n.801 Puckett\n.787 Wilson\n.738 Gonzalez\n.737 Yount\n.713 Felix\n.709 *AL Average*\n.681 Kelly\n.641 Johnson\n.631 McRae\n.503 Cuyler\n\nMore discussion --\n\nDCON formula:  ((NHS + NDP)\/PA) + ((NHS + NDP + NEB)\/AB)\nWhy such a bizzare formula?  Basically, it's designed to be added into the\nOPS, with the idea that \"a run prevented is as important as a run scored\".\nThe extra outs are factored into OBP, while the extra bases removed are \nfactored into SLG.  That's why I used PA and AB as the divisors.\n\nFor more discussion see the post on Hits Stolen -- First Base 1992\n-- \nDale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"[To the moderator: I posted this about a week ago but it never showed\n                   up (locally) on the net.  If this has already\n                   actually been posted, please fill free to flush\n                   this copy.  --N]\n\nFrom: db7n+@andrew.cmu.edu (D. Andrew Byler)\n\n1] A english translation of this can be found in:\n   \"The Acts of the Apostles, translated from the Codex Bezae, with an\n   introduction on its Lucan Origin and Importance\", J. M. Wilson\n   (London, 1923).\n\n2] Another work that might be useful is:\n   \"The Acts of the Apostles, a Critical Edition with Introduction and\n   Notes on Selected Passages\", Albert C. Clark (Oxford, 1933;\n   reprinted 1970).\n\n(This is an edition of text of Acts that makes the assumption that the\ntext in Codex Bezae is the more authentic.  I don't know if it\nactually contains an english translation or not.)\n\n3] Another useful that discusses many of the variants in detail is:\n   \"The Theological Tendency of the Codex Bezae Cantabrigiensis in\n   Acts\", Eldon J Epp (Cambridge, 1966).\n\n4] The most recent reference I found was an edition in French from the\nearly '80s.  (I can supply the reference if anyone's interested.)\n\n5] Now, many of the works are going to be difficult to find.  So if\nyou're interested in examining the differences in the long recension\nan excellent (and easily obtainable) discussion can be found in:\n   \"A Textual Commentary on the Greek NT\", Bruce Metzger (United Bible\n   Society, 1971).\n\nMetzger's book serves as a companion volume to the UBS 3rd edition of\nthe Greek NT.  It contains a discussion on the reasoning that went\nbehind the decisions on each of the 1440 variant readings included in\nthe UBS3.  Furthermore, notes on an addition 600 readings are\nincluded in aTCotGNT (the majority of these occur in Acts).\n\n   \"[An attempt was made] to set before the reader a more or less full\n   report (with an English translation) of the several additions and\n   other modifications that are attested by Western witnesses ...\n   Since many of these have no corresponding apparatus in the\n   text-volume, care was taken to supply an adequate conspectus of the\n   evidence that supports the divergent readings.\" (p 272).\n\n\n6] Most of the copies of the text of Acts that we have (including the\nones in Vaticanus and Siniaticus) adher pretty closely to the shorter\n(or Alexandrian) version.  The longer version to which you refer is\nusually called the \"Western\" version and its main witness is the Codex\nBezae (althought there are a few other rather fragmentary sources).\n\n7] As far as size, the difference is that in Clark's edition\n(mentioned above) the book of Acts contains 19,983 words whereas the\ntext edited by Westcott and Hort (a typical Alexandrian text) contains\n18,401 words; i.e. a difference of about 8-1\/2%.\n\n8] To answer the obvious questions, no, there are no major revelations\nin the longer text nor major omissions in the shorter text.  The main\ndifference seems to \"expansion\" of detail in the Western text (or, if\nyou prefer \"contractions\" in the Alexandrian).  The Western text seems\nto be given to more detail.  There are some interesting specific\ncases, but this probably not the place to go into it in detail.\n\n9] The discussion over the years as to which of these versions is the\nmore authentic has been hot and heavy.  If there is anything\napproaching a modern consensus it is (i) that neither text represents\npurely the \"authentic\" version, (ii) each variant reading has to be\nexamined on its own merits however, (iii) the variant in the\nAlexandrian text is the \"better\" more often than not.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Once again, someone else with a Gateway Monitor problem, anyone who can\nhelp, please do, it would be much apprieciated.  Thanks in advance.\n\nOk, I have a Local Bus 486\/66 machine, with the Crystal Scan 15inch\nmonitor.  I have 1 meg of loca memory on the ATI ultra pro, w\/ the\nmach32 driver (the newest release).\n\nMy problem is in Windows when I use the 1024 mode. I get shadows down\nthe sides of the screens, and very blurry type in the corners.  The\ntypes on the screen are all out of focus. I've gotten replacement video\ncards, and a replacement monitor.  None of that has helped though.\nCould someone pleae help me with this very frustruating problem.\n\nThanks again,\nJosh Smith","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nTerrance,\n\n  There is a good article entitled:  \"A long-term in vivo bone strain\nmeasurement device,\"  Journal of Investigative Surgery 1989; 2(2): 195-206\nby Szivek JA & Magee FP.\n  I think you can find some others by searching MedLine.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Andrew - continuing the discussion on the Deuterocanonicals...\n\n\nArguably, it is both. Since authority is a matter of both\ncommunicator and recepiant we can say that, for example \"Jesus\nis Lord\" whether the world at large accepts the authority or\nnot. Thus the Bible can be considered for its authoritative\ncontent whether or not it is accepted (This issue is at the\nheart of Pilate's pragmatic question \"What is truth?\" to Jesus\nwhen our Lord was brought before Him. Jesus' reply was to appeal\nto the authority of his Father)\nYou also might like to consider the claimed authority\nrepresented by the statements \"thus says the Lord\" in the Bible,\nwhich claim to put across the exact words of God.\n\nYou fall into the danger of relativism with your rejection of\ninherant authority and claim that it lies only in the \"community\nof faith\" - does something become truth because it is accepted?\nThe main thrust of my argument is that there is a Godward\ndirection as well as a manward (which is where the reference to\nRev 22 came in.)\n\n\nIf we narrowed it down to the predictive elements - which will\ncut out some of the 39 accepted OT books as well - we\nnonetheless have criteria for determining the validity of the\nbook: Jesus' standards were that \"Scripture cannot be broken\".\nCan you name a single prophecy that fits the bill in the Apocrapha?\n(ie definitely fulfilled AFTER it has been written)\n\n\nDoes it have a subjective 'ring of truth' about it - and does\nother evidence that has come to light contradict or confirm the\nauthenticity? (archaeological, other textual evidence for\nexample)\n\n\nWhat this is getting at is the relationship between text and\nreader. It is to do with the quality of writing, which should\nhave the ability to fire the mind, affect our thought life and\ncause us to act in a certain way - there is something of this\nin Jesus' quote: \"Man does not live by bread alone, but by every\nword that proceeds from the mouth of the Lord\". (Matt 4.4)\n\n\nDoes the Catholic Church give the same authority to the\nApocrapha as to the accepted 66 books? Certainly it is not as\nwidely used as the OT and NT.\n\n\nThink about what I have said above. You may want to revise your\nconclusion. In addition think about other 'sacred writings', eg\nthe Koran, the book of Mormon and how and why you would\ncategorise them using the above principles. One word of caution\n- you may find some 'reflected glory' in some of these books: in\nthat the 'inspired quality' may be derived from the Bible.\nRemember that Lucifer is quite capable of appearing as an angel\nof light and quoting Scripture.\n\n\nWhat were you thinking of?\n\n\nWe've lost the point and the context here. I am not arguing that\nthe statement in Rev. can be applied indescriminately, just that\nthe whole acceptance\/rejection idea does not just follow on from\nman-made traditions - but there is I believe an act of God\ninvolved in the selection and criteria of what is classified as\nScripture and comes under the definition of 2Tim 3.16.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"On a recently acquired Gateway 2000 machine, when starting Windows,\nthree copyright statements flash on the screen right after the MS logo\ndisappears and before ProgramManager takes over.  This does not happen\non any other of our machines, and I am wondering whether this is a\nfeature or whether this is related to several problems we are having\nwith the machine.\n\nThe system is a Gateway 2000, 4DX-33 machine.\n\nThe messages that appear are:\n\n\t(c) Copyright 1989-1992 Western Digital Corporation\n\t\tAll Rights Reserved\n\t(c) Copyright 1985-1992 Congruent Corporation\n\t\tAll Rights Reserved\n\t(c) Copyright 1985-1992 Microsoft Corporation\n\t\tAll Rights Reserved\n\nThe AUTOEXEC.BAT file looks like this:\n\n@ECHO OFF\nPROMPT $P$G\nSET MOUSE=C:\\MSMOUSE\nC:\\MSMOUSE\\MOUSE\nPATH=C:\\;C:\\DOS;C:\\WINDOWS;c:\\123;c:\\wp51;f:\\apps;f:\\system;f:\\winapps;f:\\public\nSET TEMP=C:\\WINDOWS\\TEMP\nlh wd8003e -n 0x62 5 0x280 0xd000\nlh winpkt 0x60 0x62\nlh ipx\nlh netx\nf:\\login\\login\nwin :\n\nThe CONFIG.SYS file looks like this:\n\nDEVICE=C:\\WINDOWS\\HIMEM.SYS\nDOS=HIGH,umb\nDEVICE=C:\\WINDOWS\\EMM386.EXE NOEMS X=D000-D1FF\nSTACKS=9,256\nFILES=50\nBUFFERS=30\nSHELL=C:\\DOS\\COMMAND.COM \/P \/E:1024\n\nDoes anyone know what is going on?  Any help would be much\nappreciated.\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I have a 386DX clone, with a DTC ESDI controller and Toshiba 660\nmbyte\ndrive. Since installing DOS 6.0, when I tried to re-install software\nfrom\n5 1\/4 or 3 1\/2 disks, when I mount the second..third..fourth disks, DOS\n6\ndoesn't recognize that I have changed floppies. If I do a \"DIR\", I see\nthe\ncontents of the previous diskette. The only way to get DOS to recognize\nthat\ndiskettes have changed, is to do a \"label\", and then to not label them.\n\n   Buying DOS 6.0 has been a colossal mistake. DOS 5.0 was stable, and\nworked\nwell with my equipment. I have Superstor Pro, and DESQVIEW\/X ( with\nQEMM, \nManifest, etc), so there aren't any features of DOS 6 that I am using. I\nguess\nI should roll back to DOS 5.0 but I am wary of what will happen when I\ndo it.\n\n   Besides, like a fool, I don't have a DOS 5. bootable disk anymore.\nI've\nmade the same mistakes I caution my users not to make. Like sheep, I\njoined \nthe crowd flocking to DOS 6. Baaa Baaad system administrator.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nI agree with this consensus that it should not have been written the way\nit was.  My doctor - who claims to have introduced Dr. Crook to the\npossibility of candida overbloom causing diffuse symptoms way back in\n1961 (I have no reason to doubt him on this) - does not like the book\nbecause 1) it makes too many unfounded claims, and 2) is horribly written\nfrom a scientific viewpoint.  On the other hand, my doctor has always kept\nan open mind on the subject and does believe in aspects of the \"yeast\nconnection\".\n\nBut, I believe there is some truth to the book.  Hopefully the right\nclinical studies can be done to separate the fact from the fiction.  In\nthe meantime, I'd still encourage people who have \"incurable\" chronic sinus\nproblems (especially if they overused antibiotics), to find a doctor to\nadminister a systemic-type anti-fungal such as itraconazole (along with\nliver panels before, during and after treatment just to play it safe).  It\nis an empirical approach for sure, but when all else fails, and your ENT\nsays \"sorry, you'll just have to live with it\", it is time to step out and\ntry an empirical approach backed up with significant anecdotal evidence\n(Dr. Ivker), supported by plausible theories (outlined by Marty).  At\nthis stage you have little to lose, particularly if you use itraconazole and\nhave the proper monitoring - the health risk has been shown through extensive\nclinical studies both in Europe and the U.S. to be very minimal with\nrelatively healthy (i.e., non-AIDS) patients.  I'm glad I did this, since I\nsaw remarkable results after only one week on Sporanox (itraconazole).  Of\ncourse, your mileage may vary a lot - everyone is different so it may not\nwork for you.  Talk to your doctor.\n\nJon Noring\n\n-- \n\nCharter Member --->>>  INFJ Club.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I got the following today from Gary Risebrough and it worked fine:\n\nExcerpts from mail: 29-Apr-93 Re: ol{v}wm 3 virtual keybo..\nITO2@aodc.gov.au (554)\n\n\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nTickets are very hard to get, even at the box office at Camden Yards.\nIf you really want to see a game here (I go to school in Baltimore),\nprice should not be an issue. Tickets go up to $15, but you should be willing\nto go as high as $20-25 if you really want to come.\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"} \n} >Oh, yea, and Chris Bosio pitched a NO-HITTER.  One over the minimum, two\n} \n} Have there ever been any other no-hitters in Mariner history?\n\nRandy Johnson, June 2, 1990 against the Tigers.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n[Jesus' comments about how Christians have to follow the OT deleted...]\n\n\nExodus 31:12-17.  How many people have you put to death for working on\nthe Sabbath?\n\n\nLeviticus 17:10.  How as that medium-rare steak last night?\n\n\nLeviticus 19:19.  What did you wear to work friday?\n\n\nDeutromony 18:1.  I can you can now justify discrimination.\n\n\nRight.\n\n\nShe is.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nTry ImageMagick. I cannot test it but one told me it does 24bit.\nAnyway, are you SURE your Xserver supports 24bit TrueColor visuals ?\nCheck with xdpyinfo !\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I forot to mention the free widget foundation which maintains a freely\navailable set of widgets.  Info on this group can be gotten from \nfree-widgets-request@kazoo.cs.uiuc.edu   this list is maintained by volunteers\nand you may subscribe to a mailing list which discusses various \naspects of using and abusing these widgets\n\nBrian","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nPerhaps all of us hackers have become (ICK) PROFESSIONALS?  I have noticed\nmy and my associates progression from hackers to computer professionals.\nIt is rather distasteful.  It occurs when a series of things happen:\n\n   1) one's ego outgrows one's talent\/knowledge\n   2) one's financial situation takes precedence\n   3) A change in priorities (esp. family) possibly leading to 2)\n   4) the hacker's attitude makes the shift from \"fun\" to \"work\"\n   5) one's vocation burns away the creativity needed for \"the hobby\"\n\nor the biggest killer (IMO)\n\n   6) one's dreams are (sadly) shattered on the hard rocks of society's\n      version of reality.  Without the dream the motivation dies, without\n      the motivation the effort seems useless.\n\nAnother set of problems stems from our children.  While most of us remember\nwhen there were several completely different computer systems, our children\nare growing up with just a few choices (MSDOS\/Mac\/Amiga) and do not enjoy\nthe diversity we did.  I remember the great computer fallout of the early\neighties vividly as I was forced to stop using skills developed for systems\nthat were now dead.  The diversity of systems before then allowed for widely\ndivergent paradigms.  That period forced hackers to continually learn new\nsystems in the attempt to keep up.  Not to mention that if a program was\nneeded we were forced (in most situations) to write it ourselves as a\ncommercial offering was just not available.  Now our children are being\ntaught the \"user\" mentality.  As the number of us \"old-timers\" dwindle we are\nnot being replaced by the next generation.\n\nKendall.\n-- \n   Kendall Sears                           krsear02@ulkyvx.louisville.edu\n   Programmer                             \/\/\/\n   Child Development Unit                \/\/\/ Amiga\n   Department of Pediatrics          \\\\\\\/\/\/ Currently running AmigaOS 3.0\n   University of Louisville           \\XX\/ And Supporting Unix Sys V Rev 4.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nIf my powerplay was as bad as Montreal's, I'd be thanking Stewart for calling\nas few penalties as possible. Quebec's powerplay is lethal and it is to their\nadvantage to have a penalty-filled game where they can clean up with their\nsuperior powerplay. \n\nMontreal really lost that game (and game 2) because Patrick Roy is well on\nhis way to having another one of his trademark awful playoffs. The man is\ntruly overrated. Quebec has scored six goals on Roy and four, perhaps five, \nwere quite stoppable. ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nAd hominem, sarcastic innuendo?  Absolutely.  Forgotten?  Hardly.\nBored?  Not really.   I try not to confuse \"life on a.a.\" with life.\n\nI just can't overcome the urge to tease\/taunt folks who bound FAQ-less\nonto a.a. with such a chip on their shoulder.  To listen to you,\none might think we belonged to some church!\n\nI appreciate the patience of others who questioned your posting\non a line-by-line content basis, though it's hard to know what\nimpact that might have had, as compared to, say, \"shovelling\".\n\n\nI think I only lamented that, whatever the initial satisfactions,\npast a certain point circular abuse-heaping was just that.\n\n\nSincere questions:  Why are you here?  What are you looking for?","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nI have had my Probe looked at twice by my local dealer (where I purchased\nthe car) ... the first time, they made this problem worse.  The second time,\nafter advising them of the service bulletin mentioned on my ford-probe mailing\nlist (they said they didn't know of the bulletin), they adjusted the window and\nmade it *much* better.  However it now makes a \"scritch scritch\" noise on rough\nroads, and *still* squeals when I open\/close the window in wet weather (anyone\nelses's do this?)\n\n\nI got two keys with my car, but only ONE remote-entry push-button thingie!\nBut then, I bought my 93 with 2500 miles, and  I think it may have been a\nrepossession ... so I'm not surprised something was missing :-(\n\n\nI am seriously considering following the advice in the owners manual where\nit describes the procedure to follow if \"you discover something on your Ford\nthat could ... cause ... serious injury ... threaten lives ... etc).  Something\nabout notifying the National Traffic Safety group as well as Ford.  Those little\n\"you've-got-to-position-the-fingers-perfectly-to-make-it-beep\" buttons are\nTERRIBLE.\n\nWell, I guess that's good in a way, but in a way it's bad.  When someone\nhears that kind of horn, they expect to see a big American car.  They may\nnot associate the sound with a small \"jap car\" style car (like the Probe is).\n\n\nThe mudflaps help a lot.\n\n\nI have always been a 5-speed guy.  Almost every car I've ever owned has been\na 5-speed.  Because I got a good deal on this car with the 2500 miles, I\n(knowingly) overlooked the fact that it has an automatic.  But it is a pretty\nhigh-tech automatic.  It is a fully electronicaly controlled 4-speed with\ntorque converter lockup.  Even with the automatic, I'm getting 35 mpg on the\nhighway, driving 65-70!.    (but of course driving > 65 is illegal, so I \nprobably made that sentence up).  :-)     Around town the mileage has been\naround 25-27, not bad for an automatic.   Of course it doesn't have the\n\"control\" of a 5-speed, but since I do a lot of city driving, it turns out\nto be very convenient.  It's nice to be able to drink a cup of coffee and\ndrive at the same time (although that, too, is illegal here in \n\"we-like-to-control-your-life Massachusetts\" :-)\n\n\n\nShakes and rattles has been my main gripe.  I've gotten them to fix the\nworst of them, but I fear that with the rather harsh ride, the car will\nbe a virtual potpouri of rattles when it gets older.\n\n\nOn my 89 Probe GL, I got about 40K out of the original Goodyears,\nand had driven the replacement tires (Bridgestone) 50K miles when\nI tradeed the car.  The 195\/65(60?)VR14 Firestones on my 93 Probe\nlook like they're designed for performance (ie rather wide, shallow\ntread, etc), so they probably won't last as long.  But the car handles\nvery very very well.  It sticks to the road like glue, even on a rough\nsurface.\n\n\nDefinitely.  Ford\/Mazda did a very very nice job on this one.  The\ncar has a \"much more expensive than it actually is\" look and feel to it.\n\n\nHaving driven an 89 Probe for 4 years, I find the 93 suspension \"interesting\".\nThe car actually drives much better than the 89 ... it is a very firm\nride, and you definitely know about each and every bump in the road.  Yet\nthe car remains very civilized on even the bumpiest roads.  You Hear and\nfeel the bumps, yet the car retains its posture very well.\n\n\nWell I wouldn't encourage passenger-carrying in the Probe unless the\nperson in the front seat likes to sit with his knees to the dash.  As\nmentioned in the Consumer Reports write-ups, \"consider the back seat\nas a parcel shelf\".  No biggie to me though (if it had been, I'd not\nhave bought the car!  (but it's definitely not a family car)).\n\n\nA\/C is a MUST on any Probe from 89 - 93.  The 93 in particular sends out\na REAL BLAST of cool air when the AC is on MAX.  That \"lots of glass\" you\nmentioned is what gives the car the \"very good visibility\" reports you\nsee in all the write-ups.  Most \"sports\/sporty\" cars don't have that\ngood visibility.\n\n\nThe complaints I've heard re: exhaust system (on 93's) have been on \nthe GT.  Of course being a different engine, that is a differeent \nexhaust system.\n\nI was one of those with an 89 who qualified for the free replacement.\nSince I had already replaced the muffler when I received the notice, \nI was\/am due a refund from Ford.  I applied in February and am Still\nwaiting.   :-(\n\n\nYes.  I was pretty amazed when I had my car in for some touch-up\nadjustments this past week, and they had to keep it overnight (too busy\nfor them to get to it) and they offered to pay for a rental).  They \ndid make me pay for taxes and insurance though :-(\n\n\nI have to agree that they seem to have some QC problesm.  But I seriously\nfeel the car design is sound, and expect it to do very well.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I hate it when my posts do that... \n\n386dx 20mhz mb w\/ 4meg of 60ns ram... make offer\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Hi,\n   What presentation package would you recommend for a Bible teacher?\n   I've checked out Harwards Graphics for Windows. I think its more\nsuitable for sales people than for preachers or Bible teachers to present\nan outline of a message.\n\n   I'm looking for one that:\n*  is great for overhead projector slides.\n*  has or imports clip arts\n*  works with Word for Windows or imports Word for Windows files.\n*  works with inkjet printers\n   If you know of any that meets part or all of the above, please let me know.\nPlease email your response as I don't keep up with the newsgroup.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"[Space ad proposed]\n\nThis is undoubtedly the sickest thing to come down the marketing pipe\nin years, and the best reason for resurrecting the \"Star Wars\" killer\nsatellite system.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nAutomatic revocation of your license for a year.  I'm not sure it's the\n\"toughtest\" law around, but NC has absolutely no sense of humor with\nrespect to driving laws, anyway.  I think they put you in jail and sell\nyour first child into slavery for passing a school bus...\n\nA bill breezed through the NC House to lower the intoxification level\nfrom .1 to .08.  It faces stiff opposition in the Senate.  Recently,\nthe Highway Patrol took a few of the opposition Senators out and gave\nthem some shots, and when they hit .07, put them on a course dodging\ncones.  They failed, and will probably change their votes as a result.\n\nFor some bizarre reason, NC is the only state where the governer has no\nveto power over legislation coming out of the state Congress, so his\nopinion on the matter is moot.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"AW>>>My 85 Caprice Classic with 120K+ miles has finally reached\n  >>>the threshold of total number of mechanical problems that\n  >>>I am forced to post :).  Anyone out there who might be\n  >>>able to give me some pointers on one or more of the below,\n  >>>please e-mail or post!\n\nAW>>>1. When making turns, especially when accelerating,\n  >>>there is usually a loud \"thunk\" from the rear of\n  >>>of the car.  Sounds like it could be the differential.\n\nWheel bearing, ujoint.\n\n\nAW>>>2. On starting the car, I get blue (oil) smoke from\n  >>>the exhaust for 5-10 seconds.  Exhaust valves\n\nBad valve stem seals.\n\nAW>>>3. Brakes.  More pedal travel than I feel comfortable\n  >>>with, but master cylinder is full and fluid is\n\nWorn pads, rear brakes not adjusted up tight or worn out drums.\n90% of low pedal complaints usually are from a rear brake problem.\n\nAW>>>4. Tranny.  Tranny problems seem to be slowly getting\n  >>>worse -- takes almost 2 seconds to downshift from\n  >>>3rd to 2nd on heavy throttle application, and more\n  >>>recently, it is reluctant to shift from 2nd to 3rd.\n  >>>Fluid (checked with car running with tranny put\n  >>>through all the gears and then back to park, as per\n  >>>Haynes manual) is red and clear, and is on full mark.\nPossible modulator valve if equipped with one. Also could be the\nkickdoen cable.\n\nAW>>>5. My springs all around are just about shot -- I have\n  >>>4 new shocks on, but car still skips out on bumps\n  >>>in turns at moderate to high speed.  How hard are\n  >>>they to change?  Can they be reconditioned?\nDifficult on front. Easy on rear. They are not expensive. about $75-$100\nfor front and less than $50 for the rear.\n\nIts also kind of dangerous to work on the front springs without the\nproper equipment.\n                                                        Don\n\n\n * SLMR 2.1a * I put spot remover on my dog....Spots gone!\n                                              ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Just thought I would add $0.02 to DeskJet thread. I got my\nfirst one in college about 5 or so years ago.\n\n\tI've been a happy HP user of the DeskWriter for Macintosh for\npast 5 years. I got one just a few months after their release. And I\ngot software revision 1.0a (now I'm up to rev. 3.1. Our family (sister\nand father) have each purchased their own DW's after seeing mine go\nfor one year unscathed (their stuck to their trusty ImageWriter II's).\nThe original DW has gone for 5 years at moderate personal use. I would\nsay that it has gone through at least 15,000 sheets, and around one\n(small) ink cartridge every 3 months or so.\n\n\tMy brother might take this DW now (I'm probably gonna give it\nto him), and I am looking to upgrade to a color DW. The chief\nadvantages\/disadvantages I've found over the years are:\n\nAdvantages:\tQuick (2-3 ppm), Quiet (roomate can sleep while it's\nprinting), AppleTalk Networkable (unfortunately the original wasn't,\nso look out if you buy used. I rewired our home with phonenet\nAppleTalk connectors, and while home, we can all use my dad's one\nDW!), and cheap (now run ~$300). BTW, you can upgrade older DW's to\ncolor or for appletalk, I dunno if HP still does the upgrades, but I\nreceived many offers (I just didn't ned it however). Also, crisp\nlaser-quality output is a wonder (used to really impress those\nImageWriter Dot-Matrix people so much so, that I had to charge $0.25\nper sheet to stop my college dorm neighbors from bothering me at all\nhours of the night....)\n\nDisadvantages.\tInk used to be hard to find, and wasn't cheap, and\nwasn't originally water-proof. While HP has done wonders with the ink\n(I dunno if it's still toxic), it is still subjet to smearing and\nrunning (if you run around in the damp Boston rain, and get your\nbookbag completely soaked). Ink now runs about $14-$15 for small carts\n(I get mine from Elek-Tek in Chicago, I think they're now down to\n$12). The ink carts used to say they're dated for only 6 months, but\nI don't think they say so anymore. We stick to a 4 month supply (of\nabout 3 carts). We use cheap Hammerhill Laser Print paper (after\nfooling for a long time. Laser\/Xerox paper is also good). Smearing\ndoesn't happen, unless you have a brand new ink cart and you grab the\npaper and smudge it all over as soon as it comes out of the machine.\nOther disadvantages are : No Postscript (this can be an advantage in\nspeed, usually). Ways around this are Ghostscript or Freedom of Press\nsoftware solutions. I bet HP probably has a PS prototype inkjet, but\nthey won't release it for fear of hurting LJ sales.\n\nIn the end, the primary advantages of laser are true postscript\n(unless you go for cheap lasers), and fused toner (no smearing, even\nwhen soaking in water). Lasers are slightly sharper, but the only\ninstance where I needed precise layouts was Printed Circuit Board\nTransparencies for PhotoEtching. I found a Textronix color Phaser\nPostscript (Thermal Wax Transfer) to work the best to make PCB\nnegatives directly onto a transparency.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"K{ \n{<speaking of CPU fans>\n{ \n{>                      Many use clips - make sure you use heat sink\n{>grease, or heat transfering tape, or you will have wasted your money.\n{ \n{Do these CPU Fans also have heat sinks?  Do you recommend using both\n{on the same chip (i.e. heat sink sandwiched between CPU and Fan)?\n{ \n{If we are just talking about a CPU Fan blowing directly on the CPU chip,\n{I can't see how \"heat sink grease\" is necessary (or even desireable).\n{-- \n{ \n{=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=\n{ \n{  Edward McClanahan                    edm@wrs.com\nI have a PC Power and cooling fan and it is a heat sink with a built in fan \nthat glues on top of the CPU.  Even if the fan quits you still have the heat \nsink fins to aid cooling.  The glue, of course, is the type that has high \nthermal conductivity.\n\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n   Nice post Chuck, but you made just one mistake. Bones is a right-handed\n   pitcher. However, Hrbek's grand slam came off Graehme Lloyd, a lefty.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nA typical Armenian revisionist. As in the past in x-Soviet Armenia, \nand today in Azerbaijan, for utopic and idiotic causes the Armenians\nbrought havoc to their neighbors. A short-sighted and misplaced\nnationalistic fervor with a wrong agenda and anachronistic methods\nthe Armenians continue to become pernicious for the region. As usual,\nthey will be treated accordingly by their neighbors. Nagorno-Karabag \nis a mountainous enclave that lies completely within Azerbaijan with \nno border or history whatsoever connected to x-Soviet Armenia. Besides \nthe geographical aspect, Nagorno-Karabag is the historic homeland and \nthe 'cradle' of the artistic and literary heritage of Azerbaijan, which \nrenders the Armenian claims preposterous, even lunatic. No one in his or \nher mind could have imagined that one day such a devious turn of event \ncould have plagued the Azeris. One cannot even imagine the reverse case \nto occur, for the Armenians either would have slaughtered the Azerbaijanis, \nor put them to forced exile to maintain their own majority. Where was she?\n\n\n                An Appeal to Mankind\n\nDuring the last three years Azerbaijan and its multinational\npopulation are vainly fighting for justice within the limits of\nthe Soviet Union. All humanitarian, constitutional human rights\nguaranteed by the UN Charter, Universal Declaration of Human\nRights, Helsinki Agreements, Human Problems International Forums,\ndocuments signed by the Soviet Union - all of them are violated.\n\nThe USSR's President, government bodies do not defend Azerbaijan\nthough they are all empowered to take necessary measures to\nguarantee life and peace.\n\nThe 140,000 strong army of Armenian terrorists with Moscow's\ntacit consent wages an undeclared war of annihilation against\nAzerbaijan. As a result, a part of Azerbaijan has been occupied\nand annexed, hundreds of people killed, thousands wounded.\n\nSome 200,000 Azerbaijanis have been brutally and inhumanly\ndeported from the Armenian SSR, their historical homeland.\nTogether with them 64,000 Russians and 22,000 Kurds have also\nbeen driven out, a part of them now settled in Azerbaijan.\nSome 40,000 Turkish-Meskhetians, Lezghins and representatives \nof other Caucasian nationalities who escaped from the Central\nAsia where the President and government bodies did not guarantee\nthem the life and peace also suffered from these deportations.\n\nOne of the scandalous vandalisms directed not only against\nAzerbaijan science but the world civilization as well is the\nArmenian extremists' destruction of the Karabakh scientific\nexperimental base of The Institute of Genetics and Selection \nof the Academy of Sciences of the Azerbaijan SSR.\n\nWe beg you for humanitarian help and political assistance,\nfor the honour and dignity of 7 million Azerbaijanis are\nviolated, its territory, culture  and history are trampled,\nits people are shot. There is persistent negative image of\nAzerbaijanians abroad, and this defamation is spread over \nthe whole world by Soviet mass media, Armenian lobby in the\nUSSR and the United States. \n\nOne of the myths is that all events allegedly involves and\ngenerated by interethnic collisions and religious intolerance\nwhile the truth is that all these shootings and recent \nevents stem from the territorial claims of Armenia on\nAzerbaijan.\n\nIt is a well documented fact that before the conflict there\nwere no frictions between Armenians and Azerbaijanis on the\nissue of Karabakh. Hundreds and thousands Armenians placidly\nand calmly lived and worked in Azerbaijan land, had their\nrepresentatives in all government bodies of the Azerbaijan\nSSR.\n\nWe are for a united, indivisible, sovereign Azerbaijan, we \nare for a common Caucasian home proclaimed in 1918 by one\nof the founding fathers of the Azerbaijan Democratic \nRepublic - Muhammed Emin Rasulzade.\n\nBut all these goals and expectations are trampled upon the\nSoviet leadership in favour of the Armenian expansionists\nencouraged by Moscow and intended to create a new '1,000\nYear Reich' - the 'Great Armenia' - by annexing the \nneighboring lands.\n\nThe world public opinion shed tears to save the whales,\nsuffers for penguins dying out in the Antarctic Continent.\n\nBut what about the lives of seven million human beings?\nIf these people are Muslims, does it mean that they are\nless valuable? Can people be discriminated by their \ncolour of skin or religion, by their residence or other\nattributes?\n\nAll people are brothers, and we appeal to our brothers\nfor help and understanding. This is not the first appeal\nof Azerbaijan to the world public opinion. Our previous\nappeals were unheard. However, we still carry the hope\nthat the truth beyond the Russian and Armenian propaganda\nwill one day reveal the extent of our suffering and\nstimulate at least as much help and compassion for\nAzerbaijan as tendered to whales and penguins.\n\n\t\tTHE COMMITTEE FOR PEOPLE'S HELP TO \n                KARABAKH (OF THE) ACADEMY OF SCIENCES \n                OF THE AZERBAIJAN SSR\n\n\n\"PAINFUL SEARCH ..\"\n\nTHE GRUESOME extent of February's killings of Azeris by Armenians\nin the town  of Hojali is at last emerging  in Azerbaijan - about\n600 men,  women and  children dead  in the  worst outrage  of the\nfour-year war over Nagorny Karabakh.\n\nThe figure  is drawn  from Azeri investigators,  Hojali officials\nand casualty lists published in the Baku press. Diplomats and aid\nworkers say the death toll is in line with their own estimates.\n\nThe 25  February attack on Hojali  by Armenian forces was  one of\nthe last moves  in their four-year campaign to  take full control\nof Nagorny Karabakh,  the subject of a new  round of negotiations\nin Rome on Monday. The bloodshed was something between a fighting\nretreat and  a massacre, but  investigators say that most  of the\ndead were civilians. The awful  number of people killed was first\nsuppressed by  the fearful  former Communist government  in Baku.\nLater  it  was blurred  by  Armenian  denials and  grief-stricken\nAzerbaijan's wild  and contradictory  allegations of up  to 2,000\ndead.\n\nThe State Prosecuter, Aydin Rasulov,  the cheif investigator of a\n15-man  team  looking  into  what Azerbaijan  calls  the  \"Hojali\nDisaster\", said  his figure of 600  people dead was a  minimum on\npreliminary  findings.  A similar  estimate  was  given by  Elman\nMemmedov, the mayor of Hojali. An  even higher one was printed in\nthe Baku newspaper  Ordu in May - 479 dead  people named and more\nthan 200 bodies reported unidentified.  This figure of nearly 700\ndead is quoted as official by Leila Yunusova, the new spokeswoman\nof the Azeri Ministry of Defence.\n\nFranCois Zen  Ruffinen, head  of delegation of  the International\nRed Cross  in Baku, said  the Muslim imam  of the nearby  city of\nAgdam had reported a figure of  580 bodies received at his mosque\nfrom  Hojali, most  of  them  civilians. \"We  did  not count  the\nbodies. But  the figure seems  reasonable. It is no  fantasy,\" Mr\nZen Ruffinen said. \"We have some idea since we gave the body bags\nand products to wash the dead.\"\n\nMr  Rasulov endeavours  to give  an unemotional  estimate of  the\nnumber of  dead in the  massacre. \"Don't  get worked up.  It will\ntake  several months  to  get a  final  figure,\" the  43-year-old\nlawyer said at his small office.\n\nMr Rasulov  knows about these  things. It  took him two  years to\nreach  a firm  conclusion that  131  people were  killed and  714\nwounded  when  Soviet  troops  and tanks  crushed  a  nationalist\nuprising in Baku in January 1990.\n\nThose  nationalists, the  Popular  Front, finally  came to  power\nthree weeks  ago and  are applying pressure  to find  out exactly\nwhat  happened when  Hojali, an  Azeri town  which lies  about 70\nmiles from the border with Armenia, fell to the Armenians.\n\nOfficially, 184 people have so  far been certified as dead, being\nthe  number of  people that  could be  medically examined  by the\nrepublic's forensic department. \"This  is just a small percentage\nof the dead,\" said Rafiq Youssifov, the republic's chief forensic\nscientist. \"They were the only bodies brought to us. Remember the\nchaos and the fact that we are  Muslims and have to wash and bury\nour dead within 24 hours.\"\n\nOf these 184 people, 51 were women, and 13 were children under 14\nyears old.  Gunshots killed  151 people,  shrapnel killed  20 and\naxes or  blunt instruments  killed 10.  Exposure in  the highland\nsnows killed the last three.  Thirty-three people showed signs of\ndeliberate mutilation, including ears,  noses, breasts or penises\ncut off and  eyes gouged out, according  to Professor Youssifov's\nreport. Those 184 bodies examined were less than a third of those\nbelieved to have been killed, Mr Rasulov said.\n\nFiles  from  Mr  Rasulov's  investigative  commission  are  still\ndisorganised -  lists of 44  Azeri militiamen are dead  here, six\npolicemen there,  and in handwriting  of a mosque  attendant, the\nnames of  111 corpses brought to  be washed in just  one day. The\nmost heartbreaking account from  850 witnesses interviewed so far\ncomes  from Towfiq  Manafov,  an Azeri  investigator  who took  a\nhelicopter  flight  over  the  escape route  from  Hojali  on  27\nFebruary.\n\n\"There were too many bodies of  dead and wounded on the ground to\ncount properly: 470-500  in Hojali, 650-700 people  by the stream\nand the road and 85-100  visible around Nakhchivanik village,\" Mr\nManafov  wrote in  a  statement countersigned  by the  helicopter\npilot.\n\n\"People waved up  to us for help. We saw  three dead children and\none  two-year-old alive  by  one  dead woman.  The  live one  was\npulling at her arm for the mother to get up. We tried to land but\nArmenians started a barrage against  our helicopter and we had to\nreturn.\"\n\nThere  has been  no consolidation  of  the lists  and figures  in\ncirculation because  of the political  upheavals of the  last few\nmonths and the  fact that nobody knows exactly who  was in Hojali\nat the time - many inhabitants were displaced from other villages\ntaken over by Armenian forces.\n\nTHE INDEPENDENT, London, 12\/6\/'92\n\n\nHEROES WHO FOUGHT ON AMID THE BODIES\n\nAREF  SADIKOV sat  quietly  in the  shade of  a  cafe-bar on  the\nCaspian Sea  esplanade of Baku and  showed a line of  stitches in\nhis trousers, torn  by an Armenian bullet as he  fled the town of\nHojali just over three months ago, writes Hugh Pope.\n\n\"I'm still  wearing the same  clothes, I don't have  any others,\"\nthe  51-year-old carpenter  said,  beginning his  account of  the\nHojali disaster. \"I was wounded in five places, but I am lucky to\nbe alive.\"\n\nMr Sadikov and  his wife were short of  food, without electricity\nfor more than a month, and cut off from helicopter flights for 12\ndays. They  sensed the  Armenian noose was tightening  around the\n2,000 to  3,000 people left in  the straggling Azeri town  on the\nedge of Karabakh.\n\n\"At about 11pm  a bombardment started such as we  had never heard\nbefore,  eight  or  nine   kinds  of  weapons,  artillery,  heavy\nmachine-guns, the lot,\" Mr Sadikov said.\n\nSoon neighbours were  pouring down the street  from the direction\nof  the  attack. Some  huddled  in  shelters but  others  started\nfleeing the town,  down a hill, through a stream  and through the\nsnow into a forest on the other side.\n\nTo escape, the  townspeople had to reach the Azeri  town of Agdam\nabout 15  miles away. They  thought they  were going to  make it,\nuntil at  about dawn  they reached a  bottleneck between  the two\nArmenian villages of Nakhchivanik and Saderak.\n\n\"None of my group was hurt up to then ... Then we were spotted by\na  car on  the road,  and the  Armenian outposts  started opening\nfire,\" Mr Sadikov said.\n\nAzeri militiamen fighting their way  out of Hojali rushed forward\nto force  open a  corridor for the  civilians, but  their efforts\nwere mostly  in vain.  Mr Sadikov  said only  10 people  from his\ngroup of  80 made it  through, including his wife  and militiaman\nson.  Seven  of  his  immediate  relations  died,  including  his\n67-year-old elder brother.\n\n\"I only had time to reach down  and cover his face with his hat,\"\nhe said, pulling his own big  flat Turkish cap over his eyes. \"We\nhave never got any of the bodies back.\"\n\nThe first groups were lucky to have the benefit of covering fire.\nOne hero  of the  evacuation, Alif  Hajief, was  shot dead  as he\nstruggled to change  a magazine while covering  the third group's\ncrossing, Mr Sadikov said.\n\nAnother hero,  Elman Memmedov, the  mayor of Hojali, said  he and\nseveral others  spent the whole day  of 26 February in  the bushy\nhillside, surrounded by  dead bodies as they tried  to keep three\nArmenian armoured personnel carriers at bay.\n\nAs the  survivors staggered the  last mile into Agdam,  there was\nlittle comfort  in a town from  which most of the  population was\nsoon to flee.\n\n\"The night  after we reached  the town  there was a  big Armenian\nrocket attack. Some people just  kept going,\" Mr Sadikov said. \"I\nhad to  get to the  hospital for treatment. I  was in a  bad way.\nThey even found a bullet in my sock.\"\n\nVictims of  war: An  Azeri woman  mourns her  son, killed  in the\nHojali massacre in February  (left). Nurses struggle in primitive\nconditions  (centre)  to  save  a  wounded  man  in  a  makeshift\noperating  theatre set  up  in a  train carriage.  Grief-stricken\nrelatives in  the town of Agdam  (right) weep over the  coffin of\nanother of the massacre victims. Calculating the final death toll\nhas been  complicated because Muslims  bury their dead  within 24\nhours.\n\nPhotographs: Liu Heung \/ AP\n             Frederique Lengaigne \/ Reuter\n\nTHE INDEPENDENT, London, 12\/6\/'92\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nLarger drives tend to have multipule platters which can allow adjacent\nbits to be read in parallel resulting in higher throughput.  They also\nhave higher spindle speeds which leads to both increased throughput and\nreduced seek times (due to reduction of rotational latency.)","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"In <1993Apr19.221331.26203@pony.Ingres.COM>, garrett@Ingres.COM  sez:\n[re Michael Friedman and Phil Ronzone]\n\nTry asking Michael whether he still thinks the M-16 \"is one of the\nmost beautiful machines around.\"  Or ask Phil if he still claims that\nthe Due Process and Equal Protection clauses of the 14th amendment\napply to the federal government.  The responses should be as\nenlightening as the recent name-calling, and about as relevant.\n\n-- \nThey told me you had gone totally insane, and that your methods were unsound.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nIt is evident you did not read my post carefully. I wasn't\ntrying to tell you not to eat MSG products and produce, nor was I\narguing for or against MSG. I was simply questioning the logic of\nyour statement that simply because\n(a) one is not allergic to something, and\n(b) likes eating that\nit follows that one could keep eating whatever it is. \nIn my post, I had clearly said that I don't know enough about MSG.\nThe statement \"don't eat X because its bad\" is just _your_ \ninterpretation of nutritional info out there.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":": >          \"hose\"  h-o-s-e\n\n: \tDork.  d-o-r-k.\n\n\nOh, really?  \nHere's what you posted earlier in another thread.  Before you thrash\nothers for making simple mistakes or flaunt your wonderful \"vi skill\",\nthink about how you make them feel as well as how you look (you spelled\nit right). ;-}\nFor years you have assaulted others with offensive language, etc.  From\nthe content of many of your posts, you appear to have a lot of useful\ninformation to share with people, but it gets overshadowed when you come\nacross as an abusive smart-ass.  \n\n\n: In article <C5LoBL.DDw@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> marshatt@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Z\n: >\n: > Remember roads in America are NOT designed for speeds above 80\nmeaning they\n: >would be safe at 55-65. Roads like the Autobahn are smoother,\nstraiter,\n: >wider and slightly banked.\n\n:       Well, that's news.  Before 1975 the speed limit on Texas\nhighways\n: was 75.  The speed limit on the New Jersey Turnpike (I-95) was 70.\nThere\n: were no speed limits in Nevada or Montana.\n\n: >east becoming hidden by trees after about 1,000 ft and continued to\nthe\n: >left strait north. I wanted to turn north, checked the south lane,\nrolled","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Hello netters,\n\n   I'm new to this board and I thought this might be the best place\nfor my post.  I have a question regarding satellite technology seen\nin the movie Patriot Games.  In the movies, the CIA utilizes its\norbitting sats to pinpoint a specific terrorist camp in N Africa.\nThe photos taken by the sats are stunning!  I know that sats are\ncapable of photographing the license plates of vehicles.  My\nquestion is this:  The camp in question was taken out by the\nBritish SAS.  And while the SAS was in action, the CIA team was\nwatching in the warroom back in Langley, VA.  The action of the SAS\nwas clear and appeared to be relayed via a sat.  The action was at\nnight and the photography appeared to be an x-ray type.  That is,\none could see the action within the tents\/structures of the camp.\nDoes such techology exist and what is it's nature?  i.e., UV, IR,\nx-ray, etc.\n\nPS  Who wrote the book Patriot Games?","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"s:\n  I have a 1991 Toyota Camry Deluxe for sale...\n  70K miles, power everything, grey, 3 years newer than above for $10K.\n   All highway miles.  Excellent condition...\n                                                            Rob Fusi\n                                                            rwf2@lehigh.edu\n                                                            New Jersey\n                                                            609-397-2147\n                                                            ask for Bob Fusi","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n  Me too.  Our local used book store is the second largest on the\n  West Coast, and I couldn't find a copy there.  I guess atheists\n  hold their bibles in as much esteem as the theists.\n\n\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\\/\\ \n\nBob Beauchaine bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM \n\nThey said that Queens could stay, they blew the Bronx away,\nand sank Manhattan out at sea.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nI think you've got an off-by-one error in your memory. :-)  MM bought the\nsatellite-building side of GE.  E, not D.  MM and GD are still competitors.\n\n\nBetter, yes, but we're not talking order of magnitude.  (Especially if you\nwant to use Titan IV, which belongs to the USAF, not MM.)\n\n\nSure, you can get a heavylift launcher fairly cheap if you do it privately\nrather than as a gummint project.  But we're still talking about something\nthat will cost nine digits per launch, unless you can guarantee a large\nmarket to justify volume production.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":": You might want to re-think your attitude about the Holocaust after\n: reading Deuteronomy chapter 28.\n\nOn the contrary, after the Holocaust, I would be _very_ cautious about my\ninterpretatoin of Deuteronomy 28.  Not everything that happens is in\naccordance with God's will.  (You might guess which side of the\npredestination issue I am on.)  I will never _assume_ that evil is \npunishment by God, especially when I am speaking of the evil that falls on\n_someone else_.  For my own life, I will work to discern the hand of God\nin the evil that befalls _me_.\n\nSee the discussion earlier on Luke 13.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Is there such a document either in the Bookstores or possible\non an ftp site somewhere?  Nothing really fancy, just something\nthat gives a listing of the available widgets, and the resources\nthat are pertinant to them, and what flavors of Motif they\noccur in.\n\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I'm writing a mail management system using Word for Windows 2.0 as\na front end. The user dials up a remote system and downloads a batch\nof mail as \"foo.txt .\" I've set up an AutoExec macro in Winword to load\n\"foo.txt\" OK, but subsequent invocations of the macro will of course\npose file name contention problems.\n\nWhat I'd really like to do is to create an AutoExit macro in Winword\nthat would move \"foo.txt\" to a specified directory, rename it using\nthe current date and time, and delete the original \"foo.txt .\"\n\nIn other words, \"foo.txt\" gets renamed as \"5012300\", say, on May 1\nat 23:00- the user gets a time-indexed backup of his mail files and\n\"foo.txt\" is freed up for the next packet of mail, since my AutoExec\nmacro points to it.\n\nMy main question is this: \n\nHow may one rename a file from within a WordBasic macro to include a \ntime\/date variable in the new filename? \n\n\nThanks-\n\n=======================================================================\n  \"If you ever reach total enlightenment while drinking a beer,\n   I bet it makes beer shoot out of your nose.\" -- Jack Handey","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\nDon't forget seamless Win apps on OS\/2. MS couldn't do it (viz WLO)\nbut IBM managed to do it right.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"R. Goldstein (rdg@world.std.com) sez:\n: As the subject says, I am moving from Mass. to Calif. and will be driving\n: mostly on Interstate 80.\n: Any advice from folks who have done it before?\n\n- Plan your gas stops in major-city areas to avoid the 25 cent-per-gallon\n\"only gas station for 50 miles and you're an out-of-towner\" surcharge.\n\n- Prepare your car.  Don't forget things like your fuel & air filters.  If\nyou're loading your car up, consider putting your spare on TOP of your stuff\njust in case of a flat.  In my x-country trip, a tire disintegrated in the\nCalifornia desert & it took me 20 minutes to unload all my stuff to get to\nthe tire.\n\n- If you have a hatchback, cover all your stuff with a white bedsheet to help\nkeep the stuff and your car cool, as well as *possibly* avoiding theft.\n\n- McDonalds have good, clean bathrooms.\n\n- invest in a $30 CB & magnetic roof antenna.  It may help if you're stranded,\nand you can always ask people for places to stop for food, etc.\n\n- Many times police like to hang out in the 1st 10 miles after you enter a\nnew state, to catch all the speeders who have \"escaped\" the previous state.\n\n- Same as above; when you enter a 55mph city zone after hours and hours of\n65mph rural interstate\n\n-=$>Dave<$=-\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Forsale :- One Microbotics Hardframe SCSI Controller for the A2000. Make me\nan offer.\n\n----\nE. Malcolm Crosby","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"In <1t7529$agf@agate.berkeley.edu> miyamoto@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU (Carleton\n\n\n\n\nYou're right.\n\nYou cannot read or write a Mac or Apple II 800K 3.5\" disk or Apple II\n5.25\" disk without extra hardware. However, Mac 1.44MB disks can be read\nand written in a PC 3.5\" HD drive with software only. ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
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{"text":"How hard or easy would it be to have a combo mission such as a solar sail on\nthe way out to the outer planets, but once in near to orbit to use more normal\nmeans..\nSeems that everyone talks about using one system and one system only per\nmission, why not have more than one propulsion system? Or did I miss\nsomething.. ?? or did it die in committee?\n==\nMichael Adams, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu -- I'm not high, just jacked\n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"thanks a bunch,\n\n-nate","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nIt is also interesting to note that Powell (and maybe Koons) were found\nguilty of aiding and abetting the deprival of King's civil rights...but,\ntwo others who also beat King and all the others who watched were not.\nGo figure?  Can you say sacraficial lambs?  Can you say appeal?\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nAccording to \"Quotations from Chairman Cherry\", Don was playing in\nSpringfield. He and another player had to pay some fines; the other\nplayer had his paid off, but not Don didn't want to.\n\nDon called the other player a \"teacher's Pet\", and the other player\nreplied \"Ah, that's just sour grapes\".","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I know this is a long shot, but does anyone know what solvent I should \nuse to clean duct-tape adhesive from carpet?\nSomeone taped wires to the carpet, and now it is time to move out.\n\nIs the solvent the same as what's used to clean up the goop in coax?\n(whatever that is ... but it just barely ties this query into \nsci.electronics)\n\nThanks for your help\nBest regards,\nruck","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\tWell know I know how you can afford a Harley.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I posted an informational request about any electronically available\narticles on cryptographic algorithms a couple of days ago.  As I\nmentioned, I was interested, in particular, in DES and Public-Key --\nbut also wouldn't mind learning about others.  As I said, I can read\nan intro-graduate level text book, having had some mathematics, though\nnot much number-theory per se.  I'd like to see the technical details\nof the mathematics of cryptography, as oppossed to the popularizations\nof things like _scientific am_ which just say, \"then you find a\n*really* big prime number....\".\n\nFollowing my request, several people were so kind as to suggest\nreading-lists, which I hope to get around to.  Two other people were\nso *very* kind as to send large documents, which I presume were actual\narticles (about 1000 lines each); but I've stupidly deleted them\naccidentally before having a chance even to skim them.  If they can\nforgive me for my careless use of file-commands, would the original\nsenders be so kind as to resend? Or anyone else who has good\ncrypto-articles at a fairly technical mathematical level? Also,\nftp-able or gopher-able docs would be nice to know about.\n\nYours, Lulu...\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\tOk, you don't like what I have to say.  Would you care to\ndemonstrate how the above list, or any expanded version of it you\nchose to post, demonstrates fairness in the actions of the UN wrt\nIsrael?\n\n\n\tYou make the odd assumption that I read Israeli papers, not\nEuropean ones.  My main source of news is the Economist, a London\nbased magazine.\n\n\tAlso, I do on rare occaisons, read Arab papers, but its hard\nto find English language papers from Arab countries here.\n\n\n\tHave I ever claimed to be objective?  I pointed out, with a 27\nitem list, that Israel is condemned for actions that other nations are\nnot condemned for.  You go off and attack me for reading only Israeli\nnewspapers.\n\n\tIf you'd like to debate this, please do.  If you'd like to\nmake ad hominum attacks, feel free to do that too.  But try not to\nmask one as another.\n\nAdam\n\nAdam Shostack \t\t\t\t       adam@das.harvard.edu","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
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{"text":"\n\n\nSo what? I'm running emu on a 25 MHz 68020 box. I cannot make out ANY\ndifference in performance whether the cursor is set to blinking or\nnot (If you think about it a bit, a cycle of 400 ms is a hell a lot of\ntime for even the slowest PC). Since you would of course only enable\nthe blinking text cursor when your xterm has the input focus, this \napplication is active anyway. To repeat it, a blinking text cursor\ncosts almost nothing in performance, it just needs some thought when\ndesigning the xterm software.\n\nMichael","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"An aquaintence has a 87 Accord.  The driver's side headrest was\naccidentally put in backwards and has jammed.  According to the\ndealer, the only way to get it out is to spend several hours\ndisassembling the seat.  This is the second time I have heard of this\nhappening, and I wonder whether there's an easier way to get the\nheadrest back out.  Has anyone else ever dealt with this problem?\nYour advice would be appreciated!\n\nPlease email, and I will summarize if there is interest.\n\n--\n   _                                         dan@dyndata.com\n  \/ \\_   Dan Everhart                        uunet!{camco,fluke}!dyndata!dan\n  \\_\/ \\____________________________          206-743-6982, 742-8604 (fax)\n  \/ \\_\/                                      7107 179th St SW\n  \\_\/    Dynamic Data & Electronics          Edmonds, WA 98026, USA ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\tBecause everyone but you expects that making alternative methods of \n\tencryption illegal is the next step.  Otherwise the Cripple chip is \n\tutterly worthless.  It should be obvious that \n\t\ta) the Cripple Chip is aimed at spying on ordinary citizens\n\t\t\t\tOR\n\t\tb) that other forms of encryption will soon be illegal.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Cardinals\nfor poor\n\nWithout opening this up for a sabermetric flame war, I would like to\nquestion the notion that \"sitting a rested player down\" has any real\neffect on his long-term performance.  Sure, if a man is tired and needs\nreal rest, then taking a break might be a constructive act.  Perhaps if\na man is mentally \"strained\", then sitting him down might help to the\nextent that that helps him relax.  But I would like to suggest that\nin the long run, players do slump, and benching is probably irrelevant.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"  OOPS - got home and re-checked and found out that it\nISNT the Radius Video Vision which was mentioned as having\nproblems.  None the less, I still have a chance to buy one\nrelatively cheap - can anyone say how well it seems to work,\nand if there has been a newer model introduced (accounting\nfor the price reduction?)\n\nTHANKS and thousands of apologies to Radius ...\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nFine, are you willing to bet that he will bat .400 the rest of the way?\n\nThe point is that he has hurt the Rockies so far; it's that he *will* hurt\nthem, eventually.  Just as much as he hurt the Expos and the Cardinals the\npast couple seasons.\n\n\nIt has happened for the past 3+ seasons; where have you been?\n\n\nWe'll see come September.  (I have an outstanding bet with someone that\nGalarraga's OBP will be less than .300 on June 1.)","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\nDO NOT HEAT THE CCL4 -- IT MAKES PHOSGENE GAS of WW-I poison gas fame\n\n(remember when they used carbon tet in fire extinguishers?)\n\n\n(yes, I know I was yelling)\n\n-- ","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Here is a press release from the White House.\n\n Text of President Clinton's Letter to Congress on Iranian Assets\n To: National Desk\n Contact: White House Press Office, 202-456-2100\n\n   WASHINGTON, May 14  -- Following is a letter\nPresident Clinton wrote to Congress on Iranian Assets:\n\n  TO THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES:\n\n       I hereby report to the Congress on developments since the\n  last Presidential report on November 10, 1992, concerning the\n  national emergency with respect to Iran that was declared in\n  Executive Order No. 12170 of November 14, 1979, and matters\n  relating to Executive Order No. 12613 of October 29, 1987.\n  This report is submitted pursuant to section 204(c) of the\n  International Emergency Economic Powers Act, 50 U.S.C. 1703(c),\n  and section 505(c) of the International Security and Development\n  Cooperation Act of 1985, 22 U.S.C. 2349aa-9(c).  This report\n  covers events through March 31, 1993.  The last report, dated\n  November 10, 1992, covered events through October 15, 1992.\n\n       1.  There have been no amendments to the Iranian\n  Transactions Regulations (\"ITRs\"), 31 CFR Part 560, or to the\n  Iranian Assets Control Regulations (\"IACRs\"), 31 CFR Part 535,\n  since the last report.\n\n       2.  The Office of Foreign Assets Control (\"FAC\") of the\n  Department of the Treasury continues to process applications\n  for import licenses under the ITRs.  However, as previously\n  reported, recent amendments to the ITRs have resulted in a\n  substantial decrease in the number of applications received\n  relating to the importation of nonfungible Iranian-origin goods.\n\n       During the reporting period, the Customs Service has\n  continued to effect numerous seizures of Iranian-origin\n  merchandise, primarily carpets, for violation of the import\n  prohibitions of the ITRs.  FAC and Customs Service investi-\n  gations of these violations have resulted in forfeiture actions\n  and the imposition of civil monetary penalties.  Additional\n  forfeiture and civil penalty actions are under review.\n\n       3.  The Iran-United States Claims Tribunal (the\n  \"Tribunal\"), established at The Hague pursuant to the Algiers\n  Accords, continues to make progress in arbitrating the claims\n  before it.  Since the last report, the Tribunal has rendered\n  12 awards, for a total of 545 awards.  Of that total, 367 have\n  been awards in favor of American claimants:  222 of these were\n  awards on agreed terms, authorizing and approving payment of\n  settlements negotiated by the parties, and 145 were decisions\n  adjudicated on the merits.  The Tribunal has issued 36 decisions\n  dismissing claims on the merits and 83 decisions dismissing\n  claims for jurisdictional reasons.  Of the 59 remaining awards,\n  3 approved the withdrawal of cases, and 56 were in favor of\n  Iranian claimants.  As of March 31, 1993, awards to successful\n  American claimants from the Security Account held by the\n  NV Settlement Bank stood at $2,340,072,357.77.\n\n       As of March 31, 1993, the Security Account has fallen\n  below the required balance of $500 million 36 times.  Iran has\n  periodically replenished the account, as required by the Algiers\n  Accords, by transferring funds from the separate account held by\n  the NV Settlement Bank in which interest on the Security Account\n  is deposited.  Iran has also replenished the account with the\n  proceeds from the sale of Iranian-origin oil imported into the\n  United States, pursuant to transactions licensed on a case-by-\n  case basis by FAC.  Iran has not, however, replenished the\n  account since the last oil sale deposit on October 8, 1992.\n  The aggregate amount that has been transferred from the Interest\n  Account to the Security Account is $874,472,986.47.  As of\n  March 31, 1993, the total amount in the Security Account was\n  $216,244,986.03, and the total amount in the Interest Account\n  was $8,638,133.15.\n\n       4.  The Tribunal continues to make progress in the\n  arbitration of claims of U.S. nationals for $250,000.00 or more.\n  Since the last report, nine large claims have been decided.\n  More than 85 percent of the nonbank claims have now been\n  disposed of through adjudication, settlement, or voluntary\n  withdrawal, leaving 76 such claims on the docket.  The larger\n  claims, the resolution of which has been slowed by their\n  complexity, are finally being resolved, sometimes with sizable\n  awards to the U.S. claimants.  For example, two claimants were\n  awarded more than $130 million each by the Tribunal in October\n  1992.\n\n       5.  As anticipated by the May 13, 1990, agreement settling\n  the claims of U.S. nationals for less than $250,000.00, the\n  Foreign Claims Settlement Commission (\"FCSC\") has continued its\n  review of 3,112 claims.  The FCSC has issued decisions in\n  1,201 claims, for total awards of more than $22 million.  The\n  FCSC expects to complete its adjudication of the remaining\n  claims in early 1994.\n\n       6.  In coordination with concerned Government agencies,\n  the Department of State continues to present United States\n  Government claims against Iran, as well as responses by the\n  United States Government to claims brought against it by Iran.\n  In November 1992, the United States filed 25 volumes of\n  supporting information in case B\/1 (Claims 2 & 3), Iran's claim\n  against the United States for damages relating to its Foreign\n  Military Sales Program.  In February of this year, the United\n  States participated in a daylong prehearing conference in\n several other cases involving military equipment.  Iran also\n  filed a new interpretative dispute alleging that the failure\n  of U.S. courts to enforce an award against a U.S. corporation\n  violated the Algiers Accords.\n\n       7.  As reported in November, Jose Maria Ruda, President of\n  the Tribunal, tendered his resignation on October 2, 1992.  No\n  successor has yet been named.  Judge Ruda's resignation will\n  take effect as soon as a successor becomes available to take up\n  his duties.\n\n       8.  The situation reviewed above continues to involve\n  important diplomatic, financial, and legal interests of the\n  United States and its nationals.  Iran's policy behavior\n  presents challenges to the national security and foreign\n  policy of the United States.  The IACRs issued pursuant to\n  Executive Order No. 12170 continue to play an important role\n  in structuring our relationship with Iran and in enabling\n  the United States to implement properly the Algiers Accords.\n  Similarly, the ITRs issued pursuant to Executive Order No. 12613\n  continue to advance important objectives in combatting inter-\n  national terrorism.  I shall exercise the powers at my disposal\n  to deal with these problems and will report periodically to the\n  Congress on significant developments.\n\n\n                         WILLIAM J. CLINTON\n\n\n  THE WHITE HOUSE,\n      May 14, 1993.\n\n -30-\n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"And the fox has rabies too.\n-- \nDave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I can think of a couple of ways of guaranteeing authenticity in a one-time\npad encrytped scheme, though I'm not sure how to prove that what kind of\nauthenicity they provide.\n \n   An obvious first-attempt might be to prepend a truly random (unpredictable\nfor Eve) block to the message, and then calculate a CRC which included the\nrandom starting block and all of the message.  This could be encrypted after\nthe message.  The problem is, I'm not sure it's impossible to come up with\na message that will hash to the same CRC regardless of the random starting\nblock.  (It intuitively seems like it ought to be hard, but I'm not *that*\nsure....)  Clearly, a crypto-strength hash like MD5 or the SHA would be\nstronger, but again, I'm not sure I'm comfortable claiming that it's\nunbreakable.\n \n   A scheme to use up some of the pad bits to decide how many bits of 0's\nto include in the plaintext stream before going on wouldn't be too bad,\neither.  At the cost of increasing the speed with which you use up your\npad, this could be used to give you arbitrarily low probability that your\nopponent could spoof a valid-looking message, since any deciphered plaintext\nin a spot that should be carrying 0's will show that something funny's going\non.\n \n   If, for each message bit M_i, we used up one random bit, R_i, to decide\nwhether to insert a 0 into the plaintext stream, we'd get a total pad use\nof 2.5 times the message length.  (We'd expand the message size by about\nhalf.)  Each 0 that should appear in the plaintext stream that doesn't is a\nguess for our would-be spoofer.  At each bit, she has to guess.  I'm trying\nto see how to quantify her chances of making it all the way through the\nspoofed message, but it gets a little complicated, because she can get un-\nsynched, and still happen to have a 0 in that place in the spoofed message.\n \n   Now, I can see a simple way of doing this that's got to be as secure\nas a one-time pad, at a cost of using 4 times the message length in pad bits.\n \n   For each message bit, M_i, use one random bit, R_i, and xor them together\nto get X_i.  Now, encrypt the three bits with the one-time pad.  The enemy\nhas no way of guessing what R_i is, so he\/she can't guess what X_i is, either.\nAny change she makes in the ciphertext stream will have to involve a guess\nof what R_i was.  Is there any way to do this without using so many pad bits?\n \n   Spoofing the message is equivalent to correctly guessing as many random\nbits as there are bits in the message.  Clearly, this makes spoofing messages\njust as hard if you know the whole message text as if you know none of it.\nIn fact, it looks to me like this makes it just as hard to generate a spoofed\nmessage with the ciphertext as without it, but I'm not entirely sure about\nthat.\n \n   Is there an easier way of doing this that's provably as secure as the\none-time pad?","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Go to your public library and get the February, 1988 issue of Consumer\nReports.  An article on allergy shots begins on page 96.  This article\nis MUST reading for anyone contemplating allergy shots.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Supra Fax Modem v.32bis external stand alone forsale\nExternal with digital status display\nfax speed up to 14.4 send\/receive\ncompat with class 1,2, group 3\ndata rate @ 14.4\/12\/96\/72\/48\/24\/12\/3\nv.42bis, v.32bis  mnp2-5 hayes compatible \"AT\" command\nwith external cable to your serial port.  works with\nPC, Mac, Amiga.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nMy ENT doctor told me that it is not uncommon for the wife to get a vaginal\nyeast infection after the husband takes antibiotics.  In fact this recently\nhappened to my wife.  Explanation is that the antibiotics kill the yeast's\ncompetition, they then thrive and increased yeast around the penis spread\nthe infection during intercourse.  I was on ceclor for 30 days, then my wife\ngot the yeast.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Did that FAQ ever got modified to re-define strong atheists as not those who\nassert the nonexistence of God, but as those who assert that they BELIEVE in \nthe nonexistence of God?  There was a thread on this earlier, but I didn't get\nthe outcome...\n\n-- Adam \"No Nickname\" Cooper\n\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"[stuff about hard to find atheist books deleted]","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"QUESTION: what's your experience with car wash wax?\n\nThis is the liquid type of wax in bottles that you pour it in\nwater, sponge it on you car, hose it off, and dry it with cloth.\nMany people have used it. It is very easy to work with and gives\nseeminly the same visual results as that of paste type of wax.\n\nBut, does it last long? Does it have any negative effects to car\npaint?\n\nCan you forward your reply directly to my email id? Thanks.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nAh, you taking everything as literal quotation.  No wonder you're confused.\n\nFirst, can I ask that we decide on a definition of \"objective\"?\n\n\nAnd?\n\n\nI'd guess that it might be.\n\n\nIt may be the case that some people are unable to evaluate complex moral\nissues.  Rather than leaving them to behave \"immorally\", it might be better\nto offer them an abstract (nonexistent objective) system of ethics which they\ncan strive towards, coded into rules which they don't have to derive for\nthemselves.\n\nI tend to feel that this is pretty much what we all have as morality\nanyway...\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I have seen various references to 'triple des' recently. Could anyone\ntell me what it is ? From context, I would guess that it means\nencrypting each block 3 times, with a different key each time, but\nI'd like to be sure.\n\nReplies by email preferred - our news is unreliable.\n\nThanks,\n\tRichard\n\n-- \n\n--------------\nPGP Public Key available on request\n--------------\n-- \n\n--------------\nPGP Public Key available on request","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nThe x3270 at export.lcs.mit.edu supposedly does.  I use another x3270\nthat was cleaned up by Brian Ward <ward@math.psu.edu> which adds better\ncolor support, and cleans up _lots_ of bugs, as well as cut&paste.\nI just put it on export.lcs.mit.edu, as x3270v2.65beta.tar.Z.\n\n--Dave","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nTo windows 3.0, yes.\n\n\nIt's definitely dated - I used OS\/2 1.21, & alpha 2.0 (when msft was\ndeveloping it...)\n\n\nI preferred Windows 3.1 because it was more stable & faster than 3.0,\nbut could still run more apps than OS\/2 (again I made this choice\nbefore 2.0 was released).\n\n\nNo, I've seen no such data.\n\n\nhee hee.  good one  ;>  ;>\n\n\n...and one that I've encountered as well...\n\n\nHmm. Are you sure?  I'm speaking from my own experience as an\nOS\/2 _user_. Certainly people in, say, the NT marketing group \nwould be in a unique position to present the results of, say,\nresearch on upcoming NT and OS\/2 apps (vs Windows and MS-DOS apps).\nPart of my point was that just cause one works at microsoft does \nnot mean one has access to such data (if it exists).\n\n\nI will confess to, at times, attacking the poster.  \n\n\nAgain, my point was that not all microsofties are here to \"sell\" \nreaders on our products (which would conflict with the \"no-ads\" \nphilosophy of usenet).  Nor do we necessarily have access to info\nthat others have.\n\nI also get tired of people assuming that microsofties are, like,\nmembers of the BORG.\n\n-jen\n\n-- ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\ni have no experience with State Farm, but i think it's important to\ndifferentiate your experience from a typical \"accident.\"","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nYou are quite correct in your understanding.  The filtering is not\ninterpolation, as that would distort the frequency content of the signal\nyou are listening to.  Generally, these players run the samples thru an\nall-pass filter network.  I have done this for ECG waveforms from a person's\nheart, and the effect is rather spooky.  It actually reconstructs peaks\nthat weren't there (correctly, too!) and fills in the gaps with the\nproperly computed values, just as if there had been a real sample taken at\nthat point.  I use a CPU to do all the math.  It takes a decent (but not\nunreasonable) amount of CPU time to do this.  You can keep up with things\nin realtime if you write efficient code.\n\nIn case you care, the filtering method uses an FIR (finite impulse response)\nfilter.  I'd guess that CD makers use the same kind of method.  Anybody out\nthere know the real answer?  I'd say that they use a tapped delay line with\nresistor\/op-amp weighting to accomplish the filtering.  This strikes me as\nthe most cost effective method for volume production runs.\n\n\n\nActually, I think the only reason they do this is so that they can say that\nthey have a marketting gimic.  I would guess that it is acutally cheaper to\nfilter an oversampled signal than not.  You can use sloppier components and\ngive the filter a roll-off that isn't so sharp.   It's too bad that they\ncharge more for something that (I think) is actually less costly to build.\n\nI seriously doubt that the filters cost the same but are better.  They are\nbuilt to a price spec, and that spec says \"cheap as possible!\". \n\n\n\n  -dave","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nWell, they can't listen in on much of mine, since I already use\ncryptography for much of my electronic mail, and will start using it\nfor my telephony as soon as practical.\n\nHowever, allow me to tell a parable.\n\nThere was once a far away land called Ruritania, and in Ruritania\nthere was a strange phenonmenon -- all the trees that grew in\nRuritainia were transparent. Now, in the days when people had lived in\nmud huts, this had not been a problem, but now high-tech wood\ntechnology had been developed, and in the new age of wood, everyone in\nRuritania found that their homes were all 100% see through. Now, until\nthis point, no one ever thought of allowing the police to spy on\nsomeone's home, but the new technology made this tempting. This being\na civilized country, however, warrants were required to use binoculars\nand watch someone in their home. The police, taking advantage of this,\nwould get warrants to use binoculars and peer in to see what was going\non. Occassionally, they would use binoculars without a warrant, but\neveryone pretended that this didn't happen.\n\nOne day, a smart man invented paint -- and if you painted your house,\nsuddenly the police couldn't watch all your actions at will. Things\nwould go back to the way they were in the old age -- completely\nprivate.\n\nIndignant, the state decided to try to require that all homes have\nvideo cameras installed in every nook and cranny. \"After all\", they\nsaid, \"with this new development crime could run rampant. Installing\nvideo cameras doesn't mean that the police get any new capability --\nthey are just keeping the old one.\"\n\nA wise man pointed out that citizens were not obligated to make the\nlives of the police easy, that the police had survived all through the\nmud hut age without being able to watch the citizens at will, and that\nRuritania was a civilized country where not everything that was\nexpedient was permitted. For instance, in a neighboring country, it\nhad been discovered that torture was an extremely effective way to\nsolve crimes. Ruritania had banned this practice in spite of its\nexpedience. Indeed, \"why have warrants at all\", he asked, \"if we are\ninterested only in expedience?\"\n\nA famous paint technologist, Dorothy Quisling, intervened however. She\nnoted that people might take photographs of children masturbating\nshould the new paint technology be widely deployed without safeguards,\nand the law was passed.\n\nSoon it was discovered that some citizens would cover their mouths\nwhile speaking to each other, thus preventing the police from reading\ntheir lips through the video cameras. This had to be prevented, the\npolice said. After all, it was preventing them from conducting their\nlawful surveilance. The wise man pointed out that the police had never\nbefore been allowed to listen in on people's homes, but Dorothy\nQuisling pointed out that people might use this new invention of\ncovering their mouths with veils to discuss the kidnapping and\nmutilation of children. No one in the legislature wanted to be accused\nof being in favor of mutilating children, but then again, no one\nwanted to interfere in people's rights to wear what they liked, so a\ncompromise was reached whereby all homes were installed with\nmicrophones in each room to accompany the video cameras. The wise man\nlamented few if any child mutilations had ever been solved by the old\nlip reading technology, but it was too late -- the microphones were\ninstalled everwhere.\n\nHowever, it was discovered that this was insufficient to prevent\ncitizens from hiding information from the authorities, because some of\nthem would cleverly speak in languages that the police could not\nunderstand. A new law was proposed to force all citizens to speak at\nall times only in Ruritanian, and, for good measure, to require that\nthey speak clearly and distinctly near the microphones. \"After all\",\nDorothy Quisling pointed out, \"they might be using the opportunity to\nspeak in private to mask terrorist activities!\"  Terrorism struck\nterror into everyone's hearts, and they rejoiced at the brulliance of\nthis new law.\n\nMeanwhile, the wise man talked one evening to his friends on how all\nof this was making a sham of the constitution of Ruritania, of which\nall Ruritanians were proud. \"Why\", he asked, \"are we obligated to\nsacrifice all our freedom and privacy to make the lives of the police\neasier? There isn't any real evidence that this makes any big dent in\ncrime anyway! All it does is make our privacy forfeit to the state!\"\n\nHowever, the wise man made the mistake of saying this, as the law\nrequired, in Ruritanian, clearly and distinctly, and near a\nmicrophone.  Soon, the newly formed Ruritanian Secret Police arrived\nand took him off, and got him to confess by torturing him. Torture\nwas, after all, far more efficient than the old methods, and had been\nrecently instituted to stop the recent wave of people thinking obscene\nthoughts about tomatoes, which Dorothy Quisling noted was one of the\nmajor problems of the new age of plenty and joy.\n\n--\nPerry Metzger\t\tpmetzger@shearson.com","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n \n\nSorry Malcolm, but I rather believe Jesus than you.\n\nCheers,\nKent\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nAn extended ride as a passenger on a 750 ninja.\n\nOwww.\n\nWell, I hate to be a wet sock, but, well...\n\nI was a passenger on many bikes for the longest time before I started\nriding myelf, and I grew to hate long rides on sport bikes.  The passenger\nseats are not designed for long rides.  The passenger positions aren't\neven usually designed for short rides.  I ended up torturing my knees and my\nback by taking long rides as a passenger on sport bikes.  One of the\nreasons I originally liked my current guythingy so much was becase he had\na BMW. :)\n\nI'd suggest a shorter extended ride at first -- a short turn in the mountains\nor some such.  Then see how much pain she's in, and proceed from there.\n\nThe best advice I'd give a beginning passenger:\n\n- Don't get on the bike until the rider says its OK, and work out some sort\n  signal for the rider to tell you when its OK to get off.  After I get on \n  the bike I squeeze my riders hips to tell that I'm ready, and at the stop\n  he nods his head to show its OK for me to get off.\n\n- Keep your feet on the pegs at all times.  Don't wiggle (unless your rider\n  asks you to :)\n\n- The best passengers are those which are unobtrusive.  Echo the movements\n  and lean of your rider.  Look over the shoulder thats most comfortable,\n  but during turns look over the shoulder on the inside of the turn.\n\n- Get used to your rider's shifting style (Riders:  use a reasonably\n  consistent shifting style).  Avoid \"helmet bonk.\"  Helmet bonk is \n  when your rider revs the bike up and then shifts and the sudden change\n  in foreward acceleration causes your helmet to bonk his\/hers.  It\n  gets old real fast.\n\n- When pulling to a stop, put a hand or both hands on the tank to keep\n  your weight from pushing your rider up onto the tank.  Putting your hands\n  on the tank is also a good way to stretch your back if you're in pain,\n  but I'm told it gets harder to steer in turns if you leave them there.\n\n- Switch your hands to the guardrail to stretch your shoulders, but be \n  sure and squeeze your thighs while you're doing it so your rider knows you're\n  still there. :)  The guard rail isn't as safe as holding onto your rider.\n\n- Don't be afraid to ask for frequent stops if you're in pain or\n  losing feeling in your feet.  Passenger seats are not generally designed \n  for comfort.  Work out some sort of pull over signal beforehand.\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nThis is a very impotant update, I will omit just a few lines, and add\nsome \"overhead\" for the sake of the copyright :-)\n\nI say despite all the bad news for Muslims around the world, things are\nshaping up very well, a lot of killings might happen in the near future,\nthough (as if Bosnia is not a lot).\nRight now, I feel like saying what Martillo said : \"the stage is set\".\nI don't think that things will be the same in ten year, \nOn the pessimistic\/realistic side, we can only see the stage set for more\nwars imposed on our people, and governments being remote controlled.\nto fight each other and to oppress their own people, but I am confident\nthey will all fall:\nI venture to list the order: Sudan\/Yemen alliance, Algeria\/Libya in 5 years,\nTunisia one year later but Egypt may face direct colonization very soon to\nprevent an Islamic government which might take over after Egypt attacks \nSUdan and is envolved in atrocities there as it fails to achieve\nvictory.  Meanwhile Saudia faces a civil war and goes to war \nwith Yemen\/Sudan over it,  The new North African \nAlliance (Algeria\/Tun\/Libya) goes to war with Morocco who attacks it.\nU.S\/France involved everywhere but cannot concentrate on one place, \nespecially that Syria\/Jordan\/Iraq have to be kept under control.\n\nAfter the cloud clears, I do not know what the end result will be,\n\nO.K back to reality:\n\n \tCAIRO, Egypt (UPI) -- The Cairo-based Arab Organization for Human\n Rights (AOHR) Sunday called on King Fahd of Saudi Arabia to order the\n release of members of the kingdom's first human rights group.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I've noticed a recent proliferation of 1 gig SCSI-2 3.5\" drives, in\nparticular, the Fujitsu 2694 and the Micropolis 2112. There is also the\nMaxtor LXT1240s (6100 rpm, 1.2 gig) drive. They are all quite cheap,\nand have nice 3-5 year warranties. \n\nMy questions are: Is there a catch?\n                  Which one is better?\n                  What type of SCSI-2 do these drives use?\n                  Is the service generally better for one of these     \n         \n                  manufacturers?\n                  Are prices likely to go down soon for any reason?\n\nthanks,","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Reports in Ottawa today say that the Senators have come to a verbal\nagreement with last seasons first pick and 2nd overall choice Alexei\nYashin on a 5 year deal. As well the Senators have signed their second\nround pick Chad Penney who is currently playing for the Sault Ste. Marie\nGreyhounds in the Ontario Junior league playoffs.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"My 24-bit color 600 dpi fladbed scanner can do the job for you. GIF, TIFF,\nPCX, BMP. Interested? Please write to me: imagesyz@aol.com\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nHmm.  The police strategy of bursting in with weapons drawn, clearly marked as\nofficers and yelling \"Police\" repeatedly.  This is used every day to bust drug\nhouses.  The idea is to awe the suspects into submission with surprise and\ndisplay of firepowere in order to avoid a gun fight.  As for not knocking, it's\na sad necessity in many cases since the suspects will attempt to escape or even\nfight.  Usually this strategy works; if it didn't, then it wouldn't be used so\ncommonly, now would it?\n\nWhether or not it was appropriate to use this strategy on the BD is not my\npoint, since I don't think any of us have enough information to make a clear\njudgement on this issue.\n\nI merely point out that it IS a valid strategy which is used every day.\nFurthermore, we don't know of any substitute strategy capable of apprehending\npotentially dangerous and armed suspects.  Do you suggest that the police\nalways knock with guns holstered and never arrest any suspects until they have\nbeen allowed to inspect the officers's badges?  Just what should the police do\nwhen apprehending potentially dangerous and armed suspects?  How far can they\nreasonably go to identiy themselves?  What do you suggest they can do which\ncan't be faked by the \"competition\"?\n\nEven if you've got deadly enemies who may pretend to be cops, that's not an\nexcuse to murder police.  In the case of the BD's, there was almost definitely\nat most the paranoid delusion of deadly enimies who would pretend to be cops.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"hello,\n\ni want to know if a spoilt com port will create problems with\nmouse ??\n\nmy mouse just gets stuck on the screen for a while and i have\nto press its button to be able to move it around again.....\n\nis there a shareware utility program to diagnose my com ports?","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Isn't this the point of \"a better windows than Windoze\". :). \n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"  {deletions}\nYes, this is a valid concern IMHO.  With the directly attached fan units I've\nseen, it looks like if the fan were to stop the chip cooling would be \na good bit worse than no heat sink at all.  In other words, if the fan stops\nthe unit turns into an insulator and the chip might get hot enough to\nsuffer permanent damage, not just stop working temporarily.\n\nMy Zeos 486DX2\/66 (tower case) has a passive heat sink on the cpu, and it's\nlocated so the front fan, which sucks air into the case, blows right on the\nheat sink.  If that fan stops the heat sink is still cooled by convection air\nflow so should not see too dramatic a temperature rise.  Essentially the \narrangement you're talking about and a good idea IMHO.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":" >tell RSA or any other non-DOD entity anything that its eavesdropping\n >reveals.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"A couple of months ago I tried out a Hercules Graphite card.  A pretty nice\nboard.  Fairly fast, and seemed quite compatible -- even seemed to handle the\nSVGA modes I have whined about here on occasion.  At the time I was just\nbuying a VLB system, so after checking out the card I sent it back.  I wanted\na VLB card, and purchased a Fahrenheit VLB card.  This card is fairly fast,\nwill do 70 Hz refresh at 1024x768, but is not compatible with my CD-ROMS\n(the SVGA thing -- I think; I have merely conjectured that is the cause of\nan old graphics board being able to run in a higher resolution with those\nprograms than the modern boards I have tried.  I have not gotten a straight\nanswer out of anybody...).  The monitor I am using it with is a 17\" Magnavox,\nwhich also tops out at 1024x768x70 Hz so its really a pretty good match.\n\nBut...\n\nThat is for my wife.  I just purchased a Viewsonic 17 for myself, and am\nlooking for a graphics card to drive it.  I want > 70Hz refresh,\nand would really like it to handle my CD-Roms.  I tried the Orchid P9000,\nwhich did neither of those things (though Robert at Wietek did say that the\nto Hercules.  They were supposed to be coming out with a VLB version of the\nGraphite around the end of March.  I have heard precisely ZERO about it since\nthen.  Does anyone know if the card was actually released, and what capabilities\n(and price) it has?\n\nAny info would be most appreciated.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Yeah, it seems toyota has always had a problem with those 2.2's\nand sound. I know the celicas with em were pretty noisey, and\nthe MR2s were no exception. Now, about large displacement 4s\nwith bad noise.. I have a 90 Grand Am H.O. quad 4, and it\nsounds really good, almost like a larger 6.. Now, Toyota\nis coming out with an all-new Celica next year and the Mr2...\nwell who knows..","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nThe April 13 issue of PC Magazine published benchmarks for the ATI UltraPro\nrunning on both VLB and EISA:\n\n\t800x600,16\t800x600,256\t1024x768,16\t1024x768,256","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nTurbo boost is necessary if a turboed car.\nFuel reserve warning.\nCoolant level warning.\n\nIt would also be nice to have a gauge that would cycle across the different\nsensors in the FI system such as O2 sensor, altitude, Air Flow...\n\nI'd love to get Tranny and diff.\nBrake temp would be great...\n\nAnd a BIG ASS tach.  :)\n\nSean","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
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{"text":"I have access to a DEC TLZ06 DEC DAT tape backup.  What do I need to interface\nmy SE\/30 to the tape backup.  The tape backup is a SCSI.  Will Norton Utilities\nbe sufficient to interface the two?\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I have an opportunity to buy a Radius VideoVision\nboard for about 1\/3 of normal street price, which\nI believe is due to a change in the board architecture.\n\nI VAGUELY, MAYBE remember that there was\nsome kind of serious problem with this board, which\ndoes Composite, PAL, SECAM to S video, Composite,\netc coversions. Plus also generating quicktime movies, \netc. MacWeek was generally complimentary about it\nin the April 12th issue.\n\nDoes anyone have any information on this board, such as is it the \none which has been superceeded, what about an \nupgrade if so, etc. I'd be very curious to hear from you.\n\nTHANKS!\n\n--B.W.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Net citizens!\nThis is a desperate try to save our last course in university.\nWe are writing a study about the Net, how it all started, about the people\nliving in it, however trying to explain the basics of how it all works.\nThat includes you, reader of this message.\nWe would be more than grateful if we could get your answers to the following \nquestions;\n\n1. For how many years have you known that Internet existed?\n2. How often do you use the Net? (occasions per month)\n3. Whatfor? (hobby, in your profession, socialy...)\n4. How do you access the Net? (university, profession, friends, private...)\n5. Has the Net taken over roles that other media played before? (telephone, \n   newspapers, TV, girlfriend...)\n6. What newsgroups\/type of information do you take part of?\n7. Male or Female?\n8. Age?\n\n   If you have the time; \n9. What's your future visions about the Net? Limits and\/or possibilities. \n10.How do you think\/hope law and censorship will change over time ahead?\n\nWe also want to apologize for taking up so much bandwidth with this.\nThis request has been spread to 60 newsgroups, chosen at random, but, \nyou know how it is, term end is closing up, panic spreads.\nEmail address:  fm91hn@hik.se  or  fm91pb@hik.se\n\nSincere Respect And May The Force Be With You All!","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"God ItSelf appeared to me and spoke to me, saying \"Rawlins has been listening to\na deamon, and has been taken in by its satanic words!\"","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nAs I said, I do not want to convice anyone, so, why should my opinions\nconvince anyone?\nI do not believe that my opinions are refuted by facts.\n\n\n\nMaybe youy view of a dictionary is the problem here. One thing is the\naccepted meaning of a word by a dictionary, and sometimes a completely\ndifferent thing is what that word came to mean after a long time.\n\n\n\nOK. Tell me how many people in Zionist movements define a Jew in a \ndifferent way, and how many are who define Jew based on a religious way.\n\n\nYou need to start reading before answering. \nMy point was that because some movement claims to be nationalistic, it \ndoes not mean that I consider it to be nationalistic. I did not comapre\nIsrael to the IRA. I think that you are starting to put words on my \nmouth and that is wrong.\n\n\n\nI never said that Zionism is monolithic. If you are going to attribute\nme things, present the quotes where I said that.\n\n\nThat is your problem. I could certainly interpret this like you are \nrunning out of arguments. First, you put words in my mouth, now, you\nsay you do ot believe me.\n\n\n\nWhy don't you try reading for a change? Did I say that the Law of Return\ndemand a person to be religious? Now, how does the Law of Return define \nwho is a Jew and who is not? I said that it uses a religious standard:\nIf your mother is a Jew, you are a Jew, if your mother is not Jewish,\nneither you are.\nDo not twist my words, please.\n\n\n\nI am not talking about the debate. I am talking about how things are right\nnow. When the debate is over, I'll see what happens.\nRight now, things are like they are.\nLet me ask you one thing. I understand that Israel differenciates between\nCitizenship and Nationality. Suppose M(ale) and F(emale) have a child in\nIsrael. Which nationality will the child's ID show, according to each one\nof the following cases:\n\na) F and M are both Jewish.\nb) F is Jewsh and M is not.\nc) F is Muslim and M is jewish.\nd) F is Christian and M is Jewish.\ne) F and M are both non-Jewish.\n\n\n\n\nIt called history. At some point it was OK. Now, I believe, it is not. \n\n\n                                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n ^^^^^^^^\n\nInteresting. How do you know? Had I ever talked to you about this and \nforgotten about that?\n\n\n\nWhich definition are you now talking here about? \nI do not know why you are so touchy. I never said that you did not support\nPalestinian self-determination. I just gave an example of hypocrisy. I never\nsaid that someone in this net is guilty of it. It was just an example. Nothing\nmore, nothing less than that. Why did you have to clarify what you think?\n\n\nHere you have several problems.\nFirst, you should know that words have more meanings than those given in\nthe dictionary.\nSecond, it may come to be a shock for you to know that there are more\nwords than those in the dictionary.\nThird, we can exchange ideas if you want, but you come out with this nonsense\nabout being believable = using the definitions given in a dictionary.\nIt seems that you cannot answer to the ideas given by others without insulting\nothers. Sad.\n\n\nIf you did not put words in my mouth, it might be that you might\nstart reading what I had actually said. So far, you come over and over\ntwisting what I said or presenting things I never said as if I had said\nthem. In this way, you are answering to yourself. That is why you do not\nfind it believable. Maybe, if you start reading what I had actually said,\nand not what you added, you might change your mind.\n\n\nFirst, there is nothing resembling a fact in what you added to what I said,\nas if I had said it. \nSeconf, anyone else is supposed to mean \"than I do\"?\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"In the Monday, May 10 morning edition of the San Jose Mercury News an\narticle by Sandra Gonzales at the top of page 12A explained convicted\nkiller David Edwin Mason's troubled childhood saying,\n\n\t\"Raised in Oakland and San Lorenzo by strict fundamentalist\n\tChristian parents, Mason was beaten as a child.  He once was\n\ttied to a workbench and gagged with a cloth after he accidently\n\turinated on his mother when she walked under his bedroom window,\n\tcourt records show.\"\n\nWere the San Jose Mercury news to come out with an article starting with\n\"Raised in Oakland by Mexican parents, Mason was beaten...\", my face would\nbe red with anger over the injustice done to my Mexican family members and\nthe Mexican community as a whole.  I'm sure Sandra Gonzales would be equally\nupset.\n\nWhy is it that open biggotry like this is practiced and encouraged by the\nSan Jose Mercury News when it is pointed at the christian community?\n\nCan a good christian continue to purchase newspapers and buy advertising in\nthis kind of a newspaper?  This is really bad journalism.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"# #Actually, I bet you more gay\/bi men are as not as promiscuous as gay men, \n# #because more of them could have the \"option\" of living a straight life, and \n# #with social pressures, probably would at least try.\n# \n#    Geez, where have you been, Ryan?  I proposed this theory *months*\n# ago.  Let's take it one step further, even.  If, as the surveys show,\n# up to 33% of all men have *had* a homosexual encounter, then there must\n\nCite a survey, other than the obviously bogus Kinsey studies.\n\n# be an even *larger* percentage of people who have had homosexual erotic\n# fantasies.  But if less than 10% of the population is gay, what can we\n# say about these people who don't identify as gay but have demonstrated\n# gay potential.  Obviously, a large chunk of these people *chose* (or,\n# more accurately, were forced to choose by force of religion and social\n# sanction) to put those feelings aside, to be heterosexual.\n# \n#    Obviously, Cramer and Kaldis fall into this category.\n\nI can't speak for Kaldis; but \"force of religion and social sanction\"\nplayed no part in my sexual preferences.  Neither had much influence on\nme as a teenager.\n\n# elf@halcyon.com  (Elf Sternberg)","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Hi all,\n\nI wrote a small application which uses pixmaps copied into a window\nto show some drawings. This works perfectly for all kind of objects\nexpect large fonts. What happens on the screen is that the right\nhalf of the font is not shown. The way I create these things is\nquite simple; some aggregated code:\n\nXFillRectangle(Disp, Pixs, AnyColor, 0, 0, Width, Height);\nXDraw[Line|Rect|String](...);\nXCopyArea(Disp, Pixs, Win, 0, 0, Width, Height, 0, 0);\n\nI am using a RS6K 340 with BOS 3.2.\n\nThe question is:\n  is this a bug in the AIX X-server (may be some PTFs), or did I do\n  something wrong within my code??\n\nSorry for the cross-posting, but I really do not know what kind of\nerror it is.\n\n\nJuergen Schietke\nResearch Insitute for Discrete Mathematics\nUniversity of Bonn\nNassestr. 2\n5300 Bonn 1 (Germany)","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nFirst, please watch your line lengths. Not everyone has autowrap. \nSecond, Franklin to the rescue! Here's the list:\nPlayer        HR  SB\nAaron        755 240\nMays         660 338\nFRobinson    586 204\nRJackson     563 228\nWinfield     406 216 *\nDawson       377 304 *\nBaylor       338 285\nBoBonds      332 461\nWynn         291 225\nStrawberry   280 201 *\nMorgan       268 689\nPinson       256 309\nYount        235 247 *\nKGibson      208 253 *\nSandberg     205 297 *\n\nPlayers marked with an * are still active; numbers through 1991. That's only\n15; the 16th is probably Rickey Henderson, who was listed at 184 HR, 994\nSB or George Brett, listed as 186 SB, 291 HR.\n\nThe surprises? Probably Reggie, Bayor, and Wynn for steals. Maybe Morgan (to\na lot of people) for homers. I was kind of surprised to realize that\nSandberg has that many steals, though I wasn't surprised that the number was\n\n Mike Jones | AIX High-End Development | mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nJust MHO, but I prefer hardcopy books because you can have three or four  \nof them open spread across the bed (next to the desk in my dorm) and  \nreference them while using the program full-screen.  The Windows Help  \nthings come closest to good on-line documentation I've seen, but they  \ngenerally aren't detailed enough and would probably take a LARGE amount of  \nspace (even compressed) which is at a premium on my system . . ..  In  \nfact, the manuals are the primary reason I bought Borland's C++ compiler  \ninstead of using the one the lab licensed (in the lab, of course).  I've  \ngot a SHELF full of books to help me out when I'm stuck.  :-)   To each  \nhis own . . . :-)\n\n\nWe've destroyed about six sets of original Microsoft Word for Mac 5.0 and  \nWord for Windows (may have been a bad batch of disks).  Don't have the  \nfaintest idea what happened to them, they just went bad.  Weren't stored  \nnear any magnetic fields or otherwise mistreated, indeed they were only  \nused once.  Given this, and the massive headaches finding a working set of  \ndisks to fix some of the machines that periodically go down, I'd say  \nhaving working backups is a godsend.  I sure wish we'd had them (Sometimes  \nI think Murphy's Law holds true more often than Newton's!!) when we needed  \nthem.  I think it's sortof like snake antivenin.  99.995% of the time you  \nhave absolutely no use for it, but when you need it, BOY do you ever need  \nit!\n\nI don't have backups of my originals at \"home\" but then my machine doesn't  \nsee anywhere NEAR the use\/abuse of these here at the lab, and so I  \nconsider it less of a risk.  Still, I usually make \"working copies\" of  \nthem when I install them and then eventually re-use these \"working copies\"  \nfor something else. . ..\n\n\n\nJust mine, too!  :-)\n\nBTW, before anyone notices my mentioning \"copying\" programs from machine  \nto machine when we do installs here and wonders about the licensing, the  \nupper-management (non-student staff, of course) are METICULOUS in checking  \nwith providers of the software and making SURE we are sticking to the  \nlicense agreements . . ..","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nAs far as I know, there is no way to get around the BIOS password except by \nshorting out the power supply to the CMOS memory, thereby erasing it. This \nwill remove the password, but it will also destroy all the previous BIOS \nsettings, so then you'll have to go and set them all up again. On my 386, \nthere is a jumper on the motherboard which is provided for the purpose of \nshorting the battery. You just short this jumper briefly, and it interrupts \npower to the CMOS long enough to erase it. I would imagine there is \nsomething like this on your board too. \n\nIn the future, I would suggest that YOU set the password, and leave it on \n\"Setup\" only. That way, no-one else can go and reset it or set it to \"\nAlways\" unless they know what password you used. They had to do this over \nhere too when they got a bunch of new 386's, for just the same reason.\n\n-Dale","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
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{"text":"Actually if Mr X had something to gain by his claims his\naccount of the events would nmot be the most respected. Case\nand point, the resurrection. By claiming that the resurrection\nactually happened the early preachers were able to convert many\nto Christianity. However, if you read Mathew 27:38 (?) and the\ncase for the resurrected saints who walked around Jerusalem and\nappeared to \"many People\" you would realize that other\nhistorians (Josephus for one) would have reported on it all if\nit happened. The fact that the Bible speaks of events of such\ngreat magnitude that they would have been noticed taken with\nthe fact that they are not reported on by historians could only\nmean that the bible contains many made up stories.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nIsn't it ironic.  I'm of that generation, and I remember the lesson.  I\ncry to see all the postings from domestic .edu sites that have naively\nswallowed everything the government has seen fit to feed to them.\nEspecially contrasted to such a post from the .uk yet.\n\n\nI suspect we saw the latter.  However, the injustice implied in letting\nthose involved escape without investigation and\/or prosecution is also\nhorrible to contemplate.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nWhy are you all playing these pathetic number games?  The number of people\nshowing up at the MOW hardly constitutes the entire queer populace.  I doubt\nthat it constitutes more than a handful of us.  I'm queer, and I won't be\nthere, simply because I don't have the time or the transportation.  What the\nhell makes you think the participants in the MOW embody more than a minimum\nnumber?\n\nFace it, people, we're everywhere.  There are always more of us than you\nthink.  Our numbers are constantly GROWING, not diminishing...some of your\nchildren will grow up to join us.  Hell, some of MY children may grow up to\njoin us.  The best way to deal with this phenomenon is not to fear it and\nblind yourself to it, but to realize that you have nothing to fear.  We're\nnot perverts, we're not dangerous, we're just here, and we're human just\nlike you--er, most of you.\n\nIdiots like Cramer and Kaldis can rant all they like.  It won't do them one\niota of good.\n\nDrewcifer\n\nP.S.  I still can't get over the fact that some people actually believe that\nevery queer in the U.S. would show up at the MOW, and that these numbers are\nmeaningful.  And, come to think of it, what about those of us in OTHER\ncountries?  Tree.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nYeah, but who wants to start a pool on the first person arrested\nmistakenly and has their life turned upside-down because some law\nenforcement agency *does* make a chip::person association?\n\nI wonder if there are any plans to keep these records (e.g. encode the\nserial number into the UPC scanned at K-Mart along with the credit\ncard info, voila.)\n\nAt least your phone number tends to only locate to your house or\nwhatever (i.e. to be coming from your telephone number the person\nlikely is in your house etc.), plus or minus some shenanigans of\ncourse.\n\nBut I'd hate to think of these guys getting the clipper id, recording\nthe conversation, then doing a quick cross-lookup and your name comes\nup as owner of that id (mistakenly, maybe you sold the phone at a\ngarage sale or the phone was stolen from your car or whatever.) They\nmight only know who one side of the conversation is, for example.\n\nAnyone who thinks the govt is forbidden by law to cross-correlate such\ndatabases loses two points. First, law enforcement agencies can of\ncourse do this. Second, they're only forbidden from BUDGETING any\nmoney for it. The IRS, for example, does do this anyhow. They just\ndon't spend any money on it so it's (technically) legal I guess.\n\nInstead they probably trade little favors with companies like\nmastercard (if you're the IRS I'll bet you have a *lot* of\nopportunities to trade favors with major corps for their databases.)\n\nI know, an IRS guy read an amazing list off to me (from his screen, I\ncould hear him typing to pull up each screen) once on the phone during\na dispute I had with them (to intimidate me, actually, not much of a\ndispute, I didn't particularly disagree, but for some reason this\nfellow wanted to play tough guy with me, I hope he's better now.)\n\nAmazing stuff he had at his finger tips. Be afraid.\n\n-- \n        -Barry Shein","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
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{"text":"[ref to Rev 12:7-12 deleted]\n\nAlso read Ezek 28:13-19.  This is a desctiption of Lucifer (later Satan)\nand how beautiful He was, etc, etc\n\nGrant","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Here is your chance to have a full UNIX System at a small cost:\n\n\tI have a full set of Unix system for the AT&T 6300+ for sale.\n\tIt is version 2.5 (The latest as far as I know) and \n\tincludes all the software (1.2Meg 5.25\" floppies) and \n\tManuals for:\n\t\t- Base OS\n\t\t- Development tools (C compilers etc...)\n\t\t- Dos Merge (Simultask)\n\t\t- etc.\n\n\t(I beleive the software requires a 6300+ and will not work on\n\tany other machine)\n\n\tI also have a few AT&T 6300 and + manuals including the System \n\tProgrammers Guide if anyone is interested.\n\n\tDrop me a line with your offer if you are interested.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of the FREE State,\nthe right of the people to KEEP and BEAR arms, shall not be infringed.\n\nI know that as a Canadian, I don't have much to stand on...\n\nBut, I think that the right to KEEP and BEAR arms is very important to\nmaintaining a FREE society. The America is still the most enviable\nplace to live on this Earth (by anyone with their head on straight)\nand will stay that way only if more people stand-up PUBLICLY for what\nthey believe!!\n\nRemember, that if you stand for nothing... You'll fall for anything...\nincluding \"well-meaning\" socialists, they did in Canada.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Here's one from the mill.  The Oilers MIGHT move to Hamilton\nwhere Porklington can get a free deal.\n\nGiven what Labour relations and Puck has been like, it WOULD be a sigh of relief.\n\nThis WAY w4e can can BOTH elements!!","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThat is the standard advice in dermatology texts.\nThe soak part greatly increases the inconvenience.  Don't bother unless\nit doesn't work otherwise.\n\n\nExactly, but it adds to the \"ritual\" aspect, which is important for\nus suggestible patients.  (Posters, don't bother to repeat the \nrationale for the soak.)\n\n\nGreasy no matter what. Vaseline (generically, petrolatum) is \nfamous for that.  One text states that the more greasy a dry-skin\ncream is, the more effective.  \n\n\nTry USP lanolin, at least for maintenance (preventive) therapy.  USP\nlanolin is natural and much less greasy AND cheap (don't buy the more\nexpensive perfumed lanolin mixture).  As I've commented before, petrolatum\nis a poorly characterized mixture of hydrocarbons which are not found in\nbiological systems (that is not inherently bad, but smell it up close,\neven on your hand), are partially absorbed into the body and remain there\nfor months or more, and have associations with cancer.  Don't panic, but\nalso don't believe it's God's gift to the human skin.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nWrong.\n\n\nQuite true. And evolution made \"decided\" that homosexuality had a place,\notherwise it would have disappeared quite quickly. There are very few\nanimals which do not exhibit homosexual behavior.\nIt has been here before humans existed, and will be here after the\nhuman race has gone.\n\n\nQuite true. 2000 years of religious idiocy have not changed the nature\nof man. You tried to rid yourselves of us for 2000 years and failed.\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I had a question abo","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"So this year you had a game on SCNY, a game on SCA, a game on ESPN,\nand if the Rangers hadn't crashed and burned, you would have had a\ngame on MSG.  What are you complaining about?\n\nI seem to recall last year everyone complaining about SC coverage.  I\neven remember Orioles' games being shown in the DC area instead of\nhockey.  And what about when SC failed to show the conclusion of other\ngames because its feature game was over?  Sound familiar?\n\nThis year I'm getting twice the coverage.  I can see all the Caps\ngames *plus* the games ESPN shows.  I think it's great that hockey is\nback on ESPN.  IMHO, they're doing a great job especially considering\nthe baseball contract they have to work around.\n\n--","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nThere is an office on the middle left US coast on Middlefield Road in\nMenlo Park, CA (415) 329-4390\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nI agree with your points, and I'm glad to hear that you subscribe\nto the notion of secular humanism, humans helping humans instead\nof hoping for a possible deux ex machina solution!\n\nAs for faith, you could always use such constructs to dampen\nyour anger or sorrow.\n\nCheers,\nKent","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I have a very funny yet confusing problem.  I am using Telemate within\nWin 3.1.  Everytime I close dos box, my Telemate operation get affected\n(Normally I am doing file transfer).  However, if I open + close windows\nprogram everything seems running smoothly.  My file transfer operation\nget affected only if I close dos box.\n\nCan somebody please gimme some pointers on what is going on and how to\nfix it??","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Idea for repair of satellites:\n\nWarning I am getting creative again:\n\nWhy not build a inflatable space dock.\n\nBasically deploy one side of the space dock (using a scissor shaped structure,\nsaw it on beyond 2000), then maneuer the side to next to the satellite and then\nmove the rest of the dock around the satellite and seal it..\nThe inflate the dock with a gas (is does not have to be oxygen, just neeeds to\nbe non-flameble, non-damaging to the satellite and abel to maintain heat),\nthenheat the space dock (for the astronaut who will be working onthe satellite\nto be able to not have to wear the normal bulky space suit, but a much striped\ndown own).. \n\nI know this might take a slot of work or not??? Or just to plain wierd, but\nideas need to be thought of, for where is tomorrow, but in the imagination of\nthe present..","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\tNone of you guys noticed my \"Gross Mistake\" 'cause you\ndon't have a clue. I noticed the misspeaking myself and\ncorrected it. I doubt you would have ever noticed.\n\n\tActually I've read books and taken courses on the\nsubject. Ah yes and like you lived in the greater Deutschland. \n \n\nYou guys are funny. It's funny to see people lose control and\nstart the name calling when they realize they have no point.\n\n\nCould have fooled me.\n\n\tI understand how individual liberties (freedom of\nspeach, religion etc.) could be a thing you \"never heard\nabout\". Actually, Civil Libertarians believe in the fundamental\nfreedoms that belong to human beings. They would support the\nJews against the Nazis or anyone else who tries to oppress them\nand they would support the Arabs against the Israelis and any\nother such oppressive regimes (Iraq etc.) \n\n\n\nWell actually now that you mentioned here are a few things I\nappreciate:\n\n1. Politeness\n2. Stimulating conversation\n3. A red rose\n4. New York in june and a good Gerschwinn tune\n5. A chocalate Sundae\n6. Really angry out of controll funny people","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nIs the U used in the law enforcement field from the phone which placed the\ncall, from the unit whose 'start secure session' button was pressed first,\nor does each phone transmit its own law enforcement field?  Even assuming\none of the first two choices, the FBI is going to get a fresh N,U for its\nown database about every other phone call, eventually accumulating keys for\nall the phones used to connect to the line they are monitoring, not just\nthe 'suspects' key.  (Assuming the ever-thrifty FBI doesn't forget each key\nafter its wiretap permission has expired.)  Not quite a pyramid, but not\nbad, either.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"]it would be a shame to split boxer riders between different lists\n]unless, of course, the existing list failed to meet the readers'\n]needs.\n\nnowhere did I see you mention K bikes, which, being made by BMW, are \nwelcome on my list. in fact, you go out of your way to say:\n\n           \"most all boxer talk is welcome\"\n\nyour list appears to cater to boxers. that's great. my list caters to\nBMW's, *without any restrictions* like you have. considering that the\nsubscription count went to 29 within 18 hours of my initial post about\nthe list (which was made around 10:00pm just before I went to bed), I'd \nsay that there is a need for a *BMW* list as opposed to just a GS boxer \nlist.\n\nmy motivation for setting up the BMW list came from an earlier post of \nyours announcing your boxer list. it didn't fit my needs.\n\nok, we've pissed on each other's list. let's get back to the regular\nnet.noise and read our respective lists.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"1991 Toyota Camry for sale:\n    Deluxe package\n    5 speed\n    grey\n    power windows\n    power door locks\n    AM\/FM cassette\n    power steering\n    power brakes\n    70K highway miles\n    Excellent condition\n\n    $9500                             Rob Fusi\n                                      rwf2@lehigh.edu\n    (609) 397-2147 after 7pm          E-mail me for more info...\n    (914) 335-6984 day (until 5)\n    Ask for Bob Fusi\n\n                                    ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I would like to hook up some cameras that were recently donated to our\nlocal community cable TV station which have sync inputs in the form\nof horizontal and vertical drive. Our station sync is a black burst\nwhich works fine with other boxes with \"genlock\" style inputs. Can\nanyone point me at a design, article, or whatever showing how to produce\nthe horizontal & vertical drive signals? Thanks in advance.\nJack Powers\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n[re McElwaine]\n\n\nI just heard this week that he has started on COMPUSERVE flying models\nforum now.  Sigh.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I just received some new information regarding the issue of \nBCCI and whether it is an Islamic bank etc.\n\nI am now about to post it under the heading\n\n\"BCCI\".\n\nLook for it there!","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\nA \"moment of silence\" doesn't mean much unless *everyone*\nparticipates.  Otherwise it's not silent, now is it?\n\nNon-religious reasons for having a \"moment of silence\" for a dead\nclassmate: (1) to comfort the friends by showing respect to the\ndeceased , (2) to give the classmates a moment to grieve together, (3)\nto give the friends a moment to remember their classmate *in the\ncontext of the school*, (4) to deal with the fact that the classmate\nis gone so that it's not disruptive later.\n\nBlindly opposing everything with a flavor of religion in it is\nutterly idiotic.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"nnget 93122.1300541\n\nAnd where do you advise people to turn for cancer information?\n\n\n Most\n\nIt seems to me you've offered a circular refutation of Moss's organization. Who\nhas shown the information in the latest book of PAC to be questionable? Could\nit be those 'regulatory' agencies and medical industries which Moss is showing\nto be operating with *major* vested interests. Whether one believes that these\nvested interests are real or not, or whether or not they actually shape medical\nresearch is a seperate argument. If one sees a possibility, however, that these\ninterests exist, then the 'fact' that some of the information put out by PAC\nhas been refuted by the medical industry doesn't hold much weight.\n\nAs for the ineffectiveness of antineoplasteons, the fact that the NIH didn't\nfind them effective doesn't make much sense here. Of course they didn't! I\ntend to have more faith in the word of the patients who are now alive after\nbeing told years ago that they would be dead of cancer soon. They are fighting\nlike hell to keep that clinic open, and they credit his treatment with their\nsurvival. Anyone who looks at the NIH's record for investigation of 'alterna-\ntive' cancer therapies will easily see that they have a strange knack for find-\ning relatively cheap and nontoxic therapies dangerous or useless.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\tGenerally the ship sinks (sorry, there's a picture of the\nUSS Iowa next to my desk).\n\n\n\tFirst, unless that round is chambered there is little threat of\npenetration by the bullet, or the brass for that matter.  Unless that\nexpanding gas is held in an enclosed space you get a nice \"pop\" and not\nenough threat for even firefighters to worry about.  Finally, it's\nrather simple to tell if a person was shot prior to being burned to\na crisp.  See, by the time the ammunition went up those people were\nquite dead.  Look for blood around the wound, particularly bruising.\n\n\tHowever, it's my contention that it makes little difference\nwhether they died from exploding ammunition or fire; the Feds seem\nto have shared responsibility for both.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Has anybody heard an explanation of why the FBI was using tear gas\nin a 35 mph wind?\n\nDoesn't seem like vry good tactics to me ...\n\nAny other explanations?\n\nLew","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"LOCATION:       Corona del Mar, CA  (Orange County)\n\nFOR SALE:       contemporary custom couch\n                7' long ( 3 cushions)\n                solid Black\n                raw silk-like material\n                rolled armrests\n                clean design\n                excellent condition (left behind @ parents when moved\n                                     out of state)\n                $450. or best offer\n\nFOR SALE:       Wurlitzer Console Piano w\/bench\n                Cherry wood\n                great condition\n                $600. or best offer","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nI agree with Nick.  What's the big deal about long games?  If you want\nto watch baseball, there's that much more baseball to watch.  And yes,\nbaseball includes the space between plays as well as the plays themselves.\n\nI suspect that a lot of the complaining about long games, especially when\nit's coming from TV people, has to something to do with advertising.\nProbably time \"wasted\" in the middle of an inning, say by a batter\nstepping out of the box to fiddle with his gloves, or by a pitcher\nwalking around behind the mound trying to collect his thoughts, could\notherwise be sold as advertising time.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Why can't an aircraft be designed so that the pilot can always be \nmaintained in a upright position, perpendicular to the plane of\nacceleration?  With the visual helmets now being used that display\nsome of the flight parameters and with a keyboard and manuvering\nequipment moving with the pilot, a pilot may be able to function at\naccelerations in excess of 12G.  Is anyone currently pursuing this\narea or is there a reason why this is impossible at the present time?\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"exit\n\n\n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nThe original poster, John Navitsky, said that he might use the monitor on\na SparcStation LX. The LX is able to generate a picture at 1280*1024 at\n76 Hz. Not officially, but I tried to set this resolution and refresh rate\nand the LX came up with a non-syncing screen. Our tube obviously couldn't\nhandle this speed. At 67 Hz, it worked perfectly.\n\nWhen buying a third party monitor that's going to be used on a SparcStation\nLX, you might consider a monitor that's fast enough to do 1280*1024 at 76Hz.\nI don't know for sure whether the LX supports this (Sun certainly won't tell\nyou) so you'll have to check.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nWhile I don't have an answer for you, I reckon Blaise Pascal is generally\ncredited with inventing the syringe per se.  I don't know much about the\nneedles; however, I do know of a southwest Virginia country doctor who\nsome thrity or more years ago invented, patented, used, and sold a syringe\/\nhypodermic needle combination that retracted, injected with the flip of a\ntrigger, then retracted, giving a near-painless injection.  The fellow was\nDr. Daniel Gabriel, and it was termed the Gabriel--somebody else syringe. \nDid you come across that one.  (Plastic, disposable syringes came onto the\nmarket about that time and his product went by the wayside, to my knowledge.)\n\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nThis is a point that seems to have been overlooked by many. The ending of a \n1600 year old schism seems to be in sight.\n\nThe theologians said that the differences between them were fundamentally \nones or terminology, and that the Christological faith of both groups was \nthe same.\n\nSome parishes have concelebrated the Eucharist, and here in Southern Africa \nwe are running a joint theological training course for Coptic and Byzantine \nOrthodox. \n\nThere are still several things to be sorted out, however. As far as the \nCopts are concerned, there were three ecumenical councils, whily the \nByzantine Orthodox acknowledge seven.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"-->\n-->What, a dog weighs 150lb maybe, at max? You can't handle it?\n-->\n-->You have, I presume, thumbs? Grapple with it and tear it's head\n-->off!\n-->\n-->Sheesh, even a trained attack dog is no match for a human,\n-->we have *all* the advantages.\n-->\n--\n--This was a recent discussion on rec.martial-arts.  Humans definitely don't\n--have all the advantages. Dogs are deceptively strong and often bred for\n--fighting of one sort or another.\n\n--Ed\n--DoD #1110\n\nBeing related to former trainers, I have come to know that humans do have all the\nadvantages (well, at least one anyway). It is a little known fact that a dog will\ninvoluntarily regurgitate and release an object that is too large to swallow. I\nwas told that if I were ever attacked by a dog I should ball my hand in a fist and\nforce it down the dog's throat. The dog would naturally gag and release, and become\nmomentarily disoriented. This commonly happens to humans when we go to a doctor and\nhave our throats examined ( Proof Positive ). In the time during the dog's\ndisorientation, the next move would be to wrap an arm about the dog throat in a \nchoke hold manner and constrict with all your might until the dog lapses into\nunconsciousness ( from lack of oxygen and halting blood flow ). Finally, run like\nthe wind to get away from the local area should the dog get up again and be really\npissed.\n\nOOOOOOOpsssss. For a second there I thought I was in rec.beatthelivingcrapoutofadog\nand not rec.motorcycles.\n\nTill next time.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"1) I think that most of us can afford a stamp and an envelope, and the\ncost of printing out a letter.\n\n2) If some kind soul out there would write a letter, and upload it to \nthe net, everyone could capture it, print it out, and snail-mail it\nout to their local congressional critter.\n\nBTW>> I'm working on one.\n\n-nate","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nWell, that post was not that accurate.  People with early life hernias\nare felt to have a congenital sack that promotes the formation of hernias.\nThe hernias of later life may be more associated with chronic straining.  \nHowever, the risk of damage to the intestine without an operation is \nhigh enough that it ought to be repaired.  The risk of cancer is probably\nno higher than the general population, but since you are near 40, it would\nbe sensible to have some sort of cancer screening, such as a flexible\nsigmoidoscopy.  Sorry for the misleading info.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"----------------------------Original message----------------------------\n                                                                    D\"SB\n\nBelow please find an electronic copy of a leaflet put up at Warsaw U.:\n\nDEGEL*HATORAH Jewish Circle for Arts and Sciences,\nUniversity of Warsaw, Warsaw, invites you to the lecture\n*PRESENT-DAY SOCIOPOLITICAL ISSUES OF THE MIDDLE EAST*\nwhich will be delivered by Dr Mohamed SOLIMAN,\nEgypt's Ambassador to Poland.\nTime & place: 4 p.m., Tuesday, 25th May, '93, (Erev Shavuot;\nDept. of Arabic & Islamic Studies, Oriental Institute\n(Polish: Orientalistyka), University of Warsaw,\n26\/28 Krakowskie Przedmies'cie Street, PL-00-927 WARSAW, Poland.\n\n:molahs ahetovit'n lohk'v       *       ma(on yehk'rad ahehkar'd\n                              *   *\n#############       *   *   *   *   *   *   *       ############\n#############         *   *           *   *         ############\n           #            *               *                     #\n#          #          *   *           *   *                   #\n#          #        *   *   *   *   *   *   *                 #\n                              *   *\n                                *\n\nDEGEL*HATORAH  Judaistyczne Kol\/o Nauk i Sztuk\nprzy Uniwersytecie Warszawskim w Warszawie\nzaprasza na wykl\/ad pt.\n*AKTUALNE ZAGADNIENIA SPOL\/ECZNO-POLITYCZNE BLISKIEGO WSCHODU*,\nkto'ry wygl\/osi Dr Mohamed SOLIMAN, Ambasador Egiptu w Polsce.\nCzas i miejsce: 16:00, wtorek, 25 maja, '93, (Erev Shavuot;\nZakl\/ad Arabistyki i Islamistyki, Instytut Orientalistyczny,\nUniwersytet Warszawski, 26\/28 Krakowskie Przedmies'cie,\nPL-00-927 WARSZAWA.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nIt was 93%-94%, and actually another msdos team member posted it.\nNote that people not on the msdos team would not necessarily know\nabout that, or...\n\n\nWhen I heard those numbers I wondered how they got them (having\nworked in product support and knowing that the typical support caller\nhas very little positive to say about the product, I figured it wasn't\nfrom there...) so I wandered over to the marketing folks and asked.\nAnd I was told it was from a survey of registered users.  And I \nposted that on the net when people asked where the 93% figure came \nfrom.\n\n\nHmm. I figured, if Chuck posted the numbers, why not include where\nthey came from? (I also find it interesting that postitive info is \n\"fear, uncertainty & doubt\".)\n\n\n????  I think you've got me confused with someone else. I don't \npretend that MSDOS provides what all people need, or that other\nOSes (including unix & OS\/2) don't provide useful and\/or necessary\nfeatures.  I also don't push people to use MSDOS; I even posted in\ncomp.os.msdos.misc that I suggest _waiting_ before installing a \nnew os, esp if you have trouble (support is always overloaded \nduring release, unless the sales are a total bomb).\n\n\nI ain't saying some of us don't get defensive sometimes. Do you *really*\nthink msdos gets any more respect within microsoft than outside it?\n\nI just mean we all aren't cut out of the same dough with the same cookie\ncutter. We don't all think alike.  Yeah, ChuckSt and I have some \"inside\"\ninfo on MSDOS - doesn't mean that everyone else does :)  \n\n\n-jen\n\n-- ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"a user on my bbs \"accidentally\" deleted his vga driver for his oak77 card and\nhas no backup.  i was wondering if someone knew of an ftp site (and path,\nplease!) where such a thing might be obtained.  thanks.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"MAG Innovision MX15F\nFantastic 15\" multiscan monitor that can display up to\n1280x1024 noninterlaced (!) with .26 mm dot pitch.\nIf you are looking for a large crystal clear super vga\nmonitor then this is for you.\n$430   call Scott at (503) 757-3483 or\nemail scotts@math.orst.edu\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nI have never said that only humans are the only beings which are\nsufficiently sentient to have intentions.   In fact, I have explicitly\nsaid that I am perfectly happy to consider that some animals *are*\ncapable of forming intentions.\n\nWhat I am objecting to is considering programmed or instinctive\nbehaviour to have moral significance, since, it seems to me, \nsuch behaviour does *not* involve intention.\n\n\nThat's not the point.   The point is whether the implementor thinks\n*at all*.    The issue is not whether thinking produces opinion A\nor opinion B, but whether thinking takes place, period.\n\n\nSince humans are part of nature, are not all human actions \"natural\".\n\nOr perhaps you're going to throw in a definition of \"natural\" that\nwill allow us to describe some actions as \"natural\" and some as \n\"not natural\".   If so, what is the definition?\n\n\n\nSure they do, as multiple posters have show you.   Sharks, for example,\neat wounded sharks.   I've personally seen cats eat their newborn.\n\nAre you in some kind of denial?   People give you example after example,\nand you go off the air for a week, and then pop up claiming that it \nnever happened.    It's very strange.\n\n\nSee what I mean.   Here we go again.   What do we have to do: write\nup a tailor-made FAQ just for Mr Schneider?","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\tI swore off taking passengers over ten years ago, but I recall\n Sturgis, 1981 getting some strange looks because my passenger\n was reading a book.  She was so engrossed that she didn't even\n notice when we hit a roadkill to make the hit-of-the-day\n with the riders behind us.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nSorry, Fred, but for the purposes under discussion here, I must\ndisagree.  Your point is true only in the sense that one cannot argue\nagainst communism by reference to the Chinese or Soviet empires, since\nthose did not represent *true* communism.  In judging the practical\nconsequences of Islam as a force to contend with in the world today,\nit is precisely the Khomeini's of the world, the Rushdie-fatwa\nsupporters, and perhaps more importantly, the reaction of the world\nMuslim community to those extremists, that we must look to.  Perhaps\nunfortunately from your perspective, most people are not concerned\nwith whether Islam is the right religion for them, or whether the\nQur'an could be used as a guidebook for a hypothetical utopia, but how\nIslam affects the world around them, or what their lives might be like\nif Islam gains in influence.  When I consider such possibilities, it\nis with not inconsiderable fear.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Well, if you have an IRWIN 250 MB, here is a great deal for you:\nGenuine IRWIN accuTRAK 120-250 tapes, $16\/ea\n3M DC2120 tapes. $16\/ea\n\nAll the avove tapes are new, never used, and factory preformatted.\nEmail if interested.\n\nFeng","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n\nSo now you are saying that an Islamic Bank is something other than\nBCCI.\n\nWould you care to explain why it was that when I said  \"I hope an \nIslamic Bank is something other than BCCI\", you called me a childish \npropagandist.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Steve Bellovin writes a well-thought-out and nearly persuasive article about\nwhy the Clipper (are we still calling it Clipper today, or have they figured\nout a non-infringing word yet?) protocol is almost as good as one can do\ngiven their marching ordes.\n\n\nI'll accept the second assumption only for the sake of argument.  In my\nview the primary remaining flaw is that the encryption algorithm is\nsecret, leading to suspicion that there is a back door.  Without complete\ndisclosure this suspicion cannot be dispelled, no matter how many trusted\nexperts are allowed to look at it in isolation.\n\nIs it possible to do this whole thing with a public algorithm?  The only\nconcern I've seen with making Skipjack public is that someone could build\nClipperphones without registering the keys.  Assume F can really be kept\nsecret as the Government assumes.  Then as part of the initial connection,\na Clipperphone executes a protocol with the Pseudophone to demonstrate\nthat they both know F.  For example, the initiating phone picks a number Q\nand sends E[Q; F].  The receiver sends back E[Q+1; F], and the initiator\nsends back E[Q+2; F] to demonstrate that her first packet wasn't just a\nrandom 64-bit block.  Repeat in the opposite direction with another Q so\nit can't be defeated by somebody building up a library of sequential\nnumbers by remembering responses and using those responses as the initial\nnumbers of subsequent challenges.  This way Clipperphones will talk only\nto other Clipperphones.  Of course the Pseudo Company can build their own\nproprietary Skipjack phone, but the Presidential Fact Sheet implies that\nthey won't get approval for it without equivalent key escrow.\n\nWhat's wrong with this picture?  It depends of F staying secret and on\nSkipjack being resistant to cryptanalysis, but the Government appears to\nbelieve in both of these.  Even if the particular Q&A I suggest has some\nflaw, I imagine there's a zero-knowledge-proof protocol that doesn't.\n\n\nAgreed.  My view, and you can quote me: if it's not worth doing, it's\nnot worth doing well.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nBut it is subject to all kinds of bias, and is almost completely useless\nfor first basemen.  From the raw stats, there is no way to tell which of\na first baseman's putouts were made on throws from other fielders, and\nwhich were made on his own plays; likewise, you can't tell whether a\ndouble play was 6-4-3 or 3-6-3.  Fielding Runs thus gives a first\nbaseman no credit for putouts or double plays, only for assists and\nerrors.  \n\nIt thus favors first basemen who play deep, reaching a lot of balls but\nforcing the pitcher to cover first more frequently.  It also hurts first\nbaseman who play behind left-handed pitching staffs and thus face few\nleft-handed batters.\n\n\nThis is better; of course, it still isn't all of a first baseman's\ndefense.\n\n\nDefensive Average, which uses larger (and probably better) zones, has\nMattingly tied for second in the league.\n\n\nWhile 233 batting runs is good, it is mostly in the past; the runs he\nproduced in 1986 don't say much about his value in 1993.  \n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nAccording to an AP report (from Texas, written by Jaime Aron) this morning,\nin addtion to the gas pumped in by hoses from CS generators, canisters of\ntear gas were thrown into the building from armored vehicles, one of the\ncanisters hitting a man inside in the face.\n\nThis was in the part of the article *before* going into differences in\nthe stories told by BD survivors and the gov't.\n\nTear gas canisters *used* to be able to start fires...\n\n\n\n\n\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"For some reason my fingers want to type \"probably\" cause whenever I want to\nsay \"probable\" cause. Sorry for any confusion in the previous message.\n\nDavid","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Please do not reply to this account - posting for a friend:\n\nGT-BMX bike, chrome frame, blue, alloy parts, z-rims, mint condition\nasking $300 obo.\n\nApple IIe 64k, floppy drive, monitor, Okidata Microline 92 printer, modem,\nand 30 disks of stuff.  Asking $400 obo.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\n\tI own a IIsi and I'm considering buying a Powerbook.  Can\nanyone give me a listing of all the models and tell me what I'm looking for,\ni.e. passive matrix vs. active, memory sizes, upgradeability, internal modems,\ndisk size.  If you could provide some prices too that would help.  I'm not\ninformed enough on Powerbooks to know how well they operate.  \n\tI have been following the posts on some of the problems that have been\nencountered such as the trackball not working in the horizontal.\n\tI would appreciate the list as well as any advice you may have.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":": \n: Dear, dear.  They could have COME OUT.\n: ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nYou said everyone in the world.  That means *everyone* in the world, including\nchildren that are not old enough to speak, let alone tell lies.  If Jesus\nsays \"everyone\", you cannot support that by referring to a group of people\nsomewhat smaller than \"everyone\".\n--\n\"On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Leftover Turkey!\nOn the second day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Turkey Casserole\n    that she made from Leftover Turkey.\n[days 3-4 deleted] ...  Flaming Turkey Wings! ...\n   -- Pizza Hut commercial (and M*tlu\/A*gic bait)","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":":\n\nI'm responding at the risk of misreading your response, but I do have to tell \nmy fellow conservatives to give it up, attacking Reno\/Clinton\/ATF\/FBI.\n\nThey may have botched an operation, but they didn't kill anybody who never shot\nat them first.  David Koresh was a frigging lunatic.  His followers had the \ncombined I.Q of a Geraldo audience.  The kids probably would have been those\nfucked up social rejects who go to Freshman dances in high school, never to be\nseen again (except maybe in the band) until prom, when they show up like \nanimals boarding the ark.  Then it's bowling till 3 in the morning..... \n(WHY....WHY?? did it happen to me??!!)\n\nAnyway, the point is Janet Reno\/Bill Clinton were only following the advice of \ntrained, law enforcement officials who were experts in their fields.  I'd \nrather have our leaders do that then micro-manage every crisis that comes \nalong.  Then you'd really see trouble no matter what party or ideology the \nPresident and her (er.. I mean his) Attorney General is.\n-- \nRyan C. Scharfy","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
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{"text":"\nThis is getting sad.  All you can do is make this ridiculous statements,\nbased upon some old information and a Press Democrat article that was\npoorly written.\n\nPlease show the numbers for your use of \"MUCH more\".  I have not seen\nthem.  And I want them to be true and accurate, or at least show a \ntrend within the everyday gay population.\n\nThere are all kinds of 'damaged and screwed up' people, and most of\nthem are not gay.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":".....\n\nI'll sell mine for $200 O.B.O.  -  Never Used, I've decided I just don't \nhave the time to get into C++.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n                                                                      ^^^^^^^\n        ^^^^\nPlease pardon my ignorance if this is well known, but what is the current \nrule? \n\n\n\nMaybe we could limit the number of throws to first that the pitcher can make,\nand award a balk if he exceeds it.  I'd have another question:  who would \noperate the pitch clock?  One of the umpires?  Add another one to the crew?\n\n\nI'm not sure I like this idea.  I think it would severely diminish the \nnumber of stolen bases and limit the availability of such neat strategic\nploys as the hit and run and the squeeze play (one of my personal favorites).\n\n\nAhhh!  I suppose I should read the whole article before I hit the 'f' key,\neh?  Obviously, from what I wrote above, I like this idea.\n\n\nIt may also increase the number of wild throws to the bag, since the \npitcher knows he doesn't have very many chances to pick off the runner,\nso he may hurry too much.  I'd rather see runs scored as the result of \nsound hitting and sound baseball strategy rather than on the sloppiness\nthat could result from this kind of rule.  So, I suppose there are some\ndisadvantages to that idea too.\n\n\n\nI remember in little league, if when up to bat we stepped out of the batter's\nbox, even for a moment, we were automatically out.  That may be a little \nharsh for the majors, but seriously, how about putting a limit on the \nbatters being able to step out, take several dozen practice swings, pound\ntheir shoes, scratch their balls, etc.?  Maybe forcing them to stay in the\nbatter's box wouldn't be such a bad idea.  That could save a few minutes.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n: As you know all ready, it is the pattern in the bioplasmic energy\n: field that is significant.\n\nNo, I didn't already know that.  I've never even heard of a\n\"bioplasmic energy field.\"  Care to explain it?  It's been a few years\nsince my last fields class so I may have forgotten (or maybe I skipped\nthat day).  Anyway, as Ross Perot said, I'm all ears.  Well, eyes in\nthis case.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Hi.  I'm  looking for information on how to directly manipulate\n video memory.  I have an application that I would like to use this for,\n because it is much faster than going through the BIOS.  I know that\n video memory ispart of the system area above the first 640K, so I guess\n I am looking to find out exactly what section of memory it is, and how it\n is layed out.     Thanks.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nI tend to agree, but I would like a better explanation of why the FBI stopped  \nthe firetrucks at the gate.  I saw this in realtime.  It concerns me that the  \nFBI \"appeared\" to not be too interested in stopping the fire after it started,  \nand actually started flying hueys around the compound, which had to add in some  \nsmall part to the winds driving the fire.\n\nJim\n--\njmd@handheld.com","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Having recently purchased a 93 Probe with clear-coat paint, I \nwould like to give it a good wax job.  What is the Best type of\nwax to use for this type of finish?  Is paste or liquid better?\nI would be waxing it by hand, and buffing it by hand, I guess\nusing cheesecloth to buff it (anything better you would suggest?).\n\nI've heard comments here before about things like Turtle Wax\nand Raindance not being very good, so I'm wondering what is\nrecommended for a quality finish.\n\nThanks in advance.\nBill\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"#\n# Does anyone know if the following is possible, and if so how do I go about\n# doing it.\n# \n# I want to be able to display remote X11 applications on a VAXstation 2000 off\n# of an Internet node. Here is where the problem comes up, the VAXstation isn't\n# connected directly to the Internet but is connected via Decnet to a node that\n# does have a connection to the Internet. Does anyone know if it is possible to\n# get the display to use TCPIP from the remote Internet node down to my local\n# Internet node and then send it via Decnet down to the VAXstation 2000?\n#\n\nFor the machine that is connected to the InterNet, what is it running?  If it\nis running VMS, then if you obtain MultiNet for it, MultiNet comes with a\nTCP\/IP to DECnet gateway for X11.\n\nPatrick L. Mahan\n\n--- TGV Window Washer ------------------------------- Mahan@TGV.COM ---------","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Newsgroups: misc.wanted,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers,\nSubject: Wanted: Manual of Polaroid Palette 72-10; $10\nDistribution: world\nOrganization: Clemson University, Clemson SC\n\nI need the Polaroid Palette Model 72-10 (or similar model) manual.\nI am willing to pay $10 for it, plus the shipping charge via USPS 3rd\nclass.\n\nI don't need the original one, photo-copyed manual will just fine for\nme.  If you have the manual, please help me out.\n\nThanks in advance.\n\nEric (803)6548817","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"You can use PBM's 'rawtopgm' to convert three raw (r, g, b) files to pgm format. Then you can use pgm3toppm to convert the pgm files to a composite ppm file,\nand feed this to cjpeg for compression. Slow, and circuitous, but it will\nwork.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nWell,  if you're willing to spend a little money,  you could buy one\nof those IDE caching controllers (assuming you have an IDE of course)\nand put the 256K SIMMs on them.  Hardware cache!","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nIn fact, this \"productive human presence\" in the desert has, in the\ncenturies it has been there, produced one of the greatest\ncivilizations in human history.  They not only created the wheel, but\nthe printing press, the light bulb, Post-Modern skyscraper\narchitecture, Broadway theatre and nuclear power, as well.\n\n\nRight, Elias.  The Negev was a veritable Garden of Eden until the Evil\nJews turned off the rain and turned it into a horrible desert.  Part\nof the International Jewish Conspiracy.  Say, who should I call to\nturn off the rain here in NY, right now?\n\n\nYeah, deserts rarely look like the Garden of Eden.\n\n\nThis is why Nature Reserves people are heavily armed with anti-tank\nweaponry.  Just what we need in the Nature Reserves.\n\n\nNothing like \"vast nuclear reactors\" when it comes to hiding them from\nair attack.  AT least Saddam had the sense to hide his CBN plants in\n\"baby milk\" factories.\n\n\nIndeed, many older people recall fondly those lovely tomatoes and\noranges that the Bedouin exported form their Garden of Eden.  In fact,\nthat region used to supply the entire world with bananas, until the\nJews pushed that business onto the \"banana republics\".\n\n\n\n\nElias, you're stupid postings are a source of considerable amusement\nand hilarity.  Please don't stop.  I might even have to go back to\nwatching TV.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I have the following Marx Brothers tapes forsale. I would like to sell\nthem as a batch if possible. All (except *) are new, carfully stored\ncopies I bought. I now own the laserdisks.\n\nMGM\/UA:\nA Day at the Races\nAt the Circus\nThe Big Store\n\nMCA\nHourse Feathers\nThe Cocoanuts\nDuck Soup*\nAnimal Crackers*\n\n\n-- \nbrian\noplinger@ra.crd.ge.com","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I recently purchased an IBM monochrome vga monitor from Mike Damico. The\nmonitor arrived but it was missing it's power cable. Mike's address is\napparently not a proper address because mail can't reach it. If anyone\nknows how to contact Mike and could help me find him I would appreciate it.\nI am sure he just set aside the power cord as he was packing the monitor\nbut it would be a lot more useful to me if I had the cord as well.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nIt's not quite what you were asking, but a few years ago I helped some EE\nremote sensing people run some experiments on the microwave emmissivity of\nice; they used the sky for a background calibration source.  They said that\nfrom Earth's surface the sky looks like a 60K blackbody.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\tFirst you need to connect them with a null modem cable.\n\nAtleast thats what I've heard.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Tasco 18EB 20X-60X60mm, used once, looks like new, worth $170, sell\n$70 only.  Buyers pay shipping.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"You unfortunately failed to mention if the error occurs with the Parity Error\nChecking enabled or disabled.  I assume you mean it gives you a parity error\nwhen it's enabled, and not when it's disabled.  How high will the count go on\nthe memory check at boot-up before this error occurs?  Does the system beep\nat all; if so what's the pattern of beeps?  The error could be occuring in\nCache memory (not so likely) or video memory, as well as the simms.\n\nThe fact that you have AMI bios is not conclusive in determining the board\nmanufacturer either.  Boards are made by thousands of small Taiwanese companies\n(among others) that buy the name brand chips and put them together with some\nsimm sockets to make your board.  I tend to doubt your problem is with your\nIDE controller, also.\n\nAnyway, perhaps if you answer those questions someone can help you out better.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Hello everybody out there !\n\nI'm trying to compile X11R5pl23 and Motif 1.2.1 on a HP running\nHP-UX 8.05. But it' seems to be not very succesful, because \nI have only hp.cf config-files for HP-UX 7.0. \n\nI tried standard cc and X was compiled with a lot of warnings.\nThe motif applications are compiled quite well, but they won't run.\nI receive the XKeysymDB error which is reported in FAQ, but\nI cannot fix it. The XKeysymDB-file is at the right location and it\nworks fine under SunOS.\nProbably I have started the compilation Prozess only with a wrong\nconfig-file.\n\nPlease help me !\n  \nThanx in advance \n  Markus\n\n-----------------------------------------------------------------\n Markus Koch                           Universitaet-GH Paderborn \n Email : raistlin@uni-paderborn.de     Rechnerbetreuung\n Phone : +49 5251 60 3322              Warburger Str. 100\n         +49 5251 60 3318              W4790 Paderborn, Germany\n----------------------------------------------------------------- \n--\n\n-----------------------------------------------------------------\n Markus Koch                           Universitaet-GH Paderborn \n Email : raistlin@uni-paderborn.de     Warburger Str. 100\n Phone : +49 5251 60 3322              W4790 Paderborn, Germany","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n: That's not inner calm.  It's boredom, and it's being spoiled.  The Arena's\n: been as quiet as a church on many nights this year; too many of us just\n: take winning for granted.  It's been seemingly forever since the team\n: lost, and we've forgotten what it's like to feel real excitement and\n: surprise at victory.\n\nAt least last night there was some excitement. The Pens \ndidn't have it wrapped up before the game was half over like \nthe previous two games. I'm not sure if NJ just rose up and \nplayed better or if the Penguins just started to play down \nsomewhat. Probably it was somewhere in between. New Jersey \nseemed much more aggressive last night in the Pens end. They \ndid much more swarming around, which at least kept an \nelement of suspense in the game. No question that Billington \nhelped make it more interesting also. Claude Lemieux didn't \nhelp the cause any though, with his ejection early in the \ngame. So, who's going to start in the Devils goal for the \n\"final\" game Sunday? ;-) Sorry. I couldn't help myself.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"From: harelb@math.cornell.edu (misc.activism.progressive co-moderator)\nSubject: F<O>CUS\/HEALTH: How U.S. compares... Children\/Elderly in Poverty\n\nF<O>CUS\/HEALTH: How U.S. compares... Children\/Elderly in Poverty\n\n  ================================================================== \n  Percentage of children and elderly living in poverty 1984-1987:(3) \n  ================================================================== \n\n================================================= \n                      CHILDREN            ELDERLY \nCOUNTRY              IN POVERTY         IN POVERTY \n================================================= \nUnited States           20.4               10.9 \nCanada                   9.3                2.2 \nAustralia                9.0                4.0 \nUnited Kingdom           7.4                5.2 \nFrance                   4.6                4.5 \nNetherlands              3.8                3.4 \nGermany                  2.8                2.8 \nSweden                   1.6                4.3 \n\nSource: Timothy M. Smeeding, \"U.S. Poverty and Income Security Policy in a \nCross National Perspective, October 1991, Luxembourg, October, 1991, \nLuxembourg Income Study, working paper 70. \n\n******************************************************************\n\n===================================== \nOf the 19 Western Industrial Nations: \n===================================== \n\nWestern Industrial Countries having a National Health Insurance plan \nproviding universal coverage: \n\nAustralia      YES    Sweden             YES \nCanada         YES    United Kingdom     YES \nDenmark        YES    Austria            YES \nFinland        YES    France             YES \nIreland        YES    Switzerland        YES \nItaly          YES    Spain              YES \nJapan          YES    Belgium            YES \nNew Zealand    YES    Germany            YES \nNetherlands    YES    Norway             YES  \n\n - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - \n\nWestern Industrial Countries NOT having a National Health Insurance \nplan providing universal coverage. \n\n\nUnited States       NO \n\n - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - \n\n******************************************************************\n\nFrom page 74 of: \n\n - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -    \n_We're Number One, Where America Stands -- and Falls -- in the New      \nWorld Order_ by Andrew L Shapiro.     \n\nNew York, May 1992, Vintage Books, a division of Random House.     \n$10 paperback. ISBN 0-679-73893-2    \n - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -     \n[Transcribed by jhwoodar@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Woodard)] \n\n    ``America is becoming a land of private greed and public squalor.     \n    This book is an indispensable road map through the wreckage. The     \n    facts it reveals will startle you. They may depress you. But     \n    ideally they'll fire you up to help rebuild this nation.'' ","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"[deleted stuff from Andrew wrt which atheist myth is Bill re: to]\n\n\"Counterfeit atheists\". Hmmmm. So, we're just cheap knock-offs of the\nTrue Atheists. \n\nReligion demonstrates itself to be absurd. Constantly. Personally, if \nsomeone asks, I'm happy to point out how this is so. \n\n\nMan, what *is* your pill wrt atheists? If you're going to make such\ncontentious statements, back them up! At least, READ NEWS: time-and-time\nagain, we've hashed out the beliefs various religous doctrines hold. \nTry debating reasonably with someone who makes a statement like, \n\"...more accurately oxymoric is the a term like, reasonable atheist.\"\nThen take a look at the responses we've given Tammy. Seem pretty\n\"reasonable\", nay, even \"polite\" to me. \n\n[accusations of myths a-flyin']\n\nI saw your reference to \"According to\" in the original article.\nThen you do such an excellent job of spewing dogma that, well, the\nimplication was pretty clear (if wrong, in this case).\n\n[jeez, a misunderstanding. Let it go.]\n\n[more statements to wrap this thing up]\n\nIf you had WRITTEN your post with the same as care as the FAQ has been,\nwe wouldn't be having this discussion.\n\n[gems about evidence deleted]\n\n\nJeez, do I have to point this out to you? This discussion is not all\ninstances of human reason. Therefore, your implication is false.\n\n\n\nHow lame can you get. Who said anything about the 'truth' of things?\nRead the FAQ very carefully, please. Then report your findings about\nwhere it says the purpose of a.a is to find the 'truth' of things.\n\nAnd stop impressing your own misguided image of atheists upon us. It's\nreally pissing me off.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n: The same works for the horrors of history.  To claim that Christianity\n: had little to do with the Crusades or the Inquisition is to deny the\n: awesome power that comes from faith in an absolute.  What it seems you\n: are doing twisting the reasonable statement that religion was never\n: the solitary cause of any evil into the unreasonable statement that\n: religion has had no evil impacts on history.  That is absurd.\n\nScott,\n\nUntil this paragraph I would willingly amend my earlier statements,\nsince your point(s) are well made and generally accurate. This last\npart though slips into hyperbole. Since I've discussed my objections to\nsuch generalizations before, I really don't feel I need to do it\nagain. If you haven't seen those posts, ask Maddi, she saves\neverything I write.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":": Recently an e-mail to me mentioned:\n\n: (Technically, the messengers aren't even human so\n: it *can't* be a case of \"homosexuality\" -- even of rape.) [...]\n\n: The Jude reference to Sodom is also meaningful only in the context of\n: the Sodomites' \"lust\" for the \"other flesh\" of angels.  Again,\n: application to homosexual behavior in general, or to the position of\n: gay Christians is largeely specious.\n: ***\n: Are angels \"flesh\"? No. I feel that this is saying that it was because\n: of their lust after other men, who are flesh( or of this world).\n\n: what are other opinons on this? I haven't heard much about this verse  \n: at all.\n\nBo Reike in the Anchor Bible volume on _James, Peter, and Jude_ points\nout that all the examples given in this section of Jude are distinguishing\nthe elect from _apostates_, not just the wicked in general.  Hence, those\nwho were delivered from Egypt, but did not follow Moses (and, by extension,\nGod); the apostate angels; and Sodom and Gomorrah.  Quoting Reike:\n\n\t\"Fornication may here, as often in the New Testament,\n\trefer to idolatry, while \"flesh\" (as in I Pet 1:24) \n\tdenotes human society and its violent attempts at self-\n\texaltation.  Sodom and Gommorrah represent the leaders\n\tof apostasy, and the surrounding cities correspond to\n\ttheir followers.\" [p. 199]\n\n\nThere is no inherent reason to read this verse (7) as literally referring\nto actual sexual lust for \"alien flesh\".  Nor is it inherently necessary\nto understand it as referring to homosexuality, outside of the circular\nreasoning that has already concluded that the sin of Sodom is the sin\nof homosexuality.  The only place that the sin of Sodom is specified, and\nnot merely inferred, is in Ezekiel 16:49 \"This was the guilt of your sister\nSodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease,\nbit did not aid the poor and needy.  They were haughty, and did abominable\nthings before me; therefore I removed them when I saw it.\n\nFor the same reason (overliteralizing the text) your correspondent's\nsuggestion that the reason the passage doesn't deal with homosexuality\nis because the guests were angels and not men is just silly.  There \nare much more solid reasons for pointing out the irrelevance of the\nSodom passages for dealing with homosexuality per se.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nThis pretty much confirms my original impression after reading\nthrough the documentation on dos-6.  The double space sounds nice,\nbut NOT on your primary disk!!  I'll probably wind up making a\ndisk partition d: and doublespacing *it*, using it as an archive.\nProbably would be useful on floppy disks as well.  But on c:?  Uh, uh...\n\n[I particularly disliked the note that said something like \"double\nspace is irreversible\"].\n\n--Cindy\n-- \nCindy Tittle Moore","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nMy reason for saying that was 'cause _I_, if _I_ were a cop\nwouldn't go out of my way to tell people how to break the law.\n\nWould you?\n\nThe part about honesty was a joke, sorta.\n\nObviously, people have had bad experiences with cops\nlying.  Obviously, nobody's perfect and nobody\n_always_ tells the truth about everything.\n\n(Or are you God? 1\/4 ;)\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":": > From: elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg) \n:      Bzzzzt.  THANK you for playing, but obviously you are not reading the \n:   material as it is presented.  According to the report I've got in my \n:   hands, the Newsweek article (which reported that \"2 to 3 percent\" of the \n:   population is gay) used the criteria of \"No heterosexual contact in the \n:   past year.\"  But at the same time, the University of Denver study points \n:   out, quite dramatically, that 60% of all self-identifying gay men have \n: > had some form of heterosexual contact in the past year. \n: \n: I think the big mistake in that study must be that if one had had no sexual \n: contact of any kind in the previous year, they are counted as heterosexual.\n: Even if they didn't intend it that way, that's how the figures are being used.\n\nCould someone please post some date such as what questonnares where used\nand how they were distributed and returned.\n\n--","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":": After reading the posts on this newsgroup for the pasts 4 months, it \n: has become apparent to me that this group is primarily active with \n: Liberals, Catholics, New Agers', and Athiests.  Someone might think \n: to change the name to:  soc.religion.any   - or -  perhaps even\n: soc.religion.new.  It might seem to be more appropriate.\n: Heck, don't flame me, I'm Catholic, gay, and I voted \n: for Bill Clinton.  I'm on your side!                      \n\nSince when did conservative, protestant, old-time religion believers get\nan exclusive francise to christianity?  Christianity is, and always has\nbeen, a diverse and contentious tradition, and this group reflects that\ndiversity.  I, fo one, am not ready to concede to _any_ group- be they\n\"liberal\" or \"conservative\", catholic, protestant, or orthodox, charismatic\nor not- the right to claim that they have _the truth_, and everyone else\nis not \"christian.\"","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Here's the scoop:\n\nFor the past two years, I have been using an SE\/30 with a Sony 1304s and\na Lapis video card.  This past month, I bought a Quadra 800 and am now \nusing the Sony on it.  My SE\/30 has been shipped home to my father who\nis planning on getting an Apple 14\" monitor (The Trinitron one).  My\nquestion is this:  What kind of power cord will he get with the Apple\nmonitor.  Does it come with two types?  As I recall, one can hook up the\npower cord of an apple monitor to the back of a machine such as my \nQuadra 800.  However, for my father's SE\/30, there is no extra plug which\nallows use of the SE\/30's power supply.  He needs to plug it into the\nsocket separately.  So...does the monitor come with a cable that will allow\nhim to do this?  Will have to buy a different cable?  IF yes, where can he\npurchase such a cable? or apple kind enough to provide both types of cables?\n\nThanks in advance,\nDerek\n\n\n\n\n******************************************************************************\n  DEREK FONG                           *   EMAIL: thewho@plume.mit.edu\n  Dept. of Physical Oceanography       *          thewho@darla.whoi.edu","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
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{"text":"I hate to sound flippant, having shot off my mouth badly on the net\nbefore, but I'm afraid that much of this material only adds to my\nfeeling that \"the assumption of Mary\" would be better phrased \"our\nassumptions _about_ Mary.\"  In all the time I've been reading about\nMary on this group, I can not recall reading much about Mary that\ndid not sound like wishful veneration with scant, if any, Scriptural\nfoundation.  \n\nI find in the New Testament a very real portrait of Christ's parents\nas compellingly human persons; to be honored and admired for their\nhumility and submission to God's working, beyond doubt.  But the almalga-\nmation of theories and dogma that has accreted around them gives me\nan image of alien and inhuman creatures, untouched by sin or human\ndesire.  Only Christ himself was so truly sanctified, and even He knew\ntemptation, albeit without submitting to it.\n\nI also don't see the _necessity_ of saying the Holy Parents were some-\nhow sanctified beyond normal humanity: it sounds like our own inability\nto grasp the immensity of God's grace in being incarnated through an or-\ndinary human being.  \n\nI won't start yelling about how people are \"worshipping\" Mary, etc.,\nsince folks have told me otherwise about that, but I do think we\nlose part of the wonder of God's Incarnation in Christ when we make\nhis parents out to be sinless, sexless, deathless, otherworldly beings.\n  ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nIndeed so; it's at the extreme limit of what is humanly possible.  It is\npossible only because Mount Everest is at a fairly low latitude:  there\nis a slight equatorial bulge in the atmosphere -- beyond what is induced\nby the Earth's rotation -- thanks to the overall circulation pattern of\nthe atmosphere (air cools at poles and descends, flowing back to equator\nwhere it is warmed and rises), and this helps just enough to make Everest-\nwithout-oxygen feasible.  Only just feasible, mind you:  the guys who did\nit reported hallucinations and other indications of oxygen starvation,\nand probably incurred some permanent brain damage.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"DEC LK250-AA PC keyboard for sale:\n\n   - automatically senses machine type and switches between AT\/XT modes\n\n   - same exact key layout as DEC's VT2xx, VT3xx, etc., with DEC \n        names on keys as well as PC names\n\n   - standard AT\/XT cable included\n\n   - great for use with a VTxxx terminal emulator - all the keys are there\n        and in the correct place. (i.e. GOLD PF1, PF2, etc.)\n\n   - perfect condition, very good feel\n\n   - $130 + shipping  (DEC price was around $300)\n\nSend email if you have questions.\n\nThanks,\nKeith","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n\tMore to the point, how long are atheists going to be insulted\n\tby the disgraceful addition of religious blah-blah to our \n\tmoney and out pledge?\n-- \n\t\"What's big, noisy and has an IQ of 8?\"","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\nI think you're deliberatly overstating the requirements for OS\/2.  \nConsidering that OS\/2 is a multi-threaded true multitasking OS and\ntakes the place of DOS and Windows and more, I actually think the \nrequirements for OS\/2 are very reasoable.  I also think that anyone\nusing Windows 3.1 without 8 megs of RAM, a 386-40, and 200 megs of\nhard drive space, is beating their head against a wall.  Those are\nalso legitimate requirements for OS\/2.  In fact, the requirements \nfor Windows 3.1 and OS\/2 are about equal.  \n  ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n[Much discussion about economics of safety deleted]\n\n\nThis is a very simplistic view of safety. Assuming that you are in a collision\n(less likely with a more agile smaller car), then the important factor\nis how well does the car sacrifice itself to save you. This is why a thousand\npound F1 car can hit a wall at 200 and the driver walks out and why\neverybody dies when a Suburban hits a wall at 35 (as I recall for the last\ngeneration Suburban HIC numbers). \n\nAs an aside, just what is the point of an airbag? It seems to me that\nseatbelts with pretensioners (Audi et al), or a good tight 5 point belt \nwill prevent you every moving far enough to hit the airbag. You might be\n\nsaved from some flyign glass? Or is an airbag just a lowest common denominator\nsafety device that is of some use in a head on collision when you are\nwearing no seat belt? ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":": I've seen people in their forties and fifties become disoriented and\n: demented during hospital stays. In the examples I've seen, drugs were\n: definitely involved. \n\n: My own father turned into a vegetable for a short time while in the\n: hospital. He was fifty-three at the time, and he was on 21 separate\n: medications. The family protested, but the doctors were adamant, telling\n: us that none of the drugs interact. They even took the attitude that, if\n: he was disoriented, they should put him on something else as well! With\n: the help of an MD friend of the family, we had all his medication\n: discontinued. He had a seizure that night, and was put back on one drug.\n: Two days later, he was his old self again. I guess there aren't many\n: medical texts that address the subject of 21-way interactions.\n\nI saw the same thing happen to my father, and I can more or less validate your\ntake on hospitals.  It seems to me that medical science understands precious\nlittle about taking care of the human machine.  Drugs are given as a\nresponse to symptoms (and I guess that makes sense since all the studies that \nvalidate the effectiveness of those drugs are based on a narrow\nassessment of the degree of particular symptoms).  But there seems\nto be very little appreciation for the well-being of a person\noutside of the numbers that appear on a test.  I watched my dad\nwither away and lose huge amounts of body fat and muscles tissue\nwhile in the hospital.  There is something a little crazy about a\nsystem in which there is more attention paid to giving you every\nlatest drug available than there is attention paid to whether you\nhave had enough to eat to prevent loss of muscle tissue.  It is\nreally, really bizarre.    \n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\tGood advice.\n\n\tMy Ol'lady taps me on the shoulder to let me know she is \n\tuncomfortable.  I, in turn, am prepared for her to move about on the \n\tback of the bike.\n\n\tWe had 1 bad crash (nail in rear tire on left hand sweeper at crest \n\tof hill on pavement\/pea-gravel road) and her actions helped lessen \n\tthe severity of it.  As we were crashing, she stayed upright in the \n\tsaddle with her feet on the pegs and her hands about my waist.  I was\n\table to get the bike slowed down 10-15mph before we were high-sided.\n\tShe got off with a fair case of road rash and I had to have the doc \n\tremove a lot of rocks from my knee.  Had she panicked we would have \n\tprobably crashed at greater speed causing greater injury.\n\tBTW, as soon at the tire went flat, we went into VIOLENT tank-\n\tslappers.  This is what she rode out in a \"normal\" riding posture!\n\n ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====----","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n > \n > Regarding the horror stories about DOS6\/DOUBLEDISK and STACKER 2.?\n > killing hard drives:\n > \n > I was wondering if the dos 6 MIRROR command works on the doubled\n > drive info as well as the normal fat table and partition table.\n > If it records the vital DoubleDisk info, then using it daily\n > should go a long way toward protecting yourself against the\n > type of catastrophic failure discussed.  If it doesn't, then\n > shame on Microsoft.\n > \n\n MIRROR is one of those DOS commands that didn't survive the change \n from DOS 5.0.  It's been dropped, along with BACKUP, JOIN, EDLIN  \n and a couple other crummy old DOS commands.  You can still use the\n 5.0 commands if you absolutely have to, but they are not included\n on the 6.0 distribution disks.\n\n However, in MIRROR's case, I'm 99.9% certain that it does not know\n anything about DoubleSpaced drives...\n\n\nEric","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nAre you serious?!!!  Here's an exercise next time you are in the barnyard. \nTake *your* model and hold it directly above a fresh cowpie.  Then release the\nmodel.  You will observe that on its own *your* model will assume a trajectory\nearthward and come to rest exactly where it belongs.  Watch out for splatters,\nparticularly if you are wearing shorts when you perform this experiment.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nI am not quite so sure about the illegality of using a regular American phone\non your home system. I vaguely remember a few years ago, when \"Deutsche\nBundespost\" split into Postdienst, Postbank, and Telekom there was some\ndiscussion about a new regulation. I know that cordless or cellular phones\nstill have to be approved by the Telekom, but does that hold true for regular\nphones? In my areacode in Germany (2234 - Frechen, near Koeln) you can use\ntouch-tone dialing. I assume, however, that most areas are still exclusively\nset to pulse dialing. Last time I checked (Jan '93) the Cologne areacode 221\nwas still solely pulse dialing.\n\nBTW, touch tone does become more common in Germany, bringin with it the\nflourishing of 1-900 services (in Germany 0190). I just hope we'll all have\nISDN some time at an affordable price - idle wishes...\n\nMarkus Iturriaga                \n                           \"Things go smoother with lard!\"\niturriag@utkvx.utk.edu       \"Bring back the glory that was grease!\" \niturriag@utkvx.bitnet           -East Tennessee Lard Advisory Council  \n\n                            MILLARD FILLMORE LIVES!   ","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Can someone elaborate a little on what this \"Libertarian\" movement is? I\nam not going to draw conclusions from a small sample, but so far I\nrecall two self-described \"Libertarians\" posting here. Both seems to be:\n\n1) Incredibly ignorant.\n2) Incredibly arrogant.\n3) All they want is to get people angry.\n4) Posses a lousy sense of humor.\n5) write incoherently and jump from topic to topic without any logical\n   connection between topics.\n6) Describe themselves as intelligent and knowledgeable, although everything\n   in their posters points to the opposite.\n7) Very childish.\n\nIs this some campaign to smear this Libertarian party or what?","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Sometimes when I boot up windows 3.1, after the windows logo comes up it han\ngs, I am using Dos 6 and doublespace, and a 5 meg temp swap file on an\nuncompressed drive.\nBut when I press the reset button on the computer,  windows boots up\nfine... Why is this??? is it dos 6?\n-- ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\ngood but where are these drivers??\n\n\nanybody at Actix listening?  Upload the dang drivers to an ftp site pleeeeeeese?!\n\ncheers,\n\nKym\n\n_______________________________________________________________________________\n\nKym A. Burgemeister\nDepartment of Mechanical Engineering\nUniversity of Adelaide\nSouth Australia                                            Ph.   +61 8 228 4713\n5005                                                       Facs. +61 8 224 0464","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Wow, I hadn't realized how VENOMOUS this was getting!  Be careful here...the\nproblem isn't the rich but the values and the systems that make the rich\nrich.  Things are designed in such a way that in order to go with the system\nand make money, everything ELSE we care about goes to shit.  I have to\nconstantly remind myself that the goal of human society is not to make\nmoney.  Money doesn't make us happy; it just prevents certain things making\nus more unhappy.\n\nTherefore, don't shoot the rich.  Shoot the conservatives!\n\nDrewcifer","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n   Here's a listing that I came accross a while ago.  This question seems to \ncome up often enough that I figured this would be of interest.  Note that \nthe server \"X Appeal\" for DOS is available in demo form on the internet via \nanonymous ftp.  This is one way of quickly checking out the feasability of \nusing your system as an X server.  Enjoy!\n\n- Pete\n\n------------------------------- Begin Enclosure ----------------------------\nFrom: mccoy@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov (Daniel J. McCoy)\nNewsgroups: comp.windows.x,news.answers\nSubject: X Servers for DOS, Microsoft Windows, OS\/2, Macs, Amigas, Atari\nReply-To: mccoy@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov (Daniel J. McCoy)\nOrganization: I-NET Inc.\nSummary: This is a guide or list of X servers that can be used on nonUNIX [sic] networked machines to display X clients running on UNIX machines.\n\nArchive-name: XServers-NonUNIX\nLast-modified: 1993\/04\/01\nVersion: 12.0\n\n================================================================================\n     X Servers for DOS, Microsoft Windows, OS\/2, Macs, Amigas, Atari\n================================================================================\n                      April 1, 1993 - Volume 12.0\n================================================================================\nAUTHOR:         Daniel J. McCoy\n                I-NET Inc.\n                Software Technology Branch\n                Information Systems Directorate\n                NASA\/Johnson Space Center\n\nPOST MAIL:      NASA Mail Code PT4\n                NASA\/Johnson Space Center\n                Houston, Texas 77058\n\nE-MAIL:         mccoy@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov\n================================================================================\nThis is a monthly guide of X servers that can be used on non-UNIX\nnetworked machines to display X clients running on UNIX machines.  I\nuse the name UNIX loosely here.  I know others can run X.\n\nThe sources for this information come from many places:  the FAQ for\ncomp.windows.x, blurbs and info packets from the vendors, user manuals\nfor the products themselves, conversations with sales representatives,\npersonal experience, comp.windows.x articles, etc.\n\nPlease forward any corrections or updates to the above address.\n\nThis file is also available by anonymous ftp at:\n        export.lcs.mit.edu[18.24.0.12] in \/contrib\/XServers-NonUNIX.txt.Z\n        ftp.uwp.edu[131.210.1.4] in \/pub\/misc\/XServers-NonUNIX.txt\n        msdos.archive.umich.edu[141.211.164.153] in\n                msdos\/info\/XServers-NonUNIX.txt and msdos\/info\/xnonunix.zip\n\n\nX Servers for DOS:\n        DESQview\/X\n        IBM X\/Windows\n        Micro X-DOS\n        Micro X-lite\n        PC DECWindows Motif V3.0\n        PC X-Windows\n        PC Xsight\n        PC-XView\n        SAGE 1280 Adapter and X Windows Display Server\n        TeemTalk-X\n        Vista-eXceed\n        X Appeal\n        Xinet X-Station\n        Xnth\n        XoftWare for DOS\n        XoftWare for TIGA\/DOS\n\nX Servers Microsoft Windows:\n        DESQview\/X\n        eXcursion for Windows\n        eXodus for MS Windows\n        HCL-eXceed\/W\n        MicroX\n        MultiView\/X\n        PC-XView\n        Vista-eXceed\n        X-One\n        X11\/AT\n        XoftWare\n        XVision\n\nX Servers OS\/2:\n        IBM X-Windows for OS\/2\n\nX Servers Macintosh:\n        eXodus\n        MacX\n\nX Servers Amiga:\n        UNKNOWN\n        X Window System Version 11 Release for the Amiga Computer\n\nX Servers Atari:\n        X\/TOS\/window\/server and X\/TOS\/window\/server\/color\n==X-Servers==X-Servers==X-Servers==X-Servers==X-Servers==X-Servers==X-Servers===\n\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\nDESQview\/X\n==========\nVendor:\n        Melinda\n        Quarterdeck Office Systems, Inc.\n        150 Pico Boulevard\n        Santa Monica, CA 90405\n        TEL: (310)392-9851\n        FAX: (310)399-3802\nPrice:\n        $275\nLatest Version:\n        1.0\nCPU:\n        386SX or higher (286 version available)\nMemory:\n        4 Mbytes\nOperating System:\n        DOS 3.0 or higher\n        DR DOS 6 or higher\nMouse:\n        optional - MS compatible pointing device\nGraphics:\n        EGA, VGA, Super VGA, 8514\/A, or 256 color DGIS\nEthernet Card:\n\nNetwork Software:\n\nDisk Space:\n        40 Mbyte hard drive\nFeatures:\n        incorporates X into the DESQview multi-tasking DOS environment\n        adds a graphical 3D look and feel to DESQview\n        gives users a choice of window managers (look and feels)\n        provides a growth path from character mode DOS to industry standard\n                graphical user interfaces\n        runs most regular DOS applications\n        runs DOS Extended applications up to 4Gbytes\n        can display DOS applications within graphical windows\n        multitasks DOS applications and X Clients either locally or remotely\n        provides a simple port of applications from other X systems to\n                DESQview\/X and vice versa\n        gives developers a choice of application appearances, based on toolkit\n                chosen\n        supports toolkits that provide features required by developers such as\n                push buttons, scrollbars, pop up dialogue boxes, etc.\n        Adobe Type Manager for scalable fonts and scalable DOS windows\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\n\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\nIBM X\/Windows\n=============\nVendor:\n        IBM\n        part #5765-025\nPrice:\n\nLatest Version:\n        2.1\nCPU:\n\nMemory:\n\nOperating System:\n        DOS\nMouse:\n\nGraphics:\n\nEthernet Card:\n\nNetwork Software:\n\nDisk Space:\n\nFeatures:\n\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\n\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\nMicro X-DOS\n===========\nVendor:\n        StarNet Communications Corporation\n        3073 Lawrence Expressway\n        Santa Clara, CA 95051\n        TEL: (408)739-0881\n        FAX: (408)739-0936\n        micro-x@starnet.com\nPrices:\n        $345.00 1 unit\n        $225.00 ea. 5 pack (greater discount for larger quantities)\n        upgrades at 25% of original price\n        educational discount of 10%\nLatest Version:\n        1.6.1\nCPU:\n        386, 486\nMemory:\n        2 Mbytes\nOperating System:\n        DOS 3.1 or higher\nMouse:\n        2 or 3 button mouse with MS compatible driver\nGraphics:\n        Ahead(V5000)\n        ATI(18800)\n        Everex(VP VGA)\n        Genoa(6400)\n        Paradise(900C00\/11\/30)\n        STB(EM-16)\n        Trident(8800CS)\n        Tseng Labs(ET-3000-4000)\n        Video7(HT208 V7VGA)\n        Western Digital(900C00\/11\/30)\n        ZyMOS(Poach51)\n        VESA\n        and others\nEthernet Card:\n        3Com\/3C501\/503\/505\/523\n        3Com EtherLink\/MC\n        Cabletron 1-2-3000\n        Micom-Interlan NI5010-5210\n        Western Digital WD80003E\n        Novell NE-1000\/2000\n        National Semiconductor\n        boards that have their own packet driver from manufacturer\nNetwork Software Included:\n        StarNet TCP\/IP (integrated)\n        NCSA Telnet, ftp, lpr, etc.\n        Packet Drivers (Clarkson\/Crynwr)\nNetwork Software Supported:\n        Beame & Whiteside - BW-TCP\n        FTP Software - PC\/TCP\n        Sun - PC-NFS\nDisk Space:\n        3 Mbytes (9 Mbytes for all fonts)\n        5-1\/4 1.2 Mbyte or 3-1\/2 1.44 Mbyte needed\nFeatures:\n        X11R4\n        Intelligent installation program\n        TCP\/IP built-in\n        Support Motif, OPEN LOOK, and DEC\n        Supports Clarkson (Crynwr) packet drivers\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\n\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\nMicro X-lite\n============\nVendor:\n        StarNet Communications Corporation\n        3073 Lawrence Expressway\n        Santa Clara, CA 95051\n        TEL: (408)739-0881\n        FAX: (408)739-0936\n        micro-x@starnet.com\nPrices:\n        $75.00\nLatest Version:\n        1.5.3\nCPU:\n        286, 386, 486\nMemory:\n        640 Kbytes\nOperating System:\n        DOS 3.1 or higher\nMouse:\n        2 or 3 button mouse with MS compatible driver\nGraphics:\n        Ahead(V5000)\n        ATI(18800)\n        Everex(VP VGA)\n        Genoa(6400)\n        Paradise(900C00\/11\/30)\n        STB(EM-16)\n        Trident(8800CS)\n        Tseng Labs(ET-3000-4000)\n        Video7(HT208 V7VGA)\n        Western Digital(900C00\/11\/30)\n        ZyMOS(Poach51)\n        VESA \n        and others\nEthernet Card:\n        3Com\/3C501\/503\/505\/523\n        3Com EtherLink\/MC\n        Cabletron 1-2-3000\n        Micom-Interlan NI5010-5210\n        Western Digital WD80003E\n        Novell NE-1000\/2000\n        National Semiconductor\n        boards that have their own packet driver from manufacturer\nNetwork Software Included:\n        StarNet TCP\/IP (integrated)\n        NCSA Telnet, ftp, lpr, ...\n        Packet Drivers (Clarkson\/Crynwr)\nNetwork Software Supported:\n        Beame & Whiteside - BW-TCP\n        FTP Software - PC\/TCP\n        Sun - PC-NFS\nDisk Space:\n        2 Mbytes\n        5-1\/4 1.2 Mbyte or 3-1\/2 1.44 Mbyte needed\nFeatures:\n        X11R4\n        Intelligent installation program\n        TCP\/IP built-in\n        8 clients on screen at time\n\tFixed font oriented (variable fonts available)\n        Support Motif, OPEN LOOK, and DEC\n        Supports Clarkson (Crynwr) packet drivers\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\n\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\nPC DECWindows Motif V3.0\n========================\nVendor:\n        Dennis Giokas\n        PC DECWindows Development\n        Digital Equipment Corporation\n        30 Porter Rd.\n        Littleton, MA 01460\nPrice:\n\nLatest Version:\n        V3.0\nCPU:\n        286, 386\nMemory:\n        up to 15 Mbytes\nOperating System:\n        MS-DOS\nMouse:\n        any pointing device with MS Mouse V6.0 or later interface\nGraphics:\n        EGA (16 color and mono)\n        MCGA\n        VGA (16 color and mono)\n        enhanced VGA (800x600 16 color and mono)\n        8514\/A (1024x768 16\/256 color)\n        pseudo color visual\nEthernet Card:\n\nNetwork Software:\n        TCP\/IP and DECnet\nDisk Space:\n\nFeatures:\n        X11 Release 4 server\n        integrated virtual memory manager\n        standard IBM-compatible keyboards and Digital's LK250\n        Session manager client integrated into the server\n        suspend session feature to run DOS commands\n        Font Compiler for Adobe Bitmap Distribution files\n        KEYSYM compiler to customize the keyboard for default KEYCODE to KEYSYM\n                mappings; over 70 pre-defined keyboard mapping files\n        Configuration utility to define hardware environment and user\n                preferences\n        supports DECnet and TCP\/IP.  Available from DEC.\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\n\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\nPC-XView\n========\nVendor:\n        Network Computing Devices Inc.\n        PC-Xdivision\n        9590 SW Gemini Drive\n        Beaverton, OR  97005\n        TEL: (800)800-9599, (503)641-2200\n        FAX: (503)643-8642\n\n        There are also 15 NCD technical and sales offices around the United\n                States and other international offices\nPrice:\n        PC-Xview for DOS      $445.00 for 1  $1780.00 for 5\n        Annual Maintenance    $150.00 for 1   $450.00 for 5\n        Update                $125.00 for 1   $375.00 for 5\nLatest Version:\n        PC-Xview for DOS     Version 4.0\nCPU:\n        286, 386 (386 recommended)\nMemory:\n        1 Mbyte (2 Mbytes recommended)\nOperating System:\n        DOS 3.2 or higher\nMouse:\n\nGraphics:\n        CGA, EGA, VGA, SVGA, XGA, TIGA\n        8514\/A Video Standard supported with extended memory\n        Japanese Graphics Mode\n        high resolution graphics boards:  Compac, Dell, HP, NEC,\n                Spectragraphics Squeegee, and over 50 other DGIS-based\nEthernet Card:\n        over 35 Ethernet communications boards supported\nNetwork Software Needed:\n        TCP\/IP\n        DECnet\nDisk Space:\n        5 Mbytes (7 Mbytes recommended)\nFeatures:\n        UNIX application support for traditional applications and\n                window managers such as Motif and OPEN LOOK\n        off-loads the graphics processing of UNIX hosts\n        hot-key to DOS\n        access to local peripherals and DOS utilities\n        easy and well-documented installation procedures\n        pop-up control panel\n        Motif compliant Local Window Manager\n        ability to run in Windows PIF window\n        hot-key between X and DOS (no longer have to exit) a TSR\n        DPMI compatibility\n        enhanced protocol tracing\n        Support XRemote protocol\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\n\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\nPC X-Windows\n============\nVendor:\n        Intelligent Decisions Inc.\n        536 Weddell Dr. Suite 2C\n        Sunnyvale, CA 94089\n        TEL: (408)734-3730\n        FAX: (408)734-3634\nPrice:\n        $295\nLatest Version:\n\nCPU:\n        286, 386, 486\nMemory:\n        1 Mbyte (more recommended for hi-res or lots of pixmaps)\nOperating System:\n        DOS 3.1 of higher\nMouse:\n        MS compatible mouse\nGraphics:\n        VGA, some SVGA\nEthernet Card:\n\nNetwork Software:\n        FTP Software's PC\/TCP\n        Wollongong's WIN\/TCP\nDisk Space:\n        4 Mbytes on hard disk\nFeatures:\n        Port of MIT X11R4 server\n        Shape extension\n        MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE\n        XDMCP\n        font compiler\n        fonts supplied\n        Motif, Open Look, DECWindows (VMS and Ultrix) demonstrated to work with\n                this server at InterOp last year.\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\n\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\nPC Xsight\n=========\nVendor:\n        PC XSight\n        Locus Computing Corporation\n        9800 La Cienega Blvd.\n        Inglewood, CA 90301\n        TEL: (800)955-6287\n        CA: (213)670-6500\n        UK: +44 296 89911\nPrice:\n\nLatest Version:\n\nCPU:\n        8088, 8086, 286, 386\nMemory:\n        640 Kbytes base memory with 512 Kbytes available\n        896 Kbytes extended memory\nOperating System:\n        MS\/PC DOS 3.1 or later\nMouse:\n        2 or 3 button mouse and driver (3 button mouse recommend)\nGraphics:\n        EGA, VGA, Hercules, or AT&T 6300\nEthernet Card:\n        Excelan EXOS 205 or 205T\n        3COM 3C501\n        Western Digital WD8003E\n        Micom NI5210\n        Acer Multitech 5220\nNetwork Software:\n\nDisk Space:\n        5-1\/4-inch high-density or 3-1\/2-inch diskette drive\n        1 Mbyte\nFeatures:\n\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\n\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\nSAGE 1280 Adapter and X Windows Display Server\n==============================================\nVendor:\n        Sigma Designs, Inc.\n        46501 Landing Parkway\n        Fremont, CA 94538\n        TEL: (415)770-0100\n        FAX: (415)770-0110\n        TELEX: 17124\nPrice:\n\nLatest Version:\n\nCPU:\n        286, 386, 486\nMemory:\n\nOperating System:\n        DOS 3.0 or higher or UNIX System V\/386\nMouse:\n\nGraphics:\n        high end multiscanning or fixed frequency 64 kHz monitors\nEthernet Card:\n\nNetwork Software:\n\nDisk Space:\n\nFeatures:\n        menu-driven installation and configuration program\n        1280x1024 resolution\n        TIGA-340, 8514\/A AI Emulation\n        CGA, MDA, Hercules, VGA pass-through emulation modes\n        256 colors displayable simultaneously from a palette of 16.7 million\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\n\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\nTeemTalk-X\n==========\nVendor:\n        Pericom\n        TEL: +44 (0908) 560022\nPrice:\n\nLatest Version:\n\nCPU:\n\nMemory:\n\nOperating System:\n\nMouse:\n\nGraphics:\n\nEthernet Card:\n\nNetwork Software:\n\nDisk Space:\n\nFeatures:\n        for IBM clones allows toggling between X and DOS\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\n\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\nVista-eXceed\n============\nVendor:\n        Control Data Corporation\n        Vista Distributing Computing\n        9315 Largo Drive West\n        Suite 250\n        Landover, MD 20785\n        TEL: (301)808-4270\nPrice:\n        Vista-eXceed\n        Vista-eXceed Plus\n        Vista-eXceed Plus\/8514A\nLatest Version:\n\nCPU:\n        286, 386, 486\nMemory:\n        640 Kbytes to 1 Mbyte for DOS server\n        1.64 Mbytes for Vista-eXceed Plus and Vista-eXceed Plus\/8514A\nOperating System:\n        MS-DOS or PC-DOS 3.0 or higher\nMouse:\n        2 or 3 button MS compatible mouse\nGraphics:\n        EGA, VGA, or SVGA\n        color or analog monochrome monitor\nEthernet Card:\n        any supported by TCP\/IP transports listed below\nNetwork Software:\n        PC\/TCP Network Software for DOS by FTP Software Inc.\n        PC-NFS by Sun Microsystems, Inc.\n        WIN\/TCP for DOS by The Wallongong Group, Inc.\n        Pathway Access for DOS by The Wallongong Group, Inc.\n        LAN WorkPlace TCP\/IP Transport System by Novell\/Excelan\n        3+Open TCP by 3COM Corporation\n        HP ARPA Services by Hewlett Packard Corporation\n        Net-One TCP BNS\/PC by Ungermann-Bass, Inc.\n        BWNFS or Telnet Package by Beame & Whiteside Software Ltd.\nDisk Space:\n        hard disk\nFeatures:\n        can may up to 16 Mbytes available for client processing\n        emulates a 3-button mouse with a 2-button mouse\n        full interactive support for X font names and alias' schemes\n        locally modify keyboard mapping\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\n\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\nX Appeal\n========\nVendor:\n        Giovanni Novelli\n        Xtreme s.a.s. - Livorno, Italy\n        FAX: +39-586-502310\n        xappeal@xtreme.sublink.org (before 1-1-93)\n        xappeal@xtreme.it          (after  1-1-93)\nPrice:\n        $350    with quantity discounts:\n                23% off for 20 copies\n                39% off for 50 copies\n                51% off for 100 copies\n        additional 30% discount for educational institutions\n        demo copies available through anonymous ftp at garbo.uwasa.fi:\n                pc\/demo\/xap13exe.zip    (README and executables)\n                pc\/demo\/xap10fon.zip    (local server fonts)\n                pc\/connect\/drivers.zip  (packet drivers)\nLatest Version:\n        1.3\nCPU:\n        386SX or higher\nMemory:\n        2 Mbytes (4 Mbytes recommended)\nOperating System:\n        MS-DOS 3.30 or later\nMouse:\n        any pointing device with MS Mouse compatible driver\nGraphics:\n        most SVGA boards in 256 color mode\n        Ahead (V5000B)\n        ATI (18800)\n        Chips & Technologies (82C452)\n        Genoa (6400)\n        NCR (77C22E)\n        Oak Technologies (OTI-067)\n        Paradise (WD90C00)\n        Trident (8900, 8900C)\n        Tseng Labs (ET3000, ET4000)\n        Western Digital (WD90C00)\nEthernet Card:\n        any model compatible with packet drivers\nNetwork Software:\n        TCP\/IP included\nDisk Space:\n        at least 2 Mbytes\nFeatures:\n        full X11R5 Server implementation, including PEX and font server support\n        screen painting exceeds 6000 Xstones in 1024x768 resolution (256 colors)\n                on a 386\/33 without 387\n        support for all color classes (StaticGray, GrayScale, StaticColor,\n                PseudoColor, TrueColor and DirectColor)\n        run-time resolution switch and panning on a virtual screen\n        emulates a 3-button mouse with a 2-button mouse\n        fast cursor tracking\n        full support for European keyboard layouts\n        no memory limitation through use of virtual memory\n        32 bit protected mode DOS-extended application\n        built-in TCP\/IP support, using the packet driver for the Ethernet\n                board (free packet driver collection included)\n        interactive configuration utility\n        X Display Manager Control Protocol support (for hosts running xdm)\n        X-Authorization (MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1)\n        shape Extension for non-rectangular windows\n        font compiler and RGB database utilities\n        X11 fonts provided, including fonts for Sun Open Windows and DECWindows\n        UNIX application support for traditional applications and\n                window managers such as Motif and OPEN LOOK\n        built-in rcp\/rsh server, to allow file transfers and the execution\n                of useful DOS functions without leaving the X environment\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\n\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\nXinet X-Station\n===============\nVendor:\n        Xinetron\n        CA\n        TEL: (408)727-5509\nPrice:\n\nLatest Version:\n\nCPU:\n        286, 386\nMemory:\n\nOperating System:\n\nMouse:\n\nGraphics:\n\nEthernet Card:\n\nNetwork Software:\n\nDisk Space:\n\nFeatures:\n        up to 8 clients\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\n\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\nXnth\n====\nVendor:\n        Jerry Norman\n        Nth Graphics, Ltd.\n        TEL: (800)624-7552\n        this X server project has been abandoned\nPrice:\n\nCPU:\n        286, 386\nMemory:\n\nOperating System:\n        DOS 3.3 or higher\nMouse:\n\nGraphics:\n\nEthernet Card:\n\nNetwork Software:\n        TCP\/IP\nDisk Space:\n\nFeatures:\n        supports 1280X1024 or 1024X768 resolution monitors at 256 colors (out\n        of 16M) with hardware acceleration for graphics and text\n        operations\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\n\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\nXoftWare for DOS\n================\nVendor:\n        AGE Logic, Inc.\n        9985 Pacific Heights Blvd.\n        San Diego, CA 92121\n        TEL: (619)455-8600, (619)565-7373\n        FAX: (619)597-6030\n        email: sales@age.com\n\n        Bert Shure\n        TEL: (619)455-8600(ext.104)\n        email: bert@age.com, age!bert@ucsd.edu\nPrice:\n        $395.00\n        with TCP\/IP $495.00\nLatest Version:\n\nCPU:\n        286, 386, 486\nMemory:\n        2 Mbytes extended\nOperating System:\n        DOS 3.1 or higher\nMouse:\n        2 or 3 button mouse with MS compatible driver\nGraphics:\n        EGA, VGA, SVGA or 8514\nEthernet Card:\n        compatible with network software\nNetwork Software:\n        3Com 3+ Open TCP(1.2 of higher)\n        DEC Pathworks TCP\/IP (1.1 of higher)\n        ftp PC\/TCP (2.05 of higher)\n        Novell LAN WorkPlace (4.01 of higher)\n        Sun PC\/NFS (3.5 or higher)\n        Wollongong Pathway Access (2.05 or higher)\nDisk Space:\n        2 Mbytes\n        5-1\/4 1.2 Mbyte or 3-1\/2 1.44 Mbyte floppy needed\nFeatures:\n        MIT compliant with AGE extensions\n        Hotkeys to DOS and MS Windows\n        Passive, telnet, rsh, rexec, or XDMCP startup modes\n        Motif, OpenLook, and DECWindows support\n        Virtual screen Support\n        International keyboard support\n        Full font library in SNF format\n        BDF to SNF font compiler\n        Complete documentation\n        Support and update service\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\n\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\nXoftWare for TIGA\/DOS\n=====================\nVendor:\n        AGE Logic, Inc.\n        9985 Pacific Heights Blvd.\n        San Diego, CA 92121\n        TEL: (619)455-8600, (619)565-7373\n        FAX: (619)597-6030\n        email: sales@age.com\n\n        Bert Shure\n        TEL: (619)455-8600(ext.104)\n        email: bert@age.com, age!bert@ucsd.edu\nPrice:\n        $495.00\n        with TCP\/IP $595.00\nLatest Version:\n\nCPU:\n        286, 386, 486\nMemory:\n        512 Kbytes\nOperating System:\n        DOS 3.0 or higher\nMouse:\n        2 or 3 button mouse with MS compatible driver\nGraphics:\n        Texas Instruments TMS340-based graphics accelerator with TIGA 2.0 or\n                higher whith 1Mbyte DRAM\nEthernet Card:\n        compatible with network software\nNetwork Software:\n        3Com 3+ Open TCP(1.2 of higher)\n        DEC Pathworks TCP\/IP (1.1 of higher)\n        ftp PC\/TCP (2.05 of higher)\n        Novell LAN WorkPlace (4.01 of higher)\n        Sun PC\/NFS (3.5 or higher)\n        Wollongong Pathway Access (2.05 or higher)\nDisk Space:\n        2 Mbytes\n        5-1\/4 1.2 Mbyte or 3-1\/2 1.44 Mbyte floppy needed\nFeatures:\n        MIT compliant with AGE extensions\n        Hotkeys to DOS and MS Windows\n        Passive, telnet, rsh, rexec, or XDMCP startup modes\n        Motif, OpenLook, and DECWindows support\n        Virtual screen Support\n        International keyboard support\n        Full font library in SNF format\n        BDF to SNF font compiler\n        Complete documentation\n        Support and update service\n        Optimized for TIGA graphics accelerators\n===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS==DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===DOS===\n\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\nDESQview\/X\n==========\nVendor:\n        Melinda\n        Quarterdeck Office Systems, Inc.\n        150 Pico Boulevard\n        Santa Monica, CA 90405\n        TEL: (310)392-9851\n        FAX: (310)399-3802\nPrice:\n        $275\nLatest Version:\n        1.0\nCPU:\n        386SX or higher (286 version available)\nMemory:\n        4 Mbytes recommended\nOperating System:\n        PC or MS DOS 3.0 or higher\n        DR DOS 6 or higher\nMouse:\n        MS compatible pointing device\nGraphics:\n        EGA\n        VGA\n        Super VGA\n        8514\/A\n        256-color DGIS\n        ATI 18800\/28800(800x600)\n        C&T 82c452(720x540)\n        C&T 82c453(1024x768)\n        Tseng ET3000(800x600)\n        Tseng ET4000(1024x768)\n        Genoa 6400(800x600)\n        WD PVGA1a(640x480)\n        WD90C00(640x480)\n        WD90C11(800x600)\n        some revisions of Headland VEGA(800x800) and Headland V7VGA(1024x768)\nEthernet Card:\n\nNetwork Software:\n\nDisk Space:\n        40 Mbyte hard drive\nFeatures:\n        incorporates X into the DESQview multi-tasking DOS environment\n        adds a graphical 3D look and feel to DESQview\n        gives users a choice of window managers (look and feels)\n        provides a growth path from character mode DOS to industry standard\n                graphical user interfaces\n        runs most regular DOS applications\n        runs DOS Extended applications up to 4Gbytes\n        can display DOS applications within graphical windows\n        multitasks DOS applications and X Clients either locally or remotely\n        provides a simple port of applications from other X systems to\n                DESQview\/X and vice versa\n        gives developers a choice of application appearances, based on toolkit\n                chosen\n        supports toolkits that provide features required by developers such as\n                push buttons, scrollbars, pop up dialogue boxes, etc.\n        can run DOS text and MS Windows graphics programs locally and remotely\n        Adobe Type Manager for scalable fonts and scalable DOS windows\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\n\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\neXcursion for Windows\n=====================\nVendor:\n        Digital Equipment Corporation\n        Maynard, Massachusetts\nPrice:\n\nLatest Version:\n        1.0\nCPU:\n        286, 386, 486\nMemory:\n        2 Mbytes\nOperating System:\n        DOS\n        MS Windows 3.0 or later\nMouse:\n        MS Windows supported mouse\nGraphics:\n        MS Windows supported card\nEthernet Card:\n        \nNetwork Software:\n        Decnet with PATHWORKS for DOS\n        TCP\/IP with PATHWORKS for DOS (TCP\/IP)\n        TCP\/IP with PC\/TCP from FTP Software, Inc.\n        TCP\/IP with 3Com TCP with Demand Protocol Architecture\nDisk Space:\n        7-15 Mbytes hard desk\n        3.5-720 Kbyte or 5.25-1.2 Mbyte floppy drive\nFeatures:\n        Seperate application windows for each X applicatioon displayed by the X\n                server \n        EXcursion Setup utility for installing eXcursion under MS Windows\n        Control Panes provides an easy way to start X applications and\n                customize environment\n        Online Help\n        Ability to cut and paste text or graphics between X and MS Windows\n        Ability to compile new fonts\n        Ability to redefine keys on the keyboard\n        Personal password security access to eXcursion\n        Three button mouse emulation\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\n\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\neXodus for MS Windows\n=====================\nVendor:\n        White Pine Software, Inc.\n        40 Simon Street, Suite 201\n        Nashua, HN 03060-3043\n        TEL: (603)886-9050\n        FAX: (603)886-9051\n        email: sdarling@wpine.com\n        AppleLink: WHITEPINE\nPrice:\n        $449\nLatest Version:\n\nCPU:\n        286, 386, 486\nMemory:\n        2 Mbytes (4 Mbytes recommended)\nOperating System:\n        DOS\n        MS Windows 3.0 or higher\nMouse:\n        recommended\nGraphics:\n        EGA, VGA, SVGA, DGIS\nEthernet Card:\n        most cards\nNetwork Software:\n\nDisk Space:\n\nFeatures:\n        X11R4\n        color and monochrome X screen support including 24bit TrueColor\n        backing store and save under options\n        full XDMCP support\n        access control support\n        online help\n        3 button mouse emulation\n        text and graphics transfers between MS Windows and Macintosh clipboards\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\n\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\nHCL-eXceed\/W\n============\nVendor:\n        Hummingbird Communications Ltd.\n        2900 John Street, Unit 4\n        Markham, Ontario, Canada L3R 5G3\n        TEL: (416)470-1203\n        FAX: (416)470-1207\nPrice:\n        $595    1 copy\n        $536    2-4 copies\n        $476    5-9 copies\n        $417    10 or more copies\nLatest Version:\n\nCPU:\n        286, 386, 486\nMemory:\n        2 Mbytes or more recommended\nOperating System:\n        DOS\n        MS Windows version 3 (Standard and 386 Enhanced Modes)\nMouse:\n        MS compatible pointing device\nGraphics:\n        EGA, VGA, or VGA+\nEthernet Card:\n        any compatible with the networking product you choose\nNetwork Software:\n\nDisk Space:\n\nFeatures:\n        makes full use of 8514 and other high resolution graphics cards\n        redesigned for MS Windows (not an implementation of MIT X)\n        copy & paste between X-Windows and MS Windows\n        interactive configuration utility\n        full interactive support for font naming & alias schemes\n        font compiler\n        log file of host-generated messages\n        Backing Store and Save Unders\n        virtual screen support\n        seven start-up methods\n        full support for European keyboards\n        font, host access & RGB databases loading\n        X protocol trace & dissassembly functionality\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\n\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\nMicro X-WIN\n===========\nVendor:\n        StarNet Communications\n        3073 Lawrence Expressway\n        Santa Clara, CA 95051\n        TEL: (408)739-0881\n        FAX: (408)739-0936\n        micro-x@starnet.com\nPrices:\n        Micro X-WIN $425.00 1 unit\n                    $300.00 ea. 5-pack (greater discount for larger quantities)\n        upgrades at 25% of original price\n        educational discount of 10%\nLatest Version:\n        2.2.1 for X11 Release 5\nCPU:\n        386, 486\nMemory:\n        4 Mbytes\nOperating System:\n        MS-DOS 3.1 or higher\n        MS Windows 3.1 or higher\nMouse:\n        2 or 3 button with MS compatible driver\nGraphics:\n        MS Windows supported cards\nEthernet Card:\n        3Com\/3C501\/503\/505\/523\n        3Com EtherLink\/MC\n        Cabletron 1-2-3000\n        Micom-Interlan NI5010-5210\n        Western Digital WD80003E\n        Novell NE-1000\/2000\n        National Semiconductor\n        boards that have their own packet driver from manufacturer\nNetwork Software Included:\n        Lanera TCPOpen (WinSock compatible)\nNetwork Software Supported:\n        FTP Software - PC\/TCP\n        Lanera - TCPOpen\n        Sun - PC-NFS\n        WinSock compatible TCP\/IP stacks\nDisk Space:\n        5 Mbytes\n        5-1\/4 1.2 Mbyte or 3-1\/2 1.44 Mbyte needed\nFeatures:\n        X11R5\n        Integrated rsh\/rexec with displayed results\n        Auto start-up with XDMCP or rsh\/rexec\n        Easy additional session start-up\n        Panning\n        Supports Motif, OPEN LOOK, and DECWindows\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\n\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\nMultiView\/X\n===========\nVendor:\n        JSB Computer Systems Ltd.\n        Cheshire House, Castle Street, Macclesfield\n        Cheshire, England, SK11 6AF\n        TEL: 0625 433618\n\n        JSB Corporation\n        108 Whispering Pines Drive, Suite 115\n        Scotts Valley, California 95066\n        TEL: (408)438-8300, (800)359-3408\n        FAX: (408)438-8360\nPrice:\n\nLatest Version:\n\nCPU:\n\nMemory:\n\nOperating System:\n        DOS\n        MS Windows\nMouse:\n\nGraphics:\n\nEthernet Card:\n\nNetwork Software:\n        RS 232 direct connections, RS 232 modem connections, Atlantix Axcess,\n        Beame & Whiteside TCP\/IP, D-Link TCP\/IP for DOS, FTP PC\/TCP,\n        HP ARPA Services for DOS, IBM AIX Access for DOS users,\n        ICL Oslan (int 5b), Locus PCI, Locus TCP\/IP for DOS,\n        MS LAN Manager for UNIX, MS LAN Manager for UNIX V2.1, NCR Token Ring,\n        Novell LAN WorkPlace for DOS, SCO Xenix-Net, Sun PC-NFS,\n        Ungermann-Bass Net\/One, Ungermann-BassNet\/One NETCI (int6b),\n        Wollongong PathWay Access DOS, Wollongong WIN\/TCP for DOS,\n        3 Com 3+Open TCP\nDisk Space:\n\nFeatures:\n        provides a Character Server for character applications\n        emulation for DEC VT100, DEC VT220, DEC VT241, SCO UNIX\/Xenix Console,\n                X\/Open ANSI, INTERACTIVE UNIX Console, AT&T UNIX Console\n        automatically invokes the X server when an X client is selected\n        passive, telnet, rsh, rexec, and XDMCP startup modes supported\n        full X11R4 font library provided in standard Windows format\n        BDF to Windows compiler\n        copy and paste of text available\n        single iconic desktop\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\n\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\nPC-XView\n========\nVendor:\n        Network Computing Devices Inc.\n        PC-Xdivision\n        9590 SW Gemini Drive\n        Beaverton, OR  97005\n        TEL: (800)800-9599, (503)641-2200\n        FAX: (503)643-8642\n\n        There are also 15 NCD technical and sales offices around the United\n                States and other international offices\nPrice:\n        PC-Xview for Windows  $445.00 for 1  $1780.00 for 5\n        Annual Maintenance    $150.00 for 1   $450.00 for 5\n        Update                $125.00 for 1   $375.00 for 5\nLatest Version:\n        3.1\nCPU:\n        286, 386 (386 recommended)\nMemory:\n        2 Mbytes (4 Mbytes recommended)\nOperating System:\n        MS-DOS or PC-DOS 3.0 or higher\n        MS Windows 3.0\/3.1 or Windows NT\nMouse:\n        recommended but not needed\nGraphics:\n        any compatible with MS Windows\nEthernet Card:\n\nNetwork Software Needed:\n        TCP\/IP\n        DECnet\nDisk Space:\n        7 Mbytes (10 Mbytes recommended)\nFeatures:\n        runs MS Windows applications alongside X clients\n        cut and paste between X clients and MS Windows\n                applications using the Windows clipboard\n        full support of X11R4 features, including the Shape extension\n        off-loads graphics processing from host computers\n        runs in both standard and enhanced modes of MS Windows\n        manages X clients with a standard remote window manager or\n                with MS Windows\n        full X11 fonts provided, including fonts for Sun Open Windows\n                and DECWindows\n        Windows-based compiler that converts Bitmap Description Format\n                BDF fonts to MS Windows format(FON) fonts\n        Windows-based file transfer program\n        prints files from a remote host on your local printer\n        built-in client starter\n        Windows-based installation and configuration\n        DDL support for network interfaces\n        easy installation procedures\n        X Display Manager Control Protocol(XDMCP) support\n        support for multiple TCP\/IP network packages\n        comprehensive and well organized User's guide\n        Graphics Cut & Paste\n        Virtual Screen support\n        support the XRemote protocol (developed by NCD)\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\n\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\nVista-eXceed\n============\nVendor:\n        Control Data Corporation\n        Vista Distributing Computing\n        9315 Largo Drive West\n        Suite 250\n        Landover, MD 20785\n        TEL: (301)808-4270\nPrice:\n        Vista-eXceed\/W\nLatest Version:\n\nCPU:\n        286, 386, 486\nMemory:\n        2 Mbytes for MS Windows server\nOperating System:\n        DOS 3.0 or higher\n        MS Windows 3.0\nMouse:\n        2 or 3 button MS compatible mouse\n        MS Windows supported mouse\nGraphics:\n        EGA, VGA, or SVGA\n        any supported by MS Windows\nEthernet Card:\n        any supported by TCP\/IP transports listed below\nNetwork Software:\n        PC\/TCP Network Software for DOS by FTP Software Inc.\n        PC-NFS by Sun Microsystems, Inc.\n        WIN\/TCP for DOS by The Wallongong Group, Inc.\n        Pathway Access for DOS by The Wallongong Group, Inc.\n        LAN WorkPlace TCP\/IP Transport System by Novell\/Excelan\n        3+Open TCP by 3COM Corporation\n        HP ARPA Services by Hewlett Packard Corporation\n        Net-One TCP BNS\/PC by Ungermann-Bass, Inc.\n        BWNFS or Telnet Package by Beame & Whiteside Software Ltd.\nDisk Space:\n        hard disk\nFeatures:\n        can may up to 16 Mbytes available for client processing\n        emulates a 3-button mouse with a 2-button mouse\n        full interactive support for X font names and alias' schemes\n        locally modify keyboard mapping\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\n\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\nX11\/AT\n======\nVendor:\n        Intergrated Inference Machines, Inc.\n        Computer Products Division\n        1468 East Katella Avenue\n        Anaheim, CA 92805-9806\n        TEL: (714)978-6201 and (714)978-6776\n        FAX: (714)939-0746\nPrice:\n\nLatest Version:\n\nCPU:\n        286, 386, 486\nMemory:\n        640 Kbytes base memory\n        2 Mbytes extended memory\nOperating System:\n        MS-DOS 3.1 or later\n        MS Windows 3.0 or later\nMouse:\n\nGraphics:\n        any graphics card and that supports MS Windows - EGA or VGA resolution,\n                or better, are recommended\n        CGA (Color Graphics Adapter)\n        COMPAQ Portable III or Portable 386 plasma display\n        EGA with high-resolution color display\n        EGA whith low-resolution color display\n        Hercules with high-resolution monochrome display\n        IBM 8514\/A display\n        Olivetti monochrome or PVC display\n        Olivetti OEC display\n        WYSE high resolution monochrome\n        Moniterm Viking monochrome\n        VGA (Video Graphics Array)\nEthernet Card:\n        also compatible with Excelan, 3COM, Ungermann Bass, Western Digital,\n        Tiara, IIM's X\/PAC, and others\nNetwork Software:\n           Either Excelan's TCP\/IP Driver Set or FTP Inc. PC\/TCP Driver Set\n                   (not included with X11\/AT)\nDisk Space:\n        at least 2.5 Mbytes of storage capacity available for X11\/AT software,\n        excluding optional X fonts; to use all X fonts supplied with X11\/AT,\n        a total of 5.5 Mbytes is required\nFeatures:\n        Concurrent MS-DOS & X Windows operation\n        Concurrent X Windows & Telnet operation\n        Cut & Paste utility, FTP utility\n        Font compiler for user-developed fonts\n        Telnet and FTP utilities included\n        compatible with the following FTP software programs, when not operated\n                under MS Windows:\n                ftp, the file transfer protocol client\n                ftpsev, the file transfer protocol server\n                interdrive, the network file system (NFS)\n                ping, a network test\n                tnvt, the telnet virtual terminal client\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\n\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\nX-One\n=====\nVendor:\n        Grafpoint\n        1485 Saratoga Avenue\n        San Jose, CA 95129\n        TEL: (800)426-2230 7:30-5:00 PST, (408)466-1919\n        FAX: (408)446-0666\n        uunet!grafpnt!sales\nPrice:\n        (free demo copies)\nLatest Version:\n\nCPU:\n        386, 486\nMemory:\n        2 Mbytes\nOperating System:\n        DOS 3.1 or higher\n        MS Windows\nMouse:\n        2 or 3 button mouse\nGraphics:\n        VGA\n        Super VGA\n        8514A\n        TIGA\n        VGA boards with S3 chip set\nEthernet Card:\n\nNetwork Software:\n        Grafpoint's TCP\/IP included\nDisk Space:\n\nFeatures:\n        X11R4\n        on-screen setup\n        builtin TCP\/IP\n        supports local clients such as telnet\/vt100 window, a setup window,\n                an rsh window, a local window manager\n        DOS and Windows versions in one product\n        hot key to DOS\n        90 days of telephone technical support\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\n\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\nXVision\n=======\nVendor:\n        VisionWare Limited            White Pine is re-badging XVision as\n        57 Cardigan Lane                      eXodus for Windows\n        Leeds LS4 2LE                         40 Simon Street, Suite 201\n        United Kingdom                        Nashua, HN 03060-3043\n        TEL: (0532) 788858                    TEL: (603)886-9050\n                +44 532 788858                FAX: (603)886-9051\n        FAX: (0532) 304676                    sdarling@wpine.com\n                +44 532 304676                AppleLink: WHITEPINE\n        vware@visionware.co.uk        \nPrice:\n          $449.00  1 users         $9100.00 30 users\n         $1800.00  5 users        $11850.00 40 users\n         $3600.00 10 users        $14600.00 50 users\n         $6350.00 20 users        educational discounts available\n        adding a user where at least 10 are installed - $275.00\n        XRemote support per PC:  bundled - $95.00        upgrade - $150.00\n        full documentation - $60.00        evaluation copy - $60.00\nLatest Version:\n        4.1\nCPU:\n        286, 386, 486\nMemory:\n        2 Mbytes (4 Mbytes recommended)\nOperating System:\n        DOS 3.0 or later\n        MS Windows 3.0 or later\nMouse:\n        recommended but not required\nGraphics:\n        MS Windows compatible graphics\nEthernet Card:\n\nNetwork Software:\n        FTP PC\/TCP\n        Excelan LAN Workplace for DOS\n        Locus TCP\/IP for DOS\n        Ungermann Bass NET\/ONE TCP-PC\n        Wollongong WIN\/TCP for DOS\n        Beame & Whiteside TCP\/IP\n        Sun PC-NFS\n        HP LAN Manager (ARPA Services for DOS)\n        3Com 3+ Open\nDisk Space:\n        5-1\/4-inch high-density or 3-1\/2-inch high-density\nFeatures:\n        copy and paste between X and MS Windows\n        use a host window manager or allow MS Windows to control X clients\n        support for all color classes (StaticGray, GrayScale, StaticColor,\n                PseudoColor, TrueColor and DirectColor)\n        several user options for performance enhancement\n        X11 Release 5 server\n        fonts and server extensions including XDMCP\n        ICCCM compliant\n        X clients may also use MS Windows fonts\n        easy configuration of the system via dialog boxes\n        provides the functionality of a three-button mouse\n        support for all international keyboards supported by Windows\n        host access control\n        network-aware setup and on-line help\n        iconic control panel for configuring XVision\n        Dynamic Server Optimizations (XVision runs tests on the PC at install\n                time to see how best to draw to the display)\n        support for:  NCD XRemote, DECnet, SHAPE extension, 24-bit color,\n                MS Windows font managers, all color classes, rsh, rexec\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\n\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\nXoftWare\n========\nVendor:\n        AGE Logic, Inc.\n        9985 Pacific Heights Blvd.\n        San Diego, CA 92121\n        TEL: (619)455-8600, (619)565-7373\n        FAX: (619)597-6030\n        email: sales@age.com\n\n        Bert Shure\n        TEL: (619)455-8600(ext.104)\n        email: bert@age.com, age!bert@ucsd.edu\nPrice:\n        $495.00\n        with TCP\/IP  $595.00\nLatest Version:\n\nCPU:\n        386, 486\nMemory:\n        2 Mbytes extended\nOperating System:\n        DOS 3.1 or higher\n        Windows 3.0 or higher\nMouse:\n        MS Windows compatible mouse\nGraphics:\n        card with MS Windows driver\nEthernet Card:\n\nNetwork Software:\n        Beame & Whiteside TCP\/IP (2.2 or higher)\n        ftp PC\/TCP (2.05 of higher)\n        DEC Pathworks (4.0 or higher)\n        HP ARPA Services (2.1 or higher)\n        Novell LAN WorkPlace (4.01 or higher)\n        Sun PC\/NFS (3.5 or higher)\n        Ungermann-Bass Net\/One TCP (16.5 or higher)\n        Wollongong Pathway Access (4.1.1 or higher)\n        Wollongong WIN\/TCP (1.1 or higher)\n        3Com 3+ Open TCP (1.2 or higher)\nDisk Space:\n        2 Mbytes\n        5-1\/4 1.2 Mbyte or 3-1\/2 1.44 Mbyte floppy needed\nFeatures:\n        MIT compliant with AGE extensions\n        Context Sensitive on-line help system\n        Cut and paste between X and MS Windows\n        Start X applications with MS Windows icons\n        Single and multiple window modes\n        MS Window manager used with X applications\n        Virtual screen up to 32,767 by 32,767\n        Passive, telnet, rsh, rexec, and XDMCP startup modes\n        Backing store and save unders\n        Motif, OpenLook, and DECWindows support\n        Full font library in FON format\n        BDF to MS Windows FON font compiler\n        Log file optionally saves system messages\n        Tutorial on the X Window System\n===Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows==Microsoft-Windows===\n\n==OS\/2==OS\/2==OS\/2==OS\/2==OS\/2==OS\/2==OS\/2==OS\/2==OS\/2==OS\/2==OS\/2==OS\/2==OS\/2==\nIBM X-Windows for OS\/2\n======================\nVendor:\n        IBM Solutions Center\n        Voice: 1-800-IBM-CALL\n        FAX:   1-303-440-1639\nPrice:\n        $150 plus $200 for IBM TCP\/IP for OS\/2 (required)\nLatest Version:\n        Version 1.2.1\n        Part Number 02G6980 (X-Windows)\n                    02G6968 (TCP\/IP)\nCPU:\n        386SX or higher\nMemory:\n        6 Mbytes recommended (4 minimum)\nOperating System:\n        IBM OS\/2 2.0 or higher\nMouse:\n        OS\/2 compatible pointing device\nGraphics:\n        EGA, VGA, Super VGA, 8514\/A, XGA, or other OS\/2 supported card\nEthernet Card:\n        compatible with OS\/2 (NDIS)\nNetwork Software:\n        IBM TCP\/IP (required)\nDisk Space:\n        80 Mbyte hard drive\nFeatures:\n        incorporates X into the OS\/2 advanced PC operating system\n        provides full X11R4 server, X font library, X font compiler,\n                X client utilities\n        runs as another object on the WorkPlace Shell (WPS) desktop\n        cut and paste between OS\/2, DOS, and Windows applications running under\n                OS\/2 full TCP\/IP implementation including ftp, telnet, lamail,\n                ping, finger, SLIP, rsh, remote printing, BOOTP, VT100\/220, and\n                many more\n        other modules available, including NFS, Programmer's Toolkit (includes\n              Kerberos, RPC, DPI, NCS, ftp API, sockets API, Resolver API),\n              and more\n==OS\/2==OS\/2==OS\/2==OS\/2==OS\/2==OS\/2==OS\/2==OS\/2==OS\/2==OS\/2==OS\/2==OS\/2==OS\/2==\n\n=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh\neXodus\n======\nVendor:\n        White Pine Software, Inc.\n        40 Simon Street, Suite 201\n        Nashua, HN 03060-3043\n        TEL: (603)886-9050\n        FAX: (603)886-9051\n        email: sdarling@wpine.com\n        AppleLink: WHITEPINE\nPrice:\n        $295\nLatest Version:\n        3.0\nCPU:\n        all Macintosh computers\n        eXodus II runs on Macintosh computers with a 68020 or 68030 processor\n                and a floating point co-processor\nMemory:\n        2 Mbytes\nOperating System:\n        version 6.0 or later\n        version 6.0.3 or later if you plan to use Communications Toolbox for\n                network connections\nMouse:\n\nGraphics:\n\nEthernet Card:\n\nNetwork Software:\n        TCP\/IP - MacTCP by Apple Computer, Inc. (part of CommSolutions)\n        TCP\/IP - TCPort\/LAN Workplace by Novell, Inc. (formerly TCPort\/Host\n                Access)\n        DECnet - TSSnet by Thursby Software Systems, Inc. (a special version\n                is distributed as part of CommSolutions)\n        DECnet - CommUnity-Mac distributed by Everex, Inc.\n        DECnet - DECnet for Macintosh (part of PATHWORKS by Digital Equipment\n                Corporation)\n        ADSP - PATHWORKS distributed by Digital Equipment Corporation\n        AppleTalk\nDisk Space:\n\nFeatures:\n        supports MultiFinder\n        under A\/UX, clients and server run on the Macintosh\n        under Macintosh Operating System, clients run on another computer\n        conforms to the Macintosh Human Interface Guidelines\n        user standard Macintosh pull-down menus\n        functions as a Macintosh program under the Macintosh Operating System\n        handles Macintosh events\n        can use normal Macintosh environment\n=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh\n\n=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh\nMacX\n====\nVendor:\n        Apple Computer, Inc.\n        Cupertino, CA 95014\n        TEL: (408)996-1010\n        TLX: 171-576\n        or any Apple dealer (BusinessLand,MicroAGE, etc.)\nPrice:\n        MacX                        Order No. M0108LL\/C   ??\n        MacX Manual Set             Order No. M0602LL\/B   ??\n        MacX 1.1.7 Update Product   Order No. M1197LL\/A   ??\n        Mac X and X11 Site License  Order No. M0749LL\/C   ??\nLatest Version:\n        1.2\nCPU:\n        any Macintosh\nMemory:\n        2 Mbytes\nOperating System:\n        system software 6.0.5 or later\nMouse:\n\nGraphics:\n        1-bit and 8-bit graphics\nEthernet Card:\n\nNetwork Software:\n        LocalTalk, Ethernet\nDisk Space:\n        at least two floppy disks for 6.0.5 or later\n        3.5 Mbytes hard disk tor 7.0\nFeatures:\n        X11 release 4 server\n        ICCCM-compatible cut and paste of text AND graphics between the\n                Macintosh and X11\n        SHAPE extension (including SHAPED windows on the Macintosh desktop)\n        optional built-in ICCCM-compliant window manager\n        built-in BDF font compiler\n        built-in standard colormaps\n        built-in window managers\n        support for system software version 7.0\n        support for multiple monitors\n        copy and paste text and graphics\n=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh=Macintosh\n\n=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga==\nUNKNOWN\n========\nVendor:\n\nPrice:\n\nLatest Version:\n\nCPU:\n\nMemory:\n\nOperating System:\n\nMouse:\n\nGraphics:\n\nEthernet Card:\n\nNetwork Software:\n\nDisk Space:\n\nFeatures:\n        Amiga 3000 machines offer an X server and OPEN LOOK tools and libraries\n                on a full SVR4 implementation\n=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga==\n\n=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga==\nX Window System Version 11 Release for the Amiga Computer\n=========================================================\nVendor:\n        GfxBase, Inc.\n        Dale Luck\n        1881 Ellwell Drive\n        Milpitas, CA 95035\n        TEL: (408)262-1469\n        FAX: (408)262-8276\n        Usenet: boing!dale\n        Bix: duck\n        amiga!boing!dale@bloom-beacon.mit.edu\nPrice:\n     $395.00 ($90.00 yearly maintenance fee)\nLatest Version:\n        4.1\nCPU:\n        AmigaDos computer:\n                A1000\n                A2000\n                A2500\n                A3000\n                A3000T\n                A4000\n                A500\n                A600\nMemory:\n        1 Mbyte for Server and 640x400 2-color display\n        more RAM required for local clients\nOperating System:\n        AmigaDOS Operating System V1.3 or later\nMouse:\n        Amiga 2 button mouse, or optical 3 button mouse, tablet, trackball,\n                or International keyboard\nGraphics:\n        NTSC to 1440x482(60hz), PAL(1440x568 50 hz)\n        Overscan, genlock and interlace supported\n        A2024\/Viking 1 1024x8000(60hz), 1024x1024(50hz)\n        Super Screens to 2560x2560 scrollable on smaller display\n        Productivity screen - 640x480 60hz noninterlaced (640x960 interlaces)\n        Two colors out of a palette of 4096 can be selected.  Cursor has two\n                separately controlled colors\n        Color server: 2,4,8,16,32 colors from 4096.  A2024\/Viking 1 - 4 gray\n                scales.  Some resolutions restricted\n        GDA1 640x480, 800x600, 1024x800 noninterlaced 256\/16M\n        Ameristar 1600GX 1280x1024, 1600x1280 noninterlaced 256\/16M\nEthernet Card:\n        Commodore A2065\nNetwork Software:\n        Commodore TCP\/IP or Syndesis DECnet for ethernet and serial\n                connections, SANA for local\nDisk Space:\n        7-14 Mbytes\nFeatures:\n        contains X11R4 clients, fonts, etc.\n        Amiga Xpr uses the standard Amiga printer device technology which\n                supports more that 50 different types of printers.  Black and\n                White of Color\n        Xamiga R4 monochrome and color servers\n        optional programmer's toolkit includes the header files, libraries,\n                and sample programs\n        Optional mwm window manager\n        Optional toolkits\/widgets Motif, XView, HP\n=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga=Amiga==\n\n=Atari=Atari=Atari=Atari=Atari=Atari=Atari=Atari=Atari=Atari=Atari=Atari=Atari==\nX\/TOS\/window\/server and X\/TOS\/window\/server\/color\n=================================================\nVendor:\n        X\/software Michael Gehret\n        X\/TOS division\n        Marktstrasse 8\n        W-8944 Groenenbach\n        Germany\n        TEL: +49 8334 1411\n        FAX: +49 8334 6245\n        email: xtosinfo@xsoft.uucp\nPrice:\n        X\/TOS\/window\/server (for all TOS computers)         DM 1,098.00\n        X\/TOS\/window\/server\/color (for all TOS computers)   DM 1,498.00\n        option 030 (for 68030 or 68040 processors only)     DM    98.00\n        X\/TOS\/window\/server\/color option 030 and option PEX T.B.A.\n        overseas order handling                             DM   100.00\n        none-EC European order handling                     DM    50.00\nLatest Version:\n        502.*\nCPU:\n        Atari Mega ST, STE, TT\n        68000 to 68040\nMemory:\n        2 Mbytes (4 Mbytes recommended)\nOperating System:\n        TOS 1.4 or higher\nMouse:\n        Atari mouse\nGraphics:\n        X\/TOS\/window\/server:\n                monochrome 640x400x1,\n                monochrome 1280x960x1 (TT, SM194)\n        X\/TOS\/window\/server\/color:\n                monochrome 640x400x1,\n                monochrome 1280x960x1 (TT, SM194)\n                color 320x200x4\n                color 640x200x2\n                color 640x480x4\n                color 320x480x8\nEthernet Card:\n        Atari Card (Mega or VME bus)\n        Riebl\/Wacker (Mega or VME bus)\n--------------------------------- End Enclosure -----------------------------\n____________________________________________________________________________","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Archive-name: graphics\/resources-list\/part1\nLast-modified: 1993\/04\/27\n\n\nComputer Graphics Resource Listing : WEEKLY POSTING [ PART 1\/3 ]\n===================================================\nLast Change : 27 April 1993\n\nMany FAQs, including this Listing, are available on the archive site\npit-manager.mit.edu (alias rtfm.mit.edu) [18.172.1.27] in the directory\npub\/usenet\/news.answers.  The name under which a FAQ is archived appears\nin the Archive-name line at the top of the article.\nThis FAQ is archived as graphics\/resources-list\/part[1-3]\n\nThere's a mail server on that machine. You send a e-mail message to\nmail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu  containing the keyword \"help\" (without\nquotes!) in the message body.\n\nYou can see in many other places for this Listing. See the item:\n\n0. Places to find the Resource Listing\n\nfor more information.\n\nItems Changed:\n--------------\n\nRE-ARRANGED the subjects, in order to fir better in the 63K\/article limit.\nI PLAN ON CHANGING HEADERS SOON, SO BE CAREFUL! ONLY THE \"Resource Listing\"\nkeys are sure to remain in the Subject: line!\n\n3. Computer graphics FTP site list, by Eric Haines\n4. Mail servers and graphics-oriented BBSes\n9. Plotting packages\n\n[ I'm thinking of making this post bi-weekly. What do you think??? ]\n\n--------------\n\nLines which got changed, have the `#' character in front of them.\nAdded lines are prepended with a `+'\nRemoved lines are just removed. Use 'diff' to locate these changes.\n\n========================================================================\n\nThis text is (C)Copyright 1992, 1993 of Nikolaos C. Fotis. You can copy\nfreely this file, provided you keep this copyright notice intact.\n\nCompiled by Nikolaos (Nick) C. Fotis, e-mail: nfotis@theseas.ntua.gr\n\nPlease contact me for updates,corrections, etc.\n\nDisclaimer: I do not guarantee the accuracy of this document.\nUse it at your own risk.\n\n========================================================================\n\nThis is mainly a guide for computer graphics software.\nI would suggest reading the Comp. Graphics FAQ for image analysis stuff.\n\nIt's entitled: \n (date) comp.graphics Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)\n\n John T. Grieggs <grieggs@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov> is the poster of the\n official comp.graphics FAQ\n\nI have included my comments within braces '[' and ']'.\n\nNikolaos Fotis\n\n========================================================================\n\nContents of the Resource Listing\n================================\n\nPART1:\n------\n0. Places to find the Resource Listing\n1. ARCHIE\n2. Notes\n3. Computer graphics FTP site list, by Eric Haines\n4. Mail servers and graphics-oriented BBSes\n5. Ray-tracing\/graphics-related mailing lists.\n6.  3D graphics editors\n   a. Public domain, free and shareware systems\n   b. Commercial systems\n7. Scene description languages\n8. Solids description formats\n\nPART2:\n------\n\n9. Plotting packages\n10. Image analysis software - Image processing and display\n\nPART3:\n------\n11. Scene generators\/geographical data\/Maps\/Data files\n12. 3D scanners - Digitized 3D Data.\n13. Background imagery\/textures\/datafiles\n14. Introduction to rendering algorithms\n   a. Ray tracing\n   b. Z-buffer (depth-buffer)\n   c. Others\n15. Where can I find the geometric data for the:\n   a. Teapot ?\n   b. Space Shuttle ?\n16. Image annotation software\n17. Scientific visualization stuff\n18. Molecular visualization stuff\n19. GIS (Geographical Information Systems software)\n\nFuture additions:\n[Please send me updates\/info!]\n\n========================================================================\n\n0. Places to find the Resource Listing\n======================================\n\nThis file is crossposted to comp.graphics, comp.answers and news.answers,\nso if you can't locate it in comp.graphics, you're advised to search in\ncomp.answers or news.answers\n(The latter groups usually are archived in your site. Contact your sysadmin\nfor more info).\n\nThese 3 articles are posted to comp.graphics 3-4 times a month and are kept in\nmany places (see below)\n\n--\n\nMany FAQs, including this one, are available on the archive site\npit-manager.mit.edu (alias rtfm.mit.edu) [18.172.1.27] in the directory\npub\/usenet\/news.answers.  The name under which a FAQ is archived appears\nin the Archive-name line at the top of the article.\nThis FAQ is archived as graphics\/resources-list\/part[1-3]\n\nThere's a mail server on that machine. You send a e-mail message to\nmail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu  containing: help in the Subject: field\n\n--\n\nThe inria-graphlib mail server mirrors this posting (see under the\nSubject 4: Mail servers )\n\n--\n\nThe Resource Listing is accesible through WAIS in the machine\nenuxva.eas.asu.edu (port 8000) under the name graphics-resources-list.\nIt's got a digest-type line before every numbered item for purposes of\nindexing.\n\n--\n\nAnother place that monitors the Listing is the MaasInfo files.\nFor more info contact Robert E. Maas <rem@btr.com>\n\n--\n\nYet another place to search for FAQs in general is the SWITCH\n(Swiss Academic and Research Network) system in Switzerland:\n\ninteractive:\n  telnet nic.switch.ch [130.59.1.40], login as \"info\". Move to the\n  info_service\/Usenet\/periodic-postings directory. Search in the\n  00index file by typing \"\/\" and the word to look for.\n  You may then just read the FAQ in the \"faqs\" directory, or decide\n  to fetch it by one of the following methods.\n\nftp:\n  login to nic.switch.ch [130.59.1.40] as user anonymous and\n  enter your internet-style address after being prompted for a\n  password.\n\n\tcd info_service\/Usenet\/periodic-postings\n\nmail:\n  send e-mail to\n\nRFC-822:\n   archive-server@nic.switch.ch\nX.400:\n  \/S=archive-server\/OU=nic\/O=switch\/PRMD=switch\/ADMD=arcom\/C=ch\/\n\nEnter 'help' in the bodypart to receive instructions. No information\nis required in the subject header line.\n\n\n1. ARCHIE\n=========\n\nThe Archie is a service system to locate FTP places for\nrequested files. It's appreciated that you will use Archie\nbefore asking help in the newsgroups.\n\nArchie servers:\n  archie.au or 139.130.4.6             (Aussie\/NZ)\n  archie.funet.fi or 128.214.6.100  (Finland\/Eur.)\n  archie.th-darmstadt.de or 130.83.128.111  (GER.)\n  cs.huji.ac.il or 132.65.6.5             (Israel)\n  archie.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp or 130.54.20.1 (JAPAN)\n  archie.sogang.ac.kr or 163.239.1.11      (Korea)\n  archie.ncu.edu.tw or telnet 140.115.19.24  (TWN)\n  archie.doc.ic.ac.uk or 146.169.3.7  (UK\/Ireland)\n  archie.sura.net or 128.167.254.179    (USA [MD])\n  archie.unl.edu (password: archie1)    (USA [NE])\n  archie.ans.net or 147.225.1.2         (USA [NY])\n  archie.rutgers.edu or 128.6.18.15     (USA [NJ])\n  archie.nz or 130.195.9.4           (New Zealand)\n\nConnect to Archie server with telnet and type \"archie\" as username.\nTo get help type 'help'.\nYou can get 'xarchie' or 'archie', which are clients that call Archie\nwithout the burden of a telnet session.\n'Xarchie' is on the X11.R5 contrib tape, and 'archie' on comp.sources.misc,\nvol. 27.\n\nTo get information on how to use Archie via e-mail, send mail with\nsubject \"help\" to \"archie\" account at any of above sites.\n\n(Note to Janet\/PSS users -- the United Kingdom archie site is\naccessible on the Janet host doc.ic.ac.uk [000005102000].\nConnect to it and specify \"archie\" as the host name and \"archie\" as\nthe username.)\n\n==========================================================================\n\n2. Notes\n========\n(Excerpted from the FAQ article)\n\nPlease do *not* post or mail messages saying \"I can't FTP, could\nsomeone mail this to me?\"  There are a number of automated mail servers\nthat will send you things like this in response to a message.\n\nThere are a number of sites that archive the Usenet sources newsgroups\nand make them available via an email query system.  You send a message\nto an automated server saying something like \"send comp.sources.unix\/fbm\",\nand a few hours or days later you get the file in the mail.\n\n==========================================================================\n\n3. Computer graphics FTP site list, by Eric Haines\n==================================================\n\nComputer graphics related FTP sites (and maintainers), 22\/04\/93\n\tcompiled by Eric Haines, erich@eye.com\n\tand Nick Fotis, nfotis@theseas.ntua.gr\n\nRay-tracers:\n------------\n\nRayShade - a great ray tracer for workstations on up, also for PC, Mac & Amiga.\nPoV - son and successor to DKB trace, written by Compuservers.\n\t(For more questions call Drew Wells --\n\t73767.1244@compuserve.com or Dave Buck -- david_buck@carleton.ca)\nART - ray tracer with a good range of surface types, part of VORT package.\nDKBtrace - another good ray tracer, from all reports; PCs, Mac II,\n\tAmiga, UNIX, VMS (last two with X11 previewer), etc.\nRTrace - Portugese ray tracer, does bicubic patches, CSG, 3D text, etc. etc.\n\tAn MS-DOS version for use with DJGPP DOS extender (GO32) exists also,\n\tas a Mac port.\nVIVID2 - A shareware raytracer for PCs - binary only (286\/287).  Author:\n\tStephen Coy (coy@ssc-vax.boeing.com).  The 386\/387 (no source) version\n\tis available to registered users (US$50) direct from the author.\nRAY4 - Steve Hollasch's 4-dimensional ray tracer - renders hyperspheres,\n\thypertetrahedra, hyperplanes, and hyperparallelepipeds (there's\n\ta separate real-time wireframe viewer written in GL called WIRE4 ) .\nMTV,QRT,DBW - yet more ray tracers, some with interesting features.\n\nDistributed\/Parallel Raytracers:\n--------------------------------\n\nXDART - A distributed ray-tracer that runs under X11. There are server binaries\n\twhich work only on DECstations, SPARCs, HP Snakes (7x0 series) and NeXT.\n\tThe clients are distributed as binaries and C source.\nInetray - A network version of Rayshade 4.0.  Needs Sun RPC 4.0 or newer.\n\tContact Andreas Thurnherr (ant@ips.id.ethz.ch)\nprt, VM_pRAY - parallel ray tracers.\n\nVolume renderers:\n-----------------\n\nVREND - Cornell's Volume Renderer, from Kartch\/Devine\/Caffey\/Warren (FORTRAN).\n\nRadiosity (and diffuse lighting) renderers:\n-------------------------------------------\n\nRadiance - a ray tracer w\/radiosity effects, by Greg Ward.  Excellent shading\n\tmodels and physically based lighting simulation.  Unix\/X based, though\n\thas been ported to the Amiga and the PC (386).\nINDIA - An Indian radiosity package based on Radiance.\nSGI_RAD - An interactive radiosity package that runs on SGI machines with a\n\tSpaceball. It includes a house database.\n\tAuthor: Guy Moreillon <moreillo@ligsg1.epfl.ch>\nRAD - a simple public-domain radiosity package in C. The solution can be run\n\tstand-alone on any Unix box, but the walk-through requires a SGI 4D.\n\tAuthor: Bernard Kwok <g-kwok@cs.yorku.ca>\n\nRenderers which are not raytracers, and graphics libraries:\n-----------------------------------------------------------\n\nSIPP - Scan line z-buffer and Phong shading renderer.\n\tNow uses the shadow buffer algorithm.\nTcl-SIPP - a Tcl command interface to the SIPP rendering\n\tprogram. Tcl-SIPP is a set of Tcl commands used to programmed\n\tSIPP without having to write and compile C code.\n\tCommands are used to specify surfaces, objects,\n\tscenes and rendering options.\n\tIt renders either in PPM format or in Utah Raster Toolkit RLE format\n\tor to the photo widget in the Tk-based X11 applications.\n\nVOGLE - graphics learning environment (device portable).\nVOGL - an SGI GL-like library based on VOGLE.\nREND386 - A *fast* polygon renderer for Intel 386s and up. Version 2 on up.\n\t[ It's not photorealistic, but rather a real-time renderer]\nXSHARP21 - Dr. Dobb's Journal PC renderer source code, with budget texture\n\tmapping.\n\nModellers, wireframe viewers:\n-----------------------------\n\nVISION-3D - Mac modeler, can output Radiance & Rayshade files.\nIRIT - A CSG solid modeler, with support for freeform surfaces.\nX3D - A wireframe viewer for X11.\n3DV - 3-D wireframe graphics toolkit, with C source, 3dv objects, other stuff\n\tLook at major PC archives like wuarchive. One such file is 3DKIT1.ZIP\nPV3D - a shareware front end modeler for POVRAY, still in beta test.\n  French docs for now, price for registering 250 French Francs. Save disabled.\n  Some extra utilities, DXF files for the registered version.\n\nGeometric viewers:\n------------------\n\nSALEM - A GL-based package from Dobkin et al. for exploring mathematical\n\tstructures.\nGEOMVIEW - A GL-based package for looking and interactively manipulating\n3D objects, from Geometry Center at Minnesota.\nXYZ GeoBench -(eXperimental geometrY Zurich) is a workbench for geometric\n\tcomputation for Macintosh computers.\nWIRE4 - GL wireframe previewer for Steve Hollasch's RAY4 (see above)\n\nData Formats and Data Sets for Ray Tracing:\n-------------------------------------------\n\nSPD - a set of procedural databases for testing ray tracers.\nNFF - simplistic file format used by SPD.\nOFF - another file format.\nP3D - a lispy file format.\nTDDD - Imagine (3D modeler) format, has converters for RayShade, NFF, OFF, etc.\n\tAlso includes a nice postscript object displayer.  Some GREAT models.\nTTDDDLIB - converts to\/from TDDD\/TTDDD, OFF, NFF, Rayshade 4.0, Imagine,\n\tand vort 3d objects. Also outputs Framemaker MIF files and isometric\n\tviews in Postscript. Registered users get a TeX PK font converter and\n\ta superquadric surfaces generator.\n\tGlenn Lewis <glewis@pcocd2.intel.com>\n\t[Note : TTDDDLIB is also known as T3DLIB]\nCHVRTD - Chapel Hill Volume Rendering Test Datasets, includes volume sets for\n\ttwo heads, a brain, a knee, electron density maps for RNA and others.\n\nWritten Material on Rendering:\n------------------------------\n\nRT News - collections of articles on ray tracing.\nRT bib - references to articles on ray tracing in \"refer\" format.\nRad bib - references to articles on radiosity (global illumination).\nSpeer RT bib - Rick Speer's cross-referenced RT bib, in postscript.\nRT abstracts - collection by Tom Wilson of abstracts of many RT articles.\nPaper bank project - various technical papers in electronic form.  Contact\n\tJuhana Kouhia <jk87377@cs.tut.fi>\nOnline Bibliography Project :\n        The ACM SIGGRAPH Online Bibliography Project is a database of \n        over 15,000 unique computer graphics and computational geometry\n        references in BibTeX format, available to the computer graphics\n        community as a research and educational resource.\n\n        The database is located at \"siggraph.org\".  Users may download \n        the BibTeX files via FTP and peruse them offline, or telnet to\n        \"siggraph.org\" and log in as \"biblio\" and interactively search\n        the database for entries of interest, by keyword.\n        For the people without Internet access, there's also an e-mail\n        server. Send mail to\n\n        archive-server@siggraph.org\n\n        and in the subject or the body of the message include the message  send\n        followed by the topic and subtopic you wish. A good place to start is\n        with the command\n             send index\n        which will give you an up-to-date list of available information.\n\n        Additions\/corrections\/suggestions may be directed to the admin,\n        \"bibadmin@siggraph.org\".\n\nImage Manipulation Libraries:\n-----------------------------\n\nUtah Raster Toolkit - nice image manipulation tools.\nPBMPLUS - a great package for image conversion and manipulation.\nLIBTIFF - library for reading\/writing TIFF images.\nImageMagick - X11 package for display and interactive manipulation\n\tof images.  Uses its own format (MIFF), and includes some converters.\nxv - X-based image display, manipulation, and format converter.\nxloadimage, xli - displays various formats on an X11 screen.\nKhoros - a huge, excellent system for image processing, with a visual\n\tprogramming interface and much much more.  Uses X windows.\nFBM - another set of image manipulation tools, somewhat old now.\nImg - image manipulation, displays on X11 screen, a bit old now.\nxflick - Plays .FLI animation under X11\nXAnim - plays any resolution FLI along with GIF's(including GIF89a animation\n\textensions), DL's and Amiga IFF animations(3,5,J,l) and IFF\n\tpictures(including HAM,EHB and color cycling)\nSDSC - SDSC Image Tools package (San Diego Supercomputing Center)\n\tfor image manipulation and conversion\nCLRpaint - A 24-bit paint program for SGI 24bit workstations and 8bit Indigos.\n\nLibraries with code for graphics:\n---------------------------------\n\nGraphics Gems I,II,III - code from the ever so useful books.\nspline-patch.tar.Z - spline patch ray intersection routines by Sean Graves\nkaleido - Computation and 3D Display of Uniform Polyhedra. Mirrored in\n\twuarchive. This package computes (and displays) the metrical\n\tproperties of 75 polyhedra. Author: Dr. Zvi Har'El,\n\te-mail: rl@gauss.technion.ac.il\n\n(*) means site is an \"official\" distributor, so is most up to date.\n\n\nNORTH AMERICA (please look for things on your own continent first...):\n-------------\n\nwuarchive.wustl.edu [128.252.135.4]:  \/graphics\/graphics - get CONTENTS file\n\tfor a roadmap.  \/graphics\/graphics\/objects\/TDDD - *the TTDDD objects\n\tand converters*, \/mirrors\/unix-c\/graphics - Rayshade ray tracer, MTV\n\tray tracer, Vort ray tracer, FBM, PBMPLUS, popi, Utah raster toolkit.\n\t\/mirrors\/msdos\/graphics - DKB ray tracer, FLI RayTracker demos.\n\t\/pub\/rad.tar.Z - *SGI_RAD*, \/graphics\/graphics\/radiosity - Radiance\n\tand Indian radiosity package.  \/msdos\/ddjmag\/ddj9209.zip - version 21\n\tof Xsharp, with fast texture mapping.  There's lots more, including\n\tbibs, Graphics Gems I & II code, OFF, RTN, Radiance, NFF, SIPP, spline\n\tpatch intersection routines, textbook errata, source code from Roy\n\tHall's book \"Illumination and Color in Computer Generated Imagery\", etc\n\tgraphics\/graphics\/packages\/kaleido - *kaleido*\n\tGeorge Kyriazis <kyriazis@turing.cs.rpi.edu>\n\nprinceton.edu [128.112.128.1]:  \/pub\/Graphics (note capital \"G\") - *Rayshade\n\t4.0 ray tracer (and separate 387 executable)*, *color quantization\n\tcode*, *SPD*, *RT News*, *Wilson's RT abstracts*, \"RT bib*, *Utah\n\tRaster Toolkit*, newer FBM, *Graphics Gems I, II & III code*.\n\t\/pub\/graphics directory - *SALEM* and other stuff.\n\tCraig Kolb <cek@princeton.edu>\n\t[replaces weedeater.math.yale.edu - note the capital \"G\" in\n\tpub\/Graphics] Because there's a trouble with princeton's incoming\n\tarea, you can upload Rayshade-specific stuff to\n\tweedeater.math.yale.edu [128.36.23.17]\n\nalfred.ccs.carleton.ca [134.117.1.1]:  \/pub\/dkbtrace - *DKB ray tracer*,\n\t\/pub\/pov-ray\/POV-Ray1.0 - *PVRay Compuserve group ray tracer (or PoV)*.\n\tDavid Buck <david_buck@carleton.ca>\n\navalon.chinalake.navy.mil [129.131.31.11]:  3D objects (multiple formats),\n\tutilities, file format documents.\n\tThis site was created to be a 3D object \"repository\" for the net.\n\tFrancisco X DeJesus <dejesus@archimedes.chinalake.navy.mil>\n\nomicron.cs.unc.edu [152.2.128.159]:  pub\/softlab\/CHVRTD - Chapel Hill\n\tVolume Rendering Test Datasets.\n\nftp.mv.com [192.80.84.1]: - Official DDJ FTP repository.\n\t*XSHARP*\n\npeipa.essex.ac.uk [155.245.115.161]: the Pilot European Image Processing\n\tArchive; in a directory ipa\/synth or something like that, there are\n\timage synthesis packages.\n\tAdrian Clarke <alien@essex.ac.uk>\n\nbarkley.berkeley.edu [128.32.142.237] : tcl\/extensions\/tsipp3.0b.tar.Z -\n\t*Tcl-SIPP*\n\tMark Diekhans <markd@grizzly.com or markd@NeoSoft.com>\n\nacs.cps.msu.edu [35.8.56.90]: pub\/sass - *X window fonts converter into\n\tRayshade 3.0 polygons*, Rayshade animation tool(s).\n\tRon Sass <sass@cps.msu.edu>\n\nhobbes.lbl.gov [128.3.12.38]: *Radiance* ray trace\/radiosity package.\n\tGreg Ward <gjward@lbl.gov>\n\ngeom.umn.edu [128.101.25.31] : pub\/geomview - *GEOMVIEW*\n\tContact (for GEOMVIEW): software@geom.umn.edu\n\nftp.arc.umn.edu [137.66.130.11] : pub\/gvl.tar.Z - the latest version of Bob,\n\tIcol and Raz.  Source, a manual, man pages, and binaries for\n\tIRIX 4.0.5 are included (Bob is a real time volume renderer)\n\tpub\/  contains also many volume datasets.\n\tKen Chin-Purcell <ken@ahpcrc.umn.edu>\n\nftp.kpc.com [144.52.120.9] : \/pub\/graphics\/holl91 - Steve Hollasch's\n\tThesis, \/pub\/graphics\/ray4 - *RAY4*, \/pub\/graphics\/wire4 - *WIRE4*.\n\t\/pub\/mirror\/avalon - mirror of avalon's 3D objects repository.\n\tSteve Hollasch <hollasch@kpc.com>\n\nswedishchef.lerc.nasa.gov [139.88.54.33] : programs\/hollasch-4d - RAY4,\n\tSGI Explorer modules and Postscript manual, etc.\n\nzamenhof.cs.rice.edu [128.42.1.75] : pub\/graphics.formats - Various electronic\n\tdocuments about many object and image formats.\n\tMark Hall <foo@cs.rice.edu>\n\twill apparently no longer be maintaining it, see ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu.\n\nrascal.ics.utexas.edu [128.83.144.1]:  \/misc\/mac\/inqueue - VISION-3D facet\n\tbased modeller, can output RayShade and Radiance files.\n\nftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.20.50] :  misc\/file.formats\/graphics.formats -\n\tcontains various image- and object-format descriptions.  Many SciVi\n\ttools in various directories, e.g.  SGI\/Alpha-shape\/Alvis-1.0.tar.Z -\n\t3D alpha-shape visualizer (SGI machines only),\n\tSGI\/Polyview3.0\/polyview.Z - interactive visualization and analysis of\n\t3D geometrical structures.\n\tQuincey Koziol <koziol@ncsa.uiuc.edu>\n\ntucana.noao.edu [140.252.1.1] : \/iraf - the IRAF astronomy package\n\nftp.ipl.rpi.edu [128.113.14.50]:  sigma\/erich - SPD images and Haines thesis\n\timages.  pub\/images - various 24 and 8 bit image stills and sequences.\n\tKevin Martin <sigma@ipl.rpi.edu>\n\nftp.psc.edu [128.182.66.148]:  pub\/p3d - p3d_2_0.tar P3D lispy scene\n\tlanguage & renderers.  Joel Welling <welling@seurat.psc.edu>\n\nftp.ee.lbl.gov [128.3.254.68]: *pbmplus.tar.Z*, RayShade data files.\n\tJef Poskanzer <jef@ace.ee.lbl.gov>\n\ngeorge.lbl.gov [128.3.196.93]: pub\/ccs-lib\/ccs.tar.Z - *CCS (Complex\n\tConversion System), a standard software interface for image processing*\n\nhanauma.stanford.edu [36.51.0.16]: \/pub\/graphics\/Comp.graphics - best of\n\tcomp.graphics (very extensive), ray-tracers - DBW, MTV, QRT, and more.\n\tJoe Dellinger <joe@hanauma.stanford.edu>\n\nftp.uu.net [192.48.96.2]:  \/graphics - *IRIT*, RT News back issues (not\n\tcomplete), NURBS models, other graphics related material.\n\t\/graphics\/jpeg\/jpegsrc.v?.tar.Z - Independent JPEG Group package for\n\treading and writing JPEG files.\n\nfreebie.engin.umich.edu [141.212.68.23]:  *Utah Raster Toolkit*,\n\tSpencer Thomas <thomas@eecs.umich.edu>\n\nexport.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.0.12] : \/contrib - pbmplus, Image Magick, xloadimage,\n\txli, xv, Img, lots more.  \/pub\/R5untarred\/mit\/demos\/gpc - NCGA Graphics\n\tPerformance Characterization (GPC) Suite.\n\nlife.pawl.rpi.edu [128.113.10.2]: \/pub\/ray - *Kyriazis stochastic Ray Tracer*.\n\tGeorge Kyriazis <kyriazis@turing.cs.rpi.edu>\n\ncs.utah.edu [128.110.4.21]: \/pub - Utah raster toolkit, *NURBS databases*.\n\tJamie Painter <jamie@cs.utah.edu>\n\ngatekeeper.dec.com [16.1.0.2]:  \/pub\/DEC\/off.tar.Z - *OFF models*,\n\tAlso GPC Benchmark files (planned, but not checked).\n\tRandi Rost <rost@kpc.com>\n\nhubcap.clemson.edu [130.127.8.1]:  \/pub\/amiga\/incoming\/imagine - stuff for the\n\tAmiga Imagine & Turbo Silver ray tracers.  \/pub\/amiga\/TTDDDLIB -\n\t*TTDDDLIB* \/pub\/amiga\/incoming\/imagine\/objects - MANY objects.\n\tGlenn Lewis <glewis@pcocd2.intel.com>\n\npprg.eece.unm.edu [129.24.24.10]:  \/pub\/khoros - *Khoros image processing\n\tpackage (huge, but great)*.\n\tDanielle Argiro <danielle@bullwinkle.unm.edu>\n\nexpo.lcs.mit.edu [18.30.0.212]:  contrib - *PBMPLUS portable bitmap package*,\n\t*poskbitmaptars bitmap collection*, *Raveling Img*, xloadimage.  Jef\n\tPoskanzer <jef@well.sf.ca.us>\n\nvenera.isi.edu [128.9.0.32]:  *\/pub\/Img.tar.z and img.tar.z - some image\n\tmanipulation*, \/pub\/images - RGB separation photos.\n\tPaul Raveling <raveling@venera.isi.edu>\n\nucsd.edu [128.54.16.1]:  \/graphics - utah rle toolkit, pbmplus, fbm,\n\tdatabases, MTV, DBW and other ray tracers, world map, other stuff.\n\tNot updated much recently.\n\ncastlab.engr.wisc.edu [128.104.52.10]:  \/pub\/x3d.2.2.tar.Z - *X3D*\n\t\/pub\/xdart.1.1.* - *XDART*\n\tMark Spychalla <spy@castlab.engr.wisc.edu>\n\nsgi.com [192.48.153.1]:  \/graphics\/tiff - TIFF 6.0 spec & *LIBTIFF* software\n\tand pics.  Also much SGI- and GL-related stuff (e.g. OpenGL manuals)\n\tSam Leffler <sam@sgi.com>\n\t[supercedes okeeffe.berkeley.edu for the LIBTIFF stuff]\n\nsurya.waterloo.edu [129.97.129.72]: \/graphics - FBM, ray tracers\n\nftp.sdsc.edu [132.249.20.22]: \/sdscpub - *SDSC*\n\nftp.brl.mil [128.63.16.158]: \/brl-cad - information on how to get the\n\tBRL CAD package & ray tracer.  \/images - various test images.\n\tA texture library has also begun here.\n\tLee A. Butler <butler@BRL.MIL>\n\ncicero.cs.umass.edu [128.119.40.189]:  \/texture_temp - 512x512 grayscale\n\tBrodatz textures,\n\tfrom Julien Flack <julien@scs.leeds.ac.uk>.\n\nkarazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.7.6]:  pub\/Graphics\/rtabs.shar.12.90.Z - *Wilson's\n\tRT abstracts*, VM_pRAY.\n\tJ. Eric Townsend <jet@karazm.math.uh.edu or jet@nas.nasa.gov>\n\nftp.pitt.edu [130.49.253.1]:  \/users\/qralston\/images - 24 bit image archive\n\t(small).  James Ralston Crawford <qralston@gl.pitt.edu>\n\nftp.tc.cornell.edu [128.84.201.1]: \/pub\/vis - *VREND*\n\nsunee.waterloo.edu [129.97.50.50]: \/pub\/raytracers - vivid, *REND386*\n\t[or sunee.uwaterloo.ca]\n\narchive.umich.edu [141.211.164.153]: \/msdos\/graphics - PC graphics stuff.\n\t\/msdos\/graphics\/raytrace - VIVID2.\n\napple.apple.com [130.43.2.2?]:  \/pub\/ArchiveVol2\/prt.\n\nresearch.att.com [192.20.225.2]: \/netlib\/graphics - *SPD package*, ~\/polyhedra -\n\t*polyhedra databases*.  (If you don't have FTP, use the netlib\n\tautomatic mail replier:  UUCP - research!netlib, Internet -\n\tnetlib@ornl.gov.  Send one line message \"send index\" for more info,\n\t\"send haines from graphics\" to get the SPD)\n\nsiggraph.org [128.248.245.250]: SIGGRAPH archive site.\n\tpublications - *Online Bibliography Project*, Conference proceedings\n\tin various electronic formats (papers, panels), SIGGRAPH Video Review\n\tinformation and order forms.\n\tOther stuff in various directories.\n\tAutomatic mailer is archive-server@siggraph.org (\"send index\").\n\nftp.cs.unc.edu [128.109.136.159]: pub\/reaction_diffusion - Greg Turk's work on\n\treaction-diffusion textures, X windows code (SIGGRAPH '91)\n\navs.ncsc.org [128.109.178.23]:  ~ftp\/VolVis92 - Volume datasets from the\n\tBoston Workshop on Volume Visualization '92.  This site is also the\n\tInternational AVS Center.\n\tTerry Myerson <tvv@ncsc.org>\n\nuvacs.cs.virginia.edu [128.143.8.100]:  pub\/suit\/demo\/{sparc,dec,etc} - SUIT\n\t(Simple User Interface Toolkit).  \"finger suit@uvacs.cs.virginia.edu\"\n\tto get detailed instructions.\n\nnexus.yorku.ca [130.63.9.66]: \/pub\/reports\/Radiosity_code.tar.Z - *RAD*\n\t\/pub\/reports\/Radiosity_thesis.ps.Z - *RAD MSc. Thesis*\n\t[This site will be changed to ftp.yorku.ca in the near future]\n\nmilton.u.washington.edu [128.95.136.1] - ~ftp\/public\/veos - VEOS Virtual\n\tReality and distributed applications prototyping environment\n\tfor Unix. Veos Software Support : veos-support@hitl.washington.edu\n        oldpublic\/fly - FLY! 3D Visualization Software demo.\n        That package is built for \"fly-throughs\" from various datasets in\n        near real-time. There are binaries for many platforms.\n\tAlso, much other Virtual Reality stuff.\n\nzug.csmil.umich.edu [141.211.184.2]: X-Xpecs 3D files (an LCD glass shutter\n\tfor Amiga computers - great for VR stuff!)\n\nsugrfx.acs.syr.edu [128.230.24.1]: Various stereo-pair images.\n[ Has closed down :-( ]\n\nsunsite.unc.edu [152.2.22.81]: \/pub\/academic\/computer-science\/virtual-reality -\n\tFinal copy of the sugrfx.acs.syr.edu archive that ceased to exist.\n\tIt contains Powerglove code, VR papers, 3D images and IRC research\n\tmaterial.\n\tJonathan Magid <jem@sunSITE.unc.edu>\n\narchive.cis.ohio-state.edu [128.146.8.52]: pub\/siggraph92 - Code for\n\tSiggraph '92 Course 23 (Procedural Modeling and Rendering Techniques)\n\tDr. David S. Ebert <ebert@cis.ohio-state.edu>\n\nlyapunov.ucsd.edu [132.239.86.10]: This machine is considered the\n\trepository for preprints and programs for nonlinear dynamics,\n\tsignal processing, and related subjects  (and fractals, of course!)\n\tMatt Kennel <mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu>\n\ncod.nosc.mil [128.49.16.5]: \/pub\/grid.{ps,tex,ascii} - a short survey of\n\tmethods to interpolate and contour bivariate data\n\nics.uci.edu [128.195.1.1]: \/honig --- Various stereo-pair images,\n\tmovie.c - animates a movie on an X display (8-bit and mono) with\n\tdigital subtraction.\n\ntaurus.cs.nps.navy.mil [131.120.1.13]: pub\/dabro\/cyberware_demo.tar.Z - Human\n\thead data\n\npioneer.unm.edu [129.24.9.217]:  pub\/texture_maps - Hans du Buf's grayscale\n\ttest textures (aerial swatches, Brodatz textures, synthetic swatches).\n\tSpace & planetary image repository.  Provides access to >150 CD-ROMS\n\twith data\/images (3 on-line at a time).\n        pub\/info\/beginner-info - here you should start browsing.\n        Colby Kraybill <opus@pioneer.unm.edu>.\n\ncs.brown.edu [128.148.33.66] : *SRGP\/SPHIGS* . For more info on SRGP\/SPHIGS:\n         mail -s 'software-distribution' graphtext@cs.brown.edu\n\npdb.pdb.bnl.gov [130.199.144.1] has data about various organic molecules,\n       bonds between the different atoms, etc.\n       Atomic coordinates (and a load of other stuff) are contained in the\n       \"*.ent\" files, but the actual atomic dimemsions seem to be missing.\n       You could convert these data to PoV, rayshade, etc.\n\nbiome.bio.ns.ca [142.2.20.2] : \/pub\/art - some Renoir paintings,\n        Escher's pictures, etc.\n\nic16.ee.umanitoba.ca [] : \/specmark - sample set of images from the\n        `Images from the Edge' CD-ROM (images of atomic landscapes, advanced\n        semiconductors, superconductors and experimental surface\n        chemistry among others). Contact ruskin@ee.umanitoba.ca\n\nexplorer.dgp.toronto.edu [128.100.1.129] : pub\/sgi\/clrpaint - *CLRpaint*\n        pub\/sgi\/clrview.* - CLRview, a tool that aids in visualization\n        of GIS datasets in may formats like DXF, DEM, Arc\/Info, etc.\n\names.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.18.3]: pub\/SPACE\/CDROM - images from Magellan\n        and Viking missions etc. Get pub\/SPACE\/Index first.\n        pub\/SPACELINK has most of the SpaceLink service data (see below)\n        e-mail server available: send mail to archive-server@ames.arc.nasa.gov\n        (or ames!archive-server) with subject:\"help\"\n        or \"send SPACE Index\" (without the quotes!)\n        Peter Yee <yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov>\n\npubinfo.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.6.2]: images, other data, etc. from JPL\n        missions. Modem access at (818)-354-1333 (no parity, 8 data bits, 1\n        stop bit).\n        newsdesk@jplpost.jpl.nasa.gov or phone (818)-354-7170\n\nspacelink.msfc.nasa.gov [128.158.13.250] (passwd:guest) : space graphics\n        and GIF images from NASA's planetary probes and the Hubble Telescope.\n        Main function is support for teachers (you can telnet also to this\n        site). Dial up access: (205)-895-0028 (300\/1200\/2400\/9600(V.32) baud,\n        8 bits, no parity, 1 stop bit).\n\nstsci.edu [130.167.1.2] : Hubble Space Telescope stuff (images and other\n        data). Read the README first!\n        Pete Reppert <reppert@stsci.edu> or Chris O'Dea <odea@stsci.edu>\n\npit-manager.mit.edu [18.172.1.27]:  \/pub\/usenet\/news.answers - the land of\n\tFAQs.  graphics and pictures directories of particular interest.\n\t[Also available from mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu by sending a mail\n\tmessage containing: help]\n\nUUCP archive: avatar - RT News back issues.  For details, write Kory Hamzeh\n\t<kory@avatar.avatar.com>\n\n\nEUROPE:\n-------\n\nnic.funet.fi [128.214.6.100]:  *pub\/sci\/papers - *Paper bank project,\n\tincluding Pete Shirley's entire thesis (with pics)*, *Wilson's RT\n\tabstracts*, pub\/misc\/CIA_WorldMap - CIA world data bank,\n\tcomp.graphics.research archive, *India*, and much, much more.\n\tJuhana Kouhia <jk87377@cs.tut.fi>\n\ndasun2.epfl.ch [128.178.62.2]:  Radiance. Good for European sites, but\n\tdoesn't carry the add-ons that are available for Radiance.\n\nisy.liu.se [130.236.1.3]:  pub\/sipp\/sipp-3.0.tar.Z - *SIPP* scan line z-buffer\n\tand Phong shading renderer.  Jonas Yngvesson <jonas-y@isy.liu.se>\n\nirisa.fr [131.254.2.3]:  *\/iPSC2\/VM_pRAY ray tracer*, SPD, \/NFF - many non-SPD\n\tNFF format scenes, RayShade data files.  Didier Badouel\n\t<badouel@irisa.irisa.fr> [may have disappeared]\n\nphoenix.oulu.fi [130.231.240.17]:  *FLI RayTracker animation files (PC VGA) -\n\talso big .FLIs (640*480)* *RayScene demos* [Americans:  check wuarchive\n\tfirst].  More animations to come.  Jari Kahkonen\n\t<hole@phoenix.oulu.fi>\n\njyu.fi [128.214.7.5]: \/pub\/graphics\/ray-traces - many ray tracers, including\n\tVM_pRAY, DBW, DKB, MTV, QRT, RayShade, some RT News, NFF files.  Jari\n\tToivanen <toivanen@jyu.fi>\n\ngarbo.uwasa.fi [128.214.87.1]:  Much PC stuff, etc., \/pc\/source\/contour.f -\n\tFORTRAN program to contour scattered data using linear triangle-based\n\tinterpolation\n\nasterix.inescn.pt [192.35.246.17]:  pub\/RTrace - *RTrace* nffutils.tar.Z (NFF\n\tutilities for RTrace), medical data (CAT, etc.)  converters to NFF,\n\tAutocad to NFF Autolisp code, AUTOCAD 11 to SCN (RTrace's language)\n\tconverter and other goodies.  Antonio Costa (acc@asterix.inescn.pt)\n\nvega.hut.fi [128.214.3.82]: \/graphics - RTN archive, ray tracers (MTV, QRT,\n\tothers), NFF, some models.\n[ It was shut down months ago , check under nic.funet.fi -- nfotis ]\n\nsun4nl.nluug.nl [192.16.202.2]: \/pub\/graphics\/raytrace - DBW.microray, MTV, etc\n\nunix.hensa.ac.uk [] : misc\/unix\/ralcgm\/ralcgm.tar.Z - CGM viewer and\n        converter.\n        There's an e-mail server also - mail to archive@unix.hensa.ac.uk\n        with the message body \"send misc\/unix\/ralcgm\/ralcgm.tar.Z\"\n\nmaeglin.mt.luth.se [130.240.0.25]:  graphics\/raytracing - prt, others, ~\/Doc -\n\t*Wilson's RT abstracts*, Vivid.\n\nftp.fu-berlin.de [130.20.225.2]:  \/pub\/unix\/graphics\/rayshade4.0\/inputs -\n\taq.tar.Z is RayShade aquarium [Americans:  check princeton.edu first).\n\tHeiko Schlichting <heiko@math.fu-berlin.de>\n\nmaggia.ethz.ch [129.132.17.1]: pub\/inetray - *Inetray* and Sun RPC 4.0 code\n\tAndreas Thurnherr <ant@ips.id.ethz.ch>\n\nosgiliath.id.dth.dk [129.142.65.24]:  \/pub\/amiga\/graphics\/Radiance - *Amiga\n\tport of Radiance 2.0*.  Per Bojsen <bojsen@ithil.id.dth.dk>\n\nftp.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de [134.106.1.9] : *PoV raytracer*\n        Mirrored in wuarchive, has many goods for PoV.\n\tpub\/dkbtrace\/incoming\/polyray - Polyray raytracer\n        pub\/dkbtrace\/incoming\/pv3d* - *PV3D*\n\nftp.uni-kl.de [131.246.9.95]: \/pub\/amiga\/raytracing\/imagine - mirror of\n\tthe hubcap Imagine files.\n\nneptune.inf.ethz.ch [129.132.101.33]: XYZ - *XYZ GeoBench*\n\tPeter Schorn <schorn@inf.ethz.ch>\n\niamsun.unibe.ch [130.92.64.10]: \/Graphics\/graphtal* - a L-system interpreter.\n\tChristoph Streit <streit@iam.unibe.ch>\n\namiga.physik.unizh.ch [130.60.80.80]: \/amiga\/gfx - Graphics stuff\n\tfor the Amiga computer.\n\nstesis.hq.eso.org [134.171.8.100]: on-line access to a huge astronomical\n        database. (login:starcat;no passwd)\n        DECnet:STESIS (It's the Space Telescope European Coordination Facility)\n        Benoit Pirenne <bpirenne@eso.org>, phone +49 89 320 06 433\n\n\nMIDDLE EAST\n-----------\n\ngauss.technion.ac.il [132.68.112.60]: *kaleida*\n\n\nAUSTRALIA:\n----------\n\ngondwana.ecr.mu.oz.au [128.250.70.62]: pub - *VORT(ART) ray tracer*, *VOGLE*,\n\tWilson's ray tracing abstracts, \/pub\/contrib\/artscenes (ART scenes from\n\tItaly), pub\/images\/haines - Haines thesis images, Graphics Gems code,\n\tSPD, NFF & OFF databases, NFF and OFF previewers, plus some 8- and\n\t24bit images and lots of other stuff.  pub\/rad.tar.Z - *SGI_RAD*\n\tBernie Kirby <bernie@ecr.mu.oz.au>\n\nmunnari.oz.au [128.250.1.21]:  pub\/graphics\/vort.tar.Z - *VORT (ART) 2.1 CSG and\n\talgebraic surface ray tracer*, *VOGLE*, \/pub - DBW, pbmplus.  \/graphics\n\t- room.tar.Z (ART scenes from Italy).\n\tDavid Hook <dgh@munnari.oz.au>\n\nmarsh.cs.curtin.edu.au [134.7.1.1]: pub\/graphics\/bibliography\/Facial_Animation,\n\tpub\/graphics\/bibliography\/Morph, pub\/graphics\/bibliography\/UI -\n\tstuff about Facial animation, Morphing and User Interfaces.\n\tpub\/fascia - Fred Parke's fascia program.\n\tValerie Hall <val@lillee.cs.curtin.edu.au>\n\n\nOCEANIA - ASIA:\n---------------\n\n#ccu1.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.3.1]:  ftp\/mac\/architec - *VISION-3D facet\n\tbased modeller, can output RayShade files*.  Many other neat things\n#\tfor Macs.  Paul Bourke <pdbourke@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz>\n+[ For users outside NZ - go to wuarchive.wustl.edu, directory\n+  \/mirrors\/architec ]\n\nscslwide.sony.co.jp [133.138.199.1]:  ftp2\/SGI\/Facial-Animation - Steve Franks\n\tsite for facial animation.\n \tSteve Franks <stevef@csl.sony.co.jp OR stevef@cs.umr.edu>\n\n\n4. Mail servers and graphics-oriented BBSes\n===========================================\n\nPlease check first with the FTP places above, with archie's help.\nDon't overuse mail servers.\n\nThere are some troubles with wrong return addresses. Many of these\nmail servers have a command like\n   path a_valid_return_e-mail_address\nto get a hint for sending back to you stuff.\n\nDEC's FTPMAIL\n-------------\n  Send a one-line message to ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com WITHOUT a Subject: field,\n  and having a line containing the word 'help'.\n  You should get back a message detailing the relevant procedures you\n  must follow in order to get the files you want.\n\n  Note that the \"reply\" or \"answer\" command in your mailer will not work\n  for this message or any other mail you receive from FTPMAIL.  To send\n  requests to FTPMAIL, send an original mail message, not a reply.\n  Complaints should be sent to the ftpmail-request@uucp-gw-2.pa.dec.com\n  address rather than to postmaster, since DECWRL's postmaster is not\n  responsible for fixing ftpmail problems.\n\nBITFTP\n------\n  For BITNET sites ONLY, there's BITFTP@PUCC.\n  Send a one-line 'help' message to this address for more info.\n\n\n+RED\n+---\n+  RED - Listserv Redirector is essentially a mail server.\n+  The Server Sites that are available are:\n+\n+  Location        EARN\/BITNET          Internet\n+  --------------  ----------------     -------------------\n+  In Turkey:      TRICKLE@TREARN       TRICKLE@EGE.EDU.TR\n+  In Denmark:     TRICKLE@DKTC11\n+  In Italy:       TRICKLE@IMIPOLI\n+  In Belgium:     TRICKLE@BANUFS11     TRICKLE@UFSIA.AC.BE\n+  In Austria:     TRICKLE@AWIWUW11\n+  In Germany:     TRICKLE@DS0RUS1I     TRICKLE@RUSVM1.RUS.UNI-STUTTGART.DE\n+  In Israel:      TRICKLE@TAUNIVM      TRICKLE@VM.TAU.AC.IL\n+  In Netherlands: TRICKLE@HEARN        TRICKLE@HEARN.NIC.SURFNET.NL\n+  In France:      TRICKLE@FRMOP11      TRICKLE@FRMOP11.CNUSC.FR\n+  In Colombia:    TRICKLE@UNALCOL      TRICKLE@UNALCOL.UNAL.EDU.CO\n+  In Taiwan:      TRICKLE@TWNMOE10     TRICKLE@TWNMOE10.EDU.TW\n+\n+  You are  urged to use the  one that is closer  to your location.\n+  Send a message to one of these containing the body\n+\n+  \/HELP\n+\n+  and you'll get more instructions.\n\n\nLightwave 3D mail based file-server\n-----------------------------------\n  A mail based file server for 3D objects, 24bit JPEG images, GIF images\n  and image maps is now online for all those with Internet mail access.\n  The server is the official archive site for the Lightwave 3D mail-list\n  and contains many PD and Shareware graphics utilities for\n  several computer platforms including Amiga, Atari, IBM and Macintosh.\n\n  The server resides on a BBS called \"The Graphics BBS\".  The BBS is\n  operational 24 hours a day 7 days a week at the phone number of +1\n  908\/469-0049.  It has upgraded its modem to a Hayes Ultra 144\n  V.32bis\/V.42bis, which has speeds from 300bps up to 38,400bps.\n\n  If you would like to submit objects, scenes or images to the server,\n  please pack, uuencode and then mail the files to the address:\n  server@bobsbox.rent.com.\n\n  For information on obtaining files from the server send a mail message\n  to the address file-server@graphics.rent.com with the following in\n  the body of the message:\n    HELP\n    \/DIR\n  And a help file describing how to use the server and a complete\n  directory listing will be sent to you via mail.\n\n[ Now it includes the Cyberware head and shouders in TTDDD format! Check it\n out, only if you can't use FTP! -- nfotis ]\n\nINRIA-GRAPHLIB\n--------------\n  Pierre Jancene and Sabine Coquillart launched the inria-graphlib mail\n  server a few months ago.\n\n    echo help | mail inria-graphlib@inria.fr\n\n  will give you a quick summary of what inria-graphlib contains and \n  how to browse among its files.\n\n    echo send contents | mail inria-graphlib@inria.fr\n\n  will return the extended summary.\n\n  As an other example :\n\n    echo send cgrl from Misc | mail inria-graphlib@inria.fr\n\n  will return the Computer Graphics Resource Listing mirrored from\n  comp.graphics.\n\nBBSes\n-----\n  There are many BBSes that store datafiles, etc.etc., but a guide to these\n  is beyond the scope of this Listing (and the resources of the author!)\n  If you can point to me Internet- or mail- accessible BBSes that carry\n  interesting stuff, send me info!\n\n\n  Studio Amiga is a 3D modelling and ray tracing specific BBS, (817) 467-3658.\n  24 hours, 105 Meg online.\n--\nFrom Jeff Walkup <pwappy@well.sf.ca.us>:\n  \"The Castle\" 415\/355-2396 (14.4K\/v.32bis\/v.42\/v.42bis\/MNP)\n  (In Pacifica, dang close to San Francisco, California, USA)\n  The new-user password is: \"TAO\".\n  \n  [J]oin base #2; The Castle G\/FX, Anim, Video, 3D S.I.G., of which\n  I am the SIG-Op, \"Lazerus\".\n--\n  Bob Lindabury operates a BBS (see above the entry for \"The Graphics BBS\")\n--\n'You Can Call Me Ray' ray tracing related BBS in Chicago suburbs (708-358-5611)\n or (708-358-8721)\n--\n  Digital Pixel (Sysop: Mark Ng <mcng@descartes.waterloo.edu>) is based at\n  Toronto, Ontario, Canada.\n \n  Phone : (416) 298 1487\n  Storage space: 330 megs\n  Modem type:  14.4k baud,16.8k (Zyxel) , v32bis ,v32, mnp 5\n\n  Access Fee: none.. (free)\n  System supported : DOS, OS\/2, Amiga, Mac.  \n  Netmail:     Currently no echo mail.\n  Topics:      Raytracing, Fractals, Graphics programming, CAD, Any Comp.\n               Graphics related  \n\n--\nFrom: David Tiberio <dtiberio@ic.sunysb.edu>\n\n  Amiga Graphics BBS (516) 473-6351 in Long Island, New York,\n  running 24 hours at 14.4k v.32bis, with 157 megs on line.\n  We also subscribe to 9 mailing lists, of which 5 originate\n  from our BBS, with 3 more to be added soon. These include:\n\n  Lightwave, Imagine, Real 3D (ray tracing)\n\n  Database files include:\n  Imagine 3D objects, 3D renderings, scalable fonts, music\n  modules, sound samples, demos, animations, utilities,\n  text databases, and pending Lightwave 3D objects.\n--\nThe Graphics Alternative\n\n The Graphics Alternative is in El Cerrito, CA., running 24 hours a\n day at 14.4k HST\/v.32bis, with 642MB online and a 1300+ user base.\n TGA runs two nodes, node 1 (510) 524-2780 is for public access and\n includes a free 90 day trial subscription.  TGA is the West Coast\n Host for PCGnet, The Profesional CAD and Graphics Network, supporting\n nodes across the Continental U.S., Alaska, New Zealand, Australia,\n France and the UK.\n \n TGA's file database includes MS-DOS executables for POV, Vivid,\n RTrace, Rayshade, Polyray, and others.  TGA also has numerous\n graphics utilities, viewers, and conversion utilities.  Registered\n Vivid users can also download the latest Vivid aeta code from a\n special Vivid conference.\n\n--\nFrom: Scott Bethke <sbathkey@access.digex.com>\n\nThe Intersection BBS, 410-250-7149.\n\n  This BBS Is dedicated to supporting 3D Animators.The system is provided\n  FREE OF CHARGE, and is NOT Commercialized in ANYWAY.\n  Users are given FULL Access on the first call.\n\nFeatures: Usenet NEWS & Internet Mail, Fidonet Echo's & Netmail,\n\t200 Megs online, V.32bis\/V.42bis Modem.\n\nPlatforms of interest: Amiga & The VideoToaster, Macintosh, Ms-Dos,\n\tUnix Workstations (Sun, SGI, etc), Atari-ST.\n--\nFrom: Alfonso Hermida <afanh@robots.gsfc.nasa.gov>:\n\n Pi Square BBS (301)725-9080 in Maryland. It supports raytracers such as POV\n and VIVID. The BBS runs off a 486\/33Mhz, 100Megs hard drive and CD ROM.\n Now it runs on 1200-2400bps (this will change soon)\n\n Topics: graphics programming, animation,raytracing,programming (general)\n--\nFrom: Lynn Falkow <ROXXIE@delphi.com>:\n\n  Vertech Design's GRAPHIC CONNECTION. (503) 591-8412 in Portland, Oregon.\n  V.32\/V.42bis.\n\n  The BBS, aside from carrying typical BBS services like message bases\n  ( all topic specific ) and files ( CAD and graphics related -- hundreds\n  of megabytes ), also offers material texture files that are full color,\n  seamlessly tiling, photo-realistic images.  There are samples available\n  to first time callers.  The BBS is a subscription system although callers\n  have 2 hours before they must subscribe, and there are several subscription\n  rates available.   People interested in materials can subscribe to the\n  library in addition to a basic subscription rate, and can use their\n  purchased time to download whichever materials they wish.\n\n==========================================================================\n\n5. Ray-tracing\/graphics-related mailing lists\n=============================================\n\nImagine\n-------\n  Modeling and animation system for the Amiga:\n  send subscription requests to Imagine-request@email.sp.paramax.com\n  send material to Imagine@email.sp.paramax.com\n  (Dave Wickard has substituted Steve Worley in the maintenance of\n  the mailing list) - PLEASE note that the unisys.com address is\n  NO longer valid!!!\n\nLightwave\n---------\n  (for the Amiga. It's part of Newtek's Video Toaster):\n  send subscription requests to lightwave-request@bobsbox.rent.com\n  send material to lightwave@bobsbox.rent.com\n  (Bob Lindabury)\n\nToaster\n-------\n  send subscription requests to listserv@karazm.math.uh.edu with a *body* of:\n     subscribe toaster-list\n\nReal 3D\n-------\n  Another modeling and animation system for the Amiga:\n  To subscribe, send a mail containing the body\n\n  subscribe real3d-l <Your full name>\n\n  to listserv@gu.uwa.edu.au\n\nRayshade\n--------\n  send subscription requests to rayshade-request@cs.princeton.edu\n  send material to rayshade-users@cs.princeton.edu\n  (Craig Kolb)\n\nAlladin 4D for the Amiga\n----------\n  send subscription requests to subscribe@xamiga.linet.org\n\n  and in the body of the message write\n\n  #Alladin 4D username@domain\n\nRadiance\n--------\n  Greg Ward, the author, sends to registered (via e-mail) users digests of\n  his correspodence with them, notes about fixes, updates, etc.\n  His address is: gjward@lbl.gov\n\nREND386\n-------\n  send subscription requests to rend386-request@sunee.waterloo.edu\n  send material to rend386@sunee.waterloo.edu\n\nPoV ray \/ DKB raytracers\n------------------------\n  To subscribe, send a mail containing the body\n\n  subscribe dkb-l <Your full name>\n\n  to listserv@trearn.bitnet\n\n  send material to dkb-l@trearn.bitnet\n\nMailing List for Massively Parallel Rendering\n---------------------------------------------\n  send subscription requests to mp-render-request@icase.edu\n  send material to mp-render@icase.edu\n\n==========================================================================\n\n6. 3D graphics editors\n======================\n\na. Public domain, free and shareware systems\n============================================\n\nVISION-3D\n---------\n  Mac-based program written by Paul D. Bourke (pdbourke@ccu1.aukland.ac.nz).\n  The program can be used to generate models directly in the RayShade\n  and Radiance file formats (polygons only).\n  It's shareware and listed on the FTP list.\n\nBRL\n---\n  A solid modeling system for most environments -- including SGI and X11.\n  It has CSG and NURBS, plus support for Non-Manifold Geometry\n  [Whatever it is].\n\n  You can get it *free* via FTP by signing and returning the relevant license,\n  found on ftp.brl.mil. Uses ray-tracing for engineering analyses.\n\n  Contact:\n\n  Ms. Carla Moyer\n  (410)-273-7794 tel.\n  (410)-272-6763 FAX\n  cad-dist@brl.mil E-mail\n\n  Snail mail:\n\n  BRL-CAD Distribution\n  SURVIAC Aberdeen Satellite Office 1003\n  Old Philadelphia Road,\n  Suite 103 Aberdeen\n  MD  21001  USA\n\nIRIT\n----\n  A constructive solid geometry (CSG) modeling program for PC and X11.\n  Includes freeform surface support. Free - see FTP list for where to\n  find it.\n\nSurfModel\n---------\n  A solid modeling program for PC written in Turbo Pascal 6.0 by\n  Ken Van Camp. Available from SIMTEL, pd1:<msdos.srfmodl> directory.\n\nNOODLES\n-------\n   From CMU, namely Fritz Printz and Levent Gursoz (elg@styx.edrc.cmu.edu).\n   It's based on Non Manifold Topology.\n   Ask them for more info, I don't know if they give it away.\n\nXYZ2\n----\n  XYZ2 is an interactive 3-D editor\/builder written by Dale P. Stocker to\n  create objects for the SurfaceModel, Automove, and DKB raytracer packages.\n  XYZ2 is free and can be found, for example, in SIMTEL20 as\n  <MSDOS.SURFMODL>XYZ21.ZIP (DOS only??)\n\n3DMOD\n-----\n  It's an MSDOS program. Check at barnacle.erc.clarkson.edu [128.153.28.12],\n  \/pub\/msdos\/graphics\/3dmod.* . Undocumented file format :-(\n  3DMOD is (C) 1991 by Micah Silverman, 25 Pierrepoint Ave., Postdam,\n  New York 13676, tel. 315-265-7140\n\nNORTHCAD\n--------\n  Shareware, <MSDOS.CAD>NCAD3D42.ZIP in SIMTEL20. Undocumented file format :-(\n\nVertex\n------\n  (Amiga)\n  Shareware, send $40 US (check or money order) to:\n\n  The Art Machine, 4189 Nickolas\n  Sterling Heights, MI  48310\n  USA\n\n  In addition to the now standard file formats, including Lightwave,\n  Imagine, Sculpt, Turbo Silver, GEO and Wavefront, this release offers\n  3D Professional and RayShade support. (Rayshade is supported only by\n  the primitive \"triangle\", but you can easily include this output in\n  your RayShade scripts)\n\n  The latest demo, version 1.62, is available on Fred Fish #727.\n\n  For more information, contact the author, Alex Deburie, at:\n\n  ad99s461@sycom.mi.org, Phone: (313) 939-2513\n  \n\nICoons\n------\n  (Amiga)\n  It's a spline based object modeller (\"ICoons\" = Interactive \n  COONS path editor) in amiga.physik.unizh.ch (gfx\/3d\/ICoons1.0.lzh).\n  It's free (under the GNU Licence) and requires FPU.\n\n  The program has a look&feel which is a cross between Journeyman and\n  Imagine, and it generates objects in TTDDD format.\n\n  It is possible to load Journeyman objects into ICoons, so the program\n  can be used to convert JMan objects to Imagine format.\n\n  Author: Helge E. Rasmussen <her@compel.dk>\n  PHONE + 45 36 72 33 00, FAX   + 45 36 72 43 00\n\n[ It's also on Fred Fish disk series n.775 - nfotis ]\n\n\nProtoCAD 3D\n-----------\n Ver 1.1 from Trius (shareware?)\n\n It's at wsmr-simtel20.army.mil and oak.oakland.edu as PCAD3D.ZIP (for PCs)\n\n It has this menu layout:\n\n         FILE       File handling (Load, Save, Import, Xport...)\n         DRAW       Draw 2D objects (Line, Circle, Box...)\n         3D         Draw 3D objects (Mesh, Sphere, Block...)\n         EDIT       Editing features (Copy, Move ...)\n         SURFACE    Modify objects (Revolve, Xtrude, Sweep...)\n         IMAGE      Image zooming features (Update, Window, Half...)\n         OPTION     Global defaults (Grid, Toggles, Axis...)\n         PLOT       Print drawing\/picture (Go, Image...)\n         RENDER     Shade objects (Frame, Lighting, Tune...)\n         LAYER      Layer options (Select active layer, set Colors...)\n\nSculptura\n---------\n  Runs under Windows 3.1, and outputs PoV files. A demo can be found\n  on wuarchive.wustl.edu in mirrors\/win3\/demo\/demo3d.zip\n\n  Author: Michael Gibson <gibsonm@stein.u.washington.edu>\n\n\nb. Commercial systems\n=====================\n\nAlpha_1\n-------\n  A spline-based modeling program written in University of Utah.\n  Features: splines up to trimmed NURBS; support for boolean operations;\n    sweeps, bending, warping, flattening etc.; groups of objects, and\n    transformations; extensible object types.\n  Applications include: NC machining, Animation utilities,\n    Dimensioning, FEM analysis, etc.\n  Rendering subsystem, with support for animations.\n  Support the following platforms: HP 300 and 800's (X11R4, HP-UX 6.5),\n    SGI 4D or PI machines (X11R4 and GL, IRIX 3.3.1), Sun SparcStation\n    (X11R4, SunOS 4.1.1).\n \n  Licensing and distribution is handled by EGS:\n    Glenn McMinn, President\n    Engineering Geometry Systems\n    275 East South Temple, Suite 305\n    Salt Lake City, UT  84111\n    (801) 575-6021\n    mcminn@cs.utah.edu\n\n [ Educational pricing ]\n  The charge is $675 per platform.  You may run the system on as many\n  different workstations of that type as you wish.  For each platform\n  there is also a $250 licensing fee for Portable Standard Lisp (PSL)\n  which is bundled with the system.  You need to obtain an additional\n  license from the University of Utah for PSL from the following address:\n    Professor Robert Kessler\n    Computer Science Department\n    University of Utah\n    Salt Lake City, Utah 84112\n\n  [ EGS can handle the licensing of PSL for U.S. institutions for a\n    300 $USD nominal fee -- nfotis ]\n\nVERTIGO\n-------\n\n  They have an Educational Institution Program. The package is used in\n  the industrial design, architectural, scientific visualization,\n  educational, broadcast, imaging and post production fields.\n\n  They'll [quoting from a letter sent to me -- nfotis ] \"donate fully\n  configured Vertigo 3D Graphics Software worth over $29,000USD per\n  package to qualified educational institutions for licencing on any\n  number of Silicon Graphics Personal IRIS or POWER Series Workstations.\n  If you use an IRIS Indigo station, we will also licence our Vertigo\n  Revolution Software (worth $12,000USD).\n\n  If you are interested in participating in this program please send a\n  letter by mail or fax (604\/684-2108) on your institution's letterhead\n  briefly outlining your potential uses for Vertigo together with the\n  following information: 1. UNIX version 2. Model and number of SGI\n  systems 3. Peripheral devices 4. Third Party Software.\n\n  Participants will be asked to contribute $750USD per institution to cover\n  costs of the manual, administration, and shipping.\n\n  We recommend that Vertigo users subscribe to our technical support\n  services. For an annual fee you will receive: technical assistance\n  on our support hotline, bug fixes, software upgrades and manual updates.\n  For educational institution we will waive the $750 administration fee\n  if support is purchased.\n\n  The annual support fee is $2,500 plus the following cost for additional\n  machines:\n\n  Number of machines:\t\t2-20\t\t20+\n  Additional cost per machine:\t$700\t\t$600 \"\n\n[ There's also a 5-day training program - nfotis]\n\nContact:\n  Vertigo Technology INC\n  Suite 1010\n  1030 West Georgia St.\n  VANCOUVER, BC\n  CANADA, V6E 2Y3\n\n  Phone: 604\/684-2113\n  Fax:   604\/684-2108\n\n[ Does anyone know of such offers from TDI, Alias, Softimage, Wavefront,\n  etc.??? this would be a VERY interesting part!!  -- nfotis ]\n\nPADL-2\n------\n[ Basically, it's a Solid Modeling Kernel in top of which you build your\n  application(s)]\n\n  Available by license from\n    Cornell Programmable Automation\n    Cornell University\n    106 Engineering and Theory Center\n    Ithaca, NY 14853\n\n  License fees are very low for educational institutions and gov't agencies.\n  Internal commercial licenses and re-dissemination licenses are available.\n  For an information packet, write to the above address, or send your\n  address to:   marisa@cpa.tn.cornell.edu (Richard Marisa)\n\nACIS\n----\n  From Spatial Technology. It's a Solid Modelling kernel callable from C.\n  Heard that many universities got free copies from the company.\n  The person to contact regarding ACIS in academic institutions is\n\n    Scott Owens, e-mail: sdo@spatial.com\n\n  And their address is:\n\n  Spatial Technology, Inc.\n  2425 55th St., Bldg. A\n  Boulder, CO 80301-5704\n  Phone: (303) 449-0649, Fax: (303) 449-0926\n\nMOVIE-BYU \/ CQUEL.BYU\n---------------------\n  Basically [in my understanding], this is a FEM pre- and post-proccessor\n  system. It's fairly old today, but it still serves some people in\n  Mech. Eng. Depts.\n  Now it's superseded from CQUEL.BYU (pronounced \"sequel\"). That's a\n  complete modelling, animation and visualization package. Runs in the usual\n  workstation environments (SUN, DEC, HP, SGI, IBM RS6000, and others)\n  You can get a demo version (30-days trial period) either by sending $20\n  USD in their address or a blank tape. It costs 1,500 for a full run-time\n  licence.\n\n  Contact:\n\n  Engineering Computer Graphics Lab\n  368 Clyde Building, Brigham Young Univ.\n  Provo, UT 84602\n  Phone: 801-378-2812\n  E-mail: cquel@byu.edu\n\n\ntwixt\n-----\n  Soon to add stuff about it... If I get a reply to my FAX\n\nVOXBLAST\n--------\n  It's a volume renderer marketed by:\n  Vaytek Inc. (Fairfield, Iowa phone: 515-472-2227) , running on PCs\n  with 386+FPU at least.  Call Vaytek for more info.\n\nVoxelBox\n--------\n  A 3D Volume renderer for Windows. Features include direct\n  ray-traced volume rendering, color and alpha mapping,\n  gradient lighting, animation, reflections and shadows.\n\n  Runs on a PC(386 or higher) with at least an 8 bit video card(SVGA is fine)\n  under Windows 3.x. It costs $495.\n\n  Contact:\n\n  Jaguar Software Inc.\n  573 Main St., Suite 9B\n  Winchester, MA 01890\n  (617) 729-3659\n  jwp@world.std.com (john w poduska)\n\n==========================================================================\n\n7. Scene description languages\n==============================\n\nNFF\n---\n  Neutral file format , by Eric Haines. Very simple, there are some\n  procedural database generators in the SPD package, and many objects\n  floating in various FTP sites. There's also a previewer written in\n  HP Starbase from E.Haines. Also there's one written in VOGLE, so you can\n  use any of the devices VOGLE can output on.\n  (Check in sites carrying VOGLE, like gondwana.ecr.mu.oz.au)\n\nOFF\n---\n  Object file format, from DEC's Randy Rost (rost@kpc.com).\n[ The object archive server seems to be mothballed. In a future version,\n I'll remove the ref. to it -- nfotis ]\n\n  Available also through their mail server. To obtain help about using this\n  service, send a message with a \"Subject:\" line containing only the word\n  \"help\" and a null message body to: object-archive-server@decwrl.dec.com.\n  [For FTP places to get it, see in the relevant place]. There's an OFF\n  previewer for SGI 4D machines, called off-preview in\n  godzilla.cgl.rmit.oz.au . There are previewers for xview and sunview,\n  also on gondwana.\n\nTDDD\n----\nIt's a library of 3D objects with translators to\/from OFF, NFF,\nRayshade, Imagine or vort objects.\nEdited copy of the announcement follows (from Raytracing News, V4,#3):\n\n  New Library of 3D Objects Available via FTP, by Steve Worley\n  (worley@cup.portal.com)\n\n  I have assembled a set of over 150 3D objects in a binary format\n  called TDDD. These objects range from human figures to airplanes,\n  from semi-trucks to lampposts.  These objects are all freely\n  distributable, and most have READMEs that describe them.\n\n  In order to convert these objects to a human-readable format, a file\n  with the specification of TDDD is included in the directory with the\n  objects. There is also a shareware system called TTDDDLIB (officially\n  on hubcap.clemson.edu) that will convert (ala PBM+) to\/from various\n  object formats : Imagine TTDDD (extension of TDDD?), OFF, NFF,\n  Rayshade 4.0, or vort. Source included for Amiga\/Unix as executables\n  for the Amiga. Also outputs Framemaker MIF files and isometric views\n  in Postscript.\n\nP3D\n---\n  From Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center. The P3D uses lisp with slight\n  extensions to store three-dimensional models. A simple lisp\n  interpreter is included with the P3D release, so there is no need to\n  have access to any vendor's lisp to run this software.\n\n  The mouse-driven user interfaces for Motif, Open Look, and Silicon\n  Graphics GL, and the DrawP3D subroutine library for generating P3D\n  without ever looking at the underlying Lisp.\n\n  The P3D software currently supports nine renderers.  They are:\n  Painter - Painter's Algorithm, Dore, Silicon Graphics Inc. GL language,\n  Generic Phigs, Sun Phigs+, DEC Phigs+, Rayshade, ART ray tracer (from\n  VORT package) and Pixar RenderMan.\n\n  The code is available via anonymous FTP from the machines\n  ftp.psc.edu, directory pub\/p3d, and nic.funet.fi, directory\n  pub\/graphics\/programs\/p3d.\n\nRenderMan\n---------\n  Pixar's RenderMan is not free - call Pixar for details.\n\n==========================================================================\n\n8. Solids description formats\n=============================\n\na. EEC's ESPRIT project 322 CAD*I (CAD Interfaces) has developed a\n  neutral file format for transfer of CAD data (curves, surfaces, and\n  solid models between CAD systems and from CAD to CAA (Computer Aided\n  Analysis) an CAM (Computer Aided Manufacturing)\n\nb. IGES [v. 5.1 now] tries to define a standard to tranfer solid\n  models - Brep and CSG. The current standard number is ANSI Y14.26M-1987\n  For documentation, you might want to contact Nancy Flower at\n  NCGA Technical Services and Standards, 1-800-225-6242 ext. 325\n  and the cost is $100.\n  This standard is not available in electronic format.\n\nc. PDES\/STEP : This slowly emerging standard tries to encompass not only\n  the geometrical information, but also for things like FEM, etc.\n  The main bodies besides this standard are NIST and DARPA. You can get\n  more information about PDES by sending mail to nptserver@cme.nist.gov\n  and putting the line\n\tsend index\n  in the body (NOT the Subject:) area of the message.\n\n  The people at Rutherford Appleton Lab.  are also working\n  on STEP tools: they have an EXPRESS compiler and an Exchange file parser,\n  both available in source form (and for free) for research purposes.\n  Soon they will also have an EXPRESS-based database system.\n\n  For the tools contact Mike Mead, Phone: +44 (0235) 44 6710 (FAX: x 5893),\n  e-mail: mm@inf.rl.ac.uk or {...!}mcsun!uknet!rlinf!mm or\n          mm%inf.rl.ac.uk@NSFnet-relay.ac.uk\n\n==========================================================================\n\nEnd of Part 1 of the Resource Listing","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Turkish Historical Revision <9305111942@zuma.UUCP> via dotage sera@zuma.UUCP \n(Serdar Argic) responded to article <1sn5f5INNkh6@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU> \n\n[MP]   Actually, I would like to get a compilation of these one liners, \n[MP] so that I could print them out and show them to my friends over the \n[MP] summer, and they can see what kind of clowns exist out there in Chicago.\n\nCheck out alt.fans.serdar.argic!\n\n[(*] Well, does it change the fact that during the period of 1914 to 1920, \n[(*] the Armenian Government ordered, incited, assisted and participated \n[(*] in the genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people because of race, religion\n[(*] and national origin?\n\nMuslim race? Muslim national origin? You fool!\n\n[(*] 1) Armenians did slaughter the entire Muslim population of Van.[1,2,3,4,5]\n\nNO. Today: Muslims 100%, Armenians 0%\n\n[(*] 2) Armenians did slaughter 42% of Muslim population of Bitlis.[1,2,3,4]\n\nNO. Today: Muslims 100%, Armenians 0%\n\n[(*] 3) Armenians did slaughter 31% of Muslim population of Erzurum.[1,2,3,4]\n\nNO. Today: Muslims 100%, Armenians 0%\n\n[(*] 4) Armenians did slaughter 26% of Muslim population of Diyarbakir.[1,2,\n[(*] 3,4]\n\nNO. Today: Muslims 100%, Armenians 0%\n\n[(*] 5) Armenians did slaughter 16% of Muslim population of Mamuretulaziz.[1,\n[(*] 2,3,4]\n\nNO. Today: Muslims 100%, Armenians 0%\n\n[(*] 6) Armenians did slaughter 15% of Muslim population of Sivas.[1,2,3,4]\n\nNO. Today: Muslims 100%, Armenians 0%\n\n[(*] 7) Armenians did slaughter the entire Muslim population of the x-Soviet\n[(*]   Armenia.[1,2,3,4]\n\nNo. The Azeri population of Armenia in 1988, after anti-Armenian pogroms in\nAzerbaijan, was kicked out and sent to Azerbaijan. The remaining Muslims \nstayed in Armenia!\n\n[(*] [1] McCarthy, J., \"Muslims and Minorities, The Population of Ottoman \n[(*]                   Anatolia and the End of the Empire,\" New York \n[(*]                   University Press, New York, 1983, pp. 133-144.\n\nLet's check it out! On page 121 of this Turkish suggested reference we read:\n\n \"The 1927 Turkish census registered not one person of the Gregorian Armenian\n  faith in Van, only one in Bayazit, and twelve in Erzurum. A people who had\n  lived in eastern Anatolia since before recorded history were simply gone.\"\n\n[(*] [2] Karpat, K., \"Ottoman Population,\" The University of Wisconsin Press,\n[(*]                  1985.\n\nLet's check it out, but first of all the complete title of this reference\nincludes the words \"1830-1914\". Thus such a reference cannot support the \nabove claimed garbage! However, since this is a Turkish suggested reference,\non pages 51 and on Table I2-B it states there were 2.4 million Armenians in\nTurkey from 1844-1856. I guess they \"were simply gone\" after WWI!\n\n[(*] [3] Hovannisian, R. G., \"Armenia on the Road to Independence, 1918. \n[(*]                         University of California Press (Berkeley and \n[(*]                         Los Angeles), 1967, pp. 13, 37.\n\nLet's check it out! On page 48 of this Turkish-suggested reference, under\nsub-title, \"Deportation and Massacre of Turkish Armenians\" it states:\n\n \"Several authors assert that Armenian resistance at Van constituted a key\n  factor in the Turkish evacuation of Persia and motivated the Ittihadist\n  [Young Turk] leaders to annihilate the Turkish Armenians. The question of\n  responsibility for the massacres or deportation of nearly all Ottoman\n  Armenians has evolved into a polemic. Hundreds of books, articles, and\n  documents have been published to describe the horrifying scenes of violence\n  and death. Many writers, such as the British Bryce and Toynbee, French Pinon,\n  German Lepsius, American Morganthau and Gibbons, have insisted that the\n  massacres were predetermined and ruthlessly executed. The have refuted the\n  Ottoman government's official publications and justifications by\n  substantiating that anti-Armenian measures were deliberated by the \n  Ittihadists even before the outbreak of war. The fact remains than an \n  estimated eight hundred thousand to over a million Armenians perished within\n  a few months, and several hundred thousand more succumbed in the following\n  years to the ravages of disease, famine, and refugee life. Unknown numbers\n  of women and children were converted forcibly to Islam, possessed by\n  Turkish men, or adopted by Moslem families.\"\n\n\n[(*][4] Shaw, S. J., 'On Armenian collaboration with invading Russian armies \n[(*]                 in 1914, \"History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey \n[(*]                   (Volume II: Reform, Revolution & Republic: The Rise of \n[(*]                 Modern Turkey, 1808-1975).\" (London, Cambridge University \n[(*]                  Press 1977). pp. 315-316.\n\nStanford Shaw is a paid liar\/revisionist for the Turkish government, and has\nbeen exposed as a plagiarizer! For example:\n\nExperts from an interview (in Greek) with Professor Spyros Vryonis (from NYC's\nNational Herald, 3\/12\/93) [Thanks, Mr. G.B.]\n\n \"Few people know of the problem I faced at UCLA when Professor Stanford\n  Shaw was due for promotion. I knew him to be Turkey's man; due to my\n  reading knowledge of Turkish and my seniority over him, I was a member\n  of the promotion committee. For that case, I sat down and read his entire\n  treatise \"History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey\". It took me\n  three months and I found out, from volume I, that he had plagiarized \n  Uzun Jarsoglu, an eminent Turkish specialist on Ottoman history. Shaw\n  himself claimed in his introduction that his treatise was the outcome \n  of a 20-year search through the Ottoman Archives. Well, I went on leave  \n  and managed to show 40% of Volume I, containing around 5000 sentences, \n  to be the result of plagiarism, matching each sentence with passages    \n  from the original work. He had even reproduced the errors. So I produced a\n  500-pages manuscript and submitted a 60-pages report on Shaw's plagiarism. \n\n  The University, however, rejected my report and, after a closed meeting,\n  promoted Stanford Shaw to Distinguished Professor. I paid a price for \n  all this: upset by the whole process, I confronted the entire University\n  structure and was considered to be a chauvinist and madman. I asked for\n  permission to run a seminar on Shaw's book that was denied by the President\n  of the University. While the Center for Near Eastern Studies granted me\n  permission, the President was depriving me of my academic freedom. Luckily,\n  the Dean refused to give in and I did run the seminar, attended by more \n  than 150 academic people, in which I uncovered Stanford Shaw, who refused\n  to attend. As a punishment, the University froze all my raises.\"\n\n[5] \"Gochnak\" (Armenian newspaper published in the United States), May 24, \n              1915.\n\nNo chance! There was no May 24th, 1915 issue of Gochnak!\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Those VHS movies have to be sold because I am moving in 6 weeks.\nAnd I have no idea what happend to those people who made the\ndeal with me before. So here I am, trying to post another message, \nagaint. ( I don't mean to waste your valuable time.)\n\nBasic Instinct\t\t\t$11.00\nBorn on the Forth of July\t$11.00\nBackdraft\t\t\t$11.00\nPresumed Innocent\t\t$11.00\nThe Prince of Tides\t\t$11.00\nDance of Wolves\t\t\t$11.00\n\nAll the prices are including shipping. You get all of them for\n$60.00. \n\nPackage deals are very welcome...\n\nSo make me an offer...","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"=>I don't necessarily agree with Pat Robertson.  Every one will be placed before\n=>the judgement seat eventually and judged on what we have done or failed to do\n=>on this earth.  God allows people to choose who and what they want to worship.\n=\n=I'm sorry, but He does not!  Ever read the FIRST commandment?\n\nI have.  Apparently you haven't.  The first commandment doesn't appear to\nforbid worshipping other gods.  Yahweh's got to be at the top of the totem\npole, though.\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nCarl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI\/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nYes and No. ESPN2 will be launched as early in September. Cap Cities\nare currently working with cable companies to ensure a good start-up\nbase needed for a launch for any brand new cable service.\n\nThe problem ESPN2 faces is the TCI-Cablevision connection in the\nmerger of their Prime and SportsChannel networks. Prime SportsChannel\nwill try to wrestle away NHL from ESPN in the off-season. Also,TCI\nand Cablevision have control a large number of cable systems around the\ncountry with a total of 15 million subscribers. TCI-Cablevision will\ndo their best that ESPN2 never gets off the ground successfully. And the\nNHL's value will suddenly skyrocket in this cable war between Prime SC\nand ESPN. NHL is more vital to the survival of a regionalized Prime\nSportsChannel since they virtually have no national major league sports\ncontracts and only cover local NHL\/NBA\/MLB sports teams.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nSo you really see no problem with banning them from places to which you\ndon't want to go?\n\n\nTalk to somebody in the insurance industry, particularly after a few\ndrinks.  Then talk to my mom (no booze required).  :^)\n\n\nEver heard of the DoD?   :^)\n\n\n\nNah, you just became complacent that so long as your little quarter\nacre is safe, you get your little tax deduction, and no act of the\ngovernment intrudes, in too direct and obvious a way, into your little\nday to day life, you just don't give a shit.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"In a debate about the student government here at our university, a\nquestion was raised by one student senator:  \n\n\"Why should I represent people who didn't vote?\"\n\nand by implication, this raises a different question:\n\n\"Why should I represent people who didn't vote for me?\"\n\nI feel that there are many good reasons that anyone elected to public\noffice (in student government or any other government) should strive\nto represent ALL the people in their constituency (class of '95 or a\ngeographical area, or whatever).  \n\nI would like some help from others in phrasing a reasonable argument\non this topic.  Thanks.\n\nFollowups are directed to talk.politics.misc, but email is preferred.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThis is not a \"studies\", but a study.  Other studies, including the\njust-published \"Janus Report\", give very different figures.  The Janus\nReport figures are not too different than Kinsey: 9% homosexual men,\nand 4% bisexual men.\n\n\n\nDon't be stupid.  The Kinsey report is one study, so it can't be \"all\nover the map\" all by itself.  Other studies, including the Battelle\none, have also been criticed.  As far as agendas go, this is really\nchutzpah.  *Your* agenda is obvious.\n\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":" \nLuke 16 talks about the rich man and Lazarus. Matthew 25 talks about \nthe eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. Revelations\n20 and 21 reference this fire as the place where unbelievers are\nthrown. Matthew 18 talks about being thrown into the eternal fire and\nthe fire of hell. It seems quite clear that there is this place where\na fire burns forever. From the Revelations passages it is clear that\nthe devil and his angels will be tormented there forever. From the\nMatthew 25 passage it doesn't seem abundantly clear whether the\npunishment of unbelievers is everlasting in the sense of final or\nin the sense of continual. \n \nFrom Dale's question, I come away with the suggestion that hell,\nif it were short, might be an acceptable alternative to living\nforever with the Source of Life, Peace and Joy i.e. the \nunbeliever ceases to exist. Whereas, if punishment goes on\ncontinually, then one should have a greater motivation to avoid it.\nIt definately seems to me that hell is something we want to avoid\nregardless of its exact nature. \n\nThere seem to be two main questions in Dale's thought:\nWhat is God's main plan on earth?\nWhy is continual punishment a necessary part of hell as opposed\nto simply destroying completely those who refuse God?\n\nI believe that God's main plan is to have a genuine relationship\nwith people.\n\nThe nature of hell and the reasons for its nature seem a lot more\ndifficult to ascertain. It does seem clear that hell is something\nto avoid. At a minimum, hell is the state one is in when one has\nnothing to do with God.\n\nIn the Bible, I am not aware of any discussion about the specifics of\nhell beyond the general of hot, unpleasant and torment. For instance,\nit is not discussed how (if at all) the rich man can\ncontinually stay in the fire and still feel discomfort or pain or\nwhether there is some point at which the pain sensing ability is\nburned up. If you can forgive the graphicalness, if you throw a\nphysical body into a fire, assuming the person starts out alive,\nat some fairly quick point, the nerves are destroyed and pain is\nno longer sensed. It is not stated what occurs when at the judgement,\nthe unbelievers, (who are already physically dead) are cast into hell\ni.e. they no longer have a physical body so they can't feel physical\npain. What could be sensed continually is that those in hell are\nto be forever without God. \n \nThe Lazarus\/rich man parable is told with the idea of having the listener\nthink in physical terms in order to get the point that some people\nwon't listen to God even after he rises from the dead. The point of\nthe parable is to reach the hard-hearted here who are not listening\nto the fact of the resurrection nor the Gospel about Jesus Christ.\nIt seems reasonable to also draw from the parable that hell is\nnot even remotely pleasant.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I baptize you with water for repentance.\n\tBut after me will come one who is more powerful than I,\n\twhose sandals I am not fit to carry.\n\tHe will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nIf you were to start your own religion, this would be fine.  But there\nis no scriptural basis for your statement, in fact it really gets to\nthe heart of the problem.  You think you know more than scripture.\nYour faith is driven by feel goodism and not by the Word of God.  Just\nbecause they are nice people doesn't make it right.  You can start all\nthe churches you want and it won't change the fact that it is wrong.\nThat is not to imply that gays don't deserve the same love and\nforgiveness that anyone else does.  But to call their behavior right\njust because they are nice people is baseless, and it offers Satan a\nperfect place to work because there is no check on what he is doing.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nI don't think that it is \"obvious\" that \"lots\" of people are willing\nto pay the price.  I'm sure someone out there in net-land has some\nfacts about trends in attendance regarding percentage of capacity\nsold.  But even if the trends are relatively flat, you have to consider\nwhat is happening on a team-by-team basis.\n\nWhen the TV money dries up, franchises will be seeking to supplant the\nlost revenues from alternative sources.  One of the best sources may\nbe ticket sales.\n\nExample 1:\tThe Dodgers\n\n\tThe Dodgers can count on a strong base of season ticket sales\n\tand *probably* believe that they have the ability to raise\n\tprices without hindering revenues.  I certainly think that is\n\ttrue.\n\nExample 2:\tThe Padres\n\n\tThey will be lucky to average 10,000 fans a game this year.\n\tIf they raise prices, less.  If they want to increase their\n\toverall revenue base, the best thing they can do is put a\n\twinning team on the field.  But given that won't happen (it\n\twon't), they can probably make more money by lowering ticket\n\tprices and running frequent promotions.  Will they do that?\n\tI have no idea.  But they won't increase prices, because it\n\twon't work *for them*.\n\n\n\n\nThe only strange powers at work here are the forces of the market place.\nEach team's market is somewhat different, and each owner is going to\nbe faced with a unique set of circumstances about how to deal with those\nmarket forces.  As a buiness manager, I would never *want* to lower my\nprices, but sometimes that strategy is necessary, and sometimes it works.\nYou have to consider everything if you want continued success.\n\n\n\n\n--\tThe Beastmaster\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"[Interchange on Hoban deleted]\n\n\nOnly those you haven't actually read?  Sorry, but the irony remains.\n\n\nSo although you don't agree with the fatwa, and apparently don't think\nRushdie should be killed for his book, yet you think he is not due\nsympathy for being being under this threat.  Furthermore you base this\nreaction solely on the fact that he wrote about a particular\nwell-known story which -- if true -- might reflect poorly on the\nabsolute truth of your religion.  Yet, this opinion is formed without\nrecourse to actually looking to see how the story is used in context,\naccepting at face value the widespread propaganda on just what this\nbook contains and what the author's motivations are.  And then you\ncome forward and recommend another book which touches on (presumably\n\"plays with\") religious\/historical material because you find its\noverall presentation neutral!","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"If the student has a kidney infection, she ought to be on antibiotics.\nKidney infections-- left untreated-- can cause permanent damage to\nthe kidneys.  I was hospitalized with a kidney infection a while ago\nand I was very sick.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nThis sounds an awful lot like a password-guesser, not a weakness in\nDES.  Merritt and I pointed out this weakness in Kerberos in a paper\nthat came out about 2.5 years ago, in both Computer Communications\nReview and Usenix.  For that matter, it was loudly discussed on the\nKerberos mailing list even earlier.\n\nThe problem has nothing whatsoever to do with DES, and everything to do\nwith bad password selection.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I've got a 4PR1000A (EIMAC) unused transmitter tube for sale. Best offer\nso far is $125. That's getting close to what I'll sell it for.\nHamfest prices have been about $200 - $250. It works, guaranteed.\nOriginal packaging.\n-- \n--------------------------------------------------------------------\n       Dave Medin\t\t\tPhone:\t(205) 730-3169 (w)\n    SSD--Networking\t\t\t\t(205) 837-1174 (h)\n    Intergraph Corp.\n       M\/S GD3004 \t\tInternet: dtmedin@catbyte.b30.ingr.com\n  Huntsville, AL 35894\t\tUUCP:  ...uunet!ingr!b30!catbyte!dtmedin","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"What is the maximum rate of the 6882 FPU that Apple sells directly (Apple\nPart No. M6775 LL\/A)?  The Apple literature labels the FPU for Classics and\nLC III's so I assume it will do at least 25MHz.  My question is can I put\nit in a Performa 600 (68030 @ 32MHz)?  The Apple price is cheap at $78\ncompared to ~$135 from mail order houses.  Any one know the answer to this\none?\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n     You  should  try  having  a  .xsession  script in $HOME to do these\nthings.  xdm will  start  up  your  process  using  the  system  version\n(usually \/usr\/lib\/X11\/xdm\/Xsession), which should check whether you have\nyour won and change to that if you do.  (Take a copy of the  system  one\nand edit it). \n\n     Note, that this file requires \"x\" access to be set.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I would say only to the extent that the Roman Catholic Church\nneither approves nor disapproves of capital punishment, as\nconfirmed in the recent catechism, though there are many RCs\nwho were rather surprised and upset that capital punishment was\nnot explicitly condemned.\n\nFor myself, as a Catholic, I see my own opposition to capital\npunishment as much the same as my opposition to abortion - a\nreverence for life. Here in the UK, the anti-abortion case is\noften let down by the explicit link which those on the\npolitical left make with anti-abortionists and\npro-executionists. There is a tendency to condemn people who\nhold both views as hypocrites. I feel that if there were many\nmore anti-abortionists who were also vocal in their opposition\nto capital punishment on a pro-life line, it would end this\nkneejerk association of anti-abortion as a right-wing thing,\nand get many to think seriously about the issue (there are\nplenty who are pro-abortion equally for a kneejerk left-wing\nreason).\n\nI do not think your biblical quote can automatically be taken\nas support for capital punishment. I take it that as a Roman\nCatholic you are opposed to abortion, and would still onsider\nit wrong, and something to be objected to even if legalised by\n\"authority\".","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
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{"text":"TEST-- \n\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nHah.  Newbie bait.  Everyone knows the first motorcycle\nwasn't built until 1893 - there _were_ no pre-'80's motorcycles!\n\n\nYou've been watching too much Northern Exposure.\n\n\nWhy?  Because our wheels are repairable?\n\n\nHumph.  Obviously, more bait.  Everyone knows you don't discard\nMaytag boxes.  Even after they've become uninhabitable, they're\nmake a great poor boy's mechanic's creeper.\n\nCX500?  Whazzat?\n\n\nOkay.  Let's hear you squeal like a pig.\n\n\nBeware fanatical preaching, lest the residents of Waco, Texas set up\na huge salad bar in your honor...","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----\n\nGasp!\n\nI've just spent 3 hours catching up on sci.crypt here (slow reader I\nguess) and I really have to put out a few comments too.  First, let me\nflame the famous Dave S. : He's obviously only 10 years old.  Cut him\nsome slack. :^}\n\nThe joke about Clinton\/crypto\/drugs slammed me thru the roof.  Nice job\nguys!  I've been working on marijuana legalization for over 5 years\nnow, Clinton's actions so far have really helped.  But because of\ngovernment action taken against various other groups, I have developed\na 64 bit DES based on public literature to protect my mailing list.\nThe S-boxes are the critical component, and since I chose 32 out of 57\nbased on the key, cracking this DES is going to tough.  (The reason it\nslows you down a touch is that for each key you try you need to use a\ndifferent set of s-boxes, I know it's only a vector, but it sure makes\nrandom search a pain).  Several marijuana legalization groups have had\ntheir mailing lists confiscated when people were charged with drug\nuse\/sales.  It's not a crime to be a member of a legalization org,\n*but* you will be watched.\n\nIt really is important to write a letter to every official you\npersonally vote for to explain *why* your privacy is being destroyed by\nthe \"cripple chip\".  Amazingly enough they do listen when they get\n*enough* mail.  The Doonsbery jokes about NRA postcards are real, and\nthe IMI (Illinois Marijuana Initiative) has grown to the point where we\n*are* seeing some changes.\n\nIt's pretty clear that all the hullabaloo is really about the\nimplimentation decision being made behind our backs.  As Vesselin\npoints out, this was common practice in communist regimes (and may be\nagain depending on how the vote goes).  But just as criminals have guns\nand \"law abiding\" citizens don't, and criminals like me have marijuana\nand \"law abiding\" subjects don't, criminals like me will have secure\ncrypto while \"law abiding\" robots don't.  PGP is nice, but as time goes\non we all can do better.  And to save our hides we will.\n\nSomeone posted an excerpt from Machiavelli.  He's my favorite dude.\n500 years ago he saw clearly how people *are*, and tried to explain\nthat to \"princes\" who wanted people to *obey*.  One section not quoted\n(I've got \"The Prince\" at home, so I'll just paraphrase :) ) had to do\nwith conquring a free city.  The only way is to *completly destroy*\nit.  Failing that, you must appoint locals to high positions and accept\nthe people's customs.  Even after 100 years of oppression, a people\nwill remember their heratige and rise up to overthrow the oppresive\ngovernment.  And he gave an example.  And that was 300 years *before*\nThomas Jefferson.\n\nThere were questions about watching traffic.  Only *interesting* traffic\nis watched: stuff that goes overseas and comes back; stuff with keywords\nlike marijauana, cryptography, NSA;  certain individuals who are known\nsubversives, etc.  It is easy enough to store all that traffic.  So if\nyou know how to be *subversive* i.e. how to be unseen, it's pretty easy\nto go unnoticed for a long time.  The stronger your crypto system and the\nless you're noticed, the better your chances of developing an organization\nwhich can diseminate truth to the masses.\n\nWhich gets me to the thread about a \"public encrypted conference\".\nThat's just silly.  The first thing the feds do is send in an\ninfiltrator (like Dave S.) and they know what you're doing.  It will be\nfun for teenagers and college students, but for the real world it's\npretty pointless.  Crypto is useful for more things than hiding where\nyou get your marijuana.\n\nGuns, drugs and crypto do have some commonality: there are people in\ngovernment who want you to *obey* their rules.  As Lundquist says in\nalt.drugs \"Live free or don't\".  Machiavelli pointed out that's just\nhow most people actually live, inspite of appearences to the contrary.\nIt's true that the decision to shove the clipper (not the same thing as\nIntergraph's!!!) down our throats violates the principles of what the\nU.S. was founded on, but the government is full of idiotic robots\ncalled bureaucrats and there's less to worry about than one might\nthink.  Only really innocent (read naive) subjects of the U.S. will be\nhurt by this, the rest of us *criminals* will live in secure freedom.\nde Toqueville pointed out 150+ years ago that the tyranny of the\nmajority will be mitigated by the mediocrity of the government.\n\nAnd given what I see government officials doing where I work (Argonne\nNational Lab.) the level of stupidity makes Dave S. look smart.\n\nPatience, persistence, truth,\t\twork: dvader@hemp-imi.hep.anl.gov\nDr. mike\t\t\t\thome: mrosing@igc.org\n\n-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----\nVersion: 2.2","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"PLEASE REPLY TO THE FOLLOWING ADDRESS:\n\t\thani.akhras@jhuapl.edu\n__________________________________\n\nThe following discs are for sale:\nAll discs are postage paid.\n\n\n\nCamouflage|Methods Of Silence|$8 ppd\nRevenge|One True Passion|$8 ppd\nCabaret Voltaire|Technology:Western Re-Works 1992|$8 ppd\nSoul II Soul|Keep On Moving (CD5)|$5 ppd\nSoul II Soul|Vol II: A New Decade|$8 ppd\nLee Perry & The Upsetters|All The Hits|$8 ppd\nThe Daou|Head Music|$7 ppd\nBizzare Inc|Energique|$8 ppd\n\n\nThe following cassettes are for sale:\n2 Minimum\n\nLiving in a Box| Living in a Box|$3|CS|\nMichael Jackson|Thriller|$3|CS|\nOlivia Newton John|Physical|$3|CS|\nSteel Pulse|Reggae Greats|$3|CS|\n\n__________________________________","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nHmm, it seems that this is the core of Christianity then, you \nhave to feel guilty, and then there's this single personality\nthat will save you from this universal guilt feeling.\n\nBrian, I will tell you a secret, I don't feel guilty at all,\nI do mistakes, and I regret them, however I've never had this\nhuge guilt feeling hanging over my shoulder.\n\nIf things happen wrong, I will try to learn from the mistakes\nand go on.\n\nThis all is a very clear indication that you need a certain\npersonality type in order to believe and adjust to certain\nreligious doctrines. And if your personality type is \nopposite, then you are not that easily attached to a certain\nworld view system.\n\n\nAll I know is that I don't know everything. And frankly speaking\nI don't care, life is fun anyway. I recognize that I'm not \nperfect, but that does not hinder me from have a healthy\nand inspiring life.\n\nThere are humans that subscribe to the same notion. The nice\nthing is that when you finally shake off this huge burden,\nthe shoulders feel far more relaxed!\n\nCheers,\nKent","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n[much stuff deleted]\n\nexcuse me, but what makes you think that just because he's atheist he\ndoesn't know anything about christianity????  in my (albeit limited)\nexperience atheists are often the ones who know _more_ about the\nbible, having searched it from end to end for answers.  i myself am a\nchristian, but that doesn't mean i consider myself more of an\nauthority on my religion -- i just have a different perspective on it\n(more biased in favor, naturally :) ).\n\nit seems quite obvious why he is subscribed, if i may infer from what\nmotives anyway -- at the very least (although i dislike this kind of\nlogic), one could hope that he will \"see the light\".  critcism will, i\nfear, not give him a very positive picture of christians....\n\n\nwith regard to this, i guess i don't really feel sentiments of this\norder can be proven -- faith has a lot to do with it.  this is why\nthose who search the bible from cover to cover for answers won't\nnecessarily get what they're looking for.  of course that doesn't help\nanyone who doesn't already have faith -- what a big catch 22.  i\ndiscovered this quite recently when i ran into an agnostic looking for an\nexplanation of my faith and i quickly discovered that i could give him\nnothing more than my life story and a description of my nature.  faith\nis a very personal thing -- any attempt to \"prove\" the \"facts\" behind\nit must be questioned.\n\n\nlikewise -- no matter what you believe.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n   Wasn't the shareware fee a \"suggestion\" by John?\n   Is so then it's up to the individual to make the choice whether or not to\n   honour it and part with money.  Personally if I was in his position I would\n   do exactly the same thing, John has obviously put in lot of time and effort\n   into xv and why shouldn't he receive some money for it.\n\nIt is interesting to look at the change(s) of mind that John has had.\n\nThe AUTHOR file for xgif (an early incarnation of xv) reads (in part) \nas follows...\n\n  Do whatever you want with this program, though it *would* be nice if my name\n  remained on it somewhere...  Other than that, it may be freely modified,\n  distributed, and used to fill up disk space.\n\nThe README file for xv 1.00 (?) reads (in part) as follows...\n\n  NOTE:  If you like the program and decide to use it, *please* send me a short\n  email message to that effect.  Be sure to mention the full name of your\n  organization.  When our sponsors ask us 'what have you been doing', it would\n  be most handy to be able to come up with a nice long list of organizations\n  that are using code developed in the GRASP Lab.  Brownie points, as\n  it were.\n\nThe copyright notices as it appeared then was...\n\n  \/*\n   * Copyright 1989, 1990 by the University of Pennsylvania\n   *\n   * Permission to use, copy, and distribute for non-commercial purposes,\n   * is hereby granted without fee, providing that the above copyright\n   * notice appear in all copies and that both the copyright notice and this\n   * permission notice appear in supporting documentation.\n   *\n   * The software may be modified for your own purposes, but modified versions\n   * may not be distributed.\n   *\n   * This software is provided \"as is\" without any express or implied warranty.\n   *\/\n\nThe README file for xv 2.00 reads (in part) as follows...\n\n  Also, if you find XV to be nifty, useful, generally 'cool', and of\n  some value to you, your donation (not tax-deductable) would be greatly\n  appreciated.  $10 (U.S.) is probably a fine amount to donate.\n  Folks who donate $25 and up will receive a nice, bound copy of the XV Manual\n  printed on a spiffo 600-dpi laser printer.  It'll look lovely mounted over\n  your fireplace.\n\nWhich looks to me as a suggestion (see Julian's comment above).\n\nThe copyright notices as it appeared then was...\n\n  * Copyright 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992 by John Bradley and\n  *                       The University of Pennsylvania\n\nThe README for xv 3.00 reads (in part) as follows...\n\n  XV is shareware for PERSONAL USE only.  You may use XV for your own\n  amusement, and if you find it nifty, useful, generally cool, or of\n  some value to you, your non-deductable donation would be greatly\n  appreciated.  $25 is the suggested donation, though, of course,\n  larger donations are quite welcome.  Folks who donate $25 or more\n  can receive a printed, bound copy of the XV manual for no extra\n  charge.  If you want one, just ask.  BE SURE TO SPECIFY THE VERSION\n  OF XV THAT YOU ARE USING!\n\n  Commercial, government, and institutional users MUST register their\n  copies of XV, for the exceedingly REASONABLE price of just $25 per\n  workstation\/X terminal.  Site licenses are available for those who\n  wish to run XV on a large number of machines.  Contact the author\n  for more details.\n\nThe second paragraph to me says that universities MUST register and\npay (a potentially) large sum of money.\n\nThe copyright notices now read...\n\n  * Copyright 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993 by John Bradley\n\nWas this developed on upenn's time\/equipment?  What do they, and the\nGRASP lab mentioned above, have to say about all this?","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"As requested, here are some addresses of sources of bizarre religious satire\nand commentary...  Plus some bijou book reviewettes.\n\n---\n\nLoompanics Unlimited\nPO Box 1197\nPort Townsend, WA 98368. USA.\n\nPublishers of one of the most infamous mail-order book catalogue in the \nworld.  Anarchism, Discordianism, Libertarianism, cryogenics, money-making\n(legal and illegal), privacy and security, self-defense, and all kinds of\nother stuff that keeps Christians awake at nights.\n\n---\n\nThe Church of the SubGenius\nPO Box 140306\nDallas, TX 75214. USA.\n\nThe original end times church for post-human mutants; a high temple for \nscoffers, mockers and blasphemers.  Be one of the few to board the X-ist \nsaucers in 1998 and escape Space God JHVH-1's stark fist of removal.  J.R.\n\"Bob\" Dobbs, God of Sales, is waiting to take your money and ordain you. \nMagazines, sick audio cassettes, and assorted offensive cynisacreligious \nmaterial.  Periodic lists of addresses of Pink religious cults and contact\npoints for the world wierdo network.\n\nExpect a slow response to mail.  Only conspiracies are well-organized.  You\nwill eventually get what you pay for if you give them some slack.\n\n---\n\nCounter Productions\nPO Box 556\nLondon SE5 0RL\nUK\n\nA UK source of obscure books.  A wide-ranging selection; Surrealism, \nAnarchism, SubGenius, Discordianism, Robert Anton Wilson, Lovecraftian \nhorror, Cyberpunk, Forteana, political and social commentary, Wilhelm Reich,\nOrgone tech, obscure rock music, SF, and so on.  Send an SAE (and maybe a\nbribe, they need your money) and ask for a catalogue.  Tell them mathew sent\nyou.  I've ordered from these folks three or four times now, and they're\nabout as fast and efficient as you can expect from this sort of operation.\n\n---\n\nForbidden Planet\nVarious sites in the UK; in particular, along London's New Oxford Street, just \ndown the road from Tottenham Court Road tube station.\n\nMass market oddness.  SubGenius, Robert Anton Wilson, Loompanics, and of \ncourse huge quantities of SF.  Not a terribly good selection, but they're in\nthe high street.\n\n---\n\nREVIEWETTE: \"Loompanics' Greatest Hits\"\nISBN 1-55950-031-X (Loompanics)\n\nA selection of articles picked from the books in Loompanics' catalogue.  \nSubjects include:\n\n * Christian Dispensationalism -- how right-wing Christians encouraged \n   the Cold War\n * Satanic Child Abuse myths\n * Religion and censorship\n \nPlus lots of anarchist and libertarian stuff, situationism, computers and \nprivacy, and so on.  Guaranteed to contain at least one article that'll \noffend you -- like, for example, the interview with Bradley R. Smith, the \nHolocaust Revisionist.  A good sampling of stuff in a coffee table book.  (Of\ncourse, whether you want to leave this sort of stuff lying around on your\ncoffee table is another matter.)\n\nQUOTE:\n\n\"The fundamentalists leap up and down in apoplectic rage and joy.  Their \nworst fantasies are vindicated, and therefore (or so they like to think), \ntheir entire theology and socio-political agenda is too.  Meanwhile, teen-age\nmisanthropes and social misfits murder their enemies, classmates, families,\nfriends, even complete strangers, all because they read one of Anton LaVey's\ncooks or listened to one too many AC\/DC records.  The born-agains are ready\nto burn again, and not just books this time.\"\n\n---\n\nREVIEWETTE: \"The Book of the SubGenius\", J.R. Dobbs & the SubGenius Foundation\nISBN 0-671-63810-6 (Simon & Schuster)\n\nDescribed by 'Rolling Stone' as \"A sick masterpiece for those who can still\nlaugh at the fact that nothing is funny anymore.\"  The official Bible of the\nSubGenius Church, containing the sacred teachings of J.R. \"Bob\" Dobbs. \nInstant answers to everything; causes catalytic brain cell loss in seconds;\nthe secret of total slack; how to relax in the safety of your delusions and\npull the wool over your own eyes; nuclear doom and other things to laugh at.\n\nQUOTE:\n\n\"He has been known to answer questions concerning universal truths with \nscreams.  With suggestive silence.  By peeing down his pants leg.  His most\nfamous sermon was of cosmic simplicity: \"Bob\" standing on the stage with his\nhands in his pockets, smoking, looking around and saying nothing.  Heated\narguments still rage among the monks, often erupting into fatal duels, as\ntowhether the Master consulted his wristwatch during this divine period of\nGrace.\"\n\n--\n\nREVIEWETTE: \"High Weirdness by Mail\", Rev. Ivan Stang\nISBN 0-671-64260-X (Simon & Schuster)\n\nAn encyclopedia of wierd organizations you can contact by mail.  Space \nJesuses, Christian vs Christian, UFO contactees, New Age saps, Creationists,\nFlat Earthers, White Supremacist churches, plus (yawn) CSICOP, Sceptical\nEnquirer and stuff like that.  Not just a list of addresses, though, as each\nkook group is ruthlessly mocked and ridiculed with sarcastic glee.  If you\nlike alt.atheism's flame wars, this is the book for you.  Made me laugh until\nmy stomach ached.  Revised edition due some time in the next year or two.\n\nSAMPLE ENTRY:\n\n   Entertaining Demons Unawares\n   Southwest Radio Church\n   PO Box 1144\n   Oklahoma City, OK 73101\n\n   \"Your Watchman on the Wall.\"  Another flagellating, genuflecting \n   fundamentalist outfit.  Their booklet \"Entertaining Demons Unawares\"\n   exposes the Star Wars \/ E.T. \/ Dungeons & Dragons \/ Saturday morning\n   cartoon \/ Satanic connection in horrifying detail.  Left out Smurfs,\n   though! I especially liked the bit about Wonder Woman's Antichrist origins.\n   Keep in mind that once you send for anything from these people, you'll be\n   on their mailing list for life.\n\n---\n\nREVIEWETTE: \"The Abolition of Work\", Bob Black\nISBN 0-915179-41-5 (Loompanics)\n\nA selection of Bob Black's painfully witty and intelligent anarchist tracts\ncollected into book form.  If I were this good I'd be insufferable.(*) \nProbably the only thought-provoking political book that's fun to read.\n\nQUOTE:\n\n\"Babble about 'The wages of sin' serves to cover up 'the sin of wages'.  We\nwant rights, not rites -- sex, not sects.  Only Eros and Eris belong in our\npantheon.  Surely the Nazarene necrophile has had his revenge by now. \nRemember, pain is just God's way of hurting you.\"\n\n---\n\nREVIEWETTE: \"Principia Discordia\", Malaclypse the Younger\nISBN 1-55950-040-9 (Loompanics)\n\nThe infamous Discordian Bible, reprinted in its entirety and then some.  Yes,\nyou could FTP the online copy, but this one has all the pictures.  Explains\nabsolutely everything, including the Law of Fives, how to start a Discordian\nCabal, and instructions for preaching Discordianism to Christians. \n\nQUOTE:\n\n\"A Discordian is Required during his early Illumination to Go Off Alone & \nPartake Joyously of a Hot Dog on a Friday; this Devotive Caremony to \nRemonstrate against the popular Paganisms of the Day: of Catholic Christendom\n(no meat on Friday), of Judaism (no meat of Pork), of Hindic Peoples (no meat\nof Beef), of Buddhists (no meat of animal), and of Discordians (no Hot Dog\nBuns).\"\n\n---\n\nREVIEWETTE: \"Natural Law, or Don't Put a Rubber on Your Willy\",\n            Robert Anton Wilson\nISBN 0-915179-61-X (Loompanics)\n\nThe author of the Illuminatus trilogy rails against natural law, natural \nmorality, objective reality, and other pervasive myths.  Witty and \nthought-provoking work from someone who actually seems to know an argument\nfrom a hole in the ground.\n\nQUOTE:\n\n\"Since theological propositions are scientifically meaningless, those of us\nof pragmatic disposition simply won't buy such dubious merchandise. [...] \nMaybe -- remotely -- there might be something in such promotions, as there\nmight be something in the talking dogs and the stocks in Arabian tapioca\nmines that W.C. Fields once sold in his comedies, but we suspect that we\nrecognize a con game in operation.  At least, we want to hear the dog talk or\nsee the tapioca ore before we buy into such deals.\"\n\n---\n\nAll of the books mentioned above should be available from Counter Productions\nin the UK, or directly from the SubGenius Foundation or Loompanics Unlimited.\n\n\nmathew\n[ (*) What do you mean I am anyway? ]","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nMicrosoft has a division called Microsoft Consulting that does what\nIBM FEs (field engineers) do.\n\nHowever, neither company just up and sends consultants to client sites. \nBoth companies charge very high hourly rates for on-site consulting unless\nthe client has already paid an annual service contract.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Hey,\n\n   I am looking for C-algorithm, which decide,whether a 3D-Point is\n   inside a space which was defined by 8 x 3D-points.\n   With a space defined by 8 x 3D-points, I mean a space defined by\n   6 closed 3D meshes defined by 8 points. Like this :\n\n              _____\n             \/    \/|\n            \/____\/ |\n            |    | |\n            |    | \/\n            |____|\/\n\n\n   But in this simple example, the sides are parallel, but my problem,\n   the sides can be non parallel and the opposite sides must not have\n   the same size etc. Please mail me your informations !\n\n   Thanks for your great efforts\n\n      Oliver\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nIt is a factory testing slot.  The test rig connects to the connector and\nverifies proper board operation.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nMay I humbly suggest DESQview\/X? (Of course, I'm biased...)\n\nDESQview\/X is a multitasker for DOS computers, that uses a standard\nX11R4 server as it's display mechanism. DOS applications and Microsoft\nWindows standard mode are converted on-the-fly to X-protocol, allowing\nyou to display them, or any R4 compatable X-program from any machine\non the net to display to the PC's local display (or to any other display\non the net).\n\nFree tools are available for devloping X-applications for the DVX platform;\nmany X-programs have been ported between DVX and UNIX with little or\nno modifications. (Often, you only need to create a new makefile!)\n\nIf you're interested in more details, you can check out the usenet group\ncomp.os.msdos.desqview, or just email me directly at support@qdeck.com,\nand I'd be happy to fill you in.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Could someone repost the FAQs for this group, please?","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"*********************Word Perfect V2.1 for the Mac*********************\n\n\nI have a brand new copy of Word Perfect 2.1.  It is the latest release,   $100\nit has not been used and is still in shrink wrap.  It is a student\nversion so it is not upgradable to a newer version.  It sells for $250+\nI would like to get $100 for it.\n\nPlease e-mail to jbell@eecom.gatech.edu\n-- ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nThe aperture door will be shut during reboost. Using the shuttle\nmeans that there will be someone nearby to pry the door open again \nif it should stick.\n\n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nAssuming that the wax is causing hearing loss, congestion or popping\nin the ears, you can try some cautious tepid water irrigation with a\nbulb syringe, but it is awkward to do for oneself and may not work or\nmay even make things worse.  (My wife would disagree, she does it\nsuccessfully every six months or so.)  In any case DO NOT ATTEMPT\nANYTHING WITH Q-TIPS!!!\n\nMy experience has been that this is initially best handled by a\nEar\/Nose\/Throat person.  I say initially, because an ENT can evaluate\nwhether or not you might have success on your own with a little\ninstruction.\n\nI am not a physician (obviously, because I eschew the term\notolaryngologist); this posting is based only on personal experience.\n\n========================================================================\n\n<Usual Disclaimer>        \"The best is the enemy of the good\" - Voltaire\n\nLeon Traister (lmtra@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com)","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nNot totally true.  For the past year or two, the AP has been getting box\nscores from STATS, Inc.  The AP representative in the press box is actually\na STATS reporter ($25 dollars a game, but free parking.  And anybody can\ndo it.)  The box is downloaded to STATS in Chicago, some quick error \nchecking is done, and then STATS sends it to the AP.  I'm not sure where\nthe appreveiations come in hear.  I don't think it is at STATS's.  It may\njust be a space correction by the AP sports editor that day. \n\nWhile I'm mentioning STATS reporters, they are always looking for new\npeople.  Especially if you live in Cleveland or Pittsburgh, you're road\nto getting into the press box may be real short.  For more info, call \nSTATS (708) 676-3322, and ask about the reporter network.  It's a fun\nway to get paid for watching baseball games.\n\nEnd of public service announcement.\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"#|> #|> \n#|> #|> #This is quite different from saying \"Employing force on other people\n#|> #|> #is immoral, period.   Unfortunately, from time to time we are obliged\n#|> #|> #to do this immoral thing for reasons of self-preservation, and so\n#|> #|> #we have to bear the moral consequences of that.\n#|> #|> \n#|> #|> Since both statements, to all intents and purposes, say effectively\n#|> #|> the same thing, \n#|> #\n#|> #Are you serious?  Two statements, one of which says that use of force\n#|> #in the given situation is moral, and the other of which says it is\n#|> #not moral \"say effectively the same thing?\"\n#|> \n#|> Yes, when you tag on the \"Unfortunately, ...\", then to all intents and\n#|> purposes you are saying the same thing.\n#\n#Then delete the \"unfortunately\".   Now tell me that the two statement\n#say effectively the same thing.\n#\n#And to save everyone a couple of trips round this loop, please notice\n#that we are only obliged to use force to preserve self.   We can choose\n#*not* to preserve self, which is the point of pacifism.\n\nO.K., got you.  I concede your point, though the word \"obliged\" strongly\nimplies that one must sometimes use force.  A further rephrasing would\ngive you the distinction you mention, however.  If I have you right, a pacifist\nwould not even go on to say, \"unfortunately,etc.\"\n\n#|> #Would you say this of any two statements, one saying \"X is moral\" and\n#|> #the other saying \"X is immoral?\"   How would you decided when two \n#|> #statements \"X is moral\" \"X is immoral\" actually conflict, and when\n#|> #they \"say effectively the same thing\".\n#|> \n#|> What they prescribe that one should do is a pretty good indicator.\n#\n#And in this case they don't prescribe the same things, so.....\n\nYes, fair enough, though why confuse things by saying that \"one is \nsomtimes obliged\" if the real meaning is that \"one is never obliged\".\n\n#|> #|>                  and lead one to do precisely the same thing, then \n#|> #|> either both statements are doublespeak, or none.\n#|> #\n#|> #They might lead you to do the same thing, but the difference is what\n#|> #motivates pacifism so they obviously don't lead pacifists to to the\n#|> #same thing.\n#|> \n#|> That's not true.  You could formulate a pragmatic belief in minimum \n#|> force and still be a pacifist.  If the minimum is 0, great  - but one is\n#|> always trying to get as close to 0 force as possible under that belief.\n#|> Not the same as 'force is immoral, period', but still tending to pacifism.\n#\n#If you don't think the use of force is immoral, why minimise its use?\n\nIf you don't think that it is \"immoral, period.\".   ","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nIt depends on the mode you're using.  For a single 64-bit input block, a\none-bit error will have a 50 percent chance of corrupting each of the 64\noutput bits - in other words, it essentially turns the output block into\na random number.  If you're encrypting data in CBC mode, however, only the\none 64-bit block will be affected.  The next block, and all that follow it\nwill be decrypted properly.\n\nIt's a good idea to have some kind of error correction in your system if\ncorrupted bits are likely.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n: But how do we know that you're representing the REAL Christians?\n: ;-)\n\n: Bill, you're an asshole.  Get lost.\n\nMaddi,\n\nI see that you still can't grasp the obvious, is it because your are devious\nby nature, or can you only find fault with an argument by\nmisrepresenting it?\n\nI plainly said that I was stating the Christian position as I\nunderstand it, I did not say whether I agree with it since my point\nwas that the only flaws in that position are those atheists invent.\nI have never claimed to be an expert on anything and especially\nChristianity, but I have made it an object of pretty intense study\nover the years, so I feel qualified to discuss what its general\npropositions are.\n\nWhat offends you is that I have exposed the distortions and\nmisrepresentations of Christianity you contrive and then rail against,\n(which seems more like the classical strawman dodge than what I said)\nThis leaves you with nothing but to attack but me. As usual, you\navoid the larger issues by picking away at the insignificant stuff, why not\nfind one particular thing in my post that we can discuss, or can you\neven tell me what the issues are?","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I am looking for some fast polygon routines (Shaded or Texture\nMapped) in ASM (compile with MASM) or in Turbo Pascal (compile with\nTP6). It has to be able to run on a 286, but does not have to look\nsuper fast on a 286, but must look good on a 386.  \n\nIf anyone has any such code could you please mail it to me. Or tell\nme where it can be got. \n\nThanks in advance.\n\n\n--","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\t\t\t      ^^\n\t\t\t      ||\n\t\t           New Technology\n\n\t\t\t       || \n\t\t\t  Cycle eXperimental\n\t\t\t   \n\nGot this from a mechanic at Al Lamb's Honda!\n\nAT","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I believe I have the same monitor problem.  I have a system from Micron \nComputers with the 15\" Mag 1564 (the same monitor as the gateway) and am having\nthe same symptoms.\n\nWhat's this with removing the monitor extension cable?\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Is there a way I can save a snapshot of my screen to a file, under\nWindows?  (Similar to the way one can press CMD-SHIFT-3 on a Mac.)\n\nPlease email rather than posting.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nIs (was? :-( ) your HG zipper the nylon-coil type or the kind with\nmolded plastic teeth? I've only tried it on the coiled nylon type, and\nit doesn't take much squish to fix the problem. I found I was overdoing\nit (no broken parts, but the zipper was too hard to pull) so after\nspreading the zipper pull jaws again, I tried with Vice-Grips. No, not\nthe usual Grip Of Death technique, I adjusted the closed Vice-Grips so\nthey were snug on the zipper jaws, then released them and tightened the\nadjusting screw a bit. A couple of iterations and I had just the right\namount of Zipper Squish (TM).\n\n\nI've had two zipper pulls fail on my Aerostich suit (actually on the\nAccessory Ellipse), and they sent me a few replacement pulls free of\ncharge. I don't know what brand of zippers HG uses, but parts ARE\navailable for YKK's plastic zippers. Replacement was pretty simple, just\nbreak and remove the plastic knob at the top of the zipper that keeps\nthe pull from coming off the top end. Slide on the new zipper pull. Then\ncrimp on (Vice-Grips again!) a replacement zipper stop.\n\nYou might try fabric stores & such and see if they sell replacement\nparts.\n\nOh, for what it's worth, the coil-type zippers on the Eclipse tankbag\nare also YKK.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"What would be a good platform for some fairly basic video work of the\nfollowing nature:\n\nReading real video in for playbak in various app's 5-10 Minnutes in length\nBasic editing features for said video - rearange sequences, adding grapic\nslides from something like power point etc... \n\nI'm not to familiar with this stuff but would like a good system with crisp\nperformance.  It's for educational\/promotional things so the video quality\nshould be decent.\n\nI'm thinking Tempest or cyclone, Big drive,loads o ram, Floptical or 128Mb\noptical ?? - however, I'm not to sure of the various cards and software\nthats out there.\n\nPlease email any responses,\n\nThanks","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I am *almost* done porting XFree86 1.2 to a new piece of display\nhardware, but have run into a snag I think may be somewhat\ncommonplace, so I'm sending a net-feeler.\n\nI have a display that is a non-interlaced, memory mapped, 1-bit\n720x280 display.  The server's view of the world, (obtained via xwd |\nxwud), seems to be exactly what it should be.  However, the displayed\nversion of the framebuffer gives the impression that the server is\nusing scanlines that are too long.  After a bit of experimentation, it\nseems that the problem was that the server was padding the line out to\na word boundry, but the scanline size in the buffer is 90 bytes, which\nisn't exactly divisible by four.  Changing the following defines in\nmit\/server\/include\/servermd.h:\n\n----\n\n#define BITMAP_SCANLINE_PAD  32\n#define LOG2_BITMAP_PAD\t\t5\n#define LOG2_BYTES_PER_SCANLINE_PAD\t2\n\n---\n\nto:\n\n---\n\n#define BITMAP_SCANLINE_PAD  16\n#define LOG2_BITMAP_PAD\t\t4\n#define LOG2_BYTES_PER_SCANLINE_PAD\t2\n\n---\n\nWas not exactly the right solution.  How do I tell the server either\n(a) don't pad the scan lines at all ('cause this server is only being\nbuilt to run on this particular display), or to pad only to byte\nboundries?\n\nI'm using a customized version of XFree86v1.2, under Mach 3.0.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nI was at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Museum the other day and one of\ntheir VERY early winners was 4 valves per cylinder (and either front\nwheel drive or all wheel drive, I think front wheel drive) and that\nwas in 1914!\n\nSpiros","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nI've seen it as \"Colmn\" also.\n\nBlame the Associated Press.  After the official scorer balances the\nofficial score card, they copy it and give it to several diffent people. \nOne of those is a person from AP whose job it is to type it up (using a\ntemplate on a laptop) and transmit it to the AP offices in New York\n(Rockefeller Center) via the telephone.  The box scores are not checked\nand just rebroadcasted over AP's news delivery services.  If there are\ncorrections, those are issued later.  It is the person sitting in front\nof a laptop at Shea (or whereever) whose fault that is.  [NOTE: The AP\nputs out boxscores in three different formats with the one you see in\nmost newspapers being the first one]\n\nLast week they were in Denver.  Maybe the AP person in Denver did this\n(remember, they just started with MLB out there).  Check tomorrow's\npaper (4\/21) and see if the person who is doing it from Shea does the\nsame thing.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Are there any Montreal Canadiens fans out there who can let me the radio\nstation(s) which are playing the playoff series (including short wave radio\nfrequencies)?  Lewisburg, PA (home of Bucknell University) is definitely\nnot a hockey town! \n\nPlease send responses to malinich@bucknell.edu","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"(message posted by\/for roomate)\n\nBike is in good condition, is black, has 23000 miles, mag wheels, \n\nfront disk, rear drum, good front tire, new back tire, o-ring chain,\n\nnew battery, new starter and has that laid back look.  Bike runs\n\nreal strong with all four carbs giving their best.  Buyer gets a \n\ncover (all weather, lockable & heatproof), tank bag (non-magnetic - \n\ncan't take disks along otherwise!), cargo net & manual.  Bike has\n\norigional tool kit & matching Yamaha lock.\n\n\n\nAsking $1700 or Best Offer.  I would like to sell this soon, so please\n\nCALL (voice!)(ack!) with any questions!","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I have a few small cans of self defense spray for sale. I'm\nasking $12 for one can. It's about the size of a pen marker\nand works pretty good. (so I hear).\n                                    Thanks,","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nIf I may offer a constructive criticism, perhaps you should decide if you\nlove vehicles or the use they are put to. I, myself, think the F-86 is\na beautiful aircraft, but rest assured, I wouldn't even think of flying\nit in combat today. Most of us want access to space and judge vehicles\non how they perform.\n\n\nNot to this degree.\n\n\nWhy?\n\n\nYour wrong. The DC approach is very tollerent of failure. It also has\nthe advantage of far greater reliability do to its reusable nature (Shuttle\nisn't reusable, it's salvagable).\n\n\nThe flip over happens at a very low speed, not supersonic. If the DC-X\nshows the flip over works, it will work unless the laws of physics change.\n\n\nThe final DC-1 will have fully intact abort throughout the entire flight\nenvelop. Upon re-entry for example, it can loose about 80% of available\nthrust and still land safely.\n\n\nEverything can suffer from catastrophic failure but that's not the same\nthing. Shuttle simply isn't a fault tolerent design, SSTO is.\n\n\nYou don't put your patients in conditions where there is no way out. You\nwouldn't for example, give a patient a drug and not monitor them for\nharmful side effects would you?\n\n\nYou are very much in the minority. If the DC series fails to make orbit, it\nwill still be a very worthwhile effort. It will show us EXACTLY what we do\nneed to do to build SSTO.\n\n\nAgain, refering to the DC-1, it will provide fully intact abort theroughout\nthe flight envelop. Shuttle doesn't. DC is fault tollerent, Shuttle isn't.\n\n\nNot true. Build a passenger pallet (a fairly easy thing to do) and it will\ncarry passengers.\n\n\nI would suggest you talk to the DC-X crew themselves. Their original\nschedule had an operational DC-1 flying in 96.\n\n\nYour ignoring the dammage it does. Mannes space has a reputation for being\nunreliable and hugely expensive. Shuttle supporters only make it easy for\nopponents of manned space to kill it.\n\n\nThe only way to prove those things is to build it.\n\n  Allen\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nOK. It varies from state to state. It has to do with operating a vehicle\nwhile there is greater than a given percentage of alcohol in your\nbloodstream. Can we drop this now, and get back to asking Ed Green to\ngetabike?\n\n                  tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nNote that the two tables don't talk about the same population.  One is\nFortune 1000 companies favoring the platform as their primary\napplication platform, the other is sales (to everyone, not just\nFortune 1000).  Fortune 1000 companies don't do a lot of development\nwith the Mac as their top platform.  I would expect that that would\nexplain the discrepancy.\n\n-- \n\"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live\n in the real world.\"   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n         The BATF warrant was unsealed yesterday.\n\n         The entire operation was illegal from day ONE.\n\n\n       No authority for a \"no-knock\" raid.\n       No authority to use the Texas helicopters.\n       No authority to search for a \"drug lab\".  More ATF lies.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I am wondering if anyone has any opinions about the 2theMAX 4000S\nSVGA card.  I just purchased one due to a great price on it.  It boasts 16.7\nmillion \"true\" colors, with 1MB onboard.  If you know anything about this \ncard, please respond via mail, as this group tends to be overwhelming at\ntimes with posts.  Thanks in advance!!!\n \n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nThe biblical arguments against homosexuality are weak at best, yet\nChrist is quite clear about our obligations to the poor. How as \nChristians can we demand celibacy from homosexuals when we walk\nby homeless people and ignore the pleas for help? \nChrist is quite clear on our obligations to the poor.\n\nThought for the day:\n\nMAT 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but\nconsiderest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to\nthy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam\nis in thine own eye?  ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nI don't think Michael's response was anti-party but rather pro-environmental.\nI agree that you gotta let us Hogs out to roam every once in awhile.  Let's\nhope that next year Oatman will be better prepared and that we all pick up\nafter ourselves.\n\n\nWell, I for one thought you told a good story, even if you say you are an\na**hole!:-) We need more biker experiances written to news.  It's unfortunate\nthat you got flamed for telling it, but we all know this is a controversial\ngroup.\n\nAt any rate, keep up the good work and continue to post stories.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nA friend had a Ford Taunus (era early 60's) that *did* have a V4 in it.\n\nI lost a bet on it. I find it hard to believe there are no *recent* cars\nwith a V4 in them. Any *recent* ones?\n\nSpiros","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nIt has also apparently been excised from the second edition.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"There are basically three alternatives for Gaza:\n\n1.  To throw the Jews to the sea. that is basically to make them leave\n   the Middle-East and go back to where they came from (russia, Europe, USA, etc)\n2.  To throw the Gazans into the sea, in accordance with Yitzhak Rabin's\n     wish and that of many Zionists.\n3.  For Israelis and Palestinians to come to an honorable and fair (I\n   don't attempt to say just) settlement, which would allow each person\n   to live in dignity in his country in freedom and equality.\n\nI personnaly opt for the third alternative. How about you folks ?","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n(formerly Maya computer) advertised a DayStar 33 MHz PowerCache WITH\n68882 for $295!  Can you believe it?  I know prices would be falling,\nbut geeze!\n\nThought you might be interested...\n\nChuck\n\n\n-- \nChuck Williams ==> CS Intern ==> Pacific Northwest Laboratories","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Give the new Viewsonic 17 a good look.  I have seen it side by side with\nan old Viewsonic 7, a MAG 17, a Nanao 17\" (not the Trinitron one), and\na Sony OEM 17\" (which does have a Trinitron tube).  The new Viewsonic\nbeat all of them easily in terms of picture quality, and I think it is\nfar superior to the 16\" Sun that I am staring at now.  The place asks\n$1178 for it; I would have bought it if I had not just bought a 15\"\nNanao F340iw a week earlier :(","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n[many lines deleted]\n\nAh, here Freeman is being prejudiced (look it up and see what I mean Freeman).\nHere Freeman is pre-judging someone before he knows all of the facts.  Guess\nit can happen to the best (and in his case the worst) of us.\n\nFreeman thinks I am behind when actually I am quite on top of things.  The\npoint he seems to be missing now is that after a certain point accuracy can be\nvery tedious and ridiculous.  See Freeman's next post for an explanation.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nSounds pretty familiar.  I posted similar cries about last September when\nCaroline just entered daycare.  She was two, then, and have been with \ncontinuous colds since until last March.  As spring approaches, her colds\nslowed down.  Meanwhile we grew more and more relaxed about her colds.\nOnly once did the doctor diagnosed an ear infection and only twice she\nhad antibiotics.  (The other time was due to sinus infection, and I wished\nthat I did not give her that awful Septra.) \n\n\nThere are the 'net studies' -- that is, if you read this newsgroup often,\nthere will be a round of questions like this every month.  There might\nbe formal studies like that, but bear with my not so academic experience.\nOkay?\n\nGee, I bet 50\/50 you'll hear cases in all these catagories.\n\n\nI am pretty sure, an insulated child at home sicks less.  But, that child \nstill will face the world one day. \n\n\nThat's what I believe and comfort myself with.  Caroline will get more\nand more colds for sure before she learned not to stick her hand in other \nkid's mouth nor let other kids do the same.  Cold virus mutate easily.\nHowever, I hope that her immune system will be stronger to fight these\ndiseases, so she would be less severely affected.  Everytime she has a cold,\nwe make sure she blow her nose frequently and give her Dorcol or Dimetapp \nat night so she can have good rest (thanks to some suggestions from the net).\nThat's about all the care she needs from us.  I try very hard to keep her\noff antibiotics.  Twice her ped. gave me choice to decide whether she would\nhave antibiotics.  I waited just long enough (3-4 days) to see that she\nfought the illness off.  I do understand that you don't have much choice if\nthe child is in pain and\/or high fever. \n\n\nIf the child doesn't rely on antibiotics to fight off the sickness everytime,\nthen the child should be stronger.\n\nI'll leave this to expert.\n\nIf your child just entered daycare, I'm pretty sure the first 6 months will be\nthe hardest.  (Then, you get more used to it.  Boy, do I hate to see me typing\nthis sentence.  I recall when I read something like this last September, I said \nto myself, 'oh, sure.'  But, I do get used to it, now.)  However, I do hear \npeople say that it does get better after a year or two.  I am looking forward \nto a healthier next winter.  As it gets warmer, I hope you do get some break \nsoon.\n\nEat well, sleep well.  Try not to use antibiotics if not absolutely necessary.\n\nGood luck.\n\nWen-lin\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"You want to speed up ballgames?\n\n1.  Enforce the two minutes between innings.  As it is, many fields are\n    allowing THREE minutes between them.  Fifteen seconds before \n    TV commercials are gone to, Thirty or so before action begins upon\n    the return to the game.  Two minutes, last out to first pitch, or\n    a ball is called.\n\n2.  Don't grant time to batters just because they want it.  They may get\n    pissed at first, but they'll get in line, once anything the pitcher\n    throws while they're adjusting their wristbands is a strike.\n\n3.  Mandate a rule permitting only N seconds between pitches (the current\n    rule is too lenient), and then enforce it.  Fifteen seconds is more\n    than enough time.  If the pitch isn't released in 15, call it a ball,\n    and restart the clock.\n\nBaseball games take about 2:51 in the NL, and just a shade under 3 hours\nin the AL.  That's just too damn long.  I don't like to PLAY in 3 hour\ngames, much less WATCH a game for that long.  My butt falls asleep, and\nif I'm watching on TV, I'll channel surf between pitches, catching\ncolorized versions of Mr. Ed, Leave it to Beaver, and \"Those Wacky\nNieporents\" on Nick at Nite.\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"If re-boosting the HST by carrying it with a shuttle would not damage it,\nthen why couldn't HST be brought back to earth and the repair job done\nhere?\n\nIs it because two shuttle flights would be required, adding to the alredy\nhorrendous expense?\n\nGruss,\nDr Bruce Scott                             The deadliest bullshit is\nMax-Planck-Institut fuer Plasmaphysik       odorless and transparent\nbds at spl6n1.aug.ipp-garching.mpg.de                 -- W Gibson\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Looking for ORGANIZER program for Windows.\nCurrently have Lotus Organizer, not bad, but looking for better.\nShould have a calender \/ scheduler.\nShould have a to do list.\nNice additions : Address \/ Phone Book\n\t\t Diary\nPlease, any suggestions?  Shareware\/Public\/or Copyrighted...\nPlease EMAIL sthong@eniac.seas.upenn.edu\n--\n\n\n\n -------------------------------------------\n Steven Hong \n Email Address : sthong@eniac.seas.upenn.edu\n University of Pennsylvania\n Engineering Class of 1996","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nthis is an interesting point.  some people are not really buying the coverage,\nthey are buying 'peace of mind', marketing folks love selling that.  i suggest\nthat people *choose* to not engage their minds in peaceless worry rather than\nbuying that 'peace of mind'.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Please post your results, a close friend has this condition and\nhas asked these same questions. \n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Does anyone know of a source (book, file, etc.) of ALL the standard \nresource names in X11R5? A small description of what the resource\nIS would also be helpful, but not vital. Any help in which direction\nto go would be greatly appreciated.\n\nThanks. \nRobin Kinzy\n\n =================================================================\n =================================================================\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n[Anyway, your argument seems to be saying, \"If _I_ were\nGod, I certainly wouldn't do things that way; therefore, God doesn't do\nthings that way.\"]","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"In an attempt to do animation with POV I have created two little\nprograms. One is a C program that will perform a \"morph\" between\nany two points given the amount of frames for the morph. And then\nit will write the points, and the function (translate, rotate, etc.) out\nto a file. Then I have a Perl script that will read the list of functions\nand insert them into a .pov file at a given line. I had hoped this would\nlet me do simple animation. However, I have discovered that simply\nperforming incremental rotations on an object will not spin a stationary\nobject but will actually rotate the object about the axis. Now I know\nan easy way around this would be to first translate the object to the\norigin perform the rotation and then move it back but I know there \nmust be another way around this. I had thought perhaps it was because\nI had created objects at the origin and then translated them to a new\npoint and then done the rotation, which could cause this behavior. However\nthis occurs on objects that are not translated at all. Any help is \nappreciated.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Has anybody had a chance to find out how the new HP Laser Jet 4L behaves\nwith Windows ? ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nI'd use a secret (nope, obscure) cryptographic encoding to expand the \n30 bit serial number to a 64 bit block. The redundancy hereby introduced \ncan be used to detect tampered Clipper signals where some public enemy \nreplaced the L.E. block by random data. \n\nAnd of course the L.E. block would be used to initialise the encryption \nof the user data so that at the receiving end the correct L.E. block must \nbe processed in order to have any chance of getting the plaintext back. \n\nFor those of you who might want to mangle the L.E. block (e.g. by xor-ing \na constant pattern) on the transmission line and restore it before feeding \nit into the receiving Crippler Chip I would add further encrypted copies \nof this block (perhaps created by repeated application of the encryption \nalgorithm or so) at regular intervals during the transmission. If the \nreceiving chip detects a mismatch it must assume that the line is bad and \nit will cease to work; in your own interest you are protected from getting \nfaulty plaintext, you know -- it's just like a checksum for your own \nsafety ;-(. \n\nThe `monitoring agencies' won't have the famous black box which is needed \nfor actual decryption and will be kept by the FBI; but nothing prevents \nthem from using special boxes which will do the redundancy check for the \nserial number block and consistency checks on the embedded L.E. blocks \nwithin the transmission. These boxes will turn a red light on as soon as \nthey detect a bitstream that violates the correct protocol.\n\nSo don't anyone think that you can use the chip and fool L.E. about the \ntapping key -- I bet the developpers have provided much better checks \nthan those suggested above. Of course it's absolutely crucial that the \nalgorithms (and protocols) remain secret. Personally I doubt they will.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nThere is?  Then why does the documentation say:\n\n}Commercial, government, and institutional users MUST register their\n}copies of XV, for the exceedingly REASONABLE price of just $25 per\n}workstation\/X terminal.\n\nIt doesn't sound like a \"voluntary donation\" to me.\n\n--Dave","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"There are no MiniDocks with math coprocessors available right now and I am not\naware of any in development. Demand appears low for such a device right now,\nbut I'm sure some enterprising vendor would create one if there were sufficient\ndemand.\n\nLynn","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nThey certainly never CALLED themselves \"Palestinians\"\n\n\nComing from a soldier that can't surprise you.  Eitan is now in\ncharge of Tsomet, and there's a reason why he only gets a few votes\nevery year:  They only elect him because he is squeaky clean, no \ncorruption.\n\n\nI'm ignorant.  What's New Statesman?\n\nOh, those Crafty Jews again!  When will you learn, anti-Semite from \nIceland.\nLet's face it, in 1967, what other view was there?\n\nThe penniless could mean anyone, big guy.  Grow up.  I hate\nyour brackets.  \n\nThey gave them advance warning.  Not like the PLO, eh?\n\n\nYeah, yeah.  More brackets.  Am I too picky?\n\n\nBracket man.\nThat was the truth.  Were you there, Elias?\n\n\nSo the Holocaust never happened, eh Naziman Elias?\n\n\nLehi always warned in advance.  Not the PLO, buddy boy.\nIt was true!  Why should Jews be unemployed?  We say that in\nAmerica, Jerky.\n\nI firmly believe that today.\n\nYou don't understand metaphor, Naziman.\nAnd your quotes lead nowhere.  Not only do I doubt there actuality,\nbut I guarantee they were compiled by some neo-Nazi group.\n\nBut I love your pseudo-intellectual approach.  It makes you\nsound even dumber than your conclusions.\n\nEchad medinot leshtai amim.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
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{"text":"     (Eric Roush) writes...\n\n\n\n\nFunny.  I didn't realize Mr. Tanner brought up Bob Knepper v. Pam Postema\nin the first place.  Thought it was someone named Jacobs.\n\n\nWhy?  If a statement is truly idiotic, and is universally thought so,\nthe challenge is a waste of panting.  Further, challenges that have\nnothing (yes, nothing) to do with *baseball* are wasting others' time.\n\nYou got a problem with what Bob Knepper thinks?  Let's hear it, in\nsome sort of categorical manner.  (Actually, I question whether either\nKnepper or Postema aren't \"old news\" at this point, although what I\nhave read of Postema's book is interesting.)\n\n\nI agree this far.\n\n\nSez you.\n\n\nThat does not come out in what you say down the road, here.\n\n\nYo.  Even elementary school children have had access to our postings,\nalbeit in an edited form.  You want them to hear you talk like this?\nDon't you want people who come to this group to talk baseball to think\nyou like to do the same?  Or do you want them to think you're some \npolitically correct demagogue who's oh-so sensitive?  (Ho-hum.)\n\nPlus, you're here limiting free speech to \"some obscure newsgroup that\nI don't read.\"  What BS.  You got a problem with what Jacobs says, what\nKnepper thinks, all you have to do is defeat it with better ideas, more\nand better speech.  Yours is the easy way out.\n\nAs for Knepper: ever notice how sometimes these guys will say just about\nany darn thing that pops in their heads when a mike is shoved in front of\nthem?  You know that often the best copy for the news is the one that isn't\npre-prepared.  They know Knepper has controversial ideas about women, they\npop some question about Postema.  (An interesting related question would \nbe whether the two ever appeared in the same game.  Off the top of my head,\nI guess \"no.\"  If my guess is right, Knepper popped off about something that\nhad nothing to do with him -- and Postema gets a book for it, and he doesn't.)\n\n\nNow, why didn't *I* think of that?  :-)  :-)  :-)\n\nRG","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nWhoa, dude I don't see the jump you made.\n\t\tShe was blessed, I'll give you that much.\n\t\tWhat do you mean, she was placed \"beyond\" \n\n\n\n\n\nthe sanctification of normal humanity.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I have a following ACAPULCO\/CANCUN mini-vacation voucher for sale:\n\nVoucher  entitles the holder  to ONE  ROUNDTRIP airfare  and THREE DAYS\/TWO\nNIGHTS lodging for ONE or TWO adults  in ACAPULCO or CANCUN (your choice!),\nMexico. You have 15 MONTHS to use the voucher.\n\nAll reservations must be made 60  days in advance. Holiday and peak periods\nare excluded. Flights  generally depart mid-week,  usually on Tuesdays from\nmore than 70 major  airports. Additional air  transportation for additional\nperson will be made available.\n\n$50.00 FULLY REFUNDABLE  deposit is required. It  should be sent along with\nthe voucher to Casablanca Express by June 12, 1993. After that you will get\nthe reservation request form in which you have ONE YEAR to travel.\n\nThis package doesn't include meals, hotel taxes and gratuities.\n\nThe voucher is offered by Casablanca  Express, 6345 Balboa Blvd., Ste. 130,\nEncino, CA 91316.\n    \nApproximate  retail  value of  the  voucher is cited  to be  $1,100.00. The\nvoucher is fully transferable.\n\nBest offer takes it!","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Two URGENT requests:\n\n1. I need the latest update and description of MA bill S-897.  From\n   what I gather this bill takes the Hunter Safety Courses from\n   Law Enforcement and places them under Fish & Game control.\n\n2. Has someone out there compiled a list of all MA Senate & House\n   Bills under consideration?  If they have, please e-mail me\n   the list.  If not, is there a database I can access?\n\n\tThanx,\n\t\tYours in the fight,\n\t\tMike P.\n\nP.S. My wife and I thought Nancy B. was great on Street Stories.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Hi, friends,\n\nOur SPARC workstation is now equippied with a GT-accelerator. we want to use\nit to display stereo images. The accelerator has double buffers. How can we\naccess the buffers and switch between them ? With which functions can we do \nthat ? with functions from XGL, Phigs, Xlib or Xlib-extension ?\n\nYour help will be highly appreciated.\n\n\nYonglong Xu\n\nUni. of Hannover","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n        Looking at it from up here in the Frozen North, it looks like\n        you could do worse than get the NRA involved. They have a\n        kindred problem, a large number of voters, the right attitude,\n        and lots of funds.\n\n        From an ethical _or_ constitutional viewpoint, I haven't seen\n        a good argument for cryptographic rights that doesn't also\n        support the NRA position on guns (and vice-versa).\n\n        Cheers,\n                Marc\n\n---\n Marc Thibault                             | marc@tanda.isis.org\n Automation Architect                      | CIS:71441,2226\n R.R.1, Oxford Mills, Ontario, Canada      | NC FreeNet: aa185","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I need to add to your message.\nI have a major problem on my hands.  I have a Rodime 60+ (series\nRO3000T) external hard drive.  Rodime is out of business, \nand not writing any more drivers.  In particular, drivers \ncompatable with system 7.1.  After talking to Rodime, \nthey recommended the following Hard drive manufacturers \nand their driver software that were compatable:\n \nSCSI Hard drive manufacturer            Driver Software\n----------------------------            ----------------\nFWB                                     Hard disk tool kit\nFWB                                     Hard disk tool kit - personal\nLa Cie                                  Silverlining 5.2 or higher\nCasa Blanca Driver Software             Drive7\n \nIf anybody has experience with these driver software packages, please reply.\nIf there is shareware out there, I would like to get my hands on it.  I would\nmuch rather send a good developer the $25 or so, because most of the software\nI mentioned, if purchased, would cost $125, $49, $149, and $49 respectively.\n\nThanks in advance.\nBob Dohr, the Association\n\n_______________________________________________________________________________\n   Bringing a kind word and a helpful Spirit wherever we can, we are...\n-+- THE ASSOCIATION - a multi-line Macintosh BBS in Grand Blanc, Michigan!\n   Echoes from Fido, InterNet, FamilyNet, ICDMnet, K-12 - PLUS 2Gb files\n   at 313-695-6955 HST\/v.32bis.\n___________________________________________________________________ Testify 2.0\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"X\/Motif Gurus,\n\n\tHow do you handling scaling of X text while performing zooming \noperations  on figures? Is restricting user to select scalable fonts too \nrestrictive and  a absolute NO NO?\nAny books that have discussion on this topic?  Should have really taken more \nof those Computer Graphics courses but, now its too late -:( )\n\n\tI will summarize response.\nThanks in advance.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nlightly off track, but still relevant: why all the crying\nover the children?  I know we are hardwired to consider\nthe future of the race, and comapssionate people are concerned\nfor all children; but so what?\n\nFor the Branch Davidians, the options were to die or\nsubmit to Evil[tm] - and have their children's very\nsouls lost due to the brain washing of the Ungodly\nState.  (to put this in terms the 'average' netter might\n\tgrasp: they considered it the equivalent of putting\n\tJesse Helms in charge of NEA _and_ MTV.)\n\nAnd remembering that in 1983 the Supreme Court Struck Down\nFreedom of Conscience (IRS vs Bob Jones et al.):\n\nWho's next?\n\nIs your religion \/ belief system Government Approved?\n\nJim JOnes had won numerous awards from the state before\nhe moved to Guiana?  Obviously state regulation would have\nstopped that tragedy too.\n\n\nchus\npyotr\n\np.s. The Mormons weren't always Saints, but they did go a long\nway to be left alone. Always a ThoughtCrime in any ProperState.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Hi,\nI have a lots of problems using XView (libraries Release 3.2) in order to\ndo the following:\n+ I want to create a MODAL Dialog which block the program flow\n  (a syncronous dialog, ala Macintosh) , as the Notice Panel\n  does, but with Text Item, List Item, and other XView objects.\n+ The MODAL Dialog also must allows the Timer to be called (why\n  Notice doesn't do that?).\n \nThe problems are:\n- Using the \"xv_window_loop\" functions most XView objects dont work\n  (as the List Item), and the timers aren't called.\n \n- With the \"notify_dispatch\" explicit I have problem because:\n  \"...never attempt to do direct dispaching from within a callback\n  routine...\" as say the \"XView Programming Manual (Third Edition)\"\n  on page 486 (uhm... I know this number!!! :->).\n  But I need to do dispatching just inside a callback routine!\n \nHelp me, please!!!\n \nThanks in advance,\n--- Giovanni\n \nP.S. Please, send replay directly to my address belove (I haven't\ndirect access to Internet).","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"After reading this story about St. Maria Goretti (posted two weeks\nago), I am a bit confused.  While it is clear that her daily\nlife is one of probity and sanctity, I am afraid I don't quite\nunderstand the final episode of her life.  I am reading it \ncorrectly, she (and the Church apparently) felt that being raped\nwas a sin on _her_ part, one so perfidious that she would rather\ndie than commit it.  If this is the case I'm afraid that I \ndisagree rather strongly.\n\nCan anyone out there explain this one to me?\n\nYours in Christ,","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nYou obviously haven't read his postings clearly.\n\n\nIsraelophiles?  Is this anything like Israelists?  You're treading on\nthin ice here.\n\n\nNow, you're falling through the ice.  Barfie!  We have a playmate for\nyou! \n\n\nThere is a difference between guerrilla warfare and terrorism.\nThe former primarily targets enemy soldiers.  The latter primarily\ntargets civilians, and not necessarily enemy civilans, at that.\n\n\nInnocent British soldiers?  Like innocent Iraqi soldiers?\nTHe British were EXECUTING Jewish fighters in what was soon to become\nthe recognized Jewish homeland.  The British - to their eternal shame\nand damnation - were sending shiploads of Jewish refugees, civilians,\nback to Europe to be taken care of by Hitler.\n\nBy comparison, Palestinean \"fighters\" primarily target tourists,\nschoolchildren, babies, worshippers, shoppers, movie-goers and other\nsuch threatening people.  Early Zionist fighters did no such things.\n\nYour comparison is ignorant and odious.\n\n\nDoes it bug you that the \"Israelites\" (they used to be\nIsraelophiles...) happen to be right?\n\n\nAre you kidding?  Palestinean Arabs - who comprise a tiny proportion \nof the world's refugee population, who have almost no justifiable\nclaim to the territory that they desire, who have acted as criminals\nin the international community for decades - are being treated like\nthe most aggrieved and deserving minority in existence, even after\ntheir ignominious support for Saddam in Desert Storm.  How many other\nworld \"leaders\" have addressed the UN with a machine-gun in hand,\nreceiving a standing ovation?\n\n\nYou are now parrotting some of the weakest arguments of the\nterrorists' apologists.  Congratulations.\n\n\nGee, that's a nice name.  Can I call you Pissed?\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nThis is an interesting point.  As a VERY COARSE rule of thumb, you can\nfigure that the final price of a product is 3 to 5 times the Cost Of Goods.\n(The exact multiplier depends largely on economies of scale: Products that\nsell tens of millions of units\/year will be at the low end, those that sell\nthousands of units\/year will be at the high end.  I suspect cellular phones\nare in the middle).  This implies that adding a $25 chip would increase the\ncost of the phone by approx $100, or about 25% - 30%.\n\nI don't think you'll get a lot of consumer support for this.\n\n\n-tony","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"         ...........   more deleted\n\n\nYou need to start the X-server with -indirect its_name.\n\nIf you start it with -indirect localhost, it use the loopback adress as\nit's adress. So when it try to contact another host, this one try to answer\non its loopback adress. Not good.\n\nRemember that every machine has the adress 127.0.0.1 on the loopback network.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Does anyone have any information or better, first-hand experience,\nof the new Epson bubblejet printer - Stylus 800??\n\nI'm particularly interested in hearing how well it works under Windows;\nI presume that a special printer driver is required - is it supplied\nas standard? Is it able to print everything that a standard Postscript\nlaserprinter could??\n\nMany thanks for any replies - George ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I was a bit surprised that the manual for my Fluke-87 multimeter\nsuggests applying WD-40 to the test lead sockets, especially the\ncurrent range socket.  The intention is to prevent the\ntest-lead-is-in-the-wrong-scocket beeper from going off when there\nis no test lead in that socket.\n\nThe manual is a bit vague, but I think I'd apply the WD-40 to a\nswab, then wipe the socket instead of spaying the stuff directly\nfrom the can.\n\nSpeaking of said meters:  I compared the 87 against the 8060A that\nI've had on my bench for almost 11 years.  It has been five years\nsince the 8060A has been calibrated.  On the DC scale, they agree\nwithin .01 mV.  AC scale is within about .1 mV.  The 87 would be\njust about the perfect portable meter if it had the dB scale; I\ndidn't feel it was worth the extra $100 for a second 8060 since I\ndon't use dB all that much in my work.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"My recollection of History\/Documentary books is slitely different.\nIt is my understanding that Croats were allies of Germany during\nWWII, while Serbs had sided with Russia.  As a result Serbs did\ntake a beating from Croats (NOT Bosnian Moslems) while Germany\nhad the upper hand.\n\nEven today, Russians consider\/call Serbs as their Slovac brothers.\nThis is one of the issues involved in the U.N.'s lack of active\nintervention against Serbs.\n\nAs for the Bosnian Moslems, I have not heard of any alliance with\nGermany or Russia in recent history.  Therefore, I am curious\nif they did or were able to treat other parties in this conflict\nwith same brutallity (as they are getting it today) in the past\nhistory.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nYou can call MacUser magazine number, i guess they will give you the info!\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Does anyone know if any of Currier and Ives etchings have been digitized for \nuse in desktop publishing?  I am particularly interested in their riverboat\nscenes.  Does anyone know who can get me (for a fee) a good, digitized river-\nboat image?\n\nThank you,\n\nDavid Dumas\n--\nDavid Dumas\ndmd2@Isis.MsState.Edu\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Isn't he the guy who took shots at Jagr and Ulf in a recent Sports\nIllustrated? I'm not familiar with Cherry's work, and maybe he's known\nfor sarcasm, but I'd have to wonder about him doing commentary for the Pens.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"$Id: open-look-programs.faq,v 1.17 93\/03\/21 17:17:55 lee Exp Locker: lee $\n\nContents:\n\tSubject: Applications: Application Builders\n\tSubject: Applications: Graphing Tools\n\tSubject: Applications: Utilities\n\tSubject: Applications: Other\n\tSubject: Tools: Terminal Emulators\n\tSubject: Other Commercial Applications\n\tSubject: Applications: toolkit Extensions\n\tSubject: OpenWindows 3 Ports\n\tSubject: XView 3 Ports\n\tSubject: XView 2 Ports\n\tSubject: Games (free and commercial)\n\n\nSubject: Applications: Application Builders\n\nCommercial: DevGuide 3.0\nContact: SunPICS\n    lets you use Drag and Drop to create an OPEN LOOK application with\n    XView, OLIT, UIT or TNT.  Very easy to use.\n\nFree: dirt\n    there _might_ be an OLIT port of this UI builder.\n\nCommercial: ExoCode\nContact: Expert Object\n    one of the first third-party GUI builders to support OPEN LOOK,\n    using the XView toolkit.  It was reviewed in SunExpert magazine\n    in 1990.\n\nCommercial: ObjectBuilder\nContact: ParcPlace, Debra Frances debra@ParcPlace.COM, +1 303 440 9991\n    uib is a user interface builder which supports building applications\n    that support both OPEN LOOK and Motif.\tIt generates code for\n    ParcPlace's OI C++ toolkit and can make use of user created\n    subclasses.  Note: `OI' can also display an OSF\/Motif GUI at runtime.\n\nFree: wcl\n    Uses X resources to specify an Xt widget hierarchy and actions to\n    user-defined callbacks.  uses OLIT, Xt or Motif.\n\nCommercial: XVT\nContact: XVT Systems (+1 303-443-4223)\n    Lets you write code to a common subset of OPEN LOOK, Motif, Microsoft\n    Windows, the Macintosh GUI, and even terminals (using curses).  You buy\n    an XVT toolkit for each environment.\n\n\nSubject: Applications: Graphing Tools\n\nFree: dstool\n    XView-based program that plots Lorenz Attractors and other chaotic things\n    in real time.  Also includes a mathematical expression interpreter.\n    ftp: macomb.tn.cornell.edu\n\nFree: ACE\/gr --  graph and analysis program, xvgr\nFtp: ftp.ccalmr.ogi.edu [129.95.72.34]; xvgr-2.09.tar.Z in \/CCALMR\/pub\/acegr\n    Handles x-y scatterplots, lineplots, bargraphs, FFT analysis, running\n    averages, polynomial fits, etc.\n\nFree: robot - a scientific graph plotting and data analysis tool \nContact: Robin Corbet <corbet@astro.psu.edu>\nDescription:\n    Graph plotting in various styles & axes; Data manipulation - arithmetic,\n    functions, smoothing, folding, sorting; Fitting to data using Gaussians,\n    polynomials, Lorentzians, and\/or user defined functions; Annotation of\n    graphs; log files;  Commands with loops etc.; Colour; PostScript output.\nFtp: astrod.astro.psu.edu (128.118.147.28) in pub\/astrod\nFtp: files: robotx0.35.tar.Z - everything\nFtp: files: RobotManual.ps.Z - just the documentation.\nFtp: files: robot.sun4.Z  - binary built on a SPARCstation.\nRequirements:\n    Robot is XView based. User interface portions of code are written in\n    'C'. Data manipulation code is written in FORTRAN. Hence a FORTRAN\n    compiler is also required or the public domain f2c package.\n    Alternatively, a SPARC binary is available by anonymous ftp.\n\nSubject: Applications: Utilities\n\nFree: boss\nDescription:\n    An OPEN LOOK UI to the Casio BOSS scheduler\n\nFree: props\nFtp: export.lcs.mit.edu \/pub\/R5untarred\/contrib\/lib\/xview3\/clients\/props\/*\nDescription:\n    This is the OpenWindows properties editor, that appears when you choose\n    the Properties... item from the WorkSpace menu.\n\nFree: contool\nFtp: from export.lcs.mit.edu\nDescription:\n    a special-purpose console-window that can filter out or take special\n    action on specified console messages; written by Chuck Musciano.\nRequirements: XView\n\nFree: faces\nDescription:\n    displays pictures of people who have sent you electronic mail.\n    Violates the Data Protection Act in the U.K.\n\nSubject: Applications: Other\n\n\nCommercial: Bimail 400\nContact: BIM (+32-2-759.59.25) pge@sunbim.be\nX.400-address: C=be;A=RTT;P=BIM;O=Horizon;S=Geurts;G=Patrick\nNotes:\n    Bimail is a complete X.400 electronic mail system.  It consists\n    in a user interface which gives access to all X.400 services\n    with a consistent look and feel, a message transfer agent (MTA) system\n    which can transfer messages over X.25, TP.4 and TCP\/IP (using RFC 1006).\n    A gateway to SMTP mail is also available.\n\nFree: calentool\nDescription:\n    a day\/week\/month\/year at-a-glance calendar and almanac.\nFtp: export.lcs.mit.edu:\/contrib\/calentool2.2Xp1.tar.Z\nContact: Bill Randle, Tektronix, Inc. <billr@saab.CNA.TEK.COM>\n\nFree: emacstool\nDescription:\n    a SunView program that was converted to XView, and is included with the\nGNU emacs distribution.\n\nFree: Genix\nContact: Ian Darwin <ian@sq.com>\n    A genealogy program, written in C using Guide.\n    Incomplete as of Jan '93; inquire for details.\n\nFree: WorkMan - Audio CD player for X11 (Sun, Ultrix)\nRequirements: XView libraries\nFtp: Ultrix binary: ftp.hyperion.com in \/WorkMan\nFtp: ftp.ucsc.edu in \"incoming\" - database of over 750 CDs\nContact: koreth@hyperion.com (Steven Grimm)\n\nFree: pan - Postit notes\n\nFree: WAIS\nFtp: sunsite.unc.edu\nDescription:\n    Networked, distributed text-retrieval system.  OLIT-based front end.\nNotes:\n    You might to need to add -lce to the Makefile.\n\nFree: xrolo - Rolodex card index\/address book\n\nFree: xv_display\nDescription:\n    An XView program for showing a text file, like more(1).\n\nCommercial:  SearchIt 1.0\nContact: SunSoft or SunExpress \n    US: 1-800-873-7869;  UK: 0800 89 88 88\n    Germany: 01 30 81 61 91;  France: 05 90 61 57\nPlatforms: SPARC, Solaris 1.x\nPrice: $249\nNotes:\n    SearchIt is a full text search and retrieval application designed to\n    improve individual and group productivity.  It makes an index to files\n    and can later retrieve documents by words or phrases, ranking the results\n    in relevance order.\n\nCommercial: ShowMe\nContact: SunSoft\nNotes:\n    Conferencing software that lets multiple connected users share the same\n    drawing screen, with bitmap capture and moveable pointer.\nRequirements:\n    You can only run one ShowMe per computer, so you have to have a CPU per\n    conference member.\n\nFree: xvman - Man Pages viewer\n\nFree: xvtdl - ToDo List manager\nFtp: export.lcs.mit.edu \/contrib\/xvtdl-4.0.tar.Z, \/contrib\/xvtdl-4.0-README\nRequirements: XView libraries\nContact: Mike Jipping jipping@cs.hope.edu  (BITNET: JIPPING@HOPE)\nOrganisation: Hope College Department of Computer Science\n     \nFree: name_finder\nContact: richard.elling@eng.auburn.edu     +1 (205) 844-2280\nFtp: ftp.eng.auburn.edu [131.204.10.91] pub\/name_finder1.2.tar.Z.\nPatches: pub\/name_finder1.2.compile.patch1.\nRequirements: OpenWindows 3.0, C++ 2.1 or greater to recompile\nDescription:\n    name_finder was orginally designed as a replacement for the name finder\n    missing from the OpenWindows Version 3.0 mailtool.  It has since grown\n    into a tool for several electronic mail related activities including:\n    interaction with local ListServ robots for handling mail lists,\n    requesting Full.Name style mail aliases from your local PostMaster, and\n    providing mailbox status information ala finger(1).\n\n    name_finder is written in C++ (cfront 2.1) using gxv++ version 1.1.\n    If you don't have access to a C++ compiler, a precompiled sparc\n    executable is included in the distribution.\n\nFree: bibcard\tinterface for BiBTeX databases\nRequirements: XView\nFtp: iamsun.unibe.ch [130.92.64.10] in \/X11\/Bibcard-1.11.tar.Z\nFtp: \tincludes source and SPARC binary for SunOS 4.1.1.\nVersion: 1.11\nDescription:\n    GUI for mantaining bibliography databases which can be used with\n    LaTeX, TeX and FrameMaker\n\n\nFree: moxftp -- interface to ftp.\nFtp: ftp.chpc.utexas.edu as file \/packages\/X\/xftp.1.1.tar.Z.\nContact: Bill Jones jones@chpc.utexas.edu\nRequirements: X11, OLIT or Motif or Athena widgets\nNotes:\n    formerly called xftp.\n    compiles under (at least) Ultrix, AIX 3.1.5, AIX 3.2, Convex OS, SunOS,\n    Unicos 6.1.4, and IRIX.  Uses OLIT.\n    BUG: can also use OSF\/Motif and Athena widgets.\n\n\nFree: olvwm -- OPEN LOOK Virtual Window Manager\ncontact: Scott Oaks\nFtp: export.lcs.mit.edu in the contrib directory\nPatches: there are two patches\nRequirements: XView 3\nDescription:\n    Olvwm is a version of olwm that manages a `virtual desktop' (hence the\n    `v' in its name).  It shows a little map on the screen, with the\n    currently displayed area represented by a little rectangle.\t You can\n    move around by dragging the rectangle or with the arrow keys.  This\n    lets you run several clients (applications) and move the display around\n    from one to the other.  Olvwm was derived from the OpenWindows 3.0 olwm.\n\nFree: ftptool -- OPEN LOOK front-end to ftp\nRequirements: XView\nFtp: export.lcs.mit.edu in \/contrib\n\nFree: Hyperlook\nContact: The Turing Institute\nRequirements: OpenWindows 3 (running the xnews server, not X11)\n    Hypertext package written entirely in NeWS.  Runtime from turing.com\n    in \/pub or ftp.uu.net (graphics\/NeWS\/HyperLook1.5-runtime.tar.Z)\n\nMaestro (ftp from sioux.stanford.edu)\n    Multimedia authoring tools, including support for sound, text & video.\nxvnews (ftp from export.lcs.mit.edu)\n    An xview-based newsreader for netnews.\n\nFree: xvttool\nFtp: cs.dal.ca:\/pub\/comp.archives\nFtp: nuri.inria.fr:\/X\/contrib\/clients\nFtp: lth.se:\/pub\/netnews\/alt.sources\/volume92\/dec\/xvttool*.Z\nFtp: src.doc.ic.ac.uk:\/usenet\/comp.archives\/x11\/terminal\/xvttool\nDescription:\n    A vt100\/102 emulator, in both XView and SunView versions.  Includes\n    buttons for the PF keys, etc.\n\nSubject: PostScript and Graphics Viewers\n\nCommercial: pageview - PostScript previewer\nContact: Included in OpenWindows as part of DeskSet.\nNotes:\n    Type 1 support only in OpenWindows 3.0.1 under Solaris 2.1.\n    Antialiasing support - with colour OpenWindows 3 try pageview -aa -dpi 150\n    Note that pageview uses the X11\/NeWS server to interpret the PostScript,\n    and thus won't run on an X terminal or other non-OpenWindows server.\n    It's *not* enough to be runing an OPEN LOOK UI [tm] window manager such\n    as olwm.\n\nCommercial: xps - PostScript program editor and previewer\nContact: included with OpenWindows 2.0 under demo and share\/src\nNotes:\n    Only runs under OpenWindows 2.\n\nCommercial: psh\nContact: included with OpenWindows\n\tsimple interface to NeWS and the OpenWindows server\n\nFree: ralpage\nFtp: export.lcs.mit.edu in contrib\/clients\nNotes:\n    Crispin Goswell's PostScript interpreter, much hacked.\n    Not OPEN LOOK compliant.  No Type 1 font support.\n    There are other versions of this called `xps', `postscript', etc.;\n    don't confuse this `xps' with the one mentioned above.\n\nFree: ghostscript\n(from the Free Software Foundation)\n    Supports Type 1 fonts.  Not OPEN LOOK based.\n\n\nSubject: Tools: Terminal Emulators\n\nFree: cmdtool, shelltool\nRequirements: XView 3 toolkit\nNotes:\n    These are included in the XView source distribution from\n    export.lcs.mit.edu in \/contrib; they're also included with Sun's\n    OpenWindows.\n\nCommercial: SwitchTerm\nContact: Micro Resources Inc., Columnbus, Ohio, USA, +1 614 766-2335\nNotes:\n    A version of Xterm with an OPEN LOOK UI, print interface,\n    ANSI X3.64 colour escape sequences, etc.\n\nCommercial: IsoTerm\nContact: The Bristol Group Ltd., +1 415 925-9250 and (49) 6105-2945 (Germany)\nRequirements: OpenWindows 3 (??)\nOther Products: IsoTeX, IsoFax, Power Base\nNotes:\n    An OLIT-based terminal emulator.  I couldn't get the demo version to\n    give me a shell prompt, although it did look like it was a pretty fll\n    vt340 emulation, with double-height characters, colour, fonts, grahics\n    and so forth.\n    With the Union Flag (the British flag) as their logo I somehow expected\n    an English address, perhaps in Bristol...\n\nSubject: Other Commercial Applications\n\n    Contact SunSoft (or Sun) and ask for the Catalyst OPEN LOOK guide,\n    which lists over 200 pages of applications.\n\n    You can also get the free CDWare CD\/ROM, which contains demo versions\n    of several popular OPEN LOOK UI applications.  Once you've done this,\n    you can often simply contact the vendor concerned to have the license\n    upgraded from demo, and receive the full product documentation.\n\n\nProduct Name: Author\/Editor - SGML-based text editor\/word processor\nCompany Name: SoftQuad Inc., +1 416 239 4801, mail@sq.com\nDescription:\n    Word processor or text editor that manipulates ISO 8879 SGML documents.\nInterfaces: OPEN LOOK UI (XView), OSF\/Motif, Mac, MS\/Windows\n \n\nSubject: Applications: toolkit Extensions\n\n\nProduct Name:     Xtra XWidgets\nCompany Name:     Graphical Software Technology\nE-Mail:           info@gst.com\nPhone:            310-328-9338;    Fax: 310-376-6224\nKeywords:         graphics, library, widgets, spreadsheet, help\nInterfaces:       OPEN LOOK, Motif\nPlatforms:        SPARC, HP9000s300\/400\/700, IBM RS6000, Interactive 386\nRequirements:     X11, Xt, Xol (or Xm) libraries and headers; X11\nPrice:            $795\/single user, $3000\/network, $5000\/source\nSupport-Price:    $400\/30 calls\nSource-Available: yes\nDescription:\n    The Xtra XWidget library contains a set of widgets that are subclassed\n    from and compatible with either OLIT or Motif widgets.  The library\n    includes widgets that implement the following: Spreadsheet, Bar Graph,\n    Stacked Bar Graph, Line Graph, Pie Chart, XY Plot, Hypertext, Hypertext\n    based Help System, and Data Entry Form.  Widgets have been successfully\n    integrated with both TeleUSE from Telesoft and Builder Xcessory from\n    ICS.  A free demo is available for any of the supported platforms.\n\nProduct Name:     XRT\/Graph\nCompany Name:     KL Group\nE-mail: sun.com!suncan!klg!info, info@klg.com\nPhone: +1 416 594-1026\nDescription:\n    XRT\/graph is a graph object that extends the XView toolkit;  There are\n    also Xt versions for OLIT and Motif.  XRT\/graph supports line plots,\n    scatter-plots, strip-charts, bar charts, stacking bar charts, pie charts\n    and filled-area charts, singly and in combination.  It supports real-time\n    updates, true Postscript output, and intelligent user feedback.  It comes\n    with Builder, a graph prototyping tool, which supports code & resource\n    file generation.  A free demo (vmgraph) is available.\n    There are free integration kits for UIM\/X, TeleUSE, and Builder Xcessory\n    (others in progress).\nAvailability:\n    XRT\/graph for XView and OLIT are only available on SPARC.\n    XRT\/graph for Motif is available on a dozen or so platforms.\n\n\nFree: Slingshot XView extension\n\n    Slingshot provides rectangles (like the Xt Intrinsics' RectObj gadget),\n    drag-and-drop support, images, icons and text, trees, lines, arrows...\n\n    Get it by ftp from export.lcs.mit.edu, in \/contrib\/SlingShot2.0.tar.Z\n    (remember to use binary mode in ftp!).\n    You can also get it by sending mail to archive-server@gazooch.eng.sun.com\n    with the body of each message containing a line like\n\tsend sspkg2.0 Part01 Part02\n    going up to\n\tsend sspkg2.0 Part17 Part18\n\tsend sspkg2.0 DocPart01 DocPart02 DocPart03\n\tsend sspkg2.0 DocPart04 DocPart05 DocPart06\n    You can ask for one file at a time to reduce the impact on intermediate\n    mail sites.\t Ask the mail server for help with the Subject line: \"help\".\n    A human can be reached at archive-manager@gazooch.eng.sun.com.\n    Add a line in the message\n\tpath <your-mail-address>\n    if you think the normal automatic reply address might not work.\n\n\nAda bindings for XView\n    Sun Ada 1.1 includes among other things an Ada Source Code Generator\n    for Devguide.  It uses the Verdix XView Ada bindings.\n    It does not yet [July 1992] support gfm (the guide file manager).\n\nC++ Bindings for XView\n\nQualix's XV++.\n\nUIT\n\n\nSubject: OpenWindows 3 Ports\n\n    Sun: SPARC, SunOS 4.1\n    Sun: SPARC, Solaris 2 (actually 3.0.1?)\n    others: none so far...\n\nThere are said (by Sun) to be two or three ports of OpenWindows either\navailable now or in progress.  Contact Anthony Flynn at Open Vistas\nInternational (anthony@ovi.com) for more information.  (originally they\nsaid 35, but perhaps they meant 3.5)\n\nOpenWindows source is available - commercially, it costs about $5,000 for\nthe server, including TypeScaler and the toolkits; deskset (filemgr etc) is\nanother $25,000; ToolTalk is $40,000 or so.\n\n\nSubject: XView 3 Ports\n\nWhat: XView 3\nSystem: Apple A\/UX\nPorter: lmj@uncompaghre.jax.org (Lou Jones)\nFtp: encyclo.jax.org\nNotes:\n    The libraries and utilities (olwm, cmdtool, etc) are available for\n    anonymous ftp from encyclo.jax.org. I used gcc 2.1 to compile the\n    sources. If there is enough interest, I can make the diffs\n    available.\n\nSystem: Concurrent 7000 (68040 based)\nPorter: sinan@Mtesol.boeing.com (Sinan Karasu)\n\nSystem: DECStation\/Ultrix\nPorter: dscott@ittc.wec.com (Dave Scott)\nFtp: media-lab.media.mit.edu:~ftp\/xview3-ultrix.4.2-mips.tar.Z\nNotes:\n    Let me stress that this is *not* fully tested, but seems to work\n    pretty well.  Please let me know about any problems you find.\n    Problems I already know about:\n\tLarge buttons under *any* non-Sun X server (non-xnews; i.e. any\n\tstandard MIT X11R[45] server) have the bottom of the button\n\tchopped off.  We're working on this one. :-)\n    XView 3 is also available on the DEC Freeware CD, from DECUS.\n[actually this seems *not* to be Dave Scott's port; please accept my apologies\n for listing this incorrectly.  A correct entry will appear as soon as I get\n the necessary information.  -- Lee]\n\nSystem: HP 720\nPorter: (?)\nFtp: tesla.ucd.ie [137.43.24.44], \/pub\nNotes:\n    Includes HP 720 build, HP XView patch file, Xvgr.\n\nSystem: HP9000\/300 series\nPorter: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown)\n\nSystem: HP9000\/7XX series\nFtp: ftp.csc.liv.ac.uk (138.253.42.172) hpux\/X11\/xview-3.part[123].tar.Z\n\nSystem: Intel (SysVR4\/i386)\nPorter: dawes@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Dawes)\nFtp: ftp.physics.su.oz.au, suphys.physics.su.oz.au  \/Esix_4\/x11r5 hierarchy\nNotes:\n    His patches were for Esix 4.0.3 but should work on DELL, ISC and Intel\n    SVR4 with no worries. The files are README.xview3 and xview3.diff.Z.\nSee Also: linux\n\nSystem: IBM RS\/6000\nPorter: tmcconne@sedona.intel.com (Tom McConnell)\nCompiler: bsdcc\nFtp: export.lcs.mit.edu:contrib\/xview3\/Fixes\/xview3_rs6k_unofficial.patch.Z\nNotes:\n    There is still a problem with tty support for the RS\/6000. For\n    instance, the cmdtool will not work. Still, most everything else works.\n    For those of you who have already installed my previous patch, I have\n    put a separate patch for just the shared library problem. This file is\n    contrib\/xview3\/Fixes\/xview3_rs6k_XView_lib.patch.Z.\n\nSystem: linux\nPorter: Kenneth Osterberg <lmfken@lmf.ericsson.se>\nICompiler: gcc 2.3.3, libc4.2\nFtp: tsx-11.mit.edu \/pub\/linux\/binaries\/usr.bin.X11\/xview3L2\nFtp: sunsite.unc.edu\nNotes:\n    Inlcudes olvwm, UIT\n\nSystem: SGI\nPorter: Rainer Sinkwitz <sinkwitz@ifi.unizh.ch>\nFtp: export.lcs.mit.edu:\/contrib\/xview3\/Fixes\/xview3_sgi_unofficial.patch.tar.Z\nNotes:\n\nSystem: Solbourne Series 5\nPorter: tmcconne@sedona.intel.com (Tom McConnell)\n\n\nSubject: XView 2 Ports\n\nIn general, there is no point in using XView 2 if you have XView 3 available;\nit's a good idea to look for an XView 3 port first.  Moving from XView 2 to\nXView 3 is usually simply a matter of recompiling, unless you've done\n\"dirty tricks\" or used undocumented calls.\n\n\nSystem: Stellar GS100 (Stardent 1000) and Stardent 1500 & 3000\nPorter: arvai@scripps.edu (Andy Arvai)\nFtp: perutz.scripps.edu (137.131.152.27) in the pub\/xview directory\nNotes:\n    Stardent is now Kubota Pacific (KPC)\n\nSystem: Harris Nighthawk 4000 system (CX\/UX Unix)\nPorter: andy@harris.nl (Andy Warner)\nStatus: Commercial\n\nSystem: SGI\/Iris\nPorter: (?)\nFtp: wuarchive.wustl.edu:graphics\/graphics\/sgi-stuff\/XView\/xview2\n\nSystem: VAX\/VMS\nPorter: TGV Inc (?)\nNotes:\n    A company called TGV makes a product called \"XView for VMS\".\n    They made XView 2.0 libraries.  I haven't seen them advertising\n    XView 3.0 libraries yet.\n\nSubject: Games (free and commercial)\n\nCommercial: Aviator - flight simulator for GX-equipped SPARCStations\nContact: Artificial Horizons Inc, aviator-interest@ahi.com;  +1 415 367 5029\nRequirements: OpenWindows (2 or 3), SunOS 4.1 or later, SPARC GX or GXplus\n\nFree: hexsweeper - minesweeper game based on hexagons\nContact: lee@sq.com, include HexSweeper in Subject\nRequirements: OpenWindows 3.0 or later\nToolkit: TNT 3\n\nFree: \n\nFree: sidtool - PacMan game\nFtp: ftp.uu.net \/usenet\/comp.sources.games\/volume1\/sidtool\/*\n \n\n    an OPEN LOOK PacMan(tm) surrogate that\n    appears as a debugger - the bad guys are code bugs that\n    move around your screen; you (the good guy) chase them\n    with a 19\" monitor that eats bugs.\n\n\nCommercial: SimCity\nContact: Dux Software, Los Altos, CA\nPrice: US$89\nRequirements: OpenWindows 3 (uses NeWS).  Doesn't run on a 4\/110 with cg4 :-(\n\nFree: Spider (Included in OpenWindows under `demo' and `share\/src')\n    A patience-style card game with two packs of cards and\n    excellent bitmap cards.\n    I suggest recompiling to allow the cards to have rounded edges.\n\nFree: Xblackjack (ftp from export.lcs.mi.edu as contrib\/xblackjack-2.1.tar.Z)\n    A MOTIF\/OLIT based tool constructed to get you ready for the casino.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Who holds the record for most career strikeouts while playing for one team?\nWho holds the record for most career strikeouts for the Rangers?\n(Hint: Nolan Ryan isn't either)\n\nWhat two pitchers have over 100 career saves for two different teams?\n\nWho is the only player to hit 300 or more career home runs and steal 300 or \nmore career bases for the same team?\n\nNo fair peeking at your baseball stats....\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nIt is a data aquisition board for the Mac II series.  It is called\nthe DMA Board with GPIB Interface.  You may call NI at 800-IEEE-488\nto find out more about it.\n\nHope this helps.\n\nSaiid Paryavi\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nAnd for the Commodore CDTV.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"While I will first congratulate the Blues for their victory, I think it must\nbe realized that the primary reason the Blues were able to win was Curtis   \nJoseph.  When a goalkeeper gets hot, there is little an opposing team can do.\nJoseph should be given the entire city of St. Louis, because otherwise there \nwould probably be a game 6 scheduled.  \n\nAs for the game on Sunday.  The Blues caught a few breaks, without a doubt.\nOne was the Referee constantly watching the Blackhawks, looking for reasons to\ngive them penalties.  Second, The Blues first goal resulted because the puck\nhit the linesman as the Blackhawks attempted to clear.  No linesman, no shot\nfor Brett(I can redirect anything)Hull to redirect.  On another of St. Louis'\ngoals, Belfour was tripped from behind as he went to make the save by someone\nwho didn't belong in the crease, which means it was a St. Louis player.\nFinally, the overtime goal was caused because someone kept Belfour from getting back to the crease.  No goalie, no way to stop the shot.\n\nI congratulate St. Louis for beating the Hawks.  It will be a shame to see\nBryan Murray finally advance to the Campbell Conference Finals because Joseph\nwon't be able to stop the powerful Red Wing attack.\n\n\n____________________________________________________________________________","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Anyone have any idea how to get Japanese League stats regularly in the US?\n\n- matt\n\nwall@cc.swarthmore.edu\n\n\n\nMatt Wall * wall@cc.swarthmore.edu * Hey, I gotta job here, OK?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":":>... Also, as implied by other posters, why \n:>do you need to boost the orbit on this mission anyway? ...\n:You don't *need* to, but it's desirable.  HST, like all satellites in\n:low Earth orbit, is gradually losing altitude due to air drag.  It was\n:deployed in the highest orbit the shuttle could reach, for that reason.\n:It needs occasional reboosting or it will eventually reenter.  (It has\n:no propulsion system of its own.)\n\nHas any thought been given as to how they are going to boost the HST yet?\nGive it a push?  I can see the push start cartoons now :-).\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Hi!\n\nI want to change the default paper cassette on our LaserWriter Pro 630\nfrom the 250-sheet cassette to the 500-sheet cassette. Right now, we all\nhave to change it manually on the Print dialog each time we print. If we\nforget, the document is printed on the letterhead paper we have in the\n250-sheet cassette.\n\nAny ideas?\n--Michael","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Not only is benzene a carcinogen, it is adsorbed through the skin and cause\ncumulative damage to the bone marrow which is essential to the production of\nyour blood cells.  It is highly toxic. One exposure is unlikely to kill you,\nbut it will likely do hidden damage.  Benzene is one compound that chemists\ntry like hell to avoid using!\nAcetone is much less toxic, but is highly flammable and volatile. \nIt also dissolves lots of things so handle with great care!","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\"broken\"\n\nAgain, as the original poster of the article, I apologize if it\nimplied that atheism = brokenness.  Such was not my intent and\nI apologize for any hurt feelings in the process.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"The Bricklin was a car manufactured by a company started by Malcolm\nBricklin, who, I believe, was Canadian.  He was the first one to import\nSubarus, and later was responsible for importing Yugos, I believe. \nAnyway, he had this idea that what would really sell would be a sports\ncar, but one incorporating a bunch of innovative safety features.  The\nBricklin was built to be that queerest of beasts, the safety sports car.\n If any of you remember the early 70s movement among car makers to\ndesign \"experimental\" safety cars, you will recognize the general\nappearance of the Bricklin - big 'ol bumpers, etc.  Anyone recall other\nsafety features?  The engine was an american v-8, Ford I think is right.\n\nPersonally, I kinda like the way they look, and if I remember from the\nold magazine articles, the performance was only half-bad.  The choice of\ncolors, though, tended towards the 1970s lime green - yech - but highly\nvisible, I suppose.  \n\nThe Delorean, on the other hand, was a dog - nice looking (IMO) but no\nmotor at all.  \nDan\ndh3q@andrew.cmu.edu\nCarnegie Mellon University\nApplied History\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"-- \n      ____\n  Y_,_|[]|   Ernest Stalnaker\n {|_|_|__|   jcs@sage.cc.purdue.edu\n \/\/oo--OO    ...!pur-ee!sage.cc!jcs\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":" \nPhototransistor-> X100 -> X100 -> NE567\nwith 330Kohm              Limiter \nfeedback to base                  \nto control operating point (I expect this really hurts Noise Figure! Any\ncomments from Phototransistor experts?)\n\nWe intended to use this atop a stepper motor, to provide headings to the\nbeacons. The plan was to have 3 or 4 beacons, of different frequencies, in \neach room, and tell the 567 what frequency to phase-lock to. We did not do so.\nOne challenge was that the available stepper had 8 degree steps!\nKnowing the headings to each beacon, we would have used the surveyor \ntechnique of RESECTION to determine robot location. (No, I ain't going to\nexplain resection over the net.)","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I do not know if I am hitting the right news groups or not, any help in\nthe right direction is more than welcome.  I need help finding a company\nthat will take photographic images scanned in and modified by Adobe Photoshop\nand turn them into thermal prints or negatives.  I am looking for a place\nas close to North Carolina as possible.  The images will be created on\na Macintosh Quadra 800 running Adobe Photoshop and will then be stored in\nwhatever format the vendor requires, perhaps 88M cartridges?\n\n    The images will be black and white photographs scanned in with a 1200 dpi\nscanner then modified\/corrected by Adobe Photoshop.  If anyone could help me\nor even give me phone numbers to people who could I would be very grateful.\n\n    Also if anyone else is doing what I am planning I would be happy to hear\nfrom you with any advice you might provide as to the computer system you\nuse and\/or any peripherals or software.  It seemed the Quadra 800 would be\nmy best bet to modify photographic images.  I am planning on buying a Quadra\n800 with 32Megs of RAM, a 510Meg Hard Drive, a 1200 dpi scanner, 17\" Sony \nmonitor and a 88Meg cartridge drive and perhaps a CD ROM.  I am new to\ncomputers and any advice would be great.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n  [pseudo-letterhead deleted -- dcs]\n\n# While Israeli Jews fete the uprising of the Warsaw ghetto, they\n# repress by violent means the uprising of the Gaza ghetto and\n# attempt to starve the Gazans.\n\n  Why do I detect the faint scent of bias here?  Could it be because\n  the Israelis aren't feasting?  Perhaps because the Gazans aren't\n  starving?\n\n# The Gaza strip, this tiny area of land with the highest population\n# density in the world,\n\n  Oh, oh.  I hadn't realized that the Chinese had wiped out Hong\n  Kong, or that Singapore had sunk into the sea, or that several\n  other cities had vanished.  Either that, or this is a taste of\n  the quality of 'Research' we're about to see.\n\n#                       has been cut off from the world for weeks.\n\n  So I suppose that the footage on CNN last night was archival,\n  and Ted Turner was faking it after the NBC style?  Or is this\n  another wee little exaggeration for the sake of a Greater Truth?\n\n# The Israeli occupier has decided to punish the whole population of\n# Gaza, some 700.000 people, by denying them the right to leave the\n# strip and seek work in Israel.\n\n  Hey!  You forgot that Israel has also denied Syrians the same\n  'right'.  Come to think of it, Mexico is denying me that 'right'\n  evan as I write this!  Or are you ever so gently suggesting that\n  Israel, unlike every other country on Earth, shouldn't be allowed\n  to control traffic across its borders?\n\n# While Polish non-Jews risked their lives to save Jews from the\n# Ghetto, no Israeli Jew is known to have risked his life to help\n# the Gazan resistance.  The only help given to Gazans by Israeli\n# Jews, only dozens of people, is humanitarian assistance.\n\n  This sounds like a parallel, but it isn't.  Tell us how many Poles\n  went into the Ghetto to join the Jews there.  Oops!  For a moment\n  there I forgot that in Poland, 'humanitarian assistance\" could\n  get you killed.  Come to think of it, humanitarian assistance to\n  the Gazans can get Israelis killed, too.  Except that in Gaza,\n  it's likely to be by a Gazan death squad in your own office.\n\n  So let's keep the parallel.  Since the gross numbers aren't the\n  same, we'll need a proportionality value.  Should we use:\n    * Gazan vs Jewish initial population?\n    * Gazan vs Jewish death rates?\n    * Gazans vs Jews who survived five years of occupation?\n    * Israelis vs Nazis attacked by the 'resistance'?\n    * Israelis vs Poles charged with aiding the victims?\n  Since the two cases are so comparable, it shouldn't matter\n  which we pick, they'll all be about the same, right?\n\n------------\n\nContrary to popular hyperbole, the IDF *could* quite easily kill\noff the entire population of Gaza in hours if they wanted to.\n(No, I'm not exaggerating.  And I really don't want to discuss how.)\nNote that a million dead Gazans don't get much more headline\nspace than a dozen, and are just as soon forgotten -- and once\nexterminated, they can't keep popping up as headlines.\n\nSo if a \"Final Solution\" for Gaza would be so much better from\na *Realpolitik* standpoint, why doesn't Israel go for it?  A\ndifficult question to answer for those who can't believe anything\ngood about Jews, and probably why they keep trying to force-fit\nthe facts into the theory.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nWe used to have a tax in Greece named after the Queen's Mother. The Queen\nleft (Monarchy was abolished) but the tax stuck...\n\nSimilar single purpose taxes have stuck (i.e. to help the victims of \nthe earthquake of 19XX, build the Metro)\n\nObMoralConclusion: next time someone proposes a car tax or gasoline tax\npromising it's temporary, it AIN'T. \n\nSpiros","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Ditto. Great post.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"useless\nwhich of\nand\na\n\nBut ingnoring putouts is biased in yet another way. Range is\nnot the only thing that makes a good firstbaseman. The ability\nto field all sorts of balls thrown to him: digging some out of the\ndirt, stretching for others, and so forth is important. Thus, \nputouts do provide some information.  Maybe what we need is a\ncomparision of how many balls were thrown to the area of the\nfirst baseman vs. how many he actually got.\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
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{"text":"Relay of coverage seen:\n----------------------\nThere was a press conference by authorities at the compound on CNN earlier \ntoday (Wednesday).  It was explained that two news photographers were found \non the compound earlier this morning without permission.  It was explained \nto the press corps. that this is dangerous and that an unknown photographer \nturning around with a long lens camera could be mistaken for someone dangerous \nby a Texas Ranger surveying the site. (!)  \n\nThe two photographers were said to be currently in jail and \nthe press were warned to follow the authorities' guidelines.  \nIt was also emphasized that the survey of the \"crime\" scene at this \npoint was crucial and that the press could not be allowed to interfere.\nThe press will not be allowed in until the bodies are removed and the \nsite has been completely surveyed for evidence for a court case.  \n\nThat is the gist of the beginning of the conference to the best of my \nmemory.  I bring this up because I haven't seen anyone else note it \nand I haven't seen the regular newscasts mention it.  It will \nprobably be mentioned in the papers tomorrow.\n\nMy opinions:\n-----------\nI find this disturbing.  While I believe that Koresh is largely \nresponsible for not ending this standoff in a peacable manner during the \nlast 51 days of patient opportunity, I find the secrecy surrounding the \naftermath more damaging to the authorities' position than they realize.\n\nSince the vast majority of potential defendents in a court case are \nalready dead, the emphasis on the importance of building the court \ncase seems overblown to me.\n\nIt will be interesting to see the hearings on this affair.  I have also \nheard congressional calls for a review and possible overhaul of government \nenforcement agencies which you will recall I have stated would be a good \nidea in previous months.\n\nPlease also note that I by no means endorse  or agree with the many \nconspiracy-type theories I have read here and in other groups.  As usual, \nI am basing my opinions on info gathered from various media and filtered \nby my own common sense and consideration of plausibility, IMHO.  As such, \nmy opinion is subject to change as more information is made available.\n\n\nScott Roby                                                Standard Disclaimer","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nSure ... because it's a non-market phenomenom and the free market\ncan't solve it.  Even our private insurance says that ....\n\n\n.... and wants no part of it.\n\n\nCanada is saturated by American media.  While pundits come on cable\nand talk about how awful our health care is supposed to be, what\npeople experience up north ends up not differing from what they see\nportrayed on American television in movies (i.e., same infrastructure,\ndifferent insurance make-up).  Yet they know not of any insurance\nproblems, and have no idea of what an HMO is ... but having lots of\nBritish TV as well, they know that they don't like NHS.\n\n\nThe polls that you refer to, for the Canadian data, are from the\nannual July 1st polls conducted for Macleans (our major English\nnewsmagazine) by Decima Research ... Decima president Allen Gregg is\nconsidered one of the world's top poll researchers, and Mulroney's\nConservatives have relied on him to keep in power in the face of\nimpossible election situations.  The American polls are Harris polls,\nand have been reposted on USENET a few times and probably will again.\nI'm sorta suspicious myself, 'cos maybe Americans want universal\ncoverage like Canada --- I honestly doubt that most Americans realize\nthat we have private doctors and public and private hospitals (i.e.,\nsimiliar health care infrastructure) and our \"system\" is basically\npure insurance without HMO's.\n\n\nUntil the idea of managed competition arose, there was no direct\nthreat to stand-alone private practice.  In the 1960's, the AMA\nfought HMO's as corporatized socialist medicine ... part of the\nreason why we have only insurance, and no HMO's in Canada 'cos\nthat was part of the deal cut with the CMA.\n\n\nBut each site is probably compact, and the clientele are creamed.\nAnd don't forget that HMO's place caps on your coverage, and often\nwon't tell you about additional procedures you could get otherwise\n(despite that you might be willing to pay for it).\n\ngld","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n.\n\n\n\n\nre. \n\nown.\n\ns.\n \nWill do! I appreciate the thoughtfullness of the Post to not be an\nintermediary for such sales. The \"Right to bear arms\" is one of the most\nmisapplied rights in our Constitution, and assault weapons go way beyond\nwhat is, or rather should be (imho), a \"natural\" right in America. Just\nask the family of that boy shot back in September - the papers are full of\nstories about a child with an assult weapon with a \"angelic face\" (Post)\nwho committed the murder without ever thinking.\n \nThis has all got to get under control. I applaud the Post for their bravery","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nI believe that there's a 10 year period from time of death until\na person can be on a commemorative stamp.  It was broken once\nfor Lyndon Johnson (I think) but other than that it has held for\nawhile.  Of course, we can still start now -- the Elvis stamp\nwas petitioned for ages and things really moved once it got\npast the 10 year anniversary of his death.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Hi All\n\nI have a Korg DVP-1 for sale for $300.00 + shipping.  For those who've not\nhad the pleasure:\n\nIt is a MIDI controlled (no keyboard of it's own) rackmountable digital voice\nprocessor.  What can it do with your voice?  It can pitch-shift it (change the\nnotes you sing).  It can add harmonies to your singing (up to 5 parts at one\ntime).  It can change your voice into a synthesizer's voice but leave what\nyou say alone and intelligible.  This works well for a \"computerized\" sounding\nsinger, or robot voice.  For those of you who just thought about that, yes -\nyou can do the voices from Robo-Cop, and the old ELO lead-ins with it, and yes -\nI'm a little red-faced to say that I tried those specifically.  For an input,\nit takes both: XLR (3-prong mic) and 1\/4\" cables.  For output, you can have\na combination of the original-input-only, and your choice of mix between the\noriginal signal and the effect (can be effect only if desired).  It has preset\nsetups, which you can edit and save for your own preferences.  It has a couple\nof light scratches, but does not look bad, and works flawlessly.  Even when we\ndon't use it in my music, it's been good for after-hours fun in the studio.\nThe manual is included.  I never got around to getting rack-ears for it, but\nit has only gotten studio use from me - no roading, so it's not beaten.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nIT'S BACK!!!!!!\n\nCongratulations, you've just discovered a very nasty, and very frequently\necountered, bug in the Word Setup program. Once you know what is wrong, it\nis quite easy to fix. Go into the Fonts dialog under Control Panel, and select\nthe two fonts MT Extra and Fences. Delete them, but only delete the list\nentries, not the disk files. Now select Add, and add the fonts MT Extra Plain\nand Fences Plain. Close the Font box, close Control Panel, and restart Word.\nEverything should be alright now.\n\nDoes anyone know if Microsoft has fixed this thing yet? They HAVE to know\nabout it by now, it's been so frequently reported.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\t1) They are religious parodies, NOT atheistic paradies.\n\n\t2) Please substantiate that they are parodies, and are outrageous.\n\t   Specifically, why is the IUP any more outrageous than many \n\t   religions?\n\n---\n\nPrivate note to Jennifer Fakult.\n\n        \"This post may contain one or more of the following:\n         sarcasm, cycnicism, irony, or humor. Please be aware \n         of this possibility and do not allow yourself to be \n         confused and\/or thrown for a loop. If in doubt, assume\n         all of the above.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n[REMAINDER DELETED]\n\nI don't have my copy of the manual with me right now, but I can offer the\nfollowing in the interim:\n\n   1)  The card uses port addresses 0x2E0 and 0x2E8 (which are NOT\n       configurable).  These addresses, incidentally, were inadvertantly\n       omitted from my version of the manual.\n\n   2)  I believe there is a dip that controls whether or not to enable\n       IRQ 2 (for CGA or EGA support??!?).\n\nLance Hartmann (lance%hartmann.austin.ibm.com@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com)\n               Yes, that IS a '%' (percent sign) in my network address.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n$># Item number 1:  in a previous posting, you stated that you had found\n$># \"overwhelming support for child molestation\" in soc.motss:\n\n$># You have (finally) responded to this one.  I have read your complete file\n$># of postings to soc.motss and to put it bluntly, it does not support your\n$># assertion.  In short, this claim is bogus.  Thank you for confirming this.\n\n\nClayton, are you really an idiot, or do you just play one on USENET?\n\nYou claimed you had postings from a dozen (i.e. 12) soc.motss posters that\n\"supported child molestation\". (Point aside that they were really defending\nabolishing or modifying the age of consent laws, or the right to be ATTRACTED\nbut don't act upon desires for children).\n\nso 12 out of thousands is an \"overwhelming majority\".\n\nYou never cease to amaze me.\n\nAnd you still haven't told me why my relationship with my partner is immoral.\n\nBrian D. Kane","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nIn the list you mentioned, tgif handles everything except rotation and\nany size text.  It only supports 90 degrees rotation.  Currently, it\nsupports 11 (X11R4 standard) font sizes.  However, it allows arbitrary\nscaling of the entire drawing.  Effectively, it allows any font sizes, but\nyou can only have 11 different sizes per drawing.\n\nTgif takes up 850K (compiled with -O option) on a SPARCstation.  I was told\nthat it compiles under Linux, but I haven't tried it yet.  It works with\nboth color and monochrome X.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nTimbo, Israel has not been recognized as a state by the Arabs, except for\nEgypt, of course.  Isn't that  a gesture?  What has Israel offered?\nWell, it has been calling for peace talks for 45 years, asked for\neconomic relations, and asked for diplomatic ties.  What else is there?\nWould you have Israel sacrifice its security?  Nay, I think not.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nHmmmmn...don't you ride with your sweetheart?\n \n-- \n-----------------------------------------------------------------------\n\"Tuba\" (Irwin)      \"I honk therefore I am\"     CompuTrac-Richardson,Tx\nirwin@cmptrc.lonestar.org    DoD #0826          (R75\/6)","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\tNo, it is the stock setup.  Someone really ought to put an end\n\tto the confusion regarding BMW's chain drive boxers.  Didn't\n\tsomeone post the FAQ on this some time ago?  In essence, it\n\tdescribes the problem BMW is having with their decision to\n\tsettle down to a shaft drive as a standard.  They vacilate\n\tand persist in reintroducing the chain drive in various\n\tmodels.  (R\/C)  Gosh.  Well, on with the crusade!","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"89' Toyota Camry LE 4 dr sedan\nAC AT power windows and locks\n53k miles, asking $9000.\nPls call 510-526-8248 or send e-mail to this account.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\/ hpcc01:comp.dcom.modems \/ bourman@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Bob Bourman) \/  8:59 am  Apr 27, 1993 \/\n\/ hpcc01:comp.dcom.modems \/ bourman@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Bob Bourman) \/  8:51 am  Apr 27, 1993 \/\nFor Sale\n12KBps \nMicrocom MicroPorte 1042 pocket modem\nNew List Price $895\n\nRechargeable battery pack (in modem)\nAuto logon, Password security, UUCP and Kermit support, remote access\nDTLA cellular connection, MNP2-4, V.42 & MNP10 error correction\nMNP5 & V.42bis data compression\nBell 103,212A,V.22,V.22bis & Microcom Turbo Mode\n19,200 DTE & 12,000bps DCE speed\n9 & 25 pin adapter cable & AC power transformer\n\n\nMake Offer (>$200)\nBob Bourman\n(415) 857-8409\nE-Mail bourman@corp.hp.com\n\n\n----------\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I have some questions about this subject.  I like to leave my\ncomputer on if I think I'm going to be using it withing the next 2 or\n3 hours, but I get sick of my Dad constantly coming up to me and\nasking \"Why is the computer on if you're not using it?\"  I also\nwonder about my computer being harmed by fluctuations in voltage from\nother things (garbage disposal, etc.)  Here are my questions:\n \nHow much harm do voltage fluctuations cause?  My computer does not\nshare a circuit with anything big but our my light dims when a\nrefrigerator comes on or the garbage disposal is turned on (whose\ndoesn't?), and also when the washing machine does anything.  All\nthese things cause a drop in voltage which is harmful to a computer,\nright?  I also notice the fan in my System Saver turning at different\nspeeds.  Is it safer to turn it off and back on when I want to use it\nor to leave it on?\n \nHow much electricity does my computer use?  I have an Apple IIgs (ne\nflames), with a Kensington System saver GS (1 electric fan inside),\nan AppleColor RGB monitor, and an EXTERNAL 3.5\" HD (1 fan and its own\nP\/S).  How do I translate this into Kilowatt-Hours?  Also, how much\nof this is used by the monitor?\n \nDoes the monitor use considerably less juice when the screen is\ntotally black but still on?\n \nMany computers spin the HD up and down constantly to save power.  I\nalways thought this was harmful to the HD and defeats the purpose of\nleaving the computer on in the first place (except portables).  Is\nthis true?\n \nThanks for the Info.  I think this will help lots of people.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"%\n%   Well, here goes.  After lurking for a LONG time, I'll announce  myself.\n%   Yes, I'm the enemy.\n%\n\n   Sorry Allan,  but unless  you happen  to be  the guy  who watches  T.V.\n   while he's  driving a  white Toyota  on route  129 between  Atsugi  and\n   Hiratsuka, you're not even -close- to being \"the enemy\"!!\n\n-- \n   ------------------------------------------------------------------------\n  | John Little  - gaijin@Japan.Sun.COM  - Sun Microsystems. Atsugi, Japan | ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Hi out there!\n\nEvery command-line-shell-favourating user: Close your ears, ehm, eyes...\n\nI'm looking for a X file-manager which can be driven under TWM.\nSomebody told me last night, there is one under OpenWindows\n(and there certainly is one under MS-Windows :-#).\n\nBut I'd like an X-one, you know, with icon's, click-and-drag, directory-structures\nshown in a graphic-layout, a paper-basket etc. ...\n\nAnybody got an idea?\n\nPlease reply.\n\n      _\/   _\/     _\/_\/_\/       thSo - Thorsten Sommer, better known as:\n     _\/   _\/    _\/                    Chiquita (Denn nur Chiquita ist Banane!)\n  _\/_\/_\/ _\/_\/_\/  _\/_\/    _\/_\/ \n   _\/   _\/  _\/      _\/ _\/   _\/           e-mail: sommer@ips.cs.tu-bs.de\n  _\/   _\/  _\/      _\/ _\/   _\/   \n _\/_\/ _\/  _\/ _\/_\/_\/    _\/_\/  \n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n Transform ... and roll out! (BigTruck - Transformers)","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nTrue.. but what about showing the missing part of a leaf?  Is this\n\"corona discharge\"?\n\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
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{"text":"I am very serious about the purchase of a 486dx-33 that uses the Orchid VLB \nmother board, The system also has the VLB IDE and Fahrenheit video board in \nit. I haven't seen or heard ANY bad comments about this board! Does anyone \nout there have any comments good or bad about this board? I am considering \nthis board primarily because of Orchid's reputation and long standing in \nthe field. Thanks for any and all comments.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI have a couple reasons why I would be more likely to trust this algorithm:\n\t1. The algorithm will be made totally public, once it is patented.\n\t2. The keys will NOT be escrowed.\nOf course if either of these is not true, I will not use this new algorithm.\nSince I have never seen this new algorithm, I have no idea how secure it is\nyet.\n\nI can't make any judgements about the algorithm itself yet, but I do notice\nthat the creators of this algorithm are being more open about how the\nthing works, and is willing to make it public, showing that after a bit\nof scrutiny, any weaknesses will probably be revealed, while we don't know\nabout Clipper.\n\nDoug Holland\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n   >Some< of?\n\n\n  Yes, I think so and it has been reported as such.  Seems like a cowboy\nmovie-style attack was needed for some reason....\n\n\n  The answer is probably YES. But consider; what was the WORST thing that\ncould have happened if they waited?  Hint: whatever it was it could not have\nbeen any worse that what DID happen.  \n\n\n  But that statement of taking full responsibility is totally meaningless.\nWhat are the consequences for being fully responsible for this disaster?\nA note in your personnell file??  Slick already called these people a bunch\nof crazy people and dismissed the idea she should resign.  Doesn't take \nANY balls at all to take the responsibility.  Hell, at that rate >I< will\ntake full responsibility for it.  No skin off my nose....\n-- \n-------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I've been playing with a centris 610 (8\/230) for the last couple weeks.  The only\nproblem that I have seen is that a couple of the applications I run are\nincompatible with the 040's processor cache, so I have to run with it turned off.\nActually, the main thing I don't like it is that it doesn't have a software\npowerup\/powerdown, and the power switch is DIRECTLY UNDER THE FLOPPY DRIVE!  (I\nhaven't hit it thinking it would eject the disk, but some tired night I'm going\nto be really upset with that design decision.....)\n\nIn all, no problems with it. floppy and printing have been just fine.  (printing\nis done across a localtalk net, not a directly connected printer)","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Build 59 causes 2 exceptions when I exit Windows. In fact, I have had\nthis happen on all builds after 44, which shipped with my Gateway\nsystem.  Am I doing something wrong, or is this problem commonly\noverlooked?","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI don't know either.  Truth be known, so little is known of angels\nto even guess.  All we really know is that angels ALWAYS speak in\nthe nativ tongue of the person they're talking to, so perhaps they\ndon't have ANY language of their own.\n\n\nWell, we are told to test the spirits.  While you could do this\nscripturally, to see if someones claims are backed by the bible,\nI see nothing wrong with making sure that that guy Lazarus really\nwas dead and now he's alive.\n\n\nIt's a common fallacy you commit.  The non-falsifiability trick.  How\ncan I prove it when not all the evidence may be seen?  Answer:  I\ncan't.  The fallacy is in assuming that it is up to me to prove \nanything.  \n\nWhen I say it has never been proven, I'm talking about the ones\nmaking the claims, not the skeptics, who are doing the proving.\n\nThe burden of proof rest with the claimant.  Unfortunately, \n(pontification warning) our legal system seems to be headed in\nthe dangerous realm of making people prove their innocence (end\npontification).\n\nBut truthfully, Corinthians was so poorly written (or maybe just\nso poorly translated into English) that much remains unknown\nabout just what Paul really intended (despite claims of hard\nproof one way or another).  Some will see his writings in\n1 cor 12-14 as saying don't do this don't do this and using\nsarcasm, metaphor, etc. while yet others take what he says literally\nsarcasms and metaphors notwithstanding.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nNah... I figure most people would be so busy reading that they wouldn't\nhave *time* to post. :-) :-) :-)\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\tspl","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n     You'll find that in Allen, C.W., \"Astrophysical Quantities\", Athlone\nPress, Dover, NH, 3rd edition, pp. 268-269 (1973).  To the accuracy it can\nbe calculated (see specific references in Allen about how it is\ncalculated), the temperature is 3 degrees K.\n\n     Lots of people have remarked on this temperature.  The first may have\nbeen in Eddington's book, \"Internal Constitution of Stars\", Ch. 13 (1926;\nreprinted 1986), where he gives the \"temperature of space\" as 3 degrees.\n\n     The source of this temperature is the radiation of starlight.\n\n\n     To the accuracy of measurement, it's the same temperature.  Some of us\nthink this may not be a coincidence.  -|Tom|-\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nDon't forget little girls!  My not-quite-2 year old daughter now\nexcitedly points and says \"motorcycle\" every time she sees one go\npast.  I've done my work.  (Of course, it helps that one of her\nbooks shows Sir Topham Hatt in a chaffeured side car rig...)\n\n\nCan you think of a better way to convince the kid that \"someday, I'll\nride one of those things\"?\n\n\nNo, it's a genetic thing with little humans...\n\nJust don't let them touch hot pipes.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nIt also works great to put under your kickstand on those really hot\ndays when the tar gets really soft.....\n\n\n================================================================================\n                        \nJim \"rags\" Rye                    Senior Technical Support Analyst\n86 Harley Davidson                     rye@crayamid.cray.com\n                                    Cray Research Inc, Mpls, MN.\n\n\"If you're going to do something tonight that you'll be sorry for \n tomorrow morning, sleep late.\"\n              -Henny Youngman","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nNo comparison. The BEL is just a hooped up wideband Escort like detector.\nNo directional indicators, no Bogey counter, no radar signature analysis, no\nremote display option, not as sensitive, not as well built. \nHad it, sent it back!","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Elias Davidsson writes...\n \n \nED> The following are quotations from Zionist leaders. They appear in\nED> numerous scholarly works dealing with the Palestine question. I urge those\nED> who have access to original sources, to verify the authenticity of the\nED> source and post here their finding, adhering to the truth whatever it be.\n\n   It is your responsibility for posting quotes in context.  Your\n   phony 'research center' is the source of the most unscholarly,\n   out-of-context, agenda-ridden, and sophmoric propaganda that I\n   have ever seen.  Don't believe me, folks?  Let's take a little\n   stroll through a few of Elias Davidsson's contributions to our \n   understanding of the middle east.\n \nED> Quotations from Zionist leaders\n\nED> 1. \"There was no such thing as Palestinians\"\nED> (Golda Meir, Prime Minister of Israel, London Sunday \nED> Times, 15 June 1969)\n\n    And what do suggest that she meant by this?  Do you think she\n    meant that the Palestinians don't exist?  Or does it actually\n    mean that the people who self-identify as 'Palestinians,' did\n    not appear to be a distinct ethnic group in the eyes of Golda\n    Meir?  \n\n\nED> 2. \"There is, however, a difficulty from which the Zionist \nED> dares not avert his eyes, though he rarely likes to face it. \nED> Palestine proper has already its inhabitants.\"\nED> (Israel Zangwill, The Voice of Jerusalem, London 1920, \nED> p.88)\n\n    When this was written, seventy three years ago, the people of\n    the region were not all Jews.  They are not all Jews now.  No\n    Jew but the most rabid bigot has ever called for an Israel to\n    be ONLY for Jews.  That was true then.  It is true now.  \n\n\nED> \"[The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs.\"\nED> (Menachem Begin, Prime Minister of Israel in a speech to \nED> the Knesset,\nED> quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, 'Begin and the \"Beasts\", New \nED> Statesman, 25 June 1982)\n\n    Since you inserted the words 'The Palestinians are' we cannot\n    know what Begin was talking about.  \n    \n    For someone who wants to embellish his own importance with an \n    absurd pseudo-organizational name like the 'Center for Policy\n    Research,' you are not a very honest person. \n\n\nED> \"Both the process of expropriation [of the Palestinians] \nED> and the removal of the poor must be carried out \nED> discreetly and circumspectly\".\nED> (Dr. Theodor Herzl, The Complete Diaries, Herzl Press, \nED> 1960, I., p.88)\n\n    Herzl died eighty nine years ago.  Are you suggesting that he\n    has stated what is Israel's policy today?  Have you ever seen\n    Israel even entertain a policy to exclude non-Jews, let alone  \n    actually try to remove non-Jews from Israel?  If you actually \n    believe that this quote has anything to do with Israel's non-\n    Jewish citizenry today, you are an idiot.  But if you realize\n    that Israel has no intention of removing non-Jewish Israelis,\n    then you are nothing but a common liar.  This one time I will \n    give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume you are stupid. \n\n \nED> \"We shall try to spirit the penniless population [the \nED> Palestinians] across the border by procuring employment \nED> for it in the transit countries, while denying it any \nED> employment in our own country\"\nED> (Theodor Herzl, The Complete Diaries, Herzl Press, 1960, \nED> I, p.88)\n\n    Once again you quote a man gone for almost a century.  You do\n    so within the context of modern day Israel.  \n    \n    Thomas Jefferson owned slaves.  How does this fact define the\n    United States today?\n\n\nED> \"[Jews] must expel Arabs and take their place\" \nED> (David Ben Gurion, 1937, quoted in Shabtai Teveth, Ben \nED> Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, \nED> 1985, p. 89)\n\n    Did he say 'Jews,' or did you add this?\n \n    This was also a statement from ten years before Israel became\n    a state.  It has no bearing on Israel.  \n    \n\nED> \"We must do everything to ensure they [the \nED> Palestinian refugees] never do return\"\nED> (David Ben Gurion, in his diary, 19 July 1948, quoted in \nED> Michael Bar Zohar, Ben Gurion: The Armed Prophet, \nED> Prentice-Hall, 1967, p.157)\n\n    YOU added the words 'the Palestinian refugees.'  And by doing\n    so, you are misleading people into believing that Ben Gurion,\n    who was expressing his hope that people who fled their lands,\n    at the encouragement of people such as KING ABDULLAH, and the  \n    MUFTI OF JERUSALEM, was gloating over people abandoning their\n    homes.  What he was refering to were the Arabs with whom Jews\n    were at war.  \n\nED> \"The country was mostly an empty desert, with only \nED> a few islands of Arab settlement\"\nED> (Shimon Peres, Minister of Defense, quoted in David's \nED> Sling: The Arming of Israel, Weidenfeld and Nicholson, \nED> 1970, p.249)\n\n    At the time of the rebirth of Israel this was certainly true,\n    especially when compared to what Israel has accomplished in a\n    few short decades.\n\n\nED> \"All this story about the danger of extermination [of \nED> Jews] has been blown up....to justify the annexation of \nED> new Arab territories\"\nED> (Mordechai Bentov, Israeli Cabinet Minister, Al \nED> Hamishmar, 14 April 1972)\n\n    Since Israel has not annexed even one millimeter of territory \n    in more twenty six years, this quote is irrelevant. \n\n\nED> \"Neither Jewish ethics nor Jewish tradition can \nED> disqualify terrorism as a means of combat\"\nED> (Yitzhak Shamir, Hehazit, Summer 1943 [Journal of the \nED> LEHI, the Stern Gang], translated from the Israeli daily \nED> Al-Hamishmar, 24 December 1987\n\n    Again, you are quoting a man who was fighting for what he had\n    been promised from a time as ancient as biblical, to the time\n    of the Balfour Declaration, just a few short years back.  And\n    what was thought of and described as terrorism by Jews didn't\n    include slaughtering Olympic athletes, brutally murdering the \n    innocent, attacking school buses, and murdering another human \n    being for the sole reason that he or she is an Arab.\n \n \nED> \"The domination of Jewish agriculture by Arab \nED> workers is a cancer in our body\"\nED> (A. Uzan, Israeli Minister of Agriculture, Ha'aretz, 13 \nED> December 1974)\n\n    There were serious concerns about a work force that consisted \n    of people from OUTSIDE Israel.  It is a wise to be concerned.\n    A work force consisting of foreigners is not a good situation\n    for a country.\n\n\nED> \"There can be only one national home in Palestine, \nED> and that a Jewish one, and no equality in the partnership \nED> between Jews and Arabs\"\nED> (Montague David Eder, President of the Zionist \nED> Federation of Great Britain, 1931,\nED> in Doreen Ingrams, comp., Palestine Papers 1917-1922, \nED> Seeds of Conflict, George Braziller, 1973, p. 135)\n\n    This also has no meaning for a country formed seventeen years\n    after this statement was made.  Obviously times change.  This\n    is NOT what Israel is about today.  I believe the peace talks\n    make this quote irrelevant.\n\n\nED> \"There is not a single Jewish village in this country \nED> that has not been built on the site of an Arab village\"\nED> (Moshe Dayan, Ha'aretz, 4 April 1969...)\n\n    This is completely false.\n\n\nED> \"Some people talk of expelling 700,000 to 800,000 \nED> Arabs in the event of a new war, and instruments have \nED> been prepared\"\nED> (Aharon Yariv, former chief of Israeli military \nED> intelligence, 1980, Inquiry, 8 December 1980)\n\n    Expelled from where?  Israel?  The occupied territories?  New\n    Jersey?  Is there any way we can read this and get an idea as\n    to what on earth he was talking about.  Obviously not.\n\n \nED> \"We should there [in Palestine] form a portion of the \nED> rampart of Europe against Asia, an outpost of civilization \nED> as opposed to barbarism.\"\nED> (Dr. Theodor Herzl, The Jewish State, London, 1896, p. \nED> 29)\n\n    Interesting notion.  Considering that this was written nearly\n    a century ago, it is quite visionary.\n\n\nED> \"I deeply believe in launching preventive war \nED> against the Arab States without further hesitation. By \nED> doing so we will achieve two targets: firstly, the \nED> annihilation of Arab power; and secondly, the expansion \nED> of our territory\"\nED> (Menachem Begin, in a speech to the Knesset, 12 October \nED> 1955)\n\n    This was said nearly forty years ago.  Begin is dead.  And it\n    should be obvious to anybody that if Israel was expansionist,\n    it would have ANNEXED the occupied territories right after it\n    captured them.  Israel would not be negotiating to get rid of\n    them.\n\n\nED> \"During the last 100 years our people have been in a \nED> process of building up the country and the nation, of \nED> expansion, of getting additional Jews and additional \nED> settlements in order to expand the borders here. Let no \nED> Jew say that the process has ended. Let no Jew say that \nED> we are near the end of the road.\"\nED> (Moshe Dayan, Ma'ariv, 7 July 1968)\n\n    He's dead, too.  And since Israel has not annexed ANY land at \n    all since 1967, you are once again wasting bandwidth with all\n    of these misleading quotes.  They are so out of sync with the\n    reality of Israel, that you do nothing but make yourself look\n    like a fanatic desperate to sway people, by misleading them.\n\n\nED> \"Let us not today fling accusations at the [Palestinian \nED> Arab] murderers. Who are we that we should argue \nED> against their hatred ? For eight years now they sit in \nED> their refugee camps in Gaza, and before their very eyes, \nED> we turn into our homestead the land and the villages in \nED> which they and their forefathers have lived. We are a \nED> generation of settlers, and without the steel helmet and \nED> the cannon we cannot plant a tree and build a home. Let \nED> us not shrink back when we see the hatred fermenting \nED> and filling the lives of hundreds of thousands of Arabs, \nED> who sit all around us. Let us not avert our gaze, so that \nED> our hand shall not slip. This is the fate of our generation, \nED> the choice of our life - to be prepared and armed, strong \nED> and tough - or otherwise, the sword will slip from our \nED> first, and our life will be snuffed out.\"\nED> (Moshe Dayan, eulogy of Roy Rutenberg at Kibbutz Nahal \nED> Oz, 1956, quoted in Uri Avneri, Israel without Zionists, \nCollier Books, Macmillan, New York, 1971, p.154)\n\n    Interesting quote.  It's true that we should never lose sight\n    of the plight of these people.  We should also recognize that\n    this quote preceded the disgusting wave of Arab terrorism and\n    violence directed at innocent people, that began in 1972 with \n    the massacre of the Israeli athletes in Munich, and continues \n    to this day.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"---\nHello!\n\nWe want to configure our X11R5 sytem (i486 33Mhz running BSD-like UNIX)\ncomming up with a chooser menu with different machines on it (works) an then\nconnect to them. But the only connection works is localhost!\nAn 'X -indirect <machine>' works very well!\nThe configuration:\n\n\t\t- starting the 'xdm' at boot time with no servers specified\n\t\t   in Xservers\n\t\t- starting the X-server at boot time with X -indirect localhost\n\n\t     ---> the chooser menu appears with the machines named in\n\t\t  Xacces bye\n\t\t\t'*\tCHOOSER <machine1> <machine2> ... BROADCAST\t\n\t\t- the number of users on this machines and the load is \n\t\t    displayed correct\n\n\t\t- selecting an other machine than my own host the X-server\n\t\t   starts and nothing happens, after a time out the CHOOSER menu\n\t\t   appears again.\n\nI know the xdm bug in X11R4, but all machines running X11R5\n\nPlease help\n\t\t\tLars\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Some articles on the topic: \n\n\nRTw  12\/23 0859  GULF ARABS DEMAND IRAN WITHDRAWAL FROM ISLANDS \n\n (Eds: updates with end of summit details, quotes) \n    By Youssef Azmeh \n    ABU DHABI, Dec 23, Reuter - Gulf Arab states, emerging from a summit\nthat restored \ntheir unity after almost three months of crisis, piled pressure on Iran\non Wednesday to \nreverse its virtual annexation of a strategic Gulf island. \n    They issued a statement after a three-day Gulf Cooperation Council\nsummit saying Iran \nhad to show proof of its good neighbourly intentions by rescinding\nmeasures that \"rocked \nGulf stability and security.\" \n    The leaders avoided the anti-Iranian rhetoric of recent statements\nby Egypt, which \nengineered a last minute settlement of a border row between Saudi Arabia\nand Qatar that \nallowed all members to attend the summit. \n    Egypt said its fears about Iranian intentions in the region and\nTehran's alleged \nencouragement of Moslem fundamentalist unrest were largely behind\nPresident Hosni \nMubarak's mediation. \n    The GCC statement stressed that developing relations between the\nGulf Arab states and \nIran \"is linked to enhacing confidence and to measures Iran might take\nin line with its \ncommitment to the principle of good neighbourliness and the respect of\nthe sovreignty and \nterritorial integrity of the region's states.\" \n    It denounced Iran's measures on the island of Abu Musa, which it\nshares with the \nUnited Arab Emirates, and the continued occupation of the Greater and\nLesser Tumbs \nislands. \n    Iran earlier this year extended its control over Abu Musa beyond a\nsmall garrison it \nestablished there in 1971 under an agreement with the UAE emirate of Sharjah. \n    It has since rescinded orders expelling foreigners who worked on the\nisland for the \nUAE government. But diplomats say it continues to exercise its authority\nover the whole \nisland, which the UAE sess as as virtual annexation. \n    The Tumbs were occupied by the former Shah of Iran in 1971 and the\nUAE has since the \nAbu Musa crisis erupted insisted that they have to be returned as part\nof a general \nsettlement. \n    The GCC leaders called on the U.N. to maintain sanctions against\nIraq for not fully \nimplementing Security Council resolutions following its 1990 invasion of\nKuwait. \n    They endorsed once again the \"Damascus Declaration,\" a pact signed\nwith Egypt and \nSyria after their troops took part in the U.S. led alliance that drove\nIraqi troops out of \nKuwait. \n    But delegates said the leaders were unable to agree the details of a\nfund they \nannounced they would create at their last summit in Kuwait last year\nwhich would have \nhelped Egypt's and Syria's economic development programme. \n    They said the leaders could not agree on a breakdown of\ncontributions from each state \nalthough the total amount had been scaled down to $6 billion from the\n$10 billion agreed \nlast year. \n    The fact that the leaders of all GCC states -- Saudi Arabia,\nBahrain, Kuwait, Oman and \nQatar -- attended the summit was seen as a major achievement although\ntheir unity was only \nmaintained with outside help. \n    Most delegations were not too worried for the moment about the slow\nprogress of the \nconservative rulers discussions on a future security structure for the\nregion that boasts \nthe bulk of global oil and gas reserves. \n    The leaders were unable to choose between two proposals. \n    One put forward by a summit committee headed by Oman's Sultan Qaboos\nto create a \n100,000-man rapid deployment force that could rush to defend any member\nagainst external \naggression, such as Iraq's invasion of Kuwait. \n    Another was a Saudi-supported plan to expand the existing 10,000-man\n\"Peninsula \nShield\" force which had so far played a largely symbolic role and is\ncommanded by a Saudi \ngeneral. \n    Little headway was made on plans for a reginal common market\nalthough the summit \ncalled for concrete proposals to be submitted to next year's summit due\nto be held in \nSaudi Arabia next December. \n REUTER YA DYA DJG \n\n\n\nRTw  12\/23 0835  GULF LEADERS END SUMMIT \n\n    ABU DHABI, Dec 23, Reuter - Gulf Arab states ended a three-day\nannual summit on \nWednesday with an appeal to Iran to end its occupation of three\nstrategic Gulf islands as \na condition for restoring friendly ties across the Gulf. \n    A joint statement issued after the summit, marked by relief over the\nsettlement of a \nrow between two Gulf Cooperation Council members, also called for\ncontinued U.N. sanctions \nagainst Iraq. \n    It said Baghdad had failed to implement key Security Council\ndecisions following the \nexpulsion of its troops from Kuwait early last year. \n    The summit broke no new ground on steps to achieve a Gulf common\nmarket, but called on \nofficials to present a plan for common external tarrifs for all six\nmembers to the next \nsummit which will be held in Saudi Arabia in December 1993. \n    The statement stressed that developing relations between the Gulf\nArab states and Iran \n\"is linked to enhacing confidence and to measures Iran might take in\nline with its \ncommitment to the principle of good neighbourliness and the respect of\nthe sovreignty and \nterritorial integrity of the region's states.\" \n    It denounced Iran's measures on the island of Abu Musa, which it\nshares with the \nUnited Arab Emirates, and the continued occupation of the smaller\nislands, the Greater and \nLesser Tumbs. \n    It expressed deep regret and extreme concern for the unjustified\nIranian measures \nwhich contradict a proclaimed wish to develop relations and called on\nIran to rescind \nthose measures and end the occupation which it said was \"shaking peace\nand stability in \nthe area.\" \n    Iran earlier this year extended its control over Abu Musa beyond a\nsmall garrison it \nestablished there in 1971 under an agreement with the UAE emirate of Sharjah. \n    It has since rescinded orders expelling foreigners who worked on the\nisland for the \nUAE government but diplomats in the region say that its security forces\ncontinue to \nexercise their authority over the whole island. \n    The UAE has seen this as virtual annexation. \n    The Tumbs were occupied by the former Shah of Iran in 1971 and the\nUAE has since the \nAbu Musa crisis erupted insisted that they have to be returned as part\nof a general \nsettlement. \n REUTER YA DYA DJG \n\n\nRTw  12\/26 1441  IRAN HINTS IT READY TO GO TO WAR OVER ISLANDS \n\n (Eds: updates with SNSC statement) \n    NICOSIA, Dec 26, Reuter - Iran told its Gulf Arab neighbours on\nSaturday it was ready \nto defend militarily three disputed islands, reminding them of its\neight-year war with \nIraq. \n    \"Our eight-year defence (in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war) has proved to\nthe world that \nour brave nation will never hesitate to defend the sovereignty and\nsafeguard the \nterritorial integrity of Iran,\" Iran's Supreme National Security Council\n(SNSC) said. \n    A meeting of the heads of the six-nation Gulf Cooperation Council\nvoiced full support \non Wednesday for the United Arab Emirates (UAE) in its dispute with Iran\nover the Gulf \nislands of Abu Musa, Greater Tumb and Lesser Tumb. \n    The move has triggered strong Iranian criticism and warnings.\nBesides the UAE, the GCC \nalso groups Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar and Saudi Arabia. \n    Iranian President Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, who chaired the SNSC's\nmeeting on \nSaturday, said during his Friday prayer sermon at Tehran University:\n\"Iran is surely \nstronger than the likes of you. To reach these islands one has to cross\na sea of blood.\" \n    The SNSC, quoted by the official Iranian news agency IRNA received\nin Cyprus, also \ncriticised the GCC and described its support of the UAE as \"irresponsible.\" \n   \"No country will ever be able to covet even an inch of Iranian soil,\"\nsaid the SNSC. \n    Earlier on Saturday, the English language Tehran Times, believed to\nbe close to the \nForeign Ministry, said the UAE should be aware that Iran's\nself-restraint had certain \nlimits. \n    It dismissed a UAE claim to the islands as unfounded and said a 1971\nagreement to \nshare Abu Musa with the UAE emirate of Sharjah still applied. \n    \"The idea of Abu Dhabi officials that Tehran would always refrain\nfrom responding to \nthe blows inflicted by them was \"childish,\" Tehran Times said. \n    IRNA said the newspaper was commenting on the GCC statement which\nurged Iran to \nreverse what it says is the annexation of Abu Musa island and to pull\nout of the two other \nislands. \n    Iran says the islands near the entrance to the Gulf have\nhistorically belonged to it. \nThe dispute flared this year after Iran tightened its control over Abu Musa. \n REUTER AF JCH \n\nRTw  12\/28 1011  TEHRAN PAPER WANTS IRAN REVIVE CLAIM TO BAHRAIN ","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nExactly my point.  If you'd watch games more closely, you'd see a lot \nof goons going after him.  Ulf is one of the main reasons why less physical \nplayers for Pgh are left alone.  Ulf plays rough hockey, but only when \nother players are putting the rush on Mario or Jagr.  If you want to say anyone\non the Penguins is a cheap shot or a goon, say it's Jennings or Caufield.  Don'tslander a good defenseman because your favorite players can't beat the Pens\neven when they take dives (like Gartner) to try for the cheap penalties.\n\n\nHey, that's fine!  If a player does something stupid, he should be penalized\nincluding Ulf.  Or Mario (you're not likely to see that happen) or anyone else for that matter.  It's pointless to say any one person is a cheap-shot goon,     because you'll see EVERYONE take a cheap shot now and then, especially if you'resomeone who is shadowed as much as Ulf is.\n\n\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nWell, Dave, I would have to disagree with you there.  Satan himself could\nown the team, and I'd be happy as long as the Oilers stayed in Edmonton.\nSelfish, but true.  I don't want to see the Oilers move, no matter who\ntheir owner is.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":" \n \n       Cute word angst.  Conveys volumes.\n \n       I'd be interested in this particular definition of \"we.\"  It's\nsuch a fluid pronoun.\n \n \n       The BD were a paranoid little cult out in the middle of nowhere,\nwhich all of a sudden had their worst paranoid fears reinforced.\n \n       Joy.\n \n \n       Yes, they probably should have, although how many paranoid\nnuts can say they held off the feds for 51 days?\n \n \n        The voting booth is highly over-rated.  People need to get up\noff their lazy butts more than every year or every two years.  Hell,\nmost don't even do that.\n \n \n        No, because \"we\" have decided that it doesn't make enough\ndifference to \"us\" to get up and do something.  That's something,\nfor instance, a lot of people who go speak against gun control\nbills at their local government.  Dozens of \"pro-gun\" speakers\nshow up and few if any antis do, but  they often win anyway.\n \n        Why?  Because it doesn't matter who shows up, it matters\nwho's willing to scream afterwards.  And it isn't that most people\ngive a damn one way of the other, but that they don't.  Nobody\ngives a damn about anybody beyond their own little worlds.\n \n \n       The general public's usually not even read the constitution.\nAnd what they have learned is a distorted picture of the whole thing.\n ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I'm using BC++'s ObjectWindows (3.1), trying to resond to the left button\ndouble click message WM_LBUTTONDBLCLK in a combo box. My codes look like:\n\nclass MyComboBox : public TComboBox\n{\npublic:\n\tMyComboBox(PTWindowsObject AParent, int ResourceId, WORD ATextLen) :\n\t\tTComboBox(AParent, ResourceId, ATextLen) {};\n\tvirtual void WMLButtonDblClk(RTMessage Msg) = [WM_FIRST + WM_LBUTTONDBLCLK];\n};\n\nvoid MyComboBox::WMLButtonDblClk(RTMessage Msg)\n{\n\t...\t\/\/ responding to the message (selecting the item in the list box)\n}\n\nAnything wrong with my program? Any help would be appreciated.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I have posted DISP140.ZIP to alt.binaries.pictures.utilities.\nI will upload this package to SIMTEL20 later.\n\n******   You may distribute this program freely for non-commercial use\n         if no fee is gained.\n******   There is no warranty. The author is not responsible for any\n         damage caused by this program.\n\nImportant changes since Version 1.35:\n  Added support for IRIS.\n  Support Mix\/Concat. two images.\n  Added support for 'batch conversion'.\n  Added support for 'load\/save palette table'.\n  Added support for 'edge enhance'.\n  Added support for 'crop one line'.\n  Added support for 'negate image'.\n  New color quantization option.\n  Fix some minor bugs.\n\n(1) Introduction:\n  This program can let you READ, WRITE and DISPLAY images with different\n  formats. It also let you do some special effects(ROTATION, DITHERING ....)\n  on image. Its main purpose is to let you convert image among different\n  formts.\n  Include simple file management system.\n  Support 'slide show'.\n+ Support 'batch conversion'.\n  There is NO LIMIT on image size.\n  Currently this program supports 8, 15, 16, 24 bits display.\n  If you want to use HiColor or TrueColor, you must have VESA driver.\n  If you want to modify video driver, please read section (8).\n\n\n(2) Hardware Requirement:\n  PC 386 or better. MSDOS 3.3 or higher.\n  min amount of ram is 4M bytes(Maybe less memory will also work).\n  (I recommend min 8M bytes for better performance).\n  Hard disk for swapping(virtual memory).\n\n  The following description is borrowed from DJGPP.\n\n  Supported Wares:\n\n  * Up to 128M of extended memory (expanded under VCPI)\n  * Up to 128M of disk space used for swapping\n  * SuperVGA 256-color mode up to 1024x768\n  * 80387\n  * XMS & VDISK memory allocation strategies\n  * VCPI programs, such as QEMM, DESQview, and 386MAX\n\n  Unsupported:\n\n  * DPMI\n  * Microsoft Windows\n\n  Features: 80387 emulator, 32-bit unix-ish environment, flat memory\n  model, SVGA graphics.\n\n\n(3) Installation:\n  Video drivers, emu387 and go32.exe are borrowed from DJGPP.\n  (If you use Western Digital VGA chips, read readme.wd)\n  (This GO32.EXE is a modified version for vesa and is COMPLETELY compatible\n   with original version)\n  *** But some people report that this go32.exe is not compatible with\n      other DJGPP programs in their system. If you encounter this problem,\n      DON'T put go32.exe within search path.\n\n  *** Please read runme.bat for how to run this program.\n\n  If you choose xxxxx.grn as video driver, add 'nc 256' to environment\n    GO32.\n\n  For example, go32=driver x:\/xxxxx\/xxxxx.grn nc 256\n\n  If you don't have 80x87, add 'emu x:\/xxxxx\/emu387' to environment GO32.\n\n  For example, go32=driver x:\/xxxxx\/xxxxx.grd emu x:\/xxxxx\/emu387\n\n  **** Notes: 1. I only test tr8900.grn, et4000.grn and vesa.grn.\n                 Other drivers are not tested.\n              2. I have modified et4000.grn to support 8, 15, 16, 24 bits\n                 display. You don't need to use vesa driver.\n                 If et4000.grn doesn't work, please try vesa.grn.\n              3. For those who want to use HiColor or TrueColor display,\n                 please use vesa.grn(except et4000 users).\n                 You can find vesa BIOS driver from :\n                   wuarchive.wustl.edu: \/mirrors\/msdos\/graphics\n                   godzilla.cgl.rmit.oz.au: \/kjb\/MGL\n\n\n(4) Command Line Switch:\n\n    Usage : display [-d|--display initial_display_type]\n                    [-s|--sort sort_method]\n                    [-h|-?]\n\n    Display type: 8(SVGA,default), 15, 16(HiColor), 24(TrueColor)\n    Sort method: 'name', 'ext'\n\n\n(5) Function Key:\n\n    F2 : Change disk drive.\n\n    CTRL-A -- CTRL-Z : change disk drive.\n\n    F3 : Change filename mask. (See match.doc)\n\n    F4 : Change parameters.\n\n    F5 : Some effects on picture, eg. flip, rotate ....\n\n    F7 : Make Directory.\n\n    t : Tag file.\n\n    + : Tag group files. (See match.doc)\n\n    T : Tag all files.\n\n    u : Untag file.\n\n    - : Untag group files. (See match.doc)\n\n    U : Untag all files.\n\n    Ins : Change display type (8,15,16,24) in 'read' & 'screen' menu.\n\n    F6,m,M : Move file(s).\n\n+   ALT-M : Move single file(ignore tag).\n\n    F8,d,D : Delete file(s).\n\n+   ALT-D : Delete single file(ignore tag).\n\n    r,R : Rename file.\n\n    c,C : Copy File(s).\n\n+   ALT-C : Copy single file(ignore tag).\n\n    z,Z : Display first 10 bytes in Ascii, Hex and Dec modes.\n\n    f,F : Display disk free space.\n\n    Page Up\/Down : Move one page.\n\n    TAB : Change processing target.\n\n    Arrow keys, Home, End, Page Up, Page Down: Scroll image.\n      Home: Left Most.\n      End: Right Most.\n      Page Up: Top Most.\n      Page Down: Bottom Most.\n      in 'screen' & 'effect' menu :\n        Left,Right arrow: Change display type(8, 15, 16, 24 bits).\n\n+   CTRL-Arrow keys : Crop image by one line(in graphics mode).\n\n    s,S : Slide Show(show tagged files). ESCAPE to terminate.\n\n+   b,B : Batch conversion(convert tagged files to single format).\n\n+   w,W : Wait\/Pause in slide show.\n\n    ALT-X : Quit program without prompting.\n\n    ALT-A : Reread directory.\n\n    Escape : Abort function and return.\n\n\n(6) Support Format:\n\n  Read: GIF(.gif), Japan MAG(.mag), Japan PIC(.pic), Sun Raster(.ras),\n        Jpeg(.jpg), XBM(.xbm), Utah RLE(.rle), PBM(.pbm), PGM(.pgm),\n        PPM(.ppm), PM(.pm), PCX(.pcx), Japan MKI(.mki), Tiff(.tif),\n        Targa(.tga), XPM(.xpm), Mac Paint(.mac), GEM\/IMG(.img),\n        IFF\/ILBM(.lbm), Window BMP(.bmp), QRT ray tracing(.qrt),\n        Mac PICT(.pct), VIS(.vis), PDS(.pds), VIKING(.vik), VICAR(.vic),\n+       FITS(.fit), Usenix FACE(.fac), IRIS(.sgi).\n\n        the extensions in () are standard extensions.\n\n  Write: GIF, Sun Raster, Jpeg, XBM, PBM, PGM, PPM, PM, Tiff, Targa,\n         XPM, Mac Paint, Ascii, Laser Jet, IFF\/ILBM, Window BMP,\n+        Mac PICT, VIS, FITS, FACE, PCX, GEM\/IMG, IRIS.\n\n  All Read\/Write support full color(8 bits), grey scale, b\/w dither,\n      and 24 bits image, if allowed for that format.\n\n\n(7) Detail:\n\n   Initialization:\n      Set default display type to highest display type.\n      Find allowable screen resolution(for .grn video driver only).\n\n   1. When you run this program, you will enter 'read' menu. Whthin this\n      menu you can press any function key. If you move or copy\n      files, you will enter 'write' menu. the 'write' menu is much like\n      'read' menu, but only allow you to change directory.\n      The header line in 'read' menu includes \"(d:xx,f:xx,t:xx)\".\n        d : display type. f: number of files. t: number of tagged files.\n      pressing SPACE in 'read' menu will let you select which format to use\n        for reading current file.\n      pressing RETURN in 'read' menu will let you reading current file. This\n        program will automatically determine which format this file is.\n        The procedure is: First, check magic number. If fail, check\n        standard extension. Still fail, report error.\n      pressing s or S in 'read' menu will do 'Slide Show'.\n        If delay time is 0, program will wait until you hit a key\n          (except ESCAPE).\n        If any error occurs, program will make a beep.\n+       'w' or 'W' to pause, any key to continue.\n        ESCAPE to terminate.\n      pressing Ins in 'read' menu will change display type.\n      pressing ALT-X in 'read' menu will quit program without prompting.\n+     pressing F5 will turn on 'effect' menu.\n\n   2. Once image file is successfully read, you will enter 'screen' menu.\n      You can do special effect on image.\n      pressing RETURN: show image.\n        in graphic mode, press RETURN, SPACE or ESCAPE to return to text\n        mode.\n      pressing TAB: change processing target. This program allows you to do\n        special effects on 8-bit or 24-bit image.\n      pressing Left,Right arrow: change display type. 8, 15, 16, 24 bits.\n      pressing SPACE: save current image to file.\n        B\/W Dither: save as black\/white image(1 bit).\n        Grey Scale: save as grey image(8 bits).\n        Full Color: save as color image(8 bits).\n        True Color: save as 24-bit image.\n\n        This program will ask you some questions if you want to write image\n        to file. Some questions are format-dependent. Finally This program\n        will prompt you a filename. If you want to save file under another\n        directory other than current directory, please press SPACE. after\n        pressing SPACE, you will enter 'write2' menu. You can change\n        directory to what you want. Then,\n\n        pressing SPACE: this program will prompt you 'original' filename.\n        pressing RETURN: this program will prompt you 'selected' filename\n                      (filename under bar).\n\n\n  3. This program supports 8, 15, 16, 24 bits display.\n\n  4. This Program is MEMORY GREEDY. If you don't have enough memory,\n     the performance is poor.\n\n  5. If you want to save 8 bits image :\n       try GIF then TIFF(LZW) then TARGA then Sun Raster then BMP then ...\n\n     If you want to save 24 bits image (lossless):\n       try TIFF(LZW) or TARGA or ILBM or Sun Raster\n       (No one is better for true 24bits image)\n\n  6. I recommend Jpeg for storing 24 bits images, even 8 bits images.\n\n  7. Not all subroutines are fully tested\n\n  8. This document is not well written. If you have any PROBLEM, SUGGESTION,\n     COMMENT about this program,\n     Please send to u7711501@bicmos.ee.nctu.edu.tw (140.113.11.13).\n     I need your suggestion to improve this program.\n     (There is NO anonymous ftp on this site)\n\n\n(8) Tech. information:\n  Program (user interface and some subroutines) written by Jih-Shin Ho.\n  Some subroutines are borrowed from XV(2.21) and PBMPLUS(dec 91).\n  Tiff(V3.2) and Jpeg(V4) reading\/writing are through public domain\n    libraries.\n  Compiled with DJGPP.\n  You can get whole DJGPP package from SIMTEL20 or mirror sites.\n    For example, wuarchive.wustl.edu: \/mirrors\/msdos\/djgpp\n\n\n(9) For Thoese who want to modify video driver:\n   1. get GRX source code from SIMTEL20 or mirror sites.\n   2. For HiColor and TrueColor:\n        15 bits : # of colors is set to 32768.\n        16 bits : # of colors is set to 0xc010.\n        24 bits : # of colors is set to 0xc018.\n\n\nAcknowledgment:\n  I would like to thank the authors of XV and PBMPLUS for their permission\n    to let me use their subroutines.\n  Also I will thank the authors who write Tiff and Jpeg libraries.\n  Thank DJ. Without DJGPP I can't do any thing on PC.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nIMHO this is the most untrustworthy, silly stat, by today's rules, in all \nof baseball.  My understanding is to qualify as a save a pitcher cannot \npitch more than three innings and the potential tying run must at least \nappear in the on-deck circle.  Also, the lead a pitcher enters with cannot \nexcede three runs.\n\nI believe that the official scorers must assert more of their authority in \ndetermining winners\/savers\/etc.  For instance, a pitcher can come in in the \nninth with a lead, blow the lead, fall behind, have his team come back in \nthe next half inning and earn the win.  Has this pitcher earned a win, no \nway.\n\nI guy could pitch five strong innings of middle relief and see his \nteammates rally to tie the score.  Assume he came in to start the fourth \nand left after the eighth.  His teammate holds the opposition scoreless in \nthe ninth and they score a run in the bottom of the ninth to win.  The \nthird pitcher earns the win and the middle reliever gets no \"stat\" \nsatisfaction.\n\nMike","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":" \nWell, for one thing most, if not all the Dividians (depending on whether\nthey could show they acted in self-defense and there were no illegal\nweapons), could have gone on with their life as they were living it.\nNo one was forcing them to give up their religion or even their\nlegal weapons. The Dividians had survived a change in leadership\nbefore so even if Koresch himself would have been convicted and\nsent to jail, they still could have carried on.\n \nI don't think the Dividians were insane, but I don't see a reason\nfor mass suicide (if the fire was intentional set by some of the\nDividians.) We also don't know that, if the fire was intentionally\nset from inside, was it a generally know plan or was this something\nonly an inner circle knew about, or was it something two or three\nfelt they had to do with or without Koresch's knowledge\/blessing, etc.?\nI don't know much about Masada. Were some people throwing others over?\nDid mothers jump over with their babies in their arms?","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Unable to stand the pain anymore, my wife bought the Corbin Gunfighter\nand Lady with Passenger Backrest for my Hawk GT.\n\nIt came with no instructions, but it came 2 weeks earlier than they\nsaid it would.  Installation would have been very easy, but the seat\nfastening hardware was apparently always on the wrong sides with\nthe stock seat!  It never was easy to put on.  Once I figured that\nout, the new seat went on the first try.  The passenger backrest, though,\ndoes not fit as I thought it might.  The supplied screw to set the \nbackrest angle does not fit, and I have not yet found a suitable, \nhard, ( SAE grade 8, or perhaps 5 ) 1\/4-20 bolt that fits.  There is a\na soft bolt in there now -- just don't lean back.\n\nThe driver's section of the seat is a bit wider.  Seems comfortable\nenough, but then again I put about 5000 miles on the stock seat\nwithout a thought.  The passenger's section has about 8 times the \nvolume of foam that the stock seat has, and from my short test it\nseems much more comfortable.  The backrest helps a bit, but I've not \nhas enough time to really test it.  The backrest also comes with a \nsmall pocket.  Its now more difficult to swing my leg up over the \n10\" taller seat.\n\nIf I go on the three-notch ride soon ( Dixville, Pinkham & Smugglers),\nI'll give a more complete report, but in general it seems like an\nimprovement.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":" \n \nWow, this is news to me---it started in Tarsus--you know, where Paul\nof NT fame was from.  Not to be nasty, but get a clue, read\n_The Orgins of the Mithraic Mysteries_ by DUlansey!\n \nHey hasn't anyone read Manly P Hall's works?  Perhaps it might be\nworth a try....","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\t  -- Also: more customizable. I can make the computer do what *I* want it to do,\nWhereas with MSW I have to do what microsoft wants me to do...\nHow do I bind control-left mousebutton to type 'hello world!' (Not that I'd want to do THAT, but..)","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"For sale:\n\n1981 Oldsmobile Omega four door.  Gray, power windows, power steering,\npower brakes, remote trunk release.  Starts reliably and runs well,\nbut needs some work.  $400 obo.\n\nFor details, email or (708)864-0526.\n-- \nMichael A. Atkinson    | There is no try, there is only Dew.\nasbestos@nwu.edu       | ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Has anyone else observed this behaviour and if so, what have you\ndone to cure it?\n\nOne workstation in a WfW network goes deaf to any form of communication from\nother workstations until it goes out on the network itself. From then on other\nworkstatons can interact with it until some time later when it goes deaf \nagain. ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nMurderous, huh?  Yeah, there was all sorts of carnage going on there in\nthe 60 YEARS they were there -- BEFORE the government assaulted them.\nOh, I forgot -- you probably consider self-defense as murder.\n\n\nDamn right.  This is not a partisan thing; it's about individual \nliberties -- the right of a citizen to be left the hell alone.\n\n\nThat's another indication that you don't understand the issue.\n\n\n\n\"Our appropriations are coming up soon.  We need a good PR boost.  Let's\nfind a socially unpopular group who happen to have a lot of guns, go in\nlike gangbusters, be heros, and have the local media get it all on video \ntape.  Then we won't have to worry about our budget until next year.\"\n\n\nWhy don't you knit one to match his jogging outfit?\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nWhat is \"SO\" supposed to signify?  I prefer the companionship of a\nperson, not a euphemism.\n\n\nThankfully, you got the gender right.  For I am not a deviant.\n\n\nSexual deviants do not comprise a \"political minorit[y]\".\n\n\nI only associate with girls who do indeed have self-respect.  But were\nI to find myself with the sort who would be inclined to head out the\ndoor on account of my views regarding the aberrant behavior known as\n\"homosexuality\", I would encourage her to indeed do so, and I would\nfurther advise her not to let the door whack her on the backside on\nthe way out.  Who needs such an airhead?\n\n\n\nOh, I can't do anything _BUT_ count on it.  After all, it is\ninevitable, for it is part of the natural order of things.  Throughout\nhistory, nature has always asserted itself.  Don't be so arrogant as\nto assume that this foolish and misguided generation can change the\nnature of man where practically every other generation has failed.\nGreater men than you haven't been able to do this.  The above _MOST_\n_CERTAINLY_ _WILL_ happen, no matter how much you may wish to pretend\notherwise.\n\nMoreover, I'm not your \"sweetheart\".","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Hello:\n\tcan anybody help me to find a program that converts a format named\n\t\"raw\" (also known as \"img\") to the \"gif\" format or \"jpeg\" one.\n\tIt's desirable to be for a unix machine than for a PC.\n\n\t(\n\t\"Raw\" format of a N*N image is a file that contain a tail of \n\tN*N characters, each one referencing to the k*N+j pixel of the \n\tmonocrome image, where k and j lies between 0 and N-1.\n\t).\n\t\t","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Can you help me to understand how a CardPhone operates and \nhow the values are stored on the phonecard..","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI think the only thing to watch for is the number of attachment\nstraps.  Most come with 3 and some with 4, I have a Bagman 4 strap\ntankbag and because the rear of the tank is so narrow the fit\nis not optimal.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"[Sorry if I posted this to the wrong place, wasn't sure where this\nshould go...]\n\nModel PS6600 - 64K memory, storage for telephone numbers, addresses,\nmemos, schedule, calendar, calculator.  Password protection, 6 line\ndisplay, full keyboard, 32 characters per line.  Search through all data\nstorage areas for keywords, transmit to or receive entries via IBM\ncompatible computers with optional interface kit.  Uses 2 AAA batteries,\nand 1 lithium battery for backup.  Also has world time, sound, still has\n1 year Service Merchandise warranty left, with manual.  Sells new for\n$90, asking $65 (shipping included).","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nGood - now let's look at those sections.  They'll prove my point.\n\n\nNote that this doesn't affect all concealed carry.  (Look after the\nword \"except\".)  It always helps to read the law before commenting on\nit.\n\nWould a prudent storekeeper carry concealed?  How about someone at\nhome?  Note that both are legal, and a lot of \"common\" people qualify\nfor one or the other.\n\n-andy","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nThey _finally_ started going to the net!  See what happens when you \ncreate some traffic?  Muller deserves full marks (what a player!),\nand Damphousse finally started skating.  Roy (thankyouthankyouthankyou)\nwas excellent.  Did you see that third period save on Young?  And the \ndefense was taking out Quebec players in the zone.\n\nAnybody else wonder if Hextall will feel like a dweeb when he finds \nout that the winning goal went in off his own D-man's skate?  Whatta\nsuck.  Although he _is_ playing really well.\n\n\nSure it does.  On Sunday when the B's are golfing and the Habs are tied\n2-2 you'll see what I mean! :-) :-)\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Giday netters!  Just got a used Newlife 25 accelerator, with FPU, and i \nwas wondering about a few points.  \n-Anyone know the current driver version for it??\n-Can it handle the 16-bit grayscale card, if i get the video option\n-Why would it be hating my hard drive?(can't use the accelerator and \n\thard drive at the same time). Do i need a new driver on my drive?\n\tWhat make?\n-Thanks,\n\tJason","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nYou hadn't made that clear; I'm glad to have it clarified! So you're\na (physical) objectivist, after all, right?\n\n\nWavicle! Next question? ;-)\n--\nMark Pundurs","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I've just started messing with X Windows under Linux, and I've run into this\n\"-<toolkit options>\" thing in the man-pages of a number of X clients.\n\nWhere can I get a list of these options?  Is this only an \"xview\" thing?\n(If so, would some kind soul show me how to set it up under Linux?)","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"It troubles me that there have been so many posts recently trying to support\nthe doctrine of Original Sin.  This is primarily a Catholic doctrine, with no\nother purpose than to defend the idea of infant baptism.  Even among, its\nsupporters, however, people will stop short of saying that unbaptised infants\nwill go to hell.\n\nIt's very easy for just about anyone to come up with a partial list of\nscripture to support any sort of wrong doctrine.  However, if we have the\nheart to persevere in our beliefs to make sure that they are biblically\nbased, then we can come to an understanding of the truth.  Let's now take a\nmore complete look at scripture.\n\nColossians 2:11-12 \"In him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of\nthe sinful nature, not with a circumcision done by Christ, having been\nburied with him in baptism and raised with him through your faith in the\npower of God, who raised him from the dead.\"\n\nIn baptism, we are raised to a new life in Christ (Romans 6:4) through a\npersonal faith in the power of God.  Our parent's faith cannot do this.  Do\ninfants have faith?  Let's look at what the Bible has to say about it.\n\nRomans 10:16-17 \"But not all the Israelites accepted the good news.  For\nIsaiah says, 'Lord, who has believed our message?'  Consequently, faith\ncomes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word\nof Christ.\"\n\nSo then we receive God's gift of faith to us as we hear the message of the\ngospel.  Faith is a possible response to hearing God's word preached.  Kids\nare not yet spiritually, intellectually, or emotionally mature enough to\nrespond to God's word.  Hence they cannot have faith and therefore cannot\nbe raised in baptism to a new life.\n\nEzekiel 18:20 \"The soul who sins will die.  The son will not share the\nguilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son.  The\nrighteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and the\nwickedness of the wicked will be charged against him.\"\n\nIf you read all of Ezekiel 18, you will see that God doesn't hold us guilty\nfor anyone else's sins.  So we can have no original guilt from Adam.\n\nEzekiel 18:31-32 \"Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committted,\nand get a new heart and a new spirit.  Why will you die, O house of Israel?\nFor I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign Lord.\nRepent and live!\"\n\nThe way to please God is to repent and get a new heart and spirit.  Kids\ncannot do this.  Acts 2:38-39 says that when we repent and are baptized, we\nwill then receive a new spirit, the Holy Spirit.  Then we shall live.\n\nNow then that we have a little more background as to why original sin is\nnot Biblical, let's look at some of the scriptures used to support it.\n\nRomans 5:12 \"Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and\ndeath through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all\nsinned--\"\n\nSin and death entered the world when the first man sinned.  Death came to\neach man because each man sinned.  Note that it's good to read through all\nof Romans 5:12-21.  Some of the verses are easier to misunderstand than\nothers, but if we read them in context we will see that they are all\nsaying basically the same thing.  Let's look at one such.\n\nRomans 5:19 \"For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many\nwere made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many\nwill be made righteous.\"\n\nThrough the disobedience of each individual, each was made a sinner.  In\nthe same way, through the obedience of Jesus, each will be made righteous.\nWe must remember when reading through this passage that death came to each\nman only because each man sinned, not because of guilt from Adam.\nOtherwise the Bible would contradict itself.  I encourage you to read\nthrough this whole passage on your own, looking at it from this point of\nview to see if it doesn't all fit together.\n\nPsalm 51:5 \"Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother\nconceived me.\"\n\nThis whole Psalm is a wonderful example of how we should humble ourselves\nbefore God in repentance for sinning.  David himself was a man after God's\nown heart and wrote the Psalm after committing adultry with Bathsheba and\nmurdering her husband.  All that David is saying here is that he can't\nremember a time when he wasn't sinful.  He is humbling himself before God\nby confessing his sinfulness.  His saying that he was sinful at birth is\na hyperbole.  The Bible, being inspired by God, isn't limited to a literal\ninterpetation, but also uses figures of speech as did Jesus (John 16:25).\nFor another example of hyperbole, see Luke 14:26.\n\nNow then, even though people see that baptism requires faith and that\noriginal sin is not Biblical, they will still argue that infant baptism is\nnecessary because children sin by being selfish - not sharing toys with\nother children, by being mean - hitting others and fighting, etc.\n\nCertainly we have observed children doing wrong things, but my gut feeling\nis always that they don't know any better.  Let's look to see if the Bible\nagrees with my gut feelings.\n\nIsaiah 7:14-15 \"Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign:  The\nvirgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him\nImmanuel.  He will eat curds and honey when he knows enough to reject the\nwrong and choose the right.\"\n\nNow just about any church leader will tell you that this is a prophecy\nabout Jesus.  If they don't, then point them to Matthew 1:23 and find a new\nleader.  Jesus certainly couldn't have had less knowledge than normal human\nbabies.  Yet this passage says that he had to mature to a certain extent\nbefore he would know the difference between right and wrong.  We see that\nhe did grow and become wiser in Luke 2:40 and 2:52.  The implication is\nthat Jesus did wrong things as a child before he knew to choose right over\nwrong.  Since we know that Jesus was perfect -- without sin, we have rather\nconclusive proof that babies cannot sin because they don't know to choose\nthe right instead of the wrong.\n\nJesus himself was baptized, albeit with John's baptism, not as an infant,\nbut as a thirty-year-old man (Luke 3:21-23) and started his ministry as\nsoon as he was baptized (Luke 3:23).  Immediately afterwards, he was\ntempted by the devil (Luke 4:1-13; Matthew 4:1-11; Mark 1:12-13).\n\nThank you for your attention.\n\nModerator - this should finish up the subject for a while.  Perhaps you\nwould like to make a FAQ out of this response so that you can repost it\nfrom time to time when the topic comes up.  Feel free to rearrange the\ncontents if you would like to, but please send me a copy of the final FAQ.\n\nSincerely,\n\nAaron Cardenas\naaronc@athena.mit.edu","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nYou can find what you're looking for on hundreds of sites worldwide.  Try\n\n\tanonymous ftp to nic.funet.fi (Finland)\n\n\t\/pub\/unix\/4.3bsd\/net2\/lib\/libc\/gen\/crypt.c.Z\n\nThis includes source code for fully-functional DES encryption and decryption.\n\nThere are some who believe that public domain code is exportable, some\nwho don't.  Make your own judgements, but it seems obvious to me.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Are there any widgets, function \n\tlibrarys for drawing networks, \n\tgraphs etc ? (Not tree views) \n\tFreeware, shareware, comercial...\n\tLike this, for instance:\n                                                               \n                          O\n                          |\n                          |\n                O---------O=======>O\n               \/ \\        |\n              \/   \\       |\n        O----O.....O      O\n            \/ \\\n           \/   \\ \n          O     O\n\n\t* Just by giving the associations \n\t  between the nodes. Automatic\n\t  layout generation.\n\n\t* It would be nice if any node \n\t  symbols could be used. Maybe \n\t  even to insert widgets as nodes.\n\n\t* Using different line styles etc.\n\t  for describing associations.\n\n\tAny information would be appreciated,\n\tthanks in advance,","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"  It is my intent to cut the government off at the knees with the pen\n(and keyboard).  True, the lawyer and the lawbook only go so far, but\nI agree that it is best to use those resources to the maximum extent\nbefore seriously contemplating anything more... disruptive.\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"the\n\nJust use a thin film of epoxy.  That!s what I did.  Epoxy conducts heat\nfairly well.  And my heat sink gets warm to prove it.  I looked for the\nstuff myself & my local EE jocks said to use epoxy.\n\nHave fun.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nHow about a gun buy-back\/charity?  Get some sponsors to fund the\npurchase of used firearms, have a gunsmith check them over, and give\nor sell them at a low price to poor persons wishing to own firearms. ;-)\n[OK, you guys can work out the details of who is \"needy\", etc...]\n\n--\nCharles Scripter   *   cescript@phy.mtu.edu\nDept of Physics, Michigan Tech, Houghton, MI 49931","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nSociety is the collection of individuals which will fall under self-defined\nrules.  In terms of UN decisions all the sets of peoples who are represented\nat the UN are considered part of that society. If we then look at US federal\nlaws provided by representatives of purely US citizens then the society for\nthat case would be the citizens of the US and so on.\n\n\n\"Acceptable\" are those behaviours which are either legislated for the\nsociety by representatives of that society or those behaviours which are\nnon-verbally and, in effect, non-consciously, such as picking your nose on\nthe Oprah Winfrey show, no-one does it, but there is no explicit law against\ndoing it. In many cases there are is no definition of whether or not a\nbehaviour is \"acceptable\", but one can deduce these behaviours by\nobservation.\n\n\n\nIn an increasingly litigation mad society, this trap is becoming exceedingly\ndifficult to avoid. With the infusion and strengthening of ethnic cultures\nin American (and Australian, to bring in my local perspective) culture the\nboundaries of acceptable behaviour are ever widening and legislation may\neventually become the definition of moral behaviour. For instance, some\ncultures' dominant religion call for live sacrifice of domesticated animals.\nMost fundamental christians would find this practice abhorrent. However, is\nit moral, according to the multicultural american society? This kind of\nproblem may only be definable by legislation. \n\nObviously within any society there will be differences in opinion in what is\nacceptable behaviour or not, and much of this will be due to different\nenvironmental circumstances rather than merely different opinions.  \n\nOne thing is for sure, there is no universal moral code which will suit all\ncultures in all situations.  There may, however, be some globally accepted\nmores which can be agreed upon and instantiated as a globally enforcable\nconcept. The majority of mores will not be common until all peoples upon\nthis earth are living in a similar environment (if that ever happens).","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"ITEM: Klipsch Forte 2 Speakers\nCONDITION: Mint\nAGE: 6 months old\n\nPRICE: $1000\/pair (retail: $1400\/pair)\n\nThese speakers are in perfect condition and used only in audiophile system.\nThey are floor standing and come with all the original packagaing and\nliterature. They are also still under warranty. If you are interested or\nhave  any questions, please feel free to e-mail (pc1o@andrew.cmu.edu) or call\nme at home.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Hi all,\n\tI am working on a project in which I need to brake an image\ninto sub-bands and then work with them.  Since I have never done\nanything like this, don't even understand the concept of sub-bands, I\nwas wondering if there is some software out there that would allow me\nto do this.  Any hints?\nThanks,\n-- ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Greetings all,\n\tCan anyone let me know status of UK law about riding motorcycles.\n\n\tI used to ride one about 12 years ago and never took my DOT test ( One\nof a whole list of things I wished I had done when I was young),but I have passed\nmy car driving test. I now travel from Littlehampton to Brighton every day\nand I'm getting PISSED off with the traffic\/road works. I thinking about getting\na 100cc bike ( Don't Laugh ) just to get \"Streetwise\" and to take my test, then\nto get a bigger one ( 400 to 600 cc ).\n\n\tNow I have been told I don't have to do the CBT but what will I have\nto do to get a full licence ?\n\nThanks in advanced\n\nLeigh \n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Quotes from Our Daily Bread\n\nOur Daily Bread is a devotional help for spiritual growth. One can spend some\nten to fifteen minutes at most reading the daily portion of scriptures and a\nrelated short article that brings the scriptures alive in applying in today's\nsociety. It ends with a saying at the bottom. This article is a collection\nof these sayings.\n\nOur Daily Bread is one of the many ministries\/services provided by Resources for\nBiblical Communication. It is FREE. To receive the literature, just write and\nask for it. The contact addresses are listed below. Write to Radio Bible Class.\n\nCopyright 1989 Radio Bible Class, Grand Rapids, Michigan 49555-0001\n\nCanada: Box 1622, Windsor, Ontario N9A 6Z7\nAustralia: Box 365, Ryde, 2112 NSW\nEurope: Box 1, Carnforth, Lancs., England LA5 9ES\nAfrica: Box 1652, Manzini, Swaziland\nAfrica: PMB 2010, Jos, Nigeria\nPhilippines: Box 288, Greenhills, 1502 Metro Manila\n\nSayings with related scriptures in December\/January\/February 89-90 issue of Our Daily Bread\n\nWhen God saves us, all our sins are forgiven, forgotten, forever!\nRomans 5:1-11\n\nLife with Christ is difficult; without Him it's hopeless.\nEcclesiastes 4:1-6\n\nIt's the sin we cover up that eventually brings us down.\nPsalm 19:7-14\n\nYou're not ready to live until you're ready to die.\nActs 21:1-14\n\nTrusting in God's power prevents panic.\nIsaiah 40:6-17\n\nThe Bible is a record of man's compete ruin in sin and God's compte remedy in Christ. - Barnhouse\n2 Timothy 3:10-17\n\nJesus can change the foulest sinners into the finest saints.\nEphesians 2:1-10\n\nThey witness best who witness with their lives.\nActs 4:23-33\n\nGod came to dwell with man that man might dwell with God.\nPhilippians 2:5-11\n\nA hurting person needs a helping hand, not an accusing finger.\nPsalm 109:1,2, 14-31\n\nWhat you decide about Jesus determines your destiny.\nJohn 20:24-29\n\nWe must go to sinners if we expect sinners to come to the Savior.\nRomans 1:8-15\n\nKnowing that God sees us brings both conviction and cofidence.\nJob 34:21-28\n\nGod's chastening is not cruel but corrective.\nHebrews 12:4-17\n\nWhen you think of all that's good, give thanks to God.\nPsalm 44:1-8\n\nMan's greatest goal: give glory to God.\n1 Peter 5:5-7\n\nGod loves every one of us as if there were but one of us to love.\nRomans 8:31-39\n\nOnly the bread of life can satisfy man's spiritual hunger.\nJohn 6:28-41\n\nConscience can be our compass if the word of God is our chart.\n1 Timothy 4:1-5\n\nSalvation is free, but you must receive it.\nIsaiah 55:1-5\n\nIf we're not as spiritual as we could be, we're not as spiritual as we should be.\n2 Timonty 1:1-7\n\nCircumstances do not make a man, they reveal what he's made of.\nMatthew 1:18-25\n\nMake room for Jesus in your heart, and he will make room for you in heaven.\nMatthew 2:1-18\n\nHeaven's choir came down to sing when heaven's king came down to save.\nLuke 2:1-20\n\nGod's highest gift awakens man's deepest gratitude.\nLuke 2:21-38\n\nServing the Lord is an investment that pays eternal dividends.\n1 Peter 4:12-19\n\nTime misspent is not lived but lost.\nPsalm 39:4-13\n\nThe measure of our love is the measure of our sacrifice.\n1 Peter 4:7-11\n\nGod requires faithfulness; God rewards with fruitfulness.\nLuke 19:11-27\n\nHow you spend time determines how you spend eternity.\nPsalm 90:1-12\n\nIf you aim for nothing, you're sure to hit it.\nDaniel 1:1-8\n\nThe Christian's future is as bright as the promises of God.\nPsalm 23\n\nChrist as Savior brings us peace with God; Christ as Lord brings the peace of God.\nColossians 1:13-20\n\nThey who only sample the word of God never acquire much of a tast for it.\nPsalm 119:97-104\n\nUnless one drinks now of the \"water of life\", he will thirst forever!\nRevelation 22:12-17\n\nA hyprocrite is a person who is not himself on Sunday.\nDaniel 6:1-10\n\nBe life long or short, its completeness depends on what it is lived for.\nEcclesiates 9:1-12\n\nGod loves you and me - let's love each other.\n2 Corinthians 13\n\nIt's always too soon to quit.\nGenesis 37:12-28\n\nThe character we build in this world we carry into the next.\nMatthew 7:24-29\n\nGod sends trials not to impair us but to improves us.\n2 Corinthians 4:8-18\n\nMarriage is either a holy wedlock or an unholy deadlock.\n2 Corinthians 5:11-18\n\nWe are adopted through God's grace to be adapted to God's use.\nGalatians 6:1-10\n\nOur children are watching: what we are speak louder than what we say.\nProverbs 31:10-31\n\nUnion with Christ is the basis for unity among believers.\nPsalm 133\n\nKeep out of your life all that would crowd Christ out of your heart.\nRomans 6:1-14\n\nDon't try to bear tomorrow's burdens with today's grace.\nMatthew 6:25-34\n\nPray as if everything depends on God; work as if everything depends on you.\n2 Kings 20:1-7\n\nSome convictions are nothing more than prejudices.\nGalatians 3:26-29\n\nUnless you velieve, you will not understand. - Augustine\nHebrews 11:1-6\n\nChrist is the only way to heaven; all other paths are detours to doom.\n2 Corinthians 4:1-7\n\nMany Christians are doing nothing, but no Christians have nothing to do!\nJohn 4:31-38\n\nWe bury the seed; God brings the harvest.\nIsaiah 55:8-13\n\nThe texture of eternity is woven on the looms of time.\nEcclesiastes 7:1-6\n\nIt's not just what we know about God but how we use what we know.\n1 Corinthians 8\n\nThe best way to avoid lying is to do nothing that needs to be concealed.\nActs 5:1-11\n\nGod transforms trials into blessing by surrounding them with His love and grace.\n2 Chronicles 20:1-4, 20-30\n\nConfessing your sins is no substitute for forsaking them.\nPsalm 51:1-10\n\nIf you shoot arrows of envy at others, you would yourself.\nPhilippians 1:12-18\n\nHe who has no vision of eternity doesn't know the value of time.\nEphesians 5:8-17\n\nHe who abandons himself to God will never be abandoned by God.\nPsalm 123\n\nNo danger can come so near the Christian that God is not nearer.\nPsalm 121\n\nMany a man lays down his life trying to lay up a fortune.\nMatthew 6:19-24\n\nGod's grace is infinite love expressing itself through infinite goodness.\nPhilippians 1:1-11\n\nOne way to do great things for Christ is to do little things for others.\nRomans 16:1-16\n\nYou rob yourself of being you when you try to do what others are meant to do.\nRomans 12:1-8\n\nDon't pretend to be what you don't intend to be.\nMatthew 23:1-15\n\nMeeting God in our trials is better than getting out of them.\nPsalm 42\n\nIf sinners are to escape God's judgement, God's people must point the way.\nMatthew 24:15-27\n\nIt's not a sin to get angry when you get angry at sin.\nJohn 2:13-22\n\nWe prepare for the darkness by learning to pray in the light.\n1 Samuel 2:1-10\n\nChristianity is not a way of doing certain things but a certain way of doing all things.\nEphesians 5:1-7\n\nBetter to know the truth and beware than to believe a lie and not care.\nJeremiah 28\n\nA true servant does not live to himself, for himself, or by himself.\nGenesis 13\n\nThose who do the most earthly good are those who are heavely mined.\nPhilippians 1:19-26\n\nA good marriage requires a determination to be married for good.\nGenesis 2:18-24\n\nIf you're looking for something to give your life to, look to the one who gave His life for you.\n1 Corinthians 3:1-11\n\nWhen we have nothing left but God, we discover that God is enough.\nPsalm 46\n\nGod is with us inthe darkness as surely as He is with us in the light.\n1 Peter 1:1-9\n\nSome people spend most of their life at the complaint counter.\n1 Thessalonians 5:12-22\n\nOf all creation, only man can say \"yes\" or \"no\" to God.\nGenesis 9:8-17\n\nThe most rewarding end in life is to know the life that never ends.\nEcclesiates 8:10-15\n\nOne of the marks of a well-fed soul is a well read Bible.\nJoshua1:1-9\n\nBecause God gives us all we need, we should give to those in need.\nProverbs 14:20-31\n\nIt's never too early to receive Christ, but at any moment it could be too late.\nLuke 16:19-31\n\nGod's grace keeps pace with whatever we face.\n2 Corinthians 12:7-10\n\nComing together is a beginning; keeping together is progress; working together is success.\n1 Corinthians 12:12-27\n\nWhen we give God our burdens, He gives us a song.\nPsalm 57\n\nDo the thing you fear, and the death of fear is certain. - Emerson\n1 Corinthians 2:1-8","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nIn a 25-pin serial loopback plug, you need to connect the following\npins:\n\npin 1 to pin 7\npin 2 to pin 3\npins 4, 5 and 8 together\npins 6, 11, 20 and 22 together\npins 15, 17 and 23 together,\npin 18 to pin 25.\n\nThat should do it.  Note that *a lot* of these pins are redundant\nin many implementations....\n\nPhil","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"speaking of the sick bastard, i noticed he attends Kent State University.\n \ni guess we have come full circle here. Someone from Kent favoring excessive\nforce by the govenment to subdue polically incorrect thinking.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nYes.\n \n    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^     \n\nNo, look again. While you never *said* it, the implication is pretty clear.\nI'm sorry, but I can only respond to your words, not your true meaning. Usenet\nis a slippery medium. \n\n[deleted wrt the burden of proof]\nLook, I'm not supporting *any* dogmatic position. I'd be a fool to say that\nin the large group of people that are atheists, no people exist who wish to\nproselytize in the same fashion as religion. How many hard atheists do you \nsee posting here, anyway? Maybe I'mm just not looking hard enough...\n\n\nI never meant to do so, although I understand where you might get that idea.\nI was merely using the 'bible' example as an allegory to illustrate my\npoint.\n\n\nEvidence for what? Who? I think I may have lost this thread...\n \n[why theists are arrogant deleted]\n\nGuilty as charged. What I *meant* to say was, the theists who *are* arrogant\nare this way because they say ...  Other than that, I thought my meaning\nwas clear enough. Any position that claims itself as superior to another with\nno supporting evidence is arrogant. Thanks for your apology, btw.\n\n\nExplained above.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Hey Nick!  I got a bounce from postmaster@bnr.ca, it seems that they've never \nheard of a user 'npet'.  You should sort these guys out.\n\n\nTony","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Does anyone know how can I get detailed information about PALs and GALs.\nPlease reply via e-mail.\nThanks a lot in advance.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nAn extremely good example of \"circumstantial evidence!\"\nEvery time these right-wing control-freaks start spouting\nabout prayer in schools, I get this nagging commentary\nfrom the Sermon on the Mount [Matt: 6:5-6] \"And when you\npray, do not imitate the hypocrites: they love to say their\nprayers standing up in the synagogues and at the street\ncorners for people to see them.  I tell you solemnly, they\nhave had their reward.  But when you pray, go to your\nprivate room and, when you have shut your door, pray to\nyour Father who is in that secret place.\"\n\nBut no. THEY want PUBLIC prayers, the better to manipulate\nchildren.  \"Amen\" indeed.\n\n\nI hope you don't mind if I say \"amen\" to this? :-)","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"A CNN factiod in the last few months stated that 40% of all the computers\nin the U.S. are left on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.  I don't recall\nCNN's source.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"ld: Unidentified external symbol\n   _get_wmShellWidgetclass\n   _get_applicationshellwidgetclass\n\n  I use -lXaw -lXmu -lXext -lX11 -lXt not in this order but in a proper order\n\nI am wondering if there has to be some changes in my link libraries or should\ni include some more libraries.\n\nANy help in this matter will be very useful and highly appreciated","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThis claim hasn't been retracted or contradicted yet, as many earlier\ngovernment claims have?  At least one clip showed a fire erupting\nafter a tank busted in a wall.  We have unsubstantiated claims by\nthe government about the FLIRs spotting \"simultaneous\" fires.\n\n\nThat's easy.  Six hours of CS gas, heavy smoke from a rapidly spreading\nfire, confusion, panic.  Only 10% got out.  The building was collapsing\nall around them and finding the way out was a matter of luck.\n\n\nThe Davidians may have committed suicide, or some few zealots among\nthem might have started the fires -- that is possible.  But, given\nthe government's earlier inability to tell a straight story, I find\nmy above scenario equally possible.  I wait for some independent\ninvestigation to look into the whole thing.\n\nIt would be one thing if the government spokespeople had been\nconsistent and forthright throughout.  Keeping the press far away\nand ghettoized in \"pools\" was not conducive to building up trust.\nSealing the warrants was non-optimal, as well.  This operation\nwas out of control from the git-go.\n\n\n\nSpeaking only for myself, I think Bush and Reagan should have been\nimpeached over Iran-Contra.\n\nIn 1979, I would probably have given the benefit of the doubt to\nthe government.  No more.  Like I said, I'll wait to see the\nresults of an independent investigation -- if there is one --\nbefore I choose whom to believe.\n\n\nBut you got one, anyway.\n\n\n\nI generally vote for the lesser of two evils.  This last time, it\nwas the least of three evils.\n\n\n\nIt was a bureaucratic execution.  Out of control bureaucracies driven\nby percieved self-interest and gross stupidity.\n\n\nClinton is just another statist.  My only problem with Clinton on this\nis that he is apparently willing to blindly back the ATF and FBI.\n\n-- \npaul hager\t\thagerp@moose.cs.indiana.edu","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Keywords: \n\n   All items were bought in August 1992.  They are undamaged and like\nnew.  If you are interested in the following, please send e-mail to\nIO20648 on the main frame or car@gandalf.\n\n   Queen size box spring and mattress           $200\n\n   Queen size pine headboard                      $35\n        \n   Sofa- slate blue-three pillows-6 foot seating area- $200\n  \n   4 drawer chest-                                $20\n   \n   3 drawer chest-                                $20\n\n   Small kitchen table and four chairs            $70\n\n\n                       Thanks","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nAfter a quick start, Pena has been stuck in a rut.  Torre gave Alicea\nthe start to try to get Pena out of whatever funk he is in.  It has\nworked in the past.\n\nBob","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nWhich was my point. By converting to another religion I do not loose\nmy cultural identity, I just loose my religious identification.\nI consider that defining the belonging to a nation that claims the \nright to have a State based on religious belief is a form of racism.\n\n\nTo be a part or not of the Jeish Nation is defined by my culture and not\nby my religion. Actually, if I am an atheist, which is in fact like \nconverting into a non-Jewish in terms of religion, I am still considered as\npart of the Jewish Nation.\nI can be proud of my Jewish culture while not giving any importance to the\nJewish religion. Or, even more, I can be proud of my Jewish culture while\nstill be convinced that the real god is another one.\nI do not know anyone who lost his memebership to the American nation \nbecause he changed of god.\n\nI still believe that we should never confusse the actions of States with\nthe individuals who happen to live there.\nIn the same way that I do not think it is right to blame all Israelis for the\nhuman rights violations of Israel, I do not think that we should assume\nthat all Arabs are guilty of the actions of the Arab States.\nSome people fled their homes because they were scared. Now they are in\nthere, still suffering for what they are not responsible.\nAnd, remember that we also were told the same at some point. We ended in\nthe diaspora. And, of course, I am not for doing to others what I did not\nwant done to me. \n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":": My girlfriend is in pain from kidney stones. She says that because she has no\n: medical insurance, she cannot get them removed.\n: \n: My question: Is there any way she can treat them herself, or at least mitigate\n: their effects? Any help is deeply appreciated. (Advice, referral to literature,\n: etc...)\n: \n: Thank you,\n: \n: Dave Carvell\n: pk115050@wvnvms.wvnet.edu\n\nFirst off, I would consider the severity of the pain. I had stones\nseveral years ago, and there's now way I could have made it without\nheavy duty doses of morphine and demerol and a two week stay in the\nhospital. I was told that there was nothing that I could take that would\ndissolve them. If the stones are passible, the best thing she could do\nis drink LOTS of water, and hope that they pass, but every time they\nmove a little, the pain will be excrutiating. I was told by my doctor\nat that time that the pain was comparable to that of childbirth. (Yes,\nby a male doctor, so I'm sure some of you women will disagree). I'd\nreally like to know the truth in this, so maybe some of you women who\nhave had a baby and a kidney stone could fill me in. \n--","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nSometimes yes, sometimes no. BDI cagers usually move back then.\nHyperagressive assholes just move closer. (Something about\ntestosterone-stimulated behavior, I think.) It's kinda like waving a red\nflag at a bull. All in all, if you can't move over and let the jerk by,\nit's better than nothing...\n\n                  tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nWhat frequency is your carrier?\n\nHave you considered using two tones, one for 1 and another for 0?\n\nHow high is your RS-232 data rate?\n\nCan you use more than one carrier freq?\n\nHave you considered hiring an RF data transmission consultant?","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n# when soaking in water). Lasers are slightly sharper, but the only\n# instance where I needed precise layouts was Printed Circuit Board\n# Transparencies for PhotoEtching. I found a Textronix color Phaser\n# Postscript (Thermal Wax Transfer) to work the best to make PCB\n# negatives directly onto a transparency.\n# \n\nDid the deskjet work at all when printing on transparencies ? If it\ndid, what sort of resolution could it manage ?\n\n-adrian\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nExcuse me? Are you one of those people who *enjoy* working w\/win? Come talk \nto a house-mate of mine and tell him how productive his life is when he \nencountered yet another sudden appearence of the DOS-prompt while cutting \nand pasting in win! Or an empty win screen without any tasks running (i.e.\n^ESC brings up an empty list, progman has done it again.)\n\nLeo","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
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{"text":"Does anyone know if there is such an animal.  I have a Mouse Systems \ntrackball and would like a driver for this device that would allow me to use \nthe mouse within a DOS window the same way Microsoft's mouse driver works.\n\nThanks,\nChris\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\nChris Shenefiel:\nWho does not represent his company in any way, shape or form on this forum.\nNor do his opinions or comments represent the opinions of his company.\nNor do his opinions or comments even merit consideration of any kind.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Here's my system desc:\n   4 megs on the main board, 1 on the accelerator board\n   mac -plus, with the most recent roms (D)\n   trying to run system 6, but would like to run 7\n   the hard drive is a jasmine, works fine if i start up with the \n\taccelerator disabled\n   i also seem to get the problem of when i try to start up from floppy\n\twith the hard-drive disconnected, all i get is the disk loading,\n\tbut the screen is black, except for a happy mac in the middle,\n\tand it never gets anywhere\n-Jason\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI didn't say that pitcher's fear of throwing strikes to guys like\nMcGwire, Bonds, and Frank Thomas was rational.  \nI just said that it exists.\n\n\nI don't know Alex Cole's batting style at all.   Some questions:\nHow tall is he?\nDoes he go into a crouch like Rickey Hederson\/Pete Rose?\nDoes he foul off a lot of pitches like Brett Butler?\nDoes he take 1 or 2 strikes in each at bat?\n\nIt could be the Cole has a good batting \"eye\".\nLook above, I said that *many* high OBP guys draw their walks because\npitchers are afraid to throw a strike to them, not \"all\" high OBP guys.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nLimited Tort Option will lower your rates. If you choose it, you can't\nsue others for pain & suffering, but you still can sue for economic loss.\nSo you can sue for your wrecked car and for medical bills, but you can't\nsue for $1000000 for pain and suffering.\n\nAt least, that's how I understand it.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nDoesn't sound like they attended, though, does it?  In fact, if we riders\nneed friends, it sounds a lot like we might have a whole townfull from \nLynn's description, especially if the same crowd gets invited back\nto party some more year after year.\n\n\nYou seem to be one of very few bent out of shape over these \"lesser\nindiscretions\".  If the towns-people aren't ruffled by the\n\"indiscretions\" and the partyers aren't either, maybe the \"indiscretions\"\ndon't amount to anything more threatening or damaging than harmless \ngood-natured rowdiness among consenting adults.  The only thing that \nreally bothered me about the description was the knee-deep empty beer cans \nin the street, but maybe the town had a plan to deal with that since they \nhelped set up the party in the first place.  If I lived there and the\nbikers' previous visits had established a record of mutual cooperation\nand good intentions, I'd certainly rather they stick around and party\nthan go riding off into the night impaired and maybe get hurt or killed.\n\n\nIf it doesn't hurt anyone, and all the parties to the party benefit\nand consider the entire activity to be benign and harmless, then who \nneeds to \"permit\" or \"justify\" it?  You?  Why do *you* need to do that?\n\n\nIronically, these particular townsfolk probably are in the minority that\ndon't happen to fit the stereotype you describe.  They've developed a\nfriendly long-term mutually-beneficial relationship with a group of \nmotorcyclists, and aren't as burdened with MC-ignorance as is the general\npopulation because of it.\n\n\nIf such a need exists, it surely must come from within.\n\n\nWell, you got the \"self-righteous wusses\" part right, anyway.\n\nChuck Rogers\ncar377@torreys.att.com","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I've sent Gordon R. my posts on protein, vitamin C and vitamin A prior to \nposting on internet as a professional courtesy.  Somehow I've managed to \ndelete my vitamin A post from my text file.  Gordon R. had promised to send \nit back to me but he's pretty mad at me right now so I'll just retype it.\nSince digging through all my references is very time consuming(took me all \nday for that PMS post), I'm not going to cite any references(Gordon R. has \nthem).  I'm going to include some of the material from Weinsier and \nMorgan's new Nutrition textbook(which was not in my original material) to \npoint out that what I'm going to say has some support in the medical \ncommunity.\n\nDiet has been know to affect the immune system of man for a very, very long \ntime.  Protein has always had the biggest role in infection and I've \nalready covered the role of protein in protecting you against infection.\nNow I'm going to hit what I consider to be the most important nutrient in \nthe U.S. as far as infection is concerned(vitamin A).\n\nWhen vitamin A was originally discovered, it was commonly referred to as \nthe anti-infection vitamin.  Many people(Linus Pauling being one) have \ndecided to take this title away from vitamin A and give it to vitamin C\n(which I've already covered).  Big mistake(in my opinion).  Vitamin A is \nalso getting a reputation as an anti-cancer vitamin(with good reason).\nThe NCI currently has numerous clinical trials in progress to see if \nvitamin A can not only prevent cancer but cure it as well.  It's role in \nboth cancer and infection is almost identical(but not quite).\n\nVitamin A comes in two completely different forms(retinol and \nbeta-carotene).  Retinol is the animal form and it's toxic, beta-carotene \nis the plant form and it's completely nontoxic.  Both retinol and beta-\ncarotene display good absorption in the human gut if bile is present\n(60-80%).  The liver stores all of your retinol and doles it out for other \ntissues to use by synthesizing retinol binding protein(RBP).  A normal human \nadult liver should have 500,000IU to 1,000,000IU of retinol stored.  We \nare born with 10,000IU in our liver.  U.S. autopsy has shown that about \n30% of Americans die with the same(or less) amount of vitamin A as they \nwere born with.  If you don't believe that nutritional reserves(like that \nof retinol in the liver) are important, then this low vitamin A reserve is \nnot going to affect you.  But if you believe(like I do) that the nutrient \nreserves are important, then there is a problem with vitamin A in the U.S.\n\nThe U.S. RDA for vitamin A in an adult male is 1,000 RE or 5,000IU of \nvitamin A.  For adult feamles its 800 RE or 4,000IU of vitamin A.  Diet \nsurveys show that most Americans are getting this amount of vitamin A\n(either retinol or Beta-carotene) from their diet.  But the NRC(National \nResearch Council) was going to release a new RDA table in 1985 that had the \nRDA for both vitamin A and vitamin C raised(C to 90mg per day and A to \n7,500IU per day for adult males).  That report and it's recommendations was \nkilled.  Why? Concern over the increasing supplementation was the main \nreason.  RDAs are set to prevent clinical disease, not to keep nutrient \nreserves full.  Many scientist in the U.S. feel that the time has come to \nmove away from the prevention of clinical pathology concept and move \ntowards the promotion of optimum health concept, especially since we have \nsome very good data now that show that nutrient reserves are extremely \nimportant during periods of stress.  The nutritonal concervatives won that \nbattle and a new group of scientist were collected to come out with the \n1989 RDA list which lowered the RDA for several nutrients and moved the \ndietary guidelines back to where they were when we first started in the \n1940's(get enough to prevent clinical pathology, but not enough to fill \nthe reserves).\n\nWe know from autopsy that only about 10% of Americans have a liver with a \nnormal vitamin A reserve(500,000IU to 1,000,000IU).  I preach nutrient \nreserves to my students and tell them to measure them in their patients.\nBut for vitamin A, only a liver biopsy(or autopsy data) will tell you how \nmuch somebody has stored.  We can tell very easily if someone has \noverfilled his or her liver with vitamin A by measuring the serium retinol \nlevel(levels above 450ug\/dl are highly suggestive that you have filled your \nliver with vitamin A and it's time to stop taking retinol).  The normal \nrange of serum retinol will be 20-100ug\/dl.  Hypervitaminosis A is \ndiagnosed with a serum retinol level of 2,000ug\/dl or higher(Interpretation \nof Diagnostic Test, Wallach, M.D., a Little Brown Series book).  This level \nof vitamin A in blood means that medical attention is necessary due to \nvitamin A toxicity.  Weinsier and Morgan take a much more conservative \napproach to vitamin A toxicity than does Wallach, as you will see later in \nthis post.  Between 450ug\/dl and 2,000ug\/dl you should have plenty \nof warning that it's time to eliminate the retinol from your diet(headache, \nredness of the skin, hair loss, joint pain).\n\nI tell all my students that will use vitamin A in their practice that they \nhad better monitor the serum retinol level and stop when there are clear \nsigns that the liver is full.  You will never really know if the patient \nneeds the vitamin A(because you can not measure the pool in liver) but you \nwill always know when it's time to stop(just like in those vitamin A for \nPMS studies).\n\nBeta-carotene can be taken to fill up your liver with retinol and you will \nnever have to worry about toxicity because the conversion of beta-carotene to \nretinol that occurs in both your gut and your liver will slow down(stops in the \nliver and slows down in the gut) when your liver is full of retinol.  But \ntaking Beta-carotene as the source of retinol takes a very long time to \nfill the liver up(I've seen estimates of 20-30 years) if you are in the 30% \nthat only has as much as you were born with in your liver(10,000IU).  One \nother problem with beta-carotene, if you have a zinc deficit, you will not \nconvert as much beta-carotene to retinol in the gut or the liver because the \nenxzyme that does this conversion requires zinc.  In addition, the release of \nretinol from the liver is a zinc dependent process so a zinc deficit will \ncause a vitamin A deficit even if your liver has plenty of vitamin A.\n\nNow what does vitamin A do in cancer and infection protection?  The body \nuses vitamin A(retinol) for many different things.  Vision(the first to be \nnailed down and where you see overt clinical pathology) uses the aldehyde\n(retinal) and alcohol(retinol) form of vitamin A.  Reproduction uses the \nretinol form  and some retinal.  Infection and cancer protection uses \nretinoic acid.  How do you convert retinol(which your white blood cells \nand the mucosal cells get from blood) to retinoic acid?  You use enzymes, \none of which requires vitamin C(this is why Pauling has tried to pull the \ntitle of anti-infection vitamin away from vitamin A).  Vitamin C does play \na role in infection(interferon production for example) but it's biggest role \nis the conversion of retinol to retinoic acid.  If you increase your intake \nof vitamin C, you will increase your formation of retinoic acid.  But \nretinoic acid can not be converted back to retinol(as retinal can) and once \nit's formed, it's used and then lost to the body.  This is why the 1985 NRC \ngroup wanted to increase both vitamin C and vitamin A RDA's.\n\nMost people taking large amounts of vitamin C really think that they are \nhelping themselves.  If they don't have much vitamin A in their liver and \nthey are not also increasing their intake of vitamin A, they actually do \nthemselves more harm than good.\n\nRetinoic acid functions in white blood cells to promote antibody formation.\nIn the mucus membrane, it is the main factor in promoting good mucus \nproduction and a good epithelial cell barrier to prevent infectious agents from \nentering the blood system.  The mucus membrane is referred to as the \"first \nline\" defense against infection.  For cancer, retinoic acid has been shown \nto act as a cell brake(it counteracts the effect of cell promoters which \nstimulate cells to divide).  Cancer has two distinct steps, DNA alteration \nand cell promotion.  For cells that normally divide all the time, promoters \nare not that important.  But for lung and breast tissue which does not \nnormally divide, promoters are real important in the malignant process.\nThis is the major reason why the NCI has so many different clinical trials \nin progress using retinol and\/or beta-carotene.\n\nChronic infection(irritation) of the mucus membranes is a signal that \nvitamin A may not be adequate.  I tell my students that any patient who \nwalks into their office with a complaint of chronic infection has to be \nworked up for vitamin A(along with the other factors that medicine already \nhas on it's list of causes for chronic infection).  I drive this home in my \ncourse at the Osteopathic College in Tulsa, when I teach at the allopathic \nmedical school in Tulsa(OU's branch campus) and when I give CME lectures.\n\nDark adaptation is the best clinical test for vitamin A status since night \nvision is impacted when liver reverves drop to 50,000IU of retinol.  The \nserum level of retinol can also be used, but it does not drop until liver \nreserves drop below 10,000 to 20,000IU.  Asking a patient if they have \ntrouble seeing at night is a good initial screen(if cataracts are ruled \nout).  In one study done on U.S. Spanish-Americans where serum retinol levels \nwere measured, 25% of the sample population had a serum retinol level below \n20ug\/dl.\n\nAs more studies are done on serum retinol levels in population groups of \nthe U.S. that have had a history of high infection rates, we will probably \nsee a much stonger correlation between infection incidence rates and low \nserum retinol levels.\n\nWhat do Weinsier and Morgan have to say about vitamin A?  Here are excerpts\nfrom their book:\n\nVitamin A functions in vision in the forrm of retinol, it is necessay for \ngrowth and differentation of epithelial tissue, and is required for \nreproduction, embryonic development, and bone growth.  Protein-calorie \nmalnutrition and zinc deficiency may impair the absorption, transport, and \nmetabolism of vitamin A.  Retinaldehyde is converted to retinoic acid, \nwhich has biological activity in growth and in cell diferentiation but not \nin reproduction or vision.  The most common procedure to evaluate vitamin A \nstatus is to measure the retinol level in plasma or serum.  The normal \nrange for vitamin A content for a child is 20 to 90ug\/dl.  Lower values are \nindicators of deficiency or depleted body stores.  Serum levels greater \nthan 100ug\/dl are indicative of toxic levels of vitamin A.  Dark adaptation \ntests and electroretinogram measurements are also useful but difficult to \nperform on young children.  Rapidly proliferating tissues are sensitive to \nvitamin A deficiency and may revert to an undifferentiated state.  The \nbronchorespiratory tract, skin, genitourinary system, gastrointestinal \ntract and sweat glands are adversely affected.  A daily intake of more than \n7.5mg(about 37,000IU) of retinol is not advised and chronic use of amounts \nover 20mg(100,000IU) can result in a dry and itching skin, desquamation, \nerythematous dermatitis, hair loss, joint pain, chapped lips, hyperostois\n(bony depositis), headaches, anorexia, edema and fatigue.  \n\nThey recommend 30mg of retinol via IM injection in children for vitamin A \ndeficiency but do not discuss treatment for adults.  Their toxic serum retinol \nlevel is very conservative.  I recommend that my students try 25,000IU in \nadults that are having problems with chronic infection.  They have to rule \nout a zinc deficit first by getting an RBC zinc run(or if their clinical \nlab can't run it, I tell them to do what Weinsier and Morgan suggest, give \nthem the zinc along with the vitamin A.  At 25,000IU per day, toxicity \nshould not be a problem and you will not have to worry about pulling the \npatient into the office on a regular basis to run a serum retinol.\n\nBoth Elaine and Jon found doctors who used a much higher dose of vitamin A.\nRecall that the PMS papers were using 100,000IU to 200,000IU of vitamin A.\nI don't suggest that my students use these high doses.  If you wanted to \nfill the liver up fast(as part of a clinical trial) and were monitoring the \nserum retinol level, then you would be okay.  But my knowledge of the \nvitamin A literature suggests to me that 25,000IU for patients with a \ndemonstrated vitamin A deficit(dark adapatation test or serum retinol) will \nprovide a good and steady improvement(as long as zinc and vitamin C status \nare good) without having to worry about toxicity.  If they want to get more \nagressive, fine if they follow my advise to check the serum retinol.  But \nvitamin A(retinol) should never be given in high dose to women who could \nbecome pregnant since vitamin A shows teratogenicity towards the human \nfetus.  The dose needed to show this effect on the developing fetus is \n18,000IU of retinol per day.  Beta-carotene will never have this effect on \nthe human fetus.\n\nCould just taking Beta-carotene instead of retinol supplements help?  Yes \nbut the effect will take a long time to develop.  My advise is to use \nretinol to fill the liver up and then switch to beta-carotene to keep it \nfull.  Vitamin A is probably one nutrient that is better off left to \nprescription by doctors.  But when we have the M.D.'s in this newsgroup \njumping all over me and other doctors that propose the use of vitamin A \nsupplements for treating patients with chronic sinus and GI distress, I \nthink that the most prudent option is to keep vitamin A in the OTC market \nbut require manufactors to provide package inserts to educate the general \npublic about the dangers of vitamin A supplementation.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"It is interesting to note in the past few days' correspondance that some\nbelieve that poor old New Mexico is not capable of hosting a commercial\nspace launch business.  For many reasons, it can, and we here on the front\nlines see no reason why it should not.  The 'spaceport political publicity'\nreferred to the other day had its intended effect - the state of New Mexico\ndid establish the start of the necessary government infrastructure to back a\ncommercial space port.  The commanding general at WSMR is in full support of\ndual-use for the facilities.  The WSMR location also has some strategic\nadvantages in the form of necessary infrastructure and controlled air space\nto support the project.  Just because the folks involved have not done the\ntraditional aerospace-equivalent of vapor-ware by inviting folks out to kick\nnon-existent tires but have been merely doing their job to prepare for\nlaunch, don't think that nothing has happened.  From my interactions with\nthe MACDAC folks, I get the impression that they want to set a firm,\nbelievable launch date based on vehicle readiness and not just some fiction\nto plug a space on a calendar.  I believe that all will happen this summer\nand don't worry, the locals here are planning to let everyone know when it\ndoes occur.\nStephen Horan\nshoran@nmsu.edu\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"You really expect a cop to answer these honestly?\n\n(First you gotta expect a cop to be honest...that's another\nstory...)\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"In trying to use the Equation editor in Word for Windows 2.0 I get\na couple of error messages along the lines of:\n\n\nSimilar for the font Fences.\n\nI know I have these fonts on my system but are unable to use them.\nI have tried both of these solutions to no avail.\n\nIf anyone has had similar problems and has found a way to fix this, could \nthey let me know. It is urgently required !!\n\nThanks ,\n\n      ****     Jason Cleeve       (j.cleeve@ieee.org)       Q         **** \n    ***   `    Comp. Sci. (Hons) & Elect. Eng.             \/T\\       '   ***\n  ****         La Trobe University. Australia              \/ \\            ****\n*********      Email: cleeve@lucifer.latrobe.edu.au      ------\\      **********","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"# ## Sigh.  You're absolutely right.  We have no political power whatsoever. \n# \n# #If only that were true.  In California, homosexuals have enough power\n# #to impose their morals on others.\n# \n# The only \"moral\" we're imposing is one which you supposedly embrace already:\n# every human being's right to be treated as such.\n\nI don't expect to be hired based on my sexual orientation.  If someone\ndecides he wants a gay-only staff of employees, that's his business.\nI won't force him to hire heterosexuals; please don't force me to\nhire homosexuals.\n\n# ## Therefore, we should be oppressed and ignored and denigrated, right?  I\n# \n# #You aren't oppressed in California.\n# \n# But it's OK to oppress us, that's what you're saying!\n\nNo.  I'm saying it's none of the government's business what two\nconsenting adults do in private.  You don't believe that, unfortunately.\n\n# ## certainly hope you don't have an SO, sir, because if she heard how\n# ## disparaging you are towards political minorities, and if she had any shred\n# ## of self-respect, she'd be out the door.\n# \n# #Why do you keep insulting women and blacks by comparing them to\n# #homosexuals?\n# \n# This sort of crap makes me so fucking sick that I can't even bring myself to\n# touch it.  You're a fuckwit with no perspective, no valid life experience,\n# and no true knowledge of the human condition.  I see no point in trying to\n# convince you politely that we're not all like the ones you've met, because\n# you're showing no willingness at all to be open-minded enough to accept that\n# your stupid generalizations have exceptions.  You are an intellectual waste,\n# and the reason you believe the worst of homosexuals is that you bring out\n# the worst in them.\n# \n# ----bi    Andrew D. Simchik\t\t\t\t\tSCHNOPIA!\n\nAnd you are yet another reminder of the emotional instability of\nhomosexuals.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":" A suggestion:  Slave (hook in series) a small pilot light off the fan\ncircuit.  Then, if the light goes out, you know your fan is not working.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I have placed a new release of my aXe editor in aXe-5.0.tar.Z on\nexport.lcs.mit.edu (18.24.0.12) and arjuna.ncl.ac.uk (128.240.150.1).\n\nThe significant change this time, and the justification for the hike\nin the major version number, is:\n\n  o undo has been implemented.\n\n    By default only the last change can be undone, but a resource is\n    provided to allow the user to specify how many, including unlimited,\n    levels of undo information should be kept. Also, undo of undo is\n    supported.\n\nThere is no truth in the rumour that the next version will be EmaXe 19 :-)\n\n                          -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\n\nFor those who have not encountered aXe before here is a summary of\nwhat it is all about:\n\naXe is a simple to use text editor for X that represents a significant\nimprovement over xedit. Also built around the Athena Text Widget it\nfeatures, amongst other things,\n\n   o multiple windows\n   o multiple buffers\n   o default menu interface\n   o optional button interface, with choice and layout of buttons \n     under user control\n   o minibuffer for expert use and access to external filters\n   o provision for defining a keyboard macro\n   o geometry specification and resizing in terms of characters\n   o file selection via a browser\n   o knowledge of line numbers\n   o parenthesis matching\n   o regular expression searching\n   o restricted or unlimited undo\n   o ability to change font\n   o easy entry of control codes\n   o xterm-like keymap feature\n   o easy runtime setting of selected preferences (resources)\n   o both brief and comprehensive on-line help\n   o server mode with cooperating client programs\n   o optional extension language using Tcl\n   o optional Xaw3d widget set compatability\n   o collection of reusable widgets that embody the functionality of aXe\n\nI have personally built and run core aXe, i.e. without the Tcl and\nXaw3d options, on the following systems:\n\n   Sun SPARC        SunOS 4.1.x     MIT X11R5\n   Sun SPARC        SunOS 5.1       MIT X11R5\n   Encore Multimax  UMAX 4.3        MIT X11R5\n   DEC 5000\/120     ULTRIX 4.2      MIT X11R5\n   HP 9000\/710      HP-UX 8.07      MIT X11R5\n   MAC IIci         AU\/X 3.0        MIT X11R5\n   \nbut not all have been subject to the same level of testing. I have\nonly tested the Tcl and Xaw3d options on the first.\n\nA number of '#ifdef SYSV'-isms that have been fed back to me have been\nincorporated into the code and a possible scandir replacement is\nprovided for those systems that do not have one.\n\nAlthough aXe will probably build under R4 run-time problems have been\nencountered in the past. I have not bothered to try this version under\nR4, and have not put any effort into solving previously known\nproblems.  Therefore, if you are at R4 you very much take pot luck. If\nit doesn't work the only alternative is to try the last release,\n2.1.1, of version 2 which should still be around. It doesn't have as\nmany features and uses the Widget Creation Library (Wcl). Not only\nthat, it requires an old version of Wcl, 1.06 or 1.05. Version 3 of\naXe was nearing completion when version 2 of Wcl came out so aXe 2\nnever got converted to make use of it.\n\naXe is available by anonymous ftp from export.lcs.mit.edu (18.24.0.12)\nand arjuna.ncl.ac.uk (128.240.150.1) initially, and probably in due\ncourse from several other ftp sites.  Check your nearest using\nxarchie.\n\nIf you can't ftp, try sending email to ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com with the\nword \"help\" alone in your message body.  You will receive instructions\non how to ftp via email.\n\nJim","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I'm a nursing student, and I would like to respond to #66966 on haldol\nand the elderly.\nMessage-ID: <25APR199316225142@fsphy1.physics.fsu.edu>\nOrganization: Florida State University - School of Higher Thought\nNews-Software: VAX\/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  \n\nFirst, I'm sorry to hear that you have had to see your grandmother go\nthrough this.  I know it has to have been tough.\n\nThere are many things that can cause long term confusion in elderly\nadults.  The change in environment can cause problems.  Anesthetic agents\ncan cause confusion because the body cannot clear the medicines out of\nthe body as easily.  In addition, medications and interactions between\nmedications can cause confusion.\n\nAs far as whether or not haldol can have long lasting effects even after\nthe drug has been discontinued, I do not know.  I have not _seen_ anything\nto that effect.  However, I also had not been looking for that information.\nI can see what I can find...\n\nI can tell you that haldol is an antipsychotic drug, and, according to\nthe Nursing93 Drug handbook, it is \"Especially useful for agitation\nassociated with senile dementia\"  (p. 400).  It also should not be \ndiscontinued abruptly.  It did not say anything about long lasting\neffects.\n\nBecause so many things can cause confusion, it is hard for me to know\nwhat else was going on at the time; if I had more history, i might be able\nto answer you better.  If you want to send me e-mail with more information,\nI would be happy to try to  help you piece together what might have\nhappened.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
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{"text":"\nA lot of the time, when you're dealing with someone who has no financial  \ninterest in selling you the machine, you get a lot of opinion (as opposed  \nto factual information, etc.).  What it sounds like to me is that this guy  \nhas had an experience with one flaky Centris 610 and formed an  \nall-encompassing opinion on the rest of the 610's.  I've seen lots of  \npeople who frustrated me to no end because they refused to believe any  \nother Mac Xyz would be any good, since their experience (with >one<  \nmachine) with a Mac Xyz had been bad.  Their loss, eh?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\tInteresting.  All I can say is that I haven't seen any wear in the\n1000 miles I've used the stuff on the Ninja, and the bike stays soooo clean.\n\n\tI'll check back again in a few thousand more miles.\n\n\tWhile we're on the subject, whereinthehell can I find a 532x110\nendless chain, other than the dealer (no, rivet-type master links are not\nacceptable)?\n\nLater,","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nIf you are just getting sick of the real estate used by the HCT373, you could\nalways use the approach I have seen one designer take - he stuck the chip in\nthe middle of the EPROM socket, under the EPROM.  Naturally, you have to use\nan IC socket with the right dimensions, but layout is really easy.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":" \n\nWe had a senior NSA scientist in Cambridge at one of our workshops recently\n(in fact he was here when the Clipper announcement was made, but we didn't\nlearn of it till after he'd gone). He said on this point that he was forbidden\nby law to monitor conversations between US nationals (and he is a chap who is \nvery precise about his choice of words). So I don't expect he'd have any qualms\nabout monitoring a domestic US conversation if one of the parties was an alien.\n\nHowever it got me thinking of the Navajo code talkers. Just imagine:\n\n+ `Hello, is that the Iraqi mission in New York? This is the Iraqi foreign\n+ ministry in Baghdad, I am Farouq Hussein, US citizen, social security number\n+ so-and-so'\n\n+ `Yes, indeed, this is the New York mission, Mustafa Jadid speaking, also a\n+ US citizen, my social security number is such-and-such, here is our report\n+ on activities against the Satan Clinton'","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nthey weren't even carrying extra suits.\n\nSo how much mass is saved by not burning the OMS?  That's the critical question.\nMy data shows that the OMS engines hold 10,900 kg of propellant.  Of that, a \nsubstantial fraction is going to be used for the first OMS burn, the reentry\nburn and the reserve.  So Pat, tell us how much fuel the altitude change is\ngoing to take, and how much the EDO pallet, BUS-1 and extra parts are going\nmass.  If you can make the numbers work out, _then_ I'll be interested.  After\nyou show us that it can be done, then tell us how much the EDO pallet, BUS-1\nand extra equipment is going to cost.  \n\n\n\n\nFirst, while astronauts certainly have done EVAs with minimal planning, that was\nbecause they _had_ to.  They don't like to do that as a general rule.\n\nSecond, remember why they had to improvise during Intelsat 6?  They were trying\nto attach a motor to a piece of hardware that wasn't designed to do that.  \nTrying to shortcut the training is only going to make a repeat more likely.\n\nThird, they don't have eight months.  They have however much time is left \nafter someone comes up with a plan, shows it can work and gets it approved.\nYou may think I have a pessimistic attitude.  I think it's realistic.  I'm not\nsaying that the engineering task is impossible (few engineering tasks are).  \nWhat I'm saying is that this is neither cost effective nor feasible under NASA\nmanagement.\n\n\n\n\"All they have to do is soup it up?\"  Just what does that mean?  \n\n\n\n\nThe second servicing mission is a contingency.  You have neither shown that it\nwould be necessary without your plan nor that it would be unnecessary with your\nplan.  \n\n\nNo, Pat, I haven't forgotten.\n\n\nNo Pat.  That's $500 million minus the cost of the new hardware, minus the cost\nof the extra struff you want to bring along, minus development and mangement \ncosts, minus extra operating costs.  TANSTAAFL.\n\n\n\nI'm sure that if you reread this you'll see that your argument is falacious.\n\n\nPat, not only is this messy and less reliable than a device that's _made_ to \nperform this task, it also ignores the point.  There is a desire to have \nastronauts available so that if the door fails to open, something can be done\nabout it.  Unless you can provide a very reliable way of reopening the door,\nyou haven't solved the problem.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nWhat is \"aluminium siding\"?  I keep seeing references to it.  Something to do\nwith railway lines, perhaps?\n\nE-mail reply please, I'll never find it otherwise.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
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{"text":"Organization: Compact Solutions, Canberra ACT Australia\n\n > This may be a very naive question but is there any\n > basis for the\n > claim that a CPU will get hotter when a\n > computationally intensive\n > job is running? My friend claims that there will be\n > little difference\n > in the temperature of an idle CPU and a CPU running a\n > computationally\n > intensive job.\n\nFrom what I've seen in coursework, most CPUs never actually\n\"idle\".  They will continue to service interrupts, etc.,\netc.  The clock will always be running at n Mhz no matter\nwhat it's doing.\n\nI suppose depending on the instruction, the CPU may use\ncircuitry which has more transistors than other\ninstructions, but if you consider the additional heat\ngenerated by only a handful of additional, tiny resistors\nand then spread that heat dissipation over the CPU's\npackaging, the change in temperature to the immediate\nenvironment (ie. the surface of the package) will be\nnegligible.\n\nCheers, Ben\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nBen J. Elliston\nBachelor of Engineering (Computer Engineering)                     \\\\\\\/\/\nUniversity of Canberra                                             (@ @)\n                                                             ___ooO_( )_Ooo__\nEmail:      compsol@fir.canberra.edu.au                              V\nAlso:       ellib@cbr.cpsg.com.au\nUUCP:       ..!uunet!munnari!sserve.adfa.oz.au!compsol!root\nFidoNet:    3:620\/262\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nMy suggestion look at your current insurance card, there will be a name \naccross the top telling you which insurance company you are insured by.\nCall information in Houston and get the number of a branch office in the \nHouston area, call the insurance company.\n\nYour rates will vary depending on the amount of coverage you want,\ndo you want to carry comp and collision (probably not on an 82),\nwhat your driving record is.  You mentioned none of these things in your\nposting so how can anyone give you accurate information.\n\nLike I said, pick up the phone and make a few calls, it won't kill you.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n   Newsgroups: comp.windows.x\n   Path: linus.mitre.org!linus!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!nott!bnrgate!bnr.co.uk!uknet!warwick!qmw-dcs!qmw!demon!xact.demon.co.uk!ptm\n   From: ptm@xact.demon.co.uk (Paul Thomas Mahoney)\n   Organization: X-Act Solutions Limited\n   X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3\n   Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 15:28:07 GMT\n   Lines: 8\n\n   I am looking of information regarding UIMX. I believe this is an application\n   front end generator tool for Motif (among others). Whould someone given me a\n   contact? I need to get hold of the programmers' guide, or something like it.\n   -- \n   Paul Mahoney, X-Act Solutions Limited\n   smail: 20 Shipley Lane, Cooden, Bexhill-on-Sea, East Sussex, TN39 3SR\n   email: ptm@xact.demon.co.uk ... pmahoney@cix.compulink.co.uk\n   phone: +44 424 846368\n\n\n\n\n\nI went to the XWorld convention in NY and talked to the people\nfrom Bluestone who make UIMX.  They sent me a HUGE 3 ring binder\nof info and a demo tape.  Let me know what you need.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nI'm glad to see this idea come up because I've had something similar in mind.\nWhat if you had an authorization key that computed from the name and address \ndata.  When the user registers, you don't even need to send executable code, \njust compute his\/her key and send him\/her instructions to enter in the \nappropriate place the following:\n\nName=Joe Doe\nAddress=123 Main Street\nCity=Anytown, CA\nkey=ldslfoialsdkcdsngsikhsfd","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I have enrolled in \"The History of Christianity\" at a college here in\nSt. Louis. The teacher of the class is what I consider to be\nclosed-minded and bigotted on the subject of what the definition of\nChristianity is.  His definition is tied directly to that of the\nTrinity and the Catholic church's definition of it and belief in\nJesus Christ is not sufficient to call one's self a Christian.\n\nWhile his saying it doesn't make it so,  I nevertheless feel insulted\n(or am I just neurotic? :^) ). I would like to be able to respond to\nhim with some sense of literacy while maintaining an amiable\nstudent-teacher relationship.\n\nSo, is there common definition of what Christianity is?  As the\nprevious discussion of the Trinity did not lend itself to an exchange\nof flames, I am hopeful that this will also not produce major\nflames.\n\nRegards,\n--\nLarry Autry\nSilicon Graphics, St. Louis\nautry@sgi.com \n\n\n\n[Often we get into discussions about who is Christian.  Unfortunately\nthere are a number of possible definitions.  Starting from the \nbroadest, commonly used definitions are:\n\n  a historical definition\n  people who accept Christ as Lord and savior\n  a broad doctrinal definition\n  narrow doctrinal definitions\n\n1) By a historical definition I mean the sort of definition a secular\nhistorian would likely use.  This would include any group that\ndeveloped out of the Christian church, and continues within the same\nbroad culture.  E.g. some Unitarians would fail just about any\ndoctrinal test you could come up with.  Yet it's clear that that group\ndeveloped from Christianity, and people from very different\nbackgrounds (e.g. Hindus) would likely see them as part of\nChristianity.  This is not a definition most Christians like, but it's\nrelevant in some political and ethnic contexts.\n\n2) Accepting Christ as Lord and savior is a test used by many\nChristian groups for membership, e.g. the Southern Baptists and\nPresbyterian Church (USA).  I would qualify it by saying that what\nmost people have in mind is an exclusive commitment to Christ, so that\nsomeone who accepted Christ as one of many gods would not fit.  It's\nan attempt to formulate a criterion that is religious but is not based\non technical doctrine.  By this definition, groups such as Arians\nwould be viewed as heretical Christians, but still Christians.  In the\nmodern context this would include Mormons, JW's, and \"oneness\nPentecostals\".  They would be viewed as heretical Christians, but\nstill Christian.  In practice I believe just about everyone who falls\ninto this category would accept the Apostle's Creed.\n\n3) The next level is an attempt to give a broad doctrinal definition,\nwhich includes all of the major strands of Christianity, but excludes\ngroups that are felt to be outside \"historic Christianity.\"  This is\nof course a slippery enterprise, since Catholics could argue that\nProtestants are outside historic Christianity, etc.  But I think the\nmost commonly accepted definition would be based on something like the\nNicene Creed and the Formula of Chalcedon.  The attempt is to\ncharacterize doctrines that all major strands of Christianity agree\nare key.  Obviously this is to some extent a matter of judgement.  A\nMormon will regard the LDS church as a major strand, and thus will not\nwant to include anything that contradicts their beliefs.  But I think\nthis definition would have fairly broad acceptance.\n\n4) Finally, some people use definitions that I would say are limited\nto a specific Christian tradition.  E.g. some evangelicals only\nconsider someone Christian if he has had an evangelical-style\nconversion experience, and some I've even heard of groups that limit\nit to their specific church.\n\nI think you can find contexts where each of these definitions is used.\nA lot is going to depend upon the purpose you're using it for.  If\nyou're using it descriptively, e.g. in history or anthropology, you'll\nprobably use definition 1 or 2.  If you're using it normatively, i.e.\nto say what you believe the Christian message is, you'll probably use\na definition like 3 or even 4.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nThe probability is that the Oilers are not going anywhere.\n\nPocklington has chosen this moment to make his \"last\" stand is\nbecause he is at the moment of maximum advantage...the provincial\ngovernment is months away from a provincial election...it is\nthe moment when he has maximum power to convince Northlands\nto give him a better arena deal or a better purchase price...\nand it is before the NHL's new collective agreement with\nthe players which might involve some enhanced revenue-sharing.\n\nPocklington is many things...stupid is not one of them.\n\nHe can dictate terms...because other cities will pay his\nprice if Edmonton doesn't.\n\nEdmonton has already fucked up its international airport, and\nsurrendered supremacy to Calgary, and over the next few years\nEdmonton is going to take a hard hit from government cutbacks.\nIt will screw itself beyond recogniton if it manages to find\na way to lose its hockey team too...because Northlands wants\nto continue to use the Oilers to subsidize horse racing.\n\nHowever, in this case, about the long-term financial\nviability of the Oilers, the fact is that Pocklington is basically \nright, regardless of who owns the team, and it is right to provoke\nthe crisis now, before the team accumulates millions of dollars\nin losses, or becomes habitually uncompetitive because of lack\nof money.\n\nSather has done his job...the Oilers are poised to be competitive\nagain very soon (Al Strachan, one of the most knowledgeble hockey\nwriters in Canada in a post-mortem of the Oilers season in\nthe Globe and Mail recently agrees with me.)","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nThe OED gives the etymology of \"sibyl\" as coming from the ancient Greek \n\n\tsigma iota beta upsilon lambda lambda alpha \n\t( S i b ih l l a )\n\nwhich is claimed to come from the Doric \n\n\tsigma iota omicron beta upsilon lambda lambda alpha \n\t( s i o b ih l l a )\n\nwhich (if I read it properly) in turn came from the Attican (Athenian)\n\n\ttheta epsilon omicron beta omicron upsilon lambda eta \n\t( th eh o b o ih l ae )\n\nI don't know much about Attis, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that\nthis God was tied to the Athenian capital\n\n\tAlpha tau tau iota kappa upsilon sigma\n\t(a t t i k u s)","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nKidding, right? \n\nCorvette, several MBZ's and BMW's, Mustang GT, etc., etc. There's a lot of\nthem. You from a European site?\n\n\t-Kenny\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nProbably not! The jesus freak's post is probably JSN104@PSUVM. Penn State\nis just loaded to the hilt with bible bangers. I use to go there *vomit* and\nit was the reason I left. They even had a group try to stop playing \nrock music in the dining halls one year cuz they deemed it satanic. Kampus\nKrusade for Khrist people run the damn place for the most part....except\nthe Liberal Arts departments...they are the safe havens.\n-wdb","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"210493\nItaly-Sweden 2-6 (0-1,1-2,1-3)\n                       W D L             \n\tCanada      2  2 0 0  6-1  4\n\tSweden      3  2 0 1  8-6  4\n\tRussia      2  1 1 0  6-4  3\n \tItaly\t    3  1 1 1  5-8  3","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\tWhile dedicating the Holocaust Memorial Museum, President \nClinton remarked:\n\n\t``The evil represented in this museum is incontestable, \nbut as we are its witness, so must we remain its adversary in the \nworld in which we live, so we must stop the fabricators of history \nand the bullies as well.\"\n\n\tClinton made this comment shortly after giving Janet Reno \nthe go-ahead to hastily construct a gas chamber and crematorium\nin Waco... on the fiftieth anniversary of the Warsaw uprising.\n\n\tSay, wasn't Monday also the anniversary of Paul Revere's ride?\nIs that a clue?","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>\nSubject: Zionist leaders' frank statements\n\nThe following are quotations from Zionist leaders. They appear in\nnumerous scholarly works dealing with the Palestine question. I urge those\nwho have access to original sources, to verify the authenticity of the\nsource and post here their finding, adhering to the truth whatever it be.\nThanks.\nElias Davidsson\n------------------------------\n\nQuotations from Zionist leaders\n\n1. \"There was no such thing as Palestinians\"\n(Golda Meir, Prime Minister of Israel, London Sunday \nTimes, 15 June 1969)\n\n2. \"There is, however, a difficulty from which the Zionist \ndares not avert his eyes, though he rarely likes to face it. \nPalestine proper has already its inhabitants.\"\n(Israel Zangwill, The Voice of Jerusalem, London 1920, \np.88)\n\n3. \"When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be \nable to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged \ncockroaches in a bottle.\"\n(Raphael Eitan, Israeli Chief of Staff, New York Times, 14 \nApril 1983)\n\n4. \"[The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs.\"\n(Menachem Begin, Prime Minister of Israel in a speech to \nthe Knesset,\nquoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, 'Begin and the \"Beasts\", New \nStatesman, 25 June 1982)\n\n5. \"Both the process of expropriation [of the Palestinians] \nand the removal of the poor must be carried out \ndiscreetly and circumspectly\".\n(Dr. Theodor Herzl, The Complete Diaries, Herzl Press, \n1960, I., p.88)\n\n6. \"Between ourselves it must be clear that there is no \nroom for both people together in this country...The only \nsolution is a Palestine.....without Arabs. And there is no \nother way than to transfer the Arabs from here to the \nneighboring countries, to transfer all of them; not one \nvillage, not one tribe, should be left.\"\n(Joseph Weitz, Jewish National Fund, administrator \nresponsible for Zionist colonization. Davar, 29 September \n1967).\n\n7.\"We shall try to spirit the penniless population [the \nPalestinians] across the border by procuring employment \nfor it in the transit countries, while denying it any \nemployment in our own country\"\n(Theodor Herzl, The Complete Diaries, Herzl Press, 1960, \nI, p.88)\n\n8. \"[Zionists]...looked for means...to cause the tens of \nthousands of sulky Arabs who remained in the Galilee to \nflee...I gathered all the Jewish muktars, who have contact \nwith Arabs in different villages and asked them to \nwhisper in the ears of some Arabs that a great Jewish \nreinforcement has arrived in Galilee and that it is going \nto burn all of the villages of the Huleh. They should \nsuggest to these Arabs, as their friends, to escape while \nthere is still time....The tactic reached its goal....wide \nareas were cleaned.\"\n\n(Yig'al Alon, Sepher Ha Palmach, in Hebrew, II. p.268, \nquoted in Khalidi, From Haven to Conquest, IPS, 1971).\n\n10. \"[Jews] must expel Arabs and take their place\" \n(David Ben Gurion, 1937, quoted in Shabtai Teveth, Ben \nGurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, \n1985, p. 89)\n\n11. \"We must do everything to ensure they [the \nPalestinian refugees] never do return\"\n(David Ben Gurion, in his diary, 19 July 1948, quoted in \nMichael Bar Zohar, Ben Gurion: The Armed Prophet, \nPrentice-Hall, 1967, p.157)\n\n12. \"The country was mostly an empty desert, with only \na few islands of Arab settlement\"\n(Shimon Peres, Minister of Defense, quoted in David's \nSling: The Arming of Israel, Weidenfeld and Nicholson, \n1970, p.249)\n\n13. \"All this story about the danger of extermination [of \nJews] has been blown up....to justify the annexation of \nnew Arab territories\"\n(Mordechai Bentov, Israeli Cabinet Minister, Al \nHamishmar, 14 April 1972)\n\n14. \"Neither Jewish ethics nor Jewish tradition can \ndisqualify terrorism as a means of combat\"\n(Yitzhak Shamir, Hehazit, Summer 1943 [Journal of the \nLEHI, the Stern Gang], translated from the Israeli daily \nAl-Hamishmar, 24 December 1987\n\n14. \"The domination of Jewish agriculture by Arab \nworkers is a cancer in our body\"\n(A. Uzan, Israeli Minister of Agriculture, Ha'aretz, 13 \nDecember 1974)\n\n15. \"There can be only one national home in Palestine, \nand that a Jewish one, and no equality in the partnership \nbetween Jews and Arabs\"\n(Montague David Eder, President of the Zionist \nFederation of Great Britain, 1931,\nin Doreen Ingrams, comp., Palestine Papers 1917-1922, \nSeeds of Conflict, George Braziller, 1973, p. 135)\n\n16. \"I hope that the Jewish frontiers of Palestine will be \nas great as Jewish energy for getting Palestine\"\n(Dr. Chaim Weizmann, first President of the State of \nIsrael, Excerpts from His Historic Statements, Writings \nand Addresses, Jewish Agency for Palestine, 1952, p.48)\n\n17. \"There is not a single Jewish village in this country \nthat has not been built on the site of an Arab village\"\n(Moshe Dayan, Ha'aretz, 4 April 1969...)\n\n18. \"Some people talk of expelling 700,000 to 800,000 \nArabs in the event of a new war, and instruments have \nbeen prepared\"\n(Aharon Yariv, former chief of Israeli military \nintelligence, 1980, Inquiry, 8 December 1980)\n\n19. \"If I was an Arab leader I would never make [peace] \nwith Israel. That is natural: we have taken their \ncountry.\"\n(David Ben Gurion, in Nahum Goldmann, The Jewish \nParadox, Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1978, p.99)\n\n20. \"We should there [in Palestine] form a portion of the \nrampart of Europe against Asia, an outpost of civilization \nas opposed to barbarism.\"\n(Dr. Theodor Herzl, The Jewish State, London, 1896, p. \n29)\n\n21. \"I deeply believe in launching preventive war \nagainst the Arab States without further hesitation. By \ndoing so we will achieve two targets: firstly, the \nannihilation of Arab power; and secondly, the expansion \nof our territory\"\n(Menachem Begin, in a speech to the Knesset, 12 October \n1955)\n\n22. \"During the last 100 years our people have been in a \nprocess of building up the country and the nation, of \nexpansion, of getting additional Jews and additional \nsettlements in order to expand the borders here. Let no \nJew say that the process has ended. Let no Jew say that \nwe are near the end of the road.\"\n(Moshe Dayan, Ma'ariv, 7 July 1968)\n\n23. \"Until the British left, no Jewish settlement, however \nremote, was entered or seized by the Arabs, while the \nHaganah, under severe and frequent attack, captured \nmany Arab positions and liberated Tiberias and Haifa, \nJaffa and Safad\"\n(David Ben Gurion, Rebirth and Destiny of Israel, \nPhilosophical Library, 1954, p.530)\n\n24. \"In the months preceding the Arab invasion [of \n1948], and while the five Arab states were conducting \npreparations, we continued to make sallies into Arab \nterritory. The conquest of Jaffa stands out as an event of \nfirst-rate importance in the struggle for Hebrew \nindependence early in May, on the eve of the invasion \nby the five Arab states.\"\n(Menachem Begin, The Revolt,  Nash, 1972, p.348)\n\n25. \"What the French could do in Tunisia, I said, the Jews \nwould be able to do in Palestine with Jewish will, Jewish \nmoney, Jewish power and Jewish enthusiasm\"\n(Dr. Chaim Weizmann, First President of the State of \nIsrael, Trial and Error, Harper, 1949, p.244)\n\n26. \"I do not think Nasser wanted war. The two divisions \nhe sent to the Sinai on May 14 [1967] would not have \nbeen sufficient to launch an offensive against Israel. He \nknew it and we knew it.\"\n(Yitzhak Rabin, Le Monde, 29 February 1968)\n\n27. \"To pretend that the Egyptian forces massed on our \nfrontiers [in 1967] were in position to threaten the \nexistence of Israel constitutes an insult not only to the \nintelligence of anyone capable of analyzing this sort of \nsituation, but above all an insult to the Zahal [Israeli \narmy]\"\n(General Res. Matti Peled, Ha'aretz,  19 March 1972)\n\n28. \"when we have broken the strength of the Arab \nLegion and bombarded Amman, we would wipe out \nTransjordan; after that Syria would fall....we would thus \nend the war, and would have put paid to Egypt, Assyria \nand Chaldea on behalf of our ancestors\"\n(David Ben Gurion in his diaries, quoted in Michael Bar-\nZohar,  The Armed Prophet, A Biography of Ben-Gurion, \nPrentice-Hall, 1967, p.139)\n\n29. \"These Jews of the Diaspora would like to see us, for \ntheir own reasons, heroes with our backs to the wall. But \nthis wish can in no way change the realities.\"\n(Israeli General Ezer Weizmann, Le Monde, 3 June 1972)","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nThis definitely had nothing to do with the entry of the government into\nthe support of science; some of it is relevant in technology.  There\nwas little involvement of federal funds, or except through support of\nstate universities, of state funds, for scientific research before WWII.\nThe US research position had been growing steadily, and the funding was\nmainly from university and private foundation funds.  There were not that\nmany research universities, but they all provided their researchers with\nlow teaching loads, laboratories, assistants, and equipment, and funds for\ntravel to scientific meetings.  Not that much, but it was provided, and a\nuniversity wishing to get a scholar had to consider research funding as well\nas salary.\n\nDuring WWII, the military and the defense departments found that pure\nscientists could do quite well with their problems, even though they \nwere not exactly in the areas of the scientists' expertise.  This is\nprobably because of the \"research mind\" approach, which is not to try\nto find a solution, but to understand the problem and see if a solution\nemerges.  This works in stages, and as research scientists were used to\ndiscussion about their problems, the job got done.\n\nThe military realized the importance of maintaining scientists for the\nfuture, and started funding pure research after WWII.  But Congress was\nunwilling to have military funds diverted into this investment into the\nfuture supply of scientists, and set up other organizations, such as \nNSF, to do the job.  It also set up an elaborate procedure to supposedly\nkeep politics out.  Also, the government did a job on private foundations,\nmaking it more difficult for them to act to support research.\n\nThe worst part of the federal involvement is that in those areas in which\nthe government supports research the university will not provide funding,\nand in fact expects its scholars to bring in net government money.  Suppose,\nas has been the case, I have a project which could use the assistance of\na graduate student for a few months.  What do you think happens if I ask\nfor one?  The answer I will get is, \"Get the money from NSF.\"  Now the\nmoney at the university level is a few thousand, but at the NSF level it\ncomes to about 20 thousand, and is likely to keep a faculty member from\ngetting supported.  So the government is, in effect, deciding which projects\nget supported, and how much.  \n\nAlso, the government decided that the \"wealth\" should be spread.  So instead\nof having a moderate number of universities which were primarily research\ninstitutions, the idea that more schools should get into the act came into\nbeing.  And instead of evaluating scholars, they had to go to evaluating\nreseach proposals.  As a researcher, I can tell you that any research proposal\nhas to be mainly wishful thinking, or as now happens, the investigator conceals\nalready done work to release it as the results of the research.  What I am\nproposing today I may solve before the funding is granted, I may find \nimpossible, or I may find that it is too difficult.  In addition, tomorrow\nI may get unexpected research results.  Possibly I may bet a bright idea\nwhich solves yesterday's too difficult problem, or a whole new approach to\nsomething I had not considered can develop.  This is the nature of the beast, \nand except for really vague statements, if something can be predicted, it\nis not major research, but development or routine activity not requiring \nmore than minimal attention of a good researcher.  \n\nI believe that at this time less quality research is being done than would\nhave happened if the government had never gotten into it, and the government\nis trying to divert researchers from thinkers to plodders.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"From: harelb@math.cornell.edu (misc.activism.progressive co-moderator)\nSubject: F<O>CUS\/HEALTH: Millions of Americans un-\/under- covered\n\nF<O>CUS\/HEALTH: Millions of Americans un-\/under- covered\n\n\t\t =================================== \n\t\t Percentage of population covered by \n\t\t  public health insurance, 1990(25) \n\t\t =================================== \n\n============================================= \nCOUNTRY      PERCENT  COUNTRY         PERCENT \n============================================= \nAustralia      100    Sweden            100 \nCanada         100    United Kingdom    100 \nDenmark        100    Austria            99 \nFinland        100    France             99 \nIreland        100    Switzerland        99 \nItaly          100    Spain              99 \nJapan          100    Belgium            98 \nNew Zealand    100    Germany            92 \nNetherlands    100    United States      21 \nNorway         100  \n\nSources: Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (Paris), \nHealth Data file, 1991: U.S.: National Center for Heath Statistics, Advance \nData, No. 201, June 18, 1991. \n\n******************************************************************\n\"We're Number One in percentage of population without health insurance. \n******************************************************************\n\n\"The main reason we're Number One in  percentage of population without\nhealth  insurance  is  that we're last  in  percentage  of  population\ncovered  by public health insurance. Only about one fifth of Americans\nqualify for the main types of public health insurance available in the\nUnited States: Medicare, Medicaid, and veterans' benefits.(2l)\n\n\"Of those  who don't  qualify, many  have private  insurance.(22)  But\nalmost  one  in  seven  Americans  (34  million people--most living in\nfamilies with a working adult) have  no insurance  at  all, and one in\nfour (63 million) have been without insurance for a substantial period\nof time during the last two years. Many more have inadequate coverage,\nmeaning that they could be bankrupted by a major illness.(23) In fact,\none  health  care  expert  says that because  only 1  percent  of  the\npopulation  has   private   longterm-care  insurance,  \"virtually  any\nAmerican could be  impoverished by a prolonged disabling illness.\"(24)\nAdditionally, as many as  40 percent of those  eligible for some forms\nof public aid do not  receive  it. These  gaps in health  care  result\ndirectly from  the  fact  that  the  United  States is  the only major\nindustrialized  nation (other than  South Africa) without  a  national\nhealth insurance  plan providing  universal coverage while controlling\ncosts.\n\n******************************************************************\nFrom: \n\n\n - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -    \n_We're Number One, Where America Stands -- and Falls -- in the New      \nWorld Order_ by Andrew L Shapiro.     \n\nNew York, May 1992, Vintage Books, a division of Random House.     \n$10 paperback. ISBN 0-679-73893-2    \n - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -     \n[Transcribed by jhwoodar@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Woodard)] \n\n    ``America is becoming a land of private greed and public squalor.     \n    This book is an indispensable road map through the wreckage. The     \n    facts it reveals will startle you. They may depress you. But     \n    ideally they'll fire you up to help rebuild this nation.'' ","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nNESN owns the rights to Bruin telecasts.  I suspect that NESN was only\ngoing to sell one telecast to ESPN (remember, ESPN only owns exclusive\nrights to the FINALS, not the entire playoffs).  Since ESPN bought the\nSCA contract, there are less wrangles to untie with showing the Devils\nand Penguins.\n\n\nI think the same broadcast rights factor comes into it.  Plus they\nhave no way of fitting western game times into their current schedule\nunless the NHL was willing to make a western club move up their game.\nI think the NHL got as much as it could when it shuffled the deck for ABC.\n\n\nSame exact coverage as last week:  Pit-NJ game 4 in the east, Chi-StL\nin the central, LA-Cgy in the mountains and west.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I just posted this reply to comp.risks (answering RISKS DIGEST 14.53).\nSummary: Re: [14.53 Mark Seecof] \"key escrow\"\n\n\n\nIt is tempting (albeit chauvinistic) to believe that we have a new situation\nhere, thanks to our pet computers.  This is not true.  David Kahn's \"The\nCodebreakers\", a history of cryptography, makes two things obvious:\n\n1.\tCryptography is a spontaneous invention of private human individuals\n\tand has been going on for thousands of years.  [Teen-age slang and\n\tcipher inventions provide a modern example of this spontaneous\n\tcreation.]\n\n2.\tThe systems people created on their own were roughly as secure as (and\n\tsometimes more secure than) those used by military and diplomatic\n\tusers *of that time* (although they seem very simple and insecure\n\ttoday). [e.g., In places, the Bible used a more complex simple\n\tsubstitution than Caesar did for his military dispatches, but before\n\tCaesar.]\n\nI commend Kahn's book to all who might be interested.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"A student told me today that she has been diagnosed with kidney stones, a\ncyst on one kidney, and a kidney infection.  She was upset because her\ncondition had been misdiagnosed since last fall, and she has been ill all\nthis time.  During her most recent doctor's appointment at her parents'\nHMO clinic, she said that about FORTY! x-rays were made of her kidney.\nWhen she asked why so many x-rays were being made, she was told by a\ntechnician that they need to see the area from different views, but she\nsays that about five x-rays were made from EACH angle.  She couldn't help\nfeeling that something must be wrong with the procedure or something.  She\nis a pre-med student and feels she could have understood what was\nhappening if someone would have explained.  When nobody would, she got\nworried.\n\tAlso, she is told that thre are 300! surgery patients ahead of her\nand that they cannot do surgery until August or so.  It is now April...\nShe is supposed to rest a lot and drink fluids.  But she has to go to\nclasses.  She wonders why they have given her no medicine.  She plans to\ncall back her doctor's office \/ clinic and try to get answers to these\nquestions.  But I told her I would also write in to sci.med and see what I\ncould find out about why there were so many x-rays and whether it seems\no.k. to wait in line 3 or more months for surgery for something like this\nor whether she should be looking elsewhere for her care.  She does plan to\nget a second opinion, too. \n\n\tI will pass info on to her.  It never hurts to get information\nfrom more than one source.  \n\nYou can e-mail me or post.\n\nThanks.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nI will poke around in the U of M archives and see if I find something. If\nanyone else finds this, please post the location! :-)\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nyes\n\n\nyes, seen glue-on, tape-on, clip-on, one-inch square and larger.\nmy favorite is the 3.5 inch plastic U.S.Toyo fan I use just plopped\ndown on top of the chip during open-case service.\n\n\ndepends on the mounting\n\n\nonly if the manufacturer was smart\n\n\nonly if it goes out - got that \"blanket\" effect which doesn't help chip life\n\n\nlonger system life makes good economic sense to me\n\n\nyes - well, not the melted cheese\n\n\nlets you touch the surface - the \"rule of thumb\" for cooling solid-state\n\n\nthe \"attached\" fans look slick and work well but I'm bothered by the potential\nloss of cooling if the fan goes out. at least with the power supply fan you\ncan reach back there every few days and feel the fan blowing.\n\nI prefer to put a stock fan off the drive brackets or front panel\nto blow air across the cpu - depends a lot on case and board layout, though.\n\non-chip fans from Fry's Electronics in the SF Bay Area are about 30.00. I\nget the stock power supply fans for about 11.00.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\n    Does anyone know how to redirect the stdout and stderr of a program to\n    a callback function in X ? The program does not fork() a child process\n    so I guess I can't use pipes.\n\n    Can anyone help ?\n\n    Thanks,","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"[...]\n\nAnd presumably this is a matter of degree; it must be common to prescribe\na drug that has _some_ chance of giving _some_ benefit, but not a high\nprobability of it, and\/or not a large benefit.  Right?\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"The general consensus seems to be that an extended keyboard (or the new\nergonomic keyboard) with mouse is ok. The PB160 is rated for 200mA which is\napparently identical to the LC and the LC works fine with said attachments.\n\nThanks very much to those who replied...I am now on my way to order a Battleship\nand a mouse....    :)","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nAhh, perhaps that's why we've (astronomers) have just built *2* 10-meter\nground-based scopes and are studying designs for larger ones.\nSeriously, though, you're never going to get a 10-meter scope into orbit\nas cheaply as you can build one on the ground, and with adaptive optics\nand a good site, the difference in quality is narrowed quite a bit\nanyway.  Also, scopes in low orbit (like Hubble) can only observe things\ncontinuously for ~45 minutes at a time, which can be a serious\nlimitation.\n\n\nI sure as hell does if the 'point of light' is half a degree in extent\nand as bright as the moon.  Have you ever noticed how much brighter the\nnight sky is on a moonlit night?\n\n\n\nExisting satellites *are* points of light, but an advertising sign that\nappeared as a point would be useless, so I rather think these will\nappear larger than a 'typical' satellite.  Also, satellite tracks *are*\nruining lots of plates in the current Palomar Sky Survey.\n\nWhat deparment are you in anyway, Philosophy?  You obviously are not\nqualified to speak about astronomy...","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"OK.  Instead of holding an auction, I have decided to compute prices for each comic (after many suggestions).  These are the most reasonable prices I can give (not negotiable).  If you would like to purchase a comic (or group), simply email me with the title and issue #'s you want.  The price for each issue is shown beside each comic.  First come, first served!!!  There is no more bidding.  Meet my price and it is yours.  I can be reached at this email address:\n\n02106@chopin.udel.edu or\n02106@ravel.udel.edu or\n02106@bach.udel.edu or\n02106@brahms.udel.edu\n\nNO MORE HAGGLING ABOUT THE PRICE!!!!!!!!\nLOTS OF COMICS FOR $1, $2, or $3 LOOK AT LIST!!!!!\n\nShipping is $2 for 1-3 comics.  For more than 3, the price will be determined by the volume of the purchase (I may have to use a big heavy box for large orders which costs more to mail).\n\nFor all those who have bought comics from me, thanks!!!\n\nAll comics are near mint unless otherwise noted (my books were graded by\nmile high comics and other comic professional collectors, not me!)\n\nHere is the list:\n\n*reserved* means that I have made a deal with a person and I am waiting for the check to arrive.\n*reserved* comics are as good as sold (sorry!)\n\nIncredible Hulk\n156 (vs another Hulk) $3\n195 $2\n196 $2\n246 (vs Captain Marvel) $1\n248 $1\n249 $1\n250 (Double size issue vs Silver Surfer) $5\n255 (vs Thor) $1\n279 $1\n300 $2\n312 $2\n313 $1\n316 (vs Bi Coastal Avengers) $1\n347 $1 *reserved*\n348 $1\n350 (vs Thing) $2\n354 $1\n358 $1\n360 $1\n362 (vs Werewolf By Night) $2\n364 $1\n365 $1\n366 $1 *reserved*\n379 (1 copy) $5\n\n\nPunisher\n50 $1\n57 $2\n\nPunisher War Journal\n29 (Ghost Rider) $2\n30 (Ghost Rider) $2\n\nPunisher Armory\n1 $4\n2 $2\n\nOriginal Ghost Rider Rides Again (Reprint)\n1 $1\n\nGhost Rider (old series)\n37 $3 *reserved*\n43 (vs Johnny Blaze) $3 *reserved*\n77 (2 copies, origin of GR dream) $4 each\n\nGhost Rider (new series)\n15 (1st print, Green glow in dark cover, 1 copy) $5\n15 (2nd print, gold cover w\/ glow cover) $3\n\nWeb of Spiderman\n56 (2 copies) $2 each\n60 $3\n69 (vs Hulk, 1 copy left!!!)  $2\n70 (SpiderHulk, 1 copy left!!!)  $2\n71 $1\n72 $1\n78 $1\n\nDeadly Foes of Spiderman\n1 (2 copies) $2 each\n2 $2\n3 $2\n\nAmazing Spiderman vs Dr. Octopus (special NACME issue) $2\n\nAmazing Spiderman \n350 (vs Dr. Doom, 1 copy LEFT!!!) $2\n\nSpiderman (1990)\n1 (silver, not bagged) $4\n6 $3\n7 $3\n8 (2 copies) $2 each\n9 (w\/ Wolverine, 1 COPY LEFT!!!) $2\n10 $2\n11 $1\n13 $5\n16 $1\n\nEnemy Ace Special #1 $2\n\nNew Warriors\n1 (gold cover) $2\n8 $4\n\nSuperman Man of Steel #1 $2\n\nSuperman (new)\n53 (2 copies) $1 each\n55 $1\n56 $1\n\nAdventures of Superman \n479 $1\nAnnual #3 $1\n\nSuperman Annual #3 (Armegedon 2001 tie in) $1\n\nAction Comics #666 $1\n\nAvengers West Coast #69 (Hawkeye vs US Agent) $1\n\nBatman\n465 (Robin returns) $2\n466 $1\n467 $1\nAnnual #15 (Armegedon 2001 tie in) $3\n\nCaptain America \n230 (vs Hulk) $2\n257 (vs Hulk) $1\n\n\nArmegedon 2001 \n1 $4\n2 $2\n\n\nFoolkiller #1 $2\n\n\nInfinity Gauntlet \n1 $6\n4 $3\n5 $3\n\nDouble Dragon #1 $1\n\nDeathlok (series) \n2 $1\n\nTransformers #80 (last issue) $2 \n\nWonder Man\n1 $1\n2 $1\n\nFlaming Carrot #25 (w\/ Ninja Turtles) $2\n\nThe Comet #1 $1\n\nLegend of the Shield #1 $1\n\nJustice Society of America\n1 $1\n2 $1\n3 $1\n4 $1\n\nOfficial movie mag from Turtles II movie (sealed w\/ Jelloman comic) $5\n\nRobin \n1 (1 copies w\/ poster) $3\n1 (3rd print) $1\n5 (6 copies) $1 each\n\nGuardians of the Galaxy \n1 $6\n2 $3\n3 $2\n4 $2\n5 $2\n6 $2\n7 $2\n8 $2\n9 (2 copies) $3 each\n10 $2\n11 $2\n12 $1\n13 $3\n14 $3\n15 $1\n16 $1\n17 $1\n18 (2 copies) $2 each\n\nSuperman vs Amazing Spiderman (oversized issue from 70's) $7 *reserved*\n\nDarkHawk\n1 (3 copies) $8 each\n2 (2 copies) $6 each\n3 $5\n4 $4\n5 $4\n6 $3\n7 $2\n8 $2\n9 $3\n10 $1\n\nThor\n246 $1\n428 $1\n429 (vs Juggernaut) $2\n430 (w\/ Ghost Rider) $1\n431 $1\n432 (Thor vs Loki, 2 copies) $3 each\n433 (new Thor) $2\nAnnual #16 $1\n\nWhat if....\n13 $1\n23 $1\n25 $2\n26 $1\n\nAlpha Flight\n29 $1\n51 $6\n53 $6\n94 (vs Fant. 4) $1\n\nNew Mutants\n22 $2\n100 (last issue, 1st look at X-Force, 1st print, 2 copies) $5 each\n100 (2nd print, gold cover) $4\n\nFlash (new)\n43 $1\n48 $1\n49 $1\n50 $2\n51 $1\nAnnual #4 $1\n\n\n\nUncanny X-Men\n191 $3\n215 $2\n255 (2 copies) $2 each\n258 $6\n275 (1 COPY LEFT 1st print) $6\n275 (gold 2nd print) $3\n276 $3\n277 $3\n278 $2\n279 $2\n280 $2\n281 $3\n282 $4\n283 $6\n\nDefenders\n52 (Hulk vs Sub Mariner) $2\n\n\nFantastic Four\n347 $4\n348 $2\n349 (3 copies) $2 each\n\nWolverine\n11 $3 *reserved*\n20 $2\n41 (w\/ Cable, 2 copies) $6 each\n42 $4\n43 $3\n\nSilver Surfer (1987)\n1 $6\n2 $3\n3 $3\n4 $3\n5 $2\n6 $2\n8 $2\n22 $2\n24 $2\n32 $2\n49 $2\n50 (Foil cover, only 1 copy left!!) $6\n51 $2\n52 $2\n53 $1\n54 $1\n55 $1\n56 $1\n58 $2\n59 $2\n\nAvengers\n326 $3\n328 (origin of Rage) $3\n\nX-Factor\n40 $6\n67 $3\n68 $6\n71 $3\n73 $1\n\nGreen Lantern (1990)\n3 $2\n9 (2 copies) $1 each\n10 $1\n11 $1\n12 $1\n\nToxic Avenger\n1 (3 copies) $1 each\n2 $1\n\nSleepwalker\n1 (3 copies) $2 each\n3 $1\n7 $1\n\nKool Aid Man #1 (sealed in white bag, 2 copies) $2 each\n\nX-Force\n1 (bagged w\/ Cable Card) $4\n1 (bagged w\/ Shatterstar Card) $3\n2 $2\n3 $1\n4 $1\n\nNFL Superpro\n1  $1\n\nDr. Strange #31 $1\n\nHawkworld Annual #2 (2nd print, Armegedon 2001 tie in) $1\n\nHawk & Dove Annual #2 (Armegedon 2001 tie in) $1\n\nJustice League of America Annual #5 (Armegedon 2001 tie in) $1\n\n\n\nSend all comments to\n\n02106@chopin.udel.edu\n\nThanks\nSam (the \"ex\"  comic book collector)\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":": >\n: >Unless, of course, the problem is that homosexuality is a form\n: >of mental disorder, caused by childhood sexual abuse, as a number of\n: >recent works suggest.\n: \n: Which number is that?  Zero?\n\nThe only time I have heard mention of such a mechanism is\nwith respect to FEMALE homosexuality resulting from HETEROSEXUAL\nchildhood abuse.\n(and this as only one of several factors affecting the same person)\n\nAs Mr Cramer appears to concentrate on MALE homosexuality\nI doubt this is what he has in mind.\n\n--","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nGiven that certain archival methods have certain key(cleartext) in a file I\nused a programatic dictionary attack.  I used the DES library provided with the\nsystem that I was using.  What is to keep anyone from being lucky with a key?\n \n\nMy previous employment has nothing to do with my current address, other than\nthe fact that the fastest machine in the office was an IBM RISC System\/6000 \nmodel 530, with 16 meg of memory.(not a super-computer)\n \n\nI really think this more of a statement of the limitations placed on the key\nby the interface(ascii char\/no padding), and most programs don't bother to\nclear off the archival front and backend ID's.\n\n\nYes any moderatly bright programmer with a little idle machine time, can\ncrack most of todays real world encryption.  I sure that you or I could\nselect a key, and prepare the data inorder that the decryption will become a \nworst case.  but that is not the real world, and I'm sure that is how any \nagency would start an attack on a message, as you pointed out, there are some \nvery good recognition algorithms availible, I'm just not familiar with them.\n\nA.G.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nThe entire business of a Bank is the management of risk.   That's\nwhat a Bank is for.   That's what people who work for Banks do.\n\n\nOK, but in that case why are you posting about it?   What I\nhear you saying is \"I don't understand this stuff, but if Islam\nsays it's so, it's so\".\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nWell, Your Majesty, ;^), couldn't you just picture it?  Cherry starts doing\nhis first post-game interview with Barrasso;  Tommy gives him that little look\n(like somebody crapped on his shoe) and then proceeds to give Don a\ntonsilectomy with his Sher-Wood.  Now that you could put on pay-per-view!\n\nHope you had a good laugh!","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nCarrying in the glove box is not covered...I'm not sure what I was \nthinking there. It _is_ legal in Oklahoma. \n\nOn inter-state travel, as long as it is legal for you to own\nat your point of origination and destination, the gun is carried\nin a locked compartment\/box (glove box specifically excluded) separate\nfrom the ammo, it is legal under Title 19, Chapter 44, Section 94(9? I\nforget, and my copy of the regs is at home) of the US Code. This,\nunfortunately, has not prevented the theft by state troopers of a\ncertain state (which shall remain nameless to protect the hopelessly\nstupid) under that state's law.\n\nGee, and I thought Federal Law overrode state law...\n\n\t\t\t\tJames","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"The subject line says it all.\n\n\t\/Thanks","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n  Nice ridin' Tex. I use the California DMV recommended technique:\nslow as you aproach said dog and wick it up as you pass. I've often\ncontemplated putting the boot in said dog's muzzle as I open the \nthrottle, but have never tried that. I figgure the impact would \nunballance me and I'd dump the bike. A bicycling technique I've\nemployed was to use my frame mounted tire pump to fend off dog\nattacks. On one occasion I was attacked by a pack of four dogs at\nonce while peddaling up a steep hill. I lost my right sock, but no\nblood. I complained to the local Animal Control department (after\ncomplaining to the owner of the dogs to no affect) about the dogs;\nno more dogs, no more attacks. The telephone worked much better\nthan the tire pump.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Posted for L. Neil Smith by Cathy Smith\n\n\n                         THE LIES OF TEXAS\n\nOkay, what have we learned?\n\nFor reasons still being kept secret, a federal agency already known \n-- well enough to be examined and rebuked by several legislative \ncommittees over the years -- for a longstanding, violent disregard\nof the law, invades the home of a man whose religious beliefs and \npersonal habits they abominate, violating his rights under the \nFirst, Second, Fourth, Fifth, Ninth, and Fourteenth Amendments to \nthe Constitution. \n\nThe man and his followers fight back, killing four of the outlaw \nagency's minions, wounding many more, and suffering their own \nlosses in the process. The agency responds by cutting off his \nelectricity, water, and especially his contact with the outside \nworld. They are then free to say anything at all about him -- in \npronouncements that contradict one another daily as the agency \nfinds itself locked in a bitter power struggle with another outfit \neager to gain credit for \"straightening out the mess\" -- and, more \nimportantly, to script his side of the subsequent \"negotiations\" \nany way they please. \n\nThe impasse lasts almost two months, ironically, at the same time \nfour L.A. cops are being given a second trial for brutalizing a \nsingle individual, sparking one of the ugliest riots in history. \nArmored vehicles surround the house, already ringed with snipers \nusing scoped, high-powered rifles. Loudspeakers playing obnoxious \nrecords at the highest possible volume, and searchlights, deprive \nthose in the house of sleep (in the aftermath, nobody in authority \nwill mention the effect this technique, originated by North Korean \nCommunists as a battle tactic, may have had on their judgment). \n\nFinally -- another irony -- on the 50th anniversary of the rising \nof the Warsaw Ghetto, some of the armor punches holes in the house \nand gas of some kind is injected. The house bursts into flame and \nis reduced to ashes in less than an hour. At least 80 lives, \nincluding those of more than a dozen children, are snuffed out. \n\nSpokesmen for the outlaw agencies, the Attorney General, and the \nPresident all hold press conferences to articulate a common theme: \nblame the victim. \n\nHe had illegal weapons -- as soon as they can be prepared in a \nsecret government workshop and planted among the cinders being \n\"examined\" by the agency that created them. He was abusing children \n-- the tapes will be stored with the data on the JFK assassination. \nHe set the fire -- our snipers saw him doing it. Film at 11 -- in \n3000 A.D. He shot his followers who tried to escape -- or was that \nJim Jones? Best of all, he's dead -- he can't say a damn thing to \nembarrass us, any more than when his contact with the world was \nsevered at the start of the whole travesty. \n\nA leading national paper claims 93% of the American people believe \nthat a man who resisted a savage attack on his home is somehow \nresponsible for everything that resulted. But when did you ever \nknow 93% of Americans to agree on anything -- doesn't this sound \nmore like the outcome of a Soviet election than an opinion poll? \n\nVery well, what can we infer from the above? For starters, never \nforget that, although Democratic careers are on the line (and \nrightfully so) over this fiasco, by the outlaw agency's admission, \nit was planned and rehearsed by a Republican administration. Which \nmay explain why Paul Harvey, who evidently used up all his courage \nand integrity changing his mind (at about the same time I did) \nabout the war in Viet Nam -- has been acting as little more than a \nmouthpiece for a state that has no regard for the Bill of Rights. \n\nMore importantly, when Rush Limbaugh, who's been a quivering tower \nof Jello during the whole thing, takes essentially the same stance \nas Bill Clinton, it's time for fundamental changes, if not in the \nsystem, then at least within yourself. \n\nOn March 5, back at the beginning, Mary Gingell, national chair of \nthe Libertarian Party, issued a press release condemning the outlaw \nagency and calling for its abolition. In fact, the LP has promised \nin its platform since 1977, for at least 16 years, to abolish both \nagencies involved in Waco. I'm proud to say I was there and helped \nto write that plank. \n\nTrue, the LP is tiny and insignificant (although less so than in \n1977 -- ask the Democrats in Georgia if you doubt it). But, alone \nin a howling wilderness of fascists scrambling now to cover their \nbehinds with phony polls and Big Lies, the LP is right about what \nhappened in Waco. And if their advice had been followed in 1977, \nWaco never would have happened. \n\nThink about it. And think about the fact that, if you've had enough \nof political parties more interested in collecting and holding \npower -- at whatever cost to the Bill of Rights, let alone human \nlife -- than in defending and expanding individual liberty, maybe \nthe change it's time for within yourself is to make the LP less \ntiny and insignificant by a single voice and a single vote.\n\nThink about it.\n\nL. Neil Smith\nAuthor: THE PROBABILITY BROACH, THE CRYSTAL EMPIRE, HENRY MARTYN, \nand (forthcoming) PALLAS\nEditor: LEVER ACTION BBS (303) 493-6674, FIDOnet: 1:306\/31.4\nLibertarian Second Amendment Caucus\nNRA Life Member","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nActually, a WERA racer, William Lumsden, considered running a Vmax in \nA Superstock.  He took it out to Talladega GPR for a practice day, and\n_really_ annoyed the 600 riders -- they usually got caught behind a \nsideways Vmax in the corners, and if they passed him going in, he'd\nblow by down the straight (usually wobbling).  Needless to say, since\nhe was 2 seconds faster on a 1977 CB400F, he decided against the Vmax.\n\nToo bad.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"From: nataraja@rtsg.mot.com (Kumaravel Natarajan)\n\n\nThe technology Cummins is applying to diesels to comply with\nthe newer Ca. emissions laws involves three things I know of:\n\n1. All compliant diesels are turbocharged.\n2. All use an \"aftercooler\", which cools the air which was heated\n   by compression by the turbocharger (up to about 25 PSI).\n3. A gismo on the injector pump which senses the pressurized air\n   intake, and limits full delivery of fuel while the pressure is\n   low.\n\nNo scrubbers, catalytic converters, etc, are used.  The path from\nthe turbocharger to the exhaust outlet is kept very free.\n\nInterestingly, except for the low-pressure fuel limitation, power output \nand mileage are enhanced by these measures.  One can buy aftermarket\nturbos and aftercoolers which generate more power, lots more power,\nand these are approved by the CARB.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nSorry for the delay in replying; your message only showed up today (23 Apr)\non apple.com. QuickDraw GX is not a replacement for QuickDraw; the two of\nthem live quite happily together. You may write an app that only uses GX\nif you want, or you may write a hybrid app that uses both. Suptayoo.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n     Why don't we move down even further toward the masses by setting this\nup on an IBM PC clone(probably needs to be a 386 or a 486) with a \nsound blaster and a V.32bis modem.  Those components are very widely\navailable.  I don't know if the PC has enough horsepower to encrypt the data\nat realtime, but the sound blaster has 4 to 1 hardware compression and will\nwork at any sampling rate from 4KHz to 23 KHz.\n\nDoug Holland\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Hi there,\n\n      I was wondering if anyone knew if John Wetteland was put on the DL again\n      after his first 15-day period was up? I read in the USA Today Sports \n      section that he is on for \"surgery to repair broken toe\", and was\n      wondering if that was new. I thought he was just letting it heal. \n\n      Another question, Is Derek Lilliquist the main closer for the Indians now\n      that Olin is gone. I need to know cause I need to find a reliever to \n      replace Wetteland and so far Lilliquist is doing ok. Any information on\n      either of the players would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your\n      time. \n\n\n      Ryan Robin.\n\n___________________________________________________________ ","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":".\n  Of some relevance to the posts on this subject might be Deut.23:2,","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"From article <1r8uckINNcmf@gap.caltech.edu>, by wen-king@cs.caltech.edu (Wen-King Su):\n\n--Yes, it does come with the Maxima GXE engine mated to the Maxima SE\n  transmission.  And it has decent power for a minivan also.  \n\n  Check again.\n\n--Aamir Qazi\n-- ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nWell, on the contrary, I thought Dave was rather taken with her and her\naccent...\"(H)ockey is my passion\"... ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nThe domain address of the WHO is:  who.arcom.ch\nSo try sending email to  postmaster@who.arcom.ch\n\nJosh\nbackon@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL\n\n\n\n\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nAre you kidding?  I'm stuck with the Toronto SkyDome, where their idea\nof a 7th inning stretch is that \"Blue Jays\" song where everyone gets\nto yell:  \"Okay, okay, Blue Jays, Blue Jays, Let's Play Ball!\"\n\nWow.. what genius did it take to compose that one, to outshine the\nold classic.  And there are women on the field to \"lead the crowd\".","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nI would have to say that the \"greatest philosopher\" title would have to\ngo to Plato since the whole enterprise of philosophy was essentially\ndefined by him.  Although he got most of his answers wrong, he did \ndefinitively identify what the important questions are.  I think it\nwas Descartes who said that \"All philosophy is just a footnote to Plato.\"\n\nIf I were to choose which philosopher made the most important advances\nin human knowledge over his lifetime, that's simple...it is Aristotle.\nThis is so much the case that many simply refer to him as \"the philosopher\".\n\nRegarding Nietzsche, he's one of the most entertaining, although since his\nideas were so fragmented (and since his life was cut short) it is doubtful\nthat his influence as a philosopher is likely to be very extensive 500 years\nfrom now.  They'll probably still be reading him in 500 years though.\n\nAs for \"modern\" philosophers, I would have to say that Kant was the most\ninfluential since he had such a strong influence on almost everyone who\ncame after him (and unfortunately, they maintained his errors and \namplified them over time).\n\nI would say that the most influential \"american\" philosopher would have to\nbe Dewey.\n\nBut as to the question of what philosopher will be most highly regarded in\n500 years, it may very well be Ayn Rand (who in every important respect\nwas \"American\", but was born in Russia).  But I guess that remains to be seen.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nDancing With Idjits.\n\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nI believe Acker got a ring from his wife when they were married\n\n \n\n\nI don't know why you guys keep bickering about Morris. The stats show he\nis a mediocre pitcher at best (this year is another case), he just happened\nto win 21 games. I saw many of his games last year, he did pitch some good\ngames. But this crap about being a clutch pitcher is nonsense, he was \nconstantly giving up go ahead runs in the 6-8th innings (the clutch innings)\nand the Jays would somehow scrape a win for him. Another major factor in\nhis 21 wins, is that Cito 'I dont realize i have a bullpen' Gaston would\nleave Morris in for ever, therefore giving him many more chances to win\ngames (i believe this is the major reason he won 21 games last year).\n\n\nBarry Walker\nBNR \nOttawa\nCanada","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nTry swapping the phone cables in the back of the modem.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Sorry,  forgot to add its a Jap.  import\nAndy\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"stuff deleted - but message is:\n: \n \n: \n: >He is God.\n: \n: In other words, the right of might.\n: \n: >He is God.\n: \n: In other words, the right of might.\n: \n: \n: \n: >God granted you the gift of life whether you were sinner or saint.\n: \n: In other words, he can do it, he did it, and your in no position to\n: argue about it.\n:  \n: >one that must be killed by Him.  Note:  I say that God and God alone is\n: >worthy to be Judge, Jury and Executioner.  We are not called to carry out\n: >such duties because we are not worthy.\n:  \n: In other words, you better do what this God wants you to do, or else!\n: \n: >|> Who is god to impose its rules on us ? Who can tell if god is REALLY so\n: \n: \n: >God is God.  Who are we to question the Creator?  If you doubt God's doing\n: >in certain situations, do you claim to know a better solution?  Would you\n: >be playing the role of God?\n: \n: In other words, its his game, he made the rules, and if you know whats\n: good for you you'll play his game his way.\n: \n\n Careful there, you make God out to be some spoiled little deity that when\nhe can't have his way takes his ball and goes home.\n\nNow that you mention it....\n\nNaw... Can't be right, makes sense. ","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nI'm a little worried about this pitching thing.  6.08 is scarry even for\nthe first 16 games of the season.  Mesa (sp?) seems to be settling down. \nHe pitched well against the Red Soxs, but The Rocket matched him.  I got a\nchance to watch them play against California Wednesday and he pitched well\nalso.  Then the dam broke.  Wickander came in and promptly it was 6-1.  (3\nrun homer by Snow?).\n\nI heard the guys on ESPN say that 7 of the TRIBE's top 10 prospects are\npitchers.  Anyone out there like to post who these guys are and where they\nare?\nThe TRIBE is on ESPN again tonight against Oakland.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Lexus es300, gs300, sc300, Infiniti J30, Dozens of others, including\ncommon cars like the Toyota Camry (as an option).\nLexus ls400, sc400, Acura Legend, Infiniti Q45, Lincoln Mark VIII, some\ncadillacs and other luxury autos.\n\nV10 - Dodge viper (?)\n\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"                                         [ to a .rle file   ^^^^^^^]\n\n I thought I'd reply to this, though I ain't brad.  AT any case, a lot\nof picture-file viewers that will convert, say, between .gif,etc, to\n.bmp *will* convert to .rle.  I Know for a fact that PaintShop\n(shareware from cica; \/desktop, I think, filename psVVV.zip (I think,\nwhere VVV is the ver. number.  If that's not true, let me know and I\"ll\npost a corection).\n\n\nThis, however, will write your .rle file with a .bmp extension, so you\nhave to rename it.\n\nNOW, another thing....\nthis is from the windows' FAQ:\n\nyour file has to be less than 64 K\n( at least that's what the faq says, but Mine wont work for more than\nabout 30...maybe they mend 32K, I don't know).\n\nYour file has to fit VGA size (480 * 860, or whatever standard vga size\nis.)  If you use a non-vga screen (e.g. Cga, ega, svga, there is also a\nway to do it, but I thing instead of vgalogo.lgo you use another file,\nsuch as cgalogo.lgo, egalogo.lgo, or something.  I'm not sure about\nthis, as I have a vga, but i'm sure you could find it in the faq (a\nwindows help ver. of which *is* available at cica, but don't konw the\nfilename). \n\nALSO....your .bmp has to be 16 COLOURS Or less.\n\nThese specs rule out some of the good .bmp's.  I found cartoon drawings\nwork quite well as they have the advantage of looking good with little\nmemory.\n\nFinally, REMEMBER TO SAVE YOUR CURRENT WIN.COM before, and put your\nnew win.com in the windows directory.  Also, don't start windows from a\ndirectory where another win.com is present, as *that* is used instead of\nthe one in the windows dir, and win. won't start.\n\n\nShare this fairly, but don't take a slice of my pie (PF).\n\nMickey\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nVW and Mercedes have tinkered with particulate traps.  Also, VW\nuses a kind of turbocharger on their Jetta ECOdiesel that helps\nreduce particulates as well, although I don't know the\nmechanics of it.\n\nMany diesel cars,busses, and trucks in Europe are now being\nequipped with catalysts and traps in an effort to clean up\ndiesel emissions, already well below legal limits anyway.\n\nIt's a shame GM had to soil the diesel's reputation in\npassenger cars and prevent further resource devotion to\nresearch into making this outstandingly efficient engine even\nfurther ahead of gas engines in emissions.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"From: bsw@utrc.utc.com (Bruce S. Winters)\nSubject: Re: Warped brake discs on '91 Taurus L\n\n   >In the past few years I have owned 3 Mustang GTs and now own a 91 T-Bird\n   >SC.  They all have had this problem. There was a recall on the T-bird for\n   >the brake problem. The Ford dealer replaced the rotors and pads but the\n   >rotors warp after about 10K miles. Between this problem and the fit and\n   >finish problems on the T-Bird I'll never buy a Ford again.\n\n       I just had my rotors on my '92 Taurus GL changed less than 500 miles\n   ago and...you guessed it, I'm noticing slight warpage in the left rotor.\n   :-(  I had a mechanic friend of mine look at it and he said that there is a\n   high spot on the rotor that is causing the problem.  This is a brand new\n   rotor bought from a Ford Dealership.  Can't they even produce a brand new\n   rotor that is not warped?  I'm currently negotiating with them to swap it\n   out for a new rotor.\n\n       This is my first American build car and I'm not overly impressed.\n\n   Tony\n--","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nWood is fairly small for an enforcer-type. I mean, Fleury does a pretty good\njob and isn't that large, but Dody is no Fleury. \n\nHaving been witness to three or four of his fights closeup, he simply isn't\nready to fight at an NHL level (assuming that it's his role, which is ALL he\nreally showed us in his few games up from K.C. -- if he can pass, shoot or\nskate, I never saw much of it). All he has is a right fist, which isn't bad,\nbut at the NHL level, the other players are smart enough to grab the thing\nbefore he can land anything significant. Once you control that hand, he's a\nfish flopping on the beach and the other player can do just about anything\nhe wants to him. His entire strategy seemed to be keep the hand out of reach\nuntil he found an opening -- and I never once saw him find an opening worth\ntalking about. He got neutralized quickly, and stomped on a couple of times.\n\nUnless he shows some new tricks in camp, he'll be on my \"career minor\nleaguer\" list. Since this was his first taste of the NHL, I expect the\nSharks gave it to him so he'd KNOW what he'd have to work on off-season. He\nneeds to get stronger, he needs to get more speed and he needs to show some\nversatility as something else than a simply goond, because he wasn't\nparticularly good as a goon.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"This was posted by Lyn Bates to the firearms-politics mailing list:\n\nI recently learned that Don Kates was going to be in Boston to give a talk\nat the Harbard Law School about the Waco situation.  (Of course, this was\nall set up after the incident started but long before its unhappy\nconclusion.)  So, yesterday I went to hear him.  What follows is a rough\nsummary of what I think I heard him say, which should not be taken as\nexactly what he actually said...\n\nKates started by saying that since he didn't know any more about the fire\nthan the audience did (it had just happened the day before), he would not\ndiscuss that, but would concentrate on the original raid.\n\nKoresh definitely was not playing with a full deck.  But so what?  This\nisn't the first time that the leader of a new, small religious group has\nbeen ridiculed by the public.  Extreme religious views nearly always fuel\nhatred and mistrust.  The first amendment applies, maybe especially, to\npeople like Koresh.\n\nLengthy digression into the history of police organizations in the US.\nThere were none until about 1830, when they began in metropolitan areas.\nPolice originally were not armed; if they found a crime in progress, they\ncalled local armed citizens to help.  Many began to carry arms for\nprotection despite regulations against them, eventually the laws were\nchanged to allow them to carry guns.  The original intent was to have many\nsmall police departments, jealous of one another and competitive, but not\nlarge enough to be a threat to liberty, hence the plethora of\norganizations ranging from postal inspectors to the coast guard.  When the\nFBI was started, agents did not have the authority oto carry guns (they\nwere to be, after all, a bureau of investigation, not a police force).\n\"All police agencies will be misused by anyone in power to maintain that\npower.\"\n\nThe BATF started as a tax collection agency, whose primary job was to raid\nillegal stills.  When the price of sugar went up so high that moonshiners\nno longer found their trade no longer profitable, many illegal stills\ndisappeared, and the BATF needed something else to do to justify its\nexistence, so it turned to activities like phony raids on gun stores.\nAround the time when the BATF's annual budget is under review, the media\nis alerted by the BATF to come to such-and-such a place, where at a\npre-arranged time, a bunch of cars full of BATF agents roar up to the door\nand the media get great pictures of the agents entering the premises of a\ngun dealer suspected of not keeping books properly.  The media isn't\ninvited in for the boring hours of agents leafing through paperwork, but\nif any irregularities are found, the media gets to cover the agents\nremoving armfuls of guns from the premises, and the luckless FFL in\nchains.\n\nThe Waco incident happened a few weeks before BATF's budget was up for\nreview.\n\nKates' opinion is that it was a staged publicity stunt that went bad, and\nthat the BATF never thought for a moment that they would actually be shot\nat, or they would have planned the raid differently (not sending 100\nagents over open ground with no cover, for example), and would have had\nsome medical personnel on hand.\n\nHe confirmed that some years ago there was a warrant for Koresh's arrest\nin connection with a murder charge, and the local sheriff called him on\nthe phone and explained about it.  Koresh sais, ok, come pick me up, and\nthe sheriff did, temporarily confiscating all the guns so that they could\nbe tested.  Koresh was later cleared, release, and presumably got his guns\nback.  At least at that time, he was rational enough to be approached\nrationally, and behaved in a reasonable manner.\n\nThe BATF didn't take into account that, unlike most of the FFL's they\naudit, Koresh was actually paranoid, and fostered paranoia in his\nfollowers.  Thus the pubicity stunt looked like a real attack to them, and\nthey reacted accordingly.\n\nWith respect to the original warrant, it had not been unsealed when Kates\nwas giving his talk, so he could not comment on it, except to mention that\nthe BATF has been known to not double-check the veractiy of their\ninformants, if they can manage to get a judge to issue a warrant.  He had\nmore to say about the way the warrant was served, which may have been\ncompletely illegal.  Apparently the proper way to serve a warrant is to\nknock on the door and announce that you're an officer with a warrant for\nthus-and-so; if they don't open the door and the evidence is flushable,\nthen it is ok to break in the door.  But since it is hard to flush guns\ndown the toilet, there may have been no justification for the BATF\nbreaking in the way they did.  If the constitutional rights of the\nDavidians were violated by an invalid warrant, or by an improperly served\nwarrant, then the Davidians may have been justified in their actons.  A\nclose look at one of the original films shows that one BATF agent _may_\nhave shot himself by accident when entering the building; if so, this was\nthe first shot fired!\n\nThe role of the media could have been a whole lot worse.  After an initial\nposition on the side of the BATF, the media began to come around to the\nview that this might be a situation in which legally armed citizens held\noff a bad, possibly illegal attack.  A real cynic might say that the FBI\nwent in when they did because it was clear that public opinion was\nbeginning to change sides, and the FBI wanted to act before they lost the\npublic's sympathy.\n\nShould the BATF be abolished?  No.  Police agencies _should_ be numerous,\ndiverse, inefficient, decentralized, etc.  Better a few inept accidents\nlike this, than a move toward a single, large, well-organized,\nwell-trained, powerful, domestic police force, which would eventually have\neven more tragic results.\n\n   - Lyn Bates\n     (bates@bbn.com)\n\nPS Don Kates will be giving a shorter version of this talk at Boston\nCollege Law School next Tuesday, April 27.  I don't know the exact time or\nplace, but presumably a phone call to the BC law school could elicit that\ninformation.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"After reading many postings concerning hard drives I'm still unclear\nabout one thing.  These new \"cached hard drives\" - is the cache on the\ndrive itself or is it separate, like on the controller or something?\nThanks to anyone who can clear this up.\n\n-- ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
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{"text":"\nAs of the third edition (June 92) the O'Reilly book (Vol 2) under\n\nBadMatch\n\tAny invalid setting of a window attribute\n\tAttribute besides win_gravity, event_mask, do_not_propogate+mask,\n\t    override_redirect, or cursor specified for InputOnly window\n\tdepth non-zero for InputOnly\n\tParent of InputOutput is InputOnly\n\tborder_width is non-zero for InputOnly\n\tdepth or visual invalid for screen\n\twidth or height is 0\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"And then cosper@seq.uncwil.edu (Kit Cosper) quoth:\n=>A comment made by one of the Braves announcers, attributed to\n=>an anonymous player after Friday night's game,\n=>\n=>\t\"I'm sorry we didn't tie it up, I wanted to see some more\n=>\t umpiring.\"\n=>\n=>Just about sums it up.............\n\nSure, like Ron Gant wasn't completely out of line.\n\nIf I were Hirschbeck, I would have ejected, in order, Ron Gant, every single\nlast Brave who came onto the field, and possibly Bobby Cox, depending on the\nlanguage he used.  Since Cox was the only Brave rung up, I suspect I would\nhave thrown him out too.\n\nYou simply cannot show up an umpire like Ron Gant did.  It is disrespectful\nof not only the home plate umpire, but of the dignity of the game.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nJust ask postmaster for the e-mail address of the printer. :-)","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nThe annihilation of Islam (\"Turks\") is an older Serbian agenda.   But\nI strongly dispute your notion that Croats had a similar older agenda,\nin fact, for the past century or two, Croats and Muslims have seen\nthemselves as having a lot in common, and they generally had friendly\nrelations.  Your suggestion that Croat-Muslim relationship is \nanything like Serb-Muslim relationship is completely wrong.\n\nTo say that Croats and Muslims have a lot in common does not imply\nthey are not separate peoples.  The events of the past two years\nclearly show Muslim determination to remain separate: in their alliance\nwith Croats, they maintained this separation.  Croats would have\naccepted a much closer relationship, I think.  This century plus\nof building bridges between these two friendly peoples is now at\nrisk, because of the inexorable logic of war.  \n\nSince Bosnian Serbs (32% of population) have 10 times more heavy\nweapons than Bosnian Muslims (44%) and Croats (17%) combined, they\nhave squeezed Muslims and Croats into only 30% of the territory.\nMuslims lost more territory than Croats (who built defenses early on).\n\nUnder these conditions, any alliance is bound to fall apart since\nit is easier to recover lost land from Croats than from Serbs.\nThe only thing keeping this in check was the hope of reversal of\nfortunes through foreign military intervention and lifting of the\narms embargo.  Since Warren Christopher had no luck persuading\nthe Europeans to go along with this, this hope was dashed.  Having\nno prospect of outside help, the former allies turned on each other,\nlike two starved animals in a tight cage.\n\nThis inexorable logic, of course, got plenty of help from Serbian\nintelligence operatives, who were doing everything to build\nmistrust between Croats and Muslims for over a year.  A timely\nintervention to stop Serbian aggression would have prevented this.\n\nSadly, nothing was done to create a balance of power on the\nground.  As long as the Serbs enjoy 10:1 advantage, they can \nbreak any alliance, even among friends.  This is tragic, but\nhardly new: \"divide et impera\" was used by ancient Romans\nwith success.  In my view, Bosnian Muslims and Croats managed\nto resist this divisive strategy reasonably well until May 9, 1993,\nwhen the hope of reversal of fortunes was lost.  \n\nI have a question for the distinguished diplomats: do they\nbelieve Balkan peoples are experimental cannon fodder?  I'd like to know\nwhat did they expect when they decided to enforce the arms embargo which\nsolidified Serbian 10:1 advantage in heavy weapons; how did they expect\nto prevent fragmentation of the Muslim and Croat defense forces;  and how\non Earth do they hope to restore peace without justice?\n\nThe implications of this immoral approach I cannot begin to predict,\nbut I am filled with foreboding...","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I find this remark to be awfully arrogant.  I would venture to \nsay that there are many people who are Christians now, who at one\npoint in their lives had no intention of ever becoming a Christian.\nI was certainly one such person.  I am quite thankful that there \nwere Christians who were willing to continue to talk to me, despite\nthe appearance that it might have been a waste of their time and \nmine.  (I even married one of them.)","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"+--------------+ \n ||+----------+ |           Are                    +-------------+\n ||| All The  | |          there                   | ===========+|\n ||| PC News  | |           any?                   |' Mac SE    ||\n ||| That Fit | |            |                     |'        or ||\n ||| on TV    | |            |                     |' Classic   ||\n ||+----------+ |            v                     |' [68000]   ||\n ||||||||||||||||=--+  +---------+                 |'- - - - - -+|\n ++-------+++++++   +--+   Frame |   +--------+    | ______::::::|\n | [video]'\"\"\"\"'|=--+  | Grabber |   | Mac    +---=| ------======|\n |________LLLLLL|      |   Board +---+ Vision |    |||||||||||||||\n ~~            ~~      +=========+   +========+    |||||||||||||||\n _____________________________________________________________________\n\n I know of several NuBus frame-grabber boards but wonder if there\n might be similar ones for the lesser Macs (those without slots),\n something permitting instant freezing of a video picture (PAL) \n and feeding it in without jaggies to a simple digitizer like \n MacVision (which takes 22 secs to scan a picture, so a frame\n grabber is a necessity). \n\n The objective is 512*342 1bit\/ pixel (B\/W) pictures stored in\n HyperCard... have tried using top-quality VCR with freeze-frame\n function but the screens come out full of streaks and garbage.\n\n    PLEASE reply ONLY to ----------> ianf@random.se\n      and I'll summarize\n      to the net (cannot\n   read such high-volume\n    group as is c.s.m.h)             Thanks!\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I don't know for sure that this will work, but you might try MEK (methyl\nethyl keytone?).  It worked getting the stickum left over from shelf paper,\nand is available at paint stores.  Use a carbon gas mask and lots of\nventilation--this stuff really stinks!","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Having vainly looked for devices capable of dealing to the NEC 77P20\nDSP chip which dont require taking out a mortgage, i decided to roll\nmy own. Not a difficult task for an 8751, given that all the timing\nrelationships are set out in the databook. One thing bothers me, that\nis the accursed 50ms 21 volt Vpp pulse. Sure, a little buck step-up\nconverter can achieve this (in what is otherwise an all 5 volt widget)\nbut i know latterday eproms dont need nearly this pulse length.\nQ : has anyone come up with a more efficient programming algorithm\nwhich is failsafe ?\ncheers\nMike.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n  Even better, let's pass a law making it illegal to kill people\nwith bombs of *any* sort.\n\n--henry schaffer","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Just thought of something.  Yes, laptops can still be read, but it's not quite\nas easy as a normal pc with a CRT.  My thought, Airline pilots lately have\nbeen complaining about how laptops being used in flight mess with the plane's\ninstruments.  If this can be hyped up, manufacturers may start building\nlaptops with even lower emmisions.  It would probably still be possible to\npick up with surveillance equipment, but at this point, it would be a lot\ncheaper to mask the remaining signals with TEMPEST techniques.\n\nDoug Holland\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nMe too!","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Frequently-asked questions about the OPEN LOOK Graphical User Interface.\n\nIf your question isn't here, please try (at *least*)\n\tman openwin\n\tman xnews\n\tman 7 xview\nand looking in the appropriate manuals listed in the Bibliography below\nbefore posting to the comp.windows.open-look, comp.windows.x or\nalt.toolkits.xview newsgroups and\/or their corresponding mailing lists.\n\nSpecial Notes:\n    * I have not updated this FAQ for the recently-announced OpenWindows 4,\n      due to ship later this year.\n    * Yes, Sun is moving to Motif, along with all of COSE.  But the Motif to\n      which they move will be a new Motif, with some of the OPEN LOOK UI\n      features added.\n    * Yes, OpenWindows 4 will use DPS instead of NeWS.  NeWS is dead.\n      This means TNT is dead, too.\n    * XView and OLIT will be supported, but probably not enhanced after the\n      next release.  I don't know if there will be a source release of\n      XView 3.1 or not.\n    * The COSE Environment will include at least some of Sun's DeskSet,\n      ported to Motif.  Look for Calendar Manager and Mailtool, at least.\n    * Yes, the new Mailtool will be MIME-compliant.\n\nFrequently Asked Questions for X11 are posted to comp.windows.x monthly.\n\nThis is version: $Revision: 1.48 $; Last posted version:  1.46\n\nContents: (in rn and trn you can use control-G to go to the next topic)\n\n    Subject: Terminology: OPEN LOOK, OpenWindows, X11, XView, (MO)OLIT, Motif\n    Subject: Window Managers -- olwm, olvwm\n    Subject: OpenWindows, Terminals, and Other Displays\n    Subject: Configuration Files: Getting started with OpenWindows\n    Subject: Key Bindings, Cut and Paste\n    Subject: Applications: Finding Out...\n    Subject: DeskSet, Calendar Manager, etc.\n    Subject: Trouble Shooting: Strange Error Messages\n    Subject: Trouble Shooting: It Won't Let Me Type\n    Subject: Trouble Shooting: Not authorized to use display\n    Subject: Trouble Shooting: other common problems\n    Subject: Trouble Shooting: XView problems\n    Subject: Fonts\n    Subject: Environment Variables\n    Subject: Where Can I get It? Ftp, implementations, etc...\n    Subject: Bibliography -- books, manuals, journals, papers, beer-mats\n    Subject: Getting this File, Revision History, Recent Changes\n\n\nSubject: Terminology: OPEN LOOK, OpenWindows, X11, XView, OLIT, MOOLIT, Motif\n\n@ What is OPEN LOOK?\n    OPEN LOOK is a specification of a Graphical User Interface (GUI).\n    A GUI determines the `look and feel' of a system -- the shape of\n    windows, buttons and scroll-bars, how you resize things, how you\n    edit files, etc.\n\n    The OPEN LOOK GUI is specified, developed and maintained jointly by\n    Sun Microsystems and AT&T (or USL?).\n\n    See Also:\n\tBibliography\n\n@ What is OpenWindows?\n    OpenWindows is a windowing environment that conforms to the OPEN LOOK\n    Graphical User Interface Specifications.  It's compatible with the\n    X11 window system from MIT as well as (currently) Sun's NeWS and SunView,\n    so you can intermix programs written for any of those systems.\n    It comes from Sun and also with System V Release 4 from certain vendors.\n    OpenWindows is sometimes also called openwin or xnews, after the\n    program used to start it and the main executable itself, respectively.\n    It should not be called `Windows' or 'OPEN LOOK' or `OpenLook', as\n    these terms are either wrong or apply to something else.\n    A commerical OpenWindows source licence costs about $5,000 for the server,\n    plus about $25,000 for DeskSet, and another $40,000 for ToolTalk.\n    The current versions of OpenWindows for various platforms are:\n\tSunOS 4.1.1 on Sun 3: 2.0\n\tSolaris 1.x (SunOS 4.1.x) on SPARC: 3.0\n\tSolaris 2.0 (SunOS 5) on SPARC: 3.0.1\n\n    See Also:\n\tMixing X11 and OpenWindows\n\tWhere can I get it?\n\n@ What are OLIT, XView and TNT?\n    These are all toolkits for programmers to use in developing programs\n    that conform to the OPEN LOOK specifications.  See the Bibliography\n    for documentation on the individual toolkits.  Here's a brief summary:\n\n    OLIT was AT&T's OPEN LOOK Intrinsics Toolkit for the X Window system;\n    it used a widget set, and was probably the easiest for people who were\n    already X11\/Xt programmers to learn.  You could buy the source from AT&T,\n    although you didn't get the same version tht Sun ship.  Sun includes the\n    OLIT library in OpenWindows (q.v.); it is also often included in\n    System V Release 4.  It was written in C.  The release of OLIT in\n    OpenWindows 3.0 was OLIT 3.0.  OLIT support passed to USL (then a\n    division of AT&T, now owned by Novell), who replaced it with MoOLIT (q.v.).\n    Note that because of the nature of Xt subclassing, you will probably\n    want or need OLIT source in order to develop a large application or\n    anything else that uses subclasses.\n    [see the proceedings of the 1991 X Technical Conference]\n\n    XView is Sun's toolkit for X11, written in C.  XView is similar in\n    programmer interface to SunView.  There's even a shell script to help\n    migrate source code from SunView to XView.\t XView is often said to be\n    the easiest toolkit to learn if you are not familiar with X Windows.\n    The XView toolkit is included in OpenWindows, and full source is\n    available by anonymous ftp from export.lcs.mit.edu (and elsewhere).\n    The current version of XView from Sun is 3.0.\n    Despite rumours to the contrary -- some even from within Sun -- the\n    XView toolkit is *NOT* about to be dropped by Sun.  XView *will* be\n    included in the next release of OpenWindows, unlike NeWS.\n    On the other hand, the XView toolkit is not likely to receive as much\n    attention from Sun in the future as OLIT.\n\n    The NeWS Toolkit (TNT) was an object-oriented programming system based\n    on the PostScript language and NeWS.  TNT implements many of the\n    OPEN LOOK interface components required to build the user interface of\n    an application.  It's currently included in OpenWindows.\n\n    The current version of TNT from Sun is 3.1; Release 3 contains some\n    incompatibilities with `tNt' 1.0 and TNT 2.0, but Sun are committed to\n    supporting the API, at least until they stop NeWS support some time\n    later this year and replace it with Display PostScript.  Wail.\n    You might ask what `is committed to' means in this context; the\n    answer seems to be that it means absolutely nothing.\n    Sun currently asserts that it is committed to OLIT, however.\n\n    The C++ User Interface Toolkit (UIT) consists of an object-oriented C++\n    class library layered on top of XView and a tool to generate code from\n    DevGuide 3 GIL files.  The UIT also includes features that simplify\n    event management and the use of PostScript and color.  It is said to be\n    compatible with OpenWindows V2 and V3, and presumably V3.0.1, since the\n    release mentions that it works on Solaris 2.\n    UIT is not an official Sun-supported product but an ongoing project of\n    various people within Sun.  It can be found on export.lcs.mit.edu in\n    the MIT contrib directory as UITV2.tar.Z (use binary mode!).\n\n@ Where does Motif fit in?\n    It doesn't :-).  Motif is an alternative Graphical User Interface that\n    is being developed by OSF.\tIt has a `look and feel' reminiscent of\n    Microsoft Windows and the OS\/2 Presentation Manager.  There are no non-\n    commercial Motif toolkits available, although the Motif source is sold\n    reasonably cheaply by OSF.\tAlthough Motif is currently available on\n    more platforms than OpenWindows, the OPEN LOOK GUI is almost certainly\n    used on many more machines, simply because Sun (and SysVR4) have such a\n    large installed base.\n    Sun's CD\/WARE Volume 2 contains a roadmap for improving Motif\n    applications by converting them to OLIT [:-)]; there are also notes in\n    the `Periodic Table' OLIT demo, $OPENWINHOME\/demo\/olittable.\n\n@ What is MoOLIT?\n    MoOLIT is a version of OLIT from AT&T\/USL that lets users choose between\n    a Motif and an OPEN LOOK UI feel at run-time.  It will be part of System V\n    Release 4.2.\n    Contact: Joanne Newbauer, jo@usl.com, (908) 522-6677\n\n@ What about that Display PostScript thing?\n    Sun and Adobe have agreed that Sun will include the DPS extension to X\n    in the next release of OpenWindows.  DPS is essentially a badly designed\n    hack on top of a slow Level 2 PostScript interpreter intended to give a\n    very small subset of the functionality of NeWS whilst simultaneously\n    being harder to use, as I understand it.  The only real advantage it\n    has over NeWS is that the manual is much smaller, being generally less\n    complete; DPS is also available on more kinds of machine.\n    Performance on our RS\/6000 is not suitable for interactive work;\n    what it will be like on the SPARCStation remains to be seen.\n    Note that whereas X\/NeWS fonts are shared by both subsystems, the DPS\n    extension to X does _not_ make Type 1 PostScript fonts available to\n    ordinary X11 programs.  It is not like ATM on a PC in this regard.\n    (there is at least one third-party version which does make fonts\n    available, however)\n\nSubject: Window Managers -- olwm, olvwm\n\n@ What are olwm and olvwm?\n    They are window managers.  A window manager is the part of the X Window\n    system (e.g. X11) that is responsible for deciding how to lay out windows\n    on the screen, and for managing the user's interaction with the windows.\n\n    Olwm is the standard OPEN LOOK window manager.\n    It's included with all of the OpenWindows (q.v.) implementations, and\n    you can also get the source by ftp, since Sun donated it.\n\n    Olvwm is a version of olwm that manages a `virtual desktop' (hence the\n    `v' in its name).  It shows a little map on the screen, with the\n    currently displayed area represented by a little rectangle.\t You can\n    move around by dragging the rectangle or with the arrow keys.  This\n    lets you run several clients (applications) and move the display around\n    from one to the other.  Olvwm was derived from the OpenWindows 3.0 olwm\n    by Scott Oaks; you need to have XView 3.0 to compile it.\n    Get olvwm from an ftp site such as export.lcs.mit.edu (in the contrib\n    directory; there are three patches).\n\n@ Can I use my favorite window manager with OpenWindows instead of olwm?\n    Yes.  If you use twm, for example, or mwm, you won't be able to use\n    the Pin and Unpin feature of olwm, and you (probably) won't see the\n    footers some windows use to display certain messages.\n\n    If you use twm, you'll want to use the f.delete function to unpin menus\n    and get rid of programs that don't have a `quit' button when not run\n    under olwm.\n    For twm, put this in your $HOME\/.twmrc:\n\tLeftTitleButton \"target\" = f.delete\n    where \"target\" is a 16x16 icon from \/usr\/include\/X11\/bitmaps.\n    Alternatively, try\n\t# Add a menu to each window managed by twm or tvtwm\n\tLeftTitleButton \":menu\" = f.menu \"OL.menu\"\n\n\tmenu \"OL.menu\" {\n\t    \"Quit\"         f.delete\n\t}\n\n    For mwm, you can double-click on the menu icon on the left of the title\n    bar to dismiss a pop-up window (I am told).\n\n    See the manual page for your window manager (twm, etc).\n\nSubject: OpenWindows, Terminals, and Other Displays\n\n@ Can I use olwm and olvwm without OpenWindows or on an X Terminal?\n    The OpenWindows xnews server combines SunView, NeWS (PostScript) and X11.\n    This means that it can run programs compiled for any of those systems.\n    Unfortunately, it means that some OpenWindows programs need either NeWS\n    or SunView support, and thus won't run on an X terminal.  This includes\n    pageview in particular.\n\n    You can use olwm or olvwm (see above) on an X terminal or a non-Open-\n    Windows display, and most OPEN LOOK clients (e.g. OLIT or XView ones)\n    will work perfectly well.  You may find that you get complaints about\n    fonts not being found.  If so, see the Fonts section below.\n    If you are running the window manager built-in to an NCD terminal, you\n    may have problems with input focus; setting *Input: True in the terminal's\n    XDefault file in \/usr\/lib\/X11\/xdm may or may not help.\n\n\nSubject: Configuration Files: Getting started with OpenWindows\n     \n@ What configuration files do I need to know about?\n\n    .xinitrc and .xsessionrc\n\n    The first time you run OpenWindows, a .xinitrc file will be created in\n    your login directory ($HOME).  If it already exists, you might have to\n    edit it somewhat; it's simplest to move it and any other old X11 files\n    you have to another directory, and then merge the old and new files.\n\n    If your site uses xdm, you should use .xsession instead of .xinitrc,\n    since xdm doesn't look at your .xinitrc file.\n\n    .openwin-init, .openwin-menu and .openwin-sys\n\n    These are optional files you can create in your $HOME directory,\n    depending on which version of olwm or olvwm you use.\n    Look in $OPENWINHOME\/lib (normally \/usr\/openwin\/lib) for these files\n    without the leading . and copy any you want to change.  You may need\n    to edit your .xinitrc to get them recognized.  If you are not on an\n    X terminal, you will want to run a console window (such as cmdtool -C,\n    shelltool -C, xterm -C) or Chuck Musciano's \"contool\" program so that\n    system output will be directed there instead of writing over your screen.\n    Note that .openwin-sys is not executed unless you edit .xinitrc.\n\n    .Xdefaults\n\n    You can put X Windows resource specifications in here.  In particular,\n    it is a good idea to include at least:\n\tOpenWindows.FocusLenience:\ttrue\n\t*Input: TRUE\n    These allow non-ICCCM-compliant programs to receive input even if they\n    forget to ask for it.\n\n    Props, the program that runs when you select `properties' from the default\n    root menu under olwm or olvwm, writes your choices into .Xdefaults.\n    Don't put comments in .Xdefaults, since `props' deletes them.\n\n    .startup.ps\n\n    This is the NeWS user profile file, read by OpenWindows (actually xnews)\n    on startup.\t This is documented in the NeWS programming manual, near the\n    back.  The most useful thing to put here is PostScript code to change\n    the keyboard repeat rate, although you must be very careful, since a\n    syntax error in the PostScript means that xnews will either not start up\n    at all or will get broken in strange ways.\tThe NeWS manual gives code\n    that is both incorrect and insufficient.\n    WARNING: things in this file rarely work on both OpenWindows 2 and 3.\n\n    Note that the mouse speed is best set in your .xinitrc with xset m; see\n    the man page for xset (\"man xset\", and \"xset -help\") for more information.\n\n    Here's what $HOME\/.startup.ps  should look like if you want a delay of\n    about a third of a second (300000 microseconds), and a repeat rate of\n    twenty or so keys per second (30000 microseconds between repeats) for\n    OpenWindows 3.  You'll have to experiment a bit because the RepeatTime\n    is the delay between keys sent, and thus doesn't include the time to\n    process each key, which is probably higher on my 4\/110 than on your\n    SuperSPARC 10\/51 GTi injection :-)  Again, this is for OpenWindows 3...\n\n\t% don't want the demos - see p. xxxii of NeWS Toolkit Reference Manual\n\t% \/IncludeDemos? false def\n\n\tUserProfile begin\n\t    \/KeyRepeatThresh 0 300000 timeval storetimeval def\n\t    \/KeyRepeatTime 0 30000 timeval storetimeval def\n\t    % Note: 300000 and 30000 differ greatly...\n\tend\n\n    You must also have a .user.ps file in the same directory, like this:\n\n\t\/NeWS 3 0 findpackage beginpackage\n\t\/TNTCore 3 0 findpackage beginpackage\n\t\/TNT 3 0 findpackage beginpackage\n\n\tClassRepeatKeys pop\t% force repeat.ps to autoload\n\n\tendpackage endpackage endpackage\n\n    If you change these parameters, you can test them without restarting the\n    OpenWindows server like this:\n\t$ psh -i .startup.ps\n\tWelcome to X11\/NeWS Version3\n\t$ psh -i\n\tWelcome to X11\/NeWS Version3\n\t\/classinit ClassRepeatKeys send\n\t%%% now press control-D\n\n    You can also either of these two files (.startup.ps and .user.ps) to make\n    the root window be \"retained\", so that a PostScript drawing on the\n    background won't be erased when you move windows:\n\tframbuffer \/Retained true put\n    will do this.  Note that this may increase the amount of memory used\n    by the NeWS server (xnews) dramatically.\n    \n    See also:\n\tTrouble Shooting: It Won't Let Me Type\n\tTrouble Shooting: Is there an easy way to edit Xdefaults?\n\tEnvironment Variables\n\n@ How can I configure OPEN LOOK for a left-handed mouse and keyboard?\n    You can use xmodmap to change the mouse buttons, but be prepared for one\n    or two occasional surprises.  See also \"man 7 xview\" for a list of\n    keybindings you can change, at least for XView programs.\n\n    With OpenWindows 2.0, you can use defaultsedit to set the mouse mappings\n    and then let SunView handle them.  The status returned by svenv should\n    tell you whether your server is running under SunView or not; put this\n    in your .xinitrc:\n\n    if eval `svenv -env`\n    then\n\txmodmap -e \"pointer = 1 2 3\"\n\tinput_from_defaults\n    else\n\txmodmap -e \"pointer = 3 2 1\"\n    fi\n\n\n@ How can I get the screen to go blank when the system is idle?\n\n    Run screenblank from \/etc\/rc.local if you can; it's a boring but\n    effective screen saver.  See `man screenblank'.\n    Under Solaris 2 you'll need to copy screenblank from an older system, as\n    it's not supplied.  Then add a new file in \/etc\/rc2.d to make the system\n    run screenblank automatically.\n\nSubject: Key Bindings, Cut and Paste\n\n@ How do I cut and paste between XTerm and OpenWindows programs?\n\n    To go from XTerm to textedit (say):\n    * Select the text you want to copy by dragging the SELECT mouse button\n      in xterm\n    * Press COPY in the XTerm (this key is L6, or Meta+c (the O'Reilly\n      XView manual gets this wrong)\n    * Move to the textedit window, and press PASTE (L8 or Meta+v)\n\n    If this doesn't work, see Trouble Shooting: Cut and Paste\n\n   To go the other way, from textedit to XTerm:\n    * Select the text in textedit.  No need to use COPY\n    * Move to the XTerm window and press ADJUST (the middle mouse button).\n    * You can also use the COPY\/CUT and PASTE buttons.\n\n@ COPY\/PASTE is boring.\t What short-cuts are available?\n\n    Quick Copy within textedit, mailtool, etc:\n    * Click SELECT to get a text caret where you want the copied text to go\n    * Press and HOLD DOWN the PASTE (or CUT) button\n    * Select the text you want to copy\/move.  You'll see that it's underlined\n      or crossed out, as appropriate.  (In the jed demo it goes grey)\n    * Let go of the PASTE (or CUT) button.\n    * The text you underlined or crossed out appears at the insert caret.\n\n    Drag and Drop to Move a Selection\n    * Select the text you want to copy or move, by dragging or multiple-\n      clicking the SELECT or ADJUST mouse button\n    * Put the mouse pointer anywhere within the selection\n    * Press and HOLD DOWN down the SELECT mouse button, and move the mouse\n      pointer a little to the right; you'll see the cursor changes to be the\n      first 3 letters of the text (or some other icon).\n    * Still holding SELECT down, move the mouse over the point where you want\n      to drop the text\n    * You may see the mouse pointer change to a rifle-sight or target, to show\n      that it's OK to drop things here\n    * Let go of SELECT, and the text is moved.\tThis works in text fields of\n      dialogue boxes as well as in text subwindows.\n\n    Drag and Drop to Copy a Selection\n    * This is the same as using Drag and Drop to Move a Selection, except that\n      you must hold the CONTROL key down as well as the SELECT mouse button.\n\n@ What are the default key bindings in textedit and elsewhere?\n\n    See the man page for textedit(1) for some of them.\n    In general, the editing\/moving commands go in the opposite direction when\n    shifted - e.g. Ctrl+w deletes a word, and Ctrl+W deletes the word to the\n    right of the insert point.\n\n\tMeta-i - include file\t    Meta-f - find selection (forward\/backward)\n\n\tCtrl-a - start of line\t    Ctrl-< - back word\n\tCtrl-e - end of line\t    Ctrl-> - forward word\n\tCtrl-w - delete word\t    Ctrl-u - delete to start\/END of line\n\tCtrl-Return - move to end\/START of document\n\n    See the O'Reilly XView Reference Manual for a list of some of the default\n    keys; see also the olwm or olvwm manual page.\n\n@ What can I put in my .ttysrc?\t Where is it documented?\n\n    See the manual page for shelltool.\n\nSubject: Applications: Finding Out...\n    Contact SunSoft (or Sun) and ask for the Catalyst OPEN LOOK guide,\n    which lists over 200 pages of applications, and also the _huge_\n    Catalyst listing of products for Suns, updated six-monthly.\n\n    Sun's free CDWare CD\/ROMs each contain demo versions of several popular\n    OPEN LOOK applications.  Often you can simply contact the vendor\n    concerned to have the license upgraded from demo, and receive the full\n    product documentation.\n\n    SunPICS produces a CD\/ROM for NeWSPrint users, Printer's Pallate, which\n    contains NeWSprint drivers for a variety of printers and plotters, as\n    well as 600 scaleable fonts that you can license.\n\n    There is a separate FAQ posting in comp.windows.open-look that lists\n    a number of free and commercial aplications; mail lee@sq.com for a\n    copy, including OPEN LOOK UI Application List in the Subject for a\n    faster reply.\n\nSubject: DeskSet, Mailtool, Calendar Manager, etc.\n\n@ Is there a tty-based interface to cm (Calendar Manager)?\n    Yes, cm_delete, cm_insert and cm_lookup; these all have manual pages.\n    If \"man cm_delete\" doesn't work or gives strange messages, see under\n    Trouble Shooting: Strange Error Messages, below.\n\n@ How can I arrange to have my .signature included in my outgoing mail?\n    The best way is:\n    $ cd\n    $ cp \/usr\/lib\/.textswrc .\n    $ chmod +w .textswrc\n    edit .textswrc (use vi, textedit, or whatever you prefer)\n    add the follwing:\n\tKEY_RIGHT(3)    FILTER\n\tcat ~\/.signature\n    (you might need to change ~ to $HOME)\n\n    Now pressing R3 will insert your .signature file.\n\n\n\nSubject: Fonts\n\n@ Does OpenWindows support Type 1 PostScript fonts?\n    Yes, under either Solaris 2.0 or 2.1 (I'm not sure which).\n    Or, Not Yet, in other words.\n\n    If you have FrameMaker there is a utility to import them, I'm told.\n    The 57 fonts supplied with OpenWindows are fully hinted, though, and\n    comparing them to the Microsoft Windows and Apple TrueType fonts is\n    interesting...  The F3 font format is described in a publication from the\n    Sun OpenFonts group, listed in the Bibliography below.  Documentation on\n    the unbundled version of TypeScaler is also available from Sun OpenFonts.\n\n    You can buy F3 fonts from SunPICS, Monotype, Linotype, URW and probably\n    other major foundries.\n\n    SunPICS' NeWSPrint software supports Type 1 fonts.\n\n@ Improving font rendering time\n    Although the Sun type renderer (TypeScaler) is pretty fast, it's not as\n    fast as loading a bitmap :-).  You can pre-generate bitmap fonts for sizes\n    that you use a lot, and you can also alter and access the font cache\n    parameters.\t If you have a lot of memory you might want to increase the\n    font cache size.\n\t$ psh -i\n\tWelcome to X11\/NeWS Version3 <--- psh will say this at you\n\tcurrentfontmem =\t% type this line ...\n\t300\t% and here's whai my server was using -- 300 Kbytes\n\t1024 setfontmem\n\t% Just to check:\n\tcurrentfontmem =\n\t1024\n    See pp. 328ff of the NeWS 3.0 Programmer's Guide.  You need to say psh -i\n    so that the PostScript packages are loaded - see the psh man page.\n\n@ Making bitmap fonts for faster startup:\n\t$ mkdir $HOME\/myfonts\n\t$ cd $HOME\/myfonts\n\t$ makeafb -20 -M $OPENWINHOME\/lib\/fonts\/Bembo.f3b\n\tCreating Bembo20.afb\n\t$ convertfont -b Bembo20.afb\n\tBembo20.afb->.\/Bembo20.fb\n\tChars parameter greater than number of characters supplied.\n\t$ ls\n\tBembo20.afb\tBembo20.fb\tSynonyms.list\n\t$ bldfamily\n\t* Bembo\t\t       .\/Bembo.ff (Encoding: latin)\n\tcat: .\/Compat.list: No such file or directory\n\t$ xset +fp `pwd`\n\t$ xset fp rehash\n\n    If you want the server to see your new font directory every time,\n    add this directory to your FONTPATH environment variable in one\n    of your start-up files, e.g. .login or .profile.\n\n@ Converting between font formats (convertfont, etc.)\n    You can also use Folio fonts with an X11 server, by converting them to a\n    bitmap (X11 bdf format) first.  Your licence forbids you from using the\n    fonts on another machine, and unless you have NeWSPrint you shouldn't\n    use them for printing.  Having said all that...  you can use makeafb and\n    convertfont to generate bdf files that you can compile with bdftosnf or\n    bdftopcf.\n\n    Use mftobdf (from the SeeTeX distribution) to convert TeX pk fonts to\n    X11 bdf format, which you can then use with either X11 or OenWindows.\n\n    You can also use der Mouse's \"getbdf\" to get bdf fonts from a running\n    X display server -- ftp: larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (132.206.1.1) \/X\/getbdf\n\n@ Xview\/OLIT fonts at 100 dpi\n    There aren't any.  More precisely, the various text fonts, such as\n    Lucida Typewriter Sans, are available at 100 dpi, and in fact are\n    scalable under OpenWindows.\t The glyph fonts are bitmaps, and don't\n    scale very well.\n\nSubject: Trouble Shooting: Strange Error Messages\n\n@ No manual entry for cm_lookup\n\n    If man doesn't seem to find OpenWindows commands, even though you are\n    running OpenWindows, try setting the MANPATH environment variable:\n\tMANPATH=$OPENWINHOME\/share\/man:\/usr\/man; export MANPATH\n    or\n\tsetenv MANPATH $OPENWINHOME\/share\/man:\/usr\/man\n    for csh users.  $OPENWINHOME should be \/usr\/openwin on most systems.\n\n@ window: Window creation failed to get new fd \n@ window: Base frame not passed parent window in environment \n@ Cannot create base frame.  Process aborted. \n\n    These messages all come from SunView programs.  SunView was an\n    earlier windowing system for Suns, and was not networked.  Some of\n    the SunView programs are still around in \/usr\/bin, and have names\n    that are the same as their OpenWindows counterparts.  You almost\n    certainly want to run the programs in $OPENWINHOME instead.\n\n    Set your path so that $OPENWINHOME\/bin (and $OPENWIN\/bin\/xview for\n    OpenWindows 2) come before \/bin (or \/usr\/bin, they're the same), or\n    you'll get the SunView versions of mailtool, cmdtool, shelltool, etc.\n\n@ memory fault - core dumped\n    If you get this from the binder, or if binder vanishes suddenly,\n    get the following patches:\n\t100493-02 Binder\n\t100524-03 Cetables\n\t100626-03 Tooltalk\n\n@ Trouble compiling Xt, Xmu or OLIT programs: _get_wmShellWidgetClass\n \n    If you are using OpenWindows 3.0 (X11R4-based Xt), contact your local\n    Sun office and request the following patches:\n100512-02   4.1.x OpenWindows 3.0 libXt Jumbo patch\n100573-03   4.1.x OpenWindows 3.0 undefined symbols when using shared libXmu\n\n    If you can't install the patch, a workaround is to add \n\t-u get_wmShellWidgetClass -u get_applicationShellWidgetClass\n    on the link (ld or cc ... -o ...) line.  An alternative is to add\n\t-assert nodefinitions\n    to CFLAGS in your Makefile, or even in Imake.tmpl.\n\n\nSubject: Trouble Shooting: It Won't Let Me Type\n\n@ When I try to type into some programs, I just get beeps or nothing happens\n    It is a good idea to include at least:\n\tOpenWindows.FocusLenience:\ttrue\n\t*Input: TRUE\n    in your .Xdefaults file, as these allow non-ICCCM-compliant programs to\n    receive input even if they forget to ask for it.\n    See the next item for editing .Xdefaults\n\nSubject: Trouble Shooting: Cut and Paste not working\n\n@ I can't paste from xterm to XView (including Sun DeskSet) programs\n    Under OpenWindows 2, you need to add the following either to your\n    $HOME\/.Xdefaults file, or to $OPENWINHOME\/lib\/app-defaults\/XTerm instead:\n\n\tXTerm*VT100.Translations: #override \\\n\t\t<Key>L6:select-set(CLIPBOARD)\\n\\\n\t\t<Key>L8:insert-selection(CLIPBOARD)\n  \n    You must not move the mouse between ending the selection and pressing\n    L8 (the Paste key)!\n\n    Under OpenWindows 3, this is already in the app-defaults file, so if it\n    isn't working, check that XFILESEARCHPATH is set to\n\t\/usr\/openwin\/lib\/%T\/%N%S\n    and if it isn't, either set it or copy\/merge the above lines from\n    $OPENWINHOME\/lib\/app-defaults\/XTerm into \/usr\/lib\/X11\/app-defaults\/XTerm.\n    [See also: Environment Variables]\n\n    This version automatically puts each xterm selection onto the clipboard:\n\tXTerm*VT100.translations: #override\\n\\\n\t    ~Ctrl ~Meta<Btn2Up>: insert-selection(PRIMARY,CUT_BUFFER0)\\n\\\n\t    ~Ctrl ~Meta<BtnUp>: select-end(PRIMARY,CUT_BUFFER0,CLIPBOARD)\\n\\\n\t    <KeyPress>L8: insert-selection(CLIPBOARD)\n    [Note: be sure that the \\n\\ is at the very end of the line, there must\n     be no following spaces, and any + or | signs showing that this FAQ file\n     was altered must also be removed!]\n\n    If you are using X11R5, you may find that adding the lines\n<Key>L10: start-extend() select-end(PRIMARY, CLIPBOARD, CUT_BUFFER0)\\n\\\n       <KeyRelease>L10: kill-selection() \\n\n    before the <KeyPress>L8 line will make L10 (CUT) work as a cut key!\n\n    If you alter $HOME\/.Xdefaults instead, you must use what X calls a\n    `more specific' resource name:\n\txterm.vt100.translations\n    will do.\n\n@ I can't paste from XView (including Sun DeskSet) programs to xterm\n\n    If you don't have the Sun L keys on the left of your keyboard, you can\n    use Meta-x, Meta-c and Meta-v for cut, coy and paste respectively.\n    You can change the keys by adding the following two lines to\n    your .Xdefaults file, edited as you wish (the values shown here are the\n    defaults):\n\n\tOpenwindows.KeyboardCommand.Copy: c+Meta,L6\n\tOpenWindows.KeyboardCommand.Paste\", \"v+Meta,L8\n    \n    Lists of resources are in the manual page for xview, and also in the\n    thinnish blue book `Companion to Volume 7, XView Reference Manual' from\n    O'Reilly, and also in the olwm and olvwm manual pages.\n\n@ I always get the same piece of text when I press PASTE (L8, Meta+v)\n    Remove the file \/tmp\/textsw_shelf and see if that helps; see also the\n    next item.\n\n@ Cut Copy and Paste don't work at all (OpenWindows only)\n    Oh dear.  Use ps -xuaww | grep xv  to check that sv_xv_sel_svc is running\n    and that either you or root started it, depending on whether you started\n    OpenWindows with \"openwin\" or by logging in through xdm.\n    If not, start it.  If it dies, check that there is no \/tmp\/.sv_xv_sel_svc\n    before restarting it - you may need to be root to remove it, or you can\n    reboot your workstation.\n    Check that there is space in \/tmp (use \"df \/tmp\"), and also see if there\n    are a lot of files there with names like \/tmp\/tty.txt.a01246; if there are\n    several hundred of them, cut and paste may take so long that it times out.\n\n    Quit any deskset tools such as mailtool, filemgr and cm (calendar), start\n    a terminal emulator and remove and \/tmp\/tty.txt* and \/tmp\/Text* files\n    that are still there.  It's simplest to quit openwin and start it again\n    after doing that, if cut and paste was broken, but if it starts working\n    again you can just carry on.  Note that files in \/tmp not owned by you\n    might be in use by another worker comrade, so don't remove those without\n    checking first!\n\nSubject: Trouble Shooting: Not authorized to use display\n\n    If you get error messages that look like\n\tXlib:  connection to \":0.0\" refused by server\n\tXlib:  Internal error during connection authorization check\n\tError: Can't Open display\n    try, on the machine running OpenWindows or X11,\n\txhost +machine\n    where \"machine\" is the computer on which you ran the command that failed.\n    If you want to let other users run programs on the same machine as you,\n    using your display, you will have to type the bizarre-looking\n\txhost +`hostname`\n    (or xhost +happyboy, if happyboy is the name of your workstation).\n    This lets ANY user on `happyboy' access your display.\n\n    With OpenWindows 3.0 you can also use xauth, and the Programmer's Guide \n    describes how to do this in Chapter 8, p. 101.  This is more secure.\n    Also check the man page for fbtab(5) to stop other users accessing the\n    framebuffer directly!\n\n    Also note that there is a Sun patch for OpenWindows 3.0 under SunOS 4.1.1\n    to fix a serious security problem.  It is available through your local\n    Sun Answer Center as well as through anonymous ftp from ftp.uu.net\n    [192.48.96.2] system in \/sun-dist:\n    Fix                     PatchID        Filename            Checksum\n    loadmodule              1076118        100448-01.tar.Z     04354  5\n\n\n    On an X Terminal, there may be a setup menu that lets you change or\n    disable the list of hosts that can access the display.\n\n    If you start getting this message after you've been logged in overnight,\n    there might be a cron job that's removing the Unix sockets in \/tmp\n    that are used to communicate with the server when $DISPLAY doesn't have\n    a hostname before the :, or is empty.  Have the system administrator\n    change the cron script to skip sockets.\n\nSubject: Trouble Shooting: other common problems\n\n@ I get console error messages on my screen and they don't go away (Sun 3 or 4)\n    If \"refresh\" makes the messages vanish, but new ones come along later,\n\tyou need to run \"xterm -C\" from your .xinitrc, or start one up in\n\tthe background and then  choose Save Workspace from the\n\tWorkspace->Utilities menu.  Better still, pick up \"contool\" and run\n\tthat.  Get it from export.lcs.mit.edu in the contrib directory.  It\n\twill monitor the console and open, flash its icon or beep when a\n\tmessage appears; it's very easy to configure.\n\n    If \"refresh\" from the Workspace->Utilities menu doesn't make the messages,\n    go away...\n\ta Sun with a cg4 frame buffer has two screens - you can move the\n\tmouse off the right-hand (by default) edge of the screen and onto\n\ta whole new (but monochrome) display, called \":0.1\".  See the man.\n\tpage for openwin; I have a shell script that checks for this and,\n\tif there's a \/dev\/cgfour0, does\n\t\topenwin -dev \/dev\/cgfour0 -dev \/dev\/bwtwo0\n\tIf you are running X11 or OpenWindows 2, you might need to add this\n\tto your .xinitrc or other startup file:\n\t(\n\t    eval `svenv -display unix:0.1 -env`\n\t    olvwm -display unix:0.1\n\t) &\n\tLater releases of olwm and olvwm do this automatically.\n\tYou can also run switcher -e 0 to get rid of the messages.  Also, see\n\tthe note about contool, above.\n\n@ Is there an easy way of editing .Xdefaults?\n    Use `props', which appears in the default root menu as `properties'.\n    This starts `props', a property editor which will re-write your\n    .Xdefaults after removing comments.  It then applies any changes.\n    Keep comments by using \"comment.\" instead of \"!\", for example,\n\tcomment.*.font: Palatino-Italic-37\n\n@ How do I get the File manager to use emacs instead of textedit?\n    set the default editor to\n\tsh -c \"exec emacs -font lucidasanstypewriter-18 \\\"$FILE\\\"\"\n    (you can change the font if you prefer a smaller one)\n\n@ How do I run OpenWindows in inverse video?\n    This tends not to work under OpenWindows 2.\t With OpwnWindows 3.0,\n    there are various ways, including using -bg and -fg options.  If you're\n    using OpenWindows 2 on a Sun 3 , probably the best you can do (short of\n    upgrading the workstation to a SPARC!) is to use xterm instead of cmdtool.\n\n@ Why don't flat check-boxes work?\n    A known bug may make Guide's output dump core if you use these.\n    A workaround is to edit the Guide output, as it's only Guide's output\n    that's broken, not the actual check-box code.\n    This applies only to versions of DevGuide before Devguide 3.0.  If you're\n    still using an ancient DevGuide, you should upgrade as soon as possible;\n    the new one is fantastic!\n\n@ When I leave OpenWindows, my screen goes blank or my mouse cursor stays\n  on the screen.\n    Try running clear_colormap; if this helps, put it as the last line in\n    the shell script you use to start OpenWindows (e.g. `openwin').\n\n@ When I use snapshot, the system crashes, or the server hangs, or something.\n    This was a bug related to some systems only.  The only work-round was to\n    use some other screen dump program, such as xwd, xv 2.21 or xgrabsc.\n    \n@ Why have some of my function keys stopped working?\n    Keys F11 and F12 changed from SunF36 and SunF37 to SunXK_F36 and SunXK_F37\n    respectively in OpenWindows 3.  Applications must be recompiled, or you\n    might be able to use xmodmap or the public domain xkeycaps program to\n    change your keyboard layout back again.\n\n@ When I type shelltool or cmdtool or textedit, I get the Sunview version\n    See under \"Trouble Shooting: Strange Error Messages\" below.\n\n    (see also next item)\n\n@ Mixing X11 and OpenWindows\n    (see also next item)\n\n    Note that OpenWindows 3.0 includes the X11R4 core distribution (to patch\n    level 18), but not the contrib directory.  These notes apply to\n    OpenWindows 2.0, although you could also the do same sort of thing with\n    OpenWindows 3.0 and X11R5.\n\n    Install the X11 libraries in \/usr\/lib\/X11.\tYou can intermix OpenWindows\n    and X11R4 or X11R5, they're all compatible in this respect.\n    Put the X11 binaries in (for example) \/usr\/bin\/X11.\n\n    Put \/usr\/bin\/X11 last in your PATH, so that you get OpenWindows versions\n    of programs instead of X11 ones where appropriate, although this is a\n    matter of preference.  In any event, put the OpenWindows bin directory\n    first -- see the preceding item for more details on that.  If you have\n    \/bin (or \/usr\/bin, they're the same directory on SunOS) earlier in\n    your PATH than $OPENWINHOME\/bin\/xview, you'll get SunView programs instead\n    of OpenWindows ones!\n\n    Set LD_LIBRARY_PATH so that \/usr\/openwin\/lib is last, after the X11\n    library directory.\tThis doesn't matter with OpenWindows 3.0, but with\n    older versions you'll get error messages from X11 programs if you don't\n    do this.  The messages are generally harmless (see next item), although\n    xdm core dumps if this isn't right.\n\n    Set OPENWINHOME to the directory containing OpenWindows if it isn't\n    \/usr\/openwin.\n\n    See Also:\n\tEnvironment Variables (especially XFILESEARCHPATH).\n\n@ I get error messages on my screen about ld.so: libX11.so.4 not found\n    set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to be \/usr\/openwin.  If you also use X11, use\n\t     \/usr\/lib:\/usr\/5lib:\/usr\/openwin\/lib\n    If you put this in a shell script or your .profile, use\n    ${OPENWINHOME-\/usr\/openwin}\/lib instead of \/usr\/openwin; this is for\n    \/bin\/sh; for csh it is different.\n\n@ I launch my filemgr and I get ld.so:map heap error (9) at \/dev\/zero\n    Your system needs to be patched.  Look in $OPENWINHOME\/lib\/OSpatches\n    and install the patch.\n\n@ Why doesn't AnswerBook run for me?\n    You must be running OpenWindows to use AnswerBook.\tIt won't run under\n    X11 (on an X terminal or on anything else) because it uses NeWS to draw\n    the PostScript text and pictures.\n    If you are using OpenWindows 3.0, you need to use the OpenWindows 3.0\n    compatible navigator; it's called .navigator.ow3 on the AnswerBook CD\/ROM.\n    If all AnswerBook users are using OpenWindows 3.0, you can replace\n    navigator wih .navigator.ow3 altogether (rename the old one first to\n    satisfy your sense of paranoia!)\n    The navigator.ow3 binary is also on CD\/Ware Vol 2.\n    Note that the data files are in PostScript, so you can look at them with\n    a PostSript viewer (q.v.).\n\n@ Why aren't there any fish in realxfishdb?\n    A fixed version of realxfishdb is available by ftp from\n    ftp.eng.auburn.edu [131.204.10.91] as \/pub\/realxfishdb.Z\n\n@ Why is the Properties choice disabled in the Window menu?\n    It isn't implemented yet.  Many programs do respond to the Properties\n    Key (L3), though, or have a pop-up menu with Properties on it.\n\n@ File completion in the C-shell is broken in cmdtool\n    Sadly true, but use shelltool or xterm instead and it's fine.  It also\n    works if you run command tool on a remote machine.\n    Fixed in OpenWindows 3.0.1 shipped with Solaris 2.\n\n@ When I run OLIT programs, some of the widgets are red!\n    Release 3 of OLIT added mouseless operation; action widgets can be\n    selected via the keyboard.  The currently selected item is highlighted\n    in red (the `Red Stain') to show that it has the input focus.\n    To disable it in most places, add this to your $HOME\/.Xdefaults file:\n\t*traversalOn: off\n\t*TextEdit.traversalOn: on\n\t*TextField.traversalOn: on\n    You can change the color using (for example)\n\t*InputFocusColor: grey50\n\t*input*FocusColor: green\n\t*List*inputFocusColor: <your background color>\n    See the man page resources(3w), at the start of the OLIT 3 Widget Set\n    Reference Manual included in the OpenWindows 3 programmer documentation.\n    Meanwhile contact your distributor and ask for patch id 100451-30, the\n    OLIT\/3.0 CTE Jumbo Patch.\n\n@ When I run several programs, the colors on the screen all change when\n  I move into a different window! (\"colormap flashing\")\n    \n    This is becasue most hardware can only display a few colors at a time.\n    However, you can minimise the effect with the following procedure:\n    *  Start all the applications with colors that you wish to reserve.\n    *  Run\n\tcmap_compact save\n       to create the .owcolors file\n    *  Put the line\n\tcmap_compact init\n       near the start of your start-up file (.xinitrc)\n    *  Exit and then restart the window system.\n    *  cmap_compact init will push those colors .owcolors to the end of\n\tthe colormap and reserves them.\n\n    Also note that control-L2 locks the colors of the current window, and\n    Control-L4 unlocks them -- this is described in the olwm manual page.\n\n@ pageiew uses the wrong colors, or makes the colormap flash (see above):\n    This problem was reported by people for some reason running the Motif\n    window manager (mwm) with OpenWindows.\n    Try running pageview like this:\n\t$OPENWINHOME\/bin\/reservecolors -svmono\n\t$OPENWINHOME\/bin\/pageview\n\t$OPENWINHOME\/bin\/reservecolors -discard\n\n@ XDM breaks things\n    Command tool doesn't like being run without a Unix `controlling terminal'.\n    Use \/etc\/setsid to start your command tools and all will be well.\n    SunView applications may need to be run with svenv, as in\n\tsvenv -exec \/usr\/bin\/traffic\n    because xdm won't set the necessary environment variables.\n    Note that the MIT xdm starts up the X server as root, which is a security\n    hole for OpenWindows; use the OpenWindows 3.0 xdm or be aware that your\n    users can access files and start Unix processes ass root...\n\n@ Function keys 11 and 12 stopped working\n    In OpenWindows 3.0, the X11 names (\"keysyms\") for these keys was changed\n    to SunXK_F36 and SunXK_F37.\t Code which uses them should be recompiled,\n    or you might be able to get away with\n\txmodmap -e 'keysym SunXK_F36 = SunF36'\n\nSubject: Trouble Shooting: XView problems\n    This section is here only until an XView FAQ appears, which has been\n    promised, but hasn't reached here.\tNote that there is also a usenet\n    newsgroup, alt.toolkits.xview, although it doesn't sem to have very\n    wide distribution and has triffic of the order of one or two articles\n    per month.\tYou should also look at the FAQ in comp.windows.x.\n\n@ how do I set the font of individual Scrolling List items?\n    PANEL_LIST_FONT takes an int row_number and an Xv_opaque font_handle.\n    PANEL_LIST_FONTS take a NULL terminated list of Xv_opaque font_handles.\n    There is no easy way to make an entire list fixed width font.\n    You have to make sure that you always specify PANEL_LIST_FONT when you\n    insert a new row into that list, or write a convenience function\n    insert_row(list, row, string) that hides the nasty bits.\n\n@ how do I keep an XView pop-up window displayed after a button is pressed?\n    In the button callback, do\n        xv_set(button, PANEL_NOTIFY_STATUS, XV_ERROR, NULL);\n    This will keep the window visible.\n    You might also need to investigate the MENU_NOTIFY_STATUS attribute.\n\n@ how do I make an XView button look pressed?\n    call panel_begin_preview() and panel_cancel_preview(); these are\n    documented in -- er -- the XView 3 source...\n\n@ OpenWindows 3 imake doesn't work properly\n    Here is Greg Earle's patch, to be applied in $OPENWINHOME; note that you\n    should edit lib\/config\/sun.cf afterwards to get OSName and\n    OSMinorVersion right (MinorVersion is 1 in SunOS 4.1.2, for example).\n    I have edited the patch a little, so any bugs are mine [lee@sq.com] :-)\n \n*** bin\/xmkmf.orig\tWed Sep 18 07:02:02 1991\n--- bin\/xmkmf\tTue Aug  6 00:39:20 1991\n***************\n*** 30,34 ****\n  \n  elif [ -n \"$OPENWINHOME\" ]; then\n! \targs=\"-DUseInstalled $OPENWINHOME\/lib\/config\"\n  \n  else\n--- 30,34 ----\n  \n  elif [ -n \"$OPENWINHOME\" ]; then\n! \targs=\"-I$OPENWINHOME\/lib\/config -DUseInstalled -DXCOMM='\/**\/#'\"\n  \n  else\n*** lib\/config\/site.def.orig\tWed Sep 18 01:26:19 1991\n--- lib\/config\/site.def\tTue Aug  6 00:44:37 1991\n***************\n*** 0 ****\n--- 1,7 ----\n+ #define BinDir $(OPENWINHOME)\/bin\n+ #define LibDir $(OPENWINHOME)\/lib\n+ #define IncRoot $(OPENWINHOME)\/share\/include\n+ #define InstallNonExecFile(file,dest)\t\t\t\t\t@@\\\n+ install:: file\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t@@\\\n+ \t$(INSTALL) -c $(INSTDATFLAGS) file dest\n+ #define NullParameter\n\n[Note: the patch is new, but I have not marked each line with a \"+\" -- Liam]\n\nSubject: Environment Variables\n\n    Environment variables, and plausible values to use -- this list doesn't\n    take into account any local changes that you might have made, of course.\n    This list is for OpenWindows 3.0 -- differences for OpenWindows 2.0 are\n    marked, and I've added some comments for users of X11R4 and X11R5, too.\n\n    DISPLAY  The name of the X Windows Display to use\n\t:0.0 (on the local machine, the one actually running X11 or xnews)\n\t:0.1 (on some machines for a second, monochrome screen)\n\tmachine-running-unix:0.0 (on other machines)\n\t(You may need to do \"xhost +other-machine\" to let programs on other\n\tmachines use your display; see also under Trouble Shooting, and see\n\tthe section on xauth in the OpenWindows Version 3 Programmer's Guide,\n\tpp. 101ff)\n\tSee also: console messages, under Trouble Shooting\n    FONTPATH  Where xnews searches for fonts\n\t\/usr\/openwin\/lib\/fonts\n\t(you can also use \"xset fp+ dir\" to add a directory to the font path,\n\tbut you may have to do \"xset fp rehash\" afterwards.  This is fine\n\tunder OpenWindows, but many X11 servers have font problems)\n    HELPPATH  Where XView looks when you press the Help key (or F1)\n\t\/usr\/openwin\/lib\/locale:\/usr\/openwin\/lib\/help\n\t(On SunOS 4.0.*, or with OpenWindows 2.0, omit the first entry, which\n\tis for sites using a local other than \"C\" or \"USA\").\n    LD_LIBRARY_PATH   Where to look to find shared C libraries\n\t\/usr\/lib:\/usr\/5lib:\/usr\/openwin\/lib:\/usr\/CC\/`arch`\n\t(the \/usr\/CC\/`arch`\/lib entry is only needed if you use C++ programs)\n    OPENWINHOME\t Where OpenWindows lives\n\t\/usr\/openwin  \n    KEYBOARD, MOUSE -- serial devices to use instead of the console\n\t(don't set these for normal use; \/dev\/kbd and \/dev\/mouse)\n    PATH  Where the Shell searches for programs to run\n\t$(OPENWINHOME)\/bin:$(OPENWINHOME)\/bin\/xview:\/usr\/local\/bin:.\\\n\t$HOME\/bin.`arch`:\/usr\/ucb:\/usr\/bin:\/usr\/bin\/X11:\/usr\/hosts:\\\n\t(you will certainly want to change this example!  There is no\n\t$(OPENWINHOME)\/bin\/xview in OpenWindows 3.0)\n    XFILESEARCHPATH  Where programs look for app-defaults files\n\t\/usr\/openwin\/lib\/%T\/%N%S\n        (This is set automatically by \"openwin\" in OpenWindows 3.0)\n        You might want to use \/usr\/lib\/X11\/%T\/%N%S, or perhaps both,\n        separated with a :, for example (for sh users)\n            XFILESEARCHPATH=$OPENWINHOME\/lib\/%T\/%N%S:\/usr\/lib\/X11\/%T\/%N%S\n\t    export XFILESEARCHPATH\n\tIf you use X11R5, you might instead want\n\t    \/usr\/lib\/X11\/%L\/%T\/%N%C%S:\n\t    \/usr\/lib\/X11\/%l\/%T\/%N%C%S:\n\t    \/usr\/lib\/X11\/%T\/%N%C%S:\n\t    \/usr\/lib\/X11\/%L\/%T\/%N%S:\n\t    \/usr\/lib\/X11\/%l\/%T\/%N%S:\n\t    \/usr\/lib\/X11\/%T\/%N%S:\n\t    $OPENWINHOME\/lib\/%T\/%N%S\n\t(put all this on one line, though, with no spaces!)\n\n\tTogether with the following in lib\/Xinitrc\n\txrdb -merge <<'END_XRDB'\n\t   *customization:\n\tEND_XRDB\n\n\txrdb -merge <<'END_XRDB'\n\t#ifdef COLOR\n\t   *customization:  -color\n\t#endif\n\tEND_XRDB\n\n\tyou automatically get a color oclock, editres, bitmap, xcalc, and\n\txlogo since they use the \"*customization\" resource appearing as %C in\n\tthe XFILESEARCHPATH. (see oclock (n))\n\taccording to Rainer Sinkwitz <sinkwitz@ifi.unizh.ch>.\n\n\nSubject: Where Can I get It? Ftp, implementations, etc...\n\n    XView 3.0 is available by anonymous ftp from export.lcs.mit.edu and\n    elsewhere.\n\n    MoOLIT can be bought from AT&T in source form.\n\n    OpenWindows can be obtained from Sun, or you can get the source from\n    Interactive Systems Inc.  It is also included in some vendors' System V\n    Release 4 implementations, although that's not always the latest version.\n    The current release of OpenWindows from Sun for supported architectures\n    is 3.0; for the Sun 3 series it is frozen at OpenWindows 2.0.\n    Note that Sun includes OpenWindows with SunOS, and it is also included as\n    the windowing system for Solaris.\n\n    There are said (by Sun) to be over 35 ports of OpenWindows either\n    available now or in progress.  Unfortunately, none of them seem to\n    be available from anywhere.  Contact anthony@ovi.com for more information.\n\n\nSubject: Bibliography: books, manuals, journals, papers, beer-mats\n\n    The OPEN LOOK (tm) Graphical Interface is documented in two books:\n\tSun Microsystems Inc., `OPEN LOOK Graphical User Interface Application\n\tStyle Guidelines', Addison Wesley, 1989\n    and\n\tSun Microsystems Inc., `OPEN LOOK Graphical User Interface Functional\n\tSpecification', Addison Wesley\n\n    The Main documentation for the X Window system comes from\n    O'Reilly & Associates in about nine or ten volumes.\n    The most useful for OPEN LOOK users are:\n\tVolume 1: XLib Programming Manual\n\tVolume 2: XLib Reference Manual\n\tVolume 3: X Window System User's Guide\n\t    (An OPEN LOOK edition of Volume 3 should appear later this year)\n\tVolume 7: XView Programmer's Manual [Dan Heller]\n\t    [make sure you get the 3rd edition for XView 3.0]\n\tCompanion to Volume 7: XView Reference Manual [Ed. Thomas Van Raalte]\n\n\tThe Companion to Volume 7 is an expanded version of the Attribute\n\tSummary from the previous edition of the XView Programming Manual,\n\ttogether with other reference information, so that in practice you\n\thave to buy both books.\n\n\tO'Reilly also have a thinnish orange book on the differences between\n\tX11R4 and RX115.\n\n\tOLIT programmers will also want the Xt books - volumes 4 and 5.\n\tThere is a new big fat green Vol 5 updated for X11R5.\n\n\tA journal, The X Resource, may also be of interest.\n\n\tO'Reilly & Associates, 103 Morris Street, Suita A, Sebastopol, CA 95472\n\t+1 707 829-0515, or, in the USA and Canada only, 1-800-998-9938\n\tFax: +1 707-829-0104.\n\tEmail nuts@ora.com or uunet!ora!nuts.\n\tFor other distributors: mail, FAX, or call +1 707-829-0515.\n\n    Some of the O'Reilly examples are available fro ftp from\n    export.lcs.mit.edu in the contrib\/OReilly directory.\n\n    The System V Release 4 Documentation from Prentice Hall may also include\n    a section on OpenWindows.\n\n    David Miller describes programming with OLIT in his\n\t`An OPEN LOOK At Unix' (M&T press).\n    \n    Nabajyoti Brkakati gives an excellent introduction to X and to OLIT\n    programming, as well as setting up and using X and OpenWindows, in:\n\t`Unix[R] Desktop Guide to OPEN LOOK'\n\tSAMS, 1992  ISBN 0-672-30023-0\n\tYou can get the examples from this book as\n\t    export.lcs.mit.edu:contrib\/naba-olguide-examples.tar.Z\n\n    Also about using OLIT, and Xt in particular:\n\tThe X Window System: Programming and Applications with Xt,\n\tOPEN LOOK Edition,\n\tDoug Young and John Pew, Prentice Hall, 1992,\n\tISBN 0-13-982992-X\n    There are also HP Widgets and Motif (ugh) versions of this book.\n    The example source code in this book can be obtained by ftp from\n    export.lcs.mit.edu, file \"contrib\/young.pew.olit.Z\".\n\n    There is an introduction to XView in\n\t`Writing Applications For Sun Systems', Vol 1, `A Guide for\n\tMacintosh(R) Programmers' (Sun Microsystems, pub. Addison Wesley)\n    \n    To learn more about the NeWS and PostScript languages, see\n\n\tThe NeWS Book, Springer Verlag, 1989 (sadly, a little out of date)\n\n\tPostScript Language Reference Manual, Second Edition,\n\tAdobe Systems Inc., Addison Wesley, 1990 [\"the Red Book\"]\n\t    Note that OpenWindows 3 is a level 1 PostScript implementation,\n\t    with certain Level 2 features (such as Composite Fonts) to some\n\t    degree.\n\t\n\tPostScript Language Tutorial and Cookbook,\n\tAdobe Systems Inc., Addison Wesley, 1985 [\"The blue book\"]\n    \n    There's at least one book on using Solaris (i.e. SunOS).\n\n    Sun also supplies a large amount of documentation with OpenWindows,\n    although you may have to order it separately.  Here's what I have; they\n    are each a little over 21 cm square (wider than A4 paper), and vary from\n    about 1 cm to about 3cm thick.  They say `User's Guide' or `Programmer's\n    Guide' on the front.  The User manuals have a red stripe on the bottom,\n    and the Programmer ones have a green stripe.\n\n    800-6006-10 OpenWindows Version 3 Release Manual\n    800-6029-10 OpenWindows Version 3 Installation and Start-Up Guide\n    800-6231-10 OpenWindows Version 3 DeskSet Reference Guide\n    800-6618-10 OpenWindows Version 3 User's Guide\n    800-6323-10 Desktop Integration Guide [also available in bookstores?]\n    800-6027-10 Programmer's Guide\n    800-6005-10 OpenWindows Version 3 Reference Manual [the man pages]\n    800-6319-10 The NeWS Toolkit 3.0 Reference Manual\n    800-6736-10 NeWS 3.0 Programming Guide\n    800-6055-10 OLIT 3.0 Widget Set Reference Manual\n    800-6198-10 XView 3.0 Reference Manual: Converting SunView Applications\n\n    800-6854-10 F3 Font Format Specification [order separately]\n\n    There are also some other sets of documentation, including the TypeScaler\n    documentation from the OpenFonts group, for example.  There doesn't seem\n    to be a complete list anywhere.\n\n    ??????????? ToolTalk 1.0 Setup and Administration Guide (SunSoft, 1991)\n    800-6093-10 ToolTalk 1.0 Programmer's Guide (SunSoft, 1991)\n    There might be documentation about the Link Manager somewhere, too.\n\n    AT&T includes several large thorny bushes' worth of paper with OLIT.\n\n    Sun's AnswerBook CD\/ROM contains a lot of the above documentation,\n    including some of the O'Reilly books (not the XView 3 Volume 7, though).\n\n    Volume 8 of the O'Reilly series is about X Administration, and mentions\n    OpenWindows, although it is primarily aimed at X11R5.\n\n    Several other books are in the works...\n\n\nSubject: Getting this File, Revision History, Recent Changes\n\n    Mail lee@sq.com to ask for it.  Douglas N. Arnold (dna@math.psu.edu)\n    keeps an up-to-date copy on ftp.math.psu.edu (currently 146.186.131.129)\n    in the file ~ftp\/pub\/FAQ\/open-look.\n    The net.answers archives and servers may or may not know about this file,\n    since they've just changed hands and this file was previously in one\n    archive but not the other.\n\n    $Id: open-look.faq,v 1.48 93\/05\/09 18:03:13 lee Exp $\n\n\nAcknowledgements:\n    Andrei Arkhipov <andr@elvis.sovusa.com> (Feb\/binder patch)\n    Douglas N Arnold <dna@math.psu.edu> (Feb\/various changes)\n    Ian Darwin <ian@sq.com>\n    Christopher Davis <ckd@eff.org>\n    Paul Eggert <eggert@bi.twinsun.com> (Feb\/screenblank on Solaris 2.1)\n    R.Stewart Ellis <elliss@frith.egr.msu.edu> (Feb\/-assert nodefinitions)\n    Jeff Fleck <jefff@meaddata.com> (Feb\/the colormap stuff)\n    Rick Heli <Rick.Heli@Eng.Sun.CO> (Feb\/including .signature)\n    Nicholas Hounsome <nh@cbnewsg.cb.att.com> (Feb\/Xt\/OLIT cc workaround)\n    Larry Matthias <matthias@artos.larc.nasa.gov> (Feb\/NeWS colormap flashing)\n    John B. Melby <melby%yk.fujitsu.co.jp@fai.com> (Feb\/South Paws)\n    Christian Sebeke <sebeke@frodo.lfi.uni-hannover.de> (Feb\/Xt jumbo patch)\n    Kevin W. Thomas <kwthomas@nsslsun.nssl.uoknor.edu> (Mar\/olvwm patches)\n    Larry W. Virden <lvirden@cas.org> (Mar\/various comments)\n\n    And many others...\tYou get deleted from this list after a while.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Lisa Rowlands, on the Wed, 21 Apr 1993 10:13:31 +0000 wibbled:\n: Can anyone recommend a good place for reasonably priced bike paint jobs, preferably but not essentially in the London area. \n\n: Thanks \n\n: Lisa Rowlands\n: -- \n: Alex Technologies Ltd\t\tCP House\n: \t\t\t\t97-107 Uxbridge Road\n: Tel: \t+44 (0)81 566 2307\tEaling\n: Fax: \t+44 (0)81 566 2308\tLONDON\n: email:\tlisa@alex.com\t\tW5 5LT\n\n\nLisa,\n\nTry Pip on 081 590 8045.  She does wonderful things with paint...\nI've seen her work and it's good.\n\nBest of luck.\n\n--\n\nNick (the well connected Biker)   DoD 1069   Concise Oxford   Boring paint job\n\nM'Lud.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Hi there\n\n(I posted this to comp.windows.x.intrinsics but got no response, so I'm posting\nhere.)\n\nI'm wanting to connect a digitiser made for PCs into my workstation (an HP 720).\nIt is my understanding the X windows can understand a variety of input devices\nincluding digitiser tablets.  However, this digitiser makes use of the serial\nport, so there would seem to be a need to have a special device driver.\n\nThe HP manual pages say that the HP X server will accept X input from\ndevices listed in the \/usr\/lib\/X11\/X*devices file (* = display number).\nI shouldn't think I would be able to simply insert \/dev\/rs232c as an input\ndevice in this file and expect a digitiser to work.  But maybe I'm wrong.  Am I?\n\nWhat I would like to know is: does anybody out there have a digitiser connected\nto their workstation for use as a pointer for X (rather than just as input to a\nspecific X application)?  If so, what were the steps required for installation?\nDid you need a special device driver?  Did the manufacturer supply it?  Are\nthere generic public domain device drivers around?  (I understand that\ndigitisers generally use only a couple of standard formats.)\n\nAny help would be greatly appreciated.\n\nCheers\n- Vaughan\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n\nHe's mistaken. They exist, the semiconductor is silicon carbide, and they\nare inefficient and expensive. The bandgap is around 2.7 ev.\n\n\nThe ones I have are clear plastic. Pray tell, what would make a \"typical\"\nLED emit blue light?\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nFor starters, they could have gone on waiting and negotiating.  The Davidians\nweren't going anywhere, and their supplies had to be limited.  Large, perhaps,\nbut limited.  If they had simply fired the compound by themselves without\ngov't tanks smashing down their walls, then at least the gov't would not be\nguilty of having _again_ used an inappropriate level of force, and would have\nbeen able to use the meantime to continue to pressure and negotiate.  No, they\nwould not have looked good on the news in six months or a year.  But they sure\nas hell don't look very good now.\n\nLarry Smith (smith@ctron.com)  No, I don't speak for Cabletron.  Need you ask?","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"You're confused.  You are talking about KIRILIAN photography.\n\nBill is talking KRILLEAN photography.\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"and\n\nMentioning that Turkic people are wide-spread means desiring a Turkish empire?\nIs that the logical thing to conclude from a statement like that? \nTo me it just says that Turkey may have economical benefits from that\nif she can be competitive enough. No more than that. But of course\nyou have the freedom of extrapolating as you wish from any statement.\n\nOne question: In what context did Ozal use the words you are quoting?\nCan you give the whole speech. \n\n--\nTankut Atan\ntankut@iastate.edu","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":": |> : |> None of this changes the fact that MSW3.1 is objectively inferior to its\n: |> : |> competition.\n: |> \n: |> : Do you mean that MSW3.1 is objectively inferior in _some_ respects (which\n: |> : is trivially true), that it is objectively inferior in _all_ respecets\n: |> : (which is trivially false) or do you mean something else? What criteria\n: |> : have you chosen for your objective assesment? Are you sure that these\n: |> : criteria are themselves objective?\n: |> \n: |> I believe that enough is inferior to make it overall as a product\n: |> inferior to its competition-- Apple System 7, OS\/2 2.0, NeXTStep 3.0,\n: |>                               UNIX\/Xwindows (pick your favorite flavor).\n\n: In other words, it is your *opinion* that MSW3.1 is inferior to its\n: competition.  That's not the same as MSW3.1 being objectively inferior.\n\nNo.  It is technically inferior to the OS\/GUIs that I listed.  I have already\ndescribed why.  To say briefly:\n\nSystem 7 --easier to learn and use.  There have been independent studies to \n           that effect.\nOS\/2     --Can run MSW applications and has more stable multitasking.\nNeXTSTep --easier to learn, use, and program. More stable multitasking\nUNIX\/X   --As easy to learn and use.  More stable multitasking.\n\nWith the prpoer setup, all of these will exchange data with MSW machines as\nwell as MSW machines will amongst themselves, so interoperability is not\nan issue.\n\nBy this criterion, it is inferior.  If you have another, then perhaps I am\nincorrect.  Do you pick up the glove?","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nAnd done in SECRET ... :-)\n\nDid anybody notice it is the TREASURY DEPT (The FBI and BATF, in other words)\nthat Clinton wants to do the investigation?  In other words, investigating\nthemselves?\n\nHe sure didn't seem very enthusiastic about Congress doing the investigation,\nI notice:  \"... well, they can do what they want...\"  (Probably insert\na pout here...)\n\nDoes anybody smell the attempt for a WHITEWASH?  Betcha the Justice\nDept investigation will, AT MOST say \"Possible Poor Judjement.  Too bad...\"\n\nGrrr.\n\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I'm a hockey fan from way back, and maintain an interest as best I can\nhere in the hockey hinterlands (Oklahoma).  I'm hoping I can get a\nreading from some of you about the move of the North Stars to Dallas.\n\nI've been under the impression that Minnesota was one of, or possibly,\nTHE hockey state in the U.S.  So why is the team moving to a city in\nTexas?  Is it that the owner is a greedy, self-serving profiteer, or\nwere the Stars really not making a profit?  Or was the city or whoever\nowned the arena doing some price gouging?\n\nAs much as I'd like to see the NHL only a 3 hour drive from me, I\ncan't help but feel for the people in Minnesota, unless they truly\ndidn't support the team.  \n\nOpinions, please.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"According to an article in the LA Times, Todd Worrell will not\nbe ready to come off the DL list Friday.  It sounds like\nhe has had another set back in his come back.  At present,\nhe has stopped throwing the ball.  Supposedly, he had\nno velocity.  It doesn't sound like there is any particular\ntime table at this point for when he will be back.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nMy mistake.  ","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I have a new (opened box, tested drive) Toshiba MK438FB disk for sale.\n\t3.5\"\n\t877 mb formatted \n\t12 ms\n\tSCSI-2\n\t3 year warranty","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nNot everyone should be trusted with tools. ;-)\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"This is just a test to see if this works.\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nTry to get axe - It's a wonderful X based editor and much simpler to use than\nemacs what is a overkill. Of course, emacs is no editor but a religion.\n\n\n1) Don't call going from an Amiga to a IBM 'upgrade'\n2) The Amiga Workbench did the job of a Desktop manager, and there is no\n   really amazing good X Desktop manager in the Public Domain.\n   (I'm currently writing one... but it's in very early stage)\n3) xdtm may be a medium good replacement.\n4) X associates icons with nothing. A number of X Window Managers associate\n   icons with windows, in a way to ease window management.\n   But this has nothing to do with icons of a Desktop Manager application.\n5) The tool bitmap is there for simple icon drawing.\n\n\nxv -root -max -quit whatever-image-file\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nMaxim makes a chip that does exactly what you want. The MAX7219 drives 8\n7 segment LED displays with full decode or drives 64 discrete LED's with\na 3 wire serial interface.  The chips can also be cascaded to allow very\nlarge arrays.  I am working on a sign display using this part.\n\nI'll have to post the contact info for Maxim later, it's at home.  There was\na series of articles on this chip in the last couple of Circuit Cellar Ink's.\n\nMike Harpe","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"-=> Quoting Cire Y. Trehguad to All <=-\n\n\n CYT> Hey I am in Iowa and I do not mind ESPN showing the PITT\/NJD games.\n CYT> At least I get to see the DEVILS...even if they are gettin there ass\n CYT> kicked Perhaps they will score and even win a game or two\n\n CYT> GO DEVILS\n\n\nI am sorry to tell you this, but\nI don't think the devils will win\na game against Pittsburg, the \nPenguins have so many scoring threats\nthat you shut down one and another\nwill kill you\nIt's too bad but I must conclude that the Penguins will\nwin their third stanley cup in a row.\nI hope someone will beat them, but I just cannot see it\nhappening.\n\n\nS t e v e\n\n\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Is anybody using David Rapier's Hebrew Quiz software?  And can tell\nme how to *space* when typing in the Hebrew?  (space bar doesn't work,\nfor me anyway...)  Email please; thanks.\n\nKen","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nFinally, someone seems to be making sense in this thread.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nBuy Adobe Streamline.  Problem solved.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Can anyone give me information or lead me to electronic information (not\nbooks; I'm too poor...) regarding programming the standard graphics modes?\n320x200x4 and 640x200x2 are easy enough, but I'm not so sure about the\nrest.  Something about planes or something, and writing to ports and the\nlike, but I don't know the numbers or anything -- for the 16 color modes, I\nthink.  If I'm wrong, let me know.  Also, 320x200x256 is just one byte\/pixel;\nthat's easy enough, but are there any other ways to write to the screen,\nperhaps bytes at a time, or something like that?\n\nOf course, I'd appreciate any information about any mode....  which reminds\nme of another question -- do the SuperVGA modes work the same, generally,\nas the normal 16 and 256 color modes, or is not only the mode numbers\nfor various cards different, but the methods for writing to the screen\ndifferent as well?\n\nThanks for any help you can give me...  I'm developing a screen class for\nC++ and find myself searching for information.  Oh, I do have Ralf Brown's\nInterrupt List, which has given me tons of invaluable information already.\nIt just doesn't go into the screen programming details (except for the\nread\/write pixel BIOS calls...\n\nThanks again.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nThe Civic does still come in a 4 door model.  My wife and I looked\nquite seriously at the 626, Prizm (Corolla), and Civic, as well as\nsome other cars.  Our impressions: all three seemed well built and had\nthe features we wanted - these are similar to the features you want\nexcept for cruise control, and we want a manual transmission and are\nconsidering anti-lock brakes.  I also hate automatic seatbelts and we\nboth think having an airbag is a plus.  In general, comfort and\nperformance were both significant.\n\nSome specific +'s and -'s are listed below.\n\nMazda 626\n + very comfortable and roomy\n + can theoretically get ABS on DX model, though in practice this is\n   hard to find\n + base price for base model includes numerous little things like:\n   tach, variable speed wipers, rear defroster, 60\/40 split folding rear seat\n - more expensive than many other cars listed below\n\nHonda Civic\n + DX gets significantly better mileage than other cars listed here\n + comfortable front seat\n + adjustable seat belt mounting\n - no ABS without EX model (includes $1000's of other things like a sunroof)\n\nGeo Prizm\/Toyota Corolla\n - seats not very comfortable to us (your mileage may vary)\n + adjustable seat belt mounting\n + can get ABS without lots of other extras\n\nSaturn\n + SL2 was quite comfortable, though SL1 less so\n - motorized attack belts\n\nDodge Spirit\n   no real outstanding +'s, but seemed generally ok\n - rear seat does not fold down\n\nChevy Corsica\n + comes with ABS standard\n - lower \"would you buy that car again\" and safety ratings in\n   Consumer Reports (than first 3 cars above)\n - suspension didn't feel as stiff as the others (this would be a +\n   for some)\n\nThe Honda Accord and Toyota Camry were both more expensive than the\n626, and in our minds, not significantly better.\n\nWe probably gave disproportionately low consideration to the \"big 3\",\ndue (a) to my wife's family's general dislike of Chrysler products,\n(b) some unimpressive GM products owned by my parents and a housemate\nof mine (c) the Taurus comes with automatic transmission, I find the\nseat of the Tempo very uncomfortable, and the escort has attack belts\nand no air bag.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"only\nappreciated.\n\n\nPierre Turgeon, formely of the Sabres and now of the Isles wears #77 (at  \nleast he did in Buffalo ...)","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I am interested in finding a supplier for an array of leds on material which is\ntransparent when nothing is lit.\n\nI'm not quite sure what LCD screens are like away from the laptop but I would \nguess they are not too clear.\n\nAn ideal item would be an LED array for which each LED is about 1\/2\" square.  \n(Yes very course)  This is for distance viewing, but on a window.\n\nAny pointers of suggestions would be much appreciated.\n\n-Mark Battisti\nmbattist@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"My ENT doctor recommended surgery to fix my sinuses.  I have a very deviated\nnasal septum (probably the result at least partially from several fractures).\nOne side has approximately 10-15% of normal flow.  Of course I have known this\nfor years but recently discovered that I suffer from chronic sinus infection,\ndiscovered during an MRI after a severe migraine.  A CT scan subsequently \nconfirmed the problems in the sinuses.\n\nHe wants to do endoscopic sinus surgery on the ethmoid, maxillary, frontal,\nand sphenoid, along with nasal septoplasty.\n\nHe explained the procedure, and the risks.  What I would like to know is if\nthere is anyone out there who can tell me \"I had this surgery, and it helped\nme\"?\n\n(I've already heard from a couple who said they had it and it didn't\nreally help them).\n\nI am a moderately severe asthmatic.  ENT doc says large percentage see some\nrelief of their asthma after sinus surgery.  Also he said it is not unheard of\nthat migraines go away after chronis sinusitis is relieved.\n\nI am 42.\n\nAny relevant information is appreciated.\n\nRegards,","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n<:  ....other good stuff about the Drs idiocy\n\nOk, much as I hate to do it, here I am posting an EVEN BETTER \"Dr. Idiot\"\nstory.\n\n\nI was in my 18th hour of labor, had been pushing for 4.5 hours and was\nexhausted.  My OB and I decided to go for a csec.  The OB called in\nthe anesthisiologist (sp?) and asked him to help prep me for surgery.\n\nAFTER, watching me go through a couple contractions, the anes (or anus as\nI like to refer to him) said, \"Well, I am off duty now.\" (still staring\nbetween my legs at that).  The OB asked to go call whomever it was who\nwas on duty and ask him\/her how long it would take...and if it was going\nto take more than a few minutes, to please stay even though he was off duty.\n\nThe anes. went out, supposedly to call the on-call anes.   In a couple of\nminutes the nurse came running in to tell the OB that the anes. had left\nwithout even trying to get ahold of the on-call.  It was the only time \nduring my labor that I swore.  The on-call anes. took 20 minutes to get\nthere.\n\nCome to find out, the anes. had only just gone off duty (about 2 minutes\nbefore) and technically was supposed to stay in the hospital until the\nnext on-call got there.  Good thing for all of us (especially him) that\nit was not a critical emergency.  But boy would I love to knock that\nfellow's ouchie places ...just to let him be in pain a\nfew little minutes.\n\n\n\nI have run into \"Dr. Idiots\", \"Mechanic Idiots\", \"Clerk Idiots\" and \"Etc.\nIdiots\" in my time, but this fellow I would like to have words with.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n: Does anyone know about these studies? Or have experience with feverfew?\n\nI keep an accurate log of my migraine attack frequency; feverfew didn't\nseem to do anything for me.  However, eliminating caffeine seems to pre-\nvent the onset of migraine in my case.  In other words, no caffeine, no \nmigraines.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"             Cool!\n\tI think you mean Moon.\n\t\t(Sorry, I had to.)  ; )\n\n\n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"     I also experience this kinda problem in my 89 BMW 318. During cold\nstart ups, the clutch seems to be sticky and everytime i drive out, for\nabout 5km, the clutch seems to stick onto somewhere that if i depress\nthe clutch, the whole chassis moves along. But after preheating, it\nbecomes smooth again. I think that your suggestion of being some\nhumudity is right but there should be some remedy. I also found out that\nmy clutch is already thin but still alright for a couple grand more!\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nUm. Would you mind telling us what state\/municipality you live in? There\nare different laws in different places, you know.\n\n                  tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nOh, do please try not to be ludicrous.  SO=Significant Other, a term I employed to avoid the awkward construction \"girlfriend or wife\".\n\n\n\nA \"deviant\" is someone who does not fit an \"accepted norm.\"  By that definition, I would certainly be a deviant, as bisexuality is not an accepted norm in American society so far.  This term, of course, really has no negative aspects inherent in its denotation.  I presume you intended it as a term of abuse.  It's a great pity you feel such tactics to be necessary, but hardly surprising since you have no factual basis for your absurd beliefs.\n\n\n\nMay I attempt to emulate your style of discourse with a term of abuse?  Ahem...You addle-pated jellyfish!  The post to which I responded was a highly amusing one in which you belittled homosexuals for having no political clout.  I would be further amused if you would explain to me why having no political clout and constituting a political minority are different.\n\n\n\nAnd yet you call them \"girls!\"  The feminists would be up in arms.\n\n\nCough, cough.  Well, well, you certainly are a fine, upstanding fellow, you are, sir.  And like many \"fine, upstanding fellows,\" you have the reading comprehension of a dyslexic anteater.  Perhaps I should have been more explicit in pointing out that females constitute a political minority in this country when last I checked, and that your obvious lack of respect for these minorities equates to a lack of respect for women.  That is, of course, a conceptual stretch of logic, but given your slow uptake as de\n\n\n\n\nmonstrated so far, I figure we should start simple and work up.  Don't worry, you'll get it\n     \n!\n\n\n\nThis is very true, this bit about nature asserting itself.  Homosexuality has always been a part of human society, and always will be, for that is the natural order.  If you're naive enough to believe otherwise, go right ahead; we'll try not to snicker too loudly behind your back.\n\n\"Inevitable.\"  Chortle.  Anyone would think you had some idea what you were talking about.  I haven't seen fact one from you, and until I do you can just dispense with the bullshit, and tell us what we already know, that you're a clueless little slime mold with no concept of reality beyond The Donna Reed Show.  Live a little, and then come back and tell us all about the \"natural order of things.\"  You're in a bubble, and it's really going to rock your world when you come out.\n\n\n\n\"Foolish and misguided.\"  Oh, this is too much.  So which religious figure do YOU believe you are?  And how do you know so much about the nature of man?  You're almost too amusing to be worth the effort of crushing your pealike brain.      \n\nGee, you sound awfully sure of yourself.  \"Methinks the bigot doth protest too much.\"  Admit it: you're scared shitless that what you've been spoonfed all your sorry little life was wrong, and you're trying to escape that fear by a blind faith that you know, deep down, is based in nothing, nothing at all.  Go ahead, clutch your unfounded declaratives to your empty breast; ignore the myriad of societies that have accepted homosexuality as equally valid or even mystical.  Ignore the solid, inescapable fact t\n\n\n\n\nhat we've existed as long as humans have.  Fear us.  Go ahead.  Laugh at us if it makes you feel better.  We both know you're just whistling in the dark.  There's one group that's stamped out whenever it appears, in any form, and that's the group of boneheads who fancy themselves morally superior.  You're in that group, and you're slowly and steadily being stamped out.  Preach while you can, little man...it won't be long.\n\n\nThat's the first truth you've told so far.  I don't hate hets, sir.  I'm bisexual, and I embrace man- and womankind alike.  I have nothing against those who don't understand my love.  But you deny its potency and validity.  You would crush us all, human beings to a one, in your imagined divinity.  It's fools like you that stir my ire...idiots with the small minds, who can't think for themselves, who know nothing about how the real world operates, and who hate because they are told what to do and do it like\n\n\n\n\n sheep, who hate everyone who refuses to be a sheep.  You're not part of the norm.  You're part of a minority--YES, a minority!--with supreme, o'erweening arrogance.  Your hubris will topple, because it always has, because those with intelligence know it to be a clown's costume.\n\nWow, that was pretentious!  I sometimes wonder why I waste my talents on zeroes like you.  I really have no interest in continuing this effortless discussion; after all, this is for me the proverbial battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.  Come back with some swords--i.e. facts--and we shall do battle.  Till then, begone from my sight.\n\nDrewcifer","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nI've been in two _major_ auto accidents, both were multiple car.  The worst\nwas a head-on three car collision (T intersection and one person ran a stop\nsign).  In both cases I was stopped and had no place to go (and I saw it\ncoming both times). \n\n\nIf you _really_ want to add safety to _any_ car, simply add a cage to the\ncar.  They are available and cheap (about $500 in the USA).  Add to that\nfour or five or six point belts and you will walk away from collisions that\nwere otherwise not survivable.  but instead of people spending a little\nextra money, we get legislation that says the gov't must mandate a minimal\nlevel of protection for everyone. \n\nOne other significant factor in improving one's own safety is to get some\ntraining.  This will improve your safety more than any other single\ninvestment will.  Drive\/ride defensively (and that does not mean you have\nto be a doddering old stick in the mud).  People here tend to enthuse about\nautos more than the average (probably in the top 15th percentile in driving\nability), but still we sometimes overlook the obvious.  I've been to two\ndriving schools, and three riding schools for my motorcycle.  A very\nworthwhile investment (and besides, it was a lot of fun too ;-). \n\nSafety is what you make of it, just because a carmaker doesn't provide you\nwith an adequate level of protection doesn't mean you have to leave it go at\nthat. \n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nAgree 100%, personally I cannot flip from page to page on a screen and\nretain information as easily as in the written page.\n\n\nDitto's ... in fact .. at work, where things are dead if the backup\nis no good, I insist on having at least a 2 level backup system.  \nIt seems that whenever you have 2 good backups, you never need them, \nbut if you don't have them, Murphy guarantees that you'll suffer for it.\n\n\n and mine of course.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nI *cannot* *believe* I am posting in this thread, but what\nthe hell, he asked for it.\n\nI had sort of the same reaction myself when I was first realizing\nI was bi.  \"So what, >90% of everyone else is straight, I'd never\nend up with a guy anyway.\"  As several people on soc.bi pointed\nout to me, this is true only if you find partners (for relationships\nor just for sex) in primarily straight circles.  Nowadays with gay\nculture quite visible in major cities and such, you can easily\nfind yourself in an overwhelmingly queer social circle if you so\nchoose.  (About half my friends are bi, and that's just from\nhanging out in the science fiction club and going to UCBU once a\nweek, it's not as if I have to go out of my way and hang out in\nbars or something.)\n\nSo the available pool for dates can be the same size.  Unless of\ncourse you're trying to date a random sample of the US population.\n\nAs for promiscuity, I've traded email with Clayton on the topic,\nand he still doesn't seem to want to admit that yes, gay males\nare sometimes forced to resort to anonymous sex because they're\ncloseted and can't afford to be seen in a permanent relationship.\nOr that part of the promiscuity is because of the messed-up gender\nroles in our society, and when males are dating males and they've\n*all* been trained to be the aggressor in sex, there's going to\nbe more sex.  Or that what's \"dysfunctional\", what's \"screwed up\"\nis societal attitudes, not gay sexuality, and that's what \nencourages deviant behavior in gay males.\n\n(also note that just because someone's had 200 sex partners \ndoesn't mean they're promiscuous.  yes, it sounds ridiculous,\nbut it's quite possible for someone to go through a heavily\ncloseted phase in which they have lots of anonymous sex with\nstrangers, and then come out, start forming real relationships,\nand be monogamous or nearly so...)\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"What worked for me on my RD350 was to lean towards the dog as I modulated\nthrottle to keep my ankle just ahead of his teeth.  After a few seconds of\nwarm pipe firmly wedged on his shoulder he turned his face sideways to see\nwhat was so warm and got his mouth\/nose\/muzzle burned on the pipes.  One\nyip and he veered away, never to chase me again.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nV4s? I don't know of any. I4s and flat4s are abundant.\n\n\nA whole $h!tload. Minivans, pickups, just about any car above the\nsubcompact\/compact range and below the full-size range (with a few\nexceptions).\n\nI6s are much more rare now; the only one I personally know of that's\nstill in production is the venerable Ford 300CID in the F-series pickups.\nI think that Jeep's big 6's are also straight sixes, but I'm not a\nbig Jeep person.\n\n\nWhere are you to not know of V8s? There are Mustangs, Cadillacs,\nLincolns, Camaros, Corvettes, Thunderbirds, all real full-size\npickups, Crown Vics, Chevy Moby^H^H^H^HCaprice ;-), and even a few\nJapanese and European vee-hickles with V8s.\n\nV10 - Dodge Viper; Dodge promises a truck with a V10.\n\n\nDon't Ferarri and Lamborghini both use V-12s extensively?\n\n\t\t\t\tJames","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Archive-name: x-faq\/speedups\nLast-modified: 1993\/4\/20\n\n- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -\n\tHOW TO MAXIMIZE THE PERFORMANCE OF X -- monthly posting\n- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -\n\t    Compiled by Art Mulder (art@cs.ualberta.ca)\n\n  More RAM, Faster CPU's, More disk space, Faster Ethernet...  These\n  are the standard responses you hear when you ask how to improve the\n  performance of your workstation.\n\n  Well, more hardware isn't always an option, and I wonder if more\n  hardware is always even a necessity.\n\n  This \"FAQ\" list is a collection of suggestions and ideas from different\n  people on the net on how you can the best possible performance from X\n  Windows on your workstation, WITHOUT PURCHASING MORE HARDWARE.\n\n  Performance is a highly subjective issue.  The individual user must\n  balance `speed' versus `features' in order to come to a personal\n  decision.  Therefore this document can be be expected to contain many\n  subjective opinions in and amongst the objective facts.\n\n  This document is specifically concerned with X.  There are of course\n  many other factors that can affect the performance of a workstation.\n  However, they are outside the scope of this document.\n\n    [ People seriously interested in the whole area of system\n    performance, might want to look at the O'Reilly Nutshell Handbook\n    \"System Performance Tuning\" by Mike Loukides.  IMHO, it contains a\n    well-written, comprehensive treatment of system performance.  I'm\n    unaware of any other similar books.  --ed.]\n\n-----------------\nTable of Contents\n-----------------\n  0. Introduction & Administrivia\n  1. What about the \"Other X FAQ\"?\n  2. Window Managers\n  3. The X Server\n       Which Server?\n       Locking the Server into RAM?\n       Starting your Server\n       Fonts\n       About the Resources File\n       Define Your Display Properly\n  4. Clients\n       A Better Clock for X\n       A Better Terminal Emulator for X\n       Tuning your client\n  5. Miscellaneous Suggestions\n       Pretty Pictures\n       A Quicker Mouse\n       Programming Thoughts\n       Say What!?\n  6. Other Sources of Information\n  7. Author & Notes\n  \n! = changed since last issue.\n* = new since last issue.\n\n-----------------------------\nIntroduction & Administrivia\n-----------------------------\n\n  This document is posted each month, on or around the 15th, to the\n  Usenet news groups comp.windows.x, news.answers, and comp.answers.\n  If you are reading a copy of this FAQ which is more than a few\n  months old (see the \"Last-modified\" date above) you should probably\n  locate the latest edition, since the information may be outdated.\n\n  If you do not know how to get those newsgroups and\/or your site does\n  not receive them and\/or this article has already expired, you can\n  retrieve this FAQ from an archive site.\n\n  There exist several usenet FAQ archive sites.  To find out more about\n  them and how to access them, please see the \"Introduction to the\n  news.answers newsgroup\" posting in news.answers.\n\n  The main FAQ archive is at rtfm.mit.edu [18.172.1.27].  This document\n  can be found there in \/pub\/usenet\/news.answers\/x-faq\/speedups.  If\n  you do not have access to anonymous ftp, you can retrieve it by\n  sending a mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with the\n  command \"send usenet\/news.answers\/x-faq\/speedups\" in the message body.\n\n-----------------------------\nWhat about the \"Other X FAQ\"?\n-----------------------------\n\n  David B. Lewis (faq%craft@uunet.uu.net) maintains the informative and\n  well written \"comp.windows.x Frequently Asked Questions\" document.\n  Its focus is on general X information, while this FAQ concentrates\n  on performance.\n\n  The comp.windows.x FAQ does address the issue of speed, but only with\n  regards to the X server.  The gist of that topic seems to be:\n\t\"Use X11R5, it is faster than R4\".\n  (Please see the X FAQ for complete details).\n\n---------------\nWindow Managers\n---------------\n\n  There are a lot of window managers out there, with lots of different\n  features and abilities.  The choice of which to use is by necessity a\n  balancing act between performance and useful features.  At this\n  point, most respondents have agreed upon \"twm\" as the best candidate\n  for a speedy window manager. \n\n  A couple of generic tricks you can try to soup up your window manger,\n  is turning off unnecessary things like \"zooming\" and \"opaque move\".\n  Also, if you lay out your windows in a tiled manner, you reduce the\n  amount of cpu power spent in raising and lowering overlapping\n  windows.                           Joe English (joe@trystero.art.com)\n\n  I've found that a good font for tiling is 7x13 (aka:\n  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-100-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1 ). It is\n  the biggest font I know of that I can use on my Sun (1152x900 screen)\n  and still get two 80 column terminal windows side-by-side on the\n  display with no overlap.  Other font suggestions will be accepted.\n\n------------\nThe X Server\n------------\n\nWhich Server?\n- - - - - - -\n  Make sure that your server is a proper match for your hardware.\n  If you have a monochrome monitor, use a monochrome X11 server.\n\n  On my Monochrome Sun, I haven't noticed much difference between\n  the Xsun (colour) server and XsunMono, however it was pointed out to\n  me that XsunMono is about 800k smaller and therefore should contribute\n  to less paging.  \n         [ thanks to: Jonny Farringdon (j.farringdon@psychol.ucl.ac.uk),\n                        Michael Salmon (Michael.Salmon@eos.ericsson.se) ]\n\n  How your server was compiled can also make a difference.  Jeff Law\n  (law@schirf.cs.utah.edu) advises us that on a Sun system, X should be\n  compiled with gcc (version 2.*) or with the unbundled Sun compiler.\n  You can expect to get \"*very* large speedups in the server\" by not\n  using the bundled SunOS compiler.  I assume that similar results\n  would occur if you used one of the other high-quality commercial\n  compilers on the market.\n\nLocking the Server into RAM?\n- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -\n  Has anyone tried hacking the X server so that it is locked into RAM and\n  does not get paged?  eg: via a call to plock().  Does this help\n  performance at all?  I've had one inquiry on this topic, and a few\n  pointers to the plock() function call, but no hard evidence from someone\n  who's tried it.  I am not in a position to give it a try.  \n\t\t\t  [thanks to: Eric C Claeys (ecc@eperm.att.com),\n\t\t\t\t      Danny Backx (db@sunbim.be),\n\t\t\t\t      Juan D. Martin (juando@cnm.us.es) ]\nStarting your Server\n- - - - - - - - - - -\n  Joe English (joe@trystero.art.com) :\n    If you start up a lot of clients in your .xsession or whatever, sleep\n    for a second or two after launching each one.  After I changed my\n    .xclients script to do this, logging in actually took *less* time...\n    we have a heavily loaded system without much core, though.\n\n  This sounds crazy, but I have confirmed that it works!  \n\n  Warner Losh (imp@Solbourne.COM) provided me with a good explanation of\n  why this works, which I have summarized here:\n\n    When you start up an X server it takes a huge amount of time to\n    start accepting connections.  A lot of initialization is done by\n    the server when it starts.  This process touches a large number of\n    pages.  Any other process running at the same time would fight the\n    server for use of the CPU, and more importantly, memory.  If you\n    put a sleep in there, you give the Server a chance to get itself\n    sorted out before the clients start up.\n\n    Similarly, there is also a lot of initialization whenever an X\n    client program starts: toolkits registering widgets, resources\n    being fetched, programs initializing state and \"databases\" and so\n    forth.  All this activity is typically memory intensive.  Once this\n    initialization is done (\"The process has reached a steady state\"),\n    the memory usage typically settles down to using only a few pages.\n    By using sleeps to stagger the launching of your clients in your\n    .Xinitrc , you avoid them fighting each other for your\n    workstation's limited resources\n\n  This is most definitely a \"Your Mileage May Vary\" situation, as there\n  are so many variables to be considered: available RAM, local swap\n  space, load average, number of users on your system, which clients\n  you are starting, etc.\n\n  Currently in my .xinitrc I have a situation like:\n\t(sleep 1; exec xclock ) &\n\t(sleep 1; exec xbiff ) &\n\t(sleep 1; exec xterm ) &\n\t(sleep 1; exec xterm ) &\n\n  I've experimented with:\n\t(sleep 1; exec xclock ) &\n\t(sleep 2; exec xbiff ) &\n\t(sleep 3; exec xterm ) &\n\t(sleep 4; exec xterm ) &\n\n  I've even tried:\n\t(sleep 2; exec start_X_clients_script ) &\n  and then in start_X_clients_script I had:\n\t(sleep 1; exec xclock ) &\n\t(sleep 1; exec xbiff ) &\n\t(sleep 1; exec xterm ) &\n\t(sleep 1; exec xterm ) &\n\n    [ The idea with this last one was to make sure that xinit had\n    completely finished processing my .xinitrc, and had settled down\n    into a \"steady state\" before the sleep expired and all my clients\n    were launched. ]\n\n  All of these yielded fairly comparable results, and so I just stuck with\n  my current setup, for its simplicity.  You will probably have to\n  experiment a bit to find a setup which suits you.\n\nFonts\n- - -\n  Loading fonts takes time and RAM.  If you minimize the number of fonts\n  your applications use, you'll get speed increases in load-up time.\n\n  One simple strategy is to choose a small number of fonts (one small, one\n  large, one roman, whatever suits you) and configure all your clients -- or\n  at least all your heavily used clients -- to use only those few fonts.\n  Client programs should start up quicker if their font is already loaded\n  into the server.  This will also conserve server resources, since fewer\n  fonts will be loaded by the server.\n\t\t\t      [ Farrell McKay (fbm@ptcburp.ptcbu.oz.au),\n\t\t\t        Joe English (joe@trystero.art.com) ]\n\n  eg: My main xterm font is 7x13, so I also have twm set up to use 7x13\n  in all it's menus and icons etc.  Twm's default font is 8x13.  Since\n  I don't normally use 8x13, I've eliminated one font from my server.\n\n  Oliver Jones (oj@roadrunner.pictel.com):\n    Keep fonts local to the workstation, rather than loading them over nfs.\n    If you will make extensive use of R5 scalable fonts, use a font server.\n\nAbout the Resources File\n- - - - - - - - - - - - -\n\n    Keep your .Xresources \/ .Xdefaults file small.  Saves RAM and saves\n    on server startup time.          Joe English (joe@trystero.art.com)\n\n  One suggestion:\n\n    In your .Xdefaults (.Xresources) file, try putting only the minimum\n    number of resources that you want to have available to all of your\n    applications.  For example:  *reverseVideo: true\n\n    Then, separate your resources into individual client-specific\n    resource files.  For example: $HOME\/lib\/app-defaults.  In your\n    .login file set the environment variable XUSERFILESEARCHPATH:\n\n\tsetenv XUSERFILESEARCHPATH $HOME\/lib\/app-defaults\/%N\n\n    [ The \"comp.windows.x Frequently Asked Questions\" FAQ contains\n    an excellent explanation of how these environment variables work.\n    --ed.]\n\n    So, when xterm launches, it loads its resources from\n    ...\/app-defaults\/XTerm.  Xdvi finds them in ...\/app-defaults\/XDvi,\n    and so on and so forth.  Note that not all clients follow the same\n    XXxxx resource-file naming pattern.  You can check in your system\n    app-defaults directory (often: \/usr\/X11R5\/lib\/X11\/app-defaults\/) to\n    find the proper name, and then name your personal resource files\n    with the same name.\n\n    This is all documented in the Xt Specification (pg 125 & 666).\n\t\t    [Thanks to: Kevin Samborn (samborn@mtkgc.com),\n\t\t         Michael Urban (urban@cobra.jpl.nasa.gov),\n\t\t             and Mike Long (mikel@ee.cornell.edu).\n\t     Kevin is willing mail his setup files to inquirers.]\n\n  This method of organizing your personal resources has the following\n  benefits:\n\n    - Easier to maintain \/ more usable.\n\n    - Fewer resources are stored in the X server in the RESOURCE_MANAGER\n      property.  As a side benefit your server may start fractionally\n      quicker, since it doesn`t have to load all your resources.\n\n    - Applications only process their own resources, never have to sort \n      through all of your resources to find the ones that affect them.\n\n  It also has drawbacks:\n\n    - the application that you are interested in has to load an\n      additional file every time it starts up.  This doesn't seem to\n      make that much of a performance difference, and you might\n      consider this a huge boon to usability.  If you are modifying an\n      application's resource database, you just need to re-run the\n      application without having to \"xrdb\" again.\n\n    - xrdb will by default run your .Xdefaults file through cpp.  When\n      your resources are split out into multiple resource files and\n      then loaded by the individual client programs, they will not.\n      WATCH OUT FOR THIS!!\n\n      I had C style comments in my .Xdefaults file, which cpp stripped\n      out.  When I switched to this method of distributed resource\n      files I spent several frustrating days trying to figure out why\n      my clients were not finding their resources.  Xt did *NOT*\n      provide any error message when it encountered the C style\n      comments in the resource files, it simply, silently, aborted\n      processing the resource file.\n\n      The loss of preprocessing (which can be very handy, e.g. ``#ifdef\n      COLOR'' ...) is enough to cause some people to dismiss this\n      method of resource management.\n\n    - You may also run into some clients which break the rules.  For\n      example, neither Emacs (18.58.3) nor Xvt (1.0) will find their\n      resources if they are anywhere other than in .Xdefaults.\n\n    - when starting up a client on a machine that does not share files\n      with the machine where your resources are stored, your client\n      will not find its resources.  Loading all your resources into the\n      server will guarantee that all of your clients will always find\n      their resources.            Casey Leedom (casey@gauss.llnl.gov)\n\n  A possible compromise suggestion that I have (and am planning on trying)\n  is to put resources for all my heavily used clients (eg: xterm) into my\n  .Xdefaults file, and to use the \"separate resources files\" method for\n  clients that I seldom use.\n\nDefine Your Display Properly\n- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -\n\n  Client programs are often executed on the same machine as the server.  In\n  that situation, rather than setting your DISPLAY environment variable to \n  \"<hostname>:0.0\", where <hostname> is the name of your workstation, you\n  should set your DISPLAY variable to \"unix:0.0\" or \":0.0\".  By doing this\n  you access optimized routines that know that the server is on the same\n  machine and use a shared memory method of transferring requests.\n\t\t\t[thanks to Patrick J Horgan (pjh70@ras.amdahl.com)]\n\n  See the _DISPLAY NAMES_ section of the X(1) man page for further\n  explanation of how to properly set your display name.\n\n  \"I don't think it's stock MIT, but (at least) Data General and HP have\n  libraries that are smart enough to use local communication even when\n  the DISPLAY isn't set specially.\"\n\t\t\t      Rob Sartin (88opensi!sartin@uunet.UU.NET)\n\n  [Jody Goldberg (jody@algorithmics.com) sent me an Xlib patch to change\n  stock R5 to use local communication even if DISPLAY is not properly set.\n  I don't want to get in the business of distributing or trying to juggle\n  non-MIT patches and so have elected not to include it here.  Hopefully MIT\n  will apply this minor (~8 lines) patch themselves.  In the meantime, if\n  you want to try it yourself, email Jody.  --ed.]\n\n-------\nClients\n-------\n\n  If you only have a few megabytes of Ram then you should think\n  carefully about the number of programs you are running.  Think also\n  about the _kind_ of programs you are running.  For example:  Is there\n  a smaller clock program than xclock?\n\n  Unfortunately, I haven't really noticed that programs advertise how large\n  they are, so the onus is on us to do the research and spread the word.\n\n  [ Suggestions on better alternatives to the some of the standard clients\n  (eg: Xclock, Xterm, Xbiff) are welcome.  --ed.]\n\n  I've received some contradictory advice from people, on the subject\n  of X client programs.  Some advocate the use of programs that are\n  strictly Xlib based, since Xt, Xaw and other toolkits are rather\n  large.  Others warn us that other applications which you are using\n  may have already loaded up one or more of these shared libraries.  In\n  this case, using a non-Xt (for example) client program may actually\n  _increase_ the amount of RAM consumed.\n\n  The upshot of all this seems to be: Don't mix toolkits.  That is, try\n  and use just Athena clients, or just Xview clients (or just Motif\n  clients, etc).  If you use more than one, then you're dragging in\n  more than one toolkit library.\n\n  Know your environment, and think carefully about which client\n  programs would work best together in that environment.\n\n\t\t  [Thanks to: Rob Sartin (88opensi!sartin@uunet.UU.NET),\n      Duncan Sinclair (sinclair@dcs.gla.ac.uk | sinclair@uk.ac.gla.dcs) ]\n\nA Better Clock for X\n- - - - - - - - - - -\n\n1) xcuckoo\n   suggested by: Duncan Sinclair (sinclair@dcs.gla.ac.uk)\n   available: on export.lcs.mit.edu\n\n   Xcuckoo displays a clock in the title bar of *another* program.\n   Saves screen real estate.\n\n2) mclock\n   suggested by: der Mouse (mouse@Lightning.McRCIM.McGill.EDU)\n   available: larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (132.206.1.1) in \/X\/mclock.shar\n\n   Non Xt-based.  Extensively configurable.  it can be made to look\n   very much like MIT oclock, or mostly like xclock purely by changing\n   resources.\n\n  Of course, the ultimate clock --- one that consumes no resources, and \n  takes up no screen real estate --- is the one that hangs on your wall.\n  :-) \n\nA Better Terminal Emulator for X\n- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -\n\n  From the README file distributed with xterm:\n\n  +-----\n  |\t\t Abandon All Hope, Ye Who Enter Here\n  |\n  | This is undoubtedly the most ugly program in the distribution.\n  | ...\n  +-----\n\n  Ugly maybe, but at my site it's still the most used.  I suspect that\n  xterm is one of the most used clients at many, if not most sites.\n  Laziness?  Isn't there a better terminal emulator available?  See below.\n\n  If you must use xterm, you can try reducing the number of saveLines\n  to reduce memory usage.  [ Oliver Jones (oj@roadrunner.pictel.com),\n\t\t   Jonny Farringdon (j.farringdon@psychol.ucl.ac.uk) ]\n\n1) Xvt\n   suggested by: Richard Hesketh (rlh2@ukc.ac.uk) :\n   available: export.lcs.mit.edu in \/contrib\/xvt-1.0.tar.Z\n\n   \"...if you don't need all the esoteric features of xterm, then get\n   hold of xvt ...  it was written here just to save swap space as\n   xterm is rather a hog! \"\n\n   This was written as a partial 'clone' of xterm.  You don't have to\n   rename your resources, as xvt pretends to be XTerm.  In it's current\n   version, you cannot bind keys as you can in xterm.  I've heard that\n   there are versions of xvt with this feature, but I've not found any\n   yet.\n\n   UPDATE (March 1993):  I recently had a few email conversations with\n   Brian Warkentin (brian.warkentine@eng.sun.com) regarding xvt.  He\n   questions whether xvt really is at all faster than xterm.  For\n   instance, xvt may initialize slightly faster, but compare scrolling\n   speed (try this quickie benchmark: \/bin\/time dd if=\/etc\/termcap\n   bs=40) and see which program can scroll faster.  Also, while xterm\n   may be slightly larger in RAM requirements (We don't have any hard\n   numbers here, does anyone else?) shared libraries and shared text\n   segments mean that xterm's paging requirements are not that major.\n\n   As an experiment, he ripped out all the tek stuff from xterm, but it\n   made little difference, since if you never use it, it never gets\n   brought into memory.\n\n   So here we stand with some conflicting reports on the validity of\n   xvt over xterm.  In summary?  Caveat Emptor, your mileage may vary.\n   If you can provide some hard data, I'd like to see it.\n   Specifically: How much RAM each occupies, how much swap each needs,\n   relative speed of each\n\n2) mterm\n   suggested by: der Mouse (mouse@Lightning.McRCIM.McGill.EDU)\n   available: larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (132.206.1.1) in\n     \/X\/mterm.src\/mterm.ball-o-wax.\n\n   \"I also have my own terminal emulator.  Its major lack is\n   scrollback, but some people like it anyway.\"\n\n\nTuning your client\n- - - - - - - - - -\n\n  Suggestions on how you can tune your client programs to work faster.\n\n  From Scott Barman (scott@asd.com) comes a suggestion regarding Motif\n  Text Field Widgets:\n\n    I noticed that during data entry into Motif text field widgets, I\n    was getting a slight lag in response to some keystrokes,\n    particularly the initial one in the field.  Examining the what was\n    going on with xscope I found it.  It seems that when the resource\n    XmNblinkRate is non-zero and the focus is on a text field widget\n    (or even just a text widget) the I-beam cursor will blink.\n    Every time the cursor appears or disappears in those widgets, the\n    widget code is making a request to the server (CopyArea).  The user\n    can stop this by setting the resource XmNblinkRate to 0.  It is not\n    noticeable on a 40MHz SPARC, but it does make a little difference\n    on a [slower system].\n\n  This specific suggestion can probably be applied in general to lots\n  of areas.  Consider your heavily used clients, are there any minor\n  embellishments that can be turned off and thereby save on Server\n  requests?\n\n-------------------------\nMiscellaneous Suggestions\n-------------------------\n\nPretty Pictures\n- - - - - - - -\n  Don't use large bitmaps (GIF's, etc) as root window backgrounds.\n\n  - The more complicated your root window bitmap, the slower the server\n    is at redrawing your screen when you reposition windows (or redraw, etc)\n\n  - These take up RAM, and CPU power.  I work on a Sun SPARC and I'm\n    conscious of performance issues, I can't comprehend it when I see\n    people with a 4mb Sun 3\/60 running xphoon as their root window.\n\n    I'll let someone else figure out how much RAM would be occupied by\n    having a full screen root image on a colour workstation.\n\n  - If you're anything like me, you need all the screen real estate\n    that you can get for clients, and so rarely see the root window anyway.\n\n\t\t      [ Thanks to Qiang Alex Zhao (azhao@cs.arizona.edu) \n\t\t\tfor reminding me of this one. --ed.]\n\nA Quicker Mouse\n- - - - - - - -\n  Using xset, you can adjust how fast your pointer moves on the screen\n  when you move your mouse.  I use \"xset m 3 10\" in my .xinitrc file,\n  which lets me send my pointer across the screen with just a flick of\n  the wrist.  See the xset man page for further ideas and information.\n\n  Hint: sometimes you may want to *slow down* your mouse tracking for\n  fine work.  To cover my options, I have placed a number of different\n  mouse setting commands into a menu in my window manager.  \n\n  e.g. (for twm) :\n      menu \"mouse settings\" {\n        \"Mouse Settings:\"\t\t\tf.title\n\t\"  Very Fast\"\t\t\t\t! \"xset m 7 10 &\"\n\t\"  Normal (Fast)\"\t\t\t! \"xset m 3 10 &\"\n\t\"  System Default (Un-Accelerated)\"\t! \"xset m default &\"\n\t\"  Glacial\"\t\t\t\t! \"xset m 0 10 &\"\n      }\n\nProgramming Thoughts\n- - - - - - - - - - -\n  Joe English (joe@trystero.art.com) :\n    To speed up applications that you're developing, there are tons of\n    things you can do.  Some that stick out:\n\n    - For Motif programs, don't set XmFontList resources for individual\n      buttons, labels, lists, et. al.; use the defaultFontList or\n      labelFontList or whatever resource of the highest-level manager\n      widget.  Again, stick to as few fonts as possible.\n\n    - Better yet, don't use Motif at all.  It's an absolute pig.\n\n    - Don't create and destroy widgets on the fly.  Try to reuse them.\n      (This will avoid many problems with buggy toolkits, too.)\n\n    - Use a line width of 0 in GCs.  On some servers this makes a HUGE\n      difference.\n\n    - Compress and collapse multiple Expose events.  This can make the\n      difference between a fast application and a completely unusable\n      one.\n\n  Francois Staes (frans@kiwi.uia.ac.be) :\n    Just a small remark: I once heard that using a better malloc\n    function would greatly increase performance of Xt based\n    applications since they use malloc heavily. They suggested trying\n    out the GNUY malloc, but I didn't find the time yet. I did some\n    tests on small programs just doing malloc and free, and the\n    differences were indeed very noticeable ( somewhat 5 times faster)\n\n  [ Any confirmation on this from anyone?  --ed.]\n\n  Andre' Beck (Andre_Beck@IRS.Inf.TU-Dresden.de) :\n\n  - Unnecessary NoExpose Events.\n\n    Most people use XCopyArea\/XCopyPlane as fastest blit routines, but\n    they forget to reset graphics_exposures in the GC used for the\n    blits. This will cause a NoExpose Event every blit, that, in most\n    cases, only puts load onto the connection and forces the client to\n    run through it's event-loop again and again.\n\n  - Thousands of XChangeGC requests.\n\n    This \"Gfx Context Switching\" is also seen in most handcoded X-Apps,\n    where only one or few GCs are created and then heavily changed\n    again and again.  Xt uses a definitely better mechanism, by caching\n    and sharing a lot of GCs with all needed parameters. This will\n    remove the load of subsequent XChangeGC requests from the\n    connection (by moving it toward the client startup phase).\n\nSay What!?\n- - - - - - \n  Some contributors proposed ideas that seem right off the wall at first:\n\n  David B. Lewis (by day: dbl@osf.org, by night: david%craft@uunet.uu.net) :\n    How about this: swap displays with someone else. Run all your programs\n    on the other machine and display locally; the other user runs off your\n    machine onto the other display. Goal: reduce context switches in the\n    same operation between client and server.\n\n  I'm not in a situation where I can easily try this, but I have received\n  the following confirmation...\n\n  Michael Salmon (Michael.Salmon@eos.ericsson.se):\n    I regularly run programs on other machines and I notice a big\n    difference. I try to run on a machine where I will reduce net usage\n    and usually with nice to reduce the impact of my intrusion. This\n    helps a lot on my poor little SS1+ with only 16 MB, it was\n    essential when I only had 8 MB.\n\n  Casey Leedom (casey@gauss.llnl.gov) :\n    [The X11 Server and the client are] competing for the same CPU as\n    your server when you run it on the same machine.  Not really a\n    major problem, except that the X11 client and the server are in\n    absolute synchronicity and are context thrashing.\n\n  Timothy H Panton (thp@westhawk.uucp) :\n    Firstly it relies on the fact that most CPU's are mostly idle, X's\n    cpu usage is bursty.  so the chances of you and your teammate\n    doing something cpu-intensive at the same time is small. If they\n    are not then you get twice the cpu+memory available for your\n    action.\n\n    The second factor is that context switches are expensive, using 2\n    cpu's halves them, you pay a price due to the overhead of going\n    over the network, but this is offset in most cases by the improved\n    buffering of a network (typically 20k vs 4k for a pipe), allowing\n    even fewer context switches.\n\n----------------------------\nOther Sources of Information\n----------------------------\n\n  Volume 8 in O'Reilly's X Window System Series, ``X Window System\n  Administrator's Guide'' is a book all X administrator's should read.\n\n  Adrian Nye (adrian@ora.com):\n    A lot more tips on performance are in the paper \"Improving X\n    Application Performance\" by Chris D. Peterson and Sharon Chang, in\n    Issue 3 of The X Resource.\n\n    An earlier version of this paper appeared in the Xhibition 1992\n    conference proceedings.\n\n    This paper is absolutely essential reading for X programmers.\n\n--------------\nAuthor & Notes\n--------------\n  This list is currently maintained by Art Mulder (art@cs.ualberta.ca)\n\n  Suggestions, corrections, or submission for inclusion in this list\n  are gladly accepted.  Layout suggestions and comments (spelling\n  mistak's too! :-) are also welcome.\n\n  Currently I have listed all contributors of the various comments and\n  suggestions.  If you do not want to be credited, please tell me.\n\n  speedup-x-faq is copyright (c) 1993 by Arthur E. Mulder\n\n  You may copy this document in whole or in part as long as you don't\n  try to make money off it, or pretend that you wrote it.\n\n- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nNot sure.  But the number of Israelis killed defending Israel is a little more\nthan 17,000 in the last 45 years and 61,000 injured.\n\nYou must try to make a mockery out of everything, don't you?  Pathetic.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I asked for opinions yesterday on Gateway machines. All\nthe e-mail I received indicated that they were solid,\nreliable machines and technical support was very good.\n\nWell, Gateway faxed me a price sheet just now. It seems\nto be on the higher side, but then again, maybe not.\nDell's price for a similar price is a whole lot more.\nIs this a decent deal? Please advise via email! \n\n\t\t       $DX-33V\n  80486DX 33 MHz\n  Desktop case\n  64K SRAM cache (20 ns)\n  8MB DRAM(70 ns SIMMS) expandable to 64MB\n  1.2 MB and 1.44 Epson diskette drives\n  250 MB Western Digital IDE (13 ms) 17Mb DTR\n  Local Bus IDE interface\n  ATI Ultra Pro VL bus with 1MB VRAM and 24 bit drivers\n  15\" CrystalScan 1572FS color monitor\n  Phoenix BIOS\n  clock\/calendar\n  8 16 bit ISA slots, 2 with 32 bit VESA local bus slots\n  1 parallel and 2 serial ports\n  Intel OverDrive ready; upgradeable to Pentium technology\n  124 key AnyKey programmable keyboard\n  DOS 6.0\/Windows 3.1\/Microsoft Mouse\n  Diagsoft QA plus\n\n  One of Excel, MS Word, Paradox, Project etc.\n\n  All for $2445\n  S & H 95\n\n  An NEC 3FGx minitor upgrade would cost $250 more.\n\n\n  Please advise! \n\n\n  Thanks!\n\n  Vasudev","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"From article <C5n90x.EsJ@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, by gsh7w@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy):\n\n\n\nReally?  I thought that insurance companies hired all of\ntheir actuarial staffs to determine the risks correlated\nwith all groups of people, and that gays are more likely\nto have AIDS than are those of other sexual orientations.\nIf I am wrong about this correlation, please correct me.\n\nMy auto insurance company charges me up the wazoo because\nI am a young male with a very high performance car.  I\nalways thought that this was based on NHTSA and other\nstatistical data, rather than bigotry and hatred for young\nmen with fast cars.  Of course, with the proper government\nintervention, we could force the insurance companies to\npretend that young men with fast cars are just the same\nas everyone else...","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Having had my car die on me(engine fire, insurance agent said\nit was probably totaled), I am in the market for a another vehicle.\nI saw a Toronado that was within my expected price range and was\nwondering if anybody could relate their experiences with me.\n\nNamely:  1.  Does it have accceptable power(it has a 305 in it)?\n\t 2.  Does its being front wheel drive make maintenance difficult?\n\t 3.  One power window and the power seat do not work, are these\n\t\texpensive items to replace if I do the work myself?\n\t 4.  How long do the engines usually last( 90M+ now)?\n\t 5.  Any other experiences good or bad, and opinions.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nI'm sure all the religious types would get in a snit due\nto Asimov's atheism.\n\nDo we have any atheists on stamps now?\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Why would Pollin want to move the Caps, because I think he\nowns the Cap Centre.  I know they don't sell out all of their \ngames, but they draw a lot more than the Bullets.  If you\nhad the situation that Abe had, would you move if you were\nguaranteed that anyone who went to the games would have to \npark at the stadium, because there has been nothing within\na half mile, until the recent construction in\nthe area.\n   Can they win a game in OT again.\n       Rich","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nThere is a known problem with the seals on the taillights of <93 probes.\nComplain loudly to your dealer and get them to install new seals.  It is\na known problem, present on most (if not all) pre-93 Probes, so you \nshouldn't have to pay them to fix it.  In my case, they fixed it on\nmy extended warranty (I just had to pay a $50 deductable) (the\nwork was valued at something like $185 with labor and parts).  Having\nremoved the tail lamps myself on other occasions, I think their estimate\nwas fair.\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nThe killing of the ATF agents is a separate issue.  My point is that many\nchildren died because of Koresh defending himself.  Did he have what you\ncall the \"moral right\" to keep those children in a dangerous enviroment in\norder to defend himself?  \n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I have the following system for sale.\n\n  386DX 25Mhz   (DTK motherboard  Intel microprocessor)\n  64k external cache\n  4 megs Ram\n  89 meg Harddrive    (IDE controller)\n  1.2 meg floppy drive\n  1.44 meg floppy drive\n  2 serial ports\n  1 parallel port\n  Samsung VGA monitor\n  SVGA graphics card  (tseng labs w\/ 1meg) awesome card.\n  101 key keyboard\n  2400 baud internal modem\n\nSoftware:\n  MS-DOS 6.0\n  Procomm Plus  ver. 2.0\n  Norton Utilities  ver. 4.5\n  other various utilities\n\nI'm upgrading and need to sell.  The system is reliable and ready to go.\nI've never had any problems with it.\n\nI'm asking  $1000 o.b.o.\n\nIf you're interested, please respond by either E-mail or phone.\n\nTAE0460@zeus.tamu.edu\nor\n409-696-6043","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\ni think those with 1.6 MR2's would describe the engine as sweet if a\nlittle loud, those with 2.2 MR2's i can't imagine any unbiased person\npaying it any compliments.  sounded like my ex-dormmate's rusty chevy\nchevette.  with the 1.6 i would want to redline it just for the music,\nwith the 2.2 i would short shift so that it would shut up..  the new\ncamry 2.2 features balance shafts.  i guess since the mr2 is getting\nthe axe, it is too late for them to do anything about this..\n\nit is no mystery that the turbo mr2 is \"only\" 2 liters.. the engineers\nhad enough integrity to prevent any further abuses.  also, in europe\nthe MR2 Mk2 non-turbo was also \"only\" 2 liters.. as usual, the\nundiscriminating american market (if it is japanese it *must* be good)\ngets the dogs.. to be fair, we also got the turbo, which the europeans\ndid not.\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nKent, with regards to the information contained in the Bible (which\nis the original context of this thread), Brian Kendig is inside a huge\nwall.  Brian *IS* inside.  The Bible and the information contained therein\nare outside the wall.   Brian Kendig proves this very sad fact by the\nabsurd things he says.  For example, \"If I get through into the firey\npit, I will cease to exist.\"  The Bible doesn't say that.  He hasn't\na clue even to what Jesus said about hell.  That is but one example.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nToo easy.  When you are dragging your pegs while driving in a \nstraight line.\n\nActually I've driven in 50 mph side winds with just a little\ndifficulty.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"In <1ren9a$94q@morrow.stanford.edu> salem@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Bruce Salem) \n\n\n\nThis brings up another something I have never understood.  I asked this once\nbefore and got a few interesting responses, but somehow didn't seem satisfied.\nWhy would the NT NOT be considered a good source.  This might be a \nliterary\/historical question, but when I studied history I always looked for \nfirsthand original sources to write my papers.  If the topic was on Mr. X, I \nlooked to see if Mr. X wrote anything about it.  If the topic was on a group, \nlook for the group, etc.  If the topic is on Mr. X, and Mr. X did not write \nanything about it, (barring the theistic response about the Bible being \ndivinely inspired which I can't adequately argue), wouldn't we look for people\nwho ate, worked, walked, talked, etc. with him?  If someone was at an event \nwouldn't they be a better \"reporter\" than someone who heard about it second \nhand?  I guess isn't firsthand better than second hand.  I know, there is bias,\nand winners writing history, but doesn't the principle of firsthand being best\nstill apply?\n\nMAC\n--\n****************************************************************\n                                                    Michael A. Cobb\n \"...and I won't raise taxes on the middle     University of Illinois\n    class to pay for my programs.\"                 Champaign-Urbana\n          -Bill Clinton 3rd Debate             cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n[...]\n[...]\n\nI believe you are mistaken. I don't believe the AG publishes the\nnumber of state wiretaps.\n\n- Carl\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nKnowing Keith, I expect he'll bring the leather accessories.\n\nBetter oil it well.  Leather cracks when it dries.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"We need terrain data for a visualization research currently taking place\nin Tel-Aviv university. We have two databases that we are currently working\non, but we would like to work on more databases, possibly more complicated \nand ones that will give prettier images.\n\nBefore I describe what kind of data we need, let me mention that we are \ngoing to present a paper titled \"Photo-Realistic Imaging of Digital Terrains\"\nwhich describes the research and the results, in the EUROGRAPHICS'93 \nconference in Barcelona, this september. We are going to show a video-tape \nwith some of our results, so any good data that we will receive will be \npresented in the tape, with a mention of the donator.\n\nWe are working on databases consisting of aerial or satelite photographs, \nand terrain elevation maps (DTM). \nEach database consists of a 2D array of height values (any data format can\nbe used for each value), and a corresponding 2D array of color values (can\nbe gray-level, 256-color value or full 24-bit R\/G\/B values. Other format can\nalso be used). We work on 512X512 and 1024x1024 resolution databases.\n\nIf anybody has access to this kind of data, or knows where we can get such\ndata files, please respond in this news group, or - better - email us\ndirectly :\n\namit@math.tau.ac.il    (Amit Shaked), or\ndanny@indigo.bgu.ac.il (Daniel Cohen)","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nSounds like Darryl being Darryl, Tommy spending too much time on\nSlim Fast and needs a pasta fix, and the media being their usual\n\"charming\" selves.  Sounds like a New York-like story to me!!  :-)\n\nI saw the replay and am wondering what the big deal is?  I didn't\nrealize the folks in LA were making a big to do about it.  I think\nStawberry, Lasorda and the various media types should sit and watch\nthe replay then apologize to the fan.\n\n\nDarryl has not gotten off to a good start, he has to blame someone.\n\n\nAs long as the fan doesn't interfere with the play I see no problems.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Jeffrey L. Cook sez;\n\nLazlo Nibble sez;\n\nActually, paving ground glass over Lichtenstein wouldn't demonstrate the\nstrength of Western Capitalism, since it's strength depends on use of\nthe mind and materials in the fulfillment of needs and desires.  Mind you,\nI'm not saying *no-one* would benefit from glassed-over land, but I don't\nthink anyone would actually pay for it, unlike the (potential) billsats.\n\nI don't quite follow you on the part about someone exposing their genitals\nat parties, but I got a chuckle from it anyway.  And I thought I had some\nstrange friends :-)\n\n-Tommy Mac\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTom McWilliams 517-355-2178 wk   \\ They communicated with the communists,\n18084tm@ibm.cl.msu.edu 336-9591 hm \\ and pacified the pacifists. -TimBuk3","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":" \n(Deletion)\n \nWell, yes, but that belongs in the other group, there is a interpretation\nfound for everything. However, allowing any form of interpretation reduces\nthe information of the text so interprteted to zero.\n \nBy the way, I have checked the quote and I think the lines preceding those\nquoted above are more interesting:\n \n   21:32 where mountains are set on earth in order to immobilize the earth.\n   21:33 where the skies (heavens?) are referred to as well supported.\n \nthe lines given above are  21:34 after my edition.\n \n ","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
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{"text":"I have a fresh stock of S-VHS broadcast master tapes, in album covers, forsale.\nAll unopened and still in plastic. I will sell the lot for $50 (they are worth\naround $75 at Discount Video Warehouse). (Fuji Broadcast master )","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"  Try WinJPEG on oak.oakland.edu:pub\/msdos\/windows3\/winjp210.zip\n  It has more TIFF support than graphics workshop.  It also converts to\n  all the above formats...","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"From article <67@cyberia.win.net>, by johnston@cyberia.win.net (Robert Johnston):\n\nHmmm... I wouldn't consider encryption to be a weapon.  How would the\ngovernment classify encryption?  Seems to me that encryption ought to\nbe covered by the first amendment.   Using this line of reasoning, the\ngovernment shouldn't be able to restrict what data people encrypt and\nwhat encryption algorithms they use because this would be restricting\none's freedom of speech.  In other words, encrypted data---text,\ngraphics, or other information---is just another form of free speech.\nFor this reason the government shouldn't be able to regulate the use\nof encryption algorithms and encrypted data.  The only time the\ngovernment should be able to 'force' someone to reveal his or her\nencryption keys for some encrypted data is when the encrypted data\nin question may be something that isn't protected by the first\namendment such as kiddy porn.  Even in a case like this the\ngovernment should be required to get a search warrant before coercing\nsomeone into revealing the keys.\n\nBTW, what encryption methods are considered to be state-of-the-art\nnowdays.  Have the feds relaxed export restrictions on DES yet?\nAlso, is DES still regarded as a good form of encryption?\n\n\n\nScott Kennedy,  Brewer and Patriot\n\nBefore:  \"David Koresh is a cheap thug who interprets\n          the Bible through the barrel of a gun...\"  --ATF spokesman\nAfter:   \"[The ATF] is a cheap thug who interprets\n          [the Constitution] through the barrel of a gun...\"  --Me","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I recently heard of some testing of a new migraine drug called sumatripton\n(I have no idea of the actual spelling) that supposedly utilizes a chemical\nthat trips neuro-transmitters.  My mother has regular migraines and nothing\nseems to help - does anyone know anything about this new drug?  Is it in\na testing phaze or anywhere near approval?  Does it seem to be working?\n\nAny information would help.\n\nPlease feel free to e-mail rather than take up bandwidth if you prefer.\n\nThanks in advance,\n\n-Rox\n-- \nroxannen@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nThe Apocryphal books that are in the Septuagint were part of the canon \nused by the Greek-speaking churches from the inception of the church.\nThey were not added later (or much later).  This is a common misconception.\n\nThe preference of the Hebrew canon over the Greek canon is a later\ninnovation.   The church did not need to be guided to \"add\" the books\nsince they were part of the faith once received by the apostles and\npassed to the Church.\n\nLarry Overacker (llo@shell.com)\n-- ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I am having a really bothersome problem using the MSDOS prompt in Windows 3.1\nto open a dos box.  When I am done with the dos box, I cant get back to windows.\nIf I do Alt enter to shrink the box or use 'exit' to close it, the screen goes\nblack and I have to control-alt-delete until I kill windows.  I get a couple\nof screens about app not responding.\n\nI think things are still alive under the black screen because if I alt-tab\nto cycle through the running apps, I get flashes of text but then the\nblack returns.\n\nThis persists even if the machine is powered on and off.\n\nI am working with an app developed using Borland's 3.1 application frameworks\nand c++.  It seems to work fine.\n\nHardware is a 486 with 16meg ram; not on a network.  Video is a TSENG \nvga.  dos 5.0.\n\nI reinstalled windows a couple of time but the problem comes back.  I am\nusing temporary swapping for virtual memory.\n\nI would really REALLY appreciate any hints anyone might offer.\n\nThanks,","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
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{"text":"NL:\n\nChicago Wait Til Next Years\nNew York Bunch of Egos With no Chemistrys\nPhiledelphia Overacheivers Until Mitch Williams Blows Games\nPittsburg CHeapskates\nMontreal Canadiens (love that name!)\nSt. Louis Cardinals (how boring!)\nMiami Marlins (try telling Tampa-StPete that the Marlins are Florida's)\n\nSan Diego She's Going DOwn Men and Children Firsters\nLos Angeles Disables Listers\nSan Francisco Get Past Number Five and You Are Fines\nCincinatti Underacheivers\nAtlanta Bills\nColorado Pitching is 10% of Baseballers\nHouston Astonomicals\n\nAL:\n\nNew York Steinbrenners\nBoston Wow, We're In Firsters\nCleveland Good Hit No PItchers\nDetroit Lions (Hey, they score 20 every game also!)\nToronto God Does Jack Morris Stinkers\nBaltimore We Have a Great Park and a Bankrupt Owners\nMilwaukee Don't Drink the Water Drink the Beer Insteaders\n\nKansas City Oh God Not Againers\nOakland Gezz Did the Eck Blow a Saves\nTexas Bashers\nCalifornia We Won't Win But We'll Sure As Hell Tryers\nSeattle Griffeys\nChicago We''l Find A Way to Lose Agains\nMinnesota Marshmallow Domers\n\n \n--\nmsilverm@nyx.cs.du.edu\t\t\t\tGO CUBS!!!","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\t...or centerstands, or weasel squeezers, or ....\n\nLater,","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Does anyone know how posionous centipedes and millipedes are? If someone\nwas bitten, how soon would medical treatment be needed, and what would\nbe liable to happen to the person?\n\n(Just for clarification - I have NOT been bitten by one of these,  but my\nhouse seems to be infested, and I want to know 'just in case'.)","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nAlthough I don't want to muddy the waters unnecessarily I disagree. Any\ndiscrimination based on religion is not and cannot be racist unless the\nsole qualification for religious membership is racial. This is not the\ncase for Israel although it might get a little closer than, say, Islam.\nThis of course raises the vexed question of Church AntiSemitism. Jews\nhave been heavily discriminated against on the grounds of religion in\nmany Christian countries. If we take Russia as an example Jews were\nseriously persecuted but that persecution in the eyes of the Church\nand State stopped at the baptismal font. Officially anyway. If a Jew\nconverted there were no legal barriers in his way (that I know of anyway.)\nPeter the Great's Interior Minister came from such a convert background.\nCan we then claim that the Russian Orthodox did not teach AntiSemitism\nand was not AntiSemitic? Similarly for the Roman Catholic Church? I\nsuspect so as this is not a racial 'taint' but one based on belief\nand AS is after all a form of racism. Well maybe not. What is\nAntiSemitism then if not something racially based? I wonder if Hitler\nkilled converts of 'pure' German blood. Does anyone know one way or\nthe other?\n\nJoseph Askew\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"This request goes out to medical students who have done\nor are planning to sit the USMLE (or National Boards) Part 1.\n\nMy wife is sitting this examination in early June this year and would\nlike to have a look at some old National Boards, Part 1 questions\nfound in the following books. These books are currently out of print.\n \n\nThe books are:\n\n(1) Retired NBME Basic Medical Science Test Items, NBME;\n    Published by NBME in 1991\n\n(2) Self-test in the Part 1 Basic Medical Sciences, NBME;\n    Published by NBME in 1989\n\nI would appreciate if anyone who has these books is willing\nto loan it to her for a couple of days. Obviously, I would\nreimburse for you all postage and related charges. Failing\nthat it would be beneficial if anyone could point to any\nlibrary in the NY, NJ or PA area that may have these books.\n\nPlease respond by e-mail since I do not read this newsgroup\nregularly.\n\nThanks in advance.\n\n\nDaniel\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"You can get a NEW newer model for a cheaper price thru mail order....","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Wanted:\n\n\tDigidesgn Audiomedia Card for the Mac\n\tEmail if you have one for sale.\n\nThanks","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Wouldn't this method be vulnerable against a \"birthday\" attack?\nCurrently a cracker needs to find the _only_ (*1) key that produces\nthe given ciphertext.  He has to try about 2^63 keys on the average.\nIn the proposed method the cracker only needs _any pair_ of key halves.\nIf he can store about 2^32 guesses for one half, he is likely to find\na mathching pair in about 2^32 guesses.  (Here I have assumed that the\nDES-encryption is reversable, if the key is guessed.  Is this so or do\nthe modifications of the S-boxes by the salt bits make it non-reversable?)","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nI don't think any of the suspects were Americans. Consequently, they could\nnot be Arab-Americans. ","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Wanted: Summer sublet in NW DC, on red Metro line. Have own bedroom, but can\n        share common areas with others.  Apartment or room for $400 or less.\n        Move in Memorial Day weekend through end of August.  No smokers.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I have a certificate for one round-trip airfares to either Orlando,\nLas Vegas and Reno\/Lake Tahoe.\nExpiration date is one year from now.\n\nThe maximum retail value, depending on time and location, is estimated\nat $2000 for all three locations, including accommodation for 3 days\nand 2 nights at a leading hotel. I am asking for $1800 or best offer.\n\nPurchase of tickets for a single location is possible.\n\nFor more information, call Goh at\n\n(415) 497-0663\n\nor send mail to\n\nkmgoh@leland.stanford.edu","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nWelcome.\n\n\nHm. I get a little queasy around the phrase \"aren't morally \nresponsible\", perhaps because I've heard it misused so many times.\n(I remember in college some folk trying to argue that a person who\nwas drunk was not morally responsible for his actions.) In general,\nmost folk can't control their dreams, but perhaps what you do all day\nand think about has some impact on them, hm? And I'm not sure what\n\"actions\" are in a dream. But I will note that Jesus does seem adamant\nabout the fact that our thought-life is at least as important as\nour actions. Go lightly with this argument - we are all morally\nresponsible for *who we are* and dreams might well be an important\npart of that.\n\nI don't know a thing about Out Of Body Experiences. I've had dreams, some\nfairly vivid ones; is an OOBE just a very vivid dream? I would argue that\nextreme interest in this sort of phenomena is a tad risky; it is probably\nmuch better to think about who Jesus is, and who we are in relation to that,\nthan to cultivate a strong interest in dreams. Unless you feel plagued by\ndreams that are painful and out of control; then pray about it and\/or get help.\n\nWhat on Earth is your definition of \"often\"? I know exactly one case of\ntwo people who had substantially the same dream at the same time, and\nas they were brothers who had spent the day doing the same things I could\nsee why their dreams might be similiar. Anyway, the only \"other plane\" I\nknow of is the spiritual realm. I don't think *anyone's* dreams,\nperhaps outside the occasional prophet's, represent actual actions on an\nalternate plane. If they were real actions, or conscious thoughts, then\nyes they would have direct moral significance.\n\nin a different environment, then different moral laws apply\" is my guess of\nwhat you said.]\nI don't see the slightest hint in Christian writings that ones \"environment\"\nchanges the way a person determines what is moral. For a Christian won't\nit *always* come down to \"what Jesus would have us do?\"\n\nTruth? I don't claim to be an expert in dreams. I'll note that the Bible\ndoesn't talk much about dreams outside of the realm of God using them to speak\nto us, with the caveat that such messages are not always very clear, as it\nwarns somewhere in the OT. Given that, I would not give them a lot of\nattention unless you feel your dreams are trying to tell you something.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n   The Catholic doctrine of predestination does not exclude free will in\nany way.  Since God knows everything, He therefore knows everything that\nis going to happen to us.  We have free will, and are able to change\nwhat happens to us.  However, since God knows everything, He knows all\nthe choices we will make \"in advance\" (God is not subject to time).  Too\noften arguments pit predestination against free will.  We believe in\nboth.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Any one with experience in having a centreforce clutch (or any other)\non his\/her car?\nI'm considering to replace my old stock clutch on my 90 CRX Si.\nWhat is a fair price?","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Has anybody heard about a thing called a MacWatch? I saw it on TV a\ncouple of years ago, it is a watch with a reviever and a transmitter for\nyour mac. The practical upshot is that your Mac can page your watch and\ndisplay a small message. My flatmate is off to the states for a week or\ntwo soon and I am interested in getting one. Any info would be\nappreciated.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n  It wasn't that the Lawson's V&H OWO1 was faster.  If you watch the tape\nagain, Russell had major backmarker problems before getting onto the banking.\nIt doesn't matter what bike you have, if you lose your drive, your hosed.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nThe DeLorean had the yucky PRV V6 engine. A joint-venture between Peugout (note \nspelling), Renault and Volvo. PRV. This engine is a *MIGHTY BORING* piece of\njunk with approx 140hp. Doesn't like revs at all.\n\nIf you look at the DeLorean in the movie Back To the Future you will note\nthat they changed the engine sound to a big V8. A real DeLorean doesn't sounds\nhalf as good. You will also note that every time they have to spin the tires\nin the movie the ground is all wet. This is because a DeLorean can't make\na burnout on a dry road! The weak engine thats mounted over the rear axle\nmakes it almost impossible.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"[ Question about packet radio deleted ]\n\nHow about rec.radio.amateur.packet?  At least at my site, there is no\ngeneral packet radio (i.e. non-amateur) newsgroup.\n\nThat said, I would definately subscribe to r.r.a.packet if you want to\nlearn about all aspects of amateur packet radio, at both the high and\nlow ends.  Also, I would get the FAQ from the group, and then post any\nspecific questions to that group.  Everything I could tell you is \nprobably in the FAQ, and the people who really know what's going on all\nseem to be on r.r.a.packet (although they might be here too, you never know :)\n\nHope it helps...","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nIt is heavy, the 91 is mid 600's dry, that is the one major drawback\nof the ST.\n\n\nCan you say \" tourque monster\" The test drive sold me on the bike, \nlot's of bite anywhere above 2500 in any gear.\n\n\nDid you trythe ABS\/TCS version? \n\n\nAfter market fairing windshield for 100.00 raises the bubble 6 inches\nabove most heads, but hurts the looks of the bike.\n\n\nThis is the essence of the bike, move the throttle and itr accelerates \nany gear anywhere anytime, I frequently find myself at the DOD min \nduring a casual passing maneuver.\n\nThis is a function of the weight, you have to be aggresive with the brake\nsqueze, actually as tested by Cycle world and an expert rider the ST\nstopped faster then the comparable models from BMW, and YAMAHA even with \nthe extra weight and Gas .\n\nYou must countersteer the ST for every turn and movement short\nof the classic pothole wiggle. Just forget ever leaning into a \nturn again. It must be countersteered into every turn and then \nresponds nicely.\n\n\nFaster then I've ever gone, I 'd hate to buy this bike after your \nshort \"break in period\"\n\n\n\nNot true, the side stand is well designed for the weight and will hold \nthe bike nicely on dirt. I am able to easily get the bike up on\nthe center stand, just step down on the stand instead of pulling\nup on the bike.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Greetings!\n\n                Sorry for the typos.\n                clipper hooks.\n                                                      Al\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"In the article \"At last! Now you can talk to your computer.\" in the May\nissue of FORTUNE magazine, it was mentioned that phoneme prediction\nused Hidden Markov Modeling.  This was the statistical method that Markov\ndeveloped to predict letter sequences in Pushkin's novel, _Eugene Onegin_.\nIt was then said that this technique worked so well that the NSA used\nit to crack codes.\nDoes anyone have any references for HMM and how the NSA used it?\nOr is this just an extension of the letter frequency tables that we\nare all using anyway?","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"=>Yup.  The demonstration to which you refer consists of placing a leaf between\n=>the plates, and taking a Kirlian photograph of it.  You then cut off part of\n=>the leaf, put the top plate back on, and take another Kirlian photograph.  You\n=>see pretty much the same image in both cases.  Turns out the effect isn't\n=>nearly so striking if you take the trouble to clean the plates between\n=>photographs.  Seems that the moisture from the leaf that you left on the place\n=>conducts electricity.  Surprise, surprise!\n=\n=\tThis is true, but it's not quite the whole story.  There were \n=\tactually some people who were more careful in their methodology\n=\twho also replicated the 'phantom leaf effect.'\n\nYou can also replicate the effect with a rock:  Take your first Kirlian\nphotograph.  Then moisten one edge of the rock.  Lo! and behold!  Phantom rock!\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nCarl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI\/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":": > Does anyone know of any studies done on the long-term health effects of a\n: > man's vasectomy on his female partner?\n: > \n: > ...\n: I've heard of NO studies, but speculation:\n\n: Why on _earth_ would there be any effect on women's health?  That's about \n: the most absurd idea I've heard since Ted Kaldis's claim that no more than \n: 35,000 people would march on Washington.\n\n: Ok, _one_ point:  Greatly reduced chance of pregnancy.  But that's it.\n\n: --Josh\n\nWell, there might be another: Since I'm sterile my wife can enjoy sex \nwithout fear of getting pregnant.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI was wondering this myself.\n\n\n\n\n\nUnfortunately it does.  I don't agree with the logic of NT at an X windows\nconference.  Perhaps some good will come of it, but the two are so dissimilar\nand the NT marketing stuff is so large in the Xhibition adds that I was \ncoming to a similar conclusion as Jesse...\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nI always use the following in my .[t]cshrc:\n\n...\nf ( $?LOGIN == 0 ) then\n   source $home\/.login\nendif\n...\n\nand in .login:\n\n...\nsetenv LOGIN 1\n...\n\nSo I don't need to set all environment variables in my .cshrc, but they get\nset if I login via xdm or xon | xrsh | rx and so on.\n\nHope this helps,\n\nBernward","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nThanks for the enlightening post.  Is there a Technical Note on this?\n\nThe desktop machine I was referring to was actually not a Mac,\nbut rather, any of various workstations that use the\n68030@25MHz, such as old Suns or old NeXTs.  I used to own a NeXT\n68030 cube.   \n\nBut I will try rebooting without extensions to see what kind of\na speed difference I get with my powerbook Duo. I did notice an\nextreme slowdown to unusability with a Mac Plus after\ninstalling system 7 on it.  Why does the OS suck up so much CPU\npower? \n\nAlso, you're right--software does make a HUGE difference.  I\nhave the misfortune of using MS-Works on my Duo.  When editing\nrelatively small (40K) files, cut or copy takes several\nseconds, often more than 6 seconds!!  This happens with power\ncycling turned off.  As usual, MS software is maggot-infested\nfeces. \nI'm getting Nisus to replace it for my text editing.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nYou can't think of any valid reason to own a gun that can't wait?\n\nEither you have a very limited imagination or a strange definition of\nthe word \"valid\".\n\nHere are a few reasons you might want a gun *right now*:\n\nYou're a Korean greengrocer in LA and a riot has just started in a\nnearby neighborhood.\n\nYou've received a death threat.\n\nYour SO has just broken your arm and you fear for your life if you\nstay with him and he's said he'll kill you if you leave him.\n\nA psychopath is breaking into people's houses in your neighborhood and\nrobbing and killing people inside.\n\nA violent mugger is operating on the route you have to take to get to\nyour night job.\n\nThere are lots of dangers you might be in that won't wait for the\nwaiting period for you to purchase a gun.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"[continuing with Dr. DeYoung's article-]\n \n               SURVEY OF NEW INTERPRETATIONS OF ARSENOKOITAI\n\nD.S. Bailey\n\n     D.S. Bailey was perhaps the trailblazer of new assessments of the meaning\nof arsenokoitai.  He takes the term in I Cor 6:9 as denoting males who actively\nengage in homosexual acts, in contrast to malakoi (\"effeminate\"), those who\nengage passively in such acts.*4   However, he insists that Paul knew nothing\nof \"inversion as an inherited trait, or an inherent condition due to\npsychological or glandular causes, and consequently regards all homosexual\npractice as evidence of perversion\" (38).  Hence Bailey limits the term's\nreference in Paul's works to acts alone and laments modern translations of the\nterm as \"homosexuals.\"  Bailey wants to distinguish between \"the homosexual\n*condition* (which is morally neutral) and homosexual *practices*\" [italics in\nsource].  Paul is precise in his terminology and Moffatt's translation\n\"sodomites\" best represents Paul's meaning in Bailey's judgment (39).  Bailey\nclearly denies that the homosexual condition was known by biblical writers.\n\nJ. Boswell\n\n     The most influential study of arsenokoitai among contemporary authors is\nthat of John Boswell.*5    Whereas the usual translation*6  of this term gives\nit either explicitly or implicitly an active sense, Boswell gives it a passive\nsense.\n\n      In an extended discussion of the term (341-53), he cites \"linguistic\nevidence and common sense\" to support his conclusion that the word means \"male\nsexual agents, i.e. active male prostitutes.\"  His argument is that the arseno-\npart of the word is adjectival, not the object of the koitai which refers to\nbase sexual activity.  Hence the term, according to Boswell, designates a male\nsexual person or male prostitute.  He acknowledges, however, that most\ninterpret the composite term as active, meaning \"those who sleep with, make\ntheir bed with, men.\"  Boswell bases his interpretation on linguistics and the\nhistorical setting.  He argues that in some compounds, such as paidomathes\n(\"child learner\"), the paido- is the subject of manthano, and in others, such\nas paidoporos (\"through which a child passes\"), the paido- is neither subject\nnor object but simply a modifier without verbal significance.  His point is\nthat each compound must be individually analyzed for its meaning.  More\ndirectly, he maintains that compounds with the Attic form arreno- employ it\nobjectively while those with the Hellenistic arseno- use it as an adjective\n(343).  Yet he admits exceptions to this distinction regarding arreno-.\n\n     Boswell next appeals to the Latin of the time, namely drauci or exoleti. \nThese were male prostitutes having men or women as their objects.  The Greek\narsenokoitai is the equivalent of the Latin drauci;  the corresponding passive\nwould be parakoitai (\"one who lies beside\"), Boswell affirms.  He claims that\narsenokoitai was the \"most explicit word available to Paul for a male\nprostitute,\" since by Paul's time the Attic words pornos (\"fornicator\") and\nporneuon (\"one committing fornication\"), found also in the LXX, had been\nadopted \"to refer to men who resorted to female prostitutes or simply committed\nfornication.\"*7\n\n     In the absence of the term from pagan writers such as Herodotus, Plato,\nAristotle, and Plutarch, and from the Jewish writers Philo and Josephus,\nBoswell finds even more convincing evidence for his affirmation that\narsenokoitai \"did not connote 'homosexual' or even 'sodomite' in the time of\nPaul\" (346).*8   He also demonstrates its absence in Pseudo-Lucian, Sextus\nEmpiricus, and Libanius.  He subsequently finds it lacking in \"all discussions\nof homosexual relation\" (346)*9  among Christian sources in Greek, including\nthe Didache, Tatian, Justin Martyr, Eusebius,*10    Clement of Alexandria,\nGregory of Nyssa, and John Chrysostom.  Chrysostom is singled out for his\nomission as \"final proof\" that the word could not mean homosexuality.*11 \n\n     Boswell next appeals to the omission of the texts of I Cor and I Tim from\ndiscussions of homosexuality among Latin church fathers (348).*12   Cited are\nTertullian, Arnobius, Lactantius, and Augustine.  The last named uses\n\"circumlocutions.\"  Other Latin writers include Ausonius, Cyprian, and Minucius\nFelix.  The term is also lacking in state and in church legislation.  By the\nsixth century the term became confused and was applied to a variety of sexual\nactivities from child molesting to anal intercourse between a husband and wife\n(353).\n\n     Having surveyed the sources, Boswell concludes, \n\n   There is no reason to believe that either arsenokoitai or malakoi connoted\n   homosexuality in the time of Paul or for centuries thereafter, and every\nreason\n   to suppose that, whatever they came to mean, they were not determinative of\n   Christian opinion on the morality of homosexual acts (353).\n\nIt is clear throughout that Boswell defines arsenokoitai to refer to male\nprostitutes.  He even goes so far as to conclude that Paul would probably not\ndisapprove of \"gay inclination,\"  \"gay relationships,\"  \"enduring love between\npersons of the same gender,\" or \"same-sex eroticism\"  (112, 166-17).\n\n\n________________________________________________________\n4.  D.S. Bailey,  Homosexuality and the Western Christian Tradition. (London:\n1975) 38.\n5.  J.  Boswell, Christianity,  Social Tolerance and Homosexuality (Chicago:\n1980).\n6.  Several tranlation of I Tim 1:10 are:  KJV, \"them that defile themselves\nwith mankind\";  ASV,  \"Abusers of themselves with men\";  NASB,  \"homosexuals\";\nRSV, NKJV, NRSV, \"sodomites\";  NEB, NIV, \"perverts\"; GNB, \"sexual perverts\"; In\nI COr 6:9 these occur:  KJV, \"abusers of themselves with mankind\"; ASV,\n\"Abusers of themselves with men\";  NASB, RSV, \"homosexuals\"; NKJV, \"sodomites\";\n NEB, \"homosexual persversion.\"  The RSV and NEB derive their translation from\ntwo Greek words, malakoi and arsenokoitai which GBN has as \"homosexual\nperverts.\"  NRSV has the two words as \"male prostitutes\" in the text, and\n\"sodomites\" in the footnote.  The active idea predominates among the\ncommentators as well;  it is the primary assumption.\n7.  Boswell, Christianity 344.  Yet this was no a word \"available to Paul for a\nmale prostitute,\" for it does not occur at all in any literature prior to Paul\n(as a serach in the Thesaurus Linguae Graecae using IBYCUC confirms).  If Paul\ncoined the term, it would have no prior history, and all such discussion about\nits lack of usage in contemporary non-Christian and Christian literature is\nmeaningless.\n8.  Again this would be expected if Paul coined the word.\n9.  The key phrase here apparently is \"discussoin,\" for Boswell admits later\n(350 n.42) that it occurs in quotes of Paul but there is no discussion in the\ncontext.  Hence the implication is that we cannot tell what these writer\n(Polycarp \"To the Philippian 5:3\"; Theophilus \"Ad Autolycum 1.2, 2.14\";Nilus\n\"Epistularum libri quattuor 2.282\";  Cyril of Alexandria \"Homiliae diversae\n14\"; \"Sybilline Oravle 2.13\") meant.  Yet Polycarp, who was a disiple of Hohn\nthe Apostle and died about A.D. 155, argues in the context that young men\nshould be pure.  He uses only the three terms pornoi, malakoi, and arsenokoitai\nfrom Paul's list.  This at least makes Boswell's use of \"all\" subjective. \nApparently Clement of Alexandria \"Paedogogus 3.11\"; Sromata 3.18\"; also belong\nhere.\n\n10..  Yet Eusebius uses it in \"Demonstraionis evangelicae 1.\"\n11.  Either Boswell is misrepresenting the facts about Chrysostom's use of\narsenokoitai and its form (about 20) in the vice lists of I Cor 6 or I Tim 1,\nor he is begging the question by denying that the word can mean homosexual when\nChrysostom uses it.  Yet the meaning of arsenokoitai is the goal of his and our\nstudy, whether in the lists or other discussions.  Boswell later admits (351)\nthat Chrysostom uses the almost identicl form arsenokoitos in his commentary on\nI Cor.  Although Boswell suggests that the passage is strange, it may be that\nPaul is seeking to make a refinement in arsenokoitai.  \n12.  Apparently Jerome is a significant omission here, since he renders\narsenokoitai as \"masculorum concubitores,\" corresponding \"almost exactly to the\nGreek\" (348 n.36).\n\nfootnotes:\n_______________________\n 5.  D.S. Bailey,  Homosexuality and the Western Christian Tradition. (London:\n1975) 38.\n 6.  J.  Boswell, Christianity,  Social Tolerance and Homosexuality (Chicago:\n1980).\n   Several tranlation of I Tim 1:10 are:  KJV, \"them that defile themselves\nwith mankind\";  ASV,  \"Abusers of themselves with men\";  NASB,  \"homosexuals\";\nRSV, NKJV, NRSV, \"sodomites\";  NEB, NIV, \"perverts\"; GNB, \"sexual perverts\"; In\nI COr 6:9 these occur:  KJV, \"abusers of themselves with mankind\"; ASV,\n\"Abusers of themselves with men\";  NASB, RSV, \"homosexuals\"; NKJV, \"sodomites\";\n NEB, \"homosexual persversion.\"  The RSV and NEB derive their translation from\ntwo Greek words, malakoi and arsenokoitai which GBN has as \"homosexual\nperverts.\"  NRSV has the two words as \"male prostitutes\" in the text, and\n\"sodomites\" in the footnote.  The active idea predominates among the\ncommentators as well;  it is the primary assumption.\n 7.  Boswell, Christianity 344.  Yet this was no a word \"available to Paul for\na male prostitute,\" for it does not occur at all in any literature prior to\nPaul (as a serach in the Thesaurus Linguae Graecae using IBYCUC confirms).  If\nPaul coined the term, it would have no prior history, and all such discussion\nabout its lack of usage in contemporary non-Christian and Christian literature\nis meaningless.\n 8.  Again this would be expected if Paul coined the word.\n 9.  The key phrase here apparently is \"discussoin,\" for Boswell admits later\n(350 n.42) that it occurs in quotes of Paul but there is no discussion in the\ncontext.  Hence the implication is that we cannot tell what these writer\n(Polycarp \"To the Philippian 5:3\"; Theophilus \"Ad Autolycum 1.2, 2.14\";Nilus\n\"Epistularum libri quattuor 2.282\";  Cyril of Alexandria \"Homiliae diversae\n14\"; \"Sybilline Oravle 2.13\") meant.  Yet Polycarp, who was a disiple of Hohn\nthe Apostle and died about A.D. 155, argues in the context that young men\nshould be pure.  He uses only the three terms pornoi, malakoi, and arsenokoitai\nfrom Paul's list.  This at least makes Boswell's use of \"all\" subjective. \nApparently Clement of Alexandria \"Paedogogus 3.11\"; Sromata 3.18\"; also belong\nhere.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI'm not an expert, but having spent much too much of my life looking for\nthe power switch, or the brightness control, or the de-gauss, etc., etc.,\netc. it is my firm belief that the only reason any\ncontrols\/switches\/knobs\/whatever in places where they are hard to reach is\nbecause the designers put them there deliberately.\n\nThe real question is weather this is because of stupidity, or\nmaliciousness.\n\n--","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nYou could, but it would be considerably cheaper to spend $8 or so on\na trickle charger from K-Mart, Venture, or Target, then it would be\nto replace the halogen lamp power supply after you fuse it trying to\npump current into the battery...\n\nWhile charging, the charger should be putting out around 14 or 15 volts\nas well...","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Items for sale.....\n\nNishika 3D camera\tIt takes very good picture, never been opended\n\t\t\tor used. It came with wide angle flesh, carring\n\t\t\tcase, film, and a instruction video. It has four\n\t\t\tlens and created a 3D effect on a regular 35mm\n\t\t\tfilm.\n\nJewelry\t\t\tIt came with the package as additional gift.\n\nBahama vacation voucher\tThe voucher is good for two RT airfare to Freeport.\n\t\t\tThe users get a special hotel rate of $27 per-person\n\t\t\tper-night. Meals, ground transfer, hotel tax is\n\t\t\t_not_ included.\n\nLas Vegas, Reno, Orlando\tThe voucher provides one RT airfare, and\n\t\t\t\thotel accomodation for 3 days\/ 2 nights.\n\t\t\t\tMeals, ground transfer, hotel tax is not\n\t\t\t\tincluded. The voucher is good for all 3\n\t\t\t\tlocations, but you can't travel to all 3\n\t\t\t\tplaces at once.\n\nCancun, Mexico\t\tThe voucher provides one RT airfare, and hotel\n\t\t\taccomodation for 3 days \/ 2 nights. Meals and\n\t\t\tground transfer, hotel tax is not included as\n\t\t\tusual.\n\n\nAsking for $500 or best offer...\n\nI paid $697 for the whole package. And it is too late for me to get the \nrefund. I would sell it for $500 for the whole package. Details could be \nprovided by request. I do wish to sell the whole package at once. So if \nyou are just looking for the vacation vouchers, I don't care if you \nsell the camera to other for a higher price. If you are interested in \nthe camera, you could treat the vacation vouchers as gift.\n\nSome of you might receive a letter in your mail box which says that you \nare selected to be part of the sweeptake and you have at least one out \nof five awards. Trust me, you would get the exactly the same package as \nI did. There is only one award which will be given away. So don't \nbother even to call them back, if you are really interested, you could \nget it from me for a cheaper price. And you could receive the package \nwithin a week ( I waited three months to get my first and final packages). \nAlso, they would ask for your credit card number and you have to pay \nfor the interest to the credit card company. So why spend more than you\nshould when you could get them from me for a cheaper price.\n\nIf you are interested, please reply to me as soon as posible. I really\nwish to get this over with. Make me an offer, if I am confortable with\nyour offer, I would send the package by U.P.S. the next day morning.\nMore details could be given if you wish.\n\nPlease contact me at koutd@hirama.hiram.edu","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nIf everything I've read is correct, Ford is doing nothing but \"re-\nskinning\" the existing Mustang, with MINOR suspension modifications.\nAnd the pictures I've seen indicate they didn't do a very good job\nof it.  \n\nThe \"new\" mustang, is nothing but a re-cycle of a 20 year old car.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Hello,\n \nI've been on the DKBtrace\/PoVray mailing list out of trearn.bitnet\nfor some time now, but when I tried to post the other day the\nlistserv told me that the list doesn't exist!  So I got a global\nlist of groups from the listserv and - - NOTHING!  I grepped every\nstring I could think of.  If Frank, Ville Saari, Andre Beck, or anyone\nelse who's a regular on DKB-L can tell me what is going on, please do!\n \nRegards,","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nDB-25\tDB-9\nPin #\tPin #\tName\tEIA\tCCITT\tDTE-DCE\tDescription\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n 1\t\tFG\tAA\t 101\t  ----\tFrame ground\n 2\t3\tTD\tBA\t 103\t  --->\tTransmitted data\n 3\t2\tRD\tBB\t 104\t  <---\tReceived data\n 4\t7\tRTS\tCA\t 105\t  --->\tRequest to send\n 5\t8\tCTS\tCB\t 106\t  <---\tClear to send\n 6\t6\tDSR\tCC\t 107\t  <---\tData set ready\n 7\t5\tSG\tAB\t 102\t  ----\tSignal ground\n 8\t1\tDCD\tCF\t 109\t  <---\tData carrier detect\n 9\t\t--\t--\t  -\t    -\tPositive DC test voltage\n10\t\t--\t--\t  -\t    -\tNegative DC test voltage\n11\t\tQM\t--\t  -\t  <---\tEqualizer mode\n12\t\tSDCD\tSCF\t 122\t  <---\tSecondary data carrier detect\n13\t\tSCTS\tSCB\t 121\t  <---\tSecondary clear to send\n14\t\tSTD\tSBA\t 118\t  --->\tSecondary transmitted data\n15\t\tTC\tDB\t 114\t  <---\tTransmitter clock\n16\t\tSRD\tSBB\t 119\t  <---\tSecondary receiver clock\n17\t\tRC\tDD\t 115\t  --->\tReceiver clock\n18\t\tDCR\t--\t  -\t  <---\tDivided clock receiver\n19\t\tSRTS\tSCA\t 120\t  --->\tSecondary request to send\n20\t4\tDTR\tCD\t 108.2\t  --->\tData terminal ready\n21\t\tSQ\tCG\t 110\t  <---\tSignal quality\n22\t9\tRI\tCE\t 125\t  <---\tRing indicator\n23\t\t--\tCH\t 111\t  --->\tData rate selector\n24\t\t--\tCI\t 112\t  <---\tData rate selector\n25\t\tTC\tDA\t 113\t  <---\tTransmitted clock\n\n.-.-.- from another posting in c.s.i.p.h .-.-.-\n.-.-.- sorry, don't know the author .-.-.-.-.-.\nConnecting devices\n------------------\n \n  Normally, a 7 wire connection is used. Connect:\n        GND1    to    GND2\n\tRxD1    to    TxD2\n\tTxD1    to    RxD2\n\tDTR1    to    DSR2\n\tDSR1    to    DTR2\n\tRTS1    to    CTS2\n\tCTS1    to    RTS2\n  If a modem is connected, add lines for the following:\n        RI, DCD\n  If software wants it, connect DCD1 to CTS1 and DCD2 to CTS2.\n  BEWARE! While PCs use pin 2 for RxD and pin 3 for TxD, modems normally\nhave those pins reversed! This allows to easily connect pin1 to pin1, pin2\nto pin 2 etc. If you connect two PCs, cross RxD and TxD.\n \n  If hardware handshaking is not needed, a so-called null-modem connection\ncan be used. Connect:\n        GND1    to    GND2\n\tRxD1    to    TxD2\n\tTxD1    to    RxD2\nAdditionally, connect (if software needs it):\n        RTS1    to    CTS1 & DCD1\n\tRTS2    to    CTS2 & DCD2\n\tDTR1    to    DSR1\n\tDTR2    to    DSR2\nYou won't need long wires for these!\n  The null-modem connection is used to establish an XON\/XOFF-transmission\nbetween two PCs (see software section for details).\n  Remember: the names DTR, DSR, CTS & RTS refer to the lines as seen from\nthe PC. This means that for your data set DTR & RTS are incoming signals\nand DSR & CTS are outputs!\n.-.-.-.- end .-.-.- \n\nMichael","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"2-The-Max VESA VL video controller\/ Cirus Logic chipset\n\n(2Mb ram, 24-bit color, 1280x1024 NI)\n\n\nDoes XFree1.2 (or 2.0) support this card?\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Turkish Historical Revision in auto-scribal residue <9305091835@zuma.UUCP>, \nsera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic), posted the following:\n\n[(*] Source: \"Adventures in the Near East\" by A. Rawlinson, Jonathan Cape, \n[(*] 30 Bedford Square, London, 1934 (First published 1923) (287 pages).\n[(*] (Memoirs of a British officer who witnessed the Armenian genocide of 2.5 \n[(*] million Muslim people)\n\nBull!\n\n[(*] p. 184 (second paragraph)\n[(*]\n[(*] \"I had received further very definite information of horrors that\n[(*]  had been committed by the Armenian soldiery in Kars Plain, and as \n[(*]  I had been able to judge of their want of discipline by their \n[(*]  treatment of my own detached parties, I had wired to Tiflis from \n[(*]  Zivin that 'in the interests of humanity the Armenians should not \n[(*]  be left in independent command of the Moslem population, as, their \n[(*]  troops being without discipline and not under effective control, \n[(*]  atrocities were constantly being committed, for which we should \n[(*]  with justice eventually be held to be morally responsible'.\"\n\nOn page 184 in my copy of the Rawlinson book, we find following facsimile.\nNote the word Armenian doesn't even appear!\n\n184 ADVENTURES IN THE NEAR EAST\n\ndisposal for our journey, I foresaw it would have to become\nour headquarters for a considerable time, and therefore went\nto some trouble to make it habitable. We had a most peculiar\nlittle locomotive, originally built in America for the Russian\nGovernment, adapted to burn either wood or oil; one covered\ntruck as men's quarters; one similar, which I fitted up for my-\nself and a railway officer; and also a truck to carry wood, three\ncars being the utmost our small engine could pull. With this\nsmall outfit we started, rumours of all kinds reaching us before\nour departure indicating that the whole situation was rapidly\ncoming to a head, it being evident that the Turks were becoming~\nmore and more restive in the face of the inexplicable delay of\nthe Allies in reaching any definite decision with regard to the\nfuture.\n\nTravelling on this little \"war-time\" railway was indeed an\nexperience, and it was necessary to carry a \"gauge,\" and to\ntest the rails with it frequently, for in many places, owing to\nthe sinking of the embankments and the washing away of the\nballast, the rails required rectification before we were able to\nget our train over, even at a foot pace; each bridge also re-\nquired elaborate examination before adventuring the train upon\nit, and eventually we were obliged to carry large baulks of tim-\nber to temporarily shore up many of the bridges and culverts\nwhilst we passed over them.\n\nUnder these circumstances it may be imagined that our prog-\nress was by no means rapid, and as we had frequently to halt\nalso to replenish our supply of wood fuel, we considered we\nhad achieved wonders when, on the evening of the second day,\n60 hours and 70 miles out from Erzeroum, we finally entered the\ngorge of the mountains where we understood our worst troubles\nto lie. This is the same gorge into which the road from\nErzeroum to Kars descends from the foot-hills to cross the\nfrontier; the railway, however, follows the main Aras River val-\nley till the frontier gorge enters it, whilst the road cuts off the\ncorner and joins the rail again at the frontier post of Zivin,\nsome 15 miles from the main valley.\n\nSoon after entering the gorge, we were confronted by the\nfirst serious fall of rock--about 2,000 tons having fallen from\nthe cliff face and entirely obliterated the railway track. Here,\ntherefore, we halted, and, sending our engine back, prepared to\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"On 21 Apr 93 00:07:20 GMT, Theodore A. Kaldis observed:\n\n: > because if she heard\n: Thankfully, you got the gender right.  For I am not a deviant.\n\nBigots aren't classified as deviants?  How sad.\n\n: > how disparaging you are towards political minorities,\n: Sexual deviants do not comprise a \"political minorit[y]\".\n\nSo, what's this I hear about a March on Washington...assuming\nyou are still considering homosexuality and bisexuality\nas subsets of \"sexual deviants?\"\n\n: > and if she had any shred of self-respect, she'd be out the door.\n: I only associate with girls who do indeed have self-respect.  \n\nI trust that many self-respecting *women* might take some sort\nof offense to your use of the term \"girls\" in the above sentence.\n\n--\nMichael D. Adams          (starowl@a2i.rahul.net)          Enterprise, Alabama","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nI agree. I'll delete more as well.\n\n\n\n\nStill, if the 'whispers' reached San Francisco, it is certainly possible they\nwere stronger elsewhere. Also, it was teammates making the aspersions. In any\nevent, I know of no other player to be maligned in the last couple years.\n\n\n\nUh, the original author's point was that black and white players were por-\ntrayed differently by \"the media\", and towards this, he gave a highly selected\nlist to \"prove\" his case. Sanders' name showed up eventually. I dispute that\nSanders has ever been called lazy by \"the media\". \n\n\n\n\n\n\nUh, that poster specifically stated \"allow me to be the first\". It is NOT a\nquibble, then, to state that \"the media\" did not portray Canseco as being \nlazy. If the other person chooses to so accuse him, after my post, that does not\nmake it a quibble. And in fact, the media around here tend(ed) to play up his\ntime in the wieght room. Hardly \"lazy\", and hardly a \"quibble\". Have you ever\nseen any \"mediot\" portray Canseco as \"lazy\"? Unconcerned with his fielding, yes.\nLazy, no.\n\n\nWell, Canseco has been involved in several felonies, including his high-speed\nrecord, carrying concealed fire-arms, and of course the domestic violence. \nClemens had a run-in at a bar. Canseco had that, as well, and in both cases, the\ncoverage was relatively minimal.\n\n\nUh, if the only evidence offered is anecdotal, how can it be objected that the\ncounter to it is also anecdotal?\n\n\nUh, yes, and I agree with your assesment of Boggs, rather specifically. However,\nyou did say \"everybody who has ever won a batting title\" has been accused of\nselfishness. I have not ever, anywhere, heard this said of Puckett. Pendleton,\neither. Similarly, Brett, B Williams, and others.  \n\n\nThere are others. Perhaps they are simply not as outspoken, except in the\ncase of the \"born-again\" types I mention.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\tI'd bet cash 90% of the people couldn't find the window after six\nminutes!  Ask anybody who's taken basic training in the military.  It is\nnot at all uncommon for a few soldiers who have not properly attached\nand cleared their masks to require assistance exiting the chamber.  Since\nthat chamber has a door, not just a window, it's likely a hell of a lot\neasier to exit than a multi-room, damaged house.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Forwarded from the Mars Observer Project\n\n                     MARS OBSERVER STATUS REPORT\n                           April 28, 1993\n                            12:40 PM PDT\n\nFlight Sequence C9 is active as of 00:11 AM, Tuesday, April 27.  With\nactivities beginning at shortly before 5:00 AM yesterday, C9 commanded\nthe spacecraft to execute a series of slews and rolls to provide the MAG\n(Magnetometer) Team data points in varying spacecraft attitudes and\norientations for the purpose of better characterizing the\nspacecraft-generated magnetic field and its effect on their instrument.\n\nThe spacecraft was commanded back to Sun Star Init state at 9:07 AM to\nre-establish Inertial Reference.  Transition back to Array Normal Spin\nbegan at 11:17 AM, after which the sequence powered on the on-board\ntransmitter at 11:18 AM.  Telemetry reacquisition occurred at\napproximately 11:30 AM at the 4 KBS Science and Engineering downlink\ndata rate on the High Gain Antenna.  Subsystem engineers report that all\nsystems appear to be nominal.  The command to terminate using the Low\nGain Antenna for uplink was sent at 12:31 PM.  Uplink and Downlink are\ncurrently via the HGA.\n\nMAG Calibration data has been recorded on Digital Tape Recorders 2 and 3.\nPlayback of DTR 2 is scheduled to take place tomorrow morning between\n8:11 AM and 12:42 PM.  Playback of DTR 3 is scheduled to take place\ntomorrow evening beginning at 11:57 PM and ending at 4:28 AM on Friday.\nDTR playback will be performed via the High Gain Antenna at 42,667 bits\nper second.  Upon verification of successful DTR playbacks, downlink will\nbe maintained at the 4K S & E rate.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"[By default, followups to 3 newsgroups.]\n\nA short excerpt:\n\n[...]","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I've had pretty good success autotracing line art with Adobe\nStreamline 2.0. The key to controlling excessive points, etc. is\nto take some time and do some test conversions using various\nTolerance settings.\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nMy experience is when they pound their fists on your back it means \"slow down\".\n\nSeriously, concentrate on being very smooth, and you will make her\nexperience much more enjoyable.  Even a normal upshift causes your\npassenger to bob, so I ease off the throttle before pulling in the\nclutch to eliminate this.  It's more work, but your passenger will\nappreciate it!  Also, I've found that using more rear brake than normal\nhelps keep the bike from diving as much during routine stops, which\nmakes it much easier for the passenger to hang on.  If you're going\nsport riding, have the passenger reach around you and brace themselves\nagainst the tank so you don't have to bear both your weights with your\narms.  (Again your bike will dive less too)\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThe current Adaptec drivers do not support the Toshiba 3401.  you should\nget the Corel SCSI drivers, which do support it.\n\nThis is the method that I used, and it works well.\n\nCorel's phone number is 1(613) 728-3733\n\nJust a satisfied user.\n\n\n\nJB","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"# : # Can someone tell me why when Mr. Cramer spouts on about homosexuals,\n# : # he only addresses homosexual men, and never, in any post I've read,\n# : # addressed lesbians?\n# \n# : I can't really speak for Mr. Cramer here, but I can say that a\n# : homosexual [male] is an entirely different animal than a lesbian.\n# : There is virtually nothing that is analogous or related between the\n# : aberrant behaviors practiced by these two groups of deviants.\n# \n# The last time I checked homosexual men and women were both human.\n\nI think Mr. Kaldis was using the expression in the slang sense,\nthough I agree it is NOT an appropriate expression to use in this\ncontext.\n\n# They both prefer to engage in sexual acts with people of the same\n# gender.  There is nothing inherently wrong with the \"trademark behaviour\"\n# of either homosexual men or homosexual women, except in the minds of\n# misinformed folk, clueless folk, and bigots.\n# \n# So what makes homosexual men and homosexual women different animals?\n# \n# Michael D. Adams          (starowl@a2i.rahul.net)          Enterprise, Alabama\n\n1. That homosexual men are extremely promiscuous, and homosexual women\nare, if any more promiscuous than heterosexual women, it's not by\nmuch.\n\n2. That homosexual men are overrepresented among child molesters \n(about 30% of child molestation is done by homosexual or bisexual\nmen), while homosexual women don't appear to be similarly over-\nrepresented.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\tFor what it's worth, my experience has been that the educational\ndiscount (which my S.O. has taken advantage of, as a teacher) is roughly\nequivalent to the corporate discounts that I'm able to get as an employee of\na fairly large multi-state corporation, which is usually at least as good as\nwhat one can get at one of the \"discount\" computer chains (e.g. CompUSA).\n\tFor purposes of budget estimation around here, we usually just knock\naround 20% off SRP. \n\t************************************************************\n\t*  \tThe_Doge of South St. Louis\t\t\t   *\n\t*\t\tDobbs-Approved Media Conspirator(tm)\t   *\n\t*\t\"One Step Beyond\"  -- Sundays, 3 to 5 pm\t   *\n\t*\t\t88.1 FM\t\tSt. Louis Community Radio  *\n\t*  \"You'll pay to know what you *really* think!\"           *\n\t*\t\t\t-- J.R. \"Bob\" Dobbs\"\t\t   *\n\t************************************************************\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI have a copy.  Why are you interested?\n\nLance\n ","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nWe've been progressing towards that goal for 30 years now.  We precede\nany orbiting mission with flyby missions.  Of course, it gets harder to\ndo as we work our way farther away from Earth.  We're just starting to\nwork out to the outer planets: Galileo will orbit Jupiter, and Cassini around \nSaturn.  \n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"pmoloney@maths.tcd.ie (Paul Moloney) writes...\n\n\nNever lived out in the country I see. 4 years ago I had a place\nwhere I had to carry in propane every month, hook the bottle up \nto copper line, to supply both the stove, and a type of water-\nheater called a flash-heater. A flash heater has a pilot lamp.\n\nHere's the point. If the Davidians had their propane tanks hooked \nup to copper (or some such) lines, run through the ceiling spaces\n-- when the FBI started wrecking the place, they could easily have\nruptured the lines. Which then would start spreading out through\nthe overhead. And since it was a country home, it wasn't necessarily\nbuilt with non-flamable insulation. \n\nIt's probably more plausible than anything else, that the fire started\nmainly as a result of accident -- or willful negligence on the part of\nthe FBI, which should have known better (ie. manslaughter).\n\nIt's certain that if the tanks hadn't been used that day -- the fire\nwouldn't have started.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nI am replying to this because I haven't seen anyone else do so yet. It\nseems rather odd really as there are so few really wierd posters left\nwho aren't fascists or Arab extremists.\n\n\nYes it was and it was clearly admitted so by the troops who carried it\nout and then stupidly deposited testimony in their own archives to that\neffect.\n\n\nSource? Noone is claiming this anymore except you. Would you like\nto name one credible historian who asserts this? I believe that\neven Begin has the decency not to claim this.\n\n\nYes they did and thye said so - they said they went their with the\nintention of killing all the men and all the women who got in their\nway. Their *own* archives remember, this is not hostile testimony.\n\n\nSound van bogged down in a ditch. No warning given.\n\n\nYes it was and no it was not. It was a massacre - the murder of hundreds\nof unarmed civilians who had no part in the fighting. The surviving men\nwere taken to the local quarry and shot in the back of the head. Not\nintentional? Yeah right.\n\n\nNo it did not - you have a source for this slander of course?\n\n\nThe men involved said clearly that the intention was to kill all the\nmen. It was a premeditated mass murder nothing else.\n\n\nOn that we agree at least.\n\n\nYes they did want to kill the inhabitants and many of them were killed.\nThis is of course simple to resolve, the Haganah sent a soldier to report\non the massacre. He brought a photographer with him. He sent in a report.\nThe Israeli government suppressed it. Now the government was a Labour\nGovernment. Since then the Revisionists have gotten into power but for\nsome reason Likud didn't release the report and its pictures either.\nPerhaps you might want to tell me why? If it happened as you claim then\nthere will be no pictures of men shot in the head with their hands tied\nbehind their backs, no women and children shot as they slept. Yet for\nsome reason they did not take the chance to clear their own name. You\nhave a reason for this don't you? I somehow doubt it. The facts are\nexactly as the people responsible claim - a premeditated mass murder\nnothing else. No Iraqi soldiers, no other fighting. Just ethnic cleansing\nat work.\n\nJoseph Askew\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\tTry looking in a Magizine called Radio Electronics, May 1992 issue,\npage 41.  There is a circuit for a Midi Light controller there.  \n\n-=- Andy -=-","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Hello everyone. I just wanted to let everyone know that I have just\nbeen selected as part of the Reduction In Force here at Amdahl. For all\nthat are currently in a dialog with me, or are waiting letters from me,\nI have saved your letters on floppy and will continue when I get back\non the net from another account in the future.\n\nFor those who are on the GEnie network, my email address there is:\n\n                     T.ROSE1\n\nGod Bless and Goodbye until then. If you want to continue dialogs with\nme via US MAIL, I can be contacted at:","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nThe belief that the churches of Egypt and Syria were (or are) monophysite is \nfalse, as is the belief that they often held that the Council of Chalcedon \nwas Nestorian.\n\nThese misunderstandings were exacerbated by political factors, and thus led \nto schism - a schism that is on its way to being healed.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"B\nB\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"He  \ndimmagio's.\n\nHenderson's stat's are probably closer to DiMaggio's than you\nthink.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
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{"text":"Technion - Israel Institute of Technology\n         Department of Computer Science\n\n       GRADUATE STUDIES IN COMPUTER GRAPHICS\n\nApplications are invited for graduate students wishing\nto specialize in computer graphics and related fields.\nActive research is being conducted in the fields of\nimage rendering, geometric modelling and computer animation.\nState of the art graphics workstations (Sun, Silicon Graphics)\nand video equipment are available.\nThe Technion offers full scholarship support (tuition and \nassistantships) for suitable candidates.\n\nFor more information contact","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"What about GREASE II?????\n\n\tArun.\n\tCool Rider.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"-> 4) Are there any fairly cheap (<$150 or so) ways to increase the\n-> performance on this car? Unfortunately, a Taurus is not exactly a\n-> muscle car, so I'm looking for ways to increase the performance.\n\nThere is a company in Florida that sells computer chips that supposedly\nget a few HP and Torque out of the 3.0. Don't have the address, but saw\nthe ad in Hot Rod and some other car magazines. Also, you could open up\nthe exhaust (get an exhaust with a larger i.d.)\n\nHope this helps. If you find anything else, let me know. I've got a 1990\nTaurus L.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\n        Thank you very much. These computers behave exactly like what \nyou're describing. Now, my question. I am running on the lowest of all \nbudgets, public education. How can I analyze this? All I need is some \nsort of packet counter. Do any exist, and where are they?\n        Thanks again,\n\n                                -- Andrew Geweke\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"This may be an FAQ (if so, please direct me to the known answer) but I\n    am getting frustrated and looking for help.\n\n    I am running Win 3.1 with NDW 2.2 on a 486sx with 8 meg of memory and a\n    6 meg perm swap file and am getting exceedingly frustrated that my\n    applications are not giving back system resources when I close them.\n\n    When I load windows I start with about 83% resources available but many\n    of the application programs I run regularly (WPWIN 5.2, VB 2.0, WINQVT\n    2.8, Lotus Organizer, etc.) seem to not return all their resources when\n    I exit them.  After a day or two of work I often find myself down under\n    50% of available resources even when I have no applications other than\n    my shell running.\n\n    I am aware this is a known problem; what I am looking for are some\n    suggestions of what I might do to mitigate it.  \n\n    1. What software is the culprit?  Win 3.1, NDW, my applications?  Are\n    some modes of Win 3.1 (standard, real, enhanced) better than others at\n    plugging this leak?\n\n    2. Are their system.ini switches i can set to help plug this leak?\n\n    3. Do people know of patches or third party software that help with\n    this?  Seems like increasing or better managing system resources is a\n    great market for a third party memory company like QEMM.\n\n    4. If I run Progman instead of NDW will the leak subside?  (I was\n    hoping that NDW 2.2 would have plugged this, but it seems no different\n    than 2.0 in how it deals with memory and resources.)\n\n    5. When I am writing VB code are there things I can do to make it less\n    likely my code will eat resources?\n\n    6. Any other suggestions that I don't know enough to ask for\n    specifically?\n\n    Thanks for your help.  As this is a common problem and I have seen only\n    a little discussion of it on the net there are probably others who\n    would like to read answers so please publish here rather than sending\n    me email.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
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{"text":"   So Rick, why not read the Bible for yourself?  It is written in plain\n   english.  Decide for yourself.   ","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Please help with MPEG description or sources:decoders &\nencoders. Great thanks in advance.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Yet another XView question: is there an (easy) way of detecting when a user\nhas resized a frame _externally_ by way of the window manager (e.g. grabbing\nand letting go of the frame resize corners under olwm)? If so, please let me\nknow!\n\nDerek\n\n-----------------------------------------------------------","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I hooked up an old 40meg external mac hardrive to a Powerbook 230.  I \nreformatted the drive, copied all the files from the powerbook except the\nsystemfolder, deleted the files from the powerbook (my biggest error, sigh)\nand then rebooted the whole set up and... chimes of death.\nI get the following sad mac error, \n00000F\n000003\nI ran Norton and it claims its a bad SCSI driver and suggests replaceing it.\nI used Apples Disk Tools but I couldn't update the hardrives SCSI driver\nas it claimed it was in use, but I couldn't even mount the thing (though\nI could see it when checking the SCSI bus, after turning it on after booting\nmy machine first).\n\nWhat does that error above refer to?  Am I on the right track?  Is there\nanything I can do short of intialising the drive, since I need the data\non there!","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nSince I don't think Tom always gets time to read this group, I'll take the\nliberty of responding to some of this.  If you really want Tom to reply\nyou should send mail to support@qdeck.com.\n\nA 64k line is certainly going to restrict you far more than the 10mbps\nethernet that we typically run.  How restrictive it will be depends on \nwhat you run and how you run it.  I would think that a couple of instances\nof some really nasty program like \"Smoking Clover\" would make the link \nuseless for anyone else.  On the other hand, probably 50 xclocks quietly\nupdating every 10 seconds or so wouldn't impact it too much.  In the real\nworld, you will be somewhere in between these two extremes.\n\nGoing by the way I personally use X on a daily basis, I wouldn't want to have\nto share that 64k link with more than 3-4 other people.\n\n\nOur corporate WAN is as unique as any other.  The usage patterns are not very\ngood predictors of how yours will behave.  The only one of our low bandwidth\nlinks that normally get used in this way is a 56k link to Ireland that they\noften use to run a DOS text based client end of a client-server database \nremotely from the DVX machine behind me. Since the server end is (or was) always\nat this end (California) it is faster to remotely run the client via DESQview\nX and have a short hop to the server than running the client locally and having\na long hop to the server.  As I warned you, this tells us very little about\nhow you usage pattern will fill a 64k ISDN link.\n\nRunning Word for Windows remotely is going to itself be very usage dependent.\nLet's break it into pieces and look at it.  Tracking the mouse pointer is easy\nand efficient to translate from Windows calls into X. Popping up a menu is a\nlittle more involved and will generate some traffic.  Restoring the screen\nthat was covered by that menu may be easy and may not be.  Does the server\nthat it's displaying on have backing store?  If so and the server had enough\nmemory the display can be updated locally and will generate little network\ntraffic. If no backing store, then what was being covered up?  If it was a \nsolid colored rectangle of space we can tell your xserver to draw that quite\neasily.  If it was a full color backdrop of Ren & Stimpy we may have to send\nit back to the X server bit by bit.  DVX will do its level best to only redraw\nthat small area, but in some unusual cases the entire screen may need to be \nrepainted.  Assuning a 1024x768 screen with 4 bits per pixel that's 3145728 bits\nthat has to be sent.  Worst possible case you're looking at about 50 seconds.\nIn reality it would never be this bad since the screen will always have parts \nthat will be tranlatable into higher level X calls.\n\n\nX was designed from the ground up to be efficient across a network.  It's \npretty good for this.  X programs are best, DOS text programs are almost\nas good (since we conert them to X easily).  Something like WinX is a hybrid.\nWe intercept the calls Windows makes to it's graphics driver\/ mouse driver\nkeyboard driver and convert them to X.  The calls Windows is making are in\nno way designed to be efficient on a packet switched network.  We go to a \nlot of trouble to convert them to the highes level Xlib calls we can, but\nwe are somewhat limited because we only know what Windows and its applications\ntell us.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"-*----\n\n\nI believe that Maharishi is titular.  (Someone please correct me if \nI am wrong.)  Thus, Maharishi Rajneesh is a different person from\nMaharishi Mahesh, but they are both Maharishis.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nThe new Cruisers DO NOT have independent suspension in the front.  They\nstill\nrun a straight axle, but with coils.  The 4Runner is the one with\nindependent\nfront.  The Cruisers have incredible wheel travel with this system. \n\nThe 91-up Cruiser does have full time 4WD, but the center diff locks in\nlow range.  My brother has a 91 and is an incredibly sturdy vehicle which\nhas done all the 4+ trails in Moab without a tow.  The 93 and later is even\nbetter with the bigger engine and locking diffs.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"BIOLOGICAL ALCHEMY\n                          \n                        ( ANOTHER Form of COLD FUSION )\n\n               ( ALTERNATIVE Heavy Element Creation in Universe ) \n\n               A very simple experiment can demonstrate (PROVE) the \n          FACT of \"BIOLOGICAL TRANSMUTATIONS\" (reactions like Mg + O \n          --> Ca, Si + C --> Ca, K + H --> Ca, N2 --> CO, etc.), as \n          described in the BOOK \"Biological Transmutations\" by Louis \n          Kervran, [1972 Edition is BEST.], and in Chapter 17 of the \n          book \"THE SECRET LIFE OF PLANTS\" by Peter Tompkins and \n          Christopher Bird, 1973: \n\n               (1) Obtain a good sample of plant seeds, all of the same \n                   kind.  [Some kinds might work better that others.]\n\n               (2) Divide the sample into two groups of equal weight \n                   and number.\n\n               (3) Sprout one group in distilled water on filter paper \n                   for three or four weeks.\n\n               (4) Separately incinerate both groups.\n\n               (5) Weigh the residue from each group.  [The residue of \n                   the sprouted group will usually weigh at least \n                   SEVERAL PERCENT MORE than the other group.]\n\n               (6) Analyze quantitatively the residue of each group for \n                   mineral content.  [Some of the mineral atoms of the \n                   sprouted group have been TRANSMUTED into heavier \n                   mineral elements by FUSING with atoms of oxygen, \n                   hydrogen, carbon, nitrogen, etc..]\n\n          \n               BIOLOGICAL TRANSMUTATIONS occur ROUTINELY, even in our \n          own bodies. \n          \n               Ingesting a source of organic silicon (silicon with \n          carbon, such as \"horsetail\" extract, or radishes) can SPEED \n          HEALING OF BROKEN BONES via the reaction Si + C --> Ca, (much \n          faster than by merely ingesting the calcium directly).  \n          \n               Some MINERAL DEPOSITS in the ground are formed by micro-\n          organisms FUSING together atoms of silicon, carbon, nitrogen, \n          oxygen, hydrogen, etc.. \n          \n               The two reactions Si + C <--> Ca, by micro-organisms, \n          cause \"STONE SICKNESS\" in statues, building bricks, etc..  \n          \n               The reaction N2 --> CO, catalysed by very hot iron, \n          creates a CARBON-MONOXIDE POISON HAZARD for welder operators \n          and people near woodstoves (even properly sealed ones). \n          \n               Some bacteria can even NEUTRALIZE RADIOACTIVITY! \n          \n\n               ALL OF THESE THINGS AND MORE HAPPEN, IN SPITE OF the \n          currently accepted \"laws\" of physics, (including the law \n          which says that atomic fusion requires EXTREMELY HIGH \n          temperatures and pressures.) \n\n\n\n          \"BIOLOGICAL TRANSMUTATIONS, And Their Applications In \n               CHEMISTRY, PHYSICS, BIOLOGY, ECOLOGY, MEDICINE, \n               NUTRITION, AGRIGULTURE, GEOLOGY\", \n          1st Edition, \n          by C. Louis Kervran, Active Member of New York Academy of \n               Science, \n          1972, \n          163 Pages, Illustrated, \n          Swan House Publishing Co.,\n               P.O. Box 638, \n               Binghamton, NY  13902 \n\n          \n          \"THE SECRET LIFE OF PLANTS\", \n          by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird, \n          1973, \n          402 Pages, \n          Harper & Row, \n               New York\n          [Chapters 19 and 20 are about \"RADIONICS\".  Entire book is \n               FASCINATING! ]\n          \n\n               For more information, answers to your questions, etc., \n          please consult my CITED SOURCES (the two books). \n\n\n\n               UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this \n          IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED. \n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nWell, apparently once you get past about 6 inches, all the luggage shifts back in the panniers, the passenger slides back, and the dog ends up hanging onto the top rack,\nand they go all the way over until it's flat on it's ass, with the front wheel\nstraight up in the sky.  Impressive, but hard on the tail lights. :)","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Is this newsgroup archived anywhere beyond the normal expiration\ndates, say for the last 6 months or more?","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"If I'm going to drive on a public road then I need a\nspeedometer, and an odometer helps for navigation.\n \nMy 1965 Chevy has a bare minimum:  Engine-temp and\nOil-press warning lights and a fuel gauge. \n\nMy 1983 VW has tach, water-temp, voltmeter \nand oil-temp gauges. \n \nIf I had a turbo car, I'd want a vacuum manifold\/boost\ngauge.  An oil pressure gauge is a nice, reassuring\ngauge to look at.  If my car was air cooled, then I\nwould substitute a cyl-head-temp gauge for the water-temp\ngauge.\n \nA few years ago, I looked at the Audi Quattro Si Coupe\nthat Bobby Unser used to win the 1986 Pikes Peak Hill Climb.\nThe gauge layout, from left to right, top to bottom was:\n \n----------------------------------\n \nspeedometer\n \n----------------------------------\n \nfuel                  tranny\npress                 temp\n \n----------------------------------\n \ndifferential           water\ntemp                   temp\n \n----------------------------------\n \nbig orange             tach\noil-press\nwarning light\n \n----------------------------------\n \noil-temp               boost\n \n----------------------------------\n \noil-press\n \n---------------------------------- ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nI can see that some of the above verses do not clearly address the issues, \nhowever, a couple of them seem as though they do not require \"incredibly \nperverse interpretations\" in order to be seen as condemning homosexuality.\n\n\"... Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolators, nor adulterers, \nnor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, \nnor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom  of God.  And such were \nsome of you...\"  I Cor. 6:9-11.\n\nWould someone care to comment on the fact that the above seems to say\nfornicators will not inherit the kingdom of God?  How does this apply\nto homosexuals?  I understand \"fornication\" to be sex outside of\nmarriage.  Is this an accurate definition?  Is there any such thing as\nsame-sex marriage in the Bible?  My understanding has always been that\nthe New Testament blesses sexual intercourse only between a husband\nand his wife.  I am, however, willing to listen to Scriptural evidence\nto the contrary.\n\n\"You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an\nabomination.  Also you shall not have intercourse with any animal to\nbe defiled with it, nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate\nwith it; it is a perversion.\"  Lev. 18:22-23.\n\nI notice that the verse forbidding bestiality immediately follows the\nverse prohibiting what appears to be homosexual intercourse.  I know\nof no New Testament passages that clearly condemn, or even mention,\nintercourse with animals.  Do those who argue for the legitimacy of\nhomosexual intercourse believe that the Bible condemns bestiality as a\nperversion, and if so, why?  That is, what verses would you cite to\nprove that bestiality was perverted and sinful?  Could the verses you\ncite be refuted by interpreting them differently?  Can one be a\nChristian zoophile?\n\nBy the way, I myself am subject to sexual desires that I did not\nchoose to have and that many people would regard as perverted and\nsinful, so please understand that I am not asking these questions out\nof an antipathy towards my fellow \"people of alternative\norientations\".  I do believe, however, that one should read the Bible\nwith an attitude of \"what is the Bible trying to say\" and not \"what do\nI WANT the Bible to say.\"  I choose not to give in to my \"perverted\"\nsexual desires because I believe the Bible tries to tell me, whether I\nlike it or not, that such things are sin.  It is frustrating at times,\nand I have had days where it really got me down, but I don't blame God\nfor this, I blame the sin itself.\n\n- Mark\n\n[There's some ambiguity about the meaning of the words in the passage\nyou quote.  Both liberal and conservative sources seem to agree that\n\"homosexual\" is not the general term for homosexuals, but is likely to\nhave a meaning like homosexual prostitute.  That doesn't meant that I\nthink all the Biblical evidence vanishes, but the nature of the\nevidence is such that you can't just quote one verse and solve things.\n\nI think your argument from fornication is circular.  Why is\nhomosexuality wrong?  Because it's fornication.  Why is it\nfornication?  Because they're not married.  Why aren't they married?\nBecause the church refuses to do a marriage ceremony.  Why does the\nchurch refuse to do a marriage ceremony?  Because homosexuality is\nwrong.  In order to break the circle there's got to be some other\nreason to think homosexuality is wrong.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nDamn, you're dead right! That pretty much settles it. Not to worry.\n\n-- \n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nJohn Hesse           |          A man,     \njhesse@netcom.com    |                 a plan, \nMoss Beach, Calif    |                         a canal, Bob.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Does anyone know how to decode the color information of a NTSC signal ?\n\nI need to convert this data to RGB for a Video Capture Utility I am \nwriting for use with an IBM M-MOTION Video adapter card...\n\nI need to know the how the V and U signals work in the color process.\n\nThanks in advance for any information or algorythms etc.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":": \n: >What kind of power must he be putting out to cause the effects?\n: >The affected equipment is about 100 feet from the road...\n: \n: Might be a couple of hundred watts, from the sound of it.  Kicking sound\n: out of the TV and stereo speakers by direct RF rectification requires a\n: mighty strong carrier!  [I've heard of linears so powerful that\n: triggering them while the car was idling, would stall the engine by\n: pulling down the battery voltage.]\n\nIt would take a lot more than that. It sounds like the radio equipment is\nactually not shut completely off - but just goes to a standby situation.\n\nI suspect that the stories are just that, stories.  The voltage can only\nbe sucked down so far instantaneously. When you try to jumpstart someones \ncar, when your vehicle is at idle, does your car stall? No, the other car\njust does not crank well.  Now, the engine might stall because the idle\nwas too low to start with. When the extra current is drawn, the idle speed\nwill drop - as the alternator loads down the engine to compensate for the\nincreased amperage requirement.\n\n: >Is resolution of this problem a matter for the power company, the fcc, or both?\n: \n: Ultimately it's likely to be your problem to resolve, I'm afraid.  The\n: FCC is so understaffed that they don't pay much attention to citizen\n: complains about RFI (or so I've heard)... they'll just send you a\n: pamphlet describing how you can apply corrective measures.\n: \n: Talking to the power company might help - they might be able to install\n: filtering devices at your service panel (or recommend a type which you\n: could have installed by a licensed electrician).\n\nA transmitter is not going to be affecting house power. If surges are\noccurring there, it is due to another cause - not a transmitter.\n\n: Unfortunately, there's a fair chance that enough signal is being picked\n: up by your house wiring that a simple service-panel filter won't\n: suffice.  You may need to install heavy-duty RFI filters at the power\n: connections of your affected equipment.\n\nIt is probably not that much of a problem. Often - toroid coils on the\npower leads will solve that part of the interference problem. It will\nnot solve internal equipment deficiencies.\n\n: If the problem occurs regularly, you may need to \"stake out\" the street\n: in question, and watch for trucks or cars with big antennae driving by\n: at the time interference occurs.  If you can identify the vehicle which\n: is transmitting, you may be able to contact its owner and complain.\n\nIt is probably not the transmitter that is at fault. If the person is an\namateur, then he\/she will probably be willing to help - if you explain\nthat the person is causing interference.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nto take this to its, er, \"logical\" conclusion, it is impossible to\nascertain whether or not i am a better hitter than roberto alomar,\nor a better pitcher than juan guzman, or a better center fielder than\ndevon white.  after all, if i were on the blue jays, can you really\nprove that they wouldn't have won the world series in both 1991 AND\n1992?\n\nwhile i thank you, mister maynard, for your faith in my atheletic\nprowess, i can assure you that your faith is misplaced.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"One way to make cheap trimmable resistors is to use a high-wattage carbon\ncomposition resistor, and saw a notch in it with a triangular file.\nOf course, you can only increase the resistance, not decrease it.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nI need 3 tickets to the cleveland showing of phantom of the opera.\nI will pay face value for tickets in the 50 dollar and lower range\npreferably a matinee show but any in middle to late may will be bought.\nplease leave mail.\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"[This was crossposted to a zillion groups.  I don't intend to\ncarry an entire discussion crossposted from alt.sex, particularly\none whose motivation seems to be having a fun argument.  However\nI thought readers might be interested to know about the\ndiscussion there.  --clh]\n\nI intend to endeavor to make the argument that homosexuality is an\nimmoral practice or lifestyle or whatever you call it.  I intend to\nshow that there is a basis for a rational declaration of this\nstatement.  I intend to also show that such a declaration can be \nmade without there being a religious justification for morality,\nin fact to show that such a standard can be made if one is an atheist.\n\nAnyone who wants to join in on the fun in taking the other side,\ni.e. that they can make the claim that homosexuality is not immoral,\nor that, collaterally, it is a morally valid practice, is free to do\nso.  I think there are a lot of people who don't believe one can have\na rational based morality without having a religion attached to it.\n\nThis should be fun to try and figure this out, and I want to try and\nexpose (no pun intended) my ideas and see other people's and see where\ntheir ideas are standing.  As I'm not sure what groups would be interested\nin this discussion, I will be posting an announcement of it to several,\nand if someone thinks of appropriate groups, let me know.\n\nIf someone on here doesn't receive alt.sex, let me know and I'll make\nan exception to my usual policy and set up a mailing list to automatically\ndistribute it in digest format to anyone who wants to receive it as I'll\nuse that as the main forum for this.  By \"exception to usual policy\" is\nthat I normally charge for this, but for the duration the service will be\navailable at no charge to anyone who has an address reachable on Internet\nor Bitnet.\n\nI decided to start this dialog when I realized there was a much larger\naudience on usenet \/ internet than on the smaller BBS networks.\n\nTo give the other side time to work up to a screaming anger, this will \nbegin on Monday, May 24, to give people who want to make the response\ntime to identify themselves.  Anonymous postings are acceptable, since\nsome people may not wish to identify themselves.  Also, if someone else\nwants to get in on my side, they are free to do so.  ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"From: dhammers@pacific.? (David Hammerslag)\n\n\tHow do you (Mormons) reconcile the idea of eternal marriage with \n\tChrist's statement that in the resurrection people will neither \n\tmarry nor be given in marriage (Luke, chapt. 20)?\n\nFootnotes in some bibles reference this verse to the Book of Tobit.\nTobit is in the Septuagint. Goodspeed published it in a book called \n\"The Apocrypha\". Most any bookstore will have this. At any rate, the Jews \nof Christ's day had this book. It is a story mostly centered around the\nson of Tobit who was named Tobias. There was a young lady, Sarah, who had \nentered the bridal chamber with seven brothers in succession. The brothers \nall died in the chamber before consumating the marriage.\n\nTobias was entitled to have Sarah for his wife (3:17) because Tobias was\nher only relative and \"...she was destined for [Tobias] from the beginning\"\n(6:17).\n\nTobias took her to wife and was able to consumate the marriage. The \nseven husbands would not have her as a partner in heaven. That does not \neliminate Tobias, her eighth husband. Tobit is a fun and interesting \nstory to read. It's kind of a mythical romance. It's a little shorter \nthan Esther.\n\nThe LDS also have scriptures that parallel and amplify Luke 20. Most \nnotably Doctrines and Covenants 132:15-16.\n\n\t\"Therefore, if a man marry him a wife in the world, and he marry \n\ther not by me nor by my word, and he covenant with her so long as\n\the is in the world and she with him, their covenant and marriage\n\tare not of force when they are dead, and when they are out of \n\tthe world; therefore, they are not bound by any law when they \n\tare out of the world.\n\n\t\"Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor \n\tare given in marriage; but are appointed angels in heaven, which\n\tangels are ministering servants, to minister for those who are \n\tworthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of \n\tglory.\"\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nI have tried that with one font, if your xterm terminfos\/termcaps are set up\nto NOT remap bold (which they are be default) to reverse, then nothing happens\nwhen bold is displayed.  It would appear (at least in X11R4) than you cannot\ndisplay bold in an xterm without specifying two fonts; a normal and a bold.\nI wish someone would prove that incorrect.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nI heard about the arms sale to Saudi Arabia.  Now, how is it such a grave\nmistake to sell Saudi Arabia weapons?  Or are you claiming that we shouldn't\nsell any weapons to other countries?  Straightforward answer please.\n\n\nWho benefits from arms sales?  Hint, it isn't normally the gov't.  It is\nthe contractor that builds that piece of equipment.  Believe it or not,\nthe US and UK don't export the huge quantities of arms that you have\njust accused them of doing.  Arms exports are rare enough, that it\nrequires an act of congress for non-small arms to most countries, if\nnot all.  Do you believe in telling everyone who can do what, and who\ncan sell their goods to whom?  \n\n\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nAlright, that's enough. I've suffered with all kinds of insults (as\ntypical for the net), but give me a break. Galarraga is currently\nbatting over .400 and you guys are complaining that he isn't drawing\nenough walks.  What would he have to do to please you guys, bat 1.000?\nYou can hardly claim that he is \"hurting his team\".\n\nIf it happens that the pitchers start throwing him fewer good pitches\nand he starts making lots of outs (as someone speculated might happen),\n*THEN* I would agree with you that he isn't taking enough pitches. My comment\nthat \"he isn't paid to walk\" doesn't mean that he should have a license\nto swing at bad pitches and make outs; it's more along the lines of: he's\nbatting .400 and leading the league in RBI's so what bloody difference\ndoes it make if he isn't drawing  a lot of walks? Sheesh.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\na 286 upgrade would probably cost about $50, 386 about $150 or so.  \nCoprocessors or accelerator cards would cost at least that much.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Hi there again...\nI still have a few tapes left...\n\nAs before they are $2.50 each (postage paid) - Or Best Offer...\nMultiple orders appreciated, but not necessary...\nPackage deals welcome...\n\nThanks...\nChris Bray\n\nLewis, Huey|Sports\n\tContains \"Heart of Rock and Roll\", \"Heart and Soul\", \"Want a New\n\tDrug\", \"Walking on a Thin Line\", \"If This is It\", and more!!!\n\nHooters: Nervous Night\n\tContains: And We Danced, Day By Day, All You Zombies, Nervous Night...\n\nPoison|Look What the Cat Dragged In\n\tTheir 1st tape. Contains \"Cry Tough\", \"I Wont Forget You\", \n\t\"Talk Dirty to Me\", and more!\n\nHall & Oates|Big Bam Boom\n\tContains: \"Out of Touch\", \"Possession Obsession\", and more!\n\nRatt|Out of the Cellar\n\tContains: Wanted Man, Round and Round, and more!\n\nQuiet Riot|Condition Critical\n\tContains: Mama Weer All Krazy Now\n\nOutfield|Play Deep\n\tContains: Say It Isn't So, Your Love, All the Love in the World,\n\tand more!\n\nPlant, Robert|Shaken n' Stirred\n\tContains: Little By Little\n\nJourney|Raised on Radio\n\tContains: Girl Cant Help It, Suzanne, Be Good to Yourself, Ill Be\n\tAlright Without You, Why Cant This Night Go On Forever...\n\nMonkees|Then and Now - The Best of the Monkees\n\tContains: All their big hits plus some...\n\nINXS|Kick\n\tContains: Mediate, New Sensation, Devil Inside, Need You Tonight,\n\tNever Tear Us Apart, Mystify, and more! GREAT TAPE....\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n  There was at least one blast consistent with petroleum products that I\nsaw, however propane is interesting stuff.  It doesn't explode on contact with\nair.  It is *possible* for a tank to rupture without exploding.  Far more\nlikely, however, is that the compound was equipped with NG outlets running to\nthe tank.  Damage from the CEV's could have ruptured the gas lines, allowing\nthe gas to spread, unnoticed in the CS fumes and general excitement (propane\ntypically has a distinctive odor added to it for just this reason -- to smell\nleaks), until reaching a flame or spark, and then Whooosh!  Fire everywhere,\nand maybe an explosion.  Use of NG is pretty common in Texas, especially\nsemi-rural areas.\n\n\n  This is true, but so far the FBI\/BATF track record on this incident is very\nbad.\n\n\n  I think it would have disarmed many people if the FBI followed this same\npolicy.  They have not.  They are making claims without evidence, and what\nevidence we have so far tends to refute their story.\n\nsemper fi,","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n Stay away from GEICO.\n\n A recent CAR & DRIVER issue has an article about GEICO giving free\n laser guns to police departments to increase they're speed limit\n enforcement.  The article also said that if you get a speeding ticket\n your premium will increase dramatically based on how much \"over the\n limit\" you were.  If I remember correctly, at \"more than 20 over\",\n you'll get something like a 65% increase. \n\n If you have a radar detector, you will be denied coverage or dropped\n immediately. \n\n One accident claim and you will be dropped.\n After many years with GEICO, my father who had 0 tickets and had made\n 0 claims, had an accident and filed an $800 claim.  He was dropped \n immediately.  Since then he has been with State Farm for years with\n no complaints.\n\n I have been with State Farm for about 20 years - no complaints.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nI add my congratulations as well. To all those who survive the gauntlet,\ncheers.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Habital planets are also dependent on what kind of plant life can be grown..\nand such.. Length of growing season (that is if you want something more than\nVAT food, argh, Id ratehr eat an MRE for  along period of time).\n\nI know in Fairbanks (Furbanks to some) the winter can get to -60 or so F, but\nin the summer can get to +90 and such.. I know of worse places..\n       \nIncans and Sherpa and other low pressure atmosphere and such are a limit in\nhuman adaptability(someone mentioend that Incan woman must come to lower\nelevations to have babies brought to term? true?) I remember a book by\nPourrnelle I think that delt with a planet was lower density air..\n\nI wonder what the limit on the other end of atmospheres?\n\nI am limiting to human needs and stresses and not alien possibilties..\nThou aliens might be more adapted to a totally alien to human environment, such\nas the upper atmosphere of Jupiter or??\n\nAlmost makes bio-engineered life easy...","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Antonio,you weren't alone.\n\nABC ratings were very good. I was schocked to hear that ABC's telecast\nwas the fifth most watched sporting event over the weekend. National\nrating came out to a very respectable 3.3. Top-29 Nielsen markets were\nat 2.9. In Boston,the game scored lower at 2.4 but it had some competion\nfrom local sports teams.\nQuite frankly, I expected ABC's ratings to be under 2.0. But I'm happy\nto be proven wrong!\n\nWell,well...Sometimes it pays off clicking away on your cable-tv remote\ncontrol.:-) And if you happen to be a hockey fan,you could just stumble\nupon a playoff hockey game...\n\nESPN picked up Detroit-Toronto game on Monday night because the only\nnight game in MLB was being rained out in Chicago. You have to give\nESPN credit for switching to Detroit's FOX-50 coverage and having Bill\nClement at a Pittsburgh's TV station(WATE?) for intermission analysis.\nMaybe,ESPN people were giddy over perliminary over-night ABC ratings\nfor Sunday's telecast and thought it was a good idea to feature the\nNorris division showdown rather than a monster truck competion.\nGood move,ESPN!\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n\nAll Muslims knew that the whole thing was set up to destroy Iraq, not\nto \"Liberate Kuwait\", The people who were killed by the invasion are\nmore (many many more), than the ones that were killed by the Iraqis\nin their smaller invasion. I lived in the west, and I have seen how \nyour media prepared you (helpless naive Americans) for a war against\nIraq even before the artificial conflict between Iraq and Kuwait that\nled to the invasion, as the CIA correctly predicted (and pretended to\nbe surprised not to know).\nIt just happened that Saddam was so predictible and so arrogant and stupid.\n\nWhat would I have done: Most Muslims would choose 300 dead Kuwaitis over\n200,000 dead Iraqis and 1000 dead Kuwaitis. The first case would happen\nif no western intervention happened, and the second case was a direct\nor indirect result of western envolvement.\n\nHuman rights in Kuwait? what about human rights in Iraq? why the west\ngave Saddam a green light to slaughter his own people? I will give my\nreason: because the rich Kuwaitis do not mind to be your salves, so\nthey deserve some democracy, but Iraqis might not, so they don't.\n\nAs simple as that, whether or not you want to admit it.\n\n\nNot necessarily the best solution, my view of an Islamic state (and\nthat of Turabi that your media made you hate) includes all the benefits\nof a secular state minus the injustices. Did you ever read a book by\nRashid Al-Ghannoushi (Tunisia), Hassan Turabi (Sudan)? You only know\nabout them from your Self-censured, self-controlled media.\n\nIf they make this kind of campaign against such a moderate thinker as\nTurabi is, and keep quite about such an extremist Muslim scholar as Bin\nBez of Saudi Arabia is, it just does not encourage any moderation in\nour ARab world.\n\n\nNo it was not that, it was just some irrelevent stuff that I took out\nto go around the copyright (;-))\n\nI ceased to take the Newyork times seriously. In issues concerning Islam\nit has become one of the biggest enemies (although less than the other\nNewYork daily since Mortimer took it over). It lies, selects facts that\nfits its agenda and even prints racist and open anti-Muslim editorials.\n\nWhat they claimed in that articles is a bunch of lies because while \nthe selected facts are true about some of those persons, the other members\nare actually defence lawyers and University science professors who wanted\nto fight corruption, uncover atrocities against opposition activists and\nShia minority, and generally increase awareness about the rights of all \ncitizens. The only thing that is common between those people is their concern\nfor the deterioration of human rights since the Saudi clan took a green\nlight from AMerica (after the gulf) to do whatever is necessary to stay\nin power. \n\n\nDo you know that ALL OF THE SAUDI ULEMA have been taught the same things?\nthe ones in the official Iftaa are as conservative as the ones that are\nopposing it. SOme of the members of the human rights committe are MORE\nPRO-WOMEN and wanted to defend them, and that is precisely one reason that\nBin Bez's Fatwah  implied for the \"Illegality \" of this committee\nand  for his claim that it represents \"Outside interests\"\n\nThere is a human rights issue in Saudi ARabia, and YOU and NY times chose\nto ignore the main issue and select some of the members of that committee\nand actually defend the actions done against them (including banning them\nfrom their Jobs.\n\nWhat a hypocricy. I am not surprised really, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME.\n\nThe official Ulema are the most extremist anti-women meat-heads in Saudi\nArabia, the west continues on its campaign to discredit itself in the\nMuslim community, by supporting them. Well after Bosnia, I guess it has\nZERO credibility to begin with, so what the heck.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Hi\n\nI would like to know if there is any software, PD or not, who\ncould produce X11 output of HPGL file on RS\/6000. And same kind of\nsoftware who could produce hardcopy on postscript and lasetjet.\n\nThank You","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"For Sale:\n\nGraphOn 21 X-Terminal\n-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\n\n Monitor adjustable between landscape and portrait orientation\n 1280x1024 Landscape resolution\n 1024x1280 Portrait resolution\n 21\" diagonal screen with very small footprint\n RS-232\/423\/422 support\n Thin and thick ethernet connectors\n VT220 and VT100 emulation\n Additional software for Sun machines provided\n\n Price: $1500.00\n\n shipping extra (heavy: ~50lbs)\n\nSend email, offers, flames to:","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nPerhaps you have a different understanding of what \"physics\" is.  If we\ncan't measure anything objectively, then the answers we get from physics\naren't objective either.  That's what I mean when I say there's no objective\nphysics.\n\nSure, we can all agree that (say) F = GMm\/r^2, but that's maths.  It's only\nphysics when you relate it to the real world, and if we can't do that\nobjectively, we're stuck.  (Of course, this displays my blatant bias towards\napplied science; but even theoretical physics gets applied to models of real\nworld situations, based on real world observations.)\n\n\nIt's an axiom that it's invariant.  But if the two of us measure it, we'll\nget different answers.  Yes, we call that experimental error, but it's not\nreally \"error\" in the conventional sense; in fact, if you don't get any,\nthat's an error :-)\n\nYou could argue that the value of c is \"objective, to within +\/- <some\nvalue>\".  But I'd call that a rather odd usage of the word \"objective\", and\nit opens the way for statements like \"Murder is objectively wrong for all\npeople, to within 1% of the total population.\"\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n[DD] Not taking sides leaves one in a state of perpetual indecision because \n[DD] both sides in this issue have their own logic at any given time. As an \n[DD] Armenian I am partisan -- by definition. However, this does give me the \n                                                                ^\n                                                                |\n                                   obviously a \"not\" goes here--+ as \n                                   evidenced by the context.\n\n[DD] license to lie, cover-up, or revise events under question as we have read \n[DD] on UseNet in postings by agents of the Turkish government. I understand \n[DD] both sides of the issue, but this does not mean I will advocate both sides\n[DD] when it suits me. Such a position would make me a hypocrite. I am also not\n[DD] being paid by agents of Turkey nor Azerbaijan as are many proponents of \n[DD] the Azeri side. I refer to agents such as Captioline International Group,\n[DD] Ltd., being paid in excess of $30,000\/month by Azerbaijan. I state my case\n[DD] unencumbered by such advocacy or prostitution. \n\nThanks to Mr. CG.\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Here is something crossposted from the AHL mailing list:\t\t\t\n\nIn a discussion between me and Chris Lerch, the subject of Springfield's \n1st round upset of the Providence Bruins\ncame up. Chris basically raised the possibility that the AHL \nhierarchy is biased in favor of the Indians. He noted that the offices\nfor the league are in Spring. and many ex-Indians are working for the AHL.\nFurthermore, he also informed me that back a few years ago in the Cup \nfinals between Roch and Spring, that the Amerks charged favoritism by the office\nand that:\n\n\"...there were little questionable things liket he AHL president and\nstaff attending all games with the Springfield brass, including sitting\nin their box for the game in Springfield and, according to the Rochester\nmedia, openly cheering for Springfield.\"\n\nCertainly this is something that is quite serious if any of this\nis true. I don't know if this is anything more than whining on the\npart of the Amerks (they have pulled this sort of crap against the\nWings before) but if true, this is somthing that seriously raises\nquestions about President Jack Butterfield's leadership.\n\nBTW- This was posted with the permission of Chris","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nIf you want parallels the best source is probably the book _Temple\nand Cosmos_ by Hugh Nibley.  It is not light reading however.\n\nAs to why these early practices \"only parallel\" and do not exactly\nduplicate the modern LDS ceremony, there are a couple of reasons:\n\n1.  Quite likely we do not have the exact original from ancient\ntimes.  This stuff was not commonly known but bits and pieces\nundoubtedly spread.  (Much as bits and pieces of the modern ceremony\nget known.)  What we have in the 40 day literature, the Egyptian\nceremonies, and certain Native American ceremonies is almost\ncertainly not exactly what Jesus taught.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"If companies compressed their executables with LZW andd did some kind of\nencryption in the process, this \"change two bytes here\" thing would go right\nout the window.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\nI'm working on a project that involves storing an application's rendering\nto an X display and then playing it back again.  Rather than \n\"reinvent the wheel\", it like to find:\n\t* a file format for saving X protocol.\n\t* software that saves and replays such a session.\n\nAny ideas out there?  I've heard that there is a version of Xscope\nthat will save and replay sessions.\n\nI'd be willing to share much of the code I develop back to the X community.\n\n\nAxel............","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Posted on behalf of Craig Southeren who does not have access to\na net account:\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nCan anyone provide me with a colour space transform that would\nemulate the effects of red\/green colour blindness? I have had\na quick look in the computer graphics literature with no results.\nPerhaps someone who has access to medical information could help?\n\nI would like to write a program (probably a PPM filter) to allow\npreviewing of images to check for sufficient contract for colour\nblind users. Not being colour blind myself, this is a bit difficult!\n\nPlease email replies - I will summarise and repost if there is\nsufficient interest\n\n    Craig\n\n\n---------------------------------------------------------------------\nCraig Southeren                      |  \"You can have it good, cheap,\nChief Engineer,                      |   or fast. Any two.\"\nPicture Start Productions            |      Arthur C. Clarke\nemail: c\/- geoffw@ucc.su.OZ.AU       | \nphone: +61 2 959 5550                |  \"Educate - don't legislate\"","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I need to duplicate a bunch of floppy disks (3.5\") and ideally would like to\nbe able to keep 2 to 4 floppies busy simultaneously on a single PC.\n[Yes, I know that services to do this exist.] \n\nI know that standard ISA bus floppy controllers can only have one drive active\nat a time. I know that some controllers are available that can handle 4 \nfloppies with serialized access. I know that microchannel machines can keep \nmore than one floppy active simultaneously. But does anyone have a controller \nfor an ISA bus PC that can simultaneously keep 2 to 4 floppies going?\nHow about for an EISA machine?\n\nIf the limitation is a software limitation, I can work around that by using\nOS\/2 1.3 on my PC-286.\n\nNew or used, I'm interested.\n\n\n\norville","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nCompared to the Second Amendment?  I think it's worse.\n\nThe problem is, the devil is in the details.  You know, the Brady Bill\nsounds like a \"good idea\" too, until you discover that there is NO check,\nand that the police DON'T have to allow your purchase even if you check\nout, and that you have NO recourse if they don't.\n\nAre there any loopholes here?  I'm no lawyer, I can't be sure.  I\nwould have never noticed the second one mentioned above in the Brady\nBill, for example.\n\nThe more words involved, the more details.  What was that saying about\nAbraham Lincoln requiring 200 words to free the slaves, and the modern\nCongress requiring 3,000,000 words to describe price controls on rice?\n\n\nThat only works with bad laws.  Good laws are like good computer programs.  \nQuality has to be written in from the start, not added on later.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
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{"text":"\n{> \n{> \n{> >What is the difference between the US Robotics Courier v32bis external and t\n{> >Sportster 14400 external? I see that the price of a Sportster has dramatical\n{> >dropped to below $200 but the price of the Courier remains above $400.\n{> >\n{> >Anyone with knowledge of both of these modems or anyone that owns a Courier?\n{> \n{> The Sportster at 14.4 has v.42 error control and v.42 bis data compression.\n{> This is becoming standard on all these high speed modems.  The difference\n{> with the Courier, is that it can run at 16.8 and only in the HST mode. \n\nThe courrier will not run at 16800 only the Dual Standard HST (the USR\nmodem over $600)  my courrier will do up to 14,400 and with compression\nerror correction, much more. it will do v.32 v.32bis v.42 v.42bis\nv.22 etc. etc and ASL too. (whatever asl is)\n\n                                                       -David\n\n=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nThe experience you describe is why I don't like to sit with my bike in\ngear - I figure there's a chance that I'll be startled in some way and\nstall my bike.  And I figure this is more likely than the chance that\nI'll be unable to escape some situation because of the extra time\nneeded to put the bike in gear.\n\nSo I concentrate on avoiding situations rather than making split-second\nevasive manuvers.  I split lanes so I'm not at the end of the line.\n(Unfortunately this is not legal in most of the country)  If I can't\nsplit (perhaps there isn't room) then I will stop near one side of the\nlane so I have an easy escape, and leave my bike in gear until the next\ncar has stopped.  I watch in my mirrors in the mean time to make sure\nit will!  Whether I really would have time to move should a car fail to\nstop, I haven't had to find out yet.  Some cars have an annoying habbit\nof racing up behind you before braking heavilly, so it can be hard to\ntell if they are planning to brake or not!\n\nSo in summary, position yourself for an easy exit, and then watch your\nmirrors until it's all clear.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
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{"text":"I have a few the original IBM 10Mb harddisks for sale. They are actually\nSeagate's ST412, MFM, full height,  has the IBM logo and black face plate. \n \n  Each disk is checked and formatted with DOS 6.0. It can be doubled to \n20Mb or so with dblspace or stacker if you so desire.  Have the original IBM\nfoam fitted boxies and anti-static bags. I am not sure if they were ever \nused, but each drive that is sent out will be quarenteed in good working order. \n \n $30 each plus shipping cost, (about $5), ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Hello,\n        my name is John and I have the following comic books for sale - please\nfeel free to make a bid if you'd like.  Add one dollar for shipping (USA). \nRemember to e-mail your replies to OETH6050@iscsvax.uni.edu - as I am not a\nregular on this group.  thank you.\n \nMarvel---------\nSilver Surfer (current series) #1 (3 copies)\nX-factor #1 (2 copies)\nExcalibur #1 (the first square bound )\nThe Punisher #1 (2 copies)\n \nDC Comics--------------\nWatchmen #1-12 (one copy each)\nThe Omega Men #1,2,3 (#3 is the first Lobo appearance]\nGreen Arrow the longbow hunters #1 (3 copies - all autographed by Mike Grell)\n                                #2 (2 copies)\n                                #3 (only one copy :(   )\n\nAlternate Comic Companies -------------------\nGet this......\n        Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (not reprints!)\n                #2 (auto graphed by Kevin Eastman)\n                #3, and #4\nMichaelangelo #1\nDonatello #1\n\n \nAliens (by DarkHorse Press)  #1 (2 copies)\n \nWhitman Comics (1978) ----------------\nStar Trek #54 (autographed by James Doohan - you know \"Scotty\")","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Updated April 27, 1993.  \n\nMost comics here are priced at 40% below the Overstreet Price Guide, all\ncomics are in near mint to mint condition.\n\nTITLE                                                   PRICE   \n--------------------------------------------------------------\nAlpha Flight 13 (Wolverine appears)                   \t$ 7.20\n\t     50 (Double Size)\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t     51 (Jim Lee's first work at Marvel)\t$ 5.40\nAmazing Spider-Man 267 (Peter David script, Human Torch)$ 2.10\n                275 (r\/origin Spiderman, Hobgoblin)     $ 7.20\n                276 (Hobgoblin appears)                 $ 5.40\n                284 (Punisher, Hobgoblin appear)        $ 5.40\n                293 (Kraven appears)                    $ 4.80 \n                294 (Kraven appears)                    $ 4.80\n                306 (Todd McFarlane)                    $ 6.00\n                312 (Hobgoblin vs Green Goblin)         $10.80\n                315 (Venom appears)                     $ 9.00\n\t\t320 (Todd McFarlane art)\t\t$ 4.20\n\t\t321 (Todd McFarlane art)\t\t$ 4.20\n                323 (Silver Sable, Paladin, C. America) $ 4.20\n\t\t324 (Sabretooth appears)\t\t$ 7.20\n                325 (Red Skull, Captain America)        $ 4.20\n                328 (Hulk appears, last McFarlane)      $ 4.40\n                330 (Punisher appears)                  $ 2.40\n                331 (Punisher appears)                  $ 2.40\n                337 (Hobgoblin appears)                 $ 2.10\n\t\t338\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.40\n\t\t342\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.40\n\t\t343\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.40\n                344 (Intro Cletus Kassady - Carnage)    $ 4.20\n\t\t346 (Venom appears)\t\t\t$ 4.20\n\t\t347 (Venom appears)\t\t\t$ 4.20\n\t\t348\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.20\n\t\t349\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.20\n\t\t350 (52 pages)\t\t\t\t$ 1.80\n\t\t351\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.20\n\t\t352\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.20\n\t\t353\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.20\n\t\t354\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.20\n\t\t355 (Punisher appears)\t\t\t$ 1.20\n\t\t356 (Punisher appears)\t\t\t$ 1.20\n\t\t357 (Punisher appears)\t\t\t$ 1.20\n\t\t358 (Punisher appears)\t\t\t$ 1.20\n\t\t365 (1st App Spider-Man 2099, Holo-c)\t$ 3.60\n        Annual 24                                       $ 2.10\n        Annual 25 (1st solo Venom story)                $ 4.20\n        Annual 26 (New Warriors, Venom)                 $ 3.00\nArcher and Armstrong 1 (Frank Miller\/Smith\/Layton)\t$ 9.00\n\t\t     9 \t\t\t\t\t$ 2.50 \n\t\t     10\t\t\t\t\t$ 2.50\nAvengers 272 (Alpha Flight appears)\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t 300 (68 Pages, new team)\t\t\t$ 1.50\n\t 306\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t 324 (Alpha Flight appears)\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t 329 (New team)\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t Annual 15\t\t\t\t\t$ 2.10\n\t Annual 18\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.80\n\t Annual 19\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.50\nBatman Legends of the Dark Knight 1 (blue cover)        $ 3.30\n\t\t\t\t  3 \t\t\t$ 1.30\nBatman Shadow of the Bat 1 (still in polybag)           $ 5.00\nBatman Versus Predator 1 (Prestige edition, Predator)\t$ 4.20\n\t\t       1 (Prestige edition, Batman)\t$ 4.20\nBatman Year One (trade paperback, 1st printing)         $ 8.40\nBloodshot 1 (Chromium cover, BWSmith Cover\/Poster)\t$ 7.00\n\t  3\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 2.50\n\t  4\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 2.50\n\t  5\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 2.50\nDaredevil 131 (Origin Bullseye)                         $16.00\n          138 (Ghost Rider, Death's Head early app)     $11.00\n          158 (Frank Miller art begins)                 $40.00\n          159 (Deathstalker appears, Frank Miller art)  $20.00\n          169 (Elektra 2nd appearance, Bullseye)        $ 4.50\n          170 (Bullseye, Kingpin appear)                $ 3.00\n          182 (Punnisher appears, Frank Miller art)     $ 6.60\n          183 (Punnisher appears, Frank Miller art)     $ 6.60\n          184 (Punnisher appears, Frank Miller art)     $ 6.60\n          196 (Wolverine appears)                       $ 7.20\nDarkhawk 2 (Spider-Man and Hobgoblin appear)            $ 6.00\nDark Horse Presents 1 (1st app Concrete, 1st printing)\t$ 7.20\n\t\t    5 (Concrete appears)\t\t$ 2.40\n\t\t    25 \t\t\t\t\t$ 1.80\n\t\t    32 (Annual)\t\t\t\t$ 2.40\n\t\t    37 \t\t\t\t\t$ 1.20\n\t\t    42 (Aliens appear)\t\t\t$ 3.00\nDazzler 1 (X-Men appear)\t\t\t\t$ 1.20\n\t40\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t41\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t42 (Beast appears)\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\nDeathlok 1                                              $ 2.40\nDeathstroke the Terminator 1 (1st printing)             $ 4.80\n                           2                            $ 3.00\nDefenders 125 (Intro New Defenders)                     $ 1.80\n\t  152 (Double size, X-Factor appears)\t\t$ 2.00\nDemon 13 (Lobo appears)\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n      14 (Lobo appears)\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n      15 (Lobo appears)\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\nEternal Warrior 1 (Miller cover)\t\t\t$11.00\n\t\t2 \t\t\t\t\t$ 7.00\n\t\t9\t\t\t\t\t$ 2.50\n\t\t10\t\t\t\t\t$ 2.50\n\t\t11\t\t\t\t\t$ 2.50\nFantastic Four 112 (Hulk vs. The Thing)                 $25.00\n\t       337 (Simonson art begins)\t\t$ 1.00\n\t       338 (Simonson art)\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t       339 (Simonsom art)\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t       344 (Simonson art)\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t       345 (Simonson art)\t\t\t$ 1.00\n               347 (Art Adams cover art, Wolverine)     $ 3.00\n               348 (Ghost Rider\/Wolverine appear)       $ 1.80\n               349 (Ghost Rider\/Wolverine appear)       $ 1.80\n               350 (52 pages)                           $ 1.50\n\t       351 \t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t       352 (Simonson art)\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t       353 (Simonson art)\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t       354 (Simonson art)\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t       355 \t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t       356 (Fantastic Four vs New Warriors)\t$ 1.00\n               358 (80 page 30th anniversary issue)     $ 2.00 \n\t       359\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t       360\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t       361\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t       362\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t       Annual 24\t\t\t\t$ 1.20\nFlash 27\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n      28\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n      48\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n      50\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n      53 (Superman\/Flash race)\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\nGhost Rider 1 (May 1990, Origin, Double Size)\t\t$15.00\n\t    15 (Glow in the dark cover, 1st print)\t$ 5.40\n\t    16 (Spider-man\/Hobgoblin cover and story)   $ 2.10\n            17 (Spider-man\/Hobgoblin cover and story)   $ 2.10\nGhost Rider and Cable 1\t(Sam Keith cover)\t\t$ 4.00\nGhost Rider and Captain America: Fear\t\t\t$ 5.00\nGuardians of the Galaxy 25 (Prism foil cover)           $ 2.50\nHarbinger 10 (1st Appearance H.A.R.D. Corps)\t\t$ 7.00\n\t  16\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 3.00\n\t  17\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 2.50\n\t  18\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 2.50\nH.A.R.D. Corps 1 \t\t\t\t\t$ 5.00\n\t       6 \t\t\t\t\t$ 2.50\n\t       7\t\t\t\t\t$ 2.50\nHavok and Wolvreine: Meltdown 1\t\t\t\t$ 3.00\nIncredible Hulk 324 (1st app Grey Hulk since #1, 1962)\t$ 6.00\n                327                                     $ 1.20\n\t\t330 (1st McFarlane issue)\t\t$15.00\n\t\t331 (Grey Hulk series begins)\t\t$ 9.60\n                376 (Keown art, Grey vs Green Hulk)     $ 3.60\n                377 (1st all new hulk, 1st prnt, Keown) $12.00\n                385 (Keown c\/a)                         $ 2.40\n                388 (Keown c\/a)                         $ 2.40\n                389 (Keown c\/a)                         $ 2.40\n                390 (Keown c\/a)                         $ 2.40\n\t\t392 (Keown c\/a)\t\t\t\t$ 2.40\n\t\t393 (Green foil stamped cover, Keown)\t$ 4.80\nInfinity Gauntlet 1 (Perez painted cover. Thanos)       $ 6.00\n                  2 (Thanos)                            $ 3.60\n                  3 (Thanos)                            $ 2.40\nJustice League America 46\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t       47\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t       50\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t       52\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\nJustice League Quarterly 1\t\t\t\t$ 2.10\nJustice Society of America 1  (April 1991)\t\t$ 1.00\nKamandi 1 (Origin Kamandi, Kirby art)                   $25.00\n        2 (Kirby art)                                   $15.00\n        3 (Kirby art)                                   $ 9.00\n        7 (Kirby art)                                   $ 5.00\nLast Generation 1                                       $ 2.10\nMagnus Robot Fighter 21 (New direction & logo begins)\t$ 5.00\n\t\t     23\t\t\t\t\t$ 3.00\n\t\t     24\t\t\t\t\t$ 2.50\nMarc Spector Moon Knight 25 (Ghost Rider appears)\t$ 2.10\nMarvel Comics Presents 1 (Wolverine, Silver Surfer)     $ 6.00\n\t\t       2 (Wolverine, Master of KungFu)\t$ 3.00\n\t\t       3 (Wolverine, Master of KungFu)\t$ 3.00\n\t\t       4 (Wolverine, Master of KungFu)\t$ 3.00\n\t\t       5 (Wolverine, Daredevil)\t\t$ 3.00\n\t\t       6 (Wolverine, Hulk)\t\t$ 2.40\n\t\t       7 (Wolverine, Submariner)\t$ 2.40\n\t\t       10 (Wolverine, Man-Thing)\t$ 2.40\n\t\t       11 (Man-Thing, Ant-Man)\t\t$ 1.20\n\t\t       12 (Man-Thing, Colossus)\t\t$ 1.20\n\t\t       13 (Black Panther, Shanna)\t$ 1.20\n                       14 (Black Panther, Nomad)        $ 1.20\n\t\t       17 (Ron Lim art, Black Panther)\t$ 1.20\n\t\t       18 (Ron Lim art, Black Panther)\t$ 1.20\n\t\t       19 (Rob Liefeld art, Cyclops)\t$ 1.20\n\t\t       20 (Ron Lim art, Black Panther)\t$ 1.20\n\t\t       21 (Ron Lim art, Black Panther)\t$ 1.20\n\t\t       22 (Ron Lim art, Black Panther)\t$ 1.20\n                       25 (Nth Man, Havok, Blk Panther) $ 1.20\n\t\t       26 (Black Panther, Havok, Hulk)\t$ 1.20\n\t\t       27 (Black Panther, Havok)\t$ 1.20\n\t\t       28 (Black Panther, Havok)\t$ 1.20\n\t\t       29 (Black Panther, Havok)\t$ 1.20\n\t\t       30 (Black Panther, Havok)\t$ 1.20\n\t\t       31 (Erik Larsen, Excalibur)\t$ 1.20\n\t\t       42 (Wolverine)\t\t\t$ 1.80\n                       52 (Rob Liefeld, Wolverine)      $ 1.80\n                       60 (Wolverine, Hulk)             $ 3.60\n                       62 (Jackson Guice, Deathlok)     $ 4.80\n                       63 (Poison, Thor, Scarlet Witch) $ 2.40\n                       64 (Mark Texiera, Ghost Rider)   $ 2.70 \n                       65 (Mark Texiera, Ghost Rider)   $ 2.70\n                       66 (Mark Texiera, Ghost Rider)   $ 2.70\n                       67 (Mark Texiera, Ghost Rider)   $ 2.70\n                       72 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)         $ 4.80\n\t\t       73 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)\t\t$ 2.40\n\t\t       75 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)\t\t$ 1.80\n\t\t       76 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)\t\t$ 1.80\n                       77 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X,Dracula) $ 1.80\n\t\t       80 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)\t\t$ 1.80\n\t\t       81 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)\t\t$ 1.50\n                       82 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)         $ 1.50\n                       83 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)         $ 1.50\n                       84 (B.W. Smith, Weapon X)        $ 1.50\n                       85 (1st Keith art and Jae Lee)   $ 3.60\n\t\t       88 (Keith, Wolverine, Beast)\t$ 2.40\n\t\t       97 (Ghost Rider, Cable)\t\t$ 1.20\n\t\t       104 (Wolverine, Ghost Rider)\t$ 1.00\n                       106 (Wolverine, Ghost Rider)     $ 1.00\nMaxx 1 (Sam Keith)                                      $ 3.00\nMetropol 1 (Ted McKeever)                               $ 3.00\nMighty Mouse 2\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t     4\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t     5\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t     6\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t     10\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\nMoon Knight 1 (1980)\t\t\t\t\t$ 2.60\n'Nam 6                                                  $ 1.50\n     7                                                  $ 1.50\n     52 (Frank Castle (Punisher))                       $ 2.70\nNew Mutants 18 (Intro new Warlock, Magus)               $ 5.40\n            88 (Rob Liefeld, 2nd Cable)                 $12.00\n            89 (Rob Liefeld, 3rd Cable)                 $ 9.00\n            90 (Rob Liefeld, Sabretooth appears)        $ 7.20\n            91 (Rob Liefeld, Sabretooth appears)        $ 7.20\n            93 (Rob Liefeld, Wolverine vs Cable)        $ 9.00\n            94 (Rob Liefeld, Wolverine vs Cable)        $ 9.00\n            98 (1st app Deadpool, Gideon, Domino)       $ 7.20\n            100 (1st app X-Force)                       $ 5.40\n\t    Annual 4 (Evolutionary War)\t\t\t$ 1.80\n\t    Annual 5 (1st Liefeld art on New Mutants)\t$10.80\n\t    Annual 6\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.20\n            Annual 7 (2nd app X-Force)                  $ 7.20\n\t    Summer Special 1 (Art Adams art)\t\t$ 1.80\nOlympians 1 (McFarlane)                                 $ 2.40\nOmega Men 3 (1st appearance Lobo)                       $ 6.00\n          10 (1st full Lobo story)                      $ 6.00\n          Annual 1                                      $ 1.00\n                 2                                      $ 1.00\nPower Man & Iron Fist 78 (3rd appearance Sabretooth)    $25.00\n                      84 (4th appearance Sabretooth)    $20.00\nPower Pack 27 (Wolverine and Sabretooth appear)         $ 6.00\nPredator: Big Game 3 (Contains trading cards)           $ 1.80\nPunisher 9 (Wilce Portacio)                             $ 6.60\nPunisher and Captain America: Blood and Glory 1\t\t$ 5.00\n\t\t\t\t\t      2 \t$ 5.00\n\t\t\t\t\t      3\t\t$ 5.00\nPunisher P.O.V 1 (Starlin script, Wrightson art)        $ 5.00\n               2 (Starlin script, Wrightson art)        $ 5.00\n               3 (Starlin script, Wrightson art)        $ 5.00\nPunisher War Journal 16 (Jim Lee art)\t\t\t$ 3.00 \n                     29 (Ghost Rider appears)           $ 1.50\n                     30 (Ghost Rider appears)           $ 1.50\n                     31                                 $ 1.10\n                     32                                 $ 1.10\n                     35                                 $ 1.10\n                     36                                 $ 1.10\n                     38                                 $ 1.10\n                     39                                 $ 1.10\n                     40                                 $ 1.10\nPunisher War Zone 1 (Die-cut cover)                     $ 2.50\n                  2                                     $ 1.50\nRagman 1 (Pat Broderick, Origin Ragman)                 $ 3.00\nRocketeer Special Edition (Dave Stevens art, 1984)\t$ 6.00 \nShadowman 13\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 2.50\n\t  14\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 2.50\nSimpsons Comics and Stories 1 (Polybagged special ed.)\t$ 7.50\nSolar Man of the Atom 18\t\t\t\t$ 3.00\n\t\t      19\t\t\t\t$ 2.75\n\t\t      20\t\t\t\t$ 2.75\n\t\t      21\t\t\t\t$ 2.50\n\t\t      22\t\t\t\t$ 2.50\nSpectacular Spider-Man 81 (Punisher appears)            $ 8.40\n                       93 (Answer appears)              $ 1.80\n                       94 (Cloak and Dagger appear)     $ 1.80\n                       95 (Cloak and Dagger appear)     $ 1.80\n                       99 (Spot appears)                $ 1.80\n                       116 (Sabretooth appears)         $ 3.00\n                       117 (Sabretooth appears)         $ 3.00\n                       119 (Sabretooth appears)         $ 3.00\n                       124 (Dr. Octopus appears)        $ 1.50\n                       130 (Hobgoblin appears)          $ 2.40\n                       131 (Kraven appears)             $ 3.60\n                       132 (Kraven appears)             $ 3.00\n                       140 (Punisher appears)           $ 1.80\n                       142 (Punisher appears)           $ 3.00\n                       143 (Punisher appears)           $ 3.00\n                       147 (1st app New Hobgoblin)      $12.00\n                       152 (Origin Lobo Bros, Punisher) $ 1.20\n\t\t       157\t\t\t\t$ 1.20\n\t\t       158 (Spider-Man gets new powers)\t$ 7.20\n\t\t       159 (Cosmic Spider-Man appears)\t$ 4.80\n\t\t       160\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n                       189 (1st ed Hologram, Hobgoblin) $ 4.80\n                       Annual 10 (McFarlane story)      $ 1.50\nSpider-Man 1 (Gold edition, direct sale)                $ 3.00\n           1 (Regular edition, green, unbagged)         $ 3.00\n           5 (Lizard, Calypso appear, McFarlane)        $ 2.40\n           6 (Hobgoblin, Ghost Rider appear)            $ 3.60\n           7 (Hobgoblin, Ghost Rider appear)            $ 3.60\n           13 (Black costume returns)                   $ 3.00\n           14 (Black costume, Morbius appear)           $ 2.00\n           18 (Sinister Six, Hulk appear)               $ 2.00\n           19 (Hulk, Deathlok appear)                   $ 2.00\n\t   20 \t\t\t\t\t\t$ 2.00\n\t   26 (Origin retold, hologram cover)\t\t$ 3.00\nStar Trek the Next Generation 1 (Feb 1988, DC mini)     $ 6.00 \nStar Trek the Next Generation 1 (Oct 1989, DC comics)   $ 5.40\n                              2                         $ 3.60\nStrange Adventures (dozens, but in varying high grades) ASK\nSwamp Thing 72                                          $ 1.00\n            73 (John Constantine appears)               $ 1.00\n            Annual 3                                    $ 1.20\nTales of the Teen Titans 44 (Deathstroke app\/orogin)    $ 4.80\nTerminator 1 (Dark Horse)                               $ 3.60\nTerminator: Secondary Objectives 1                      $ 1.80\nTerminator 2 Judgement Day 1                            $ 1.00\nThor 374 (Mutant Massacre, X-Factor, Sabretooth app)    $ 4.80\n     429 (Ghost Rider appears)\t\t\t\t$ 1.80\n     430 (Ghost Rider appears)\t\t\t\t$ 1.80\nWarlock and the Infinity Watch 2 (Starlin scripts)\t$ 2.40\n\t\t\t       3\t\t\t$ 1.50\n                               4                        $ 1.40\n\t\t\t       5 \t\t\t$ 1.40\n\t\t\t       6\t\t\t$ 1.40\n                               7                        $ 1.10\n                               8                        $ 1.10\n                               9 (Gamora vs Thanos)     $ 1.10\nWeb of Spider-Man 2\t\t\t\t\t$ 4.20\n\t\t  3\t\t\t\t\t$ 4.20\n\t\t  4\t\t\t\t\t$ 3.00\n\t\t  5\t\t\t\t\t$ 3.00\n\t\t  8 (Thunder appears)                   $ 2.70\n                  16 (Magma appears)                    $ 2.00\n                  18                                    $ 2.00\n                  20                                    $ 2.00\n                  21                                    $ 2.00\n                  30 (Origin Rose, Hobgoblin appears)   $ 7.20\n\t\t  47 (Hobgoblin appears)\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t  52\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t  66 (Green Goblin as super-hero)\t$ 1.20\n\t\t  67 (Green Goblin as super-hero)\t$ 1.20\n\t\t  68 \t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t  71 \t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t  72 \t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t  73\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t  74\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t  75\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t  76\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t  77\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t  78\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t  79\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t  80\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t  81\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t  82\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t  83\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t  84 (Rose & Hobgoblin story)\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t  85 (Rose & Hobgoblin story)\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t  86 (Rose & Hobgoblin story)\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t  87 (Rose & Hobgoblin story)\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t  90 (Hologram cover, polybagged)\t$ 3.60\n\t\t  91\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t\t  Annual 3\t\t\t\t$ 1.75\nWerewolf by Night 33 (2nd appearance Moon Knight)       $20.00\n                  37 (Moon Knight appears)              $ 5.00\nWolverine 10 (Before claws, 1st battle with Sabretooth)\t$14.40\n\t  41 (Sabretooth claims to be Wolverine's dad)\t$ 6.00\n\t  42 (Sabretooth proven not to be his dad)\t$ 3.00\n\t  43 (Sabretooth\/Wolverine saga concludes)\t$ 2.40\nWolverine 1 (1982 mini-series, Miller art)\t\t$18.00\nWonder Woman 267 (Return of Animal Man)                 $13.00\n             Annual 1                                   $ 1.75\n                    2                                   $ 1.75\nX-Factor 47                                             $ 1.00\n         51 (Sabretooth appears)                        $ 3.00\n         52 (Sabretooth appears)                        $ 3.00\n         53 (Sabretooth appears)                        $ 3.00\n\t 57 \t\t\t\t\t\t$ 1.00\n\t 62 (X-Tinction Agenda, Jim Lee cover)\t\t$ 3.60\n\t 63 (Whilce Portacio art begins)\t\t$ 3.60\n         69 (Whilce Portacio art)                       $ 1.20\n         70 (Last \"Old Team\" issue)                     $ 1.20\n         Annual 6 (New Warriors, X-Force appear)        $ 1.30\nX-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, X-Force card)     $25.00\n        1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Shatterstar card) $15.00\n        1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Deadpool card)    $15.00\n        1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Sunspot\/Gideon)   $15.00\n        1 (Bagged, Cable card)                          $ 3.60\nX-O Manowar 13\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 3.00\n            15\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 3.00\n\t    16\t\t\t\t\t\t$ 3.00\n\nAll comics are in near mint to mint condition, are bagged in shiny \npolypropylene bags, and backed with white acid free boards.  Shipping is\n$1.50 for one book, $3.00 for more than one book, or free if you order \na large enough amount of stuff.  I am willing to haggle.\n\nI have thousands and thousands of other comics, so please let me know what \nyou've been looking for, and maybe I can help.  Some titles I have posted\nhere don't list every issue I have of that title, I tried to save space.\n\nI am willing to trade for other comics, computer equipment, video\nequipment, audio equipment, etc...  Let me know what you want to trade!","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nYes.  Here's what you should do.\n\nKeep the vertices in an array, and have the polygons (triangles are okay,\nbut n-sided polygons are slightly more efficient) store the indices into\nthe array of the vertices that comprise them.  You set a flag for each\nvertex when you transform it, so you don't have to transform any vertex\nmore than once; you also do backface elimination before processing the\npolygon, so that vertices that belong only to bacfacing polys don't have\nto be transformed at all.\n\nWhenever you transform a vertex, check if it's on the far side of the hither\nplane; if it is, you can project it right away and store the result.\n\nThen do your Z clip; any vertices that get produced will have to have their\nprojection done at that stage.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"netnews.upenn.edu!newsserver.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!news.se\nervice.uci.edu!network.ucsd.edu!btree!terry\n\tWill they name Lindros captain next year or Recchi.\nGeoff\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Nikkor 70-210 AF for immediate sale. Excellent condition.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"(Ali's letter deleted for brevity)\n\n\nRoger,\nYour responses might just exclude you from sharing your opinions,\nthen.  You see, the same rights Ali has to mail her letter to the NHL\nare the same ones that let you post replies that mow her down like\nwheat at harvest-time.  She never said she represented the entire\ninternet or the entire group rec.sport.hockey.  She has every right to\nstate her opinion along with those of the fifty or sixty or\nhundred-odd folk who've agreed to allow her to list their names on the\nbottom of it.  You may not agree with it.  Fine.  I really don't care\nenough about the name change to care.  Your name isn't attached to it,\nso why moan and complain?  If you felt her words were leading, well,\nyou're free to feel that way and take exception, but manners never\nhurt.  I personally disagree and feel her generalizations were fine\n(I have the right to think and say that, too).  Ali's under no\ncompunction to change a single word.  Now, while you're free to\ndisagree with every word she wrote, to tear apart her character is\nuncalled for.  I'm posting this as a form of public reprimand.  If you\ntear down Ali's integrity and character publicly, you'll get chastised\npublicly in return.  Would it have been so hard to say, \"Ali, please\nbe a bit more specific in your description, the way I've read it\nindicates you're stating my view also, and that's simply not true.\nI'd really like to see a disclaimer noting that you don't mean the\nentire internet or the entire r.s.h. group attached to it, despite\nyour intent to list names at the bottom.  Thanks.  Cordially as\nalways,\" &c.  Calling her a moron and an asshole just reduces the\nweight of your words and the opinions of their author in the eyes of\nmyself, and possibly others.  \n\nOh, and Ali, nice to see someone standing up for something, even if\nit's not something I personally advocate.  :-)\n\n\n\n\n\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Original to: wats@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM\nG'day wats@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM\n\n20 Apr 93 18:17, wats@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM wrote to All:\n\n wAC> wats@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM (Bruce Watson), via Kralizec 3:713\/602\n\n wAC> The Apollo program cost something like $25 billion at a time when\n wAC> the value of a dollar was worth more than it is now. No one would\n wAC> take the offer.\n\nIf we assume 6% inflation since 1969, that $25B would be worth about $100B\nGD reckon a moon mission today could cost only $10B. Thats a factor of ten\nreduction in cost. It might be possible to reduce that number futher by\nusing a few shortcuts ( Russian rockets?).   Asuming it gets built, I think\nthe Delta Clipper could very well achive the goal.\n\nta\n\nRalph","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI heard yesterday that Pocklington was talking with folks at Copps\nthat afternoon (yesterday).  \n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nwhat does that make me for showing up with an old interceptor with worse\nbrakes and handling (due to bent frame) than a VMAX?  and i didn't even...\nuh....  well, i was more than semi-coherent when the ambulance....  uh....\n\nnevermind.\n\n\naxel\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I recently got a document describing the JPEG FIF (JFIF) file\nformat. I was looking thru it, but I didn't get the idea how\nto determine the size of a pic in pixel without decoding the\nwhole image.\n\nHow do you get the height and width of a JPEG in a JFIF?\n\nHow do you determine wether it is a color or a greyscale\npicture?\n\nI wrote a small tool (lsgif) for GIF that returns the\nfilesize, picture size and color resolution by analizing\nthe header chunks. The output looks like this:\n\n  157605  bla.gif                                  640x 480  248C24\n\nI use this lsgif to create index files of my archive and since\nJPEG are getting more and more popular I would like to have a\nsimilar tool for JFIF, with an output like this:\n\n   57605  bla.jpg                                  640x 480     C24\n\nPlease respond by email, because I don't read this news\ngroup very often. I'll post a summary if it is useful.\n\nThanx in advance,\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tLarry","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nYou should post his\/her email request, with proper attributes, of course, to\nthe newsgroup.  The request then becomes a matter of rec.moto public record\nand warrants the ceremonial gang-FAQing.\n\nGlad to help,\nRide safe,\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nAs David Veal points out, this sort of \"promotion\" would be used\nagainst gun owners by the mass media.\n\nHowever, here is my proposal: offer gun safety classes in your area,\nfree, as a community service.  Such a class would normally cost $40\nor $50, so offering it free is a good promotion.\n\nOur Gun Club has organized several of these (we just finished\nteaching another one last night, in fact) and they have been\nvery well received.  We get a lot of people who are novices\ninterested in guns.  We even get a few who are anti-gun, but\nfeel they should know something about \"gun safety\" since members\nof their family keep guns at home.\n\nTeaching such a course gives us many desirable benefits:\n\n(1) We have the chance to teach gun safety rules; this increases\n    firearm awareness and may help to reduce gun accident stats.\n\n(2) A \"gun safety\" class is Politically Correct, and likely to\n    be viewed positively by the public and the media.\n\n(3) Most of the students are 'normal people' (not gun enthusiasts)\n    and this kind of class gives us the chance to give them a\n    gentle introduction to firearms.\n\n(4) Some of the students are enthusiastic, and will purchase a gun\n    and become more involved in shooting or personal defense.\n\n(5) It improves the public perception of our club and gun owners\n    in general.  Our students see that we are all reasonable,\n    non-aggressive, soft-spoken people, which helps to mitigate\n    the standard image of a hardcore gun owner.  Even anti-gun\n    students sometimes tell us they have \"something new to think\n    about\" with regards to personal gun ownership.\n\n(6) Sharing our experience with others is a lot of fun.\n\nOur course is the standard NRA-certified \"Home Firearm Safety\"\nclass, and our students pay only $5 for materials.  We also\nteach the NRA's \"Personal Protection\" class, although the cost\nis higher for that one since we have to purchase range time.\n\nI think firearms safety classes are an excellent response to\ngun buy-backs.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I have the following games for sale\/trade. Make an offer.\n\nTrouble Shooter\nWhere in Time is Carmen Sandiego?\n\n-- \nbrian\noplinger@ra.crd.ge.com","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Hi\n\nI am looking for an algorithm or pointers to any papers on how to convert\nQuadratic Splines to Cubic Splines or Beizeirs. If source is available\nin the public domain, please let me know.\n\nThanks very much\n\n-ks\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"!: Concerning the proposed newsgroup split, I personally am not in favor of\n!: doing this.  I learn an awful lot about all aspects of graphics by reading\n!: this group, from code to hardware to algorithms.  I just think making 5\n!: different groups out of this is a wate, and will only result in a few posts\n!: a week per group.  I kind of like the convenience of having one big forum\n!: for discussing all aspects of graphics.  Anyone else feel this way?\n!: Just curious.\n!\n!Yes. I also like knowing where to go to ask a question without getting\n!hell for putting it in the wrong newsgroup.\n\nI am also against splitting the group. The traffic will decrease\non any given subject but the required net bandwidth will INCREASE\nbecause of multiply cross-postings.\n\nI just went through this with another group I continuously read.\nIt is now almost at the point where it is no longer worth reading.\n\nStrongly suggest NOT doing this.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":":Hello,\n:I heard that a certain disease (toxoplasmosys?) is transmitted by cats which\n:can harm the unborn fetus. Does anybody know about it? Is it a problem to \n:have a cat in the same apartment?\n:\n\nHaving the cat around is not a problem, but the pregnant woman should not\nchange the litter box.  Toxoplasmosis can be transmitted from the stool of\nsome cats.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\tThis will not, of course, deter the several die-hard Koreshies on\nthis net, who will probably claim that the Tarrant County medical examiner\n(Dr. Peerwani) was coerced by the FBI into faking this evidence.  Either that,\nor they'll claim the FBI shot them.\n\tThe rest of us might contemplate the difficulty of determining the\ncause of death from a corpse that has been reduced to a Krispy Kritter.\n\t************************************************************\n\t*  \tThe_Doge of South St. Louis\t\t\t   *\n\t*\t\tDobbs-Approved Media Conspirator(tm)\t   *\n\t*\t\"One Step Beyond\"  -- Sundays, 3 to 5 pm\t   *\n\t*\t\t88.1 FM\t\tSt. Louis Community Radio  *\n\t*  \"You'll pay to know what you *really* think!\"           *\n\t*\t\t\t-- J.R. \"Bob\" Dobbs\"\t\t   *\n\t************************************************************\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I like to know how effective ProHibit is to prevent spiral meningitis\nfor a child who is five years old.  I heard it's from Canada.\nWhat sort of side effects , etc.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nAll gimmicks!  Stick with plain 'ol carnauba wax that's non-abrasive.\nEagle 1, Meguiars, Turtle Wax, and a few others are good examples.\nThe colored waxes just color in the scratches so they're not so \napparent.  The better approach is to buff minor scratches completely\noff with a cleaner\/mild abrasive.\n\nNever tried Liquid Glass, although I still have this sample they sent\nme a few years back. ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"This definately gets the car going, but... WD-40 is highly flammable. Explosive\neven in the right conditions, like a vapour sealed inside a distributor for\neg. And contact points tend to arc a tiny bit :)","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nThen by your logic, the Jews in Europe in the 1930's were the cause for\nthe Holocaust.  Hitler told them to leave and because they didn't they\nbrought the whole thing on themselves.  Because as you say, they could\nhave COME OUT of Germany.\n\n\n\n\nSame for the Jews in Europe 1930's.\n\n\nYou don't see any evidence of the abuse -- therefore it must be taking place?\nAs you point out everwhere but here, it is irrelevant to this case.  The\nATF is not in charge of investigating child abuse.\n\n\n\nIn obvious contradiction to the statements made by the F. B. I.\n\n\nAnd just what are those actions that you are judging them by?\nTheir refusal to let the government control their lives? Their refusal\nto submit to unconstitutional laws?  Their refusal to behave like\ncowards?  Some of Texas' heros could have taken the cowardly way\nout too and surrendered the Alamo.  After all, all they had to do was\nCOME OUT.  They stayed as you say by their \"OWN CHOICE\".  Problem\nis not everyone chooses to act like a groveling dog in the face of\ninsurmountable odds.  But as you point out, they certainly do have\nthat right.  \n\n\nBull.  They did, in fact, live a quiet, religious life -- as they claimed.\nThe warrant was not issued because they \"stockpiled weapons\".  It is\nnot against the law to own as many guns as you want -- yet (Except in \nVirginia).The warrant was issued for some \"gun parts\" that are about the size \nof a half-dollar.  Certainly worth the lives of so many people, don't you \nthink?\n\n\nYou can forget that WE business.  I certainly do blame them.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nPrice reduced: asking $165 only!\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I thought I'd share a good experience, too.  I bought the APS Quantum 240 zero\nfootprint drive in May '92 (back when they still used two separate LEDs on the\nfront panel and the case was metal).  While traveling with it (it was in my\nSE\/30 Mac bag, on top of the Mac) this past winter, one of the plastic tabs\nholding the front panel on broke, so that the right side of the front panel\nwas coming forward away from the rest of the drive.  I lived with this situation\nuntil it became completely intolerable (which more or less coincided with a\nnetwork shutdown at school and a trip out of town I had to take, which gave me\nsome dead time during which to have the drive sent out).\n\nI called APS for an RMA # and got one, with no questions asked about how the\ntab got broken (it was handled a little roughly by airline baggage handlers --\nthough nothing else was damaged [well, except for the internal speaker in my\nmodem, which wasn't that well glued down to begin with] -- yeah, yeah, I'm\nnever flying with my SE\/30 again).  And when I called back to ask whether I\ncould send it in a little later rather than right away, they had no problem\nwith that -- even when I exceeded the normal valid period for an RMA # by a\nday (they're usually good for 10 days).  The front panel was replaced under\nwarranty, and the drive was shipped back quickly (I mailed it first class\ninsured on a Saturday by noon from L.A. to Missouri, and it came back by Fed\nEx by Friday [I don't know exactly what day it came back because I was\ntraveling that week from Wednesday afternoon to Sunday afternoon]).\n\nThe only thing that could've been bad was that the first service rep I talked\nto, in an attempt to prevent jeopardizing my data, suggested that I take the\ndrive mechanism out and send just the case.  Unfortunately, I discovered the\nday I was mailing the thing, that would necessitate breaking the little\nseal and thus voiding the warranty!  Oh, well.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n+>1.  There is no such thing as non-toxic tear gas.  Tear gas is non-breathable\n+>    remaining in it's presence will cause nausea and vomiting, followed eventually\n+>    by siezures and death.  Did the FBI know the physical health of all the people\n+>    they exposed??  Any potential heart problems among the B-D's??\n\n\tThey certainly knew that there were pregnant women in there plus \nchildren.  I could not believe when they said that the gassing was\nan attempt to \"save the children\" yesterday.  I can't think of a much\nworse sort of child abuse that pouring tear gas into a building.\n\n\n+>2.  Have you ever seen a tear gas canister??  Tear gas is produced by burning a\n+>    chemical in the can.  The fumes produced are tear gas.  The canister has a \n+>    warning printed on the side of it.  \"Contact with flamable material can result\n+>    in fire.\"  Now, how many of these canisters did they throw inside a building \n+>    they admited was a fire-trap??\n\n\tI have heard two things recently explaining this:\n\n\t1. They pumped the gas into the building from outside via some\n\tsort of pipe rather than by canister.\n\n\t2. The sort of tear gas they are using was described as some\n\tsort of powdery material that sticks to things.  Kind of\n\tlike a powder cloud.\n\n\tAnd once again, these are government lacky explainations and\n\tsince government stories always change, none or all of the\n\tinformation might not be true.\n\n\n+>This whole thing was a case of over-reaction by the officials at every step.\n+>I hope it is thoroughly investigated and the responsible parties are held\n+>accountable.  But that is highly unlikely when you figure they are going to\n+>be investigating themselves.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"For Sale 1989 Kawasaki TS (650) Tandum seating\nColor: White with Blue and Red.\nJet Ski runs great and looks good.\n\nZiemans Trailer with locking Utility Box.\nColor: Black\nZiemans Trailer is less than a year old.\n\nBoth have been garaged kept and well maintained.\n$4200.00 for both \n(To be sold as a set only)","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Does anyone have any experience or is familiar with the Cardinal P9000\nVL-Bus graphics card?  Would appreciate knowing what you think of its\ncapabilities.  Thanks.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"         A 180 degree V   Ya gotta love it !>\n\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I dont know about Saabs but whenever there is a 'long temr tset' in a magazine\nthey always say that tehy're are little annoying niggles which keep on occuring\nevery so often... I wouldn't expect that from such a 'quality' car.... why \ndoesn't anything like this ever happen on BMWs? Maybe coz they're 'quality'\ncars ;-) ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nDon't forget Robert Blake in \"Electra Glide in Blue\" (where else do\nyou get to see a full-dress Harley playing with dirt bikes?).\nAnd if you're going to count Smokey and the Bandit, then you darn\nwell better include \"Pee-Wee's Big Adventure\".\n\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I'm trying to connect a Mac SE modem port to a PC 25 way serial port,\ncan someone provide me with a wiring diagram for a null modem lead for\nthis setup.\n\nPlease use Email since my news feed is a bit quirky.\n\nThanks in advance\n\nSean Gordon","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
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{"text":"There are several programs on sumex that allow Macs with superdrives to\nread and write unix tar diskettes.\n---\n-- ","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"NHL PLAYOFF RESULTS FOR 4\/22\/93.\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n                  CONFERENCE SEMI-FINALS        BEST OF SEVEN\n      PATRICK              ADAMS              NORRIS              SMYTHE\n \n NJ                  BUF   (leads 3-0)   STL   (leads 2-0)   WIN               \n PIT   (leads 3-0)   BOS                 CHI                 VAN   (leads 2-0)\n\n NYI   (leads 2-1)   MON                 TOR                 LA    (tied  1-1) \n WAS                 QUE   (leads 2-1)   DET   (leads 2-0)   CAL              \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nQuebec Nordiques    (leads series 2-1)    1   0   0   0   -   1\nMontreal Canadiens                        0   1   0   1   -   2\n\n1st period: QUE, Sundin 1 - (Gusarov) 1:17\n\t \n2nd period: MON, Muller 1 - (Damphousse, Bellows) (pp) 1:30\n\n3rd period: NONE\n\n1 Overtime: MON, Damphousse 1 - (Bellows, Desjardins) (pp) 10:30\n\nPowerplay Opportunities-Nordiques 0 of 4\n\t\t\tCanadiens 2 of 6\n\nShots on Goal-\tNordiques  12   4  14   5  -  35\n\t\tCanadiens  11  14  13  12  -  50\n\nQuebec Nordiques--Hextall (2-1) (50 shots - 48 saves)\nMontreal Canadiens--Roy (1-2) (35 shots - 34 saves)\n\nATT-17,679\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nPittsburgh Penguins  (leads series 3-0)   1   0   3   -   4\nNew Jersey Devils                         1   1   1   -   3\n\n1st period: NJD, Guerin 1 - 1:03\n\t    PIT, McEachern 3 - (Straka) 9:36\n\t   \n2nd period: NJD, Holik 1 - (S.Stevens) 16:32\n\n3rd period: PIT, M.Lemieux 4 - (Murphy, Ramsey) 1:07\n\t    PIT, Taglianetti 1 - (Loney, Tippett) 7:05\n\t    PIT, Murphy 1 - (Francis, Tocchet) (pp) 9:31\n\t    NJD, Semak 1 - (Zelepukin) 9:44\n\nPowerplay Opportunities-Penguins 1 of 4\n\t\t\tDevils   0 of 5\n\nShots on Goal-\tPenguins   7  16  12  -  35\n\t\tDevils    16  11   5  -  32\n\nPittsburgh Penguins--Barrasso (3-0) (32 shots - 29 saves)\nNew Jersey Devils--Billington (0-1) (35 shots - 31 saves)\n\nATT-14,974\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nBoston Bruins                        1   0   2   0   -   3\nBuffalo Sabres  (leads series 3-0)   2   0   1   1   -   4\n\n1st period: BUF, Mogilny 4 - (LaFontaine, Hawerchuk) (pp) 1:33\n\t    BUF, Khmylev 1 - (Smehlik, Hannan) 4:42\n\t    BOS, Bourque 1 - (Oates, Donato) (pp) 17;33\n\n2nd period: NONE\n\n3rd period: BOS, Smolinski 1 - (Oates) 13:28\n\t    BUF, B.Sweeney 2 - (Khmylev, Carney) 14:56\n\t    BOS, Neely 3 - (Oates, Shaw) 15:57\n\n1 Overtime: BUF, Khmylev 2 - (Hawerchuk, LaFontaine) (pp) 1:05\n\nPowerplay Opportunities-Bruins 1 of 5\n\t\t\tSabres 2 of 7\n\nShots on Goal-\tBruins  11   8  15   0  -  34\n\t\tSabres  12  11   8   3  -  34\n\nBoston Bruins--Blue (0-1) (34 shots - 30 saves)\nBuffalo Sabres--Fuhr (3-0) (34 shots - 31 saves)\n\nATT-16,325\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nWashington Capitals                       1   1   1   0   -   3\nNew York Islanders   (leads series 2-1)   1   0   2   1   -   4\n\n1st period: NYI, Thomas 1 - 16:37\n\t    WAS, Burridge 1 - (May, Cavallini) 18:58\n\n2nd period: WAS, Carpenter 1 - (Ridley, Bondra) 6:18\n\n3rd period: WAS, Elynuik 1 - (Carpenter, Ridley) 6:15\n\t    NYI, Thomas 2 - (Turgeon, King) 11:11\n\t    NYI, Turgeon 3 - (Thomas, Hogue) 19:17\n\n1 Overtime: NYI, Ferraro 3 - (Hogue, Flatley) 4:46\n\nPowerplay Opportunities-Capitals  0 of 2\n\t\t\tIslanders 0 of 4\n\nShots on Goal-\tCapitals   10   8   6   1  -  25\n\t\tIslanders  10   6   8   6  -  30\n\nWashington Capitals--Tabaracci (1-2) (25 shots - 21 saves)\nNew York Islanders--Healy (2-1) (30 shots - 27 saves)\n\nATT-14,180\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nQualcomm had spare cycles in the DSPs for their new CDMA digital\ncellular phones. They wanted to put strong crypto into them since they\nhad the capacity. The government decided to \"discourage\" them.\n\nReally, none of this stuff is especially hard. All you need for a true\nprivate phone is an ISDN codec, a vocoder (either a chip or\nsoftware), an encryptor (a chip is fine, but software is more than\nfast enough), a V.32 or V.32bis modem module, and maybe a\nmicrocontroller to run the whole thing. Its easy to do, its cheap. And\nany \"normal\" company trying to put one out will likely get a visit\nfrom the boys in the dark suits from Washington, just like Qualcomm\ndid. I suspect that companies like Cylink are tolerated because their\nproducts are too expensive.\n\nHowever, no law yet stops one from building really private phones, in\nspite of the hints the administration has made when discussing the new\n\"crime bill\" and in connection with the Clipper\/Skipjack Big Brother\nchip. Someone out there WILL build a unit to do all this. Better yet,\nprehaps someone will produce a package that turns any 486 box with a\nsound card into a secure phone.\n\n--\nPerry Metzger\t\tpmetzger@shearson.com","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I remember a post from last year indicating that a \"pitch clock\" was tried\nin one of the minor leagues some time back and did not work.  I don't remember\nwhy they said that it did not work.  Anyone remember this?\n\nJody McDonnel on WIP in Phil. has been saying that a pitch clock was\ninevitable.  How would a pitch clock work on throws to first?\n\nAnother pair of suggestions:\n1. Remove the Balk rule.  It is the runners responsibility to stay \"safe\"\n   no matter what the pitcher does.\n\n2. If a pitcher throws to an occupied base more than X time (X = 3 to 5)\n   without successfully picking off the runner, the runner advances a base\n   as if walked.\n\nThe no-balk seems to give the pitcher the advantage.  The base-walk allows\nthe runner to \"challenge\" pitcher to throw over to the base.\n\n\nI too, find myself surfing when I know that it will be enough time between\neach pitch to allow the batter to adjust his \"jewlery\".\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"*****************************************************************************\n*                  Lyme Disease Electronic Mail Network                     *\n*                          LymeNet Newsletter                               *\n*****************************************************************************\n                      Volume 1 - Number 09 - 4\/26\/93\n\nI.    Introduction\nII.   Announcements\nIII.  News from the wires\nIV.   Questions 'n' Answers\nV.    Op-Ed Section\nVI.   Jargon Index\nVII.  How to Subscribe, Contribute and Get Back Issues\n\nI. ***** INTRODUCTION *****\n\nIn this issue of the Newsletter, we learn of the CDC's announced concern for\nthe \"resurgence of infectious diseases\" in the United States.  Thanks to\nJonathan Lord for sending me the UPI release.  The CDC announced they would\nfeature a new series of articles in the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly\nReport on these infectious diseases (LD is one of them).  We will keep you\nup to date on this series.\n\nIn addition, we feature a The Wall Street Journal article on the legal issues\nsurrounding LD.  We also look at Lyme's effects from the perspective of\nurologists in an abstract entitled \"Urinary Dysfunction in Lyme Disease.\"\n\nFinally, Terry Morse asks an intriguing question about a tick's habitat.\n\n-Marc.\n\n\nII. ***** ANNOUNCEMENTS *****\n\nSOURCE: The Lyme Disease Update\nSUBJECT: Call for Articles\n\nAttention Health Care Professionals:\n\nThe Lyme Disease Update would like to publish your articles on Lyme disease\ndiagnosis, Lyme treatment, and the effects on Lyme on Lyme patients' physical\nand mental health.\n\nThe LDU has a monthly circulation of 6,000.  Our mailing list includes Lyme\npatients, physicians, researchers, county health departments, and over 100\nLyme support groups nationwide.  We strive to give our readers up-to-date\ninformation on Lyme disease prevention, diagnosis, and treatment, and a\nsource for support and practical advice on living with Lyme disease.\n\nArticles for the LDU should be approximately 900 to 1200 words and should\naddress Lyme disease issues in non-scientific language.  To submit your\narticle, mail to: Lyme Disease Update\n                  P.O. Box 15711-0711\n                  Evansville, IN 47716\n      or FAX to:  812-471-1990\n\nOne year subscriptions to the Lyme Disease Update are $19 ($24 outside the\nUS).  Mail your subscription requests to the above address, or call\n812-471-1990 for more information.\n\n\nIII. ***** NEWS FROM THE WIRES ******\n\nSender: Jonathan Lord <jml4s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>\nSubject: RESURGENCE OF INFECTIOUS DISEASE CONCERNS CDC\nDate: Thursday April 15, 1993\n\nATLANTA (UPI) --   A resurgence of infectious diseases blamed on newly\nemerging viruses and bacteria pose a major challenge for the nation's\nhealth care system, federal health officials said Thursday.\n\nThe Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, reporting its latest\nfindings in an investigation of contaminated hamburger meat that\nsickened hundreds in 4 states and killed at least four, said it will\nput renewed emphasis on battling infectious diseases.\n\nPart of that emphasis includes a new series titled \"Emerging\nInfectious Diseases\" to be featured in the CDC's Morbidity & Mortality\nWeekly Report, which has a wide circulation in the health community.\nThe issue also will top the agenda of a two-day meeting of scientific\ncounselors to update the CDC's draft plan for dealing with the growing\nthreat of infectious ailments.\n\n\"This is an issue that has been coming and we do have a responsibility\nto deal with it,\" said Dr. Ruth Berkelman, deputy director of the CDC's\nNational Center for Infectious Diseases.\n\nThere were more cases of malaria in the U.S. in 1992 than in any year\nsince the 1960s, and Latin America is experiencing a cholera epidemic,\nthe first in this century, she said.\n\nResistance of disease-causing agents to antibiotics is also a problem.\n\"We are seeing much more antibiotic resistance than we have in the past\"\nBerkleman said.  She said even common ear infections frequently seen in\nchildren are becoming resistant to antibiotic treatment.\n\n\"Despite predictions earlier this century that infectious  diseases\nwould soon be eliminated as a public health problem, infectious diseases\nremain the major cause of death worldwide and a leading cause of illness\nand death in the United States,\" the CDC said.\n\nIt  cited  the  emergence since the 1970s of a \"myriad\" of newly\nidentified pathogens and syndromes, such as Escherichia coli O157:H7, a\ndeadly bacterial infection; the hepatitis C virus; HIV, the virus that\ncauses AIDS; Legionnaires disease; Lyme disease; and toxic shock syndrome.\n\n\"The incidences of many diseases widely presumed to be under control,\nsuch as cholera, malaria and tuberculosis, have increased in many areas,\"\nthe CDC said.  It said efforts at control and prevention have been\nundermined by drug resistance.\n\n=====*=====\n\nSOURCE:  WALL STREET JOURNAL\nREFERENCE: 04\/15\/93, pB1\nHEADLINE: Lyme-Disease Ruling Raises Liability Issues\n\nThe tick that causes Lyme disease may have found a new way to cause\ndamage: legal liability.\n\nA federal judge's decision holding a property owner liable for not\ndoing enough to protect workers from Lyme disease is getting as much\nattention as the latest medical study on the disease, a flu-like\nillness that can cause severe physical and mental disabilities and in\nrare instances death. The decision last week has put property owners\non notice that they may have to do more than protect themselves from\nthe ticks-they also may have to protect themselves from litigation if\nsomeone becomes infected while on the property.\n\nThe decision by U.S. District Judge Robert J. Ward in New York came\nafter a week-long trial in a case involving four track workers for the\nLong Island Railroad. Judge Ward found that the workers contracted the\ndisease after they were bitten by ticks while on the job. He ordered\nthe New York state-owned commuter line to pay the workers more than\n$560,000 to compensate for pain and suffering, in addition to medical\nexpenses and lost wages.\n\nSummer camps, schools, companies with facilities in rural or\nsemirural areas, and homeowners who rent to vacationers are among the\ngroups that need to be worried about this ruling, says Stephen L.\nKass, an attorney at New York law firm Berle, Kass & Case, who wrote a\nlegal article three years ago warning property owners of the potential\nliability. Even a family that invites friends over for a backyard\nbarbecue might be potentially liable.\n\nLawsuits for insect bites, while rare, aren't unheard-of. A summer\nvacationer in Southampton, N.Y., last year sued the owner of the home\nshe rented, claiming that a tick on the property gave her Rocky\nMountain spotted fever. In 1988, also on Long Island, a jury ordered\nan outdoor restaurant to pay more than $3 million to a patron who was\nstung by a bee, causing an allergic reaction and permanent\nquadriplegia. The judge later threw out the award, citing no evidence\nthat a beehive was near the restaurant.\n\nBut lawyers say that the attention to Lyme disease throughout the\ncountry -- it's most prevalent in New England, the Middle Atlantic\nstates, Wisconsin, Minnesota and the Northwest -- may make this\nparticular insect bite a particularly litigious one.\n\nThe illness already has proved to be a source of controversy in the\ncourtroom over such issues as the type of medical care insurers will\ncover and medical malpractice claims against doctors for not\ndiagnosing the disease.\n\nLawyers say worker's-compensation claims related to Lyme disease\nhave become common in some states in recent years. Payments in\nworker's-compensation cases, however, are limited to medical costs and\nlost earnings.\n\nThe case before Judge Ward dealt with a potentially much more\nlucrative avenue for damages, because it involved the question of\nnegligence. Unlike the worker's compensation process, the law governing\ninjuries to rail workers allows for a finding of negligence and, as a\nresult, for additional payments for pain and suffering. Property\nowners and lawyers say that negligence claims can be made in many\nother situations where people are exposed to the ticks that carry the\ndisease.\n\nIra M. Maurer, a partner at New York law firm Elkind, Flynn &\nMaurer, who represented the rail workers, says the decision will help\nto establish \"the duty of all sorts of property owners to protect\nagainst Lyme disease.\"\n\nLawyers caution that despite Judge Ward's decision, winning a\nlawsuit for damages caused by Lyme disease may prove difficult. For\none thing, victims have to demonstrate that they have pinned down when\nand where they got the tick bite. Judge Ward found that the plaintiffs\nin the railroad case got Lyme disease while working on property owned\nby the railroad, even though none of the men remembered being bitten.\nThe workers, who weren't outdoorsmen likely to be exposed elsewhere to\nthe insects, said they saw ticks in the high grass that surrounded\nsome work sites.\n\nA spokeswoman for the railroad says that there was no proof that\nthe four men were bitten while on the job and that the railroad is\nconsidering an appeal. The railroad also disputes Judge Ward's finding\nthat it didn't do enough to protect employees. The spokeswoman says\nthe railroad provides track workers with insect repellent and special\npants to protect against bug bites.\n\nDebate in the scientific community over Lyme disease could open up\nsome legal defenses for property owners, such as questioning whether a\nvictim actually has the disease rather than some other illness.\nEarlier this week, the Journal of the American Medical Association\nreported that doctors overly diagnose patients as having Lyme disease.\nAnd damages awarded to a victim also might be influenced by medical\ndisputes over the degree of harm that Lyme disease causes.\n\nBecause of health and safety concerns, some groups and companies\nalready take special measures to protect against Lyme disease. Last\nyear, at its headquarters in Franklin Lakes, N.J., Becton, Dickinson &\nCo. began using Damminix, a pesticide made by EcoHealth Inc. of Boston\nthat is designed to kill ticks carrying the disease. The medical-\nsupply company's headquarters include a 120-acre park, and the company\nwas worried that employees who walk on its trails for recreation might\nget infected.\n\nRuth Lister, a spokeswoman for the American Camping Association in\nIndianapolis, says that many youth camps accredited by her\norganization also have begun to check children for ticks. And Carole\nKatz, a member of the board of the Fire Island Pines Property Owners\nAssociation, says her group spends $30,000 each year to treat their\n100-acre site off the coast of New York with the tick-killing\npesticide.\n\n=====*=====\n\nTITLE: Urinary dysfunction in Lyme disease.\nAUTHORS: Chancellor MB; McGinnis DE; Shenot PJ; Kiilholma P; Hirsch IH,\nDepartment of Urology, Jefferson Medical College, Thomas Jefferson\nUniversity, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.\nREFERENCE: J Urol 1993 Jan; 149 (1): 26-30\n\nLyme disease, which is caused by the spirochete Borrelia burgdorferi, is\nassociated with a variety of neurological sequelae.  We describe 7 patients\nwith neuro-borreliosis who also had lower urinary tract dysfunction.\nUrodynamic evaluation revealed detrusor hyperreflexia in 5 patients and\ndetrusor areflexia in 2.  Detrusor external sphincter dyssynergia was not\nnoted on electromyography in any patient.  We observed that the urinary tract\nmay be involved in 2 respects in the course of Lyme  disease: 1) voiding\ndysfunction may be part of neuro-borreliosis and 2) the spirochete may\ndirectly invade the urinary tract.  In 1 patient bladder infection by the\nLyme spirochete was documented on biopsy.  Neurological and urological\nsymptoms in all patients were slow to resolve and convalescence was\nprotracted.  Relapses of active Lyme disease and residual neurological\ndeficits were common.  Urologists practicing in areas endemic for Lyme\ndisease need to be aware of B. burgdorferi infection in the differential\ndiagnosis of neurogenic bladder dysfunction.  Conservative bladder\nmanagement including clean intermittent catheterization guided by urodynamic\nevaluation is recommended.\n\n\nIV. ***** QUESTIONS 'N' ANSWERS *****\n\nNote: If you have a response to this question, please forward it to the\neditor.\n\nSender: Terry Morse <morset@ccmail.orst.edu>\nSubject: Question on Lyme Vectors and Compost Piles\n\n  When I visited my sister on Long Island, NY, I was cautioned to avoid the\ncompost heap in her back yard, as she thinks this is where she became\ninfected.\n\n  A friend of mine here in Oregon who has a compost heap would like me to\nback that claim up with documentation.  Do lyme-carrying ticks hang out in\ncompost heaps?\nThank you.\n\n\nV. ***** OP-ED SECTION *****\n\nThis section is open to all subscribers who would like to express an opinion.\n\n\nVI. ***** JARGON INDEX *****\n\nBb - Borrelia burgdorferi - The scientific name for the LD bacterium.\nCDC - Centers for Disease Control - Federal agency in charge of tracking\n      diseases and programs to prevent them.\nCNS - Central Nervous System.\nELISA - Enzyme-linked Immunosorbent Assays - Common antibody test\nEM - Erythema Migrans - The name of the \"bull's eye\" rash that appears in\n     ~60% of the patients early in the infection.\nIFA - Indirect Fluorescent Antibody - Common antibody test.\nLD - Common abbreviation for Lyme Disease.\nNIH - National Institutes of Health - Federal agency that conducts medical\n      research and issues grants to research interests.\nPCR - Polymerase Chain Reaction - A new test that detects the DNA sequence\n      of the microbe in question.  Currently being tested for use in\n      detecting LD, TB, and AIDS.\nSpirochete - The LD bacterium.  It's given this name due to it's spiral\n      shape.\nWestern Blot - A more precise antibody test.\n\n\nVII. ***** HOW TO SUBSCRIBE, CONTRIBUTE AND GET BACK ISSUES *****\n\nSUBSCRIPTIONS:\nAnyone with an Internet address may subscribe.\nSend a memo to    listserv@Lehigh.EDU\nin the body, type:\nsubscribe LymeNet-L <Your Real Name>\n\nFAX subscriptions are also available.  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Gabriel <mcg2@Lehigh.EDU>\n            FAX: 215-974-6410\nContributing Editors: Carl Brenner <brenner@lamont.ldgo.Columbia.EDU>\n                      John Setel O'Donnell <jod@Equator.COM>\nAdvisors: Carol-Jane Stolow, Director\n          William S. Stolow, President\n          The Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey (908-390-5027)\nChief Proofreader: Ed Mackey <elm4@Lehigh.EDU>\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nWHEN COMMENTS ARE PRESENTED WITH AN ATTRIBUTION, THEY DO NOT NECESSARILY\nREPRESENT THE OPINIONS\/ANALYSES OF THE EDITOR.\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTHIS NEWSLETTER MAY BE REPRODUCED AND\/OR POSTED ON BULLETIN BOARDS FREELY\nAS LONG AS IT IS NOT MODIFIED OR ABRIDGED IN ANY WAY.\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nSEND ALL BUG REPORTS TO mcg2@Lehigh.EDU.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n   |>>|>       Excerpts from \"Insight\" magazine, March 15, 1993\n\n   |                       *Paranoia part deleted.*\n\n   |  Isn't Insight magazine published by the Mooneys?\n\n   I don't remember the article that you removed so I can't comment on it.\n   What I can comment on though is your response.\n\n   Do you really believe that what you wrote is sufficient to refute\n   the article?  Do have any facts in addition to your opinion?\n\nNo one has time to chase down every rumor that gets printed\nin the National Enquirer or whatever.  The point is to wait\nand see if the assertions of the (rather bizarre) original\npost will be corroborated in any way.  Perhaps they will.\nThe recent posts of the rather bizarre original poster speak\nfor themselves.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"[deleted]\n\n This is a pet peeve of mine. I wish companies would put power switches on the\n front of the equipment! If my Apple monitor had the switch on the front, I\n would happily power it off at night. Almost every piece of computer equipment\n I own\/use has the switch on the back (including external hard drives and\n modems--why?). I hope front-mounted switches become the norm, and soon.\n\n Rich","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I am looking for a  program to draw various kinds of diagrams on my Linux\nsystem.\n\n- It must be free.\n- It must run on standard (monochrome) X with a small screen size (800x600)\n  No motif\/openlook etc.\n- It must compile under Linux with gcc\/g++. Most generic unix software\n  works ok.\n- It must produce postscript files that I can include into LaTeX documents\n  with dvips. Or just tell me another free program that converts one\n  of the supported formats to ps.\n- It must produce drawings that are larger than the window size (scrollable).\n\nI know of several such programs, idraw, xfig. tgif. I have\nno experience with any of them. Features I would like in the programs are.\n\n- ability to draw circles, arcs, straight lines, boxes and arrows.\n- support for both dashed and solid line styles for all of these objects.\n- support for texts in any size.\n- ability to move\/copy\/resize\/rotate any part of the drawing.\n- ability to turn any part of the drawing into a library component\n  (e.g. a transistor symbol composed of three lines, an arrow and a circle)\n- any aid (numeric coordinates, screen grid) to align parts of the drawing.\n- less essential, but in fact very handy: preservation of connection.\n  If I move one part of the drawing, the lines that connect that part to the\n  rest of the drawing, stay connected.\n\nIdeally I want the tool so general and flexible that it is comfortable to\ndraw electronic schematics, flow charts, logic diagrams, data flow diagrams\nand block diagrams with it. \n\nI just want to know which of the programs offer which of the features on my\nwhishlist and are there any other programs? How demanding are the programs\nwith respect to disk space, memory and CPU usage? Are any of the programs\nknown to work on Linux with monochrome X?","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"The most current orbital elements from the NORAD two-line element sets are\ncarried on the Celestial BBS, (513) 427-0674, and are updated daily (when\npossible).  Documentation and tracking software are also available on this\nsystem.  As a service to the satellite user community, the most current\nelements for the current shuttle mission are provided below.  The Celestial\nBBS may be accessed 24 hours\/day at 300, 1200, 2400, 4800, or 9600 bps using\n8 data bits, 1 stop bit, no parity.\n\nElement sets (also updated daily), shuttle elements, and some documentation\nand software are also available via anonymous ftp from archive.afit.af.mil\n(129.92.1.66) in the directory pub\/space.\n\nSTS 55     \n1 22640U 93 27  A 93120.24999999  .00044939  00000-0  12819-3 0   129\n2 22640  28.4643 241.8868 0011265 284.7181 109.3644 15.91616537   580","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"[reply to timmbake@mcl.ucsb.edu (Bake Timmons]\n \n \nWhich newsgroup have you been reading?  The few anti-Christian posts are\nvirtually all in response to some Christian posting some \"YOU WILL ALL\nBURN IN HELL\" kind of drivel.\n \n \nBake, it is transparently obvious that you are a theist pretending to be\nan atheist.  You probably think you are very clever, but we see this all\nthe time.\n \n \nBut of course *you* have dismissed them because you are an atheist,\nright?\n \n \nIn other words, you *didn't* read the FAQ after all.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\nSounds like more of the same.  Gods were used to describe almost\neverything in the past.  As we come to understand the underpinnings of\nmore and more, the less we credit to a god.  Now, the not-so-well\nunderstood elements (at least by the author) includes quarks and tectonic\ndrift.  I guess that's better than describing the perceived patterns of\nstars in the sky as heroes being immortalized by the gods.\n\nKinda sounds like old-earth creation--It seems that life did, indeed, evolve\nfrom a common ancestor.  What caused that initial common ancestor?\n\nAre we going to hear another debate on causeless events? ;-)\n\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"The OTIS Project presents...\n\n       SYNERGY: Revolt \n\t...the first in a continuing series of collaborative\n\tart initiatives designed to exploit the binarity\n\tof the infosphere.  This series of diversely \n\tstructured art-manipulation projects will attempt\n\tto stretch across network boundries encouraging\n\tuse of electronic mail, fax, video, photography,\n\tscanned \"conventional\" art and even sound to \n\tcreate multi-artist \"still\" visuals in GIF and \n\tJPG formats.  Visualists from all technical levels\n\tare welcome.  \n\n\tREVOLT will be structured simply.  There will be \n\tthree stages of production.  The first stage will\n\tconsist of all participants creating one still \n\twork as a \"starter\" piece that two other partici-\n\tpants will, in turn, manipulate.  All first stage\n\t\"base\" images are due by Sunday, May 23rd, 1993, \n\tmidnight Central Daylight Time. \n\n\tStage two will begin on May 24th.  All images will \n\tbe sent to another (arbitrarily chosen) participant\n\tfor them to do manipulations on in anyway they see \n\tfit.  For purely digital artists, this may consist\n\tof filtering the image through their favorite paint\n\tprogram.  For \"analog\" artists, this may well be\n\tprinting a hardcopy of the image and adding their\n\town part with pen, pencil or white-out then scan-\n\tning in the image again to be transferred on to \n\tthe third-stage artist.  All second-stage works\n\tare due by midnight on Sunday, May 30th.\n\n\tStage three is the finishing stage and will begin\n\ton May 31st.  All artists will do what they think \n\tit takes to finish up the image they've been given\n\tusing whatever technique they see as worthy.  \n\tThese images will be due on June 6th, midnight.\n\n\tAll involved will participate in each stage of\n\tcreation.\n\n\t-----------------------------------------------------------\n\tTo join, send email\/mail with the following info:\n\n\tName:\n\temail address:\n\tmail address:\n\tscanner access?  (color\/grey\/none)\n\tprinter access?  (laser\/postscript\/inkjet\/color\/dot)\n\tcomputer access? (mac\/ibm-pc\/sun\/amiga\/atari\/NeXT\/other)\n\toutput format?\t (tiff\/targa\/gif\/jpeg\/pict\/postscript\/fax\n\t\t         \/photocopy\/pcx\/windows bitmap)\n\tgraphics level?  (8bit\/16bit\/24bit\/?)\n\tftp access?\n\ttime limitations?\n\n\tAddress the information to:\n\n\temail: mad-celt@cwis.unomaha.edu (Andrew Booth, project manager)\n\t       (include \"REVOLT\" in the subject line)\n\tmail:  The OTIS Project\n\t       SYNERGY: Revolt\n\t       PO BX 241113\n\t       Omaha, NE 68124-1113\t\n\n\t---------------------------------------------------------\t\n\tRemember, all STARTER images are due on Sunday, May 23rd. \n\tDeposit them at either of these FTP sites:\n\n\tsunsite.unc.edu  (\/pub\/multimedia\/pictures\/OTIS\/Incoming)\n\tor\n\t141.214.4.135  (projects\/otis\/incoming)\n\t\tOR\n\t...send uuencoded images to us via email...\n\t\tOR\n\t...send hardcopies to address above...\n\t\tOR\n\t...arrange FAX exchange.\n\n\tIf you don't get your STARTER image in, you won't be\n\table to participate until SYNERGY Phase II (in mid-June).\n\t---------------------------------------------------------\n\n\tWe will do our best to accomodate\/facilitate image exchange\n\tfor the \"technologically impaired\".  If you don't have \n\taccess to a scanner, but need one, we'll try to help.\n\tIf you need an image printed out and sent to you, let\n\tus know (send an SASE if you anticipate this).\n\n\tADDITIONAL INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THE FOLLOWING:\n\t- suggestions for use of \"uncommon\" mediums\n\t  (such as video stills, electronic imaging and sound)\n\t- FAX availability times\n\t- \"copyright\" considerations (appropriation)\n\t- image conversion\n\t- the OTIS Project in general\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Last year my nine year old son fell in love with baseball and now\nlikes to play and to follow the professionals.  I would like to buy\nhim a board game so he can catch a glimpse of and practise a little of\nthe managerial stragegy.  I am not looking for a computer game or any\ntype of game where manual dexterity determines the winner.  I am after\nsomething that he and his friends can spread out over a table on a\nrainy day and spend some thoughtful time over.\n\nI would appreciate the names of any recommended games.  I don't follow\nthis newsgroup, so e-mail responses would be ideal.\n\n                                                ....[MIchael]\n\n-- \nMGODDARD@EHD.HWC.CA : Michael Goddard : (613) 954-0169 : Fax (613) 952-9798\nB9, Environmental Health Centre, Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa, Canada,  K1A 0L2\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nthis is true.\n\n\nthis has merit but is not entirely true.\n\nthis last statement is not true.  According to the CBO the United States\nhas a force of about 88,000 US Army personel in Europe, I do not know\nif this includes a USMC division in Norway.  They have available\na little more than 500 USAF attack aircraft, including various models\nof the F-111, A-10, F-19A\/B,  and a few F-4s. {there are about 1,000\nmore of these available, SAFELY TUCKED AWAY AT HOME. At one time, the\nUS maintained 1500 MBTs {about half were M1A1} but some of these were\nrelocated to the Persian Gulf.  I know the US has at LEAST one \naircraft carrier battle group nearby and probably a marine assault\nbrigade.  Does anyone know if there are any B-52\/B-1Bs in England?\n\nThe point is, although there are no US ground troops in Bosnia,\nit is not true that that all the american forces are safely camped\noutside of St. Louis.    \n\nI also understand that the administration is planning to position\ntroops in Macedonia.  Any reaction out there to this?\n\nQuestion:  day before yesterday I heard that Serbia & Montenegro\nhad imposed additional trade sanctions against the Bosnian Serb Rebels.\nThis morning a NPR reported at a bridge on the Drina (sp?) verified\nthat only a bread truck was allowed to pass through to Bosnia.\nA Serbian {who happened to be muslim}, stated that just a few months\nago no vehicle even slowed for the boarder station. Now everyone\nis stopped and searched, many are turned back.  Of course all I\nheard was a translators version, I do not speak Serbo-Croatian.\n\nIf this is a effort on the part of Serbia & Montenegro {for whatever reason}\nto push the Boserbs into accepting the V-O, is this not a good thing?","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\n First of all I think when ESPN covers the game they do a wonderful job, but\n last night I felt the same way. I really hate watching Devils\/Pens game. \n Everyone knows that Devils are going to get their ass kicked, why even \n bother showing them. I was so bored and these ESPN people don't seem to have\n any brain. After the Sundays and last night games, they are still going to \n show Devils\/Pens on THU and SUN. WHat the hell are they thinking about? I \n think if they keep it up like this NHL will never get a major network contract.\n I'd rather see Caps\/Isls game which is more exciting. \n\n Now I just hope all baseball games are rained out on ESPN so atleast\n we can get diffrent hockey games. \n\n  \n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Yesterday I read an article from someone who was requesting references for\nintroductory texts on cryptography.  Although I marked the article to\nreturn, it appears to have expired on this site.\n\nAnyway, on one of the previous occasions when this subject arose I saved\na couple articles which made suggestions.  One of the articles contained\na quite impressive bibliography.  If the poster of the request (or anyone\nelse) would like to email me, I would be glad to send out copies of these\nrecommendations, including the bibliography.\n\nDavid R. Conrad\t\t\"No his mind is not for rent\/To any god or government\"","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Please take this system off my hands.  I no longer use it and it is\ntaking up valuable room.  They system consists of a Microcom PDOS Apple II+\nclone with 64k on board and PDOS installed.  It comes with a load of boards,\nincluding:  a disk drive board, 2 Z80 boards, a 16k board, an 80 column\nboard, a couple printer boards including the Grappler II+.  It has 2 1\/2 height\ndrives and a cooling fan attachement.  The keyboard is of the extended \nvariety with builting keywords and a keypad.  All of it for $170.\n\nBrett Maraldo\n- Plexus Productions\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Hi guys....\n\nWhat happened?\n\t1.  Potvin didn't let six goals by.\n\t2.  Wendel and Andreychuk woke up.\n\t3.  Home ice and LOTS of yelling in the Gardens gave the Leafs\n\t\tthe emotional edge.\n\t4.  Refs calls (especially last night) tended to favour Leafs.\n\n\tA couple of comments:\n\n\t1.  On Gilmour:  Just because the guy isn't one of the three\n\tstars doesn't mean he was not leading the team.  Someone posted\n\tthe playoff point total and he's in something like fifth or sixth\n\tplace....plus, he walked away with the Molson cup (given for\n\taccumulating points from the three star selection) during the\n\tregular season.\n\n\t2.  On the officiating:  I've heard gripes from both ends on this\n\tone.  Emotions are very high in this series;  the rivalry is\n\tone of the stronger ones I know of.  I do have to agree that the\n\tofficiating last night was pro-Leaf in general (except for whoever\n\tmissed that slash on Gilmour's hand).\n\n\t3.  In general:  I STILL think Detroit has one of the better\n\tchances vs. Pittsburgh (though I think the Leafs would do better\n\tagainst the Blues....but not as well if they made it out of the\n\tdivision). Problem is, I like both these teams, though I'm\n\tsupporting the Leafs on the underdog principle.  D\n\n\tBy the way...Gilmour tiring out is a lot like Bob Probert not\n\t\tplaying aggressive hockey....\n\tBy the way....I'm not any sort of expert, nor do I claim to be.\n\t\tI just like watching a good matchup.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nLet me improve this one for you, then. For nearly one thousand years, \nthe Turkish and Kurdish people lived on their homeland - the last \none hundred under the oppressive Soviet and Armenian occupation. The \npersecutions culminated in 1914: The Armenian Government planned and \ncarried out a Genocide against its Muslim subjects. 2.5 million Turks \nand Kurds were murdered and the remainder driven out of their homeland. \nAfter one thousand years, Turkish and Kurdish lands were empty of Turks\nand Kurds. \n\nThe survivors found a safe heaven in Turkiye.\n\nToday, x-Soviet Armenian government rejects the right of Turks and \nKurds to return to their Muslim lands occupied by x-Soviet Armenia.\n\nToday, x-Soviet Armenia covers up the genocide perpetrated by its \npredecessors and is therefore an accessory to this crime against \nhumanity.\n\nx-Soviet Armenia must pay for its crime of genocide against the Muslims \nby admitting to the crime and making reparations to the Turks and Kurds.\n\nTurks and Kurds demand the right to return to their lands,\nto determine their own future as a nation in their own homeland.\n\n...On this occasion, we once again reiterate the unquestioned \njustice of the restitution of Turkish and Kurdish rights and...\n\n- We demand that the x-Soviet Armenian Government admit its \nresponsibility for the Turkish and Kurdish Genocide, render \nreparations to the Muslim people, and return the land to its \nrightful owners. The recognition of the Genocide has become an \nissue which cannot be delayed further, and it is imperative that \nartificial obstacles created for political manipulations be removed.\n\n- We believe the time has come to demand from the the United States \nthat it formally recognizes the Turkish and Kurdish Genocide, adopts \nthe principles of our demands and refuses to accede to Armenian pressures \nto the contrary.\n\n- As taxpayers of the United States, we express our vehement \nprotest to the present U.S. Government policy of continued \ncoddling, protection and unqualified assistance towards x-Soviet\nArmenia.\n\n- Our territorial demands are strictly aimed at x-Soviet Armenia's.\n\n\nSource: \"From Sardarapat to Sevres and Lausanne\" by Avetis Aharonian. The \nArmenian Review, Vol. 16, No. 3-63, Autumn, Sep. 1963, pp. 47-57.\n\np. 52 (second paragraph).\n\n\"Your three chiefs, Dro, Hamazasp and Kulkhandanian are the ringleaders\n of the bands which have destroyed Tartar villages and have staged \n massacres in Zangezour, Surmali, Etchmiadzin, and Zangibasar. This is\n intolerable. Look - and here he pointed to a file of official documents\n on the table - look at this, here in December are the reports of the last\n few months concerning ruined Tartar villages which my representative\n Wardrop has sent me. The official Tartar communique speaks of the\n destruction of 300 villages.\"\n\np. 54 (fifth paragraph).\n\n\"Yes, of course. I repeat, until this massacre of the Tartars is stopped\n and the three chiefs are not removed from your military leadership I\n hardly think we can supply you arms and ammunition.\"\n\n\"...it is the armed bands led by Dro, Hamazasp and Kulkhandanian who\n during the past months have raided and destroyed many Tartar villages in\n the regions of Surmali, Etchmiadzin, Zangezour, and Zangibasar. There are\n official charges of massacres.\"\n\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":" \n \n        As far as I know, there is no FAQ for tpg.  Somebody was working\non one, but I think it \"died in committee.\"\n ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nI read it when it first came out, and the controversy broke. Put my name\non the waiting list at the library (that way if the book was really\noffensive, none of my money would find its way to the author or\npublisher), and read it, \"cover to cover\" (to use a phrase that seems\npopular here right now).\n\nAnd I *liked* it. The writing style was a little hard to get used to, but\nit was well worth the effort. Coming from a similar background (Rushdie\ngrew up in Bombay in a muslim family, and moved to England; I grew up in\nNew Delhi), it made a strong impression on me.  (And he used many of the\nstrange constructions of Indian English: the \"yaar\" at the end of a\nsentence, \"Butbutbut,\" the occasional hindi phrase, etc.)\n\nAt the time I still \"sorta-kinda\" thought of myself as a muslim, and I\ncouldn't see what the flap was all about. It seemed clear to me that this\nwas allegory.  It was clear that he described some local prostitutes who\ntook on the names and personae of Muhammed's wives, and had not (as my\ngrandfather thundered) implied that Muhammed's wives were prostitutes; in\nshort, every angry muslim that had read even part of the book seemed to\nhave missed the point completely.  (And I won't mention the fact that the\nmost militant of them had never even seen the book. Oops, I just did!)\n\nPerhaps in a deep sense, the book is insulting to Islam, because it\nexposes the silliness of revealed religion - why does an omnipotent deity\nneed an agent? She can come directly to me, can't she? How do we know that\nMuhammed didn't just go out into the desert and smoke something? And how\ndo we know that the scribes he dictated the Quran to didn't screw up, or\nput in their own little verses? And why can Muhammed marry more than four\nwomen, when no other muslim is allowed to? (Although I think the biggest\ninsult to Islam is that the majority of its followers would want to\nsuppress a book, sight unseen, on the say-so of some \"holy\" guy. Not to\nmention murder the author.)\n\n\nI had much the same response when I tried to talk about the book. A really\nsilly argument - after all, how many of these same people have read \"Mein\nKampf?\" It just made me wonder - what are they afraid of? Why don't they\njust read the book and decide for themselves?\n\nMaybe the reaction of the muslim community to the book, and the absence of\nprotest from the \"liberal\" muslims to Khomeini's fatwa outrage, was the\nfinal push I needed into atheism!\n\n-s","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
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{"text":"\n\tHow about some citations or is this just impressionistic speculation\n\ton your part?\n\n For 30 years I've been laboring under the delusion that chain drives\n\twere more efficient that shaft drives.  Chain drives are also stronger.\n\t(Ever seen a successful shaftie dragster?  No.)\n\n\tNo flames, please!  I've got both kinds of drives.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nNot very -- you just type \"xloadimage\" or \"getx11\" instead of \"xv\".\n-- ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\tAs Herny pointed out, you have to develop the thruster.\nAlso, while much lighter, you still have to lift the mass of\nthe thruster to orbit, and then the thruster lifts its own \nweight into a higher orbit.  And you take up room in the payload\nbay.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nAnd you shouldn't, as the matches kill more kids.  So why are you bleating\nabout guns?\n\n\nIt may be tired, but it is true.\n\n\nNo, that's not right either.  People who have both easy access and the\ndesire to kill, kill people.  Considering that people who have the\ndesire to kill turn that into easy access ....  (Haven't you folks\nlearned anything from either Prohibition or the war on drugs?)\n\nIf you don't affect the desire, you're wasting your time, not to\nmention the other costs incurred.\n\n\nGood for them.  I note that the TM folks make the same argument.  If\nyou'll pay their expesnses ($21 million for a reasonable size city),\nthey promise to meditate away all crime, disease, etc.  At least\nthey're not promising to jail me if I don't go along with their little\nplan - they're going to just sit in a room and fly, leaving me alone.\n\n\nAh, but we have evaluated gun control using before-after and it\ndoesn't work to reduce crime.  What is the point?  We can't claim that\nit is symbolic, as people do get jailed.\n\n\nNo, they're essentially saying \"we hope this will keep you from\nnoticing that we're not doing anything useful\".  Pissing away\nresources isn't \"caring\".\n\n\nNope, you'll merely be ignored, as Wright, Rossi, and Daly were after\nfinishing \"Under the Gun\".  They were supposed to prove that gun\ncontrol worked, so ....\n\n\nSo, who gassed them?  Given their previous experience with thugs who\nthrew grenades before yelling \"we're from the govt and we're here to\nhelp you\", would a rational person think that the feds had their best\ninterests at heart?  Would you \"know\" that the gas was \"non-lethal\"?\n\n-andy","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"FREE-ENERGY TECHNOLOGY\n                       by Robert E. McElwaine, Physicist\n          \n               Ninety to a hundred years ago, everybody \"knew\" that a \n          heavier-than-air machine could not possibly fly.  It would \n          violate the \"laws\" of physics.  All of the \"experts\" and \n          \"authorities\" said so. \n          \n               For example, Simon Newcomb declared in 1901:  \"The \n          demonstration that no possible combination of known \n          substances, known forms of machinery and known forms of \n          force, can be united in a practical machine by which man \n          shall fly long distances through the air, seems to the writer \n          as complete as it is possible for the demonstration of any \n          physical fact to be.\" \n          \n               Fortunately, a few SMART people such as the Wright \n          Brothers did NOT accept such pronouncements as the final \n          word.  Now we take airplanes for granted, (except when they \n          crash). \n          \n               Today, orthodox physicists and other \"scientists\" are \n          saying similar things against several kinds of 'Free Energy' \n          Technologies, using negative terms such as \"pseudo-science\" \n          and \"perpetual motion\", and citing so-called \"laws\" which \n          assert that \"energy cannot be created or destroyed\" (\"1st law \n          of thermodynamics\") and \"there is always a decrease in useful \n          energy\" (\"2nd law of thermodynamics\").  The physicists do not \n          know how to do certain things, so they ARROGANTLY declare \n          that those things cannot be done.  Such PRINCIPLES OF \n          IMPOTENCE are COMMON in orthodox modern \"science\" and help to \n          cover up INCONSISTENCIES and CONTRADICTIONS in orthodox \n          modern theories. \n          \n               Free Energy Inventions are devices which can tap a \n          seemingly UNLIMITED supply of energy from the universe, with-\n          OUT burning any kind of fuel, making them the PERFECT \n          SOLUTION to the world-wide energy crisis and its associated \n          pollution, degradation, and depletion of the environment. \n          \n               Most Free Energy Devices probably do not create energy, \n          but rather tap into EXISTING natural energy sources by \n          various forms of induction.  UNLIKE solar or wind devices, \n          they need little or no energy storage capacity, because they \n          can tap as much energy as needed WHEN needed.  Solar energy \n          has the DIS-advantage that the sun is often blocked by \n          clouds, trees, buildings, or the earth itself, or is reduced \n          by haze or smog or by thick atmosphere at low altitudes and \n          high latitudes.  Likewise, wind speed is WIDELY VARIABLE and \n          often non-existent.  Neither solar nor wind power are \n          suitable to directly power cars and airplanes.  Properly \n          designed Free Energy Devices do NOT have such limitations. \n          \n               For example, at least three U.S. patents (#3,811,058, \n          #3,879,622, and #4,151,431) have so far been awarded for \n          motors that run EXCLUSIVELY on permanent MAGNETS, seemingly \n          tapping into energy circulating through the earth's magnetic \n          field.  The first two require a feedback network in order to \n          be self-running.  The third one, as described in detail in \n          \"Science & Mechanics\" magazine, Spring 1980, (\"Amazing \n          Magnet-Powered Motor\", by Jorma Hyypia, pages 45-48, 114-117, \n          and front cover), requires critical sizes, shapes, \n          orientations, and spacings of magnets, but NO feedback.  Such \n          a motor could drive an electric generator or reversible \n          heatpump in one's home, YEAR ROUND, FOR FREE.  [Complete \n          descriptive copies of U.S. patents are $3.00 each from the \n          U.S. Patent Office, 2021 Jefferson Davis Hwy., Arlington, VA  \n          22202; correct 7-digit patent number required.  Or try \n          getting copies of BOTH the article AND the Patents via your \n          local public or university library's inter-library loan \n          dept..] \n          \n               A second type of free-energy device, such as the 'Gray \n          Motor' (U.S. Patent #3,890,548), the 'Tesla Coil', and the \n          motor of inventor Joseph Newman [see SCIENCE, 2-10-84, pages \n          571-2.], taps ELECTRO-MAGNETIC energy by INDUCTION from \n          'EARTH RESONANCE' (about 12 cycles per second plus \n          harmonics).  They typically have a 'SPARK GAP' in the circuit \n          which serves to SYNCHRONIZE the energy in the coils with the \n          energy being tapped.  It is important that the total \n          'inductance' and 'capacitance' of the Device combine to \n          'RESONATE' at the same frequency as 'EARTH RESONANCE' in \n          order to maximize the power output.  This output can also be \n          increased by centering the SPARK GAP at the 'NEUTRAL CENTER' \n          of a strong U-shaped permanent magnet.  In the case of a \n          Tesla Coil, slipping a 'TOROID CHOKE COIL' around the \n          secondary coil will enhance output power.  [\"Earth Energy: \n          Fuelless Propulsion & Power Systems\", by John Bigelow, 1976, \n          Health Research, P.O. Box 70, Mokelumne Hill, CA  95245.] \n          \n               During the 1930's, an Austrian civil engineer named \n          Viktor Schauberger invented and partially developed an \n          'IMPLOSION TURBINE' (German name, 'ZOKWENDLE'), after \n          analyzing erosion, and lack of erosion, in differently shaped \n          waterways, and developing sophisticated mathematical \n          equations to explain it.  As described in the book \"A \n          Breakthrough to New Free-Energy Sources\", by Dan A. Davidson, \n          1977, water is pumped by an IMPELLER pump through a \n          LOGARITHMIC-SPIRAL-shaped coil of tubing until it reaches a \n          CRITICAL VELOCITY.  The water then IMPLODES, no longer \n          touching the inside walls of the tubing, and drives the pump, \n          which then converts the pump's motor into an ELECTRIC \n          GENERATOR.  The device seems to be tapping energy from that \n          of the earth's rotation, via the 'Coriolis effect', LIKE A \n          TORNADO.  [ It can also NEUTRALIZE GRAVITY! ] \n          \n               A fourth type of Free Energy Device is the 'McClintock \n          Air Motor' (U.S. Patent #2,982,261), which is a cross between \n          a diesel engine (it has three cylinders with a compression \n          ratio of 27 to 1) and a rotary engine (with solar and \n          planetary gears).  It burns NO FUEL, but becomes self-running \n          by driving its own air compressor.  This engine also \n          generates a lot of heat, which could be used to heat \n          buildings; and its very HIGH TORQUE makes it ideal for large \n          trucks, preventing their slowing down when climbing hills.  \n          [David McClintock is also the REAL original Inventor of the \n          automatic transmission, differential, and 4-wheel drive.] \n          \n               Crystals may someday be used to supply energy, as shown \n          in the Star Trek shows, perhaps by inserting each one between \n          metal capacitor plates and bombarding it with a beam of \n          particles from a small radioactive source like that used in a \n          common household smoke detector. \n          \n               One other energy source should be mentioned here, \n          despite the fact that it does not fit the definition of Free \n          Energy.  A Bulgarian-born American Physicist named Joseph \n          Maglich has invented and partially developed an atomic FUSION \n          reactor which he calls 'Migma', which uses NON-radioactive \n          deuterium as a fuel [available in nearly UNLIMITED quantities \n          from sea water], does NOT produce radioactive waste, can be \n          converted DIRECTLY into electricity (with-OUT energy-wasting \n          steam turbines), and can be constructed small enough to power \n          a house or large enough to power a city.  And UNLIKE the \n          \"Tokamaks\" and laser fusion MONSTROSITIES that we read about, \n          Migma WORKS, already producing at least three watts of power \n          for every watt put in.  [\"New Times\" (U.S. version), 6-26-78, \n          pages 32-40.] \n          \n               And then there are the 'cold fusion' experiments that \n          have been in the news lately, originally conducted by \n          University of Utah researchers B. Stanley Pons and Martin \n          Fleischmann.  Some U.S. Navy researchers at the China Lake \n          Naval Weapons Center in California, under the direction of \n          chemist Melvin Miles, finally took the trouble to collect the \n          bubbles coming from such an apparatus, had them analyzed with \n          mass-spectrometry techniques, and found HELIUM 4, which \n          PROVES that atomic FUSION did indeed take place, and enough \n          of it to explain the excess heat generated. \n          \n               There are GOOD INDICATIONS that the two so-called \"laws\" \n          of thermodynamics are NOT so \"absolute\".  For example, the \n          late Physicist Dewey B. Larson developed a comprehensive \n          GENERAL UNIFIED Theory of the physical universe, which he \n          calls the 'Reciprocal System', (which he describes in detail \n          in several books such as \"Nothing But Motion\" (1979) and \"The \n          Universe of Motion\" (1984)), in which the physical universe \n          has TWO DISTINCT HALVES, the material half and an anti-matter \n          half, with a CONTINUOUS CYCLE of matter and energy passing \n          between them, with-OUT the \"heat death\" predicted by \n          thermodynamic \"laws\".  His Theory explains the universe MUCH \n          BETTER than modern orthodox theories, including phenomena \n          that orthodox physicists and astronomers are still scratching \n          their heads about, and is SELF-CONSISTENT in every way.  Some \n          Free Energy Devices might be tapping into that energy flow, \n          seemingly converting \"low-quality energy\" into \"high-quality \n          energy\". \n          \n               Also, certain religious organizations such as 'Sant Mat' \n          and 'Eckankar' teach their Members that the physical universe \n          is only the LOWEST of at least a DOZEN major levels of \n          existence, like parallel universes, or analogous to TV \n          channels, as described in books like \"The Path of the \n          Masters\", by Dr. Julian Johnson, 1939, and \"Eckankar: The Key \n          to Secret Worlds\", by Sri Paul Twitchell, 1969.  For example, \n          the next level up from the physical universe is commonly \n          called the 'Astral Plane'.  Long-time Members of these groups \n          have learned to 'Soul Travel' into these higher worlds and \n          report on conditions there.  It seems plausible that energy \n          could flow down from these higher levels into the physical \n          universe, or be created at the boundary between them, given \n          the right configuration of matter to channel it.  This is \n          supported by many successful laboratory-controlled \n          experiments in PSYCHO-KINESIS throughout the world, such as \n          those described in the book \"Psychic Discoveries Behind the \n          Iron Curtain\". \n          \n               In terms of economics, the market has FAILED.  Inventors \n          do not have enough money and other resources to fully develop \n          and mass-produce Free Energy Equipment, and the conventional \n          energy producer$ have no desire to do so because of their \n          VE$TED INTERE$T$.  The government is needed to intervene.  If \n          the government does not intervene, then the total supply of \n          energy resources from the earth will continue to decline and \n          will soon run out, prices for energy will increase, and \n          pollution and its harmful effects (including the 'GREENHOUSE \n          EFFECT', acid rain, smog, radioactive contamination, oil \n          spills, rape of the land by strip mining, etc.) will continue \n          to increase. \n          \n               The government should SUBSIDIZE research and development \n          of Free Energy by Inventors and universities, subsidize \n          private production (until the producers can make it on their \n          own), and subsidize consumption by low-income consumers of \n          Free Energy Hardware. \n          \n               The long-range effects of such government intervention \n          would be wide-spread and profound.  The quantity of energy \n          demanded from conventional energy producer$ (coal mining \n          companie$, oil companie$ and countries, electric utilitie$, \n          etc.) would drop to near zero, forcing their employees to \n          seek work elsewhere.  Energy resources (coal, uranium, oil, \n          and gas) would be left in the ground.  Prices for \n          conventional energy supplies would also drop to near zero, \n          while the price of Free Energy Equipment would start out high \n          but drop as supply increases (as happened with VCR's, \n          personal computers, etc.).  Costs of producing products that \n          require large quantities of energy to produce would decrease, \n          along with their prices to consumers.  Consumers would be \n          able to realize the \"opportunity costs\" of paying electric \n          utility bills or buying home heating fuel.  Tourism would \n          benefit and increase because travelers would not have to \n          spend their money for gasoline for their cars.  Government \n          tax revenue from gasoline and other fuels would have to be \n          obtained in some other way.  AND ENERGY COULD NO LONGER BE \n          USED AS A MOTIVE OR EXCUSE FOR MAKING WAR. \n          \n               Many conventional energy producer$ would go out of \n          business, but society as a whole, and the earth's environment \n          and ecosystems, would benefit greatly.  It is the People, \n          that government should serve, rather than the big \n          corporation$ and bank$. \n          \n\n               For more information, answers to your questions, etc., \n          please consult my CITED SOURCES (patents, articles, books). \n\n          \n               UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this \n          IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED. \n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n[well, actually, he didn't, but we'll pretend the real author of this\nquery has his name tacked in here....:-)]\n\n\n\nwhile it's being mentioned, i personally prefer the moonroof\/sunroof\/t-top\/\ntarga thing as well.  I simply don't like cloth tops, nor the extra insurance,\nnor the S**** color matching alot of companies do.  If i chose a convertible,\nit'd be:\n\na) Mazda RX7 II.  I just like the way they look.  It'd have to be in black,\nwith color matched black top(they look good!)\n\nb) VW cabriolet.  They do a suberb job of matching colors too.  Also, last year\nfor them!  {***COLLECTOR'S ITEM****}\n\nc) mustang GT droptop...they look ok too.\n\ni know this doesn't help, but i thought i'd do it anyway...:-)\n\ngood luck to your wife.(and you :-)","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"hi, is there anybody has some example programs about using\n the internationalization features in X11R5 ? Such as a small\n X program just to show Chinese texts in wondows, menu bar or\n icons... Thanks in advance.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Probably won't help.  I'd be willing to bet that _every_ manufacturer\nused those little self-contained modules.  I think Sharp made them.\nRadio Shack used to sell them for a few bucks (maybe they still do.)\n\nThe module had 3 leads:  power, ground and demodulated output.  It\ncontained the photo-detector, amplifier, integrator and demodulator\nall in a tiny metal can.\n\nIf you want to buy one, try Radio Shack, or else a TV repair shop can\nprobably order one.  BTW - the carrier frequency is 40 KHz, and each\ndifferent TV\/VCR\/cable box\/stereo manufacturer uses a unique pulse\nscheme to perform each different function on their equipment.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Hello!\n\nI need a technique for separation of polymorphonuclear neutrophils (PMN)\nfrom the peripheral blood of mice. Because of the low PMN:Lymphocyte ratio\n(approx. 20:80) it\u00abs not just as easy as the corresponding technique used\nwith human blood.\n\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tYours,\n               \n                            \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t Per-Arne Melander\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"If you think that kind of uncalled for blanket statement will\ncause censorship at Mr. Jefferson's university you are wrong.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"A few weeks ago I posted about the Phillies team personalities.  Did anyone see the ESPN feature on the Phils on Monday Night.  John Kruk had a great line.  He was talking about people on the team always playing and not sitting out because of a minor injury.  He said if they do they know we'll kick their ass.  The \ntime I saw in was in the afternoon and it was not bleeped.  When I saw it at\nthey bleeped \"ass.\"  Mitch Williams talked about the team being a bunch of \nthrowaways from other teams, and that is why they are so close.  Kruk said that\nthey all get along this year.  Last year, he said, they hated the pitchers.  I \nassume he was joking, but he always keeps a straight face when he talks.  Oh,\nWhat a team!!!!!\n\nRob Koffler\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nHmmm... how about a piece of copper wire?  0 to 5V input range, standard\nTTL output, instantaneous conversion time!\n\n[ (-:  for the humor impaired ]\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Due to some problems with my IDE drive, I LL formatted the Maxitor7213AT.\nNow it started to give me some errors in some applications. I was told\nMaxitor has a utility called IDE_INT in their BBS, anyone tried it? Can\nsome one tell me what that BBS number is? Or better, can I find the file\nin some ftp site? Or perhaps someone can email it to me? Thanks.\n\nFeng","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"... Wayne McGuire?  Did someone prove he's anon15031@anon.penet.fi,\nand he ran off to restock on PCP?","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Hey all,\n\n\nI'm looking at buying a new car, but I'm confused about the insurance\ncoverage.  This also applies to my existing car insurance policy.  Does\nanyone understand what the \"Limited Tort Option\" means.  Will it lower\nmy rates if I opt to have it, or will it be more expensive if I opt\nto have it?  What does it do for me (in layman's terms please)?  Is\nit a good deal or should I ignore it?  I'm not the type to sue anyone\nat a drop of the hat nor am I the type to report every little ding to\nthe insurance company as a vandalism claim.  Please help.\n\n\n\nThanks in advance.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Hello!\n\nI have a SE\/30 and a Generation Systems 8bit PDS card for a 17\"\nscreen.\nIt worked great until I upgraded from 5 to 20 mb ram.\nNow with Sys7.1 and MODE32 or 32enabler it does not boot..\n\na tech support person said the card does not support these 32bit\nfixes.\n\nBUT: when pressing the shift key while booting (when the ext. monitor\ngoes black after having been grey) the system  SOMETIMES boots properly!!\nand then works ok with the 20mb and full graphics.\n\nWHAT's HAPPENING???\n\nThanks a lot for any advice!!!\nplease answer by mail.\n\nOssip Kaehr\nossip@cs.tu-berlin.de\nvoice: +49.30.6226317\n-- \n __   --------------------------------------------------------------   __\n\/_\/\\  Ossip Kaehr\tHermannstrasse 32  D-1000 Berlin 44  Germany  \/\\_\\\n\\_\\\/  Tel. +49.30.6223910 or 6218814     EMail ossip@cs.tu-berlin.de  \\\/_\/","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I am getting desperate. I have a report that must be finished by midnight,\nand W4W doesn't seem to have what appears to be a MUST! I use the autonum\nfield for numbering chapters, but my document is distributed amongst\nseveral files. I just can't find a way to make Word start the numbering\nat something else than 0 or 1. Of course, everything is fine in the first\nfile, but it's pretty stupid when ALL chapters are numbered as 1 !!!!!!!!\n\nPlease, if you have ANY solution to this (except from putting it all in\none 10M document ...) e-mail me immediately !\nAs I am working on th report I hardly have any time to read News, so\nplease e-mail me. All answers will be heartly welcome ...\n\nIn advance, thanx a lot !!!!!!\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\tAs I don't know this book, I will use your heresay.\n\n\n\tIt depends on how he defines God. The way I understand the meaning\nof that term preclues it being used in a useful way in science. Ideas drawn\nfrom an understanding that God is supernatural precludes us from forming\nscientific assertions that can be falsified, that is, where we can decide\nthat they are true or false within the terms of we use and useful observations\ndrawn from them.\n\n\tSome religionists have an interest in bluring the definitions within\nscience to make them more reconcilable, and especially subserviant in a basic\nway, to religious dogma. This pursuit always fails.\n\n\n\tReconciliation of science with religion involves circumventing the\ntendancy to claim that either pursuit can gain absolute or certian knowledge,\nor that the domain of truth in each is fundementally limited in some way. It\ngererally confurs the element of uncertainty and limitations to human knowledge\nwhile allowing for the different concerns of these separate pursuits. Science\nand religion ask different questions which have imperfect and provisional\nanswers, at best. Science is distinctly limited in where it can ask meaningful\nquestions. More questions can be posed than it can answer. At the basis of\nsacred language is the place where words fail us and mere assertions disolve\nin contradiction.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\tThe Jets gave the Canucks another run for their money in an almost\nidentical game to the first of the series but once again came up short as\nVancouver outscored Winnipeg 3-2.\n\tThe pattern of the first game was repeated tonight, with the Canucks\nscoring quickly and then going to sleep in the second period, only to stave\noff a Jet comeback with opportune goals from their greater talent. The Jets\nlooked more dangerous in this one but it didn't make a difference in the \nnumbers that counted: goals.\n\tVancouver's big line produced again, with centre Cliff Ronning and\nleft winger Geoff Courtnall scoring in the first and in the second to \nboost the Canucks to a 2-0 lead on giveaways by the suspect Jet defence of\nBautin and Ulanov. Mental lapses by the defence and goal-scoring talent\nin opportune areas made the difference in all three Canuck goals.\n\tHowever, as in the first game, the Jets worked hard to take the\ngame to the Canucks in the second period. The Jets dominated the second,\nchecking hard and penetrating the Vancouver zone without being challenged\nby a Canuck team that wanted to pack it in early. \n\tThe hard work paid off late in the second, when Tie Domi caught\nVancouver goalie Kirk McLean by surprise with a sharp angle shot to make\nthe score 2-1. \n\tDomi's goal gave the Jets new life as they began to take the rush\nto the Canuck's collapsing defence. The Canucks were unwilling to do \nanything but let McLean take shots and clear the rebounds. The Jets were\nallowed to set up and make plays.\n\tBoth goalies made standup saves as the play picked up considerably.\nMcLean made three great saves in the second off a dancing Teammu Selanne\nwhile Essensa was rocked by a Pavel Bure drive. Selanne looked dangerous\non the rush as the Jets pressed a series of attacks into the Canuck\nzone. The Canucks, on the other hand, looked like they were offering four\nchecking lines in an effort to preserve their slim lead.\n\tA series of minor penalties at the end of the second period\nresulted in a one man advantage for the Jets in the early third. The\nJet's Tempo Numminen drove a puck from the point through McLean's\nlegs and into the net to tie the game at 2-2.\n\tThe Canuck's discordant play picked up where it left off.\nThis was characterized by long lead passes that either never connected\nor were picked off by the Jets and individual rushes into a tight\nWinnipeg defence that were never supported.\n\tHowever, as in the first and second Canuck goals, a Jet defensive\nlapse (re: bonehead play) stalled the Winnipeg comeback. With the faceoff\nin the Winnipeg zone, Pavel Bure was left to stand in the crease with\nno Jet defender anywhere near him. Bure, who had been invisible in the\ngame up to that point, took a rebound and managed to roof it with a \nbackhand even though he was off balance. \n\tBy then it was too late for the Jets to come back. Essensa made it\nto the bench with one minute to go but the extra attacker did nothing\nfor their attack. Canucks 3, Winnipeg 2.\n\tNext game is Friday at Winnipeg with the Jets in the hole by two games.\n- 30 -\n\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nI had the same inconvenience when I bought my EX-500; only I could at least\ngo 50 mph during the initial break-in.\n\nDespite the high quality of motor oils and motorcycle engines these days,\nI would follow the instructions, and just keep to city street riding for\nthe first 500 miles. Heck, those miles go by fast, and it's worth it to\nknow you haven't possibly screwed up your engine.\n\nAt the same time, this has all the makings of a 6-week-long thread debating\nthe whole break-in topic.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nOr perhaps even weird?\n\n\nHmmm, you might want to read this group more carefully; there's been a good \namount of discussion of the proposed Pluto Fast Flyby (PFF) mission that is \nspecifically designed to be small and cheap.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Dear netters:\n\nI have been scanning this news group for a while but has not found a FAQ.\nCould someone enlight me where to find the FAQ if there is a one. Also,\ncould someone recommend a few good books about encription and decription,\nabout patent information, goverment regulation on this science\/technology.\nI will appreciate any of your help very much.\n\nSincerely","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"-=> Quoting The Logistician to All <=-\n\n \n\n TL> I am in need of all of the players wearing #77 in the NHL.  I know now\n TL> only of one, Ray Borque for the Bruins.  Any help would be greatly\n TL> appreciated. \n TL> Thanx.\n\n\n\n      Hi there Logistician, is not Paul Coffey wearing\n      # 77 for the Detroit Red Wings?\n      That is the only other one (besides Borque) that I can think of\n      hope it helps.\n\n\n      Steve\n\n\n\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nThat's not all it says.  The coverage of modifiers is in Chapter 8\nof Volume Four (or chap 7 in older Athena editions), where there is about \n10 pages on how to specify translations to capture\nvarious combinations of keys or buttons.\n\nThe Xlib route uses XLookupString and there is a lot of coverage\nof how that works in Volume One,  chapter 9.  You should read this\nto understand how all the mappings work before trying to do anything\ncomplicated.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nThis isn't at all too high of a price.  Keep in mind that you get *8* meg of \nram, a *local bus* IDE *and* SVGA card,  a *250* mb hd, and a *15\"* \nmonitor.  The local bus IDE and SVGA really kick butt in Windows.  I have \nused a couple of machines with VLB in the past, and all I can do is praise \nGateway.\n\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\nWord is that the ones he let go were not his.\n---\n ----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n ---------Visit the SOUNDING BOARD BBS +1 214 596 2915, a Wildcat! BBS-------\n\n    \"Foot\" the Bill:  let's get a new President.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"My original post was:\n\n\nThis article will just scratch the surface of a few security\nconsiderations, comments are requested. (email: fw@world.std.com)\nMy thanks to the people who responded, both on usenet and from\nOracle Corp.\n\nThe most common response was to suggest use of oracle audit \nfeatures or OPS$ passwords to control access (opinion on OPS$\nincluded suggestions to use and not use). I was also advised to \nuse table views to refine the granularity of access control.\n\nOne important security consideration in networked installations\nis that OPS$ accounts presume that the client host provides user\nauthentication. Os\/2 server OPS$ users are only as secure as the \n_least_ secure machine on the network. Hence you should probably \nnot define any OPS$ accounts on systems with PC's, or limit access \nof OPS$ accounts to data with no security concerns. Unix oracle \nservers provide for disabling OPS$ access over the network (orasrv\noption), while relying on host security for local processes. \n\nInternally Oracle provides powerful and well documented (sic) \naudit mechanisms which the DBA will use to monitor system and\ndata access. These tools can be used to track the primary security\nrisks from within the Oracle environment.\n\nOracle password security is based on a proprietary usage of DES\nencryption. Oracle Corp. states that the algorithm is not prone\nto cleartext attack. This is a difficult claim to substantiate \nsince the algorithm is unknown. The concern here is that if users \nchoose easily guessed passwords. _If_ a cracker can gain access \nto your oracle database files through the host operating system, \ns\/he could extract the 'cyphertext' password data and apply \ncryptanalysis techniques to learn the users passwords.\n\nAs security risks go, the above scenario is pretty low severity.\nCertainly once an intruder has access to the raw database files,\ns\/he can access to the data in them. If a cracker _could_ break \nthe passwords, however, s\/he could do substantial damage without\nalerting the auditing mechanism's, and leaving and audit trail\nwhich would point to valid users. At present Oracle (like Unix)\nprovides no native means of ensuring that passwords are not \nguessable. \n\nAs with all computer security, the most important defense is to \neducate users in the safe choice of passwords. These techniques\nare well discussed in internet rfc#1281 and the Crack manual, \n(both available from ftp archive servers) and, UNIX(R) System \nSecurity (Curry, David A. - Addison-Welsey 1992) \n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
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{"text":"\n\nHow can you tell for sure? Three days haven't passed yet. \n\n--\nSteve Bittrolff","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nMy opinion(for what it's worth) is that 40 x-rays is *way* too many.  \nGuidleines have been set on the number of dental x-rays and chest x-rays \nthat one should have over a given period of time because of all the \nenvironmental factors that can cause cancer in humans, ionizing radiation \nis one of the most potent(splits DNA and causes hydroxyl free radical \nformation in tissue cells).  Ultasound(like that used in seeing the fetus \nin the uterus) has been shown to be extremely good at picking up tumors \nin the prostate and gallstones in the gallbladder.  But kidney tissue may \nbe too dense for ultrasound to work for kidney stones(any radiologists care \nto comment?).\n\nMost stones will pass(but it's a very painful process).  Unlike gallstones, \nI don't think that there are many drugs that can help \"dissolve\" the \nkidney stone(which is probably calcium-oxalate).  Vitamin C and magnesium \nhave worked in rabbits to remove calcium from calcified plaques in the \naterial wall.  I have no idea if a diet change or supplementation could \nspeed up the process of kidney stone passage(but I'm pretty confident that \na diet change and\/or supplementation can prevent a reoccurance).  If surgery \nis being contemplated, the stone must be in the kidney tubule.  A second \nopinion is a good idea because there are better(less damaging) ways to break \nup the stone if it's logged within the kidney(sonic blasts).  HMO's are \nnotorious for conservative care and long waits for expensvie treatments.  \nMy condolences to your friend. ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Counterpoint  SA-12\n\n85watts per channel\nvery very warm tube sound, great for warming up CDs\nExcellent shape","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nThe GS300 and SC300 have an inline 6.\n\n\nInline 4 is correct.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Hi peeps,\n\nHere's another of those \"any ideas\" type queries.\n\nI've been given an oldish Phillips TeleVideo terminal type thingy, without\na keyboard.  But no problem so far.\n\nWhen I dismantled it, I discovered that it is really just a standard\nRGB monitor with built in modem\/ROM software etc.\n\nPhillips kindly labelled the circuit board with the RGB inputs, so I\nconnected it up as a monitor and he presto it worked - sort of.\n\nThe problem is that I have no idea where to connect the Sync lines.\nThe display rolls continuously, but does change modes (OK only to\nCGA - but useful for my laptop).\n\nAny of you wonderful people any knowledge of Phillips monitors?\n\nI've tried Phillips in the UK and a very helpful guy told me that\nhe has had several enquiries of this sort, but Phillips Computer\nis now under the auspices of DEC (at least in the UK).  DEC said\nsorry Phillips don't make it any more. What is it anyway?\nA UK support dealer said \"Circuit diagrams? Sync?\"\n\nSo any ideas.\n\nJohn.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\nA similar reason is why people at work, used to seeing SCO unix running\non a 486, are suprised when they see my Sun-3 at home running faster w\/a 16MHz\n68020\/68881.  The Sun was designed from the ground up for UNIX, the PC\nwasn't.\n\nThis is why you need a gargantuan processor to run Windows.  The basic\ndesign of the box is all wrong. (Would've been better if MS had put most\nof Windows on a plug-in ROM card from day one. (priced at $24.95 or\nso...) People woulda loved it.\n\nApple had the right idea, just stumbled a bit in the execution.\n\n-Pete\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I think you can get that at most head shops.  I'm not kidding... although\nit seems more appropriate for them to be selling Simple Green.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Hi:\n\nI am looking for tires.  I would like to hear your experience on the \nBF Goodrich Radial T\/A tires and\/or the Touring T\/A especially for\nsize P185\/70R13.\n\nFor Radial T\/A: How do they do in SNOW, and WET weather?  Are they quiet tires?\n\nFor Touring T\/A: How many miles can they last?  I believe they are in\n                 every way equal\/better than Radial T\/A.  Am I right?","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"# |# # Can someone tell me why when Mr. Cramer spouts on about homosexuals,\n# |# # he only addresses homosexual men, and never, in any post I've read,\n# |# # addressed lesbians?\n# |# \n# |# I can't really speak for Mr. Cramer here, but I can say that a\n# |# homosexual [male] is an entirely different animal than a lesbian.\n# |# There is virtually nothing that is analogous or related between the\n# |# aberrant behaviors practiced by these two groups of deviants.\n# \n# Obviously.  A homosexual male is of the XY chromosome pair and the lesbian\n# is of XX.  Besides, what does that have to do with the price of eggs?  Since\n# Mr Cramer is _very_ straight, he most probably gets off to the thought of\n# lesbians, like the majority of adolescent males.\n# \n# |#   The views expressed herein are   |  Theodore A. Kaldis\n# |  Adda Wainwright        |    Does dim atal y llanw!         8o)         |\n\nI hate to disappoint you, but that's not the case.  I don't \"get off\"\non lesbian sex, nor am I an adolescent.  Now, when I was an adolescent,\nI believed that homosexuals were just like everyone else.  But I've\nlearned since then.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"KW> If you don't like additives, then for godsake, \nKW> get off the net and learn to cook from scratch.  Sheesh.\n\nMary Allison exclaims:\nMA> EXCUSE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!\nMA> Why can't people learn to cook from scratch *ON* the net. \nMA> I've gotten LOTS of recipes off the net that don't use additives.\n\nBecause one simply _can't_ cook on the net, nor can one cook while ON the\nnet.  Cooking is best done IN a kitchen, ON a stove.  (Gotcha! *grin*)\n\n(I said this out of general frustration at people (not anyone in particular)\n who seem to expect packaged food to conform to their tastes.  In other\n words, if packaged foods are not to your liking, prepare foods that are.)\n\nMA> If you LIKE additives then get off the net and go to your local\nMA> supermarket, buy lots of packaged foods, and YOU get OFF THE NET!!\n\nI don't have strong feelings about additives, as long as I can't taste 'em.\n\n(As for the rest of your reply to me, I am sorry it it seemed as if i was \n picking on you.  I wasn't trying to do so.  Please accept my apologies.)","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I have a question about recursive, backward raytracing.\n\nWhen an incident ray (I) strikes an object at point P, first\nthe normal (N) is calculated. Light rays are calculated (L1 to Ln \nwhere n is the number of light sources) - these being the light\nrays that do not intersect with anything. The reflected ray (R) and\nthe transmitted ray (T) is calculated from the formulae.\n\nCalling the routine recursively on R and T will return the colours \nalong the rays (R and T) as rCol and tCol. Each object has its own\ncolour oCol and each light source has liCol (1 <= i <= n).\n\nThe question is: \n  How do you combine rCol, tCol, oCol and all the liCol's to get\n  the correct resulting colour to return along the I ray?\n\nAll colours are defined as strucures (records) having r, g, b components\nbetween 0 and 1.\n\nIf anyone has done this before could you give me a few hints?\n\n--\nAdrian Secchia","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Mail bounced, so...\n\n\nTraditional wisdom says you are almost certainly better off selling it \nyourself if you don't mind that extra hassle.  Having a trade-in on a purchase\njust makes getting the best price from a dealership more confusing.\n\n\nI assume this is _retail_ bluebook.  There are two bluebook prices, one for\nretail and one for wholesale.  You really want the retail price if you can \nget it.  The blue books also have adjustments you can make for low mileage\nand extras on your particular car.  You should look all this stuff up yourself.\nAlso keep in mind that the blue book prices are averages over the country\nthat may not apply in your area.  For example, blue book prices are low for\nCalifornia.  A better way of finding out how much your car might be worth is\nto call around and see what it's selling for (if any used lots have one) or\nlooking in local papers for similar cars and checking out the prices.  It \nmight be more time efficient to take a small loss (rather than hold out for\n6 months for the best price).\n\n\nI don't know what you mean by \"an acquaintance\" but I would make darn sure\nthat I was paid, that is, cashier's check in full before delivery.  There's\na real temptation when selling to a pseudo-friend to be more accomodating\nthan you should.  Make sure you get the money and if they hedge about paying\nin full at the start (with a cashier's check or cash) then I would go\nelsewhere.  Rememeber that you can probably sell your car to a used car lot\nor wholesaler and get wholesale bluebook.  That's probably a safer approach\nthan selling to a private party.\n-- ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"How can anyone pick the worst Yankee pitcher.  In the past 12\nyears there have been so many.\n\nDoes the name Steve \"You mean I should try and throw the ball\nto the catcher\" Trout?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I've just started programming with the PIC16c57 and I'd like talk to similar\nlike minded people ?  Have you built anything interesting, if so, I'd be\ninterested in talking about various aspects.\n\nYes, I already have the application sheets, assembler & simulator.\n\nCheers,\n\nStuart\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nUgliest stance of all time has to go to Oscar Gamble. The man would\npractically kneel in front of home plate in order to have a small strike\nzone! (He's just lucky that strike zone size isn't determined by how big\nyour afro is:)","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Less Than 40 People (617) 267-1700\n40 or more (617) 262-1915","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nWrong, wrong, completely wrong (and a little misleading, too).\n\nWhite noise is random noise whose energy density is constant for a\nconstant bandwidth. That is, a 5 Hz wide band at 20 Hz will have precisely\nthe same amount of energy as a 5 Hz band at 20 kHz.\n\nPink noise is random noise whose energy density is constant for a constant\nprecentage bandwidth. Thus, a 5% wide band of noise at 20 Hz (whose\nbandwidth is 1 Hz) will contain the same energy as a 5% wide band at 20\nkHz (whose bandwidth is 1000 Hz wide). \n\nWhite noise is often used with spectrum analyzers that have constant\nbandwidths, pink noise is used with audio-type real-time analyzers whose\nbandwidths are centert-frequency dependent (often described as \"1\/3\noctave\" or \"1\/2 octave\" or some such terminology).\n\nWhite noise, relative to pink noise, has more energy at high frequencies\n(at a rate equal to 3 dB per octave). Pink noise, relative to white noise,\nhas more energy at low frequencies (at a rate equl to, again, 3\ndb\/octave).\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Russell Turpin, as is his wont, has raised some interesting issues \nin his struggle with the Christian texts and the Christians. \nUnfortunately, he seems to be hoping for simplicity where it is \nnot available. The lukewarm stew he detects may well be an inevitable \nresult of the divine mixing himself up with a bunch of losers such \nas humanity. \n\nAlso unfortunately (perhaps) I have a deadline in two weeks, the \nresponsibility for which prevents me, in good conscience, \nfrom writing a more considered response and fully entering the\nfray, as it were. \n\nLet me then say what I can, briefly.\n\n-----\n\n\nThis point, for the net.browsers who also still read books, is\npursued throughly in Kaufmann, Critique_of_Religion_and_Philosophy.\n\n\nThis is a theological statement worthy of Barth.\nDr Turpin (DD) may wear the black robe of Geneva yet! :-)\n\n\nThis requires the assumption that all interpretations are\nequally valid, that there is no way of reasonably distinguishing\namong them. I wouldn't make that assumption; I don't think it is\na reasonable assumption. \n\n\nMichael, and I, and others, read 'the Bible' with Christian\nglasses. Among the things that this should imply is that the\nNT informs the OT, even to the point of dominanting it. Some\npoints in the OT (ceremonial & dietary laws) are explicitly \nabrogated by the NT texts. To drive Russell Turpin's point with\nadequacy, one needs to begin with NT texts (probably from Matthew,\nand probably about damnation) (Just trying to help :-) )\n\nThis part is, I discover, what most moves me to post:\n\nmls> I am a \"radical\" Christian *only* in that I take the gospel seriously.\n\n\nRussell Turpin's 'No' here is misplaced, not to say inappropriate.\nMichael's self-description much govern.  The equation of radical = liberal, \nwhich seems implied by Russell Turpin  is wrong.  Radical conservatives are \npossible (if sadly lacking in numbers at present). Thomas Merton\nwas a radical, even though conservative in some ways. St Francis\nwas a radical, similarly. How many examples are needed?\n\nmls> ... Why don't I and the (myriads of) other Christians like me\nmls> tell you something about Christianity? ...\n\nMichael's question gets to a heart of the matter (Klingons have\ntwo hearts, so my metaphor is not mixed, just extraterrestrial :-) )\nRussell Turpin (in an earlier post) had said that Michael (Michael's\ntheological positions, actually) didn't tell him much about Christianity;\nDean Simeon responds (this time gently): 'What do you mean?' More\ndirect, perhaps, would have been: 'What could you possibly mean?'\nThe implied rhetorical effort, to separate Michael from the \ntradition, is a failure. Michael is in the tradition. If your idea\nof the tradition doesn't include him, Change your idea of the tradition!\n\n\nHow can one answer this while staying on the more general issue?\nI'm on the other side of the interpretive fence (from Michael)\non this issue, yet '*nothing*' is a hideous overstatement.\n\nOne verse is enough to refute it; I'll offer two, from\nPaul (of all people):\n\n'In Jesus Christ there is neither male nor female...'(Galatians 3:28\n{I don't quote single verses as a rule, and I don't carry \nthem in my head}) and '*Nothing* shall separate us from the glory of God...' \n(roughly, from Romans). [If Russell would promise to convert based\non these or any other verses,  I'd promise to get the full context\nfor any that he requires :-) :-)]\n\n\nThis conclusion does not follow, even in short, from the\nargument that goes before. A surprising logical ellipsis.\n\nDave Davis, ddavis@ma30.bull.com\nThese are my opinions & activities alone\n\nQOTD:","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nTry .exe \/s  (\/s for save screen, \/c for config, defaults to \/c)\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nThe question is not \"If a tree falls in the forest and no one sees or hears,\ndid it fall?\" but rather \"How many koalas can that one tree take out???\"\n---------------------------------------------------------------tim@cpsg.com.au--\n--\n\n\nTim Fox\nCP Software Pty Ltd.  (ACN 006 640 133)               Ph:   +61-3-823-0222\n19 Cato Street, East Hawthorn,                        Fax:  +61-3-822-0089\nVictoria, Australia, 3123                  ACSnet:         tim@cpsg.com.au","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":": >What exactly does the windows bitmap format look like? I mean, how is\n: >the data stored: width, height, no. of colours, bitmap data? I couldn't\n: >find anything in ths user manual, is there any other reference material\n: >which would give me this information?\n\n: Well, this is *only* a guess:  If it goes by the \"true\" meaning of \"bit\n: map\", then it holds (x,y,c) where x pixel number in th ex-direction, y:\n: pixel-number in the y-dir, c: colour.\n\nCome on fellows! The format is quite plainly explained in the manuals.\nIt's in the \"Programmer's Reference, Volume 3: Messages, Structures,\nand Macros\" (MSC-Dev.kit for 3.1, should be also in the Borland's\nmanuals) pages 232-241 (depending what you need).\n\nFirst there is the BITMAPFILEHEADER-struct then the BITMAPINFO which\ncontains the BITMAPINFOHEADER and the RGBQUAD and then the bitmap\ndata. AND there is also a example among the example files (MS_SDK).\nHope this helps....\n\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n    ########################## | Yes, I do have some prior knowledge in this.\n   ##########################  | There is nothing dangerous in these dragons,\n  ####   \/ \/\/\/   \/             | they are totally harmless... But my opinion\n ####   \/  \/    \/ \/\/\/ \/\/\/      | is that kicking them might not be the right\n#### \/\/\/ \/\/\/   \/ \/ \/ \/\/\/ \/     | way to test it. So shut up and RUN!","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
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{"text":"\nWe have three options with respect to the Constitution:\n\n1. Abide by it.\n2. Duly amend it.\n3. Abandon those parts of which a majority disapproves.\n\nOf course, since the whole point of the Constitution is to restrain the\nwill of the majority, and since even in unfettered democracy we have \nnothing to fear from minorities, #3 amounts to abandoning the \nConstitution altogether.\n\nWhich will it be?\n\n---\nMark Pundurs","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nSo do other parts of the Bible when taken literally - i.e. the Psalms\nsaying the Earth does not move, or the implication the Earth is flat\nwith four corners, etc.  The Bible was written to teach salvation, not\nhistory or science.\n\n\nWhat ones?  Paryers for the dead or the intercession of saints? (Which\nare taught in 2 Maccabees, Sirach, and Tobit)\n\n\nBy your own subjective judgement.  This falling short is your judgement,\nand you are not infallible - rather the Church of Jesus Christ is (see 1\nTimothy 3.15).\n\n\nMore subjective feelings.   This is not a proof of anything more than\none persons feelings.\n\n\nAs I have written time and again, the Hebrew canon was fixed in Jamnia,\nPalestine, in 90 AD.  60 years after the foundation of the one, holy,\ncatholic, and apostolic Church.  Furthermore, the opinons of Jerome do\nnot count.  He was neither the Church, or the Pope, or an ecumenical\ncouncil, or a council in general, or an insturment of the Magisterium of\nthe Church.  He was a private individual, learned admittedly, but\nsubject to erro of opinion.  And in exlcuding the deuterocanon, he\nerred, as Pope Damsus, and the Council of Carthage, and the tradition of\nthe Fathers, clearly shows, as I pointed out in my previous post.\n\n\nI suggest you take heed of the last part of the statement, if you want\nto take it in the sense you are taking it, that taking away from the\nbook will cause you to lose heaven.\n\n\nThe order of the Canon is unimportant, it is the content that matters. \nNone of Jesus' statments exlcude the deuterocanon, which were\ninterspersed throughout the canon.  And remeber, there are some\ncompletely undisputed books, Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther, Ecclesiatses, Song\nof Songs, Job, etc. that are not quoted in the New Testament, which is\nnot taken as prejudicial to their being inspired.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I'm looking for some specs for a Toshiba TA6267-BP.  It appears\nto be a power amp housed in a 7-pin inline package and is used\nin my Mitsubishi VCR, circa 1985, as a DC motor controller for\nthe tape drive.\n\nChecking in the oldest IC Master I have (1990), I don't see it\nlisted, and it appears to have been discontinued.  If anyone\nhas anything on this part, I'd be *greatly* indebted!\n\nthanks in advance,","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\tWell, if SHIT means going to the Stanley Cup finals a couple years\nago, I'd rather be shit than a leaf fan.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":".. \n\nAs Ben says - this re-boost idea is all news to us here.  Do you know \nsomething we don't?  Please supply a source - it would be nice for \nthe schedulers of observations to know where the thing is going to \nbe.  These altitude numbers are also way off.  \n\nMy best source has: \n\"Minimum ST ALTITUDE in the PMDB is:    573 Kilometers\"\n\"Maximum ST ALTITUDE in the PMDB is:    603 Kilometers\"\n\"Delta   ST ALTITUDE in the PMDB is:      3 Kilometers\" \n\n(PMDB is Proposal Management Data Base - used to schedule observations.) \n..\n\n\nCould you supply some calculations?  You might check some recent \npostings that explained that 'a small booster' as suggested does \nnot now exist, so comparing the mass of something that doesn't \nexist to the mass of the OMS fuel seems impossible.  The contamination \nthreat also remains.  \n\n.. \n  Longer drag life I can understand, but could you explain the \nantenna pointing?  \n\n\nTell me about it.  Although the arrays can be (and are) moved perfectly \nwell utilizing the second electronics box.  Getting them both working \nis much desireable so as to reclaim redundancy.  \n\n\nI don't mean to jump on you - helpful suggestions are always welcome \nand we all know the more ideas the better, but I do want the true \nsituation to be described clearly and correctly, lest some get \nconfused. ","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"If anyone has a list of companies doing data visualization (software\nor hardware) I would like to hear from them.  Thanks.\n\n\t-- krs\n-- ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n    Vintage Brakes\n    176 Bluefield Ave.\n    Newbury Park, CA.  91320\n    (805)498-5527\n\n    They reline all types of obsolete motorcycle brake shoes with Ferodo\nmaterial.\n\n\n    Place to try:\n\n    Deutsches Motorrad Register\n    8663 Grover Place\n    Shreveport, LA 71115\n    (club for all types of two-wheeled German equipment, including\n     scooters.  I periodically see ads for Maico scooter stuff in their\n     newsletter.)\n\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
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{"text":"Marvin Minsky (hi there) writes of building \"perceptrons?\" in the 1950s using\nmotor-driven potentiometers to vary the weights. He reported that the circuits\nworked even tho there were wiring errors. (Can you say ROBUST?)\n\nCadium Sulfide cells vary with light. CMOS or TTL gates provide the SIGMOID\nsomewhat-linear-yet-somewhat-limiter transfer function often used. \nLow power Schottky gates, and earlier gates, has about a gain of X8.\nLEDs probably output enough light to easily control CdS cells, even at a\nfew mA. And paper with dark and light regions, controlled by pencil and\neraser, could also control CdS resistance. The very high input resistance of\nCMOS gates may let you charge up 1uF paper\/mylar caps to serve as memory.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nCar accessory shops here sell stuff called T-Cut, which is a very fine\ncutting paste for paint, and this will remove the dull finish and\nminor acratches. It will also remove all the traffic film and stuff that\nyou probably don't realise is there, and give your paintwork its original\nlustre and shine. It can sometimes react badly with metallic paint, though,\nso try it out carefully before going to town with the stuff. Afterwards\napply wax polish, and all will be well again.\n\nBTW - don't confuse T-cut with the cutting paste used for grinding in \nvalves...the principle's the same but the coarseness is vastly different...","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nWhat is fornication? (sex outside of marriage, abuse of sex)  \n\nIs not homosexual intercourse outside the context of marriage?\nIsn't it an unatural use of what God has given us?\n\nWhy is it that homosexuals are using the Grace of God as a license to\npractice sin? \n\n   For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long\n   beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who\n   turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only \n   Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.\n\n                                      Jude 4 (NASB)\n\nWhat is defined by God as a legitimate marriage?\n\n   For this cause a man shall leave his father and his mother, and\n   shall cleave to his wife; and the shall become one flesh.\n\n                                      Gen 2:24 (NASB)\n\n   And He answer and said, \"Have you not read, that He who created them\n   from the beginning MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE, and said, 'FOR THIS \n   CAUSE A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER, AND CLEAVE TO HIS WIFE;\n   AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH'?  Consequently they are no longer\n   two, but one flesh.  What therefore God has joined together, let no\n   man separate.\" \n\n                                      Matt 19:4-6 (NASB)\n\n   But because of immoralities, let each man have his own wife, and let\n   each woman have her own husband.  Let the husband fulfill his duty\n   to his wife, and likewise also the wife to her husband.\n\n                                      1 Corinthians 7:4,5 (NASB)\n\n\nI disagree... Every law that is written in Leviticus should be looked at \nas sin.  That is why we have a need for a savior.  I can understand \nsomeone who may not know a particular sin listed in the Levitcal law, but\nI would hope that they would repent when confronted with it.\n\n\n\nAlso I noticed that the preceeding verses say.  \n\n   Also you shall not approach a woman to uncover her nakedness during her\n   menstrual impurity.  And you shall not have intercourse with your\n   neighbors wife, to be defiled with her. \n\n\n                                   Leviticus 18:19, 20 (NASB)\n\nThese verses are just as relevant as:\n\n   You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an\n   abomination.\n\n                                   Leviticus 18:22 (NASB)\n\nWhy was God telling the Israelites not to practice such things?\n\n   Do not defile yourselves by any of these things; for by all these\n   the nations which I am casting out before you have become defiled.\n   For the land has become defiled, therefore I have visited its \n   punishment upon it, so the land has spewed out its inhabitants.\n   But as for you, you are to keep My statutes and Judgments, and \n   shall not do any of these abominations, neither the native, nor\n   the alien who sojourns among you\n\n                                    Leviticus 18:24-26 (NASB)\n\nHe is the Lord...  Listen to what he has to say... \n\nNobody wants to dismiss homosexuals.  We do love you, but we don't \nagree that what you practice is not sin.  You have not truly repented\nof your sin.  We hate the sin that is within your lives.  I hate sin\nthat is in my life.  All Christians should hate the sin that is within\ntheir own lives.  Confrontaion with sin should bring about repentance. \nYes I agree with John 3:17, but I also know that Jesus said, \"Repent for\nthe kingdom of heaven is at hand\"  Matt 3:17.  If you don't agree that\nhomosexuality is sin than how can you repent from it?  This means that\nyou remain in bondage to it.  Repent from it and God will set you free.\n\nIn His Love, \n\n       Mike\n\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nMichael Christensen                 |  Trust the Lord with all your heart,\nSenior Product Support Engineer     |  And do not lean on your own \nProcom Technology, Inc.             |  understanding.   Proverbs 3:5 (NASB)","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nHa!\n\n\nWatch me. It flies. It lands. It gets rebuilt.\n\n\n\nThat's not what they told us back in the '70's.\n\n\n1. It isn't a logical follow-on. A logical follow-on would have\nbeen either a Russian \"snowfox\" type thingey (for the lifting bodies)\nor something like MMI's Space Van (or Boeing's TSTO, or the airbreathing\nTSTO the military is allegedly _using_ now that probably cost less\nto develop than the shuttle does to fly for a year).\n\n\nKeep that attitude, and it'll be a couple centuries before we get real\naccess to space, unless another country without all that baggage comes\nalong and kicks our ass in the space race.\n\n\nOr NASA HQ. That doesn't give the rest of the program plausible deniability\nif we deceide that it wasn't worth the money we've spent, which is by now\nprobably a lot more than Apollo.\n\n\nYes, but it gets sold on the basis of the political statements.\nYou're saying basically that it met the engineering specs (which is\nquestionable, IMHO) so it's a success, never mind that you couldn't\nget the funding the shuttle eats with those engineering specs in\na thousand years.\n\n\nYou can get hypersonic flight data with an X-15 or a follow-on X-15\ntype vehicle for much less.\n\nAnd economics and engineering are interchangable; engineering in the\nabsense of economics is basically just physics, and in terms of physics,\nthe shuttle looks like a failure next to the X-15.\n\n\n\nHS>Sorry, support that I can arrange for launchers all goes to launchers\nHS>that I have some hope of riding some day.  At the moment, that's\nHS>DC-X's hoped-for successors.\n\n\nThe shuttle program has a bad record. I _once_ had hopes for the\nshuttle program. By now I know those hopes were false. \n\nAll I have for DC-X and similar and dissimilar experimental vehicles\nare hopes. But at least I know they aren't false hopes yet.\n\nI did support the shuttle, way back when. It didn't do nearly what\nit was supposed to. It's time to move on to something that might do\nthe job of orbital delivery better. Or at all.\n\n\n\n\n\nWe don't want to learn how to operate on orbit. It launches, it\nshoves out the payload, it lands. It doesn't waste payload hauling\nup and down EDO pallets and the like.\n\nThe only thing to be learned from shuttle is how *not* to build a\nlauncher.\n\nFinally: that bit about the \"proven\" shuttle. Are you hoping you can\ntell a lie enough times and get someone to believe it?\n\n\nHow much science and technology could have been done is the money spent\non shuttle had been spent differently?\n\n...\n\nLearn about economics and the current budget realities in the United States,\nplease.\n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAs if an aluminum stick being taken to Ulf's head is gonna solve the problem\nwith violence in the sport of hockey.  How the hell can you say the guy is\na goon and justify it, with your back-assward mentality?  Saying that hurting\na player will solve anyone's problems is asinine.  New rules and a new \nreferee system need to be instituted.  Right now, too many of the real goons\nget away with too much, because the ref is watching the play (or supposed to be:I've seen Koharski and Van Hellemond, to name a few, with their heads up their  asses on a few calls) rather than keeping an eye on the goofballs behind the \nplay.  Even if the linesmen were able to call all penalties, it would be an\nimprovement.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nIt's the video card.  It's 8514\/A compatible, which means it uses the\nsame i\/o addresses as com4.\n\n  --jh","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"From article <1r492jINN5fo@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>, by nomad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Michael Larish):\n\nI take it that when something happens that is wrong it's okay if\na bunch of people say it is?  For instance, if some people go on a\nmurderous rampage and lynch some blacks and then a poll is taken which\nshows that the majority of people think that this is acceptable then\ndoes this mean that what these people have done isn't bad?  This is an\nexample of mob rule not a democracy---a democracy in which people's\nrights are protected.  I hope that I've made myself clear on this.\n\n\nFine...you have the right to hold any opinion that you want to.  But,\nlet me ask you this:  are you outraged over this tragedy?  I hope\nthat you are, your opinions of David Koresh and his followers not\nwithstanding.  I know I am.\n\n\nWhy?  I'd be interested in hearing your reasons.\n\n\n\nScott Kennedy,  Brewer and Patriot\n\nBefore:  \"David Koresh is a cheap thug who interprets\n          the Bible through the barrel of a gun...\"  --ATF spokesman\nAfter:   \"[The ATF] is a cheap thug who interprets\n          [the Constitution] through the barrel of a gun...\"  --Me","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Try spectrum.xerox.com [192.70.225.78] in \/pub\/map\/dem.\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nThree possible results after interview:\n1) rejection outright\n2) acceptance outright\n3) the infamous 'wait list'... \n\nIf you are on a 'wait list', your entrance into medical school\nis dependent upon some other applicant withdrawing their\nacceptance.  This can happen as late as day -1 of starting\nclasses.  \n\n\nYou can always call the admissions office.  The secretaries\nshould have some idea of when a decision might be made on your\napplication.  Be calm, respectful, and friendly; secretaries\nhave more power than you might realize, and you never know-\ncould be the dean of admissions answering the phone.\n\n\nIf you don't get in this year, sit down and re-evaluate\nyourself: your motives, desires, and goals that are directing\nyou into medicine; your academic and extracurricular\naccomplishments.  Make a decision about whether you *really*\nwant to be a medical doctor.  I had classmates who dropped out\nin the first semester of med school because they found it was\nnot what they wanted to do; I have friends who applied four\nyears in a row before they were accepted.  Medicine as a\ncareer is a choice you must make for yourself; DON'T be\npushed into it because of your parents\/family\/significant\nother.  \n\nIf you still want to be a medical doctor, determine how you\ncan improve your application.  A letter of recommendation from\na professor who knows you well and can give an honest positive\nrecommendation is far better than one from a 'big-shot' famous\nprofessor who only vaguely remembers your face.  Also, don't\nbe afraid to ask these people if they can give you an honest\nand positive recommendation; give them a chance to say 'no,\nsorry' instead of the medical school saying 'no, sorry'.  I\nhave turned down writing recommendations for some students\nbecause I did not know them well enough to make any meaningful\ncomments, and some because I honestly could not recommend them\nat that point.  \n\nRewrite your personal statement; take it by an English\nprofessor or some other friendly person with skill and\nexperience in writing and proof-reading and get their\ncriticism, both about what you are saying as well as how you\nsay it.\n\nReview your academic accomplishments.  If your grades are poor\nin some area, don't be afraid to spend some time in further\ncoursework.  Evidence of determined committment will help\nhere.  If you filled your pre-medicine curriculum with gut\ncourses, it usually shows.\n\nLook at your extracurricular involvements.  Participating in\nlocal philanthropic or service organizations is a plus;\nsubstantial leadership roles in an organization help also.\nBeware of 'resume padding'; such things are not difficult to\nspot and weed out.\n\nOverall, a clear conception of where you wish to head and why\nyou want to get there, combined with an honest self-appraisal\nof skills and aptitude, will be the best path to take in\napplying to any program, medical or what-have-you.\n\nGood luck with the process -- as Tom Petty says, 'the waiting\nis the hardest part', at least emotionally. :)","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n   STILL, the Angel Gabriel's greetings was:\n   \"Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you.\n   Blessed art thou amongst women\".\n\n   Even Mary was confused about this greeting.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have\nsincere love for your brothers, love one another deeply, from the heart.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nBasically the right question, although I was interested in cases closer\nto home where the Sun is behind either a natural object or effective\nshielding.\n\n\nGood point (and thanks for the references).","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I agree with Gaia. Even though the Saturn has proved to be a very reliable car\nso far, a little money spent now is worth the peace of mind.\n\nIn my opinion, getting the PowerTrain warranty is enough. In my case, that's be\ncause; anything that needed repairing in the interior (sunroof, windows, doors,\n etc.) I could do myself. I just didn't want to mess with the engine and such.\n\nPlus I think the extra 3 years of 24-hour RoadSide Assistance must be worthe so\nmeting. I opted for the 5 year plan for $375.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I have been backing up my hard drive ever since I had to re-install\neverything from scratch after a crash (learned the hard way, didn't I?!).\nI am using a windows-based backup program (actually Norton), and I \nbegan wondering about the logic of this.  Sure, if I accidentally delete\na file, I can get it from the archive.  But what if my disk crashes again?\nI would not be able to start windows to run the backup program!  (Note,\nby crash, I mean, there was some error message that prevented the machine\nfrom booting properly.  I think I gave up too early, but I didn't have\nthe time\/patience\/tools to figure out exactly what the problem was.  My\nhard drive needed cleaning up anyway. Yeah right...)  This whole scenario\nis complicated by the fact that I am using Stacker.\n\nSo I think there are 2 possibilities:\n\n   1) I'm right.  If my disk really crashes, I would at least have to\n      re-install DOS and Windows to get the backup program working.\n   2) I'm wrong.  There is an easy way to make a \"mirror\" of a hard disk\n      that can easily restore it's state from scratch.\n\nThe polls are open...","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n  Sorry for any confusion I may have created.  The disk did come out of\na VS2000 and I would like to use it in a IBM PC clone.  The reason that I\nposted to comp.sys.3b1 was because I saw the drive (XT2190) mentioned\nin a for-slae notice.  I had asked for info before but didn't receive\nany replies.\n\n  Thanks once again for the help.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\t   Now I have a comment concerning Israeli terrorism\n   during the 1930's and 1940's.  The Hirgun, and other branch -\n   off militant groups, did fight the British do get them out of\n   Palestine.  Yet I fail to see how this Israeli form of\n   terrorism was better than the terrorism practiced now by the\n   Arabs.  These Jewish terrorist groups killed innocent British\n   soldiers, but not only thta also killed many Jews who were in\n   favor of a compromise with the Palestinians.\n\nThe Irgun killed SOLDIERS,  which is a legitimate way to drive an unwanted\nfogriend regime from a country.  They didn't kill blindly their families or\nsuch (not as a policy,  I agree that brits which were not soldiers also were\nkilled sometimes) nor they killed Arabs just for being Arabs.\n\nIn case I have to remind you the difference,  the majority of the attacks of\nthe Arab terrorist organizations was on civilians.  They even tried to\njustify their attacks by saying that all Jews in the Israel served in the army\nat one point in time or another and therefore are legitimate targets.\n\n   In addition, they\n   massacred an entire Palestinian village in 1948, contributing\n   to the exodus of the frightened Palestinians who feared their\n   very lives.\n\nYes, these exceptions were tragic mistakes.  I wasn't there and don't have\nreffereces handy but from what I heard your description is a bit carried away,\nmost of the vilagers fled with several dozens,  most of them claimed to be\nfighters being killed.\n\nThose \"massaceres\" are far from being the rule considering that dozens if not\nhounders of Arab vilages came under Israeli rule during the same time period.\n\n\t   I mention this not because I'm anti semitic [I'm part\n   Jewish] but because this self righteousness on the part of the\n   Israelites pisses me off so.  I'm not as critical of the\n   Palestinians because they were indeed screwed over by the\n   Jews.  It 's a damn shame that the Palestinians had to pay for\n   German and European anti semitism.\n\nWhat do you mean \"screwed over by the Jews\"?  They began the '47 war and\ndidn't accept the arrgenment planned by the U.N.,  what did you expect the\nJews to do??\n\n\t\t\t\t   Pissed off at Immature,\n\t\t\t     Closeminded, Self righteous\n\t\t\t\t   Semites\n                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\nArabs are also Semites.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nAbsolutely not true. Without religion - either an established one or\none you invent for yourself - the theist and atheist are equally\n(not) interested in God, because without religious revelation there\nis _no_ information about God available. Strip away the dogma and\nthe theists\/atheists are no different, simply holding a different\nopinion on a matter of little practical importance.\n\n\nSorry, but that doesn't help. What test will you apply to decide\nwhether it is God or Satan with whom you are speaking?\nHow will you know that you have not simply gone insane, or having\ndelusions? You are like a loaded gun.\n\n\nAh, you not as stupid as I assumed. :-)\n\n\nYes. We're all in this together - each human making up a small part of\nthe definition of humanity.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nJim,\n\nI hope you never drive (or ride) when:\n\nyou have been drinking \nyou have been taking prescription drugs\nyou didn't get enough sleep the night before\nyou are upset with your girlfriend\nyou just didn't feel like your brain was talking to your body\nyou think you are at laguna seca and want to break the lap record\n\nANY of the above situations have the potential for harm (read death)\nPeople make mistakesIf you have never endangered someone else by driving a vehicle in an\nunsafe manner, then go right ahead and bitch about Mr Infante misuse\nof a motor vehicle.  Otherwise, think about your OWN driving responsibilities.\n\nI am sorry about the loss of your friends, but it could just as well\nbeen the idiot who bought a Volvo because he has problems falling asleep at the\nwheel.\n\nEric","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nAre you saying that you have some extras that you would like to do some cost\nrecovery on?  I may be interested.  I think for practical and cost reasons I\nam limited to envelope detection so that leaves me with only increasing the\noutput power and increasing the optical gain at the receiver as methods to\nextend range.\n\n\nYes I'm interested in the company name.  I have access to an extensive data\nbook collection.  With that kind of power, are we getting into an area where\neye safety is getting to be a problem.\n\n\nThey are a long way from me but they might be a better source than I can find\naround here.\n\n\nI'm keeping my application confidential for now.  Raising the frequency should\nbe no problem, in fact one respondent to my question said that I may not have\nto mimic the 50% duty cycle normally used by IR detector chips.\n\n--","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I was just wondering what kind (brand, name, etc...) would be best on this \nbike.... thanks for your advice.... \n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"-*----\n\nI do not have enough medical expertise to have much of an opinion\none way or another on hidden candida infections.  I can\nunderstand the skepticism of those who see this associated with\nvarious general kinds of symptoms, while there is a lack of solid\ndemonstration that this happens and causes such general symptoms.\n(To understand this skepticism, one only needs to know of past\nfailures that shared these characteristics with the notion of\nhidden candida infection.  There have been quite a few, and the\nproponents of all thought that the skeptics were overly skeptical.)\n\nOn the other hand, I am happy to read that some people are\nsufficiently interested in this possibility, spurred by\nsuggestive clinical experience, to research it further.  The\ndoubters may be surprised.  (It has happened before.)\n\nI realize that admitting ignorance in the face of ignorance may\nnot endear me to those who are so sure they know one way or\nanother.  (And, indeed, perhaps some of them do know -- I am the\none who is currently ignorant.)  But I find this the most honest\nroute, and so I am happy with it.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nI waved to a guy on a riding mower this morning.  Does that count?\nBTW, I live in the country... EVERYONE waves out here!\n\n ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====----","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Mike Adams suggested discussions on long-term effects of spaceflight\nto the human being.  I love this topic, as some of you regulars know.\n\nSo, having seen Henry's encouraging statement about starting to talk\nabout it; I shall.\n\nI feel that we as a community of people have unique resources\nto deliver to the world a comprehensive book which can elaborate\non the utility of spaceflight to fields which are as divergent \nas medical intensive care, agriculture, environmental protection, and \nprobably more.  I do not believe that the general public understands\nthe impact of spaceflight on the whole of society.  In the absence\nof such knowledge, we see dwindling support of the world's space effort.\n\nI believe that we as a group have the responsibility to not only\ncommunicate amongst ourselves, but also with others through print media.\n\nA well-orchestrated and technically oriented analysis of life science\nvariables required to support long-duration spaceflight (like long\nexpenditions to the moon or Mars) would be entertaining and educational\nto the general public.  The objective of such an effort would be to \ncompile resources and publications from accepted scientific and technical\njournals which would address each major life science area.  In addition,\nideas for further research and development could be put forward for\nthe general public to ponder...allowing the general public to take\npart in the excitement of exploration.\n\nIndividuals interested should be willing to devote an hour per week\nto running literature searches and finding journal articles.  In addition,\nwe need to obtain the assistance of personnel from within the halls\nof NASA and industry.\n\nI have appreciated the positive responses to date and I am personally\neager to start this project.  Perhaps we could start with debate regarding\nhow best to grade the viability of various technologies for application\nto spaceflight.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nThis is a good question.  There are major blind spots in our understanding\nof what makes the earth habitable.  For example, why does the earth's\natmosphere have the concentration of oxygen it does?  The naive\nanswer is \"photosynthesis\", but this is clearly incomplete.  Photosynthesis\nby itself can't make the atmosphere oxygenated, as the oxygen produced\nis consumed when the plants decay or are eaten.  What is needed\nis photosynthesis plus some mechanism to sequester some fraction of\nthe resulting reduced material.\n\nOn earth, this mechanism is burial in seafloor sediments of organic\nmatter, mostly from oceanic sources.  However, this burial requires\ncontinental sediments (in the deep ocean, the burial rate is so slow\nthat most material is consumed before it can be sequestered).\n\nThis suggests that a planet without large oceans, or a planet without\ncontinents undergoing weathering, will have a hard time accumulating\nan oxygen atmosphere.  In particular, an all-ocean planet may have a\nhard time supporting an oxygen atmosphere.\n\nThere is also the problem of why the oxygen in the earth's atmosphere\nhas been relatively stable over geological time, for a period at least\n2 orders of magnitude longer than the decay time of atmospheric O2 to\nweathering in the absence of replenishment.  No convincing feedback\nmechanism has been identified.  Perhaps the reason is the weak\nanthropic principle: if during the last 500 MYr or so, the oxygen\nlevel had dropped too low, we wouldn't be here to be wondering about\nit.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I've been able to configure xterm so that I can type in accented characters.\nI'm using X11R5, with iso8859 fonts, my shell is tcsh with the following \ndefinitions : \nsetenv LC_CTYPE iso_8859_1\nstty pass8\n\nThen, I add the following in my .Xdefaults file:\n\nXTerm*eightBitInput: True\nXTerm*eightBitOutput: True\n\nXTerm*VT100.Translations: #override \\\nMeta<Key>': keymap(aigu) \\n\\\nMeta<Key>`: keymap(grave) \\n\\\nMeta<Key>^: keymap(circ) \\n\\\nMeta<Key>\\\\,: keymap(ced)\nXTerm*VT100.aiguKeymap.translations:  \\\n~Shift <Key>e: string(0xe9) keymap(None)\\n\\\n<Key>E: string(0xc9) keymap(None) \\n\\\n~Shift <Key>c:  string(0xe7) \\n\\\n<Key> C:  string(0xc7)\nXTerm*VT100.graveKeymap.translations: \\\n~Shift <Key>e: string(0xe8) keymap(None)\\n\\\n<Key>E: string(0xc8) keymap(None)\\n\\\n~Shift <Key>u: string(0xf9) keymap(None)\\n\\\n<Key>U: string(0xd9) keymap(None)\\n\\\n~Shift <Key>a: string(0xe0) keymap(None)\\n\\\n<Key>A: string(0xc0) keymap(None)\nXTerm*VT100.circKeymap.translations:  \\\n~Shift <Key>e: string(0xea) keymap(None)\\n\\\n<Key>E: string(0xca) keymap(None)\\n\\\n~Shift <Key>u: string(0xfb) keymap(None)\\n\\\n<Key>U: string(0xdb) keymap(None)\\n\\\n~Shift <Key>i: string(0xee) keymap(None)\\n\\\n<Key>I: string(0xce) keymap(None)\\n\\\n~Shift <Key>o:  string(0xf4) keymap(None)\\n\\\n<Key>O: string(0xd4) keymap(None)\nXTerm*VT100.cedKeymap.translations: \\\n~Shift <Key>c:  string(0xe7) keymap(None)\\n\\\n<Key> C:  string(0xc7) keymap(None)\n\nThis makes the Meta-{',`,^} keys behave as dead keys.\n\nOf course, this only works for xterm. For emacs, my solution is to install the\nLucid version of GnuEmacs 19, and to load the x-compose library.\n\n\nHope this helps,\n\n\n\tEric","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\nI use a PC with a screen access program (IBM Screen Reader) and a\nspeech synthesizer. (Accent SA).\n\nI would like to find out about screen access programs for the windows\nplatform.  I heard that were a couple of them out now under beta\ntesting, I would like to find out addresses\/prices etc.\n\nThanks,\n\n--Raman ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n  What the hell are U talking about? ESPN showed Pens\/Devils game as advertised.\n  BUt the morons at ESPN should know that Pens will kick Devils ass and the\n  game will be boring. I'd rather see Boston\/Buffalo game which seems to be\n  an exciting series since noone had expected Buffalo to get past the first\n  round. \n\n  Well let's hope they change their mind on THU's game and show some other\n  game. The Pens series is really getting boring. I want to see some \n  exciting game no matter who wins. If NHL wants a major network contract\n  then they better put some brains in ESPN people.\n\n  \n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Ken\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nXoftware from Age Software has proven good by me.  Runs under MS Windows and is relatively stable.\n\ttechsup@age.com\ncould probably help you out more.\n--Andy\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nTrue.  William \"Dummy\" Hoy was baseball's first deaf player.  He\nplayed in the bigs from 1888 through 1903 for several teams, including\nthe White Sox and Reds.\n-- \n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nBrian Curran                 Mead Data Central              brian@meaddata.com ","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"specify RamdomPlacement (or RandomPlace ? )\nin your .tvtwmrc. This places the windows not-interactively\nin pseudo - random positions on your screens.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\tThis is true, but it's not quite the whole story.  There were \n\tactually some people who were more careful in their methodology\n\twho also replicated the 'phantom leaf effect.'\n\n    One of the most influential critics of Kirlian Electrophotography\n    is a Theosophist (and threfore presumably willing to entertain the\n    hypothesis of scientific evidence for a human aura, electromagnetic\n    or otherwise), professor of electrical engineering at London's\n    City University, and a past president of the Society for Psychic Research \n    named A. J. Ellison.\n\n    After years of studying the method and the claims, Ellison\n    came to the conclusion that the photographic images are what we\n    calls 'Lichtenberg Figures,' an effect of intermittent ionization of\n    the air around the object.  It's a bit more complicated than\n    'not wiping off the plates,' but it comes down to the same thing\n    in the end, Kirlian electrophotography has much more limited\n    value (if any) than was previously widely thought.  Electrical and\n    magnetic fields generated by the body are much too small to be\n    of much use diagnostically without very elaborate equipment and\n    usually also tracer chemicals.\n\n\t\t\t\t\tkind regards,","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Caps\/Isles Fans,\n\nAnyone interested in catching the games from Nassau\nColiseum (hopefully there will be another) can catch\nthe game at North Carolina's Original Sports Bar in\nChapel Hill.  I'm pretty sure they carry HTS as well.\nThey had all three games on at the same\ntime last night.  This is the only place I know to\ncatch all of the Stanley Cup action.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Mark Ira Kaufman writes","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nBecause some people like them (and some people actually need them).\n\n\nYeah, right. Real muscle cars had a manual transmission, and their\nclutches aren't that heavy. Shelby-American used plenty of\nhigh-powered, high-torque engines, and Carroll only put autos in\nhis cars because people wanted them. (Blasphemers! Heretics!\nBurn them, burn them for defiling a Shelby with an auto! ;-)\nReal Cobras (and they were the ultimate sports car at the\ntime) had big-block Fords which turned out prodigious amounts\nof power and torque, and _none_ of them had automatics. \n\n\nYeah, if you call a gear shift in the middle of a curve \"fun.\" :-)\n\nI personally would _love_ to have a '66 Galaxie 500 7-Liter Coupe,\nwith a fire-breathing 427 and four-onna-floor (to go along side\nmy '66 Galaxie 500 pillarless hardtop with a fire-breathing 390\nwith three-onna-tree; I love the sound of dual exhaust in the\nmorning! :-). There's no comparison between a REAL American\nMuscle Car and a car with a big engine and an automatic, IMHO. \n\n\t\t\t\tJames","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\n\nWhat kind of ranking system is used?\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nEven I noticed that Gant's demeanor was not one of a batter\nattempting to regain his concentration.  Gant was stalking off.\nI wonder if Gant said something to the ump?\n\n\nActually, there was a small hand wave by Gant...as if to say\n'Don't bother me'. Gant may have said something here, too.\n\n\nCox was already halfway to the ump when the strike was called.\n\n\nMy impression was that Gant was not 'stepping out.'  He was making\na protest about the lack of an appeal to first.  As has been\npointed out earlier, there is no appeal to first on a strike.\nI can understand Gant feeling a little pressure in a two-out,\nRISP, 1 - 0 game, ninth inning.  He let it get to him.  The ump\nalso overreacted.  Gant was stalking off, but I doubt he would\nhave been gone long.  Hirschbeck should have let him have a\nmoment to compose himself before telling him to come bat.\nIMHO, umpires should be more flexible than what Hirschbeck\nshowed.  Gant was disturbed to the point it was pretty likely\nhe would not get a hit.\n\nA very bad finish to a pretty good game.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"*** On 04-19-93  03:56, Juan Carlos Leon had the unmitigated gall to say this:\n\n JCL> I just got a problem, I have a cheapo 2400bps modem which I use to\n JCL> connect to my university, but I get too much garbage on the screen. I\n JCL> do know it's because the noise in the line (I can actually hear it). \n JCL> So my question is will an error correction protocol help to eliminate\n JCL> this garbage?, my modem doesn't have any of these on hardware, can a\n JCL> software implemented protocol do the trick?\n\nThere is a software version of MNP-5 available from MTEZ, and it will often\nconnect with other modems that are MNP compatible, but if the modem that you\nare connecting to doesn't support MNP then it won't help.  Error correcting\nmodems will eliminate line noise, but only id there are error correcting\nmodems on both ends of the conncetion.  The added soeed is much worth the\nprice of error correcting modems.  9600 baud V.42bis modems are very\nreasonable, and they are only about 15% slower than the more expensive\n14,400 modems on the market.\n\n... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.\n--- Blue Wave\/QWK v2.10\n      ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Hi-\nDoes anyone out there know how I would get started on writing a\ndevice driver for the Apple CD300 CD-ROM drive, which *can*\nread audio CD formats out through the SCSI bus? ","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"hello,\n\nfor 2 months I've unsuccessfully attempted to get either\na 3rd or 4th serial port working on my system.\n\nvarious systems diagnostics (e.g., MSD, Norton) tell me\nit's there, but anything I hook up to it can't use it\n\nI have two serial ports on the motherboard\n\nif I set my internal FAX\/modem for com4 the utility\nprograms report a COM3\n\nI've checked to make sure all the IRQs and addresses are\ncorrectly (as listed in most manuals) set\n\nam I missing something very basic?\n\nwhere should I go from here?\n\nany help, even a point in the right direction, would be\nmost appreciated.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI have a feeling that you are not \"the enemy\".  There are without a doubt \ndickhead cops.  But there are at least as many dickhead bikers, even here \n(you know who you are :-).  I will certainly give you the same benefit of \nthe doubt as any other biker here.  Welcome.\n\nI think I can speak for the entire DoD in this.\n\n\n(Hey guys, free ride in Georgia!!!)","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nMake sure you use the small fonts driver & not the large fonts driver. Check\nthat in your setup. That's the only explanation I would find.\n\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\tHope this helps\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nPierre Turgeon of the Islanders","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"From article <C5sEGz.Mwr@dscomsa.desy.de>, by hallam@dscomsa.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker):\n[stuff about British cult members deleted]\n\nThey were using 50 caliber ammunition not 50mm ammo.  50mm would be 5cm; a\nshell of this size would be larger than a lot of cannon shells.\n\nSnipers could have screened the people trying to put out the fire.  Besides,\nthe ranch house (not \"fort apocalypse\"; it was just a house despite what\nthe FBI and ATF says) was on *fire*.  The \"Gun loonies\" couldn't hardly\nhave been shooting at fire men while there house was engulfed in flames.\nThe FBI and ATF don't have any excuse for not having fire engines there\nto put out the blaze.  The bastards waited until the fire was *well*\nunder way before they called the fire department in Waco.  They didn't\neven tell the fire department to be on standby.  I sincerely hope that\nthe FBI, ATF, Attorney General Janet Reno, and all others involved in\nthis fiasco get the just punishment that they so richly deserve.\nSomeone should pay for this needless, tragic waste of human life.\n\nSadly, these evil SOBs will probably never face justice.  The media\nand the government will just whitewash this incident and chalk it\nup as being solely David Koresh's fault.  Sadder still, the American\npeople will probably believe them.\n\n\nThis is not the problem...the problem is that we have a government that\nis becoming more tyrannical every day.  If people decide to own guns\n*and* live in one place together then that is their prerogative.  On\nthe other hand, if the BDs were in posession of explosives and illegal\nguns then the government did have the right to search their compound.\nBut, the allegations that the BDs were in posession of illegal weapons\nhasn't been proven yet, so I'm not going to conclude that the BDs broke\nany laws.  David Koresh was accused of abusing children, but if this\nis his *only* crime then the presence of the ATF can't be justified.\nThe ATF is only supposed to deal with firearms, tobacco, and alcohol\nviolations.  ATF agents are basically cigarette cops...they should\nstay out of other kinds of law-enforcement actions that are out of\ntheir jurisdiction.  Better yet, they should be s**tcanned IMO.\n\n\nSounds like something the SS would do.  Human life---children and adults\nalike---should be treated with respect---even if they are \"heavily-armed\nreligious wackos\".\n\nDavid Koresh's lawyer seemed to think that everyone *would* come out\npeacefully sooner or later.  The FBI and ATF had NOTHING BUT TIME ON\nTHEIR HANDS!  Why did they have to escalate the situation and cause\nthis senseless tragedy?  Their job is to protect the public and SAVE\nLIVES NOT KILL PEOPLE for crying out loud.\n\n \nDon't be so sure about that.  I read in a newspaper today that one of the\ncult members said that when one of the tanks went through the wall that\nit knocked over a lantern which caused the ranch house to be caught on\nfire.  This cult member also said that David Koresh had *no* intentions\nof committing mass suicide.  David Koresh's lawyer also confirms this.\nTherefore, if this is true then this means that the FBI AND ATF MURDERED\nEVERYONE IN THAT HOUSE!  Even if this is not true, the FBI and ATF still\ndon't get off the hook because they waited a damn long time to call the\nWaco fire department.  Perhaps they wanted all these people to die.\n\n \nYou're wrong on several accounts.  ATF agents were adequately armed.  They\nhad MP5s, AR-15s, and shotguns.  Some agents were armed with automatic\npistols but not all were.  The ATF's initial claim---which they later\nretracted---that agents were underarmed is simply ludicrous.\n\n\nGun control isn't the only issue here.  If the sick little monkeys in\nWashington try to use the Waco incident as a reason to ban guns then\nthey will have demonstrated just how f***ed up they are.  What concerns\nme much more than new gun control legislation is that the government\nseems to be able to get away with s**t like they did in Waco...they are\nbecoming more and more callous about people's rights and the law.  This\ngreatly disturbs me and it should disturb you as well.\n\n\n\nScott Kennedy,  Brewer and Patriot","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
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{"text":": \n: > Surely you are not equating David Koresh with Christianity? The two are\n: > not comparable.\n: \n: This is always an option: when the sect is causing harm, re-label\n: the cult to something else.\n: \n: Cheers,\n: Kent\n\nGood point.\n\nI would not doubt that DK could have spouted verse and debated with best.\nAccording to reports his extensive Bible knowledge was one way he sucked\nin the fools (followers?).\n\nQuote bible all you want. I too judge what you say be what you do and\neven more by if it makes sense.\n\nSense, common that is.  Doesn't seem so common after all!\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n   I guess that it was not acceptable because Germany *also* chose\n   a path of aggression simultaneously that put the interests of\n   other countries in peril. I wonder whether US or other countries\n   would have risked themselves if only Jews were persecuted and\n   Hitler had no imperialist ambitions. (I am no student of history\n   and I am just asking questions.)\n\nI don't think they would have.  After all the U.S. was one of the\ncountries that turned away Jewish refugees when there was still time\nto get them out.  (Considered and rejected at the Cabinet level then..)\n\n   ...\n   Under what conditions should US interfere in foregin countries,\n   is an abstraction one must clarify before resorting to acrimonious\n   accusations of religious bigotry and such.\n\nAs I understand it, International law provides the right of any\ncountry to intervene to prevent genocide.  I think once the World\nCourt has ruled that genocide is being committed... \n\nIf a Human Rights Czar is appointed at the U.N., we could have\ninternational monitors recording events and responses of local\nofficials and develop an objective basis.  This could be backed by\nadjudication at the International Court of Justice and enforcement\nthrough a Rapid Deployment Force under the U.N. Secretary General's\ncommand.  I would like to see the U.N.  directly impose ICJ rulings\nwhenever feasible (without the possibility of vetos at the UN Security\nCouncil.. much as the President can't veto a U.S. Supreme Court\nruling). \n \nThe U.S. is now supporting the effort to appoint the HR Czar -- the\nthird world opposition is led by three countries, China, Iran and\nPakistan (What company is Pakistan keeping!).  \n\nThe U.S. is also reconsidering its opposition to the U.N. force\ninitially envisaged in the Charter (although under the control of the\nSecurity Council).  The UN SC is quite a flawed body.  Rogue\ngovernments like the PRC have even threatened their veto in the last\nfew months to block the move to place U.N. troops in Bosnia under\nChapter 7 instead of 11 (if I have the numbers straight) where they\ncould have moved from being a monitoring to an enforcement force\nwithout requiring further SC action.  (The PRC even continues to\nthreaten using its veto on U.N. action despite the ICJ ruling.  The\ncurrent set-up requires the SC to enforce ICJ rulings..).\n\nPeace,","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"=Which was why I started checking EVERY time I got sick.  And EVERY\n=time I got sick MSG was somehow involved in one of the food products.\n\nWhich points up the \"studies\" made by amateurs:  Did you ALSO check EVERY TIME\nYOU DID *NOT* get sick?  \"No,\" you say?  Why not check every thing you eat when\nyou don't get sick and find out how much MSG you're actually consuming?\n\n=> All that's needed now is that final step, a double-blind study done\n=> on humans.  There isn't even an ethical question about \"possible\n=> harm\", as this is a widely used and approved food additive.\n=\n=But - some say that only 2% of the population has a problem with MSG -\n=some say it's more like 20% - but let's say that it's 5%.  How many\n=people would have to be tested that would have a problem?  Also - I\n=KNOW I have a problem with it, and I wouldn't VOLUNTEER for a test.\n\nIf you knew enough about what the test was about to decide that you didn't want\nto participate because it involved MSG, you'd've already made yourself\nineligible (since MSG IS detectable by taste). How can anybody be so clueless\nas to what double blind studies are all about?\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nCarl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI\/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"If someone has downloaded the PCTools demo from Compuserve,\nplease upload it to CICA or other FTP site.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":": Hi!\n: \t\n: Is it possible through either pin configuration or through software\n: programming to change the IP numbers on an ethernet card?\n: \t\n: Thanks in Advance!\n: \n: -- \n: =-Dave   *Tigger!*\n: \n: djohnson@moose.uvm.edu        'Tiggers are wonderful things!'\n: Dave C Johnson\n\nI think you mean the ethernet numbers.  The 8 byte ethernet id is the unique\nElectronic Serial Number (ESN) assigned to each ethernet board in existence.\nThis is a \"physical layer\" concept.  The IP address is a higher layer protocol.\nThe analogy to telephone service is the IP address is your phone number, while\nthe particular wire pair in the cable on the pole has some (unknown to you or\nI) physical identification scheme (number).\n\nBut to answer your question (assuming you indeed meant the Ethernet number)\nit is not supposed to be possible to change the number.  Of course the\nmanufacturer can always retro-fit a board, but there could hardly be a\nreason to ever do that.\n\nIf your question is actually referring to the IP address, it is most definetly\nchangable.  But it is strictly software.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Just saw an article in New Scientist; AT&T videophones won't talk to (?)BTI \nvideophones. The AT&T ones use a 19.2kb modem, BTI uses 14.4kb. AT&T models \nhave to communicate using all AT&T exchanges, whereas the BTI can route \nvia most current exchanges. Suggestions include building standards converters \ninto telephone exchanges - the mind boggles :)= . The BTI design is a bit \nmore conservative and is better able to cope with current data compression \nhardware on long-distance lines.\n\n(not having the magazine to hand, I may have mis-remembered BTI. I think it\nis a British one made by GEC-Marconi, and currently selling to other\ncountries). \n\nYet Another Standards Screw-up.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\tNice sig. Like the change. \n\tBTW: Could you post the names of the people who are going to be on the\nletter? I (and I'm sure others) would like to know if we are included. If I'm\nnot I want to be! Roger is a fool!\n\n\t","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nOne more reason for men to learn the Lamaze breathing techniques, in order\nto be able to get some pain reduction instantly, wherever you are.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nOr somebody get them by a local call and contact a ftp site for\nuploading. If this is not possible, I can keep them on my disk and\nemail the at request uuencoded. Provided, that somebody sends them to\nme, of cource. (I live in NY:-)\n\n--\nPenio Penev  x7423 (212)327-7423 (w) Internet: penev@venezia.rockefeller.edu","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nCool.  And thank you for an intelligent response devoid of the silly\nname-calling of others.  :)\n\n\n One of the basic things you need to \n\nOK.\n\n\nActually, I think the large-scale sample size is part of the problem.\nIt seems to me that if we were to plot all the players in baseball\nin regard to BA vs. Clutch BA deviation we would get some kind of\nbell curve.  (The X-axis being the +\/- deviation in clutch hitting\nvs. non-clutch;  the Y-axis being the number of players.)  Certainly\nthere would be *some* players on the extreme ends of the bell.  My\n*supposition* is that if we were to find the SAME players consistently\n(year after year) at one end of the bell or the other, then we might\nbe able to make some reasonable conclusions about *those* players\n(as opposed to all baseball players).\n\n  As a counterexample to \n\nYou won't hear those kind of accusations from me.  It is interesting\nthat you selected Maldonado, because he is someone whom I have also \nlooked at.  He has been a very inconsistent hitter (in terms of BA),\nhitting in 1989 - 92  .217, .273, .250, .272    Admittedly, he has\nbeen traded between leagues as well as clubs.  His clutch hitting \nrecord is equally inconsistent.  So, for my purposes in 1993 I would\nnot draw any conclusions about his ability to hit in the clutch based\non his prior performance.  I don't know how I would have felt in 1988,\nbut you may indeed be right.  \n\nWhen I looked at Sabo I found a more consistent record of hitting, and\na more consistent pattern of his clutch hitting being proportionately\nbelow his non-clutch BA.  Ditto for Joe Carter.\n\nThis probably brings us to the heart of the disagreement I am having\nwith others on this topic.  Must any conclusion based on statistical\nhistory be able to be applied broadly throughout a data base before\nit has any validity?  Is it impossible (or irrational) to apply\nstatistical analysis to selected components of the data base?\n\n\n\nI completely accept that reasoning.  Again, what if we were to find\nthe same individuals at each end of the spectrum on a consistent\nbasis? \n\namen.\n\n\n\n--\tThe Beastmaster\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nI see that I misphrased my question.  I should have asked WHICH\nfull-autos Kratz can accurately distinguish from semi-auto\nlook-alikes.  I should have also included some semi-auto only guns in\nmy list to see if he'd ask how to distinguish them from their\nnon-existent full-auto \"relatives\".\n\nLet's do the former now.  Kratz has claimed that he can visually\ndistinguish full-autos from semi-autos.  For which full-autos is he\nmaking that claim?  How does he do it?  Let's get specific, and as\nexhaustive as possible.\n\n\nMaybe?  Why is Kratz asking about what he told us that he knows?\n\nIs Kratz certain that he can distinguish a three position switch from\na two position switch via TV inspection?  (Does he even get to see the\nswitch in the typical police display of guns?)  Note that one might\nwell be able to see this sort of thing in a hands on visual inspection\neven though it won't be seen on TV.  And to think that Kratz was\ntelling us that seeing it on TV was just as accurate as being\nthere....\n\n\nWhy all the questions?  Kratz assured us that he could make this distinction\nand now he's asking us how he did it....\n\n\nWhat about it?  It only demonstrates that, as I predicted, Kratz\nwas blowing smoke on this.\n\n\n-andy wonders what Kratz is learning from this","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"In what seems to be a classic Mitchell move, he drops a fly ball, and injures\nhis hamstring on the same play. Haven't heard anything on how serious the\nleg is.\n\n--->Paul, who me? bitter about Mitchell's performance in Seattle? Nah.\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n           We will stretch no farm animal beyond its natural length\n\n  paula@koufax.cv.hp.com   Paul Andresen  Hewlett-Packard  (503)-750-3511","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"The *security* of the system does depend only on the secrecy of the keys.\n\nThe ability to tap is an inherent *insecurity* which depends fundamentally on\nthe secrecy of the algorithm.  To spell it out, because so many people seem to\nmiss the point, if the algorithm were published, anyone could create a chip\nwhich would work correctly with the Skipjack chips but which would not have\nits key registered.\n\nI believe there is no technical means of ensuring key escrow without the\ngovernment maintaining a secret of some kind.  For example, the secret could be\nthe private keys of the escrow agencies; their digital signatures would be\nrequired before a key could be used.  In this case, the NSA\/NIST\/whoever has\ndecided that protecting the entire algorithm is easier\/cheaper\/more secure than\nother possible protocols.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nThe obsession with discussions of past (or present) events seems to be\nlargely centered on trying to \"prove\" that \"they\" are worse than \"us\".\nAs we see over and over, that leads nowhere except to make ourselves\nfeel superior. It's as if we've become addicted to periodic injections\nof \"self-affirmation\" that draw their power from denigration of the\n\"other\" and romanticization of ourselves. The hope is that we will begin \nsometime to apply these discussions in some way towards consideration of \nhow to defuse the situation, advancement of negotiations and the search \nfor common ground between the parties involved.\n \nOf course, for this to happen we can't believe that the best path to \n*making ourselves feel better* is at the expense of others. As long as \nthose valuing the coming together of \"opposing\" parties do not pursue \ntheir vision with the same passion as do those polarization specialists, \nwe will stay stuck in the circus of one-upsmanship we now have. We're\ngetting precisely what we are willing to work for.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Can someone tell me where to find 120volt 3 watt 40 mA fans that\nfit the standard computer mounting size )ie. 3 and 1\/8 inch wide\nand 4 inches diagonal from hole to hole (hole=where bolt or screw\ngoes through.  I have found higher (NOISY) fans that are 120 v\n6 watt, but I need a quite fan.  I can use 12 volt as well, but\nfound just about all 12 volt fans to be noisy.  I also find that\nthe 120 v fans are not only quieter, but the blade shape has a lot\nto do with it.  I have a dead fan that was quiet in it's day.  It\nhas long blades (like fan blades in a tturbo engine on a jet is\nthe only way I can describe it.  The dead fan is ETRI Model 126LH.\nActually it's not dead, it just makes a hideous rattle noise so\nit's stealthy qualities are void.  Thanks.\n\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"[...]\n\nIf they're planning on patenting an algorithm, then I hope they go out of\nbusiness as quickly as possible.  And you can tell them I said that.\n\nI'm sure many other readers of these newsgroups will agree, too.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Jerry Salem writes\n\nThe only way to do that would be to add a video card to the LC expansion  \nport. This doesn't have to be that expensive; several companies have portrait  \nmonitor\/video card bundles available. \n\nCheck a current MacWorld\/MacUser.\n\n--Nizam\n\n--","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I have the following Playboy videos for sale.  Email me if interested.  All are\noriginal tapes (of course) in original boxes.\n\nVideo Playmate Calendar 1991\nWet & Wild II\nSexy Lingerie II\nSexy Lingerie III\n\nPrices are $15 each, 2 for $25, 3 for $35, or all 4 for $45.\n\nI also have a bunch of magazines (Playboy, Penthouse, Hustler, Chic, Club, and\nmore)  Email me if interested in those too.  I'm willing to sell all or part of\nmy collection cheaply.\n\n-Justin (jslauson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n \"If builders built buildings like I write programs, then the first woodpecker\n                 that came along would destroy civilization.\"","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nSo of the 120 hp produced by my FJ1100 engine, \n\n      12 hp  * (745.7 watts)\/1 hp = 8.948 kilowatts \n\nis being dumped into 220 leetle tiny o-rings?  That's 40.67 watts per\no-ring!  Seems a little *hot*, doncha think?","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"<><><><> L O O K I N G       F O R      D A N A      W E I C K <><><><>\nHE IS A CROOK.  DON'T DEAL WITH HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!\n\nPlease Help:\n\nI am looking for Dana Weick.  A month ago I made a deal with him over the\nnet.  I was to sell him some memory, in exchang for $100 and a 486-66 cpu.\nI thought the deal was great, so I went on with it.  \n\nI sent him the memory COD FOR $100.  He was then suppose to send me the cpu.\nI receive his COD payment on 4\/8\/93.  He send me a message the he sent the\ncpu out 4\/16\/93.  It has been two weeks, and I didn't receive the CPU.\n\nI send him numerous message asking for confirmation that the cpu was ship, or\nwhat address he send it to (to make sure it didn't get lost in the mail.)\nHe never reply my mail.  \n\nI finally resorted to calling him in Arizona.  The first call didn't get\nthrought, I got  an answering machine.  I left him my number.  He didn't reply.\nI call again the next day and he pick up the phone.  I asked him if he had\nsend out the cpu.  He said yes, but he doesn't know what address he sent it\nto.  \n\nHe said that you would check his record at home and call me back the next day.\nTo my suprise, He never called.  I then send him some more email messages, he\nnever reply again. (strang, when the deal was being made, he reply to every\nof my message, now that He got my memory, He won't even reply to me.)\n\nNow:  I am still calling him, but he won't pick up the phone.  I am also still\n      emailing him, but he won't reply my mail.\n\nSo if any one know this DANA WEICK, please contact him.\nhe can be reach at:\n\t\t\tDana Weick\n\t\t\t4238 W Las Palmaritas\n\t\t\tPhoenix, AZ 85051\n    (602)925-6123 in the day time this is his business number.\n    (602)842-2145 in the evenings this is his home number.\n\n\nhis email address is:\n\t\t\tweick@master.lds-az.loral.com\n*******This is our deal\n\nFrom weick@master.lds-az.loral.com Wed Mar 17 20:09:20 1993\n\n[my address]\n\nGreat, you can send the SIMMS to me at:\nDana Weick\n4238 W Las Palmaritas\nPhoenix, AZ  85051\n(602) 925-6123 (days) (602) 842-2145 (evenings)\n\nI would prefer US Mail, 2nd Day Priority (it only costs $2.90)\n\nThe CPU is brand new, install it correctly (meaning don't plug it in\nbackwards or bend any pins) and I'll warranty it for 6 months.\nThanks\n\n****ON 4\/8 I SEND HIM AND SAID...\nthat I got the cod payment.\nand asked if the cpu is sent out yet\n****HE REPLIED.....ON 4\/9\n\nGlad the COD payment got to you OK, the CPU has been sent so keep your eyes out\nfor it.  Be *very* careful when you install it, be careful of static discharge,\nbending pins during insertion and above all make absolutely certain you\nplug the chip in the proper orientation.  The chip was checked out prior to\nshipping and if you cook it by plugging it in backwards I won't be real\nsympathetic! \n \nIf you don't know how to tell what orientation the chip should be installed, \nDON'T GUESS!\n\n\n********************************DANA WEICK UPDATE:****************************\n\nI call him sunday, his wife Debbie picked up the phone.  She said that he was \nbusy with his kids, and he would call me back in 10 minuets.  Half an house\nwent by, Weick didn't called.  I called him again, and his phone was discon-\nnected.\n\nSince this post,  I have numberous people who mail me saying that this DANA\nWEICK have ripped them off.  We got do something about this guy.  He has\nappearrently been doing this for a few years now.  And he is getting away\nwith it.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n-- ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nThat doesn't count as getting rid of the press.  Getting rid of the press\nwould mean getting them far enough away so that they wouldn't be able to\nsee what is going on.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nFrom what I understand of my experience in looking up this word, and \ndiscussing it with a Greek-literate individual, the meaning of the \nword is rather clear.  Basically it literally means \"he who beds with a man\"\nor \"he who has sex with a man.\"  The burden of proof is on the \npro-homosexuality side of the argument to show that the word has an \nidiomatic meaning nor evident from its literal meaning.  One can speculate\nall day long that it might mean something else, but we need evidence\nbefore we create new doctrines, and get rid of the historical understanding\nof the meaning of this word.\n\nLink Hudson.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I.D. Benham, on the Wed, 21 Apr 1993 17:11:39 GMT wibbled:\n: Hi,\n:    I'm now in the market for buying a BMW.The ideal would be an R80 RS but I'd be\n: interested to here of any R80 for sale .Age is not a problem - I'm more\n: interested in a good example without a massive amount of miles and one which has\n: been well maintained as I intend to keep it well and for some time.\n\n:    I would also like to know if anyone has any sound advice as regards to\n: INSURANCE - 27yr old,licence for 9 years,no accidents\/claims\/convictions.Am I old\n: enough to get BMW owners club insurance yet or will I have to wait until next\n: year? \n\n: \t\t\t\tIan\n\n: \t\t\tFuture Beemer Owner\n\n\nMy best advice would be to contact a local dealer (see the yellow\npages under \"Motorcycle Dealers\") and ask for the address of the local\nsection BMW Owners Club.  The local BMW dealer will give you details\nof the BMW Insurance terms and the club will help you with all\ndetails.  Getting a bike from the dealer is the best bet, if you can\nafford it.  The warranty is fairly handy as BM bits are made from\nsolid gold, apart from the parts made from ruby and platinum.  Apparently.\n\n--\n\nNick (the perpetually broke BMW Biker)   DoD 1069   Concise Oxford  No Loot\n\nM'Lud.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nWhat CPU does this use?  I need the info fro my Thesis.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"First $50.00 grabs it! It's a Sears Kenmore 700 Watt unit FYI.\nArt\n\nThis unit has been sold. Thank you for your replies!\n\nThere is another oven available for those still interested. My mother\ndecided to sell her spare. Same price, $50.00 to the first taker.\n\nHer's is strictly microwave, no convection, and is in equally good\ncondition. Same size as our's, approximately 4-5 cubic feet.\n\nLet me know!\n\nArt\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Note: The device has never been used (IE: still in plastic) and is 10baseT","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nAnd is there a reason or value for such a brainless shit for brains asshole\nto be haer.  You are a self hating bastard.  Neither your name nor your\nideas, which I've come across before and thought were too stupid and \nuncivlized to respond to, prove your first-worldist claim and civility.\n\n\nGive me sources to read it or shut up.  You think I will take such an\nignorant as yourself on his words??\n\n\nThere is nothing primitive about Islam except in your mind.  I do read and\nlive daily with disagreable facts, and I only ask them to prove themselves.\nThe last time I checked, this was truly a 1st-worldist civilized approach to\nfacts and figures.  I did not whine about  the jews, I merely stated a fact\nthet is strange to nobody.  As far as me being jerk, FUCK YOU.  (Sorry to\nother people that read this).\n\n\nI am at home fuck face.  my name does not mean I am from somewhere else,\nexcept in your litte manute stupid brain.   And while we are at names,\nyours does not particularly seem to be 1st-worldist.  Ajami?? What's that\n?  Arabic??  As I said you must be ashamed of what you are.  You must\nreally hate yourself don't you ass-hole??\n\nMohammed","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nWhy? There is no need to go into this.......\n\n\nespecially this rivetting piece of information.\n\n\nAs I remember, someone did ask if UV had a speach code. But, really,\nthere is no need for this brief survey course. \n\n\nHow wonderful for you.\n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nThen delete the \"unfortunately\".   Now tell me that the two statement\nsay effectively the same thing.\n\nAnd to save everyone a couple of trips round this loop, please notice\nthat we are only obliged to use force to preserve self.   We can choose\n*not* to preserve self, which is the point of pacifism.\n\n\nAnd in this case they don't prescribe the same things, so.....\n\n\nIf you don't think the use of force is immoral, why minimise its use?","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"After reading the posts on this newsgroup for the pasts 4 months, it \nhas become apparent to me that this group is primarily active with \nLiberals, Catholics, New Agers', and Athiests.  Someone might think \nto change the name to:  soc.religion.any   - or -  perhaps even\nsoc.religion.new.  It might seem to be more appropriate.\nHeck, don't flame me, I'm Catholic, gay, and I voted \nfor Bill Clinton.  I'm on your side!                      \n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nWe want to give lawyers something to do in the 21st cen., don't we?\n\n\nOh I bet you do.  They are probably just better at it than our crooks. :-)\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I have been posting monthly \"how-to-setup a SLIP client on a PC\" posts for a \nfew months.  Lots of work, and imminent graduation have come in the way of \nposting one of these for March or earlier this month -- for which I apologize.\n\nThis file includes information on writing a script for University of Minnesota\nPHONE, and also a batch file hack that lets you use other packet drivers with \nPHONE. \n\nFor additions, modifications and corrections, I can be reached at\n<ashok@biochemistry.cwru.edu>\n\nBest wishes,\nAshok\n\n-- begin SLIP.TXT --\nBased on my experiences on setting up SLIP under DOS and Windows,  here\nare my comments on setting up SLIP in this environment.  I thank the\nTrumpet beta testers and the CWRU SLIP beta testers for their comments.\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\nConfiguring your Modem:\n\na) Turn off DTR (AT&D0&W)\n   I have to disable DTR because the communication program that I use\n   to dial my SLIP server (QMODEM) drops DTR when I exit the program\n   and therefore hangs up the line.  If you use a program like Kermit\n   or Conex to establish the SLIP connection, then this need not be done.\n   These programs do not necessarily hangup the line when you exit.\n\n   NOTE: If you use Univ. of Minn. PHONE to dial and establish a\n         SLIP connection, you do not need to turn off DTR.\n\nb) Dial and establish the SLIP connection first.  This can be done\n   automatically if you use a program like PHONE (from the University of\n   Minnesota) which will dial and establish a SLIP connection then load the\n   SLIP packet driver.  The PHONE scripting language is simple and\n   phone scripts can be easily written to configure PHONE to work with\n   other SLIP server.  In addition, while the only packet driver\n   that PHONE works with is UMSLIP (currently), it is easy to write a\n   batch file hack that lets PHONE work with other packet drivers.\n   There is a section on PHONE in the document with both script and\n   batch file examples.\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\nConfiguring the SLIP drivers:\n\nThere are five SLIP packet drivers commonly available\nCSLIPPER.EXE    Peter Tattam's compressed SLIP driver\nSLIPPER.EXE     Peter Tattam's SLIP driver\nSLIP8250.COM    Crynwr driver (I like Phil Burn's modified driver)\nETHERSL.COM     Crynwr driver (ethernet simulation over SLIP)\nUMSLIP.COM      Univ. of Minnesota driver (based on SLIP8250)\n\nOf these four, I vastly prefer C\/SLIPPER.EXE over SLIP8250.COM or\nETHERSL.COM for the following reasons:\n\na) It is much faster even though my modem has just a 16450 UART\nb) While using EtherSLIP\/SLIP8250\/UMSLIP, myself and several others\n   have noticed that the PC clock gets messed up after performing a\n   long FTP transfer.\nc) It supports PKTMUX when used in ethernet simulation mode\nd) When used in Ethernet simulation mode C\/SLIPPER seem to work with\n   every TCP\/IP application that I have tested it with.\n\nInstructions for C\/SLIPPER.EXE (and you do not use PHONE)\na) Load SLIPPER in your AUTOEXEC.BAT file according to instructions:\n   For instance if you have a v.32bis modem on COM1\n   slipper com1 vec=62 baud=57600\nb) If you use DOS TCP\/IP applications in Win 3.1 DOS boxes, then use the\n   double-ended packet driver shim WinPKT.COM -- this creates a virtual\n   packet driver at 0x60.  DOS applications in native mode, DOS\n   applications in Windows 3.1 DOS boxes and Windows applications can all\n   use this virtual driver at 0x60.\n   winpkt.com 0x60 0x62\nc) If you use QVT\/Net, load PKTINT.COM next.  QVT\/net is configured in\n   QVTNET.INI to use the interrupt at 0x60.\n   pktint.com\n\nInstructions for SLIP8250.COM:\na) Try getting a version 10 SLIP driver.  Philip Burns of Northwestern\n   University has a modified SLIP8250.COM driver that is better at hardware\n   handshaking.  This driver is distributed along with NuPOP.\nb) Load the driver AFTER establishing the SLIP connection.  My modem is a\n   V.32bis modem on COM1, so here is how I would load the driver.\n   slip8250 -w 0x62 -h 4 SLIP 0x03f8 57600\nc) As discussed above if you use DOS TCP\/IP applications in Windows 3.x\n   DOS boxes, you probably want to use WINPKT.COM\n   winpkt.com 0x60 0x62\nd) If you use WinQVT\/net, load PKTINT.COM\n   pktint.com\n\nInstructions for ETHERSL.COM:\nIf you choose to use ETHERSL.COM instead of SLIP8250.COM, the\ninstructions are exactly the same with one crucial difference.  You\nwill have to DELETE the line \"device=*vcd\" from the [386Enh] section\nof SYSTEM.INI.  This will interfere with running regular Windows Comm\napplications (such as Crosstalk), and you will get lots of dropped\ncharacters etc. in these applications.  This is therefore not\nrecommended.  ETHERSLIP would be loaded as:\n   ethersl -w 0x62 -h 4 0x03f8 57600\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\nConfiguring Windows 3.1:\n\na) Make the following modifications to the SYSTEM.INI file [386Enh]\n   section.\n   i) List all your COM ports, with their addresses and interrupts.\n       COM1Base=03F8\n       COM1Irq=4\n       COM2Base=02F8\n       COM2Irq=3\n       COM3Base=03E8\n       COM3Irq=5\n       This can also be done from within Windows - Control Panel,\n       but double-clicking on the \"Ports\" icon.\n   ii) Give the port to which your modem is attached a generous COM buffer\n       COM1Buffer=10000\n   iii) Change the COM port AutoAssign value for the COM port that you wish\n       to use for your modem to ZERO.  This is the amount of time that\n       Windows waits in seconds before handing control of that COM port to\n       another application.  If you use WinQVT\/net and then want to switch\n       from one session to another, and this value is at the default value\n       of 2 seconds, you are will get a GPF and Windows will crash.\n       COM1AutoAssign=0\n       This can also be done from within Windows - Control Panel.\n       Double-click on 386 Enhanced, and under \"Device Contention\", set\n       the device contention for the COM port your modem is on to\n       \"Never Warn\"\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\nAdditional notes:\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\nWhat to do if you are assigned a different IP address for each\nSLIP session?\n\nI am fortunate in that our campus SLIP server assigns each user\na permanent IP address, so I do not have worry about editing QVTNET.INI\neach time that I establish a SLIP connection.\n\nIf you are assigned a new IP address on every occasion that you dial in,\nplease try to use BOOTP aware software, and let BOOTP do the\nconfiguration for you.  However, QVTnet is not BOOTP aware and RARP\nwill not work over a SLIP connection.  To get QVTNet working in a\nsituation such as this, you must do the following:\n\nEdit the QVTNET.INI file.  Let the [net] section look like this:\n\n[net]\nname=\nip=\nnetmask=255.255.255.0 (or whatever is appropriate for you)\narptime=20\npacket_vector=60 (or whatever is appropriate)\n\nSave the changes, and then *write-protect* this file\n\"attrib +r qvtnet.ini\"\n\nStart your slip connection, and *remember* the name and IP address\nthat you are assigned.  Each time you start QVT\/net 3.1x, the\ngeneral configuration dialog box will open.  Enter the name and\nIP address and you were assigned for that session, click on [OK],\nand you should be up and running.  The changes you make will not\nbe saved, as QVTNET.INI is write-protected.\n\nA more elegant solution to the problem of dynamic SLIP IP address\nassignment is provided by Victor Menayang (victor@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu)\nVictor uses the program bootpq to semi-automate qvtnet preparation.\nBootpq is used to inquire the assigned IP, which is then saved to a\nfile called \"myip\".  Another file \"noip\" is essentially a complete\nQVTNET.INI file that lacks the IP address.  In the final step \"myip\"\nand \"noip\" are copied into a single QVTNET.INI file.  An example of\nVictor's batch file is provided below:\n=====================================================\nslipper com2\npktint.com\nbootpq -i \"ip=\\\"%%s\\\"\"  >> myip\nbootpq -i \"My IP# is: %s\"\ncopy \/q net + myip + noip e:\\com\\qvtnet\\qvtnet.ini\ndel \/q myip\n@echo off\necho .\necho Ready to run WinQVTnet\n=====================================================\nFor questions and more details about bootpq, please contact Victor\nMenayang (victor@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu)\n\nQPC Software is attempting to add BOOTP capability to WinQVT\/net.\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\nHow do you use PKTMUX over SLIP?\n\nPKTMUX will not work over the SLIP8250.COM packet driver, and crashes\nimmediately if used with ETHERSL.COM\n\nPKTMUX will work with C\/SLIPPER.EXE, when C\/SLIPPER is used in ethernet\nsimulation mode.  An example of this configuration is shown below:\n\nThe latest release of PKTMUX is 1.2c; and it is important that you\nuse this version, if you want to use virtual packet drivers with\napplications like Trumpet for Windows (to be released very shortly).\n\n[from AUTOEXEC.BAT]\n\nlh c\/slipper com1 vec=65 baud=57600 ether         (packet driver)\nlh pktmux 5 65 \/5       (pktmux loaded for 5 virtual packet drivers)\nlh pktdrv 7f 65         (first virtual packet driver used for QVT\/net)\nlh pktint.com           (QVT\/net pktint.com)\npktdrv 63 65            (PKTDRV for use in native DOS or WinTrumpet)\n\nAdditional virtual packet drivers can be loaded directly from within\nWindows 3.1 DOS boxes.  For example, my PIF file to load POPmail is\ndirected to the file \"popmail.bat\".  This is what popmail.bat reads\nlike:\n\npktdrv 60 65            loads a virtual packet driver at 0x60\ncd \\popmail\npopmail\ncd \\\npktdrv 60 \/u            unloads the packet driver at 0x60\nexit                    causes the DOS window to close\n\nI have similar batch files that load other DOS TCP\/IP applications\nlike PC Gopher.  It is my experience that PKTMUX works fine\neven if the virtual packet drivers in two independent virtual DOS\nsessions, are loaded at the same software interrupt.  For example\nwithin two different DOS boxes -- one for POPmail and the other for\nGopher, the virtual packet driver (pktdrv) is loaded at 0x60 in each\ninstance.\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\nHow much does PKTMUX degrade the performance of C\/SLIPPER?\n\nI have a V.32bis\/V.42bis modem in a 386-33 running Windows 3.1 with\na reasonably fast video card (ATI Graphics Ultra).  Under these\nconditions, when I have three virtual packet drivers loaded and\nbeing used as follows:\na) Driver at 0x7f -- QVTNet FTP client session\nb) Driver at 0x60 in one DOS Window -- CUTCP tn3270 session\nc) Driver at 0x60 in another DOS Window -- Trumpet for DOS\n\nI get FTP transfer rates of 0.8 - 1.0 kb\/sec while transferring\ncompressed files.  This rate is comparable to that which I get with\nSLIP8250 loaded as a packet driver, and where a single TCP\/IP session\nis active.  If CSLIPPER is used a packet driver and a single session\nis active, I get transfer rates of 1.3 - 1.4 kb\/sec on the same\nfiles.\n\nWhile there is about 40% degradation in the performance of SLIPPER,\nfor me the benefits of being able to use PKTMUX outweigh the\nperformance hit.\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\nC\/SLIPPER and ethernet simulation mode\n\nIn ethernet simulation mode, C\/SLIPPER ver 1.3 works with all the\napplications that I have tested it with.  One or two applications\nthat required ethernet simulation balked at C\/SLIPPER 1.2, but even\nthese rare problems have been resolved with ver 1.3\n\nWhen SLIPPER is used in ethernet simulation mode, and used with PKTMUX,\nI get some an error message in the QVTNet Console window that reads\n\"IP:incorrect packet type\" or \"IP:bad version number\".  This does not\nseem to prevent QVTnet from functioning, although I cannot comment on\nloss of performance.\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\nWhat can you do if your DOS TCP\/IP application does not work with\nC\/SLIPPER in ethernet simulation mode?\n\nIn the rare event that you find a package that does not work with\nC\/SLIPPER in ethernet simulation mode, first contact the author --\nPeter Tattam -- PETER@psychnet.psychol.utas.edu.au, and let him\nknow.  Chances are that he can fix it.\n\nIn the meanwhile, you can try the following.  I do not know if it is\nkosher, but it worked when I had problems with C\/SLIPPER ver 1.2\n\n(C\/SLIPPER is loaded at 0x62 as described above under the PKTMUX section)\n\nI load ETHERSL.COM at 0x60, run the application and then terminate\nETHERSL.COM\n\nThis also works within Windows 3.1 virtual DOS boxes.  However a\npacket driver like ETHERSL can be used in only one virtual DOS box\nat a time.\n\nSo for example, here is my batch file to run Grateful Med (a\nmedical reference retrieval program developed at the National Library\nof Medicine).\n\nethersl -w 0x60 -h 4 0x03f8 57600       loads ETHERSLIP\ncd \\gm6\nsearch\ncd \\\ntermin 0x60                             terminates ETHERSLIP\nexit            closes the DOS box and returns me to Windows\n\nIf you use this method, be cautious about one thing -- don't have\nany active PKTMUX DOS sessions open at the same time.  After closing\nthe ETHERSL window, you can run your PKTMUX DOS sessions with no\nproblem.  BTW, the example above -- Grateful Med, works with no\nproblems with C\/SLIPPER ver 1.3\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\nPHONE Script Files:\n\nThe documentation that accompany PHONE, provide good instructions on\nwriting script files to get PHONE to dial SLIP servers other than\nthe University of Minnesota server.  For example here is a script\nthat I use to dial a CISCO server at the University that I attend.\n\nBackground:  To start a SLIP connection, I dial our terminal server,\nand login with a username and password.  After doing so, I start a SLIP\nsession with the following command \"slip username-slip.dialin.cwru.edu\",\nfollowed by my password -- again.\n\nHere then is the relevant portion of the PHONE.CMD script file -\n#\n# CWRU-TS2 SLIP login script by Ashok Aiyar 3\/26\/93\n# Last revised 3\/28\/93\nProcedure    Host.CWRU.Login\nTimeOut 60      'CWRU-TS2 terminal server is not responding'\nMessage         \"CWRU-TS2 SLIP login script -- Version 1.1\"\nMessage         'Waiting for SLIP server to respond'\nQuiet ON\nExpect 'Verification'\nMessage         'Request for User Verification Received from CWRU-TS2'\nMessage         'Sending your user name and password'\nQuiet OFF\nExpect   'Username:'\nSend '%u<'\nExpect   'Password:'\nPrivate\nSend '%p<'\nReject    'Access denied'   'Your user name or password was not accepted'\nTimeOut 30    'SLIP server did not respond to your validation request'\nExpect 'CWRU-TS2>'\nSend 'SLIP<'\nTimeOut 10    'SLIP server did not respond to SLIP command'\nExpect 'IP hostname or address:'\nSend '%u-slip.dialin.cwru.edu<'\nTimeOut 10 'SLIP server did not respond to hostname'\nReject    'Bad IP address'   'Incorrect Hostname'\nExpect 'Password:'\nSend '%p<'\nReject    'Access denied'    'Password not accepted.'\nTimeOut 10\nExpect 'Header Compression will match your system'\nMessage 'Login to CWRU SLIP server successful'\nWait 1.0\nEndProcedure   Host.CWRU.Login\n#\n#\nProcedure      Host.CWRU.LogOut\n# Nothing special needs to be done to logout\nEndProcedure   Host.CWRU.LogOut\n#\n#   End of Script file\n#\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\nHow to use packet drivers other than UMSLIP with PHONE?\n\nThe quick answer -- there is no \"clean\" way.  Below is a batch file\nhack that I wrote to use PHONE with other packet drivers.  In this\nexample, the packet driver is Peter Tattam's CSLIPPER.  To use a\nbatch file like this, you must know the parameters with which you\nplan to use the packet driver -- i.e interrupt vector, baud rate,\nport address, and IRQ.  This batch file requires UMSLIP.COM,\nCSLIPPER.EXE, and TERMIN.COM to be in the same directory\nor in your path ...\n\nAll that the BATCH file does is to let you dial the SLIP connection\nusing PHONE, load the appropriate packet driver, hangup the\nconnection, and unload the driver when you are done ...\n\n-- being CWRUSLIP.BAT --\n@echo off\nrem   this batch file is an ugly hack of U. of Minn. \"SLIP.BAT\"\nrem   awaiting a version of C\/SLIPPER that can directly interact\nrem   with PHONE\nrem   CWRUSLIP.BAT file is used with PHONE.EXE to start a SLIP\nrem   connection on CWRU-TS2\nrem   last modified 3\/28\/93 -- Ashok Aiyar\n\n@echo off\ncls\ngoto start\n\n:start\nif %1. == ?.         goto help\nif %1. == help.      goto help\nif %1. == setup.     goto setup\nif %1. == dial.      goto forceD\nif %1. == hangup.    goto forceH\nif %1. == quit.      goto forceH\nif %1. == HELP.      goto help\nif %1. == SETUP.     goto setup\nif %1. == DIAL.      goto forceD\nif %1. == QUIT.      goto forceH\ngoto bogus\ngoto unload\n\n:forceH\ntermin 0x60\numslip >nul\nphone force hangup\ngoto unload\n\n:slipper\ntermin 0x60\nREM  the following line must be changed to reflect the COM port,\nREM  IRQ, baud rate, and software interrupt\nlh c:\\packet\\cslipper com1 vec=60 baud=57600 ether\ngoto end\n\n:forceD\ntermin 0x60\numslip >nul\nphone force dial\ngoto slipper\n\n:setup\ntermin 0x60\numslip >nul\nphone setup\ngoto help\n\n:unload\ntermin 0x60\ngoto end\n\n:bogus\necho %1 is not a valid command.\necho Try \"cwruslip help\" for a list of valid commands\necho.\n\n:help\necho --------------------------------------------------------------\necho           Case Western Reserve University SLIP Setup\necho                  using Univ. of Minnesota PHONE\necho --------------------------------------------------------------\necho cwruslip setup     modem settings, phone number, username etc.\necho.\necho cwruslip dial      DIAL and establish the SLIP connection\necho cwruslip quit      HANGUP the phone and unload the driver\necho cwruslip help      this screen\necho.\n\n:end\n-- end CWRUSLIP.BAT --\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\nWhere to Get What.....\n\nPeter Tattam's programs are archived at ftp.utas.edu.au (C\/SLIPPER,\nand the Trumpet set of programs).\n\nWinQVT\/net is generally archived at most Windows FTP sites,\nincluding ftp.cica.indiana.edu\n\nNCSA Telnet is archived at ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu\n\nNuPOP is archived at ftp.acns.nwu.edu\n\nPOPmail\/PC, SLIPDISK, PHONE, and PC Gopher are archived at\nboombox.micro.umn.edu\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\n-- end SLIP.TXT --\n\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"From article <1993Apr26.110250.5243@nmt.edu>, by erickson@azure.nmt.edu (Alan Erickson):","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"This is not an unusual practice if the doctor is also a\nmember of a nudist colony.\n\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"(in answer to Amruth Laxman\n\n\nApart from the fact that you get G in the pull-out, not the dive, that\nfigure is about right for sustained G, no protection.\nThe duration of G, it's rate of onset, body position and support aids are\nall critical parts of the equation. I remember one note about instrumented\ngridiron players recording peaks about 200G. Stapp, the aviation doctor,\neither by accident or design, took a short-period 80G in a rocket-sled\ndecelleration, eye-balls-out against a standard (1950's) harness. It had\nto be short, calculate the stopping time, even from 500 - 600mph at that\nG. A bang-seat can get up to about 60 G, and you'd better be sitting\nstraight. Find the book by Martin-Bakers human guinea pig to hear how bad\nit can get if the rate of onset is too high. A reclining position and a\ngood G-suit can keep a pilot functioning at around 12G.\n\nA flotation tank should be a good bet, since you can treat the body as a\nfluid, and high-pressure situations are not new. Anyone have any figures?","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nI have this same alarm installed in my Syclone.  It works great.  The shock\nsensor is very sensitive, but much more practical than the motion sensor I have\non my other car.  It doesn't trigger if the car is rocked gently by the wind,\nbut any kind of shock sets it off.  Even kicking the tire sets it off.  It\nworks great.\n\n\nThe shock sensor is adjustable and there are two cycles on it.  You can adjust\nit to be sensitive enough that there is no way you could open the hood without\nsetting off the alarm.  Although, I know that you cannot pop the hood on the\nSyclone without setting off my alarm now, and yet I have had zero (none!) false\nalarms with this system.  The alarm tells you when you disarm it whether it has\nbeen activated in your absence.  I have been able to trace every alarm to it's\ncause and it was not a false alarm.\nI guess it would be possible depending on the vehicle.  My Syclone is so tight\nin the engine compartment that it would be tough to do this.  There are\nsupplemental power supplies you can put on with this Viper alarm, but I don't\nhave one.  I really think that if someone wants my car that bad, the alarm\nwon't keep them from it, even with a supplemental power supply.\n\nThis is primarily for convertibles.  I have a convertible and have looked at\nthis feature in detail.  Alpine actually makes a better radar unit if you want\nto get one of these.  It has zones in it that can be shut down independently so\nthat if one side of your car has pedestrian traffic or something else that\nwould trigger an alarm, it shuts down the zone, or rather, pulls it in tighter.\nI don't see the real benefit to these unless you have a convertible that you\nleave the top down on.\n\nAvoid the voice alarm that can be added to the radar package.  It talks to\npeople as they walk by.  I saw one installed on a Lotus Esprit.  The kids would\ntaunt it seeing how close they could get before it 'warned' them to get back. \nThe owner finally disabled it, which defeats the purpose in my mind.\nI am real happy with my Viper.  One other feature I really like is you can tune\nit to your preferences.  You can have it arm passively or not.  You can disable\nthe chirp for arming\/disarming.  You can have it lock\/unlock the doors when the\nalarm is armed\/disarmed.  \n\nI like these features.  I hate the chirp when the alarm arms\/disarms, so mine\nflashes the lights only.  I like the door lock feature, although I have to be\ncareful to take my keys with me because it doesn't know if you have left your\nkeys in the car when it passively arms and locks the doors.  But, if you are\nmeticulous about taking your keys with you, it takes care of the rest.\n\nI looked seriously at the Alpine system too.  It is a real nice system, but\nmore money and it has a motion sensor standard instead of the shock sensor. \nThe shock sensor is better....and the Viper shock sensor is better (2 cycle)\nthan the optional Alpine one, IMHO.  I think the Viper gives you a lot of good\nvalue for the money.  But it isn't absolutely tamperproof.  No system is. \nExcept maybe the one that James Bond had on his Lotus in For Your Eyes Only. \nAnyone know where we can get one of those installed?  Maybe that was what they\nhad in the van in the World Trade Center, huh?>\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nThere are two different mechanisms here:  toning of muscles and reduction of\nfat.  Exercises specific to particular muscles will tone only those muscles\nexercised (example: look at differences in arm circumferences between pitching\narms and non-pitching arms in major league pitchers).  However, if exercise\nalso leads to reduction of body fat, the loss of body fat will be equally\ndistributed over the entire body.  There is no way to \"spot reduce\" body fat\nother than surgically, through liposuction. Distribution of body fat is\ngenetically determined.  Sometimes a very flabby muscle will look like \"fat\",\nso when that muscle gains some muscle tone it may *appear* as though the \"fat\"\nis \"changing\" into \"muscle\", but really fat and muscle tissues are totally\nseparate, and one does not ever \"change into\" the other.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n:Lighter fluid is butane.  It's absolutely non-toxic but is an extreme fire\n         ^^^^^    ^^^^^^        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n:hazard.  You definately don't want to go splashing this stuff around.\n:(Use a little on an old rag.)\n\nButane : \"A colourless flammable gaseous alkane...\"\n\nNon-toxic? It has some effects when you inhale, allegedly, which can't all be down\nto asphyxia (IMHO).\n\n\n\n\n---","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Does anyone have a manual for an Artec 14\" NI monitor?  I need the\nspecs.  Thanks.\n\nRob Malouf\nmalouf@csli.stanford.edu\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"rh> From: house@helios.usq.EDU.AU (ron house)\nrh> Newsgroups: alt.atheism\nrh> Organization: University of Southern Queensland\n\n\n\nrh> I _know_ I shouldn't get involved, but...   :-)\n\nrh> [bit deleted]\n\n[rest of rant deleted]\n\nThis is a standard argument for fundies.  Can you spot the falicy? The\nstatement is arguing from the assumption that Jesus actually existed.  So far,\nthey have not been able to offer real proof of that existance.  Most of them\ntry it using the (very) flawed writings of Josh McDowell and others to prove\nit, but those writers use VERY flawed sources.  (If they are real sources at\nall, some are not.)  When will they ever learn to do real research, instead of\nbelieving the drivel sold in the Christian bookstores.\n\nrh> Righto, DAN, try this one with your Cornflakes...\n\nrh> The book says that Muhammad was either a liar, or he was\nrh> crazy ( a  modern day Mad Mahdi) or he was actually who he\nrh> said he was. Some reasons why he wouldn't be a liar are as\nrh> follows.  Who would  die for a lie?  Wouldn't people be able\nrh> to tell if he was a liar?  People  gathered around him and\nrh> kept doing it, many gathered from hearing or seeing  how his\nrh> son-in-law made the sun stand still.  Call me a fool, but I\nrh> believe  he did make the sun stand still.  \nrh> Niether was he a lunatic.  Would more than an entire nation\nrh> be drawn  to someone who was crazy.  Very doubtful, in fact\nrh> rediculous.  For example  anyone who is drawn to the Mad\nrh> Mahdi is obviously a fool, logical people see  this right\nrh> away.\nrh> Therefore since he wasn't a liar or a lunatic, he must have\nrh> been the  real thing.  \n\nNice rebutal!","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"[ Article crossposted from sdnet.forsale,rec.motocycle ]\n[ Author was Michael James ]\n[ Posted on 21 Apr 1993 15:39:50 GMT ]\n\n\nI must sell my motorcycle...:(  it is a '83 GR650, Tempter.\nIt has 20K miles and runs well.  \nIncludes a cover and tank bag..\n\nI'm asking $700 for it all. \n\nE-mail me if you want to take a look at it.\n\n--\n********************************************************************************  Michael James                   james@mintaka.sdsu.edu         \n  PA-128\t\t\t  \t594-2469 \n  \t\t\t\t\t294-9845(H)\t\n********************************************************************************\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Greets,\n \nI have an IC I need help in identifying.  It is an 8-pin IC with the following\nlabel:  W03563  9144w4  \n \nANY help would be greatly appreciated in identifying this chip.  \n \nKevin\n\n\n~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\nKevin Jones                                   KPJONE01@ULKYVX.CT.LOUISVILLE.EDU\nLab Supervisor                                KPJONE01@ULKYVX.LOUISVILLE.EDU\nComputing and Telecommunications              PHONE:  502-588-6303\nUniversity of Louisville, KY                  FAX:    502-588-0150","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Here's a few two-sport star trivia questions.  I'll admit they're not\ntoo difficult, but a bit challenging nevertheless.\n\nMail me your answers please; or post them.\n\n\n1.  Which pitcher played for the Harlem Globetrotters?\n\n2.  Which major leaguer briefly tried professional golf in 1978?\n\n3.  Which does Dieon Sanders have more of (professionally):\n    career touchdowns or triples?\n\n4.  Has there been any player of both pro hockey and baseball?\n    If so, name him and the years he played each.\n\n\nIf you have any other two-sport star tidbits, feel free to include them.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nShareware is available from the net, magazines, distributors, clubs,\nfriends, and bulletin boards. I don't think people have any problems\ngetting hold of it.\n\nFill gaps in Dos? There's no need for many people - Dos 5 provides\nmore services than I need as it is. I just run Windows on top of it.\n\nBTW, my Windows must be an operating system - it provides a Disk\nOperating System that Dos can't access. (NFS...) :-)\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nI do not think they can use the eavesdropping as evidence at all. However,\nusing the info they gather while listening, they can go searching THE right\nplace and find good, strong evidence, which they can use in court. \n\nQuestion : currently, it is easy to wire-tap, from the technical point of\nview, at least. Anybody using the appropriate radio receiver can listen\nto communications between a car-telephone and the ground station. The police\nalso, obviously. The clipper chip will make it much more difficult for the\nnon-authorized person to eavesdrop (note that I DO NOT write << impossible>> ).\nThe privacy will thus improve from the current situation. Poeple who REALLY\nhave something to hide already DO NOT use the phone to speak of these things.\nIf an illegal operation is really worth, one can afford having critical data\ncarried by a person rather than sending it electronically. \nThe clipper chip will not change this. \n\nThe problem is more politic. Foreign countries will never accept the clipper\nchip is the access to the escrow cannot be directly granted to their own\npolice following their OWN law, not the US law. i.e. each country will have\nits own escrow. How then will it be possible to monitor the international\ntraffic? or, will encrypted international traffic be possible ? or will there\nbe an international escrow, some kind of U.N. thing ?\n\nForbidding crypted communication is impractical: how is it possible to spot\na crypted communication in the thousands of megabytes of data which circulate\non the various existing networks. What about private networks ? And this will\nbe more and more impossible as the volume of electronic traffic will increrase\nin the next years.\n\nI think that the clipper chip can only be an interesting device to limit the\nrisk of , for instance, one's girlfriend's husband listening to his wife's\ncommunications. It will bring no more as regards to security. Is it worth ?\nI think so if its cost is limited, I think that many privacy invasions are done\nnot only by official services, but also by private entities. The clipper can\nhelp reducing these. Provided we do not hope too much of it, it is not a real\ndanger and it can be helpful.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"<KIME.93Apr20133127@mongoose.torolab.ibm.com> <mjones.735335684@fenway>\nOrganization: Eskimo North (206) 367-3837 {eskimo.com}\n\n\nYeah, Morris just knows how to win. That's why he lost 18 for Detroit in\n1990. Funny how he wins a lot of games when he pitches on good teams but\nloses a lot when he pitches on bad ones. And if \"rings\" was the only\ncriteria for success, then teams would always tend to repeat, and\neventually you'd have the same team win the WS every bleepin' year. Sort\nof like the yanks in the 50s.\n\nMorris is a decent pitcher on the downside of a good, not great, career.\nToronto will finish 3rd or 4th this year, with Morris and all those\nrings, because their pitching staff was destroyed over the off-season.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nOK. Lets look into this.\nAccording to my dictionary,\nZi-on-ism: an international movement orig. for the establishment of a Jewish\nnational or religious community in Palestine and later for the support of\nmodern Israel.\n\nNow, I do not support the establishment of nations based on religious \nprinciples, while I support the establishment of nations based on cultural\nidentities.\n\nSo. Here are some questions I have to ask for anyone to answer. My point\nis what someone said long time ago: In politics, like with men, it is important\nto distiguish between what they say they do and what they are actually\ndoing.\n\n1) My mother is Jewish (and so is my father). If I apply for the Law of\nReturn, do I get in as a Jew trying to return to his land, from which my\nfamily was expelled about 2000 years ago?\n2) If I go back, which nationality would my ID show?\n3) If I decided to go back to the land from which my relatives had been \nexpelled 2000 years ago, but first I convert to any other religion, can I \napply to the law of Return as a member of the Jewish Nation or should I \napply as someone whose mother is Jewish?\n4) Which nationality would show my ID in case 3)?\n5) What has change in me between the day before and the day after I converted\nto loose my being part of the Jewish Nation?\n6) Suppose I want to get married to my current wife, who is non-Jewish in\nIsrael, how do I do it?\n7) How would my situation change if I decided, after going back to\nIsrael, to convert to Islam?\n\n\nNow, here is one more question. I do believe that most people in a country\ndo not care about politics. They just want to be left alone.\nSuppose my father is Arab. Suppose he was born in Palestine, in some place \nwhich now is part of Israel. Suppose that his father, and his grandfather as\nwell as 20 or 30 generations before him were born in that place.\nNow suppose there is a war of independence and my father, scared by all the\nfighting going on, tries to take his family to a place more secure, among \npeople he knows, who speak a language he understands, who worship the same\ngod. Now, suppose that that place is some other Arab country. \nAnd, now suppose that the war is over and that there is a new country created\nwhere my father used to live, and that that country is called Israel.\nAnd, that in that country, Jews from all over the world are received. And\nthat people whose family left thet country 200 generation ago are recieved and\ngranted full-citizenship.\nShould I, if I decided to go back to my father's land, where he was born as\n20 or 30 generations of my family were born, have the right to go back and\nask to be recognized in the same way those who are returning after 2000\nyears?\n\nThen, finally, people ask me how I would define a Jew, but that is irrelevant.\nI am not talking about how I would define a Jew, but about how people in \nZionist organizations, and more important, in Israel, define a Jew.\nHow would those who are Zionist define a Jew? \n\n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nlet me clarify, i think they both are 2.0 litres.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n: [... SQUIDS ...]\n\n: I felt embarassed at this point to be a motorcyclist. I felt the eyes of those\n: in cages, witnessing this display, then glancing over to the dealers lot and\n: damning all those on two wheels. Needless to say, my friend felt a little\n: uncomfortable and we left. \n\nDid you express your embarrassment to the owner?  I don't blame you for being\nembarrassed, but I would have let my feeling be known that the behaviour of \ntheir sales staff and apparent enjoyment of such behaviour just cost them \na sale and all further sales.\n\n: I will now turn off my frustration and go ride... peacefully, to clear my\n: anger. I only hope that the cop who is following me home, has an open\n: mind and doesn't associate me with them. \n\nSound good.  Enjoy.\n\n: BTW, I can't afford a new bike.....\n\nWho can?","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I need help finding XCMDs to control a CD-ROM drive\nfrom Aldus Supercard 1.6.  The Apple Hypercard CD-ROM\nToolkit does not work. Aldus has no clue. Apple has no clue.\nBerkeley MUG and Boston MUG won't return any phone calls.\nMy local user group has no idea. HELP!\nCommercial or shareware is fine...\nPlease reply by email: clee@theporch.raider.net\nTHANKS!\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nLook out... We have the beginnings of a donnybrook between one of them\nliberal, artsy-fartsy western schools and an ossified, establishment \neastern university. :-)\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":" \n\n...in other words faith in a .357 is far stronger than faith in a \nGod providing a miracle for his followers. Interesting. Now, if \nDavid Korresh was God, why couldn't he use lightning instead of \nsemi-automatic rifles? It seems even he didn't trust in himself.\n\nCheers,\nKent","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nIf a manual transmission is a \"must have\", then the M-B 300TE is not in\nthe running.  You cannot get a manual transmission in that car in North\nAmerica.  It seems that buyers here (or, maybe more accurately, the\ndistributors) are not interested in manual trannies.\n\nThe '93 300 line comes with a 217 hp engine.  All earlier years are 177 hp.\nI have an '87 300E, with a \"mere\" 177 hp and auto tranny, and I find that\nit has sufficient power for any normal driving situation.  More is always\nnice, but I can't complain.\n\nI test drove a Saab 900 CSE last fall.  Here are my impressions:\n\n1) Awesome power, especially over 3500rpm, when the turbo really comes on.\n2) If you get on the power really hard in a tight corner, the front-wheel\n   drive causes it to understeer heavily, and then viciously \"hook\" into\n   the corner.  Not a desirable handling trait, but common in powerful\n   front drive cars.  (The CSE is 200hp.  Mercedes is rear-drive, so it\n   does not have this problem.)\n3) Huge interior and cargo space.\n4) The most \"rubbery\" shifter I have ever encountered.  I drove a 5spd.  It\n   was absolutely numb.  You might be able to get used to it - I don't know.\n   I also didn't like its location, which was too far down, and too far right.\n   From the shifter's position, I got the impression that Saab really designed\n   the car for an automatic.\n5) It was rather noisy:  Engine buzz, rattles, and creaks.  (Mercedes does\n   not exhibit these characteristics.)\n\nYou should also check out the new BMW 525 \"touring\".  This is a wagon version\nof the 525i.  It fits into the class with the 300TE and Saabs.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\t\t\t\t\t ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\n\tNah .... if MS Windows 3.1 were an operating system, so would be\nX-windows, motif, geoworks , desqview, the shareware Win-Boss C library\nand that what's-it's-name text-based windowing system written in Applesoft \nthat ran on the old-faithful Apple II ... [ note the similarity? all\nof the above rely on some underlying real OS  .... ]\n\n\tIMHO, they are windowing systems, and just that.  [ some are\ncooler than others though ... ]","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nI'm getting tired of these wimpy Liberals whining about gun control,\ntoo!  Ya know, the Second Amendment says\n\n\tA well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a\n\tfree State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms,\n\tshall not be infringed.\n\nNow, notice, it says *arms*.  Not guns.  Arms.\n\nThe Comsymp ZOG wants you to think that it is the only legitimate\npossessor of nuclear weapons.  Unconstitutional!  You and I have just\nas much right to a kilogram or two of nice weapons grade plutonium as\nany cruddy little pointy headed liberal Los Alamos pinkos.\n\nSupport your right to keep and bear short range nuclear weapons.  It's\na legitimate and challenging sport.\n\nAnd screw the limit.\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\tspl","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
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{"text":"Has anyone dealt with First Tech based in Austin Tx?  \nIf so, what has your experince been?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Andy Byler writes on the Biblical basis for the dogma of the\nImmaculate Conception:\n\n +  I will put enmity between you [the Serpent] and the woman, and\n + between your seed and her seed, she [can also be read he] shall\n + crush your head and you shall bruise her [or his] heel.\n + -Genesis 3.15\n\n +  He who commits sin is of the devil ...    -1 John 3.8\n\n +  Hail, full of grace [greek - kecharitomene], the Lord is with\n + thee ...    -Luke 1.28\n\nIn the Hebrew of Genesis 3:15, the gender is clearly masculine.\n\n + HE shall crush your head, and you shall bruise HIS heel.\n\nThe Latin has feminine forms, only by an accident of grammar.\n\nAndrew stated that KECHARITOMENE means not just \"full of grace\" but\n\"having a plenitude or perfection of grace.\" The word is used\nelsewhere in the New Testament only in Ephesians 1:6\n\n + Unto the praise of the glory of his grace, in which he hath\n + GRACED us in his beloved Son. (Rheims-Douay translation)\n\nI cannot find any indication in my dictionary that the verb implies\nanything as strong as Andrew suggests, nor does the Ephesians\npassage suggest that the verb means \"to preserve from any taint of\noriginal or actual sin from the first moment of existence.\" I should\nlike to see a comment on the meaning of the verb, preferably not\nfrom s writer who is discussing Luke 1:28 at the moment.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nI strongly disagree. I think most pirating is done by amateurs, who won't\ncopy the program if \"diskcopy\" can't do it.\nIf you're talking a 20% max goal of pirated copies, I bet that anything that\nwill beat diskcopy, and can't be easily copied from a hard drive, will\nsuffice.\nI hate hard copy manuals, and would rather have all docs online - *not*\nbecause I want to copy the program, but because its usually faster and\nand convenient than sifting through an old book I can't find.\n\nOff deeper end-> Why does everyone think they need to be able to make a \nbackup copy? Almost all new software must be installed to the hard disk,\nso you are left with the originals as your backups. I think its a waste\nof time, space, and money, as well as it makes it to tempting to \"lend\"\nout the backups. \n\n\nNo flames intended - just my thoughts.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I have the following busines books\/best sellers for sale.  All in excellent\norder.  If you are interested email me an offer...\n\n 1. Zapp: The Lightning of Empowerment..............William Pyham, Jeff Cox\n    Harmony Books\n\n 2. Beware the Naked Man Who Offers You His Shirt...Harvey Mackay\n    William, Morrow & Co\n\n 3. What They Still Don't Reach You at Harvard .....Mark H. McCormack\n    Bantam Books\n\n 4. Megatrends 2000: 10 New Directions for the 90's.John Nisbitt\/P. Aburdene\n    William, Morrow & Co\n\n 5. Phone Power....................................George Walther\n    Putnam Books\n\n 6. What Every Supervisor Should Know..............Liester R Bittel, J.Newstrom\n    McGraw-Hill\n\n 7. MaxiMarketing: New Directions in Advertising...Stan Rapps, Tom Collins\n    McGraw-Hill\n\n 8. Outsmarting The Competition....................John McGongale, Jr\n    Sourcebooks\n\n 9. Professional Speaking..........................Lilyan Wilder\n    Simon & Schuster\n\n10. Managing Management Time......................William Ocken Jr.\n    Prentice Hall\n\n11. Getting Praised Raised and Recognized........Muriel Solomon\n    Prentice Hall\n\n12. Getting What You Want: How to Reach Agreement..Kare Anderson\n    Dutton\n\n13. Let's Talk Quality..........................Philip B. Crosby\n    McGraw Hill\n\n14. Frontal Attack, Divide and Conquer.........Richard Buskirk\n    Wiley\n\n15. Den of Thieves...........................James B. Stewart\n    Simon & Schuster\n\n16. 20\/20 Vision..............................Stanley Davis, Bill Davidson\n    Fireside: Simon & Schuster\n\nIf you are intersted, email please.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I have uploaded the most recent Windows drivers for the Cirrus GD5426 \nchip based display cards to the uploads directory at ftp.cica.indiana.edu\n (file is 5426dr13.zip). They're very recent, I downloaded them from the \nCirrus BBS (570-226-2365) last night. If you are unable to get them there, \nemail me and maybe I can upload them to some other sites as well.  \nI have a local bus based card (VL24 Bitblaster from Micron) but I think \nthe drivers work with ISA cards (or at least includes drivers for them).\n\nI found the new drivers to be a significant improvement over the 1.2 version, \nimproving my graphic winmarks (v3.11) by about 2 million (7.77 to 9.88) \nalthough this could be the result of intentional benchmark cheating on \nCirrus's part but I don't think so.\n\nFrom Steve Gibson's (columnist for Info World) graphic card comparisons \n(also found at the cica ftp site under the name winadv.zip) I extracted the \nfollowing for the sake of comparison:\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\tWintach\n             \t\tWinbn3.11\tWord\tSprsht\tCad\tPaint\tOverall\nSteve's system:\n486\/33 VLB:\nATI Graphics Ultra Pro\t  9.33\t\t10.34\t 20.78\t8.28\t14.90\t 13.58\n\nmy system -\n486sx\/33 VLB:\nVL24 Bitblaster\t\t  9.88\t\t 8.65\t 11.71\t18.84\t15.40\t 13.65\n\n\nIts no Viper, but I think its a hell of a deal at about a third of the cost of \nthe ATI card and when compared to the other cards included in Gibson's review.\n\nMicron system owner's, I would be interested to hear your opinions on the \nDTC 2270VL local bus disk controller. My system came with a Maxtor 7120 \ndrive (120 MB) and at first was only giving me disk winmarks of about 16 Kb\/s, \nI am now at 22 Kb\/s. Is this about as good as it gets? I can't get a Norton's\nsysinfo disk reading because the contoller intercepts the calls, at \nleast that was what the program said.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"*****REVISED LIST**********\n\n\tI have the following Turbo Graphx 16 games for sale.  All have the cases and instructions.  I'm asking $10 a piece for the games and $3 for S&H (You pay the $3 for the first game only).  Please email replies to jth@bach.udel.edu\n\nAlien Crush\nWorld Class Baseball\nTakin' It To The Hoop\nPsychosis\nSidearms\nKeith Courage\nLegendary Axe\nLegendary Axe II\nSplatterHouse\nNinja Spirit\nTiger Road\nPower Golf\nWorld Sports Competition\nSpace Harrier\nSilent Debugers\nCyber-Core\nFinal lap Twin\nDevil's Crush\nKeith Courage\nGalaga 90' \nAline Crush\nVictory Run\nBlazing Lazers\n\n\n\tI have the following TG-16 CD-ROM Games forsale. I'm asking $20 each and $3 S&H for the first game.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I have a few questions about the TAX on  a used car purchase.\nI live in New York State, and I am going to buy a used car.\nI know that I will have to pay tax when I go to register the car.\nBut I would like to know of tax is payed on the book value of the car, or\non the purchase price.  Also, what tax rate is used ?  The owner lives in\nAlbany (8% tax), and I will be living in Saratoga with 7% tax.  \nDo I pay Albany tax or Saratoga tax ?  (the difference is a whole $50)\nOne more thing, how much does it cost for the usual 2 year registration ?\n\nDid I leave anything out ? What else might I have to know to purchase and\nregister a used car ?  (I've never done this before.)","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nCam,\n\nSeveral months ago I bought a 4\/40 PB100 with external floppy, AppleTalk\nRemote Access, a Kensington case and AC adapter with complete documentation\nand in almost new condition, used for US$900. I considered it a very good\nbuy and am very *cosy* with my little baby now... :-)\n\nMurray\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nSome more references:\n\nS.H. Dole\n\n\"Habitable Planets for Man\"\nBlaisdell Publishing Company, New York (1964)\n\nI don't know if this can be found any more.\n\nM.J. Fogg\n\n\"Extra-Solar Planetary Systems: A Microcomputer Simulation\"\nJ. Brit. Interplanetary. Soc., _38_, 501-514, (1985)\n\n\"An Estimate of the Prevalence of Biocompatible and Habitable Planets\"\nJ. Brit. Interplanetary. Soc., _45_, 3-12, (1992)\n\nThe first paper includes a detailed discussion of the physical conditions\nfor habitability.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"To Rob and all others that have been debating about the wood stove.\n   The original post claimed that the ATF\/FBI was pumping napalm into the \nbuilding with the hopes that the wood stove inside would ignite it.  I responed\nwith why would the wood stove be lit in the first place?  It wouldn't be lit \nfor heating purposes because of the weather in Texas.  Everyone now claims \nthat it was for cooking.  Stop and think about this.  CS gas was being pumped\ninto the building and I presume that everyone was wearing gas masks (either\nbought or some type of makeshift type) and this had been going on for 6 hours.\nI don't know if you have ever been around CS, but I have.  Being exposed to CS\ngas was part of my Army training, so I know that without a mask it VERY \nuncomfortable and makes your eyes water, nose run, and makes you sick in \nthe stomach.  And with the mask it is very difficult to drink water much less \neat.  So my question now is \"why were they cooking food?\"\n   I will buy that a lantern could have been knocked over and caused the fire.\nBut that stove was not being used for cooking (unless they were even more\ncrazy than the ATF\/FBI claim).","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Wanted\n\nAn LCD Overhead Monitor for my school. (CGA)\nLooking for one in fairly good shape but the school  doesn't have alot\nof money to spend.  If you have one or know of one for sale please\nE-mail me.\n\nThanks,\n\n  Jonathan","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\tNot really. I think it is less than 10%.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I have for sale teh USWEST SearchDisc CDROM Phone Directory.  This has\nthe names, phone number, address, business\/residence information for\nall regions covered by US West.  States includes Oregon, Washington,\nColorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, Utah, \nMinnesota, Nebraska, Iowa, North Dakota, and South Dakota.\n\nHave have two CDROM disks, one for June 1992, the other for Oct. 1992.\n\nIf you are interested, make an offer, thanks.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"since at least one other person was interested in this:\n\nmy FZR's black exhaust pipes are rusty and i researched getting them repaired.\nyesterday i bought a can of VHT 1500 degree black header paint and spent an\nhour sanding two of the header pipes by hand.  sprayed on paint.  thought\nabout how clean i was able to get the metal with sanding and determined that\ni wouldn't be at all suprised if the paint wore\/chipped off in a month.\n\nsoooo call a couple of places up in minneapolis and discover that powder\ncoating, while extremely durable, will not handle over ~600 degree\ntemperatures.  the place i talked to said they were experimenting with\nsome new powder that is supposed to handle 1100 degrees but that it wouldn't\nbe available for months at least.  they directed me to another shop that\nspecializes in header coating.\n\nthe other shop said they have 2 coatings available.  one is aluminized that\ncan do 1200+ degrees and is \"comparable\" to powder coating for durability.\nthe other is silicon (i think) based and can do 1800+ degrees (!) but is\nthinner and not as durable.  both coatings have a textured finish (not\nsuper smooth) and should be cleaned with hot water and a brush.\n\nprice for 4 1-foot header pipes and a 2-foot 4-2-1 collector was ~$100.  i'm\nplanning to take the parts up friday and get them back (UPS) next week maybe\nwednesday.\n\nsounds to me like this kind of coating stuff should be way better than paint\nconsidering how much abuse the pipes get from road crap\/rocks.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nYeah, they finally came to agreement on a contract. As soon as the ink was\ndry, he suddenly decided Kansas City was a neat place to be. (ergo, the\n\"want to play for the national team\" was a bargaining chip).\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"This is normal behavior for these drives (and many other models). The drive\nis doing a recalibration -- adjusting for temperature changes. If you leave\nthe machine on the frequency of the recalibrations goes way down.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n   >  This is actually the law that David Irving\n   > will hopefully be found guilty under due to his denial of the Holocaust.\n   > It's too bad that this useless \"Centre for Policy Research\" isn't in Canada.\n   > It'd set a nice precedent to how the law applies in Cyberspace.\n   > \n   >   Steve\n\n\t   Well canada is wrong. If it was in the US the ACLU would have\n   made sure that such repressive laws are found unconstitutional.\n   Do you think the Church didn't find Galileo's perception of the\n   universe offensive.\n\n\nBull shit. There is no reason in the world why we can't say that\ntaking views analogous to the KKK's or some such organization is\nwrong. There is no reason why some morality may not be legislated. As\nit is we do not allow theft, or murder, or rape. Why should we allow\nhateful sppech whose only purpose is to stir anger and violence.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"GT> From: gary@concave.cs.wits.ac.za (Gary Taylor)\nGT> Hi, We are trying to develop a image reconstruction simulation for the skull\n\nYou could do high resolution CT (computed tomographic) scanning of\nthe skull.  Many CT scanners have an algorithm to do 3-D\nreconstructions in any plane you want.  If you did reconstructions\nevery 2 degrees or so in all planes, you could use the resultant\nimages to create user-controlled animation.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nSince your criminal grandparents ruthlessly exterminated more than\n600,000 Kurds between 1914 and 1916 in Eastern Anatolia. Referring to \nnotes from the personal diary of Russian General L. Odishe Liyetze on \nthe Turkish front, he wrote,\n\n\"On the nights 11-12 March, 1918 alone Armenian butchers \n bayoneted and axed to death 3000 Muslims in areas surrounding\n Erzincan. These barbars threw their victims into pits, most\n likely dug according to their sinister plans to extinguish \n Muslims, in groups of 80. My adjutant counted and unearthed\n 200 such pits. This is an act against our world of civilization.\"\n\nOn March 12, 1918 Lieut-colonel Griyaznof wrote (from an official\nRussian account of the Turkish genocide),\n\n\"Roads leading to villages were littered with bayoneted torsos,\n dismembered joints and carved out organs of Muslim peasants...\n alas! mainly of women and children.\"\n\nSource: Doc. Dr. Azmi Suslu, \"Russian View on the Atrocities Committed\n        by the Armenians Against the Turks,\" Ankara Universitesi, Ankara,\n        1987, pp. 45-53.\n        \"Document No: 77,\" Archive No: 1-2, Cabin No: 10, Drawer \n        No: 4, File No: 410, Section No: 1578, Contents No: 1-12, 1-18.\n        (Acting Commander of Erzurum and Deveboynu regions and Commander\n        of the Second Erzurum Artillery Regiment Prisoner of War,\n        Lieutenant Colonel Toverdodleyov)\n\n\"The things I have heard and seen during the two months, until the\n liberation of Erzurum by the Turks, have surpassed all the\n allegations concerning the vicious, degenerate characteristic of\n the Armenians. During the Russian occupation of Erzurum, no Armenian\n was permitted to approach the city and its environs.\n\n While the Commander of the First Army Corps, General Kaltiyin remained\n in power, troops including Armenian enlisted men, were not sent to the\n area. When the security measures were lifted, the Armenians began to \n attack Erzurum and its surroundings. Following the attacks came the\n plundering of the houses in the city and the villages and the murder\n of the owners of these houses...Plundering was widely committed by\n the soldiers. This plunder was mainly committed by Armenian soldiers\n who had remained in the rear during the war.\n\n One day, while passing through the streets on horseback, a group of\n soldiers including an Armenian soldier began to drag two old men of\n seventy years in a certain direction. The roads were covered with mud,\n and these people were dragging the two helpless Turks through the mud\n and dirt...\n\n It was understood later that all these were nothing but tricks and\n traps. The Turks who joined the gendarmarie soon changed their minds\n and withdrew. The reason was that most of the Turks who were on night\n patrol did not return, and no one knew what had happened to them. The \n Turks who had been sent outside the city for labour began to disappear\n also. Finally, the Court Martial which had been established for the\n trials of murderers and plunderers, began to liquidate itself for\n fear that they themselves would be punished. The incidents of murder\n and rape, which had decreased, began to occur more frequently.\n\n Sometime in January and February, a leading Turkish citizen Haci Bekir\n Efendi from Erzurum, was killed one night at his home. The Commander\n in Chief (Odiselidge) gave orders to find murderers within three days.\n The Commander in Chief has bitterly reminded the Armenian intellectuals\n that disobedience among the Armenian enlisted men had reached its\n highest point, that they had insulted and robbed the people and half\n of the Turks sent outside the city had not returned.\n\n ...We learnt the details this incident from the Commander-in-Chief,\n Odishelidge. They were as follows:\n\n The killings were organized by the doctors and the employers, and the\n act of killing was committed solely by the Armenian renegades...\n More than eight hundred unarmed and defenceless Turks have been\n killed in Erzincan. Large holes were dug and the defenceless \n Turks were slaughtered like animals next to the holes. Later, the\n murdered Turks were thrown into the holes. The Armenian who stood \n near the hole would say when the hole was filled with the corpses:\n 'Seventy dead bodies, well, this hole can take ten more.' Thus ten\n more Turks would be cut into pieces, thrown into the hole, and when\n the hole was full it would be covered over with soil.\n\n The Armenians responsible for the act of murdering would frequently\n fill a house with eighty Turks, and cut their heads off one by one.\n Following the Erzincan massacre, the Armenians began to withdraw\n towards Erzurum... The Armenian renegades among those who withdrew\n to Erzurum from Erzincan raided the Moslem villages on the road, and\n destroyed the entire population, together with the villages.\n\n During the transportation of the cannons, ammunition and the carriages\n that were outside the war area, certain people were hired among the \n Kurdish population to conduct the horse carriages. While the travellers\n were passing through Erzurum, the Armenians took advantage of the time\n when the Russian soldiers were in their dwellings and began to kill\n the Kurds they had hired. When the Russian soldiers heard the cries\n of the dying Kurds, they attempted to help them. However, the \n Armenians threatened the Russian soldiers by vowing that they would\n have the same fate if they intervened, and thus prevented them from\n acting. All these terrifying acts of slaughter were committed with\n hatred and loathing.\n\n Lieutenant Medivani from the Russian Army described an incident that\n he witnessed in Erzurum as follows: An Armenian had shot a Kurd. The\n Kurd fell down but did not die. The Armenian attempted to force the\n stick in his hand into the mouth of the dying Kurd. However, since\n the Kurd had firmly closed his jaws in his agony, the Armenian failed\n in his attempt. Having seen this, the Armenian ripped open the abdomen\n of the Kurd, disembowelled him, and finally killed him by stamping\n him with the iron heel of his boot.\n\n Odishelidge himself told us that all the Turks who could not escape\n from the village of Ilica were killed. Their heads had been cut off\n by axes. He also told us that he had seen thousands of murdered\n children. Lieutenant Colonel Gryaznov, who passed through the village\n of Ilica, three weeks after the massacre told us the following:\n\n There were thousands of dead bodies hacked to pieces, on the roads.\n Every Armenian who happened to pass through these roads, cursed and\n spat on the corpses. In the courtyard of a mosque which was about\n 25x30 meter square, dead bodies were piled to a height of 140 \n centimeters. Among these corpses were men and women of every age,\n children and old people. The women's bodies had obvious marks of\n rape. The genitals of many girls were filled with gun-powder.\n\n A few educated Armenian girls, who worked as telephone operators\n for the Armenian troops were called by Lieutenant Colonel Gryaznov\n to the courtyard of the mosque and he bitterly told them to be \n proud of what the Armenians had done. To the lieutenant colonel's\n disgusted amazement, the Armenian girls started to laugh and giggle,\n instead of being horrified. The lieutenant colonel had severely\n reprimanded those girls for their indecent behaviour. When he told\n the girls that the Armenians, including women, were generally more\n licentious than even the wildest animals, and that their indecent\n and shameful laughter was the most obvious evidence of their inhumanity\n and barbarity, before a scene that appalled even veteran soldiers,\n the Armenian girls finally remembered their sense of shame and\n claimed they had laughed because they were nervous.\n\n An Armenian contractor at the Alaca Communication zone command\n narrated the following incident which took place on February 20:\n\n The Armenians had nailed a Turkish women to the wall. They had cut\n out the women's heart and placed the heart on top of her head.\n The great massacre in Erzurum began on February 7... The enlisted men \n of the artillery division caught and stripped 270 people. Then they\n took these people into the bath to satisfy their lusts. 100 people\n among this group were able to save their lives as the result of\n my decisive attempts. The others, the Armenians claimed, were \n released when they learnt that I understood what was going on. \n Among those who organized this treacherous act was the envoy to the\n Armenian officers, Karagodaviev. Today, some Turks were murdered\n on the streets.\n\n On February 12, some Armenians have shot more than ten innocent\n Moslems. The Russian soldiers who attempted to save these people were\n threatened with death. Meanwhile I imprisoned an Armenian for\n murdering an innocent Turk. \n\n When an Armenian officer told an Armenian murderer that he would \n be hanged for his crime, the killer shouted furiously: 'How dare\n you hang an Armenian for killing a Turk?' In Erzurum, the \n Armenians burned down the Turkish market. On February 17, I heard\n that the entire population of Tepekoy village, situated within\n the artillery area, had been totally annihilated. On the same \n day when Antranik entered Erzurum, I reported the massacre to\n him, and asked him to track down the perpetrators of this horrible\n act. However no result was achieved.\n\n In the villages whose inhabitants had been massacred, there was a\n natural silence. On the night of 26\/27 February, the Armenians deceived\n the Russians, perpetrated a massacre and escaped for fear of the \n Turkish soldiers. Later, it was understood that this massacre had\n been based upon a method organized and planned in a circular. \n The population had been herded in a certain place and then killed\n one by one. The number of murders committed on that night reached\n three thousand. It was the Armenians who bragged to about the details\n of the massacre. The Armenians fighting against the Turkish soldiers\n were so few in number and so cowardly that they could not even\n withstand the Turkish soldiers who consisted of only five hundred\n people and two cannons, for one night, and ran away. The leading\n Armenians of the community could have prevented this massacre.\n However, the Armenian intellectuals had shared the same ideas with\n the renegades in this massacre, just as in all the others. The lower\n classes within the Armenian community have always obeyed the orders\n of the leading Armenian figures and commanders. \n\n I do not like to give the impression that all Armenian intellectuals\n were accessories to these murders. No, for there were people who\n opposed the Armenians for such actions, since they understood that\n it would yield no result. However, such people were only a minority.\n Furthermore, such people were considered as traitors to the Armenian\n cause. Some have seemingly opposed the Armenian murders but have\n supported the massacres secretly. Some, on the other hand, preferred\n to remain silent. There were certain others, who, when accused by\n the Russians of infamy, would say the following: 'You are Russians.\n You can never understand the Armenian cause.' The Armenians had a\n conscience. They would commit massacres and then would flee in fear\n of the Turkish soldiers.\n\n The incidents that occurred only recently clearly manifest the real\n nature of the Armenian ideology. Nothing which is already done can\n be undone.\"\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nI did it once with a biker-girlfriend in the\ncar, and she told me that I was stupid, the\nrider wouldn't know why I was waving.\n\n...She's long gone...\n\n\nOne.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I got this recipe from a watier on the greek island of samos.\nThey use it as a spread for bread there butit is excellent on\ngyro's as well. By the way, the actual name is tzatziki.\nHere is the recipe:\n\nyoghurt, chopped garlic, peeled chopped cucumber, salt, white\npepper, a little olive oil and a little vinegar.\n\nI would love to hear of any other good greek recipes out there.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nWhen will people learn!\n\nThe trouble is the ballast in the concrete and as every fool knows Ballast \nresistors are used to discharge batteries. Furthermore it is very silly to \nstore the battery with the terminals downwards as you must have done to \ncontact the ballast. \n\nSeriously: self discharge (the actual problem, as stated by others) does vary \ngreatly with certain types and freaks show low self discharge. I have in \nfact seen ordinary automotive batteries which have effectively held full \ncharge for > 2 years so it must be possible.\n\nIf your garage is heated, store the batteries somewhere cooler but above \nfreezing (flat batteries freeze more easily). Occasionally charge it (once a \nmonth?) or even leave it on 'float' charge permanently (special charger, \nDON'T do this unless you know what you are doing, seriously dangerous).\n\nAnouther point is the unsuitability of automotive batteries for things like \nelectric mowers -- they are not generally designed to be repeatedly deep \ndischarged and their life may be greatly shorted. Some early zero maintenance \nautomotive batteries in fact responded to a full discharge with total failure \nshortly afterwards but modern ones are superb. (6yrs, 95000 miles and \ncounting)","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"<come along since the Mazda MPV.  The NISSAN MAXIMA engine paired with\n<the rest of the vehicle seems well engineered.  Only the price is","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nYes, as a philosophy weak atheism is worthless.  This is true in\nexactly the same sense that as a philosophy Christians' disbelief in\nZeus is worthless.  Atheists construct their personal philosophies\nfrom many different sources, building non-god-based ideas in the same\nway as Christians build non-Zeus-based ideas of thunderbolts.\nAtheists no more *base* their philosophy on atheism than Christians\nbase theirs on the nonexistence of Zeus.\n\nThe \"weak atheist\" position is logically extremely assailable -- any\nlogical demonstration of the existence of a god completely destroys it\nas soon as the demonstration is made in the presence of a given weak\natheist.  Atheists in this newsgroup are barraged regularly with\nattempts to provide such a logical demonstration, and they all fail\nmiserably.  In fact, most of the people around here who claim the\n\"strong (as opposed to mathematical) atheist\" position do so on this\nbasis: not only do we not believe in a god, but also all the arguments\npresented in favor of particular gods have to date proven unsound;\ntherefore, one can say that those gods as argued by those arguments do\nnot exist.  This doesn't apply to such philosophers' gods as are\ndefined to be logically undemonstrable, but these are not the gods of\npopular religion, and the coherence of such claims is quite\nquestionable. ","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"continuing part #4 (I think); used by permission,\n\nTHE SOURCE AND NT MEANING\nOF ARSENOKOITAI, WITH IMPLICATIONS\nFOR CHRISTIAN ETHICS AND MINISTRY\n\n                                      James B. DeYoung\n\nW. Petersen\n\n     More recently Wright's understanding has itself been questioned from a\ndifferent direction.  In a brief 1986 study William Petersen found linguistic\nconfusion in using the English word \"homosexuals\" as the meaning of\narsenokoitai.[22]   He faulted Wright and English Bible translaions for\nrendering it by \"homosexuals\" in I Cor 6:9 and I Tim 1:10.\n\n     In a sense Petersen has coalesced Bailey, Boswell, and Scroggs into a\nsingle assertion that reiterates, in effect, the position of Bailey.  He finds\n\"homosexuals\" unacceptable as a translation because it is anachronistic.  \"A\nmajor disjunction\" exists between contemporary thought and terminology and the\nthought and terminolgy in Paul's time (187-88).\n\n      What is this \"disjunction\"?  He bases it on historical and linguistic\nfacts.  Accordingly, ancient Greek and Roman society treated male sexuality as\npolyvalent and characterized a person sexually only by his sexual acts. \nVirtually all forms of behavior, except transvestism, were acceptable. \nChristianity simply added the categories of \"natural\" and \"unnatural\" in\ndescribing these actions.  Ancient society know nothing of the categories of\n\"homosexuals\" and \"heterosexuals,\" and assumed that, in the words of Dover\nquoted approvingly by Petersen, \"everyone responds at different times to both\nhomosexual and to heterosexual stimuli. . .\" (188). [23]\n\n      In contrast to this, modern usage virtually limits the term \"homosexual\"\nto desire and propensity.  K.M. Benkert, who in 1869 coined the German term\nequivalent to \"homosexual,\" used it as referring to orientation, impluse or\naffectional preference and having \"nothing to do with sexual acts\" (189).\n\n     Petersen then proceeds to cite the \"Supplement to the Oxford English\nDictionary,\"  which defines \"homosexual\" only as a propensity or desire with no\nmention of acts.  Petersen's point is that by using \"homosexuals\" for\narsenokoitai, one wrongfully reads a modern concept back into early history\n\"where no equivalent concept existed\" (189).  Consequently the translation is\ninaccurate because it \"includes celibate homophiles,. . . . incorrectly exludes\nheterosexuals who engage in homosexual acts . . . [and]incorrectly includes\nfemale homosexuals\" (19=89).  Prior to 1869 there was no \"cognitive structure,\neither inour society or in antiquity, within which the modern bifurcation of\nhumanity into 'homosexuals' and 'hetersosexuals' made sence\" (189).\n\n     The foregoing clarifies why Petersen feels that the translatio\n\"homosexual\" is mistaken.  Yet is it possible that Petersen is the one\nmistaken, on both historical and linguistic or philological grounds?  The next\nphases of this paper will critically examine Petersen's position.\n\n                        THE JUSTIFICATION FOR TRANSLATING\n                          ARSENOKOITAI BY \"HOMOSEXUALS\"\n\nHistorical Grounds\n\n     A refutation of the foregoing opposition to the traslation of arsenokoitai\nby \"homosexuals\" begins with the historical and cultural evidence.  Since\nvirtually everyone acknowledges that the word does not appear before Paul's\nusage, no historical settings earlier than his are available.  Yet much writing\nreveals that ancient understanding of homosexuality prior to and contemporary\nwith Paul.  The goal is to discover wheither the ancient s conceived of\nhomosexuality, particularly homosexual orientation, in a way similar to\npresent-day concepts.  \n\n     Peterson, Bailey, Boswell, and Scroggs claim that the homosexual\ncondition, desire, propensity, or inversion -whatever it is called- cannot be\npart of the definition of the term.  They assert this either because the term\nis limited to acts of particular kind (Boswell, active male prostitutes; \nScroggs, pederasty) or because the homosexual condition was unknown in ancient\ntimes (Bailey; Petersen).  The following discussion will show why neither of\nthese positions is legitimate.  Attention will be devoted to the latter postion\nfirst with the former one being addressed below under \"Linguistic Grounds.\"\n\n     In regard to the latter position, one may rightfully ask, did not the\nhomosexual condition exist before 1869?  Is it only a modern phenomenon? Yet if\nit is universal, as alleged today, it must have existed always including\nancient times, even though there is lack of sophistication in discussing it. \nIndeed, evidence show that the ancients, pre-Christian and Christian, not only\nknew about the total spectrum of sexual behavior, including all forms of\nsame-sex activity (transvestism included), but also knoew about same-sex\norientation or condition.  Petersen admits (190 n. 10) that Plato in\n\"Symposium\" (189d-192d) may be a \"sole possible exception\" to ancient\ningnorance of this condition.  He discounts this, however, believing that even\nhere \"acts appear to be the deciding factor.\"  However, this is a very\nsignificant exception, hardly worthy of being called \"an exception,\" because of\nthe following additional evidence for a homosexual condition.\n\n     THe \"Symposium\" of Plato gives some of the strongest evidence for\nknowledge about the homosexual condition. [24]   Plato posits a third sex\ncomprised of a maile-female (androgynon (\"man-woman\"). Hence \"original nature\"\npalai physis, consisted of three kinds of human beings.  Zeus sliced these\nhuman beings in half, to weaken them so that they would not be a threat to the\ngods.  Consequently each person seeks his or her other half, either one of the\nopposite sex or one of the same sex.  Plato then quotes Aristophances:\n\n    Each of us, then, is but a tally of a man, since every one shows like\n    a flatfish the traces of having been sliced in two;  and each is ever\n    searching for the tally that will fit him.  All the men who are sections\n    of that composite sex that at first was called man-woman are \n    woman-courters;  our adulterers are mostly descended from that sex,\n    whence likewise are derived our mancourting women and adulteresses.\n    All the women who are sections of the woman have no great fancy for men:\n    they are incllined rather to women, and of this stock are the she-minions.\n    Men who are sections of the male pursue the masculine, and so long as \n    their boyhood lasts they show themselves to be sliced of the male by\n    making griends with men and delighting to lie with them and to be\n    clasped in men's embrasces;  these are the finest boys and striplings,\n    for they have the most manly nature.  Some say they are shameless\n    creatures, but falsely:  for their behavior is due not to shamelessness\n    but to daring, manliness, and virility, since they are quick to welcome\n    their like.  Sure evidence of this is the fact that on reaching maturity\n    these alone prove in a public career to be men.  So when they come\n    to man's estate they are boy-lovers, and have no natural interest in\n    wiving and getting children but only do these things under stress of\n    custom;  they are quite contented to live together unwedded all their days.\n    A man of this sort is at any rate born to be a lover of boys or the \n    willing mate of a man, eagerly greeting his own kind.  Well, when\n    one of them -whether he be a boy-lover or a lover of any other sort- \n    happens on his own particular half, the two of them are wondrously \n    thrilled with affection and intimacy and love, and are hardly to be \n    induced to leave each other's side for a single moment.  These are\n    they who continue together throughout life, though they could not\n    even say what they would have of one another (191d-192c) [25]\n\nShould these two persons be offered the opportunity to be fused together for as\nlong as they live, or even in Hades, Aristophanes says that each \"would\nunreservedly deem that he had been offered just what he was yearning for all\nthe time:  (192e).\n\n     Several observations about this text are in order.  Lesbianism is\ncontemplated, as will as male homosexuality (191e).  \"Natural interest\" (ton\nnoun physei), (192b) refelects modern concepts of propensity or inclination. \nThe words, \"born to be a lover of boys or the willing mate of a man: \n(paiderastes te kai philerastes gignetai), (192b) reflect the modern claims \"to\nbe born this,\" i.e., as homosexual.  The idea of mutuallity (\"the two of them\nare wondrously thrilled with affection and intimacy and love,\" 192b) is\npresent.  Aristophanes even speaks of \"mutual love ingrained in mankind\nreassembling our early estate\" (ho eros emphytos allelon tois anthropois kai\ntes archaias physeos synagogeus, 191d). The concept of permanency (\"These are\nthey who continue together throughout life,\" 102c) is also present.  Further\nmention of and\/or allusion to permanecy, mutality, \"gay pride,\" pederasty,\nhomophobia, motive, desire, passion, and the nature of love and its works is\nrecognizable.\n\n    Clearly the ancients thought of love (homosexual or other) apart from\nactions.  THe speakers in the Symposium argue that motive in homosexuality is\ncrucial;  money, office, influence, etc. . . bring reproach (182e-183a, 184b). \nThey mention the need to love the soul not the body (183e).  There are tow\nkinds of love in the body (186b) and each has its \"desire\" and \"passion\"\n(186b-d).  The speakers discuss the principles or \"matters\" of love (187c), the\ndesires of love (192c) and being \"males by nature\" (193c).  Noteworthy is the\nspeech of Socrates who devotes much attention to explaining how desire is\nrelated to love and its objects (200a-201c).  Desire is felt for \"what is not\nprovided or present; for something they have not or are not or lack.\"  This is\nthe object of desire and love.  Socrates clearly distinguishes between \"what\nsort of being is love\" and the \"works\" of love (201e).  This ancient\nphilosopher could think of both realms -seaual acts as well as disposition of\nbeing or nature.  His wors have significance for more than pederasty. [26]\n\n     In summary, virtually every element in the modern discussion of love and\nhomosexuality is anticipated in the Symposium of Plato.  Petersen is in error\nwhen he claims that the ancients could only think of homosexual acts, not\ninclination or orientation.  Widespread evidence to the contray supports the\nlatter. [27]\n\n     Biblical support for homosexuality inclination in the contexts where\nhomosexual acts are discribed adds to the case for the ancient distinction.  In\nRom 1:21-28 such phrases as \"reasoning,\" \"heart,\" \"becoming foolish,\" \"desires\nof the heart.\" and \"reprobate mind\" prove Paul's concern for disposition and\ninclination along with the \"doing\" or \"working\" of evil (also see vv. 29-32). \nEven the catologues of vices are introdiced (I Tim 1:8-10) or concluded (I Cor\n6:9-11) by words describing what people \"are\" or \"were,\" not what they \"do.\" \nHabits betray what people are within, as also the Lord Jesus taught (cf. Matt.\n23:28).  The inner condition is as important as the outer act; one gives rise\nto the other (cf. Mt 5:27).\n\n     Petersen errs regarding other particulars too.  Transvestism apparently\nwas accepted by the ancients.   It was practiced among Canaaniteds, Syrian,\npeople of Asia Minor, as well as Greeks, according to S.R. Driver. [28]  Only a\nfew moralist and Jewish writers are on record as condemning it.  For example,\nSeneca (Moral Epistles 47.7-8) condemns homosexual exploitation that forces an\nadult slave to dress, be beardless, and behave as a woman.  Philo also goes to\nsome length to describe the homosexuals of his day and their dressing as women\n(The Special Laws III, 37-41;  see also his On the Virtues, 20-21, where he\njustifies prohibition of cross-dressing).  Even the OT forbade the interchange\nof clothing between the sexes  (Deut 22:5).\n\n     Petersen is also wrong in attributing to Christianity the creating of the\n\"new labels\" of \"natural\" and \"unnatural\" for sexual behavior.  These did not\nbegin with Paul (Rom 1:26-27) but go as far back as ancient Greece and even\nnon-Christian contemporaries used them.  Plato, the TEST.NAPH., Philo, Josephu,\nPlutarch, and others used these words or related concepts. [29]\n\nLinguistic Grounds","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
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{"text":"THE WHITE HOUSE\n\n                    Office of the Press Secretary\n_____________________________________________________________________\nFor Immediate Release                                  April 20, 1993\n\n\n                            PRESS BRIEFING\n                           BY DEE DEE MYERS\n\n                          The Briefing Room\n\n\n9:47 A.M. EDT\n\t     \n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Okay, today's schedule.  As you know, the \nPresident jogged this morning with Senator Wofford.  \n\t     \n\t     At 1:15 p.m., he will have a photo opportunity in the \nRose Garden to present the Teacher of the Year Award.  At 1:30 p.m., \nhe will meet with his principal advisors on Bosnia.  And at 5:00 \np.m., he'll meet with President Vaclav Havel.  There will be a photo \nop at the top of that meeting; no formal press conference afterwards.\n\t     \n\t     Any questions?\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Is he moving towards some major decision this week \non Bosnia?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  As we've said, he's continuing to discuss \nhis options.  He's been talking extensively with his foreign policy \nadvisors, his Bosnia advisors, as well as with other world leaders.  \nHe'll try to contact President Mitterrand again today, and he'll \ncontinue to discuss it.  We don't have any specific timetable, but \nobviously the situation there is very serious.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Has he called Janet Reno today or yesterday?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I don't believe he's spoken to her today.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Why does he have nothing to say about this publicly \nexcept on the piece of paper that was put out last night at 6:40 \np.m.?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  He did.  He answered a question about it \nyesterday.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Before anything had happened.\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Before anything happened.  He put out --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Since something has happened he's had nothing to \nsay.\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  He's put out a statement on it last night.  \nAnd we'll have more to say about it later today.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  In what forum is that going to be?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  It will be at the photo in the Rose Garden.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  He will talk about Waco at that?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Yes, he'll have something to say.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Is that something we can take live?\n\t     \n\f\n\t     MS. MYERS:  I think it will be brief.  We can talk a \nlittle later about the exact structure as we work it out.  But I \ndon't know if it's something you'd want to take live.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Will he take questions on Waco at that time as \nwell?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  He'll probably take a few.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Is there any reason why he hasn't talked to the \nAttorney General?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I'll have to double-check.  I don't know \nthat he hasn't talked to her this morning.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  And she didn't come here this morning to see him or \nanyone else?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  No.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  And he didn't talk yesterday?\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What's the reaction to her resignation statement \nthat she made last night?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  She was asked a question about it, and she \nanswered the question.  The President has absolutely no intention of \nasking for the Attorney General's resignation.  He stands behind her \n100 percent.  As you know, he was informed about the decision.  He \ntakes full responsibility for that, and stands 100 percent behind \nAttorney General Reno.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  The question now arises -- yesterday we were told \nthat he was briefed on this, but we never got a firm idea of how much \nhe knew of what the plan was and the justification for the plan and \nthe justification of the timing.  Was he fully informed on all of \nthat, all of this about the increasing levels of violence inside the \ncompound that made them want to go now, the feeling that nothing else \nwas going to succeed, et cetera?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  He talked with the Attorney General about \nthe decision, about -- she talked to him about the factors that led \nto her decision.  He raised no objections.  He supports her decision \nto go forward with it.  He was fully briefed.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Of course, hindsight is 20-20, but looking back \nnow, does the President, does the White House feel that the decision \nhe signed off on proved to be the right way to go when you look at \nwhat actually happened?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I think everybody feels bad when life is \nlost.  But I don't think that that is reason to second-guess the \ndecision.  He stands behind the decision that was made.  He was \ninformed about it.  He was fully briefed about it and he stands 100 \npercent behind the Attorney General, the Justice Department and the \nFBI.  It's a difficult operation and there's -- it had already gone \non for more than seven weeks.  Four federal agents had lost their \nlives in the line of duty -- let's not forget that.  \n\t     \n\t     This was a very difficult situation and all the \ndecisions involved were very difficult.  But all the agents on the \nground, the FBI, the Justice Department all recommended moving \nforward with this.  They thought, given the circumstances, it was the \nbest possible course of action.  There's just no point in second-\nguessing those decisions.  Now, I think that there's a reason --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Why not?  They have to --\n\t     \n\f\n\t     MS. MYERS:  No, not to second-guess the decisions.  I \nthink it's important to take a look at it, to have an investigation.  \nI think the President will talk some about that later today.  But at \nthis -- from this vantage point, to second-guess those decisions, \nit's not useful.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  You sound like he's going to order an investigation \nof what happened and whether --\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I think he'll have more to say about that \nlater, yes.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  He will order an investigation?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  He'll have more -- yes -- he'll have more to \nsay about an investigation.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What kind of investigation?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  He'll have more to say about it later.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  But in the Monday morning quarterbacking, surely \nthere is some soul-searching now as to whether it was the right \ndecision.  You can't say that we did the best we could when it turned \nout to be a rather -- a debacle.\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:   I think we'll -- obviously, we'll review \nthe situation and all the factors that lead to a very tragic outcome.  \nI don't think anybody disputes that the outcome was tragic.  But, \nagain, the President stands behind the decisions that were made and \nwe'll take a look at the factors that contributed to that.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What was the FBI Director's role in this?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Well, he was obviously involved in setting \nup the operation.  He signed off on it, as did the agents that were \non the ground that were working with him.  I don't believe he spoke \nto the President, but I'll double-check that.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  But he was very closely involved in every aspect of \nplanning and so forth?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I would refer you to the FBI on exactly what \naspects he was involved with.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Will Janet Reno be coming over to the White House \ntoday?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  There's no planned meeting.  I don't believe \nthat she'll be here.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  She won't be at this event at 1:15 p.m.?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  No, no plans to be.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Do you think that there's going to be a jumping on \non the part of political opposition to make something out of this in \nterms of -- to the President's detriment politically?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Well, I would certainly hope that people \nwouldn't try to use this tragedy for political reasons.  Obviously, I \nthink, again, that it's useful to look at the facts, to reevaluate \nthe facts, and I think the President will move forward with that.  \nBut I think people understand that this was a difficult series of \ndecisions; that it was a very difficult situation; that it was caused \nby a man who was a cult leader who was involved in the death of four \nfederal agents.   And I think it's most tragic that a lot of innocent \n\f\nchildren lost their lives in this.  I don't think anybody disputes \nthe tragedy of the outcome.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Dee Dee, what was the White House role in handling \nthe, I guess, public relations aspect  in the aftermath?  Who was \ntalking -- who here at the White House was talking with people at \nJustice to set up Reno's news conference, to do all that sort of \nthing?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I think the Attorney General handled her end \nof the situation herself and made the decision to go ahead with the \nnews conference once there was a point at which there was enough \ninformation, I think, to talk with some accuracy about what had \ntranspired during the day.  Obviously, people here at a number of \nlevels were keeping in touch with people at the Justice Department \nand at the FBI to try to keep informed about what was happening \nthere.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  But Reno said that she didn't talk to the \nPresident, and there seemed to be an indication she hadn't talked to \nanybody at the White House.  So who --\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  There were people talking on a staff-to-\nstaff level.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  I understand.  But who at the Justice Department \nwas handling that for Reno?  Who was talking to the White House?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  There were a number of people.  As you know, \nWebb Hubbell is the liaison to the White House, and I know he talked \nto a number of people here.  There were a number of people at a \nnumber of different levels involved.  I don't want to get into \nexactly who had what conversations with whom, but there were a number \nof conversations.  Obviously, the Justice Department was working to \nkeep the White House informed, the press informed to the best of its \nability as events unfolded throughout the day.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Did Webb Hubbell talk to the President?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I don't believe so.  I don't know if he \ntalked -- he may have at one point.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  And was the White House role just to seek \ninformation about what happened, or was it to direct the public \ninformation campaign that followed?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  It was both to keep abreast of the situation \nso the President could be on top of it, but I think the Justice \nDepartment managed its press relations on it.  We were obviously very \ninterested in what was happening there throughout the day, and the \nPresident was following it very closely throughout the day.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Dee Dee, on that, though, if the President was \nfollowing it so closely and he had talked the night before with Janet \nReno, why wouldn't he talk to her at all since then?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Again, I don't know if he's talked to her \nthis morning.  Again, he's kept fully aware of what has been going on \nthroughout the day.  He stands 100 percent behind her decisions.  \nHe's been fully supportive of her, as he said yesterday morning \nbefore events transpired and yesterday afternoon in a written \nstatement.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  But wouldn't he want to convey those thoughts to \nher personally yesterday?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  One more time, I don't know if they've \nspoken this morning.\n\f\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  No, yesterday.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Clearly there's a perception that she was left hung \nout to dry all day yesterday.\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  That's just not true.  I think we said \nthroughout the day that the President takes full responsibility, that \nhe stands -- I don't know how much clearer we can be.  The President \nstands foursquare behind the Attorney General on this.  He accepts \nfull responsibility for the events that transpired.  He believes that \nJanet Reno, the Justice Department, and the FBI acted as best they \ncould, given the circumstances and the facts that were evident at the \ntime.  I don't know what else he can say to show that he supports her \n1,000 percent.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  One of the best indications of that is to pick up \nthe phone and tell her.\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Again, I don't know whether they've spoken \nthis morning.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Why can't we find out?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Well, we can.  I can't do it standing here \nright now.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  You've got six people here.  All they've got to do \nis pick up the phone.\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Helen, we'll get back to you.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Dee Dee, when the President spoke with the Attorney \nGeneral on Sunday, is it safe to assume that either she volunteered \nor he inquired about whether there was a possible downside to \nincreasing pressure on the Davidians?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I think that they discussed the situation.  \nAgain, I'm not going to get into the specific details of what exactly \nshe told him, but I think that he was aware of the risks involved.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Dee Dee, the President yesterday morning said it \nwas entirely her decision.  She then said that she told him what was \nhappening and he said, okay.  Does the President regard it that he \ngave the go-ahead or that she gave the go-ahead?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I think what they both said yesterday was \nthat she made a decision based on all the available facts.  She \ninformed him about that and he raised no objections.  Again, I don't \nknow how much clearer we can be about that.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  And he said, okay.  The issue is over the \nresponsibility.\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  He said, okay.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t   Does okay mean --\n\n\t     MS. MYERS:  The President accepts ultimate \nresponsibility.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Dee Dee, the President's investigation that he's \ngoing to announce -- would that be conducted by someone outside the \nadministration?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  No.\n\t     \n\f\n\t     Q\t  It would be internal -- is it meant to preclude any \ncongressional investigation?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  No, it's meant simply to follow up on the \nincidents that occurred yesterday.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  And you would, I assume, therefore, cooperate fully \nwith any congressional hearings that would be held?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  To the best of our ability.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Dee Dee, there are two reports out this morning.  \nOne that the Justice Department, or FBI, or whomever, apparently had \na bug planted inside the complex.  And the other is that the children \nmay have been injected with some kind of poison that may have either \nleft them unconscious or maybe even killed them before the fire.  \nWhat do you know about those two --\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Nothing more than I've seen in news accounts \nthis morning.  We may get more on it later, but at this point, I know \n-- I'm not sure anybody knows any more than what was reported by \npeople who came out of the compound.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Has the President received any report today in \nterms of fatalities and actually what was going on -- what they've \nbeen able to find out on in the compound now?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  He's been briefed.  I don't think that \nthey've gotten into the compound yet.  They were still waiting for it \nto cool off.  I don't think there's much beyond what's been reported \nin the news accounts.  But he has been kept up-to-date on it.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Dee Dee, the President stands behind Attorney \nGeneral Reno, but does he feel that she perhaps got bad advice from \nthe so-called experts?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  He believes that she made -- he stands \nbehind the decision that she made.  It was the unanimous decision of \nher advisors, of the FBI, of the agents on the ground, and he \nsupports that.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What about the validity of the decisions made on \nthe ground?  Does he back those --\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  He's not going to second-guess decisions \nmade.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Dee Dee, you just said, he stands behind the \ndecision which she made.  Normally, in a situation like this, the \nPresident says, I  made the decision.  But you're saying she made the \ndecision?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I'm saying that the President was briefed \nabout the decision.  He okayed it and he accepts full responsibility \nfor it.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  But then why do you keep using the terminology, the \ndecision that she made, rather than the decision that he made --\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Because, as he said yesterday, she evaluated \nthe facts based on evidence presented to her by Justice Department \nand FBI, which is part of the Justice Department, and made a decision \nand then briefed the President on that decision.  That is how the \nchain of command works.  She briefed him.  He signed off on it.  The \noperation went forward, and the President accepts full \nresponsibility.\n\t     \n\f\n\t     Q\t  In that chain of command analogy there, I want to \ngo back to Sessions a moment.  Do you know if this was a plan that \ncame through him to Reno, or was it presented to her around him or \nwith his involvement?  What was his involvement?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Again, you'd have to go to the Justice \nDepartment for the specific interaction between the Attorney General \nand the Director.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Does the President stand behind Director Sessions?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  He supports -- again, I don't know how many \ndifferent ways I can say this -- he supports the decisions made by \nthe Justice Department and the FBI.  He fully supports the Attorney \nGeneral in this.  I'm not stepping away from the Director of the FBI, \nI want to -- but Janet Reno is the one who briefed him, the one who \nmade the decisions as the head of the Justice Department.  As you \nknow, the Director of the FBI reports to the Attorney General.  The \nAttorney General made the decision.  She informed the President about \nthose decisions.  He okayed it.  He didn't raise any objections to \nit, and he accepts full responsibility.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Do you have, based on what you know here at the \nWhite House, any concerns about William Sessions' performance during \nthis --\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Nothing to suggest that, no.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Along those same lines, just in your initial review \nof the situation, how much do you think the problems might have come \nfrom not having a Justice Department that's fully staffed and having \nan FBI Director who is still quite uncertain about his status?    \n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I just don't think that had anything to do \nwith it.  I think the agents on the ground -- the operation went \nforward.  I'm not going to speculate on that.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Did the White House express any alarm that Janet \nReno chose to speak to the live network media before she chose to \nspeak to Clinton?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:   No.  She was carrying forward her \nresponsibility to inform the public about the events of yesterday.  I \nthink she did a very admirable job.  The President agrees with that.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Before Sunday, how often was the President briefed \non the situation in Waco?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  He was kept updated on a regular basis, on a \ndaily basis.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Who briefed the President?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Well, I'm not going to get into exactly who, \nwhat conversations he had with whom, but he was kept up-to-date on \nthe events in Waco.  He has daily briefings on a number of issues.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  No, no, was this a regular briefing conducted by a \nWhite House staff person, or was it by a Justice Department person?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  He's briefed regularly by a White House \nstaff on a number of issues.  Again, I'm not going to get into \nexactly who briefs him on what subjects.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Another subject?\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  On another subject.\n\t     \n\f\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Now we're going to do gays in the military.  \n(Laughter.)\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I welcome it.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  How close are you to signing the biodiversity \ntreaty?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  As you know, the President's giving a speech \non Earth Day tomorrow.  We'll have more to say about it then.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Any details on where or when that speech is yet?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  It's at 11:30 a.m. and I don't know where \nyet.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Dee Dee, is this a major policy address?  How would \nyou characterize the speech tomorrow?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I would characterize it as a Earth Day \nspeech.  I wouldn't look for any major departures from his past \npositions on these things.  But, again, I don't want to get too much \ninto what he's going to talk about tomorrow.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  On or off campus?\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Is this at a location outside the White House?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  It will be somewhere in Washington.  We \ndon't know exactly where yet.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Dee Dee, what foreign leaders has the President \ntalked to since Friday on the situation in Bosnia? \n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Only Prime Minister Major.  And again, he'll \ntry to reach President Mitterrand again this morning.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  David Owen said yesterday and Joe Biden said today \n-- both of them agree that the peace process is not going to work, \nthat the Serbs are not going to sign on.  Does the administration \nstill believe that it can work and that they will sign on?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Obviously, the ultimate goal is some sort of \npeaceful resolution to the conflict in Bosnia.  As you know, the \nadministration is considering a wide variety of options at this \npoint.  The situation there in and around Srebrenica and the rest of \nEastern Bosnia is quite serious.  And the President will meet with \nhis Bosnian advisors today and continue to press forward on this.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Is that a question they're going to try to be \ndeciding whether or not the peace plan remains viable?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Again, they'll be reviewing a number of \noptions, including the peace plan.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Does the group that he's meeting with today include \nReg Bartholomew?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I don't believe he's here.  But it will be \namong the usual -- Secretary Christopher, Secretary Aspin, General \nPowell.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Dee Dee, do you have anything on the apparent \nencounter by U.S. F-15s over Bosnia today -- some aircraft violating \nthe no-fly zone?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  No, I don't.  I'll get back to you on that.\n\f\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Will the President be meeting with every one of the \nleaders coming to town for the Holocaust Museum?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  He will.  He'll be meeting, as you know, \nwith Vaclav Havel today and with Lech Walesa tomorrow, and then with \nthe rest of the group tomorrow afternoon.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  As a group, or one by one?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I believe it's as a group.  Now, Havel and \nWalesa asked for meetings early and these have been on the agenda for \nquite some time.  But he will meet with all of the foreign heads of \nstate that are here.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Dee Dee, has the President decided whether he \nsupports the gay and lesbian civil rights act?  And has anything been \nworked out for him to address the march on Sunday?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I think he'll probably have a letter or some \nkind of a statement to the march.  We haven't worked out the exact \ndetails of that.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Not a live phone hook-up?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Probably not, given the logistics of getting \nto Boston.  The speech, as you know, is at 4:00 p.m.  The answer to \nthe other part of your question is, no, he hasn't taken a position on \nit.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  You said that speech in Boston was at 4:00 p.m.?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I believe so, yes.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Do you know what it's on?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  We'll still working out --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  General Vessey's coming back tonight from Vietnam.  \nWhen will he be meeting with the President?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  No specific meeting is scheduled.  We'll \ntalk to him at some point and see.  We look forward to his report, \nbut exactly how he'll make that report is unclear.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  So he's not going to come immediately to the White \nHouse?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  No.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  The AIDS czar -- how close are you?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Still working on it.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Drug czar?\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Do you expect it before the march?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I don't have a time line on it.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Did the President ask Senator Mitchell to try the \nLloyd Cutler ploy to break the filibuster?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I don't believe so.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Why not?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  He's just not going to.\n\f\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Are Senate Democrats here at this hour?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  No, that's tomorrow -- tomorrow at 9:30 a.m.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Update on the stimulus, possible scaling down --\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  As you know, the Senate will vote on \namendments today.  We'll continue to talk.  The President is \ncommitted to some kind of a jobs package; we'd like to see it passed.  \nAnd we'll continue in conversations throughout the day and see where \nwe end up.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  When this briefing is over can you give us word \nthrough the speaker or whatever whether the President's talked to \nJanet Reno?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  We'll be happy to.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  It's become a pressing question for the last \nseveral hours.\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  No, just this minute that I've been here, \nand I haven't had a chance to follow up on it, Helen.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Does he have an opinion on Hatfield?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I mean, obviously, he prefers -- he offered \na compromise package of $12.2 billion.  He believes that that's the \nbest alternative, believes that he's obviously willing to take a \nsecond look at the package.  And I think the Senate will vote on that \ntoday, and we're hopeful that the President's bill, which will be the \nMitchell amendment, will be the one that will be approved.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Dee Dee, is there any White House official that \nwill be at the march on Sunday?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Somebody will be there representing the \nPresident.  I don't know who yet.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Well, has it been decided how he's going to \naddress?  Is it going to be a videotape or a phone call?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  I think it will probably be a letter, but \nthere hasn't been a final decision on that yet.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  The official will read the letter, is that what it \nsounds like?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  Correct.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Lloyd Bentsen came in here this morning.  Do you \nknow what was that about?  Was that about this Waco thing?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  No, actually it wasn't.  It may have come \nup, but it was about economic issues.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  On health care -- is the 17th of May still the \ntarget?\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  That's still the target.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  And there's talk about a Joint Session of Congress \nspeech at the end of May --\n\t     \n\t     MS. MYERS:  We haven't resolved exactly how the \nPresident will present the health care plan to the people.  I \nwouldn't rule that out as an option, but no decisions have been made.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"---\nHello!\n\nWe want to configure our X11R5 sytem (i486 33Mhz running BSD-like UNIX)\ncomming up with a chooser menu with different machines on it (works) an then\nconnect to them. But the only connection works is localhost!\nAn 'X -indirect <machine>' works very well!\nThe configuration:\n\n\t\t- starting the 'xdm' at boot time with no servers specified\n\t\t   in Xservers\n\t\t- starting the X-server at boot time with X -indirect localhost\n\n\t     ---> the chooser menu appears with the machines named in\n\t\t  Xacces bye\n\t\t\t'*\tCHOOSER <machine1> <machine2> ... BROADCAST\t\n\t\t- the number of users on this machines and the load is \n\t\t    displayed correct\n\n\t\t- selecting an other machine than my own host the X-server\n\t\t   starts and nothing happens, after a time out the CHOOSER menu\n\t\t   appears again.\n\nI know the xdm bug in X11R4, but all machines running X11R5\n\nPlease help\n\t\t\tLars\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n\nKnow any Mormons?\n\n\nKnow for a fact that this was happening?  State of Texas says it wasn't,\nand they held a trial to prove it.\n\n\nSure we can.  The top two things are perfectly legal.  The bottom one\nisn't.  The person here who can't distinguish seems to be you.\n\n\nSo the constitution is only for people you approve of.  Fine, fine.\nI usually refer to that as \"elitism,\" because \"bigotry\" is so negative.\n\n\nKnowing that people like you are out there really gives me warm fuzzies.\n\n\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nIf I rember correctly, Lotus Notes gives u this possiblity, among other things...","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nThen post what the press has said, not what you wished they said.\nThe Medical Examiner has refuted the FBI \"facts\" and if you don't\nbelieve someone who has a LOT more reason to be impartial then \nwhat do you have to say for yourself.\n\n\nI was willing to grant this for sake or argument until I read the\nfollowing.\n\nThe FACTS as reported by the press and impartial government\nsources support ME.\n\n\nThere is NO testimony, at the press conference, the FBI said they\nhad NO testimony, the SURVIVORS as reported by CNN and Newsday\nwire service said that ALL the survivors gave consistent stories\nrefuting the FBI. They were lighting and heating with kerosine.\nAre you trying to PROVE you're an idiot.\n\n\n\n\nThen open your eyes and ears, at least 3 of those 4 sources have\nreported your full of shit.\n\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Figured it out.  The answer lies in mit\/server\/ddx\/mfb\/mfbcustom.h.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nThey police did not beat King when he was on the ground. They beat him when\nhe was on his knees trying to get back up. If you had watche d the entire\nvideo you would have seen this.\n\n\nIf you think this is true, much less relevant, than you are in sadder shape\nthan I thought.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nI once had a sparking problem with my '65 Mustang, and simply changing\nthe spark plug wires fixed it.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Janet Reno killed the Waco children.  She is responsible for\ntheir deaths.  She should resign immediately.  She should have \nunderstood that David Koresh was a madman who would do anything\nagainst the children if he became provoked.  All the warning \nsigns were there and she ignored them.  She provoked Koresh\ninto killing the children.\n\nThe situation in Waco was similar to a hostage situation with \na madman holding a gun against the head of an innocent person.\nIn such a situation, a person who provokes the madman and causes \nhim to pull the gun's trigger is responsible for the death of the\nhostage.  Janet Reno blindly stumbled in there and basically\nthrew a tear gas container at the madman hoping that he would\nrelease the hostage.  It's no surprise that the madman would\npull the trigger in response to that kind of provocation.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"------------------------- Original Article -------------------------\n\nThe Colorado Daily recently reprinted the Wall Street Journal's article\non Paxton Quigley, including the nefarious little paragraph the Journal\ntacked onto the end.  After recieving much assistance from various T.P.G.\ntype folks, I wrote a letter to the editor criticizing this last paragraph,\nand surprise, surprise, surprise, they published it.  The text follows.\nThe Colorado Daily, btw, is the University of Colorado (Boulder) student\n(I think) newspaper... not exactly a big coup, but every little bit, i guess...\n\n(The title was the only thing they changed\/added)\n\n\"Gun Stats\"\n\nThe Daily recently reprinted an article from the\nWall Street Journal, primarily concerned with Paxton\nQuigley, author of \"Armed and Female.\"  The article,\nin turn, cites a misleading statistic that was originally\nreported in the New England Journal of Medicine.  The\narticle states, \"A study... found that a gun in the home\nwas 43 times more likely to be used to kill its owner,\nspouse, a friend, or child than to kill an intruder.\"  This\nis an often-quoted statistic, and it is misleading for sev-\neral reasons, outlined below:\n\nThe study gives the impression that, if you own a\ngun, the likelihood that you will successfully use it to\ndefend yourself is less than that of the gun being turned\nagainst you.  The study, however, fails to take into\naccount cases where a law-abiding citizen uses a gun\nto thwart a crime, without actually killing the perpe-\ntrator.\n\nThe study actually refers to 'acquaintances' rather\nthan 'friend'.  This would include the friendly neigh-\nborhood thug who shows up like clockwork, every\nmonth, the second your grandmother cashes her social\nsecurity check.  Possibly an acquaintance, but hardly a\nfriend.\n\nThe NEJM study is based on the immediate dis-\nposition of cases and fails to take into account cases\noriginally filed as homicides that were later ruled to be\nself-defense.  Especially considering the small sample\nsize (396), taking these events into account has a sub-\nstantial effect on the 43:1 ratio quoted.\n\nCriminologist Gary Kleck gives us a slightly dif-\nerent statistic: a gun is 33 times more likely to be\nused, successfully, by a private citizen against an\naggressor than it is to kill anyone at all.  Further, per-\nsons defending themselves from aggression by using a\ngun fare better than those who resist vicimization by\nsome other means, or who offer no resistance at all.\nStatistics available from the FBI and other agencies\nalso show that a gun is 245 times more likely to be\nused by a non-criminal to defend against criminal threat\nthan to be used to commit criminal homicide, 535 times\nmore likely to be used to defend against a criminal\nthreat than to accidentally kill anybody, and 50 times\nmore likely to defend against criminal threat than to be\nused to commit suicide.\n\nIt is well to keep in mind that nearly anything can\nbe proved by uncritical quotation of statistics.  One has\nto consider carefully what questions were asked by\nthose gathering the data before one can draw an accu-\nrate conclusion from them.\n\nD.F. Taylor\nCU Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry\n\n\n--\nSpooksmoke: Revolution, Assasination, Thorium, Cobalt-60, Clintin, CIA, NSA, SHC\n  DoD #202 \/ loki@acca.nmsu.edu \/ liberty or death \/ taylordf@ucsu.colorado.edu\n                 Send me something even YOU can't read...\n-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----\nVersion: 2.2","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"-- \nPete Norton\npeten@well.sf.ca.us\npeten@holonet.net    \nnorton@hou.amoco.com          \n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nI don't think this will work.  Still the same in space\nintegration problems,  small modules, especially the Bus-1 modules.\nthe MOL would be bigger.   \n\nAlso,  budget problems  may end up stalling developemnt.  \nA small undersized station wont have the science community support.\n\n\nProgram effeciencies may cut costs,  but the basic problems\nwith freedom remain.  in space integration,  too many flights\ntoo build.  not enough science retrurn.  \n\n\nEssentialy  $5 billion to build MIR.\n\nI think had NASA  locked onto this design, back in 1984,  with\nscarring to support a TRUSS for real expandability,  we'd be looking\nat a flying space station.\n\nThis looks the most realistic, to me,  IMHO,  but,  i dont know if\nthere is enough will power  to toss the CDR'd  existing hardware\nand then  take a 1\/3rd  power cut  and do it this way.\n\nthe core  launch station has a lot of positive ideas.  You could stick\nin more hatches for  experimental  concept modules.  Like the ET\nderived workshops.  Or inflatable modules.\n\npat\n\n\nSad but true.\n\nepitaph.  Killed by mis-management.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"   >Remember that they've promised to let a committee of outside experts see\n   >the cryptosystem design.\n\n   I hope there are some silicon jocks on the committee who can follow\n   the algorithm through to hardware.  While I doubt the NSA would pull\n   any monkey business on this point -- they have to expect that the\n   chip will be reverse-engineered sooner or later -- it's an obvious\n   opportunity to introduce additional holes.\n\nThe chip isn't the place to pull the monkey business - you do it in\nthe key generation, either by having a mathematical backdoor,\nor by having the program on the laptop that supposedly generates the\nkeys also save a copy of S1 and S2 and leak it out somehow,\nor by having the program that supposedly puts the official keys\non the chip actually put a *different* key there (VERY hard to detect,\nsince the escrow agents have to either trust the NSA laptop or\ngive each other the S* keys, and they still don't know the algorithm.)\nOr have the chip-burner at the factory make copies of the keys.\nOr whatever.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nA mileage chart should be available in the book.  It usually goes by\nthe class of car you own and year.  Usually you will end up adding a few\nhundred dollars to the retail price or subtracting it...  Consumer\nReports also has a number you can call and get a quote for your area.\nA friend of mine used it, and was quite happy with the service.  I\nbelieve it cost about $10.00.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nThe basic definition that I use is:\n\tThe belief that Jesus was God incarnate.\n\tThe belief that Jesus was crucified and raised from the dead\n\tfor our salvation.\n\tThe acceptance of Jesus as personal Lord and Savior.\n\nThis would include most Christian denominations, but exclude the Unitarians.\n\t","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I have some brand new copies of the following books for sale. Some are \ndown-rev, don't know which or by how much: look to # of pages, copyright \ndate, etc. for clues.\n\n  \"PostScript Language Reference Manual\", Adobe Sys. Inc., Addison-Wesley,\n        copyr. 1986, printed 1990. 299 pages. $22.95.\n\n  \"PostScript Language Tutorial and Cookbook\", as above, 243 pages, $16.95\n\nI'll sell the above two books as a set for $15 postage paid w\/in US.\n\n  \"OpenLook GUI Functional Specification\", Sun Micro, Addison-W, copyr. 1989,\n        564 pages, $34.95.\n\n  \"OpenLook GUI Application Style Guidelines\", 388 pages, $24.95.\n\nI'll sell the above two books as a set for $15 ppd. w\/in US. \n\n  O'Reilly & Associates Definitive Guides to the X Window System, copyr. \n  1990, \"for version 11\", \"revised and updated for Release 4\":\n\n  Vol. 0: \"X Protocol Reference Manual,\" 498 pages $30\n  Vol. 1: \"Xlib Programming Manual,\" 672 pages $34.95\n  Vol. 2: \"Xlib Reference Manual,\" 792 pages $34.95\n  Vol. 7: \"XView Programming Manual,\" 640 pages $30\n\nI'll sell the above four books as a set for $35 ppd. w\/in US\n\nDue to the high hassle\/$ ratio I am asking for pre-payment by check. I'll \nbe queing cashing, packing, and shipping so be prepared to wait 3 weeks \nfor your books to show up. \n\nIf you'd like to pick them up, I live in San Francisco. Same prices though. \n\nE-mail me if you are interested. Thanks!","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Does anyone know of any type of acceleration sensor that has\nan electrical output of any sort?  It would only have to sense\nacceleration in one direction.\n\nThanx,\n\nMike\n\n-- ","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc\nSubject: Hiragana\/Katakana TT fonts\nKeywords: hiragana, katakana, TrueType, Japanese\n\n\nWhere can I obtain TrueType hiragana and katakana (Japanese phonetic character)\nfonts?\n\n(note: I can receive mail at the address in the header, but I cannot send.)","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\tI would agree that a propane explosion is as likely as an\n\tammunition\/explosives blast. My question was directed to the\n\tperson who claimed that the propane tank was likely ruptured\n\tby the tank before, or just as, the fire started. If that were \n\ttrue, shouldn't the explosion have happened very soon after \n\tthe fires started?\t\n\n\n\n\n\tThe FBI has made such a fuss over the videotapes and other\n\tevidence that they have to release something sooner or\n\tlater. It's going to happen, and we'll get to see for\n\tourselves.\n\n\tOften law enforcement agencies will withold evidence from\n\tpublic view until the investigation is over.  \n\n                  _____  _____\n                  \\\\\\\\\\\\\/ ___\/___________________\n  Mitchell S Todd  \\\\\\\\\/ \/                 _____\/__________________________\n________________    \\\\\/ \/ mst4298@zeus._____\/.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'_'_'_\/\n\\_____        \\__    \/ \/ tamu.edu  _____\/.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'_'_\/\n    \\__________\\__  \/ \/        _____\/_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_\/\n                \\_ \/ \/__________\/\n                 \\\/____\/\\\\\\\\\\\\\n \t\t\t \\\\\\\\\\\\","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I have written the file manager HFM, wich has two windows which compare\nthe files in two directorys to find out wether there are equal or \nsimilar files. The 7 most important operations, copy, move, delete,\nshow the file, start a progam, navigate in the directory tree can be\ninvoked by dragging a directory entry with the mouse. This is very\nconvenient, because the selection of the file and the operation to\nbe performed, occur in one move. For bitmap graphic viewing the\nprogram vpic can be integrated, for spreadsheat and database files\nI use the view program from PCTOOLS 7.1. HFM can be configured to\nuse arbitrary viewers to show special data formats. It does\nalso present archives from pkzip etc. as simulated subdirectorys.\nThis filemanager has a somewhat non standart user interface, but\nit is very convienient to use and is the prefered file manager \nin several labs in our university. \nThe drawback of this filemanager is, it's still a dos program and\nthe development of a windows version has not yet begun. I use the\nprogram package run18.zip, where run tells its windows companion\nsched.exe which windows program should be started. In this way you\ncan start a windows program from a dosbox. The new version 3.19\n(to be released soon) includes a new command for automating this\nwindows program start.\nFTP archives for the mentioned programs (all these archives have several\nmirror sites)\nSimtel oak.oakland.edu 141.210.10.117\n\/filutl\/hfm318.zip\n\/gif\/vpic60e.zip\nGarbo garbo.uwasa.fi 128.214.87.1\n\/dirutil\/hfm318.zip\nCICA ftp.cica.indiana.edu 129.79.20.17 \n\/util\/run18.zip\n-","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Dear news readers,\n\nIs there anyone using sheep models for cardiac research, specifically\nconcerned with arrhythmias, pacing or defibrillation? I would like\nto hear from you.\n\nMany thanks,\n\nAndrew Mears\n*************** PLEASE EMAIL ME *************","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nPeter> : > Does anyone have any  other suggestions where the 42 came from?\n\nPeter> Yep, here's a theory that I once heard bandied around.  Rather than thinking\nPeter> of the number think of the sound. For Tea Two. A sort of anagram on Tea For Two,\nPeter> Two for Tea, For Tea Two.\n                    ~~~~~~~~~~~ \nUn other suggestion is there is no Tea above! It just \nAnd For Two many things are possible; think binary, + -, Y\/N,\nL\/R, T\/F  No wonder there was Eve for Adam! \n\nPeter> :-)\n \nMalek :-) :-)\n\n--\n Malek.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"At first this kind of ranting annoyed me, but now it's rather entertaining.\nThese kinds of posts don't require ANY facts, logic, or even sense. It's \nkind of like what 10-year old kids do on the playground. So go on and play.\nNot everyone on the net is as simple minded as you guys seem to be.\n\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\"Nothing is as inevitable as a mistake whose time has          Garrett Johnson\n come.\" --Tussman                                           Garrett@Ingres.com\n\"The probability of someone watching you is proportional\nto the stupidity of your action.\" - Unknown","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nThis is, apparently, what passes for intelligent discourse at Trinity.\nJoe \"FBI cultist\" Kusmierczak gets angry when its pointed out that\nthe FBI has told him is a LIE, the mounting evidence is that \nthey've lied about almost every detail of 4\/19 except that they\nwere there. What can you expect of cultists like him, somebody\noughtta burn him out, and if he's trapped, well, good riddance!\nRight Joe?\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan) Pontificated: \n\nIs this from the Quran (or however it's spelled)?\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"MC> Theory of Creationism: MY theistic view of the theory of\nMC> creationism, (there  are many others) is stated in Genesis\nMC> 1.  In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.\n\nAnd which order of Creation do you accept?\tThe story of creation is one of the\nmany places in the Bible where the Story contradicts itself.  The following is\nan example...\n\nGEN 1:25  And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle \nafter  their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his\nkind: and God saw that it was good.\nGEN 1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image,  after  our likeness: \nand  let  them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of\nthe air, and over the cattle, and  over  all the  earth,  and over every\ncreeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.\n\nGEN 2:18  And the LORD God said, It is  not  good  that  the  man should be\nalone; I will make him an help meet for him.\nGEN 2:19  And out of the ground the LORD God formed  every  beast of  the \nfield,  and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he\nwould call them: and whatsoever  Adam  called every living creature, that was\nthe name thereof.\n\nEven your Bible cannot agree on how things were created.  Why should we\nbelieve in it?","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":": I have a little question:\n: \n: I need to convert RGB-coded (Red-Green-Blue) colors into HVS-coded\n: (Hue-Value-Saturnation) colors. Does anyone know which formulas to\n: use?\n\nLets see if I have this right... HSV == HSB == HSL ... and none of those\nare the same as HLS.  Hopefully, HVS is just a transposition of HSV, and\nnot yet another color model... \n\nThe following code should do the HSV (HSL) coding (I haven't tried it yet)\n(Thanks to bultman@dgw.rws.nl)\n\nAnother possibility is \/mirrors\/msdos\/graphics\/graphgem.zip on\nwuarchive.wustl.edu.\n\nBill Neisius\nbill@solaria.hac.com\n\n----------------\n\nThe following code is from the starbase (HP) manual:\n(all coordinates noralised at 0-1 interval)\n\n     hsl_to_rgb(hue, saturation, luminosity, red, green, blue)\n     float   hue, saturation, luminosity;    \/* input in HSL *\/\n     float   *red, *green, *blue;            \/* output in RGB *\/\n     {\n         float       frac, lx, ly, lz;       \/* temporaries *\/\n\n         hue = 6 * hue;\n         frac = hue - (int) hue;\n         lx = luminosity * (1 - saturation);\n         ly = luminosity * (1 - saturation * frac);\n         lz = luminosity * (1 - saturation * (1 - frac));\n \n         switch ((int) hue) {\n             case 0: case 6:\n                 *red = luminosity; *green = lz; *blue = lx; break;\n             case 1:\n                 *red = ly; *green = luminosity; *blue = lx; break;\n             case 2:\n                 *red = lx; *green = luminosity; *blue = lz; break;\n             case 3:\n                 *red = lx; *green = ly; *blue = luminosity; break;\n             case 4:\n                 *red = lz; *green = lx; *blue = luminosity; break;\n             case 5:\n                 *red = luminosity; *green = lx; *blue = ly; break;\n         }\n     }\n     \/******************************************************************************\/\n     rgb_to_hsl(red, green, blue, hue, saturation, luminosity)\n     #define max(a, b, c)    ((a>b?a:b)>c?(a>b?a:b):c)\n     #define min(a, b, c)    ((a<b?a:b)<c?(a<b?a:b):c)\n     float   red, green, blue;               \/* input in RGB *\/\n     float   *hue, *saturation, *luminosity; \/* output in HSL *\/\n     {\n         float       x, tempr, tempg, tempb; \/* temporary values *\/","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"FOR SALE\n\nMS-DOS 6.0 UPGRADE\n\nopen but unregistered\n3.5\" disks\n\n$40 or best offer\n\nPlease mail replies to gt7187c@prism.gatech.edu\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n   Path: dime!ymir.cs.umass.edu!nic.umass.edu!noc.near.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!waikato.ac.nz!ldo\n   From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)\n   Newsgroups: comp.multimedia,comp.graphics\n   Date: 26 Apr 93 05:09:15 GMT\n   References: <1993Mar31.074502.3590@aragorn.unibe.ch>  <1993Apr16.212441.34125@rchland.ibm.com>\n   Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand\n   Lines: 67\n   Xref: dime comp.multimedia:6358 comp.graphics:32606\n\n   OK, with all the discussion about observed playback speeds with QuickTime,\n   the effects of scaling and so on, I thought I'd do some more tests.\n\n   First of all, I felt that my original speed test was perhaps less than\n   realistic. The movie I had been using only had 18 frames in it (it was a\n   version of the very first movie I created with the Compact Video compressor).\n   I decided something a little longer would give closer to real-world results\n   (for better or for worse).\n\n   I pulled out a copy of \"2001: A Space Odyssey\" that I had recorded off TV\n   a while back. About fifteen minutes into the movie, there's a sequence where\n   the Earth shuttle is approaching the space station. Specifically, I digitized\n   a portion of about 30 seconds' duration, zooming in on the rotating space\n   station. I figured this would give a reasonable amount of movement between\n   frames. To increase the differences between frames, I digitized it at only\n   5 frames per second, to give a total of 171 frames.\n\n   I captured the raw footage at a resolution of 384*288 pixels with the Spigot\n   card in my Centris 650 (quarter-size resolution from a PAL source). I then\n   imported it into Premiere and put it through the Compact Video compressor,\n   keeping the 5 fps frame rate. I created two versions of the movie: one scaled\n   to 320*240 resolution, the other at 160*120 resolution. I used the default\n   \"2.00\" quality setting in Premiere 2.0.1, and specified a key frame every ten\n   frames.\n\n   I then ran the 320*240 movie through the same \"Raw Speed Test\" program I used\n   for the results I'd been reporting earlier.\n\n   Result: a playback rate of over 45 frames per second.\n\n   That's right, I was getting a much higher result than with that first short\n   test movie. Just for fun, I copied the 320*240 movie to my external hard\n   disk (a Quantum LP105S), and ran it from there. This time the playback rate\n   was only about 35 frames per second. Obviously the 230MB internal hard disk\n   (also a Quantum) is a significant contributor to the speed of playback.\n\n   I modified my speed test program to allow the specification of optional\n   scaling factors, and tried playing back the 160*120 movie scaled to 320*240\n   size. This time the playback speed was over 60 fps. Clearly, the poster who\n   observed poor performance on scaled playback was seeing QuickTime 1.0 in\n   action, not 1.5. I'd try my tests with QuickTime 1.0, but I don't think it's\n   entirely compatible with my Centris and System 7.1...\n\n   Unscaled, the playback rate for the 160*120 movie was over 100 fps.\n\n   The other thing I tried was saving versions of the 320*240 movie with\n   \"preferred\" playback rates greater than 1.0, and seeing how well they played\n   from within MoviePlayer (ie with QuickTime's normal synchronized playback).\n   A preferred rate of 9.0 (=> 45 fps) didn't work too well: the playback was\n   very jerky. Compare this with the raw speed test, which achieved 45 fps with\n   ease. I can't believe that QuickTime's synchronization code would add this\n   much overhead: I think the slowdown was coming from the Mac system's task\n   switching.\n\n   A preferred rate of 7.0 (=> 35 fps) seemed to work fine: I couldn't see\n   any evidence of stutter. At 8.0 (=> 40 fps) I *think* I could see slight\n   stutter, but with four key frames every second, it was hard to tell.\n\n   I guess I could try recreating the movies with a longer interval between the\n   key frames, to make the stutter more noticeable. Of course, this will also\n   improve the compression slightly, which should speed up the playback performance\n   even more...\n\n   Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: +64-7-856-2889\n   Computer Services Dept                     fax: +64-7-838-4066\n   University of Waikato            electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz\n   Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26\" S, 175^ 19' 7\" E, GMT+12:00\n\n\nI'm afraid I missed the start of this thread, but there are three factors that\ncan significantly affect QuickTime's playback speed that you may want to take\ninto account:\n\n(1) playback bit depth (things are fastest when you play a\nmovie back at the bit depth it was compressed for, this is usually 8 or 16\nbit, but other depths are (of course) possible).\n\n(2) type of scaling (QT is optimized for \"double size\" scaling, other scaling\nfactors hit peformance much harder).\n\n(3) playback window position (MoviePlayer limits your window placement choices\nto advantagous pixel boundaries by default, I'm not sure about Premiere).\n\nAny combination of those can radically alter playback performance.  Image size\nis, of course, another biggie.  Giving the movie player lots of RAM can also\nmake a real difference.\n\nForgive me if these were mentioned earlier in the thread...\n\n-Peter Lee\n\n ","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I would like to get some information on the current systems used for HD-TV\nsound systems.thanks.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Deloreans NEVER had a factory V8.  They were considering production\nwith a turbo (or twin turbo, I forget) version of the standard V6.  As\nto who produced it, you got me!\n\nJonathan","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\tDon't expect to get top quality, just some toughness.  I don't\n\tview Makarov as a player who would add toughness.\n\n\n\tNelson, you're confusing skill and toughness.\n\n\n\tHey, get off the McGill\/Hammond thing.  I'm no fan of either. My\n\tpoint is that last year the Sharks had toughness that was missing\n\tthis year.  This year we had more skill, I'm all for that, but\n\tif your skill players keep getting beat up and injured they\n\tcan't do you much good.  Whether it's a cheap shot or not you\n\tcan't let the other teams push you around.  The 1992-93 Sharks\n\tsimply got pushed around to much.  Other teams knew this.\n\tThey knew they could aggressively check the Sharks and not\n\tpay for it.   Adding some players in the off season who will\n\tadd some toughness to the team will help insure that next\n\tseason other teams will be more hesistant to vigorously \n\tcheck our skill players, or to take cheap shots.  It doesn't\n\tguarantee no injuries (nothing does), but it's something the\n\tSharks can do to reduce the number of injuries.  \n\n\tmark\n\n just say","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"THE WHITE HOUSE\n\n                    Office of the Press Secretary\n_____________________________________________________________________\nFor Immediate Release                                  April 20, 1993\n\n\n                            PRESS BRIEFING\n                       BY GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS\n\n\t     \n                          The Briefing Room\n\n\n12:36 P.M. EDT\n\t     \n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  As you know, the President is going \nto come out at 1:15 p.m.  With your indulgence, I think what we'd \nlike to do is have the President award the National Teacher's Award \nfirst and then have the teacher leave, or whatever, and then he'll \nmake a statement on Waco and take a couple questions.  So if we can \njust hold off going live and all that until that's done, it probably \nwill work out a lot better. \n\t     \n\t     Q\t  If you'll give us the time.  That's the problem.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  We've got a two-minute warning problem.\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Yes, it is a problem.  It's about \n1:15 p.m.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  The teacher would walk off and then --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I think that's -- I'm just trying \nto work this out here.  I think that's the best way to handle it.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Can I ask you a series of questions about the way \nthe President handled the notifications yesterday? \n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Sure.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Did you, for instance, talk to the Justice \nDepartment about who would come out and discuss what had happened in \nWaco and whether it should be the Attorney General or the President?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Why don't we just take a step even \nfarther back from that and look at the whole sequence of events on \nthe contact between the Justice Department and the White House.  As \nyou know and as we've said, the President spoke with the Attorney \nGeneral on Sunday, Sunday afternoon.  They had a good discussion, \nabout 15 minutes.  The Attorney General informed the President of \nwhat she wanted to do.  He raised no objections.  Obviously, she had \nthe implicit authority from the President to go forward.  He raised \nno objections.  She went forward.  They had a discussion of a general \nnature about the incident.\n\t     \n\t     Again, yesterday morning around 11:00 a.m., the \nPresident spoke with the Attorney General again.  They had a brief \ndiscussion over what was happening in Waco.  As you know, this was \nbefore the fire broke out at the compound.  And I think that was why \nthere was some -- just some confusion.  I think that she was \nconfusing in her minds before and after the fire, not the actual day \nwhen they spoke.  \n\t     \n\t     Then there was a number of contacts at a number of \ndifferent levels in the White House yesterday afternoon between the \nJustice Department and the White House.  They were informing us of \n\f\ntheir decisions, what they would like to do.  There was an FBI \nbriefing in Waco.  The Attorney General had her press conference.  \nThe President then issued a statement after that.\n\t     \n\t     Frankly, yesterday afternoon, you know, there was a fair \namount of confusion over exactly what was happening on the ground in \nWaco, and I think that we wanted to be very careful not to have the \nPresident say anything until we had a much better sense of what was \nactually happening on the ground.  Once we were fairly clear on what \nwas happening on the ground in Waco, the President issued a \nstatement.  He spoke with the Attorney General again yesterday \nevening.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  At what hour was that?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  It was quite late.  I believe it \nwas after he returned from the Holocaust Museum.  He took a tour of \nthe Holocaust Museum last night.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  And he went out to dinner.\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I believe briefly.  Yes, he went to \ndinner and then he spoke with the Attorney General last night.  I \ndon't know the exact time; I think it was relatively late.  And he \njust said, I think as Dee Dee has reported, that he just wanted to \ntell her that he thought she handled a difficult situation very well, \nthat she did a good job in a tough situation, and that she should try \nand get some sleep.  He then, again, spoke with her this morning \nabout the follow-up in Waco, and about what they're going to do this \nafternoon.  As you know, the President will have an announcement to \nmake at 1:15.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Did he ever talk with Webb Hubbell yesterday, last \nnight, or this morning?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Not to my knowledge, no.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Was Webb Hubbell the point man for the White House?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Webb Hubbell is the general White \nHouse Liaison and several people talked to Webb.  The Attorney \nGeneral was running the operation.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Did he tell her that she should sleep well, that \nshe had done a good job?  Or he just tell her that she should get \nsome sleep?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I think sleep well -- done a good \njob -- I don't know the exact words.  I think that sounds right.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  I mean, sleep well has implications as to \nconscience and whether she should feel badly about it or not.\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Well, I mean, I think everybody \nfeels badly when you have a situation when --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  I understand that, but whether the issue of blame \nis brought up in that phraseology.\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I think that's the spirit -- no, it \nhas nothing to do with that.  The spirit with which it was offered \nwas that the entire administration and certainly the Attorney General \nhad to face a very difficult decision, a very difficult situation \nyesterday.  And that he thought that she had handled it well, as best \nas she could and --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Well, does he think it was mishandled?\n\f\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  -- it was just speaking of warm \nwords to a friend.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Does he think the situation was mishandled?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  The President --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  In retrospect?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  The President stands  by the \ndecisions of the law enforcement agencies, the decisions of the \nAttorney General.  He accepts full responsibility.  At the same time, \nI think that we all want to look to the future and figure out what \nexactly happened, do a full review, and make sure we do what we can \nto make sure this doesn't happen -- this kind of thing doesn't happen \nagain, or at least we know how to handle it.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  How much did he know about what she was going to go \nahead with?  I know that she made the case to him -- explained --\noutlined the case for action.  Did she say to him on Sunday precisely \nwhat action?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I don't think it was specific \noperational detail as to what was going to happen.  I think that they \nhad a general discussion about the action, about the advisability of \naction.  I think, as she noted, he asked a few general questions just \ntrying to get a sense of how things were considered.  But it wasn't \nminute-by-minute detail of how the operation --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Well, was it, \"we are going in.\"  Is it, \"we're \ngoing to use tear gas\"?  I mean, what?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I believe it was that we want to go \nin and take some action that would increase the pressure on those in \nthe compound, and hopefully spur them towards some sort of movement \nout.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  George, was there ever a conscious political \ndecision made, or even a discussion about distancing the President \nfrom --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Not at all.  I mean, we were in \nclose contact with the Justice Department.  The President accepts \nresponsibility for this.  At the same time -- I mean, we just wanted \nto be very, very clear about how this happened and be as factual as \nwe could be on how the decisions were made.  It is the responsibility \nof those on the ground to make recommendations.  The Attorney General \nhas operational control over this.  The President obviously accepts \nresponsibility for all of this, and he stands by the Attorney \nGeneral.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  George, there was a report on the television today \n-- and I don't know more than that -- one of the members of the cult \nhad said going into a courthouse that the FBI had started the fire \nand not themselves.  There was also a picture yesterday on the TV of \na smashing into the building  where the fire broke out.  And my \nquestion is, is the White House absolutely certain that this fire was \n--\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  All the evidence we have is that \nthis fire was started by David Koresh and those inside the compound \n-- every bit of evidence we have.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Did the President ask the Attorney General why do \nthis now, why this particular date, and did he ask about possible \nconsequences of either death or injury?\n\f\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I don't know the specific \nquestions.  He had general questions about how the decision was going \nabout being made.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Those are general questions and did he ask \ngenerally, why now?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I think he asked, have you \nconsidered all of the consequences; have you considered the \nrecommendations?  I don't know if he asked the question, \"why now?  \"  \nI don't know if he asked that specific question.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Did she tell him why now in terms of the stuff \nthat's come out since then about the information provided by the \nlistening device about Koresh getting increasingly more violent?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Again, I'm not certain how much \nspecific detail they got into.  I know that she generally said that \nthis is the recommendation she's prepared to make, I mean, the \ndecision she's prepared to make.  It's based on the recommendations \nshe was receiving from the field and after intensive questioning of \nthose involved.  Again, I do not know how precisely detailed it was \nbeyond that.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What is the President's understanding why \nyesterday?  One of the people who went into the compound a couple \nweeks ago came out over the weekend with some speculation that he may \nhave told law enforcement people something that precipitated this \naction.  Why yesterday?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  This is the first I've heard.  I \nthink what we can go to is what the FBI and the Attorney General has \nsaid.  There were indications that those inside the compound were at \nsome danger.  It was clear that the negotiations had broken down and \nit was the judgment of the experts involved in the negotiations that \nthe situation was not going to get any better at all.  \n\t     \n\t     There was also some concern over the vulnerability of \nthe agents themselves who had been working long beyond the time that \nthese teams normally have to work.  And as the Attorney General has \nsaid, there was some concern over the fact that they did not have \nreplacements in place who could stand in for them, and there was a \nconcern over the safety.  \n\t     \n\t     All of these factors came into play.  They also \nconsidered the advice of a number of psychologists and other experts \non David Koresh and those in the compound.  I would just go back to \nwhat the Attorney General has said.  You have to make the best \njudgment you can, given the information you have at the time.  They \ndid.  Obviously, we all regret the loss of life.  It's a terribly \nunfortunate situation.  We all wish it could have turned out \ndifferently, but that doesn't take away from the judgments that were \nmade at the time.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  George, when did the President know that they were \ngoing to use tear gas?  Was it before the assault on the compound?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I just don't know.  I don't believe \nhe was given a lot of detail on exactly how the operation would go.  \nI just don't know.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Along that point, George, can you say whether the \nplan was presented to the President by the Attorney General as a way \nto end the standoff one way or the other yesterday?\n\t     \n\f\n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I think it was presented as a way \nto increase the pressure on those in the compound and, we all hoped, \nas a way to move some of those out and bring it in -- it wasn't \npresented as tomorrow is D-Day, this is it.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Is the President satisfied that, A, he had all this \nrelevant information necessary to make a decision, and B, that Janet \nReno had all the relevant information necessary to make a decision?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Oh, I think he's satisfied that \nthey were acting on the best advice and the best information they \nhad, and he's not second-guessing it in any way whatsoever.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  George, was there a 12-hour gap between \nconversations between the President and the Attorney General?  In \nother words, they spoke at 11:00 a.m. and they didn't speak again \nuntil Clinton got back from dinner at --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I think that's likely, yes.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Did he call her?  What time did she call?  Was \nthere a gap between when she called him?  I mean, was he at dinner \nwhen she called and --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  No, no, no.  I think he called her \nlast night.  I couldn't swear to it, but I believe he called her last \nnight.  He just wanted to talk to her.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t     what was going on?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Not that I know of, no.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What do you know about the situation now?  Everyone \nhas perished who -- except eight or nine?  And do you know any of the \nother details?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I don't know any more details than \nthe FBI reported in Waco.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t     watching CNN or how was he keeping track of what \nis going on?  If he wasn't talking to his Attorney General, how was \nhe keeping track of what was going on here?  I mean, with all due \nrespect to CNN, is that how he was doing it?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  No.  There was also -- as I said, \nseveral people in the White House were in constant contact with their \ncounterparts at Justice to have the full and complete information.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Who were those contacts?  I mean, was it Mack \nMcLarty, Webb Hubbell?  How was the President being kept informed?  \nThat's not a --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I believe Mack was in contact with \nWebb.  I spoke with several people at the Justice Department.  I \nbelieve Bruce Lindsey spoke with people at the Justice Department.  \nEither Bernie or Vince was also in contact at different times during \nthe day with people at the Justice Department.  We were fully briefed \nand fully informed.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  We were told this morning that the President may \nhave spoken -- a chance that he may have spoken with Webb.  Do you \nknow if that's true or not?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I think there's a chance he may \nhave.  I don't believe he did, but I think there's certainly a chance \nthat he may have at some point.  I don't believe he did.  I think \nthat the last contact he had during the day yesterday directly with \n\f\nthe Justice Department was the 11:00 a.m. phone call with the \nAttorney General.  But the White House was fully informed on a \nminute-to-minute basis of what was happening in Waco and what was \nhappening at the Justice Department.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  George, who decided that the briefing would be done \nby the Attorney General?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  The Attorney General.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Did you or did the White House communications staff \n-- were you ever involved with that decision?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  No.  We were told about it.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Did you ask her to go on Nightline and MacNeil-\nLehrer and all that stuff?  Was that part of --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  No.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t     there was no advice from the White House at all \nabout her -- she was on all night, all day.  (Laughter.)\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Yes, and she did a very good job. \n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Why did you decide to have the President's reaction \nto the situation be only a written statement, which is traditionally \nthe White House's way of distancing the President from the issue, not \nhaving him appear as personally saying anything?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Well, that wasn't the intent at \nall.  As I said, we had to -- we wanted to wait until we had all of \nthe information at hand.  The President is also making a statement \ntoday.  The President made a statement yesterday morning.  The \nPresident has been fully involved --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  After this turned into less than a successful \noperation, the only statement from the President was what was on \npaper after the Attorney General had already given what amounted to \nthe major facts in this.\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Well, it was the first statement \nfrom the President, not the only statement from the President, number \none.  \n\t     \n\t     Q\t  After the --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Number two -- well, the first.  \nNumber two, the Attorney General --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  He gave a statement early in the morning when the \nthing was starting to move --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Right.  And he gave one yesterday \nand he's giving one today.  Now, the second point --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  It just happens this was a written statement with \nno sort of communications policy or thought process involved?  It was \nthe President wants to put out a written statement?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Knowing what we knew at the time, \nwe thought it was appropriate for the President and he thought it was \nappropriate to put out a written statement expressing his regret and \nexpressing his support for the Attorney General's --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Why was it not appropriate for him to personally do \nsomething?\n\f\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Well, he did personally do so.  \nThat is his statement.  It's a statement under his name.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  George, yesterday during the briefing you didn't \nsay the President took full responsibility for what happened --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I certainly did.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  No, what you said was --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  That's just not right, Susan.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Well, I think you can go back to the transcript, I \nmean, unless I miss something --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I'd love to.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t     Janet Reno said that she took full \nresponsibility and you said that she made the decision, that the FBI \n--\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  And the President takes \nresponsibility.  Absolutely.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Took responsibility -- all right.\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Check the transcript.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Considering how little was known about what was \ngoing on inside the compound and, even now, how little is known, why \nis Washington calling this a mass suicide?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Well, I think that knowing what we \nknow now and given all of the actions of David Koresh before and \nduring, it is painfully clear that those there were under his \ncontrol.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  It's stretching it a little bit where the kids are \nconcerned, though, isn't it, George?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I think that that is an entirely \ndifferent matter.  I mean, I think that David Koresh must bear \nresponsibility for the deaths of those children, absolutely.  But he \nclearly was intent on creating some kind of an apocalyptic incident, \nand that's what he did.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  You're still operating completely on assumption, \nright?  I mean, you have no evidence, or you know of no evidence that \nthis was mass suicide.\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  We have evidence that those inside \nthe compound set fire to the compound, which led to the deaths of \nthose inside.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  I didn't quite hear it.  This might be Ann's \nquestion, I didn't quite hear it.  But at what time did Clinton \nhimself put out a statement on this?  I know Dee Dee said some stuff \non this at 6:00 p.m., but the President put out --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  At 6:35 p.m., 6:40 p.m.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Right after the evening news went on the air?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  No, right when we had all the \ninformation.  We were working on it.\n\t     \n\f\n\t     Q \t  Dee Dee confirmed this morning that the \ninvestigation the President is going to announce is going to be an \nadministration-run investigation.  Why not have someone from the \noutside to make sure that it's not colored by those who would have a \npolitical stake, particularly those at the ATF whose actions have \nalready been --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I think that clearly the ATF and \nthe Justice Department will bear responsibility for the \ninvestigation.  That's not to rule out, as is often in investigations \nlike this, having some sort of independent involvement as well.  But \nit will be run by the Treasury and Justice. \n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Are you confident that you will not have any \nproblem getting --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Absolutely.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  George, did the President reach out to anybody else \nto get advice after the meeting with Janet Reno?  And who else in the \nWhite House sat in on that meeting?  Anyone else from Justice?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I don't believe anybody else was \nthere at the time.  It was a phone call on Monday, it wasn't a \nmeeting.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Sunday.\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Sunday.  It was a phone call, it \nwasn't a meeting.  I believe he might have been there with Bruce, but \nbeyond that, I think he just talked to the Attorney General.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  George, you said that in that phone call, she said \nthat we want to go in and take action, as you said, that will force \nhim out.  What did he think she was talking about?  If he didn't know \nabout tear gas, what exactly was his idea of what he was approving?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I think he was approving an action \nto increase the pressure on --\n\t     \n\t     q\bQ\t   It didn't matter how she did that?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  No, no.  I mean --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What information did he have in terms of how this \nwould proceed?  Presumably he would have wanted to know, not minute-\nby-minute, but in a general sense --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I think he knew that this was the \nrecommendation of those on the ground and the recommendation of the \nlaw enforcement agencies.  I just don't know --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What is \"this\" -- when you say that \"this\" was the \nrecommendation --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  The action to increase pressure.  I \ndon't know exactly what he was told -- whether he was going to be \ntold that the tank was going to go up to the left wall and punch a \nhole in the window, or whether he was just told generally that they \nwere moving forward in a way that would increase the pressure.  I \njust don't know.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  It's hard to imagine him not asking, though.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t     that Janet Reno presented him with as her best \nadvice about what they should go forward with, he would have agreed?\n\t     \n\f\n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  He was -- he did ask some general \nquestions about the advice and recommendation he gave.  At the same \ntime -- and I would repeat -- that this was based on the unanimous \nrecommendation of the law enforcement agencies involved.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  George, it would seem that this question about just \nexactly in what detail the President was informed about the nature of \nthe operation is going to come up again here and elsewhere.  Can you \ntake that question and --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Absolutely.  Yes.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t     get the answer and come back to us with all of \nit?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Yes.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Can you tell us that there was never a meeting -- a \nstrategy session -- where you and others decided, we will put out a \nwritten statement from the President and we will have Janet Reno be \non all of these television broadcasts?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Never.  Never.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  And you never called the Justice Department and \nsaid to anyone or Janet Reno, \"you're the one who needs to be out \nfront explaining this\"?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Not once.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  It just happened that way that she was the \nspokesman, that no one ever saw Bill Sessions until --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  She made a decision as Attorney \nGeneral that it was important for her as the operational officer in \ncharge, as the person who made the decision, to go out and take the \nquestions on this tragic incident.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  She had no guidance from the White House at all?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  We certainly didn't object.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  But did you -- (laughter) -- no, I'm sure you \ndidn't object, but did you suggest it?  Was this a plan --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  No. Absolutely not.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t     a strategy?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  No.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Did she clear it?  \n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  No.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Did she notify you?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  We certainly knew about it.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What happened to this great detailed process you \nhave for clearing and talking to every public information officer and \nevery -- under every rock and every place in government that \nsomething as major as this could have occurred without a discussion \nbetween you and the public information people at least at the Justice \nDepartment?\n\t     \n\f\n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  The Attorney General made the \ndecision and the Attorney General wanted to go forward.  It seemed \nlike a good decision.  It was a good decision.  She did a good job.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Let me ask it this way, George, if in hindsight how \nyou would handle it?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I think it was handled very well.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  You wouldn't change a thing if --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Change what?\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  The way the White House handled any part of it -- \nfrom start to finish.\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Well, I think that's an awful broad \nquestion and we're certainly going to have a review.  One of the \nreasons for the investigation is to look for ways in the future that \nsomething like this -- see what we can learn from an incident like \nthis and see what we can learn about how to handle them.  If you're \ntalking specifically about the issue of the press conferences, no, \nthere -- wouldn't make any change at all.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Two questions:  First of all, on her going on TV, \nno White House people or outside media consultants came up with this \nidea?  It's just very reminiscent of what you guys did during the \ncampaign.\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  How so?\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  I'm thinking of like watching Clinton on Nightline \nafter the draft story; watching Clinton on --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  There's absolutely no comparison.  \nYesterday there was a law enforcement incident.  The incident ended \nin tragic deaths of many, many people.  The Attorney General was \ninvolved in that decision.  The Attorney General made the decision to \ndo that.  She felt it was her responsibility in the interest of \npublic information to go out and take the questions of the press in \norder to make sure that all of the questions were answered, and she \ndid a fantastic job.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  The second question is, did -- as someone who knows \nClinton as well as you do, can you understand why it's sort of hard \nto believe that he might not have asked some detailed questions about \nwhat she intended to do?  In other words, she came and she said, I'm \ngoing to put pressure on them.  It's hard not to see Clinton, who's \nfairly intelligent and inquisitive, asking how.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  What kind?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Both the Attorney General said that \nhe did ask questions, he did ask general questions.  I don't have a \nminute-by-minute account of the conversation.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  How long a conversation?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I think it was about 15 minutes.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Telephone conversation?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Yes.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  George, was the federal cost of this standoff ever \na consideration in terms of stepping up the pressure --\n\t     \n\f\n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I don't believe so, no.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  George, you keep saying that the President takes \nfull responsibility, but then you refer to it as her decision.  Does \nthe President not accept the fact that as Commander-In-Chief, it is \nultimately his decision?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I don't know what this has to do \nwith Commander-In-Chief.  This was a law enforcement action, not a \nmilitary action.  And he clearly takes responsibility for the \ndecisions of the law enforcement agencies involved taken in his \ngovernment.  I mean, I think there's just no ambiguity about that.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  But is he accepting it as his decision as well as \nhers, or is he saying it's her decision?  There's a difference.\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  As a matter of fact, it was her \ndecision.  He did not object to that decision.  He clearly takes full \nresponsibility. \n\t     \n\t     Q\t  George, this briefing has gone on just a little \nover 15 minutes, and as you can see a lot of things can be exchanged.  \nWhat exactly did they spend 15 minutes talking about if it was just \nvery general?  That's a long period of time in a phone conversation.\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  It is an awful long phone \nconversation.  It was a very important phone conversation.  I think \nBrit has asked that we take the question, and I've said that I would.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  One of the things Reno said last night is that the \nbuck stops here.  I think that was her direct quotation.  Does the \nPresident agree with that in this case?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  The President says he accepts full \nresponsibility.  I think what the Attorney General was saying is that \nshe made a decision, that she's going to accept all the \nresponsibility that comes to her.  And she's not shrinking from that \nat all, but neither is the President. \n\t     \n\t     Q\t  At any point in the conversation last night between \nthe President and the Attorney General or this morning, did she ever \noffer her a resignation?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Not to my knowledge. \n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Even before the fire was out yesterday, there were \nsome Republicans on Capitol Hill calling for an investigation.  Is \nthe White House at all concerned about the timing of those requests \ntrying to make political hay out of this situation?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  No.  And I don't want to cast any \nquestions about the motives of those who are requesting \ninvestigation.  We want an investigation, and we'll have a full and \ncomplete investigation.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  In what forum will you answer Brit's question?  \nWill you put out a written statement?  Will you -- the wires?  How \nwill you answer the question that you've taken?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I'm just not sure.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  George, can you remind us what the President was \ndoing all yesterday afternoon, where he was, and what meetings he was \ninvolved in?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I'll have to try and remember.  He \nhad a series of meetings with different members of the staff during \n\f\nthe afternoon.  He was certainly monitoring the situation in Waco and \ngetting periodic reports on that as well.  He did see some on CNN as \nwell.  I believe he saw a fair amount of the FBI press briefing as \nwell.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  And those reports would have come to him from Mack \nMcLarty, would they -- do you think?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Mack talked to him, Bruce talked to \nhim, I talked to him.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  George, to follow Helen's question, in their \nconversation this morning did they discuss at all her statement last \nnight in response to the question about whether she would resign?  \nDid he say, I don't know why you felt the need to say that?  I'm here \nto reassure you that you don't have to do this?  Did that come up at \nall?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I don't know if it even came up \nthat specifically.  I know that the bulk of the conversation was \ndiscussing where do we go from here and what form the investigation \n--\n\t     \n\t     Q\t   The didn't talk at all about her kind of \nremarkable comment last night about --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Well, I believe she was asked a \nquestion.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  And her response was, if the President wants me to, \nI will.\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Which would be, I think, the \nstandard response that most Cabinet members would give.  I mean, it's \na conditional statement.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t     have a need to talk about whether -- personally \nabout whether the President wanted her --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I don't know if they talked about \nit.  I mean, what I learned about the conversation was that it was \nlargely about the investigation itself.  And this just didn't come \nup.  I did not ask the question if they talked about --\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Will you take that with the Brit package?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Certainly.  (Laughter.)\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  George, for the record, does the President want her \nto resign?  I know Dee Dee answered this morning --\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Absolutely not.  He supports Janet \nReno.  She's a good Attorney General.  She's done a good job.  She \nhandled a difficult situation extremely well.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  George, does the President feel that he and Janet \nReno were let down by the unanimous professional advice from the law \nenforcement experts on the ground?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  No.  And the President is not \nsecond-guessing that decision and those recommendations in any way.  \nThat is not to say that he doesn't regret the loss of life.  \nEverybody regrets the loss of life in this situation.  But the best \njudgments were made in a difficult situation based on the best \ninformation we had.\n\t     \n\f\n\t     Q\t  George, the 15-minute conversation was the one on \nSunday, is that correct?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Yes.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  How long was the one at 11:00 a.m. yesterday \nmorning?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I don't know.  I'll take that \nquestion, too.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Were these outside experts that they were \nconsulting with, or experts within the ATF and the FBI?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  You'd have to ask them.  I'm just \nnot sure.  I know that there were several experts.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  And also, why weren't there replacements for these \npeople?  Is the unit that small?  \n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Again, I think it is a very small \nhighly-specialized unit.  But I think it's one of the kinds of things \nthat the investigation will examine.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  George, isn't there a factor here involving the FBI \nDirector?  Normally, a president, when he wants to get information, \ndoesn't only asks the Attorney General.  I know the chain of command.  \nBut presidents talk to their FBI directors.  In this case, throughout \nthis entire siege, he has not felt that he could pick up the phone \nand talk to Bill Sessions, who is from Waco, and get expertise from \nhim on what to do and what not to do?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  I think he talked to the FBI \nDirector well in the beginning of the situation when it first broke \nout in Waco.  At the same time, the Attorney General bears the \nultimate responsibility and he was getting fully briefed from the \nAttorney General.\n\t     \n\t     Q\t  Don't you think the ambiguous situation that \nDirector Sessions is in has some impact on the way the President is \nbriefed and on the way that all of this evolved?\n\t     \n\t     MR. STEPHANOPOULOS:  Not at all.  I mean, it's perfectly \nappropriate that he be briefed by the Attorney General and that the \nAttorney General has supervisory authority over the FBI Director, and \nthat's following the chain of command.\n\t     \n\t     THE PRESS:  Thank you .\n\n                                 END                    1:03 P.M. EDT","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nKK>    Newsgroups: sci.crypt\nKK>    From: sphughes@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Shaun P. Hughes)\nKK>    Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1993 07:18:59 GMT\n\n\n\t[..]\n\nKK>       Just a random passing thought, but can anyone cite a documented use\nKK>    of encryption technology by criminals and terrorists.\nKK>       (Excluding the Iran-Contra Gang)\n\nKK> Sure, the rum-runners in Prohibition. See Kahn's _The Codebreakers_.\nKK> The irony was, they were using better codes and key security than\nKK> most governments were.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"FULL 1993 CALDER CUP PLAYOFF SCHEDULE AND RESULTS\t\nhome team in CAPS\t\t*=if necesary\n\nFIRST ROUND\t\t\t\t\t\nSpringfield Indians vs Providence Bruins\nGm 1:\tSpringfield 3\tPROVIDENCE 2\t\nGm 2:\tSpringfield 5\tPROVIDENCE 4\nGm 3:\tProvidence 3\tSPRINGFIELD 2\nGm 4:\tProvidence 9\tSPRINGFIELD 0\t\t\nGm 5:\tSpringfield 4\tPROVIDENCE 2\nGm 6:\tSPRINGFIELD 4\tProvidence 3\n(SPRINGFIELD WINS SERIES, 4-2)\n\nCD Islanders vs Adirondack Red Wings\nGm 1:\tADIRONDACK 6\tCDI 2\nGm 2:\tADIRONDACK 5\tCDI 3\nGm 3:\tAdirondack 3\tCDI 0\nGm 4:\tAdirondack 3\tCDI 1\n(ADIRONDACK WINS SERIES, 4-0)\n\nBaltimore Skipjacks at Binghamton Rangers\nGm 1:\tBaltimore 4\tBINGHAMTON 3\t\nGm 2:\tBINGHAMTON 6\tBaltimore 2\nGm 3:\tBinghamton 8\tBALTIMORE 3\nGm 4:\tBALTIMORE 3\tBinghamton 1\t\nGm 5:\t4\/26\tBaltimore at Binghamton\t\nGm 6:\t4\/28\tBinghmaton at Baltimore\t\nGm 7:\t4\/30\tBaltimore at Binghamton\t*\n\t\t\nUtica Devils vs Rochester Americans\nGm 1:\tUtica 3\t\tROCHESTER 2\t(OT)\nGm 2:\tROCHESTER 9\tUtica 3\nGm 3:\tRochester 6\tUTICA 4\nGm 4:\tRochester 4\tUTICA 3\t\t(OT)\nGm 5:\tROCHESTER 3\tUtica 2\n(ROCHESTER WINS SERIES, 4-1)\n\nMoncton Hawks vs St John's Maple Leafs\nGm 1:\tSt JOHN'S 4\tMoncton 2\t(at Halifax)\nGm 2:\tST JOHN'S 3\tMoncton 2\t(at Halifax)\nGm 3:\tSt John's 6\tMONCTON 5\nGm 4:\tMONCTON 5\tSt John's 4\t(OT)\nGm 5:\t4\/26\tMoncton vs St John's at Halifax\t\nGm 6:\t4\/28\tSt John's at Moncton\t\t*\nGm 7:\t4\/30\tMoncton vs St John's at Halifax\t*\n\nCape Breton Oilers vs Fredericton Canadiens\nGm 1:\tFREDERICTON 4\tCape Breton 3\t(2OT)\nGm 2:\tCape Breton 5\tFREDERICTON 2\nGm 3:\tCAPE BRETON 3\tFredericton 0\t\nGm 4:\tCAPE BRETON 6\tFredericton 5 \t(OT)\nGm 5:\tCape Breton won","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nI wouldn't and don't.  I thought I did a pretty good job of\nqualifying my statement, but apparently some people\nmisinterpreted my intentions.  I apologize for my part in\ncommunicating any confusion.  My intent was more to\nstir up discussion rather than judge.   It seems to\nhave worked.\n\n[rest of post noted - by the way, I did not originally post this to\nalt.atheism.  If it got there, I don't know how it did.]\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThe answer to your second question lies in the way you phrased the\nfirst one:  'the media is...'.\n\nThe medis isn't 'is'.  The media 'are'.  'Media' means 'more than one\nmedium.'  There are thousands of publications.  Some say this, some say\nthat.  \n\n     How can the bulk of the people be informed, when they won't read\n     informative publications?","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\nStart the renamed saver vid the commandline option \/s.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Radius 24X accelerated graphics adaptor. Supports multiple resolutions and\nallows on-the-fly changing of resolution or bit depth. MSRP $1999, street\nprice $1700, your price: best offer over $800.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"The following is what they feed to us..... most has been posted already,\nbut there are a number of items not seen here yet.....\n\nRedesign Activities Update -- Following is the weekly status on redesign,\nbased on information provided by NASA headquarters.\n\nThe station Redesign Team (SRT) provided a detailed status report to the\nAdvisory Committee on the Redesign of the Space Station on April 22.  The\nday-long meeting was held in ANSER facilities in Crystal City, VA; topics\ncovered by the SRT included a preliminary mission and goals statement for\nthe space station; science, technology and engineering research; the\nassessment process; and the design approach. Discussions on management\noptions and operations concepts also were held.\n\nThe Design Teams then presented the three options under study:\n\n\u00a5 Option A - Modular Buildup -- Pete Priest presented the A option. Priest\nsaid the team is working to define a station that meets cost goals and has\nidentified three distinct phases of evolution - power station, human tended\nand permanent presence. The team will define the minimum capability needed\nto achieve each phase, the total cost of each phase and the achievable\ncapability for budget levels. The A option uses current or simplified\nFreedom hardware where cost effective and is considering other existing\nsystems such as the so-called \"Bus-1 spacecraft,\" the orbiter and Spacelab.\n\nThe Power Station Capability could be achieved in 3 flights with Freedom\nphoto voltaic modules providing 20 kW of power. 30-day Shuttle\/Spacelab\nmissions docked to the power station are assumed for this phase.\n\nHuman Tended Capability would be provided by the addition of the U.S.\nCommon Module Module which adds subsystems and 9 payload racks and docking\nports for ESA and Japanese laboratories. 60-day missions with the orbiter\ndocked to the station are assumed for this phase. Different\noperation\/utilization modes are being studied for this phase.\n\n\u00a5 Option B - Freedom Derived -- Mike Griffin presented the status of Option\nB activities. Griffin detailed the evolution of the Freedom-derived option,\nfrom initial Research Capability, to Human-Tended Capability, to Permanent\nHuman Presence Capability, to Two Fault Tolerance, and finally Permanent\nHuman Capability. Griffin also outlined proposed systems changes to the\nbaseline program, with minor changes to the Communications and Tracking\nsystem, Crew Health Care System and ECLSS, and a major change to the Data\nManagement System.\n\nInitial Research Capability would be achieved with 2 flights to 28.5 degree\ninclination (3 flights to 51.6 degrees) and consist of an extended duration\norbiter-Spacelab combination docked to a truss segment with 2 photo voltaic\narrays providing 18.75 kW of power.\n\nHuman-Tended Capability would be achieved in 6 flights and add truss\nsegments and the U.S. lab.\n\nPermanent Human Presence Capability would be achieved in 8 flights with two\norbiters providing habitation and assured crew return.\n\nTwo Fault Tolerance, achieved in 11 flights, would build out the other\nsection of truss with another set of PV modules, thermal control and\npropulsion systems.\n\nThe freedom derived configuration could achieve an International Complete\nstate with 16 flights.  Three more flights, to bring up the habitat module,\na third PV array and two Assured Crew Return Vehicles (ACRV) would complete\nthe Permanent Human Capability with International stage.\n\nGriffin told the Redesign Advisory Committee that eliminating hardware\nwould not, by itself, meet budget guidelines for the Freedom derived\noption.  Major reductions or deferrals must occur in other areas including\nprogram management, contractor non-hardware, early utilization and\noperations costs, he said.\n\n\u00a5 Option C - Singe Launch Core Station -- Chet Vaughn presented Option C,\nthe Single Launch Core Station concept.  A Shuttle external tank and solid\nrocket boosters would be used  to launch the station into orbit.  Shuttle\nmain engines would be mounted to the tail of the station module for launch\nand jettisoned after ET separation.\n\nThe module, 23 feet in diameter and 92 feet long, would provide 26,000\ncubic feet of pressured volume, separated into 7 \"decks\" connected by a\ncentralized passageway.  Seven berthing ports would be located at various\nplaces on the circumference of the module to place the international\nmodules, and other elements.  This \"can\" would have two fixed photo voltaic\narrays producing approximately 40 kW of power flying in a solar interial\nattitude.\n\nIn his closing comments to the Redesign Advisory Committee, Bryan O'Connor\nsaid a design freeze would be established for the 3 options on April 26 so\nthat detailed costing of the options can begin.  The next meeting with the\nRedesign Advisory Committee will be May 3.\n\nRussian Consultants Arrive in U.S. -- A delegation of 16 Russian space\nexperts arrived in the U.S. on April 21 and briefings to the SRT by members\nof the Russian team began on the 22nd.  The group includes Russian Space\nAgency General Director Y. M. Koptev, and V. A. Yatsenko, also of the RSA. \nOthers on the team include representatives from the Ministry of Defense,\nthe Design Bureau SALYUT, the Institute of Biomedical Problems, the\nMinistry of Foreign Affairs, NPO Energia and TsNIJMASH.  The Russian team\nbriefed the SRT on environmental control and life support system, docking\nsystems, the Proton launch vehicle, Mir operations and utilization, and the\nSoyuz TM spacecraft.\n\nThe Russian consultants are available to the SRT to assess the capabilities\nof the Mir space station, and the possible use of Mir and other Russian\ncapabilities and systems as part of the space station redesign.  They will\nbe available to the SRT through May 5.\n\nManagement and Operations Review Continues --  Work continued in the SRT\nsubgroups.  The Management Group under Dr. Walt Brooks is working to\ndevelop a family of options that solve the current problems and build a\nfoundation for the transition to development and operations.  Various\nmanagement options have been developed including:\n\n\u00a5 Lead Center with the Center Director in the programmatic chain of\ncommand.\n\n\u00a5 Host Center with the Program Manager reporting directly to an Associate\nAdministrator.\n\n\u00a5 Skunk Works\/Dedicated Program Office with a small dedicated co-located\nhand-picked program office.\n\n\u00a5 Combine Space Station with Shuttle, with the space station becoming an\nelement of the current program.\n\n\u00a5 Major Tune Up to Current Organization, with current contracts and\ngeographical distribution maintained but streamlined.\n\nThe Operations Group under Dr. John Cox is building on the work of the\nOperations Phase Assessment Team lead by Gene Kranz of NASA-JSC, which had\nalready begun a comprehensive review of operations and had concluded in its\npreliminary results that significant cost reductions are possible.\n\nAs part of its work,  the Operations Group has identified teams of agency\nexperts to develop detailed evaluations of each design in the areas of\nassembly and operations, utilization, maintenance and logistics and testing\nand ground operations.\n\nWhat's in the Week Ahead? -- The Design Support Teams will provide a\ncomprehensive status of their option to the Station Redesign Team on Monday\nand Tuesday at which point the design will be \"frozen\" to begin the\ndetailed cost assessment.   Also this week, the team will begin preparing\nfor the next round of discussions with the redesign Advisory Committee, to\nbe held May 3.\n\nDr. Shea Steps Down --  Dr. Joe Shea stepped down as director of the\nStation Redesign Team on April 22 and Bryan O'Connor will take over the\nactivities of the team.  Dr. Shea submitted his resignation as assistant\ndeputy administrator for space station analysis, but will continue to serve\nas a special advisory to NASA Administrator Goldin and be available to\nconsult with the SRT. Mr Goldin accepted the resignation so that a request\nfrom Dr. Shea to reduce his workload could be accommodated.\n\nKey Milestones -- The key dates for the SRT as they are currently being\ncarried on the schedule are:\n\nApril 26\nDesign Freeze on Options for Costing\n\nApril 27\nDesign Support Team Present Selected Options to SRT\n\nMay 3\nStatus report to Redesign Advisory Committee\n\nMay 15\nInterim report by Redesign Advisory Committee\n\nJune 7\nFinal report to Redesign Advisory Committee\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"From article <1993May12.111030@IASTATE.EDU>, by jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan):\n\n\n\tFirst of all, this is NOT a strife; this is a massacre of innocent\n\tMoslem poeples by the Christian West.\n\n\tSince Ottoman lost the control of Balkans, many tens and hundereds\n\tof millions of Muslem peoples (Turks, Albanians, Bosnians, and others) \n\thave been tortured, raped, massacred, and driven out of their homes\n\tby the Cristians of both the region and Europe. Some lucky ones \n\tescaped to relative safety in Turkiye. The remaining others are being \n\tfinished now by local Christians, the USA, and the rest of Europe.\n\n\tThe Christian West is maintaining a tight arms ambargo on the Muslem\n\tpeoples of Bosnia so they cannot deffend themslves while letting \n\tChristian Serbs and Croats torture, rape, and massacre the innocent \n\tMoslem peoples of Bosnia.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nIf a Christian means someone who believes in the divinity of Jesus, it is safe\nto say that Jesus was a Christian.\n--\n\"On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Leftover Turkey!\nOn the second day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Turkey Casserole\n    that she made from Leftover Turkey.\n[days 3-4 deleted] ...  Flaming Turkey Wings! ...\n   -- Pizza Hut commercial (and M*tlu\/A*gic bait)","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I know, you all were saying \"Ha!  The Braves score a few runs for \nMaddux, that'll shut that guy up.\"\n\nBut no,  I think we'll just keep track a bit longer...\n\nLast  outing: 5 runs.\n\nTotal to date:  8 runs, 4 games\n\nBraves record in Maddux's starts:  2-2\n\nSee ya next time.\n\nDennis","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I have done several of these upgrades (about 6 IIsi's, and 1 Quadra 700), and\nthe best thing to use would be some sort of \"heat sink compound\". If possible,\nyou should look for the silicon-free stuff. There's a comany who makes the stuff\ncalled Tech Spray, their address is: P.O. Box 949, Amarillo, TX 79105.\n\nYou should be wary in using most kinds of tape; and definately don't use duct\ntape \u001c that stuff is for ducts...\n\nWhen using the heat sink glue or compound, only use enough to fill the small\nspace between the heat sink and the CPU.\n\nMario Murphy","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I need a little help from a Texas Rangers expert.\n\nI was at Yankee Stadium Sunday (12-2 Texas rout) with my kids.  We\nwandered out to the outfield during Rangers batting practice and\nI caught a ball tossed into the stands (actually wrestled some guy\na bit, I might add) by #62 on the Rangers.  Who is he?  Looked like\na bullpen assistant type, youngish I think.  He was not in the\nroster listed in the Yankee scorecard.  Any ideas?\n\nPlease e-mail as I haven't been reading r.s.b regularly.\n\nThanks.\n- Bob","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n[bible verses ag.\/ used ag. homosexuality deleted]\n\n\nalso check out the episcopal church -- although by no means all\nepiscopalians are sympathetic to homosexual men and women, there\ncertainly is a fairly large percentage (in my experience) who are.  i\nam good friends with an episcopalian minister who is ordained and\nliving in a monogamous homosexual relationship.  this in no way\ndiminishes his ability to minister -- in fact he has a very\nsignificant ministry with the gay and lesbian association of his\ncommunity, as well as a very significant aids ministry.\n\nmy uncle is gay and when i found this out i had a good long think\nabout what the bible has to say about this and what i feel God thinks\nabout this.  obviously my conclusions may be wrong; nonetheless they\nare my own and they feel right to me.  i believe that the one\nimportant thing that those who wrote the old and new testament\npassages cited above did NOT know was that there is scientific\nevidence to support that homosexuality is at least partly _inherent_\nrather than completely learned.  this means that to a certain extent\n-- or to a great extent -- homosexuals cannot choose how to feel about\nother people -- which is why reports of \"curing\" homosexuals always\nchill me and make me feel ill.  please not that, although i can't cite\nsources where you can find this information, there is homosexual\nbehavior recorded among monkeys and other animals, which is in itself\nsuggestive that it is inherent rather than learned, or at least that\nthe word \"unnatural\" shouldn't really apply....\n\nplease remember that whatever you believe, gays and lesbians shoul not\nbe excluded from your love and acceptance.  christ loved us all, and\nwe ALL sin.  and he himself never said anything against homosexuals --\nrather it is paul (who also came out with such wonderful wisdom as\n\"women shouldn't speak in church\" and \"women should keep their heads\ncovered in church\" -- not exact quotations as i don't have my bible\nhandy) who says these things.  i have a tendency to take some of the\nthings paul says with a grain of salt....\n\nwell, that's all i'll say for now.\n\n\nvera noyes","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nDon Alvarez posted a good partial solution to this problem to\ncomp.risks.  I'll present my variant on it instead, since I feel it's a\nbit stronger against some likely attempts to cheat.  depends on the\nprotocol that's followed for reading traffic.  Briefly, the cops get a\nwiretap warrant, and record the call.  They then notice the encryption\nand the disclosure header.  It, along with a copy of their warrant, is\nsent to the FBI, or whoever it is who holds the family key.  The\nF-holder decrypts the header, and sends the serial number N and the\nencrypted session key U[K] to the escrow agents.  They, in turn, use U1\nand U2 to recover K, and send that to the local police.\n\nNote how this solves the problem of wiretapping forever.  Neither the\ncops nor the FBI ever see U, so they can't read other traffic.  Every\nrequest must be validated by both the FBI and the escrow agents.  The\ncops and the FBI together can't cheat, since they don't have U.  (I\nregard that as a likely pairing of folks who might try to beat the\nsystem.  It's to prevent this that I modified Alvarez's scheme.)  The\nescrow agents can't read the conversation, since they don't have it;\nall they have is N and U[K].  And the police don't even see N.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\nBut this is all gun control laws end up doing.  Politicians can never\nmanage to get a handle on those who obtain arms illegally, so all their\nlaws can ever do is further restrict people who obtain them legally.\n\nKaren McNutt, a local attorney, states that there are about two MILLION\nlicensed gun owners in Massachusetts.  In the past year, the number of\nlicensed gun owners involved in gun crimes was something like SIX.\nYet, there were a large number of gun crimes in the state last year.\n\nDoes passing laws that will further restricting only those people ALREADY\nobeying laws pay any dividents?\n\n\nSo far, I've seen them treated with the least respect by legislators.\n\n\nSee, this is what I call the \"argument from religion:\" \"I believe.\"  Don't\nbelieve -- it's not NECESSARY to take this on faith.  Go look at the history\nof countries that passed gun restrictions.  Pay particular attention to\nwhether or not violent crime was HIGHER before the restrictions and LOWER\nafter.  (Don't look at \"violent gun crimes,\" that's begging the question.)\nYou may be very surprised.\n\n\nYou have this absolutely backwards.  If crime stopped in the presence of\nstrict gun control, there is NO WAY I would consider lifting any of it.\nHowever, if gun control made absolutely NO IMPROVEMENT in the violent \ncrime rate, THAT'S when I would have it lifted.  Think about it.\n\nSo far, none of the stats show any improvement...\n\n\nDo you really think driver's tests are any indication of your propensity\nfor having accidents?  \n\nI've never known anybody stupid enough to take a driving test while \ndrunk; after having been up all night; with two fighting kids in the \nback seat; with a hot cup of coffee on their lap; or while putting on \nmakeup, reading the newspaper, or talking on their cellular phone.  \nBut that's what they're doing when they have those accidents.\n\n\nHow can anything that has no positive effect at all ever be \"necessary?\"\n\n\nAnd it didn't help, any of it.\n\n\nI'm sorry, I don't remember any story where Winnie the Pooh was\noffered weapons.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Poor Phill Hallam-Baker.  The tremors are getting worse, and his\nstratospheric typing skills can no longer keep up.  [spelling flame or\nreal sympathy - only his hairdresser knows for sure]\n\n[Official Mossad policy: we don't stop until we get Disneyland!]","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
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{"text":"\n*sigh*\n\nIt is standard procedure to suspend law enforcement officers, or re-assign\nthem to administrative (non enforcement) duties, while an investigation\ninto possible misconduct is going on. The Administration has given no\nindication that such suspensions will occur in this case. And given that\nthe president, attorney general and governor were all involved in the\ndecisions that led to the Waco Massacre, they should also suspend all\nactivities regarding law enforcement. Given their positions, that equates\nto an enforced vacation.\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nThough you can certaily assert all this, I don't see why it necessarily\nhas to be the case. Why can't hate just stay as it is, and not beget more?\nWho says we have to get disgusted and start hating the sinner. I admit\nthis happens, but I donlt think you can say it is always necessaily\nso.\n\nWhy can we not hate with a perfect hatred?\n\n\nCertainly we should love even our enemies. Amos 5:15 says to hate the evil\nand love the good. This can't contradict Christ's teaching. I think we tie\nup both hate and love with an emotional attitude, when it really should be\nconsidered more objectively. Surely I don't fly into a rage at every sin\nI see, but why can I not \"hate\" it?","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nYour doubts are unsubstantiated, have some faith in us..\n\n\n\n\nYes I agree..  Lets say I call my self a XXX.  I go and shoot your family \nin cold blood.  Does that mean that XXX is responsible? No.  I am.\nPeople tend to associate others with color\/creed\/etc.. it is a form of racism.\n\n\n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n1) It fixes some problems with MicroProse games.  After leaving F-15 III it\nwould, in vain, try to find a floppy in drive A:.  This has been fixed.  I\ndon't know what other corrections were made.\n\n2) It comes with an image of the original, in case things don't work.\n\n3) Download glb05.exe.  Format a bootable floppy disk, and don't put a\nconfig.sys or autoexec.bat.  Run the self extracting archive so all the files\nexplode to the disk.  Run the file fsh.exe.  It should be self-explanatory from\nthere.\n\nDan\n\nP.S.:  I was feeling extraordinarily generous once again, so I uploaded the\nfile to ftp.cica.indiana too..\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI've always heard them referred to \"horizontally opposed\"...\n\nJoe\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\tNo way -- gotta be Walter Johnson.  All were with Washington.\nCarlton spent too long in St. Louis to collect less than 700 there.\n\n\n\tI'd also guess Hough due to his length of tenure though I suspect \nBobby Witt wasn't far behind.  Maybe even Jenkins snuck in close....\n\n\n\tFingers had to have achieved 100 with either MIL or with SD so, yes,\nI'd go with that guess.  Otherwise I was thinking that Reardon has a better\nchance of having 100 with MIN along with (I would think) easily reaching 100 \nwith MON.\n\n\n\tGotta be Willie Mays...I am fairly sure he had over 300 steals in his\ncareer.\n\n\n\tHmmm...Leary is a really good point.  I'd forgotten about him.  Well,\nif nothing else, there are plenty of ex-Met pitchers in the category of\n\"could have lost to all teams\" -- Koosman, Leary, Torrez, Ryan, Seaver....\nI guess the best three guesses would be Leary, Ryan, and either Seaver or\nKoosman.\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Tim Shippert recently posted summaries of last year's Defensive Average\nstats in terms of the Linear Weights estimated run-value of defensive\nperformances, compared to league average.  I've combined those with my\nposition-adjusted MLV numbers to come up with first-approximation total\nrun values for players last year.  We can use these as a springboard for\nreconsideration of the MVP award.\n\nMajor caveats:  these numbers include no defensive park adjustment, so if\nSan Diego really is just a question of odd scoring or gopher holes in the\ninfield, that will cause some inaccuracies.  The offensive numbers are\nposition-adjusted, but not park adjusted, so we have to deflate some and\ninflate others to be fair.  Finally, we still don't know what to do about\ncatchers, and I have no idea how to evaluate the defensive contributions \nof Tony Phillips and Bip Roberts.  \n\nHaving said that, there are still some surprises.  Let's look National\nLeague first.  All numbers in total runs contributed over the season.\n\n\tPlayer\t\tOffense\t\tDefense\t\tTotal\n\n\tSandberg\t  44\t\t  32\t\t 76\n\tBonds\t\t  67\t\t   3\t\t 70\n\tWalker\t\t  26\t\t  26\t\t 52\n\tJustice\t\t  14\t\t  33\t\t 47\n\tDaulton\t \t  44\t\t  ??\t\t 44+?\n\tLarkin\t\t  36\t\t   4\t\t 40\n\tGrace\t\t  13\t\t  27\t\t 40\n\nAs I see it, these are the legitimate MVP candidates from last season.\nIf you deflate Sandberg's offense a wee bit for playing in Wrigley, you\nget essentially a dead heat.  Had Bonds been his usual defensive self, it\nwouldn't have been close, but that apparently wasn't the case.  Darren\nDaulton needs 22 or more defensive runs to make up the offensive difference,\nand I couldn't tell you whether that's easy or impossible.  A good case \ncould be made for any of Sandberg, Bonds, or Daulton as top dude.\n\nMy personal vote:  Bonds, Sandberg, Daulton, Walker, Justice.\n\n\nIn the American League:\n\n\tPlayer\t\tOffense\t\tDefense\t\tTotal\n\n\tVentura\t\t  22\t\t  34\t\t 56\n\tMartinez\t  47\t\t  -1\t\t 46\n\tB. Anderson \t  21\t\t  25\t\t 46\n\tThomas\t\t  47\t\t  -5\t\t 42\n\tR. Henderson\t  25\t\t  16\t\t 41\n\tRaines\t\t  17\t\t  23\t\t 40\n\tTettleton\t  33\t\t  ??\t\t 33+?\n\nOK, let's see a show of hands: how many of you picked Robin Ventura as top\nplayer in the AL last year?  I certainly didn't, but I'd have a hard time\narguing against him at this point.  Yes, I know these numbers are only\napproximate, but that's a big gap between him and the #2 guy.  Also, those\nof you who thought Rickey Henderson stank last year are out of your minds.\n\nOnce again, there's a catcher in the ointment.  If calling a game is as\nimportant as it might be, 23 runs is easy to make up (or give away).  TAke\na guess, folks; I don't think we can do any better than that.\n\nMy personal vote (excluding pitchers):\n\n\tVentura, Tettleton, Anderson, Martinez, Henderson.\n\nI'm a big Frank Thomas fan, but I have to admit to a bias in favor of\nbalanced offensive\/defensive contribution, which should have a higher\nleverage in W\/L record than an equal shift that is lots of offense with\nnegative defense.\n\nFor the record:\n\n\tCarlos Baerga\t\t  27\t\t  5\t\t  32\n\tRoberto Alomar\t\t  35\t\t -2\t\t  33\n\nForget it; it's a wash.\n\nLet me also take this opportunity to admit that I was grossly wrong regarding\nDon Mattingly's defense this past season.  Don recovered brilliantly from his\nweak '90 and '91 to end up with\n\n\tMattingly\t\t  -1\t\t  17\t\t  16 runs\n\nwhich is clearly an above-average first baseman.  However, it's still 18 runs\nbehind Mark McGwire, 26 runs behind Frank Thomas, and 7 runs behind John\nOlerud.  On the other hand, it's ahead of Rafael Palmeiro, Cecil Fielder, and\nevery other AL first baseman not yet mentioned.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Did anyone happen to see Peter Gammons on ESPN last night?  He addressed\nthis exact issue, and dismissed it rather quickly.  According to Gammons,\nadvanced scouts are reporting that Morris' fastball and slider still have\nthe same zip and that his problems this year are due to his sudden inability\nto keep the ball hidden during his release.  Guzman and Stottlemyre have\ngone through similar stretches that have been cleared up succinctly by a\nlittle work with the pitching coach.  Gammons looks to see Morris back in\ntop form within the month.\n\nI, on the other hand, still have my doubts.  Morris' ERA last year was\nrather high for a pitcher who won 20 games.  His showing in the Series was\nnot surprising.  Although I'm not convinced that he's washed up, I have my\ndoubts as to whether or not he can ever regain the form he had for the\nTwins in '91.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nYou are in the village. Many happy returns! Be seeing you!","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Hi.\n\nI'm not sure what the other guy (can't track down his post for his name)\nwas talking about when he made the claim that cobralinks are not adjustable.\nThey are.  There's a space between each link where the \"teeth\" of the \nlocking head notch in.  Thus, each link is a possible locking point.\n\nAlso, (and this is not applicable to hard-core thieves who cart around\nliquid nitrogen and oxy-acetylene torches) the cobralinks \"LOOK\" a lot\nmore effective than kryptonite cable locks (IMHO) and I think the initial\nappearance effect is more relevant to bored-joyriders-nominally-adept-at-\ncracking-unsecured-bike deterrence, as long as the lock is nominally \nfunctional.\n\nFinally, I notice that when I ride with my leathers, harness boots, and\nthe cobralinks slung across like a bandolier (BTW, I've crashed in the rain\ndressed like this and the lock didn't pulverize any vertebrae), cagers give\nme a much wider berth, don't hassle me, and tend to avoid any potentially\ninflammatory action at stoplights.\n\nI love my cobralinks almost as much as I love my pre-80's Honda dinosaur.\n(I think I have a pavlovian drool reflex-I put the lock on (i.e., on my\nbody) and I can feel the bike already shaking away).\n\nMy first post.  What did I do wrong :)?\n\nsang\nDoD #0846\n'80 CX500\n\np.s. any other CX500 owners out there?  Please e-mail me. Got \nquestions about the weird handling on my bike.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nActually, this strife in Yugoslavia goes back a long way. Bosinan Muslims,\nin collaboration with the Nazis, did to Serbians after the first world\nwar what Serbs are doing to Muslims now. This is not a fresh case of\nethnic cleansing but just another chapter in the continuing saga\nof intense mutual hatred, destruction,... Not taking sides in this\nperpetual war does not amount to religious bigotry. It could just\nbe helplessness with regards to bringing peace to a region that does\nnot even know the meaning of the word.\n\nSatya Prabhakar","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"The Waco\/Whacko Bar-B-Q caused me to remember an official explanation\nfrom the Vietnam War.  The 90s, liberal version is:\n\n    \"It was necessary to incinerate the children in order to save them.\"","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nThis is a tricky situation; if the previous owner didn't inform\nthe dealer of the odometer change, then the previous owner committed\nfraud, and he may be liable. The dealer may also be liable; If the\nprevious owner notified the dealer, or if the previous owner had the \ndash replaced at a dealer, or if the previous owner had the dash changed \nlegally, any records search on the car should turn up the fact that\nthe odometer had been altered.  If a dealer changes the speedometer, he has\nto report it (it goes into the car's service record with the manufacturer,\nand on the title, if I remember correctly; the dealer told me that\nthe old mileage, etc. were sent to Ford when my T-Bird's speedo \nwas replaced). If the odometer can be set to the old mileage, it must \nbe; if it can't (eg, electrically-driven odometers) then the mileage \nof the old odometer must be written on a permanent sticker which is \naffixed to the door frame of the vehicle. \n\nEither way, if the change had been done legally, then a records search\n(which the dealer almost certainly did) should have turned it up.\n\nCall your state's Department of Transportation\/Public Safety\/Motor\nVehicles--or your tag agent--to find out for certain what your\nrights are. Your state's Attorney General will know for certain ;-)\n\n\t\t\t\tJames","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"If available please send to\nGlen Moore\nDirector\nScience Centre\nWollongong, Australia\nfax: 61 42 213151   email: gkm@cc.uow.edu.au\n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I have been scanning and trying to read the articles in the sci.crypt area,\nbut what do I get?   SURPRISINGLY, the blurb comes upon the screen \" file xxx\nhas either been cancelled or expired.       Now I ask you, If it expired,\nwouldn't it be out of the available file cache?\nI am 32 and not a paranoid, but the older I get, the greater my cynicism of\nboth federal and state governments becomes.    \nThe censorship  of this Internet (and it is no less than censorship [stupid me, it's the GOVT.])\nis ridiculous.  The Japanese have far outstripped our ciphertechnology,  and \nour government is now, before your very observant eyes, trying to force the\n\"crypto standard\" onto a framefork where the \"standard\" is now an ancient\nrelic in terms of modern Japanese security techniques.\n\n\nNow, I pose the question: Why censor folks on the net and send the warning\nshown above (\"cancelled or expired\") when it would be wiser to not let people\nsee the post at all??\n\n\nWhich Article of the Constitution gives me the right of revolution if things\nseem to be going cockeyed??\n\n\nHmmm...","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I don't seem to be able to get window positions reliably through\nthe XView xv_get() function:\n\n   x = (int) xv_get(my_frame, XV_X);\n   y = (int) xv_get(my_frame, XV_Y);\n\nFor example, if I set XV_X & XV_Y to 50,50 the frame comes up\nin the correct position, with the top left corner (the size\nhandle) at 50,50. xv_get() returns 50,50 as well. But later on\nxv_get() returns 5,25 without any intervening xv_set(my_frame,\nXV_?). My frame is fitted around a canvas, and it turns out\n(by measuring on the screen) that 5,25 is the position of the\nfirst pixel in my canvas relative to the frame's origin. What\ngives? Any help most appreciated!\n\nDerek\n\nP.S. On a related subject, is there any way of querying the\nwindow manager as to the thickness of borders it puts around\nframes, etc.?\n\n-----------------------------------------------------------","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n<clip clip>\n\n\nRunning MS-DOS or a derivative OS, obviously. Please take note that the\nfollowing is not what exactly happens, but a slightly simplified\nexplanation.\n\nTechnically, the IRQ line is only a means for the device (printer\nadapter, SoundBlaster, modem, hard disk, ...) to signal the CPU that\n\"Something's happening here, please take note.\" How the CPU is\nprogrammed to handle this signal is usually up to the operating system.\nIn MS-DOS, the \"interrupt vector\" is used to store the address of the\nfunction that handles each interrupt.\n\nNow, basic DOS doesn't care whether the printer reports that it's ready\nto print some more stuff or not - it simply ignores the interrupt.  When\nDOS prints, it looks at the LPT buffer.  If there's a character there,\nwait a while and check again.  If there's not, copy a new character to\nthe LPT port.  Since the IRQ 7 is ignored as a printer interrupt, it's\nfree for use for any other adapters - in this case, the SB. \n\nWith any multitasking or otherwise advanced OS, this kind of printing\napproach just doesn't work (or more precisely, it wastes a lot of CPU\ncycles.) Hence, you can't \"share\" the IRQ 7 with LPT1 and SB if you're\nrunning Unix or OS\/2 or whatnot.\n\nAnother issue with the SB is that only the digitized sound uses\ninterrupts. When the SB plays plain music, the CPU simply tells it what\nto play until told otherwise. With digitized sound the interrupt is\nrequired to notify the CPU when the output ends and new data is\nneeded.\n\nYou can, however, hook two (or more) COM ports to one interrupt, but use\nthem only one at a time.  This is because the interrupt handling routine\nis same for both ports, and it can see from which port the data came\nfrom. This, of course, applies for some other devices (like LPT) as well.\n\nRemember, this was greatly simplified in parts, but I think gives the\ngeneral picture correctly enough.\n\nCheers,\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nIt really bums me out that xv went shareware.\n\n * XV is shareware for PERSONAL USE only.  You may use XV for your own\n                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^\n                       What does this mean anyway?  Can I sit in a company\n                       and look at pictures off the net in my spare time?\n\n * amusement, and if you find it nifty, useful, generally cool, or of\n * some value to you, your non-deductable donation would be greatly\n * appreciated.  $25 is the suggested donation, though, of course,\n * larger donations are quite welcome.  Folks who donate $25 or more\n * can receive a Real Nice bound copy of the XV manual for no extra\n * charge.\n *\n * Commercial, government, and institutional users MUST register their\n * copies of XV, for the exceedingly REASONABLE price of just $25 per\n * workstation\/X terminal.  Site licenses are available for those who\n * wish to run XV on a large number of machines.  Contact the author\n * for more details.\n\nNow since universities are institutions (right?), doesn't this mean that\nmost everyone in the world is affected by this?  (I don't believe there\nare that many running X windows at home yet, relatively speaking).\n\nCan the author legally sell xv?  Xv uses tiff and jpeg code developed\nby others.  Did the author get permission to sell these works?  Did\nthe author also get permission from all the people who contributed to\nxv to sell their work as well?\n\nMy guess is that now nobody is going to want to help the author\nmaintain the code anymore now that xv has become a commercial product,\nand support for xv will begin to slide downhill.\n\nIf this is the case, then that's a bummer.  I really liked xv.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"It has be reported that the National Baseball League has\nbeen spotted in the West Bank;  they were recruiting pitchers.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":": The Branch Davidians were not violent and were not planning to start\n: violence.\n:  \n: When the BD compound was assaulted by the ATF the BD did fire back.\n: But they agreed to a cease fire and they allowed the ATF to care for\n: their wounded.  The BD even released the ATF agents they captured.  It\n: is clear from the release of the agents and allowing the ATF medical\n: attention that the BD were not looking for trouble.\n\n  This is the first I've heard of the BD capturing and releasing ATF agents.\nIs there any more info about this?","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":": \n:    Hams can legally run up to 1500 watts.  It is very unlikely, however,\n:    that a ham would be running that kind of power from a car.  Ham rigs\n: \n: Not possible either.  You'd need about a 300 amp alternator for\n: just the amplifier.  I can just see it.  You need to slow\n: down on a downgrade,  so you hit the push to talk button.\n\nWell - 100+ amps anyway. Transmissions are generally for a short interval.\nThe battery would supply the rest. Of course, if you transmitted too much,\nyou would run the battery down.\n\nIt really would not be that much of a brake.  Even at 50% efficiency, 1500\nwatts would only consume 4 horsepower.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"A recent post bears the subject line:\n\n > Re: Serbian genocide work of God?\n\nThe text contains 80 lines devoted to a defence of the doctrine of\npredestination as applied to the salvation of individuals. There is\nthen a five-line post-script on the Balkans. It is natural and easy\nto keep the Subject line of the post that one is replying to, but\nwhen the focus shifts, keeping the same Subject can cause confusion.\n\nThis is intended as a general request. The post mentioned is just\nthe handiest example.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nIts bogus.  See the sci.skeptic FAQ (I edit it).\n\nYou can diagnose some things by looking at the eyes.  Glaucoma is the\nClassic Example, but there are probably others.\n\nIridology maps parts of the body onto the irises of the eyes.  By\nlooking at the patterns, striations and occasional blobs in the irises\nyou are supposed to be able to diagnose illnesses all over the body.\n\nThe two questions to ask any alternative therapist are:\n\n1: How does it work?\n\n2: What evidence is there?\n\nThe answer to question 1 takes a little knowledge of medicine to\nevaluate.  I don't know about iridology, but I've read a book on\nreflexology, which is a remarkably similar notion except that the\norgans of the body are mapped onto the soles of the feet.  There are\nsupposed to be channels running down the body carrying information or\nenergy of some sort.  Anatomists have found no such structures.\n(Always beware the words \"channel\" and \"energy\" in any spiel put out\nby an alternative practitioner.)\n\nThe answer to question 2 is rather simpler.  If all they have is\nanecdotal evidence then forget it.  Ask for referreed papers in\nmainstream medical journals.  Ignore any bull about the conspiracy of\nrich doctors suppressing alternative practitioners.  Studies are done\nand papers are published.  Some of them are even positive.\n\nThe word \"licensed\" in the flyer is an interesting one.  Licensed by\nwhom?  For what?  It is quite possible that the herbology is real and\nrequires a license: you can kill someone by giving them the wrong\nplants to eat, and many plants contain very powerful drugs (Foxglove\nand Willow spring to mind).  It is not clear whether the license\nextends to the iridology, and I suspect that if you ask you will be\ntold that it means \"(Licensed herbologist) and iridologist\".\n\nBTW, the usual term is \"herbalist\".  Why use a different word?\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"which are them main trucking companeies and\ntheir locations?  do you have the name of ac\na contact person?\n\n\nthanks..","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Hello Folks,\n\nI'm very happy with my \"new\" R80GS.  My range is 238 miles on 4.8 gallons...\nthat's 50 mpg!!  Surprisingly, the bike is a real cruiser.  I was expecting\nsomething rough.   She's a sweet backroad honey.  And I can go pretty much\nanyplace I'd take my mountain bike.  As far as shaft effect, it's more a \ntorque effect from the crankshaft in my opinion.  Rev it sitting still\n(when the driveshaft is not moving) and the bike twists a bit.  Maybe\nI don't ride her fast enough to get a shaft effect, but in my opinion\na little buffeting by wind is of far greater consequence.  Okay, here are \nmy questions:\n\n1) Any recommendations for a home-made fairing?  I'd like to keep the\nwind off my chest, and perhaps my helmet, for comfort at highway speeds\n(70 mph), yet don't want to (a) screw up the stability or (b) block my\nvision too much for trail riding.  Anybody have luck with two-piece \ndetachible fairings?  I'd like to make it myself out of plexiglas.\n\n2) I run two lights, the standard headlamp plus a sidelamp mounted on the\ncrash bar.  The illumination's excellent that way, with a full beam coming\nout from the level of the motor (left side); the lamp beam is linear so\nthat you get a bright streak of illumination from left to right, and it \nreally picks up the periphery (deer lurking, etc.)  Combined with the \nheadlamp on high you can see like day.  But I've heard that BMW alternators\ndon't crank out too much.  Do I need to shut down the sidelamp when I'm\nputtering around in the dirt at low RPM?  \n\n3) This is embarassing: I'm having trouble starting the bike first thing\nin the morning.  I invariably flood the carbs, then go in and read a section\nof the paper, and then she starts right up.  Is this a Zen thing? \n\n4) The Hayne's manual says do not under any circumstances use gasoline\nwith alcohol additives... Yeah, right.  What do you folks due to keep\nthe engine and carbs from being eaten by ethanol and methanol?  Any \nparticular brands of gas that are best?  Additives?\n\nThanks,","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nI think this is a little extreme, i am concerned about a couple of things\ni've seen lately. It seems to me that the government is *beginning* to \nenforce political correctness. the first King verdict was polically incorrect\nso the hell with constutitional protection from double jeopardy, try the cops\nagain. the BD's are far as i can tell didn't do anything wrong. nothing that\nwould justify the horrable end they were subjected too. they were simply\npolically incorrect in the extream. i can't help but wonder \"who's next\"","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":" \n \nHere we go again.\n \n========================================================================","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\nFor those who would like to know, the 6507 was a 6502 without IRQ or NMI,\nand with only 13 address lines (giving 8K memory space).\n\n\nDidn't know about it being called the 6526 - thats the CIA found in the\nCommodore 64 (I don't believe this chip existed when the 2600 was around).\nThe TIA was mapped into the bottom 128 bytes of page 0, and shadowed in the\nbottom 128 bytes of page 1. To get an image on the screen, you had to wait\nuntil the raster line your picture started at, load bitmaps for this line\ninto the 'sprite' registers, tell them what x positions to take, how many\nduplicates you wanted, etc, then do it all again for the next line. This\ntook all of the processor's time during the visible portion of the\ndisplay.\n\n\nThe RAM was mapped into the top 128 bytes of page 0, and shadowed in page\n1. The 6502 has a zero-page addressing mode on most instructions that is\nboth shorter and faster than the normal ones, so it is important on a\nmachine like this to have the scratchpad RAM in page 0. Unfortunately, it\nalso wants its stack to be in page 1 (the stack pointer is 8 bits, and the\nhigh byte of the address is hardwired to 1).\n\nThe IOT section was mapped into page 2 somewhere. 2 8 bit I\/O registers\n(can't remember if each bit could be independantly set to I or O like the\n6522 and 6526), and 1(?) 8(?) bit timer with a programmable prescaler (I\nthink this was some power of 2). There were no interrupts in the system, so\nmany games would set up the timer at some known time, go away and do\nsomething else for a while, then sit and wait for the timer to run down.\n\nThere was no logic in the box to do address decoding - the RIOT had at\nleast 2 chip select pins (probably one active high, one active low), and I\nimagine the TIA was much the same. Various address lines were fed directly\nto chip selects. The 6507 likes to have ROM right at the top of memory, so\nthe 2600 had to use ROMs with active high chip selects - not exactly\nnormal, so some cartriges had a 7404 in them to convert this to the more\nusual active low chip select.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"On 23 Apr 93 00:18:59 GMT, Clayton Cramer observed:\n: # Can someone tell me why when Mr. Cramer spouts on about homosexuals,\n: # he only addresses homosexual men, and never, in any post I've read,\n: # addressed lesbians?  Granted, I stopped reading all his posts long, long\n: # ago, so perhaps I missed something. \n\n: Because women very, very seldom molest children.\n\nUn-hunh.  Yeah.  Right.  Sure.\n\nYou know that list of things that are stereotypically American -- Mom,\napple pie, etc.?  You don't hear too many stories about Mom being\na child molester, because such stories would simply be unAmerican.\n\nBut that doesn't say that it doesn't happen.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nNot to muslims :)\n\n\n\nThat could be arguable.. (for bandwith and flames sake, I wont say more)\n\n\n\nIt is a civil war, but the serbian generals who allow rape are not fighting\nfair.  Yah I know .. war is hell  ..  those serbian generals are propretuating\nboth..\n\nLines and bordres .. money .. power .. fear .. \n\nLet's change canadian bordres while we are at it :) \nI see this as civvil war..\n(sp borders)\n\n\n\nPossibly..  I do agree that it is a civil war, which makes the donation of\nhumanitarian aid even more complex...  I mean serbs are bleeding too and I heardthat a few croats had raped serbian women.. (unconfurmable at this point)\n\n\n\n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I've recently uploaded to cica the current (v2.8) version of the working \nmodel of MicroCal Origin, a scientific and technical 2D\/3D graphics and data \nanalysis package for Windows 3.x. The working model is 2D only and puts a\npromo message on hardcopies, but is largely identical to the full version.\nSaving Origin files is disabled, but you can save ASCII data sets produced\nwith Origin. It also says it has an expiration date of Sept. 1, 1993.\n\nTry it. You may like it, as I do!\n\nIt's currently in \/pub\/pc\/win3\/uploads as ORIGIN.ZIP.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nI am familiar with the project.  It is the Onboard Shuttle Flight\nSoftware Project.  This software controls the Space Shuttle During\nall dynamic phases as well as on-orbit.\nIt has ultra-high reliability and extremely\nlow error rates.  There have been several papers published on the\nsubject and I'll collect some references.  There may be an\narticle in the IBM Systems Journal Late '93, early '94.\n\nThere is no magic formula.  We did it with dedicated and disciplined\nfolks who worked to put together a process that finds and removes errors\nand is corrected based on errors that \"escape\".  We present a\none day overview of our process periodically to interested folks.\nThe next one is May 19th in Washington, D.C.  I can fax specifics\nto those who are interested.\n\nBret Wingert\nWingert@VNET.IBM.COM","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\tI have a 5FG and think it is great. I haven't seen the Nanao's so I\ncan't compare, but the 5FG image is very sharp and the color contrast is\n*extremely* good. I've used other Trinitron monitors (e.g. a Sun SS2 color\nmonitors, which is a 19\" Trinitron), and think the 5FG is at least as good,\nperhaps brighter, and has *none* of these silly horizontal lines running across.\n\tBTW, I could be wrong, but I thought that the 5FGe is slower as well\nas missing ACCUCOLOR. It may not be able to handle 1280x1024 the way the 5FG\ncan.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n  Thanks for the etymology lesson, but I actually know what \"orthodox\" means.\nYou're avoiding my question, however, which was: From what body of theology\ndoes your version of orthodoxy come?  You seem to simply be saying that\nwhatever *you* understand the Bible to say is \"orthodox.\"\n\n\n  You are obviously mistaken, since many, many people have read the Bible and\nmany do not agree with you on this point.  Once again, Robert, is your\ninterpretation the only \"correct\" or \"orthodox\" one?\n\n\n\n   This whole string began as a response to your attacks on Mormonism; no one\nis attacking your personal beliefs, only your tendency to present them as\n\"orthodoxy.\"  I don't much care *what* you believe about the Bible; just don't\npresent you personal understanding as the only \"orthodox\" one.\n\n\n   I have never attacked your specific beliefs -- that's *your* approach,\nremember?\n    Stating that other people who depend solely on the Bible have other views\nis indeed proof that the Bible can be interpreted many ways, which has been\nmy whole point all along.  The specifics of your belief are your business;\njust don't pretend that they are anything more than your personal\nintepretation, and be careful about crying \"heresy\" based on your private\nbelief system.\n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":" \nwell, i have lots of experience with scanning in images and altering\nthem.  as for changing them back into negatives, is that really possible?\nscanning and altering is no big deal. i don't know what types of\nfeatures you have in your version of photoshop.  but the one i use\n(which, incidentally is on a quadra) has gallery effects and all types\nof other neato stuff.\ni'm just wondering why you would want to put your images back into\nnegatives, because once you print the image out-that's your print.\ndo you know what exactly your aim is in all of this?  like, are you\ndoing this just for fun, for a business, to gain more computer\nknowledge, for a project you're working on....\notherwise, i guess i don't know if i'd be helping or not by posting info\non scanning and stuff.\nok?  cool.\nseeya","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":":      Here's a hypothetical question...  If Clayton said something like \"all\n: those niggers are really stupid.\"  (Please don't be offended, I'm not racist\n: but merely using an example of Clayton's malign logic).  And then said he\n: read a report that a lot of blacks in inner cities dropped out of school, I\n: bet he wouldn't have your support.  Yet he can claim that all homosexuals are\n: dishonest, evil, lying child molesters without *PERSONALLY* having a single\n: homosexual friend or acquaintance and you'll sit there and support him.\n\n:      God created a place for bigots.  It's called Hell and Clayton is going\n: to burn there for a long time.  I pray for him to find in his heart the\n: Christian values he espouses so that he can learn to love his gay brothers\n: and sisters, because anyone with so much hatred in his soul coulld never\n: be righteous.\n\nThere is a difference between supporting Claytons opinions and supporting\nhis right to speak.  I want you to know that you cannot educate and\/or\nelevate ones understanding by calling him names.  Clayton has an opinion\nwhich in his mind is as valid as any opinion anyone else on the net has.\nIf you were to walk up to black person to talk about blacks in the inner\ncity and began the conversation with \"Those niggers in th.......\".  You\nwould lose the attention of that black person by the time you spoke your\nsecond word.  All name calling and derisive remarks do is turn off the\naudience you are trying to address.  Clayton is guilty of that and as\nsuch has distracted attention away from his message to bits and pieces\nof his conversation.  I don't understand why people want to repeat his\nmistakes!\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
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{"text":"I would appreciate it if someone could volunteer to verify the shots on goal\nand save percentage numbers for me, so I can put these stats on the archive\nsite.  Contact me by mail if you want to volunteer.\n\nHere are the individual goalie stats as of: Wed Apr 21 09:09:38 CST 1993\n\nThese stats include games up to and including the Sunday previous to the date\nlisted above.  They have been verified against what is printed in my newspaper\nevery Tuesday.  They don't print shots and save percentage numbers, so those\nare not verified.  These stats are available by mail every weekday and\nsometimes on weekends, if I'm in town and I can get late game results.  Just\nsend me a note if you would like to receive these stats by mail.\n\nIf you have any questions, comments or suggestions, let me know.\n\nRandy\n\n-------\nMP = Minutes Played, GA = Goals against,\nSO = Shutouts, GAA = Goals against average\nW = Wins, L = Losses, T = Ties\nSOG = Shots on Goal, SV = Save Percentage\n\n MP   GA SO   GAA  W  L  T  SOG   SV  TM Player\n=======================================================\n   1   0  0  0.00  0  0  0    0 1.000 WAS Byron Dafoe\n  11   0  0  0.00  0  0  0    3 1.000 HAR Corrie D'Alessio\n  40   1  0  1.50  0  0  0   19 0.947 MTL Frederick Chabot\n  25   1  0  2.40  0  0  0   10 0.900 BOS Mike Bales\n2781 116  2  2.50 25 15  7 1287 0.910 TOR Felix Potvin\n4106 177  7  2.59 41 18 11 1879 0.906 CHI Ed Belfour\n1322  64  1  2.90  9  8  4  596 0.893 BOS John Blue\n 996  49  2  2.95  6  7  1  414 0.882 CHI Jim Waite\n3702 186  4  3.01 43 14  5 1889 0.902 PIT Tom Barrasso\n3890 196  1  3.02 29 28  9 2194 0.911 STL Curtis Joseph\n1817  94  1  3.10 18  8  4  858 0.890 VAN Kay Whitmore\n1429  75  0  3.15 11 10  4  716 0.895 BUF Dominik Hasek\n3194 168  3  3.16 37 14  3 1354 0.876 BOS Andy Moog\n1311  70  1  3.20 14  4  1  629 0.889 CAL Jeff Reese\n3595 192  2  3.20 31 25  5 1813 0.894 MTL Patrick Roy\n 168   9  0  3.21  1  1  1   87 0.897 HAR Mike Lenarduzzi\n1193  64  0  3.22 13  4  2  522 0.877 DET Vincent Riendeau\n1785  96  2  3.23 17  7  4  938 0.898 TOR Daren Puppa\n3880 210  4  3.25 34 24  7 1898 0.889 DET Tim Cheveldae\n3732 203  2  3.26 29 26  9 1805 0.888 CAL Mike Vernon\n2655 146  1  3.30 22 20  2 1314 0.889 NYI Glenn Healy\n3359 185  1  3.30 24 24  6 1726 0.893 BUF Grant Fuhr\n2757 152  4  3.31 20 18  7 1519 0.900 NYR John Vanbiesbrouck\n3282 181  1  3.31 27 23  5 1531 0.882 WAS Don Beaupre\n3476 193  3  3.33 26 26  5 1683 0.885 MIN Jon Casey\n3261 184  3  3.39 28 21  5 1620 0.886 VAN Kirk McLean\n2672 151  2  3.39 19 21  3 1322 0.886 NJ  Chris Terreri\n1433  81  1  3.39 17  5  1  686 0.882 MTL Andre Racicot\n1939 110  0  3.40 18  9  4  947 0.884 QUE Stephane Fiset\n2512 143  5  3.42 20 17  6 1329 0.892 PHI Tommy Soderstrom\n1368  78  0  3.42 13  7  2  691 0.887 PIT Ken Wregget\n 542  31  0  3.43  5  4  0  225 0.862 BOS Reggie Lemelin\n2988 172  0  3.45 29 16  5 1525 0.887 QUE Ron Hextall\n2253 130  0  3.46 17 15  5 1067 0.878 NYI Mark Fitzpatrick\n3855 227  2  3.53 33 26  6 2119 0.893 WIN Bob Essensa\n1601  96  0  3.60 15 10  2  777 0.876 WIN Jim Hrivnak\n1596  97  1  3.65 10 12  5  803 0.879 MIN Darcy Wakaluk\n1591  97  0  3.66  7 19  2  757 0.872 TB  Wendell Young\n1163  71  0  3.66  8 10  1  573 0.876 TB  JC Bergeron\n2389 146  2  3.67 21 16  4 1180 0.876 NJ  Craig Billington\n1210  74  1  3.67  8  8  2  628 0.882 STL Guy Hebert\n1302  80  2  3.69  8 12  0  664 0.880 WAS Rick Tabaracci\n 664  41  0  3.70  5  6  0  344 0.881 BUF Tom Draper\n 224  14  0  3.75  1  2  1  116 0.879 NYR Corey Hirsch\n1769 111  1  3.76 13 11  5  932 0.881 PHI Dominic Roussel\n2105 134  1  3.82 13 19  3 1184 0.887 NYR Mike Richter\n 157  10  0  3.82  1  2  0   78 0.872 NYI Danny Lorenz\n3753 240  1  3.84 17 38  6 2069 0.884 EDM Bill Ranford\n1735 111  0  3.84 15  8  4  987 0.888 LA  Robb Stauber\n2718 175  2  3.86 18 21  6 1545 0.887 LA  Kelly Hrudey\n 154  10  0  3.90  0  2  1   66 0.848 QUE Jacques Cloutier\n 867  57  0  3.94  5  9  1  499 0.886 HAR Mario Gosselin\n 532  35  0  3.95  6  4  0  294 0.881 LA  Rick Knickle\n2268 150  1  3.97  8 24  4 1197 0.875 TB  Pat Jablonski\n2074 142  1  4.11  7 26  0 1250 0.886 SJ  Arturs Irbe\n2656 184  0  4.16 16 27  3 1470 0.875 HAR Sean Burke\n1338  93  0  4.17  9 12  2  763 0.878 EDM Ron Tugnutt\n1326  95  0  4.30  2 17  1  743 0.872 OTT Daniel Berthiaume\n 802  59  0  4.41  3  9  0  405 0.854 PHI Stephane Beauregard\n3388 250  0  4.43  8 46  3 1711 0.854 OTT Peter Sidorkiewicz\n  65   5  0  4.62  0  0  1   39 0.872 CAL Andrei Trefilov\n1373 111  0  4.85  4 15  1  784 0.858 HAR Frank Pietrangelo\n  73   6  0  4.93  0  0  1   34 0.824 WIN Mike O'Neill\n  60   5  0  5.00  0  1  0   46 0.891 SJ  Wade Flaherty\n2000 176  0  5.28  2 30  1 1220 0.856 SJ  Jeff Hackett\n 930  86  0  5.55  2 14  1  559 0.846 SJ  Brian Hayward\n 160  15  0  5.63  0  3  0   91 0.835 TOR Rick Wamsley\n  20   2  0  6.00  0  0  0    7 0.714 WAS Olaf Kolzig\n  90  10  0  6.67  0  2  0   44 0.773 OTT Darrin Madeley\n 249  30  0  7.23  0  5  0  146 0.795 OTT Steve Weeks\n  98  13  0  7.96  0  2  0   51 0.745 LA  David Goverde\n  45   7  0  9.33  0  1  0   21 0.667 TB  David Littman\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"From article <1993May1.092058.1@aurora.alaska.edu>, by pstlb@aurora.alaska.edu:\n\n\nSince this was posted on comp.ai, I assume there is an AI angle to this.  Hacking is\nwhat AI students do when they're really supposed to be doing something else, e.g.\nthesis research & write up, getting their supervisors' pet programs to run properly,\netc.  No-one gets much glory for hacking, and no-one gets any money out of it.\nProducing good free software requires an enormous investment of time & resources that\nnot many people can, or want to, afford - particularly during a recession.\n\nIn addition, over the last 10 years, I think there has been a de-emphasis on producing\nrunning programs in AI research, and a greater emphasis on more formal approaches to\nproblem-solving.  Students have been proving theorems instead of writing programs.\nAt a conference a year or two ago, Johann de Kleer suggested that everyone should\n'Get back to the keyboard' and write more programs that demonstrate their ideas -\nand I have to say I'm inclined to agree.\n\n(I don't claim to be a superhacker, but I don't think that invalidates my remarks.\nAnd I'm sure this isn't the whole story.)\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n: So to most of the computer users in the world MS product symbolize\n: quality. MS has made their life easier, and more productive and to them\n: that is quality. They do not care about what innovative things MS has\n: done, other than to make their life with a computer one heck of a lot\n: easier. You may know better than most computer users in this world\n: but that will not change their perception.\n\nNone of this changes the fact that MSW3.1 is objectively inferior to its\ncompetition.\n\nI have begun to learn in life that the masses never choose the best option\navailable to them-- they choose the one which they have been conditioned to \nthink is best.  I'm glad I'm not one of them.  ","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n[Text Deleted]\n\n\n\nI have, my thesis was on Sun Tzu.\n\nMore to the point:\n\nThose who are called the good militarists of old, could make opponents\nlost contact between front and back lines, lose reliability between\nlarge and small groups, lose mutual concern for the welfare of the\ndifferent social classes among them, lose mutual accomodation between\nthe rulers and the ruled, lose enlistments among the soldiers, lose\ncoherence within the armies.  They went into action when it was\nadvantageous, stopped when it was not.\n\nToday it is.  Sitting on your hands will get you nowhere in this battle.\n\n\nuni@acs.bu.edu","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Last two copies of silverlining 5.42 from La Cie for sale.  This\nis disk management software.  Lets you evalulate\/test hard drive,\ninstall and test drivers, partition disks (supports AUX, ProDos, etc).\nNice piece of software to have around the house.  If you are interested\nplease email your offers.  First good offer also gets MacTree disk\norganization software free.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nBack your statments with proof, or shut up.\n\n\nAgain, back your statements or shut up.\n\n\nHmm...  Tell me, did you go to the Mickey Mouse school of logic?  You have\njust stated that there are not many homosexuals as Kinsey reported in his\nsurvey (and the surveys of the Kinsey Institute since).  Then you say that\nthe reason many young people are promiscuous is because homosexuals form\na large part of that group, or there are some homosexuals whose lives \nconsist of having sex, with no gaps for eating &c.  Using *your* logic\nit would seem to suggest that on average gay men have about 2000 partners each\na week!  Try to think through your arguments carefully.  Or then again, not,\nbecause I like to laugh every now and then.\n\n\nHence the argument cannot be resolved using this data.  Next point, please.\n\n\nThis depends on the premise that there are only three types of behaviour: gay, bi\nand hetero.  This has yet to be proved.  See an earlier post about the Kinsey\nInstitute of grading.  This, although rough, seems more logical.  Also you use\n\"this would show\", defining a fact and not an assumption.  Again, back your \nstatements or shut up.\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"CNN just reported the ATF and the FBI have begun killing everyone in the\nUnited States. A press release stated this action was required because\nbugs had revealed that many people were doing something illegal in their\nhomes, and statistical data indicated that those who weren't might someday\ndo something illegal. An ATF spokesperson, just before he shot himself, stated\nthat \"this would clean up things once and for all\".\n\nIf the citizens can be gathered into groups of more than 100, the FBI has\nindicated they will \"burn them, just like we did those kooks in Waco\". \nIt hasn't been decided how the new proposed \"energy tax\" will enter into\nthis, an IRS representative stated \"We're looking at the tax code to determine\nif taxes really end at death. With this many dead Americans, we don't want\nto overlook anything\". An ATF agent ran into the room, and shot her.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nIt is completely clear. You have to assume that each byte that was encrypted\nby this 'Clipper Chip' has been compromised. \nSome people wondered, why Denning, Hellman and others did not respond,\nwhen asked what would be done about such compromised phones, or if\ncompromise could not be restricted in time. (I did too) Let us just assume\nthat a) They do not know and b) Those who know don't tell and c)\nThey do not care. It seem's to be an 'Other Person's Problem' ...\n\n gec","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"ITEMS FOR SALE - PRICE LISTED OR BEST OFFER!!!!!!!\n\nKFC SVGA Monitor 1024X768 .28DP Non-interlaced 14\" \nScreen, still under warranty! (Brand New)          $ 275.00\n\n1200 Baud Compuadd Modem Box\/docs\/software         $  15.00\n\nCGA Monitor with Cga\/Parallel Card                 $  30.00\n\nSCO UNIX V3.2.2 Unlimited User OS, has the base\nand extended Utilities, and UUCP                   $ 125.00\n\nTurbo C\/Turbo C++ The complete reference book.     $  15.00\n\nSerial I\/O Card  1 serial Port                     $  10.00\n\nJoystick, three button                             $  10.00\n\nIDE Controller with 2 Serial, 1 parallel and one\nGame port.                                         $  10.00Each","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I am wondering how to change the English fonts in an existed\nAPI to some multi-bytes fonts ? (such as Chinese, Japanese...)\nSomeone told me X11R5 supports some internationalization\nfeatures, but I cannot find any examples for my need. Is there\nanybody has done some similar jobs ?\n\nBy the way, all the English fonts should be replace by Chinese or\nJapanese fonts, that means in windows, menubar, button....\n\nThat will be great if someone can share us what you have done.\nThanks in advance.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nA friend of mine had the same problem, it turned out that his floppy was\nset up as a 5 1\/4 1.2Mb drive instead of 3.5 1.44Mb.....\n\nmight help...\n\n\nMatt.\n\n-- ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
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{"text":"please subscribe me.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I went out and bought the PAS16 yesterday, and installed it into my Gateway\nDX2-66V. I followed the instructions and set the SB side with DMA 1 and IRQ5\n(the default) and then the PAS side with DMA 5 and IRQ 10. My question is how\nshould I configure for MPU-401 compatibility. The manual and installation\nprogram recommended IRQ2, but on my machine it is configured to [cascade] to\nIRQ8-15. So can I still use IRQ2, or should I choose a different one? Right now\nI have the MPU-401 emulation mode turned off. Actually what is this \"cascade to\nIRQ8-15\" business?  \n\nA related questions (to other GW or VL-bus machine owners) I was told that \nonly DMA 5, 6, 7 are 16 bit DMAs, and 0-4 are 8 bit DMAs. Now what about\n32-bit VL-bus mastering DMAs?? Which DMA channel(s) is used by the VL-bus\nextension to do 32-bit DMA?\n\nYet another question, after installing PAS16, my Links (golf game) will hang\nthe machine when I select SB mode and run, but works with Adlib mode??\nCivilization however works fine ( at least so far). Any body knows what I might\nhave done wrong? ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"The European version is called 200 SX and have a 1.8 liter engine with\nturbo and have more power than the US version ( 169 HP ); it goes from\n0 to 100 Km\/h in 7.5 sec and have a top speed of 225 Km\/h ( 140 miles\/h ).\nI just purchased one ( new ) and I am looking for a repair book. I could\nnot find one in FRANCE and GERMANY; does anybody knows where to find one ?\nIs there one in the UK ?\nProbabaly no use to look in the US as the 240 SX have here a different motor.\nI am very pleased with the car and have no problem with it; but like to have\ngood technical documentation about the car I own.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n[ ... my stuff deleted ... ]\n\n\nBill, you seem to have erroneously assumed that this board has as its\nsole purpose the validation of atheism.  It doesn't.  This board is\nused to discuss atheism as a philosophy, to share posters' experiences\nregarding atheism, to debunk various theisms and theism as a whole, to\nshare resources relating to atheism, and even to socialize with others\nwith similar views.  And of course with the number of theists who come\nhere to preach, it is also used to argue the case for atheism. \n\n\n\nIf you want to accuse people of lying, please do so directly.  The\nphrase \"deliberately mistaken\" is rather oxymoronic.\n\n \n\nThe two forms of theism most often discussed here these days are\nChristianity and Islam.  Both of these claim to make their followers\ninto good people, and claim that much of benefit to humanity has been\naccomplished through their faiths.  IMHO they are right.  The American\nFriends Service Committee (Quaker), Catholic Relief Services, Bread\nFor The World, Salvation Army soup kitchens, and Mother Theresa spring\nto mind.  (Can someone with more knowledge of Islam supply the names\nof some analagous Islamic groups?)  \n\nWhen Mother Theresa claims that her work is an outgrowth of her\nChristianity, I believe her.  Her form of theism ascribes to her deity\nsuch a benevolence toward humanity that it would be wrong not to care\nfor those in need.  The point is that such a philosophy does have the\npower to change the behavior of individuals;  if it is widespread\nenough, it can change societies.\n\nThe same works for the horrors of history.  To claim that Christianity\nhad little to do with the Crusades or the Inquisition is to deny the\nawesome power that comes from faith in an absolute.  What it seems you\nare doing twisting the reasonable statement that religion was never\nthe solitary cause of any evil into the unreasonable statement that\nreligion has had no evil impacts on history.  That is absurd.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"If we can't avoid throwing out gut-reactions to what we see as \"extremist\"\nviews here in the newsgroup, we're certainly not going to be any better at\nit in the real world. Hey, it easy here. After reading the offending post, \nwe can step back, take some deep breathing exercises, have a gallon of\nice cream (or sex, whichever calmsus), and reply in something other\nthan the usual king-of-the-hill mentality.  \n\nPerhaps, starting here with an immediate \"accusation\" is not a particularly\ngood way to generate open responses? How about explaining what you see as\nbeing Israel's *real worries* and how they *need* to be addressed? Since\nthe \"other side\" sees Israel's \"gestures\" in a completely different light\nthan you do, perhaps \"they\" also have *real worries*. From their point\nof view, what are they? How can those worries be addressed? \n\nIt is certainly much harder to \"reach compromise\" (or, even sit down\nand talk with...) an other side which is fractured into several\ndifferent ideologies, each with its own set of \"demands\". While it is\nup to \"them\" to generate unity on their side, is there anything that\nIsrael can do (without sacrificing its security, its position) to\nencourage that unification along lines that Israel prefers?\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Stephen A. Creps writes to All:\n\n[...]\n\n SAC> Also, we know that\n SAC> the Bible says that _everyone_ must be baptized to enter Heaven.\n\nWhere exactly does it say that?\n\n SAC> _Everyone_ includes infants, unless there is other Scripture to the\n SAC> contrary, i.e. an exception.  Since there is no exception listed in the\n SAC> Bible, we must assume (to be on the safe side) that the Bible means what\n SAC> it says, that _everyone_ must be baptized to enter Heaven.\n\nI think we do see an exception in the case of Cornelius and his\nhousehold, mentioned in Acts. Of course, they were baptised, but only\nafter \"God showed that He accepted them by giving them the Holy\nSpirit\". This means they were already acceptable to God before their\nbaptism, and had they suddenly died they would have gone to heaven.\n\nIn case that seems far-fetched - an ancestor of mine was a missionary\nwho worked among the Hereros in Namibia. Some of the tribesmen were\njealous of Christianity, and they poisoned the first convert before he\ncould be baptised. Surely he still went to heaven? I'm inclined to\nagree with a comment recorded at the time: \"It is not the neglect of\nbaptism, but its contempt, that condemns.\"\n\nMike","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n   Some women might say, \"Death\".  How about \"life, with no hope of parole\"?","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\tGreg, no flame intended, but you have no discernible sense of\nhumor.  What Bill wrote was intended to be funny.  It's called a\n\"joke\", Greg.  Look into it.\n\tBesides, Kirilian photography is actually photography of my\nfriend's two-year-old son Kiril.  Perhaps you meant \"Kirlian\"?\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nFunny, Brent, but so far we have heard two versions of the \"facts:\"\n\n1) What the government says.  This includes what the government says that\n   two survivors have said.\n\n2) What Koresh's lawyer (who was actually inside the compound) says,\n   including what he says that most of the survivors have said.\n\nStrange, but they seem to disagree in most important particulars.\n\nIf anyone has actually seen news reports of any of the survivors\nspeaking first-hand, feel free ot pitch in.  I may have missed it.\nBut my money is that their story will sound a hell of a lot like\ncase 2, and not at all like case 1.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\nTalk to Philip Greenspun. He took Ford to court recently and, despite much\nmanouvering and trickery on Ford's part, he won! Well, actually I think\nFord settled out of court on the provision he shut his mouth and stopped \ncausing them trouble. I love it when the little guy wins. I don't have\nPhilip's address anymore, but a \"Philip, where are you\" call may bring him\nout of hiding.\n\nCheers,\nPaul.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n: |>You might visit some congregations of Christians, who happen to be homosexuals,\n: |>that are spirit-filled believers, not MCC'rs; before you go lumping us all\n: |>together with Troy Perry.  \n: |>\n\n: Gee, I think there are some real criminals (robbers, muderers, drug\n: addicts) who appear to be fun loving caring people too.  So what's\n: your point?  Is it OK. just because the people are nice?\n\nThe point is not about being \"nice.\"  \"Nice\" is not a christian virtue.  The\npoint is that the gifts and fruits of the spirit (by their fruits you shall\nknow them- Mt 7:20) are manifested by and among prayerful, spirit-filled\nGAY christians.  It was the manifestation of the spirit among the gentiles\nthat convinced Peter (Acts 10) that his prejudice against them (based on\nscripture, I might add) was not in accordance with God's intentions.\n\n: I think the old saying \" hate the sin and not the sinner\" is\n: appropriate here.  Many who belive homosexuality is wrong probably\n: don't hate the people.  I don't.  I don't hate my kids when they do\n: wrong either.  But I tell them what is right, and if they lie or don't\n: admit they are wrong, or just don't make an effort to improve or\n: repent, they get punished.  I think this is quite appropriate.  You\n: may want to be careful about how you think satan is working here.\n: Maybe he is trying to destroy our sense of right and wrong through\n: feel goodism.  Maybe he is trying to convince you that you know more\n: than God.  Kind of like the Adam and Eve story.  Read it and compare\n: it to today's mentality.  You may be suprised.\n\nOf course the whole issue is one of discernment.  It may be that Satan\nis trying to convince us that we know more than God.  Or it may be that\nGod is trying (as God did with Peter) to teach us something we don't\nknow- that \"God shows no partiality, but in every nation anyone who fears\nhim and does what is right is acceptable to him.\" (Acts 10:34-35).","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\nI leave the anti-semitism to anti-gun types like Holly Silva.  I have in\nfact been calling for the disbanding of the BATF for quite some time.\nIt is an outlaw agency run by incompetants who only have contempt for\nthe laws which they supposedly enforce.\n\nI attribute the acts of the FBI to stupidity.  I attribute the acts of\nthe BATF to malice.  So did Senator Dennis DeConcini when he held\nhearings about their misconduct.\n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nYes, the IIci has 32-bit clean ROMs.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Hi all,\n\nI think the subject says it all - does anyone know how to take the rgb\/h\/vsync from a standard vga connector and record them on video tape??\n\nAny help is appreciated!\n\n\nMark J Cargill","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n[re. Conner's questioning of the blissful afterlife as a reason why many\njoined the early Xian church]\n\n\nDo you mean Hyam Maccoby's _The Mythmaker_?\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"University of Toronto\n              Instructional and Research Computing\n\n             is sponsoring a technical presentation\n                    on Visualization Software\n\n\n             _\bA_\bd_\bv_\ba_\bn_\bc_\be_\bd _\bV_\bi_\bs_\bu_\ba_\bl _\bS_\by_\bs_\bt_\be_\bm_\bs (_\bA_\bV_\bS) _\bS_\bo_\bf_\bt_\bw_\ba_\br_\be\n\n\n                        2:10 PM - 4:00 PM\n                      Thursday, May 6, 1993\n                    Sandford Fleming Building\n                            Room 1105\n\n\n\"Advanced Visual Systems will present this technical seminar on\nAVS, the world's leading visualization software package.  AVS is\na point and click, module driven, easy-to-use product that\nproduces full color, two or three dimensional rendered scenes for\ninteractive observation.  It is supported on all current Unix\nRISC platforms from Sun, SGI, IBM, H-P, DG, and DEC.  It also\nruns under DEC VMS.\n\n\"AVS is in its fourth year on the street and is very mature.  All\nfields of science, engineering, medicine, and even business\napplications now use AVS.  This seminar will focus on its many\nfeatures in technical detail during a half hour slide\npresentation.  Following a question period there will be a live\ndemonstration using a Sun SPARCstation.  In addition, a new AVS\nprogram called CAMPUS will be introduced at this meeting.\n\n\"Also discussed will be the International AVS Center, which\nprovides an on-line repository of over 1000 graphics modules at\nthe North Carolina Supercomputer Center in Raliegh, NC.  AVS has\nimbedded tools to write one's own customized modules should these\nnot be available with AVS or from AVS International.\"\n\n\n                            _\bS_\bp_\be_\ba_\bk_\be_\br_\bs\n\n     The scheduled speaker for this presentation is Mr. Paul\nEcklund of Ecklund Associates, the distributor of AVS in\nCanada.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\npmy> ...Anyway, I've often wondered what business followers of Christ\npmy> would have with weapons.\n\nfc> Didn't Christ tell his disciples to arm them selves, shortly\nfc> before his crusifiction? (I believe the exact quote was along the\nfc> lines of, \"If you have [something] sell it and buy a sword.\")\n\n  \"If you have a purse\" it was.\n\nfc> Certainly, Christ said,\n\nfc> \"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to\nfc> send peace but the sword.  For I am come to set a man at variance\nfc> against his father, and the daugher against her mother...\"\n\nfc> [Matthew 10 34-35]\n\n  Yes, He said this, but the sword that Jesus brought was the sword of\nthe Word of God, which divides between those that believe, and those\nwho do not, even right down a family.\n\nMark\n--\nMark TOWFIQ | Business\/Urgent: towfiq@Microdyne.COM  +1 508 392 9953 (fax 9962)\n\t      Other:   towfiq@Justice.Medford.MA.US  +1 617 488 2818","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
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{"text":"First you find a congenial member of the opposite sex ...\n--\nThomas Clarke\nInstitute for Simulation and Training, University of Central FL\n12424 Research Parkway, Suite 300, Orlando, FL 32826\n(407)658-5030, FAX: (407)658-5059, clarke@acme.ucf.edu","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n    What paper is that? It's been on the price list here at Dartmouth\nsince they released it and it has never been called the \"DuoDock Plus.\" ","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"Don't worry about this -- they'll drop you like a hot potato after you do\n  make a claim. They'll just make filing the claim a pain, but it will end\n  when they leave you in the lurch.\n\nMore than that. GEICO funded the company that developed LIDAR. When locals \n  showed a reluctance to BUY the units, GEICO started giving them away. I\n  know they've given units to the Florida Highway Patrol, County Sheriff's a\n  and some local governments.\nThe real question is why? This is the hook. GEICO, and other Ins. Co.s can\n  tell which drivers represent risk. This is a determination they can make\n  AFTER YOU receive a speeding ticket from one of GEICO's LIDAR units. Most\n  drivers do not represent increased risk even after a ticket or two, but \n  this gives them the opportunity to RAISE RATES FOR EQUAL RISK. It's called\n  extra profits. They also know how silly the NSL is, and how it is almost\n  universally ignored. Driving in excess of the NSL gets you a ticket, an\n  increase in your rates, points on your license --- but it doesn't make you\n  a riskier driver to insure.\nLike the sound of this? Like the people who thought up the scheme? Go GEICO!","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\nMost fellow Diamond video board owners with whom I've corresponded may\nor may not share your opinion about the proprietary clocking scheme, but\nall of those with whom I've chatted have NOT been thrilled with the\nWindow's drivers, either.  Some modes work fine, but others cause\nstrange misdrawn objects, trails, etc.  Many have also voiced their\nstrong discontent to Diamond's ambivalent attitude toward OS\/2 drivers.\n\nCome to think of it, though, I hear and see a lot of complaints about\nthe ATI boards too, though recent word looks like the build 59 code looks\nmuch better.\n\nDoes ANYONE have an accelerated video board with drivers for Windows\n(OS\/2?) where ALL the modes function properly?  Anyone?  Anyone?\n\nLance Hartmann (lance%hartmann.austin.ibm.com@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com)\n               Yes, that IS a '%' (percent sign) in my network address.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":" \n \n \nThe point about its being real or not is that one does not waste time with\nwhat reality might be when one wants predictions. The questions if the\natoms are there or if something else is there making measurements indicate\natoms is not necessary in such a system.\n \nAnd one does not have to write a new theory of existence everytime new\nmodels are used in Physics.","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nthis is a bad idea. my machine is on 24 hours a day, but it's actually \n_doing_ things 24 hours a day. i use it as an all purpose alarm clock, \nscheduler, i've got routines that run in the middle of the night, phone \ncalls it makes during the day when i'm out. if your machine is _on_ 24 hours \na day, then you can count on it to be _working_ 24 hours a day. i could call \nit from work and download a file that i might need, i could call it from \nwork and have it turn the lights on if i'm going to be late (oops, more \nwasted electricity -- but conversely, i could have it turn the lights \n_off_). heck, i suppose i could even connect the microwave and have dinner \nready when i get there.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\nJUst use xloadimage instead (or xli).","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nCorel Draw 4 will be able to do this as it will include the Photopaint stuff that \nthe PC version got with version 3. Don't hold your breath though.\n\n--\nChris Lilley\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTechnical Author, ITTI Computer Graphics and Visualisation Training Project\nComputer Graphics Unit, Manchester Computing Centre, Oxford Road, \nManchester, UK.  M13 9PL                        Internet: C.C.Lilley@mcc.ac.uk  \nVoice: +44 (0)61 275 6045  Fax: +44 (0)61 275 6040 Janet: C.C.Lilley@uk.ac.mcc","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I am applying for an NSF grant to buy equipment for a laboratory...\n\nThe lab will need to support C (or Pascal) with graphics tools...\n\n\nWe can run the lab either on PC's or  DEC equipment --- \n\n\n\nIf you are familiar with appropriate products (software\/hardware) and precise\nprices. Please contact\n\n\nshai@lcc.stonehill.edu\n\n\nWe are interested in any available acadmic discounts....\n\n\nAlso, if anyone runs a lab using similar software\/hardware, I would be very\ninterested in hearing your opinions of its success\n\nThanks","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nI just ordered my subscription today.  Call MacWeek's Customer Service\nDept. at (609) 461-2100 and quote some plastic.  If you forget the number,\nit's included in the statement of ownership, which is on the contents \npage of the copy I have.  A one year subscription costs $99.00 in the U.S,\nCanada, or Mexico.  I was told my first issue would arrive in 4-6 weeks.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"if you want to annoy geico, call them up...give fake name...but real car \nspecs..get a quote and then tell them they are more expensive than your \ncurrent state farm\/allstate insurance.  they will still send you quote etc.\nthen you can tear up their quote and stuff it in the prepaid return \nenvelope and mail it back to them.  actually they were $12 more than my current\nstate farm rates.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Is there a way to connect a PowerBook 145, Mac IIsi, and Personal LaserWriter\nLS so that I can (not necessarily silmultaneoulsy) print from either the IIsi,\nor PB, and file share between the IIsi and PB?\nI know I can get the ($expensive$) LW NT upgrade for my LS, but I can't afford\nthat...","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n: >Hello DoD'ers et al.,\n\n: >I need some advice on inner tubes in tubeless tyres. \n: >       Barry Manor DoD# 620\n\n: Spend the bucks and get a new tire. \n\n:  ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====----\n\n\nI second the commend from Dr. Speed, get a new tire.  It's like your\nbrakes, something you don't want to take chances with.  I waited too long\nto take care of my front tire once and it went flat on me, doing 70 MPH\ngoing down the grapevine towards Bakersfield.  At that instance, I would\nof given any amount of money for a new tire.  I'm lucky to be here.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nWhen I needed heated grips I made them from pieces of an old bicycle\ninner tube and a cheap electric heating pad from the drugstore, on top\nof foam grips: soft *and* warm.  Cheaper by about a factor of 5, too.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Jason Lee asks:\n\nYou must have heard wrong.  His arm is still sore.  He hasn't gone on the DL,\nbut he may.  Managmenet is treating him as a day-to-day situation.  \n\nHis doctors thought that he was ready, and they had him throw in\nColorado, but his arm wasn't up to the strain.  He is throwing every day,\nbut he's just not quite ready to pitch full strength yet.\n\n(This is based on an interview that he gave on WFAN NY radio on Thursday,\n4\/23)","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\nCorel Draw will do it; version 2 onwards. If you have version 1 perhaps an\nupgrade is in order.\n\nAnother alternative would be to use a different bureau that can take PostScript.\n\n--\nChris Lilley\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTechnical Author, ITTI Computer Graphics and Visualisation Training Project\nComputer Graphics Unit, Manchester Computing Centre, Oxford Road, \nManchester, UK.  M13 9PL                        Internet: C.C.Lilley@mcc.ac.uk \nVoice: +44 (0)61 275 6045  Fax: +44 (0)61 275 6040 Janet: C.C.Lilley@uk.ac.mcc","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nWow! You got me thinking now!\n\nThis is an interesting question in that recently there has been a \nmove in society to classify previously \"socially unacceptable\" yet legal \nactivities as OK.  In the past it seems to me there were always two \ncoexisting methods of social control.\n\nFirst (and most explicit) is legal control.  That is the set of \nactions we define as currently illegal and having a specifically defined set \nof punishments.\n\nSecondly (and somewhat more hidden) is social control.  These are \nthe actions which are considered socially unacceptable and while not covered \nby legal control, are scrictly controled by social censure. Ideally (if \nsocialization is working as it should) legal control is hardly ever needed \nsince most people voluntarilly control their actions due to the pressure of \nsocial censure.\n\nThe control manifests itself in day-to-day life as \"guilt\" and \n\"morality\".  I've heard it said (and fully believe) that if it weren't for \nthe VAST majority of people policing themselves, legal control would be \nabsolutely impossible.\n\nLately (last 50, 100 years?) however there has been a move to \nattempt to dissengage the individual from societal control (ie. if it ain't \nillegal, then don't pick on me).  I'm not saying this is wrong, merely \nthat it is a byproduct of a society which has:\n\n\t1) A high education level,\n\t2) A high exposure to alternative ideas via the popular media,\n\t3) A high level of institutionalized individual rights, and\n\t4) A \"me\" oriented culture.\n\nI guess what I'm saying is that we appear to be in a state of transition, \nhere in the western world in that we still have many ideas about what we can\\\ncan't allow people to do based entirely on personal squeamishness, yet we \nare fully bent on maximizing individual freedoms to the max as long as \nthose freedoms don't impinge on another's.\n\nIMHO society is trying to persue two mutually exclusive ends here.  While we \nappreciate and persue individual rights (these satisfy the old \nterritoriality and dominance instincts), the removal of socialized, \ninherent fears based on ignorance will result in the \ncontinued destabilization of society.  \n\nI got no quick fix.  I have no idea how we can get ourselves out of this \nmess.  I know I would never consent to the roll-back of personal freedoms \nin order to \"stabilize\" society.  Yet I believe development of societies \nfollow a Darwinian process which selects for stability.  Can we find a \nsocial model which maximizes indiv. freed.'s yet is stable?  Perhaps it is \npossible to live with a \"non-stable\" society?\n\nAnybody see a way out?  Comments?\n\nPS.  Therefore answer to question #3:  We don't.  Do we want to?\n\n\n\nPhil Trodwell ","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I understand the when one is in orbit, the inward force of gravity at\none's center of mass is exactly balanced by the outward centrifugal\nforce from the orbiting motion, resulting in weightlessness.\n\n I want to know what weightlessness actually FEELS like. For example, is\nthere a constant sensation of falling? And what is the motion sickness\nthat some astronauts occasionally experience? \n\n Please reply only if you are either a former or current astronaut, or \nsomeone who has had this discussion first-hand with an astronaut. \nThanks!\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I am, at long last, going to replace my beloved 512ke.\nI am looking at a new LC III and a used IIci.  Prices\nhave yet to be worked out, so I'm just thinking right now\nabout their merits and drawbacks.\n\nHere's what I've thought of:\n\nThe IIci has much greater potential for expansion, a la NuBus and\ngreater memory capacity.\n\nThe LC III would be new, under warranty, newer ROMs (is the IIci\n\"32-bit clean\"?), and would have sound input.  I also like the\n\"pizza-box\" case.\n\nPerformance-wise, I have read that they are almost identical, the\nLC III being a little slower.\n\nSo, which should I get?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I have a Turbo Grafx 16 game system with the add on CD-ROM system forsale.  I want to sell the Turbo grafx, Turbo CD, Turbo pad, and Y's Book I and II  (CD) for $100.  I'll split the S&H charges.  Please reply by e-mail to jth@bach.udel.edu.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Please don't post uuencoded bitmaps here.  If you want to do so, put them\nin the alt.binaries.* areas.  These files are very large and may crash\nsome users newsfeeds.  It's also a waste of band width.  Also, we all\nknow how to convert .gif to .bmp with many programs so it'd really not\nworth posting all of these .bmp files.\n - thanks\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nCCW's are issued at the discretion of the police chief, so it varies\ntown by town.\n\nIn my town, forget about anything more than \"target and sport\" (carry to\nand from the gun club \/ hunting area only) unless you're Mr. Moneybags\nwith Large Daily Deposits.  (\"Your life isn't worth shit, but your money --\nnow, that's important.\")  In other towns, they treat law abiding citizens\nlike adults.  \n\nSecret game hint: you never know when the rules will be changed -- a change \nin police chief can throw a town from either side of the board to the other\n-- fun for the whole family!\n\nSome chiefs will grant you a \"personal protection\" permit if you have been\nattacked or threatened.  Some other blue-suited assholes have been known to \ncount this as a NEGATIVE against applicants.\n\nIt's a crap shoot, and your rights are the stakes.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n    THe bowler is John Burkett, who went to 4-0 last night.  He is\na bargain pickup on my roto team, I got him at a minimum of $5.\n\n     This is not really true.  Excluding last season, the Giants\nhas been a better 2nd half team.  In 1991, they had a hot August\nto pull to within a few games of the Braves and Dodgers before\nfading in September.\n     The Giants may go back to earth, but not as fast as last\nseason for two reasons:\n(1)   Barry Bonds\n(2)   Roger Craig is no longer the manager.  Dusty can manage\n      his pitching staffs much better than Craig.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n    ESPN never committed (and I never saw advertised) to a particular\nThursday game.  They had originally scheduled Bos-Buf, and that was\nsomehow leaked on this net, but to my knowledge ESPN never publicly\nreleased a schedule until Monday when they announced Pitt-NJ Thursday\nand Boston-Buffalo Saturday.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nAh, but the illusion in football is that there is always lots of action and\na sense of urgency because of the game clock (not all the time, but it happens\nwhen there's less than 5 minutes to go quite often).  This sense creates\ndrama, even when there may not necessarily be any and that holds a viewer's\nattention.  In baseball, only 3 players are involved in the action for about\n(here comes a wild guess) 70% of the time?  And they're just playing a\nsophisticated game of catch\/hold-the-ball\/step-out-of-the-box\/adjust-chains\/\ntouch-self-in-interesting-locations.  There's a lot of \"dead time\" with the\nplayers warming up between innings or the manager visiting the pitcher at the\nmound or the manager removing the pitcher and bringing in a relief pitcher\nwho then takes (8? 10?) pitches or Helen Dell playing the organ (Dodger fans\nwill appreciate that one).  To the non baseball junkie this is boring.\nAt any rate, I'm not putting baseball down for this - I've been an avid\nfan since I can remember - it's just that watching a baseball game on\nT.V. at home can be tedious for the non baseball junkie.  That's what Major\nLeague Baseball and the networks are trying to address when they talk of\nshortening the game.  It's because of T.V. not because \"football has more\naction than baseball\".\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"-| In article <C65oIL.436@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> \n-| Okay.  Name one single effect that Kirlian photography gives that\n-| can't be explained by corona discharge.\n\nDozens of very funny postings to sci.image.processing \n[of which this may not be one :-].","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nWhat is wrong with \"the Spirit talking to Himself.\"  Jesus intercedes\nfor us, and Romans 8:26-27 tell of how the Spirit intercedes for\nus before God.  That is no theological problem.  Tounges as a prayer\nlanguage finds support in I Corinthians 14:14-18.\n\n\n\nIts true that this could be (and has been) used as a rug to sweep\nany difficulties under.  But it is a valid point.  Paul does mention\nangelic tounges in the verse. \n\n\n\nIf the languages we sepak are the result of Babel, then it stands to\nreason that angels would speak a different language from us.  You do \nhave a valid point about multiple angelic languages.  But angelic\nbeings maybe of different species so to speak.  maybe different species\ncommunicate differently.  \n\n\nI have heard an eyewitness account, myself.  Such things are hard to prove.\nThey don't lend themselves to a laboratory thing very well.  I don';t\nknow if it is a very holy thing to take gifts into a laboratory anyway.\n\n\nThat's an unprovable statement.  How can you prove if somethings been proved?\nThere is no way to know that you've seen all the evidence.  Once I \nsaw an orthodontists records complete with photographs showing how one of\nhis patients severe underbite was cured by constant prayer.  \n\nJohn G. Lakes once prayed for someone and saw them healed in a laboratory,\naccording to \"Adventures in God.\"  Its an interesting book.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I've come across a circuit from Integrated Circuit Systems Inc\ncalled a GSP500.   This chip genlocks a VGA card to a dual input\nNTSC signal.  \nThe output from this chip is basicly a pixel clock, and has various \nspeeds.  I notice that it outputs a 28mhz clock..  can this output be \nused on an Amiga system?\nAnd must it be NTSC\/VGA  or can it be NTSC\/NTSC  ?\n \nAny simple circuits to boost an NTSC to a VGA signal?\nNeed to genlock a laser disc to my 31khz video.\n-John\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\nMy apologies for the typo - I meant the Wings had 5 power plays in the\nfirst period and the Leafs none.  \n\nAs well, my point isn't that the refs were biased, just that they were\ncalling a lot of penalties, which works to the benefit of the Wings.\n\nHaving the ref call a whole bunch of penalties against one team then\ncalling a bunch against the other to \"make up for it\" takes a lot away\nfrom what could have been a great game.\n\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I have osteoarthritis, and my huband has just been diagnosed with diabetes\n(type II, I guess--no insulin). \n\n\nI've been trying to read up on these two conditions, and what really\nsurprises me is how few experiments have been done and how little is known. \nLosing weight appears to be imperative for diabetes and advisable for\narthritis (at least, for -women- with arthritis), but, of course, the very\nconditions that make weight loss advisable are part of the reason for the\nweight gain. \n\nFor myself, I'm almost afraid to lose weight, because no matter how gentle\nand sensible a diet I use (the last one was 1800-2000 calories, in about\neight small meals), the weight won't go off gradually and stay off. \nInstead, it drops off precipitously, and then comes back on with much\ninterest, like bread on the waters.\n\n\nWith this experience, it's hard to be encouraging to my husband.  All I can\nsuggest is to make it as gradual as possible.\n\nMeanwhile, some experts recommend no sugar, others, no fat, others, just a\nbalanced diet.  It's almost impossible to tell from their writings -which-\nparts of their recommendations are supposed to help the condition, and\nwhich are merely ideas the expert thinks are nifty.\n\nIs it my imagination, or are these very old conditions very poorly\nunderstood?  Is it just that I'm used to pediatrician-talk (\"It's strep;\ngive him this and he'll get well.\") and so my expectations are too high? \n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
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{"text":"\n\nYou wouldn't have to put my name at the bottom if you simply appended a \nstandard disclaimer that the opinions expressed in your petition in no\nway claim to represent the views of either rec.sport.hockey or the internet\nas a whole.  You have surely seen these disclaimers appended to the postings\nof many who work for companies and post on the net.  The disclaimers, clever\nthough some of them may be, are there for a reason.\n\n \n-- ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"From article <ardie.313.736188058@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, by ardie@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Ardie Mack):\n\nEMM386 is NOT reqired to load the DOS kernal high (or else you couldn't\ndo it on a 286).  In a mail message I recommended that he remove it\nsince he only runs ProcomPlus frequently in DOS, and I suspect\nEMM386 will slow down windows.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\n Which is a helluva lot more than any Republican attorney general ever did!\n\n BTW, why all the crocodile tears over wasting a few religious nuts, who\n wanted to be wasted anyway?  We just got back from wasting a few hundred\n thousand religious nuts over in the Middle East, and everybody cheered!!","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"How is it that placebos are legal?  It would seem to me that if, as a patient,\nyou purchase a drug you've been prescribed and it's just sugar (or whatever),\nthere's a few legal complications that arise:\n\n\t1. \nIf you have been diagnosed with a condition and you aren't given accepted\ntreatment for it, it seems like intentional medical malpractice.\n\n\t2.\nA placebo should fall, legally, under the label of quackery (why not?)\n\n\t3.\nGetting what you pay for.  (Deceptive \"bait and switch\" to an extreme...).  False\nadvertising  (what if McDonalds didn't put 100% pure beef in their hamburgers?)\n\n\n\tSo I'm mystified.  Are these assumptions erred?  If they aren't, why the\nhell can a doctor knowingly or unknowingly prescribe a placebo?","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>\nSubject: Zionists reject non-Jews. News\n\n\nEthiopian Jews and not-quite Jews\n\nThe Israeli press has published items about Ethiopian \nJews waiting in camps in Addis Ababa for immigration to \nIsrael, who are dying of starvation. The following are \nexcerpts from an interview with the former general \ndirector of the JDC project for development and welfare \nof Ethiopian Jews, Kobi Friedman (Hadashot, 21 April \n1993), who has stated that \"there are people dying in \nAddis Ababa, but they are converts to Christianity\":\n\n\"Hadashor published the item about the dying Jews after \nviewing a video tape filmed last week in Adis Ababa. \nHow do you know that they are actually converts to \nChritianity ?\n\n\"If there are Jews on the tape, then I don't know what to \nsay. I am speaking from experience when I say that those \nwho remained in Ethiopia are Christians. I know that \nthere have previously been things published in the press \nby interesting parties, and there is no connection \nbetween them and reality.\"\n\n\"What interested parties ?\"\n\n\"Ethiopian immigrants who want their Christian relatives \nto come here.\"\n\n\"What to you recommend that Ethiopian children in Israel \ndo, when their parents and the rest of their relatives \nremain in Ethiopia ?\"\n\n\"I ask if it is the job of the State of Israel to bring in the \n40 relatives who stayed in Ethiopia. Well, my answer is \nthat it is not. It would be a better solution, economically \nas well, for that young man to buy a one-way ticket to \nEthiopia and reunite with his family there.\"","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":" Let me get this right - sorry, try again.  Let me get this straight - \nwell maybe that too is a poor choice of words - someone might think \nI'm pushing a gay agenda.  How about:  let me try to understand this \nby re-phrasing it as an extreme.  I, as a minority of one, have no right \nto a beautiful world.  You, on the other hand have the right to make an \nugly one because you presume to speak for all the rest.  And I cannot \ncomplain.  Curious. \n\n.. \n\n\nAnd do you want everyone to do as you wish (insist on putting something \nup that will impact everyone for selfish reasons) _without_ any legislation?  \nAnd no one else can even object?  Somehow I think this whole shoving \ncontest has gotten way off the track.  I'm ready to let this thread \ndie a quick and merciful death. \n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nI understand that Adobe is working on making Photoshop available for\nthe SGI Indigo, but that is just \"rumor\" and I wouldn't bet on it\nuntil I see it. But they >are< going to release Illustrator for the SGI\n\"real soon now.\"\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Greetings netters,\n\tI have the following items for IMMEDIATE sale.  I need the money and\nif you need the stuff, we can work out a deal.  :)\n\nSharp single disk cd player\n\tOriginally paid oodles, but that was a couple of years ago.  It works\n\twell, has all the standards...(remote sensor[remote not included];\n\t20 track pragrammable memory; etc.)  I got a new one and need to sell\n\tthis one.  Please email me an offer!!  (it's the standard black \n\tcomponent style cd player)\n\n3.5\" 1.44 meg floppy drive\n\tA real IBM floppy drive with cable and mounting case.  I paid $40\n\ta couple of months ago.  The drive works (as last time in).  I\n\twould like to get the $40 back for it, but OBO applies.\n\n5.25\" 360K floppy drive\n\tI'm sure someone out there needs an extra 360K.  It works great and\n\tis nice and quiet.  Again, please email offer.\n\nRC10 remote control car\n\t4 time world leader design.  It was just overhauled.  It runs great,\n\teven though the body if not all that pretty.  Has new engine in it \n\tas well as racing pinion.  The chassis is nicked up from hard running,\n\tbut it's still a great car.  Does not include electronics.  Comes \n\twith monster truck conversion kit (wheel arms already installed)-virgin\n\ttruck body and bumper etc.  Car+kit=$100+20=$120 OBO...make an offer!\n\nD&D stuff...you name it, I probably have it.  Please send email regarding what\n\tyou want...or a request for sale list.  I hate to part with any of it, \n\tbut needs are needs, eh?  \n\nMisc CD's\n\tAlice in Chains - Facelift    $8\n\tSkid Row (self titled)  $8  both obo...really.\n\nBox of computer printer paper...paid $20 for it, make offer.\n\nI might have 4 1*9 meg **60** ns SIMMS forsale if I get a new motherboard...\n\tif you interested, the price is $40 a piece sold as a set.\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n(I presume you are quoting John 3:3-7.)\n\n1.  My King James Bible says \"Except a man be born of water \nand of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God\" \n(John 3:5).  (Here \"man\" == \"adult\").\n(However, this could be a quibble between translations.)\n\n2.  We can also analyze to whom the Lord is addressing:\n\"Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again\"\n(John 3:7).  Here Jesus is clearly directing his remarks\nto Nicodemus -- a ruler of the Jews (not a child).\n\n3.  We can ask ourselves why the Lord would even \nintroduce the concept of spiritual re-birth through\nbaptism if newborn babies weren't free from sin?\n\nA IDLER","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Just opened up the distribution.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"i    of course car safety is important.. I for one used to think that these \nguys are going way OTT with their airtbags (sorry del button dont work) and \nside impact bars and crash zones and (the list goes on) just tpo make the \ncar heavbier (and all its penalties) ... bur recently I had a little accident (on\nmy bike) and not as bad as John's ..... but after the accident - it made me \nrealizer I should have worn a helmet (my mom always insistede I should... I was\nmore concerned about my hair style).....","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I'm running xterm under X11R5, Motif 1.1, mwm and UNIX SVR4 on a UNISYS\n386 based machine. My default shell is \/bin\/csh or the C shell. Whenever\nI run xterm, I get the following message before the first C shell prompt:\n\nWarning: no access to tty; thus no job control in this shell...\n\nAfter this, I can't run any job control commands like fg, bg etc. Also,\nI can't run another xterm from the command line of this xterm (I can only\nlaunch additional xterms from a .mwmrc menu).\n\nI'd appreciate some help with this problem, or pointers to where I can get\nsome help. By the way, my environment variable TERM is set to xterm.\n\n----------------------------\nSaad Mufti\nPersonal Library Software","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"        Batse alone isn't always used to determine position.  WHen a\nparticularly bright burst occurs, There are a couple of other detectors that\ncatch it going off.  Pioneer 10 or 11 is the one I'm getting at here.  This\npuppy is far enough away, that if a bright burst happens nearby, the huge\nannulus created by it will hopefully intersect the line or general circle given\nby BATSE, and we can get a moderately accurate position. Say oh, 2 or 3\ndegrees. That is the closest anyone has ever gotten with it.  \n        Actually, my advisor, another classmate of mine, and me were talking\nthe other day about putting just one detector on one of the Pluto satellites. \nTHen we realized that the satellite alone is only carrying something like 200\npounds of eq.  Well, a BATSE detector needs lead shielding to protect it, and 1\nalone weighs about 200 pounds itself.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Looking for a TIFF\/EPS of a DNA Helix.  E-mail any auggestions, please.\n\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nFrom the May Computer Shopper magazine:\n\n\t\t\t\tNanao F550i\t\tNanao T560i\nTube Manufacturer\t\tMitsubishi\t\tSony Trinitron\nActive Screen Size (diag)\t15.5\"\t\t\t16.25\"\nMaximum Resolution\t\t1280x1024\t\t1280x1024\nVideo Bandwidth (Mhz)\t\t80\t\t\t120\nMin\/Max Vertcl scan rate (KHz)\t55\/90\t\t\t55\/90\nMin\/Max Horiz scan rate (KHz)\t30\/65\t\t\t30\/80\nDot Pitch (mm)\t\t\t0.28\t\t\t0.26\nSugg. List Price\t\t$1749\t\t\t$2699\nStreet Price\t\t\t$1059\t\t\t$1690","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I'm sure all of you have heard of the extraordiary start by  rookie\nJ.T. Snow of the California Angeles.  Other than the fact that his\nfather was a star receiver with the L.A. Rams and is now a radio\npersonality in Los Angeles and J.T. came from the Yankees organization\nI don't know much about J.T.  If anyone has info and background on \nthe young fenom....please post.\n\nBy the way, for those of you not following his exploits he has hit\nfour home runs in three days.  Two last night.  He has also delivered\nthe winning hit a couple of times for the Angeles in this young season.\n\nThanks...","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Organization: Temple University\nX-Newsreader: NNR\/VM S_1.3.2\n\nLast week I went to see a gastroenterologist. I had never met this\ndoctor before, and she did not know what I was there for. As soon as I\narrived, somebody showed me to an examining room and handed me a gown.\nThey told me to undress (from the waist down, to be exact) and wait for the\ndoctor. Is this the usual drill when you go to a doctor for the first\ntime? I don't have much experience going to doctors (knock on wood), but\non the couple of occasions when I've gone to a new doctor, I met him\nwith my clothes on. First, he introduced himself, asked what I was there\nfor and took a history, all before I undressed.\n \nAre patients usually expected to get naked before meeting a doctor\nfor the first time? Personally, I'd prefer to meet the doctor on\nsomething remotely resembling a condition of parity and to establish an\nidentity as a person who wears clothes before dropping my drawers. If\nnothing else, it minimizes the time that I have to spend in the self\nconscious, ill at ease and vulnerable condition of a person with a bare\nbottom talking to somebody who is fully clothed.\n \nDoes anybody besides me regard this get-naked-first-and-then-we-can-talk\nattitude as insensitive? Also, is it unusual?\n ","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Bill Coleman writes...\n \n(responding to a discussion about a mosque in Jerusalem allegedly \nhaving been destroyed by Israel)\n\nBC> In today's Jerusalem Post Magazine there is a feature story about the\nBC> ongoing restoration of synagogues in the Jewish Quarter.  The author,\nBC> Leah Abramowitz, writes that there were FIFTY-SEVEN synagogues in the\nBC> quarter in 1948, ALL of which were destroyed, some, she says, used as\nBC> donkey stables.  The building shells, that is.\nBC> \nBC> I still find it really, really hard to understand why the demolition\nBC> of the buildings in front of the Kotel continues to evoke more outrage\nBC> than this.  Everything is so much cheaper when it happens to the Jews.\nBC> \nBC> Why?\n \n    The double standard of human behavior regarding the Jews must\n    be manitained.\n\n    A perfect example is the outcry over the temporary removal of\n    400 men who advocated murdering Jews and destroying the State\n    of Israel, compared to the deafening silence over the abusive\n    treatment of Jews in Arab countries during the past 50 years.\n\n    Compare the tacit appoval that the world gives to Muslims who\n    randomly murder Jewish civilians to the righteous indignation\n    expressed if people in the occupied territories are kept from\n    working in Israel in an effort to reduce these random murders\n    from occuring, while everyone knows that no country is at all\n    required to accept foreign workers, except Israel, of course.\n\n    Jewish blood has always been cheap.  The non-Jewish world ha\n    never regarded any form of Jewish suffering important, except\n    when the Jews were the models of the powerless victim holding\n    the high moral ground, as it had been just after World War 2.  \n    However, as soon as the Jewish people started to take care of \n    themselves, the ancient hatred of Jews was unleashed again.  \n    \n    I doubt if the non-Jewish world is even capable of having any\n    compassion towards Jews as anti-semitism is so ancient and so\n    basic to both Christianity and Islam.  \n    \n    Golda Meir said that there would be peace when the Arabs love\n    their own children more than they hate the Jews.  And while I\n    know that there are more Arab parents who love their children \n    than those who would send their children out into the streets \n    to throw rocks at men trained to defend themselves with guns,\n    the world is so obsessed by a hatred of Jews trying to defend \n    themselves that they have yet to even question the actions of \n    those parents who not simply allow their children to do this, \n    but encourage them to throw themselves into harm's way.  Even \n    Arab children are expendable, if their tragic deaths are used \n    in the neverending propoganda battle to blame Israel, and the  \n    Jews, for any misfortune befalling Arabs in the middle east.\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Hi:\n\nI went to the orthopedist on Tuesday. He diagnosed me as having\n\"intersection syndrome\". He prescribed Feldene for me. I want\nto know more about the disease and the drug.\n\nThanks\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nUS House of Representatives\nWashington, DC 20515","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Hello all,\n\n          There is a small problem a friend of mine is experiencing and I \nwould appreciate any help at all with it.\n\nMy friend has been diagnosed as having a severe case of depression requiring \nantidepressants for a cure. The main problem is the side effects of these. \nSo far she has been prescribed Prozac, Aurorix, and tryptanol all with \ndifferent but unbearable side effects.\n\nThe Prozac gave very bad anxiety\/jitters and insomina, it was impossible to \nsit still for more than a minute or so.\n\nThe Aurorix whilst having a calming effect, all feelings were lost and the \nbody co-ordination was similar to a drunken person. Her brain was clouded \nover.\n\nThe tryptanol gave tremors in the legs and panic attacks along with unco- \nordination occurred. She did not know what she was doing as her brain was \n\"closed down\".\n\nHas anyone had similar problems and\/or have any suggestions as to the next \nstep?\n\nThankyou in advance.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\nWrong newsgroup or no, What did Syd mean when he wrote that line?","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Forgive me if this is stupid, but didn't I see a rumor somewhere that Apple\nwas working on an Intel platform OS.  Say like system 7 for 80X86's?","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Can anyone offer a suggestion on a problem I am having?\nI have several boards whose sole purpose is to decode DTMF tones and send\nthe resultant in ASCII to a PC.  These boards run on the serial interface.\nI need to run * of the boards somwehat simultaneously.  I need to be able to ho\nok them up to a PC>  The problem is, how do I hook up 8+ serial devices to one\nPC inexpensivley, so that all can send data simulataneously (or close to it)?\nAny help would be greatly appreciated!\nAbhin Singla\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"im interseted in buing some of those....I am a student at R.I.T. please reply saying how to contact you.....Ed\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Hi all.\n\nI've been installing a new hard drive recently and have run into several\nterms that I'm not sure about.\n\n1.) Hard Sectored\/Soft Sectored -- What's the difference?  How do I know\nwhich to use?\n\n2.) Head Skew & Cylinder Skew -- I understand that these are related to\nperformance... How do I know what's optimal?\n\nMy drive is an ESDI drive, if that makes a difference in discussing\nthese terms.\n\n\t\tAny info\/help is greatly appreciated!","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI went there too.  All I can say is\n\n\"TOO MUCH TRASH\".\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Re: Methods for attaching heat sink to processor.\n\nGo to Radio Shack and buy a tube of heat sink compound. It comes\nin a little blue and white tube with a black screw on cap.  At\nRadio Shack, it's catalog number 276-1372.  It's a mix of\nsilicone and zinc oxide, and conducts heat very well.  Plus, it's\ntacky.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI would argue Gerald, that Bowman is the first \"modern\" coach.\nBowman's Canadiens were the first NHL team to have a weight-room\nin the 70s.  He is the first coach I have seen, that manipulates\nthe press into spreading false game plan rumours.  (During important games\nlisten to the pre-game interview will Bowman and compare that to\nwhat is on the ice!)  I agree Bowman is a master of the lineups. \nRemember last year in the SC when he benched Jagr only to set him free \nin OT.  When Jagr banged in the winning goal I thought this was\ntrademark Bowman and also a sign of a modern coach!\n\nI am left asking \"What is a modern coach if not Bowman?\"","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"...\n\n\nI'm in Japan.\n(Michael, could you give me more info about where Akita is: nearest city\nwould be good)\n\nIf I find it, I'll get pictures and post a digitised version if enough\npeople are interested.\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI don't think mr. Clinton can even understand the technical details of\nthe clipper encryption scheme. So, his \"assurances\" are of no value at\nal, if he gives them he just says what a panel of experts(?) told him.\nIf I lived in the USA, I would hope those experts were not paid by the\n<fill here you favorite 3-letter combination>.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nThat would be the Opel GT, sold in this country from '69 to '73.  It originally\nhad a 1100 cc engine, which was later replaced by the 1900 cc.  It was based\non the old Kadett drive train and suspension, with leaf springs in the rear\nand a single transverse leaf spring in the front.  It looked good, but was\nlimited as a performer.\n\nThere has also been some discussion in this thread about the Manta and other\nmodels.  In 1971 Opel introduced a new line of models, the 1900 series, that\nwere also known as model numbers 51, 57, etc.  These cars had the newer\n1900cc engine and were available as two and four-door coupes, a station wagon,\nand a \"sport coupe\", known in Europe as the Manta.  At the same time, there\nwere two 30-series cars, which sold very few numbers, that also had the 1900\nengine but the Kadett suspension.  The sport coupe, (model 57) was also\navailable as the Rallye, (57R), with a blacked out hood, tach, and fog lights,\nbut was mechanically the same except for a numerically higher rear end ratio.\n\nIn 1973 the sport coupe was also named the Manta in the US.  1973 was the last\nyear for the GT in any country, both because of the US bumper height regulations\nand the fact that FIAT exercised an option on the factory that Opel was leasing\nto build the GTs.\n\nThe 1900 series continued in 1974 with minor body differences.  In 1975, the\nManta, 1900 sedan (also called the Ascona) and the wagon were available with\nBosch electronic fuel injection.  These cars also had larger brakes and\nwider wheels.  These cars were starting to compete with the 1975 Buick Century\nlow price leader of the time, and were the last Opels imported into the US.\n\nFrom 1976 to 1979, cars that sported Buick\/Opel badges were still sold by\nthe Buick dealers, but were rebadged Isuzu I-marks.  The idea was to call them\nOpels instead of changing the dealers' neon signs.\n\nVarious models of the 50-series cars dominated the Showroom Stock racing of the\n70's in their class, and were known as serious 2002-competition.\n\nParts are still available from a number of sources.\n\n(I still have a '73 manta and two '75 sedans and all the trick parts I could\ncollect in 20 years).","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"It's basement cleaning time.  This stuff has got to go.\n\nI have two boxes of 9 track 2400' tapes, around 20 tapes\/box.  They are\nfree to anyone who wants to come by and pick them up.  They've seen\nvery little use.  If anyone wants these bad enough to ship, they're yours\nfor the cost of shipping, the cod charge and a $10 nusiance fee.\n\nI have a lot of serial cables.  I have all kinds, ribbon, shielded, long,\nshort M-M, M-F whatever you want.  Most appear to work well with PC serial\nports, but I will not gaurantee that.  Tell me what you want and I'll do\nthe best I can to match.  1.50 ea or 10\/$10.  Shipping included.  No CODs\nunder $20.  (You want to pay a $5 COD charge for a $1.50 cable?  Go buy\nthe cable at your local computer store instead, it'll be cheaper.)  I believe\nthese cables were removed from service at a computer center.  They appear\nto be in good condition and the ones I have used have worked well.\n\nI also have a 15 KVA Exide UPS with batteries that needs minor repair, probably\na logic board.  It weighs about 280 pounds and is 36 inches high.  I think\nthey used to run a Prime system off of it.  Best offer over $75, but you \nneed to come pick it up.  Use this to run your house from your solar panels.\n\nI will consider reasonable offers on any of this stuff.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"the owners are whining about baseball not being popular among a\nlarge enough portion of the population, and have suggested various\n\"remedies\", such as shortening the game or trying to convince us that\n\"smoke'embake'emdominatebysheerintimidation\" is an accurate description\nof what is, essentially, a laid-back game.\n\nforget those lame ideas.  here is my new and exciting two-point plan to\ngenerate interest in baseball among the masses.\n\npoint one: sex.\npoint two: violence.\n\nlet's face it, sex and violence are the only things that sell in\namerica.  here's how we can implement them in the game:\n\nsex: cheerleaders, cheerleaders, and more cheerleaders.  dancing on top\n     of the dugouts.  bringing hot dogs to the umps during the seventh\n     inning stretch.  running up and down the stands.  (the south bend\n     white sox actually do this).\n\nviolence: baseball players are such utter wuss boys.  the pitcher beans\n     the batter, and both benches empty in what is called a \"bench-clearing\n     brawl\".  EVERYBODY JUST STANDS THERE AND LOOKS AT EACH OTHER. stand,\n     stand, stand.  look, look, look.  ho, hum.  then, the bullpens\n     come running in.  when they reach the \"fight\", they just stand\n     there, too.\n\n     anybody coming off the bench who does not throw at least one punch\n     should be suspended and fined.  further, the bullpens should fight\n     it out in the outfield, so as not to waste time and energy running\n     to the infield.\n\nfootball: sex, violence.\nbasketball: sex, violence.\nhockey: violence.\nbaseball: \"da pastime of da nayshun!\" - yawn.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\tThe War on some drugs has already turned alot of police into\n\tcriminals.  This is yet another nail in the constitution's coffin.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
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{"text":"\nRegardless, they'd have to sparkle from the pressbox.  Errey's been\nout a couple games with a hip injury.\n\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I know this is the wrong place to post this, but I couldn't find any\nrelevant newsgroups in my area.\n\nFor those of you who are from PA, where is VASCAR (where the cops\nmeasure your speed from the time it takes you to cross the distance\nbetween two white lines on the road, right?) most commonly used?  I'm\nespecially interested in the Pittsburgh area (specific locations, prior\nexperiences, if possible).  For those PA and non-PA, if they use VASCAR\nin your state, is it most common in rural, city, highway areas, etc. \nWhat I'm interested in mainly is where I can speed with the least risk\nof being caught.  You can always detect radar, but there's no way to\nfight VASCAR unless you know where all the white lines are.\n\nThanks a lot,","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"[ stuff deleted ]\n\nThe French SPOT is an example that comes to mind.  Although the\ncompany (name escapes me at the moment) sells images world-wide, you\ncan bet your last dollar (franc??) that the French gov't gets first\ndibs.\n\nI remember a few years ago (about the time SPOT was launched), I\nwas speaking to my Dad (an USAF officer) about this and that, and I\nhappend to mention SPOT (I think we were talking about technology\nutilization).  He just about went ballistic.  He wanted to know how I\nknew about SPOT and just what I knew.  I guess that space surveillance\nis such a sensitive topic in the Air Force that he couldn't believe\nthat I would read about such a system in the popular press (ie. AV week).\n\nmark, ","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Hey,guess what's coming to ESPN for a change? A playoff which doesn't\ninvolve the Pens. Not that there is anything wrong with that...\n\nESPN games :\n\nThursday  Game3 Pens at Devils at 7:30(Gary Thorne and Bill Clement)\nSaturday  Game4 Caps at NY Isles at 7:30(Tom Mees and John Davidson)\n\nABC game :\n\nSunday    Game4 Pens at Devils at 1:00 (Gary Thorne and Bill Clement)\n\nESPN named its #2 broadcast team on Tuesday. It paired Tom Mees(play by\nplay) with John Davidson(analyst).","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"To all the Braves doubters:\n\nDon't worry.  The bats will come alive, and the Braves will come around.\nThe pitching is solid, and as long the Braves don't have serious injuries\nto the starting rotation, they'll continue to pitch well.  Heck, with\nthe five starters on the Braves rotation, they could even sustain an\ninjury to one of the five (I hope this doesn't happen, though).\n\nThe bats are there... Pendleton will certainly bat over .280, Justice\nis catching fire, Bream, Nixon, Sanders, Gant... well, there's too\nmuch offense there to be kept quiet for much longer.  Right now, the\nCleveland Indians have 7 players batting over .300!  But I certainly\nwouldn't their seven for our respective seven (though wouldn't the\nBraves be something right now with their pitching and 7 players batting\nover .300?).\n\nThe bullpen... well, it IS suspect.  But when the bats come alive, the\nguys in the bullpen will be of less concern.\n\nSo anyway, I believe the Braves will be tough to beat this season.  I'm\nnot saying the Braves have automatically won the division, but I'm optim-\nistic about their season (though it's awful painful to watch them at\ntimes right now).\n\nGo Braves!!!","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"1528.98\n                         ^^^^^^^^\n\nHmm, new Duo machines to be released 07\/13\/93 ?\n\n\nSincerely,\nLars","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nOops...small mistake.  Thanks for mentioning it.  I just read on\nthe.Israel.line that a village just got shelled by terrorists last week \nand some children were killed.  I guess the terrorists must have gotten by\nthe security zone.  Just think at how much more shelling would be \nhappening if the security zone weren't there.\nL8r...\n\n   Steve\n-- ","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Hello,\n\nI want a little network for 3 users. All users want to run Windows.\nThe most important things I want for the network are: file-sharing,\nmail utility, two printers on one of the computers and a fax\/modem\ncard on one of the computers. We all want to use each others harddisk.\n\nMy idea was to buy three computers (one 486DX and two 386DX). All\nthree have a 40Mb local harddisk, the 486 also has a very large\nharddisk. All three also have a network card. The 486 is connected to\nthe printers and contains the fax\/modem card. And last but not least:\nWorkgroups for Windows.\n\nMy questions:\n- Is this possible?\n- What exactly are the possibilities and advantages of Workgroups\n  for Windows?\n- Will all the computers be fast enough? Behind all three, someone\n  is working.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nIf your distance calc is correct for an \"on the road distance\" (and not\nas the crow flies), this is 900km a day for 5 days.  If you spend the\nentire time on interstates, which would be a total waste of time, that's\nat least 8 hours on the road every day not including eating\/peeing\/\nsight-seeing etc.\n\nI was contemplating a similar trip, but from Ottawa to LA, or\nmaybe Ottawa to Austin Tx.  \n\nI figured if I wanna do a trip of this magnitude and enjoy it, I'd\nhave to get my ass off the major Interstates and spend LOTS of\ntime enjoying the country around me; i.e. stopping with a camera,\nmeeting towns-people, going to a few bars.  No sense spending 2 weeks\nlooking out a helmet with the closest human contact found at the gas\npump.\n\nI estimated I'd need at least 4-5 weeks to make the trip worthwhile.\n\n\nIn question 8:)\n\n\nTry and stay off the interstates!!!\n\n\nDepending on your route and my plans, I may be heading that way as far\nas at least Detroit.\n\n\n\nCall the Whithorse Pess.  They're a book distributer catering to\nMotorcyclists.  They have a large number of books highlighting\nthe best roads FOR MOTORCYCLISTS along the general route\nyou're looking at.  They carry listings of bed and breakfasts\nall through the States which accept motorcyclists.  Order their free\ncatalog and within you'll probably find books covering absolutely\nall you needs for this trip.  Their #'s in the Motorcyclist and\/or\nCycle World classifieds.\n\n\nO.K.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Ken:\n\nYour arguments are thoughtful but you are going up against the Big\nBoys if you're tackling Henry.  Allen Sherzer will doubtless chime in\non the subject of staggering operational costs, too.  Good luck, son.\n\n\nAhem.  The Russians are in the Free World now, or at least it would be\nPolitically Correct to contend so.\n\n\nIt will be tough to make DC-X succeed, and to turn it into an\noperational orbital vehicle.  Doubtless it will fail to meet some of\nthe promised goals.  The reason people are so fond of it is that it's\nthe *only* chance we have now, or will have for a *long* time to come,\nto develop a launch vehicle with radically lower costs.  \n\nThere is no Shuttle successor in funded development, NASP is dwindling\naway, and ALS\/NLS\/Spacelifter sure as hell aren't gonna knock any\nzeroes off that $2000-$3000 per pound cost.   Part of the blame for\nthis must be placed on a Shuttle program that consumes many annual\nbillions of the, er, Free World's available space cash.  As you will\nno doubt hear from many correspondents in the days to come. (-:\n\nDC-X is an attempt to break out of the vicious cycle by keeping\ndevelopment costs low and flying incremental \"X-plane\" hardware.\nIt's been, to my mind, incredibly successful already-- they've built a\ncomplex prototype in under 600 days for under 60 megabucks.  I would\nhave been extremely skeptical that this could be accomplished in 1990s\nAmerica, never mind flying the thing, getting a successor funded, or\nbuilding the DC-Y.\n\nI'm sure you know well that launch costs are THE basic problem for any\nexpansion of astronautics.  I don't see a realistic  prospect for\nbeating down those costs, for multi-ton payloads, anywhere else.  If\nthe DC flops, it'll be business as usual in space.  The Nineties and\nthe Double-Oughts will look just like the Seventies and Eighties, a\nprospect too depressing to bear.\n\n(Pegasus represents another assault on the problem from a different\ndirection.  It doesn't lower cost-per-pound but it offers an orbital\nlaunch for under ten megabucks.  It's creating its own market for\nsmall payloads.)\n\nI read the magazines and I've attended the last two IAFs. There are\nplenty of engineers with paper ideas for cheaper launch systems, some\nof them as good as or better than SSTO.  There is no sign in today's\nworld that any of these designs will be allowed anywhere near an\nassembly line.\n\n[...deleting some things I'm not going to prove tonight...]\n\nStrawman.  Is anybody seriously proposing this?  References, please. \nThe DC must be developed in the real-world funding climate, which\nincludes a NASA ferociously committed to continuing Shuttle\noperations, as well as the \"bird in the hand\" argument your common\nsense tells you.   If DC-Y flies at all, it flies alongside the\nShuttle, not instead of it.\n\nAlso, of course, DC-Y and its operational descendants will be useful\nfor a wide variety of jobs even if they are *not* man-rated.\n\n\nIf a DC-X successor can fly a 10,000-kg payload for $1M, or even $5M,\nrather than the $40M it now costs, more people will be able to afford\nmore payloads... for the same money, you can fly several satellites\ninstead of one.  Big outfits can fly multi-satellite series.  Little\noutfits will be able to fly spacecraft of their own, instead of\nbegging a ride.  This is just supply and demand.  You should be able\nto convince *yourself* that point 4 will be true, assuming DC makes a\nbig difference in costs.  Do you have some reason to think not?","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"[...]\n\nOK Steve, here's a sketch of an alternative that I believe addresses\nmost of the objections to the Clipper scheme.\n\nNotation:\n\t+\tconcatenation\n\t^\texclusive or\n\tE(M,K)\tmessage M encrypted by key K\n\tD(M,K)\tmessage M decrypted by key K\n\tH(M)\thash (digest\/signature) of message M\n\nImportant Values:\n\tU0[X]\t\tlocal chip unit key from escrow agency X\n\tU1[X]\t\tremote chip unit key from escrow agency X\n\tN[0]\t\tserial number of the local chip\n\tN[1]\t\tserial number of the remote chip\n\tA\t\tnumber of escrow agencies\n\tK[0],K[1]\t\"session keys\" agreed upon external to this protocol\n\tF\t\t\"family key\", need not be secret\n\nProtocol:\n\tChoose K0[1],...K0[A] such that K[0] = K0[1]^...^K0[A]\n\tRemote chip does same for K[1],K1[1],...,K1[A].\n\n\tCompute the following:\n\n\t\tL0[1] = E(K0[1], U0[1])\n\t\t...\n\t\tL0[A] = E(K0[A], U0[A])\n\n\t\tL[0] = N[0] + E(N[0] + L0[1] + ... + L0[A], F)\n\n\t\tRemote chip does the same for L1[1],...,L1[A],L[1]\n\n\tSend L[0] to remote chip and receive L[1] from remote chip\n\n\tCompute:\n\n\t\tKE[0] = H(K[0] + N[0] + L0[1] + ... + L0[A]\n\t\t\t+ K[1] + D(L[1], F)\n\n\t\tKD[0] = H(K[1] + D(L[1], F)\n\t\t\t+ K[0] + N[0] + L0[1] + ... + L0[A]\n\n\t\tNote that D(L[1], F) = N[1] + L1[1] + ... + L1[A]\n\n\t\tRemote chip does the same for KE[1] and KD[1]\n\n\tUser data is encrypted (decrypted) with keys KE[0], KE[1]\n\t\t(KD[0], KD[1])\n\nAssumptions:\n\tNo trap doors in E(), D() and H(). H() is not invertible.\n\n\tAlgorithms for E(), D() and H() are secret. Otherwise a software\n\timplementation (bogus chip) could communicate with a real chip.\n\n\tThe chip only supports the following operation:\n\n\t\t1)  Return N[0]\n\t\t2)  Load K0[x]\n\t\t3)  Return E(K0[x], U0[x])\n\t\t4)  Return E(N[0] + L0[1] + ... + L0[A], F)\n\t\t5)  Given E(N[1] + L1[1] + ... + L1[A], F),\n\t\t\treturn N[1],L1[1],...,L1[A]\n\t\t6)  Load K[1]\n\t\t7)  Given E(N[1] + L1[1] + ... + L1[A], F),\n\t\t\tcompute KE[0], KD[0]\n\t\t8)  Given M, return E(M, KE[0])\n\t\t9)  Given M, return D(M, KD[0])\n\n\tAnything programmed into the chip can be determined by destroying\n\tthe chip (U[1],...,U[A],F,N[0]).\n\n\tU[1],...,U[A] can not be determined except by destroying the chip.\n\t(Unfortunately this may not be true in reality. I suppose it's\n\tpossible to determine how a chip has been programmed with a\n\tsophisticated[sp?] x-ray machine to look for blown fuses.)\n\n\tThe U's are programmed independantly by the escrow agencies.\n\nNotes:\n\tFor tapping escrow agency Y is given N[0], E(K0[Y], U0[Y]), N[1],\n\tE(K1[Y], U1[Y]) and returns K0[Y], K1[Y].\n\n\tLEA's must contact all escrow agencies with the serial numbers from\n\tboth chips and the encrypted partial keys. This allows the agencies\n\tto record that both chips were tapped.\n\n\tLEA's only get the session key, not the key to all conversations\n\tof a particular chip. This precludes real-time decrypting of a\n\tconversation but that isn't one of the STATED requirements.\n\nObservation:\n\tIn order for any secure by \"tap-able\" communication scheme to work,\n\tthe active parts need to share a secret. And if this secret is\n\trevealed, communications by those that know the secret can be made\n\t\"un-tap-able\". Obvious candidates are the cryptographic algorithm\n\tand the master (family) key. Relative size and complexity suggests\n\tthat the key can be obtained from a silicon implementation of the\n\tscheme a LOT easier and faster than the algorithm.\n\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\trsbx\n\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nRaymond S. Brand\t\t\t\t\trbrand@usasoc.soc.mil","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I am looking for the specs for the .mpg files that are floating around\nthe alt.binaries.pictures.* groups on the net.  Please lemme know where\nI can obtain the spec or email it to me.\n\nThanks much.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Here is a press release from the American Federation of Teachers.\n\n HHS Secretary Shalala to Address AFT's Paraprofessional and\nSchool-Related Personnel Conference\n To: National and Assignment desks, Education Writer\n Contact: Jamie Horwitz of American Federation of Teachers,\n          202-879-4447\n\n   News Advisory:\n\n   Secretary of Health and Human Services Donna Shalala will speak\nto the 16th annual AFT Paraprofessional and School-Related\nPersonnel Conference at 8 p.m., Friday, April 23, at the\nWashington Hilton.  Shalala will discuss HHS's agenda for helping\nchildren over the next four years.\n   AFT's Paraprofessional and School-Related Personnel Division\nincludes school workers such as paraprofessionals and teacher\naides, school bus drivers, school secretaries, school custodians\nand maintenance workers and school food service workers.  More\nthan a thousand school employees will attend the conference which\nis being held at the Washington Hilton, April 23-25.  Most of the\nschool workers attending the conference come from urban school\ndistricts where child health and nutrition, welfare reform and the\navailability of Head Start and other preschool programs are major\nissues.\n   Workshops scheduled for the conference include sessions\naddressing issues around reauthorization of Chapter 1; how\nparaprofessionals and school-related personnel, especially\nminority men, can serve as student role models; the increasing\nproblem of school violence; dealing with abused children; and\nassisting children with serious health problems.\n   For a complete conference schedule, contact Jamie Horwitz\nat 202-879-4447.\n   The American Federation of Teachers represents 805,000\nelementary and secondary teachers, paraprofessionals and\nschool-related personnel, higher education faculty, nurses, state\nand municipal workers.\n -30-","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nYou have yet to answer any or all of my questions and challenges to your \nstatements.  By this am I to assume that you are unable to do so?  Or just\nplain unwilling due to your lack of proof\/intelligence?  So what next?  I \nprove you wrong so you just put me in your killfile?\n\nYour lack of reasoned response seems to be a typical Clayton response.\n\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nNo.  It is very relevant.  Homosexual acts and acts of beastiality are\ntopically aranged together in the law.  This is very important.\nAnyone who would want to say that this command against homosexuality\ndeals with temple prostitution (and I think you would agree that there\nis no proof for this.)  If the Law reveals the character of God, and \nis \"holy, just, and good\" as is written in the New Testament, then\nthose who consider we who are against commiting homosexuals acts\nto be biggots have to address this passage of Scripture.  \n\nWhy must we only discuss Scriptures that involve consensual human\nadult relationships?  Isn't that bordering on sophistry?  The point\nwe are making is that God did not ordain certain kinds of sex acts.\nNot everyone who brings up these Scriptures is just trying to use and emotional\nargument that compares homosexuals to beastophiles and child molestors.\nThe issue we are dealing with is that some sex acts are ungodly.  \n\nI do not have problem with a loving, nonlustful relationship with a member\nof the same sex.  I have them, and we all do.  The issue at hand is \nthe sinfulness having sex with members of the same sex, or lusting after.\nSo other forbidden sex acts are a valid topic for conversation. \n\nAnd the idea that these relationships may be  emotional  relationships\nbetween adult humans is red herring.  We all agree that it is okay \nfor adults to  have caring relationships with one another.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\t[ ... Useful info about the Maxtor drive deleted ... ]\n\n\n\tHowever, Thad, you should note that he said that he would like to\nuse it on a 'PC', not 'UNIX-PC'.  Also note the strange cross-posting (as he\nprobably did not), so it is not sure exactly what sort of machine he intends\nto mount it on.  If it *is* a PC (or clone), then the \"2C\" jumper would be\nthe correct choice.\n\n\tI've left the cross-posting in effect, since I'm not sure which\nnewsgroup he would really be reading this in. :-)\n\n\tDoN.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nAs far as I can tell, he was right next to Bassen!\n\nDon't you guys love it when people like me come out of the woodwork...8^)","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n\nI have a copy.  It isn't in there.  Microsoft says it will not be in\nthe release version, either.  He just asked if it did or not.  I told\nhim. \n\n\nYou're welcome.\n\n-- \n\"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live\n in the real world.\"   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
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{"text":"I am looking of information regarding UIMX. I believe this is an application\nfront end generator tool for Motif (among others). Whould someone given me a\ncontact? I need to get hold of the programmers' guide, or something like it.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Hi! I've just installed the new XArchie 2.0.1 and it all works\nfine, except:\n\non our grayscale xterm the custom icons compiled into the\nprogram don't work at all, but on the BW terminal it works fine.\nI can set the icon to an xbm file with .twmrc, but that doesn't\ngive the neat-o change when busy action. (Other programs with\nsimilar actions, e.g. xmail, xbiff, work fine.)\n\nThe X-interface author, George Ferguson, suggests it might be a\nproblem with the X intrinsics, but isn't willing to hack around\nto fix it himself. But I know zero about X programming, so I\ndon't think I can find it. \n\nDoes anyone out there know an obvious fix for the problem?\n\nAndrew\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\nBack in January and February there were several articles (Wash Post, Time...)\nsaying that NASA was \"considering\" the option just as it is now \"considering\"\na followup mission 6-12 months after the servicing mission.  However, the\ndown time was estimated to be a year+ (servicing, checkout, sceheduling\nand training another shuttle, orbit verification...) and to be quite\nexpensive.  I think it may have been more a mental exercise than a\nreal plan.  Don't know.\n \n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nRobert Dempsey                                 (410) 338-1334\nSTScI\/PODPS                                                                   \n\n\"He which hath no stomach for this fight, Let him depart; his passport\nshall be made, and crowns for convoy put into his purse: We would not die\nin this man's company that fears his fellowship to die with us.\" -Shakespeare","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nWell, I don't normally like to quote myself, but I just got some\nadditional information.  I called my state rep (to express my support),\nand the person there informed me that it's actually just a second\nreading of the bill (three are required) for further consideration.\nI'm not 100% sure what *that* means, and I'm also not sure why\nthere's a discrepancy between what the two offices are telling me.\n\nStill researching....\n\nDaryl","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nActually, I've got an entire list of books written by various atheist\nauthors and I went to the largest bookstore in my area (Pittsburgh) and\ncouldn't find _any_ of them.  What section of the bookstore do you find\nthese kinds of books in?  Do you have to look in an \"alternative\" bookstore\nfor most of them?  Any help would be appreciated (I can send you the list\nif you want).","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nMr. Oguocha,\n  \"Muslims\" in the Bosnian context are in fact \"Turks\"... In fact, correct\n  me if I am wrong, Serbs are attacking Bosnians with their battle cries\n  \"Death to the Turks!\". \n\n  Is this so shocking? Years of communism apparently suppressed their \n  hatred and anger towards the Turks. But such hatred is obviously one that\n  dies hard. \n  \n  Serbs must understand, Turks are no longer the good old barbarians world\n  has come to know by propaganda after propaganda. \n  \n  Serbs must further understand that barbarism does not work. \n  \n  Serbs must even further understand that barbarism would one day have\n  to face counter-barbarism. So, I urge those people [Serbs] to stop\n  killing Bosnian women and children. And they must never forget that\n  Turks in the motherland are watching...patiently.\n  \n Cordially,","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"From article <1993Apr25.201129.1239@Princeton.EDU>, by fuchs@tsar.princeton.edu (Ira H. Fuchs):\n generally,  the corrosion is a signal that it's time to send them\n of to the recyclers, but if you're that desperate or cheap try \nbaking soda and a wire brush. use gloves and goggles, please!\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nA dealer will make money off you in three ways, if you let him:\n\n\t1)  New car markup over his cost (remember his hold-back),\n\t2)  Arranging financing through the dealership, and\n\t3)  Screwing you on the trade.\n\nKeep the deal with the dealer simple by eliminating 2 & 3.  Buying a car at \n\"dealer's cost\" is meaningless if he makes $1000 on the trade and\/or gets a \nkickback from the bank.\n\nBlue book (you need to know if you're talking average wholesale or average \nretail) is a good guide to value for a car.  If you are selling it yourself, \ntry to get average retail, and chances are you'll have done ok.\n\nBe careful selling to acquaintances if you ever want them to become friends.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nI don't remember the article that you removed so I can't comment on it.\nWhat I can comment on though is your response.\n\nDo you really believe that what you wrote is sufficient to refute the article?\nDo have any facts in addition to your opinion?","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I'm a fellow applicant and my situation is not too much better.  I applied\nto about 20 schools, got two interviews, got one offer, and am waiting to\nhear from the other school.\n\nLet me be honest about my experiences and impressions about the medical\nschool admissions process.  Numbers (GPA, MCATs) are not everything, \nbut they are probably more important than anything else.  In fact, some\nschools screen out applicants based on these numbers and never even look\nat your other qualities.  Of course, when this happens, don't expect a refund\non your $50 application fee.\n\nBut, the fact that you got four interviews tells me that you have the numbers\nand are very well qualified academically.  You mentioned one response, was it\nan acceptance, denial, or wait-list?  If I assume the worst, that it was a\ndenial, then you still have a great probability of acceptance somewhere.  How\ndid your interviews go?\n\nAs for how long you have to wait, I've called a few schools who never contacted\nme for anything.  Many of them told me that the interview season for them was\nover and that if I haven't heard by now, I can assume a denial.  Many rejection\nletters are not sent out until May or as late as June.  But some schools are\nstill interviewing. I really don't think you should worry.  Don't become\nfixated on the mailbox, go out, have fun, be very proud of yourself.\n\nWhat do people think of the medical school admissions process?  I had a very\nmediocre GPA, but high MCAT scores, and I have been working as a software\nengineer for two years.  I majored in Computer Science at Stanford.  Still,\nI think the profile of the person who has the best chance of getting admitted\nis something like this:\n\nVERY IMPORTANT\n--------------\nGPA:\t3.5 or better\nMCAT:   top 15% in all subject\n\nMEDIUM IMPORTANCE\n-----------------\nWriting\/Speaking ability\nMaturity\nMotivation for going into medicine\nActivities\n\nLESS IMPORTANT\n--------------\nCollege or University\nMajor\nWork experience\nAnything else you want them to know\n\n\nAnyway, you are in good shape.  I think admissions committees are bound in\nmany ways by the numbers, but would like very much to understand each\nperson as an individual.  Sometimes thats just not practical.  But getting \nfour interviews is an indicator that you have the numbers.  Hopefully, you\nwere able to impress them with your character.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"I can see it now emblazened across the evening sky --","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nWrong, the CD300 (external) is just a plain ol' SCSI device.\n\n\nNo, multisession capability and double speed are two different thing.  Its just  \nthat the newer CD ROM drives have both capability.  Multisession means that  \nwhen you put more pictures on a photo CD after the first session, the drive can  \nread and display them.  Double speeds just transfer ANY type of data (excluding  \nsound) at around double the speed.\n\n \nCD150 is not multisession capable.  This means that you lose the ability to add  \nany more pictures after the first time (must buy a new CD).  Finally, since the  \nCD150 is not a double speed drive, it will require twice as long to transfer  \ndata (excluding sound).","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"It seems silly, but while I've located things like tgif that can  edit\ngif  files, and various tools to convert to\/from gif format, I haven't\nbeen able to locate a program that just opens a window and displays  a\ngif file in it.  I've looked thru various faq files, also to no avail.\nIs there one lurking about in some  archive?   Nothing  sophisticated;\njust \"show the pretty picture\"?\n\nAlternatively, if I could locate the specs for gif, I don't suppose it\nwould be too hard to write it myself, but I have no idea where to even\nstart looking for the spec.  (Well, actually, I do have an idea - this\nnewsgroup.  ;-)\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"PUFF is sold by CalTech, although very inexpensively for the quality.\nSource was also available for the earlier releases for a nominal charge,\nbut I'm not sure if this practise is continued.\n\n \nRegards, Stu Beal, VE3MWM, U009@CSX.CCIW.CA,\nNational Water Research Institute, Burlington, Ontario, Canada.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nIt is not just you.  I have been aggravated many times by the mouse making\nhay of my maladroitness, and would be _ever_ grateful to everyone who would\nmake keyboard alternatives for ALL mouse actions.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I cant get through to the author of rtrace. His site is inaccessible\ncan he upload the new version somewhere else please?\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nI never advocated not saying what you believe in.  I'm advocating second\nthought, and calm.  \n\n\"A smart warrior defeats the enemy in ambush on the battlefield\"\n\"A smarter warrior defeats the enemy in open warfare on the battlefield\"\n\"The smartest warrior defeats the enemy without using the battlefield\"\n\nThink about it.  \n\n\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nIf what was being discussed could be established or disproven by \nexperiment and observation, then I would agree with you, Chris.  \nThe burden of proof would belong to Bill. But the source\ndocument for Christianity, the Bible, simply assumes God exists\nand makes it clear (to us Calvinists, anyway :-)) that when a person\nis in fellowship with God, it is because God has taken the initiative\nin revealing Himself to that person. So from a Christian point of\nview, the burden of proof belongs to God. Bill is being consistent\nwith what the Bible teaches in relating his own experience with God,\nbut it would be an error on his part to assume that there is a direct,\ncausal relationship between his testimony and someone else becoming\nconvinced that God exists and that he needs to be reconciled to God.\n\n\nPlease excuse me if I missed an earlier part of this thread\nin which Bill came across like an egotist. What I saw was simply\nobedience to the scriptural command to \"always be ready\nto give a reason for the joy that is in you\".  ","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"  \nAs the owner of a V65 Sabre (shaftie), I can answer from personal experience:\n\nAieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Does anyone know if MSG will televise any of the Binghampton Rangers playoff\ngames.  Even taped replays would be nice?\n\n\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nGod never changes.  He still loves us.  Sending Jesus was one of His\nattempts to reconcile with mankind.  The nature of God has not changed.\n\n\nSinning in the face of God was punishable by immediate death.  There are\nseveral OT passages to back this up.  God is God.  He cannot tolerate\nthe prescence of sin in His midst.  And the Israelites knew this!  And\nstill, some of them chose to disobey and were destroyed.  Were these\npeople KIND and LOVing themselves?  God gave them every break He could\nbut in the end, He really had no choice in the matter.  Seeing as how\nwe were failing to achieve salvation on our own, He sent His Son to die\nfor us - to be the ultimate sin offering.  Now we live in the age of\ngrace.\n\n\n\nHe sent His Son as a consolation to us, out of love.\n \n\nHey, let's be fair for a moment here.  KIND and LOVING does not mean\na free ride.  There is an amount of give and take as in any relationship.\nParents are supposed to be kind and loving but does that mean that \nchildren can do whatever they want?  NOT!  Part of being a parent means\nadministering punishment when the child is at fault.  Part of being a \nparent means giving instruction.  God tests us through the trial of\nlife such that we may grow stronger.  He teaches what is right and \nwhat is wrong.  The consequences of our actions are made clear to us,\nbe it Heaven or be it Hell.  If God did not follow through with what\nHe has warned us about, He would not be a very good parent.\n\nIn parenting, if a parent issues a warning but does not follow through\nwith it, the children will not take that parent's words very seriously.\nGod does the same by telling us who have ears to hear what to do and\nwhat not to do.  By life's trials, we see the folly of doing our own\nwill rather than His.  He warns us about the consequences of rejecting\nHim when it comes time for Judgement.  Do we follow Him?\n\nI will.\n\nPeace be with you,\n\nMalcolm Lee  :)\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nWow, is that custom made?\n\nI wish I could get chain drive for my slashfive so\nI _too_ can do wheelies and be real squiddly.\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nThe VRAM SIMMs go in the slots at the back - closest to the power supply.\n\nDavid Gutierrez\ndrg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"But after you have taken antihistamines for a few nights, doesn't it start\nto have a paradoxical effect?  I used to take one every night for\nallergies and couldn't figure out why I developed bad insomnia.  Finally\nfigured out it was the antihistamines.  I would fall asleep for a few\nminutes but would awaken at the drop of a pin a little later and could not\nget back to sleep.  I don't have that problem since I stopped the\nantihistamines at bedtime.  ?","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nIn your menu definition, put:\n\n    \"Quit TWM\" f.function \"Execute and Quit\"\n\nThen define:\n\nFunction \"Execute and Quit\" {\n    !\"some_program\"\n    f.quit\n}\n\n-- \nBarry Margolin\nSystem Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I guess I'm delving into a religious language area.  What exactly is morality \nor morals?  I never thought of eating meat to be moral or immoral, but I think\nit could be.  How do we differentiate between not doing something because it is\na personal choice or preference and not doing something because we see it as \nimmoral?  Do we fall to what the basis of these morals are?\n\nAlso, consensus positions fall to a might makes right.  Or, as you brought out,\nif whatever is right is what is societally mandated then whoever is in control\nat the time makes what is right\n\nMC\nMAC\n--\n****************************************************************\n                                                    Michael A. Cobb\n \"...and I won't raise taxes on the middle     University of Illinois\n    class to pay for my programs.\"                 Champaign-Urbana\n          -Bill Clinton 3rd Debate             cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I am a student from San Leandro High school.  I am doing a research\nproject for physics and I would like information on Edward Jenner and the\nvaccination for small pox.  Any information at all would be greatly\napprectiated.  Thank you.\n\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"[Discussion on Piracy Deleted]\nMy own practice with new software :\n\nmake a copy of the original floppies to a second set of floppies.\n\ninstall to hard drive from second set of floppies.\n\nput originals in a box in room number one.\n\nput copies in box in room number two.\n\n1) Accidents DO happen to original floppies.\n2) Accidents CAN happen to the installation floppy.\n3) Sometimes software goes out on floppies that are JUST marginally good.  Or\n   gets too close to a magnet in shipping or storage.\n\nI've had experience with SOMETHING like the last.  I purchased a compiler from\na reputable vendor.  THe debugger in the package just would NOT install to the\nhard drive. NO WAY.  Repeated floppy-to-floppy copies FINALLY got a clean read\nof the disk.  I DON'T recall if I used \"diskcopy\", \"copy\/b\", or \"xcopy\".\n\nI made a second copy of the marginal floppy and installed from that.  No problenms ( except with my typing :-)  ) since.\n\nI regard backup floppies as CHEAP insurance.\n\nJust my side of the question...","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"THIS IS WHAT I CAME UP WITH USING THE FINAL REGULAR SEASON STATS FOR THE\n92\/93, WHICH YOU CAN FIND IN THE APRIL 22, 1993 EDITION OF THE USA TODAY!\nTRY IT OUT AND SEE WHAT YOU COME UP WITH.....\n\n 1. ADAM OATES           C    BRUINS     145 PTS\n 2. TEEMU SELANNE       RW    JETS       136 PTS\n 3. ALEXANDER MOGILNY   RW    SABRES     131 PTS\n 4. PAVEL BURE          RW    CANUCKS    116 PTS\n 5. VINCENT DAMPHOUSSE  LW    CANADIANS  106 PTS\n 6. DAVE ANDREYCHUK     LW    MAPLELEAFS 104 PTS\n 7. PHIL HOUSLEY        RD    JETS       103 PTS\n 8. PAUL COFFEY         RD    REDWINGS    94 PTS\n 9. SERGEI FEDOROV       C    REDWINGS    94 PTS\n10. ANDY MOOG            G    BRUINS      86 PTS\n11. AL INFRATE          RD    CAPITIALS   82 PTS\n12. PATRICK ROY          G    CANADIANS   76 PTS\n13. AL MACINNIS         LD    FLAMES      60 PTS\n14. DENNIS SAVARD        C    CANADIANS   59 PTS\n15. CALLE JOHANSSON     LD    CAPITALS    50 PTS\n16. YURI KHMYLEV        LW    SABRES      41 PTS\n17. RICHARD SMEHLIK     LD    SABRES      36 PTS\n------------------------------------------------\n    TOTAL POINTS                        1519 PTS","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Does anyone know of research done on the use of haldol in the elderly?  Does \nshort-term use of the drug ever produce long-term side-effects after\nthe use of the drug?  My grandmother recently had to be hospitalized\nand was given large doses of haldol for several weeks.  Although the\ndrug has been terminated, she has changed from a perky, slightly\nsenile woman into a virtual vegetable who does not talk to anyone\nand who cannot even eat or brush her teeth without assistance.  It\nseems incredible to me that such changes could take place in the\ncourse of just one and one-half months.  I have to believe that the\ncombination of the hospital stay and some drug(s) are in part\ncatalysts for this.  Any comments?\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n     Well, almost. It turns out that clever orbital mechanics can \nengineer things so that resonant interactions with the higher order \nharmonics of the Earth's gravitational field can pump energy into a \nsatellite, and keep it from experiencing drag effects for periods of \nmonths to years. \n\n     My favorite example of this is the Soviet\/Russian heavy ELINT \nsatellites of the Cosmos 1603 class, which are in 14:1 resonance. In \nparticular, C1833 has undergone two periods of prolonged *gain* in \naltitude, the current one having started in June 1991; the mean altitude \nof the satellite is now as high as it has ever been since launch on 18 \nMarch 1987. (Looking at the elements for C1833 also shows the \nlimitations of NORAD's software -- but that's another story.) \n\n    This probably has little relevance to space stations, since the 71 \ndegree orbits of the C1603 satellites are at 850 km, which is \nunacceptably far into the inner van Allen belt for manned platforms. But \nit's kind of interesting from the point of view of the physics of the \nsituation. \n\n    (Orbital elements for these satellites are available on request.) \n\n\nAllen Thomson                  SAIC                       McLean, VA","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nLou Gehrig, IRONMAN \n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Before more bandwidth gets wasted on this:\n\nI APOLOGIZE for my flame.\n\nFirst, because I distributed the message to so many newsgroups; I did\n       not check the crosspostings of the article I followed up on.\n\nSecond, for not making my argument clear enough. I reacted to the tone\n        of many of the anti-Kirlian posts, not to their content. Right\n        or wrong, I found the arguments set in arrogant and sneering words\n        (that includes \"jokes\"), which I still think is unwarranted.\n\nAnd, obviously, I should not have done the same.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"On Sunday 9 May 1993, Kenneth Engel writes (in substance):\n\n  We are told that the penalty for sin is an eternity in Hell.\n  We are told that Jesus paid the penalty, suffering in our stead.\n  But Jesus did not spend an eternity in Hell.\n\nThis objection presupposes the \"forensic substitution\" theory of the\nAtonement. Not everyone who believes in the Atonement understands it\nin those terms. For an expansion of this statement, send the\nmessages\n   GET GEN04 RUFF\n   GET GEN05 RUFF\n   GET GEN06 RUFF\n   GET GEN07 RUFF\n  to LISTSERV@ASUACAD.BITNET or to LISTSERV@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU\n\nNote that the character after the \"GEN\" is a zero. If you want to\nread my opun from the beginning, start with GEN01.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"I've heard *unconfirmed* rumours that there is a new Integra being released\nfor '94.\n\nDoes anybody have any info on this?\n\nThe local sales people know as much as I can throw them.\n\n--Parms.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nMinnesota Lumberjacks (thought of Bunyons - as in Paul, not sore feet or Babes\n\t\t\tas in Big Blue Ox)\nSeattle Rainiers (I think this was considered by the new ownership -- harkening\n                  back to AAA glory days -- and placating at least one local\n                  brewer :-)","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\n  I was referring to their propensity to dent during a spill. Prespill\nthey are of course a work of art.\n\n__\n   Jorg Klinger            |       GSXR1100        | If you only new who\n   Arch. & Eng. Services   |\"Lost Horizons\"  CR500 | I think I am. \n   UManitoba, Man. Ca.     |\"The Embalmer\"   IT175 |           - anonymous","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\nTsiel,\n\nI would contend that there was shelling from both sides of the border,\nstarting from the early 70's.  Certainly the PLO did shell Northern\nIsrael from the Arqoub region, but Israel did much more shelling\ndestroying several South Lebanese villages.  At the very least\nwe can say that both sides exchanged shelling, with occasional\naerial raids by Israel on Lebanese villages.\nIn any case Steve's characterization that the 1982 invasion was only in \nresponse to years of shelling from Lebanon is false.  Israel had\nmany reasons for invading but mainly it did so to install a government\nin Lebanon favorable to Israel, and it nearly achieved this aim\nwith the election of Basheer El Gemayel, and his brother, Amin\nEl Gemayel, but the internal situation in Lebanon was too hard\nto control and predict so Israel had to withdraw, and Amin El Gemayel\nhad to abrogate the 17 th of May Agreement.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nSo, you'd sell your bike, and let her\nride around while you have to stay home with\nthe kids?\n\nGeez, that's a tough choice.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThis image is copyrighted. Early in another news group it was being\nused as a texture map in a planet orbiting simulation. That program\nwas being freely distributed but the texture map picture for the \nearth had to be pulled because of copyright infringement issues. \n\nmp....\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"*** On 04-19-93  04:09, John Bongiovanni had the unmitigated gall to say this:\n\n >>Suddenly, the date no longer rolls over.  The time is (reasonably) accurate\n >>allways, but we have to change the date by hand every morning.  This involves\n >>exiting the menu system to get to DOS.\n \n JB> Did I once hear that in order for the date to advance, something, like\n JB> a  clock, *has* to make a Get Date system call? Apparently, the clock\n JB> hardware interrupt and BIOS don't do this (date advance)\n JB> automatically. The Get Date call notices that a \"midnight reset\" flag\n JB> has been set, and then then advances the date.\n\nWhen a program uses a DOS call to get the system, it resets the flag that\ntells the BIOS that it has passed midnight.  It then uses this flag to\nincrement the date.  If the menu does a call to the system to get the time\nbefore midnight, before the BIOS sees the midnight flag, then BIOS will not\nknow that the day passed and the date will not get updated.\n\nI might have some DOS's and BIOS's mixed up (darned cold messed up my\nbrains) but this has been a well documented problem for years.  I don't know\nof a workaround.  Hope this helps!\n\n... Two most common elements in the universe: Hydrogen & Stupidity.\n--- Blue Wave\/QWK v2.10\n                       ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nIn the past few years I have owned 3 Mustang GTs and now own a 91 T-Bird SC. \nThey all have had this problem. There was a recall on the T-bird for the brake \nproblem. The Ford dealer replaced the rotors and pads but the rotors warp \nafter about 10K miles. Between this problem and the fit and finish problems on \nthe T-Bird I'll never buy a Ford again.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"FOR SALE:\n\nTrident 1 Meg Video Card\n\nUp to 1024x768 in 256 colors","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I've seen people in their forties and fifties become disoriented and\ndemented during hospital stays. In the examples I've seen, drugs were\ndefinitely involved. \n\nMy own father turned into a vegetable for a short time while in the\nhospital. He was fifty-three at the time, and he was on 21 separate\nmedications. The family protested, but the doctors were adamant, telling\nus that none of the drugs interact. They even took the attitude that, if\nhe was disoriented, they should put him on something else as well! With\nthe help of an MD friend of the family, we had all his medication\ndiscontinued. He had a seizure that night, and was put back on one drug.\nTwo days later, he was his old self again. I guess there aren't many\nmedical texts that address the subject of 21-way interactions.\n\nI don't mean this as a cheap shot at the medical profession. It is an\naspect of hospitals that is very frightening to me. Docs seem to believe\nthat, because they have close control of you, it's quite all right to\ntake your bodily equilibria into their own hands. That control reduces\nthe chance that the patient will make a mistake, but health care\nproviders can make mistakes too, and mistakes can be deadly under those\ncircumstances. \n\nI grant you that sometimes there's no choice. Nevertheless, I suggest\nyou procure a list of the drugs your grandmother is getting, and discuss\nit with an independent doc. Her problems may not be the effect of HALDOL\nat all. HALDOL may have been used validly, or it may have been\nprescribed because OTHER medication confused her, and because the\nhospital normally prescribes HALDOL for the confused elderly.\n\nJust my opinion,","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Player       Team   GP  G   A  Pts +\/- PIM\n\n    M.Lemieux    PIT     3   4   2   6   2   0\n    Francis      PIT     3   1   5   6   5   4\n    Oates        BOS     3   0   6   6   1   2\n    Yzerman      DET     2   3   2   5   3   0\n    Coffey       DET     2   0   5   5   1   0\n    D.Hunter     WAS     3   5   0   5  -4  10\n    Mogilny      BUF     3   4   1   5   3   4\n    Thomas       NYI     3   2   3   5   6   0\n    Lapointe     QUE     3   1   4   5   2   2\n    Johansson    WAS     3   0   5   5  -1   4\n    Carson       LA      2   4   0   4   0   2\n    Brown        STL     2   1   3   4   1   2\n    Fleury       CAL     2   1   3   4   0  19\n    G.Courtnall  VAN     2   1   3   4   3   2\n    Flatley      NYI     2   0   4   4   3   2\n    MacInnis     CAL     2   0   4   4  -1   4\n    Ferraro      NYI     3   3   1   4   2   2\n    McEachern    PIT     3   3   1   4   4   8\n    Neely        BOS     3   3   1   4   1   4\n    Turgeon      NYI     3   3   1   4   5   0\n    Bellows      MON     3   2   2   4   0   0\n    Jagr         PIT     3   2   2   4   3   0\n    Khmylev      BUF     3   2   2   4   3   0\n    Khristich    WAS     3   2   2   4   0   2\n    Hawerchuk    BUF     3   1   3   4   0   2\n    Hogue        NYI     3   1   3   4   3   2\n    Juneau       BOS     3   1   3   4   0   6\n    K.Stevens    PIT     3   1   3   4   1   6\n    L.Murphy     PIT     3   1   3   4   2   0\n    LaFontaine   BUF     3   1   3   4   2   0\n    Ramsey       PIT     3   0   4   4   3   4\n    Smehlik      BUF     3   0   4   4   4   2\n    Noonan       CHI     2   3   0   3   0   0\n    Gilmour      TOR     2   2   1   3  -1  12\n    Hull         STL     2   2   1   3   0   0\n    Otto         CAL     2   2   1   3   2   2\n    Reichel      CAL     2   2   1   3   0   0\n    Bure         VAN     2   1   2   3   2   0\n    Drake        DET     2   1   2   3   2   0\n    Linden       VAN     2   1   2   3   4   2\n    Nieuwendyk   CAL     2   1   2   3  -1   2\n    Roberts      CAL     2   0   3   3  -2   4\n    Young        QUE     3   3   0   3   3   0\n    B.Sweeney    BUF     3   2   1   3   2   4\n    S.Stevens    NJ      3   2   1   3  -2   4\n    Tocchet      PIT     3   2   1   3   0   2\n    Carpenter    WAS     3   1   2   3   0   6\n    J.Mullen     PIT     3   1   2   3   2   2\n    Ronning      VAN     2   2   0   2   4   0\n    Suter        CAL     2   2   0   2   0   4\n    Yawney       CAL     2   2   0   2   3   4\n    Adams        VAN     2   1   1   2   2   0\n    Chiasson     DET     2   1   1   2  -1   4\n    Craven       VAN     2   1   1   2   2   2\n    Cullen       TOR     2   1   1   2  -1   0\n    Dahlquist    CAL     2   1   1   2   2   4\n    King         WIN     2   1   1   2   2   2\n    Racine       DET     2   1   1   2   6  14\n    Rychel       LA      2   1   1   2   1  19\n    Shanahan     STL     2   1   1   2   0   4\n    Sheppard     DET     2   1   1   2   2   0\n    Sydor        LA      2   1   1   2   0   4\n    Barnes       WIN     2   0   2   2   1   2\n    Emerson      STL     2   0   2   2   0   0\n    Gill         TOR     2   0   2   2  -2   0\n    Granato      LA      2   0   2   2   1   4\n    Gretzky      LA      2   0   2   2  -3   0\n    Housley      WIN     2   0   2   2  -2   0\n    Janney       STL     2   0   2   2   0   0\n    King         NYI     2   0   2   2   4   6\n    Kozlov       DET     2   0   2   2   1   2\n    Sandstrom    LA      2   0   2   2  -4   4\n    Shuchuk      LA      2   0   2   2  -1   2\n    Vaske        NYI     2   0   2   2   1   0\n    Damphousse   MON     3   1   1   2   0   0\n    Elynuik      WAS     3   1   1   2  -1   0\n    Guerin       NJ      3   1   1   2   0   4\n    Hannan       BUF     3   1   1   2   2   8\n    Holik        NJ      3   1   1   2   1   4\n    Muller       MON     3   1   1   2   0   0\n    Sakic        QUE     3   1   1   2   0   0\n    Semak        NJ      3   1   1   2  -2   0\n    Sundin       QUE     3   1   1   2   1   2\n    Taglianetti  PIT     3   1   1   2   3   6\n    Tipett       PIT     3   1   1   2  -1   6\n    Barasso      PIT     3   0   2   2   0   2\n    Bondra       WAS     3   0   2   2   1   0\n    Carney       BUF     3   0   2   2   3   4\n    Cavallini    WAS     3   0   2   2   0   2\n    Desjardins   MON     3   0   2   2   0   0\n    Duchesne     QUE     3   0   2   2   1   2\n    Niedermayer  NJ      3   0   2   2  -1   2\n    Ricci        QUE     3   0   2   2   3   2\n    Ridley       WAS     3   0   2   2  -1   0\n    U.Samuelsson PIT     3   0   2   2   4   6\n    Blake        LA      1   0   1   1   2   0\n    Borschevsky  TOR     1   0   1   1   0   0\n    Zelepukin    NJ      1   0   1   1  -2   0\n    B.Mullen     NYI     2   1   0   1  -2   0\n    Burr         DET     2   1   0   1  -1   2\n    Domi         WIN     2   1   0   1   2   4\n    Fedorov      DET     2   1   0   1   2   2\n    Felsner      STL     2   1   0   1   1   0\n    Howe         DET     2   1   0   1   4   2\n    Huddy        LA      2   1   0   1   1   0\n    Kurri        LA      2   1   0   1  -2   2\n    Lefebvre     TOR     2   1   0   1   0  12\n    Lidstrom     DET     2   1   0   1  -1   0\n    Lowry        STL     2   1   0   1   1   2\n    McSorley     LA      2   1   0   1  -3  12\n    Millen       LA      2   1   0   1   2   4\n    Mironov      TOR     2   1   0   1  -1   2\n    Numminen     WIN     2   1   0   1  -2   0\n    Paslawski    CAL     2   1   0   1  -1   0\n    Steen        WIN     2   1   0   1  -4   0\n    Ysebaert     DET     2   1   0   1   0   0\n    Anderson     TOR     2   0   1   1  -2   2\n    Berube       CAL     2   0   1   1   1  15\n    Chelios      CHI     2   0   1   1  -1   2\n    Ciccarelli   DET     2   0   1   1   1  14\n    Clark        TOR     2   0   1   1   0   6\n    Dahl         CAL     2   0   1   1   2   6\n    Dipietro     MON     2   0   1   1   0   0\n    Donnelly     LA      2   0   1   1   1   2\n    Ellett       TOR     2   0   1   1  -3   0\n    Gallant      DET     2   0   1   1   1   4\n    K.Brown      CHI     2   0   1   1   1   0\n    Kennedy      DET     2   0   1   1   1   0\n    Larmer       CHI     2   0   1   1   0   0\n    Matteau      CHI     2   0   1   1  -1   2\n    McLean       VAN     2   0   1   1   0   0\n    McRae        STL     2   0   1   1   1   2\n    Murzyn       VAN     2   0   1   1   2   0\n    Musil        CAL     2   0   1   1   0   5\n    Pearson      TOR     2   0   1   1  -1  21\n    Primeau      DET     2   0   1   1   1  20\n    Probert      DET     2   0   1   1   0   6\n    Ranheim      CAL     2   0   1   1   2   0\n    Robitaille   LA      2   0   1   1  -4   2\n    Roenick      CHI     2   0   1   1  -1   0\n    Selanne      WIN     2   0   1   1  -2   0\n    Shannon      WIN     2   0   1   1   4   0\n    Skrudland    CAL     2   0   1   1   2  10\n    Sutter       CHI     2   0   1   1  -1   0\n    Taylor       LA      2   0   1   1   1   0\n    Zhitnik      LA      2   0   1   1  -2   2\n    Barr         NJ      3   1   0   1   0   6\n    Bourque      BOS     3   1   0   1  -2   2\n    Burridge     WAS     3   1   0   1  -2   0\n    Dionne       MON     3   1   0   1   0   0\n    Heinze       BOS     3   1   0   1   0   0\n    Leschyshyn   QUE     3   1   0   1   1   4\n    Presley      BUF     3   1   0   1   0   0\n    Rucinsky     QUE     3   1   0   1   1   2\n    Smolinski    BOS     3   1   0   1  -1   2\n    Wood         BUF     3   1   0   1  -1   4\n    Brunet       MON     3   0   1   1   0   0\n    Daniels      PIT     3   0   1   1   1   0\n    Donato       BOS     3   0   1   1  -5   0\n    Driver       NJ      3   0   1   1  -3   4\n    Gusarov      QUE     3   0   1   1   2   0\n    Houlder      BUF     3   0   1   1   0   0\n    K.Samuelsson PIT     3   0   1   1   2   0\n    Kamensky     QUE     3   0   1   1   1   4\n    Krygier      WAS     3   0   1   1   0   4\n    Loney        PIT     3   0   1   1   2   0\n    May          WAS     3   0   1   1   1   2\n    Miller       WAS     3   0   1   1  -3   0\n    Odelein      MON     3   0   1   1   0   0\n    Pivonka      WAS     3   0   1   1  -1   0\n    Shaw         BOS     3   0   1   1  -2   4\n    Straka       PIT     3   0   1   1   0   0\n    Belanger     MON     1   0   0   0   0   0\n    Chorske      NJ      1   0   0   0   0   0\n    Druce        WIN     1   0   0   0   0   0\n    Eagles       WIN     1   0   0   0   0   0\n    Errey        BUF     1   0   0   0   0   4\n    Ewen         MON     1   0   0   0   0   0\n    Foligno      TOR     1   0   0   0   0  16\n    Goulet       CHI     1   0   0   0   0   0\n    Grimson      CHI     1   0   0   0   0   2\n    Hughes       BOS     1   0   0   0   0   2\n    Kovalenko    QUE     1   0   0   0   0   2\n    Leeman       MON     1   0   0   0   0   0\n    McLlwain     TOR     1   0   0   0  -2   0\n    Osbourne     TOR     1   0   0   0  -1   2\n    Richer       NJ      1   0   0   0  -4   0\n    Roberge      MON     1   0   0   0   0   0\n    Schneider    MON     1   0   0   0   0   0\n    Watters      LA      1   0   0   0   1   4\n    Weimer       BOS     1   0   0   0  -1   4\n    Andreychuk   TOR     2   0   0   0  -2   2\n    Ashton       CAL     2   0   0   0  -1   2\n    Babych       VAN     2   0   0   0   2   2\n    Baron        STL     2   0   0   0   0   6\n    Bassen       STL     2   0   0   0   0   4\n    Baumgartner  TOR     2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Bautin       WIN     2   0   0   0  -2   2\n    Belfour      CHI     2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Berg         TOR     2   0   0   0  -1   4\n    Billington   NJ      2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Blue         BOS     2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Borsato      WIN     2   0   0   0  -2   0\n    Bozon        STL     2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Butcher      STL     2   0   0   0   2   0\n    Cheveldae    DET     2   0   0   0   0   2\n    Conacher     LA      2   0   0   0   2   0\n    Corkum       BUF     2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Diduck       VAN     2   0   0   0   2   2\n    Dirk         VAN     2   0   0   0   0   2\n    Erickson     WIN     2   0   0   0  -1   0\n    Essensa      WIN     2   0   0   0   0   2\n    Gilbert      CHI     2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Graham       CHI     2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Hardy        LA      2   0   0   0  -1  10\n    Hedican      STL     2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Hrudey       LA      2   0   0   0   0   0\n    J.Lemieux    CHI     2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Johansson    CAL     2   0   0   0  -1   0\n    Joseph       STL     2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Kasatonov    NJ      2   0   0   0  -2   0\n    Kennedy      WIN     2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Konstantinov DET     2   0   0   0   1   4\n    Krushelnyski TOR     2   0   0   0  -2   0\n    Lidster      VAN     2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Lumme        VAN     2   0   0   0   2   4\n    Macoun       TOR     2   0   0   0  -1   6\n    Marchment    CHI     2   0   0   0   1   6\n    Miller       STL     2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Momesso      VAN     2   0   0   0  -1   2\n    Moog         BOS     2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Muni         CHI     2   0   0   0  -1   0\n    Murphy       CHI     2   0   0   0  -1   4\n    Murray       CHI     2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Nedved       VAN     2   0   0   0  -2   2\n    Olausson     WIN     2   0   0   0  -1   2\n    Pearson      QUE     2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Potvin       TOR     2   0   0   0   0   6\n    Quintal      STL     2   0   0   0  -1   0\n    Ramage       MON     2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Ri.Sutter    STL     2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Rouse        TOR     2   0   0   0  -2   0\n    Russell      CHI     2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Ruuttu       CHI     2   0   0   0   1   0\n    S.Richer     BOS     2   0   0   0  -1   0\n    S.Smith      CHI     2   0   0   0  -2   4\n    Sandlak      VAN     2   0   0   0  -2   0\n    Semenov      VAN     2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Stern        CAL     2   0   0   0  -1  26\n    T.Hunter     VAN     2   0   0   0   0   2\n    T.Sweeney    BOS     2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Terreri      NJ      2   0   0   0   0   0\n    Tkachuk      WIN     2   0   0   0  -3  10\n    Ulanov       WIN     2   0   0   0  -1   4\n    Valk         VAN     2   0   0   0   0   2\n    Vernon       CAL     2   0   0   0   0   2\n    Wilson       STL     2   0   0   0   0   4\n    Zezel        TOR     2   0   0   0  -2   2\n    Zhamnov      WIN     2   0   0   0  -1   0\n    Zombo        STL     2   0   0   0  -1   4\n    Albelin      NJ      3   0   0   0  -1   0\n    Anderson     WAS     3   0   0   0  -1   0\n    Audette      BUF     3   0   0   0  -1   4\n    Bodger       BUF     3   0   0   0   3   0\n    Brisebois    MON     3   0   0   0   0   0\n    C.Lemieux    NJ      3   0   0   0  -4  17\n    Carbonneau   MON     3   0   0   0   0   0\n    Cavallini    QUE     3   0   0   0   0   0\n    Cote         WAS     3   0   0   0  -3   0\n    D.Sweeney    BOS     3   0   0   0  -2   4\n    Daigneault   MON     3   0   0   0   0   0\n    Dalgarno     NYI     3   0   0   0  -3   0\n    Daneyko      NJ      3   0   0   0  -1   2\n    Douris       BOS     3   0   0   0  -3   0\n    Fetisov      NJ      3   0   0   0  -5   0\n    Finn         QUE     3   0   0   0  -1   0\n    Fitzgerald   NYI     3   0   0   0   0   0\n    Foote        QUE     3   0   0   0   1   0\n    Fuhr         BUF     3   0   0   0   0   2\n    G.Roberts    BOS     3   0   0   0  -1   4\n    Haller       MON     3   0   0   0   0   0\n    Hatcher      WAS     3   0   0   0  -1   2\n    Healy        NYI     3   0   0   0   0   0\n    Hextall      QUE     3   0   0   0   0   0\n    Hough        QUE     3   0   0   0   0   0\n    Iafrate      WAS     3   0   0   0  -2   0\n    Jennings     PIT     3   0   0   0   0   4\n    Jones        WAS     3   0   0   0  -2   5\n    Kasparaitis  NYI     3   0   0   0   0   4\n    Keane        MON     3   0   0   0   0   0\n    Kimble       BOS     3   0   0   0   0   0\n    Krupp        NYI     3   0   0   0   2   2\n    Kvartalnov   BOS     3   0   0   0   0   2\n    LeClair      MON     3   0   0   0   0   0\n    Leach        BOS     3   0   0   0   0   0\n    Lebeau       MON     3   0   0   0   0   0\n    Ledyard      BUF     3   0   0   0  -3   4\n    Loiselle     NYI     3   0   0   0  -1   2\n    MacLean      NJ      3   0   0   0  -4   4\n    Malakov      NYI     3   0   0   0   1   2\n    May          BUF     3   0   0   0   0   4\n    McKay        NJ      3   0   0   0   0  16\n    Nicholls     NJ      3   0   0   0  -4   4\n    Nolan        QUE     3   0   0   0   1   2\n    Norton       NYI     3   0   0   0   3   0\n    Patterson    BUF     3   0   0   0  -1   2\n    Pilon        NYI     3   0   0   0   1  22\n    Poulin       BOS     3   0   0   0  -4   0\n    Roy          MON     3   0   0   0   0   0\n    Savard       MON     3   0   0   0   0   0\n    Simon        QUE     3   0   0   0  -1   2\n    Stapleton    PIT     3   0   0   0   1   0\n    Stastny      NJ      3   0   0   0  -1   2\n    Sutton       BUF     3   0   0   0   2   0\n    T.Green      NYI     3   0   0   0  -3   0\n    Tabaracci    WAS     3   0   0   0   0   4\n    Vukota       NYI     3   0   0   0  -1   2\n    Wesley       BOS     3   0   0   0   1   0\n    Wolanin      QUE     3   0   0   0   1   4\n-- ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Bristol Technology announces the availability of \nits HyperHelp(tm) and Xprinter(tm) demo for downloading.\n\nThis demo showcases the two products in the form of a \ndiagram editor called DE.\n\nDownload the demo and see some of these exciting features for yourself:\n\n\t o Complete on-line context sensitive help system.\n\n\t o Printing support for PCL5 and PostScript.\n\n\t o Rotated Text support!\n\n\t o Source code for the demo is provided.\n\nThe demo is available via anonymous ftp from ftp.uu.net (137.39.1.9).\n\nThere are two versions of the demo located in the vendor\/Bristol directory:\nSun     - sun4.demo.tar.Z (SunOS 4.x)\nHP      - hp700.tar.Z     (HP-UX 8 & 9)\n\nIf you have any questions about the demo, send an\ne-mail to: support@bristol.com.\n\nIf you want another version of the demo (rs6000,etc...) \nplease send an e-mail to: info@bristol.com.\n\nRemember to use binary mode!\n\n\nWhat are HyperHelp and Xprinter?  Read on......\n---------------------------------------------------------\nBristol Technology is proud to announce version 3.0 of\nits popular HyperHelp product and version 2.0 of Xprinter.\n\n\t\t\t    HyperHelp 3.0\n\t\t\t    -------------\nHyperHelp is the de-facto standard for on-line context\nsensitive help in the Unix marketplace.  Through a one\nline function call, application developers can access the\nfull features of HyperHelp and cut down drastically on\ntheir development time.  HyperHelp can use the same RTF,\nproject, and bitmap files as the MS Windows Help facility.\nThis allows a documentation department to maintain a single\nset of help documents portable between MS Windows, Motif and\nOpen Look.  HyperHelp can also be authored in FrameMaker. \nAnd with HyperHelp 3.0 Bristol introduces its SGML compiler!\n\nNew features in HyperHelp 3.0 include secondary windows,a character\nbased viewer, segmented bitmaps, SGML support, and an improved History\nwindow.\n\n\t\t\t     Xprinter 2.0\n\t\t\t     ------------\nXprinter 2.0 allows developers to add sophisticated\nprinter support to their existing\/new X based applications\nvery easily.  Xprinter uses the Xlib API for both the\ndisplay and printer.  This lets you use the exact same code\nfor drawing and printing.  Take a look at the source code for\nour demo and see Xprinter in action.\n\nIf you are interested in adding PostScript and PCL5 support\nto your application, Xprinter is the tool for you!  Earlier\nthis year Bristola dn USL signed an agreement that\nresulted in Xprinter becoming the standard printing technology\nfor UNIX SVR4.2.\n\n\nFeel free to run the demo and let us know what you think about\nHyperHelp and Xprinter. \n\nIf you have any questions or comments, send them to us at:\ninfo@bristol.com or call us at (203) 438-6969.\n\n\t\t\t\tHappy demoing,\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"How can I capture ButtonPress\/ButtonRelease events in multiple clients?\nI want to know if the user is still at the display before locking the screen.\nI can get  KeyPress\/KeyRelease and Pointer motion events, but if the user\nis pressing the mouse button in the same location (the mouse doesn't move)\nI can't capture the events.  \n\nThe O'Reilly Xlib Programming Manual (vol. 1) says on page 252;\n   \"Only one client can select button events on any one window at one time, \n    due to the grab that automatically takes place.\"  \n\nAny help would be appreciated.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"do not, and i repeat, do not, cross post the following subjects to    \nsoc.culture.iranian:\n\nRe: Jews Supports Serbs\nRe: Arab Leaders and Bosnia\nRe: HizbAllah in Bosnia\nRe: The Stage is Being Set\n\nthat's all we need here; more bigotry and hate! believe me,\nwe have already reached our quota for the year. try again\nnext year.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nYup, it's not all that difficult to do.\n\n\nThe Panasonic cartridges aren't bad, but they aren't spectacular.\n\n\nDon't mount it on the side.  Call up Crown, the company that has the\npatent on the PZM, and ask them for information on construction and\nuse of the things.  You may have to determine the correct spacing\nemperically with a noise source and a spectrum analyzer because the\ndesign of the Panasonic cartridges uses a tuned cavity in front of\nthe electret element to increase the high frequency response, and you\nare going to be altering the resistance through the cavity entrance.\n\nCrown has a nice book on the subject, though it's unfortunately rather\nshort on mathematics.  There's a JAES article from many years back, too.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"There is a correction to the note I posted for today's update:\n\nThis is how it read:\n        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\nOf course, last Saturday was April 17th. People who requested those scores\nshould receive them by Friday the 23rd. Thanks.\n\nJoe Hernandez\n-- \n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nJoseph Hernandez          |    RAMS  | |    \/.\\  ******* _|_|_  \/ |   LAKERS\njtchern@ocf.Berkeley.EDU  |   KINGS  | |__ |   | DODGERS _|_|_  | |   RAIDERS\njtcent@soda.Berkeley.EDU  |  ANGELS  |____||_|_| *******  | |  |___|  CLIPPERS","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Two meg. sim that came from a PB100 for sale.  I am asking $60 (postage\nincluded).  If you are interested please e-mail me via internet.  If you do\nnot\nhave internet availability you may contact me at 301\/468-0241. ","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nI bought mine at the MOW storefront.\nIts not plastic, its woven material.\n\nbut I think you miss the point.\nits not about the five bucks in your pocket, its about supporting the\nmarch and helping to pay for all the printed materail and scehdulkes and\norganisation and...\n\nall leading up to the literal *birth* of Queer visibility in this country.\n\nup to this point all our news coverage has been driven by events thatb\nhappen to us. \nthis event is happening by our direct action.\nof course the last MOW was the same thing but they ignored us.\nI guess that was just labor pains.\nperhaps they will ignore us again, in which case we will come in\neven largeer numbers next time.\n\nLst night in DC there were so many queers out and about you could hardly get\nin any place.\nI suspect thatb over the next two days that will become exponentially\nlarger.\n\nTo my mind this is a physical bsuting down of the collective closet of\nqueer invisibility.\n\nthe five bucks is insignificant.\n\nLUX .\/. owen\n\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\nI've tried to get rid off XDM's ugly Login window by giving it a 'cool'\nbackgroundPixmap ressource. As Login is derived from Core, this should be\npossible. Anyway, setting xlogin*backgroundPixmap:\/a\/b\/c.xpm did not\nproduce any message of the form 'cannot convert String to Pixmap' and\nexplicitely registering such converter lead to nothing, too.\n\nAny way to do it ?\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Hi,\n\tI'm an avid dieter and the new miracle drug seems to involve thermo-\ngenics. The drug is claimed to stimulate the brown fat to burn food \ncreating eat as opposed to the fat being stored. There are all sorts of\nwarnings about fevers, elevated blood pressure and heart rate, ect..\n\tThe silver lining is that apparently some weight loss does not \nrequire a change in diet. Is this possible? Are the pills dangerous or just\nhoaxes?","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
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{"text":"So why not condemn the Mufti for his Nazi leanings, and condemn all his\nsupporters, while also condemning the similarly genocidal killing of\ninnocents, Muslim or not, in Bosnoia-Herzegovina? Hatred and bigotry\nremain just that, no matter who practices them.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Elias Davidsson writes...\n\nED> dear pete,\nED> \nED> for one who is so zionist as you, you should at least know your\nED> hebrew, young man.\nED> \nED> The last sentence in your posting should read:\nED> \nED> Medina achat leshnai amim (not Echad medionnot leshtai amim).\nED> \nED> I don't want to address your comments. They speak for themselves.\nED> \nED> best regards from a Palestinian of Jewish origin who talks, reads and writes\nED> Hebrew and does not hate Jews nor anybody else. \nED> \nED> Elias\n \n    The above claim that you do not hate anybody may not be quite\n    true.  The falsity of this statement is easily visible in the\n    intellectual corruption that dominates everything you post in\n    this group.  Your complete lack of objectivity toward Israel, \n    and Jewish identity in general, reveal biases that indicate a\n    great steaming heap of hatred!\n    \n    You certainly have shown a genuine hatred for honesty and for\n    objectivity. You repeatedly post items or quotes removed from \n    their original context so that they can be used to further an \n    agenda of rabid opposition to the very existence of Israel.\n\n    You have used this dishonest technique to paint a false image \n    of several Israeli leaders.  I can't say if you actually HATE\n    these leaders, but the lies and misrepresentations of them do\n    suggest that you have a visceral prejudice against them.\n    \n    So, while you claim that you do not hate anybody, there is an\n    ample body of evidence to suggest that this claim of yours is \n    false.  It is obvious that you hate Israel, and it is evident\n    that you hate the Jewish people.\n\n    And, if you are Jewish, you are a self-hating Jew.  There can\n    be no doubt of this.  Although you will call upon your Jewish\n    background in an effort to claim the high moral ground, there\n    is no doubt that you would like to see the Jewish people fade\n    away completely, as a people.  Your advocacy of intermarriage\n    for the purpose of dissolving the Jewish people is proof that \n    you hate the Jewish people.\n\n    And by your effort to superimpose the meaninglessness of your\n    own Jewishness on all Jews, you've clearly demonstrated to me \n    that you hate yourself.\n                      \n                      *       *       *       *\n\n    \"Who is a Jew?  A person whose integrity decays when unmoved \n    by the knowledge of wrong done to other people.\" ","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I am planning to convert my Motif 1.2 app from pixel to font units\nwhich would all be set in the app's resource file instead of hard coded\nin the program.\n\nHowever, the word here is from people who tried this already that for\nsome unknown reason XmForm offsets placed in the resource file are still\ninterpreted in pixel units forcing people to code those offset font units into the program.\n\nCan somebody confirm this?","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Astronomy & Space magazine's UK telephone newsline carries the times to\nsee the Russian Space Station Mir which will be visible every EVENING (some\ntime between 9 o'clock and midnight) from April 27 to May 7. It's about as\nbright as Jupiter at its best. There are two cosmonuats on board.\n\nFor the time to watch, tel. 0891-88-19-50 (48p\/min peak 36p\/min all other\ntimes, but prediction is at start of the weekly message so it only costs a\nfew pence).\n\nE-mail reports of sightings would be appreciated: give lat\/long and UT (a\nfew seconds accuracy if possible) when it passes ABOVE or BELOW any bright\nstar (say brighter than mag. 3), planet or Moon.\n\nWith Moon in evening sky also, note that from somewhere in U.K. Mir will\npass in front of the Moon each night! Please alert local clubs to the\ntelephone newsline, and general public as Mir can cause quite a stir!\n\n-Tony Ryan, \"Astronomy & Space\", new International magazine, available from:\n              Astronomy Ireland, P.O.Box 2888, Dublin 1, Ireland.\n6 issues (one year sub.): UK 10.00 pounds, US$20 surface (add US$8 airmail).\nACCESS\/VISA\/MASTERCARD accepted (give number, expiration date, name&address).\n\n  (WORLD'S LARGEST ASTRO. SOC. per capita - unless you know better? 0.033%)\nTel: 0891-88-1950 (UK\/N.Ireland) 1550-111-442 (Eire). Cost up to 48p per min","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I downloaded the file xv221exe.zip from the site someone posted here.\nIt contained the files:\n  CJPEG.EXE\n  DJPEG.EXE\n  XV.EXE\n\nWhen I tried to run it, it just said \n\"Couldn't run go32.exe\"\nand halts.\n\nWhat's the matter with this? \nAre there some files missing in the .zip?\nWhat is go32.exe?\n\nany help appreciated.\n\nbye,\n\nWolfram\n\n--","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Im trying to find a site that has UPDATED(daily) stats more the\n\tNational league. I'll take both leagues but I'm really interested in the\n\tNational league.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"From article <1r1i7mINN4n4@cronkite.cisco.com>, by kmac@cisco.com (Karl Elvis MacRae):\n\nI agree that the Toyota is the best looking I just didn't fit plus it is the\nhighest cost of all the ones you mentioned. I have good friends who have all\nthree of the trucks you talked about, the ones with kids all went to the\nford because of the room required to carry a couple of kids and all the junk\nyou need. The single ones went for the Toyota and the Nissan. Every one has\nbeen happy with what they bought. Although no one is into serious four wheel\noff road driving.\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I recently read in a book that the TIFF version 6.0 specification was due\nto be released in the spring of 1992.  I am interested in finding out about\nthe new features of the TIFF spec (and if it is out).  Specifically, I need\nto know if TIFF 6.0 supports VQ decompression and\/or image\ntiling.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"First of all I'm still baffled what you possibly could have\nfound racist in my argument for freedom of speach. I did not\nmention names, nationalities, countries let alone races. \n\tYou are right in that Virginia.edu does not have a\nthought police like Israel.nysernet.org seems to. I didn't know\nthat you guys are getting a privelege by the Israelis by\ngetting \"the means to speak publicly\". Virginia.edu lets EVERY\nstudent regardless of their opinion to speak their mind. \n\tVirginia.edu is true to its founding father, Thomas\nJefferson the author of the bill of rights, in allowing freedom\nof speach. Sorry you guys in israel have a hard time with the\nconcept.\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n    ya know that kind of funny cause I've seen Kariya on Campus\nwith a Sharks hat on.......\n\n\n\n             Pat Ellis\n\n\nP.S.  GO BRUINS    GO UMAINE BLACK BEARS    42-1-2       NUMBER 1......\n\n                   HOCKEY EAST REGULARS SEASON CHAMPIONS.....\n                   HOCKEY EAST TOURNAMENT CHAMPIONS>......\n                   PAUL KARIYA, HOBEY BAKER AWARD WINNER.......\n         NCAA DIV. 1 HOCKEY TOURNAMENT CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":";    I am a serious motorcycle enthusiast without a motorcycle, and to\n;put it bluntly, it sucks.  I really would like some advice on what would\n;be a good starter bike for me.  I do know one thing however, I need to\n;make my first bike a good one, because buying a second any time soon is\n;out of the question.  I am specifically interested in racing bikes, (CBR\n;600 F2, GSX-R 750).  I know that this may sound kind of crazy\n;considering that I've never had a bike before, but I am responsible, a\n;fast learner, and in love.  \n\nResponsible and in love?  I believe that's a contradiction\nin terms.\n\nUnless you're really brave (read: \"reckless\") a 500cc sport\nbike will go way faster than you dare for at least your first\nyear of riding.  Getting more than that really is overkill,\nas you'll never even want to use it.  The following bikes\ncan be bought (and repaired!) cheaply, are easy for a novice\nto manage, and are plenty high performance:\n    Kawasaki EX-500\n    Honda VF-500 \"Interceptor\"\n    Suzuki GS-550E\n\nThe 0-100mph time of the EX-500 at full throttle is \"way\nsooner than you're ready for it\".  :-)  With something\nas small as a 250, you'd probably be wishing for more\npower pretty quickly (unless it's a TZR or RGV :).\n\nNow, I'm not saying that you're 100% certain to kill\nyourself immediately with a 600f2 or a GSXR-750.  Plenty\nof people have started riding on those bikes and done\njust fine.  What I am saying is that it's a waste of\nmoney, and a waste of perfectly good plastic when you\ndrop the thing learning how to balance while stopping.\nYou'll never get the throttle more than half open\nanyway, so why spend the extra 2000 bucks?\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Another one rescued from the bit bucket...\n\nOver the years the furor over this book has been discussed on a.a. and\nelsewhere on the net.  Generally, the discussion comes down to the\ncontention on the one hand that TSV contains such blood libel against\nIslam as to merit, if not death, than at least banning and probably\nsome sort of punishment; and on the other that Rushdie, particularly\nas a non-muslim in a Western country, had every right to write and\npublish whatever he chose, regardless of whether some muslims find it\noffensive, without fear of persecution or death.  \n\nI am naturally inclined to the latter position, but find myself in an\ninteresting position, because I think this is a fine book, only\nincidentally concerned with Islam, and moreover I'm damned if I can\nfind anything malevolently offensive in it.\n\nOver the years, when I have made this point, various primarily muslim\nposters have responded, saying that yes indeed they have read the book\nand had called it such things as \"filth and lies\", \"I would rank\nRushdie's book with Hitler's Mein Kempf or worse\", and so on.\nUnfortunately, these comments are usually generalities, and attempts\nto follow up by requesting explanations for what specifically is so\noffensive have met either with stony silence, more generalizations, or\ninaccurate or out-of-context references to the book [which lead me to\nbelieve that few of them have actually read it].  Corrections and\nattempts to discuss the text in context have been ignored.\n\nAnyway, since I seem to be the only one following this particular line\nof discussion, I wonder how many of the rest of the readership have\nread this book?  What are your thoughts on it?  \n-- \nJim Perry   perry@dsinc.com   Decision Support, Inc., Matthews NC\nThese are my opinions.  For a nominal fee, they can be yours.\n\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"A person with a Schatzki's ring (a membrane partially blocking the \nespphagus) has worsening dysphagia (difficulty swallowing) and the \ndoctor proposes dilation by balloow or bougie (using an inflatable\nballoon to rupture the ring or a rubber hose to push through it.  \n\nQuestion: is balloon dilation safe, common, and indicated?  It sounds\npretty invasive.\n\nYes, this is a common and safe procedure.  The majority of Schatzki's\nrings described by x-ray, however, wnd up being due to inflammation\ninstead of the congenital Schatzki's ring.  Occassionally a cancer\nmasquerades as a ring.  You should have the endoscopy to see if it\nis due to the heartburn, and if so, you will need treatment for the\nheartburn ong term.  The balloon dilation is an alternative to cutting\nopen your chest and cutting out a section of the esophagus, so dilation\nis not at all invasive, considering the alternative.  \n\n\n3 to 4 years, and once was symptomatic from them, with some\nlightheadedness.\nHe is young, (30-ish), thin and in good\n\nI' not an expert on heart problems, but PVC's are common and have been\novertreated in the past.  My personal experience, and I have the same \nhistory an build you do (related to the heart, that is), is that my PVC's\ncome and go, with some months causing anxiety.  Taking on more fluids\nseems to help, and they seem worse in the summer.  Remember that a slow \nheart rate will allow more PVC's to be apparent, so perhaps it is an \nindication of a healthy cardiac system (but ask an expert about that\nlast point, especially)\n\nGood luck, hope we don't die of arrhythmias.  (God, what a happy thought)","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Hello, Brycen ?!\nI'm a Norwegian journalist student - and also a Christian. Thanks for your \ntestimony! But I want to ask you one question: What do you think of Heavy \nMetal music after you became a Christian? You know there are Christian bands \nlike Barren Cross, Whitecross, Bloodgood and Stryper, that play that kind of \nmusic. I like some of it, I feel like it sometimes. Of course I listen to \nthe lyrics too. I don't listen to any Christian band, but it's better than \nlistening to secular music anyway. \nHope you're still going strong - with Christ!!","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\tAbsolutely. Early XS1100's were VERY good at this. \n\n\t\n\n\tDon't try it on your Virago unless you already are purty good at\nit or like the smell of exploded clutch.\n\n\n\n-- \nGo fast. Take chances.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"I'm working at a workstation which is usually attached to a Novell\nnetwork (using shell version 3.22, I think). The workstation, a 386, was set\nup to run Windows 3.0 with the network about a year ago. Needless to say,\nI'd like to upgrade it to Windows 3.1, and have it work with the network.\n\n\tBasically, the Windows files'd be on the local hard drive, but\nseveral DOS applications, like Word Perfect, will be on the network. I'd\nmainly want Windows to access the network drives, the network printers, and\nperhaps handle some network functions as well. If I could multitask the DOS\napps whose executables are on the network, that'd be great, but I could live\nwithout it.\n\n\tEventually, I'd like to get a few other 486s in the office working\nwith the network and Windows 3.1 as well. (However, most of the terminals\nare 286s, which leaves the network pretty much DOS-bound, and I guess that\nleaves out Windows for Workgroups.) And in the future, maybe there'd be\nNorton desktop, but that's gettingahead of myself.\n\n\tAs you can guess, I've never done anything like this before. I've\nread through the networks material that came with Windows, but still, I'd\nlike to know if anyone out there has any experience in such an area.\n\n\tPlease reply by Email. I don't scan these newsgroups often.\n\n\tThanks for any replies.\n\n\nBrian \"Rev. P-K\" Siano                                  revpk@cellar.org","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nA friend of mine (who's probably reading this right now) just bought a new\nYamaha Virago 750.  After spending 1-2 hours very late one chilly evening\nwatching him struggle with the bolts (had to remove the right peg, loosen\nthe brake pedal, &c. &c.) I've pretty much decided never to get this\nparticular model unless he or someone else wants to change the oil\/filter\nfor me.  Compared to the 5-minute change he was used to for his Honda, this\nis just a design flaw\/oversight in my eyes.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Please remove me from this mailing list - we finally\ngot our news feed!\n\n\tRon L.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nWell, so are we, and we see it completely different than you. Guess it's a\nmatter of perspective.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nI really don't want to get into a DidSo-DidNot debate with you.  But\nthis is somewhat at the heart of our disagreement.  I did not say, \nnor did I imply, that I could predict the future.  You have inferred\nthat my comments meant this, and you have based your rebuttal of my\ncomments on the fact that statistical studies have demonstrated that\nthere is no reasonable basis for predicting future performance in\nregard to clutch hitting.\n\n\nSabo\t\t1539\t452\t.294\t\t259\t59\t.228\nSamuel\t\t1564\t383\t.245\t\t278\t83\t.299\t\n\nThat is *your* opinion that Sabo is \"clearly a better hitter\" than\nSamuel.  The above data is for a 4-year period ending last season.\nLast season Samuel batted .272 while Sabo hit .244 (not park adjusted).\nThis season they are both hitting below .200, albeit Sabo with more\nat bats.  I will agree that over his career Sabo has been a better\nhitter than Samuel, but I will also remind you that Samuel has been\na better hitter in certain situations than Sabo.\n\nI did not predict that Sabo would choke, nor that Samuel would get a\nhit.  I expressed my opinion that had I been the Reds manager (or\neven a Reds fan) that I would prefer to have Samuel hit in that\nsituation than Sabo.\n\n\n\nAh.  \"properly\".  Yes.  I see.\n\n\nPlease help me.  What, exactly, is \"everything else\" that pointed to Sabo?\n\n\n\nI must say, I was not aware of the publication.  Can you email me the\ninformation regarding its availability?\n\nAnd I guess I must apologize to all of those who have done extensive \nstudy on, say, supply side economics.  I didn't mean to insult you.\nBut I never did believe you were on the right path.  I'm sorry for\nmy contrary opinion\/position.  I also regret that I don't have the\nability to prove that you are wrong.  But you are.\n \n\n\nIt is what it says it is!\n\n\n\nThe \"second\" is *your* statement, not mine.\n\nWell, actually, I haven't yet.  But I'm not finished looking.\nThat is, I haven't yet found someone who hit significantly below\nhis overall batting average in clutch situations for the years \n1989 - 91, and then reversed that relationship in 1992.\n\n\n\nNope.  Sorry.  But if you were interested in a reason why I expect\nChris Sabo's ability to hit in the clutch to correlate from one\nyear to the next, I think I could.  If you were interested in a\nreason why I expect Joe Carter's ability to hit in the clutch to\ncorrelate from one year to the next, I think I could.  But you're\nnot interested in that, because you think that those conclusions\ncould only be valid if they could be extrapolated over the entire\nbaseball population.  And they can't be.\n\n\n\nThe problem here is that I *do* believe you.  I accept your work.\nI believe that trying to predict future clutch performance based\non prior clutch history is meaningless.  No better than a coin toss.\nI actually *do* accept your work.\n\nAs it happens, I also have an *opinion* that in certain situations,\nfor certain players, a history of superior or inferior ability to\nhit in the clutch might suggest a reason what such history could be\nvalid in projecting future player performance.  For that player.\nAnd Chris Sabo is one such player.\n\n\n\nWell, since I defer to your statistical wisdom, I think I must have\nan open mind.  Now we have to pose the same question to you.\n\n\n\n\n--\tThe Beastmaster\n\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nI have a bayonet in the factory scabbard from a Swedish Mouser mounted to \nthe handlebars of my Zuki'.  That 10\" blade and my long arms do quite well \nthank you.\n\n ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====----","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nAbout six years ago my ears clogged up with wax, probably as a\nresult of to much headphone use.  Anyway, the clinic that cleaned\nthem out used the following procedure:\n\n1. Inject olive oil into ears.\n2. Prevent leakage of oil with cotton.\n3. Come back in an hour.\n4. Rinse ears with warm vater, forcefully injected\n   into ear (very strange sensation).\n5. Done.\n\nThey had special tools to do this, and were evidently quite\nfamiliar with the problem: Very large steel syringe.  Special\nbowl with cutout for ear to take the grime coming out without\nspillage.\n\n\nSeconded,","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Well, I seem to have struck an  interesting discussion off.  Given that I\nam not an astrophysicist  or nuclear physicist,  i'll have to boil it\ndown a bit.\n\n1)  ALl the data on bursts to date,  shows a smooth random distribution.\n\n2)  that means they aren't concentrated in  galactic cores, our or someone\nelses.\n\n3) If the distribution is smooth,  we are either seeing some  ENORMOUSLY\nlarge phenomena  scattered at the edge of the universe  said phenomena\nbeing subject to debate almost as vioent as the phenomena\n\tOR\nwe are seeing some phenomena  out at like the Oort cloud,  but then it needs\nsome potent little energy source,  that isn't detectable  by any other\ncurrent methods.\n\n4)  we know it's not real close,  like  slightly extra solar,  because\nwe have no parallax measurements on the bursts.\n\n5)  the bursts seem to bright to be something like black hole quanta or\nsuper string  impacts or something like that.\n\nSo everyone is watching the data and arguing like mad in the meanwhile.\n\nwhat i am wondering,  is this in people's opinion,  A NEW Physics problem.\n\nEinstein got well known for solvingthe photoelectric effect.   \n\nCopernicus,  started looking at  irregularities in planetary motion.\n\nIs this a big enough problem, to create a new area of physics?\njust a little speculative thinking folks.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nDiesels fall into the same emissions mythology as alcohol fuels.  The main reason\nthey are considered \"cleaner\" is because they are better at the emissions we\nactually measure and regulate.  But they also contribute additional emissions\nwhich have long been determined to be as harmful, but no suitable control or\nlimits have been defined.  \n\nCurrent evidence is pointing to most visible smog actually being diesel emissions\nand suspended particles and less of a photo-chemical reaction.  Diesel particulates\nare now becoming a major concern in decreased lung capacity.  And alcohols emit\nsignifcantly more aldehydes (a known carcinigen) than gasoline.  The evidence\nis mounting that while we have been beating the gasoline engine to death, we may\nhave been ignoring the effects of the alternatives.\n\nAnd anyone who thinks diesels are so great, should go and spend a few hours in\nrush hour traffic in some cities in Europe.  There the stench of the diesels is\nawful and it can even burn the eyes.  \n\nDiesels being clean is only relative to our current standards. ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"For discussion of Nikolai Tesla (who else??)\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nSorry, I don't have the demo, but I do have the program and have been\nusing it for the past few weeks.  Since I now have Dos 6 as well, I\ndon't use many of the features of PCT4Win.  But I do so use:\n\t- the PCT Desktop with drag and drop printing, folders in\n          folders, and multiple desktops\n\t- the file manager which is far superior to win 3.1's fm.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I have the following software for sale, prices are neogotiable,\n\nMS-Window 3.1, by Gateway, with manuals, $20\nMS-Work\twith manuals, $30\nPC-TOOLS 7.1 with all manuals, $40\nMS-DOS 6.0!\t$20\n\nAll softwares are almost new","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"Could someone point me toward a source (FTP\/BBS\/whatever) for development\ntools for the 8051 microprocessor.  I specifically am looking for a Macintosh\ncross-assembler\/disassembler.  Also, is there a mailing-list dedicated to\ndiscussing the 8051?  Thanks.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Minor correction: Hartley came in the West trade to Phily.  Deshaies signed\nas a free agent ($1.7M over 2 years).  He pitched for San Diego last year.\n-- \nRegards,","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"There was a discussion about how real fans were ones who respect their teams\nno matter ow bad they are. That's bullshit. Anyone who would follow the\nPens or the Pirates in parts of the early eighties on a devoted basis are\nlosers. It's OK to follow and be concerned about your home team. But\nto  give them respect even when it is clear the management and the players suck\nshould not be required of a true fan.A  true fan would follow the team in\ntroubled times to the extent that they could discuss how to improve the team.\n\nWhen I visit PIttsburgh, I'll refuse to go to a Pirates game since I think\nthe management has given PIttsburgh a team which could have been much better\neven if they couldn't sign Barry Bonds. Lert's say the Pens start doing to\ntheir own team what the Oilers have done this year and what the Whalers have\ndone in recent years, I would be hard pressed to show much enthusiasm for the\nteam. I'll still follow it and bitch about it. But I won't waste my\nmoney on mediocre teams.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nDrop three billiard balls on a ramp, and they all roll in the same\ndirection.  Pour some blood into the sea, and sharks will converge\nfrom miles around.  Throw a pebble at one starling, and all 200 will\ndepart.\n\nNatural processes can mimic the outward results of conspiracy when no\nactual conspiracy is required.\n\nPut a government functionary in an embarrassing situation, and he\nquickly covers his ass.\n\nThis, too, is completely natural.\n\n\nIt looks that way to me, too.  But you have to understand that it's NOT \nthe first time they have instigated raids like these.  The most recent\none ALSO ended up in a long standoff, but it wasn't quite as public\nas this one, and they didn't kill quite as many people.  Maybe this \nscrewup will make them think long and hard about raiding any more \nresidences in this manner.  But probably not.\n\n\nI assume you're talking about Philadelphia.\n\n\nIf you're a fan of conspiracies, the time to make that batch of\npopcorn is AFTER the screwup, when it's time for the coverup.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Hi! Everyone,\n\nI don't clearly understand 'occlusion' in computer graphics.\nWould you please give me an explanation?\n\nBTW, what's the difference between 'occluded surface' and opaque surface?\n\nThanks in advance.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nFollowing up to my own article...  I found that several people say that \nLAN Server clients can talk to WFW.  Is this, then, also true for LAN\nManager?  (Don't LAN Server and LAN Manager share common roots?)\n\n\nSomewhat less so now...  :)\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"[stuff chopped]\n\nUm, you gotta understand these \"salesdroids\" as you call them.  They look at\nit this way: burn lotsa tire; make lotsa money.  I'm sure s\/ he knew how\nstupid the \"HG\" was.  Would you seriously stop them from burning off \na seasons worth of tire??  The SQUIDS probably would buy Metzelers or some\ngood low profile tire anyhow...\n\nYep.  Them droids sure a sneaky bastards! ;)\n\nRegards, Ted.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n    I too noticed that in all this screaming and shouting, not one \nperson brought up the question of atrocities being commited on non-muslims \nby the Sudanese Government. Could it be that they are Africans and so who\ncares? I suggest that everyone cut the hypocrisy and bleating about Bosnia \nand go on to discuss something even more meaningless.\n\n    The report below shows that the Sudanese are acting in the finest\ntraditions of Islamic law as expounded by some die-hard people on the \nnet (who shall remain nameless). \n\nSudan\n-----\n\nGovernment troops 'steal women, children'\n\n\nWASHINGTON - Government troops in Sudan are involved in massacres,\nkidnapping and the transporting of forced labor into Libya, according\nto a State Department document declassified Wednesday.\n\n    The report compiled by the U.S. embassy in Khartoum said government\nforces, particularly Arab militias organized as the Popular Defense\nForces, \"routinely steal women and children\" in southern Sudan.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Hi \n\nI have heard about a linear mode for the ET4000, in which the 1Mb video \nmemory in linearly accesibly instead of the usual 64k pages. Does anyone\nknow more about this ? How can I enable it and to what address is the\nvideo memory mapped to ?","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Does anyone know if the fabled \/new\/ version of PBM+ will be out soon.  As\nfar as I know the \/current\/ version is 10dec91.\nJeff P. are you out there ? ?? ?","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I think somebody posted some info about a biobliography program one or \ntwo months ago. I don't rember the detail. What I'd like to have is one \nsoftware to organize the literature I'm refereing for scientific \npublications. The functions I'd like would be \na. able to do data-base managment\nb. able to print with special formats for different journals\nAny info would be appreciated.\n+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++\nYi-Ming Wang    Radiation Laboratory, University of Notre Dame\nwang.29@nd.edu\n+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Which would YOU choose, and why?\n\nLike lots of people, I'd really like to increase my data transfer rate from\nthe hard drive.  Right now I have a 15ms 210Mb IDE drive (Seagate 1239A), and\na standard IDE controller card on my ISA 486-50.\n\nI'm currently thinking about adding another HD, in the 300Mb to 500Mb range.\nAnd I'm thinking hard about buying a SCSI drive (SCSI for the future benefit).\nI believe I'm getting something like 890Kb\/sec transfer right now (according\nto NU).\n\nHow would this number compare if I bought the state-of-the-art SCSI card for\nmy ISA PC, and the state-of-the-art SCSI hard drive (the best system I could\nhope for)?\n\nObviously money factors into this choice as well as any other, but what would\nYOU want to use on your ISA system? And how much would it cost?\n\nAlong those lines, what kind of transfer rate could I see with my IDE HD's if I\nwere to buy the top-of-the-line IDE caching controller for my 200Mb, 15ms HD?\nAnd how much would it cost?\n\nThanks for any comments.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nNorman Green claims that he has lost money over the last three years\nthat he has owned the team.  When he bought the team, it seemed kind of\nobvious that he was going to have to deal with a few years in the red,\nbefore the team started making a profit again.  He gave the impression\nthat he was willing to do so.  He claimed two years ago that the team\nneeded to average only 8000+ fans per game in order to pull a profit,\nbut this season the team averaged 12000+ fans, despite increasd ticket\nprices.  I think the team's attendence and play was clearly in an upward\ntrend, which leaves me dumbfounded as to how he could ignore that in\ndeciding to move.  He was even offered the many concessions he rudely\ndemanded, such as guaranteed season ticket sales, cheap rent at the\nother two arenas in town, etc.\n\nOh well, I guess the bottom line is $$$.  Green wanted immediate huge\nreturns in Dallas, and wasn't willing to wait another year or so in MN. \nDallas gave Green a pretty stellar deal to play there (although I feel\nMinnesota's was quite reasonable), and he also has some cronies down\nthere as well.  All this means, is that Minnesota is without an NHL team\nfor a year or two.  Too bad for the NHL.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nra>   Robert, you keep making references to \"orthodox\" belief, and saying\nra> things like \"it is held that...\" (cf. \"Kermit\" thread).  On what\nra> exact body of theology are you drawing for what you call \"orthodox?\"\n\n     \"Orthodox\" is a compound word. It comes from 'orthos' (straight, true, \n     right) and from 'doxa' (opinion, doctrine, teaching). I use orthodox to \n     refer to 'right teaching.' Right teaching is derived from letting God \n     speak to us through the Bible. This can be from reading simple truths \n     in the Scriptures and by using the Bible to interpret the Bible.\n\nra> Who is that \"holds that\" Luke meant what you said he meant?\n\n     I think that it is apparent from reading the Scriptures that are\n     pertinent.\n\n     Luke 23:43 records Christ's promise to the repentant thief who hung on\n     an adjacent cross: \"Truly I say to you, today you will be with Me in\n     paradise.\" But was it not until later that Christ rose from the dead\n     and ascended to heaven? If Christ Himself was not in heaven until\n     Sunday, how could the repentant thief have been there with Him? The\n     answer lies in the location of \"paradise\" when Jesus died.\n\n     Apparently paradise was not exalted to heaven until Easter Day.\n\n     Jesus refers to it in the middle of the story of the rich man and \n     Lazarus as \"Abraham's Bosom,\" to which the godly beggar Lazarus was\n     carried by the angels after his decease (Luke 16:19-31).  Thus\n     \"Abraham's Bosom\" referred to the place where the souls of the redeemed\n     waited till the day of Christ's Resurrection.\n\n     It was not yet lifted to heaven but it may well have been a section of \n     hades (Hebrew: Sheol), reserved for believers who had died in the faith\n     but would not be admitted into the glorious presence of God in heaven\n     until the price of redemption had actually been paid on Calvary; or\n     even that none would precede the presence of Jesus back to glory with\n     the Father.\n\n     Doubtless it was the infernal paradise that the souls of Jesus and the\n     repentant thief repaired after they each died on Friday afternoon. But\n     on Sunday, after the risen Christ had first appeared to Mary Magdalene\n     (John 20:17) and her two companions (Matthew 28:9), presumably He then\n     took up with Him to glory all the inhabitants of infernal paradise\n     (including Abraham, Lazarus, and the repentant thief). We read in\n     Ephesians 4:8 concerning Christ: \"Ascending on high, He led captivity\n     captive; He gave gifts unto men.\" Verse 9 continues: \"But what does `He\n     ascended' mean but that He also descended to the lowest parts of the\n     earth?\" -i.e., to hades. Verse 10 adds: \"He who descended is the same\n     as He who ascended above all the heavens.\" Presumably He led the whole\n     band of liberated captives from hades (i.e., the whole population of\n     preresurrection paradise) up to the glory of heaven.\n\nra> Whenever your personal interpretation of Biblical passages is\nra> challenged, your only response seems to be that one needs merely to\nra> \"look at the Bible\" in order to see the truth, but what of those who\nra> see Biblical things differently from you?\n\n     I think that this characterization is faulty. Whenever my 'personal \n     interpretation' is questioned, I usually give a reason.\n\n     As for those that see things differently, please, put forward where\n     there is a valid difference, and we can discuss it. \n\n     I seem to be seeing from you the notion that any difference in how one \n     views the Bible is somehow legitimate, except, or course, for the stuff \n     that I glean from it. Put forward a contrary view and perhaps we can \n     have a discussion on that topic. But to decry something that I put \n     forward, without putting forward something else to discuss, and to \n     dismiss what I put forward while giving credence to other alleged views\n     that have yet to be put forward is simply being contentious.\n\nra> Are we to simply assume that you are the only one who really\nra> understands it?\n\n     If you believe that something that I have drawn from Scripture is \n     wrong, then please, show me from Scripture where it is wrong.  Simply \n     stating that there are other views is not a proof. Show it to me from \n     Scripture and then we can go on.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nAh! Excellent. So why doesn't she appear to me? I'm a little weak in the\nblind faith department. (Besides, she doesn't even really need to appear:\nhow about, oh say, a little tip - something like \"put your all on #3 in the\n7:30 at the Dog Races\" ... perhaps in a dream or vision.)\n\n\nI'm afraid I don't know arabic; I have only read translations. I wouldn't\nknow it if it were well-written. (Consistent, though, is one thing the Quran\nis not.)  And have *you* read it in arabic?  Besides, some of my best\nwriting has been done under the influence of, shall we say, consciousness\naltering substances.\n\n\nYes, so? How do we know they *weren't* very good? (Again, assuming that the\nQuran is beautfully written.)\n\n\nOk, I retract this point. (Although I might still say that once he knew, he\nshould have done something about it.)\n\n\nI haven't interviewed all muslims about this; I would really like it if this\nwere false. But I can't take it on your say-so - what are your sources?\n\n\nWhat other basis do we have to judge a system? Especially when we can't get\na consistent picture of what Islam \"really\" is. Do I believe Khomeini? Do I\ngo by the Imam of the mosque in Mecca? Or perhaps the guy in New Jersey? Or\nperhaps you say I should go only by the Quran. Ok, whose translation? And\nwhat about things like \"And wherever you find idolators, kill them\"?\n\n-s","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Krzysztof Muchorowski was asking about GIF-to-TGA conversion so that he\ncould use DTA 1.5 to convert the TGA files to FLI animation files.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThis is a heavily edited\/modified version of the Gopher FAQ intended to\ngive people just starting with gopher enough information to get a\nclient and jump into Gopher-space - a complete version can be obtained\nas described below.  Once you have a gopher client point it at \nmerlot.welch.jhu.edu and welcome to gopher-space!\n\n\nDan Jacobson\n\ndanj@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu\n\n-----\n\nCommon Questions and Answers about the Internet Gopher, a\nclient\/server protocol for making a world wide information service,\nwith many implementations.  Posted to comp.infosystems.gopher, \ncomp.answers, and news.answers every two weeks.\n\nThe most recent version of this FAQ can be gotten through gopher, or\nvia anonymous ftp:\n\nrtfm.mit.edu:\/pub\/usenet\/news.answers\/gopher-faq\n\nThose without FTP access should send e-mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu\nwith \"send usenet\/news.answers\/finding-sources\" in the body to find out\nhow to do FTP by e-mail.\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------- \nList of questions in the Gopher FAQ:\n\nQ0:  What is Gopher?\nQ1:  Where can I get Gopher software?\nQ2:  What do I need to access Gopher?\nQ3:  Where are there publicly available logins for Gopher?\nQ4:  Who Develops Gopher Software?\nQ5: What is the relationship between Gopher and (WAIS, WWW, ftp)?\nQ6: Are papers or articles describing Gopher available?\nQ7: What is veronica?\nQ8: What is Available for Biology?\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\nQ0:  What is Gopher?\n\nA0:  The Internet Gopher client\/server provides a distributed\n     information delivery system around which a world\/campus-wide\n     information system (CWIS) can readily be constructed.   While\n     providing a delivery vehicle for local information,  Gopher\n     facilitates access to other Gopher and information servers\n     throughout the world. \n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\nQ1:  Where can I get Gopher software?\n\nA1:  via anonymous ftp to boombox.micro.umn.edu.  Look in the directory\n     \/pub\/gopher\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------\nQ2:  What do I need to access Gopher?\n\nA2:  You will need a gopher \"client\" program that runs on your local PC\n     or workstation\n\n     There are clients for the following systems.  The directory\n     following the name is the location of the client on the anonymous\n     ftp site boombox.micro.umn.edu (134.84.132.2) in the directory\n     \/pub\/gopher.\n\n      Unix Curses & Emacs   :  \/pub\/gopher\/Unix\/gopher1.12.tar.Z\n      Xwindows (athena)     :  \/pub\/gopher\/Unix\/xgopher1.2.tar.Z\n      Xwindows (Motif)      :  \/pub\/gopher\/Unix\/moog\n      Xwindows (Xview)      :  \/pub\/gopher\/Unix\/xvgopher\n      Macintosh Hypercard   :  \/pub\/gopher\/Macintosh-TurboGopher\/old-versions *\n      Macintosh Application :  \/pub\/gopher\/Macintosh-TurboGopher *\n      DOS w\/Clarkson Driver :  \/pub\/gopher\/PC_client\/\n      NeXTstep              :  \/pub\/gopher\/NeXT\/\n      VM\/CMS                :  \/pub\/gopher\/Rice_CMS\/ or \/pub\/gopher\/VieGOPHER\/\n      VMS                   :  \/pub\/gopher\/VMS\/\n      OS\/2 2.0\t            :  \/pub\/gopher\/os2\/\n      MVS\/XA                :  \/pub\/gopher\/mvs\/\n\n     Many other clients and servers have been developed by others, the\n     following is an attempt at a comprehensive list.  \n\n      A Microsoft Windows Winsock client \"The Gopher Book\"\n        sunsite.unc.edu:\/pub\/micro\/pc-stuff\/ms-windows\/winsock\/goph_tbk.zip\n\n      A Macintosh Application, \"MacGopher\".\n        ftp.cc.utah.edu:\/pub\/gopher\/Macintosh *\n\n      Another Macintosh application, \"GopherApp\".\n        ftp.bio.indiana.edu:\/util\/gopher\/gopherapp *\n\n      A port of the UNIX curses client for DOS with PC\/TCP\n        oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu:\/public\/dos\/misc\/dosgopher.exe\n\n      A port of the UNIX curses client for PC-NFS\n     \t bcm.tmc.edu:\/nfs\/gopher.exe\n\n      A beta version of the PC Gopher client for Novell's LAN Workplace\n      for DOS\n         lennon.itn.med.umich.edu:\/dos\/gopher\n\n      A VMS DECwindows client for use with Wollongong or UCX\n         job.acs.ohio-state.edu:XGOPHER_CLIENT.SHARE\n\n\n     * Note: these Macintosh clients require MacTCP.\n\n     Most of the above clients can also be fetched via a gopher client\n     itself.  Put the following on a gopher server:\n\n       Type=1\n       Host=boombox.micro.umn.edu\n       Port=70\n       Path=\n       Name=Gopher Software Distribution.\n\n \n     Or point your gopher client at boombox.micro.umn.edu, port 70 and\n     look in the gopher directory.\n\n\n     There are also a number of public telnet login sites available.\n     The University of Minnesota operates one on the machine\n     \"consultant.micro.umn.edu\" (134.84.132.4) See Q3 for more\n     information about this.  It is recommended that you run the client\n     software instead of logging into the public telnet login sites.  A\n     client uses the custom features of the local machine (mouse,\n     scroll bars, etc.)  A local client is also faster.\n\n---------------------------------------------------------------------\nQ3:  Where are there publicly available logins (ie places to telnet to\n     in order to get a taste of gopher) for Gopher?\n\nA3:  Here is a short list, use the site closest to you to minimize\n     network lag.\n\n     Telnet Public Logins:\n\n     Hostname                  IP#              Login   Area\n     ------------------------- ---------------  ------  -------------\n     consultant.micro.umn.edu  134.84.132.4\tgopher  North America\n     gopher.uiuc.edu           128.174.33.160   gopher  North America\n     panda.uiowa.edu           128.255.40.201\tpanda   North America\n     gopher.sunet.se           192.36.125.2     gopher  Europe\n     info.anu.edu.au           150.203.84.20    info    Australia\n     gopher.chalmers.se        129.16.221.40    gopher  Sweden\n     tolten.puc.cl             146.155.1.16     gopher  South America\n     ecnet.ec\t\t           157.100.45.2     gopher  Ecuador\n     gan.ncc.go.jp             160.190.10.1     gopher  Japan\n\n\n     It is recommended that you run the client software instead of\n     logging into the public login sites.  A client uses the\n     custom features of the local machine (mouse, scroll bars, etc.)\n     and gives faster response.  Furthermore many of the basic features\n     of clients - saving a file to your hard drive, printing a file\n     to a local printer, viewing images, retrieving files from ftp\n     sites etc.... are not available by the telnet logins.\n\n\n\n---------------------------------------------------------------------\nQ4:  Who Develops Gopher Software?\n\nA4:  Gopher was originally developed in April 1991 by the University\n     of Minnesota Microcomputer, Workstation, Networks Center to help\n     our campus find answers to their computer questions.  \n\n     It has since grown into a full-fledged World Wide Information\n     System used by a large number of sites in the world.\n\n     Many people have contributed to the project, too numerous to\n     count. \n\n     The people behind the much of the gopher software can be reached\n     via e-mail at gopher@boombox.micro.umn.edu, or via paper mail:\n   \n      Internet Gopher Developers\n      100 Union St. SE #190\n      Minneapolis, MN 55455  USA\n\n     Or via FAX at:\n \n      +1 (612) 625-6817\n\n---------------------------------------------------------------------\nQ5: What is the relationship between Gopher and (WAIS, WWW, ftp)?\n\nA5: Gopher is intimately intertwined with these two other systems.\n     As shipped the Unix gopher server has the capability to: \n     \n       - Search local WAIS indices.\n       - Query remote WAIS servers and funnel the results to gopher\n         clients.\n       - Query remote ftp sites and funnel the results to gopher\n         clients.\n       - Be queried by WWW (World Wide Web) clients (either using\n         built in gopher querying or using native http querying.\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\nQ6: Are papers or articles describing Gopher available?\n\nA6: Gopher has a whole chapter devoted to it in :\n\n     _The_Whole_Internet_, Ed Kroll, O'Reilly, 1992 (Editors note:\n                             ..Great book, go out and buy a bunch!)\n\n     _The_Internet_Passport: NorthWestNet's Guide to Our World Online\"\n     By Jonathan Kochmer and NorthWestNet. Published by NorthWestNet,\n     Bellevue, WA. 1993. 516 pp. ISBN 0-9635281-0-6. \n     Contact info: passport@nwnet.net, or (206) 562-3000\n\n     _A_Students_Guide_to_UNIX by Harley Hahn. (publisher McGraw Hill,\n     Inc.; 1993 ISBN 0-07-025511-3)\n\n\n     Other references include:\n\n     _The_Internet_Gopher_, \"ConneXions\", July 1992, Interop.\n\n     _Exploring_Internet_GopherSpace_ \"The Internet Society News\", v1n2 1992, \n\n     (You can subscribe to the Internet Society News by sending e-mail to\n      isoc@nri.reston.va.us)\n\n     _The_Internet_Gopher_Protocol_, Proceedings of the Twenty-Third\n          IETF, CNRI, Section 5.3\n\n     _Internet_Gopher_, Proceedings of Canadian Networking '92\n\n     _The_Internet_Gopher_, INTERNET: Getting Started, SRI\n          International, Section 10.5.5\n\n     _Tools_help_Internet_users_discover_on-line_treasures, Computerworld,\n          July 20, 1992\n\n     _TCP\/IP_Network_Administration_, O'Reilly.\n\n      Balakrishan, B. (Oct 1992)\n        \"SPIGopher: Making SPIRES databases accessible through the\n      Gopher protocol\".  SPIRES Fall '92 Workshop, Chapel Hill, North\n      Carolina.\n\n      Tomer, C.  Information Technology Standards for Libraries,\n      _Journal of the American Society for Information Science_,\n      43(8):566-570, Sept 1992.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\nQ7: What is veronica?\n\nA7: veronica:  Very Easy Rodent-Oriented Net-wide Index to \n     Computerized Archives.\n\n     veronica offers a keyword search of most gopher-server menu titles\n     in the entire gopher web.  As archie is to ftp archives, veronica \n     is to gopherspace.  A veronica search produces a menu of gopher\n     items, each of which is a direct pointer to a gopher data source.\n     Because veronica is accessed through a gopher client, it is easy\n     to use, and gives access to all types of data supported by the\n     gopher protocol.\n\n     To try veronica, select it from the \"Other Gophers\" menu on \n     Minnesota's gopher server, or point your gopher at:\n\n     Name=veronica (search menu items in most of GopherSpace) \n     Type=1 \n     Port=70 \n     Path=1\/veronica \n     Host=futique.scs.unr.edu\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nQ8: What is Available for Biology?\n\nA8: There is an incredible amount of software, data and information\n    availble to biologists now by gopher.\n\nHere is a brief list of the Biological Databases that you can search \nvia gopher:\n\n      2.  BDT Tropical Data Base Searches\/\n      3.  Biotechnet Buyers Guide - Online Catalogues for Biology <TEL>\n      4.  Search Protein Data Bank Headers <?>\n      5.  Chlamydomonas Genetics Center \/\n      6.  Crystallization database\/\n      7.  HGMP Databases - Probes and Primers \/\n      8.  Museum of Paleontology TYPE Specimen Index <?>\n      9.  MycDB - Mycobacterium DataBase <?>\n      10. Search (Drosophila) Flybase (Indiana)\/\n      11. Search (GenBank + SWISS-PROT + PIR + PDB)  <?>\n      12. Search AAtDB -  An Arabidopsis thaliana Database <?>\n      13. Search ACEDB - A Caenorhabditis elegans Database <?>\n      14. Search CompoundKB - A Metabolic Compound Database <?>\n      15. Search Databases at Welchlab (Vectors, Promoters, NRL-3D, EST, OMI..\/\n      16. Search EMBL <?>\n      17. Search GenBank <?>\n      18. Search Genbank - 2 <?>\n      19. Search Genbank Updates <?>\n      20. Search LiMB <?>\n      21. Search PIR  <?>\n      22. Search PIR (keyword,species...) <?>\n      23. Search PROSITE <?>\n      24. Search Rebase - Restriction Enzyme Database <?>\n      25. Search SWISS-PROT <?>\n      26. Search TFD <?>\n      27. Search the C. elegans Strain List  <?>\n      28. Search the DNA Database of Japan <?>\n      29. Search the EC Enzyme Database  <?>\n      30. Search the GrainGenes database  <?>\n      31. Search the Maize Database \/\n      32.  Cloning Vectors: plasmids, phage, etc. <?>\n      33.  EPD - Eukaryotic Promoter Database <?>\n      34.  EST - Expressed Sequence Tag Database - Human <?>\n      35.  wEST - Expressed Sequence Tag Database - C. elegans <?>\n      36.  Kabat Database of Proteins of Immunological Interest <?>\n      37.  NRL_3D Protein Sequence-Structure Database <?>\n      38.  OMIM - Online Mendelian Inheritance in Man <?>\n      39.  Seqanalref - Sequence Analysis Bibliographic Reference Data Ban.. <?>\n      40. Search Rebase - Restriction Enzyme Database <?>\n      41. Search the EC Enzyme Database <?>\n      42. Search The Rodent Section of Genbank <?>\n      43. Database Taxonomy (Genbank, Swiss-Prot ...)\/\n      44. Retrieve Full PDB Entries by Accession Number <?>\n      45. Search for All Researchers funded by NIH <?>\n      46. Search for Genome Researchers funded by DOE <?>\n      47. Search for Researchers funded by NSF <?>\n      48. Search for Researchers funded by the USDA <?>\n      49. E-mail Addresses of Crystallographers\/\n      50. E-mail Addresses of Yeast Reasearchers\/\n      51. Phonebooks Around the World\/\n      52.  Search and Retrieve Software for All Computers\/\n      53.  Search and Retrieve Macintosh Software\/\n      54.  Search and Retrieve DOS Software\/\n      55.  Search and Retrieve GNU Software\/\n      56.  Search and Retrieve Software for Biology\/\n      57.  Search for Agricultural Software\/\n      58.  Search and Retrieve Graphics Software and Data\/\n      59.  Search and Retrieve all Online Perl Scripts\/\n      60.  FTP Sites For Biology (56 archives for software and data)\/\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I've written an application for SparcStation 2 GX+, under OpenWindows 3.0.\n\nThe application uses XView stuff to create my window, and the SUN XGL\ngraphics library for rendering into the Canvas.\n\nThe application does real-time 2-D animation, but it does not update the\nthe display fast enough.\nI'm using notify_set_itimer (XView call) to periodically kick off my\nupdate routine, and it's not happening fast enough. I want it to\nupdate 25 times \/ second. It's only doing about 11. Also, it appears to\nbe compute bound, because if I run anything else while my appplication is\nup, the update rate slows down even more.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I was just wondering if exercises specific to particular regions of the\nbody (such as thighs) will basically only tone the thighs, or if fat\nfrom other parts of the body (such as breasts) would be affected just as\nmuch.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Come on Boston, where the hell are you? Seven wins in a row and what, choke?\n\nI'd much rather see the Bruins in the Wales Conference finals vs. Pitt than\nBuffalo or Quebec, if only because it would be more interesting.  Not that\nBuffalo or Quebec can't put up a good fight, but I'd much more enjoy a 7-0\npasteing of the Bruins than the Devils.  You have to feel for Terrerri(sp?).","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"fans into the game but surely they would rather see Broten taking a pass from\nKovalev and scoring a breakaway goal to put the Rangers up 3 (magic #) goals in\nthe third period, rather than seeing Kocur take another stupid penalty and the\nRangers giving up another powerplay goal! \n\nThe Rangers need another top flight center who can take the pressure off\nMessier and the first line.  Nemchinov is a perfect third line center.\n\nSo who goes Beezer or Richter?","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nI saw this a few years ago on \"Tomorrow's World\" (low-brow BBC\ntechnology news program).  The patient is lowered into a bath of\nde-ionized water and carefully positioned.  High intensity pressure\nwaves are generated by an electric spark in the water (you don't get\nelectrocuted because de-ionised water does not conduct).  These waves are\nfocused on the kidneys by a parabolic reflector and cause the stone to\nbreak up.  This is completely painless.\n\nOf course, you then have to get these little bits of gravel through\nthe urethra.  Ouch!\n\nPaul.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Static test firings are now scheduled for this Saturday.....after many\nschedule changes.....","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\ncsrc.ncsl.nist.gov (129.6.54.11) is ftp-able from here...\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nWe use a CD-ROM based system here.  There are about 45 CD-ROM disks and a\n4-disk changer hooked to a dedicated MS-DOS computer.  It contains scanned\nimages of data book pages for several thousand parts.  When you ask it for\nsomething it knows about (mostly active IC parts), it works quite well.\nTHey don't handle all the varieties of transistors or diodes that exist.\nIt is definately a start in the right direction, but they need to expand\nthe data base to handle more types of stuff.\n\nThese systems aren't cheap.  We paid about $7,000 for the liscence and get\nmonthly updates of some of the CD-ROM disks.  We send the old ones back to\nthem so that they will keep sending us the updates.  I think we pay a\nyearly maintainence fee of about $1,500 to get the updates.\n\nIf you find the part you want, you can look at the data sheet on a\npage-sized monitor (it's a special monitor from SigmaSystems).  You can\nalso print each page of the datasheet you want on a LaserJet printer.  Page\nprinting takes a couple of minutes per page.  It can take a while to dump\nthe 5 or 6 pages you usually need.\n\nI have a feeling the maker wouldn't like it if we made the data available\nto all Internet users.    :-)\n\n  -dave\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"The following partial summary of a Theory of the Universe includes a\nlittle-known description of the CREATION of our Solar System:\n\n\n                      LARSONIAN Astronomy and Physics\n\n               Orthodox physicists, astronomers, and astrophysicists \n          CLAIM to be looking for a \"Unified Field Theory\" in which all \n          of the forces of the universe can be explained with a single \n          set of laws or equations.  But they have been systematically \n          IGNORING or SUPPRESSING an excellent one for 30 years! \n\n               The late Physicist Dewey B. Larson's comprehensive \n          GENERAL UNIFIED Theory of the physical universe, which he \n          calls the \"Reciprocal System\", is built on two fundamental \n          postulates about the physical and mathematical natures of \n          space and time: \n    \n               (1) \"The physical universe is composed ENTIRELY of ONE \n          component, MOTION, existing in THREE dimensions, in DISCRETE \n          UNITS, and in two RECIPROCAL forms, SPACE and TIME.\" \n    \n               (2) \"The physical universe conforms to the relations of \n          ORDINARY COMMUTATIVE mathematics, its magnitudes are \n          ABSOLUTE, and its geometry is EUCLIDEAN.\" \n    \n               From these two postulates, Larson developed a COMPLETE \n          Theoretical Universe, using various combinations of \n          translational, vibrational, rotational, and vibrational-\n          rotational MOTIONS, the concepts of IN-ward and OUT-ward \n          SCALAR MOTIONS, and speeds in relation to the Speed of Light \n          (which Larson called \"UNIT VELOCITY\" and \"THE NATURAL \n          DATUM\"). \n      \n               At each step in the development, Larson was able to \n          MATCH objects in his Theoretical Universe with objects in the \n          REAL physical universe, (photons, sub-atomic particles \n          [INCOMPLETE ATOMS], charges, atoms, molecules, globular star \n          clusters, galaxies, binary star systems, solar systems, white \n          dwarf stars, pulsars, quasars, ETC.), even objects NOT YET \n          DISCOVERED THEN (such as EXPLODING GALAXIES, and GAMMA-RAY \n          BURSTS). \n          \n               And applying his Theory to his NEW model of the atom, \n          Larson was able to precisely and accurately CALCULATE inter-\n          atomic distances in crystals and molecules, compressibility \n          and thermal expansion of solids, and other properties of \n          matter. \n\n               All of this is described in good detail, with-OUT fancy \n          complex mathematics, in his books. \n    \n\n\n          BOOKS of Dewey B. Larson\n          \n               The following is a complete list of the late Physicist \n          Dewey B. Larson's books about his comprehensive GENERAL \n          UNIFIED Theory of the physical universe.  Some of the early \n          books are out of print now, but still available through \n          inter-library loan. \n    \n               \"The Structure of the Physical Universe\" (1959) \n    \n               \"The Case AGAINST the Nuclear Atom\" (1963)\n    \n               \"Beyond Newton\" (1964) \n    \n               \"New Light on Space and Time\" (1965) \n    \n               \"Quasars and Pulsars\" (1971) \n    \n               \"NOTHING BUT MOTION\" (1979) \n                    [A $9.50 SUBSTITUTE for the $8.3 BILLION \"Super \n                                                            Collider\".] \n                    [The last four chapters EXPLAIN chemical bonding.]\n\n               \"The Neglected Facts of Science\" (1982) \n     \n               \"THE UNIVERSE OF MOTION\" (1984)\n                    [FINAL SOLUTIONS to most ALL astrophysical\n                                                            mysteries.] \n      \n               \"BASIC PROPERTIES OF MATTER\" (1988)\n\n               All but the last of these books were published by North \n          Pacific Publishers, P.O. Box 13255, Portland, OR  97213, and \n          should be available via inter-library loan if your local \n          university or public library doesn't have each of them. \n\n               Several of them, INCLUDING the last one, are available \n          from: The International Society of Unified Science (ISUS), \n          1680 E. Atkin Ave., Salt Lake City, Utah  84106.  This is the \n          organization that was started to promote Larson's Theory.  \n          They have other related publications, including the quarterly \n          journal \"RECIPROCITY\". \n\n          \n\n          Physicist Dewey B. Larson's Background\n    \n               Physicist Dewey B. Larson was a retired Engineer \n          (Chemical or Electrical).  He was about 91 years old when he \n          died in May 1989.  He had a Bachelor of Science Degree in \n          Engineering Science from Oregon State University.  He \n          developed his comprehensive GENERAL UNIFIED Theory of the \n          physical universe while trying to develop a way to COMPUTE \n          chemical properties based only on the elements used. \n    \n               Larson's lack of a fancy \"PH.D.\" degree might be one \n          reason that orthodox physicists are ignoring him, but it is \n          NOT A VALID REASON.  Sometimes it takes a relative outsider \n          to CLEARLY SEE THE FOREST THROUGH THE TREES.  At the same \n          time, it is clear from his books that he also knew ORTHODOX \n          physics and astronomy as well as ANY physicist or astronomer, \n          well enough to point out all their CONTRADICTIONS, AD HOC \n          ASSUMPTIONS, PRINCIPLES OF IMPOTENCE, IN-CONSISTENCIES, ETC.. \n     \n               Larson did NOT have the funds, etc. to experimentally \n          test his Theory.  And it was NOT necessary for him to do so.  \n          He simply compared the various parts of his Theory with OTHER \n          researchers' experimental and observational data.  And in \n          many cases, HIS explanation FIT BETTER. \n    \n               A SELF-CONSISTENT Theory is MUCH MORE than the ORTHODOX \n          physicists and astronomers have!  They CLAIM to be looking \n          for a \"unified field theory\" that works, but have been \n          IGNORING one for over 30 years now! \n    \n               \"Modern physics\" does NOT explain the physical universe \n          so well.  Some parts of some of Larson's books are FULL of \n          quotations of leading orthodox physicists and astronomers who \n          agree.  And remember that \"epicycles\", \"crystal spheres\", \n          \"geocentricity\", \"flat earth theory\", etc., ALSO once SEEMED \n          to explain it well, but were later proved CONCEPTUALLY WRONG. \n    \n    \n               Prof. Frank H. Meyer, Professor Emeritus of UW-Superior, \n          was\/is a STRONG PROPONENT of Larson's Theory, and was (or \n          still is) President of Larson's organization, \"THE \n          INTERNATIONAL SOCIETY OF UNIFIED SCIENCE\", and Editor of \n          their quarterly Journal \"RECIPROCITY\".  He moved to \n          Minneapolis after retiring. \n    \n\n\n          \"Super Collider\" BOONDOGGLE!\n          \n               I am AGAINST contruction of the \"Superconducting Super \n          Collider\", in Texas or anywhere else.  It would be a GROSS \n          WASTE of money, and contribute almost NOTHING of \"scientific\" \n          value. \n    \n               Most physicists don't realize it, but, according to the \n          comprehensive GENERAL UNIFIED Theory of the late Physicist \n          Dewey B. Larson, as described in his books, the strange GOOFY \n          particles (\"mesons\", \"hyperons\", ALLEGED \"quarks\", etc.) \n          which they are finding in EXISTING colliders (Fermi Lab, \n          Cern, etc.) are really just ATOMS of ANTI-MATTER, which are \n          CREATED by the high-energy colliding beams, and which quickly \n          disintegrate like cosmic rays because they are incompatible \n          with their environment. \n    \n               A larger and more expensive collider will ONLY create a \n          few more elements of anti-matter that the physicists have not \n          seen there before, and the physicists will be EVEN MORE \n          CONFUSED THAN THEY ARE NOW! \n    \n               Are a few more types of anti-matter atoms worth the $8.3 \n          BILLION cost?!!  Don't we have much more important uses for \n          this WASTED money?! \n    \n     \n               Another thing to consider is that the primary proposed \n          location in Texas has a serious and growing problem with some \n          kind of \"fire ants\" eating the insulation off underground \n          cables.  How much POISONING of the ground and ground water \n          with insecticides will be required to keep the ants out of \n          the \"Supercollider\"?! \n    \n          \n               Naming the \"Super Collider\" after Ronald Reagon, as \n          proposed, is TOTALLY ABSURD!  If it is built, it should be \n          named after a leading particle PHYSICIST. \n      \n\n\n          LARSONIAN Anti-Matter\n          \n               In Larson's comprehensive GENERAL UNIFIED Theory of the \n          physical universe, anti-matter is NOT a simple case of \n          opposite charges of the same types of particles.  It has more \n          to do with the rates of vibrations and rotations of the \n          photons of which they are made, in relation to the \n          vibrational and rotational equivalents of the speed of light, \n          which Larson calls \"Unit Velocity\" and the \"Natural Datum\". \n     \n               In Larson's Theory, a positron is actually a particle of \n          MATTER, NOT anti-matter.  When a positron and electron meet, \n          the rotational vibrations (charges) and rotations of their \n          respective photons (of which they are made) neutralize each \n          other. \n      \n               In Larson's Theory, the ANTI-MATTER half of the physical \n          universe has THREE dimensions of TIME, and ONLY ONE dimension \n          of space, and exists in a RECIPROCAL RELATIONSHIP to our \n          MATERIAL half. \n       \n\n\n          LARSONIAN Relativity\n          \n               The perihelion point in the orbit of the planet Mercury \n          has been observed and precisely measured to ADVANCE at the \n          rate of 574 seconds of arc per century.  531 seconds of this \n          advance are attributed via calculations to gravitational \n          perturbations from the other planets (Venus, Earth, Jupiter, \n          etc.).  The remaining 43 seconds of arc are being used to \n          help \"prove\" Einstein's \"General Theory of Relativity\". \n    \n               But the late Physicist Dewey B. Larson achieved results \n          CLOSER to the 43 seconds than \"General Relativity\" can, by \n          INSTEAD using \"SPECIAL Relativity\".  In one or more of his \n          books, he applied the LORENTZ TRANSFORMATION on the HIGH \n          ORBITAL SPEED of Mercury. \n    \n               Larson TOTALLY REJECTED \"General Relativity\" as another \n          MATHEMATICAL FANTASY.  He also REJECTED most of \"Special \n          Relativity\", including the parts about \"mass increases\" near \n          the speed of light, and the use of the Lorentz Transform on \n          doppler shifts, (Those quasars with red-shifts greater than \n          1.000 REALLY ARE MOVING FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT, \n          although most of that motion is away from us IN TIME.). \n     \n               In Larson's comprehensive GENERAL UNIFIED Theory of the \n          physical universe, there are THREE dimensions of time instead \n          of only one.  But two of those dimensions can NOT be measured \n          from our material half of the physical universe.  The one \n          dimension that we CAN measure is the CLOCK time.  At low \n          relative speeds, the values of the other two dimensions are \n          NEGLIGIBLE; but at high speeds, they become significant, and \n          the Lorentz Transformation must be used as a FUDGE FACTOR. \n          [Larson often used the term \"COORDINATE TIME\" when writing \n          about this.] \n    \n     \n               In regard to \"mass increases\", it has been PROVEN in \n          atomic accelerators that acceleration drops toward zero near \n          the speed of light.  But the formula for acceleration is \n          ACCELERATION = FORCE \/ MASS, (a = F\/m).  Orthodox physicists \n          are IGNORING the THIRD FACTOR: FORCE.  In Larson's Theory, \n          mass STAYS CONSTANT and FORCE drops toward zero.  FORCE is \n          actually a MOTION, or COMBINATIONS of MOTIONS, or RELATIONS \n          BETWEEN MOTIONS, including INward and OUTward SCALAR MOTIONS.  \n          The expansion of the universe, for example, is an OUTward \n          SCALAR motion inherent in the universe and NOT a result of \n          the so-called \"Big Bang\" (which is yet another MATHEMATICAL \n          FANTASY). \n    \n                                    \n          \n          THE UNIVERSE OF MOTION\n\n               I wish to recommend to EVERYONE the book \"THE UNIVERSE \n          OF MOTION\", by Dewey B. Larson, 1984, North Pacific \n          Publishers, (P.O. Box 13255, Portland, Oregon  97213), 456 \n          pages, indexed, hardcover. \n    \n               It contains the Astrophysical portions of a GENERAL \n          UNIFIED Theory of the physical universe developed by that \n          author, an UNrecognized GENIUS, more than thirty years ago. \n    \n               It contains FINAL SOLUTIONS to most ALL Astrophysical \n          mysteries, including the FORMATION of galaxies, binary and \n          multiple star systems, and solar systems, the TRUE ORIGIN of \n          the \"3-degree\" background radiation, cosmic rays, and gamma-\n          ray bursts, and the TRUE NATURE of quasars, pulsars, white \n          dwarfs, exploding galaxies, etc.. \n    \n               It contains what astronomers and astrophysicists are ALL \n          looking for, if they are ready to seriously consider it with \n          OPEN MINDS! \n    \n               The following is an example of his Theory's success: \n          In his first book in 1959, \"THE STRUCTURE OF THE PHYSICAL \n          UNIVERSE\", Larson predicted the existence of EXPLODING \n          GALAXIES, several years BEFORE astronomers started finding \n          them.  They are a NECESSARY CONSEQUENCE of Larson's \n          comprehensive Theory.  And when QUASARS were discovered, he \n          had an immediate related explanation for them also. \n    \n\n \n          GAMMA-RAY BURSTS\n\n               Astro-physicists and astronomers are still scratching \n          their heads about the mysterious GAMMA-RAY BURSTS.  They were \n          originally thought to originate from \"neutron stars\" in the \n          disc of our galaxy.  But the new Gamma Ray Telescope now in \n          Earth orbit has been detecting them in all directions \n          uniformly, and their source locations in space do NOT \n          correspond to any known objects, (except for a few cases of \n          directional coincidence). \n    \n               Gamma-ray bursts are a NECESSARY CONSEQUENCE of the \n          GENERAL UNIFIED Theory of the physical universe developed by \n          the late Physicist Dewey B. Larson.  According to page 386 of \n          his book \"THE UNIVERSE OF MOTION\", published in 1984, the \n          gamma-ray bursts are coming from SUPERNOVA EXPLOSIONS in the \n          ANTI-MATTER HALF of the physical universe, which Larson calls \n          the \"Cosmic Sector\".  Because of the relationship between the \n          anti-matter and material halves of the physical universe, and \n          the way they are connected together, the gamma-ray bursts can \n          pop into our material half anywhere in space, seemingly at \n          random.  (This is WHY the source locations of the bursts do \n          not correspond with known objects, and come from all \n          directions uniformly.) \n    \n               I wonder how close to us in space a source location \n          would have to be for a gamma-ray burst to kill all or most \n          life on Earth!  There would be NO WAY to predict one, NOR to \n          stop it! \n    \n               Perhaps some of the MASS EXTINCTIONS of the past, which \n          are now being blamed on impacts of comets and asteroids, were \n          actually caused by nearby GAMMA-RAY BURSTS! \n    \n\n\n          LARSONIAN Binary Star Formation\n          \n               About half of all the stars in the galaxy in the \n          vicinity of the sun are binary or double.  But orthodox \n          astronomers and astrophysicists still have no satisfactory \n          theory about how they form or why there are so many of them. \n    \n               But binary star systems are actually a LIKELY \n          CONSEQUENCE of the comprehensive GENERAL UNIFIED Theory of \n          the physical universe developed by the late Physicist Dewey \n          B. Larson. \n    \n               I will try to summarize Larsons explanation, which is \n          detailed in Chapter 7 of his book \"THE UNIVERSE OF MOTION\" \n          and in some of his other books. \n    \n               First of all, according to Larson, stars do NOT generate \n          energy by \"fusion\".  A small fraction comes from slow \n          gravitational collapse.  The rest results from the COMPLETE \n          ANNIHILATION of HEAVY elements (heavier than IRON).  Each \n          element has a DESTRUCTIVE TEMPERATURE LIMIT.  The heavier the \n          element is, the lower is this limit.  A star's internal \n          temperature increases as it grows in mass via accretion and \n          absorption of the decay products of cosmic rays, gradually \n          reaching the destructive temperature limit of lighter and \n          lighter elements. \n    \n               When the internal temperature of the star reaches the \n          destructive temperature limit of IRON, there is a Type I \n          SUPERNOVA EXPLOSION!  This is because there is SO MUCH iron \n          present; and that is related to the structure of iron atoms \n          and the atom building process, which Larson explains in some \n          of his books [better than I can]. \n    \n               When the star explodes, the lighter material on the \n          outer portion of the star is blown outward in space at less \n          than the speed of light.  The heavier material in the center \n          portion of the star was already bouncing around at close to \n          the speed of light, because of the high temperature.  The \n          explosion pushes that material OVER the speed of light, and \n          it expands OUTWARD IN TIME, which is equivalent to INWARD IN \n          SPACE, and it often actually DISAPPEARS for a while. \n    \n               Over long periods of time, both masses start to fall \n          back gravitationally.  The material that had been blown \n          outward in space now starts to form a RED GIANT star.  The \n          material that had been blown OUTWARD IN TIME starts to form a \n          WHITE DWARF star.  BOTH stars then start moving back toward \n          the \"MAIN SEQUENCE\" from opposite directions on the H-R \n          Diagram. \n    \n               The chances of the two masses falling back into the \n          exact same location in space, making a single lone star \n          again, are near zero.  They will instead form a BINARY \n          system, orbiting each other. \n     \n               According to Larson, a white dwarf star has an INVERSE \n          DENSITY GRADIENT (is densest at its SURFACE), because the \n          material at its center is most widely dispersed (blown \n          outward) in time.   This ELIMINATES the need to resort to \n          MATHEMATICAL FANTASIES about \"degenerate matter\", \"neutron \n          stars\", \"black holes\", etc.. \n    \n\n\n          LARSONIAN Solar System Formation\n\n               If the mass of the heavy material at the center of the \n          exploding star is relatively SMALL, then, instead of a single \n          white dwarf star, there will be SEVERAL \"mini\" white dwarf \n          stars (revolving around the red giant star, but probably \n          still too far away in three-dimensional TIME to be affected \n          by its heat, etc.).  These will become PLANETS! \n      \n               In Chapter 7 of THE UNIVERSE OF MOTION, Larson used all \n          this information, and other principles of his comprehensive \n          GENERAL UNIFIED Theory of the physical universe, to derive \n          his own version of Bode's Law. \n          \n\n\n          \"Black Hole\" FANTASY!\n\n               I heard that physicist Stephen W. Hawking recently \n          completed a theoretical mathematical analysis of TWO \"black \n          holes\" merging together into a SINGLE \"black hole\", and \n          concluded that the new \"black hole\" would have MORE MASS than \n          the sum of the two original \"black holes\". \n    \n               Such a result should be recognized by EVERYone as a RED \n          FLAG, causing widespread DOUBT about the whole IDEA of \"black \n          holes\", etc.! \n    \n               After reading Physicist Dewey B. Larson's books about \n          his comprehensive GENERAL UNIFIED Theory of the physical \n          universe, especially his book \"THE UNIVERSE OF MOTION\", it is \n          clear to me that \"black holes\" are NOTHING more than \n          MATHEMATICAL FANTASIES!  The strange object at Cygnus X-1 is \n          just an unusually massive WHITE DWARF STAR, NOT the \"black \n          hole\" that orthodox astronomers and physicists so badly want \n          to \"prove\" their theory. \n    \n    \n               By the way, I do NOT understand why so much publicity is \n          being given to physicist Stephen Hawking.  The physicists and \n          astronomers seem to be acting as if Hawking's severe physical \n          problem somehow makes him \"wiser\".  It does NOT! \n    \n               I wish the same attention had been given to Physicist \n          Dewey B. Larson while he was still alive.  Widespread \n          publicity and attention should NOW be given to Larson's \n          Theory, books, and organization (The International Society of \n          Unified Science). \n          \n          \n          \n          ELECTRO-MAGNETIC PROPULSION\n\n               I heard of that concept many years ago, in connection \n          with UFO's and unorthodox inventors, but I never was able to \n          find out how or why they work, or how they are constructed. \n    \n               I found a possible clue about why they might work on \n          pages 112-113 of the book \"BASIC PROPERTIES OF MATTER\", by \n          the late Physicist Dewey B. Larson, which describes part of \n          Larson's comprehensive GENERAL UNIFIED Theory of the physical \n          universe.  I quote one paragraph: \n    \n               \"As indicated in the preceding chapter, the development \n          of the theory of the universe of motion arrives at a totally \n          different concept of the nature of electrical resistance.  \n          The electrons, we find, are derived from the environment.  It \n          was brought out in Volume I [Larson's book \"NOTHING BUT \n          MOTION\"] that there are physical processes in operation which \n          produce electrons in substantial quantities, and that, \n          although the motions that constitute these electrons are, in \n          many cases, absorbed by atomic structures, the opportunities \n          for utilizing this type of motion in such structures are \n          limited.  It follows that there is always a large excess of \n          free electrons in the material sector [material half] of the \n          universe, most of which are uncharged.  In this uncharged \n          state the electrons cannot move with respect to extension \n          space, because they are inherently rotating units of space, \n          and the relation of space to space is not motion.  In open \n          space, therefore, each uncharged electron remains permanently \n          in the same location with respect to the natural reference \n          system, in the manner of a photon.  In the context of the \n          stationary spatial reference system the uncharged electron, \n          like the photon, is carried outward at the speed of light by \n          the progression of the natural reference system.  All \n          material aggregates are thus exposed to a flux of electrons \n          similar to the continual bombardment by photons of radiation.  \n          Meanwhile there are other processes, to be discussed later, \n          whereby electrons are returned to the environment.  The \n          electron population of a material aggregate such as the earth \n          therefore stabilizes at an equilibrium level.\" \n          \n               Note that in Larson's Theory, UNcharged electrons are \n          also massLESS, and are basically photons of light of a \n          particular frequency (above the \"unit\" frequency) spinning \n          around one axis at a particular rate (below the \"unit\" rate).  \n          (\"Unit velocity\" is the speed of light, and there are \n          vibrational and rotational equivalents to the speed of light, \n          according to Larson's Theory.)  [I might have the \"above\" and \n          \"below\" labels mixed up.] \n    \n               Larson is saying that outer space is filled with mass-\n          LESS UN-charged electrons flying around at the speed of \n          light! \n    \n               If this is true, then the ELECTRO-MAGNETIC PROPULSION \n          fields of spacecraft might be able to interact with these \n          electrons, or other particles in space, perhaps GIVING them a \n          charge (and mass) and shooting them toward the rear to \n          achieve propulsion. (In Larson's Theory, an electrical charge \n          is a one-dimensional rotational vibration of a particular \n          frequency (above the \"unit\" frequency) superimposed on the \n          rotation of the particle.) \n      \n               The paragraph quoted above might also give a clue to \n          confused meteorologists about how and why lightning is \n          generated in clouds. \n\n\n\n          SUPPRESSION of LARSONIAN Physics\n\n               The comprehensive GENERAL UNIFIED Theory of the physical \n          universe developed by the late Physicist Dewey B. Larson has \n          been available for more than 30 YEARS, published in 1959 in \n          his first book \"THE STRUCTURE OF THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE\". \n    \n               It is TOTALLY UN-SCIENTIFIC for Hawking, Wheeler, Sagan, \n          and the other SACRED PRIESTS of the RELIGION they call \n          \"science\" (or \"physics\", or \"astronomy\", etc.), as well as \n          the \"scientific\" literature and the \"education\" systems, to \n          TOTALLY IGNORE Larson's Theory has they have. \n    \n               Larson's Theory has excellent explanations for many \n          things now puzzling orthodox physicists and astronomers, such \n          as gamma-ray bursts and the nature of quasars. \n    \n               Larson's Theory deserves to be HONESTLY and OPENLY \n          discussed in the physics, chemistry, and astronomy journals, \n          in the U.S. and elsewhere.  And at least the basic principles \n          of Larson's Theory should be included in all related courses \n          at UW-EC, UW-Madison, Cambridge, Cornell University, and \n          elsewhere, so that students are not kept in the dark about a \n          worthy alternative to the DOGMA they are being fed. \n    \n          \n\n               For more information, answers to your questions, etc., \n          please consult my CITED SOURCES (especially Larson's BOOKS). \n\n\n\n               UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this \n          IMPORTANT partial summary is ENCOURAGED. \n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
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{"text":"Hi All.\n\n I am working on a project in visual basic ver. 2.0 and I need to show\n PostCript files I am getting from another aplication.\n So, because i can't show PostScript directly form Visual Basic (at least I\n don't know how), i need a utility to convert them to BMP, WMF.\n\n Any help will be appreshieated.\n\n kobi elimelech\n---------------------------------------------------------------\n messges can be sent to me at kobi@asimov.hacktic.nl","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n[ Deletia; in case anybody hadn't noticed, Frank and I are debating\n  \"objective morality\", and seemingly hitting semantics. ]\n\n\n      It may be that, being a non-native English-speaker, I've\nmisunderstood your usage of \"objective\", and tried to debate something\nyou don't assert; my apologies. I'm at a loss to imagine what you really\ndo mean, though.\n\n\n      Wrong point. The age of the universe has no direct effect on\nhumanity's sticking power, in the way the moral system of a society can\nhave.\n\n      I'm saying the Universe has a \"real age\", because I see evidence\nfor it; cosmology, astronomy and so on. I say this age is independent of\npeople's opinions of it, because I know different people have a lot of\ndifferent opinions in the matter, yet empirical tests consistently seem\nto give roughly the same results.\n\n\n      I can't see how it does that. Put a creationist to the task of\nperforming the tests and calculations, see to it (s)he makes no blatant\nerrors in measuring or calculating, and the result of the test will be\nthe same.\n\n\n      Because logically consistent empirical tests contradict their\nopinion. If those tests were just my opinion, then their own tests\n(which would then be their opinion) would contradict mine, even if we\nconducted said tests in identical manner, no? They don't, which I take\nas showing these tests have some validity beyond our opinion of them.\n\n\n      Map the activity of nerves and neural activity, if you mean\nphysical pain. You have a sharp point, I'll give you that; but you still\nhaven't given me a way to quantify morality.\n\n\n      We agree. Hypotheses, however, can change; I hold that there is no\n\"ultimate hypothesis of morality\" towards which these changes could\ngravitate, but that they could be changed in any way imaginable,\nproducing different results suitable for different tasks or purposes.\n\n\n      \"Better\" and \"worse\" are (almost?) always defined in the context\nof a moral system. Your prediction will _always_ be correct, *within*\n*that* *moral* *system*. What you need now is an objective definition of\n\"good\" and \"bad\"; I wish you luck.\n\n\n      Isn't that what _you're_ doing, when assuming an \"objectively\nreal\" morality? Besides, what _exactly_ is provably wrong with my\nstatement?\n\n\n      Claiming there is no objective morality is suddenly a positive\nclaim? Besides, I think I _can_ lend some credence to my claim; ponder\ndifferent individuals, both fully functional as human beings and members\nof society, but yet with wildly different moral codes. If morality was\n\"objective\", at least one should be way off base, but yet hir\n'incorrect' morality seems to function fine. How come?\n\n      As for producing these individuals, it might be easiest to pick\nthem from different societies; say, an islamic one and some polynesian\nmatrilineal system, for example (if such still exist).\n\n[ deletia - testing for footballs on desks ]\n\n\n      One thing is \"good\" under some circumstances, because we wish to\nachieve some goal, for some reason. Other times we wish to do something\nelse, and that thing is no longer so clearly \"good\" at all.\n\n      Some things are hard to make \"good\", because we'd seldom if ever\nwish to achieve the sort of goal mass murder would lead one into. Still,\nthe Aztecs were doing fine until the Spaniards wiped them out.\n\n      I almost always know what \"good\" means; sometimes I even know why.\nI never claim this \"good\" is thereby fixed in stone, immutable.\n\n[...]\n\n      Yes, me too, and I've tried a thing or two down that line; it\ndoesn't look good for objective values to me at all.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nI suppose after Waco, it's only prudent to leave the \"to the death\" part out.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"[heats of formation deleted]\n\nThe major problem with this is that the reaction takes place in an ACID solution.\nPbSO4 is soluble in an acid solution and will not precipitate out.  Also, H2SO4\nis in a water solution as 2H30+ and SO4--.  Thus the heats of formation of\nPbSO4 and H2SO4 are for the most part irrelevant.\n\n\nAs it turns out the reaction is indeed exothermic (heat producing).\n(More about this later.)\n\nWhat actually happens to make the battery completely useless is this:\n(we're talking lead-acid batteries of course)\nThe battery slowly self discharges.  As this discharge takes place two things\nhappen. -The level of Pb++ ions in the acid solution increases (i.e. the lead\n           and lead oxide plates are dissolved).\n        -The level of H30+ ions in the acid solution decreases (i.e. the solution\n           becomes less acidic, or more like water if you like).\nNow, as the post to which I am responding correctly stated, PbSO4 will precipitate\nin a WATER (non-acid) solution.  When the battery dies (i.e. is fully discharged)\nwe end up with a high concentration of Pb++ and SO4-- in water.  So PbSO4\nforms in the solution and FALLS TO THE BOTTOM OF THE BATTERY (of course this\nhappens in varying degrees, the more discharged, the more precipitate forms).\n\nThe precipitate forms a conductive layer on the bottom of the battery.  If\nthere is enough of the lead and lead oxide plates left to touch the precipitate\n(more common in a newer battery) a dead short results.\n\nI have seen products in automotive shops to correct this condition, but they\nare for the most part useless.  They can dissolve the PbSO4 but cannot restore\nthe lead and lead oxide plates properly.  You may have some success with\nthese products for a newer battery.\n\n[stuff deleted]\n[stuff deleted]\n\nThis stuff is just made up by the author and is completely invalid.\nIn fact the discharge reaction takes place at a higher rate at higher\ntemperatures.  A logical consequence of the above argument is this:\n\"If you really want your car to start, lower the battery temperature to\n -50 to 'pull' the reaction along.\"  We all know from experience (at\n least those of us in Canada do (it gets cold up here)) that this is\nnot true.  If we want to start our car on a really cold day we warm\nthe battery.\n\n(Besides which, there is not enough energy released through self discharge\n to appreciably raise the temperature.  The air would amply dissipate any\n such heat, whether the bottom of the battery was insulated or not.  This\n is of course irrelevant, since you would WANT the battery to be cool\n during storage.)","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\tI'm also interested in Mac based BBS, but not in Chicago.\nI would greatly appreciate it if someone could post a list of BBSs\nin the LA area. Preferably (818) but also (213). Thanks.  Dan\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nIt's not the temperature, it's the karma.  You see, dirt has good karma,\nsince it's all organic and full of living things, but cement is all squared\noff and artificial looking, and has lost its karma in the process.  Being\na karma sink, it sucks all of the good karma out of the battery which is no\nlonger able to keep a charge.  Because wood is also good and organic, putting\na board between the battery and the cement will fix the problems.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"it's\nwith\ncars;\n\nI wonder if you could focus the RFI \"gun\" so the cops wouldn't have this  \nproblem???","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Could someone please post a list of good three-D modelers that will\nrun on SPARC stations; preferably cheap.  Thanks","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\n\nTo put it bluntly, they are full of it.\n\nPaying a tape is playing a tape.  There is no difference whether the \noutput goes to a second VCR or to a TV.  (How the VCR or TV reacts to \nthis signal is a different story - see messages pertaining to macrovision \ncopy protection.)\n\nIn order for the tape to self-destruct, it would have to have circuitry \nof its own within the tape case.  The circuit would have to somehow \nmagically determine what the output of the VCR is connected to.  The \ncircuit would then have to have an erasing head to actually do anything.\n\nIt is a pretty lame scare tactic.  (I've seen something similar on a BBS.\nWhen the SYSOP wanted to, he could have a message sent to the user's end \nsaying that it is sending the code to format your HD.)\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"In Space Digest V16 #487,\n\n...about the protests over proposals to put a giant billboard into orbit,\n\n\n\nMr. Hathaway's post is right on the money, if a little lengthy.  In short,\nan orbiting billboard would be trash, in the same way that a billboard on\nthe Earth is trash.  Billboards make a place look trashy.  That is why there\nare laws in many places prohibiting their use.  The light pollution\ncomplaints are mainly an attempt to find some tangible reason to be against\norbiting billboards because people don't feel morally justified to complain\non the grounds that these things would defile the beauty of the sky.\n\nRegular orbiting spacecraft are not the same in this respect, since they are\nmore like abstract entities, but a billboard in space would be like a beer\ncan somebody had thrown on the side of the road: just trash.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nYeah, but I hate to follow them with the exhaust at ground level. Not all\ndiesels are well maintained, either, it seems they run for so long that\npeople keep them going long after the top end is worn out.\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\njfc> If gamma ray bursters are extragalactic, would absorption from the\njfc> galaxy be expected?  How transparent is the galactic core to gamma\njfc> rays?\n\nand later...\n\nJB> So, if the 1\/r^2 law is incorrect (assume\nJB> some unknown material [dark matter??] inhibits Gamma Ray propagation),\nJB> could it be possible that we are actually seeing much less energetic\nJB> events happening much closer to us?  The even distribution could\nJB> be caused by the characteristic propagation distance of gamma rays \nJB> being shorter then 1\/2 the thickness of the disk of the galaxy.\n\n\n 0.\n\n Well, maybe not zero, but very little.  At the typical energies for \n gamma rays, the Galaxy is effectively transparent. \n\n Hans Bloemen had a review article in Ann. Rev. Astr. Astrophys. a few \n years back in which he discusses this in more depth.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"What's the best way to archive GIF's?  I zip them and they only shrink 1%.  I\nhave most compression programs except stacker which I heard was good for GIF's.\n\n\nThanx\n-Brando","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nOf course,\n\n\tHow many government projects after Using PERT, GANT, C.P.M.s\nProcess flow diagrams,  Level 5 software projects....  actually\ncome in on schedule and under Cost.  I know the GAO determined\nthat 80% of all NASA projects  miss their budgets due to failing\nto adequately measure  engineering developement costs.   \n\nMe, I am allin favor of Government R&D.  I thought Bell Labs was one of the best \nto do research.   I don't think the government should pour money\ninto any one sector,  but should engage in projects which naturally\npush the state of the art.  \n\nTHings like  High tech  construction projects,  apollo  was worth it for the doing.  Running hte national labs.  The SSC is grossly overweight,  but\nis a reasonable project at a lower cost.  \n\nUnfortunately support for solo investigators is direly neglected.\n\nMaybe what they should do, is throw out much of the process and just tell\nnew PH'ds,  you get a 1 time grant of $50,000.00   If you produce, you\ncan  qualify for other grants.  If you don't  you never get in again.\n\nTHis way  young people get a shot at  reserach,  and older  stale \nscientists don't dominate the process.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nNot to inject a non-automotive note to this thread, but the BMW opposed\ntwin used in motorcycles for a *long* time is and always has been known as\na \"boxer\".  ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nFaith and intelligence tell me that when a druggie breaks into my house at\nnight with a knife to kill me for the $2 in my wallet, a .357 is considerably\nmore persuasive than having devotions with him.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Brian Kendig first states:\n\n\nI ask:\n\n\nBrian Kendig states:\n\n\nMake up your mind. \n\n\nAnd we do not end perfect either.  We are never perfect.  Can you name\none person, young or old, past or present, that you deem perfect? \nGood luck.\n\n\nThen you lie to yourself.  You do not know your shortcomings.  I have clearly\nshown one of your shortcomings, if not two.  That is, ignorance of the Bible\nand the arrogance you demonstrate butchering it without even knowing its \ncontents.\n\n\nBecause you have been too prideful to examine the record of him for yourself.\nAnd to demonstate your lack of support for your conclusion, I bet you do not\neven know what the word \"Christ\" means.  Or which prophet used \"Christ\" to \ndescribe the \"Son of Man\". \n\n\nYes.  I agree with that.  So we must learn first.  Read the Bible.  Come\nup with our own interpretation.   Evaluate what is being said\nand by whom.  Check the history books as well.  Compare someone else's\ninterpretation with your own.  Then make a judgment.  But I tell you the\ntruth, 99% of what is being said in the Bible needs interpretation as \nmuch as a coffee cup needs interpretation.\n\nAnd remember, the Bible isn't a Guru's Esoteric Guide to Metaphysics.  \nIt doesn't take a theologian to understand what is being said.    The \nBible is a bunch of testimonies from people like you and I addressed \nto people like you and I.  These guys wrote down what they saw and heard.  Is it \ntheir open diary--and they want to tell you something.  And because they\nwant you to know something, they make it very clear what they want you to\nknow.   They didn't encouch their ideas in esoteric rhetoric, but in simple\nstraight-forward language.\n\n\nYou have chosen the road that avoids the Bible.  You have chosen the\nroad that avoids a confrontation with the living God because that\nroad doesn't look appealing to you.  You rather build your own road.  One\nthat goes far away from that confrontation.   But be assured of this,\nyou will have to confront him one day willingly or unwillingly. \n\n\nI see what you mean.  I hear what your saying.  I am not degrading your\nlife.  But I have heard the same irrational excuses for years.  There is nothing \nnew in what you are saying.  And by your own words, you are \"spouting off\" \ncontradictions.   If contradictions give you meaning, then your life must\nbe sad.\n\n\nBingo.  For God so loved the world, he GAVE his only begotton to son\nso that whososever belives in him will have ever lasting life.   I look\nwhat God *did*.  He has given his Son, even to his death, so that I can have \nhope in his resurrection and know that life isn't for nothing, but has\nglorious purpose.\n\n\nBecause you turn your eyes away from testimony and history.  You choose to\nlie to yourself that he doesn't exist, for you ignore what has been said for \nthousands of years.  You sound exactly, almost verbatim, like the Lazarus of \nJesus's story starting in Luke 16:19.  And the conclusion of that story is a \nbleak one.  Lazarus wound up in hell.  The story ends like this:\n\n      \"For if Lazarus doesn't even listen to Moses and the Prophets,\n       he won't even believe if a man rose from the dead.\"\n\n\nArrogance at its best.   The fact is, you are not rational.  Several specific\ncases  have already been cited.   And again with this new statement, you show more irrationality with regards to heaven.  Jesus does tell you something of what to expect\nin heaven.  Jesus expects you to use your brain to believe in him.  Jesus does\nnot expect you to placate either.  Jesus wants you to willingly come to him, but not\nas his grovelling slave, but rather as his brother who will share in his\nglorious riches.  Why do you not pick up the Bible and read it for yourself.  \nYou maintain you have an open mind.  See whether you are lying to yourself for\nyourself.\n\n\n\nI do understand what you said.   But that's is not what I feel went amiss here.\n\nYou missed the point.  Living a \"good life\" has no eternal consequences.\nOnce they close the amusement park of life, to you that is the end.  To you, it \nis over.  To you, therefore, your time spent in the amusement park is meaningless. \nIt has no eternal consequences to you nor to anyone left on earth. \n\nBut then you contradict yourself.  From a previous post, you said doing evil things \nis bad.  To you, it shouldn't matter if you do evil things or good things.  It is\nall meaningless in the end anyway.  So go rob a bank.  Go tell someone\nyou dislike that he is a dirty rotten slime bag.  What's restraining you?\nLife after all, has no eternal consequences and accountability is irrelevant.\n\n\nAt which time, you are truly not the master of yourself.\n\n\nSo you (and your holy book) say.  By the same token, therefore, Santa\nClaus delivers toys every xmas.  Don't you see?  I have NO REASON to\nbelieve that what you say is true.  Please give me some reason that I\ncan't similarly apply to Santa Claus.\n\nYou have EVERY reason to believe that what Jesus says and the witnesses\nof Jesus say are true.  But you choose to be unreasonable and \"ignore\" the\nreasons.  By definition, \"ignorance\". \n\nSanta Claus is said to live at the North Pole and have a squad of elves\nand flying reindeer.   Ever see a flying reindeer?  Has anyone in human\nhistory seen a flying reindeer?  Has anyone seen a reindeer whose nose \nblinks red?    \n\nOn the other hand, are people born in Bethlehem?  Was Nebuchandezzar really\na king?  Was Daniel really one of his court officials?  Were David and Solomon\nreally kings of Israel and Judah?  Was their really a king called Jehoachin?\nDid Sennecherib really attack Jerusalem 600 years before Christ?  Did\nSennacherib really lose his battle--and badly?   Was there really a \nCaiaphas who interrogated Jesus?   Yes, yes, yes . . . history verifies\nit.  It is NONFICTION.\n\nDo you have a problem discerning truth from fiction?  Perhaps you\ncan't evaluate the context of Grimm's Fairy Tales apart from\nthat of the Scientific American.  I suppose you treat both with equal\ntruthfulness or equal falsity.  Is this what you are telling me?  Or\nis it that just do want to read the Scientific American and find out\nthat it's not a fairy tale?\n\n\nGet real.  Have you ever been to Zaire?  Do you have to go there\nto be  assured that there really is such a place?  Given your \nirrationality, I take it you have never used a map in your life.\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":":   Why does a lead acid battery discharge and become dead (totally unuseable)\n: when stored on a concrete floor?  \n\nIt could be that you stored it somewhere that it could become covered\nby moisture or damp air, which would short out the terminals.\n\nThe same thing happens to my car (Citroen 2CV) -- damp gets under the\nbonnet (US: \"hood\") and shorts the spark-plugs to earth so it won't start.\n\nThe solution (for the car) is to clean the plug leads and spray with\nWD-40 (moisture repellant).  If damp *is* the problem, then storing the \nbattery off the ground may help.  I'm not sure if spraying with WD-40\nwould be safe since it is very flammable (high percentage petroleum).\n\nJust a thought...\n\nChris\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"    .. blah blah .. talking about hackers.. you know ..\n\n\nWow!  A new proof for an NP-Complete problem, you guys in Eurpoe\nreally got your stuff together!\n\n\nBase Step:  [deleted too bad]\n\nInductive Step:\n\nInductive Hypothesis:\n\nFodder Step:\n\nLike my mother always said, if you can't say something nice...\n  or was that can't say something right?\n\n\n\t\t\t\t\t- kxh","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":": \n: Speaking of Paddock--what's he doing slagging Sandlak?  If Sandlak puts  \n: his mind to it, he can be a physical presence and waking him up might be a  \n: real mistake.\n\n\tIsn't Sandbag out with an injury now anyways?  Perhaps Paddock\nmeant to say that Momesso was the cheap short artist.  After all, that\nwould make more sense.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I think it very unlikely there are back doors in clipper, for two reasons:\n\n1. The government doesn't need them if it can get the key (and yes, I assume\nthat the \"official\" government obeys court orders, etc.--and that the design\nof the chip and its approval were \"official\");\n\n2. It would defeat the whole purpose of providing secure crypto for American\nbusiness that couldn't be read by our economic adversaries. If this were not\na legitimate and genuine purpose, and as many think, the NSA can read DES,\nwhy bother otherwise?\n\nRational responses preferred to conspiracy theories, thanks.\n\nDavid","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nWait a second, you're ignoring major facts here.\n\nThere was NO attempt to simply serve a warrant. The BATF had a\nno-knock warrant. The initial firefight began when the BATF threw\nconcussion grenades at the building. (BATF admits this!)\n\n\nLet's be realistic here, shall we?\n\nYou're a member of a rather paranoid religious organization. Someone\ncomes to your building, dressed in black suits, carrying firearms.\nThey throw a concussion grenade at the place, and try to break in.\nWhat, exactly, are you going to do?\n\nI would not allow anyone to enter my home without first identifying\nthemselves. If someone attacks my home by firing weapons or throwing\nexplosive, I think I'd be entirely justified in defending myself.\n\nRegardless of what I think of the BDs, and regardless of whether or\nnot they were guilty of firearms violations, this is NOT the way you\ntreat people in a supposedly free society.\n\n\t<MC>","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nsatire \\'sa-tir\\ n [MF or L; MF, fr. L _satura_, _satira_, fr. (lanx)\nsatura full plate, medley, fr. fem. of _satur_ sated; akin to L\n_satis_ enough - more at SAD](1509) 1: a literary work holding up\nhuman vices and follies to ridicule or scorn.  2: trenchent wit,\nirony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly.  syn see\nWIT.\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\tspl","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nActually in D&C 68:25-28 the parents are being held accountable for\ntheir own sins.  Specifically they are accountable for their failure\nto teach their children properly.  If I fail to teach my children\nthat stealing is wrong then I am responsible for their theft if they\nlater indulge in such behavior.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nHe is God.\n\n\nHe is God.\n\n\nGod granted you the gift of life whether you were sinner or saint.\n \n\nThe scientist creates the living creature to examine it, poke and prod it and\nlearn about its behaviour.  He will kill it if it becomes a threat.  For\nexample, let's say the scientist creates a Tyrannosaurus Rex and it breaks\nfree of its confines and starts devouring the population.  The scientist\nwould not hesitate in killing it.\n\nGod creates us to be His loving companions.  He knows whether we are true in \nour love for Him or not.  And He lets us know the consequences of rejecting Him.\nGod cannot abide by sin.  By rejecting God, a person becomes an enemy of God,\none that must be killed by Him.  Note:  I say that God and God alone is\nworthy to be Judge, Jury and Executioner.  We are not called to carry out\nsuch duties because we are not worthy.\n \n\nGod is God.  Who are we to question the Creator?  If you doubt God's doing\nin certain situations, do you claim to know a better solution?  Would you\nbe playing the role of God?","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nI think I found what your looking for on ftp.apple.com in the\n\/dts\/mac\/sys.soft\/video directory and is called \"Virtual Monitor Switch\n1.0\".  Hope this helps.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nIt's always a two-way street.  God gave her the grace to avoid sin,\nthus when she was visited by Gabriel, she gave her fiat, her total\nacceptance of God's will.  This fiat summarizes why Catholics regard \nher as the highest of all humans, that God chose her and that she\naccepted.  Knowing this in advance, we extrapolate that she was\nneither stained by nor subject to original sin.\n\nGod did create us all miraculously free to choose or not choose to sin.\n\"Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof and the grace of God to\ncommand it.\"  This amount of grace was precisely determined by God\nto be the amount required to do what God asked of her.  The grace\ngiven to each of us is also enough, but we do not always choose\nto accept it.  We also believe Jesus was fully human and never\nsinned.  \n\nGod could have created a much better person than myself, one who\nalways chose the right thing, yet he created me instead, despite\nmy flaws.  He proves he loves me as I am, continually drawing me\ntowards perfection.  For whatever purpose he has for me, he has\nconfidence that I will accomplish it.  If I ask God to repeat his\nmiraculous creation of the mother of his son, where will that leave me?","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"<\n<\n<>> I wonder if anybody know of a X-window-based postscript file\n<>> viewer that runs under SunOS (prefered), HPUX, or IBM AIX.\n<\n<>If you are running Sun OpenWindows, you can use \"pageview\".  This is an\n<>X Window PostScript previewer like \"ghostview\", but displays much nicer\n<\n<Yes, but it's broken on OW 2.0.  It does not handle multiple pages\n<well.  If you don't have the proper PostScript commands it will\n<draw the entire document on the same page instead of pausing after\n<each page.  I haven't tried OW 3.0 yet, though.\n\nOW 3.0 is the same.  But, the definition of broken is relative.  Pageview\nrequires DSC compliant PostScript files, in order to stop at page breaks.\nI don't consider that broken.  I say that any program that puts out a\nPostScript file that isn't DSC compliant is broken.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"being gay and Christianity are not compatible should \n\nI would absolutly love to have the time and energy to do so. The\nproblem is to be totally fair I would have to go throught this type of\nsearch on every issue I belive in.  I don't have the time, resources,\nor ability to do what you ask.  Maybe you should pray that God gives\nme the opportunity instead of simply discrediting me because I have\nnot been able to talk to every gay christian.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Hi Xperts!\n\nWhere can I get a good example in which XGCValues.plane_mask is used, or\nwho can explain how is it for and how to use it.\n\nAny hints welcome.\n\nThanks.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"The following cassette tapes are for sale.  $3.00 each... $2.50 each\nfor multiple orders, shipping included. Trades can be arranged.\nSome of the cases are somewhat worn, with a few cracks, but the tapes\nare all in good condition and sound fine.\n\nE-mail to the posting account. Thanks.\n\nThe Who\n\t-Who's Greatest Hits\nBachman Turner Overdrive\n\t-Best of BTO (so far)\nVan Halen\n\t-5150\n\t-OU812\nThe Doors\n\t-The Best of the Doors\nThe Cars\n\t-Door to Door\n\t-The Cars Greatest Hits\nPhil Collins\n\t-Face Value\n\t-No Jacket Required\nTears for Fears\n\t-Songs From the Big Chair","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nWell, I have a different story to recount.  I attempted to low-level format a\nWD 43MB disk about a year ago.  When I understood my error, I contacted WD.\nThey told me that I hadn't hurt the drive and that I should just run FDISK and\nFORMAT\/S on it.  It was fine.  Also, I understand that Western Digital's BBS\nmay have some low-level formatting routines specifically available for IDE\ndrives.  You probably need to talk to them and get the straight scoop.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\tThomas Jefferson is rolling over in his grave because the\nuniversity is making rules about sex.  \n\n\tDoesn't UVA also have a hate crimes rule on the books?\n\nAdam\n\nAdam Shostack \t\t\t\t       adam@das.harvard.edu","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nA circut court judge in Illinois once said \"When dealing with a government\nthat seeks continually new and more creative ways to spy on its' citizenry,\none cannot discourage the move to empower the common citizen with the means\nto parry this attack on personal privacy.\"\n\n(Unfortunately the comment was with regard to the banning of radar\ndetectors....)\n\nThe point remains.  More and more I see the government slowly washing\naway privacy.  Even unwittingly.  Do you think I will ever live in a\nsoceity that issues smart cards to citizens at birth?  Do you think I\nwill live in a soceity that insists I register my crypto keys so they\ncan keep track of what I'm saying?  Even if there is no evidence of my\nguilt?  Do you think I will ever live in a soceity that seeks to meddle\nin the affairs of its' citizenry without recourse of any kind?  I'm tired\nof it.  There is (IMHO) no compromise with an administration that seeks\nto implement these proposals under the guise of enhancing privacy.\n\nMore than the proposals themselves, I read the language of the press\nreleases, the obvious deception involved in presenting these pieces to\nthe public, and I am sickened.  I am revolted.  I am repulsed.\n\n90%, perhaps even 95% of this country could care less about the\nclipper chip, the wiretap bill, the smart card, because they are so\nentrapped in the rhetoric of the Clinton Administration.\n\nThis saddens and frightens me.\n\nI am a conserveative believe it or not.  A law and order conserveative.\nBut the move to a centralized authoratarian regime really scares me,\nmostly because I know you cant go far wrong underestimating the\nintelligence of the American people.  Tell them it's going to keep\nthem safe from drug dealers and terrorists, and they will let you\nput cameras in their home.\n\nEven in the wake of Waco, you find those who support the increasingly\ntotalatarian moves.\n\n\nTo be quite honest, the way things are going, I'd call it self defense.\n\n\n\nAnd I dont want mine growning up in the eyes of a security camera\n24 hours a day.\n\nuni\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nNot bad. We had a similar situation. Slowpitch softball, bases loaded,\nweakest hitter at the plate. He hits a line drive over the third\nbaseman's head that hooked and hooked and finally landed ten feet in\nfoul ground, almost hitting the fence down that side of the field.\nBut the umpire called fair ball! I was coaching third, yelling at evrybody \nto move up a base. The ump's position: \"it was still fair when it\npassed third base\". \nWhy the other team didn't immediately protest I'll never know; we\ncertainly weren't going to argue about it, since every body did manage\nto advance one base safely.\n\nThere was also the time when a batted ball ricocheted off my (runner\nfrom second base) leg, fielded by the SS, steps on second to force the\nrunner from first, and throw to first in time for what the umpire\ncalled a triple play; protest removed when we won the game anyway.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nNot to Sutter bash or anything since I idolized them as players....\nyou sure would think the Sutters would learn something about burning out their\nteams in the regular season.....just too much intensity during the regular \nseason.  I earlier posted a note about Brian and got to thinking after I read\nthis item.....gee both Sutters won their divisions and now both have lost \nhome ice advantage and are getting smoked in their opening series in the\nplayoffs.  Kind of makes you wonder.......\n\nBottom line....man it is great to be smoking the WartHawks!!!!!\nAgreed Jim.....this has been damn sweet, so far.  About the only thing\nthat comes close to this is shutting up all the Maple Laugh fans....Detroit\nhas completely kicked their asses so far.  But, I will stick with the\nBlues for providing the best playoff tonic so far.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\nOkay, I'm curious. Why? Are you expectin the Commissioner to fly in and\nstand on the pitchers mound to yell at the fans to sit down, or what?\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nBetter yet: act.\n\nJohn","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n:So we try to ensure that the process of deciding whether to introduce\n:third parties isn't random.  As Steve said above, there are examples\n:where third parties *are* less ignorant or corrupt than the two\n:primary parties; should this knowledge not be able to help?\n\nOf course it helps,  but only if the decision to involve third parties\nis the primary partis' to make.  A corrupt and ignorant third party\nisn't going to say,  \"we're corrupt and ignorant,  we'll stay out of this\".\nPointing out that they are corrupt and ignorant won't help,  they either\nwon't believe you or won't care.\n\n\n:>  It's impossible (or at least beyond my abilities) to formulate a rule\n:>that will always tell whether the involvement of a third party would be\n:>good or bad,  but there's one that seems better than any other I've ever\n:>heard suggested:  voluntary good,  mandatory bad.  That is,  a third\n:>party should involve itself in a transaction ONLY at the request of\n:>the primary participants.\n:So we *don't* formulate a rule that will always tell; we try to use\n:knowledge about other properties of situations.  To some of us, it\n:appears that trying always to apply \"voluntary good, mandatory bad\"\n:is not only less than optimal, it is in some circumstances seriously\n:damaging.  The interesting question is to characterize those\n:circumstances as best we can.\n\nLook,  somebody has to have the power to decide whether a third party\nwill regulate your transactions or not.  That somebody is going to\nbe either you or the third party.  You can argue until you are\nblue in the face that regulators shouldn't get involved (in fact,  people\nhave tried this),  they won't listen.    The fundamental question you\nhave to ask is,  whose decision is it whether or not to involve regulators,\nours or theirs?  After you've answered thed first question,  you can\ntry to move on to such questions as \"should regulators be involved\" and,  if\nso,  \"what regulations are appropriate?\"  Although with your answer to\nthe first question,  the second and third are taken out of your hands.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nGreat slogan!  I'm ready to sign up with a crypto-lobbying effort (though\nI wouldn't want to do it through an NRA offshoot).  Shall we also push\nfor the CRA  -- Cryptographic Rights Amendment ??","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I understand fire trucks had been at the site for several weeks but were\nsent home three or four days before the assault.  Can anyone confirm this?\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I'm new to this group and this may have been discussed already, in which case\nmy apologies, but...\n\nI have a '92 Integra with an auto box. According to the manual the car has\na lock up torque converter, or something similar.\n\nWhat is it, what does it do and how does it work?\n\n(Excuse my ignorance).\n\nDoes anybody know?\n\n--Parms.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Total Baseball, which also tries to evaluate a player's total offensive\nand defensive contributions, gives Barry Bonds a Total Player rating of\n9.0 for 1992. Only one other player since Ruth attained that mark: Cal\nRipken for his 1984 season. Rounding out the top five offensive players\nin the NL last season: Sheffield, 5.9; Sandberg, 5.8; Van Slyke, 5.3; and\nLarkin, 4.7.\n\nThe top 5 offensive players in the AL in 1992 were: E. Martinez, 4.8;\nVentura, 4.8; Anderson, 4.5; R. Henderson, 4.4; and Thomas, 4.4\n\nIn short, Total Baseball says Bonds enjoyed one of the best seasons\never in the game's history -- better than any year had by Mantle,\nMays, Williams, etc. (If you disagree, don't flame me; flame the\nwriters of Total Baseball.) Also, Martinez and Ventura are neck and\nneck, so given the shortcomings of any statistical analysis, which one\nhad the better year can be considered a toss-up. Thus, Total Baseball\nsupports your choices of Bonds and Ventura as the MVPs of 1992.\n\n\n\n--\n--------------------------\nPhil Brown                |\naka pb6755@csc.albany.edu |","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nNot necessarily. If the body had been denatured (cooked) or dehydrated due\nto the heat, a projectile needs only a minimal kinetic force to penetrate.\nIn fire aftermaths, bodies tend to fall apart or loose large chunks of\nmeat with little effort. Medical Examiners tend not to like cleaning up\nsuch scenes. \n\nAs such, if the body had been suitably cooked, a bullet comming from a\nmagazine explosion would more than likely have enough force to enter and\nthus it would be difficult to determine whether a bullet entered at the\ntime of death, or much later, unless you were trained to look for the\nevidence. Texas Rangers are not pathologists. \n\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Easy vs. Hard .....Easy on who?\n\nI had a rare very personal talk with my mother last year.  She said\nthat when she and my father were raising we four children, they\ndid not try to raise us in this world as strictly as they were raised\nin their Norwegian Lutheran community. They felt that we would be\nalienated from them and it would create problems.\n  In other words, my parent did the very tolerant, loving thing. They\nraised us without conflict, without what we saw as unreasonable\ndemands and were always accepting, no matter what the circumstances.\n  What happened was that I grew up believing in situation ethics and\nnever absolutes. I believed in a loving God, and my concept of God\nnever involved justice or punishment, nor was there any concept that\nI may someday be held responsible for the things that offended\nHim...sins that the \"world\" told me were OK.\n  My parents are very good, honest and moral people. They raised\nfour extremely honest children. Yet, before coming to a more\ncomplete knowledge of God (which includes the knowledge of justice\nand punishment)I committed what I now believe to be many, many\ngrave sins. I lived with a partner outside of marriage, was married\nand divorced ( only after physical abuse and no apparent hope for\nchange...but I shouldn't have married to person in the first place )\nand more....\n  My parents felt they were doing the loving,kind thing by allowing\nus to be who we were, by not imposing their standards on us, and by\naccepting unquestioningly everything we did without judgement or\ncounsel.\n  Today, it is absolutely appalling for me to look back on what they\n*did* accept without a word. It takes courages to dare to help souls\nbecause you must speak up and say what is unpopular and\ndifficult and what people do not want to hear. You must be able\nto say what is hard, and say it as Christ would, with love and\ncompassion. It involves risk....perhaps someone you love may not\nwant to hear and will stay away from you.\n  This life is \"but dust\". As long as the comfort of this life\nis our highest priority, we will fail God and fail those\nwith whom we come in contact.\n  I wonder how many who engage in sex outside of marriage, who\nsupport the \"right\" to abortion, who engage in homosexuality,\nor who commit any of the range of sins that are plentiful in\nthis time have ever heard from a quiet, thoughtful, loving\nfriend that these things are *wrong*. No one ever told me that\nwhat I was doing was wrong, and I saw multitudes around me\nliving the same way I was and they seemed like good, decent\npeople. (wouldn't kick dogs or beat the elderly or babies..)\nIt is more difficult for sinners without a genuine prayer\nlife to hear the Holy Spirit than it is to hear a loving friend.\nThink about this the next time the Holy Spirit tells you that\na friend is in error, but you don't want to \"cause trouble\".\nRighteous prayers is great power, but don't forget that we are\nwe are Christ's lips and hands on earth. Don't be afraid to\nsimply voice Truth when the situation calls for it. Say a\nfervent prayer and ask the Holy Spirit for Love and guidance.\nIn more ways than we may realize, we *are* our brother's\nkeeper.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"In <C601ED.CD6@cpqhou.se.hou.compaq.com>, thomasr@cpqhou.se.hou.compaq.com sez:\n\nThis is all terribly interesting, but it doesn't belong in misc.legal.\nTake it elsewhere, please.\n\n-- \n        Have you hugged your common nucleus of operative fact today?","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n[writing to someone else]\n\n\nCan we get back to using the terms \"strong Atheist\" and \"weak Atheist\"\nrather than this \"hard Atheist\" and \"soft Atheist\".  I can imagine \nfuture discussions with Newbies where there is confusion because of the\nmultiplication of descriptions.\n\n[rest deleted]\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"...\n\n\tOh they'll get it back, with exposed film. :(\n\n\tShortly after the Rodney King episode, a woman here in Dayton used a\ncamcorder to tape the police arresting several youths.\n\n\tUpon noticing her, the police arrested her (for jaywalking!) and\n\"accidently\" erased the tape while they had it.\n\n\tYep, they'll get their film back allright....","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\tQuit keeping us in suspense:  who sells this remarkable bag?\n\nLater,","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":": In article <1993Apr29.121501@is.morgan.com>, jlieb@is.morgan.com (Jerry Liebelson) writes...\n: > I want to know what weightlessness actually FEELS like. For example, is\n: >there a constant sensation of falling? \n\nRon Baalke (baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov) replied:\n: Yes, weightlessness does feel like falling.  It may feel strange at first,\n: but the body does adjust.  The feeling is not too different from that\n: of sky diving.\n\nI'm no astronaut, but I've flown in the KC-135 several times.  I'll\ntell you about my first flight.\n\nAt the on-set of weightlessness, my shoulders lifted and my spine\nstraightened.  I felt a momentary panic, and my hands tried to grab\nonto something (like the strap keeping me firmly against the floor)\nto prevent me from falling; I remember conciously over-ruling my\ninvoluntary motions.  My ears felt (not heard) a rush and I could\nfeel fluid moving in my head (like when you get up from bed while\nyou have a cold).\n\nAt that point, I ceased to concentrate on my physiological response,\nsince I had some science to do.  I was busy keeping my experiment\ngoing and keeping track of all the parts during the \"return\" of\ngravity and subsequent 1.8-G pull-out, so I didn't really pay\nattention to physiology at that time.\n\nAfter about 5 parabolas, I discovered that I was performing one\nof the tricks I've discovered to keep myself from getting motion\nsickness; I was keeping my head very still and moving very slowly\n-- all except my hands and arms, which needed to be in rapid,\nconcious motion for my experiment.  During the pull-out to\nparabola 5, my queasiness finally started to get to me, and I\nhad to use one of those air-sickness bags.  I was basically\nuseless for the rest of that flight, so I went to the seats in\nthe back of the plane while my partner (whom I drafted for just\nthis purpose) kept working on the experiment while I was ill.\n(He was a vetran Vomit Comet rider, one of those anomalous\npeople who don't get sick on the thing.)\n\nI didn't think of it as a \"constant sensation of falling\" so\nmuch as like swimming in air.  It's very close to the sensations\nI feel when I'm scuba diving and I turn my head down and fins up.\n\nJerry:\n: >And what is the motion sickness\n: >that some astronauts occasionally experience? \n\nRon:\n: It is the body's reaction to a strange environment.  It appears to be\n: induced partly to physical discomfort and part to mental distress.\n: Some people are more prone to it than others, like some people are more\n: prone to get sick on a roller coaster ride than others.  The mental\n: part is usually induced by a lack of clear indication of which way is\n: up or down, ie: the Shuttle is normally oriented with its cargo bay\n: pointed towards Earth, so the Earth (or ground) is \"above\" the head of\n: the astronauts.  About 50% of the astronauts experience some form of\n: motion sickness, and NASA has done numerous tests in space to try to\n: see how to keep the number of occurances down.\n\nI'm a volunteer in JSC's Space Biomedical Laboratory where they do,\namong other things, some of the tests Ron mentions.  I was in one\ncalled the Pre-flight Adaptation Trainer, which consisted of a chair on\na several-degree-of-freedom motion base with moving geometric visual\naids.  The goal was to measure the victim's^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H subject's\nresponses and subjective physiological descriptions and see if repeated\nexposure to this environment could reduce future motion sickness\nsymptoms.\n\nJerry --\n\nI don't know of any former or active-duty astronauts who personally\nread this group.  I know that Bruce McCandless's office had been\nwaiting anxiously for the Space Station Redesign option I posted\nlast week, but I don't think Bruce reads the group himself.\n\n-- Ken Jenks, NASA\/JSC\/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office\n      kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov  (713) 483-4368","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":": \n\n[ a whole lot of completely ignorant stuff about Pitt. ]\n\nGive this guy a drug test, and some Ridalin whale you are at it.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I've never heard of the Bob Dylan Baseball Abstract, but I am curious.\nCould someone clue me in?\n\n--\n--------------------------\nPhil Brown                |\naka pb6755@csc.albany.edu |","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n     I have recently used the 4066 to switch a bipolar signal.  I simply\nran the 4066 off a bipolar supply, +\/- 8V in this case.   As long as your\nanalog input signal stays between the supply rails, the 4066 will work fine.\nOf course, your control (logic) input must use -8V as the logic LOW and\n+8V as the logic HIGH reference, so that either (1) all your driving logic\nmust be 4000 CMOS with the same bipolar supply or (2) you must provide\nsome kind of voltage level shifting circuit between the 4066 and the\ncontrol logic.  In my case, I was able to use the bipolar supply all the\nway.\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I've been playing with a program called PICLAB to modify some .gif files. The\nproblem is it keeps displaying only 50% of the image. Starting from the top, it\ndisplays20%, leaves 20% blank, then down another 20% etc. ANyone know what I'm\ndoing wrong, or is there another piece of software I should use instead?","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"After the initial gun battle was over, they had 50 days to come out\npeacefully. They had their high priced lawyer, and judging by the\nposts here they had some public support. Can anyone come up\nwith a rational explanation why the didn't come out (even after\nthey negotiated coming out after the radio sermon) that doesn't\ninclude the Davidians wanting to commit suicide\/murder\/general mayhem?","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Hey folks,\n\nSaw the Giants play ball at the 'Stick Saturday, April 17.  It was the game\nwhere Pendelton broke up the scoreless tie in the ninth with a two-out,\ntwo-run homer to right to win it.  (It wasn't the game where the fans \nthrew the give-away \"fotoballs\" onto the field in response to the homer --\ntoo bad, huh?)\n\nWell, the 'Stick is still cold.  The Saturday game ended at 5:45pm, and it\nwas cold then.  I can't imagine night games in April at the 'Stick.  The\nwind kicked up a little, too, and I got this idea.\n\nAt most games, there's a pile of hot dog wrappers and cups and trash on\nthe field a lot of the time.  I propose a Kid's Clean-up Corps composed\nmainly of 10-12 year old kids who would love nothing better than to run\nout on the field in the fifth inning (when the guy in the Toro smooths\nthe infield) and grab the trash.\n\nIt might not be glamorous, but at that age I probably would have given\nanything to be on the field with the ballplayers.  Everybody wins here!\n\nWhaddaya think?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"You just don't get it, do you?\n\n\nI think the discussion is more like this...\n\nMe: [ happily picking daisies by the side of the road ]\nBC: [ dancing on the double yellow broken line ]\n    \"Come on out and play on the highway!\"\nMe: \"Why?\"\nBC: \"The highway was put here for people to be on.  We must work towards\n     fulfilling its purpose.\"\nMe: \"But --\"\nBC: \"Look, the highway has been here for several generations.  Look, I\n     have a story about how it was actually created by a divine being!\n     And several people actually saw Elvis bless it!\"\nMe: \"But --\"\nBC: \"Look, are you going to come out here, or not?\"\nMe: \"But --\"\nBC: \"You probably think that picking daisies is fun.  Well, you're wrong.\"\nMe: \"Where in blazes did you get this silly idea that you're supposed to\n     be playing on the highway?  You'll get yourself killed!\"\nBC: \"Better to be killed on the highway than to live an empty life off\n     of it.  Besides, you're just asking pointless questions.  You know\n     you really want to be playing on the highway too; you're just\n     denying it.\"\nMe: \"If you want to get run over, then fine, but I'd much rather enjoy\n     the daisies, if you please.\"\nBC: \"Why do you shun me like this?  The Creator of the Highway will flatten\n     you with a steamroller if you don't see the light and come join me!\"\nMe: \"Well, if he's gonna be THAT way about it, maybe I want to get as\n     far from the highway as I can...\"\nBC: [ incoherent but quite familiar righteous sputtering ]\n\nBrian C., don't you see?  I do not believe that your god is:\n\n\t(a) real, or even\n\n\t(b) beneficial.\n\nIn fact, I believe your religion is imaginary and, carried to\nextremes, harmful.  I would like to help you see its shortcomings, and\nperhaps someday finally become strong enough to see it for what it is:\nan elaborate lie, kept alive by the elite priesthood to keep the\nmasses properly submissive to their influences.\n\nPlease offer me an argument that's more convincing than \"you just\ndon't believe 'cos you don't want to.\"  Everything you've said so far\ncould apply equally to any religion -- why do you believe yours is the\nreal one?\n\n(Note that saying \"it's the only one that promises eternal life\" or\nsomething like that isn't an answer to my question, unless you show\nthat (a) no other religion promises eternal life and (b) it is\nunarguably true that eternal life must be a reality.)\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nI would stongly recommend a factory service manual, and if you are not\nan experienced machanic then get a chiltons or haynes (sp?) ALSO.\nMake sure the bike has cooled at least 6 hours since being run.\nRead the books and if you have more questions you could mail me.\nAlso, be very careful when tightening valve cover bolts.  They take\nvery little torque and breaking one is disaster.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Dear Netters:\n\n\nI am looking for C source code to test if a 3D point lies within a\n\nconcave polyhadra. I have read a few articles about this and know\n\nthat two solutions exist: parity counting and angle sumation. Both\n\n\nideas are pretty simple but coding is not. So I wonder if there exists\n\npublic domain source code for this.\n\n    Another 'rough' solition (don't care special cases) is ray-casting\n\nwhich is reported to be more or less independent of number of faces\n\nconsisting the polyhedra if a special space indexing is used\n(M. Tamminen, et. al., 1984. \"Ray-casting and block model conversion\nusing a spatial index\". Computer-Aided-Designs. 4, 1984, 60-65).\nBut the prerequirement is that all the facets of polyhedra have their\nnormal pointing outside of polyhedra. How this could be done in practice ?\nI have a set of trangles consisting the polyhedra. How could I ensure their\nnormals pointing outside the polyhedra ? The paper mentioned above assumed\nthis is already the case.\n\n\n   I have also read some standard computer graphics textbook about hidden\nline removal. It says \"if we make the rule that the normal of a facet pointing\n\ntoward viewer standing far away from the polyhedra...\". Again how to make\nsure ?\n\n\n   Any pointers are welcome ?\n\n\n   Yaohong Jiang\n   Queen's University\n   Kingston, Ont.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nI'm glad Grant Fuhr will never be as over-confident after two wins\nas you are...it takes four wins to defeat an opponent...each tougher\nto obtain than the previous one.  Buffalo is off to a good start...\nFuhr is proving the Fuhr-bashers wrong, but Boston is an awfully\ngood team.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"...\n\n\nDoes it matter that the study (yes, singular) that showed LSD causing\nbirth defects also holds true for aspirin?  Does it matter that\nthis study is flat-out wrong, and LSD does not give you a greater\nrisk of having children with birth defects?\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I am asked to design a video-aid system for teacher to show their students\nhow to work their way round in Windows.\n\nI have seen people using video projector, TV set and large size monitor as\nthrir display for presentations. I am told that there are three ways to\nconnect to a video projector: composite, Y\/C & RGB.\n\nCan anyone explain to me the different between the three and the likely cost\nfor each of them?\n\nI would also like to know if there are TELNET or KERMIT for Windows.\n\nPlease reply to me via E-amil as well as bulletin. My internet account is\nu129008@sparc20.ncu.edu.tw","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"I recently saw a message here (posted by Bob Silverman, I think) which \nreferred to a \"birthday\" attack on a cryptosystem. I'm looking for \nreferences on, and explanations of, this type of attack.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
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{"text":"\n\nI thought your nickname was \"UnEnlightened\"\n-- \nMaddi Hausmann                       madhaus@netcom.com\nCentigram Communications Corp        San Jose California  408\/428-3553","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"stem\n  I\n\n\nI've had the same experience actually. I love the Mac interface and any number\nof the features, but am sorely dissapointed with the speed. I use macs daily\nand am a Moc consultant for OSU Statistics department; I'm familiar with almost\nevery model out there, and my experience is that both the Amiga and the Atari\nST simply \"blow the Mac out of the water\" in terms of performance. At this time\nI would in general say that the other advantages of the Mac outweigh the\nadvantages of the Amiga or the ST (and Falcon), but I really wish Apple would\nget their heads together on speed... :-((((( They could take a real lesson in\nmuli-tasking from the Amiga OS or the MultiTOS in the Atari Falcons too :-(((\n\n > I'm still happy with my ci, but I don't understand why the performance is\n\nI just hope that someone comes out with a machine that does *everything* well\nsomeday. If I had my choice, I would go with Mac in most aspects, but add the\nspeed and superior Multi-Tasking of the other platforms.\n\nAs for the original topic; Trying to compare *just the chip* in a machine seems\nalmost worthless. A fast 386 with a wiz-bang graphics accelerator will be\nfaster in productivity for many applications than a even a stock Quadra. Add a\ngraphics accelerator to a 486 and you *really fly*. Of course, add one the the\nQuadra and then you're blowing the 486 away... etc...\n\n\nI think mine was only worth $0.01.......\n---------------------------------------------------------------------->","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nThis is ridiculous, and your doctor sounds like a nut, if what is\nreported here is what the doctor actually said.  If your wife's\npancreas stops producing insulin and therefore becomes diabetic, she'll\nneed insulin replacement.  That doesn't mean she's \"dependent\" on\ninsulin, anymore than she was beforehand--if her body doesn't make\nenough, she'll have to get it elsewhere.  Oral thyroid replacement\nhormone therapy is the cornerstone of treatment for hypothyroidism, and\nit's really the only effective therapy available anyway.  Plus, it's\ncheap.  Taking thyroid hormone when it isn't needed does cause your\nthyroid gland to reduce its own production of the hormone, but that's a\n_feature_, not a _bug_, and it's irrelevant in any case in the face of\nhypothyroidism, because her problem that her gland isn't producing\nenough.  There isn't a clinical phenomenon of \"thyroid insufficiency\"\ncaused by a sudden discontinuation of exogenous thyroid hormone\nanalogous to adrenal insufficiency caused by the sudden cessation of\nprolonged administration of corticosteroids, so there should be no\nworry about inappropriately \"suppressing\" the thyroid gland.\n\n\nHomeopathy is nonsense.  Tell her to stop wasting her money, health and time,\nand get her to a legitimate doctor who will be in a position to make\na proper diagnosis and recommend the right therapy.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\n\nMy roommate, the atheist, says \"to anyone out there who might be \nlistening.\"\n ","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Wasn't the shareware fee a \"suggestion\" by John?\nIs so then it's up to the individual to make the choice whether or not to\nhonour it and part with money.  Personally if I was in his position I would\ndo exactly the same thing, John has obviously put in lot of time and effort\ninto xv and why shouldn't he receive some money for it.\n\nJust my pennies worth\n\n(Keep up the good work John)\n\n\n\tJulian\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I just read an article in another group that mentions this. I have\nnever heard of the VCPI memory standard. Can someone explain what \nthis is??? Thanks\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"BIGOTRY\"\n\nBiden spoke well.  Then there was John Major, the architect of the\nbetrayal of Bosnian Muslims to genocide.  \n\nHe basically has given yet another green light to HVO Ustashe and\nMladic-Chetnik serial killers, rapists, and plunderers to continue their\ngenocide against Bosnian Muslims.\n\nBut Major met with Mr. Rushdie and said it was \"unacceptable\" that Iran\nshould have a death decree on him.  While I disagree personally with\nFetwas against hack writers like Rushdie (it only helps them sell more\nbooks), I find it interesting that Mr. Major finds the genocide of two\nmillion Muslims in Bosnia acceptable, but a threat against one single\npopular British writer \"unacceptable.\"","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nI just exchange ideas over the USENET with other people. I never \nattacked you as to put you in the need to defend yourself against me.\nI am not a violent person, and I do not see how can anyone be threatened\nby the opinions and ideas of others as expressed on USENET.\nI asked you to continue on email because I am not interested on a\nflamefest, where you change my words or just make up some of your own\nand present them as mine.\nSo, do not worry. You do not need to defend yourself because I am not\nattacking you.\n\n\nThis is a good advice for yourself.\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"I think there are some generally accepted criteria according to which\none can evaluate whether certain policies or practices constitute\nracial discrimination. These criteria are to be found for example in the\n1.  International Convention for Abolition of All Forms of Racial\n    Discrimination (ratified by most countries)\n2.   The International Covenant of Political and Civil Rights\n3.   The Human Rights Charter\n4.   The European Convention of Human Rights\n\nIf one reads carefully how racial discrimination is defined in these\nlegally binding instruments, and does not resort to sophistry, it is\nobvious that the State of Israel is guilty of racial discrimination.\n\n\nThe people suffering the most extreme form of racial discriminatnion\nby the Zionist regime are the Palestinian refugees, some of whom live\nunder Israeli military control and others who live in the diaspora.\n\nThey are not entitled to return to their homeland for the sole\nreason that they are not Jews. International law does not include any\nprovisions which permits such denial of rights, under any circumstance.\nIsrael's actions of denial are totally illegal and immoral. By allowing\nthe return of the refugees and permitting them to settle in Tel in any area  of\nthe State of Israel, the State would finally gain its legitimaty under\ninternational law and could be justified in asking to be recognized. It\nwould facilitate the peaceful integration of Israel into the Middle-east\nand constitute the best guarantee for permanent Jewish presence -\nin the area. Any attempt to create a separation, formal and human, between the\nIsraeli Jewish and Palestinian Arab communities, is fraught with\ngenociadal implications. I hope that U.S. Jews, who sincerely wish that\npeace prevail in Israel\/Palestine, will finally realize this fact.\n\nElias Davidsson\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":": What if clipper is fairly secure but leaves a distinct clipper signature...\n: that is, what if it's not too difficult to tell that a msg. was clipper\n: encrypted, even if you can't tell the contents?  In that case, anyone \n: who is trying to hide behind anther encryption scheme will stand out\n: from all of the other traffic and raise a red flag to the NSA, etc.\n\nI think the obvious answer (which may have been posted, but I haven't\nseen it) is to encrypt your data with some other scheme, then run it\nthrough clipper.  The only way the police will be able to detect the\nother encryption is through a wiretap, so even if they do notice with\nan illegal wiretap, I have a hard time seeing a judge issuing a\nwarrant for a search to \"confiscate\" the illegal scheme (assuming that\nat one day, it comes to this; a worse case) based on an illegal\nwiretap.  Then again, maybe I am an idealist.  :>\n\n: \t------------    --------    ----------------------\n: \tBen Liberman    INTERNET    ben@genesis.MCS.COM\n: \t                            ben@tai.chi.il.us\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"so all us hockey\/automobile racing fans all know exactly where we stand\n\tESPN delays the martinsville race by a day for the NFL draft\n\tESPN shows baseball instead of the overtime of a NHL playoff game\n\n\tgimme a break, guys\n\n=>  >>Does anyone know why this race is tape delay? Especially until Monday???\n=>  >Is this the weekend for the NFL draft?\n=>  >If so, postponing the race for a day is\n=>  >a real slap in the face for racing fans.\n=>  I'm afraid you're right (as usual). As I recall they've been doing this\n=>  ever since they started covering the draft live. I wish they could work\n=>  out some kind of a deal with somebody else such as TNN to get the race\n=>  on live, but I guess ESPN isn't much into sharing. It also clarifies\n=>  where auto racing stands on their priority list (as if we didn't already\n=>  know ;-)\n-- ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Thanks to the people who have answered here and in email to my \nquestion about which countries engage in space surveillance. \nUnfortunately, I apparently didn't make the meaning of the message \nclear, since most replies have addressed satellite reconnaissance, \nrather than space surveillance \n\n     What I meant was _not_ which countries use satellites to look at \nthe Earth (satellite reconnaissance) , but _was_ which countries have \nprograms to detect and track (i.e., determine the orbital elements of) \nsatellites as they pass overhead (space surveillance). \n\n    The US uses missile-defense radars, supplemented by a fascinating \nquasi-radar operated by the Navy, to do this for satellites in LEO, and \nelectrooptical systems for objects at altitudes above 5,000 km or so. \nThe FEE, I understand, does much the same thing. \n\n    Amateur satellite observers use eyeballs, binoculars, stopwatches \nand PCs for objects out to around 1500 km, enabling them to keep track \nof satellites for which, ah, official element sets aren't available. \nSee the fascinating books by Desmond King-Hele for details, as well as \nthe files in the molczan directory on kilroy.jpl.nasa.gov.  The \nmaterial posted in my previous message suggests that Japan engages in \noptical and radar space surveillance to a modest degree, and it may be \nthat other countries do also. \n\n    Which was the question I meant to ask: who are they, how do they do \nit, and why do they do it?\n\n\nAllen Thomson                     SAIC                        McLean, VA","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nDoesn't matter if we assume they are obeying the law, since they won't have\nhad a court order to tap calls prior to the date of the court order, and\nthus won't have them available.\n\nIf they aren't obeying the law, we are in an entirely different discussion,\nin which this is the least of one's worries.\n\nDavid","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nPerhaps I should quit eating mushrooms, soya beans, and brie cheese\nwhich all have MSG in them.  It occurs naturally.\n\nI'm not going to quit eating something that I like just because\nit *might* cause me trouble later or causes problems in *some*\npeople.  I would much rather avoid stress by not worrying over\nwhat goes in my mouth and not spending every day reading conflicting\nreports of what is good\/bad for you.\n\nI may eat some things in quantities that may not be good for me.\nFine.  I've made my decision and I don't think it's appropriate\nfor anyone to try to 'convert' me.  \"It's for your own good\" are\nthe most obnoxious and harmful words, IMO, in the English (or\nany other) language.\n\n\nI think it is.  I get tired of people saying 'don't eat X because\nit's BAD!'  Well, X may not be bad for everyone.  And even if\nit is, so what?  Give people all the information but don't ram\nyour decisions down their throats.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"reasonable  \n\nThat's probably true but it's the closest to it that you're going to get.  \nThe actual dealer cost depends on a lot of things and even the dealer  \nprobably doesn't know exactly what it will be until all the factory   \nkick-backs, incentives, etc. are paid and that often depends on his volume  \nat the end of the month\/quarter\/whatever. It might be a funny munber but  \nit's all you have to start with, except the sticker, and anyone who pays  \nsticker price is really being ripped off.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Our 20-month son has started falling sick quite often every since he\nstarted going to day care.  He was at home for the first year and he did\nnot fall sick even once.  Now it seems like he has some sort of cold or\nflu pretty much once a month.  Most of the time the cold leads to an ear\ninfection as well, with the result that he ends up being on antibiotics\n3 weeks out of 4.  I know kids in day care fall sick more often, but we\nare beginning to wonder how often \"more often\" really is, whether our\nson is more susceptible or has lower immunity than average, what the\nlonger-term effects of constantly being sick and taking antibiotics are,\nand what we can do to build up his resistance.  He really enjoys his day\ncare and we think it's great too, but we are beginning to wonder whether\nwe should think about getting a nanny.\n\nAre there any studies that can help answer some of these questions?\n\n-- How often do kids in their first, second and third years fall sick?\nHow often do they get colds, flus, ear infections?  Is there any data on\nhome care vs. day care?\n\n-- Does being sick \"build immunity\" (leading to less illness later),\ndoes it make kids \"weaker\" (leading to more illness later), or does it\nnot have any long term effect?\n\n-- Does taking antibiotics on a regular basis have any negative long\nterm effects?\n\n-- How does one tell if a child is more susceptible to illness than\nnormal, and what does one do about it?\n\n-- Is there any way to build immunity and resistance?\n\nAny data, information or advice relating to this would be much\nappreciated.  Thanks a lot.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"X-Disclaimer: All views are my own unless expicitly stated otherwise.\n\n\n\n\nThat are the authorisation files for the server.\nDepending on what type of key your X supports they contain magic cookies,\nDES based authentication or SUN DES authentication.\n\nThe place is defined with the DisplayManager.authDir \nOther things like the file name can be changed as well see XDM manual pages.\n\n\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\t[stuff about Ron Gant incident deleted] \n\n\tI agree that Hirschbeck was just doing what he was instructed to do\nand also that Gant should have listened to him.  However, what is with this\npolicy of trying to speed up the games.  You are the first person \n( non-mediot ) I have seen endorse this policy.  I have no problem with the\nlength of games at all and am tired of the ESPN crowd ( and other announcers )\nbitching about it.  I have never been in a ballpark filled with people looking\nat their watches and shouting \"Hurry up!\"  If I cough up big bucks for a \nticket, I don't mind a game that last more than 2:10.  I really don't\nunderstand it.  \n\n\tGames are longer now for several reasons:  more pitching changes,\nmore basestealing ( and throws to first ), etc...I think a very small factor\nis the increased time it takes Jose Canseco\/ Deion Sanders\/ [insert fancy\nshowboat ballplayer here] to arrange their jewelry prior to stepping in the\nbatter's box.  My impression is that sportcasters and writers have made this\nan issue because they like shorter games - they get to head back to hotel\nbar, eat steaks, get drunk, tell stupid jokes with their pals and chase\nstewardesses around the bar.  Sure they want the game over with.  Print \njournalists have a slightly more legitimate reason for wanting faster games:\nthey have deadlines.  The ESPN guys on baseball tonight drive me crazy - they\nconstantly harp on this - primarily because they often have to work late \nwhen the game goes longer than 2:30.\n\n\tMaybe I am just a ne'er-do-well with nothing better to do, but I \nwould like to hear reasons why the longer games upset you.\n\n\tAs a parenthetical note, it seems the league is in any case fighting\na losing battle this year.  The increased offense thus far will certainly \nspoil any hopes of getting the games over with more quickly.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n   > I believe it is illegal to send any cryptographic code out of the\n   > country without an export license. (Others will correct me if\n   > this is inaccurate.)\n\n   Glad to!  You are correct, it is illegal to send cryptographic\ncode (and lots of other things) out of the country without a license.\nHOWEVER, every US citizen has a general export license, allowing\nexport of lots of things, including constitutionally protected speech.\nThis has the effect that it is legal for US citizens to export some\nthings which it is illegal for a US corporation to export without\nfirst obtaining a license.\n\n   > Dunno if you'd get one for the particular code you have; the only\n   > way to find out is to apply for a license.\n\n   Nope, talk to a good lawyer in the area of export law.  But, in\ngeneral, the government has to have a very good national security case\nto try prevent the export of anything you personally might wish to\npublish.  (Yes, I worded that the way I did intentionally.  It is a\nlot easier for the government to TRY to prevent the export of\ninformation than to charge someone with a crime after the fact.\nEspionage is probably the only exception.)\n\n   > Note that you need to distinguish between what is legal to send\n   > to Canada if YOU have such a license, and what is legal to send\n   > if you don't.\n\n    If you are a US citizen, you have a general license.  (I am not a\nlawyer, so take some of this with a grain of salt.  However, I have\nalso had to swim through both ITAR and export regs in a few cases.)\n\n--\n\n\t\t\t\t\tRobert I. Eachus","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nOne of the most popular methods of course is the password check where they ask\nyou for a word from page x, line y, and word z, but this is pitifully simple to\nremove unless you throw some checksums into the main part of your program, and\nsome self-rewriting code to confuse some people.  Also, make sure that your\nprogram can not be run out a debugger.\n\nAnother method of course is to not even make bad sectors on the original disk,\njust write a certain key to a certain unallocated sector.   To help you here,\nyou also must do the code protection schemes mentioned in the first paragraph.\nMake sure you also fill the rest of the unallocated parts of the disk with\ngarbage as well, or they (wanna be crackers) can just look for the junk in\nsome random sector.\n\nLike you mentioned, there are the laser holed disks and hardware keys, but they\nare both expensive and a pain in the butt for the end-user, which you is the\nopposite of what you want.\n\nAnother configuration that can be used is to save the configuration of the\nmachine that it is being installed to in the most undecipherable format you can\nthink of.  If the program does not find that this is the same system, it\nrequests being installed by the original disk again.  The original disk should\nbe encrypted, compacted, have many sectors that should be checked, and anything\nelse you can think of to make sure that the original cannot be copied.  Once\nagain, you MUST put code-encryption, self-rewriting code, and multiple CRC\nchecks in the program to make sure that it does not get changed.  Among other\nthings, this also protects your program from virii.  If the program detects a\nchange in its code, tell the user that a virus has been detected in the\nprogram.  Tell them the program is \"VIRUS SECURE\", and remember, you have\nhelped the world kill some pirating and kill some viruses.  Feel good.\n\nI hope that I have helped.  Have fun.  Knock some cracking out (well, you can't\ndo it, everything that can be written can be cracked, but you'll piss'em off in\nthe process!). Goodbye.\n\nWhat is the program that will be sold?\n--\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nGeorge Gruschow                                Death do you gronk.\nag625@yfn.ysu.edu                              ggruscho@nyx.cs.du.edu","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":" \n \nA world creator god does, the moment it creates the world. And to sayi\nthat you can't recall *anyone* is even below your usual standard of\na\"arguing\".\n \nMy argument is based on quite usual theistic assumptions, namely god\nis perfect, god is all-knowing god sets the rules. The rules don't\nwork for whatever reason. Because of its omniscience, the god has\nknown it. In advance.\n \n(Deletion)\n \nIt is not a question of grammar, it is a question of modelling. Has been\ndiscussed in the wonderful time when you were not posting to this group.\nWhen A is contradictorily defined A does not point to an instance in\nreality. Unless there is more information in the definition of A that\nallows me to find it somehow. However, when the contradictory attribute\nis said to be essential, ie has not got that attribute => not the A I\nam looking for, I can conclude that A does not exist.\n \n \n \nThat's quite like: I predict coins falling\n   Predicted            Happened\n1.   Heads                 Tails\n2.   Tails                 Tails\n3.   Heads                 Tails\n4.   Heads                 Tails\n \nI take 2. and dismiss the rest because of the unnecessary complexity\nthe other evidence causes.\n ","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nHindsight's 20-20. Nobody expected Kisio to have his 2nd best career year.\n\n\nI didn't mean to imply that Gund's offer wasn't enough.  Gund's offer\nwas the right $, but too late in the season.  $2M offered in November\nlets Sather buy a replacement for Murphy *this* season and make the\nplayoffs *this* year. $2M in March doesn't help Sather with his\nimmediate objectives, doesn't help with long term objectives (only a\nprospect or draft pick does, and no way should the Sharks do that).\nHowever, getting back to what-if games, had Kisio been traded to\nChicago last year, then the Sharks go 0 for October, and maybe Gund\npanicks sooner in November. And here's another what-if twist: Chicago\nwould have had Kisio this season; they *never* go after Murphy in the\nfirst place because Kelly is having his *best* season (bigger guys in\nChicago). So Gund has no competition. So Ferriera, Sather, and Keenan\nall look like geniuses.\n\nA broken fax machine, and Ferriera, Keenan, and maybe Kingston\n(and maybe even Green) lose their jobs. Kind of makes you\nshiver doesn't it. :-)\n\nBottomline, for every black scenario any of you can concoct for\nKisio leaving, I can concoct an equally bright one.\n\n\nAre you serious?\n\t- Let Ferierra go,\n\t- fire Kingston (these last two basically mean that\n\t\tSharks are starting over again in terms of the\n\t\ttimetable to capture the Cup. As I've stated\n\t\tfrequently: 5 out 6 expansion teams had the same GM\n\t\tfrom inception through Cup season)\n\n\t- broadcast more home games than away games\n\t- broadcast very few road Pacific and Mountain time games\n\t- jack up my ticket prices from $27 to $38 in two years (not that I'm\n\t\tgoing to pay 120 bucks for 3 seats. I'll probably next to the\n\t\tvirtual 107 folks)\n\n\t- not tell me my priority #\n\t- not let me sell my priority #\n\t- in order for me to get the free jacket, force me to order my tickets\n\t\tfor next season before I get to select my section\n\n\t- not let me park at the new arena after paying for their\n\t\tprivileged parking lot (which was sometimes full when\n\t\tI got there) for 2 straight years.\n\nI've been a loyal ticket holder, since day 1 (literally) in spring of\n'90 when the team was announced.  and I'm not getting that loyalty\nreturned. Wirtz treats his fans far better by comparison. And\nPocklington with his cheap tix is the best owner of all.\n\n\nI know one isn't suppose to make negative comments on signatures, but\nwhat did us Oiler fans do to you to deserve the \"Stay in Edmonton\"\npart? I'd never wish the Kings to leave metro-LA; it's too much fun\nwatching the Shark's beat them.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nCorrection, and some more info: The Kaliningrad that Mr. Larrison\nwrites about is indeed near Moscow. I've read that it may also be known by\nthe name Podlipk, and is a short distance from Zvezdny Gorodok (Star \nCity) and the Cosmonaut Training Center there. I read that the Tsniimach\n(Central Scientific Research Institute of Machine Building, est. 1961) \nEnterprise was also responsible for creating the NKIK (Ground Command and \nMeasurement Complex) including the Kaliningrad Flight Control Center\nwhich has controlled all Soviet\/Russian manned spaceflights since its\ncompletion in 1973. However, it appears to have been a part of the \nMinistry of General Machine Building which was not part of the military\n(Ministry of Defense) but would have been a part of the military-industrial\ncomplex. ","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"There will always be a zillion lawyers who, if they get paid well\nenough, will sue your brains out. Gosh! Can't anyone send them off to\nanother planet?! \nWell maybe, it would be better to just send Apple, Microsoft and a few\nothers (that way we would get rid of some terrible products as well :)\n\n--","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Hi,\nI'm having problems tying to get a Sony DAT drive to work.  I'm using\nRetrospect 1.3Ci,\nand my only luck with getting the drive to work has been with a Mac IIci,\nwhich has\nnow unfortunately gone to another department.\n  Ideally, we want to attach it to our Quadra 950 setup.  I can't seem to\nget the\nRetrospect software to recognize the media at all.  When in the \"Devices\"\ndialog,\nit can see the DAT device, but comes up with, firstly, 'Running', secondly\n'Media Failure' and then immediately 'Contents Unknown'.  This does not\nhappen with the\nMac IIci setup, which simply says 'Ready'.\n  I'm hoping someone else will have had similar problems but found some\nsolution... I \nknow some others who have had problems with DAT devices and their Quadra,\nbut they have\na Mac IIci which they can use!\n  \nTHE SYMPTOMS\nSystem software is 7.1, also didn't\nwork with 7.0.1\n  I have tried the following:\n  Turn off all extensions, except Retrospect SCSI (required)\n  Tested on a variety of machines:  Quadra, IIsi, and LC (at least).\n  Connected no other SCSI devices\n  Tested all varieties of SCSI termination etc.\n  Replaced the DAT unit with a new one (Yes!  we got that desperate!)\n  Read the Retrospect manual (EVEN MORE DESPERATE :))\n\nReplies via email would be greatly appreciated... thanks in advance. \nI'll post any\nsolutions to this group.\n\nCheers,\nMatt.\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"TWINS UPDATE --  Posted April 22, 1993  \n---------------------------------------------\nThe Twins defeated the Milwaukee Brewers 5-4 today to conclude a three game\nhomestand with the Brew crew.  The Twins took two of three games in the series,\nwith scores as follows:\n\n                  Tuesday April 20th    MN  10\n                                        Mil  0\n                   Winning Pitcher Banks (2-0)  \n\n                  Wednesday April 21st  Mil 10  (10)\n                                        MN   8\n                    LP  - Hartley ( 0-1 )\n\n                  Thursday April 22nd   MN  5\n                                        Mil 4\n                    WP - Deshaies (4-0)\n                    Sa - Aguilera\n\nHighlight\/Low Lights of the Series:\n------------------------------------\nJim Deshaies continues to be the surprise of not only the Twins, but of\nthe American League as well.  Going into today's game, Deshaies was 3-0\nwith a 1.74 ERA.  Deshaies allowed 2 Earned runs in 6 2\/3 innings, meaning\nhis ERA will climb slightly.  Deshaies, who came to MN via a trade with\nPhiladelphia which sent David West there, continues to make Andy MacPhail\nlook like a true genius.\n\nWillie Banks has put together two solid starts for the Twins, going 6.1 innings\non Monday while coasting on solid Twins hitting.  Deshaies and Banks now \ncombine for 6 of the Twins eight victories, while Tapani\/Mahomes\/Erickson are\n0-5.\n\nWednesday's game marked the first opposing left-handed starting pitcher for the\nTwins this year (Rickey Bones).  The Twins teed off against both him and \nsubsequent relief, including a Grand Slam by Kent Hrbek which pushed the lead\nto 7-3.  The Twins pitching staff could not hold the lead, though, allowing\n4 walks in the 7th inning, 2 of which scored and coming with bases loaded.\nTapani gave up one walk before being relieved, Guthrie two walks, and Mike\nHartley one walk before the inning was over.  This tied the game at 7-7, and\nthe Brew Crew rocked Mike Hartley for 3 runs in the top of the tenth to win\nit.\n\nAguilera continues to be shaky against the Brew Crew.  6 of 20 career blown\nsaves have come against the Brew Crew, and today's game was shaky as well.\nComing into the ninth with a 5-2 lead, Aguilera gave up a solo HR to Vaughn,\nthen hits to Darryl Hamilton and Dickie Thon before finally retiring the\nside.  Once again, the tying run made it to second base on Aggie.\nWeak hearted Twins fans are advised not to watch Aggie in the ninth.\n\nGeneral News\n-------------------------------------\nPedro Munoz continues to improve as an outfielder, playing in left field on\nTuesday's game.  He continues to bat weakly against right handed pitching,\nthough, which has limited his playing time.  Gene Larkin and JT Bruett(former\nGopher) have been playing right field, as both can bat left handed.\n\nThe Twins begin a three game series with the Detroit Tigers tomorrow.  Starting\nPitching is tentatively scheduled as Erickson, Mahomes, Banks.  The Detroit\nTigers have had TWO 20 run games in the last ten days, and should provide \nquite a challenge to the young MN pitching staff.\n\nThe Twins have 9 HR's this year, three each from Puckett, Hrbek, and Winfield,\nthe third, fourth, and fifth batters, respectively.\n\nBrian Harper pegged 4 of the first 6 baserunners attempting to steal second\nthis year, and shows much improvement in this category.\n\nJim Deshaies has three pick-offs and one balk this year.  Some say he \nhas the best 1st base move in baseball.  This move has enabled him to pitch\nout of some tight early jams, and has certainly contributed to his 4-0 \nstart.  Watch to see if umpiring crews began calling the balk more tightly\nin response to opposing team complaints about his leg kicking behind the\nrubber on the pick-off move.\n\n\nCurrent MLB AL West Standings( from Joesph Hernandez, jtchern@ocb.berkeley.edu  )","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"My schedule is flexible so any games are candidates\nAC>(though I'd prefer to see Texas.)\n   Hi Tony.I think that I might be able to help you out!The Rangers are\n   here in Toronto Thursday July 8th through Sunday July 11th and\n   tickets should not be hard to find if you order them far enough in\n   advance.Although I don't have a ticket broker's telephone number off\n   hand if you give me a couple of days I will be able to get a hold a=\n   of a couple.The Blue Jays ticket info # is (416)341-1111 or if you\n   want to order by credit card,call (416) 341-1234.If you let me\n   know,when you want the tickets I can save you a possible long\n   distance call.If all else fails I might be able to pull a few strings\n   and get you a pair.Let me know whats happening.\n\nDrew Carley,Toronto Canada\n---\n \u00fe DeLuxe\u00fd 1.25 #2177 \u00fe Go away,or I shall taunt you a second time!","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I have manual transmission 5 speed. It difficult to engage gear. Does xmission oil change improve this situation?\nWhat do you think about the most favorable xmission oil change period?","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\tLadies & Gentlemen... Please keep this discussion in\n\tcomp.os.ms-windows.advocacy where it belongs.\n\tThank you.\n\nJohn A. Grant\t\t\t\t\t\tjagrant@emr1.emr.ca\nAirborne Geophysics\nGeological Survey of Canada, Ottawa","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nThey lowered the mound first (before the 69 season).  The shrinkage of\nthe strike zone didn't start until the mid-70s.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nThis is a fine strategy if you expect to run away with the division.\nBut the Giants are going to need every break they can get, if they\nwant too hold that lead.  I don't think they can afford to be\nlackadaisical, and say \"well it has worked pretty well so far, and\nwhile we might be able to improve the results, we don't think it is\nworth the risk\".\n\n\nThe two tend to go hand in hand...","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I was wondering, since I've got a few fax machine scanners \nintact, if they could be integrated to the pc environment as a \nmono-scanner?  If so, where to start?!\n \n                Thanks.\n \n \n  _________________________________________________\n  Inspiration  |   ___                             |\n  comes to     |  \\   o  baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca |\n  those who    | (  ^  ) baden@inqmind.bison.mb.ca |\n  seek the     |   \/-\\      =] Baden de Bari [=    |\n  unknown.     |                                   |","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"This is not a trend. The Caps were done. Goneso in five games, and it saves\nus Caps fans a lot of pain.\n\nI mean, it would be more painful if the Caps were up 3-1, watching them \ntumbled when they need ONE MORE WIN to clinch the series. How many times\nhave they done that in their history?\n\n1985 up 2-0 in a five game series against the Isles, lost 3 straight\n1987 up 3-1 against the Isles, lost 3 straight\n1992 up 3-1 against the Pens, lost 3 straight\n\nIn other words, when they were about to clinch with 3 games to go, they \nwere a pitiful 2-9, the lone wins being \n\n1) a sweep of Philly in 1984\n2) the 1990 win against the Rangers in the Patrick finals, the ONLY TIME \nthey managed to get out of the division.\n\nActually, Saturday's blown lead wasn't anything new. We all know the Caps\nare famous lead blowers in crucial playoff games. Examples:\n\n1) game 4 against the Isles, 1985, led 4-2 after two, lead series 2-1,\ngave up 4 goals in the 3rd period, including the game winning goal in the\nlast minute. After that goal, Bobby Carpenter botched a penalty shot.\nSeries tied 2-2, lost game 5 a few days later.\n\n2) game 4 against the Rangers, 1986, led series 2-1, led by 2 in the 3rd \nperiod, blew it. Lost game in OT and three consecutive games.\n\n3) game 6 against Pittsurgh, 1992, led series 3-2, led by 2 in 2nd period.\nBlew it and the series.\n\n4) game 3 against Isles, 1993, series tied 1-1, led by 2 after 2. Blew it.\n\n5) game 4 against Isles, 1993, trailed series 2-1, led by 3 in 2nd period.\nBlew it again.\n\nWhen they were leading by 3 in game 4, I said to myself: \"if they blew this\nlead, the series is OVER\". They have lost all the momemtum. The Islanders\nbelieve they can come back no matter what the score is.\n\nI am still waiting for a Cap goalie who can carry the team, who can \ncompletely shut down the opposition when they are hanging on their dear \nlives in a crucial game.\n\nWell, some teams such have it and some teams just don't. When the Caps\nwere frustrated year in year out by the Islanders, I was thinking \"wait\nuntil Potvin\/Bossy\/Trottier\/Smith retire\". Well, they retired (even though\nTrottier was still able to haunt the Caps on a Pens uniform), yet another\ngeneration of Islanders were still doing the same thing. Well, I guess \nit has nothing to do with the players.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":": In article <C5Mw03.9qr@darkside.osrhe.uoknor.edu>, bil@okcforum.osrhe.edu\n: > I'd say that what one chooses to observe and how the observation is\n: > interpreted and what significance it's given depends a great deal on\n: > the values of the observer. Science is a human activity and as such,\n: > is subject to the same potential for distortion as any other human\n: > activity. The myth that scientists are above moral influence or\n: > ethical concern, that their knowledge can be abstacted whole and pure\n: > from nature untainted by the biases of the scientist, is nonsense.\n\n: Bill, this is wonderfully phrased. I assume you understand that your\n: statement is also undermining such human constructs as religion\n: as well.\n\n\nKent,\n\nI'll accept this as a compliment although I'm always a little paranoid\nwhen visiting a.a, thanks. Yes I do know the extent of the statements\nrelevence, it's what I think of as human nature. I'm not sure it\nundermines either religion or atheism since both claim special\nknowledge about the Truth and since such claims are always suspect,\nall we can learn from it is that humans are a very arrogant species.\nMy point is that we cannot ignore human nature when examining human\nclaims. The trick here then, is to find some way to abstract our\ninfinitely fallible nature from whatever reality is out there so we\ncan see what there is to see. I can think of no way this can be done.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"Could anybody tell me if exists any program to convert AUTOCAD graphics to\nanother format (GIF, TIFF, BMP, PCX ...) and where to get it?\n\n\tThanks in advance","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nWhy don't you tell us, Tony?  I'm sure what you THINK you know adds up to a\nlot more than what Casper has.\n\nDoesn't it frustrate you to consider how many intelligent, thoughtful \npeople you have prepared for the Mormon missionaries with your rant?  The\nmore you talk, the better we look.  Nothing makes the truth look better\nthan a background of falsehood.\n\nSic 'em, Tony!","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nThis was all badly reported in the news.  There is no evidence that\nsigns of life found in old rock predate putative planet-sterilizing\nevents.  Rather, the argument was that if life arose shortly the last\nsterilizing event, then it must be easily formed.  The *inference*\nwas that life originated before and was destroyed, but there was\nno evidence of that.\n\nHowever, even this argument is flawed.  It could well be that origin of\nlife requires specific conditions (say, a certain composition of the\natmosphere) that do not last for long.  So, perhaps life formed\nearly only because it would have had no other chance to do so,\nnot because it was likely that life would originate under those\nconditions.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nI'd guess this was a garbled report of the NERVA effort to develop a\nsolid-core fission rocket (the most mundane type of nuclear rocket).\nThat was the only advanced-propulsion project that was done on a large\nenough scale to be likely to attract news attention.  It *could* be any\nnumber of things -- the description given is awfully vague -- but I'd\nput a small bet on NERVA.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nThe curiosities that you speak of are EL (Electro-Luminescent) pads.  They\nare mostly used as backlights for LCD's, and as you pointed out, comes\nin several different colors.  Many of them emit white-ish colors (\"true\"\nwhite, and blue-whiteis-blue are the ones that I've personally encountered\nthe most often.)\n\nThey vary in their input requirements, however, they tend to operate at \nabout 100 Vrms, and at much higher than 60 Hz.  (400 Hz to 1 kHz, if I \nrecall correctly.)   You can get them to work at 120 Vrms, 60 Hz (i.e.,\nline) but they don't glow as brightly, and they will degrade much faster.\n(Oh yes, almost forgot, EL's have this tendency to wear out over time...)\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n  You are correct WRT the idea of some heating being nice that morning.  But \npart of that line was also for the guy who said \"minutes later, the fires\nstarted\".  I did forget how cool it was that day.\n\n\n  When you got 30-40 mph winds swinging across the Texas plain, a couple of\nHueys don't add one whole hell of a lot.\n\nsemper fi,","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\t\t\t\tBy then it might be already 200$ cheaper :-))\n\nSame here at the U of MN, 1599$ for that bundle.\n\nPeter\n\n\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"If you would like to understand better the sort of behavior\nthat we saw in connection with the Waco tragedy, I'd strongly\nrecommend reading _When Prophecy Fails_, by Leon Festinger,\nHenry Riecken, and Stanley Schachter (available as a Harper\nTorchbook). It goes a long way towards explaining how a \nbelief system can be so strong as to withstand even overwhelming\ndisconfirmatory evidence. At least, read the first chapter.\nInterestingly, just as the Branch Davidians had roots in the\nSeventh-Day Adventist movement, the SDAs themselves had their\nroots in the Millerite movement of the first half of the 19th\ncentury--a movement that expected the end of the world in 1843,\nwas disappointed when it did not take place, and wound up as\na church.\n\nBill\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"I'm looking to buy machinist tools of any kind. If you have\nany or know of any for sale please leave me e-mail and I'll\nget back to you promptly.\n\n\t\t\t\tFrank","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I am wondering how to change the English fonts in an existed \nAPI to some multi-bytes fonts ? (such as Chinese, Japanese...)\nSomeone told me X11R5 supports some internationalization\nfeatures, but I cannot find any examples for my need. Is there\nanybody has done some similar jobs ?\n\nBy the way, all the English fonts should be replace by Chinese or\nJapanese fonts, that means in windows, menubar, button....\n\nThat will be great if someone can share us what you have done.\nThanks in advance.","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"\n\nThe Moderator of the General Assembly, the Rev. John Fife, visited our\nchurch about a week ago (just 4 days after Rev. Spahr--it's been a busy\nweek for our small church!!).  He was asked specifically about the issue\nof homosexuality and what he thinks will happen at the GA meeting next\nmonth.  Evidently, there are 15-20 known resolutions pending that range\nthe gamut from \"outlawing\" homosexuality altogether to \"legalizing\" it\ncompletely.  He will readily admit that this is probabaly the most difficult\nissue that the church has had to deal with since the Presbyterian church\nsplit in two over the issue of slavery more than 100 years ago.  Without\nquestion, the issue may split the church again after we've been reunited\nfor all of a dozen years or so.  He is hopeful that it will not and is\npushing the same attitude that helped the church deal with the abortion\nissue last year as a solution.\n\nHe is hoping to pass a resolution that more or less states that we, the\nmembers of the church \"Agree to Disagree\" on the issue, admitting that\nboth sides have honestly studied the Scriptures and had the Spirit lead\nthem to different conclusions.  It worked last year when the abortion\nissue threatened to do more or less the same thing, and he is hopeful that\nthe GA can foster a loving and caring attitude about people who disagree\nwith their own view.\n\n--\nCliff Slaughterbeck           | \nDept. of Physics, FM-15       |   It's time for the sermon on the\nUniversity of Washington      |   Grand Torino!\nSeattle, WA 98195             |","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"********************************************************************\n*                                                                  *\n*                            Announcing                            *\n*                                                                  *\n*                            COSY_PAK                              * \n*                                                                  *                           \n*              (A symbolic COntrol SYstems analysis PAcKage)       *            \n*                                                                  *\n*                           Version 0.9                            * \n*                            \t\t                           *    \n*                      (NO USER FEE RELEASE)                       *             \n*                                                                  *\n*                               for                                *\n*                                                                  *\n*                      Mathematica Version 2.0 or higher           *\n*                                                                  *\n********************************************************************\n\n==> INTRODUCTION\n\n  COSY_PAK is set of packages and notebooks for classical control and \n(some) modern (state space) control analysis and design methods. The\nnotebooks in COSY_PAK follow a typical `Control Engineering I' course\ntaught at many universities around the world for the junior\/senior \nlevel undergraduates. There is NO FEE to use COSY_PAK but certain \nresponsibilities are expected of the user (see Copyright notice in the \nREADME file included below). For starters e-mail \/ FAX \/ Mail (Post) \nthe registration form included in the README file.\n\nCOSY_PAK is available via `anonymous ftp' from\n\n          mishna.esys.cwru.edu (INTERNET No : 129.22.40.23) \n\nin the \/pub directory. \n\nP.S.: A typical ftp session in UNIX is given after the README file. \n\n\n==> FUTURE RELEASES\n\n   If you would like to receive updates and newer versions of\nCOSY_PAK please send e-mail\/FAX\/mail to the address\nbelow. In addition, your  comments and suggestions are\nappreciated and are invaluable to us. We will do our  best\nto  fix any reported bugs. However, we cannot fix those\nbugs that  have not been  reported to us and those we do not\nknow of. We would  very much appreciate you taking  a few\nminutes to communicate to us  via e-mail \/ US Mail \/ \nTelephone \/ FAX. This will help us to release  bug-free\nversions in the future. Comments are welcome. \n\nN. Sreenath\nSystems Engineering Department\nCase School of Engineering\nCase Western Reserve University\n\n******************\ne-mail: sree@mishna.cwru.edu\n\nU.S. Mail:\n\nProf. N. Sreenath                    Tel.: (216) 368-6219\nSystems Engg., Crawford Hall         FAX: (216) 368-3123\nCase Western Reserve Univ.\nCleveland OH 44106-7070\n  \n========================= Begin README file =========================\n\n\n\n\n                       (NO USER FEE RELEASE)\n\n\t\t\t     COSY_PAK \n\t\t\t     \n\t       (A symbolic COntrol SYstems analysis PAcKage)\n\t\t\t    \n\t\t\t    Version 0.9                \n\t\t \n\t                        for\n\t\t\t\t\n                  \tMathematica Version 2.0 or higher\n\n                                by\n\n               C.K.Chen \t\tN. Sreenath\n\t\t\n\t     \t         Systems Engineering\n\t\t     Case School of Engineering\n\t     \t   Case Western Reserve University\t\t\n\t     \t      Cleveland, OH, 44106-7070\t\t       \n\t\t      e-mail: sree@mishna.cwru.edu\n\t\t\t\n--> Copyright\n    :Copyright: Copyright 1992 by C. K. Chen and N. Sreenath, Case \nWestern Reserve University. \n        \n    Permission to use, copy, modify and distribute this software and \nits documentation for any purpose and without fee is hereby granted, \nprovided that the above copyright notice appear in supporting \ndocumentation, and the name of the Case Western Reserve University,\nCase School of Engineering not be used in advertising or publicity \npertaining to distribution of the software without specific, without \nprior permission. Case Western Reserve University makes no \nrepresentations about the suitability of this software for any \npurpose. It is provided \"as is\" with out express or implied warranty.\n    \t\t\n--> Acknowledgements\n\n    Support from CWRU Information and Network Services - Dr. Ray Neff,\nCase Alumni Association, The Lilly Foundation and the Systems \nEngineering Department of Case Western Reserve University is \ngratefully acknowledged. Special thanks to Brian Evans of Georgia Tech  \nfor all the help.  \n\n--> FTP\n\n     COSY_PAK is available by anonymous `ftp' from \nmishna.esys.cwru.edu (Internet No. 129.22.40.23). A sample ftp session \nis given at the end of this file.\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n--> Changes in Version 0.9 (update from v0.81 to v0.9)\n\n\tIn this version, we have revised COSY_PAK to take advantage of \nthe more robust signal processing functions available in Mathematica v2.1.  \nSince Mathematica 2.1 provides a better  and  working \nLaplaceTransform and InverseLaplaceTransform functions than \nMathematica v2.0 did, we adopted them. This has made COSY_PAK \nsmaller. Thus Brian Evans' Signal Processing packages that supported \nthe LaplaceTransform  and InverseLaplaceTransform functions in the \nCOSY_PAK v0.81 are no longer needed directly by COSY_PAK v0.9. For \npower users who  use Signal Processing we still recommend the use of the very  \nfine  Brian Evans package on Signal Processing (available at \nthe anonymous  ftp site gauss.eedsp.gatech.edu  or  IP # 130.207.226.24).  On  \nthe  downside, the disadvantage of this update \ncan be that Mathematica 2.1 requires more runtime resources than its \nprevious version. \n\n\n***********************************************************************\t\n--> For Mathematica 2.0 users\n\t\n\tWe have included the LaplaceTransform package from Mathematica 2.1 in  \nthe directory `For_2.0'. Please move all files and directory under For_2.0 into  \nthe Calculus directory under Mathematica Packages directory. \n\n**************************************************************************\n\t    \n--> Introduction\n   \n    This is an unsupported release of COSY_PAK - a COntrol SYstems \nanalysis PAcKage for symbolic control systems analysis using \nMathematica 2.1. Classical control systems analysis and design methods and some  \nmodern control systems methods have been implemented in this package. \n    \n    This package and the attendant notebooks were developed on a \nNeXT (TM) computer (a UNIX based workstation). They have been \nused as a supplementary teaching aid along with  standard control \nengineering texts (Ogata [1991], Phillips and Harbor [1991]) for \nundergraduate courses in `Control Engineering I' taught at the Systems \nEngineering Department of CWRU. In addition to the NeXT, they have \nalso been tested successfully on Apple Macintosh computers (TM), and, \nIBM PC's (TM) running MS Windows(TM). We would be very much interested \nto hear from you if you or anybody you know uses this software on \nplatforms not mentioned above. IBM users however will have to \nevaluate the notebooks first to visualize the graphics.\n\n    Once installed (see below for instructions), this  collection  of  \nMathematica  packages  can be loaded by any user. Bundled with the \npackages are many notebooks (\"COSY_Notes\") which demonstrate  \nthe functionality of these packages. The notebooks follow a plan of \nmany fine, standard, undergraduate Control Engineering text books \nlisted in the references. Examples used in these notebooks have \nbeen collected from the various references given at the end of this \nfile. The contents of the notebooks in the \"COSY_Notes\" directory are \ngiven below.\n   \n ----------- Begin \"COSY_Notes\" Contents -----------\n \n NOTEBOOK FILE NAME: 01_Introduction.ma\n CHAPTER 1: Introduction to Control Systems\n\t\n\tSections:  \n\t     Analyticity\n\t     Poles and Zeros\n\t     Signals\n\t     Forward Laplace Transforms\n\t     Inverse Laplace Transforms\n\t     Differential Equation With Zero-Valued Initial Conditions\n\t     Differential Equation With Initial Conditions\n\t     \t     \n -----------\n \n NOTEBOOK FILE NAME: 02_Math_Models.ma\n CHAPTER 2: Mathematical Modeling of Dynamic Systems\n\n \t Sections:  \n\t      ODE to State Space  \n\t      Linearization of a Nonlinear System of Equations  \n\t      State Space to Transfer Function\n\t\t     \n -----------\n \n NOTEBOOK FILE NAME: 03_*_Transient_Response.ma\n CHAPTER 3: Transient-Response Analysis  \n            (Chapter split into three sub notebooks because of file\n\t     size)\n\n\t NOTEBOOK FILE NAME: 03_1_Transient_Response.ma\n            \n\t    Sections :       \n\t      Time Response Analysis  \n\t      First order System  \n\t      Second Order System  \n\t      Third Order and Higher Order Systems\n\t      \n         NOTEBOOK FILE NAME: 03_2_Transient_Response.ma\n            \n\t    Sections  :        \t      \n\t      First Order System (Step Response vs. Time Const)  \n\t      \n\t      \n         NOTEBOOK FILE NAME: 03_3_Transient_Response.ma\n            \n\t    Sections  :\n\t      Second Order System (Step Response vs. Damping Ratio)  \n\t      \n\t            \n -----------\n\n NOTEBOOK FILE NAME: 04_Steady_State_Response.ma\n CHAPTER 4: Steady-State Response\n \n         Sections:\t      \n\t      Routh's Stability \n \t      Steady-State Error Analysis\n                \n -----------\n\t\t\n NOTEBOOK FILE NAME: 05_Root_Locus.ma\n CHAPTER 5: Root-Locus Analysis\n\n -----------\n \n NOTEBOOK FILE NAME: 06_Freq_Response.ma\n CHAPTER 6: Frequency-Response Analysis\n\n         Sections:\n\t      Bode Plot Analysis  \n\t      Magnitude vs. Phase Plot (Nichols Plot)\n\t      Polar Plot  \n\t      Nyquist Plot  \n\t      Combined Example\n\t      \n -----------\n \n NOTEBOOK FILE NAME: 07_State_Space.ma\n CHAPTER 7: State Space Methods\n\n         Sections:\n\t      Introduction\n\t      State Transition Matrix\n\t      Controllability\n\t      Observability\n\t      Output Controllability\n\t      Pole Placement Design \n\t      Observer Design\n\t      Time Response Using State Space Methods\n\n \n ----------- End Notebook Contents -----------\n \n\n--> Compressed Files\n\n        The files that contain  a  complete set of the COSY_PAK v0.9\npackages and Notebooks for Mathematica are:\n\n COSY_PAK_09.tar.Z     \t\tcompressed tar file for Unix systems\n\t\n COSY_PAK_09.sit.hqx     \tcompressed sit file for Macintosh \n \t\t\t\tsystems and encoded by BinHex 4.0 \n\t\t\t\tformat (requires the   shareware\n\t\t\t\t Stuffit file v 1.5.1 or higher). \n\t\n COSY_PAK_IBM_09.zip    \tzip file for the IBM PC running MS-DOS\n    \n     Once expanded the Mathematica files can also be used on \nMacintosh \/ IBM PC \/ Unix systems also.\n\n\n--> Installation of COSY_PAK\n\n o In UNIX Command line type the following command:\n\n      zcat COSY_PAK_09.tar.Z | tar xvf -\n\n o In Macintosh open the .sit.hqx file using the shareware\n    Stuffit v 1.5.1 or higher.\n  \n o In IBM Command line type the following command:\n\n      pkunzip -o -d COSY_PAK_IBM_09.zip\n\nNOTE: This .zip file was zipped by zip utility v2.0. You must use \npkunzip version 2.0 or  higher to unzip it.  IBM PC's may limit the \ndirectory name characters to eight. In that event type \"pkunzip -o -d \nCOSY_PAK.zip.  You can also unzip the COSY_PAK_IBM_09.zip file on any \nUnix machine if you have unzip utility on it.\n\n\n     Uncompressing and untarring \"COSY_PAK_09.tar.Z\" or unzipping \n\"COSY_PAK_IBM_09.zip\" will create a directory called \"COSY_PAK\".\n         \t\nOnce the files are expanded you should see a single directory \n\"COSY_PAK\" containing the following three files, four \nsub-directories and their contents:\n\nSUB-DIRECTORIES in \"COSY_PAK\":  \n  COSYPAK    - contains control tool box packages \n  MANUAL     - COSY_PAK manual in .ps, .rtf, .txt, and .wn formats. \n  COSY_Notes - contains notebooks \n  For_2.0    - contains Laplace transform package from Mathematica 2.1\n  \t\tFor Mathematica 2.0 users.\t \n    \t\t\nFILES in directory \"COSYPAK\":\n  chap1.m   chap2.m   chap3.m  chap4.m  chap5.m   chap6.m  chap7.m\n\t\nFILES in directory \"COSY_Notes\":\n\t01_Introduction.ma\t  \n\t02_Math_Model.ma\n\t03_1_Transient_Response.ma   \n\t03_2_Transient_Response.ma   \n\t03_3_Transient_Response.ma   \n\t04_Steady_State_Response.ma\n\t05_Root_Locus.ma\t  \n\t06_Freq_Response.ma \n\t07_State_Space.ma         \n\t\nFILES in directory \"For_2.0\":\n\tLaplaceTransform.m     DiracDelta.m\t\n\tSUB-DIRECTORIES in \"COSY_PAK\":\tCommon\n\tFILES in directory \"Common\":  Support.m\n\n********************* Important ********************\t\n\n\tThe notebook example files(.ma files) will be under the \n\"COSY_Notes\" directory.  To use the notebooks, move the directory `COSYPAK' to  \na \ndirectory that  Mathematica can recognize :\n\t\n        \/LocalLibrary\/Mathematica\/Packages     \ton a UNIX machine,\n        MY_HardDisk:Mathematica:Packages   \ton an Apple Macintosh,\n        c:\\winmath\\packages                  \ton an IBM PC.\n\n\tAt the beginning of the \"Initialization\" cell of each notebook \nin  \"COSY_Notes\" directory, we list the example about how to make \nMathematica identify the directory:\n\n\t(* Initialization of Path *)\n\n\t(* Example For a UNIX machine  (Default) *) \n\t(*\n\t$Path=Join[$Path,\n\t{\"\/LocalLibrary\/Mathematica\/Packages\"}];\n\t*)\n\t\n\t(* Example For an Apple Macintosh  *) \n\t(*\n\t$Path=Join[$Path,\n\t{\"MY_HardDisk:Mathematica:Packages\"}];\n\t*)\n\t\n\t(* Example For IBM PC \t\n\t *)\n\t(*\n\t$Path=Join[$Path,\t\n\t {\"c:\\winmath\\packages\"}];\t\n\t*)\t\n\nChange the pathname according to your machine by removing the \nMathematica comment sign `(*' and `)*' before and after `$Path' \nsetting.\n\n\tThis command makes Mathematica recognize the directory\n\n        \/LocalLibrary\/Mathematica\/Packages     \ton a UNIX machine\n        MY_HardDisk:Mathematica:Packages   \ton a Apple Macintosh\n        c:\\winmath\\packages                \ton an IBM PC\n\n\n--> Mathematica 2.0 users\n\t\n\tWe include the LaplaceTransform package from Mathematica 2.1 in \nthe directory For_2.0. Please move all files and directory under For_2.0 \ninto the Calculus directory under Mathematica Packages directory. \n\n\n--> Getting started\n\n       After installation, start Mathematica and open the notebooks in \nthe \"COSY_Notes\" directory. All notebooks load their own packages. \nNavigate in the notebooks and enjoy. IBM users however will have to \nevaluate the notebooks to visualize the graphics.\n    \n*************************************************************** \n\n--> USER RESPONSIBILITIES\n\n      We request you to take a few minutes and fill out the \ninformation below and mail it to us by e-mail \/ FAX \/ U.S. Mail. This \nwill help us to keep your abreast of the improvements and release new \nversions of COSY_PAK. Suggestions for improvements are welcome.\n\n-------------------------------cut here-------------------------------\n  \n  YOUR NAME:     ________________________________________\n \n  ORGANIZATION:  ________________________________________\n  \n  TITLE:         ________________________________________\n  \n  e-mail:        ________________________________________\n\n  POSTAL ADDRESS:________________________________________\n  \n                 ________________________________________\n\t\t   \n  Comments &     ________________________________________\n  \n  Suggestions:   ________________________________________\n\t\t \n                 ________________________________________\n\t\t \n\n\n\n-------------------------------cut here-------------------------------\n\nMail this information to (E-mail \/ FAX \/ U.S. Mail) :\n\nINTERNET: sree@mishna.cwru.edu\n\nU.S. Mail:\n\nProf. N. Sreenath                    Tel.: (216) 368-6219\nSystems Engg., Crawford Hall         FAX: (216) 368-3123\nCase Western Reserve Univ.\nCleveland OH 44106-7070\n  \n*************************************************************** \n\n--> REPORT BUGS\n\n     Please report bugs and leave comments to the address above. \nAny suggestion for improvements and criticism are welcome.\n\n     We will do our best to  fix any reported bugs. However, we cannot \nfix those bugs that have not been  reported to us and those we do not \nknow of. We would very much appreciate you taking  a few minutes to \ncommunicate to us via e-mail \/ US Mail \/  Telephone \/ FAX. This will \nhelp us to release bug-free versions in the future.\n\t\n\t\n***************************************************************\n\n--> Disclaimer and Future Releases\n\n \tThis software is the property of the Case Western Reserve \nUniversity. Use this software at your own risk. We make no express or \nimplied  warranty.\n\n\tThe packages and the notebooks can also be made to run under \nMathematica versions 2.0 or lower with modification. We do not \nguarantee the outcome.\n\n\n--> Documentation\n\n        COSY_PAK functions are indexed in the files in the \n`MANUAL' directory according the chapters. Usage is illustrated in \nnotebooks residing in `COSY_Notes' directory.  If your computer does \nnot support notebooks find a Macintosh computer and acquire MathReader \nwhich is a public domain notebook reader. MathReader will at least \nallow you to peruse notebooks but you will not be able to evaluate \nany code fragments.\n\t\n\n--> References\n\nDorf, R. C., \"Modern Control Systems\", Sixth Edition, Addison \nWesley, New York, 1992.\n\nFortmann, T. E., and Hitz, K. L., \"An Introduction to Linear Control \nSystems\", Marcel Dekker, 1977.\n\nFranklin, G. F., Powell, D. J., and Emami-Naeini, A., \"Feedback \nControl of Dynamic Systems\", Second Edition, Addison Wesley, New \nYork, 1991.\n\nKuo, B. C., \"Automatic Control Systems\", Sixth Edition, Prentice Hall, \nNew Jersey, 1990.\n\nOgata, K., \"Modern Control Engineering\", Second Edition, Prentice \n\nHall, New Jersey, 1991.\n\nPhillips, C. L., and Harbor, R. D., \"Feedback Control Systems\", \nSecond Edition, Prentice Hall, New Jersey, 1991.\n\n\n========================= End README file =========================\n\nTYPICAL `ftp' session :\n-----------------------\n\n%ftp mishna.esys.cwru.edu\nConnected to mishna.\n220 mishna FTP server (Version 5.20 (NeXT 1.0) Sun Nov 11, 1990) ready.\n\nName (mishna.esys.cwru.edu:sree): anonymous\n\nPassword:\n\nftp> cd \/pub\n\nftp> binary\n\nftp> ls\n200 PORT command successful.\n150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list.\nCOSY_PAK_09.tar.Z\nCOSY_PAK_IBM_09.zip\nIndex\nREADME\nplaces.wmd\nCOSY_PAK_untar\n226 Transfer complete.\n78 bytes received in 0 seconds (15.35 Kbytes\/s)\n\nftp> get COSY_PAK_09.tar.Z\n200 PORT command successful.\n150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for COSY_PAK_09.tar.Z (460822 bytes).\n226 Transfer complete.\nlocal: COSY_PAK_09.tar.Z remote: COSY_PAK_09.tar.Z\n460822 bytes received in 1.33 seconds (3.38e+02 Kbytes\/s)\n\nftp> quit\n221 Goodbye.\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":" \n   Did I say that a child who unintentionally shoots someone is not negligent?\n NO.  I hate to repeat myself Jim, but like I told Joe, I was not attempting\nin any way to justify gun control.  You're right, any death is serious.\nTHAT was my point to Joe who said that \"anti-gunners\" try to convinve\nthe country that accidental gun deaths related to children are a serious\nproblem.  I guess I assumed everyone thought that it was a problem.\nNo, I don't want to discuss match control.  I don't equate a book of matches\nto a loaded 9 millimeter either.  Don't confuse the issue.  And please don't\nsay that tired old NRA line \"Guns don't kill people, people kill people\".\nSure, people can kill people without guns.  But easy access to guns makes it\na lot more convenient.  \"Guns don't kill people, People with easy access to\nguns kill people\".\n \n    Jim, I'm just saying how it is.  I'm not saying if that is a good thing\nor not. From the police who I have talked with who run some of these gun\nbuyback programs, I get the impression that they really think they are\nhaving an impact on the community.  When I ask them if they have an evaluatory\ncomponent to the program, they say \"well no...\"  So, in answer to your\nquestion, no, false hope is not the intent.  I think the intent is to\nshow folks that police are attempting to do something to curb interpersonal\ngun violence whether its effective or not.  Look, if you can't measure\nthe impact of these programs using some sort of pre-test and post-test\nevaluation, what is the point?  It must be symbolic in nature.  The police are\nessentially saying \"look, if you have a gun lying around and you don't\nwant it, we'll give you $50 for it...because we care about the community\".\nIf you, I and Joe could think of a way to measure the effectiveness or\nineffectiveness of these programs we could become rich and famous.\n ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nYep.  I've done this, too.  The trick is to use a tiny screwdriver and push\ndown on the \"latch\" of each pin and then pull it out of the connector.  Label\neach one first with tape so you don't get them confused after you've pulled\nthem out.  Compare the pinout tables in the Mitsumi and Soundblaster manuals\nto get the correct orientation.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"On 4\/20\/93, Tim Keanini was heard to say regarding \"Mac SCSI spec?:\" \n\n  TK> From: blast@nntp.crl.com (Tim\n  TK> Keanini)\n  TK> \n  TK> I have a MacIIFX and I know that it is wired about its SCSI chain.\n  TK> \n  TK> I just bought a drive and I need to find out a few hardcore SCSI\n  TK> question:\n  TK> \n  TK> Does the IIFX SCSI chain want to see active or passive termination?\n  TK> \n  TK> Does the IIFX SCSI spec want me to enable the initiation of the SDTR\n  TK> message?\n  TK> \n  TK> WHat does the IIFX SCSI spec want as far as parity checking?\n  TK> \n  TK> These are some very good questions for the FAQ. If someone does not\n  TK> have time to answer these questions but does know where I can look\n  TK> them up please let me know and I will repost the answers for everyone\n  TK> to see.\n  TK> \n\n      Read TechNote #273...it deals with more than any sane person wants to\nknow about the IIfx's SCSI....","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"America West Airline Tickets for Sale\n\nTwo $300 vouchers on America West Airlines, which can be used toward the purchase of tickets to wherever that airline goes.  There are no restrictions and no blackout times.  They're legally transferable and can be used anytime before July 1.  Asking $250 each.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"My PC is a 486-33DX (ISA) with AMI BIOS and OPTI chipset. I am thinking of replacing the AMI BIOS chip (dated 6-91) with an up-to-date one (not for any reason, just messing around). My questions are:\n\n1. Do I just take out the old one and plug in a new?\n\n2. Anything else I have to take care of? What precautions should I take?\n\n3. Where can I get the new BIOS chip, CompUSA, mailorder or what? (I live in Orange County California).\n\n4. What is the most up-to-date version?\n\n5. Very important. How much would it be?\n\nThank you for your help.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"Just some thoughts:\n\nI don't usually like to post simply to make fun of a player,\nbut this time I couldn't resist.  During the Pens-Devils game\nlast night, second period, I think Kevin Stevens was in the\npenalty box, Nicholls punched Kjell Samuellson in the face,\nthen raised his stick like a two handed sword to defend\nhimself!  All Kjell could do, at 8'7\" and 355 pounds, was laugh!\n\nAnd speaking of Swedish Penguins defensemen, Ulf is getting a\nlittle out of hand lately.  His cheap shots are getting more\nfrequent and more violent.  As everybody in the Meadowlands\nexcept for the officials could see last night, he rammed the\nbutt of his stick down one of the Devil's throat.  I've always\nsupported the argument \"he does his job by being irritating,\"\nbut he's starting to push it over the edge IMHO.  Of course,\nHolik's chop to Barrasso's neck wasn't too sportsmanlike either.\nIt seems that he was following the \"The only way to beat the\nPenguins is to injure them\" philosophy.\n\nAs my Modern Drama professor pointed out to me the other day,\nJagr was stoned pretty well Tuesday night, and last night as\nwell, although the 30 seconds he danced around the Devils end\nwas pretty exciting.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"I have been hearing bad thing about amalgam dental fillings.  Some say\nthe lead\/ mercury leeches into your system and this is bad.  And I have\nrecently heard that there is some suspicion that the mercury is a breeding\nground for bacteria that will be resistant to antibiotics.   \n\nMy dentist wants to use an amalgam filling for me in a place where I have\ntwo cavaties in one tooth and wants to use one filling to cover both.\nHe says that composite filling don't hold up well when they are large.\nSo, I would like to know if there are any other choices besides amalgam\nand composite.  And, should I really even be worried about amalgam?  I\nheard that some scandanavian country does not even use them any more- \nis this true.\n\nAny information you can give me will be greatly appreciated.\n\n\nThanks!","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nIts my understanding that bus mice are more accurate and \"stable\" in\ngeneral than serial mice.  If I remember correctly, its because\nof the differences in how the interrupts are handled, as well as\nthe fact that the mouse data is received over the computer bus\nas opposed to a (9600 bps?) serial connection.\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I'm working on a system which uses a given set of 3D key frame\npositions (x,y,z) to control an imaginary camera movement.  I'm\nusing Kochanek-Bartels splines (as described in the SIGGRAPH '84\nproceedings) to create a variable number of inbetweens between\nthe key frames.  I want the inbetweens to be given in the form\n(x,y,z,dx,dy,dz) where the last three argumentsa are the x, y and\nz component of the viewing direction vector of the camera when\npositioned at (x,y,z).\n\nThe method presented by Kochanek and Bartels only deals with the\npositions of the inbetween view points to be generated.  I've\ntried to set the viewing direction at a view point equal to the\nchord between the two adjacent view points (which in general are\nnot key frames), but this causes a sligt discontinuity of the\nviewing direction vector at the key frame positions (although\nthe spatial movement seems to work fine; and I'm quite certain\n- I think :) - that I've not simply made an implementation\nerror...)\n\nNow I wonder if anyone out there has used this spline form for\nsimilar purposes and how they decided the viewing vectors.\nI'd appreciate replies to be emailed to me at\n  iharkest@lise.unit.no\nAnyone else interested in the answer will be sent a summary of\nthe replies if they contact me.\n\n-- \n _________     __________________\n\\\\        \\\\  \\\\\n \\\\ N G E  \\\\==\\\\ A R K E S T A D     iharkest@lise.unit.no         Comp. Sc.\n  \\\\________\\\\  \\\\_______________     NTH (Norwegian Institute of Technology)","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Mark Ira Kaufman writes\n\nNever mind the fact that these people were denied the right to a fair trial.  \nAnd Israel was supposed to uphold \"Western values\", eh?\n\n\nCheck your facts before bashing Islam again. While there may be Muslim  \nanti-semites, this is no way a tenet of the religion. Saying anti-semitism is  \n\"basic\" to Islam is implicating the entire Muslim world, based on a selective  \nsampling of a few people, and it flies in the face of what Islam teaches.\n\nPeace.\n--","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Can anyone share their experiences, good or bad, with a Tempe vendor\nnamed Motherboard Warehouse?  I'm considering purchasing one of their\n486dx2\/66 boards.  One of the selling points is their 10 day full money\nback guarantee.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nMotorola certainly makes them, but I don't know how you\nwould go about buying one.  You'd probably have to buy one\nof our secure radios.  \n\nYou could also bring in encryption chips from outside the country.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"ULTRIX\/X11R4 to plot surfaces and contour plots from a set of {x,y,z}.\nI would really appreciate any hint on the name of such a plotting program\nand where to find it.\n   Thanks for your help.\n\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"I wouldn't want anyone to make kindling out of my front living-\n   room wall and then drive their diesel powered M-60 tank into it,\n   shooting super-hot soot all over my curtains and that freshly \n   made kindling.\n   In other words, please don't FLAME me!","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\n(\"Andi Beyer\") responds:\n\n\nTalk about generalizations.  Indeed, you DO sound quite immature.\n\n\nWhat?  The ACLU fighting against an anti-hate law?  You mean that the\nACLU would support gay-bashing, racial discrimination and anti-semitic\nviolence?  Thanks, Andi, for reminding us that the constitution\npreserves our rights to such fun activities.\n\n\nProbably, but Galileo happened to be right.\n\nJews are offended by the Holocaust deniers, too.  The Revisionists,\nwho deny that history even happened, happen to be wrong.\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nDamn straight! As far as I've heard, unless the owner is _very_\nhard up, the GT-40s are not for sale at any price that mere\nmortals could afford.\n\n\nI think the GT-40 actually _is_ street legal, although that particular\nquestion is moot (see the price figures below).\n\n\nI wish I could find my Shelby-American guide; it included the GT-40\nregistry (as of '88 or so). There were precious few of them made \n(fifty is the number that springs to mind; they made just enough\nto qualify for the Manufacturer's Cup, or whichever series it\nwas that Shelby broke Ferarri's 13-year winning streak in in '65),\nand they are all accounted for. The last price I saw estimated on a\nGT-40 was a little bit over $1,000,000 (yes, that's right, ONE MILLION\nUS DOLLARS; it was second only to some worthless piece of Ferrari\nthat it would blow the doors off of ;-).\n\nI don't recall off-hand what the drive configuration was, although\nI'm certain some must have been LHD, as they had to be sold to qualify\nfor racing. The drivertrain was the Ford 427 (hi-riser, I think, \nand\/or side-oiler) coupled to various 4-speed transmissions. They\nalso used 3-speed manuals; they had lots of problems with the\noriginal trannys breaking under the load of the 427. Layout was\nrear-engine, rear-drive, with the \"bundle of snakes\" exhaust\nheaders...I can remeber other bits and pieces of info, but I\ncan't remember whether they applied to the GT-40 or the Shelby\nCobra Daytona Coupe...I'll try and find that reference.\n\n\t\t\t\tJames","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I bought a Yamaha XS850 with 8K miles.  Over the last 2 years, I've put 30K\nof commute miles onnit.  Valve adjustment intervals are suppossed to be every\n5K.  Well every 7.5K or so, I've checked the pad clearences, and they never\nchange!  If anything, the clearances seem to be getting a little smaller which\nmakes no sense to me with the pad system - the pads should wear until the\nclearances are too great right?  I know that threaded adjusters can tighten \nup, but I didn't think these kind could.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Article #61058 (61121 is last):\nFrom: redmond+@cs.cmu.edu (Redmond English)\nSubject: Diamond Stealth: HELP!\nDate: Wed Apr 21 16:54:39 1993\n\nHello,\n\n   I have a Diamond Stealth VRAM card (the older version\nwith the DIP switches on the back).  I have two problems:\n\n1 ) I've lost the manual!!!\n\n2 ) I have it in a machine with a network card, and\n    everything works fine until I run windows, when\n    the network connection dies.\n\n    (In case it's important, the network card is an\n     SMC ArcNet 8-Bit compatable card.  It's I\/O\n     address is 02E0 and it's RAM base address is\n     D000.  It's also using IRQ 2)\n\n\nShown 54%, press <SPACE> for more, 'q' to quit, or 'h' for help\n                                                                                \n    I believe there is a file on the Diamond Bboard that\nexplains how to sort this out, but with no manual, I don't\nknow the Bboard number.\n\n    If you can, please help me with as many of the following\nas possible:\n\na ) Send me the Diamond BBS number\nb ) E-mail (or post) the DIP switch settings for the card\n    (or fax them to me at (412) 521-8668)\nc ) Tell me what I'm doing wrong, so I can magicly get\n    everything working.\n\n    Any help at all would be much appreciated.\n\n                Thanks in advance,\n\n                       Red\/.\n\n\nEnd of File, Press RETURN to quit\n\n\n-------------------------------\nDate: Thu Apr 22 02:38:16 1993\nTo: redmond+@cs.cmu.edu\nSubject: Re: Diamond Stealth: HELP!\n\nDiamond BBS 2400 baud...1-408-730-1100...9600 baud 1-408-524-9301\nvoice 1-408-736-2000...fax 1-408-730-5750....Sam\n-------------------------------\nPress RETURN to continue: ","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
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{"text":"\n\tHe's 1\/2 liar, 1\/2 cheat and 1\/2 demagogue.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"Seeing as how _The_Two_Babylons_ has been brought up again, it is time for\nme to respond , once again, and say that this book is junk.  It is nothing\nmore that an anti-Catholic tract of the sort published ever since the there\nwere protestants.  Its scholarship is phony and its assertions spurious.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nHe's right ya know.  I've helped to install Dos 6 on about 4 computers now,\nmine included.  On one, he bought the Stacker to Doublespace converter,\nand it worked fine (rather, he sent in the coupon for the converter).\n\nIn other cases, I've run the doublespace installation without a problem\nwhen compressing a new drive, compressing free space, or whatever else.\nSeems to work for me.\n\n\nWell, I ran the normal SETUP thing and it worked fine for whatever that's\nworth.\n\n\nCouldn't agree more.  On my 486-50 I don't miss the speed.  It's still\nfaster than a normal disk read would be.  As for the less compression,\nI've sacrificed that in favor of the convenience of having the dblspace.bin\nload before anything else.  With Stacker, any changes to your config.sys\nor autoexec.bat meant rebooting twice so it could update those.\n\nPersonally, I'm waiting for Stacker 4.0 to come out and implement those\nhooks and stuff.  Plus, the DEFRAG that comes with DOS is okay, but I\nmuch prefer COMPRESS from PC-TOOLS for sheer bells and whistles.  Plus,\ndefrag is sooooo sloooow on a dblspace drive.\n\n\nDitto.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nActually it was in the third period, his return did bring a spark to the\ncrowd, and to the players, who played awesome defense in the third.\n\n\nYou forgot about Gretzky.  If any of these guys start scoring, the Kings\nwill be unstoppable, if they continue the great defensive work as well.\n\n\nStauber will be in net on Tuesday.  Hopefully he will provide another\nstellar performance and earn the name Robb \"Stopper\" Stauber.\n\n\nI believe this is how they are...I know it is Gretzky and Sandstrom, but he\nhas been putting a number of people on left.  Also the Carson, Robataille\nKurri line once ignited, will light the fire of the other lines.\n(Hopefully!)\n\nIt is evident that the scoring drought is getting to Luc, after his slight\nbreakaway in the third (I think) he was steamed on the bench, this emotion\nmight help him break his streak.  Also, I have noticed Blake has had a few\nreally good chances to score, but has fanned, or shot wide.  Is the injury\nstill affecting him?  \n\n\nThe E\n    D\n    G\n    E","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nExcuse me a moment when I laugh my head off...  I defy you to prove\nyour statement \"damaged and screwed up\".  You can't?  Oh dear.  Your\nargument, once again, Mr Logic(NOT!), falls flat on its face.\n\nTake a course in civil behaviour and logic.  Then come back and defend\nyour arguments.\n\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\tYou have underlined here the battle that must be fought.  It is\n\ta battle for the \"hearts and minds\" of the american public.\n\tPeople must realize that the government is not their a fit\n\t\"father confessor\".  The government does not have a right to\n\tshare our every thought the moment we decide to share that\n\tthought with someone else at a distance.  In order to protect\n\tourselves from a government bent on undermining the constitution\n\twe must realize that our government is our enemy as much if not\n\tmore than the Soviet Union ever was.  This is hard for \n\tsome people who have been brought up with loyalty to our government\n\tcast as being synonmous with patriotism.  \n\n\tWe must be vigilant and make sure that we do not let such\n\tevents go by unprotested.  We must be willing to fight the\n\tgovernment at every step of the way.  \n\n\tIts time we rolled back this nonsense.  Civil forfeiture is\n\tthe most effective end run around the constitution that has\n\tever been promulgated.  Our enemy used to be the Soviets now\n\tit is clearly our own government.  \n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"I have a Sherwood stereo receiver which I received as a gift, and would\nlike to sell, as I already own a system.  It is the Sherwood model RX-4010R\nIt is brand new, still factory sealed.  This is a high quality surround-\nsound amp ( 160 Watts, 250 Watts Dynamic Headroom Power ), very highly\nrated by Consumer Reports ( March, 1993 ).  Has 4 audio inputs, and Pre-amp\nand Main-amp connection jacks for added flexibility.  Includes 2-year\nfactory warranty.  Comes with remote. \n\nAsking $210 \n\nReply Subject: Receiver","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"<cpr@igc.apc.org> (in real life, Elias DAvidson) quotes\n\n\nA nutcase quoting a crackpot.\n\nNext time, post this to rec.humor, or perhaps alt.conspiracy.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nI disagree.  It think the average joe is interested\/curious about spaceflight\nbut sees it as an elitist activity.  Not one which he is ever going to\nparticipate in.\n\n\nWhy is the general public going to be interested in the technical details\nof long term space habitation?  I like the idea of the study, but it should\nbe released to other scientists and engineers who will be able to use it.\nIf you want a general public document, you'll need a more general publication.\n\n\nAs one working on Controlled Ecological Life Support Systems, engineering\nthe microworld isn't the problem.  The problem is understanding the basic\nchemical, biological and medical factors to be able to engineer them\nefficiently.  For example, the only way we know how to produce food is from\nplants and animals.  Food synthesis is not very far advanced.  So we have\nto orbit a farm.  Well that's obviously not very efficient, so we use \ntechnology to reduce the mass and grow plants hydroponically instead of \nusing dirt.  This is where the engineering comes in.  But new technologies\nbring new basic questions that we don't have the answers to.  Like, in \ndirt we can grow tomatoes and lettuce right beside each other, but in \nhydroponics it turns out that you can't do that.  The lettuce growth is \nstunted when it's grown in the same hydroponic solution as tomatoes.  So \nnow you have to consider what other plants are going to have similar\ninteractions.  This means some basic applied scientific research.  And that's\nwhat needs to be done with all technologies that have been developed so far.\nWe also need to find out how they interact together.  That's where we are now.\n\n\nFirst you need to do the literature search.  There is a lot of information\nout there.  Maybe we should just pick a specific area of long term habitation.\nThis could be useful, especially if we make it available on the net.  Then\nwe can look at methods of analyzing the technologies.\n\n\nUnless there is an unbelievable outpouring of interest on this on the net,\nI think we should develop a detailed data base of the literature search \nfirst.  Then if we accomplish that we can go on to real analysis.  The data\nbase itself could be useful for future engineers.\n\nThat's my response Ken, what do you think?","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nYes, and one thing to think about is the pricing on the 160M harddrive \nconfiguration.  When I got my lowly classic II, the options were 40 or 80M\nharddrives, and it was clear that buying another 40M of harddrive space \nwould cost *much* more than the difference in price between the two config-\nuartions.  There is an analogous break in the LCIII\/80 and 160 prices, and \nyou will not regret spending the extra money for a larger harddrive.  \n\nParticularly if you ever wind up wanting to use SoftPC, which sets up a\nseveral-MB (up to 30!) partition, or if you are generating large files \nwith DTP software, or if you might ever want to check out a mac unix-like \nos, like MachTen, having the extra space will be helpful.  when you are \npricing used IIci's, look at the harddrive size they come with, and how much\nit would cost you to add more storage down the road... (Might be a \nuseful bargaining strategy even if you see no reason to go over 80M, though\nI must admit that I am such a packrat that within 6 months of getting my \ncomputer, I was backing up a lot of stuff to floppies that I rarely use to \nbecause I was running out of space, without having started using DTP stuff, \nsoftPC or trying any unix os!)","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"While on my bike I wave to anyone who looks.  Sort of like the \"small town\"\nor \"wide open spaces\" type thing that someone from Louisiana mentioned. (Like\nwhen I'm in Arkansas or Helena MT.)  Kids are especially fun - both genders\n(Watch it Cliff!! :-) )  \n\nIn the cage I usually wave to bikers.  They usually don't wave back.  My wife\nthinks it's strange but I don't care.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Xsun won't come up in color w\/ this framebuffer! I am trying to use xkernel on\nsome of these 4\/110s I have a freshly built Statically linkes copy of Xsun\nthat works just fine on cg6, cg4, bw2 type of framebuffers, but on the 4\/110\nthat have this type of frame buffer all I get is Mono.\n\ncgtwo0 at vme24d16 0x400000 vec 0xa8 \ncgtwo0: Sun-3 color board, fast read\n\nHere is what I've tried.\n\nremoving all the other \/dev\/cg* , \/dev\/bw , and \/dev\/fb and then selectivly\nrecreating \/dev\/cgtwo0. Xsun comes up mono. recreating \/dev\/fb, comes up mono,\n\nI've tried Xsun & Xsun -dev \/dev\/cgtwo0.\n\nPS Xnews will come up in color but it's not statically linked, and the\ndynamically linked Xsun comes up in mono also.\n\nPPS Xsun was compiled on w\/ gcc 2.3.3 on a system running 4.1.3 and the 4\/110\nis also running 4.1.3.\n\nThanks n advance\n--\n\n- ..  the HIGHWAY is made out of LIME JELLO and my HONDA\n is a barbequeued OYSTER!  Yum!","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I am curious to known if there are any professional sports teams whose\ngames are regularly broadcast on an FM station.  The only one I am\naware of is WYSP in Philadelphia who carries the Eagles' games.\n\nIf you respond to me I will summarize for the list.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nIf anyone knows of such a site could they please send it to me also.\nthanks","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"...\n\nI had an ehum, interesting experience with the Rosicrucians, or at\nleast Rosicrucians of some sort last Sunday. They had advertised that\nthey were holding a lecture titled The Graal of the King -- the room\nof the heart (which rhymes in Swedish). Out of curiosity, I went to\nthe lecture.\n\nThere were four people there apart from the two Rosicrucians, one\nwoman and two men apart from me. The Rosicrucians were male, both of\nthem. First one of them told us about the Rosicrucians and Lectorium\nRosicrucianum, which was founded in Harlem, NL in 1925. He read\nstraight from a piece of paper, which I at that point was because he\nlacked experience in talking in front of people, but the other guy\nread, too, and he was used to holding speeches, I could tell. The\nfirst guy also said that the R:s are a mystical Christian order, and\nthat they base their teachings on the teachings of the Kathars\n(English?) from the thirteenth century.\n\nThe other guy took over, reading from his piece of paper in a\nfairy-tale teller's voice. What he said sounded like a load of crap to\nme. Of course that might be because I am unenlightened or something.\nWhat made me a bit suspicious, was the way they first said that we all\ncontained something divine, and could find our way back to divinity,\nthen that we couldn't become divine as the persons we are currently,\nbut if we worked really hard we would reach eternal bliss. Maybe I've\nread too much RAW, but it sounded very much like the things he talks\nabout in the chapter _How to robotize people and brainwash your\nfriends_ in _Prometheus rising_. \n\nIt was very interesting to watch the two Rosicrucians. The one holding\nthe actual lecture, obviously was top dog, and the other one seemed to\nbe a true believer. I got the impression that the top dog had more\ndistance to the faith than the true believer, that he used it to gain\npower and admiration. He spoke like a fairy-tale teller, whenever he\nremembered. ;)\n\nThe information brochure is at home. Should you want their address,\nplease e-mail me.\n--Ceci\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Pioneer CT-W601R Double Cassette Deck\n\n-Auto BLE Tuning\n-CD Deck Syncro Recording\n-music search, high speed dubbing, other standard features.\n\nLess than one year old. Excellent condition. $200 firm.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nAh - Palestine and the Arab Israeli conflict.  Sounds interesting.\n\n\nThis is misleading.  I supposed Charles D. Smith characterizes the bombing\nof the King David Hotel as a civilian installation too.  Any installation \nattacked by Etzel was linked to some sort of official function of the \nMandatory government.\n\n\nWhat kind of CIVILIANS?  I assume Charles D. Smith means completely innocent\npeople who were intentionally targeted, right?  Please provide examples.\n\n\nNice strawman.  In _The Revolt_ Begin does state that the *myth* of a massacre\nat Deir Yassin may have had the effect of scaring some Arabs into fleeing.\nHowever, nowhere does he claim that this was the result of any specific policy\nof the Etzel.  Thus, if it did happen, it was not so intended.  I think Arab \ncalls for Palestinians to leave and fear of a war started by Arab hands had \na greater effecton Arab migration than Deir Yassin.\n\nIn fact these jewish TERRORIST groups managed\n\nReally.  Nice use of caps.  I like it.  Very effective.  Actually, according to \nmany sources, including American diplomatic officials, the greatest encouragment\nfor Arabs to leave their villages came from Arab leaders.\n\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nI think it was the reverse, the V4 being 2\/3 of the V6.\n\n\nIt was also the worst engine that Ford (Europe) have ever made - bloody\nawful reputation. It's most successful application being the Transit\nvan.\n\nSaab gave up with this motor and then made the Triumph 1854 (half a Stag V8) under license (I believe), but with 2-litre capacity and perhaps a different\narrangement for the cylinder head studs, before developing their own straight \nfour from the Triumph.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nLuke 10:16-18\n\nHe that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth\n me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.\n\nAnd the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the\n devils are subject unto us through thy name.\n\nAnd he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nSome of us aren't that fucking stupid you cock sucking asshole.  That's why\nwe haven't had our own little DD suaree.  I'm soo impressed that you've had\nto spend your own precious little dollars  to make up for your own stupid\nact.  Now go fuck off.\n\n\n\nFriends killed by Drunk Driving Assholes like Andress Infante:  2\nChildren friends orphaned by Drunk Driving Assholes like Infante: 2\n\n\n\nNow who's the self-righteous asshole, you weak willed fuck head?\n\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nCOM files are limited to a total size of 64KB.  Thus, win.cfn plus vgalogo.log \nplus your RLE file must be less than 64KB.  Thus, your RLE file should be \naround 30KB.\n\nRob\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n____    ___   ____       \/    \\ Any resemblance between the above views and\n==================  \/ .clarku.edu  \\ want Clarkies to think about them.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\nThe first few times I pillioned someone whose safety was a great concern to\nme (as opposed to brothers, etc.), I almost got us both killed on several\noccasions.\n\nI was surprised to discover that it is much safer to just drive than to\ndistract yourself by trying to be unusually cautious and concerned.  Abruptly\nadopting a novel set of thought patterns and riding strategies while piloting\na bike is just asking for trouble.\n\n\n\n-- ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Why is Win 3.1 sometimes so finicky?\nI have a new DELL 486DX2\/66mhz  8 megs RAM.\nWindows was working just great.  I had a Bus mouse and mother board problem.\nDELL replaced the mouse, gave me a newer mouse driver for windows\nand replaced the motherboard.  Just prior to this problem windows would\n]only load up every other time.  I would get the LOGO and either it would\ngo on into windows or LOCK UP.  This was very consistent EVERY OTHER TIME.\n\nNow with the new motherboard and all, it still does the same thing.\nThe computer is less than one month old.  At first it worked FINE!\nI can get into windows each time now with the   win\/s command.\nThis forces Standard mode.  Things seem to run slower.  I mainly\nuse windows apps, but in standard mode there is no virtual mem.....\nplus it is slower.\n\nI re-loaded windows, it still does the same thing.  Should I first delete\neverything in all windows dir's?  I did not because I have so much \nadded in sub dir's etc.\n\nReally puzzling why ENHANCED MODE would not load each time but consistently\nevery other time.  Standard mode each time......\n\nANY THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS ???\n\nC-ya..... \/\\\/\\artin","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Three q's:\n\n1) is it reliable?\n\n2) how does it send the information from a MS Windows app over\nthe X11 protocol? Does it just draw everything as graphics into\none window, or does it use multiple windows and essentially work\nmore cleverly?\n\n3) If I want to run MS Word, for example, remotely, do I have to\nrun a separate copy of MS Windows remotely, and then start MS\nWord from that, or can MS Word be started remotely on its own?","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"Just curious, how would the Clipper Chip system handle\nconference calls?\n\n\n\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
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{"text":"\nBill, I think you have a misunderstanding about atheism. Lack of \nbelief in God does not directly imply lack of understanding\ntranscendental values. I hope you would accept the fact that \nfor instance Buddhists appreciate issues related to non-empirical\nreasoning without the need to automatically believe in theism.\n\nI think reading a couple of books related to Buddhism might \nrevise and fine tune your understanding of non-Christian systems.\n\nCheers,\nKent\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":": \tHow do you know what kind of gas to buy ? Depending on the compression\n: ratio of your engine I heard. Ok, but what kind of gas goes for what kind\n: of compression.\n: \n: \tI'm asking this because I used to put 87 in my Hawk GT and the other day,\n: I changed because I wanted to see if there was a difference. And I don't\n: know if I'm being subjective or what, but it seems like the bike runs\n: better !\n: \n\tRun your bike on the lowest octane that it will run smoothly on. \nHigher octane fuel is not \"better\" than lower octane gas. Pick up the last \nAmerican Roadracing magazine. There's a short article in there about \noctane and the misconceptions many people make about the subject. Look at\nyour owners manual. I believe it states 87 is just fine. \n\n ==============================================================================\n  Erik Astrup                  AFM #422                              DoD #683 \n\n  1993 CBR 900RR  *  1990 CBR 600  *  1990 Concours  *  1990 Ninja 250 ","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nAtomic Energy Commision - Hmm, they would say this.\n\nThe Earth may spew alot of substances into the atmosphere, but the quality \nof your toxic output can easily make up for the lack of quantity.  Furthermore, \nthe planet is a system of carbon, sulfur and other chemicals which have been\nacting for billions of years, we are but newcomers to the system - we must adapt\nand control in order to bring about stability.  Also, two wrongs do not make a right, \nso continuing our practices despite overwhelming data is just ignorance in (non)action.\n\n\nEducated and open minded environmentalists do not.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nI think all connections in Norway can handle touchtone dialing.\n\nThe Oslo-region has one system, the rest of the country another system.\n\n(Almost right for pulsdialing.)\nSome phones have a little switch inside, so you are able to use them\nall over Norway, or you can just renumber the numbers on your phone.\n\n\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"John Girash writes...\n\nYou can get WJR a LONG way away.  The problem is that, because of those\nwell known and beloved \"contractual obligations\", WJR will be doing\nTiger baseball instead of the Wings playoff games for probably half\nthe games the Wings could play.  For this series, I know tonight's\ngame and I believe games 5 and 6 (if necessay) will be bumped.\n\nRon","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":":       Since the law requires that wiretaps be requested by the Executive\n:Branch and approved by the Judicial Branch, it seems clear that one\n:of the key registering bodies should be under the control of the\n:Judicial Branch.  I suggest the Supreme Court, or, regionally, the\n:Courts of Appeal.  More specifically, the offices of their Clerks.\n\nI've got a better idea.  We give one set to the KGB c\/o Washington embassy,\nand the other set to the Red chinese.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Few simple points:  Leadership: You are responsible for all that your \n                      subordinates do or fail to do.\n\n                    Law: Any deaths that occur as a result or during the\n                       commision of a crime are a felony against whoever dies\n                       during the incident, and whoever committed the crime\n                       establishing the incident is chargable for MURDER ONE.\n                       This is how criminals are charged with murder for the\n                       deaths of bystanders from police stray rounds and such.\n                       Someone dying of a heart attack is also considered a\n                       murder one, if it is in a situation caused by a crime.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\nRobin Lane Fox is a historian and a gardener.  He has written several\nhistory books, perhaps a recent one you might remember is \"The Search\nfor Alexander\".  He has also written or edited several books on\ngardening.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"(...)\n(...)\n\nAtt man skulle bli tvyngen att {ndra premisserna kunde man inte lista\nut p} f|rhand. Huvudsak att man inte flyttar *ner* fel lag.\n\\stersund var en solklar fix som sagt, men V{stervik!! Att det beror p}\nNyk|ping tror jag inte p}, man kunde ju lika g{rna \"flytta ner\" Roma\ntill s|dra (iaf om man g}r efter bredgraderna). Mest r{ttvist vore att\nl}ta Tierp och V{stervik g|ra upp, men d} skulle Roma\/Nyk|pinks vara\neller inte vara i |stra ocks} avg|ras. Vad skulle de s{ga om det?\nDet st|rsta felet med }rets indelning {r *exakt* samma som f|rra }ret,\nfast v{rre. DET [R INTE R[TVIST INDELAT, sportligt sett. Vallentuna var\nen match fr}n att g} upp till Allsvenskan f|rra }ret ist{llet gick \nG{vle upp. Tror ni n}n av dem lyckas lika bra i }r?\nAIK, HIF, SSK och HIK ska sl}ss om tv} platser!! Om man hadde placerat\ndessa i var sin division skulle de vara sj{lvklara favoriter till en\nplats i Allsvenskan, men nu m}ste tv} ge vika. Var finns r{ttvisan i det?\n:-( Jag har h|rt att HIK har l{mnat in en protest till f|rbundet ang{ende\nindelningen i |stra.\nMitt f|rslag vore att l}ta 3:orna i varje division kvalspela om tv}\nplatser i Allsvenskan och efter jul skulle man kunna sl} ihop de fyra\ndivisionerna till tv}, en s|der och en norr. P} s} s{tt bestraffas inte\nett lag som kommer fr}n en trakt d}r det finns m{nga bra lag.\n\nEn kul grej som jag |nskar att man inf|rde {r att l}ta vinnaren i\nAllsvenskan f} spela i SM-slutspelet. Det skulle bli en extra krydda till\ndivision ett ishockeyn om lagen k{nde att de var \"inom r{ckh}ll\" till\nSM-bucklan. Det skulle kanske p} sikt ocks} kunna minska skillnaderna\nmellan lag i elitserien och division ett. Vad s{js?\n\n\n-- \n\n\n\/Marek\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\nMarek.Repinski@eos.ericsson.se | \"Man skall inte anv{nda fr{mmande      \n     Ericsson Telecom AB       |  ord om man har en adekvat inhemsk\n   System Design Division      |  vokabul{r disponibel\"\n        - Sweden -             |    Gunnar Emanuel Str{ng (1906-92)","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Where is the best place to find classified type ads for used PC's? \nSeveral other computer makes have their own \".wanted\" sections on the \nUsenet. What about PC's and compatibles? Where's the cheapest place \nnationally to buy used PC systems and laptops?\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
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{"text":": A woman once told me her doctor told her that I\n: could catch, asymptomatically, her yeast infection\n: from her, then give it back to her, causing\n: a relapse.\n\n: Probably bogus, but if not, it's another reason to use\n: latex...\n\n: Steve\n\nIt isn't bogus.  I had chronic vaginal yeast infections that would go away\nwith cream but reappear in about 2 weeks.  I had been on 3 rounds of\nantibiotics for a resistant sinus infection and my husband had been on\namoxicillin also for a sinus infection.  After six months of this, I went\nto a gynecologist who had me culture my husband seminal fluid.  After 7\ndays incubation he had quite a bit of yeast growth (it was confirmed by\nthe lab).  A round of Nizerol for him cleared both of us.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\n\nOk, so you have proven you saw the right stuff.  However, as I said above,\nit takes politics and PR to keep the bucks coming.\n\"No politics, no bucks, no buck rogers.\"\n \n\nYes this may be true in the case of the SCIENCE data coming from the spacecraft\nand other stuff about the operations.  However, there is still stuff regarding\nregular operation that belongs to the company and they have ever legal right\nto keeping it theirs.  But this does not mean that everything can or\nshould be swept under the umbrella of company proprietory data.\n \n\nYou can do the same here...you just have to wait a year.\n \n\nSafeguard internal company data are indeed supported by US law.  ","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Sorry about confusing subject\/summary\/keywords!!!\n\nI am a postgrad researcher in ESL\/applied linguistics at Edith Cowan\nUniversity in Perth Western Australia...\n\nI DESPERATELY need help!!! I need to record the results of word\nprocessing sessions in windows - so that I can sit down and replay the\nresults of my research subjects' wordprocessing behaviours -\nnaturally, I can do this with the Windows macrorecorder - and 2 or 3\nother apps in windows - BUT I CANNOT PAUSE\/RESUME!!!! - i.e. all I can\ndo is to ctrl\/break to get out - this is useless for a researcher who\nneeds to be able to pause the wordprocessing session he is replaying\nto make notes\/annotations - and then RESUME from where he left off...\n\nI am just about to commence my research for my Masters thesis and\nwould be EXTREMELY grateful for any assistance - if anyone can help\ncould they mail me at:\n\njohnoliver@odin.DIALix.oz.au\n\nMany thanks in advance...","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"I posted about a \"pulse of (relaxation) electricity\".  I now think\nit more like a pulse of \"relaxation\" or comfort than a pulse of\nelectricity.  It is what you feel if you are overwhelmed by a feeling\nof comfort, such as seeing or thinking about something beautiful.\n\n     Another thing.  When you sleep, you lie down facing up, with your\npalms aside of you and facing down on the surface of the bed.  Then you\nrelax, and there start involuntary nerve firings inside your flesh.  So,\nyou feel a \"shiver\" below the surface of the skin (not heart-beat).\nThen this shiver increases, and comes up to your head, and the roam you\nhear loudens.  (Note that you always hear a high-pitch when you lie down\nin bed; this is just the noise of your blood running in your ear.)  This\nroam is different from the high pitch, but follows the shiver of your\nbody.\n\n     \"Shiver\" is not the word.  It may be called a mild vibration or quake.\nWhat is this shiver and roam?  Can I use this to induce out-of-body\nexperience?","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nBut why McGwire, and not Carter?  I can see some justification for Bonds or\nThomas, because they tend to have higher batting averages, but the major\ndifference I see between McGwire and Carter is that Carter doesn't draw\nwalks.  Why aren't pitchers afraid to throw strikes to Carter?","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\"Freed om of Religion\" has absolutely nothing to do with building a small\narsenal and grooming 10-year old children to be your wife. \"I'll come out\nas soon as I finish my manuscript on the Seven Seals.\" Oh, OK, David.\n\nI agree that Koresh was as much of a victim as a perpetrator; this because\nhe grew up inside the cult, and engaged in a power struggle where his\nsupporters helped inflate his ego.\n\nThat doesn't change the fact that he was a loose fucking cannon with a\nshitload of serious weapons. Or that he was banging thirteen year olds and\ntwisting their impressionable little minds.\n\nThis was no MOVE fuck-up. A helicoptor was thermal-imaging the compound\nthat afternoon and detected three fires erupting almost simultaneously.\nThere were no CS CANISTERS... a specially modified Abrams was pupming the\nstuff in. No chance of starting a fire there. Kerosene lamps? Maybe one,\nbut not three fires. No way. Koresh wasn't just talking out of his ass. I\nexpected this to happen.\n\nMaybe they WANTED it to look like murder. He had 50+ days. I think this was\ncoming the whole time. He didn't even put the children in the buried bus or\nthe underground bunker during the CS seige. He put them up into the tower\nto die. Fuck all of you \"Big Brother\" paranoid freaks. The only good thing\nto come of any of this is that there will be one less group of crazoids to\nattract some of the more rootless members of our society.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
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{"text":"I was wondering if anyone has ever seen\/heard of a utility that converts\nany type of image format (gif,tiff,pcx,bmp,jpeg,etc.) to an ascii\nrepresentation.  I have seen some very sophiticated art in ascii format, but\nnever was I able to find the author or any program that may have converted\nthe data from a picture format.\n\nAny help or leads would be great. Thanks in advance.\nDanny Dunlavy","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Last week's MacWEEK article by Ric Ford indicated that David Ramsey's\nMac IIx has been running nicely with a Mac IIci ROM in it, offering\nclean 32-bit ROM code (liberating his IIx from the virtual memory\nnightmare caused by Apple's 32-bit System Enabler).\n\nDoes anyone know of a source for these ROMs?  Is it okay for a\nremanufacturer to resell only ROM chips from used machines?  I know that\ncopies cannot be made, but it seems to me that it would be okay to\nresell the original used ROM.  (After all, reselling a used computer\ninvolves the sale of the ROM anyway, so what's the difference?).\n\nNeedless to say, I'm interested in purchasing such a ROM.  What would\nbe a reasonably price to offer?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nMy reference is a 4 page essay in our local Star Tribute newspaper\nputting the whole conflict in perspective. I will readily admit\nthat I am no authority in this area; however, other posteers \nasserted that *some* Muslims did join hands with Croats and\nNazis in persecuting Serbs. In any case, past actions do not\nin any way validate or legitimize what is happending there now.\n\nI sincerely do apologize to the extent the author of the essay\nwas wrong in making the assertion he made. \n\nMaybe, some student of history may put this in perspective.\n\nSatya Prabhakar\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nYou should remember that in Adam's transgression, all men and women\nsinned, as Paul wrote.  All of humanity cooperativley reblled against\nGod in Adma's sin, thus, all are subject to it, and the sin is\ntransmitted from generation to generation.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\nI remember seeing it several months ago, and it was marked as a joke.\nFunny how things circulate!","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"By night I'm an Amiga user. By day I work with windows. I'd be much more \ncomfortable in windows if I had Two things.\n\n1. A good Personal information manager. You know- a calendar, address book,\nreminder list etc... rolled into one clean interface.\n\n2. A good file manager. Microsofts is very poor by my standards. How\nabout one that has a left and right window and allows file operations \nbetween them. being able to launch programs from the same interface\nwould be nice. as well as text reading and graphics viewing. Those\nwho are familiar with Directory Opus on the Amiga know what I'm\nlooking for.\n\nIf anyone can steer me towards an FTP sight with these programs it would\nmake my transition to windows a lot easier. Please reply via email\nas I rarely get to read this group. thanks so much!\n_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _\n                    | why would he be such a jerk? i know that he doesn't smoke \nsteve lombardi      | drugs. and he doesn't do cocaine. and he doesn't shoot \nstlombo@acm.rpi.edu | smack. and he doesn't even drink beer. Why would he be \n                    | such a fu*ker to me? --WEEN","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Is it ok to take the car out of gear without using the clutch\n(while the car is turned off)?\n\nThanks in advance.\n\nPlease reply by mail.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nYes, one does.  I examined a critique of the Book of Romans by\nI think, Benjamin Franklin once, a Deist.  I found it amazing that\nBenjamin Franklin missed the whole boat.   I also have the writings\non Thomas Jefferson sitting on my shelf, and it is amazing how\nmuch he missed.  I have studied Plato's Theory of Forms and \nAristotelian Hylomorphesism.  What a pile of junk.  Jesus\nmakes Plato and Aristotle look like kindergardeners.  Psychology,\nthe id, ego, superego by Freud?  Elements of truth, but Jesus\nexplained it far better and gave reasons.\n\nThomas Paine, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson are mere men.  They\ncan screw up the Bible just as well as any man.  I do not put these\nmen on a pedestal.  And if I remember T.J.'s autobiography correctly,\nhe thought Thomas Paine was the most unread man he ever met.\n\nHere's some more circular reasoning to you.  Paul says to the Corinthians\nthat \"that the gospel will be foolishness to the world, because it is \nspiritually discerned.\"  And so, people without the spirit of God haven't a\nclue to what the Bible is saying.   From your point of view, that's\nincredibly circular and convenient.   To me, it is mysteriously and supernaturally\nbizarre.   I can see it, but you can't.  This is not arrogance on\nmy part.  Trust me.  It is as bizarre to you as it is to me.  But nonetheless,\nit is a truth, explainable or not.\n\nAre any of you color blind to red and green?  I am.  Remember those\ndot tests they do at the optomologist's?  They put pictures in front\nof you and you are supposed to identify the pattern in the dots?  If\nyour eyes are perfectly normal, you can see letters or numerals\nembedded in the dots.  They are a slightly different color and stand\nout from the background.  But if you are color blind to red and green,\nyou will not see anything but gray-shaded dots.  That is how a dot\ntest appears to me.  I do not see a pattern at all.\n\nA normal seeing person will see the patterns.  And to him, I seem like a\ntotal anomaly.  To him, I appear as if I am missing the universe or something.\nIt is hard for him to understand why I can't see anything\nthat to him is as plain as day.\n\nThat it what it is like with the Bible, the Word of God, to the believer.\nThe believer can see the meaning in the words.  I can see how the patterns\nfit together.  There is such depth.  Such consistency.   But then, on the\nother hand, I notice the non-believer.   He doesn't see it.  He thinks\nI am weird because he thinks I am seeing things.   I look at him, and\nsay, \"No, you are weird.  You do not see.\"   Then it is time for a sanity\ncheck.  I go to another Christian and say, \"Do you see this.\"  And\nthey go, \"Yes.  It is an \"X\"\".  And I say, \"Thank God, I see the \"X\"\ntoo.\"\n\nIt is truly the strangest thing.   It adds a little extra dimension to\nthe phrase, \n\n         \"He will make the blind see, and the deaf hear.\"\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Photographic SPRING CLEANING!  Following is partial list, with more\nto come soon:\n\n-for EXAKTA:\tTessar 2.8\/50 lens, plus front cap, case\n\t\tMeyer Oreston 1.9\/50 lens, plus front cap\n\t\tSpiratone TelXtender Model II, plus orig case\n\t\tPiesker & Co. (Berlin) extension bellows (4x-12x),\n\t\t  in orig. box.\n\n\t\tEntire package for $30. plus shipping.\n\n-for PENTAX or other \"universal\" screw-mount cameras:\n\t\tSpiratone 3.5\/35 lens, plus caps\n\t\tFujinon 1.8\/55 lens, orig. case\n\t\tAetna Coligon 2.8\/135 lens, plus caps\n\n\t\tEntire package $25. plus shipping.\n\n-enlarging lenses:\n\t\tPrinz 4.5\/150\t   \t\t$10.\n\t\tEl-Nikkor 4.0\/50\t\t$45.\n\t\tRodenstock Ysaron 4.5\/150\t$75.\n\n-Busch Pressman Model C, 2-1\/4 x 3-1\/4\n\t\twith Wollensak Velostigmat 4.5\/101 in Rapax shutter,  $85.\n\n-Hexacon SLR, with Tessar 2.8\/50, plus case. Shutter is sluggish, but\n\t\tit's a \"collectible\", thus\t$25.\n\n-Rolleicord V, Synchro-Compur, Xenar 3.5\/75, with case, orig. lens cap.\n\t\tSome fool got oil on the shutter blades, so shutter is\n\t\tsluggish.\t\t\t$60.\n\n-Olympus om2-N body, oil (?) in viewfinder, appears to work fine other-\n               wise. No lens.          \t\t$75.\n\n-Cotact printing frame, 35mm, 6 strips of 6@, lockdown plate-glass cover,\n\t\texcellent condition.\t\t$10.\n\n-Omega S.S. developing tank, (2) 35 mm reels\t$12.\n\n-Nikkor S.S. developing tank, (7) 120 reels\t$45.\n\n-Kodak Polycontrast filter set\t\t\t$10.\n\nPrices above exclusive of shipping.  Conserve bandwith and don't come\nback with petty offers...    \n\nHOWEVER, I will consider trades of \"interesting\" EXAKTA equipment for, or\ntoward, any of the above.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"My roommate left me his Playboy collection which he no longer wants, so I'm\noffering them to the general public.  (THAT'S YOU!)\n\n    MAKE AN OFFER FOR THE *ENTIRE COLLECTION*\n\n    ** The Current Best Offer is $40 + shipping **\n\n    I will accept the best offer.\n    (Offer does *NOT* include cheapest method of shipping from Bethlehem, PA)\n\n1992:\n    February    (Supermodel Rachel Williams, World Tour, & POM Tanya Beyer)\n\n1991:\n    May         (Shannon & Tracy Tweed & POM Carrie Jean Yazel)\n    July        (Tall girls, Miss Bulgaria, & POM Wendy Kaye)\n    September   (Barbi twins & POM Samantha Dorman)\n    November    (La Toya Jackson & POM Tonja Marie Christensen)\n    December    (Dian Parkinson from \"The Price is Right\" & POM Wendy Hamilton)\n\n1990:\n    July        (Sharon Stone, Marilyn look-alike, & POM Jacqueline Sheen)\n    October     (Girls of the Big West, Gladiator Marisa Pare, & POM Brittany\n                 York)\n    November    (Teri Copley from \"We Got It Made\", Sex in Cinema, & POM\n                 Lorraine Olivia, stewardess)\n\n1989:\n    January     (35th Anniversary Issue - Collector's Edition)\n    February    (Year in Sex, Rio's Grand, & POM Simone Eden)\n    March       (La Toya Jackson & POM Laurie Wood)\n    August      (Women of Wall St., Diana Lee from \"License to Kill\", & POM\n                 Gianna Amore)\n    November    (Donna Mills, Sex in Cinema '89, & POM Renee Tenison)\n\n1988:\n    August      (Sunshine Girls & POM Helle Michaelsen)\n    October     (Girls of the Southwest Conference & POM Shannon Long)\n    November    (Women of Washington, Sex in Cinema '88, & POM Pia Reyes)\n    December    (Playmate Review, Sex Stars of '88, Lysette Anthony, & POM\n                 Kata Karkkainen)\n\n1987:\n    November    (Jessica Hahn, Sex in Cinema '87, & POM Pam Stein)\n\nAlso:  *** Special Edition:  \"Playboy Presents:  100 Beautiful Women\" ***\n-- ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n   What *exactly* does the American Constitution say about \"the right \nto association\" ? \n   Homosexuals, whether Clayton likes it or not, are as much members\nof society as he is. As such they have the right to participate and\nhave an equal opportunity to pursue their goals.\n   No-one is saying that Clayton should be forced to associate with\nqueerfolk in his private life (one suspects the gays in question would\nobject also 8-) ), but by proclaiming the general right not to associate\nwith them in the *public* sphere (which includes housing, hiring, etc),\nhe's giving his right to non-association priority over their rights to\nequal access to opportunity.\n   Historically, people can associate publically with disliked groups\nwith very little ill-effect, however cutting a group off from normal\ncommerce has a severe impact on their lives.\n   Clayton, why exactly should your \"right\" to non-association in the\npublic sphere take priority over homosexual's rights to equal opportunity ?\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nAs long as a player is under contract to an organization, he is obligated to\nplay only where that organization tells him to play or gives him permission\nto play. The Rangers are certainly within their rights to force Zubov and\nAndersson to report to Binghampton. \n\nIt certainly does reflect a lack of class on the part of the Ranger \norganization, however. Is having Binghampton win the Calder Cup really more\nimportant to them than keeping their players happy? ","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Any utility that let you remap the keyboard under MS Win?","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nI think one only needs to scan Mr. Davidsson's bibliography to see what kind\nof objective sources he uses.  ","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\nSounds great.  But how would something like this be done?  Start up a\nnews group for discussions of things like lobbying tecniques and how to\nget non-computer geeks as pissed-off as we are?","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\tMind posting those to the euro archive?  We have a directory\n\tspecifically for BMWs.\n\n\tftp:  134.29.65.5  (Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU)\n user: euro\n pass: spooge\n cd bmw\n\nget and put as you please.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"Have the rules for goalies' equipment changed? It seems that e.g. glove\nhas become bigger and bigger all the time (and pads too), and the goalies are\nwearing \"over size\" jerseys. Am I dreaming? If you watch old photos or\nfilms let say about ten years back, I think the difference is quite obvious.\nWho is an expert on this, please let me know. (Or have the goalies become\nbigger?)","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nAND the first team in the majors to win 10 games! Yes! It'll never last, but\nGod it's good while it's here!\n\n\nWell, there's a holiday in Massachusetts called Patriots' Day. Three things\nhappen on Patriots' Day: almost all businesses are closed, the Sox play a\nmorning game, and they run the Boston Marathon.\n\n Mike Jones | AIX High-End Development | mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\tWell, I know of one hack to sort of do this conversion.  First\nget ghostscript and check out the gs_2asc.ps file that comes with it.\nIt prints out some information about where each text string goes on the\npage, and maintains page counts.  I've written a little C program to\nmassage the output of gs -dNODISPLAY gs_2asc.ps somewhat, so that you\ncan get all the ascii strings in the document.  No guarantees that it\nwon't break up words\/sentences, though - I've used it with varying\ndegrees of success.  Anyways, try this out, it may do what you want.\n\n\/*\n * massager: a filter for use with gs; does crude Postscript->ASCII conversion\n *\n * Usage:\n *\tcat file.ps | gs -dNODISPLAY gs_2asc.ps - | massager\n *\n * I print a <Ctrl-L> after each new page.\n *\n * Put the following source into massager.c and compile it:\n *\/\n\n#include <stdio.h>\n#include <string.h>\n\nmain()\n{\n\tchar\tline[1000], *p;\n\n\twhile (fgets(line, sizeof(line), stdin) != NULL)\n\t\tif (line[0] == 'P')\n\t\t\tprintf(\"\\f\\n\");\n\t\telse if (line[0] == 'S' && line[1] == ' ') {\n\t\t\tif ((p = strrchr(line, ')')) == NULL)\n\t\t\t\tcontinue;\n\t\t\t*p = '\\0';\n\t\t\tif ((p = strchr(line, '(')) == NULL)\n\t\t\t\tcontinue;\n\t\t\tfor (p++; *p; p++)\n\t\t\t\tif (*p != '\\\\' || (p[1] != ')' && p[1] != '('))\n\t\t\t\t\tputchar(*p);\n\t\t\tputchar('\\n');\n\t\t}\n\n\treturn(0);\n}\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I received a fax of a letter from Representative Markey (Subcommittee on \nTelecommunications and Finance) to Ron Brown (Secretary of Commerce).  Since \nencryption and the Clipper chip are raised in this letter, I felt it would be\nof interest.  I understand that on 29 April, Mr. Markey will be holding a\nhearing on the questions raised in this letter.  There may also be a follow-on\nhearing dedicated to the clipper chip, but that's not definite.\n\nI've typed in the letter, which follows.  Any errors in transcription are \nmine...\n\n---\nGlenn Tenney\ntenney@netcom.com            Amateur radio: AA6ER\nVoice: (415) 574-3420        Fax: (415) 574-0546\n\n------------------ letter of interest follows ----------------\n\nApril 19, 1993\n\nThe Honorable Ronald H. Brown\nSecretary\nDepartment of Commerce\n14th and Pennsylvania Ave., NW\nWashington, DC 20236\n\nDear Secretary Brown:\n\n   As you know, I have long been interested in the privacy \nand security of telecommunications transmissions and data in \na networked environment.  Recent reports concerning the \nAdministration's endorsement of an electronic encryption \nstandard, based upon \"clipper chip\" technology, have raised a \nnumber of related issues.  The international competitiveness \nof U.S. high tech manufacturers and the software industry is \na key factor that the government should consider when \naddressing issues of encryption and data security.  As the \nnation moves forward in developing the national \ncommunications and information infrastructure, security of \ntelecommunications transmissions and network data will be an \nincreasingly important factor for protecting the privacy of \nusers.\n\n   The \"hacker\" community can compromise the integrity of \ntelecommunications transmissions and databases linked by the \nnetwork.  The people and businesses that use the nation's \ntelecommunications network and the personal computers linked \nthrough it increasingly are demanding that information be \nprotected against unauthorized access, alteration, and theft.\n\n   I am concerned that the Administration's plan may mean \nthat to remain competitive internationally, U.S. companies \nwould be compelled to develop two products -- one for U.S. \ngovernment customers, and another for private, commercial \nusers who may want a higher encryption standard.  This may \ninadvertently increase costs to those U.S. companies hoping \nto serve both markets.  To assist the Subcommittee's analysis \nof this issue, please respond to the following questions:\n\n1. Has the encryption algorithm or standard endorsed by the \nAdministration been tested by any entity other than NSA, NIST \nor the vendor?  If so, please identify such entities and the \nnature of testing performed.  If not, please describe any \nplans to have the algorithm tested by outside experts and how \nsuch experts will be chosen.\n\n2. Under the Administration's plan, what entities will be the \nholders of the \"keys\" to decrypt scrambled data?  What \nprocedures or criteria will the Administration utilize to \ndesignate such key holders?\n\n3. Does the encryption algorithm endorsed by the \nAdministration contain a \"trap door\" or \"back door,\" which \ncould allow an agency or entity of the Federal government to \ncrack the code?\n\n4. It is clear that over time, changes in technologies used \nfor communications will require new techniques and additional \nequipment.  How will encryption devices adapt to the rapid \nadvancement of telecommunications technology?\n\n5. What additional costs would the proposed encryption place \non the Federal government?  What is the estimated cost to \nconsumers and businesses which opt for the federal standard \nin their equipment?\n\n6. What is the Commerce Department's assessment of the \ncompetitive impact of the Administration's endorsement of the \n\"clipper chip\" technology on U.S. exports of computer and \ntelecommunications hardware and software products?\n\n   I would appreciate your response by no later than close-\nof-business, Wednesday, April 28, 1993.  If you have any \nquestions, please have your staff contact Colin Crowell or \nKaren Colannino of the Subcommittee staff at (202) 226-2424.\n\nSincerely,\n\nEdward J. Markey\nChairman\n\n###","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n\n\n     So could the defenders in the Alamo.  You're clearly missing the\n     point here.  Typically, I might add.\n\n     If it were me, I doubt that *I* would have come out.\n\n     BATF show up, start shooting at me, etc.  Then they paint me\n     a child-molesting murdering fanatic, call up TANKS, hundreds\n     of automatic-armed goons.  Restrict press access to two miles\n     away.  ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Shaz,\n\nHmm.. but the service indicators that I have works this way:\n  There are 5 green,1 yellow, 1 red indicators.\n  initially all green indicators will be on for few minutes when you start\n  your car. The computer will actually \"sense\" how you drive your car and\n  as time goes by the green indicators will start to go off one by one and\n  then the yellow indicator will turn on and then the red indicator will go\n  on. And you should get service when by the time green indicators are off.\n  \n  After service the mechanic(or you) will reset the service indicators and the\n  computer starts counting again.\n\nSo I expect to have a tool(or a procedure) to reset it so the green lights will \ncome on and the yellow and red lights will go off.\n\nI wonder how people can do oil change themself without knowing how to reset the\nindicator.\n\nIt's the first european car I have and changing oil at 15,000 miles is a \nsurprise to me. and it's a big plus :-). But I wonder how that could happen\nsince the oil lose its lubrication ability over time, I thought it's the oil and\nnot the vehicle that determines how often we should change oil.\n\nAny BMW owner on the net? Response welcomed.\n\nPS.  my initial question is \"how do you seset the service indicator of a BMW\"","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\n\"Hate messages\" rather than \"facts\"? Sorry, but your argument falls\nflat on its face.\n\n\n SOME OF THE REFERENCES FROM EMINENT AUTHORS IN THE FIELD OF MIDDLE-EASTERN\n HISTORY AND EYEWITNESSES OF THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE OF 2.5 MILLION MUSLIMS\n\n1. \"The Armenian Revolutionary Movement\" by Louise Nalbandian,\n   University of California Press, Berkeley, Los Angeles, 1975\n\n2. \"Diplomacy of Imperialism 1890-1902\" by William I. Lenger, Professor\n   of History, Harward University, Boston, Alfred A. Knopt, New York, 1951\n\n3. \"Turkey in Europe\" by Sir Charles Elliot, \n   Edward & Arnold, London, 1900\n\n4. \"The Chatnam House Version and Other Middle-Eastern Studies\" by\n   Elie Kedouri, Praeger Publishers, New York, Washington, 1972\n\n5. \"The Rising Crescent\" by Ernest Jackh,\n   Farrar & Reinhart, Inc., New York & Toronto, 1944\n\n6. \"Spiritual and Political Evolutions in Islam\" by Felix Valyi,\n   Mogan, Paul, Trench & Truebner & Co., London, 1925\n\n7. \"The Struggle for Power in Moslem Asia\" by E. Alexander Powell,\n   The Century Co., New York, London, 1924\n\n8. \"Struggle for Transcaucasia\" by Feruz Kazemzadeh,\n   Yale University Press, New Haven, Conn., 1951\n\n9. \"History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey\" (2 volumes) by\n   Stanford J. Shaw, Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, New York,\n   Melbourne, 1977\n\n10.\"The Western Question in Greece and Turkey\" by Arnold J. Toynbee,\n   Constable & Co., Ltd., London, Bombay & Sydney, 1922\n\n11.\"The Caliph's Last Heritage\" by Sir Mark Sykes,\n   Macmillan & Co., London, 1915\n\n12.\"Men Are Like That\" by Leonard A. Hartill,\n   Bobbs Co., Indianapolis, 1928\n\n13.\"Adventures in the Near East, 1918-22\" by A. Rawlinson,\n   Dodd, Meade & Co., 1925\n\n14.\"World Alive, A Personal Story\" by Robert Dunn,\n   Crown Publishers, Inc., New York, 1952\n\n15.\"From Sardarapat to Serves and Lousanne\" by Avetis Aharonian,\n   The Armenian Review Magazine, Volume 15 (Fall 1962) through 17 \n   (Spring 1964)\n\n16.\"Armenia on the Road to Independence\" by Richard G. Hovanessian,\n   University of California Press, Berkeley, California, 1967\n\n17.\"The Rebirth of Turkey\" by Clair Price,\n   Thomas Seltzer, New York, 1923\n\n18.\"Caucasian Battlefields\" by W. B. Allen & Paul Muratoff,\n   Cambridge, 1953\n\n19.\"Partition of Turkey\" by Harry N. Howard,\n   H. Fertig, New York, 1966\n   \n20.\"The King-Crane Commission\" by Harry N. Howard,\n   Beirut, 1963\n\n21.\"United States Policy and Partition of Turkey\" by Laurence Evans,\n   John Hopkins University Press, Baltimore, 1965\n\n22.\"British Documents Related to Turkish War of Independence\" by Gothard \n   Jaeschke\n     \n1. Neside Kerem Demir, \"Bir Sehid Anasina Tarihin Soyledikleri: \n   Turkiye'nin Ermeni Meselesi,\" Hulbe Basim ve Yayin T.A.S., \n   Ankara, 1982. (Ingilizce Birinci Baski: 1980, \"The Armenian \n   Question in Turkey\")\n\n2. Veysel Eroglu, \"Ermeni Mezalimi,\" Sebil Yayinevi, Istanbul, 1978.\n\n3. A. Alper Gazigiray, \"Osmanlilardan Gunumuze Kadar Vesikalarla Ermeni\n   Teroru'nun Kaynaklari,\" Gozen Kitabevi, Istanbul, 1982.\n\n4. Dr. Kirzioglu M. Fahrettin, \"Kars Ili ve Cevresinde Ermeni Mezalimi,\"\n   Kardes Matbaasi, Ankara, 1970. \n\nT.C. Basbakanlik Osmanli Arsivi, Babiali, Istanbul:\n\na) Yildiz Esas Evraki\nb) Yildiz Perakende\nc) Irade Defterleri\nd) Cemaat-i Gayr-i Muslime Defterleri\ne) Meclisi Vukela Mazbatalari\nf) Dahiliye Nezareti, Kalem-i Mahsus Dosyalari\ng) Dahiliye Nezareti, Sifre Defterleri\nh) Babiali Evrak Odasi: Siyasi Kartonlar\ni) Babiali Evrak Odasi: Muhimme Kartonlari\n\nT.C. Disisleri Bakanligi, Hazine-i Evrak, Defterdarlik  \n\na) Harb-i Umumi\nb) Muteferrik Kartonlar\n\nBritish Archives:\n\na) Parliamentary Papers (Hansard): Commons\/Lords\nb) Foreign Office: Confidential Print: Various Collections\nc) Foreign Office: 424\/239-253: Turkey: Correspondence - Annual Reports\nd) Foreign Office: 608\ne) Foreign Office: 371, Political Intelligence: General Correspondence\nf) Foreign Office: 800\/240, Ryan Papers\ng) Foreign Office: 800\/151, Curzon Papers\nh) Foreign Office: 839: The Eastern Conference: Lausanne. 53 files\n\nIndia Office Records and Library, Blackfriars Road, London.\n\na) L\/Political and Security\/10\/851-855 (five boxes), \"Turkey: Treaty of\n   Peace: 1918-1923\"\nb) L\/P & S\/10\/1031, \"Near East: Turkey and Greece: Lausanne Conference,\n   1921-1923\"\nc) L\/P & S\/11\/154\nd) L\/P & S\/11\/1031\n\nFrench Archives\n\nArchives du ministere des Affaires entrangeres, Quai d'Orsay, Paris.\n\na) Documents Diplomatiques: Affaires Armeniens: 1895-1914 Collections\nb) Guerre: 1914-1918: Turquie: Legion d'Orient.\nc) Levant, 1918-1929: Armenie.\n\n\nOfficial Publications, Published Documents, Diplomatic Correspondence,\nAgreements, Minutes and Others\n\nA. Turkey (The Ottoman Empire and The Republic of Turkey)\n\nAkarli, E. (ed.); \"Belgelerle Tanzimat,\" (istanbul, 1978).\n(Gn. Kur., ATASE); \"Askeri Tarih Belgeleri Dergisi,\" V. XXXI (81),\n(Dec. 1982).\n----; \"Askeri Tarih Belgeleri Dergisi,\" V. XXXII (83),\n(Dec. 1983).\nHocaoglu, M. (ed.); \"Ittihad-i Anasir-i Osmaniye Heyeti Nizamnamesi,\"\n(Istanbul, 1912).\nMeray, S. L. (trans.\/ed.) \"Lozan Baris Konferansi: Tutanaklar-Belgeler,\"\n(Ankara, 1978), 2 vols.\nMeray, S. L.\/O. Olcay (ed.); \"Osmanli Imparatorlugu'nun Cokus Belgeleri;\nMondros Birakismasi, Sevr Andlasmasi, Ilgili Belgeler,\" (Ankara, 1977).\n(Osmanli Devleti, Dahiliye Nezareti); \"Aspirations et Agissements \nRevolutionnaires des Comites Armeniens avant et apres la proclamation\nde la Constitution Ottomane,\" (Istanbul, 1917).\n----; \"Ermeni Komitelerinin Amal ve Hareket-i Ihtilaliyesi: Ilan-i\nMesrutiyetten Evvel ve Sonra,\" (Istanbul, 1916).\n----; \"Idare-i Umumiye ve Vilayet Kanunu,\" (Istanbul, 1913).\n----; \"Muharrerat-i Umumiye Mecmuasi, V. I (Istanbul, 1914).\n----; \"Muharrerat-i Umumiye Mecmuasi, V. II (Istanbul, 1915).\n----; \"Muharrerat-i Umumiye Mecmuasi, V. III (Istanbul, 1916).\n----; \"Muharrerat-i Umumiye Mecmuasi, V. IV (Istanbul, 1917).\n(Osmanli Devleti, Hariciye Nezareti); \"Imtiyazat-i Ecnebiyye'nin\nLagvindan Dolayi Memurine Teblig Olunacak Talimatname,\" (Istanbul, 1915).\n(Osmanli Devleti, Harbiye Nezareti); \"Islam Ahalinin Ducar Olduklari\nMezalim Hakkinda Vesaike Mustenid Malumat,\" (Istanbul, 1919).\n----; (IV. Ordu) \"Aliye Divan-i Harbi Orfisinde Tedkik Olunan Mesele-yi\nSiyasiye Hakkinda Izahat,\" (Istanbul, 1916).\nTurkozu, H. K. (ed.); \"Osmanli ve Sovyet Belgeleriyle Ermeni Mezalimi,\"\n(Ankara, 1982).\n----; \"Turkiye Buyuk Millet Meclisi Gizli Celse Zabitlari,\" (Ankara, 1985),\n4 vols.\n\nRussia\n\nAdamof, E. E. (ed.); \"Sovyet Devlet Arsivi Belgeleriyle Anadolu'nun \nTaksimi Plani,\" (tran. H. Rahmi, ed. H. Mutlucag), (Istanbul, 1972).\n\nAltinay, A. R.; \"Iki Komite - Iki Kital,\" (Istanbul, 1919).\n----; \"Kafkas Yollarinda Hatiralar ve Tahassusler,\" (Istanbul, 1919).\n----; \"Turkiye'de Katolik Propagandasi,\" Turk tarihi Encumeni Mecmuasi,\nV. XIV\/82-5 (Sept. 1924).\nAsaf Muammer; \"Harb ve Mesulleri,\" (Istanbul, 1918).\nAkboy, C.; \"Birinci Dunya Harbinde Turk Harbi, V. I: Osmanli Imparatorlugu'nun\nSiyasi ve Askeri Hazirliklari ve Harbe Girisi,\" (Gn. Kur., Ankara, 1970).\nAkgun, S.; \"General Harbord'un Anadolu Gezisi ve (Ermeni Meselesi'ne Dair)\nRaporu: Kurtulus Savasi Baslangicinda,\" (Istanbul, 1981).\nAkin, I.; \"Turk Devrim Tarihi,\" (Istanbul, 1983).\nAksin, S.; \"Jon Turkler ve Ittihad ve Terakki,\" (Istanbul, 1976).\nBasar, Z. (ed.);\"Ermenilerden Gorduklerimiz,\" (Ankara, 1974).\n----; \"Ermeniler Hakkinda Makaleler - Derlemeler,\" (Ankara, 1978).\nBelen, F.; \"Birinci Dunya Harbinde Turk Harbi,\" (Ankara, 1964).\nDeliorman, A.; \"Turklere Karsi Ermeni Komitecileri,\" (Istanbul, 1980).\nEge, N. N. (ed.); \"Prens Sabahaddin: Hayati ve Ilmi Mudafaalari,\"\n(Istanbul, 1977).\nErcikan, A.; \"Ermenilerin Bizans ve Osmanli Imparatorluklarindaki Rolleri,\"\n(Ankara, 1949).\nGurun, K.; 'Ermeni Sorunu yahut bir sorun nasil yaratilir?', \"Turk Tarihinde\nErmeniler Sempozyumu,\" (Izmir, 1983).\nHocaoglu, M.; \"Arsiv Vesikalariyla Tarihte Ermeni Mezalimi ve Ermeniler,\"\n(Istanbul, 1976).\nKaral, E. S.; \"Osmanli Tarihi,\" V. V (1983, 4th ed.); V. VI (1976, 2nd ed.);\nV. VII (1977, 2nd ed.); V. VIII (1983, 2nd ed.) Ankara.\nKurat, Y. T.; \"Osmanli Imparatorlugu'nun Paylasilmasi,\" (Ankara, 1976).\nOrel, S.\/S. Yuca; \"Ermenilerce Talat Pasa'ya Atfedilen Telgraflarin\nIcyuzu,\" (Ankara, 1983). [Also in English translation.]\nAhmad, F.; \"The Young Turks: The Committee of Union and Progress in\nTurkish Politics,\" (Oxford, 1969).\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nI am not sure about this, but I believe that Analog Devices in Norwood,\nMA makes a relatively inexpensive acceleration sensor (primarily for\nuse in auto air-bag systems). I do not know specs or anything else, but\nyou might give them a call to find out more info.\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tZ\n\n\n-- \n-------------------------------------------------------------------------","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"[story deleted]\n\nLet me give you another story that actually happened to ME.  We sell\ncommunications boards that use a 68000.  They used to be high tech. Our\nagent in the UK sold a system to a company in CH which packaged it in a\nproduct for CZ (London-Bern-Prague).  I telexed the Brits and told them\nthe Swiss need to pass export paperwork through the US as, at the time,\nyou needed an export lisence for these systems.\n\nNow I knew the NSA was watching this traffic (just like they are watching\nTHIS traffic.)\n\nAnd what do you know... two weeks later an agent of the US government shows\nup in my office to remind me if we or our agents sold systems into the Evil\nEmpire, we had better make sure the export lisences were handled properly.\n\nHe was part of a FIVE man office in COLUMBUS OHIO!! who did this stuff\nbased on sources he could not reveal. (I assume most of the time these\nguys sat around the office with their thumbs up their ass as there isn't\nthat much stuff coming out of Columbus :)\n\nWow, the electric utility in Prague sure is a big worry for these folks :)\n\nThe point is, we have created a giant bureaucracy (NSA) with a budget\nbigger than the CIA's who, like all bureaucracies, fill their time looking\nfor things to do.  The Evil Empire is gone.  The NSA is not.  They will do\nsomething to fill their time and justify their budgets.  (I just wish they\ntoo would sit around with their thumbs up their ass... but that is too\nmuch to hope for... they will spy on us and do things like skipjack and\nsubvert people like Dorothy Denning.)  Sigh...","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\n   Could someone explain where these names come from?   I'm sure there's a \n   perfectly good reason to name a planetoid \"Smiley,\" but I'm equally sure \n   that I don't know what that reason is.\n\nRead John le Carre's \"Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy\", \"The Honorable Schoolboy\"\nor \"Smiley's People\".","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"#[reply to frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer)]\n# \n#>>The problem for the objectivist is to determine the status of moral\n#>>truths and the method by which they can be established.  If we accept\n#>>that such judgements are not reports of what is but only relate to\n#>>what ought to be (see naturalistic fallacy) then they cannot be proved\n#>>by any facts about the nature of the world.\n# \n#>This can be avoided in at least two ways: (1) By leaving the Good\n#>undefined, since anyone who claims that they do not know what it is is\n#>either lying or so out of touch with humanity as to be undeserving of a\n#>reply.\n# \n#If the Good is undefined (undefinable?) but you require of everyone that\n#they know innately what is right, you are back to subjectivism.\n\nNo, and begging the question.  see below.\n\n#>(2) By defining the Good solely in terms of evaluative terms.\n# \n#Ditto here.  An evaluative statement implies a value judgement on the\n#part of the person making it.\n\nAgain, incorrect, and question-begging.  See below.\n#\n#>>At this point the objectivist may talk of 'self-evident truths'\n# \n#Pretty perceptive, that Prof. Flew.\n# \n#>>but can he deny the subjectivist's claim that self-evidence is in the\n#>>mind of the beholder?\n# \n#>Of course; by denying that subject\/object is true dichotomy.\n# \n#Please explain how this helps.  I don't see your argument.\n\nI don't see yours.  It seems to rest on the assertion that everything\nis either a subject or an object.  There's nothing compelling about that\ndichotomy.  I might just as well divide the world into subject,object,\nevent.  It even seems more sensible.  Causation, for example, is\nan event, not a subject or an object.  \n\nFurthermore, if subject\/object were true dichotomy, i.e.\n\n\tEverything is either a subject or an object\n\nThen, is that statement a self-evident truth or not?  If so, then it's \nall in the mind of the beholder, according to the relativist, and hardly \ncompelling.  Add to that the fact that the world can quickly be shoved\nin its entirety into the \"subjective\" category by an idealist or \nsolipsist argument, and that we have this perfectly good alternate\nset of categories (subject, object, event) [which can be reduced\nto (subject, object, quality) without any logical difficulty] and why\nyes, I guess I *am* denying that self-evident truths are all in the mind of \nthe beholder.\n\n#>>If not, what is left of the claim that some moral judgements are true?\n\nAll of it.\n\n#>If nothing, then NO moral judgements are true.  This is a thing that\n#>is commonly referred to as nihilism.  It entails that science is of\n#>no value, irrepective of the fact that some people find it useful.  How\n#>anyone arrives at relativism\/subjectivism from this argument beats me.\n# \n#This makes no sense either.  Flew is arguing that this is where the\n#objectivist winds up, not the subjectivist.  Furthermore, the nihilists\n#believed in nothing *except* science, materialism, revolution, and the\n#People.\n\nI'm referring to ethical nihilism\n\n#>>The subjectivist may well feel that all that remains is that there are\n#>>some moral judgements with which he would wish to associate himself.\n#>>To hold a moral opinion is, he suggests, not to know something to be\n#>>true but to have preferences regarding human activity.\"\n# \n#>And if those preferences should include terrorism, that moral opinion\n#>is not true.  Likewise, if the preferences should include noTerrorism,\n#>that moral opinion is not true.  Why should one choose a set of\n#>preferences which include terrorisim over one which includes\n#>noTerrorism?  Oh, no reason.  This is patently absurd....\n# \n#And also not the position of the subjectivist, as has been pointed out\n#to you already by others.  Ditch the strawman, already, and see my reply\n#to Mike Cobb's root message in the thread Societal Basis for Morality.\n\nI've responded over there.  BTW - I don't intend this as a strawman, but\nas something logically entailed by relativism (really any ethical system\nwhere values are assumed to be unreal).  It's different to say \"Relativists\nsay...\" than \"relativism implies...\".\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\tFunny, the Manta's over in Europe look surprisingly like the Opel\nalluded to by the original poster.\n\n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nHow do you like it compared to OS\/2 2.x?","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"american and european universities were full of Angry Young People(tm)\nthat wanted to overthrow the government, and wouldn't think twice\nabout lobbing a molotov cocktail at the national guard (military police\nin Europe.)\n\nCertainly, it would have been very bad form to take anything\nthe System(tm) said at face value.\n\nThis was in the end of the sixties and the begining of the seventies,\nI'm told. I was too young to remember.\n\nSomething wrong happened along the way, I'm afraid.  Maybe the west\nbecame just too comfortable, or maybe I was born too late :(\n\nYours, disappointed with with the youth of today,\n\nPS: 1) Half smilies implied.\n    2) There *is* a difference between lining up 90 people against the\n       wall and executing them, and causing their deaths through negligence\/\n       imcompetence.  I honestly hope we witnessed the latter.  As they say,\n       the alternative is too horrible to contemplate.\n    3) I'm sure the Abused Children(tm) from the compound are much \n       safer now.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\nTrue.\n\n\nNo more risk than smaller stashes unless the stash is somehow confined so\nthe heat from early ignitions could somehow bulk-heat the remainder.\n\nTwo  years ago this month my house and office burned.  In my office was my\nreloading bench.  On the top shelf next to the wooden ceiling was \nabout 100 lbs of smokeless powder, 5 lbs of black powder, several thousand\nprimers and a couple thousand loaded rounds, primarily in .45ACP, .30-20\nand .308.  The fire was extinguished before the area containing the \nreloading supplies were fully involved.  There was about 1\/2\" of char on\nthe joists, subsequently removed by sandblasting.  Lots of heat in other\nwords.\n\nNone of the powder kegs ignited.  One 1lb can of pistol powder ignited.\nNo explosion, as the can opened at the seam as it was designed to do.\nThe black powder cans were charred and got so hot the plastic lids\ncompletely melted and ran down inside.  The smokless powder was\ncontained mostly in 8 lb cardboard or metal kegs.  The kegs were charred\nbadly enough that the paper labels burned completely off and in the case\nof the metal cans, the plastic lids melted completely away.\n\nMany of the rounds cooked off.  They were in close proximity to wood\non all sides so the effects were easy to observe.  In most cases with the\nrifle ammo, the cartridge cases ruptured in the middle.  Many bullets were\nfound still in the neck.  Small shards of brass were lightly stuck into \nthe wood.  Lightly enough that brushing them with a fingertip would usually\ndislodge them.  Primers generally popped out of the primer pockets.\nThe .45ACP rounds that cooked off left empty cases and bullets laying around.\nNo dents were observed above the storage area, indicating the bullets\nleft the cases slowly enough not to be a hazard.\n\nOrdinary small arms ammo is NOT a hazard when cooking off regardless\nof what the FBI says.  \n\nJohn\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
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{"text":"This file and other text and image files from JPL missions are\navailable from the JPL Info public access computer site,\nreachable by Internet via anonymous ftp to pubinfo.jpl.nasa.gov\n(128.149.6.2); or by dialup modem to +1 (818) 354-1333, up to\n9600 bits per second, parameters N-8-1.\n-----------------------------------------------------------------\n\nOur Solar System at a Glance\n\nInformation Summary \nPMS 010-A (JPL)\nJune 1991\n\nJPL 410-34-1  6\/91\n\nNASA\nNational Aeronautics and Space Administration\n\nJet Propulsion Laboratory\nCalifornia Institue of Technology\nPasadena, California\n\n\nFor a printed copy of this publication contact the public mail\noffice at the NASA center in your geographic region.\n\n\n\nINTRODUCTION\n\n     From our small world we have gazed upon the cosmic ocean for\nuntold thousands of years. Ancient astronomers observed points of\nlight that appeared to move among the stars. They called these\nobjects planets, meaning wanderers, and named them after Roman\ndeities -- Jupiter, king of the gods; Mars, the god of war;\nMercury, messenger of the gods; Venus, the god of love and\nbeauty, and Saturn, father of Jupiter and god of agriculture. The\nstargazers also observed comets with sparkling tails, and meteors\nor shooting stars apparently falling from the sky.\n\n     Science flourished during the European Renaissance.\nFundamental physical laws governing planetary motion were\ndiscovered, and the orbits of the planets around the Sun were\ncalculated. In the 17th century, astronomers pointed a new device\ncalled the telescope at the heavens and made startling\ndiscoveries.\n\n     But the years since 1959 have amounted to a golden age of\nsolar system exploration. Advancements in rocketry after World\nWar II enabled our machines to break the grip of Earth's gravity\nand travel to the Moon and to other planets.\n\n     The United States has sent automated spacecraft, then\nhuman-crewed expeditions, to explore the Moon. Our automated\nmachines have orbited and landed on Venus and Mars; explored the\nSun's environment; observed comets, and made close-range surveys\nwhile flying past Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune.\n\n     These travelers brought a quantum leap in our knowledge and\nunderstanding of the solar system. Through the electronic sight\nand other \"senses\" of our automated spacecraft, color and\ncomplexion have been given to worlds that for centuries appeared\nto Earth-bound eyes as fuzzy disks or indistinct points of light.\nAnd dozens of previously unknown objects have been discovered.\n\n     Future historians will likely view these pioneering flights\nthrough the solar system as some of the most remarkable\nachievements of the 20th century.\n     \n\nAUTOMATED SPACECRAFT\n\n     The National Aeronautics and Space Administration's (NASA's)\nautomated spacecraft for solar system exploration come in many\nshapes and sizes. While they are designed to fulfill separate and\nspecific mission objectives, the craft share much in common.\n\n     Each spacecraft consists of various scientific instruments\nselected for a particular mission, supported by basic subsystems\nfor electrical power, trajectory and orientation control, as well\nas for processing data and communicating with Earth.\n\n     Electrical power is required to operate the spacecraft\ninstruments and systems. NASA uses both solar energy from arrays\nof photovoltaic cells and small nuclear generators to power its\nsolar system missions. Rechargeable batteries are employed for\nbackup and supplemental power.\n\n     Imagine that a spacecraft has successfully journeyed\nmillions of miles through space to fly but one time near a\nplanet, only to have its cameras and other sensing instruments\npointed the wrong way as it speeds past the target! To help\nprevent such a mishap, a subsystem of small thrusters is used to\ncontrol spacecraft.\n\n     The thrusters are linked with devices that maintain a\nconstant gaze at selected stars. Just as Earth's early seafarers\nused the stars to navigate the oceans, spacecraft use stars to\nmaintain their bearings in space. With the subsystem locked onto\nfixed points of reference, flight controllers can keep a\nspacecraft's scientific instruments pointed at the target body\nand the craft's communications antennas pointed toward Earth. The\nthrusters can also be used to fine-tune the flight path and speed\nof the spacecraft to ensure that a target body is encountered at\nthe planned distance and on the proper trajectory.\n\n     Between 1959 and 1971, NASA spacecraft were dispatched to\nstudy the Moon and the solar environment; they also scanned the\ninner planets other than Earth -- Mercury, Venus and Mars. These\nthree worlds, and our own, are known as the terrestrial planets\nbecause they share a solid-rock composition.\n\n     For the early planetary reconnaissance missions, NASA\nemployed a highly successful series of spacecraft called the\nMariners. Their flights helped shape the planning of later\nmissions. Between 1962 and 1975, seven Mariner missions conducted\nthe first surveys of our planetary neighbors in space.\n\n     All of the Mariners used solar panels as their primary power\nsource. The first and the final versions of the spacecraft had\ntwo wings covered with photovoltaic cells. Other Mariners were\nequipped with four solar panels extending from their octagonal\nbodies.\n\n     Although the Mariners ranged from the Mariner 2 Venus\nspacecraft, weighing in at 203 kilograms (447 pounds), to the\nMariner 9 Mars Orbiter, weighing in at 974 kilograms (2,147\npounds), their basic design remained quite similar throughout the\nprogram. The Mariner 5 Venus spacecraft, for example, had\noriginally been a backup for the Mariner 4 Mars flyby. The\nMariner 10 spacecraft sent to Venus and Mercury used components\nleft over from the Mariner 9 Mars Orbiter program.\n\n     In 1972, NASA launched Pioneer 10, a Jupiter spacecraft.\nInterest was shifting to four of the outer planets -- Jupiter,\nSaturn, Uranus and Neptune -- giant balls of dense gas quite\ndifferent from the terrestrial worlds we had already surveyed.\n\n     Four NASA spacecraft in all -- two Pioneers and two Voyagers\n-- were sent in the 1970s to tour the outer regions of our solar\nsystem. Because of the distances involved, these travelers took\nanywhere from 20 months to 12 years to reach their destinations.\nBarring faster spacecraft, they will eventually become the first\nhuman artifacts to journey to distant stars. Because the Sun's\nlight becomes so faint in the outer solar system, these travelers\ndo not use solar power but instead operate on electricity\ngenerated by heat from the decay of radioisotopes.\n\n     NASA also developed highly specialized spacecraft to revisit\nour neighbors Mars and Venus in the middle and late 1970s. Twin\nViking Landers were equipped to serve as seismic and weather\nstations and as biology laboratories. Two advanced orbiters --\ndescendants of the Mariner craft -- carried the Viking Landers\nfrom Earth and then studied martian features from above.\n\n     Two drum-shaped Pioneer spacecraft visited Venus in 1978.\nThe Pioneer Venus Orbiter was equipped with a radar instrument\nthat allowed it to \"see\" through the planet's dense cloud cover\nto study surface features. The Pioneer Venus Multiprobe carried\nfour probes that were dropped through the clouds. The probes and\nthe main body -- all of which contained scientific instruments --\nradioed information about the planet's atmosphere during their\ndescent toward the surface.\n\n     A new generation of automated spacecraft -- including\nMagellan, Galileo, Ulysses, Mars Observer, the Comet\nRendezvous\/Asteroid Flyby (CRAF) and Cassini -- is being\ndeveloped and sent out into the solar system to make detailed\nexaminations that will increase our understanding of our\nneighborhood and our own planet.\n     \n\nThe Sun\n\n     A discussion of the objects in the solar system must start\nwith the Sun. The Sun dwarfs the other bodies, representing\napproximately 99.86 percent of all the mass in the solar system;\nall of the planets, moons, asteroids, comets, dust and gas add up\nto only about 0.14 percent. This 0.14 percent represents the\nmaterial left over from the Sun's formation. One hundred and nine\nEarths would be required to fit across the Sun's disk, and its\ninterior could hold over 1.3 million Earths.\n\n     As a star, the Sun generates energy through the process of\nfusion. The temperature at the Sun's core is 15 million degrees\nCelsius (27 million degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure there\nis 340 billion times Earth's air pressure at sea level. The Sun's\nsurface temperature of 5,500 degrees Celsius (10,000 degrees\nFahrenheit) seems almost chilly compared to its core-temperature.\nAt the solar core, hydrogen can fuse into helium, producing\nenergy. The Sun also produces a strong magnetic field and streams\nof charged particles, both extending far beyond the planets.\n\n     The Sun appears to have been active for 4.6 billion years\nand has enough fuel to go on for another five billion years or\nso. At the end of its life, the Sun will start to fuse helium\ninto heavier elements and begin to swell up, ultimately growing\nso large that it will swallow Earth. After a billion years as a\n\"red giant,\" it will suddenly collapse into a \"white dwarf\" --\nthe final end product of a star like ours. It may take a trillion\nyears to cool off completely.\n\n     Many spacecraft have explored the Sun's environment, but\nnone have gotten any closer to its surface than approximately\ntwo-thirds of the distance from Earth to the Sun. Pioneers 5-11,\nthe Pioneer Venus Orbiter, Voyagers 1 and 2 and other spacecraft\nhave all sampled the solar environment. The Ulysses spacecraft,\nlaunched on October 6, 1990, is a joint solar mission of NASA and\nthe European Space Agency. After using Jupiter's gravity to\nchange its trajectory, Ulysses will fly over the Sun's polar\nregions during 1994 and 1995 and will perform a wide range of\nstudies using nine onboard scientific instruments.\n\n     We are fortunate that the Sun is exactly the way it is. If\nit were different in almost any way, life would almost certainly\nnever have developed on Earth.\n     \n\nMercury\n\n     Obtaining the first close-up views of Mercury was the\nprimary objective of the Mariner 10 spacecraft, launched on\nNovember 3, 1973, from Kennedy Space Center in Florida. After a\njourney of nearly five months, which included a flyby of Venus,\nthe spacecraft passed within 703 kilometers (437 miles) of the\nsolar system's innermost planet on March 29, 1974.\n\n     Until Mariner 10, little was known about Mercury. Even the\nbest telescopic views from Earth showed Mercury as an indistinct\nobject lacking any surface detail. The planet is so close to the\nSun that it is usually lost in solar glare. When the planet is\nvisible on Earth's horizon just after sunset or before dawn, it\nis obscured by the haze and dust in our atmosphere. Only radar\ntelescopes gave any hint of Mercury's surface conditions prior to\nthe voyage of Mariner 10.\n\n     The photographs Mariner 10 radioed back to Earth revealed an\nancient, heavily cratered surface, closely resembling our own\nMoon. The pictures also showed huge cliffs crisscrossing the\nplanet. These apparently were created when Mercury's interior\ncooled and shrank, buckling the planet's crust. The cliffs are as\nhigh as 3 kilometers (2 miles) and as long as 500 kilometers (310\nmiles).\n\n     Instruments on Mariner 10 discovered that Mercury has a weak\nmagnetic field and a trace of atmosphere -- a trillionth the\ndensity of Earth's atmosphere and composed chiefly of argon, neon\nand helium. When the planet's orbit takes it closest to the Sun,\nsurface temperatures range from 467 degrees Celsius (872 degrees\nFahrenheit) on Mercury's sunlit side to -183 degrees Celsius\n(-298 degrees Fahrenheit) on the dark side. This range in surface\ntemperature -- 650 degrees Celsius (1,170 degrees Fahrenheit) --\nis the largest for a single body in the solar system. Mercury\nliterally bakes and freezes at the same time.\n\n     Days and nights are long on Mercury. The combination of a\nslow rotation relative to the stars (59 Earth days) and a rapid\nrevolution around the Sun (88 Earth days) means that one Mercury\nsolar day takes 176 Earth days or two Mercury years -- the time\nit takes the innermost planet to complete two orbits around the\nSun! \n\n     Mercury appears to have a crust of light silicate rock like\nthat of Earth. Scientists believe Mercury has a heavy iron-rich\ncore making up slightly less than half of its volume. That would\nmake Mercury's core larger, proportionally, than the Moon's core\nor those of any of the planets.\n\n     After the initial Mercury encounter, Mariner 10 made two\nadditional flybys -- on September 21, 1974, and March 16, 1975 --\nbefore control gas used to orient the spacecraft was exhausted\nand the mission was concluded. Each flyby took place at the same\nlocal Mercury time when the identical half of the planet was\nilluminated; as a result, we still have not seen one-half of the\nplanet's surface.\n     \n\nVenus\n\n     Veiled by dense cloud cover, Venus -- our nearest planetary\nneighbor -- was the first planet to be explored. The Mariner 2\nspacecraft, launched on August 27, 1962, was the first of more\nthan a dozen successful American and Soviet missions to study the\nmysterious planet. As spacecraft flew by or orbited Venus,\nplunged into the atmosphere or gently landed on Venus' surface,\nromantic myths and speculations about our neighbor were laid to\nrest.\n\n     On December 14, 1962, Mariner 2 passed within 34,839\nkilometers (21,648 miles) of Venus and became the first\nspacecraft to scan another planet; onboard instruments measured\nVenus for 42 minutes. Mariner 5, launched in June 1967, flew much\ncloser to the planet. Passing within 4,094 kilometers (2,544\nmiles) of Venus on the second American flyby, Mariner 5's\ninstruments measured the planet's magnetic field, ionosphere,\nradiation belts and temperatures. On its way to Mercury, Mariner\n10 flew by Venus and transmitted ultraviolet pictures to Earth\nshowing cloud circulation patterns in the Venusian atmosphere.\n\n     In the spring and summer of 1978, two spacecraft were\nlaunched to further unravel the mysteries of Venus. On December 4\nof the same year, the Pioneer Venus Orbiter became the first\nspacecraft placed in orbit around the planet.\n\n     Five days later, the five separate components making up the\nsecond spacecraft -- the Pioneer Venus Multiprobe -- entered the\nVenusian atmosphere at different locations above the planet. The\nfour small, independent probes and the main body radioed\natmospheric data back to Earth during their descent toward the\nsurface. Although designed to examine the atmosphere, one of the\nprobes survived its impact with the surface and continued to\ntransmit data for another hour.\n\n     Venus resembles Earth in size, physical composition and\ndensity more closely than any other known planet. However,\nspacecraft have discovered significant differences as well. For\nexample, Venus' rotation (west to east) is retrograde (backward)\ncompared to the east-to-west spin of Earth and most of the other\nplanets.\n\n     Approximately 96.5 percent of Venus' atmosphere (95 times as\ndense as Earth's) is carbon dioxide. The principal constituent of\nEarth's atmosphere is nitrogen. Venus' atmosphere acts like a\ngreenhouse, permitting solar radiation to reach the surface but\ntrapping the heat that would ordinarily be radiated back into\nspace. As a result, the planet's average surface temperature is\n482 degrees Celsius (900 degrees Fahrenheit), hot enough to melt\nlead.\n\n     A radio altimeter on the Pioneer Venus Orbiter provided the\nfirst means of seeing through the planet's dense cloud cover and\ndetermining surface features over almost the entire planet.\nNASA's Magellan spacecraft, launched on May 5, 1989, has been in\norbit around Venus since August 10, 1990. The spacecraft uses\nradar-mapping techniques to provide ultrahigh-resolution images\nof the surface.\n\n     Magellan has revealed a landscape dominated by volcanic\nfeatures, faults and impact craters. Huge areas of the surface\nshow evidence of multiple periods of lava flooding with flows\nlying on top of previous ones. An elevated region named Ishtar\nTerra is a lava-filled basin as large as the United States. At\none end of this plateau sits Maxwell Montes, a mountain the size\nof Mount Everest. Scarring the mountain's flank is a\n100-kilometer (62-mile) wide, 2.5-kilometer (1.5-mile) deep\nimpact crater named Cleopatra. (Almost all features on Venus are\nnamed for women; Maxwell Montes, Alpha Regio and Beta Regio are\nthe exceptions.) Craters survive on Venus for perhaps 400 million\nyears because there is no water and very little wind erosion.\n\n     Extensive fault-line networks cover the planet, probably the\nresult of the same crustal flexing that produces plate tectonics\non Earth. But on Venus the surface temperature is sufficient to\nweaken the rock, which cracks just about everywhere, preventing\nthe formation of major plates and large earthquake faults like\nthe San Andreas Fault in California.\n\n     Venus' predominant weather pattern is a high-altitude,\nhigh-speed circulation of clouds that contain sulfuric acid. At\nspeeds reaching as high as 360 kilometers (225 miles) per hour,\nthe clouds circle the planet in only four Earth days. The\ncirculation is in the same direction -- west to east -- as Venus'\nslow rotation of 243 Earth days, whereas Earth's winds blow in\nboth directions -- west to east and east to west -- in six\nalternating bands. Venus' atmosphere serves as a simplified\nlaboratory for the study of our weather.\n     \n\nEarth\n\n     As viewed from space, our world's distinguishing\ncharacteristics are its blue waters, brown and green land masses\nand white clouds. We are enveloped by an ocean of air consisting\nof 78 percent nitrogen, 21 percent oxygen and 1 percent other\nconstituents. The only planet in the solar system known to harbor\nlife, Earth orbits the Sun at an average distance of 150 million\nkilometers (93 million miles). Earth is the third planet from the\nSun and the fifth largest in the solar system, with a diameter\njust a few hundred kilometers larger than that of Venus.\n\n     Our planet's rapid spin and molten nickel-iron core give\nrise to an extensive magnetic field, which, along with the\natmosphere, shields us from nearly all of the harmful radiation\ncoming from the Sun and other stars. Earth's atmosphere protects\nus from meteors as well, most of which burn up before they can\nstrike the surface. Active geological processes have left no\nevidence of the pelting Earth almost certainly received soon\nafter it formed -- about 4.6 billion years ago. Along with the\nother newly formed planets, it was showered by space debris in\nthe early days of the solar system.\n\n     From our journeys into space, we have learned much about our\nhome planet. The first American satellite -- Explorer 1 -- was\nlaunched from Cape Canaveral in Florida on January 31, 1958, and\ndiscovered an intense radiation zone, now called the Van Allen\nradiation belts, surrounding Earth.\n\n     Since then, other research satellites have revealed that our\nplanet's magnetic field is distorted into a tear-drop shape by\nthe solar wind -- the stream of charged particles continuously\nejected from the Sun. We've learned that the magnetic field does\nnot fade off into space but has definite boundaries. And we now\nknow that our wispy upper atmosphere, once believed calm and\nuneventful, seethes with activity -- swelling by day and\ncontracting by night. Affected by changes in solar activity, the\nupper atmosphere contributes to weather and climate on Earth.\n\n     Besides affecting Earth's weather, solar activity gives rise\nto a dramatic visual phenomenon in our atmosphere. When charged\nparticles from the solar wind become trapped in Earth's magnetic\nfield, they collide with air molecules above our planet's\nmagnetic poles. These air molecules then begin to glow and are\nknown as the auroras or the northern and southern lights.\n\n     Satellites about 35,789 kilometers (22,238 miles) out in\nspace play a major role in daily local weather forecasting. These\nwatchful electronic eyes warn us of dangerous storms. Continuous\nglobal monitoring provides a vast amount of useful data and\ncontributes to a better understanding of Earth's complex weather\nsystems.\n\n     From their unique vantage points, satellites can survey\nEarth's oceans, land use and resources, and monitor the planet's\nhealth. These eyes in space have saved countless lives, provided\ntremendous conveniences and shown us that we may be altering our\nplanet in dangerous ways.\n     \n\nThe Moon\n\n     The Moon is Earth's single natural satellite. The first\nhuman footsteps on an alien world were made by American\nastronauts on the dusty surface of our airless, lifeless\ncompanion. In preparation for the human-crewed Apollo\nexpeditions, NASA dispatched the automated Ranger, Surveyor and\nLunar Orbiter spacecraft to study the Moon between 1964 and 1968.\n\n     NASA's Apollo program left a large legacy of lunar materials\nand data. Six two-astronaut crews landed on and explored the\nlunar surface between 1969 and 1972, carrying back a collection\nof rocks and soil weighing a total of 382 kilograms (842 pounds)\nand consisting of more than 2,000 separate samples.\n\n     From this material and other studies, scientists have\nconstructed a history of the Moon that includes its infancy.\nRocks collected from the lunar highlands date to about 4.0-4.3\nbillion years old. The first few million years of the Moon's\nexistence were so violent that few traces of this period remain.\nAs a molten outer layer gradually cooled and solidified into\ndifferent kinds of rock, the Moon was bombarded by huge asteroids\nand smaller objects. Some of the asteroids were as large as Rhode\nIsland or Delaware, and their collisions with the Moon created\nbasins hundreds of kilometers across.\n\n     This catastrophic bombardment tapered off approximately four\nbillion years ago, leaving the lunar highlands covered with huge,\noverlapping craters and a deep layer of shattered and broken\nrock. Heat produced by the decay of radioactive elements began to\nmelt the interior of the Moon at depths of about 200 kilometers\n(125 miles) below the surface. Then, for the next 700 million\nyears -- from about 3.8 to 3.1 billion years ago -- lava rose\nfrom inside the Moon. The lava gradually spread out over the\nsurface, flooding the large impact basins to form the dark areas\nthat Galileo Galilei, an astronomer of the Italian Renaissance,\ncalled maria, meaning seas.\n\n     As far as we can tell, there has been no significant\nvolcanic activity on the Moon for more than three billion years.\nSince then, the lunar surface has been altered only by\nmicrometeorites, by the atomic particles from the Sun and stars,\nby the rare impacts of large meteorites and by spacecraft and\nastronauts. If our astronauts had landed on the Moon a billion\nyears ago, they would have seen a landscape very similar to the\none today. Thousands of years from now, the footsteps left by the\nApollo crews will remain sharp and clear.\n\n     The origin of the Moon is still a mystery. Four theories\nattempt an explanation: the Moon formed near Earth as a separate\nbody; it was torn from Earth; it formed somewhere else and was\ncaptured by our planet's gravity, or it was the result of a\ncollision between Earth and an asteroid about the size of Mars.\nThe last theory has some good support but is far from certain.\n     \n\nMars\n\n     Of all the planets, Mars has long been considered the solar\nsystem's prime candidate for harboring extraterrestrial life.\nAstronomers studying the red planet through telescopes saw what\nappeared to be straight lines crisscrossing its surface. These\nobservations -- later determined to be optical illusions -- led\nto the popular notion that intelligent beings had constructed a\nsystem of irrigation canals on the planet. In 1938, when Orson\nWelles broadcast a radio drama based on the science fiction\nclassic War of the Worlds  by H.G. Wells, enough people believed\nin the tale of invading martians to cause a near panic.\n\n     Another reason for scientists to expect life on Mars had to\ndo with the apparent seasonal color changes on the planet's\nsurface. This phenomenon led to speculation that conditions might\nsupport a bloom of martian vegetation during the warmer months\nand cause plant life to become dormant during colder periods.\n\n     So far, six American missions to Mars have been carried out.\nFour Mariner spacecraft -- three flying by the planet and one\nplaced into martian orbit -- surveyed the planet extensively\nbefore the Viking Orbiters and Landers arrived.\n\n     Mariner 4, launched in late 1964, flew past Mars on July 14,\n1965, coming within 9,846 kilometers (6,118 miles) of the\nsurface. Transmitting to Earth 22 close-up pictures of the\nplanet, the spacecraft found many craters and naturally occurring\nchannels but no evidence of artificial canals or flowing water.\nMariners 6 and 7 followed with their flybys during the summer of\n1969 and returned 201 pictures. Mariners 4, 6 and 7 showed a\ndiversity of surface conditions as well as a thin, cold, dry\natmosphere of carbon dioxide.\n\n     On May 30, 1971, the Mariner 9 Orbiter was launched on a\nmission to make a year-long study of the martian surface. The\nspacecraft arrived five and a half months after lift-off, only to\nfind Mars in the midst of a planet-wide dust storm that made\nsurface photography impossible for several weeks. But after the\nstorm cleared, Mariner 9 began returning the first of 7,329\npictures; these revealed previously unknown martian features,\nincluding evidence that large amounts of water once flowed across\nthe surface, etching river valleys and flood plains.\n\n     In August and September 1975, the Viking 1 and 2 spacecraft\n-- each consisting of an orbiter and a lander -- lifted off from\nKennedy Space Center. The mission was designed to answer several\nquestions about the red planet, including, Is there life there?\nNobody expected the spacecraft to spot martian cities, but it was\nhoped that the biology experiments on the Viking Landers would at\nleast find evidence of primitive life -- past or present.\n\n     Viking Lander 1 became the first spacecraft to successfully\ntouch down on another planet when it landed on July 20, 1976,\nwhile the United States was celebrating its Bicentennial. Photos\nsent back from the Chryse Planitia (\"Plains of Gold\") showed a\nbleak, rusty-red landscape. Panoramic images returned by the\nlander revealed a rolling plain, littered with rocks and marked\nby rippled sand dunes. Fine red dust from the martian soil gives\nthe sky a salmon hue. When Viking Lander 2 touched down on Utopia\nPlanitia on September 3, 1976, it viewed a more rolling landscape\nthan the one seen by its predecessor -- one without visible\ndunes.\n\n     The results sent back by the laboratory on each Viking\nLander were inconclusive. Small samples of the red martian soil\nwere tested in three different experiments designed to detect\nbiological processes. While some of the test results seemed to\nindicate biological activity, later analysis confirmed that this\nactivity was inorganic in nature and related to the planet's soil\nchemistry. Is there life on Mars? No one knows for sure, but the\nViking mission found no evidence that organic molecules exist\nthere.\n\n     The Viking Landers became weather stations, recording wind\nvelocity and direction as well as atmospheric temperature and\npressure. Few weather changes were observed. The highest\ntemperature recorded by either craft was -14 degrees Celsius (7\ndegrees Fahrenheit) at the Viking Lander 1 site in midsummer.\n\n     The lowest temperature, -120 degrees Celsius (-184 degrees\nFahrenheit), was recorded at the more northerly Viking Lander 2\nsite during winter. Near-hurricane wind speeds were measured at\nthe two martian weather stations during global dust storms, but\nbecause the atmosphere is so thin, wind force is minimal. Viking\nLander 2 photographed light patches of frost -- probably\nwater-ice -- during its second winter on the planet.\n\n     The martian atmosphere, like that of Venus, is primarily\ncarbon dioxide. Nitrogen and oxygen are present only in small\npercentages. Martian air contains only about 1\/1,000 as much\nwater as our air, but even this small amount can condense out,\nforming clouds that ride high in the atmosphere or swirl around\nthe slopes of towering volcanoes. Local patches of early morning\nfog can form in valleys.\n\n     There is evidence that in the past a denser martian\natmosphere may have allowed water to flow on the planet. Physical\nfeatures closely resembling shorelines, gorges, riverbeds and\nislands suggest that great rivers once marked the planet.\n\n     Mars has two moons, Phobos and Deimos. They are small and\nirregularly shaped and possess ancient, cratered surfaces. It is\npossible the moons were originally asteroids that ventured too\nclose to Mars and were captured by its gravity.\n\n     The Viking Orbiters and Landers exceeded by large margins\ntheir design lifetimes of 120 and 90 days, respectively. The\nfirst to fail was Viking Orbiter 2, which stopped operating on\nJuly 24, 1978, when a leak depleted its attitude-control gas.\nViking Lander 2 operated until April 12, 1980, when it was shut\ndown because of battery degeneration. Viking Orbiter 1 quit on\nAugust 7, 1980, when the last of its attitude-control gas was\nused up. Viking Lander 1 ceased functioning on November 13, 1983.\n\n     Despite the inconclusive results of the Viking biology\nexperiments, we know more about Mars than any other planet except\nEarth. NASA's Mars Observer spacecraft, to be launched in\nSeptember 1992, will expand our knowledge of the martian\nenvironment and lead to human exploration of the red planet. \n     \n\nAsteroids\n\n     The solar system has a large number of rocky and metallic\nobjects that are in orbit around the Sun but are too small to be\nconsidered full-fledged planets. These objects are known as\nasteroids or minor planets. Most, but not all, are found in a\nband or belt between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. Some have\norbits that cross Earth's path, and there is evidence that Earth\nhas been hit by asteroids in the past. One of the least eroded,\nbest preserved examples is the Barringer Meteor Crater near\nWinslow, Arizona.\n\n     Asteroids are material left over from the formation of the\nsolar system. One theory suggests that they are the remains of a\nplanet that was destroyed in a massive collision long ago. More\nlikely, asteroids are material that never coalesced into a\nplanet. In fact, if the estimated total mass of all asteroids was\ngathered into a single object, the object would be only about\n1,500 kilometers (932 miles) across -- less than half the\ndiameter of our Moon. \n\n     Thousands of asteroids have been identified from Earth. It\nis estimated that 100,000 are bright enough to eventually be\nphotographed through Earth-based telescopes.\n\n     Much of our understanding about asteroids comes from\nexamining pieces of space debris that fall to the surface of\nEarth. Asteroids that are on a collision course with Earth are\ncalled meteoroids. When a meteoroid strikes our atmosphere at\nhigh velocity, friction causes this chunk of space matter to\nincinerate in a streak of light known as a meteor. If the\nmeteoroid does not burn up completely, what's left strikes\nEarth's surface and is called a meteorite. One of the best places\nto look for meteorites is the ice cap of Antarctica.\n\n     Of all the meteorites examined, 92.8 percent are composed of\nsilicate (stone), and 5.7 percent are composed of iron and\nnickel; the rest are a mixture of the three materials. Stony\nmeteorites are the hardest to identify since they look very much\nlike terrestrial rocks.\n\n     Since asteroids are material from the very early solar\nsystem, scientists are interested in their composition.\nSpacecraft that have flown through the asteroid belt have found\nthat the belt is really quite empty and that asteroids are\nseparated by very large distances.\n\n     Current and future missions will fly by selected asteroids\nfor closer examination. The Galileo Orbiter, launched by NASA in\nOctober 1989, will investigate main-belt asteroids on its way to\nJupiter. The Comet Rendezvous\/Asteroid Flyby (CRAF) and Cassini\nmissions will also study these far-flung objects. Scheduled for\nlaunch in the latter part of the 1990s, the CRAF and Cassini\nmissions are a collaborative project of NASA, the European Space\nAgency and the federal space agencies of Germany and Italy, as\nwell as the United States Air Force and the Department of Energy.\nOne day, space factories will mine the asteroids for raw\nmaterials.\n     \n\nJupiter\n\n     Beyond Mars and the asteroid belt, in the outer regions of\nour solar system, lie the giant planets of Jupiter, Saturn,\nUranus and Neptune. In 1972, NASA dispatched the first of four\nspacecraft slated to conduct the initial surveys of these\ncolossal worlds of gas and their moons of ice and rock. Jupiter\nwas the first port of call.\n\n     Pioneer 10, which lifted off from Kennedy Space Center in\nMarch 1972, was the first spacecraft to penetrate the asteroid\nbelt and travel to the outer regions of the solar system. In\nDecember 1973, it returned the first close-up images of Jupiter,\nflying within 132,252 kilometers (82,178 miles) of the planet's\nbanded cloud tops. Pioneer 11 followed a year later. Voyagers 1\nand 2 were launched in the summer of 1977 and returned\nspectacular photographs of Jupiter and its family of satellites\nduring flybys in 1979.\n\n     These travelers found Jupiter to be a whirling ball of\nliquid hydrogen and helium, topped with a colorful atmosphere\ncomposed mostly of gaseous hydrogen and helium. Ammonia ice\ncrystals form white Jovian clouds. Sulfur compounds (and perhaps\nphosphorus) may produce the brown and orange hues that\ncharacterize Jupiter's atmosphere.\n\n     It is likely that methane, ammonia, water and other gases\nreact to form organic molecules in the regions between the\nplanet's frigid cloud tops and the warmer hydrogen ocean lying\nbelow. Because of Jupiter's atmospheric dynamics, however, these\norganic compounds -- if they exist -- are probably short-lived.\n\n     The Great Red Spot has been observed for centuries through\ntelescopes on Earth. This hurricane-like storm in Jupiter's\natmosphere is more than twice the size of our planet. As a\nhigh-pressure region, the Great Red Spot spins in a direction\nopposite to that of low-pressure storms on Jupiter; it is\nsurrounded by swirling currents that rotate around the spot and\nare sometimes consumed by it. The Great Red Spot might be a\nmillion years old.\n\n     Our spacecraft detected lightning in Jupiter's upper\natmosphere and observed auroral emissions similar to Earth's\nnorthern lights at the Jovian polar regions. Voyager 1 returned\nthe first images of a faint, narrow ring encircling Jupiter.\n\n     Largest of the solar system's planets, Jupiter rotates at a\ndizzying pace -- once every 9 hours 55 minutes 30 seconds. The\nmassive planet takes almost 12 Earth years to complete a journey\naround the Sun. With 16 known moons, Jupiter is something of a\nminiature solar system.\n\n     A new mission to Jupiter -- the Galileo Project -- is under\nway. After a six- year cruise that takes the Galileo Orbiter once\npast Venus, twice past Earth and the Moon and once past two\nasteroids, the spacecraft will drop an atmospheric probe into\nJupiter's cloud layers and relay data back to Earth. The Galileo\nOrbiter will spend two years circling the planet and flying close\nto Jupiter's large moons, exploring in detail what the two\nPioneers and two Voyagers revealed.\n     \n\nGalilean Satellites\n\n     In 1610, Galileo Galilei aimed his telescope at Jupiter and\nspotted four points of light orbiting the planet. For the first\ntime, humans had seen the moons of another world. In honor of\ntheir discoverer, these four bodies would become known as the\nGalilean satellites or moons. But Galileo might have happily\ntraded this honor for one look at the dazzling photographs\nreturned by the Voyager spacecraft as they flew past these\nplanet-sized satellites.\n\n     One of the most remarkable findings of the Voyager mission\nwas the presence of active volcanoes on the Galilean moon Io.\nVolcanic eruptions had never before been observed on a world\nother than Earth. The Voyager cameras identified at least nine\nactive volcanoes on Io, with plumes of ejected material extending\nas far as 280 kilometers (175 miles) above the moon's surface.\n\n     Io's pizza-colored terrain, marked by orange and yellow\nhues, is probably the result of sulfur-rich materials brought to\nthe surface by volcanic activity. Volcanic activity on this\nsatellite is the result of tidal flexing caused by the\ngravitational tug-of-war between Io, Jupiter and the other three\nGalilean moons.\n\n     Europa, approximately the same size as our Moon, is the\nbrightest Galilean satellite. The moon's surface displays a\ncomplex array of streaks, indicating the crust has been\nfractured. Caught in a gravitational tug-of-war like Io, Europa\nhas been heated enough to cause its interior ice to melt --\napparently producing a liquid-water ocean. This ocean is covered\nby an ice crust that has formed where water is exposed to the\ncold of space. Europa's core is made of rock that sank to its\ncenter.\n\n     Like Europa, the other two Galilean moons -- Ganymede and\nCallisto -- are worlds of ice and rock. Ganymede is the largest\nsatellite in the solar system -- larger than the planets Mercury\nand Pluto. The satellite is composed of about 50 percent water or\nice and the rest rock. Ganymede's surface has areas of different\nbrightness, indicating that, in the past, material oozed out of\nthe moon's interior and was deposited at various locations on the\nsurface.\n\n     Callisto, only slightly smaller than Ganymede, has the\nlowest density of any Galilean satellite, suggesting that large\namounts of water are part of its composition. Callisto is the\nmost heavily cratered object in the solar system; no activity\nduring its history has erased old craters except more impacts.\n\n     Detailed studies of all the Galilean satellites will be\nperformed by the Galileo Orbiter.\n     \n\nSaturn\n\n     No planet in the solar system is adorned like Saturn. Its\nexquisite ring system is unrivaled. Like Jupiter, Saturn is\ncomposed mostly of hydrogen. But in contrast to the vivid colors\nand wild turbulence found in Jovian clouds, Saturn's atmosphere\nhas a more subtle, butterscotch hue, and its markings are muted\nby high-altitude haze. Given Saturn's somewhat placid-looking\nappearance, scientists were surprised at the high-velocity\nequatorial jet stream that blows some 1,770 kilometers (1,100\nmiles) per hour.\n\n     Three American spacecraft have visited Saturn. Pioneer 11\nsped by the planet and its moon Titan in September 1979,\nreturning the first close-up images. Voyager 1 followed in\nNovember 1980, sending back breathtaking photographs that\nrevealed for the first time the complexities of Saturn's ring\nsystem and moons. Voyager 2 flew by the planet and its moons in\nAugust 1981.\n\n     The rings are composed of countless low-density particles\norbiting individually around Saturn's equator at progressive\ndistances from the cloud tops. Analysis of spacecraft radio waves\npassing through the rings showed that the particles vary widely\nin size, ranging from dust to house-sized boulders. The rings are\nbright because they are mostly ice and frosted rock.\n\n     The rings might have resulted when a moon or a passing body\nventured too close to Saturn. The unlucky object would have been\ntorn apart by great tidal forces on its surface and in its\ninterior. Or the object may not have been fully formed to begin\nwith and disintegrated under the influence of Saturn's gravity. A\nthird possibility is that the object was shattered by collisions\nwith larger objects orbiting the planet.\n\n     Unable either to form into a moon or to drift away from each\nother, individual ring particles appear to be held in place by\nthe gravitational pull of Saturn and its satellites. These\ncomplex gravitational interactions form the thousands of ringlets\nthat make up the major rings.\n\n     Radio emissions quite similar to the static heard on an AM\ncar radio during an electrical storm were detected by the Voyager\nspacecraft. These emissions are typical of lightning but are\nbelieved to be coming from Saturn's ring system rather than its\natmosphere, where no lightning was observed. As they had at\nJupiter, the Voyagers saw a version of Earth's auroras near\nSaturn's poles.\n\n     The Voyagers discovered new moons and found several\nsatellites that share the same orbit. We learned that some moons\nshepherd ring particles, maintaining Saturn's rings and the gaps\nin the rings. Saturn's 18th moon was discovered in 1990 from\nimages taken by Voyager 2 in 1981. \n\n     Voyager 1 determined that Titan has a nitrogen-based\natmosphere with methane and argon -- one more like Earth's in\ncomposition than the carbon dioxide atmospheres of Mars and\nVenus. Titan's surface temperature of -179 degrees Celsius (-290\ndegrees Fahrenheit) implies that there might be water-ice islands\nrising above oceans of ethane-methane liquid or sludge.\nUnfortunately, Voyager's cameras could not penetrate the moon's\ndense clouds.\n\n     Continuing photochemistry from solar radiation may be\nconverting Titan's methane to ethane, acetylene and -- in\ncombination with nitrogen -- hydrogen cyanide. The latter\ncompound is a building block of amino acids. These conditions may\nbe similar to the atmospheric conditions of primeval Earth\nbetween three and four billion years ago. However, Titan's\natmospheric temperature is believed to be too low to permit\nprogress beyond this stage of organic chemistry.\n\n     The exploration of Saturn will continue with the Cassini\nmission. The Cassini spacecraft will orbit the planet and will\nalso deploy a probe called Huygens, which will be dropped into\nTitan's atmosphere and fall to the surface. Cassini will use the\nprobe as well as radar to peer through Titan's clouds and will\nspend years examining the Saturnian system.\n     \n\nUranus\n\n     In January 1986, four and a half years after visiting\nSaturn, Voyager 2 completed the first close-up survey of the\nUranian system. The brief flyby revealed more information about\nUranus and its retinue of icy moons than had been gleaned from\nground observations since the planet's discovery over two\ncenturies ago by the English astronomer William Herschel.\n\n     Uranus, third largest of the planets, is an oddball of the\nsolar system. Unlike the other planets (with the exception of\nPluto), this giant lies tipped on its side with its north and\nsouth poles alternately facing the sun during an 84-year swing\naround the solar system. During Voyager 2's flyby, the south pole\nfaced the Sun. Uranus might have been knocked over when an\nEarth-sized object collided with it early in the life of the\nsolar system.\n\n     Voyager 2 found that Uranus' magnetic field does not follow\nthe usual north-south axis found on the other planets. Instead,\nthe field is tilted 60 degrees and offset from the planet's\ncenter, a phenomenon that on Earth would be like having one\nmagnetic pole in New York City and the other in the city of\nDjakarta, on the island of Java in Indonesia.\n\n     Uranus' atmosphere consists mainly of hydrogen, with some 12\npercent helium and small amounts of ammonia, methane and water\nvapor. The planet's blue color occurs because methane in its\natmosphere absorbs all other colors. Wind speeds range up to 580\nkilometers (360 miles) per hour, and temperatures near the cloud\ntops average -221 degrees Celsius (-366 degrees Fahrenheit).\n\n     Uranus' sunlit south pole is shrouded in a kind of\nphotochemical \"smog\" believed to be a combination of acetylene,\nethane and other sunlight-generated chemicals. Surrounding the\nplanet's atmosphere and extending thousands of kilometers into\nspace is a mysterious ultraviolet sheen known as \"electroglow.\"\n\n     Approximately 8,000 kilometers (5,000 miles) below Uranus'\ncloud tops, there is thought to be a scalding ocean of water and\ndissolved ammonia some 10,000 kilometers (6,200 miles) deep.\nBeneath this ocean is an Earth-sized core of heavier materials.\n\n     Voyager 2 discovered 10 new moons, 16-169 kilometers (10-105\nmiles) in diameter, orbiting Uranus. The five previously known --\nMiranda, Ariel, Umbriel, Titania and Oberon -- range in size from\n520 to 1,610 kilometers (323 to 1,000 miles) across. Representing\na geological showcase, these five moons are half-ice, half-rock\nspheres that are cold and dark and show evidence of past\nactivity, including faulting and ice flows.\n\n     The most remarkable of Uranus' moons is Miranda. Its surface\nfeatures high cliffs as well as canyons, crater-pocked plains and\nwinding valleys. The sharp variations in terrain suggest that,\nafter the moon formed, it was smashed apart by a collision with\nanother body -- an event not unusual in our solar system, which\ncontains many objects that have impact craters or are fragments\nfrom large impacts. What is extraordinary is that Miranda\napparently reformed with some of the material that had been in\nits interior exposed on its surface.\n\n     Uranus was thought to have nine dark rings; Voyager 2 imaged\n11. In contrast to Saturn's rings, which are composed of bright\nparticles, Uranus' rings are primarily made up of dark,\nboulder-sized chunks.\n     \n\nNeptune\n\n     Voyager 2 completed its 12-year tour of the solar system\nwith an investigation of Neptune and the planet's moons. On\nAugust 25, 1989, the spacecraft swept to within 4,850 kilometers\n(3,010 miles) of Neptune and then flew on to the moon Triton.\nDuring the Neptune encounter it became clear that the planet's\natmosphere was more active than Uranus'. \n\n     Voyager 2 observed the Great Dark Spot, a circular storm the\nsize of Earth, in Neptune's atmosphere. Resembling Jupiter's\nGreat Red Spot, the storm spins counterclockwise and moves\nwestward at almost 1,200 kilometers (745 miles) per hour. Voyager\n2 also noted a smaller dark spot and a fast-moving cloud dubbed\nthe \"Scooter,\" as well as high-altitude clouds over the main\nhydrogen and helium cloud deck. The highest wind speeds of any\nplanet were observed, up to 2,400 kilometers (1,500 miles) per\nhour.\n\n     Like the other giant planets, Neptune has a gaseous hydrogen\nand helium upper layer over a liquid interior. The planet's core\ncontains a higher percentage of rock and metal than those of the\nother gas giants. Neptune's distinctive blue appearance, like\nUranus' blue color, is due to atmospheric methane.\n\n     Neptune's magnetic field is tilted relative to the planet's\nspin axis and is not centered at the core. This phenomenon is\nsimilar to Uranus' magnetic field and suggests that the fields of\nthe two giants are being generated in an area above the cores,\nwhere the pressure is so great that liquid hydrogen assumes the\nelectrical properties of a metal. Earth's magnetic field, on the\nother hand, is produced by its spinning metallic core and is only\nslightly tilted and offset relative to its center.\n\n     Voyager 2 also shed light on the mystery of Neptune's rings.\nObservations from Earth indicated that there were arcs of\nmaterial in orbit around the giant planet. It was not clear how\nNeptune could have arcs and how these could be kept from\nspreading out into even, unclumped rings. Voyager 2 detected\nthese arcs, but they were, in fact, part of thin, complete rings.\nA number of small moons could explain the arcs, but such bodies\nwere not spotted.\n\n     Astronomers had identified the Neptunian moons Triton in\n1846 and Nereid in 1949. Voyager 2 found six more. One of the new\nmoons -- Proteus -- is actually larger than Nereid, but since\nProteus orbits close to Neptune, it was lost in the planet's\nglare for observers on Earth.\n\n      Triton circles Neptune in a retrograde orbit in under six\ndays. Tidal forces on Triton are causing it to spiral slowly\ntowards the planet. In 10 to 100 million years (a short time in\nastronomical terms), the moon will be so close that Neptunian\ngravity will tear it apart, forming a spectacular ring to\naccompany the planet's modest current rings.\n\n     Triton's landscape is as strange and unexpected as those of\nIo and Miranda. The moon has more rock than its counterparts at\nSaturn and Uranus. Triton's mantle is probably composed of\nwater-ice, but the moon's crust is a thin veneer of nitrogen and\nmethane. The moon shows two dramatically different types of\nterrain: the so-called \"cantaloupe\" terrain and a receding ice\ncap. \n\n     Dark streaks appear on the ice cap. These streaks are the\nfallout from geyser-like volcanic vents that shoot nitrogen gas\nand dark, fine-grained particles to heights of 2 to 8 kilometers\n(1 to 5 miles). Triton's thin atmosphere, only 1\/70,000th as\nthick as Earth's, has winds that carry the dark particles and\ndeposit them as streaks on the ice cap -- the coldest surface yet\nfound in the solar system (-235 degrees Celsius, -391 degrees\nFahrenheit). Triton might be more like Pluto than any other\nobject spacecraft have so far visited.\n     \n\nPluto\n\n     Pluto is the most distant of the planets, yet the\neccentricity of its orbit periodically carries it inside\nNeptune's orbit, where it has been since 1979 and where it will\nremain until March 1999. Pluto's orbit is also highly inclined --\ntilted 17 degrees to the orbital plane of the other planets.\n\n     Discovered in 1930, Pluto appears to be little more than a\ncelestial snowball. The planet's diameter is calculated to be\napproximately 2,300 kilometers (1,430 miles), only two-thirds the\nsize of our Moon. Ground-based observations indicate that Pluto's\nsurface is covered with methane ice and that there is a thin\natmosphere that may freeze and fall to the surface as the planet\nmoves away from the Sun. Observations also show that Pluto's spin\naxis is tipped by 122 degrees. \n\n     The planet has one known satellite, Charon, discovered in\n1978. Charon's surface composition is different from Pluto's: the\nmoon appears to be covered with water-ice rather than methane\nice. Its orbit is gravitationally locked with Pluto, so both\nbodies always keep the same hemisphere facing each other. Pluto's\nand Charon's rotational period and Charon's period of revolution\nare all 6.4 Earth days. \n\n     Although no spacecraft have ever visited Pluto, NASA is\ncurrently exploring the possibility of such a mission.\n     \n\nComets\n\n     The outermost members of the solar system occasionally pay a\nvisit to the inner planets. As asteroids are the rocky and\nmetallic remnants of the formation of the solar system, comets\nare the icy debris from that dim beginning and can survive only\nfar from the Sun. Most comet nuclei reside in the Oort Cloud, a\nloose swarm of objects in a halo beyond the planets and reaching\nperhaps halfway to the nearest star.\n\n     Comet nuclei orbit in this frozen abyss until they are\ngravitationally perturbed into new orbits that carry them close\nto the Sun. As a nucleus falls inside the orbits of the outer\nplanets, the volatile elements of which it is made gradually\nwarm; by the time the nucleus enters the region of the inner\nplanets, these volatile elements are boiling. The nucleus itself\nis irregular and only a few miles across, and is made principally\nof water-ice with methane and ammonia -- materials very similar\nto those composing the moons of the giant planets.\n\n     As these materials boil off of the nucleus, they form a coma\nor cloud-like \"head\" that can measure tens of thousands of\nkilometers across. The coma grows as the comet gets closer to the\nSun. The stream of charged particles coming from the Sun pushes\non this cloud, blowing it back like a flag in the wind and giving\nrise to the comet's \"tails.\" Gases and ions are blown directly\nback from the nucleus, but dust particles are pushed more slowly.\nAs the nucleus continues in its orbit, the dust particles are\nleft behind in a curved arc.\n\n     Both the gas and dust tails point away from the Sun; in\neffect, the comet chases its tails as it recedes from the Sun.\nThe tails can reach 150 million kilometers (93 million miles) in\nlength, but the total amount of material contained in this\ndramatic display would fit in an ordinary suitcase. Comets --\nfrom the Latin cometa, meaning \"long-haired\" -- are essentially\ndramatic light shows.\n\n     Some comets pass through the solar system only once, but\nothers have their orbits gravitationally modified by a close\nencounter with one of the giant outer planets. These latter\nvisitors can enter closed elliptical orbits and repeatedly return\nto the inner solar system.\n\n     Halley's Comet is the most famous example of a relatively\nshort period comet, returning on an average of once every 76\nyears and orbiting from beyond Neptune to within Venus' orbit.\nConfirmed sightings of the comet go back to 240 B.C. This regular\nvisitor to our solar system is named for Sir Edmond Halley,\nbecause he plotted the comet's orbit and predicted its return,\nbased on earlier sightings and Newtonian laws of motion. His name\nbecame part of astronomical lore when, in 1759, the comet\nreturned on schedule. Unfortunately, Sir Edmond did not live to\nsee it.\n\n     A comet can be very prominent in the sky if it passes\ncomparatively close to Earth. Unfortunately, on its most recent\nappearance, Halley's Comet passed no closer than 62.4 million\nkilometers (38.8 million miles) from our world. The comet was\nvisible to the naked eye, especially for viewers in the southern\nhemisphere, but it was not spectacular. Comets have been so\nbright, on rare occasions, that they were visible during daytime.\nHistorically, comet sightings have been interpreted as bad omens\nand have been artistically rendered as daggers in the sky.\n\n     The Comet Rendezvous\/Asteroid Flyby (CRAF) spacecraft will\nbecome the first traveler to fly close to a comet nucleus and\nremain in proximity to it as they both approach the Sun. CRAF\nwill observe the nucleus as it becomes active in the growing\nsunlight and begins to have its lighter elements boil off and\nform a coma and tails. Several spacecraft have flown by comets at\nhigh speed; the first was NASA's International Cometary Explorer\nin 1985. An armada of five spacecraft (two Japanese, two Soviet\nand the Giotto spacecraft from the European Space Agency) flew by\nHalley's Comet in 1986.\n     \n\nConclusion\n\n     Despite their efforts to peer across the vast distances of\nspace through an obscuring atmosphere, scientists of the past had\nonly one body they could study closely -- Earth. But since 1959,\nspaceflight through the solar system has lifted the veil on our\nneighbors in space. \n\n     We have learned more about our solar system and its members\nthan anyone had in the previous thousands of years. Our automated\nspacecraft have traveled to the Moon and to all the planets\nbeyond our world except Pluto; they have observed moons as large\nas small planets, flown by comets and sampled the solar\nenvironment. Astronomy books now include detailed pictures of\nbodies that were only smudges in the largest telescopes for\ngenerations. We are lucky to be alive now to see these strange\nand beautiful places and objects.\n\n     The knowledge gained from our journeys through the solar\nsystem has redefined traditional Earth sciences like geology and\nmeteorology and spawned an entirely new discipline called\ncomparative planetology. By studying the geology of planets,\nmoons, asteroids and comets, and comparing differences and\nsimilarities, we are learning more about the origin and history\nof these bodies and the solar system as a whole.\n\n     We are also gaining insight into Earth's complex weather\nsystems. By seeing how weather is shaped on other worlds and by\ninvestigating the Sun's activity and its influence throughout the\nsolar system, we can better understand climatic conditions and\nprocesses on Earth.\n\n     We will continue to learn and benefit as our automated\nspacecraft explore our neighborhood in space. One current mission\nis mapping Venus; others are flying between worlds and will reach\nthe Sun and Jupiter after complex trajectory adjustments. Future\nmissions are planned for Mars, Saturn, a comet and the asteroid\nbelt.\n\n     We can also look forward to the time when humans will once\nagain set foot on an alien world. Although astronauts have not\nbeen back to the Moon since December 1972, plans are being\nformulated for our return to the lunar landscape and for the\nhuman exploration of Mars and even the establishment of martian\noutposts. One day, taking a holiday may mean spending a week at a\nlunar base or a martian colony!","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"For some reasons we humans think that it is our place to control\neverything.  I doubt that space advertising is any worse than any other\nkind advertising, but it will be a lot harder to escape, and is probably\nthe most blatant example yet of our disregard for the fact that we are \nnot in fact creaters of the universe.  Annoying little species, aren't we?\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"I have a 486\/33 IBM clone with two serial ports (com1, com2) and mouse port.\nBoth the serial ports are directly sitting on the mother board.  I tried to\ninstall a 2400 buad Hayes internal modem, but it doesnt work.  Once I dial any\nnumber the system locks.  I do not hear any click or ring before it the system\nhangs.  The modem has a 2 pin dip switch to select the appropriate port.  Once \nI change the settings on the dip switch, the system starts working again.\n\nThen I bought a 2400 baud Hayes external modem and checked the system.  It\nworks fine with both the serial ports.  The internal modem has been checked on\nanother machine and it works fine, but does not work on my machine.\n\nCan anyone please help me to find the problem.","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\nI believe he was well out of baseball by the time he died.\n\n\nUh, he also has been charged with chasing his wife in a car, and smashing it\ninto a tree, as well as carrying a loaded firearm in his car. And the \nspeeding reported was over 100 mph; reckless driving.\n\n\nActually, I hadn't heard about this; thanks.\n\n\nI don't know what you were reading or watching, but I sure saw a LOT about \nthat, and about Dykstra's poker games. Most of the writing was along the lines\nof how incredibly stupid and selfish it was, and how he'd hurt the team by\nwracking himself and the catcher up, etc. ESPN raised questions about his\njudgement, etc. The print media here in the SF area questioned why disciplinary\naction wouldn't be taken against Dykstra, and one article pointed out that if\nLenny wanted to kill himself, there were ways that wouldn't endanger other\npeople's lives. Then there was Dykstra himself being quoted on how stupid it\nwas, etc.\n\nMike","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nI have noticed that newspapers don't even know what a fundamentalist is;\nat the least, they confuse new evangelicals and fundamentalists.  In this\nnews group, the liberals don't even know what a fundamentalist is (crying\nout \"legalist\" at anyone who believes and obeys God's Word). A fundamentalist\nwould train their children in the way God proscribes, not in the way that\nman proscribes.  This would not include life threatening beatings but would\ninclude corporal punishment. \n\nTo the liberals, I cry out infidel at anyone who does not believe God's Word.\n\nSignature follows:\n\"Your statutes are wonderful: therefore I obey them.\"  Psalm 119:129\n=========================================================================\nDavid L. Hanson\nAny opinions expressed are my own!\n\n[As most people here know, I believe fundamentalist is sufficiently\nill-defined that I advise using some more specific term.  I think many\npeople use it to cover people who believe in inerrancy and a number of\nrelated concepts (e.g. denial of evolution).  While the original\nfundamentals movement was somewhat more specific, I would think most\npeople who accept inerrancy would actually support the whole original\nagenda.  (It included a list of key traditional doctrines, e.g.  the\nvirgin birth.)  The term is now being used by the press to describe\naggressive conservative religions in general, most typically those who\nare attempting to legislate religion.\n\nLegalism is yet another ill-defined term.  However there is some\nreason for its use in this context.  In fact the common theological\ndefinition is the believe that salvation is through the Law.  I hope\nno one here believes that our conservative contributors hold this\nview.  However there is a basic difference in approach over what we\nexpect to get out of the Bible.  The conservative approach expects to\nfind specific behavioral rules.  Generally the posters advocating this\napproach talk about the relevant passages from Paul's letter as God's\nLaw.  The liberal approach expects to find general principles, but it\nregards specific behavioral rules subject to change depending upon the\nculture and other things.  It's easy to see why a liberal would regard\nthe conservative approach as legalism.  It's hard to know quite what\nother term to use.  The issue in this case is not inerrancy, because\nno one is saying that Paul made a factual error.  Rather, the question\nis whether his statements are to be taken as Law.  Calling the\npositive answer legalism seems obvious enough terminology.  I haven't\nseen any good alternative.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"\n\tThe garbage started hitting the field well before the Sunday\ngame.  It started on Thursday or Friday (I can't recall which games I\n*didn't* watch on TBS).  Deion was getting pelted with trash the whole\ntime, it seemed.  The announcers talked about the change in the seating\nin the bleachers, and how that made it easier for the events that\ntranspired.  I actually thought at the start of the Sunday slugfest that\nsince it was a Sunday daygame the crowd would be a little different,\nmore refined.  Surprise?\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"For Sale:\n\nSelmer Mark VII Tenor Saxophone\n\nUsed for College Jazz Band Performances.\n\nI will include a copy of \"The New Real Book\" whick is a\n\tcollection of Jazz Classics and various other standards.\n\t(paid $30 for it).\n\nOther extras included.\n\nAsking $1100\nWe can discuss shipping and COD charges.\nsend me some e-mail or call me 303-224-4317 (home)  or 303-491-7585 (school)\n\n\n-- \n******************************************************************************\n\n\tDavis\n\tjd490475@longs.lance.colostate.edu","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"[deleted]\n\nNot to flame (REALLY), but thats an abominable viewpoint (while were\non the subject of abominations).  If we followed the \"redistiribution\nof wealth\" (and by the way, ist that what Clinto and the Democrats are\ntrying to do...), EVERYONE would starve in short order.  Not only is\nit impossoble to organize a fair distribution that depends on every\n(wo)man's altruism (can you say black market under communisim\nanyone?), but the current methods of resource production are entirely\nenergy dependant.  There are not enough sources of cheap capital\n(aside from human capital) to allow us to stop looking at space a an\nexcellent source of materials and realestate.  More directly, perhaps\nyou mioght consider the fact that BILLIONS are spent by TV companies,\nand their sponsors, (ABC, NBC, CBS...) on the SUPERBOWL, the OLYMPICS,\nand even on monday night baseball games.  Perhaps we should boycott\nthose games?  If DC-X and company get finished, and there is a market\nfor it, those \"abominable\" space will probably be much more cost\neffective for the companies, and those starving children.  More people\nbuy products, the company hires more workers, end result fewer\nchildren die of starvation.\n\n-- ","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nJulie, it doesn't necessarily follow that you should use it (MSG or\nsomething else for that matter) simply because you are not allergic\nto it. For example you might not be allergic to (animal) fats, and\nlike their taste, yet it doesn't follow that you should be using them\n(regularly). MSG might have other bad (or good, I am not up on \nknowledge of MSG) effects on your body in the long run, maybe that's\nreason enough not to use it. \n\nAltho' your example of the ulcer is funny, it isn't an\nappropriate comparison at all.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"\nYeah, really, no shit!\n\nLike that jerk Loch Faircloth that couldn't win an election\nas a democrat so he switches to republican the year before this\npast election and takes Terry Sanford out with his bitch\nand moan campaigning typical of NC senate\/house\/gubner races.\n\nI swear, I'd kick Jesse Helms in the head if I ever got the chance.\n\nMaybe then he'd get a fucking clue as to how the rest of\nthe world lives.\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\tWell, actually, this one's easy. It's their job. The NSA is\nsupposed to develop cryptosystems. If the government chooses to go\nahead and sell those cryptosystems to the masses, so be it.\n\n\tThis sounds a lot like slamming the competition, not a cry\nfor justice. These guys are way out on a limb, if I read that right.\nThey've commited their new algorithm to silicon before it's been\nmade public. What are they gonna do if Shamir writes a paper showing\nhow to crack the entire class of algorithms in 5 minutes with a slide\nrule and a pencil?\n\n\tIf they weren't busy throwing muck to smear their competitors,\nI'd feel kinda sorry for 'em. Still do, a little.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"\nStill thinking you have all the answers, eh?\n\n\nJim\n--\njmd@handheld.com","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I read in MacWeek that some developers are getting NuBUS cards from apple\nwith pre-release PowerPC chips on them.  Does this mean that when the\nchip is released, those of us with old apples will be able to take\nadvantage of the PowerPC RISC technology just by inserting a card?\n\nI don't know anything about hardware, so can someone tell me how much of\na cludge this would be?","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I just read a clari article about how, among the other weapons\nthe BD had purched, they had two \"Barrett 50-caliber armor-piercing\nrifles.\"  How the hell do you use an armor-piercing rifle?  Run\nup to a tank and try to stab it?\n\nOnce again, ignorance prevails amongst the media . . .","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Check out a program called PC-Xview. I've used it before, and from\nwhat I can tell, it's exactly what you're looking for. Last I checked,\nyou should be able to find it for about $160 a copy.\n\n-Eric","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I'd like to put internal disks in a Mac II. I understand that ones needs\na special \"jumper\" cable to acheive this.  Does anyone know a source for\nthese?  Thanks,\nMike Pazzani\n(pazzani@ics.uci.edu)\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nI heard he had a strained abdominal muscle or something like that.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"[Someone asked about Biblical support for the image of Satan as\na fallen angel.  Rev 12:7-9 and Enoch have been cited.  --clh]\n\nThere is also a verse in Luke(?) that says He[Jesus] saw Satan fall\nfrom Heaven.  It's something like that.  I don't have my Bible in\nfront of me or I would quote it directly, but it's a pretty obvious\nreference to Satan's expulsion.\n\nJustin","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"85'Mazda GLC\n\n\t-\t58K miles\n\t-\tcharcoal grey, 4-dr\n\t-\tautomatic transmission\n\t-\tA\/C , Stereo System with 4-way speaker\n\t-\trear window defrost, cruise control\n\t-\tNew water pump, front tires, headlight, heat shield.\n        -       1 year old battery and transmission.\n\t-\tWell Maintained with all Records of purchase and service.\n        -       Inspection done in Feb'93\n\t-\tGood Condition\n        -       Reason for selling : Moving out of Austin.\n\n\t\t$ 2500.00 (negotiable)\n\t\tMust see to appreciate.\n\t\tcall or leave message on answering machine at 477-9429 \n                     or email to sc@che.utexas.edu\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nIt should be noted that belief in God is in itself no more a behavoral\nimperative than lack of belief. It is religion which causes the harm,\nnot the belief in God.  ","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"What is the real story here? Can I hook up any PC SVGA Montitor to the\nCentris internal video? Do I need to make my own cable if it doesn't not\ncome with one? Has apple released a Tech note with the pinouts for doing\nsuch? The reasoj I ask is that it seems the prices for SVGA are lower than\nthat of their mac counterparts...\n--mike\n\n**************************\n\n    having been discusse essentially adnausium the answer is yes.  at\nleast for the 600x400 configuration.  you can get an adaptor called Mac\nVGA -Q from James engineering (510) 525 7350 and this will let you\ndisplay 600x400 and 800x600 if the monitor is capable.  I think the\n800x600 requires 56Khz horizontal sync.  I use this on my sony 1604. \n(gives a slightly wider screen than the 832x624 adaptor.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"All are gone except 3 and 5.  Go ahead - make me an offer I can't refuse!\n\n    1. Large padded Cordura bag  SORRY, SOLD, AWAITING CHECK.\n    2. Small \"Nikon\" shoulder bag. SORRY, GONE.\n\n    3. Small \"Nikon\"* belt pouch.  Khaki.  Similar to an\n\t Army ammo pouch - belt clips, etc.  Holds flash or small\n\t zoom, lens cleaner, etc. Great for your extra lens when you\n\t don't want to tote a shoulder bag.  I think it can hold a\n\t small Walkman and some tapes.  $5. + $1. postage.\n\n    4. Domke belt pouch ... SORRY, GONE.\n\n    5. Coast camera bag - tan, brown strap\/trim.  Main and front pocket,\n\t10\"x9x4.5 and 10x6.5x1.5 respectively. Can hold AF slr with small zoom\n\tplus flash or even an 8mm or compact-VHS video camcorder! Material\n\tlooks like Gore-Tex but I don't think it is. I think it can\n\talso hold your portable CD player with a bunch of discs, headphones,\n\tAC, etc. $15. + $3. postage.\n\nTERMS:  Payment in advance by money order\/bank check, or cash.\n\n   \/|\/| \/||)|\/  \/~ \/\\| |\\|)[~|)\/~   |   Everyone's entitled to MY opinion.\n  \/ | |\/ ||\\|\\  \\_|\\\/|_|\/|)[_|\\\\_|  |      goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil\n========Imagination is more important than knowledge. - Albert Einstein=======\n\n\n\n\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
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{"text":"\nWhat if.......\n\nWhat if the FBI thought that tear gas would force the Davidians out;\nat least the mothers and the children, so they (the FBI) did not\nbother to think about the effect of tear gas on young children......\n\nWhat if the FBI knew they killed several of the children by using\ntear gas......(let`s assume the FBI knew via their listening devices)\n\nWhat if the FBI saw fire accidently break out at one end of the\nbuilding, e.g. by an upset oil lamp.......\n\nWhat if the FBI thought they could finally force the rest of the\nDavidians out AND also destroy the evidence that they (the FBI) had\nkilled the children by starting a fire at the other end......\n\nWhat if the FBI miscalculated and not many of the rest of the Davidians\nmade it out.......?????","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\nI suspect that splits such as these are the result of positioning.  An\noutfielder who is fast and gets a good jump would be expected to catch a\nlot of balls, preventing both singles and doubles, and also cut off more\nuncatchable balls, turinging doubles into singles.  However, a fielder\nwho plays shallow will catch more short flies and fewer long flies; this\nmeans that he will allow fewer singles but more doubles.\n\nHas anyone seen these players' positioning?  Do Butler and Felix play\ndeep, and Lankford, Martinez, and Wilson shallow, or is this a park\neffect?  I thought Butler liked to play shallow.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nYou sure?  This maybe a chronic syndrome.  If it persists, we may have to \nbanish you to the \"Cub-crazy Sanatarium\" in north Chicago...\n:-):-):-)","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>\nSubject: Help Palestinian education\n\n\nHOW TO HELP PALESTINIAN EDUCATION\n\n(From 'Educational Network', No. 11, April 1993,\npubl. by Ramallah Friends Schools, P.O.Box 66, \nRamallah, West Bank, via Israel\nTel. 972-2-956230,  Fax. 972-2-956231)\n\nMany of our readers have written to us asking how \nindividuals and organizations can help Palestinian \neducation. We have compiled a list of suggestions to guide \nyou. If you are interested in pursuing one or more of \nthese suggested activities, the Educational Network can \naid you by \/coordinating\/ the initial contacts, \/following \nup\/, and \/providing any other support\/ you may need.\n\n1.  Link your teachers' union with a teachers' union here \n--- linkage should be based on a shared pedagogical \nenterprise.\n\n2. Get your union to actively support the right of \nPalestinian teachers in the Occupied Territories to form \nunions:\n\na. through the International Labor Organization (if your \nunion is a member)\nb. contacting other international unions which have \nsupported our right to form a union -- we can supply \nnames and addresses.\n\n3. Establish a SCHOLARSHIP FUND for one or more \nPalestinian students to study at a Palestinian university \nor school -- or establish a scholarship fund for a \nPalestinian student or teacher to study at a university \nabroad.\n\n4. Reproduce and publish information about Palestinian \neducation:\n\n    a. for your union membership;\n    b. for the outside community.\n\nThe Educational Network can supply up-to-date \ninformation and statistics.\n\n5. Send delegations of teachers to visit the Occupied \nTerritories during periods when our schools are in \nsession.\n\nThe Network can arrange an itinerary, make hotel and \nlocal travel arrangements, and provide a guide for the \nvisit.\n\n6. Sponsor Palestinian teachers to visit your city for an \neducational tour:\n\n      a. to see schools and speak with educators in order to\n          learn about progressive pedagogical ideas and\n           experiences;\n\n      b. to speak about the conditions of Palestinian\n          education.\n\nThe Network will coordinate from Palestine.\n\n7. Establish teacher-exchange programs for one year in \nwhich a Palestinian teacher from a private school teaches \nat a public or private school abroad while a teacher from \nthat school spends a year in a Palestinian private school.\n\n8. Send an experienced educator to the Occupied \nTerritories to give workshops (all-day workshops or two-\nday workshops) on innovative teaching techniques.\n\nThe Network will pay for the person's food, lodging, and \ntravel while in Palestine, and will serve as guide.\n\n9. Set up a pen-pal program with a Palestinian school in \neither English or French.\n\n10. Set up a sister-school program with a Palestinian \nschool which would actively involve teachers as well as \nstudents at both schools -- a great tool for building \ninternational understanding and mutual sensitivity.\n\n11. Keep the Educational Network informed about \nimportant educational conferences so that we can send a \nPalestinian teacher to attend.\n\n12. Send to the Educational Network articles or other \nwritings or books dealing with innovative approaches and \nideas in the field of education so that we can then \ndisseminate the information locally.","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"-------------------------------------------\nIt's already in the hands of a monopoly of the rich because of capitalism\nof land. Other than government land, saved for posterity and the eco-system\nas well as government function, the remaining land is owned by a smaller\npercentage of the people than ever before. The game of capitalism is almost\nwon. The game has only to be declared over and we will have to take matters\ninto our own hands and redistribute it again fairly, or else be enslaved in\nreturn for a place to live. Here in central California, already, fewer than\n30% own all the property and 5% of them own 90% of it. That's twice what it\nwas twenty years ago. Rents are so high that you pay 60% of your income for\nrent. If you just have a McJob, all you can afford is one room, if that.\nSome 30% of minimum wage workers are homeless. Unless you both have degrees\nin technical fields and are working in them, (in the midst of 30%\nunemployment in high tech jobs!), you will never own anything but a used\ncar if you choose to have more than one child!!! And everywhere else you\ncould afford there are no jobs. The only way to get there is to save and\nnot consume any more than you have to, clothing used, food poor. No movies,\nno entertainment,, ect. for about five to seven years, and then, if you've\nsaved $20,000, if you can get together that much, and that's ignoring your\nkids and working two jobs, then you can buy a home in Arkansas or Missouri\noutright and live somewhere where they flood every other year! That's an\nexaggeration if you pay close attention to the flood lines on other\npeople's houses and find a sturdy hill, then you can buy one up there! Also\nbuy a rowboat. Missouri's not so bad, if you like the sensation of sleeping\nin a sweatbox in summer and your car freezing solid in winter. They really\ndo put those heaters into the dipstick hole to keep them warm enough to\nstart with ether!:) Shit, kill the rich and redistribute the livable\nproperty. Kill all of them!\n-RSW\n\n---------------------------------------------\nThe land is simply granted to people who live on it now. Extra is kept for\nthe future. You get to stay where you are without paying rent. Land that\nsupports others becomes property of the state. Farmers are welcome to plant\ncrops that people need according to demand and ability and soil quality. If\nyou want to grow sourgum because you always did, and you aren't doing a\ngood job, then we let another farmer grow sorghum, and you grow something\nelse. When people die the land they were entitled to use goes into the\npublic holdings. No one can sell land, but they can trade places with\nanybody. No one can lease land. The government will locally distribute the\nuse of the land not used for residences. Residences that are insufficient\nto the families living there can be traded to the public for a larger house\nand yard according to need and availability. The local land council who vow\nto live on their land till death to avoid profit ties will decide fairness\nsubject to review by the state and federal land councils. It will cost no\nmore than any fucking thing costs now with fucking assed rent going down a\ndeep dark hole to the owners! Anyone can submit a request for a larger\nhouse or land to start a business on, depending on a valid business plan\nand community needs. Heavy equipment is subject to seizure for the public\ngood or as needed. Heavy equipment operators are encouraged to keep and\nmaintain their own machine and to operate it at a reasonable salary in\nservice to the community. Companies who own many machines are to be divided\namong the appropriate equipment operators and the rest to be let to valid\noperators on a need basis. Cost of upkeep is charged. A guild of heavy\nmachine operators is recognized for safety and training's sake. Their\ncouncil is a subcouncil to the community council. Etc. Etc. Etc. It isn't\nso hard to think of a better system than we have. All you have to do is\nrealize that the system we have now is not sacrosanct, in fact it's a\nrigged game that steals you blind and is the most unfair any system could\nbe already!!!!!!!! The trick is to realize that the old rich have been\nmaking the rules behind your back and that it's time to kick them off the\nmerry-go-round. Tax the rich to death. They are the ones that converted\nyour 60's school lunch program into the joke it is today. They are the ones\nwho always cut education. They are the ones who always raise the rent when\nyou get a raise. They are the ones who should be not just dislodged but\nkilled for their abuse. I have trouble justifying the death penalty for a\npoor kid who killed and didn't know why not. I have no trouble justifying\nthe death penalty for the rich who steal countless human lives to feed\ntheir greed! Have you paid rent most of your life? Then you have been\nenslaved, percentage wise, most of your life. We used to be serfs. Now we\nare called renters, and we are still enslaved to somebody who claims to own\nland they don't use and make us pay them for it when they did nothing to\nown it. Most rents in California are enough to buy the apartment house,\npaynthe taxes and the insurance and have a little left over to travel with!\nI have seen the books! I know what my landlord pays and to whom! I know\nwhat I pay her. I am being forced to buy her a building and then I will be\nlet out at the other end with nothing, when I had as much right as her to\nlive on this planet! And her child will have the money to likewise\nenslave my child. I hope I find out when I am going to die. I can make\nthings just a little happier form me to be able to destroy her life as she\ndestroyed mine. And maybe I can take a few other landlords with me, and\ntheir heirs. That would be worth it. Then to be able to die before they can\ndo anything to me. That's a poor man's dream. Sleep tight, bastard\nlandlords. You don't know the trouble you are buying yourself as you sleep\non my heirs money in your mattress!\n-RSW\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\nRight.  Most definitely.\n\n\nThis may be the root of the confusion...\n\nPlease consider the following hypothetical with an open mind.  Note\nthat I am *not* (yet) saying that it has anything to do with the\nquestion at hand.\n\nSuppose we have a simplified Lotto game.  You pick a number from 1-10\nand win if that number is drawn.  Suppose we have a large population\nof people who play this game every week.\n\nIn the first year of the game, approximately 1\/4 of the population\nwill win 7 or more times.\n\nIn the second year of the game, 1\/4 of those 7-time winners will again\nbe 7-time winners.\n\nIn the third year of the game, 1\/4 of those who won 7 or more times in\neach of the first two years will win 7 again.\n\nSuppose I started with 1024 people in my population.  After three\nyears, I have 32 people who have consistently, in each of the last\nthree years, won 140% or more the number of times expected.\n\nDo we expect them to be big winners in the fourth year of the game?\nNo.  Because we know there is no skill involved.  Nothing about these\n\"consistent winners\" can influence their chances of winning.  But\nsuppose we *don't* know whether or not there is a chance that skill\nmight be involved.  Perhaps some of the people in our population are\npsychic, or something.  How would we test this hypothesis?\n\nWe can look for correlations in the population.  Now most of the\npopulation will show zero correlation.  But our psychics should show a\nhigh positive correlation (even if they aren't very good psychics,\nthey should still manage to win 7 or more times most years).  Net\nresult?  A small positive correlation over the entire population.\n\n\nWell, zero correlation is zero correlation.  You mention that Sabo has\nhit poorly in the clutch over the last 3(?) years.  But if we look at\nthe past, we find that clutch patterns are just as likely to reverse\nas they are to remain consistent.  The length of the streak doesn't\nseem to make a difference to the probability that the player will be\nclutch or choke the next year.  Is there any reason to expect *this*\nstreak to be different from past streaks?\n\nNow if it were true that \"75% of all three-year streaks remained true\nto form\", then we might have something useful.  But then we wouldn't\nhave zero correlation.  Instead we have \"50% of all three-year streaks\nremain true to form, and 50% of all three-year streaks reverse\".  You\nlook at those numbers and say \"three year choke streak implies more\nlikely to choke this year\".  But it would be equally valid to look at\nthose numbers and say \"three year choke streak implies more likely to\nbe clutch this year\", since the probabilities are split 50-50 each\nway.\n\n\nThen we would have something useful.  And we would also have a\npositive correlation.  But for every individual that exhibits such a\npattern and holds true, there is another who exhibits such a pattern\nand then reverses.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n---------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\tAs far as I know, a save opportunity is when it is 7th inning or\nbeyond, and the batter on deck can either tie or win the ball game.\n\tFor example If it is the bottom of the 8th inning and Clemens is\npithching. The Red Sox are leading 4-1 and Clemens has just givin up a hit. So,\nthere is a man on first, the batter, and the batter on deck could tie the game\nwith a homer.  If Jeff Russel came in, (The Red Sox reliever), and finished the\ngame without allowing the tieing or losing run to score, he would get the save\nand Clemens would get the win.                     \n                                                Thats how I beleive it works.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I have a question about accessing certain addresses on a chip,\nparticulary a 27C512 EPROM.  Although I don't know that much about it, as I\nunderstand it, there's a pin on the chip that, when voltage is applied, kicks\nup the address.  The question is how do you determine how many bytes the\naddress is incremented by??  For example, if I have code I want to be\naccessed at $2000 and also at say $4000 how do I move the address pointer to\nthose positions??  Thanks for any info...","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\nWhat we currently know as the 240sx, is known elsewhere as a 200sx.\n\n\n ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Well, thanks largely to subscribers of this group, here's xrastool 1.0,\nthe animation package I started just over 3 weeks ago. A number of the\nsolutions provided through discussions here have been incorporated in\nthe code, so have a look! The full blurb has been posted to\ncomp.windows.x.announce.\n\nThis post is in two parts. To unpack the source code, extract the\narticles into file1 and file2 (for example). Use a text editor to\nremove leading and trailing text at the \"---cut here---\" markers\n(including the markers themselves). Next type \"cat file1 file2 >\nfile\", then \"uudecode file\" and \"zcat xrastool1.0.tar.Z | tar xvf -\".\nRead the README file for instructions on how to proceed from there.\nEnjoy!\n\nDerek\n\nP.S. The source is also available for anon ftp from export.lcs.mit.edu\nin the contrib\/ directory. If there is enough demand, a static binary\nwill be provided for those without the XView libraries or include\nfiles.\n\n-----------------------------------------------------------\n-----------------------------------------------------------","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I would appreciate very much the address and\/or phone # of \nthis company. They supposely make analog EEPROMS. Thanks in\nadvance.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Brian Ceccarelli presents us with the fallacy of False Dichotomy in stating\nthat we must accept every thing in the books attributed to Peter, or we must\ndiscount every other book of antiquity:\n\n\nMr Ceccarelli, you seem to be stating that we must accept accept everything\nwritten in every \"historical\" document.  Somehow I doubt do that yourself\nthat.  Thus since I doubt you accept everything written in every historical\ndocument, I would ask how you can thereby objectively justify complete faith\nin the words of the books attributed to Peter. \n\nI shall now give an example of a document from antiquity, which I am sure you\nreject; it dates from the time of Ramses II (This was first presented here by\nMatthew Wiener).  These inscriptions were carved soon after a battle, and were\ncarved with the Pharoah's specific approval so we have true originals, rather\nthan mere copies.  This account records the the battle of Kadesh (circa 1285\nBC), which occurred on the river Orontes, (about 100 miles south of Aleppo). \nThe Egyptians won this battle with the Hittites, and Ramses had his victory\ninscribed all over the place.  A few of of these inscriptions have survived in\nnear perfect form.  It is a record of how the Pharoah pretty much\nsingle-handedly defeated the Hittites, after being separated from his troops. \n\nNote that the Egyptian wavers back and forth between first and third person. \nThe following is from Miriam Lichtheim`s _Ancient Egyptian Literature_ volume\nII.\n\n\tMy majesty caused the forces of the foes from Hitti to fall\n\ton their faces, one upon the other, as crocodiles fall, into\n\tthe water of the Orontes.  I was after them like a griffin;\n\tI attacked all the countries, I alone.  For my infantry and\n\tmy chariotry had deserted me; not one of them stood looking\n\tback.  As I live, as Ra loves me, as my father Atum favors\n\tme, everything that my majesty has told I did it in truth,\n\tin the presence of my infantry and my chariotry.\n\n(Note: This paragraph records not only Ramses \"divine word,\" but also that\nthere were thousands of witnesses to the event.  Now from the heart of \nbattle.)\n\n\tThen his majesty drove at a gallop and charged the forces\n\tof the Foe from Hitti, being alone by himself, none other\n\twith him.  His majesty proceeded to look about him and\n\tfound 2500 chariots ringing him on his way out ...\n\n\tNo officer was with me, no charioteer,\n\tNo soldier of the army, no shield-bearer;\n\tMy infantry, my chariotry yielded before them,\n\tNot one of them stood firm to fight with them.\n\tHis majesty spoke: \"What is this, father Amun?\n\tIs it right for a father to ignore his son?\n\tAre my deeds a matter for you to ignore?\n\tDo I not walk and stand at your word?\n\tI have not neglected an order you gave.\n\tToo great is he, the great lord of Egypt,\n\tTo allow aliens to step on his path!\n\tWhat are these Asiatics to you, O Amun,\n\tThe wretches ignorant of god?\n\tHave I not made for you many great monuments,\n\t...\n\tI call to you, my father Amun,\n\tI am among a host of strangers;\n\tAll countries are arrayed against me,\n\tI am alone, there's none with me!\n\t...\n\tThe labors of many people are nothing,\n\tAmun is more helpful than they;\n\tI came here by the command of your mouth,\n\tO Amun, I have not transgressed your command!\"\n\n\tNow though I prayed in a distant land,\n\tMy voice resounded in Southern Thebes.\n\tI found Amun came when I called to him,\n\tHe gave me his hand and I rejoiced.\n\tHe called from behind as if near by:\n\t\"Forward, I am with you,\n\tI your father, my hand is with you,\n\tI prevail over a hundred thousand men,\n\tI am lord of victory, lover of valor!\"\n\tI found my heart stout, my breast in joy,\n\tAll I did succeeded, I was like Mont.\n\t...\n\tI slaughtered among them at my will,\n\tNot one looked behind him,\n\tNot one turned around,\n\tWhoever fell down did not rise.\n\t...\n\tOne called out to the other saying:\n\t\"No man is he who is among us,\n\tIt is Seth great-of-strength, Baal in person;\n\tNot deeds of man are these his doings,\n\tThey are of one who is unique,\n\tWho fights a hundred thousand without soldiers and chariots,\n\tCome quick, flee before him,\n\tTo seek life and breathe air;\n\tFor he who attempts to get close to him,\n\tHis hands, all his limbs grow limp.\n\tOne cannot hold either bow or spears,\n\tWhen one sees him come racing along!\"\n\tMy majesty hunted them like a griffin,\n\tI slaughtered among them unceasingly.\n\nSo you see Brian, we have a few original manuscripts recording the miraculous \nbattle between the Ramses and the Hittites.  Do you reject them as being\n*completely* true? I suspect you do, and if so, then do you also, in your own\nwords: \n\n    \"question the existence of Alexander the Great, Tilgrath Pilisar III,\n     Nero, Caligula, Josephus, Cyrus the Great, Artexerxes?\"\n\nDo you also thereby question all their documents? That`s the problem with your\n\"all or nothing\" approach.  Many ancient people used to mix a bit of fancy\nwith their facts.  So for you to say that we must either accept all of Peter\n(and the rest of the New Testament) or accept no records of antiquity at all,\nforces you thereby, to accept the verity of documents you probably do not find\ncompletely credible. \n\nAs to your other argument that so many people have testified to Jesus, that he\nmust be true:\n\n \nI have three points.  \n\nFirst, this is \"argumentum ad populum\" (ie: appeal to popular opinion); you\ncannot vote on truth.  For instance, do the millions of Hindu's past and\npresent who testify to the reality of Brahma, constitute actual evidence for\nthe existence of Brahma? How would you answer your own question in regards to\nthe testimony of Hindus:\n\n\t\"With a scoff of your keyboard, with near complete ignorance of \n\t the testimonies, are you going to say that that is all complete \n\t hooey?\"\n\nIf you do so \"scoff,\" then how do you objectively justify your own special\npleading?\n\nSecond, it is not at all clear that King Solomon or King David testified to\nJesus.  You can claim it to be clear, but that does not make it true. \n\nThird, it is quite arguable that Abraham Lincoln was not Christian, and that\nhe had both a public and a private view of Christianity.  In fact there was\nmuch discussion about it in his day (yes, he was publically accused of being a\ndeist.  Oh my).  I am presently collecting a FAQ for Lincoln as I've\npreviously done for Tyre, Jefferson and etc. \n \n\t\t\t\tLater,\n\n\t\t\t\tDave Butler","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\nk\nSorry ... should have used correct terminology\n\n1 Quid = 1 Knicker = 1.54 approx U.S. Dollars \n\nThe Terry Pratchett Book \"Good Omens\" contains an adequate explanation\nof the rather strange UK money system, past and present for \"Americans, \nTibetans, and other alien species\" :-)","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\n\n(\"like most good ideas,...\" please, people!)\n\n\n_Five Weeks in a Balloon_. Not a good idea unless you have helium.\nVerne's protagonists didn't. They just got increadibly lucky.\n\nAnd yes, I knew the title of the movie too, just didn't want to start\ntalking about it. Except to bring up the image of a team of S. African\nBushmen showing up at a launch site with spears and flint knives\nto stop the launch (anyone want to bet on their success in doing so?\nespecially since they could probably stop a shuttle launch by sneezing\ntoo hard within a couple miles of the launch site).","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nWell, I don't want shorter games *per se*, but I would like for them to stop\n*wasting* so much time during games. The Gant incident is a perfect example.\nWhen a guy comes to the plate, he should be up there to hit, not show off\n(or show up the umpire, which is clearly what Gant was doing). I feel like\nwriting a fan letter to Hirschbeck.\n\n Mike Jones | AIX High-End Development | mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
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{"text":"hIn article <Apr22.185314.14420@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>\n\n\nFar more effective than mass mailing of a standard letter (this is taken\nusually to represent one pressure group) is a set of individual letters.\n\nPerhaps Nathaniel Sammons or someone else would like to prepare a set of\n\"talking points\" from which individuals could compose their own letters.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":": >There is a wire without any jack at the end sticking out of the wall. So you\n: >need to connect the wires (I'm not sure if they have wall jacks in Western\n: >Europe - they may).\n: \n:   Son of the Return of the \"How much does Americans know about the rest of\n: the word?\"-flamewar anyone?\n\n  Well, Bertil, you might laugh, but in many places here in Austria, there are\nno wall jacks yet, either - just wires sticking out of the wall (and put into\na closed, often sealed, box) :-)\n  As far as I remember from Germany, it is a nicely mixed situation - somebody\nhad wires sticking, somebody had jacks...\n  On the other hand, everywhere in Bohemia I have seen wall jacks, and never\nseen just wires sticking out of the wall... And I thought Slovakia was the\nsame case. Well...\n\n  \"How much do Scandinavians know about the rest of Europe?? :-))\"\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\tTom\n-- ","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"\n\nI would guess the high price of gas in Europe (compared to the US) has\nalways favoured 4-cylinder manuals.\n\nsmall engines with autos are a real bore...\n\nBut why not turn the question around, why are automatics so common in\nthe US?\n\nMy guess is that when they tried to couple manuals to the torque-rich\nV8's in the sixties the clutches turned out as real killers you had to \nuse both feet to depress, and that this has just lived on.\n\nAnd also, an automatic with a V8 engine can be real fun to drive.\n\nMarkus\n\n\n__________________________________________________________________________\n   _    _     _     ____              _________        \n  \/ |  \/ |   \/ |   \/   \/ \/  \/  \/   \/ \/       \n \/  | \/  |  \/__|  \/___\/ \/--|  \/   \/ \/___     '75 Chevy Camaro 350\/TH350\n\/   |\/   | \/   | \/   | \/   | \/___\/ ____\/     '87 Peugout 205 1.4\/4-speed","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\nIn the abstract, what you're saying is true.  But the facts happen to\nagree with me, and disagree completely with you.  \n\n\nListen, Pinkas.  I'm going to count on the supposition that you think\nthrough the opinions you have - something which is, by the way, against\nmy better judgment based on what I've seen from you to date.  We are\nagreed, aren't we, that dictionaries are *reference books* for the usage\nof a given language, and in particular for the meanings of the words and\nphrases which comprise that language?  Now, you are using meanings\ncompletely different from, indeed in some cases diametrically different\nfrom, those given in the dictionary.  As a reference book, a dictionary\ncontains those meanings in both past and (as much as it can) in current\nuse.  That's also why they are updated so often.  Now, if you are saying\nthings which you give different meanings than the dictionary does, and\nusing non-standard meanings about every word, what is your chance of\nbeing taken at face value...?\n\nJust about none.  Just about no one will take you that way because the\nwords mean something different to them.  It's quite clear to me from\nthe response this thread has been getting that that is exactly what is\nhappening.  Ponder that.\n\n\n\nWhat you did was ask a leading question.  In English idiom, the phrase\n\"and guess why...\" in the way you used it is a loaded question, with\nonly one answer expected.  \n\nI also take offense at being told I cannot read by someone who is\nobviously having trouble with the subject himself.  Mr. Pinkas, I am a\nPhD candidate in my field.  One does not get to PhD candidacy if one\ncannot read.  \n\n\nBalderdash.  You know this is false.  I would be able to make the\nabstraction if it bore any resemblance to the facts of the matter.\nYours did not.  The analogy is utterly inapplicable.\n\nI wouldn't be in the field I'm in -- astrophysics -- if I couldn't make\nabstractions and speculate about the general grand scheme of things.  I\nalso wouldn't be in education -- which I am (and my students give me\nrather good reviews I'd add) -- if I couldn't draw such analogies.\n\n\nThe vast majority of Palestinians in Israeli prisons aren't tortured,\nand their houses weren't blown up by the army.  In fact, you've seen me\nprotesting such measures ON THIS NET before.  Are you now trying to\nintimate my agreement with them?\n\n\nDo you know the meanings of the words you use or do you expect the\nreader to read your mind?  I can read just fine thank you.  And I don't\nneed someone who is obviously having some troubles with a tongue which\nisn't his native one telling me how to read the words in my own native\ntongue.  If it were Spanish, I'd ask you.  \n\n\nYes, they are.  As you well know.\n\n\nBalderdash.  See above.  Once again, you have a lot of gall and\nabsolutely no right to lecture a native speaker of a language, who is\nwell educated in it, in a language which isn't your own native tongue\nand with which you're obviously having problems.\n\n\nSocial life is one thing, legal status is another.  Once again, this is\na leading question.\n\n\nFinal question:  Is it possible to be both Jewish and Muslim?  Jewish\nand Christian?  Your response will be enlightening.\n\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n    Anything but...\n\n    Bill Clinton and Janett Reno should not have started the whole\n    shenanigan in the first place.\n\n\n-- \n------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nDisclaimer: Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"There is an article in Communications Week (April 12's issue) which\nstates definitively that not only is the justice department trying to revive\nthe \"wiretapping bill\", but they are ALSO trying to find a way to force key\nregistration.  CLIPPER is an obvious thrust in exactly this direction.\nDorothy Dennings is quoted in this missive.\n\nCommunications Week, April 12th, page 8.  Read it and get peeved folks.\nThen ACT NOW or lose your fundamental right to privacy.\n\nClinton has shown us that his only interest in this has to do with abortion,\nand not the right of all citizens to be secure in their papers and effects.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Well, I've come into some money and want to buy CD-ROM, sound board\nand speakers.  I have not kept up on any material relating to sound\nboards and CD-ROM's because until now I never thought I'd have enough\nmoney.  \n\n  So can you guru's out there point me in the direction of a good\npackage including CD-ROM, sound, and speakers (and software I\nsuppose)... OR since I don't REALLY need the CD-ROM right now give me\nsome good ideas for sound boards and speakers.  Those I could REALLY\nuse now.  I have looked at SoundBlaster Pro, which costs about as much\nas I think I want to spend on a board (~$120), and I've looked at the\nGravis Sound board, which is about $140 and I don't know the\nadv\/disadv of either of these boards.  \n\n  Right now I want to use it with any games that support sound, and to\nuse in Windows 3.1 to utilize sound capabilities there.  So any\nconcise info on sound boards, complete multimedia packages, etc would\nbe greatly appreciated.  If anyone else is interested in this info I\nwould be glad to summarize responses and post.  \n\n  And if this is some type of FAQ please point me in the right\ndirection and don't bother taking up a lot of bandwidth.  Thanks!\n\n-=- Brett","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nThis doesn't work, due to the near-field far-field effect. You may stop\nsomeone five yards away from listening in, but someone fifty yards away will\nbe relatively unaffected - unless you pump out hundreds of watts and jam all \nthe neighbourhood TV's as well. In that case the government will stomp on you -\nask any radio ham! Democratic governments care even more about their voters' \nright to watch soap operas than they do about national security, and dictators \nconsider their propaganda to be an integral part of their national security.\n\n\n\nI'm afraid this doesn't work either. We can pick up laptop screens without any\nproblem.\n\nMost of the so-called `low radiation' monitors are also useless. The description\nturns out to a marketing assertion rather than an engineering one.\n\nWe thought there might be a market for a monitor which was not as hugely\nexpensive as the military Tempest kit, but which was well enough shielded to\nstop eavesdropping using available receivers. We built a prototype, it works,\nand it's still sitting on my lab bench. Commercial interest was exactly zero.\n\nIn the absence of open standards, a monitor which really is `low radiation'\n(and costs 500 dollars more) can't compete against a monitor which just\nclaims to be `low radiation' (and whose only extra cost of production is the\npretty blue sticker on the box).","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"...\n\nOne might well ask if CA gun owners have given up on the NRA\/CRPA.\n\nThe national NRA doesn't march in and get things passed.  They provide\na convenient label for local activities\/activists.\n\n-andy","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"When I went thru all the spinning chair tests at JSC the PhD in charge \nwas Milt Reshke but the technician who strapped me in and, on occasion,\ninserted the \"probe\" (needle) was named Bev Bloodworth.\n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nSigh.  Here we go again.                     \n\n\nMust I?  If I were to say that batting average is a predictor that \ncan be used to judge which of two hitters is more likely to get a\nhit on a particular plate appearance, is that only valid if I can\ndefine the skill in hitting a baseball?  That's all I've said, \nexcept I used the smaller sample of batting average in clutch situations.\n\n\nI did not say I could predict the future.  I've suggested that the\nstatistic is not necessarily meaningless.  Here's the data for this\nsituation:\n\n\t\tNon-Clutch\t\t\tClutch\t \n\t\tAB\tH\tBA\t\tAB\tH\tBA\n\nSabo\t\t1539\t452\t.294\t\t259\t59\t.228\nSamuel\t\t1564\t383\t.245\t\t278\t83\t.299\t\n\n\nIf you were to have been the Reds manager at that time, I assume you\nwould have had some basis for letting Sabo hit rather than pinch-\nhitting Samuel.  I'm sure some of that basis would have utilized\nprior performance.  You just wouldn't have used this particular\naspect of prior performance.  Is this not correct?\n\n\n\n\nOne more time.  I did *not* claim to be able to predict the future.\nI said that I accept the above data as an indication that Samuel would\nhave had a better chance for success in that situation than Sabo.\n\nAnd I am not dismissing your work.  I'm stating my opinion.\nYou are saying that your work renders any opinion to the contrary\ninvalid, so that the retention of that opinion is some kind of insult\nto your work.\n\n\n\nI did not say that clutch-hitting is well defined.\n\n\tI said that the data is significant  to me.\n\nI did not say that it is a consistent skill.\n\n\tI have said that it is an indicator of performance under a\n\tcertain set of circumstances.\n\t\n\n\n\nAnd, [big sigh]\n\n\nI have NOT\n\tNOT\n\t NOT\n\t  NOT\n\t   NOT\n\t    NOT\n\t     NOT EVER called you or anyone else on r.s.b. \"stupid\".\n\n\nIt is nice, however, to see that you will consider the possibility\nthat you actually could have some preconceived biases.\n\n\n\nAh.  I knew we could get to the name calling.  And there's that word\nyou like so much.\n\n\n\nWait a minute.  I thought I first had to define clutch hitting.\nDo I, or don't I?\n\n\nI made two statements in my post.\n\n1.\tI am not convinced of your conclusions regarding clutch hitting.\n\n2.\tI would have hit for Sabo.\n\n\nAs for #2, many of us make a number of written statements through \nthis media about what we think will happen in baseball.  I'm not\nshy about it.  I'll make the statement again.  I believe that by\nseason's end that Chris Sabo's batting average in clutch situations\nwill be significantly lower than his batting average in non-clutch\nsituations.  I can't prove that it will happen, so I guess we'll \njust have to wait and see.\n\n\n- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -  - - - - - - - -  - - - - - - - - - -\nHere's another one for you.  In 1989 - 1991 Joe Carter's batting\naverage in clutch situations was significantly below his batting\naverage in non-clutch situations each year.  I presume you think\nthis is random.  \n\nNon-Clutch:\t1585 AB\t\t411 H\t\t.259\nClutch:\t\t 338 AB\t\t 68 H\t\t.201\n\nSo what could we expect in 1992 from Mr. Carter?\n\nWell, his composite BA through 1989 was .268;  through 1990 was\n.262;  through 1991 was .263, so I think we have a pretty good\nidea of what kind of batting average he can produce.  In 1992\nhe hit .264.  Not surprising, huh?  Also in 1992: \n\nNon-Clutch:\t 536 AB\t\t144 H\t\t.269\nClutch:\t\t  86 AB\t\t 20 H\t\t.233\n\nNo, this doesn't prove any overall statistical trend that can\nbe used to predict future performance across the breadth of \nmajor league ballplayers.  It just makes me think that in 1993\nJoe Carter's batting average in the clutch is not going to be\nas high as his ba in non-clutch situations.\n- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -\n \nAs for #1 (above), I have plenty of company.  John Dewan of STATS,INC. is\nthe editor of The Scouting Report wherein the statistics regarding\nclutch hitting are compiled, reported and referenced in the text.\nBill James makes numerous references to a player's ability to hit\nwell in the clutch.  I am not saying that I can predict the future\nany more than they are.   You (and others) are saying that your\nwork renders their statements (and mine) meaningless.  I don't \naccept that, which in your words proves that I am a \"total idiot\".\n\n\n\"Stupid\".  \"Total idiot\".  \n\nMy, my.  Such hostility.\n\n\n\n--\tThe Beastmaster\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":": My 83 Nighthawk has two (related?) problems with the ignition system:\n: \n:   - it won't start when on cold mornings ( 10 C, 50 F or so)\n:   - I always need to give it gas when starting it, even when using\n:     the clutch.\n: \n:   This all still happens after a tune-up and a new battery, \n:   any ideas on what could be wrong with the bike?\n\nI think you have the choke (starter) jet blocked and even the idle one.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nYou have perhaps heard of the Dead Sea.  I may be wrong, but I believe\nit is not misnamed.  And I don't believe that humans had a hand in it,\nalthough it is possible since the great cedar forests of Lebanon were\nbut a memory by the time of Christ if not earlier.\n\nBut, more on the point, while Nature is the may be the more prolific\n\"despoiler\", Man is certainly the more creative.  We have to our\ncredit pesticides and heavy metals, not to mention radioactivity,\nwhich is so wonderfully persistent and fatal (not that we invented\nradioactivity or heavy metals, we only concentrated them so that they\nwould be a more lethal threat).\n\nIn general I find Mr. Bacon's arguments rhetorical, devoid of sense,\nand therefore trivial.\n\nBTW, is there any reason this discussion is on phl.misc?","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n    This is the first I hear that Koresh refused to release\n    someone.  In fact, a lot of people, including children, came out\n    during the stand-off.\n\n    How do you know Koresh killed his followers?  The FBI said\n    he had had no such plans (and they had the place bugged), Koresh's \n    attorney said the same thing, and the survivors claimed that the \n    fire was started by goverment agents.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n-- \n------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nDisclaimer: Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"I just received a music software WinSong for Windows and found that it needs\na MIDI\/sound card (Sound Blaster Pro is preferred) to have its fantastic\nfeatures show up. As I don't have the plan to add a sound card now, I am \nputting it here for sale. It's listed $79.95 on April issue of WINDOWS \nmagazine and I paid $84.95 as the total. I am asking around $70 with shipping\nincluded.\n\nWinSong for Windows:\n\nComposer, sequencer (tape deck), and Juke Box all in one.\n\nIt's a word processor for music - you can write and edit (cut, paste, move\nand copy, etc) notes and symbols, play and print your composition.\n\nIt's graphical user interface works like a multi-track tape recorder.\nUp to 64 musical tracks can be arranged for play, record, rewind, fast-forward\nand stop.\n\nIt plays music on any MIDI compatible instrument - piano, guitar, drum set,\nsaxophone, clarinet, organ, and many.\n\nYou do not need to be a musician to use this software. The on-line manual\nis handy. For musicians, it's great as writing music is not a tedious and\nstifling aspect.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nHey American Hockey fans,\n\nAs a hockey fan I can sympathize with thefrustration that you feel.  The\nproblem is that other Americans don't give a shit about hockey.  They view\nit as a bunch of Canadians with bad accents and missing teeth beating the\nshit out of each other on a patch of ice when it is too warm now in\ntwo-thirds of the US to see the stuff naturally.  On the other hand\nBASEBALL is the *gasp**swoon**sigh* \"NATIONAL PASTTIME\".  BASEBALL is so\nromanticized in the US that you are supposed to forget that other sport\nexist after April 1 and before November 1.  I feel that since ESPN shows 5+\nBASEBALL games a week they should be able to show an OT hockey game instead\nof the opening innings of a BASEBALL game.  Hell, the game is going to last\n2hrs 45mins, so what if you miss the first 1 1\/2 hrs?  And I am an Indians\nfan!  Show the end of what you started, then switch!  But then, I'm a\nhockey fan, what do I know?  BASEBALL is the all mighty sport.","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\n(about my reply)\n\n\nIt a society that is constantly on the verge of flaming, Usenet, diplomacy\nis the best way to ensure the voice of reason gets through, isn't it?\n\n\nKevin, unfortunately you are now delving into field I know too little\nabout, algorithms. Your reasoning, as I see it, is very much along the\nlines of Roger Penrose, who claimed that mathematical 'insight' cannot\nbe algorithmic in his book _The emperor's new mind: Concerning\ncomputers, minds, and the laws of physics_. However, Penrose's\nclaim that he _has_ mathematical insight, or your similar claim\nthat wavefunctions collapse only when we consciously take a look,\ncould be just illusions.\n\nWe are obviouslu taking very different viewpoints - I try to ponder\non the problem of consciousness from an evolutionary perspective,\nrealising that it might not be anything special, but certainly\nuseful. Thinking back of what I wrote, do you think worms have minds\nor not? They are able to experience pain, at least they behave \njust like that. Yet it is conceivable that we might some day\nin the future perform a \"total synthesis of C. elegans\" from\nthe elements. Would such a worm have a mind?\n\n\nThis is true to some extent. However, I do not think that our brains\nwork like computers, at all. In fact, there is substantial evidence\n(Skarda, 1985; Skarda & Freeman 1987) that brains work more or less\nchaotically, generating enough randomness for mental states to evolve.\nOur brains work much like genetic algorithm generators, I suppose.\n\n\nIndeed, this is extremely unlikely, given the vast impact of nurture\non our mind and brain. I suggest, however, that before trying to\nunderstand our consciousness as a collection of algorithms. \n\nKevin, take a look at the references I mentioned, and think again.\nI still think the best experts on the nature of a conscious mind\nare neurologists, neuropsychologists and biologists (but do not \nflame me for my opinions), since they study beings that are\nconscious. \n\nThe reason I am repeating my advice is that this discussion cannot\nlead to anywhere if our backgrounds are too different.\n\nAnd please, do not bring QM into this discussion at all - not\nall physicists are happy with the claim that our consciousness\nplays some special role in physics. I would say it doesn't.\n\n\nAgain, _brains are not computers_. Don't forget this. This does not\nmean they need something else to work - they just work differently.\nTheir primary 'purpose' is perception and guidance of action, \nself-awareness and high intelligence are later appearances.\n\n\nYou are still expecting that we could find the idea of 'green' in\nour brains somewhere, perhaps in the form of some chemical. This is\nnot how I see it. The sensation 'green' is a certain time-dependent\npattern in the area V4 of our visual cortex, and it is distributed\nwith the help of areas V1 and V2 to the rest of the brain. \n\nIndeed, a firing pattern. I have sometimes thought of our consciousness\nas a global free induction pattern of these local firing patterns,\nbut this is just idle speculation.\n\nScientific American's September 1992 issue was a special issue on\nmind and brain. Have you already read it from cover to cover? ;-)\nThere are two articles on visual perception, so you might be \ninterested.\n\nBut again, please note that subjective experiences cannot be \nobserved from a third-person perspective. If we see nothing but \nneuronal activity, we cannot go on to conclude that this is not the\nmind.\n\nKalat (1988) writes about numerous examples where electric stimulation\nof different areas of brain have led to various changes in the \npatients' state of mind. For instance, a patient whose septal area\nwas stimulated (without his knowledge) by remote control during\na psychiatric interview was quickly cured of his depression, and\nstarted discussing a plan to seduce his girlfriend.\n\nStimulations in the temporal lobe have sometimes led to embarrassing\nsituations, when the patients have started flirting with the\ntherapist.\n\nIn conclusion, there is evidence that\n\n1) brains are essentially necessary for subjective experiences, \n   brain damage is usually equivalent to some sort of mind damage\n\n2) conscious processes involve substantial brain activity in\n   various areas of brain - when we think of colours, our\n   visual cortex is activated etc.\n\n3) consciousness is an afterthought - we become conscious of our\n   actions with a half a second delay, and our brains are ahead\n   of our 'conscious will' by at least 350 ms. \n\nThus, I think it is fruitful to turn the question \"Why do 'I' see\ncolours\" around and ask \"What is this 'I' that seems to be \nobserving?\", since it seems that our conscious mind is not\nthe king of our brains.\n\n\nThis depends on what is meant by 'seeing colours'. Does a neural\nnetwork that is capable of recognising handwritten numbers from\n0 to 9 see the numbers, if it is capable of sorting them?\n\nIf you are asking, \"why does an animal who is conscious of itself\nas an observer have an evolutionary advantage over an animal who\ndoesn't\", I have a good answer - read my previous posting,\nwhere I wrote why a sense of identity helps social animals to swap\nroles and act more morally, so that they don't unconsciously\nkill each other with newly discovered weapons. (A bit extreme,\nbut this is the basic idea.)\n\nWhen early _Homo_ became more and more efficient in using tools, \na sense of identity and the concept of 'self' had to evolve in\nline with this development. Indeed, respect for others and \nconscious altruistic behaviour might be evolutionary advantages\nfor social animals, such as early humans. \n\n\nIf minds are required for this, does this mean that until human\nminds came to the scene, wavefunctions never collapsed, but remained\nin the superpositions for aeons? My, how powerful we are.\n\nThis has been discussed before, and I think this topic is irrelevant,\nsince we do not agree that minds are necessary, and neither do\nphysicists. \n\n\nI agree, but not in the sense you apparently mean above - physics\nneeds sharp minds to solve many real problems. ;-)\n\n\nIt's OK, if you don't forget to take with you the references I\nwrote about in my previous posting, plus the following:\n\nKalat, James W. (1988): Biological Psychology.\n3rd ed., Wadsworth Publishing Company, Belmont, CA 1988.\n\nSkarda, C. (1985): Explaining behavior: Bringing the brain back in.\nInquiry 29:187-202.\n\nSkarda, C. & Freeman, W. (1987): How brains make chaos in order to\nmake sense of the world. \nBehavioral and Brain Sciences 10:161-173.\n\nPetri\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nI think it's because the lead gets coated with lead oxide if the battery is\nnot being charged or discharged. I remember some advice from an ancient car\nmanual guide my father had, which was to use car batteries to power a garage\nclock or something similar when they're not in a car. This is supposed to \nprevent the oxidation but I've no idea if it really works. The concrete floor\nconnection is a red herring.\n\n\nThis may contribute to discharging but would be reversible.\n \n\nWell, this is off-topic, but back in the days when I used to drive bangers\nI never found WD-40 to do anything that wiping with a dry cloth did'nt do.\nI think the effectiveness of WD-40 is a myth invented by the guy who owns\nthe company.\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Recently, I've asked myself a rather interesting question: What RIGHT does\ngod have on our lives (always assuming there is a god, of course...!) ??\n\nIn his infinite wisdom, he made it perfectly clear that if we don't live\naccording to his rules, we will burn in hell. Well, with what RIGHT can god\nmake that desicion? Let's say, for the sake of argument, that god creates every\none of us (directly or indirectly, it doesn't matter.). What then happens, is\nthat he first creates us, and then turns us lose. Well, I didn't ask to be\ncreated. \n\nLet's make an analogue. If a scientist creates a unique living creature (which\nhas happened, it was even patented...!!!), does he then have the right to\nexpect it to behave in a certain matter, or die...?\n\nWho is god to impose its rules on us ? Who can tell if god is REALLY so\nrighteous as god likes us to believe? Are all christians a flock of sheep,\nunable to do otherwise that follow the rest? \n\nHmmmmmmmmmmmm.\n\nI just want to point out that this is not sarcasm, I mean it.\n\n\t\t \tHow should one deal with a man who is convinced that\n\t\t \the is acting according to God's will, and who there-\n     Jokke\t\tfore believes that he is doing you a favour by\n\t\t \tstabbing you in the back?","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"Just saw on CNN that the independent team that examined the Waco fire\nand reported that it was started inside by the BDs is now under question.\n\nThe attoneys for the BD's are claiming that it's not an impartial team\nfor the team leader is the wife of one of the BATF agents. HA!\n\nThe goverment continues with it's propaganda.\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n-\tThis is not a secure line.                                       -\n-\tDaniel R. Oldham\t\t\toldham@heron.icd.ab.com  -","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"I am trying to follow the current conflict in former Yugoslavia. One thing\nI cannot figure out is where do the Serbs and Croats get their weapons,\netc? Don't they run out of them?","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\nI'm worried by the concern about it though, for a number of reasons\nthat have nothing to do with Space Advertising (which for a number of\nreasons is probably doomed to fail on financial grounds).\n\n(And I've been reading and (and writing) this thread since way\nback when it was only on sci.space).\n\nFor starters, I don't think the piece of light-pollution apparatus\nwould be as bright as the full moon. _That_ seems to me to be a bit\nof propaganda on the part of opponents, or wishful thinking on the\npart of proponents.\n\nSecond, this charge of ruining the night sky permanently has been\nlevelled against other projects, that either 1) don't increace light\npollution significantly, or 2) increace light pollution only over the\ntarget area.\n\nYou may or may not recognize #1 as being Solar Power Sattelites.\nI think it was Josh Hopkins who actually did the math, showing that\nSPS's weren't that bright after all, ending some two months of frenzied\nopposition on the part of dark-sky activists and various other types.\n\n#2 is mainly projects like the orbiting mirror the CIS tested\nrecently.  While slightly more worrisome, I'd like to point out that\nany significant scattering of light outside the target area for one of\nthese mirrors would be wasted as far as the project would be\nconcerned, and something any project like that would work against\nanyway. And given some of the likely targets, I don't think there's\ngoing to be much of an outcry from the inhabitants. There is too much\ndark sky in the northern CIS during the winter, and I doubt you'll find\nmany activists in Murmansk demanding the \"natural\" sky back. If anything,\nhe'll probably be inside, stripped buck naked in front of the UV lamp,\nmaking sure he'll get enough vitamin D for the \"day.\"\n\nThe mirror experiments aren't something they're doing for crass\nadvertising. They think that if they can build one, it'll be one of\nthose things people in the affected areas will think they couldn't\nhave lived without before. And I doubt anyone's going to really be\nable to convince them to stop.\n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
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{"text":"\nI can vouch for this method in my 1990 SHO.  This is the only sure way of \nputting in the reverse without any problem _every_ time.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n\nYes me, why?\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nI think you just answered your own question...\n","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\nA guy who threw 240 innings with about .6 run lower ERA would have saved the\nbullpen even more. Say, somebody like Frank Viola (238 innings).\n\n\nNice audition tape. Send it to:\n   Baseball Tonight\n   ATTN: Ray Knight\n   ESPN\n   Bristol, CT\n\nHave you, by chance, taken a look at the boxscores from last year to\ndetermine the accuracy of your account? I seem to recall Morris getting at\nleast 3 or 4 wins last year when the Jays came back from behind after they\nhad decided to pull Morris at the end of an inning.\n\n Mike Jones | AIX High-End Development | mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Oakland, California, Sunday, April 25th, 1:05 PM PDT:\n\nJose Mesa vs. Storm Davis.\n\nYou have been warned.\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"First off, the correct spelling of Nissan's luxury automobile division\nis \"Infiniti\" not \"Infinity.\"  I would also like to clear up the question\nof what kind of engines power Lexus and Infiniti automobiles, since a\nperson had remarked in earlier posts that most Lexus and Infiniti models\nhad V6 engines, while at the same time saying that several of each\nmanufacturer used V8 engines.\n\nLexus:\n  LS400- V8\n  GS300- V6\n  ES300- V6\n  SC400- V8\n  SC300- V6\n\nInfiniti:\n  Q45- V8\n  J30- V6\n  G20- inline 4 (I must admit that I cannot remeber for sure here)\n\nI hope this helps.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\tI have a Gateway 4dx2\/66v. Does anyone know if I csn (or can't)\nDuse 32 bit access?\nD\nD\n\n","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"\n    Well I was watching Hockey Hotline last night and Stan said that the\nstation (KBL) had been recieving calls all day concerning this subject. \nAnd the verdict was that almost exclusively NOBODY wanted that load\nmouth, know it all blow hard, former Bruin whiner, Ulf Hating, scum\nsucking, Pr*ck of missery in Pittsburgh on a permanent basis.  That's\nnot exactly what Stan said;  I did do a bit of interpriting.\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Come on, this is sci.space.  An orbital billboard won't\ndo any permanent damage; in a few years it will reenter\nand probably hit Los Angles anyway :-)\n\nThe boost to space commerce orbital advertising might\nprovide might speed the day it is possible for those with a \nyen for dark skies to get some really dark skies beyond\nthe dust producing the zodiacal light. \n\nNow, if they wanted to paint the CocaCola symbol on the\nmoon in lampblack, that would give me pause.  It would\nbe very difficult to reverse such a widespread application\nof pigments.\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\nNanao's F-Series (e.g. F550i) and T-Series (e.g. T660i) monitors\nare MPR-II compliant.  According to my little pamphlet, the T-Series\nmonitors are also TCO-compliant, whatever that is.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nMark, this is the most reasonable post that I've seen in Sci. Med. on the \ntopic of Colonic Flushing.  I'm in a profession that uses manipulation(a \nvery refined form of massage) to treat various human diseases.  Proving \nthat manipulation works has been extremely difficult(as the MD's delight in \npointing out).  The Osteopathic Profession seems to be making better \nprogress than the chiropractors in proving(scientifically) that their \ntechingues work.  The JAOA recently had a study on the use of manipulation \nto relieve mensrual cramps in women with results that were as good or \nbetter than drug treatment(using physiological measurements, and not just \nthe woman's preception of improvement).  This study was hailed by the JAOA \neditors as the turning point in the profession's long struggle to prove \nitself to the medical community.\n\nI'm currently trying to get the AOA(American Osteopathic Association) which \nhas supported most of the Osteopathic research in the U.S. to also support \nnutrition education and research.  I've pointed out, in a grant proposal, \nthat the founder of Osteopathic Medicine(A.T. Still) embraced both diet and \nmanipulation to set himself apart from the MD's of his time who were pushing \nonly drugs(Still was himself an MD who got real dissillusioned with drugs \nduring his service in the Civil War).  He decided that there had to be a \nbetter way to treat human disease since he saw the cure(drugs) as being \nworse than the disease.  Through his many years of study of the human body, \nhe developed his manipulation techniques that he then taught to his \nstudents in the U.S's first Osteopathic Medical school.  We now have 17.\nStill used manipulation to treat(and also diagnose) human disease but he \nused diet to prevent human disease.  I'm trying to get the Osteopathic \nProfession to return to it's roots and beat the MD's to the punch(so to \nspeak).  Both DO's and MD's in current medical practice have very little \nunderstanding of how diet affects human health.  This has to change.\n\nMartin Banschbach, Ph.D.\nProfessor of Biochemistry and Chairman\nDepartment of Biochemistry and Microbiology\nOSU COllege of Osteopathic Medicine","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Anyone who thinks that TIFF is too complex hasn't dealt with\n\tCGM, ASN.1, CDA, DCA, SGML, or any one of a number of other\n\tvery successful file format.  People seem perfectly capable\n\tdealing with these others.  Dealing with the format of TIFF\n\tis frankly less difficult than dealing with the DCT, LZW, and\n\tFAX encoding of the image data.  The majority of the libraries\n\twhich deal with TIFF are dedicated to these other issues rather\n\tthan with simply decoding the tags and parameters.\n\n\tPerhaps people are overwhelmed in comparison with some rather\n\tsimpleminded formats such as GIF, PCX, and BMP, but to suggest\n\tthat TIFF is so complex as to be doomed to failure is ludicrous.\n\n\tThat doesn't mean that GIF isn't fine, but don't even thing about\n\tusing it in many instances.  GIF is very nice for use in low-end\n\tphotos applications and for screen grabs and such, but it would\n\tnever do for high-volume or high-resolution systems.  FAX is nice,\n\tbut it doesn't do color (and GIF doesn't do B&W all that well).\n\tJPEG is nice for high-resolution color, but is slow for low-end.\n\n\tThe advantage TIFF brings to the table is its ability to handle\n\tall these situations (and then some).  Naturally it's more complex.\n\tBut I'ld rather propose TIFF imaging solutions over imaging\n\tsystems based on having to deal with 3-4 file formats anyday.\n\n\tYou may find that TIFF is too complicated for your personal tastes\n\tbut please don't wrail against it's complexity.  The complexity\n\tit contains is required to provide the functionality it does and\n\tdoesn't come close to the complexity found in most commercially\n\tviable file formats.\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nThere are companies (one in Canada, as I recall) which specialize in\nanalyzing chips to understand process technology, design rules,\n... to understand the probable yield of the assembly line making them,\nand therefore the probable current cost and possible future cost curves,\ngiven design shrinks, statistical quality control -> better yields, etc.\n\nTaiwanese, Japanese and especially Korean semiconductor manufacturers\nhave all (korea continues) reverse-engineered foreign chips and\nproduced the chip.  Taiwan and Japan have signed intellectual\nproperty treaties, and now at least extract the gate\/transitor level\ndesign before laying the chip out again.  The koreans still\nuse mask-level copying, I believe.  At least, they are under a lot\nof pressure to pass laws to meet international intellectual property\nstandards.\n\nAll this despite lots of attempts to hide the designs.  There are lots\nof techniques to do so in both hardware and software design.\n\nFor a complex chip, there will be real intellectual effort extracting\nthe gate design from the transistor design, and the algorithm from\nthe gate design.  But it won't take two smart guys even 6 months, working\n40 hour weeks.  Koreans work 60 or more 8)\n\nLew","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":" \n\nWith regards to what you wrote, how does one \"adjust for room dynamics \nand stuff like that\"?  I asked a professor that question just\nlast week and he didn't really know himself.  Since pink noise is believed\nto be due to surface states (say, the surface of the Silicon where there's\na lack of a covalent bond) that act as \"traps\" to nearby elecrons, and since\nthis happens at low frequencies (because at high frequencies they aren't\nable to \"trap\" electrons), how do you compensate for that?  It seems to me\nthat you wouldn't be able to compensate for pink noise.  I have seen the\n\"pink noise\" feature, however, on many EQs, and I was wondering\nhow they are suppose to compensate for noise when pink noise is not due to\n\"man made noise\" like power lines, crosstalks, coupling, etc.  If you have\nany information about this, it would be appreciated.  Hope this didn't sound\ntoo drawn out.  Thanx.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"I would like to buy a cheap modem for my Mac. Did I mention that I would\nprefer it to be cheap?  2400 baud preferred, but when you're looking for\ncheap (and I do mean cheap) beggars can't be choosers.  E-mail me.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nI think what Bob is describing here is a game which MAD magazine\ncalled 'Basebrawl'.  I have no idea what issue, but it sure did cover\nthe violence issue.\n\npaul\n\n\n\n","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Most of these are C.S. books.  There are also some Math and Physics\nbooks.  For books marked as \"New\", the condition is *perfect*.  All\nother books are in good condition.\n\nShipping: Buyer pays $1 per book.\n\nHere is the list:\n\n\n*** If you hate the prices, email me an offer...  \n\n\n=========================================================================\nTitle \/ author                  orig. price   asking price\n=========================================================================\n\n\nCommunication Networks              $52.25++    $42             New!\n(Walrand)\n\n\nComputer Origanisation and          $58.85++    $42\nArchitecture\n(Stallings)\n2-nd edition\n\n\nAI and the Design of Expert         $45.80++    $35\nSystems\n(Lugar & Stubberfiled)\n\n\nArtificial Intelligence             $46.25++    $39             New!\n(Patrick Henry Winston)\n2-nd edition\n\n\nOperating System Concepts\n(Silberschaltz, Peterson, Galvin)    $50++      $39\n\n\nA Book on C                         $34.25      $20\n(Kelley, Pohl)\n2-nd edition\n\n\nTeach Youself C                       ???       $10\n(Siegal)\n\n\nUnderstanding Hard Disk Management    ???       $10             New!\non the PC\n(Jonathan Kamin)\n\n\n****\nMath\n****\n\nFreshmen Calculus\t\t       ???\t$9\n(big, hard cover book)\n\nDiscrete Math with Application      $50.95      $40\n(Susanna S. Epp)\n\n\nA course in Linear Algebra             ???      $20             New!\n(Damiano, Little)\n\n\nSchaum's outline series:            $11.95      $6\nLinear Algebra\n\n\n*******\nPhysics\n*******\n\nFoundations of Physics              $58.95      $48             New!\n(Halliday, Resnick)\n3-rd edition\n\n\n\nAlso selling: GRE books..  Both are *brand new*.  (Never used)\n\nARCO GRE General test.\n(Big, red book)\t\t\t$19\n\nARCO computer Science GRE\t$13\n\n\nPlease send email if interested.\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nGood idea, But why put all the eggs in one basket?\n\nGiven that the escrow keys are generated 200 at a time on floppy disks, why\nnot keep them there rather than creating one huge database that will have to\nbe guarded better than Fort Knox.\n\nGive each floppy to a different bank for safekeeping. The USA has over 10,000\nbanks and thrifts - there are not likely to be more than 2,000,000 Clipper\nphones sold.","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":" \n[TC] Do you, as I do, agree that this (sort) of \"peace process\" is needed?\n[TC] What about the particular points mentioned in the article? Is what\n[TC] Israel is (supposedly) going to propose \"good\"? Does it go too far?\n[TC] Not far enough?\n\n[TC] If you don't agree that a \"peace process\" is needed, what is?\n\nI personally think that a peace process is needed, since only through\nnegotiations will the future generations be able to live in stability.\nUnfortunately not all think like this, we have cases like:\n\tAnas Omran, Hamza Saleh, Jle, Mohammed Reza, Mehmed Abu-Abed, \nAnwar Mohammed and others who think that JIHAD is the only solution. \n\nI wish that people (including myself) would have more objective views like Tim,\nBasil and Shai for example and put the rhetoric aside and start discussing\n\"substance\".\n\nMy view is that Israel has made more gestures towards its Arab foes than the\nopposite. What have the Sysrians given to us or proposed? What have the\nPalestinians proposed? If the Palestinians would just revoke or rewrite their \ncharter, or just condemn acts of Palestinian violence that would be a good\nstart.\nThe Palestinians have all to gain from these negotiations. Its seems though\nthat they are not strong enough to make decisions on their own and are\nplagued by internal strife, that is why we are not getting anywhere.\nFundamentalism is slowly taking over in the territories, then it will be\ntoo late to discuss issues with the Palestinians since they will only\nvow for the destruction of Israel.\nArabs  must take example on Egypt. Egypt came to the bargaining table,\ngot what it wanted from Israel and there is now peace and cooperation\nbetween the two countries. \nThe tougher you play ball with Israel the tougher Israel gets.\n\nTsiel\n\n\nTsiel","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\nBe fair.  He did walk 6 batters in 6.1 IP.  He also allowed only three\nhits, none for extra bases.  Only one run.  A pretty good outing, all\ntold.\n\n\nThere is no such thing as a \"must win\" game this early in the season.\nAnd we can always *hope* that Darwin pitches well!","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\nI'm also interested in info both public domain and commercial graphics library \npackage to do PC VGA graphics.  \n\nI'm currently working on a realtime application running on a PCC with a \nnon-DOS kernel that needs to do some simple graphics.  I'm not sure if \nreentrancy of the graphics library is going to be an issue or not.  \nI suspect I'll implement the display controller as a server process that \nhandles graphics requests, queued on a mailbox, one at a time.  If this \nprovides sufficiently frequent display updates then I believe that I can \nrestrict all graphics operations to be performed by the server and thus \nconstrain access to the library to a this single process and avoid the need\nfor a reentrant graphics library.  \n\nBeing fairly new to the realtime systems world I may be overlooking something,\nwhat do you think?","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"Jim and Andy both have it incorrect I believe:\n\nThe *facts* are what is there, the processes that exist in the\npresent or the physical evidence of the processes having occured\nin the past. These *facts* exist with or without a theory.\n\nThe *theory* tries and explains the *facts* and how they relate\nto the rest of the physical universe in a manner that is both\ncoherent and useful, that it can be used to make predictions.\n\nThe *facts* of gravity, evolution, electromagnetic radiation,\nrelativity, atoms will exist and behave in the way in which they\nbehave regardless of whether we have a theory to try and explain\nhow they interact... or even why.\n\nA theory never really becomes a fact... but a theory can predict\nthe existence of a previously unknown fact, and if we find this\nfact as the theory predicted we say the *theory* is *supported*\nby the *facts*. A theory is a mental construct, a speculation, \na model.  If it is a good model, it may be useful.\n\nIn science a theory is something that is supported by the \nevidence, considerable evidence, sometimes *all* of the evidence.\nA *hypothesis* is a new fledgling theory because there is not\nyet enough evidence to support it.  When a new hypothesis \nis proposed to replace an existing theory, it must explain\n*all* of the facts that the current theory explains and at least\nsome of the facts that the current theory could not and\/or\npredict new facts.\n\nIt is so simple.... I'm surprised that this subject gets\nbeat to death about once a month. A quick glance in a dictionary\nwould clear up 99% of the confusion and bandwidth in this\nnewsgroup.  Then we could talk about really important things\nlike, why do men have nipples?\n\n-David Utidjian-\nutidjian@remarque.berkeley.edu\n\n\n","label":19,"label_text":"talk.religion.misc"}
{"text":"\/* posted for a friend -- please reply to him *\/\n\n++++++++++++++++++++++++ CAR AMPLIFIERS FOR SALE +++++++++++++++++++++++++\n\nI have 3 high-end car amplifiers for sale:\n\n(2) Old-Style Rockford Fosgate 150's.  These are great amps, and I've never\n    had a minute's trouble with either of them.  I've been running them on\n    high end for quite some time (front\/rear) and have been very pleased\n    with them in that setup, but I've also run them on low end before, and\n    they perform quite well in that situation as well.  I'm trying to sell\n    them because I'm considering upgrading to a Rockford 650.  I already\n    own a Power 300, and I've always liked the way the 650\/300 combo worked\n    in cars.\n\n    I'm asking $200.00 a piece, and list on them when I bought them was\n    $375.00.  If you're interested in both of them, I'd be willing to come\n    down on the price a little bit.\n\n\n(1) Precision Power 2150.  This great utility amplifier is rated at 2x150,\n    and looks brand new.  The shroud is unscratched, and it works great.\n    This is a great low-end amp because of it's high-power rating into\n    2 channels, however, I've also had it running front or back high end\n    before where it did very well.\n\n    I'm asking $425.00 for this amp, but feel free to make me an offer on\n    it.\n\n\n**** Please direct questions\/replies to hacker@krusty.gtri.gatech.edu ****\n\n==============================================================================\n== Chase Hacker                          \"Fortune presents gifts not        ==\n== chase@cc.gatech.edu                    according to the book.     DCD    ==\n== gt0658a@prism.gatech.edu                                                 ==\n== hacker@krusty.gtri.gatech.edu                                            ==\n==============================================================================\n------------------------------------------------------------------------\nMike Goldsman              __o          o__      o__      o__      o__    \n36004 Ga Tech Station    _ \\<,_        _.>\/ _   _.>\/ _   _.>\/ _   _.>\/ _   \nAtlanta, Georgia 30332  (_)\/ (_)      (_) \\(_) (_) \\(_) (_) \\(_) (_) \\(_)","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"                                                      ^^^^^^^^\n\tOh my god. My spelling and grammer suck. I guess I need some\nsleep. I said righting (instead of writing). What's the chance\nof that. Thank god I caught it before everyone started picking\non it. I hope I didn't cause Mr.Jefferson too much shame. \n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"\n\n\nBill Conner, meet Bill Conner.","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\n\n\nNo, the sky does not, at this time, belong to anyone.  Ownership is necessary\nto the definition because someone has to have the authority to decide if the\naction was good or bad.  If neither you or I own a brick wall, then I can't\nunilaterally declare that spraypainting my name on it is right, and you don't\nhave the authority to declare that it is wrong.  The owner may find it artistic\nor she may be call the police.\n\n(this applies to the argument on bright satellites more than street lights)\n\nIt's vandalism because many people -- power companies -- do maliciously waste light. \n\n\"maliciously\" implies evil intent.  The lighting companies aren't going out\nof their way to spoil the sky.  They just don't care.\n\n\nIt is the responsibility of the customer to choose the most efficient hardware.\nIf that's what your city will buy, that's what the lighting company will sell.\nWrite a letter to city hall.\n\nPlease note that I'm not defending light pollution.  The orignial focus of \nthis thread was space based light sources.\n\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nThat's another sad thing.  I'd expect this sort of shit from the BATF.\nBut I'm goddamn disappointed in the FBI.  They used to be professionals.\n-- ","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"\n     Our white knight for Islam rides in again! Our instant expert\non religion, race and ethnicity is at the door! Stand back all. Let \nhim through. He's going to single-handedly rescue Islam from all these\ndastardly mistakes, misquotes, misconceptions.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Some time ago (about 1 month) there was a bit of discussion\n        about a universal VESA driver for > 8bit cards.  It was in\n        the file uvesa32.zip.  Well i can't find it, does anyone know\n        where it is (gorilla.something.something.au), and what sort\n        of cards it works for ?\n\n        Also would it be pushing my luck to ask for someone to post\n        it to some appropriate group.","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":".. actually from Alistair Scott\nafs@tauon.ph.unimelb.edu.au\n\nI have come across a old external hard disk and I can't find\nany specs for it anywhere...\n\nIt is made by NEC (yes I tried tech support.... no help), and it\nhas a model number APC-H27C and is labelled \"Expansion Hard Disk\"\n\nCan anyone help me out with figuring out what this beast is.\nThe external connector looks like a scsi plug, and the date on the \ndrive chassis is 1984... os it's pretty old.\n\nI just want to see what it is, before I deep six it or rip it \napart for bits.\n\n\n\nthanks","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nThere has been no empirical evidence to support the first statement.  True,\nthere is a power surge at startup that has the potential to do damage, but\nthe internal power supply is well-protected. (I've turned my Mac on and off \nsix or seven times a day for three years without problem).  The monitor is\nthe same.  To leave it on is to waste a lot of electricity -- twice as much\nas a television, possibly more.\n\nTurn it off when you're not using it.  It'll save you money and the world\na few more resources.\n\n-Kelley-\n-- \n-----------------------------------------------------------------\nThomas Kelley Boylan, PowerPC, IBM Austin, kelleyb@austin.ibm.com","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"\nPEXLIB and PHIGS (as it comes from MIT with PEX and as is explained in the\nPHIGS Programming Manual) are just different API's for the PEX protocol,\nwhich is an extension to the X protocol.\n\nSo it depends on You, what you go to use.\n\nAdvantage of Phigs is the protability to other platforms (IBM GraPhigs, \nSunPhigs) and the standardized structuring of the 3D objects.\n\nAdvantage of PEXlib is the sometimes faster and easier programming for\nimmediate mode graphics, because PEX is not an exactly mapping of Phigs\nto a Prortocol.\n\n-- \n       \\|\/\n      (o o)\n -oOO--(_)--OOo--------------------------------------------------------\n  \\\\    Roland Holzapfel       Computer     email:                   \/\/\n   \\\\   Wilhelminenstrasse 7   Graphics       holzapfe@igd.fhg.de   \/\/\n   \/\/   6100 Darmstadt          Center      phone:                  \\\\\n  \/\/    Germany                 (ZGDV)        ++49 6151 155150       \\\\\n -----------------------------------------------------------------------\n  >>             This space intentionally left blank                 <<","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"..\n...\n\nIt sounds like she has a problem.  She has a problem opening up to her\nhusband so she is lesbian.  WHAT? In a marrige, a couple is supposed\nto open up to each other.  Because she didn't feel comfortable opening\nup to her husband she gets a divorce and comes to the conclusion that\nshe is lesbian.  Before anyone gets maried they should make sure that\nthey would feel comfortable \"open up the deepest part of her soul to\nher husband\".  \"Sex, in her mind, is only a part of the whole\nrelationship.\"  Did she think it was diffrent with a man. That might\nbe her problem.","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"For sale, or trade some combination for 286-16 motherboard or 2400 v.42bis\n\nMonochrome monitor, pretty generic, for IBM.\n\n8088 motherboard, 7 Mhz, built in monochrome and color support, built in\nserial and parallel ports.  Stick it in a robot, use it to make a cheap\nterminal, whatever.\n\n5.25\" internal Low density disk drive.\n\n1200 baud external modem, practical peripherals.\n\nMake me an offer.  oR suggest a trade for whatever you have.\n\n\n\n\nLibertarian, atheist, semi-anarchal Techno-Rat.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"   How fast do the fastest modems go?\n\nV.FAST is targeted for about 28kbps; 14.4kbps is ~$500, and 19.2 may\nbe here soon too.  (Remember to ignore compression figures which make\nyour modem go faster on compressible data, because voice gets\ncompressed better than that, and encryption makes further compression impossible.)\n\n   How far can voice be compressed?\n\nThe STU-III phones on the market from AT&T, Motorola, and (I forget who else),\ngive you a choice of 9600, 4800, and 2400 baud.  The 9600 and 4800 are CELP,\nand I think the 2400 is some earlier military vocoder stuff.\n9600 is decent, 2400 is pretty artificial, anything less is Speak&Spell.\n16000 can produce quite adequate sound.  There's also some 8 kbps CELP around.\nDSPs have made it possible to do all this in real time for cheap.\n\nOld-hand government crypto have trouble adjusting to systems faster\nthan 9600 baud, because if the voice on the other end sounds good,\nyou assume the crypto hasn't been turned on yet :-)","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":": worked fine.)  Please note: none of the software or hardware parameters\n: were changed, only the phone line itself.  Is my new modem faulty?  What\n: can I do? \n: \n: -- \n: David Thomas Dudek \/  v098pwxs@ubvms.bitnet     \\     __   _ The Cybard\n\nI'm arguing with the phone company about a similar problem.  We\ninstalled a second phone line in our home (for our kids), and whenever\none of them is on THEIR line, the modem returns \"NO DIAL TONE\" on its\nline.\n\nWhen we pick up the phone and listen, we can hear my kids' voices\n\"bleed\" through.  Whenever we can hear this, the modem won't dial (even\nthough the dial tone is loud and clear through the modem speaker).\n\nI think it's the phone company's problem, but they say they can't\n(won't?) correct the problem...I'm still working on them. ;-}","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\n\n\nYour ignorance is hardly characteristic of most '*ians'. Sarkis Atamian \nexplains in his book called 'The Armenian Community, New York 1955, \nPhilosophical Library' that, according to historians, original fatherland \nof the Armenians was in Thessaly, Greece. Armenian invaders burned and \nsacked the fatherland of Urartus, massacred and exterminated its population \nand presented to the world all those left from the Urartus, as the Armenian \ncivilization. All reliable western historians describe how Armenians \nruthlessly exterminated 2.5 million Muslim women, children and elderly \npeople of Eastern Anatolia and how they collaborated with the enemies of \nthe Muslim people between 1914-1920. It is unfortunately a truth that \nArmenians are known as collaborators of the Nazis during World War II \nand that, even today, criminal members of the ASALA\/SDPA\/ARF Terrorism \nTriangle preach and instigate racism, hatred, violence and terrorism \namong peoples. \n\n\nWho says 'Arromdians' are no damn good? During World War II Armenians \nwere carried away with the German might and cringing and fawning over \nthe Nazis. In that zeal, the Armenian publication in Germany, Hairenik, \ncarried statements as follows:[1]\n\n\"Sometimes it is difficult to eradicate these poisonous elements (the Jews)\n when they have struck deep root like a chronic disease, and when it \n becomes necessary for a people (the Nazis) to eradicate them in an uncommon\n method, these attempts are regarded as revolutionary. During the surgical\n operation, the flow of blood is a natural thing.\" \n\nNow for a brief view of the Armenian genocide of the Muslims and Jews -\nextracts from a letter dated December 11, 1983, published in the San\nFrancisco Chronicle, as an answer to a letter that had been published\nin the same journal under the signature of one B. Amarian.\n\n \"We have first hand information and evidence of Armenian atrocities\n  against our people (Jews). Members of our family witnessed the \n  murder of 148 members of our family near Erzurum, Turkey, by Armenian \n  neighbors, bent on destroying anything and anybody remotely Jewish \n  and\/or Muslim. Armenians should look to their own history and see \n  the havoc they and their ancestors perpetrated upon their neighbors.\n  Armenians were in league with Hitler in the last war, on his premise \n  to grant themselves government if, in return, the Armenians would \n  help exterminate Jews. Armenians were also hearty proponents of\n  the anti-Semitic acts in league with the Russian Communists.\"\n\n  Signed Elihu Ben Levi, Vacaville, California.\n\n[1] James G. Mandalian, 'Dro, Drastamat Kanayan,' in the 'Armenian\n    Review,' a Quarterly by the Hairenik Association, Inc., Summer:\n    June 1957, Vol. X, No. 2-38.\n\nAnd stick around...\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"Subject sez it...\n\nWondering if either team are in town that weekend (5-30\/5-31).\n\nI can probably get Phillies tix, as the Vet can hold a bunch (and\nI hope they're still in 1st but it's late may, and...).  Camden\nYards is a problem - is there any way of getting in the park w\/o an SRO\nticket?  Any advice if there at home?\n\nJoe Leonard\njle@world.std.com","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\n\n\n\n\n\nLook be consistent. First you post something that seems to suggest that you see\nxv being an 8 bit program as some sort of error. \nSo I post and asy it is not a bug, it is meant to be like that. \nSo you post and say it is not a bug, you never said it was, I have misunderstood\netc.\nNow you are saying:\n\n\nIf you would make up your mind what you are claiming it would make the\ndiscussion a *lot* easier.\n\n----------------\n\n\nEh? Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying here. I am aware that English is\nnot your native language and have tried hard to fathom your meaning, but this\nparagraph defeats me.\n\n\nYes *as I originally said*, global changes are easily possible.\n\nBut this statement contradicts what you said earlier: \n\n\n---------------\n\n\n\nNo I don't think so actually. \n\nYou were talking about loading a 24 bit image into xv (by quantising),\nmanipulating the colours in the colour editor, then somewhow applying these\nchanges to the 24 bit file when you exit xv. Xv lets you edit individual\ncolours. Where is this sudden jumping off the topic?\n\n\nYes I am aware there is no colourmap in a 24 bit file!!\n\n\nI do not understand what this statement is supposed to mean.\n\n\n???\nWhat are you saying\n???\n\n\nAh! now we see thew problem! First you want to extend xv to allow editing of 8\nbit previews of 24 bit images. Then I point out problems with this. Now you are\nsaying there is no problem because you, personally, happen not to use those\nparts of the program that cause the problem!!\n\n\n\nNot sure what you are saying here. Certainly one can make local changes.\n\n\nYes that is one possible approach. I would find a program that took such an\napproach clumsy, however.\n\n\nWell here we agree - you have not thought it through very much. You don't seem\nto have a consistent point to make and contradict yourself from one post to the\nnext. OK, we all have off days - perhaps you should step back and think this one\nthrough.\n\n\n\nAs I said in the last post, JPEG is a compression algorithm. It is a way of\nsaving disk space by trading off quality against compression. I fail to see what\nthe problem is. You have not proposed any workable alternatives.\n\n\nSpeak for yourself. You are the *only* person I have met or spoken to who,\nhaving quantised a 24 bit image down to 8 bits, expects this process to somehow\nreverse when the file is saved; keeping all modificvations that heve been made\nto the 8 bit image palette.\n\nPerhaps that is why you yused the singular?\n\n\nLook, next time you import a 24 bit image into xv look carefully at the main\ncontrol panel - it tells you how many colours have been allocated to the 8 bit\nimage. XV makes it abundantly clear that you are not editing the original 24 bit\nfile. You are the *only* person who claims this is confusing.\n\n\nIs a design error the same as a bug? ;-)\n\nRead my lips. XV is a program for viewing and modifying 8 bit images. It lets\nyou import other images. It shows, I would say, a good deal of thought about the\nhuman interface. And everyone else seems to use it happily for the purpose it\nwas designed for. It makes no false claims.\n\n\nIf you would come up with a solid, logical, well argued and lucid description of\nprecisely how these proposed extensions would work, feel free to post them. So \nfar, you have not done so.\n\n\nArgh!! After all this, a comment like that. `Very easily'. OK, go ahead and code it\nif it is so easy.\n\nOr alternatively, look up the terms `import' and 'non-reversible transformation'.\n\n\nI think this is a bit of an exageration.\n\nWhat you are actually saying is, you got into a lift (elevator, if you are in\nthe states ;-) ) and mistakenly pressed the down button to go up. Everyone else\nhad no problem. Now you are trying to sue the manufacturer...\n\n\nyou bet\n\n\nMostly. Leaving aside the language issue however, it betrays some very wooly\nthinking (as you yourself admit) which is the same in any language. Go think\nsome more.\n\n--\nChris Lilley\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\nTechnical Author, ITTI Computer Graphics and Visualisation Training Project\nComputer Graphics Unit, Manchester Computing Centre, Oxford Road, \nManchester, UK.  M13 9PL                        Internet: C.C.Lilley@mcc.ac.uk \nVoice: +44 (0)61 275 6045  Fax: +44 (0)61 275 6040 Janet: C.C.Lilley@uk.ac.mcc","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\n\nNice litle bike.  I loved riding my brother-in-law's.\n\n ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====----","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":" \n\nYou would have to use something other than the AT&T black box - in other\nwords, I don't think public key would work.  The session key would have \nto be agreed upon prior to the conversation and distributed to all \nsites beforehand.\n\nOr go out and get a STU-III ;-)\n\n-- \nDoug Bank                       Private Systems Division\ndougb@ecs.comm.mot.com          Motorola Communications Sector\ndougb@nwu.edu                   Schaumburg, Illinois\ndougb@casbah.acns.nwu.edu       708-576-8207                    ","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Texas Instruments TI-81 calculalor. Excellent scientific calculator. ","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nDirty Cosar pig has been doing just that for a long, long time.\n\nSource: \"Ahmet Cosar said to have been part of 1992 Terror Attack at\nMacDonalds in Munich,\" The Fuckersville Reporter, February 7, 1993, p. 1.\n\n\"Le Merde, the influential Anatolia daily, based on unidentified sources,\nclaimed last week that Ahmet Cosar, the founder and leader of one\nfaction of the Big Mac Funny Army for the Liberation of Flies from the\nSpider Webs (BMFALFSW), was among the Argic led terrorists who staged an\nattack on the toilets at MacDonalds fast food restaurant in Munich...\n\nLe Merde added that up to 1992, Cosar operated out of tygra.michigan.com,\nbut escaped from the country when Bullshit bikers entered the city. It was\nabout this time that a statement issued by BMFALFSW claimed that Mr. Cosar\nwas dead of wounds suffered during a mailbombing by bdb@becker.gts.org,\nalthough it is generally believed that the mysterious leader is alive and\nwell and presently is residing alternately in Fuckersville, Bullshitia, and\nZuma, Stupidia. The paper also noted that the communist government of\nSexual Maniac Hasan B. Mutlu and his F.U.C.K.A.L.L party accepted the\nZumabot's underground leader with \"open arms\" and still providing him\nwith assistance in exchange for pornographic material.\n\nLe Merde further adds that BMFALFSW derives only a small portion of its\nexpenditures from wealthy drug lords who support the cause, with the rest \ncoming either from other sources or from proceeds of an involvement in\nchild-porn trafficking.\"\n\nSerdar Argic","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"...\nI believe that my former employer Hughes Aircraft Company has a working Ion \nPropulsion system for satellites.","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"Hi, Terry. Its me again. I couldn't agree with you more.\nI finally received my Datadesk keyboard a month after sendng it to\nDatadesk to have it checked.  They didn't tell me over the phone that\nyou had to wait before pressing the shift key to disable extensions.\nActually, they did, but not until a day before my keyboard\narrived. But a month earlier, they were of no help at all.\nI really think they need to put a disclaimer on their keyboard\nmanual.","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I have tested both vehicles (identically\nequipped), both for week-long periods.\nCuriously (and consider these are test\nvehicles), I found the Mercury higher\nin build quality than the Nissan.\n\nEither choice is good, but beware that\nI did not experience reasonable mileage\nwith the V6.  Average city driving was\n<15mpg, with about 21 avg. on the highway.\n\nBoth were optioned to the hilt (the Nissan\nhad leather!).  The Villager was in the\n$24K range and the Nissan was over $26K.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Ensoniq SQ-80 Cross-Wave Synthesizer:\nI have an SQ-80 for sale.  The SQ-80 is a powerful performance\noriented synth with a limited on-board sequencer.  I bought it because\nit has a very large timbral repertoire;  it seems to do meaty analog\nsynth sounds as well as sounds that are considerably more \"digital\".\nBelow are a list of features extracted from the owner's manual:\n  o Eight-voice polyphonic poly-timbral synthesizer, capable of\n    playing eight different sounds at once, with dynamic stereo\n    panning for each voice\n  o Voice section employing Cross-Wave synthesis;  combine different\n    attack and sustain wave segments to create complex, dynamic sounds\n  o 75 sampled waves (includes a drumset) serve as the sound source\n  o Dynamic voice allocation:  each sequencer track\/MIDI channel has\n    access to all eight voices\n  o A full-featured MIDI controller keyboard capable of sending eight\n    MIDI program and volume changes at once.  Keyboard is velocity\n    sensitive, and transmits\/receives velocity and polyphonic aftertouch.\n  o Powerful matrix modulation scheme allows a very wide range of \n    modulation sources and routings.\n  o A 3.5\" floppy disk drive which writes\/reads ordinary DS\/DD disks\n    allows fast and reliable storage of up to 600 sequences and up to\n    1728 sound patches on a single floppy disk.  Also has a RAM-cart slot\n    for patches that is compatible with ESQ-1 RAM-carts.\n  o Does sysex dumps to its floppy disk for any sysex capable MIDI device\n  o 80 character fluorescent display and user-friendly \"page-driven\"\n    programming scheme provides a fairly humane user interface\n  o Stereo line-outs, and stereo headphone jack for private listening\n  o Sound programs and sequences are upwardly compatible with the ESQ-1\n    so that sounds and sequences created for the ESQ-1 can be played on\n    the SQ-80.\n\nThis SQ-80 has been the main MIDI controller in my studio for quite a while\nnow.  It has performed ably in that role, and has also been a heavily\nused sound source at the same time.  The SQ-80 seems to have been designed\nwith this role in mind, and it works very well with my software sequencer\n(WinCake) in its multitimbral mode.\n\nshort samples (there are 75 of them) as sources, then these waves\nare processed with a sophisticated DCF-DCA arrangement.  The SQ-80\nis capable of great things because of its 4-pole analog lowpass filter.\nSimply put, it makes fabulous analog synth sounds.  But unlike most\ngood analog synths, it has a very thorough MIDI implementation so that it\nworks very well with a MIDI sequencer.  What I really like most about this\nthing is that it is capable of making a very wide range of sounds.\nThis SQ-80 is about 5 years old (mfg. date 1\/21\/88).  It does have\nan 8-track sequencer, but like most on-board sequencers, it is a pain\nto use so I have avoided it.\n\nREASON FOR SALE:\nI am selling my SQ-80 because I recently joined forces with another individual\nhere in Boston, and we have more keyboards than space to put them.  I\nrecommend it for someone who is getting started in sequencing and needs a\npowerful but economical master keyboard.\n\nPRICING AND TERMS:\nI paid $1300.00 for this synth a few years ago.  I am willing to accept\n$650.00 (average r.m.m.s asking price is $733.00).  I will include a bunch of \npatches on SQ-80 floppy disks for the buyer of this synth, as well as the \noriginal Ensoniq SQ-80 owner's manual.\n\nPrice:    Asking $650.00 (everything)\nShipping: split shipping (UPS Surface COD) anywhere in the lower 48 states\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nCraig Vanderborgh                                         Verbex Voice Systems\ne-mail:  craigv@rad.verbex.com                            119 Russell Street\nphone: (508) 486-8886                                     Littleton, MA 01460","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I would like to sell my PS\/2 Model 50, with its Kingston SX\/Now! \n33MHz processor, a Cyrix FasMath coprocessor (CPU\/FPU LandMark \nscores of 46.6MHz\/107.8MHz), 8 Meg (9 Meg total) on a AST \nAdvantage\/2 board (0 wait state), original 20 Meg hard drive, and a \nvery fast Adaptec 1640 SCSI controller card (worth around $300 new) \nwith software to control any external or internal SCSI device.  I'm \nincluding Dos 6.0 (or 5.0), and keyboard.  The VGA will drive any \nmultisynching or straight VGA (cheap) monitor.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I just ordered my 4DX2-66V system from Gateway.  Thanks for all the net\ndiscussions which helped me decide among all the vendors and options.\n\nRight now, the 4DX2-66V system includes 16MB of RAM.  The 8MB upgrade\nused to cost an additional $340.\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"NHL PLAYOFF RESULTS FOR 4\/20\/93.\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n                  CONFERENCE SEMI-FINALS        BEST OF SEVEN\n      PATRICK              ADAMS              NORRIS              SMYTHE\n \n NJ                  BUF   (leads 2-0)   STL   (leads 1-0)   WIN               \n PIT   (leads 2-0)   BOS                 CHI                 VAN   (leads 1-0)\n\n NYI   (tied  1-1)   MON                 TOR                 LA    (leads 1-0) \n WAS                 QUE   (leads 2-0)   DET   (leads 1-0)   CAL              \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nNew Jersey Devils                         0   0   0   -   0\nPittsburgh Penguins  (leads series 2-0)   2   4   1   -   7\n\n1st period: PIT, McEachern 1 - (Francis, Taglianetti) 15:09\n\t    PIT, M.Lemieux 3 - (U.Samuelsson, Barrasso) (sh) 17:41\n\n2nd period: PIT, Tocchet 2 - (K.Stevens, U.Samuelsson) 3:48\n\t    PIT, Jagr 2 - (Francis, Ramsey) 12:39\n\t    PIT, K.Stevens 1 - (Francis, Murphy) (pp) 15:43 \n\t    PIT, McEachern 2 - (Daniels, Mullen) 16:46\n\n3rd period: PIT, Mullen 1 - (Francis, Barrasso) 17:42\n\nPowerplay Opportunities-Devils   0 of 5\n\t\t\tPenguins 1 of 4\n\nShots on Goal-\tDevils    12  11  13  -  36\n\t\tPenguins  13  10   4  -  27\n\nNew Jersey Devils--Terreri (0-2) (23 shots - 17 saves)  Billington (0:00 third)\n\t     \t   (4 shots - 3 saves)\nPittsburgh Penguins--Barrasso (2-0) (36 shots - 36 saves)\n\nATT-16,164\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nNew York Islanders   (series tied 1-1)   1   1   2   0   1   -   5\nWashington Capitals                      0   2   2   0   0   -   4\n\n1st period: NYI, Turgeon 1 - (King, Thomas) 13:14\n\n2nd period: WAS, Hunter 3 - (Johansson, Miller) 6:33\n\t    NYI, Turgeon 2 - (Thomas, Vaske) 12:36\n\t    WAS, Hunter 4 - (Johansson, Carpenter) (pp) 16:51\n\n3rd period: NYI, Hogue 1 - 3:31\n\t    WAS, Khristich 2 - (Cavallini, Bondra) 7:16\n\t    NYI, Ferraro 2 - (Flatley, Hogue) 14:50\n\t    WAS, Hunter 5 - (Johansson, Khristich) (pp) 19:57\n\n1 Overtime: NONE\n\n2 Overtime: NYI, Mullen 1 - (Ferraro, Flatley) 14:15\n\nPowerplay Opportunities-Islanders 0 of 5\n\t\t\tCapitals  2 of 5\n\nShots on Goal-\tIslanders  14  17   8  13   9  -  61\n\t\tCapitals    6   9  11  14   5  -  45\n\nNew York Islanders--Healy (1-1) (45 shots - 41 saves)\nWashington Capitals--Tabaracci (1-1) (61 shots - 56 saves)\n\nATT-15,421\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nMontreal Canadiens                       0   0   1   -   1\nQuebec Nordiques    (leads series 2-0)   3   0   1   -   4\n\n1st period: QUE, Leschyshyn 1 - (Kamensky, Sakic) (pp) 4:19\n\t    QUE, Young 2 - (Lapointe) 11:41\n\t    QUE, Young 3 - (Lapointe, Duchesne) 13:56\n\n2nd period: NONE\n\n3rd period: MON, Bellows 2 - (Odelein) 11:05\n\t    QUE, Lapointe 1 - (Ricci) (en) 19:23\n\nPowerplay Opportunities-Canadiens 0 of 1\n\t\t\tNordiques 1 of 2\n\nShots on Goal-\tCanadiens   8  10  15  -  33\n\t\tNordiques  18  14   6  -  38\n\nMontreal Canadiens--Roy (0-2) (37 shots - 34 saves)\nQuebec Nordiques--Hextall (2-0) (33 shots - 32 saves)\n\nATT-15,399\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nBuffalo Sabres  (leads series 2-0)   2   1   1   -   4\nBoston Bruins                        0   0   0   -   0\n\n1st period: BUF, Presley 1 - (sh) 4:27\n\t    BUF, Wood 1 - (Houlder, B.Sweeney) (pp) 8:07\n\n2nd period: BUF, Mogilny 3 - (LaFontaine) 5:03\n\t   \n3rd period: BUF, Hawerchuk 1 - (Carney, Smehlik) (pp) 14:48\n\nPowerplay Opportunities-Sabres 2 of 4\n\t\t\tBruins 0 of 5\n\nShots on Goal-\tSabres   9   8   8  -  25\n\t\tBruins  14  12   8  -  34\n\nBuffalo Sabres--Fuhr (2-0) (34 shots - 34 saves)\nBoston Bruins--Moog (0-2) (10 shots - 7 saves)  Blue (5:03 second) (15 shots -\n\t       14 saves)\n\nATT-14,448\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"Hi Fellows,\n\nI Still have got bunch of 386DX-25 Intel cpu and 387DX-25 Intel \ncoprocessors.\n\n                Buy a SET for $79 + $5.00 for shipping.\n\nIndividually 80386DX-25 = $42 + $5.00 = $47.00\n   and       80387DX-25 = $42 + $5.00 = $47.00\n\nIf interested, respond here or call 408\/942-9690 Fax 408\/942-9693\n","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"I found this little gem, I don't know if anyone has any interest\/comments...\n\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nHi everyone,\n           I'm a commited Christian that is battling with a problem.  I know\nthat romans talks about how we are saved by our faith not our deeds, yet\nhebrews and james say that faith without deeds is useless, saying' You fools,\ndo you still think that just believing is enough?'\n\nNow if someone is fully believing but there life is totally lead by themselves\nand not by God, according to Romans that person is still saved by there faith.\nBut then there is the bit which says that God preferes someone who is cold to\nhim (i.e. doesn't know him - condemned) so a lukewarm Christian someone who\nknows and believes in God but doesn't make any attempt to live by the bible.\n\nNow I am of the opinion that you a saved through faith alone (not what you do)\nas taught in Romans, but how can I square up in my mind the teachings of James\nin conjunction with the lukewarm Christian being 'spat-out'\n\nCan anyone help me, this really bothers me.-- \n\nin Christ,\n\nWill\n\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n--Adam","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"\nWe cannot isolate completely, Roger, but we can make a pretty good\nestimate. I won't claim to split hairs and say that we can really\nmeasure who was better, Robby Alomar or Carlos Baerga, last year; the\ndifference is too close to call. But Larkin and Lee? Clemens and\nMorris? The differences are too great there.\n\nIn your measure of the game, why should a team that has just won it\nall ever replace a single player? Since they are now clearly \"best\",\nhow can they do better? Yet every team can always find someplace where\nthey beleive they can improve the team; they can always find a player\na little better than one they already have. (BTW, by my definitions,\nthe \"best\" player is the one who does the most things to help his team\nwin. I will allow that this could vary depending on who else is on the\nteam, by having aptitudes one team needs more than others.)\n\nBaseball is a team game, but it is made of individual talents. It is\nabsurd to judge the success or failure of an individual by the success\nor failure of his teammates, whom he did not choose (at least in most\ncases.) Morris won last year because he played on a team with Joe\nCarter, Robby Alomar, Tom Henke, Juan Guzman, John Olerud, et al.\nClemens lost because he was surrounded by such lesser performers as\nHerm Winninham, Luis Rivera, and Jeff Reardon. To define the quality\nof the team as a sum of its components (as I do, albeit imperfectly)\nis a lesser error than defining the quality of an individual as the\nmean quality of the team (as my reading of your arguments suggests you\ndo)","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"Just saw a new commercial(?) by the NRA. It starts out with a \nbunch of politicians talking about how to get rid of crime.\nThey finally realize that they need to put criminals away\nlonger but there isn't enough jail space so they decide on another gun\nlaw.( During this whole seen there quoteing various statistics on how\neasy criminals get off ) \nIn the next seen the politician is announceing on tv how this gun law \nwill get rid of crime and there is this grungy looking guy (criminal)\nwatching him on tv just laughing his ass off.\nClassic.","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"YAHOOOOOOOOO!\n\nThe Habs tied this sucker at 2 and the teams now head for Quebec\nCity to play game 5.  BTW, final score was Habs 3-Nords 2.\n\nThe score might be a bit misleading.  The Habs dominated the game\nfrom the 5:00 mark of the first and then on.  The score should have\nbeen 8-2 if it weren't for some miraculous save from a Ron Hextall\n(bastard!).  He's the reason the score was as close.  Habs winning\ngoal was scored by Benoit Brunet at 1:07 of the 3rd.\n\nRoy had an OK game.  He made the first save (one way or another)\nand the defense was there to clear any rebounds.\n\nThis just in, ESPN radio reports that the Bruins lost 6-5 in OT.\nYAHOOOOOOOOOOO!!!  Those suckers got what they deserved.\n\nLife is just great!!!! Now if my finals would go just as well!\n\nNick (I'll take off my town crier hat now)\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"My father is a huge Tiger fan, and I am a loyal Blue Jay fan, who endured the collapse of 87, the heartbreak of 85.  \n\nI don't have the stat book, so let's throw them out.\n\nFirst of all, Morris in his heyday (81-88) vs Clemens (86-present).\n\nHow many Cy Youngs does Morris have?\n\nHow many Cy youngs does Clemens have?\n\nBallparks and such... Fenway average pitchers park.  Detroit, hugh hitters\nparadise.   \n\nMorris is a great team pitcher, sort of in the Doug Drabek mold.  \nIf Morris's team needs a well pitched game, as in Minn in 91, Morris\nsnaps the ball, and throw for Ks.  Otherwise, he just tries to get people out.\n\nAs for Clemens, in the Elias Stat Book of 1992, I believe\nthat Clemens has the best lifetime record for his team, as compared to\nwhen he doesn't pitch.  How bad would the Red sox have been last year\nwithout him?  Can you say 92 Phillies?\n\nI believe Clemens is the better pitcher because of more power, and hsi\ngreat tenacity.  Morris is among the guttiest pitchers I;ve ever seen,\nbut Clemens is in a class with Seaver, Carlton, etc.  ","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"\n\namen.. I too have learned by example, specifically yours. :)\n\n\n.. but dorsai leads the way.. Unlike other services that are commercial\nin nature, dorsai is a community based service. While others charge\nmonthly fees for access, dorsai accepts donations from those who can\nafford to contribute.\n\n   While other systems don't respond to user input, dorsai thrives on it.\nOther systems sell hardware for a profit, dorsai donates hardware to\ncommunity service groups, and to individuals who couldn't afford to\nnormally.\n\n   Dorsai lives due to the \"hacker\" ethic of Charles, Jack, Skip, Cara,\nIra, Mark, David etc etc etc..  sleepless nights and days working on\nequipment thats been assembled at the embassy, ( and modifying what\never else available to work the first time..) in order to keep the\nslip line up...\n\n   Heres to you bud... I'm one of the few that decided to\nstay, and am damn glad that I did..... :)\n\n\n\n\n\n","label":1,"label_text":"comp.graphics"}
{"text":"\nWe know that sermon.  It is posted roughly every month or so by different\npersons, and that doesn't make it any better.\n\nHow did you get the idea that skeptics are closed-minded?  Why don't you\nconsider the possibility that they came to their conclusions by the\nproper methods?  Besides, one can come to a conclusion without closing\none's mind to other possibilities.\n\nI you don't agree with a person, please ask him why he thinks like that,\ninstead of insulting him.  Perhaps he's right.  Follow your own advice,\nbe open-minded.\n\nIf you don't post a bit of evidence for your claims, I'll complain that\nit's always those \"neither a real believer, nor a disbeliever\" types who \nnarrow-mindedly judge others without knowing their motives.\n","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"However valuable, this discussion does NOT belong on comp.org.acm or on\ncomp.org.ieee.  Please edit your followups to include only the appropriate\nnewsgroups.\n","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"# ## Can someone tell me why when Mr. Cramer spouts on about homosexuals,\n# ## he only addresses homosexual men, and never, in any post I've read,\n# ## addressed lesbians?\n# #\n# #I can't really speak for Mr. Cramer here, but I can say that a\n# #homosexual [male] is an entirely different animal than a lesbian.\n# #There is virtually nothing that is analogous or related between the\n# #aberrant behaviors practiced by these two groups of deviants.\n# \n# So it has nothing to do with your morals, its just that you wouldn't\n# have anything to wack off to if you didn't have tapes of Lesbians\n# going at it....\n# \n# I think we are getting closer to the truth now.\n\nNo, we are getting at Mr. Foard's sickness.  This may surprise\nhomosexuals, but lots of people in this country do NOT spend their\ntime watching pornography and masturbating.  Some of us have \nreal lives, instead of sexual compulsions.  But I don't expect\na homosexual to understand that.","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n: I agree, I had a hard feeling not believing my grand-grand mother\n: who told me of elves dancing outside barns in the early mornings.\n: I preferred not to accept it, even if her statement provided\n: the truth itself. Life is hard.\n\n\nKent,\n\nTruly a brilliant rebuttal. Apparently you are of the opinion that\nridicule is a suitable substitute for reason; you'll find plenty of\ncompany a.a","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"No, the Grand canyon is not too far away.  Short side trips to Kolob\n(between Cedar City and Hurricane) and Pipe Springs (on the way from\nHurricane to the Grand Canyon) may be interesting--they are right\noff the highway.  Pipe Springs (a small fort) gives you real insight\ninto just how the pioneers lived.  You have missed one major must\nsee attraction--Cedar Breaks in the mountains above cedar city.\nTake lots of film--they have a reason for calling this kodachrome\ncountry.  Natural Bridges in the four corners area is also very\nscenic, but may be too far off your route.  Monument valley is\nspectacular, but again may be too far away.","label":8,"label_text":"rec.motorcycles"}
{"text":"\n\n\nIt's actually a bug in the Solaris 2.1 kernel. We could add a workaround to\nxterm. open should never return EINVAL, but it does :-(\n\nI didn't have time to update the R5.SunOS5 patch lately, but non\nof the existing problems seem to warrant a new set of patches.\n\n\nXDM coulda also keep the XDM environment variable. It should have inherited\nit from the environment.\n","label":5,"label_text":"comp.windows.x"}
{"text":"I have the following machine for sale:\n\n Zenith 386, 20MHz machine\n 40 MB Hard disk\n 3.5 inch 1.44 MB Floppy drive\n 5.25 1.2 MB Floppy drive\n 2 MB of RAM\n VGA card\n ZCM 1492 FTM (Flat Tension Mask) VGA Color monitor\n        Flat screen , Non-Glare\n 101 Key Keyboard, 2 Serial ports, 1 Parallel port\n\n Original manuals that it came with.\n\nIn excellent condition. $1100.00 or best (reasonable) offer.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\nYes a flotation tank, combined with floride breathing water(REF: the Abyss\nbreathing solution I think).. also the right position of the astronaut and\nstrapping you can probably get much more than 45gs in an accesloration..\nMore like near 100g (or somewhat less)..\n\nSaw I book called the \"Time Master\" (I thjink that was the title) that had some\nideas on how fast and all you could go..","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"\n\nYou are right, Michael.\n\nIn John 3:5, Jesus says, \"Amen, amen, I say to you, no one can enter the\nkingdom of God without being born of water and Spirit.\"  That's really what\nHe said, and He meant it.  That verse is the definition of baptism.  I don't\nhave the law book in front of me, but there is a canon law that urges\nparents to baptize their children within one week of birth for the very\nreason that you state.\n\n","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}
{"text":"Hi ! I am trying to develop a utility to view WORD for window file. But to do that I need to know the format of the DOC ( word for window file format ) files.Can anybody  tell me what is the format of DOC file or direct me where can I get it. Or is it proprietory format ?\nYour help is greatly appriciated.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"Which 486 CPU will give the better performance on math intensive programs, a\n486-66 DX2 or a 486-50 DX?\n\nThanks in advance,","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nDo you notice that _nobody_ on the team is willing to take charge?\nA dominant defenceman would be nice....too bad Schneider got hurt.\nHe reminds me of Chris Chelios sometimes.  Speaking of Chelios, I \nwonder if Serge Savard feels like a moron for making that trade.\nI also wish we still had Corson.\n\nRob Ramage on the ice is less useful than a Gatorade bottle on the \nbench.\n\nVincent Damphousse has decided to take a vacation, apparently.  I have\nno idea why Demers is playing Denis Savard on the checking line with\nCarbonneau.  Savard is skating well, and is one of the only dangerous\nCanadiens in Quebec's zone with the puck.  Too bad nobody is in front\nmost of the time.\n\nDo you also notice that in the defensive zone, not a single Nordique\ngets knocked down?  It's disgusting.  We also have Lebeau (5'10\", 172)\ngetting pasted at centre ice by Wolaninn (6'3\", 205) with no reply\nfrom the team, except to yell for a penalty.  Dammit, Denis Savard \nthrew the best (only?) Montreal hit of the night when he knocked\nSundin off-balance.  When Denis Savard is your team's enforcer, there's\nbig trouble someplace...\n\n\nAside from that second goal, Roy did stand on his head.  The third \nperiod at least provided something to look forward to.  Habs won the\nperiod, IMO, and I guess somebody finally came along to smack them a\ncouple of times in the second intermission to remind them that a game\nhad started at 7:30.  Hopefully they play that way at home.  Roy made \nthe saves (we'll ignore that second goal), so now it's up to the team.\n\n\n--\ndchhabra@stpl.ists.ca\n","label":10,"label_text":"rec.sport.hockey"}
{"text":"\nMy last car had T-Tops (BIG T-Tops).  My current car is a convertible.\nIMHO, if you're after that 'convertible feel', T-Tops, open-top,\nsunroofs, moonroofs, whatever, just don't cut it.  There's no\nsubstitute for a convertible.  If you're not after that sun beating\ndown on you, the wind in your hair and teeth, the flopsum and\njetsum getting in the car and the noises associated with the\nwhooshing of the wind, you're not after that 'convertible feel'.\nSo go with something with at least a hole above the driver but don't call\nit a convertible.\n\nAnd I do wonder how those targa tops would compare against my roll\nbar in a rollover situation.  Of course, I'd rather not test it\nin MY car.  I, too, am in my early 40s.\n\nA convertible--accept no substitute.","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"Our firm is in a position to either sell or lease  the serverses\nof one AN-12 air cargo transport aircraft  (with the complete\ntechnical repair in 1993 ).\n\nTerms of Delivery:\n\n1. The price of the aircraft is $840000.\n\n2. The price of leasing is $42800 per month with the guarantee\n    flight time more than 60 hours.\n\n    This price includes :\n        a) the price of the aircraft.\n        b) the price of insurance of the aircraft and the pilots.\n\n   The price of leasing does not include :\n        a) the fuel price.\n        b) the price of technical service.\n        c) taxes , airport taxes, air navigations expenses, the\n               payments of hangspace.\n        d) loading,  unloading and  insurance cargo.\n        e) days payments for pilot, food and accomodation\n               expenses,transport expenses.\n\nTerms are negotiable.\n\nIf you are interested, please contact at your earliest convenients.\n\nRespectedly Yours.\n\nAndrey Divaev.\n\nMOSCOW tel: (095) 305-71-30  fax: (095) 305-72-60","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
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{"text":"I just heard on CNN that the Texas Rangers found an M60 machine gun\nin the BD compound Rubble.  The newscaster called this a new hi-tech\nmilitary weapon!  HA HA!!  I would bet that it is that Rock Armory\nM60 semi-auto, or that it was leagally owned and the tax was paid.\n\nWhat year was the M60 patented?","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"Archive-name: atheism\/overview\nAlt-atheism-archive-name: overview\nLast-modified: 20 April 1993\nVersion: 1.3\n\n                                   Overview\n\nWelcome to alt.atheism and alt.atheism.moderated.\n\nThis is the first in a series of regular postings aimed at new readers of the\nnewsgroups.\n\nMany groups of a 'controversial' nature have noticed that new readers often\ncome up with the same questions, mis-statements or misconceptions and post\nthem to the net.  In addition, people often request information which has\nbeen posted time and time again.  In order to try and cut down on this, the\nalt.atheism groups have a series of five regular postings under the following\ntitles:\n\n   1.  Alt.Atheism FAQ: Overview for New Readers\n   2.  Alt.Atheism FAQ: Introduction to Atheism\n   3.  Alt.Atheism FAQ: Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)\n   4.  Alt.Atheism FAQ: Constructing a Logical Argument\n   5.  Alt.Atheism FAQ: Atheist Resources\n\nThis is article number 1.  Please read numbers 2 and 3 before posting.  The\nothers are entirely optional.\n\nIf you are new to Usenet, you may also find it helpful to read the newsgroup\nnews.announce.newusers.  The articles titled \"A Primer on How to Work With\nthe Usenet Community\", \"Answers to Frequently Asked Questions about Usenet\"\nand \"Hints on writing style for Usenet\" are particularly relevant.  Questions\nconcerning how news works are best asked in news.newusers.questions.\n\nIf you are unable to find any of the articles listed above, see the \"Finding\nStuff\" section below.\n\n\n                                   Credits\n\nThese files could not have been written without the assistance of the many\nreaders of alt.atheism and alt.atheism.moderated.  In particular, I'd like to\nthank the following people:\n\nkck+@cs.cmu.edu (Karl Kluge)\nperry@dsinc.com (Jim Perry)\nNETOPRWA@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu (Wayne Aiken)\nchpetk@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Toby Kelsey)\njkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)\ngeoff.arnold@East.Sun.COM (Geoff Arnold)\ntorkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen)\nkmldorf@utdallas.edu (George Kimeldorf)\nroe2@quads.uchicago.edu (Greg Roelofs)\narromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)\nmadhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann)\nJ5J@psuvm.psu.edu (John A. Johnson)\ndgraham@bmers30.bnr.ca (Douglas Graham)\nmayne@open.cs.fsu.edu (William Mayne)\najr@bigbird.hri.com (Andy Rosen)\nstoesser@ira.uka.de (Achim Stoesser)\nbosullvn@unix1.tcd.ie (Bryan O'Sullivan)\nlippard@ccit.arizona.edu (James J. Lippard)\ns1b3832@rigel.tamu.edu (S. Baum)\nydobyns@phoenix.princeton.edu (York H. Dobyns)\nschroede@sdsc.edu (Wayne Schroeder)\nbaldwin@csservera.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin)\nD_NIBBY@unhh.unh.edu (Dana Nibby)\ndempsey@Kodak.COM (Richard C. Dempsey)\njmunch@hertz,elee.calpoly.edu (John David Munch)\npdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley)\nrz@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Richard Zach)\ntycchow@math.mit.edu (Tim Chow)\nsimon@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Simon Clippingdale)\nPHIMANEN@cc.helsinki.fi (Pekka Himanen)\n\n...and countless others I've forgotten.\n\nThese articles are free.  Truly free.  You may copy them and distribute them\nto anyone you wish.  However, please send any changes or corrections to the\nauthor, and please do not re-post copies of the articles to alt.atheism; it\ndoes nobody any good to have multiple versions of the same document floating\naround the network.\n\n\n                                Finding Stuff\n\nAll of the FAQ files *should* be somewhere on your news system.  Here are\nsome suggestions on what to do if you can't find them:\n\n1. Check the newsgroup alt.atheism.  Look for subject lines starting with\n   \"Alt.Atheism FAQ:\".\n\n2. Check the newsgroup news.answers for the same subject lines.\n\n   If you don't find anything in steps 1 or 2, your news system isn't set up\n   correctly, and you may wish to tell your system administrator about the\n   problem.\n\n3. If you have anonymous FTP access, connect to rtfm.mit.edu [18.70.0.226].\n   Go to the directory \/pub\/usenet\/alt.atheism, and you'll find the latest\n   versions of the FAQ files there.\n\n   FTP is a a way of copying files between networked computers.  If you\n   need help in using or getting started with FTP, send e-mail to\n   mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with\n\n      send usenet\/news.answers\/ftp-list\/faq\n\n   in the body.\n\n4. There are other sites which also carry news.answers postings.  The article\n   \"Introduction to the news.answers newsgroup\" carries a list of these\n   sites; the article is posted regularly to news.answers.\n\n5. If you don't have FTP, send mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu\n   consisting of the following lines:\n\n      send usenet\/news.answers\/finding-sources\n      send usenet\/alt.atheism\/faq\n      send usenet\/alt.atheism\/introduction\n      send usenet\/alt.atheism\/logic\n      send usenet\/alt.atheism\/resources\n\n5. (Penultimate resort)  Send mail to mail-server@mantis.co.uk consisting of\n   the following lines:\n\n      send atheism\/faq\/faq.txt\n      send atheism\/faq\/logic.txt\n      send atheism\/faq\/intro.txt\n      send atheism\/faq\/resource.txt\n\n   and our poor overworked modems will try and send you a copy of the files.\n   There's other stuff, too; interesting commands to try are \"help\" and\n   \"send atheism\/index\".\n\n6. (Last resort)  Mail mathew@mantis.co.uk, or post an article to the\n   newsgroup asking how you can get the FAQ files.  You should only do this\n   if you've tried the above methods and they've failed; it's not nice to\n   clutter the newsgroup or people's mailboxes with requests for files.\n   it's better than posting without reading the FAQ, though!  For instance,\n   people whose email addresses get mangled in transit and who don't have \n   FTP will probably need assistance obtaining the FAQ files.\n","label":0,"label_text":"alt.atheism"}
{"text":"I'm using a QIC-compatible 250MB streamer, and I really like it.\nBut now a terrible typo in an archive description drives me mad ervery time.\nIs there any software which can rename, or even better, delete such archives?\nAny help really appreciated.\n\n\n","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nWhy can't he record it legally?  It may not be admissable in court, but\nrecording for personal use is legal.  If he wants to play it for his ham\nfriend, that's legal too, as long as he doesn't charge admission.\n\n\nHere, Here!\n\nIt doesn't actually have to be 1500 watts at 100 feet.  I've heard radio\ntransmissions from concert security over guitar amps with no guitar plugged\nin, and security uses radios transmitting 2-5 watts into a rubber duck antenna,\nwhich acts more like a dummy load than an antenna.\n\nHey Bill, where were you three weeks ago when all this stuff was posted\nand dealt with?","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"Sounds a little odd but I sold an Amiga hand scanner to\nan elementary school teacher in south Florida (Miami, I\nthink) but I have just recently found that I still have\nthe scanner manual.  The original shipment included the\nsoftware manual, disks, packaging, etc.\n\nBasically, I have since lost the name & address of the \b\nperson I  sold it to...and I would like to get it to him.\n\nIf that person sees this, please send me an email to:\n\ndlneal@cbda9.apgea.army.mil\n\nthanx, and sorry for taking up net space.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\n\n\n    Yes, so?  You still haven't explained why they \n    can't be used to enforce Civil Law.  They certainly\n    would have done a better job of Koresh.  Just call\n    in an air strike.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\n\nIt sorta depends on what you drive. I remember running a two channel \nMotorola with a vibrator power supply and about 40 tubes in a 1958 \nVolkwagen. The poor little 6 V generator had a heck of a time, and if you \nkeyed the mic at night, you needed to be stationary, because your lights \ngot AWFUL DIM. Isn't progress wonderful?\n","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"The following statement was released\non February 27,1992 by the Science &\nEnvironmental Policy Project\n\nAs independent scientists researching atmosphere and climate problems, we are \nconcerned by the agenda for UNCED, the United Nations Conference on \nEnvironment and Development, being developed by environmental and  activists \ngroups and certain political leaders. This so called \"Earth Summit\" is \nscheduled to convene in  Brazil in June 1992 and aims to impose a system of \nglobal envionmental regulations, including onerous taxes on energy fuels, on \nthe population of the United States and other industrialized nations.\nSuch policy initiatives derive from highly uncetain scientific theories. They \nare based on the unsupported assumption that catastrophic global warming \nfollows from the burning of fossill fuels and requires immediate action. We \ndo not agree. \nA survey of U.S. Atmospheric scientists, conducted in the summer of 1991, \nconfirms that there is  no consesensus about the cause of the slight warming \nobserved during the past century. A recently published research paper even \nsuggests sunspot variability (which is directly proportional to solar \nactivity),  rather  than a rise in greenhouse gases is responsible for the \nglobal temperature increases and decreases recoded since about 1880.\nFuthermore, the majority of scientific participants in the survey agreed that \nthe theoretical climate climate models used to predict a future warming \ncannot be relied upon and are not validated by the existing climate record. \nYet all predictions are based on such theoretical models.\nFinally, agriculturalits generally agree that any increase in carbon dioxide \nlevels from fossil fuels burning has beneficial effects on most crops and on \nworld food supply.\nWe are disturbed that activists, anxious to stop energy and economic growth, \nare pushing ahead with drastic policies without taking notice of recent \nchanges in the underlying science. We fear that the rush to impose global \nregulations will have catastrophic impacts on the world economy, on jobs, \nstandards of living, and health care, with the most severe consequences \nfalling on developing countries and the  poor.\nDavid B. Aubrey, PhD, Senior Scintist, Woods  Hole Oceanographic Institute. \nNathaniel B. Guttman, PhD, Research Physical Scientist, National Climatic \nData Center. Hugh B. Ellsaesser, PhD, Meteorologist, Lawerence Livermore \nNational Laboratory. Richard Lindzen, PhD, Center for Meteorology and \nPhysical Meteorolgy, Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Robert C. \nBalling, PhD, Director, Laboratory of Climatology, Arizona State University.\nPatrick Micheals, PhD, Assoc. Professor of Environmental Sciences, \nUniversityy of Virginia. Roger Pielke, PhD, Professor of Atmospheric Science, \nColorado State University. Micheal Garstang, PhD, Professor of Meteorology, \nUniversity of Virginia. Sherwood P. Idso, PhD, Research Physicist, U.S. Water \nConservation Laboratory.\nLev S. Gandin PhD, Visiting Scientist, National Center for Atmospheric \nResearch. John A. McGinley, Chief, Forecast Research group, Forecast Systems \nLaboratory, NOAA. H. Jean Thiebaux, PhD, Research Scientist, National \nMeterological Center, National Weather Service, NOAA. Kenneth V. Beard, PhD, \nProfessor of Atmospheric Physics, University of Illinois. Paul W. Mielke, Jr. \nPhD, Professor, Department of Statistics, Colorado State University. Thomas \nLockhart, Meteorological Standards Institute.\nPeter F. Giddings, Meterologist, Weather Service Director. Hazen A. bedke, \nMeteoroligist, Former Regional Director, National Weather Service.\n\n\nGabriel T. Csanady, PhD, Eminent Professor, Old Dominion University. Roy \nLeep, Executive Weather Director, Gillet Weather Data Services. Terrance J. \nClark, Meteorologist, U.S. Air Force. Neil L. Frank, PhD, Meteorologist, \nNational Weather service. Bruce A. Boe, PhD, Director, North Dakota \nAtmospheric Resource Board. Andrew Detweiler, PhD, Assoc. Professor, \nInstitute of Atmospheric Sciences, South Dakota School of Mines And \nTechnology.\nRobert M. Cunningham, Consulting Meteorologist, Fellow, American \nMeteorological Society. Stephen R. Hanna, PhD, Sigma Research Corporation, \nElliot Abrams, Meteoroligist, Senior Vice President, AccuWeather, Inc. \nWilliam E. Reifsnyder, PhD, Consulting Meteorologist, professor Emeritus, \nForest Meteorology, Yale University. David W. Reylnolds, Research \nmeteorologist. Jerry A. Williams, Meteorologist, President, Ocean Routes, \nInc.\nLee W. Eddington, Meteorologist, Geophysics Division, Pacific Missile test \nCenter.Werner A Braum, PhD, Former Dean, College of Arts & Sciences, Florida \nState University.David P. Rodgers, PhD, Assoc. Professor of Research \nOceanography, Scripps Institution of Oceanograghy. Brian Fiedler, PhD, Asst \nprofessor of Meteorology, University of Oaklahoma.\nEdward A. Brandes, Meterologist. Melvyn Shapiro, Chief of Meteorological \nResearch Wave Propagation Laboratory, NOAA. Joesph Zabransky, Jr., Associate \nprofessor of Meteorology, Plymouth State College. James A. Moore, Project \nManager, Research Applications program, national Center for Atmospheric \nResearch. Daniel J McNaughton, ENSR Consultating and Engineering. Brian \nSussman, Meteorologist, Fellow, American Meteorologist, fellow, American \nMeteorological Society. H Read McGrath, PhD, Meteorologist. Robert E. \nZabrecky, Meteorologist.\nWilliam  M. Porch, PhD, Atmospheric Physicist, Los Alamos national \nLaboratory. Earle R. Williams, PhD, Associate Profesor of Meteorology, Dept. \nof Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of \nTechnology. S. Fred Singer, PhD, Atmospheric Physsicist, University of \nVirginia, Director, Science & Environmental Policy Project. (Affilitions \nlisted are for identification purposes only).\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\n\nIt isn't that bad.  At least the Bugatti EB110 has compound curves compared\nto the slab sides on the Consulier.  And the Bugatti has a quad turbo V-12\n(thing of it as 4 three cylinder turbo engines tied together).  Also Ettore\nBugatti's nephew is on the board of directors and had a hand in the\ndevelopment.  So that's about as much Bugatti as you are likely to get in\ntoday's world.  Much like Enzo Ferrari's illegitamate son being allowed to\ntake over part of Ferrari as well... \n\n\nThat's funny.  I have motorcylclist friends who say the same about `cages'. \n:-)\n\nMost GP 500cc motorcycles are V-4s, and the VF line of Hondas were all V-4s\n(from the VF-400F through the VF-1000F, including the RC30 race bike and\nthe present VFR-750F).  It should be noted that Lancia built a V-4 in\nrecent history in the Fulvia HF, a very pretty Italian coupe. \n","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"I am interested to know if there is know procedure\/document to\nconfigure an IBM Musci Feature (IMF) card to work as the sound device\nwith MS-Windows 3.1.  I believe the IMF uses the same FM synth chip as\nthe Soun Blaster, but didn't know what driver to use or how to\nconfigure the MIDI-mapper.\n\nAny help, past success, suggestions?\n\nThanks,\n\nDon.","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"FILES=30\nBUFFERS=30\nDEVICE=C:\\WINDOWS\\HIMEM.SYS\nDEVICE=C:\\WINDOWS\\SMARTDRV.EXE \/DOUBLE_BUFFER\nSTACKS=9,256\n\nand also my autoexec.bat\n\nC:\\vshield\nC:\\WINDOWS\\SMARTDRV.EXE \/L\nrem ***************** MouseWare 5.0 Setup ******************\nPATH=C:\\;c:\\dos;C:\\WINDOWS;C:\\FAX;C:\\MOUSE;C:\\WP51\\;\nSET TEMP=C:\\WINDOWS\\TEMP\nMOUSE SER 2\nrem ********************************************************\nc:\\dos\\share\n\nHave you seen this problem before? Please help me out...\n\nthanks","label":2,"label_text":"comp.os.ms-windows.misc"}
{"text":"A repost from talk.religion.misc,talk.politics.guns,soc.culture.jewish:\n\nFrom: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)\nSubject: Re: Who's next?  Mormons and Jews?\nDate: 20 Apr 1993 19:15:13 GMT\nOrganization: Stratus Computer, Inc.\n\n\n\n\nAll government claims.  If they were really stocking such weapons for\nArmageddon, how come they never used them?\n\n\n\"The time is coming.  Those of you who have no sword, sell your shirt and\n buy one... And they told him, Master, we have two swords.  And he said, It \n is enough.\"  (LUKE ...)\n\n\"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,\n but the sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father,\n and the daugher against her mother...\"  (MATT 10 34-35)\n\n\nJust maybe you won't be home.  Then you can come home to something \nlike this:\n\n    \"Well, it's been a rough month,\" begins Johnnie Lawmaster.  \"I\n just get laid off, and my divorce became final.  But I just wasn't\n ready for what happened this particular Monday.\"\n\n    That particular Monday was was December 16, the first day of the\n Bill of Rights' third century, the day when federal agents and local\n law enforcement officer broke into the house in Tulsa that always flew\n the U.S. flag.  When Lawmaster drove into the driveway that bleak\n afternoon, one of his neighbors had some news.\n\n    \"'Ohmigod, John, you are in big trouble!' my neighbor tells me.\n 'Sixty police, federal agents and the bomb squad busted in you house,\n kicked down the door, cut locks off your gun safe.'  I couldn't\n believe it.  Then I walked inside.  What a nightmare.\"\n\n    It was no nightmare; it was horribly real life.  Apparently acting\n on information the Lawmaster possessed an illegal firearm, some thirty\n agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (BATF) teamed up\n with state and Tulsa police authorities, search warrant in hand, to\n search for a \"Colt, AR-15, .223 caliber machine gun, unknown serial\n number.\"  The warrant, issued by U.S. Magistrate John Leo Wagner, also\n authorized agents to seize \"any tools used in the alteration or\n modification of firearms, such as files or drills; documents, papers,\n books, records, and other tangible properties which identify occupants\n or owners of the property to be searched....\"\n\n    Reports vary, but according to neighbors, the joint task force\n operation aimed at the unemployed warehouseman from a nearby hospital\n involved some 60 agents and local law enforcement personnel against\n Lawmaster.  They cordoned off the street; took station with weapons\n drawn in the back yard; used a battering ram to break through the\n front door; kicked in the back door; broke into his gun safe; threw\n personal papers around the house; spilled boxes of ammunition on the\n floor; broke into a small, locked box that contained precious coins;\n stood on a table to peer through the ceiling tiles, breaking the table\n in the process.  Then, they left.  The doors were closed but not\n latched, much less locked.  The ammo and guns were left unsecured.\n\n    \"My front and back doors were pulled shut, but they were busted\n through and couldn't latch.  Anybody could have waltzed in there and\n stolen everything I own.  A child could have taken a gun.  The guns,\n the safe -- everything was open and laying around.  I keep all my\n magazines empty, but someone had loaded them.  While I was looking\n around in amazement, the gas, electric and water companies show up to\n turn the power off.  They said they were told to shut things down.\n Then I found the note.  \"Nothing Found - ATF.\"\n\n    \"They didn't make any attempt to notify me.  I've lived in Tulsa\n all my life and never got more than a traffic ticket.  How come they\n can't look that up, realize I've been law-abiding my whole life, then\n come to the door when I'm home?  They didn't leave someone here to\n watch over my private property.  They didn't even come by to explain\n what happened.  They just raided my home, ransaked it, left it wide\n open and left.\"\n\n    Lawmaster placed a phone call to the local BATF agent.  \"I asked,\n 'Are you gonna' arrest me?' and he said, 'No.'  I asken him, \"Who is\n going to repair and clean up my house?'  And he said, \"If you're going\n to talk to me, come down to my office.'\n\n    \"'I can't come down!' I said.  'My doors are broken!'  If I had\n been on vacation and I didn't have friendly neighbors, I would have\n lost everything I own.  Here I am a competent, responsible firearms\n owner, and the government leaves them open, unlocked, with ammo strewn\n around.\"\n\n    Lawmaster said the agent advised him, \"If you want your door to\n lock and your gun safe to lock, you're gonna' have to pay for it\n yourself.\"\n\n    \"'Oh, I'll come right down, alright,' I told him.  'I'll come\n down, but I'll bring my attorney.'  And he said, 'Well, you bring\n your attorney, and we won't talk to you.'\"\n\n\nSo if you don't want your tea party to be held in awkward silence, make\nsure your lawyer isn't there, there's a good chap.\n\n\n\nWhat a repulsive outlook on society.  \"Followers of unusual religions\nmay be killed by the government -- it simply can't be helped in a free\nsociety.\"\n\nYou and I have two different concepts of \"free.\"\n-- ","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
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{"text":"\nI think it was - he went into town fairly often, and was known to go\njogging.  This was even during the 9 month period when he was being\nwatched.  One wonders why the BATF went ahead, when they had been warned\naccording to an interview with a BATF agent, that the BD were expecting\nthem, and why they had the media in tow.  Almost looks like they wanted\nto have a romp and a nice show for the media, and it all went to hell...\n\nHe was also never known to act violently.  He has always surrendered\npeacefully before (but of course, the warrants were served peacefully).\nHe has been tried on the allegations before and found NOT GUILTY.\n\nThe justification for this mess was he was alleged to have purchased\n$200,000.00 worth of guns and stuff (over an undetermined time period).\nLast I heard this is not a crime, or indication of one.  I know of an\nINDIVIDUAL with that much value in guns.  SHould he get a fly-thru-the-door\nshoot-first-talk-later raid?  (grenades are shooting first, nobody I\nknow of can say 'oh, thats only a stun grenade, thats OK...').  Can you?\nI sure cannot.  Also, one cannot be sure that 200K figure is not calculated\nlike the Feds calculate the value of a drug siezure...  Even so, it\nis a 'so what' issue...  He wasn't bothering anyone (besides the\nBATF who doesn't like folks other than themselves or other govt\npeople having any effective guns)... and having an unapproved\nreligeous group.  Are we required to not offend the BATF these\ndays?  I sure hope it hasn't come to THAT...\n\nMY point is, it DOES NOT ADD UP.  We need an independent investigation,\nand NOW.  Assuming other than FBI\/BATF are preserving the evidence.\n\n\nThey had the premisis bugged.  I am inclined to think a further wait\nwould have saved lives.  One wonders why they didn't have emergency\ngear on hand when they moved, and why they didn't turn on the water\nwhen a fire was observed, instead of saying \"aw, gee, there is no water\".\n\nWhy so long before the fire gear even SHOWED UP - like after the building\nhad pretty much finished burning?  Fireman safety?  Isn't that a decision\nthe firefighters should be allowed to make?  No water?  Why didn't\nthe Feds TURN IT BACK ON?  They sure could cut it off quickly enough...\n\nOne does wonder about the possibility of 'settling scores'...\n\n\nWhat does 'taking responsibility' mean?  You think she is going to be\nfacing jail time if the acts were found to be criminal?  You think\nshe is going to face ANY repercussions if the FBI\/BATF are found to\nhave acted wrongly?  I don't.  It is a nice PR gimmick, though.\n\nI am not assured there will even be a serious independent investigation\nfor possible wrongdoing or criminal acts on the part of the BATF or FBI.\nI expect to hear \"they are our best law enforcement.  They wouldn't do\nanything like that - NO WAY.  OUT of the QUESTION.  End of issue\".\n\nI want to see an INDEPENDENT investigation, with full prosecuting and\nsubpoena powers.  With felony prosecution where felony acts are found.\nFat chance, I bet.  I bet the Justice Dept will have an internal\ninvestigation which will turn up at most 'poor judgement'.\n\nI hope I am wrong, that this is gone over with a fine tooth comb.\n","label":16,"label_text":"talk.politics.guns"}
{"text":"-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----\n\n\n[...]\n[...]\n\n\n\nAs far as I can see, no matter how the session keys are generated (be it\nDiffie-Hellman or whatever), any Cripple conversation which travels in\nwhole or in part over a land-line is vulnerable to this scheme.  Law-\nenforcement agencies can do it legally at the telco, or illegally by finding\nsome part of the phone line that they can cut into.  The degree of risk\ndepends very much on location - not good in the middle of a busy street,\nbut not bad on a line in open country (leading to a drug lord's ranch).  The\nonly way to defeat it would be if your phone had the equivalent of a public\nkey indexed against phone number for every phone you might want to call (all\nof them) - totally impractical, even if some part of the Cripple algorithm\ncould be used as a kind of public key (I don't understand enough about these\nthings to know).\n\nThis sort of encryption scheme is only really workable over a radio link,\nand even then you could probably interevene without causing problems for\nother phones nearby if you were physically close to the target phone.\n\nGosh, yet another way to get round Cripple encryption.  How many is that\nwe've found so far?  And that's without even knowing the details of the\nalgorithm.\n\n- --Paul\n\n-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----\nVersion: 2.2","label":11,"label_text":"sci.crypt"}
{"text":"Can anyone point me to a cross compiler and\/or assembler for the Motorola\n68008, hosted by a PC compatible.  Preferable Free or Shareware.  \n\nAlso does anyone know of a GNU CC port to this chip.","label":12,"label_text":"sci.electronics"}
{"text":"First off, if I'm not mistaken, only hibernating animals have brown fat,\nnot humans.\n\nSecondly, your description sounds just like 2,4-dinitrophenol.  This is an\nuncoupler of respiratory chain oxidative phosphorylation.  Put in layman's\nterms, it short-circuits the mitochondria, causing food energy to be\nturned into heat.\n\n2,4-DNP was popular in the 1930's for weight reduction.  In controlled\namounts, it raises body temperature as the body compensates for the\nreduced amount of useful energy available.  It is very dangerous.\nIt would be wiser to adjust to your present body form, rather than\nplay around with 2,4-DNP.","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Urgent help needed. Daughter has SE 30 and Imagewriter II. Worked well until\nyesterday. Now when she tries to print from Macwrite II or Acta the printing\nmessage comes on, but not printing! Bought new cable, still no printing. Moved\ncable to modem port, still no printing! I'm a DOS person and don't know where\nto begin. Are there diagnostics for a MAC?\n","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":": \n: >move a little, the pain will be excrutiating. I was told by my doctor\n: >at that time that the pain was comparable to that of childbirth. (Yes,\n: >by a male doctor, so I'm sure some of you women will disagree). I'd\n: >really like to know the truth in this, so maybe some of you women who\n: >have had a baby and a kidney stone could fill me in. \n: \n: One more reason for men to learn the Lamaze breathing techniques, in order\n: to be able to get some pain reduction instantly, wherever you are.\n: -- \n: :-  Michael A. Covington, Associate Research Scientist        :    *****\n: :-  Artificial Intelligence Programs      mcovingt@ai.uga.edu :  *********\n: :-  The University of Georgia              phone 706 542-0358 :   *  *  *\n: :-  Athens, Georgia 30602-7415 U.S.A.     amateur radio N4TMI :  ** *** **  <><\n\nIt would have been pretty difficult to practice my hee hee's while I was\nkeeled over pukeing my guts out though.\n\n--","label":13,"label_text":"sci.med"}
{"text":"Ok, so I've heard about Comtrade, Gateway, TC, and various others.  What\nabout your impressions\/dealings with Dell, Ariel Design, Austin, Insight,\nRoyal, and HD computers?\n\nResponses by E-Mail are preferred because they reduce Usenet bandwidth.  I will\nsummarize the responses with another posting in a week.\n \n\n--\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n Blake Buhlig                                        Colorado State University\n bb760597@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu            Electrical\/Computer Engineering","label":3,"label_text":"comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware"}
{"text":"\nPut up or shut up. Where is your evidence?\nShow a study indicating a link between liking >>GROWN UPS<< of the same\nsex and liking children. Saying that 30% of molested children are male\nshows nothing since it tells you nothing of the molesters preference\nin adults (if they have any at all). \n\n\nThe politicians will have plenty to be scared of in one week be it 1% or\n90%.\n\n\nI'm sure there will be a few non queers, but the vast majority are\nqueer.\n","label":18,"label_text":"talk.politics.misc"}
{"text":"\tA few things about the University. It is more fun than some may\nadmit. Partying does go on and it has consistently been ranked\none of Playboy's top party schools. But we do study and more\nimportantly learn a lot. The overall UVa drug use is actually\nlower than the average college in the U.S. \n\tThere is no hate law on the books even though they (The\nforces of PC) tried to have one last year( by the way a similar\nlaw at the University of Wisconsin ? was found unconstitutional\nlast year). There is a law\nagainst relationship of professors with their students or\nadvisees that just passed. \n\tThomas Jefferson was the sole author of the Virginia\nstatute for religious freedom(the basis for the first ten\namendments), though he is not given full credit for righting\nthe bill of rights. So someone who picked on me for that is\nright. \n\tBy the way, we're the man in everything. Sports\nacademics and partying. I'm sure a lot of other schools are\ngood at what they do as well, so don't start mailing me junk.\nI'm happy where I am and maybe I'll go to one of y'alls medical\nschools in a couple of years.\n","label":17,"label_text":"talk.politics.mideast"}
{"text":"1954 MG-TF with frame-up restoration in early '70's - a local show winner!\nDriven very little and stored inside since then - mostly collected dirt &\ndust.  Needs attention to brake cylinders (like all MG-T's) but otherwise\nready to run.  Chrome & paint not fancy but it is mechanically excellent.\nThe engine, a 1250cc, was completely overhauled by a machine shop.  It is\npriced at $12,000.\n\n1953 MG-TD Good shape but hasn't been run since '70's.  Needs engine work,\nbut no rust and everything is with it including a top, side curtains and\ncarpet that were new and haven't seen the outdoors since the '70's. $9,500.\n\n1952 MG-TD Basket Case.  I'd call it a parts car, but it's too good\nfor that.  Everything seems to be there except the tach.  Would make\na good project car or parts car if you insist.  No apparent rust but the\nupholstery is a disaster.  Stored inside since the '70's.  The top was\nnew but now soso.  This one has wire wheels!  Looking for $4,500.\n\nAll three cars will be sold \"as they stand\" with no hassles or haggles.\nTime has passed by and it is time to part company.  Prices are negotiable.\n\nReply via matthews@Oswego.oswego.edu or   U.S. mail to: P. O. Box 1015\n                                       315-341-3501   Oswego, NY 13126\n\n\n-- ","label":7,"label_text":"rec.autos"}
{"text":"\n   Henry, if I read you correctly, you may be asking \"If I put a blackbody\nin interstellar space ('disregarding the Sun and nearby large warm objects'),\nwhat termperature will it reach in thermal equilibrium with the ambient\nradiation field?\"\n\n   If that's the case, let me point out that interstellar dust and \nmolecules provide many instances of things that are, well, not-too-far\nfrom being blackbodies.  Many different observations, including IRAS\nand COBE, have determined that interstellar dust grain temperatures\ncan range from 40K to 150K.  You might look in a conference proceedings\n\"Interstellar Processes\", ed. D. J. Hollenbach and H. A. Thronson, Jr.,\npublished in 1987.  Try the articles by Tielens et al., Seab, and \nBlack.\n\n   Inside the disk of the galaxy, the temperature varies quite a bit\nfrom place to place (how close are you to the nearest OB association,\nI would guess).  Outside the galaxy, of course, things aren't so \nvaried.\n\n   I hope this is what you were looking for....\n","label":14,"label_text":"sci.space"}
{"text":"about\nthem on\n\nActually, I thought Macs were suppoused to be restarted once a day.\n--\nJim Smyton  (smytonj@alleg.edu)      ","label":4,"label_text":"comp.sys.mac.hardware"}
{"text":"I sent a version of this post out a while ago, but it was swallowed by\nthe void.  My apologies if anyone ends up receiving it.\n\n\n\nOh no, I wasn't confused -- I understood that it was your personal\nopinion.  But I thought we were discussing the need to shorten\ngames.  The arguments which declare this need seem to hinge on\nthe assertion that long games bore people and otherwise discourage\nthem from going to the ballpark.  I'd like to see if the increased\nlength of games has negatively affected attendance.  If it has, then\nthere *is* a problem, and something should be done about it.  If it\nhasn't, then there *isn't* a problem, and there's no need to monkey\nwith things as they are.","label":9,"label_text":"rec.sport.baseball"}
{"text":"I have this kit which includes the following :\n\n1)\t82c84a\/82c84a-5\n\tCHMOS CLOCK GENERATOR AND DRIVER\n\tFOR 8086,80C88 PROCESSORS\n2)\t27C64\/87C64\n\t64K(8Kx8) CHMOS UV ERASABLE PROM\n3)\t51C259L\n\tLOW POWER 64K x 4\n\tCHMOS DYNAMIC RAM\n4)\t82C59A-2\n\tCHMOS PROGRAMMABLE INTERRUPT CONTROLLER\n5)\t82C88\n\tCHMOS BUS CONTROLLER\n\tFRO 80C86,80C88 PROCESSORS\n6)\t80C88\/80C88-2\n\t8-BIT CHMOS MICROPROCESSOR\n7)\t82C55A\n\tCHMOS PROGRAMMABLE PERIPHERAL INTERFACE\n8)\t82C54\n\tCHMOS PROGRAMMABLE INTERVAL TIMER\n9)\t82C08\n\tCHMOS DYNAMIC RAM CONTROLLER\n\nAll these are chips with complete manual in a box. I don't know whether they\nstill work or not, and I don't really know what they are. \n\nSo this is mainly for those who knows what this is and have use of it \n(probably EE stuff since this used to belong to a EE student)\n\nAnyone interested, please make me an offer.","label":6,"label_text":"misc.forsale"}
{"text":"\nFine, but one of the points of this entire discussion is that \"we\"\n(conservative, reformed christians - this could start an argument...\nBut isn't this idea that homosexuality is ok fairly \"new\" [this\ncentury] ? Is there any support for this being a viable viewpoint\nbefore this century? I don't know.) don't believe that homosexuality\nis \"acceptable to Him\". So your scripture quotation doesn't work for\n\"us\".","label":15,"label_text":"soc.religion.christian"}