Player       Team   GP  G   A  Pts +/- PIM

    M.Lemieux    PIT     3   4   2   6   2   0
    Francis      PIT     3   1   5   6   5   4
    Oates        BOS     3   0   6   6   1   2
    Yzerman      DET     2   3   2   5   3   0
    Coffey       DET     2   0   5   5   1   0
    D.Hunter     WAS     3   5   0   5  -4  10
    Mogilny      BUF     3   4   1   5   3   4
    Thomas       NYI     3   2   3   5   6   0
    Lapointe     QUE     3   1   4   5   2   2
    Johansson    WAS     3   0   5   5  -1   4
    Carson       LA      2   4   0   4   0   2
    Brown        STL     2   1   3   4   1   2
    Fleury       CAL     2   1   3   4   0  19
    G.Courtnall  VAN     2   1   3   4   3   2
    Flatley      NYI     2   0   4   4   3   2
    MacInnis     CAL     2   0   4   4  -1   4
    Ferraro      NYI     3   3   1   4   2   2
    McEachern    PIT     3   3   1   4   4   8
    Neely        BOS     3   3   1   4   1   4
    Turgeon      NYI     3   3   1   4   5   0
    Bellows      MON     3   2   2   4   0   0
    Jagr         PIT     3   2   2   4   3   0
    Khmylev      BUF     3   2   2   4   3   0
    Khristich    WAS     3   2   2   4   0   2
    Hawerchuk    BUF     3   1   3   4   0   2
    Hogue        NYI     3   1   3   4   3   2
    Juneau       BOS     3   1   3   4   0   6
    K.Stevens    PIT     3   1   3   4   1   6
    L.Murphy     PIT     3   1   3   4   2   0
    LaFontaine   BUF     3   1   3   4   2   0
    Ramsey       PIT     3   0   4   4   3   4
    Smehlik      BUF     3   0   4   4   4   2
    Noonan       CHI     2   3   0   3   0   0
    Gilmour      TOR     2   2   1   3  -1  12
    Hull         STL     2   2   1   3   0   0
    Otto         CAL     2   2   1   3   2   2
    Reichel      CAL     2   2   1   3   0   0
    Bure         VAN     2   1   2   3   2   0
    Drake        DET     2   1   2   3   2   0
    Linden       VAN     2   1   2   3   4   2
    Nieuwendyk   CAL     2   1   2   3  -1   2
    Roberts      CAL     2   0   3   3  -2   4
    Young        QUE     3   3   0   3   3   0
    B.Sweeney    BUF     3   2   1   3   2   4
    S.Stevens    NJ      3   2   1   3  -2   4
    Tocchet      PIT     3   2   1   3   0   2
    Carpenter    WAS     3   1   2   3   0   6
    J.Mullen     PIT     3   1   2   3   2   2
    Ronning      VAN     2   2   0   2   4   0
    Suter        CAL     2   2   0   2   0   4
    Yawney       CAL     2   2   0   2   3   4
    Adams        VAN     2   1   1   2   2   0
    Chiasson     DET     2   1   1   2  -1   4
    Craven       VAN     2   1   1   2   2   2
    Cullen       TOR     2   1   1   2  -1   0
    Dahlquist    CAL     2   1   1   2   2   4
    King         WIN     2   1   1   2   2   2
    Racine       DET     2   1   1   2   6  14
    Rychel       LA      2   1   1   2   1  19
    Shanahan     STL     2   1   1   2   0   4
    Sheppard     DET     2   1   1   2   2   0
    Sydor        LA      2   1   1   2   0   4
    Barnes       WIN     2   0   2   2   1   2
    Emerson      STL     2   0   2   2   0   0
    Gill         TOR     2   0   2   2  -2   0
    Granato      LA      2   0   2   2   1   4
    Gretzky      LA      2   0   2   2  -3   0
    Housley      WIN     2   0   2   2  -2   0
    Janney       STL     2   0   2   2   0   0
    King         NYI     2   0   2   2   4   6
    Kozlov       DET     2   0   2   2   1   2
    Sandstrom    LA      2   0   2   2  -4   4
    Shuchuk      LA      2   0   2   2  -1   2
    Vaske        NYI     2   0   2   2   1   0
    Damphousse   MON     3   1   1   2   0   0
    Elynuik      WAS     3   1   1   2  -1   0
    Guerin       NJ      3   1   1   2   0   4
    Hannan       BUF     3   1   1   2   2   8
    Holik        NJ      3   1   1   2   1   4
    Muller       MON     3   1   1   2   0   0
    Sakic        QUE     3   1   1   2   0   0
    Semak        NJ      3   1   1   2  -2   0
    Sundin       QUE     3   1   1   2   1   2
    Taglianetti  PIT     3   1   1   2   3   6
    Tipett       PIT     3   1   1   2  -1   6
    Barasso      PIT     3   0   2   2   0   2
    Bondra       WAS     3   0   2   2   1   0
    Carney       BUF     3   0   2   2   3   4
    Cavallini    WAS     3   0   2   2   0   2
    Desjardins   MON     3   0   2   2   0   0
    Duchesne     QUE     3   0   2   2   1   2
    Niedermayer  NJ      3   0   2   2  -1   2
    Ricci        QUE     3   0   2   2   3   2
    Ridley       WAS     3   0   2   2  -1   0
    U.Samuelsson PIT     3   0   2   2   4   6
    Blake        LA      1   0   1   1   2   0
    Borschevsky  TOR     1   0   1   1   0   0
    Zelepukin    NJ      1   0   1   1  -2   0
    B.Mullen     NYI     2   1   0   1  -2   0
    Burr         DET     2   1   0   1  -1   2
    Domi         WIN     2   1   0   1   2   4
    Fedorov      DET     2   1   0   1   2   2
    Felsner      STL     2   1   0   1   1   0
    Howe         DET     2   1   0   1   4   2
    Huddy        LA      2   1   0   1   1   0
    Kurri        LA      2   1   0   1  -2   2
    Lefebvre     TOR     2   1   0   1   0  12
    Lidstrom     DET     2   1   0   1  -1   0
    Lowry        STL     2   1   0   1   1   2
    McSorley     LA      2   1   0   1  -3  12
    Millen       LA      2   1   0   1   2   4
    Mironov      TOR     2   1   0   1  -1   2
    Numminen     WIN     2   1   0   1  -2   0
    Paslawski    CAL     2   1   0   1  -1   0
    Steen        WIN     2   1   0   1  -4   0
    Ysebaert     DET     2   1   0   1   0   0
    Anderson     TOR     2   0   1   1  -2   2
    Berube       CAL     2   0   1   1   1  15
    Chelios      CHI     2   0   1   1  -1   2
    Ciccarelli   DET     2   0   1   1   1  14
    Clark        TOR     2   0   1   1   0   6
    Dahl         CAL     2   0   1   1   2   6
    Dipietro     MON     2   0   1   1   0   0
    Donnelly     LA      2   0   1   1   1   2
    Ellett       TOR     2   0   1   1  -3   0
    Gallant      DET     2   0   1   1   1   4
    K.Brown      CHI     2   0   1   1   1   0
    Kennedy      DET     2   0   1   1   1   0
    Larmer       CHI     2   0   1   1   0   0
    Matteau      CHI     2   0   1   1  -1   2
    McLean       VAN     2   0   1   1   0   0
    McRae        STL     2   0   1   1   1   2
    Murzyn       VAN     2   0   1   1   2   0
    Musil        CAL     2   0   1   1   0   5
    Pearson      TOR     2   0   1   1  -1  21
    Primeau      DET     2   0   1   1   1  20
    Probert      DET     2   0   1   1   0   6
    Ranheim      CAL     2   0   1   1   2   0
    Robitaille   LA      2   0   1   1  -4   2
    Roenick      CHI     2   0   1   1  -1   0
    Selanne      WIN     2   0   1   1  -2   0
    Shannon      WIN     2   0   1   1   4   0
    Skrudland    CAL     2   0   1   1   2  10
    Sutter       CHI     2   0   1   1  -1   0
    Taylor       LA      2   0   1   1   1   0
    Zhitnik      LA      2   0   1   1  -2   2
    Barr         NJ      3   1   0   1   0   6
    Bourque      BOS     3   1   0   1  -2   2
    Burridge     WAS     3   1   0   1  -2   0
    Dionne       MON     3   1   0   1   0   0
    Heinze       BOS     3   1   0   1   0   0
    Leschyshyn   QUE     3   1   0   1   1   4
    Presley      BUF     3   1   0   1   0   0
    Rucinsky     QUE     3   1   0   1   1   2
    Smolinski    BOS     3   1   0   1  -1   2
    Wood         BUF     3   1   0   1  -1   4
    Brunet       MON     3   0   1   1   0   0
    Daniels      PIT     3   0   1   1   1   0
    Donato       BOS     3   0   1   1  -5   0
    Driver       NJ      3   0   1   1  -3   4
    Gusarov      QUE     3   0   1   1   2   0
    Houlder      BUF     3   0   1   1   0   0
    K.Samuelsson PIT     3   0   1   1   2   0
    Kamensky     QUE     3   0   1   1   1   4
    Krygier      WAS     3   0   1   1   0   4
    Loney        PIT     3   0   1   1   2   0
    May          WAS     3   0   1   1   1   2
    Miller       WAS     3   0   1   1  -3   0
    Odelein      MON     3   0   1   1   0   0
    Pivonka      WAS     3   0   1   1  -1   0
    Shaw         BOS     3   0   1   1  -2   4
    Straka       PIT     3   0   1   1   0   0
    Belanger     MON     1   0   0   0   0   0
    Chorske      NJ      1   0   0   0   0   0
    Druce        WIN     1   0   0   0   0   0
    Eagles       WIN     1   0   0   0   0   0
    Errey        BUF     1   0   0   0   0   4
    Ewen         MON     1   0   0   0   0   0
    Foligno      TOR     1   0   0   0   0  16
    Goulet       CHI     1   0   0   0   0   0
    Grimson      CHI     1   0   0   0   0   2
    Hughes       BOS     1   0   0   0   0   2
    Kovalenko    QUE     1   0   0   0   0   2
    Leeman       MON     1   0   0   0   0   0
    McLlwain     TOR     1   0   0   0  -2   0
    Osbourne     TOR     1   0   0   0  -1   2
    Richer       NJ      1   0   0   0  -4   0
    Roberge      MON     1   0   0   0   0   0
    Schneider    MON     1   0   0   0   0   0
    Watters      LA      1   0   0   0   1   4
    Weimer       BOS     1   0   0   0  -1   4
    Andreychuk   TOR     2   0   0   0  -2   2
    Ashton       CAL     2   0   0   0  -1   2
    Babych       VAN     2   0   0   0   2   2
    Baron        STL     2   0   0   0   0   6
    Bassen       STL     2   0   0   0   0   4
    Baumgartner  TOR     2   0   0   0   0   0
    Bautin       WIN     2   0   0   0  -2   2
    Belfour      CHI     2   0   0   0   0   0
    Berg         TOR     2   0   0   0  -1   4
    Billington   NJ      2   0   0   0   0   0
    Blue         BOS     2   0   0   0   0   0
    Borsato      WIN     2   0   0   0  -2   0
    Bozon        STL     2   0   0   0   0   0
    Butcher      STL     2   0   0   0   2   0
    Cheveldae    DET     2   0   0   0   0   2
    Conacher     LA      2   0   0   0   2   0
    Corkum       BUF     2   0   0   0   0   0
    Diduck       VAN     2   0   0   0   2   2
    Dirk         VAN     2   0   0   0   0   2
    Erickson     WIN     2   0   0   0  -1   0
    Essensa      WIN     2   0   0   0   0   2
    Gilbert      CHI     2   0   0   0   0   0
    Graham       CHI     2   0   0   0   0   0
    Hardy        LA      2   0   0   0  -1  10
    Hedican      STL     2   0   0   0   0   0
    Hrudey       LA      2   0   0   0   0   0
    J.Lemieux    CHI     2   0   0   0   0   0
    Johansson    CAL     2   0   0   0  -1   0
    Joseph       STL     2   0   0   0   0   0
    Kasatonov    NJ      2   0   0   0  -2   0
    Kennedy      WIN     2   0   0   0   0   0
    Konstantinov DET     2   0   0   0   1   4
    Krushelnyski TOR     2   0   0   0  -2   0
    Lidster      VAN     2   0   0   0   0   0
    Lumme        VAN     2   0   0   0   2   4
    Macoun       TOR     2   0   0   0  -1   6
    Marchment    CHI     2   0   0   0   1   6
    Miller       STL     2   0   0   0   0   0
    Momesso      VAN     2   0   0   0  -1   2
    Moog         BOS     2   0   0   0   0   0
    Muni         CHI     2   0   0   0  -1   0
    Murphy       CHI     2   0   0   0  -1   4
    Murray       CHI     2   0   0   0   0   0
    Nedved       VAN     2   0   0   0  -2   2
    Olausson     WIN     2   0   0   0  -1   2
    Pearson      QUE     2   0   0   0   0   0
    Potvin       TOR     2   0   0   0   0   6
    Quintal      STL     2   0   0   0  -1   0
    Ramage       MON     2   0   0   0   0   0
    Ri.Sutter    STL     2   0   0   0   0   0
    Rouse        TOR     2   0   0   0  -2   0
    Russell      CHI     2   0   0   0   0   0
    Ruuttu       CHI     2   0   0   0   1   0
    S.Richer     BOS     2   0   0   0  -1   0
    S.Smith      CHI     2   0   0   0  -2   4
    Sandlak      VAN     2   0   0   0  -2   0
    Semenov      VAN     2   0   0   0   0   0
    Stern        CAL     2   0   0   0  -1  26
    T.Hunter     VAN     2   0   0   0   0   2
    T.Sweeney    BOS     2   0   0   0   0   0
    Terreri      NJ      2   0   0   0   0   0
    Tkachuk      WIN     2   0   0   0  -3  10
    Ulanov       WIN     2   0   0   0  -1   4
    Valk         VAN     2   0   0   0   0   2
    Vernon       CAL     2   0   0   0   0   2
    Wilson       STL     2   0   0   0   0   4
    Zezel        TOR     2   0   0   0  -2   2
    Zhamnov      WIN     2   0   0   0  -1   0
    Zombo        STL     2   0   0   0  -1   4
    Albelin      NJ      3   0   0   0  -1   0
    Anderson     WAS     3   0   0   0  -1   0
    Audette      BUF     3   0   0   0  -1   4
    Bodger       BUF     3   0   0   0   3   0
    Brisebois    MON     3   0   0   0   0   0
    C.Lemieux    NJ      3   0   0   0  -4  17
    Carbonneau   MON     3   0   0   0   0   0
    Cavallini    QUE     3   0   0   0   0   0
    Cote         WAS     3   0   0   0  -3   0
    D.Sweeney    BOS     3   0   0   0  -2   4
    Daigneault   MON     3   0   0   0   0   0
    Dalgarno     NYI     3   0   0   0  -3   0
    Daneyko      NJ      3   0   0   0  -1   2
    Douris       BOS     3   0   0   0  -3   0
    Fetisov      NJ      3   0   0   0  -5   0
    Finn         QUE     3   0   0   0  -1   0
    Fitzgerald   NYI     3   0   0   0   0   0
    Foote        QUE     3   0   0   0   1   0
    Fuhr         BUF     3   0   0   0   0   2
    G.Roberts    BOS     3   0   0   0  -1   4
    Haller       MON     3   0   0   0   0   0
    Hatcher      WAS     3   0   0   0  -1   2
    Healy        NYI     3   0   0   0   0   0
    Hextall      QUE     3   0   0   0   0   0
    Hough        QUE     3   0   0   0   0   0
    Iafrate      WAS     3   0   0   0  -2   0
    Jennings     PIT     3   0   0   0   0   4
    Jones        WAS     3   0   0   0  -2   5
    Kasparaitis  NYI     3   0   0   0   0   4
    Keane        MON     3   0   0   0   0   0
    Kimble       BOS     3   0   0   0   0   0
    Krupp        NYI     3   0   0   0   2   2
    Kvartalnov   BOS     3   0   0   0   0   2
    LeClair      MON     3   0   0   0   0   0
    Leach        BOS     3   0   0   0   0   0
    Lebeau       MON     3   0   0   0   0   0
    Ledyard      BUF     3   0   0   0  -3   4
    Loiselle     NYI     3   0   0   0  -1   2
    MacLean      NJ      3   0   0   0  -4   4
    Malakov      NYI     3   0   0   0   1   2
    May          BUF     3   0   0   0   0   4
    McKay        NJ      3   0   0   0   0  16
    Nicholls     NJ      3   0   0   0  -4   4
    Nolan        QUE     3   0   0   0   1   2
    Norton       NYI     3   0   0   0   3   0
    Patterson    BUF     3   0   0   0  -1   2
    Pilon        NYI     3   0   0   0   1  22
    Poulin       BOS     3   0   0   0  -4   0
    Roy          MON     3   0   0   0   0   0
    Savard       MON     3   0   0   0   0   0
    Simon        QUE     3   0   0   0  -1   2
    Stapleton    PIT     3   0   0   0   1   0
    Stastny      NJ      3   0   0   0  -1   2
    Sutton       BUF     3   0   0   0   2   0
    T.Green      NYI     3   0   0   0  -3   0
    Tabaracci    WAS     3   0   0   0   0   4
    Vukota       NYI     3   0   0   0  -1   2
    Wesley       BOS     3   0   0   0   1   0
    Wolanin      QUE     3   0   0   0   1   4
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Bristol Technology announces the availability of
its HyperHelp(tm) and Xprinter(tm) demo for downloading.

This demo showcases the two products in the form of a
diagram editor called DE.

Download the demo and see some of these exciting features for yourself:

	 o Complete on-line context sensitive help system.

	 o Printing support for PCL5 and PostScript.

	 o Rotated Text support!

	 o Source code for the demo is provided.

The demo is available via anonymous ftp from ftp.uu.net (137.39.1.9).

There are two versions of the demo located in the vendor/Bristol directory:
Sun     - sun4.demo.tar.Z (SunOS 4.x)
HP      - hp700.tar.Z     (HP-UX 8 & 9)

If you have any questions about the demo, send an
e-mail to: support@bristol.com.

If you want another version of the demo (rs6000,etc...)
please send an e-mail to: info@bristol.com.

Remember to use binary mode!

What are HyperHelp and Xprinter?  Read on......
---------------------------------------------------------
Bristol Technology is proud to announce version 3.0 of
its popular HyperHelp product and version 2.0 of Xprinter.

			    HyperHelp 3.0
			    -------------
HyperHelp is the de-facto standard for on-line context
sensitive help in the Unix marketplace.  Through a one
line function call, application developers can access the
full features of HyperHelp and cut down drastically on
their development time.  HyperHelp can use the same RTF,
project, and bitmap files as the MS Windows Help facility.
This allows a documentation department to maintain a single
set of help documents portable between MS Windows, Motif and
Open Look.  HyperHelp can also be authored in FrameMaker.
And with HyperHelp 3.0 Bristol introduces its SGML compiler!

New features in HyperHelp 3.0 include secondary windows,a character
based viewer, segmented bitmaps, SGML support, and an improved History
window.

			     Xprinter 2.0
			     ------------
Xprinter 2.0 allows developers to add sophisticated
printer support to their existing/new X based applications
very easily.  Xprinter uses the Xlib API for both the
display and printer.  This lets you use the exact same code
for drawing and printing.  Take a look at the source code for
our demo and see Xprinter in action.

If you are interested in adding PostScript and PCL5 support
to your application, Xprinter is the tool for you!  Earlier
this year Bristola dn USL signed an agreement that
resulted in Xprinter becoming the standard printing technology
for UNIX SVR4.2.

Feel free to run the demo and let us know what you think about
HyperHelp and Xprinter.

If you have any questions or comments, send them to us at:
info@bristol.com or call us at (203) 438-6969.

				Happy demoing,


How can I capture ButtonPress/ButtonRelease events in multiple clients?
I want to know if the user is still at the display before locking the screen.
I can get  KeyPress/KeyRelease and Pointer motion events, but if the user
is pressing the mouse button in the same location (the mouse doesn't move)
I can't capture the events.

The O'Reilly Xlib Programming Manual (vol. 1) says on page 252;
   "Only one client can select button events on any one window at one time,
    due to the grab that automatically takes place."

Any help would be appreciated.


do not, and i repeat, do not, cross post the following subjects to
soc.culture.iranian:

Re: Jews Supports Serbs
Re: Arab Leaders and Bosnia
Re: HizbAllah in Bosnia
Re: The Stage is Being Set

that's all we need here; more bigotry and hate! believe me,
we have already reached our quota for the year. try again
next year.


Yup, it's not all that difficult to do.

The Panasonic cartridges aren't bad, but they aren't spectacular.

Don't mount it on the side.  Call up Crown, the company that has the
patent on the PZM, and ask them for information on construction and
use of the things.  You may have to determine the correct spacing
emperically with a noise source and a spectrum analyzer because the
design of the Panasonic cartridges uses a tuned cavity in front of
the electret element to increase the high frequency response, and you
are going to be altering the resistance through the cavity entrance.

Crown has a nice book on the subject, though it's unfortunately rather
short on mathematics.  There's a JAES article from many years back, too.


There is a correction to the note I posted for today's update:

This is how it read:
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Of course, last Saturday was April 17th. People who requested those scores
should receive them by Friday the 23rd. Thanks.

Joe Hernandez
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Two meg. sim that came from a PB100 for sale.  I am asking $60 (postage
included).  If you are interested please e-mail me via internet.  If you do
not
have internet availability you may contact me at 301/468-0241.


I bought mine at the MOW storefront.
Its not plastic, its woven material.

but I think you miss the point.
its not about the five bucks in your pocket, its about supporting the
march and helping to pay for all the printed materail and scehdulkes and
organisation and...

all leading up to the literal *birth* of Queer visibility in this country.

up to this point all our news coverage has been driven by events thatb
happen to us.
this event is happening by our direct action.
of course the last MOW was the same thing but they ignored us.
I guess that was just labor pains.
perhaps they will ignore us again, in which case we will come in
even largeer numbers next time.

Lst night in DC there were so many queers out and about you could hardly get
in any place.
I suspect thatb over the next two days that will become exponentially
larger.

To my mind this is a physical bsuting down of the collective closet of
queer invisibility.

the five bucks is insignificant.

LUX ./. owen


Hi,

I've tried to get rid off XDM's ugly Login window by giving it a 'cool'
backgroundPixmap ressource. As Login is derived from Core, this should be
possible. Anyway, setting xlogin*backgroundPixmap:/a/b/c.xpm did not
produce any message of the form 'cannot convert String to Pixmap' and
explicitely registering such converter lead to nothing, too.

Any way to do it ?


Hi,
	I'm an avid dieter and the new miracle drug seems to involve thermo-
genics. The drug is claimed to stimulate the brown fat to burn food
creating eat as opposed to the fat being stored. There are all sorts of
warnings about fevers, elevated blood pressure and heart rate, ect..
	The silver lining is that apparently some weight loss does not
require a change in diet. Is this possible? Are the pills dangerous or just
hoaxes?


So why not condemn the Mufti for his Nazi leanings, and condemn all his
supporters, while also condemning the similarly genocidal killing of
innocents, Muslim or not, in Bosnoia-Herzegovina? Hatred and bigotry
remain just that, no matter who practices them.


Elias Davidsson writes...

ED> dear pete,
ED>
ED> for one who is so zionist as you, you should at least know your
ED> hebrew, young man.
ED>
ED> The last sentence in your posting should read:
ED>
ED> Medina achat leshnai amim (not Echad medionnot leshtai amim).
ED>
ED> I don't want to address your comments. They speak for themselves.
ED>
ED> best regards from a Palestinian of Jewish origin who talks, reads and writes
ED> Hebrew and does not hate Jews nor anybody else.
ED>
ED> Elias

    The above claim that you do not hate anybody may not be quite
    true.  The falsity of this statement is easily visible in the
    intellectual corruption that dominates everything you post in
    this group.  Your complete lack of objectivity toward Israel,
    and Jewish identity in general, reveal biases that indicate a
    great steaming heap of hatred!

    You certainly have shown a genuine hatred for honesty and for
    objectivity. You repeatedly post items or quotes removed from
    their original context so that they can be used to further an
    agenda of rabid opposition to the very existence of Israel.

    You have used this dishonest technique to paint a false image
    of several Israeli leaders.  I can't say if you actually HATE
    these leaders, but the lies and misrepresentations of them do
    suggest that you have a visceral prejudice against them.

    So, while you claim that you do not hate anybody, there is an
    ample body of evidence to suggest that this claim of yours is
    false.  It is obvious that you hate Israel, and it is evident
    that you hate the Jewish people.

    And, if you are Jewish, you are a self-hating Jew.  There can
    be no doubt of this.  Although you will call upon your Jewish
    background in an effort to claim the high moral ground, there
    is no doubt that you would like to see the Jewish people fade
    away completely, as a people.  Your advocacy of intermarriage
    for the purpose of dissolving the Jewish people is proof that
    you hate the Jewish people.

    And by your effort to superimpose the meaninglessness of your
    own Jewishness on all Jews, you've clearly demonstrated to me
    that you hate yourself.

                      *       *       *       *

    "Who is a Jew?  A person whose integrity decays when unmoved
    by the knowledge of wrong done to other people."


I am planning to convert my Motif 1.2 app from pixel to font units
which would all be set in the app's resource file instead of hard coded
in the program.

However, the word here is from people who tried this already that for
some unknown reason XmForm offsets placed in the resource file are still
interpreted in pixel units forcing people to code those offset font units into the program.

Can somebody confirm this?


Astronomy & Space magazine's UK telephone newsline carries the times to
see the Russian Space Station Mir which will be visible every EVENING (some
time between 9 o'clock and midnight) from April 27 to May 7. It's about as
bright as Jupiter at its best. There are two cosmonuats on board.

For the time to watch, tel. 0891-88-19-50 (48p/min peak 36p/min all other
times, but prediction is at start of the weekly message so it only costs a
few pence).

E-mail reports of sightings would be appreciated: give lat/long and UT (a
few seconds accuracy if possible) when it passes ABOVE or BELOW any bright
star (say brighter than mag. 3), planet or Moon.

With Moon in evening sky also, note that from somewhere in U.K. Mir will
pass in front of the Moon each night! Please alert local clubs to the
telephone newsline, and general public as Mir can cause quite a stir!

-Tony Ryan, "Astronomy & Space", new International magazine, available from:
              Astronomy Ireland, P.O.Box 2888, Dublin 1, Ireland.
6 issues (one year sub.): UK 10.00 pounds, US$20 surface (add US$8 airmail).
ACCESS/VISA/MASTERCARD accepted (give number, expiration date, name&address).

  (WORLD'S LARGEST ASTRO. SOC. per capita - unless you know better? 0.033%)
Tel: 0891-88-1950 (UK/N.Ireland) 1550-111-442 (Eire). Cost up to 48p per min


I downloaded the file xv221exe.zip from the site someone posted here.
It contained the files:
  CJPEG.EXE
  DJPEG.EXE
  XV.EXE

When I tried to run it, it just said
"Couldn't run go32.exe"
and halts.

What's the matter with this?
Are there some files missing in the .zip?
What is go32.exe?

any help appreciated.

bye,

Wolfram

--


Im trying to find a site that has UPDATED(daily) stats more the
	National league. I'll take both leagues but I'm really interested in the
	National league.


From article <1r1i7mINN4n4@cronkite.cisco.com>, by kmac@cisco.com (Karl Elvis MacRae):

I agree that the Toyota is the best looking I just didn't fit plus it is the
highest cost of all the ones you mentioned. I have good friends who have all
three of the trucks you talked about, the ones with kids all went to the
ford because of the room required to carry a couple of kids and all the junk
you need. The single ones went for the Toyota and the Nissan. Every one has
been happy with what they bought. Although no one is into serious four wheel
off road driving.


I recently read in a book that the TIFF version 6.0 specification was due
to be released in the spring of 1992.  I am interested in finding out about
the new features of the TIFF spec (and if it is out).  Specifically, I need
to know if TIFF 6.0 supports VQ decompression and/or image
tiling.


First of all I'm still baffled what you possibly could have
found racist in my argument for freedom of speach. I did not
mention names, nationalities, countries let alone races.
	You are right in that Virginia.edu does not have a
thought police like Israel.nysernet.org seems to. I didn't know
that you guys are getting a privelege by the Israelis by
getting "the means to speak publicly". Virginia.edu lets EVERY
student regardless of their opinion to speak their mind.
	Virginia.edu is true to its founding father, Thomas
Jefferson the author of the bill of rights, in allowing freedom
of speach. Sorry you guys in israel have a hard time with the
concept.


    ya know that kind of funny cause I've seen Kariya on Campus
with a Sharks hat on.......

             Pat Ellis

P.S.  GO BRUINS    GO UMAINE BLACK BEARS    42-1-2       NUMBER 1......

                   HOCKEY EAST REGULARS SEASON CHAMPIONS.....
                   HOCKEY EAST TOURNAMENT CHAMPIONS>......
                   PAUL KARIYA, HOBEY BAKER AWARD WINNER.......
         NCAA DIV. 1 HOCKEY TOURNAMENT CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


;    I am a serious motorcycle enthusiast without a motorcycle, and to
;put it bluntly, it sucks.  I really would like some advice on what would
;be a good starter bike for me.  I do know one thing however, I need to
;make my first bike a good one, because buying a second any time soon is
;out of the question.  I am specifically interested in racing bikes, (CBR
;600 F2, GSX-R 750).  I know that this may sound kind of crazy
;considering that I've never had a bike before, but I am responsible, a
;fast learner, and in love.

Responsible and in love?  I believe that's a contradiction
in terms.

Unless you're really brave (read: "reckless") a 500cc sport
bike will go way faster than you dare for at least your first
year of riding.  Getting more than that really is overkill,
as you'll never even want to use it.  The following bikes
can be bought (and repaired!) cheaply, are easy for a novice
to manage, and are plenty high performance:
    Kawasaki EX-500
    Honda VF-500 "Interceptor"
    Suzuki GS-550E

The 0-100mph time of the EX-500 at full throttle is "way
sooner than you're ready for it".  :-)  With something
as small as a 250, you'd probably be wishing for more
power pretty quickly (unless it's a TZR or RGV :).

Now, I'm not saying that you're 100% certain to kill
yourself immediately with a 600f2 or a GSXR-750.  Plenty
of people have started riding on those bikes and done
just fine.  What I am saying is that it's a waste of
money, and a waste of perfectly good plastic when you
drop the thing learning how to balance while stopping.
You'll never get the throttle more than half open
anyway, so why spend the extra 2000 bucks?


Another one rescued from the bit bucket...

Over the years the furor over this book has been discussed on a.a. and
elsewhere on the net.  Generally, the discussion comes down to the
contention on the one hand that TSV contains such blood libel against
Islam as to merit, if not death, than at least banning and probably
some sort of punishment; and on the other that Rushdie, particularly
as a non-muslim in a Western country, had every right to write and
publish whatever he chose, regardless of whether some muslims find it
offensive, without fear of persecution or death.

I am naturally inclined to the latter position, but find myself in an
interesting position, because I think this is a fine book, only
incidentally concerned with Islam, and moreover I'm damned if I can
find anything malevolently offensive in it.

Over the years, when I have made this point, various primarily muslim
posters have responded, saying that yes indeed they have read the book
and had called it such things as "filth and lies", "I would rank
Rushdie's book with Hitler's Mein Kempf or worse", and so on.
Unfortunately, these comments are usually generalities, and attempts
to follow up by requesting explanations for what specifically is so
offensive have met either with stony silence, more generalizations, or
inaccurate or out-of-context references to the book [which lead me to
believe that few of them have actually read it].  Corrections and
attempts to discuss the text in context have been ignored.

Anyway, since I seem to be the only one following this particular line
of discussion, I wonder how many of the rest of the readership have
read this book?  What are your thoughts on it?
--
Jim Perry   perry@dsinc.com   Decision Support, Inc., Matthews NC
These are my opinions.  For a nominal fee, they can be yours.


A person with a Schatzki's ring (a membrane partially blocking the
espphagus) has worsening dysphagia (difficulty swallowing) and the
doctor proposes dilation by balloow or bougie (using an inflatable
balloon to rupture the ring or a rubber hose to push through it.

Question: is balloon dilation safe, common, and indicated?  It sounds
pretty invasive.

Yes, this is a common and safe procedure.  The majority of Schatzki's
rings described by x-ray, however, wnd up being due to inflammation
instead of the congenital Schatzki's ring.  Occassionally a cancer
masquerades as a ring.  You should have the endoscopy to see if it
is due to the heartburn, and if so, you will need treatment for the
heartburn ong term.  The balloon dilation is an alternative to cutting
open your chest and cutting out a section of the esophagus, so dilation
is not at all invasive, considering the alternative.

3 to 4 years, and once was symptomatic from them, with some
lightheadedness.
He is young, (30-ish), thin and in good

I' not an expert on heart problems, but PVC's are common and have been
overtreated in the past.  My personal experience, and I have the same
history an build you do (related to the heart, that is), is that my PVC's
come and go, with some months causing anxiety.  Taking on more fluids
seems to help, and they seem worse in the summer.  Remember that a slow
heart rate will allow more PVC's to be apparent, so perhaps it is an
indication of a healthy cardiac system (but ask an expert about that
last point, especially)

Good luck, hope we don't die of arrhythmias.  (God, what a happy thought)


Hello, Brycen ?!
I'm a Norwegian journalist student - and also a Christian. Thanks for your
testimony! But I want to ask you one question: What do you think of Heavy
Metal music after you became a Christian? You know there are Christian bands
like Barren Cross, Whitecross, Bloodgood and Stryper, that play that kind of
music. I like some of it, I feel like it sometimes. Of course I listen to
the lyrics too. I don't listen to any Christian band, but it's better than
listening to secular music anyway.
Hope you're still going strong - with Christ!!


	Absolutely. Early XS1100's were VERY good at this.

	Don't try it on your Virago unless you already are purty good at
it or like the smell of exploded clutch.

--
Go fast. Take chances.


I'm working at a workstation which is usually attached to a Novell
network (using shell version 3.22, I think). The workstation, a 386, was set
up to run Windows 3.0 with the network about a year ago. Needless to say,
I'd like to upgrade it to Windows 3.1, and have it work with the network.

	Basically, the Windows files'd be on the local hard drive, but
several DOS applications, like Word Perfect, will be on the network. I'd
mainly want Windows to access the network drives, the network printers, and
perhaps handle some network functions as well. If I could multitask the DOS
apps whose executables are on the network, that'd be great, but I could live
without it.

	Eventually, I'd like to get a few other 486s in the office working
with the network and Windows 3.1 as well. (However, most of the terminals
are 286s, which leaves the network pretty much DOS-bound, and I guess that
leaves out Windows for Workgroups.) And in the future, maybe there'd be
Norton desktop, but that's gettingahead of myself.

	As you can guess, I've never done anything like this before. I've
read through the networks material that came with Windows, but still, I'd
like to know if anyone out there has any experience in such an area.

	Please reply by Email. I don't scan these newsgroups often.

	Thanks for any replies.

Brian "Rev. P-K" Siano                                  revpk@cellar.org


A friend of mine (who's probably reading this right now) just bought a new
Yamaha Virago 750.  After spending 1-2 hours very late one chilly evening
watching him struggle with the bolts (had to remove the right peg, loosen
the brake pedal, &c. &c.) I've pretty much decided never to get this
particular model unless he or someone else wants to change the oil/filter
for me.  Compared to the 5-minute change he was used to for his Honda, this
is just a design flaw/oversight in my eyes.


Please remove me from this mailing list - we finally
got our news feed!

	Ron L.


Well, so are we, and we see it completely different than you. Guess it's a
matter of perspective.


I really don't want to get into a DidSo-DidNot debate with you.  But
this is somewhat at the heart of our disagreement.  I did not say,
nor did I imply, that I could predict the future.  You have inferred
that my comments meant this, and you have based your rebuttal of my
comments on the fact that statistical studies have demonstrated that
there is no reasonable basis for predicting future performance in
regard to clutch hitting.

Sabo		1539	452	.294		259	59	.228
Samuel		1564	383	.245		278	83	.299

That is *your* opinion that Sabo is "clearly a better hitter" than
Samuel.  The above data is for a 4-year period ending last season.
Last season Samuel batted .272 while Sabo hit .244 (not park adjusted).
This season they are both hitting below .200, albeit Sabo with more
at bats.  I will agree that over his career Sabo has been a better
hitter than Samuel, but I will also remind you that Samuel has been
a better hitter in certain situations than Sabo.

I did not predict that Sabo would choke, nor that Samuel would get a
hit.  I expressed my opinion that had I been the Reds manager (or
even a Reds fan) that I would prefer to have Samuel hit in that
situation than Sabo.

Ah.  "properly".  Yes.  I see.

Please help me.  What, exactly, is "everything else" that pointed to Sabo?

I must say, I was not aware of the publication.  Can you email me the
information regarding its availability?

And I guess I must apologize to all of those who have done extensive
study on, say, supply side economics.  I didn't mean to insult you.
But I never did believe you were on the right path.  I'm sorry for
my contrary opinion/position.  I also regret that I don't have the
ability to prove that you are wrong.  But you are.

It is what it says it is!

The "second" is *your* statement, not mine.

Well, actually, I haven't yet.  But I'm not finished looking.
That is, I haven't yet found someone who hit significantly below
his overall batting average in clutch situations for the years
1989 - 91, and then reversed that relationship in 1992.

Nope.  Sorry.  But if you were interested in a reason why I expect
Chris Sabo's ability to hit in the clutch to correlate from one
year to the next, I think I could.  If you were interested in a
reason why I expect Joe Carter's ability to hit in the clutch to
correlate from one year to the next, I think I could.  But you're
not interested in that, because you think that those conclusions
could only be valid if they could be extrapolated over the entire
baseball population.  And they can't be.

The problem here is that I *do* believe you.  I accept your work.
I believe that trying to predict future clutch performance based
on prior clutch history is meaningless.  No better than a coin toss.
I actually *do* accept your work.

As it happens, I also have an *opinion* that in certain situations,
for certain players, a history of superior or inferior ability to
hit in the clutch might suggest a reason what such history could be
valid in projecting future player performance.  For that player.
And Chris Sabo is one such player.

Well, since I defer to your statistical wisdom, I think I must have
an open mind.  Now we have to pose the same question to you.

--	The Beastmaster


I have a bayonet in the factory scabbard from a Swedish Mouser mounted to
the handlebars of my Zuki'.  That 10" blade and my long arms do quite well
thank you.

 ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====----


About six years ago my ears clogged up with wax, probably as a
result of to much headphone use.  Anyway, the clinic that cleaned
them out used the following procedure:

1. Inject olive oil into ears.
2. Prevent leakage of oil with cotton.
3. Come back in an hour.
4. Rinse ears with warm vater, forcefully injected
   into ear (very strange sensation).
5. Done.

They had special tools to do this, and were evidently quite
familiar with the problem: Very large steel syringe.  Special
bowl with cutout for ear to take the grime coming out without
spillage.

Seconded,


Well, I seem to have struck an  interesting discussion off.  Given that I
am not an astrophysicist  or nuclear physicist,  i'll have to boil it
down a bit.

1)  ALl the data on bursts to date,  shows a smooth random distribution.

2)  that means they aren't concentrated in  galactic cores, our or someone
elses.

3) If the distribution is smooth,  we are either seeing some  ENORMOUSLY
large phenomena  scattered at the edge of the universe  said phenomena
being subject to debate almost as vioent as the phenomena
	OR
we are seeing some phenomena  out at like the Oort cloud,  but then it needs
some potent little energy source,  that isn't detectable  by any other
current methods.

4)  we know it's not real close,  like  slightly extra solar,  because
we have no parallax measurements on the bursts.

5)  the bursts seem to bright to be something like black hole quanta or
super string  impacts or something like that.

So everyone is watching the data and arguing like mad in the meanwhile.

what i am wondering,  is this in people's opinion,  A NEW Physics problem.

Einstein got well known for solvingthe photoelectric effect.

Copernicus,  started looking at  irregularities in planetary motion.

Is this a big enough problem, to create a new area of physics?
just a little speculative thinking folks.


Diesels fall into the same emissions mythology as alcohol fuels.  The main reason
they are considered "cleaner" is because they are better at the emissions we
actually measure and regulate.  But they also contribute additional emissions
which have long been determined to be as harmful, but no suitable control or
limits have been defined.

Current evidence is pointing to most visible smog actually being diesel emissions
and suspended particles and less of a photo-chemical reaction.  Diesel particulates
are now becoming a major concern in decreased lung capacity.  And alcohols emit
signifcantly more aldehydes (a known carcinigen) than gasoline.  The evidence
is mounting that while we have been beating the gasoline engine to death, we may
have been ignoring the effects of the alternatives.

And anyone who thinks diesels are so great, should go and spend a few hours in
rush hour traffic in some cities in Europe.  There the stench of the diesels is
awful and it can even burn the eyes.

Diesels being clean is only relative to our current standards.


For discussion of Nikolai Tesla (who else??)


Sorry, I don't have the demo, but I do have the program and have been
using it for the past few weeks.  Since I now have Dos 6 as well, I
don't use many of the features of PCT4Win.  But I do so use:
	- the PCT Desktop with drag and drop printing, folders in
          folders, and multiple desktops
	- the file manager which is far superior to win 3.1's fm.


I have the following software for sale, prices are neogotiable,

MS-Window 3.1, by Gateway, with manuals, $20
MS-Work	with manuals, $30
PC-TOOLS 7.1 with all manuals, $40
MS-DOS 6.0!	$20

All softwares are almost new


Could someone point me toward a source (FTP/BBS/whatever) for development
tools for the 8051 microprocessor.  I specifically am looking for a Macintosh
cross-assembler/disassembler.  Also, is there a mailing-list dedicated to
discussing the 8051?  Thanks.


Minor correction: Hartley came in the West trade to Phily.  Deshaies signed
as a free agent ($1.7M over 2 years).  He pitched for San Diego last year.
--
Regards,


There was a discussion about how real fans were ones who respect their teams
no matter ow bad they are. That's bullshit. Anyone who would follow the
Pens or the Pirates in parts of the early eighties on a devoted basis are
losers. It's OK to follow and be concerned about your home team. But
to  give them respect even when it is clear the management and the players suck
should not be required of a true fan.A  true fan would follow the team in
troubled times to the extent that they could discuss how to improve the team.

When I visit PIttsburgh, I'll refuse to go to a Pirates game since I think
the management has given PIttsburgh a team which could have been much better
even if they couldn't sign Barry Bonds. Lert's say the Pens start doing to
their own team what the Oilers have done this year and what the Whalers have
done in recent years, I would be hard pressed to show much enthusiasm for the
team. I'll still follow it and bitch about it. But I won't waste my
money on mediocre teams.


Drop three billiard balls on a ramp, and they all roll in the same
direction.  Pour some blood into the sea, and sharks will converge
from miles around.  Throw a pebble at one starling, and all 200 will
depart.

Natural processes can mimic the outward results of conspiracy when no
actual conspiracy is required.

Put a government functionary in an embarrassing situation, and he
quickly covers his ass.

This, too, is completely natural.

It looks that way to me, too.  But you have to understand that it's NOT
the first time they have instigated raids like these.  The most recent
one ALSO ended up in a long standoff, but it wasn't quite as public
as this one, and they didn't kill quite as many people.  Maybe this
screwup will make them think long and hard about raiding any more
residences in this manner.  But probably not.

I assume you're talking about Philadelphia.

If you're a fan of conspiracies, the time to make that batch of
popcorn is AFTER the screwup, when it's time for the coverup.
--


Hi! Everyone,

I don't clearly understand 'occlusion' in computer graphics.
Would you please give me an explanation?

BTW, what's the difference between 'occluded surface' and opaque surface?

Thanks in advance.


Following up to my own article...  I found that several people say that
LAN Server clients can talk to WFW.  Is this, then, also true for LAN
Manager?  (Don't LAN Server and LAN Manager share common roots?)

Somewhat less so now...  :)


[stuff chopped]

Um, you gotta understand these "salesdroids" as you call them.  They look at
it this way: burn lotsa tire; make lotsa money.  I'm sure s/ he knew how
stupid the "HG" was.  Would you seriously stop them from burning off
a seasons worth of tire??  The SQUIDS probably would buy Metzelers or some
good low profile tire anyhow...

Yep.  Them droids sure a sneaky bastards! ;)

Regards, Ted.


    I too noticed that in all this screaming and shouting, not one
person brought up the question of atrocities being commited on non-muslims
by the Sudanese Government. Could it be that they are Africans and so who
cares? I suggest that everyone cut the hypocrisy and bleating about Bosnia
and go on to discuss something even more meaningless.

    The report below shows that the Sudanese are acting in the finest
traditions of Islamic law as expounded by some die-hard people on the
net (who shall remain nameless).

Sudan
-----

Government troops 'steal women, children'

WASHINGTON - Government troops in Sudan are involved in massacres,
kidnapping and the transporting of forced labor into Libya, according
to a State Department document declassified Wednesday.

    The report compiled by the U.S. embassy in Khartoum said government
forces, particularly Arab militias organized as the Popular Defense
Forces, "routinely steal women and children" in southern Sudan.


Hi

I have heard about a linear mode for the ET4000, in which the 1Mb video
memory in linearly accesibly instead of the usual 64k pages. Does anyone
know more about this ? How can I enable it and to what address is the
video memory mapped to ?


Does anyone know if the fabled /new/ version of PBM+ will be out soon.  As
far as I know the /current/ version is 10dec91.
Jeff P. are you out there ? ?? ?


I think somebody posted some info about a biobliography program one or
two months ago. I don't rember the detail. What I'd like to have is one
software to organize the literature I'm refereing for scientific
publications. The functions I'd like would be
a. able to do data-base managment
b. able to print with special formats for different journals
Any info would be appreciated.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Yi-Ming Wang    Radiation Laboratory, University of Notre Dame
wang.29@nd.edu
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Which would YOU choose, and why?

Like lots of people, I'd really like to increase my data transfer rate from
the hard drive.  Right now I have a 15ms 210Mb IDE drive (Seagate 1239A), and
a standard IDE controller card on my ISA 486-50.

I'm currently thinking about adding another HD, in the 300Mb to 500Mb range.
And I'm thinking hard about buying a SCSI drive (SCSI for the future benefit).
I believe I'm getting something like 890Kb/sec transfer right now (according
to NU).

How would this number compare if I bought the state-of-the-art SCSI card for
my ISA PC, and the state-of-the-art SCSI hard drive (the best system I could
hope for)?

Obviously money factors into this choice as well as any other, but what would
YOU want to use on your ISA system? And how much would it cost?

Along those lines, what kind of transfer rate could I see with my IDE HD's if I
were to buy the top-of-the-line IDE caching controller for my 200Mb, 15ms HD?
And how much would it cost?

Thanks for any comments.


Norman Green claims that he has lost money over the last three years
that he has owned the team.  When he bought the team, it seemed kind of
obvious that he was going to have to deal with a few years in the red,
before the team started making a profit again.  He gave the impression
that he was willing to do so.  He claimed two years ago that the team
needed to average only 8000+ fans per game in order to pull a profit,
but this season the team averaged 12000+ fans, despite increasd ticket
prices.  I think the team's attendence and play was clearly in an upward
trend, which leaves me dumbfounded as to how he could ignore that in
deciding to move.  He was even offered the many concessions he rudely
demanded, such as guaranteed season ticket sales, cheap rent at the
other two arenas in town, etc.

Oh well, I guess the bottom line is $$$.  Green wanted immediate huge
returns in Dallas, and wasn't willing to wait another year or so in MN.
Dallas gave Green a pretty stellar deal to play there (although I feel
Minnesota's was quite reasonable), and he also has some cronies down
there as well.  All this means, is that Minnesota is without an NHL team
for a year or two.  Too bad for the NHL.


ra>   Robert, you keep making references to "orthodox" belief, and saying
ra> things like "it is held that..." (cf. "Kermit" thread).  On what
ra> exact body of theology are you drawing for what you call "orthodox?"

     "Orthodox" is a compound word. It comes from 'orthos' (straight, true,
     right) and from 'doxa' (opinion, doctrine, teaching). I use orthodox to
     refer to 'right teaching.' Right teaching is derived from letting God
     speak to us through the Bible. This can be from reading simple truths
     in the Scriptures and by using the Bible to interpret the Bible.

ra> Who is that "holds that" Luke meant what you said he meant?

     I think that it is apparent from reading the Scriptures that are
     pertinent.

     Luke 23:43 records Christ's promise to the repentant thief who hung on
     an adjacent cross: "Truly I say to you, today you will be with Me in
     paradise." But was it not until later that Christ rose from the dead
     and ascended to heaven? If Christ Himself was not in heaven until
     Sunday, how could the repentant thief have been there with Him? The
     answer lies in the location of "paradise" when Jesus died.

     Apparently paradise was not exalted to heaven until Easter Day.

     Jesus refers to it in the middle of the story of the rich man and
     Lazarus as "Abraham's Bosom," to which the godly beggar Lazarus was
     carried by the angels after his decease (Luke 16:19-31).  Thus
     "Abraham's Bosom" referred to the place where the souls of the redeemed
     waited till the day of Christ's Resurrection.

     It was not yet lifted to heaven but it may well have been a section of
     hades (Hebrew: Sheol), reserved for believers who had died in the faith
     but would not be admitted into the glorious presence of God in heaven
     until the price of redemption had actually been paid on Calvary; or
     even that none would precede the presence of Jesus back to glory with
     the Father.

     Doubtless it was the infernal paradise that the souls of Jesus and the
     repentant thief repaired after they each died on Friday afternoon. But
     on Sunday, after the risen Christ had first appeared to Mary Magdalene
     (John 20:17) and her two companions (Matthew 28:9), presumably He then
     took up with Him to glory all the inhabitants of infernal paradise
     (including Abraham, Lazarus, and the repentant thief). We read in
     Ephesians 4:8 concerning Christ: "Ascending on high, He led captivity
     captive; He gave gifts unto men." Verse 9 continues: "But what does `He
     ascended' mean but that He also descended to the lowest parts of the
     earth?" -i.e., to hades. Verse 10 adds: "He who descended is the same
     as He who ascended above all the heavens." Presumably He led the whole
     band of liberated captives from hades (i.e., the whole population of
     preresurrection paradise) up to the glory of heaven.

ra> Whenever your personal interpretation of Biblical passages is
ra> challenged, your only response seems to be that one needs merely to
ra> "look at the Bible" in order to see the truth, but what of those who
ra> see Biblical things differently from you?

     I think that this characterization is faulty. Whenever my 'personal
     interpretation' is questioned, I usually give a reason.

     As for those that see things differently, please, put forward where
     there is a valid difference, and we can discuss it.

     I seem to be seeing from you the notion that any difference in how one
     views the Bible is somehow legitimate, except, or course, for the stuff
     that I glean from it. Put forward a contrary view and perhaps we can
     have a discussion on that topic. But to decry something that I put
     forward, without putting forward something else to discuss, and to
     dismiss what I put forward while giving credence to other alleged views
     that have yet to be put forward is simply being contentious.

ra> Are we to simply assume that you are the only one who really
ra> understands it?

     If you believe that something that I have drawn from Scripture is
     wrong, then please, show me from Scripture where it is wrong.  Simply
     stating that there are other views is not a proof. Show it to me from
     Scripture and then we can go on.


Ah! Excellent. So why doesn't she appear to me? I'm a little weak in the
blind faith department. (Besides, she doesn't even really need to appear:
how about, oh say, a little tip - something like "put your all on #3 in the
7:30 at the Dog Races" ... perhaps in a dream or vision.)

I'm afraid I don't know arabic; I have only read translations. I wouldn't
know it if it were well-written. (Consistent, though, is one thing the Quran
is not.)  And have *you* read it in arabic?  Besides, some of my best
writing has been done under the influence of, shall we say, consciousness
altering substances.

Yes, so? How do we know they *weren't* very good? (Again, assuming that the
Quran is beautfully written.)

Ok, I retract this point. (Although I might still say that once he knew, he
should have done something about it.)

I haven't interviewed all muslims about this; I would really like it if this
were false. But I can't take it on your say-so - what are your sources?

What other basis do we have to judge a system? Especially when we can't get
a consistent picture of what Islam "really" is. Do I believe Khomeini? Do I
go by the Imam of the mosque in Mecca? Or perhaps the guy in New Jersey? Or
perhaps you say I should go only by the Quran. Ok, whose translation? And
what about things like "And wherever you find idolators, kill them"?

-s


Krzysztof Muchorowski was asking about GIF-to-TGA conversion so that he
could use DTA 1.5 to convert the TGA files to FLI animation files.


This is a heavily edited/modified version of the Gopher FAQ intended to
give people just starting with gopher enough information to get a
client and jump into Gopher-space - a complete version can be obtained
as described below.  Once you have a gopher client point it at
merlot.welch.jhu.edu and welcome to gopher-space!

Dan Jacobson

danj@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu

-----

Common Questions and Answers about the Internet Gopher, a
client/server protocol for making a world wide information service,
with many implementations.  Posted to comp.infosystems.gopher,
comp.answers, and news.answers every two weeks.

The most recent version of this FAQ can be gotten through gopher, or
via anonymous ftp:

rtfm.mit.edu:/pub/usenet/news.answers/gopher-faq

Those without FTP access should send e-mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu
with "send usenet/news.answers/finding-sources" in the body to find out
how to do FTP by e-mail.

-------------------------------------------------------------------
List of questions in the Gopher FAQ:

Q0:  What is Gopher?
Q1:  Where can I get Gopher software?
Q2:  What do I need to access Gopher?
Q3:  Where are there publicly available logins for Gopher?
Q4:  Who Develops Gopher Software?
Q5: What is the relationship between Gopher and (WAIS, WWW, ftp)?
Q6: Are papers or articles describing Gopher available?
Q7: What is veronica?
Q8: What is Available for Biology?
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Q0:  What is Gopher?

A0:  The Internet Gopher client/server provides a distributed
     information delivery system around which a world/campus-wide
     information system (CWIS) can readily be constructed.   While
     providing a delivery vehicle for local information,  Gopher
     facilitates access to other Gopher and information servers
     throughout the world.

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Q1:  Where can I get Gopher software?

A1:  via anonymous ftp to boombox.micro.umn.edu.  Look in the directory
     /pub/gopher

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Q2:  What do I need to access Gopher?

A2:  You will need a gopher "client" program that runs on your local PC
     or workstation

     There are clients for the following systems.  The directory
     following the name is the location of the client on the anonymous
     ftp site boombox.micro.umn.edu (134.84.132.2) in the directory
     /pub/gopher.

      Unix Curses & Emacs   :  /pub/gopher/Unix/gopher1.12.tar.Z
      Xwindows (athena)     :  /pub/gopher/Unix/xgopher1.2.tar.Z
      Xwindows (Motif)      :  /pub/gopher/Unix/moog
      Xwindows (Xview)      :  /pub/gopher/Unix/xvgopher
      Macintosh Hypercard   :  /pub/gopher/Macintosh-TurboGopher/old-versions *
      Macintosh Application :  /pub/gopher/Macintosh-TurboGopher *
      DOS w/Clarkson Driver :  /pub/gopher/PC_client/
      NeXTstep              :  /pub/gopher/NeXT/
      VM/CMS                :  /pub/gopher/Rice_CMS/ or /pub/gopher/VieGOPHER/
      VMS                   :  /pub/gopher/VMS/
      OS/2 2.0	            :  /pub/gopher/os2/
      MVS/XA                :  /pub/gopher/mvs/

     Many other clients and servers have been developed by others, the
     following is an attempt at a comprehensive list.

      A Microsoft Windows Winsock client "The Gopher Book"
        sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/micro/pc-stuff/ms-windows/winsock/goph_tbk.zip

      A Macintosh Application, "MacGopher".
        ftp.cc.utah.edu:/pub/gopher/Macintosh *

      Another Macintosh application, "GopherApp".
        ftp.bio.indiana.edu:/util/gopher/gopherapp *

      A port of the UNIX curses client for DOS with PC/TCP
        oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu:/public/dos/misc/dosgopher.exe

      A port of the UNIX curses client for PC-NFS
     	 bcm.tmc.edu:/nfs/gopher.exe

      A beta version of the PC Gopher client for Novell's LAN Workplace
      for DOS
         lennon.itn.med.umich.edu:/dos/gopher

      A VMS DECwindows client for use with Wollongong or UCX
         job.acs.ohio-state.edu:XGOPHER_CLIENT.SHARE

     * Note: these Macintosh clients require MacTCP.

     Most of the above clients can also be fetched via a gopher client
     itself.  Put the following on a gopher server:

       Type=1
       Host=boombox.micro.umn.edu
       Port=70
       Path=
       Name=Gopher Software Distribution.

     Or point your gopher client at boombox.micro.umn.edu, port 70 and
     look in the gopher directory.

     There are also a number of public telnet login sites available.
     The University of Minnesota operates one on the machine
     "consultant.micro.umn.edu" (134.84.132.4) See Q3 for more
     information about this.  It is recommended that you run the client
     software instead of logging into the public telnet login sites.  A
     client uses the custom features of the local machine (mouse,
     scroll bars, etc.)  A local client is also faster.

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Q3:  Where are there publicly available logins (ie places to telnet to
     in order to get a taste of gopher) for Gopher?

A3:  Here is a short list, use the site closest to you to minimize
     network lag.

     Telnet Public Logins:

     Hostname                  IP#              Login   Area
     ------------------------- ---------------  ------  -------------
     consultant.micro.umn.edu  134.84.132.4	gopher  North America
     gopher.uiuc.edu           128.174.33.160   gopher  North America
     panda.uiowa.edu           128.255.40.201	panda   North America
     gopher.sunet.se           192.36.125.2     gopher  Europe
     info.anu.edu.au           150.203.84.20    info    Australia
     gopher.chalmers.se        129.16.221.40    gopher  Sweden
     tolten.puc.cl             146.155.1.16     gopher  South America
     ecnet.ec		           157.100.45.2     gopher  Ecuador
     gan.ncc.go.jp             160.190.10.1     gopher  Japan

     It is recommended that you run the client software instead of
     logging into the public login sites.  A client uses the
     custom features of the local machine (mouse, scroll bars, etc.)
     and gives faster response.  Furthermore many of the basic features
     of clients - saving a file to your hard drive, printing a file
     to a local printer, viewing images, retrieving files from ftp
     sites etc.... are not available by the telnet logins.

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Q4:  Who Develops Gopher Software?

A4:  Gopher was originally developed in April 1991 by the University
     of Minnesota Microcomputer, Workstation, Networks Center to help
     our campus find answers to their computer questions.

     It has since grown into a full-fledged World Wide Information
     System used by a large number of sites in the world.

     Many people have contributed to the project, too numerous to
     count.

     The people behind the much of the gopher software can be reached
     via e-mail at gopher@boombox.micro.umn.edu, or via paper mail:

      Internet Gopher Developers
      100 Union St. SE #190
      Minneapolis, MN 55455  USA

     Or via FAX at:

      +1 (612) 625-6817

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Q5: What is the relationship between Gopher and (WAIS, WWW, ftp)?

A5: Gopher is intimately intertwined with these two other systems.
     As shipped the Unix gopher server has the capability to:

       - Search local WAIS indices.
       - Query remote WAIS servers and funnel the results to gopher
         clients.
       - Query remote ftp sites and funnel the results to gopher
         clients.
       - Be queried by WWW (World Wide Web) clients (either using
         built in gopher querying or using native http querying.

-------------------------------------------------------------------
Q6: Are papers or articles describing Gopher available?

A6: Gopher has a whole chapter devoted to it in :

     _The_Whole_Internet_, Ed Kroll, O'Reilly, 1992 (Editors note:
                             ..Great book, go out and buy a bunch!)

     _The_Internet_Passport: NorthWestNet's Guide to Our World Online"
     By Jonathan Kochmer and NorthWestNet. Published by NorthWestNet,
     Bellevue, WA. 1993. 516 pp. ISBN 0-9635281-0-6.
     Contact info: passport@nwnet.net, or (206) 562-3000

     _A_Students_Guide_to_UNIX by Harley Hahn. (publisher McGraw Hill,
     Inc.; 1993 ISBN 0-07-025511-3)

     Other references include:

     _The_Internet_Gopher_, "ConneXions", July 1992, Interop.

     _Exploring_Internet_GopherSpace_ "The Internet Society News", v1n2 1992,

     (You can subscribe to the Internet Society News by sending e-mail to
      isoc@nri.reston.va.us)

     _The_Internet_Gopher_Protocol_, Proceedings of the Twenty-Third
          IETF, CNRI, Section 5.3

     _Internet_Gopher_, Proceedings of Canadian Networking '92

     _The_Internet_Gopher_, INTERNET: Getting Started, SRI
          International, Section 10.5.5

     _Tools_help_Internet_users_discover_on-line_treasures, Computerworld,
          July 20, 1992

     _TCP/IP_Network_Administration_, O'Reilly.

      Balakrishan, B. (Oct 1992)
        "SPIGopher: Making SPIRES databases accessible through the
      Gopher protocol".  SPIRES Fall '92 Workshop, Chapel Hill, North
      Carolina.

      Tomer, C.  Information Technology Standards for Libraries,
      _Journal of the American Society for Information Science_,
      43(8):566-570, Sept 1992.

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Q7: What is veronica?

A7: veronica:  Very Easy Rodent-Oriented Net-wide Index to
     Computerized Archives.

     veronica offers a keyword search of most gopher-server menu titles
     in the entire gopher web.  As archie is to ftp archives, veronica
     is to gopherspace.  A veronica search produces a menu of gopher
     items, each of which is a direct pointer to a gopher data source.
     Because veronica is accessed through a gopher client, it is easy
     to use, and gives access to all types of data supported by the
     gopher protocol.

     To try veronica, select it from the "Other Gophers" menu on
     Minnesota's gopher server, or point your gopher at:

     Name=veronica (search menu items in most of GopherSpace)
     Type=1
     Port=70
     Path=1/veronica
     Host=futique.scs.unr.edu

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Q8: What is Available for Biology?

A8: There is an incredible amount of software, data and information
    availble to biologists now by gopher.

Here is a brief list of the Biological Databases that you can search
via gopher:

      2.  BDT Tropical Data Base Searches/
      3.  Biotechnet Buyers Guide - Online Catalogues for Biology <TEL>
      4.  Search Protein Data Bank Headers <?>
      5.  Chlamydomonas Genetics Center /
      6.  Crystallization database/
      7.  HGMP Databases - Probes and Primers /
      8.  Museum of Paleontology TYPE Specimen Index <?>
      9.  MycDB - Mycobacterium DataBase <?>
      10. Search (Drosophila) Flybase (Indiana)/
      11. Search (GenBank + SWISS-PROT + PIR + PDB)  <?>
      12. Search AAtDB -  An Arabidopsis thaliana Database <?>
      13. Search ACEDB - A Caenorhabditis elegans Database <?>
      14. Search CompoundKB - A Metabolic Compound Database <?>
      15. Search Databases at Welchlab (Vectors, Promoters, NRL-3D, EST, OMI../
      16. Search EMBL <?>
      17. Search GenBank <?>
      18. Search Genbank - 2 <?>
      19. Search Genbank Updates <?>
      20. Search LiMB <?>
      21. Search PIR  <?>
      22. Search PIR (keyword,species...) <?>
      23. Search PROSITE <?>
      24. Search Rebase - Restriction Enzyme Database <?>
      25. Search SWISS-PROT <?>
      26. Search TFD <?>
      27. Search the C. elegans Strain List  <?>
      28. Search the DNA Database of Japan <?>
      29. Search the EC Enzyme Database  <?>
      30. Search the GrainGenes database  <?>
      31. Search the Maize Database /
      32.  Cloning Vectors: plasmids, phage, etc. <?>
      33.  EPD - Eukaryotic Promoter Database <?>
      34.  EST - Expressed Sequence Tag Database - Human <?>
      35.  wEST - Expressed Sequence Tag Database - C. elegans <?>
      36.  Kabat Database of Proteins of Immunological Interest <?>
      37.  NRL_3D Protein Sequence-Structure Database <?>
      38.  OMIM - Online Mendelian Inheritance in Man <?>
      39.  Seqanalref - Sequence Analysis Bibliographic Reference Data Ban.. <?>
      40. Search Rebase - Restriction Enzyme Database <?>
      41. Search the EC Enzyme Database <?>
      42. Search The Rodent Section of Genbank <?>
      43. Database Taxonomy (Genbank, Swiss-Prot ...)/
      44. Retrieve Full PDB Entries by Accession Number <?>
      45. Search for All Researchers funded by NIH <?>
      46. Search for Genome Researchers funded by DOE <?>
      47. Search for Researchers funded by NSF <?>
      48. Search for Researchers funded by the USDA <?>
      49. E-mail Addresses of Crystallographers/
      50. E-mail Addresses of Yeast Reasearchers/
      51. Phonebooks Around the World/
      52.  Search and Retrieve Software for All Computers/
      53.  Search and Retrieve Macintosh Software/
      54.  Search and Retrieve DOS Software/
      55.  Search and Retrieve GNU Software/
      56.  Search and Retrieve Software for Biology/
      57.  Search for Agricultural Software/
      58.  Search and Retrieve Graphics Software and Data/
      59.  Search and Retrieve all Online Perl Scripts/
      60.  FTP Sites For Biology (56 archives for software and data)/


I've written an application for SparcStation 2 GX+, under OpenWindows 3.0.

The application uses XView stuff to create my window, and the SUN XGL
graphics library for rendering into the Canvas.

The application does real-time 2-D animation, but it does not update the
the display fast enough.
I'm using notify_set_itimer (XView call) to periodically kick off my
update routine, and it's not happening fast enough. I want it to
update 25 times / second. It's only doing about 11. Also, it appears to
be compute bound, because if I run anything else while my appplication is
up, the update rate slows down even more.


I was just wondering if exercises specific to particular regions of the
body (such as thighs) will basically only tone the thighs, or if fat
from other parts of the body (such as breasts) would be affected just as
much.


Come on Boston, where the hell are you? Seven wins in a row and what, choke?

I'd much rather see the Bruins in the Wales Conference finals vs. Pitt than
Buffalo or Quebec, if only because it would be more interesting.  Not that
Buffalo or Quebec can't put up a good fight, but I'd much more enjoy a 7-0
pasteing of the Bruins than the Devils.  You have to feel for Terrerri(sp?).


fans into the game but surely they would rather see Broten taking a pass from
Kovalev and scoring a breakaway goal to put the Rangers up 3 (magic #) goals in
the third period, rather than seeing Kocur take another stupid penalty and the
Rangers giving up another powerplay goal!

The Rangers need another top flight center who can take the pressure off
Messier and the first line.  Nemchinov is a perfect third line center.

So who goes Beezer or Richter?


I saw this a few years ago on "Tomorrow's World" (low-brow BBC
technology news program).  The patient is lowered into a bath of
de-ionized water and carefully positioned.  High intensity pressure
waves are generated by an electric spark in the water (you don't get
electrocuted because de-ionised water does not conduct).  These waves are
focused on the kidneys by a parabolic reflector and cause the stone to
break up.  This is completely painless.

Of course, you then have to get these little bits of gravel through
the urethra.  Ouch!

Paul.


Static test firings are now scheduled for this Saturday.....after many
schedule changes.....


csrc.ncsl.nist.gov (129.6.54.11) is ftp-able from here...


We use a CD-ROM based system here.  There are about 45 CD-ROM disks and a
4-disk changer hooked to a dedicated MS-DOS computer.  It contains scanned
images of data book pages for several thousand parts.  When you ask it for
something it knows about (mostly active IC parts), it works quite well.
THey don't handle all the varieties of transistors or diodes that exist.
It is definately a start in the right direction, but they need to expand
the data base to handle more types of stuff.

These systems aren't cheap.  We paid about $7,000 for the liscence and get
monthly updates of some of the CD-ROM disks.  We send the old ones back to
them so that they will keep sending us the updates.  I think we pay a
yearly maintainence fee of about $1,500 to get the updates.

If you find the part you want, you can look at the data sheet on a
page-sized monitor (it's a special monitor from SigmaSystems).  You can
also print each page of the datasheet you want on a LaserJet printer.  Page
printing takes a couple of minutes per page.  It can take a while to dump
the 5 or 6 pages you usually need.

I have a feeling the maker wouldn't like it if we made the data available
to all Internet users.    :-)

  -dave