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Disclaimer - dont know these guys from a bar of soap, but the price
looks reasonable.


As will I, and the Ultimate Lurker.


In my opinion, the limited tort option is the best thing Casey has ever
done. Basically, limited tort means that you give up your right to sue
for pain and suffering, unless one of the following conditions is met:
1. Your medical bills resulting from the accident exceed $X (where X is
some number like 50,000 -- I'm not sure of the exact number)

2. The accident was caused by a drunk driver (I mean, the OTHER driver
was drunk)

3. You get a good lawyer and have a good case (basically, you can appeal
to regain your right to sue, but there's almost no chance of this ever
happening).

You are only giving up your right to sue for pain and suffering; you can
still sue for medical costs, actual damages, etc. By agreeing to limited
tort, you are essentially giving up your right to be an asshole who
treats every accident as an entry into the litigation lottery. In
exchange, you get a substantial reduction in your rates. I save
$150/year.


My first encounter with a dog chasing after my bike was on my first poker run.
A big german shepard ran out into the pack of bikes I was riding with and tried
to bite the right leg of the guy riding in front of me. He kicked the dog a
couple of times (we were all only going about 10-15mph) and just made the dog
angrier and got away by applying WFO and outrunning the dog who then started
after yours truly. At the time, I had open drag pipes (obnoxiously loud as hell)
and as soon as the dog was about 2 feet away from the right side of my bike, I
pulled in the clutch and revved the motor up to about 5000rpm and the roar of
the pipes frightened the dog away (probably made the dog's ears hurt like hell)
and he didn't come back for the rest of the bikers behind me either.

My second encounter was with an already deceased road-kill dog. I wasn't paying
very close attention to the pavement when the car in front of me straddled the
carcass. I looked down just in time to see what I was about to run over so I
just held onto the handlebars and freaked out. Both wheels went squarely over
the dog's belly with a thump-thump just like running over a piece of a 4x4
lumber. The bike didn't lose any stability at all and I kept on going. After
I got to my destination, I found bits of fur, meat, and blood stuck to
the bottom of my motor and frame...... gross.


Janet Reno, the FBI, et al were nothing but pawns in Koresh's game.
He was a madman who was going to hurt the children, and everyone
else in the compound no matter what the FBI did.

Such a hostage situation has taken place on numerous occasions
with the result of the police trying to take the place by
force and the result being the death of the hostages and the
gunmen. However, this is the first time I've heard of
the blame landing squarely on the police.

In this country we have a policy of not negotiating a back down
from terrorists and hostage takers since that only encourages
other terrorists and hostage takers.


Yes, that's him.  Was I not specific enough?

Just because someone consistently pulls the ball does not mean that
they have a quick bat.  Dawson's release is slow, and he *IS* 38, after
all.  He may swing early, and rotate his hips so that he hits the ball to
the left side all the time, but he swings slowly.

As for me disagreeing with Peter Gammons... Whoa!  That's never happened
before!  Next thing you know, I'll probably believe Dave Campbell is the
biggest imbecile even to come near a mic, and that Ray Knight has
the IQ of drained crankcase oil.


WinFax Pro provides you with OCR. It is the OCR from OmniPage.
	Although it is not as customizable it does the job and is auto
	matic (if you want) and much cheaper than the same package
	(Omni Page Professional = $700) sold separatly.


These are comics I want to sell that are X-comic/Mutant related.  All
prices are at least 30% off the Overstreet price.  All are NM-M
condition, bagged and backed.  If you don't like these prices, make an
offer!

TITLE                                                   PRICE
--------------------------------------------------------------
Alpha Flight 13 (Wolverine appears)			$ 8.40
Avengers  263 (1st Appearance X-Factor)			$ 3.50
Daredevil 196 (Wolverine appears)			$ 8.40
Fantastic Four 347 (Art Adams art, Wolverine)		$ 3.50
Fantastic Four 348 (Wolverine & Ghost Rider appear)	$ 2.10
Fantastic Four 349 (Wolverinr & Ghost Rider appear)	$ 2.10
Havok and Wolverine: Meltdown 1 (Epic Comics)		$ 2.80
Marvel Comics Presents 1 (Wolverine, Silver Surfer)     $ 7.00
		       2 (Wolverine, Master of KungFu)	$ 3.50
		       3 (Wolverine, Master of KungFu)	$ 3.50
		       4 (Wolverine, Master of KungFu)	$ 3.50
		       5 (Wolverine, Daredevil)		$ 3.50
		       6 (Wolverine, Hulk)		$ 2.80
		       7 (Wolverine, Submariner)	$ 2.80
		       10 (Wolverine, Man-Thing)	$ 2.80
		       11 (Man-Thing, Ant-Man)		$ 1.40
		       12 (Man-Thing, Colossus)		$ 1.40
		       13 (Black Panther, Shanna)	$ 1.40
                       14 (Black Panther, Nomad)        $ 1.40
		       17 (Ron Lim art, Black Panther)	$ 1.40
		       18 (Ron Lim art, Black Panther)	$ 1.40
		       19 (Rob Liefeld art, Cyclops)	$ 1.40
		       20 (Ron Lim art, Black Panther)	$ 1.40
		       21 (Ron Lim art, Black Panther)	$ 1.40
		       22 (Ron Lim art, Black Panther)	$ 1.40
                       25 (Nth Man, Havok, Blk Panther) $ 1.40
		       26 (Black Panther, Havok, Hulk)	$ 1.40
		       27 (Black Panther, Havok)	$ 1.40
		       28 (Black Panther, Havok)	$ 1.40
		       29 (Black Panther, Havok)	$ 1.40
		       30 (Black Panther, Havok)	$ 1.40
		       31 (Erik Larsen, Excalibur)	$ 1.40
                       52 (Rob Liefeld, Wolverine)      $ 2.10
                       60 (Wolverine, Hulk)             $ 4.20
                       62 (Jackson Guice, Deathlok)     $ 5.60
                       63 (Poison, Thor, Scarlet Witch) $ 2.80
                       64 (Mark Texiera, Ghost Rider)   $ 3.15
                       65 (Mark Texiera, Ghost Rider)   $ 3.15
                       66 (Mark Texiera, Ghost Rider)   $ 3.15
                       67 (Mark Texiera, Ghost Rider)   $ 3.15
                       72 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)         $ 5.60
		       73 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)		$ 2.80
		       75 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)		$ 2.10
		       76 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)		$ 2.10
                       77 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X,Dracula) $ 2.10
		       80 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)		$ 2.10
		       81 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)		$ 1.75
                       82 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)         $ 1.75
                       83 (B.W.Smith, Weapon X)         $ 1.75
                       84 (B.W. Smith, Weapon X)        $ 1.75
                       85 (1st Keith art and Jae Lee)   $ 4.20
		       97 (Ghost Rider, Cable)		$ 1.40
		       104 (Wolverine, Ghost Rider)	$ 1.05
                       106 (Wolverine, Ghost Rider)     $ 1.05
Marvel Fanfare 4 (X-Men/Ka-Zar team-up, Deathlok app)   $ 4.20
Marvel Team-Up 100 (1st Karma by Miller, Byrne X-men)	$ 5.60
	       117 (Wolverine cover/story)		$ 8.40
New Mutants 18 (Intro new Warlock, Magus)               $ 6.30
            88 (Rob Liefeld, 2nd Cable)                 $14.00
            89 (Rob Liefeld, 3rd Cable)                 $10.50
            90 (Rob Liefeld, Sabretooth appears)        $ 8.40
            91 (Rob Liefeld, Sabretooth appears)        $ 8.40
            93 (Rob Liefeld, Wolverine vs Cable)        $10.50
            94 (Rob Liefeld, Wolverine vs Cable)        $10.50
            98 (1st app Deadpool, Gideon, Domino)       $ 8.40
            100 (1st app X-Force)                       $ 6.30
	    Annual 4 (Evolutionary War)			$ 2.10
	    Annual 5 (1st Liefeld art on New Mutants)	$12.60
	    Annual 6					$ 1.40
            Annual 7 (2nd app X-Force)                  $ 8.40
	    Summer Special 1 (Art Adams art)		$ 2.10
Power Pack 27 (Wolverine and Sabretooth appear)         $ 7.00
Spider-Man 16 (McFarlane/Liefeld art, X-Force appears)  $ 3.00
Thor 374 (Mutant Massacre, X-Factor, Sabretooth app)    $ 5.60
Wolverine 10 (Before claws, 1st battle with Sabretooth)	$16.80
	  41 (Sabretooth claims to be Wolverine's dad)	$ 7.00
	  42 (Sabretooth proven not to be his dad)	$ 3.50
	  43 (Sabretooth/Wolverine saga concludes)	$ 2.80
Wolverine 1 (1982 mini-series, Miller art)		$21.00
X-Factor 47                                             $ 1.05
         51 (Sabretooth appears)                        $ 3.50
         52 (Sabretooth appears)                        $ 3.50
         53 (Sabretooth appears)                        $ 3.50
	 57 						$ 1.00
	 62 (X-Tinction Agenda, Jim Lee cover)		$ 4.20
	 63 (Whilce Portacio art begins)		$ 4.20
         69 (Whilce Portacio art)                       $ 1.40
         70 (Last "Old Team" issue)                     $ 1.40
         Annual 6 (New Warriors, X-Force appear)        $ 1.75
X-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, X-Force card)     $25.00
        1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Shatterstar card) $15.00
        1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Deadpool card)    $15.00
        1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Sunspot/Gideon)   $15.00
        1 (Bagged, Cable card)                          $ 4.20
X-Men 226 (Fall of the mutants)				$ 5.60
      239 (Inferno)					$ 2.80
      245 (Rob Liefeld art)				$ 2.10
      267 (Jim Lee art series begins)			$ 8.40
      276 (Jim Lee art)					$ 1.05
      277 (Last Jim Lee art)				$ 1.05
      280						$ 1.05
      281 (New X-Men team, 1st printing)		$ 4.20

All comics are in near mint to mint condition, are bagged in shiny
polypropylene bags, and backed with white acid free boards.  Shipping is
$1.50 for one book, $3.00 for more than one book, or free if you order
a large enough amount of stuff.  I am willing to haggle.

I have thousands and thousands of other comics, so please let me know what
you've been looking for, and maybe I can help.  Some titles I have posted
here don't list every issue I have of that title, I tried to save space.


On 21-Apr-93 in Re: ABORTION and private he..
Not so in PA.  Recently the gender inequity in auto insurance was
removed.  Just a point.


------------

Shaft: Bamboozle, beat, beguile, burn (or flame), deceive, hoax,
       hoodwink.

Drive: Campaign, crusade, push.

So, 'shaft drive' may be a campaign to decieve or a crusade of beguile,
efforts where are true to the spirit of this list.

Wheel: revolution, swing

Crusaders of beguile are innefective in revolutions and they cannot
swing, either, therefore shaft drives cannot do wheelies.


THE ELECTRONIC JOURNAL OF
                  THE ASTRONOMICAL SOCIETY OF THE ATLANTIC

                       Volume 4, Number 9 - April 1993

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                              TABLE OF CONTENTS

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          * ASA Membership and Article Submission Information

          * The Soviets and Venus, Part 3 - Larry Klaes

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                             THE SOVIETS AND VENUS
                                     PART 3

                       Copyright (c) 1993 by Larry Klaes

	The author gives permission to any group or individual wishing
	to distribute this article, so long as proper credit is given,
        the author is notified, and the article is reproduced in its
        entirety.

        To the North Pole!

        On June 2 and 7, 1983, two of the Soviet Union's mighty PROTON
    rockets lifted off from the Tyuratam Space Center in the Kazakhstan
    Republic.  Aboard those boosters were a new breed of VENERA probe
    for the planet Venus.

        Designated VENERA 15 and 16, the probes were meant not for landing
    yet more spherical craft on the Venerean surface but to radar map the
    planet in detail from orbit.  To accomplish this task, the basic
    VENERA design was modified in numerous areas.  The central bus core
    was made one meter (39.37 inches) longer to carry the two tons of
    propellant required for braking into orbit, double the fuel carried by
    the VENERA 9 and 10 orbiters eight years earlier.  Extra solar panels
    were added on to give the vehicles more power for handling the large
    amounts of data which would be created by the radar imaging.  The
    dish-shaped communications antennae were also made one meter larger
    to properly transmit this information to Earth.

        Atop the buses, where landers were usually placed, were installed
    the 1.4 by 6-meter (4.62 by 19.8-foot), 300-kilogram (660-pound)
    POLYUS V side-looking radar antennae.  The radar system, possibly a
    terrain-imaging version of the nuclear-powered satellites used by
    the Soviets for Earth ocean surveillance, would be able to map Venus'
    surface at a resolution of one to two kilometers (0.62 to 1.2 miles).

        The Soviet probes' imaging parameters were a vast improvement over
    the United States PIONEER VENUS Orbiter, which could reveal objects
    no smaller than 75 kilometers (45 miles) in diameter.  And while the
    VENERAs' resolution was comparable to that of similar observations
    made by the 300-meter (1,000-foot) Arecibo radio telescope on the
    island of Puerto Rico, the orbiters would be examining the northern
    pole of Venus.  This region was unobtainable by either Arecibo or
    PIONEER VENUS and appeared to contain a number of potentially
    interesting geological features worthy of investigation.

        On October 10, 1983, after an interplanetary journey of 330
    million kilometers (198 million miles) and two mid-course corrections,
    VENERA 15 fired its braking rockets over Venus to place itself in a
    polar orbit 1,000 by 65,000 kilometers (600 by 39,000 miles) around
    the planet, completing one revolution every twenty-four hours.  VENERA
    16 followed suit four days later.  The twin probes thus became Venus'
    first polar-circling spacecraft.

        Radar operations began on October 16 for VENERA 15 and October 20
    for VENERA 16.  For up to sixteen minutes every orbit over the north
    pole, the probes would make a radar sweep of the surface 150 kilometers
    (ninety miles) wide and nine thousand kilometers (5,400 miles) long.
    The craft would then head out to the highest part of their orbits over
    the south pole to recharge their batteries and transmit the data back
    to two large Soviet antennae on Earth.  Each strip of information took
    eight hours to process by computer.  By the end of their main missions
    in July of 1984, the VENERAs had mapped 115 million square kilometers
    (46 million square miles), thirty percent of the entire planet.

        VENERA 15 and 16 revealed that Venus has a surface geology more
    complex than shown by PIONEER VENUS in the late 1970s.  Numerous hills,
    mountains, ridges, valleys, and plains spread across the landscape,
    many of them apparently formed by lava from erupting volcanoes in the
    last one billion years.  In planetary terms this makes the Venerean
    surface rather young.  Hundreds of craters were detected as well, the
    largest of which had to have been created by meteorites (planetoids
    would be a better term here) at least fourteen kilometers (8.4 miles)
    across, due to Venus' very dense atmosphere.

        There were some disagreements between U.S. and Soviet scientists
    on the origins of certain surface features.  For example, the probes'
    owners declared that the 96-kilometer (57.6-mile) wide crater at the
    summit of 10,800-meter (35,640-foot) high Maxwell Montes, the tallest
    mountain on the planet, was the result of a meteorite impact.  American
    scientists, on the other hand, felt the crater was proof that Maxwell
    was a huge volcano sitting on the northern "continent" of Ishtar Terra.

        In any event, the U.S. decided to wait on making verdicts about
    Venus until the arrival of their own radar probe, scheduled for later
    in the decade.  Originally named the Venus Orbiting Imaging Radar
    (VOIR), its initial design was scaled back and the craft was redesig-
    nated the Venus Radar Mapper (VRM).  Eventually the machine would be
    called MAGELLAN, after the Portuguese navigator Ferdinand Magellan
    (circa 1480-1521).  This vehicle would map the entire planet in even
    finer detail than the VENERAs.  For the time, however, the Soviet
    probes maintained that distinction.

        Radar imaging was not the only ability of the VENERAs.  Bolted
    next to the POLYUS V radar antenna were the Omega altimeter and the
    Fourier infrared spectrometer, the latter for measuring the world's
    temperatures.  The majority of the areas covered registered about
    five hundred degrees Celsius (932 degrees Fahrenheit), but a few
    locations were two hundred degrees hotter, possibly indicating
    current volcanic activity.  The probes also found that the clouds
    over the poles were five to eight kilometers (three to 4.8 miles)
    lower than at the equator.  In contrast, the polar air above sixty
    kilometers (thirty-six miles) altitude was five to twenty degrees
    warmer than the equatorial atmosphere at similar heights.

        When the main mapping mission ended in July of 1984, there were
    plans for at least one of the VENERAs to radar image the surface at
    more southernly latitudes.  Unfortunately this idea did not come to
    pass, as the orbiters may not have possessed enough attitude-control
    gas to perform the operation.

        VENERA 15 and 16 ceased transmission in March of 1985, leaving
    the Soviet Institute of Radiotechnology and Electronics with six
    hundred kilometers (360 miles) of radar data tape to sort into an
    atlas of twenty-seven maps of the northern hemisphere of Venus.

        Venus by Balloon

        For years the thick atmosphere of Venus had been a tempting
    target to scientists who wished to explore the planet's mantle of
    air with balloon-borne instruments.  Professor Jacques Blamont of
    the French space agency Centre National d'Etudes Spatiales (CNES)
    had proposed such an idea as far back as 1967, only to have a joint
    French-Soviet balloon mission canceled in 1982.  Nevertheless,
    late in the year 1984, such dreams would eventually come true.

        When two PROTON rockets were sent skyward on December 15 and 21,
    the Soviet Union provided Western observers with the first clear, full
    views of the booster which had been launching every Soviet Venus probe
    since 1975.  This was but one of many firsts for the complex mission.

        The unmanned probes launched into space that December were named
    VEGA 1 and 2, a contraction of the words VENERA and GALLEI - Gallei
    being the Russian word for Halley.  Not only did the spacecraft
    have more than one mission to perform, they also had more than one
    celestial objective to explore, namely the comet Halley.

        This famous periodic traveler was making its latest return to
    the inner regions of the solar system since its last visit in 1910.
    Since it was widely believed that comets are the icy remains from
    the formation of the solar system five billion years ago, scientists
    around the world gave high priority to exploring one of the few such
    bodies which actually come close to Earth.

        Most comets linger in the cold and dark outer fringes of the solar
    system.  Some, like Halley, are perturbed by various forces and fall
    in towards the Sun, where they circle for millennia spewing out ice
    and debris for millions of kilometers from the warmth of each solar
    encounter.

        The Soviet Union, along with the European Space Agency (ESA) and
    Japan's Institute of Space and Astronautical Science (ISAS), did not
    wish to miss out on this first opportunity in human history to make a
    close examination of Halley.  The ESA would be using the cylindrical
    GIOTTO probe to make a dangerously close photographic flyby of the
    comet, while Japan's first deep space craft - SAKIGAKE (Pioneer) and
    SUISEI (Comet) - would view Halley from a much safer distance.

        Scientists in the United States also desired to study the comet
    from the vantage of a space probe, at one time envisioning a vessel
    powered by solar sails or ion engines.  However, government budget
    cuts to NASA canceled the American efforts.  The U.S. would have to
    make do primarily with Earth-based observations and the sharing of
    data from other nations, though an instrument named the Dust Counter
    and Mass Analyzer (DUCMA), designed by Chicago University Professor
    John Simpson, was added on the Soviet mission in May of 1984.

        The Soviets' answer to Halley were the VEGAs.  Instead of building
    an entirely new craft for the mission, the Soviets decided to modify
    their VENERA bus design to encounter the comet while performing an
    advanced Venus mission along the way.  As VEGA 1 and 2 reached Venus,
    the buses would drop off one lander/balloon each and use the mass of
    the shrouded planet to swing them towards comet Halley, much as the
    U.S. probe MARINER 10 used Venus to flyby Mercury eleven years earlier.
    The Soviet craft would then head on to Halley, helping to pinpoint the
    location of the comet's erupting nucleus for the GIOTTO probe to dive
    in only 605 kilometers (363 miles) away in March of 1986.

        As planned, the two VEGAs arrived at Venus in June of 1985.  VEGA
    1 released its payload first on the ninth day of the month, the lander
    making a two-day descent towards the planet.  The craft touched the
    upper atmosphere on the morning of June 11.  Sixty-one kilometers
    (36.6 miles) above the Venerean surface a small container was released
    by the lander, which produced a parachute at 55 kilometers (33 miles)
    altitude.  Thus the first balloon probe ever to explore Venus had
    successfully arrived.

        One kilometer after the opening of the parachute, helium gas was
    pumped into the Teflon-coated plastic balloon, inflating it to a
    diameter of 3.54 meters (11.68 feet).  Dangling on a tether thirteen
    meters (42.9 feet) below was the instrument package, properly known as
    an aerostat.  The top part of the 6.9-kilogram (15.18-pound) aerostat
    consisted of a cone which served as an antenna and tether attachment
    point to the balloon.  Beneath it was the transmitter, electronics,
    and instruments.  Connected at the bottom was a nephelometer for
    measuring cloud particles.  The aerostat was painted with a special
    white finish to keep at bay the corroding mist of sulfuric acid which
    permeated the planet's atmosphere.

        The VEGA 1 balloon was dropped into the night side of Venus just
    north of the equator.  Scientists were concerned that the gas bag
    would burst in the heat of daylight, so they placed it in the darkened
    hemisphere to give the craft as much time as possible to return data.
    This action necessitated that the landers come down in the dark as
    well, effectively removing the camera systems used on previous missions.
    The author wonders, though, if they could have used floodlights similar
    to the ones attached to VENERA 9 and 10 in 1975, when Soviet scientists
    had thought the planet's surface was enshrouded in a perpetual twilight
    due to the permanently thick cloud cover.

        The first balloon transmitted for 46.5 hours right into the day
    hemisphere before its lithium batteries failed, covering 11,600
    kilometers (6,960 miles).  The threat of bursting in the day heat did
    not materialize.  The VEGA 1 balloon was stationed at a 54-kilometer
    (32.4-mile) altitude after dropping ballast at fifty kilometers
    (thirty miles), for this was considered the most active of the three
    main cloud layers reported by PIONEER VENUS in 1978.  Indeed the
    balloon was pushed across the planet at speeds up to 250 kilometers
    (150 miles) per hour.  Strong vertical winds bobbed the craft up and
    down two to three hundred meters (660 to 990 feet) through most of the
    journey.  The layer's air temperature averaged forty degrees Celsius
    (104 degrees Fahrenheit) and pressure was a mere 0.5 Earth atmosphere.
    The nephelometer could find no clear regions in the surrounding clouds.

        Early in the first balloon's flight, the VEGA 1 lander was already
    headed towards the Venerean surface.  Both landers were equipped with
    a soil drill and analyzer similar to the ones carried on VENERA 13
    and 14 in 1982.  However, VEGA 1 would become unable to report the
    composition of the ground at its landing site in Rusalka Planitia, the
    Mermaid Plain north of Aphrodite Terra.  While still ten to fifteen
    minutes away from landing, a timer malfunction caused the drill to
    accidentally begin its programmed activity sixteen kilometers (9.6
    miles) above the surface.

        There was neither any way to shut off the instrument before
    touchdown nor reactivate it after landing.  This was unfortunate not
    only for the general loss of data but also for the fact that most of
    Venus was covered with such smooth low-level lava plains and had never
    before been directly examined.  Nevertheless, the surface temperature
    and pressure was calculated at 468 degrees Celsius (874.4 degrees
    Fahrenheit) and 95 Earth atmospheres respectively during the lander's
    56 minutes of ground transmissions.  A large amount of background
    infrared radiation was also recorded at the site.

        As had been done when the drills and cameras on VENERA 11 and
    12 had failed in December of 1978, the Soviets focused on the data
    returned during the lander's plunge through the atmosphere.  The
    French-Soviet Malachite mass spectrometer detected sulfur, chlorine,
    and possibly phosphorus.  It is the sulfur - possibly from active
    volcanoes - which gives the Venerean clouds their yellowish color.
    The Sigma 3 gas chromatograph found that every cubic meter of air
    between an altitude of 48 and 63 kilometers (28.8 and 37.8 miles)
    contained one milligram (0.015 grain) of sulfuric acid.

        The VEGA 1 data on the overall structure of the cloud decks
    appeared to be at odds with the information from PIONEER VENUS.
    The case was made even stronger by the fact that VEGA 2's results
    nearly matched its twin.  The VEGAs found only two main cloud layers
    instead of the three reported by the U.S. probes.  The layers were
    three to five kilometers (1.8 to 3 miles) thick at altitudes of 50
    and 58 kilometers (30 and 34.8 miles).  The clouds persisted like a
    thin fog until clearing at an altitude of 35 kilometers (21 miles),
    much lower than the PV readings.  One possibility for the discrepan-
    cies may have been radical structural changes in the Venerean air
    over the last seven years.

        When the lander and balloon finally went silent, the last
    functioning part of the VEGA 1 mission, the flyby bus, sailed on
    for a 708 million-kilometer (424.8 million-mile) journey around
    the Sun to become the first probe to meet comet Halley.  On March
    6, 1986, the bus made a 8,890-kilometer (5,334-mile) pass at the
    dark and icy visitor before traveling on in interplanetary space.
    The Soviets had accomplished their first mission to two celestial
    bodies with one space vessel.

        On June 13, VEGA 2 released its lander/balloon payload for
    a two-day fall towards Venus.  Like its duplicate, the VEGA 2
    balloon radioed information back to the twenty antennae tracking
    it on Earth for 46.5 hours before battery failure on the morning
    side of the planet.  During its 11,100-kilometer (6,660-mile)
    flight over Venus, the second balloon entered in a rather still
    environment which became less so twenty hours into the mission.
    After 33 hours mission time the air became even more turbulent
    for a further eight hours.  When the balloon passed over a five-
    kilometer (three-mile) mountain on the "continent" of Aphrodite
    Terra, a powerful downdraft pulled the craft 2.5 kilometers (1.5
    miles) towards the surface.

        Temperature sensors on the VEGA 2 balloon reported that the air
    layer it was moving through was consistently 6.5 degrees Celsius
    (43.7 degrees Fahrenheit) cooler than the area explored by the VEGA 1
    balloon.  This was corroborated by the VEGA 2 lander as it passed
    through the balloon's level.  No positive indications of lightning
    were made by either balloon, and the second aerostat's nephelometer
    failed to function.

        The VEGA 2 lander touched down on the northern edge of Aphrodite
    Terra's western arm on the fifteenth of June, 1,500 kilometers (900
    miles) southeast of VEGA 1.  The lander's resting place was smoother
    than thought, indicating either a very ancient and worn surface or a
    relatively young one covered in fresh lava.  The soil drill was in
    working order and reported a rock type known as anorthosite-troctolite,
    rare on Earth but present in Luna's highlands.  This rock is rich in
    aluminum and silicon but lacking in iron and magnesium.  A high degree
    of sulfur was also present in the soil.  The air around VEGA 2 measured
    463 degrees Celsius (865.4 degrees Fahrenheit) and 91 Earth atmospheres,
    essentially a typical day (or night) on Venus.

        Far above the VEGA 2 lander, its carrier bus sped past Venus at
    a distance of 24,500 kilometers (14,700 miles) and followed its twin
    to comet Halley, making a closer flyby on March 9, 1986 at just 8,030
    kilometers (4,818 miles).  Both probes helped to reveal that the comet
    is a very dark and irregular-shaped mass about fourteen kilometers
    (8.4 miles) across, rotating once every 53 hours, give or take three
    hours.

        Since both VEGA craft were still functioning after their Halley
    encounters, Soviet scientists considered an option to send the
    probes to other celestial objects.  One prime target was the near-
    Earth planetoid 2101 Adonis, which VEGA 2 could pass at a distance
    of six million kilometers (3.6 million miles).  Sadly, the Soviets
    had to back out on the opportunity to become the first nation to fly
    a spacecraft past a planetoid when it was discovered that there was
    not enough maneuvering fuel in the probe to reach Adonis as planned.
    VEGA 1 and 2 were quietly shut down in early 1987.

        Future Plans Diverted

        The impressive VEGA mission had given some scientists numerous
    ideas and hope for even more ambitious expeditions to the second
    world from the Sun.  One example was the VESTA mission, planned for
    the early 1990s.

        This Soviet-French collaboration called for the launch of multiple
    probes on a single PROTON rocket in either 1991 or 1992.  The craft
    would first swing by Venus and drop off several landers and balloon
    probes.  The aerostats would be designed to survive in the planet's
    corrosive atmosphere for up to one month, a large improvement over
    the VEGA balloons' two days.  The mission would then head out to
    investigate several planetoids and comets, including a possible
    landing on Vesta (thus the mission name), the most reflective Main
    Belt planetoid as seen from Earth.

        Unfortunately for Venus exploration, plans began to change in
    the Soviet Union.  In 1986 the Soviets decided to reroute the VESTA
    mission to the red planet Mars instead of Venus, keeping the comet
    and planetoid aspects intact.  By this time in the Soviet space
    program interest was focusing on Mars.  Already under construction
    was an entirely new probe design called PHOBOS.  Two members of this
    class were planned to leave Earth in 1988 and orbit Mars the next
    year.  PHOBOS 1 and 2 would then place the first instruments on
    Mars' largest moon, Phobos.

        All this was a prelude to even more advanced Mars expeditions,
    including balloon probes, rovers, soil sample return craft, and
    eventually human explorers in the early Twenty-First Century.
    The environment of Venus was just too hostile for any serious
    consideration of human colonization in the near future.

        But things began to look bleak for Soviet Venus and Mars
    exploration.  Both PHOBOS probes failed to complete their missions,
    one losing contact on the way to the Red Planet in 1988 and the other
    going silent in Mars orbit just one week before the planned moon
    landing in March of 1989.

        In 1989 a plan was devised for a Venus orbiter to drop eight to
    ten penetrators around the planet in 1998.  Several years later the
    mission launch date was moved to the year 2005 and has now been put
    on indefinite hold.  No other official Soviet missions to Venus have
    since been put forth, a sad commentary after twenty-five years of
    continuous robotic exploration of the planet.

        During the late 1980s a drastic political and economic change
    was taking over the Soviet Union.  President Mikhail Gorbachev began
    to "open up" his nation to the benefits of increased cooperation with
    the rest of the nations, particularly those in the West.  While the
    culture became less oppressive than in the past, the economy was taking
    a very rough ride as it also underwent the effects of a "free market".

        These effects hit everywhere, including the space program.
    Missions at all levels were cut back.  The Soviets began making
    almost desperate attempts to cooperate with other space-faring
    nations either to keep their remaining programs alive or just to
    make money.

        In early 1992 it was reported that the Soviets were offering for
    sale several fully-equipped VENERAs they had in storage for the price
    of 1.6 million dollars each, an incredibly low price for any planetary
    probe.  No nation took them up on the bargain.  Meanwhile the United
    States was gearing up for new Venus missions of their own.

        MAGELLAN and GALILEO

        The U.S. reactivated their long-dormant planetary exploration
    with the launch of the Space Shuttle ATLANTIS on May 4, 1989.
    Aboard the Shuttle was the MAGELLAN spacecraft, a combination of
    spare parts from other U.S. probes designed to make the most
    detailed and complete radar-mapping of Venus in history.  When
    MAGELLAN reached the second world in August of 1990, it would be
    able to map almost the entire planet down to a resolution of 108
    meters (360 feet), surpassing the abilities of VENERA 15 and 16.

        In the interim another American probe was launched from a Space
    Shuttle which would make a quick flyby of Venus on its way to orbit
    the giant planet Jupiter in 1995.  On October 18, 1989, the Shuttle
    ATLANTIS released its second unmanned planetary probe into space,
    named GALILEO after the famous Italian astronomer who discovered the
    probe's primary target's major moons in 1610.

        In the absence of a powerful enough booster to send GALILEO on
    a direct flight to the Jovian planet, the probe was sent around
    Venus and Earth several times to build up enough speed to reach
    Jupiter.  As a result, Venus became GALILEO's first planetary
    goal in February of 1990.  The probe radioed back images of the
    planet's swirling clouds and further indications of lightning in
    that violent atmosphere.

        On the Drawing Boards

        With the incredible success of MAGELLAN in the last few years,
    new plans have been laid out for further journeys to Venus.  Scien-
    tists in the U.S. have talked to space scientists in the former Soviet
    Union - now the Commonwealth of Independent States since January 1,
    1992 - of a cooperative effort to launch new VENERA lander missions
    within in the next decade.  Japan, India, and the ESA have also
    considered their own Venus missions in the next few decades.

        In February of 1993 NASA came up with several new Venus projects
    as part of their Discovery Program for launching inexpensive probes
    throughout the solar system.  For Venus two missions were selected
    for further study:  A Venus Multiprobe Mission involving the landing
    of fourteen small probes over one hemisphere to measure winds, air
    temperature, and pressure; and the Venus Composition Probe, designed
    to study Venus' atmosphere while descending through the thick air
    with the aid of a parachute, much as the Soviets had done since 1967.
    Final project decisions will be made in 1994.

        Humans on Venus

        Will a human ever be able to stand on the surface of Venus?
    At present the lead-melting temperatures and crushing air pressure
    would be threatening to any Earth life not protected in something
    even tougher than a VENERA lander.  Plans have been looked into
    changing the environment of Venus itself into something more like
    Earth's.  However, it should be noted that any such undertaking
    will require the removal of much of the thick carbon dioxide
    atmosphere, a major reduction in surface heat, and the ability
    to speed up the planet's rotation rate to something a bit faster
    than once every 243 Earth days.  Such a project may take centuries
    if not millennia.

        In the meantime efforts should be made to better understand
    Venus as its exists today.  We still have yet to fully know how
    a world so seemingly similar to Earth in many important ways became
    instead such a deadly place.  Will Earth ever suffer this fate?
    Perhaps Venus holds the answers.  Such answers may best be found
    through international cooperation, including the nation which
    made the first attempts to lift the cloudy veils from Venus.

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    its founding in August of 1989.  Larry also teaches a course on
    Basic Astronomy at the Concord-Carlisle Adult and Community
    Education Program in Massachusetts.

        Larry is the author of the following EJASA articles:

        "The One Dream Man: Robert H. Goddard, Rocket Pioneer" - August 1989
        "Stopping Space and Light Pollution" - September 1989
        "The Rocky Soviet Road to Mars" - October 1989
        "Astronomy and the Family" - May 1991
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        "The Soviets and Venus, Part 2" - March 1993

      THE ELECTRONIC JOURNAL OF THE ASTRONOMICAL SOCIETY OF THE ATLANTIC

                          April 1993 - Vol. 4, No. 9


Please take this thread out of "tx.politics.talk.politics.guns" which does
not exist.  How about "tx.politics,talk.politics.guns" instead, eh?
--
Ed McGuire                   1603 LBJ Freeway, Suite 780
Systems Administrator/       Dallas, Texas 75234
 Member of Technical Staff   214/620-2100, FAX 214/484-8110
Intellection, Inc.           <ed@intellection.com>


The top 11 teams of this tournament will play in the Olympics next year.
The last team of this tournament, top two of pool B (Great Britain and
Poland) and the winner of pool C (Latvia) will play for the last Olympic
spot next fall.
  However, if next year's hosts Norway were to finish 12th (which would be
no surprise), then it's the 11th team of pool A that will have to play in
the qualification tournament.


Sorry 'bout that - Mine is a '91 model non-turbo 2.0. (with ABS and revised
suspension (whatever revised means)). I'm in Australia, so we always seem to
get the versions without extras which the Europeans and Americans get as
standard.

My query is, - why does the noise get noticeably LOUDER about 2-3 months after
an oil change. I just find it a bit wierd that this happens. Is it the oil I'm
using (Mobil 1) or is it the engine (the 3S-GE version/model) ie. gets
noiser the older the oil is (I'm only guessing).

Its not annoyingly distressing or anything, but just slightly puzzling.


Hi,

I'm looking for a program which is able to display 24 bits
images. We are using a Sun Sparc equipped with Parallax
graphics board running X11.


Can any body tell me where the most significant bit of the total horizontal
width hides out on the Tseng Labs ET4000 with a 15/16/24 bit dac?
I am trying to use the 640x480x16M mode under unix (so i cant just call int 10h)I have a program which dumps the contents of the card registers under dos, but I
am not sure I trust it for the extended registers of the et4000.
Anyway, the problem is that in this mode, the Horizontal Total Register
(3d4h index0) is apparently set to 0x27, but 3d4h index 1 (the displayed clocks)
is set to 0xEF, so 0x27 is nonsense. A resonable value would be 0x0127 - so is
there a high bit, and if so, where is it?
Also, how does one set the video dot clock to the appropriate frequency ( and
what would be an appropriate frequency?). The documentation isn't really very
clear (tseng.txt from  vgadoc2.zip from some ftp site) about this.
My card is a MegaVga/1024 1Mb card. Seems to have a Tseng Labs Bios (ver 8.05 I
think.) Works nicely under dos, and very well under unix (linux) in all the
non-hicolor modes. Great for running X-windows in up to 1152x900x256ni - if your
monitor will take it (only just in my case).

Please email the answer, as I can't read news very often.


Good point. Not only baseball but local NBA basketball games took
precedence over any SCA's NHL playoff coverage.


I'm not sure if this is a big issue, but it seems to me like it
might be -- up till now, all >1g forces applied to the mirror and
its mounting (and nearly all =1g forces) have been applied along the
telescope's optical axis, and against the mirror's base.  Reentry
would apply forces along roughly the same axis, but tending to pull
the mirror away from the mount, and the landing would apply on-edge
forces to both the mirror and mount.  It could be that one or both
of these would not survive.

greg
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-| In article <1993Apr28.200843.83413@embl-heidelberg.de>, tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev) writes...
-| >
-| >
-| >ANNOUNCEMENT:	The "HyperKnowledge" PROJECT for NeXTSTEP
-|
-| I know this is kinda off the subject of sci.space, but not really, I want to
-| answer this for their, as well as everyone else's information.  What these
-| people are proposing, by and large already exists and can be purchased today.
-|
-| It is called labview by National Instruments. IT is a wonderful object
-| IT is a wonderful object oriented graphical programming language.
-| [some lines deleted]

I am afraid you are mis-directed. NeXTSTEP is an operating system as opposed to
a package. I have read a little about it but since Steve Jobs does not seem to
have the marketing capabilities of Bill Gates my info. is limited. Probably why
the far inferior Windows NT is going to be more widely distributed (but that
is another flame-ridden story). Some of the innovative features of NeXTSTEP are
binary compatibility across platforms (eg you can just copy your program from
a Sparc to a PC and it would run, as opposed to buying the version of the package
ported to a PC), graphical object-oriented design (its all WSIWIG postscript),
supports parallel hetrogeneous processing, and best of all it is based around
the Mach micro-kernel so you can make it look like Unix with X, or DOS, or NT or
even VMS if you feel the need. No package out there comes even close. I hope
people will subscribe to the HyperKnowledge project and NeXTSTEP finally
takes off in my lifetime :-)


Advanced Kirlian Photography (try this at home, too)

1.  Get a camera
2.  Have your subject face you with his/her back to the sun.
3.  Take photo
4.  Observe the glow behind their silhouetted image on the photo
5.  Invent crackpot theory to explain the effect


[R2D2] Benjamin, my Zionist friend:
[R2D2]     It is amazing that there are still pigs like you left on this planet.
[R2D2] Occupied Palestine has become a prison for its own inhabitants, thanks
[R2D2] to you, the Zionist network around the world, and those who call
[R2D2] themselves "the chosen people of God".
[R2D2]     If there is a God, and for as long as we have a breath left, we will
[R2D2] fight for our freedom.  Benjamin, don't rest too easily...

Thanks for writing your name and identifying yourself, you coward.
That is right hide behind your blind rhetoric, but beware JLE the
Mossad agent wil come and get you.

Tsiel


If you think that windows is useable, you must not use it much.  Windows
version of "crash protection" is wearing a helmet while computing.  The arir
(air) bag is an expensive add-on.
Brett


Countersteering is a method for *leaning* the bike.  Another method is
leaning.  Once leaned, the bike turns all by itself.


Insomnia is a known, but relatively infrequent, side-effect of
diphenhydramine.

For most people, this does not occur.  On the other hand, most people
can build up a tolerance to an antihistamine with extended use.
(Allergy sufferers are often switched from one antihistamine to
another to avoid this.)

--
Steven Litvintchouk
MITRE Corporation
202 Burlington Road
Bedford, MA  01730-1420


hello all- i have a problem with my micro solutions backpack- sometimes
it works, sometimes it doesnt.  i will either start a backup, or
start a tape format, and at about 20 percent i get an error either saying
the tape is bad or the backup/format has aborted for an unknown reason.
if i turn everything off and wait a half hour it works fine.  is it
because the tape backup is too warm?  has anyone had similar experiences?


Koresh & some of his followers were tried and found *innocent* of
all charges following that shootout.  Were you unaware of this or
did you purposly leave out this fact?


Believe it or not, we DO have phone books, but the current information does
not include an area code for Edmonton Alberta.

I would not be so hostile towards others for asking simple questions...

"I would rather appear stupid than open my moutha nd remove all doubt."
							-Mark Twain

--
	"If you assult someone you get 5 years--In hockey, 5 minutes.
			Is this a great sport or what?!"


Well, just got all the parts replaced that needed replced
(sprokets+chain) and notice that engine still taps like it did before.
All our local 'experts' say it's the tappits that need some adjusting so
I am soon to attempt that.  I would like any advice anyone had.  I do
not have a shop manual but have read about the procedure in Chiltons and
in a few other places.  Is there anything I need to be particularaly
carful of?  Any problems anyone else has encountered?

I ride a 1981 Yamaha Exciter 250cc (stop laughing, it's tiny, but it's
shiny)


I purchased a used 1988 Nissan 300ZX (non-turbo) last year.  I had a
question on gear/rpm ratios.  Right now in 5th @65mph I'm at
2600-2700 rpms.  @70mph I'm at about 2900rpms.  Is this about the
norm?  I'm an auto neophyte so I'm just wondering if these are
the proper ranges?  Somehow the rpm figures seem high.  A friend of mine
just told me he can hit 60mph in 3rd on his 88 Chevy Beretta (2.8l V6.)
Also, anyone know the top speed attainable (@redline???) for this model Z?
(Not that I would try it but it would be an interesting factoid. :)

				Thanx!
					Derek


BOSTON (0) AT SEATTLE (7)

 BOSTON          AB  R  H BI  SEATTLE         AB  R  H BI
 RILES 2B         3  0  0  0  FELDER LF        4  0  1  1
 QUINTANA RF      2  0  0  0  COTTO DH         3  0  0  0
 GREENWELL LF     3  0  0  0  SASSER PH        1  0  0  0
 DAWSON DH        3  0  0  0  GRIFFEY JR CF    4  0  0  0
 M VAUGHN 1B      3  0  0  0  BUHNER RF        3  1  0  0
 CALDERON CF      3  0  0  0  BOONE 2B         4  2  3  2
 COOPER 3B        3  0  0  0  T MARTINEZ 1B    3  1  1  0
 JOHN VALENTIN SS 3  0  0  0  BLOWERS 3B       4  1  2  1
 PENA C           3  0  0  0  VALLE C          4  1  2  2
                              VIZQUEL SS       4  1  2  0
 TOTALS          26  0  0  0  TOTALS          34  7 11  6


Absolute nonsense.  The decision that was made was Pocklington's.  He chose
20 mill over Gretzky.  If Gretzky wasn't upset about not being able to win
a cup in LA then I submit that he wasn't worth the 20 mill.

How do you know what he thinks (or thought)?  The only "thought" that I
can see that you have revealed is your own.  You don't like Gretzky.
Big deal.

The real purpose of diving is not merely an attempt to draw a penalty.  What
the player is trying to do is make the checkers keep their distance so the
ref won't be fooled.  I can't imagine why anyone would expect someone like
Lemieux to change his game.  Why don't you pick on 1 dimensional over-rated
type like Hull and Salami.

--


agencies
your
dictionary

I don't recall saying Baptists do any of that.  Though I suppose some do.  And
none of them are listed in the dictionary as characteristics of a cult.  My
mother stockpiled Campbells soup when it was on sale.

You are an intolerent, foul-mouthed human.  You sound like you are ready to
join the KKK or neo-nazis, with a narrow mind like yours.

Far from it, I defend the rights of anyone to be different under our
constitution, which was formed in part to protect religious cults which had
been persecuted in England before migrating here to be free.  You are the one
endangering our constitution.

Jim
--
jmd@handheld.com


I had one and on three different motherboards it didn't work with NT and
in some cases DOS. I sent mine back, but it is my understanding that
on some systems such as Micronics motherboards it is necessary to
shut off the internal cache on the 486 to have it work.

I've yet to hear from someone running a 34F on any motherboard with
NT without shutting off the cache.

If you get one my advise it to be very sure you can return it first.


This is the case in Britain, according to the head of the computer crime
unit here when I interviewed him a couple of months ago.

wg


And most definitely read it in conjunction with Heinlein's _Starship
Trooper_.  The two books are radically different viewpoints of the
same basic premises.  I've even heard tell of English classes built
around this.

--
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden


Can anybody send me Pinouts of Real Time Clock IC of OKI Semiconductors,
58321. I wish to know if any RTC IC of OKI has an inbuilt crystal rather
than an external 32.768KHz crystal.
Thanks in advance.
Nilesh Parikh
nilesh@shakti.ncst.ernet.in


I have the same problem with my '90 probe.  The water is definitely not comming
up from the rubber stoppered hole beneath the spare.  I have to remove the
rubber stopper to drain the water.  Seems like a common problem with probe.


Didn't expect to find you in the Devil's role, Stephen, but these are
the times that try men's souls.
Nine months, as I understand it.  No doubt this accounts for a
significant amount of the time as government efficiency in spending
our tax dollars would certainly seek its absolute minimum in such
an event.  But my gut instinct says there is more at hand.  It took
some careful preplanning to demonize D.K. to such an extent.  The
attack meshes well with more restrictive gun control legislation
that seems to be the agenda of the day.  It also fits a pattern of
increased government interference in personal religious beliefs.
[Randy Weaver is now on trial].

No quarrel here.  The BIG BANG theory is always apt at appropriation
time.  They just don't have to possess a single motive.

I certainly think publication of the warrant undermines the government's
case since it makes no claims of illegal action.  Therefore the federal
judge had reason to seal it.  But I am reminded of Senator Frank Church's
remark that "secrecy is the trademark of a totalitarian government."
There is rarely sufficient motive to seal a warrant in a nation of
free people.

How can I argue with irrefutable logic?  I have long suspected that
the government has become a mindless machine and now you go and
confirm my worst fears!  Has it become a BEAST that is programmed
simply to say "Kiss my toe and you get your piece of the pie?"
I suspect bugs in the program arise when agents or those who love
this critter have independent thoughts.

And watching Terminator II.

Yes, 186 seeds for a new Republic.  And 86 for...?
    Rev. 11:10...And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice
		over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one
		to another; because these two prophets tormented them
		that dwelt on the earth.

Stephen, have you sensed that some have been rejoicing lately....?


:Being a chronic HBsAg carrier does not necessarily mean the patient has chronic
:persistent anything. Persons who are chronic carriers may have no clinical,
:biochemical, or histologic evidence of liver disease, or they may have chronic
:persistent hepatitis, chronic active hepatitis, cirrhosis, or hepatocellular
:carcinoma.
:
:Most cases of chronic persistent hepatitis (CPH) are probably the result of
:a viral infection, although in a good number of cases the cause cannot be
:determined. The diagnosis of CPH is made on the basis of liver biopsy. It
:consists of findings of portal inflammation, an intact periportal limiting
:plate, and on occasion isolated foci of intralobular necrosis. But in contrast
:to chronic active hepatitis (CAH) there is no periportal inflammation,
:bridging necrosis, or fibrosis.
:
:CPH has, indeed, an excellent prognosis. If I had to choose between CAH and
:CPH there is no question I would also choose CPH. However, as David pointed
:out, the distinction between the two is not as neat as some of us would have
:it. The histology can sometimes be pretty equivocal, with biopsies showing
:areas compatible with both CPH and CAH. Maybe it is a sampling problem. Maybe
:it is a continuum. I don't know.

Darn.  Just when I think I understand something someone who knows the
pathology has to burst my bubble :-(  We'd better not start talking about
glomerular diseases, then I'll really get depressed.

Seriously though, I wonder how someone with CPH would end up getting a
biopsy in the first place?  My understanding (and feel free to correct me)
is that the enzymes are at worst mildly elevated, with overall normal
hepatic function.  I would think that the only clue might be a history of
prior HepB infection and a positive HepB-sAg.  Or is it indeed on a
continuum with CAH, and the distinction merely one of pathology and
prognosis, but otherwise identical clinical features?


  [stuff deleted]

You should be clear in your mind what your goal is. Two possible goals
are (1) maximizing you income from your program, and (2) minimizing
the number of illegal copies which get created. Accomplishing (2)
doesn't usually accomplish (1).

Most vendors have concluded that copy protection reduces the number of
normal legitimate sales by far more than it increase sales by virtue
of changing 'copiers' to 'purchasers', and hence merely reduces
revenue.  Most legitimate buyers nowadays (including me) have had bad
experiences with copy protected products (e.g., hard to make a
legitimate backup, incompatabilties when new system on system upgrade,
etc.), and they won't touch them with a ten foot pole.


Ah-ha!  I'm not alone at last!  Which Sony do you have??  I have a
27"SXR (pre-XBR series, circa 1987).  That damn thing used to
make noise like a mad-man.  I had/have 2 separate problems...one being the
flyback, the other was the assembly where the windings of the yoke
came together.

First:  I found by poking around the windings on that assembly,
the thing would make noise.  I guess that there was enough of a potential
in that assembly to leak, so I sprayed it with a dielectric insulation
spray--I think it was urethane or acyrilic.  That fixed it.

Second:  Flyback...for the life of me, I can't isolate this one.  If I
leave the cover off, the TV will be quiet.  If I put the cover back on,
and let it heat up, it'll start to whine--kinda hard to solve with the
cover on!! :-(

A friend of mine who used to fix TV's says there might be a pin-hole
leak somewhere on the flyback.  Usually it's surrounded by a bunch of
black dust/dirt.

I hope this is a start...if you find something out, let me know!


Anybody has any information about the number of the people have been killed
by Israel  during these 44 HAPPY YEAR?


<
<   Some countries have laws about importing crypto gear--I believe the U.S.
<   does. Without a license the above scheme won't work (at least not legally)
<   in such countries, including at least France and the U.S.
<
<   David
<
<BZZT!
<
<Wrong.  The US does NOT have crypto import laws.

I'd not be so sure about that:

Are there any MUNITIONS import laws, and could those be used against
importation of crypto hardware/software as well as firearms?

Importing so-called 'assault weapons' for use by commoners come to mind....

NOTE - talk.politics.guns added to Newsgroups for possible feedback...


Dennis.

	WE agree a lot ,  it's just we don't both post when we agree
on something.  And when we disagree, it tends to be a lot more
noticeable.;-)


A typical Nazi/racist Armenian of 'ASALA/SDPA/ARF'. Can it be that
criminal/Nazi Armenians of ASALA/SDPA/ARF hate Muslims for ideological
reasons regardless of what they do? Between 1914 and 1920, your criminal
Armenian grandparents committed unheard-of crimes, resorted to all
conceivable methods of despotism, organized massacres, poured petrol
over babies and burned them, raped women and girls in front of their
parents who were bound hand and foot, took girls from their mothers
and fathers and appropriated personal property and real estate. And
today, they put Azeris in the most unbearable conditions any other
nation had ever known in history.

Source: The Times, 2 March 1992

CORPSES LITTER HILLS IN KARABAKH

ANATOL LIEVEN COMES UNDER FIRE WHILE FLYING WITH AZERBAIJANI FORCES
TO INVESTIGATE THE MASS KILLINGS OF REFUGEES BY ARMENIAN TROOPS...

As we swooped low over the snow-covered hills of Nagorno-Karabagh we saw
the scattered corpses. Apparently, the refugees had been shot down as
they ran. An Azerbaijani film of the places we flew over, shown to
journalists afterwards, showed DOZENS OF CORPSES lying in various parts
of the hills.

The Azerbaijanis claim that AS MANY AS 1000 have died in a MASS KILLING
of AZERBAIJANIS fleeing from the town of Khodjaly, seized by Armenians
last week. A further 4,000 are believed to be wounded, frozen to death
or missing...

Seven of us squatted in the cabin of an Azerbaijani M24 attack helicopter
as we flew to investigate the claims of the mass killings. Suddenly there
was a thump against the underside of the aircraft, a red flash of tracer
ripped past the starboard wing, and the helicopter rocked sharply. We
swung round, and there was a deafening burst of fire from the cannon
under our wing as the helicopter crew returned fire.

We had been fired on from an Armenian anti-aircraft post. We swung round
again, tipped to starboard and appeared to dive straight down into a
valley. The brown earth swooped around our heads, the helicopter swung
round again and followed the contours of the ground. Our cannon fired
repeated blasts.

Later it emerged that a civilian helicopter that we had been escorting
had landed successfully at Nakhichevanik in the east of the disputed
enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh, to pick up some of the dead. We had, in
fact, been attacked both by ground fire and by an Armenian helicopter.
I had seen the Armenian helicopter intermittently through the window,
its cannons firing, but had thought - mistakenly - that it was on
"our side". Our group of Western journalists had embarked on a
search-and-rescue flight that had become a combat mission.

Our flight consisted of the civilian passenger helicopter and two
M24 Soviet attack helicopters in the Azerbaijani service, nicknamed
flying crocodiles for their armour. Our party was in the second
crocodile. The civilian helicopter's job was to land in the mountains
and pick up bodies at sites of the mass killings. The attack helicopters
were there to give covering fire if necessary.

The operation showed a striking sign of the disintegration of the Soviet
armed forces because our pilot was a Russian officer. An Azerbaijani
official told us that there were now five former Soviet military
helicopters -and their pilots- fighting for Azerbaijan. "They have
signed contracts to fly for us," he said. The helicopter we engaged
in combat was most probably flown by a brother-officer of our Russian
pilot, but fighting for the Armenians.

We had taken off just before 5pm on Saturday from Agdam airfield, an
heated for the Armenian-controlled mountains of Karabakh, a sheer
white wall in the distance. The civilian helicopter picked up four
corpses, and it was during this and a previous mission that an
Azerbaijani cameraman filmed the several the several dozen bodies
on the hillsides. We then took off again in a hurry and speed back
towards Azerbaijani lines. Azerbaijani gunners on the last hill before
the plain - and safety - gazed up at us as we passed.

Back at the airfield in Agdam, we took a look the bodies the
civilian helicopter had picked up. Two old men a small girl were
covered with blood, their limbs contorted by the cold and rigor
mortis. They had been shot.

What did our Russian pilot think of the tragedy, our close shave,
and the war in Nagorno-Karabakh? He gave us CHEERFUL GRIN, POLITELY
DECLINED TO ANSWER QUES TIONS, AND MARCHED OFF TO HIS DINNER.

Serdar Argic


I just put a 33MHz 040 CPU into my Centris 610.  Now I have a math coprocessor,
but is it possible to speed up the Centris to run at either 25MHz or 33MHz??

I didn't see any oscillators on the motherboard like the ones on the IIsi's
motherboard!  Where is the oscillator for the Centris?

Any ideas?

Thanks


Test


I've built xcoral on my system (SunOS 4.1.3, X11R5, Motif 1.2, OW 3.0)
and it builds fine, but when I run it, any child windows that xcoral
opens,
1) locks the mouse into the window area
2) doesn't accept any input from the mouse.

Needless to say, this is a pain in the ass, as I have to go find an
empty terminal to login and kill xcoral.

Is this a problem with OpenWindows or Motif?  Is there a patch?
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The following comics are for auction.  The highest bid takes them!  New
stuff added!  (Oooooh!  The Mr. T. premium comic!)

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Aliens 1 (1st app Aliens in comics, 1st prnt, May 1988)	$20.00/KrisM./THREE

Amazing Spider-Man 136 (Intro new Green Goblin)         $20.00

Amazing Spider-Man 238 (1st appearance Hobgoblin)	$50.00

Archer and Armstrong 1 (Frank Miller/Smith/Layton)	$ 7.50

Avengers 263 (1st appearance X-factor)                  $ 3.50

Bloodshot 1 (Chromium cover, BWSmith Cover/Poster)	$ 5.00/SamE/ONCE

Daredevil 158 (Frank Miller art begins)                 $35.00

Dark Horse Presents 1 (1st app Concrete, 1st printing)	$ 7.50

Detective 657 (Azrael appears, Intro Cypher)		$ 5.00

Harbinger 10 (1st appearance H.A.R.D. Corps)		$ 7.00/B.Matthey/SOLD

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Incredible Hulk 324 (1st app Grey Hulk since #1 1962)	$ 7.00

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I have thousands and thousands of other comics, so please let me know what
you've been looking for, and maybe I can help.  Some titles I have posted
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==== BEGIN REPOST ====

IBM, Apple, Motorola Ready to Unwrap PowerPC 601 Processor

The wraps will come off the PowerPC 601 processor this week, as Motorola
Corp., IBM, and Apple Computer Inc. detail the results of their yearlong
effort. This first in a series of PowerPC processors will be a 32-bit
processor with a 64-bit memory interface, much like Intel Corp.'s
Pentium, with the capability of performing as many as three instructions
per clock cycle, according to sources familiar with the chip. Motorola
is expected to release the chip in volume by year end in two
configurations, running at 50 and 66 MHz with performance of 40 and 50
SPECint89 marks, respectively, sources said. Floating-point performance
for the 3.6-volt processors will be even better, as their SPECfp89
performance will be 60 and 80, respectively. The 601, a scaled-down
version of the Power 220 chip developed by IBM for its RS/6000
workstations, will also include a 32K single buffered cache on the chip
with protocols to support Motorola's 64-bit multiprocessor 88110 bus
built in. The chip, which is being designed initially to support the
Micro Channel Architecture, is bus independent, so vendors could develop
PowerPC- based systems using a number of different architectures,
including ISA, EISA, or Sun Microsystems Inc.'s S-bus design, one source
noted.

According to sources familiar with the development effort, Motorola has
been extremely successful in developing the PowerPC as an inexpensive
architecture, despite a complex design made up of more than 2.8 million
transistors using a 0.6-micron technology. Initial chips are expected to
be priced from $300 to $400 -- only slightly higher than Intel Corp.'s
486 processors -- but could be sold profitably for less than $100, one
source said.


A long time back (months), I think a similar question was asked....

A suggestion, in addition to Ed's list, was to put your windward knee out
away from the bike.

I tried it, and it seems to help, actually.


I knew when I posted that I was going to get into trouble. Now I suppose I
have to give /5 wheelie demos at the Spring Fling or something.

But you're right, John, it is a chain drive model. I think it goes around
the camshaft and up over the rocker arms or something. Stolen from an early
Spagthorpe design, according to urban legend.


Look, folks, I don't know what happened in Waco.  I do not claim the BDs are
angels, I never did.  Koresh may very well be the devil incarnate.  I just
don't know.  But I do know that I must question any single source of
information, such as we have here.  And I must question even harder given that
it is single source at the insistance of that very government.  What ever else
happened at WACO, that is perhaps the biggest evil done.  And even more so in
light of the discrepencies turning up between the federal officials and the
state officials.

But what I really don't understand is the hoards of devoted government
worshipers who believe the government could not possibly do any wrong.  They
are fanatic to the point of making things up, such as Brent's microwave oven
disclaim of the BD's using fire for food heating.

I am hard pressed to see any real difference between the claimed power Koresh
held over the BDs, and the demonstrated power the government holds over those
rapid apologists.

Jim
--
jmd@handheld.com


Considering the above, and some postings about Diamond's bad attitute
towars customers, I ordered and ActixGE+ VLB 2M card. It will arive
these days.

--
Penio Penev  x7423 (212)327-7423 (w) Internet: penev@venezia.rockefeller.edu


  When the bugs are splatting on the side of my helmet instead
  of the faceshield.  When semis are on their side in the downwind
  ditch.  When I can't see the road for all the tumbleweeds rolling
  past.  When the airborne sand/gravel is sandblasting my paint job.
  When all of the above is happening at once in the middle of Wonderful
  Wyldoming.

  Well, it *WAS* gusting to 87 mph.

  Cheers,
  VLJ


Serial cables:

There are only three output signals: TD, DTR, and RTS.
There are five inputs signals: RD, DSR, DCD, CTS, and RI.

There are many differnt null modem requiremts as dictated by the software.
The IBM BIOS requires asserts DTR and RTS and then waits for both DSR and
CTS before sending.  When a BIOS recieve call is made, it asserts DTR and
waits for DSR to become true (times out after a while and returns with an
error if DSR never becomes true).  It requires CTS to be true for sending
AND recieving.  Most communications packages bypass this and replace it
with their own protocol.  The key is that each comm. package could very
well have different requirements.

My favorite cable works in many cases: short RTS to CTS at each end, but
also run RTS through to DCD at the opposite end.  TD runs through to RD
and DTR runs through to DSR from both DTE's and of course SG goes through
to SG.

I have never had trouble with this null modem even though I have used it
with a comm. package that was expecting RTS to go to CTS instead of DCD.
The advantage of this cable is that it also works with the IBM BIOS.


There has been a long running discussion over changing the Startup
logo for Windows for a few weeks here. While all the COPY methods are
great & haven't seen any mention of a program that will do it for
you.....

Well... I found one on CICA called winlogo (Can't remember where
unfortuantely), and it seems to work real well... even comes with a
couple example .RLE files.

What I'd really like though is a way to create .RLE files myself,
specifically the RLE4 format mentioned in the winlogo readme file. Can
anyone point me in the direction of such a beast with a REAL directory
path ?? All the ones I've seen mentioned didn't pan out.....


My original post:

Aha, I think I found the problem and it isn't dirt!  Another guy here was
using a different kind of mouse and was using 640x400x16 video driver (the
default VGA for Windows).  He has an S3 LocalBus card like I do and when I
loaded the S3 video driver in Windows for him, his mouse became jumpy too.
Seems like it is the S3 driver!  Is there any newer one than version 1.4
that would solve this problem?  It is really bad.  I have to use the
keyboard instead sometimes!  The s3-w31.zip on cica is version 1.4 (which is
the same version that came with my card).

---
Sean Eckton
Computer Support Representative
College of Fine Arts and Communications

D-406 HFAC
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT  84602
(801)378-3292


1993 World Championships in Germany:
 ====================================

 Group A results:

 SWEDEN - SWITZERLAND  4-6 (0-3,3-1,1-2)

 1st: SWI 0-1 Manuele Celio 1                                         3:21
      SWI 0-2 Patrick Howald 1                                       11:37
      SWI 0-3 Patrick Howald 2   (Sven Leuenberger)                  16:00
 2nd: SWE 1-3 Peter Andersson 1  (Michael Nylander)                   2:47 (pp)
      SWI 1-4 Roman Waeger 1     (Martin Rauch,Sven Leuenberger)      8:53 (pp)
      SWE 2-4 Jonas Bergqvist 3  (Markus Naslund)                     9:08
      SWE 3-4 Jan Larsson 1      (Patrik Juhlin)                     18:50
 3rd: SWE 4-4 Mikael Renberg 2   (Thomas Rundqvist,Peter Andersson)   7:49
      SWI 4-5 Roman Waeger 2                                          9:07
      SWI 4-6 Felix Hollenstein 1 (Sven Leuenberger,Thomas Vrabec)   11:29

              Shots on goal:   Penalties:   Attendance:   Referee:
 Sweden        5 20 18 - 43    4*2min       6,000         Rob Hearn, USA
 Switzerland  10  6  7 - 23    5*2min

 Switzerland beat Sweden in a WC for the first time since 1950, and the Swiss
 now have a small chance of reaching the quarterfinals (if Austria beats
 Italy tonight).

 The Swiss took the lead after Hakan Ahlund made an incredibly stupid drop
 pass at his own blue line, and Celio came in alone with Soderstrom and beat
 Tommy to the stick side. The Swedes continued to make mistakes as Howald
 was allowed to skate in between the Swedish D and put the puck past Tommy
 to make it 0-2. 0-3 was a nice one, Howald entered the Swedish zone, slammed
 on the breaks, and his shot went in by Tommy's far post. One of the lousiest
 periods I've seen Sweden play this year.
 Second period saw a new Swedish team, and the Swiss had to ice the puck many
 times. On a pp, Nylander skated in from the boards, Pavoni made the initial
 save, but Peter Andersson scored on the rebound.  Then a power play goal
 from the Swiss, a slap shot from the blue line hit two players on the way
 to the goal and past Soderstrom also. Jonas Bergqvist made it 2-4 after a
 nice pass from Naslund behind the goal. Jan Larsson reduced the lead to 3-4
 just before the end of 2nd period, on a pp skated in unattacked in front of
 the goal, and put the puck through Pavoni's 5-hole.
 Third period, Sweden equalized on a slap shot from Renberg that trickled
 through Pavoni's 5-hole. Then, another defensive mistake by the Swedes,
 Waeger was allowed to skate around the Swedish goal unattacked and from close
 range could make it 4-5. Hollenstein then scored 4-6 on a 2-on-1 break away,
 and put it top shelf with no chance for Soderstrom.

 Switzerland:

 Goaltender:  20 Reto Pavoni  (28 Renatio Tosio)
 Defense:     26 Rick Tschumi, 2 Martin Steinegger
              16 Sven Leuenberger, 5 Martin Rauch
               7 Sandro Bertaggia, 17 Patrick Sutter
              31 Samuel Balmer
 Forwards:    22 Alfred Luthi, 11 Felix Hollenstein, 25 Roman Waeger
              23 Gil Montandon, 12 Roberto Triulzi, 10 Patrick Howald
              35 Christian Weber, 18 Andreas Ton, 24 Joerg Eberle
              15 Bruno Erni, 13 Thomas Vrabec, 29 Manuele Celio

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

 RUSSIA - CANADA  1-3 (0-2,1-1,0-0)

 1st: CAN 0-1 Kevin Dineen 1     (Garry Galley)                       4:28
      CAN 0-2 Paul Kariya 2      (Eric Lindros)                      12:20 (pp)
 2nd: CAN 0-3 Eric Lindros 10    (Paul Kariya,Shayne Corson)          9:40
      RUS 1-3 Valeri Karpov 2    (?)                                 16:24
 3rd:

 Penalties: RUS 2*2min 1*5min, CAN 5*2min
 Referee: Anton Danko, Czech republic
 Attendance: 8,600

 Russia probably made their best game of the tourney, but yet there wasn't
 enough to win against the effective Canadians.

 Galley took a slap shot that found Dineen by the far post, and Dineen just
 deflected the puck past Trefilov in the Russian goal. Then a power play
 goal, after a couple of deflections Eric Lindros found Kariya alone by the
 far post, and Kariya put the puck high over a sliding Trefilov.
 Russia won the shots in the first period 12-5, and they had the most of
 the scoring opportunities, but they just couldn't score.
 Second period saw Lindros scoring his 10th (!!) goal of the WC. Kariya
 entered the Russian zone, slammed on the break to get past his defenseman,
 then made a nice pass to Corson who just got the stick on the puck to
 deflect it to Lindros who one-timed the puck.
 The Russians then finally got their goal, Karpov broke in from the side
 and made a slap shot in Tugnutt's top right hand corner.

 Player of the game in Canada was voted Paul Kariya, and for Russia Valeri
 Karpov. I agree, the difference in this game was Lindros and Kariya, and
 in part also Tugnutt. Kariya had a far better game now than vs the Swedes,
 and he was very impressive. Kariya got the place in the line with Lindros
 after Mike Gartner went out with a rib-injury early in the first period.

 Lindros, BTW, lead the point scoring with 14 pts (9+5) before this game,
 7 pts ahead of the next player! i.e. double as much as the next player
 (among those Kariya with 1+6). Amazing!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 Group B results:

 FINLAND - CZECH REPUBLIC  1-3 (0-0,1-1,0-2)

 1st:
 2nd: CZE 0-1  Petr Hrbek 2           11:04
      FIN 1-1  Mika Alatalo 1         17:51
 3rd: CZE 1-2  Jiri Dolezal 3          5:04
      CZE 1-3  Martin Hostak 2        19:45 (en)

 Penalties: FIN 8*2min, CZE 9*2min
 Referee: Vincent Moreno, Switzerland
 Attendance: 4,300

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

 GERMANY - USA  6-3 (5-0,0-0,1-3)

 1st: GER 1-0  Raimond Hilger 2        7:12
      GER 2-0  Gerd Truntschka 3      11:16
      GER 3-0  Ernst Kopf 3           11:55
      GER 4-0  Michael Rumrich 3      16:06
      GER 5-0  Benoit Doucet 1        18:45
 2nd:
 3rd: USA 5-1  Derek Plante 1          4:06
      GER 6-1  Dieter Hegen 5          6:57
      USA 6-2  Craig Johnson 1         7:30
      USA 6-3  Rob Gaudreau 3         13:07

 Penalties: GER 7*2min, USA 10*2min
 Referee: Valeri Bokarev, Russia
 Attendance: 11,000


Does anyone know of any studies done on the long-term health effects of a
man's vasectomy on his female partner?

I've seen plenty of study results about vasectomy's effects on men's health,
but what about women?

For example, might the wife of a vasectomized man become more at risk for,
say, cervical cancer?  Adverse effects from sperm antibodies?  Changes in the
vagina's pH?  Yeast or bacterial infections?

Outside of study results, how about informed speculation?

Thanks in advance for your help!


Arthur Melnick posts an interesting first-hand message about his NEA
algorithm. Though I have no reason to disbelieve anything he says, I want to
clarify one point:

He says he has no connection with the NSA. If he was part of an "NSA plot",
of course he'd say that.

Now I don't think he is. But the level of some discussion here is of that
sort, and very quickly we reach the point where it's impossible to continue
rationally discussing some issues.

"I am not a crook"

"Well, if you were, of course you'd say that"

or the ever popular favorite:

"Please prove the following negative."

I don't know what to do with such messages, so I have taken to ignoring
them.

Comments?

David


  Hmm your CD-Rom program must be using some oddball VGA modes.

  I think they are trying to get it out by the end of this month, when
it is released though it'll be in limited quantities, I think they
have quite a back order right now (the 2 megs version will come out
a bit later).

  Since you have a Viewsonic 17 (I think it has a 78khz horizontal
frequency right?), you're gonna love the 2 megs version.  It can
do 1280x1024x256 at 75Hz, 1152x900x256 at 80Hz, 1024x768x256 at 90Hz(!),
1024x768x65536 at 75Hz.  It can also do 640x480x16 mil. and
800x600x16 bit at 90Hz, too bad I don't have such a high bandwidth
monitor like yours ;) ;) (most of those modes need a 78khz monitor,
otherwise you'll have to use a lower refresh rate)

  If you want more info. about the coming Graphite VL, you should
go to the IBM hardware section on Compuserve (IBMHW), in the
video sig.  There're several Hercules reps there that are very
helpful.


I'm afriad that's not true.  The monitor problem seems to occur whenever
the 15" Mag monitor is put into 1024x768 mode.  I'm running OS/2 at 1024 and
the same symptoms appear.

It does not seem like a video card problem as the Cirrus Logic 5426 chip and
the ATI GUP seem to cause these problems... two VERY  different cards.


How about the discussion of the STS Tether experiment.  Ran forward,
it would suck energy from the Earth's magnetic field, while trivially
slowing the Shuttle.  It could also have run backward -- if they ran
electricity through the tether the other way, it would have trivially
propelled the Shuttle faster.

But an even better example comes to mind.  There's this electronics guy,
someone like Craig Anderton or Don Lancaster.  Ten years ago he wrote about
an invention of his.  He could take a light-detector, run current through
it at about a hundred times its rating, and it would glow.  He got legal
rights to this design of a combination "fiber optic emitter/receiver".  This
turned out to be the basic unit of ATT's  (I think) plan to bring Brazil's
communications system into the 21st century.  (The article was mostly about
his legal wranglings with the company that eventually got him well-compensated
for his invention.)


anyone else experiencing a similar problem?

This concerns the clutch on a 92 Honda Accord 5 speed. When the clutch
is first used in the morning, about the first 4 miles of shifting, there
is a significant amount of clutch chatter until things warm up.  Then the
clutch shifts smoothly.  This chatter started when I moved to the San
Francisco Bay area from a low-humidity environment.  The dealer stated
that this is known to happen since Honda changed from an asbestos to
non-asbestos clutch material.  No remedy!! Seems that moisture on clutch
surface causes slipping until the moisture evaporates.


 Marcus Thuresson had 6 goals, 10 assists, 16 points and 22 PIM in 31 games
 this season for Leksand in the Swedish elite league. This was only 10th
 in point scoring for Leksand.

 Marcus (born May 31 1971, Ht 185 cm, Wt 85 kg) is relatively young so he
 might still start producing, but I think the Sharks may have done a bad
 trade here.

 Staffan


He'll slam Clinton for anything at all on the air.  I just do not
understand why he remains so popular.  He'll take a piece of video of
Clinton walking along; find a frame in which Clinton wrinkles his
nose, say; freeze on it and blow it up full screen; and then rant for
five minutes on how no one could possibly trust someone with such a
face and such beady greedy little eyes.  I've seen this on his TV show
(it was around the time of the inauguration).  Can anyone call this
stuff legitimate (I hate to say "informed") commentary?  How can
anyone with half a brain in his or her head[1] continue to watch
it[2]?

The American TV-watching (and I guess radio-listening) public never
ceases to amaze me.

	/J

[1] Oops, have I just inadvertently answered my own question?

[2] I myself only see it when I run across it every couple months when
    channel-surfing late at night; the longest I've been able to stand
    him was about 10 minutes.

(Apologies for stripping the alt.fan.rush groups from the Newsgroups
line; the software here apparently rejects anything with groups we
don't carry, and we don't carry those.  Also I removed sci.crypt from
followups.)


In <May.13.02.31.16.1993.1569@geneva.rutgers.edu> djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu

I'm afraid I see that question as very tendentious.  Try rephrasing it:

	What's more important to Christians?  Love of God or love
	of other human beings?

to which of course the only conceivable answer is that the one is like
the other.  I am *deeply* suspicious of any "flavor" of Christianity
which would elevate one clause of the Great Commandment to a "priority"
over the other such as to claim a conflict.  True, we are told to let
the dead bury the dead, to "hate" family rather than let it keep us from
following Christ.  But the dichotomy here is not one between love of our
fellows and love of God, but of allowing *social* constructs to blind us
to the presense of God.  It is particularly satanic to twist love of God
in such a manner as to become an excuse to treat others as on a different
level than the one who is so caught up in "love" of God.

The trouble comes in the relation of human love and human sex.  Yes, it
has sometimes been the case that the Church has "taught" that all sex
was nasty, evil, sinful stuff.  But when man and wife leave their parental
homes to become helpmates, living in one flesh, it is the sex that is the
vehicle of becoming "one flesh" (if you doubt me, read St. Paul on what
is wrong with frequenting prostitutes :-)).  Less provocatively, what I
mean is just this: sexual bonding is a deeply founded aspect of our social
interaction, and in particular is the foundation of the institution of
marriage, so that unlike with many mammals, human males remain with and
foster the children they beget and support their children's mothers.
This is the schema behind Genesis 2:18-24 (and behind Jesus' citation of
that passage.)

	[ I observe, by the way, that not all human males in fact do as
	  I have just described; but another thing that characterizes
	  human societies is our raising of *non*begotten children, not
	  only orphans and adoptees and the like, but products of the
	  quite common infidelities of humans to their spouses. We are
	  in this not unique in the animal world, but the full extent of
	  social consequences and implications is most intricate for us. ]

Yes, of course it sometimes goes "wrong" -- like all else we do, it is
infected with sin, and you find married "couples" where there is no bond,
and people so deliriously addicted to the initial stages of sexual bond
formation (the "infatuation", "falling in love" phase) that they break
any forming bond in order to keep stepping over the threshold of the deep
unity God has prepared for us, and stepping back out again right away.
Satan may indeed *use* sex as a very handy tool to corrupt human love --
but in the Edenic creation, that is not its nature, and with God's grace
under the power of Christ to make all things new it need not be a problem
for Christians (though we must be vigilant, even in Christ, as the devil
is watchful, prowling around like a roaring lion seeking someone to devour.)

So, returning to the original question, what is more important to STRAIGHT
Christians?  Sex, or Christianity?  Paul, clearly, tended to think that
sex was at best a distraction from Christianity (though to be charitable
to him, his context was in expectation of immediate parousia, so that the
hard TASKS of a married union -- the lifelong building and adaptation to
each other -- seemed somehow to undercut the "proper" preparation for an
immediate eschaton.  Since we *do not* know the hour of return, we should
act *both* with instant readiness for that *and* with a commitiment to our
mates that proposes a long lifetime together.  And telling people *not* to
bond in such a perspective strikes me as crippling us in the second clause
of the the commandment to love.  I would claim that only a very few saints
have the CAPACITY to deeply love (without sexual tinges or complication,
mind you) their fellow human beings unless they have had a deeply spiritual
life in married union growing together as one flesh -- and that means in
the type case, with a persistent and continued sexual relationship.  We
are human, and little good comes of trying to "mortify the flesh" to the
point of pretending to be otherwise, pretending NOT to be sexual beings.

It depends entirely on context.  If that context is major hypocrisy
on the part of those who find us "stumbling blocks" I am much less of
a mind to efface myself so that they can pontificate about MY sins.

There are some people for whom a life of celibacy is a spritual gift,
and maybe even a victory against a to-them troubling sexual urge that
seems to them to lead only to sin.  Nothing I say should ever be read
as demeaning such a gift.  Nor the even rarer gift of love for all our
conspecifics, and indeed for all God's creation, that can develop to
the full *without* the tutoring of a spousal/helpmate marriage founded
in sex.  But there is a difference between spiritual gifts and penance;
telling people that they HAVE to have a particular gift (or else? what?)
is fraught with manipulation and disregard of the differences of our
spiritual endowments from God.  To one person is given the gift of
speaking in toungues, to another intepretation of toungues; to yet
another prophecy; and to still another teaching.  The notion that some
*particular* gift is required of *all* is one of the earliest heresies.


A religion is a cult which if those in power belong to it.

Actually, they're all bull shit.


Hello

	I am the proud new owner of a MAC 512K.  Upon power-up and insertion
	of the sytem disk, I get SAD MAC code 0F0064.  Can anyone give me a
	clue to what this means?

	Thanks.


I am wanting to upgrade from a 386SX-25, to a 486DX-33, and are looking at a
cheap quote from someone offering me a 486DX-33 motherboard, with no ram in
it.  (I will probably sell my old m-board off somewhere)
Now, I have 4 meg of RAM in my 386, which consists of

4 x 9 module 1024KB simms, running at 70 nanoseconds.
    ^^^^^^^^                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Would I encounter problems with the pointed out areas, by throwing these from
one computer to the other?


She's published two books about her manic-depressive illness:

_Call Me Anna: the Autobiography of Patty Duke_, Patty Duke and
Kenneth Turan, Bantam Books 1987

and

_A Brilliant Madness:  Living with Manic-Depressive Illness_, Patty
Duke and Gloria Hochman, Bantam Books 1992


Several replies to my post have said that I should get to know
Christian homosexuals before judging them.  I maintain that I was not
judging them by saying that homosexuality is wrong.   I would like to
look at the responces to my post and make a general sterotypical
evaluation of the people who responded to the side of Christianity
and homosexuality being compatible (admitedly not all are homosexuals
but I know that many are from their e-mail responces).  I don't
normally make sterotypical assumptions about groups of people, but
since I have been asked to by many of the opposing veiw point I will.

So far people have made wild assumptions, put me down because I don't
have the resources of others, and even reverted to name calling.  If
you don't think this is an acurate representation then those of you
who are homosexual Christians show me the diffrence.