1993-1994 NHL Hockey Pool
By
Denis Papp and Chris Stoochnoff

Rules:

- Pick 17 players (3 LW, 3 C, 3 RW, 3 LD, 3 RD, 2 Goalies)
  You may pick ANY 17 players from any team.

- Points for players are as follows:
        - 1 point per goal
        - 1 point per assist
        - 1 point per 10 PIM

- Points for goalies are as follows:
        - 2 points per win
        - 1 point per tie
        - 1 point per assist
        - 1 point per 5 PIM
        - 2 points per shutout
        - 100 points per goal

Entries:

-Entries can be sent (by mail or ascii text file) to Chris Stoochnoff or Denis
Papp on Hard Wired BBS (434-7996).
-Due date for entries is the first day of regular season play. After that,
no more entries will be accepted (unless it is just slightly late. If that is
the case, there will be a small penalty applied to the team).
-internet users can send email to dpapp@muskwa.ucs.ualberta.ca

Prizes:

Prizes have not yet been considered. They could range from nothing to free
time on Hard Wired BBS or even something else (if you have any suggestions...
please feel free to put your two cents worth in).
 One idea is to get whoever is willing to to submit an equal amount of
money, and that will go to be the prize money.  The prize money will
go to the top team who has submitted to the prize pool.  A list
of all people who submit money will be posted, as well as those who
didnt - if it is done this way.
Cost:

The cost... ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!! There is absolutely no fee for this pool.

Note:

-If you have any questions, please feel free to send them to Denis Papp or
myself (Chris Stoochnoff). The players positions (ie. Brett Hull is Right
Wing) will be decided by the year book I will be using. So, if you do not
know a certain players position, or you are not completely sure what position
he plays, then ask me and I'll tell you.

-And for a great time, call the Hard Wired BBS at (403)-434-7996 (this will be
the location where the pool standings will be displayed).

Internet Users:


Before I even think about getting this, is it going to be posted to
comp.sources.x at any time in the near future?

Greg.


Is it possible to get an xterm scrollbar to come out on the right
side instead of the left?

Ron Shenk


I'm planning on writing several classes to build a raytracing/radiosity library
on top of, and i'm wondering if anythink like this is freely available on the
net before i go to it. What i need is classes like rays, vectors, colors,
shaders, surfaces, media, primitives, worlds (containing primitives) and
views/images.

Please post or mail.
--
Torgeir Veimo

Studying at the University of Bergen

"...I'm gona wave my freak flag high!" (Jimi Hendrix)


Could someone please tell me what the dip switches on the
back of the AST Hot Shot 286 accellerator card do?  I
recently acquired the card and did not get any docs.

any information will be appreciated.
-Rob
--
Robert M. Bultman                              |
Speed Scientific School                        |
University of Louisville                       |
Internet: rmbult01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu |


OK I sold all but these, I had some offers and I accepted an offer
of 25.00 for the pair from bdale@gag.com ( Bdale Garbee ).  I don't
know what happened to him but he won't reply now that I accepted
it so I'll offer these again.


No, and in fact, that was Ferreira's original strategy, which the troika
proceeded to simply continue to implement. There wasn't exactly a radical
shift in policy when he was ousted (something people seem to forget). The
only real question is whether they did it as well as Ferreira could have if
he stayed, or whether the basic strategy was flawed (since Ferreira has been
quoated as saying he's going to do something different in Anaheim with the
Ducks, my guess is that it wasn't as good in practice as it was on paper,
and he's tweaking it a bit second time around). One also has to wonder
whether the strategy would have been a lot better if we hadn't had those
injuries, and whether we're complaining about the weather because an
earthquake collapsed the root cellar.

Let's also NOT FORGET that Ferreira came *THIS* close to trading Kelly
Kisio, which, if the rumors I've heard are true, was over the strong
objections of other aspects of Shark management and probably had a lot to do
with both his ouster and the three-headed, consensus oriented GM.

Imagine, for a second, where the Sharks would be today if that fax machine
hadn't jammed.

Especially an unhappy player that isn't playing as well because of it. Not
that I'd accuse Mullen of tanking, but his motivation simply wasn't there,
and that kind of thing can affect the team.

Exactly. At the time they let Skriko go, we hadn't yet had the major injury
bugs that killed us later. I'd much rather have Skriko around than someone
like Dean Kolstad, but at that point, that wasn't the choice. And since the
choice was more one of Skriko vs. someone like John Carter, I think the
right choice was made for that time period.


RIght now the HST sevicing mission is listed as 11 days.  before
it was listed as 9 days.  they just kicked up the number of spacewalks
to 5,  after simulations indicated  that it was not do-able in 4.

After all the space walking,  they are going to  re-boost the HST's
orbit.  I think right now  it's sitting  at 180 miles up,
they would like  220.  I don't know the exact orbit numbers.
I know when HST was first flown, it was placed in the Highest
possible Shuttle orbit.

Now the shuttle can cary a thing called the EDO pallet, or extended
duration orbiter pallet.  It's mostly  LOX/LH for the fuel cells
and RCS gear,  plus more O2  and canisters for the life support
re-breathers.  maybe more nitrogen too.

THe limit on space-walking is a function of suit supplies (MASS)
and Orbiter Duration.

In order to perform the re-boost of the HST, the OMS engines
will be fired for a long period.  Now the shuttle is a heavy
thing.  THe HST isn't light either.  THe amount of OMS fuel
needed to fly both up is substantial.   a small booster
carried up and used to boost HST on it's own will weigh significantly
less then the OMS fuel required to Boost  both HST and SHUttle,
for a given orbital change.

From what i understand,  the mass margins on the HST missions are
tight enough they can't even carry extra Suits or MMU's.

Now if they used a small tug,  I would bet,  just a wild guess,
that the savings on amss margin  would allow carrying the
EDO pallet,  extra suits,  more consumables,  parts for the
flaky FGS sensor,  parts for the balky solar  electronics,

and still enough for a double magnum of champagne.

or the HST could even get placed into  some sort of medium orbit.
The reason they want a high orbit, is less antenna pointing,
and longer drag life.

a
Whatever it is,  the problem in the tilt array is a big constraint
on HST ops.


Go with the Mercedes, if you can afford it.  I think the 300 wagon starts around
50k, although it could be 60k.

There is no comparison with any of the other cars listed.


A Yugo that will go 1/4mi in 7.7 seconds will _not_ lose on the
street. That's just too damn quick. It might be wrapped around
a telephone pole at the end of that quarter mile, but it will
be there alone...

Or you could replace the stock shifter with a Hurst short-throw
shifter (available from Ford Motorsport), or any number of other
after-market products to boost the performance of a Mustang or
Camaro. Can you do _that_ with a '93 RX-7, or, verily, with _any_
MR-2? With the Detroit aftermarket, you can build a Mustang or
Camaro which is superior to either car you mention for less than
the sticker price of either.

Well, gee. It works, and it doesn't break. It transmits power to
the drive wheels, and it's essentially zero maintenance--and there's
an aftermarket in parts for Ford and Chevy rear-ends, too.

Well, the '93 Mustang Cobra (which, from all reports, uses the
same running gear as '94 Mustang) has 4-wheel disks. I can't
speak for the new Camaro, but I think it does, too.

Also, stop and think about the markets here. The Mustang is, and
always has been, a mass-market sporty car (that's where the
"pony car" class came from) with a performance model. That's
why it has the econo-box running gear. That was also factored
into the design of the Mustang from the day Lee Iacocca conceived
his baby; it was designed as a wide-market car--sporty, yet
accessible--with room for performance tweaking.

The cars you listed are designed for a specific market niche,
and they both fit those niches very well. The Mustang, at least,
does well in multiple markets; I can't speak for the Camaro.

				James


Well, we're almost halfway through the first round, and so far things are
good in general:

  1. The 2 teams that I hate most: Chicago and "Basten" are down 3 zip.
     (even though there is a possibility either can still win their
      series, yet this ego-thrashing and arrogance-smashing by the
      underdogs (St. Louis and Buffalo) is so rewarding).
  2. Montreal is at this stage in a team's life where they are not good
     enough to go all the way, yet too good to be able to get some
     (really) good draft picks... :-(
  3. Is it just me, or does anyone out there also think that this year
     the cup final should be played between 2 teams from the WALES?
  4. Is it just because they're playing Montreal that I find the diques
     arrogant ***'s, or are they really?
  5. Smythe-what???? I'm really getting sick of seeing Douggie and Wendel
     night in and night out... We should see some Canucks/Jets/Flames
     action...!
  6. Don Cherry is an ******* alright, but hey... so are our politicians...

ObLeafsJoke:  Q. what do you get when you cross a maple leaf and a
                groundhog?
              A. Six more weeks of crummy hockey!
------------------------------------------------------------------
L8R, dudes...
GO HABS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

--
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jon Shaib  ac291@carleton.freenet.ca


When I changed from SVR4 to SVR4.2 on my Intel box I discovered that
some of my SVR4 xclients such as xload, etc would no longer work.

They bomb out with the message:

error: can't open display unix:0.0

Is this because they can't find the correct shared libraries, they need
to be recompiled, or have I not used the correct options?

Both systems use X11R5.

Thanks.


Current votes for favorite goalie masks (3pts - 1st, 2pts - 2nd, 1pt - 3rd)

Player                    Team                 Pts       Votes
--------------------------------------------------------------
1. Ed Belfour             Chicago              31         14
2. Andy Moog              Boston               30         13
3. Curtis Joseph          St. Louis            26         11
   Brian Hayward          San Jose             26         10
5. Ron Hextall            Quebec               16          8
6. Gerry Cheevers         Boston (retired)     11          6
7. John Vanbeisbrouck     NY Rangers           10          4
   Grant Fuhr             Buffalo              10          4
9. Mike Richter           NY Rangers            6          3
10. Manon Rheaume         Atlanta (IHL)         5          2
11. Don Beaupre           Washington            4          2
    Ken Dryden            Montreal (retired)    4          2
--------------------------------------------------------------
Others receiving less than 4pts: Mike Vernon (Cal), Clint
 Malarchuk (Buf/SD,IHL), Tommy Soderstrom (Phil), Ray LeBlanc (USA),
 Artus Irbe (SJ), Tim Cheveldae (Det), Sean Burke (NJ),
 Rick Wamsley (Tor,ret), Jon Casey (Minn), Bob Essensa (Win),
 Glenn Healy (NYI), Toy Espo (???), Gilles Gratton (???),
 Rod Stauber (LA), Gump Worsley (???), Pat Jablonski (TB),
 Grant Fuhr (Tor), Felix Potvin (Tor), Stephane Beauregard (Win),
 Mark Fitzpatrick (NYI), Chico Resch (NYI)

Can someone please tell me which teams the (???) play(ed) for? Thanks.


dps@nasa.kodak.com Pontificated:

Can you cite an example of this.  Please post an answer as I
don't want to receive e-mail.


:
:    Isn't there a relatively new treatment for kidney stones involving
:    a non-invasive use of ultra-sound where the patient is lowered
:    into some sort of liquid when he/she undergoes treatment? I'm sure
:    I've read about it somewhere. If I remember it correctly it is a
:    painless and effective treatment.
The use of shock waves (not ultrasound) to break up stones has been
around for a few years.  Depending on the type of machine, and intensity
of the shock waves, it is usually uncomfortable enough to require
something...  The high-power machines cause enough pain to require
general or regional anesthesia.  Afterwards, it feels like someone
slugged you pretty good!


Well ...
Have a look at a new journal: Journal of Experimental Mathematics
It has several Fields medallists on its editorial board.
You want to knwo more?
Try Klaus Peters in Boston or David Epstein at Warwick .


According to what I saw in a store today, the Performa 405 is not the same
as an LCIII.  It only has a 16Mhz 68030 while the LCIII has a 25Mhz 030.
Correct me if I am wrong, because it is possible that the dealer may have
forgotten to remove the description that was next to the actual computer.
Dealers who sell the Performa are known to have about as much knowledge
about Macs as I do about DOS machines.


And as someone mentioned earlier, from the apocryphal Book of Enoch,
satan was apparently kicked out for three times asserting his own will,
"I will".  Hmmm...pro-choice looks kinda creepy here.


I am using a NEC 4FG with my Centris 610. The cable adapter was provided by
NEC (you have to call to get this free adapter). I am also sharing it with my
486 (using a switch box and extra cables).

My questions:

	How do you tell if it is 600x400 or 800x600 that was displayed?
	Or how do you change the mode(resolution)?
	Is there SW for this or something I have to do with the HW?

I am assuming I am getting 800x600 since I have 1M VRAM and the 4FG can display
1028x768(?) with my 486.


For sale by owners who were also the builders

Contemporary Cape House located in Sandwich, Ma

Three bedrooms, two baths, one car oversized garage
large eat-in kitchen
Cathedral ceiling from to back living room
deck off of kitchen and dining room

20,000 sq ft
1,696 sq ft living space
full walk-out basement

$139,900, creative financing a possibility


I think to some extent this is a case of stooping to their level.  You assume
that the general public "can't handle the truth" and then, based on this
assumption, go for the fluff arguments.  Then someone, who can understand a
good argument, comes along and asks "why don't you just develop the spinoffs?"
or "why can't we just get our spinoffs from some other program, like the
military?"  There are some good arguments for space development without relying
on its side effects.  I'm not ignoring the value of spinoffs.  I simply think
that the general public deserves more credit than you give them.

And if you're going to use spinoffs you better make darn sure you are right.
Teflon has been around since before NASA.  As I understand it, Velcro was
conceptualized by a french doctor who went walking in the woods and took the
trouble to wonder how burrs stick to your clothes.  Certainly velcro was
available on hiking equipment by the early to mid sixties.  I would need to
see some good evidence before I believe that either of these would not be here
today without NASA.


Is anyone out there knowledgeable on drug issues in Japan?  I'm interested
in knowing if Japan has or has ever had a problem with drugs, and how they
dealt with it.  I've heard, undocumented, that Japan years ago used heavy
legal penalties to end a serious heroin problem.  I'd like to know both
sides of the story.  Does anyone recall such a problem?  What were laws
at the time relating to drug use, drug dealing, and drug trafficking?  What
are the laws now?  What other anti-drug measures, like education and treatment
has Japan used?  How are drugs regarded by the Japanese people?  How effective
have anti-drug measures been in Japan?  Thanks for your help.


Anyone know of a good software package that will allow us to keep track of
who is printing what and when?  Is there any way to get Print Manager to keep
a log?  Is there a Print Manager replacement that will do this?  How about a
package that will only allow access to the system for people in a password
file?  I looked at Chastity, but it will let you log in without a password,
and doesn't keep tabs of who got on and when.
   Any help will be greatly appreciated.


Yeh,but :

1.Biran Sutter's playoff record as the head coach in St.L wasn't very
impressive. His Blues teams were eliminated very early in the playoffs.
It doesn't look like this trend will change with the Bruins.

2. Bruins have never come back to win after falling behind 2-0 in their
entire 68-year history. It doesn't look like Buffalo will just lose
their next two games at the Aud with the way Fuhr has been standing on
his head.

Basically,the Bruins will be on the golf course by next weekend.
Also,it seems like the whole Boston area has gone baseball crazy after
an incredibly great start by the Red Sox(best record in their major
leagues as of now). I would say that 70% of the callers to the Bruins'
flagship station(SportsRadio 590) are talking about the Red Sox,about
15% are yapping about the Patriots' upcoming draft,10% are on the Celtics
and about 5% are on the Bruins.
Somehow,no one around here is really schocked the way Bruins are folding
early.


Don't forget the LAMG (Los Angeles Macintosh Group) BBS! It's the BBS for
the largest Mac-only user group in the country now that BMUG is
multi-platform.


>but whether I would.


What a dope!  There is no value for Mohammed Elabdellaoui to be here
at a Western University.  Third-worldist and Islamic brain-rot has
made it impossible for him to acquire and analyze facts appropriately.

The history of the efforts of the Mufti of Jerusalem to serve the
Nazis in the South Balkans and set up Muslim SS Divisions is
well-documented.  In general, Nazism and the leader-principle
resonated well among Muslim peoples.  Khomeini's concept of the faqih
is a recent example of such resonance.  In fact, totalitarianism is
etymologically a reasonable translation Islam.

To be fair, the Mufti did not succeed in getting large numbers of
Muslims to join the SS.  But the rather small Muslim SS unit did
manage to commit attrocities disproportionate to it size.  There were
also Muslim people who were less than enthusiastic about the attempt
of Muslim leaders to entice Muslim people to serve the Nazi cause
actively.  And the Turkish government ignored practically all Nazi
overtures even though an alliance with the Nazis against the Soviet
government would have made a great deal of tactical sense.

			Last time I heard, the nazis prided themselves in

Yes, the typical primitive Muslim psychopathological psychotic
behavior upon hearing or reading a disagreeable fact -- start whining
about the Jews.  What a jerk.

You should go back to your mindlessly stupid 3rd world country.  Your
brain has no business in a civilized first world country.


Sez Dave Kingman when he used to take off for Rosh Hashanna and Yom
Kippur on days they coincided with the season.


Is there a tn3270 program which support xterm? I don't like x3270 at all. You
can't copy with other windows. Thanks.


: >What tube does the Viewsonic 17 use?  Does is support 1600x1280?  I've been
: >looking a a Philips 1762DT which uses a Sony Trinitron tube, has digital
: >controls, supports up to 1280x1024NI, and has .25mm dot pitch - It can be
: >found for under $1000.

: The original poster, John Navitsky, said that he might use the monitor on
: a SparcStation LX. The LX is able to generate a picture at 1280*1024 at
: 76 Hz. Not officially, but I tried to set this resolution and refresh rate
: and the LX came up with a non-syncing screen. Our tube obviously couldn't
: handle this speed. At 67 Hz, it worked perfectly.

I don't know which tube the Viewsonic 17 uses, but it has an 82khz horizontal
bandwidth so you can go pretty high.  I ran mine at 1280x1024x75 which was as
fast as the Orchid P9000 could drive it.  Also, the 17 does claim to be able
to support 1600x1280, but I have no experience with that.

Since I have the spec sheet in front of me I'll type some in:

CRT:	17", 0.28 mm dot pitch, 90 deg deflection, RGB mediou short
	persisance, Tint (TM=52%), anti-static, anti-glare, anti-reflection

Input Signal:  RGB Analog 0.7Vp-p, 75 ohms (also has setting for 1Vp-p)
	Sync: H/V Separate(ttl), composite (+/-), sync on green (+/-)
	horizontal freq: 30-82Khz, vertical freq: 50-90Hz
compatibility: PC from VGA to 1600x1280 non-interlaced, mac IIci and above
controls: contrast, brightness, position, size, degauss, p-p voltage, color
	temp, sync select, color tuning, moire on/off.
video band witdth: 135 MHz
Max brightness: 120 cd/m2 at white flat field
misconvergence: .35mm (max) at center, .45mm (max) at corner
dimensions: 16.3"x16.22"x17.64", weight 42.6 lbs

I don't know what some of those mean and don't verify their accuracy, I just
typed them in.  Other things they hype on the sheet are a 'double quaduple
dynamic astigmatism focus'.  Right.  They mean they use two lenses.  Advanced
Invar shadow mask.  ViewMatch color control which they claim is and easy-to-use
system that adjusts colors to closely match printer output.  As near as I have
been able to figure out, this translates to separate controls for red, green,
and blue.  How this makes it easy to match for printer output is beyond me.

But beyond the hype, the monitor is very pleasant to look at.  Sharp, clear,
and isn't nearly as bad as the NEC's for reflections.


$200 in Glassboro, New Jersey  :(


I'm new to the MS-Windows world, and while a fairly competent
Sparc/Nextstep programmer, I have no idea which development kit
to purchase.  I have heard good things about Borland C++ with
Application Frameworks and Microsoft's Visual C++ with SDK (?)

What I would like is peoples comments on which package or set
of tools they find useful or productive and why.  There are a
plethora of other kits such as GUI toolkits available and I'm
wondering which of these are best in terms of reliability, plug
and go type operation, readability and so on.  I'd be interested
in comments on these or anything else you may find useful.

I will summarize to the net if there is enough interest.

Thanks,
Veenu


And

And Bejing = Peking, who cares about native tongue, as long as we all
understand each other.

Oh, not more than a few feet, I wouldn't think.  I'm sorry IF your paternal
grandparents died in Oswiecym or Aushwitz, which is easier to say than prove,
but if so, the lesson they paid thier lives for was wasted on you.

You are the expert.  I often feel compelled to brag about the circumstances of
my grandparent's death.  8-}

A BATF offense, if true.

A LOCAL offense, if true.  Totally outside the BATF's domain.

I didn't know the man.  Just what the TV chose to tell me.

I thought there were prejudicial undertones here.  I would trust my daughter's
judgement.

I don't believe either side blindly.

IF they fired first, without announcing in a beleivable way who they were ( I
can pound on your door and claim to be the police, will you just lay down and
take it if I do?), then he could be justified in firing on the ATF in
self-defense.

"His background"?  What law has he been convicted of breaking in the past?

Jim
--
jmd@handheld.com


: Please reply to the seller below.
:
: 210M Formatted SCSI Hard Disk 3.5"
: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
:     Rodime 3259TS  (3 available)

WARNING
I have had bad experience with this model and I know several others
who also have run into difficulties. The drives will work just a limited
period of time and after that the disk will report medium error.
Dont ask me for details, my disk is just stone dead.

David


#> I heard the diesels are considered cleaner-burning than
#> gas engines because the emit less of: Carbon Monoxide,
#> Hydrocarbons, and Oxides of Nitrogen.  (CO, HC, NOX).
#>
#> But they can put out a lot of particulate matter.  I heard
#> something about legislation being discussed to "clean up
#> diesel emissions".  Is there anything in the works to
#> install "scrubbers" for diesels?  How about the feasibility
#> of installing them on trucks and cars?  Would it be any
#> different than a catylitic converter?  I'd assume easier,
#> since we're removing particulate matter instead of converting
#> gasses.  Let's hear people's opinions...
#>
#
#VW and Mercedes have tinkered with particulate traps.  Also, VW
#uses a kind of turbocharger on their Jetta ECOdiesel that helps
#reduce particulates as well, although I don't know the
#mechanics of it.
#
#Many diesel cars,busses, and trucks in Europe are now being
#equipped with catalysts and traps in an effort to clean up
#diesel emissions, already well below legal limits anyway.
#
#It's a shame GM had to soil the diesel's reputation in
#passenger cars and prevent further resource devotion to
#research into making this outstandingly efficient engine even
#further ahead of gas engines in emissions.
#
#erik

   I sure don't know what and how they measure in regards to diesel
 motors in cars, trucks, and busses, but I think they are probably
 measuring the wrong pollutants, or at the wrong time, or both.

   I certainly find it offensive to drive behind a diesel bus or
 diesel truck and some diesel cars.  They stink!  And it's always
 roll-up-the-windows panic time when one comes by or ducks in front
 of me when I am driving with my family.

   I don't think the combustion mixture is kept under very good
 control in diesel engines, and that's why they stink.  So the
 invisible, unsmellable pollutants are reduced in diesels.  Yeah,
 well so what!?  Someone forgot about the visible, stinky kind, and,
 as far as I am concerned, those kind are just as bad.

    I am all for de-stinking the diesel vehicles.  It'll keep the
 traffic signs cleaner, too.

 Fred W. Bach ,    Operations Group        |  Internet: music@erich.triumf.ca
 TRIUMF (TRI-University Meson Facility)    |  Voice:  604-222-1047 loc 327/278
 4004 WESBROOK MALL, UBC CAMPUS            |  FAX:    604-222-1074
 University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., CANADA   V6T 2A3


I am looking for a shareware graphics package called NeoPaint v1.1.  I
saw it in a shareware catalog and was hoping that I could FTP it from
the net but have been unable to locate it.  I have tried Archie and I
have gone through the entire comp.graphics newsgroup looking for some
reference to it and have found none.  I have  also looked through the
FAQ and also no reference.  The program is called NeoPaint v1.1 and if
anyone has heard of it or knows where I can get it I would appreciate
it.

Suggestions for other PC based shareware paint programs would also be
appreciated. Email me your responses.


Hi there, maybe you can help me...

I have an '88 Corolla with a 5 speed as the subject line says.  The gearbox
seems excessivly clunky.  I used to have an '85 Corolla, and it was also
somewhat clunky, but it had 30,000 more miles on it, and it wasn't nearly as
bad as this car!  Is there fluid in the 5speed case?  If there is, could it
just be low, or in need of a change?  As I recall, only the autos have fluid.
Or am I just mistaken?  Please no flames for owning an import.  I also have
an old Dodge, but it's not in very good shape these days...


In a word, yes.

1989 Bonnevilles prices (avg. retail):


	If you get blown over riding your bike down your drive at home then
it's too windy to ride...=8^D.


I ordered an external floppy drive from them 2 years ago.  When I placed
the order, they said it was in stock and would ship the next day.  A week
passed and no drive.  I called them up and they said they were out of stock
and my drive should ship in 2 weeks or so.  Since I needed the drive right
away (both my internal hard drive and floppy were dead) I cancelled my
order and haven't dealt with them since.


When constructing active filters,  odd values of resistor are often required
(i.e. something like a 3.14 K Ohm resistor).(It seems best to choose common
capacitor values and cope with the strange resistances then demanded).

Is there a PD program out there that will work out how best to make up such
a resistance, given fixed resistors of the standard 12 values per decade?.(1,
1.2,1.5,1.8,2.2,3.3 etc ).  It is a common enough problem,  yet I cant
recall seing a program that tells that Rx+Ry//Rz gives Rq,  starting with
q and finding prefered values x,y and z.


I dunno about hat. I have friends up there on GEnie who are now saying that
Ottawa's gone soft on Daigle and is thinking hard about Pronger. Daigle has
shown an Attitude the latter part of this season many folks havne't liked,
and after coming back from his (second) multi-game suspension for being
stupid, he's really tanked in his performance. His stock is dropping like a
rock.

Also remember that a lot of teh "draft 1st" stuff comes from the assumption
he'll be traded to Quebec for lots of prospects. It's not clear that
Quebec would really be willing to pay a lot for him given his current
status. He's still first round, but I don't consider him a first pick lock
by any means at this point.

It's also possible that the Senators are posturing to try to bring down his
signing price, since Daigle has been taking some Lindros lessons during thos
suspensions.

No. Kariya won't go in the first three, for a very simple reason: he's not
leaving college, and I don't believe ANY of the expansion teams are going to
use a first for someone who won't be around for another year or two, not
when there is equally good (or almost as good) stuff available that can make
an immediate impact. San jose seems to be leaning heavily towards
Niedermayer for that reason. Kariya could go 6th or 7th, unless a team can
convince him to leave school early (which I doubt).

My cut on things as they stand today:

	(it depends on if the Sharks can get a deal for him. I don't
	believe they draft him to keep him).


That's fascinating.  I take it that you're expressing skepticism
at the idea that those ignorant savages could have influenced
the Constitution of the people who stole their continent.  You
could be right, but it sounds plausible to me.  Is there any
reason that you dismiss it out-of-hand?  Here's some more:

   Recent scholarship has shown that in the mid-1700s Indians were not
   only invited to participate in the deliberations of our "founding
   fathers," but that the Great Binding Law of the Iroquois Confederacy
   arguably became the single most important model for the 1754 Albany
   Plan of Union, and later the Articles of Confederation and the
   Constitution.  That this would be absent from our school texts,
   and from history, and from media is not surprising given the devotion
   Americans feel to our founding myth: Great men gathered to express
   a new vision that has withstood the test of time.  If it were
   revealed that Indians had a role in it, imagine the blow to the
   American psyche.
   ...
      By 1754, when most of these men and others gathered to creat the
   Albany Plan of Union, the first try at confederation, they invited
   forty-two members of the Iroquois Grand Council to serve as advisors
   on confederate structures.  Benjamin Franklin freely acknowledged
   his interest in the Iroquois achievement in a famous speech at
   Albany Congress: "It would be a strange thing...if six nations
   of ignorant savages[sic] should be capable of forming such a union
   and be able to execute it in such a manner that it has subsisted
   for ages and appears indissoluble, and yet that a like union should
   be impractical for ten or a dozen English colonies."
      According to Grinde, Franklin convened meetings of Iroquois chiefs
   and congressional delegates in order to "hammer out a plan that he
   acknowedged to be similar to the Iroquois Confederacy."

Grinde is Professor Donald Grinde,Jr., of the University of California
at Riverside whose book _The Iroquois and the Founding Fathers of the
American Nation_ addresses this issue.


 Hey, we could start a new game on the net.  It's called 'Where's Roger?'
It's similiar to 'Where's Waldo?' but instead of finding Waldo in a picture
of people, we try to find Roger in a newsgroup on the net.
 I predict that he'll be in r.s.basketball.pro next.


This story was in the LA Times a few months ago.
The Clinton administration is exploring every avenue of
"revenue enhancement", but not all will be chosen.


I have a Logitech 256grays hand scanner from a PC.  I'm wondering if anyone
has been successful in connecting the scanner to a mac?  It has the same
connector and is a serial device on the pc.  I can imagine the pins coniguration would need to changeed, but I'm not sure if the signal levels would be correct,
and if the mac s/w would work with it.

Of course the manuals say nothing about the interface, connector layout or
anything H/W-ish!

Any ideas??

thanx,


To really speed up the game umps need to START CALLING STRIKES the way
they used to.  I'm talking about making the strike zone start at the
knees and go up to the top of the letters.  Forget this "the strike zone
is in the general area of the groin".  A lot less 3-and-2 counts and a
quicker game.


Check into the vopl and vogle libraries.  I beleive that I still have
them available on ftp.c-mols.siu.edu but I'm not sure.  I haven't seen
any new announcements for the software but I'm sure it's still around.

I have used it to do real-time data display and analysis as well as
just for producing graphs after the fact.  It works well and supports
numerous graphics output formats (including X.)  I tried it and liked
it.  YOu may as well.


It is still incestuous.... :)


folks,

I have a Panasonic kx-1124 (just inherited with no documentation) which is
giving me a problem that i cant resolve.

 The paper out light refuses to go out . It starts to blink when ever i
turn the power on which 2 beeps. It does allow be to go on line with green
light lit, simultanously the red paper out light also remains lit -but is
does not blink.

 Please do not give any references to manuals , as i dont have any.

Thanking you all very much in advance.

Sincerely


	Minor quibble back at you.  I am in the same general area as
	the Koresh compound and I can tell you that the air was quite
	chilly that morning, especially with the high winds that
	were blowing. (Of course the swiss cheese walls made it
	even worse. ;-)


+
+>This tactic depends for its effectiveness on the dog's conformance to
+>a "psychological norm" that may not actually apply to a particular dog.
+>I've tried it with some success before, but it won't work on a Charlie Manson
+>dog or one that's really, *really* stupid.  A large Irish Setter taught me
+>this in *my* yard (apparently HIS territory) one day.  I'm sure he was playing
+>a game with me.  The game was probably "Kill the VERY ANGRY Neighbor" Before
+>He Can Dispense the TERRIBLE PUNISHMENT.
+
+What, a dog weighs 150lb maybe, at max? You can't handle it?
+
+You have, I presume, thumbs? Grapple with it and tear it's head
+off!
+
+Sheesh, even a trained attack dog is no match for a human,
+we have *all* the advantages.

Look, if you are worried about being attacked by a dog, just carry
some "Spot" remover with you :-).
____________________________________________________________________________
		Russian Roulette is fun 5 out of 6 times


    Mostly. The Q950 does have a SCSI2 controller chip as it's SCSI
chip, but it does not have the chips to use the Wide or Fast SCSI-2
modes and therefore doesn't offer much more in the way of SCSI
performance over the Q900. It does, howrever, have a faster I/O
controller than the Q900; this is where the real speed boost comes from.


: At the risk of beginning a cascade, I'll start with a possibly cheesy
: good 'ol Uhmericun:

: "Our shield is freedom"

Or, considering what our government has been doing for the past 50 years,
perhaps this would be more appropriate:

     "100% Debt"

--


You don't say what kind of "electronic equipment" you mean.  It's hard
to give a generic answer.  There is essentially no solvent that won't
do things like washing lubricant out of switches.

When we've needed to do an emergency cleaning job on things, we've just
used distilled water.  The key thing to remember is to make sure the gear
is *completely* dry before powering it up again.  We let it dry for
several days to be damn sure.

I doubt that methanol has significant advantages over water.  I would
be very wary of CCl4, not least because it is dangerous to *you* even
if it's not going to harm the equipment -- not only is it poisonous,
but I believe it's now known to be carcinogenic.


That study which was in the NEJM, I think, noted that the frequency
of heart surgery on patients over seventy increase with income in
California (I guess richer people have more heart disease in
California -) ) whereas the frequency of surgery on patients over
seventy in Canada was relatively uniform across income distribution.
Heart surgery was more frequent in California, but mortality and
outcomes were essentially the same.

The only potential problem I see with the private MRI facilty in Calgary is the
self-referral problem to the facility for the doctors who have a financial
interest in it, which is basically unethical...but in Canada because
of our small population, there is likely only to be a few private
facilities involving only a small number of doctors,
and thus I don't think the self-referral problem, which is an epidemic in the
US, could ever get out of hand here.

It is an experiment that will be certainly be watched carefully.

What likely happened is the sponsors of the private MRI which include
doctors anticipated that Alberta would need more MRI's, and instead
of waiting for the health planners to realize they needed another
one or two, saw a business opportunity...where they would have a
secure business from the public insurance side of things, and they
could supplement people and businesses who want to pay cash.


: PS The first posting I saw I thought was a joke in *VERY* bad taste. My appologies
: to the person who broke the news.

For what it's worth...

: Note:  This file will also be available via anonymous file
: transfer from csrc.ncsl.nist.gov in directory /pub/nistnews and
: via the NIST Computer Security BBS at 301-948-5717.
:      ---------------------------------------------------
:
:                          THE WHITE HOUSE
:

I haven't been able to open an ftp session with that machine.

Operating under the assumption that the address was wrong, I tried using
nslookup and nicname/whois...

[nnsc.nsf.net]
Host or domain name            Internet address
[...]
 ncsl                           server = mail-gw.ncsl.nist.gov
 mail-gw.ncsl                   129.6.48.199
 ncsl                           server = dove.nist.gov
 ncsl                           server = ecf.ncsl.nist.gov
 ecf.ncsl                       129.6.48.2
 ncsl                           server = enh.nist.gov
 ncsl                           server = SUNMGR.NCSL.NIST.GOV
 SUNMGR.NCSL                    129.6.48.12
[...]

That's all I could find about the ncsl domain...oh, and I tried an MX lookup
on the machine in question, which failed.  Nicname/whois domain lookups at
both registries failed, too.

So I thought, "hey, I'm just not using the tools right" and tried calling
the BBS number -- no answer.

I'm probably doing something wrong...or, perhaps, the machine has been put
behind a firewall.  But it does look like csrc.ncsl.nist.gov has become an
un-machine.  If someone would try ftp'ing to it, or knows what's up, I'd
really appreciate the info.


As a matter of fact, I just saw a dermatologist the other day, and while I
was there, I asked him about dry skin. I'd been spending a small fortune
on various creams, lotions, and other dry skin treatments.
He said all I needed was a large jar of vaseline. Soak in a lukewarm tub
of water for 10 minutes (ONLY 10 minutes!) then massage in the vaseline,
to trap the moisture in. That will help. I haven't tried it yet, but you
can bet I will. The hard part will be finding the time to rub in the
vaseline properly. If it's not done right, you remain greasy and stick
to your clothes.
Try it. It's got to be cheaper then spending $30 for 8 oz. of 'natural'
lotion.


Let me see if I got this right.

Group of religious plinter schismatics erect a compound
and after at least fifty years of peaceful co-existance
with the outside community (having shoot outs only with
each other) - this makes them dangerous.  Prior history
would seem to indicate they are only dangerous to themselves.

Last I knew there was no National Branch Davidian Party
blaming the debacle in VeitNam on Foreign Meddlers and
three-two beer, calling for the Rounding up of Meat Packers,
Growers and Slaughter Houses.

You want tough political choices - how about letting odd balls
be odd balls?  (I know, this requires tolerance for
those that go into Government - but we all know people
who have no useful skills.)

ith the death of the children everybody is getting
real upset - what about the other 40 plus people?
I suppose that you consider children to be property
of the state with the family as custodians. (In the
States its the other way around - children are parental property.)
If what you consider a Corrupt Government demands that
you send you children into _their_ tender care - I
suppose that you will obey the State and turn you children
over to their care.  Sorry - I am not as enamoured of the
womb to tomb cradle that is IngSoc.

Gotta go, the beach is calling.
chus
pyotr


I have recently picked up a page scanner by the name of EZ-SCAN II
model 35.  The software for it was made for per-Windows 3.x windows
and will not work with the newwer windows.  Does any one out there kow
were I could find the company that made this beast (Copyrights say
1987.) And the name GMS a division of DEST.  Does anyone know if these
companies still exist and if they do, do they have an email address?

Or, if anyone knows of a freeware/shareware programme that is able to
access this scanner.


I am going to stop reading the homosexuality posts, at least for a
while, because of the repeated seemingly personal attacks on me via
post/e-mail(mainly e-mail).  If anyone has a specific comment,
suggestion, and/or note that does not contain any name calling, etc.
that they would like for me to read, send it to me via e-mail.  I
would like a copy of file mentioned by the moderator ragarding the
exergetical issue of it.  I attempted to get it via ftp but was
unable.


:>On the subject of CS/CN/tear gas: when I received my initial introduction to
:
:You couldn't find a window after six hours?
:
:--
: Daniel A. Hartung  --  dhartung@chinet.chinet.com  --  Ask me about Rotaract

Have you ever been violently sick repeatedly?  I have, and it was difficult to
drag myself back to my bed, much less move through a building full of smoke and
debris, especially when most likely already disoriented from lack of sleep and
constant psychological abuse...  Throw in the fact that the 'safety' outside
consists of people who have shot at me and thrown grenades at me, and are
currently knocking my house down with tanks, I could understand if the BD's
were inclined to stay put in the center of the building...


        ^^^^^^^^^^

The acetaminophen is the agent of concern in overdose of this
OTC medication.  A single dose of acetaminophen of 10 grams or greater
can cause hepatotoxicity, and doses of 25 grams or more are
potentially fatal from hepatic necrosis.  If I recall
correctly, the metabolism of acetaminophen at high doses
involves N-hydroxylation to N-acetyl-benzoquinoneimine, which
is a highly reactive intermediate, which then reacts with
sulfhydryl groups of proteins and glutathione.  When hepatic
glutathione is used up, this intermediate then starts
attacking the hepatic proteins with resulting hepatic
necrosis.  The insidious part of acetaminophen toxicity is the
delay (2-4 days) between ingestion and clinical signs of liver
damage.  This is NOT a nice way to die.

As to taking 20-30 of these tablets, that comes to 5-7.5 grams
of acetaminophen.  In a normal adult, this would probably
cause nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, and loss of appetite.


Nanao: call 1-800-800-5202. Ask for a catalog.


	I'm not sure that you can distinguish between myth and legend so
neatly, or at all.  A myth is more than a single story.  The thought
structure and world-paradigm in which that story is interpreted is as
important a part of the myth as the story itself.  Thus, I can think of
no story which is meant to be conveyed understandably from one person
to another within a single culture which won't rest upon that underlying
thought structure, and thus transmit some of that culture's mythical
"truths" along with it.


Although simplistic I have always liked the fact that "a Christian is one
who not only believes in God, but believes God."  After all the name was
first given externally to identify those who "preached Christ and Him
crucified" to pay the price of their rebeliion and shortcomings before
God.  God said this was His son -- I belive Him.
--
Scott Dittman                    email: sdittman@wlu.edu
University Registrar             talk: (703)463-8455   fax: (703)463-8024
Washington and Lee University    snail mail:  Lexington Virginia 24450


Just to clear things up (as to why I posted the question that way)...
I was debating with a co-worker about diesels.  I claimed they were
cleaner-burning than gas engines.  He said the extra "junk" put out by them
was offset by the savings in greenhouse gasses.   I made all the SAME claims
you did.  But, one question of his was what about the carbon?  I said it
was harmless, but he wanted to know how to get rid of it.  I suggested
scrubbers.  (I figured it would be no harder or more expensive to install
than "cats".)  Does there exist any designs for a scrubber?  (I'd like
to know just to answer his final question.)  I convinced him that diesels
are cleaner otherwise.

BTW, (I named my subject "Dirty Diesels" because I knew it would get a reaction
out of people who knew they were cleaner than gas engines and that they'd
read it...)
--
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-- Vel Natarajan  nataraja@rtsg.mot.com  Motorola Cellular, Arlington Hts IL  --


[... other info deleted ...]

Are you sure it's not a problem caused by software?  I've seen this sort
of effect when a runaway program (which could be caused by an INIT
conflict, for instance) accidentally wacks on a register in the video
hardware.  Have you tried booting with no extensions and then letting the
Q950 just sit there in the Finder?  You might also want to try changing to
24-bit addressing (yes, I know you can't access your full 64 MB of RAM -
it's just an experiment) as the video hardware registers can't be accessed
then.

Another thing to try as a 'recovery' measure is to use something like
QuickKeys to change the pixel depth of the display.  This reprograms (some
of) the video hardware registers and may allow sync to be restored.


Acorn Software, Inc. has 3 tape drives (currently used on a VMS
system) for sale.  These are all SCSI tape drives and are in
working condition.

         WangDat 1300 4mm                $500.00
         WangDat 2600 4mm (compression)  $650.00
         Exabyte 8200 8mm                $650.00 (SALE PENDING)

Plus shipping and COD.  Certified checks only, please.  These
units are sold as is and without warrantee.  Contact me if you're
interested.
--
Dick Munroe				Internet: munroe@dmc.com
Doyle Munroe Consultants, Inc.		UUCP: ...uunet!thehulk!munroe
267 Cox St.				Office: (508) 568-1618
Hudson, Ma.				FAX: (508) 562-1133


Enclosed is an advertisement for the Defending the Faith IV
conference to be held at Franciscan University of Steubenville (Ohio)
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fellowship, as well as Eucharistic Liturgies Friday and Sunday.

   Registration is $85 per person, but I believe financial aid is
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   Franciscan University of Steubenville is located in eastern Ohio on
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   Feel free to e-mail me if you have any question I can answer.

   Here is the agenda, as typed in by a friend of mine:

Friday afternoon special:

Reflections on C.S. Lewis, a preliminary session with Walter Hooper.
Walter Hooper is one of the foremost international experts on the
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Walter was ordained a priest in the Church of England in 1965, serving
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----------------
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In Search of the Truth: Finding the Fullness of Faith
Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz.

Know Your Rites
Kimberly Hahn.
-------------------
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Apologetics Means Never Having to Say You're Sorry
Karl Keating

C.S. Lewis: My Signpost to the Catholic Church
Walter Hooper

Mass
Bishop Bruskewitz, celebrant
Fr. Ray Ryland, homilist

---------------------------
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The Mystery of Femininity: Why It Excludes the Priesthood
Dr. Alice von Hildebrand

Men Make Better Fathers: Masculinity and the Male Priesthood
Dr. Peter Kreeft

----------------------------
Saturday evening:

When Do Catholics Hear the Gospel?
Dr. Thomas Howard

The Catholic Gospel: Not Just Saving Sinners
Scott Hahn

-----------------------------
Sunday morning:

There's No Place Like Rome: The Pilgrimage of Two Protestant Pastors
Panel.

Mass
Fr. Ray Ryland, celebrant
Fr. Michael Scanlan, TOR, homilist

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Is there a readily available solvent that does a good job at removing the
corrosion/encrustation that collects on the battery terminals (usually the
cathode) when using alkaline batteries (or more accurately, when NOT using
them for a long time)?


  I didn't say that.  Did you say that?  Wow, I can't believe that
anyone would think that the Braves (or any other team, for that matter)
should get the title for free.  What a dolt that person would be, if
that was what they thought.  Incredible.

--


I worked in support for a while at a company and we had problems with several
Toshiba 1600's in a short space of time. They were all around 2 years old.
Some screens went completely (as above), others were just "dodgy".

This happened to about 5 or 6 out of, maybe 100. They were fairly reliable up
to then and I don't think it was a special problem with Tosh's (no link to the
company). So I would think that 21 months may not be unreasonable - just
unlucky!

Regards,

Kate.  :)|


Unlikely.  Ammunition is not as dangerous when simply burned as it
is when fired from a gun.  The brass case is not capable of holding
the pressure generated by burning powder, and will (unless supported
by the walls of a gun barrel or chamber) simply split open.  While
this may cause small pieces of brass to fly around, it will not
propel the bullet with any significant velocity.

In fact, it was not uncommon in years past to dispose of old loaded
cartridges by burning them.  As long as you were not close enough
to take a piece of flying brass in the eye, you were reasonably safe.

Thus, the detonation of loaded magazines or loose rounds might cause
slight injury but would be unlikely to cause fatal bullet wounds.


But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet
from fear of evil.


om>

Cliff, do you know the difference between "Windows" and "Win-OS/2"?  Here's
a helpful hint:

Running "Windows" under OS/2 2.0 is only possible in real mode, in a DOS
box. Of course, this is only possible with Windows 3.0, since Windows 3.1
no longer has a "real mode".

The ability to run standard mode, the ability to have an OS/2 <-> Windows
clipboard, the ability to run seamless, and a few other things were all added
by IBM to "Win-OS/2".

Now, everybody who is running "Windows" in real-mode in a DOS box under OS/2
2.x raise your hand. Finally, everybody who is running "Win-OS/2" under OS/2,
raise YOUR hand.

Get the picture, Cliff?


If this man Clark is a NASA administrator then god save NASA. Of course
the Shuttles record is unrivaled !  There is only one Shuttle. Furthermore,
there is only likely to be one Shuttle now that Hermes and Boron are
effectively cancelled.

These officials should spend more of their time explaining to their
European and Asian partners how we are expected to believe in them
when their paymasters change their minds on major international
projects everytime a new US administration takes office (considering
the major impacts this has on the European and Asian (Japanese)
industry). It is also appreciated how this affects American
industry. I am of course talking about Space Stattion Freedom.


We are interested in constructing a reentry vehicle to be deployed from a
tether attached to an orbiting platform.  This will be a follow on to our
succesful deployment of a 20 kilometer tether on the March 29 flight of
SEDS (Small Expendable Deployment System), which released an instrumented
payload that reentered the earth's atmosphere and burned up over the west
coast of Mexico.  This time we want to make a payload that can be recovered.
We want to build it from "off the shelf" technology so as to do this as
quickly and inexpensively as possible.  We want to be able to track the
payload after it has deployed its parachute.  An idea we have is to put the
same kind of radio beacon on it that is used with SARSATs (Search and Rescue
Satellites).  It would turn on with the opening of the parachute and aid in
tracking.  These beacons are known in the marine industry as EPIRBs
(Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beacon).  They are rugged (they have to
be to survive a ship wreck!) and cheap.  We have several questions:

1.  What is the world authority regulating the use of SARSAT beacons.  Are
there multiple authorites, i.e. military and civilian?

2.  What are the regulations regarding the use of SARSAT signals.  Can they
be used for one of a kind situations with a long lead time of warning the
relevant authorities, or are they strictly reserved for life threatening
emergencies?

3.  What is the coverage of SARSATS?  Are they in LEO with only intermittant
coverage of a fixed position on the earth, or are they in geosynchronous
orbit?

4.  Is there an industry organization governing the use and manufacture of
these transponders?

Please post replies here or send E-mail to me at:
	fennell@well.sf.ca.us
Thanak you very much for any assistance you can provide.


The FBI has claimed from the begining that it wasn't standard use
tear gas. How do you know it was? Or do you just assume it was
for flamebait?


HELP!

I am trying to find software that will allow COM port redirection under
Windows for Workgroups.  Can anyone out there make a suggestion or reccommend
something.  I would really hate to have to write some driver for the serial
port that would support the network, but that is my next step.

Thanks in advance.


: My wife wants to publish a newsletter. She's no artist, so she intends to
: use comercial clipart and customise it a bit by drawing a circle or a box
: around it etc.
:
: We have MSPublisher for manipulating text, but it is not suitable for doing
: much with graphics, so she needs a more specialised tool. Right now she's
: looking at Corel Draw and Harvard Draw. There seem to be more books in the
: stores on Corel than on Harvard, so she's inclined to go with Corel on the
: basis of popularity. Can anyone give us an informed opinion on which
: package would be more suitable or if there is an even better alternative
: available? If this is a FAQ, please withhold the flames and just send the
: location of the FAQ document. Thanks.
:

Go with CorelDraw.  PCMag just did a review a couple of issues ago and Adobe
Illustrator and CorelDraw were picked as the best.

: Three PS's:
:
: 1) Is it ok to use clip art from Harvard Draw or whatever for commercial
:    purposes?

(other two deleted...)
As far as I know it's okay.  You'd have to read the licence agreement that
comes with the package to be sure.

--


I believe that Phil Esposito was the first to wear #77 when he played
with the Rangers in the '70s.  This was the season that they put the
Rangers crest and "modern-style" numbers on the jerseys instead of the
"NEW YORK" or "RANGERS" block letters and two-colour numbers.  He took #77
because the Rangers already had a #7.

(Hockey Night in Canada made a big thing out of it, saying it was the
biggest uniform style change in a long time.  This was before Pittsburgh
and Vancouver changed their colours.)

     dwarf


Please do not do this!

I don't know how the rest of you read news, but here's how I do it:  I
subscribe to an "outernet" system which allows me to dial up via modem and
download e-mail and news articles automatically.  When someone posts a
huge attached binary file, I have no choice but to receive it along with
all the other new articles in the groups I subscribe to.  I also pay for
the connect time, which is normally not a problem because I have a 14.4K
modem and each day's upload/download session takes only 5 minutes or so.
Today's session, however, lasted about 25 minutes because of ROMAN.BMP.
Consequently, it cost me about $3.00 extra just to receive a file that I
didn't want in the first place.

If you have cool bitmaps that you want to make available, there are other
ways to do it:  either upload the file to an ftp site (like
ftp.cica.indiana.edu, which has a complete Windows section) and tell
people how to get to it, or use one of the newsgroups like
alt.binaries.pictures (or something like that), which are file archives
rather than discussion groups.  Don't use discussion groups like this one
to send out attached files, especially when they're 600K in size.


[...stuff deleted...]

As many posters have said in as many posts lately, this is just
not true.  For to show no interest in the existence of god takes no
faith at all.  You make the presumption that the _knowledge_ of the
_possibility_ of something is enough to require faith to render
that possibilty of no interest.  It is a very different thing to say
that you don't believe something than it is to say that you don't
have sufficent reason to believe something is even interesting to
think about.  It's not either or.  Sometimes is just something else
more interesting that occupies your mind.

I agree that faith and dogma are inevitable, but not necessarily
applied to god and religion.  It takes both faith and dogma to
expect the sun to come up every morning, but there is overwhelming
reason every single day, day in and day out, for _everyone_ to put
his faith and dogma there.  Not so with the christian religion.


Well, an LT1 Blazer wouldn't come close to a GMC Typhoon in speed, I think its
too heavy.  As it is right now, the normal 210HP 5.7 engine has plenty of
power for a full size Blazer.  Of course, I'm not saying GM shouldn't put the
LT1 in it :).  It seems like they have a real winner with that engine.  Why
spend so much more money into getting a 32 valve DOHC V8 when you can take
an LT1?  It even seems to get pretty good gas MPG (for a 5.7, that is.)

[talking about Impala SS]

Yeah, it's a flat black, lowered 4 door Caprice riding on 17" aluminum rims and
Eagle GS-C tires.  The rest of the car is basically a Caprice LTZ (read:
plush police package) with 300 horsepower.

I heard that Chevy is resurrecting the Monte Carlo but that's going to get
their 3.4 DOHC V6 and not the LT1.

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Andrew Krenz -- uznerk@mcl.ucsb.edu | krenz@engrhub.ucsb.edu


	What a load of crap ! The BDs had absolutely NO RIGHT to fire
	upon the BATF agents. If they didn't know who they were at
	first, then they should have surrendered immediately when they
	did realize who they were dealing with. Little groups of loonies
	do not get to decide just what laws they will obey or disobey
	or what sorts of warrants are justified. Like the rest of us,
	they get their say at the voting booth and if their personal
	wants are not backed by the majority of voters, then too bad.
	If they wanted to keep automatic weapons, then they could apply
	for the proper permits. If they had a problem with the warrant
	then they get to argue that in court. In no event do they get
	to establish their own little nation inside our own and pretend
	that our laws and law-enforcement personel have no jurisdiction
	within their borders. You live on US territory, you live by
	US laws - period. (unless you are a congressman)

	Sure, the situation was handled badly by both the BATF and
	the FBI. It would have been all so easy to detain Koresh and
	his core members while they were out in the streets of Waco.
	The BATF, threatened with budget cuts, was trying for a
	propaganda coup ... and dragging the press along for the big
	commando-style assault is proof of that. They should be
	roasted for both their imcompetance and their mindset. On the
	other hand, they DID have the legal right to do what they did.
	Once the attack was begun, they should have pressed on and
	finished it rather than let an interminable situation like that
	take root.


If you put another computer on the port instead of the key, you can hack
them by reading what happens. So I've been told, I've never seen this done
but I think it's possible. You'd need some hardware knowledge and some
software to read the port!

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Guido Klemans

Internet: rcstage1@urc.tue.nl                  valid until 16 may 1993

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'Listen very carefully, I will say this only once.'  Michelle of the resitance


I get the picture, I just find it humorous that Running Windows 3.1 apps ( 3.0 for 2.0 )
is what makes os/2 more credible...


#@$#%$!!  I *have* a copy of Allen, and it never occurred to me to look
in there...  I must be getting old...  I'll look it up when I get home.
Thanks.

I'd remembered a rather higher number, but that may have been for the
lunar nearside, where the Earth is a significant heat source.


I>From: ccastco@prism.gatech.EDU (Costas Malamas)
ssupports pkzip 2.04.  It does NOT require pkz/unzip in order to work, and
ccosts only $10 to register.


[much BS deleted for brevity]

It certainly smacks of that! Remember the "POLL" that you quoted saying that
you had seen a 95% of users being satisfied with DOS 6.0? Care to recall how
unbiased the sample set was? That post sure looked like FUD....and coming
from a microsoftie .... well, it sure seemed like something was not on level.

Advocacy is GOOD - but spreading FUD to advocate your favorite OS is very
unethical - especially when you have a vested interest in the success of that
OS.

That is because their actions seem to invite this opinion - never seen more
defensive people in my life. Moreover, many of their posts seem to encourage
this too, IMHO.

Seriously speaking, it is a shame that MS techie employees get the heat for
MS's actions - most of which are perpetrated by the Management and marketing.
I am sure that they ARE very talented etc ... I have not doubts about their
abilities, just about the ethics of their marketing practices.

Divya
--
Divya


export.lcs.mit.edu:/contrib/R5.SunOS5.patch.tar.Z

Get Xsun.multi-screen.tar.Z while you're at it.


It seems that there are more and more "bands" available for
police radar each month.  I have recently purchased (within
the last 8 months) the BEL 966STW.  While it is not a perfect
detector by any means, it does do the job fairly well.

Now, however, I pick up a car magazine at the airport and
read about this Super Ka Wideband which is a superset of
the Ka Wideband that this latest generation of detectors
was touted as covering.

So now BEL has a NEW series of detectors out that cover all
the usual bands (X, K, Ka photo, Ka wideband) as well as the
new Super Ka wideband.

Just as there comes a point of diminishing returns when chasing
increased PC computing power with faster and faster CPUs (for
the average home consumer, at least), it seems that there is
now the same concern with radar detectors.  Does it make sense
to upgrade just 8 months after purchasing my "new" detector?
Is Valentine upgrading their equipment?  If so, it might be
worth it for me to upgrade to the Valentine.  I was in the
market for a Valentine when I purchased the BEL but the
3-4 month waiting time was just too much for me since I had
inadequate protection with my Passport.  Life was much simpler
when there was just X and K band and Escort has the best
equipment on the market and there was no need to continuously
shop for a new detector.  I hope that the flood of new radar
bands ceases with this new Super Wideband business.


It is easy for Sen. Biden to say that when there are no US troops in
Zepa or Srebinica or Sarejevo...

The existing UN policy may certaining be wrong, but the US wants
to dictate policy, and make Europe responsible for the consequences
of that policy...

...Bosnia is a big enough problem for the US to preach about what
other countries should be doing with their forces...but its forces
are safely tucked away at home in the US.


I am trying to define my own class derived from the Object class so
that I may insert them into a HashTable (a class provided by the
Container class library).

I have defined all of the pure virtual functions of Object, but I
still get an error when I attempt to allocate a HashEntry object:

  Cannot create instance of abstract class HashEntry

Has anyone derived from class Object before?  What have I left out?
Here are the virtual functions that I defined from Object:

virtual classType      isA()   const { return hashEntryClass; }
virtual Pchar          nameOf()const { return "HashEntry"; }

virtual hashValueType hashValue() const { return hashValue(hWindow); }
// Note: hWindow is defined in HashEntry

virtual int            isEqual (const Object _FAR &obj) const
{ return this == &(HashEntry&) obj; }

virtual void           printOn( Rostream os) const
{
 os << "[ HWindow is " << (void _FAR *) hWindow << " ]\n";
}
--


There is a bancrupcy sale coming up soon, and I wonder if anyone
know about these printers: Olivetti PG-306, Canon LBp-8R,
Nec silentwriter 2 S60, Kyocera Laser F3000.
Which of the above, if any, has Postscript, and an appletalk interface builtin.
Please reply by E-mail.
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Tommy Nordgren                     "What is a woman that you forsake her
Royal Institute of Technology       and the hearth fire,
Stockholm                           and the home acre,
f85-tno@nada.kth.se                 to go with the old grey widow maker."


What say you and Nick go somewhere else with this shool yard crap.


Early in Church history, the catechumens were dismissed prior to the celebration
of the Eucharist.  It WAS secret, giving rise to the rumors that Christians
were cannibals and all sorts of perverse claims.  The actions were considered
too holy to be observed by non-Christians, as well as potentially dangerous
for the individual Christian who might be identified.

Larry Overacker (llo@shell.com)
--


I have an Ethernet card that i took out off an old LC. The card
	is manufactured by Asante. On it i can read:
	"Asante Tech, inc. Copyright 1991. MACCON + LC REV.B".
	The card has an fpu socket on it. It provides thin Ethernet connector
	and there's another connector on it which resembels to phone connectors.

	My questions are:
	- Will this card work on any other model than LC-serie ?, given that
	it's a PDS card, will it work with the IIsi PDS slot ?. I think there
	may be a probleme because the LC has 16 bit wide slots.

	- What's that other conncetor on the card ?.

	_ Is anyone interested in it ?. I can ship it to any CEE country.


no

I'd recommend reading _Mormonism and Early Christianity_ by Hugh Nibley,
particularly the articles on Christ's forty-day (post-resurrection) mission,
baptism for the dead, early Christian prayer circles, and temples (2 articles).
..bruce..

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Bruce F. Webster             | A religion that does not require the sacrifice
CTO, Pages Software Inc      | of all things never has power sufficient to
bwebster@pages.com           | produce the faith necessary unto life and
#import <pages/disclaimer.h> | salvation.  -- Joseph Smith


Minor point:  Shea Stadium was designed as a multi-purpose stadium but
not with the Jets in mind as the tennant.  The New York Football Giants
had moved to Yankee Stadium (from the Polo Grounds) in 1958 and was
having problem with stadium management (the City did not own Yankee
Stadium until 1972).  The idea was to get the Giants to move into Shea.
When a deal was worked out between the Giants and the Yankees the
new AFL franchise, the New York Titans, approached the City about using
the new stadium.  The Titans were playing in Downing Stadium (where the
Cosmos played soccer in the 70s).  Because Shea Stadium was tied into
the World's Fair anyway, the city thought it would be a novel idea to
promote the new franchise and the World's Fair (like they were doing
with the Mets).  So the deal was worked out.

I'm under the impression that when Murph says it, he means it!  As a
regular goer to Shea, it is not a bad place since they've cleaned and
renovated the place.  Remember, this is its 30th Year!


Diplomatic :-)

I realize I'm fighting Occam's razor in this argument, so I'll try to
explain why I feel a mind is necessary.

Firstly, I'm not impressed with the ability of algorithms. They're
great at solving problems once the method has been worked out, but not
at working out the method itself.

As a specific example, I like to solve numerical crosswords (not the
simple do-the-sums-and-insert-the-answers type, the hard ones.) To do
these with any efficiency, you need to figure out a variety of tricks.
Now, I know that you can program a computer to do these puzzles, but
in doing so you have to work out the tricks _yourself_, and program
them into the computer. You can, of course, 'obfuscate' the trick, and
write the program so that it is uncovered, but as far as I can see,
the trick still has to be there in some form to be discovered. Does
this mean that all the ideas we will ever have are already
pre-programmed into our brains? This is somewhat unlikely, given that
our brains ultimately are encoded in 46 chromosomes worth of genetic
material, much of which isn't used.

One way around this is to bring the environment into the equation, but
(again, as far as I can see) this still has an air of 'if you see
object X, then perform action Y,' and we don't seem to get anywhere.
The algorithm has to anticipate what it might see, and what
conclusions to draw from it's experience.

The other problem with algorithms is their instability. Not many
algorithms survive if you take out a large portion of their code, yet
people survive strokes without going completely haywire (there are
side-effects, but patients still seem remarkably stable.) Also,
neurons in perfectly healthy people are dying at an alarming rate -
can an algorithm survive if I randomly corrupt various bits of it's
code?

The next problem is the sticky question of "What is colour?" (replace
'colour' with the sensation of your choice.) Presumably, the
materialist viewpoint is that it's the product of some kind of
chemical reaction. The usual products of such a reaction are energy +
different chemicals. Is colour a mixture of these? If this is so, a
computer won't see colour, because the chemistry is different. Does an
algorithm that sees colour have a selective advantage over an
equivalent that doesn't? It shouldn't, because the outputs of each
algorithm ought to be the same in equivalent circumstances. So why do
we see colour?

A bit of idle speculation...

If I remember correctly, quantum mechanics consists of a wavefunction,
with two processes acting on it. The first process has been called
'Unitary Evolution' (or 'U'), is governed by Schroedinger's equation
and is well known. The second process, called various things such as
'collapse of the wavefunction' or 'state vector reduction' (or 'R'),
and is more mysterious. It is usually said to occur when a
'measurement' takes place, although nobody seems to know precisely
when that occurs. When it does occur, the effect of R is to abruptly
change the wavefunction.

I envisage R as an interaction between the wavefunction and 'something
else,' which I shall imaginitively call 'part X.' It seems reasonable
to assume that _something_ causes R, although that something might be
the wavefunction itself (in which case, part X is simply the
wavefunction. Note, though, that we'd need more than U to explain R.)

Anyway, I'm speculating that minds would be in part X. There seems to
be some link between consciousness and R, in that we never see linear
superpositions of anything, although there are alternative
explainations for this. I've no idea how a brain is supposed to access
part X, but since this is only speculation, that won't matter too
much :-) My main point is that there might be a place for minds in
physics.

I'll go back to my nice padded cell now, if that's OK with you :-)

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Kevin Anthoney                                         kax@cs.nott.ac.uk
            Don't believe anything you read in .sig files.


Then what is a "Flat-" engine???


Has anybody seen empty Everex's being sold ?
I want the cube. Not the computer inards.
Will it take standard AT-size motherboards ?

Thanks. e-mail please.

--


	Ahh Broncos.  Well personally, I have a '78.  The blue book is just
a hair over 3 grand.  I bought it for 2500 and then bought new tires 650
front end rebuild 350, carb rebuild 130.  Then i did the unthinkable
and blew the engine (not bronco specific, unmaintained engine with 168,000)
2400 more bucks there, now it is in nice condition, well after new seats out
of a t-bird, radio, 2 amps, speakers, alarm, well the radio and amps were
free and i bought the speakers used for 40 bucks, and the other speakers
i took out of my old jeep (Sell a Jeep for a bronco you might ask,
but it was a Wagoneer).  Its a lovely specimen, solid front and rear
axels, ford 9" and a dana 44 up front.  Watch the rear axel wrap, i
busted off my u-bolts ONCE, i added traction shocks after that and
haven't had a problem since.  Also the bottom of the doors tend to
rot, bottom of the tailgates likes to rust right up to the new ones
that might be in your budget.  The post 80 broncos have that sickly
TTB front end and little stamped and folded steel radius arms were
as the 78-79 have nice big cast iron longer radius arms(ie more prspective
wheel travel).  The only rust i have is on my doors and a few
dings in the sheet metal.  I don't know when the removeable tops were
discontinued but they are fun.  I just ordered a full convertable top
for 400$ for mine(credit card).  Don't ever break the window if you
have the double laminated bronzed privacy glass in your cap it is over
400 bucks to replace.  My bronco also does pretty good offroad,
i haven't bottomed out my suspension, YET, and have crossed over
3 foot deep of water with no problems, handles rocks like a charm too.
One problem is it is WIDE and you sometimes can't follow a CJ or a
Toyota, between two rocks or trees, and your grandmother will have
a hard time getting up into it.


One point not yet mentioned:
	Hands on the driver's shoulders are a definite no-no.  It feels
good for the passenger to stretch her arms, and a shoulder massage feels
good too, but the shoulders are connected to the arms, and the arms to
the handlebars...  Should you hit the brakes, the pressure on the shoulders
can make steering interesting.

Bundle her up if it's cold, make sure she has good gear (say it again),
an pat her thigh to let her know all is great.


That would be Clint Malarchuck.  It was speculated at the time, that
the injury was so serious that had he been playing at the other end
of the rink at the time (he was playing in the same end as the
ambulence is parked), he never would have survived.  Ditto, if he
were playing anything other than a league with an ambulance on
standby.

If you've seen video tape of the incident, it is amazing how much blood
there was.  It was literally spurting out all over the ice, as Clint
grabbed his neck and watched the puddle in horror.

Amazingly enough, he made a full recovery, and played again in the
NHL.  He was getting on in years at the time of the incident anyway,
and didn't play for too long afterward.  Some people speculated that
he just couldn't get himself back together after the incident, and I
think he had a bunch of other personal problems dogging him afterward.
He did eventually get back to form, and played another year or so after
that, and then I believe he retired.

Anyone else?

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Carol Boudreau            #44                         a.k.a. The X-Terminator
boudreau@athena.mit.edu                           Go Flames!  Rock the Kings!


You don't *need* to, but it's desirable.  HST, like all satellites in
low Earth orbit, is gradually losing altitude due to air drag.  It was
deployed in the highest orbit the shuttle could reach, for that reason.
It needs occasional reboosting or it will eventually reenter.  (It has
no propulsion system of its own.)  This is an excellent opportunity,
given that there may not be another visit for several years.


I once wrote such a program (in BBC basic...) It was very crude, and took
around 5 seconds to do an exhaustive search (with a small amount of
intelligence), and told you the best combination >Rq and the best below Rq.

If you want to write one, just store the prefered values in an array, and
then search the solution space using three nested loops. I'm sure you
could knock this up in an hour.

Christopher


Heck, some of his ships were loaners. One was owned by a Basque...
(you know, one of those groups that probably crossed the Atlantic
_before_ Columbus came along).


Back in high school I worked as a lab assistant for a bunch of experimental
psychologists at Bell Labs.  When they were doing visual perception and
memory experiments, they used vector-type displays, with 1-millisecond
refresh rates common.

So your case of 1/200th sec is quite practical, and the experimenters were
probably sure that it was 5 milliseconds, not 4 or 6 either.

Steve


Taking this at face value (though it seems quite dissonant with much else
that has been published here about brute force DES cracking, unless Russell
was lucky with respect to the key), I'd be very interested in whether the
program Russell used is available? In whether he used a cleartext
recognition algorithm in the program or whether he had to examine each
decryption by hand? In whether he used a known plaintext attack?

He probably should also tell us, given his address, what machine he used--a
desktop, workstation, or super-computer.

Depending on his answer, this could be an appalling development calling into
question both DES and RSA/DES. Dunno about RSA/IDEA.

If any bright programmer with a little idle machine time can crack a single
DES message in a couple of days (assuming no tricks that are
message-specific), then here's my Clipper key, NSA; give me the chip at
once.  :-)

David


OOOoooh, complaining about my spelling.

I'm _so_ hurt.

No I'm not a student.  I'm an alumnus.  And an employee.

So I can get my money _back_ from these grubs.

BNR, huh?  I hope you're not a permanent,
they'd be wasting benefits on you.

pthptptphhph!


Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one
another with all wisdom, and as you sing psalms, hymns and spiritual songs with
gratitude in your hearts to God.
Colossians 3:16

A reminder: These verses are from the New International Version. As with any
translation, faithfulness to the original Hebrew and Greek may vary from time
to time. If a verse sounds a little off occasionally, compare it with another
translation or with the original texts, if you are able to do so.


I HAVE A TANDY WP2 WORDPROCESSOR FOR SALE.  IT HAS 148K (DUE TO A 128K
DUE TO A RAM DISK), A WORD PROCESSING PROGRAM, A 200,000 WORD SPELL
CHECKER, A THESAURUS, IS 1" THIN AND WEIGHS 3 LBS.  IT TAKES 4 AA
BATTERIES (ALKALINE OR NI-CAD RECHARGABLE) OR USES AN AC ADAPTER (IN-
CLUDED).

IT IS A FULL SIZE QWERTY KEYBOARD WITH AN 80 CHARACTER BY 8 LINE LCD
SCREEN.  IT ALSO HAS A TELCOM PROGRAM WHICH ALLOWS TRANSFERS OF FILES
TO AN IBMPC WITH A NULL MODEM CABLE AND SHAREWARE TRANSFER PROGRAM
(ALSO INCLUDED).  IT HAS A 9 PIN SERIAL PORT, A PARALLEL PRINTER PORT,
AND A TAPE RECORDER FILE SAVE PORT.  THE TELCOM PROGRAM CAN ALSO BE
WITH A MODEM (NOT INCLUDED) TO ACCESS SERVICES LIKE COMPUSERVE.

THIS IS GREAT UNIT FOR A HIGH SCHOOL OR COLLEGE STUDENT TO WRITE PAPERS
AND REPORTS ON.  IT COMES WITH THE ORIGINAL MANUAL.  YOU GET ALL
THE ABOVE FOR $125.00 PLUS SHIPPING AND COD CHARGES.

SEND E-MAIL INQUIRIES TO:

______________________________________________________________________


No.  I recently bought an LC II with a 14" monitor.  The monitor comes with
the type of power cable that plugs into the switched outlet on the back of
most larger Macs.  Since the LC II doesn't have one of these outlets, there
was an extra standard power cable included with the computer for use with
the monitor.  But it was in the computer box, not the monitor box.  It's
not as if the cables are particularly expensive, though.  $10-$15 at the
most.


Hello. I am the David Sternlight keeper of the FAQ. Unfortuantely I cannot
find it at the present time.

From the original FAQ:

Question: Does anyone take David Sternlight serious?

Fact: No one takes David Sternlight serious. They review his opinions and
in most cases immediately discard them or jerk them over to
alt.fan.david-sternlight which actually should be alt.flame.david-sternlight.

A photograph of David Sternlight for the curious:

                         |\/\/\/\|
                         |       |
                         |  (o)(o)
                         C       _)           David Sternlight
                          |  ,___|            Net.Police
                          |    /              a.k.a. PROUD
              _0--------/\/----\/\-------0_   DICK OF
             /         /0 \----/ 0\        \  THE INTERNET
            /     |      \ \||/ /     |     \
           /     /|DAVID    ||  POLICE|\     \
         _/_____/ ||     ]  ||  | [#] || \_____\_
        |_______/ |\____/   ||  \__*_/| \_______|

Question: Why does David continue to relate mis statements regarding
encryption and other topics?

Fact: David Sternlight has a chemical imbalance of the right side of his
brain.


: >
: >I just wanted to let you know that there are a few honest and good people out
: >there (even outside of Iowa).  I'm sorry if anyone thinks that I am wasting
: >space, but I thought you might want some relief from the "So-and-so is a thief"
: >posts.  Not that I think we shouldn't hear about the bad deals, but it would be
: >nice to hear some good news once in a while.
:
: This was nice of Kevin to post this.  But just so no one is misled, the
: VAST MAJORITY of usenetters are "honest and good people."  In fact, in
: the latest study, 99.7% of all net.deals went off smoothly without a
: hitch.  It's just that the few bad ones are what get all the publicity.

      Agreed.  I have yet to run into a problem in deals over the net
      and I have bought things from CDs (plenty!) to a full computer.
      The only small problem that I have had was with UPS rather than
      the seller.  Besides, complaints are always what get the
      publicity....when something goes wrong, people complain.  Rarely
      have I seen posts stating how well a deal went through.  I guess
      Kevin is practically a first!


In the following report: _Turkey Eyes Regional Role_ ANKARA, Turkey (AP)
April 27, 1993, we find in the last paragraph:

[Turanist] Although Premier Suleyman Demirel criticized Ozal's often
[Turanist] brash calls for more Turkish influence, he also has spoken
[Turanist] of a swath of Turkic peoples "stretching from the Adriatic
[Turanist] Sea to the Great Wall of China."

Who does Demirel think he is fooling? It seems at both ends of his envisioned
pan-Turkic Empire -- the Balkans and the Caucasus -- Turkey's fascist boasts
are being pre-empted.

I would suggest Turkey let the world feel some of their "Grey Wolf Teeth", and
attempt to stretch from the Adriatic to China! Turkey will have cried "wolf"
just once too much!


When do the new M.benz "C" class cars come out?
The new nomenclature that MB has adopted will it only apply to the "c"
class cars or will it also apply to the current "s" class cars.
Does any one know what will replace the current 300 class since the "c"
class will be smaller and more in line with the current 190.
Another question, Is BMW realising a new body style on the current 7
series and 5 series. They seem to be a bit dated to me.


	Most bikes I've seen that use a dipstick rather than a
	sight glass are designed to check it without screwing it
	in.  In the manual for my CBR900RR, they specifically
	state it should be done this way.

				Michael


-=> Quoting Bill Gregory to All <=-

 BG> hey I saw that game!  I thought the Sabres looked better that you
 BG> described. It's Boston that looked weak and unsure of themselves.  Even
 BG> if (big if) they (bruins) win the third game what's that going to
 BG> prove?  They be lucky!

     Well now the Sabres are up 3 - 0 in games, and its to
     bad that Boston isn't putting up more of a fight as
     that could have been the best series of the playoffs,
     I think Boston will come out smoking in the next
     two games and that Buffalo will end the series in
     game six back in Buffalo, and say, how about those Islanders?
     they are up 2 - 1 on the Capitals and will probably
     win the series, only to be clobbered by the Penguins who
     should eliminate the Devils in the next game.
     I cannot see (i'm sad to say) anyone beating the
     Penguins this year (again) and they will take cup # 3
     I'm afraid.  well talk to ya later.

Steve


Local LA stores have already reduced prices by $200 on most Duo
configurations
(although Apple dropped the list price by $310).


There are some tricks to installing ATM to windows... install them first
to dos, then run the ATM control panel to get them into windows.

The best reason for ATM is that Adobe IS the standard.  Truetype is a
failed MS venture to undercut Adobe when Adobe was being nasty about
keeping their formats proprietary.  Just about any service bureau or print
shop will smirk and send you on your way if you bring a TrueType document
to them for high resolution printing or ripping.

Although there are lots of pretty TT fonts floating around, they are really
for dot matrix or your own lazer printer.
However, you can convert your TT fonts with Fontmonger or some similar program
to ATM fonts for high end stuff.

If you are using dot matrix for all your printing, you may have wasted
your money!


The patches for xv.h need to use ``#ifdef SVR4'' rather than the
overly complex ``#if defined(sun) && defined(SYSV)'' in order to
generically compile XV on i386SVR4Architecture.  Also, rand and srand
don't work very well--use lrand48 and seed48 to get better results.
Otherwise, xv-3.00 compiles just fine on my Esix System V 4.0.4 box
with XFree86 and gcc-2.3.3.  I just uncommented the gcc definition in
the Makefile, added -L/usr/X386/lib -I/usr/X386/include to the COPTS
line and modified LIBS to include -lsocket -lnsl.  Really John, if you
just use the Imakefile things like this don't even have to get
mentioned...

*** 1.1	1993/04/28 08:33:13
--- xv.h	1993/04/28 17:47:38
***************
*** 284,292 ****
--- 284,298 ----

  /* signal macros */
+ #ifdef SVR4
+ #define HOLD_SIG         sighold(SIGALRM)
+ #define RELEASE_SIG      sigrelse(SIGALRM)
+ #define PAUSE_SIG        sigpause(SIGALRM)
+ #else
  #define HOLD_SIG         sigblock(sigmask(SIGALRM))
  #define RELEASE_SIG      sigblock(0)
  #define PAUSE_SIG        sigpause(0)
+ #endif


This was a recent discussion on rec.martial-arts.  Humans definitely don't
have all the advantages. Dogs are deceptively strong and often bred for
fighting of one sort or another.


+In article <1993May7.211312.10403@bert.eecs.uic.edu>, rsc@siggraph.org
+|>           Computer Graphics experimental special online issue
+|>                                May 1993
+|>
+|> The May 1993 experimental special issue of Computer Graphics is online
+|> as a set of files on the  siggraph.org  system in the directory
+|>      ~ftp/publications/May_93_online
+|> This is made available to the computer graphics community by ACM
+|> SIGGRAPH.  The general theme of this issue is electronic documents, and
+|> the Table of Contents in the AboutThisIssue files will tell you more
+|> about this publication and its contents.
+
+        I ftp'd here, but found nothing.  Has this been removed?

Nope, it's still there:


       It's possible to make boards in other colors, and I have an ad
for laser light-show equipment which offers the circuit boards in your
choice of Day-Glo (tm) colors.

       The usual light green color is just the natural color of Fiberglas.
The dark green or blue is the solder mask layer, and I suspect that color
is a dye.


I'm going to be mixing together here stuff from two of Ted Frank's
articles, <1993Apr15.143623.25813@midway.uchicago.edu> (which was a
response to me) and <1993Apr16.011455.20518@midway.uchicago.edu> (a
response to Tim Smith)...

Eminent domain is a state-mandated transaction in which one party is
required to sell a piece of property which it owns to another party,
regardless of whether the first party wishes to sell at all, at a price
which is set by the state.  I fail to see how this doctrine can be found
in tort, bankruptcy or contract cases in general.  Well, okay, sort of
in bankruptcy...

*  *  *  *  *

Bang.  Here's one of the places where we widely diverge.  You believe
that the courts, in deciding a civil dispute between two parties, should
consider as a factor -- perhaps as an overriding factor -- issues which
I believe the court should ignore as being irrelevant to the dispute.
_Boomer v.  Atlantic Cement Co._ was an action brought by one party,
Boomer, whose property rights were being violated on an ongoing basis by
another party, the Atlantic Cement Company.  The facts supported
Boomer's contention that Atlantic Cement was wrongfully damaging his
property, and Boomer asked the court to order Atlantic Cement to stop
doing so.  End of story.  There was no reason for the court to consider
such issues as what a capitalistic society would want Atlantic Cement to
do or whether the cost of compliance was disproportionate to the damage
faced by the plaintiffs.  Those issues had nothing to do with the case
before the court.

I'd be up in arms?  Why do you assume that?  Quite the contrary, I'd
probably support the action, since it would be based on the same general
doctrine as the decision that I believe would have been correct in
_Boomer_: the idea that people's property rights should not be violated
for reasons of economic efficiency.  In _Boomer_ it was Boomer's
property rights which I believe the court should have protected; in the
hypothetical EPA ruling you've presented, it's the American people's
collective property rights in a healthy physical environment.  What
good is cost-benefit ratio of 15+:1 if you wind up with cement dust in
your air?

*  *  *  *  *

Yes.  So what?  The courts are supposed to protect the specific rights
of individuals, not the general interests of some nebulous society.  If
society can have its cement plant without violating anyone's rights,
fine.  Otherwise society will somehow have to limp along with one less
cement plant.  (See, Ted, I really _am_ a libertarian after all! :-)

"One wants the legal regime to approximate the end result to begin with,
in order to minimize the transactions costs."???  Which "one" are you
speaking of?  _I_ want the legal regime to protect people's rights.
Besides, Coase's Theorem only has real application in the never-never
land of perfectly rational actors.  In the real world (1) some people
are going to be stubborn, ornery, spiteful or otherwise "irrational"
from a economic point of view and (2) the purpose of the courts is to
protect their right to be so.  I don't care if you can show me logically
that your cattle are only doing $100 of damage to my property per head,
so I should rationally sell you grazing rights to my land for, say, $150
per head -- I still retain the right to tell you that I just plain don't
want any damned cattle on my property, not at any price.

*   *   *   *   *

Last question first: For the same reason as in contract law -- because
to do so would come dangerously close to treading on the Thirteenth
Amendment.

As to your "Then, by your argument, no tort plaintiff is ever made
whole, because the award of damages in involuntary" claim, you're at
least partially right.  Faced with situations in which the wrong has
already been done and the damage to the victim has already taken place
and cannot be reversed or undone, courts will try to set an equitable
price tag on the loss suffered by the victim and require the wrongdoer
to pay this price (rather than an inflated price which the victim might
prefer).  In these cases, the "sale" has already taken place and is
irreversible, and the court simply tries to ensure that a fair price is
paid, under the doctrines that (a) only in certain circumstances should
even a civil wrongdoer be forced to pay punitive or excessive prices and
(b) even a genuine victim should not profit in an unjustified or
inequitable manner from his victimhood.  Both of these doctrines may be
worth discussing or debating elsewhere, but neither is relevant to cases
like _Boomer_ in which the wrongful act and the loss stemming from it
are still in the future and _can_ be reversed/undone (i.e., prevented
from happening at all) by order of the court.

In these types of cases, all the court has to do is require that the
potential victim's property rights are protected until and unless he
agrees to sell them at a mutually-acceptable price.  There is no need
for the court to guess at the equitable value of the loss and force both
sides to accept its finding.  It can leave that operation up to the
parties themselves.

In cases like _Boomer_, they're simply a cost of doing business.  The
fact that the proprietors of the Atlantic Cement Co. got themselves into
a position in which they found themselves over this barrel is simply a
result of their own poor business decision to start up a cement plant
without _first_ trying to negotiate with Boomer and everyone else whose
property rights they'd be violating via the operation of their plant.
There's nothing punitive or unjust about it.

Anybody who wants to commit a wrongful act in the future should be
required to buy the right to do so from the victim, in advance.  And the
seller should be allowed to set his or her price for the privilege.  No
injustice, no punitive damages.

*   *   *   *   *

Doesn't sound very much like a libertarian to me.  Libertarians tend to
believe in the rights of individual people, not societies.

*   *   *   *   *

As stated above, the tort was _ongoing_.  Atlantic Cement wanted to be
able to _continue_ to violate Boomer's rights.  While the court may have
been justified in setting an equitable price tag on the damage already
committed, it had no reason and no need to set a price tag on the
_future_ violations of Boomer's rights and to then force Boomer to sell
at that price.