I don't have the faintest idea what literature it is to which you
refer. Is this an explicit statement by some document? Or is it your
interpretation of statements in such literature? Or is this a figment
of your imagination or a Nazi Armenian propaganda movie script? In
any case, a fascinating piece of analysis. Here are the facts:

Source: Walker, Christopher: "Armenia: The Survival of a Nation."
        New York (St. Martin's Press), 1980.

This generally pro-Armenian work contains the following information
of direct relevance to the Nazi Holocaust:

a) Dro (the butcher), the former dictator of x-Soviet Armenia and the
architect of the genocide of 2.5 million Muslims, the most respected
of Nazi Armenian leaders, established an Armenian Provisional Republic
in Berlin during World War II;

b) this 'provisional government' fully endorsed and espoused the social
theories of the Nazis, declared themselves and all Armenians to be members
of the Aryan 'Super-Race;'

c) they published an Anti-Semitic, racist journal, thereby aligning themselves
with the Nazis and their efforts to exterminate the Jews; and,

d) they mobilized an Armenian Army of up to 30,000 members which fought side
by side with the Wehrmacht.

In fact, by 1942, Nazi Armenians in Europe had established a vast
network of pro-German collaborators, that extended over two continents.
Thousands of Armenians were serving the German army and Waffen-SS in
Russia and Western Europe. Armenians were involved in espionage and
fifth-column activities for Hitler in the Balkans and Arabian Peninsula.
They were promised an 'independent' state under German 'protection' in
an agreement signed by the 'Armenian National Council.' (A copy of
this agreement can be found in the 'Congressional Record,' November 1,
1945; see Document 1.) On this side of the Atlantic, Nazi Armenians
were aware of their brethrens alliance. They had often expressed
pro-Nazi sentiments until America entered the war.

In 1941, while the Jews were being assembled for their doom in the Nazi
concentration camps, the Nazi Armenians in Germany formed the first
Armenian battalion to fight alongside the Nazis. In 1943, this battalion
had grown into eight battalions of 30,000-strong under the command of Dro
(the butcher), who was the former dictator of x-Soviet Armenia and the
architect of the cold-blooded genocide of 2.5 million Turks and Kurds
between 1914-1920. An Armenian National Council was formed by the notorious
Dashnak Party leaders in Berlin, which was recognized by the Nazis. Encouraged
by this, the Armenians summarily formed a provisional government that endorsed
and espoused fully the principles of the Nazis and declared themselves as the
members of the Aryan super race and full participants to Hitler's policy of
extermination of the Jews.

This Armenian-Nazi conspiracy against the Jews during WWII was an "encore"
performance staged by the Armenians during WWI, when they back-stabbed and
exterminated 2.5 million Muslims by colluding with the invading Russian army.

Serdar Argic


I hear ya!  Then again, we must remember that we are indeed Cub fans, and
that the Cubs will eventually blow it.  After all, the Cubs are the easiest
team in the National League to root for.  No Pressure.  You know they will
lose eventually.  Oh well, I suppose we must have faith.  After all, they
do look pretty good, and they don't even have Sandberg back yet.

CUBS IN '93!!!!!


OK, here is my try:

				        Lukko, Finland
					(look at the colors of his mask)

				        ex-JyPHT, Finland, now in Germany
					Excellent defenseman

					HIFK, Finland

				        Tappara, Finland

					HPK, Finland

					Jokerit, Finland

				        HPK, Finland

				        JyPHT, Finland, no new contract
					JyPHT owns his player rights

All of these Czechs (Kadlec, Dolezal not anymore) are very good hockey
players. It is a big surprise that Hlinka selected Dolezal.
"Dole" had a bad season in JyPHT and that's why they didn't make
a new contract. The other Czech we had, Jiri Jonak, got fired also.


What atheists are you talking about?

IMNSHO, Abortion is the womans choice.  Homosexual sex is the choice of
the people involved.  War is sometimes necessary.

This leaves capital punishment.  I oppose capital punishemnt because
mistakes can happen (yes this thread went around with no resolution
recently).

As far as poplulation control, I think contraception and education are
the best courses of action.

That's because you are again making the assumption that all Atheists
have some specific mindset.

Mistakes can happen Bill, and I could be the victim of such a mistake.


#In article <1r0fpv$p11@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>
#
#(Deletion)
#>#      Point: Morals are, in essence, personal opinions. Usually
#>#(ideally) well-founded, motivated such, but nonetheless personal. The
#>#fact that a real large lot of people agree on some moral question,
#>#sometimes even for the same reason, does not make morals objective; it
#>#makes humans somewhat alike in their opinions on that moral question,
#>#which can be good for the evolution of a social species.
#>
#>And if a "real large lot" (nice phrase) of people agree that there is a
#>football on a desk, I'm supposed to see a logical difference between the two?
#>Perhaps you can explain the difference to me, since you seem to see it
#>so clearly.
#>
#(rest deleted)
#
#That's a fallacy, and it is not the first time it is pointed out.

It's not a fallacy - note the IF.   IF a supermajority of disinterested people
agree on a fundamantal value (we're not doing ethics YET Benedikt), then what
is the difference between that and those people agreeing on a trivial
observation?

#For one, you have never given a set of morals people agree upon. Unlike
#a football. Further, you conveniently ignore here that there are
#many who would not agree on tghe morality of something. The analogy
#does not hold.

I have, however, given an example of a VALUE people agree on, and explained
why.  People will agree that their freedom is valuable.  I have also
stated that such a value is a necessary condition for doing objective
ethics - the IF assertion above.  And that is what I'm talking about, there
isn't a point in talking about ethics if this can't be agreed.

#One can expect sufficiently many people to agree on its being a football,
#while YOU have to give the evidence that only vanishing number disagrees
#with a set of morals YOU have to give.

I'm not doing morals (ethics) if we can't get past values.  As I say,
the only cogent objection to my 'freedom' example is that maybe people
aren't talking about the same thing when they answer that it is valuable.
Maybe not, and I want to think about this some, especially the implications
of its being true.

#Further, the above is evidence, not proof. Proof would evolve out of testing
#your theory of absolute morals against competing theories.

Garbage.  That's not proof either.

#The above is one of the arguments you reiterate while you never answer
#the objections. Evidence that you are a preacher.

Name that fallacy.


Is this true?  I thought that this was disputed...

--
-Peter


I have just started taking allergy shots a month ago and is
still wondering what I am getting into. A friend of mine told
me that the body change every 7 years (whatever that means)
and I don't need those antibody-building allergy shots at all.
Does that make sense to anyone?


Well Bosnia and the US did...the UN cannot impose blue berets on
a country, and the US has voted for the current policy and mandate
in the Security Council...and could have said no if it wanted to...
it has a veto.

Clinton has not demanded the removal of the UN forces...because he want
to have his cake and eat it too...he wants to dictate policy but
not be responsible for the policy he wants to dictate.  If Clinton
asks for the blue berets to leave, then he Bill Clinton becomes
responsible for what happens...him and Sen. Biden and their friends
who want to fight the war from 10,000 ft...as long as the blue berets
are there Clinton can use Europe as a scapegoat for American
indecisiveness.

I fully admit that the current UN policy approved by all the major
powers including the US may be wrong or inappropriate...but these
"back-seat drivers" in the US like Clinton and Biden are just a bunch
of hypocrites looking for an gimmick to look like they are doing
something to assuage their own consciences and those who are
demanding action or leadership...and most European leaders are
smart enough to know the difference between American hot air and
American leadership.

Well, if Biden is so outraged...why the hell doesn't he do something
about it...where is his resolution in the US Senate for a declaration
of war or the commitment of US forces and troops.  Biden is just
full of hot air.


xlyx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Mike Terry) asks:

ak296@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker) replies:

Ugh!  Who gave you guys your login names?  Blech  |^P

John obviously never saw me ride a buddy's CX500, known as "Torque Monster."
I could pull the most beautiful skyshots with that bike!  Unfortunately, the
owner saw me do one.  Once.  I never get to ride TM again...  ;^(

Mr. Bill


With your date/time problems, you MIGHT have a problem with the Dallas
Clock Chip (I'm making a possibly bad assumption that your system has
a clock chip and that it's the standard Dallas Clock Chip).  I always
look at the battery and the clock chip when such things go wrong--
at least, as the first course of action.

Mel. White/Data Services/City of Garland, Texas


You don't get it - do you? During the years of World War I, the x-Soviet
Armenian Government has planned and perpetrated the 'Genocide' of the
Muslim people, which not only took the lives of 2.5 million Muslim people,
but was also the method used to empty the Turkish homeland of its inhabitants.
To this day, Turkish historic lands remain occupied by the x-Soviet Armenia.
In order to cover up the fact of its usurpation of the historic Turkish
homeland, which is the crux of Turkish political demands, fascist x-Soviet
Armenia continues its anti-Turkish policy in the following ways:

1. x-Soviet Armenia denies the historical fact of the Turkish Genocide
in order to shift international public opinion away from its political
responsibility.

2. x-Soviet Armenia, employing ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism
Triangle, attempts to call into question the veracity of the Turkish
Genocide.

3. x-Soviet Armenia has also implemented state-sponsored terrorism through
the ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism Triangle in an attempt to
silence the Turkish people's vehement demands and protests.

4. Using all its human, financial, and governmental resources, x-Soviet
Armenia and its tools in the United States attempt to silence through
terrorism, bribery and other subversive methods, non-Turkish supporters
of the Turkish cause, be they political, governmental and humanitarian.

Using all the aforementioned methods, the x-Soviet Armenian Government
is attempting to neutralize the international diplomatic community from
making the Turkish Case a contemporary issue.

Yet despite the efforts of the x-Soviet Armenian Government and its
terrorist and revisionist organizations, in the last decades, thanks
to the struggle of those whose closest ones have been systematically
exterminated by the Armenians, the international wall of silence on
this issue has begun to collapse, and consequently a number of
governments and organizations have become supportive of the recognition
of the Turkish Genocide.

With the full knowledge that the struggle for the Turkish territorial
demands are still in their initial stages, the Turkish and Kurdish people
will unflaggingly continue in this sacred struggle, therefore the victims
of the Turkish Genocide demand:

1. that the x-Soviet Armenian Government, as the heirs of the Armenian
Dictatorship, recognize the Turkish Genocide;

2. that x-Soviet Armenia return the historic homeland to the Turkish and
Kurdish people;

3. that the x-Soviet Armenian Government make material reparations for
their heinous and unspeakable crime to the victims of the Turkish Genocide;

4. that all world governments, and especially the United States, officially
recognize the Turkish Genocide and Turkish territorial rights and refuse
to succumb to all Armenian political pressure;

5. that the U.S. Government free itself from the friendly position it
has adopted towards its unreliable ally, x-Soviet Armenia, and officially
recognize the historical fact of the Turkish Genocide as well as be
supportive of the pursuit of Turkish territorial demands;

6. that the x-Soviet Republics officially recognize the historical fact
of the Turkish Genocide and include the cold-blooded extermination of
2.5 million Muslim people in their history books.

Serdar Argic


: >

:   Precisely my position.

:   As a newbie, I tried the point-by-point approach to debate with
:   these types.  It wasted both my time and my lifespan.  Ignoring
:   them is not an option, since they don't go away, and doing so
:   would leave one with large stretches of complete anonymity in this
:   group.

Bob,

I've posted here long enough to see your name a few times, but I
can't recall any point by point approach to anything you've
contributed. But I'm old (probably senile) and I may have just
forgotten, if you could post an example of your invincible logic, it
might jog my memory.


	Having watched most of the televised trial, I can answer that
when such statements were made by the defense atty, the prosecutor did
object, and the judge tended to sustain the ones that were obviously
falling under the "self-incrimination" type of objection.  There was
quite a bit of meta-discussion during the trial over the use of graphic
language, with most folks asking the judge if she wanted to hear the
exact language.  Practically every time the defense tried to get the
plaintiffs to "self-incriminate" by asking them such questions, there
were objections and sustains.

	At one point the defense managed to get in a quip about
"solicitation for a felony" and the judge herself said "sustained"
before the prosecutor could get the objection stated.


	You're right, it doesn't appear to working correctly.  It really
	should say:
		"space: the last frontier"
	across the top. :) :) :)


Well here's how I prepared.  I got one of those big beach
umbrellas, some of those gel-pack ice things, a big Coleman cooler
which I've loaded up with Miller Draft (so I like Miller Draft,
so sue me), a new pair of New Balance sneakers, a Sony
Watchman, and a couple of cartons of BonTon Cheddar Cheese
Popcorn.

I haven't decided what to wear yet.  What does one wear to an
eternal damnation?


Why don't you cite the passages so that we can focus on some to discuss.
Then, following Jesus, you can make fools of us and our "logic".

Indeed, if you can justifiably make this assertion, you must be a
genius in logic and making fools of us should be that much easier.


A friend of mine recently acquired an 8!24 GC card for his IIsi
and was wondering why it always starts up in black and white.
I know there have been numerous reports about the worth of
the GC, but I was wondering if anyone could elaborate a little
more on the subject.  Any replies encouraged.  Thanks in ad-
vance.


	Yes, it is.  It is available at ftp.ctr.columbia.edu, probably
in pub/xkernel.

	In response to the earlier gentlemans question, you could
theoretically recompile xkernel on a sun4.  The binaries available are
for the sun3/50, but the author says it could be used on most
architectures, and he does have a 'do-it-yourself' type distribution.

	We use Xkernel for about 7 machines here.  email me if you
have any questions I can help you with...


Low oil pressure, usually.  Could be your oil pump, or...
checked your oil lately???

MC


It's been suggested.  (Specifically, lightning strikes between clouds
in the interstellar medium.)


from Matthew Rush:

It's pretty obvious that Holik's hitting Barrasso was an accident. He
was even apologizing for it immediately before the Penguins all jumped
on him.


OK...here is my question.  I want to hook up my PowerBook 160 to
a SVGA monitor but I do not want to buy the PowerBook/DOS Companion.  Can
anyone tell me the EXACT cable I need to connect them?  If there is such
a cable, can I purchase it from MacWharehouse or some computer store?
If I must buy the cable from James Engineering, how much do they run and
how can I get a hold them???  I guess that was more than 'a' question.  :)
Thanks in advance for any replys.

            John Schrieber       E-mail: schriejh@cnsvax.uwec.edu


Yet another suggestion, but this one is non-toxic (although I would handle
it like any other cleaner) and it smells nice.  The chemical is called
d-Limonene, and it smells like lemon peels (I think it is a lemon extract
of some kind).  You might find it in a hardware store, sold as a
general-purpose solvent, but your best bet would be any bike store --
it is used as a chain-cleaning fluid.  It works on sticker glue, crayons,
grease, oil, etc.

It's clear yellow in the bottle, and you can use it straight; if you add
water, it changes to a creamy consistency, which is good for some jobs.


I'm doing some work on the Mac IIsi and need some information on the CPU.
I have the Motorola MC68030UM/AD Rev. 1, but I fear it is out of date as it
does not have the characteristics for the CPU package type used in the IIsi.

What I need is the Theta (JC) Thermal Characteristic (the Junction to Case
thermal resistance) for the _PLASTIC_ FE style package.

If you have this info, I would appreciate your sending it by email as postings
suffer a few days delay here.

If you are keen on this stuff, I am also interested in a more accurate value
for the typical power dissipation. I'm assuming 2.25 Watts (using the 2.6 W
maximum at 0 C decreased the way the Pd drops in the 6801x as Ta increases).
If your manual has a chart of power dissipation, I'd like to know what it
reads at 25 C and 40 C.

Thanks for reading!


There is a fine line between "getting players' input" and "knuckling
under to players' demands."  A manager, much like a military officer,
needs to have his (her) players' complete obedience and respect during
a game.  After the game, it's no big deal, but when there is no time
to do more than react, players must trust the manager or the team often
falls apart (see: Boston Red Sox, ff. :) )

Strawberry's demeanor as represented by the media, often sounds like
demands.  I suspect that a comment like "I enjoy hitting fourth; I'm
used to it" would get pretty brutally misinterpreted by the media if
it came from Strawberry.  Russ Porter quoted Strawberry as saying,
"I feel more comfortable hitting cleanup and I think I perform best
in that role."  (Paraphrased by my memory and bias.)  That seems like
a fairly non-petulant answer to what was almost certainly a question
like, "How do you feel about being moved to the third spot in the order?"
A more media-sensitive player might answer "The manager knows what he is
doing.  If he thinks that batting me third will help the team, then I
am all for it."  We'd ignore that answer as brown stuff, so it seems a
little bit of an overreaction to brand Darryl's response as petulant.

Personally, I think his argument is nonsense and that it really doesn't
matter much in which order the #2-5 players in the order are batted,
except for personal stats.  If I were Darryl, I'd probably answer that
question, "The number four spot gets a few more RBI opportunities and I get
paid for RBIs.  I think it is best for me to bat fourth, but I am willing
to hit third if Tommy thinks it will benefit the team."  or something like
that.  It would be helpful at salary time--my RBIs were down because I was
hitting third--and make him sound like a "team" player.  Since Strawberry
will not likely go through arbitration, but use the free agent market for
his next contract, maybe that argument is useless, but it would help
his image with the media without appearing to be totally content-free.


SREBRENICA'S DOCTOR RECOUNTS TOWN'S LIVING HELL

    By Laura Pitter
    TUZLA, Bosnia, Reuter - Neret Mujanovic was a pathologist
when he trekked through the mountains to the besieged Muslim
town of Srebrenica last August.
    But after treating 4,000 mangled victims of Bosnia's bloody
war, he considers himself a surgeon.
    ``Now I'm a surgeon with great experience although I have no
license to practice. But if I operate on a person and he lives
normally that's the greatest license a surgeon could have.''
    Evacuated by the U.N. this week to his home town of Tuzla,
the Muslim physician gave an eyewitness medical assessment of
the horrors of the year-long Serb siege of Srebrenica and the
suffering of the thousands trapped there.
    ``I lived through hell together with the people of
Srebrenica. All those who lived through this are the greatest
heroes that humanity can produce,'' he told reporters.
    Mujanovic, 31, had practiced for two months as an assistant
at a local hospital in Tuzla, but before going to Srebrenica he
had never performed a surgical operation on his own. Now he says
he has performed major surgery 1,396 times, relying on books for
guidance, amputating arms and legs 150 times, usually without
anesthetic, delivering 350 babies and performing four cesarean
sections.
    He worked 18-to-19-hour days, slept in the hospital for the
first 10 weeks after his arrival last Aug. 5 and treated  4,000
patients.
    He arrived after making the trek over mountains on foot from
Tuzla, 60 miles northwest of Srebrenica. About 50 other people
carried in supplies and 350 soldiers guided and protected him
through guerrilla terrain, he said.
    His worst memory was of 10 days ago when seven Serb shells
landed within one minute in an area half the size of a football
field, killing 36 people immediately and wounding 102. Half of
the dead were women and children.
    The people had come out for a rare day of sunshine and the
children were playing soccer. ``There was no warning ... the
blood flowed like a river in the street,'' he said.
    ``There were pieces of women all around and you could not
piece them together. One woman holding her two children in her
hands was lying with them on the ground dead. They had no
heads.''
    Before Mujanovic arrived with his supplies conditions were
deplorable, he said. Many deaths could have been prevented had
the hospital had surgical tools, facilities and medicine.
    The six general practitioners who had been operating before
he arrived had even less surgical experience than he did. ``They
didn't know the basic principles for amputating limbs.''
    Once he arrived the situation improved, he said, but by
mid-September he had run out of supplies.
    ``Bandages were washed and boiled five times ... sometimes
they were falling apart in my hands,'' he said. Doctors had no
anesthetic and could not give patients alcohol to numb the pain
because it increased bleeding.
    ``People were completely conscious during amputations and
stomach operations,'' he said. Blood transfusions were
impossible because they had no facilities to test blood types.
    ``I felt destroyed psychologically,'' Mujanovic said.
    The situation improved after Dec. 4, when a convoy arrived
from the Belgian medical group Medecins Sans Frontieres.
    But Mujanovic said the military predicament worsened in
mid-December after Bosnian Serbs began a major offensive in the
region. ``Every day we had air strikes and shellings.''
    Then the hunger set in.
    Between mid-December and mid-March, when U.S. planes began
air dropping food, between 20 and 30 people were dying every day
from complications associated with malnutrition, he said.
    ``I know for sure that the air drop operation saved the
people from massive death by hunger and starvation,'' he said.
    According to Mujanovic, around 5,000 people died in
Srebrenica, 1,000 of them children, during a year of siege.
    Mujanovic plans to return to Srebrenica in three weeks after
visiting his wife, who is ill in Tuzla.
    ``They say I'm a hero,'' he said. ``There were thousands of
people standing at the sides of the road, crying and waving when
I left. And I cried too.''


I don't know.  Does anyone in NASA land know how much fuel is
budgeted for the altitude change?

Henry,  any figures on the mass  (full)  for the EDO pallet  plus
it's dry weight?  How about for the dry mass of Bus-1?  it was
being de-classified as i checked last.

Also, I need.

1)  current orbital parameters of HST

2)  projected  orbital parameters after re-boost.

3)  Discovery's  DRY weight

4) HST's Dry weight.

So how long do they need to train?  a year?  2 years?  somehow
I think 2-3 moths should be adequate.

Also because they significantly lacked on-orbit EVA experience.
The HST is designed for on-orbit servicing.  it should be a lot easier.

There comes a time in every project, to kill the management.

They can if neccessary, re-schedule the  HST mission.  December is
not a drop dead date, unlike say the LDEF retrieval mission.

I suspect, the BUS-1, may not have enough basic thrust for the HST
re-boost.  it mayu need bigger tanks,  or bigger thrusters.

My understanding is the Second HST servicing mission is not
a contingency.  My understanding is the mission  needs both
a new FOC  and work on the electrical system,  plus
another re-boost.

Somehow, i think the cost of an expendable SMT will be less then
$500 million.

and the extra stuff is real cheap.  NASA has lots of suits,  MMU's,
and the EDO pallets are re-usable.  Oh, one double magnum of champagne,
now there's a couple hundred bucks.

That door has cycled, X times already.  Once after massive G loading.
I somehow think they can work ou;reliability  methods to ensure the
door works.

Also,  please tell me how some sort of sublimated  material  like
CO2, or H2O  would manage to contaminate the mirror,  anything
that goes to vapor state, shouldn't adhere to the mirror.

somehow, the door,  problem can be worked.  maybe they can put a one
time spring on it.

what do they do now, if the door hangs up.  that door is part
of a intrument safing mechanism.  if it hangs up tomorrow,  it'll
be 8 months until someone gets up there witha crowbar to fix it.


A while ago there was a reference to a paper on a crypto file
system (CFS) given by someone at at AT&T (?).   How can I
get a copy?   Is it available on the net?   Was it published?
Who was the author?

   Thanks


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The number bounces between 2% and 18%, depending on the study quoted and
the type of gun being studied.

Some cites:

---------------------------------------

A recent BATF study (titled "Protecting America, Yes") surveyed 471 career
criminals and found that only 7% of guns used in violent crimes were
purchased from retail dealers.

---------------------------------------

National Institute of Justice
Research in Brief

November 1986

                        The Armed Criminal in America
                              by James D. Wright

(1) Legitimate firearms retailers play only a minor role as direct
    sources of handguns for adult felony offenders.

Only about one-sixth of the gun-owning felons obtained their most
recent handguns through a customary retail transaction involving a
licensed firearms dealer.  The remainder -- five out of six --
obtained them via informal, off-the-record transactions involving
friends and associates, family members, and various black market
outlets.  The means of acquisition from these informal sources
included cash purchase, swaps and trades, borrowing and renting, and
often theft.  The criminal handgun market is overwhelmingly dominated
by informal transactions and theft as mechanisms of supply.

---------------------------------------

INDEPENDENCE ISSUE PAPER No. 4- 91
Independence Institute
14142 Denver West Parkway #101
Golden, CO 80401
(303) 279-6536

              WHY GUN WAITING PERIODS THREATEN PUBLIC SAFETY
                             By David B. Kopel

     The basic problem with waiting periods is shown by a Bureau of Alcohol,
Tobacco and Firearms study of gun dealer sales in Des Moines and Greenville.
The study found that about one to two percent of sales were to dangerous
criminals.[51]  In short, waiting periods have no statistically noticeable
impact on any type of crime because only a tiny fraction of crime guns
are purchased at retail by ineligible buyers.

51. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, Assistant Director of Criminal
Enforcement, Memorandum to Director, July 10, 1975 (Greenville survey; of
20,047 names submitted to FBI for record checks, 68 had felony convictions;
of those, 41 had not been represented by counsel at their conviction or who
committed crimes in the distant past; twenty-seven buyers were prosecuted)
(of the 1.3% of buyers selected for prosecution, .9% had non-violent felony
convictions, and .4% had violent convictions). Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and
Firearms, Assistant Director for Criminal Enforcement, memorandum to
Director, May 8, 1975 (of 374 records checked, 39 were purchasers with felony
records who were not appropriate for prosecution because of age or
non-violent nature of felony; six purchasers were prosecuted).

---------------------------------------

INDEPENDENCE ISSUE PAPER No. 12-91

                          THE ASSAULT WEAPON PANIC:
                      POLITICAL CORRECTNESS" TAKES AIM
                            AT THE CONSTITUTION

                      By Eric Morgan and David Kopel

     Testimony before Congress revealed that most "assault weapons" in the
hands of criminals were obtained through illegal channels.{97}  The testimony
is consistent with the National Institute of Justice's research findings
based on studies of felons in state prisons. The NU study, authored by
sociologists James D. Wright and Peter Rossi found that only sixteen percent
of criminals had obtained their most recent handgun from a gun store. (The
figures included purchases by legal surrogates, rather than directly by the
criminal.) Wright and Rossi, who had begun their research as firm proponents
of gun control, concluded that no set of controls on retail purchases, and
probably not even full scale gun prohibition, would reduce criminal use of
guns. Wright and Rossi suggested that lawmakers concerned about gun crime
directly target the black market in criminal guns, and
leave the legitimate retail market alone.{98}   Not surprisingly, Wright
believes that the consequences of current "assault weapon" legislation on
street violence are likely to be ineffective.{99}   He warns that gun
controls aimed at ordinary citizens are less likely to reduce the pool of
criminal guns than to provide organized crime with lucrative new
business.{100}

6.   _See, _e.g., The Anti-drug, Assault Weapons Limitation Act of 1989. S.
Rep. No. 160, 101st. Cong., 1st. Sess. 6-8 (1989) [hereinafter SENATE REPORT]
(introduced by Senator DeConcini to reduce semiautomatic firearms abuse by
drug traffickers and violent criminals); Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control
Act of 1989, CAL. PENAL CODE $$ 12275-12290 (West 1990) [hereinafter Roberti-
Roos]; MD. ANN. CODE art. 27 $$ 442,481E (1989) (placing greater restrictions
on 17 varieties of "assault weapons," and providing punishments for failure
to comply or attempts to evade).

97.  SENATE REPORT, _supra note 6, at 17.

98.  James Wright & Peter Rossi, ARMED AND CONSIDERED DANGEROUS: A SURVEY OF
FELONS AND THEIR FIREARMS (New York: Aldine de Gruyter, 1986).

99.  _Lock _and _Load _for _the _Gunfight _of _'89, U.S. NEWS & WORLD REP.,
March 27, 1989, at 9 [hereinafter _Gunfight]. Wright also said, "If criminals
can get all the drugs they want, they can get guns, too." _Id.

100. James Wright, "Second Thoughts About Gun Control," 91 _The _Public
_Interest (Spring 1988), at 30-3 1.


Disaster! Finland was beaten by Czech 1-3 (0-0,1-1,0-2).
Finland will be 4th of pool B and will most certainly meet Canada in the
quarter final on wednesday 28th. Lack of scoring skills has
been the major problem of team Finland throughout the tournament.
Briza (goalie)  was the MVP of  the Czech team and Tikkanen was the
MVP of the Finnish team.


My brother's affine has recently been diagnosed with Sweet's
syndrome. Also called steroid resistant Sweet's syndrome.

	This syndrome started after she had had Iodine 131 treatment for
hyperthyroidism. She'd been reluctant to have treatment for the
hyperthyroidism for many years and apparently started to show exaustion
from it.

	I understand that she may still be testing high in thyroid level
but she's isn't being treated by an endocrinologist. Her previous
endocrinologist bowed out when she entered the hospital. She entered the
hospital because of the Sweet's syndrome symptoms (skin lesions).

I've looked through the last two years of Medline and didn't find an
abstract mentioning a correlation between thyroid and Sweets. .

I checked a handbook which said that Sweet's was associated with leukemia.

I'd like a reccomndation for experts who are in New York City or who travel
to New York City. For the sweets and perhaps for the endocrinology.

Any information that might help. Apparently there hasn't been much
improvement in her condition over the past several months.


Hi:

I need some advice (opinions?) regarding which PC would best suit my needs!
I want to use this (proposed) beast for basically four things:

     -	Editing documents using WordPerfect 5.1 (under dos)

     -	Creating graphs/analyzing data using Sigmaplot V5.0 (under dos)

     -	Editing/playing with images using Aldus PhotoStyler, running under
	Windows 3.1 - these images can be large, say 2k x 2k, 24bits/pixel

     -	Using the PC as an Xterminal, running DesqView/X 1.1 and Sun PC-NFS,
	talking to our network of Sparcstation's - this is where a lot of
	the images/data come from, and is the most demanding of these tasks.

I've read, read, read PC magazines, performed benchmarks, read this newsgroup,
and decided that a "nice" system (price/performance) would be:

	486DX-50 256k cache, ISA, VLB, 16meg ram
	ATI Graphics Ultra Pro, 2 meg ram, local bus
	15" monitor, 1280x1024 NI
	3Com Etherlink III 16bit
	Maxtor 240MB IDE hard drive

However, the parts don't fit!  Our local retailer apparently put one of these
together, only to discover that the ATI card wouldn't run at 50MHz - surprise
surprise.  Actually, after reading this group, I'm surprised that they even
have a 50MHz local bus running...

I have a choice now between basically the above system but with a
486DX2-66 with ISA and VLB,  or,   a 486DX-50 with EISA and no VLB (and thus
the non-local bus version of the ATI card).  Which is better, keeping in mind
that I'm primarily interested in the last two tasks?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!  (I need to decide quickly, so any
speedy help would be appreciated even more!!)

BTW: We have a system now to perform these tasks, it has the following
configuration:

	486DX-33 64k cache, ISA, 8 meg ram
	ATI Graphics Ultra+, 2 meg ram
	14" monitor, 1024x768 NI
	SMC Ethercard 8 bit
	Maxtor 120MB IDE hard drive

We're quite happy with the ATI card - very fast, ONCE the data gets to it!!
~Slow~ repainting images under PhotoStyler that have moved off screen, or
been uncovered!

There doesn't seem to be enough raw cpu when running DesqView/X!  Its sluggish
running the local window manager.  Also, many functions under PhotoStyler take
a long time (even when the images fit entirely in ram).

There's not enough memory in the system - DesqView/X and a 1 meg SmartDrive
don't leave much room for other apps.  Photostyler will page to disk with
medium size images.

I have performed a number of benchmarks on the ethernet transfer rates.  This
machine sustains only 120k/sec over ethernet while our Sparcs sustain 600k/sec
on the same network.  Going to the 16 bit version of the SMC card increases
transfer rates to 160k/sec - still very slow (especially when moving large
images).  Is there such a thing as a local-bus ethernet card coming??  Will it
make a difference?  I'm hoping so, and leaning towards the 486DX2-66 choice
(above), for that reason.

Also, are there DX2-100's on the horizon?  What about DX3-99's?  DX3-150's ???!

Any information is greatly appreciated.


: Ok, a few days back, the below-included message was posted stating:
:
: >     I believe with everything in my heart that on May 3, 1993, the city of
: >Portland, Oregon in the country of the United States of America will be hit
: >with a catastrophic and disastrous earthquake...
:
: By now, we know that this did not come to pass....
:
: ...I don't think it's particularly
: glorifying to God to say things like "Well, I THINK the Lord is telling me...",
: ..Such statements seem to me to be an attempt to get a spiritual thrill should
: the guess happen to come true, without risking the guilt of false prophecy
: should it fail to come to pass.  I do not believe genuine prophecy was ever
: like this.  Comments?
:

I agree.   People should not be misled to believe "thus sayeth the Lord" by
innuendo or opinion or speculation.

Speak directly.  If the Lord has given you something to say, say it.
But, before I declare "thus sayeth the Lord", I'd better know for certain
without a shadow of a doubt that I am in the correct spiritual condition
and relationship with the Lord to receive such a prophecy and be absolutely
certain, again, without the tiniest shadow of a doubt that there is no
possibility of my being misled by my own imaginations or by my hope of gaining
recognition or of being misled by the wiles of the devil and his followers.

Mistakes in this area are costly and dangerous.  For me, my greatest fears
in this area would be the following:

1--that the people would be misled
2--that people would lose respect for christianity
3--that true prophecy would be clouded by all the false prophecies
4--were God to call me to be a prophet and I were to misrepresent God's Word,
   my calling would be lost forever.  God's Word would command the people
   never to listen to or fear my words as I would be a false prophet.  My
   bridges would be burnt forever.  Perhaps I could repent and be saved, but
   I could never again be a prophet of God.

In the light of this, it is critical that we speak when the Lord says speak
and that we be silent when the Lord says to be silent lest we deprive the
world of God's Word and hide it under a bushel either by our inappropriate,
cowardly silence or by our false statements.  And because of this, it
is critically important that we remain close to the Lord, in His Word, and
in prayer, and filled with the Spirit of God so that we know the difference.

In this day and age, sinners spout off their mouths left and right judging
one another, claiming "rights" that are not theirs, denying rights that do
indeed belong to others, demanding equal respect for all the "gods" of this
world, and uttering every form of falseness that promises to make one feel
good.

It's time that we christians give an example of honesty that stands out in
contrast against this backdrop of falsehood.  When we say, "thus sayeth the
Lord", it happens.  When we pray, prayer is answered because we prayed right.
When we say we're christians, we really mean it.

           Dan

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
	"I deplore the horrible crime of child murder...
	 We want prevention, not merely punishment.
	 We must reach the root of the evil...
	 It is practiced by those whose inmost souls revolt
	 from the dreadful deed...
	 No mater what the motive, love of ease,
		or a desire to save from suffering the unborn innocent,
		the woman is awfully guilty who commits the deed...
	 but oh! thrice guilty is he who drove her
		to the desperation which impelled her to the crime."


Turkish Genocide Apology in revision <9304261646@zuma.UUCP> posted via its

[fool] Thanks to those who joined millions of Turkish and Kurdish people
[fool] on April 23, 1993 when they remembered, mourned and prayed for 2.5
[fool] million Muslim people who were ruthlessly exterminated by the fascist
[fool] x-Soviet Armenian Government between 1914 and 1920.

I tend to doubt this for there was no ex-Soviet Armenian government between
1914 and 1920! Revisionist, liar, AND fool!


*** On 04-21-93  04:30, Michael Shapiro had the unmitigated gall to say this:

 MS> The DOS system date has a twenty-four hour clock and a rollover bit.
 MS> When the system crosses midnight, the rollover bit is turned on.
 MS> Subsequent reads of the time add one.  There's no change possible

 MS> (This information was current up through DOS 3.3.  I've not checked to
 MS> see whether it applies to later versions.)

Just a small tidbit: with the advent of DOS 3.3 and later versions, MS added
a small "feature" to the DOS time function.  If a program sets the DOS clock
via DOS system services, then DOS will set the BIOS clock to the same value.
This breaks the isolation between the two clocks that used to ensure that
errors in the DOS clock did not bleed over into the BIOS clock.

Sometimes the Microsoft people just don't think! :)

... Fact:  Mickey Mouse wears a Al Gore wristwatch.
--- Blue Wave/QWK v2.10


Well, it depends on what kind of locking lugnuts you have.  My previous
car had locking lugnuts that weighed about 2.5oz. more than the others.
The locking lugnuts were factory equipment, and according to the factory
service manual, after tire balancing the technician/mechanic was
supposed to put a 1/2 oz. counterweight on the rim opposite the locking
nut.  I always had vibration problems with those stupid lugnuts since no
one ever did the service correctly. I eventually got rid of the locking
lugnuts and replaced them with the standard lugnuts.  Unfortunately, I
found out about the counterweighting technique 6 months after I got rid
of the locking nuts. :-(

My present car, a Saturn SC, has locking lugnuts that I bought at the
dealer and are made specifically for the Saturn.  They have been made to
be exactly the same weight as the non-locking lugnuts (said so on the
package and I verified it myself).  I haven't had any vibration problems
with the tires at all (due to the nuts) in 12,000 of ownership.  I did
have some other vibration problems, but it was due to a poor job of tire
balancing.


Dos 5 never used the area $E000 - $EFFF, as well as some others. If you have
any cards that use this are (such as a LAN card), you might get this
problem.


Interesting idea.
Regular televeision seems to do this sort of thing too with politically correct
shows.


Xm++/CommonInteract    Another User Interface Development System
-------------------

If you would like to implement X-Toolkit applications with C++ in a style
like this...

// mini sample application /////////////////////////////////////

class Test : public XmWindow {
	void cmd(char*);
	void quit(void*);
public:
    Test() : XmWindow("Xm++ Test Window") {}

	void initialize();
};

void Test::initialize() {
    XmDropdownMenu* menu = createDropdownMenu();

    menu->addLabel("&File");
    menu->addItems( Entry("Menu Item &One", CB(Test::cmd)),
                    Entry("Menu Item &Two", CB(Test::cmd)),
                    NULLENTRY);
    menu->addSeparator();
    menu->addItem(	Entry("E&xit", CB(Test::quit)));

    addSubpane(Edit, "myEdit");
    edit("myEdit")->setText("Hello World.");
}

void Test::cmd(char* n) {
	edit("myEdit")->setText(n);
}

void Test::quit(void*) {
	exit(0);
}

void XmApp::initialize() {
    (new Test)->initialize();
}

///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

...then continue reading (contents of the current release's README):

Xm++ is a user interface framework for the C++ language built upon X11
and the X-Toolkit. It is designed to be a simple and intuitive programming
interface to access the functionality of commonly used widgets.
Xm++ was initially created for the Motif widget set, now support for the
Athena widgets was added. Applications created with Xm++ run in both
environments without changes, although many nice features are only
available when using Motif.
In some situations Xm++ extends the underlying toolkit (i.e. providing
a ComboBox borrowed from MS-Windows), but never tries to replace it -
data of user interface objects is left to the widgets and only duplicated
in rare cases.

Xm++ has nothing common with Motif++ besides the general idea to
encapsulate Motif widgets in C++ objects and the '++' in it's name. Many
ideas for the Xm++ architecture came from Digitalk's Smalltalk version,
which provides an easy to use framework for Windows/PM/Mac applications
(in the very first time of development I used the Windows dialog editor and
a simple parser to create similar Smalltalk and Xm++ dialogs :-).

Top level objects in Xm++:
* 'Windows', 'SystemDialogs' and 'ToolBoxes' which use the automatic layout
  feature of various composite widgets in Motif and Xaw
* 'UserDialogs' which can be individually laid out with a user interface
  builder (a first version of such a dialog editor is included in this
  distribution)

Controls (children of top level objects):
'staticText', 'staticImage', 'pushButton', 'checkBox', 'radioButton',
'edit', 'listBox', 'comboBox', 'groupBox', 'paneArea', 'drawing', 'toolBar'

The staticImage and all the button classes can display b/w (X-bitmap
format) or color (GIF format) pictures as an alternative to a label text.

Event handling is done by a simple but powerful mechanism which redirects
Xt callbacks to member functions of Xm++ objects.

CommonInteract(II) is built upon the Xm++ drawing class and provides
components for building direct manipulative applications. Is is a very
simplified implementation of some features from the CommonInteract system
(research project of our institute in 1991), an approach to define a
software achitecture for implementing direct manipulative applications
with multiple interaction media (i.e. sound, alternative input devices).
If you are interrested, look into the June 1993 issue of the JOOP (SIGS
Publications - Journal of Object Oriented Programming) - there should be
our paper about CommonInteract (but be aware, that it is our 'state of
the art' from 1991).
CommonInteract(II) is still undocumented and is included because it was
used to implement the dialog editor. It currently supports only drawing
primitives (lines, rectangles, circles...), but we plan to extend it to
support bitmaps and some controls also.
Known problem: the Xm++ drawing class has no redrawing strategy (always
redraws the whole window, even after minimal changes like selecting an
object), this looks very ugly on slow displays and should be fixed.

About this first release:

Xm++ is still incomplete and has a lot of bugs but we are using it here
for smaller applications which are running without problems. So I think
I can call it a 'beta release' which can be used to develop applications
for any non-critical purposes.
CommonInteract may be called a 'pre alpha release'. It's development will
be continued this year because we plan to use it for another research
project here. Besides incompleteness and the redrawing problem it seems
to be stable and can be used for experimental applications.

Platforms: this release was compiled and tested on:
  HP9000/720 running HP-UX 8.07
  SUN SPARC running SunOS Release 4.1.1
  PC-AT386 running Linux v0.99pl6

Caution: although the whole stuff was initially developed using an AT&T
standard C++ compiler - this release is tested only with GNU g++ 2.3.3 or
above (the next release will be tested with both compilers).

Where to get it:
================

I have uploaded it on: export.lcs.mit.edu as: /contrib/Xm++.0.5.tar.Z

(send a mail, if you cannot find it there, e-mail addr. below)

Where to find more information:
===============================

the .../doc directory contains
   INSTALL - how to build the libraries and examples
   README.GNU - problems and limitations when using gnu g++ (read!!)
   usersGuide.txt - a tutorial how to use Xm++
   reference.txt - a first try of a Xm++ class reference manual

the README files in the .../samples gives a brief description of
each of the seven samples.

Xm++/CommonInteract is free software for any non-profit purposes,
see the file .../lib/COPYRIGHT for details.

Send any comments, bug reports and donations :-) to the Author:

    Bernhard Strassl
    Vienna User Interface Group
	Institute for Applied Computer Science and Information Systems
    University of Vienna
    Lenaugasse 2/8, A-1080 Wien, Austria


Here is a press release from Medical Science Communications.

 Results of GUSTO Heart Attack Study to be Released Friday
 To: Assignment Desk, Medical Writer
 Contact: Jim Augustine of Medical Science Communication,
          703-644-6824, or Steve Hull or Tracy Furey,
          800-477-9626 or April 29-30, 202-393-2000 or
          202-662-7592 (J.W. Marriott)

   News Advisory:

   Results of the largest heart attack study ever undertaken,
the Global Utilization of Streptokinase and t-PA for Occluded
Coronary Arteries trial (GUSTO), will be presented Friday, April
30, at the Clinical Research Meeting.
   A press conference will be held at 12:30 p.m.
   GUSTO evaluates the most aggressive emergency-room treatment
strategies available to clear blocked heart arteries and restore
blood flow to the heart, a process called thrombolysis.  The
thrombolytic strategies compared in GUSTO use powerful drugs to break
up blood clots in heart vessels quickly and prevent clots from
recurring.  These strategies have never been compared directly in a
large-scale clinical trial until GUSTO.  The results are expected to
have an important impact on heart attack treatment worldwide.
   The press conference will be held at two locations: live at the
National Press Club, Main Lounge, 13th Floor, 529 14th St., N.W.,
Washington D.C., and via satellite at The Hotel Macklowe, 145 W. 44th
Street, 4th Floor, New York City, between Broadway and 6th Avenue.
   GUSTO results will be presented by Eric Topol M.D., GUSTO Study
Chairman, professor and chairman of the Department of Cardiology at
The Cleveland Clinic Foundation; Robert Califf, M.D., clinical
director, GUSTO Coordinating Center and Associate Professor of
Medicine at Duke University Medical Center; and Allan Ross, M.D.,
coordinator of the GUSTO Angiographic Substudy and professor and
director of the Division of Cardiology at The George Washington
University Medical Center.
    ------
   Editorial Notes/Attention television: The press conference may be
viewed in its entirety via satellite starting at 12:30 p.m. (EDT)
C-band Telestar 302, Transponder 2V (dual audio 6.2, 6.8) or KUSBS6,
Transponder 8.  Following the press conference, there will be a news
package and b-roll feed.  Camera-ready illustrations also will be
available at the press conference.
   Telephone hook up to the press conference is planned.
Availability is limited; please call MCS for more information.
   For reporters who will be at the Sheraton Washington attending the
Clinical Research Meeting on Friday morning, minibus transportation
will be provided to the press conference.  The bus will depart at
12 p.m.; it also will be available for return to the Sheraton
after the press conference.
   For more information, contact Steve Hull or Tracy Furey of MCS,
for the GUSTO Study Group, at 800-477-9626; or at the J.W. Marriott
April 29 to April 30 at 202-393-2000 or 202-662-7592.  For more
information about the Clinical Research Meeting, contact Jim
Augustine of Medical Science Communications at 703-644-6824.

 -30-


When will I be able to call my favorite mail order software shop and buy
NT?


Do you mean a prog. that doesn't jump to the DOS display and then back or
create a temp. DOS window?

If yes then I might recommend WinZip from ftp.cica.indiana.edu.  I'm afraid
I don't have the file name or version but you should be able to find it.

It's fully compatible with ver. 2.04g and very functional.

Later,

Phil Trodwell


gee.... is it 1999 already?

Yes, it will still be on the fox program chasis, anything that will be different
on the new car as far as mechanical's is unknown. The suspension will most
likely be changed, as well as the drive drain. From what has been printed on
it, there is no clear idea of what will be done, as some say it will have
the modular V8 and others the current small block... just have to wait and see
Also is far as styling goes from what I seen is good, a return to tradition.
C scoop on the sides and roof line much like a '65 or '66 fastback.


I have not made up my mind about Waco, but there sure seems to be a group of
devoted government following fanatics willing to believe whatever that
government wants to tell them, without any shred of doubt, nor thought of thier
own.  They sure get shrill whenever their belief structure is being shaken.

Kinda reminds you of the BDs, doesn't it?

Jim
--
jmd@handheld.com


& >I'm not familiar with the trannies used in Winston Cup, but in the trans-am
& >cars I've played with the  transmissions were the racing variety, with
& >dog clutches instead of sychros.  In a transmission with dog clutches, the
& >gears are always  engaged with each other and moving the dog clutches
& >engages the gears to the shafts.  Motorcycle transmissions are the same way.
& >Shifting without the clutch on a transmission with syncros can and will cause
& >transmission damage, the only question being how long it  takesto grenade
& >something (for the trans in my 87  Pulsar SE, it was  about 3-5k miles, but
& >it had a weak  tranny in the first place).
&
& just out of curiosity, how is this "dog clutch" any different from a synchro
& transmission.  What you described SOUNDS the same to me.  In fact, what little
& i've studied on trannies, the instructor referred to the synchros as "dogs"
& and said they were synonymous.  The gears are always meshed in a synchronized
& gearbox, and you slip the synchro gears back and forth by shifting. Or at least,
& that is what i was taught.  Explain, por favour?

Motorcycle transmissions don't have synchros.  The engagment dogs are very
corse and sloppy.  There are maybe 6-10 teeth (dogs) on the side of the
gears that engage the next gear over as the forks slide the gears back
and forth.  To shift:  start to apply pressure at the same time the
clutch is pulled (the clutch is a hand lever) and shift quickly.  If
you try a slow lazy shift it will grind, you just have to pop it into
the next gear before it has a chance to grind.  There isn't a neutral
between gears (obviously there is, but you can't select it with the
shifter) so double clutching is not a possibility.  "speed shifting"
(which is what I have always heard "clutchless shifting" called) works
pretty well for upshifts with some practice, but I usually use the
clutch-especially for the lower gears.

I think auto (as in automobile) trannys are similar, except that the
engagment dogs are very fine, with no slop.  And the addition of
syncho rings.  The gear teeth are always engaged in auto transmissions
that are synchronized, but may not be in non-synchro gears (reverse
and sometimes first).


I certainly like this "Option C"...  It's much more like the original
Phase B studies from the early 1970's.  Good stuff!


--

The GT was based on the Kadette chassis. It was built model years 1969-1973.
The Manta came out in the 1974 model year and was a 4 seat coupe.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Matthew R. Singer                                    MIT Lincoln Laboratory
(617) 981-3771                                       244 Wood Street
singer@ll.mit.edu                                    Lexington, MA 02173


 > I would rather spend an eternity in Hell than be beside God in
 > Heaven knowing that even one man would spend his "eternal life"
 > being scorched for his wrongdoings....

Stephen, I suspect that when you and I use the word "Hell," we have
different concepts in mind. When you encounter references to Heaven
in terms of crowns and harps and golden streets, I trust that you do
not suppose (or suspect Christians of supposing) that the golden
streets are to be taken literally, still less that they are what the
concept of Heaven is all about. Why then should you suppose that
about the "fires" of Hell?
     Have you read the novel ATLAS SHRUGGED? Do you remember the
last description of James Taggart, sitting on the floor beside the
Ferris Persuader? This comes close to a description of what is meant
by Hell in my circles. If the image of fire is often used in this
connection, there are two reasons that occur to me.
     The first reason is that it conveys the idea of Hell as
something that any rational being would earnestly wish to avoid (as
any rational being would wish to avoid the fate of James Taggart --
but the latter image is meaningful only to those who have read ATLAS
SHRUGGED, a smaller audience than those who have played with
matches).
     The second reason is the history of the Hebrew word "Gehenna,"
one of the words translated "Hell" in the New Testament. It refers
to the valley of Hinnon, outside Jerusalem. In early days, it was a
place where the Canaanites offered human sacrifices (burned alive)
to Molech. Later, it was made a garbage or refuse dump, where fires
burned continually, consuming the trash of the city of Jerusalem.
"To be cast into Gehenna" or "to burn in Gehenna" thus became a
metaphor for "to be rejected or discarded as worthless."

Lest you think that identifying Hell with the fate of James Taggart
is my own private fancy, I commend to you the book THE GREAT
DIVORCE, by C S Lewis. It discusses Heaven (no harps) and Hell (no
flames). It is shorter than ATLAS SHRUGGED, and available at most
bookstores and libraries.


Absolutely not.  I went through a "journey" of lukewarm Christianity,
agnosticism, atheism, agnosticism, and now (although I know my faith
is less than what it should be) Christianity again.  I think it's a path
many of us take.


	Yup.  Radar detectors that detect Ka band will pick up photo radar
as it's reflected from some poor slob ahead of you that just got nailed.

	BTW, many photo radar installations in the southern U.S. became
targets for high-powered rifles, or had their lenses "decorated" with cow
flop, etc.  Not that I'm advocating destruction of public property, but you
get the picture....

Later,


In some hobby shop, they sell a flexible tube (1/4-inch diameter,
18-inch ling) that will illuminate if you bend or shake it (it
is also sold in amusement parks in the evenings). The brightness
can last 2 to 4 hours. If it is left in refrigrator (in coldness),
you can prolong its life of illumination.


You should wear your nicest boxer shorts and bring plenty of SPF 45+
sunscreen.  I'll grab my bathing suit, towerl and some veggie hotdogs and we
can have bonfire cookout!!
Does that sound good enough to you, Dean?
EVERY a.a poster is invited!!!


I'm running HP-UX 8.07 with HP VUE 2.01 and I need a hardcopy of
  the login window (the one asking  for login and password) to
  include in a manual.
  I have tried:
   xwd -display hostname:0 -root -out login.xwd

  from a login on a remote terminal, but it doesn't work.
  Xwd seems to wait for the window server, but the window
  server doesn't answer.

  Any suggestions? I must use xwd because I don't have access to
  ftp and I can't obtain another program to grab the screen.

  Thanks in advance
                                           Nadia Pitacco

--


Does anyone know if there are any problems (or if it's possible)
adding a third hard drive(scsi) to a dos pc.

I currently have a 386 pc with  Future Domain scsi board  and  2
Maxtor  scsi  drives  installed.  They work great, I haven't had
any problems!

Well, now I want more disk space and went out and  got   another
(larger)  scsi   hard  disk  thinking all I had to do was add it
to the chain(50pin ribbon  that  has  3  connectors)   and   run
the   fdisk   program   to format/initialize the disk.

That didn't happen.  When the pc boots, the  scsi  prom   shoots
back   the  devices   that   are  attached  to  the board[target
0/target1/target2].  All three disks are seen.

When I run the dos fdisk program to format the disk, I choose to
select another  disk(option  5(dos6)) and voila, it's not there.
The first two disks show up no problem, but the  third  disk  is
no-where to be found....

ARGH!

Ideas anyone?????

Thanks in advance!

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well, IMHO (and i am just a nobody net.user) henry spencer is to
sci.* as kibo is to alt.* and rec.*....

....but i could be wrong...(did anybody mention the illuminati)

kitten
--


When I have trouble it's usually because of water trapped by some
remaining wax.  I don't see why you can't just let it evaporate; it
should do this eventually.


But in this case I said I hoped that BCCI was *not* an Islamic bank.

But in this case I said I hoped that BCCI was *not* an Islamic bank.

But in this case I said I hoped that BCCI was *not* an Islamic bank.


I guess he is right. Early versions of the RasterOps cards did not either,
but they fixed it, and people with problems can get a free ROM upgrade
from RasterOps.

Very easy. If you boot without the MODE32 control panel, then it will
disable (or rather not reinstall) the 32-bit clean patches. So when
you run OK you must be in 24-bit adressing mode. Check About this Macintosh
and see if you havce a 12+MB system.

sent seperately.


Oh, Bill, you are so full of shit.  That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

ObMOTO:  I happened to miss the discussion of deltabox frames, if there was
one, because I actually needed to get some work done last week.  So if anybody
would care to repeat what got said (since I was the guy who asked, and I'm
still ignorant) could you email me?  Thanks.


  Well I think whenever ESPN covers the game they do a wonderful job. But
   what I don't understand is that they cut the OT just show some stupid
   baseball news which is not important at all. Then I waited for the scores
   to comeon Sportscenter, but they talk about Baseball, basketball and
   football. Then they showed Penguine highlight and went back to stupid
   basketball. Finally they showed a highlight of the OT goal but that
   was like 30 sec. I think they should give more attention to NHl during
   the playoffs then talking about boring basketball games..

   I guess it is NHL's fault too for leaving ESPN. Hope things improve
   by next season...

   COBRA

--


<forgot to leave in his quote source>
: >What happened in Waco is not the fault of the BATF. If they would of
: >had the proper equipment and personal then they could of captured the
: >compound on the initial assault and none of this would of happened.
The BATF is a part of the dept. of treasury, not justice.  If they needed
to assault a place they could just do like the IRS does...call in the
federal marshalls service, their fugitive collection teams do similar type
assaults all the time.  And they are very, very good about it, in both the
tactical and legal parts of it.  But I suspect that the marshalls would
not have touched it, because the search warrant (which is still sealed I
believe) was so bogus.

Besides the BATF also could have gotton SWAT teams from: federal marshalls
service; FBI; secret service; national park service; texas rangers; nearby
large city police forces; the military.  But they had to use their own
guys, nobody elses SWAT team was good enough for the holy cause of gun
control.

	I also find the timing of the raid to be extremely interesting.
Initial raid: two days before the NJ senate was going to overturn their
"assault weapon" confiscation law; a couple weeks before the BATF's budget
was going to come up in congress for review;  shortly after Reno got
confirmed as AG (I don't need to remind you about her anti-gun line);
right around the presidents 100th day in office.   As a wise man once
action.    I don't believe that these four things are conincidental.  Do
you?

food for thought...


>politicians as deadly tax weapons needing to be confiscated!) If they are


[reply to roxannen@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.u]

I just got back from the American Academy of Neurology annual meeting,
where the consensus was that sumatriptan (Imitrex) has no advantages
over DHE-45 nasal spray, which is much less expensive, has fewer side
effects, is as effective, and works more quickly (5-10 minutes vs. 30).
Besides, who wants to give themselves a shot (sumatriptan) when a nasal
spray works?  DHE nasal spray is not widely available yet -- it has to
be mail ordered from one of a few pharmacies in the country -- but most
neurologists now know about it and know how to order it.


I'm asking for help on a sticky problem involving unreasonably low
apparent precision in Z-buffering, that I've encountered in 2 different
PEX implementations.  I can't find any discussion of this problem in any
resources I can lay hands on (e.g. the comp.windows.x.pex FAQ, Gaskins's
_PEXlib_Programming_Manual_, vendors' documentation).

I'm posting this article by itself on comp.graphics, and virtually the
same article with a test program demonstrating the problem on
comp.windows.x.pex.  The problem is hard to describe without pictures,
hence this article is longish.  If you can run PEXlib 5.x programs and
are interested, I encourage you to build and run the test program in
comp.windows.x.pex to see the effect yourself and play with my approach
to dealing with it.  (It depends on the utility code from the above
Gaskins book; instructions for fetching it via anonymous FTP are given.)

The problem to be solved is to eliminate or minimize "stitching"
artifacts resulting from the use of Z-buffering with polylines that are
coplanar with filled areas.  The interpolated Z values along a line will
differ slightly, due to roundoff error, from the interpolated Z values
across an area, even when the endpoints of the line are coincident with
vertices of the area.  Because of this, it's a tossup whether the
Z-buffer will allow the line pixels or the area pixels to be displayed.
Visually, the result tends to be a dashed-line effect even though the
line is supposed to be solid.

Using the PEXlib API, my approach to a solution is to use two slightly
different PEX view mapping transforms, in two view table entries, one
for the areas and one for the lines.  The PEX structures or immediate-
mode output must be organized so that one view table index is always in
effect for areas, and the other is always in effect for lines.  The
result is a slight shift in NPC Z coordinates for the lines, so as to
attempt to bias the tossup situations in favor of the lines.

This shift is effected by moving the front and back clipping planes used
in the PEXlib view table entry for lines just a hair "backwards" (i.e.
smaller VRC Z coordinates), compared to their positions in the view
table entry used for areas.  This means that when a point is transformed
to NPC, its Z value will be slightly bigger if it comes from a line than
if it comes from an area, thus accomplishing the desired bias.

I would expect the Z roundoff errors which cause the problem to amount
to a few units at most, out of the entire dynamic range of the Z-buffer,
typically from 0 to 65535 if not 16777215 (i.e. 16 or 24 bit Z-buffers).
Therefore, it seems that a tiny fraction of the range of Z in VRC
between the front and back clip planes ought to suffice to reliably fix
the stitching.

But in fact, experience shows that the shift has to be as much as 0.003
to 0.006 of the range.  (Empirically, it's worst when the NPC Z
component of the slope of the surface is high, i.e. when it appears more
or less edge-on to the viewer.)  It's as if only 8 or 9 bits of the
Z-buffer have any dependable meaning!  This amount is so great that one
problem is replaced by another: sometimes the polylines "show through"
areas which they are supposed to lie behind.

I've observed the problem on both Hewlett-Packard and Digital
workstation PEX servers, to approximately the same degree.  The test
program demonstrates the problem on an MIT PEXlib 5.x implementation;
this version is known to compile and run on an HP-UX system with PEX
5.1.

Open questions:
    (1) Why does this happen?
        --  Am I configuring the PEX view table wrongly?
        --  Is there a systematic difference in Z interpolation for lines
            as opposed to areas (e.g. pixel centers versus corners) which
            could be corrected for?
        --  Are PEX implementors wantonly discarding Z precision in their
            interpolators?
        --  Something else?
    (2) What to do about it?
        --  Can I fix my use of the view table to allow better precision
            in Z-buffered HLHSR?
        --  Is there another approach I can take to remove the stitching
            artifacts?
        --  Am I just out of luck?

Any help would be immensely appreciated!


Aw, gee, and whose fault is THAT?

Dear, dear.  They could have COME OUT.

Dear, dear.  They could have COME OUT.

 The gas began filling the air,

It couldn't have gotten too heavy with all that wind blowing through.

Scattered throughout the house, the cult members made no efforts to

Sad, but they COULD HAVE COME OUT.


Proof positive that some people are beyond satire.


I need some information on the implications of receiving
cortisone shots for a seasonal allergic condition.


Nova Mob |Last Days of Pompeii|$8 ppd.
Overwhelming Colorfast |Overwhelming Colorfast|$8 ppd.
Teenage Fanclub |Bandwagonesque|$9 ppd.
Tin Machine |Tin Machine II|$9 ppd.
Various |Teriyaki Asthma I-V Comp.|$9.50 ppd.

Rob


HB 1776 is for Concealed Carry in Texas.  It provides for licensing
citizens to carry concealed firearms if they pass an instruction
course (30 hours, if I remember correctly), pay a $140 fee (good for
4 years), and meet several other criteria related to personal
character, etc.

While I don't agree with all of the criteria, I feel it's high time
that pro-gun types fight the same way HCI et al. do -- by getting
incremental changes in the law.

Daryl


Scientific American had a nice short article on the history of the
hypodermic about 10 or 15 years ago.  Prior to liquid injectables,
there were paddle-like needles used to implant a tiny pill under the
skin.


Can anybody out there provide me with any advice concerning the
following two health problems:

First, I was recently diagnosed (using a UGI series) as having a
Schatzki ring and small sliding hiatal hernia. As I understand it,
the hernia is a relatively minor problem, though I do occasionally
have some nasty heartburn that is probably related to it. The Schatzki
ring, on the other hand, is causing swallowing difficulty. In particular,
if I'm not careful about eating slowly, and thoroughly chewing food,
food occasionally gets "stuck" before reaching my stomach. This results
in a period of painful spasms as the food attempts to pass the obstruction.
Fortunately, the food has always managed to pass, but this is annoying,
and causes frequent discomfort.

My doctor wants to "dilate" the ring using the
following procedure: use an endoscope to examine the esophagus and stomach
for any inflammation, then cut through the ring and dilate it by passing
some kind of balloon or something thru the esophagous. I would like to know
if anyone out there has had this (or a similar) procedure done-if so,
was it painful, successful, etc. Also, can anyone  comment on
safety, advisability, and success rate of this procedure? Has it become
a common procedure? I am kind of leery of having such an invasive-sounding
procedure performed for a (currently) non-threatening condition such as this,
especially considering the possible side effects (bleeding, perforation,
reaction to anesthesia).

The second issue: for the past 3-4 years I have had a large number
of "extra" heartbeats. In particular, during the past month or so there
has been a dramatic increase-a Holter monitor recently showed 50 PVC's in 24
hrs, along with a few PAC's. (Many days, there are far more than this,
however-five to ten per hour). All of them were isolated, and the cardiologist
indicated that such a number was "normal". It certainly doesn't
feel normal. In the past there have also been a couple of episodes of
extended "runs" of these beats, one of which lasted long enough to cause
severe light-headedness. I am relatively young (30-ish), thin and in good
health (recent bloodtests were all normal), and do not smoke, use drugs or
caffeine, etc. I'm willing to accept the extra beats as "normal", but don't
want to ignore them if they might be some kind of warning symptom. The number
of PVC's seems to increase throughout the day, and with exercise (or something
as simple as climbing some stairs). Also, if I get up after sitting or lying
down for a while, I tend to get a couple of extra beats. Could they possibly
be related to the esophagous problems? Both seemed to develop at about the
same time.

Thanks for any help/advice!


Dear Anybody,

I am in Rochester, NY, where people can look at a Rangers-Penguins playoff game and
say, no joke I heard it, "Hey whats this, OH, its not even the AHL, its just
the NHL, I think."  Because of this e get Red Wings (Orioles AAA) stats and
updates but no AL or NL stats.  Specifically Im looking for Red Sox stats so
far, Id like all of them, but could handle just Greenwell and Vaughn.  CAN
ANYBODY PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!!


Could you add some information to 'Non it does not'.
Say for instance your source of information.

Thanks.

___________________________________________________________________________


Well,  you better not get the shuttle as your launch vehicle.

and most ELV's have too  far of a backlog for political messages.

If during the campaign season,  the candidates for president had
launched one,  right around now we'd  be getting a launch
for PEROT 92.

and if they had used the shuttle,  we'd be seeing launches
for NIXON now more then ever.


The sensitivity is changed using the /S, /V, or /H parameter.
The commands do the following:
/V - vertical sensitivity
/H - horizontal sensitivity
/S - both

Follow the parameter with a number from 1 to 100 (1 - slowest, 100-fastest).
The default is 50.  You can type the command "mouse /S75" right from the
keyboard or add it to autoexec.bat.


I would prefer a picture with you in it.  Since most motorcycles don't post,
and are rather similar looking (i.e all R100S's are more alike than they are
different), it is the people that are ultimately more interesting.

From archive_policy.txt:

BTW, I have Charlie Smith's pictures available.

Interestingly, I've been to Stanley, ID by motorcycle.  Nice little town,
nice road getting there.

-Bruce


	The computer itself uses far less electricity than a TV.
Monitor--depends on the size :).

	But one thing NOT to do is use a self-shutdown or power-shutdown
iron/appliance on the same electric line.

	After a new monitor and power supply and modem, my wife *still* doesn't
think her iron is at fault :(.	(She should know better, being a Bio-med
engineer :)


I'm currently trying to select which magneto-optical drive to purchase.  I'm
primarily looking at 128MB drives, although I might consider 256MB ones.

When looking through MacWorld and MacUser ads, the prices for the 128MB drives
seem to range from just under $1000 (for the DGR 128REM Portable, Magic 128MB
Portable Fujitsu, or NuDesign 128MB from MacDirect) to about $1600 (for the
FWB HammerDisk 130 and Mass Microsystems DataPak MO/128).  Different drives
use different mechanisms - MOST, Fujitsu, Sony, Epson, probably some others.

My problem is that after reading the Nov 92 MacWorld and Apr 93 MacUser
reviews of these drives, I'm still not sure what to get.  So, I'm asking
if anyone has had good/bad experiences with any 128MB M-O drive or can shed
some light on the wide range of prices (is spending more really buying me
much?), reliability of different drives, compatibility between them, or
anything else I should probably know.

Thanks.


Why don't you activist guys cut misc.invest out of this thread?
They didn't offer any shares for sale yet...


	WinZip 4.0 (ftp.cica.indiana.edu:pub/pc/win3/(util?) ). It is
a shell (it DOES call DOS ), but a very, very good one. It will also
do arc, arj and lzh. It fully supports PKZIP 2.04 . Try using it...
It might be a shell --very unobtrusive--, but that also means you dont
need to update it with every every-other-letter-of-the-alphabet version
of PKZIP... :)
Hope it helps....


Yes, I know computers and harddisk drives should be ALWAYS on. But what about
monitors? They generate a lots of heat. Should I or shouldn't I keep them on
24 hours a day? Any advice? Thanks. Take care...Paul


mlb.c is archived on the Internet Baseball Archive

anoymous ftp to eucalyptus.cc.swarthmore.edu (130.58.67.44)
you must use your full email / username id as a password

cd ./baseball/schedules

it's filed as mlb-schedule-program.c for clarity

schedules pre-generated for east-coast times are there as text files as
well, and a couple of teams' TV schedules -- please send me more TV info if
you have it on other teams.

- matt

Matt Wall * wall@cc.swarthmore.edu * Hey, I gotta job here, OK?


Actually, severe headaches due to stopped up sinuses (plugged ostia) are
possible, and sinus surgery which widens the ostia - from the normal 2
mm to about 10 mm - should relieve this.  There are non-surgical ways,
however, to keep the ostia open (however, in a few individuals, their
ostia are naturally very small), and Dr. Ivker's book talks about this.
The underlying cause of chronic sinusitis is NOT cured by this kind of
sinus surgery, though.

About asthma, that's a little more controversial.  Dr. Ivker, in his book,
"Sinus Survival", *speculates* (and says it's not proven), that many cases
of asthma are triggered by chronic sinusitis due to the excessive drainage
(postnasal drip) from the sinuses.  He's had many patients who've found
relief from asthma when the chronic sinusitis is reduced or eliminated -
not clinical proof, but compelling anecdotal information of this speculation.

Before doing any sinus surgery, first get THE BOOK - it discusses surgery,
as well as a good non-surgical treatment program for chronic sinusitis.

Jon Noring

--

Charter Member --->>>  INFJ Club.


Name            Pos   AB    H    2B    3B    HR    RBI    RS    SB    E    AVG
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Galarraga       1B    54   23     6           2     15     6     1        .426
Sheaffer         C     3    1                                             .333
Boston          OF    28    9                        3     8              .321
Cole            CF    43   13     1     1            2    13     8        .302
Hayes           3B    46   13     2           3     11     7     2    3   .283
Bichette        RF    39   10     1           3     10     8     1        .256
E. Young        2B    51   13     2     1     1      7    12     9    3   .255
Tatum           3B     8    2     1                                       .250
Murphy          OF     8    2                        2                    .250
Clark           LF    37    9     3     1     1      3     3          1   .243
Girardi          C    45   10     2     1            3     3          1   .222
Castilla        SS     7    1                                         1   .143
Benavides       SS    35    5     1                  5     3          4   .143
PITCHERS         P    24    1                              1              .042
G. Young        OF     3                                   2          1   .000
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Totals               431  112    19     4    10     61    66    21   14   .260

Name      L/R GS CG    IP     H    R    ER    K    BB    ERA    W    L    S
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Aldred     L           6      4    3     1    3     8    1.50   0    0    0
Ashby      R   2  0   11     12    3     3    5     9    2.45   0    0    0
Wayne      L           3.7    4    1     1    3     2    2.45   0    1    0
Neid       R   4  1   29     27   11    10   15    10    3.10   3    1    0
Parrett    R          10      8    4     4   12     7    3.60   0    0    0
Smith      R   3  0   16.3   22    8     8    3     5    4.41   1    2    0
Blair      R           8      9    6     4    5     3    4.50   0    0    0
Ruffin     L   2  0    9.3   15    7     5    7     6    4.82   1    1    0
Henry      L   2  0   12.7   14    9     8    5     5    5.68   0    2    0
Reed       R           3.7    8    7     7    2     3   17.18   0    0    0
Holmes     R           2.3    8   10     9    3     4   34.71   0    1    0


I'm also interested in such a program. But most of all I'd like to know
wich program is able to convert GIF or PCX to DXF !!! When I have this
program, I can scan pictures and frase (or something like that !) them.
This will be beyond the limit !!!


I haven't read this entire thread, but, if someone hasn't tossed this out yet, then here it is:

2 Samuel 12:21-23 (RSV) :

  "Then his servants said to him, `What is this thing that you have
  done? You fasted and wept for the child while it was alive; but when
  the child died, you arose and ate food.' He [David] said, 'While the
  child was still alive, I fasted and wept; for I said, 'Who knows
  whether the LORD will be gracious to me, that the child may live?' But
  now he is dead; why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall
  go to him, but he will not return to me.'"

Anyhow, many interpret this to mean that the child has gone to Heaven
(where David will someday go). I don't claim to know for sure if this
applies to all babies or not. But even if it's just this one, what
would you say to this?


SH>I'm a hockey fan from way back, and maintain an interest as best I can
  >here in the hockey hinterlands (Oklahoma).  I'm hoping I can get a
  >reading from some of you about the move of the North Stars to Dallas.

SH>I've been under the impression that Minnesota was one of, or possibly,
  >THE hockey state in the U.S.  So why is the team moving to a city in
  >Texas?  Is it that the owner is a greedy, self-serving profiteer, or
  >were the Stars really not making a profit?  Or was the city or whoever
  >owned the arena doing some price gouging?

SH>As much as I'd like to see the NHL only a 3 hour drive from me, I
  >can't help but feel for the people in Minnesota, unless they truly
  >didn't support the team.

SH>Opinions, please.

I used to work for the Stars.  Minnesota supported the team to an
extent.  When I was there, we had quite afew sellouts (This was the
season after the cup run and during the finals).  Norm's main bitch was
that there wasn't enough luxury suites.  And, the ones he had were not
always full.  He wanted more boxes and wanted them full.  He was just
asking for too much from people that could go and see other hockey games
at High Schools for $5 or college for about $10 that would probably be
better.

Mark

 þ QMPro 1.01 41-6393 þ Radioactive cats are very, very HOT!


      Perhaps I failed to make myself clear:  Minorities in the U.S.
*correlate* with poverty.  This isn't good and we should address it,
but we shouldnt' ignore that minorities and poverty *do* tend to go
together.

      *Does* Vancouver have a consistantly poor population drawn along
racial lines?  If it doesn't, then assumptions of being able to compare
minority vs. majority in both cities is questionable at best.

       If the *rate* of increase over a period of several years remains
unchanged, or increases, I think it's not a far jump to say that the laws
are not effective.  No, you can't sit down and say that things wouldn't
have been worse.  I don't have a crystal ball and neither do you.  However,
that road leads us to a place where it is impossible to critique *any*
action.  If it gets down to be, "It might have been worse without them,"
then there *is* no valid objection, which I'm sure would amuse certain
people to no end.

       So we've got a situation where we have several options:

	1)  The crime rate decreased:  Obviously gun control worked.

	2)  The crime rate remained the same:  It would have been worse
	without gun control.

	3)  The crime rate increased:  Perhaps the laws prevented an
	even bigger increase.

       Cute testing ground we've got.  All responses support the proposition
that gun control works.

       The question is this:  Did Washington D.C. experiance an increase
in its violent and/or gun crime rate which was greater than the pattern
indicated prior to the implemented gun control laws.  If it did, then
the suggestion that the problem the gun control laws were designed to
"control" did not exist in their entirety prior to the gun control laws.


Forwarded from libernet@dartmouth.edu:

Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 10:30:47 PDT
From: ald@clipper.clipper.ingr.com (Al Date)
Subject: "Clipper Chip"  --NOT!
To: libernet@Dartmouth.EDU

Clipper TM chip is a registered trademark of Intergraph Corp.

The so-called Clipper chip which was recently mentioned here
and in other media
with respect to encryption is being used in violation of that trademark.

The Intergraph Clipper chip is a Unix microprocessor, originally
developed by Fairchild Semiconductors, and has no relationship
to the encryption chip whatsoever.

I mention this here with the hope that someone reading this will
intercede before the group alt.privacy."clipper" is established.


How about letting in the press?

How about letting Koresh out to talk to the press?

Maybe if he had been allowed to talk with the press/TV for a couple of
days he would have surrendered peacefully.

How about letting the relatives of Koresh`s followers talk?

Seems to me when you isolate someone, try to send them crazy by playing
loudspeakers through the night of Tibetan chants, etc., you don`t have
much to stand on when they behave as if they are crazy.  (I`m not too
sure of their sanity to start with.)

I am VERY suspicious when the government controls all communication,
and sends the press 2 miles away.
I have a gut feeling that no-knock warrant, which is sealed, would not
stand up to scrutiny.


Make that buying a *first* bike- a new bike is not generally a good first
bike...


Me too. A tendency on the part of some people to hide their head in
the sand.

How many people do you want jailed for their convictions, for their
insistence on real privacy? Why sit by quietly while the preconditions
for a real civil war are put in place by a short-sighted government.

The terminal is mightier than the pen :)

Really? I guess you mean the U.S. revolution. How about England,
India, Mexico, France, Holland....

You are misinformed. But this whole issue is off the topic.

When the cops kick in your door for using PGP, tell them that. All
we're doing here is exercising our (so-called, rapidly narrowing)
right to free speech.

Perhaps you should talk to the government about that. Or are you a
disciple of David "The cops are our FRIENDS" Sternlight?

The implied threat of the illegalization of private crypto, the
not-so-subtle subtext of the clipper announcement, is what worries me.
I don't want my children growing up in a police state.

-Rens

**Disclaimer: all opinions herein are mine and mine alone, and do not
              necessarily represent those of any organization with
              which I may be affiliated.


	Do you remember Game 7 of the 1988 NLCS, after the Dodgers defeated
the Mets, and Ugh-a-dugh foo-boo fat stomach Tom Lasorda came running out
on to the field in celebration?  YUCK!!!!!!
	He undulated.  His arms flew up and down, keeping time with his
rolling set of 9 stomachs, which flew all around the cozy confines of
Chavez Ravine.  He oozed, like a white gastropod.  He ran.  It was a
disgusting sight.  Not only couldn't I watch my Mets in the Series, I had
to watch Fat Stomach Lasorda roll around Dodger....
	BLARGH!

	"If you like short, fat men, who grunt, curse, and spit a lot,
Whitey's certainly your man" - Former WFAN host Pete Franklin, on The White
Rat ...
	But it's true, this emphasis on the appearance of ballplayers in
tight uniforms only works if the player actually has an extraodinary
physique.  Looking at Charlie Hough's scrawny torso through those tight
white shirts just sort of makes me decide, "Hmmm, I don't want to eat lunch
today...or tomorrow...or anytime soon...".
	When Al Harazin first became Mets' GM, he was asked if he intended
to help redesign the Mets' uniforms and change their image.  In particular,
they asked him about the orange and blue racing stripe that runs down the
sides the uniforms.  He said that he's very much in favor of keeping them
because "they're sleek and they're sexy".
	Sid Fernandez, in a tight-fitting uniform, with a sleek racing
stripe to denote speed and potencty.  Mmmmmmmm...lard.
	Kevin McReynolds, diving after a fly ball.  Mmmmmmmm...Man O' War, baby!
	Pat Howell....well, never mind.  Nothing could be tight on him.
They don't make uniform sizes *that* small ... :-)


VirtualGrabKeys is not an OW resource. It belongs to
olvwm(1).


Good point, Brett.  It might merely be proof that basic health care
markets operate differently, with certain nonmarket phenomenom that
the private sector can't handle well (like armies vs. warlords). In
that respect, the effects on American society vs. Canadian/European
society might also be different.

Good point again.  Blue Cross in the U.S. is quite convoluted compared
to the Canadian and German insurance funds, which have a minimal
organization to coordinate it.  If anything, bureaucracy now needs to
be built up in Canada to combat fraud, such as Americans crossing the
border individually to use insurance cards borrowed from friends and
relatives or using phony domestic addresses, or fraud rings stealing
them in blocks.  Our private practices are now recording insurance
account numbers, both public insurance and private insurance, which
most have never bothered to do before on assumption of an honour
system.

gld


From: harelb@math.cornell.edu (misc.activism.progressive co-moderator)
Subject: F<O>CUS/HEALTH: How U.S. Compares....**PAID** Maternity leave...

F<O>CUS/HEALTH: How U.S. Compares....**PAID** Maternity leave...

===================================================================
Duration of nationally provided PAID maternity leave in weeks, 1988
===================================================================

============================================
COUNTRY          WEEKS  COUNTRY        WEEKS
============================================
United Kingdom      40  Germany           14
Finland             38  Ireland           14
Denmark             28  Japan             14
France           16 28  Spain             14
Italy               22  Netherlands       12
Norway              20  Sweden            12
Canada           17-18  Switzerland     8-12
Austria             16  United States      0
Belgium             14

Source: International Labor Organization, "Work and Family: The Child Care
Challenge," Conditions of Work Digest, vol. 7, February 1988.

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From page 11 of:

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_We're Number One, Where America Stands -- and Falls -- in the New
World Order_ by Andrew L Shapiro.

New York, May 1992, Vintage Books, a division of Random House.
$10 paperback. ISBN 0-679-73893-2
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[Transcribed by jhwoodar@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Woodard)]

    ``America is becoming a land of private greed and public squalor.
    This book is an indispensable road map through the wreckage. The
    facts it reveals will startle you. They may depress you. But
    ideally they'll fire you up to help rebuild this nation.''


:    [...]     When you and the rest of the homosexual community
: pass laws to impose your moral codes on me, by requiring me to
: hire, rent to, or otherwise associate with a homosexual against
: my will, yes, you are in my face.  Until homosexuals stop trying
: to impose their morals on me, I will be in your face about this.

Ahh, what's good for the goose is not necessarily what's good for
the gander.  You don't want homosexuals to impose their moral codes
(such diabolical ideas as equal rights) on you, yet you are willing
to impose your moral codes on them.  Do I detect a double standard?


Kelly Kisio was the captain of the Rangers when he left for San Jose.

-- Ali.


Glad to hear that the bozo managed to stop.  I've only been riding for
about two years, but here are my rules for traffic light survival:

     - I try to *never* stop just over a hill behind a car.  If I have
       to stop in such a location, I pull almost completely next to the
       car in front of me.  If I'm the only one (ie no car in front), I
       turn the bike somewhat sideways across the lane, to increase my
       visibility to any oncoming vehicle.  Make sure to keep your
       taillight visible to traffic, though. (NOTE:  My bike is bright
       white; turning sideways on a black bike might not be as beneficial.)

     - On a flat road, I stop with a bit of room ahead of me (usually
       about two or three bike lengths).  This will (hopefully) give
       me room to pull forward and to the side as a car approaches.

     - If you are the last in a line of vehicles, watch your mirrors
       *constantly!*  If you see a vehicle approaching, and can't see
       any evidence to indicate that he/she is slowing down, get out
       of the way *now!*

     - Flicker your brake light.  If I'm the last vehicle in line, I
       will pull and release the brake as a car approaches from
       behind (noticed the car by watching my mirrors, of course :-).
       I vary the speed of the flicker, hoping to make the cager notice
       that there's something in the lane ahead of him.

Now, with all that said, it's the situation where you are first in line
that I feel most defenseless.  If you're first in line, your forward escape
route is seriously limited - you can only move forward to the extent that
you don't enter the intersection.  I leave some room behind the stop line
(although around here, the #@$*! light activators are always right up
next to the stop line!), and watch the mirrors.  I *think* I've decided
that hopping off the bike might be the best way out of this situation.
Any other ideas for being first in line with no traffic directly behind
you?

-rob.


I'm looking for any information regarding Text Search Engines...  Specifically,
I'd prefer source or binaries which will run in a MS-Windows and/or UNIX
environment scanning either flat files or common DB structures...

References to PD, Shareware, or Commercial implementations welcome...

Please reply via email -- I'll summarize if desired.

Thanx !


So you think a 93 Mustang Cobra can match the performance of a new Z28??
Interesting belief!

Craig

(who neither owns, nor wants to own any GM or Ford product)


During the local Rockies broadcast the other day Don Baylor
went out to bring in a relief pitcher and a graphic came up
on the screen that it was the "so and so sponsored" pitching
change. I saw another game where the pinch hitter was sponsored.

At other times during the game Rockies announcer Duane Kuiper was
setting up the strategy that the defense might use with the expectation
that Charlie Jones would jump in and discuss the situation. But
what does Charlie do, he read's a beer advertisement and leaves
Duane hanging. Duane's strategy proved prophetic.

These examples happen over and over on radio and T.V. braodcasts
making them sometimes very boring to listen to.

I guess it's just a matter of time before a player sells his name
to  Budweiser, Nike, etc.

I don't think it will be long until we hear: "Nike Budweiser drills
it deep to left field, Chevrolet goes back, back, it's gone! The Apple
Macintoshes (formerly the Boston Red Sox) are the 1998 World Champions!!!"

Back to work,

Anthony M. Jivoin
National Center for Atmospheric Research
RSF/ATD - FL1
P.O. Box 3000
Boulder, CO 80307


It's a request to personal users; it's a requirement for commercial,
government, and institutional users.

Someone else asked whether the authors of the JPEG and TIFF software had
given permission to incorporate their code into a commercial product.  I
found the following in jpeg/README:

    We specifically permit and encourage the use of this software as the
    basis of commercial products, provided that all warranty or liability
    claims are assumed by the product vendor.

and the following in tiff/Copyright:

    Permission to use, copy, modify, distribute, and sell this software and
    its documentation for any purpose is hereby granted without fee, ...

Looks like he's OK on that account.
--
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.


Can taking the car to a car wash hurt the car's finish?

And if so, is it better to hand wash it about once a month, or just take it
to the car wash anyway?

Are detailing places worth the money?  if i do a good, careful job on washing
and waxing, is a detail place going to be worth it?

reply to my email address: pfk1@crux1.cit.cornell.edu

pk4


I have gotten X11R5 pl 23 to compile on AIX 3.2.2 using cc.
 but the server will not run. it simplys starts and a couple seconds
 later exits. no error are displayed.
 my defines for compile are
 -DSYSV -DAIXV3 -DSYSV_WAIT   -DMALLOC_0_RETURNS_NULL

   could somewhere share some light, or maybe the ibm.cf file.

 thanks.


    For your information, I checked the Library of Congress catalog,
and they list the following books by Francis Hitching:

    Earth Magic

    The Neck of the Giraffe, or Where Darwin Went Wrong

    Pendulum: the Psi Connection

    The World Atlas of Mysteries