   OK, I heard a lot of talk about the NSA's infamous control over encryption
   export through the ITAR.  Here's a question.  Say I develop this great new
   encryption system, and I want to sell my software worldwide.  The thought
   police then come in and say "This algorithm is a threat to national security.
   You will not be permitted to export it."  At this point, what kind of trouble
   could I get into if I ignored the ITAR and sold my program to international
   customers anyway?

First of all, it's not the thought police, it's the export police.
If you move overseas with your great thoughts in your head, write the software there,
and then sell it, the US Thought Police probably can't do too much about it,
though you might want to check with your lawyer first.

However, if you write the program here, and sell it to furriners,
you are now an international arms dealer and can get thrown in the
clink for *many* years, especially if they decide you'd be a good example,
and Cuban Drug Dealers and Fanatic Middle Eastern Terrorists buy your stuff.

(Definitions of "public domain" are different for ITAR purposes, so if
you've got a good enough lawyer who'll do your case for free after
they've confiscated everything you own as evidence, you might win.
But nobody wants to go first, since the stakes are _quite_ high.)


This has to be a dictionary attack.  No other attack makes sense.

This means that whoever encrypted the file just typed some password
which was a single dictionary word, and then Russell tried all the
words in the dictionary.  This isn't too implausible, especially if he
was smart and clipped the first plaintext block off the ciphertext (if
the first block doesn't decrypt then obviously the others won't
either).

Assuming one attempt a second, it takes seven hours to try all the
words in /usr/dict/words.   Not real tough.

If you want DES to be secure, you have to use RANDOM KEYS.  You can't
just type your wife's name and think "aha they'll never guess that
one!"

--
Daniel F. Boyd -- boyd@cs.buffalo.edu


So THAT'S what happened to Denny McLain.  Sad.

For those of you who are interested, another baseball pariah,
Pete Rose, has a weekday radio show on the Sports and
Entertainment national radio network.  I think it's 3-5 PM
locally, 6-8 PM on the East coast.

And actually, his on-air monologues about the baseball
business sounds a lot more reasonable and articulate
than what I hear from the Ray Knights of the world.
--
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin   "Interracial mixing encompasses a lot lot more
f67709907@ccit.arizona.edu      than mingling between G7 races." -- robohen


I have the following IBM hardware forsale

	ATI VgaWonderXl24 -  This is a great card, it supports 1024x768 256 colors, 800x600 32k colors, and 640x480 16 million colors.  I found that it also speed up windows considerably.  I'm asking $100 o.b.o. for this card.

	I also have 2 2400 baud modems.  I have Docs for both but I don't have the original boxes.  Both work fine and I'd like to get $25 each or $40 for both.


#
# > Dear Mr. Beyer:
# >
# > It is never wise to confuse "freedom of speech" with "freedom"
# > of racism and violent deragatory."
# >
# > It is unfortunate that many fail to understand this crucial
# > distinction.
#
# 	In fact, if a speach was not offensive to some, its
# protection under Freedom of speach laws would be useless. It is
# speach that some find questionable that must be protected, be
# it religiously blasphemous or inherently racist. It is only
# through civilized discourse and not scare tactics that one can
# enlighten those that one perceives to be ignorant. That is the
# idea behind freedom of expression.
# 	What you find offensive might be perceived as truth by
# some and what they might find offensive might be your belief.
# It is only through free exchange of ideas (and insults as the
# case seems to be with this channel) that one can change
# another's erring ways.That is why Jefferson said that here
# we are not afraid to "tolerate error so long as reason is left to
# combat it".

  Does this mean that YOU are volunteering to wade through the
  Mutlu/Argic deluge that comes in every day?  Some of us are
  tired of being dragged into content-free pissing contests
  with reflexive bigots.  We INTENSELY dislike being stuck between
  letting this crap pass without comment as though it were
  unremarkable and replying to it and getting sucked in again.

  Let's keep some perspective here.

  IMHO, the Josh's policy of forwarding the garbage in question,
  without comment, to the relevant sysadmin strikes a good
  balance.  The stuff was, after all, PUBLISHED on a public
  forum -- from that very site, yet.  Hardly a matter of
  confidentiality or copyright.  If the local administration
  wants to do something about it, they have that right.  If
  not, nobody's twisting their arms.


Does this need to have anything to do with disk compression? I have
experienced the same thing a couple of times myself, but *without* any disk
compression stuff installed. (For example, guess what happened when Norton
SpeedDisk once crashed during defragmenting!)

Bjorn-

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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   SINTEF Safety and Reliability  *  N-7034 Trondheim, NORWAY


	I got mine for about 7 bucks at Radio Shack.  The instructions
DO say to expose it to light for a while, but mine doesn't seem to require
very much to make it work.

	I just wish I could get a big sheet of the stuff, abouit 12" x 12"
for a reasonable price.....it isn't cheap, from what I've seen.


You, along with Mario Lemieux, must be from another planet.  The only
difference is that Lemieux comes from the one with Geo. Washington, Abe
Lincoln (and many other great men and women of this world) whereas you come
from the one with David Koresh.  Yeah, Mario is good at drawing penalties,
but wouldn't you try do something (you do claim to play) to give your team
an advantage?  I don't remember Lemieux getting any diving penalties this
year, whereas many others did.  Finally, Mario has NEVER complained about
being hit.  He knows it's part of the game; he gets back by dishing out an
even bigger hit to the same guy or just scoring a few goals (or setting
them up.)  Don't you have any compassion for a man who has gone through so
much in his life?


This inelegant device started life as a 175 watt security lamp, until
i smashed off the outer glass to liberate the nasty rays, It works a
treat, weighs a heap (due to the ballast) , and NO - i wont ship it !!
cheers
Mike.


** I am posting this for a friend **
** please respond to vaughn%sonatech@hub.ucsb.edu **

I'm working on an application where we are creating a dither pattern
and rendering it in a window by applying it to the stipple pattern
of the GC.  The following code segment almost works if the window width
is an even multiple of 8.  If it is not an even multiple it skews the
pattern towards the right.  Another problem, whether it is an even
multiple of 8 or not, is a series of vertical lines spaced 8 pixels
apart.

extern	Display	       *dpy;
extern	Window		xid;
extern	GC		gc;

extern	int	Max_X, Max_Y;		/* set in resize handler	*/

dither(pixels)

	char	*pixels;		/* dither pattern data		*/

	{
	char	*bm;			/* bitmap data			*/
	char    *bmp;
	long	 I, arraymax;

	arraymax = Max_X*Max_Y;

	bm  = (char *)malloc(arraymax);
	bmp = bm;

	for (I=j=0; I<arraymax; I++)
		{
		if (pixels[I] & DITHER_BIT)
			*bmp |=   2<<j;		/* pixel on		*/
		else
			*bmp &= ~(2<<j);	/* pixel off		*/

		if (++j > 7)
			{
			bmp++;
			j = 0;
			}
		}

	stipple = XCreateBitmapFromData(dpy, xid, bm, Max_X, Max_Y);
	free(bm);

	XClearWindow(dpy, xid);

	XSetStipple(dpy, gc, stipple);
	XSetFillStyle(dpy, gc, FillStippled);
	XFillRectangle(dpy, xid, gc, 0, 0, Max_X, Max_Y);
	XSetFillStyle(dpy, gc, FillSolid);
	}

I suspect the answer is to pad the data.


This is actually more like the stuff from Phase A and MOL....Phase B ended
with a "Power Tower" approach....


gimme a break!  you KNOW chevy'd screw that up just like that almost great
truck with the "big phat 454".  Have you ever seen the mufflers on that
thing??it's amazing it moves....(which isn't to say it's not a good idea,
but i'm quite sure chevy'd screw it up the same way)


[Some discussion about whether Elias is money grubbing deleted]

Some thoughts and facts,

1.)  Bill James is a partial owner of STATS, inc.  However he has almost
nothing to do with the day-to-day operations of the company, although he
does have significant input into the design of the books that bear his name.
(The handbook, but not the scoreboard).  To the best of my knowledge, the
only things that Bill actually writes for STATS are the predictions section
of the handbook, and the Bill James Fantasy Baseball rulebook.

2.) The debate over Elias goes way back.  Bill James' early stuff was hampered
by the fact that Elias would not give access to their stats at any price.
Project Scoresheet, and later, STATS were founded to fill this void.  You
can call STATS, and ask them for a report on just about anything in their
database, and they will provide it -- for a price, of course.  Or you could
just log into their online system and look at the data yourself.  Having
attempted to pry numbers from Elias in the past (football, not baseball), they
just don't do that.  In STATS eyes, the high ground comes from making the
information available at all.

3.)  That being said, I'm pretty dissapointed by Bill's book this year, too.
I am given to understant that it was mostly a response to the publishers
desire to have the book come out sooner than April.

Hope this makes things just a little bit clearer.

(Bias alert.  I am a former part-time employee of STATS.)


So, who is Mykotronx, Inc.?  It would be nice to know that they were
not a front company used by an intelligence or other agency of the
U.S. government.  Trusting the fox to guard the chickens, and all that.
Seems suspicious when the rest of the sources are foxes.

While we are at it, the chip design(s) should be examined and verified
against silicon to insure no trap doors or hidden protocols exist in silicon,
regardless of the security level of the encryption algorithm.  It would be a
shame if some three letter agency had the ability to interrogate my chip, when
all I'd know is that someone rang, and when I attempted to go off hook the
line went dead.  Could be even worse if the chip were intended to connect
directly to a modem.

The design examination should be done to the gate level.  Does anyone have
a good idea how to tell if there is a piggyback design on silicon?  The model
would be extra logic sharing pins with the advertised function.  Tip offs
would be circuitry that would ignore incoming data if formats or sequence
is not right.  I can think of only two ways an output pin could be used,
and its possible that might be noticed, but could be edited from the netlist.
I think the silicon itself needs to be investigated.  Imagine a design
done in two layer metalization, yet finding a third layer under the
microscope.


I am working with 24 bit RGB BMP files and need to
comvert these to 15 and 16 bit images. How do convert
24 bit images to 15 and 16 bit RGB images? Thanks!


I need to be able to cause a beep, but without using any interrupt
routines, as I cannot use the BIOS. I believe that the PIC might have
something to do with it, but I'm having troubles deciphering the
information I have on it to figure out how to program it!

	I'm programming all of this in Turbo C, if that makes any
diference at all...

	Please can anyone help me??!

Thanks,


Just taking a guess, perhaps it was that Koresh had peaceably been served
with warrants before, and he did not shoot anyone but instead went with the
police without fighting.
--
"On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Leftover Turkey!
On the second day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Turkey Casserole
    that she made from Leftover Turkey.
[days 3-4 deleted] ...  Flaming Turkey Wings! ...
   -- Pizza Hut commercial (and M*tlu/A*gic bait)


Very good point.  Is there someone out there that is working on this?
I'd offer my time to help manage/do it all myself but yaw'll are not
going to hear from me over the summer.  I'm not trying to be pushy,
and there is being progress made (re: pov mailing list).

-hed


I know you work at sun, but that's really no reason not to like fast
computers. I suspect a conspiracy here. Are you trying to drag Intel through
the mud at a con or something? I really wish you guys would make your own
computers faster instead of degrading others'. Why don't you go straight for
the top and run a pentium at 0.7 MHz while you're at it?

Seriously though; Why in the bleeding hell do you want a 386/40 to run at
25MHz?????????????

(Insert smiley where appropriate)

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Ok, I have a question... why?  Why do people copy the article, and the
only new thing they add to the post is there name?  I'm not picking on
this person, I've seen a few of these.  Is it just a mistake?  Am I
missing something?  Is it some unknown net-equette I missed somewhere?
I skip over all the quoted material, since I've already read it, and look
for the non-quoted material, and all I get is the name addition.  Is this
supposed to me "I agree", or "I second this" or what?

Sorry...


Wow! You really know how to hurt a guy. Guess I shouldn't bother watching
any more games. It's already been decided. :^)

luigi


	What I saw on TV and what you claim are two different things. The
Davidians did not start shooting until after the BATF lobbed a couple
genades in the windows and started shooting themselves.

	EASY! If you see federal agents in body armor with sub machine guns
going in throught windows, that is a No-Knock warrant. Also since the
videotape shows the BATF throwing grenades before the BD's etunred fire,
you can safely assume that they didn't ring the doorbell.

P.Vasilion,


Howdy, Netlanders:

Can you put an ISA card into an EISA slot?

Also, can you put a 8-bit PC card in an ISA
slot?

Please e-mail if possible,

Thanks ahead of time,


Argh. This is what I get for acknowledging David Sternlight's existence.

Okay, it looks like I am going to have to do the history lesson after all.

During the Vietnam war, there were a great many citizens opposed to it
who considered themselves perfectly law abiding, although Mr. Nixon and
his lackeys thought otherwise.

The Federal government had no compunction about adding "people who
are otherwise decent, law abiding and upstanding, but disagree with
us" to your nice little list. Do you think this could never happen
again?

Note that I am not speculating about what the government could do,
but discussing the sort of "observation" - including but not limited
to phone tapping - that the government put its citizens under during
a time of national tension.

Your naivete is still appalling, BTW. I mean, read what you posted again.
How are we to differentiate between Good People and Bad People? Answer:
A priori, we can't; we have to assume. Now, which way do we assume? Do
we assume a priori that a citizen is law-abiding, or rather a potential
CommunistDrugLordChildAbuserCultMessiah? One of the things that's
supposedly great about America is the freedoms enjoyed by citizens who
are presumed to be law-abiding until proven otherwise.
--


Are there any Off-Line mail readers for the net-news?  In qwk format?  It
would be really helpfull to be able to download the net news from a Vax or
mainframe and read it off-line.....

Adam Hodge


OK... quick scenario... you're at home, not bothering anybody... next thing you
know, somebody comes crashing in the upstairs window and you hear an explosion.
You see that this individual has a submachinegun, and that more similarly armed
individuals are rushing your front door.  Will you a) defend yourself and family
against this attack b) realize "oh, only the BATF would enter like that, so I
better surrender" or c) roll over and let whoever is attacking your home do
what they would like?  You have chosen a), and discover that the people you
defended yourself against are federal agents, who now are camped outside your
door waiting for you to surrender.  You have learned that they intend to
charge you with murder, and are further defaming your name, while claiming that
you can safely surrender at any time.  Then they start using psychological
warfare techniques against you, while still claiming that you can safely give up
and will receive a fair trial.  Some weeks into this standoff, you are still
holding out, when they begin a new ploy to induce your surrender, namely using
tear gas to annoy you, and ramming your home with tanks.  Yet they claim that
you can safely surrender at any time.  While you patiently wait out this latest
round of attacks, your house catches fire and the bales of hay you were using as
cover spread the fire rapidly through the house, and you try to escape through
the fortifications you had raised for your own defense and the rubble created
by the tanks.  Only 9 of your followers make it.

I am not claiming that the above scenario is accurate.  I am disagreeing with
the notion that it is their own fault for dying because they refused to
surrender to agents of the Federal government after another federal agency
committed an armed assault of their home on the basis of a flimsily concocted
search warrant.

Look at how the Texas Rangers view the BATF.  Look at the FBI statements
regarding the BATF actions.  From all apparent sources, the FBI blundered
trying to clean up the mess made by the BATF, resulting in an accidental fire
which killed most of the BD's who were still in the compound, and are now
playing CYA.  The BATF committed an illegal assault, obtained the use of
Texas NG resources with fabricated allegations, and compounded their abuses
by accusing the BD's of crimes outside their jurisdiction once they had been
held off in their assault.


Well, here goes.  After lurking for a LONG time, I'll announce myself. Yes, I'm
the enemy. The enemy that also happens to ride an "arrest me red" 90 VFR.
     Bike history:  (as if this endears me to the DoD)
     79 Honda XL 175  "High School"
     85 Kawasaki KLR 600
     84 Honda V65 Sabre "Cornering by Committee"
     88 Honda Hawk GT "Proctologists' designed this bike"
     90 VFR

 I'll entertain questions but my answers will reflect Georgia law and may not
 apply in your state.

  P.S.  Anyone got a Nomex suit for sale?


    I remember reading an article in Reader's digest many moons ago
 about a similar incident. During a minor leaque game a player neck was
 cut when the opponent he was back-checking tripped and his skakes
 flew up. In this case the victim's mask proved a hinderance since
 his face was protected and so he didn't bother with the
 usually instinctive reaction to protect his face/neck. A quick
 thinking coach saved his life by applying direct pressure and using
 snow to contract the blood vessels (from what I can remember).


As she said, the letter is addressed to Bettman.  The post (which, though
having pretty much the same content, is an entirely different entity) was
addressed to all.  When she puts the letter in the mail I doubt it will
say "To: All".  I figure she wanted to let people here see what was in it
since it is a topic that interests a lot of folks here.  That's an entirely
different purpose than sending the letter to Bettman.

Unfortunately...

The "largest computer networks in the world" phrase is a definition of
the Internet, not a group as a whole that she claims to represent.  As
for the business of whether or not it is large, it is large compared
to say, the number of folks on r.s.h. who are sending a letter to thank
him for changing the names, at least to this point.  And just for my
own curiosity I thought I'd look up the "official" definition of large
in the dictionary.  It reads:

large - 1.  having more than usual power, capacity, or scope.
        2.  exceeding most other things of like kind in quantity or size.

Now I have no idea how many letters Bettman may have gotten on the issue
or how many people may have signed them.  65 people may be up there,
thereby validating definition 2.  I would also wager that the geographical
range of signatures is quite large, which would give it a large scope.

Why would he be impressed with this unless it were "large"?

I am of course assuming that you actually agree with what you are writing
and are not simply trying to be a pain about the whole issue to hear
yourself speak.

I personally don't know whether or not I agree with the letter.  I have
very mixed emotions about it.  I like the names as they are, and don't
think they make it that difficult to learn the game, but there might be
a shred of validity to the change.


This comes up periodically, and I just don't get it. Take, for example, Mark
McGwire. He walked 90 times in 1993. If that's not a potential great example
of what you're talking about then I don't know what is. Now let's look at
what happens when McGwire doesn't walk:
  75% of the time he made an out.
  10% of the time he hit a single.
  5% of the time he hit a double.
  10% of the time he hit a homer.
Now, you're pitching against McGwire. Would you trade 20 walks for 2 homers,
1 double, 2 singles, and 15 outs? I would. Why give him the base when you
can get him out 3 times out of 4?
Then there are guys like Alex Cole, who has a career .363 OBP even
though he's never had a batting average over .300 (he did hit .300 in
227 AB in 1990) or hit a single home run. Yep, that's right, he's
*never* hit a homer in 916 AB's through the end of 1992. Who'd be
afraid to throw a strike to him?

 Mike Jones | AIX High-End Development | mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com


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 Check out all of SilverFox SoftWare's Releases.... your Amiga entertainment.


"The Villager-Quest seem like the best of the Cravan/Voyager
	copies to come along since the Mazda MPV."

I'll agree about villager but not MPV -- it's so small that I'd class
it as a SUV with an extra seat shoehorned in.  To get any rear cargo
space, you shove the back seat up against the middle seat, eliminating
*all* leg room.

Back to the Villager ...

	"Only the price is controversial."

And the use of attack belts instead of 3-point belts.  That killed it
for me.


In the part of the posting you have so helpfully deleted, I
pointed out that they used the wording from the English Bill of
Rights apparently *changing* what they understood by it, and I
asked why then should we, two hundred years later, be bound by
what Keith Allan Schneider *thinks* they understood by it.

So one cannot say "a cruel fate"?

Your prevarications are getting increasingly unconvincing, I think.


Especially the '68 Shelby-American GT-500KR (King of the Road, so named
to steal GM's planned Camaro King of the Road's thunder :-)

Some GT-40s are street legal, some aren't.

I found my Shelby-American guide. There were a grand total 126 GT-40s
built:
		GT-40 Coupes		55
		GT-40 Road Cars		31
		GT-40 Mk II		13
		GT-40 Mk IIIs		 7
		GT-40 Roadsters		 5
		Mirages			 3
		GT-40 Mk IVs		12
		   	TOTAL:	       126
		Additional uncompleted Mk IIIs	6-12

Twelve of these cars were prototypes; 48 racing coupes; 31 road coupes;
eight Mk II coupes; 4 LHD Mk IIIs; and 3 RHD Mk IIIs. The other
breakdowns follow the above list (eg, 12 were Mk IVs). The LHD/RHD
breakdown is only given on the Mk IIIs.

The prices (for those which can be bought) are around the $1 Million
mark, last I heard, with a projection of some $3.5 Million (or
thereabouts) in 2000. It was second only to some penny-ante Ferarri ;-).

Shelby won the FIA World Manufacturer's Cup with his Cobras in '65; that
was also the year that he retired them from the Shelby-American racing
team (in favor of the Ford GT program the next year). That victory
broke a 13(?) year Ferarri winning streak.

Well, there's lotsa info I could spout, but I'll refrain. Much of
this information comes from "Hot Rod" magazine's "Shelby American
Cobra/Mustang Guide," which has more info on the Shelby-American
Fords than you could _ever_ want to know.

				James


Does anyone have the player stats for games played up until
April 22,1993.


In a post of 29 April (?), considering disasters as instances of the
judgements of God in history, Andy Byler spoke of

 > the desire of the Jerusalem mob who crucified the Lord that
 > "His blood be upon us."

Vera Noyes replied (02 May),

 > I will not comment here for fear of being heavily flamed.

I invite them both (and other interested parties as well) to read my
comments on this verse of Scripture. To obtain them, send the
message GET CHOOSING BARABBAS to LISTSERV@ASUACAD.BITNET or to
LISTSERV@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU. Putting it briefly, I think that the
significance of the demands of the Jerusalem crowd has usually been
greatly misunderstood, both by Christian and by anti-Christian
readers.

 Yours,
 James Kiefer


I own a PC FanCard II, which is a slightly different beast.  It's a long card
that plugs into an 8 or 16 bit slot and contains two muffin fans.  It requires
no extra cabling.  I had a 286 that was experiencing some problems due to
heat.  The FanCard made the system run cool enough so that the problem no
longer appears.  It's supposed to keep the internal temperature in the range
of 75-95 degrees Fahrenheit.  According to the maker's (M.S. Tech)
advertisements, the US Army used a bunch of these to keep their PCs running
(w/o a/c) in Desert Storm.  I can't vouch for that.  However, I am a satisfied
customer.  And I have no other connection with the maker or the mail-order
house (Lyben  (313) 268-8100).

Hope this helps,


Or how about:
    "End light pollution now!!"

Your banner would have no effect on its subject, but my banner would.


Everyone is complaining about the debacle in Waco. It is hard to
understand all this angst. What happend there is nothing less than
what we wanted to happen. Why all the sour grapes ?

BATF was looking for a propaganda event to counteract their impending
budget cuts ... the attendance of the press at the initial big
commando raid is proof. It would have been ever so easier to grab
Koresh and his central followers as they shopped in Waco. Alas, no
propaganda value there.

The FBI screwed-up big time, all the time. They should have never allowed
the situation to drag out like that. A quick second assault, before the
BDs could decide on a strategy, would have been the better plan.

The BDs themselves were the biggest screw-ups though. They imagined
that US law and US law-enforcement had no jurisdiction within their
little 'country'. WRONG ! They had no right whatsoever to fire on
the BATF, and if they mistook their identity initially, they should
have surrendered at once when they did realize who they were. If the
BDs had a problem with the warrants, they take it to court, just like
the rest of us. If they wanted full-auto weapons, they could have
obtained the proper permits, just like the rest of us would need to
do. What they may NOT do is decide for themselves what US law applies
to themselves and which does not. They get their chance like the rest
of us - at the voting booth.

If the BATF and FBI have become latter-day Gestapo, then they have
become that way because WE have desired them to be so. We get to
vote on laws, and on the lawmakers. By our choices over the years,
we have approved the creation and form of the BATF and FBI. When
the FBI was out chasing 'pinkos', the general public didn't seem
to mind a bit of extra-constitutional activity. When the BATF is
raiding militant black organizations, we don't mind the heavy hand.
When the FBI is dicking around with the rights of potheads, the
public doesn't mind. Suddenly, when we see a bit of ourselves in
the current 'enemy' choosen by these agencies, we get all bent out
of shape. SUPRISE ! You reap what you sow.

Waco was an encapsulation of the All-American experience - religious
fanaticism, militaristic thinking and overwhelming violence. Don't
blame it on 'them', the FBI and BATF. They were just acting within
the parameters we have set over the years. We made 'them'. We ARE 'them'.


That's kind of extra work that one cannot expect the store people to do.
IMHO it would be easier if companies sell their software as cheaply as
possible AND to sell the customers detail manuals (for the brain-deads)
, quick reference books, how to do books and videos, paid support hot line
(1-900 :).  For the registered purchasers, these can be part of their package.
I have seen many books to teach people how to use DOS, WP and other software.  I
I suspect either users can't read the manuals or they don't have manuals.
Either way, there is $$$ to be made.   BTW books are quite a bit more
expensive to reproduce than a $1 disk.

With the popularity of Multitasking and pseudo multitasking systems
(eg. OS0.5, Windoze, Mack System 7), it is pretty easy to run a debugger
and figure out the protection schemes by disassembling/tracing/trapping
the application during run time.  Schemes like compressed software/
special loaders would be easy pray even to beginner hackers.

Hardware keys (unless well designed and *TOTALLY* transparent) is a
pain in the b*t.  We having using a piece of software under Windoze
that uses a hardware key.  The key interfers with the printer stuff
with other programs and often has to be unplugged for those software
to work properly.

All the hacker has to do is to remove/modify code that communicate with
the port.


First the FBI said they saw two members of the cult start the fire-and the
FBI never lies.  Second, the first started in opposite ends of the compound
at the same time and thirdly, the fire spread too quickly for it not to be
help without an accelerate.


As I've noted, you can likely get around that with a directional
sensor. Phased array systems could completely defeat this scheme.

--
Perry Metzger		pmetzger@shearson.com


One can only remap special-command keys in procomm it seems. I
would like to remap other keys too - especially "altgr 2", and
such combinations.

Anybody know a plain OR dirty way to do this?? (of cause most
people settle for remapping function keys, but I don't see
why there should be a limitation...)


In-reply-to: johnn@eskimo.com's message of 21 Apr 93 23:03:27 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Monitors - Nanao?
References: <C5uw1t.3HI@eskimo.com>
Distribution:
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I have a Nanao 17" (F560?)  on my IPX. I prefer it to my Sun 16"
trinitron at work with all those vertical jitters and the two
horizontal shadowmask thingies.

I got it from one of the folks advertising in Computer Shopper et al
for $1050 plus about $40 shipping.

I bought a cable which goes from the Sun's 13W3 connector to the
monitors 4xRGBS for about $50 from a Macintosh mailorder shop (Relax
Technologies).

I'd do it again. Happily.


hypodermic
it.
there is
me.

Looking in The Evolution of Anaesthesia by M.H. Armstrong Davison
(pub Williams & Wilkins, Baltimore 1965) I found the following
chronology:

"1853.  Charles-Gabriel Pravaz (1791-1853), inventor of the
galvanocautery, describes a glass syringe with tapered nozzle. This
syringe was intended to be used with a special trocar for injecting
ferric chloride into aneurysms, and thus to heal them by coagulation.

1853.  Alexander Wood (1817-84)  of Edinburgh invents the hypodermic
needle and adapts Pravaz's syringe for use with it."

You might also be interested to read about the experiments of Sir
Christopher Wren in 1656, described by Oldenberg & Clarck in the
Philosophical transactions of the Royal Society in 1665. Using a
sharpened quill and a pig's bladder he injected opium, wine and beer
into the veins of dogs.


There is also the question of cause and effect.
Lock a mostly straight guy up for 10 years with only guys, ask
ten years later if he has ever had sex with a guy. Closing your
eyes and pretending its a girl sucking you still counts as sex
with a guy on the survey....


[....]

Thanks Jon.  I had forgotten about the 1912 and 1927 invasions (if I had
ever learned of them.  I mean I *really* forgot!)  But I read the context
as more recent, such as when the Sandinistas were expecting an "imminent"
invasion from the U.S. which never happened.

I stand corrected.  Thanks.

I remembered this one.  This one and Bush's invasion were the two I
mentioned above.  Good ol' Teddy R.-- he knew how to get things done!

Regards,


A great many computer programmers read "Dr. Dobb's Journal".  In a recent
issue, there was a paragraph in an article that pained me greatly to read.  It

  "There's nothing wrong if Microsoft setting the standards for the computer
industry.  The industry NEEDS an IBM for the 90's."

  Where has the hacker ethic gone?  Not the "cracker" ethic, which is something
entirely different and bad, but the hacker ethic, which tells us to value the
free distribution of information and yield to the hands-on imperative?  Why is
it that people and corporations like Bill Gates, IBM, and Intel are able to
have a virtual dead lock on the computer industry?  Why is it that, if a person
like myself posts messages to Usenet on how to get into the little nooks,
crannies, and idiosyncrasies of a computer system, they are not given any
useful information by those who know, just a badmouthing? (or are completely
ignored)  Why is it that people like Steve Jobs have to abandon their efforts to
make truly innovative products?  I ask those of you who call yourselves
hackers, why is this?  And further, how can you let it go on?  It is a fact
that the computer industry has changed the world, and shall continue to do so
for a long time to come.  It has allowed the propagation of information in a
volume unheard of even twenty years ago, and has made this world even smaller
than it was before.  I shudder to think what that world will be like if the
corporations are allowed to have their way, perpetuating more drivel like the
286, Windows, and the IBM product line on the computer-using public.

  That is not to say I am against business per se; people who profit off of
innovative, intelligent, creative designs do not bother me.  In fact, I applaud
it; that is the American way.  But those who manage to sell kludgy, uncreative
systems to the public, and profit off of them, are the ones who are the
problem.  And, unfortunately, because they have enough money to make up for
blunt stupidity, they can keep doing it for a very long time.

  I put it to you thus:  Where HAS the hacker ethic gone?  If it still exists,
where?  And, if it DOES exist, why are those who call themselves "hackers"
allowing this to perpetuate itself?  Why are they not creating new, innovative,
interesting ideas to stop the SOS from maintaining its choke hold on the
computer industry?

  I await with interest what will probably be a resounding silence.


Has anyone got an active filter design program that runs on an IBM PC ??

Something that will easily let me specify bandpass filter parameters,
and it will give me the appropriate component values ??

It has to be public domain,  if anyone has one, could you mail it to me.

Thanks in advance,

Scott
u9035710@wraith.cs.uow.edu.au


Hi,

I'd like to thank you all for the fast responses.
Special thanks go to those who replied (lexical order):

Marcus J Ranum <mjr@TIS.COM>
Paul Crowley <pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk>
pausch@saaf.se (Paul Schlyter)
tarnold@vnet.IBM.COM (Todd W. Arnold)
wcs@anchor.ho.att.com (Bill Stewart)

My question was:

How much of the DES-encrypted data is affected depends on the used
encryption mode. According to Marcus J Ranum (mjr@TIS.COM) there is:

Unfortunally, people strongly disagree which mode will lead to destruction
of all of the following data. Sure seems that some modes will resync quite
fast, others will never, others will even only effect the very block.

Summarized, people said concerning *this* matter:

/
\

Maybe someone *definitely* knows what happens in which mode?

Nevertheless, Thank you all very much again.

Axel Dunkel

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I include the responses I got:

From: tarnold@vnet.IBM.COM (Todd W. Arnold)

It depends on the mode you're using.  For a single 64-bit input block, a
one-bit error will have a 50 percent chance of corrupting each of the 64
output bits - in other words, it essentially turns the output block into
a random number.  If you're encrypting data in CBC mode, however, only the
one 64-bit block will be affected.  The next block, and all that follow it
will be decrypted properly.

It's a good idea to have some kind of error correction in your system if
corrupted bits are likely.

   - Todd

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From: pausch@saaf.se (Paul Schlyter)

At least 8 bytes of data will be destroyed if one bit encrypted data is
in error.

If you use CBC (Cihper Block Chaining), then the remainder of the data
will be destroyed as well.

DES is VERY seisitive for single bit errors.  This is as it should be.

--
---
Paul Schlyter, Swedish Amateur Astronomer's Society (SAAF)
Nybrogatan 75 A, 6 tr,  S-114 40 Stockholm,  Sweden
InterNet:  pausch@saaf.se

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From: Paul Crowley <pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk>

Probably very bad; you might lose the rest of the data stream.  If you
want safety against dropped bits use an error correcting coder like the
freeware GNU ecc.
  __                                  _____
\/ o\ Paul Crowley   pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk \\ //
/\__/ Trust me. I know what I'm doing. \X/  Fold a fish for Jesus!

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From: wcs@anchor.ho.att.com

   how sensible is DES encrypted data towards bit errors? How much data per
   bit will be lost in average (I assume you still have the correct key)?

It depends on the mode you're using DES in.
Electronic Code Book (ECB) takes a block of 64 input bits
and produces 64 output bits, so if any bits are changed,
the entire block of 64 bits becomes bad.
I forget which feedback mode is which.
In all of them, the results of encrypting one block affect later blocks.
With some modes, the system self-synchronizes, so errors are repaired
in a few blocks.  With other modes, once one block is bad,
all later blocks will be bad too.

There's also the framing problem.  If you have a bit change,
the block that it's in changes, and maybe later blocks also change.
But if you have bits lost or bits added (64 bits in, 63 or 65 bits out),
everything is confused after that.

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From: Marcus J Ranum <mjr@TIS.COM>

	depends on the mode you're using. cfb, for example, synchronises
pretty fast. figure a bit error will destroy the current block and the
next one.

mjr.

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---
Experience is what you get if you don't get what you want...


  Sorry, you have a _wish_ for an uncluttered night sky, but it
isn't a right. When you get down to it, you actually have no rights
that the majority haven't agreed to give you (and them in the process).
It's a common misconception that being born somehow endows you with
rights to this that and the other. Sadly this is not true.
  Now if you want to talk about the responsibility that _should_ go with
the power to clutter the night sky, then that's a different matter.


I would not be too quick to say that they are almost certainly untrue.
Even strong minded people may fall back on childhood indoctrination,
grasp at straws, or do other strange things when faced with extreme
suffering, not to mention physiological problems which may lead to
diminished mental capacity.

At the risk of restarting an old argument and accusations of appeal to
authority I remind readers of what I posted a while back as a kind of
obituary for the late atheist Dr. Albert Sabin. In an old interview
rebroadcast on public radio just after his death he told about a time
a few years before when he was stricken with a very serious illness.
He admitted to having cried out to God while critically ill and on a
respirator. As it turned out he recovered and lived several more years.
After his recovery he attributed this to early indoctrination. Don't say
it couldn't happen to you, or that it hasn't happened to others, even if
you are one of the few people who have experienced things like this.
People are different. I admire Dr. Sabin for admitting his human weakness
in that instance. I would not think less of Asimov for similar weakness.

Nevertheless I agree that these reports are unsubstantiated and may
well be untrue. In any case they are not evidence for anything besides
the power of early indoctrination and human frailty.


way.qub.ac.uk writes (single angle brackets):

ng

There is no question of similarity in Jesus indication about John.
The passage in Matthew is very direct.  Where Luke (1:17) reports
the angel Gabriel prophesying that John will go before Christ "in the
power and spirit of Elias", In Matthew 11: 14, Jesus himself says of John,

   "And if you care to accept it, he himself is Elijah, who
    was to come".

It is interesting that Jesus prepended the words, "If you care to accept
it", as if to say that the implications of this truth, namely of rein-
carnation, I will not force on you, but for those who can accept it, here it
is.  A Jewish poster to other newsgroups on Jewish esotericism and other
topics has outlined the esoteric, cabbalistic Jewish teaching of of
reincarnation and Karma, a teaching that is little known among Jews
today, but which is apparently widespread enough in Israel that Hannah
Hurnard ("Hinds Feet on High Places") was told about it by a Rabbi
she was trying to convert back in the 1940s as a missionary in Palestine.
Thus there may well have been a small number of Jews who knew about this,
whereas the large number of people did not.  The statement of Jesus about
John, the greatest human personality in the New Testament, is guarded
but nevertheless quite direct.  Again, the subject of reincarnation, one
way or another, is not a subject of the New Testament, nor is the fate in general
of the human being between death and the last judgement.  But there are
occasional indications that point to it.

As for the "popular belief" that Elijah would come again, it was more than
a popular belief, as Jesus confirms it in more than one place, and he never
corrected those who were expecting Elijah --  for example, those who thought
that Jesus himself be he.


	John Smoltz, Tom Glavine, German Jiminez, Dale Murphy, Bruce Sutter,
Pete Smith, Rick Mahler, Jim Acker, Jim "Break on Through" Morrison, Ron
Gant, Andres Thomas, Gerald Perry, Ozzie "The Aeneid" Virgil, Lonnie Smith,
Jerry Royster.
	How'm I doing so far?
	NOTE:  I am not a Braves fun.n

 On the other hand, ask any

	On the other hand , II like the Braves *much* more than the
Cubs.  And all I can name is Ron Santo, Ernie Banks, and Don Kessinger
from 1969, my favorite Cubbie season.

	Right.  I've watched enough Braves' games to know a great deal
of their players.  I like many of their players.  The only Cubs games I
get to see while living in New York are those against the Mets, and they
put me to sleep because, face it, watching guys like Rick Sutcliffe and
Luis Salazar doesn't put me at the edge of my chair.u

	Actually, I notice a lot of anti-Toronto sentiment here in the
States.  Partly because of some of that post-Series arrogance (thanks
in part to "Upside-Down Flag" dork posts), partly because Roberto Alomar
is about as exciting as Swiss Cheese, and partly because, living in
Baltimore during the winters, I've become so fond of O's fans (especially
those who call in to Rex Barney's radio show) that I have to side against
their most hated rivals.

	Sorry, but METS is spelled with an "M" and a "T".... =)


From 9150618 Thu Apr 29 16:36:43 1993
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1993 16:36:42 +1000
From: 9150618 (Gavin Fairlamb)
To: 9130037
Status: R

Hello, folks...
        I am doing a uni. project and was wondering if you could
   supply with some specific info. or references for info. regarding
   		1). Considerations for installation of XWindows in
		a HP 9000(unknown model)
                2). Motif, OPENLOOK, XToolkit????
                3). X11, X11R....
                4). Glossary of any term on X
	We considering this software for the project which deals
     in image analysis...

     Any info. would be greatly appreciated.


The 486 at the same CLOCK is NOT as fast as the 040 at the same
clock speed.  The '040 also has much better floating point unit.
Now the DX2-66 is faster than the '040 at 33Mhz.  But for your
reference the 486 at 33 mhz gets ~14MIPS while the '040 at
33mhz gets ~20MIPS.


  Son of the Return of the "How much does Americans know about the rest of
the word?"-flamewar anyone?

-bertil-


Certainly many religious beliefs seem to be positive principles for
everyday living.  Indeed, I believe it is the Islamic religion which
avoids alcohol (I apologize if I name the wrong religion) and that
is certainly a physical positive in many respects.  However, this
proves nothing.  Just because something is a "basic, pragmatic
principle of day-to-day living" TODAY doesn't mean it evolved from
the same.  Especially those beliefs and (mostly) positions held based
on interpretations of the religion.

Religious beliefs come from many places but most will be backed up
(after many levels of arguments) to "Because that's how it is written."
or "God says..."  Now I'm not faulting that but that is not a basic,
pragmatic principle as you mean it in this context.  It is a belief
based on faith, which by definition is not necessarily backed up by
logic.  Faith is a given.  God is a absolute truth when arguing from
religion.  Also, many religions would reject your thesis that their
beliefs simply come from these day-to-day principles.

In summation, if you wish to use religious arguments be prepared to
back them up with "It says in the [fill in religious document here],"
because most religions (things which at least I denote as religions)
are based on the writings of or teachings of [fill in religious
figure here].

NOTE: Religion is a charged topic and if I offended anyone regarding
	  my references to God, I apologize.  Please insert your own
	  sensible references, the argument should apply to nearly all
	  religions.