Actually, I've heard that some M1 Abrams tank commanders take the
governers off their turbine engines, and can acheive 90MPH on a
paved road.  Never seen it myself, but I believe it...

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Disclaimer: These opinions are mine, obviously, since they end with my .sig!


Though there is a command in the law not to heed to one who prophecies
falsely, it is still possible for the one who has prophecied falsely
to prophecy truely again.  Take, for example the story in Kings about the
man of God from Judah who came to israel and prophecied against a king.
The Lord had commanded him to not eat or drink till he returned home.
Another prophet wanted this man of God to stay in his house, so he
prophecied falsely that the Lord wanted the man of God to stay in his
house.  While they ate and drank in his house, the Lord gave the prophet
who lied a word that the man of God would die from breaking the word of
the Lord.  It came to pass.


I heard that there will be an Apple price drop coming June 30th.  Can
anyone second this rumour?
--
A motion picture major at the Brooks Institute of Photography, CA
Santa Barbara and a foreign student from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.


Probably, but the point is THE COMPANY make the registration patch, NOT
YOU.  Sure, you can probably find another registerred user and compare notes,
but WHY?  It's not hindering you in any way unless you are just hacking.
[Problem about people who cut TOO MUCH from quoting...]

Nothing, but if you read my WHOLE suggestion, I'm saying that you register
via MAIL by mailing in your registration card, THEN the company send you
the patch which includes the info you put on the registration card.


I'd like to install an Apple (Quantum) 40 MB hard drive taken from a IIsi in an
external PowerDrive box from Hard Drives International that currenty has a dead
Conner mechanism in it. Have you done this (or do you know how)? If so, could
you please walk me through it, in as much detail as possible?

Please email me directly. If anyone else is interested in this, email me and
I'll forward responses to you. If enough people want instructions, I'll post a
summary within a week or so.

Thanks in advance,


I hadn't heard of the Valentine-1 before. Car&Driver and other auto
magazines
recommend BEL detectors.  I was considering their latest - the 966STi -
which picks up Super Wideband Ka and Laser as well.  It also avoids
radar detector detectors (although I really don't care about this since I
doubt I'll be driving in Virginia anytime soon - or have any other states
also made detectors iilegal?)

How does the Valentine-1 compare with the BEL products?


please subscrive me.


C&T chip set 286-12 mother board C&T BIOS with 2 meg RAM (80ns).  Reply
with reasonable offer if you are interested...  Thanks!  :)


   > Just curious, how would the Clipper Chip system handle
   > conference calls?

   It's not Clipper, it's any encryption system.  I've seen a number of
   designs; they generally involve a multi-line cleartext bridge.

Depending on the encryption system, so long as everyone has the same
key, it can be done.  For example, I was using "vat", which is an
Internet Audio tool, for a conference call, and we were encrypting the
session.  (Unfortunately, one site was doing more work, and didn't
have the CPU for it, so it didn't sound all that good at a different
site)

So, you don't neccessarily have to have a clear-text bridge.  But if
you do, its totally internal to one of the sites involved in the
conversation....

-derek


Somewhere or other I read that when a person of Chinese heritage was
told that he had high blood pressure he responded by eating celery
(sorry, I don't recall the "dosage").  Apparently this is supposed to
work in reducing hypertension.

Can anyone out there verify this?  And if it does work, does anyone
know the appropriate amounts and possible side-effects?


I hope there is not one- with a subject like this you just have a spiral.  What
would then be a morality of a morality of morals.  Labels don't make arguments.
One really needs a solid measuring stick by which most actions can be
interpreted, even though this would hardly seem moral.  For example "The best
thing for me is to ensure that I will eat and drink enough.  Hence all actions
must be weighed against this one statement."  whatever helps this goal is
"moral", whatever does not is "immoral"

Of course this leads such a blank space: there are so many different ways to
fulfill a goal, one would need a "hyper-morality" to apply to just the methods.

Seems to me we only consider something moral or immoral if we stop to think
about it long enough  :)  On the other hand, maybe it is our first gut
reaction...  Which?  Who knows: perhaps here we have a way to discriminate
morals.  I don't instinctively thing vegetarianism is right (the same way I
instinctively feel torture is wrong), but if I thought about it long enough and
listened to the arguments, I could perhaps reason that it was wrong (is that
possible!?  :) )  See the difference?

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best regards,

--Adam


I think this didn't get posted before (I've been reading
USENET for the longest time, but never had much interest in posting
until recently).  This is what I typed before:

	I have written Mr. Limbaugh before, and I loathe to use the
name Rush in association with him, because he is unworthy to have a
name in common with some of the greatest musicians in our time, the
BAND, Rush.
	His address, as some of you wanted is:
	70277.2502@compuserve.com
	He has been to wrapped up in himself to respond to me, but
maybe some of you will have better luck.  :)  bye!
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	g'bye for now...

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Regarding the consequences of the original sin:

Catholics believe that what Adam primarily lost by his sin, for
himself and the human race, was sanctifying grace.  This is basically
a share in the Divine life.  Take a rock and make it able to talk:
what God does to a human being through sanctifying grace is similar.
It makes such a one able to live on a plane that is above the powers
of any possible creature.  This is the "everlasting life" that the New
Testament speaks of.

What Christ did when he came was to restore this life of sanctifying
grace to the human race.  He instituted the Sacraments as the means by
which this life is given to people, and its increase fostered.

The absence of sanctifying grace at death means automatic exclusion
from Heaven.  The nature of Heaven is such that it's impossible for a
human being to have any part in it without the gift of sanctifying
grace.  To use my example, it would be like taking that rock and
attempting to hold a conversation with it: rocks cannot talk.  Neither
can human beings live in Heaven without sanctifying grace.

This all obviously applies equally well to infants or adults, since
both have souls.  Infants must be baptized, therefore, or they cannot
enter into Heaven.  They too need this form of life in them, or they
cannot enter into Heaven.

Turning it around, infant baptism is good supporting evidence for the
Catholic belief in sanctifying grace.  Unless Baptism causes some
change in an infant's soul, there is no particular reason to insist on
the practice.  Yet infant Baptism was probably practiced by the
Apostles themselves, and was *certainly* part of the Church shortly
thereafter.


I keep hearing this, but every assertion of this form has come from
government sources except two.  As far as I am concerned, I am not
ready to stipulate that Koresh EVER promised to come out except for
his first promise and his last promise.

The first promise was conditional on his audio tape being given
NATIONAL exposure.  Well, it never was -- it was broadcast locally,
in a chopped-up fashion, and that's all.  And even then, they cleverly
cut it off when it got to the part where he demanded "national exposure,"
but not so cleverly that we didn't hear it.

The last promise was conditional on the finishing of his manuscript.
We'll never know if he would have kept that one.

Strangely enough, the previous day they said they were prepared to
"wait as long as it takes."

Quite possible.  But arguments of intent do not mark the dividing
line between guilt and innocence -- only the line between murder and
negligent manslaughter.

This would be an interesting development.

It's too tempting for one or more of the survivors to "go state's
evidence," parrot the FBI story, hang the whole "suicide" on Koresh,
claim they only stayed at gunpoint, etc.  If any of them do this
in the next few weeks, it doesn't prove much; but if none of them
do, it would be a strong indication to me that the FBI story is
dead wrong.
--


     I am curious about knowing which commericial cars today
   have v engines.

   V4 - I don't know of any.
   V6 - Legend, MR3? MR6?

VW Golf/Passat 2.8l VR6 (inline V6!), very narrow angle (11 deg?), one head.
Audi 80/100 2.6/2.8l V6

   V8 - Don't know of any.

Audi V8 3.6/4.2l
Some MBs
Some BMWs

   V12 - Jaguar XJS
BMW 750/850
MB *600*

    Please add to the list.

    Thanks,
    -S
    ssave@ole.cdac.com


Does anyone know of an X-based terminal emulator which can
emulate a color tektronics graphics terminal such as
TEK 4105 or TEK 4107, etc?


Wood played most of his junior career in Seattle.  He was one
of the leading scorers on a mediocre team when he was traded away in
1992.  He rarely lost a fight and was one of the toughest players in
the WHL.

However, I was extremely surprised when he was drafted, especially in
the third round.  He certainly didn't look like NHL material...


:
: In the NT, the clear references are all from Paul's letters.  In Rom
: 1, there is a passage that presupposes that homosexuality is an evil.
: Note that the passage isn't about homosexuality -- it's about
: idolatry.  Homosexuality is visited on people as a punishment, or at
: least result, of idolatry.  There are a number of arguments over this
: passage.  It does not use the word "homosexuality", and it is referring
: to people who are by nature heterosexual practicing homosexuality.
: So it's not what I'd call an explicit teaching against all homosexuality.

That's like saying that murder is only wrong for those of us who aren't natural
murders, and stealing is only wrong for those of us who aren't natural
thieves.

Will


This would be tedious, but if you have the time you could get the .bdf
file (I can email it to you if you don't have it or don't have easy access
to the X source), and could make your own bold font from this.  Since each
glyph is just a bitmap, you could write a program to convert each
glyph to a bitmap-readable file, use bitmap to make each glyph "bold", and
convert the results back to .bdf format.  Then, use "bdftopcf" to create
the .pcf file.  Then, stick the .pcf in /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc (or wherever)
and include it in fonts.dir and, voila, you'll have what you need!


[...]

No no no no no no no.

It will go like this:

FEDS: We need the key to phone 334RE67D99.

ESCROW: You have a warrant to tap the line phone 334RE67D99 is on?

FEDS: Yes.

ESCROW: Fine, here is our key.

What happens is, Feds tap a line; find Clipper is being used; extract
serial number; get key; decipher convo.  The serial number is never
registered to a specific owner, it is _sent_ as part of the
conversation.  If I give you my Clipper phone, you do not need to
re-register it (mainly because it was never 'registered' to me in the
first place).

There are a lot of things that bother me about Clipper, but this is
not one of them.  Let's get our facts straight and not waste effort
demolishing straw men.

	RA

rogue@cs.neu.edu (Rogue Agent/SoD!)


I'm trying to bring in 8+ bits to a PC, and would like
	to use interrupt-driven routines. Without buying an IO
	board or making a new port, _where_ can I bring in these
	bits? LPT seems to have only a few inputs, but I've heard
	rumours that some LPTs have bidirectional lines. Anybody
	know fer sure? If any bi-d LPTs, which boards have them
	(I'll be running a new 386DX-33)?

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to all SunRayce '93 competitors: I hope you're getting
about as much sleep as I am.....


I read a great book about eye dominance several years ago. So there is one
book out there..at least one :).

There were several types of eye dominance. Where a person looks in their
memory usually indicates a type of eye dominanc Another type is related to
coordination activities like hitting a ball. Another for reading.

I didn't read one that discussed prescription strength. Although people
with bad vision, near or far sighted would tend to depend on the stronger
eye.


And who was it that insisted sidestand cutout switches were right up
there with tachometers, something like a curse from God?


I wasn't sure if this was the right newsgroup to post this to, but I guess
the misc is there for a reason.  Here goes...  I am getting married in June to
a devout (Wisconsin Synod) Lutheran.  I would classify myself as a strong
agnostic/weak athiest.  This has been a a subject of many discussions between
us and is really our only real obstacle.  We don't have any real difficulties
with the religious differences yet, but I expect they will pop up when we have
children.  I have agreed to raise the
children "nominally" Lutheran.  That is, Lutheran traditions, but trying to
keep an open mind.  I am not sure if this is even possible though.  I feel that
that the worst quality of being devoutly religous is the lack of an open mind.

     Anyway, I guess I'll get on with my question.  Is anyone in the same
situation and can give some suggestions as to how to deal with this?  We've
taken the attitude so far of just talking about it a lot and not letting
anything get bottled up inside.  Sometimes I get the feeling we're making this
much bigger than it actually is.  Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
Also, please e-mail responses since I don't get a chance to read this group
often.  :-(


Not always true. In fact, in the case of Doug Gilmour, he actually praises them.

Europeans that do those things are scum in Cherry's opinion. Canadian kids
that do them are "tough, just like a real Canadian".

Ulf Samuelsson cheap shots Mark Messier's ribs and Don wants Ulf's head. Doug
Gilmour breaks Tomas Sandstrom's arm and Don says Sandstrom had it coming.
Methinks Don is either very confused or just a bigot. Most likely the latter.

I used to like Don Cherry. I thought he was great. But I'm starting to see
his true colors (redneck) and the more I see of them, the more I think he's
just an asshole.


Sure sounds like aXe to me.

--

Michael Salmon

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flat = 180 deg V = horizonatlly opposed

Usually, it also equals "boxer," however, I think the term is
traditionally reserved for 8's and 12's (and firing order matters).
This was talked about here in r.a many months back; I can't remember
the consensus.

Examples:

Ferrari's 512TR is a flat 12 boxer.
Porsche's 911 is a flat 6.
Subaru's Impreza is a flat 4.

Regards,

Brian

bqueiser@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
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Some of the MD's in this newsgroup have been riding my butt pretty good
(maybe in some cases with good reason).  In this post on depression, I'm
laying it all out.  I'll continue to post here because I think that I have
some knowledge that could be useful.  Once you have read this post, you
should know where I'm coming from when I post again in the future.

Lida,
I can emphasize with your situation.  Both my wife and I suffered from
bouts of depression.  Her's was brought on by breast cancer and mine was a
rebound stress reaction to her modified radical mastectomy and
chemotherapy.  Lida, I used my knowledge of nutrition to get her through
her six months of chemotherapy(with the approval of her oncologist).  When
severe depression set in a few months after the chemo stopped, I tried to
use supplements to bring her out of it.  I had "cured" her PMS using
supplements and I really thought that I knew enough about the role of diet
in depression to take care of her depression as well.  It didn't work and
she was put on Prozac by her oncologist.  Two Winters ago(three years after
by wife's breast cancer) I got hit with severe depression(pretty typical and
one reason why many marriages break up after breast cancer or another
stressor).  I tried to take care of it for several months with
supplementation.  Didn't work.  My internist ended up putting me on Prozac.
I was going to give you a list of several studies that have been done using
B6, niacin, folate and B12 to "cure" depression.  I'm not going to do that
because all you would be doing is flying blind like I was.

Lida, I do believe that depression can have a dietary component.  But the
problem is that you need to know exactly what the problem is and then use
an approach which will "fix" the problem.  For chemotherapy, I knew exactly
what drugs were going to be used and exactly what nutrients would be
affected.  Same thing for PMS.  I was flying blind for both of these
stressors but the literature that I used to devise a treatment program was
pretty good.  Depression is just too complicated.  What you really need is
a nutritional scan.  This is not a diet analysis but an analysis of your
bodies nutrient reserves.  For every vitamin and mineral(except vitamin C),
you have a reserve.  The RDA is not designed to give you enough of any
nutrient to keep these reserves full, it is only designed to keep them from
being emptied which would cause clinical pathology.  Stress will increase
your need for many vitamins and minerals.  This is when your reserves become
very important.

Lida, without your permission, I'm going to use your post as a conduit to
try to explain to the readers in this group and Sci. Med. where I'm coming
from.  I have taught a course on human nutrition in one of the Osteopathic
Medical schools for ten years now.  I've written my own textbook because
none was available.  What I teach is not a rehash of biochemistry.  I
preach nutrient reserves(yes my lectures in this course are referred to by
my students as sermons).  Here is what I cover:

Indroduction and Carbohydrates 			Lipids

Proteins I					Proteins II

Energy Balance					Evaluation of Nutritional
						Status I, A Clinical
						Perspective

Evaluation of Nutritional Status II,            Evaluation of Nutritional
A Biochemical Perspective			Status III, Homework
						Assignment Using the
						Nutritionist IV Diet and
						Fitness Analysis Software
						program

Weight Control					Food Fads and Facts

Age-Related Change in Nutrient Requirements	Food Additives,
						Contaminants and Cancer

Drug-Nutrient Interactions			Mineral and Water Balance

Sodium, Potassium and Chloride			Calcium, Magnesium and
						Phosphorus

Iron						Zinc and Copper

Iodine and Fluoride				Other Trace Minerals

Vitamin A					Vitamin E

Vitamins D and K				Vitamin C

Thiamin and Niacin				Riboflavin and Pyridoxine

Pantothenic and Folic acids			Biotin and B12

Other Nutrient Factors				Enteral Nutrition

Parenteral Nutrition

Every three years I spend my entire Summer reviewing the Medical literature
to find material that I can use in my nutrition textbook.  I last did this
in the Summer of 1991.  I read everything that I can find and then sit down
and rewrite my lecture handouts which are bound in three separate books
that have 217, 237 and 122 pages.  Opposite each page of written text(which
I write myself) I've pulled figures, tables and graphs from various
copyrighted sources.  Since this material is only being used for
educational purposes, I can get around the copyright laws (so far).  I can not
send this material out to newsgroup readers(as I've been asked to do).

I am now in the process of trying to get a grant to setup a nutrition
assessment lab.  This is the last peice of the nutrition puzzle that I need
to make my education program complete.  This lab will let me measure the
nutrient reserve for almost all the vitamins and minerals that are known to
be required in humans.  The Mayo clinic already uses a similiar lab to
design supplement programs for their cancer patients.  Cancer Treatment
Centers of America, which is a private for-profit organization with
hospitals in Illinois and Oklahoma(Tulsa) also operates a
nutritional assessment clinical lab.  I also believe that the Pritikin
Clinic in California has a similiar lab setup.

For physicians reading this post, I would suggest that you get the new
Clinical Nutrition Textbook that has just been published(Feb) by Mosby.  I
have been using Alpers Manual of Nutritional Therapeutics(a Little Brown
series book) as a supplemental text for my course but Alpers is geared more
to residency training.  Two M.D's have written this new Clinical Nutrition
textbook and it is geared more towards medical student education and it
does a good job of covering the lab tests that can be run to assess a
patient's nutritional status.  Let me quote a few sentences from the
Preface of this new text:

"So-called nutrition specialists were in reality gastroenterologists,
hematologists, or pediatricians who just happened to profess some knowledge
of nutrition as it related to their field of practice."

"Unfortunately, about two thirds of the medical schools in the United
States require no formal instruction in nutrition."

"But times and medical practice have changed.  More than half of the
leading causes of death in this country are nutrition related."

"... this monograph should accomplish the following two objectives: (1) it
should complement your medical training by emphasizing the relevance of
nutrition to your medical practice; and (2) it should heighten your
awareness of nutrition as a medical speciality that is vitally important
for both disease prevention and the treatment of diseases of essentially
every organ system."

Roland L. Weinsier, MD, DrPH

Lida, my advise to you is that you tell your family members to try to find
a physician who has an understanding of the role that vitamins and minerals
(yes even magnesium may play a role in depression) play in depression and
who could get a nutritional profile run.  Menopause is often a time when
women suffer depression.  There are a lot of hormonal changes that are
occuring but they are not the same ones that occur during PMS.  A
nutritionist may also be able to help.  Not too long ago a poster mentioned
that his nutritionist had diagnosed a selenium deficiency based on a red
cell glutathionine peroxidase test(the specific test for the selenium
reserve).  Most clinical labs will not run this test and I advised him to
try to make sure that the lab that did the test was certified.  There are
also a lot of hair and nail analysis labs setup to do trace mineral
analysis but these labs are not regulated.  Checks of these labs using
certified standards, and also those doing water lead analysis, showed some
pretty shoddy testing was going on.  If you or anyone else finds someone
who will run these speciality nutrition tests, make sure that they are
using a lab that has been certified under CLIA(the Clinical Laboratory
Improvement Act).

A diet analysis may be helpful since many nutrient reserves have been shown
to correlate fairly well with the dietary intake as monitored by food logging
and software analysis(Nutritionist IV and other software programs).  But
there are still about half of the nutrients required by humans that do not
show a very good correlation between apparent dietary intake and reserve status.
Until we have more nutritional assessment clinical labs in operation in the
U.S. and physicians who have been trained how to use the nutritional
profile that these labs provide to devise a treatment approach that uses
diet changes and supplementation, anti-depressants will probably continue
to be the best approach to depression.

Martin Banschbach, Ph.D.
Professor of Biochemistry and Chairman
Department of Biochemistry and Microbiology
OSU College of Osteopathic Medicine


: The median of a distribution is that variate-value which divides the
: distribution halfway, i.e. 1/2 of the distribution (population) have
: lower and half have higher variate-values.

: So for Males 20-39 the median=7.3, this means that half of these men
: are higher than this and half are lower than this.  Now if the population
: sample size is 3300, and 1% of them are gay, 33 males are gay.  If we
: say they are distributed equally then only 16.5 are greater than 7.3
: sexual partners, of course, this means that 49.5% heterosexual men are
: greater than 7.3.

Not quite.  First, the median does not imply that half of the men are
above and half below 7.3: it simply means that 7.3 is the mid-point
between the maximum number of partners and the minimum (which is most
likely zero).  However, assuming your implication to be more-or-less
correct, your final result is still invalid.  If 50% of *all* males
have had more than 7.3 partners, and you deduct the assumed 1% of
homosexual males, what remains is not 49.5%, but still *50%* of all
*heterosexual* males.  Which is to say: hey, we're all human.


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I don't really mind the length of games either.  If they want to speed
the games up in sensible ways, that's fine with me too.  However, what
I object to is the assertion by baseball people (Whitey Herzog, Buck
Rodgers are who I've heard say this) that games are too long because
hitters are taking too many pitches, and that the strike zone needs to
be expanded.


Someone please fill me in on what 3do.

Thanks,


The following article by columnist Mike Royko is his humorous commentary
on some of the public's perception of doctors and their salaries.
I hope some of you will find it as amusing as I did.

____________________________________________________________________________
[Reprinted w/o permission]

"There's no cure for stupidity of poll on doctors' salaries"

By Mike Royko
Tribune Media Services

     On a stupidity scale, a recent poll about doctors' earnings
is right up there.  It almost scored a perfect brain-dead 10.
     It  was  commissioned by some whiny consumers  group  called
Families USA.
      The  poll tells us that the majority of  Americans  believe
that doctors make too much money.
     The  pollsters  also asked what a fair income would  be  for
physicians.  Those polled said, oh, about $80,000 a year would be
OK.
     How generous.  How sporting.  How stupid.
     Why is this poll stupid?   Because it is based on resentment
and envy, two emotions that ran hot during the political campaign
and are still simmering.
     You could conduct the same kind of poll about any group that
earns $100,000-plus and get the same results.  Since the majority
of Americans don't make those bucks,  they assume that those  who
do are stealing it from them.
     Maybe  the Berlin Wall came down,  but don't  kid  yourself.
Karl Marx lives.
     It's also stupid because it didn't ask key  questions,  such
as:  Do  you  know how much education and training  it  takes  to
become a physician?
     If those polled said no,  they didn't know, then they should
have  been disqualified.   If they gave the wrong  answers,  they
should have been dropped.   What good are their views on how much
a doctor should earn if they don't know what it takes to become a
doctor?
     Or maybe a question should have been phrased this way:  "How
much  should  a person earn if he or she must (a)  get  excellent
grades and a fine educational foundation in high school in  order
to (b) be accepted by a good college and spend four years  taking
courses heavy in math, physics, chemistry, and other lab work and
maintain a 3.5 average or better,  and (c) spend four more  years
of  grinding study in medical school,  with the third and  fourth
years in clinical training,  working 80 to 100 hours a week,  and
(d) spend another year as a low-pay,  hard-work intern,  and  (e)
put  in  another  three to 10 years  of  post-graduate  training,
depending  on  your specialty and (f) maybe wind up  $100,000  in
debt  after  medical school and (g) then work an  average  of  60
hours  a week,  with many family doctors putting in 70  hours  or
more until they retire or fall over?"
     As  you have probably guessed by now,  I  have  considerably
more  respect for doctors than does the law firm of  Clinton  and
Clinton,  and all the lawyers and insurance executives they  have
called together to remake America's health care.
     Based  on what doctors contribute to society,  they are  far
more useful than the power-happy,  ego-tripping, program-spewing,
social tinkerers who will probably give us a medical plan that is
to health what Clinton's first budget is to frugality.
     But propaganda works.   And,  as the stupid poll  indicates,
many Americans wrongly believe that profiteering doctors are  the
major cause of high medical costs.
     Of  course doctors are well-compensated.   They  should  be.
Americans now live longer than ever.   But who is responsible for
our longevity--lawyers,  Congress, or the guy flipping burgers in
a McDonald's?
     And the doctors prolong our lives despite our having  become
a  nation  of  self-indulgent,   lard-butted,   TV-gaping   couch
cabbages.
     Ah,  that  is not something you heard President  Clinton  or
Super  Spouse  talk  about during the  campaign  or  since.   But
instead of trying to turn the medical profession into a  villain,
     "Let  us  talk  about medical care and one  of  the  biggest
problems we have.   That problem is you, my fellow American. Yes,
you,  eating  too much and eating the wrong foods;  many  of  you
guzzling  too  much hooch;  still puffing away at $2.50  a  pack;
getting  your daily exercise by lumbering from the fridge to  the
microwave to the couch; doing dope and bringing crack babies into
the  world;  filling  the big city emergency rooms  with  gunshot
victims;  engaging  in unsafe sex and catching a  deadly  disease
while blaming the world for not finding an instant cure.
     "You  and  your habits,  not the  doctors,  are  the  single
biggest  health  problem in this country.   If  anything,  it  is
amazing that the docs keep you alive as long as they do.
     "In fact,  I don't understand how they can stand looking  at
your blubbery bods all day.
     "So as your president,  I call upon you to stop whining  and
start living cleanly.   Now I must go get myself a triple cheesy-
greasy with double fries.  Do as I say, not as I do."
     But  for those who truly believe that doctors are  overpaid,
there is another solution: Don't use them.
     That's right.   You don't feel well?   Then try one of those
spine poppers,  needle twirlers, or have Rev. Bubba lay his hands
upon your head and declare you fit.
     Or  there is the do-it-yourself approach.   You  have  chest
pains?   Then sit in front of a mirror,  make a slit here, a slit
there, and pop in a couple of valves.
     You're  going to have a kid?   Why throw your money at  that
overpaid  sawbones so he can buy a better car and a bigger  house
than  you  will  ever  have  (while  paying  more  in  taxes  and
malpractice insurance than you will ever earn)?
     Just have the kid the old-fashioned way.   Squat and do  it.
And if it survives,  you can go to the library and find a book on
how to give it its shots.
     By  the  way,  has  anyone  ever done a  poll  on  how  much
pollsters should earn?

Royko  is  a Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist for  Tribune  Media
Services.

____________________________________________________________________________


The following program is a very quick hack I created a few months
ago to determine whether a Sun Sparcstation IPC could perform
real-time, full-duplex encrypted audio with resulting data rates
sustainable by today's modems.

This test program reads linearly-encoded audio from the audio device,
compresses it with GSM 06.10 (compresses frames of 160 13-bit samples
recorded at 8kHz into 260 bits resulting in a 50 Hz frame rate), encrypts
it with DES, then reverses the process and sends the reconstructed audio
back to the audio device.  The compressed, encrypted audio stream
is 13 kbits/s (!).

My Sparcstation IPC (not exactly a very fast machine these days,
certainly slower than an ELC) would just barely sustain this activity
(audio underruns would occcur but the speech was very intelligible).  I
ran it as a real-time process to get the best results.  Remember,
though, that this program is a quick hack and the performance can
certainly be improved.

The audio compression routines can be ftp'd from tub.cs.tu-berlin.de,
I believe (look for gsm or toast).  I used Eric Young's DES
implementation but I no longer know where I got it from.

Cheers!greg

<--------------------------- CUT HERE ----------------------------->
/*
 * Test program to see how much CPU it takes for secure digital audio.
 * Written by G. Onufer (greg@cheers.Bungi.COM).
 *
 * Written on a Sun IPC running Solaris 2.2 with a Sun ISDN S-Bus card
 * and a SpeakerBox.
 */
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <unistd.h>
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/audioio.h>
#include <stropts.h>

#include <gsm.h>
#include <des.h>

boolean_t
svs_audio_init(int fd, audio_info_t *prev_info)
{
	audio_info_t info;

	if (prev_info != NULL) {
		if (ioctl(fd, AUDIO_GETINFO, prev_info) < 0) {
			perror("AUDIO_GETINFO");
			return (B_FALSE);
		}
	}

	AUDIO_INITINFO(&info);

	info.record.pause = B_TRUE;
	info.play.pause = B_TRUE;

	info.play.sample_rate = 8000;
	info.play.encoding = AUDIO_ENCODING_LINEAR;
	info.play.channels = 1;
	info.play.precision = 16;
	info.record.sample_rate = 8000;
	info.record.encoding = AUDIO_ENCODING_LINEAR;
	info.record.channels = 1;
	info.record.precision = 16;

	info.record.buffer_size = 320 * 4;

	if (ioctl(fd, AUDIO_SETINFO, &info) < 0) {
		perror("AUDIO_SETINFO");
		return (B_FALSE);
	}

	if (ioctl(fd, I_FLUSH, FLUSHRW) < 0) {
		perror("I_FLUSH");
		return (B_FALSE);
	}

	AUDIO_INITINFO(&info);

	info.record.pause = B_FALSE;
	info.play.pause = B_FALSE;

	if (ioctl(fd, AUDIO_SETINFO, &info) < 0) {
		perror("AUDIO_SETINFO");
		return (B_FALSE);
	}

	return (B_TRUE);
}

boolean_t
svs_in(int ifd, gsm handle, gsm_byte *buf)
{
	gsm_signal sample[160];

	if (read(ifd, sample, sizeof (sample)) != sizeof (sample)) {
		fprintf(stderr, "svs_in: short read\n");
		return (B_FALSE);
	}

	gsm_encode(handle, sample, buf);

	return (B_TRUE);
}

boolean_t
svs_out(int ofd, gsm handle, gsm_byte *buf)
{
	gsm_signal sample[160];

	if (gsm_decode(handle, buf, sample) < 0) {
		fprintf(stderr, "svs_out: gsm_decode failed\n");
		return (B_FALSE);
	}

	if (write(ofd, sample, sizeof (sample)) != sizeof (sample)) {
		fprintf(stderr, "svs_out: short write\n");
		return (B_FALSE);
	}

	return (B_TRUE);
}

main()
{
	gsm handle;
	gsm_frame frame;
	int audiofd;
	int option;
	des_cblock key, ivec_in, ivec_out;
	des_key_schedule ks_in, ks_out;
	des_cblock cbuf_in[4], cbuf_out[4], cbuf_buf[4];

	audiofd = open("/dev/audio", O_RDWR);
	if (audiofd < 0) {
		perror("open");
		exit(4);
	}

	/*
	 * Initialize GSM compression code
	 */
	if ((handle = gsm_create()) == NULL) {
		fprintf(stderr, "svs: gsm_create failed\n");
		exit(4);
	}

	option = B_TRUE;
	if (gsm_option(handle, GSM_OPT_FAST, &option) < 0) {
		fprintf(stderr, "svs: gsm_option (FAST) failed\n");
		exit(4);
	}

	/*
	 * Initialize DES code
	 */
	des_random_key(&key);

	if (des_set_key(&key, ks_in) < 0) {
		fprintf(stderr, "svs: des_set_key failed\n");
		exit(4);
	}
	if (des_set_key(&key, ks_out) < 0) {
		fprintf(stderr, "svs: des_set_key failed\n");
		exit(4);
	}
	memset(ivec_in, 0, sizeof (ivec_in));
	memset(ivec_out, 0, sizeof (ivec_out));

	/*
	 * Open audio device and configure it
	 */
	if (!svs_audio_init(audiofd, NULL))
		exit(3);

	for (;;) {
		/*
		 * Get 160 samples (16-bit linear 8000Hz) and
		 * convert to a 33 byte frame
		 */
		if (!svs_in(audiofd, handle, frame))
			exit(1);

		/*
		 * Encrypt/Decrypt block
		 */
		des_cbc_encrypt(frame, cbuf_out, (long)32, ks_in, ivec_in,
		    DES_ENCRYPT);
		des_cbc_encrypt(cbuf_out, cbuf_buf, (long)32, ks_out, ivec_out,
		    DES_DECRYPT);

		memmove(frame, cbuf_buf, 32);

#if 0
		if (memcmp(cbuf_in, cbuf_buf, 32) != 0) {
			fprintf(stderr, "svs: memcmp failed\n");
			exit(4);
		}
#endif

		/*
		 * Take 33 byte frame and convert to 160 samples
		 * and play
		 */
		if (!svs_out(audiofd, handle, frame))
			exit(2);
	}


                                           ^^^^^^^^^^

Zounds!  There's a blast from the past indeed!  I'd nearly forgotten
about the strategic significance of strabismic in r.m lore.  It's
really good to see it proudly displayed again, although I'm sure
by now that its carbs are spooge-o-rama from long disuse.

Gosh, I'm tingling all over!


Claris Filemaker Pro Database Manager for sale.  Still in package.

$240 or best offer.

Call (415) 824 6209, ask for Larry.


Yes. It was the strangest series I have ever watched. And the ending
fit perfectly.


Radio-Electronics sends each company a bunch of computer-printed address
labels for all the people who circled that company's number.

The company sends whatever it wants to -- normally a catalog.


Let me salute Gary Chin for speaking the gospel which is our source
of life.  Any who will follow his example, and accept the priorities
Christ commands of us, that the weightier matters of the law are justice
and mercy and good faith, is my brother or sister in Christ, and I will
attend to such a person with humility and charity.  We may not, in the
end, agree -- siblings often don't -- but we can at least talk.


: Very true (length of time for discussions on creationism vs evolutionism).
: Atheists and Christians have been debating since ?? and still debate with
: unabated passion 8-).

Mike,

I've seen referrences to "Creation vs Evolution" several times in a.a
and I have question. Is either point of view derived from direct
observation; can either be scientific? I wonder if the whole
controversy is more concerned with the consequences of the "Truth"
rather than the truth itself.
Both sides seem to hold to a philosophical outcome, and I can't help
wondering which came first. As I've pointed out elsewhere, my view of
human nature makes me believe that there is no way of knowing
anyhthing objectively - all knowledge is inherently subjective. So, in
the context of a.a, would you take a stand based on what you actually
know to be true or on what you want to be true and how can you tell
the difference?


above
Robinson's
average.
the
easliy
REAL stats
water boy!
tons

Check your facts....Andre dawson's career Slugging pct is in the .480's
So is Winny's I would like to see your facts. Winny has probably done
better than 129 points above with a carrer SLG of 480. Check on more
important stats. DEFENSE, and HEART. BATTING AVERAGE. RBI's


	This is not a good idea.. I upgraded my motherboard last fall.  I
would have been quite pissed at any software that would have forced me to
reinstall simply because I changed motherboards.

	Any info in the BIOS is too volatile to use as a checksum.  Are you
going to require that a user re-install all their software if they add 4Mb
of RAM to their computer?  I did that a couple of weeks ago.  It's in the
BIOS, and if software had told me "this isn't the machine you installed me
on" I would never have used that software again.  Really bad idea.

	This is silly.  It's much easier to loan disks to a friend and let
them do an install than to backup your copy already on disk, and then give
them that.  Your scheme isn't going to stop anyone.

	Do you know any assembly language at all?  All anyone needs to do if
find the part of the code that does the quiz, and insert a JMP instruction
to just completely skip it.  Not that difficult, really!  And there is very
little that commpanies can do to stop this type of thing.  Using PKLITE or
some similar utility would help, but only if the resulting compressed .EXE
were tagged as uncompressable.

	This is by far the best idea you presented in your post.  Making it
plainly obvious who registered is going to stop casual pirates. But, the
determined ones are just going to answer "Joe Blow" to the question of
"what's your name" so this won't stop them in the long run.

	Pirates are always going to win this fight.  They simply have more
time to work on the software and figure out the protection scheme.

--
Steve Madsen
sjmadsen@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu


[Description of Boeing study of two-staged spaceplane using
supersonic ramjets deleted.]


Roger, you should check your facts before posting! The Kings have
conceded 12 goals in 2 games.


I've got 2 foot switches for sale.  They appear to be designed
for studio use (ie: they're very well built) - 1" in diameter, 6'
cord.  I'd like $15, but I'd also like to sell them, so make me an
offer.

	Also I just bought a new Ibanez guitar so I need to sell one
of my others.  It's a Kramer with passive EMG pickups (2 single, one
double).  These pickups sound GREAT and are whisper-quiet.  I'd like
to get $250 for it.

-Jason


I build two executables for the same application.
Let's call them Papp (uses shared libs) and SPapp (statically linked).

The problem is that I get problems when trying to build the *static one*,
but not the dynamic one. See the trace below.

BTW, the static one runs fine despite the ominous error message.
Can someone clue me in as to why the static one bombs at link time?

Thanks very much,

Sandiway

Dr. Sandiway Fong
NEC Research Institute Inc.
4 Independence Way
Princeton NJ 08540

(609) 951-2733
(609) 951-2482 (FAX)

Here is the linking stage...

/usr2/quintus/bin3.1.1/sun4-4.1/ld -e start -Bstatic Papp.o \
/usr2/quintus/generic/qplib3.1.1/library/sun4-4/libpl.a  \
/usr2/quintus/generic/qplib3.1.1/library/sun4-4/libplm.a  \
/usr2/quintus/bin3.1.1/sun4-4.1/libqp.a \
-lsspkg -lXpm -lm -L/usr/local/guide/lib -lguidexv  -lxvps -lxview \
-lolgx -lX11 -lXext -lcps  -lc -lpixrect -o SPapp
Undefined:
_XESetCreateGC
_XESetFreeFont
_XESetCloseDisplay
_XESetError
_XInitExtension
_XESetFreeGC
_XESetCopyGC
_XESetCreateFont
_XESetFlushGC
_XESetEventToWire
_XESetErrorString
_XESetWireToEvent
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `SPapp'

ldd SPapp
SPapp: statically linked

The shared lib version is linked in exactly the same way save for the omission
of -Bstatic.


 I don't think that a transmission fluid change will solve your problem.
 Unless you are in an extremely cold climate and using a very heavy weight
 fluid.  Follow the manufacturer's recommended oil weight.  Some of the
 cars I have had (all standard transmissions 4 or 5 speeds) recommend
 changing the transmission fluid at 30,000 miles under normal driving
 conditions.  I've gone 100,000 without changing the transmission oil (and
 had to replace the transmission bearings!). My older cars used 85 weight
 oil whereas my 92 Honda uses 10-30 motor oil (or maybe 30 weight).


How much room can 6 videotapes take up in the moving van?
Why not just take them with you?
--


I've got an idea that would remove most of the political complaints
I have about the Clipper chip.  Pass a law stating that if, within a
year of performaing a wiretap on someone, a police agency hasn't
managed to convict the suspect of the crime the warrant/wiretap was for,
then that agency owes the suspect $1 million to repay him/her for
lost privacy.
   Of course, there are *still* problems with the technical aspects of
Clipper, and with the one-size-fits-all mentality that would be behind
an attempt to enforce it as a standard.  But this would be a way for
those in favor of allowing continued wiretaps to assure us that it will
only be used in cases where the crime is important and the police are
all but certain that there really will be a conviction....


I used to be on lopid.  It did a good job of reducing cholesterol (295
down to around 214), as well as LDL and triglycerides.  Then, I got
pneumonia, and for some reason, the Lopid stopped working very well;
cholesterol and triglycerides soared.  The levels might have stabilized
over time, but a new doctor had me quit, wait a month, then switch
to Mevicore.

On Mevicore, my total cholesterol was down to 207,  LDL was 108,
and HDL was 35; but the trig's were still
very high, around 318, and my liver tests came back slightly abnormal,
SGOT = 83 (N = 1-35),  GGTP(?hard to read copy) = 42 (N = 0 - 35).

He said the liver numbers were not offbase enough to cause him
concern, and the triglycerides are not as important as the cholesterol
figures.  He had me stop the Mevicore to allow the liver to heal ("Just
to be extra cautious, though I'm sure it's not a problem."),
and wants me to go back on it after that.  I suggested maybe Lopid might
be the better choice, and he said that he wouldn't object if that's what
I want to do.  But Lopid has one particular side effect I'm not fond of.


Go to hell. I'm no "government [-] following fanatic." Your sweeping
generalizations evince your own ignorance. What were they supposed to do?
Just let him be? Fuck him. Fuck the ATF, too. They should've done it right
the first time.


PC TOOLS 8.0

all original disk & manual
registration card included
disk size 3.5"
price $60 + shipping


I don't think we should draw borders around newsgroups, christians
are free to read and post entries on the atheist newsgroups, and
muslims are free to so so in other groups as well.

It's up to each individual to define their time schedule concerning
postings. The problems we all have noticed on various newsgroups
is the evangelistical method of telling that 'I am right, and you are
wrong'. This is true of both theists and atheists.

Hopefully a more constructive dialogue between the groups
would help concerning assumptions and colorization of views.

Cheers,
Kent


I recall reading a review article in PC Computing wherein they reported
a reduction in the loading time for lengthy programs using Stacker 3.0.
This was not due to the compression algorithm per se, but to the fact
that fewer fetches were required during the sequential file access. Does
anyone have any actual performance numbers relating to speeds of Stacker
and Dblspace?


        I would guess that they won't use Clipper at all.  What they will
do is use their STU-IIIs amoung themselves and the governmental agencies
they need to talk to, and ignore Clipper.  After all, if it's not secure
enough for the agency/department they are communicating with why should
the coprations trust it?


	Paul-

	You did a wonderful job of not doing anything humany possible to
offend us Catholics; hopefully I can be just as careful in my wording as you
were.
	I also don't want to extend this topic into an entire major issue of
debate (anymore than it already is), but just a note or two:

	1.  Please don't talk about Jesus' "parents"--the doctrinal positions
		of the church an unequivocally different regarding Mary and
		Joseph.  I (personally) have never heard of anything being
		attributed to St. Joseph other than his sainthood; that is,
		no reference *ever* to him being sinless, assumed into heaven,
		immaculately conceived, etc.--all these ideas apply only to
		Mary.

	2.  I would agree there is very little scriptural evidence for our
		doctrines about Mary.  Needless to say, that presents a
		significant problem to those who accept the bible as the only
		source of doctrine.  If, however, one turns to the sacred
		traditions of the undivided Christian Church, there is no
		problem finding plently of evidence that it was basically a
		unanimous belief among the apostles and all the early
		generation that Mary was assumed into heaven, body and soul,
		etc. etc.  It wasn't until the reformation that these doctrines
		were called into question.  As far as I am concerned (again, my
		personaly feelings) if it's a choice between the apostles or
		Luther, I'll choose the apostles every time, whether or not
		it is recorded within the writings that the traditions of men
		have determined to be "the bible".


From article <93859@hydra.gatech.EDU>, by gs26@prism.gatech.EDU (Glenn R. Stone):

I second that motion wholeheartedly.  Also, how about s**tcanning the
cigarette cops (a.k.a. as the ATF).  Comments anyone?

Scott Kennedy,  Brewer and Patriot


My friend has a Macintosh IIfx on which he is running System 6.0.7 (not enough
memory yet to run Sys7 adequately), and he noticed that when he tries to use
Multifinder on this machine, the machine will beep every few seconds
incessantly, nonstop.

Now, this friend has a tendency to "install" things on his machine rather
haphazardly, but he *did* rebuild his System from scratch and it still occurs.
Does this problem sound familiar at all to anyone?  For all I know the problem
is caused by something really obscure but if this is a known simple thing
(yeah, right...) that someone is familiar with (like "System 6.0.7 Multifinder
doesn't run on a Mac IIfx"), or if someone here knows what he should be looking
for, please send e-mail either to me or to him (smh@vaxf.acdnj.itt.com).
Thanx in advance.


I'm 99&44/100% positive that uwm isn't ICCCM compliant.  If you want it,
the R4 sources are still available on export.lcs.mit.edu (18.24.0.12)
in /pub/R4.

--


Recently I've come upon a body of literature which promotes colon
cleansing as a vital aid to preventive medicine through nutrition.  In
particular, Dr. Bernard Jenssen in his book "Colon Cleansing for
Health and Longevity" -- the title actually escapes me, but it is very
similar to that -- claims that regular self-administered colonics,
along with certain orally ingested "debris-loosening agents", boosts
the immune system to a significant degree.

He also plugs a unique appliance called the "Colema Board", which
facilitates the self-administration of colonics.  It sells for over
$100 from a California-based company.  He also plugs Vitra-Tox
products as his chemical agents of choice: these include volcanic ash,
supposedly for its electrical charge, and psyllium powder, for its
bulkiness.

If anyone knows anything about colon cleansing theory, its
particulars, or the Colema Board and related products, I'd be very
interested to hear about research and personal experience.

This article is crossposted to alt.magick as the issue touches upon
fasting and cleansing through a "ritual" system of purification.

-- Eli


No. All that I've seen have also an on-board BIOS which enables you to
use up to 2 hard drives directly under DOS (2 drives is a DOS
limitation and you have the same problem with IDE and all other
standards for that matter). Software drivers often allow for better
performance, though. You have to use them if you want to use other
devices besides hard disks or have more than 2 disks.

Obviously these are not able to use the 16-bit real mode BIOSes that
are written for DOS, so you need software drivers. That's not a big
deal (as long as the drivers are available), because you won't have to
fight with any low memory problems either.


Oboy, this is exciting. First you discuss your non-existent literature
tastes, then your fantasies, and now your choices of historical revisionism.
Are you related to 'Arromdians' of the ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism and
Revisionism Triangle?

The Agreement on the Exchange of Minorities uses the term 'Turks,'
which demonstrates what is actually meant by the previous reference
to 'Muslims.' The fact that the Greek governments also mention the
existence of a few thousand non-Turkish Muslims does not change the
essential reality that there lives in Western Thrace a much bigger
Turkish minority. The 'Pomaks' are also a Muslim people, whom all the
three nations (Bulgarians, Turks, and Greeks) consider as part of
themselves. Do you know how the Muslim Turkish minority was organized
according to the agreements?

It also proves that the Turkish people are trapped in Greece
and the Greek people are free to settle anywhere in the world.
The Greek authorities deny even the existence of a Turkish
minority. They pursue the same denial in connection with
the Macedonians of Greece. Talk about oppression. In addition,
in 1980 the 'democratic' Greek Parliament passed Law No. 1091,
virtually taking over the administration of the vakiflar and
other charitable trusts. They have ceased to be self-supporting
religious and cultural entities. Talk about fascism. The Greek
governments are attempting to appoint the muftus, irrespective
of the will of the Turkish minority, as state official. Although
the Orthodox Church has full authority in similar matters in
Greece, the Muslim Turkish minority will have no say in electing
its religious leaders. Talk about democracy.

The government of Greece has recently destroyed an Islamic
convention in Komotini. Such destruction, which reflects an
attitude against the Muslim Turkish cultural heritage, is a
violation of the Lausanne Convention as well as the 'so-called'
Greek Constitution, which is supposed to guarantee the protection
of historical monuments.

The government of Greece, on the other hand, is building new
churches in remote villages as a complementary step toward
Hellenizing the region.

The longstanding use of the adjective 'Turkish' in titles
and on signboards is prohibited. The Greek courts have
ordered the closure of the Turkish Teachers' Association,
the Komotini Turkish Youth Association and the Ksanti
Turkish Association on grounds that there are no Turks
in Western Thrace. Such community associations had been
active until 1984. But they were first told to remove
the word 'Turkish' on their buildings and on their official
papers and then eventually close down. This is also the
final verdict (November 4, 1987) of the Greek High Court.

Helsinki Watch, a well-known Human Rights group, had been investigating
the plight of the Turkish Minority in Greece. In August 1990, their
findings were published in a report titled

 'Destroying Ethnic Identity: Turks of Greece.'

The report confirmed gross violations of the Human Rights of the
Turkish minority by the Greek authorities. It says for instance,
the Greek government recently destroyed an Islamic convent in
Komotini. Such destruction, which reflects an attitude against
the Muslim Turkish cultural heritage, is a violation of the
Lausanne Convention.

HELSINKI WATCH: "PROBLEMS OF TURKS IN WESTERN THRACE CONTINUE"

Ankara (A.A)  In a 15-page report  of the "Helsinki Watch"  it is
stated that the Turkish minority in Western Thrace is still faced
with problems and stipulated that the discriminatory policy being
implemented by the Greek Government be brought to an end.

The report on Western Thrace emphasized that the Greek government
should grant  social and political  rights to all the  members of
minorities that are equal to  those enjoyed by Greek citizens and
in addition  they must  recognize the  existence of  the "Turkish
Minority" in Western Thrace and  grant them the right to identify
themselves as 'Turks'.

NEWSPOT, May 1992

GREECE ISOLATES WEST THRACE TURKS

The  Xanthi independent  MP Ahmet  Faikoglu said  that the  Greek
state is trying to cut all  contacts and relations of the Turkish
minority with Turkey.

Pointing out that while the  Greek minority living in Istanbul is
called "Greek"  by ethnic  definition, only  the religion  of the
minority in  Western Thrace is  considered. In an  interview with
Turkish origin. The individuals of the minority living in Western
Trace are also Turkish."

Emphasizing  the education  problem for  the Turkish  minority in
Western  Thrace  Faikoglu said  that  according  to an  agreement
signed in 1951 Greece must distribute textbooks printed in Turkey
in Turkish minority schools in Western Thrace.

Recalling his activities and those of Komotini independent MP Dr.
SadIk  Ahmet  to  defend  the rights  of  the  Turkish  minority,
Faikoglu said.  "In fact we  helped Greece. Because  we prevented
Greece, the cradle of democracy, from losing face before European
countries by forcing the Greek  government to recognize our legal
rights."

On Turco-Greek relations, he pointed  out that both countries are
predestined  to live  in  peace for  geographical and  historical
reasons and said  that Turkey and Greece must  resist the foreign
powers  who  are  trying  to   create  a  rift  between  them  by
cooperating, adding  that in  Turkey he  observed that  there was
will to improve relations with Greece.

NEWSPOT, January 1993

MACEDONIAN HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVISTS TO FACE TRIAL IN GREECE.

Two ethnic Macedonian  human rights activists will  face trial in
Athens for alleged crimes against the Greek state, according to a
Court Summons (No. 5445) obtained by MILS.

  Hristos  Sideropoulos and  Tashko Bulev  (or Anastasios  Bulis)
have been charged under Greek criminal law for making comments in
an Athenian magazine.

  Sideropoulos and  Bulev gave an  interview to the  Greek weekly
magazine  "ENA"  on  March  11,  1992,  and  said  that  they  as
Macedonians were  denied basic human  rights in Greece  and would
field  an ethnic  Macedonian  candidate for  the up-coming  Greek
general election.

  Bulev said in the interview: "I am not Greek, I am Macedonian."
Sideropoulos said  in the  article that "Greece  should recognise
Macedonia.  The  allegations  regarding  territorial  aspirations
against  Greece are  tales... We  are in  a panic  to secure  the
border, at  a time when the  borders and barriers within  the EEC
are falling."

  The  main  charge  against  the two,  according  to  the  court
summons,  was   that  "they  have   spread...intentionally  false
information  which  might  create   unrest  and  fear  among  the
citizens,  and  might affect  the  public  security or  harm  the
international interests of the country (Greece)."

  The  Greek  state  does  not   recognise  the  existence  of  a
Macedonian ethnicity. There are believed to be between 350,000 to
1,000,000  ethnic  Macedonians   living  within  Greece,  largely
concentrated in the north. It is  a crime against the Greek state
if anyone declares themselves Macedonian.

  In  1913  Greece,   Serbia-Yugoslavia  and  Bulgaria  partioned
Macedonia into three  pieces. In 1919 Albania  took 50 Macedonian
villages. The part under  Serbo-Yugoslav occupation broke away in
1991  as the  independent Republic  of Macedonia.  There are  1.5
million Macedonians in the Republic; 500,000 in Bulgaria; 150,000
in Albania; and 300,000 in Serbia proper.

  Sideropoulos  has been  a long  time campaigner  for Macedonian
human rights in  Greece, and lost his job as  a forestry worker a
few years ago.  He was even exiled to an  obscure Greek island in
the mediteranean. Only pressure from Amnesty International forced
the Greek government  to allow him to return to  his home town of
Florina (Lerin) in Northern  Greece (Aegean Macedonia), where the
majority of ethnic Macedonians live.

  Balkan watchers see the Sideropoulos  affair as a show trial in
which  Greece is  desperate to  clamp down  on internal  dissent,
especially  when it  comes to  the issue  of recognition  for its
northern neighbour, the Republic of Macedonia.

  Last year the  State Department of the  United States condemned
Greece for its bad treatment of ethnic Macedonians and Turks (who
largely live in Western Thrace). But it remains to be seen if the
US government  will do anything until  the Presidential elections
are over.

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: I heard on the radio today about a Christian student conference where
: Christians were called to "repent" of America's "national" sins, such
: as sexual promiscuity.
:
: To which I reply: ...whoa there!
:
: How can I repent of _someone else's_ sin?   I can't.
:
: And when I claim to "repent" of someone else's sin, am I not in fact
: _judging_ him?  Jesus equipped us to judge activities but warned us
: not to judge people. "Judge not that ye be not judged."
:
: C. S. Lewis made the same point in an essay after World War II,
: when some Christian leaders in Britain were urging "national repentance"
: for the horrors (sins???) of World War II.
: --

I see your point, but I cannot more strongly disagree.

To repent means to turn around.  We, as a nation, have behaved incredibly
arrogantly toward God condoning, encouraging, and even forcing folks to
participate in activity directly opposed to the written Word of God.  We
have arrogantly set our nation far above the God who created it and allowed
us the luxury of living in this land.  We have set a bad example for other
nations.  We've slaughtered unborn children by the millions.  We have
stricken the name of God from the classroom.  We've cheated God out of the
honor due Him at every turn, and we owe God an apology every bit as public
as our sins have been.

When Jesus said "Judge not that ye be not judged", he was not addressing
those like John the Baptist who had repented and were calling others to
repent.  He was addressing those who remained in sin while heaping down
condemnation on others for their sins.  His message to us all was to remove
the log from our own eye before removing the speck from our brother's.  But
He also said to rebuke and to reprove.  Don't forget that this is a command
too.

Our problem today is that we tend to judge and condemn as though we were
rebuking and we tend to neglect bringing folks back to the Lord with the
excuse that we don't want to judge anyone.

In truth, what we need to do is to judge less and call others to repent more
and to be able to distinguish between the two in our own motives.  Call sin
what it is and do so openly.  Let it's charge fall correctly where it should.
But instead of running someone into hell over it, pull them out of their
hellward path and onto the heavenward path.

--
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	"I deplore the horrible crime of child murder...
	 We want prevention, not merely punishment.
	 We must reach the root of the evil...
	 It is practiced by those whose inmost souls revolt
	 from the dreadful deed...
	 No mater what the motive, love of ease,
		or a desire to save from suffering the unborn innocent,
		the woman is awfully guilty who commits the deed...
	 but oh! thrice guilty is he who drove her
		to the desperation which impelled her to the crime."


Given that all the source code contains explicit permission to use or
modify the code without fee in addition to the shareware notice, I would
say that the shareware notice is unenforceable.  All you need to do is
make minor changes to create a derivative work which is explicitly allowed
under the first part of the copyright notice.  Of course, this would be
circumventing the author's wishes on the subject, but I'd say if you're
not going to pay him no matter what, you'd be on relatively safe ground
with that approach...  In fact, given the internal contradictions of the
copyright notices, I'd guess none of it could ever be enforced, but not being
a lawyer, I can't be positive.

Regardless, the fees he's asking are not excessive, and I would encourage
anyone who wants to use the program to pay them if at all possible.  Even
though it is unlikely that you have actual legal obligations to pay the
author, it would be reasonable to do so, to support his efforts if nothing
else.

- Brad


	Typical (in the old 2x-oversampling units) was a thirteen-tap
FIR, implemented as a dedicated hardware addition circuit.  At this kind
of speed (slow, by digital standards) such an adder is much less
expensive than analog components of comparable precision.

	I gleaned this information from a hardware manual for
an old CD player design; where one would find similar info for
a particular CD (the digital filter IS an interesting component,
from my point of view), I have no idea.  The digital filter
is a kind of interpolation scheme (read a book on numerical
analysis, to see just how BROAD the term 'interpolation' is...),


Saw it in t.p.m., thanks.

Yes, and the individual is not omitted; I just didn't fully articulate the
principles of Fractal Federalism.  All government powers derive from the
People; each level can receive a new power from the level below through
the amendment process, where a true consensus (say a 3/4 majority) writes
that power into the Constitution of the level above (in the case of the
lowest level, an amendement is passed by a 3/4 majority vote; in the case
of higher levels, it must be passed by 3/4 of the legislatures.  We can
of course haggle about the specifics of "true consensus" when we hold our
Constitutional Convention :-).  Once a power has been granted, it may be
exercised by the legislature.  Powers not in the original Constitutions must
percolate upward, starting from the individual.  The ratification process
for the original Constitutions should involve consensus and not simply a
plurality or majority.

Granting a "right" in a constitution is of course the same as empowering
the government at that level to restrict the activities of the governments
at the lower levels, so it operates in the same way as the amendment process
(again, that crazy resemblance to the supposed-but-not-actual U.S. government
structure).

This government structure is a very frustrating one for those people (read-
"liberals") who would like to have concentrated power to use the government
to force people to do "good" (a difficult-to-define word, and one that it
is difficult to reach a consensus on).  It is also a frustrating structure
for those who want to use the government to dictate personal behavior (read-
"big-government conservatives").  I personally would rather see those types
of people frustrated than the incredible erosion of liberty (both civil and
economic) that is going on now.

This is IMHO a "good" government stucture for those who see the role of
government as the protection of individual liberties, while still recognizing
that individuals need to have some influence in the type of community that
they live in.

One which maintains peace, liberty, and the opportunity for happiness for its
people, while working within the realities of human nature.  You do bring
up the point (intentional or not) that a "lasting" idea is by no means
necessarily a "successful" idea.  I believe that Fractal Federalism would
at least bring many ideas to light, and The People would have the opportunity
to democratically choose between "good" ideas and "bad" ideas.  If the
Docialists, er, I mean Democrats are right and government activism fosters a
prosperous People, they will have a plethora of local opportunities to
check their thesis.  If Libertopia is possible, it will arise.  If a balanced
Conservative Republic is democratically received as the best level of
government activity, it will become clear to The People that it is best.

Right, and people would not rescind any freedoms (read- "empower the
government") except through the amendment process.  That is how the Federal
Government is supposed to work now, but the Supreme Soviet, er, I mean the
Supreme Court put a stop to that "republican government" nonsense.

In my hypothetical government, if there were a constitutional provision
empowering the government to regulate churches the government (whatever
level we are talking about) could indeed ban churches.  The constitutional
provision would be invalid if a higher level had a constitutional provision
protecting free exercise of religion.  The uppermost Constitution is still
the Supreme Law of the Land.

It is a matter of individuals being able to control their own associations
and environment, not a matter of suppression of ideas.

One dilemma of the human condition is that individuals need liberty, and
they also need to have some control over their environment.  In my
"Fractal Federalism" government, certain "rights" are protected by the
constitutions.  Other "rights" are protected simply because the government
has not been empowered to infringe upon them.  When a consensus is reached
that the government should have a certain power, then freedom is infringed
upon.  This cannot be avoided -- murder statutes infringe upon freedom,
but I think that the consensus of the American people is that murder statutes
are a good idea.

I am sure that many parents believe that they have a "right" to control
the environment that their children live in.  People feel that they have
a "right" to sleep peacefully at night; thus, there are noise ordinances.
There are zoning laws that keep businesses from overrunning residential
neighborhoods.  I do not view these as bad things (certainly some individual
instances are bad, but the concept is not necessarily bad), I view them
as the people in a community having some control over the type of community
that they live in.  I see the alternative as near anarchy.

Like I said in another post, if you can come up with a scenario where an
individual can do something truly autonomously -- with absolutely zero
effect on anyone else -- then no individual or government has the right
to restrict that activity.  There are simply not very many behaviors that
fit into the category of the truly autonomous, so the whole thing becomes
an issue of one individual or group having power over another individual
or group.  I think that the "Fractal Federalism" approach is a sound, if
not ideal, approach to limiting this restrictive power.  The libertarian
scenario degenerates to "might makes right," and the system we have right
now is one of "lawyers abusing natural rights philosophy to decide what
powers the government should have by subverting the democratic process
though the Supreme Court."

I think I answered this above already, but let me expand a little more
with an example.  If I stand naked in front of your house and masturbate
in front of your children while they play, in your libertarian (small 'l')
scenario the only recourse you have is to yell at me.  "Autonomous" is
a value judgement 99.99% of the time, it is not a scientific reality with
a clear definition.  Exactly who would you empower to make that value
judgement?

Lots of people are long on complaints and short on practical solutions.
Although I am pessimistic that my idea will ever bear fruit, I am at least
trying to be long on solutions also.  I am truly interested if you have
any improvements to make on my ideas (I call them "my ideas", but they
all come from an "average guy" reading of the U.S. Constitution without
benefit of the indoctrination of Constitutional Law academia).

Sorry, the confusion was my fault.  When I said that "Fractal Federalism"
resembles the U.S. constitution, I meant it and thought it was pretty clear.
I should have more clearly explained that the ultimate derivation of government
power is from the CONSENSUS of the people (although not the CONSENT of every
individual; a practical observation, not a moral judgement).  It is certainly
better than having all government power derive from nine lawyers, which is the
situation we have now.  That is why I think the Supreme Court should be
a jury court, with a different jury for each case.

It is certainly not perfect (no philosophy of government is), but do you still
find it a repugnant idea?  If so, what is your solution?

I think that you misunderstood the structure of the form of government I
advocate, and it was my fault for not being more clear.

The majority does not make the rules.  The majority (or possibly a
plurality) simply elects representatives to exercise limited government
powers; those limited government powers derive from a large consensus,
not a simple majority.  And the Federal Government, in my scenario, still
has the power to protect freedoms.

Matt Freivald

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Does anyone know what the differences are between the Stylewriter
and the Stylewriter II?

Please respond via e-mail to:

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Thanks.

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     I think it's known, but it's neat.

     Can it be extended to 3D?


Does anyone know where I can get some voice synthesis chips??
I am looking for something like the ones that do the time and date
stamp on answering machines.


: >Prove it. I have a source that says that to date, the civilian death count
: >(er, excuse me, I mean "collateral damage") is about 200,000.
:
: I have _never_ seen any source that was claiming such a figure.  Please
: post the source so its reliability can be judged.

This figure would not simply be deaths by bombing, but also death later
from disease (the sewer system of Baghdad was deliberately targeted) and
starvation. I believe (but when I get a copy of the latest research in
June or July) that this was the figure proposed in the Census Bureau
report on the matter. The report was suppressed and the CB attempted to
sack the author of the report, but failed due to procedural technicality.
The author is now on permanent leave.


And this search procedure must also follow the rule of law.

It may, if necessary, when the search is executed in an illegal and
violent fashion.

These "criminals" were threatening the lives of NO ONE -- they were fired
on FIRST, according to a number of accounts.

Wrong.  Firing a gun at someone is lethal force, even if no one is hit.
Of course, they DID hit AND kill people.

You are silly.  There are no such warrants in existence, Phill.

Thanks, Phill, for another example of that great socialist sensitivity.
"Obey the government or die."

*PLONK*
--


. . . David gives good explaination of the deductions from the isotropic,
'edged' distribution, to whit, they are either part of the Universe or
part of the Oort cloud.

Why couldn't they be Earth centred, with the edge occuring at the edge
of the gravisphere? I know there isn't any mechanism for them, but there
isn't a mechanism for the others either.


Within a few months, I'll be looking for a job in 3d computer graphics
software.  I'm in need of info on companies that do it.  There's nothing
in any of the FAQ's for this group, and nothing at siggraph.org (at least
I couldn't find anything.)  The last Computer Graphics Career Handbook was
dated 1991, had info on 40 companies, but nothing specific on any of them.

Can people please direct me towards more current and detailed sources of
information?  I'll post a summary of sources if there's interest.

Also, could you please e-mail me, our news server is on the fritz. :(

Thanks,
Brandon


I was curious as to what people thought of the VW Corrado VR6?
That's about it...


The disease you are talking about is toxoplasmosis.  It is a protozoan that
lives and multiplies within cells.  In cats, the protozoan multiplies in the
intestinal cells and eggs are shed in the cat's feces.  The protozoa can
cross the placenta to infect the fetus.  The disease may be asymptomatic
after the baby is born, or it may be very severe.  Toxo may cause blindness
and mental retardation.

Having a cat in the same apartment should not be a problem; however, pregnant
women should not scoop or change the cat's litterbox.  In addition, whoever
does empty the litterbox should thoroughly wash his/her hands before handling
anything else, especially food.

Information came from _The Merck Manual, 15th Ed._

I hope this information is helpful to you.


Israeli nationalism (also known as Zionism) is the nationalism of the
Jewish people.  The Jewish people are not a new phenomenon at all.

Palestinean nationalism is the nationalism of Arab people.  Arabs have
been around for a long time.  They already  have some 2 dozen states,
large and small, covering 98% of the Middle East.

More specifically, Palestinean nationalism is the nationalism of Arabs
from the region of Palestine, just as Egyptian nationalism is the
nationalism of Arabs from the region of Egypt.  One Palestinean state
already exists in what was once known as Palestine: - it is called
Jordan.

There is no justification in carving out a second and tiny Palestinean
state out of the only Jewish state, itself very, very small, just as
there is no justification in carving out another American state out of
Mexico.


In the Dallas area, I just bought a can (it's for my best friend's bike... a
1986 XLH883, mines got a belt hahahahaha!!!) for $6.79 ($7.35 with tax) at
Bates Discount Cycle Parts on the southbound I-35E service road in Farmers
Branch just a couple miles north of the I-635/I-35E interchange. They have
about a dozen cans left.


Tim> NNTP-Posting-Host: nwfocus.wa.com

Tim> I saw the film on CNN *as* it happend. It was clear from that
Tim> tape that the fire started in ONE location. Right where the
Tim> tank was attacking, and then had pulled back. There were not
Tim> several spots where the fire started, it started in one
Tim> location and was spread in the direction of the heavy wind.
Tim> The FBI claims to have seen or filmed several starting
Tim> points. Yet they keep this hidden. They have spread so much
Tim> lies. Well I guess if I was responsible for the mass murder
Tim> of 80 people who were exercising constitutional rights, I
Tim> would lie about it too...

Gosh, Tim, you must have seen a different live broadcast than I did. While
the smoke did emerge from one place initially, it was a considerable
distance from the tank, and in a very short time, fire appeared at several
places a good distance apart from there.

Then there's that nagging question about why, out of all those people,
only a few made any attempts to escape or save the children. If it were
me, with my child, [and I wasn't committing suicide,] I believe I would have
made SOME attempt to at least save the child. As it was, at least one of
the survivors was attempting to GO BACK INTO THE FIRE when they were
physically removed. No one lifted a finger to bring out a child, apparently.

How do you explain that? And the two survivors who claimed to have doused
the place with lantern oil and SET the fire (no doubt on David's orders).
[At least until the lawyers talked to them.]

Tim> And also, why have they not yet released the search warrant????

That *is* a good question. Maybe because it would be a further
embarrassment, seeing as how the ATF went in there in Dirty Harry mode
initially.

As stupidly as it all was handled, I find it difficult to believe that the
entire FBI has completely gone corrupt under a new administration less
than 100 days old. Stupidity and bad decisions and plans have always been
with us. They just had an alignment at Waco.

Tim> Seeeeee Ya  turmoil@halcyon.com   FUCK THE POLICE!!!!

See? Freedom of speech abounds.

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What can people tell me about apple's new keyboard, the one that is designed
to be more ergonomically friendly? I have begun to experience wrist and hand
pains using a standard keyboard, and using a powerbook. What can people with
similar experiences tell me? Replies to email please. Paul G.


You don't mention your platform but Digital has a custom widget, NetEd,
which does exactly what you want to do. Cost is nominal 300 or so - call your
local office.  The widget is supported on a variety of platforms and I heard
rumblings of porting to Sun, etc. so it may be worth the check.


Well, no, during the original deployment mission the HST aperture door was
not opened until after the Shuttle had landed.

I presume that during a re-boost mission HST would be berthed in the orbiter
with the orbiter bay doors shut; but still there would be lots of contamination
worries.  I understand that the EVA suits are one of the hardest things to
keep clean.

But I still don't know where the idea is coming from that HST _NEEDS_ a
re-boost.  We have many problems but our orbit is the least of them.  There
is certainly no plan to change the orbit in the first servicing mission in
December.


My CB750 does it too.  The "Switch Continuity" section of the wiring diagram
looks something like this:

	HL L  H
        x--x     Low
        x--x--x  (N)
        x-----x  High

Dean


In God,
	whose word I praise,
	in God I trust;
	I will not be afraid.
	What can mortal man do to me?


 > Can't someone describe someone's trinity in simple declarative
 > sentences that have common meaning?

I offer him four attempts.

First is an essay by me (largely indebted to Attempts Two and
Three), obtainable by sending the message GET TRINITY ANALOGY to
LISTSERV@ASUACAD.BITNET or to LISTSERV@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU

Second is a couple of books by Dorothy L Sayers: a play called THE
ZEAL OF THY HOUSE, and a non-fiction book called THE MIND OF THE
MAKER.  The play can be found in the book FOUR SACRED PLAYS, and
also in various other collections, including one called RELIGIOUS
DRAMA (Meridian Books) and one called BEST PLAYS OF 1937.

Third is the book MERE CHRISTIANITY by C S Lewis, particularly the
last section, called "Beyond Personality".

Fourth is a book called THEOLOGY FOR BEGINNERS, by the Roman
Catholic writer Frank Sheed. I will say that I do not find Sheed's
approach altogether satisfying, but I know some persons whose minds
I respect who do.


I have the same problem with a Diamond Stealth VRAM card.
Daniel> .


Hello,

	Does anyone know of an image format conversion tool that will convert a
raw (8 bit grey scale) image to Gif or Tif format.  It would be great if the tool
ran on a PC, was a Windows application, and supported other formats, but I'll be
happy with anything that works.

		Attn: Code L10MP   Robert LaFollette
		Dahlgren Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center
		Dahlgren, VA 22448-5000


It's not a question just of who is holding the phone.  It's a question of
what circuit to wiretap in the first place.  If two drug dealers are both
using stolen cellular phones, the FBI doesn't know which lines to tap
-- unless of course they're tapping *all* phones (maybe *all* cellular
phones).  If they haven't tapped the connection (ie., at least one end of
the connection) then they don't know what key to request.